User1: morning
User2: lut didrocks
User2: hey mvo
User1: lut seb128 :)
User3: User2 re #287243> it was not only xchat-gnome but also epiphany that would only appear after I restarted the panel - have you heard anything about this?
User3: or seen it before?
User2: User3 good morning
User3: User2 good morning :)
User2: User3 xchat-gnome seems to be the bug I listed, epiphany-browser could be a classic desktop installed before the binary race or similar
 * mvo nods
User3: ok
User3: the old "tryexec" thing?
User2: yes
User2: the desktop is in the arch all binary which is likely unpacked first because of the depends cycle no?
User3: yes, makes sense
User2: we should probably have the menu entries in the same binary package than the software
User2: not sure if that would be enough to avoid those races though
User2: anyway that's not a new issue and not something that we will likely change before intrepid now
User2: User3 btw do you know why the oosplash you reported some weeks ago has been closed as invalid?
User2: User3 I got it yesterday again while trying the current iso
User2: lut huats
User3: User2 hm, no idea. did I close it?
User3: User2 what is the bugnumber?
User2: User3 no, calc did
User4: hello seb128 and mvo :)
User3: User2 I think the xchat problem might be "desktop file is unpacked, inotify int the panel picks that up, panel looks for icon->none in the cache yet, postinst is run and icon is added to the cache"
User3: hey huats
User2: User3 not sure now, apport listed similar titles and the recent one was from you and had been closed by calc, he didn't add any comment saying why so I thought you maybe discussed it on irc or something
User4: User2 once again (I have the feeling to keep saying the same stuff for a few days), if you have some updates to do, just ask :)
User3: User2 no, haven't talked to him in ages
User2: User3 do you get the icon after a restart?
User3: User2 what is the issue exactly?
User3: User2 yes, panel restart cures it
User2: User4 http://download.gnome.org/sources/epiphany-extensions/2.24/epiphany-extensions-2.24.1.tar.gz
User2: User3 what issue?
User3: User2 the oosplash
User2: User3 ok, because the other bug mentionned that a restart was not enough
User4: User2 ok doing it
User2: User3 don't bother, I'll ask calc, just apport starting because oosplash crash
User3: User2 if its  "desktop file is unpacked, inotify int the panel picks that up, panel looks for icon->none in the cache yet, postinst is run and icon is added to the cache" we could experiment with delayed inotify pickup - e.g. if something was not found try again in 30sec or something
User2: User3 right, that's what we discussed previous cycle already I think ;-)
User3: yeah, in the tryexec case
User3: but now its useful for the icons as well :)
User2: User3 I'm pondering adding a trigger which touch /usr/share/applications* after install
 * mvo likes recycling old ideas
User2: User3 that's a workaround but is easy to do and should work correctly
User3: hmm, that is a big cannon :)
User3: I mean, changes a lot of timestamps
User2: User3 so touch whatever .desktop was in the installed binary?
User2: User3 or touch the directory if that's possible and makes sense
User3: User2 touch desktop in installed binaries is probably better, we could talk about it at uds
User4: User2  bug 287451
User5: Launchpad bug 287451 in epiphany-extensions "Please sponsor epiphany-extensions 2.24.1 into intrepid" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287451
User2: User4 ok
User4: no pb
User4: ready to do something else :)
User2: nothing else to do for the moment
User2: I'll let you know when they roll new tarballs and there is something to update ;-)
User4: sure
User4: :)
User1: User2 I translated my modification in nautilus-share in French. Not sure you are still heading this, but if you have some time to acknowledge them...
User1: (https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/nautilus-share/+pots/nautilus-share/fr/+translate?start=0&batch=10&show=untranslated&field.alternative_language=&field.alternative_language-empty-marker=1&old_show=all)
User2: User1 I didn't approve translations for a while, ping me back later today if nobody does, I'll let the translation team have a look first if they are active
User2: I don't want to hijack anybody work there
User1: yes, for sure, that's why I was wondering if you were still active. I will send an email to Bruno
User2: User1 I'm too busy on other things to be active on translations
User1: User2 I must confess I am not surprised ;)
User2: ;-)
User6: User2 did you get my mail with the bug number for the gstreamer syncs?
User2: User6 I didn't look at my mails but I noticed the launchpad bug, thanks!
User2: User6 I got the mail
User2: User6 I'll do the gst-plugins-good update
User6: User2 great, thanks :)
User2: thank you for the work on those rather ;-)
User7: hrm, is it just me or is g-s-d segfaulting atm?
User8: User7 you are probably just being too picky
User7: something is loading /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstlibvisual.so and segfaulting
User7: indeed gstreamer-properties will segfault
User7: User8 hey I'm not picky, but giant fonts and a horrible default gtk theme won't do! ;)
User8: User7 if you want to complain about the theme properly you need to use anal/fecal metaphors
User7: haha
User7: hmm why isn't apport picking these up
 * mpt wonders why the "Applications" > "Graphics" menu is no longer in alphabetical order
 * Ng boggles, how can gstreamer0.10-plugins-base be responsible for this, it hasn't changed for a couple of weeks
User7: aha, but libvisual was updated today
User9: User7 oh dear.  sigh.
User9: User7 does it happen if you install the old libvisual plugins?
User7: User9 lemmie check
User7: I was just confirming it with amarok, which also reports a segfault when I activate visualisations
User9: User7 if it doesn't, can you file a bug, mark it high, and nominate it for intrepid please?
User10: User15 I believe that you can change it if you use the menu editor.  User error :)
User11: bug 287405
User5: Launchpad bug 287405 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon does not work " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287405
User11: Ng, Hobbsee ^
User7: ah doh, yeah that's what I'm seeing
User7: but I don't think it's g-s-d specific, because other users of libvisual will segfault
User11: yeah, where should the bug move to?
User11: -plugins-base I guess
User11: have you let gdb lose on it yet?
User9: libvisual, if tha'ts what's caused the bug
User7: User9 yeah, downgrading to libvisual-0.4-plugins_0.4.0.dfsg.1-2_i386.deb fixes things
User7: User11 I tried the gdb hint that gst outputs, to no avail
User7: I'm no gdb master. If you are, I'd suggest you try that and I'll wrestle the bug in LP ;)
User10: Ah, I think I'm getting that same bug...
User11: I don't see it unfortunately
User7: huh
User11: ah, I'm not up to date, I didn't realise it was the last few hours
User7: User9 how do I nominate a bug for a release? I've never actually figured that out
User9: User16 did you see any of this?
User9: User7 there's a option called "nominate for release"
User11: * Build-dep on x11proto-xf86vidmode-dev explicitely for
User11: extensions/xf86vmode.h.
User11: * Build-dep on mesa-common-dev explicitely for GL/glx.h.  Note that
User11: libglu1-mesa-dev is needed for plugins/actor/actor_lv_gltest.c, but isn't
User11: checked in configure.ac.
User7: User9 I swear there isn't (I'm using edge) :/
User7: I can target it to a release, maybe this is my damn rubby ducky
User9: User7 not when you report the bug, anyway.
User9: you have to report it first, then change stuff like that.
User11: User7 if you can target then it means you have super-powahs
User7: User11 yeah, I have a rubber ducky, but it's clearly inappropriate for me to target it, so someone else will need to nominate it
User7: at least that would explain why I've never been able to figure out how people are nominating things ;)
User11: User7 I say it's ok in this case as Hobbsee would presumably just approve it straight away
User9: yeah
User11: bug 287448
User5: Launchpad bug 287448 in libvisual-plugins "gnome-settings-daemon fails with libgstlibvisual.so  error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287448
User7: ok
User11: should probably use that one instead
User7: User11 any reason to go with 287448 over 287405? I tend to bundle things up to the lowest number
User9: User7 ones' clearer than the other?
User11: only because it already has one duplicate and it's a pain to duplicate it to something else in that case
User7: ah fair point
User7: although I duped mine onto 405, so they both have dupes now \o/
User11: :-)
 * Ng tidies up
User7: ok, all duped on bug 287448 and it's now tracked in intrepid
User5: Launchpad bug 287448 in libvisual-plugins "gnome-settings-daemon fails with libgstlibvisual.so  error" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287448
User11: ah, -plugins isn't installed by default
User7: should I find and pester someone about fixing it? :)
User9: User7 already doing so
User7: awesome, thanks
User9: just hoping to avoid doing it myself, as i was hoping to go to bed.
User11: User9 do you know what the issue is?
User9: User11 not really, but I don't have a problem with reverting it, as it took him 3 revisions in the smae hour to get that far.
User11: ah, if you are just going to revert then go ahead
User9: apparently I wasn't thinking when I accepted it the first time (although universe wasn't under a freeze - only by a LP limitation)
User9: OTOH, if you want to upload a reversion, that'd be even nicer :)
User11: I was going to install it and try and grab a stacktrace
User9: even if he manages to solve that one, i've no idea how many other ubgs have managed to be introduced there
User11: true
User12: I really got used to nautilus tabs
User11: I can't work out how to catch this sigsegv
User11: it seems it's happening in a cloned child
User2: User12 oh, why so? tabs are nice to preload pages or keep things you want to read later in a webbrowser, but that feels weird for a filemanager where you usually want to interact between directories
User9: User2 copy&paste?
User12: User2 well, I don't use it very often, but for copying a bunch of files from here to there it's less clutter on the desktop
User2: User9 that's what I call interacting
User9: particularly for remote locations?
User12: User2 not a killer feature, but it's nice
User9: User2 sure, but in that case, having different tabs, one for origin, and one for destination, i find very useful
User2: User12 good that you like it since it's there anyway ;-)
User2: there was a troll at GUADEC and on planet GNOME about tabs everywhere
User12: User2 yeah, I wasn't complaining about GNOME for a change :-P
User11: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61004/
User2: User9 I like better having the 2 view on screen and doing dnd between those than have to context switch
User11: is that a cause of a sigsegv, or fallout from one?
User1: I agree with seb128, I got used to double clicking with the middle button to open a new nautilus window for such operations (moving bunch of files)...
User2: User1 I'm using nautilus spatial
User2: so I just double click ;-)
User1: User2 no, I never got used to the spatial mode (and I really hate it in the very first version of ubuntu ;))
User1: I am very graceful that we overload the default behavior for that :)
User2: ;-)
User2: tastes
User1: I know it's very pleasent as told me people, but well... you know... habits ^^
User2: anyway that's a configuration option
User2: User11 no idea about the valgrind log
User2: User11 is that the first one you get in the log?
User11: User2 yeah, I'm going to write a libvisual test app
User4: User2 I have seen that there is a new gnome-lirc-properties
User4: I am having a look if it can be updated :)
User2: User4 it still requires a new lirc?
User4: that is what I am about to look :)
User4: but right now the new sources are not yet available on the gnome ftp :)
User4: User2 the gnome-lirc-properties depends on the new lirc... which has just been released (and which is not in intrepid...). So it is not possible to update it
User2: User4 ok, jaunty job
User4: yep
User4: :)
User13: User2 mvo does this works for you? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548600
User5: Gnome bug 548600 in Keybindings "Can no longer configure keyboard shortcuts for switching tabs" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed]
User3: User13 switch to next tab works for me
User13: ok thansk mvo, gt 91.69.162.6 is branched
User13: chpe ended up reverting the accels change and the locale ones
User14: hey, did you guys notice any major issue with GNOME 2.24.1?
User2: User14 no
User12: User14 latest regression du jour is bug 287448, but it's not really GNOME core
User5: Launchpad bug 287448 in libvisual-plugins "gnome-settings-daemon fails with libgstlibvisual.so  error" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287448
 * mpt discovers Nautilus's audio preview crack
User15: ...
User15: "System policy prevents stopping the when other users are logged in"
User15: What's that supposed to mean?
User15: I accidentally the whole login
User12: User15 consolekit thinks it must stop you from shutting down the box if there are other sessions running; pretty much what it says
User12: User15 this sentence no verb
User16: User9 Interesting; it seems libvisual crashes gsd here as well
User12: User16 I'm just trying to debug this
User12: User16 I followed up to the bug
User16: User9 What's weird is that I compared the *build* logs of libvisual
User15: pitti, "prevents" is a fine verb, though probably incorrect in this case -- it's the missing noun that's the problem
User12: we have a fallback option, but I'd rather fix it properly
User16: User12 I compared the build logs of libvisual before and after changing it
User12: User16 it wasn't due to your change
User12: User16 see the bug trail :)
User16: Indeed, james_w already tried a simple rebuild
User16: User12 I'm relieved :)
User16: Cause I had been extremely cautious with it
User16: User12 Thanks for looking into it BTW, I have been dragged in urgent matters today
User12: User16 do you know a bit about gstreamer?
User12: User16 it annoys me that "gdb --args gst-inspect-0.10" doesn't actually intercept the crash
User12: but exits with 1, and just prints "it crashed blabla" to stderr
User12: ERROR: Caught a segmentation fault while loading plugin file:
User12: /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstlibvisual.so
User12: yes, dear gst, I'd like to *catch* it
User12: --gst-disable-segtrap makes it worse
User16: User12 It's meant to fork when registering plugins
User16: It shouldn't ever crash
User16: But it does :)
User12: gst-instpect itself indeed dosen't
User16: I think you can set some env vars to change this, but I don't know them of heart
User12: User16 ok, I'll poke
User12: apport seems to catch the actual crash, the trace just isn't very helpful
User12: I'd like to run the forked instance under valgrind
User12: --gst-disable-registry-fork
User16: User12 Try running the -0.10
User12: that sounds promising
User12: hah
User12: that works
User16: #0  0x00007f6dae738fb3 in visual_object_unref () from /usr/lib/libvisual-0.4.so.0
User16: #1  0x00007f6dae7233fb in visual_plugin_get_references () from /usr/lib/libvisual-0.4.so.0
User16: yup
User12: User16 still nothing that actually goes through nastyfft
User12: nomen est omen, I'd say :(
User16: Hmm we can drop our changes to libvisual now
User16: libvisual (0.4.0-2.1ubuntu1) intrepid; urgency=low
User16: * Suggest not Recommend libvisual-0.4-plugins
User12: User16 right; for now I try to rebuild libvisual against current intrepid, too
User16: User12 It was rebuilt recently though
User12: June
User16: 18 Jul 2008
User12: right, that's not really 'recent'
User16: Ok; I'm rebuilding it too, with debug :)
User12: User16 well, I'm not that hopeful that it works, but let's try :)
User12: fortunately we have -dbgsyms for all that stuff
User16: 0x00007fae453cbfe3 in visual_object_unref (object=0x7fae4539bd40) at lv_object.c:239
User16: 239             object->refcount--;
User12: ok, rebuilding doesn't help
User16: User12 Yeah, it's just that I find it a bit time consuming to install the dbgsym (I have to enable it in source.list or search it, then go to update and install it) and I sometimes get additional debug flags set with manual rebuilds
User16: no, rebuilding didn't help, but I got the above output; is this what you got too?
User12: User16 yes, I get the same stack trace; valgrind and gdb agree, too
User16: Ok, it crashes when unrefing the plug_info object
User12: plug_name = 0xb7beec82 "\203ï¿½\020[]ï¿½\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220U\211ï¿½S\203ï¿½\f\215E\020\211D$\b\213E\fï¿½\031ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½\201ï¿½N\003\021"
User12: hm, that doesn't look healthy
User12: that's in
User12: #1  0xb7809045 in visual_plugin_get_references (
User12: pluginpath=0xbf7fe670 "/usr/lib/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_nastyfft.so",
User12: count=0xbf7fe658) at lv_plugin.c:914
User12: in nastyfft!
User16: pluginpath=0x7fff198af660 "/usr/lib/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_nastyfft.so", count=0x7fff198af650) at lv_plugin.c:914
User12: hm, it's binary garbage for bumpscope, too, so that's not it
User16: Weird, I get $1 = (int *) 0x7f19cfeaf520
User16: $2 = 0x7f19cfeaf520 "ï¿½\v"
User16: as plugin_version
User16: It's supposed to be .version = N_("0.5") AIUI
User12: for bumpscope,
User12: (gdb) p *plugin_version
User12: $5 = 0
User12: for the next couple of plugins, it's 0, too
User16: I see the __lv_plugin_libvisual_api_version symbol on the module, hmm
User16: User12 What did you think of the warnings around nastyfft?
User16: In file included from actor_nastyfft.c:32:
User16: ../../../gettext.h:71:1: warning: "gettext_noop" redefined
User16: the gettext_noop also appears in actor_oinksie.c
User16: and the get_plugin_info also appears for actor_lv_gltest.c
User16: both are also installed, and seem to cause a crash
User12: User16 oh, good catch
User16: err don't seem
User16: Sorry, typo
User16: These don't seem to cause a crash
User12: right, but they do cause warnings
User16: If I move only the nastyfft one out of the plugin dir, it doesn't crash
User12: an undeclared function is usually interpreted as int f(int), or so, no?
User16: or (void) or something
User12: User16 yes, I said in the bug that --disable-nastyfft would be a possible quick workaround in intrepid
User12: User16 however, gst-inspect gives me those instead:
User12: (gst-inspect-0.10:17144): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_value_set_int_range: assertion `start < end' failed
User12: User16 I get that three times, might be the three ones from libvisula which aren't registered
User16: User12 How do you get these?
User12: gst-inspect-0.10 -a > /dev/null
User12: (with nastyfft removed)
User16: Hmm I don't get them with just gst-inspect-0.10
User16: but that does go via the libvisual plugins
User12: neither do I, just with -a
User12: this thing is full of undeclared functions...
User12: User16 I don't see any compiler warning in nastyfft which isn't also present in the other ones, though
User16: User12 Exactly
User16: So just at the visual_object_unref, the refcount is already zero
User12: anyway, I'm off for a quick dinner, bbl
User16: bye
User16: I wonder whether it's the const
User16: User12 Yup, solved
User16: Doesn't crash anymore
User16: I don't want to tell you at how many levels libvisual is broken
User16: And that was the only occurrence
User16: User12 Pushed
User2: User16 you are speaking libvisual, does it mean bug #287396 is for you?
User5: Launchpad bug 287396 in gst-plugins-base0.10 "pidgin crashes on startup at loading /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstlibvisual.so" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287396
User16: User2 yup
User16: User2 uploaded already
User16: User2 dup of 287448
User2: User16 ok thanks, any reference bug to dup this one?
User2: User16 thanks!
User16: Don't ask your next question, I already know its answer
User2: ;-)
User16: User2 I guess there must have been a huge number of random dups on this  :-/
User2: User16 not so much on desktop packages apparently but let's wait before speaking usually the flood of dups is filled after we fix the bug, time to get the update building and mirrors updated, etc
User16: User9 Any particular dupes I can merge for you?
User12: User16 re
User12: rock!
User12: User16 thanks a lot
User16: User12 Hey, can you test and approve libvisual-plugins?
User12: User16 test yes, approve no
User16: User12 Well I kind of broke it, to some extent, by rebuilding it  ;-)
User12: we need to wait until after RC
User12: unless..
User12: it's not on any CD or DVD
User16: User12 uhoh
User16: User12 Well I think it wasn't pulled in until now
 * pitti checks DVDs
User12: User16 right, that's what I'm noping
User12: hoping
User12: User16 but we built DVDs after the promotion
User16: User12 What do you think of repromoting the recommends in libvisual to be in sync with Debian again?
User12: User16 we are lucky, it's not on the DVD
User12: User16 I'm all for that
User17: ember, User2 Do you mind if I do the gnome-terminal 91.69.162.6 update and add the tab key switching patch back?
User16: Any idea of a version number higher than 0.4.0-2.1ubuntu1 which doesn't have ubuntu?
User12: User16 0.4.0-2.1+build1
User16: Thanks
User12: User16 I actually have that upload prepared :)
User13: User17 i've updated in my branch
User2: User17 you can do whatever you want on this one, get mvo to look at your change when you need sponsoring
User12: User16 anyway, why didn't you do that as a patch?
User17: (alternatively, since the only change between 2.24.1 and .1.1 was to remove the said patch, how about a patch to 2.24.1 to add in the missing bit?)
User12: User16 it's currently applied inline
User13: User17 that patch introduces a bug
User16: User12 Oh ups, didn't check for a patch system; I recall there's one now
User17: User13 There was just a commit which wasn't included in the stable branch, afaik?
User16: User12 Sorry about that; will publish an ubuntu5 ASAP
User12: User16 I'll cross-check/test the patch here in the meantime
User16: Ok, thanks
 * mvo heard his name
User12: User16 don't bump the version number again, please; just upload, I'll reject the previous one
User16: User12 Ok
User12: User3 buh!
User3: User17 oh, I thought it was ok that it get dropped because of the upstream changes there. sorry for that
User3: User17 I will be happy to sponsor it
User3: User12 *meh*
User17: User3 No worries, we were just following upstream ;)
 * lool pushed libvisual; now pack to plugins
User13: the patch is incomplete due string freeze
User17: User3 Do you think skipping 91.69.162.6 is OK?
User17: User13 Right, but we can pull the diff from trunk, no?
User13: or skip 91.69.162.6
User17: User13 We still need a patch
User3: User17 I think by shipping 2.24.1 with all the changes we crossed the line, now we shouldn't stop
User17: The options are no longer in the keybinding editor, at least for me either
User17: -either
User12: User16 I don't even see nastyfft in gst-inspect...
User3: could we revert to 2.24.0?
User16: User12 It's a libvisual-plugin; you'll probably only see a visual gst element
User13: 2.24.1 fixes other issues
User13: i think we should follow upstream
User16: User12 Perhaps it's something like visualsink actor=nastyfft
User12: User16 gst-inspect-0.10 libvisual has others, like oinksie or corona
User17: I'll see what patch is needed
User16: User12 Ok; no idea then
User13: User17 the correct patch is what got removed on 91.69.162.6
User13: the complete -trunk is more complete but have a lot of new string
User13: *strings
User17: User13 But with 2.24.1 I don't see the bindings in the editor.
User16: User12 Pushing the new ubuntu4
User13: and you have it on 2.24.0 ?
 * pitti hugs lool, you rock
User17: User13 Yes. Do you see the new options?
 * lool hugs pitti for being so supportiv
User16: e
User12: User2 that unbreaks g-s-d and pidgin
User17: I believe it was just a patch from trunk that got missed from the .1
User12: User16 I'll get it past Steve :)
User13: User17 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556893
User5: Gnome bug 556893 in general "Crash when closing a tab" [Critical,Resolved: fixed]
User2: User12 and you going to block it until after the candidate?
User16: User12 So DVD affected?
User17: User13 Can we get the fix for this too then?
User17: Or do you think we should just follow upstream?
User12: User16 no, not on DVD; that's our luck
User12: User2 no, accepting now
User2: User12 thanks ;-)
User13: imo i think we should follow upstream, but it just an opinion
User16: User12 excellent
User17: Right. Well I'll work up a debdiff and you can decide whether to include it - otherwise I'll stick it in my PPA
User12: uh, where's seb128?
User12: User16 anyway, we need to hold back packages which are on the CDs to avoid archive/CD skew; the rest can go
User13: User17 please for gnome-terminal use bzr to make mvo life easier
User17: User13 OK, where's the branch
User17: ?
User16: User12 I've pushed to my ppa anyway
User16: People can get it from there
User17: (It's hard to know where packages are maintained, should I have looked somewhere to find this out?)
User16: Well it's not the version with the patch but anyway
User12: User16 it'll be on archive.u.c. in an hour, too
User13: User17 ~ubuntu-core-devs one
User17: ty
User16: User12 I'm about to head off for bed -- unless I need to wait for some confirmation or can help finish closing this case?
User12: User16 that's fine; it's completely done nwo
User16: Good
 * lool waves good night
User13: good night
User12: User16 sleep well
User13: User3 do you have an opinion on this?
User3: User13 sorry, I disconnected
User13: about gt
User3: User13 right, I missed some discussion points I think
User13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61178/
User3: ember, User17 sorry that I was not following it as closely as I should - what exactly is the problem that 24.1.1 solves and is this a regression from 2.24.0 ?
User13: 91.69.162.6 is a regression of 2.24.1, remember the <locale> thing?
User3: yes
User17: User3 Yes. The option to configure the keybindings for switching to specific tabs (1-9) were dropped in 2.24.0, and added back in 2.24.1. Unfortunately, a commit was missed in the version and it appears to have introduced another crasher which is now fixed, so 91.69.162.6 was released which backed it out.
User17: I'm doing a patch to add the missed commit and the crash fix
User3: right
User17: So the options are: a) accept my patch and have the functionality, and b) hedge our bets and go with upstream's 91.69.162.6
User3: thanks for explaining that! I would like to see the diff for (a) to make a call
User13: User3 could you merge 91.69.162.6 from my branch to Laney work on it
User3: will do
User3: User13 a small issue with the merge is the version number (2.24.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1) - I correct that
User13: heh ok, thanks
User3: commited
User3: np :)
User4: User2 lut
User4: anything particular I can do to help ?
User2: User4 'soir
User2: User4 you can do the http://download.gnome.org/sources/libwnck/2.24/libwnck-2.24.1.tar.gz update
User4: User2 on my way
User11: nice work lool, what was it in the end?
User12: User11 changing a const structure
User11: ah, good spot, I doubt I would ever have caught that
User11: sorry for not giving you all the information before I left, but I had to dash out
User12: User11 no problem at all, thanks for pointing to nastyfft
User12: User11 I wonder how you manage to help with just about every bug we receive :)
User11: User12 I used to test program to work around gstreamer not wanting to give the stacktrace
User12: User11 in the end I used "gdb --args gst-inspect-0.10  --gst-disable-segtrap --gst-disable-registry-fork"
User11: heh, just work on the most visible ones, and it looks like you do more than you actually do :-)
User11: ah, I hadn't found --gst-disable-registry-fork
User4: User2 I'd like to test the libwnck update... any idea what can I do to do that ?
User2: User4 libwnck is what is used in the tasks list and the workspace switcher applets
User4: ok
User2: User4 so switch workspaces, try changing the number, open some applications and verify they are listed
User4: I'll do that right now :)
User2: User4 restart your session to get the new version used before
User4: yep
User2: User3 do you look at compiz bug? there is one that is collecting lot of duplicates
User3: User2 which one
User3: User2 I'm behind with triage (badly on compiz, really badly :(
User3: quite good with update-manager though
User2: User3 #277906
User3: bug 277906
User5: Launchpad bug 277906 in compiz "crashed when double-clicking update manager icon" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277906
User2: User3 78 duplicates
User3: woah
User3: and that makes *compiz* crash
 * mvo scratches his head
User2: User3 the title is likely wrong
User3: and of course it does not crash when I try that
User2: User3 looking quickly through duplicate it's likely a crash on session closing
User2: User3 they just get the notification on next login
User3: yeah, I think so too
User3: its most likely this other one that already has >180 dupes
User2: User3 the bug itself is not so annoying, that's just flooding launchpad and the retracers
User3: right. I looked at the code and there is no way (in the code) that w can be 0x1 or 0x1000
User3: it must be some sort of corruption
User2: race on shutdown?
User3: upstream looked too and is the same opinion - I'm not arguing that there is a bug, its just difficult to find and has (apparently) no user visibile conceqences
User3: yeah, I suspect that
User3: I suspect it happens when the plugins gets unloaded or something
User3: s/that there is a bug,/that there is no bug,/
User2: right
User2: that's something we would no notice if apport was not running
User2: User3 anyway I was just pointing it because I noticed it was giving lot of activity to the retracers, that's not a priority for intrepid
User17: Erm, I'm getting the message "You must have at least one <locale> entry in a <schema>" when installing my updated g-t-data package, but AFAICS all schemas do have a locale. What gives?
User17: (the file is huge, does anyone have a way of searching which ones it thinks are bad?)
User4: User2 here is bug 287778
User5: Launchpad bug 287778 in libwnck "Please sponsor libwnck 2.24.1 into intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287778
User3: User2 right, thanks for telling me about it!
User2: User4 thanks, that's all for tonight
User4: User2 ok :)
User4: so the follow up will be tomorrow :)
User4: have a good night everyone !
User2: 'night huats
User17: Can someone glance over http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/gnome-terminal.schemas and see why apparently the switch_to_tab entries don't contain a locale subkey (confirmed with a small script at http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/nolocale.py) :(
User17: It certainly looks like they do to me...
User17: bah, I don't get it
User17: ...oh, there are duplicates at the end
 * Laney runs
User18: anybody know anything about gnome-session?
User18: I'm trying to get gnome-session-save --logout-dialog to work without gnome-session but I just get: Failed to call logout: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
User13: User17 you can use the patch i've added on 2.24.1
User17: User13 I already proposed it for merging. Did I miss something?
User13: User17 well you missed the changelog, 91.69.162.6-0ubuntu1 so you can work on that
User17: I considered them two separate versions
User13: you can use the existing one
User13: and the <locale> patch was already on http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ember/gnome-terminal/ubuntu/annotate/13?file_id=06_add_locale_to_sch-20081021142706-ok5ff551hicoxnoe-1
User17: Yeah, I used upstream's patch for that
User13: you shouldn't
User13: it introduces new strings
User17: The translations are in the generated schema
User13: are you sure?
User13: where?
User17: /usr/share/gconf/schemas/gnome-terminal.schema
User17: also check the pofiles
User13: i'm just talking due to this http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548600#c10
User5: Gnome bug 548600 in Keybindings "Can no longer configure keyboard shortcuts for switching tabs" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed]
User13: and due to the missing <locale>
User17: I don't see a problem
User17: but I've got to go to bed now
User17: shall check back in tomorrow, night night
User13: good night
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