User1: User2 nope.
User2: User1 damn
 * DrDaemonEye drops a pin and listens to it hit the floor
User1: ting
User3: <3 ting
User1: did they derive their name from the only pin drop fiber optic ad campaign of the 80s?
User3: Probably.
User2: never heard of ting the fiber campaign from the 80's, or the ting company that's apparently a wireless provider
User2: don't think so
User2: I'm not old like jrwren though
User3: Might have been before his time
User2: I'm still a spring chicken at 31
User3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cih-B324A0A
User2: ok, the one cmaloney posted almost made me ill, either it was jittercam, or v-sync was f'ed
User3: vsync was f-ed up
User1: you see cscheib there wasn't always fiber all over the world. Someone had to put it there. That someone was telcos, mostly in the 80s. :]
User2: I do remember the Sprint pin drop commercials now, just don't ever recall hearing anything like "so good you can hear a pin drop"
User3: I think that was the first one
User3: Had that "Apple" vibe to it
User3: iirc
User2: but, I was young, so probably just took the pin for granted
User3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnlqrMWVYCs
User2: I remember the Little Caesars commercial with the caesar dude dancing and saying pizza pizza
User2: *commercials
User2: cmaloney, that one is probably a bit out of my remembrance range
User2: I don't recall hearing them call themselves US Sprint, ever
User3: I just remember they weren't AT&T
User3: Or as we termed them: Ma Bell
User2: I remember changing area codes to 810 from 313
User3: Yep
User3: 666?
User3: I feel bad for the company that worked so hard to get 1-234-567-8 schlemiel schlimazel Hasenpfeffer Incorporated!
User3: ony to have the area code change. ;)
User1: 313 -> 810 -> 248 so much change. then moved back to 810 and it changed to 586
User2: never lived in 248
User3: I've had all of those area codes
User2: actually, I lied, I lived in Madison Heights and Ferndale... I guess I never lived in 248 when I needed to care what area code I was in
User3: Apparently the file-syncing code for Ubuntu One is being released
User3: (the server-side stuff)
User1: AGPL with contrib lic agreement just means you get to fork it ;]
User3: heh
User4: man greg-g
User4: you were already flaming us without even reading to the END!
User4: User2 I'll call you back in a minute, I'm in a meeting
User4: shrug
User4: we're one of the only OSS companies even using the AGPL
User4: the worst license in the universe that we know actively prevents people from participating
User4: because we love copyleft. :D
User4: plenty of OSS projects use CLAs
User4: you can't contribute to openstack, or kubernetes, or docker without a CLA either.
User2: User4 figured.  I'm free until 330
User4: I don't expect people to really use the server side code anyway
User4: syncthing and/or owncloud would be a better use of people's time
User3: Yeah, I'm thinking this is just clearing the decks more than useful code
 * greg-g nods
User3: Also an object lesson for not building your infrastructure on CouchDB. ;)
User1: MIT+CLA is exactly the same. Mono uses it.
User1: All apache projects, same thing. CLA.
User1: what is wrong with couchdb?
User1: greg-g: everything was the rage for a minute.
User3: Honestly I don't think CLAs are overlty a bad thing. Just depends on what you're signing away
User3: CouchDB was MongoDB without the speed
User3: and without the scaling
User1: greg-g: mongo, then backlash, couch, then backlash, redis, riak, rethink... I don't get it.
User1: why not speed or scaling?
User3: Not (both had horrible reliability)
User3: Note:
User3: At the time CouchDB was slower
User3: Not sure if it kept up
User3: MongoDB was essentially data by prayer
User3: Throw it at the disk and pray it made it there.
User3: It's a Faith-based datastore. ;)
User1: same as sqlite and mysql then?
User1: same as oracle, db2 or sqlserver. its just you buy your faith in those cases.
User3: I have faith in fsync.
User1: me too, faith that it makes things slow.
User3: I have faith in ACID
User3: I also have faith in anything that doesn't require a complete rebuild of the database when one of the nodes loses its shit.
User3: Note: This also means I don't have a whole lot of faith in MySQL. ;)
User1: sqlite running on tmpfs is ACID
User1: I'm faithless.
User3: sqlite3 is definitely ACID. It's not the DBs fault you dropped it on non-durable storage. :)
User3: you can ln -s /var/lib/mysql /tmp/mysql as well
User4: greg-g: User3 yeah it's clearly just an over the wall code dump
User4: people wanted the code and we ended up promising it anyway
User4: personally, the world would be a better place if it was systematically nuked from orbit, but shrug
User2: User4 will call back in a sec - stupid phone isn't ringing properly or something
User4: I am waiting for my new phone to get here too
User5: Ubuntu phone?
User4: moto g
User5: You need a director of dogfooding at Canonical
User2: does Shuttleworth even use one?
User4: everyone who is not in the US dogfoods
User4: Mark has two phones, his iphone and an ubuntu phone
User4: the meizu doesn't have the right radios for US
User4: so I can technically run one but it'll be like 2G or something
User4: I really wish we had one for the US because android makes me cry
User1: everyone who is not in the US is also like at least 80% of the company
User4: but the moto g is like $220 so I can wait the year or however long it takes
User3: Android is quite good from where I'm sitting
User4: I'm kind of tired of being a beta tester
User4: My Nexus5 went from being the best phone I owned, to being worthless in Lollipop
User4: lg won't fix it because it's too old
User4: and google won't fix it because I'm supposed to buy a nexus6 instead of getting a working product
User2: heh
User5: It worked for a while!
User4: and now apparently it's impossible to get a phone that isn't the size of an xbox
User2: the fact that iphone has a solid upgrade lifecycle is pretty nice
User2: even though I'm generally at N or N-1
User4: so now every phone is like a 7 inch tablet
User2: the hueg phone thing is irritating
User4: so like why buy a flagship device when it's going to be a POS soon anyway, might as well just get the cheaper ones
User5: Thank HD pr0n for that
User4: rick loves his motos though, so I figured it's worth giving them a shot
User1: 4" iphone7 in 1mo plz.
User5: User1 You think so?
User1: User5 I'm begging
User5: That might get even me to consider it
User2: User1 I think that would be in their benefit, even if they didn't refresh it with every "S" release
User1: User2 I agree
User2: they've got us locked into the ecosystem anyway
User2: wonder what the 6 to 6+ sales ratio nis
User2: *is
User3: Big news everyone: Larry Page still uses G+
User3: Oh, and they started some umbrella company called Alphabet.
User3: abc.xyz
User1: we talk so much about the worlds largest advertising company.
ubuntu-us-mi
Ubuntu IRC