User1: Good afternoon Noskcaj
User2: hey smartboyhw
 * Noskcaj was busy making rockets
User1: Noskcaj, LOL
User2: it fell over and made lot's of smoke
 * smartboyhw has just finished a new package's packaging
User1: Noskcaj, BOO
User2: lol
User1: Noskcaj, give me the chemical equation of the rocket plz:P
User2: KNO3 + sugar = rocket
User2: google "R-candy"
 * Noskcaj can
User2: 't think of anything to package
User2: stupid enter key
User2: lol
User1: KNO3 (Potassium nitrate) + Sugar (C6H12O6) = Rocket fuel
User1: Nice
User1: Noskcaj, LOL
User1: Noskcaj, my bug is 1208021
User1: I broke it down into multiple binaries
User1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1208021
User3: Ubuntu bug 1208021 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] artikulate" [Wishlist,In progress]
User1: And now I got only 1 lintian warning \o/
User2: I saw that thismorning. (Noskcaj's one debian packge only has 1 warning)
User1: Noskcaj, good
User1: Normally, it's a manpage warning LOL
User2: no, mine is completely lintian clean
User2: https://mentors.debian.net/package/python-meld3
User1: Noskcaj, oh good
User1: I can't write manpages myself, so:P
User2: neither, i really need to learn how
User2: smartboyhw, for update software version bugs, are they "fix released" when the current dev release contains the new version? if so, i have a lot of triage to do
User1: Noskcaj, yes
User1: Noskcaj, how's your "bug triaging"?:P
User2: nothing, did you reply? my internet crashed
User1: Noskcaj, I did reply yes
 * Noskcaj looks at logs
User2: I've got an MIA to file, then i'll do that.
User1: Hey elfy any testcase you want to mess with today?:P
User4: nope
User1: elfy, oh:(
User4: testcases are more or less cracked as far as I am concerned
User4: only 2 not being worked on
User1: elfy, good:) Which two?
User4: can't remember now :)
User1: Meh:P
User4: onboard is one I think
User5: balloons: next time you're about, I cannot find the test case for lxterminal. I know it was of the ones I converted over and we then re-loaded last time the applications database was flushed...... Any ideas?
User1: phillw, I thought somebody submited another testcase of LXTerminal
User1: Just now
User5: User1 indeed, and I have just gone through my archived stuff and found the one for lxterminal and lxtask, along with all the sub tests for pcmanfm..... I'll strangle Nicholas if he's managed to loose them all AGAIN!
User5: User1 you have mail :)
User5: User1 I'm still going to strangle balloons as he seems to have lost the lxterminal and lxtask ones :P
User4: lxtask is there
User4: test number 1510
User5: User4 so, where did lxterminal vanish to? :)
User5: he he, It was a while ago, still using <dl>, <dt>, <dd> etc back then :D
User4: User5 we still do use <dl>, <dt>, <dd>
User5: User4 ooh, I was told the CSS had changed.... just goes to show how quickly you can out of touch with things.... balloons had a script to convert them to the 'new' CSS system. I have enough 'fun' keeping to the wiki rules :D
User4: just look at a reccent one - we use those tags - but we don't do all the seperate test names within a testcase
User5: back then, for pcmanfm it was going to be too long a series of sub tests. I've seen this raised about how many steps can we reasonably expect a tester to do and a 'fail' of 4 -5 pages of a test case is why I split them and something that is still being actively discussed :)
User1: phillw, OK
User5: User4 as the test case for lxtask relies on lxterminal, it is rather redundant as of now :(
User4: just needs to be fiddled with Iexpect
User5: User4 if the old or new version of lxterminal can be added, I will ask the person from lubuntu who is keen on test cases to follow on.... I am borg, his resistance to being assimilated into the 'writing test cases' is futile :D
User4: :)
User4: I have to be honest - I've aas much interest in other flavour testcase as others appeared to have in xubuntu ones :)
User4: our team did a wonderful job and we'll now have other xubuntu jobs for them to do :p
User5: User4 I have to be also honesty... I have as much interest in cadence testing as that. For testers, I have already mentioned this to balloons but I do think it should be put on a more formal setting.
User4: User5 don't mistake my lack of interest in *buntu for one of not being willing to help people :)
User4: s/help people out
User5: User4 I've known you far too long to make that mistake :)
User4: good :)
User5: User4 BTW, my semi-feral editor of grammar and explaining stuff that is n00b friendly is awaiting a new task... I was thinking about you posting up a page about using the testing repos :D
User1: phillw, tracker you mean? What repos?
User1: I thought you are talking about Debian testing:O
User4: User5 packages.qa do you mean?
User5: User1 it is a new section to be added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities the PPA area was recently added, need a section for enabling the dev area of the repos, why it is asked to be done, what the dangers are and how to revert back if it borks.
User1: phillw, what PPA area?
User5: User4 ^^
 * smartboyhw still can't understand:
User1: :P
User1: I'm a little bit troubled with Multi-Arch packaging here
User1: So I'm sorry for not understanding
User5: User1 then can I suggest you read the page :P https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PPA_Testing
 * elfy is bereft of time unfortunately - still dealing with sso logins
User1: phillw, well that page seems good
User5: User4 yeah, I did seem to get a lot of traffic on my personal area about that. I'll go and find another "volunteer" :P
User1: phillw, since you are the Lubuntu QA Lead please review the remaining two merge proposals into lp:ubuntu-manual-tests
User4: User5 don't you just love someone telling you what to do ... :p
User1: elfy, well that two testcases clearly are based on Lubuntu and I don't have Lubuntu:P
User1: I've already reviewed two...
User4: I understand that - you just need to think about what your 'pronouncements' look and read like :)
User1: elfy, 'pronouncements' yeah:)
User1: Maybe I should write one, I haven't written a manual testcase for a LONG LONG time.
User5: User1 and I know little of the new test case system. If the code will not crash something, then get it merged. The testers will pick it apart for any errors. Trust the testers.
User1: phillw, OK fine.
 * smartboyhw goes reviewing
User1: When I review things, I tend to run through them actually though
User4: so would I
User5: User1 my current 13.10 has good days, I can run through the test case once it is no longer a diff report :)
User1: phillw, so you hate diffs?
 * smartboyhw is used to diffs
User1: phillw, I'm downloading the Lubuntu alternate to test the image + run through the testcase;P
User1: I mean, run through the image testcase + the reviewing testcases:P
User5: User1 with a passion.. http://pastebin.com/D7jShWjM
User1: phillw, ?
User5: I have that gunk thrown at me on wiki pages I am subscribed to.
User1: I've merged it in and pushed already
User5: User1 that was my email announcement. I'm not qualified to accept such a thing.
User1: phillw, email announcement!?!?!?
 * smartboyhw can't understand what phillw is jenna23@example.com......
User5: User1 yup, I get emails for each merge proposal :)
User1: phillw, yeah sure, so? :P
User4: wanders off ...
User5: I have a quick look to see if there is something crazy, but then leave them to others.... smartboyhw https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Header?action=info is on version 158....
User1: phillw, \o/
User5: Amd I DO read each notification.
User1: phillw, oh no, I will hate these:P
User1: bzr diff is my favorite LOL
User5: User1 when you grow up, you will learn about wiki editing. Makes test cases look a walk in the park :P
User1: phillw, LOL
User5: go look at the code at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/https:/wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw/temp and work out why it does not work :)
User1: phillw, thanks but I don't want wiki challenges
User5: User1 wiki is NOT that scary... I fail to understand how any tester would no be able to learn how to be an editor, especially those who run class room sessions :'(
User1: phillw, I'm sorry, I would rather want to go and work on code challenges or something......
User5: User1 and yet the wiki area is the 1st point of contact for many new commers. Too many kids want the 'exciting stuff' yet they forget that without the wiki area and the manual area, being an advocate for *buntu is to no avail.
User5: </end rant>
User1: Hello SergioMeneses
User6: hi smartboyhw ...morning here! how are you?
User1: SergioMeneses, great:)
User6: good to know
User1: phillw, no need for you to approve the 2 Lubuntu testcases I mentioned, I merged and tested them already:)
User5: User1 thanks, can you send an email to the L-QA thread about the subject?
User1: phillw, OK
User1: phillw, done
User1: I'm thinking of telling balloons to add him as a testcase admin
User1: He's really talented:P
User5: User1 thanks, as the 'general' qa / wiki person there is a limit to what I can do without burn out :)
User5: If he is a good test case writer. get him on board!
User1: phillw, there's also a limit too when I am packaging for Kubuntu:P And phillw I will surely recommend him to balloons
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