User1: User4 I'm running from perlkde.
User2: Good morning.
User3: User4 since when do we actively track bugs?
User4: User3 only the next PPAs have arm cos shadeslayer asked for it
User3: ah
User3: Riddelll, User10 could someone please send a mail about that to the list :P
User5: whats the problem with debugging stuff on kubuntu-plasma5? whenever a crash happens dr konqi shows nothing despite me installing many debug symbols
User6: User1 remember bug 1353973 for SRU
User7: bug 1353973 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu Trusty) "Please update kde-workspace to 4.11.11" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1353973
User6: or MRE or whatever it's called
User5: User6 is it just me or does drkonqi not really work on the kubuntu-plasma5 image?
User6: User5 I've not tried thus far, maybe apachelogger has with his porting of kubuntu-debug-installer
User5: User6 I installed tons of debug symbols and it still does not show a useful trace
User5: User6 if you wanna try you know the kill -s SIGSEGV $(pidof <application-name>) trick, right?
User6: ok I'll try it later when doing the beta 1 tests
User6: yeah I know :)
User5: User6 what kubuntu-debug installer is he porting? you mean the apport patches?
User3: drkonqi is kaput
User3: that's why
User5: User3 I have ported the apport patches
User3: also there was an upstream bug in 5.0.1 that rendered stacks broken AFAIK
User6: is it kaput? that's a bad thing to be
User3: was repaired
User3: I think
User5: User3 I only have one problem leftwith kubuntu_drkonqi_whoopsie_integration.patch: it does not create the dr.konqi accept file, so something broke :-(
User5: User3 although the diff did not apply anymore not much has changed. I manaully applied the diff, changed kdebug to qdebug and it compiled
User5: User3 new diff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8157817/
User5: User3 and that would be the one for kcrash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8157820/
User5: User3 both compile, second works as expected, first not yet, I'll have a look again, in the next hours
User5: User3 to be more precise, it seems like only the if in the destructor does not seem to work in http://paste.ubuntu.com/8157817/
User3: well, the destructor thing is a bit of an ugly hack anyway :P
User6: User1 and also a gstreamer backend on bug 1358312
User7: bug 1358312 in phonon-backend-gstreamer (Ubuntu Trusty) "Phonon stable release update to 4.8 beta" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1358312
User5: User3 yeah, but where else to put it? after the close button has been pressed it should be invoked
User5: User3 and all the other buttons like restart etc. so the destructor does not seem that ugly ...
User6: User8 did you do any ISO tests?
User8: yeah
User6: oh yes you marked it as fail :)
User8: I did. Power management is a game breaker for me
User3: User5 one option would be: have a q_global_static qobject and connect it to the checked signal of the checkbox, write data in its dtor
User3: the problem with doing it in the dialog's dtor is that the patch doesn't have scope control, or all the patch knows s_whoopsieCheckBox might have been deleted by then already because of qobject parenting
User5: User3 and the whoopsie/apport upload process really starts as soon as the accept file is created? does not sound logical to me
User5: User3 oh nevermind
User3: no
User3: apport starts as soon as the signal is re-raised by kcrash
User5: User3 yeah, i know ... sorry do not knwo what I've benn thinken
User6: User9 newversion kdevelop 4.7.0
User9: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1362107
User6: User9 newversion wacomtablet 2.1.0beta1
User9: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1362111
User6: User10 alive?
User10: Yea
User10: Meet you in 20 mins for lunch?
User6: okay dokay
User6: no plans for lunch as yes, I'm in favour of buying a bagette and making some sandwiches
User10: Ah :p
User6: cos that's what we used to have to do back in the getto where I grew up
User10: User6 OK then I will head into the office, be there in 20
User11: there is new section available in System Settings -> Display Cofiguration that should allow configure monitors etc i think.
User11: but if we enter there we hane only The shared library was not found.
User12: Hiyas all
User6: User11 ah something is up with kscreen in plasma 5 I guess
User11: hi BluesKaj
User11: User6 ok good to know its not me only
User12: hey soee
User8: User6 that ISO using the frameworks kscreen?
User6: User8 should be yes, Ihave not checked yet
User6: yes it will be or it would not be shown at all
User8: User6 ok I will take a look to make sure it is not the packaging
User6: but why it doesnt want to load it I dont know
User8: Any clues on the power manangement?
User6: also not had a chance to look
User6: some issue upstream I suspect but it may be an issue only exposed on kubuntu
User12: in the plasma5 daily, copy and paste doesn't work unless the source file is left open
User13: sounds like klipper isn't running
User12: but that will probly be solved soon ... too lazy to file a bug atm since it's not real serious
User12: yofel, let me check
User12: had to check the desktop pc and klipper is running
User13: then it's not working :/
User12: and the virtual desktops aren't accepting different backgrounds/wallpapers...I remember a similar problem early in 14.10 plasma 4 which eventually was corrected without filing a bug
User12: running plasma 5 daily on the desktop since it's just a media sever and seems to do it's job ok atm ..plasma 5 on this laptop is still too frustrating
User8: not sure what the deal is with kscreen, nothing jumping out at me in build log. all depends satisfied. Lintian good and no missing. Think I will try a new snapshot..
User8: blech nothing new.
User6: User8 does it run standalone_
User6: kcmshell5 kscreen Â¿
User6: ...spanish keyboards are fun
User8: User6 nope... missing shared library. lemme strace.
User6: "Rex Dieter <robertjohnson@example.org> has been successfully subscribed to kubuntu-devel." yay rdieter still loves us... wait, hes a fedora spyÂ¡
User6: User8 I think it also claims missing even if it just cant load the plugin for whatever reason
User14: double blind spy worm mole
User6: e.g. if its binary incompatible
User8: User6 ok very strange, I saw ENOENT (No such file or directory)  on files I know were in package so I reinstalled wih my local build deb and viola it works.. I changed nothing
User8: somehow files are missing on what was uploaded
User6: apt'get install ''reinstall
User6: fixing ' for dashes
User6: dpkg 'L kscreen
User6: lists all the files
User6: maybe thereÅ a .install file gone missing somewhere
User8: I used the debain from bzr
User8: User6 the paths are wrong in the next PPA, did it get built with the wrong ECM? then a rebuild outta fix it
User8: .I think that is the problem. There was an ECM that broke lots of stuff
User10: User6 https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/119901/
User6: User8 ooh that could be the case
User6: User8 can you upload it to next'staging again_
User8: yeah
User8: I wonder if maybe powerdevil got the same bug
User6: possibly but it has a separate error
User6: worth trying
User11: so thsi can fix the kscreen problem ?
User8: yes
User11: btw what is ECM ?
User8: extra-cmake-modules
User11: oh, thakn you
User6: "Install Plugins and Qt5 Imports to the Qt5 install dir" â "Install Qt Plugins, Imports and QMake mkspecs to the Qt install dir"
User6: User11 cmake modules from KDE Frameworks
User8: unfortuantely it looks like powerdevil plugins are in the correct place
User11: kscreen works now, though connecting TV through hdmi makes plasmashell crash, laso on the display list hdmi is listed twice not sure why
User11: can i chnage phonon backend from cli ?
User6: hmm so the plasma5 image is a bit broken :(
User6: no ubiquity-dm
User6: then weird permissions issues connecting to the network
User6: and running ubiquity
User6: we have the same problem with non-english keyboards as we had in the alphas
User6: and the syslinux menu has the weird back option still and can't boot OEM but then it is broken for other flavours too
User10: yep
User10: known issue that
User10: bug colin
User10: whoa
User10: I have systemd
User10: in my dmesg
User10: or well
User10: my dmesg is colored
User10: and what not
User10: fancy
User10: User6 https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/ubiquity/plasma5/+merge/228528
User10: oh oh oh
User10: im-config pulling in zenity
User10: why
User10: why on why
User6: it likes to do that
User6: I've removed it more than once in the past I'm sure but eventually one loses the will
User10: plasma 5 has mir because of that
User6: umm
User6: why does zenity need mir?
User6: infact why does anything need mir
User10: zenity needs libgtk3-0 which depends on libmirclient
User6: mm
User3: User10 what
User3: I sent a patch to the debian maintainer
User3: to do kdialog and shit
User10: to what
User10: what
User10: ENOCONTEXT
User3: im-config needing zenity
User3: ohohoh
User3: I think the im-config dep might need adjusting
User3: because like, the package where kdialog lives is different
User3: or does kdialog live in baseapps
User3: !find kdialog
User7: File kdialog found in amarok-doc, anyremote-data, ats-lang-anairiats, dff, fckeditor, fpc-source-2.6.2, gcl, gramps, gwrite, kde-baseapps-bin (and 86 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=kdialog&mode=&suite=trusty&arch=any
User3: User10 we seeding baseapps-bin?
User10: ah hm I see
User10: User3 no
User10: which is why we end up with libmir
User3: polish that turd!
User10: such long emails
User3: and here I thought I held back
User10: User6 mind adding kde-baseapps-bin to the seed ^^
User10: User3 pft
User6: User10 plasma5 seed?
User10: yes
 * Riddell makes it sew
User15: Did kubotu always do that?
User13: not really, was added recently
User15: Ah, OK
User3: clearly a contender for best bot on freenode
User2: Good evening.
User5: User3 okay I just looked at the patches again: both patches are working, the only problem is, the destructor does not get called when pressing the close button in the application
User3: space ships
User5: User3 the close button in the titlebar works fine though
User3: User5 that seems silly
User3: but yeah, if one were to not do stuff in the dtor but rather in a global static that would not be a problem
User5: User3 yeah it is silly
User3: the static would get cleaned through the exit_handler so it always gets destructed
User3: User5 I suspect there's is a parenting problem somewhere actually
User3: which also should be resolved as that is a theoretical leak if the scope of the dialog is changed to be smaller than the application scope
User5: User3 it seems to have happened by porting from KDialog
User3: I blame shadeslayer
User5: User3 what for?
User3: he's drkonqi maintainer don't you know ;)
User5: User3 yeah but not calling the destructor is an upstream but as it would not save the window size ...
User5: *bug
User10: wat
User3: I doubt anyone cares about drkonqi window size :P
User10: I am not
User3: it's not like you can play HD prn in there
User3: User10 you moved it across repos, that makes you 300% more the maintainer than anyone else :P
User5: User3 could we simply package the diffs and try to fix the destructor not being called or is that a nogo?
User5: *later
User3: User5 if it is non-functional what is the point of packaging it
User3: actuaaaaaaaaaaaally I was thinking about upstreaming the patches
User3: at least the kcrash one
User5: User3 it is functional, but not for the close button in the application
User5: User3 so 50% ;-)
User3: that's half broken then :P
User5: User3 perfectionist :-)
User3: User5 nono, the perfectionist in me says that it is a 100% broken because there is no formal test saying otherwise (:
User5: User3 true ^^
User10: hurray
User10: User6 ubiquity-dm starts now
User10: User6 but no background
User10: ok shit
User10: something broke
User10: yeah
User10: User6 I broke it too much I think
User3: lol
User3: User10 wallpaper is likely because ubiquity wallpaper loading is shit and depends on the weird kde-wallpaper link we introduces as a workaround for shit being shit
User10: yeah
User10: so basically
User10: ubiquity-dm does not play nice with sddm
User3: User10 how's that?
User3: there's no interaction supposed to be is there?
User10: clicking on Try Kubuntu leads to a loop
User10: idk why, but you never see the desktop after hitting try Kubuntu
User10: launches ubiquity-dm after 2 minutes
User10: atleast sddm doesn't come up with text now
User10: anyway, something to look forward to tomorrow morning
User10: because my head hurts so bad right now :/
User3: User9 order painkiller for shadeslayer
 * kubotu slides awesome pain killing painkillers down the bar to shadeslayer. Good ride!
User10: I took some asprin
User10: thx kubotu
User3: Oo
 * shadeslayer takes a painkiller and washes it down with whiskey
User3: you misspelled whisky again
User3: btw, just sayin
User10: brr
User3: User6 ^ look look look what your coworker did
User3: the outrage
User10: scotch was so much easier
 * apachelogger falls off chair
User16: uhoh, shadeslayer still sick?
User16: :(
User16: {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
 * valorie helps apachelogger up from the floor
User3: User16 thank you :)
User10: User16 somewhat, damn cough won't go away
User10: Though I am to blame for it partly
 * valorie dccs some chicken soup
User16: with garlic
User10: <- vegetarian
User10: I should ask Riddell 's gf for a home made remedy
User13: garlic still applies ^^
User10: Yeah
User10: Gargling with Warm salted water provides some respite though
User10: And I have been popping strepsils like candies
 * valorie changes the recipe to vegetable broth
User10: Mmm soup
User16: bit hot for that here
User16: you can have it all
User3: brrr
User3: soup
User3: what's this, eat a drink?
 * apachelogger would like to have a bloody marry for dinner plz :O
User16: there is cold soup too!
User16: really, tomato juice is as thick as some soup
User16: and a bloody mary even has a stick of celery!
User16: User9 order bloody mary for apachelogger
 * kubotu adds a dashes of Worcestershire Sauce, Tabasco, salt and pepper into a highball glass, pours 4.5 cl Vodka, 9 cl Tomato juice, 1.5 cl Lemon juice and ice cubes in the highball, stirs gently, garnishes with Celery Salt and lemon wedge and slides the cocktail down the bar to apachelogger. VoilÃ  your Bloody Mary.... muhahahahah :P
User16: woah, so detailed
 * valorie installs neon5 on the netbook to see how it runs on an atom
User3: User16 as I said ealier, kubotu  clearly is a contender for best bot on freenode ;)
User16: I fully agree
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