User1: someone got an idea why my firefox doesn't want to load the CSS and JS for http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/index.html?
User2: User1 do you have adblock?
User2: I had to whitelist that site
User1: ah
User2: bdrung pointed this out to me. Didn't investigatge *why* though.
User1: matches on "/sponsoring/*"
User3: heh, of course..
User4: does abp block all content external from the page by default?
User3: no
 * micahg has no idea then :)
User3: but this one hits one of its patterns
User3: as geser said, /sponsoring/*
User1: I should probably propose dholbach to "fix" the location as adblock is a common extension
User1: I'm that used to adblock that I didn't think of it blocking wanted content
User5: Folks, over in #tahoe-lafs we're discussing when to release Tahoe-LAFS v1.8.0.
User5: We were planning to do so Wednesday in the hopes of getting into Maverick, but it doesn't seem like we've got anyone who can do the work up upgrading Tahoe-LAFS in Ubuntu in that timeframe,
User5: so we'll probably delay the release of Tahoe-LAFS v1.8.0 by a week or so.
User6: you need to file for a Feature Freeze Exception if you want to break freeze
User6: (i'll be doing the same for my project)
User5: What project is that?
User6: wrote an app to teach sign language
User5: Dang, it would still be good to have Tahoe-LAFS v1.7.1, which is already
User6: its called gally
User5: YOU WROTE AN APP TO TEACH SIGN LANGUAGE? Sweet! :-)
User5: My wife was starting a project to do that.
User6: http://launchpad.net/gally
User6: i have one last thing to do for KDE integration before release
User5: It would still be good to have Tahoe-LAFS v1.7.1, which is already long since released, in Maverick.
User5: Instead of Tahoe-LAFS v1.6.1.
User6: is it not in debian?
User5: No. Is that a problem? People keep asking that.
User6: if it was in unstable, i would just request a sync, but nevermind
User6: you DO get more users if you have it in debian
User5: I see.
User5: I want it to be in Debian.
User5: But the Maverick deadline is coming up, so I'm focussing more of my energy on Ubuntu. :-)
User6: gotcha
User5: Well I have to hit the sack. I'm glad I discovered gally.
User6: User5 does your wife sign?
User6: User5 if so, have her join #gally  -- could use more folks working on lessons
User5: We both know a little ASL, which we learned originally to teach our babies.
User5: All hearing, just enjoy ASL.
User5: Good night!
User6: good night
User5: Help me with Tahoe-LAFS if you can. :-)
User7: ASL? Aetas Sexus Locus? ;)
User8: American Sign Language
User9: good morning
User10: morning
User11: jdstrand: ping
User11: jdstrand: I am trying to sync debhelper 8, the problem is that dh_apparmor manpage does not get built
User11: jdstrand: I found that the reason is that dh_apparmor must be executable, which is something I cannot represent in the debdiff
User11: ah, fixed it
User12: User17 Did my karmic test for wesnoth-1.8 (bug #600100)
User13: Launchpad bug 600100 in lucid-backports "Please backport wesnoth-1.8 (1:1.8.3-1/universe)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600100
User14: Hey MOTU. I'm Ubuntu-izing a package of mine in Debian. I put the "XSBC-Original-Maintainer" field in the control file, and lintain is whining about it. Any ideas why?
User11: User14 why are you putting the XSBC-Original-Maintainer for ?
User14: User11 I have diversions in place, I maintain Fluxbox and I did a theme for Ubuntu. I want to do a debdiff for you guys so we don't have to have Debian branding ( as awesome as my theme there is )
User11: Hello, I logged in REVU, yet I don't see a button or so to advocate an upload, does it require privileges other than MOTU ?
User11: oh, you are preparing a Debian package for Ubuntu
User14: User11 yeah, I'm an uploader in Debian on Flux, and I want to make it nice for you guys.
User14: since I'm @ubuntu and everything, y'know.
User11: well, just sync it then
User14: User11 then it has Debian branding.
User11: or there are Ubuntu-specific changes ?
User14: User11 yes, the Ubuntu theme
User15: User11 you need a revu admin to give you advocation righ
User15: rights
User14: User11 none of this really has to do with my lintian warning, though
User14: User11 do you know why lintian would complain about that tag?
User11: User14 are you sure you got maverick in the changelog ?
User14: User11 yes
User14: User11 AnAnt and XSBC-Original-Maintainer has been in since dapper series
User14: I'd think it would be in Lucid
User11: User14 I am using lintian 2.4.3, and I don't get warnings about XSBC-Original-Maintainer
User14: Let me get you my warning:
User14: W: fluxbox source: unknown-field-in-dsc original-maintainer
User14: let me pastebin the control file
User11: ok
User14: User11 http://paste.ubuntu.com/475913/
User11: User14 why remove uploaders field ?
User14: User11 I did not want to to get confused -- uploaders in Debian != uploaders in Ubuntu, I thought
User14: User11 after all, I'm changing maintainer, so I thought Uploaders might change as well
User11: Ubuntu doesn't make use of the field
User14: User11 so it's safe to leave uploaders intact?
User14: User11 my control file now looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/475915/
User11: User14 I just ran lintian, and I don't get the warning
User11: User14 probably you are using an old version of lintian
User14: Lintian v2.3.4ubuntu2
User14: So is it safe to ignore the warnings? ( does everything look OK ) ?
User11: well, I dunno why you changed the build-deps, is that an Ubuntu specific requirement ?
User14: User11 I just changed them upstream as well
User11: ah, ok
User14: User11 old libtool, I need to reconf before build
User14: :)
User11: I was comparing with the one currently in Debian
User14: User11 yeah the dfsg release is junk right now
User14: User11 I just repackaged and am going to re-upload as soon as this is stable
User11: User15 so who's a REVU admin ?
User14: thanks for the help AnAnt :)
User11: no problem
User11: User33 ping ^
User11: jpds: ping ^
User14: User11 he's out right now, getting ready for some stuff later on today :)
User14: ( nhandler )
User5: Okay, we release Tahoe-LAFS v1.8.0 release candidate 2. http://tahoe-lafs.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2010-August/004950.html
User16: 0_o
User17: User12 Approved.
User12: Sweet, thanks!
User14: Could I convince someone to review a package for me? I'm looking to get my changes for Ubuntu done in time for 10.10
User14: Well if anyone cares to donate some time, the dsc is in my ppa. dget https://launchpad.net/~paultag/+archive/staging/+files/fluxbox_1.1.1+git20100806-1~ppa2.dsc . I'd really appreciate a review.
User18: morning all
User19: hi ScottK! are you around
User19: ?
User11: User14 the revision should be -0ubuntu1
User18: if anyone's got some time, I'd appreciate reviews on http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/jobservice & http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/jobs-admin. both are gsoc projects and just need one more review. would like to get this finished up today, if at all possible. :)
User14: User11 it's ok. dholbach just helped me, I'm just going to change it upstream
User11: ok
User14: User11 thanks, though
User14: User18 good luck buddy :)
User17: User19 Sort of.
User5: Could anyone help me upgrade Tahoe-LAFS in Ubuntu to the latest stable release?
User11: User18 there is a quilt patch, is it intended ?
User11: User18 in jobservice
User20: User17 quadrispro will be back soon. He was pinging you about a package in NEW, font-manager. Mind taking a look at it?
User17: User20 It's already done (on #debian-devel)
User19: warp10, ACCEPTED by pitti, thank you anyway :)
User17: err debian/ubuntu
 * warp10 nods
User18: User11 both patches in jobservice & jobs-admin are a result of the manpage generation when setup.py is run, and are automatically stripped when built. wasn't sure how to remove them from the source before the source packages were built.
User11: User18 remove it in a clean target
User18: User11 ok, will give it a shot
User11: User18 override_dh_clean for example
User18: User11 that seems to have fixed it. however, that leaves jobs-admin.debhelper.log in the source diff, is that ok?
User18: (contains dh_auto_clean)
User11: User18 you override dh_clean ?
User11: User18 I think you forgot to run dh_clean in the override itself
User18: User11 override_dh_clean:
User18: rm -f jobs-admin.1
User18: User11 ah. :)
User11: User18 also, dh_clean accepts arguments
User11: ie. dh_clean jobs-admin.1
User11: so it would be a one-liner
User18: User11 ah, that fixes it. preparing another upload now
User18: User11 re-uploaded, only change is the rules file and the lack of patches now (in both)
User11: User18 for the override you'll need to depend on debhelper >= 7.0.50~
User18: User11 fixed in both & uploaded
User11: I: jobservice: package-contains-empty-directory usr/share/jobservice/sls/
User11: I'm not sure if this is important
User18: User11 that's intentional: it's intended for service maintainers to drop in SLS XML files there, but we don't ship any in it by default
User18: defaults are shipped in usr/share/jobservice/default
User11: in this case, either add a lintian-override , or you can create the empty folder in postinst
User11: User18 I: jobs-admin: capitalization-error-in-description dbus D-Bus
User18: User11 fixed those two up -- working on the last notice on jobservice (doc-base)
User11: User18 ok
User18: User11 fixed both up & reuploaded. hopefully that's the last of the lintian issues :D
User21: the merges page is still down :( damn
User11: User21 try using Debian's PTS page
User11: User21 you'll find an Ubuntu patch at the bottom, that would help
User21: I miss the overview :)
User21: the patches itself are still availible on the mom also :)
User11: User18 ok, advocated
User18: User11 thank you very much :)
User11: User18 thank you for the good work
User22: User11 did you upload jacob's packages?  If not I'll do so now
User11: User22 no, I didn't
User22: okay
User18: User22 thanks :) (for the earlier review as well)
User11: bye
User22: no, thank you for your contributions :)
User22: User18 now maybe you can bribe Riddell to take a peek at your packages and maybe accept them
User18: User22 hah, I'm sure it'll all happen in due time
User18: no offense to motu, but this is the difficult step ;)
User22: that's because no one looks at REVU anymore
User22: it's frustrating
User23: stalcup, Well what is the preferred method?
User18: heh :/
User22: I should encourage you to submit your package into debian as well
User22: User23 I look at review - however I was on an 8 moth hiatus
User2: the preffered method is Debian
User18: User22 I plan on it, just was a little rushed at the moment as this is the last GSoC week and I'm out of town for a few days starting tomorrow
User23: Makes sense
User22: User2 I see nothing wrong with accepting a package in Ubuntu first as long as it goes to Mentors
User22: but you know that Mentors can be just as long a process
User2: That there's nothing wrong with it doesn't make it preferred
User22: User2 There are people (like me) who only have time to worry about one distro
User22: I have upload right in ubuntu - and have to scramble for someone in debian
User22: it's a no-brainer for me
User18: true. I'm a little more lost when it comes to submitting to debian honestly: once you submit a package, it seems you need to know someone for an upload. otherwise it just sits as an open but report forever
User2: I think it's sad that you think like that
User22: in jacob's case, he is the upstream
User2: you should find a packaging team which is close to your area
User22: what do you mean Laney?
User22: I have a few packages in debian, and have long since given up on finding sponsors
User2: I mean that I haven't had a problem with getting sponsored as I maintain stuff in a packaging team
User22: ah, good point
User2: you should mail the derivatives frontdesk if you're having trouble
User22: maybe I'll do that, like I said ealier, I've been on an 8 month hiatus
User22: I know that one of my packages was adopted, which is fine
User24: does "debsnap scim-qtimm" work for anyone here?
User25: i have beem trying to install limewire for 2 days now but the installer keeps giving me this error message..... Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: sun-java6-jre|icedtea-java7-jre|sun-java6-jdk|icedtea-java7-jdk
User25: i just recently switched 2 ubuntu from linux ... i like it but am very unsure about how 2 use it...could someon please help
User25: ubunut from windows***
User4: User25 you should probably go to #ubuntu for support, but try enabling the partner archive
User25: i have been to ubuntu and read thru the support files... i do not understand... i dont kno how to use terminals or nething....and wat is partnert archive???
User4: User25 let's switch to PM
User25: pm?
User25: private message
User26: Is there a way to set someting in a package where (at run time) debug logging is enabled if we're currently in a development release?
User4: User26 add a wrapper?
User26: User4 I mean, is there a variable IS_DEVELOPMENT_RELEASE or something? :)
User4: User26 oh :), hmm, check if apport is enabled?
User26: User4 I was considering doing "status apport" and grepping for "start", but I don't think that'd work if we have localization, right?
User4: User26 you can check /etc/default/apport to see if enabled=1
User26: User4 but the user might have "sudo service apport start force_start=1"'d it this time.
User4: User26 right, that means apport was forcibly enabled and not the default
User26: User4 yeah. ideally, we'd like to have logging on that time too.
 * micahg leaves apport enabled all the time though
User26: hmmmm.
User27: 31
User27: grr
User18: User26 `cat /etc/lsb-release | grep development` ?
User2: not cat | grep noooooooooooooo
User18: well you could parse it manually for "development" then... :P
User4: oh, if it's in there, then source the file and check the proper variable
User18: ah, that works as well
User26: my naive guess is "status apport | grep start/running"
User2: you mean lsb_release -d, yeah?
User26: but I'm not sure if that will work the way I want on other locales.
User2: LANG=C lsb_release -d -s
 * RainCT doesn't think lsb_release is localized
 * sebner waves at RainCT :)
User28: User26 it takes the info from /etc/lsb-release
User28: Hey sebner, how are you?
User29: User28 fine and you? =)
User26: User28 yeah, but, more accurately, I want to enable debugging even if apport is enabled outside a devel release.
User28: Ah. Well just check wherever it is that apport is enabled/disabled
User28: User29 fine, at work.. :)
User29: User28 at that time? O_o
User28: User29 Yeah, I'm to lazy to get up in the morning so I'm coming here at 17h :P
User29: ROFL
User16: any advice on bug 603831 ?
User13: Launchpad bug 603831 in fprint-demo (Ubuntu) "Please Merge fprint-demo from debian" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/603831
User16: i think everything is alright..
User11: Hello
User30: hi, I'm trying to build a .deb package, but it fails on a --build option. http://pastebin.com/x4JRYbax Can I disable that, or am I missing an option. Googling for the --build line returns no results, so it's a bit problematic
User31: User30 please pastebin your debian/rules
User30: User31 http://pastebin.com/NBdq2h0w
User31: User30 don't call dh_auto_configure, call ./configure with the options that you want
User31: User30 dh_auto_configure is trying to give you helpful defaults
User30: User31 thanks!
User12: hmm. too lazy now that I know requestsync to do it manually.  %-/
User5: Oh good someone on #tahoe-lafs volunteered to upgrade Tahoe-LAFS in Ubuntu before the Maverick Feature Freeze.
User5: Then they said I should "remind them tomorrow".
User5: So we'll see if they actually do it. :-)
User32: Hi, could anyone please review the django-configglue package? It's a django application that allows it to use the latest configglue code to define settings in a more robust way. We are trying to get it into maverick hopefully. Thanks
User5: Oh, good, rockstar will jlewis@example.net. There is hope!
User11: Hello
User5: Hi AnAnt!
User11: wassup ?
User5: Finally found a hero to package Tahoe-LAFS.
User3: good, glad that someone has some time :)
User11: User5 ah, you're an upstream
User3: rockstar will still need to pass it by a sponsor, I think
User3: which is easier than convincing someone to do all the work :)
User5: User3 okay. Now looking for a sponsor. :-)
User5: One of the many awesome things about the new version of Tahoe-LAFS is that it can act as an SFTP server, which means Nautilus can browser your secure distributed filesystem automatically.
User13: Launchpad bug 615048 in nautilus-image-converter (Ubuntu) "Merge nautilus-image-converter 0.3.0-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615048
User33: User34 Still need me?
User33: err, ignore that angelabad
User34: nhandler, ok :-D
ubuntu-motu
Ubuntu IRC