User1: morning boys and girls.
User2: morning
User1: morning
User3: morning
User3: Happy JamesTait say
User3: *day
User4: Failure.
User3: I know
User3: that's why it's JamesTait day
 * SuperMatt runs
User5: Good morning all; happy Rain Day! :-D
User6: slaps JamesTait
User5: Ow!
User6: more sunshine!
User7: but rain is good
User5: I like rain.
User6: not till after my holiday
User6: unfortunately bbc are predicting rain every day
User5: My first week off is next week.  We're planning a trip to the beach on Saturday.  The weather forecast just suggested that the closer to the weekend we get, the more prolonged the rain showers will be.
User4: we had amazing weather last week (sorry)
User6: slaps everybody
User4: never had a british holiday with such good weather
User5: YOU'RE WELCOME!
User4: :D
User6: last time we went to devon in sumnmer it rained every single day
User6: in fact every year the weather sucks
User6: i'm the rain god from h2g2g
User4: Rob McKenna
User6: yup
User4: not listened to that for a while, I should.
User8: User4 you should try it more often
User4: it?
User8: holidaying in the uk :)
User4: i do it every year
User4: pretty much
User5: We generally just do day trips for a couple of weeks.
User6: if my wife didn't insist on booking up 6 mo's in advance i would take a late notice holiday when the weather was looking good
User7: I had to book in my holiday in April for the summer
User9: My holiday still isn't booked and I've taken the time off work with the kids the last week in August... really ought to sort something
User9: :)
User9: I'm also going away this weekend and haven't sorted stuff yet, most unorganised I've been in years!
 * MartijnVdS is back home :)
User10: St Malo - Home is a longer drive than I expected.
User6: memories of eric rohmer films
User6: waves at MartijnVdS
User10: \o foobarry
User10: also.. there was a speck of dust on my lens :(
User6: the whole week?
User10: most of it
User6: oh noes. no auto dust cleaning mode?
User10: my camera does, and the sensor is OK.. but the lens had a bit on it
User10: I can probably gimp around it though
User10: if I stop being lazy and actually learn how to use gimp for other things than cropping and rotating ;)
User6: heal tool
User10: http://thecodelesscode.com/case/155
User6: in chrome, GPU process  is eating 80% of CPU, what is that all abot?
User6: no tab in particular
User7: there was a discussion on the knitting channel over games and gaming
User7: my mind was blown when there was a discussion over XBox One and someone said they had preordered theirs.
User7: "what"
User7: turns out XBox One is released in Finland officially in September.
User7: "The change, which pushed the release date for the other 8 markets to 2014, was attributed to unforeseen complexity in localizing the new Kinect peripheral."
User6: something to do with herring i expect
User7: MIDDAY EDUCATIONAL MOMENT! https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wof0xPUmW38
User4: hah
User4: thats brilliant
User11: hello people!!!
User11: hello?
User7: yes?
 * awilkins is Soylent Green
User7: oooohhhh
User7: my scissors arrived
User8: User7 For a second then I thought you were ooohhhhing awilkings is Soylent Green comment I'm glad you added the scissors line :D
User7: it's like Christmas today
User7: my Woolrunners arrived too
User8: User7 you have people who run for your wool wow that's decadence
User7: User8 https://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/(972)603-8310/
User7: https://www.flickr.com/search/?tags=woolrunners&sort=relevance&user_id=78835633%40N00
User7: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/3over7/the-wool-runners-no-socks-no-smell
User12: Good morning peeps :)
User7: these feel lush
User4: pip pip
User12: User4 fancy a beer at the weekend?
User4: you in the area?
User12: I'll be on a train
User4: uh
User12: You've double booked Saturday night?
User4: no
User4: dunno where my ticket is
User12: Phew
User4: is it this weekend?
User12: Yes
User4: hehe
User12: 2nd August
User4: where's moodoo?
User7: busy in his new job
User12: What is it with you and RAT ticket?! :P
User4: its more someone tidying things up
User4: I'll find it, no doubt
User12: Damn those tidy people!
User13: Someone sitting near me at work has lunch that smells like a dustbin lorry Dâ¢
User12: Finally found the booking confirmation for my hotel
User4: well, turned my desk upside down and cant find it
User9: Wifey put it in a safe place ?
User9: My Ex always used to do that, "I've put in a safe place, I know I have!"
User4: yeah, she claims to have not seen it though
User12: Just found out that I've already paid for my hotel as well. Happy days
User7: hihi :->
User12: Just need to find some beer tokens now :S
User12: And some cash for a taxi ride
User7: these might be straight out of the box most comfy shoes I've ever had
User14: Heh, listening to Discworld audiobooks love the line "Give a man a fire he's warm for a day, set him on fire he's warm for the rest of his life"
User15: makes sense to me
User15: I need to set more folk on fire methinks
User10: User6 thanks for that tip about the heal tool
User10: User6 my pictures are mostly dust spot free now :)
User6: heh
 * davmor2 sets diddledan on fire......sorry did I miss the point I thought that's what you were asking for ;)
User6: care to show one that will make me jealous for being in an office?
User12: AlanBell: bringing a webcam with you on the RAT this year?
User12: If I can work out how to adapt the power for mine for a USB battery, I might bring mine
User2: aww, rat all sold out
User12: It did so months ago
User12: I started organising this year's event in Feb (I think)
User2: yeah, too busy with finals to book it
User12: Are you old enough to legally drink ale now? :P
User2: i was 22 last thursday!
User12: Have you grown a beard and smoke a pipe?
User12: I think these are still requirements for ale drinking
User2: i did the first one briefly
User12: Yes, was amused by the photos ;)
User2: i even had a moustache for about 36 hours
User2: turns out allowing your facebook friends to vote on your facial hair is a bad idea if you don't like looking like a someone who can't go within 200m of a school
User12: Haha
User10: User2 you have this problem now?
User10: oh wait
User8: oh nice I forgot about Fairground the Rollo and sister bliss mix
User2: http://i.imgur.com/J6gxLbz.jpg
User2: it even scares me
User12: o.O
User10: ð±
User10: (U+1F631 FACE SCREAMING IN FEAR)
User16: needs glasses with giant plastic rims
User2: heh
User8: User16 and a ford capri
User15: User10 how do you type that?
User10: User15 with gucharmap
User15: User10 cheater
User10: User15 or Ctrl+Shift+U 1f631 <space>
User15: User8 don't you mean a ford prefect?
User8: User15 no
User10: A flying ford anglia?
User12: ð±
User12: My my
User15: ð½
User15: :-p
User12: That doesn't render in Ubuntu font
User10: alien!
User10: User12 get Symbola
User15: they've got fancy colouring in os x
User12: But I like Ubuntu
User15: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2m09x5gzndw5xdy/Screenshot%202014-07-29%2014.51.48.png
User15: retina screenies ftw
User15: I need a retina desktop monitor
User6: lunchtime sunshine made me tired
User6: need zzzz
User6: i was coping with my rubbish nights sleep until then
User12: Funky
User12: User15 ^
User15: speaking of retina - apple launched new macbook pros today
User15: mainly a speedbump
User8: User15 man if they are as big as a speedbump I'm not interested
User14: User17 Was it you that was doing some research on OKCupid? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-28543248?ocid=socialflow_twitter
User17: User14 yup haha
User6: "research"
User17: User14 this Berni Good guy isn't that smart either, he seems to think hobbies dictate compatibility
User6: in a sense...
User15: <-- hobbies: sitting on a chair staring at a screen in the dark
User6: my wife's knitting and female geekery in croceht and wool spinning matches my linux geekery and scale model making
User15: User6 but they're not identical!?! you should never have got along!
User15: :-p
User6: oggcamp is comparable to woolfest*
User15: lol
 * DJones wonders if he's married to foobarry's other half, thats the same hobbies my wife has
User6: bought her a spinning wheel today
User14: Rudder admits that "OKCupid doesn't really know what it's doing".... ok, so it just depicts real life then
 * foobarry best husband in the world , for 1 day
User15: \o/
User15: go foobarry !
User6: and it wasn't even her birthday
User15: it's nice to be "that guy" every so often
User17: User14 I think OKCupids algorithm is great at determining someone you will be friends with, but nothing more
User6: i've never seen a dating site
User9: Azelphur, I sort of agree with that
User6: a male and female that both like beer could be fatal
User17: for example, I had my best friend sign up to it out of curiosity and answer a bunch of questions, we got like 94% match
User9: I became friends with a few people I met on there, but also did date someone fora  year
User6: User17 was it a guy?
User17: User6 yea
User6: sounds like a very narrow concept of matching
User17: User6 it's trying to mathematically predict emotional constructs, what do you expect? XD
User6: as i say , hobbies have their equivalents, but that takes a bit of life experience to see what the equivalents are
User16: similar traits seems to be the dictionary definition of matching
User6: e.g. both like cinema
User6: i love cinema but i hate hollywood trash, would ok cupid ask about types of film?
User15: I love hollywood trash :-p
User16: they could settle on one question
User6: most people would consider that i didn't like cinema as a result of my disparaging views on hollywood
User6: maybe i'm more booky
User16: How do you like your women? [covered in bees][in a plastic cup][wat?]
User6: BEEES
User15: User16 sunny-side up
User17: User6 actually they do, they ask about whether you like horror movies, also apparently the answer to this question is one of the highest statistical indicators of compatibility.
User6: still too generic
User6: there's certain books i've read that i've only ever seen 1 person reading. would i be a match/soulmate?
User17: User6 the main problem however, is even if the algorithm did work, the vast majority of people don't pay any attention when answering the questions
User6: probably for the first 3 dates.
User17: which is just...stupid.
User16: of all dating sites, ok cupid are the only ones who openly blog about fascinating trends in compatibility and behaviours
User16: so there's some value to that
User14: User6 That'd be like "Do you like reading"....Erm Yeah....I like scifi/adventure, wife likes slushy romance/drama
User17: User16 indeed, I've read it all and it is very interesting
User16: i found the one on race quite sad
User6: which is?
User16: tl;dr: black women have it tough in the dating scene
User16: there was a matrix for messages sent versus messages replied to, by race. it was all vaguely green, usually a strong correlation between same races. then just a big red line for messages sent by black women
User16: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/
User6: what is "black"?
User6: mixed race is black or mixed race?
User17: User16 like if you take my most recent email from okcupid on new matches, the top result, the question "Would you prefer good things happened, or interesting things?" she has answered with Good, and she has also said that my answer of "Good" is unacceptable for a potential partner
 * Azelphur facedesks
User6: you dodged one there
User17: and again, "Do you enjoy finding out what make things work the way they do?" she has answered "I'm an information sponge" and marked my same answer as unacceptable in a partner
User10: User17 time to try tinder instead :P
User17: this is a fairly common trend, people with highly incoherent answers, I've spoken to one or two women who say they just don't bother to pay attention xD
User6: i know lloads of lovely women who are single
User17: User10 haha, tinder strikes me as not enough personality
User6: its a tough market
User17: User6 send some my way ;)
User6: heh
User6: seriously, some lovely girls. some might not find a partner either
User6: often the best guys wait for perfect opportunities or shy etc
User6: not v extrovert at showing off , because thats not their style
User10: or afraid because of a history of rejection
User6: also, as alaian de botton says, there's no room for philosophers in a nightclub
User6: nightclubs are a terrible way of finding partners
User4: i found my wife in one â»
User4: although technically we'd been lusting for eachother for 5 years before that
User6: my sister did too, and completely against the grain of nightclub clientele
User17: User4 haha, taking it just a bit slow then :)
User16: i found my wife at christian bowling.
User6: lustign at a distance is what geeks do best
User16: bring-a-friend-to-convert christian youth social
User4: didn't speak to her
User6: User16 is that a modern safer version of christians vs lions
User7: oh man
User7: that was a bad joke
User4: first words to her after 5 years of lust was "can I ask you a question?" followed by "if I were to ask you for your phone number, what's the probability you'd give it to me?"
User4: she said "high" so I grabbed a pen from the bar man and asked for it â»
User17: haha
User10: heh
User4: she went home and next morning told her parents "if someone called Alan phones, I don't live here"
User6: i remember a geeky kid at uni to hot girl: "is it worth me trying to chat you up?"
User4: because she couldn't remember who she gave the number to
User4: I called on the sunday (the industry standard 2 days later) and she picked up.. â»
User4: rest is history
User6: awww
User12: Awww
User6: first presetn i bought my wife was a monkeh
User6: like the itv digital monkeh
User6: before we were going out
User6: i had one too. they've had babies now
User17: I just do lots of volunteer work now. It's fun and if I happen to meet someone while doing it it's a bonus :)
User6: do summer fruit picking
User6: loads of cute european types
User17: hehe
User4: hah
User16: pfft, it's 2014. all the best date prospects can be found on MMOs!
User8: User4 tell the truth, you were in white and rhinestones, walked up to her and in your best southern Accent said "Are you Lonesome tonight?" and after getting her number said "Fank ya very much, ah hu I'm all shook up" ;)
User6: we can't go on together with suspicious minds
User6: has anyone ever heard of or used http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_Linux
User15: User6 I used it years ago
User15: User6 it doesn't work on 64bit windows
User6: yeah i noticed
User6: i can't believe this was a suggestion from our helpdesk
User6: because dual boot or vms are so much harder?
User15: I think also latter windows are prevented from running it because it isn't a signed driver (the kernel part)
User15: it's effectively user-mode linux with a windows host instead of a linux one
User16: you can run unsigned kernel code on windows x64... but it has downsides
User16: such as the giant warning watermark on the desktop, and it disables other features
User16: including hdcp monitors
User10: User16 unless you find a way to run the unsigned code in some un-authorized way :)
User15: you might as well just run virtualbox and be done with it
User16: virtualbox /o\
User15: I know, I know. oracle
User15: :-(
User16: it just doesn't work properly IME
User15: but. free.
User6: of course
User15: could pay for vmware workstation
User10: if you have a non-home edition of Windows you can use Windows' own virt stuff
User10: hyperv?
User15: User10 yeah, hyper-v
User16: virtualbox is one of the only times i've had to hack my /var/lib/dpkg/status file to fix dpkg, after it crapped on my package manager
User6: it was a random google search by a numpty in response to a request for linux on teh lab desktop pcs
User16: vmware is lovely and does everything, kvm is basic but actually works
User10: hyperv doesn't seem half bad either?
User6: vmawre player is the "lighter" version to run vm
User10: I mean you still need the Windows license to run the "manager"/hypervisor OS.
User10: (ooh, Ars went GNU on their phone -- http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/07/exploring-the-world-of-foss-android-can-a-smartphone-be-open-source/)
User17: hmm, I dunno what on earth scp is doing. I am copying C:\ from a Windows machine, supposedly the partition only has 65GB used, yet it's transferred 150GB and counting...
User15: well there's your mistake right there. c:\ from windows
User17: not my machine :)
User15: :-p
User15: I'm trolling
User15: trol lol lol lol lol
User15: www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqdqyvcJtig
User17: hehe
User6: does 14.04 have wubi still?
User17: but yea, the backup folder is already 159GB, the whole partition is only 176GB >.>
User6: i was installing for a new user today. they had 4 partitions already used by windows, and windows does something horrid. ubutnu offered to install INSIDE windows until i deleted /dev/sda4 and then it said alongside WONDIWS
User17: so the question is how on earth can scping /media/blah onto a remote machine, baring in mind the partition only has a use% of 65GB, the result can be a 159GB still rising folder >.<
User9: du -sh the dirs ?
User6: dd it instead
User17: User6 I got a dd image, just prefer a copy of the files for easy access.
User6: tar
User6: or mount the dd img
User6: i don't trust windows tools
User6: or filesystems
User17: hehe
User17: User9 source du's at 65GB, destination is 160GB now xD
User16: blocksync.py!
User17: I guess I'll have to go without a file backup and just rely on the image, which is a pain.
User6: tar should be ok
User17: User6 why would tar be ok and scp not be ok?
User6: tar is a tape archive, its a different concept. i've no idea why cp, except maybe fs block size (small files)?
User6: windows doesn't have eternal folders if a symlink is bad does it?
User17: there are a lot of small files
User6: same filesystem?
User6: maybe the small files take a larger blocksize each time?
User17: User6 nah, ext4 and ntfs
User6: tar preserves permissions better. winzip might too
User12: Anybody here use Acrobits Softphone on Android? I've lost the ability to access a settings menu
User15: you can now rickroll chromecasts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7nqP8AvXUg
User17: User15 I don't get that, why would the chromecast connect to some arbitrary ssid?
User15: User17 because the rickmote tells it to
User17: ah I've just read the article, I see how it works
User17: when the chromecast disconnects, it goes into config mode xD
User15: yeah it's not very secure
User15: basically anyone can reconfigure your chromecast once it's disconnected
User17: indeed
User17: for bonus points, I accidentally just deleted the drive image for that laptop, now to take the drive image again! \o/
User6: c:numpty
User7: I love these shoes â¥
User17: I need new shoes xD
User7: I'd otherwise recommend these but the Kickstarter is over
User7: I'd buy SO a pair if they were available
User17: haha
User17: what are they?
User2: oh ffs shoes
User2: another thing i have to do
User2: oh well
User7: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/3over7/the-wool-runners-no-socks-no-smell
User7: BAA
User6: my shoes stink
User6: my feet don't. strangely
User18: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jynidjgus7t6xze/IMG_20140729_164009.jpg
User18: another super easy SSD upgrade \o/
User17: User7 fun :)
User7: very comfortable too
User7: I'm wondering if I should combine my two kickstarter projects together
User7: I've got a pack of black Hickies shoelaces waiting
User17: mine have developed holes in the back and cut holes into the back of my heel xD
User19: Azelphur, I'd not use scp for large-scale copies anyway
User19: Azelphur, (apologies if this is rehashing things)
User17: heh :)
User19: Azelphur, One possible reason is that Windows does use links for its huge set of backwards compatibility libs
User19: Azelphur, The other thing is that scp is rubbish at lots of dinky files
User15: :-o http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/282855.htm
User17: yea, I think I might just take a separate dd image of /dev/sda1 as well as the image of /dev/sda, then I can mount the image to get at the files.
User19: Azelphur, If I have to do that I use tar - even uncompressed it's much faster than scp
User19: Azelphur, Mounting an image would work too
User17: User15 buy me one :D
User19: Azelphur, I tend to do    ssh remoteserver 'tar c <files>' > ./localfile.tar
User19: Or whatever combination
User19: doing     tar c <folder>  | ssh remoteserver 'tar x'  is great for a quick folder copy
User17: I see
User15: I'm thinking I might plumb the bank account for one of these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-JetDrive-720-SATA-Upgrade/dp/B00JKCHMMS/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1406652644&sr=8-6&keywords=macbook+pro+ssd+upgrade
User18: User15 :O
User18: so taking a fast SSD and connecting it over USB - sad times :(
User15: replacing the inbuilt ssd and putting that in a usb caddy
User18: oh ok
User15: it's a kit to upgrade your ssd which happens to also include a usb thingy so you can carry-on using the old one
User18: or even clone the old as i just did :O
User18: bootup was terrible until i zapped the PRAM :>
User18: now it's 23 seconds boot from off, for an old 5,1 \o/
User20: where's the best place to buy PC parts in the UK?
User15: oh dear
User15: dammit
User15: I went and clicked buy
User16: User20 "it depends"
User15: I have a very accident prone purchasing habbit
User16: User20 i tend to spread my pc across multiple vendors these days
User15: I just did it with amazon
User15: I like dabs
User15: if I'm in southampton I might pop into novatech
User17: User20 I really like scan.co.uk, prices are good, and they have an insurance offering which is pretty cool too.
User15: User17 their "for today only" deals are sometimes pretty decent, too
User17: for example if you do a full high end PC build (say Â£1000) for like Â£20 on top they'll insure it for 30 days against accidental damage, so you don't have to worry about accidentally dropping or damaging components
User16: i use scan for the free shipping........ but scan is terrible for warranty service
User17: User15 indeed
User16: they depreciate the value of your faulty item using some magic secret algorithm, so "my 300GBP graphics card died after 2 years" turns into an offer of about 100 quid, since they don't have replacements to provide
User17: User16 sounds fairly shit, most companies have an equal to or greater than policy
User16: User17 we got i think GBP130 for a dear 6970
User16: dead
User17: User16 I'd ask for a replacement card and wouldn't take no for an answer myself
User17: warranty is warranty, not guarantee
User16: easier to just give my money to other people
User20: scan.co.uk do they do "today" only amd pcs?
User17: User20 huh?
User20: ugh nvm
User20: i guess today only is in the title lol
User21: GOT A CAB TO BERMONDSEY
User17: User22 XMPP \o/
User22: XMPP \o/
User22: How goes, Azelphur? :)
User17: not bad, just had a HDD spontaneously fail on me
User22: Fridge
User17: has no data worth recovering on it
User17: so...trash :P
User22: I was convinced that putting them in the fridge was a myth, until I tried it
User18: electronics recycling!
User22: I currently have a PC that has been running for several months on a bad disk
User18: how bad are we talking? :>
User17: haha
User22: If you turn it off for a while, it won't power up unless you put the disk in the fridge for a couple of hours
User22: Then it powers up and stays working
User22: as long as you keep the disk spinning
User17: I might do it just to be 100% sure there isn't anything in there
User18: dd zero fill even if not \o/
User23: rebbaj \0/
User23: Or disassemble it and smash the platters...
User21: 8.90 a pack
User21: :(
User23: What is?
User18: cancer sticks
User23: Ah
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