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Obama's goal: Creating jobs, putting GOP on spot I guess putting the GOP is placing country about politics?

Whose side are you on? Rosemont is Canadian mine using American soil to get copper for Asia. You are supporting giving away America's precious resources to foreigners for free.

Isn't it great that the loony left get that warm fuzzy feeling about some 90 year old commie dirt bag. This guy used to scream how great the Soviets were, lead demonstration to spit on returning GI's during Vietnam, and now when senility has taken a firm hold, he shows up at the useless Occupy Something. What a waste of musical talent ...

True and Good Advice: "His advice: If you're a regular Glenn Beck listener, then check out the Huffington Post sometimes. If you read The New York Times editorial page the morning, then glance every now and then at The Wall Street Journal. "It may make your blood boil. Your mind may not be changed. But the practice of listening to opposing views is essential for effective citizenship," he said."

Your prejudices are showing. Did it remind you of that when Bush did the same thing? Clinton? Bush 1? Reagan?

On behalf of conservatives, George Will, in his inimitable way, is asking, "Where's the beef?" The Romney campaign needs to get ahead of this sentiment. In 1984, Democrat Walter Mondale effectively attacked the campaign of rival Gary Hart by persistently asking him to answer the same question. If Mr. Romney intends to be a presidential nominee that can decisively take on Obama in the general election campaign, he better act to convince the conservative wing of the GOP that he is not what Mr. Will opines that he is and hope that such a perspective growing within the ranks doesn't foster some kind of other-side-of-the-aisle, parallel-to-1984, deja-vu-all-over-again.

Wrong talking point ... Please keep up. That one was for the "Grand Bargain" negotiations; this bill actually is a bill ... written down and everything.

According to Obamacare, they are still children able to ride on their parents' health insurance ... while living in the basement.

Workers would pay an affordable monthly premium during their careers and could collect a modest daily cash benefit of at least $50 if they became disabled later in life. Sounds just as sustainable as Social Security. You pay in over a forty year work life and if you live long enough you might get enough to buy cat food back.

LOL yeah if you consider rewarding HARD WORK, and good ETHICS hindering equal opportunity, then yes. Those whiners crying eat the rich have no idea how hard some of the rich worked to get there! No, the whiners cry foul when REAL Americans work hard and EARN what they have. Actually quite disgusting, just like the parks after the hippies all leave! I am in no way shape or form rich, BUT I have WORKED all my life and EARNED everything that I have. I had one idiot tell me the other day I was lucky to have a job. I laughed in his face and told him it was not luck, but good planning and RESPONSIBILITY on my part. I then pointed the idiot to the McDonalds we both were standing near that had a now hiring sign in the window. The idiot tells me he couldn't work there because he would lose his welfare! I laughed at him again and called him a loser and went on my way! To think I am paying for this loser! End welfare now! Get these disgusting drug addicted baby making wretches out of my pocket! Keep it for the LEGIT disabled!

I sure enjoy your stories Doug. Thanks.

Blah, blah, blah....right dude he's a Latino and brown so he's against the mine 'cause brown illegals won't get hired....such incredible logic.

I say that the ones who don't want the 1% to pay their share should [be made to] pay Rule from the barrel of a gun much? That's always worked out so well ...

I was fingerprinted when I applied for my Concealed Weapons Permit. My wife was fingerprinted for her Pharmacist's Assistant's License. What's the big deal?

Good health care costs money. Some of our most-capable people go into health care, and they deserve to be very well compensated for their hard-earned skills. The equipment that they use is complex and very expensive too. Self-responsibility has a role here. Walmart cannot keep its low prices and pay all its employees' health costs.

It didn't have to be a Prius or a Leaf. I got rid of a 2006 Mazda 6 three weeks earlier. Had I still been driving my Mazda, myself and my passenger likely would have been taken to the hospital in an ambulance.

had they obtained a 'waiver' prior to the demonstration, then I'd say, they are camped for the future till they feel like moving, or the permit expires. At this point its to late ; Solution - turn on the sprinkers and leave them on.

In a different time what OWS calls Greed used to be called Success. I guess that the formula for Greed is to take Unsuccess and add Envy to yield Greed. We used to examine ourselves and blame only ourselves for our lack of success to whatever degree. Now those who choose can cloak themselves in righteousness and congratulate themselves for their morally superior lack of Greed. There are no failures, only victims, and a handy scapegoat to redirect our anger. Really? Corporations that profit by offering a superior product or service are Greedy and those that go bankrupt are morally superior? By this reasoning America is truly doomed.

Once elected the number one goal is to be re-elected. Period. What's the easiest way to get re-elected? You buy votes. I can't stand outside the poll and hand out twenty dollar bills but I can give your business a tax break, an exclusive contract, a subsidy ... I can extend your unemployment benefits, promise free health care, increase the numbers on food stamps, increase the numbers on welfare ... both parties play this game. The best answer I can envision is to have the Federal Government as small as possible so it has a little power as possible (other than the responsibilities expressly stated in the Constitution).

AND, the Senate was intended to represent the States and the House was supposed to represent the people. The p og e i e in he ea l 20 h Cen , b he 17 h Amendmen , Killed o fo nde i ion. Be een ha , and he ile 16 h, opened he doo o o of con ol go e nmen g o h and e pen e.

Sure seems to be alot of pandering to the public all of a sudden since Massachusetts, no more ramming it down the throat of Americans, all of a sudden lets all be buddies, we want to work with the Republicans and the Independants, Democrats are becomming republicans all of a sudden, you don't see much of Her Highness Pelosi or King Reed, I would think if they try to continue to try to push the monstrous health care bill through there will be no comming back to the America Public who has figured them out 2010 elections 281 days away

There he goes again....preaching about something he knows nothing about!

2010 and the focus on jobs. What happened in 2009? Was there a lack of focus or was it just a year of celebration for the few? I guess he just had to sort out what he inherited.

You crack me up. Starting salaries are just that...entry level starting salaries. Why not talk about the range of entire compensation package expected at these operations? Why? Because you know that industrial labor and professionals working in the mining industry are some of the best paid workers in state - far surpassing tourism, farming, teaching/clerical, and many other sectors. It's one of the few remaining ways someone with only a high school education CAN support a family of four. Resolution and Rosemont will both offer top competitive salaries including overtime for labor positions, bricks-and-mortar health benefits, 401K and pension, quarterly and annual production bonuses, excellent job training that is transferable if needed to other industries, and chance for career advancement, etc.

The republicans have no plan and could care less. I am amazed by how well they package and sell their destruction of the middle class as "American". They want jobs but will not allow the government to spend any money, where are all those trickle down jobs? Why do I never hear anything about the lack of a republican plan, and only about the Obama plan not having a chance? ()^&*^&%& ( #̂*#%(#% )̂*#!!!!!!!!!! Where is your idea?

Doors open,and close.Good luck to everyone concerned.New operators/owners? Do what you will,please don't destroy that building,it is a Tucson treasure!

Agree Jim M., your post is moronic.

Robert P (azmole) mountain oysters a.k.a. rocky mountain oysters are the bulls testicles (after the bull has been castrated) and if prepared right, are not too bad to eat! We would castrate the bulls and cook the nuts on the branding pot when we were doing our ranch brandings. I remember years ago when Pinnacle Peak used to have them on their menu as an appetizer.

Occupy The United States border.

I live in Ward 1. Thank God I have never needed a "favor" from her. Seems like a pot-hole issue is not something that should require a favor. As for public event attendance, well golly goodie for her. I would rather have an elected official do a good job getting the city in order so that I don't have to ask her a "favor" that is something that the city should be doing in the first place.

For the life of me, I cannot understand the whole "me first" attitude and "claim to fame" concerning the state primaries. All states eventually must have their primaries (or caucuses, depending on the state). The ****ing matches that some states get into is absolutely ridiculous and, considering the state of the economy right now, a waste of money and resources. Enough is enough. Right now, leave things the way they are.

Instead of being more like Reagan, Obama should be more like Nixon - resign now. Problem solved.

To those of you who denigrate and belittle the protesters... what were you saying when Egyptians were occupying Cairo's Tahrir Square 6 months ago?

As one survey respondent put it, "senior leadership has failed in the CVB's mission in spite of a talented staff." but here's another QX I'm sure they didn't ask DID STATE LEGISLATURE make you job even more difficult with SB 1070 and OTHER ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT issues???? YES YES and still YES while visitors forget - it takes time and ECONOMY is NOT getting better for these BUSINESS GROUP MEETINGS

romero needs t , cute and all.

The last "pristine part of Arizona"?????? What a laugh, you don't get out much do you Ami. Just hole up and look for opportunities to pound on the keyboard with rhetoric.....sad.

"If the financial system had gone down, it would have taken the entire economy and millions more families and businesses with it," What this dipstick doesn't realize is that his actions take it down and when it does, regular folks' IRAs and 401Ks take a hit. NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks tumbled for the third straight day on uncertainty about President Barack Obama's plans to restrict big banks. The Dow Jones industrial average is ending down 217 at 10,173 Friday, according to preliminary calculations, its biggest drop since Oct. 30. The Dow is down more than 430 points for the week.

Michael K. - your comment that "Independents should butt out" makes since ther are a whole lot more independents than there are Greens and Libertarians (I am a libertarian). Lets cut to the chase and get rid of the federal mandates that protect minorities because of discrimination more than 50 years ago. Then just set the boundries based on compact, contiguous areas with equal populations. No more gerrymandering by the Justice Dept. or any politicians.

Assuming you mean pinche Raul with your "Toad" reference, I bow to your superior assessment.

Or exposing the other side.

Grrrrrrr..

There are NO Royalties to be paid on Hard Rock Mining unless it is being mined on Private Property. Read the Mining law.

"lesson for other dictators" I agree. Prepare you sovereign nation for an invasion from the U.S. dictatorial governments especially if you have any natural resources that the greedy and wealthy people in the U.S. want or you refuse to have a political system that the dictatorial hired help that rules over us DEMAND you have. Your sovereignty is at stake so BEWARE.

This is a stupid comment.

I'll bet there's a legal kid of legal parents who would have loved to have that seat in the gifted and talented class.

Thanks for the article, ADS. I'll add Border Action to my donation list. Why do you support illegal immigration? I support human rights and dignity. So does Border Action. They people they represent, for the most part, add to the richness of America. The people they represent came here illegally and take from America. Legal immigrants, who I support, enrich America. By donating to BAN, you are directly supporting illegal immigration.

I imagine call center work is not much more glamorous than flippin' burgers... but for some people - work is work, and they'll make it happen for them.

Isn't this covered under freedom of expression?

"You say you want a revolution?" - Beatles ...But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow... Useful idiots...

stumble or are unable to sufficiently compete. Privatizing emphasizes personal responsibility and rewards innovation, creativity and hard work. Which one is right? Really?? You don't know? Socialism emphasizes individual mediocrity, laziness, apathy and engenders an entitlement attitude, dependence and servitude to those in power. Which one is right?

I support the ideas of stiffer sanctions and ones that involve having the offender suffer the natural consequences of cleaning it up. It is so sad that we are spending our money on this when we need so many roads fixed, for example.

Too bad NOT a good idea.

Joel T ...water cannon and a good disinfectant soap!

The Pima County Health Department is trying to put Mexican restaurants out of business. First when places like El Guero open up, some people posing as liberals post things like "Mexican food isn't healthy for you"...."you shouldn't eat hot dogs"....etc....but since corporate America is against family-owned Hispanic businesses and they try to convince we the people not to eat at them, well that attempt fails, so corporate America then makes county health departments go after minority-owned businesses to shut them down. You need to start paying attention to the truth, and to not put creedence in what you hear on corporate talk radio.

in this country. Rosemont will just give us a chance to buy back the copper that we gave away. I don't care where China gets the copper just so it isn't from the USA.

I had a completely different experience. Another teacher and I traveled to Europe for the summer using Eurailpass. By the time we got off the train from Brussels, it was getting dark in Paris. A passing driver saw us standing on the street studying a map of Paris, pulled over and offered to take us to a hotel. We were so grateful. We noticed during our stay in Paris that whenever we pulled out a map to study it, Parisians would approach us and ask if they could help. But most of the time they thought we were Germans because we were both blonde and blue-eyed and Germans are big travellers throughout Europe.

Correction: consumes approximately 11% of the world s copper. On a per capita basis the U.S. consumption of copper is 14.4 lbs., while copper consumption for the rest of the world is 6.2

If the world were a logical place men would be riding the horse side saddle.

It appears that it is not the "libs" that Cain has to be "[let] alone" from.

But these desires stem from not wanting to work for them.I have heard ows on tv news stating all citizens should be paid $20 /hr whether they work or not,free college tuition etc. There was a time in my young adulthood when I lived on two tablespoons of wheat germ 3x a day, until I got off my duff and went out searching for a better job than what I had. I did not whine that my bros & sis had so much, I went out and worked for it too. My desires were fulfilled by my work ethic, no one gave me a handout. What say you about ows demanding a livable wage whether they work or not? about free college tuition? About the forgiveness of all debt,mortgage, personal bank loans etc and the forgiveness of foreign debt? So every country that owes us money does not have to pay it?

Its so funny reading the comments of the angry mob. Let me see 'Obama does ___' (fill in the blank). No matter what that blank may be, whether its good, bad or neutral, whether it is exactly what republicans want or not - you can bet that 100 comments of 'we're all socialists now' and 'but he uses a teleprompter', 'we're all doomed' are sure to follow. What do republicans really think of the proposal for a bigger tax break for kids? who knows. All they ever do these days just have the knee-jerk 'i hate obama' reaction to anything. Mainly, because republicans are now nothing more than a gigantic pack of whiners.

If this rally was about 2nd Amendment instead of 1st, I'm guessing we would be looking at a whole different set of comments. Hypocrites!

Has anyone suggested that she go to the Salvation Army drug/alcohol programs for women? Or to the Teen Challenge programs? Those are both tough programs, hopefully would straighten her out and perhaps help her with other problems as well.

Good riddance!

I just have to say that the Democrate City Council is working on a texting law when there are multiple scandals for fraud and abuse taking money from the city coffers. I am tired of hearing about the State Legislature and the House of Represenatives not working on important bills when the liberals do the same thing in Tucson. Hypocrits!

I enjoy you comments whether I agree or not. But, was this analogy in jest? BTW I am not an R.

The "group" can start writing checks right now.

Largely absent were his smiles and buoyant demeanor, replaced by somberness and an acknowledgment that his policies may have alienated some Americans. May have? LOL This President's arrogance knows no bounds.

Once again, the Star throws its support behind the failing status quo.

The sky is falling. The sky is falling. Again.

Can't have fireworks at my Fourth of July Party. Maybe I can invite Lindsay.

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Get well soon Dr. Flores!

Cabbage and Meatballs - 1lb meatballs of your favorite recipe 1 large head of cabbage, chopped or shredded 1 can of tomato soup salt and pepper to taste In the crock pot layer cabbage, then a single layer of meatballs, and spoon a little tomato soup concentrate, repeat until all the cabbage and meatballs are in the pot. Use a little water to rinse any remaining soup from the can. Cover and cook on low for 6 to 8 hours. Serve with a crusty bread, black pepper, and tobasco (or other hotsauce).

I think it is harder for Leonard Pitts to be honest than the right wing...

IN the olden days the sheep voted "the party line" and thinking was discouraged by either party. That was then, this is now. Think for yourself, vote for the candidate who wants what you want, not wears the same COLOR you do. Stop letting someone else determine WHO represents US. I am fully for NON-PARTISAN elections. Run on YOUR merits and YOUR opinions - NOT someone elses.

Then get the heck outta the way! Can all your danged new EPA regulations, restrict the NLRB to previously scheduled activities rather than trying to drive Boeing and other businesses out of the country, and stop all action on 0Care and FrankenDodd.

Family Relationships, with Marriage, Taxation, Government "in estigations", Should they not investigate corruption, were not the Democrats going to clean up the swamp? What happened to the promised transparency? The left got sold a bill of goods and in their arrogance, refuse to admit it.

few thousand years, which is an in ignifican blink of ime in comparison to the It all is just a matter of view point, but to answer your question, when looking from the point of view of geologic time, yes.

To push the Wall St. below the 38th parallel. Oh and to deflect blame from Obama's policies.

Separate, interrogate, incarcerate

My wife is always telling me how much she SAVED by going shopping at sales everyday. She'd save a lot more if she didn't go shopping. This claim to have saved the city millions ranks up there with Obama's claim about saving millions of jobs...yeah, right, sure.

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Those same germs are all over the inside of the restaurants too. The lady should have taken test tube samples from the tables, doors, and soda machines. Or how about from the roadkill they call meat at these dumps?

La Parrilla Suiza on Speedway

Have you fortgotten already? As far as Mexico's fleeing citizens are comcerned, both Vincente Fox and Calderon have repeatedly claimed there IS no recognized Border that is allowed to interfere with the free movement of Mexico's people into the US. Because it is their "God given" right to go wherever they want - regardless of our permission and regardless of our heartless immigration laws, the US has a moral obligation to accept as many of Mexico's illegal immigrant mouths to feed as Mexico can shed itself of! Every dealing we have ever had with Mexico involves Mexico with its hand out demanding something we can do for them or begging for something we can give them - which is usually money, money, money, and apparently as long as the US is stuck being next to them and can be tapped, it will always be that way! Unfortunately for the US, Mexico is continuing to be a bottomless pit of wasted money and resources, and a reservoir of unrelenting pain to the exhausted US taxpayers who are footing Mexico's bills as well as our own. Mexico has proven itself to be a sad waste of a country!

Contact McCain or Kyle tomorrow ... or, you can contact limbaugh later tonight.

....Really?

This news should please the democrats.

Next they will be asking for camp heaters and blankets when operation freeze begins. They also need port o potties I imagine. Where does it stop? Then there will be scuffles and theft and expect round the clock protection from TPD. I would much rather see a petition to the Govt to prosecute those evil wall st. people and hopefully anyone connected to them in congress. They certainly have the numbers for signatures. This protest does not affect me personally in any way so I don't rally care. They have the right and I am sure the city council will agree to their requests..

Nuisance suit. Traub is as guilty as COT in this mess when it comes to greed and incompetence. Maybe they should ask their 'boy' Shelko for a check. Tucson is a joke.

Another left-wing and irrational "opinion" from the Washington Post.

Barbara W: Thank you for your comment. I had been thinking this very thing as I was reading the article. It not only gave me some useful info, but in a light, humorous way that I thoroughly enjoyed reading.

Nearly every phone has a built-in tracking device. What if the fed required all phones to turn off, except for a beep, until they are static in a location?

UNION-owned bank. UNLESS it's a credit union. Then it's insured by NCUSIF. Member deposits are federally-insured by the National Credit Union Share Insurance Fund (NCUSIF), a federal fund backed by the full faith and credit of the US government, and operated by the National Credit Union Administration (NCUA), an agency of the US Government. We are regulated by the Arizona Department of Financial Institutions (ADFI) with oversight by NCUA for purposes of ensuring the safety and soundness of the NCUSIF.

I LOVE Crock Pots. They are great to put together something in the morning, come home and dinner is done. Whatever you want, chicken, beef, soups, stew, pot roast.... Buy a roast throw in some red chile sauce or salsa verde let it slow cook all day and you have a big pot of red or green chili. A stack of tortillas, condiments of choice and a couple beers.. Oh yeah.

How do you feel about the pecan business? Takes 3x the water Rosemont will use.

How about this... Some will argue that an increase in the tax rate removes the incentive for the tax payer to increase earnings. If that's the case, how will raising the rate on the aspiring members of the lower middle class be an improvement? Won't they just work less and avoid earning enough to pay the new rates? If the upper bracket would work less if their highest rate was raised 2%, how much more likely are we to see the same behavior from the lower brackets if their rate is raised 5%?

"Immigration Gumballs" great you tube vid that will open your eyes...

When this guy does anything it seems like the amateur hour over and over! Mr President...It's the economy stupid.....do your job..while you have one.