User1: morning guys
User1: everyday i receive at least 1 phising email - is there anywhere i can report it ?
User2: \o all
User2: missed, kulelu88
User2: maaz tell kulelu88 to ping andrewlsd if he still hasn't got history timestamps working
User3: User2 Got it, I'll tell kulelu88 on freenode
User4: User1 Only one, that's not bad. Since subscribing to debian mailing lists I get about 5-10 a day
User4: Luckily all caught by the spam filter
User1: thanks paddatrapper - i wanted to report it so others dont get caught - i have a good spam filter - common sense - unfortuanately others may not
User5: morning
User2: \o thatgraemeguy
User4: User1 Yeah I understand, not sure there is a place to report them that is actually effective
User1: would be nice if these spammer can get caught
User4: Anyone know of a good online storage service for dumping about 5-10GB worth of backups? Preferably with a low price-point
User2: Amazon Glacier paddatrapper
User2: and/or "crashplan"
User2: Glacier is very cheap,  until you need to recover all your data.
User1: mega.nz free account 50G
User2: Glacier allows you to retrieve a percentage of your data at no additional charge.  +1 for nszero
User2: with any cloud hosting, also have a plan for how to migrate to another provider, in case the one you've selected closes down (or just shutters that product)
User4: thanks, yeah I just back-up the lxc containers and then restore them to a new host if I need to move providers, etc, but I need to find a way of doing it that doesn't require me downloading it all locally
User2: ... if those containers contain sensitive information then you probably want to encrypt that data before uploading them.
User4: Definitely plan on it
User2: OTH,  you could run your own LXD image registry on amazon. and use that to publish your LXC containers.
User2: ... methinks Mega is likely the easiest option.
User4: User1 is it possible to rsync/similar to mega?
User1: i havent used it myself - but they offer megatools a command line client - not sure if its free though
User1: this might help - its free - https://github.com/megous/megatools
User4: thanks. I'll take a look
User4: And it's in debian repos
User1: and this if you want to mount the share locally  - https://github.com/matteoserva/MegaFuse
 * andrewlsd lurks
User4: Do we have a meeting tonight?
User1: maaz might know
User1: the ubuntu loco team portal needs updating btw
User4: User3 meeting
User3: Meetings are held every 3rd Monday of each month at 19h30 SAST. More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings
User4: That page is also out of date...
User2: User4 so we should have had a meeting on the 16th, by the looks of that info from Maaz
User4: User2 The channel title says today at 20:30. Then I guess shall we have it?
User4: User3 seen Kilos
User3: User4 Kilos was last seen 1 day, 5 hours and 22 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2017-01-23 07:43:16 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2017-01-23 08:06:13 SAST
User6: we should have a meeting tonight
User6: User4 seems like you would be chair... i can share our cheatsheet in a bit if you are still up to it?
User6: To all: the meeting page has been updated so feel free to add anything missing...
User6: User3 announce Meeting here tonight
User3: Hear ye, hear ye! Meeting here tonight
User6: User8 can you send out the twitter notification for the meeting?
User6: hi synapse | Guest89004
User6: and welcome to the ubuntu-za channel
User7: User6 I read the word cheese in your nick now I want cheese puffs
User4: User6 cool. That would be great thanks
User6: User7 nlsthzn may have some again at the meeting tonight :P
User6: thought he never shares them either :D
User6: User8 we also need to make sure paddatrapper has Maaz permissions for tonight's meeting
User6: User3 last seen kulelu88
User3: User6 Excuse me?
User6: User3 seen kulelu88
User3: User6 kulelu88 was last seen 16 hours, 43 minutes and 55 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2017-01-23 21:54:05 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2017-01-24 04:56:36 SAST
User8: yikes!
User8: good mornings
User8: User6 I won't make the meeting tonight
User8: User4 let's see whether we can get you up on Maaz
User4: User8 thanks, that would be useful
User8: User3 help accounts
User3: User8 Manage users accounts with the bot. An account represents a person. An account has one or more identities, which is a user on a specific source.
User3: You can use it like this:
User3: I am <identity> on <source>
User3: link user <username> to <identity> on <source>
User3: remove identity <identity> on <source> [from <username>]
User3: create account [<name>]
User3: delete (my account|account <name>)
User3: rename (my account|account <name>) to <name>
User3: set (my|<account>) <name> to <value>
User3: list (my|<username>'s) identities
User8: User3 permissions for paddatrapper
User3: User8 I don't know who paddatrapper is
User4: lol
User8: User4 try this: "User3 I am paddatrapper on irc"
User8: obviously without quotes
User4: User3 I am paddatrapper on irc
User3: User4 I've created the account paddatrapper for you
User3: User4 I am not connected to irc
User4: User3 I am paddatrapper on freenode
User3: User4 This identity is already attached to account paddatrapper
User9: whats up all
User8: User3 permissions for paddatrapper
User3: User8 Permissions: none
User4: hey shifter
User8: User3 grant chairmeeting to paddatrapper
User3: User8 Alrighty
User8: User3 permissions for paddatrapper
User3: User8 Permissions: +chairmeeting
User8: User4 done
User4: thanks
User9: has anyone used bitvise ssh before on windows?
User9: hey paddatrapper
User8: User4 don't know whether it matters that we said irc rather than freenode above
User8: if you want you can just remove identity and we try again
User8: User9 what is windows?
User9: anyone know of a good alternative for bitvise ssh, something that can open a terminal window and a sftp windows
User9: inetpro, its cancer, i recently found the cure
User8: haha :-D
User10: User8 What's the time?
User11: Hello ubuntu-za
User10: User9 putty or winscp
User10: Hi sakhi
User9: thanks superfly, do they have sftp windows as well?
User11: hi superfly happy for you :) greencard.
User10: User11 thanks!
User10: User9 I don't know. I just know that those two are tools some colleagues of mine used. I last used Windows more than 10 years ago
User11: Any suggestions on Linux based VPN (besides OpenVPN) that will allow users connection to their Windows DC's and other local MS services?
User9: lol, thanks superfly
User10: User11 what about pptp?
User4: User8 It does, it it dependent on your config file - by default it uses freenode, as each irc server (freenode, atrum, oftc, etc) is a different source
User4: hey superfly
User10: Hey paddatrapper!
User4: User3 link user paddatrapper to paddatrapper on freenode
User3: User4 Just do it yourself
User11: Pf-Sense (vpn) -> Auth -> AD -> Services. I need to have *nix on the edge.
User4: User10 How goes things?
User11: User10 that should work, will check it, will also look at what IKE.
User10: User4 slowly. Finally got a desk, so now I can at least set up the mac again and have a desktop machine
User4: User10 Nice! Getting there
User10: User4 am uncle gave us a PC, but we need to go fetch it, so I'm not sure what its specs are
User10: *an
User10: paddatrapper, User11 What's the time there at the moment?
User10: I've completely lost track
User11: User10 16:20
User10: Thanks. I want to try to be at the meeting
User4: User10 Meeting is in 2h10
User10: OK, 9:30 my time
User9: if I wanted to run sublime test form the terminal, how would i do that?
User9: *test
User9: *text
User4: User9 you use vim :)
User9: lol eventually
User9: let me crawl first before I move to hyper speed
User4: lol, vim isn't too bad
User10: actually, it's easier to just go straight to vim. It's so completely different to other editors that you'll only get more confused if you use others.
User9: aw maaaaaaaaaaan
User10: http://www.viemu.com/a-why-vi-vim.html
User10: User9 read that ^^
User10: User9 also this: http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2012/03/21/why-vim/
User9: ok, prepare for more annoying questions LOL
User10: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Yckiwntz2PIGsbSn6Q3COPmCLLntVw7h1DJwk9mbeEg/mobilepresent
User9: im still on the first resource
User9: vi is the "killerest" LOL
User10: User6 I don't. I used the first article I linked to, and then I just used it on a daily basis for anything that involved typing, except e-mails.
User10: You can probably figure out a way to use it for e-mail too, I just haven't bothered because my e-mail is web-based,
User10: chesedo, User9 also, use Neovim, not vim. And get some good plugins installed. I'll put up my configuration just now.
User9: im trying out vimtutor
User10: chesedo, User9 also, http://vimawesome.com
User10: chesedo, User9 I'm using vim-plug as a plugin manager. See https://github.com/junegunn/vim-plug
User10: chesedo, User9 this is my init.vim for Neovim: https://bin.snyman.info/mmm8mcm7
User4: User10 mutt for email, with $EDITOR=vim will allow you to use it for email too
User10: User4 does mutt work with imap?
 * paddatrapper has his config in git: https://gitlab.com/paddatrapper/dotfiles
User4: User10 last I checked yup
User4: I was using it with Gmail for a while, then got lazy
User10: User4 I have my config in bzr on a server I control ;-)
User10: I need to install loggerhead or something
User4: User10 Nice, a little _too_ much work for me there
User4: I need to fix the current issues I'm facing before I even consider adding more to my infrastructure
User10: User4 actually, all you need is bzr installed on the server (and in the case of git, git) for a remote repo. for a frontend you'd need something like cgit
User4: one day then :)
User9: man this is hectic
User10: chesedo, User9 also, install Hack: http://sourcefoundry.org/hack/
User10: User4 so, is this meeting happening?
 * superfly feels like he's missing something
User4: User10 Seems I can't maths - supposed to be in an hour
User10: ah, OK
User4: Sorry was busy with supper
User10: np
User10: It's currently 10:25am here, so I've pretty much got all day ;-)
User10: User4 just a tip, we should have an AGREED to end every topic. If you look at the last meeting's minutes, you'll see that there are lots of topics, but nothing to say what we actually discussed or even decided (if anything)
User10: User3 help meetings
User3: User10 Take minutes of an IRC Meeting. You can use it like this:
User3: (start | end) meeting [about <title>]
User3: I am <True Name>
User3: topic <topic>
User3: (agreed | idea | accepted | rejected) <statement>
User3: minutes so far
User3: meeting title is <title>
User10: User4 I think using "idea" might also be a good idea... if you'll excuse the pun
User4: User10 thanks. Yeah will do
User10: User4 look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20161122#Summary to see what I mean
User10: maybe I should raise it as an idea in the meeting ;-)
User10: how meta :-P
User1: evening all
 * smile pokes superfly
User12: is there a meeting tonight / today?
User10: hi nsnzero, smile
User1: at 8.30
User10: User12 yes
User10: in about 15 minutes
User12: okay :)
User1: greetings superfly and smile
User10: User1 11:30 my time, I think
User12: Don't forget it's 19:13 here, nsnzero :p
User1: my apologies 8.30pm
User12: oke :)
User1: back in the day my grandfather used to wind his watch , now we have to charge our watches
User12: User13 welcome
User13: hi smile
User1: thanks for joining us kmf
User13: np nsnzero
User10: sup kmf!
User13: howdy superfly ... hoe's die weer?
User10: User13 'n bietjie koud, maar nie sleg nie. beter a kaapstad se winter, en veels beter as gauteng se winter
User10: *as
User13: lol ... keep to engrish sounds better
User1: almost meeting time ...
User4: 2 minutes according to my clock
User6: a few seconds
User4: and
User6: hi kmf
User4: User3 start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - January 2017
 * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
User13: User6 hello!
User4: User3 topic Welcoming and Introduction
User3: Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction
User4: Welcome all those who made it, thanks for being here!
User4: Our bot maaz does the minutes as usual so please introduce yourself to it using `User3 I am <firstname lastname>` eg.
User4: User3 I am Kyle Robbertze
User3: User4 Okay
User6: User3 I am Pieter Engelbrecht
User3: User6 Yessir
User4: The agenda for today is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20170124 feel free to add any last minute stuff
User4: everyone happy with the agenda?
User1: User3 i am nsnzero
User3: User1 Righto
User6: User4 I'm ok with it
User13: +1
User4: User3 agreed All happy with previous minutes
User3: Agreed: All happy with previous minutes
User4: User3 topic Review of previous minutes
User3: Current Topic: Review of previous minutes
User4: Previous minutes are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20161122#Summary
User4: Everyone happy with the minutes of last meeting? Even if it was a while ago
User4: ?
User6: yes
User13: +1
User4: User3 agreed All happy with previous minutes
User3: Agreed: All happy with previous minutes
User4: User3 topic Plans for 2017
User3: Current Topic: Plans for 2017
User4: They aren't around, but does anyone know the status of magespawn's application or that of tareq or Kapanda?
User6: superfly kmf nsnzero thatgraemeguy shifter spinza  would you guys introduce yourself to Maaz with your fullnames
User6: User4 i am checking magespawns
User4: And while we're at it, anyone else wanting help with membership, launchpad IDs, etc?
User13: User3 I am Karl Fischer
User3: User13 Righto
User6: wiki page still missing for him
User4: User10 word wakker man!
User6: lol, we took to long, he was eager 2h ago :P
User4: User6 cool. I haven't seen tareq or Kapanda around at all
User4: yeah kids must be calling
User4: Ok then is there an update on Ubuntu for Hope?
User6: User4 tareq is from somewhre in asia and only Kilos has contact with him...
User10: sorry, busy with some other things
User10: User3 I am Raoul Snyman
User3: User10 Alrighty
User6: Kapanda has not been around in a while
User4: Wonder how Kilos is doing... Hasn't been online today at all
User6: User4 I do not know if we have any...
 * chesedo also wonders
User4: User3 agreed magespawn still needs a wiki page, Kapanda hasn't been seen in a while and Kilos is the only one with contact with Kapanda
User3: Agreed: magespawn still needs a wiki page, Kapanda hasn't been seen in a while and Kilos is the only one with contact with Kapanda
User4: User3 agreed no update on Ubuntu for Hope
User3: Agreed: no update on Ubuntu for Hope
User6: User13 any events planned for Ubuntu for Hope that we can help with
User13: User6 ...
User4: User3 topic Events
User3: Current Topic: Events
User4: I'll take that as no kmf :)
User13: User6 nothing major planned, but I want to organize a GLUG party
User13: User4 ... sorry my wife called ... she has OP status ....
User6: User13 sound exciting!!!
User13: User6 GLUG is 20 years old I think
User4: User13 No problem. That she does!
User4: That's impressive
User13: User6 spoke to Ross Addis and he is keen to do something from a RedHat side :D
 * paddatrapper has no idea how old CLUG is
User8: good evening
User8: User3 I am Gustav H Meyer
User3: User8 Done
User4: hey inetpro
User6: User13 is this in the near future?
User13: User6 .... I hope so ... but he is busy now ... it's the RedHat forum
User13: @inetpro hello Oom Gustav
User4: User13 I take it GLUG is 20 y/o this year?
User13: User4 .... ja ... I think
User4: User3 agreed kmf wants to organise a GLUG part sometime soon for what may be their 20th year
User3: Agreed: kmf wants to organise a GLUG part sometime soon for what may be their 20th year
User8: User6 sorry, I forgot to tweet about the meeting
User6: User8 np
User4: Anyone able to report back about devug that happend earlier this month?
User8: User13 good to see you here 
 * chesedo forgot to got all things ready late last week
User13: User8 my pleasure ... you look good have you lost some weight or is it my new font that makes you look smaller
User4: lol
User8: haha :)
User6: User4 seemed like kulelu88 was interested in going, but do not know anything
User4: User3 agreed no info about devug
User3: Agreed: no info about devug
 * chesedo rofl
User13: ;)
User4: Ok then there are two events coming up - rubyfuza and devconf, anyone know more?
User4: rubyfuza: 2-4 February 2017 Cape Town and devconf: 9 March, 2017, Johannesburg
User8: sounds good
User13: User4 ... yes ... what about scaleconf?
User4: User13 I shall add it in! That's next month isn't it?
User9: User3 I am C Fleming
User3: User9 Okay
User4: Scaleconf - 9-10 March, Cape Town
User4: Kirstenbosch nog al!
User13: User4 yebo ... same time as devconf ....
User8: anyone here been to previous scaleconf events?
User10: I went to ScaleConf 2013
User4: User10 What's its focus?
User10: User4 mostly boasting about how much data they're processing
User6: User10 highpoint/best that you got from it?
User10: User6 anyone can process a lot of data if you have a lot of money
 * superfly turns the sarcasm down a little
 * paddatrapper wonders if SKA will present anything considering the volumes they process
User10: User6 the best talk, in my opinion, was actually my boss's
User10: User4 they did in 2013
User10: they had some MS salesdrone present on Azure
User4: As always
User4: User3 agreed Rubyfuza: 2-4 February, Cape Town bd6c:f4c4:4f6:c742:59d8:35db:68f6:4d5f Scaleconf: 9-10 March, Cape Town bd6c:f4c4:4f6:c742:59d8:35db:68f6:4d5f Devconf: 9 March, Johannesburg
User3: Agreed: Rubyfuza: 2-4 February, Cape Town bd6c:f4c4:4f6:c742:59d8:35db:68f6:4d5f Scaleconf: 9-10 March, Cape Town bd6c:f4c4:4f6:c742:59d8:35db:68f6:4d5f Devconf: 9 March, Johannesburg
User4: User3 topic Miscellaneous
User3: Current Topic: Miscellaneous
User4: Anyone know anything about the Ubuntu education project?
User13: nope
User10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmMofn2dKhA
User6: same here
User10: (my boss's talk)
User4: User10 was about to ask, thanks
User4: anything else anyone wants to bring up?
 * inetpro don't remember seeing anything about Ubuntu education recently 
 * inetpro wondering whether highvoltage is still involved with edubuntu
User6: User8 Kapanda and william are the main guys on it
User4: User8 as far as I know, yes
User4: in that I am redesigning stuff that he wants to include in it
User8: nice
User8: wb MaNI
User4: User3 topic Next meeting
User3: Current Topic: Next meeting
User4: Next meeting 28 February 2017 @ 20:30 according to the agenda, is that fine?
User13: +1
User8: +1
User6: +1
User4: User3 agreed Next meeting is 28 February 2017 @ 20:30
User3: Agreed: Next meeting is 28 February 2017 @ 20:30
User4: User3 topic Elect chairperson for next meeting
User3: Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting
User14: inetpro, thanks
User4: Who feels like volunteering as tribute?
User4: hey MaNI 
 * inetpro votes for paddatrapper
User13: me 2
User4: It's still before the start of term, so should be possible
User6: User8 you are chickening out again :P
User4: lol
User6: I am also ok with that
User8: User6 you guys are better than me
User4: User3 agreed paddatrapper to chair next meeting
User3: Agreed: paddatrapper to chair next meeting
User4: User3 end meeting
User3: Meeting Ended
User3: Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-01-24-18-30-31.json bd6c:f4c4:4f6:c742:59d8:35db:68f6:4d5f txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-01-24-18-30-31.txt bd6c:f4c4:4f6:c742:59d8:35db:68f6:4d5f html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-01-24-18-30-31.html
User4: Thanks everyone!
User8: great job paddatrapper
User6: awesomely done paddatrapper
User4: thanks inetpro, chesedo
User8: User6 my time is still too uncertain at this stage
User8: life keeping me busy
User6: User8 i'm just pooling your leg
User8: good night everybody
User13: good night
User13: love you all
User6: night inetpro kmf
User10: User4 you know what would be useful in ibid, an "INFO" for meetings
User12: bye! :)
User4: User10 yeah. There are a couple of things I'd like to pull from the Debconf bot like that
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