User1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/338034
User2: Launchpad bug 338034 in launchpad "Problem with PPA authentication" [Undecided,New]
User3: Why do bugs with linked branches in listings have an icon with title="Branch exists"? That's pretty useless - I want it to say something like "<Y> lp:~path/to/branch".
User3: That way I can see at a glance some actual useful information and go to the relevant branches.
User4: wgrant, sounds like a bug to me
User5: User3 please file a bug, that's a very good idea
User3: poolie, User5 I actually had a similar suggestion about the blueprint icon get rejected, but maybe it's worth another try.
User4: oh really, for what reason?
User4: branches are being much more actively developed than blueprints
User3: User4 Because there could be multiple linked, or something like that.
User3: It was rejected for more than just Blueprint being abandoned for >4 years.
User4: oh i see
User4: Pedantical, fuck yeah
User5: User3 that's the pretty much the same for bugs and blueprint, it's just that we hardly ever schedule work on blueprint these days
User5: User3 i don't think that there being more than one branch is a reason not to do this
User4: seems to me you should have either "bug 1234" (which is surely the common case) or "multiple bugs"
User2: Launchpad bug 1234 in launchpad-foundations "Gina is an unmaintainable mess of command line options, environment variables and shell scripts" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234
User4: or "bug 1234,1235, 1236"
User2: Launchpad bug 1235 in launchpad-foundations "When batch_start is >= the number of bugs shown, an error is raised" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1235
User4: hello bot :)
User2: Launchpad bug 1236 in malone "Malone column headings are all wrong" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1236
User3: User4 That's what I thought.
User3: User4 Pedantical?
 * wgrant biles a fug.
User3: Malone, I presume? Or lp-bzr?
User4: if you're talking about links to branches, i'd say lp-bzr
User5: User3 file it on malone, please
 * wgrant 's head explodes.
 * wgrant files it on malone.
User6: wgrant, you were asking about commit hooks for Tarmac.  I just landed it courtesy of statik
User7: User3 the title on the branch links for the listings used to be there
User7: User3 however it got vetoed by someone big
User7: User3 sorry
User7: User3 generally because there can be multiple links, and multiple badges was also vetoed
User8: User7 it sucks a bit that the rare case causes the common case to suck
User7: User8 excrement happens
User3: User7 Then someone big can veto mine again with a good reason, and I can contest it like the bastard I am,.
 * wgrant attracts $BIG_PERSON to bug #338070
User2: Launchpad bug 338070 in malone "Show name of linked branch in bug listings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/338070
User3: User6 Is tarmac landing tarmac branches as you, hence the odd commit messages?
User6: wgrant, what odd commit messages?
User6: There should only be one odd commit message, and that bug is fixed.
User3: User6 A commit by you saying "Fantastic project!", which I presume was in fact statik's specified commit message.
User6: wgrant, yeah.
User3: But all the commits show up with you as the commiter.
User6: wgrant, yeah, because that's the user that tarmac runs as.  I *could* create a user just for my tarmac instance, but it doesn't make a lot of sense.
User3: User6 Can't you just override whoami?
User3: The LP user doesn't matter.
User6: wgrant, I could, but that wouldn't make much sense, methinks.  I'd like Launchpad to be able to tell people who to abuse for a specific revision.
User6: The "Contact this user" button makes the LP user matter.
User6: I assume responsibility for my instance of Tarmac.
User3: The person to contact is the person who authored the branch.
User3: Ah, I see.
User6: I authored the branch that the revision is present in by setting a small script to do it.
User3: I don't see it that way.
User3: In a way it should be whoever set the bmp status.
User6: wgrant, there will be a commit message modification that will state who the reviewers were that approved it, but the person who actually did the merging is more responsible for it.
User6: Setting the branch to approved requires permissions.
User3: User6 But the person who did the merging is perfect (because it is a robot), and the only person who writes to the branch, so even its identity is uninteresting. The owner is even less interesting.
User6: wgrant, I don't completely disagree with you.  I'll have to think about it.
User3: User6 I'm not sure of the ideal solution, but I think neither the PQM nor Tarmac solutions are good.
User6: wgrant, which solution are you talking about.
User6: Are you talking about the robotic landing of branches?
User3: User6 No, the attribution of the commit.
User3: It is certainly nitpicking, but it is slightly important.
User3: Particularly in the tarmac case, as it shows it's you doing everything.
User6: wgrant, technically, it is me doing the landing.  I'm saying "Tarmac, do what I'm too lazy to do" and it says "In your name master."
User9: User26 Hello
User10: Guys just a quick heads up I keep getting time out errors on lp trying to report a bug it's been happening since last evening about 5-7 ish
User3: User10 edge.launchpad.net, or plain launchpad.net?
User10: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
User3: Ew.
User10: User3 http://paste.ubuntu.com/126608/ is what I'm getting
User10: daft thing is I can access other bugs I just can't write this new one :(
User3: User10 At what stage does it die?
User10: User3 I type in the summary and hit continue then get that page everytime since last night
User3: User10 What is the search term?
User3: Also, try https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug instead. It might work.
User10: User3 same thing
User3: What is the search string?
User10: it's not going to be something daft like the summary is too long is it?
User10: Jaunty: Codecs used in totem youtube plugin conflict with those in ubuntu-restricted-extras
User11: confirmed, same here with this subsect
User11: subject
User3: Me too.
User10: that was as short but as discriptive as I could get the title aswell
User10: User3 So is it just the search timing out then?  If so I can try and alter the subject and see if I can report
User3: User10 It is just the search, yes. Maybe the advanced reporting page would be better.
User10: So l changed the summary and it gone through now :)
User10: thanks for the help :)
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User12: barry, staging.launchpad.net seems to have fallen over
User12: If it was being resynced, it would show an offline page rather than an Oops page, right?
User13: User12 ouch, yes.  there was an email this morning about an update problem.  let me ping folks
User12: tnx
User13: User12 stub & losas are looking into it
User13: User12 staging is back online
User12: thanks barry
User14: ohai!
User14: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux - 15 months of publishing history maybe a little too much?
User13: User14 yeah, that pages takes a while to render, eh?
User14: just a bit
User13: and what does "see full publishing history..." give you that this page doesn't?
User13: a nice little summary i guess
User14: possibly the other 40 odd months of history. I'm too scared to find out ;)
User13: User14 it actually renders MUCH faster :)
User13: User14 what do you think? maybe the comments for supercededs should be suppressed?
User14: User13 my initial reaction was just that it should be paginated, with a page size that's reasonable for a small project and for things that are uploaded very frequently
User14: <!-- at least 805 queries issued in 10.03 seconds -->
User14: and the page souce is 2.64Mb
User13: User14 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/338318
User2: Launchpad bug 338318 in launchpad "linux source package page is way too big" [Undecided,New]
User14: User13 thanks, that popped up as a suggestion for the bug I was starting to file :)
User13: for some reason, i'm running 3 seconds ahead of everybody today :)
 * barry -> lunch
User15: hey guys, is there something wrong with the launchpad ssh server?
User15: I'm getting: SSHException: Error reading SSH protocol banner
User16: hello :)
User16: I got a time problem to report
User16: can a commit be done in the future? https://code.launchpad.net/~digisite-dev/digisite/head
User15: hmm... seems to be working again
User15: User16 timestamps are based on the time given by your machine
User15: and certainly your clock may be different from other people's
User16: not mine :)
User15: well, benni's
User16: alright then
User16: just looked weird :)
User16: hope it wont make problems
User15: User16 it won't matter in an hour :)
User16: bzr: ERROR: These branches have diverged.  Try using "merge" and then "push".
User16: i merged 5 minutes ago
User16: :'(
User17: yann2, they diverged again!
User17: active project
User17: did you commit?
User16: bah, am discovering bazaar
User16: I think the learning curve is just not that easy :)
User17: yann2, it depends against what you compare it to  ;)
User18: User16 http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/en/mini-tutorial/index.html
User18: ah wait, you're past that :P
User16: I think I managed my first merge \o/ ;) works pretty well
User17: congrats yann2
User16: :P
User9: Hello, question #62612 got marked as answered by mistake, how do I fix that ?
User19: hello any web admin here? need to close a project
User20: User19 what for ?
User19: SamB, I opened a project mostly because I wanted to test-run launchpad, I soon realised it was overkill for the size of my project
User19: SamB, it is now showing-up in search results and people are getting confused
User13: User19 which project?
User19: domus.Link
User13: User19 do you know about our staging server?
User19: barry, nope
User13: User19 staging.launchpad.net
User20: User13 a lot of good that does him *now*
User13: User19 you can do anything you want on that server.  it has a copy of the production database, but it gets reset every night (or thereabouts) so your changes get deleted
User13: User20 yeah, this is for next time :)
User19: barry, site isn't opening
User19: barry, ah ok but I see the point... yeah didn't know about it before
User13: User19 i know there was some planned maintenance on it, it'll be back up soon
User19: barry, sorry for the inconvinience
User13: User19 no, no cohencourtney@example.org.  let me see if i can get an admin to disable that project
User13: User19 just to verify: https://launchpad.net/domus.link
User19: barry, thanks. account however should remain active :)
User7: morning
User13: User19 yep!
User19: barry, that's it.
User13: cool, hang on a sec...
User13: User7 hi!
User7: hey barry
User21: how do i unlock a location
User13: User19 we request that you open a question so that the admins can look at your request.
User21: bzr break-lock lp-45955728:///~dereine/+junk/configfiles/.bzr/branch/lock itself does not work
User13: User19 https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+addquestion
User13: User19 use "Launchpad itself" as the project
User19: barry, will do
User13: User19 be sure to include the url to your project and paste the question url here when you've submitted it
User13: and i'll make sure it gets properly assigned
User19: barry, ok thanks
User13: User21 that looks like a weird bzr branch url
User13: User21 i just branched lp:~dereine/+junk/configfiles just fine.  where do you see the lock problem?
User13: User21 i.e. is that on a local branch?
User19: barry, question: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/63207
 * barry wonders why irc hates him so much
User13: User19 assigned to the losas
User19: barry, thanks :)
User13: np!
User19: btw the new site looks great! congrats on that
User13: User19 thanks!  we're excited about 3.0 also.  it's gonna rock
User22: User13 I see you are the help contact! Is staging down?
User13: User22 staging's been up and down all day.  it was oopsing earlier, but now that's fixed.  it was up for a while but right now it's not
User22: User13 that sucks.
User13: yeah
User23: User22 when you proposed my testresources branch for review, were you planning on reviewing it?
User23: (I'd be happy if you were)
User22: User23 I am!
User22: User23 but I haven't had the chance yet.
User23: yay
User22: User23 (and I wanted to generate a diff easily so I could just review it without fiddling about when the right confluence of time & energy arises)
User24: Is support for syncing straight from LP (for people with upload rights) targetted for any release?
User13: User24 i'm not quite sure what your question is asking.  do you mean branch sync'ing, translation sync'ing?
User24: package syncing
User24: i.e. from debian
User24: I heard that LP was getting a UI for this
 * Mez yawns
User3: User6 If the BMP diff isn't meant to update, what is the point of it?
User25: am surprised that this channel is so active nowadays
User25: hey wgrant and jamesh :D surprised to see you in here :D
User23: User25 I'm not in my normal time zone
User6: wgrant, for the original review.  If you want moving diffs, you need something like https://edge.launchpad.net/mad
User6: wgrant, Launchpad already requires a large amount of resources without having to update diffs on every single BMP.
User3: User6 Right, I discovered that from the bug. Maybe that should be advertised.
User3: Hi Mez.
User6: wgrant, thumper's going to publicize it, but it's relatively new.
User13: User24 other than PPAs i'm not aware of anything
User7: User3 it isn't a bug that the review diff doesn't change
User7: User3 it is a feature
User23: User6 even if you are running mad, the diff shown on the BMP page gets out of date.
User3: User7 It is not a feature. It is an unfortunate result of it being a heavy operation, isn't it?
User3: It also *needs* to show when it is out of date.
User7: User23 the confusion here is that the nice diff shown isn't the preview diff
User25: User23 no, I mean I didnt know you knew about SO :D
User7: User23 I have a plan to work with beuno to make the page nicer
 * Mez wonders what your karmas are :D
User25: oh, wait
 * Mez is an idiot
User3: SO?
 * Mez thought this was another channel :D
User25: hehe
User3: -ECHAN?
User3: Heheh.
User25: User3 stackoverflow - http://www.stackoverflow.com/ and #stackoverflow
User3: Ah.
User23: User7 it is confusing that that diff gets out of date when the developer fixes bugs during the review
User3: I do know of it, but I don't live in that channel.
User7: User23 well...
User7: User23 there are several problems here
User7: User23 all kinda related
User23: or if they make the proposal, notice a typo and fix it just after
User3: User7 Why is generating a BMP diff so much more expensive than viewing a revision diff in Loggerhead?
User6: wgrant, you do know the state of Loggerhead right?
User3: User6 I was about to say that, yes...
User3: But until it dies, it works fine.
User24: User13 Thanks, filing a bug then
User6: wgrant, ask the losas how often it dies, and then ask yourself whether you'd like something similar from Launchpad.
User6: wgrant, in fairness to Loggerhead, we've made large strides recently.
User3: User6 I am aware of how often it dies.
User26: User6 * * * * * /etc/init.d/loggerhead restart <== is *very very* tempting
User6: spm, !
User6: :)
User3: But I don't imagine that the short-lived branch puller would have such a problem. My main point was that Loggerhead can, when it is not broken, generate a diff quickly.
User6: wgrant, not a diff between two branches, just a diff between two revisions.
User3: User6 Hmm, true...
User27: Ermm... I just got an email from a Cuban librarian (who wants to try Ubuntu/Kubuntu in the library), but can't download the ISOs due to crappy cuban connections, and can't register for shipit because of some form of web filtering by the government. Who should I forward him to / etc?
User28: User25 for a moment there, I thought you were a different Mez (http://mezziah.org/)
User25: cj :(
User28: User25 huh?  Why the long face?
User25: cause I *was* unique. then the fake ones started coming along
User13: User27 let me see if i can dig something up
User27: User13 Thanks
User29: ryanakca, please ask him to write to cohencourtney@example.org explaining the situation and their address so that we can send them some CDs
User27: User29 thanks
User30: How can I make a new announcement for my project? I don't see the button.
User13: User30 which project?  for one you own it should be right under the "report a bug" button
User30: I'm in the driver ream, but the maintainer is another person
User13: User30 that may be why you don't see it.  off hand i don't know if the driver can make announcements
User30: yes, I see it now, need to be maintaner / par of maintainer team
User30: *part
User30: sorry 'bout that
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