User1: hi, you may receive a bogus oops-tools summary sent from buffaloberry, please ignore that, I ran the wrong script :(
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User2: I seem to be subscribed to several private PPAs that I have no recollection of. Is that normal? How can I unsubscribe?
User3: User2 You've probably inherited them through team memberships.
User3: Subscriptions just grant you access -- they don't give you additional notifications.
User2: User3 Okay. I just ignore them then?
User3: User2 Indeed.
User2: User3 Cheers :)
User4: can someone edit the VCS imports of https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/ktorrent/trunk
User4: the new git urls are : git://git.kde.org/libktorrent
User4: and git://git.kde.org/ktorrent
User5: User4 hi
User4: User5 heya :D
User5: User4 you need to add a new import, we can change lp:ktorrent to point at that new branch.
User4: ah ok
User4: hold on then :)
User4: User5 https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/ktorrent/trunk
User4: seems i need a new project for libktorrent
User5: there's a difference between ktorrent and libktorrent?
User5: User4 I've fixed lp:ktorrent
User4: ah thanks
User4: and yeah
User4: they split out the ktorrent shared libraries
User4: should i just register libktorrent under the same project or just give it a different branch name?
User4: s/same/different
User4: User5 ^^
User5: User4 That's a good question, I guess a different project is appropriate.
User4: okay
User4: User5 can you move https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/libktorrent/trunk to launchpad.net/libktorrent
User5: User4 done
 * jelmer wonders who is CHR today
User4: thanks! :)
User6: patdk-wk: it depends mostly on the load of the system, it can vary between 5 minutes and 40 minutes
User6: there's a lot of load lately, I'm working on a fix to speed it up as well
User6: patdk-wk: you've spelled "patrickdk" wrong ...
User7: sinzui, i'm trying to understand something jml said and gary says you'll be able to explain it
User8: hah
User7: or, if jml is still around, he can do it (sorry, jml, i keep forgetting you're in england)
User9: Wow. that was hard to understand. I hope the question is easier
User7: jml, what do you mean by "project Foo and all of its downstreams"? what are the downstreams and how is that relationship represented in launchpad?
User8: User7 oh right. a Product and its linked source packages in various distros.
User8: User7 with our current data set, I believe that would be Ubuntu, but as the derived archive work progresses it could involve other distros as well
User7: ok, processing...
User8: to pick a bad example, Banshee is an upstream Product, people file bugs there and on the ubuntu/+source/banshee source package
User8: but then for reasons unknown to mankind, Banshee becomes an integral part of Linaro, which is (will be) modelled as a derivative of Ubuntu
User7: User8 would it make conceptual sense to navigate from a project to a collection of its distro_source_packages?
User7: (finish your parable first)
User8: oh, and we're also in this future maintaining a full mirror of Debian's bugs
User8: it's highly likely that someone would want to search through the banshee bugs in all of those areas: upstream, ubuntu, linaro, debian
User8: maybe when this becomes more likely we could introduce different data models, but the use case remains... it's exactly the sort of thing Launchpad should do.
User8: User7 thinking...
User7: actually, scratch that question for the moment
User7: here's a better question
User7: there's a bug in banshee-in-linaro
User7: how would you navigate from the bug to the banshee product?
User8: User7 probably with a more expanded version of the Ubuntu-specific things we have already: https://bugs.launchpad.net/banshee
User8: (or see https://bugs.launchpad.net/do for a project that has bugs in both the upstream & Ubuntu)
User7: User8 i'm talking about one specific bug. it would have a bug_target, right?
User7: and the bug_target would either be banshee, or it would be banshee-in-linaro
User8: User7 oh right, sorry, I had it around the wrong way...
User7: and if it was banshee-in-linaro, then banshee-in-linaro would have some kind of link to banshee
User8: yes
User7: ok, i can work with that, thanks
User8: although I imagine a more common use would be simply clicking some kind of link saying "this also affects upstream", but what you describe would probably be there
 * leonardr thinking in terms of the data structures
User8: User7 fwiw, banshee and banshee-in-linaro (linaro/+source/banshee) would be of two different types
User8: Product and DistributionSourcePackage
User7: good to know
User8: they probably both implement some of the same interfaces though
User7: yeah, like IBugTarget
User8: indeed
 * jml retreats back to his cave
User7: User8 i'm back
User7: let's talk about "Ubuntu and its derivatives"
User10: I think he went back to his cave
 * leonardr lives in hope that jml has irc in his cave
User10: :p
User7: in your second example you mention bugs "in Ubuntu and its derivatives"
User8: User7 yes.
User7: a bug would be associated with Ubuntu through bug/bug_target/distribution, and only if the bug_target was a distribution source package
User7: is that right?
User8: User7 yes, that's right.
User7: suppose instead a bug is associated with a derivative of ubuntu
User8: User7 and, conceptually, a distribution would have a derivative_distributions collection associated with it. (I don't know how that is actually implemented in the data model)
User8: ok.
User7: how is that derivative related to ubuntu?
User7: ok
User7: so there'd be some kind of 'parent_distribution' on kubuntu
User8: User7 probably there's a distribution.derived_from property
User8: yeah
User7: and i imagine that can be recursive
User8: and probably, Linaro rather than kubuntu for an actual real-world example
User8: User7 as in more than one layer of derivation? yes.
User7: all right
User8: User7 anything else?
User7: User8 that should be it
User8: User7 cool. thanks.
User11: hello. When we make release branches off of trunk, should we not stack them?
User11: Or does it matteR?
User12: could someone help me retry https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+build/2073902/+retry - it times out (Error ID: OOPS-1797K1474)
User13: https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1797K1474
User14: Hi i'm not reciving any confirmation after uploading packages to my ppa
User14: It has been over a week
User14: https://launchpad.net/~ajenbo/+archive/id-game-ports
User5: User14 did you receive any email confirming that your packages were accepted or rejected?
User5: before they were even built, I mean
User5: were the packages signed with your GPG key as registered on Launchpad, and did they list a correct email address ?
User14: yes
User14: no i did build the packages
User14: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/exYnbyWK
User14: jelmer, I'm actually beginning to doubth that it was the same pgp key, as i can't seam to match the 2048R/9647A895 in LP with the keys on my machine
User14: But when i try to insert the Fingerprint of the key LP just rejects it
User5: User14 You can't upload binary packages to PPA's, only source packages.
User6: AJenbo, User5 https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+faq/227
User5: User6 thanks
User14: jelmer, it has all the source, i don't want to upload the bin just the source, am i doing some thing wrong?*
User15: User11 generally it's okay to make stacked branches. http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/user-guide/stacked.html
User14: jelmer, do i need to clean out some thing after test building before i upload?
User5: User14 To build just the source you need an option to whatever you're using to build (e.g. debuild -S). #ubuntu-packaging is probably more appropriate for this sort of question.
User14: Hmm LP says Oops when i try to set up my PGP key
User14: Error ID: OOPS-1797O1497
User13: https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1797O1497
User15: User16 can you help out yofel with what looks like a ppa build timeout issue, or should i ping someone else?
User12: User15 it seems like it builds now after refreshing the page a few times, even with the timeout error
User6: User15 it;'s working for hgm now
User15: yofel, User6 cool, glad to hear it. :-)
User6: User12 there's an auto-retry for dependency-wait builds
User16: User15 please see if someone from soyuz is available.  I've got a lot of Release Manager stuff to do at the moment.
User6: you don't need to hit retry
User15: User16 issue seems to be resolved. and i forgot you were in RM mode--that trumps. :-)
User12: ah, well, it builds so I'm happy
User14: Ok that seamed to help, now i got an email, but
User14: Unable to find distroseries: unstable
User14: I guess that i have to change it to maverick
User14: Accepted :)
User14: thanks or the help guys
User17: Why does my branch have a funny url (lp:hypernucleus-server)? https://code.launchpad.net/~richies/hypernucleus-server/PyramidPort
User17: Shouldn't it have pyramidport on the end of it?
User17: nvm i think i understand
User14: does some one know how to generate a finger print for the ppa?
User18: User14 I'm not sure quite what you mean, can you explain a bit more?
User19: Hello, we MySQL have an issue, a LP branch which has stopped mirroring, is there any LP admin here who could help?
User14: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ajenbo/id-game-ports
User14: Error: can't find signing_key_fingerprint at https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~ajenbo/+archive/id-game-ports
User14: maxb, ^
User18: User14 A recently created PPA? The key is generated a short while after the first upload to the PPA
User14: ok, ill give it some time then :)
User18: It looks like it has happened now
User20: is there any way to speed up the publication of a package in a ppa? LP says "published 37 minutes ago", status published, but at the same time says "Note: Some binary packages for this source are not yet published in the repository."
User20: isn't that a lie when it says "published"?
User20: i386 - Pending publication
User6: User20 source is published, binaries are not
User15: User19 an admin should be responding shortly, per cody-sommerville's request.
User20: User6 saying "status: published" can be quite misleading then as a summary
User21: User19 what branch are you having an issue with?
User20: User6 anyway, the binary is built, it's just another cron job that has to kick in to actually make it visible for apt-get?
User6: User20 see bug 657633
User13: Launchpad bug 657633 in Soyuz "PPA page says my PPA is both published and not yet published" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/657633
User19: User21 this one:
User19: https://code.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/mysql-trunk
User19: User21 and this one:
User6: User20 yes you need to wait, we've got a slow publisher at the moment because of a couple of bugs and larger load than usual
User19: https://code.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/mysql-trunk-bugfixing
User6: 40mins tops
User19: they have "next mirror: disabled". I'd like them to be kicked off, so that they mirror again.
User20: User6 ok, thanks
User21: User19 i see that mirroring is disabled.  let me see if i can figure out why.
User6: User20 it should speed up considerably next time we release, I just fixed a nice bug
User19: User21 for mysql-trunk, I think it's because we renamed the branch on our side, but I updated that in  LP ~8 hours ago,
User19: and it hasn't woken up since then.
User14: maxb, the command is still complaning, guess it has a stupid cache some where
User19: User21 for trunk-bugfixing, I don't know the reason.
User18: User14 hmm, let me try it....
User20: User6 \o/
User18: User14 fails here too. I am confused.
User14: maxb, removing it and then adding it solved it
User18: User14 removing what?
User14: sudo apt-add-repository --remove ppa:ajenbo/id-game-ports
User14: maxb, but the ppa makes software center crash x(
User14: apt-add-repro added "src http://ppa....." instead of "deb http://ppa....." x(
User12: me again, this time I have a build that's stuck uploading.. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+build/2073903
User15: StevenK: are you available to help out yofel with a build issue?
User22: Hello, is there a way to check a package before uploading it into ppa? to check that it will not be rejected for trivial reasons
User14: http://pastebin.com/fQ1zZa8G
User14: when i install packages from my PPA i get rejected with a message about them beeing a non trusted source
User18: User14 An annoyance with the new PPA process is that the PPA key generation will only be initiated after the first publication of a package, and the PPA will only be signed by the key when some other event causes republication of the PPA
User18: If you upload another package, or a new version of an existing package, the problem should resolve itself
User14: maxb, ok stupid, but ill give it a go :)
User18: User14 Yes, it is stupid. It's bug 374395. One day.... :-)
User13: Launchpad bug 374395 in Soyuz "New PPAs can be published unsigned" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374395
User23: i'm getting a "Code Update In Progress" when attempting to access the staging server, any guess on when this will be available?
User15: User23 it can depend on what happens during the update, but in my experience not too long.
User23: jcsackett, thanks, i'll give it some more time
User24: User23 we're doing a full restore.
User24: User23 be 24 hours or so
User23: lifeless, ouch
User24: User23 you could use qastaging
User23: lifeless, ok, will try that
User23: lifeless, Service Temporarily Unavailable   (qastaging)
User18: How come jaunty is not present under PPA supported series at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas, but it still accepts uploads?
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User25: lamont: hi, are the buildds ... cranky right now?
User3: User25 What's up?
User3: They look OK to me.
User25: User3 hm, i uploaded a package to a PPA (private, OEM) about 30 minutes ago, and haven't received mail that it was accepted yet
User3: User25 That's well before it gets near the buildds.
User3: So it's well before it enters lamont's domain.
User25: User3 ok, sorry for the noise then
User3: Let's see..
User3: Uploads are being processed OK at the moment. Are you sure you signed it properly and everything?
User25: User3 pretty sure. i have something set in my dput.cf that won't let me upload unless it's signed
User25: User3 some things are moving again. this is probably an oem specific thing, please don't waste any more time on me. :)
User25: User3 although maybe you could help answer me another question -- in a debian/control file, i have Architecture: all which means it is architecture independent. i currently see it building in launchpad with a little i386 icon. is that just the default for an "all" build?
User3: User25 Right, Architecture: all is built on i386 at the moment.
User25: User3 ok, thanks
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