User1: hello
User1: the daily of today have kde 4.10 ?
User1: hello, the daily of today have kde 4.10 ?
User1: hello all
User2: hi
User3: morning.
User3: hey.. anybody also have strange System Tray Problems? i get plasma crashes and then in the System Tray some entries will be duplicated or added, look at this http://i.imgur.com/1Cbskja.png
User3: needed to remove system tray, cause the whole panel get suck
User4: 0.o
User4: User3 looks like a bug in KSNI
User4: or some other app
User5: Hello.
User5: What's wrong with Kubuntu? I've tried everything I possibly could find on the web to try to make Krunner actually start on every boot.
User5: Also, the log out / sleep / shutdown / restart options don't do anything at all every second boot.
User4: krunner does start on every boot 0.o
User4: what happens if you press alt+F2
User5: User4 It doesn't show up...
User4: huh
User5: I have to start krunner manually.
User5: If I want to use krunner to launch apps, I have to start it manually.
User4: oh ...
User4: maybe #kde can help
User4: though I don't know why that would happen, and don't know what starts krunner in the first place
User4: User5 make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed?
User5: Yes, I'm 100% sure.
User5: This install was done by using the 12.04 install kit.
User5: It's fully updated and I've been having this problem for some time.
User5: I've even reinstalled the kubuntu-desktop package to be 100% sure it's installed with all its deps.
User4: hmm, then I have no idea
User5: http://paste.kde.org/665768/
User5: This is what I get in kdm.log.
User4: errr
User4: that's not good
User4: and I was about to say it could be a dbus issue
User5: Yes, I have to get this dbus issue fixed.
User4: User5 check if dbus-x11 and dbus are installed?
User5: I've reinstalled them by hand, they were already at the latest versions.
User4: User5 can you check what happens if you launch kdeinit4 by hand ( in a terminal )
User4: once you've logged in
User5: I get the same error.
User4: okay
User4: User5 eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax`
User4: that will print out some vars
User4: please export them in bash, and then try launching kdeinit4
User5: User4 That worked, however, it couldn't start because it can't connect to the screen.
User4: ah
User4: export DISPLAY=:0
User4: then kdeinit4
User5: It threw an error saying it can't communicate with kded.
User4: *blink*
User4: User5 run kded4
User4: your install seems a bit screwed up
User5: User4 Thank you. I'll try to reinstall all the packages for kde.
User4: well ... did you edit startkde or any system files?
User4: and did running kded4 work?
User6: booting SLES with init=/bin/bash, but no usb-keyboard available - any ideas?
User5: User6 How
User7: kubuntu 13.04 live cd, I set "kubuntu" user a password, add it to a group, logout,  but at login I'm asked for the password and does not work (can't login again). Any clue?
User5: How's that related to kubuntu, duderino?
User6: oh sorry backjlack - wrong forum ;) - but same problem surely for kubuntu, because kernel related?
User8: when are the kubuntu packages for 4.10 showing up?
User4: almost there
User9: hello everyone
User10: seems packaging 4.10 is underway?
User9: Peace-: hi
User9: User10 ya
User10: goodie, I had a look on kubuntu_devel but the activities going are way above my levle
User10: level
User11: hi,guys,while i'm using vim the state said: = s:siso_save,what does that meaning?
User12: is anybody else experiencing frequent hickups on Kubuntu Raring? when I change to another directory in dolphin I often get the entire system freezing for a second or two, when interacting with plasmoids (ie. click the battery monitor or NM applet)
User12: Peace-: but it is not limited to dolphin, it's the entire system. sometimes when I close a tab in Chrome it freezes for a couple of seconds, sometimes when I start an application â¦
User7: anyone using apt-cacher-ng? I've a lot of troubles with "not found" or "Data integrity error when decompressing"
User12: hmm
User12: yeah since version 18 chromium's quality goes down with every release :(
User12: I tried rekonq (which is basically the same rendering engine) but it doesn't fit my need
User12: has the same weird tab bar, so, no :)
User13: So, we're getting the KDE 4.10 updating via Backports, am I right?
User10: User13 I just did apt-get update and got 300+ packages to update and yes backport
User10: hm, that is an assumption actually... on 12.10 could be updates, not backports?
User10: User13 should be kubuntu-updates for 12.10 and backports for 12.04
User10: if released for Precise, I don't kow
User10: know
User13: User10 okay, thank you
User13: do you also know if 4.10 will include the appmenu feature?
User13: to hide the menu bar?
User10: User13 am wrong, checked on 12.10 and it is backports here
User10: User13 as it is part of 4.10 I assume
User13: User10 oh okay
User13: yeah,  i was looking at PPA it was all 4.10
User13: pretty cool to get an update right after KDE.org anounces it
User10: User13 will wait until announcement is made myself, have happened some packages come late
User10: and then you can get problems, take my word for it
User13: User10 hah that's true
User13: but it just finished updating
User13: going brb and see what i've got
User13: User10 works pretty well so far
User10: User13 also taking the jump here :-)
User13: User10 nice!
User5: User4 kded was already running.
User5: User4 I didn't edit any system files.
User5: This problem was temporarily fixed once or twice by completely erasing my .kde folder.
User5: However, I'm still unable to log out, sleep, restart or shutdown the system. It looks like it's broken all the time now.
User5: I can only reboot and shutdown via the console.
User14: User13 how u get that appmenu setting?
User15: hello
User15: Will be available kde 4.10 for kubuntu 12.10?
User15: I have enabled kubuntu ppa
User16: Hey. Right now i have kde 4.10 rc3 from the kubuntu-ppa beta and the kubuntu-ppa, no packages yet
User16: i guess those will be avaiable during the day
User15: i have this repository
User16: Arch and suse have it already
User15: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu
User16: yeah, that's it. The update should be there any moment
User15: ok, thanks
User16: I'm searching around the forums to see if there are any news about it
User15: i've been receiving all the 4.9.x updates but i didnt know about that
User15: 12.04 i guess
User16: hehe, yeah
User16: hey Mokie. Like ovidiu-florin said, i see the 4.10 packages are in the backports ppa
User16: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
User16: nothing in kubuntu updates ppa
User15: yeah, i know that there are on the backports
User15: i hope it will be on the kubuntu updates
User5: It won't be in updates.
User5: It will only be in backports.
User16: "Backports of new versions of KDE and major KDE apps for Kubuntu which are either too large a change or not yet tested enough to go to Ubuntu Backports."
User16: i guess so ;-)
User16: updating
User5: 12.04 didn't receive 4.9.x outside of the ppa.
User15: so the only way to get kde 4.10 on kubuntu 12.10 will be the backports repository?
User17: yes because it is a backport
User16: don't know in the future, right now the packages are there (compiled 3 hours ago)
User16: yeah, like Tm_T said
User17: User16 they're not really ready for consumption necessarily until it's announced I'd say
User16: i hope they fix the blur delay in final
User16: Ok ;-) in any case, i'm keeping both repositories
User15: ok, it seems that we have to wait and see
User18: hi everybody
User16: hey
User5: Time to reboot to find out if the issue with the missing krunner and log off / sleep / shutdown / reboot is fixed with 4.10.
User18: The splitted zip archive which is made with zip command can not be extracted with ark and can not be opened with 7zip on windows.
User18: could anyone help
User18: with normal whole zip archive there is no problem
User16: did you try running unzip in command line using the first zip file of the collection?
User18: anyone wondering that sutiaton. Could try on their system
User5: KDE 4.10 is nice. It also fixed my problems.
User16: cool backjlack
User5: Just so everyone knows and sees this: if anyone encounters problems with krunner not running or they're unable to log off / sleep / restart / shutdown, please tell them to install KDE 4.10 from the ppa. It fixes the problems.
User5: It's time for me to join KDE now: http://jointhegame.kde.org/
User16: ok, i'm installing the update right now, let's see if they fix the blur delays
User5: User16 If that was being caused by bad performance, it might be fixed.
User18: <Eversmann>: now i realise the unzip commnad not working also
User19: I have a couple of users who cannot logout.  When they click logout, nothing seems to happen.  Suggestions?  I know we can mv .kde .kde.old and this seems to correct the problem but then they need to reconfigure kde to their liking.
User16: ok. I'll rebooting, i'll tell in a minute. With 4.9 i didn't have the problem, let's see.....
User18: <Eversmann>: i have this files books.z01  books.z02  books.zip
User18: <Eversmann>: unzip books.zip
User18: Archive:  books.zip
User18: warning [books.zip]:  zipfile claims to be last disk of a multi-part archive;
User18: attempting to process anyway, assuming all parts have been concatenated
User18: together in order.  Expect "errors" and warnings...true multi-part support
User18: doesn't exist yet (coming soon).
User18: file #1:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  4
User20: User18 Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
User21: Hey all
User18: what is my problem anyone could help
User22: User18 you need to concatenate the parts into one zip file
User22: "Multi-part  archives  are  not yet supported, except in conjunction with zip.  (All parts must be concatenated together in order, and then ``zip -F'' (for zip 2.x) or ``zip -FF'' (for zip 3.x) must be performed on the concatenated archive in order to ``fix'' it." -- from the man page for unzip
User13: hi BluesKaj
User21: hi mr0wl
User18: User22 thanks i will try
User18: User22 Thank you very much it works
User22: you're welcome
User23: anyone here able to make KDE look like Mac?
User24: User23 There is probably something on the following link that can do so: http://kde-look.org/
User25: Well, some Kwin / deKorator themes
User23: User24 there is many in gnome-look but only one in kde-look, and that also not close to mac :(
User23: User25 what is dekorator themes?
User25: mixed with some QtCurve customization
User25: User23 honestly I have less idea about that myself :(
User25: I also can't remember how I installed it XD
User23: User25 well QTCurve seems worth looking into :) thanks
User21: c2tarun, why not a 'windows" look :) , but what's wrong with kde ?
User25: that and look into the KFaenza icon themes too
User25: all installable from "get new themes" in settings :)
User23: User21 well configuring it to look like others is a power in KDE not a weakness or wrong or like that.
User25: I usually go for a hybrid look with a custom touch
User23: User21 also I am little bored with default look ;) so trying some tweaks
User25: and on multimonitor setups, I like the fact that I can have custom widgets/panel layouts
User21: there are other themes then default one can explore
User21: than
User25: I personally take inspiration from OS X and Windows while configuring mine
User23: yeah, I'll look into them as well, its just Mac really really looks good ;) , I still feel its not worth the money they charge
User25: OS X for global menus as example
User23: and what is point of having KDE and not able to experiment with its configuration
User21: c2tarun, none , but to make it look like a different OS is not the same thing
User21: to me that's disloyal :)
User25: I think maybe he means just the looks
User23: User21 hmm.... its just looks. Its like Tom Cruise, who looks good but can't act. So if somebody wan't to look like Tom Cruise can't be disloyal :)
User21: do what you want , it just rubs me the wrong way
User19: The only think windows inspires me to do is vomit !
User23: User19 don't blame them, they are trying. (They copied start screen from GNOME3) :P which acts funny.
User26: hey all
User27: When will kubuntu get final release of kde 4.10 ?
User5: User27 I'm running it already.
User5: User27 You need the PPA.
User5: ovidiu-florin: Cool, it's also faster.
User21: 12.10 should have it in the backports
User27: User5 ok... im on rc3 right now...
User5: I've got 4.10.00 here.
User27: User21 i don't see where to enable back ports
User27: just got that off google
User27: whats the difference in apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade ?
User24: User27 Dist-upgrade is more agressive, it will install kernel-updates, for example, apt-get upgrade will not.
User28: I thought the 'dist' part means distribution upgrade, from 12.10 to 13.04 for example
User24: User28 Nope, apt-get will not do so. It is easy to understand the confusement though.
User21: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
User5: I really hate the slow window resizing animation.
User21: OerHeks, not any more, the command to upgrade a release is : sudo do-release-upgrade
User27: User24 is there away to block stuff from being upgraded.. yesterday i used the sourse.list generator.. and X Updates Xorg Edgers and got the ati fglrx beta of catalyst  and want to block that
User21: OerHeks, to upgrade to a new release , rather
User24: User27 You can pin package versions, however I do not know how to do so with apt-get.
User27: ok
User27: is there a gui to disable processes kstsgaurd shows a 155 running
User29: quick question: how long till 4.10 is available in backports?
User21: raymears, it should be there now
User21: for 12.10
User29: there is no mesage regarding this on kubuntu.org...
User21: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
User29: ok. let's just hope it won't break my system :)
User7: User21 I've 4.10 in 12.04, don't remember what repo I activated though (kdebackport something)
User21: markit, the url above gives options for 12.04 to add to your sources.list
User7: ok, that's what I have then
User30: anyone on kde 4.10?
User7: btw, transparencies are really a bad thing for readability
User30: can anyone confirm this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314520
User7: we will end with a good looking DE that is almost unusable, lol
User31: KDE bug 314520 in notifications "Regression: Spacing in notification pop-up is wrong/bad" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
User30: ?
User30: it was ok in rc3
User21: or you do this to add the backports , it's somewhat easier , sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
User28: snele you can confirm this bug yourself, dont you ?
User30: User28 It is my bugreport :)
User30: everything was fine in rc3
User21: snele, yes , some are on 4.10 already ...13.04 here and it seems ok so far
User28: ah,, then you cannot :-D
User32: hey I want to devlop for KDE how do i start?
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User33: 4.10 is out! http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.10
User30: User21 Can you confirm this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314520
User31: KDE bug 314520 in notifications "Regression: Spacing in notification pop-up is wrong/bad" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
User34: hey so how do I actually use the menu options (like hsowing at top or in title bar) in 4.10??
User30: User34 system settings>application appereance>fine tuning tab
User34: User30 I don't see it
User21: snele, no i can not confirm that bug ...haven't seen it here
User30: User34 menubar style
User34: User30 not there
User30: in fine tuning tab
User34: User30 Iyeah
User34: User30 not there. I'm in 4.10, I just updated, I see the maximize window animationâ¦
User35: hi ppl... i got some gtk apps that dont show me thier menubars.... ive reinstalled my pc... n now i got this problem
User35: i dont know how to show the menubars
User30: User34 dont you look for this option: http://www.dodaj.rs/f/33/MW/214LISUL/snapshot3.png
User34: User30 that section is simply not there
User30: User34 try with new user. I created new user when I upgraded to kde 4.10 rc3. It is better to have new clean config files when you upgrade to newer kde :)
User34: User30 arg, I'm not going to lose all my config stuff, I have a lot of settings for different things. Any guess which config files I could try deleting?
User30: User34 i think it is part of kwin. so i gues ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc or systemsettingsrc :)
User34: thanks, will try
User30: User34 logout or reboot after deleting these config files :)
User34: k
User30: for kwinrc you can do alt+f2 and kwin --replace
User34: oh ok
User30: I mean after deleting kwinrc restart kwin with kwin --replace :)
User34: you mean instead of logging out?
User36: hey
User36: all my desktop icons,widgets etc have dissapered after i added an activity(by mistake)...how do i switch bak to my original dekstop?
User36: it has never happened to me before...thx for any help
User36: anyone?
User36: Peace-: well there is nothin in the activity bar
User36: Peace-: didnt help:/...all my settings r gone
User36: genii-around: ye that the extreme case...
User35: User30 im gonna look for this
User37: hello
User37: I need kde 4.10
User37: pls
User37: this is ontopic btw
User30: User35 for what? :)
User36: Peace-: i just renewed the settings by mv .kde
User35: User30 it look like i do not have this option
User35: :S
User30: User37 what version of kubuntu do you use?
User37: unity lol
User37: they sended me here
User35: User30 menu bar option... im on that... but it does not appears this option to me
User36: Peace-: thx for help anywai
User37: precise btw
User37: or 4.10 is not even stable
User37: yet
User30: User35 just create new user and see if you have that option with new user
User35: im installing that option...  or i think... im gonna prove in 5 mins
User37: kde seemed fine on my ubuntu, but interesting thing was the firefox and other gtk themes
User37: somethings wrong with them
User37: so I decided to get newest copy
User37: oH
User37: that's because I sawed it on slashdot
User37: also
User30: User37 it is stable :) i am using it on precise. 4.10 final
User37: great snele
User37: :>
User30: User37 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.10
User37: ppa is something I have been not caring about
User37: long time
User37: but it's there
User37: nice
User38: hi does anyone of you know where i could find an web server like apache?? or how it is called under kubuntu??
 * BluesKaj posts the url one more time , https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
User37: apache you can find on apache webpage
User37: probably
User21: tobias__, it's called apache , or apache2
User37: isn't there any market on kubuntu, should be also there
User21: BBL...
User38: BluesKaj could it be that it is preinstalled??
User24: User38 Still called Apache, to install it run: sudo apt-get install apache
User37: I should just install any showen version of kde
User37: or which particial packaged?
User39: hi, can any one direct me to a QtWebKit-2.3 package or ppa?
User30: User37 if you are using ubuntu you should install kubuntu-desktop and then in at login screen choose kde instad of unity
User35: User30 im going out to prove the opther account
User36: Peace-: ok i think what i did...i have switched to folder view
User24: ovidiu-florin: Perhpas this can assist you: http://www.nerdliness.com/article/2007/08/27/creating-simple-ubuntu-debian-packages
User30: User37 if you are on precise you will have kde 4.8.5 installed. then you can upgrade to kde 4.10 :)
User37: I added
User37: ppa
User37: doesn't it counts?
User30: User37 if you are on ubuntu you have to install kubuntu-desktop first
User37: no upgrading to I know
User37: :D
User37: i'm installing it now
User37: but I'm not upgrading to 12.10
User37: seems not stable yet
User30: User37 I am using kubuntu 12.04 with kde 4.10 and it rocks. no crashes yet :)
User36: Peace-: heheh ye
User37: have to wait 40 minutes now
User37: nice
User37: took every package
User37: :D
User24: ovidiu-florin: No problem, hope it helps. I have made packages with that guide, but that was only for config file, not sure if it works the same with binaries.
User36: Peace-: so i have moved back to my previous config, but my note widget is gone...
User35: User30
User35: it does not work in the new account
User30: User35 well I am out of ideas :(
User35: ppl who knows this????  i dont have this option http://www.dodaj.rs/f/33/MW/214LISUL/snapshot3.png
User35: n menubars from gtk are away on kde
User30: User35 do sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again. maybe you didn't upgrade all the packages
User35: User30 ok.... i think u just dont know
User35: User30 thanks for helping ;)
User30: User35 glad to (try to) help :) do notifications look wierd in kde 4.10 for you? http://www.dodaj.rs/f/2P/9W/VBg08YJ/snapshot1.png
User35: User30 not really :S
User37: download is so slow
User37: if it really is kde 4.10 maybe
User36: guys do u know the location where the contect for desktop sticky notes is held?
User40: Peace-: my problem with error about numerate usb resolve new usb cable :)
User41: hi
User41: how do I install the CPU driver?
User40: yea, but i tested 2 usb cables, so both suck... probably made in china
User24: User41 Do you mean the GPU driver?
User41: but it says it's over 70 â
User41: why
User41: 10%
User24: User41 Time to fix the cooling of your CPU, if it reaches that temp being idle.
User41: I see. thanks
User42: Hi, do you know a good emulator of windows (i'd like to run cortal consor's .exe on my laptop running on Kubuntu 12.10)
User41: the fan is loud
User41: (now)
User31: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
User24: User41 Perhaps the cooling paste between the cpu and the heatsink is worn out.
User43: ^^ or your computer is full of dust :)
User43: ovidiu-florin: no, but bash does p* will be expanded by bash before being passed to tee
User42: well i'll try again with wine but it didn't work the first time i tried
User43: ovidiu-florin: | not >, > is for files | is for commands and tee is a command
User43: ovidiu-florin: also #!/bin/bash needs to be at the start of the file, not the end.
User44: okay, who knows when this is going to be available? http://kde.org/announcements/4.10/plasma.php
User45: now
User44: apt-get upgrade no show kde/plasma anything
User44: n
User45: cornfeedhobo, see the /topic ?
User46: has anyone upgraded to kde 4.10 yet?
User44: ooo, but then i have to trust backports
User44: hmmm
User46: i'll just ask: whenever i try to upgrade kde to 4.10 (at 4.9.4 right now) I get a message tellin me "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
User46: kdepasswd : Depends: kde-baseapps-data (= 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1) but 4:4.9.4-0ubuntu0.1 is to be installed" is this cuz I have conflicting repositories? I was hoping to just add the backports and not have to comment out any repositories in the process
User21: john___, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
User46: can't I just sudo add-apt-repository pa:kubuntu-ppa/backports ?
User47: User46  Then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
User21: john___, make sure all your repos are correct for your kubuntu version
User21: john___, yes that command is fine
User46: thats where I'm at...upgrade sees a dependency conflict for some reason @_@ i broke something T_T
User21: do you have repos from from older kubuntu versions?
User47: User46  Perhaps you should do a dist-upgrade before adding the backports PPA?
User46: ya--thats what I was thinking
User46: my prob is I don't know which repos to get rid of
User46: well not get rid of...just comment out for now
User21: john___, repos that don't show the same name as your install version
User34: so, in 4.10 I lost my folder view for my desktop, how do I get it back?
User46: thats it? thanks blues
User46: <wolfstune>other than the lost folder view, how you liking 4.10 so far? I'm in the process of upgrading XD
User34: User46 I'm pretty happy
User34: User46 but the developer of my KXStudio distro (not exactly Kubuntu, but Ubuntu + KDE, but for audio) says he is having crazy troubles
User35: does someone know how to show the menubar on some gtk applicactions running kde?
User46: User34 that can't be good, I'm sure he'll figure it out though
User34: User46 yeah, but he's not happy
User34: User46 apparently he has crazy dysfunction
User48: I'm back, how exactly happens upgrading kde when 4.8 version installed
User48: like an update by itself or synaptic?
User48: I mean 4.10 update
User21: scherenhaenden, which app ?
User35: rawtherapee
User35: it used to work... but ive reinstall my system
User35: i dont know what package do i gotta install to make it wokrs.....
User46: Ronalds, just add the backports, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; make sure to comment out any conflicting repos
User35: User21 for anything... the option in system options appeareance... menubar in applicaation is gone
User34: User35 I strongly prefer Darktable
User34: User35 although I never really used Rawtherapee
User34: User35 and note, Darktable is way out of date in Kubuntu and needs a PPA to be good
User35: User34  dude, dunno wot u meaning
User35: :s
User21: scherenhaenden, there's no dropdown in fine tuning>menubar style?
User35: nop
User21: what do have there
User34: User35 you don't know about PPA's ?
User35: User34 dunno why.... maybe i dont have a needed package
User35: User34 personal package archive?
User35: User21 i got the normal opntions over... but not this one
User34: User35 right
User35: User21  i donot have this one...http://www.dodaj.rs/f/33/MW/214LISUL/snapshot3.png
User34: User35 I was just saying I recommend Darktable (via PPA) instead of Rawtherapee
User35: User34 so what do u speaking about? sorry i didnt get it
User21: scherenhaenden, the url doesn't open here
User35: try again
User35: http://www.dodaj.rs/f/33/MW/214LISUL/snapshot3.png
User35: theres circled that one option i dont have
User21: scherenhaenden, have you updated / upgraded lately or even dist-upgraded?
User35: yep
User35: everytime
User35: i got this since ive reinstalled the machine
User21: everytime ? ..hmm I don't depend on the notifier , I just do it everyday as a matter of course
User35: well im up to day
User35: it is something else
User21: scherenhaenden, that has me stumped, never seen that before
User35: well i got to go today is my birthday n s party at homw
User35: so
User35: thanks fellas
User35: we see us
User20: User35 Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
User34: fixed folder-view, just needed to install the widget again for some reason
User34: I don't know if this is the right way to do it, but I got the new appmenu settings by just installing appmenu-qt
User34: that's why it was missing, not because of any config
User34: is there a keyboard command to engage the new appmenu feature?
User34: I'm not going to use this if I have to do it with the cursor
User21: wolftune, fwiw , I have appmenu-qt installed by default , never needed to install it manually
User34: User21 well, no big deal
User34: User21 not sure why it wasn't installed
User49: I just did a upgrade of plasma desktop, now my system tray doesn't appear from a restart. Not sure how to repeair.
User34: User21 so do you know, a keyboard shortcut for the appmenu?
User49: I also installed kde-full
User21: strange happenings with kde upgrades lately
User49: I'm not actually sure how to log out? But couldn't I log out, and make sure the correct user profile is set. Maybe something got a bit messed up?
User49: I'll even settle for using classical ubuntu for the time being.
User21: no idea wolftune , I'm not even sure it can be done
User34: User21 that's too bad, because the normal menu I just click alt and then whatever menu item letter. I thought that would still work, but nope
User21: Layke, install kubuntu-deskop ?
User21: err desktop
User49: Um, yup. No use. I just logged out, then made sure my user session was using plasma desktop, but it doesn't load the system tray when I log in
User49: I just upgraded to 4.10 and I can't get system tray to start. I think it's a plasma-desktop issue, but I have no idea. This is a dump of what I get if I run plasma-desktop from console.  http://pastie.org/private/7ntrslaazeimg4qyxu5ovq
User50: i need to start and login kubuntu without monitor attached
User24: User50 Setup an autologin, or if you don't need a DM use ssh.
User50: DM shh? sorry i dont know what you mean
User50: without monitor linux is hanging
User24: User50 I'm sorry, DM means Display Manager, in 12.04 it was kdm, after 12.04 it became lightdm. This takes care of the login. Ssh stands for Secure Shell, this is a way you can remotely access the terminal as if you where physically infront of the tty.
User50: so, let me understand.. If i start the OS now, it hangs because it had no monitor attached.. If i attach a monitor I see that it hangs.. If i reboot, with monitor the OS starts ok
User50: I want to use the computer with remote desktop
User50: but how can i make the os login without monitor
User24: User50 Where does it hang? It shouldn't...
User50: on the kubuntu letters
User50: it commen problem.. i see alot of forums where they say that linux hangs because X wont start without monitor
User26: Layke, did you restart your Xsession or reboot your computer after your upgrade, i had a number of problems when i did that also.
User43: User50 if you want it to be headless, then you can not run a gui on it and then use vncserver to start xsessions when you connect to it.
User4: Peace-: quoting from the backlogs : <Peace-> User36 pkill plasma-desktop ; plasma-desktop
User4: Peace-: it's better to use kquitapp plasma-desktop :)
User4: same goes for any other KDE application
User9: good night everyone
User51: hi all
User52: Hi all. Does anyone know how I use 4.10's kio-mtp to access my nexus 4 through Dolphin?
User52: I've tried just typing mtp, mtp:, and mtp:// into the location bar, but I'm told it's an invalid protocol.
User51: In 12.04 with kde 4.10 does anyone knows about problems with nepomuk?
User24: !patience
User31: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait.
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