User1: hy everybody
User1: just upgraded to the ppa version of kde. and finally everything is working again on my machine :)
User2: HELP LOL....what do i save a photoshop file as so i can use it as a web tempplate....i used to do this a year ago and completely forgot
User3: markus_ 4.4.2?
User1: User3 Thought its 4.4.3? Where can I see that again?
User3: about kde
User3: )
User3: in help
User1: Plattform-Version 4.4.3 (KDE 4.4.3)
User3: :/
User3: what ubuntu&
User3: ?
User3: version*?
User1: Ubuntu 10.04. Started with Gnome this time
User1: Used it for a week but has too many bugs for me
User1: and all the programs are inferior!
User3: then maybe
User3: I have 9.10
User1: I installed the ppa version
User3: did upgrade and it became 4.4.2
User1: I added this: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa. and then upgraded
User1: Because before just nothing was working on my machine
User3: me too)
User1: And just installed kdropbox. Works pretty good already. Only one thing am I missing. I want to sync my notes (like with knotes) to the cloud. But its not possible yet (guess?) So I still use tomboy
User4: hello! I'm having trouble with wireless on my laptop. I've been using it nicely for weeks but today I can't connect to internet and when I click knetworkmanager, it says "network management disabled"
User5: is the ati driver working yet on 10.4
User6: hola
User4: please help! I'm kind of lost around here with this network thing
User5: what network thing?
User4: When I click on knetworkmanager
User4: on systray,
User4: it says network management disabled
User4: and I can't do anything else
User5: ok
User5: can you click on enable wireless
User7: Hi. I just updated to 10.04 and I don't have keyboard on X, only the console, how do I fix it?
User8: anyone available to answer how to rollback... I think i f00ked something up, and I would like to rollback to a previous version
User5: wow these things are way beyond me
User4: snarkfish no I can't
User4: there's nothing to click on snarkfish
User5: you cant click on manage networks?
User4: snarkfish wow, figured out!
User4: the computer froze after a suspend
User4: I hard rebooted it
User4: then network-manager didn't bring devices up
User4: found solution on net.. But thanks anyway!
User4: g'night everyone
User9: hi...what's the dev package for kdeutils?
User10: User9 kdeutils-dev
User9: User10 doesn't exist
User11: anyone able to help with rolling back
User11: used to be able to do on boot up, but now i don' see the option
User10: User9 there is no -dev package then
User12: what's wrong whenI have to log into my hard drive, before I can see my /home directory?
User13: what?
User3: )
User12: I boot up, and log in. Then I can't see my desktop image, so I goto dolphin and click on my drive. Then it makes me login
User12: then I can see all my folders.  shouldn't this happen automatically?
User13: well
User13: if you can run dolphin, obviosly / is mounted
User12: but /home won't mount.
User12: till I login
User13: unless, we're talking about another partition you wish to look at and isn't mounted and you require dolphin to mount it
User13: well
User13: $HOME is just a folder, what you mount is the partition for '/'
User13: and your system wouldn't give you a login screen or anything without mounting it, so it's mounted
User12: something's amiss
User13: I think so, I gather you haven't explained your case clear enough for us
User13: but doesn't seem to me it has anything to do with mounting
User12: but until I click on my hard drive in using Dolphin, and it makes me log in, I can't see my /home directory.
User12: Once I login, it lets me see my /home, and all the subfolders there, and all is well.
User14: is there some way to add an entry to the KNR menu?
User12: Just wish it would do it automatically
User15: I have never used an IRC before, do I just jump in with a question?
User14: User15 in this support channel, yes :-)
User13: User12   once you login, all you get is the desktop :|
User13: !ask | avanesov
User16: User15 Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
User17: User12 if you are able to use dolphin..it means you are logged in
User15: Ok, well...I am running Kubuntu 10.04 and have noticed that any app that uses sound tends to "take over" the sound card and nothing else can use it...is this working as intended or do I have a configuration problem?
User15: <<< slow typer
User13: User15     I think it has to do with drivers, I got that a couple of times only, when running xine-ui, when I was playing a dvd, other apps wouldn't playback, tillI closed it, it didn't when I played a .wmv or some other video type :|
User13: User12      but if you can run dolphin, it means the '/' is mounted, as I said, it sounds to me you haven't explained clear enough, and I haven't stumbled upon that I guess
User15: Mine does it anytime I have a video player, game or even Windows running in VB. Xine is my backend. Can you give me a starting point for resolving this? Did you fix yours?
User13: well
User13: it hasn't done it,   it seems to be a Xine issue I'd think, xine is also my backend for dvd
User18: hello
User18: please, is possible to load isolinux from grub?
User13: User15     it may be the xine-ui version I have, I'd think, it didn't use to do it, then again, it doesn't always, seem like only when I'm playing a dvd
User13: User18   w0t?
User15: Is it difficult or buggy to install/try another backend?
User13: well
User18: User13 i want to boot isolinux menus etc... via grub
User13: you can always try say.... playing something in dragonfly, and see if the audio gets locked up
User13: User15    for me as I said, it only happens when I'm playing a dvd in xine-ui, and usually if the app was started AFTER xine-ui was launched, otherwise, I can play flash videos and music or see a .wmv or .flv in xine-ui just fine
User13: User18   I guess I'm not too familiar with that one :{
User15: kk, ill do some digging then. Thanks
User19: hi all
User19: downloaded kubuntu and i'm wondering whether there's a way to improve the usability of user switching?
User20: Hello
User21: æäººä¹
User22: hello people
User23: hello, can I install kubuntu using wubi? I don't have the disc at the moment, can I get a copy of wubi.exe and install kubuntu via internet?
User24: hi I have a q
User24: but nobody in ubuntu is available
User25: is katapult still around?
User26: Hello,ibus works fine with apps that come with kubuntu,but do not suppport any apps installed manully,why?
 * ForgeAus shrugs
User27: how can i find out, what qt version a specific package was compiled?.. package: kdenlive
User28: hey guys... I have 2 machines here one with lucid / gnome  the other with  lucid / gnome/ kde4
User28: when I try to vnc into the kubuntu system running kde  I cant get in when I switch DE's on that machine I can get in..any suggestions?
User29: hi all, i have a noob question - in ubuntu you have synatic manager, but what is the defualt package manager in kubuntu?
User25: kpackagekit its called
User29: ok thanks
User30: whats is going on while the "K" icon in the logon proces is show ? it very slow at this point, about 20s ...
User31: i got a printer at a windows xp machine and just set it up as network printer so that i can also print from my kubuntu lucid laptop over network. it works, but when i print from kubuntu, some lines look a bit weird (bit like cursive). printing from the windows machine is fine. is there anything i can do about that? have no clue atm
User32: anyone there
User25: nno???
User33: hi
User33: i am here...
User32: User25 i want to get bass redirected to subwoofer
User32: i am having creative live 24 bit soundcard
User25: phoenix I really dn't know much about audo like that, does that card have JACK (so you can specify what port does what function?
User25: really its about the .1 part of 5.1 isn't it? maybe try and google terms like "linux subwoofer"?
User32: User25 one moment
User25: (sorry about my typing, this notebook drops letters sometimes)
User32: User25 i tried everything but not no use
User25: in that case I dont think I'm of any help for you personally
User25: but there are often people on this channel who know far more about linux than I do
User32: User25 are you using 5.1
User25: no
User32: User25 i dont know anthing about the audio system in kubuntu, is kubuntu using alsa or phonon
User25: !Phonon
User25: hmmm the bot doesn't know either it seems
User25: I think Phonon is a KDE4 component
User25: Alsa is a linux sound system I'm not certain its an either/or proposition here
User32: User25 have used windows
User32: User25 have you used windows
User25: yes
User25: looks like I was right about alsa + phonon
User25: phonon uses alsa like a backend
User10: by default Phonon used xine as a backend, which uses alsa by default
User10: it can use "something else", depending on what phonon plugins you have. for instance pulseaudio, gstreamer, or even vlc
User32: User10 i am using xine
User32: User10 i tried configuring the alsa setting to route the low frequency signals to the subwoofer , but it didnot work
User32: User10 is there a plugin or any media player that would do this job
User10: User32 I'm not sure, I only have 2 speakers
User10: !sound
User16: If you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
User10: check those links
User32: User10 ok
User34: hi, from time to time I get logged out without doing anything. this is really annoying but I haven't found anything about such behavior/bug on the web. Any ideas?
User34: I think it occurs since 10.04 or mabye a bit later
User14: is there some way to add an entry to the KNR menu?
User35: help
User35: i cant install ubuntu on my laptop
User35: pls help
User25: how do I manually unlock package manager?
User25: (kpackagekit complains it is waiting for package lock
User25: (sorry package manager lock)
User14: User25 there's a lock file u need to delete
User14: User25 maybe /var/lib/dpkg/lock
User31: try using sudo apt-get update, the error message will show the file amichair mentioned, in case he isn'/t right anyway ;)
User14: good idea :-)
User25: hehe its ok already fixed but thx :)
User28: hey guys  this  "Ublog" on the desktop...if I close that how to open again?
User25: uh which packages take preference when pinned the ones with priority 600 or 700?
User36: cos rightlick on desktop - add widget
User36: microblogging
User36: coz
User37: hi guys. I had an accident and my physio told me I MUST stand up for 5 minutes and do some exercises every 30 minutes. Ubuntu in various flavours is my business desktop. Do you know of a software that allows me to lock the desktop for 5 minutes every 30 minutes, and pop out a windows telling me to do my exercises? Someone on ubuntu suggested me the "typing break " property of gnome control centre. What about when I am using kubuntu? Is there anything
User37: equivalent? We run different flavours.
User28: tom_,  ah cool thanks :)
User14: User37 I use rsibreak, it's just for that
User22: dfdf - well?
User14: User37 it's a kde tool, has configurable short/long breaks, statistics, various levels of annoyingness (which are good for you :-) ) etc.
User37: User14 thanks a lot
User14: User37 hope it helps you recover :-)
User37: User14 hope so, for me is my back instead of my wrist .... :) .... thanks for your help!
User16: This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type Â« /msg ubottu !bot Â»
User38: Hello, good morning!
User38: Got a trouble here with Kubuntu 10.04. I have upgraded from Ubuntu 9.10. Everything works fine at Gnome desktop, but Kubuntu pmartinez@example.net. Any help?
User38: Btw: this happens at an Accer Netbook, Mem: 1GB, two atom processor, 1,6 GHz, hd: 127,6 free space
User39: i upgraded to kubuntu 10.04 now i have no sound, alsamixer is running all volume up but no sound please help
User33: hello everyone,I just installed kbuntu10.04
User33: I think it's too beautiful
User38: Got a trouble here with Kubuntu 10.04. I have upgraded from Ubuntu 9.10. Everything works fine at Gnome desktop, but Kubuntu pmartinez@example.net. Any help?
User40: hi guys, what's the name of the little message notification applet in kubuntu that stays in the system tray?
User41: User40 the message indicator?
User40: User41 yes, is that the name of the plasma widget? I  have here (arch linux) one that is called "incoming messages", but it's not the same one
User41: User40 yes, its "Message Indicator"
User42: Hi all
User41: !info plasma-widget-message-indicator | sachael
User16: User40 plasma-widget-message-indicator (source: plasma-widget-message-indicator): A Plasma applet to display message indicators. In component main, is extra. Version 0.5.4-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 32 kB, installed size 164 kB
User42: are we allowed to ask for help here about kubuntu 10.4 problems
User42: ?
User41: User42 yes
User42: thank you jussi
User38: User42 me too! kubuntu crashes at startup, any help?
User41: User38 what exactly happens?
User38: User41 I have upgraded my netbook acer, to ubuntu 10.04. Everything is ok at Gnome desktop, but at kde at the startup, system fails. I get a black screen, as after seconds a bug report form.
User42: my problem is : i read the entire faq and pages related to wifi configuration. just after the installation, my wpa2 wifi network was detected but i couldn't connect to it
User41: User38 which package is the bug report for for?
User42: it kept asking me for my wpa key
User14: User38 that might be the same problem I had, maybe try reinstalling plasma-desktop?
User38: User41 Just a little bit, I will reproduce it...
User42: my dhcp didn't want to give me an ip adress
User42: so i changed my /etc/network/interfaces
User38: User14  Ok but how can I?
User14: User38 "sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop" in terminal. I don't remember if I had to add plasma-workspace as well, but it shouldn't hurt
User42: now, i still don't get an ip adress, moreover, my network isn't seen anymore
User38: User41 Knotify
User38: knotify4, segmentation fault
User41: hrm
 * jussi honestly doesnt know the answer to that one
User38: User14 ok, i will do it...
User42: could anyone please help me configuring my wifi card ?
User42: i followed all FAQs, instructions in all the pages i found
User38: User14 it says that could not find plasma-desktop package...
User14: User38 now that's strange... does everything look ok in your software sources?
User38: yes, i made an automatic upgrading
User14: User38 maybe run "sudo apt-get update" first just in case?
User14: User38 maybe also try kubuntu-netbook and/or plasma-netbook
User43: does anybody here know how to do a report in kexi?
User43: meh, i'll ask in #ubuntu
User38: User14 thank you, it's working now...
User14: User38 you're welcome, but what did u do?
User38: 'sudo apt-get update' and then 'sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop
User38: I think kubuntu-netbook would be better...
User44: hi there
User44: just testing..
User38: User14 ok, gtg. Thank you, once more!
User14: User38 cool, and if it currently boots into regular desktop u can install plasma-netbook to get the netbook interface
User45: hi! I've just installed kubuntu 10.04 on my santa rosa macbook, strangely I cannot get a network connection, not even over ethernet, though eth0 shows up via ifconfig
User45: knetworkmangager does not show any connections
User45: sorry, nevermind
User14: inspire`: enable the partners repository and install your favorite sun-java6-* packages (assuming you want Sun's)
User14: inspire`: great :-)
User14: inspire`: sudo apt-get remove XX
User45: inspire`: or did you mean files?
User46: inspire`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
User14: inspire`: good luck :-)
User47: inspire`: you can use tab complete to complete most of the commands ;)
User14: User45 good point, I should ask more before suggesting solutions. Just got lucky this time :-)
User14: as in life - the last 1% always takes longest
User48: I'm trying to create an extended partition in unallocated space, but gparted or kde's partitionmanager won't allow extended. the options are greyed out. only primary is possible. what's going on?
User47: inspire`: how many extended partitions do you have?
User47: User48 ^^
User47: inspire`: ignore that :P
User48: none, I want to create one
User48: I have 2 primaries and swap
User47: User48 weird.. well theres a limit on the extended partitions i think.. but 0 aint it :P
User48: I deleted the swap (since it's easy to recreate) but still no extended allowed
User47: User48 no idea sorry :(
User47: User48 oh btw i would recommend a live gparted cd for partitioning a HD... of course if this is a external drive then it wont matter
 * inspire` gets a handle of aptitude
User47: inspire`: aptitude has no handle :D
User48: User47 I'm using live gparted. I notice in fdisk the disk is shown as GPT. I've never seen that. lucid created the partitions for me
User47: hmm.. ive never heard of GPT before too
User49: Does there exist a nokia pc suite equivalent for kubuntu?
User47: User49 no i dont think so...
User47: User49 what do you want to accomplish btw?
User50: I have to login as root, but I cant access my other user files from there.  how can I?
User49: User47 I want to go online on kubuntu
User49: User47 I now have to restart and switch back to windows just to check my  mail!!!
User47: User49 ah... that can be handled by network manager i think
User49: User47 tried that doesn help can u pass me a link where the procedure is explained a bit more elaboaretly...
User49: User47 thanks much appreciated i am new to kubuntu
User47: User49 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G/Probing
User47: User49 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221863
User49: User47Thanks a ton...
User47: User49 no problem
User23: can I get wifi connected before rc.local is executed? thanks
User51: hi can anyone link me a tutorial that shows me how to synchronize a nokia phone with contact? thanks! :)
User47: User51 afaik you can do that with akonadi.. plenty of blogs if you google a bit
User47: User51 http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=13025
User47: is one of the many..
User51: thanks shadeslayer ... I was looking in the wrong way! I was "googling"   nokia opensync kontact
User52: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhReQgyprLg
User10: thanks for the spam
User47: User10 spam?
User10: the youtube link
User47: User10 its for KDM face authentication...
User47: User10 well yeah i should have been posted in OT...
User10: exactly
User47: *it
User53: hi, I've installed a radeon 2400pro board, and now the system does not shut down anymore. I've tried a acpi=force with no luck. Any tip?
User53: reboot works well instead
User53: btw, squid process is killed and restarted continuously.. very strange
User54: hi
User55: connect
User56: hy every body
User56: :D
User57: anyone here know i might get my wifi going ive tryed everything i can at this point
User57: anyone here know how i might get my wifi going ive tryed everything i can at this point
User58: goodtime, everything doesn't tell us much , pls give more details
User57: hang on
User57: on the phone
User59: join #wilug
User59: Oops, didnt mean that.
User57: its ok
User60: Hello
User60: Has someone used Wt in the past?
User61: Hi! I just intalled the new Kubuntu. I want to decrease the screen resolution to 1024x768 in X so that everything becomes a little bigger.
User61: But sadly  /usr/bin/xrandr -s 1280x1024  doesn't work.
User61: But sadly  /usr/bin/xrandr -s 1280x1024  doesn't work.
User61: sorry
User61: ok forget about it. :D
User62: Hi. Since I've upgraded to 10.04, OpenOffice keeps crashing, again and again. I've also tried doin' a fresh install, keeping same issue. May someone help me?
User60: Children of Bodom: The same happens to you using the live cd?
User60: (i mean, the cd which you use to install Kubuntu)
User62: User60 :) I've not tried with live CD, why it should give a different behaviour?
User60: Bodom: I mean, Openoffice should work ok with the live cd, if it wouldn't, then we would suspect of the hardware
User62: User60 On my laptop, I have exactly same issue
User63: it is best to start it from konsole so it can output what errors it is encountering
User63: then you might have a clue as to how to fix it
User64: when kde 4.5 will be available in kubuntu beta backports?
User62: User63 Ok, I'm gonna try
User65: Bodom: apart from this, your Kubuntu cd can be corrupted, and so everything you install with it...
User62: User65 Ok, I'm gonna md5sum it
User62: 5b256bf515ae49749ac03a1af9d407c0  /dev/scd0 - md5sum looks fine
User66: I need to reinstall windows on my disk. about 80% of the disk is dedicated to Kubuntu. I know when I reinstall Windows, it is going to destroy the MBR. what is the easiest and safest way to recover from this? has this been automated yet specifically for Kubuntu?
User67: i would use the kubuntu cd as live cd, mount the root drive somewhere and then do a grub-install to it
User67: like sudo mount /dev/sdax, sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
User66: User67 it leaves me wondering how common this scenario is, it never makes it into the live cd as a real quick option
User67: well, i can'/t say how common it is, however i already needed it that often that i wrote it down to a piece of paper ;)
User66: yeah, I can do all that no problem, haven't really checked the latest live cd out
User66: was sort of just hoping I see an option on the live cd "restore MBR"
User66: im just being lazy :/
User67: well typing two lines into konsole isn'/t that much work, is it? ^^
User66: nah, the disc insert/removal waiting commands, etc sort of too much when im feeling lazy
User66: well, im just backing up my disk right now. when this is over, I'll go install Windows
User57: windows will break in 5 days top
User47: hehe
User68: only if you're an idiot
User57: seen it happen to the best befor
User57: anyhow i ran it ok for 2 years but i hardend it good
User57: i just dont like it anymore
User69: im trying to create script to save first result with find as source_filename, but find wont stop on first hit. It will save all of the zip files to source_filename, How to stop find after first hit? My script
User69: for source_filename in $(
User69: find '/home/user/packs' -type f -iname '*zip'
User69: )
User46: User69 Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
User63: User69 read   man find   it will give a clue
User69: i red it but it doesn't have command to stop on first hit
User63: User69 that answers the question then
User69: hmm, how could i search for filename in console and save it as modifier?
User69: and break on first hit of course
User70: hey
User63: User69 grep has an option for that iirc - I would do something like   ls /dir | grep -? word
User70: ive extended screen to my other lcd by usin nvidia xserver twinview, but i cant switch it back to normal
User70: i wanna disable the feature to extended my display
User70: but i cant find it anywhere
User63: User70 I don't use nvidia here but isn't there some docs for it in /usr/share?
User63: User70 I don't use nvidia here but isn't there some docs for it in /usr/share/doc?
User70: User63  well im tryin to find the solution...but nothin yet
User71: hi peeps
User71: i wanted to know how can i stop kdm? i use ctrl+alt+f1 but it is no use
User71: i get only a blinking cursor
User71: not a real console
User47: User71 uh.. what about ctrl+alt+f2?
User71: User47 the same cae
User71: case
User47: User71 hmm.. 10.04 with nvidia drivers?
User71: User47 yes
User47: User71 and by anychance have you edited your grub config?
User71: User47 i downloaded it from nvidia but i need to stop kdm
User47: User71 ah thats where your wrong :)
User71: User47 no what should i change there?
User47: User71 install the official binaries.. much simpler
User71: User47 apt-get install ....?
User47: User71 sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
User47: User71 yes :)
User71: lol ok
User47: !info nvidia-current | tux_
User16: User71 nvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library. In component restricted, is optional. Version 195.36.15-0ubuntu3 (lucid), package size 22737 kB, installed size 70816 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
User47: User71 and they arent even outdated.. the latest ones :P
User71: no it isn't that
User71: :)
User71: nvidia-current-modaliases?
User47: User71 uh what>
User71: cant find nvidia-current
User71: only nvidia-current-modaliases
User47: User71 do you have restricted drivers repo enabled?
User71: but what should i have edited in grub?
User71: let me in
User47: User71 oh its a small fix nvidia users use to get a beautiful bootsplash..
User71: sorry wrong windows
User71: uhm yes i have
User47: but that messes up with the tty's
User47: User71 weird.. press alt+f2 and type jockey-kde
User71: nothing
User71: User47 but no problem
User71: im getting the nvidia-current drivers
User71: :)\
User47: :)
User71: User47 i have to reastart now right?
User47: User71 after installing the driver yes,but wait a sec
User71: well after the installation?
User71: ok?
User47: User71 just check that you have a xconfig in /etc/X11/
User47: itll be named /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
User47: um.. not the .backup part :P
User71: shadeslater:please stand by
User47: that way you wont end up in a tty :P
User71: User47 that is wierd
User71: there is no xorg.conf
User71: or .backup
User47: User71 just what i thought :)
User71: :(
User71: what is to do?
User47: User71 open a terminal and type : sudo nvidia-xconfig
User71: User47 ok now i have a xorg.confg
User71: User47 anything else i have to do?
User47: User71 that should be about it
User71: so ill restart now?
User47: User71 well technically
User47: User71 you could just logout and press alt+E
User71: ok
User47: but im not sure if that will work or not
User71: User47 ok im back but i a funny resolution now :)
User47: User71 ok youll have to edit your xorg.conf by hand then and add the res
User71: User47true but in what section exactly?
User71: User47 i have the screen section
User72: Hi
User47: !res | tux_
User16: User71 The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type Â« sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart Â» in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
User73: Hi there guys ;)
User73: What do i need  to install to get h.264 render possibility in KDEnlive?
User47: User73 chromium :P
User47: oh in kdenlive?
User47: dunno :P
User73: shadeslayer yes ;P
User47: User73 http://www.kdenlive.org/forum/rendering-problems-h264
User47: found this via google
User71: brb
User74: if I want to use a whole drive as one volume, do I still need make one partition using the whole disk space ?
User75: this business of having windows expand if they are dragged tp the top of the screen has got to go... does anyone know how to stop this
User62: How to clear dolphin and other kde applications' cache?
User53: anyone that can't shutdown anymore? If I shutdown at the login window stage, it works. If I do once logged, it does not shut down complitely!
User67: um, there's no way pirating legally
User53: henkka-: if you want slavery, you have to pay :)
 * markit thinks there are strange people out there
User53: henkka-: probably, but does it worth a lot :)
User53: henkka-: well, if you pay me 1.000 bucks maybe I could conside restart suffering from Windows pains
User53: but only for limited time
User53: henkka-: mmmm don't know, I find XP very hard and annoying
User53: well, once I tried to connect my usb keyboard to usb port of the monitor, XP asked for a driver, then did not reboot anymore
User3: henkka-, what`s better with windows?
User53: henkka-: you don't have to use software that is made for windows, think different! :)
User3: henkka-, exactly the same with ubuntu
User53: if you bring my children, that have not been exposed to M$ crap, in front of XP, they find it very ugly and not functional
User3: henkka-, for example?
User53: henkka-: so go for windows, 100$ is not that much for such a heaven :)
User53: if is money that motivates you, you are on the wrong path with GNU/Linux
User53: you are welcome :)
User3: henkka-, what software that you use in windows does not exist in linux?
User53: using GNU/Linux you are doing yourself a favour, not to me
User53: User3 well, we all know that a lot of sw is only for M$empire world
User53: GNU/Linux is not a M$crap replacer, thanks God
User53: henkka-: you are :) you have been transformed in a trained monkey of the M$ world
User53: you are doomed :)
User3: markit, but WHO needs all this software?
User53: henkka-: my experience is that I'm a lot happy with GNU/Linux, I feel so happy with it, it's stimulating, is not against me and my will
User53: and if something is wrong, I can fix it and learn
User53: with XP was only a matter of reformatting
User3: henkka-, you all talk about "you can use on windows a lot of software", but WHO does it need and WHAT software?))
User76: hey guys is anyone here know what program matt farrel use in die hard 4
User53: henkka-: you will, if you insist and change your habbits
User76: hey guys is anyone here know what chat program matt farrel use in die hard 4
User77: henkka-: at least no one force you to use linux
User76: test
User53: User76 I've no idea
User78: User76 do you have a screenshot?
User76: yes  ihave,how to show it here?
User78: !imagebin | chandrariri
User16: User76 Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://tinyurl.com/imagebin and post a link to it.
User53: henkka-: frankly, I can understand your frustration
User53: henkka-: but you have to think "in the long term"
User53: and try to force you to the new environment, with it's different way of work
User53: belive me, once you have done the "jump", you will never look back
User53: if you just "try", if you think that all is wrong at the first problem, you will fail
User77: henkka-: could i ask how old are you ?
User78: henkka-: why not go with one of the LTS releases, they should be pretty stable after a while
User53: henkka-: pirated copies of windows are everywhere, M$ is happy they use and be dependent from it's sofware
User53: henkka-: what are you doing so particular that a 23 old men can't do with GNU/Linux?
User77: henkka-: at least use what you like, its nothing bad on windows, its just closed source, linux is so much more than a idea :)
User53: is like "matrix", someone likes be in the "dream"
User53: that is more confortable
User53: but is not real life
User76: markit i uploading
User76: @markit uploading
User53: lol @ chandrariri
User76: hey how u do that
User76: mention my name with color
User77: henkka-: well linux is not for "usual" users, you still need some knowledge, and if you dont got it, you need to get it
User76: im new
User53: henkka-: http://www.fsf.org/resources/what-is-fs
User53: henkka-: 2) aptitude install packagename
User78: User76 if someone types your name it'll be highlighted automatically, e.g.  if you'd type rork I'll see the line in an orange bar
User77: henkka-: the part with software is not true imho :) but yah, if you dont ready to learn new stuff, linux is not the way for you :)
User76: hey markit here the pict http://imagebin.org/97844
User53: 1) choosing the distro is not really a problem, just different flavours of freedom
User53: henkka-: I'm interested in your experience... could you be more specific? often problems of people that touch GNU/Linux the first time are not real problems
User67: well, i think it's widely spread over the internet that ubuntu is probably the best "starter package" to linux .. for me it served that purpose
User53: I mean, is auto-generated problems because they take the wrong aproach
User76: iam first timer
User53: henkka-: died because of Linux?
User53: henkka-: ok, like buy a copy of Windows 3.1
User53: so you can't complain M$ if Win 3.1 is not good in 2010
User76: hey guys,what chat program in this pict use?
User76: http://imagebin.org/97844
User77: henkka-: well if you would use linux since years, you would have the same problems with windows, its only a point of view
User53: you can download the most uptodate linux distro
User76: hey guys,what chat program in this pict use?http://imagebin.org/97844
User53: henkka-: and all those disks were old?
User77: henkka-: how long you tried to use linux ?
User53: henkka-: there are "live" versions, you can try without even installing them
User78: User76 I think noone knows, could be anything that uses some advanced skins or it could've been custom written
User53: henkka-: limited ram?
User53: define "worse"
User53: difficoult to belive, since often XP is bloated and trashing
User67: i can'/t really see henkka- s point .. i was fed up with windows, so i googled something like "newbie's linux distro" and there i was, installed ubuntu (then kubuntu) and was happy, and so i am until today ^^
User53: but I take your words for granted
User76: hey hey look at this pict http://imagebin.org/97844
User53: henkka-: even antivirus running trashes windows usually
User53: it takes a lot to load files
User53: henkka-: sure, there is no defence in windows :)
User53: it's build insecure, to let M$ sell "improved" versions
User53: henkka-: because you don't know but you got them
User53: how can't you tell? antivirus have a 70-80% rate
User53: you miss always the latest ones, for instance
User53: well, mean time for XP "pure" connected in internet before to be contaminated is around 20 minutes
User53: so you are really telling a strange story
User53: or you had a GNU/Linux with a XP interface ;)
User53: henkka-: mmm M$ addicted tend to install cracked programs
User53: cracked program = trojan for sure
User53: then they use IE to navigate, that is cracker's heaven
User53: sure, is known for it's aderence to web standards
User53: and to be rock solid against malicious sites
User53: :)
User78: User53 I have the same experience, firewall in the router, not opening suspicious emails, no pirated software and firefox. Nothing found on scans also.
User53: User78 probably, if you limit your actions a lot M$ crap can resist
User53: but is not designed to resist to anything :)
User53: just take your laptop and go around with UMTS connectivity and you will tell me how good it is
User67: User53 you're a bit biased i would say. i experienced quite the same as henkka- .. was fed up with windows for other reasons
User53: User67 I have a computer shop near my house, their main business is remove viruses and restore crashing computers
User53: there must be a reason for that :)
User67: well, when i look at some of my friends computers, they're mostly incredibly infected, but i can'/t imagine how they do that
User53: in the firm I wark for, we were in our knees this december because of conficker
User53: we have kaspersky antivirus in every pc
User53: and hw firewall, and what you like
User53: but every host was contaminated, except our "backbone system" that run on GNU/Linux
User67: maybe users that are likely to switch to linux are more aware of what they're doing on the web than the equal user?
User79: ciao a tutti
User53: (zimbra and samba)
User78: !it | totino
User16: User79 Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi Â« /join #ubuntu-it Â» senza virgolette)
User53: henkka-: if you are a wizard in GNU/Linux programs and tools, and then they give you windows, you will experience the same
User80: Hello all :) I wanna set my computer's time with a time server all i wanna know is , "ntp.ubuntu.com" is a correct time server by ubuntu and if so how do i refresh it once seleted ?
User81: hello :> as a friendly warning to everyone who is using 10.04 (64-bit edition), i've discovered that ktorrent (the bittorrent client included with kubuntu as a default) is occasionally corrupting downloads...the same files downloaded with transmission-qt are perfectly fine...i'm going to file a bug report upstream
User67: User53 true.. there's a german saying.. roughly means "every new beginning is hard" (:
User80: User81  I guess i have this damn issue too
User53: wise people :)
User67: thank you ;)
User80: Thanks for conforming anyways
User81: AhmedBH, You too? :> The files seem to download and complete just fine, but the md5sums are all off, it's very strange...in either case transmission-qt is a great alternative
User76: User78 i think so ..movie just poison braining
User53: I've problems with shutdown in a server I'm going to install as ltsp server in a school... is sure related to KDE or some program that runs after login
User80: User81 Kinda yeah i discoverd this yesteday and the day before yesterday i thought ktorrent would be better but old is gold i would rather stick myself to transmission
User53: anyone else experiencing it?
User80: User81Hello all :) I wanna set my computer's time with a time server all i wanna know is , "ntp.ubuntu.com" is a correct time server by ubuntu and if so how do i refresh it once seleted ?
User53: henkka-: well, I'm not in multimedia sector, but you can ask me privately, just in case
User78: User80 ntp.ubuntu.com is fine, if you install ntpdate it will be pmartinez@example.net. You can manually update with `sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com` or you can cron it
User81: AhmedBH, I figured i'd give it a try as well, I removed it once I figured out what was going on but I'm sure I'll file a bug report anyway :> As for the time server question, I'm fairly certain that server name is correct, it should refresh itself automatically
User80: User78 Thanks i wanted to know about refreshing too so i can try it out by changing the date myself just to make sure its working fine
User80: User81 Thanks you too :)
User80: User7821 May 23:35:13 ntpdate[6112]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
User80: Is this okay ?
User80: Socket is in use?
User78: User80 doesn't sound good to me, can you try again in a couple of minutes? maybe it was allready updating
User80: No actually i have added ntp.ubuntu.com to the server list, isnt it saying its already EXISTING ? cause its been added by me and every time it will update itself ?
User80: when ever i connect to internet !!
User80: GTG see you tomorrow its already midnight in here
User80: Ciao all
User76: guys can terminal use for chatting?
User67: try irssi :)
User76: hay
User67: not exclusively
User67: ah, alright :D
User76: blueskaj: i want to learn nmap?
User82: hi, everybody I want to install Kubuntu 10.04 but only if I can use limewire or frostwire using Icedtea, because it doesn't work in Ubuntu 10.04, I want to ask if there's a way of getting this applications to work in Kubuntu 10.04???
User76: spezlbd6c:f4c4:4f6:c742:59d8:35db:68f6:4d5f irssi im downloading..what is irssi/.
User67: a text-based irc client? isn'/t that what you wanted? ^^
User76: u really helped me man..
User67: User76 i am what i am and i do what i can :P
User76: and aaa,,how to use it ??
User67: man irssi :)
User76: how i chat than??
User76: then
User76: server freenode
User83: hy everybody
User16: Irssi is a terminal based IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help. See also !screen
User83: When I klick on the K Symbol to pen the main menu it appears to open twice.
User83: Just a minor bug. But still a bug
User84: i type server freenode,nothing happen guys
User76: halo
User76: halo
User85: hi chandrariri
User86: hello every body
User76: hey how to use irssi
User31: User76 what about the man page?
User76: unable to connect server freenode...it said
User76: i type /server
User78: User76 type /server irc.freenode.net
User76: then??
User76: iam in freenode server
User87: im new
User87: where is evyone/
User88: Hay does anyone know why I have to enter my password everytime I mount my windows partitions/
User88: ??
User87: i use irssi
User87: i do too
User87: heavybd6c:f4c4:4f6:c742:59d8:35db:68f6:4d5f mine too
User88: Ohh
User87: r u new in ubuntu?
User88: No not really
User88: But I haven't found out why it does this yet
User88: Am I missing some privileges?
User89: User88 Probably you're mounting it as rootâ¦ you should add the âuserâ option in /etc/fstab to allow non-root users to mount and unmount it (if that is truly your desire)
User88: Alright =]
User87: twey: can i mount windows without enter password?as root?
User31: User87 what about adding it to fstab?
User31: User87 twey explained it perfectly i would say, what else is there to ask?
User88: Twey Where do I add users in the fstab, All it gives me are the default mount points for my filesystem
User31: oh for heavens sake, http://www.google.com/search?q=fstab+guide
User76: there is no fstab in /etc   i use ubuntu netbook remix
User89: User88 You need to add âuserâ in the options column of the line that corresponds to your Windows mount (the column with the column-separated keyword options)
User89: Er, comma-separated**
User76: sorry,yes there is..
User31: twey, i admire your patience ^^
User76: anyine?
User76: anyone?
User76: i just download gdesklets..how to use it?
User90: hi guys
User90: i have successfully installed the nvidia driver and have now a problem in setting the resolution to 1280x1024
User31: User76 no offense, but it would not harm you if you tried google and/or man pages before asking every little problem in irc
User90: can anyone help??
User31: User76 there are great chances to find an answer faster than anyone responds on irc
User76: no one does sir..i just need fast respond..ok
User91: hi people
User92: hy
User91: is there a way to make java coexist with phonon and other alsa apps?
User92: can i define global shortcuts in kde?
User91: i read somewhere that setting java to use oss, and wrapping it with aoss helps, but it's a mess
User91: yes, guest
User92: how?:P
User91: on systemsettings -> mouse and keyboard
User92: thanks i found that already, but how do i define new shortcuts?
User93: hi guys i have installed a brand new kubuntu, and now have a problem in setting the screen resolution. I have installed the nvidia driver from kubuntu. can someone help
User93: ??
User92: @tux: try to set the resolution in system settings->monitor
User92: i mean display, sorry
User93: there is only 640x480
User93: so i need a little more help than that
User92: have you installed a driver for your card?
User93: yes the nvidia-current
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