User1: More oom
User2: hi mazal  barrydk  inetpro  MaNI  Squirm  and others
User1: How goes ?
User2: good ty and you?
User1: Okish
User2: is the lappy fixed?
User1: Yeah it connected straight away this morning , so don't know what was it's problem yesterday
User2: lol
User1: Only thing I did before I left yesterday was to remove and retype the password in the config. Maybe there was a typo there yesterday
User1: With my spelling and typing it is highly likely
User2: aha
User2: i try copy paste everything ,especially if peeps give links or commands
User2: and you blamed me and my kde
User2: sies man
User3: mornings
User4: morning
User1: Is your kde Kilos !!
User1: Must be lol
User1: morning ThatGraemeGuy , MaNI
User2: lol
User2: hi ThatGraemeGuy
User1: ThatGraemeGuy agrees :)
User2: haha
User2: oh ami ThatGraemeGuy  does the little guy sleep on his back?
User3: he sleeps wherever he likes
User3: some mornings i find him curled up in a ball at the foot of the bed, blankets and pillow piled in the opposite corner
User3: he's very strange
User3: like his mommy
User3: :-D
User2: lol
User3: but yeah, mostly he does sleep on his back or on his side
User2: i was thinking if he slept on his back then the coughing at that early hour could be from post nasal drip
User2: then you gotta cough your lungs clear
User2: happens to me
User1: I sound like a tractor every morning , but I know why
User3: it pretty much is, if i prop him up and he's still sleepy enough then he'll go back to sleep and it stops in 5 minutes
User2: but if you sleep on your side then you can delay the coughing till wake up time
User1: User2 Just one thing left to figure out
User2: yes mazal  ?
User1: Why my prntscrn doesn't activate the snapshot app
User2: did you got to that 20 things to do after installing kubuntu 14.04
User1: Problem is not the FN function , the rest works ( screen brightness etc. that is also working with that key )
User2: s/got/go
User1: The one you gave me ?
User1: That is all done
User2: ok
User1: Except the ones I don't want like skype for ex
User2: there is a place you can see and change keyboard shortcuts
User2: in settings
User2: like i use ctrl+t to open konsoles
User1: You mean I must map print screen to another key ?
User2: most likely or even map it to the print screen key
User1: I know how to map apps to keys , but how do you map a command like print screen ?
User2: i dont know about kde but ubuntu has a slightly different iso for lappies and desktops
User3: since when? :-o
User1: Really ?
User3: no, not really, he's confused
User1: What app can I test webcam with ?
User3: sudo apt-get install cheese
User2: when i got an iso from the toaster back in 10.10 i think it was the fresh install looked different from the desktop download
User3: you realise that was 5 years ago
User3: which is 57 years in Internet time
User2: oh my
User1: Installing cheese
User2: so there is no diffs?
User1: And for some reason now lus for a toasted cheese sandwich :P
User3: lol
User2: wbb
User1: Ag nee , a system restart is required
User2: haha
User2: nice fast reboot
User1: Nah , is slow
User1: Laptops can't come close to desktop pc's performance
User2: normally konversation takes a while to see peeps
User2: specs?
User1: i7
User2: sjoe lekker
User2: ram?
User1: pc was much faster though , always is
 * mazal tries to find the system info
User1: 4gig ram , I wanted to see the gen of the cpu , but system info don't show it
User1: I suspect 3rd gen
User2: i forget all those commands
User2: lshw
User3: lol
User3: there are plenty of quick laptops
User2: im waiting for ian to come visit, he says he has an i5 i can use for loadshedding
User2: need to buy a battery though
User3: and don't forget an SSD
User3: battery life++
User3: I can use my laptop 5-6 hours easy
User3: and its nearly 2 years old already
User2: once i have a working lappy then i can saved for a ssd
User2: wow
User3: spinning rust HDDs are massive power hogs
User2: lol they dont rust inside man
User2: they spotless inside\
User3: (not meant literally, duh)
User2: lol
User2: moving parts are hogs though ya
User2: shh is same like ram right
User2: ssd
User4: similar but keeps data when powered off and not as fast :p
User3: lol
User2: ah is ram actually faster
User3: i.e. similar except completely different
User3: exponentially faster
User2: sjoe
User3: ram is your first upgrade when you're going "waaaahhh! my PC is slow"
User4: sadly yes, or else we could all just have giant ssd swap partitions and go crazy :)
User3: second is put in an SSD
User3: third, there is no third, that's all you need
User2: lol
User3: and no, you don't need a new CPU
User3: we've been through that, the case is closed
User4: bigger CPU cache never hurts :)
 * ThatGraemeGuy leaves
User2: i have other things eating cash before i get faster pc stuff
User2: like soldering station
User2: then battery for lappy
User5: Morning everyone
User1: Oom Kilos , do you have a volume control on you bar at the bottom ?
User1: I don't find one
User2: ya
User2: opens when you click it
User2: kmix i think it is
User1: There is no icon , and there is no widget I can add
User1: This is strange
User2: ai!
User2: there must be a way
User1: Got it
User2: haha
User1: I think I checked and tested everything for now
User2: good then just use it , dont look for things to break
User1: Only thing still not working is the multimedia buttons
User1: Or shortcut buttons I should say
User1: Volume up and down works. Email and internet doesn't
User2: what internet?
User2: how can email work anyway without internet
User1: The sortcut buttons. This laptop has buttons at the top with shortcut to different things
User2: ai!
User1: email , internet , wi-fi , mute , volume up , volume down , calculator
User2: oh actually i am using a genius keyboard that has some extra buttons too
User1: The 3 that must launch apps ( email , internet and calculator ) doesn't work
User2: www is one of them
User6: morning all
User2: sorry, ran out of data
User7: Good morning
User2: hi gremble  Cryterion
User8: Morning
User2: hi kulelu88
User9: Hello
User10: Hi Kilos
User2: hi Langjan  hoe gaan dit ?
User10: Als wel dankie en met jou?
User2: goed dankie
User10: Mooi so! Help asb...
User2: wat het jy gebreek?
User2: haha
User10: niks nie, lmga
User2: vra maar laat ons sien
User10: How do I configure Libre Office to do special characters via keyboard?
User2: sjoe
User2: doesnt your compose key work there
User10: ek dog jy weet...?
User2: ek weet als behalwe wat ek vergeet het
User10: Mine woks via right alt but I cant remember how I got there
User10: works
User7: I think that it is supposed to work by default
User2: hmm... you on unity
User7: It is standard behaviour for text editors and wordprocessors
User2: i have set mine as the left windows key
User2: Langjan  http://askubuntu.com/questions/70784/how-can-i-enable-compose-key
User10: Ok thka let me go there. QWill get back if dont come right
User7: Welp. Apparently I was mistaken
User2: anytime sir
User2: gremble  i can almost call him oom
User9: oom and oupa
User2: haha he is 8 years and 2 months older than me
User2: if i leave off the 2 months he jumps on me
User7: You've mentioned that Kilos haha
User10: Ok Kilos many thanks, its sorted. And you're a star as always, dankie baie van Oompie, ek het my vriend daarmee gehelp.
User10: Thks also gremble
User10: take care you guys
User7: Haha I didn't do anything except say dumb things :P
User7: Take care Langjan
User2: haha he is doing a great job spreading ubuntu amongst the ballies
User2: hi drussell  hows davey?
User9: We're still waiting on gremble and the tuxlug
User2: kulelu88  you are with the jozilug peeps right?
User9: not formally, but I try to hulp hulle
User9: remember hulp and help in school in afrikaans. That was like a killer-feature of afrikaans
User7: You used it incorrectly though :P
User2: we discussed in a meeting that we need to work closer with lugs
User7: hulp is the noun and help is the verb
User7: User9 I forgot about that :x I'll get on it next semester
User11: User2 yoyo :o) good thanks, you?
User7: It'll go on my to-do board
User2: good ty drussell
User9: next semester ... said every student ever!!!
User7: Haha
User2: maybe i should make some smileys for all the times i forget
User2: :) :D
User7: 8-|
User9: omg, Kilos is using emotes. #nolook
User9: say hellooo to my leeetttllle friend: (ââ _â )--ï¸»â¦â¤â - - - (â¥ï¹â¥)
User9: pew pew pew
User7: My grandmother has started using whatsapp. Whenever she sends me a message it is with a nonsensical emote
User7: haha
User9: whatsapp is basically the facebook of this decade. Everyone has it
User2: haha
User7: #telegram4lyfe
User7: I really like telegram actually
User7: I especially like that fact that it is has a native PC client
User9: You do know you can't trust telegram either right?
User7: Can't trust shit
User7: But I am not going to write my own messaging app and I need to communicate with people
User9: try an app called blackphone or something similar
User7: I know of blackphone, but thats not an app iirc. It's an entire environment
User9: leme find the name of it for you
User7: Blackphone is an entire phone
User7: I also know that the first one was compromised on def con
User9: User7 https://whispersystems.org/
User7: An enhanced privacy feature is the fact that if I use that to communicate, I would have no one to communicate with
User7: It does look nice though
User9: hahahaha. exactly. always the problem with mass-scale
User12: good mornings
User7: Hey inetpro
User7: Odd that you are awake kulelu88. I thought you only came out danderson@example.com. I was starting to suspect that you were a wearwolf or wanpire
User9: User7 I am suffering from time-adjustment issues. I slept at 10pm last night and awake since 6am this morning
User7: Haha
User7: It is always a pain that if you go to sleep at a reasonable time, you tend to wake up at such a time
User9: yeah and this weather is not conducive for bowel-relief, at any time of day
User7: You should take a blanket with to keep your legs warm
User9: ehh I'll get an anxiety attack carrying a blanket in the pot
User7: Scared you'll poop on it?
User9: it just doesn't feel natural
User9: blanket in the loo
User7: You say that
User7: But I don't think you've ever tried that
User1: User9 Not everyone , I removed whatsapp long ago already
User9: my nokia doesn't support any modern apps, so I'm stuck with whatsapp :P
User1: I am still old school , cheap old fone that can call and sms and that's it
User9: only problem is that, that is expensive
User1: I only use it when it's neccesary , don't even go over R60 per month. I am not like others glued to the phone all day
User1: If I wonna chat I do it with pc.
User1: And if I wonna have a conversation I go visit my friends and actually have contact with them
User9: You use R60 a month??? :O I use R15 :D :D :D
User9: campus teaches you to be a miser!!!
User1: This so called social media is actually anti-social media. People don't even visit each other as much anymore
User1: A family sits at the table and each one is busy on his fone. Nobody even talk to each other
User9: User1 sometimes I think people don't like other people coming to their house also. cause entertaining is hard these days. gotta make so much food/variety/etc
User7: Families have been ignoring eachother for much longer than cellphones have been around
User9: :D :D
User2: lol
User1: You don't need to "entertain". My nicest longest chats with friends was over just cookies and coffee
User9: You know what was really fun though. Was a code-retreat I went for. Loads of coffee and pair-programming
User4: programmer coffee stereotype makes me cringe :(
User7: bleh
User7: If I didn't know better I would say my bandwidth is being throttled
User13: good afternoon
User7: Hey magespawn
User2: hi magespawn
User7: Did you get complements on your fantastically shined shoes?
User2: rofl
User14: Good day people
User7: Hey Squirm
User2: hi Squirm
User13: gremble not that kind of leather
User13: but they are looking a lot nicer
User7: "1936 - Alonzo Church also invents every language that will ever be but does it better. His lambda calculus is ignored because it is insufficiently C-like. This criticism occurs in spite of the fact that C has not been invented."
User7: Lol
User7: "1972 - Dennis Ritchie invents a powerful gun that shoots both fowarwad and backward simultaneously. Not satisfied with the number of deaths and permanent maimings from that invention he invents C and Unix."
User7: james-iry.blogspot.nl/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-mostly-wrong.html
User13: User7 how would they compare it? os is there something i am missing
User13: s/os/or
User7: User13 it is a joke
User7: from the above blog
User7: about programming languages
User1: Bye everyone
User5: Lekker slaap almal
User13: gremble i see from the comments that i am not the only on that did not get it was a joke intially
User7: Haha perhaps I'm just very easily entertained
User7: :P
User13: it is quite funny
User13: chat later home time bye
User2: oh my , and there is who_da_fly
User2: bbl
User2: hmm...
User2: mani guesting us
User4: meh
User2: lol
User4: don't know why it takes so long for my nick to auto release
User4: I wonder if its to do with the 300+ failed attempts to steal my nick I get every day :/
User2: wow
User2: you have registered it hey?
User4: of course
User2: then go to #freenode and ask staff to cloak you
User2: your ip shows still
User4: I'm not worried about my ip showing
User2: i think they offer the cloak for a good reason
User2: maybe makes it harder to get to you
User4: I'm sure they do, but I'm still not worried, my computer security levels are above paranoid :p
User2: lol
User4: the nick stealing thing is just an annoyance
User2: i got a double cloak i think
User4: -SaslServ- <sasl> failed to login to MaNI.  There have been 62 failed login attempts since your last successful login. <- I get 100s of those every day
User4: there is no way they will ever succeed I'm using a really long keepass password
User2: wow how do you find that info?
User4: wish I could tell the person to stop trying :p
User2: is it the same guy all the time
User4: no idea how to query it - saslserv just tells me about it as it happens, so I get those messages showing up all over in my chat window :p
User2: wow
User4: well sasl is basically a 'tor' log in service, its anonymous so there is no way of knowing
User4: I mean I assume its some guy running an automated script to try get this nick but I don't know for sure :p
User2: maybe freenode staff can find him and blacklist him
User2: it might be a bot too
User4: heh, I asked them before, they just told me to make sure I have a secure password :/
User2: lol
User4: not really a big issue just a bit annoying to see it come up all the time
User2: yeah
User4: it would take literally forever to brute force the password at this speed
User2: sjoe
User4: I mean it could just be some irc client on a server somewhere stuck in a loop even, same wrong password each time, who knows :p
User2: i would be able to sleep till i found it
User2: wouldnt
User4: OCD :P
User2: when i first joined here my nick was stolen in 2 days because i didnt know about registering even
 * Squirm lewks around
User2: hi Squirm
User14: haaai
User4: Registered : Aug 24 00:19:08 2004 (10y 44w 5d ago) - I'd be pretty miffed if I lost it now :p
User2: wow
User2: you been in the game a long time hey
User14: Registered : Sep 26 21:43:41 2009 (5y 39w 5d ago)
User2: i didnt even have a pc yet
User14: You win
User2: how do you get that info
User14: msg nickserv info
User14: the a / at the beginnigh
User2: im a baby here
User2: Registered : Nov 09 21:22:49 2009 (5y 33w 3d ago)
User14: Registered : Nov 09 21:22:49 2009 (5y 33w 3d ago)
User14: I beat you!
User14: By 3 weeks :D
User2: hehe
User2: you remember how i battled to get mxit going in pidgin
User14: How could i forget ;)
User2: haha
User14: was that 5 years ago??
User2: you have all been good to me
User2: yeah
User2: time flies
User14: Wow
User2: you were still in school
User14: I've only been on IRC for about 10 years now
User14: 2005/2006
User2: sjoe
User2: hmm...
User2: the fly be gone
User2: MaNI  are you a ballie already too?
User4: depends who you ask, I'm only 31 :p
User2: lol
User2: ok i just wondered because you been on irc so long
User4: heh, my freenode nick is realtively new, I've been on irc since the 90s :p
User2: whew
User2: you were still a baby then
User4: -NickServ-   Time registered: Jan 03 11:34:40 2003 UTC <- thats my shadowfire nick
User4: but my original registration there dropped at some point, so thats a second registration
User2: sjoe
User2: you were born a geek
User4: yeah I was born using computers :p
User2: lucky you
User12: Guten Abend
User12: oh and hi Kilos as well
User4: my father was a prof. eletrical engineering specializing in control engineering (which is as close to programming as you get in that sort of thing I guess)
User2: guten abend inetpro
User2: zehr gut?
User12: User2 time is right?
User2: i forget how to spell that
 * inetpro coming right again
User2: yay
User12: :-)
User4: so we had computer gadgets in the house always and I was introduced to logo really young as my first 'programming language' :p
User2: you really lucky MaNI
User4: back then computer access was pretty rare I think
User4: I mean very few of my friends has at least
User4: *had
User4: most of our stuff was 'on loan' from the uni, like occasionally we would get a cga monitor for a few days instead of a monochrome and this was an amazing thing
User4: good times :p
User2: lol
User2: inetpro  did you chase that other guest?
User2: i was gonna ask for admin so i could kick him
User2: her/it
User12: User2 no
User2: ah then hopefully all my pings chased him
User12: User2 shame!
User12: who knows, maybe he's just very shy
User2: nono peeps must have the decency to at least greet
User2: i greeted for a month
User12: I don't
User2: you dont what?
User12: I don't always greet
User2: yeah man but you are part of the furniture here
User12: ai!
User2: and you dont ignore for a month at a time
User2: thats so rude
User2: flys server giving probs
User2: or quassel
User4: Kilos, the early internet was a lot different though, a sort of naive utopia almost, so it was okay for young kids to be on the loose, I'd be a lot more nervous if I were a parent now than what my parents were probably
User2: lol
User4: it probably sounds a bit elitist or something, but most the people on it at first were in some way linked to a university or whatever, I mean as an example there weren't things like spam or captchas at first
User2: inetpro  check africa channel please
User12: User2 why?
User2: im not sure what that guywants
User4: ICQ had a random chat feature which would pair you with a random partner, and people would actually talk and be interesting etc. stuff like that doesn't work anymore because its all just spam and pedos and stuff, so the popularity brought a lot of change both good and bad :p
User2: ai!
User12: User2 and you want me to magically know the answer to the ultimate question of Life, the Universe, and Everything else?
User4: my icq list had literally hundreds of random people I met and not one of them was a pedo or spam bot or anything weird, anyway can't bring the past back so enough of that :p
User12: User2 lucky for you I do know the answer to that
User2: yes inetpro  or work your way to full enlightenment
User12: it's 42
User3: I still remember my icq number :-o
User4: mine as well, not one of my contacts still exists though :p
User2: inetpro  i dunno what he means by the portal
User12: User2 ask
User2: nono man i am not allowed to be stupid to newcomers
User12: ai!
User2: that would chase potential customers
User2: wb MaNI
User2: uh oh
User2: wooo 12 out of the 18 african countries now
User15: thanks, not sure whats up with my net today :/
User2: lol
User2: why does it call you guest not  MaNI- or something
User1: Night all
User12: good night
User2: night inetpro  sleep tight
User2: rest well
User2: hi alphad
User2: night all. sleep tight
User8: Night Everyone
User7: Getting a database set up is surprisingly complex
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