I didn't expect to start an argument between a canary and a bee! Thanks for your advice, guys. I agree with your comments about Accor group hotels - I've tried 'em all. Pretty good value at the lower end, but soulless and sterile. Logis de France usually have a bit of local character. There's a Best Western in Vichy which we may try if we stay there. Tim  TimK wrote:I didn't expect to start an argument between a canary and a bee! Thanks for your advice, guys. I agree with your comments about Accor group hotels - I've tried 'em all. Pretty good value at the lower end, but soulless and sterile. Logis de France usually have a bit of local character. There's a Best Western in Vichy which we may try if we stay there. Tim  TimK wrote:Can anyone recommend Vichy as a good place to stay for a night or two on the long journey down to the PO? We often stop in Chartres, but like to try out different places too.