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in different parties to communicate well and to come up with a viable solution to every problem because conflict is part of life and as we're seeing in most election process is right now that this is where we're bringing people together and trying to organize to develop the vision

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in a field of potentially seasoned council members how do you see working together with others that may not share your values or point of view and how to address our agricultural needs first of all i think it's wonderful that there are a

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lot of new people trying to get into public service because i think that where a testament to the fact that where ready for something different and so i i i think that's wonderful i also think that for most of

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my career as an advocate i'm working with people who often don't see eye to eye domestic violence was not a very popular conversation in the eighty's when i first started doing this work so we brought this to the public we started having

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conversations and then we had to engage people to help us in the solution because it was a problem that we couldn't solve by ourselves and sometimes we had very differing opinions and so part of the thing that i'm most proud of is creating collaboration is that we're very

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effective to work on creating laws that protect victims of domestic violence creating task forces and collaboration's and that work together and bring people in from actually you know sometimes on polarized positions so i think

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as an advocate i have already had that experience of working with groups of people and i would bring that skill even as a freshman i'm not a rookie at working in groups of people thank you

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view of how challenging being a candidate is and i think one of the strengths that i have is my background in education to be an effective teacher you need to be able to present the same information

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a bunch of different ways because you're dealing with students who come from very diverse backgrounds are very diverse communities and so i can't just say one time and hope they all get it i have to say it five times in different ways and hope you all get it

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and to be able to know what different ways to say it i need to look at you as an individual and see where you come from i want to know where you come from where your background is so i know how best to present it to you so that you can get it so we can get on some

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kind of common ground you know my my travels in different countries have also helped me to not just present that information to people here in hawaii but but people from different countries and i

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believe it's my cultural background that helps me to understand those of different cultures and we need to be able to find common ground in order to move forward and i also understand that although we may disagree on one issue

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the issue doesn't define a person and i think too often we see leadership today that we are allowing one issue to define people and as a wonderful community the community that has helped to raise me we cannot be a little

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each other to think we are defined by just one issue because where we are more complex than that and we are we're so much better than that also and so i think i've already had experiences with there are people you know i don't agree with

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studying anthropology of agriculture and and it's amazing in india we talk about water in india they have a water temple system and this is how they manage their water where the people who designate how that

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but it exists and it works and i think we need to be able to one be educated on what works in different parts of the world to be able to bring what is the very best home to have we also need to be educated in what always work here

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our indigenous systems because we know what what works we know what this i know is made for and we need to be able to consult those experts we need to value that information and that education instead of ignoring it and putting it to the si

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so i'm very excited about about the vision i'm excited about this movement i'm excited to see what we can do together as a community

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and that even as a farmer other than working with the land i was involved with pesticide issues with land use issues with definitely the water issues that took to keep that farm going and to try and rehabilitate that farm after years of disarray through that

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through all these experiences i learned so much about the needs of farmers the needs of the land of the needs of businesses to actually survive in a very competitive and a world market again working with some of our flowers were not able to distribute overseas because of being out

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competed due to marketing aspects that happened in the eighty's way before i got involved those are all heavy issues and later i would love to communicate with everybody to get more ideas to help me understand individual issues to help

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you stacy do you have any concluding remarks about your positions on agriculture or is there a question you wish you would have been asked and if so please ask it and respond in two minutes well i really am

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i think i've learned so much in my little garden and you know and it inspires me i created a whole program just from a piece of calo that my son got visiting someone's field he brought it back he dropped it in a pot because i didn't have time to grow it

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kahlo and so i learned a lot in the garden i learned a lot from farmers you know that are doing way more than i am but one of the things that i think as a county we should do is support people who

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want to grow food because sometimes they're i think we need advocates for farmers and i think the county should create that whether it's in the form of a grant writer or in a in the form of an ag department or but some way to support the

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farmers because you might be really great at growing food and regenerating the soil and doing all the work that needs to go into and maybe not so great at writing a grant you know an r p g just came out which is a request for proposals to

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state our peas are very complex and i don't know i'm a grant writer i know how complicated they can be so i feel like the county would do well to higher ground right or to help not just the farmers but in this

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context certainly the farmers who may not have that skill set so i would like to see more advocacy for people like the farmers who need that level because there's money out there we just need to know how to get it so

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i look around the room and i see numerous people who i have provided that mary services for over the years i decided to run for the county council because i have been involved with agriculture

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for forty years as a veterinarian providing services for cattle horses sheep goats and all the small animals you can name as well as wildlife

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i'm looking forward to the election

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all agree we need to grow a new generation of farmers equipped with the skills to create successful farming enterprises the whole y farmers union united maui chapters farmer

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what issues would you want to raise before making such a decision in committee dr kaufmann thank you for such a specific question if you want a new generation of

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every year you have to write up your farm plan how much money are you going to make for the next five years as a farmer and the answer is well who knows is it going to rain is it going to flood what is it going to do and what are you go

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do with all these pieces of paper putting them in a filing cabinet and all the work i've done to create that what happens with it probably absolutely nothing it just sits there doing nothing my farm planting everybody's farm plan our

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founding fathers of the united states farm plan was straightforward we intend to not starve to death so we're going to make enough food to eat it is yellow my time's up or is it a warning i've got two

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more fifteen more seconds that's a lot well that's my farm plan i don't want to starve and i want to get rid of the paperwork that i have to turn in that proves it thank you

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with a farmer apprenticeship mentoring program i would like to see the benefit not only in growing a new base of farmers but also in sustaining and growing the farm land that we utilize to apprentice these farmers

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provide back to the program and to the community not only the food that we all like to eat but but that workforce that will be knowledgeable will have hands in the ajna no matter where they're at and we'll know specifically the

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types of things that we need here

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leigh and be able to take that forth and i'd like to see further that there are supports after this mentorship program so that we can continue to support those young farmers until they get to a point where they can actually begin to pay

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back into the program because i always want to see a pay it forward but remembering where they've come from because if we can build that base there and maintain that strong foundation then that is one of the first steps not just self sustainability for food but food

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security thank you

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i think what we need to do is provide those spaces where we can start to look at that using material that we have here to grow our own our own soil

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farmers vegetable farmers those who even farm grain to some extent now that hemp is being talked about as a huge crop to look at you know working in a diversified and inclusive

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manner i think we really can keep a lot of the waist down from certain industries by utilizing it in other industries and that all of that together you know we can kind of again in a pay it forward manner use the m

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that i have this much better seeded inverse in livestock things with those rather than things with roots whether you call it in your which is exactly what it is or whether you call it garbage you've got to move it around and put it

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somewhere to do any good with it in the old days when i was a young man garbage was dealt with by collecting it and the hog farmers would gladly take it and if you paid them to pick it up

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and then they fed it to their pigs and then they sold their pigs they could make money on both ends of the transaction and it would work it doesn't work that way anymore the economics of raising livestock that

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way are not there how are you going to move your garbage around is it going to have steak bones in it is it going to have napkins in it how are you going to process it and handle it and make it make sense i'd sure

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like to know you don't run around cow pastures picking up cow pies to use for fertilizer you go to places where there are a lot of livestock theodore's or cows and you get a lot of nor one time in order to use it for

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the consumer's mean tile meanwhile we have twenty thousand tons of food waste at the maui county dump and it does could be a valuable indigenous composting material so allan what plans do you have one

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minute to treat that food to become compost for farmers well my immediate plan is to run for county council so that i won't have to spend as much time moving the nor and garbage

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make that work we'd love to change our garbage into energy into something useful but at what scale are you going to do it and are you going to make it economically viable and best skilled at listening that's what i

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we know there are people on council who don't have very good listening skills and they're good people and i don't mean you know it is fat that thank you you see when that red thing comes up it means you're minute is over i'm my red green color blind sorry

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to regenerative farming practices when it comes to this type of nutrient recycling center and i absolutely believe that if we have the supports in place and at a small scale we can just grow

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our next subject is food hubs our prefatory comment is across the nation good hubs are becoming solutions for centralizing food processing and distribution

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increasing food production capabilities for small farmers by paving the way for reducing farmer costs our hawaii farmers union maoi chapters say this is an opportunity for creating

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farm cooperatives further why farmers union five point program is working with the state wide farm to school initiative for growing food for the dio we school lunch program

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would you prioritize it as a bill or procreation that you would stand behind introduce and or vote for if yes please describe benefits you can imagine for the citizens of

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healthy food financing initiative that you can find a healthy food access dot org there is the access the food access portal which also details quite a few funding sources i believe that a food hub here not only can

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aggregate product coming in and we need to help our farmers think about their growing a product because when we look at it everything is value added it's not a tomato it's salsa it's a sauce you know these are the kinds of ways that we need

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to get people thinking about the food that is grown here and i believe that with the food not only can we educate farmers but we can educate the public we can have agra tourism where we can have people going out and getting more in touch with their food because

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that's the issue here at hand today we are not in touch with our food we do not know where it comes from most of it is packaged and we do not know what's included in it and i think that's the crux of our getting ill and we need to take that back for our own h

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said is that if food hubs you want to have a commercial kitchen you give me a big affirmative on that i need a commercial kitchen one of the things i like to give to people one on sitting up in front of you and

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talking with you or to you camera or there is something very practical we're in a world of limited resources there's only so much that can get done one of the most difficult things th

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council members have to do is say here's the pie i'm sorry you're not going to get a piece you're deserving you should have it women helping women i'm all for it but there's not enough to go how are we going to do it and got fifteen seconds w

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i'd suggest is looking at putting those needed commercial kitchens into our community centers because we already have a location we already have the structure and already have some degree a kitchen thank you

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a workforce especially if they are involved in an apprenticeship program or if they're involved in more community jobs i think that's a very important thing to have in order and that changes through zoning

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pay for imported amendments and implodes irrigation cost in other words a lot of expense if you're going to be a farmer what do you think it will take to make farming a more successful enterprise and what could you do about that if you were elected

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well the first thing is there's going to be a farmer we could simplify it a lot if we would just take the definition of farmer and say it's anybody who files a schedule have on their federal tax return people get bogged down in

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conversations about how much money you have to make to be a farmer well there's no guarantee that when you take up the mantle of being a farmer that you're going to make any money at all and then if you do give it a number you must make ten

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thousand dollars to be a farmer people will game the system i've got a ten thousand dollars go i'm going to sell you for your ten thousand dollars land so let's not spend a lot of time making it more complicated

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sleeping already the old madison containers are located all over this island and farmland and that's where your wolfers sleep and sleeping him next is where they sleep but i close my eyes and squint because i don't want to see stuff that i might have to tell

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somebody about but the farmers the entrepreneurs are doing what they need to do to be able to get by and get the job done thank you that's why my time is up well i think you've made your point you've made a good

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the proper tory comment b f seventy was a near disaster for farmers and ranchers that lease or own barge properties we need these lands protected from ever being seen at their market value

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same question what would you propose for getting lower tax rates on agricultural lands were real farming and ranching is happening and part two to this question is that assuming you will be on

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the budget and find acts committee where the budget you would look at you would look for other tax revenue to make up for lowering taxes for least real farm and ranch land i'm sorry that's somewhat

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since it was first proposed the first time and we were able to get it voted down and the second time it looked like we had the votes figured out i didn't show up because i knew we had the votes figured out it got voted down and then i went down the

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third time bringing with me you know the first time i got some of my clients to come along including one who just had a knee replacement surgery the third time i think i had had my knee replacement surgery

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agriculture is subsidized over this entire plant the larger the agricultural operation the more subsidy there is the small rancher and farmer

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and that's who's here in the audience tonight gets the least subsidy and you're the ones using your sweat equity and the dollars out of your pockets from your second or third jobs to support your agricultural habit

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so what can we do well i got tired of going to the seventh floor of the county building to give testimony i got tired of looking at my clients sitting there

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looking at the backs of the council people except for the chair sitting way up high above everybody else and i decided at one point in a very weak moment to try and do something about

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until the people who sit on the council have experience in agriculture and listen to us thank you

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where in the budget mr word scuse me where in the budget would you look for other tax revenue to make up for lowering taxes for least real farm and ranch land

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account farmers that did not include people who are actively farming and that was the wrong thing to do when we look at what we what we can do to support our farmers i think we need to look at ag conservation ease

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ents where those farmers that agree and that the promise that this is what they're going to do is grow food you know that we allow them the conservation easements to help ease the burden of taxes on those

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specific properties whether or not they decide to build other other dwellings on it to how as themselves or their family or their workers i think that we very critically need to look at more

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taxes for least parmalat and real farm and ranch land absolutely look at where the visitor industry gets its funding from i would take from the visitor industry funding first

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because we seem to have this or members of the council seem to have this idea that that industry needs to be funded above all else and while that does bring money into our economy we cannot eat from it we can't we need to eat from our ajna and so

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i believe and i absolutely would on the budget committee look at that funding first

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thank you well on the subject of eating food security and self sufficiency dream it could you in one minute tell us if barges of food stopped coming to maui from the mainland tomorrow how you would propose to

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organize our food security for such a catastrophe easy question absolutely not an easy question because you know to me and i've i've looked up the definition of food security what

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that means is the access and availability of food for all regardless of whether or not you are economically advantage or disadvantage now mali county itself given if we were cut off from supplies by the barge right now we do not have

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enough food to last us out that week we definitely don't and furthermore those who are at a better economic advantage than others will end up getting that food there's no doubt about it you know supply drives and demand drives the

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market what we need to do and what i would like to do and hope is to support those small farmers those that are going to our farmers markets now and allow them the tech that they need the manpower the equipment whether

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it comes from county sources or not to help pull out that food harvest what we need and make it a community thing because if we all share we are we are in an island it is a kako thing we can we can get through it thank you

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thank you one minute question is about buying and eating locally if the price of local food is unattainable for the average resident how can the county partner with its farmers to ensure that they get what they need to make a

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one minute what i can say is that you've got to have food available if you're going to eat i've got a bunch of goats if you want some gold milk or some go meat i can make that