User1: yeah movies!
 * Ampelbein is watching southpark. more fun than movies ;-)
User2: Are the current freeze issues related to this age old bug? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=201964
User3: Could some member of bug-control please check on bug #263823 ? I think it could be set to triaged/importance low. Thanks.
User4: Launchpad bug 263823 in gnome-control-center "gnome-appearance-properties should not open multiple instances" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263823
User5: User2 Almost certainly not.
User6: User3 done, thanks
User3: thank you, too.
User6: since you're the nice guys you probably have good recommendations right? ;-)
User6: what are you guys using as a rss reader?
User6: greg-g: ah yes ;-) looks pretty fancy but i want a desktop app one  ;-)
 * pedro_ dreaming with a webkit based rss reader
User6: greg-g: hehe nothing :-P
User6: i'm only using my dear epiphany browser for reading "rss" which is basically going to every page and read it
User6: blaah yeah i know
User6: i used to use "blam!" but is unmaintained  since ermm 2 years i guess
User6: so yeah i need a new one hopefully based on new technologies too, integrated with the desktop and so on
User6: haha yeah :p
User6: well i'm going to give a try to tinny tinny rss seems to be cool ;-)
User7: good morning
User8: hey dholbach
User7: hi thekorn
User9: dholbach, morning
User7: hiya techno_freak
User10: bug 263074
User4: Launchpad bug 263074 in bzr-rebase "Please sync bzr-rebase 0.4-1 (universe) from Debian experimental (main).  This version of bzr-rebase is required for compatibility with Bazaar 1.6, which is in intrepid." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263074
User11: dholbach, are there recordings for the udw2?
User7: User11 click on the links on UbuntuDeveloperWeek :-)
User11: oh irc logs
User12: Hi, I want to report a weird thing in synaptic. I want to install python-dev, But trying to do so results in: python2.5-dev:
User12: Depends: python2.5 (=2.5.2-2ubuntu4.1) but 2.5.2-2ubuntu5 is to be installed
User13: User12 sounds like python-dev has a depend on =2.5.2-2ubuntu4.1 which is no longer the latest.  Potentially the Depend in python-dev control file was a bit too specific.
User13: User12 not sure why this is, the changelog may give you a clue as to why this was done.
 * Hobbsee notes there's likely crack going on
User10: User12 which release?
User12: User10 8.04
User12: User13 How can I see the changelog of a package which I have not installed? Or you mean the changelog of python?
User10: User12 please give the output of 'apt-cache policy python2.5'
User13: User12 one way would be -   aptitude changelog python-dev
User12: User10 http://paste.ubuntu.com/43010/
User10: User12 please give the output of /etc/apt/sources.list
User10: User13 the depends fields in python-dev are almost always not wrong.
User14: User12 do you have -proposed enabled?
User12: User10 sources.list : http://paste.ubuntu.com/43011/
User12: User14 yes proposed is enabled
User10: User14 if he does, it's not the problem, as proposed doesn't have that version.
User10: User12 have you downloaded anything from getdeb / playdeb / etc?
User14: 2.5.2-2ubuntu5
User14: Deleted in hardy-proposed on 2008-06-30
User12: User10 for python no
 * Hobbsee jenkinscarl@example.com.
User14: User12 you got the version of python2.5 that was deleted from -proposed installed, you need to force the 2.5.2-2ubuntu4.1 version of python2.5 to install to install python2.5-dev
User12: User14 ok, will try that
User12: User14 There is only one version available...
User12: james_w The force version option is greyed out
User12: hmmm, I can't select the important security updates. It deselects itself straight away...
User15: Boo
User16: User6 Can you please explain what kind of rephrasing is needed on bug #264283?
User4: Launchpad bug 264283 in rhythmbox "Ripping preferences have no 'Strip Special Characters'" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264283
User6: User16 the comment is different than the summary in the bug report
User6: User16 the summary needs to reflects what you're asking for, in this case that the option is gconf is difficult to find and that should be shown in the ui, etc
User16: User6 Is this description fine 'UI should expose option to strip special characters'?
User6: User16 sure
User16: User6 done, marked as new.
User6: User16 alright, thanks
User9: for which package should i report the bug upstream for bug #243431
User4: Launchpad bug 243431 in nautilus "Can't copy to disk mounted under a Samba share if space doesn't exist in the share" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/243431
User17: nautlius
User9: ok, thanks :)
User6: If you're interested the Ubuntu QA Meeting is about to start in #ubuntu-meeting
User18: people are asking to give bug 63352 a higher priority... opinions?
User4: Launchpad bug 63352 in linux "Creative labs X-Fi sound card unsupported" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63352
User1: User18 no
User18: good, so my guess was right :)
User1: Ubuntu doesn't have kernel developers writing new drivers so setting a higher priority won't make resources assigned to it.
User19: User18 User1 Even aside from whether Ubuntu kernel developers write new drivers, that bug falls well into the class of things that needs to get sorted upstream, and is clearly an upstream enhancement, rather than something being broken.
User18: yeah right
User19: Were there several active driver writers in Ubuntu, we ought expect they'd be pushing stuff upstream rather than just having something like that be Ubuntu-specific.
User18: User19 I was just wondering whether lots of people having the card may raise the "priority", since most of the users actually complain about the "wishlist" thing, but in my opinion it's clearly whishlist.
User19: User18 It's clearly wishlist.  Were it an onboard component, rather than an aftermarket add-on, I might have a different opinion.
User19: Mind you, Creative has been making noise about releasing binary drivers.  If someone can show that they work with Ubuntu, it's a fairly high priority wishlist, and so might be a good candidate for someone who wanted to explore integration with Jockey.
User20: anyone here know how I can use the new opensource atheros drivers?
User19: Well, "high priority wishlist" sounds funny, but somewhere on the order of a brainstorm idea with lots of votes: it's more likely to get done than the others, but it's still not important from the standpont of bugs.
User18: User19 afaik they even released something... not sure about how usable it is though
User19: User18 Right.  I think moving that bug from "Confirmed" to "Triaged" would require that hardware, and testing some of the available solutions.
User19: Once Triaged, it can be resolved, but at least to me, it's not as important as, for example, a laptop HDA audio codec not working.
User19: (That would probably be "Medium" or "Low" depending on how common the codec was, as it would mean no sound for the user)
User21: heh
User21: < taplax> evmar: are channel ops "real" linux chrome developers? ;)
User21: <@evmar> yes, though we haven't been getting much work done due to e.g. hundreds of duplicate bugs in the bug tracker
User21: <@evmar> there are some kinks to be worked out with the open-source thing, but we knew that going into it.
User19: This is why the triage team is *so* critical to success of a project :)
User21: even the google guys are drownding in bug dupes
User21: at least LP has tools for this; im not aware of any for google code
User22: Ampelbein, welcome to bug-control :-)
User3: User22 thanks!
User3: User22 no more nagging from me here for setting importance ;-)
User22: LOL
User3: User22 and thanks for your positive comment on my application. and for the tips you gave here.
User22: Ampelbein, now you are on your own
User22: welcome, glad to have been able to help
User3: i guess there will be some issues where i am still unsure what importance to set. but since i know you are here i'm not afraid of the future ;-)
User22: and there is always Brian and persi a
User23: bdmurray : Brian please refer to bug 262693 for ff/flash crashes. Im on AMD64, two ways to crash FF with flash is to browse tv.com and anandtech.com
User4: Launchpad bug 262693 in flashplugin-nonfree "Flash not working: Intrepid, 2.6.27, FF3" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/262693
User1: User23 I'm actively browsing both of those now and npviewer has crashed but not all of FF
User23: bdmurray : I am on AMD64, synched to main, I just browsed tv.com and it crashed FF, would you like the apport dump?
User23: I also notice that npviewer.bin remains on the process list unless I kill it
User22: nullack, bdmurray, my ffox vanished while browsing tv.com
User22: no npviewer left, though. AMD64, Intrepid up-to-date
User1: I'm reading all about The Big Bang Theory right now w/o issue
User23: Brian are you on AMD64? With flash non free plugin?
User1: Yes and yes
User23: Im going to dump my profile and try again
User1: That bug report mentions 91.69.162.6 but I'm on 1.1.0
User1: which came out yesterday-ish
User1: I've changed the package for that bug from firefox to firefox-3.0
User23: Im on revision 91.69.162.6+91.69.162.65ubuntu 1 of flashplugin and 1.1.0-0ubuntu2. I can replicate the problem everytime I visit tv.com and many other sites
User23: Ive tried dumping my cache/profile to no effect
User23: I dont know if the video driver configuration is relevant but Im on Nvidia 177.70 beta
User1: User22 what video driver do you use?
User23: User22 When youve crashed do you get this in the logs "Sep  4 07:18:43 PPP kernel: [  140.970717] npviewer.bin[6153]: segfault at 0 ip 00000000f6cf6f98 sp 00000000ffb8d900 error 4 in libflashplayer.so[f6974000+93b000]"
User1: Okay, I've one error 4 from earlier today and a couple of error 7s
User1: However, firefox doesn't die for me
User23: Im going to reboot and try to replicate, Ill be back soon
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