User1: hey. what is different between Ubuntu and Xubuntu?
User2: User1 different desktop environment and default applications
User1: in your opinion better or worse?
User2: it depends on the user
User1: How do you mean?
User2: everyone has their own preferences, one is not "better" than the other
User3: hello all
User4: hi
User5: !hi
User6: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!
User4: i'm new in the world of free software
User3: thank you
User4: not speak English
User7: Hello
User8: need helpz, xubuntu problem
User5: !ask
User6: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
User8: i have a 38 gb hard drive, installed xubuntu, it says 4.1 gb free space is left
User8: in "file system" folder
User5: Type  df -h  in a terminal window.
User5: /dev/sda1           36G   16G   18G  48% /    Is example output from mine.
User8: mine says 36g 30g 4.2g 88%
User5: Did you download anything big or somesuch?
User8: no
User8: i updated and stuff, downloaded a few songs, nothing big
User5: du -xk | sort -n | tail -20    That'll show you the 20 biggest dirs on the filesystem.
User9: grr, had an awesome look going on my old xubuntu install, now can't remember what themes I used, though I have a screenshot. really should have backed things up
User5: Heh, that's typically a good idea, though now you have to look for ones that work with GTK2 and GTK3.
User9: http://i.imgur.com/x7OHt.png
User5: Not much I can say other than "Looks great", and "Did you check xfce-look and gnome-look?"
User9: it might be atolm with a different window decoration...yeah i'm looking around now
User5: Fri, 04 May 2012 00:57:49 -0400
User5: Woops, wrong button. >_>
User10: why is there "Greybird" and "greybird" in my theme list?
User5: One is a symlink to be compatible with upgrades.
User5: ls -l /usr/share/themes |grep -i greybird
User11: anyone know how to properly get compiz to autostart with the session? i put it both in xfce4-session.xml and application startup, but it still won't start with it enabled half the time
User12: guys, I am having a weird problem. A windows width is stuck at the width of the screen. I can resize the window vertically.. but horizontally it just wont move.. anyone had this before?
User13: hello
User13: :)
User14: hi
User13: can anyone help me ? i want to use ubuntu customization kit to remaster a xubuntu12.04 .iso but i have the same error >>>>Failed to copy resolv.conf, error=1
User13: does anyone know how can i fix that error?
User13: please help me
User13: :-D
User13: any ideas?
User13: this is the build.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/966443/
User13: can you help me?
User13: can you help me?
User14: sorry, no idea
User13: i tried uck 2.4.6 but the same error
User13: 2.4.6 svn
User13: *
User15: does anyone know how to fix right click slowness issues?
User15: nm, figured it out
 * taxman smashes malv's head with a super fast pendrive
User16: hey guys, i have a trouble running compiz+emerald on xubuntu 12.04. Windows decoration doesn't work, can i fix that?
User17: User16 i think emerald is quite a dead project
User17: User16 apart from that, you can try to set /usr/bin/emerald (or whatever the command was) in compizconfig-settingsmanager (or whatever it's called) in the window-decoration setting
User17: User16 or just try alt+f2 "emerald --replace"
User16: i tried that, no success, i will try the first one, the interesting think is that working on 11.10
User17: as i said, it's a dead project, so there are a gazillion possible reasons for it to stop working
User17: compiz otoh is actively developed for ubuntu
User17: you can also try to use metacity instead
User17: (our default theme has both, emerald and metacity support)
User18: so I can use metacity to get compiz working with xfce?
User16: thanks ochosi, i will try now
User17: User18 yes (or compiz-gnome, as the package is called, iirc)
User17: User16 good luck
User18: hmm. I'll look into it. Compiled emerald and it's running fine. Thanks for the tip
User17: User18 in my experience metacity is more stable than emerald, that's why i wouldn't recommend emerald to anyone
User18: I'm a newcommer to xfce from mint 11 and was confused by using metacity with compiz, but it's a better solution. I know emerald is unsupported.
User18: xubuntu 12.04 is such a sweet release. I have run it since it came out and are very impressed..
User18: and I can't stop saying so :)
User12: guys, I am having a weird problem. A windows width is stuck at the width of the screen. I can resize the window vertically.. but horizontally it just wont move.. anyone had this before?
User19: hi
User19: I just downloaded Calibri font but it doesn't have any install button
User19: where can I add that?
User20: copy it into your .fonts directory
User19: where is it?
User19: how can I reach such folders?
User20: it's in your homedirectory, it's a hidden directory
User21: either in /usr/share/fonts or ~/.fonts...to see the hidden dirs in thunar, CTRL H
User21: and probably you'll have to make the ~/.fonts, I don't think its there by default
User21: HINT:  It's NOT ~/.fontconfig :)
User22: Hallo!
User19: User21 couldn't find it
User21: User19 couldn't find which one?
User22: It's possible to install XFCE 4.10 on Xubuntu 12.04?
User19: User21 the folder
User21: <which> folder?  The one in /usr/fonts or the home directory?
User19: I found Home
User14: Voverius, soon the packages are still building, 9 left to go
User19: but not /usr and stuff
User21: User14 Still in the holding pattern on the install?  :)
User14: Voverius, https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa once all thepackages are finished building
User14: drc, yip and keeping an eye on those package builds
User19: User21 can't I just search that?
User21: User19 Read my earlier post...You'll have to make the .folder in the home directory
User21: opps .fonts folder
User14: ooh, 6 packages to go!
User21: so...tomorrow ? -)
User18: metals, make a folder called    .fonts  in your home directory, if you don't have it alreaduy .. then run this command in the terminal          sudo fc-cache -fv
User21: User19 Have you made the new folder?
User14: noooo, xfwm failed to build
User19: User21 yeah, and I pasted the fonts there
User19: User21 I can see that in the word processor
User21: so...the font works for you?
User18: metals, in terminal to refresh the fonts                 sudo fc-cache -fv
User19: User21 thanks, yeh
User19: User18 thanks
User19: User18 I did that in the Terminal
User21: The Mission Accomplished...it's Miller Time (tm)
User18: then the font should show up.
User21: User18 it did :)
User18: thats a good thing :)
User19: :)
User19: one other thing
User19: I want Persian as well
User19: I mean Layout
User18: a rug?
User19: no, cat :)
User18: a rug?:)
User19: Keyboard layout
User18: lol
User19: :D
User21: too much hair, gets in the keyboard
User19: :D
User19: cool people here
User19: :D
User18: indeed
User19: I can't find it in the Control Panel
User18: I know little about keyboard layouts, but it should be in settings
User21: I'm ignorant as well
User18: yeah, it's in the settings under keyboard. I use english for the system but have a norwegian keyboard layout, but I set it during install and haven't really thought about it.
User19: found it
User19: thanks
User19: first Kubuntu
User19: then Ubuntu
User19: and today Xubuntu
User19: :D
User19: Xubuntu seems good
User19: better than Ubuntu
User21: Can't make up your mind?
User21: :)
User18: it is. I came from mint 11
User18: as long as it's a buntu :P
User19: Ubuntu wouldn't go on Stand By
User19: I was on Mint Lisa as well
User19: Lisa is classy but... weak
User19: I am very new to Linux
User21: User19 12.04 'buntus all have hibernation disabled by default, if that's what you meant
User19: I was Microsoft's slave for a ong ime
User18: yeah. xfce is my saviour as a gnome 2 refugee :)
User19: no
User19: Stand By
User19: Suspend?
User21: ah, that should work
User19: Suspend ya may say
User19: it would turn off for a second and would come back
User18: 3 choises I think. suspend, hibernate and turning of the screen.
User23: hello all, i have 2 language installed but i can' find how to enable language input switcher, ?
User23: i'm using xubuntu 12.04
User19: slim_ have ya restarted your machine afterwards?
User23: User19 not yet i try now
User19: OK
User19: Standing By
User18: have I said I love xubuntu 12.04 lately?
User18: awesome release
User21: it'll do....
User24: shit
User24: it doesn't suspend on Xubumtu as well
User24: :(
User21: it's your machine/setup...works on mine
User19: I have a deasktop
User19: worked well on Kubuntu
User19: nor on Ubuntu nor this
User12: guys, I am having a weird problem. A windows width is stuck at the width of the screen. I can resize the window vertically.. but horizontally it just wont move.. anyone had this before?
User18: Kingsy, no idea. do you run compiz btw?
User12: User18 nope
User18: it's weird alright. I have noe idea how to fix it.
User18: Kingsy, ever watched the tv serie Kings?
User12: nope
User18: it's a good show. well worth a watch.
User25: have they fixed gstreamer in 12.04 yet?
User26: I had a lucid to precise upgrade go terribly wrong yesterday.  After a reinstall, I'm almost back up.  How the blazes to I get a custom app launcher (it's going to point at a shell script) into a panel?
User27: Hi!
User26: Wizard, Hey!
User27: User26 Rigth click on a panel, select "Launcher"
User26: Are you saying that's how to add the launcher I'm after?
User27: Yes.
User27: It is possible to choose existing (system provided) one, or create your own.
User27: And thanks for warning, I was considering updating lucid â precise today.
User26: Wizard, it might go fine for you.  I find that over the course of an Ubuntu instance, I end up having to grab stuff from other repos and I imagine one of those is what blew me out of the water.  I do have this nice fresh feeling now, like from a fabric softener commercial, since the incident.  :)
User27: LOL
User27: User26 I have ubuntu/powerpc here, Xubuntu doesn't even provide images for ppc.
User27: So I'm a bit affraid.
User26: Ahh...
User27: OK, lunch, brb.
User28: hi how can i upgrade trough command line from 10.04 to 12.04? thx
User21: User28 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
User21: actually https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades is more precise :)
User21: I can't find anything Xubuntu specific for LTS upgrading, but as the underlying system is Ubuntu, the general cavaets listed in the above link should help
User21: especially " It is generally recommended that users of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS wait until the first point release, due in July, before upgrading. ?
User28: i have great problem with visual upgrade (it chashes and does not start) so my solution is to use commmand line? which?
User29: User28 do-release-upgrade
User28: do-release-upgrade Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/do-release-upgrade", line 10, in <module>     from UpdateManager.Core.DistUpgradeFetcherCore import DistUpgradeFetcherCore   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/UpdateManager/Core/DistUpgradeFetcherCore.py", line 27, in <module>     import tarfile ValueError: bad marshal data
User28: at line 27 import tarfile
User28: any solutions
User28: any other solutions?
User30: User28 a fresh install is always a solution.. i would try from the command line
User18: is there a ppa for xfce?
User31: User18 there is - I'll find it for you, or I have built packages on Sourceforge
User31: here's Lionel Le Folgolc's PPA: https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa
User31: My builds are here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/babble777.u/files/xfce-4.10-daily/
User18: brilliant.   thanks
User31: User18 if you want, mine install everything in /usr/local so you can easily roll back to the official ubuntu packages by just uninstalling one package (mine)
User18: how about https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.10
User31: that will be official when the builds actually finish
User31: if you look, there aren't any published packages there yet
User18: yeah, saw that. I'll try one of yours. thanks
User31: (It may be that Lionel's source packages are different from whatever the Xubuntu dev team is doing, so changes will need to get rolled in before the dev team ppa actually publishes anything)
User31: in my build series, the amd64/i386 packages marked FINAL are the release code.
User31: (I probably need to go in and clean up the daily builds at some point)
User32: hi, everyone
User31: hi tehmole
User33: how do you add ntp servers in xubuntu 12.04?
User21: I don't see a gui for it, but I expect you could just edit /etc/ntp.conf
User21: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/NTP.html  it's an oldie but a goodie
User33: there was a gui for that in 11.10
User21: dunno, I just did a quick check, couldn't find it, so....
User33: thanks.
User21: there is a gui to <use> ntp, but you can't set the servers there.
User34: Hi! I wold like to ask for help, my touchpad doesn't work in Xubuntu 12.04, but it works is Ubuntu 12.04. I looked for everywhere to solve the problem, but not found.
User35: User34 doesn't work at all or doesn't behave as it should?
User34: doesn't work
User34: i try to enable and disable in setting, not help
User34: i try to pull out my usb mouse, then restart, but not workin too
User35: try running "synclient TouchpadOff=0" in terminal
User35: does it work?
User34: no :(
User34: in the mouse settings, I see PS/2 Synaptics TouchPad, i don't know it is helpful
User21: User34 You didn't set anything in Removable Drivers and Media>Input Devices >Mice did you ?
User21: but if sysi's command didn't work, I'm stumped
User34: No i didn't set anyhing
User21: User34 that PS/2 Synaptics Touchpad is enabled/checked isn't it?
User34: yes, it is enabled
User34: i tried to disable/enable maybe it will work, but nothing happend
User34: i don't undestand why works in ubuntu, and not in xubuntu
User21: but if sysi's command didn't work, I'm stumped (redux :)
User36: Hello
User34: but i thank you try to help :)
User35: User34 does "lsmod | grep synaptics" give any output?
User35: hrm, actually evdev is used now
User36: Could anyone please help me, I just installed xubuntu and cannot detect one of my hard drives
User34: I inserted and nothing happend
User37: I have a tech question.  Just insalled Xubuntu 12.04 on an office system (corporate lan w/ primarily windows domains).  I cannot get thunar or gigolo to connect to any windows shares.  I just get the user/domain/password dialog over and over.  Works fine from my Ubuntu 11.04 install.  Any suggestions?
User37: for clarification I am switching from an old Ubuntu to the latest Xubuntu.
User30: User37 what are the errors in gigolo?
User30: sounds like permissions to me
User37: I don't get an error.  Just the dialog over and over until I cancel.
User30: might need smbclient
User30: i would refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaClientGuide ..see if you can get some error output
User37: smbclient is installed (I'm guessing it was installed during OS install)
User30: User37 i would mount the share in the commandline and report errors
User37: After installing cifs-utils I can do a mount -t cifs just fine.  GUI method still doesn't work (gvfs?)
User38: on my pc since 12.04 starting Playonlinux gives crash report
User39: Hello
User39: I have a technical question
User39: I have a Dell Vostro 1500, Dual Core Intel 2.0 ghz, 2 Gigs of DDR2 ram and plenty of hard drive and Geforce 8400M GS mobile chipset.
User40: good
User39: However Ubuntu 12.04 running Xubuntu is very slow, the graphics are jerky
User39: For example, when I highlight things in a web browser there is a lag and this lag and jerkiness happens everywhere
User39: my Memory usage never really exceeds 40-60% even running tons of Chromium windows and having LibreOffice and a movie playing etc...
User39: But the graphics are jerky and slow
User39: I have the Proprietary nVidia X-Server drivers, the latest version..
User39: What should I do to improve the responsiveness of the desktop?
User39: Can I scale back some XFCE graphics, how can I bring it to a bare minimum level and tweak things to get it just right?
User39: Would getting more Ram help?  Like to 4 Gigs?
User39: I dont have any of these problems using Windows XP...
User39: Any suggestions, help???
User39: Expert opinions?
User40: Restringere, sadly video drivers for linux aint that goo
User40: d
User40: :(
User40: you could, a) try other drivers
User39: Can I install the latest nVidia Linux drivers?
User40: Restringere, yes
User39: How?
User40: you could b) try disabling composing
User40: Restringere, go to the nvidia page and search for the latest linux drivers, they have a how to
User39: Ok
User39: Would increasing RAM help?
User35: no
User39: Moving to 64 Bit Linux?
User35: very probably not
User39: ok
User39: Thats why the new GIMP 2.8 is all funky on me?
User39: Like all the lags, its just the Drivers for Video?
User40: yes
User40: well
User40: maybe no, i dont know
User40: but very probably, yes
User39: Ok, how to I roll back if things get screwed up?
User39: Just run the basic Canonical drivers again?
User39: from the "Extra Drivers" dialog?
User40: yes, or you can delete xorg.conf form /etc/X11
User40: that would revert things to generic drivers
User39: ok
User39: Going to try then returning back to the room in 10 mins
User39: wish me luck
User41: is there a transparent cursor theme for ubuntu (for touchscreens for example)
User39: Nothing happened
User42: once more with the right nick
User42: is there a transparent cursor theme for ubuntu (for touchscreens for example)
User39: ran the nvidia drivers with "sh ./ driverbinaryname"
User39: and nothing happened
User39: changed it to executable and everything
User39: ahhhhh
User40: Restringere, you need to run it from a tty with no X running
User39: rebooting
User40: autif, this should work http://gnome-look.org/?xcontentmode=36
User40: notice the should
User43: So im doing a distribution upgrade to 12.04 and during the 'installing the upgrades' part it's stalled for about 2 hours on "ttf-mscorefonts-installer: downloading http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/trebuc32.exe" (300kb file), what should I do?
User40: hit the skip button
User43: unfortunately theres no skip button
User40: o:
User43: if I push ctrl+c on the console it says "this will abort the operation and may leave the system in a broken state. Are you sure?". bit of a gamble hah
User40: thats weird, it should just cancel the current process, thats why the skip button
User40: you could... unplug your internet and the download should fail
User43: ooh good point!
User40: but then everything else should also fail
User40: if you are doing an upgrade from the internet
User40: !hi
User6: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!
User42: GridCube thanks!
User43: hmm so ctrl+c or turn off net.. hmm
User40: :) found a nice one autif
User40: nexinarus, dont know
User43: ah ill try net option.. here goes nothing
User42: User40 I did not, but it is a good resource - I just need to figure out how to disable the icons at startup - completely - these themes make the icons looks like something or another
User40: autif, you mean desktop icons?
User40: you can disable them from the desktop configuration, last tab is icons (first one is wallpapers), there you disable your icons, i like to keep the live media icons on, because if no live media in the computer they dont show, and if i plug a pendrive it shows an icon there :D
User40: Phips-, you can do wubi installs aswell
User40: but keep in mind that NO ONE did wubi tests on xubuntu that we know off, it should work just like ubuntu does, but we don't know
User40: !wubi | Phips-
User6: Phips-: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Oneiric/11.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/wubi.exe
User44: GridCube, we did whole 4 wubi tests for 12.04 ;)
User40: 4! AMAZING!
User40: :D
User44: yeah...
User5: I'd not recommend that in general, ever. :P
User44: iirc 2 for alpha2 and 2 for final
User45: ah crap disabling net & hitting ctrl+c failed lol, both did nothing dangit
User40: nexinarus1, :(
User45: i installed xubuntu with wubi, works sweet
User40: i don't know then, id recommend you to do a clean install
User45: cheers GridCube
User40: :) good luck nexinarus1
User46: Hey folks, thinking of making the switch to xfce as it seems my old ubuntu 11.04 desktop isn't getting nice updates like gimp 1.8
User46: So how do you install a theme in this thing?
User46: Just copy to ~/.themes?
User40: yes
User47: yes
User46: #whydidIevenask :)
User47: and then you select the appropriate theme in the Xfce parameters
User47: However, I'm not sure that Gimp 2.8 will be in Ubunt 12.04 repos
 * GridCube knows that unity themes need a special programs and tinkering with the system because "theming" is not supported
User40: !info gimp
User6: gimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.12-1ubuntu1 (precise), package size 4611 kB, installed size 12814 kB
User40: nope
User46: User47 well, it's in the unofficial (webupd8) repos but only for 12.x... it's more of a matter that the times are changing and it's a sign that I should look in to my next UI
User46: I can't handle unity :-P
User47: martian, so Xfce is a good choice ^^
User40: Phips-, I have literally no idea of how wubi works
User46: User47 I've always liked it; just never had a reason to bother switching
User40: but if i have to guess, ill say that you cant run linux amd64 if you are not running windows amd64
User40: but really don't know
User40: ill recommend you to do a clean install
User40: it can install alongside windows fairly easy
User40: yes Phips-
User40: or a pendrive
User40: i havent burn cds in a long time :P
User48: what's the default mail application in xubuntu?
User47: Thunderbird
User48: thanks
User42: User40 yes, I meant desktop icons. It seems like I need to run xsetroot -cursor someting something from somewhere in the X startup - I just can;t get where - if I sleep 30 seconds and then start - everything is just fine
User40: O_O
User40: what?
User40: are you not using xfce?
User42: I am
User42: but I think this is at a lower level - at X's level
User42: so, I do not need themese
User42: or I need transparent theme - which does not seem to exist
User42: for a touchscreen
User42: this is the next best thing
User42: ls
User42: sorry
User25: why are my youtube videos blue tinted? like people are blue?
User40: starn, because of hardware acceletarion
User35: right click -> settings -> uncheck hardware acceleration
User40: disable it
User35: because flash sucks
User40: because video drivers for linux sucks too
User25: sure it's not ffmepg stuff? and Sysi flash does suck haha
User40: starn, no, its just flash
User40: and video drivers
User25: i remember having this issue april 1 and fixed it.. not fully sure how.. i think i had to do something with gstreamer or ffmepg
 * GridCube shrugs
User25: be right back switching OS's..
User49: Anyone know the PPA for the mainline kernel on 12.04 to update to 3.3.4 via apt-get?
User40: !kernel | t0rx__
User6: User49 The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)
User21: This Smurfiness is funny...on the same hardware with the same nvidia driver, I get it with slackware/salix and fedora but not with X/Ubuntu, debian or Linux Mint.
User40: ja, i got it in this machine
User49: User6 my video card has drivers that are in the 3.3.4 kernel but not enabled by default.  Thus I need to recompile with them enabled.  So I'm guessing I need to get the ubuntu 3.3.4 NOT the kernel.org version?
User6: User49 I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
User25: hmm.. can't remember what i did to fix blue youtube videos.. i use chrome.. and i am pretty sure it had to do with unofficial flash stuff... for my computer will not let me select or deselect hardware acc.
User25: like under settings for flash the menu buttons don't work i can't click them i can tab through them but it wont let me use space or enter to select them it lets me use enter to close though.
User25: fixed it!! it was mplayer / libvdpau1
User35: vdpau is the thingy doing hw-acceleration
User25: so to fix blue smurf people on youtube just remove mplayer and libvdpau1
User44: or use the html5 version?
User25: it was acting up in html5 even.
User35: really funky drivers
User25: indeed. i have nvidia..  i've been in html5 trail for awhile..
User25: i've noticed some videos force me to use flash though. what up with that
User35: some videos are just not available in html5(webm/h264/something)
User25: ah well i fixed my issue. i don't see why mplayer would effect chrome and flash videos.
User25: holy crap.. i even fixed my musictube problem.. o.O huh welp i'm done for the day.
User50: This is the guy with the Vostro 1500 trouble
User50: I found an interesting solution
User25: now than i tried to use compiz w/e for 3d desktop.. and now i'm unable to log into my normal desktop. any suggestions?
User50: To speed things up - as a result of very buggy Nvidia drivers - I dropped the color bit depth to 56K, turned off advanced GPU features and
User50: Wow, it works better, less jittery
User50: I'll probably have to wait until 12.10 to see massive improvements
User50: Anyone have anymore Nvidia related performance tweaks?
User51: hi, is there a way to change/switch my keyboard layout in us,greek and vise versa?
User40: yes
User40: xubuntu433, theres a keyboard switch button for the panel, if its not there already you might have to install xfce goodies
User52: I'm having a problem getting Xubuntu 12.04 to boot from CD or USB.  Is there a way to start the install from the OS already on it?
User40: i dont understand
User52: I've made a CD-ROM and it won't boot into the install.  Same for USB.
User52: So, just trying to find a way around it.
User51: found it, thank you very much!
User44: LiquidBlues, it's possible, but you can't install to the same partition you are running from
User52: Yeah, that makes sense.
User40: LiquidBlues, you can try the alternate cd
User52: User40 What does that do for me?
User40: it doesnt load a graphical interface and its faster
User52: Oh.
User52: Sounds promising.
User52: So, how do I select the options that come with the GUI install?
User40: no, you need the alternate ISO
User52: Right.  So, I download and burn that.
User52: But the regular iso gives me install options on the gui.
User52: And you're saying I don't have those on the alternate.
User40: LiquidBlues, you have all the same options, just not graphically, textually
User52: Ah, okay.  Grand idea.
User52: I'll give it a whirl.
 * GridCube thinks he really has to make his alternate tutorial
User52: Yeah!  What the hell?
User52: Slacker.
User52: ;)
User40: :P
User53: I jus installed the latest xubuntu and I can't login normally
User53: the splash displays, but there's a gray square where the login prompt should be
User53: I'm connected with irssi running in a root shell right now
User53: annybody know how to fix the login manager?
User2: User53 fresh install, or an upgrade?
User53: fresh install
User2: hmm, haven't seen that one before
User53: I tried versions before the current one, but after karmic, and the supported ones refuse to install
User53: I have a dual boot with karmic atm (old install), bu they don't share a /home
User53: running dpkg didn't help
User2: I'm not finding much, but as a datapoint it's using lightdm as the login manager, so that may help find some clues
User2: User53 maybe take a look at /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
User53: the system is borderline unresponsive when started normally
User53: it responds to the mouse jerkily with up to 5 seconds of delay, and won't shut down, or bring a terminal up
User53: User2 is nano installed by default?
User2: User53 yep, or vi
User2: (er, I think vi..)
User44: i think nano is ;)
User44: at least..
User44: and it gives me less shivers
User53: hmm, since I'm in a root shell, I don't think I can switch terminal windows
User53: alt + f<number> just gives a black screen
 * nanotube >_>
User53: I have to dc to look at the file, anything in particular I should look for?
User2: warnings, errors
User2: start at the bottom
User53: okay, brb
User54: I see some stuff about shutting down and sigterm, after a gap in the timestamps, but I think that's from me having to force a hrad shutdown
User54: *hard
User54: other than that, nothing seems out of place
User33: any plans for xfce 4.10 ppa?
User33: or an update?
User55: hi
User56: hi
User55: which notify system is used by xubuntu?
User55: is compatible with 'notify-send' command?
User56: I need some help with my xubuntu 12.04
User5: User55 xcfe4-notifyd
User56: what do u mean
User55: i user notify-send to show some messages
User56: were do i have to ask some help regarding my update of 12.0
User55: and i would like to know if xubuntu system is compatible with that command
User44: xubuntu708, here.
User5: Yep.
User5: User55 I use it with irssi.
User55: ok, thanks Unit193
User52: I have an exciting new problem!
User52: I'm using the alternate cd
User52: It gets me to the "Install Xubuntu" prompt.
User52: I select it and then the screen goes black and, after a bit, the CD stops spinning.
User57: im having trouble installing themes from xfce-look.org
User5: What are you doing with them?
User57: tryign to download them and install them
User57: im running precise
User54: Okay, running the irc client on a different computer now, so I'm free to mess with the broken install
User57: xubuntu
User5: User57 So you just don't know how? Alright, make a dir in your home folder named .themes
User57: ok
User5: !themes
User6: To change your theme in Xubuntu, go to Settings Manager Â» Appearance (GTK+ theme) or Settings Manager Â» Window Manager (xfwm4 theme) to change the theme - find more themes at http://xfce-look.org/ or http://gnome-look.org/ (for GTK+ themes)
User57: i did that
User57: but there arent any i really like in stock format
User57: i go to that site and download them, extract them... and i dotn see the new ones in settings
User57: im also running compiz
User57: i added the folder .themes to my home folder
User57: but i dont see it
User54: I've not figured out my login troubles yet
User5: It's hidden, did you open Appearance in the settings manager? I don't know where themes would mesh with compiz.
User54: it'll boot to a splash, but where the login prompt should be is a gray square, and the system goes near-unresponsive
User57: just wanted to let you know what i had going on, thanks... let me get into settigns manager, 1 sec
User54: lightdm's log file didn't have anything that stood out
User57: ok, im in Appearance
User57: i dont see any of the themes that i downloaded
User57: like orta, and so on
User57: ok, i see the .Themes folder now
User57: should i extract the tar.gz files into that folder?
User58: Has to be '.themes'
User54: is there a different login manager I can install/set as the default?
User57: actually its a zip file
User57: its .themes sorry
User58: User54 Yep, you can use whatever you want, GDM, slim, lightdm, LXDM, etc.
User54: what did jaunty use?
User54: I prefer having to type out the username as well as the pass
User58: Slim and LXDM need that, and I *think* you can get that in LightDM.
User54: wikipedia says lightdm is used for 11.10 onward, not for sure what was used before
User58: GDM was.
User57: ok, so if i download the orta zip file... what should i do next?
User57: from xfce-look.org
User54: if I just do apt-get install GDM from a root shell, will it install and load instead of lightdm?
User58: For me it works to extract it to .themes.
User58: User54 It'll ask what you want to use as default.
User54: rebooting it, one sec
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