User1: how do i become op?
User2: User1 I don't believe there are any active calls for new Operators, but more information can be found on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements
User1: to User2 can you give me op? if you right click on my name and go to mode then give half or give op. and why does everyone have yellow dots?
User2: User1 no, it doesn't work that way. And the dots colors depend on the client you use.
User1: like...
User2: like I use irssi, so I don't see yellow dots by people.
User1: hey are you are ubuntu?
User2: User1 perhaps you should check the documentation on whatever client you're using
User2: User1 yes?
User3: The yellow dots probably represent voice, rather than op.
User1: well can you do the share desktop thing to my computer?
User2: User1 For what purpose? In theory, I could. I don't want to, however.
User1: can you please? i need you to help me with something so that you can see my cp as i do it.
User2: User1 no, this isn't a support related room. Do you have any other questions about the OP process? If not, please feel free to /part the channel
 * h00k shrugs
User4: User2 see !canibeanop
User2: User4 *that* is what it is. I always forget that one
User5: Feel free to add a better alias.
User4: User5 would be hard to find better less "ugly" alias to that
User2: perhaps !opme or something
User2: !opprocess
User5: !helphelpimbeingoppressed
User4: haha
 * persia hands Pici some repression as a side dish
User2: yeah...I considered that after :)
User4: !canihaveops
User2: an African Swallow?
User4: !canihaveops is <alias> canibeanop
User6: I'll remember that, gpc
User4: !canihaveop is <alias> canibeanop
User4: fine don't
 * gpc :P and :(
User2: d'aw
 * h00k pats gpc on the back
User4: User2 can you right click on my name and give me op or half op :P
 * persia points out that not all clients have such "right-click" functionality.
User4: User3 then such clients are not full clients :)
User2: when I right click, I get terminal options :) (irssi)
User4: like building a car without seat belts
 * persia stoutly defends irssi
User4: !canihaveop is <alias> canibeanop
User3: gpc, Note that not all mice have right buttons (and not all pointing devices have buttons at all)
User4: why do I not get a response?
User4: User3 a one button mouse is like a pool cue without chalk
 * persia has a zero-button pointing device
 * persia has a different 37-button pointing device
 * persia thinks button count is a matter of personal preference
User4: 37 buttons?
User3: Well, that one is a bit extreme, maybe :)
User6: In #ubuntu, ubuntu_ said: ubottu, am getting this error  Its like this "Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and its use is discouraged.."
User5: User6 hug!
User5: :(
User4: !hug
User4: hmm, shame :/
User3: Didn't that get removed because of excessive use in some context?
User4: probably
User7: User4 you won't get multiple "I'll remember that, ..." responses because of the (somewhat limited and hackish) flood protection in Encyclopedia
User8: bantracker seems to have multiple entries for a guest account (removed for using an irc script in #ubuntu)
User9: indeed. The list of removals and the ban accurately reflect reality, afaict.
 * rww expected ubottu PM, munches cookie instead
User10: @mark Smrad #ubuntu f-bomb and n-word after being told off for first use of f-bomb
User6: The operation succeeded.
User9: @help mark
User6: (mark [<channel>] <nick|hostmask> [<comment>]) -- Creates an entry in the Bantracker as if <nick|hostmask> was kicked from <channel> with the comment <comment>, if <comment> is given it will be uses as the comment on the Bantracker, <channel> is only needed when send in /msg
User10: grrr
User10: @mark #ubuntu Smrad f-bomb and n-word after being told off for first use of f-bomb
User6: The operation succeeded.
User9: if you make that mistake in PM, it errors out instead ;)
 * rww knows, because he does it /constantly/
User11: You can avoid these problems by not marking things!
User9: . @mark #ubuntu-ops tonyyarusso encouraging newbie ops to be bad ops
User11: hehe
User8: <r00t4rd3d> go in the ubuntu channel and tell someone how to set root pass and they will kick/ban you
User8: quelle surprise
User12: Wunderbar.
User8: so using other channels to encourage users to troll #ubuntu  ( ##linux in this case)
User12: Haters gonna hate.
User8: hehe
User6: Gnea called the ops in #ubuntu (blakez is offtopic, abusive and generally not a nice person.)
User13: hey, just doing research for my freenode group, what code is ubottu based on?
User14: supybot
User12: User13 Supybot.
User12: User13 launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
User13: strange, that link talks about their being more than one, and yet only talks about on on the page. Am I missing "page 2"?
User12: The code is under 'Code'.
User13: jpds looking more for explanation of features like the bulleted list for ubottu, especially for meetingology, not needed for -br or fr...
User13: anything to add? jpds ?
User8: JackyAlcine, hi
User15: Good afternoon (UTC).
User8: JackyAlcine, thanks for joining.
User15: No problem.
User8: JackyAlcine, enabling illegal acts is not something we allow in any ubuntu namespace
User15: But we permit Aircrack-NG to be shipped in Ubuntu's repos.
User8: just as if someone wants to crack wifi, use an unsupported derivative, or what not, asking for help does not override the guidelines, and the various channel policies and rules
User15: Hm.
User8: indeed, and if you visit #aircrack-ng (also on freenode) and ask "how can I crack my neighbor's wifi" you'll get booted
User8: its more than just Ubuntu namespace policy, but freenode wide
User8: piracy, cracking etc
User15: Hm, so in that case, if you're going to something "illicit", better off searching on Google?
User8: indeed. or join a network that has no sane policies, unlike freenode.
User15: Alright.
User15: Have a good time, then.
User8: thanks
User16: hah
User17: erm
User8: bit surprised as he's in some team or another
User17: what is actually the reason aircrack-ng is allowed to be in the repos?
User16: it's  valid diagnostic tool
User8: pen testing?
User16: yes
User16: the only diff between white-hat and black-hat is the intent.
User17: their website clearly states that it's a cracking tool before they mention it's a diagnostic tool
User16: So their marketing department needs to be fired. It is still a diagnostic tool.
User17: mm-hmm. just wondering what the info in the repository says.. if it says "a cracking tool", then i understand the point JA made
User17: mmh
User8: !info aircrack-ng
User6: aircrack-ng (source: aircrack-ng): wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-1 (maverick), package size 1541 kB, installed size 2776 kB
User17: yeah.
User17: maybe somebody needs to reconsider
User8: ?
User8: somebody being whom?
User16: would you believe to evaluate cracking vulnerabilities, you need to actually try crack stuff?
User17: bazhang, a motu? :)
User16: any network device has the same capacity
User17: elky, i understand, but it's still a bit awkward
User16: not really
User8: knome, perhaps you missed the whole context of this, vis a vis who was discussing this
User8: knome, he specifically said he was doing "phishy" "illegal acts" "I'd rather not say" "PM me for details"
User8: pcfreak30 in this instance
User8: nothing to reconsider. he was asking for help with illegal acts.
User17: bazhang, yeah, i missed that conversation :) - but anyway, was just wondering how the repositories so clearly states it's a cracking tool, and not for example, "diagnostic tool"
User17: i don't disagree about the decision
User8: knome, then you missed the reason for his response "but we have potentially can be illegally used tools in the repos, therefore we should offer assistance when people ask"
User8: for help with their self-confessed "illegal , phishy acts"
User17: bazhang, i got that ("But we permit Aircrack-NG to be shipped in Ubuntu's repos.")
User17: i don't think that's a completely solid argument
User17: but why does the package info say it's a cracking tool?
User8: he wanted help with something illegal. we dont support it.
User17: i understand and agree.
User8: so nothing to reconsider
User17: no, not about how he was handled.
User17: oh well, forget it...
User17: maybe we should edit the pkg info for x-chat to "this is a tool by which you can troll and annoy people to get eventually banned from the ubuntu channel"
User18: User13 anything else you need?
User18: User13 for furether information about the bots, please join #ubuntu-bots
User19: please accdept
User8: tartarfoofas, pardon?
User19: did you get the DCC
User19: magnetron sputtering system?
User8: tartarfoofas, this is not the correct channel for that; did you need some Ubuntu help?
User19: I will open ports and try again. thank you for your cooperation .
User5: Its a forward.
User8: he's in #ubuntu
User5: oh, perhaps its not.
User9: Pici, User8 it's a Hoober, more like.
User5: User9 Same person?
User8: rww, sounds right
User4: looks like his crazy style
User9: 2010-10-13.log:00:08:52 -!- Hoober [~marycampbell@example.net] has joined #ubuntu-offtopic
User9: anyways, work time
User10: @mark #kubuntu BajK_ language on quit message
User6: The operation succeeded.
User5: User10 We usually do banforwards to here in those cases.
User20: ...which would neet the comment too
User20: but ye, banforward
User10: ok i think i just set one
User4: done 36894
User10: huh?
User10: it was 36893...
User4: oh I didn't see you set it on nick
User4: i'll remove mine
User10: i set it so that if they didnt have teh _ at the end of the nick this time, itd still apply
User4: ahh I didn't notice because you set it in #k :)
User21: User22 seems to have turned it off. If it happens again ban it.
User22: Why do people get insulted when I ask them to use full sentences, proper capitalization, and proper punctuation?
User12: User22 Laziness.
User21: Not everybody is a native English speaker, rederecting them to the channel of their native tongue would be better imo
User12: I prefer my answer.
User21: you would :P
User9: why so idle
User12: User9 Idle Relay Chat, yeaaaaaaaaaaaah.
User21: znc went offline
User9: switch to irssi it has 102% uptime
User22: User21 I understand non-native speakers getting punctuation and sentence structure wrong, but some people obviously aren't even trying.
User21: uptime with my znc is very good actually but my host needed to reboot
User21: User22 I saw the question the asked and I also had a hard time understanding them.
User21: they*
User9: to answer your question, #ubuntu is currently full of silly people. that's why.
User12: s/#ubuntu/the world/
User4: this one is growing on my
User4: s/my/me
User23: Can anyone please delete a paste I made on paste.ubuntu.com?
User23: I accidentally exposed important personal data
User16: we don't run it. canonical does.
User23: So how can I get it removed ASAP
User23: I exposed my password in a paste
User22: User23 Change your password, wherever you use it.
User23: I've used that password *everywhere* since 2006
User22: Even if you manage to get the post removed you should *still* do that.
User23: granted, it's encoded in the post, but still easily decodable
User22: User23 If you are using this shared password for things which are important, like bank logins or your own remotely accessible machine, then change those (and don't ever use a shared password for such things in the future).
User23: I'm using this password for both things you just mentioned
User22: I'm sorry I can't be of more help with getting the post removed, but you really need to consider the password already compromised if you use it for anything important.
User23: Yes, I'm changing it now
User22: User23 That is a terrible idea, you should not do that in any circumstance.
User23: starting with the bank account
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