.  (00-00-0000, 00:00 AM)Gippy Wrote: I think that its pretty interesting too that the only people arguing for trump in this thread are a guy who loves to argue just to argue and is good at it, and a Canadian village idiot.  I'm not really arguing for Trump. I'm arguing against emo.  What nice white privilege you have.  I'm sure that's intended as a sick burn, but perhaps you can help me understand what you mean. Am I supposed to live each day lamenting how I was born? Or should I wrestle with daily guilt as I drive to work? Or is it something else?  Also, just curious: do you suppose that the message of "white privilege" is somewhat diluted when it comes from a well-to-do white woman living in the most expensive city in the country?  Finally, when folks criticized President Obama for not pledging allegiance to the flag, was that his white privilege, or the complainers'?  Any clarity you can provide is appreciated.  No, I didn't mean it as a sick burn. Am I being pointed? Of course. No more than you are. But I do hope my comment will prompt you to consider that suggesting people who are scared of Trump (and everything that comes with him/his presidency) are just being "emo" is really dismissive and insulting. As the saying goes, privilege is when you don't consider something a problem because it's not a problem to you personally. Those who are protesting, who are demanding action from Congress, who are donating their time and dollars to organizations that fight for our rights...they want to send a clear message that we can't normalize Trump's comments and actions. Now Trump's people are talking about internment camps, but those who are upset/ protesting are just emo? Really?  (00-00-0000, 00:00 AM)Gippy Wrote: I think that its pretty interesting too that the only people arguing for trump in this thread are a guy who loves to argue just to argue and is good at it, and a Canadian village idiot.  I'm not really arguing for Trump. I'm arguing against emo.  What nice white privilege you have.  I'm sure that's intended as a sick burn, but perhaps you can help me understand what you mean. Am I supposed to live each day lamenting how I was born? Or should I wrestle with daily guilt as I drive to work? Or is it something else?  Also, just curious: do you suppose that the message of "white privilege" is somewhat diluted when it comes from a well-to-do white woman living in the most expensive city in the country?  Finally, when folks criticized President Obama for not pledging allegiance to the flag, was that his white privilege, or the complainers'?  Any clarity you can provide is appreciated.  No, I didn't mean it as a sick burn. Am I being pointed? Of course. No more than you are. But I do hope my comment will prompt you to consider that suggesting people who are scared of Trump (and everything that comes with him/his presidency) are just being "emo" is really dismissive and insulting. As the saying goes, privilege is when you don't consider something a problem because it's not a problem to you personally. Those who are protesting, who are demanding action from Congress, who are donating their time and dollars to organizations that fight for our rights...they want to send a clear message that we can't normalize Trump's comments and actions. Now Trump's people are talking about internment camps, but those who are upset/ protesting are just emo? Really?  Ah, so not white privilege, just privilege. That makes more sense. Like equal ambivalence to big two party candidates privilege. They're all turds, and as discussed earlier in this thread, I can't stop people from voting for them anyway, so I do choose to make it not a problem for me. Got it. Yeah, I have that.  And along with that comes the emo thing. Yes, most of the protesters are just being emo. What are they protesting? Hell if I know. It looks like they're off occupying Wall Street again until their... demands are me-- er-- well, until the momentum ends.  And the complainers. Sure, go nuts.  Trump wants to violate the constitution. You know that. He wants to "open up" "federal" libel laws. OK. You know why I don't care? Because he can't. He'd need a majority in Congress to amend the Constitution.  Your Democrat buddies in Congress (indeed my very own representatives) are complaining that Trump isn't keeping his promises and draining the swamp. #0: The members of congress who are speaking about it are the object of the drainage in the first place; #0: Do they really want Trump to hold up to his promises? #0: Emo.  I won't get in your way from being upset, just remember that to some of us it looks an awful lot like this:  "Barack Obama's friend tried to kill my family" was how a McCain press release last week packaged the remembrance of a Weather Underground incident from 0000  -  when Obama was 0.http://www.nytimes.com/0000/00/00/opinion/00rich.html  (00-00-0000, 00:00 AM)Gippy Wrote: I think that its pretty interesting too that the only people arguing for trump in this thread are a guy who loves to argue just to argue and is good at it, and a Canadian village idiot.  I'm not really arguing for Trump. I'm arguing against emo.  What nice white privilege you have.  I'm sure that's intended as a sick burn, but perhaps you can help me understand what you mean. Am I supposed to live each day lamenting how I was born? Or should I wrestle with daily guilt as I drive to work? Or is it something else?  Also, just curious: do you suppose that the message of "white privilege" is somewhat diluted when it comes from a well-to-do white woman living in the most expensive city in the country?  Finally, when folks criticized President Obama for not pledging allegiance to the flag, was that his white privilege, or the complainers'?  Any clarity you can provide is appreciated.  No, I didn't mean it as a sick burn. Am I being pointed? Of course. No more than you are. But I do hope my comment will prompt you to consider that suggesting people who are scared of Trump (and everything that comes with him/his presidency) are just being "emo" is really dismissive and insulting. As the saying goes, privilege is when you don't consider something a problem because it's not a problem to you personally. Those who are protesting, who are demanding action from Congress, who are donating their time and dollars to organizations that fight for our rights...they want to send a clear message that we can't normalize Trump's comments and actions. Now Trump's people are talking about internment camps, but those who are upset/ protesting are just emo? Really?  Ah, so not white privilege, just privilege. That makes more sense. Like equal ambivalence to big two party candidates privilege. They're all turds, and as discussed earlier in this thread, I can't stop people from voting for them anyway, so I do choose to make it not a problem for me. Got it. Yeah, I have that.  And along with that comes the emo thing. Yes, most of the protesters are just being emo. What are they protesting? Hell if I know. It looks like they're off occupying Wall Street again until their... demands are me-- er-- well, until the momentum ends.  And the complainers. Sure, go nuts.  Trump wants to violate the constitution. You know that. He wants to "open up" "federal" libel laws. OK. You know why I don't care? Because he can't. He'd need a majority in Congress to amend the Constitution.  Your Democrat buddies in Congress (indeed my very own representatives) are complaining that Trump isn't keeping his promises and draining the swamp. #0: The members of congress who are speaking about it are the object of the drainage in the first place; #0: Do they really want Trump to hold up to his promises? #0: Emo.  I won't get in your way from being upset, just remember that to some of us it looks an awful lot like this:  "Barack Obama's friend tried to kill my family" was how a McCain press release last week packaged the remembrance of a Weather Underground incident from 0000  -  when Obama was 0.http://www.nytimes.com/0000/00/00/opinion/00rich.html  