User1: back
User1: User2 ok whats output of `ip addr`
User2: stokachu http://paste.ubuntu.com/25373307/
User1: User2 ok, need to update the neutron ubuntu-subnet to use (272)848-2375  instead of 91.69.162.6
User1: User2 thats what im fixing this week
User1: User2 https://github.com/conjure-up/spells/blob/dc937ff23a173f592681918903d02745413ed558/openstack-novalxd/steps/share/neutron.sh#L36-L38 thats what you need to do
User1: replace (272)848-2375 with (272)848-2375
User2: stokachu oh so its not me? lol
User1: oh and ext-net too
User1: User2 yea it's not you
User1: i should have this fixed in the next day or so
User1: you able to wait until then?
User2: i guess, im on vacay anyway, why is it I have this prob? I dont see 100 other ppl posting about it..
User2: ive been dealing with it since last time we spoke..
User1: User2 yea not sure why more people dont post about it
User1: User2 it's definitely broken though
User1: User2 a lot of users use the openstack base with maas
User1: so they have to configure it all themselves anyway
User2: &also would this cause juju to freeze and "try was stopped" after trying to create an instance?
User1: User2 yea there are various other issues with localhost that im fixing
User2: ive had this happen a few times too.
User2: oh ok
User1: yea it is my focus this week to iron all that out
User2: so you saying very few ppl using the conjure-up method?
User1: User2 heh, no that's not what im saying
User1: there are 2 different spells, one uses MAAS the other localhost
User2: I dont have enogh experience to set up everything.
User1: a lot of production users use maas
User1: yea localhost is for you, i just need to fix it :)
User2: well.. this isnt production until i can figure it out :P
User2: lol so I'm a lone localhoster lol
User1: User2 yep, hang out in this channel and ill ping you when i have something for you to test
User1: User2 well also a lot of our focus has been on kubernetes recently
User2: should I switch?
User2: I dont know much about most of it. but I want to learn. but its hard to tell the difference between me goofing up and BROKEN when you arent 100% sure how alot of it is working..
User1: yea understood, i guess the question is what are you trying to do?
User1: is this just for learning?
User2: stokachu, mostly. but I have some private network reasons to play :)
User2: I really just want the controller and the instances to work..
User1: User2 yea understood, ill fix that :)
User1: just need a couple days
User2: so the only reason this doesnt work is because its local host?
User1: User2 no the network is misconfigured for neutron
User1: thats the only piece that is broken
User2: I guess what i am asking is what caused it to misconfigure?
User1: User2 right now we use the auto option when creating lxc network bridges, and in our spell we made the assumption we always control the network bridge network and set it to a fixed value
User1: User2 https://github.com/conjure-up/spells/issues/76 and https://github.com/conjure-up/spells/issues/66 need to be fixed
User1: and https://github.com/conjure-up/spells/issues/50
User1: subscribe to those issues, im going to go back to working on this lxd stuff
User2: ah.ok. I will try to keep irc active on my mobile. thanks for your help, I been banging my head.
User1: User2 np, you can also hop back on https://rocket.ubuntu.com/channel/conjure-up if that's easier from your phone
User2: stocachu, it dont matter, I have android irc on the mobile :)
User3: braziercustoms-m: you missed nothing while you were away
User1: lol
User3: braziercustoms-m: I'm on the security team; I do the standard 'job rotation' duties and main include review audits (well, we call them audits, but they're way too quick to really be _audits_)
User3: braziercustoms-m: we sponsor updates for universe packages that community members prepare and test https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures
User3: braziercustoms-m: likewise, I've been meaning to play with conjure-up for a few months now. hehe.
User3: braziercustoms-m: aye. I've got that too. 30+ tabs on my phone and 235 on my desktop.
User3: lol
User3: mostly stokachu, hehe
User3: braziercustoms-m: heh your nick is certainly familiar but I can only recall conjure-up questions..
User3: braziercustoms-m: not #debian itself, that's way too chaotic for me
User3: I like quiet irc clients :)
User3: braziercustoms-m: yeah, #ubuntu might be better for that, except it's also drinking-from-a-firehose levels of traffic
User2: stokachu i may try your "you need to do this" link from earlier. I guess when its done I need to re- conjure-up a cloud? or can I just restart something?
User1: yea you would re-run conjure-up
User2: stokachu, ok thanks
User2: stokachu in the process of conjure-up now
User2: stokachu this put me back to "cannot retrieve charm blah blah" during conjure-up
User2: this was the problem I was having last time we spoke.
User4: when installing server it detects drives to install to. i have two of the exact same usb keys, one empty and one with the ubuntu server iso on it to install from. will the installer ever ask me to install to the installer usb key?
User4: like if it cant detect another empty usb key, does it detect itself?
User5: good morning
User4: trying to get this USB hub/ethernet adapter working on server
User4: have no idea
User6: Good morning
User4: any of you guys know how to get a usb hub/ethernet adapter working?
User4: i dont even think its recognized. it works in windows so i know its not borked.
User5: User4 it depends a lot on the chipset used in it
User5: User4 you need to hangle through the stages it need to initialize correctly and see where it breaks
User5: User4 so lsusb if it shows up at all (and under which type)
User5: User4 then dmesg on plugging it if it recognized it as network, ...
User4: i dont think it shows up under lsusb
User5: askubuntu is full of cases like this but it always depends on the exact device type
User5: User4 well even if not supported it should show up there
User5: User4 so unplug, sudo lsub > before; plug sudo lsub > after; diff -Naur before after = empty?
User5: if not there it seems more like an electrical issue than anything else and since you say it works in windows ...
User5: at least I never seen anything (but broken devices) to not show up
User5: like a usb disk with a motor damage I once had
User4: lsub is correct?
User5: lsusb
User5: sorry, typing and talking here
User4: ya i get the same output as before i removed it
User5: hmm, odd
User5: and if you run sudo dmesg -w in another console
User5: is ther eanything happening on plug/unplug/plug ?
User4: i dunno. im on server.
User5: User4 sorry - how is the sevrer preventing you from checking dmesg?
User4: its not. i just unplugged it and ran sudo dmesg -w
User4: it did a ton of scrolling and is now stopped with a blinking cursor
User5: the -w is just meant to wait interactively so you can see exactly what is from the unplug/plug
User5: if you only have one session you can run a normal dmesg and report the tail of it
User6: Perhaps watching udev makes more sense at this point.
User4: i just plugged it back in, what should i do next?
User6: `sudo udevadm monitor --environment --udev`
User5: User6 would it show up in udev if it is not appearing in dmesg nor lsub ?
User5: User4 for lordievader and my sugegstion you'd better need more sessions
User6: There are cases, yes.
User5: can you ssh in with a second session
User5: ?
User4: no ethernet lol
User4: need this dongle for that
User5: so you are on what atm - the serial console?
User4: i think so?
User4: lol
User5: you can still get further sessions with ctrl-alt-f1 - ctrl-alt-f5
User4: logged into it with my username and password
User5: log on the f2 one and do the udev watch that lordievader recommended; log onto the f3 one and do the sudo dmesg -w
User5: then unplug/plug
User5: then report back what you got on these two
User4: not sure how to report it
User4: how do i scroll up again?
User4: GenesysLogic_USB.0_Hub looks like the ID-SERIAL
User6: The exact content of the udev command does not matter.
User6: As long as text flies by it means the kernel sees a device.
User4: ya it did
User6: Okay, so it is detected. Anything from the dmesg command?
User4: ya
User4: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/8L8oafLX/irccloudcapture621505530.jpg
User4: not sure how to get you all the output
User6: Those things in red are your problem.
User6: Interestingly it does try to load a module (r8152).
User6: I'd lookup what chip is in there and see if there is a linux driver available.
User4: well was it getting the realtek driver? because the hub has ethernet as well
User6: r8152 sounds like realtek, yes. What do you mean with the hub?
User4: with the hub?
User6: "because the hub has ethernet as well" what hub?
User4: this is a usb hub/ethernet adapter
User5: in one device you mean?
User4: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Ports-USB-3-0-Hub-Gigabit-Ethernet-Lan-RJ45-Network-Adapter-to-1000Mbps-Mac-PC-/262668572762
User4: ya
User6: Ah, right.
User6: Try to find out what kind of chip is in there.
User4: thing didnt really come with any info. hmm
User5: IIRC I had once something like that with a hub that was optionally powered and I got this when plugging without external power
User5: but this doesn't seem to have external pwr
User5: maybe this still is some over-current protection at work, .. hmm
User5: There are plenty of issues like this in the web, but they mostly end at bad HW
User4: ya there is no external power
User5: since you have no external power madLyfe, might your server have old/new usb ports with some having more power?
User4: this is actually a blade
User4: im running it off of the front SUV cable
User4: SUV I/O cable
User5: that might even be USB 1.1 or so
User5: depending on the age (or not) of the blade
User5: center
User4: its a G7
User4: 2014 is the bios date if i remember correctly
User5: but looking at your dmesg, it tries to initialize 2-3.4 even after the issue in red
User5: and I found other posts stating the same
User5: so maybe after all your actual issue is the "Unknown Device" in the realtek driver
User6: User4 Does it work on a recent linux laptop or something?
User5: which gets you back to analyze what chip exactly is used and if there is something for it
User4: it works on windows is all i know. dont run nix other than ubuntu server for my miners.
User6: Perhaps Windows can tell you what chip is in there.
User4: well here it is in windows: http://i.imgur.com/AWIueu5.png
User4: realtek USB GbE family Controller
User6: Search through the driver info for a chipset model.
User4: http://i.imgur.com/6sBIZph.png
User6: I was more refering to the details tab ;)
User4: ya im going through the whole list to see what would help out here
User4: http://i.imgur.com/K1IGARK.png
User4: might be this: http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/productsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=56&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=326
User4: actually it shows it 'registered new interface driver r8152' and not the 8153
User4: at least thats what windows uses
User4: http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=56&PFid=56&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#RTL8153
User6: This might help: https://github.com/rickhofstede/linksys_usb3gigv1_linux
User6: (Funny to see a repo from a supervisor of mine)
User6: Although reading the readme, perhaps not.
User4: for a linksys adapter i think
User6: But you might have the same problem, that the device annouces itself as something else.
User4: i had to pack this project up. i need to pass out. thank you guys for helping me this far!
User4: ill be back at it again tomorrow
User7: Anyone know if this has changed in the last 2 years? https://mariadb.com/kb/en/the-mariadb-library/mysql_config_editor-compatibility/
User8: this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/net-snmp/+bug/1403730
User9: Launchpad bug 1403730 in net-snmp (Ubuntu) "Add support for OpenVZ simfs" [Low,Triaged]
User8: it's fixed in xenial and later
User8: just not in trusty
User8: to record that,
User8: should I nominate for trusty, and then close the ubuntu (artful) task?
User8: even though I'm not really going to prepare a trusty SRU at this time?
User10: User5 sigh, it looks like your nut sru in xenial ftbfs because the debian change to fix 52-nut-usbups.rules -> 62-nut-usbups.rules is also needed (from 2.7.4-1)
User11: User10 User5 re the nut SRU for Xenial, I updated LP: #1099947 with some information. Essentially, I cannot repro on Xenial even before applying -proposed
User9: Launchpad bug 1099947 in nut (Ubuntu Xenial) "driver unable to connect to CyberPower UPS using usbhid-ups driver" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1099947
User11: as if the problem was fixed some other way somewhere after Lucid. There is another LP addressed by that SRU though
User10: User11 ok, good to know. cpaelzer, can you resolve?
User5: User10 I will resolve
User5: but not today
User5: it is on my list
User4: User6 you still around?
User10: User5 thanks
User6: User4 Yes.
User4: you think i can get this usb ethernet adapter working?
User6: No idea, never had one of those devices.
User6: What kernel version do you run?
User4: whatever is with the latest iso i thought it was 4.10 but that wasnt the case on the last install i did unless i forced it to update
User6: You might want to try modprobing that module with the -v option.
User12: USB Ethernet adaptor?  I got a LTE USB adaptor to mount via the option module a few months ago.
User12: Had to echo some ids into a file or something.
User4: User12 if you scroll up a bit it shows our convo a bit. im a nix newb, let along a nix server.
User12: User4 Was some `lsusb` output in the scroll buffer?
User4: one sec, i need to get this machine booted lol was running fine last night.
User12: User4 I found the convo.  I do not think I can add anything.  More critically it is almost time to go home!  gnight y'all.
User13: with iptables --string, is it possible to watch the requesting domain and then forward the port based off it, with both prerouting and postrouting rules?
User11: User13 iptables seems to be the wrong level to do DNS resolution "routing"
User11: User13 what is the problem you are trying to solve?
User13: I have one server 91.69.162.6 with a number of VM's on it.  Each VM has a number of ports that it communicates externally to.  Right now I use iptables to map the ports, for instnace 9300 -> 80 on VM 1, 9400 -> 80 on VM2 etc...,  I'm tyring to set up rules so when it sees name.domain.com it automatically fowards to VM1, other.domain.com to VM2
User13: I could buy external IP's it's cheap, but I'm trying to get away from doing that if I can
User11: and the domain name matching would be done in the HTTP 1.1 packet, is that right?
User13: I'm not entirely sure :S, that's a good question
User13: yes
User11: User13 you seem to want to have multiple vhosts all sharing the same public IPv4
User13: under the host segment of the HTTP heder
User13: yes
User13: and doing the routing based on URL
User13: I can just buy external IP's, it would be great if I didn't have to
User11: User13 in that case, I'd recommend having a reverse proxy (apt-get install nginx) and then use it to do the vhost routing
User13: That might be more difficult and complicated then buying the external IPs, so that might be a better option in the end
User11: User13 with a reverse proxy in place, you could redirect 91.69.162.6:80 and 91.69.162.6:443 to the reverse proxy itself. It would then be able to route the request based on the requested vhost
User13: Ya, I know how the reverse proxy works, but when I think of it that way, I'm better off getting the external IP's
User11: that works too :)
User14: Seems crashplan is pulling the plug on large volume backup users, with various excuses for moving away from home users and over to small business, but again, all existing backups > 5TB will be removed and a new one has to be completed (for "technical" reasons). Anyone that knows a good cloud backup provider that allows 10ish TB without it costing a fortune?
User15: not really on topic for this channel RoyK maybe #ubuntu-offtopic ?
User14: possibly
User16: ok so does pacemaker seem only to me like a big overkill?
User17: User14 I'm moving my "home" servers to something.  still investigating what
User17: for anything production, I wouldn't have been using crashplan home
User14: well, I've had crashplan as a backup of backups, to put it that way
User17: User14 same here
User17: User14 what did you do to centralize your backups
User17: ("stage 1" as it were)
User14: nextcloud and bareos
User4: ok lordievader, what is mod probing?
User8: User10 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25377810/ I'm doing deconstruct (first old/debian rebase), and did that changelog line about adding apparmor
User8: User10 is it ok to decompose that into the second bit in that pastebin, where I detail all that is involved in adding the apparmor profile? And with individual commits?
User8: or should I do this only later, in another phase
User6: User4 the manual loading of a kernel module/driver.
User4: what is the key combo to scroll up an a terminal window that has a bunch of output but is waiting for action?
User4: i did the 'sudo udevadm monitor --environment --udev' and 'sudo dmesg -w' but i didnt get those red errors this time
User4: well as far as i can tell from what is printed on my viewable screen
User4: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/dxOQDvj8/irccloudcapture1666365767.jpg
User4: there is some of the output lordievader
User6: User4 I'm not seeing any mention of the r8153 (or however it was called) module in that output.
User4: how do you see the rest of the data?
User4: lsusb still doesnt show it either
User6: Usually something like ctrl (or al) pg up
User6: No without a driver lsusb wont show it.
User4: oh
User4: how do i probe it or whatever?
User6: User4 sudo modprobe <driver name>
User4: the one it had an error on or the one i think should be there?
User4: cuz it was  r8152
User4: windows says it was  r8153
User6: Yes the one Linux mentioned.
User4: did 'sudo modprobe r8152' and it just went to new line
User6: Anything in dmesg?
User4: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MvWbMtlx/irccloudcapture1992406357.jpg
User4: lordievader ya there is something
User4: hard to get a pic of the output
User6: Or is that old output? Of this morning?
User4: no i had to shut it off
User4: that was from just now
User4: it is plugged in btw
User6: If you run 'sudo lsmod|grep r8152' do you get any output?
User4: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/juXsdUnf/irccloudcapture55180248.jpg
User4: ya
User3: User4 shift page-up / shift page-dn usually works
User4: that doesnt work for the ones that have watched commands on them
User3: hit ^S, do the scrolling, and then when you want the output to resume hit ^Q
User4: no combo of shift/ctrl/alt with page-up/page-dn work
User4: what is ^S?
User3: control+S is the XOFF terminal flow control command. Control+Q is the XON terminal flow command.
User4: that doesnt seem to do anything either
User4: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ddx51HuD/irccloudcapture417442551.jpg
User4: also that, lordievader
User6: User4 This might interest you, you had a different id but it may still be relevant: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg156635.html
User6: Does `ip l` list any new interface?
User4: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/QmQRQvmt/irccloudcapture486192748.jpg
User4: User6
User4: im not sure what that mailing wants me to do exactly
User6: Wait, that server has no nic?
User6: How?
User4: well its a blade
User3: woah
User4: the mez cards removed and i disabled the nics in the bios because im running it out of chassis and open air.
User3: how does it do anything useful without a nic? :)
User3: ah
User10: sigh, i think there is an undocumented behavioral change in the new git in 17.10
User4: im trying to get it ethernet via usb
 * nacc goes and grabs some debdiffs
User6: User4 You have a nic on board and you want to use a usb one? why?
User4: there are no connections. the only way to get internet from that onboard nic is to have a chassis for the blade. which, i dont.
User4: but i have a usb port and a front I/O cable port and this usb hub/ethernet adapter.
User6: Right.
User6: I'd take a latop and try a bunch of kernels to see if it the module is updated or something.
User4: cant i just load onto usb?
User6: If you want to try many kernels it is a better idea to make a dual boot or something.
User6: You might try to do it in a vm, but that  may give its own problems.
User4: how come i need full kernels? cant i just give it a different driver or something?
User4: obv doesnt know how it works
User6: Drivers usually ship along with the kernel.
User4: at that point id almost rather buy another adapter or something
User4: funny thing is ive been looking and havent really come across anyone saying that anything works out of the box with server.
User4: i mean, shouldnt i just try the official drivers on the realtek website?
User4: or am i missing something?
User6: Sure you can try them, if they provide propper instructions
User18: User19 we're ready to promote pike-staging to pike-proposed
User19: ok coreycb on that
User18: User19 ty!
User4: User6 i dont see any instructions lol
User6: Could you give me a link?
User4: http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=56&PFid=56&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#RTL8153
User6: Oh, it has a makefile: make && sudo make install
User6: Note the second command might overwrite an existing module.
User4: do i have to have the adapter connected for this to work, if it does work? i only have so many usb ports to work with here.
User20: hi
User20: I wonder what can cause this https://pastebin.com/3xgLxnhJ
User20: https://github.com/opencart/opencart/blob/2.3.x/upload/admin/controller/extension/modification.php
User20: why cant it unlink
User20: and remove..
User3: User20 compare namei -l /var/www/html/system/storage/modification/system/library/template/tiwg.php output against the uid / gid of the process that is trying to issue the unlink() syscalls
User20: User3 both php and nginx are www-data
User20: and files are root:www-data
User20: and folders also
User20: drwxr-x--- root www-data library
User20: -rw-r----- root www-data tiwg.php
User20: User3 why else permission would be denied?
User20: common causes
User20: maybe selinux issue?
User4: User6 so do i load the .bz2 file onto the usb or just the file inside?
User6: User4 You extract it, build it and install it ;)
User3: User20 in order to delete those files the process would need to be running as root. is it?
User4: "To compile a driver from source code requires the packages linux-headers and build-essential and all their dependencies. They would be very difficult to download and install without an internet connection."
User3: User4 heh, very true :/
User20: User3 all files are chown to root:www-data
User20: since user www-data is in www-data group
User20: he should be able to delete?
User3: User20 drwxr-x--
User20: whats that in numbers?
User20: 750/
User20: ?
User3: interesting I wonder why double-click didn't select the whole thing :(
User20: i use 640 on files
User20: so group can only read...
User20: 750 on dirs
User20: read and write
User4: User3 so im SOL?
User3: User4 maybe; it certainly complicates testing a new module from realtek.
User3: User4 what release are you using? maybe a newer release or HWE kernel would have newer modules
User4: whatever the newest iso is.
User4: got it last week
User4: 4.4 is the kernel
User4: doesnt have the 4.10 kernel for some reason
User20: User3 Warning: fclose() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given in /var/www/html/system/library/log.php on line 14Warning: fclose() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given in /var/www/html/system/library/log.php on line 14 new error
User20: hehe
User20: previous was fixed via -R 770 :)
User10: User4 server or desktop image?
User4: server
User10: User4 the 16.04.3 desktop image should have the 4.10 kernel on it, i believe
User10: User4 ah, then it will have the 4.4 kernel, yes
User10: User4 i would try the live usb of the desktop image
User4: not sure what that means
User10: User4 what which means?
User4: try the live usb of the desktop image
User3: I thought the server images had both to choose from?
User10: User3 i would need to double-check with a live install, but the way it seems to work is the newest server images use the base kernel
User10: User3 and the newest desktop images use the hwe kernel
User4: i upgraded my other server images to 4.10 but that needed internet.
User10: User3 it's yet-another-difference we've seen in #ubuntu
User10: User4 boot the desktop installer (it's a live usb)
User16: can you use ubuntu MAAS to deploy ANY type of server? like create a custom ubuntu desktop setup, and deploy it to 10 physical servers?
User10: User4 don't install it, just see if it works
User4: see if the adapter work on that you mean?
User10: User4 yes
User10: User4 and/or, get the appropriate kernel packages on a different machine and copy them via usb or something
User4: User10 which is the live usb though?
User4: or is it just the normal download?
User20: User3 lol you dislike php/
User20: ?
User20: i got an idea to clone open cart in bubbl
User20: bubble :)
User20: 0 php madness
User19: ok coreycb - pike --> proposed sync is complete
User18: User19 excellent
User4: User10 waiting for it to boot now
User4: ok im in
User4: now to test. i dont have a mouse.
User4: lol
User4: it is not showing up under network connections
User4: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/DKn9SF5s/irccloudcapture1745731693.jpg
User4: User10 not sure where else to check
User2: stokachu it also breaks kubernets core with the cannot retrieve charm. (the you need to do this fix)
User10: User4 i suppose that's what i'd have looked for. You can make sure it is the right kernel from a terminal (`uname -r`) and see if `dmesg` indicates anything is trying to use the wireless device
User4: screen went to sleep and now i cant bring it back up lol
User4: how do you get to a terminal?
User10: User4 hrm, ctrl+alt+t ?
User10: User4 or from the dash -> terminal
User4: you going to be around later? i need a break.
User4: if not, thanks for the help!
User10: User4 yeah, i'm here normally
User10: User21 fyi, https://marc.info/?l=git&m=150351922132158&w=2 means that currently the importer can't be used on artful (well, it will fail when `gbp import-orig` is called)
User10: User21 i'm going to try and rebuild the snap under zesty so the import-cron continues
User4: User10 not sure if it matters but it's not a wireless device. it's just a USB hub with Ethernet.
User21: User10 nice job tracking that down!
User4: if I use a laptop for live boot USB will Ubuntu recognize it's wireless/track pad?
User4: it's a pretty old Sony one. I guess a have a old Dell laptop as well.
User10: User21 yeah, it was almost immediate failure in the importer when git rolled out (and the snap was rebuilt) to artful. I think my reasoning is sane, but reading some of the git-ML discussions about branch renames is crazy :)
User10: User4 oh sorry, i assumed wifi
User21: User10 btw, technically there's no such thing as Ubuntu 17.10. It has a codename only until it's brandonbradley@example.com. If the release is delayed (eg. 6.06), then the presumed name would be wrong.
User10: User21 oh interesting, didn't realize that
User10: User21 will amend future e-mails :)
User1: User2 sudo snap refresh conjure-up --edge
User1: Just pushed some updates
User2: ooooooooow
User1: Still work to do but it now relies on lxd snap
User1: Oh, and sudo snap refresh lxd --candidate
User1: It needs 2.17
User2: oh.. so will I still have host issue?
User2: stokachu,  sudo snap refresh lxd --candidate
User2: error: cannot refresh "lxd": cannot find snap "lxd"
User2: install?
User20: folks
User2: stokachu do I need to install and possibly remove the apt default?
User20: do you have some ideas for new cool foss software?
User20: or even enthusiasm to do current job well :)
User20: where is the vigor the drive of linux>
User20: lol
User10: User20 seems like a topic for #linux or any number of other channels
User20: including this  one :)
User20: or this one dont suppose to have any vigor? :P
User20: ubuntu is most popular distro
User2: hehehe I like ubuntu because I started out with debian :P
User2: I got stuck as admin to a vservers machine lol
User20: i have used various distros and find Ubuntu top notch
User1: User2 sudo snap install lxd --candidate
User1: User2 if you aren't using the apt one remove those
User1: sudo apt remove lxd lxd-client
User2: hehehe while repairing automation, robotics, and CNC.  I also ended up writing tracking software to track repair jobs for the company i was working for.
User2: stokachu, oh thank electrons, thats what I have already done :P
User2: stokachu, however something is fishy.. if I do lxd --version I get -bash: /usr/bin/lxd: No such file or directory
User3: User20 yeah, I can't stand php. it encourages unsafe programming practices. maybe php7 is less crazy than previous php releases but nearly everything that's written in php is crap.
User1: User2 hash -r
User1: If that fails make sure /snap/bin is in your path
User3: User2 'hash -r'
User3: hah
User20: User3 emotions imo should be put aside sometimes
User3: thats what I get for having to check the manpage first..
User20: php may encourage whatever - however many cool apps are in it
User20: User3 plus I nearly made new programming language
User20: compiler apart lol
User20: in my view all 1.0 programming language are about same
User2: stokachu, that fixed it :)
User2: the lxd issue anyway
User20: i just saw
User20: You have no errors, how cool is that!
User20: lol
User20: User3 have you every wrote a compiler?
User20: for any lanuage
User3: User20 "sort of"; twenty years ago I wrote a toy compiler for a toy language that ran on a toy VM
User20: nice
User20: how to you translate AST into machine code?
User20: so say parser - ast - machine code lol
User3: for every node, issue commands to load or store arguments from registers or spill space; once the arguments are in place, issue the command opcode
User2: stokachu, I get to "choose one or more additional items to add to your cloud and its blank. I continue and its "where would you like to deploy" but I have no highlighted item unless I hit tab then it highlights "quit" tab again and nothing is highlited..... :(
User2: localhost is listed, but I cant highlight it
User20: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0471976970/?tag=stackoverfl08-20
User20: 2.69$$$
User20: thats cheap
User3: wow that's -really- cheap
User20: hehe
User20: User3 so maybe its wise to use LLVM?
User3: User20 yes, llvm has a huge amount of infrastructure already existing
User2: stokachu, HA aparently I can still select it with my mouse :D
User20: User3 https://gnuu.org/2009/09/18/writing-your-own-toy-compiler/
User20: :)))
User3: User20 wow that looks like a fantastic introduction. llvm 2.6 is ancient by now :/ but hopefully a lot that's there is still good.
User20: :)
User2: if you have played with c, c++, and basic (on commodore64) and some machine code (on an old industrial processors) what would be best to dip in next? hehehe / sarnold?
User20: User2 well you can help me to figure out which mistake of mine or a module developer botched 1 OC module implementation :P
User20: or whatever you like to do
User3: User2 I've really loved learning about rust; it's got an enormously powerful type system that prevents many classes of bugs entirely; it feels both like a very-high-level language and low-level language brandonbradley@example.com. The learning curve is a bit steep but it's incredibly powerful once you're familiar with the borrow checker.
User20: I simply feel driven to make simple programming language for myself :)
User2: stokachu, I got same issue I got when I patched the neutron.sh file last night.. failed to get charm
User3: User20 you may wish to consider writing a forth interpreter as a starting point; I've heard it is a pleasant enough language to write a little interpreter for
User2: hehehe, I could try lol
User2: sarnold, rust? never heard of it..  any think well known its used in?
User20: when as teenaged I read Napoleon Hill accounts of a power of group mind I did believe it however now I also experience the effects of it more
User20: group mind can be really powerful
User20: or what people call brain storming
User2: sarnold, I dont know why but I always avoided forth
User3: User2 mozilla, dropbox, parity, red hat's stratis project..
User20: User3 I sense the best learning experience for me would be write compiler for simple
User20: the language I made making
User20: and start using it :)
User20: then i can see more
User3: User2 forth's not -really- popular, I'm not surprised. I always heard the hp48 language was sort of like forth, so I've had a soft spot for forth as a result :) but never learned it enough to use it myself
User20: User3 and that book we talked about -anatomy of programming languages
User20: was also cool
User20: explained stuff well
User3: nice
User2: sarnold, dropbox and mozilla wow..
User20: and writer listed her work and personal emai
User20: to contact her if wanted :)
User2: i use dropbox
User20: *email
User20: westorefiles.com sounds nice
User20: storify :)
User20: struber
User20: User2 yes as to open cart for some reason 1 module yet to work, I wrote develop to see if he can assist, and another module - I paid for it and go 0
User20: may do paypal dispute lol
User20: however apart of that all works
User20: http://www.parrot.org/
User1: User2 you got a screenshot of the view where you couldnt move forward with the keyboard?
User1: User2 the failed to get charm is something else not related to neutron
User2: stokachu, the failed to get charm did not start back until i did your "you need to do this git" link
User2: stokachu, and continued though your "refresh --edge"
User1: User2 thats after you get an openstack stood up
User2: stokachu, I didnt understand that last sentence
User2: stood up?
User1: User2 you are running neutron commands but are talking about charms not being downloaded
User1: so those are 2 different things
User2: stokachu, I dont have screenshot..  also I am not running any commands, except conjure-up. it fails at failed to get charms
User2: just like it did last night after your "do this" patch
User1: User2 ok can you `pastebinit ~/.cache/conjure-up/conjure-up.log`
User1: and `juju status --format yaml|pastebinit`
User2: stokachu, sure
User2: stokachu,  pastebinit ~/.cache/conjure-up/conjure-up.log
User2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25379453/
User2: stokachu, on the secode one, I alredy destroyed the unusable controller.. shoud I do it again?
User2: stokachu, second*, should*
User2: stokachu our timings are terrible lol, I need to leave soon
User20: :)
User20: wtf
User2: bu tI will answer what I can from mobile lol
User2: hehehe stop watching me hehe :P
User20: well I also wrote a new language sample syntax
User20: :)
User2: hehehe I am currently on vacation, not vacationing lol
User20: then why do u use irc
User20: it means u love it
User20: so just stay here lol
User1: yea im not sure why it's failing to download those charms
User1: User2 can you `juju controllers|pastebinit`
User2: i do love it, and i will stay here but.. i will be less availible.. androidirc lol
User1: User2 ok ping me when you get back to a machine
User2: stokachu, there are no controllers now
User2: ERROR No controllers registered
User1: User2 do `rm -rf ~/.local/share/juju`
User1: and start again with conjure-up
User2: otw :)
User2: still had to use mouse (note I'm on remote ssh terminal) but deploy 14 instead of 15?
User2: stokachu ^^ and bootstrapping juju now
User2: (before I leave lol)
User22: Whats the generic intel controller sas/scsi driver?
User2: stokachu, if this fails, when I get back home (tomorrow afternoon) Would access to this machine be benificial to you?
User1: User2 yea if you can get me that
User1: i can look into it
User2: stokachu, it failed @ get charm.  pastebinit ~/.cache/conjure-up/conjure-up.log
User2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25379540/
User1: you're getting a bunch of timeouts to the charmstore
User2: juju controllers | pastebinit
User2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25379544/
User1: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/yRw8vSCQ/
User2: stokachu, whats that?
User1: User2 failure in networking
User2: why?
User1: User2 not sure
User1: User2 try this `juju bootstrap localhost lxd-test`
User1: then try `juju deploy ghost`
User1: if that fails then it's not a conjure-up issue and probably not a juju problem since it is failing to query the charmstore
User1: so if you are behind a firewall then you could see this issue
User1: are you behind anything like that?
User2: stokachu, ok but before. I can boootstrap a juju controller, but I couldnt destroy it I had to unregister.
User1: User2 unregister?
User20: Request timed out
User20: hehe
User1: User2 you usually only register to jaas controller
User2: stokachu, controller failed at destroy
User2: so to get off list unregister
User2: ?
User20: does it have privileges needed to destroy?
User2: so when I conjure-up there wasnt a bunch of controllers listed
User1: right they all got cleared out
User1: are you behind a firewall?
User2: firewall on machine is disabled, i am behind a reouter to the ouside web
User2: 91.69.162.6 gateway
User1: User2 ok can you try the juju commands i posted
User2: ok
User1: `juju bootstrap localhost lxd-test` and `juju deploy ghost`
User2: stokachu, its in process, but last time I tried it all worked except when I tried to destroy, it would not communicate with the ip
User2: currently "Attempting to connect to 91.69.162.6:22"
User2: no, get error, 1 sec i will post
User2: stokachu, ERROR storing charm for URL "cs:ghost-20": cannot retrieve charm "cs:ghost-20": cannot get archive
User2: Get https://api.jujucharms.com/charmstore/v5/ghost-20/archive?channel=stable: dial tcp: lookup api
User2: ujucharms.com on 91.69.162.6:53: read udp 91.69.162.6:46302->91.69.162.6:53: i/o timeout
User2: sorry tried t pastebinit but got empty file error
User2: stokachu, is it a typo what is ujujucharms.com
User2: "ookup api ujucharms.com"
User2: lol "lookup api ujucharms.com"
User1: yea you got some network issues going on
User2: mine or conjures
User2: stokachu, ^^
User1: yours, we're just trying to access that url
User1: User2 what does lxc list show?
User2: but i can juju ssh # and google.com
User2: stokachu, Connection refused; is LXD running?
User1: what does `which lxc` show
User2: stokachu, /usr/bin/lxc
User1: User2 ok did you `sudo apt remote lxd lxd-client` like before?
User2: stokachu, yes
User1: sudo apt remove lxd lxd-client
User1: User2 what does `dpkg -l lxd` show
User2: then i removed the snap version and reinstalled
User2: stokachu, dpkg -l lxd | pastebinit
User2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25379651/
User1: User2 what about `dpkg -l lxd-client`
User2: stokachu, going mobile \may be way less avail
User1: k we can talk tom
User2: stokachu,  dpkg -l lxd-client | pastebinit
User2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25379654/
User1: ok you didnt actually remove lxd-client it looks like
User2: leaving this for log, stokachu I apt-get purgeed lxd
User1: you need to do both lxd and lxd-client
User2: shart
User2: stokachu, purged client, and restarts
User2: ant?
User2: any?
User2: tell braziercustoms-m
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