User1: User2 normaly when there are no updates there are no updates :)
User1: User2 but why do you ask me this?
User2: Lol, I just added the xorg ppa.
User2: And I'm JackyAlcine;
User2: hold on.
User3: basso, I've added the xorg ppa; installed the packages and restarted Xorg; but to no avial
User3: I did find an issue, though.
User1: User3 was the issue driver related or compiz related?
User3: It's compiz-related; it's looking for libraries in an odd place.
User3: ~/.compiz-1/plugins
User3: And the folder 'plugins' didn't exist.
User4: That's not an issue
 * JackyAlcine is making the pastebin.
User3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/606317/
User3: Amaranth, why wouldn't it be if you mind me asking?
User3: The segfault probably is caused by it trying to call a method in the bailery library; that of which it couldn't find.
User4: It was told to load a plugin called "core", tried a few places, couldn't find it. No big deal, it just moves on.
User4: For the rest of the plugins it always checks ~/.compiz-1/plugins first in case you have a user copy you want to override the system one
User4: Doesn't find them there, moves on to /usr/lib/compiz/
User3: Ah, hence the warning that the plugin's already active?
User4: I would recommend cleaning out your compiz settings though, just to see if that fixes the issue
User4: But first dump them so we can see them if that fixes it
User3: Alright.
User4: It's rather odd that it segfaults after loading dbus...
User4: Or rather while loading dbus
User4: hmm, actually it seems your configuration is rather screwed
User4: You're using the ini backend instead of gconf
User4: make a copy of your ~/.compiz-1 and ~/.config/compiz-1 (if they exist) then remove them
User3: Ah. okay.
User3: I was going to show you the configuration now actually.
User3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/606322/
User3: Well, lol, I accidentally deleted all of the configuration settings; but it's no biggie.
User4: I'm pretty sure a lot of those plugins conflict with each other
User4: but yeah, looks like it should be easy enough for you to tweak your settings back to how you like if that fixed it
User3: Wow, Amaranth, it worked (sorta).
User3: Well, there's no window manager really
User3: Forget it; by opening the Appearance dialog; it appeared. :)
User3: Thanks so much Amaranth
User4: no problem, will poke someone about the config file to see if we can figure out what blew up
User3: Thanks :D
User1: my prayer worked
User1: he got hep
User1: help*
 * basso is badass
User1: now to pray for someone to fix the gnome-settings-daemon
 * basso starts prayer
User1: now sleepy
User5: anyone good with ftp servers?
User6: cassidy, seems libpurple has removed QQ support, will telepathy be doing anything about that?
User6: cassidy, http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/13193
User7: bcurtiswx, gadu gadu ?
User6: cassidy, i'm not very familiar with QQ myself so gadu gadu is another implementation?
User7: oh no that's another protocol
User7: unless someone starts a Telepathy connection manager for it, we won't be able to do much
User8: seb128 - have you seen andreas this morning?
User9: chrisccoulson, no
User6: cassidy, hmm.  So any future QQ bugs in empathy I get should probably be closed?
User7: bcurtiswx, they should be telepathy-haze bug
User8: seb128 - thanks
User7: and haze can't do much if libpurple doesn't support it
User6: cassidy, yes sorry I have a bad habit of using empathy when it's really a telepathy problem :X
User7: bcurtiswx, in general, if a bug is protocol specific, there are good chances that's a TP bug
User6: cassidy, i know this, I just need a shock collar to help me along ;)
User6: cassidy, OK i'll close haze bugs with QQ and recommend someone make a telepathy QQ branch :) thx
User10: pitti, seb128, could we have someone from desktop on krudy (06) for the lp translation imports session?
User9: dpm, hum, is there any specific question for us?
User9: do you need someone there or replying on IRC is fine?
User11: User10 on my way, seems my meeting with jasoncwarner got cancelled anyway
User9: pitti, thanks
User9: (I'm in another session)
User10: thanks pitti
User6: rodrigo_, you see the recent advertising e-mail on the gnome3-team mailing list ?
User12: bcurtiswx, no, which one?
 * rodrigo_ looks
User6: rodrigo_, vanillux
User6: idk why but it seemed more of an attack e-mail than one asking for legitimate help
User12: hmm
User9: what's wrong with it?
User9: it's opensource they are free to do a distro
User6: nothing wrong with the who new distro, just poorly written IMO
User6: whole*
User12: bcurtiswx, yes, seems to be a gnome remix v2.0 :)
User12: but nothing wrong with them doing it, if that's what they want, really
User12: would be better if they helped us packaging gnome3
User6: yeah,  if they want to do it thats all great. and that too..  :)
User12: well, it's not great, but maybe it's easier for us, than having to be discussing all day about everything :-)
 * rodrigo_ writes an answer
User7: which mail is that? Are there people doing a ubuntu GNOME remix ?
User9: cassidy, yes
User9: cassidy, http://vanillux.org/
User9: in fact
User9: derivative distribution, good luck to them
User7: actually I would like a proper GNOME flavour of Ubuntu
User7: with an upstream GNOME desktop, etc
User9: what difference would you get with GNOME in Ubuntu?
User9: default theme?
User9: with unity being its own desktop GNOME should go back to be closer from upstream desktop over time
User7: and ideally, unpatched app (libindicate, etc)
User9: we will not patch gnome-shell
User9: with unity2d we will probably unpatch gnome-panel
User7: ah that's good
User7: isn't there a "relation with GNOME community" session this afternoon or something?
User9: indicators are standalone sources for the most part and the things we patch will be moved over time to be proper indicators
User9: yes there is one
User7: cool, I'll try to attend over irc
User9: great
User7: I don't really want to leave Ubuntu but if I can't have a proper GNOME experience I'll probably consider doing so
User7: so it would be good to try to not make this happen :)
User9: cassidy, it's a 15h
User7: cool, I'll be there
User7: there is a live stream, irc chan, etc ?
User9: yes
User9: live stream and irc
User9: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-12/ has the schedule
User9: the irc channel will be #ubuntu-uds-lehar
User7: oki
User9: cassidy, the streams are on http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/
User9: ok, got to go, see you later
User7: yep
User13: User11 User14 I have a visual update for the overlay scrollbar. fixes a hot bug, though it changes visuals... do I need to put it in natty-proposed or oneiric?
User14: do you have a bug link?
User13: sure
User13: User14 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-scrollbar/+bug/773263
User15: Launchpad bug 773263 in overlay-scrollbar "scrolling doesn't work at the edge of the screen (fitts' law is broken)" [Undecided,In progress]
User13: User14 there's a video too, it changes a lot (visually)
User14: that looks like an oneiric fix to me
User13: User14 me too, I'd say let's open a natty PPA too
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