User1: jdeslip: doh, I just realized bart isn't near the solano stroll :)
User1: jdeslip: is there parking?
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User1: "Free shuttles run 10AM-7PM from the North Berkeley BART"
User1: oh, nice :)
User1: 10AM isn't really early enough to set up the booth, but maybe MJ can drop me off
User2: Oh yeah, I should figure out my transportation as well. :)
User2: Okay so the whole thing is 26 blocks? Where exactly are we?
User1: 1223 Solano Ave
User3: oh hey seidos
User3: Powers back!
User4: Interesting, the Almaden IBM PC club (normally totally Windows-oriented -- I'm on their list because I spoke there once about GIMP) has a speaker on Ubuntu this month. DeForrest Home is the speaker.
User5: User4 oh, that's cool.
User6: User1 how's email going today?  :)
User7: User4 good catch
User1: User6 I hate spam
User6: User1 what about spam, spam, eggs, and spam?  That's not got much spam in it.
User1: I don't eat pork
User1: :)
User6: User1 if only bacon weren't so delicious!
User1: pepperoni is my weakness
User8: I don't like either of those things!
User6: User8 but you're weird!
User4: I like bacon okay, but don't really get why people seem to like it so much more than anything else.
User6: I ate a chocolate bar once that was fortified with bacon.
User4: bacon's usually way too fatty
User6: User4 I'm telling jono on you!
User7: bacon fatty? lol
User7: "So, how's everyone doing today?"
User1: User7 have you seen any zebras yet!?
User1: :)
User1: I saw an ocelot in phoenix! (it may have been in a zoo)
User7: yes, first thing I saw was a zebra near the airport but it was dark
User7: they were just wandering across the road
User1: yay!
User7: pictures next time
User1: :)
User7: finished second day here. I slept most of it.
User7: preparations there are for Solano Stroll?
User1: I think we're all set for the stroll
User7: good to hear
User4: Wow, wild zebras? Too cool!
 * grantbow nods
User9: awesome User7)
User7: thanks jledbetter
User10: Hey grantbow
User7: hey DarkwingDuck
User11: i am so bored
User3: hey! pleia2 your a mamber of the ubuntu beginners. how did you do that?
User1: User3 a long, long time ago they had a process where you apply at team meetings
User8: yeah, you're not a beginner, get out of there
User3: I was told a few weeks ago I should try to by someone
User1: it's all sort of fallen apart though
User3: rww, what am i? what would you say i should do. find another place to volunteer? pleia2
User8: User3 I was talking to pleia2 :P
User3: i have been looking for a good place to help out lately?
User8: (and joking)
User3: thats what i figured! :)
User8: I've barely stepped foot in #ubuntu-beginners, so... :|
User1: User8 haha, we *help* beginners :)
User3: rww, i feel like a begginner on here a lot. but in "real life" i am actually pretty good compared to most
User8: the more I use Ubuntu, the more I realize everyone's a beginner at way over half of Ubuntu.
 * bkerensa saw a #ubuntu-beginners meeting once and it wasnt pretty
User12: :D
User8: just different subsets, so people seem smart to each other :)
User3: i help people on there. usually at like 1 too 5 am
User3: when most people are being smart and sleeping
User8: I mainly have #ubuntu ops because I'm online when people are asleep :)
 * philipballew didnt sleep last night as roaming a city with no power is more fun
User8: I was in a study room until 3am and then slumped back to my dorm room
User3: I have no school today. all classed canceled accross all of san diego!!!
 * philipballew partyin partyin yeah!
User3: your area has been nice though lately i hear
User11: User1 i heard you were an xubuntu user?
User8: I'm on Unity right now. I feel so mainstream :<
User11: hahaha
User11: how is it?
User8: fine, if I don't plug a second monitor in. if I do, compiz gets unhappy.
User11: ick
User8: can't be bothered filing a bug about it, going to see if oneiric fixes it in a few months
User11: i've been meaning to try it, but haven't mustered the motivation
User11: i'm super excited for lightdm
User8: Why? It's like gdm except with less features :P
User6: User8 they have lots of nice Unity enhancements in oneiric.
User8: User6 yeah, I'm figuring between that and Xorg updates...
User6: User8 in fact, natty-updates include some Unity fixes for multimonitor setups.
User6: I ran dual monitors for my Ubuntu Community Week presentation.  Was suboptimal.  :)
User11: i dunno i just am excited for lightdm :P i miss back when i used slim on debian
User8: User6 If I had to guess, I'd say it's a compiz <-> Xorg graphics glitch, rather than specifically a Unity UI bug
User11: down with compiz :P
User6: User11 lightdm is great except they had to load GTK drivers, reimplement accessibility and localization stuffs.
User6: When they're finished, they'll just have gdm again.
User6: But minus all of the lessons learned writing gdm.
User1: User11 yep, xubuntu
User11: me too, xubuntu
User11: User6 hmm i see
User8: User6 exactly
User4: I wondered about that ... how it was lighter weight if it had a similar feature set.
User6: At least unity-greeter on lightdm is pretty.  Except the input fields are sort of wonky.
User4: If you're worried about gdm being too heavyweight, why use a dm at all?
User6: No insertion point (cursor) and your password just disappears when you hit enter.
User6: User4 because 'startx' is scary.  :)
User8: and why not refactor the problematic parts of gdm instead of starting from scratch?
User6: User8 because of reasons.
User4: Because it's way more fun to start from scratch than to try to figure out someone else's ugly broken code?
User8: true
User6: User4 that might be it.  :)
User2: User1 Burned 60+ CDs for Sunday.
User1: User2 yay! thank you
User2: Now I need to print and fold 60+ cases. :)
User1: User2 actually I have a bunch
User1: and I need to use them soon because they go obsolete soon
User1: so if you just want to bring the CDs I think we'll be good
User1: we can fold while we're there  at the booth :)
User7: pleia2 I burned a bunch of CDs for Sunday as well. They are in a box getting delivered to Ian Lynn today.
User1: User7 cool, thanks :)
User12: =o
User12: Somehow it seems cheaper to go to a CD printer and have them make labels and burn cds with Ubuntu then to buy from the Canonical store
User12: =o
User1: cheaper still to have volunteers from the loco burn a bunch and use sleeves we designed: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-california/+junk/2010branding-sleeves
User6: CD fabrication requires an economy of scale that doesn't economically exist for us.  :)
 * pleia2 nods
User1: the pennsylvania loco had a team member with a huge burning machine that would burn like 100 cds at a time, but he didn't buy it for the loco, it was a work thing I think :)
User7: the quick cycles are why suse pulled their box sets from shelves years back
User7: Ernie wanted to build a burn machine for the loco. I would too.
User6: User1 you're right, I don't trust that philipballew either.
User1: hahaha
User3: philipballew, is a real loser :)
User1: philipballew is my BFF this week because he blogged about the san diego jam
User1: (hehe, "BFF this week")
User3: you used it or something :)
User6: hehe
 * philipballew is always out of the loop :)
User6: User3 the joke is that (you can check the logs) no one was talking about you at all before you got here.  :)
User6: (in fact, we were talking about making Ubuntu CDs economically.)
User1: I am still excited about grantbow seeing zebras
User1: I'm telling everyone
 * philipballew left his 100 pack of cd's at scale I hope they went to good use. I saw a zebra at the zoo here once. very nice
User1: User3 the ones that weren't given away at scale were given away at the noisebridge hackerspace, presumably all went to good use :)
User1: at least I didn't see any ISO castles
User3: excellent :) i have 2 in my dorm room. what does iso stand for?
User3: I had a job interview for a network maintainer for the school and they kept asking my computer acronyms like iso. that was one i did not know
User1: I suppose the proper term would be CDs
User8: ISO refers to the fact that proper .iso files are ISO-9660 file systems
User8: International Standards Organization
User6: ISO is a CD image, it refers to the fact that CDs use ISO-9660 as their file system.
User6: User8 get out of my head!
 * philipballew was the only person when asked to name computer parts named raid cards. and even know what raid does
User8: well, International Organization for Standardization
User3: there is a organization for everything.
User3: there is even a organization that determines wifi standards as well
User8: someone's got to
User12: User1 http://i.imgur.com/DLFRX.png <-- Our banner (proof)
User12: =o
User1: User12 nice :)
User3: i'll take the job. i will mandate all essid's be called phil
User6: User12 Ubuntu font? :)
User3: "did you connect to phil yet? " "hold on a sec"
User12: User6 Unfortunately Staples Banner Designer software does not offer that
User12: :D
User12: thats just a mock up
 * bkerensa is gonna use Ubuntu font when he does it in gimp
User6: User12 another good reason to use PDF.  ;)
User3: a local place would do it
User6: Noo!  Inkscape!
User12: User6 Nooo
User1: yeah you want inkscape so you can do vector
User12: Inkscape annoys me :P
User12: LOL
User6: It is your destiny.
 * nhaines breathes.
User12: I cant do Inkscape
User1: ours was sent to the printer as a massive pdf exported from svg
User12: any volunteers?
User12: :D
User12: everyone in our loco is coders :D
User3: do it all in blender bkerensa
User6: needs more lens flare.
User1: if I can do inkscape anyone can
User1: User6 hahaha
User12: User1 This is totally not sexist but Women generally are more artistic then men
User12: :)
User12: that or I just lack the ability
User12: :D
User3: all the women in my woodshop class's in hs kept putting out better things then me.
User12: see!
User12: my wooden bowl I made in woodshop was horrid
User12: :D
User3: the ceramic tux penguin made in ceramics in hs though   AWESOME!!!!
User12: I guess the issue I have with Inkscape is selecting layers
User12: =/
User12: Not as easy as Gimp
User1: User12 haha, I like pink but I do NOT fulfill that stereotype
 * pleia2 useless at art, can't even match clothes
User12: ah jeez getting paged
User6: User12 good news then because Inkscape doesn't have layers!  :D
 * philipballew wore a pink shirt yesterday
User12: User6 Ok elements or whatever? How do I select between a text element and a shape/image etc?
User1: click on it
User6: ^^ this
User3: just make it all in mircosoft publisher bkerensa :)
User1: now I'm really going to talk about philipballew behind his back
User1: (does publisher even exist anymore?)
User3: i was criticized last week for not knowing active directory. or .net
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