Simplify the following text for a Grade 4 native English-speaking person.
Original: Overweight is defined as a BMI of 25 or more , thus it includes pre-obesity defined as a BMI between 25 and 30 and obesity as defined by a BMI of 30 or more . Pre obese and overweight however are often used interchangeably thus giving overweight a common definition of a BMI of between 25 -30 .
Simplified: People with a BMI of 25 or more are said to be overweight .