User1: g'morning, all
User2: good morning to all
User2: yayy
User2: !info linux-image-generic xenial
User3: linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 91.69.162.6.108 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB
User2: 70mb security updates
User1: morning, lotuspsychje
User2: hey ducasse good morning :p
User1: i've been here since 4:30 cet :)
User1: glad to see more familiar virtual faces :)
User2: hehe
User2: load lotuspsychje virtualbox-ose
User2: ....booting lotuspsychje
User2: Your favorite Os is now operative
User1: i've been toying with that old imac
User2: oh nice ducasse what have it become?
User1: turning off insane crap like gui sound feedback, 'natural scrolling', etc
User1: now trying to get it to mount nfs, but the damn thing doesn't want to
User2: your gonna keep macosX?
User1: well, keep a small partition, just to have access to it. use the rest of the disk for something a bit more sane
User2: cool
User1: wondering if i'm going to bother stripping the damn thing down to put in an ssd...
User1: it needs to be taken totally apart for that
User2: yeah mac is a pain to unscrew
User2: and is that already sata hd inside?
User2: or still ide?
User1: oh god, i hope it's sata - didn't think of that :) got docs, can check later.
User2: more ram & linux are your best hopes i think
User1: it can only take 1gb more
User2: oh i sold that macbook myself 200 euro
User2: on the flee market
User2: 1gb more is nice no?
User1: 1gb more would make it a total of 3, which is enough for my needs
User1: this machine is sort of perfect because of the 20" screen, just the right size for displaying monitoring stuff in a corner
User2: is that colored cube imac?
User1: no, white. just a screen on a stand.
User2: ah yeah
User2: might be lucky with sata afterall then
User2: doublecheck that :p
User1: https://photos.app.goo.gl/63ZB4xwMjAgCMeMw2
User2: neat
User2: check sys specs app ducasse it might say wich hd
User2: normally its got all info there, like mac version and hardware
User1: i know, i just haven't been interested enough yet :)
User2: lol
User2: sold one of those with a thin red line in screen for 100 euro once
User1: today i'm thinking of trying syncthing, to keep shell config etc the same across all machines
User2: nice
User2: you have a nas at home ducasse ?
User1: self-buildt file server, at least
User2: cool
User1: everything is on zfs, important stuff on mirrors, unimportantt stuff on single drives until i can afford mirroring them
User4: Good morning everyone
User2: hey alkisg morning mate :p
User2: User1 what kind of stuff are you mirroring?
User1: hi alkisg - wb :)
User4: Hmm, kernel update, will need to reboot today :P
User2: yeah 70mb security updates
User2: prob that nex xenial stack
User2: new
User1: User2 just personal files, stuff i've built up over the years etc. lots of weirdness there :)
User2: lol
User2: ftp/allsorts i love those hehe
User1: i'm a packrat, i keep everything i might need at some point
User2: same here
User2: alot of usefull tools on hd
User1: got a ton of rescue disk images, os images for nextstep/openstep, solaris etc - as if i'm ever going to need them, but i don't have the heart to throw them away :)
User2: :p
User2: User1 the IT mans dream, mirrors full of toolz
User2: you got public stuff somewhere, or just local?
User2: im real nosy lol
User1: i've got a vps that i'm setting up a web server on, maybe with some guides i've written etc, but it's closed to the public yet :)
User1: still not sure what's useful enough to put there
User2: kk
User1: User2 i've got stuff like old firmware images for hardware that's no longer available, but they might be useful to some. been thinking of requesting permission to make them available, for free of course
User2: yeah
User1: guides on how i set up my yubikey for things like login+sudo auth, as well as gpg and ssh keys. also a guide on setting up a tpm and using it as a hardware rng source - little things like that
User1: might help someone,i guess?
User2: if they find it online, sure
User1: that is of course the problem, but at least if someone asks me i can just give them an url :)
User1: finding things is a nightmare when you don't know how/where to look
User2: indeed
User2: breakfast bbl
User1: eat well, lotuspsychje
User1: heading out, bbl
User5: Howdy folks
User6: howdy
User5: hi immu
User6: whats up
User5: morning coffee here
User6: had afternoon lunch
User6: feeling sleepy :)
User6: how is ducasse
User1: hi guys, just back
User1: User5 the audio cards you asked about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creamware_(software_company)#Products
User1: they made some fantastic quality stuff, but it was expensive
User5: Hi ducasse well, quality parts cost \
User1: yep. i bought one of their dsp cards and some of their software modules that ran on them - cool as <expletive deleted>
User5: ducasse, how's things?
User1: hi EriC^^
User1: User5 pretty good, can't complain :)
User5: ducasse, glad to hear that :-)
User5: reinstalled the m-audio 192 card and am forced to use pulseaudio becuase flash audio on websites needs it , but now my source switching is nicel and simple.
User5: can't wait til HTML5 is totally adopted and can rid myself of pulse
User1: User5 got through to a good doctor who actually read my journal, and he couldn't understand why the others had refused me pain meds
User5: yeah, like my wife who suffered from migraines for yrs due to underactive thyroid, useless doctor who didn't keep up to date on old and known developments in migraine causes and treatment. A new Doctot diagnosed her problem immediately on her first visit and no more migraines after that.
User1: she must be grateful; my mother suffers migraines, and they can be pretty horrible things
User5: sure are
User1: i've just killed off flash here. might miss some content, but most likely nothing i can't make do without
User5: did you purge it?
User1: most likely, my apt config automatically purges everything when it's removed
User6: hi EriC^^ hi ducasse
User6: ducasse, are sound cards still a thing
User1: User6 of course, especially for pro audio
User1: (which is what we're talking about)
User6: do they work on linux and are USB based
User1: depends. some do, some don't, and some are and others are pci
User5: pcis are the preferred due to driver availability for starters
User6: okie
User6: the only soundcard i heard from was creative's sound blaster
User7: they're pretty old school now :)
User5: most consumer sound cards have linux drivers available nowadays
User1: User7 and not really anything i would want to be known to have bought
User6: cool i can run linux commands in Windows powershell
User6: i have heard less about creative based sound cards ? ????
User1: 'creative labs'
User1: they were really the first ones to make sound cards for pc's, maybe except roland midi stuff
User6: yeah
User6: i don't see any systems like displaying sound powered by Sblive
User6: for a long long time
User7: nah everything comes with onboard now
User1: plus, they reached the point where there weren't much more you could do with sound cards that gamers care about
User7: MOAR RGB!
User1: ...and moar channels! 360.1 audio!
User7: oh they've already moved onto three places for Dolby Atmos :) my receiver recommends 5.1.2 minimum, but you can do 7.2.2
User6: whats a 7.2.2
User6: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/future-3d-graphics,2560-2.html
User1: User7 i never cared about that stuff. i spent a fortune on a good _stereo_ system, and only bought something halfway-insanely priced for the home cinema setup :)
User7: D:
User7: User6 7 surround speakers, 2 subwoofers and two 'height' for 3D audio
User6: oooooooo
User6: u have such a setup daftykins
User7: no
User7: still 5.1 here
User6: Klipsch ProMedia is recomended
User8: 0.0 here
User8: Well, 0.1 really, but the sub isn't connected.
User1: my desktop has a pair of crap speakers, but they're only for playing background music while doing something else. there are also speakers in at least two of my screens, those might be better - never tested.
User6: brb
User1: User5 can i ask what kind of audio software you run on linux?
User5: ducasse, for music , just plain ol' vlc
User7: o0 surely that lacks any library function
User5: I use the music library in dolphin , I hate playlists etc , they always muck up, I keep it simple
User7: oh so that's not a library so much as just file browsing
User7: \o
User7: back in a bit, off to the shops, dafty's new 4K toys need new HDMI cables, ugh
User1: for playing music i used vlc, then smplayer for a long time, then i discovered mpd+ncmpcpp (or gmpc if i need/want a gui client). not going back
User1: User7 have fun! buy some nice gear :)
User5: 4k wow, must be nice, my sat provider wants an arm and a leg for 4k service , and there aren't very many sources.
User1: with my eyesight it would be pointless to spend money on...
User9: rhythmbox clients plus minidlna server work pretty nicely for me
User1: i've heard good things about rhythmbox, but not tried it myself. my amp can actually play from a dlna source, but i ran into problems with high-bitrate flac tracks...
User5: I convert flac to wav files., fewer processr stages
User5: and avoid mp3 as much as possible
User9: User5 why do you avoid mp3?
User10: User9 probably because it's lossy
User10: User1 ncmpcpp can't be beat
User10: https://i.imgur.com/aGGoP4M.png
User1: User10 yep, it's excellent. been playing with cmus for local playback, but really want ncmpcpp everywhere
User10: I tried configuring it to use mopidy server instead of mpd, so that I could import spotify/soundcloud/youtube tracks, but it just did not work.
User10: I was able to set up my HTPC at home as an audio device though, so I can use ncmpcpp on my laptop to play tracks on my HTPC which outputs to my home stereo.
User5: kkremitzki, lossy compressed audio isn't my thing, I"m a bit of an audiophile
User10: BluesKaj stores .wav files only
User10: :D
User11: Hi everyone
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