User1: hello
User2: Hi! does anyone know how to delete saved sessions in xubuntu?
User2: Anyone?
User3: hello anyone successfully installed/setup epson stylus c90?
User4: Hey
User4: Just wondering, how do I unpack .rpm files?
User4: i've looked around but the rpm command doesn't work
User4: is there a program I need to install first?
User4: any help would be great
User5: what is the reason for xubuntu to boot from a live cd without the toolbars ? ( i mean the applications menu, the clock and so on)
User5: how do i show the panel bar ?
User6: Can anyone here help me? I've got hd2400 video card, got picture on both the lcd screen and the tv, but the picture is cloned... how can i extend my desktop to the tv?
User7: will my computer be faster with xfce
User6: Can anyone here help me? I've got hd2400 video card, got picture on both the lcd screen and the tv, but the picture is cloned... how can i extend my desktop to the tv?
User8: !xinerama | d1n0
User9: User6 xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
User8: User6 that is the only way i can think of to extend to a tv
User6: oh
User6: hmm
User6: im not at all interested in one lagre virtual display
* neozen dances
User10: only 6 more days till gutsy!
User6: Yeah, I'm looking forward to that too
User8: User6 then i don't entirely follow what you mean by "extend my desktop"
User10: how much of the enhancements from ubuntu are making it in?
User6: User8 have you never used windows xp with 2 screens?
User10: ie.... compiz-fusion etc
User8: User6 uhmm... not really, i've been a gnu/linux user for almost 8 years now
User10: !samba
User9: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
User11: neozen, not CF :P
User10: awwwww...
User10: lol
User6: In windows you can select "extended desktop" or "clone", if you go for the extended desktop, you get a new desktop at the tv, which you can drag movies and stuff over too, and still use the lcd screen for other shit
User11: Does anyone know why I didn't see X-Displayconfig in Xubuntu Gutsy?
User10: could anyone recommend a solid gtk-based samba share browser
User8: User6 please don't curse .... and i think you are looking for what is called twinview in the gnu/linux world
User6: User8 dude, curse? :) hehe... ok... twinview doesnt work with ati, does it?
User8: User10 http://pyneighborhood.sourceforge.net/ <--- its either hit or miss if you get it working but i have heard good things (i think you might have to run it as sudo .... its in the repos also)
User8: User6 its an ubuntu thing ... they don't like "four letter words"
User8: User6 ati has their own version ... lemme get you a tutorial
User6: hmm, ok thx :) but just so you know, i've gone through a dozen of tutorials, and im still stuck
User8: User6 http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxAndDualMonitors.html
User6: Thanks, i'll check it out
User8: okies
User12: could someone recommend a really feature full irc client. I have been using pidgin but i am disappointed with its irc behavior.
User12: now im using xchat and it seems very plain
User13: User12 irssi
User8: User12 irssi
User8: TheSheep beat me to it
User12: thanks
User8: np
User13: mindframe-: too bad
User8: User12 read the docs and it will be your favorite program by the end of the day
* maxamillion huggles his irssi
* pleia2 huggles her irssi
User13: User8 wait, there are docs? ;)
User12: no mindframe is right
User14: people say konversation is nice too if you want to go the GUI route, but probably no better than xchat
User8: User13 lol
User8: konversation to my knowledge is basically a port of xchat to the kde-libs and qt
User12: im lame i know.... i like to be visually stimulated... im add
User12: a.d.d that is
User8: User12 me too ... been clinically diagnosed for 12 years, doesn't mean much
User8: User12 you are alot more productive with a keyboard than you are with a mouse ;)
User15: how much visibla can a irc client become, you can make your terminal transparent .. :{
User12: User8 no it sure doesnt... except that stimulants will often have the opposite effect
* maxamillion has transparent terminals
User8: User12 true ... but it does mean that multitasking comes easier and more fluent to you ... and you can do more at once using keyboard shortcuts than you can having to move to move your mouse
User8: :D
User12: well anyways thanks for the invaluable input... i will continue my search for something that gives me a warm fuzzy feeling
User13: User8 even better way to learn to use keyboard: use a stylus with a tablet instead of a mouse
User13: User8 stylus is over 2 times faster than mouse
User8: interesting ....
User13: User8 but putting it down takes down, and typing with it in hand is horrible
User13: takse time
User13: User8 I usually put it behind my ear
User13: or in my mouth
User8: rgr
User13: User8 still, makes you want to minimize switching :)
User16: Anyone know where the "user specific" screen resolution setting is? My xorg.conf is fine. I only get out of sync for one user.
User13: User16 settings->display settings
User16: User13 I have no screen. Out of sync error only.
User13: User16 you can also switch them with alt+ctrl+gray plus
User16: User13 What is gray plus?
User13: User16 the plus on your numeric keypad
User13: User16 to the far right
User16: No that doesn't work either.
User16: I am looking for the file itself.
User16: For those keeping xkeller@example.net. The file was: /home/user/.config/xfce4/mcs_settings/display.xml
User17: can anyone do a "du -sh /var" and tell me the result, please?
User13: 237M
User17: Thanks
User13: User17 apt-get clean will reduce it a little
User17: yes
User18: what do you want to know the size of /var for?  My /var is more then 20gb...
User19: keep tabs on on diskusage?
User17: i'm trying to decide on a size for the /var partition; i have a small disk
User17: so i thought i'd run a poll
User17: 20GB for /var is astronomical BTW
User17: Gentoo uses a large /var because that's where it builds everything from source, and 3GB is enough
User13: User17 why do you need a separate /var ?
User17: User13 actually i'm also trying to decide that
User17: usually it's good to separate /usr and /var from /; if one filesystem fails on you, you can fix it separately, and it takes less time too
User13: User17 I can understand that you could want a separate /boot, if you wanted to use a different filesystem than ext3, a separate /home is obvious, separate /tmp mounted in memory might be nice, separate /usr to make it read-only, etc., but /var ?
User17: also, you may want to journal /var but not /usr
User13: hmmm
User17: the multi-disk howto says it's higly recommended to split /var and /usr from /
User17: User13 /us is static data, /var is... variable: changes a lot
User13: User17 so does pretty much anything else in /
User13: User17 except maybe /etc and /lib, bu they are small
User17: so, journaling /usr is not necessary. Yes, you may want to journal /
User17: although, hmm i can't think of what changes so much under /
User13: User17 /etc :)
User17: do you update your config files continuously?
User19: sheep, if /var and / are on the same partition and you fill it, it can cause real problems
User13: User19 how so?
User13: User19 as long as /tmp is separate...
User17: can't boot
User20: Xubuntu Gutsy will be released in the same day as Ubuntu?
User19: as harp said, can't boot with a full /
User13: User20 or few days later
User13: User20 there can be some slip
User20: k, thenk you!
User13: User19 ok, that's a good reason :)
User17: User13 actually, i'm not sure it can't boot, but having pbms as wyrd said rings a bell
User17: hey, i've been partitioning for quite a while now and haven't had pbms in while
User13: User17 afair apt-get downloads all the packages to /var/cache when updating, you might want to have at least 800-900MB if you plan on dist-update in the future
User13: User17 then again, you can mount some partition temporarily there wheile updating
User17: rats, too big. OK, TY though
User19: mine was 500, on my laptop
User13: User17 yu only need that much when replacing almost whole system with newer versions
User19: just cleaned it out though
User13: User17 you can probably do it in steps too
User19: my gentoo on's 900
User17: User13 indeed i usually prefer doing it in steps
User17: User19 yes i've made do with 1GB on Gentoo
User19: it's a headless server though
User19: so i don't do much X stuff with it
User13: User17 some tex files might need about 100-200MB in there, possibly, if you use some advanced features
User17: wow
User13: User17 font cache and the like
User13: User17 the whole text system is pretty complicated, so I'm not sure what *exactly* are these
User19: who
User19: oops
User19: wrong window
User21: does anyone know where i can download the default xubuntu desktop background please?
User19: it'll  be in /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops
User21: not if i run Debian!
User19: ah ha, i see your problem ;)
User19: let me see
User21: thanks
User21: of if someone could just stick it here?  http://yourfilehost.com/flash_upload.php
User22: Is there a better channel for xubuntu 7.10 support
User19: defuzed: for more general things, not to do with xfce etc, try #ubuntu
User19: sam, witch is it you want?
User21: the blue one please
User22: well my issue is with installing compiz fusion in xubuntu 7.10
User19: d, sorry i can't help there, my xubuntu lappy would die if i even mentioned it
User22: wyrd, thanks
User19: s, there's a lot of blue in xubuntu
User21: umm the one that loads by default? not sure what else to say
User21: it's kind of wavy?
User19: ok
User19: hmmm
User19: that upload thing's pretty rubbish
User19: http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=image&file=xubuntu_jmak.png
User19: there you go
User19: took 3 computers to achieve that miracle :P
User21: Thankyou!
User21: this is a GPL image?
User19: i assume so
User19: come in the universe packages
User19: *comes
User21: hmm so could be copyright..
User19: will be, but free to distribute
User21: OK thanks
User23: and free to alter
User16: Very strange network issue. Cannot ping self (hostname or localhost) but can access the rest of the work. Any ideas?
User16: Was having problems starting/stopping portmap so I removed it. (don't use nfs).
User16: No firewall either.
User8: User16 can you just not do 'ping localhost'? or can you not do 'ping 91.69.162.6'?
User16: both. Or my hostname or ipaddress.
User8: User16 interesting
User16: I can ssh to another machince and have no problem.
User16: I can ping my hostname remotely logged into another system but not locally.
User8: User16 run this command in the terminal and tell me if it says anything 'cat /etc/network/interfaces | grep loopback'
* bigredradio wonders where the cameras are
User16: User8 Yes. I have loopback
User16: My /etc/hosts is configured correctly. I have an entry with ifconfig -a. I am typing on the system I cannot ping.
User8: User16 its possible your iptables setup is rejecting it .. but that's unlikely
User19: can you ping it from else where?
User16: User19 yes. I do not have iptables running. (lsmod check)
User19: can you do route -n
User16: User19 No problems there.
User19: so, you've a route to 91.69.162.6?
User19: can you do cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_*
User16: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_*0
User16: 1
User16: 0
User16: 1
User16: 250
User16: 6168
User16: There is a line break after the asterisk.
User19: that looks ok
User16: I am having trouble connecting to any local services. ssh, telnet, rsh, and others.
User19: can you pastebin the output of route -n for me please?
User19: and iptables -L -n, just in case
User16: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40312/
User19: ah ha!
User19: no route to 1991.69.162.6
User19: *127
User16: But I cannot ping my ipaddress either.
User19: if you ping your ip it goes through that secreetly
User19: i think
User19: route add -net 91.69.162.6
User19: that should fix it
User16: route add -net 91.69.162.6
User16: SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument
User16: WTF?
User19: hmmm
User19: did you use sudo?
User16: I am already root
User19: oh
User19: ok
User19: same error here
User19: odd, that's straight from the man page
User16: User19 what version are you?
User19: of route?
User16: yes, and xubuntu
User16: net-tools 1.60
User16: route 1.98 (2001-04-15)
User19: net-tools 1.60
User19: and xubuntu edgy, i think
User19: hmmm
User19: i haven't a lo route either
User19: but i can ping localhost
User16: Since it is more than ping failing, I suspect something deeper.
User19: this is weird
User19: dodgy routing is all i can think of
User19: is lo up?
User16: User19 yeah. From what I can tell.
User16: User19 hold the phone
User16: ifup lo reported already configured. I took it down, then brought it back up and it now works.
User19: cool
User19: wonder what's changed
User16: thanks for your help.
User19: no worries
User16: I think this may have to do with the new module I use. I read about taking eth0 down and back up to work, but did not suspect same issue with lo.
User19: what module was that?
User16: (Also explains why I don't get X on boot). I have to startx manually.
User16: e1000-ich9
User19: x needs lo
User16: I updated /etc/init.d/networking to take down and bring up all interfaces on start.
User16: Band-aid for now
User19: hmmm
User16: Checking if X comes up on boot. Be back later.
User19: there must be a btter way
User19: k
User16: User19 No luck fixing X. That one still baffles me. It attemps to start on boot, but appears to fail, but log in as user and run startx, no problems.
User19: odd
User19: can you do tail /var/log/whatever you x log is in paste bin?
User16: User19 There is a lot of data. Not much helpful.
User16: User19 That will have to be for another day. Gotta get *some* work done today.
User16: take care.
User19: ok
User19: you too
User19: bye
User24: i love you people seeding the 7.04 torrent
User24: 941kB/sec
User24: direct download i was maxing at 240kB/sec
User25: when is going to be xubuntu 7.10 released? 18th october?
User26: seems to be
User26: there is a countdown on the ubuntu and fluxbuntu pages
User27: I'm having problems connecting to the internet on Xubuntu. I have a belkin wireless G usb network adapter and I can't get the ndis wrapper to run correctly. Any suggestions?
User27: Could anyone tell me where I could get started on setting up a wireless connection from Xubuntu? It works when I boot windows
User28: jet are you on 7.04?
User27: Yes.
User28: have the case sensitive ssid and password for your wireless router?
User27: I can get into the router from the main computer if that's what you mean, the routers on a different computer.
User28: when you go to system>network is your wireless card visible?
User27: I have to get on the other computer upstairs to check tha, but i know it is registered within the network. Do i still need to go check?
User28: what kind of encryption are you using? wpa2 enterprise?
User27: wep
User27: and I do have the web key for it
User27: i apologize lewin but I have to go. thanks for the help i'll log on again in about 4 1/2 hours hopefully
User28: does anyone know command to restart ps2 mouse? i plug in my ps2 mouse after i boot up (with kvm switch) and it will not automatically detect but keyboard will work. xubuntu 7.10
User29: It's not fair :(
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