User1: knome, a reminder that you were going to investigate http://imagebin.org/299466
User1: once that's settled, I can push the remaining 8 or so chapters that depend on it
User2: you can push them, that's related to entities
User2: so we don't need to change the markup
User2: only the entities file
User1: knome, MP is pushed
User2: MP or branch? :)
User2: i saw the email really quickly, but it went via a mail filter somewhere deep in the bin
User2: hmm, wait
User2: didn't i approve and merge this already?
User2: i did the other MP manually since it would have reintroduced stuff that was already fixed
User2: besides, you have push rights to the main branch yourself, i trust you to push only sane things
User3: But not me. :D
User2: well that's why you don't have the push rights
 * knome hides
User3: With that last one, I'm done on docs right?
User2: nevar
User2: :)
User2: you have entered a room. the door behind you is locked from outside. what do you do?
User2: you stood still for a time too long, and one of the doc team people noticed you with no task. you are assigned a new doc team task. what do you do?
User2: :P
User3: re-sync'd mine with master.
User2: jjfrv8, User3 you might want to look at lp:~knome/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xubuntu-uife
User3: (Should actually have been done properly too, pushed as linguas2.)
User2: didn't see any MP. hard to see diff's.
User3: You were going to look before I went for the merge, make sure I'm in the right ballpark.
User2: well,
User2: it's easier to look at a MP and diff
User2: but i can look at the branch as is
User2: will try to get to that tomorrow, since doc freeze soon
User3: Err, whoops then.
 * Unit193 should have set jjfrv8 as reviewer again. :P
User2: heh
User3: Actually, line 103 would be of interest to him.
User2: === modified file 'scripts/translate.sh'
User2: seriously? :)
User2: i guess you mean lines 114-115
User3: Well, that it's modified is of interest of course.
User3: So technically the coreutils dep isn't precisely correct, but it basically is.
User2: heh
User3: If you use the linguas file, it isn't, but it falls back to a method that uses basename -s, so I left the dep in there.  What do you think?
User2: the dependency is okay
User3: Want anymore reviewers?
User2: i'll tell you tomorrow
User2: or add myself
User3: Feel free to ask any questions.  It'd be nice to move the entire translation things into the translate script, but I was pretty sure you didn't want that. :/
User2: let's get the translations into trusty, then we can improve
User3: Sure, just means the clean target is a tad slower.
User2: yaeh, but first time we have translations
 * Unit193 hopes for a full Russian translation yet.
User2: mmh, would be good to get several languages in
User2: i'm off for now
User2: see you later
User3: Tschau!
User4: User2 slideshow looks ok - the red looks better :p - all done now?
User5: knome, User6 just talked to seb128 and Laney about the FFe for light-locker1.4.0, they both said it should be fine
User5: knome, User6 also, cavalier wants to wait with 1.4.0 release till the weekend so we get more translations. i suggest we prep the changes in light-locker-settings and think what we wanna have as default setting
User5: bbiab
User2: elfy, red? :P
User2: elfy, no, two minor changes yet.
User2: hey ochosi
User5: hey knome
User5: just sent you an updated tahr-ball
User2: aha
User6: User5 alrighty, sounds good
User5: User6 so i guess let's start testing light-locker 1.3.0 and work on l-l-s again...
User6: yeah
User7: what did change?
User5: option 1: late-locking (BOOL)
User5: option 2: lock-on-suspend (BOOL)
User7: oh, great
User5: if (late-locking) { greeter-screensaver-timeout = 0; }
User5: else { greeter-screensaver-timeout = $default_value; }
User7: makes sense :D
User5: User6 ^
User7: will the changes land in beta2?
User5: i'm really happy retrospectively speaking that we introduced that timeout as an option in the greeter already
User5: that way we don't have to touch the greeter at all for this FFe
User6: User7 ideally
User7: how do you pass the new greeter timeout?
User5: User7 modify /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
User5: that's the only way
User5: at least right now
User7: multi user systems... :(
User5: so yeah, before you say it, multiple users can override each other
User7: :P
User5: but that's *always* the case
User5: even now
User5: per-user greeter settings just don't make sense at all
User7: only people with root privileges can change it anyway
User5: ypu
User5: yup
User8: User2 is rev 625 of the ubiquity slideshow going to be our final? I'm asking so I know if I can start working on its translation?
User2: don't start yet
User2: it's not final
User8: do you still think that somethings could be improved?
User2: we are missing one slide
User2: etc...
User2: i need to work on the artwork
User8: missing one slide where?
User2: in the slideshow
User2: ;)
User8: loare we going to add one more slide?
User8: s/loare/are
User5: humm, new whiskermenu bugfix release
User2: slickymasterWork, just HOLD. :)
User8: User2 alrightie
User2: slickymasterWork, i will get a UIFe bug filed today, get it merged and hopefully uploaded soon
User6: User5 has it been packaged already (whisker)?
User5: nope, i don't think so
User5: that's why i mentioned it
User5: just read the release-mail on xfce users ml
User6: ah
User2: heh
User6: ok, I'll get to that tonight if Noskcaj doesn't beat me to it
User2: we got handed a package of cashew-peanut-papaya-raisin mix
User2: mission accomplished:
User2: a bowl of raisins left
User6: that would be handy
User6: I bought raisin bran
User2: how's that so satisfying
User6: pretty sure there are 5 raisins in the box
User2: to eat all but the raisins
User2: aha, should send you more
User2: :P
User6: so, I will work on packaging for shimmer-themes, xflock, and potentially whisker tonight
User2: bluesabre, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/trusty_slideshow/slide_per.png
User2: bluesabre, opinion?
User6: use a tahr or a more adorable kitty?
User6: or, grumpy cat
User6: other than that, looks good to me
User2: hah
User2: watch the words
User2: slickymasterWork, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/trusty_slideshow/slide_per.png
User6: s/good/incredible/
User2: hah
User2: no, the "more adorable"
User6: :)
User2: somebody in this room owns that cat
User8: I was already seeing it
User8: why a cat?!
User6: heh
User2: why not?
User2: isn't it a good pun ;)
User7: mmh, the slide mentions libreoffice, but we don't ship it by default
User3: User5 Jackson knows about it, for some reason told me about it, and 1.3.1 is up.
User5: User3 hm, you mean whisker?
User8: User7 the reference to LibreOffice relates to Mugshot
User2: bluesabre, your fault!
User3: 1.3.2 is out, what I said is outdated now.
User2: i guess we can drop the mention just as well
User2: it's mentioned in the docs anyway
User7: User8 I know that
User2: in a better way
User2: "*if* you have libreoffice..."
User5: User3 yup
User7: but it might give the user the impression that libreoffice is installed by default
User7: User2 ok
User2: brainwash, User6 damn you two, can either change their nick, same length and same initial is no good
User2: :P
User3: Tell me about it.. :P
User5: +1
User5: s/bluesabre/bluesabretooth/
User5: s/brainwash/brainwashed/
User2: lol
User5: well, that was easy, eh?
User2: you can just s/bluesabre/bs/ ;)=
User3: FWIW, I read 'bluesabre' as blues bre, like what a minion in Despicable Me says.
User2: papple!
User3: Banana!
User2: thanks... now i have to use some time to watch clips on youtube
User6: gotta run, bbl
User1: knome, looks like we got our signals crossed with the recent MPs. When I pulled 163, I saw that some screensaver references were stil in there...
User2: mhm
User1: so I assumed you had not merged my latest version. That's why I just copied the two chapters with those references over again this morning
User1: so I'm hoping everything is right now, but it looks like there's one paragraph in the current MP that's the same as the xubuntu-docs branch
User1: bbl
User9: hi everybody
User2: hey
User4: afternoon
User4: really sorry about this - but reported a thunar bug ;)
User4: bug 1294209
User10: bug 1294209 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Deleting files from desktop freezes machine" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1294209
User11: ouch
User4: hi pleia2
User11: hi there elfy
User5: hey micahg
User9: hi guys
User4: hi jhenke
User5: hey
User7: User4 thanks for yet another thunar/xfdesktop bug :P
User4: I do my best ;)
User5: there's a new xfdesktop release btw
User5: hope we can get that in, it has lotsa nice bugfixes
 * elfy really ought to subscribe to some of these xfce m/lists ...
User3: I check commits every few days.
User3: Sooooooo, not sure if it's been fixed in the latest Trusty kernel, but graphics work in liquorix. :P
User9: how was the name of the package the include all the packaing/devel tools again?
User9: I've forgot the name and I am on a fresh VM image
User2: build-essential?
User3: It's what I was thinking, but packaging?
User9: yes that was it
User9: just forgot the name
User9: sorry guys, just experienced a segfault in xfwm4, bug 1294264
User10: bug 1294264 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "xfwm4 crashed with SIGSEGV in _int_malloc()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1294264
User5: interesting
User5: lots of segfaults all over the place lately
User9: short question shall I add a changelog entry after I updated a patch or is that the taks of the person accpeting the pull request?
User5: User9 yeah, changelog is good generally
User5: but not mandatory
User9: okay I have fixed the problem in my private branch, to whom shall I send the merge request for xfce4-session?
User5: User9 can you quickly point me to it?
User5: generally speaking, this would be the routine:
User5: 1) check whether there's a bugreport upstream
User5: 2) if not, submit one
User5: 2) if so, check it
User5: 3) add the patch there and a comment
User5: 4) wait patiently until the/a maintainer picks it up
User5: if it's a fix we want in xubuntu and that wont go into a bugfix release soon enough, we can add it to xubuntu
User5: for that to happen, simply file a merge request for xfce4-session
User9: I just modified the patch that was already in xubuntu
User9: ochosi https://code.launchpad.net/~jhe/ubuntu/trusty/xfce4-session/light-locker/+merge/211605
User5: right
User5: there were a few discussions around that
User5: we knew about this simple patch :)
User9: I just reordered the locking so light locker is always used first if available
User9: shouldn't cause any regressions
User5: well it shouldnt *now* because light-locker now checks whether it's running (with the 1.2.1 update)
User5: before that update it was actually not entirely unproblematic
User5: hey Noskcaj
User12: morning ochosi
User5: just a quick heads up
User5: new bugfix releases for xfdesktop and whiskermenu today
User5: if you have time, that'd be great
User12: yep, packaging now
User5: bluesabre said he could take care of whisker, so xfdesktop would have higher priority
User5: but if you wanna do both, i guess he won't be mad at you :p
User12: I'll do both in debian, i'm guessing he meant straight to ubuntu
User5: possibly, i dunno
User5: but debian sounds good
User12: also, tthe indicator update finally hit trusty
User5: which one?
User12: 2.3.2
User5: ah great
User5: the theming fixes we did )
User5: ah, no, the prop dialog
User5: theming fixes was 2.3.1
User9: hi Noskcaj
User12: hey jhenke
User5: have a good one everyone
User4: bug 1290575
User10: bug 1290575 in LightDM GTK+ Greeter "lightdm-gtk-greeter does not exit cleanly when logging in" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290575
User4: is this one fixed or not - got it affecting 2 things - one's confirmed the other fixed
User4: if whoever thinks it is fixed then it isn't
User7: User4 apparently not fixed
User7: the greeter was patched to exit properly and free allocated memory, but there seems to be another problem
User7: a problem which I cannot reproduce
User7: it happened once so far and I simply blamed xmir for breaking it
User4: lol
User4: well I don't have that so we can't blame it :p
User7: right, but you have some log files we would like to see I guess :D
User4: probably
User4: but let's not get into that guessing game stuff again - you tell me what you want and I'll provide it
User7: basically the stuff in /var/log/lightdm
User4: next time it happens I'll add it to the bug report
User7: thanks, you can skip the .old files, because these are the log files created by the previous lightdm or greeter start
User7: and the files containing a number greater than 0
User4: yep
User4: just the 2 lightdm.log and x-0.log
User7: and x-0-greeter
User4: yep - didn't see that
User4: ta
User9: good night
User4: night jhenke
User7: User5 bug 1293305
User10: bug 1293305 in exo (Ubuntu) "Several icon themes lack an "internet-mail" icon, causing it to go missing from the XFCE menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1293305
User7: any thoughts?
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