.  Logged  Do not be cast down over the struggle - the Lord loves a brave warrior. The Lord loves the soul that is valiant.  Um... Scripture doesn't say that they didn't include children, so we exercise common sense in assuming that they did. You know, like most normal households, since there's no sign they weren't normal households.  yes, you base doctrine on an assumption. The idea that babies DECIDE to enter into a relationship with Christ is far removed from "common sense"  Quote  But obviously common sense is extra-scriptural as well. Learn something new every day. Carry on.  "there is a way that seemeth right to a man" etc. You are called to subject common sense to Jesus.  There does not exist one definition of common sense. What is reasonable to one person may be nonsense to another.  try, 'that which is rational', as in, is it rational to assume the Church goes straight up and straight back down when Revelation tells us it's already in heaven?!!!!!!!  Um... Scripture doesn't say that they didn't include children, so we exercise common sense in assuming that they did. You know, like most normal households, since there's no sign they weren't normal households.  yes, you base doctrine on an assumption. The idea that babies DECIDE to enter into a relationship with Christ is far removed from "common sense"  Quote  But obviously common sense is extra-scriptural as well. Learn something new every day. Carry on.  "there is a way that seemeth right to a man" etc. You are called to subject common sense to Jesus.  There does not exist one definition of common sense. What is reasonable to one person may be nonsense to another.  try, 'that which is rational', as in, is it rational to assume the Church goes straight up and straight back down when Revelation tells us it's already in heaven?!!!!!!!  