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### Human: Would that help to focus on that next time together, and we can write down some dot points together? | ### Assistant: Yeah, I guess. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yeah? Totally your choice. | ### Assistant: Yeah. I'll think about it when I have the appointment, I guess. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: You can think over it the next week and then see what could be helpful and we can brainstorm it so you're feeling comfortable. And mum's really experienced with working with the family and letting everyone have their voice in what's going on. So I'm hearing you'd like things to be a bit different with Mum, but you're not sure if change is possible. Is that my understanding? | ### Assistant: Just whether or not I want to talk about sort of what I've gone through. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: What's stopping you from talking about it, you think? | ### Assistant: Mum. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Mum? What about it? | ### Assistant: How she takes things when you say it. She doesn't exactly take things well. She gets very angry sometimes. Just in her eyes, she doesn't believe she's doing anything wrong. That's just her. She doesn't believe she's doing anything wrong most of the time. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yeah. So how do you think you could have that conversation now knowing that there's this potential appointment with Mum? | ### Assistant: I don't know. I guess I'd wait until Mum spoke about it to speak about it with her. I'd speak to her before. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yeah. I hear both of you work as a united front together with talking things through? | ### Assistant: Yeah. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Because things potentially won't change if you don't do some other work, potentially, so that could be good to have that space, and maybe it is the first session, you don't feel too comfortable to say too much and hear what Mum has to say, but it could also be a good place to go, "Hey, Mum, I do feel you take things personally, but this is how I'm feeling," so you can have that skill of being able to be confident, and it's at a place where someone can mediate that conversation too. | ### Assistant: Yeah. And I guess I'll think about it over the next week. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yeah. That sounds like a good plan. That's totally your choice. It could be a good option for you to have the space with Mum. And we can definitely talk about it too, but we will talk about unless you're feeling, "No, I don't really want to." It sounds like it can be a bit tricky with Mum, and the best way to be able to talk about it is to have her in the room so you can talk it through, which can be pretty scar in itself. | ### Assistant: Yeah. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: What are you thinking? | ### Assistant: I don't know. I'll think about it over the next week and see what I want to do about it and speak to you about it. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Sounds like a good plan because we definitely want everyone to feel like it's their choice around it, and I'm hearing it might be something Mum just hasn't gotten around to having a chat about that week, because she definitely said she wanted to check with you boys to check that you both came, like , for young men. And we can check you on this stuff and see where you're feeling with it. Sound good? | ### Assistant: Yep. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: I'll turn this off. | ### Assistant: Step two. Eighth of the ninth RV. so what's today's date? How are you since last week? | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Step two. Eighth of the ninth RV. so what's today's date? How are you since last week? | ### Assistant: Good. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Good. What's happened now till then? | ### Assistant: Not a lot. Just spent the weekend with dad. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. Which week are we on? | ### Assistant: min. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Where are we? | ### Assistant: It should be the first week because you got-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: It's week two now. | ### Assistant: Week two because of Monday, Tuesday. So the morning with dad. And then, yeah, you got Wednesday to Sunday. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: So did Dad drop you off today? | ### Assistant: Mom did. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Mom did. | ### Assistant: Because Dad went to work at around about 6:30, so. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: That would make it very hard to get here. I wouldn't want you waiting here at 5 o'clock in the morning. | ### Assistant: Yeah. So yeah, not a lot happening. Football's finished, now. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep, because you had your last, is it, game or last training session? | ### Assistant: We had finals. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Finals. | ### Assistant: So we had the semi-final, and we ended up going out the first round of finals. So the other teams we play are, and then grand final. So unfortunately, we missed out on that. So football is over. So Sundays we've got nothing. On Wednesdays and Fridays after school there's nothing at all happening. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: What's that like? That'll be a big change from-- | ### Assistant: Yeah. Considering the fact that it was everyday looking forward to going to football training on a Wednesday and a Friday. Having something to do. I guess, I'm just going to have to, I don't know, figure out if I go for a run during that time or-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: That's a good idea. | ### Assistant: --do something so I'm not just sitting around. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Because you're not someone that likes to sit around, are you? | ### Assistant: No. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: No. | ### Assistant: And especially with the fact that he is now going to start coming back in. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. How does that look like? | ### Assistant: I've still got this week and next week, I think, until the full preseason ends. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. maybe next week. Yep. | ### Assistant: Because they like to wait until every other sort of stuff goes. I think they may wait maybe three weeks, at least. Because I think IDFL, which is what most of the kids are from, they start a bit later than us start now, and so that you're a week behind or something like that. I'm not sure. So yeah. So I'm not 100% sure about that. But there's still, I think, another three weeks or four weeks, something like that, just before. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: And then, do you trial out for me? You were saying-- | ### Assistant: No. I'm not really trying out. It's whether or not you get invited back down. See, if you don't get invited back down this time, I think dad said something about the fact that you get invited down for the start of the six things, and, if they think that you're good enough to come back, that sort of thing. Because just got to wait and see, I guess. So at the moment, don't really know. And they'll probably send out a letter saying that we want you back. Because I would have already ma | ### Assistant: |
### Human: So wait and see kind of-- yeah. | ### Assistant: I think that's all. Yeah, but you've got to, basically, you just got to hope the fact that they've notice that you're pretty good or if they they think you're pretty good, you just got to hope that they invite you down. That's what you just have to wait and see. And it gets a bit-- when you get into 17s and 18s, that's when they start to then make a team, and that's it. Sometimes you can be invited down, but you can't be invited down after the age of 17 or 18. So when you hit 18, | ### Assistant: |
### Human: And is that for the VFL or the AFL from the--? | ### Assistant: So this is just through TAC. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: TAC. Yep. | ### Assistant: And when you get to 18, you have the chance to play TAC cup or-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. And that's the one in March. | ### Assistant: Yeah. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. | ### Assistant: So it just sort of depends whether or not-- so I know the school got 18 at all. So and that's basically the drop off. So after the start of the 18 squad, they're bringing some people. And they go, "Oh, no. That's it." And then, they'll just drop them off. And then, they'll make a team and leave. And most people that come in on the start of 18 squad normally do the hard work they have to do. Because it's normally the fact that when 18s, they're just getting because they | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. You're teaching me. All making sense, now. | ### Assistant: So up all that to 17, I'm pretty sure it's the same-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. So you're getting married at 18. | ### Assistant: --thing. Yeah. So I know a few friends in, not this year, the year above me. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. So they would be in the 16s. Yep. | ### Assistant: Age above me, that are in the 16 squad this year and almost going into 17s. So they've been getting close to the-- also getting close to the end of juniors because our club in toronto, they only go up to 17. You can play 18s, but you have to do it in a different club. everybody does 18s as seniors. So whether or not you want to play in 18s, you sort of got to find another club to go to. But I mean, yeah, most of the kids that I play with, now, sort of get to the end, then they've only g | ### Assistant: |
### Human: A year if-- yep. | ### Assistant: We can play in our own age group, and we can play down if we wanted to. So it just all depends. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: And what are you hoping? | ### Assistant: Well, I'm hoping that we get 17s next year and-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Oh, so you could go up a year next year, is that right? | ### Assistant: Well, it's basically we stick at the same. So we've done 16s each year. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Oh, so you are 16s this year, not 15s. | ### Assistant: Yeah. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: You did tell me this. I remember, and I was really confused. And then, we couldn't remember how old you were because you were going, "Wait, how old am I if I'm in--" yeah. | ### Assistant: So we did 16s this year. If they get a 17 squad up next year, we're obviously playing that. If we get a 16-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: And that's for sure? | ### Assistant: Yeah. If they get a 16s at all, I might play down in that. I guess, it just all depends on whether or not they end up getting a 15 squad-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. So just to wait and see. | ### Assistant: --to play. Yeah. A lot of stuff happens coming off the back of-- yeah, a lot of stuff happens coming off the back of all that time away. Some kids, obviously, don't have football like I do, and they don't have NFL squad, that sort of thing. So they sort of go, "All right." I don't know. So it's sort of dependent on whether or not they actually want to play football or not. So some of them drop off. Some of them either just lose interest or forget to resign up. That sort of thing. So it | ### Assistant: |
### Human: And both i and you are keen for next year? | ### Assistant: Yeah. We always enjoyed doing junior high because it's always with your friends. But when you're sort of-- you just play with them. That sort of thing. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: It sounds very different. | ### Assistant: It sort of gets into-- when you get into the 18s, that's your team, and you get to know them a bit more, how they play. But with so many people, I remember at the start it was 100 and something kids, so trying to learn what foot they kick, how they play, what their names are sort of gets hard. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: 100 people. That's a lot of people's names. | ### Assistant: Yeah. Because there's only 50 kids, now, it's even hard to do that, there. But they do split you up into teams. But yeah, you can, you sort of go-- you got to learn their name, and that's hard enough for me to learn their name, especially to learn a whole bunch of things. So it can get hard at sometimes, especially the fact that I'm not very good with names. And so-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: You're more faces than names? | ### Assistant: Yeah. hard to learn the names, and because I'm not exactly good with names. So it's hard because they expect you to learn everyone's name and make the effort to. But yeah, it gets extremely hard sometimes. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: And I'm hearing you do, it's just something that's really hard for you. | ### Assistant: Yeah. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yeah. Almost need name badges so that you can remember everyone's-- | ### Assistant: Sometimes you just give them numbers. But because their numbers always change depending on weight, that sort of thing. So you may be one number this time, but you may either have lost weight or gained weight, that sort of thing, then they put you in a bigger number or smaller. It all gets-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: So a lot of changes. | ### Assistant: Yeah. And some kids steal some other kid's number. So it's hard to, yeah, it's hard to learn everyone's name. But when you sort of get into 18s, you sort of know that that's your team, and you learn it. That sort of thing. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. And it sounds like it won't be as confusing, then. | ### Assistant: Yeah. But you've sort of being where I am now, and sort of coming back, and you sort of see everyone. One kid might be there one week, and then you might come back, and they might have dropped it the next time you come back after the break. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: And you're thinking in the break during these times you might run, is what you're thinking? | ### Assistant: Yeah. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. | ### Assistant: And yeah. So there's getting ready for work. And also getting outside because sort of the only times we would get outside if it's a Saturday or Sunday because you don't have that anymore. So what do I do? Because it's pretty much played a big part in the week is gone that you know. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yeah. It takes up so much. Yeah. | ### Assistant: Yeah. then you put all your focus and effort into it, and now you've don't have that. And so you go, "I've got to put my effort and focus into something else, so." | ### Assistant: |
### Human: And you're not going somewhere and just naturally are exercising. Where now, you've got to actually plan and go. It's very different. | ### Assistant: Yeah. So yeah. I just got to find ways to exercise. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: And is mom cool with you running around the block? Or where do you usually go running? | ### Assistant: I haven't spoken to mom about it at all, but on the Sunday on dad's week, he's literally just two minutes away from the oval. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Oh, good. | ### Assistant: So I can go for a run around there, do a few laps. That sort of thing. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Because we were chatting last time with you wanting to be more independent. And I'm wondering if that's something you could talk with mom about fo your own independence. | ### Assistant: Yeah. That's what I was going to do Sunday, or I just run around the block mom's week, and just-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Sounds like that'll be all right to do. | ### Assistant: Yeah. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yeah. | ### Assistant: Because dad's got weights and fitness bands that think the Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday could be all that sort of stuff. And the Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday could be at mom's running around the block, playing with the dog, something like that. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: That sounds like a good plan. | ### Assistant: We've got them, so they're very energetic running around. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Definitely the best dogs to run with. | ### Assistant: Yeah. But they're not sort of fetch sort of things, and it's hard to play with them because they run off beyond-- they run off on you. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Do they? And they're pretty fast dogs. | ### Assistant: Oh, and you got to-- and you got to make around them play that sort of stuff. They sort of will play with you, and then run away, and then sneak up to you, and then do it again. So it's truly odd. Because their instinct is with playing that sort of thing. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: They're cattle dogs, aren't they? | ### Assistant: Yeah. pretty much farm dogs and cattle and sheep. That sort of stuff. So it's hard because their instinct is to stalk you, and then come play by you, and that sort of stuff. So it's hard to play with them because they run off. And then, when you come to run up to them, they're sort of up and bolt, sorry. I don't know. I will figure out something, at least. But dad's-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: That sounds like-- | ### Assistant: --got weights and that sort of stuff. So whether or not I designate-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: That sounds like-- | ### Assistant: --Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday at dad's doing that sort of side of things. He's got fitness bands. The things where you can put on your legs, and you pull like that. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. Yep. They're great. | ### Assistant: . sitting on the couch. There's really not a lot of moving, and you can do it with your arms and that sort of stuff. Or with your legs, you could hold it like this and pull it down, so. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: There's a lot you can do with the bands. | ### Assistant: Yeah, and you don't have to-- it's not like you have to get up and move or that sort of thing. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: And you can really feel it in those small muscles in your legs and arms from the band. | ### Assistant: So you sort of get-- you don't have to-- A, you don't have to move, which makes it practical. So you could sit on the couch, watching TV, and do it. I did that, obviously, days that I'm not playing or training the next day because you don't want to end up extremely sore where you can't lift your arms up. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: That's not ideal, then, to run around with a gun if you can't lift your arms. | ### Assistant: So you're sort of-- yeah, because now football is over, I can do that sort of stuff. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: So we're thinking Wednesdays and Fridays at dad's, that'll be the bands and weights. Sundays are run at dad's. And then, at mom's, you'd run in the afternoons. | ### Assistant: ##0 at home and run around the block. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: That sounds like good planning. I'll check in with you when I see you in a few weeks of how that's gone. | ### Assistant: Yeah. Because I would like to keep my fitness at the level that it is. I know that it's not the best at this stage because I was away for four weeks, and that sort of brought it back down again .-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: And you had your say yeah. | ### Assistant: --brought it back down again, so. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: That sounds all pretty realistic. | ### Assistant: Yeah. And it keeps my fitness at this level and also brings about my strength in my arms and that sort of stuff because I totally get to do pushups. They expect all the physical side of stuff, stretching, rugby club, football, I expect to be able to run, work to retain that sort of thing. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. It's a nice balance of the two. | ### Assistant: Yeah. And , also when they come into the school, which is that goes to the end of the year, they sort of get you to work at that fitness side of things, so. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. That sounds like a good balance. And how are things with mom? | ### Assistant: All right. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: All right. | ### Assistant: Didn't end up going to family thing. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: What happened about that? | ### Assistant: She texted me that morning and asked, "Look, I got this thing planned. Do you want to go to it?" And I said, "No, not really. Didn't know a lot about it. You didn't even ask me about it until this morning, so no." And she didn't reply back and hasn't spoken about it since. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Okay. And what are your thoughts about that? Something you want to talk to her about or leave it? Or what are you thinking? | ### Assistant: I was just really sort of just was going to leave it. I already knew that I didn't want to do it, and kind of definitely didn't want to do it. So we spoke about it then . no, not really, so. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: And if yourself or both you and i change your mind, we can rebook the session. I had a chat with you to follow up on where things are at, and she said we can just rebook when and if you're feeling ready, like we were talking about last time. Because you were saying that you were kind of like, "I might do it. I don't really want to at the moment." | ### Assistant: Yeah. Sort of like do it, and then do it close to the end of the year where you're sort of getting close to, obviously, what we both want to do. And obviously, getting 16, you get that independence court-wise. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: And it might be good-- | ### Assistant: Which I want to lose the court side of things because it's holding us back a lot. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: And that sounds like that'll be nice. If we do it at the end of the year, just because you can get booked out, too, if we can book that in so you can have a few sessions before you're 16. | ### Assistant: Because it was sort of at the moment mom-- because the fact that-- because that Thursday came back, and mom suggested to make that just a five-day. So taking off a day like this. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. That sounds pretty reasonable. And that makes it easier for you than jumping across-- | ### Assistant: Yeah, so it would be Monday morning, and it would be-- oh, so it would be Wednesday night-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: So we've got week one. Yep. | ### Assistant: --Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday morning, and then we get back Tuesday, and Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. So I wouldn't see dad for a whole-- well, we would only see dad in the morning in that whole week. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: So is that kind of a week-on, week-off does that end up being? | ### Assistant: Not quite. Yeah, so mom was-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: min. | ### Assistant: --just going to move one of these. And what I asked her to do was she could add a day on there. If she'd go-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: So would this be--? | ### Assistant: --Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: So where are we? So if today is week one-- no, today is week two, isn't it. It's dad's. | ### Assistant: Yeah. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. So what's the plan? | ### Assistant: So what I was thinking of doing is doing-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: So at dad's or at mom's we are? I'm just confused with whose place we're at. | ### Assistant: So what mom suggested was taking off one of these days-- | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Ah, so this one of dad's days. | ### Assistant: --that dad already has, and making it a part of their block. So we're not going back and forth. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: So you're kind of swapping these two around? | ### Assistant: Essentially, yeah. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Kind of, yeah. That sounds pretty reasonable. | ### Assistant: But what I asked mom if she could do was take off one of her days, so it was Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday it sort of evens out because you've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. So then, it's day-on, day-off. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. | ### Assistant: Because mom's got eight at the moment, and dad's got five. So one, two, three, four, five, six. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Six. And so it's seven, seven. That sounds pretty reasonable. | ### Assistant: And it evens it out. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: And what were mom's thoughts? | ### Assistant: Because then, when you go-- so it's basically this, it's just reversed. So that would be dad, and mom, dad, and mom. That sort of thing. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: So it's swapping. | ### Assistant: And I saw that as a bit more practical. But mom was saying moving it and keeping her. So it was sort of like I don't exactly know. So we just decided to-- we don't expect mom who was still thinking about it. I'm going to get back to her when we had a decision. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: Yep. Because I'm hearing for you, you're thinking it'll be easier if your at dad's and you just stay at dad's. | ### Assistant: Yeah. The thing was the fact that that's because mom can't do it because it's something she put in with court, that's the big part about the fact of losing court. And that's what the whole idea of when you hit 16, you sort of court-- if I decide to not come home that day, mom can't go and say, "no." She can't. She's got to work it out between just mom, and dad, and us. | ### Assistant: |
### Human: And is that what I'm hearing you'd really like that you would know. | ### Assistant: Yeah. Well, that's where it was at the start, and it was a lot easier because we could make up days. And then, it was only the fact that when dad started saying, "All right, look, I want him to stay an extra night," and mom wouldn't let us. And it was sort of like instead of mom going, "Oh, they want an extra night, so why not," that sort of thing. But mom saw that as the fact that dad's trying to take us away from her. So that's when she brought the court in, and it went from just mom and | ### Assistant: |