User1: hello
User1: is the December update for KDE Applications in the latest Kubuntu release?
User1: altendky: o/
User1: valorie, Mamarok, CoJaBo & grumble: o/ too
User2: by latest release, do you mean next release?
User2: User1 ^^^
User2: and hi to you too
User2: if they are just bugfixes or so, regular updates will catch them for 19.10
User2: some can be backported
User2: few to none make it back to the LTS
User2: so I guess my answer is: depends on what you mean, and what you want
User2: :-)
User1: hrm
User1: I'm on Kubuntu 19.10
User1: https://dot.kde.org/2019/12/12/apps-update-december <-- when does this land for my release?
User1: User2 :)
User1: one thing I am looking forward is KDE Connect's management of SMS messages
User1: which sounds like it will be fantastic
User2: as they get built, tested and uploaded
User2: we do work with the neon team too
User2: first frameworks, then plasma and finally apps
User2: so I guess the answer is "when they are done"
User2: lol
User2: most of the work now is on preparing the next release, which is an LTS
User1: ok
User1: oh I was just wondering if it was out already
User1: that's all
User1: :)
User1: thank you for all the work you do :) :) <3
User2: I didn't notice it yet, but then I have updates pending I've not done yet
User3: is Amarok dead?
User3: looks like it based on the update...
User2: not dead, but not yet alive again
User4: Got a question on a new Kubuntu 19.10 install - function keys being grabbed (can't use them in Midnight Commander for example). Also the mouse cursor in a Konsole terminal is 5x bigger than usual!
User5: onenergetic was added by: onenergetic
User5: <onenergetic> Hello, need help, need loads in my exe!
User6: onenergetic: .exe is an executable file format for windows, not linux, but you can use "wine" (within limits) if you have to:
User6: !wine
User7: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
User8: Hello i need help for a build for light gaming/video editing. i plan to pack it with 16Gb ram and use some new components form the old machine. but i cant' decide on the GPU. options i came down with Ryzen 5 2600 + nvidia 1050 ti, nvidia 1650 or any other AMD card; or Radeon vega 11 (on ryzen 2400G). from what i read, AMD cards (550, 560, 570) need more power and their performance is still weaker than nvidia. i would liek to keep the
User8: wattage down as well as price. for some reason their price is the same here as nvidias or higher. OS will be Kubuntu (preferably LTS). current monitor is old with VGA cable and max resolution 1680x1050. might change it within next 2 years. depending on financial situation.
User8: importantly  - easy to install and use (plug and play vs plug and pray and fix and...) :-)
User9: is there an extension for apt to pin certain packages (or lists/sets of packages) to be valid only for certain Keys and/or Origins? or can that be already done with apt_preferences/pinning?
User10: viewer|48, ask in nouveau.
User10: type: /j #nouveau
User10: it's thes oss driver for nvidia.
User9: ah, origin can be done with apt pinning
User9: but not pinned to the pgp key
User11: Hi folks
User5: darylimjz was added by: darylimjz
User5: <darylimjz> Hello
User5: <darylimjz> is this group active? or should I use the forums/IRC instead
User5: <darylimjz> oh lol this seems to be linked to the IRC channel
User6: User12 hi there. it's best to just ask your question.
User11: hey tomreyn
User6: hello BluesKaj
User11: tomreyn, what's new?
User6: nothing kubuntu related on my end
User11: we get very few kubuntu questions here nowadays. I suppose it's stabilty is probly the reason
User10: viewer|31, logout and pick KDE.
User10: viewer|92, it's default now and most likely you have installed a package that has cinnamon as dependency and there you have it.
User5: <darylimjz> well shit
User11: darylimjz?
User12: I have another question, why does this KDE wallet kleopatra thingy keeps asking me to enter my openpgp password
User11: darylimjz, dunno I avoid kwallet and I don't use opengpg so I have no clue. Mayne diogenes_ might have an answer?
User10: BluesKaj, lst time i used kwallet was with kde4.
User12: its ok, i got it
User12: its under Account Details in System Settings, just gotta uncheck the KDE Wallet thing
User11: diogenes_, I've always disabled it since to me it was nothing but a PITA
User11: unless he wants to use kwallet
User12: okay when i rebooted the DE reset to cinnamon again
User12: any idea how to set KDE Plasma as default? or identify which package is causing the cinnamon dependency?
User11: ]look in your packge manager, type cinnamon and see what's installed, if you see cinnamon DE, uninstall it
User11: darylimjz,^
User1: hi.  Why is Elisa not done scanning my music collection? It's been this way for hours and hours now.
User11: Roey, dunno I just keep my music in a separate folder on my outboard drive. i don't use media player playlists, always found them unreliable.
User1: User11 ok
User5: <darylimjz> @blueskaj lol I did that, and then my system went completely unbootable lmao
User5: <darylimjz> Reinstalling Kubuntu now haha
User11: darylimjz, i meant just the desktop, not everything cinnamon
User5: <darylimjz> Ahh... Shit haha I'm really new to this, not sure what you meant. It's fine, no data loss, and I only just installed Kubuntu yesterday. Fresh install probably for the best anyway, and now I know what to look out for (avoid cinnamon stuff)
User5: <darylimjz> Kubuntu has otherwise been awesome, not sure why the community feels so dead
User13: Hello. I noticed that with 19.10 my nvidia-driver isn't activated anymore. When I try to activate the 440-driver, the system always reverts back to the nouveau-driver. Is this a known problem?
User5: <darylimjz> I've tried many other distros and Kubuntu has been the best so far
User14: there are still many people here, it seems
User11: darylimjz, i was spec'ing earlier that the reason for so few questions nowadays is Kubuntu's stability and reliability
User5: <darylimjz> I've tried other distros like Fedora, POP OS, their communities seem a lot larger and responsive. OTOH it's slightly harder to find resources regarding Kubuntu specific issues online
User5: <darylimjz> Right, I would agree with that
User11: well, that's why we're here
User5: <darylimjz> It's just that I was trying to customise and theme my desktop too much that I probably installed way too many unnecessary packages that destroyed it all
User5: <darylimjz> Can I ask tho, what exactly are "KDE" and "Plasma" and are they separate things?
User11: you'll find lots of themes at https://store.kde.org/browse/cat/104/
User5: <darylimjz> I'm in the Discover app center and I under "Plasma Add-ons" I see a bunch of themes that mention "for cinnamon desktops" so what's the big deal, and why are they there (I think some of those themes were what caused my problems)
User5: <darylimjz> If they weren't compatible with KDE Plasma, why are they even there
User11: darylimjz, kde morphed into plasma few yrs back, but it's still refrred to as kde/plasma
User11: cinnamon desktops..read about desktop environments, cinnamon is one . kde/plasma ia another as is gnome
User11: darylimjz, they're separate environments or desktops , not themes, ...themes are colours, icons etc that exist within a desktop environment
User13: Hello. Any ideas for why no nvidia-drivers seems to get activated on Kubuntu 19.10? Despte me trying to activate one, it always switches back to Nouveau.
User13: Seems I solved my problems, with help from #ubuntu. I needed to reboot to activate the driver. It may be useful if one would get notified about the need for a reboot, imho.
User15: Hey all!
User15: Am I even in the channel ? o_0
User15: Its too quiet for this many people
User5: <DarinMiller> people are logged in but probably away from their PC.
User16: And there is a saying about support channels..
User15: Ah, ok. Well, when anyone get's back if I could get some assistance with figuring out how to install kubuntu while using an nvidia card (GTX series) I'd greatly appreciate it. When I try to boot from the usb stick using non safe graphics mode it hangs at the kubuntu loading screen. Boots totally fine with safe graphics mode though.
User16: So just install in safe graphics mode and then see and try to install any proprietary graphics drivers.
User15: ya, but once I install it -- will it boot into safe graphics mode or am I gonna be looking at a black screen??
User15: I can handle booting temporarily into safe graphics mode if there is a way for me to install the nvidia drivers so I can game. I just dont wanna not have no video on boot T_T
User15: o/ back :P
User2: User15 did you have success?
User2: I have nvidia and haven't had problems with it for.... some years
User2: Sysinfo for 'valorie-Oryx-Pro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.17.4 on Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine) powered by Linux 5.3.0-24-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 3400-3407/3800 MHz, RAM: 11860/32066 MB, Storage: 324/1144 GB, 266 procs, 14.14h up
User2: I don't game tho
User2: oh, that doesn't give graphics
User15: No I do not -- not yet
User2: I have nvidia though
User15: back in a live session
User2: for 19.10 there is an option to install nvidia drivers right from the ISO
User15: gotta configure drive for kubuntu install -- keep getting a ubi-partman failed with exit code 141
User15: is it the third party install option?
User15: at beginning of installation package?
User2: I assume so
User2: I upgraded for the past few series
User15: Ya, I havent gotten past that yet. the ubi-partman error is keeping me from moving on
User2: dunno what ubi partman is
User15: Researching how to format drive i wanna install to with kde partition manager
User2: I just use the kde tool in advance of installing
User2: right, that's what I use
User2: usually with the help of someone who knows more than me about partitioning
User15: apparently its related to a driver/partition already having an OS installed or wrong file format. Would figure it would let me manage the partition from the installer but... apparently support forums and tickets indicate users are pre-formatting their drivers and having success
User15: do u know what flags I need to use?
User2: there is limited space on the ISOs, so yes, doing it with a full-featured tool is best
User2: I don't
User2: I have a tricky setup with multiple drives
User15: I have a windows recovery partition on this device...but it looks like I need to completely wipe it...
User2: so my son set that up for me and I don't mess with it
User15: ah
User2: and he's not here in the channel although I've been trying to talk him into IRC again
User2: kids these days
User15: hes prob more into discord huh
User15: I swear that thing is the modern IRC with a highend GUI. I've always been partial to IRC -- only reason I use discord anymore is because a lot of people use it for comms
User15: HEY! I just figured out alt + tab works like it does on windows yay
User2: :-)
User2: I <3 konversation
User2: unsure what he uses
User2: beyond Signal
User15: Ok...shreded the partition gonna try install again
User15: nope.... same error
User15: oh wait
User15: I didnt actually apply those commands xD
User15: I thought that went awfully fast -- was thinking "wow, that was a really fast format"
User2: ha
User15: I really hope this works out -- I've used ubuntu before in the past but always went back to windows because of literally a handful of programs I couldn't get / run on ubuntu. That was 5+ years ago though and from what I've researched gaming on linux is on a whole new other level thanks to the open source community and even valve
User2: yep
User15: I've ran into some people who say dont even bother with wine, get virtualbox and install windows on that
User2: it's no big whoop to just install and run Win in a VM now
User15: LOL
User2: I've done it for a few genealogy programs that are horrible in wine and won't run in linux
User15: Ya, I'll prob install a VM with windows for office and ONLY use  it for that. I'm gonna download wine + lutris for the rest
User15: err the rest being games
User2: ugh office
User2: not that libre office is great
User2: but better than win office IMO
User2: I hope the Calligra team reforms at some point
User15: Oh wait, maybe I won't install win on a VM -- I have access to office 365 thanks to work and was gonna get Ice SSB to run it like a native app!
User15: wait, no i gotta install win on a VM... i use vba on excel sheets...and i cant do vba on excel online
User15: do you know if I can run vba on libre?
User15: If I open an excel file in libre, will my vba macros and userforms still work?
User15: oh wait i can test that myself now! :O
User2: I have no clue to what you refer
User2: :-)
User15: Programming in excecl :P
User15: VBA stands for visual basic actionscript
User15: its what Im using to make the excel spreadsheets less intimidating to some of my co workers
User2: completely not my thing
User15: xD
User2: spreadsheets are the enemy
User2: and yet sometimes I must use them
User15: we all come to that sometimes :P
User15: some of us never left when we did xD
User2: google sheets is usually good enough
User15: anyone know terminal commands to format device? fdisk doesnt seem to be helping me much atm
User15: Yup -- no way around it. Can't keep my windows recovery partition and install kubuntu. Oh well, fuck it im committed lol
User2: !language
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User2: User15 ^^ plz
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