RANK 6 GM IMBALANCE COMPAINT! | Is It Imba Or Do I Suck

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Dear Harstam, after nearing the peak of the NARCOM Grand Master Letter, rank 6, we realize that shield battery overcharge is completely and utterly broken. It should have its cool down increased. It simply makes no sense for ProDOS to be able to overcharge their shield batteries six times for a total of 84 seconds. In the time it takes to execute a typical, completely standard, uninteresting, almost boring, proxy 4wrex cheese. cheese thanks p and keel slash yole bolson our first ever arkon game let's uh hop straight into it i'm very excited we've never had an arconde game before and i've never had two players complain about one thing at the same time well i've had many people complain about Protoss ertos in different complaint forms but never two people at the same time in one complaint from that so that's kind of exciting rank six grandmaster on n a um in Arkham. So I guess their individual level if we can convert, what do you call that? It converts that to Europe would be mid to high diamond on a good day. And that's not even including Ping. If they would actually be playing from America, I think they'd be floating somewhere between platinum and diamond. Of course, don't want to give them American Grandmasters too much credit. Now, now that there's two people, I think I can be twice, twice as hard on this. them because if there's going to be any floating, any build order mistakes in a freaking proxy 4 racks, like, you don't deserve the win, my friend. If you have two people and you're making that type of error, that's not a bit of proxy gate coming out of a Yama slash meta, who are the opponents, I'm quite sure what they're called. I think you only get four characters in your name in Arcon. So just, well, I guess it's a standard proxy 4ax, like the execution isn't bad. It is just, it is what it is. It is a 4-Rex. I'm a bit surprised that they opt to go for a 4-Rex strategy because this strategy, you can literally play, like, if you're an actual gorilla with only a single arm. Like, this strategy doesn't require a second person. It doesn't even require a second arm. Some people say it doesn't require much more than three fingers. The thumb, to move the mouse, and then the two top fingers to click the buttons, you can kind of move the mouse with those as well. fourth finger would be nice, a little more control of the mouse, but really that's all that's necessary. I've heard people say that this build actually is executable by gorillas. Now, I haven't tried it yet. I haven't been able to find a gorilla willing. I did find a couple of gorillas who did injure me slightly after I tried asking them. So I thrown banana and slinging poop at me, but yeah, it's been, it's been rough, right? It's been rough. So they're actually waiting to go. That's also extremely interesting. So they're playing this cheese build and rather than deciding to go as fast as possible, they decide to just wade it out of it. They're not scouting with an SCV either. So this is just, they're picking a random timing here to attack. This is not like some scientifically decided timing. It's like, oh, when we hit the 8th Marine at at 2.36 we move out. Not like, he could have just scouted with one of the SCVs. The first adept doesn't come out until 220. So the second barracks that finishes you can just send that SCV out and see hey what's going on they would have seen nothing here and they could have just gone in cancelled these cancelled these batteries most likely did he see that I think they saw that two pairs of eyes guys two pairs of eyes oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh two pairs of eyes what were they looking at well like now I'm curious we're gonna have to go through the sequence three times so this is player one Look at this. This is his vision. Okay. He's looking here. So he can't see it in his straight vision, but he can still see it on the mini map. Now, player two. What is player two looking at? This is the macro player. He's building the marines and, but really he's just building marines. There's nothing else. Oh, I think he saw the edge of a stalker there in his vision. Okay, so two pairs of eyes, not paying attention to the mini map, not paying attention on their own screen at least one of them. Not sure who that guy is though, I wish you could call them out on their name, but you can't see who does what action. At least not in this overlay. So he finds these two stalkers going to lose a couple of Marines. I like that one guy's job is just a micro, and I haven't seen a micro once. Like, none of these units are actually being pulled back. None of them. All of these Marines, they just stand there, they stutter step forward. You'd assume that if a guy's entire job is just a micro-managed this, it would go better. but just like in actual life whenever there's a manager that perhaps micromanaging every single unit is going to be best the results tend to actually not be great because most managers actually have no clue what goes down you know at the normal people workplace it's middle management ugh disgusting you know what i'm saying i have a lot experience with that as well um all my life i've been working uh you know blue color white color jobs It's not like I've been a pro gamer for 12 years and really didn't do anything before that. I have a lot of real-life experience. I like to flex that every now and then. I thought this was a good opportunity to create some empathy with my audience, a connection. The common denominator, or common nominator, what it's called. Look at these marines going in. Look at these marines go in. They're going to, they could target. I'm not even sure what you're supposed to target. I just should go for the batteries. Yeah, you probably should have gone for the battery immediately. And then now you go for a couple of stalkers. I do like that. This was nice micro. Like, good target picking by the Terran here. He decided, okay, I first want to take out that battery, especially the super battery is important. Not the greatest micro by the Prodels, but the Prodals just, I kind of do want to stress this. The Prodals player kind of has a blind counter to what the Terran is doing. He stayed on one base and was just producing units from two gates against a 4-Rex proxy. like you're just kind of supposed to win so far by the way the super battery hasn't really contributed much to uh to this game i mean the battery just got taken out after it got activated it didn't really have an impact yet i love the i love that he just keeps going he's like i can't just walk up this ramp sure there's three stalkers i know there's another battery in the main base but yeah let's just keep keep walking up that ramp again and again that's exactly what he keeps doing Actually, he's getting a lot of results with this as well. It kind of surprises me. He's going to take out a bunch of these workers. I'm just not sure what the second guy is for. Wait, what? He had a supply drop? Okay, so there's one guy is in charge of move commanding the Marines and then right-clicking on stall. at the correct times. And then there's another guy that literally has one job. And that is clicking the Marines with the hotkey that he has for the barracks and then with the hotkey has for Marines and making sure he doesn't get supply blocked. And he failed at that. How's it even possible? This is the easiest build to execute. You're going to be floating a little bit of money. Like you constantly are floating a little bit of money. You see you can even already start the next Marine. You have so much time. Was he just watching the Marines fight? Maybe this is not an arc on as we know it, but it's just one guy doing the job, and then the other guy just watching from a distance to learn, you know, and then they swap after every game. I can't believe they had to use a supply drop here. Holy crap. How mentally deficient is this guy? Let's continue here. Yeah, we have a couple of gateways. Second overcharged battery here is being used. The probes are coming off the line. I'm kind of surprised that they are. I don't think they should have been. I think the Stalkers would have been capable of handling this fine. I'm also a little bit, I find it very funny that these two Protoss players, that already got their natural up, you know, they're just pumping out units. It's four Stalkers against six marines right now. This game is really just kind of over. Two base against the one. Yeah, this kind of is just supposed to, and I like this movement though. The TOS Micro has actually been quite good, good kiting, good target fire majority of the time. Oh, needs to be careful here. This is a little bit unfortunate for the Tos players. Keep pretending like it's a single Tos player, but it is really too. Yeah, this was unfortunate. Again, I kind of surrounded by that marauder. On the other side, of course, there's a lot of DPS. Warpgate is about to finish up. Maybe we're going to see some... I don't think we're going to see any war connection here, actually. Probably just need to be defensive. A couple of pings on the mini map, though. I'm not quite sure what those are for. I guess maybe that I'm here is where the other guy spawned. I'm well it's ranked six grand master arc on and they should know where the other person spawns on romantic side look at look at my career and bang bang shoots beautiful pullback on the marauder do you see that saw that the marauder was getting focused by everything decided to not pull it back here once again beautiful that is so great just kites it forward every single time it really is impressive i really find it impressive that one person can have his full attention on the task and then just not do anything. Like, he's just watching his units go. It's just so beautiful. I also kind of love the, what would you call it? Like, how natural it comes from for Terrans that whenever they do some type of cheese, is that they're just supposed to win. It's like Terrans always have this type of, this privilege, basically, where they're like, if I execute a build order, no matter what it is, I should be able to win. And no matter how well prepared my opponent is, or how good their builder there is against mine, this should just be a hard win. Look at this. Because of the supply drop, and because these guys, it just built a depot here. If there was no supply drop, instead of two depots here, these two adeps wouldn't have been able to gotten in. So this actually is costing our Terran team, a Crapton. They're kind of go for an SCV pool at this point. But yeah, I'm just so, this really is something that Terrans do, okay? I'm not over exaggerating. But I had it as well where I got proxy repop. like Forex Proxy Reaper and I scouted everything and I responded perfectly okay I chrono boost out my units I cut workers I build a battery and don't forget proxy Forex Reaper is a big cheese I build a battery and you know I defend without losing much of anything and then my opponent complains is like well I wonder what would happen with this strategy if this game was actually balanced I'm like well if this game was actually balanced and you proxy four of your initial structures on the other side of the map. I scout everything, do the perfect response, and don't make any micro mistakes. I hope the God that I still win that game. Like, you don't hear any of the Protoss players that Forgate or Cannon Rush every single game. And when the Cannon Rush gets stopped, go, well, if this game was balanced, my cannons would be shooting from my natural into your maze. Like, no. Like, we realize that we're cheesy pricks and, you know, we accept our loss. Like, holy crap, just man up, woman up. You know, just accept your defeat. every now than Terran players. You're pathetic. All of you. Yes, I'm generalizing, but that's fine when you're talking about Terrans. These guys have no soul. No offense. Well, kind of offense. No soul. Actually, it's a pretty big offense. I love the micro from the Prodos though. This Proloss has been doing a good job at kiting and target firing, but his movement has been a little bit off. I have to admit it. Okay, the movement hasn't been great. Now, we have Stim about the finish here for the Terran. We have two batteries. We have very little units. Actually, very little units, but with Guardian Shield to Immortals, can they just hold this? I guess this is... Stim is very powerful. I think it needs to pull the workers as well. Guardian Shields, Forcefields, four. The two guardian shields. And not even at the main part of the Army. Super Battery gets used a little bit too late as well. I actually think the Terran is just plowing through this. This is not great. Super Battery once again gets taken out before. it gets to finish everything um good pro was this a good pro pool i think when he saw that the sceivs came came down all the way he should have just stood at this ramp with with sentries right and for like your opponent is losing so much income if you just kind of hold your ramp with sentries you're going to be completely fine once again i'm liking this micro this toss has nice micro good control really good control it's just that the unit movement it's oh okay that was not it Oh, that was not it. Oh, good Lord, that was not it. I take back everything I said, hello, folks, the battery? Sometimes I wonder if Terran players actually finished elementary school, or as a collective, they just didn't finish it. Like, let me explain this, okay? The battery has less HP than it heals. And you also have the super battery, which gives even more HP than it heals. So if you are free to target a battery and you're not losing it, any time or damage targeting the battery it's always best to target the battery letting it stay alive it's just dumb it makes no sense okay i'm glad we got that out of the way um another miss force so that's kind of painful and now we actually have him oh no that's how we're gonna die oh the battery that was big that was big i pull the workers put the workers put the workers oh target target oh beautiful target shot that actually was really big that was a very important shot we now six workers against two but mules are still working this is an intense game by the way holy crap absolutely intense game okay what are we doing here i mean i feel like the terence are almost winning for supply that's what four marines three marines one more on the way super battery being used for probes And he's mining. He has to, though. He has to mine. He's going to go for a stalker rather than for a battery. Or rather than an adapt. It was waiting for money. Terran sees the battery, sees a stalker, and with two Marines, decide, hey, let me stim in and give a couple more shots before I realize it's time to run away. Why is he running down? No, no, buddy. No! No! Kite, kite? Back to safety. Back to safety. Kite. Shoot once. Shoot once, my friend. Don't go down, don't go down. You can camp the ramp, though. You can camp the ramp. He's going to, he's going to, you're going to lose. No, no, no, no, don't chase. Is he going to survive? Okay, he's going to survive. No, no, no, no. It's like every single time he runs back to safety. He goes back into the lion's cage, into the lion's den. Escapes it just to come back. Oh, this is, still has a super battery, I guess. It's going to help out. Target down the Marines. Oh, oh, no, he's going to go instead for the marauder first. I think the Marines have more GPS here, my friend, and also easier to die, easier to kill. Quicker to kill. Needs to be so careful here. One more shot. Scoot micro. Really, his single stalker control is really not bad. I think people might underestimate this, but this ain't easy. He's doing a nice job. This Terran really hasn't microed a single unit in his life yet. No. Wait, does the Terrans just win? There's no money. He should cancel that worker. If he can't cancel that last worker, I can get a zealot. It's not enough. How does the Terran lose this? He still has a mule. It's gonna be mining. I think Toss loses. No shot. These guys. Oh my god, I usually don't do this, but... These guys, okay, these are the lowest, these are the lowest guys, okay? They send in a replay in which they drop supply in an Arkong game while playing a 4-R-R-X. They win the game even though they didn't micro their units, even though we have a complete guy in control of microing. And then they have the audacity, the audacity to complain about Protoss batteries. How dare it? This is the problem with Terrence, guys. They're so privileged. Even when they win with a strategy that's not supposed to work, they get completely blind-countered. They still have the audacity to complain. Now, I think I've said enough about that, and we're going to go back to our second-time reporter. Joe. Joe, what are your thoughts? Alright guys, sorry for that. You see I've been promoted to Inba Inspector after my last fantastic call. Today we're going to be having another look. This time we have three things. All right. Strategy toys, macro and macro. Strategy choice. You went for the 4-Rex proxy even though you're with two people. Two people can do different things in different build orders. Here you only really could micro and macro. Why would you do that if you're playing an art? Argon game. You guys are ranked 6 Grand Master in Arcon and this is what you decide to do. That an A letter can't be too good. You guys get a thumbs down on the strategy choice. Macro. Your macro sucked. It's really all it says. It sucked. One guy in control of everything didn't even micro. Just stutter stepped a bit. No individual unit micro. No solid target firing. Thumbs down. Macro Garbage I'm not making the rules guys, I'm just reading them Your macro was garbage At a supply depot had to drop it How can you get supply blocked? You don't have to do anything All you have to do is build supply depots and build marines It's two actions With 10 APM you can do that You failed it You my friend sucked at the macro Altogether Suck on the macro Suck on the macro Suck on the macro Suck strategy choice. You guys suck. Bode yow. All righty guys if you did like this episode or visit him or do I suck, don't forget subscribe, don't forget to hit the like button and I'll see you all next time. 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Can YOU Beat This CHIMPANZEE?! | Is It Imba Or Do I Suck

Today one of our closest relative is venturing onto the battlefields of Ajur - a wild Zerg-Chimpanzee! The real question: Is he smarter than the average SC2 player? He does not whine on the Blizzard Forums, so he is off to a jump start! Also don't forget to hit like and subscribe to bring back our newest team member - Joe!  If YOU want to file a report feel free to use this form: https://forms.gle/UMK1udoo8Cfunnpt6  IODS Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbVNzAA7sXzCMxebUrgKN9dcsWlgQQmGf  Discord: https://discord.gg/uMssEXf5g7 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/harstem My second youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmwOm-YjCmcddE9xe9sEpUg Twitter: https://twitter.com/HarstemSc2 Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/harstem Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/harstemsc/  Edited by Hamster_Designs: https://twitter.com/Hamster_Designs  #harstem #SC2 #StarCraft2

Dear Harsden, the day on ladder, I ran into something that I did not believe was possible. I was matched against a Zerg player. But instead of being a human opponent, I believe the only possible explanation is that my opponent was actually a chimpanzee. Now, chimpanzees for the people who don't know are actually the closest relative we have species-wise to human. I believe researchers said that the DNA is like a 99% match with human DNA. I think chimpanzees and behind that bonobos are very close. So actually, this isn't even that unlikely. Like, it's, it is a possibility that there are some Zerg players that are indeed chimpanzees. At least sometimes seems that way, also at high level. So I'm not sure about Reynor, but he just play a bit like a monkey at times. Where was I? Well, his build order made no sense whatsoever. He went to base layer, did not use the layer for anything, and simply took a delayed third. Okay. He then took a fast fort base, but simply set his rally points on me and sent Roche Hydra across the map while, presumably, enjoying a banana. This replay clearly shows that Zerg is far easier than ProDos. I did not think it was possible for Apes to actually play StarCraft 2 and reach Master League. Clearly, I was wrong if they select Zerg. This replay was sent to me by a person called All for One, who's a Protoss player in European Masters, 4.6KM and 1. there's only one thing left and that's to hop straight into the replay so here we have mr all for one as my replay speed is a little bit low mr all for one here in the bottom right corner the the the blue Protoss player and he's going to be playing against uh well a red Zerg player look at that this guy's playing a proper opener and both these guys are doing absolutely fantastic i'm i'm in love with this game already guys look at the first pylon go down at the correct timing the first overlord went down at the correct timing this is almost looking like one of my own games except that this guy what did he just do look at look at this move this is a classic move okay my man builds a pilot goes back into the natural or goes back to return the minerals then the other probe goes in to build the gateway he does a switcheroo he's just long distance mining. This is brilliant. I'm not even sure how bad this is, but I've never seen this before. You can actually, if you're fast, you can get minerals, run back to return him and then build the gateway in time. But he has a different one. It's not the most efficient man in the world, but you know what? I like it. Some creativity here in the marketplace of ideas hosted by my man all for one. Not a bad play. Okay, let's see what this presumed chimpanzee has in store for us as Ogo Ogo. I can't this name is also not making it great. It is this guy is it is a real possibility guys. We're keeping it open. Okay. We're keeping a possibility of Ogo Ogo being a chimpanzee definitely open. He went into hatchery first gas spawning pool. My man here gets what he's playing real build orders. Okay. This is completely fine. Now what I want to pay attention to is first of all, desert builder. I want to see, hey, does this build make any sense? Because there's a possibility that he just went straight into layer, did nothing with it, and went into a third base. So I want to look at that. I want to see, hey, does the toss builder to make any sense? And I kind of want to measure these against each other. I want to say, hey, like which one was worse and presumably which one is supposed to win if we think about builders that make sense. So far, I really like what this Protoss is doing. He's just, he's even rallying, well, as I say that, he sends one into the gas, but he's, he's kind of rallying properly. Okay, never mind. Why would he do that? What actually is he doing? This is not at all how you're supposed to rally. I was kind of give him a compliment about rallying properly, and then I... He rallies to the other side of him. He builds a Stargate with a probe. He probably could have built that Stargate with the next probe that actually should have rallied down. He just does a lot of weird things in his probe movement, I have to admit. I don't quite understand why he does them. he's like the guy that invents the wheel again and then makes it a square like this is why people say don't reinvent the wheel because you're going to end up with a square like ladies and gentlemen I have a brilliant invention we can put this under vehicles it shows up with like or maybe like a hexagon or something like that you know so not quite a square it's better than a square but it's still like it's like the flintstones type of car I'm sure what type of wheels the flintstones had. I think even the flintstones had round wheels, but they were made of stone. Flintstones, meet the flintstones. Or it's the flintstones? I watched a show like once or twice when I was a kid, but that tune was catchy, wasn't it? Yeah, I was like, okay, straight layer. So my man Zerg goes into layer that gets scouted by the Protoss player. Now, I'm going to make... a bald assumption here, okay? And I think that the Zerg player wanted to do something with that layer, but then when he got scouted, decided against it. Okay? This actually is an intelligent play, because two-based layer builds, when scouted, are terrible. Like, they're just awful. So even though I think the build order of the Zerg right here is not good, I like the decision after starting with this, where he probably wanted to do some two-base opener, he decided to then follow up with, hey, I got scouted. I don't think I can do anything here. And he goes into a third base. And I actually think this is a very good decision. And maybe we could even blame the Protoss player a little bit for not continuing to scout with his adapt a little bit more, you know, seeing, hey, is there a third base coming up, what's happening? But on the other hand, how necessary really is this? I do like that he has pylons all across the edge, so he realizes, hey, layer is the thing. that he's going for, the possibility of erogenitis is definitely there. So he's getting ready for that possibility. And he has pylons all... This is the opposite of an artosis pylent. So for the people that don't know, an artosis pylon is a single pylon that covers a lot of building. So you have a single pylon powering like six structures, for example. So literally, he can't do anything about that. now finally going back home. And oh, there's one pylon powering all, oh my gosh. Rptosis entire infrastructure has just been shut down by a single pylon being sniped. Army moves into the natural and it's Gigi. Now this is the opposite of an artosis pylon. This is the all for one pylon. This is a pylon that doesn't power anything, which is by itself fine. But then he puts a second pylon next to it that also doesn't power anything. So now you have a completely useless pylon. I think we need a better name for that. And I'm going to suggest you guys to leave a good name suggestion for this down in the comments below. People that type are harsh than Pylon will get banned and it's not funny. No one thinks that's a funny joke. Okay. It's not original. It's not creative. It's the first thing I thought of you guys would do. You guys are so uncreative that I can already see what your guys wanted to type. There's three guys right now going, dang it, he caught me. Can he read my mind? Is this live? No. You're just that uncreative and non-fony. don't do it. No one likes you. And don't send me an email about it either. Okay, there's a little rant, not to do with this game. It's a bit of a weird build by the server. People that send me emails, very long emails, all in a sarcastic joke sense, making fun of me, are not funny. Stop doing that. I know there's two or three of you guys who do. They send me long emails and you just make I.O. this. about my tournament games. I didn't ask for this. I don't find it funny. You got to stop it. Okay? I'm not responding to you. Except, I guess now in a video format. Well, that kind of backfired on me. Well, this is the last time I'm responding to you guys. I'm serious. Don't send it. I completely thrown off right now. I wanted to flame some people, but I can't remember where I was going at the game. I should have a quick pass, see what this guy is up to. Forged Twilight A robot I don't even mind this build too much His work account is Fine-ish It's a little bit low But that's because he took his third base late Because he saw two base Two-base Zerg So I actually kind of like it His scouting has been Subpar He has no clue Now he sees these roaches He can send the void rays there So that's nice There's a bunch of adepts at home Doesn't really have anything else Why does he have so many adepts? adepts are like this thing that falls off so fast. The thing with adepts is, is they're kind of like the zip ties of construction. You know, zip ties are great for certain things, but you don't really want to use them to build the foundation of your building. And it's the same in StarCraft 2. They're great at holding your early game together. But if the guy that's in charge of constructing a house says that, hey, sir, in order to put these first two walls down, we're going to tie 70 zip ties together. It's a good time to request your money back and find a different construction, man. So, yeah, don't get too many adepts, is what I'm trying to say. Seven is really pushing it, especially if you're not going to use them to leverage any early game advantage you already were planning on. On having, or you already had. Is roaches coming? in do absolutely nothing. You see these adepts actually being useful, which is pissing me off even more. The only thing I hate more than adepts being useless is adepts being useful because then people think that they're good. I mean, a single battery would have done more, but yeah, it's still good. This is a very good start, okay? So the funny thing that, or the thing that always strikes me as funny, when people tell me that their opponent is playing a very suboptimal build is the fact that they basically just admitted to losing to someone that was doing a very suboptimal build, which means that they must have sucked really hard after the early game. Like, it makes absolutely no sense. It's basically like, imagine, okay, this is this, this is a great analogy. Imagine you're running a marathon, okay? And you're running against a guy that shows up two hours too late. And then 200 meters before the finish, he catches up. with you and he just sprints past you and then at the end you complain man i can't believe i lost to this idiot he showed up two hours too late it's like well you kind of admitted there to being so freaking slow that this guy could show up two hours late and still be faster than you and it's the same here like this erik has played a god-awful build i'm gonna just say it this build was terrible but he's still going to win the game against you which are mr perfect build order well perfect build order don't even want to say that like he might have showed up two hours late but you showed up without shoes because who the hell i just throw off my table we'll find it out later um you opened up with four oracles and three void rays you have no units whatsoever seven minutes and 50 seconds into this game he also only has a single hotkey no no hotkey he has no hotkey there's no unit in the world this guy he's getting armor upgrades what did this guy smoke is that the thing he's really thinks he needs right now is armor upgrades for his air this guy checks his doorstep sees like 35 hydrants and four roaches and he thinks the solution is to get armor upgrades rather than adding 10 cannons or something like that he's up like 20 workers hasn't scouted that he has absolutely no clue how can you complain about this look at this look at this movement he's just F-2ing them through his opponent's army that's absolutely fantastic to watch that's a great warpin as well these guys really did a lot this is unbelievable this is just absolutely incomprehensible I have you know what the weird thing is I don't even know what he really did wrong in a major way like he just had no units eight and a half minutes in the game you know it's like what do you say to a person that just builds nothing It's like you can't really critique it. It's like if you show up into your... Imagine you had to make a drawing for your teacher. And you show up in your art class with like a single dotted line in the middle of the paper. Like you can't... The art teacher can't give good feedback. Because there's nothing there. Like, you just had nothing. You did nothing. You produced zero. If we were in a society... And this game was your contribution. You wouldn't have contributed anything to society. Yeah. That's the worst analogy. It's the worst. And I know Hamster is not going to cut that out. He has Storm finally, which should be helpful. Storm is one of those spells that is beautifully easy to hit, but also one of these spells. that people seem to always miss for whatever reason, even though it's an instant cast. First, two good storms, that's beautiful. Like the opponent micros out. And then he morphs everything into Archons. Super Battery is it, realizes he has absolutely no units still. Transers works to his fort base. I love that this guy, oh, he's actually winning this fight. What the hell? Have I been jupped? I might have been juke. No, I haven't been. Back to not my. crying. Oh, both players are actually trying their absolute best to lose this game. No offense, oh go, go. I do like you, but holy crap, buddy. The move commands are getting a bit much. Double upgrades his offer him. Yeah, okay, so the toss just wins. Wait, have I been tricked? Okay, he can just build like, yeah, I was going to say like four Templar. You had him, maybe more of them into Arkham? Maybe sir? Buddy. Like we need units right now. Like this is not the time to wait for eight Templar to get energy. Dude. You gotta be kidding me. There's no way, right? Is he actually just not gonna do it? That is just wonderful. He's actually waiting for a storm, not realizing if he just had morphed four Archons and warped in ten more zealids. He would have completely destroyed this army. Look at this. He waited all this time. Okay? He waited all this time. And he decides as he hits 75 supply, that he morphed them into Archons. Okay. This is so insane. This is, okay, this is similar to imagine you need to go to a place. And the place is really close by. It's like a 500 meter walk. But you insist on taking the bus. Okay. So that's basically what he was doing, right? could have just morphed into Archons and he would have been completely fine. Instead he decides, okay, I'm going to take the bus. I'm going to wait for a storm. Then the second the bus arrives, he starts insulting the bus driver, pees all over the check-in machine, you know, where you peep your card, or if you still have the old guy that stamps your ticket, you just pee all over him. And then you jump out of the bus with a backflip and you start running towards the next towards where you wanted to go initially, where you could have run already half an hour ago. And then you're surprised that the bus driver gets out and beats you up. Bus drivers are surprisingly strong for sitting in a bus all day. These guys, they have some, you know, some power. You can see that often. You know, you don't want to be the guy that pisses them off in the end. I think this is, this is, this was not great. This was not, yeah, this really was not great. you know what I don't want to do this I I hear we have a new reporter who's going to take care of this on throw it over to Joe Joe are you there hello hello hello hello Kevin Thank you very much for throwing it to me. I am reporter Joe, and I'll be talking about whether this game was imbalanced or not. So let me take a look. His micro, his micro was not very good. He moved commanded, a lot, used a lot of F2. and in general, it didn't seem like he controlled units very well. His oracles did no damage. His void rays did nothing. And he also morphed Templar into Archons when they could have been storming. Two. Macro. I think his macro was quite good. He spent his money well and his early game game. build order. It was fine. We should not judge him poorly, give him a bad review on his macro. I think that was good. Game plan. His game plan sucked. He had no units. He built way too many air units. Even though his initial build order was good, he then just started doing random things without an amount of gateways. He spent his money relatively well for a long time but what he was spending his money on made no sense and it basically gave him a very very bad army so no the question was is this imbalanced or does it suck and I think the only truthful answer we can give is it sucked you sucked Thank you all for watching. If you did enjoy it, don't forget to hit the subscribe button, hit the like button, and perhaps we'll see Joe again in a future episode. Wait, I am Joe. And perhaps I'll come by in another episode if you get more than 2,000 likes on this video. Otherwise, Kevin won't be able to pay my salary in order to buy all these cool shirts that I definitely didn't steal from my girlfriend's closet while she isn't here. and she doesn't know I'm doing this. And I also threw the letters against the wall and it's sprawled across my room. Don't show this to Irene.


KOREAN GM IMBALANCES?! | Is It Imba Or Do I Suck

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Dear Harstam, I am a big fan of yours. Too kind. TVP is so hard to play. I believe most Terran, includes me, has the same situation that we spend most of time on practicing TVP, since the latter is full of Protoss, and get the lowest win rate on TVP. I want to say tosses every unit is Inba, especially Colossi, Disruptor and Carrier. I am not saying there's no way to beat these units, Terran can win, but the DOSUSS, difficulty of control is not equal. In this game the opponent just use the Phoenix Colossus build, sit at home, build lots of cannon and nuclear battery to defend and transform to Airtos. He means transition. I know it's impossible to win this by midgame push, so I just try to restrict this expand and expanding myself. I do get economic advantage by doing this, but when he gets 200 army supply, my army just like paper. He easily destroyed my army and pushed from his base to to my base finish this game. The thing that makes me feel unfair is that what he do is simply A-Move and use Disruptor VVVVV, which is the hot key for purification of the spell that disruptors use. But I have the EMP, Split Army to avoid Disruptor and shift carriers to win the fight. Some pro-Therent can do it, but it's too hard for me. I apologize I did not say G-G, but say in by the end of the game, since I really feel upset at that time. Well, first of all, this guy is Monukuma, Grandmaster Terran on the Korean server. First of all, Monouma, I want to compliment you on something. You seem to be more self-aware than 99% of the Terrans that send me emails. I get emails from bronze players that truly believe the reason they're stuck in bronze is not because it looks like they're playing the game with a single hand with the brain of a two-year-old chimpanzee, but because of imbalance. And with you, you do have self-awareness. You say, hey, I know that at the highest level, level. It is impossible. It is possible. But for me, it feels like the control is way easier from the proto side. And that is the reason I am losing, not because I played worse necessarily, but because my opponent's race is just a lot easier. So this isn't even really a complaint about, hey, this is in balance. But this is like, hey, it's what he is doing easier than what I am doing. And he has a lot of self-awareness in this entire piece. He even apologizes. for not saying Gigi. Usually people say things like they do the trick apology, you know. They say something like I said imba because I felt like he didn't deserve the win. But this guy says I said imba because I felt very upset at the time. He recognizes his own emotions and he realizes he handled out of that emotion, which I think it takes a big man to admit that. But enough talking from this useless content creator from the Netherlands. Let's just move straight into this game. All right. So we have, well, we're a Grand Master Korean level. These guys will know how to do build orders. And I think he was around 5-1, 5-2K MMR. So pretty decent player, you know, nothing to scuff at. But it's not going to be, it's not Maru. You know, Maru's like 16, 1700 MMR, more, something like that. So it's like, I should be capable. I feel qualified enough to handle this. I don't think I need the help of any of my friends yet. If you get anything above this level, then perhaps we're going to. I need some guys where I need clam or euthermal to truly explain to me the intricacies of the Terran race. You know, like hey, what's wrong over here? That's basically what I want to. But here I feel comfortable that I can still kind of do that. What do we have here? We have standard, pretty, well wait, this is a Nexus before core, I guess. Still pretty fast core. It's because he didn't scout early on, walked straight into a Reaper. Protoss not the brightest bulb in the box but then again a lot of people have been opening up with Marine first and sometimes you just kind of autopilot I can't I don't even mind it too much this looks well it's probably gonna be a Stargate because he said he opened up with Phoenix Colossi on the other hand we have our man playing Reaper into double Marine so double Marine what you do with double Marine is you kind of stop your opponent from moving out or if your opponent moves out with the adapt across the map you'll have two marines it delays your reactor a bit so delays marine production um but it does give you some nice defense against a faster that the thing is is that on romantic side is not really necessary the map is huge um so i'd say not necessary but i mean it's a it's a creative decision you know i'm not going to complain too much about that there's just a small point of people are aware of like hey this is something he could have potentially done different follow this up with um what does he follow Okay, well, he sees the Stargate. Still gets the Hellion. I wouldn't mind if instead of building the Hellion here, he decides to go into Tech Lab and go Cyclone Viking. But on the other hand, the nice thing about Helion is that you can scout the third base. So he sacrificed his Reaper to get the tech. So now he knows, okay, I'm going to need a mine. Okay, mine tech lab, I guess. And then a Viking here. but he can still see whether there's a fast third base Metafak? Okay, this is very odd and this is very risky and I don't really like it. Usually when you, like, then why do you scout if you're not going to change your plan anyway? This is the entire point of scouting instead of you can adjust your plan to what you're seeing. The nice thing is that usually the Viking comes out just as this bad boy arrives. So Marines hold, one base and then your Viking holds the other base. Now he even sees. He even sees the Medivac. A Viking is just simply better in my opinion. Better at stopping everything and you do need some units. Yeah, he's going to get a Viking now. Yeah, I'm not entirely sure about the matter of but it's something you know that if he doesn't lose the Medivac I don't even care too much. Opponents getting immortal. It's pretty afraid of some type of push I guess. kind of wonder what he's doing here. So we're seeing two more depots on. It's kind of getting some oversupply. And oversupply as Terran and Toss is really bad. As Zerg, it also sucks. But as Terran and Toss, it really messes with your infrastructure. So with Zerg, you won't have money to build units. But as Toss and Terran, it just delays your infrastructure. So not only is this base delayed, this is actually really painful, but also barracks two and three are super delayed. Look at that. That is just, he has so much oversupply, and all of these minerals invested in depots are not really paying off anything for him. It's like, it's laziness, basically. 69 out of 102. That is just really painful. He's going to get even higher. So the build order just isn't very tight here. I'm not saying that he could have potentially done some type of push, but he really is lacking. Raven? Okay, so he should be scouting with his halion and should have been scouting if there's a third base. The moment you see no third base, you know it's Phoenix Colossus. There is nothing else that Protoss can do, nothing else that TOS can do from two base with an Oracle opener, unless it's like a blink all in. But 99% of the time this is going to be Phoenix Colossi, especially at this level, and he immediately should realize this. Because of that, he kind of should have known that it's Phoenix because the lack of a third base. I'm not a big fan of this raven. The chance that this raven is going to mean anything in this game is very, very small. And the own... And mines? So, mines generally suck against Phoenix Colossi, because Colossi outrange minds massively. You can't really drop them because Phoenix get air control. So all the decisions so far in the early game have been crap. bad decisions from the initial scout response to then afterwards not realizing there was no third base knowing that that indicates that there's a phoenix a lot of the decisions here have been straight up crap we see that his stim and combat shield is extremely late there is zero pressure on the Protoss player here you could say well he opened up with triple cc yes but even with triple cc you see that the top terrants will hit you at 720 735 in game time with like 135 140 supply with plus one done, with two, three tanks, and maybe even a raven. That sounds like a very fair push. That sounds like a push that's very normal, even with one, one. Like, and hitting with that. We don't see that being the case here at all. We see our man isn't moving out on the map whatsoever. He's not going to be in time for that type of three tank push. That type of three tank push could have some potential if you keep your raven alive, but on a map like Romantic side, I would not recommend that. And I definitely wouldn't recommend continuing mind production. if you know that your opponent is playing something like this with the heavy phoenix colossi style with the very late third instead what you want to be doing is you want to get map control with quick um flexible units that are quick to change direction change rotation on the map basically and expand quickly yourself and then perhaps when you get 2-2 think about a mid-game timing onto a potential fort base this is something you can do or if you prefer playing like clam does you can get a fast second starport before Armory, way faster than this, and start pumping out Vikings, or getting a fast Ghost Academy, start pumping out like six Vikings and three ghosts with the enhanced shock wave while getting a fort base and denying your opponent's force. That is something that Klam would do. This push hitting almost a minute late with... Wait, did the Raven die already? Of course the Raven died, I'm not surprised. With only a single tank is not going to be able to do anything. have no push in this army. Okay, look, what is this? My man scans five cannons, two batteries. He knows he's playing against Phoenix Colossus, or at this level should be able to deduct that, knows there's going to be, it's eight minutes in game. Like, there's going to be some type of splash. How are you going to push into this without tanks? Like, you don't have the range. This means you're going to need to attack into this with your bioforce. You have nine marauders and 26 Marines. If there's any type of splash, you're going to lose everything. Even if it would have been stormed, this wouldn't have worked. But it's obviously not going to be storm. It's going to be colossi. This is like, if you're stuck in a fire and behind you, there is a fire escape. And in front of you, there's a door, and it's lit on fire. And you're just pushing into the door with your hand, trying to open the door again and again. There's, God, freaking burning my hand over here. How can I escape? It's like, it is just so stupid. it and there's absolutely zero reason for you to do this you just don't have the range to attack into an army like this and don't forget that the moment you scan five freaking cannons and two batteries we can do some simple math potentially some simple math five cannons is 750 minerals two batteries is 200 minerals add those two together that's 950 minerals that are wasted or invested into defending this area. That means this amount of minerals is not invested into infrastructure. It's not invested into units. More cannons over here. All of this money is not invested anything. The moment I always tell myself when I'm playing PVP, if I see three cannons on my opponent's base, I get a free nexus. That is the type of thinking you should be doing in your head. It's like, hey, I see five cannons here. If I don't use this area to attack, into, that's an investment. My opponent is not getting back, and I can even snowball that. Like, if I see he's investing, in this case, 1,250 minerals or so, I can get, like, two command centers, and that snowballs my advantage more into a midgame, even. It's a example. I wouldn't actually recommend getting two command centers, but that's the type of money trade you can do, like, if you don't attack into it. Now, instead, what he does is he's like, hey, my opponent invested a lot in defense, rather than finding an alternative way to get ahead, let me just push into this defense to make sure that it was worth it for him. So here you see that this engagement by itself kind of made this investment worth it. No fourth base on the way? Builds the fourth base on the third base location rather than on location. He sees his opponent as only investing in defense. You can play as grie as you want. You can throw down a CC here. You can throw down a CC here. Why aren't you doing that? No, instead. Don't get me wrong. I like CCs on the high ground. I like CCs here. But not in this situation. You need to be able to think situationally at this level. We're talking Korean Grand Master, my friend. This is not Little League anymore. You're here with the big boys now, buddy. It's time to step up or step down, you know what I'm saying. Mine's still here as well. No alternative form of harassment either. No like mine drops. Sure, there's two cannons here, but you can dodge that. Go over here. try to drop in the main base get a few very often i like this very often harass in tvp doesn't even necessarily give you damage or plus plus like positive damage so it doesn't necessarily give you 30 like worker kills but what it does give you is it gives you information you see hey something is researching here that's nice what is that then you go in here and you see hey hey there's carriers building that is interesting that is something that interests me very much even you get scouting information And this is the first time since his Reaper went in that he got any real information. That's because of the lack of harass. It's because he didn't want to go in. And I can understand that when there's phoenixes. But if you're pushing here with a big army, maybe you can send in a little mind drop into the main base or into the natural into the main base. Like cannons are static defense. That means they can't move unless you're a Zerg player and your buildings can seem to move, no problem. Nice static defense zers. Why does no one ever send an IOTIS forum about that? Just like, hey, why is it? it called static defense if it can move i would immediately just go like that would be a 15 second episode that would be like just clapping and i get all the proto pro gamers just to record like a 10 second session of them clapping in front of the camera it's like game set and match you know like completely fair but no one thought of that now instead they're complaining these guys can't move just fly around it it absolutely makes no sense it's like a guy with no legs chasing you with a night It's like it's not that dangerous you know it's not possible he can't move it's not possible to just attack his own probe doesn't does seem to be the case we have two upgrades ghost academy three Vikings this army this army just doesn't make a lot of sense does it Okay, so if you're going to push with a slow pushing army, like this is a slow pushing army, okay? I respect that. Let me just explain the thought behind it. So what you do is you shoot from a distance into static defense while you have enough Marines to kill all the interceptors. And the tanks are doing the hardlifting. You know, they're killing stuff. And when he attacks with either interceptors or with phoenixes, you have well-upcrated Marines to deal with that. In that case, what you need is, A, probably more tanks, which is why I didn't really like the mines initially. You need a couple of Vikings, which he does well, and maybe even slightly more Marines, but having some marauders, like 12, 30 marauders isn't even that bad. On top of that, you add turrets into this push. Turrets are such powerful static defense against air that it becomes very difficult for the Protoss to attack into that position. If you manage to deny this base without losing your army and slowly pushing forward, yeah, that's a big freaking new. Someone like Maru does this a lot. I know that because he did that against me, like five times when I played him last winter in TSL. I played this style. I know what the weaknesses are of this style. And the style is poor economically. It is difficult to get bases going. And once you start trading against the Terran army, it generally becomes bad for the Protoss player. However, there's no static defense here. He just denied a fourth base. He's setting up his own fort, his own fifth base. It's getting more batteries. I like that. Where are the upgrades for air? I would have preferred seeing attack upgrades, ship weapons. But at this point, basically what you're doing, you're sending out an army on the map, which is this army had a goal of denying a base or attacking a position, very slowly sieging it, basically setting up a position with turrets, with bunkers, maybe even a sensor tower so you can see movement, and then using the tanks to see. forward he used that successfully here minus the turret part but then once he pushes up here rather than using this same the same mindset he just kind of starts moving forward a little bit too far in my opinion with his marauders and with his marines now he's doing it properly again okay I kind of like it but without turrets it still is very very tricky and you could say well you can just throw disruptor balls from a distance that's true but it's very tricky to hit tanks with disruptor balls and on top of that, you can't ever engage into it if there's like 12 turrets here. And Luke, he definitely would have had the money to get 12 turrets here. That wouldn't have been an issue. And every time you kill a tank with disruptors, the other guy can just rebuild the tanks because I mean, our man has two factories. Two tanks are in the back currently. So this fight should be really good for the Terran. If there is five, six, maybe even seven or ten or twelve extra turrets here, all of the interceptors will disappear. Vikings will do all the work shooting down the actual units. Even now the fight is kind of fine. Like you're fighting, you're trading, which is good because you're outmining your opponent so massively. He's getting Thor's? Oh my god. This is the type of guy that fell asleep when they explain that Thor's are not a thing against Toss. Thor's actually just suck against Toss, okay? I'm sorry to have to break it to you. Also, can just have a quick look at that fight. What did my man actually do? So he was, he kept talking about, Let me read what he said. I'm just, I'm getting pissed off already. He easily destroyed my army. The thing that made me feel unfair is that he simply A-move and use Disruptor VVVV. But I have to EMP, split army and shift carriers to win the fight. Okay, so he mentions three things. EMP, split army and shift carriers. What did he do in this fight? What actually did he do in this fight? He moves up. Okay. It's just, what this is first person is? You know, let's just first person this, okay? What does our man do? He has no EMP. So that's one of the three things that he complains about. He doesn't need to do. He forgot to build ghost, okay? No ghost. He doesn't split his army against disruptors. He just runs back. And what are his Vikings? Oh, can we get a zoom in on the Vikings here? Are these Vikings shift-clicking carriers, or are they just aim moving into interceptors? Look at them. Look at them. Does this look a Viking with a mission? Or like a guy that, fighting off mosquitoes, like when I'm going for my run next to the water. That's more what it looks like. I don't think these Vikings got a single targeted shot off. This was their first targeted shot. He didn't do any of the things he was talking about. Zero, none of them. This is rewriting history, my friend, and not the good type of rewriting history. Usually I say that the winner writes history, but apparently the loser can also write history, as long as no one fax checks him fact checks him facts checks well i'll accept it see there's a still still is in a fine position is ahead should just get a second armory get ship weapons upgrade continue upgrades his opponent is only on plus two pretty crappy mining you're completely fine dude you could have continued with this plan of just tank viking marine emp i mean it worked out while getting loads of marauders not having any turrets, it's really not that hard to just shoot with tanks, the tanks shoot by themselves. I can assure you that. I tested this many times in the unit tester. They actually do shoot by themselves. Thor's are just not the answer. Thor's are not the answer. And the reason for that is because disruptor skill too well against Thor's. Thor's are very good against carriers, if there was only carriers. But once disruptors are there, Thor's actually don't scale very well, because the toss can do this crazy thing which is just throw the balls at the disruptors and tors are difficult to split because they're so slow i admit that they're difficult to split just play viking marine viking marine ghosts could add some marauders and get like five tanks and just push with tanks with with turrets as well it's such a powerful combination look at your upgrades on the marines the damage output of these marines who by the way never die against interceptors the way that you fight heavy marine viking armies would be with storm not with this type of army. It's getting cloak. Does you have enhanced shockwave? He has enhanced shockwave. Still not getting any ship weapons. Instead, it's getting two extra EMP machines. I also like this, by the way. This is a good move. You understand what you're doing. But the rest of your, this is cool if you have two armies of similar size that are doing this on opposite ends. Because then you're multitasking. Very often Terrans, this is, this is, very often when Terrans say that they're multitasking, really what they're doing is they mean that they're out on the map with an army. that isn't their main army. This isn't multitasking. This is single-tasking with your second army being at home. Everyone does that, okay? Multitasking is if you have two armies. This, I kind of like this, except rather than having five tanks with this army, you have freaking four thores or how many? Yeah, actually, which are completely useless. Like you literally only three, four tanks, then you force your opponent to attack into you. Right now, you can't siege your opponent, because you have nothing to siege with. Your army... I'm not too sure about this fight, actually. It's going to take out this base, but... It's going to be rough. Let's take a look. A couple of EMPs going down. Good EMPs, I have to admit. He didn't stim yet. It's going to stim now. Turrets are putting in some work. There's no Vikings, once again. I don't think we've seen a single split here. I don't think we've seen any Viking targeting. And the Thor's are completely useless. because their upgrades suck. Yeah, this is just the win for the toss. I mean, I'm... And even then, it's not that big of a win. It's like, it was a semi-close fight. Like, resources lost isn't that far off. If you just had mined more and gotten a slightly better army, the resources lost is really even. Once storm gets into here, I'd kind of agree that this army is difficult to beat. and it becomes really difficult to engage but that wasn't the case like this he had no intercept this was a really close fight except that you just had so much supply wasted in thor's rather than either in vikings or more ground units your turrets weren't done yet like and you didn't have enough tanks really to shoot at the disruptors if you have three three four tanks here and you just micro back okay so let's just have another look at that fight okay the way that you want to fight this is that you don't want to fight the ground army because the ground army is good against marines so what you do is is you fight the interceptors and all you need to do is dodge the disruptor shots and you run back towards your tanks and your turrets so either this guy needs to walk into tank range and he loses the disruptors or he needs to attack without the disruptors into the turrets and the marines which will just destroy interceptors instead what the Terran does here is look at it is that he just stands forward he eats he's hands have a disruptor shot. Turrets are helping a bit. This disruptor shot, yeah. Okay, that's just the disruptor shot that kind of killed it. So he didn't split. His Vikings didn't target once. He did E&P. So he did one out of the three things. He forgot the stim temporarily at the start as well. I mean, I, okay. I'm actually gonna give him something here, you know? I think this game. It's not even over yet at this point, by the way. What he could do at this point, what the way is right now, is you rebuild Metafax, Marine Marauder, and you just go for base trade mode. There isn't a lot of static defense on these outside bases, and there's not a lot of mining. If you can just force a base trade, you actually win as the Terran here. Instead, he's going for Thor's, which are slow units. Now, what I am going to give to him is if you get into the situation where there's storm, disruptor, Colossi, Tempest, Carrier, mothership, and he needs a second hand for that. So you need six types of units. and oracles, seven types of units, it becomes very difficult to fight for the Terran, but not because the control is harder, but because the army of the TOS is so all around, tempest with a large range. But don't forget, tempest would need a separate control group, oracles would need a separate control group, disruptors would need a separate control group, the main army separate control groups, and they already mentioned Storm, and Storm. I think you need four to five control groups to control that army properly. So it's not even that easy to... Like, this is an easy army to control, but it's not a very good army, and you can see it in every fight. Like, the army is bigger. It is fighting against a guy that doesn't micro at all, and has the wrong army composition, and still the traits are relatively even. Like, I really am willing to give it to you that I think the toss fights are easier. If you get to that late game stage, where if you hit a storm on Vikings, that's massive, and an EMP doesn't do the same. because it doesn't inflict real damage, it's just shields. I completely agree with you there. And you could even say that that ultimate late game is TOS favored, maybe even a little bit imbalanced. I could say, but to say that these fights that you've been taking this game were easier for the TOS, I'm not even sure if that's true. I can grant you a lot. And maybe you could grant it to Zerg players where the Zerg army actually is pretty difficult to control, but the Terran army you've been building, you've just been one control group in this. Every single time you engage, I see your Viking stutter step together with your Marines, and the fire rate of Vikings and Ghost is just very different. It is not the same. I'm empathetic because it feels difficult to fight this army, and it's frustrating, and it's annoying, but, I mean, was this really that much easier for him? Did he really suck more than you? And did you really do any of the things that you said you did? Like you said, sure, I can't control perfectly, but at least I did certain things. But really, at the end of the day, you didn't really do much of anything, honestly. You just kind of sat there and took it. Took bad engagement, built bad armies, got the wrong upgrades, didn't realize what was happening for such a long time, took bad fight, didn't snowball your... advantage at all and I feel bad because I feel like this is one of the first people that I've ever had in this series that was self-aware he realized he made mistakes he didn't seem too sure there was some nuance it was not a straight-up okay this is completely broken toss is insane no he was like I sucked a little bit maybe and it's painful I wish I wish I could have I I really wish I could have, but my friend, as we're nearing the end here, and I guess you said what, this is Imba. I'm afraid that once again, this just isn't it. This really just wasn't it, my friend. And I'm just thinking back, is there anything I can say for you? So your early game was good. You scouted, but then you responded poorly. You responded poorly to your scan seeing six cannons. your first move out was bad your second move out was good but then the second part of that move out was bad oh yeah here you go with the imba your opponent wins um i i your fights are generally quite awful he started building thor's you didn't get ship weapons upgrades i don't think you have a separate control group for vikings like i'd love to give this to you i really would but i'm afraid my friend that you just suck and that's just uh that's the way the cookie crumbles and my good friend jim carrie would have said that's going to be it for this episode with lots of empathy i say it is Korean Terran also he is on the barcode but let's not forget that as a grandmaster play it can be difficult to send these things in because people tend to make fun of you a little bit more so big big shout out to you there my friend for sending it I salute you that's going to be it for today if you did enjoy this episode don't forget subscribe to the youtube channel don't forget to hit the like button subscribe leave a comment down below what did you think of the game am i wrong am i right spoiler i am right and hopefully i'll see you all next time bye-bye


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Dear Captain, I'm gonna complain about Mac Terran. I met a Mac Terran on the ladder. He played Hellbeth, plus Tank, plus Tor. With his first and second push, I defended with Immortals, basically flank with Immortals plus Zellat. It actually worked well. With that advantage, I transit into Airtles for late game, as I suspect he might go for Liberators. Or battle cruisers. Terrans normally would do that. But he kept on Thor production, and Tours are so good against Carriers and Tempest. so I end up losing it. People are saying that zealots are good against MacTaron. I doubt it, as zealots are so vulnerable against Hellbat or Tank. If my opponent have mines, I don't know why he decided not to go for them, it could be even worse. Is Immortal the best choice for late-game PVT Mac? But using Immortal sometimes ends up in fighting tank range, which is not a good trade in his second push. Is Airtos just a worse choice in this scenario, or simply my micro sucks? Late-game protels would need tempest or equivalent, equal villain to snipe tanks, right? P.S. I said, you may Gigi, mocking my opponents at around 11 minutes after his first push has failed. But actually, I'm the clown. Yours, Tico. So he already is admitting to being a clown, and he said that he bad-mannered his opponent while losing. I mean, yeah, you love to see it. Let's just hop straight into this replay, I guess. What do we have here? We have Tico C.H. This is a game, by the way, played on Diamond. I think Diamond 1 on the Chinese server, so another Chinese replay. And you know that the Chinese replays never seem to ever disappoint. For whatever reason, the Chinese replays are just simply superior. And I'm really looking forward to this. He said he's struggling with Mac. And, okay, he did something. This is, let me, let me just pause it right here. Let me just go back at it. He did something, which I always love to do as well. What he did here was, if my opponent have minds, I don't know why he decided not to go for them, it could be even worse. This is the type of stuff you do when you're arguing balance with one of your friends. I have this often when I'm talking to Xerks. And I'm like, hey, how do I beat the queen walk? And they'll be like, well, you open this route. I'm like, okay, but if I open this ruptor, how do I beat muta? Well, like, well, then you scout and you get Phoenix. I'm like, okay, but what if I get Phoenixes? And then they just play Reveger Ling Baines. Like, well, then you get this. Not realizing in that case that all you really need to do a lot of the time is to scout. Like, you can react to things if you scout. Just because someone doesn't do something doesn't mean he's an idiot, it means he picked a different strategy. So it's a little side note there already for you, Tico. Just because you don't understand why he didn't go minds, doesn't mean it's necessarily bad. In general, actually, mines tend to be quite bad in Mac compositions because they can't really attack into an opponent. They have very short range, things like Disruptors completely destroy them, and even things like good zealot flanks are just kind of good against them. So, yeah, I would not really suggest mines a lot of the time as disruptor really is just a very big hard counter. Now, why is this guy opening with the CC on the high ground? I'll explain why this is not optimal. I usually don't like giving too much feedback on the player who didn't send it in, but if you build a CC on the low ground, after you play Barracks, no gas, your CC will always finish before anything can hit it, because you didn't get a gas. I think this build in general isn't great, but if you're going to play this build, it's probably best to play it on the low ground or to put it in a space where your opponent can't see it. So in that case, you're kind of pretending to be one basing. I don't even mind that too much. You just go a fast, full depot, well, maybe that was the plan. You know what? I kind of like this. I'm fine with this. I take back everything I said about my man Ziac. He's an all right dude. Okay? You have a proxy gateway. Oh, he's playing the departing three gate build order. Which is, I actually made a guide on this a while ago, and this is a good build order. Let's see how he actually does it, if he does it correct. I can't quite remember the exact. I think this looks pretty okay though. He's getting his gateway in time. He's getting Chrono Boost ready. He's staying on one gas, second Chrono Boost at the appropriate time as well. He didn't scout, which I actually think is perfect when you're playing this build because you need all the money that you can get. Now it is important that you're almost continuously building workers. He got a couple of workers there. He still is cutting... Hello, you have it selected. There we go. Taking your time. Yeah, this actually looks relatively good. Good opener. I like this. This is nice to see. He's actually playing a build order. First warpin should finish, I believe, at 318. I'm not sure if he's going to be able to make it. I don't think he's going to be able to make it, but even if he's a little bit later, that should be absolutely fine. You get five adepts on the other side of the map at around 325 in their natural, 3.30 latest in their natural. We see that he's a little bit delayed, but he actually did a very good job executing this build order. I mean for Diamond 1, 4 seconds late in a build order, that's absolutely fantastic. Okay, well, you forgot one at that. Okay, maybe he's 10 seconds, 12 seconds late. Okay, that's a little bit less good. Especially because we're only three minutes into the game. Oh, this guy's falling already? Whatever. I mean, yeah, it's not great. But, I mean, it could be worse. He also has been cutting workers for the past five minutes. It feels like he's actually downing workers. I didn't even know that was possible against Territ. but our man Tico is actually managing to do it. I mean, he has as many adepts as his opponent has marines. How is he losing this fight? Maybe we would stop stutter-stepping for half a second. He would have already won this with way less lost. How did he lose this many units? He should have absolutely destroyed this with like four adepts remaining, I think. Now he's getting stalkers, but the tank is out, yeah. It's the end of the party. I mean, he continued work. Honestly, it's not a terrible start. I feel like he should have had more workers. And if he had microd better, he probably would have been able to straight up kill his opponent. Or if he warped in the three stalkers a little bit quicker as well. So it's like literally four or five things that he could have done that would have just straight up one in the game, either probing up far enough, microwing his adepts or getting the stalkers about 10, 15 seconds faster. These three things all would have put him in a position where he's super far. Right now he's just regular head. He's not super far ahead, just regular head. He doesn't quite know if his opponent has a star port He does know his opponent as a factory and has an eBay in the wall But he doesn't know much else yet. So very often with little information it can be quite tricky and You know so far I actually think that Tico has been playing a little bit better than his opponent His opponent did a build order that didn't make a lot of sense had a lot of oversupply which meant that he had very little units very often if you're in investing too much in infrastructure or in things like supply depots, you end up with way too little units, which is kind of what happened here for Zach, Zayak, excuse me. Or maybe this is, he writes everything in capital letters, except the L. So his name is actually Zlag. Zlek. Possible. Would be a good one to trick casters. You sign up for a tournament. Everyone pronounce your name as Zayak. They complain to the organization that is pronounced slack Because it's actually a non-capital L You get all the casters fired Then you sign up under a different different nickname as a community caster And with all the casters fired You now made a career in casting That's how easy it is to get something done in e-sports guys A lot of people ask me like hey how do I get to working in e-sports And my men's slack here Honestly had a pretty pretty decent idea I like it and he almost caught me as well because if he would have sent an email and it's like, hey, my name is pronounced Slack. Give me your YouTube channel. I would have been like, well, that's a fair deal. I did mispronounce your name accidentally. So, yeah, I kind of like the plan there. So if you too want to work in Esports, that might be a good tip for you. Smart. Of course, the Esportscasters are also watching this. They'll be on top of it. Maybe it's a meta game a little bit. So it actually is a capital I. And they're pronouncing your name as Slack. and there's a no no it's Zyak and you got him I don't know why people watch these videos you're getting three cannons you love to see it so you scout the fact that your opponent has four command centers and two production facilities a total of like four units and your brilliant idea is to get three cannons on the far left side what does this even defend like I always okay whenever I look at this type of thing I always try to think what is the most positive interpretation of this move okay so imagine our man's leg decides to move across the map and is very keen on attacking this specific location I'm not even saying in general the third base but up this specific ramp which would be very weird with Mac because I think the natural pattern would be more towards middle. But if he decides to go up this ramp and then forgets to move back his units when he sees three cannons, these three cannons are going to be a golden investment. I can tell you that much. However, if Slack decides to go up here or, God forbid it, goes into the natural, Tico actually has nothing. This is a 450 mineral investment that's doing nothing for him right now. Those could have been gateways. This could have been an extra nexus. I mean, he's seen freaking four command centers, four orbitals at this point. already and his response is to build three cannons at a location that only defends this very specific ramp that never sees an attack. Impressive decision-making. Daily reminder that he only has six units so far. You know you're usually in a bad spot if your opponent has more tanks and Thor's than you have gateway units, especially if you have no other units whatsoever. Zlag could just move across the map at this point, aim move, pull the SCVs, then dance, drop mules, fly one of the orbiters, fly one of the orbiters, to the other side of the map, drop mules with that orbital, land it. What's the up motion? Lift it, then land it again, and still be absolutely fine. Slack is absolutely light years ahead here, Tico. You're doing nothing correct. How is it possible that he's constantly behind in workers? He just doesn't build workers. Look at this. He just doesn't build workers, getting a Ford base now. now it's like man so difficult to afford fourth basis because he built three cannons here earlier because he hasn't been making any workers he's just down 30 supply well he's the only one that did damage so far so the game basically with the parting build what you want is i what i would want is to deny a little bit of mining and kill two three workers that's it my man killed seven workers okay he killed seven workers this is like okay so when i buy a when i buy a lottery ticket which is very rare let me state that in lotteries are scams if you're addicted to lottery ticket buying now's a good time to quit what's I gonna say if I buy a lottery ticket okay the best case scenario or a scenario I'm happy with is when I retrieve the money back that I invested into my lottery ticket okay so I go in pay a lottery ticket or scratch whatever they got five euros nice same amount of money as I'm happy with that I didn't expect that much I was hoping for that. I didn't expect this much. However, my man Tico went in, got the scratch-off ticket, got $5,000 and I was like, hey, that's brilliant. Let me just keep buying more and more lottery tickets until I lose all of my money. And that's exactly what Tico so far has been doing in this game. He just keeps buying more and more lottery scratch-off tickets. I'm sure if those are called lottery tickets, until he lost all of his money and boom, there he is. Down 30 supply, equal amount of workers. For whatever reason, he's getting armor first. I'm not sure why. So usually you want to get armor against units with a high rate of fire because then the armor works multiple times, right? Imagine you have one unit who does 50 damage every second, then one armor will make it 49 damage every one second. Now imagine you have a unit that shows 20 times per second and does five damage, then the one armor works 20 times there. So it's minus 20. damage per second for that one unit. If you're playing against Mac you mainly want to be investing into attack upgrades. Armor upgrades simply aren't that useful against tanks and tors. We have very high impact but slow rate of fire. Yeah, my man's luck, nothing has happened this game by the way. Tico is completely unaware of what is happening as well. He's getting four stargates. So he scouted four factories and his response is to go up to five immortals, six stalkers, five zealads, then throw down four stargates, which gets scanned. And then I guess start building tempest from there. You love to see it. Also has 1200 gas in the bank, by the way, which zealots are good against, uh, against Mac, but what's even better is zealot-Arcon immortal. If you attack a hellbat tank Thor Terran with a flank with Zelet Arcon immortal, equal supply, and you actually flank so you don't just walk through a choke, there's no way in hell you're going to lose, unless maybe you're down 20 supply, but that's a different story. Here we see my man Tico, aim moving into an unseached terrain, and yeah, he's just going to absolutely blast this. This was a nice fight for him, by the way. Should have probably used Guardian Shield, but it's not the biggest deal. Like I said, plus two armor is nice, but doesn't matter too much against tanks and Thor's. So he kills absolutely everything. He loses almost nothing. And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, he's in a fantastic position this is one of the reasons why we don't really see Mac players attack usually is because if they're not siege completely they lose if he actually did G G G G G I think and I guess this means get out or something or Gigi this is my game that's something that's what he said right this is actually great this is actually great but our man's slack you know he's he's he's a he's a rougher things you know he had a worse time in life before you know he's he knows the bottom of the pit and he knows this isn't even close to the bottom of the pit he sieges up and he continues he knows his opponent is investing in stargates and he's like okay let me just throw a couple more tors couple more tanks tico is attacking into this position from one direction without any real meat in front of his army he has 2,400 gas a quick calculation That's a great recall. You could have just walked back like, mate, the tanks aren't going to chase you. It's like calling in like a helicopter evacuation because a slot is chasing you. Like, mate, you can just walk away. There's no issue here. So with the 2400 gas, he could have built eight Archons, which he didn't do. He probably could have just destroyed this. with like eight Archons, ten extra zealads. What do we find? You should probably start thinking about a fifth base. He has pretty decent eco at this point, but he's going to start mining out these extra patches as well. And that's usually a bad thing. Ah, there's a lot of... Oh my god, he has 5K income. Holy crap! 5.4K, 5.7. Oh boy, that's a lot of money. Yeah, yeah, that's the mules right there. the mules right there coming at you units lost still in favor of tico and tico decides here to do something really cool he decides to go into into carriers why is he getting plus armor upgrades on carriers yeah whatever now the thing with carriers is is that they're really really good against mac but you need something to deal with the thor's now there is a unit that deals really well with thor's and also with mines if they go for mines against this which sometimes they play mine thor or And that's the disruptor. The disruptor is an absolutely brilliant unit against Thor's, because Thor's are very difficult to split. You can't really run away from the disruptor balls, and you can't really chase either. So what you can do is you just throw some disruptor balls at the Thor's, then you run away. And the Thor's are like trying to chase you, but they're obviously very slow. And then if they chase you far enough, you have your next disruptor balls again. And then eventually you hit like five or six, and boom, all the Thor's explode semi-simultaneously. because you can have like two, three tours per ball. And then you can say, well, what if he has a lot of tanks? Then I can't walk in with the disruptors. Well, if he has too many tanks, your carrier should just be able to win you the game. So carrier disruptor, Tempest is a really good composition against Terran Mac. People don't realize this, but that's such a sick composition in late game against Mac. And it's very tricky to lose with as a Protoss player. Like, it's not easy. Here comes the second push, though. It's getting Tempest? are good against air but they're not great against ground they don't actually do a lot of damage against ground carriers are just simply better he could have also gone for like carrier chariotrarchal of arkon immortal probably been fine these carriers are going to put in some work now yeah figure that yeah can even micro away a little bit it's beautiful using these immortals yeah would you look at that yeah carriers are good man what the heck So we could micro them back a bit, but this was a very, a very nice starter. Now, just five Archons would be so helpful because Arcon's tank so much. They're so useful. Oh! He's doing a beating Grandmaster with stupid stuff. Look at that. He only is allowed to use either the ground part of his army or the air part of his army, but never at the same time. Oh, that's really cool. I didn't know that also was a thing on the Chinese server. Huh, what do you know? The influence I have is... There's no boundary. Regular... regular boundaries of countries. Borders, they don't matter. This nasty engagement. Oh, that's well actually. Never mind. Completely fine engagement. Destroyes all the Thor's, and then yeah, there's only tanks left, so you can actually just kind of own them. Right now there's seven Thor's still. And like you said, disruptors, Archon Immortal, all of these things are really fine. Immortal in general is really good against Thor. But because you need some tanking, I always recommend getting a couple of zealots, a couple of Archons as well, in case there's tanks in the back. But Disruptors are... It's just built 11 DTs? Where did he build? Why can't I click on the DTs? Oh, they have blink as well. I kinda like this. This is just a good play overall against Aaron. It's blinking on top of planetaries. It's so powerful. If you have 9 DTs with plus 3, you can 3-shoulder planetary. If you have 11, you also can 3-shoulder planetary. It's kind of how it works. If you have 10, you can also 3-shoulder planetary. Some people say that if you have 12, you can do the same. Now I'm starting to do the math in my head, how many you need to 2-shot, but I can't quite get to it. So, I guess 14 would do the trick. 14 probably would do the trick. I think so, yeah. Maybe 13 already, I don't know. It is a possibility. She has a lot of DTs. He sniped the base. Kill the planetary. Now he loses a bunch of DTs. He keeps kind of blinking around. He built 11 Tempest to counter. I'm not sure what. he thinks he's countering with the tempest. I think the tempest is probably the worst unit that Prolost can build against the Thor. Let me pause and think about it. If we were to make a tier list here, what would be the best units? So we have Immortals, Disruptors. I guess it would be S tier. Is that the highest? Then you got like A tier that would be like Immortals, Celets and Archon, they already mentioned immortals? Okay, Immortals is S-tier with disruptor. A-tier would be Zellet and Arcon. B-tier would be the stalker. Maybe the Voidre is worse against Thor's. I think Voidreys might be better as well. I think the Tempest is about equal with observers and prisms. About as close. Yeah, I think about as useful as observers and prisms. A similar level. Maybe mothership is worse. I don't think mothership would even be able to do any damage. Just going in with these ds. They just lost 11 DTs for nothing. That's kind of big. He's not even maxed at this point. Sands in some zealots into the Helions. Loving the flanking here. Then moves forwards with the tempest. And gets his head completely kicked him. Holy crap this isn't closed. Holy crap he got owned. This wasn't close at all. Big surprise. That the slow unit, that's mainly an anti-air fighter because of the big range, usually good with static defense, doesn't fight well. Oh, slack! Slack with a question mark. I'm not sure if these are manner muse, but I hope they're manner muse. Oh man. I'm a big slack fan here. The slack flank club. It is, look this, four Thor's. I love that this guy never test anything out and he just thought that Tempus might be the answer. Rather than just thinking about things, like, ah, Tempus, good anti-airfighter, long range pretty slow. Thor, good anti-air fighter, especially single target. I wonder who wins. Gigi by Tico. He honestly props to him for still typing Gigi and leaving the game. I find that kind of admirable, honestly. In a way, I really do find that admirable. After getting so destroyed not only physically in the game, but also mentally by getting manner-mute after he did an offensive Gigi, I think we should just have a quick rundown of what happened here exactly. Tico, Tico, Tico. First of all, let me just grab your... your imbalance complaint for him again. You complained about Mactaran. You complained about... I don't actually you complained about anything. He complained about a hypothetical scenario. I transit into Airtles for the late game as I suspect he might go for liberators or battle cruisers. But he kept on Thor production. He's complaining that his opponent didn't do what Terrans usually do. That's his complaint. He isn't actually complaining about imbalance. He's complaining that this specific Terran didn't just play proper Starcraft. Well, Tico, I can tell you something. You definitely didn't play proper StarCraft. My man's slack over here. Not only does he have a beautiful name, we play pretty great StarCraft. He stayed calm, he waited with the mules until the perfect time, did solid Mac pushes. You, however, forgot the pro. almost the entire game. First build order, pretty good. You know, I'll give you that. Build order was tied, except for the part where you didn't build workers. You had negative micro on the adepts as is a very common theme in this series. Probably would have been better to not try to micro them at all. Just kind of aim of them and they would have been absolutely fine. Forgot to warp in stalkers there. Then you didn't scout for about 10 minutes. You blindly thought that he was going into Air Terran, which wasn't the case. You built Ayrthos, got absolutely blasted by Thor's. Thor's, all of your engagements, except for the first two were pretty god-awful. Even the second engagement was really bad. You used half of your army every single time, either just the immortals or just the air. Never at the same time. When you did use them at the same time, you actually completely blast that fight. You never build a single arc on. Do I need to go on? Like, I can't help it that your opponents didn't follow the script that you had in your head. Okay? That's going to happen in Stargraft. People make different choices sometimes. And that is completely okay. However, however, what isn't okay is offensive Gigiing, sending in an imbalance complaint form while you suck so much as you did. Because you, my friend, really do suck. Nice. All right, boys, let's wrap it up. Thanks for watching. Don't forget to hit the subscribe button, hit the like button, and hopefully I'll see you all next time for a new video. Bye-bye.