Butler Board Button
Asked by Damian Perez:

Hi Guys, looks like butler button has a limit of 10 actions.

This can be upgraded with a paid version ?

See attach

thnx

damian![Captura de Pantalla 2020-07-20 a la(s) 15.12.24.png](https://community.atlassian.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/103725i954A4D31C4629CE6/image-size/large?v=v2&px=999 "Captura de Pantalla 2020-07-20 a la(s) 15.12.24.png")


Answers:
author: Vongsawat
body: Doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere, but I've gone up against the 10 command limit before on a Free account with the native Butler.  

On Gold, I've gone up to 15 commands as a test, but the limit is probably higher?  

I think some of the limitations of the old Butlerbot that [@Esme Crutchley](/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3555478) linked are still in play. As I've bumped up against some limit that just said the the command run was running "too long" and terminated with no other explanation. It was particularly heavy on Find and Look-up commands going back-and-forth multiple times to do some logic shenanigans as well as a For Each, so somewhat understandable.  

No idea if there's just a simple difference between free/paid limits, or if its some tiered limits. And no concrete information on the actual limits either.

comments: author: Esme Crutchley
body: I agree, there's very little information on the Butler-bot limits, probably because it's gradually being replaced by Butler, but Butler has [published limits](https://help.trello.com/article/1181-butler-features-and-quotas):

![Screenshot 2020-07-21 at 06.41.41.png](https://community.atlassian.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/103767iED307E329E01C70C/image-size/large?v=v2&px=999 "Screenshot 2020-07-21 at 06.41.41.png")

*Personal = Gold*


author: Vongsawat
body: Yes, but just no published limits for the command runs themselves in Butler, which is what it's up against here


author: Esme Crutchley
body: I agree.

According to that page free has 50 command runs and 500 operations, but there doesn't seem to be information on how many operations/actions a single command run can have.

But as you say, you've tried with 1 command and 15 operations without a problem, so it's likely that the number of operations a command can have, have higher limits than in Butler bot.


author: Vongsawat
body: Free accounts will lock up at 10 commands per run just like butlerbot, but yea, no idea if the higher limits will mirror butlerbot as well or not


author: Damian Perez
body: sorry, i couldnt see difference between butler and butler-boot. i only have butler button. can u clarify this to me ?

Thnx


author: Esme Crutchley
body: I'm going to tag in [@Iain Dooley](/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1416112) here because he's got experience of using Butler Bot as well as the new Butler and he might be able to explain (I've only ever used the 'new' Butler)


author: Vongsawat
body: Don't be confused by the use of the old butlerbot icon [@Esme Crutchley](/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3555478) This is definitely the native /new Butler!

Its the screen you get if you hit Details at the bottom of the screen while a Butler command is actively running.


author: Iain Dooley
body: [@Esme Crutchley](/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3555478) the bot didn't have board/card buttons, those came with the power up which is what the integrated Butler is


author: Esme Crutchley
body: Hi [@Damian Perez](/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4007378)

It looks like you're using Butlerbot, which does have a limit of 10 for free accounts:

![Screenshot 2020-07-20 at 20.15.26.png](https://community.atlassian.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/103730iBC39CAE73875A0BE/image-size/large?v=v2&px=999 "Screenshot 2020-07-20 at 20.15.26.png")I found the info here: [Butler Limits](https://trello.com/c/aBHedsyL/75-limits#:~:text=This%20limit%20also%20applies%20to,moves%20counts%20as%20an%20operation.)

The 'new' Bulter doesn't have any information on how many commands it can run at once, which is a shame: [Butler features and quotas](https://help.trello.com/article/1181-butler-features-and-quotas). It says that you can have 50 command runs and 200 operations, but doesn't say (that I can see) if there is a limit on the number of actions a single command can take.

Don't know if that's helpful at all?

Esme :)