User1: have there been other reports of problems with konsole in 14.10?
User2: User3 Hi
User3: hi bukai
User3: User1 not that I've heard
User2: User3 I had an idea for site on mobile
User1: me either
User2: cant we design a seperate an m.kubuntu for the same?
User2: User3 ^
User1: user in #kubuntu just did update && upgrade, and now konsole and muon won't start
User3: User2 I guess so but isn't it better to have 1 responsive website that works everywhere?
User3: User2 I seem to remember your designs works well on mobile
User2: User3 yes, I know but it's not the same
User2: users will get a different look and feel
User2: and having an m.kubuntu will solve that proble
User2: *problem
User3: well sure if you think that's best but my feeling is it's best to finish off the one website before starting on another
User2: Yes, I was planning on doing the same. I will start with it only after the current one goes live
User4: Good morning.
User5: User1 side note: the opensuse build service can build debian/ubuntu packages and that xUbuntu-14.10 is a valid repository name (OBS is a bit weird with the naming)
User4: User2 Are you aware that header images now repeat themselves along the x-axis?
User2: Yes it is supposed to do that
User4: Hmm, if I may say so it looks strange.
User2: User4 ^^
User2: User4 Did you see it earlier?
User4: User2 When it was streched you mean?
User2: Did it not do that always?
User2: yes
User4: User2 http://corellian.student.utwente.nl/files/kubu-wp.png
User2: User4 thats strange. That should never happen. Let me check out
User2: User4 how wide s your screen?
User4: User2 That is why I reported it ;)
User4: User2 It is a 2560x1440 screen.
User2: User4 ok, I will fix it, but it's tough to fix as its working fine on my screen :P
User4: User2 Set a maximum width for the content, show grey borders if that width is exceeded or something.
User2: ok will do it
User4: By the by, it is already visible on a 1920x1080 monitor.
User4: Not on a 1280x1024.
User1: thanks yofel
User1: I haven't a clue why anyone would do it that way though
User5: it's a nice way to provide debs if you usually work in the rpm world. (That doesn't usually help with the deb quality, but things work in most cases)
User6: I think the bigger advantage is that you don't have to mess with launchpad and obs
User6: unless you want to exclusively deliver to ubuntu there is really not much reason to use launchpad considering obs allows you to deliver to all the big players whereas launchpad doesn't even offer debian builds at this time :/
User1: but debian has the debs
User1: why get them from opensuse?
User1: seems nuts to me
User5: User1 no, it's like our PPA's, extra packages additional to the distribution archives
User1: ok, this guy was using it for xubuntu 14.10
User1: which is available from launchpad
User1: i dunno
User5: no, that 'x' just comes from the naming on OBS and has nothing to do with XFCE
User1: ok
User1: that was his guess
User5: and as sitter said, why use launchpad if you have an OBS account and want to provide ubuntu packages
User6: it's to denote all ubuntus which of course is sill because ubuntu already means all ubuntus ^^
User1: people do odd stuff
User1: right, but if you want xubuntu, and already have kubuntu, why not just install xubuntu-desktop
User1: seems like the long way around the barn to get it from obs
User5: er no. He doesn't want to use xubuntu, the ubuntu releases are just named xUbuntu-<version> on OBS
User5: so xUbuntu-14.10 == "utopic" on launchpad
User7: hiho
User4: Hmm, X just died on me in Vivid :(
User4: Long live tmux :D
User3: User8 what is ubuntu insider?
User8: User3 apparently it's some group of people Canonical has formed and invited to London relating Ubuntu phone stuff
User8: they just asked me to share my feelings on Ubuntu phone
User8: I am still puzzled why I was included, but meh, I'm going to ask them some tough questions in a moment if I have opportunity
User9: Howdy all
User3: hi BluesKaj
User9: Hi Riddell
User9: so what's up today...any news?
User7: User9 hiho, have you seen my message yesterday about freeze bug ?
User9: hi soee, i don't recall
User10: Hi, I am getting this "org.kde.plasma.private.kickoff is not installed" error when I click on the application launcher button on the task bar
User7: User9 21:04]  User9 there is fix released for a bug that caused system freeze, maybe it's the sam eproblem you have had: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340294
User10: Just installed the KUbuntu 15.04
User11: KDE bug 340294 in general "kwin_x11 sometimes goes up to 100% cpu usage and freezes the system" [Major,Resolved: fixed]
User3: testers needed for this langpack starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kde-l10n-es_14.12.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb
User7: User3 why it contains info about 14.12.0 and 14.12.2 http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_14.12.2_vivid.html ?
User3: User7 dunno sgclark's been doing that
User7: ah, ok, than ill ask her :)
User7: Chromium 40 released
User3: firefox has started blocking flash for me
User3: it's outdated it says
User7: http://blog.trendmicro.com/trendlabs-security-intelligence/trend-micro-discovers-new-adobe-flash-zero-day-exploit-used-in-malvertisements/
User6: qca2 rebuild broken :'<
User6: ### Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers, please read /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/README
User6: mh
User6: User3 btw, I think that actually needs whitlisting for Kubuntu Developers and Ubuntu Developers
User3: User6 what sort of whitelist?
User6: User3 in pkg-kde-tools
User6: it fails builds when the maintainer is not debian qt or debian/kde qt
User6: eh
User6: debian/kubuntu qt
User3: oh I see
User6: which still excludes kubuntu developers and ubuntu developers
User6: which are both valid maintainers on our side
User9: soee, pm ?
 * Riddell uploads kde-l10n
User3: User5 libkdegames up
User5: thanks :)
User7: is there some stream from phone conference ?
User9: my desktop crapped out with kubuntu-ci repos trying to fix the system settings freezes, so I'm just going to reinstall , too many broken packages
User7: yuo shoudn't use all packaged form kubnut-ci, just the ne with the fix :)
User9: plasma-workspace yeah , I did
User9: broke konversation and muon etc
User7: ah, ok
User7: than maybe better to try  weekly
User9: dling the daily as we speak , it's 2 weeks newer than the one i installed from previously'
User9: no biggie , still have 14.10 as a fallback
User9: btw soee there were dependency errors with the plasma-workspace install as well
User7: User9 sure, 5.2.1 will be released in 2 weeks so it will get into Vivid soon anyway
User9: so the depends basically blocked any further installation of packages from kubuntu-ci anyway
User9: so I commented the ci ppa ...maybe the the newer dialy will have the fixes
User9: or patches
User7: im also waiting for it, there is also fix for java based apps - they prevent focus on oter windows when clicked once
User7: and as main IDE is PhpStorm taht uses Jaba
User7: *Java, it sometimes a bit annoying
User7: but the most annoying bug in QT: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-40207
User9: haven't seen that
User9: bug I mean
User7: i wonder if QT 5.4 is also affected
User5: can't see I've seen any weird behavior with phpstorm so far...
User5: *can't say
User7: User5 there is, when it is launching it somehow takeover focus from other apps
User7: im on java 8 and phpstorm 8.x
User5: well, window focusing in plasma5 is completely messed up for me anyway, so maybe I just didn't notice *that*
User7: also the overal pervormance of this IDE is not so good, i wonder if switching system to ssd would help here
User6: User5 with 5.2 as well?
User12: User7 I have no idea why it is showing old stuff...
User6: I was rather under the impression that the biggest culprit WRT focus was fixed, or at least worked around
User6: used to be that half the windows didn't get focus when they should have had ^^
User12: User3 power surge killed my desktop, I am back up and running on laptop but running behind..
User5: User6 partly, but now I switched to "focus follows mouse" whichs works reasonably well. With "click to focus" I had to do things like klick on firefox twice for it to get focused
User7: User12 there are not such apackages (14.12.0) in this ppa this raport is generated for ?
User6: User7 there's no CI snapshots for vivid, there's only the actual landing PPA
User6: which is going to change sometime soon, not sure about weely, but daily probably will come
User6: User5 yeah, I had stealing prevention totally disabled
User7: User9 so you used daily for Utopic ?
User6: and the click twice thing was a bug in Qt thing, at least I recall patching something like that for netrunner
User5: ah ok
User6: so it'd be fixed with qt5.4.1
User7: User6 and 5.4.1 shudl be released this month right ?
User6: something like that, it's what we are supposed to get for 15.04 anyway
User7: how long it needs to makne its way into ubutnu ?
User9: soee, yes , it was 2 weeks old, trying to DL the latest daily , but it stalled at the last minute and failed and there's nothing wrong with my internet connection
User6: I think Mirv is on top of things there, so once it gets released we should have it in kubuntu shortly therafter
User12: User7 ah maybe the ppa needs to be cleaned out.
User7: User12 :D
User6: User12 which ppa are we talking about?
User12: ninjas
User6: oh yes
User5: wouldn't missing stuff mean not-uploaded-stuff?
User6: I was actually thinking
User5: that status page has far too much old stuff
User6: a) ninjas and kubuntu-ppa needs 3 stage PPAs for frameworks,plasma and apps one each b) before a new version is uploaded the entire stage needs to be wiped
 * yofel looks at the ppa
User6: User5 could also be rejected
User6: but judging from how many things don't upload when Riddell does a release I'd not be surprised if the script peed its pants and refused to upload something
User6: anyway
User6: </drunkenramblings>
User12: yeah my mistake, been awhile
User6: I am out for sake and stuff
User12: see yas
User5: User12 nah, uploading can get annoying. I usually don't do dput *.changes but < for file in *.changes; do dput $file; done > ^^
User5: that way it won't just abort ^^
User5: (although I then do have to read the log whether something happened)
User12: User5 oh my desktop blew up from a power surge last night quite possibly mid upload.
User5: that's... not good >.<
User12: I had to set everything up on laptop and now catching up
User12: nope
User12: ok ppa cleaned up and running the applications that were missed
User9: the daily fails to finish downloading, it's been stuck at "a few seconds remaining" for several mins now
User9: the 64 bit version
User7: User12 nice
User9: this is the second failure wityh the last hr
User9: wthin
User7: User9 but daily is for Utopic only
User9: soee,http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ ..I managed to finish it by pausing then resiuming
User7: ah image, not ppa
User9: no pps , Insaid ai was going to reinstall the daily
User9: anyway bbl
User13: I thought he was a taking a break ( according to the mailing list)
User1: ovidiu-florin: did Canonical sponsor you?
User1: or the Ubuntu supporters
User1: ok
User1: it would be good to thank them instead of Canaonical then....
User1: that money does not come from Canonical, but from the Ubuntu Community
User1: thank you, ovidiu-florin
User1: wow, nice sticker collection!
User1: and great photos
User1: :-)
User1: \o/
User1: ha, and and kfunk are badass
User1: lol, that last sign of the shuttle - little boy taking a pee
User14: what do you guys think about ubuntu phone ? have you seen teh conference etc. ?
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