Let's say everyone who's ever been called Black just embraces it, or at least doesn't make a big deal of it... it would completely take the sting out of supposedly being an insult

You're speaking with an AA biased mindset.  I didn't identify as black when growing up.  Not because of anything negative, but because that term was not used around me when growing up.  You don't understand so I won't try to expect you to. 

i can understand it denying blackness with light hispanics who are clearly mixed because they may have been mixed for generations and have no black face to point to in there family tree.  i get that and i dont even refer to them as black.  im talking about these folks who are visibly unmistakably black. 

Most of these people are too slow to realize that if they embraced Blackness that they could flip their reality on it's side

Like I said, denying blackness depending on the reason can be justified. 

In certain contexts yes.  My parents never called me black nor anybody around us.  They just said, "This person is from this state or from that state" or " this person is from this ethnic group".  I was really sheltered btw and black wasn't a term used around me.  It just wasn't.  Call me a liar or whatever but this was my experience. 

It's hard to come to another country and have someone tell you WHAT you are...You are born Columbian , raised Columbian and come to the US and now you are black y nada mas ... there is nothing wrong with being black but what about their Columbian identity.... that is alot of Afro Latinos struggle imo and some are just straight coons too...

i can understand it denying blackness with light hispanics who are clearly mixed because they may have been mixed for generations and have no black face to point to in there family tree.  i get that and i dont even refer to them as black.  im talking about these folks who are visibly unmistakably black. 

When a Hispanic says their not black it's different from when an African says they are not black. 

Hispanics deny there African heritage, Africans deny being AA.  There is a difference. 

I am speaking in regards to countries where that label is used (of the Diaspora mainly)

There are many countries where plenty people of African descent do not identify with the label "Black" and I still find it counterproductive (and not in an American way)

f8dagrate wrote:

Alias_Avi wrote:

Even when it's "justified" it's still counterproductive

Let's say everyone who's ever been called Black just embraces it, or at least doesn't make a big deal of it... it would completely take the sting out of supposedly being an insult

You're speaking with an AA biased mindset.  I didn't identify as black when growing up.  Not because of anything negative, but because that term was not used around me when growing up.  You don't understand so I won't try to expect you to. 

i can understand it denying blackness with light hispanics who are clearly mixed because they may have been mixed for generations and have no black face to point to in there family tree.  i get that and i dont even refer to them as black.  im talking about these folks who are visibly unmistakably black. 

When a Hispanic says their not black it's different from when an African says they are not black. 

Hispanics deny there African heritage, Africans deny being AA.  There is a difference. 

im talking about people denying their african heritage not claiming AA. 

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