User1: User2 So did you do all the changes in x-d-s and update whisker? :--D
User2: Unit193, not yet D-------------:
 * Unit193 waves.
User1: (FWIW, you can pretty much skip all other recent releases, I've already done something with 'em.  All but sensors and mount.)
User2: :)
User3: bluesabre ochosi - ok so this is driving me nuts :p
User2: ?
User3: thunar
User2: uh oh
User3: *now* I'm seeing the reload issue again
User2: which one is the reload issue?
User3: where a file that's been moved on still shows in the origin
User2: ah
User2: :\
User2: that might be a gvfs thing
User2: I saw that on nautilus this week
User3: oh good
User3: now of course after telling corsac and ochosi it crashed - it won't :p
User2: :D
 * flocculant does something entirely different
User3: might install some other *buntu for 17.04 and test this with that file manager - ubuntu and nautilus sounds like the best plan :p
User3: that was a moderately horrid experience - seems to be no way to select files in nautilus with a mouse window
User3: User2 anyway - didn't manage to crash nautilus there
User4: flocculant, http://staging.xubuntu.org/tracker/
User4: flocculant, this is PoC/betaish stage, but see how the timeline acknowledges that the done item has been closed 2 times
User4: flocculant, also note task groups vs. blueprints - you can now have multiple overlapping
User4: this has probably been more of a problem with community/website/marketing stuff, but things that really belong to more than one blueprint have been painful
User3: yea ack that point ^^
User3: my issue is still an issue - real-time(as far as it goes) with where bugs are reported - so we would still be hitting lp api I guess
User3: and if we mvoe on one stage then upstream reporting where it's listed on lp
User4: yes, but much less
User3: eg a lp bug with upstream link
User4: i think bugzilla has an API as well, so we should be able to work with that as well
User4: and yes, now we can do dozens of cool things
User4: one thing i was considering is that we might want to create tasks for "all bugs"
User4: and then link the bugs into those tasks
User4: so eg. "fix thunar" is the task
User4: and then it could have 1-3 bugs linked to it
User4: if we want
User4: or then just one
User4: or then we can just do what we always did
User4: one feature i haven't been exposing much on the PoC yet is that we can now have a full description for each task Ã¡la wordpress articles
User4: so the tasks are not just titles, they can have all kinds of extra data
User4: and this comes without extra work too
User3: being able to multiple link bugs to a 'task' is good
User4: yes, i gathered this would be a good thing
User4: also, one more thing
User4: remember the bug targets are sometimes weird when you have a bug linked to multiple packages?
User4: well, now we could allow you to select which package to show...
User3: that would be a positive ;)
User4: yep
User4: all kinds of little things
User4: but most importantly from my POV to be able to track a single task better - even if its title changed
User3: I will take some convincing - because most bp's I'm involved with have to talk to lp
User3: and I imagine docs too
User4: sure, i'll try to get some kind of testing stuff going soonish
User4: i'm not doing anything re: bugs quite yet
User4: but since i can reuse most of the code, it should be quick
User3: and how about linking with the dev side of things?
User4: what do you mean with that?
User4: you mean linking with dev.xubuntu.org?
User3: well - if we lose blueprints - how does all the LP stuff currently linking together - link outside?
User4: how does it need to?
User3: bugs > fixes for one I guess
User4: i mean, there's not much synergy we can from tracking stuff in blueprints at the moment anyway :(
User3: other than bugs and fixes
User4: i'm not sure what that stuff is
User4: we aren't using the LP milestones
User4: so no loss there
User3: not sure anyway - I will be keeping my powder dry for the moment :)
User4: hehe
User4: also, one thing i forgot to mention which is fun
User4: we can have multiple assignees per task
 * flocculant always has a match though ...
User4: i just don't know how we'll show that but...
User3: not that you need telling that :p
User4: and we can also add anything we want to the assignee
User4: doesn't have to be LP team
User4: or user
User3: right
User4: which is a slight advantage too
User3: :)
User3: always happy to be involved as you know
User4: yep
User4: i'll need some testing once stuff is set up
User4: mostly the bugs
User1: thunar 1.6.10-6 uploaded by Yves-Alexis Perez (corsac) (Closes: #800723)
User3: just not ever going to be someone you can rely on saying 'that's awesome' till I really mean it :D
User4: i'm still not sure if i want to handle that as i do now (via real cron jobs) or if i should do something else
User4: probably at least a button that says "reload all bug data"
User4: when you need that now
User3: personally I think that last would make more sense
User3: then when 'person' needs real time - they can get it
User4: yes, that AT LEAST
User4: but the automatic side...
User4: maybe i'll move more to a "poor man's cron" kind of thing
User3: could be weekly at that point?
User4: eg. not have a real cron job, but some kind of timestamp in the db
User4: so it only updates if somebody is actually looking
User4: yeah, something like that
User3: as long as all know when it was last globally updated
User4: yep
User4: that's more than easy to achieve now
User4: we can even allow per-bug updates
User4: and show that date too
User4: as that's again a less resource-requiring task than updating all bugs
User3: I tend to err on the side of not adding bugs because of what bp says tbh
User4: hmm?
User3: if berty reads bp and it says things we'll fix this cycle - why would they not expect them to be fixed
User4: right
User3: should just edit the 'words'
User4: we can just change the description
User4: :)
User4: yep
User3: yea :)
User4: ok, so
User4: gone for a while
User3: and the thunar issue would probably always be better linking upstream not xubuntu
User3: yea - same - sunday evening stuff - bbl
User4: hf
User1: greybird-gtk-theme 3.22.1-1 uploaded by Yves-Alexis Perez (corsac)
User2: Unit193, nice!
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