User1: In #kubuntu, _2 said: ubottu is is is
User2: curious people in this world.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/78189/
User3: Do we really have no vietnamese channel?
User2: !vn
User1: Sorry, I don't know anything about vn
User2: weird...
User2: !lies
User1: Mostly just statistics and mc44, but yeah.
User2: lol
User4: we don't have a vientamese *factoid*
User4: there is a channel
User2: ot peoples may want to keep an eye on yhl - just entered
User4: wait, yhl?
User4: where did i just see this nickname now
User3: pastebin!
User4: hmmm right
User4: but no, i had this feeling i had *just* seen it
User3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/78189/ from jussi01, an hour and a quarter ago
User4: might be my brain doing tricks
User3: he just joined -ot ;)
User4: yeah but i wasn't looking at it
User3: Yeah, but your spidey sense what tingling
User4: heh maybe
User4: but i really just probably saw it on the bantracker, i likely had it in the foreground a moment before
User1: In #ubuntu, ohletmeinnowgodd said: User1 and multiverse is legal soft?
User2: grr, I just wish I could get this sipdevice working... sigh
User5: who is awake to watch bfj?
User5: <bigfuzzyjesus> User5 true, i was just wondering, and i forgot what the rules are, but you have reminded me <-- yes, he'd forgotten what they are as much as i'd forgotten who he is.
User2: Ximal: can we help you with something?
User6: Ximal, can we help you
User2: Ximal: you are likely being forwarded here from somewhere - where are you trying to join?
User6: Ximal, please state your issue.
User5: Ximal, nobody can help if you dont speak
User6: he/she is likely being forwarded from #ubuntu
User2: @bansearch Ximal
User1: Match: *!*@91.69.162.6!#ubuntu-ops by ikonia in #ubuntu on Nov 24 2008 10:50:45 (ID: 7238)
User2: well then...
User5: @btlogin
User5: Ximal, you need to respond to us, or we will not be able to help you.
User5: you need to be able to respond so we can be sure it's a good idea letting you back into #Ubuntu.
User5: i'd say it's a connection issue though...
User2: looks that way...
 * elkbuntu reheats some dal to have in tortillas.
User6: eternaljoy (hello sinners)
User5: oh dear.
User5: where was that?
User6: oops sorry in -ot
User6: Ximal, are you here to discuss your ban in #ubuntu?
User6: Ximal, if you have no business otherwise then please part this channel (see /topic re: Idling)
User6: hmm
User6: silent protest?
User3: is it a forward?
User3: Yeah.  So, just reconnecting
User6: yep
User6: but no response ricky22@example.net.
User6: shades of holymoo
User3: Nah. No response here because they're not at the keyboard
User6: but he/she is not disconnecting in -ot for example
User3: Yes he is
User6: or was not previously
User6: just that last time.
User3: Not by my lastlog
User6: nope your right
User3: although, I just /wc instead of /lastlog -clear, because I'm an idiot, so I can't show you
User6: my bad
User6: bad connection on his/her part it seems
User7: @btlogin
User5: is it just me, or is geenome starting to smell trollish?
User3: User1 tell KatieKitty about away
User8: interesting
User2: User8 Hey!!
User2: :D
User2: User8 Ximal was your forward, was he not?
User8: yes
User8: he is
User8: he has a real bad attitude
User2: User8 PM, in case you missed it again...
User2: ;)
User6: jussi01, sorry to hear about your injury
User8: I did
User6: hope it gets better soon.
User2: User6 yeah, it hurts... except after the morphine :D
User6: jussi01, get surgery?
User2: User6 well we will see tomorrow - apointment in the afternoon.
User6: best wishes jussi01
User2: thanks!
User8: may I suggest someone puts a forward on Ximal in -offtopic to ##fix_your_connection ?
User8: and I again raise the question about a lack of awake guys available for -ot
User3: yay!
User6: elkbuntu, its not just you; he is always trying to start a linux/mac/windows flamewar when he is in there
User6: geenome that is
User8: can someone please put a forward on ximal in -offtopic to ##fix_your_connetion please.
User3: User5 ^^
User5: someone might want to let geenome know that cyberstalking is way uncool
User6: its in one ear and out the other with that one
User6: he will calm down for five seconds then start up again, whatever the subject
 * elkbuntu watches topyli call him out...
User5: right, im off to bed. dont let them take advantage from that.
User9: User5 you shouldn't have told em :p
User6: <mrwes> mine are scotch, beer and wine
User6: <mrwes> actually....scotch, wine and beer in that order
User6: <mrwes> I perfer anything of the bitter family == special or extra special -- american brewers over use the cascade hop
User8: give him a nudge
User8: just remind him of the conversations that been had
User6: just waiting for the final ot
User8: change it to a forward
User6: if he claims he was helping people then he shall have to defend against the above
User8: see if he can get withit, rather than remove him
User8: no, I agree
User6: back in a few
User1: In #ubuntu, Friend2 said: User1 What is Emacs?
User8: mrwes pm'ing me like crazy saying "come on, come on, enough, come on", I think he thinks I bannd him
User8: @btlogin
User10: hrmmm
User10: ikonia, ok I get it
User6: mrwes, may we help you?
User10: nope
User6: mrwes, please note the /topic then.
User10: yes...I won't idle
User8: why does he think I banned him ?
User7: morningwalker is barely understandable with his lingo
User11: User8 because you did?
User4: User11 thank you, i was in a hard dilemma whether to say that or not...
User11: well, every question needs an answer :)
User8: User11 I didn't, I changed it to a forward
User8: from his perspective bazhang banned him
User11: ah, ok
User11: probably because you've identified yourself as an op they think you are all-powerful and would undo someone else's bans
User8: it's no problem, just odd that as soon as bazhang banned him he started pm'ing me (wasn't at desk)
User8: then he comes here thinking it's me
User4: had linuxguymarshall visited?
User8: not seen him
User7: I'm taking a break from -ot for a while
User7: mmm yoghurt
User6: mrwes, how may we help you
User10: can you please remove the block on #ubuntu for me?
User6: mrwes, you were repeatedly warned about being offtopic in there.
User10: it was a mixed bagged conversation; and I've helped several ppl too
User6: <mrwes> mine are scotch, beer and wine
User6: and this is what you followed up with after those repeated warnings.
User10: I was responding to someone else...I apologize
User8: User10 we spoke before that helping people is not a green light to move away from the guidelines
User6: <mrwes> actually....scotch, wine and beer in that order
User10: It won't happen again
User6: there is a chat channel
User8: User10 and logging in/out with one word answers ? what's that about
User6: it is called #ubuntu-offtopic
User8: logging in saying "I get it" and logging out straight away ?
User8: not really a conversation to resolve an issue ?
User6: but you repeatedly chose to completely ignore those requests mrwes
User7: if someone else is being offtopic, you guide them to -offtopic, you don't engage a conversation with them
User10: yes
User6: mrwes, by three different channel operators
User10: I wan't helping properly
User6: mrwes, with further comments such as 'Roll Tide !'
User10: I'll keep on topic
User8: User10 did we not have a conversation about this in here just a few hours earlier ?
User6: mrwes, you need a time out
User8: User10 where you agreed to keep it ontopic ?
User10: sigh...sorry Alabama was kickin' butt
User10: ok...I'll check back later
User6: mrwes,
User10: thanks for your time
User10: again I'm sorry
User6: your comments were not only offtopic
User6: but also against the coc
User10: yes?
User6: !coc
User1: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
User6: and the guidelines
User6: !guidelines
User1: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
User6: read those mrwes
User10: I understand PG13
User10: will do
User4: the CoC doesn't have to do with the channel being "PG13"
User4: not directly anyway
User10: ok
User6: the taunting answers to ignoring calls to being offtopic do though
User6: such as 'pffffffftttttttt'
User8: *sigh* after every lines
User10: I'm fully aware of exactly what I've said, and I have also apologized -- so where do we go from here?
User10: I can't sigh?
User6: we had a meeting earlier
User8: User10 you do it after most lines you type
User6: and you said you would be ontopic
User10: and that annoys you?
User6: and yet a few hours later here you are again making the same promises
User10: I failed to take you seriously and that's my fault
User8: User10 as I explained to you when I last requested you join this channel, it's a busy channel, making random noise makes it harder to follow, and isn't really the best way to take it forward
User10: I can contribute properly
User6: so you said earlier
User6: and you are saying so now as well.
User10: Ok...so I'm banned for life now?
User6: why should we believe you this time?
User8: User10 when I requested you came here for an explination as to why you where being requested to stay on topic - you didn't take me seriously ?
User4: more to the point, why should we take *you* seriously if you fail to take *us* seriously
User6: mrwes> sigh...sorry Alabama was kickin' butt
User10: stupid I know
User6: you are still defending being offtopic?
User10: no
User6: that was said just a couple of minutes ago.
User8: User10 what was with the one line comments, join say "I get it" then quit straight away ?
User8: User10 what was that about ?
User10: I now understand this is a help channel and not a normal IRC environment
User8: actually - I know what they are about, I apologise, I shouldn't ask
User8: I see no reason to allow you back into #ubuntu at the moment as you don't seem to be able to repond to requests properly and you don't seem to be able to discuss things properly
User10: I'm asking for another chance to contribute
User8: I'll put my cards on the table right now
User4: i've got four aces
 * LjL blinks
 * Myrtti has organ donor card, visa card, SSI card, library card and package of purse-sized emery boards.
User7: what did I win?
 * Myrtti runs
User6: yoghurt!
User7: s/visa/credit card/
User4: User7 a pancreas
User8: I'll leave you guys to it.
User10: I will only speak in the channel when I can contribute or have a legitimate question; no other added comments will come from me
 * Myrtti gives ikonia a Finnish Christmas gingerbread cookie
User7: don't be sad, teddybear
User6: ikonia, your call
User10: no silly comments, nor will I mess with the bot
User10: I can be very professional
User8: User6 for me no, as I think a.) we took the time to speak to him nicley in here which he didn't take seriously b.) he was warned multple times in the channel and ignored it c.) he keeps joining/parting saying "ok I get it" rather than discuss it
User10: and help prove the future of Ubuntu
User8: I don't think that shows "he has got it"
User6: ikonia, point taken
User6: mrwes, there is a channel for silly comments
User6: mrwes, and of course this is not a perma-ban
User10: I am discussing it now
User8: @btlogin
User10: that's your last word on this issue?
User6: mrwes, it is called #ubuntu-offtopic
User10: yes, I will keep those comments in that channel
User10: I'm asking for another chance to proof that
User8: I see no reason at this time
User4: User10 look, you've been banned *today*
User10: er prove even
User10: ok...I'll leave it at that
User6: just an hour or two ago
User4: i've seen several people who, when confronted with a longer-than-one-day ban, started asking whether they'd be "banned for life"
User4: that kind of black-and-white thinking never did anyone any good
User10: understoo
User10: d
User6: although more than one day can feel like life
User4: so go read the CoC, the guidelines, and think through how a channel like #ubuntu can keep working in a satisfying equilibrium
User4: !etiquette > mrwes    (mrwes, see the private message from ubottu)  there's quite some reading to be done here
User10: Ok...I'll do that and check back in a couple of days --
User10: I understand the etiquette
User10: LjL, thanks
User4: User10 you do? 15 minutes ago you appeared to not know what the CoC was, yet you couldn't have read it in the time it took you to reply
User10: I'm on those web pages now
User10: I'll read them thrououghly
User4: good. take the next step, try not just to *understand what they're saying*, but to *understand why each exists*, and *understand why they exist as a system*
User4: when you'll feel like you've understood that thoroughly, i think it might be time to come back here
User10: Ok
User4: which of course could be easily read as "never"
User4: @mark #ubuntu-ops mrwes
User1: The operation succeeded.
User6: ikonia, my apologies; should have let you handle it
User6: just did not like the way he was so taunting in all his responses to being offtopic
User8: ?
User8: User6 not at all, I only changed your ban to a forward as he sent me the message saying "come on lets talk"
User8: I didnt want to talk in private, hence the forward
User6: ikonia, okay thanks
User1: FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)
User4: my fault for hooking too hurriedly
User6: sp0rtily needs to be removed from -ot
User6: stalking is not funny or nice
 * Myrtti considers
User6: this is the same fellow (z, sporty, several other nicks) who has a history of this
User7: snuxoll did mention that he's ban evading earlier, but as he has been on the channel for quite some time now, I need a new reason to kick him from the channel
User12: User6 z, or z_ or something else?
User12: User7 if he's evading a ban he's evading a ban.
User6: PriceChild, a couple of months ago
User12: User6 which?
User6: he was harassing / stalking another user who subsequently fled ( a female user also)
User7: Lynoure?
User6: yep
User12: no, which nick
User6: PriceChild, he has used close to 6 nicks
User6: cannot remember them all. sporty, z, and several others
User12: which was he identified to?
User6: checking my logs now. he was often talking about zigmund freid's psychological sublimation
User4: User6 how do you know it's him? he's under something that looks like a shell host right now
User6: LjL, he said earlier that sporty, z were earlier nicks of his, plus his way of talking
User4: bazhang, PriceChild, User7 and my logs also confirm that (if he's actually sporty/z_, but he *said* he is) the ban still stands and he's ban evading. also, second shell host he uses. anything against banning him?
User4: i don't care how long he's been in the channel, it takes time to track a ban evader
User7: I'm not touching the issue with a ten feet pole
User7: I'm fine with whatever you decide
User6: he should have banned for what he said just in the last few minutes imo
User6: earlier was much worse
User4: he's gone
User6: still digging through 7 months of logs
User6: ubuntu was another name
User4: User6 well, i've seen enough to know with enough certainly that he's the same person, that's good enough for a ban
User6: LjL, okay
User4: User6 that doesn't mean you should stop digging, mind, more evidence is more evidence ;)
User6: still looking :)
User6: nearly crashed my text editor though
User4: there's currently two bans on him (three including the latest)
User4: z_!*@* and *!?=ricky22@example.net.*
User6: he'll be back
User12: right so z_ not z
User6: this was not asus-tek
User4: no i don't think it was asus-tek
User4: he just had asus in the ident
User6: he is all 'humm okey'
User4: User12 yes, i only have z_ not z
User6: and not creepy stalkery
User4: was asus-tek bad also?
User6: just annoying to some
User6: one ident I've dug up so far is ilya
User4: User6 i have ilyaglkn
User6: LjL, that one as well
User4: and Comics91. he was also "Comics_" at one time, wasn't he?
User6: also ilyag
User4: or something
User4: yes he was according to a bt comment
User6: he has been around a long time so would not surprise
User4: well, just comics without the underscore
User6: @bansearch sporty
User1: No matches found for ricky22@example.net in any channel
User4: User6 no matches found, but he knows the hostmask? nice
User4: User6 anyway, he was never banned as sporty according to my logs either
User6: that was way back in May LjL ; still reading through (you are right I suspect)
User6: ricky22@example.net
User4: User6 check BT for what i've found so far
User6: okay
User4: User6 oh, other evidence
User4: my /whowas sp0rtily has
User6: sporty (ricky22@example.net (immediately above nick was 'ubuntu'
User4: [18:20:05] [314] sp0rtily n=mega 91.69.162.6 * purple
User4: [18:20:05] [Whois] sp0rtily is online via irc.freenode.net (Sun Nov 30 17:06:30 2008)
User4: User6 fwiw, "offoffoff" is currently online from the same serverloft host, and in #ubuntu-ru
User4: but is identified and all so probably not him
User6: yeah and his english is terrible
User7: does [19:32] [freenode] ~~~LeviTheSmith  [ricky22@example.net]
User7: match z/sporty?
User6: syntax seems wrong
User6: [Neo_The_User] (ricky22@example.net): Thomas A. Anderson
User6: he is almost always offtopic; this time he seems to have listened to reason and headed to -ot
User12: isn't that last question a support question? :/
User6: modifying the source?
User6: in #ubuntu? gpl or not?
User1: In #ubuntu, Friend2 said: !GNU Emacs is an extensible, customizable text editorâand more. At its core is an interpreter for Emacs Lisp, a dialect of the Lisp programming language with extensions to support text editing.
User6: <jimbo> how come my cdrom isn't reading my floppy? in #kubuntu
User1: In ubottu, dee890 said: so here is my problem I boot ubuntu in the kernal generic 2.6.27-9 and the system load screen freezes, I try the recovery mode for the same kernal and I freezes at IO port. When I run the Kernal 2.6.24-22 generic it runs fine and boots fine. Has anyone heard of this?
User13: Good evening, morning, or afternoon...
User13: Seeker`: Myrtti tells me "Moin" as well....
User7: moin
User13: User7 Moin :)
User2: Hei all!
User2: User13 that works also^^
User14: moin moin
User14: tai vaikka "tere"
 * genii hands out coffees to all
User2: Seeker`: nice, what are you doing now?
 * Myrtti pokes jussi01 
 * jussi01 eye Myrtti and wonders what the poke was for?
User7: a Christmasy poke
User7: nini folks
User8: I'm out too, night
User4: hmmm, how come 1) i have had al1 on highlight, for a long time 2) he's being silly 3) he talks like he never used an ubuntu live cd before
User3: User4 bantracker shows quite a bit
User4: User3 yes, i'm looking. but then it seems i have him on highlight because he "probably wasn't" the same person who was banned by realname and so i had removed that ban
User4: at any rate, he's already flooded the channel twice today, if nothing else, the second time in a very suspicious way too
User4: but right now i'll look up J172, that one also seems weird
User13: <Konsole> Dont be silly... wrap your willy
User13: <Konsole> Dont be silly... wrap your willy
User13: Bah
User13: Anyhow, in #u
User3: Mhmm
User1: In ubottu, ardchoille said: player is Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
User3: !player
User1: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
User3: !player =~ s/XMMS/XMMS2/
User1: Nothing changed there
User3: !player
User1: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
User3: !-player
User1: player is <alias> players - added by apokryphos on 2007-02-26 17:14:50
User3: !players =~ s/XMMS/XMMS2/
User1: I'll remember that Flannel
 * genii-around sips and thinks about Quassel client 6
User15: genii-around: yeps!
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