User1: uh... like demon you mean?
User2: User1 hehe
User2: they have a paki support line
User1: helpdesk is useless but email seems to work
User2: ;/
User3: ^^, not quite
User2: according to the webby, business users have UK telephone support
User3: we get internet speeds years after everyone else has been updated, and some places of cumbria are still on dial-up to this date T_T
User1: there are technical reasons for that
 * hamitron can vouch for that
User3: yeah I agree, but its mainly the companies just don't want to invest in it
User1: rural telephone exchanges use digital multiplexing which is not compatible with DSL
User2: annoys me when people moan about 3mbit speeds
User2: grrrrrrr
User1: a village with 10 hourses might only have 3 physical phone lines
User1: *houses
User1: not horses
User2: omfg
User1: so when 1 person gets broadband they have to lay a whole new cable over like 10 miles which costs loads
User3: Egypt has finally upgrade their infrastructure to get at least 256Kbps to people... why can't we? (a first-world country)
User2: I got 3mbit!
 * hamitron does a back flip
User1: User3 cairo maybe, not "the middle of nowhere"
User2: rest have mud huts and get shot if they complain
User2: ;)
User1: i bet the situation there is no different, really
User2: and they are the lucky ones
User1: i doubt it's quite that bad
User3: my granddad's (RIP) farm just got it recently
User2: the US has 56k users...
User3: and that's MILES away from any city
User3: User2 yeah but in all fairness they have more ground to cover though :P
User1: distance doesn't matter if there is no multiplexing
User1: it's about the number of cables in the ground
User3: heh yeah I know
User1: they could give 1/4 of rural users fast DSL if they cut off the other 3/4...
User2: 3dB SNR is not good I assume? ;/
User1: because the digital multiplexer puts three phonelines on 1 cable
User1: what they actually do is shuffle the lines around when someone cancels
User1: *4 on 1, not 3
User2: 3 in 4?
User2: reckon cutting all the facebook users off would work then
User1: 4 in 1
User2: cut 3 in 4 off I mean
User2: ;)
User1: the mux unit works the same way as a DSL modem
User2: oh ali
User3: I think I've started something here...
User2: btw, did you sort that image processing out?
User1: well i figured out it isn't linear
User1: i never figured out if it has a name
User2: did you code it?
User1: um. yes?
User3: anyways, point was... I want reliable signal at home and places I visit, and going with a contract is just daft because circumstances change (for anyone) and they get stuck into a contract they hate.
User1: i coded it before i even asked
User2: what was the result like?
User1: dunno, i'm not actually using it on "images"
User2: k :)
User2: User3 didn't you get a cheap phone?
User2: a friend of mine has 6 contracts, just for the gifts he can't afford :/
User3: User2 it was a Nokia 6220 Classic
User3: User2 so yeah
User3: I now have a Google (HTC) Nexus One
User3: but I bought that out-right
User2: :)
User2: I wonder how hard it is to build a phone
User3: that was the first contract phone I've ever gotten... and will be my last... not use to having locked phones :/
User3: User2 don't think its that hard, there are open-sourced PCB's with schematics n stuff that you can follow to make one
User1: pretty hard to build a good one
User1: even harder to get the software to work right
User3: there are open-sourced ones that work
User1: yeah but assuming you want a phone that *doesn't* look like a ball of wires
User2: I don't mind how it looks
User2: :)
User2: if it looks like an amature bomb, all the better
User3: haha
User1: http://www.todayandtomorrow.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/googlephone.jpg
User3: I can't seem to find the ones I looked at anymore :/
User3: typing in open-source phone/mobile seems to pop up with android stuff :/
User2: I want the first portable phone with a breadboard included
User3: User2 haha
User2: that would be so geeky, it is cool
User2: "short pins 4 and 5 for silent mode"
User3: http://www.opencircuits.com/Open_Mobile_Gadgets
User3: that might help get you started dude
User2: oh ffs
User2: don't encourage me
User2: :/
User2: I don't want to be single forever
User2: ;)
User3: I use to go on there to build stupid stuff with parts I have lying around ^^
User3: User2 haha oops
User1: all these "open" phones use off the shelf gsm modules
User3: heh, I've given up on relationships for the time being :/ too much hassle sometimes
User2: tbh, my idea was to use such parts ali1234
User2: :)
User2: not intending to work everything out
User3: User1 well you'd have to... how else you going to talk with the mobile-masts ?
User1: gnuradio and custom gsm firmware, duh
User1: http://gnuradio.org/redmine/wiki/gnuradio
User1: good luck making a portable one though
User1: http://gnuradio.org/redmine/wiki/1/OpenBTS - make your own base station
User2: ali goes all the way
User2: :)
User3: haha
User2: not happy to talk with others, he talks to himself...
User2: ;)
User3: ;p
User4: himself and RMS
User1: note that it can use asterisk to forward your calls
User4: i'd probably jump off a cliff at that point
User3: why do I keep thinking RMS stands for Royal Mail Ship :/
User1: it stands for root mean squared...
User3: haha
User2: I don't get how RMS relates :/
User3: User2 this is what you want: http://www.opencellphone.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
User2: awww guys
User2: I dunno if I can buy another phone
User2: :/
User2: who needs to waste Â£400 on a PSP phone
User2: \o/
User3: lol
User5: tuxxy, how do you get a shellium account ?
User5: marvellous
User2: can't you just sign up?
User5: no well last time i looked you have to do something silly like post yourself on youtube  dancing
User2: :)
User2: did you?
User2: ;/
User3: why not ask #shellium on freenode ?
User5: no i dont do dancing
User3: I'm guessing you mean shellium.org right?
User3: straight out the FAQ:
User3: Why can't I login to the shell?
User3: Becasue you haven't come into the #shellium on freenode to get your shell account activated. Registering gets you access to the site and shell but we like to speak with your shortly before we give you full access to our shell.
User3: User5 I just made an account on shellium with no problems
User3: just make one on the site
User5: yeah it was a while ago ..    was a whim   when i first used telnet etc ..
User3: and talk to the people @ #shellium
User3: ah lol
User2: don't you get an email first?
User3: who's channel flooding?
User6: morning all
User3: howdy
User3: evening ^^
User3: nopes
User3: I'm currently doing the night-shift (sorta) heh
User3: love working from home xD
User6: yay, openERP 6 just got released
User3: screen-x: nope...
User7: Morning
User8: User3 http://theoatmeal.com/comics/working_home
User8: hi daubers
User7: Anyone know a good hitman?
User9: Aloha
User10: Morning folks
User7: o/
User11: morning
User11: User7 that sounds ominous
User10: User7 The only hitman I can think of is Brett "The Hitman" Hart, he was a decent hitman in a wrestling entertainment sort of way
User7: User11 Smug distributor I really want to give a good kicking because he expects me to fix bugs in blasted Windows
User11: fully understandable then. Send him a stale cake as a warning?
User12: Morning all.
User3: evening
User13: Hi peeps
 * DJones wonders what the definition of a "good hitman" is, is one that carries out the hit successfully, one that refuses to do the hit because its morally wrong, or one that goes to confession afterwards
User14: User10 ah, the old "quality vs quantity" debate :)
User15: User16 the second option is not a hitman at all
User15: Anyway I prefer Micheala Strachan to The Hitman
User16: User15 that seemed kinda weird poping up on my screen
User10: Heh
User3: User8 argh! Now I've started doing exactly like what those pictures show xD
User14: User15 you want The Professional :)
User15: :)
User14: don't forget to buy him some milk
User17: morning
User10: Hi ZMo
User18: morning all
User19: morning all
User20: Hello.
User14: 30kV.. nice :)
User10: User6 TheOpenSourcerer Any interest to you? http://www.kable.co.uk/local-government-minimising-spending-good-enough-socitm-21jan11
User18: i really shouldn't of enabled this talking alarm clock thing on my phone, it just puts me in a bad mood when i wake up to it telling me its gonna be -3 in the uk all day :(
User21: is there a way like notifier in ubuntu 10.10 for gmail wherein i get notified about the answer for the email sent by me ?
User21: since my gmail account is bombarded with 1000 emails
User14: Living without an alarm clock++
User14: User21 filter away the messages into folders (tags..) in gmail.. have your inbox be empty except for useful mail :)
User3: heh, I do that
User3: I even made a special spam filter of my own for stuff I might read when bored
User3: usually offers from sites I frequent, and like to glance over
User3: and if I see nothing, rm all from box xD
User3: (or label/tag)
User3: why google didn't just call them folders is beyond me :/
User3: since most people don't realise that folders are in fact just special files xD
User22: morning all
User23: lo
User22: User23 don't you mean "E lo"
User23: haha
User10: User22 Thanks for that, I've now got the "Mr Blue Sky" tune rattling round my head
User24: morning all.
User25: ho-hum
User6: hi Myrtti, feeling better?
User24: morning Myrtti
User22: User10 could be worse you could have greyson chances version of paparazzi in you head http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxDlC7YV5is
User25: User6 neck feels better, however due to family issues messing up my head I'm on sickleave
User25: so: ho-hum
User22: User25 :(
User25: in other news: http://www.urbanears.com/category/plattan
User25: no pink ones in stock :-<
 * davmor2 prods czajkowski to see if she managed to find her missing lung
 * czajkowski stabs davmor2 oi no prodding
User22: User9 :P how you doing
User9: good bit better thanks
User22: User9 find your lung in the end?
User9: yeah once I woke at 5
User11: screen-x: definitely Hammer Time ;)
User13: Stop?
User14: HALT
User22: User13 Hammer Time
User13: Humm
User13: Does Seesaw not work in Chrome on Ubuntu?
User13: Just says "missing plugin" but doesn't say which one
User13: User23 mind if I mess about on your server for a while?
User4: bigcalm, works here
User23: feel free
User13: Yay
User23: want me to reset the map and op you?
 * bigcalm burns everything
User13: I have no idea what being an op would do for me
User23: you can give yourself any item
User23: to play with
User23: e.g. TNT
User13: And isn't the point of a server to jointly build stuff?
User13: Ah, that's cheating :)
User23: or dick about :)
User23: it's not a map I am emotionally attached to
User23: others already blew up the spawn point last night
User23: so when you spawn you fall :)
User13: I wondered why I spawned under water
User23: shall I restart it with a new clean map?
User23: uncheated upon?
User13: Go on then
User23: ok, logout
User13: Done
User13: User4 works now, how odd
User23: done
User23: User13 server is up, no cheating :)
User13: Ta :)
User23: User13 just gave you a saddle :)
User23: you can ride pigs with it
User26: what game are you playing ?
User23: minecraft
User26: oh. dont know it
User25: I just showed minecraft to dsample yesterday and he was all like "huh, and this is supposed to be fun?"
User13: User23 I wondered why I just had a saddle. Ta :)
User13: User25 Looks aren't everything are they?  :)
User27: hey guys! afternoon.
User27: Need to write a script to trigger phone calls if email receieved to a certain address..  got asterisk setup to do the call handling.  Just wondering if anyone could give me a push in the right direction regarding 'best practise' for these kind of things?
User23: User25 it's a question of taste :)
User28: Mmm...taste
User13: Mud house built close to spawn point. Will do for now
User23: Mmm...seeker
 * DJones tastes a fruit pastille
User23: \o/ mud
User28: Hai Popey
User13: Though no lights yet. I'm afraid of the dark!
User18: i managed to log into minecraft last night, i found *white* tree's
User18: it blew my mind
User13: Silver birch by the looks of it
User23: yeah
User23: and black sheep
User13: The logs can't be stacked with original logs, but they yeld the same wood
User23: and octopi
User23: and fish!
User23: and dye!
User23: lots of new stuff
User23: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/3/32/Template1.png
User18: can't find any squid, its annoying, they seem to only spawn in newly generated areas
User23: yeah
User23: you have to go for a wander to generate a new map
User18: thinking about just throwing all my iron/diamond/tools into lava, walking forward till i find somewhere interesting and starting again some time
User14: User18 rm -rf! rm -rf!
User14: User18 save yourself!
User18: you have confused me
User14: User18 Minecrack addiction intervention team, standing by :)
User23: i just removed the map
User23: and it created a nice new one
User23: also http://popeydc.dyndns.org/ <- automagically generating maps :)
User18: i play on a server with other people, don't think they would like that
User23: heh
User18: http://gordallott.com/img/minecraft.png <- automagically generating map with day/night transition ;)
User23: what do you use for that?
User18: err i'm not sure, mc something
User18: lemme check
User18: mcmap :) has a git repo so you can build from there and just use a script + cron to generate and change to night
 * popey fiddles with the one he uses
User18: there was another utility i used with it as well, it was awesome. it got the terrain biome colours into mcmap - very pretty, but it screwed up the saves :(
User18: http://gordallott.com/img/history/history-1295553601.png looks like that during the day
 * popey tries mcmap
User23: dutchie would like mcmap
User23: g++ -O3 -c -Wall -fomit-frame-pointer -pedantic -DWITHPNG -I/usr/local/include main.cpp -o main.default.o
User9: ââââ  ââââ ââââ
User9: ââââ  â âââââââ
User9: â ââ  â ââ ââ â
User9: â ââââââ â ââ â
User23: -pedantic
 * popey jumps
User18: i heard that eventually portals will link servers, we can link up then :)
User13: Yikes!
User9: amazing what rest will do for you
 * davmor2 prods czajkowski to judge how well she really is
 * czajkowski hugs davmor2
User22: everyone down down south call the paramedics now there's something really wrong with czajkowski
User27: definitely..
User22: User9 I take it you're feeling something near human again then :)
User9: yeah
User23: User18 seems no way to tell mcmap where to save the output file?
User23: it just dumps output.png in the current dir?
User18: popey, seems so, i just move the files in my script
User23: ok
User23: will do that
User22: User12 did you manage to get everything transferred in the end I forgot to ask you yesterday?
User18: there are other map software's that do a cool google maps zooming in/out thingy, but i never figured them out
User18: my world isn't big enough anyway
User23: http://popeydc.dyndns.org/
User23: yay
User23: thanks gord
User18: :) you got some weird chunks there
User23: yeah
User23: i blame bigcalm
 * bigcalm looks up
 * bigcalm ponders a mote of water or lava
User26: erm. so this game. you build a world. and then what ?
User26: the website has very little info
User13: User26 have a look on youtube for some videos
User13: There are lots
User1: you punch trees
User18: exobuzz, lego.
User18: its lego
User18: its not a game, its lego in a dynamic changing world
User26: ok.
User23: with zombies
User23: it's under development so stuff changes
User18: and skeletons that sometimes ride giant spiders
User23: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki is worth a look
User18: only saw that once... live in fear now that spiders climb walls
User26: it sounds like the sort of game i should avoid, in case i like it. i mean i dont have time to fix my leanto, let alone build some virtual world out of blocks]
User26: :)
User10: STOP THE PRESSES... Aliens discovered in downing street, Unicorn found in field in Wales, Duke Nukem Forever given release date.  Which of those three is the most likely
User18: exobuzz, no, you don't have time to do real world things because you are so busy in minecraft, not other way around
User14: User10 Next time, lock your TARDIS
User26: gord, that was my point, hence i should avoid it :)
User28: User10 The 2nd one
User23: User26 its fun!
User10: Heh
User28: 3rd may btw :P
User23: my kids _love_ it
User26: ive not even played the humble indie bundle 1 yet.
User26: heh
User18: i'v seen people with families hosting tiny private servers and they all play together, its adorable
User26: it looks like a nice idea though for sure
User12: User22 Yes, thankyou. I ended up using lftp but it works.
User22: User12 that's all that matters :)
User12: It's still a bit cludgy... There's no way I could find to get it to do a "silent" mkdir: http://paste.ubuntu.com/556533/
 * hamitron has his giffgaff
User23: :)
User2: ty pops
User2: :)
User23: no, ty
User2: so now I can spend ages considering if I should transfer my number
User2: :/
User2: tempted to not, then use this as a testing sim
User23: thats what I did
User23: i received a call on my giffgaff phone yesterday
User23: nobody knows the number
User23: probably automated spam
User2: :(
User29: I've just totally reinstalled Ubuntu, installed all my apps, restored my Evolution backup, connected to U1 and back ready to work in just over 30 minutes... that's crazy
User28: Giffgaff?
User2: be silly to phone me, I never answer
User2: ;)
User23: User28 http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/popey
User23: :)
User2: tempted :/ http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9533
User10: User23 Could have been a reused number, I've had that in the past
User2: phone the caller yourself and demand they stop in an abusive manner
User2: that normally stops it
User2: but popey is maybe too nice ;)
User23: :)
User18: popey, unlimited data for 15 a month? really unlimited?
User19: heh my exact question to..! tempted as it runs on o2 network which i like
User19: Is unlimited really unlimited?
User19: The answer is yes, we are unlimited for personal mobile use - but not for commercial and automated use. Mobile Internet allowances exclude PC use and tethering.
User18: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jumpordie/5375065392/ <-- made in inkscape, not a photo
User23: User18 apparently
User2: how can they know you are not using it for "pc use"?
User18: interesting, might make for a good sim for my netbook
User19: gord, thats bloody amazing really
User2: "I took my sim out of my phone, popped it into this, and after I loaded up hyperterm it said "RING RING RING" and I missed a call from my girlfriend :( This thing is pretty cool though." hehe
User2: I reckon I may not transfer my number thinking about it
User2: ideal for just playing with
User25: that does look good, I wonder if it would be a better deal than the 3 prepaid that I occasionally use in UK
User23: User18 not allowed
User23: User18 explicitly not allowed to use it in a pc / dongle or for tethering
User18: i'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to tell the difference ;) hell my netbook runs android! but i don't want to be an arse about it, i'm sure they have realistic (too much data usage) reasons for it
User2: what about using this? http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9342
User2: technically attached to a pc, but I wouldn't be using it for data
 * bigcalm takes a break from the addition
User13: addiction
User30: Hi there - How can I change the login-screen of Ubuntu 10.10? There is no way to change it through the Login-screen from System->Administration->Login Screen
User31: User30 it uses a gnome theme and a wallpaper
User31: fail
User31: User30 it uses a gnome theme and a wallpaper
User30: Okay, so how can I change it?
User31: some funky command, I'll try and ifnd it
User31: User30 gksu -u gdm dbus-launchÂ gnome-appearance-properties
User30: Okay thanks :)
User30: Hmm, nothing happens when I run it :S
User30: It askses for a password and then immediatly shuts down
User31: :S
User30: Yeah :/
 * Azelphur looks some more
User27: argh, this is fun
User30: Thanks :)
User27: writing an asterisk function that upon receipt of an email calls all the people required for the conference.
User1: how are you going to prevent it from getting massively spammed?
User31: User30 http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9748001&postcount=2
User27: User1 the email must contain a secret :p
User30: Thanks!
User28: Like "andylockran wears womens underwear"
User27: brilliant.. now my conference calls are going off left, right and centre
User27: shorten 'to take advantage of' to one word.. exploit
User31: giffgaff activated :D
User2: I shall take my time to do that, just like I do with everything else ;)
User31: hehe
User2: annoyingly, I am 1 sata cable short :/
User31: speedtest.net results are good :D
User31: 4.3mbps down, 1.6mbps up
User2: 3G?
User31: hsdpa
User2: what speed is 2G?
User2: ;/
User19: heh better than my internet connection here at work
User19: :D
User31: not sure
User2: just wondered a typical speed
User2: my phone only has 3.6Mb memory... but still good to know
User2: ;)
User31: User2 16GB Class 6 MicroSD, 1.5GB Built in :P
User2: :)
User2: I maybe have 1Gb MMC somewhere...
User2: will look
User2: not now though
User31: User2 owait, 512MB RAM, 1.5GB Storage, 16GB Class 6 MicroSD :P
User2: are you lacking something in your pants? bragging about a phone ffs ;)
User31: :D
User2: but yeh, it is nice
User2: :/
User31: I can play playstation games on it too
User2: that is nice
User31: User2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6_Nur_3JJw&feature=feedu
User31: music on the video is aptly named, "Android Porn" :P
User2: User31 I am not 128k internet atm ;/
User2: on*
User2: struggling to load pictures, nvm vids
User31: :(
User31: ah, not having VOIP blocked on my phone is awesome
User2: it isn't on giffgaff?
User31: indeed
User2: nice
User2: I am tempted with this kit: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/479
User2: then maybe an arduino
User2: starting to cost as much as a phone though
User28: Can Azelphur run an arduino without blowing it up yet?
User2: haha
User31: nope
User31: :(
User2: oh yeh, I better not encourage him
User2: ;)
User28: Fail :P
User2: tbh, I never used one ;/
User2: I've used some PIC devices
User2: but nothing with a USB interface
User2: so i may do the same :))
User3: question, can you get pidgin 2.7.9 for ubuntu 9.10 at all?
User3: cos someone can't physically update to 10.10 or 10.04 due to driver support for his video card being dropped
User2: if it isn't that newer version, have you looked on launchpad, or pidgin.im?
User3: the newest on pidgin.im 2.7.9, but only works on 10.04/10
User27: anyone got tips on how to use wolframalpha?
User32: User27 with low expectations?
User3: as far as I can see 2.6.6 is the last version for 9.10
User3: but I was just wondering if there was a way to get it to work on 9.10
User3: think there's a way of getting a "matrox p750" graphics card to work on ubuntu 10.10
User2: User3 32 bit?
User3: I think so yeah
User2: the advice I've been given is to buy another graphics card
User2: ;)
User3: heh, yeah that's what I said ^^,
User2: shame on you
User2: I've never give out that advice
User2: ;/
User2: I'd*
User2: my English sucks today
User3: considering that support has been quit for that card years ago...
User2: so?
User2: if linux left support in for older hardware, it would grab more users ;)
User3: ah, see that's were the problem lies
User3: the drivers for that card are binary drivers
User3: and are proprietary
User3: so unless someone codes for it, its not gonna exist any longer
User2: guess it depends why the drivers won't work then
User2: nvidia 71 drivers don't work with newer versions of X.org, because of changes to how things are done
User3: support was taken out from the latest (10.04/10) xorg apparently
User3: shocker ;p
User2: support for most of mine stopped in 8.04
User2: :/
User2: well, 8.10
User2: I can use 8.04
User2: :)
User3: if you think about it, such hardware support has stopped for windows too though... so you can't really blame linux
User3: or its coders
User2: I blame the throw away culture
User3: if a company no longer want to make drivers for it - or doesn't want to update, then its not going to happen unless many people want it back
User3: User2 agreed :/
User2: I don't hold anyone responsible
User2: :)
User2: although, nvidia could make life easier, by providing tech docs for they unsupported cards
User3: agreed!
User2: to be fair to them, they still patch the old drivers to work with newer kernels
User3: if all companies did that... we'd be laughing!
User2: but ofc, they can't re-write huge parts of an old driver, just because X.org changed how it does things
User2: well, they can, but can't be expected to :)
User3: ofc
User2: !gcc
User33: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
User2: !version
User33: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type Â« lsb_release -a Â» in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, Â« apt-cache policy <package> Â»
User2: User3
User2: if you could use an older kernel, it may work
User2: ftp://ftp.matrox.com/pub/mga/archive/linux/2009/1.4.7/readme.txt see section 2
 * MartijnVdS needs to stop buying bad 80s records
 * hamitron smacks MartijnVdS over the head with the Adam Ant record that was just delivered
User34: User14 Agadoo?
User14: User34 Wham :(
User34: /o\
User14: User34 something to fill up the 1-for-â¬1-3-for-â¬2,50 set of 3
User14: I saw 3 12" singles of "Never gonna give you up" as well
User34: :|
User14: I'm considering buying one to troll people
User14: they were near-mint
User2: bbl, grub time \o/
User22: User14 You missed out on a treat you could rickroll people via jpeg
User14: User22 I prefer the "birthday present" route
User14: User34 I got Joshua Tree to compensate
User14: and Equinoxe
User34: I don't know Equinoxe
User22: User14 Yeah but then there is the opportunity to get rickrolled back by on your birthday
User34: Rickroll ping pong?
User14: User22 what if it's a guilty pleasure? :)
User23: User14 JMJ?
User7: Evening
User23: Equinoxe Pt 5
User23: love it
 * popey adds it to spotify
User32: have a good w/e all
User23: o/
User22: User14 then you need to get a life for a start ;)  Nothing wrong with the ging of soul
User14: User23 Jarre, yes :)
User14: User22 8-)
User22: User23 you see the china tour iirc
User23: hmm?
User23: I saw JMJ at London Docklands - Revolution
User23: in ~1989 ish
User23: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_(Jean_Michel_Jarre_album)
User23: close
User23: 1988
User14: cool
User23: more "wet" than "cool" :)
User14: I love the art on Equinoxe and Oxygene
User23: yeah
User14: still looking for Rendez-Vous.. that one wasn't released in the Netherlands it seems :/
User14: discogs marketplace to the rescue ;)
User23: uhoh uh oh...
User23: you got me thinking of Zoolook
User23: which had music in an Amiga game...
User23: the name escapes me
User23: captain blood!
User23: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Blood_(video_game)
User14: User23 you were one of those people running around "I have an Amiga", not knowing what "Amiga" means in Spanish? :P
User23: I never had an Amiga
User23: we were too poor
 * MartijnVdS was too young.. and my dad worked in IT, so we got a PC-XT-clone
User14: in the mid-80s
User23: Infogrames were awesome
User14: No sound for u!
User23: they made some real special games
User14: I've played some Infogrames games.. they are/were a French company
User23: Sapiens was a bit special
User23: oh no that was Loriciels
User23: also french
User14: the original Alone in the Dark series
User23: yeah!
User23: they were great
User14: Loriciel had weird games
User23: i used to watch the titles over and over
User23: there was one with a particle acclerator accident or something?
User23: that transported him away to a pool on a remote planet
User1: another world
User14: I never understood the story behind AitD.. just that it was HARD
User14: one wrong move - dead
User1: another world is probably the hardest game ever
User23: thats it!
User1: flashback is a better game and slightly less punishing
User14: User1 I prefer the Half Life series for my particle accelerator accidents :P
User23: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA2Gb3nnjYY
User1: even today i cannot get past the first 3 screen of another world, even with a walkthrough and videos showing exactly what to do
User23: heh
User14: I played Little Big Planet (another French product :)) a lot
User14: no wait
User14: Adventure :)
User4: flashback is evil
User14: Planet is the PS3 game :)
User4: MartijnVdS, my cousin made that
User14: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Big_Adventure
User14: User4 all of it?
User4: MartijnVdS, well, his company made it
User14: User4 Adeline / Delphine
User4: directhex, adeline
User14: That logo.. in high-res 640x480x8bit
User14: memories! :)
User4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9rick_Raynal
User14: so it runs in the family then? :)
User4: well, family by marriage. but still!
User27: gah, I forget the words sometimes.
User14: User27 "expelliarmus"
User31: User23 rofl
User31: how much ram and what type did you order?
User14: "a lot" apparently
User31: indeed
User31: I see 8 packs of 2 chips
User31: each pack is 2x2, so 32GB total
User31: wonder what type
User14: I guess he wnated 8x1
User31: o.O
User14: 8x1 chip instead of 8x2
User14: easy mistake to make :)
User14: I've ordered SO-DIMM instead of "regular" DIMM once :\
User31: hehe
User14: User31 not that useful when you're building a new PC :)
User31: indeed
User31: 229MB/sec average read on my SSD with disk utility :)
User35: User14 there are RAM manufacturers which will tell you what you need to get based on the motherboard type.
User14: User31 what kind of ssd?
User31: corsair F40GB2
User14: User35 I knew what kind I needed.. some sort of DDR3 of some speed
User35: ah ok, MartijnVdS
User14: User35 but there's this price comparision site in .nl.. and you can select all kinds of details
User14: User35 but I overlooked the "dimm/so-dimm" toggle  :)
User35: interesting, MartijnVdS - I'd like to know more
User14: User35 tweakers.net/pricewatch
User35: thanks
User14: Lots of online computer (parts) stores register their prices with that site
User14: and there are store reviews, part reviews etc.
User14: price history graphs
User14: It's more specialized than the "ciao"s of this world :)
User18: fyi, i loved little big planet 2 as a kid too :)
User18: 34
User18: er
User18: adventure
User14: User18 *adventure
User18: geeeeeez
User14: User18 if you liked lbp2 as a kid, you'd still be a kid :P
User18: MartijnVdS, some might argue that is the case
User14: oh and coolness:
User14: http://www.flickr.com/photos/treenaks/303.442.0520/in/set-72157619633943669/
User14: ^ she's releasing a new EP on Monday.. music downloadable here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jan/20/mummers-mink-hollow-road :)
User14: I love it when artists I've photographed release new music :)
User1: i wish it wasn't so easy to accidentally forkbomb yourself on ubuntu
User1: it only seems to take about 500 forks to completely cripple this machine
User31: lol
User1: is that american keyboard layout bug from the other day fixed yet?
User1: might as well install updates and reboot before i open all my windows again
User14: I think the bug is still there-ish
User14: I got asked a question about it twice today
User14: /q issyl0
User14: doh
User36: hi all
User14: \o
User27: howdy all
User27: what a day
User36: can someone help plz with regards to cd/dvd copying
User14: User36 what's the problem you're having?
User36: i had ubuntu before but for the life of me i cant remember how to do this... what im trying to do is this: ive got a film off the net and i want to put it on to dvd but i cant remember what software i used to convert it and burn it.
User36: anyone???
User36: anyone help plz?
User14: User36 try the standard "CD/DVD burning" app from the Applications menu?
User14: User36 it has a DVD Video option
User36: i dont think its that. i cant remember what i used, the actual name of te software i used to convert it and burn it lol
User14: devede? dvdauthor?
User10: User36 gnomebaker/k3b?
User36: no dont think its that
User14: tovid?
User36: k3b!!!! cheers djones! thats the one!
User14: so.. two weeks until FOSDEM, who's going? :)
 * MartijnVdS might go either Sat or Sun
User6: evening all
 * AlanBell is on a boat
User14: hi alanbell
User14: User6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfISlGLNU
User6: internet@sea hotspot
User6: youtube is blocked
User6: bit laggy satellite connection
User14: User6 "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I'm_on_a_Boat
User6: ah, the song
User6: thought it might be
User36: hi all (again) im trying to put a film onto dvd but if i remember correctly, i had to convert it forst then copy it to dvd but i dont know what software it was in the software centre i used! i remember something about k3b but i dont think it was just that to convert and burn. anyone got ideas??
User14: User36 doesn't k3b convert to mpeg2 by itself?
User36: i dont know. its been a while since i used it. i dont even remember what folder the film goes into lol
User14: User36 you could try.. it should warn if you're doing something impossible (i.e. burning mpeg-4 to a DVD-Video)
User14: I know that brasero converts automatically
User14: (that's the default DVD/CD burning tool)
User10: User36 Was the converter called "devede" to convert a video file to an iso which you can burn to dvd with k3b?
User36: thats the one! yet again djones you thought of the one i was after lol
 * MartijnVdS gives up :P
User36: i dunno what i would do without you folks here!
 * DJones has hooks in jonsaint's brain feeding me information, although MartijnVdS did mention that 20 minutes ago
User36: martijnvds i also want to thank you for looking also. :-)
User14: \o/
User36: give me credit guys, i am new to ubuntu. ive come to the dark side because im really sick of all that microsoft bull **it all the time. at least ubuntu is more easier to use.......ITS FREE!!....and theres always good people in here willing to help. no one could ask for more than that!
User6: wow, this is this ferry's first day of service
User14: User6 nice knowing you ;)
User6: biggest and most powerfulferry in the channel apparently
User36: hey alan, you on that new p&o cross channel ferry??
User14: apparently 8-)
User6: User36 yes, the Spirit of Britain
User36: whats she like?? from what i heard she can carry over 2,000 people
User6: yeah, but not that many in cluc class :)
User6: club
User6: cluck class would be for the chickens
User36: still, a very nice looking vessel.
User6: very clean and shiny, smells of new carpets
User36: give it 6 months and it will smell and run like the rest of the fleet lol
User14: aka "of sea sick"
User6: well I hope not to make a personal contribution to that
User36: the sea should be fairly calm tonight
User37: a belated xmas gift for the crew (nsfw) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6479260/PlayboyCal2011.pdf
User14: !family
User14: !ohmy
User33: Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.
User1: looks like copyright infringement too, you got a twofer
User36: im outta here folks. hope you all have a great evening......and alan, i hope the sailing goes well for you.
User6: just leaving the dock now
User37: not copyright. copyright only extends to 2010 ;P
User14: copyrights tend to be valid for long times
User14: like 70-90 years after the author dies or something
User38: anyone seen a red triangle with a ! in the top bar?
User38: hover says 'update info is old, bad connection blaa blaa
User7: sigh, still some unresolved packages
 * popey plays minecraft
 * AlanBell arrives in the UK
User23: ola
User4: looks like there are six of my own blu-ray discs that i can't rip to watch in linux, unless i buy commercial windows tools
User39: User4 Ow.
User40: User4 what do you mean? Can't you just watch them? Why do you have to rip them?
User4: terran, same difference, ultimately. ripping tools and the rather early-days libaacs rely on the same method
User40: So there's no blu-ray support in Ubuntu, even?
User4: terran, technically there's as much support as for dvd, i.e. "it's fine if the disc is not copy-protected. good luck with that"
 * czajkowski does the going to Canada dance
User9: :D
User40: jeez
User40: is there anywhere you don't go
User9: um....
User9: places that are cold
User9: :)
User9: User40 2 weeks to fosdem :D
User40: yup yup yup!
User40: gonna be fun
User40: this time I ain't a poor student living in my overdraft :D
User41: User9 Where in Canada?
User9: User41 Guelp heading over to meet 2 mates
User41: Groovy.
User9: yup
User9: so much fun
User9: went over there over a year ago for my 30th
User9: 2 weeks of fun
User4: train tix and accommodation for fosdem are booked on the company credit card ^_^
User40: old czajkowski is old :p
User9: yup
User9: :D
User9: User40 sod off you little git I am not that old!
User40: I know babe I know
 * hamitron sighs
User4: er... the largest blu-ray in my collection afaik, at 40GB of data, is a movie from 1978 with mono sound...
User23: Rollercoaster?
User31: what's the deal with oovoo?
User31: I hear it uses XMPP and some form of openness for the protocol level
User31: but is the client open?
User23: http://popeydc.dyndns.org/maps/current.png :)
User31: :D
User35: Have you been playing minecraft, popey? ;)
User31: User23 btw did you get 500 points on giffgaff
User31: I signed up so you should get some stuff
User9: User23 http://twitpic.com/3s3ww5 :D
User23: dunno
User23: haha
User23: breakfast?
User31: User23 also what memory is it you have in surplas? :P
User9: User23 oh it will be tomorrow :D
User23: one mo, I will get the link
User9: cannot wait
User23: User31 i have 4 off packs of 2x2GB, so in total 16GB
User31: speed/type?
User35: User23 I'm curious, what was the landscape picture from?
User23: DDR3 1333MHz
User23: User35 minecraft
User31: hehe
User35: oh right, I didn't know it did that, popey :)
User31: little too slow for me, I'm on 1600
User23: its for a server
User23: which doesnt need to be fast
User31: :)
User23: User35 its a program called mcmap which generates those maps based on the game world
User1: User31 you have a fast graphics card right?
User35: neat, popey - I'm almost tempted to give it a try ... not sure I can spare my weekend, though
User31: User1 gtx 570
User23: User35 http://popeydc.dyndns.org/maps/ I have it run every 10 mins to take a snapshot
User1: is that fast?
User31: User1 I'd say so, I believe it's the second fastest graphics card you can get
User1: can you try running something and tell me how long it takes?
User9: http://www.odfplugfest.co.uk/  <---- one of the projects I'm organisng at  shall mail Ubuntu uk about it
User1: you will need to install pyopencl
User23: User31 today
User31: User1 sure
User31: User23 huh?
User23: 23:55:37 < Azelphur> User1 I'd say so, I believe it's the second fastest graphics card you can get
User31: oh yea, today
User31: :)
User1: on my computer it takes about 1 minute and is not much faster than the CPU
User31: I know I'll be violated by it later.
User1: i'm just wondering if it's bad coding or just cos my card sucks
User1: anyway here it is: http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/random/cltest.tar
User1: wait
User1: that's wrong one :(
User1: fixed
User31: :P
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