User1: greg-g is rich! http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/05/11/1229222/study-reveals-wikimedia-foundation-is-awash-in-money
User2: and he is also ver handsome and talented
User3: well he was hiring
User3: there you go :)
User4: its sad this made it on /. since it isn't new news, its old news.
User4: the "stop giving to wikipedia" has been around for a while.
User4: and both linked articles are from Dec. /. fail.
User3: I never get why 'they have some $$ stop giving' thing is so out there
User4: well over 100, looks like 200+ http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff_and_contractors at $100k/ea, which is way too low for reasonable living in northern california, that is 20M$/yr. Suddenly that 50M looks low.
User5: User3 I've never understood the whole "you should be struggling if you're asking for money" bit.
User4: yeah, look at the Komen Foundation. :)
User2: zingggg
User4: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Software_Foundation#Financials  half million dollars to write evil java code! stop giving. :)
User1: I would keep giving even if they have money. Once they get a big enough stockpile they can engage in projects they couldn't before
User4: User1 exactly!
User4: i just recently noticed audio clips on wikipedia pages about bands. Totally sweet.
User5: Dammit, something happened an my GTD list is now a 0 length file
User5: and the backup is also a 0 length file.
User1: I mean, if I didn't support them, I wouldn't be giving them money to beging with. What's the point of stopping support?
User1: User5 Restore from your cloud backup
User5: User1 I'm restoring from my local backup
User5: synology
User5: and yes, i need a cloud backup
User1: barbaric!
User5: Might check out tarsnap
User1: How do you live in SF for under $100,000?
User5: You have to huddle around each other to catch the stray oxygen folks exhale.
User1: ouch
User5: when you have to sublet your bathroom to make ends meet...
User4: greg-g: it doesn't matter. i'd hope many engineers make well over $100k. A little over $100k seems a reasonable median for estimation.
User1: Is there airbnb for potties?
User5: Yah, I'd want to be paid in CA wages and live in MI. ;)
User4: minimum by law? how does that work?
User5: User4 You forget that CA is the prototype for AA
User5: all sorts of labor laws and what-not.
User4: User5 oh man, I WISH AA would set minimum pay, but then business would move to just outside AA
User4: that kind of thing works better ate state level
User5: True dat
User1: And in big states where you can't communite in/ou easily
User5: and unfortunately Detroit / AA is an island of liberal in a sea of conservative
User4: ugh, don't remind me. Our state congress makes me angry
User5: User4 About the only thing our state congress could do that would make me happy is not show up
User5: Anything more and they manage to fuck things up
User5: Yeah, like Detroit City taxes
User5: Cities have certain powers.
User5: most choose not to though
User5: SF is the exception because SF is always the exception
User5: User3 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/403524037/autonomous-desk-the-smartest-office-desk-yet-power/description
User4: did much of ya'll order a CHIP ?
User5: I thought about it but passed
User5: I already have two Pis and a BBB that I struggle to find uses
User4: User5 when I saw integrated wifi and BT, I was won over.
User4: and 3.7v
User5: User4 I'll have to see it then
User5: if I miss the kickstarter I won't be upset
User4: i don't think it ships until december. I'll show you in about a year :)
User5: but if they don't sell them afterward I'll be bummed
User4: me too
User3: User5 no walking component :P
 * rick_h_ has no idea what CHIP is so nope
User5: User3 Oh, then it's completely defective. :)
User3: User5 pretty much :)
User5: CHIP is a $9 single-board computer
User3: interesting, no cross stretcher on that desk
User3: not sure about that
User5: with options for incorporating into a $49 LCd / keyboard docking portable unit
 * rick_h_ wouldn't trust that design
User1: User5 My current rpi/bb project is a stereoscopic remote presence robot with a google cardboard app
User5: Yeah, it looks like a Gallant
User5: User1 that is awesome.
User3: so in my desk the motor is on one side and there's a wrench to move the two ends in sync with a stretcher across the legs to provide side to side rigidity
User4: User1 please tell me more. sounds likea  sweet robot.
User1: Building on the single webcam rpi stuff I did last year. The rpi will have 2 webcams placed eye-width apart. they will stream over the network, probably mjpeg. I'll then build a kivy app which puts the streams side by side so using google cardboard it will be 3D
User1: well, stereoscopic
User5: That's pretty sweet
User1: Next steps would be controls to turn the "head" by moving the cardboard
User4: oh! that is what google cardboard is :)
User1: cardboard is ghetto oculus rift
User1: then mount it on a rolling robot to move it around
User1: Then mount the eyes on a slider so you can spread them farther apart for trippy experiences
User5: And if the bot goes down the stairs you can have a really trippy experience.
User1: hah
User1: I wonder if I could get far enough along to be comfortable with submitting it to pyohio (may 15)
User5: Give yoursef a deadline
User5: Worst case you'll have to cancel
User1: Well my deadline is may 15
User1: I think if I can make both streams work and at least 1 show on a basic kivy app I'll be ok
User3: interesting https://twitter.com/Osmose/status/598189285217406976
User5: Can't argue
User5: http://crashworks.org/if_programming_languages_were_vehicles/
User1: Not bad
User5: Yeah, though I think C++ is a little off
User5: Should be a tank in a swamp.
User4: C++ would never be a vehicle, its a trick analogy!
User4: or... C++ would be a tesla model S :)
User5: User4 More like a box of parts that you can roll downhill
User4: hrm... ok, C++98 is a box of parts. C++17 is a tesla model S :)
User5: I dunno. I've never thought of C++ as a particularly great language. It always feels like a hassle to use.
User5: Like adding a 12ft high spoiler to an otherwise performant sportscar.
User4: modern c++ is very nice.
User4: the problem is legacy
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