User1: who wrote the screen&graphics program?
User1: ah, found it. displayconfig-gtk
User2: New bug: #199337 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "External monitor stays black when hotplugging with Acer laptop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199337
User2: New bug: #199359 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "[hardy] DRI not working with fglrx" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199359
User3: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjM3OA
User3: Phoronix is releasing an open source benchmarking suite.
User3: ... for graphics
User3: This will be a big step forward toward being able to discuss practical numbers for comparison.
User2: New bug: #157556 in ubuntu "consoles are blank with framebuffers (dup-of: 129910)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157556
User1: peoplezwell neat
User1: i guess that gives my brainstorm submission a bit more weight ;)
User1: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/3259/
User1: well, so far they're only releasing the stuff to make graphics from results
User2: New bug: #191508 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "[nvidia] compiz doesn't show shadows, works with manual driver install" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191508
User1: so what all do i need to do to get an onscreen keyboard for gdm?
User4: try #ubuntu-desktop..
User2: New bug: #199075 in compiz (main) "Compiz crashes the system (dup-of: 151168)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199075
User2: New bug: #192407 in linux-source-2.6.22 (restricted) "Thinkpad T61 crashes on resume from suspend" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192407
User2: New bug: #199458 in xorg (main) "cannot use refresh rate of 100Hz with Sony Multiscan G200 + Nvidia FX5200 (WinXp works)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199458
User5: User4 User7 how can i figure the driver used for a display?
User5: if not driver, maybe i can figure the accellmethod used?
User5: (at best programmatically)
User4: User5 I don't think there's a better way than parsing the log :/
User4: randr might support it some time
User5: darn
User5: isn't there an property or something :(
User5: User4 xdpyinfo displays a bunch of extensions. maybe i can guess something from that?
User5: User4 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5404/
User5: thats hat it spits out for me
User5: ok at least we could figure fglrx from that i guess :)
User2: New bug: #199486 in xinit (main) "ConsoleKit integration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199486
User5: User4 i would like to hack a bit on xservers xaa code ... how can i do that without trashing my install?
User5: (e.g. the question is: how to best build upstream code, while not wiping my existing install)
User6: User5 http://hoegsberg.blogspot.com/2008/02/building-and-installing-drmdrix-stack.html
User6: that might help
User5: thx
User2: New bug: #199551 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Fullscreen presentation is only shown on half a screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199551
User4: User5 xdpyinfo doesn't seem to reveal the driver, at least not directly :/
User5: yeah ... cworth said that such info is currently not exposed by xserver
User5: would need to be added
User5: User4 ^^
User6: i don't think there's any plan to add that
User4: shame
User6: why?
User4: well, it could prove useful.. sometimes :)
User4: can't think of a use case for myself though
User7: it's a question that's come up a number of times, for various reasons
User7: (usually due to a need to work around some driver-specific problem or other)
User6: but then you end up with a pile of workarounds which stay around longer than the driver bugs
User7: User6 in each case they ended up using the parse-Xorg.0.log, so not providing that data did not achieve that stability-through-secrecy aim
User6: well i don't think it's about secrecy. more about not encouraging broken things like that.  and you don't have access to Xorg.0.log if you're a remote client :)
User7: I think there is value in having increased information such as the driver for testing purposes
User7: I've run into this answer before ("not wishing to encourage misuse") but there are definitely legitimate uses for having such info
User7: plus, there are drivers we cannot easily fix, so we have no choices but to work around the issues
User6: anyway. /me goes back to uploading this week's new releases
User2: New bug: #196596 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Suspend fails on Sony Vaio SZ650, nVidia 8400M GS and nvidia-glx-new" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196596
User4: User6 bug 38939 seems similar to the bug you mentioned
User2: Launchpad bug 38939 in xorg-server "MPlayer receives BadAlloc when playing very large movies using Xv" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38939
User6: thanks
User4: huh, so RH has had two patches for libx11, the other for a bug that has 17 dupes
User4: definately going to include them
User7: now that  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg no longer prompts for video settings, what should we advise for users needing to workaround areas where configuration cannot be done automatically?
User2: New bug: #199671 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Hibernate fails on Asus F5N laptop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199671
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