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Text: Project Manager: Yep. Soon as I get this. Okay. This is our last meeting. Um I'll go ahead and go through the minutes from the previous meeting. Uh and then we'll have a, the prototype presentation. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Um then we will um do an evaluation. Uh or we'll see what, what we need to have under the criteria for the evaluation. Then we'll go through the finance and see if we fall within the budget. Um then we'll do the evaluation, and then we can finish up after that with um any changes that we'll need to make, or hopefully everything will fall right in line. Um let's see, minutes from the last meeting. Um we looked at uh the the trends. We had uh the fashion trends that people want a fancy look-and-feel. It was twice as important as anything else. Um they liked fruit and vegetables in the new styles. Um and a spongy feel. So we were talking about trying to incorporate those into our prototype. Um they wanted limited buttons and simplicity. Um then we looked at the uh the method for coming up with our own remote. Um looking at other other devices. Um the iPod, we really liked the look of that. Um we also had uh the kid's remote for a simple idea. Um a two part remote, which was what were were originally looking at. Uh and then um there was talk of spee uh speech recognition um becoming more uh predominant and easier to use. But I think we've still decided not to go with that. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Then we looked at the components um the materials for the case, the different energy sources, the different types of chips, um and made a decision on what we were going to use to make our remote. Um and basically how, what were making for the prototype. So I'm going to leave it at that and let you guys take over. User Interface: The prototype discussion. Project Manager: The prototype yeah. Do you need a Question: How Did Project Manager and User Interface introduce the prototype of the remote control? Answer:
Project Manager introduced that the prototype incorporated fashion trends that people prefer fancy looking products like fruit and vegetable. After That, User Interface presented the product which looked like a banana and was bright yellow except for the blue button. The style was as simple as possible in order to fit the customers' need for simplicity. Also, the product could be curved and used both-handed with advanced chips hidden inside, which seemed quite creative and identical to iPod features. In the end, Industrial Designer commented that the remote control could be smaller in size.
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Text: Project Manager: Yep. Soon as I get this. Okay. This is our last meeting. Um I'll go ahead and go through the minutes from the previous meeting. Uh and then we'll have a, the prototype presentation. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Um then we will um do an evaluation. Uh or we'll see what, what we need to have under the criteria for the evaluation. Then we'll go through the finance and see if we fall within the budget. Um then we'll do the evaluation, and then we can finish up after that with um any changes that we'll need to make, or hopefully everything will fall right in line. Um let's see, minutes from the last meeting. Um we looked at uh the the trends. We had uh the fashion trends that people want a fancy look-and-feel. It was twice as important as anything else. Um they liked fruit and vegetables in the new styles. Um and a spongy feel. So we were talking about trying to incorporate those into our prototype. Um they wanted limited buttons and simplicity. Um then we looked at the uh the method for coming up with our own remote. Um looking at other other devices. Um the iPod, we really liked the look of that. Um we also had uh the kid's remote for a simple idea. Um a two part remote, which was what were were originally looking at. Uh and then um there was talk of spee uh speech recognition um becoming more uh predominant and easier to use. But I think we've still decided not to go with that. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Then we looked at the components um the materials for the case, the different energy sources, the different types of chips, um and made a decision on what we were going to use to make our remote. Um and basically how, what were making for the prototype. So I'm going to leave it at that and let you guys take over. User Interface: The prototype discussion. Project Manager: The prototype yeah. Do you need a <unk>disfmarker Question: How did Marketing design the product evaluation? Answer:
Marketing had some evaluation criteria in mind, based on previous marketing strategy, on the latest trends, and on user preferences. The team should figure out whether their product could solve the complaints of the ugly remote control. There was a seven-point scale rating for each criterion. The team would give comments to each feature listed and agree on the final rating.
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Text: Project Manager: Yep. Soon as I get this. Okay. This is our last meeting. Um I'll go ahead and go through the minutes from the previous meeting. Uh and then we'll have a, the prototype presentation. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Um then we will um do an evaluation. Uh or we'll see what, what we need to have under the criteria for the evaluation. Then we'll go through the finance and see if we fall within the budget. Um then we'll do the evaluation, and then we can finish up after that with um any changes that we'll need to make, or hopefully everything will fall right in line. Um let's see, minutes from the last meeting. Um we looked at uh the the trends. We had uh the fashion trends that people want a fancy look-and-feel. It was twice as important as anything else. Um they liked fruit and vegetables in the new styles. Um and a spongy feel. So we were talking about trying to incorporate those into our prototype. Um they wanted limited buttons and simplicity. Um then we looked at the uh the method for coming up with our own remote. Um looking at other other devices. Um the iPod, we really liked the look of that. Um we also had uh the kid's remote for a simple idea. Um a two part remote, which was what were were originally looking at. Uh and then um there was talk of spee uh speech recognition um becoming more uh predominant and easier to use. But I think we've still decided not to go with that. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Then we looked at the components um the materials for the case, the different energy sources, the different types of chips, um and made a decision on what we were going to use to make our remote. Um and basically how, what were making for the prototype. So I'm going to leave it at that and let you guys take over. User Interface: The prototype discussion. Project Manager: The prototype yeah. Do you Question: What did the team discuss during the product evaluation about its feature to solve customers' concerns? Answer:
Generally speaking, the team agreed that the product was intuitive and had successfully incorporated main aims that the team had. The team believed the customers were not likely to lose the remote control since it was big and bright yellow with speech recognition. Moreover, Industrial Designer suggested adding an extra feature for the product to raise volume like hell when it was removed so far from the TV. However, the team also noted that costs should be compared when deciding to use annoying alarms or others.
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Text: Project Manager: Yep. Soon as I get this. Okay. This is our last meeting. Um I'll go ahead and go through the minutes from the previous meeting. Uh and then we'll have a, the prototype presentation. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Um then we will um do an evaluation. Uh or we'll see what, what we need to have under the criteria for the evaluation. Then we'll go through the finance and see if we fall within the budget. Um then we'll do the evaluation, and then we can finish up after that with um any changes that we'll need to make, or hopefully everything will fall right in line. Um let's see, minutes from the last meeting. Um we looked at uh the the trends. We had uh the fashion trends that people want a fancy look-and-feel. It was twice as important as anything else. Um they liked fruit and vegetables in the new styles. Um and a spongy feel. So we were talking about trying to incorporate those into our prototype. Um they wanted limited buttons and simplicity. Um then we looked at the uh the method for coming up with our own remote. Um looking at other other devices. Um the iPod, we really liked the look of that. Um we also had uh the kid's remote for a simple idea. Um a two part remote, which was what were were originally looking at. Uh and then um there was talk of spee uh speech recognition um becoming more uh predominant and easier to use. But I think we've still decided not to go with that. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Then we looked at the components um the materials for the case, the different energy sources, the different types of chips, um and made a decision on what we were going to use to make our remote. Um and basically how, what were making for the prototype. So I'm going to leave it at that and let you guys take over. User Interface: The prototype discussion. Project Manager: The prototype yeah. Do you need a Question: How did the team evaluate the product about its technologically innovative features? Answer:
To start with, the team agreed that the remote control was indeed innovative with the LCD display incorporated and the way it could be used both-handed with an alarming feature. Also, it aimed at the recent fashion trend since it looked like a banana with a special yellow colour. Although some of its features were identical to an iPod, the team believed that it was a creative design for remote control.
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Text: Project Manager: Yep. Soon as I get this. Okay. This is our last meeting. Um I'll go ahead and go through the minutes from the previous meeting. Uh and then we'll have a, the prototype presentation. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Um then we will um do an evaluation. Uh or we'll see what, what we need to have under the criteria for the evaluation. Then we'll go through the finance and see if we fall within the budget. Um then we'll do the evaluation, and then we can finish up after that with um any changes that we'll need to make, or hopefully everything will fall right in line. Um let's see, minutes from the last meeting. Um we looked at uh the the trends. We had uh the fashion trends that people want a fancy look-and-feel. It was twice as important as anything else. Um they liked fruit and vegetables in the new styles. Um and a spongy feel. So we were talking about trying to incorporate those into our prototype. Um they wanted limited buttons and simplicity. Um then we looked at the uh the method for coming up with our own remote. Um looking at other other devices. Um the iPod, we really liked the look of that. Um we also had uh the kid's remote for a simple idea. Um a two part remote, which was what were were originally looking at. Uh and then um there was talk of spee uh speech recognition um becoming more uh predominant and easier to use. But I think we've still decided not to go with that. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Then we looked at the components um the materials for the case, the different energy sources, the different types of chips, um and made a decision on what we were going to use to make our remote. Um and basically how, what were making for the prototype. So I'm going to leave it at that and let you guys take over. User Interface: The prototype discussion. Project Manager: The prototype yeah. Do you need a <unk>disf Question: What did the team discuss about the product cost? Answer:
Project Manager first introduced the budget and broke it down to parts like batteries, electronics, case material supplements, interface type and then button supplements. The team agreed that the push button, integrated scroll-wheel and the LCD display cost a lot but case materials were all the same. In this case, the team decided to discard the LCD since the information it could transmit could also be simply displayed on the screen. As for the recognition feature, the team decided to make it a big deal to be alarming. And lastly, the product would be pure yellow instead of a blue button.
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Text: Project Manager: Yep. Soon as I get this. Okay. This is our last meeting. Um I'll go ahead and go through the minutes from the previous meeting. Uh and then we'll have a, the prototype presentation. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Um then we will um do an evaluation. Uh or we'll see what, what we need to have under the criteria for the evaluation. Then we'll go through the finance and see if we fall within the budget. Um then we'll do the evaluation, and then we can finish up after that with um any changes that we'll need to make, or hopefully everything will fall right in line. Um let's see, minutes from the last meeting. Um we looked at uh the the trends. We had uh the fashion trends that people want a fancy look-and-feel. It was twice as important as anything else. Um they liked fruit and vegetables in the new styles. Um and a spongy feel. So we were talking about trying to incorporate those into our prototype. Um they wanted limited buttons and simplicity. Um then we looked at the uh the method for coming up with our own remote. Um looking at other other devices. Um the iPod, we really liked the look of that. Um we also had uh the kid's remote for a simple idea. Um a two part remote, which was what were were originally looking at. Uh and then um there was talk of spee uh speech recognition um becoming more uh predominant and easier to use. But I think we've still decided not to go with that. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Then we looked at the components um the materials for the case, the different energy sources, the different types of chips, um and made a decision on what we were going to use to make our remote. Um and basically how, what were making for the prototype. So I'm going to leave it at that and let you guys take over. User Interface: The prototype discussion. Project Manager: The prototype yeah. Do you need a <unk>d Question: What did the team say about the project and overall process? Answer:
The team thought they had a really great team work experience. Everyone had put efforts into the process and gave opinions to design a good remote control. Also, the process incorporated different stages and new ideas could always be added based on the market finds.
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Text: Project Manager: Yep. Soon as I get this. Okay. This is our last meeting. Um I'll go ahead and go through the minutes from the previous meeting. Uh and then we'll have a, the prototype presentation. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Um then we will um do an evaluation. Uh or we'll see what, what we need to have under the criteria for the evaluation. Then we'll go through the finance and see if we fall within the budget. Um then we'll do the evaluation, and then we can finish up after that with um any changes that we'll need to make, or hopefully everything will fall right in line. Um let's see, minutes from the last meeting. Um we looked at uh the the trends. We had uh the fashion trends that people want a fancy look-and-feel. It was twice as important as anything else. Um they liked fruit and vegetables in the new styles. Um and a spongy feel. So we were talking about trying to incorporate those into our prototype. Um they wanted limited buttons and simplicity. Um then we looked at the uh the method for coming up with our own remote. Um looking at other other devices. Um the iPod, we really liked the look of that. Um we also had uh the kid's remote for a simple idea. Um a two part remote, which was what were were originally looking at. Uh and then um there was talk of spee uh speech recognition um becoming more uh predominant and easier to use. But I think we've still decided not to go with that. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Then we looked at the components um the materials for the case, the different energy sources, the different types of chips, um and made a decision on what we were going to use to make our remote. Um and basically how, what were making for the prototype. So I'm going to leave it at that and let you guys take over. User Interface: The prototype discussion. Project Manager: The prototype yeah. Do you need a <unk>disfmarker<unk> Question: Summarize the whole meeting. Answer:
Firstly, Project Manager reviewed the overall process that the team designed the remote control that they had viewed the fashion trends and incorporated the key features. After that, User Interface introduced the prototype of remote control based on the previous discussion of its function. The prototype was yellow like a banana with a simplest quick on-off button and could be used both-handed. Secondly, Marketing designed an evaluation test according to criteria found of the market trend as well as the customers' complaints and the team gave one to seven points to the shape, colour, material, controls and functions of the product. Thirdly, the team found that the current product exceeded the budget, so the team decided to completely discard the single button and LCD. Lastly, the team gave positive feedback on the project and the process.
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Text: Project Manager: That should hopefully do the trick, um. 'Kay. Sorry about the small delay. Falling a little bit behind schedule. And that's uh fifteen twenty five. Okay. So just to try and roughly go over what we agreed in the last one, um we're gonna go for something uh uh how was it? Uh The new black, I believe. Marketing: <unk>gap<unk>. Project Manager: Um something that looks good 'cause that seems to be in preference to actual functionality in the end, though we should never avoid functionality, of course. Uh many of our components are gonna be standard, off the shelf, but it seemed like we were gonna require at least an advanced chip and we were still very much for the idea of using an L_C_D_ display. Um other things were we were hoping to use rubber, most likely gonna be double curved, etcetera. Okay. So um due to your hard work, we might as well let the uh two designers go first, and uh show us the prototype. User Interface: Okay, it's a <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: Quite how the best way to do this is, I'm not sure, Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>gap<unk> I think if we both step up Project Manager: but <unk>disfmarker<unk> User Interface: and uh outline our ideas. Okay. Now do <unk>disfmarker<unk> uh doing the prototype gave us a bit more insight into the ergonomics of the design. Um for one thing, it turned out that the only point at which it needs to be articulated for handedness is um is h i is down here for the uh L_E_D_. As it turned out, the whole thing transfers from the right to left hand fairly well from the point of view of operating the uh function buttons and joystick, though it might be an idea to be able to a adjust the positions for the Question: What did the group discuss about budget balancing? Answer:
The use of the LCD screen and the advanced chip cost the team half of the expenditure. Due to the budget limit, the team had to abandon some other designs such as the rubber material and the double-curved structure. The USB connection was not feasible for now as well. For the location function, a transmitter, a receiver and speakers could be incorporated on a TV instead.
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Text: Project Manager: That should hopefully do the trick, um. 'Kay. Sorry about the small delay. Falling a little bit behind schedule. And that's uh fifteen twenty five. Okay. So just to try and roughly go over what we agreed in the last one, um we're gonna go for something uh uh how was it? Uh The new black, I believe. Marketing: <unk>gap<unk>. Project Manager: Um something that looks good 'cause that seems to be in preference to actual functionality in the end, though we should never avoid functionality, of course. Uh many of our components are gonna be standard, off the shelf, but it seemed like we were gonna require at least an advanced chip and we were still very much for the idea of using an L_C_D_ display. Um other things were we were hoping to use rubber, most likely gonna be double curved, etcetera. Okay. So um due to your hard work, we might as well let the uh two designers go first, and uh show us the prototype. User Interface: Okay, it's a <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: Quite how the best way to do this is, I'm not sure, Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>gap<unk> I think if we both step up Project Manager: but <unk>disfmarker<unk> User Interface: and uh outline our ideas. Okay. Now do <unk>disfmarker<unk> uh doing the prototype gave us a bit more insight into the ergonomics of the design. Um for one thing, it turned out that the only point at which it needs to be articulated for handedness is um is h i is down here for the uh L_E_D_. As it turned out, the whole thing transfers from the right to left hand fairly well from the point of view of operating the uh function buttons and joystick, though it might be an idea to be Question: Summarize the conclusion of the incorporation of articulation when discussing budget balancing. Answer:
In the budget balancing, User Interface desired an articulation, which would, however, lead the remote control to be double-curved. Initially, Project Manager was not sure about this, for the double-curved design would go over the budget. Industrial Designer pointed out that a single curve would still allow the articulation. The remote control could be made in two parts and joined together with the articulation. Project Manager accepted Industrial Designer's proposal.
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Text: Project Manager: That should hopefully do the trick, um. 'Kay. Sorry about the small delay. Falling a little bit behind schedule. And that's uh fifteen twenty five. Okay. So just to try and roughly go over what we agreed in the last one, um we're gonna go for something uh uh how was it? Uh The new black, I believe. Marketing: <unk>gap<unk>. Project Manager: Um something that looks good 'cause that seems to be in preference to actual functionality in the end, though we should never avoid functionality, of course. Uh many of our components are gonna be standard, off the shelf, but it seemed like we were gonna require at least an advanced chip and we were still very much for the idea of using an L_C_D_ display. Um other things were we were hoping to use rubber, most likely gonna be double curved, etcetera. Okay. So um due to your hard work, we might as well let the uh two designers go first, and uh show us the prototype. User Interface: Okay, it's a <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: Quite how the best way to do this is, I'm not sure, Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>gap<unk> I think if we both step up Project Manager: but <unk>disfmarker<unk> User Interface: and uh outline our ideas. Okay. Now do <unk>disfmarker<unk> uh doing the prototype gave us a bit more insight into the ergonomics of the design. Um for one thing, it turned out that the only point at which it needs to be articulated for handedness is um is h i is down here for the uh L_E_D_. As it turned out, the whole thing transfers from the right to left hand fairly well from the point of view of operating the uh function buttons and joystick, though it might be an idea to be able to a Question: Summarize the conclusion of the location function when discussing budget balancing. Answer:
User Interface told the team that the corporate had decided to incorporate a voice recognition chip into the remote control so that the team had to invent another method for users to locate the remote control once it got lost in a room. The team decided to make the remote control a special colour. Meanwhile, the remote control would be able to camouflage in the living room. Project Manager further proposed that the team could also make the remote control glow in the dark.
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Text: Project Manager: That should hopefully do the trick, um. 'Kay. Sorry about the small delay. Falling a little bit behind schedule. And that's uh fifteen twenty five. Okay. So just to try and roughly go over what we agreed in the last one, um we're gonna go for something uh uh how was it? Uh The new black, I believe. Marketing: <unk>gap<unk>. Project Manager: Um something that looks good 'cause that seems to be in preference to actual functionality in the end, though we should never avoid functionality, of course. Uh many of our components are gonna be standard, off the shelf, but it seemed like we were gonna require at least an advanced chip and we were still very much for the idea of using an L_C_D_ display. Um other things were we were hoping to use rubber, most likely gonna be double curved, etcetera. Okay. So um due to your hard work, we might as well let the uh two designers go first, and uh show us the prototype. User Interface: Okay, it's a <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: Quite how the best way to do this is, I'm not sure, Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>gap<unk> I think if we both step up Project Manager: but <unk>disfmarker<unk> User Interface: and uh outline our ideas. Okay. Now do <unk>disfmarker<unk> uh doing the prototype gave us a bit more insight into the ergonomics of the design. Um for one thing, it turned out that the only point at which it needs to be articulated for handedness is um is h i is down here for the uh L_E_D_. As it turned out, the whole thing transfers from the right to left hand fairly well from the point of view of operating the uh function buttons and joystick, though it might be an idea to be able to a adjust the positions for the base Question: What did the group discuss about the product evaluation? Answer:
In the product evaluation, the team was satisfied with its success in reducing the number of unused buttons. The user interface was considered to be user-friendly enough. However, the team also admitted that there was still room for improvement on the location function, technological innovation, the material, as well as the fashion style of the remote control.
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Text: Project Manager: That should hopefully do the trick, um. 'Kay. Sorry about the small delay. Falling a little bit behind schedule. And that's uh fifteen twenty five. Okay. So just to try and roughly go over what we agreed in the last one, um we're gonna go for something uh uh how was it? Uh The new black, I believe. Marketing: <unk>gap<unk>. Project Manager: Um something that looks good 'cause that seems to be in preference to actual functionality in the end, though we should never avoid functionality, of course. Uh many of our components are gonna be standard, off the shelf, but it seemed like we were gonna require at least an advanced chip and we were still very much for the idea of using an L_C_D_ display. Um other things were we were hoping to use rubber, most likely gonna be double curved, etcetera. Okay. So um due to your hard work, we might as well let the uh two designers go first, and uh show us the prototype. User Interface: Okay, it's a <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: Quite how the best way to do this is, I'm not sure, Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>gap<unk> I think if we both step up Project Manager: but <unk>disfmarker<unk> User Interface: and uh outline our ideas. Okay. Now do <unk>disfmarker<unk> uh doing the prototype gave us a bit more insight into the ergonomics of the design. Um for one thing, it turned out that the only point at which it needs to be articulated for handedness is um is h i is down here for the uh L_E_D_. As it turned out, the whole thing transfers from the right to left hand fairly well from the point of view of operating the uh function buttons and joystick, though it might be an idea to be able to a adjust Question: What did Project Manager think of the plastic material when discussing the product evaluation? Answer:
The team had decided to replace the rubber with plastic due to the budget limit. When evaluating the material of the remote control, Marketing admitted that sponginess was what most users desired, which was the feel given by rubber. Project Manager agreed. However, Project Manager pointed out that a plastic remote control was no worse than other remote controls in the market, so it would not be a step-back at least.
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Text: Project Manager: That should hopefully do the trick, um. 'Kay. Sorry about the small delay. Falling a little bit behind schedule. And that's uh fifteen twenty five. Okay. So just to try and roughly go over what we agreed in the last one, um we're gonna go for something uh uh how was it? Uh The new black, I believe. Marketing: <unk>gap<unk>. Project Manager: Um something that looks good 'cause that seems to be in preference to actual functionality in the end, though we should never avoid functionality, of course. Uh many of our components are gonna be standard, off the shelf, but it seemed like we were gonna require at least an advanced chip and we were still very much for the idea of using an L_C_D_ display. Um other things were we were hoping to use rubber, most likely gonna be double curved, etcetera. Okay. So um due to your hard work, we might as well let the uh two designers go first, and uh show us the prototype. User Interface: Okay, it's a <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: Quite how the best way to do this is, I'm not sure, Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>gap<unk> I think if we both step up Project Manager: but <unk>disfmarker<unk> User Interface: and uh outline our ideas. Okay. Now do <unk>disfmarker<unk> uh doing the prototype gave us a bit more insight into the ergonomics of the design. Um for one thing, it turned out that the only point at which it needs to be articulated for handedness is um is h i is down here for the uh L_E_D_. As it turned out, the whole thing transfers from the right to left hand fairly well from the point of view of operating the uh function buttons and joystick, though it might be an idea to be able Question: What did User Interface think of the fashion style of the remote control when discussing the product evaluation? Answer:
Marketing concluded from the market research that users expected the remote control to combine fruit and vegetable elements with its fashion design. User Interface disagreed with Marketing, for it was believed by User Interface that fruit and vegetable style was not the sole criterion for satisfactory fashion design of the remote control. Instead, User Interface implicated that all designs inspired by current fashions were likely to win the users over.
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Text: Project Manager: That should hopefully do the trick, um. 'Kay. Sorry about the small delay. Falling a little bit behind schedule. And that's uh fifteen twenty five. Okay. So just to try and roughly go over what we agreed in the last one, um we're gonna go for something uh uh how was it? Uh The new black, I believe. Marketing: <unk>gap<unk>. Project Manager: Um something that looks good 'cause that seems to be in preference to actual functionality in the end, though we should never avoid functionality, of course. Uh many of our components are gonna be standard, off the shelf, but it seemed like we were gonna require at least an advanced chip and we were still very much for the idea of using an L_C_D_ display. Um other things were we were hoping to use rubber, most likely gonna be double curved, etcetera. Okay. So um due to your hard work, we might as well let the uh two designers go first, and uh show us the prototype. User Interface: Okay, it's a <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: Quite how the best way to do this is, I'm not sure, Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>gap<unk> I think if we both step up Project Manager: but <unk>disfmarker<unk> User Interface: and uh outline our ideas. Okay. Now do <unk>disfmarker<unk> uh doing the prototype gave us a bit more insight into the ergonomics of the design. Um for one thing, it turned out that the only point at which it needs to be articulated for handedness is um is h i is down here for the uh L_E_D_. As it turned out, the whole thing transfers from the right to left hand fairly well from the point of view of operating the uh function buttons and joystick, though it might be an idea to be able to a adjust the positions for the base of the joy Question: Summarize the whole meeting. Answer:
Industrial Designer and User Interface presented a prototype of the new remote control according to the team's previous meetings. However, due to the budget limit, the team had to give up the spongy rubber material and the double-curved design. Instead, the remote control would be made of plastic and have only one curve. There would not be any location function, either. The team decided to make the remote control conspicuous by designing a bright yellow banana shape in case it got lost easily in a room. In the product evaluation, the team was satisfied with its success in reducing the number of unused buttons. The user interface was considered to be user-friendly enough. However, the team also admitted that there was still room for improvement on the location function, technological innovation, the material, as well as the fashion style of the remote control. At the end of the meeting, all team members expressed themselves about the teamwork sincerely.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received apologies for absence from Suzy Davies and there is no substitute. Janet Finch-Saunders is joining us from the Assembly offices in Colwyn Bay via video conference. Can I ask Members if there are any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. Item 2, then, this morning is a post-legislative scrutiny session on the Higher Education (Wales) Act 2015. I'm very pleased to welcome Kirsty Williams AM, Minister for Education, and Huw Morris, who is director of the skills, higher education and lifelong learning group in Welsh Government. Thank you, both, for attending, and thank you for the paper that you provided in advance. I will just start the questioning by asking whether you are planning to repeal the 2015 higher education Act, or will it be amended by the post-compulsory education and training Bill? Kirsty Williams AM: Thank you very much, Chair. I'm very pleased to be with the committee again this morning, although it's in slightly unusual circumstances. As a piece of post-legislative scrutiny, this was a Bill that was taken forward by a different Minister in a different administration, but I think it is really valuable work in the context of the question you just set out: what can we learn from the implementation of this piece of legislation as we move forward with our reform journey and with this Government and my proposals to introduce a new commission for tertiary education? There is much, at the moment, that lies within the 2015 Act that we will look to bring forward into the new legislation, but there are certainly experiences—and I'm sure we'll come on to some of the evidence that has been received about what's worked, what perhaps hasn't worked—that we all want to reflect on and be mindful of as we take forward the new Bill, including the report of this committee as part of it. So, it is our intention that this Bill will be superceded by the new PCETR Bill. Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you. We've got a series of questions now from Siân Gwen Question: What did the meeting discuss about the advantage of the Act? Answer:
Although highly challenged by the participants, Kirsty Williams AM argued that the Act had fulfilled the Government's objectives in regulating institutions, safeguarding contribution, managing fair access and protecting the principle of institutional autonomy. These strategic aims were still really important but in the new situation, it was required to recognise the higher education and research Bill across the border in England. In this case, to continue fulfilling its national outcomes, the Act should evolve by implementing new student support measures.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received apologies for absence from Suzy Davies and there is no substitute. Janet Finch-Saunders is joining us from the Assembly offices in Colwyn Bay via video conference. Can I ask Members if there are any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. Item 2, then, this morning is a post-legislative scrutiny session on the Higher Education (Wales) Act 2015. I'm very pleased to welcome Kirsty Williams AM, Minister for Education, and Huw Morris, who is director of the skills, higher education and lifelong learning group in Welsh Government. Thank you, both, for attending, and thank you for the paper that you provided in advance. I will just start the questioning by asking whether you are planning to repeal the 2015 higher education Act, or will it be amended by the post-compulsory education and training Bill? Kirsty Williams AM: Thank you very much, Chair. I'm very pleased to be with the committee again this morning, although it's in slightly unusual circumstances. As a piece of post-legislative scrutiny, this was a Bill that was taken forward by a different Minister in a different administration, but I think it is really valuable work in the context of the question you just set out: what can we learn from the implementation of this piece of legislation as we move forward with our reform journey and with this Government and my proposals to introduce a new commission for tertiary education? There is much, at the moment, that lies within the 2015 Act that we will look to bring forward into the new legislation, but there are certainly experiences—and I'm sure we'll come on to some of the evidence that has been received about what's worked, what perhaps hasn't worked—that we all want to reflect on and be mindful of as we take forward the new Bill, including the report of this committee as part of it. So, it is our intention that this Bill will be superceded by the new PCETR Bill. Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you. We've got a series of questions now from Siân Gwen Question: What did the meeting discuss about the weakness of the Act? Answer:
The Act was considered that the legislation itself was not strong enough by Sian Gwenllian AM and Kirsty Williams AM agreed that remit letters were a really important way in which national priorities could be preserved. Moreover, it was stressed that it was important to make the distinction between the scale of private providers, and what could be termed as 'unregulated providers' in the Welsh system. In this case, they should be designated on a case-by-case basis and always be able to protect the interests of the students. Besides, Kirsty Williams AM pointed out that the government had not identified an urgent reason to designate different types of courses as qualifying courses for the purposes of a fee limit, but in fact, the regulation for each type of them did differ from each other.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received apologies for absence from Suzy Davies and there is no substitute. Janet Finch-Saunders is joining us from the Assembly offices in Colwyn Bay via video conference. Can I ask Members if there are any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. Item 2, then, this morning is a post-legislative scrutiny session on the Higher Education (Wales) Act 2015. I'm very pleased to welcome Kirsty Williams AM, Minister for Education, and Huw Morris, who is director of the skills, higher education and lifelong learning group in Welsh Government. Thank you, both, for attending, and thank you for the paper that you provided in advance. I will just start the questioning by asking whether you are planning to repeal the 2015 higher education Act, or will it be amended by the post-compulsory education and training Bill? Kirsty Williams AM: Thank you very much, Chair. I'm very pleased to be with the committee again this morning, although it's in slightly unusual circumstances. As a piece of post-legislative scrutiny, this was a Bill that was taken forward by a different Minister in a different administration, but I think it is really valuable work in the context of the question you just set out: what can we learn from the implementation of this piece of legislation as we move forward with our reform journey and with this Government and my proposals to introduce a new commission for tertiary education? There is much, at the moment, that lies within the 2015 Act that we will look to bring forward into the new legislation, but there are certainly experiences—and I'm sure we'll come on to some of the evidence that has been received about what's worked, what perhaps hasn't worked—that we all want to reflect on and be mindful of as we take forward the new Bill, including the report of this committee as part of it. So, it is our intention that this Bill will be superceded by the new PCETR Bill. Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you. We've got a series of questions now from Siân Gwenllian Question: What had the Act and the Bill already achieved? Answer:
To answer this question, Kirsty Williams AM first introduced the achievements that the new system of student finance did again shift the parameters of influence that HEFCW or any new tertiary commission could have in the different situations, as a direct result of the changing scenario. Moreover, it was a great success to see all institutions sign up to becoming living wage employers, all institutions sign up to the Welsh Government's code of ethical procurement.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received apologies for absence from Suzy Davies and there is no substitute. Janet Finch-Saunders is joining us from the Assembly offices in Colwyn Bay via video conference. Can I ask Members if there are any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. Item 2, then, this morning is a post-legislative scrutiny session on the Higher Education (Wales) Act 2015. I'm very pleased to welcome Kirsty Williams AM, Minister for Education, and Huw Morris, who is director of the skills, higher education and lifelong learning group in Welsh Government. Thank you, both, for attending, and thank you for the paper that you provided in advance. I will just start the questioning by asking whether you are planning to repeal the 2015 higher education Act, or will it be amended by the post-compulsory education and training Bill? Kirsty Williams AM: Thank you very much, Chair. I'm very pleased to be with the committee again this morning, although it's in slightly unusual circumstances. As a piece of post-legislative scrutiny, this was a Bill that was taken forward by a different Minister in a different administration, but I think it is really valuable work in the context of the question you just set out: what can we learn from the implementation of this piece of legislation as we move forward with our reform journey and with this Government and my proposals to introduce a new commission for tertiary education? There is much, at the moment, that lies within the 2015 Act that we will look to bring forward into the new legislation, but there are certainly experiences—and I'm sure we'll come on to some of the evidence that has been received about what's worked, what perhaps hasn't worked—that we all want to reflect on and be mindful of as we take forward the new Bill, including the report of this committee as part of it. So, it is our intention that this Bill will be superceded by the new PCETR Bill. Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you. We've got a series of questions now from Siân Gwenllian Question: How could the Act and the Bill be improved? Answer:
Currently, the government planned to use the remit letter to drive transparency over senior leaders' pay, the gender pay gap within institutions. For instance, it had been a success to use the remit letter and some funding to drive change and some improvements in mental health in the higher education sector. To conclude, Kirsty Williams AM suggested that the new PCET reforms were aimed to create a legislative regime and a regulation regime that encouraged collaboration and co-operation across the sector.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received apologies for absence from Suzy Davies and there is no substitute. Janet Finch-Saunders is joining us from the Assembly offices in Colwyn Bay via video conference. Can I ask Members if there are any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. Item 2, then, this morning is a post-legislative scrutiny session on the Higher Education (Wales) Act 2015. I'm very pleased to welcome Kirsty Williams AM, Minister for Education, and Huw Morris, who is director of the skills, higher education and lifelong learning group in Welsh Government. Thank you, both, for attending, and thank you for the paper that you provided in advance. I will just start the questioning by asking whether you are planning to repeal the 2015 higher education Act, or will it be amended by the post-compulsory education and training Bill? Kirsty Williams AM: Thank you very much, Chair. I'm very pleased to be with the committee again this morning, although it's in slightly unusual circumstances. As a piece of post-legislative scrutiny, this was a Bill that was taken forward by a different Minister in a different administration, but I think it is really valuable work in the context of the question you just set out: what can we learn from the implementation of this piece of legislation as we move forward with our reform journey and with this Government and my proposals to introduce a new commission for tertiary education? There is much, at the moment, that lies within the 2015 Act that we will look to bring forward into the new legislation, but there are certainly experiences—and I'm sure we'll come on to some of the evidence that has been received about what's worked, what perhaps hasn't worked—that we all want to reflect on and be mindful of as we take forward the new Bill, including the report of this committee as part of it. So, it is our intention that this Bill will be superceded by the new PCETR Bill. Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you. We've got a series of questions now from Siân Question: What was the current situation about HEFCW's powers of intervention? Answer:
Dawn Bowden AM challenged that informal measures or actions had been taken in their role as regulator, and Kirsty Williams AM explained that the commission was expected to be able to have a series of abilities to intervene, from the soft, flexible type, which was non-punitive but actually allowed people to participate in it. Meanwhile, Huw Morris suggested that specific mechanisms and informal interactions with FE college principals, with the work-based learning provider network, etc had been used to hopefully achieve some alignment in the tertiary sector. Also, as a loan-based system of student finance, a system of block grant allocations and conditions could be attached to those grant allocations by HEFCW when things went wrong.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received apologies for absence from Suzy Davies and there is no substitute. Janet Finch-Saunders is joining us from the Assembly offices in Colwyn Bay via video conference. Can I ask Members if there are any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. Item 2, then, this morning is a post-legislative scrutiny session on the Higher Education (Wales) Act 2015. I'm very pleased to welcome Kirsty Williams AM, Minister for Education, and Huw Morris, who is director of the skills, higher education and lifelong learning group in Welsh Government. Thank you, both, for attending, and thank you for the paper that you provided in advance. I will just start the questioning by asking whether you are planning to repeal the 2015 higher education Act, or will it be amended by the post-compulsory education and training Bill? Kirsty Williams AM: Thank you very much, Chair. I'm very pleased to be with the committee again this morning, although it's in slightly unusual circumstances. As a piece of post-legislative scrutiny, this was a Bill that was taken forward by a different Minister in a different administration, but I think it is really valuable work in the context of the question you just set out: what can we learn from the implementation of this piece of legislation as we move forward with our reform journey and with this Government and my proposals to introduce a new commission for tertiary education? There is much, at the moment, that lies within the 2015 Act that we will look to bring forward into the new legislation, but there are certainly experiences—and I'm sure we'll come on to some of the evidence that has been received about what's worked, what perhaps hasn't worked—that we all want to reflect on and be mindful of as we take forward the new Bill, including the report of this committee as part of it. So, it is our intention that this Bill will be superceded by the new PCETR Bill. Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you. We've got a series of questions now from Question: What did the meeting talk about to control HEFCW's powers of intervention? Answer:
Huw Morris started by introducing the focus on learning from other nations to track the information flows and help the universities in return. Meanwhile, Kirsty Williams AM suggested a balance to be achieved by each part of the participants. However, Dawn Bowden AM questioned about HEFCW's use of informal measures which might not be as prevalent as they currently are. Kirsty Williams AM answered that it should be remembered that HEFCW would surely be replaced, and a more flexible way would be adopted to control the financial codes of universities to assure the quality of the provision.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received apologies for absence from Suzy Davies and there is no substitute. Janet Finch-Saunders is joining us from the Assembly offices in Colwyn Bay via video conference. Can I ask Members if there are any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. Item 2, then, this morning is a post-legislative scrutiny session on the Higher Education (Wales) Act 2015. I'm very pleased to welcome Kirsty Williams AM, Minister for Education, and Huw Morris, who is director of the skills, higher education and lifelong learning group in Welsh Government. Thank you, both, for attending, and thank you for the paper that you provided in advance. I will just start the questioning by asking whether you are planning to repeal the 2015 higher education Act, or will it be amended by the post-compulsory education and training Bill? Kirsty Williams AM: Thank you very much, Chair. I'm very pleased to be with the committee again this morning, although it's in slightly unusual circumstances. As a piece of post-legislative scrutiny, this was a Bill that was taken forward by a different Minister in a different administration, but I think it is really valuable work in the context of the question you just set out: what can we learn from the implementation of this piece of legislation as we move forward with our reform journey and with this Government and my proposals to introduce a new commission for tertiary education? There is much, at the moment, that lies within the 2015 Act that we will look to bring forward into the new legislation, but there are certainly experiences—and I'm sure we'll come on to some of the evidence that has been received about what's worked, what perhaps hasn't worked—that we all want to reflect on and be mindful of as we take forward the new Bill, including the report of this committee as part of it. So, it is our intention that this Bill will be superceded by the new PCETR Bill. Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you. We've got a series of questions now from Siân Question: What did Hefin David AM concern about the fee and access plans? Answer:
To answer Hefin David AM's question, Kirsty Williams AM first stressed that the success of the fee and access plan relied on the understanding of whether an annual basis was an appropriate timescale for a university to be working to, and whether a long period was suitable for the Act. Sometimes it was hard to make a final judgment since the futures of the students were unpredictable but the fee and access plans could always be one of the drivers for some of the improvements. In the meantime, constant efforts had been put into communications with a range of stakeholders to continue developing legislative proposals to assure the fee.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received apologies for absence from Suzy Davies and there is no substitute. Janet Finch-Saunders is joining us from the Assembly offices in Colwyn Bay via video conference. Can I ask Members if there are any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. Item 2, then, this morning is a post-legislative scrutiny session on the Higher Education (Wales) Act 2015. I'm very pleased to welcome Kirsty Williams AM, Minister for Education, and Huw Morris, who is director of the skills, higher education and lifelong learning group in Welsh Government. Thank you, both, for attending, and thank you for the paper that you provided in advance. I will just start the questioning by asking whether you are planning to repeal the 2015 higher education Act, or will it be amended by the post-compulsory education and training Bill? Kirsty Williams AM: Thank you very much, Chair. I'm very pleased to be with the committee again this morning, although it's in slightly unusual circumstances. As a piece of post-legislative scrutiny, this was a Bill that was taken forward by a different Minister in a different administration, but I think it is really valuable work in the context of the question you just set out: what can we learn from the implementation of this piece of legislation as we move forward with our reform journey and with this Government and my proposals to introduce a new commission for tertiary education? There is much, at the moment, that lies within the 2015 Act that we will look to bring forward into the new legislation, but there are certainly experiences—and I'm sure we'll come on to some of the evidence that has been received about what's worked, what perhaps hasn't worked—that we all want to reflect on and be mindful of as we take forward the new Bill, including the report of this committee as part of it. So, it is our intention that this Bill will be superceded by the new PCETR Bill. Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you. We've got a series of questions now from Siân Gw Question: How did Kirsty Williams AM plan to manage risks? Answer:
Hefin David AM questioned about the right balance between institutions with the strongest track records that were more highly regulated and those riskier private alternative providers. Kirsty Williams AM argued that more attention should be paid to focus on the inherent quality of those charitable status which was regarded as a key reference point in the operation. Although there were some concerns of some private providers, particularly in England, they should not be treated the same. In this case, the government would regulate them on a course-by-course basis. Moreover, quality provision should be included and alternative providers would be given more attention.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received apologies for absence from Suzy Davies and there is no substitute. Janet Finch-Saunders is joining us from the Assembly offices in Colwyn Bay via video conference. Can I ask Members if there are any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. Item 2, then, this morning is a post-legislative scrutiny session on the Higher Education (Wales) Act 2015. I'm very pleased to welcome Kirsty Williams AM, Minister for Education, and Huw Morris, who is director of the skills, higher education and lifelong learning group in Welsh Government. Thank you, both, for attending, and thank you for the paper that you provided in advance. I will just start the questioning by asking whether you are planning to repeal the 2015 higher education Act, or will it be amended by the post-compulsory education and training Bill? Kirsty Williams AM: Thank you very much, Chair. I'm very pleased to be with the committee again this morning, although it's in slightly unusual circumstances. As a piece of post-legislative scrutiny, this was a Bill that was taken forward by a different Minister in a different administration, but I think it is really valuable work in the context of the question you just set out: what can we learn from the implementation of this piece of legislation as we move forward with our reform journey and with this Government and my proposals to introduce a new commission for tertiary education? There is much, at the moment, that lies within the 2015 Act that we will look to bring forward into the new legislation, but there are certainly experiences—and I'm sure we'll come on to some of the evidence that has been received about what's worked, what perhaps hasn't worked—that we all want to reflect on and be mindful of as we take forward the new Bill, including the report of this committee as part of it. So, it is our intention that this Bill will be superceded by the new PCETR Bill. Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you. We've got a series of questions Question: What did Kirsty Williams AM react in response to concerns of the governance of universities? Answer:
Kirsty Williams AM first admitted that it was true that the Bill did not directly address issues around governance in the sector. However, establishing a more direct relationship with chairs of universities, especially one-to-one relationships with them, had been attached much importance and it was crucial to help the government understand each aspect of issues in universities. Moreover, ways to make sure that the governing bodies were diverse and it was able to include both student voice as well as the staff voice in governance going forward would be discussed in the future. Kirsty Williams AM stressed that there were plans to engage with each of the governing bodies since the situation was getting far more complex.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received apologies for absence from Suzy Davies and there is no substitute. Janet Finch-Saunders is joining us from the Assembly offices in Colwyn Bay via video conference. Can I ask Members if there are any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. Item 2, then, this morning is a post-legislative scrutiny session on the Higher Education (Wales) Act 2015. I'm very pleased to welcome Kirsty Williams AM, Minister for Education, and Huw Morris, who is director of the skills, higher education and lifelong learning group in Welsh Government. Thank you, both, for attending, and thank you for the paper that you provided in advance. I will just start the questioning by asking whether you are planning to repeal the 2015 higher education Act, or will it be amended by the post-compulsory education and training Bill? Kirsty Williams AM: Thank you very much, Chair. I'm very pleased to be with the committee again this morning, although it's in slightly unusual circumstances. As a piece of post-legislative scrutiny, this was a Bill that was taken forward by a different Minister in a different administration, but I think it is really valuable work in the context of the question you just set out: what can we learn from the implementation of this piece of legislation as we move forward with our reform journey and with this Government and my proposals to introduce a new commission for tertiary education? There is much, at the moment, that lies within the 2015 Act that we will look to bring forward into the new legislation, but there are certainly experiences—and I'm sure we'll come on to some of the evidence that has been received about what's worked, what perhaps hasn't worked—that we all want to reflect on and be mindful of as we take forward the new Bill, including the report of this committee as part of it. So, it is our intention that this Bill will be superceded by the new PCETR Bill. Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you. We've got a series of questions now from Si Question: How did Sian Gwenllian AM ask about the quality assurance? Answer:
Sian Gwenllian AM argued that there was evidence regarding the difficulties caused by HEFCW having a legal duty to quality-assure all the provisions in two further education colleges. This process was regarded as an anomaly or an unintended consequence of the Act. Sian Gwenllian AM wanted Kirsty Williams AM to explain the situation in that instance and further methods to assure governing qualities.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received apologies for absence from Suzy Davies and there is no substitute. Janet Finch-Saunders is joining us from the Assembly offices in Colwyn Bay via video conference. Can I ask Members if there are any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. Item 2, then, this morning is a post-legislative scrutiny session on the Higher Education (Wales) Act 2015. I'm very pleased to welcome Kirsty Williams AM, Minister for Education, and Huw Morris, who is director of the skills, higher education and lifelong learning group in Welsh Government. Thank you, both, for attending, and thank you for the paper that you provided in advance. I will just start the questioning by asking whether you are planning to repeal the 2015 higher education Act, or will it be amended by the post-compulsory education and training Bill? Kirsty Williams AM: Thank you very much, Chair. I'm very pleased to be with the committee again this morning, although it's in slightly unusual circumstances. As a piece of post-legislative scrutiny, this was a Bill that was taken forward by a different Minister in a different administration, but I think it is really valuable work in the context of the question you just set out: what can we learn from the implementation of this piece of legislation as we move forward with our reform journey and with this Government and my proposals to introduce a new commission for tertiary education? There is much, at the moment, that lies within the 2015 Act that we will look to bring forward into the new legislation, but there are certainly experiences—and I'm sure we'll come on to some of the evidence that has been received about what's worked, what perhaps hasn't worked—that we all want to reflect on and be mindful of as we take forward the new Bill, including the report of this committee as part of it. So, it is our intention that this Bill will be superceded by the new PCETR Bill. Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you. We've got Question: How did Kirsty Williams AM answer Sian Gwenllian AM's question about quality assurance? Answer:
Kirsty Williams AM first explained that it was a bit difficult to put herself in the position of the former Minister but it was clear that it should not be intended. However, she explained that the Act was built on what were the quality assessment arrangements in the 1992 Act, which required HEFCW to secure arrangements for the assessment of the quality of education provided by funding institutions. So, as a consequence of that approach, HEFCW's quality assessment duty currently encompassesed all the education provided by or on behalf of a regulated institution. Huw Morris also helped to explain that a lot of joint operation was required during the process and the new Bill would try to make that clearer.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received apologies for absence from Suzy Davies and there is no substitute. Janet Finch-Saunders is joining us from the Assembly offices in Colwyn Bay via video conference. Can I ask Members if there are any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. Item 2, then, this morning is a post-legislative scrutiny session on the Higher Education (Wales) Act 2015. I'm very pleased to welcome Kirsty Williams AM, Minister for Education, and Huw Morris, who is director of the skills, higher education and lifelong learning group in Welsh Government. Thank you, both, for attending, and thank you for the paper that you provided in advance. I will just start the questioning by asking whether you are planning to repeal the 2015 higher education Act, or will it be amended by the post-compulsory education and training Bill? Kirsty Williams AM: Thank you very much, Chair. I'm very pleased to be with the committee again this morning, although it's in slightly unusual circumstances. As a piece of post-legislative scrutiny, this was a Bill that was taken forward by a different Minister in a different administration, but I think it is really valuable work in the context of the question you just set out: what can we learn from the implementation of this piece of legislation as we move forward with our reform journey and with this Government and my proposals to introduce a new commission for tertiary education? There is much, at the moment, that lies within the 2015 Act that we will look to bring forward into the new legislation, but there are certainly experiences—and I'm sure we'll come on to some of the evidence that has been received about what's worked, what perhaps hasn't worked—that we all want to reflect on and be mindful of as we take forward the new Bill, including the report of this committee as part of it. So, it is our intention that this Bill will be superceded by the new PCETR Bill. Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you. We've got a series of questions now from Si Question: What did Kirsty Williams AM say about her plan for quality assurance? Answer:
Kirsty Williams AM shared that the government had listened to stakeholders' concerns regarding proposals to introduce a single quality assessment body. And she stressed that the principles underlying any assurance regime would need to be coherent, effective and comprehensive. Besides, the quality framework should cover higher education to make it compatible with ENQA, which was considered as highly important going forward, since it would be compatible with current UK-wide baseline standards to avoid specific problems for the HE sector in Wales. Although it might cause a stir, a change must be made in the new situation. Huw Morris also suggested that greater synergy would be encouraged in the ways in which quality assurance and enhancement was undertaken in different areas of activity.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received apologies for absence from Suzy Davies and there is no substitute. Janet Finch-Saunders is joining us from the Assembly offices in Colwyn Bay via video conference. Can I ask Members if there are any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. Item 2, then, this morning is a post-legislative scrutiny session on the Higher Education (Wales) Act 2015. I'm very pleased to welcome Kirsty Williams AM, Minister for Education, and Huw Morris, who is director of the skills, higher education and lifelong learning group in Welsh Government. Thank you, both, for attending, and thank you for the paper that you provided in advance. I will just start the questioning by asking whether you are planning to repeal the 2015 higher education Act, or will it be amended by the post-compulsory education and training Bill? Kirsty Williams AM: Thank you very much, Chair. I'm very pleased to be with the committee again this morning, although it's in slightly unusual circumstances. As a piece of post-legislative scrutiny, this was a Bill that was taken forward by a different Minister in a different administration, but I think it is really valuable work in the context of the question you just set out: what can we learn from the implementation of this piece of legislation as we move forward with our reform journey and with this Government and my proposals to introduce a new commission for tertiary education? There is much, at the moment, that lies within the 2015 Act that we will look to bring forward into the new legislation, but there are certainly experiences—and I'm sure we'll come on to some of the evidence that has been received about what's worked, what perhaps hasn't worked—that we all want to reflect on and be mindful of as we take forward the new Bill, including the report of this committee as part of it. So, it is our intention that this Bill will be superceded by the new PCETR Bill. Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you. We've got a series of questions now from Siân Gwenllian. Sian Question: Summarize the whole meeting. Answer:
The meeting between the Children, Young People and Education Committee and the Welsh Government was considered as a post-legislative scrutiny session on the Higher Education (Wales) Act 2015. To start with, Kirsty Williams AM suggested although the Bill was taken forward by a different Minister in a different administration, it was still valuable to discuss in the current context. The Act had partly fulfilled the Government's objectives in regulating institutions, safeguarding contribution, managing fair access and protecting the principle of institutional autonomy. Kirsty Williams AM also pointed out that new methods should be included to further regulate, co-ordinating and fund the sector. When it comes to the future of the Act, the meeting agreed that tertiary education providers should contribute to national goals and outcomes as part of the civic mission, and students' interests must be fully preserved. Meanwhile, some participants argued that HEFCW's powers were inflexible and fee plans from private providers were hard to regulate. Kirsty Williams AM agreed that a more flexible connection between the regulating sectors and the others should be attained. Besides, the meeting also talked about managing risk and agreed that the Act, in the future should include more alternative providers for students who were receiving long-term support. In the end, Kirsty Williams AM praised the contribution from overseas providers in supporting transnational education in Wales and agreed that rights of students in Wales should always be put in the first place.
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Text: Grad F: OK. PhD C: Adam, what is the mike that, uh, Jeremy's wearing? Grad F: It's the ear - plug mike. Postdoc A: Ear - plug. PhD E: That's good. PhD C: Is that a wireless, or <unk>disfmarker<unk>? Oh. Grad F: No. Grad G: It's wired. Professor B: Oh! Postdoc A: Is that <unk>disfmarker<unk> Does that mean you can't hear anything during the meeting? Grad D: It's old - school. Grad F: Huh? What? Huh? Professor B: Should we, uh, close the door, maybe? Grad F: It <unk>disfmarker<unk> it's a fairly good mike, actually. Professor B: So it's <unk>disfmarker<unk> Yeah. Huh. Grad F: Well, I shouldn't say it's a good mike. All I really know is that the signal level is OK. I don't know if it's a <unk>disfmarker<unk> the quality. Professor B: Well, that's a Grad F: Ugh! So I didn't send out agenda items because until five minutes ago we only had one agenda item and now we have two. So. <unk>vocalsound<unk> And, uh. Professor B: OK. So, just to repeat the thing bef that we said last week, it was there's this suggestion of alternating weeks on <unk>vocalsound<unk> more, uh, automatic speech recognition related or not? Was that sort of <unk>pause<unk> the division? Grad F: Right. Professor B: So which week are we in? Grad F: Well <unk>disfmarker<unk> We haven't really started, but I thought we more Question: Summarize the discussion about releasing meeting data and allowing people to cut things out Answer:
The team decided to release their data on July 15th, but they still wanted to give people time to bleep things from the transcripts. There was skepticism that they could actually reach out to people and get everyone's consent that they were okay with whatever was being released.
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Text: Grad F: OK. PhD C: Adam, what is the mike that, uh, Jeremy's wearing? Grad F: It's the ear - plug mike. Postdoc A: Ear - plug. PhD E: That's good. PhD C: Is that a wireless, or <unk>disfmarker<unk>? Oh. Grad F: No. Grad G: It's wired. Professor B: Oh! Postdoc A: Is that <unk>disfmarker<unk> Does that mean you can't hear anything during the meeting? Grad D: It's old - school. Grad F: Huh? What? Huh? Professor B: Should we, uh, close the door, maybe? Grad F: It <unk>disfmarker<unk> it's a fairly good mike, actually. Professor B: So it's <unk>disfmarker<unk> Yeah. Huh. Grad F: Well, I shouldn't say it's a good mike. All I really know is that the signal level is OK. I don't know if it's a <unk>disfmarker<unk> the quality. Professor B: Well, that's a Grad F: Ugh! So I didn't send out agenda items because until five minutes ago we only had one agenda item and now we have two. So. <unk>vocalsound<unk> And, uh. Professor B: OK. So, just to repeat the thing bef that we said last week, it was there's this suggestion of alternating weeks on <unk>vocalsound<unk> more, uh, automatic speech recognition related or not? Was that sort of <unk>pause<unk> the division? Grad F: Right. Professor B: So which week are we in? Grad F: Well <unk>disfmarker<unk> We haven't really started, but I thought we more <unk>disf Question: What did the team think about sending an email to ask for changes? Answer:
The team thought that people would not respond to their emails, which would be compounded by them being out of town over the summer. Based on knowledge about similar data collection, they thought that emails should be enough, but skepticism about getting consent with emails prevailed.
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Text: Grad F: OK. PhD C: Adam, what is the mike that, uh, Jeremy's wearing? Grad F: It's the ear - plug mike. Postdoc A: Ear - plug. PhD E: That's good. PhD C: Is that a wireless, or <unk>disfmarker<unk>? Oh. Grad F: No. Grad G: It's wired. Professor B: Oh! Postdoc A: Is that <unk>disfmarker<unk> Does that mean you can't hear anything during the meeting? Grad D: It's old - school. Grad F: Huh? What? Huh? Professor B: Should we, uh, close the door, maybe? Grad F: It <unk>disfmarker<unk> it's a fairly good mike, actually. Professor B: So it's <unk>disfmarker<unk> Yeah. Huh. Grad F: Well, I shouldn't say it's a good mike. All I really know is that the signal level is OK. I don't know if it's a <unk>disfmarker<unk> the quality. Professor B: Well, that's a Grad F: Ugh! So I didn't send out agenda items because until five minutes ago we only had one agenda item and now we have two. So. <unk>vocalsound<unk> And, uh. Professor B: OK. So, just to repeat the thing bef that we said last week, it was there's this suggestion of alternating weeks on <unk>vocalsound<unk> more, uh, automatic speech recognition related or not? Was that sort of <unk>pause<unk> the division? Grad F: Right. Professor B: So which week are we in? Grad F: Well <unk>disfmarker<unk> We haven't really started, but I thought we more <unk>disfmarker<unk> we more Question: What did Grad F think about getting consent? Answer:
Grad F was responsible for bringing up the topic. Apparently, no one had replied to the emails allowing people to bleep things out so far. According to Grad F, as long as the email was sent out, the team was covered. Grad F thought this had been settled when the project started and did not need to be revisited.
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Text: Grad F: OK. PhD C: Adam, what is the mike that, uh, Jeremy's wearing? Grad F: It's the ear - plug mike. Postdoc A: Ear - plug. PhD E: That's good. PhD C: Is that a wireless, or <unk>disfmarker<unk>? Oh. Grad F: No. Grad G: It's wired. Professor B: Oh! Postdoc A: Is that <unk>disfmarker<unk> Does that mean you can't hear anything during the meeting? Grad D: It's old - school. Grad F: Huh? What? Huh? Professor B: Should we, uh, close the door, maybe? Grad F: It <unk>disfmarker<unk> it's a fairly good mike, actually. Professor B: So it's <unk>disfmarker<unk> Yeah. Huh. Grad F: Well, I shouldn't say it's a good mike. All I really know is that the signal level is OK. I don't know if it's a <unk>disfmarker<unk> the quality. Professor B: Well, that's a Grad F: Ugh! So I didn't send out agenda items because until five minutes ago we only had one agenda item and now we have two. So. <unk>vocalsound<unk> And, uh. Professor B: OK. So, just to repeat the thing bef that we said last week, it was there's this suggestion of alternating weeks on <unk>vocalsound<unk> more, uh, automatic speech recognition related or not? Was that sort of <unk>pause<unk> the division? Grad F: Right. Professor B: So which week are we in? Grad F: Well <unk>disfmarker<unk> We haven't really started, but I thought we more <unk>disfmarker<unk> Question: Summarize the discussion about new headphones and disk space Answer:
The team decided that it would be a good idea to purchase headphones. They also ordered a hundred gigabytes of disk space though they thought an extra eighteen for backup would not be a bad idea. This was good because the team was currently constrained by space.
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Text: Grad F: OK. PhD C: Adam, what is the mike that, uh, Jeremy's wearing? Grad F: It's the ear - plug mike. Postdoc A: Ear - plug. PhD E: That's good. PhD C: Is that a wireless, or <unk>disfmarker<unk>? Oh. Grad F: No. Grad G: It's wired. Professor B: Oh! Postdoc A: Is that <unk>disfmarker<unk> Does that mean you can't hear anything during the meeting? Grad D: It's old - school. Grad F: Huh? What? Huh? Professor B: Should we, uh, close the door, maybe? Grad F: It <unk>disfmarker<unk> it's a fairly good mike, actually. Professor B: So it's <unk>disfmarker<unk> Yeah. Huh. Grad F: Well, I shouldn't say it's a good mike. All I really know is that the signal level is OK. I don't know if it's a <unk>disfmarker<unk> the quality. Professor B: Well, that's a Grad F: Ugh! So I didn't send out agenda items because until five minutes ago we only had one agenda item and now we have two. So. <unk>vocalsound<unk> And, uh. Professor B: OK. So, just to repeat the thing bef that we said last week, it was there's this suggestion of alternating weeks on <unk>vocalsound<unk> more, uh, automatic speech recognition related or not? Was that sort of <unk>pause<unk> the division? Grad F: Right. Professor B: So which week are we in? Grad F: Well <unk>disfmarker<unk> We haven't really started, but I thought we more <unk>disfmarker<unk> we Question: What did postdoc A think about new headphones? Answer:
Postdoc A thought that the original headphones had low gain, so he purchased new earphones. He informed the team that he just bought them from Cambridge SoundWorks down the street. They always have them in stock.
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Text: Grad F: OK. PhD C: Adam, what is the mike that, uh, Jeremy's wearing? Grad F: It's the ear - plug mike. Postdoc A: Ear - plug. PhD E: That's good. PhD C: Is that a wireless, or <unk>disfmarker<unk>? Oh. Grad F: No. Grad G: It's wired. Professor B: Oh! Postdoc A: Is that <unk>disfmarker<unk> Does that mean you can't hear anything during the meeting? Grad D: It's old - school. Grad F: Huh? What? Huh? Professor B: Should we, uh, close the door, maybe? Grad F: It <unk>disfmarker<unk> it's a fairly good mike, actually. Professor B: So it's <unk>disfmarker<unk> Yeah. Huh. Grad F: Well, I shouldn't say it's a good mike. All I really know is that the signal level is OK. I don't know if it's a <unk>disfmarker<unk> the quality. Professor B: Well, that's a Grad F: Ugh! So I didn't send out agenda items because until five minutes ago we only had one agenda item and now we have two. So. <unk>vocalsound<unk> And, uh. Professor B: OK. So, just to repeat the thing bef that we said last week, it was there's this suggestion of alternating weeks on <unk>vocalsound<unk> more, uh, automatic speech recognition related or not? Was that sort of <unk>pause<unk> the division? Grad F: Right. Professor B: So which week are we in? Grad F: Well <unk>disfmarker<unk> We haven't really started, but I thought we more <unk>disfmarker<unk> Question: What did the Professor think about headphones and disk space? Answer:
The professor thought that anyone who needed headphones should purchase them since they were not very expensive. He wanted to get the discussion about disk space out of the way. He informed the team that he had ordered a hundred gigabytes.
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Text: Grad F: OK. PhD C: Adam, what is the mike that, uh, Jeremy's wearing? Grad F: It's the ear - plug mike. Postdoc A: Ear - plug. PhD E: That's good. PhD C: Is that a wireless, or <unk>disfmarker<unk>? Oh. Grad F: No. Grad G: It's wired. Professor B: Oh! Postdoc A: Is that <unk>disfmarker<unk> Does that mean you can't hear anything during the meeting? Grad D: It's old - school. Grad F: Huh? What? Huh? Professor B: Should we, uh, close the door, maybe? Grad F: It <unk>disfmarker<unk> it's a fairly good mike, actually. Professor B: So it's <unk>disfmarker<unk> Yeah. Huh. Grad F: Well, I shouldn't say it's a good mike. All I really know is that the signal level is OK. I don't know if it's a <unk>disfmarker<unk> the quality. Professor B: Well, that's a Grad F: Ugh! So I didn't send out agenda items because until five minutes ago we only had one agenda item and now we have two. So. <unk>vocalsound<unk> And, uh. Professor B: OK. So, just to repeat the thing bef that we said last week, it was there's this suggestion of alternating weeks on <unk>vocalsound<unk> more, uh, automatic speech recognition related or not? Was that sort of <unk>pause<unk> the division? Grad F: Right. Professor B: So which week are we in? Grad F: Well <unk>disfmarker<unk> We haven't really started, but I thought we more <unk>disfmarker<unk> we more or less did Meeting Question: Summarize the meeting Answer:
The meeting was mostly about the logistics of covering the legal bases around releasing meeting data. The team wanted to make sure that meeting participants would not sue for libel or releasing unwanted information. The team also went over the transcriptions that IBM had done as well as storage space, which was finally looking up. The meeting ended with a general discussion about the progress of the group and future directions.
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Text: Project Manager: Okay we all all set? Right. Well this is the uh final detailed design meeting. Um we're gonna discuss the look and feel design, the user interface design, and we're gonna evaluate the product. And the end result of this meeting has to be a decision on the details of this remote control, like absolute final decision, um and then I'm gonna have to specify the final design in the final report. So um just from from last time to recap, we said we were gonna have a snowman shaped remote control with no L_C_D_ display, no need for talk-back, it was hopefully gonna be kinetic power and battery uh with rubber buttons, maybe backlighting the buttons with some internal L_E_D_s to shine through the casing, um hopefully a jog-dial, and incorporating the slogan somewhere as well. Anything I've missed? Industrial Designer: No. Project Manager: Okay um so uh if you want to present your prototype go ahead. User Interface: Uh-oh. This is it? <unk>vocalsound<unk> Industrial Designer: Ninja Homer, made in Japan. <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Um, there are a few changes we've made. Project Manager: Okay. User Interface: Um, well look at the expense sheet, and uh it turned to be quite a lot expensive to have open up and have lots of buttons and stuff inside, Project Manager: Mm. Mm-hmm. User Interface: so instead we've um <unk>disfmarker<unk> this is gonna be an L_C_D_ screen, um just a a very very basic one, very small um with access to the menu through the the scroll wheel and uh confirm um button. Marketing: Mm 'kay. User Interface: Uh, apart from that, it's just pretty much the same as we discussed last time. Industrial Designer: And there isn't uh d it doesn't open up to the advanced Question: Summarize the discussion about changes in the current design. Answer:
User Interface indicated to have a simple LCD screen to cut down the budget, while Industrial Designer suggested the application of a little more complex LCD panel, like the number pad, could display the advanced functions possibly used by the users. Marketing and Project Manager agreed with Industrial Designer. Next, the group turned to discuss some details, like the total size for the button, and the various functions of the button as well as a jog-dial.
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Text: Project Manager: Okay we all all set? Right. Well this is the uh final detailed design meeting. Um we're gonna discuss the look and feel design, the user interface design, and we're gonna evaluate the product. And the end result of this meeting has to be a decision on the details of this remote control, like absolute final decision, um and then I'm gonna have to specify the final design in the final report. So um just from from last time to recap, we said we were gonna have a snowman shaped remote control with no L_C_D_ display, no need for talk-back, it was hopefully gonna be kinetic power and battery uh with rubber buttons, maybe backlighting the buttons with some internal L_E_D_s to shine through the casing, um hopefully a jog-dial, and incorporating the slogan somewhere as well. Anything I've missed? Industrial Designer: No. Project Manager: Okay um so uh if you want to present your prototype go ahead. User Interface: Uh-oh. This is it? <unk>vocalsound<unk> Industrial Designer: Ninja Homer, made in Japan. <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Um, there are a few changes we've made. Project Manager: Okay. User Interface: Um, well look at the expense sheet, and uh it turned to be quite a lot expensive to have open up and have lots of buttons and stuff inside, Project Manager: Mm. Mm-hmm. User Interface: so instead we've um <unk>disfmarker<unk> this is gonna be an L_C_D_ screen, um just a a very very basic one, very small um with access to the menu through the the scroll wheel and uh confirm um button. Marketing: Mm 'kay. User Interface: Uh, apart from that, it's just pretty much the same as we discussed last time. Industrial Designer: And there isn't uh d it doesn't open Question: What was the discussion about the button when talking about changes in the current design? Answer:
The button was red with a width of three centimeters and a half. As for the function, it could be used as a confirm button for the LCD screen and a power button if the user held it for around two seconds.
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Text: Project Manager: Okay we all all set? Right. Well this is the uh final detailed design meeting. Um we're gonna discuss the look and feel design, the user interface design, and we're gonna evaluate the product. And the end result of this meeting has to be a decision on the details of this remote control, like absolute final decision, um and then I'm gonna have to specify the final design in the final report. So um just from from last time to recap, we said we were gonna have a snowman shaped remote control with no L_C_D_ display, no need for talk-back, it was hopefully gonna be kinetic power and battery uh with rubber buttons, maybe backlighting the buttons with some internal L_E_D_s to shine through the casing, um hopefully a jog-dial, and incorporating the slogan somewhere as well. Anything I've missed? Industrial Designer: No. Project Manager: Okay um so uh if you want to present your prototype go ahead. User Interface: Uh-oh. This is it? <unk>vocalsound<unk> Industrial Designer: Ninja Homer, made in Japan. <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Um, there are a few changes we've made. Project Manager: Okay. User Interface: Um, well look at the expense sheet, and uh it turned to be quite a lot expensive to have open up and have lots of buttons and stuff inside, Project Manager: Mm. Mm-hmm. User Interface: so instead we've um <unk>disfmarker<unk> this is gonna be an L_C_D_ screen, um just a a very very basic one, very small um with access to the menu through the the scroll wheel and uh confirm um button. Marketing: Mm 'kay. User Interface: Uh, apart from that, it's just pretty much the same as we discussed last time. Industrial Designer: And there isn't uh Question: What was the discussion about the jog dial's function when talking about changes in the current design? Answer:
The jog dial can be used to control volume, contrast, brightness, channels, auxiliary inputs, color, sharpness, sound, audio, left-right balance, and pre-programmed sound modes.
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Text: Project Manager: Okay we all all set? Right. Well this is the uh final detailed design meeting. Um we're gonna discuss the look and feel design, the user interface design, and we're gonna evaluate the product. And the end result of this meeting has to be a decision on the details of this remote control, like absolute final decision, um and then I'm gonna have to specify the final design in the final report. So um just from from last time to recap, we said we were gonna have a snowman shaped remote control with no L_C_D_ display, no need for talk-back, it was hopefully gonna be kinetic power and battery uh with rubber buttons, maybe backlighting the buttons with some internal L_E_D_s to shine through the casing, um hopefully a jog-dial, and incorporating the slogan somewhere as well. Anything I've missed? Industrial Designer: No. Project Manager: Okay um so uh if you want to present your prototype go ahead. User Interface: Uh-oh. This is it? <unk>vocalsound<unk> Industrial Designer: Ninja Homer, made in Japan. <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Um, there are a few changes we've made. Project Manager: Okay. User Interface: Um, well look at the expense sheet, and uh it turned to be quite a lot expensive to have open up and have lots of buttons and stuff inside, Project Manager: Mm. Mm-hmm. User Interface: so instead we've um <unk>disfmarker<unk> this is gonna be an L_C_D_ screen, um just a a very very basic one, very small um with access to the menu through the the scroll wheel and uh confirm um button. Marketing: Mm 'kay. User Interface: Uh, apart from that, it's just pretty much the same as we discussed last time. Industrial Designer: And there isn't uh d it doesn't open up to the advanced functions Question: Summarize the discussion about evaluating the project. Answer:
Project Manager wanted the members to evaluate the whole process of the project, such as the system, leadership, teamwork, and tools given. The meeting system was considered creative yet inefficient as the early designs were found generally out of budget. As for leadership, the process was a bit too structured. As for teamwork, additional communications like the quick talk could further prompt the current system. Besides, the tools given were criticized for the isolation of each's tasks and thoughts.
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Text: Project Manager: Okay we all all set? Right. Well this is the uh final detailed design meeting. Um we're gonna discuss the look and feel design, the user interface design, and we're gonna evaluate the product. And the end result of this meeting has to be a decision on the details of this remote control, like absolute final decision, um and then I'm gonna have to specify the final design in the final report. So um just from from last time to recap, we said we were gonna have a snowman shaped remote control with no L_C_D_ display, no need for talk-back, it was hopefully gonna be kinetic power and battery uh with rubber buttons, maybe backlighting the buttons with some internal L_E_D_s to shine through the casing, um hopefully a jog-dial, and incorporating the slogan somewhere as well. Anything I've missed? Industrial Designer: No. Project Manager: Okay um so uh if you want to present your prototype go ahead. User Interface: Uh-oh. This is it? <unk>vocalsound<unk> Industrial Designer: Ninja Homer, made in Japan. <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Um, there are a few changes we've made. Project Manager: Okay. User Interface: Um, well look at the expense sheet, and uh it turned to be quite a lot expensive to have open up and have lots of buttons and stuff inside, Project Manager: Mm. Mm-hmm. User Interface: so instead we've um <unk>disfmarker<unk> this is gonna be an L_C_D_ screen, um just a a very very basic one, very small um with access to the menu through the the scroll wheel and uh confirm um button. Marketing: Mm 'kay. User Interface: Uh, apart from that, it's just pretty much the same as we discussed last time. Industrial Designer: And there isn't uh d it doesn't open Question: What did Marketing think about Project Manager's system when evaluating the project? Answer:
Marketing thought Project Manager's system was fairly institutional with a central point of creativity, but the group ought to focus more on the stylish look and technology and make a proper consideration on the budget.
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Text: Project Manager: Okay we all all set? Right. Well this is the uh final detailed design meeting. Um we're gonna discuss the look and feel design, the user interface design, and we're gonna evaluate the product. And the end result of this meeting has to be a decision on the details of this remote control, like absolute final decision, um and then I'm gonna have to specify the final design in the final report. So um just from from last time to recap, we said we were gonna have a snowman shaped remote control with no L_C_D_ display, no need for talk-back, it was hopefully gonna be kinetic power and battery uh with rubber buttons, maybe backlighting the buttons with some internal L_E_D_s to shine through the casing, um hopefully a jog-dial, and incorporating the slogan somewhere as well. Anything I've missed? Industrial Designer: No. Project Manager: Okay um so uh if you want to present your prototype go ahead. User Interface: Uh-oh. This is it? <unk>vocalsound<unk> Industrial Designer: Ninja Homer, made in Japan. <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Um, there are a few changes we've made. Project Manager: Okay. User Interface: Um, well look at the expense sheet, and uh it turned to be quite a lot expensive to have open up and have lots of buttons and stuff inside, Project Manager: Mm. Mm-hmm. User Interface: so instead we've um <unk>disfmarker<unk> this is gonna be an L_C_D_ screen, um just a a very very basic one, very small um with access to the menu through the the scroll wheel and uh confirm um button. Marketing: Mm 'kay. User Interface: Uh, apart from that, it's just pretty much the same as we discussed last time. Industrial Designer: And there isn't uh d it doesn't open up to the advanced functions? Question: What did Industrial Designer think of the project? Answer:
Industrial Designer thought the meeting was not friendly to the brainstorming. The restriction was not about the atmosphere but related to the actual environment and the limited time for discussion. Besides, the interaction was structured, meaning each individual took charge of one particular task without enough collaboration between each other. Also, communication through email was inefficient.
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Text: Project Manager: Okay we all all set? Right. Well this is the uh final detailed design meeting. Um we're gonna discuss the look and feel design, the user interface design, and we're gonna evaluate the product. And the end result of this meeting has to be a decision on the details of this remote control, like absolute final decision, um and then I'm gonna have to specify the final design in the final report. So um just from from last time to recap, we said we were gonna have a snowman shaped remote control with no L_C_D_ display, no need for talk-back, it was hopefully gonna be kinetic power and battery uh with rubber buttons, maybe backlighting the buttons with some internal L_E_D_s to shine through the casing, um hopefully a jog-dial, and incorporating the slogan somewhere as well. Anything I've missed? Industrial Designer: No. Project Manager: Okay um so uh if you want to present your prototype go ahead. User Interface: Uh-oh. This is it? <unk>vocalsound<unk> Industrial Designer: Ninja Homer, made in Japan. <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Um, there are a few changes we've made. Project Manager: Okay. User Interface: Um, well look at the expense sheet, and uh it turned to be quite a lot expensive to have open up and have lots of buttons and stuff inside, Project Manager: Mm. Mm-hmm. User Interface: so instead we've um <unk>disfmarker<unk> this is gonna be an L_C_D_ screen, um just a a very very basic one, very small um with access to the menu through the the scroll wheel and uh confirm um button. Marketing: Mm 'kay. User Interface: Uh, apart from that, it's just pretty much the same as we discussed last time. Industrial Designer: And there isn't uh d it doesn't open up to the advanced functions? the advanced Question: Summarize the whole meeting. Answer:
This was the final meeting of detailed design. To start with, Project Manager introduced the planned scheme of the meeting, followed by User Interface and Industrial Designer indicating the possible changes into an LCD screen and a jog-dial. After that, the group continued to talk about the slogan, the button size, and the button color. However, considering the budget, they consistently abandoned some of the designs. These included kinetic power, rubber material, LCD panel, advanced chip, and special colored buttons. Marketing moved the discussion to evaluate the current design through collectively rating from one to seven. The final part was the project evaluation, including the system, leadership, teamwork, and tools given.
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Text: Project Manager: Right uh. So um. So where's the PowerPoint presentation? Sorry? Microsoft PowerPoint, right. Right, okay. So. Right. Okay, so we've got uh so we've got new project requirements. Um. So basically we've got three things, and we've got forty minutes in which to uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> for this meeting to uh to discuss the various options. Um. Three presentations. Industrial Designer: We have a <unk>disfmarker<unk> I guess we have a presentation each, 'cause I've got one. Um. User Interface: Yeah. Marketing: Yeah, Project Manager: I see, right. Marketing: I've got one too. Project Manager: That's nice to know, one from each of you. Um new project requirements. Um so do we want to do the presentation first, or do we want to um <unk>disfmarker<unk> W I I got um <unk>gap<unk> or or three things basically, um relating to the remote being only for T_V_. We discussed that last time Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: and in actual fact that was pr pretty well what we came up with anyway. Marketing: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: So in fact it actually f we won't be forestalled <unk>vocalsound<unk> in a sense. Marketing: Mm-hmm. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Industrial Designer: <unk>gap<unk> Project Manager: Um we've got uh teletext outdated. Um did you get any information on that? Industrial Designer: Uh we didn't, no. User Interface: No. Project Manager: Right and the corporate image was the uh final thing. Industrial Designer: I d I didn't personally. Marketing: Hmm. Project Manager: So I I got that in email form. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: Um. Right okay. So I Question: Summarize the presentation and discussion about the design of the remote. Answer:
User Interface preferred a more user-friendly remote with nice big buttons and limited number of buttons. She also gave her suggestions about the symbol and colour of the remote. Then, they discussed the number of buttons on the remote.
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Text: Project Manager: Right uh. So um. So where's the PowerPoint presentation? Sorry? Microsoft PowerPoint, right. Right, okay. So. Right. Okay, so we've got uh so we've got new project requirements. Um. So basically we've got three things, and we've got forty minutes in which to uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> for this meeting to uh to discuss the various options. Um. Three presentations. Industrial Designer: We have a <unk>disfmarker<unk> I guess we have a presentation each, 'cause I've got one. Um. User Interface: Yeah. Marketing: Yeah, Project Manager: I see, right. Marketing: I've got one too. Project Manager: That's nice to know, one from each of you. Um new project requirements. Um so do we want to do the presentation first, or do we want to um <unk>disfmarker<unk> W I I got um <unk>gap<unk> or or three things basically, um relating to the remote being only for T_V_. We discussed that last time Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: and in actual fact that was pr pretty well what we came up with anyway. Marketing: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: So in fact it actually f we won't be forestalled <unk>vocalsound<unk> in a sense. Marketing: Mm-hmm. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Industrial Designer: <unk>gap<unk> Project Manager: Um we've got uh teletext outdated. Um did you get any information on that? Industrial Designer: Uh we didn't, no. User Interface: No. Project Manager: Right and the corporate image was the uh final thing. Industrial Designer: I d I didn't personally. Marketing: Hmm. Project Manager: So I I got that in email form. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: Um Question: What did Project Manager think of the symbol and colour of the remote when discussing the design of the remote? Answer:
User Interface suggested that they could design the symbols and colours for the remote. However, the Project Manager reminded the team that they should put their own logo and colour scheme on the remote, which means that they could not design those things by themselves.
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Text: Project Manager: Right uh. So um. So where's the PowerPoint presentation? Sorry? Microsoft PowerPoint, right. Right, okay. So. Right. Okay, so we've got uh so we've got new project requirements. Um. So basically we've got three things, and we've got forty minutes in which to uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> for this meeting to uh to discuss the various options. Um. Three presentations. Industrial Designer: We have a <unk>disfmarker<unk> I guess we have a presentation each, 'cause I've got one. Um. User Interface: Yeah. Marketing: Yeah, Project Manager: I see, right. Marketing: I've got one too. Project Manager: That's nice to know, one from each of you. Um new project requirements. Um so do we want to do the presentation first, or do we want to um <unk>disfmarker<unk> W I I got um <unk>gap<unk> or or three things basically, um relating to the remote being only for T_V_. We discussed that last time Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: and in actual fact that was pr pretty well what we came up with anyway. Marketing: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: So in fact it actually f we won't be forestalled <unk>vocalsound<unk> in a sense. Marketing: Mm-hmm. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Industrial Designer: <unk>gap<unk> Project Manager: Um we've got uh teletext outdated. Um did you get any information on that? Industrial Designer: Uh we didn't, no. User Interface: No. Project Manager: Right and the corporate image was the uh final thing. Industrial Designer: I d I didn't personally. Marketing: Hmm. Project Manager: So I I got that in email form. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: Um. Right okay. Question: What is the decision of the discussion about the number of buttons on the remote? Answer:
The team agreed that there should be 17 buttons on the remote, including number 0 to 9, volume up and down, mute, channel up and down, stand-by and power buttons. Besides the buttons of brightness and contrast should be put on the back of the remote.
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Text: Project Manager: Right uh. So um. So where's the PowerPoint presentation? Sorry? Microsoft PowerPoint, right. Right, okay. So. Right. Okay, so we've got uh so we've got new project requirements. Um. So basically we've got three things, and we've got forty minutes in which to uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> for this meeting to uh to discuss the various options. Um. Three presentations. Industrial Designer: We have a <unk>disfmarker<unk> I guess we have a presentation each, 'cause I've got one. Um. User Interface: Yeah. Marketing: Yeah, Project Manager: I see, right. Marketing: I've got one too. Project Manager: That's nice to know, one from each of you. Um new project requirements. Um so do we want to do the presentation first, or do we want to um <unk>disfmarker<unk> W I I got um <unk>gap<unk> or or three things basically, um relating to the remote being only for T_V_. We discussed that last time Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: and in actual fact that was pr pretty well what we came up with anyway. Marketing: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: So in fact it actually f we won't be forestalled <unk>vocalsound<unk> in a sense. Marketing: Mm-hmm. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Industrial Designer: <unk>gap<unk> Project Manager: Um we've got uh teletext outdated. Um did you get any information on that? Industrial Designer: Uh we didn't, no. User Interface: No. Project Manager: Right and the corporate image was the uh final thing. Industrial Designer: I d I didn't personally. Marketing: Hmm. Project Manager: So I I got that in email form. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager Question: Summarize the presentation about the customer's functional requirements of the remote and the team's discussion about it. Answer:
According to the research of Marketing, three quarters of the customers thought that their remotes are ugly. People only concentrated on the channel buttons, the volume buttons and the power buttons, and other buttons on the remote were seldom pressed. Many customers found it frustrating when their remotes were lost somewhere else in the room and they couldn't find them. Besides, it was difficult for people to learn all the functions on the remote. Then the team discussed the idea of a speech recognition system for the remote.
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Text: Project Manager: Right uh. So um. So where's the PowerPoint presentation? Sorry? Microsoft PowerPoint, right. Right, okay. So. Right. Okay, so we've got uh so we've got new project requirements. Um. So basically we've got three things, and we've got forty minutes in which to uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> for this meeting to uh to discuss the various options. Um. Three presentations. Industrial Designer: We have a <unk>disfmarker<unk> I guess we have a presentation each, 'cause I've got one. Um. User Interface: Yeah. Marketing: Yeah, Project Manager: I see, right. Marketing: I've got one too. Project Manager: That's nice to know, one from each of you. Um new project requirements. Um so do we want to do the presentation first, or do we want to um <unk>disfmarker<unk> W I I got um <unk>gap<unk> or or three things basically, um relating to the remote being only for T_V_. We discussed that last time Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: and in actual fact that was pr pretty well what we came up with anyway. Marketing: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: So in fact it actually f we won't be forestalled <unk>vocalsound<unk> in a sense. Marketing: Mm-hmm. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Industrial Designer: <unk>gap<unk> Project Manager: Um we've got uh teletext outdated. Um did you get any information on that? Industrial Designer: Uh we didn't, no. User Interface: No. Project Manager: Right and the corporate image was the uh final thing. Industrial Designer: I d I didn't personally. Marketing: Hmm. Project Manager: So I I got that in email form. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: Um. Right okay. So I guess if Question: What did Marketing suggest about the functions of the remote? Answer:
Marketing suggested that the remote should be good looking and high-tech. And they should concentrate on the functions of changing channels and volumes. Besides, they could also think about using speech recognition as a way for people to find the remote control if it's lost in a room.
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Text: Project Manager: Right uh. So um. So where's the PowerPoint presentation? Sorry? Microsoft PowerPoint, right. Right, okay. So. Right. Okay, so we've got uh so we've got new project requirements. Um. So basically we've got three things, and we've got forty minutes in which to uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> for this meeting to uh to discuss the various options. Um. Three presentations. Industrial Designer: We have a <unk>disfmarker<unk> I guess we have a presentation each, 'cause I've got one. Um. User Interface: Yeah. Marketing: Yeah, Project Manager: I see, right. Marketing: I've got one too. Project Manager: That's nice to know, one from each of you. Um new project requirements. Um so do we want to do the presentation first, or do we want to um <unk>disfmarker<unk> W I I got um <unk>gap<unk> or or three things basically, um relating to the remote being only for T_V_. We discussed that last time Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: and in actual fact that was pr pretty well what we came up with anyway. Marketing: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: So in fact it actually f we won't be forestalled <unk>vocalsound<unk> in a sense. Marketing: Mm-hmm. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Industrial Designer: <unk>gap<unk> Project Manager: Um we've got uh teletext outdated. Um did you get any information on that? Industrial Designer: Uh we didn't, no. User Interface: No. Project Manager: Right and the corporate image was the uh final thing. Industrial Designer: I d I didn't personally. Marketing: Hmm. Project Manager: So I I got that in email form. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: Um. Right Question: What did Industrial Designer think about the idea of speech recognition when discussing the function of the remote? Answer:
Industrial Designer thought that the technology would be quite advanced and they might end up costing more than 25 budgets for speech recognition.
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Text: Project Manager: Right uh. So um. So where's the PowerPoint presentation? Sorry? Microsoft PowerPoint, right. Right, okay. So. Right. Okay, so we've got uh so we've got new project requirements. Um. So basically we've got three things, and we've got forty minutes in which to uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> for this meeting to uh to discuss the various options. Um. Three presentations. Industrial Designer: We have a <unk>disfmarker<unk> I guess we have a presentation each, 'cause I've got one. Um. User Interface: Yeah. Marketing: Yeah, Project Manager: I see, right. Marketing: I've got one too. Project Manager: That's nice to know, one from each of you. Um new project requirements. Um so do we want to do the presentation first, or do we want to um <unk>disfmarker<unk> W I I got um <unk>gap<unk> or or three things basically, um relating to the remote being only for T_V_. We discussed that last time Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: and in actual fact that was pr pretty well what we came up with anyway. Marketing: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: So in fact it actually f we won't be forestalled <unk>vocalsound<unk> in a sense. Marketing: Mm-hmm. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Industrial Designer: <unk>gap<unk> Project Manager: Um we've got uh teletext outdated. Um did you get any information on that? Industrial Designer: Uh we didn't, no. User Interface: No. Project Manager: Right and the corporate image was the uh final thing. Industrial Designer: I d I didn't personally. Marketing: Hmm. Project Manager: So I I got that in email form. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: Um. Right okay. So I guess if we go ahead with Question: Summarize the whole meeting. Answer:
The Project Manager gave a brief review of the team's last meeting, then Industrial Designer, User Interface and Marketing gave their presentation each. Industrial Designer's presentation is about the components and system of the remote control. User Interface gave the presentation about the design of the remote. The team agreed that there should be 17 buttons on the front of the remote and two on the back. Marketing's presentation is about the research into the functional requirements that people want out of their remote control. The team agreed that they could add a clap-back function to the remote.
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Text: Project Manager: Okay. Um welcome to our second meeting. This is the functional design meeting. And I hope you all had a good individual working time. Okay, let's get started. Okay, here's the agenda for the meeting. After the opening um I am going to fulfil the role of secretary, take the meeting minutes. And we're gonna have three presentations, one from each of you. Then we're gonna discuss some new project requirements. Um gonna come to a decision on the functions of the remote control. And then we're gonna close up the meeting. And we're gonna do this all in about forty minutes. <unk>gap<unk> Okay. First I want to discuss the goals of this meeting. First we need to determine the user requirements and the question that we can ask ourselves is what needs and desires are to be fulfilled by this remote control. And then we're going to determine the technical functions, what is the effect of the apparatus, what actually is it supposed to do, what do people pick up the remote and use it for. And then lastly we're going to determine its working design, how exactly will it perform its functions, that's the whole technical side of <unk>disfmarker<unk> 'Kay I'll just give you a minute, 'cause it looks like you're making some notes. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: 'Kay. Oh, well let's go ahead and, User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>gap<unk> back, previous. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: So what I wanna do right now is hear from all three of you, on your research that you just did. Who would like to start us off? 'Kay. User Interface: I don't mind going first. Project Manager: Okay. Um do you have a PowerPoint or no? User Interface: Yeah, it's in the <unk>disfmarker<unk> should be in the m Project Question: Summarize Marketing's presentation on functional requirements. Answer:
Marketing first shared the results of their lab tests. It was found that users preferred a fancier but yet simpler remote, and as a result, their product should be high-tech looking but also user-friendly. Since the research found that most users would only use ten percent of the buttons, they decided to only keep the most necessary ones on their remote. Users also claimed that remotes tend to be lost easily. Finally, since speech recognition was popular among users, the remote should have this function as well.
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Text: Project Manager: Okay. Um welcome to our second meeting. This is the functional design meeting. And I hope you all had a good individual working time. Okay, let's get started. Okay, here's the agenda for the meeting. After the opening um I am going to fulfil the role of secretary, take the meeting minutes. And we're gonna have three presentations, one from each of you. Then we're gonna discuss some new project requirements. Um gonna come to a decision on the functions of the remote control. And then we're gonna close up the meeting. And we're gonna do this all in about forty minutes. <unk>gap<unk> Okay. First I want to discuss the goals of this meeting. First we need to determine the user requirements and the question that we can ask ourselves is what needs and desires are to be fulfilled by this remote control. And then we're going to determine the technical functions, what is the effect of the apparatus, what actually is it supposed to do, what do people pick up the remote and use it for. And then lastly we're going to determine its working design, how exactly will it perform its functions, that's the whole technical side of <unk>disfmarker<unk> 'Kay I'll just give you a minute, 'cause it looks like you're making some notes. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: 'Kay. Oh, well let's go ahead and, User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>gap<unk> back, previous. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: So what I wanna do right now is hear from all three of you, on your research that you just did. Who would like to start us off? 'Kay. User Interface: I don't mind going first. Project Manager: Okay. Um do you have a PowerPoint or no? User Interface: Yeah, it's in the <unk>disfmarker<unk> should be in the Question: What did the lab tests tell them about the design of buttons? Answer:
According to the lab tests, users only use ten percent of the buttons on a remote. It was shown that users didn't really need all the buttons provided by current remotes, and it would be more user-friendly if their new remote could lose the unnecessary ones. The most frequently used buttons were those for the channel, the volume and the power on/off.
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Text: Project Manager: Okay. Um welcome to our second meeting. This is the functional design meeting. And I hope you all had a good individual working time. Okay, let's get started. Okay, here's the agenda for the meeting. After the opening um I am going to fulfil the role of secretary, take the meeting minutes. And we're gonna have three presentations, one from each of you. Then we're gonna discuss some new project requirements. Um gonna come to a decision on the functions of the remote control. And then we're gonna close up the meeting. And we're gonna do this all in about forty minutes. <unk>gap<unk> Okay. First I want to discuss the goals of this meeting. First we need to determine the user requirements and the question that we can ask ourselves is what needs and desires are to be fulfilled by this remote control. And then we're going to determine the technical functions, what is the effect of the apparatus, what actually is it supposed to do, what do people pick up the remote and use it for. And then lastly we're going to determine its working design, how exactly will it perform its functions, that's the whole technical side of <unk>disfmarker<unk> 'Kay I'll just give you a minute, 'cause it looks like you're making some notes. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: 'Kay. Oh, well let's go ahead and, User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>gap<unk> back, previous. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: So what I wanna do right now is hear from all three of you, on your research that you just did. Who would like to start us off? 'Kay. User Interface: I don't mind going first. Project Manager: Okay. Um do you have a PowerPoint or no? User Interface: Yeah, it's in the <unk>disf Question: What could they do to make the remote more modern and high-class in regard to its function design? Answer:
One thing they could do was to design a lost-and-found function to accommodate the user's need to retrieve the remote when it was lost. Another way was to give it a modern eye-catching design that could distinguish the new remote from current standard ones. Also, given that speech recognition was an up-and-coming thing among their target group, they could include this function in the remote, allowing users to control their devices by simply speaking to it.
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Text: Project Manager: Okay. Um welcome to our second meeting. This is the functional design meeting. And I hope you all had a good individual working time. Okay, let's get started. Okay, here's the agenda for the meeting. After the opening um I am going to fulfil the role of secretary, take the meeting minutes. And we're gonna have three presentations, one from each of you. Then we're gonna discuss some new project requirements. Um gonna come to a decision on the functions of the remote control. And then we're gonna close up the meeting. And we're gonna do this all in about forty minutes. <unk>gap<unk> Okay. First I want to discuss the goals of this meeting. First we need to determine the user requirements and the question that we can ask ourselves is what needs and desires are to be fulfilled by this remote control. And then we're going to determine the technical functions, what is the effect of the apparatus, what actually is it supposed to do, what do people pick up the remote and use it for. And then lastly we're going to determine its working design, how exactly will it perform its functions, that's the whole technical side of <unk>disfmarker<unk> 'Kay I'll just give you a minute, 'cause it looks like you're making some notes. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: 'Kay. Oh, well let's go ahead and, User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>gap<unk> back, previous. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: So what I wanna do right now is hear from all three of you, on your research that you just did. Who would like to start us off? 'Kay. User Interface: I don't mind going first. Project Manager: Okay. Um do you have a PowerPoint or no? User Interface: Yeah, it's in the <unk>disfmark Question: Summarize the additional ideas on function design which the team brought up based on previous presentations. Answer:
Project Manager first announced that their product was only going to be a TV remote instead of a multifunctional one, and that the yellow colour and the slogan of their company should be included in their design. Their target group should be people of all ages with little to no technical literacy. The specific functions of their remote should include sending messages to the TV, lost-and-found assistance, and speech recognition. A menu button could be designed to cover all various additional functions.
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Text: Project Manager: Okay. Um welcome to our second meeting. This is the functional design meeting. And I hope you all had a good individual working time. Okay, let's get started. Okay, here's the agenda for the meeting. After the opening um I am going to fulfil the role of secretary, take the meeting minutes. And we're gonna have three presentations, one from each of you. Then we're gonna discuss some new project requirements. Um gonna come to a decision on the functions of the remote control. And then we're gonna close up the meeting. And we're gonna do this all in about forty minutes. <unk>gap<unk> Okay. First I want to discuss the goals of this meeting. First we need to determine the user requirements and the question that we can ask ourselves is what needs and desires are to be fulfilled by this remote control. And then we're going to determine the technical functions, what is the effect of the apparatus, what actually is it supposed to do, what do people pick up the remote and use it for. And then lastly we're going to determine its working design, how exactly will it perform its functions, that's the whole technical side of <unk>disfmarker<unk> 'Kay I'll just give you a minute, 'cause it looks like you're making some notes. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: 'Kay. Oh, well let's go ahead and, User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>gap<unk> back, previous. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: So what I wanna do right now is hear from all three of you, on your research that you just did. Who would like to start us off? 'Kay. User Interface: I don't mind going first. Project Manager: Okay. Um do you have a PowerPoint or no? User Interface: Yeah, it's in the <unk>d Question: In the discussion of function design, how could the team realize the lost-and-found function of their remote? Answer:
Industrial Designer suggested that the remote could be attached to a charger base, and the lost remote would beep if a button on the base was pushed. This might add to their costs, and would require a rechargeable battery for the remote. Project Manager later proposed that the speech recognition could be part of the lost-and-found device. This would allow the remote to beep when hearing a certain phrase.
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Text: Project Manager: Okay. Um welcome to our second meeting. This is the functional design meeting. And I hope you all had a good individual working time. Okay, let's get started. Okay, here's the agenda for the meeting. After the opening um I am going to fulfil the role of secretary, take the meeting minutes. And we're gonna have three presentations, one from each of you. Then we're gonna discuss some new project requirements. Um gonna come to a decision on the functions of the remote control. And then we're gonna close up the meeting. And we're gonna do this all in about forty minutes. <unk>gap<unk> Okay. First I want to discuss the goals of this meeting. First we need to determine the user requirements and the question that we can ask ourselves is what needs and desires are to be fulfilled by this remote control. And then we're going to determine the technical functions, what is the effect of the apparatus, what actually is it supposed to do, what do people pick up the remote and use it for. And then lastly we're going to determine its working design, how exactly will it perform its functions, that's the whole technical side of <unk>disfmarker<unk> 'Kay I'll just give you a minute, 'cause it looks like you're making some notes. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: 'Kay. Oh, well let's go ahead and, User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>gap<unk> back, previous. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: So what I wanna do right now is hear from all three of you, on your research that you just did. Who would like to start us off? 'Kay. User Interface: I don't mind going first. Project Manager: Okay. Um do you have a PowerPoint or no? User Interface: Yeah, it's in the <unk>disfmarker<unk> should be in the m Question: What did the team decide on designing buttons for the remote? Answer:
User Interface first asked whether they could possibly leave out the number buttons, but this proposal was turned down by others. They simplified the buttons to on-off, volume, mute, channel up/down, and the numbers 0–9. For more advanced functions, Project Manager suggested an additional one-for-all menu button that would allow the user to pull up various options on the TV screen. The channel and volume buttons could be used for navigating the menu page.
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Text: Project Manager: Okay. Um welcome to our second meeting. This is the functional design meeting. And I hope you all had a good individual working time. Okay, let's get started. Okay, here's the agenda for the meeting. After the opening um I am going to fulfil the role of secretary, take the meeting minutes. And we're gonna have three presentations, one from each of you. Then we're gonna discuss some new project requirements. Um gonna come to a decision on the functions of the remote control. And then we're gonna close up the meeting. And we're gonna do this all in about forty minutes. <unk>gap<unk> Okay. First I want to discuss the goals of this meeting. First we need to determine the user requirements and the question that we can ask ourselves is what needs and desires are to be fulfilled by this remote control. And then we're going to determine the technical functions, what is the effect of the apparatus, what actually is it supposed to do, what do people pick up the remote and use it for. And then lastly we're going to determine its working design, how exactly will it perform its functions, that's the whole technical side of <unk>disfmarker<unk> 'Kay I'll just give you a minute, 'cause it looks like you're making some notes. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: 'Kay. Oh, well let's go ahead and, User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>gap<unk> back, previous. User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: So what I wanna do right now is hear from all three of you, on your research that you just did. Who would like to start us off? 'Kay. User Interface: I don't mind going first. Project Manager: Okay. Um do you have a PowerPoint or no? User Interface: Yeah, it's in the <unk>disfmarker<unk> should be in the m Project. Project Manager Question: Summarize the whole meeting. Answer:
This was the functional design meeting, where the team discussed what functions should be included in the remote and how they should be carried out. User Interface gave a presentation on the design of the remote, offering a complex version and a simple one. Marketing followed with a presentation on the functional requirements of the remote, pointing out that the remote should be both high-tech looking and user-friendly, preferably with fewer buttons, a lost-and-found function and speech recognition. Industrial Designer then presented the working design for the remote, including its power source, chips and the component layout. The team then went into a further in-depth discussion, dealing with the specific points raised in the above presentations. After everyone had shared their ideas, Project Manager closed the meeting by distributing new tasks among the team members for them to work on until their next meeting.
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Text: User Interface: Hi. Industrial Designer: Hi. Project Manager: Hello. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Oh. Project Manager: Good morning. User Interface: Good morning. Industrial Designer: Morning. Marketing: Good morning. Project Manager: Uh before I start with the with the meeting I have a few things to tell you about the the setting we're in, uh because we're uh being watched by uh Big Brother. So um <unk>disfmarker<unk> Marketing: By Big Brother? Project Manager: Yeah. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Yeah. Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Marketing: Okay. Project Manager: This uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> These are cameras, so are these. This thing uh that looks like a pie, Marketing: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: are actually all microphones. Marketing: Yeah. Okay. Project Manager: So you must be careful with uh with uh all this. And uh as I can see you uh you have placed your laptops uh exactly on the place where it must be. And that has to do with the camera settings, so we don't have our uh laptops in front of the cameras. Marketing: Of our faces. Project Manager: And <unk>disfmarker<unk> Indeed. So they can see our faces. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Okay. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: Welcome at the kick-off meeting. My name is uh Danny Wolfs. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Uh this is the agenda for today. Uh first a little opening. Uh I will introduce myself, uh and uh I think it's very uh good to introduce uh yourself. Uh then uh a little bit of acquaintance, acquaintance to uh to to ourselves. So uh we get to know each other. Uh that will be done uh with a tool Question: Summarize the discussion about financial targets of the new remote control project. Answer:
The remote control would be priced at 25 Euros, produced at the cost of 12.5 Euros. Since the company has international market range, at least 2 million units would have to be sold to meet the company's profit goals of 50 million Euros.
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Text: User Interface: Hi. Industrial Designer: Hi. Project Manager: Hello. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Oh. Project Manager: Good morning. User Interface: Good morning. Industrial Designer: Morning. Marketing: Good morning. Project Manager: Uh before I start with the with the meeting I have a few things to tell you about the the setting we're in, uh because we're uh being watched by uh Big Brother. So um <unk>disfmarker<unk> Marketing: By Big Brother? Project Manager: Yeah. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Yeah. Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Marketing: Okay. Project Manager: This uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> These are cameras, so are these. This thing uh that looks like a pie, Marketing: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: are actually all microphones. Marketing: Yeah. Okay. Project Manager: So you must be careful with uh with uh all this. And uh as I can see you uh you have placed your laptops uh exactly on the place where it must be. And that has to do with the camera settings, so we don't have our uh laptops in front of the cameras. Marketing: Of our faces. Project Manager: And <unk>disfmarker<unk> Indeed. So they can see our faces. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Okay. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: Welcome at the kick-off meeting. My name is uh Danny Wolfs. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Uh this is the agenda for today. Uh first a little opening. Uh I will introduce myself, uh and uh I think it's very uh good to introduce uh yourself. Uh then uh a little bit of acquaintance, acquaintance to uh to to ourselves. So uh we get to know each other. Uh that will be done uh with a tool training from the Question: What did the group discuss about new remote control features? Answer:
User Interface believed the most important function is to switch channels, and so it would be better to keep the remote control as basic as possible. Marketing proposed that the remote control had to be multi-purpose to be competitive among current products. Project Manager agreed to do something special on the product, but PM also pointed out being user-friendly was also of importance.
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Text: User Interface: Hi. Industrial Designer: Hi. Project Manager: Hello. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Oh. Project Manager: Good morning. User Interface: Good morning. Industrial Designer: Morning. Marketing: Good morning. Project Manager: Uh before I start with the with the meeting I have a few things to tell you about the the setting we're in, uh because we're uh being watched by uh Big Brother. So um <unk>disfmarker<unk> Marketing: By Big Brother? Project Manager: Yeah. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Yeah. Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Marketing: Okay. Project Manager: This uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> These are cameras, so are these. This thing uh that looks like a pie, Marketing: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: are actually all microphones. Marketing: Yeah. Okay. Project Manager: So you must be careful with uh with uh all this. And uh as I can see you uh you have placed your laptops uh exactly on the place where it must be. And that has to do with the camera settings, so we don't have our uh laptops in front of the cameras. Marketing: Of our faces. Project Manager: And <unk>disfmarker<unk> Indeed. So they can see our faces. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Okay. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: Welcome at the kick-off meeting. My name is uh Danny Wolfs. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Uh this is the agenda for today. Uh first a little opening. Uh I will introduce myself, uh and uh I think it's very uh good to introduce uh yourself. Uh then uh a little bit of acquaintance, acquaintance to uh to to ourselves. So uh we get to know each other. Uh that will be done uh with a tool training Question: What did Project Manager think about new remote control features proposed by Marketing? Answer:
Marketing put forward innovative ideas including using radio waves and bluetooth. In the proposal, some potential problems about high cost and being limited to marketing aspects had also been mentioned by Marketing. Based on this, PM agreed that those ideas could help the product to be special and competitive, but PM also pinpointed that such a product required strong support of high technology. Besides, being user-friendly should not be ignored.
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Text: User Interface: Hi. Industrial Designer: Hi. Project Manager: Hello. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Oh. Project Manager: Good morning. User Interface: Good morning. Industrial Designer: Morning. Marketing: Good morning. Project Manager: Uh before I start with the with the meeting I have a few things to tell you about the the setting we're in, uh because we're uh being watched by uh Big Brother. So um <unk>disfmarker<unk> Marketing: By Big Brother? Project Manager: Yeah. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Yeah. Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Marketing: Okay. Project Manager: This uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> These are cameras, so are these. This thing uh that looks like a pie, Marketing: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: are actually all microphones. Marketing: Yeah. Okay. Project Manager: So you must be careful with uh with uh all this. And uh as I can see you uh you have placed your laptops uh exactly on the place where it must be. And that has to do with the camera settings, so we don't have our uh laptops in front of the cameras. Marketing: Of our faces. Project Manager: And <unk>disfmarker<unk> Indeed. So they can see our faces. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Okay. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: Welcome at the kick-off meeting. My name is uh Danny Wolfs. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Uh this is the agenda for today. Uh first a little opening. Uh I will introduce myself, uh and uh I think it's very uh good to introduce uh yourself. Uh then uh a little bit of acquaintance, acquaintance to uh to to ourselves. So uh we get to know each other. Uh that will be done uh Question: What did Marketing recommend to do and why when discussing new useful features of the new remote control? Answer:
Marketing recommended developing a multi-purpose remote control because most of the remote controls on the market were made just for one purpose. Besides, Marketing suggested to use some other technology, such as radio waves and bluetooth, than infrared because it could be easily affected by obstacles. Thirdly, a nice added feature was to inform users of the coming programmes. Marketing conceived a high-tech remote control to be competitive among other products.
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Text: User Interface: Hi. Industrial Designer: Hi. Project Manager: Hello. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Oh. Project Manager: Good morning. User Interface: Good morning. Industrial Designer: Morning. Marketing: Good morning. Project Manager: Uh before I start with the with the meeting I have a few things to tell you about the the setting we're in, uh because we're uh being watched by uh Big Brother. So um <unk>disfmarker<unk> Marketing: By Big Brother? Project Manager: Yeah. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Yeah. Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Marketing: Okay. Project Manager: This uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> These are cameras, so are these. This thing uh that looks like a pie, Marketing: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: are actually all microphones. Marketing: Yeah. Okay. Project Manager: So you must be careful with uh with uh all this. And uh as I can see you uh you have placed your laptops uh exactly on the place where it must be. And that has to do with the camera settings, so we don't have our uh laptops in front of the cameras. Marketing: Of our faces. Project Manager: And <unk>disfmarker<unk> Indeed. So they can see our faces. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Okay. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: Welcome at the kick-off meeting. My name is uh Danny Wolfs. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Uh this is the agenda for today. Uh first a little opening. Uh I will introduce myself, uh and uh I think it's very uh good to introduce uh yourself. Uh then uh a little bit of acquaintance, acquaintance to uh to to ourselves. So uh we get to know each other. Uh that will be done uh with a tool training from the Question: What did the group plan to discuss for the next meeting? Answer:
Project Manager gave each team member different tasks. Project Manager asked Industrial Designer to look at the working design, User Interface to work on the technical functions and Marketing to be responsible for user requirements. User Interface recommended to achieve some agreement on whether to use the new remote control for multiple systems, and User Interface also asked whether to use a text screen or bluetooth. Besides, Project Manager also demanded that everyone in the group should individually ponder the most important thing in this project from their own perspective.
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Text: User Interface: Hi. Industrial Designer: Hi. Project Manager: Hello. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Oh. Project Manager: Good morning. User Interface: Good morning. Industrial Designer: Morning. Marketing: Good morning. Project Manager: Uh before I start with the with the meeting I have a few things to tell you about the the setting we're in, uh because we're uh being watched by uh Big Brother. So um <unk>disfmarker<unk> Marketing: By Big Brother? Project Manager: Yeah. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Yeah. Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Marketing: Okay. Project Manager: This uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> These are cameras, so are these. This thing uh that looks like a pie, Marketing: Mm-hmm. Project Manager: are actually all microphones. Marketing: Yeah. Okay. Project Manager: So you must be careful with uh with uh all this. And uh as I can see you uh you have placed your laptops uh exactly on the place where it must be. And that has to do with the camera settings, so we don't have our uh laptops in front of the cameras. Marketing: Of our faces. Project Manager: And <unk>disfmarker<unk> Indeed. So they can see our faces. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Okay. Marketing: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: Welcome at the kick-off meeting. My name is uh Danny Wolfs. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Uh this is the agenda for today. Uh first a little opening. Uh I will introduce myself, uh and uh I think it's very uh good to introduce uh yourself. Uh then uh a little bit of acquaintance, acquaintance to uh to to ourselves. So uh we get to know each other. Uh that will be done uh with a tool training from the he these two Question: Summarize the whole meeting. Answer:
Project Manager gave a brief introduction of the new remote control project for television sets. During team building, team members got to know each other by drawing their favorite animals with technical devices. When it came to the financial targets, Project Manager planned that the remote control would be priced at 25 Euros on the premise of the 12.5-Euro production cost, and the profit is targeted at 50 million Euros. The market range would be international. Then, ideas about new technical features of the remote control were proposed, such as radio waves and bluetooth, in order to distinguish the product from current ones. Finally, some general arrangements for the next meeting about user requirements and technical functions were made by Project Manager and each team member was required to think on the most important thing from their own point of view.
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Text: Grad C: Yeah, we had a long discussion about how much w how easy we want to make it for people to bleep things out. So <unk>disfmarker<unk> Morgan wants to make it hard. PhD D: It <unk>disfmarker<unk> it doesn't <unk>disfmarker<unk> Grad C: Did <unk>disfmarker<unk> did <unk>disfmarker<unk> did it <unk>disfmarker<unk>? I didn't even check yesterday whether it was moving. PhD D: It didn't move yesterday either when I started it. Grad C: So. PhD D: So I don't know if it doesn't like both of us <unk>disfmarker<unk> Grad C: Channel three? Channel three? PhD D: You know, I discovered something yesterday on these, um, wireless ones. Grad B: Channel two. Grad C: Mm - hmm? PhD D: You can tell if it's picking up <unk>pause<unk> breath noise and stuff. Grad C: Yeah, it has a little indicator on it <unk>disfmarker<unk> on the AF. PhD D: Mm - hmm. So if you <unk>disfmarker<unk> yeah, if you breathe under <unk>disfmarker<unk> breathe and then you see AF go off, then you know <unk>pause<unk> it's p picking up your mouth noise. PhD F: Oh, that's good. Cuz we have a lot of breath noises. Grad C: Yep. Test. PhD F: In fact, if you listen to just the channels of people not talking, it's like " @ @ ". It's very disgust Grad C: What? Did you see Hannibal recently or something? PhD F: Sorry. Exactly. It's very disconcerting. OK. So, um, Grad C: PhD F: I was gonna try to get out of here, like Question: Summarize the discussion about the current XML format to link up different components in data Answer:
C developed an XML format that links together utterances based on time tags, essentially creating a lattice. The XML format would be divided into many sections, each with its own ID and timeline tag. The XML format could be modified to deal with smaller linguistic units since that would only entail changing the timestamps. Despite being easy to use, the format was not efficient for smaller linguistic units, like phones. It would work for word units, at best.
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Text: Grad C: Yeah, we had a long discussion about how much w how easy we want to make it for people to bleep things out. So <unk>disfmarker<unk> Morgan wants to make it hard. PhD D: It <unk>disfmarker<unk> it doesn't <unk>disfmarker<unk> Grad C: Did <unk>disfmarker<unk> did <unk>disfmarker<unk> did it <unk>disfmarker<unk>? I didn't even check yesterday whether it was moving. PhD D: It didn't move yesterday either when I started it. Grad C: So. PhD D: So I don't know if it doesn't like both of us <unk>disfmarker<unk> Grad C: Channel three? Channel three? PhD D: You know, I discovered something yesterday on these, um, wireless ones. Grad B: Channel two. Grad C: Mm - hmm? PhD D: You can tell if it's picking up <unk>pause<unk> breath noise and stuff. Grad C: Yeah, it has a little indicator on it <unk>disfmarker<unk> on the AF. PhD D: Mm - hmm. So if you <unk>disfmarker<unk> yeah, if you breathe under <unk>disfmarker<unk> breathe and then you see AF go off, then you know <unk>pause<unk> it's p picking up your mouth noise. PhD F: Oh, that's good. Cuz we have a lot of breath noises. Grad C: Yep. Test. PhD F: In fact, if you listen to just the channels of people not talking, it's like " @ @ ". It's very disgust Grad C: What? Did you see Hannibal recently or something? PhD F: Sorry. Exactly. It's very disconcerting. OK. So, um, Grad C: PhD F: I was gonna try to get out of here, like Question: What did F think about the current XML format to link up different components in data? Answer:
F was concerned about how the time labels would adjust to smaller phonetic units. F inquired if the time boundaries could be changed by propagating new information throughout the XML. F thought that they could configure different XML files to deal with different units, but it would lead to large file sizes.
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Text: Grad C: Yeah, we had a long discussion about how much w how easy we want to make it for people to bleep things out. So <unk>disfmarker<unk> Morgan wants to make it hard. PhD D: It <unk>disfmarker<unk> it doesn't <unk>disfmarker<unk> Grad C: Did <unk>disfmarker<unk> did <unk>disfmarker<unk> did it <unk>disfmarker<unk>? I didn't even check yesterday whether it was moving. PhD D: It didn't move yesterday either when I started it. Grad C: So. PhD D: So I don't know if it doesn't like both of us <unk>disfmarker<unk> Grad C: Channel three? Channel three? PhD D: You know, I discovered something yesterday on these, um, wireless ones. Grad B: Channel two. Grad C: Mm - hmm? PhD D: You can tell if it's picking up <unk>pause<unk> breath noise and stuff. Grad C: Yeah, it has a little indicator on it <unk>disfmarker<unk> on the AF. PhD D: Mm - hmm. So if you <unk>disfmarker<unk> yeah, if you breathe under <unk>disfmarker<unk> breathe and then you see AF go off, then you know <unk>pause<unk> it's p picking up your mouth noise. PhD F: Oh, that's good. Cuz we have a lot of breath noises. Grad C: Yep. Test. PhD F: In fact, if you listen to just the channels of people not talking, it's like " @ @ ". It's very disgust Grad C: What? Did you see Hannibal recently or something? PhD F: Sorry. Exactly. It's very disconcerting. OK. So, um, Grad C: PhD F: I was gonna try to get out of here, like Question: What did A think about the current XML format to link up different components in data? Answer:
A had seen an example of this kind of XML format before. A thought that the time boundaries were nicely handled but believed that smaller linguistic units would drain too much memory. It was essentially like a lattice, in his opinion. Though, A did not seem too concerned with dealing with smaller linguistic units since the problem would not be encountered frequently.
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Text: Grad C: Yeah, we had a long discussion about how much w how easy we want to make it for people to bleep things out. So <unk>disfmarker<unk> Morgan wants to make it hard. PhD D: It <unk>disfmarker<unk> it doesn't <unk>disfmarker<unk> Grad C: Did <unk>disfmarker<unk> did <unk>disfmarker<unk> did it <unk>disfmarker<unk>? I didn't even check yesterday whether it was moving. PhD D: It didn't move yesterday either when I started it. Grad C: So. PhD D: So I don't know if it doesn't like both of us <unk>disfmarker<unk> Grad C: Channel three? Channel three? PhD D: You know, I discovered something yesterday on these, um, wireless ones. Grad B: Channel two. Grad C: Mm - hmm? PhD D: You can tell if it's picking up <unk>pause<unk> breath noise and stuff. Grad C: Yeah, it has a little indicator on it <unk>disfmarker<unk> on the AF. PhD D: Mm - hmm. So if you <unk>disfmarker<unk> yeah, if you breathe under <unk>disfmarker<unk> breathe and then you see AF go off, then you know <unk>pause<unk> it's p picking up your mouth noise. PhD F: Oh, that's good. Cuz we have a lot of breath noises. Grad C: Yep. Test. PhD F: In fact, if you listen to just the channels of people not talking, it's like " @ @ ". It's very disgust Grad C: What? Did you see Hannibal recently or something? PhD F: Sorry. Exactly. It's very disconcerting. OK. So, um, Grad C: PhD F: I was gonna try to get out of here, like, in half Question: Summarize the discussion about the disadvantages of ATLAS and other options Answer:
Since the team is familiar with Perl and a flat file format is easier, it was suggested that the cost of learning a new framework, like ATLAS, might be too high. It was suggested that ATLAS be used for the external file representation initially, and if it seems suitable, then it should be adopted in its entirety. P files were also discussed but the problem with them was that they could still get pretty big.
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Text: Grad C: Yeah, we had a long discussion about how much w how easy we want to make it for people to bleep things out. So <unk>disfmarker<unk> Morgan wants to make it hard. PhD D: It <unk>disfmarker<unk> it doesn't <unk>disfmarker<unk> Grad C: Did <unk>disfmarker<unk> did <unk>disfmarker<unk> did it <unk>disfmarker<unk>? I didn't even check yesterday whether it was moving. PhD D: It didn't move yesterday either when I started it. Grad C: So. PhD D: So I don't know if it doesn't like both of us <unk>disfmarker<unk> Grad C: Channel three? Channel three? PhD D: You know, I discovered something yesterday on these, um, wireless ones. Grad B: Channel two. Grad C: Mm - hmm? PhD D: You can tell if it's picking up <unk>pause<unk> breath noise and stuff. Grad C: Yeah, it has a little indicator on it <unk>disfmarker<unk> on the AF. PhD D: Mm - hmm. So if you <unk>disfmarker<unk> yeah, if you breathe under <unk>disfmarker<unk> breathe and then you see AF go off, then you know <unk>pause<unk> it's p picking up your mouth noise. PhD F: Oh, that's good. Cuz we have a lot of breath noises. Grad C: Yep. Test. PhD F: In fact, if you listen to just the channels of people not talking, it's like " @ @ ". It's very disgust Grad C: What? Did you see Hannibal recently or something? PhD F: Sorry. Exactly. It's very disconcerting. OK. So, um, Grad C: PhD F: I was gonna try to get out of here, like, in half Question: What did C think about the disadvantages of ATLAS and other options? Answer:
C thought that other options have a big learning curve, which should be taken into account, and that a flat format works well. A flat file format may not be fast, but everyone can handle it. C believed that quick and dirty solutions should be balanced with long-term infrastructural solutions. For instance, Perl can be paired with external representations of ATLAS files to create a working system. C also suggested that alternatives to P files might be interesting too, though the disadvantage would, once again, be the learning curve.
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Text: Grad C: Yeah, we had a long discussion about how much w how easy we want to make it for people to bleep things out. So <unk>disfmarker<unk> Morgan wants to make it hard. PhD D: It <unk>disfmarker<unk> it doesn't <unk>disfmarker<unk> Grad C: Did <unk>disfmarker<unk> did <unk>disfmarker<unk> did it <unk>disfmarker<unk>? I didn't even check yesterday whether it was moving. PhD D: It didn't move yesterday either when I started it. Grad C: So. PhD D: So I don't know if it doesn't like both of us <unk>disfmarker<unk> Grad C: Channel three? Channel three? PhD D: You know, I discovered something yesterday on these, um, wireless ones. Grad B: Channel two. Grad C: Mm - hmm? PhD D: You can tell if it's picking up <unk>pause<unk> breath noise and stuff. Grad C: Yeah, it has a little indicator on it <unk>disfmarker<unk> on the AF. PhD D: Mm - hmm. So if you <unk>disfmarker<unk> yeah, if you breathe under <unk>disfmarker<unk> breathe and then you see AF go off, then you know <unk>pause<unk> it's p picking up your mouth noise. PhD F: Oh, that's good. Cuz we have a lot of breath noises. Grad C: Yep. Test. PhD F: In fact, if you listen to just the channels of people not talking, it's like " @ @ ". It's very disgust Grad C: What? Did you see Hannibal recently or something? PhD F: Sorry. Exactly. It's very disconcerting. OK. So, um, Grad C: PhD F: I was gonna try to get out of here, like, in half Question: What did F think about the disadvantages of ATLAS and other options? Answer:
F wanted to ensure that prosodic features could be dealt with at the level of small linguistic units. F proposed that they be attached to the word or segment level with the option of extracting smaller units. This would allow the team to keep what they have without starting over.
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Text: Grad C: Yeah, we had a long discussion about how much w how easy we want to make it for people to bleep things out. So <unk>disfmarker<unk> Morgan wants to make it hard. PhD D: It <unk>disfmarker<unk> it doesn't <unk>disfmarker<unk> Grad C: Did <unk>disfmarker<unk> did <unk>disfmarker<unk> did it <unk>disfmarker<unk>? I didn't even check yesterday whether it was moving. PhD D: It didn't move yesterday either when I started it. Grad C: So. PhD D: So I don't know if it doesn't like both of us <unk>disfmarker<unk> Grad C: Channel three? Channel three? PhD D: You know, I discovered something yesterday on these, um, wireless ones. Grad B: Channel two. Grad C: Mm - hmm? PhD D: You can tell if it's picking up <unk>pause<unk> breath noise and stuff. Grad C: Yeah, it has a little indicator on it <unk>disfmarker<unk> on the AF. PhD D: Mm - hmm. So if you <unk>disfmarker<unk> yeah, if you breathe under <unk>disfmarker<unk> breathe and then you see AF go off, then you know <unk>pause<unk> it's p picking up your mouth noise. PhD F: Oh, that's good. Cuz we have a lot of breath noises. Grad C: Yep. Test. PhD F: In fact, if you listen to just the channels of people not talking, it's like " @ @ ". It's very disgust Grad C: What? Did you see Hannibal recently or something? PhD F: Sorry. Exactly. It's very disconcerting. OK. So, um, Grad C: PhD F: I was gonna try to get out of here, like, in half an hour, um, cuz Question: Summarize the whole meeting Answer:
Meeting participants wanted to agree upon a standard database to link up different components of the transcripts. The current idea was to use an XML script, but it quickly seemed that other options, like a pfile or ATLAS, are more suitable. The reason being that they would make it easier to deal with different linguistic units, like frames and utterances. Eventually, the team was skeptical of using something that would be hard to learn, like ATLAS. Nonetheless, they wanted to explore their options. The meeting finished with some discussion about handling annotations.
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Text: User Interface: <unk>gap<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> How do you wear this thing? Project Manager: Hmm. Mm mm mm. <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Not too many cables and stuff. Marketing: <unk>gap<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Original. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Is recorded? Okay? Okay so welcome everyone. So we are here for the kickoff meeting of uh the process of designing a new remote control. So I will first start with a warm welcome opening <unk>vocalsound<unk> stuff, User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: then uh we will uh see what will be uh our product and what will be the different step we will have to design it. And uh then we will uh discuss if we have few ideas and we will uh end uh by uh dispatching the different task you will be <unk>disfmarker<unk> you will have to fulfil to complete this process. So <unk>disfmarker<unk> User Interface: Uh. Just one thing. Uh, you said twenty-five minutes, but I have something else to do uh, so gotta have another meeting uh soon, Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: so maybe you could hurry up a bit <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> sorry? User Interface: It's true. I have another meeting so if you could uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: You have another meeting soon? User Interface: Yeah. Project Manager: So you have to be quick. Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Yeah, for the lawnmower project. Project Manager: Okay. User Interface: Okay. Project Manager: So the the goal is to have Question: Summarize the discussion of group warming and the introduction to the new remote control project. Answer:
Mutual greeting heralded the beginning of the meeting and the goal of the new remote control project was introduced by Project Manager to the conferees as to win over competitive products by being original, trendy and user-friendly. Then Project Manager continued with the introduction of the design process, which was divided into three main parts—functional design, conceptual design and desired design that respectively focused on the user-related technical functions, desirable user interface and different trends involved, and specific implementation and choice-detailing process of conceptual design.
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Text: User Interface: <unk>gap<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> How do you wear this thing? Project Manager: Hmm. Mm mm mm. <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Not too many cables and stuff. Marketing: <unk>gap<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Original. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Is recorded? Okay? Okay so welcome everyone. So we are here for the kickoff meeting of uh the process of designing a new remote control. So I will first start with a warm welcome opening <unk>vocalsound<unk> stuff, User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: then uh we will uh see what will be uh our product and what will be the different step we will have to design it. And uh then we will uh discuss if we have few ideas and we will uh end uh by uh dispatching the different task you will be <unk>disfmarker<unk> you will have to fulfil to complete this process. So <unk>disfmarker<unk> User Interface: Uh. Just one thing. Uh, you said twenty-five minutes, but I have something else to do uh, so gotta have another meeting uh soon, Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: so maybe you could hurry up a bit <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> sorry? User Interface: It's true. I have another meeting so if you could uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: You have another meeting soon? User Interface: Yeah. Project Manager: So you have to be quick. Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Yeah, for the lawnmower project. Project Manager: Okay. User Interface: Okay. Project Manager: So the the goal is to have a Question: What did Project Manager recommend to do after introducing the design steps and why? Answer:
Project Manager recommended a drawing activity of conferees’ favourite animals with the aim of inspiring and contributing to the design process of the remote control.
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Text: User Interface: <unk>gap<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> How do you wear this thing? Project Manager: Hmm. Mm mm mm. <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Not too many cables and stuff. Marketing: <unk>gap<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Original. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Is recorded? Okay? Okay so welcome everyone. So we are here for the kickoff meeting of uh the process of designing a new remote control. So I will first start with a warm welcome opening <unk>vocalsound<unk> stuff, User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: then uh we will uh see what will be uh our product and what will be the different step we will have to design it. And uh then we will uh discuss if we have few ideas and we will uh end uh by uh dispatching the different task you will be <unk>disfmarker<unk> you will have to fulfil to complete this process. So <unk>disfmarker<unk> User Interface: Uh. Just one thing. Uh, you said twenty-five minutes, but I have something else to do uh, so gotta have another meeting uh soon, Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: so maybe you could hurry up a bit <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> sorry? User Interface: It's true. I have another meeting so if you could uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: You have another meeting soon? User Interface: Yeah. Project Manager: So you have to be quick. Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Yeah, for the lawnmower project. Project Manager: Okay. User Interface: Okay. Project Manager: So the the goal is to have a remote Question: Summarize the discussion of specific designing requirements of the new remote control. Answer:
Given the customer demand and conferees personal experiences, several designing requirements were proposed during the discussion. The remote control was decided to be adaptable to multiple devices with few buttons, be able to be lighted in the dark and held in hand, and be both water-proof and shock-proof along with a whistle tracking system, based on which advantage over competitors might well be gained at the price of a rising production cost.
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Text: User Interface: <unk>gap<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> How do you wear this thing? Project Manager: Hmm. Mm mm mm. <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Not too many cables and stuff. Marketing: <unk>gap<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Original. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Is recorded? Okay? Okay so welcome everyone. So we are here for the kickoff meeting of uh the process of designing a new remote control. So I will first start with a warm welcome opening <unk>vocalsound<unk> stuff, User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: then uh we will uh see what will be uh our product and what will be the different step we will have to design it. And uh then we will uh discuss if we have few ideas and we will uh end uh by uh dispatching the different task you will be <unk>disfmarker<unk> you will have to fulfil to complete this process. So <unk>disfmarker<unk> User Interface: Uh. Just one thing. Uh, you said twenty-five minutes, but I have something else to do uh, so gotta have another meeting uh soon, Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: so maybe you could hurry up a bit <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> sorry? User Interface: It's true. I have another meeting so if you could uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: You have another meeting soon? User Interface: Yeah. Project Manager: So you have to be quick. Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Yeah, for the lawnmower project. Project Manager: Okay. User Interface: Okay. Project Manager: So Question: What did Project Manager’s think of the water-proof design when discussing the designing requirements of the new remote control? Answer:
Considering the product originality, Project Manager believed that a water-proof remote control could be used in the bath conveniently while saving the customer’s need to purchase an extra plastic cover. Therefore, originality and competitiveness might be gained over competitive products.
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Text: User Interface: <unk>gap<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> How do you wear this thing? Project Manager: Hmm. Mm mm mm. <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Not too many cables and stuff. Marketing: <unk>gap<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Original. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Is recorded? Okay? Okay so welcome everyone. So we are here for the kickoff meeting of uh the process of designing a new remote control. So I will first start with a warm welcome opening <unk>vocalsound<unk> stuff, User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: then uh we will uh see what will be uh our product and what will be the different step we will have to design it. And uh then we will uh discuss if we have few ideas and we will uh end uh by uh dispatching the different task you will be <unk>disfmarker<unk> you will have to fulfil to complete this process. So <unk>disfmarker<unk> User Interface: Uh. Just one thing. Uh, you said twenty-five minutes, but I have something else to do uh, so gotta have another meeting uh soon, Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: so maybe you could hurry up a bit <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> sorry? User Interface: It's true. I have another meeting so if you could uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: You have another meeting soon? User Interface: Yeah. Project Manager: So you have to be quick. Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Yeah, for the lawnmower project. Project Manager: Okay. User Interface Question: What did the conferees think of the solution to water-proof and shock-proof technical demands when discussing the designing requirements of the new remote control? Answer:
Conferees agreed that the remote control could be sold with optional plastic protection and water-proof box for customers to choose.
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Text: User Interface: <unk>gap<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> How do you wear this thing? Project Manager: Hmm. Mm mm mm. <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Not too many cables and stuff. Marketing: <unk>gap<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Original. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Is recorded? Okay? Okay so welcome everyone. So we are here for the kickoff meeting of uh the process of designing a new remote control. So I will first start with a warm welcome opening <unk>vocalsound<unk> stuff, User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: then uh we will uh see what will be uh our product and what will be the different step we will have to design it. And uh then we will uh discuss if we have few ideas and we will uh end uh by uh dispatching the different task you will be <unk>disfmarker<unk> you will have to fulfil to complete this process. So <unk>disfmarker<unk> User Interface: Uh. Just one thing. Uh, you said twenty-five minutes, but I have something else to do uh, so gotta have another meeting uh soon, Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: so maybe you could hurry up a bit <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> sorry? User Interface: It's true. I have another meeting so if you could uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: You have another meeting soon? User Interface: Yeah. Project Manager: So you have to be quick. Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Yeah, for the lawnmower project. Project Manager: Okay. User Interface: Okay. Project Manager: So Question: What did Industrial Designer and Project Manager think of the remote tracking method when discussing the designing requirements of the new remote control? Answer:
Industrial Designer first recommended adding a special beeping button on the TV set to remind users of where the remote controls were, but the plan was deemed impractical concerning TV sets that were not designed by them. Then Project Manager suggested whistle tracking and was approved by all the conferees as an original improvement.
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Text: User Interface: <unk>gap<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> How do you wear this thing? Project Manager: Hmm. Mm mm mm. <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Not too many cables and stuff. Marketing: <unk>gap<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Original. <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Is recorded? Okay? Okay so welcome everyone. So we are here for the kickoff meeting of uh the process of designing a new remote control. So I will first start with a warm welcome opening <unk>vocalsound<unk> stuff, User Interface: <unk>vocalsound<unk> Project Manager: then uh we will uh see what will be uh our product and what will be the different step we will have to design it. And uh then we will uh discuss if we have few ideas and we will uh end uh by uh dispatching the different task you will be <unk>disfmarker<unk> you will have to fulfil to complete this process. So <unk>disfmarker<unk> User Interface: Uh. Just one thing. Uh, you said twenty-five minutes, but I have something else to do uh, so gotta have another meeting uh soon, Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: so maybe you could hurry up a bit <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: <unk>vocalsound<unk> sorry? User Interface: It's true. I have another meeting so if you could uh <unk>disfmarker<unk> Project Manager: You have another meeting soon? User Interface: Yeah. Project Manager: So you have to be quick. Industrial Designer: <unk>vocalsound<unk> User Interface: Yeah, for the lawnmower project. Project Manager: Okay. User Interface: Okay. Project Manager: So the the goal is to have a remote control so to have an advantage over our Question: Summarize the whole meeting. Answer:
This meeting was primarily concerned with the design process and specific designing requirements of the remote control. Project Manager first introduced the goal of the new remote control project as to be original, trendy and user-friendly so as to bear an advantage over competitive products. Then three steps of the design process were respectively introduced and explained by Project Manager, and drawings of favourite animals then followed as an imagination-inspiring activity. According to Project Manager, the fifty-million-Euro financial objective of the project would be achieved at a production cost lower than 12.5 Euros and a twofold selling price. Competitiveness-endowing requirements for remote control design were then proposed and carefully discussed.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received no apologies for absence this morning. Can I ask if there are any declarations of interest from Members, please? No. Okay. Thank you. Item 3 this morning then is a scrutiny session on early childhood education and care, and I'm very pleased to welcome Julie Morgan AM, Deputy Minister for Health and Social Services; Jo-anne Daniels, director of communities and tackling poverty at Welsh Government; and Nicola Edwards, deputy director of the childcare, play and early years division in Welsh Government. Thank you all for your attendance. We’re very much looking forward to the session. If you're happy, we'll go straight into questions, and the first ones are from Hefin David. Hefin David AM: Good morning, Deputy Minister. What are your primary objectives? Is it supporting the development of children or getting parents into work? Julie Morgan AM: Well, I think you'll be aware from the range of programmes that we've got that we do feel it’s important to support both children and parents. There's obviously lots of evidence to show how important the early years are for children, how important they are for their development, and so, that is one of our primary objectives. But we also know how important it is for parents to have stable jobs, reasonably paid, so that can also help with the development of the children. So, we really see it that our plans are for both parents and children, and we believe that a high-quality, early-childhood education and care system can provide that. And, of course, in terms of when we talk about jobs as well, I think it’s really important to remember that the childcare system is a big employer as well and a very important employer. So that, actually, itself provides jobs. Hefin David AM: So, the evidence we've seen suggests that, historically, Governments in the UK and devolved have focused on primarily getting parents into work. So, are you suggesting then that your focus is to change that and move towards early child development? Julie Morgan AM: No, what I'm saying is that we want to give parents the Question: What did the group discuss about differences of care provision in different parts of Wales? Answer:
Julie Morgan insisted that they were aware that different local authorities actually had adopted different patterns of providing early education. And with the Flying Start programme being geographically targeted, with the education being determined by the local authorities, they knew that there was a variance throughout Wales. Then they would like to see facilities developed in each local authority throughout Wales that would answer the needs of the families and the children in those areas. And It was demand-led and universally available to all parents who meet the eligibility criteria of working, so they believed the programme should be available to everybody.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received no apologies for absence this morning. Can I ask if there are any declarations of interest from Members, please? No. Okay. Thank you. Item 3 this morning then is a scrutiny session on early childhood education and care, and I'm very pleased to welcome Julie Morgan AM, Deputy Minister for Health and Social Services; Jo-anne Daniels, director of communities and tackling poverty at Welsh Government; and Nicola Edwards, deputy director of the childcare, play and early years division in Welsh Government. Thank you all for your attendance. We’re very much looking forward to the session. If you're happy, we'll go straight into questions, and the first ones are from Hefin David. Hefin David AM: Good morning, Deputy Minister. What are your primary objectives? Is it supporting the development of children or getting parents into work? Julie Morgan AM: Well, I think you'll be aware from the range of programmes that we've got that we do feel it’s important to support both children and parents. There's obviously lots of evidence to show how important the early years are for children, how important they are for their development, and so, that is one of our primary objectives. But we also know how important it is for parents to have stable jobs, reasonably paid, so that can also help with the development of the children. So, we really see it that our plans are for both parents and children, and we believe that a high-quality, early-childhood education and care system can provide that. And, of course, in terms of when we talk about jobs as well, I think it’s really important to remember that the childcare system is a big employer as well and a very important employer. So that, actually, itself provides jobs. Hefin David AM: So, the evidence we've seen suggests that, historically, Governments in the UK and devolved have focused on primarily getting parents into work. So, are you suggesting then that your focus is to change that and move towards early child development? Julie Morgan AM: No, what I' Question: What did Janet Finch-Saunders think of childcare when discussing differences of care provision in different parts of Wales? Answer:
The Welsh and UK Governments had followed a demand-driven approach to the childcare market, with subsidies mainly given to working parents, which was a mistake and should be more universally available. The demand-driven approach was based more on certain factors: geographic spread in terms of it being more universal, and whether that's the right way. It was hard for children to mix with peers from different backgrounds and age groups? Next, some areas had traditionally got more childcare anyway because they had traditionally more demand in those areas, so there was not a level playing field to start from.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received no apologies for absence this morning. Can I ask if there are any declarations of interest from Members, please? No. Okay. Thank you. Item 3 this morning then is a scrutiny session on early childhood education and care, and I'm very pleased to welcome Julie Morgan AM, Deputy Minister for Health and Social Services; Jo-anne Daniels, director of communities and tackling poverty at Welsh Government; and Nicola Edwards, deputy director of the childcare, play and early years division in Welsh Government. Thank you all for your attendance. We’re very much looking forward to the session. If you're happy, we'll go straight into questions, and the first ones are from Hefin David. Hefin David AM: Good morning, Deputy Minister. What are your primary objectives? Is it supporting the development of children or getting parents into work? Julie Morgan AM: Well, I think you'll be aware from the range of programmes that we've got that we do feel it’s important to support both children and parents. There's obviously lots of evidence to show how important the early years are for children, how important they are for their development, and so, that is one of our primary objectives. But we also know how important it is for parents to have stable jobs, reasonably paid, so that can also help with the development of the children. So, we really see it that our plans are for both parents and children, and we believe that a high-quality, early-childhood education and care system can provide that. And, of course, in terms of when we talk about jobs as well, I think it’s really important to remember that the childcare system is a big employer as well and a very important employer. So that, actually, itself provides jobs. Hefin David AM: So, the evidence we've seen suggests that, historically, Governments in the UK and devolved have focused on primarily getting parents into work. So, are you suggesting then that your focus is to change that and move towards early child development? Julie Morgan AM: No, what I'm saying is that we want to Question: What's the conclusion of the discussion about differences of care provision in different parts of Wales? Answer:
The team was aware that different local authorities actually had adopted different patterns of providing early education. And with the Flying Start programme being geographically targeted, with the education being determined by the local authorities, they knew that there was a variance throughout Wales. Next some of their care provision was universally available in certain areas. Then historically, that was definitely true, and they were certainly planning to expand it, developing a more integrated approach towards the early years. Finally they had got the system of inspection to ensure that.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received no apologies for absence this morning. Can I ask if there are any declarations of interest from Members, please? No. Okay. Thank you. Item 3 this morning then is a scrutiny session on early childhood education and care, and I'm very pleased to welcome Julie Morgan AM, Deputy Minister for Health and Social Services; Jo-anne Daniels, director of communities and tackling poverty at Welsh Government; and Nicola Edwards, deputy director of the childcare, play and early years division in Welsh Government. Thank you all for your attendance. We’re very much looking forward to the session. If you're happy, we'll go straight into questions, and the first ones are from Hefin David. Hefin David AM: Good morning, Deputy Minister. What are your primary objectives? Is it supporting the development of children or getting parents into work? Julie Morgan AM: Well, I think you'll be aware from the range of programmes that we've got that we do feel it’s important to support both children and parents. There's obviously lots of evidence to show how important the early years are for children, how important they are for their development, and so, that is one of our primary objectives. But we also know how important it is for parents to have stable jobs, reasonably paid, so that can also help with the development of the children. So, we really see it that our plans are for both parents and children, and we believe that a high-quality, early-childhood education and care system can provide that. And, of course, in terms of when we talk about jobs as well, I think it’s really important to remember that the childcare system is a big employer as well and a very important employer. So that, actually, itself provides jobs. Hefin David AM: So, the evidence we've seen suggests that, historically, Governments in the UK and devolved have focused on primarily getting parents into work. So, are you suggesting then that your focus is to change that and move towards early child development? Julie Morgan AM: No, what I'm saying is that we want to give parents the opportunity Question: Summarize the discussion about the demand-driven approach in the programme. Answer:
Janet Finch-Saunders believed that the Welsh and UK Governments had followed a demand-driven approach to the childcare market, with subsidies mainly given to working parents, so there was not a level playing field to start from. However, Julie Morgan insisted that some of their provision was universally available in certain areas. Hence historically that was definitely true of the programme. Then they were certainly planning to expand the programme, which is believed to be a demand-led approach. Last they were managing it within the normal budgetary process, developing a more integrated approach towards the early years, and had got the system of inspection to ensure that.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received no apologies for absence this morning. Can I ask if there are any declarations of interest from Members, please? No. Okay. Thank you. Item 3 this morning then is a scrutiny session on early childhood education and care, and I'm very pleased to welcome Julie Morgan AM, Deputy Minister for Health and Social Services; Jo-anne Daniels, director of communities and tackling poverty at Welsh Government; and Nicola Edwards, deputy director of the childcare, play and early years division in Welsh Government. Thank you all for your attendance. We’re very much looking forward to the session. If you're happy, we'll go straight into questions, and the first ones are from Hefin David. Hefin David AM: Good morning, Deputy Minister. What are your primary objectives? Is it supporting the development of children or getting parents into work? Julie Morgan AM: Well, I think you'll be aware from the range of programmes that we've got that we do feel it’s important to support both children and parents. There's obviously lots of evidence to show how important the early years are for children, how important they are for their development, and so, that is one of our primary objectives. But we also know how important it is for parents to have stable jobs, reasonably paid, so that can also help with the development of the children. So, we really see it that our plans are for both parents and children, and we believe that a high-quality, early-childhood education and care system can provide that. And, of course, in terms of when we talk about jobs as well, I think it’s really important to remember that the childcare system is a big employer as well and a very important employer. So that, actually, itself provides jobs. Hefin David AM: So, the evidence we've seen suggests that, historically, Governments in the UK and devolved have focused on primarily getting parents into work. So, are you suggesting then that your focus is to change that and move towards early child development? Julie Morgan AM: No, what I'm saying is that we want to give Question: What's the decision of the discussion about the demand-driven approach in the programme? Answer:
Julie Morgan insisted that some of their provision was universally available in certain areas. Hence historically that was definitely true of the programme. Then they were certainly planning to expand the programme, which is believed to be a demand-led approach. Last they were managing it within the normal budgetary process, developing a more integrated approach towards the early years, and had got the system of inspection to ensure that.
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Text: Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We've received no apologies for absence this morning. Can I ask if there are any declarations of interest from Members, please? No. Okay. Thank you. Item 3 this morning then is a scrutiny session on early childhood education and care, and I'm very pleased to welcome Julie Morgan AM, Deputy Minister for Health and Social Services; Jo-anne Daniels, director of communities and tackling poverty at Welsh Government; and Nicola Edwards, deputy director of the childcare, play and early years division in Welsh Government. Thank you all for your attendance. We’re very much looking forward to the session. If you're happy, we'll go straight into questions, and the first ones are from Hefin David. Hefin David AM: Good morning, Deputy Minister. What are your primary objectives? Is it supporting the development of children or getting parents into work? Julie Morgan AM: Well, I think you'll be aware from the range of programmes that we've got that we do feel it’s important to support both children and parents. There's obviously lots of evidence to show how important the early years are for children, how important they are for their development, and so, that is one of our primary objectives. But we also know how important it is for parents to have stable jobs, reasonably paid, so that can also help with the development of the children. So, we really see it that our plans are for both parents and children, and we believe that a high-quality, early-childhood education and care system can provide that. And, of course, in terms of when we talk about jobs as well, I think it’s really important to remember that the childcare system is a big employer as well and a very important employer. So that, actually, itself provides jobs. Hefin David AM: So, the evidence we've seen suggests that, historically, Governments in the UK and devolved have focused on primarily getting parents into work. So, are you suggesting then that your focus is to change that and move towards early child development? Julie Morgan AM: No, what I'm saying is that we want Question: What did Julie Morgan recommend to do when discussing the demand-driven approach in the programme and why? Answer:
Julie Morgan certainly plans to expand the programme, which is believed to be a demand-led approach. Last they were managing it within the normal budgetary process, developing a more integrated approach towards the early years, and had got the system of inspection to ensure that. Because some of their provision was universally available in certain areas. Hence historically that was definitely true of the programme.

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