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[Thunderbolt Android Development] gadsden:
Hey all, I used this method to root my TB back in march. Now, I nee to unroot, and I'm not sure where to even begin. There are so many new methods and updated roots that I don't know which one is safe to use. Can someone point me to the right place to get instructions to unroot from this method?

Add: when I say "this method", I mean the original method in this post from march
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Vaporsilver:
Anyone having trouble with flashing the ZIP they link you to? Their recovery keeps telling me the file is bad and can't flash.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
are you refering to the superuser.zip?

ive not actually flashed it... but its worked fine for lots of folks. id try redownloading it.

ive personally always used this one when rooting unrooted roms in recovery: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=886999
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Rav20:
ok i seem to have gotten stuck in the rooting/ getting CWM on the TB

i got the Revolutionary screen with s-off but i cant seem to get to recovery at all the up/down keys wont select anything other than Hboot (i did let it update for the Hboot i time which wiped the phone to stock) phone boots normally i just cant seem to get superuser on the phone nor can i get CWM

any help

thanks
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
make sure there are no PG05IMG files on your sd card. power on into hboot via power/vol down. now... wait. be patient,it takes a few sceonds for the phone to check for PG05IMG files and not find any. once you see the green writing flash,then disapear,you can use the volume rocker and power button to select recovery.

assuming you let revolutionary flash clockwork,you will be taken to it,then you can flash the superuser file you downloaded and previously placed on the root of your SD card. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Rav20:
ok yeah i think thats whats causing the problem i think there is an old PG05img on the SD card ill try that later thanks for the help
[Thunderbolt Android Development] amagnatta:
I'll be rooting my buddy's TB and only have access to MacOSX. Assuming revolutionary option is for PC/Linux (only options I see on site). Just wanted to confirm or see if anyone had seen a quicker version for Macs. Thanks in advance!

Sent from my PC36100
[Thunderbolt Android Development] hallstevenson:
They must have a) little to no interest from other Mac users, especially ones with 100% no access (really?) or b) no colleague on their team with a Mac.

I suspect it would be easily ported too since it's not a graphical app. The differences between BSD and Linux aren't that great.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
i personally would just use a PC. you cant tell me every one you know with a computer,that they are all macs. both the tool and the drivers are small files,easily removed after. you could use a borrowed laptop or go to someones house and use their desktop easily.

with any kind of high speed the downloads are fast,and the program finishes literally in minutes.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] spigatelli:
I used this Revolutionary method to root, but I have to go back to stock to return the phone. The un-root method here takes care of everything except the bootloader. Does anyone have the correct bootloader file?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
youll need to enter a couple fastboot commands to overwrite the permanent patch hboot. nothing you flash in hboot is going to get rid of it :eek:

i have a "how to unroot" guide here:

http://androidforums.com/thunderbolt-all-things-root/402115-thunderbolt-rooting-methods-updated.html
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FrameCityJackal:
Man XDA is great. Getting my thunderbolt Monday or Tuesday and I will root this baby as soon as I get it lol

Also just making sure unlocked bootloader does NOT destroy 4G correct? My photon's 4G gets killed once the BL is unlocked
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
that doesnt make sense. the bootloader doesnt have any affect on RIL or the function of the radio.

rooting with revolutionary and installing an s-off hboot,and even a custom recovery and rooting has no affect on 4g.

only thing that might is if you flash radios that less efficient,and/or flash roms that are "under development",in wich case going back to good radios and/or flashing back to a rom with working 4g :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] hallstevenson:
The bootloader, radio (4G), and ROM are effectively separate pieces.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FrameCityJackal:
Whenever we unlock our bootloader on the photon it breaks 4G. Remember though Sprint doesn't have LTE so no sim card for the 4G. No one can figure why it breaks 4G. If any of you guys want to look into it that would be great.

This is good now so I can unlock my bootloader on the photon and use better roms and use my thunderbolt to stream and download stuff :p

Sent from my MB855
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
yes. but the rom must have code to use lte,and there must be a functional RIL,so the rom and ril will affect working 4g.

i dunno anythign about the photon(and nor do i care to ;))so if you say your unlock process somehow damages the ability of the phone to utilize 4g ill take your word for it.

sounds like a good reason to me to stick with htc devices :p

i can tell you for sure that unlocking the booloader on the thunderbolt(and every other htc devices i know of) does not affect its ability to use LTE :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tevil:
new to thunderbolts/rooting my brother (i have a nexus s)

I have a nexus s and it was easy peezy to root. The thunderbolt looks a little more involving but nothing I cant figure out. On the other hand My brothers phone has all the latest OTA updates and I wasnt sure if the root methods were capable of overwriting the latest HTC lockdowns.

Does anyone know if its safe to root? Thanks

Been reading around since last night and I dont see any numbers anywhere but just wanted to be sure before I possibly brick his phone.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
you did see in the first post the revolutionary,right?

the manual method was left in place for kicks,you dont need to use that now. revolutionary is safe,and extremely easy.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tevil:
yes I saw the revolutionary method but didnt see if it was safe for all updates (though I was exuasted last night and this morning I had to be up extra early so that not saying I didnt look right at and past it).

I dont have a thunderbolt and my other buddy who does have a rooted one (I helped him root that one) said the latest updates locked everything down to the point of brickage.

Thanks for the fast reply. Im sure my brother will be happy to know its a go.

thanks
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
yup,good to go. your buddy is partially right,the GB updte patches the temp exploit needed to rewrite the misc image for manual root,but revolutionary uses a really sneeky hboot exploit to replace the factory hboot with their permanent patched one,wich is almost as good as a radio s-off. 1.04.0000 is the current bootloader,and the 1.05.0000 is in the GB update. ive used revolutionary to root both.

the permanent hboot offers a huge advantage in blocking hboot flashes in hboot,fastboot(unless an "unlock" command is entered first),and OTA so youre almost gauranteed to remain rooted.

of course it has one disadvantage of being a lil trickier to return to stock if you should need to do so for warranty.

theres a video and unroot guide here :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
see your other post. start a new thread in a different forum. dont just keep tacking your question on to differrent threads here.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Trigster:
*decided to actually read more into it*
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
did you read everything on revolutionarys site?

-run revolutionary

-allow revolutionary to install clockwork

-flash superuser in clockwork.

revolutionary is an s-off/recovery tool,it doesnt root your phone.

if you didnt have revolutionary install clockwork you can either:

1)run it again. it will detect your s-off and ask if you want to install

2)install clockwork thru hboot

superuser download is on revolutionarys site as well(scroll down to "does revolutionary give me root" ;))
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Trigster:
Thanks for the reply :)

First time ever really playing into the Boot menu and such. Coming from a Droid 1 where its all "super-one-click" for rooting, lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Trigster:
So on a note here. Since I rooted after getting 2.3, and since then Verizon has stopped the OTA. I presume there will be another OTA in a few days-weeks-months, whichever!

Will I need to do anything prior to installing the OTA? Like remove SU or undo revoked?

Just trying to prepare myself a little for what I need to do, to keep my root or hopefully prevent my phone from bricking if it does the OTA over the night.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
if you installed a custom recovery,you cannot accept the OTA. all youll need to do is re-install the stock recovery thru hboot. if youre on a 2.3 rom,i dont have a stock recovery uploaded for you yet. give me a day or 2. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Trigster:
So will this would wipe the data an I would be running fresh for the latest OTA correct?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
Installing a stock recovery should not wipe any data,and nor should accepting an ota.

What firmware are you on? The only gb that may get an ota is 2.11.605.3. I'm not sure if it will or wont. I'd think that it would,since some phones have legitemately received it ota.

All older leaks will not get any otas. You're best bet for reciecing it is to go back to mr2.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Trigster:
I'm running whichever was just pushed on this week.

2.11.605.3 is what the phone shows.

On a side note, I do notice running root and using SetCPU my battery-life has gone up quite a bit.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mahalocat:
Little Help Please -

Trying to acheive S-off on a co-workers T-bolt.

I have used Revolutionary on my evo3d and wifes evo4g.

Debugging is on - Phone set to charge only - installed Drivers - No htc Syn installed.....

BUT....hanging at "waiting for device"....what am i forgetting?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FrameCityJackal:
go here http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary download the htc drivers file install and there ya go bubb.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
i downloaded revolutionarys drivers,let the wizard install them,and they worked.

if that doesnt work,put the driver file somewhere you can find it easily. put the phone plug the phone in and go to device manager. find the phone,right click and update drivers. tell it to use the file you downloaded. :)

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sorry,i had kinda forgot about you :o im downloading the lates GB ota/leak now,do you still need a stock recovery?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaskwith:
Revolutionary isn't working for me. Says invalid BETA key....so I tried to donate, thinking that must be the deal, donate and your key becomes valid. The link it sends me to won't let me donate. Anyone?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
i didnt donate and it worked fine for me.

the common issues are:

-entered serial number or hboot incorrectly

-typed the beta key in incorrectly

-having htc sync installed seems to eff things up :eek:

one person with that issue said they had to delete every driver and anything else to do with htc devices to get it to work. they made 2 or 3 different keys before finally figuring it out. if you have any access to a PC thats never had any htc software or drivers installed,try running it there.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jaskwith:
I got it working, I don't know how... it just worked after like the 50th time trying it..so now im just trying to figure out all the other nuiances of rooting the TB.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
not much else to it. :)

-run revolutionary and get s-off,and optionally install clockwork recovery

-install a custom recovery(CW,TWRPor Amon_Ra),if you didnt allow it to happen above

-flash superuser in recovery.

get superuser on revolutionarys website,or use this one:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=886999
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CYRAXDroid:
ok so where do I start for rooting the thunderbolt then?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
click the "revolutionary" link on the first post ;)

if you need more info than that,theres a video here on AF

there is also a generic "root your device with revolutionary" video on "theunlockr.com" tho i dont have a link for that at the moment.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Amin Sabet:
Like a dumbass, I indicated that I had hboot v1.05 when I signed up for the revolutionary download, but my actual hboot version was 1.04. It seemed to work fine anyway - I am unlocked with s-off and rooted.

Have I done any harm by indicating the wrong hboot version? Is there anything I need to do right now?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
if your phone is s-off,and currently boots into a working OS,then no,you are fine. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] flooritnfly:
Umm.....did the Revolutionary and have S-OFF but it didn't flash ClockworkMod Recovery....tried twice.

Now it's just looping and won't get off the "HTC Quietly Brilliant" screen.

WTF??? :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
do you get an error when it tries to flash clockwork? are you sure its not there or are you getting the ! and triangle when selecting recovery in hboot?

if its really not there,there is an hboot flashable clockwork here if you search for it,as well as TWRP recoveries.

flash one of those recoveries,then flash a rom. there are rooted stock roms you can flash if you want to be stock,or flash the custom rom of your choice.

alternatively to be rooted on a stock rom,you can run the ruu you want to use(GB ot FROYO) then flash recovery,then flash superuser.

as long as you have s-off youre good to go,many ways you can skin the cat to fix :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] flooritnfly:
Ummmm....huh??

I still have S-OFF, and I can get to Bootloader screen and also Recovery screen (that says "REVOLUTIONARY" on bottom of Recovery screen) however when I try to restore my rom, it says "skipping" for everything and doesn't actually install it....

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I'm starting over. I hit Factory Reset on the recovery screen.

My main problem was that after I get s-off and it goes to download and flash CWM, the command window on my pc closes and my phone just sits on the Bootloader screen.....wtf?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
the "recovery screen" is clockwork. you dont need to start over.

doing a factory reset will not help you if you dont have a bootable rom on your phone.

youll need to flash something in recovery,or flash an RUU in hboot.

edit: video here that may help you: http://androidforums.com/thunderbolt-all-things-root/418539-thunderbolt-root-unroot-thread.html
[Thunderbolt Android Development] flooritnfly:
So I can't restore my rom that I was running a few days ago in recovery? I have to flash something new?

I don't want something new right now, I really just want to restore my rom.....

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OK, I started completely over, it gives me S-OFF just fine, then I get to the part where it says "Do you want to download and flash ClockworkMod Recovery?", I say yes, it reboots my phone into Bootloader, then the Revolutionary window closes all by itself and my phone just sits on the Bootloader screen.

I am connected to the Internet, my firewall is disabled, I Don't understand what I am doing wrong. :confused::confused::confused:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
How did you make a backup if you weren't rooted? If you were rooted,why did you run revolutionary? :confused:

The only thing I can tell you is take your battery out for a few minutes. Try and boot normally. If that fails you can try and restore a backup if you have one. If that fails,you will have to flash a new rom, either in hboot,or in recovery.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] flooritnfly:
I was rooted yesterday, made a backup of my rom, then had to unroot (just flashed the new 2.11.605.5 RUU) cause I was going into Verizon store.....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
mostly what youre doing wrong,is not listening. first of all,you are s-off,you dont need to keep running revolutionary, it has done its job. the s-off you get from running revolutionary is permanent. it will stay until you purposelfully remove it. all you will ever need to do after running an RUU is flash recovery,then flash superuser.

1)what recovery did you use to make your backup?

2)what happens when you select recovery from hboot?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] flooritnfly:
Whoa guy, settle. I figured it out. Mostly what screwed me up is the fact that I thought Rev didn't flash CWM but I guess it did, the command window just closes so freaking fast that I never saw the "success".

So I'm all good now. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
thats what i was trying to tell you in posts 1097 and 1099. :rolleyes:

but at any rate,im glad you figured it out :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] shilohdrummer:
Could anyone tell me if the new gingerbread OTA can be rooted via this method?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CoolRalph:
questoin...can i do this from my phone using terminal emulator? i just got a new thunderbolt with stock on it and im bored at work and wanna root it
[Thunderbolt Android Development] joshw0000:
You should be able to. Some of the commands are different from adb to terminal emulator. If you can translate them I don't see why it wouldn't work.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
assuming youre refering to the manual method,no it wont work in terminal.

just find a pc and run revolutionary. its quick and painless and doesnt disturb your data.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] a1exus:
any ideas?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] xs11e:
No joy....

Revolutionary sez: wrong password. Nothing seems to fix it but it did work last time I rooted so what's happening?

Finally got it to work! Tip: If you're having problems with the password, copy and paste it into Notepad and then change to font as needed to be SURE you can tell O from 0, l from 1 and any other characters that cause problems. Also, use serial number, not MEID.

My problem was multiple characters of 0, O, l and 1 in the password!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ebourd:
i had same problem keep saying wrong key any luck on on downgrading mr2 my buddy just got a tb with it preinstalled
[Thunderbolt Android Development] afleaddog:
I am stuck..Just received a replacement bolt. First time using revolution. Using windows i followed the directions and started the program. It just sits at "waiting for device...". I am stuck now what do i do?

OK...so I didnt have debugging on...what a dumb a$$...it worked great!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] flooritnfly:
Question: Am I able to root with Revolutionary if I do NOT have an internet connection at home?

I access the internet at home via tethering from my Thunderbolt, so if I am unrooted trying to root it I won't be able to tether obviously.....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
as long as you have somewhere to download revolutionary and get the beta key,i dont see why it wouldnt work. you will have to install recovery manually(revolutionary needs internet to download and install its clockwork) so id make sure you have recoverys and the superuser files at home,or make sure to download them and put them on the same flash drive(or whatever :eek:) that you use to transport revolutionary home :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] flooritnfly:
I just talked to VZW and am strongly considering going in to either get a new sim card or a swapped out Thunderbolt because I have been having horrible radio problems where the "3G" or "4g" symbol disappears and I have no data connection.

So I need to unroot and go back to out-of-box state....What is the most current way of doing this? Step-by-step version of course.... Also since my phone was rooted with Revolutionary, how do I get my bootloader back to locked and S-on?

The last thing I want is to be prevented from getting a new device or sim card cause they found out I was rooted.......:(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
http://androidforums.com/thunderbolt-all-things-root/418539-thunderbolt-root-unroot-thread.html
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rdompor:
Hey guys,

I got a replacement phone and rooted with Revolutionary. It looks like custom recovery can't restore the back up I made of the old phone? Is there something wrong here?

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Edit:

Looks like there was something wrong with that particular back up file. I'm able to restore a different one.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] flooritnfly:
How do I install recovery manually??
[Thunderbolt Android Development] hallstevenson:
Put the file on your SD card, rename it PG05IMG.zip, and restart the bootloader. It will look for files with certain names, PG05IMG.zip being one of them, and ask you to apply it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] flooritnfly:
Yup, I actually guessed that was it and it worked! Thanks tho!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fliint:
I used this method to root my TB, Now can someone please tell me which one is the safest way too unroot my TB. Thanks in advance
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1310014
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fliint:
Thank you very much sir.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] perplexx8x:
Ran Rev now stuck at waiting for fastboot....

waiting for fastboot... and the phone is frozen at the HBOOT and the battery must be pulled at that point.. Any ideas?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bladestonez:
hi i just traded in my xperia play today for a tbolt and tried revolutionary on it i get

Zerging root... this might take a minute or so... Failed to get Root! :(

tried 3 times all with the same result am i just SOL or?

*edit*

found the downgrade thread didnt realize i had updated to unrootable/s-offable

will downgrade and try again in the morning.

*edit 2* downgraded and used revolution successfully and flashed eternity, loving the tbolt so much more now :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] AcE XBOX:
I cannot downgrade :( Says it's an older version and it fails. Any ideas? My phone fukked up and ended up getting the mr2 update all on its own fffuuuu
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bemyax:
I may be naive about this, but can't we go to dev.htc.com to unlock our Thunderbolts if necessary? I guess one drawback would be that they would know who you are and where you live. I hope I never have to find out. Correct me if I'm wrong please.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
what are you trying to downgrade too? :confused:

everyone else has downgraded from 2.11.605.9 to 2.11.605.5 with no prollems. mr2 was a froyo upate,so ive no idea wat youre refering to,or what youve tried.

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you could. if youve a used TB its not a big deal,but if its still got mfg warranty left,be forewarned that htcdev unlock will void "all or parts" of it. :eek:

good news is if you had to resort to htcdev to get root,you wouldnt be stuck with it. all youll need to do is unlock,flash a recovery,flash the stock rooted 605.5 rom in recovery. then run revolutionary and youre back to s-off. yay! :D theres a thread describing it here.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] i'manoob:
inappropriate ioctl for device

I keep getting this message when running step 3 any ideas?