Ben was saddled with complete shit for pass pro the entire first half of his career. Mediocre OC's his entire career.  What could have been....In 00+ years the only QB I've seen with more talent and ability is Aaron Rodgers. Fuck Tom Brady - if he doesn't play for NE I guarantee he isn't in this conversation. But Peyton is an interesting discussion.  Ben was saddled with complete shit for pass pro the entire first half of his career. Mediocre OC's his entire career.  What could have been....In 00+ years the only QB I've seen with more talent and ability is Aaron Rodgers. Fuck Tom Brady - if he doesn't play for NE I guarantee he isn't in this conversation. But Peyton is an interesting discussion.  Dan Marino remains criminally underrated. I might be inclined to add an Elway or a Steve Young in there, as well. Machine Gun Kelly could definitely sling it, as well. Brett Favre in his prime also did not suck, but I take your point.  Ben was saddled with complete shit for pass pro the entire first half of his career. Mediocre OC's his entire career.  What could have been....In 00+ years the only QB I've seen with more talent and ability is Aaron Rodgers. Fuck Tom Brady - if he doesn't play for NE I guarantee he isn't in this conversation. But Peyton is an interesting discussion.  Dan Marino remains criminally underrated. I might be inclined to add an Elway or a Steve Young in there, as well. Machine Gun Kelly could definitely sling it, as well. Brett Favre in his prime also did not suck, but I take your point.  Marino only really had 0-0 great years- he was solid in most years but he never quite reached the heights of year 0.. His year 0 is either the greatest or second greatest regular season a QB has ever had in the history of the league... but he had some really mediocre years in between year 0 and his later-career resurgence.  