User1: UDS up now.
User2: http://ubuntu-rocks.org is what i turned it into for now.
User2: (until Joey doth command me to do more)
User1: Are you a remote control web developer?
User2: what exactly do you mean by that?
User2: =)
User2: Remote Control being a device that sends infrared signals to my TV somehow doesnt fit in with web-dev
User2: (in my head)
User1: "remote control" doesn't contain infra-red in it anywhere :)
User1: I can remote control through ssh, and in this case IRC :)
User1: I've got 26 more minutes of this BOF, in which I wanna be.
User2: lol.
User2: well if what you mean by "remote control web developer" is -- I use "ssh and vim" to "remotely" develop websites (after i've uploaded a basic "design") -- Well then; I'll steal your term and put it on my resume.
User2: MitchM -- Remote Control Web Developer / Peon Extraordinare.
User1: hehe :)
User1: hmm
User1: toby gave up abit too early there...
User3: sorry for the repeat, but
User3: anyone have any good materials regarding introducing people to linux?
User3: I often find myself at a loss for the correct words when somebody asks me, "What exactly is linux?"
User1: whylinuxisbetter.com
User1: BHSPitLappy
User1: IT's made by Ubuntu's very own Manu Cornet.
User3: cool
User3: so many people have asked me lately, too (since I bring it up often)
User3: and I try to make sense of it, but it's not easy ;)
User1: yep :)
User3: explaining the concept of distros, and that linux is really just the backbone of them all
User3: but often refers to the entire linux / open-source world, etc
User3: when you think about it, we're a really disorganized bunch ;)
User1: very
User1: that's what the community-oriented BOFs are for. This one was really good.
User1: Anyway, I'm falling asleep as i speak.
User1: night :)
User3: night
User4: anyone 'round?
User5: ^^
User4: howdy - I realize that most of the Ubuntu folks are probably in the UK or S. Africa... so it's probably not the best time of day :-)
User5: User4 I'm just an ubuntu worshipper, what's up?
User5: User4 or they're @ google :)
User4: right on - me too...   I noticed that the mailing list isn't especially active and wanted to see if IRC was a better place to hash things out
User5: User4 you looking for support? Search /list for ubuntu
User5: User4 #ubuntu #kubuntu #xubuntu #edubuntu and more
User5: User4 #ubuntu-offtopic #kubuntu-offtopic
User4: no no no....  sorry if my chatter is unprofessional
User5: User4 #ubuntuforums
User4: I'm into marketing by trade
User5: User4 ah, have you posted to the marketing mailing list?
User4: yes
User5: User4 probably the best place aside from here IMO
User4: right on
User5: User4 since time zones are an issue for some
User4: precisely
User4: are you able to give me a sense of how closely ubuntu-marketing works with the LoCo's?
User5: User4 I would suggest you speak with an ubuntu member, someone who may address your questions much better than I.
User5: User4 as I said, I just sing from the ubuntu hymnal :)
User4: guilty as well :-)
User4: do you mind my asking where you're located?
User4: ...I'm having trouble finding folks in my area with whom I might start a LoCo
User5: User4 on a strange round planet, imprisoned by gravity
User4: har har
User5: User4 have you tried asking around in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
User5: User4 lots of chatters in there now
User4: will do - sorry to bother
User5: not a bother ;/
User5: User6 how goes the obey ubuntu posters? :)
User6: done, actually
User5: wee
User5: do you still have all the designs in the stages of incarnation?
User6: not really, but it's in SVG so it's easy to recreate
User6: one sec, I'll find the URL for you
User5: kewl thx
User5: you don't have your test designs in jpg png or whatever?
User6: PNG & SVG http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Ubuntu_Posters_Roughcut/
User6: and a little readme
User5: sweet
User5: thx
User6: no problem. It was a fun experiment - getting a more hand-drawn look from Inkscape, vs the very sleek look usually associated w/ vector drawings
User5: User6 =) I'm glad you had fun with it
User5: I was surprised anyone ran with the idea
User5: User6 very nicely done, thanks =)
User3: Madpilot, now open-source your newly-learned inkscape skills
User5: User6 will that url remain on ubuntu.com? I'd like to add a link to that on my site
User6: lotusleaf, yes, that's the Marketing Team's bzr repo, so it's stable
User5: User6 sweet, thx again =)
User7: hey slackers
User7: :D
User7: whose up for some UWN hacking?
User6: hi Burgundavia. Having fun with your fan club on the -ca ML?
User5: User7 http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Ubuntu_Posters_Roughcut/
User5: User7 Obey Ubuntu! :)
User7: User6 tonnes
User8: bbl, off to play some F.E.A.R.
User7: madpilot: where is that cd holding box?
User6: Burgundavia, um... not sure, just a sec.
User9: User7 Front page of DIY Marketing iirc
User7: ah
User7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk5mF1FdNl4&mode=related&search=
User7: interesting
User1: User6 I'm not sure how important it is, but the trademark line should be Ubuntu, Canonical and the Ubuntu logo are trademarks of Canonical Ltd.
User6: jenda, on my roughcut poster?
User7: User1 you got some DIY website love soon?
User1: User7 I'm having trouble with website makers, but it's getting there.
User1: User7 diy.devubuntu.com is where davidtorres@example.com.
User7: hmm
User7: we still need a palce for people to upload to
User1: bzr bzr bzr
User6: jenda, only if it works :|
* jenda is still hoping that bzr will have a http interface to look at from your browser too.
User1: It doesn't work at times?
User7: I think it does
User7: bzr is not good enough
User1: Well... I guess the cronjob business is a little bit of a hack...
User7: it requires a commandline and you need to install it
User7: we need a completely web-based tool
User1: ok
User1: agreed
User6: jenda, who has upload rights to marketing's bzr repo?
User1: User6 the entire ubuntu-marketing team.
User7: basically, a document management tool
User1: bug the launchpad people, I guess.
User1: spec it?
User6: jenda, you sure? Even after I registerd an SSH key on LP, I couldn't get uploading working...
User1: I'm pretty sure... the product is ~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu
User6: Burgundavia, who was working on that bzr-for-marketing-team tut, and where is it?
User7: hmm, I forget
User7: poningru maybe
User1: tut?
User7: tutorial
User10: nixternal is
User10: no clue where that is
User1: ah
User10: I agreed to help him with it
User7: nixternal is at MTV, no?
User10: no
User1: nixternal was the one who uploaded your posters, Madpilot
User1: ie. he must have access...
User10: but I had/have couple of conferences to finish
User6: jenda, yeah, he finally got it working; I just stuck them up on the ubuntu.ca server, which I have full access to
User10: finished one today
User1: ok
User1: I wonder what wasn't working.
User6: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bzr
User6: it was nixternal ^^
User10: so yeah one thing I learned at the conferences today was apperantly my uni has a software usability center
User7: night
User10: and I am getting them to do usability studies on nvu
User10: next in line is ubuntu/gnome
User1: The Czech LoCo team has been asked in an interview what progress has been made towards new-user-accessibility in Edgy (for which Ubuntu is renowned). Anyone have any tips?
User1: pm
User1: oops
User11: i got a message from john little, and now that the elections are over with he should be returning
User1: he's in politics?
User11: he has been super busy on the campaign trails working along side the houston chronicle as an independent political blogger
User11: oh ya jenda, big time politician
User12: ok, that rocks
User1: neat :)
User11: he is very famous in politics
User12: I was wondering about that
User1: BTW, you guys, have a look at the front page of the Ubnutu Forums...
User11: well, not very famous, but politicians know who he is
User1: (I didn't even ask)
User11: hehe
User11: Ubuntu Posters
User1: yep
User12: cool
User11: i thought they were cheaper than that for some reason
User1: They are :)
User11: oh
User11: i thought they were bigger than that as well, i was thinking posters
User1: Once the idea bubbled up to the point where I should give Ryan the price etc, I gave him $2 per poster, of which $1 will be a donation to the forums.
User1: They are A3
User11: however, i sure could use a bunch, as i want to post them all over my school
User1: it's poster size :)
User1: 10 for $15
User1: You never saw a different price.
User11: ok, thats what i thought ;)
User1: :)
User11: i know
User11: umm..
* nixternal points at ubuntulog --:>
User1: eeek
* jenda whispers
User11: hahahaha
User11: rofl
User1: $25 is the price only for purchases by that button on the forums.
User13: wow, i see the poster business is really taking off!
User13: !ubuntulog
User14: Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntulog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
User13: damn
User12: ubuntulog is the logging daemon
User12: there probably shoudl be a factoid about it
User13: where can i find the log?
User12: User14 ubuntulog is a logging bot run on various Ubuntu channels. You can read the logs at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
User13: wow... that page is well indexed! they need to get a beagle on that fast!
* tsmithe just reinvented google (thought of a "beagle web app")!
User1: hehe :)
User1: Start a business and turn filthy rich next.
User13: yeah!
User13: i just read the "current log", and i can't remember any of the beginning, even though it says i joined
User13: does it log quits?
User13: i dont really understand how current it is either
User1: User13 I thing so.
User13: well, unless you were talking about another toby (which is quite likely), when you said "toby gave up abit too early there...", suggests i came and left rather quickly...
User13: but then i do remember the discussion on the price of the posters: "You never saw a different price." but it seems that my first quote was eleven hours before...
User1: aha
User1: I believe you came in, asked sometnig and left, no?
User13: it seems that i didnt say anything
User13: so, i must have left. in which case, it doesnt log quits
User13: oh, and i added you on jabber (gotta flaunt my gmail account)
User1: sure
User1: added you too.
* MitchM pokes Jenda
User1: ouch!
User2: =)
User1: What's up? :)
User2: oh -- just felt like poking you.
User2: so -- nothing really...
User2: how is diy comming?
User13: website looks alright so far
User13: i'd like to help out, but i'm rather rusty (haven't coded an anywhere near decent) web app in a while; and i'm behind on all the snazzy technologies like ajax...
User13: why does he want to help people get xboxes?
User13: tut tut tut
User13: oh; and i've managed to give away all my cds. they went quite quickly in the end
User15: lol we had a lecturer at uni tell us all to use suse for an assignment - handed out ubuntu cd's hehe all gone
User13: coolio!
User13: why is suse better than ubuntu?!
User15: na i think our uni love novell
User15: and cisco :E
User13: what, with the recent deal with ms! and cisco's no better either
User1: User2 ah, it's going slow. The people who offer to help mysteriously disappear...
User15: just smells like a load of ballmer
User5: embalmer?
User5: User1 offer to help what
User1: User5 diy.devubuntu.com
User5: ah
User5: I think a lot of people have good ideas and intentions, but as with anything which is volunteer, actual efforts are lacking
User5: reminds me when I used to make total conversions for games in the 1990'ies, and people would ask me to help them with their idea, they had all the ideas but had no means to work on their goals, unless I or someone else did the work for them =)
User1: I'll say :)
User1: User5 I'm the guy that constantly has them ideas and intentions...
User1: And then, when it comes to ... implementing them...
User1: ehm...
User13: php is good!
User5: User1 well you had posters printed right?
User1: I have to find someone who can actually do things :)
User5: User1 that's following through
User1: I did, true.
User1: :)
User5: well, there you go! :)
User5: how many other ppl do you see trying to do something like that
User13: i'm off to bed...
User1: MInd, I had HanZo make them, and a pro printer to print them ;)
* tsmithe yawns, with the thought of the awaiting maths homework to do in the morning...
User15: User1 are there many people working on ubuntu marketing?
User1: User15 not really :(\
User1: ANd yet, some are doing good efforts locally.
User1: I'm hoping to have an influx of LoCo people to help out after the UDS :)
User13: i want to help!
User1: I'll draft you, then :)
* StikkitJim wants to help!
User13: what kind of help is needed?
User1: What can you do?
User1: hmm
User1: I'm a tidbit busy ATM... my BOF is about to start...
User13: short list!
User1: But, basically, I need to get diy.devubuntu.com finalised, and kick off from there.
User1: Once that's done,
User13: i'll try to help
User15: I have access to lots of fancy cameras, editing equipment, tv studio, and a good salesperson
User1: I want a list of HOWTOs people can follow to do marketing locally.
User1: ooo
User5: User1 excellent idea
User1: Well...
User1: umm
User13: ok: easy for howtos
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