.  _________________"Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." -Anonymous  I think that most athiests would really be agnostics if they thought about it. Athiesm is illogical. You can't know that something doesn't exists - unless, of course, you know everything. The most that you can say is that, to your knowledge, you have encountered no evidence of God's existence. It's like saying that there are no aliens. Unless you're omnicient, you can't prove that there aren't aliens.  _________________"Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." -Anonymous  Paganism and athiesm both share the concept of unacountability. Without an omnipotent, omnicient God, there is no absolute morality, therefore everything is permissible.  I think I've already explained to you that it's quite possible to decide how good or bad something is without appeals to an ancient book. I agree that it is not possible to say that something is absolutely forbidden based on this, but to draw from that the conclusion that therefore everything is permissible is of course rediculous. 