User1: hmm, anyone to test a bug?
User1: ignore that, my fault really
User2: User4 are people that really frigging stupid :( see bug 24728 for more info
User3: Malone bug 24728 in firefox "Firefox crash  [NO NEW CRASH REPORTS] " [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/24728
User4: bug 71131
User3: Malone bug 71131 in mozilla-thunderbird "Thunderbird crashes if you change Gnome theme while it is running" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71131
User4: interesting
User4: probably no totem in there ;)
* asac lunch
* asac lunch for real :)
User2: maybe they had a tab open in firefox playing a video. since ff and tb use same (gtk) maybe both crashed?
* gnomefreak still sleeping so that might not make much sense
User2: User4 is it safe to reject bug 97429
User3: Malone bug 97429 in firefox "Login hangs for Kodak Firefox plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97429
User4: hmm
User4: can we reproduce?
User4: or get that plugin from somewhere?
User2: i dont know. i guess ill try
User2: he gives link in bug.
User2: but not sure if somehting in 2.0 changed or the extenstion was updated wrong
* gnomefreak has easyshare cam but never used the easyshare site
User2: i was able to log in fine
User2: oh damn nvm im on feisty
User2: checking edgy
User2: feistys log in was much faster
User2: ill be back when i get back ill see it
User2: ok im gonna assign this bug to me for a bit i want to test a few things.
User2: building a chroot for a fully updated edgy so i dont lose the retrace chroot packages
User2: User4 im merging the bzr branch now. if there is updates can i just build it or do i need to remove the trunk build first?
User2: nvm it looks like merge applies the new stuff
User4: merge?
User4: ah
User4: i think so
User4: it has changed
User4: i removed the tarball
User4: you can rebuild tarball before building:
User4: ./debian/rules neworig
User4: this will checkout cvs
User4: it uses date that is encoded in changelog version
User4: so if you want something newer, add a changelog version and adapt state
User4: adapt date
User4: :)
User2: All changes applied successfully.
User2: does that mean it was applied to mine or to the trunk source on branch?
User2: ah ok merging updated changelog to todays date with "update upstream cvs" so i just rebuild and it should overwrite the one now.
User4: ?
User4: what revision do you have in
User4: # bzr info
User4: Branch history:
User4: 6 revisions
User4: 6 days old
User4: first revision: Wed 2007-03-21 18:21:15 +0100
User4: latest revision: Wed 2007-03-28 12:14:56 +0200
User4: Revision store:
User4: 6 revisions
User4: 33562 KiB
User4: 1: is the tarball gone (should be!) ?
User4: did you run
User4: ./debian/rules neworig
User4: to produce a new tarball?
User4: did it work?
User2: the tar never changed dates
User4: the tarball was removed
User4: it should be gone
User2: not yet its seems bzr and apt-get update seem to be killing badnwidth
User4: i think bzr updated properly
User2: firefox-2.99+1-3.0a.20070201.tar.bz2.cdbs-config_list
User4: e.g. its finished
User4: thats not the tarball :)
User2: was left so maybe the tar was gone
User4: yeah
User4: nur run ./debian/rules neworig
User4: now
User4: that should take a while
User4: if its done you should be able to build as usualy
User4: what version did you choose in changelog?
User2: that builds new tar than i need to build it than install it?
User2: i didnt choose one but i saw the latest one it was todays update
User4: yes
User4: right
User4: you can keep it
User4: you don't need to update changelog then
User4: neworig will automatically bring you the tarball of today
User2: k
User2: i will do it as soon as i get chroot set up
User4: though state of today has some caret regressions ... so not usable when editing wikis :)
User2: cant use trunk to edit wikis?
User2: thats a hell of a regression (what did it lose)
User4: did not loose anything
User4: just rewrite ongoing
User4: should be shaken out in a few days or so
User4: you can edit wikis :)
User4: just give it a try
User4: its just a bit cumbersome :)
User2: ok i will
User4: trunk has huge changes of layout/gecko engines ongoing ... so this is expected
User2: ah ok
User4: maybe I should use the "minefield" branding :) ... at least if you build from bzr ;)
User4: so people know "this is bleeding edge ... this is dangerous" :)
User4: User5 maybe we should make it ieven easier for users to retrace themselves?
User4: apport-unpack /var/crash/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash
User4: some/tmp_dir/
User4: e.g. by
User4: making a script out of this :)
User2: do we want users to retrace thier own crashes?
User4: if they fail or don't want to attach core dump yes
User2: that will add alot of crap to thier system
User4: apport-unpack /var/crash/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.$(id -u).crash :)
User4: na
User4: just with firefox-dbg
User2: ok yeah if it is choice thats fine. but im trying to get backtraces from them
User4: and then gdb
User4: _usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.
User4: https://launchpad.net/bugs/96967
User3: Malone bug 96967 in firefox "Firefox Crash" [Undecided,Needs info]
User4: look at hjmf description
User4: something like that
User4: but make it more failsafe:
User4: tempdir=$(mktemp -d)
User4: apport-unpack /var/crash/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.$(id -u).crash $tempdir
User4: gdb -nx gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -core $tempdir/CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log
User4: rm -rf $tempdir
User4: thats it
User4: ups
User4: of course no doulbe gdb :)
* gnomefreak not very bright at all :(
User4: why bright?
User2: i used rm -rf :(
User2: there is a problem with nvidia geforce4 and feisty and i wasnt paying attention while cleaning out ~/ and deleted the trunk folder along with 3 others including ~/.gnupg i forgot to add the ~ to it :(
User2: im trying to get trunk back with bzr and it hangs
User4: damn so your home is wiped again?
User2: only 3or 4 files
User2: i got them back from USB stick except the bzr branch and bzr is hangging so i might try again later
User2: the little \ isnt spinning
* gnomefreak has to figure out the nvidia issue fix too
User2: User5 can you add that process to the responces wiki?
User2: brb gonna try reboot
User5: User2 ok I'll do. Write on wiki responses the gdb stuff
User2: ty one of these days i will go through it a clean that wiki up alot of stuff should be in one single response not 10
User5: :)
User4: crash reporting deserves its own page
User4: User2 if you do that, please make the formats of the answers more structured
User2: i planned on it
User4: currently its one long line without paragraphs etc.
User4: urls should get their own indented line etc.
User4: i guess you know what i mean :)
User2: User4 Applying patch no-have-stdint-h-ftbfs.patch
User2: can't find file to patch at input line 9
User2: Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
User2: The text leading up to this was:
User2: when trying to build after bzr clone
User2: |--- mozilla.orig/configure.in  2007-01-31 17:12:09.000000000 +0100
User2: |+++ mozilla/configure.in       2007-03-22 02:21:42.000000000 +0100
User2: maybe the cause?
User4: hmm
User4: does it fail or just complain?
User4: oh
User4: you really have a tarball now?
User2: fails
User4: please show ls
User2: no tarball
User4: in directory
User4: then it can't work
User2: gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/firefox-trunk-gnomefreak$ ls
User2: build-tree  debian
User4: you have to produce it first
User4: yeah
User4: produce it as i said
User4: ./debian/rules neworig
User2: run rules
User4: mui importante: neworig
User2: in the debian dir?
User4: neworig is not run during normal build
User4: no
User4: just that line
User4: when you are in top dir
User2: it failed in the source dir
User2: gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/firefox-trunk-gnomefreak$ ./debian/rules neworig
User2: patches/no-have-stdint-h-ftbfs.patch: No such file or directory
User2: with more lines after that
User4: thats ok
User4: it should do cvs then
User2: set -e; sh -c "cvs -d:pserver:ochoatheodore@example.net:/cvsroot co mozilla/client.mk; cd mozilla && make -f client.mk checkout MOZ_CO_DATE=20070328 MOZ_CO_PROJECT=browser"
User4: yeah
User2: sh: cvs: not found
User4: thats right
User2: cd: 1: can't cd to mozilla
User4: :)
User2: make: *** [mozilla]  Error 2
User4: User2 guess!
User2: thats good?
User4: what is missing?
User2: its missing cvs
User5: done: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Triage/Responses#head-8405d4794c0643fabf667f91a3fcd14baa76ca7c
User4: exactly ... so install it :)
User4: User5 some minor typo:
User4: Install the debuggin symbols for firefox:
User4: apt-get install firefox-db
User4: Run gdb against the coredump file included in the crash report that was generated when firefox crashed. You'll need to unpack the crash report and call gdb in this way:
User4: s/firefox-db/firefox-dbg/
User5: oops :)
User4: and maybe add more -dbg packages from the original crash page
User4: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/#head-c576e78d92cb3c959c271158b6ace98be835de83
User4: dunno if that is needed
User4: maybe on the first run we ask just to install the firefox-dbg packages
User4: if backtrace is not good enough ask to install all
User5: I wrote If you feel brave, look at the gdb output and search for missing dbg libraries or other warnings, install them and run again gdb.
User5: Maybe is not too clear :)
User4: yeah :)
User4: if you have some spare bandwidth consider to install libgtk2.0-0-dbg, ... as well
User4: better?
User4: so firefox-dbg is mandatory while the others are nice to have :)
User4: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs <- that page should definitly be revised as well :)
User4: e.g. the Debug section
User5: I'll review asao
User5: asap
* gnomefreak sat here trying to figure out asao even after you fixed it :( today is just not my day
User5: lol :)
User4: :)
User2: ok got chroot installing things got cvs running and i will be back later have to go out
User4: k
User4: ok ... now i have to do some debian work :) ... just a few minutes ;)
User4: anyone knows if pdf documents are opened within firefox for some setup?
User4: e.g. does evince provide a plugin?
User4: sorry, that I am such a text-only bug :) ... can't remember when I last tried to open a pdf from web without downloading first :)
User4: hmmm mozplugger does it
User4: that is plain awesome
User4: install mozplugger
User4: don't install totem-mozilla, but only totem-xine
User4: --> things will work :)
User4: that gives some great new ideas :)
* hjmf is in and out
User5: tested mozplugger; not sure what it does, but now i can view http://www.apple.com/itunes/ads with totem plugin
User4: how?
User4: totem-xine
User4: if you have mozplugger you don't even need
User4: totem-mozilla :)
User4: and restyle crash will be gone
User4: its funny
User4: try it
User5: ok
User4: the whole totem standard window gets pushed into that embed window :)
User5: in my case seems that is mplayer what plays the video
User4: uninstall all mozilla plugins :)
User4: e.g. remove mozilla-mplayer
User4: User5 i guess you attached the wrong threadstacktrace for bug 97478 right?
User3: Malone bug 97478 in firefox "[feisty]  Firefox Crashed [@IA__g_signal_emit_valist] " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97478
User4: Bug 60147
User3: Malone bug 60147 in firefox "saved firefox resumes as if crashed" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/60147
User4: -> dup of crash on instant x shutdown
User5: looking
User5: that stacktrace was curious but is the one on that crash, because I post them from a script, so no chances for a mistake. I'll review anyway
User4: hmmm maybe unexpected content in result confused your script :)
User4: anyway, more important: bug 97257
User3: Malone bug 97257 in firefox "Upgrade to Firefox 91.69.162.6 causes xine plugin to crash Firefox" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97257
User4: do we see that: "whenever playing video it crashes" ?
User5: wmv files are always problematic
User4: what problematic?
User4: do they crash?
User4: its really important as user says that it doesn't crash with 91.69.162.6
User4: which would be a no go regression
User2: User4 can you trust the user to have done the same thing with 91.69.162.6 and .3 as in lets say theme crash did they change themes with 91.69.162.6?
User4: no
User4: but this sounds really to be different
User4: because user says: crashes always
User4: just want to verify that someone can use totem-xine
User2: edgy?
User5: ... Im trying to test with xine-plugin
User4: e.g. for our apple ads
User4: no
User4: on feisty
User4: xine-plugin?
User2: feisty on the apple ads?
User4: its totem-mozilla with totem-xine
User4: for instance
User5: however its named
User5: :)
User4: if that works i would feel better
User2: thats what i use
User4: User2 e.g. not theme crash
User4: so 91.69.162.6 works? on apple site?
User4: good
User4: with totem-xine?
User2: i have no problem view the videos
User4: ok
User2: as long as i dont change themes
User2: will check again in a few
User4: good ... and you are running latest?
User4: was there a totem update in the last days?
User2: yes fully updated as of 9am this morning
User2: its 3:15pm atm
User2: ok lets prey this builds now
User4: User2 can you play videos in chroot?
User2: i should be able to.
User4: hmm doesn't work for me
User4: now i mounted /dev as well
User2: still cant build it
User5: Message: totemPlugin ctor [0x85846f8]
User5: ** Message: Init mimetype 'video/quicktime' mode 1
User5: ** Message: Base URI is 'http://www.apple.com/itunes/'
User5: ** Message: Failed to open DBUS session: Failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session
User4: User2 what happens?
User4: has neworig finished?
User2: alot of crap worth of output let me see if i have depends
User2: yes
User4: ok
User4: so you miss dependencies...ok
User4: that would be the lesser evil :)
User4: User5 where do you see that?
User4: User5 but no crash?
User5: playing apple ads on feisty s  chroot
User4: ah ok
User5: no crash, but no video
User4: yeah
User4: have mounted /proc and /dev ?
User5: no
User4: i think you need both
User4: in chroot
User5: noticed
User2: User5 refresh page
User4: User5 like this
User4: /proc /srv/chroots/feisty2/proc none bind 0 0
User5: is what asac said yesterday about dbus and totem :)
User4: /dev /srv/chroots/feisty2/dev none bind 0 0
User4: ah :) ... yeah ... at least the symptom is the same ... if dbus does fail it doesn't play movie
User5: :)
User4: however i don't see such a message in case totem does not play
User5: noticed my fstab I had commented out the proc entries
User4: ah
User4: ok
User4: i have mounted both
User4: but still it doesn't play
User5: I guess I did that for some reason I dont remember
User2: User4 http://pastebin.ca/413896
User2: User4 while your reading ill be right back need smoke
User4: actually my feisty chroot is a bit wierd ... everywhere i can just schroot -cmychrootX -p
User4: and then DISPLAY is set properly
User4: in feisty i have to export DISPLAY=localhost:xxx
User4: just in chroot
User4: yes
User4: User2
User4: you have to use a different command :)
User4: there is now bzr cruft in your sourcetree
User4: which you don't want in diff.gz
User4: thus:
User4: use one more option for building:
User4: -i.bzr/
User4: e.g. dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -i.bzr/
User4: so the .bzr dir is not recognized during build
User4: sorry i forgot to say that last time :)
User2: its all good its running lets see how far it gets
User2: so from now on the -i.bzr is needed in all cases?
User5: got rid of the proc error, but cant view those ads because:
User5: ** (totem-plugin-viewer:24847): WARNING **: Mimetype 'video/quicktime' doesn't have a handler
User5: don't know how to handle video/x-h264
User5: ** Message: totem_embedded_set_error: 'An error occurred', 'The playback of this movie requires the following decoders which are not installed:
User5: MPEG-4 AAC decoder
User5: :/
User2: User5 libxine-extracodecs?
User2: comes in handy for those non free formats :)
User5: trying
User4: i still get ** (totem-plugin-viewer:9664): WARNING **: Error in bacon_video_widget_play: There is no plugin to handle this movie
User4: in schroot
User4: with totem-xine
User4: while it works well on main desktop
User2: i get that too sometimes
User4: sometimes?
User2: give me some time and ill try it. refreshing page sometimes help
User2: i was getting that on main install not so much chroot
User4: do you get that just in chroot?
User4: or everywhere?
User4: what happens if you get that?
User4: just black screen
User2: everywhere i beileve but give me a few and ill find out
User4: but totem controls are visible?
User4: thank you
User2: make that alot of time
User2: i dont have feisty set up for it yet in chroot. i was getting those warnings in gdb>
User2: thats why it failed to crash maybe
User4: hmm please try in main install
User4: if you can visit video sites well :)
User4: just to be double sure
User2: k
User5: ok totem fails to play because doesn't know how to play codec h264
User2: whats the apple site?
User5: but installing mozplugger calls (i guess ) ffmpeg which knows how to do it
* gnomefreak also installs ubuntu-desktop in chroot so i have everything the user would
User2: mine might be using vlc
User4: i have as well
User4: did that once because i thought it might be related
User2: i might have to figure out how to set totem as default
User4: totem usually wins
User4: haven't found another plugin that wins mplayer comes second ... same vlc
User5: yes, here totem-mozilla when is always the default player whichever other plugin is installed
User5: d/when/
User2: ** Message: Launching: /usr/lib/totem/totem-plugin-viewer --plugin-type narrowspace --user-agent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:91.69.162.6) Gecko/20061201 Firefox/91.69.162.6 (Ubuntu-feisty) --mimetype video/quicktime --no-controls
User4: yeah thats standard message afaik
User2: ** (totem-plugin-viewer:31114): WARNING **: Error in bacon_video_widget_play: There is no plugin to handle this movie.
User4: yes ... and does it work?
User2: this is on main system
User2: it shows it to start with and when you hit reply it goes black
User2: ** Message: Viewer state: STOPPED
User2: ** Message: totem_embedded_set_error: 'An error occurred', 'The movie could not be read.'
User2: ** Message: NewStream mimetype 'video/quicktime' URL 'http://images.apple.com/itunes/home/images/2007/01/appletv_intro_20070109.mov'
User2: seeing as we have no real quicktime packages you are gonna get that i would think
User5: ... that's what I said :)
User5: doesn't know how to play codec h264
User5: apple format
User4: wait a sec
User4: bbim
User2: i dont get that error hjmf
User2: nothing about codec h264
User5: --> video/x-h264
User5: At least here
User5: with the package you told me :)
User2: now i see the people
User2: click to watch new ad
User2: so i did
User5: I had some experience with that and my ipod, I had to recompile myself ffmpeg
User5: with aac support and others
User2: http://www.apple.com/itunes/ads/partycolor/
* gnomefreak leaning towards totem issue not firefox issue
User5: I can view the adds with totem if I select my compiled ffmpeg stuff, but I cant with the default one
User2: libquicktime0 :)
User2: libxine1-ffmpeg
User2: we have a few quicktime things to use atleast try
User5: I have them installed
User2: libxine1-plugins quicktime-utils quicktime-x11utils
User5: libxine1-ffmpeg                  1.1.4-2ubuntu3
User5: same error MPEG-4 AAC decoder
User5: H.264 decoder
User5: nevermind I can use my ffmpeg or just mozplugger
User5: :)
User5: as I use my ffmpeg to transcode movies for my ipod </offtopic> :)
* hjmf have to go as spain is going to play football at 22:00
User5: see you
User2: socor?
User5: yes
User2: soccer?
User5: yes
User5: an important match to classify to the euro-cup
User5: not a big opponent but spain is in a semi-crisis of results :)
User5: bye
User5: I didn't want to close
User2: that was fast game
User5: lol
User2: have fun
* hjmf is away for 90'
User5: thank you
User2: still cant seem to play it :(
User4: ok sorry
User4: phone call
User4: was here
User4: User2 so you can't play at all?
User4: User5 soccer?
User2: nope not looking that way i just installed mozplugger lets see
User4: with mozplugger it works
User4: you have to uninstall totem-mozilla
User4: then
User4: and keep totem-xine installed
User2: i have both
User2: User4 check so do you im sure
User2: apt-cache policy totem-mozilla than totem-xine
User4: if you have totem-mozilla mozplugger will not kick-in
User4: but you don't have to test that
User2: ah
User4: i just want to know: does video work?
User4: in feisty
User4: thats my only concern now :)
User4: default video
User2: its lack of quicktime codecs
User4: aka totem-mozilla
User4: na .. why? it works flawless here on edgy
User4: thats what I fail to understand :(
User2: well than why would it fail on edgy with a codecs failure
User2: firefox hold no code for codecs afaik
User2: s/hold/holds
User2: firefox just calls player
User4: ?
User4: it does work on edgy
User4: it fails on feisty for you
User4: any other site with video?
User4: User2 try these
User4: http://digital-desert.com/mpg-videos/
User4: those are mpgs
User2: not tried yet but im betting its strictly quicktime. i dont do videos much so i dont have links laying around i will ask a few people for video links
User4: do those work?
User2: was i part of that split?
User4: yeah
User4: you have been away
User4: do those work?
User4: http://digital-desert.com/mpg-videos/
User4: ?
User2: only opening them in totem not the plugin
User4: so its completely broken
User2: right click and choose open in movie player
User4: that does not help a lot
User4: its completely unacceptable that embedded video is broken
User4: do you have epiphany?
User4: is it broken there too?
User2: i agree but is it fireefox or plugins
User4: package: epiphany-browser
User2: i dont think i have it atm
User2: nope not yet
User4: i hope its plugin ... otherwise i don't see what's going on
User4: firefox 91.69.162.6 was just tiny
User4: difference
User4: but i know: totem 2.18 has major rewrite of plugin layer
User2: its installing
User4: thanks
User2: than i blame plugin
User4: i know that totem developers test more on epiphany
User4: who knows
User4: why did it went unseen so long?
User2: mojor overwrite > tiny security fixes
User2: weve been testing in edgy chroots?
User2: 91.69.162.6 is only a day old in ubuntu?
User4: thats why i think maybe its still firefox problem
User4: yes if its a plugin problem then 91.69.162.6 should not matter
User2: it worked in 91.69.162.6 in feisty?
User4: i don't know!!! AND THAT IS REALLY BAD :)
User2: lol
User4: User2 can you please try i mplayer works?
User4: do you still have 91.69.162.6 in cache?
User2: no
User2: dont know how to do it in mplayer
User2: but let me test epiphany-browser first :)
User2: about 10 minutes ill be ready to test
User2: maybe download the movie and open it in mplayer?
User4: mplayer: install mozilla-mplayer
User4: + uninstall totem
User4: then it should work
User2: oh
User4: no
User4: it should work embedded
User4: for us it just matters if it works embedded
User2: ok ill try in a bit.
User2: see what bothers me is its calling the plugin to play it but plugin is failing (read teh output when ran from term.
User2: make that like 20mintues i stopped it to add -extentions package
User4: ok
User4: mplayer works fine
User4: thats good
User4: at least plugins are not completely broken
User4: but totem plugin is
User4: and thats really bad
User4: its default ... please verify that mplayer works anyway :)
User4: we have to be extra sure
User4: otherwise we hunt down the wrong track
User2: did you try trunk build?
User4: no why?
User4: its not that important
User2: if it doesnt work in trunk its a good chance its plugin issue
User4: hmm
User4: it definitly is
User2: it has to be plugin
User2: firefox has nothing to do with embedded video
User2: dirctly
User2: testing epiphany
User2: thats a bug :(
User4: why has firefox nothing to do with embedded video?
User4: firefox provides everything around the window of totem
User4: so both can contribute to failure
User4: so you don't have ffox 91.69.162.6 somewhere around?
User2: only in edgy chroot
User2: im gonna try to get it for feisty chroot when i get a chance to set it up right
User4: ok
User4: 2007-03-27  Published  feisty   Release  main  gnome  2.18.0-0ubuntu2
User4: so yesterday both were updated
User4: e.g. firefox + totem
User4: so it might be indeed a totem regression
User2: ah yes i think totem was
User4: however 2.18
User4: was already in archive before
User2: epiphany seems to be failing
User2: correct
User2: but a patch that was added could have caused this fault
User4: so it is likely due to ubuntu maintainers ... if its totem fault at all
User4: 80_from_svn_fix_codec_installation_when_subtitles_are_used.dpatch:
User4: - fix codec installation when subtitles are used (Ubuntu: #89302)
User4: ok
User2: epiphany home page is a kubuntu one :(
User4: i will try to disable that patch and see
User2: when was that patch added?
User4: yesterday
User4: thats the only change they did
User4: so if it still fails after removing then we are to blame
* gnomefreak betting its totem
User4: sad thing i cannot even say if it works or not
User4: it never worked for feisty for me
User4: but lets see
User4: now i have /dev mounted as well
User4: and mplayer works in chroot
User4: so probably it will
* gnomefreak only videos i do are for testing so i have no control sample :(
User4: does totem-gstreamer fail for you the same?
User2: never used it
User2: would need w32codecs most likely
User4: you reproduced crashes
User4: didn't you?
User4: so it worked at some point
User2: yeah
User4: you know when ?
User2: dont know it crashed
User2: theme changes you dont need it to really play just attempt to load
User2: the apple ads worked sort of
User2: unless they are that short to start with
User2: on wtf :(
User2: User4 if you get a minute open file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-%l.html in a browser in feisty and tell me what the page looks like. is it welcome to kubuntu
User2: s/on/oh
User4: what is %l ?
User2: dont know
User4: what do you have there?
User2: is there a less cryptic way we can do this? the running apport on local end that hjmf wrote up?
User2: welcome to kubuntu
User4: you have to replace %l with your language of choice
User2: it open english just fine but the kubuntu home page inside ubuntu-artwork or even on a gnome browser is kind of ass backwards
User4: User2 can you do me one last favor and see if totem-gstreamer doesn't work for you at all?
User2: ok what gstreamer packages do i need and do you want to test with w32codecs installed?
User4: you won't need to
User4: playing mpg would be good enough to begin with
User4: totem-gstreamer
User2: looking at restricted link
User4: instead of totem-xine
User2: The best support for MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 (for example, encoded with DivX, XviD or FFmpeg MPEG-4), QuickTime and other proprietary or non-free media formats is currently provided by Totem-xine, Kaffeine, gxine, and MPlayer.
User2: give me a few minutes i have gstreamer installing
User4: anyway
User4: cool
User2: it built :)
User2: its playing fine
User2: http://digital-desert.com/mpg-videos/p827v.mpg
User4: really?
User4: aha
User4: good
User4: and how about ... apple ads?
User4: guess you need w32codecs
User2: give me a while that package is huge
User2: 14M
User2: about 40minutes
User4: where is w32codecs?
User4: i cannot find :)
User2: wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
User2: i might have the deb on my site but i cant remember
User4: thx
User2: yw
User2: 6.5kbps :(
User4: ha :)
User4: not suitable for amd64
User4: as usual
User2: correct
User2: but wait
User2: i might have something for you
User2: Users of x86 or x86_64, systems may also install some  additional Windows codecs that are available in the third-party repository of [WWW]  Medibuntu.
User2: let me get the medibuntu link
User4: oh no :)
User2: see http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
User2: ok what apple vids did you want to test
User2: not looking like it will play it
User2: with w32codecs
User2: no it doesnt seem to play but i need gstreamer packages.
User4: ok its official
User4: totem-xine is broken
User4: upstream
User2: i get sound no video :(
User4: in what?
User4: gstreamer?
User2: on apple ads
User2: yeah
User4: ok fine
User4: can you still crash?
User4: :)
User4: theme switch
User4: ?
User2: i installed all needed gstreamer plugins too
User2: oh hell i dont know
User4: e.g. listen to speech
User2: i totally forgot the testcase on that but lets see what i can do
User4: switch  clip
User4: listen again
User4: then switch theme
User2: yay i got video :(
User2: no crash it seems
User2: i did it 2 times and no crash
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