User1: |djm|: Perhaps try to find out what kind of controller the cdrom is attached to, and then if a driver exists for it. Then load the driver before installing from a terminal
User1: |djm|: Alternately, if you have an external cd unit which can be attached by USB, try to install from that. Since the usb-storage driver is known about by the installer.
User1: |djm|: The reason is because it doesn't need to know what kind of driver the cd uses to boot in bios from it and run the installer itself, since thi loads into ram
User2: any small chance anyone here update there harmony (logitech) remote with congruity? if so can you still do it?
User3: hey
User3: i need some help. i'm using intrepid ibex with kde 4.1 on two computers and 4.2 on another, and on none of the computers does it save the application launcher widget that i re-add every time i log in. anyone able to help ?
User1: |djm|: Can you pastebin a:      lspci -nn            result?
User1: |djm|: This may give us a hint of what driver could be required
User4: hi all, where can I find the " Launch Feedback" in the System Settings... it seems to be missing as opposed to the normal KDE3.5
User4: on kubuntu 8.04
User1: |djm|: Besides the alternate cd, you have a regular livecd? Can be done from there
User1: |djm|: Can also be done from in alternate but convoluted
User1: |djm|: We're not looking for any cdrom entry :)
User1: |djm|: We're looking for an antry which corresponds to whatever IDE/SATA controller the thing is attached to
User5: hi there i am using Konqueror just wondering if anyone can access myspace with it
User1: *entry
User1: |djm|: OK. So we take now the vendor:device in this case  8086 (intel) and 2929 look for a linux driver
User1: |djm|: Gimme a few minutes, looking into it
User1: |djm|: Hmm, looks like you may need only the ahci driver ...according to http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/SATA_AHCI.html
User1: |djm|: Try in the busybox of console 1,2 or3 in the alternate cd:     modprobe -i ahci
User6: how do I move plasmoids around?
User6: when i drag them they just appear to detach, but not move
User1: |djm|: I remember there is 4 consoles available in alternate but not which one installer is running on... but alt-f<number> back to it after then try continue install
User1: User6 If you mean moving them around on the bar, I'm not sure it's possible yet. I usually remove and readd them in the order I prefer
User6: no, like on the screen
User6: I used to recall dragging them around and they'd end up where I wanted them to
User6: not so much anymore
User7: heh
User1: |djm|: Keep me posted if possible. One of the consoles is also error/stdout type stuff which you can toggle to to see what it might be trying to do
User8: fixme:virtual:NtAllocateVirtualMemory MEM_WRITE_WATCH type not supported
User8: fixme:advapi:CheckTokenMembership (0x174 0x165610 0x5aeedd8) stub!
User1: User8 And this happens when.. ?
User8: trying to run a game on wine
User1: User8 PErhaps ask them in channel #winehq
User1: |djm|: OK. What make/model is the computer? The laptop testing wiki may have something on it
User9: hola ?
User9: alguien que hable espaÃ±ol ?
User1: User9 /j #kubuntu-es
User9: hola hoal ?
User1: User9
User1: En espaÃ±ol
User1: InglÃ©s solamente aquÃ­
User10: User1 sorry, my internet keeps going down. the install stopped at the same place, ran modprobe, but had same problem.
User9: ammm que mal
User8: anybody know how to fix this?   fixme:virtual:NtAllocateVirtualMemory MEM_WRITE_WATCH type not supported
User9: no speak very fine english o.O
User1: User10  I have no other immediate ideas
User1: !es | jeshua
User11: User9 En la mayorÃ­a de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglÃ©s. Para ayuda en EspaÃ±ol, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
User10: User1 ok, thanks for your help anyway
User9: gracias entrare ahi ^^
User1: User9  :)
User12: !en
User11: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
User1: User8 What did they say in the #winehq channel? That is is some *buntu issue?
User8: everyone got really quiet
User8: nobody speaking anymore in that room
User1: User8 Maybe someone is looking into it there
User8: maybe not
User1: User8 http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-bugs/2007-August/066835.html
User1: User8 Indicates some Visual Basic issue
User8: i installed visual basic to fix it
User13: lol, vb
User8: i think
User8: i got some prompt
User8: how do i fix it?
User1: User8 No idea. I know almost nothing about wine
User8: well thanks for your help
User8: youve got moxy
User14: Dolo, try using wine from their repo (Don't ask us for support though, it's unsupported) if you want
User8: k
User14: but the version in ubuntu is up to date I think
User15: !k3b
User11: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
User15: How can i get MP3 support in K3B?
User1: libk3b2-extracodecs or libk3b3-extracodecs
User15: thats what that URL said, and i tried it from there and it didnt work, but i just coppied your text and it worked
User15: thanks genii
User1: User15 You're welcome
User16: I just installed KDE for Ubuntu 8.10, and i log in, and the text is so small....i can't tell what i am doing, can anyone help me?
User17: User16  4.1, I'm assuming?
User16: yeah....
User17: User16  I have the same install, although I'm in gnome at the moment..let me log out and in to kde, then I'll see if I can help you.
User18: Hello
User17: I'll brb
User17: User16  Back.
User16: User17 k
User17: User16  To adjust your font size, go to K Menu->Computer->System Settings
User17: Tell me when you're there
User19: fryguy: what desktop environment do you use?
User16: User17 k gotta log out and see if i can see wut im doing :D, cause text for everything is really small
User16: brb
User17: k
User17: wb Psyrix
User17: :)
User16: Firefishe,: i can tell you said my name, but cant read it, lol
User17: what irc program are you using?
User1: Too bad he can't see anything
User20: hello all. I am very new to kubuntu..........I have downloaded seamonkey. Seamonkey is asking me to  download the latest version. 1.1.14  I say yes............I do not   know how to open the file, can anyone help
User1: User20 Did you try to install seamonky from Add/Remove Programs first?
User20: yes........I am using HH 8.04
User20: and I have the package that was supplied with this
User17: User20
User17: What's the file end in?
User17: .bin?
User20: I am going to "save to disk" and let you know
User17: why don't you try to install seamonkey via synaptic?
User17: unless you want the latest and greatest from the site
User20: I think I do want the latest and greatest.............lol
User20: the file is on my desk top it says it is a tar.gz
User20: how do  I get a tar.gz to execute?
User21: rm -rf *
User1: User21 Don't do that in here
User20: anti roach, I am not that stkupid
User20: stupid
User1: User20 First you need to uncompress the archive
User20: I have done that
User20: I am in a   terminal
User1: User20 So then go into the directory it made and look for a README or so
User20: I just can't execute, I don't   know the command
User20: seamonkey-1.1.14.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz  seamonkey-installer
User20: kevin@kevin-desktop:~/Desktop$ cd seamonkey-installer/
User20: I do not know  what to do      next
User20: dpkg install?
User1: User20 ls the contents and look for some file which says README or INSTALL   or so. Then do:   more README                   or such to see instructions for it
User20: hear is a paste of the readme file'''''''''''Change to the seamonkey-installer directory (cd seamonkey-installer) and run the installer with the ./seamonkey-installer command.
User20: I still don't   know   how to run the installer
User1: User20 Yes, you do now. EG:   type in:             ./seamonkey-installer
User20: will do
User20: it says 'no such directory' just aminute I think I have done something wrong
User20: what is the difference between red and  blue in the bash shell?
User1: Blue is a directory. Green is an executable file. Red normally means a broken link
User1: Red can also be jpg and other picture formats as well
User20: I am very colour blind.................thanks genii
User1: Depends if text or background is red
User20: I typed ls
User20: and got a 'dred' listing and a blue listing
User20: seamonkey-1.1.14.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz  seamonkey-installer
User20: where do I go from here?
User1: User20  cd seamonkey-installer && ./seamonkey-installer
User20: ok
User22: kevin_, use  /bin/ls and you will get black and white
User22: or reset the color option for ls
User20: it says
User20: not a directory
User20: this is where I am at in the bash shell....kevin@kevin-desktop:~/Desktop/seamonkey-installer$
User1: User20 According to the readme part which read "Change to the seamonkey-installer directory (cd seamonkey-installer) and run the installer with the ./seamonkey-installer command"     doing:  ./seamonkey-installer                           is the next step here
User20: genii, thanks I will try
User20: Desktop/seamonkey-installer$ ./seamonkey-installer
User20: ./seamonkey-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
User20: does  not work
User20: I will leave now. and try  to search through google'
 * genii sips his coffee and takes more Advils
User23: genii you lucky bastard.
User23: I had no coffee cream in here
User23: ^^
User24: anyone here use amarok 2
User24: ?
 * genii fills a bunch of Kubuntu mugs with coffee and passes them around
User25: Hello, are there any packages for Ipod in Kubuntu?
User25: hi gh0s7, i have used amarok
User24: JediaNight: are you looking for something to manage your music on your ipod?
User26: i cant mount my external HD. it says : mount : cant read super block. when i try dosfsck it says : root dir starts with a bad cluster. anyone that can help ? thank you
User24: oops i meant jediatnight
User25: yes gh0s7
User25: are you familiar with any?
User25: i have installed gtk pod but it doesn't work right
User24: User25 yamipod
User25: User24 is it a debian package?
User24: User25 I forget actually lemme check
User24: User25 google it they have a linux version available i dunno if its a tarball or deb
User24: User25 im not sure though honestly, you're asking the wrong person I havent used an ipod in a long time
User25: yeah , they have a tarball
User24: jediatnight: i think songbird also will manage it
User25: brb
User24: jediatnight: if you like amarok you can upgrade to amarok 2 and it will work
User27: ola
User27: es
User27: -es
User27: o.O
User28: ola
User28: porfavor una sala en espaÃ±ol
User28: !es
User11: En la mayorÃ­a de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglÃ©s. Para ayuda en EspaÃ±ol, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
User28: gracias
User29: I plug my ipod into and nothing is tiffany96@example.org. I'm using kubuntu 8.10, any ideas?
User25: User29 you have to install some software which can manage ipod
User25: im also in the same situation like yoiu are
User25: try yamipod /amarok2 / songbird
User29: jediatNight: i have amarok2
User25: I havent tried amarok2 yet,
User25: most softwares are used only for playing songs on an Ipod
User29: i plug ipod in nothing happens
User25: and not for managing or synchronizing
User29: yeah, but even in the logs nothing happens
User29: as if kubuntu can't see it
User25: im fiddling with yamipod
User25: there is a yamipod installer for kubuntu
User30: hello all
User11: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
User30: is this a good place to ask about starting to try and fix bugs
User11: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
User30: well I have some programming experience, and was wondering if I could help out in some way
User30: I see
User11: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
User11: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
User1: !5aday
User11: 5-a-day is a community event where each person will take 5 bugs a day and work on them. Everyone is invited to help no matter your abilities! More information available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day
User1: mister-tea: I was researching something and missed it
User25: !yamipod
User11: Sorry, I don't know anything about yamipod
User25: !songbird
User11: Sorry, I don't know anything about songbird
User1: But I thought people might generally want to know anyhow
User31: hello all
User1: !hi
User11: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
User31: quick question, maybe someone can help: is there a way to get a newer kernel than 2.6.24 into kubuntu 8.04?
User31: upgrading to 8.10 is a no-opt at the moment due to the lack of kde3 in that release
User31: otoh, there is new hardware supported in the 2.6.27 kernel that i like to use, which isn't in 2.6.24
User31: any ideas?
User32: hi, i've download xvidcap, but the video i make, other people "on windows" can't read them ?
User1: User31 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
User31: User1 thanks, albeit i'd like to avoid compiling it on my own, it seems there is no other way. i thought there might be an apt repository that could be used
User1: User31 None that I'm aware of.
User31: User1 yea, too bad that 8.04 is stuck with .24 ...
User31: ok, that was all i wanted to know ... thanks and bye!
User1: User31 There may eventually be a backport
User31: User1 looked there already, but to no avail
User27: ia no seq hacer
User27: !es
User11: En la mayorÃ­a de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglÃ©s. Para ayuda en EspaÃ±ol, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
User33: !-es
User11: es aliases: spanish, espanol - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 01:16:12 - last edited by mneptok on 2008-06-11 05:28:07
User34: User33 claro que si?
User33: esq
User33: me ayudas =??
User9: cual es el canal de ubuntu en espaÃ±ol ???
User33: !-es
User11: es aliases: spanish, espanol - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 01:16:12 - last edited by mneptok on 2008-06-11 05:28:07
User33: xD
User33: ubuntu-es
User1: User33   /j #kubuntu-es    o  /j #ubuntu-es
User35: hello?
User1: !hi
User11: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
User1: User35 You have some support question?
User36: hiya everyone
User36: ubuntu rocks
User36: FYI
 * genii hands out another round of coffees
User37: hey anyone who can ghelp me
User37: hello?
User37: ayuda
User1: User37 What is your issue?
User37: my problems is wit amsn
User1: User37 Which program are you using, and what more specifically is the problem exactly
User37: i download that skins or pluggins but it doesnt show up in thaat option
User37: kubuntu
User37: and i cant used them
User1: User37 pidgin, amsn, kopete, what appname?
User37: amsn
User36: http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=9907
User36: man this station is tearing it up
User36: so good
User1: User36 Please don't in the support channel. We have lots of -offtopic channels here :)
User1: User37 1 minute to research
User37: ok
User1: User37 Did you put the skin file in the /home/your-username/.amsn/skins    ?
User37: yes
User37: but when i go to da option skins or pluggins i cant see them
User1: User37 Did you close and reopn asmn after you put the skin in it's directory?
User37: yes i even shut off and turn on that pc but nothing
User35: is it just me, or is the wine server down at the moment?
User1: User37 OK. Please tell what result of:   ls -l ~/.amsn/skins        is. If more than a line or two, use the pastebin and not the channel here
User1: User35 winehq or budgetdedicated ?
User35: budgetdedicated
User35: the website seems to be up
User35: but when I try to download it via adept, or even download the authentication key, i hit a wall
User37: total 4788
User37: drwxr-xr-x 2 ricardo ricardo    4096 2008-12-12 21:51 BlackCarbon
User37: -rw-r--r-- 1 ricardo ricardo 1286144 2008-12-19 23:56 cannabis-3.4.zip.part
User37: -rw-r--r-- 1 ricardo ricardo 2950373 2008-12-12 21:45 Dark_Matter-1.0.zip
User37: -rw-r--r-- 1 ricardo ricardo  642568 2008-12-19 23:58 Kubuntu-1.6.tar.gz
User37: drwxr-xr-x 2 ricardo ricardo    4096 2008-12-12 21:51 __MACOSX
User1: User37 GEEZ!  I told you: Use the pastebin if more than a couple lines
User1: !pastebin
User11: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
User1: User37 OK, it looks like maybe you did not unzip/untar  the skin files there
User37: http://paste.ubuntu.com/88995/
User1: User37 command:   tar -xvzf ~/.amsn/skins/Kubuntu-1.6.tar.gz -C ~/.amsn/skins
User1: User37 That should do the one file
User1: User37 The cannabis one is incomplete download  (ends with .part)
User1: User37 For the zipped one:       unzip ~/.amsn/skins/Dark_Matter-1.0.zip -d ~/.amsn/skins
User1: User35 I'm getting the same right now
User35: i installed runonlinux, does that run the same as wine?
User35: it seems to have installed wine regardless...
User37: i have another problems
User37: im trying to use adept or synaptic but i cant get them open! why?
User1: User37 With amsn ?
User37: no with adept or synaptic
User1: User37 Did you do something before like:    sudo adept                   or: sudo synaptic        instead of: kdesu adept            or: gksu synaptic        ?
User37: nop
User1: User37 OK. They just don't open at all?
User38: ola!?
User1: User37 Do you have the update-notifier running on the taskbar?
User1: !es | Guest54994
User11: User38 En la mayorÃ­a de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglÃ©s. Para ayuda en EspaÃ±ol, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
User37: but i wanna get a cairo dock how can i  isntall it with out sinaptic or adept
User37: yeah
User1: User37 You wont be able to run any package managers if the update notifier is running
User37: i seee so whatshould i do?
User1: User37 Wait until your updtes finish
User37: mins so i
User37: it was done like 2 mins ago but still nothing
User1: !aptfix
User11: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: Â« sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a Â»
User1: User37 Try what the bot suggests. Then after try to open Adept
User37: there is working now so what happen why didnt work few secs ago and now it does?
User1: User37 Maybe the updates were still chugging away updating the database or so
User1: This is why I like command line install since you see everything
User37: i see thanks so how can i change a kubuntu them or a cairo dock
User1: User37 I'm not much help with that
User39: What does it mean if mplayer can play mp3s but amarok 2 cannot?
User40: hey
User41: What's the English word for the little inverted yang symbol that opens the panel settings and offers dashboard options, etc?
User40: @?
User41: well, no :3
User40: #
User40: ?
User1: & ?
User41: they don't look like either of those two. >.<
User1: Where is it located on your keyboard?
User41: Not on the keyboard, on the plasma panel and on the dashboard workspace
User41: When unlocked
User39: '
User41: All the way down to the bottom left of your screen?
User41: er, right
User40: ummm, my taskbar down the bottom disappeared n dnt kno how 2 get it back
User1: !kicker
User11: Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker
User1: Hm
User42: anyone running 4.2 here?
User1: Musta removed that one
User41: User40 Just delete ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*, though you need to be logged out when doing it, so either in a commandline environment or in a root shell
User41: User40 will wipe all plasma settings though
User43: anyone running kde4.2 here?
User40: huh?
User40: im lost as
User40: but yea im running kubuntu 8.10
User40: did like 257 updates wen installed
User44: Quick question: I am using Kubuntu 8.10 live DVD, is there a disk partitioning program included?
User44: I can't locate one
User40: i installed kubuntu 8.10 dvd today
User41: User44 I think gparted is included, at least on the CDs
User44: I can't find it in the program menu
User41: User44 Just try running (Alt+F2): kdesudo gparted
User43: User44 install qtparted
User40: it doesnt show much or the program menu
User44: it's the x64 DVD if that matters
User41: Oh, there's a qtparted?
User40: oh, mines the i386
User1: Possibly qtparted
User44: User43  there is no install, I'm running off a DVD
User43: ah i see
User41: User44 You can still install it in the live environment, provided you're not very very short on internal memory
User43: but you know you can install programs in live cd mode? ive done that before
User44: actually I had no idea
User44: I have 2gb ram
User40: i need a package for wine coz i dont kno how 2 install it otherwise
User44: ok I'll install, should I get gparted or qtparted?
User1: User44 Since on KDE qtparted
User44: ok it installed I'll give it a try now thanks
User45: hey, anyone know how to autologin and start KDE without KDM?
User37: hey is there any one who know how to install ccsm in 8.10
User37: #kubuntu-es
User46: !ccsm
User11: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
User46: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'
User37: i try it but none of those work
User46: then i suggest you clarify what 'did not work'
User47: i'm have'n a little bit of trouble with my computer
User47: whenever i put in a disk when i start up my computer like Kubuntu 8.10
User47: it does NOT wanna start up
User47: i have gone in the bios and tryied to see if the problem does lye in there but it doesn't.
User47: can anyone help me out???
User48: You mean it dosent boot from any bootable optical drive?  skii?
User47: that's rite
User48: and you see any error messages from the disks?  'not start up' is rather vague...
User47: nope
User47: it just goes straight to the grub menu
User47: so do u think that u can help me out willis_???
User48: skii,  summarize the whole problem again to the channel.. it sounded like you said  it Installed , but grub fails to boot the Ubuntu Install ?
User48: but i may of missed part of iot. M<y isp is flakey
User48: Ice storms and a lame isp
User37: #ccsm
User37: #kubumtu-es
User45: hey everyone, when I use startx to start kde4.2 from the command line without kdm my sound doesn't work, anyone know how to fix this?
User49: It seems silly I know but I'd like to add an icon to my kde desktop that shows /dev/sda1, how can I do that.
User37: kubuntu-es
User37: #kubuntu-es
User50: User37 /join #channel :D
User48: kd4 has a panel applet thing that can show mountpoints/devices in the panel..    or mount the device to /media/sda1 and drag/drop a link to the desktop perhaps?
User51: can someone help me
User51: i dont know how to change my nickname thing
User48: clarify 'nickname thing'
User52: User51 /nick name
User51: i figured it out
User53: Hola buenas, alguien  despierto a estas horas?
User53: necesito ayuda con una conexion inalambrica y controladores windows
User53: he instalado los controladores windows, pero no se como hacer funcionar el wifi
User53: inicialmente instale ubuntu sin tener este aparato de wifi conectado, y no se si debo instalar algo mas
User53: alguien puede prestarme ayuda con esto?
User53: he comprobado que estan instalados el ndisgtk, ndiswrapper-common, y ndiswrapper-utils
User53: no se que mas puedo hacer
User53: He seguido la ayuda para comprobar que el dispositivo este funcionando, pero sigo las indicaciones para probarlo en un terminal, y me aparece un galimatias que no entiendo.
User53: Alguien me puede ayudar con una conexion inalambrica?
User54: Hi, question bout my wireless
User54: my wifi card isn't recognized the LiveCD
User54: but it's there on the supported hardware page
User54: is it just because it's on LiveCD?
User48: Very likely
User54: ok
User54: thank you
User54: oh, one other thing
User48: You most likely will need to install some restricted-drivers ti get it working.
User54: ok
User54: also
User54: the Ibex livecd and wubi always froze as soon as I got to the desktop
User54: but Heron livecd works fine
User54: why?
User54: any ideas?
User48: I never use wubi.
User48: I dont reccomend wubi.
User54: i used wubi since buth Ubuntu and Kubuntu livecd's were freezing
User54: it wasn't the discs, they were fine
User54: and so were the iso's
User54: anyone?
User54: ah well
User54: hopefully someone on the forums knows
User54: cya
User46: hmm?
User55: i am having trouble with my flash and java for mozilla and or konqueror none of those applications play on my browser after downloading the plugins
User56: is there any reason that 'bash' is mandatory, or is it just a distro 'thang' ?
User57: User56 it is required for executing most of the system scripts, unless you find and install a replacement shell that behaves similarly...
User57: just plain old sh wont work for most of the scripts...
User56: so it's a distro thing then ?
User57: define "distro thing"
User56: something that the developers of the particular distrobution of linus have of their own mind deemed to be the propper corse of action for the development of the said distro
User46: well  in ubuntu/kubuntu i was thinking most all system scripts are supposed to be POSIX  - sh COmplient. so do not need bash
User56: i.e. not realated to any posix standards, nor having a particular reason accross all distros
User46: dash   is the default system shell,  (its sh standard) and bash is the default user shell. Normally
User56: Dr_willis_ i was under that impression also.   but dash is set to "optional" and bash is set to "required"
User58: ?
User46: dash is instaled by default i thought,.
User46: !info dash
User11: dash (source: dash): POSIX-compliant shell. In component main, is required. Version 0.5.4-9ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 88 kB, installed size 212 kB
User46: !info bash
User11: bash (source: bash): The GNU Bourne Again SHell. In component main, is required. Version 3.2-4ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 564 kB, installed size 1232 kB
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User56: Dr_willis_ ah,  changed in the last year.
User56: !info dash dapper
User58: è¿éæä¸­å½äººå
User11: dash (source: dash): The Debian Almquist Shell. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.3-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 81 kB, installed size 204 kB
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User59: !cn
User11: For Ubuntu help in Chinese æ¨å¯ä»¥è®¿é®ä¸­æé¢éï¼ #ubuntu-cn æè #ubuntu-tw  æè #ubuntu-hk
User46: dash was optional back then.. system shell was bash i recall..
User56: so that compounds my question even more.  if now dash is required, why is bash still required ?
User46: I recall the huge Dash vs Bash flamefests
User46: BASH is the USER shell.. not the SYSTEM SHELL
User46: :P
User46: thats why
User56: but that is definitly a "distro thang"
User46: systems scripts should be using dash, (thus be sh/posix complient)
User46: everything is a distro thing.
User56: posix is not
User46: I doubt if you would be wanting to use sh as your user shell.
User46: wether or not to follow posix is a 'disrto thing'
User56: yes it is.
User56: but the standards are not.
User46: sh is posix compinent in more ways then sh is..   is the main gist of the forums i recall reading.
User56: :)
User56: sh = sh
User56: but yeah
User46: sounds more like you are asking 'what critera' are needed for somthing to be 'required'
User46: the disrto definds bash to be the default user shell.. thus its required i guess.
User56: yes and bash in particular
User46: and it uses sh as the default system shell for speed.
User46: well iut uses dash as the sh defualt
User60: hey channel, anyone available to help me configure this tuner with sound?
User56: so it's because of the "default user shell"  that bash is still required,   ok.
User46: _2,  sounds logical to me..
User46: !info fish
User11: fish (source: fish): a friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.23.0-5 (intrepid), package size 746 kB, installed size 3700 kB
User46: :)
User46: its 'friendly!' :P
User60: using kdetv, and i've got video of live feed, but there's no sound
User56: !info tcsh
User11: tcsh (source: tcsh): TENEX C Shell, an enhanced version of Berkeley csh. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.14.00-7ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 341 kB, installed size 716 kB
User60: of course, i have a sound card, and i've got an internal cable from the tuner to the sound card's aux port/connector
User46: my old old old old tv tuner had that 'feature' dennister_  ;) its in the junk box now
User56: dennister_ i'd jump right on that.  but have no tuner cards/hardware so totally ignorant to the specifics,   sorry.
User46: you need to some how have the system play the sound comming in from the aux-in i guess...
User46: or do like i did . and run that to a seperate set of speakers
User46: years ago
User60: that's ok...yep...both sound drivers are showing up in kmix, and kdetv does have the option of using the sound card for sound
User60: User46 there are no external ports on back of tuner to connect speakers to, so it has to go through sound card
User46: ok its all internal. :) like the old  cdrom drive audio cables eh...
User46: check kmixer i guess and twiddle witht eh knobs while its tuned to tv?
User56: if using alsa you should check alsamixer   select line1 as default recording device
User60: its an asus TV-FM 7135 card, and I like it 'cause it uses the brooktree chipset...unlike my own hauppague cards that can only utilize mythtv
User60: i think kdetv has to use alsa, as that and oss are the only options for sound in kdetv's settings
User60: User56 "Select line1 as default recording device"?
User60: hold on...gotta install alsamixer yet
User56: dennister_ what ever is selected as the recording device will pipe streight into the output    (at least on dapper)
User60: on hardy here, and apt-get just returned with the message it couldn't find alsamixer
User46: !find alsa-mixer
User11: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=alsa-mixer&mode=&suite=intrepid&arch=any
User46: !find alsamixer
User11: Found: alsamixergui, gnome-alsamixer
User56: not the name of the package.   but any mixer should work
User46: the alsamizer command may allready be installed.. it has several variants. :) one is a text based curses gui
User56: while i don't have tv* i do pipe audio in/out of sound cards and the mixer settings are important.
User60: yeah...ok, alsamixer was already installed...the options for line are Line, Line Liv(greyed out), Line2Li(also greyed out) Video (now maxed amd aix (now maxed)...let's see if this works
User56: dennister_ but did you select it as recording/input device.  as opposed to the standard "mic"
User60: User56 ??? that's part of kmix, no? don't know it's an optio in alsamixer
User56: yes in the ncurses alsamixer you highlight the device and hit [space]  iirc
User60: success!!!
User46: time to watch sponge bob eh?
User46: :P
User61: Sleeps card SkyStar2 in Kubuntu 8.10
User60: i'm afraid i don't understand how to change device in ncruses alsamixer very well, so i opened up kmixer again, and unmuted 'aux', which got me sound
User60: now to fix this dvd issue...
User56: dennister_ heh  "there exists multiple methoods for the de-fur-ing of the feline"
User56: :)
User60: that's for sure, lol...i mean, i'll configure /do most of mythtv setup for this user, but it might be a little while before she can get her networking set up with a router and get her schedules direct data feed going, so I wanted her to have at least a simple tv-viewing app working
User60: she's still a linux noob ...
User56: aren't we all
User56: at least i still am.   i've only been using it for about 10 years
User60: lol...the people who say theyre noobs and have years of experience kill me... I mean, I just have 2-3 years now, but have built lots of systems
User56: Q. "what do linux users do?"
User56: A. "they install software."
User56: that was a lot funnier the first four years
User60: now that's an old one...ok, commercial dvd issue...usually it just plays with kaffeine as soon as i install libdvdcss2...here i get sound, but no video
User56: !restricted
User11: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
User56: !ubuntu-restricted-extras
User11: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
User56: pfft
User56: well, i'm going next door for a few.  chow
User62: hmm, why does adept updater want to remove"Linux Generic" when its upgradable
User63: Anyone know how to change the text color in the fuzzy clock widget?
User64: whats a good program to create a virtual drive on which i can mount an iso file?
User52: User64 you can use a loopmount to do it
User52: !loopmount
User11: Sorry, I don't know anything about loopmount
User52: hmm
User52: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
User64: thanks
User65: hi guys
User65: !version
User11: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type Â« lsb_release -a Â» in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, Â« apt-cache policy <package> Â»
User65: !upgrade
User11: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
User66: can anyone tell me how to unlock/lock the screen via CLI?
User64: !iso
User11: To mount an ISO disc image, type Â« sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> Â» - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
User65: User66 try this sudo dpkg -reconfigure-Xorg
User66: User65 I'm talking about starting up the screensaver
User65: User66 my bad
User66: User65 lol. it's all good
User66: I'm trying to configure blueproximity to work in Kubuntu
User65: not sure isaacj87
User67: Can someone explain to me, why my sound is much more quitet when on max volume in Kubuntu, than in Windows?  I have set all the things in kmixer to max but still it is not near the sound volume I can get in MS?
User66: User67 Did you try adjusting the PCM setting
User67: User66 ah I found out, it was the "Front" settings I should set up
User68: hi all
User68: i have a very wierd problem with video playback..anyone has time to help?
User66: User67 the sound is good now?
User66: User68 what's up?
User68: hi isaacj87, thx for the help :)
User68: ok so nomatter which player i use (smplayer,vlc etc..) i always get all the colors wrong when playing video
User68: the videos are all bluish with all the colors wrong
User68: it used to work perfect for a few months and suddenly it all went wrong
User68: the only thing i can think of that i chnaged latley was installing kdenlive from the PPA
User68: any idea whats going on anyone?
User66: User68 maybe a dep that got installed...
User68: mmm yeah but doesnt vlc and smplayer and dragon player all use diffrent codecs/methods for playback?
User68: ill try uninstalling it, hold on
User66: Don't quote me here, but it could be a newer version of ffmpeg that is screwing everything up
User68: mmm ok ill try uninstalling kdenlive and ffmpeg and report back in a sec
User68: thx
User68: ok removed ffmpeg and kdenlive with no results (still all videos are purplish blue..)
User66: User68 Try this...
User66: User68 sudo apt-get remove libavcodec52
User66: User68 then un-check the kdenlive PPA repo
User68: what is libavcodec52?
User68: k
User66: User68 I'm taking shots in the dark here, so bare with me lol
User68: k:)
User66: User68 Does removing libavcodec52 remove anything else?
User68: yup (already removed_
User66: User68 now do...
User66: User68 sudo apt-get clean
User68: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg libavcodec52 libavformat52 mazrim vlc vlc-nox
User68: k
User66: User68 then do..
User66: User68 sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg libavcodec52 libavformat52 mazrim vlc vlc-nox
User68: k
User66: User68 see if that helps
User68: E: Package libavcodec52 has no installation candidate
User68: is the error i get, should i just skip it?
User66: User68 sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg mazrim vlc vlc-nox
User68: k
User66: User68 hmm...apparently, you were getting all that ffmpeg crap from the PPA
User66: User68 because you don't have that repo enabled anymore, it can't install it
User68: k gotcha
User68: k installing new versions one sec
User66: User68 basically, I'm trying to see if it was the ffmpeg packages from the PPA that was screwing your video up
User68: nope...no sucess..still same video playback issue (should i try a log-out to see if it helps?)
User66: User68 yeah, couldn't hurt :/
User68: k be back in a sec
User66: User68 any luck?
User68: one sec
User68: YES
User66: is it working okay now?
User68: haleluya (or however yo spell it) :)
User68: LL
User68: yes
User68: thx alot. i guess it needed a restart
User66: User68 cool man, yeah it was the ffmpeg packages from the Kdenlive PPA that was screwing it up
User68: so yeah i guess its the new ffmpeg version that was the trouble
User68: yeah thx alot isaacj87
User66: User68 no prob :)
User68: ill post this issue in the kdenlive forums so other people dont get it
User68: later
User66: User68 good idea. take it easy
User69: hi
User70: anyone knows a solution for network performance at kubuntu 8.10, i cant even open web pages
User71: Giving away 20 world of warcraft gold for users to join our new vent server. Must stay for atleast 5 minutes to receive. Please use your WOW character name. Details: v62.darkstarllc.com:4118
User72: hi, i have a problem with wine, when i try to launch a program in it, it is lagging ; so i would want to launch it through the terminal with 'nice -n 0' but when i try "wine myprogram.exe" the program opens and closes just after ; so how can i open a program with wine with the terminal ?
User73: God Day All
User73: I have Kubuntu 8.04 and have up graded 2.6.24 23 kernel i use gdesklets how can i use the desklets and not have the shell window popup when i boot up i want the desklets clock and quote of the day to load as i get to desktop
User74: I need to install grub on the second hardisk, how can I do that?
User74: I know that hd0 is my first hardisk
User74: should consider hd1 as my second harddisk?
User74: *should I consider
User75: User74 yes
User74: dschulz, thank you, already take the risk and did it work:)
User75: cool
User76: hello ... I got many many problem with IP configuration ... I think that may be fight between KNetworkManager  and sistem configuration ....
User76: actualy ifconfig say i have 192.168.0.x conf conneted to 91.69.162.6 ....but kNetworkManager say No device found connected to 91.69.162.6
User73: i have all my wireless and every thing working
User76: after reboot system i often have proble to enter and have internet connection
User76: Have a TIps?
User74: I have problem with compiz and kde 3.5 (refresh problem), should I upgrade to kde 4.1?
User76: any tips
User74: can someone give me some feedback about it
User77: hi, Im using Kubuntu but want to use the neat "iso to usb" program to try live distributions that is found in ubuntu. Anyone have a clue how to install it in kubuntu?
User76: User74 you must to use 4.1 .... compiz have several bugs I know
User75: User76  can you check  /etc/network/interfaces file ?
User74: so, compiz work better with kde 4.1, is that so?
User76: User75 done .... I copy it in paste
User75: User74  kde4 have effects builtin kwin
User78: compiz is not included in 4.1 i dont think
User75: User76  the interfaces file should be empty
User76: User75 i got this.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/89213/ but if i roll up i find
User76: ...
User78: by defualy
User78: defalt
User75: only two lines should be present
 * blackflag is away: Zur Zeit abwesend
User75: User76  let knetworkmanager manage your configuration
User76: User75 also this
User76: http://paste.ubuntu.com/89214/
User76: User75 how can I ???
User75: User76 ok, i see.  All those lines.. were written by hand.. right?
User76: User75 yes ... but some time i have copied them ...
User79: blackflag: please turn off public away messages (at least in *buntu channels) they make a lot of people unhappy
 * blackflag is back.
User79: blackflag: and the public return messages as well ;-)
User76: User75 vi do not able me to write upon the lines showed in the first peste.bin
User75: User76  ok. I'd recommend you to backup interfaces (the file)  and let networkmanager manage your config
User76: moreover .... when i use vi. ... it said that there's another swap file ... and suggest me to recover
User75: User76  and sudo vim ?
User76: User75 vim is different from vi?
User75: User76 ahh, then just remove the swp  file in  /etc/network/
User75: User76 yes but no  ;)
User76: how to remove swp file... i don't know procedure
User2: anyone know how to solve this error ...   error 4 in libc-2.8.90.so
User75: User76   cd /etc/network
User75: User76  ls -la
User75: User76  sudo rm -i  THEFILE.swp
User76: User75 vi interfaces.bak (copy of interfaces) show only  .... http://paste.ubuntu.com/89221/ but if i roll up i find also  http://paste.ubuntu.com/89224/
User76: User75 ok dschulz i'm gonna doing what you said....
User80: help
User75: User76  this is how my interfaces file looks right now http://paste.ubuntu.com/89219/
User80: nick jonathan
User80: #nick jonathan
User80: WHOIS aib
User81: use a /
User76: User75 but you are in a lan?
User75: User76 i use knetworkmanager to manage, but networkmanager it's not desirable if you want to configure a server (for example)
User75: User76 yes, im in a lan
User75: you dont need to edit interfaces by hand if you decide to use networkmanager
User76: User75 so you empty all the field... so that KNetworkManager can manege connection... right?
User75: forget about editing /etc/network/interfaces
User75: User76 right
User76: User75 this is what i got after ls -la
User76: http://paste.ubuntu.com/89227/
User82: hi everybody
User82: help ?
User75: User76 remove the .interfaces.swp
User82: i need some
User75: User76  sudo rm -i  /etc/network/.interfaces.swp
User76: ds I clear all... and remake a file interface ... from 0
User81: Boulb: with?
User75: User76 o
User75: ok
User82: okay thanks i will explain
User75: User76  please also turn down all network interfaces
User75: User76  sudo ifdown eth0
User82: i have a problem of policy on irc with the windows user
User76: i had to clear also .swo and .bak?
User76: ok
User76: ok
User82: when i write Ã© the"y receive @c or smthg like this
User75: User76  you can safely remove those .bak also
User82: scuse me i am french i hope you understand my poor english
User81: Boulb: What irc clients are you using?
User82: konversation and chatzilla
User76: User75 to turn on eth0 then ...?
User83: hello everybody
User75: then use knetworkmanager
User81: I saw the Ã© fine. make sure you have the right fonts installed in windows
User75: or similar (if using gnome)
User76: !fr | Bouib
User11: User82 Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr
User82: yes i know, but as they are french they take a lot of time to help me
User83: srry, i need to do a question, can someone answer me?
User76: User75 ok i'm trying ... see you later ifit's all ok
User83: i need to report a bug on kde 4.2, where i have to do it?
User75: User76 ok
User82: User81  i do not understand, because i am on ubuntu not windows
User81: User82 ? So, when do you have this problem. Under Ubuntu?
User82: its easy
User84: fuck wintshit
User75: User83  bugs.kde.org ?
User85: !language | tupac
User11: User84 Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
User75: User83 #kde-devel ?
User82: i talk with some friends on an irc channel and when i write accented letter like Ã© they receive @C or ~a because they are on windows, and when they copy and paste me my @c i receive Ã©
User82: so i believe it s a problem of traduction
User81: sounds like they aren't using unicode enabled irc clients maybe?
User82: hmhm
User81: I see your Ã© fine with Konversation
User75: User82 wich windows client they use?
User82: multiscript 6.35
User82: its a friendfs of mine who make it
User75: User82 ask them to switch to kubuntu ;)
User81: agreed
User82: lol
User82: it try
User82: :))
User82: so i write on unicode, th e solution will be to change my policy with them ?
User84: windows is bulshit
User82: sure
User82: !! !
User76: User75 without exit ... I'm still here and kNM works perfectly
User76: User75 it seems to be good
User76: User75 thank you mister....
User81: It sounds like your solution would be to try  to get them to use a 'real' irc client of some kind
User75: User76 great!
User75: User76 i noted you interfaces file was a bit messed
User82: hmhm
User81: looks like any mIRC client after 6.17 can do it
User81: http://www.mirc.net/newbie/unicode.php
User86: wila
User86: dogo hola
User76: User75 I have clear all ... done interfaces file but i can't reboot now ... i have several file opened
User76: checking KNM it seems fine
User82: okay thanks you a lot for your help which was faster than the french channel, ( lool i a m french ) i will succeed !! ! will come back like good neighbour.... :)) see you soon
User75: User76 ok
User75: User76 just be aware that you can get it working by editing /etc/network/interfaces IF networkmanager doesn't works as you expect
User75: User76 but you have to edit it correctly
User81: "but you have to edit it correctly" <---- famous last words
User75: User76 next time, i'd recommend you to read the interfaces manpage  (man interfaces  @ console)
User76: User75 yes .. i agree ... but how to avoid that vi collect unwanted information in the file... when i compiled it i haven't seen that the setting are colleted up the new editing ??? I i'm sure that in that operation ... i can't edit the upper lines ...
User76: User75 using vim is better then vi?
User75: User76 you mean to avoid the .swp  and .bak ?
User75: User76 vim stands for "vi improved"
User75: User76 but im sure you are using vim, as in ubuntu "vi" is just an alias to vim
User76: User75 no ... vi interfaces show me a part of file ... only that i can change..  but rolling up if find several unwanted setting as i make you see in  http://paste.ubuntu.com/89221/ but if i roll up i find also  http://paste.ubuntu.com/89224/
User76: dsÃ¹
User76: ds
User75: User76 but it is possible you have the minimal version. There's a vim-full package
User76: User75 this is the same file...
User81: nano as an editor might be a better way to go for now
User76: the first is what it show and i can change .... the second is a rollup of the same
User87: ciao
User76: ciao mario
User76: ! it | mario
User11: User87 Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)
User75: User76  http://paste.ubuntu.com/89224/  will cause problems after rebooting
User75: User76 it looks like you have problems using vi (or vim) correctly
User76: User75 may be... :-)  but i'm sure that they were not when i wrote them...
User76: User75 ok mister .... thank you again
User75: User76  have you deleted the .swp file ?  just to be sure :)
User76: User75 yes ... but i'm going to check
User88: hi i have 2 monitors (both 1920x1200_60), how to setup clone (both monitors shows the same) ???
User75: User76  the swp files are created when you forget to close vim sessions and reboot or kill the vim program
User76: User75 no swp file presence
User75: ok
User76: User75 at the end of vi i use !wq to save
User76: User75 ehm
User76: :wq
User81: I think you mean :wq ;)
User76: :q! to quit forced , :q to quit
User75: User76 :wq  is ok, just don't forget closing vim  before rebooting
User76: ok
User88: using nvidia-setting i can set separate sreen & twinview ... they works ok... but how to setup "clone"
User75: User76  give vim the opportunity to remove its temporary files
User76: User75 ok then i reboot...
User89: hi, are plasmoids supposed to run very slow? at my machine, they often freeze or take a lot of time minimizing and such... I have newest nvidia driver and GF8600 Go (laptop card). Is it just like that, or is something wrong?
User90: THey aren't slow for me
User90: Could be graphics card drivers
User90: NVidia opnes reportedly have a lot of problems
User90: Or maybe the specific plasmoids you're using are just not very fast
User89: um.. its the taskbar ;)
User87: hi i'm a new user to Kubuntu and its so good
User90: User89 Well then not the plasmoids fault I think, taskbar is fine for me
User81: i've heard of problems with nvidia cards
User89: User90 can you possibly tell, what might be the problem? I already tried reinsalling graphics driver
User89: also, in KDE 3.5 with compiz everything was fine
User81: User89 http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=kde4+nvidia+slow
User91: hi i am new to ubuntu
User91: i am trying to install a tarball application
User89: User81 thanks, but i googled for that
User91: i have extracted it
User91: by using the tar xfvz tarball_name
User91: and now
User91: i did ./configure
User91: how shud i install it from here ...using makefile ?
User81: assuming all compiled fine a 'sudo make install' (without quotes) should install the app
User91: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/89257/
User91: here is my file list
User91: okk
User91: working on sudo make install
User90: User89 Unfortunately only thing you could really do is wait for drivers that don't completely suck from NVidia, there's instructions somewhere on how to slightly speed up KDe on NVidia cards, but dunno where they are
User91: brb
User89: User90 thanks, Ill google for it right away
User90: And you could try disable the NVidia driver and use just "nv", but then desktop effects and any 3D apps you use would become very slow and possibly unusuable
User89: it's not that bad, but I see what could be done
User81: User91 Any reason you're compiling your own instead of using apt?
User91: can i get apache using apt-get?
User81: yes
User91: how to see the whole at-get repository?
User91: apt-get*
User91: is there a site where we can see the whole library of available software
User81: using 'apt-cache search <BLAH>' will find all packages with <BLAH>
User91: kkk
User92: !ru
User11: ÐÐ¾Ð¶Ð°Ð»ÑÐ¹ÑÑÐ° Ð¿Ð¾ÑÐµÑÐ¸ÑÐµ #ubuntu-ru Ð´Ð»Ñ Ð¿Ð¾Ð»ÑÑÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ Ð¿Ð¾Ð¼Ð¾ÑÐ¸ Ð½Ð° ÑÑÑÑÐºÐ¾Ð¼ ÑÐ·ÑÐºÐµ  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
User91: let me see
User93: User91  sudo apt-get apache2
User93: User91  sudo apt-get install apache2
User91: yeah
User91: installation in progress
User91: thnx
User94: I keep getting this horrible bug, the computer completely crashes and freezes up.  It just started happening when i used kubuntu intrepid, it seems to happen when Im using alot of ram with firefox
User2: if i wanted to replace hdd with bigger one and keep all files etc... can I just tar / and then untar on bigger hdd then remove old hdd (would sdb become sda etc..) or not
User81: User2 It's not quite that simple.
User2: didn't think so
User81: You have to worry about the MBR and stuff, too
User89: User2 There is a tool called "dd" that does exact copy of a harddrive
User81: you could always just install the bigger hdd and mount it somewhere convenient
User91: i have installed apache
User91: but ...how to run and execute apache
User90: User2 Do you really need anything other than your /home directory? I mean it'd be less hassle to copy that, which would have all personall files and settings, then install everything again, than to try copy whole thing
User91: it is not being shown in the Application menu
User81: User89 But I'm sure he doesn't want the same partition tables and all...
User85: !apache | gauz, see this guide
User11: gauz, see this guide: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
User81: User91 /etc/init.d/apache2 start
User91: kk
User94: Anyone handling bugs in here?  Ive got a critical one, super bad BSOD bad
User85: !bug | g_
User11: User94 If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
User94: Im not sure what is causing the problem though how would i find out?
User2: User90 yeah lots of 'stuff' that I've installed that can't be 'apt-gett'd' - still think I'll probably just re-install and try and remeber everything I've put on etc... cheers
User85: User94 report the issue and someone will ask you for any other information needed
User94: ok
User91: it says httpd is already running
User81: Ok, your server is running then
User91: so...there is no explicit way to see as in windows ..where apache is seen commonly in taskbar
User91: got it
User91: hmm
User81: You could always 'ps aux' and look for it, I guess
User91: kk
User93: User91 http://localhost should give you a page with it works
User81: that's the easy way to check ;)
User91: yeah
User91: It works!
User91: :P
User91: to search for apt-get for php
User91: apt-cache search php
User91: is this the desired syntax?
User85: User91 if you read the guide ubottu posted it will tell you what to install
User81: yeah, you probably want mod_php though
User91: kk
User90: http://i42.tinypic.com/2cmufr8.jpg
User90: ... Wrong window
User90: But that's funny anyway IMO
User81: agreed
User91: wow
User91: the whole of lamp stack
User91: amazing!
User91: thnx
User81: User91 Welcome to 1998!
User91: :P
User91: y so
User91: ?
User81: lamp is way old
User91: kkk
User91: wats the new thing then?
User81: like... I was learning mysql and perl back around '98
User91: kk
User81: there is nothing new! It's all the same old crap in a new box
User91: any new variant ..which has come out recently?
User91: hehee
User91: okk
User95: Bonjour quelqu'un pourrai m'Aider svp ?
User85: !fr | chriys
User11: User95 Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr
User81: How do you improve on the 'webserver, language, backend' model? you don't
User91: true
User95: thank you :D
User96: Could someone refer a decent partitioning program for kde?
User97: http://hispachat.ya.com/hispachat/c565184565557565199565280.htm
User85: User96 there is qtparted
User96: thx stdin
User98: how do I manage desktop effects in kubuntu?
User99: systemsettings -> desktop settings (or whatever thats called... I'm using the German localisation.)
User98: found it, thx : -)
User99: is anyone experienced with proxy settings in wget?
User81: yes. Not me, but surely *someone* must be
User100: Hi, do you know if I need some kind of patch for my kubuntu given that I have a nvidia 8600GT graphic card and I run intrepid  ?
User99: User100 concernig drivers?
User100: User99 yes
User99: you should be able to install nvidiadrivers via the restricted drivers window...
User99: programms->system->hardware drivers
User100: User99 so far I have the 177.80 installed but still not the best result ever..
User99: ok...
User99: so whats your problem exactly?
User101: does anyone know how to get a pixart camera to work, I tried all the files and gspca does not have or make a gspca.ko file
User100: User99 some kind of micro freeze, it's not perfectly "smooth"
User99: ??
User100: User99 ?? because you don't understan what I say or because you don't understand what might be the question..??
User99: first one: what exactly is a micro freeze? (i'm german, so this might be a language proble...)
User100: User99 imagine, you have a windows poping up on your screen, from very small to full screen ok ?
User99: yaah
User99: !glx
User11: Sorry, I don't know anything about glx
User99: !nvidia
User11: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
User100: User99 well, in my case instead of having the whole thing going smoothly, then some steps are just skipped and that the feeling of a not very smooth effect
User99: so kind of lagging
User102: hi i just installed a .deb of crossover linux professional and i am unable to see it in any of my menus ? how do use it ?
User102: !crossover
User11: Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover
User100: User99 exactly
User99: User100does this always happen?
User100: User99 yeah
User99: or just when your cpu's pretty busy?
User99: enough free ram?
User100: User99 I guess...
User99: weird...
User99: you might want to switch on the fps-display...
User100: User99 yes, weird. what is fps-display ??
User102: crossover anyone ?
User99: systemsettings->desktop settings
User99: that shows you the fps of your desktop
User99: and the desktop effects respectively
User100: User99 I can also swith off desktop effects...
User102: can anyone help me with crossover issue ?
User100: User102 sorry, what is the problem ??
User99: User100well, that would probably solve your problem but disable any eyecandy-desktop effects... if your ok with that ;)
User102: User100 i just installed a .deb of crossover linux professional and i am unable to see it in any of my menus ? how do use it ?
 * Secutor is away: Gone away for now.
User100: User102 you sure there's a gui with that software ??
User102: User100 i am not sure...is there a way to start it using cli ?
User100: User102 because, if no gui, that mght explain why you don't have menu entry...
User102: User100 is there a way to start it using cli ?
User100: User102 well, actually I don't know a thing about crossover so I can't really help you
User100: !crossover
User11: Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover
User103: hi, I have install compiz (sudo apt-get install compiz) but now I need to active it and I cann't remember that step
User103: I am using kubuntu 8.10
User102: User100 ok..i'll hang around
User102: User103 search for advanced effects or ccsm
User102: User103 join #compiz-fusion
User100: by the way, do you know where is the good old kcontrol ??
User93: User102 http://www.codeweavers.com/support/docs/crossover-pro/
User93: !lamp | jirik-1
User11: jirik-1: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
User93: jirik-1: you probably don't have php installed
User104: hello, I have kubuntu running on my eee1000. If I add a USB mouse its recognized by the system (lsusb, /var/log/messages), but not from the x-server (kde 4.1). Any ideas ?
User78: i am useless to help but must ask what is an eee1000 ?
User105: I am having some trouble with unraring movies,the unraring process seems to end prematurely, get files that are 300 instead of image files of 4gb and I get no error message..anyone know any solution?
User91: what is the default folder equivalent of htdocs in windows to host php files?
User91: public_html
User91: ?
User91: where is it located?
User91: ?
User106: User91 most web stuff goes to /var/www iirc
User91: kk
User91: let me try
User107: anyone know how to use the 3g usb cards in kubuntu? I am using ibex and do not want to install gnome.
User108: Hi! So I'm running Kubuntu 08.10 with KDE4 and I noticed that windows in the task bar are not grouped by default. Is there a way to enable grouping of windows in the task bar?
User108: anyone? I tried playing with the settings and googling, but could not figure it out ...
User91: if i want to change permission for a folder
User91: chmod 755 foldername
User91: is this syntax correct?
User109: there are more ways
User91: like
User109: chmod +x a foldername
User91: kk
User91: but
User91: what does 755 mean?
User109: rwxr_xr_x
User110: execute 4= read only 3= write, execute 2= write only 1= execute only.
User109: Somebody knows kompozer ????
User110: not really
User109: is a HTML editor WYSIWYG
User109: as Macromedia (more or less)
User111: depends on the html eeditor
User111: :)
User109: somebody use this app???
User110: looked pretty decent
User109: yes, but in Kubuntu 8.10 ..
User109: the version is 0.7.10 (20080314)
User112: my panel disappeared when I was resizing it... I think it just shrunk beyond recognition, but I have no idea how to bring it back... any ideas??
User110: should be some command you can use to reset it
User109: ok, I never seen an application that get crash so many times
User109: NEVER
User109: if you want see it
User109: create a table
User81: User109 I suggest you complain loudly about it until we all set you on ignore...
 * cstoner thinks the internet needs sarcastics... they're like italics, but for sarcasm
User112: uhm... any suggestions for commands, help files, config files I might look into??
User81: User112 KDE 4.1 or 4.2beta2?
User110: try kcontrol
User112: I installed kubuntu 8.10, so I'm not sure...
User112: i don't think it was the beta...
User113: Can you install kubuntu also on a external harddrive ?
User110: yes you should be able to do that
User112: kcontrol from a terminal window??
User110: yeah
User113: because i have bought the intel atom 330 with motherboard, and all i need is power and memory and a harddrive
User110: but i don't think it will work
User110: but try it
User112: bash says that the command cannot be found...
User110: ok
User112: :\ tx though. :)
User110: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3710945&postcount=2
User110: only thing i can find about it
User112: tx LivingDead. It didn't work. Apparently, instead of kcontrol one should use systemsettings, but I can't find where to specify the system tray settings. I'll keep looking later.
User114: h, everbody. Ä± want to install amarok 2 to kde4. how?
User114: h, everbody. Ä± want to install amarok 2 to kde4. how?
User115: hi everyone
User114: hi
User114: h, everbody. Ä± want to install amarok 2 to kde4. how?
User116: hi all
User114: hi
User115: I got a little problem here: fresh installation, cant set the resolution to any reasonable values (640x480 is max)
User116: i've just logged into kubuntu after a long time, apparently adept is no longer maintained; which package manager should I use ?
User116: i'm on 8.10
User114: User116 adept is aviable on 8.10 but you can use add and remove or synaptic
User101: Happy Holidays everyone
User117: walachuriun: I had that problem until I downloaded a driver for my video card and it configured xorg.conf for me
User116: synaptic will pull in all the gnome stuff right?
User116: add and remove ? what command is that?
User101: can anyone help on a pixart camera, ??
User115: I got a GeForce 7300LE, proprietary drivers are already installed
User115: didn`t set any resolutions in the config file so I set some manually but I can`t use them
User116: adept is severely dysfunctional in 8.10
User115: and yes, of course I did restart kdm
User116: i can't search for strings in package names
User116: User115 have you tried using the nv (free) driver to see if it works ?
User118: hi  all could any1 help me to make frostwire working cos i dont know whats wrong with it its not starting
User118: plz help me
User115: not after I changed the config manually, will give it a try immediately. thanks Kream
User101: #ubuntu
User118: any1?
User78: did you restart your pc after installing frostwire?
User78: !frostwire | deamoon
User11: User118 frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
User115: Kream, using nv I now have 800x600 available... any idea what I`m doing wrong?
User78: !nvidia | Walachuriun
User11: User115 For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
User115: ok, thanks
User119: emoclew er'uoY
User119: (;
User118: YES I DID
User120: hellp
User120: hello
User120: can someone please help?
User120: I had ubuntu server running
User120: and then i installed kubuntu-desktop
User120: and x11vnc
User120: x11vnc can't start X11
User120: help!
User121: ciao
User121: !it
User11: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)
User118: thanks to cuznt
User118: for help
User118: it does work now
User78: i mearly redirected ya. :) its good shiney kharma to pass on ubuntu vibes
User118: lol
User122: !fr
User11: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr
User123: I'm exporting video from kino. Should I choose "Raw dv" or "DV AVI " ? Eventually it will go on dvd disc
User122: it's depend on the available space you've got
User122: raw take a huge place
User123: I'm ok with the space... I want the best quality
User123: what tool can I use to burn this to dvd?
User122: besk quality = raw
User122: 30go per hour...
User124: hey hi everyone
User124: anyone using kde 4.2 here?
User122: not me, kde 3.5
User124: <hell_>man datz sooo outdated
User122: i don't like kde 4 sorry...
User124: User122 y not??
User122: personnal feeling
User124: must have a reason, shldnt it?
User118: kde4.2 is relezed?
User123: 4.2 is flaky
User122: and a damn bug : with kubuntu 8.10 my computer can't turn off...
User123: I like it tho
User118: how can i get kde 4.2?
User124: siva: 4.2 is in beta 2 stage so obviosuly it has some bugs which need ironing out...
User122: you must add a depot to your sources.list
User118: i c
User123: right...
User118: how can i chemck what kde version i got?
User123: but why would they make it a major version release if it's still beta? doens't make sense
User122: SiVA_ it's not a major version for the moment
User122: it's just a beta
User124: daemon: add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu intrepid main to your /etc/apt/source.lst
User125: I have just installed Kubuntu on my Laptop but I cant get the wireless working. Not quite sure how it works. Could someone point me in the right direction please? :)
User124: siva_: who made it a major version
User123: should've been 4.2b not 4.2 but anyway.. i still like it.. I htink it's very innovative
User124: anyone been able to add non precompiled plasmoids to it?
User122: Bret do you have the wireless card detected?
User124: i can add them but they don't show up in the Add Widget dialog...
User124: bret: can you do a sudo lspci?
User125: Ah I have - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29
User118: ikamiz i cant put that link
User125: Says it's not working out of the box
User118: its not letting me
User118: y?
User125: Ah I have rev_02, not 01
User124: bret: hard luck bret, i have that too...it was working fine with kernel 2.6.27-7 but with the later kernels, i havent had much luck
User124: and im using the laptop at home mailnly these days anyway, so never bothered to really look into it.
User125: What, so it won't work at all? Dang, I'm sure it worked with Ubuntu, I'll change to that then
User124: i guess you could try blacklisting the native drivers and going for ndiswrapper!
User125: Thanks anyway
User125: Hm
User125: Problem is I don't know how :)
User126: my laptop and pc are connected to the same router, how can I sned files using konqueror or something??
User124: User118 wot did u add?
User122: Guest47628 use samba
User126: hell:  do you have any recomendation to read
User124: google?
User126: User124 really? thanks :-)=
User125: ikazmi2, what would be easier. ndiswrapper or just uninstalling and installing ubuntu. I used wubi so, should be easy
User118: http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu
User125: ill just install ubuntu no worries, thanks for your help
User124: bret: ndiswrapper should be easier
User125: Are there any tutorials and is it likely to work?
User124: User118 its "http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu intrepid main"
User124: intrepid main is included
User118: oh
User118: i c
User124: bret: well i used it with kubuntu 8.04 for a couple of months and it never gave me any problems
User118: ikami2 well i cant put it anyways
User118: im doing it througt software sources
User124: relic: im using kde 4.2 beta 2 since yesterday, it hasnt auto locked for me so far
User124: relic: which little icons?
User127: ciao
User127: a tt
User128: hello, I have some trouble connecting to my wireless network with kubuntu 8.10. here is a paste of ifconfig, interface and nm-system-settings.conf : http://pastebin.com/m747f2afa . Can you please help me
User129: Hi every1!!! How can i Set my Proxy and Port settings for Adept??
User124: Relic: i dont use that sensor program :(
User130: Hisham, I think it just uses the bash environment variables (or maybe the kde settings)
User130: Hisham, so either in /etc/environment put a line that reads http_proxy=http://yourproxy:8080 etc, or go in the kde network settings and put it in
User130: Hisham, if you need to use a socks proxy, get a program called tsocks
User78: !adept | Hisham
User11: User129 adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
User130: cuznt, that has no information on proxies D:
User78: right on
 * cuznt makes another mental note
User93: !wireless | ubuntoil
User11: User128 Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
User78: anyone have a mental erasur?
User127: ciao a tutti
User127: chi mi sa dire
User127: come configuro kubutnu per
User127: la rete
User127: ?
User131: !it | federico
User11: User127 Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)
User127: ok
User113: http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=160287516222  guys what do you think of this motherboard and cpu
User132: I know how to create a user from the terminal, but how can I set the password to him?
User132: I did find it..
User132: passwd:)
User113: Relic, i am not aiming at a high energy usage
User113: either do i have that money, i am planning to add to the dual core atom 2 gb memory and a 500 gb harddrive
User124: anyone with a solution for installed plasmoids not showing up in the "Add Widget"
User113: [Relic] My goal is to create a small costum system with minimal energy use
User124: Relic: that is working fr everyone in kde 4.1
User124: im tryin the plasmoid-wolfplay
User124: seems pretty cool
User124: so id like to try it
User113: [Relic] No but i checked some other sites, and the atom 330 is the best off its kind
User124: oops dat was playwolf :)...my bad
User113: yes ofcourse
User124: heh 2G ram is pretty much enough fer linux...its not vista he is trying to run!
User113: Vista runs fine on it, stated in reviews
User124: welsey, wot are u planning to run on it
User113: I know, i wanna run kubuntu ( which i run now to )
User124: wesley, then u are safe man
User128: can you please at least tell me If I should have in nm-system-settings.conf managed = true or false if I want the knetworkmanager to manage all the network...
User133: Alright so im basically an Ubuntu virgin...and i need help.  i have a pop up saying "unlock keyring" whenever i try to acess Evolution mail
User128: wright : password ??
User133: and since it started asking me yesterday for the Keyring thing, it hasnt received any mail, it can only send.  any ideas?
User124: User133 lol at the start bit of ur msg :)
User124: User133 yeh, as ubuntoil said enter the pwd
User133: i know my password, but it hasnt asked for it the whole 2 weeks+ I have had Ubuntu...until yesterday morning
User133: and now it doesnt receive the new emails through Evolution it just sends...
User124: User133 wait, are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
User133: ummm...Well I installed Ubuntu, but after an Update it loads Kubuntu
User133: when i start up the computer it says "Kubuntu" now in the pruple/ble letters
User133: blue*
User124: User133 u chose to install kde then?
User133: yea
User133: it appears so.  Becuase I had both Kubuntu and Ubuntu disks, used them to just view which one i liked, and Chose Ubuntu, but then installed KDE through 'Synaptic Package Manager'
User134: Is there a way to install kubuntu and use a ubuntu home backup?
User128: does anyoe have a clue about nm-ssystem-setting.conf ??
User133: it just seemed odd to me that after it started to ask for the Keyring it wont receive any emails, it can only send.
User124: User128 sorry mate, i wldve loved to help but no idea
User57: User134 you can bind the home directory of your ubuntu install to your kubuntu install by mounting it using '--bind'... however, you can also install kde on ubuntu which is a much better way...
User124: User133 u chose gnome over kde? the blasphemy :p
User128: ikazmi2 : damn....I will never figure out that $^%$
User124: Omolkane__: install gtk, i guess
User133: well like i said, im an ubuntu virgin...so i just thought id check it out
User135: Hey!. Im using kde 4.2 beta 2 on kubuntu 8.10. If i interact with certain plasma components, for example pres alt-tab, applications will no longer resieve keyboard input and mouse input is screwed up as well. i have tried to remove .kde and .kderc but no luck
User134: desu just uninstall compiz and install KDE?
User133: im just really confused and my local computer guys have no idea cuz all the do is Windows/Mac
User57: User134 if you dont want compiz, sure, you can uninstall it... but uninstallation is not required... just do a `sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and you'll get kde as one of the session options while logging in
User124: tue: i just tried alt-tab, nothing cool like no keyboard happened :(
User57: you can also use compiz instead of kwin while on kde, though...
User135: User124 im sure its not a kde bug per see, must be a configuration issue of some sort. just cant figure it out :-(
User124: tue: do u have compiz?
User124: User133 cld it be that your evolution settings are wrong?
User133: i doubt it.  It never asked for this until yesterday morning.
User133: i have rechecked all the settings...its  POP3 and i know the mail server
User135: User124 no
User124: User133 did u install any updates?
User66: hey all, is there any fix for kbluetooth4 yet?
User135: User124 i think its definately related to plasma or kwin. as long as i dont use krunner, alt-tab and that kind of stuff everything works
User133: yea...hold on il ltell you.
User124: tue: cant say why it would be happenin mate :(...
User136: 0/win 21
User136: sorry
User133: Kubuntu-default-settings, kubuntu-desktop (and the desktop hasnt changed...), kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts, kubuntu-docs, kubuntu-artwork-usplash, kubuntu-artwork-kbfx, kubuntu-grub-splashimages, kubuntu-restricted-extras, language-selector-qt, and kmformat
User133: yea, just those
User124: it could be somethng in the default settings
User133: hmmm....
User133: i just got this: You might be using a different display manager, such as KDM (KDE Display Manager), CDE login (dtlogin), or xdm. If you wish to use this feature, then your system will need to be configured to use GDM inste
User133: shiiiit this is so complicated haha
User124: User133 wot wur u doing?
User133: just trying some stuff...
User133: i was going through Konqueror and boom that came up
User124: wrigth: well kdm is the display manager for kde, gdm for gnome
User133: how do i switch to kdm?
User133: or to gdm for that matteR?
User124: i think u already are using kdm
User133: how would i switch to gdm if i wanted?
User133: because it told me "you arent in...you should run gdm"
User137: how can I know when an app (FF) will be upgraded ( I need 3.1.b2 at least) ?
User124: User133 depends on wot u did/wur trying to do
User138: buenas tardes
User133: oh ok
User133: ill just leave it like it is then
User138: help spanish ?
User138: help spanish ubuntu ?
User66: !es | violator
User11: User138 En la mayorÃ­a de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglÃ©s. Para ayuda en EspaÃ±ol, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
User138: ok gracias
User66: de nada :)
User133: thank you all who have helped
User124: and failed :)
User139: bjour
User124: bonjour
User140: good evening everybody
User92: !ru
User11: ÐÐ¾Ð¶Ð°Ð»ÑÐ¹ÑÑÐ° Ð¿Ð¾ÑÐµÑÐ¸ÑÐµ #ubuntu-ru Ð´Ð»Ñ Ð¿Ð¾Ð»ÑÑÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ Ð¿Ð¾Ð¼Ð¾ÑÐ¸ Ð½Ð° ÑÑÑÑÐºÐ¾Ð¼ ÑÐ·ÑÐºÐµ  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
User141: hello everyone! kubuntu is awesome)
User49: hello
User49: does anyone have any experience with k3b cd recording?
User142: did anyone use pulseaudio to stream sount from linux to a windows machine?
User143: k3b cd
User143: works ok for me pulaski.
User55: what do i need to change my bootsplash on kde 8.10 or where do i go
User55: or i should specify the splash screen after the grub boot the one before you come to your login screen
User49: hi michael__thanks for responding,  When I create a new project and drag .ogg files down to the current project window k3b inserts the name and title of a previous file I recorded in the name and title of that .ogg file. Is there a default k3b behavior that I can change that will insert the current name and title?
User144: hello?
User55: hola
User145: Hi! I'm looking for a way to hide the task bar to the left or the right - as was possible in KDE3. Is there a way to achieve this? (Autohide would do, too - but any tutorials I found seemed to apply only to other distributions)
User93: User145 I don't think authiding is available in your version of kde4. It has been added in for the next release.
User145: cadoo: What about the arrows at the left and the right to hide it in either direction?
User145: ^sorry, cadooo, of course
User57: User55 look at the example theme sources provided with the usplash packages... modify it to suite your needs... there's also a README in there which will help you set everything up
User55: i already got it thanks
User93: User145 I'm not sure I'm running the latest version of kde4 and it's not here. probably best to ask in #kde
User145: User93 Ok, I'll try there. Thanks a lot for your help! (Btw, before somebody gets me wrong -- I am absolutely in awe of the new kubuntu :-) Hiding the task bar would just be iceing)
User146: howdy
User147: anyone updated to konversation 1.1 yet?
User148: User147 I have it, why?
User146: User147 using 1.1 as we speak,,,works great
User147: is it in repos yet...tried to go thru how web site said...and no luck on install
User147: i suck @ .tar files but after running ./configure....gives me this error....make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
User146: which kubuntu version are you using, mrksbrd ?
User147: 3.5
User146: User147 you need to instll build-essential
User148: it's in Intrepid Main, too
User146: on 8.04 then
User147: ok will check to make sure package is installed
User146: kde4 is the default on kubuntu 8.10
User147: yea
User149: buenas otra vez xD
User149: ya se fue juan ?
User147: can't get 8.10 to work on my laptop right...sticking with 8.04 for now
User149: #ubuntu.es
User148: !es | Boris666
User11: User149 En la mayorÃ­a de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglÃ©s. Para ayuda en EspaÃ±ol, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
User149: help spanish
User146: !es
User149: ok tank
User147: thanks BluesKaj
User150: !list
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User65: hey guys
User151: i would just like to say penis fucker
User152: !op
User11: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, genii, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, Pici or jussi01!
User151: sorry
User151: DaSkreech, is a dibba dobba
User153: hi
User153: can anybody help me to play DVD's in ubuntu?
User152: !dvd
User11: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
User153: i've already downloaded the restricted drivers
User153: but i'm not able to play dvd's yet
User152: Restricted Formats
User152: not restricted Drivers
User153: yes
User153: that
User153: i've got confused
User153: but, yes i've install them
User153: do i have to reboot?
User152: User153 You shouldn't have to. Just restart the application
User153: i've did it
User153: with totem movie player
User153: also tried with vlc movie player
User153: neither of them are able to play the dvd
User152: What did you follow?
User153: i did this ;sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
User152: Can you see if you have libdvdread3 installed ?
User152: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
User152: What does that say when you put it in the terminal ?
User153: well, it came a lot of text for the installation
User152: Are you on Ibex?
User153: ubuntu
User152: :-) Which version?
User153: ok is a long story
User153: i tried to mount a raid
User152: Before the long story :)
User153: hehehe
User152: Do you know what version of Ubuntu you are on?
User153: well, to mount the raid i had to install ubuntu server 8
User153: then
User152: ok
User153: i just put sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
User153: i supposed is the most recent one
User153: but i haven't notice wich is
User152: is that 8.04 or 8.10 ?
User154: no Ubuntu-Destop package is the same as your installation
User153: let me see...
User152: lsb_release -a
User152: will tell you
User154: to get a different version you need to apt-get dist-upgrade
User152: User154 That's fine :)
User153: 8.04 hardy
User154: (or install a new one ontop)
User152: User153 Ah ok try sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
User153: thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
User153: it works! it works!
User153: muaaaackkkk!!!!!
User153: thanks DaSkreech
User152: Sure
User155: !compiz-fusion
User11: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion
User153: is perrrrrfectttt!
User156: !ru
User11: ÐÐ¾Ð¶Ð°Ð»ÑÐ¹ÑÑÐ° Ð¿Ð¾ÑÐµÑÐ¸ÑÐµ #ubuntu-ru Ð´Ð»Ñ Ð¿Ð¾Ð»ÑÑÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ Ð¿Ð¾Ð¼Ð¾ÑÐ¸ Ð½Ð° ÑÑÑÑÐºÐ¾Ð¼ ÑÐ·ÑÐºÐµ  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
User25: !de
User11: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, und #edubuntu-de
User25: !es
User11: En la mayorÃ­a de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglÃ©s. Para ayuda en EspaÃ±ol, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
User25: !sk
User11: Å½iadame slovenskÃ½ch pouÅ¾Ã­vateÄ¾ov aby v kanÃ¡li #ubuntu hovorili po anglicky. Slovensky a Äesky sa dohovorÃ­te v #ubuntu-cz.
User25: !pl
User11: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
User157: Hmmm..
User152: I agree
User140: I  don't
User90: You're both wrong
User152: tue
User157: Moo?
User158: hey, is there a way to install a svn snapshot of amsn using apt-get??
User158: I can build the deb and use dpkg to install it, but that is not exactly what I want... (actually I want something already compiled)
User90: Nope, unless you can find a repo which will have an SVN snapshot built, which is very unlikely
User158: ok, thanks.
User158: I guess I'll script the compile then... :P
User152: User157 Baa Umm i mean Bah!
User152: User158 That's more like a source based distro Look into Sourcemagic or gentoo
User158: User152 I actually use kubuntu 8.10, but I'm having problems with the webcam, and svn version of amsn has it solved..
User152: User158 make a deb and install it would be my solution for now
User152: Or compile in a seperate dir and link the output of <which amsn> to it
User155: the shorcuts I set on the menu editor for some application do not work..
User155: just to make a test, how can I display de kmenu using the keyboard
User155: is alt-f1 right?
User152: yes
User155: doesnt work... where can be my problem?
User155: I am using 8.10
User155: on my laptop and pc is the same problem
User27: ola
User152: User155 Probably not in your config settings
User155: Daskreech: are you using 8.10? if yes? does it work for you?
User152: I'm using 8.10 and it doesn't work for me since I did dist-upgrade if you did a clean install it should work. It's a few lines in the plasma-appletsrc file
User155: yes, it is a clean install from today actually..but doesnt work.. the same problem with my pc
User155: daskreech: can I fix this problem changing the plasma-appletsrc file?
User152: yeah
User155: daskreech: can you guide my a bit please..
User159: ola
User152: User159 Hi
User155: guest85127: hola
User152: User155 Ok give me a moment can you pastbin the file in the meantime?
User159: olaz
User159: necesito ayuda
User1: !es
User11: En la mayorÃ­a de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglÃ©s. Para ayuda en EspaÃ±ol, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
User155: daskreech: thanks..I'll wait
User155: guest85127: what's you problem
User152: User155 Pastebin :)
User160: does kubuntu also offer 3D desktop features?
User152: Yes
User158: compiz?
User155: daskreech: can you give me the link
User90: KDE4 has it's own effects
User152: !paste
User11: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
User152: Though you can use compiz if you want
User152: Just more and more there is less reason to do so
User155: daskreech where is the fie
User160: because I think having 3D desktop is realy innovative. Also is Firefox, OpenOfficeorg and Blender preinstalled in the latest Kubuntu?
User152: User155 ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
User152: No
User152: One command to install firefox and blender though
User155: daskreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/89553/
User160: yeah but planned to run it as live CD mode, and not always sure if I have internet available
User160: Thought about making a custom iso but not experienced enough and rather have an 'official' live CD :)
User160: thanks for the info though
User152: User160 Put the debs on a USB drive
User160: probably means I have to continue my search :) (Yeah, found another cool distro that is able to continue boot from USB drive or hdd so cd drive can be used running in live mode
User152: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install firefox blender && sudo cp /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb /path/to/USB
User152: User160 Openoffice is already installed but not the latest version
User160: im unexperienced and also probably show it to non linux users... getting apps from repository might be over our heads for the time being. Just a cool way to demo linux :)
User152: User155 Yours sould work You have it in there already
User152: User160 That's to put it on the USB drive
User161: how can I send a html in kmail using inline images?
User155: daskreech: well, doesnt work for me alt-f1 or any shortcut I try to configurate using the menu editor
User152: I can give you a script you can keep in the same dir so that when you want you can just run it and it will install firefox and blender from the USB drive for you
User152: User155 There is no GUI for shortcuts in Plasma yet so GUI wouldnt work
User160: User152 sounds like thats for more experienced users. I just put the cd in and play around without any other technicalities. Sounds I need some custom ISO or something to have all the apps we windows users know and use and can get playing right away. Tech stuff comes later I guess
User152: User160 Well if you know the apps you want As I said you can just put htem on a USB drive and carry them with you
User162: try scripting windows to install firefox and other things automatically... :) it can be  a pain
User162: at least its fairly easy under linuyx
User152: If you have no Internet plugin the USB drive click the script and you hve the applications there
User155: daskreech: the "menu editor" in any application->advance->shortcut ... so, I didn't think this shoud not work if is there
User152: User162 No it's not that bad as long as you doit at install time
User158: yay... svn amsn works with webcam :-D
User160: User152 I appriciate the thought not I have 0.1% experience with Linux in general :)
User152: User155 It works for most things :) just not for plasma yet
User152: User158 Whoot
User162: Heh last few windows machines ive worked on.. the first powwer up/boot seems to take an hr+ for windows to configure itself the first time..
User162: its getting scary how long it tales me from Unboxing a new windows machine.. to actually being able to use it.
User160: lol
User160: sounds like a mac fan :)
User162: sadly i am SERIOUS..   Wifes new LAptop -> an hr for the first boot.. then wow. NO  restore media.. another 2 hrs to burn them to dvd...
User162: THEN its ready for her to play her PopCap Games
User152: User162 an hour and a half for me
User162: :P
User160: setup takes bloody ages yes. lucky thats a one time process :)
User155: daskreech: after the bad news... can I still think at least about alt-f1 ?? :)
User162: I will admit this AcerAspireOne has a restore partiion. I can rextore XP from it in 5 min... but thenthat first boot/config again.. takes 30+ min...
User152: User155 try kquitapp plasma; plasma
User162: brb
 * LOGAN just has the CD, just to be sure :D Oh and cudos to the new printed Kubuntu CD
User152: User162 I can install a brand new linux install in less time than that and with ~ partition I have all my data and settings
User162: yep.
User162: oh wait.. I just installed some Kodak Photo software for the wife... GOlly I HAVE to reboot.. Nice windowqs.. nice...
User162: :)
User162: brb
User160: im scared partition a drive that has already a running OS on it
 * LOGAN shivers
User160: and I need more space, maybe a new HDD :(
User152: User160 Sure that's reasonable I guess
User152: User160 You can use wubi as well That will install linux as a windows program
User152: No partitioning
User160: Yeah sounds cool but am weary if it might be slower
User160: (but faster than running from CD i assume
User152: Well you can try it for a week if you don't like it you can remove it from add/remove programs in Windows
 * DaSkreech gets ready to pounce Dr_Willis on his return
 * genii hands DaSkreech a coffee
 * DaSkreech slurps and gets wired
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