User1: hey
User1: channel is dead
User2: orionsonofneptun, desrt probably went to bed ;-)
User1: hmm no late nighters here
User3: User2 eh?
User1: try #techtalk101
User4: It is still day time for some, a work day for many, and those who work on Ubuntu in this timezone tend to be busy with things that don't require chatter on IRC. :)
User4: bryceh, RAOF, have either of you seen bug 959928? If so, can I consider it under review/taken care of? If not, who would like to be subscribed?
User4: I'd consider sponsoring, but you guys know the code better, and there is the git repo in Debian to be updated... :)
User5: User4 I can handle that if you're patch-piloting.
User4: I am patch piloting.
User5: It looks correct to me.
User4: Ok cool.
User4: User5 So do you want me to do anything with that?
User5: I'll handle it.
User6: User7 do you have an opinion on https://code.launchpad.net/~tkluck/ubuntu/precise/gnome-shell/lp883443/+merge/98471
User7: yes.
User8: ah, that's better, good evening cyphermox
User4: User5 Thanks.
User7: Guest72586: ah, hey
User7: so, I do have an opinion, not sure what it is yet.
User4: User9 I just threw a gnome-shell sponsorship request your way, if you could have a look at it, that would be much appreciated.
User9: User4 and I just deferred it to cyphermox :)
User4: User9 heh ok. :)
User7: it's unclear to me that this is really needed. I certainly don't recall the network disconnected notification to be any special
User7: although if it's not disappearing there's definitely an issue
User7: User9 User4 I'll look at it in a minute, just trying to get a weird IP address check right
User9: I believe it disappears if you click it or something, I'm running Unity this week for Docs
User7: right, I haven't loaded up shell in a while but planned to today
User4: No hurry, I just referred to you guys during my pilot session.
User7: ok
User7: let it be on record that I truly hate manually converting ip address structs to strings ;)
User4: heh
User10: lol
User1: anyone here
User1: hey top
User1: try #techtalk101
User11: good morning
User3: User11 hello!
User11: User3 hey ;) kind of late for you!
User3: indeed
User11: still on this g-c-c/g-s-d stuff? :)
User3: it would be a lot easier if you'd upgrade metacity =)
User12: good morning didrocks
User11: hey kenvandine ;)
User3: User12 late, isn't it? :)
User12: desrt, don't remind me :)
User3: User11 why gtk_range_get_event_window()?
User12: hehe... mterry said "This yak is big" is a merge proposal
User11: User3 missing context :)
User3: User11 you added a vendor patch to gtk
User3: no explanation, no upstream bug link
User11: is it really me? /me looks :)
User3: 075_expose_gdkwidget_for_gtkrange.patch
User3: From: Didier Roche <sheamelissa@example.org>
User3: Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 18:54:44 +0200
User11: yeah, it's a patch from Cody I guess
User11: oh I remember now
User11: User3 hey ;) kind of late for you!https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=631695
User11: see the bug above  ^
User11: there is a bug linked, which has the upstream link :p
User11: I did this in the gtk2 -> gtk3 transition for hooking again ido
User11: http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=171960
User11: for the git-format patch
User13: Good morning
User14: pitti, good morning
User14: pitti, i hope you are feeling better?
User13: slightly, thanks; the fever is gone
User13: still feeling a bit weak
User14: sounds promising though
User14: so take it easy today
User11: good morning pitti
User11: happy that you are feeling better, take it easy for today :)
User13: bonjour didrocks
User13: User11 merci :)
User11: de rien :)
User15: didrocks, I seem to recall that you had a schedule somewhere for when unity versions would land?
User15: if so, could you please paste me a link when you get a free moment?
User11: User15 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/ReleaseSchedule
User11: the 5.10 release is not set yet on the schedule
User11: (and maybe a 5.12 depending on how 5.8 goes)
User15: thanks didrocks
User11: yw :)
User15: didrocks, so, a release is due this week?
User15: are you getting ample support for testing it?
User11: User15 well, there are still branches that are to be delivered
User11: despite some emails from Monday asking for getting things in/reviewed
User15: so it may not make beta 2 freeze?
User11: and upstream tests done
User11: so I guess we can't crowdsource the testing
User15: I think it means that we can't test it, unless we get an exception for beta 2 freeze
User11: and I'm trying to get some dx people to help testing then
User11: to still be on time
User11: but right now, I don't get a lot of answersâ¦
User16: pitti, hi
User13: hello tkamppeter
User16: pitti, I have done Ubuntu-only uploads of cups and cups-filters yesterday, but now I need cups-filters 1.0.7 (ready on BZR) to be uploaded to Debian as on the #ghostscript channel a Debian user showed up and needs to debug a problem. 1.0.7 contains a debug mode which we need.
User13: User16 sure, can upload it
User16: pitti, OK, thanks.
User15: is anybody else finding the overlay scrollbars to be jankier than usual in 12.04 these days?
User15: I assume it's track pad related
User13: sometimes I find them a bit erratic, but I can't put my finger on what exactly
User13: User16 uploaded, synced
User13: User11 gnome-themes-standard wasn't syncable?
User16: pitti, thanks.
User13: User11 and gnome-system-monitor not mergeable?
User11: User13 we weren't in sync for gnome-themes-standard, so I didn't really look TBH
User13: ah, I expect that Debian's 3.3.92-1 shouldn't be much different from our's
User11: and same for g-s-t
User11: shouldn't, yeah
User11: i can have a look later today
User13: g-s-t probaly has a lp-i patch (thus merge)
User11: I tried to get the max update I could do in the morning before the pingy machine is back
User11: (which is the case now)
User17: hey
User13: bonjour seb128, ca va?
User17: oh, a pitti!
User13: User17 great work on 3.3.92!
User17: pitti, hey, ca va bien ! what about you ?
User17: pitti, User11 thanks for dealing with the remaining updates
User13: User17 you are way off on the bug counter now :) great work
User13: User17 the fever is gone, so I'm back
User17: pitti, great
User13: doing a few updates ATM
User18: User13 I'm pleased you are feeling better
User17: pitti, bug counter: yeah, I collect some GNOME 3.3.92 extra points, though I would have happily shared some of the 40 updates I did in 2 days and the attached bugs
User17: collected
User17: well, at least it's mostly done now ;-)
User11: User17 yw ;) salut!
User17: lut didrocks
User13: User17 yeah, sorry :/ bad infection
User13: User17 my teeth are relatively fine, I guess I caught an infection during the operation or so
User13: I updated the pad for the things I'm working on
User17: pitti, nothing to be sorry about, I'm glad your fever is gone, the infection probably tamed down
 * seb128 hugs pitti
 * pitti hugs back seb128
User13: User17 hm, did you remove gedit-plugins from the pad?
User13: or was that me, accidentally?
User17: pitti, yes, I saw that "Andrew Starr-Bochicchio" did it this night on -changes
User17: cheese as well
User13: hm, we have 3.2.2
User17: pitti, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/gedit-plugins/3.3.4-0ubuntu1
User13: err, sorry, that was eog-plugins
User17: ?
User13: nevermind me
User17: pitti, ok, all good, eog-plugins is still to do
User13: User17 I just did that one
User17: gedit-plugins could also probably be done in debian and synced I think
User13: gedit itself isn't in experimental yet
User17: but well we have the current version now so we can wait as well
User17: pitti, oh ok, so yeah, let's wait
User13: I'll grab some more
User17: pitti, btw we can probably delete gnome-utils from the archive now
User17: we got the remaining standalone components yesterday
User17: didrocks, the zg updates are published in Debian if you want to sync them
User11: User17 yeah, I'll do that in a few, still on the morning discussion pre-unity preparation
User17: didrocks, no hury
User17: pitti, ok, I reviewed version and put a few extra side updates on the pad but I think we covered all the important updates, those are bonus
User13: User17 there is the gnome-utils binary package, and g-u-common
User17: pitti, -common is deprecated, libgdict-common conflicts with it
User13: User17 don't we need a transitional gnome-utils package for upgrades?
User17: pitti, do we care about the dummy gnome-utils for updates?
User17: ok
User17: I will fix gnome-utils to drop the other binaries and keep the dummy for this cycle then
User17: we can drop it after the lts
User13: User17 I'm not sure; but if lucid doesn't have all the split out binary packages, we do
User17: pitti, it doesn't
User13: User17 ah, it doesn't, so we need it, yes
User17: so yeah, let's do that
User17: I will drop the remaining binaries and keep the transitional one, then we can drop it when q opens
User19: good morning everyone
User17: hey chrisccoulson, how are you?
User19: seb128, yeah, not too bad thanks. how are you?
User11: good morning chrisccoulson
User17: I'm good thanks
User13: hey chrisccoulson
User19: hi pitti, didrocks
User11: User13 can you have a look at bugs #921506 and bug #960498 please?
User11: they are already approved by the doc team
User13: User11 done
User11: thanks pitti
User13: User17 hm, do you happen to know about bug 106995 ?
User13: User17 vte3 has a patch which adds a new property for this
User13: but the patch doesn't do anything by itself
User17: pitti, no, first time I read about it sorry
User13: something like gnome-terminal actually needs to call the new function (set alternate scroll)
User13: and the bug still seems to be present
User13: I'm inclined to just drop the patch
User13: User17 ok
User17: pitti, dropping the patch works for me
User13: it's the only remaining delta with Debian exp, I merged the rest
User20: User13 I am out of ideas for bug 958586. there is a "|| true" there now: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git;a=blob;f=libreoffice-common.postinst.in;h=e3e776da172964a26e7379da2f7895f860657787;hb=f621e552267e31081641ade7976165a89a1d9ead, but it still fails.
User17: drop it! ;-)
User20: User13 I not getting what in the world of dpkg actually triggers the $WHATEVER that fails there ...
User17: pitti, stupid retracer env question, what do I need to do to be able to run the scripts again?
User13: User17 PYTHONPATH=apport  I guess
User17: pitti, that's not enough, I get launchpadlib.errors still missing
User13: User17 dchroot into oneiric
User17: pitti, that did it, thanks
User13: User20 hm, no offhand idea right now; need to look into this further, but need to run to doctor appointment in 5 mins
User13: so, see you later!
User17: didrocks, pitti, User19 retracers bugs with the most dups since the 03/10: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/893397/
User17: just a piece of info
User11: thanks seb128
User17: the first column is the number of dups
User19: thanks!
User17: pitti, you won bug #948663
User17: pitti, (trying to get the most frequent segfault assigned)
User17: bryceh, User5 bug #943880 still get daily duplicates
User17: I set back it back from incomplete to new
User20: User13 k, thanks.
User21: Is gnome-utils-common supposed to be removed by updates?
User17: mpt, yes
User21: thanks :-)
User17: mpt, yw
User17: mpt, each gnome-utils component has its own source now so the bundle "gnome-utils" is deprecated
User17: you will get gnome-dictionary, etc instead
User21: excellent
User21: Each split like that avoids a strange "These things will be removed as well" dialog when you try to uninstall part of the bundle in Ubuntu Software Center :-)
User17: hehe
User13: User17 bug stats> merci
User17: pitti, de rien ;-)
User13: will look at the udisks ones
User13: vte3 upstream FTBFS with separate build tree, argh; /me fixes
User13: nice, seems we are in sync with quite a lot of gnome packages again
User17: indeed
User17: we can probably increase the syncs after precise
User17: some are good to sync but debian multiarched them
User17: or it's a bit late to multiarch libs now in precise
User13: is it?
User17: well, I leaned toward being conservative
User13: I thought at this point it's "catch as much as we can", as long as it's not something more complicated lice multi-arched plugin paths
User17: but maybe that's not needed ;-)
User17: like vala-0.16 could be synced I think
User13: we get a lot of "plz multiarch this" from canonical as well
User17: or gtksourceview3 got multiarched in debian
User17: pitti, ok, I will try to have a look to the few of those I skipped then ;-)
User13: User11 want me to grab the gnome-themes-standard update from you? I'd do it in debian and sync
User11: User13 sure, please go ahead ;)
User17: pitti, re themes, Debian doesn't put the a11y themes in a different binary IIRC
User13: ah, ok
User13: will update in Debian and merge then
User17: maybe they would be wanting to do it
User17: though I guess in that case they would have the standard theme depends on a11y which would still be a diff
User13: asking on #debian-gnome
User13: it would make our delta much smaller
User13: gnome-accessibility-themes | 2.30.2-1 | sid     | all
User13: and also would fix this
User13: User17 but I see nothing wrong with gnome-themes-standard recommending or depending on gnome-accessibility-themes
User17: pitti, right, sorry, it's the other way around for us, we just pull in -a11y
User17: so that would work
User22: I was wondering if ubuntu precise already has the needed stuff to run gnome-shell with software opengl?
User22: to run on qemu for example
User13: User22 it should
User13: User22 unity-3d runs in kvm
User13: User22 that's the LLVM pipe renderer in mesa
User22: nice
User23: with latest updates, comments in desktop files are displayed in the label of desktop icons. Is it expected or a known bug ?
User23: for example on a live session the install icon is labeled "Install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Install this system permanently on your hard drive"
User17: jibel, known bug
User23: seb128, bug number ?
User17: jibel, dunno, I saw it being discussed on #nautilus yesterday
User23: seb128, I'll search lp
User17: where upstream was part of the discussion
User23: thanks
User17: jibel, yw
User24: User17 User11 just to confirm how happy i am that i have ctrl+alt back: the keyboard I bought one week ago doesnt have a windows key at all ... fun
User17: asac, ;-)
User11: heh ;)
User24: http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/keyboards/Industrial/4100/index.htm
User24: and no, i didnt even think about checking whether it had such a key
User24: Features: "Optional âNon-Windowsâ Key Layout" ... seems i got one of those :)
User24: while i am here ... any bustage in the archive atm? /me types dist-upgrade
User25: I feel like we ended up taking more of GNOME 3.4 this cycle than I thought we would
User12: good morning mterry
User12: mterry, your merge proposal, even though it is marked as a work in progress do you still want a review?
 * kenvandine loved the  comment on it..  "This yak is big" :-D
User17: lol
User25: kenvandine, sure, I think this is the solution I'll end up using.  The remaining issue is that while you will correctly not get prompted for root password, you will also not get notified about failure to restore files that need root permission (so you'll get a false positive restore, which is bad).  Working on that bit, but if you could review the branch as is, would be helpful, yeah  :)
User17: hey kenvandine, mterry
User12: mterry, will do
User25: kenvandine, if you loved my verbose comments in unity-greeter, you'll love this branch
User12: i noticed already :)
User25: seb128, hello!
User12: you wrote a book in there :)
User25: kenvandine, all for "needs_root = false"  :)
User12: hehe
User3: User25 MOAR!!!
User14: seb128, hi, do you like to see a gnome-session update?
User3: User25 see? :)
User17: ricotz, hi, why?
User3: User14 great timing, btw :)
User17: ricotz, there was no interesting change this cycle iirc
User25: desrt, was that your yak impression?  :)
User3: User25 in response to <mterry> I feel like we ended up taking more of GNOME 3.4 this cycle than I thought we would
User14: seb128, i see, so no risky changes in you opinion then?
User3: just as ricotz asks for a gnome-session bump :)
User14: seb128, while it is part of 3.4 ;)
User14: desrt, you were about to ask this too?
User14: ;)
User25: ah yes.  :)  I wanted to stay on 3.2.  Hell, I wouldn't have minded backsliding to 3.2!  I like known bugs
User25: I mean backsliding to 3.0
User3: User25 there is a very long tradition of me (and others) abusing seb to take newer versions than he wanted to at the start of the cycle
User25: desrt, the man is too trusting
User3: User25 there's no trust being violated.  he knows it will happen.  :)
User17: ricotz, I see no benefit either
User3: User25 (you're witnessing the pushback phase)
 * mterry brings out popcorn
User17: lol
User3: User17 come on... you were the one telling me yesterday about numbers
User3: 3.4 > 3.2
User3: "GREATER than"
User3: User25 (irrefutable quasi-logic phase)
User17: desrt, well, that works for decent softwares
User17: GNOME doesn't count stability, they count bugs though
User3: User25 (friendly barbs phase)
User17: so > means buggier ;-)
User3: User17 don't you trust ricotz?
 * mterry wants GNOME to hurry up and become an actual OS so it will have LTS cycles
User3: i mean... has he ever done anything to hurt you?
User17: desrt, lol
User17: desrt, fix your HUD bugs instead of trolling :p
User3: looks like some nice bugfixes/features in here
User3: like a new gnome.fallback kernel commandline parameter
User14: seb128, does this mean you would take a look at a debdiff?
User17: ricotz, file a ffe with a rational and subscribe release-team
User26: User3 isn't gnomes.fallback kernel likely to be the hurd do we really want to go there? :D
User17: ricotz, I don't see a point for the update, last time I looked at it there was only commits for systemd support and that introduced regressions
User17: it seems like work and regression potential for 0 use
User3: User26 no... i think it's so you can boot your system with gnome.fallback=1 on the commandline and get 2D
User3: useful of 3D will crash your machine
User3: *if
User3: User17 you're actually right on this one, though
User14: seb128, ok, i will just push it gnome3 ppa then
User3: there are some very very minor additions here other than the systemd stuff
User17: ricotz, why? what's the point?
User3: and obviously the systemd stuff is no benefit to us, but some risk
User14: desrt, hmm
User17: ricotz, does anyone cares about systemd support in the GNOME3 ppa? it's not like that was the only bit missing for systemd support in Ubuntu
User17: I doubt mean lts users will want to switch their system to systemd
User17: they would to enable systemd support in a bunch of GNOME tarballs where we didn't turn it on as well
User3: User17 i suspect this question will become far more interesting next cycle
User17: desrt, right, I'm happy to update gnome-session next cycle ;-)
User17: I just don't see what we have to win to do it now
 * desrt expects an early PPA with systemd in it
User3: (one way or the other)
User3: User17 btw: can you drop 061_multiarch_module_fallback.patch in gtk?
User14: seb128, alright, you made your point clear
User17: desrt, you got pinged by olli for meeting in case you don't read other channels
User17: desrt, let me check, I guess so
User17: ricotz, ;-)
User14: seb128, this is more for good measure to have it updated and getting tested to gnome3 ppa seems reasonable
User17: ricotz, ok, your call
User9: I'm sure there's a dozen people that want systemd in Ubuntu
User17: I doubt users are really interested in it
User9: good morning
User17: hey jbicha_, how are you?
User17: desrt, read me
User17: desrt, ok, good, you replied ;-)
User14: seb128, pushed. let the user complains come ;)
User17: ;-)
User14: seb128, g-k seems to run fairly well too, besides xclaesse' issue
User17: ricotz, yeah, we decided that one was too risky weeks ago
User14: i know
User14: seb128, wayland can come now :P
User17: lol
User17: desrt, bug #960757, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/97677128/Stacktrace.txt ... does it seems like a gio issue or a program issue to you?
User3: this stacktrace is giving me deja vu
User3: i think i had that turning up in valgrind at some point
User17: desrt, you have a lot of deja vu recently ;-)
User3: but i looked at the code and decided that it couldn't possibly be a problem
User3: let me look again
User17: desrt, thanks
User3: so this is not the same bug
User3: the one i saw was a few lines down
User3: but it was another case of a crash inside GString as called by the default log handler
User3: User17 my verdict here is memory corruption
User3: User17 g_slice_alloc() is returning some bullshit
User17: desrt, ok, thanks for looking at it, I transmitted the comment to ev on #ubuntu-devel
User17: desrt, so, how is your gsd overrides stuff working
User17: desrt, should "gsettings set': gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings  overrides "{ 'Gtk/ShellShowsAppMenu': < 1 >}"" do something?
User3: yes
User3: it should hide the menus, even if unity is not running
User3: then <0> should show them, even if unity _is_ running
User17: desrt, 0 doesn't show them under unity
User3: oh
User17: but maybe it's the appmenu-gtk stuff kicking in?
User3: sorry -- the gtk dbusmenu patch uses the ShellShowsMenubar property, rather
User3: AppMenu is only for GMenuModel apps
User17: desrt, same difference
User17: gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings  overrides "{ 'Gtk/ShellShowsMenuBar': < 0 >}"
User17: or < 1 >
User17: -> no difference
User3: so that's worrying.
User3: no it's not :p
User3: Menubar
User3: not MenuBar
User17: desrt, doh, that works
User17: thanks ;-)
User3: no worries
User3: glad you're enjoying the patch =)
User17: ;-)
User3: the logic is that the property represents if the _shell_ shows the menubar
User3: ie: if the shell shows it, there is no need for the app to do so
User3: so you force the menu shown in the app by telling "the shell is not showing it"
User3: (0)
User11: User19 around?
User19: didrocks, yeah
User19: although, starting to feel like i want to hang myself ;)
User11: User19 it's just been confirmed to be in 5.6 as well, but can you try to reproduce: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/961338
User19: didrocks, yeah, i get that here
User11: User19 ok, thanks for confirming
User13: good night everyone!
User27: night pitti
User17: 'night pitti
 * didrocks waves good night
User27: g'night didrocks
User11: bye bcurtiswx ;)
User9: User17 is the Epiphany quicklist proposal too late for Precise?
User17: jbicha_, we said we wouldn't take those for universe since they can't be translated
User17: jbicha_, we don't have rosetta, langpacks for universe
User17: grrr, I can't believe it's 2012 and I can't close my docked laptop lid without having my laptop to hang
User9: User17 that's what I thought
User9: User17 should we disable suspend by default too? ;)
User17: it's docked with an external screen, it was not going to suspend
User17: it was "just" a xrandr call
User17: we should maybe disable resolution changes ;-)
User28: speaking of epiphany, i often am unable to select text, or maybe it ignores my mouse altogether
User28: i have no idea how to report this bug. "epiphany does not work" :)
User17: "use firefox" ;-)
User28: i am :)
User17: desrt, can you maybe help to debug bug #961442 by asking some questions?
User28: but epiphany is pretty damn wonderful in this new incarnation of gnome
User17: topyli, well, I wouldn't use epiphany as my web browser in any case seeing how often webkit-gtk gets security updates
User28: yes it is a bit sad
User29: User17 that will be fixed soon hopefully :)
User17: micahg, that would be great ;-)
User30: User29 it will start just releasing new major versions every few weeks too, and we'll backport them to all versions of ubuntu? :)
User28: heh
User28: sounds like a plan!
User30: hrmm, so epiphany does indeed not work
User30: why is that
User29: User30 that doesn't work easily when something has a lot of reverse dependencies :)
User28: no idea. i suspect it's webkit
User30: User28 why do you suspect that?
User9: it works here, but I'm running 3.3.92 which I just uploaded
User9: not sure if 3.3.91 stopped working or not
User30: User9 whatever version i have installed isn't opening a window
User28: User30 just because it's the content, not the chrome that's broken. i'm not going to try and claim i know anything, it's just a feeling :)
User30: User28 well, rhythmbox is working fine
User28: it is
User30: and it's using the same webkit as epiphany
User28: i didn't know rhythmbox had something to do with webkit
User30: some of the extensions use it
User28: well, the stores and stuff
User30: the ubuntu one store looks fine to me
User7: User3 hey
User7: User3 have an opinion on https://code.launchpad.net/~tkluck/ubuntu/precise/gnome-shell/lp883443/+merge/98471 ?
User9: ooh, wow, Google services look bad, it's got the Chromium-style scrollbar & the Ubuntu overlay scrollbar
User7: seems to me like fine, but I use gnome-shell about once a month, and don't know much about the design decisions for notifications there. I'm hoping you know more about that than I do
User30: User9 in epiphany?
User28: looks like epiphany works fine when you first open a page, and maybe the next one. along the way it loses touch with your pointer somehow. it's very weird
User28: i'm on an old macbook, dunno how the hardware affects this
User25: oh haha
User25: I thought B2 was tomorrow, but it's just the freeze.   Things make a lot more sense now
User17: mterry, crawl back from under your rock :p
User25: seb128, I was fixing unity-greeter crashes!  some thanks...  :)
User17: mterry, oh, I assigned you one today!
User25: that's the one
User17: mterry, you are going to blame it on me right?
User17: rrrrrright
User17: ;-)
User25: yeah, my branch just says "if (username == seb128) return;"
User25: "no more bugs from him!"
User17: we need to start translating variable to make those hacks harder for you americans :p
User10: Is anyone willing to help me test a speech-related application? It's at https://launchpad.net/speechcontrol.
User12: seb128, valac is in NEW, can you help move it along?
User12: breaking my builds now
User31: is anybody looking at the vte termcap handling regression?
User17: kenvandine, done
User12: seb128, thx
User17: yw
User18: hi seb128 :)
User9: User31 did you restart your terminal?
User18: start of another day
User31: User9 i opened new ones
User17: thumper, hey
User31: User9 do i need to kill them all off?
User9: User31 that worked for me
User31: User9 that makes sense. it looks like vte switched from shipping the termcap info in a file to shipping it embedded in the binary
User31: at least, that's my best interpretation of the diff
User31: much better. thanks for confirming my suspicions :)
User18: hi people
User18: I was wanting to upgrade my oneiric server
User18: but it has got itself into a bit of a state
User18: need to apt-get -f install
User18: but that says it is failing due to...
User18: unable to securely remove '/usrsrc/linux-headers...': Read-only file system
User18: eh?
User18: not sure where to go from here
User32: remount filesystem r/w?
User18: how can I easily tell how it is mounted?
User18: I haven't done anything different from when this last worked
User18: why would something suddenly become read only?
User18: for me /usr is part of /
User18: how can I tell how it is mounted? read-only or otherwise?
User32: maybe check dmesg/syslog for an error why it got mounted ro
User32: also, you better ask #ubuntu for support...
User32: or #ubuntu+1
User18: ok
User33: Its a known bug that titlebar/icons are broken on Gnome3 ? :)
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