User1: User2 http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#Lists  might be of intreast
User1: (and I might be mixing up c and bash abit in my explnations :D  )
User2: nah.. that looks like it involves reading..
User1: its only that one section, not too long :)
User2: meh..
User2: good lord this is taking forever..
User1: User2 you are basically having to download all of kde :S
User2: oh
User2: that explains that
User1: (execpt maby the icons...)
User2: should I replace configuration files?
User1: User2 if you havent modified them
User2: it's been modified by either myself or a script since installation..
User2: so no then?
User1: User2 ... I would say yes, unless you ahve explictly modified themy yourself
User2: if I loose something I like.. I'll be very cross...
User2: ^_^
User1: (or say yes, note the files, and reapply the changes you made)
User1: User2 :) well what file is it asking to be replaced?
User2: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
User2: grrr,,,
User2: /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc
User3: that's a standard choice when upgrading, nymphaeaceae , it shouldn't harm your upgrade
User2: so yes, then?
User1: thats only the login screen, I generally replace that one when it asks me :)  you can reapply changes via system settings > login screen  if you made any (if not then you wont really notice anything)
User2: so if I have a custom one I have to reapply it, that mostly it?
User3: however if you have ppas then they may be out of date after your upgrade
User2: login and boots?
User2: eep?
User1: User2 you might have to reapply a theme (the themes wont be removed)... cant remeber if i actually had to do taht or not though...
User2: oh.. ok..
User1: User2 yeah, looking at it, it seems to store the settings you can edit via system settings > login manager
User1: User2 shouldnt really make much different if you say yes or no if you havnt changed anything there
User2: only have a custom login screen and following boot-page
User1: User2 then its up to you if you want to replace it or not :)
User2: might as well..
User2: well.. gonna let things sit, head home, and see what needs re-customizing..
User4: has anyone else had problems with the recent kernel causing really bad swap behaviour?
User4: I get OOM constantly on a machine with 4G of ram and 9G of swap
User4: I get stuff like this on dmesg:
User4: [285986.903893] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: Failed to allocate SKB buffer with GFP_ATOMIC. Only 0 free buffers remaining.
User4: [285986.910855] chromium-browse: page allocation failure. order:2, mode:0x4020
User4: [285986.910861] Pid: 3992, comm: chromium-browse Not tainted 2.6.32-24-generic #41-Ubuntu
User4: [
User5: User4 Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
User6: hi
User6: why is kubuntu running portmap by default?
User6: I'm reading the Linux Security HOWTO, and a thumb rule says: if you dont know the service, then its not needed
User6: aka security risk
User7: According to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB I need to add myself to the vboxusers group, but this group does not exist <.<
User6: Kage, what happens if you type groups?
User7: chuck@fate:~$ groups
User7: chuck adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
User6: and   grep vbox /etc/group    does nothing?
User7: Ah, I see the problem: Note: Only the non-free version has USB kellygonzalez@example.org.
User7: I have the OSE
User7: Kinda sucks.... meh
User6: it doesnt sound like its important. just use usb outside the box
User7: User6 I am experimenting with creating USB bootable drives
User7: <.<
User6: ah, ok
User7: Sleeping pills are working faster then I thought they would
User7: I feel like I might pass out any seconds
User7: Getting harder to hit the right keys...
User7: must.... hold.... on....
User6: lol
User6: good night
User7: I have to install vbox...
User7: must reach goal!
User7: frack... had to type in my sudo password 3 times
User7: to get it
User6: woaahh
User6: hold on
User6: you need sleep :D
User6: like me
User6: so anyway, good night, i'll enjoy the darkness now
User6: and good luck ;)
User8: question: can i have both the Kubuntu and Kubuntu netbook environments and just choose between them at login like i can between Ubuntu/Ubuntu-netbook?  I tried installing both but i only get one choice on the login, kubuntu-netbook
User8: and it is simply labeled "kde"
User8: so in other words, i want two entries on the login that allow me to choose between the regular kubuntu desktop and kubuntu-netbook.  anyone have an idea how to?
User9: sorry ... what is the Ubuntu channel?
User10: Can anyone help me with a partitioning question?
User10: I'm wondering if I can install a netbook remix on a really small partition to simulate how it might run on a limited processor
User11: i think you can do it with wubi
User11: netbook is an option and it gives you the size, so you should see if the partition size you want is available in the drop down list for GB
User12: Hi
User13: guys. I have an 80 gb partition. Im not able to use it. It shows up on dolphin but its mounted in /media . How do I use it?
User12: did you mount it manually?
User13: Created it while installing kubuntu
User13: im able to access it via konsole and modify it
User12: so you told kubuntu install dialog to mount it for you?
User13: yes
User12: mmmm
User12: what you want is the partition to apppear in dolphin's side panel?
User13: it appears there. but there is a single directory called lost+found and im not able to create files/folders etc
User12: what format is the partition?
User13: I dont remember.
User13: Most probably ext4.
User12: could you give me the output
User13: Small chances of ext3 or fat32 or ntfs.
User13: Wait ill check
User12: of df -h
User12: the message got broken :P
User12: I meant the output of df -h
User13: http://pastebin.ca/1941876
User13: dev/sda7
User12: is sda7 the partition you are trying to access?
User13: yes
User12: it seems to be almost empty does it have something?
User13: an empty folder lsot + found
User12: can you see this partition in dolphin side panel?
User13: http://pastebin.ca/1941877 this output comes if i try to open it in konsole.
User12: that's ok
User12: lost+found is something of ext
User13: I can see the partition  but it does not allow me to create files, folders or modify it
User12: it's normal, I never new why it's actually there
User12: have you tried in konsole?
User13: i can create some folders
User12: ?
User13: with root permission
User13: in /media/dev
User12: oh
User12: ok
User12: I think you have to change a few things in /etc/fstab
User12: look for the line that says /dev/sda7
User13: ok. Another problem. im not able to save text files in that partition
User13: theres nothing about sda7 in fstab. that could be the problem?
User13: sorry there is a line
User12: are you sure? if it's automatically mounted at boot it should be there
User12: ok
User12: no problem
User13: http://pastebin.ca/1941879
User12: I remember having that problem
User12: I fixed it by adding UUID=something option
User12: I'll search it
User13: ok
User12: try changing /dev/sda7 permissions
User12: something like chmod 0777 /dev/sda7
User12: and also /media/dev
User12: maybe that should do,now I remember that UUID thing was with a fat partition
User13: i tried remounting it. didnt work.
User13: ill try this
User13: i can create folders without root access. but i still cant create and save files
User12: that's weird
User13: funny thing is
User12: did you changed permissions?
User13: i can do it in dolphin
User12: haha
User13: yep! thank you. its working on dolphin
User14: User13 is this a thumb drive formated as ext2 or something like that?
User12: no prob
User13: User14 no. Hard disk partition. ext4
User12: does anyone know what is the planned multimedia player for maverik?
User12: or at leat what comes with the betas
User14: does the user have permission to the disk
User13: User14 yep! i now fixed the problem! Thank you!
User14: User13 I ran into that same problem with thumb drives before
User12: has anyone tried maverik betas?
User14: User12 not yet
User12: I wanted to know about the situacion of the multimedia player
User12: in the brainstorm page some people talk about vlc
User13: User12 not yet. But I dont think they are changing media players in kubuntu. only for xubuntu. But pulseaudio will be sound driver in kubuntu
User13: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MaverickMeerkat/Beta/Kubuntu
User12: so they are keeping dragon with xine?
User12: maybe they should use vlc backend, I heard good things about it
User13: There are some rumours of that.
User13: Im not sure about ubuntu-gnome
User12: yeah but I'm talking about phonon backend
User12: new betas look awesome, I hope they work better too
User14: i think there are some potential issues shipping with vlc as the backend
User15: Is the kubuntu.org page suppose to just show "OK" with nothing else?
User16: User15 nope - shows plenty for me
User15: User16 kubuntu.org.png will show just "OK", yet, kubuntu.org/news will show a normal page.
User15: User16 The two images are here for you to see: http://realmkeeper.com/public_folder/
User15: User16 Happens both in Firefox and in Konqueror for me.
User15: User16 The main page comes up now.
User17: hey all
User17: kwin and xorg process need about 20% cpu, each.... havea nvidia grafic.. and that problem is since i upgraded to kde 4.5 and 4.5.1
User17: any idea to fix that?
User18: User17 It's a common issue
User17: User18 from kde?
User18: there's a partial "fix" coming in 4.5.2, but the real issue is in the nvidia drivers
User17: is there a workaround until it is fixed?
User18: yes
User18: hang on
User17: User18 when will 4.5.2 be released and packaged for kubuntu? and still in beta ppa or in main repo of kunbuntu?
User18: there is a (somewhat experimental) script / mini-program you can download that will update a component in kde with some fixes that will be available in 4.5.2
User17: can wait.. but work is hard..
User18: service relesaes like 4.5.1 and 4.5.2 are released about every month
User17: is kde 4.5.1 in kubuntu ppa still beta?
User18: no, it's the final 4.5.1
User17: User18 ah ok.. so wait until october ;)
User18: (as long as you get it from backports)
User17: User18 i have it from backports.. it's only availabe ther, right?
User18: you can wait until october, or try the nouveau drivers (instead of the nvidia-provided ones)
User18: they do release test versions in other repositories like their beta repository, but if you have backports, it's 4.5.1-kubuntu final
User17: User18 hm... have two monitors on my notebook.. primary internal and an external hdmi.. does that work in nv driver?
User18: nv driver is outdated and not working very well
User17: is nv not= nouveau?
User18: you will want to use the new nouveau driver
User18: nope
User17: aha.. ok..
User18: nv = NVidias own open driver
User18: nouveau = open driver developed by the community
User17: hm.. but the no effects an such things
User18: that's an issue with both nv and nouveau, unfortunately
User18: although, nouveau is better in that regard as it allows you to run basic desktop effects through xrender
User18: it's easy to try though, and if it doesn't work you can easily switch back to the nvidia one
User17: User18 if i now switch to nouveau, i need some work to get it runing, right? or just install the driver?
User18: and then you can always wait for 4.5.2 :)
User17: whats the package name?
User17: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
User18: the nouveau driver is usually installed if you have an nvidia graphics chipset (it tends to autodetect that stuff)
User18: otherwise it's the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau package yes
User17: Installed: 1:0.0.15+git20100219+9b4118d-0ubuntu5
User18: are you familiar with the console?
User17: yes..
User18: cool
User18: make a backup of your xorg.conf file
User17: User18 so just change the xorg.conf
User18: in the console, type "cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup"
User18: then "sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
User18: that will remove the configuration file, as it is not really needed for the nouveau driver
User18: then you should uninstall the nvidia driver, which is usually a matter of running "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current"
User17: User18 and how to setup the external monitor?
User18: that can be done via KDEs monitor configuration
User18: system settings -> display and monitor
User17: User18 and nvidia needs to really be removed?
User18: nvidia doesn't support that, so you are probably used to using nvidias own nvidia-settings to configure that stuff
User18: kdes monitor/display config utility is very similar and shouldn't be very hard to figure out
User18: yes, nvidia drivers needs to be removed, because they will load automatically otherwise and in general conflict with loading nouveau
User17: so.. remove xorg.conf, nvidia-current.. and restart.. .. will give it a try..
User17: if it doesnt work, i just need to install nvidia-current and restore xorg.con
User17: f
User18: if something goes wrong (your display doesn't start properly, display is garbled, etc), you should boot into "root recovery console" and do "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current && sudo cp ~/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/"
User18: oui
User17: jepi..
User18: also, when KDE then restarts, desktop effects will be disabled
User18: I'll tell you how to re-enable them when you get there :)
User17: ok.. and... rebooot
User18: good luck :)
User17: User18 i know that.. cause. i'm familiar in console.. and such basic config scripts, files...
User18: cool
User18: you never know, better to have mentioned it once than to be sorry later ;)
User18: I'm actually logging out / in myself because of that pre-4.5.2 nvidia fix
User18: brb :)
User18: User17 welcome back
User18: how's the status? :)
User17: hehe.. strange display. now.. wrong resolution.. but i'm configuring it.. and mirrored display ;)
User18: yeah, that's to be expected
User18: nouveau has its own quirks, so whether you like it better than nvidia "official" is a just a matter of personal pref
User18: and, of course, hardware ;
User17: tataaaa.. work.. :)
User18: so, basically, leaving things as they are now (no desktop effects) is probably the "fastest" you'll get
User18: desktop effects may or may not improve / smooth things out, so whether you want to run with it, you'll have to try and see
User18: system settings -> desktop effects -> "Advanced" tab
User18: there's a dropdown that says "opengl" and "xrender", change it to xrender and apply
User18: then go back to the "General" tab and press suspend / resume compositing a few times (sometimes it doesn't detect whether it's suspended or not) until you're happy
User18: an issue with nouveau / xrender is that many effects won't work, such as blur, cover switch, desktop cube, etc
User18: but you'll get shadows, transparency and some other basic effects
User18: also, xrender animations tends to be a bit slow, so you'll want to change the animations speed in the "General" tab to something faster than "Normal" ;)
User17: User18 have switched back to nvidia.. i love effects ;)..
User17: so.. wait for 4.5.2
User18: User17 allright :)
User17: anybody know how to configure my touchpad on my notebook? is there any tool yet?
User19: User17 IIRC you need to add an additional package
User17: User19 hey..
User17: User19 and which one?
User19: kcm-touchpad. If you search with 'aptitude search touchpad' you can find that yourself :)
User17: User19 and configure it over systemsettings / input devices/ toucpad? but i can't.. its disabled..
User17: Touchpad Name: device not found
User19: User17 check your laptop function keys, it might be disabled
User17: no
User19: User17 try restarting KDE (logout and log in again)
User17: the laptop shoortcut doesn't work to enable/disable it
User17: have done that allready
User17: is it an usb device?
User20: hola buenas
User19: User17 then I don't know, the particual brand just might not be known. Did you check the manufacturer support website?
User19: particular*
User17: User19 not yet.. for the moment i disable the touch pad over a command.. rmmod psmouse
User19: User17 well, that is usually always the first step with hardware problems
User17: User19 i know.. but i normally use a external usb mouse.. and don't use the touchpad often..
User17: hm.. how can i find out information about my touchpad?
User19: User17 I just told you, search the manufacturer's website
User19: and use google :)
User17: User19 i mean.. is it normally an usb device?
User17: so it should be listed with lsusb.. right?
User19: User17 no, why? a touchpad is built-in, not connected through USB
User19: lspci should list it
User17: User19 i know.... anyway.. will check google later
User19: and you know the brand of your laptop, no?
User17: User19 i know all.. but now.. lunchtime. bbs..
User21: hello, i know the gnome standard partitionprogram is the Gparted, but what is the KDE's version?
User19: patience...
User22: hi everybody
User22: i've got a trouble with kontact 4.4.5
User22: i can't send email
User22: with every specific domain (i mean google, yahoo, live.com etc etc)
User22: anyone may help me?
User23: ey, the fucking kate won't handle my tab correctly. once he does use spaces, but i dont have selectet "use space insteat of tab" !!
User17: User25 hey.. you have wrote, that there is a script to fix the kwin/xorg problem in kde 4.5.1, you know where to get this script?
User24: hey guys, Dolphin can't copy from a SFTP server, I start the copy, but the progress bar stucks and nothing happens, there isn't any single downloaded bitâ¦ Any idea?
User24: Oh, system is Kubuntu 10.04.1 with KDE 4.4.2
User25: User17 http://hugo-kde.blogspot.com/2010/09/performance-issues-one-script-and-call.html
User26: Hi Everyone
User26: Need your help in solving an issue with Kwin. I am on kubuntu 10.10 / kde 4.5.1
User3: 'morning folks
User26: The problem is desktop getting kellygonzalez@example.org. Since last 2-3 days this has happened 4 times.
User26: I am on intel driver.
User26: Can I do something to avoid this freeze?
User3: Aray, best to ask in #ubuntu+1 , it's the dev chat
User26: @BlueKaj - Thanks for the channel.
User26: Hi Everyone!!
User27: hi, in KDE SC 4.5, when i install webkitkde and set it as default for konqueror, i notice that it stalls for about a minute when loading heavy java script ( gmail  etc) . I also see the same behaviour with rekonq and arora, anyone experienced the same before?
User28: Hi! I have a RAID 1 with mdadm and one of the disks got a headcrash, now the system doesn`t boot with the second disk :( What do i have to do, to make it boot?
User17: switched to nouveau display driver. and setup display's in systemsettings... but the settings will no be saved.. on reboot, they're gone..
User29: hi all, i am thinking of switching from arch linux to kubutnu (back). How is the support for a macbook pro 3.1?
User29: and next thing: i like my software to be very up2date (hence arch linux :-) ), but since the kubuntu ppa seems to be very good and up2date, i am switching back... are there other things/tips you could say about staying up2date in a safe way? :)
User30: hallo zusammen
User30: bin neu hier habe ubuntu und mÃ¶chte videos schauen und das geht net schnief kannn mir  jemand helfen
User31: !de | miri
User32: User30 In den meisten ubuntu-KanÃ¤len wird nur Englisch gesprochen. FÃ¼r deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke fÃ¼r Ihr VerstÃ¤ndnis.
User1: User29 using the backports ppa helps (note that kubuntu dosnt update major version of programs during a release, although some of them get added to the packports ppa)
User30: hallo bin ich hier richtig
User1: User29 (ie by default, lucid is still on 4.4.2, but the backports conatins 4.5.1)
User1: ^^ of kde that is)
User29: User1 i think the most important for me is the kde suite, and that seems to stay quite up2date in the kubuntu kde ppa, other software including wine, vlc has its own ppa's if i like (heard from a colleague)... and i could care less about system stuff
User31: User30 nein, wenn du deutch reden sollen must ihr #kubuntu-de besuchen, in dieser knal wird nur english gesprochen
User29: i like to see the new shiny stuff, libraries and compilers are not that important :)
User30: ok
User29: in fact, when developing, it is not always fun to have the latest gcc and be the first to find the new errors :)
User33: hey all
User33: Ash-Fox:  hola
User33: I'm starting to use KDE SC Activities, find it all well and good; the thing is, tasks from other activities clutter up my task manager.  I think the Task Manager should have a checkbox to [x] show only tasks from current Activity (it already can filter based on desktop or screen)... what's your opinion?
User1: User29 well, kde is availble in the backports (well, untill the next version of kubuntu is released, lucid wont get kde 4.6 as far as I know, but maverick will be out then and will get it when kde 4.6 is released) and the wine team have a ppa on their site for newer version of wine
User29: User1 thanks for the info, now i just need a bit of time to install it... exciting, sailed by ubuntu once, just before arch linux, curious about what i shall think of it now :)
User33: User1  how are you saying that Maverick will contain KDE 4.6?  I thought Maverick is out this October, while KDE SC 4.6 is due later this coming January
User33: User29  use kubuntu hehehe it's better
User29: User33 i think he means it will come in maverick-backports
User1: User33 sorry, I ment maverick will get kde 4.6 in its backports when kde 4.6 is out, it will use kde 4.5 by default
User33: ohhhh got it
User29: User33 experience with arch too?
User33: nein
User29: so how do you know :p
User33: Red Hat (early '98), then Debian ever since and recently Kubuntu
User33: User29  oh I meant that kde > gnome
User33: so it follows logically that kubuntu > ubuntu
User29: User33 definetley, used kubuntu then as well, but i think it is the same
User33: :)
User29: User33 i think it is a pity in fact that they have different sites and such... instead of just a switch in the installer... but that is me :)
User1: User33 btw, are you talking about activities, or virtual desktops (its the virtual desktops that hold the programs, activites hole the widgets)
User33: activities
User1: User33 also, there is a checkbox to only show application from the curren desktop (as well as current screen) in the task managers settings (right click and empty part of the task manager > task manager settings... note that on kde 4.4 you need to close windows untill there is a blank part of the task manager you can click)
User33: for me, if I switch to a different activity, I (personally) don't want to see windows from other activities
User34: User29 I'm curious. I never used arch. Why are you abandoning it?
User33: User1  well I have that checked, too
User33: User1  but I want to show only tasks from the current Activity
User1: User33 ... windows arent assiciated with activities, they are assosicated with virtual desktops, activities only hold widgets/backgrounds
User29: User34 oh well, it is not that i am really against it... i love it and i learned a lot. But i like to try different things and occasionally, the DIY style of arch is not that fun... I am a computer scientist, but working with computers does not have to be hard for me all the time :)
User1: User33 you cant since they dont work taht way,
User34: User29 ok, thanks. I was thinking myself of switching to arch.
User33: User1  activities are not useful for my needs then
User1: User33 windows get placed on different virtual desktops, they dont care at all what activity is active,
User1: User33 its virtual desktops you want to look at
User29: User34 e.g. you can install grub2 on arch, but it is less straight-forward, cups is a bit kellygonzalez@example.org...
User33: User1  see, I see an Activity as adding a new dimension along which I can organize my workflow
User33: User1  but I see what you are saying
User29: User34 but i recommend you try it and see for yourself... it is true that you learn more by using arch while *buntu is holding your hand more often :)
User1: User33 it is, for widgets... activities act like virtual desktops for widgets (not windows, since they already ahve virtual desktops)
User34: I'll not miss a beta version of grub :-) That might just be a reason to switch.
User29: User34 true, but i was trying that one for a project of mine, otherwise, i dont care about bootloaders anyway as long as they load my system :)
User34: Oh, it doesn't have to be DIY for me. I choose Kubuntu because I have to support a *lot* of computers. Gentoo, my former love, wasn't the easiest distro to do that.
User33: User1  hmm, since I don't use widgets....
User29: I hate gentoo alvin ;-) that is not completely true but i just always found it to be useless to compile everything, a waste of time
User34: User29 That's the case. Since Jaunty I've had so many boot issues on so many machines that it really is not funny anymore. I've had a whole network (with same nics) that still have issues to bring their eth0 up in Lucid.
User34: I was thinking about debian, so I won't have to adapt that much, but I also want the latest KDE and now that Maverick promises good Kolab support I think I'll stay a while longer and see.
User29: User34 that is not fun indeed... any solutions in sight?
User29: User34 debian is just old shit ;)
User34: Not for the moment. The bug was marked as fixed :-( But all nics have had their mac addresses changed by Lucid.
User29: User34 another reason for switching for me: i have to support some ubuntu servers, an ubuntu testbed and my parents who started using ubuntu on my call recently :D (all with a K of course ;) )
User1: User33 then you dont really ahve a need for activities (although you still use widgets... the panel is covered by them :D .. assuming you still have a panel)
User29: User34 if you need support with that, perhaps i can help... been there too
User34: Yeah, I do have to support some servers also.... boot issues are better, but still there. (netfs in kvm doesn't come up at boot, automatic NFS mount issues,..) broken kellygonzalez@example.org. and since Lucid a high average load on a lot of machines. No, it can be better.
User34: User29 Thank you. I took commercial support. All those issues remain, but I have workarounds in place.
User35: I have kdm crashing right after entering password, with maverick beta installed and then fully upgaded, on a NVIDIA Quadro NVS 3100M card. Does anybody know a workaround?
User29: User34 i tend to fiddle with those things myself and we have a really cool lab for our students now :-D
User34: Canonical doesn't fix bugs. (well, they do, but it's not part of a support contract and that's understandable)
User1: User35 #ubuntu+1 for meverick support
User3: volodya, ask in #ubuntu+1
User34: User35 Yes, install nvidia-common. Nouveau segfaults. I'm currently filing the bug
User34: User35 nvidia-current I mean
User35: User34 is just installing that supposed to fix the issue?
User34: User35 Well, if you install it will automatically be set as the default driver
User34: It's not a fix, mind you! You're just using another driver
User34: User35 Filed. It's bug 640596
User32: Launchpad bug 640596 in xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (Ubuntu) "KDM: X crashes on login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/640596
User35: I get some warning from update-alternatives during install. Is this expected?
User34: User35 I think it is
User34: To change drivers afterwards, use jockey-txt
User35: gah, it appears to still crash
User34: hmm
User34: Have you rebooted?
User35: yeah.
User35: let me run this jockey thing
User34: If you want to see more information, start a text console and start KDE with $ startx
User35: is it supposed to say "Searching for available drivers" and then exit?
User34: Yes :-) try $ jockey-text --list
User35: ah, nvidia_current appears to be the only one, and is enabled
User35: wow, startx itself works.
User35: at 800x600 ;-)
User33: hey all..  how do I set up Dirvish to copy from nightly BTRFS snapshots instead of from the live filesystem?
User36: hola
User36: alguien me puede ayudar a arreglar el sonido del youtube
User36: no se escucha
User3: !es | anxel
User32: User36 En la mayorÃ­a de canales de Ubuntu se habla sÃ³lo en inglÃ©s. Si busca ayuda en espaÃ±ol o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
User35: User34 fwiw, installing nvidia-current appears to make 'startx' work, with right resolution and compositing, but kdm still crashes on login
User37: User36 pincha en #ubuntu-es y preugnta ahÃ­
User36: gracias men
User3: volodya, habe you asked in #ubuntu+1 as we suggested earlier ?
User3: have
User35: User3 no. I'm responding to a specific comment I was given.
User3: you really should find some help for a devel OS as listed in the caption above  Maverick/10.10 support in #ubuntu+1
User3: ok, time for the news
User3: bbl
User38: www.gaul.co
User9: join #Ubuntu-es
User39: User9  you mean /join
User40: is there a mini install possibilty for linux mint like for ubuntu?
User41: Is there a way to turn off system beep for one app, chromium?  Or turn it off for everything?  I've tried modprobe -r pcspkr
User1: User41 try turning the system bell off, system settings > accessability
User41: User1 Thank you thank you.  I was looking under system bell.  My sanity is now restored.  :)
User42: In the kde netbook view, or default newer kde views, is there an "expose" like keystroke? one default stroke to show all opened windows in the syste,
User1: User42 yes, its the present windows desktop effect (requires desktop effects enabled) shortcut keys are: Ctrl+F10: All desktops, Crtl+F9: Current desktop, Crtl+F7:Window class
User1: User42 these can all be configured in desktop effects in system ssettings
User1: (or the global keyboard shorcuts part of system settings)
User42: thank you James147
User1: note that you can also set that effect for the alt+tab window switcher
User42: It seems they're not enabled, or the shortcuts not assigned, I'll check
User42: Ok, desktop effects enabled, and they don't seem to slow down my netbook
User42: thank you very much sir!
User1: User42 they may or may not drain more power (due to waking up your gpu/cpu more often)
User42: ok
User1: User42 I would advise you disable any effects you dont need/want
User42: It seems the machine's intel gpu is enough to move them
User42: yeah I'll depure them latter, now beleive it or not I need the effects to work :P
User1: User42 also, if your on a laptop it may be configured to disable desktop effects when unpluged, see System settings > advanced > power managment to change that
User42: I want to hug people at random
User42: User1 trouble is I can't set it up to reenable the effects on the plugged in profile
User1: User42 you cannot? (it should enable the effects if the "disable effects" option is not checked, assuming that effects wernt disabled globally)
User42: User1 Ah I understand
User1: User42 the working is a little confusing :) the powermagament only suspends effects, dosnt "disable" them...
User1: wording ^^
User1: (like hitting the suspend effects button the the desktop effects page
User43: Aloha, i got a short question, i got a new display (BenQ G2200W 22"), and i got all the time some flicker on the screen, on kde system settings i can choose only between 59.9 hz and 60hz, but both show me the same result... flicker on the screen
User42: User1 not selecting "deactivate effects" activates them if they're not disabled
User42: Ok i get it
User1: User42 yeah
User1: (or at least it should ;) )
User1: User43 what graphics card/drivers are you using?
User43: User1 well i dont think its a a card problem on 17" lcd no flicker, but the new display does, but its only an intel gma950 nothin special
User1: User43 with or without desktop effects enabled?
User43: turn effects of change nothin, already tried this
User43: *off
User42: I'd check if dri is being used... that card should be able to go higer than 60hz I think.
User33: hi
User44: hola
User33: hi hi
User42: konnichiha
User33: konnichiwa
User45: hi!
User44: hello
User42: yoohoo
User46: hi all
 * Lars_G waves energically
User47: hello, pressing Edit Software Sources does nothing, any way to invoke that dialog through terminal?
User1: User47 it should ask you for a password, is the dialog hiding behind kpackagekit?
User47: no hidden dialog
User47: oh it's a known bug
User1: User47 also, dont know of a way to invoke it via cli, but what are you trying to do? there are cli ways of directly doing some things it configures
User47: trying to enable default repositories
User48: how do you select the default device for the volume up, volume down and mute media keys? I have SB Live! EMU10k1 Analog Stereo and HD48x0 audio Digital Stereo (HDMI) and I want them to use the former rather then the latter
User47: could just edit sources.list I guess
User1: User48 select a master chanel in kmix
User1: User47 yeah, thats the easiest way without the dialog :)  (also add-apt-repository <repo>)
User48: James147, ah thanks! That's perfect!
User3: duckx0r, type alsamixer in the terminal , use the arrow keys to navigate and the M key to mute or unmute in box/ctrls
User49: if I use the noovoh driver (open nvidia) my framebuffer displays at the native resolution of 1920x1080. If I use the nvidia binary, my framebuffer doesn't go up above 1280x1024. any ideas on getting my framebuffer to show up at my native resolution using the nvidia binaries?
User47: could anyone tell me what the official repos are?
User3: oops , guess i should have srolled up
User3: !repositories  | yannis_
User32: User47 The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
User1: User49 have you tryed setting them in nvidia-settings?
User50: hi, is it safe replace dbus 1.2 with 1.4 version to overcome dophin "freezes" and other issues? Taken from ppa:aleksander-m/dbus-development .. anyone has experience in this?
User49: User1 are you referring to the gui? if so, I've never seen a framebuffer option in there :/
User49: User1 interesting, I am looking at a sort of spreadsheet mumble jumbo code spaghetti. is it in there?
User49: im gonna google that
User1: User49 speadsheet? not sure what your looking at :S, nvidia-settings should allow you to set the resalution you want (better then the kde configs)
User49: no need to google it the little help button shows a lot of stuff but it ain't giving me real world resolutions
User3: vbgunz_, which nvidia card ?
User49: I am not trying to set the X resolution. I meant framebuffer. the consoles 1 through 6, the virtual terminals is what I am referring too
User49: User3 I have a GTX 275
User1: User49 ahh :) not entirly sure how tahts done, but have seen some things on google on how to set it
User51: whats the irc command to list channels on a server?
User49: I just can't get that table to make any sense. the help offers so little in helping me pick the right resolution here
User3: vbgunz_, some frame ratios for your monitor with no X aren't picked up by the kernel source driver ...I have the same on my ati older card ..tty prompt is setup for a 4:3 screen , but mine is 16:10
User51: thats alot of channels
User51: stop
User49: User3 yeah, I swear that's whats happening. Just the thing is, the noovoh free driver gets the framebuffer right at the native resolution so I know it can be done. It's just pulling tooth and nails trying to use the nvidia binary
User1: User49 this might be intresting: http://tinyurl.com/25alfkn
User3: vbgunz_, why not just use the nouveau ?
User52: o
User52: hi
User49: User3 I really like the effects I have setup and for some off reason, the effects make my computer feel snappier. I turned them off several times and no matter the driver, it always feels choppy
 * BluesKaj searches for cheaper retro nvidia 7 series cards :)
User49: User1 I am gonna check that out hard right now
User3: vbgunz_, fair enough :)
User49: User3 KDE 3.5 actually felt way better with no effects than KDE 4 with no effects and I had an old FX 5600 from walmart about 4 years old vs what I have now. you would think no effects would look good, I just don't know why it aint the case :(
User52: lol
User49: I gotta reboot to check this out James147, give me a couple minutes and I'll let you know what exploded
User52: does anyone talk in these irc rooms
 * James147 see people talking...
User53: BluesKaj, James147, I officially give up. im stuck with a 1280x1024 framebuffer resolution which clips about 15 columns to the right and for the moment I couldn'
User53: be happier being stuck
User53: heh
User54: bonsoir
User54: j ai un probleme a me connecter au wifi sous kubuntu
User54: ya quelq un qui peut m aider
User55: hi
User55: how could i change the audio balance so that it's more on leftside
User55: well for example
User55: i mean volume
User55: ach the balance i mean :D
User55: with kubuntu 10.04
User56: salut le monde
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