yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
And I was replying to everyone who thinks you were muzzled somehow. The links were in no way intended to further this nor an attack on you. I thought we had gotten past this but as I can see from comments above this has become a "cult of personality" and no matter what is said or done people are going to pick and choose what they want to hear. I agree the situation has become ridiculous.

Once again for you fanbois....the problem was settled yesterday between Roebeet and I. Both publically and privately as a matter of fact. So before you start questioning my manhood, maybe you should check your facts.

The community is already destroyed at this point. Thats too bad but it is. And yes I know the fanbois will blame me. I dont care. I dont even care if you keep filling my inbox with your stupidity. Have fun.....enjoy yourselves.

Once again for you fanbois too stupid to read....While I dont agree with the path that Roebeet has taken and some harsh things were said to each other I still believe he was a good spokeman for the android community and the gtab specifically. And the path he has chosen is his right and he believes in it. He makes a stand and sticks with it. Wrong or right thats what hes done as have several others including myself. None of this should have been handled in public and all the hate filled comments aren't gonna help.

For my part I am done with it now. I know I've already said it once as Roebeet has and we've both backed out of that statement for what we felt were good reasons.

All the best to you Roebeet in whatever path you take.

@ any mods....please remove my account from your server and remove any links to my email
[G Tablet General] astevens54:
Roebeet, what do you know about "pershoots"?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
His kernel, I assume? Tmk, he only has 1.1-based kernels but you'd have to ask him to be certain.

Someone else here asked about customized kernels for this new 1.2-based branch, but I'd need pershoot or clem to respond to that.

And @badfrog, best wishes as well. My only reason for being angry is that I don't understand why people don't "get" why I am doing this. I'm not trying to destroy anyone, and I'm not trying to make a power play here. I just want to make tablet mods, that's all. When did this become such a problem to accomplish?

As for the community, it will be fine. Neither you nor I are important enough to make that much of an impact. Users will soft-brick, modders will adapt and in a month this will all be behind us.
[G Tablet General] cgrucelski:
Maybe I am missing something, but...

Although I've only had my gTablet since the Woot sale several weeks ago, I've used several of Roebeet's ROMs and modifications during that time, beginning with the stock enhancement pack, then TNT Lite 4.40, etc. I've also tried several other ROM flavors that he hasn't been involved with at all. But, that's the beauty of the Android development community... I have a choice.

When I examine the 'Development' section of the this forum, I see numerous ROMs with Roebeet's name on them, as either primary author or a key contributor. When I think back over the past several weeks, I also recall numerous posts and threads that Roebeet contributed to that provided me with invaluable assistance as I've become more familiar with this great little device.

In fact, just last night I successfully restored my 'soft-bricked' device to the original firmware, then successfully updated to the latest firmware in a matter of a few minutes... all with very little concern at all on my part. The community support provided by Roebeet and MOST other members is great.

It's too bad that not everyone contributes positively and has the same intentions within these forums. I can honestly say that I don't recall reading any truly helpful responses and/or posts by at least one of the other individuals in this thread. And that is just too bad, as it affects the entire community.

I hope that everyone continues to contribute positively to these and other Android development forums. Before hitting 'submit' on a post blasting someone or simply making comments that really won't help the situation, think about what it was like when you were in that person's shoes. We all started somewhere, so be patient with those who are still learning and/or aren't as far long as you.

Peace. Oh, and keep up the great work developers!
[G Tablet General] chedderquest:
android.process.acore has stopped unexpectiedly!

Roe,

I have been using twotaps x and its been running fine, even with the so called hassles of soft bricking my gtab (pun intended). I am now getting "the process android.process.acore has stopped unexpectiedly. Please try again" all I did today was a power cycle?? Any ideas?

Thanks to all who response!
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
This pre-release mod has been FULLY RETIRED, FYI

I am not developing the GA release 1.0 TwoTapsX here in XDA. I will leave the pre-release based information as-is, as a reference.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
A data wipe would be my suggestion, FYI.
[G Tablet General] usafle:
Ok, so, question; if this has been retired, there is going to be no more updates down this "path"? Where do we go from here for those of us that have completed this path?
[G Tablet General] cutterjohn:
Ah crap now I've gotta nvflash fun again, but at least I can do that with the gtab! :D

Anyways not checked in a while as I er... suffered an injury, but felt I had to chortle at the RIM "Play"book which is apparently a brick w/o a RIM phone such as I initially surmised WAY back... *snort* WAY TO GO RIM!

(I wonder who their partners(Apple, M$, Oracle, etc. ad nauseum) are with them in purchasing Nortel(AT&T Bell Labs NORTH, an AMERICAN company ffs! for which almost everyone here should worship or at least give more kudos than anyone here presently!) are colluding to derail Google patent purchases...)

Oh my too much offtopic for me to say here, and my shoulder's about to go again...

I guess back to TnTl franikenport, but I can't say that I'm surprised given what's happened here so far and not really feeling up to gTab disassembly if that ends up the case ATM, but I'm covered! ;)
[G Tablet General] cutterjohn:
No offense to roebeet etc. but I hardly believe that they can live up to the standard set by AT&T Bell Labs North before the divestiture... sorry but to me it's a fact of life, and personally I doubt that I will live up to it either given the dearth of actual R&D positions in the US outside of Intel...

It's a drive to the bottom now boys until something earthshattering happens and the beancounters spill the beans...

[EDIT]

Xerox PARC PALES in comparison to what AT&T Bell Labs North was BEFORE the gubbermint ordered divestiture...

[/EDIT]

[EDIT2]

OK, my last rant about AT&T Bell Labs North(==Nortel), but before I stop going offtopic I'd like to say:

Go Wings!

(and *ouch*)

[/EDIT2]
[G Tablet General] usafle:
That's just freaking insane.... :mad:
[G Tablet General] cutterjohn:
Ugh kind of like the crap phone that I purchased, well the phone itself is sortof niceish but the support is crap and they have excessive long distance rates outside of third world nations, but that said... well I lost my train of though for the moment...
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I can say that it's going to be on Slatedroid (that's now permitted and I have confirmed that). But I cannot supply an actual link - I'm sure that a user could find it if they tried, however.
[G Tablet General] kozmo2k4:
:confused:
[G Tablet General] karlkarloff:
Just wanted to confirm that if you remove flash 10.1 and then reboot, 10.2 will install itself. Takes a few minutes for it to show up on the app list under settings, but its there. So no data wipe needed.

On a different note, I'm really liking the TNT5.0/TwoTapsx ROM. I haven't had a single problem and it runs smooth. Honestly, installing it wasn't even that big a pain. A few tense moments where I thought something had gone wrong, but that was more due to the fact that after all the warnings, I expecting it to fail. I kinda hope that VS goes this way, because I can see a difference in performance, at least I can playing Angry Birds, and really that's all that matters.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Thanks for the confirm - I had looked at the script they have, but I never actually did the uninstall test.

I'm guessing that they will keep this new development branch. But their big problem is that 2967 (the original firmware) will not work as a baseline either - you need a newer ROM first, like 3588. My guess is that, if they keep it, they'll have to find a way to get users earlier than a certain firmware up to 3588 first, and THEN have the over-the-air updater allow them to go to 3991 (or whatever else they cook up). I also suspect that it's the reason why they'll held off on releasing this.

Either way, they aren't going to care about clockworkmod users. :(
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
a little strangeness in 02 supplimental

I tried to apply the 02 supplimental using clockworkmod to install from an sd card location and it did not work, I had to fall back to the Recovery/update.zip method which worked just fine. Not sure what went wrong but I am there now and have re-installed CWmod .08 for post 5.

As others have posted, I really like this new direction and ROM but as roebeet has stated we will just have to wait and see where VS decides to go. If this is the correct direction I assume that things will end up needing rebuilding like some of the custom kernels, and, I can only hope "ROM manager". So far this is the only app that is not working correctly for me out of 81 user apps....not a bad average over all.
[G Tablet General] kicker22004:
would like to know if anyone is interested in a Xoom INSPIRED (not identical in no way) theme for this, I was making it for 5.01 but can't be too much to move over. Anyone wanting it please let me know and i'll post it in themes section...that is if enought ppl like the idea.I'll be posting shots soon.
[G Tablet General] chief1978:
Roebett,

I love your roms.

Having reboot/insufficient space errors inthe market with large apps. Angry birds/vital player.

When I installed I partitioned SD card first 2048/0 so don't think its that.

Path was 5 - 5.01 - 9.02

Happened on 5.01 as well.

Thanks
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Angry birds goes into the SD card, not /data (a few apps do that) - so, whatever it is, it's related to /sdcard.

A quick trick - mount the /sdcard onto your PC, then retry the AB install again. It should work as it installs to /data instead. Doesn't fix the problem, but it's a possible workaround.

I haven't tested cwm (TNTL5/TTx version) too heavily, so I might want to look into that more. It installed and I did nandroid backups, but I haven't really used it for installs too much. If it's failing then it really might need to be re-compiled from scratch. Mine is more of a hack. cwm .8 doesn't see the microSD, if I remember correctly.

And yes, if this is their direction then it's going to shake up the community here a bit. Heck, this is only a UAT and it already has.
[G Tablet General] kozmo2k4:
Currently on 5.0.1, wanted to flash TTx-0.9.2, extracted recovery folder and update.zip to sdcard, rebooted Volume+ and recovery (stock) won't come up. All I get is the "wrench & screwdriver" black screen alternatively flashing with gtablet screen white screen.

If I just turn it on, it boots just fine and everything works OK.

In prep for the flash I uninstalled Flash 10.1, but don't see that would have anything to do with it.

Should I try to install "post-5" CWM?

[EDIT] Re-downloaded the v9.0.2.rar, extracted to sdcard, booted Volume+, it flashed the supplement, in About Tablet shows TwoTapsX v.9.0.2, in Downloaded Applications is Flash 10.2. I think it's time for "MarketFix", as it only shows my purchased apps.
[G Tablet General] tnt2gamer:
Stuck in a Recovery Loop with TTX 5.0.1

I ran into a new problem yesterday. Now my GTab is stuck in a recovery loop. Everytime I reboot, it goes into recovery. It all started with all of my programs shutting down on a reboot. After trying to reboot a few times with the same result, I did a factory reset/data wipe. After rebooting from this, my GTab would only go into recovery mode. I was running TnT Lite 5.0.1 at the time, and had been running it successfully for days.

Has anyone else ran into this problem?
[G Tablet General] wheeless:
Lesson Learned From Not Wiping Data

I've successfully moved to 9.02 (many thanks to Roebeet for his continuing willingness to support these ROMS) but decided that I don't need that data wipe business.

Update was fine but have learned that not doing data wipe causes me to have to uninstall and then reinstall about 60% of my apps - which gives the equivalent of a data wipe.

Don't know why some apps work just fine (like Angry Birds) without the wipe, some work only after an uninstall/reinstall - essentially a data wipe (like Pulse and Tune-in Radio), and others don't work at all since 5.0 (like LauncherPro).

Just passing this along as a lesson learned that it would have been quicker to do one data wipe instead of these individual uninstalls/reinstalls - but at least it's an interesting lesson that the changes in the underlying ROM do have app impact.
[G Tablet General] mikesal57:
In my 2 years on android phones....

All the devs and the roms they cooked have mentioned one thing consistently..

WIPE WIPE WIPE

There are too many errors that can happen if you don't clean your device

So if your too lazy to reset it back to original format, then your asking for whatever you get!!

wipe...data....cache...dalvik
[G Tablet General] proneck321:
Nothing wrong with a good old reformatting of the SD occasionally ive found, you can always load up a rom off of the ext SD using a recovery script pointing to sd2 instead of sd
[G Tablet General] mikesal57:
that too...:D
[G Tablet General] joe2262:
If your seeing your purchased apps only install anything and all your apps will reappear.
[G Tablet General] joe2262:
I'm running v.9.02 and Launcher Pro Plus is just fine. Concerning data wipes, the only wipe I ever performed was when upgrading v4.2.5 to v5.0.0. But... I've sideloaded the last two flash updates and I stopped using CWM since moving to v5.0.0.
[G Tablet General] butchconner:
All,

Since you mentioned it, my two cents.

When installing, most of my .apks wind up in the /download directory of /sdcard. I put the sideload .apks in with them.

So when I have to wipe, I just use whatever file manager to bring up /download and I start at the bottom installing the .apks about one every 10 seconds. Really doesn't

take long.

Only catch is going back and adding passwords, etc. for the programs that need them.

But it's better than having a cranky tablet!! :)

Rev
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I personally use adb, like this:

./adb pull /data/app ./somefolder

That drops all my data apps into a folder called "somefolder" (keep in mind that the ./ are Nix based). Then, I write up a very quick and dirty "adb install" script to restore. In Nautilus and Gedit, it's fairly simple (and I'm NOT a dev - no real coding required) - just copy the files, past them into Gedit and then a quick search and replace to setup "adb install" on each line.

For actual data (cough cough Angry Birds levels) I use Titanium Backup.
[G Tablet General] bkbrod:
Hey Roebeet, will Gojimis 3D launcher work with this rom?
[G Tablet General] lsu205:
Wipe data

Does erase which folders data?
[G Tablet General] kozmo2k4:
In a couple of ROM's for Samsung Moment, there was a script to install apk's backed up using Astro (on /sdcard/backups/apps) during flash, so your apps (only, no app-data) were restored and ready. Pretty neat. Have to dig it up.

But Titanium does that AND app-data; that's the tool of my choice. ADB works good too.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Wipe data wipes /data - that's where the user apks live. It doesn't wipe content (ie /sdcard).

No clue, I haven't tested it. Feel free. :)

The ROM itself, once it's up and running, is similar in setup to old stock as far as the apks and how they are coded. So if an apk works on an old ROM, it should work here as well. The only issue is customized kernels - they won't work.
[G Tablet General] bkbrod:
Well, guess I'll give a try. Nothing to lose except possibly reinstalling a backup. :p
[G Tablet General] chief1978:
Didn't work, remove app then install rather than update did. Strange.
[G Tablet General] lsu205:
Okay all myapps are in a download folder, all folders that are named data are empty???????
[G Tablet General] ramerco:
Just to be clear, this isn't working with custom kernels, but does it still have shutdown during steep issues?
[G Tablet General] CARMELHILL:
How do you do a backup of 5.0.1?

I kept reading that CMR.8 isn't compatible with this Rom. So how r u guys protecting yourselves and making backups. Is there a built-in backup/recovery tool that I haventseen?

Thanks.
[G Tablet General] karlkarloff:
It worked for me. no problem at all and it looks really cool. I keep switching between it and Zeam, can't really decide which one I like the best.
[G Tablet General] bkbrod:
Yea, I did go ahead and install Gojimis 3D launcher. Its working great. I keep going between it and Launcher Pro.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
There is a version of ClockworkMod that IS compatible also called v.8 which can be found in the first post of this thread (under the heading: "Other links of note").

It works just fine (Roebeet rebuilt it using the new kernel), but it is only compatible with version TwoTapsX (EXPERIMENTAL) previously known as TnT-lite 5. Do NOT try to use it to restore back to versions 1-4.
[G Tablet General] CARMELHILL:
Bobtran, thanks from the response. Sorry I didn't see that in thefirst post. I thought it was the original CWM.8. I'll look again.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Ah, was already there. Might be because the ROM itself tries to install AB (it's the same as stock). Maybe it messes something up, because of it.
[G Tablet General] cutterjohn:
...what happens when I don't have time to look for a bit, TnTl -> TTx 0.9 ... sheesh... looks like it's started putting nails in TnTl's coffin already though...

Well, finally got around to doing another data wipe which seems to have fixed all of my minor FCs.

So, TnTl 5.0.0 (or TTx 0.9) -> TTx 0.9.02 goes fine... (well, used new stock recovery to wipe cache & data/factory reset since I didn't have cwm installed to do it & fix perms but all went well)

One thing that I noted though is that it seems to take a bit longer for the custom TnT settings to load now. Didn't use it much though as I put it on AC again to do the wiping/updates & decided best to let it go until LED went green again -> I need to install cwm again to try resetting batt stats hopefully to get it closer to what it really is, i.e. sw meter v. batt hw as it took a couple hours more to charge to green v. sw was already saying 100% a couple of hours ago.

(Kind of good that I let it charge though as it meant using the A43IT which I really should be doing anyways just to make sure it'll be staying before my 30d return window is up... I'm especially wary of dieing touch screens... I have to say again that I'm really liking the smaller form factor although a 4.8" probably would've been better. More like a PDA size and larger enough than the 3.2" A32IT plus higher res to be more generally useful, but again if only for a PixelQi or greyscale-LCD screen for sunny/bright usage. Back facing camera's handy too if not the greatest quality.)
[G Tablet General] chief1978:
Roebeet,

Can you put the current version no in thread title.

Otherwise can't quickly tell if updated.
[G Tablet General] danielsjam:
Just FYI - DONT USE the QUICK BOOT apk TO BOOT INTO RECOVERY MODE,

as well as reboot recovery from the Android terminal or ADB.

The recovery command will break CWM. Using the power button and volume + work just fine.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
IT'S BACK, but again NOT FOR NOOBS

Imo, if you don't know how to use nvflash, you should NOT use this ROM. Just a headsup.
[G Tablet General] erraskey:
Works for me

Pretty much a noob. Have nvflash ready to go but have never used it. Stable since 5.x install. No plan to back out whatsoever. Though VS may have something to say about that.

Note: during install wiped data at least four times, just in case! Before, during and after install. And then again just in case! If any original user data remains it's a miracle equivalent to an unlimited plan for $25 bucks a month!!!
[G Tablet General] williamsck:
Best way to learn...do what I did. Brick your Tab and figure it out. You will get pretty good at it after two hours or so.
[G Tablet General] kozmo2k4:
Read the First Post

... and now I'm BLIND!

lol.... good to see it back, even though I did not have a whole lot of luck with 5.0.1-9.02... had to back down to 4.2.5 and all is good.

Great to be on the edge of technology again....

Thanks Mr.Roe
[G Tablet General] Broken:
Well, just got my tablet back from warranty. Put update.zip onto internal sd. Power off and reboot into recovery and refuses to flash:

Formatting misc...

Rebooting...

Will not even flash 3588 update.zip.

Is my tablet locked down?

Weird, apparently I was having some data transfer issues. Re-transfered the two files and worked this time...
[G Tablet General] Synman:
Oh the drama..... yet roms like darky's v10 gingerbread bricking galaxys left and right stay up without question. Don't get me wrong.... I run darky 9.3 on my gt-i9000 - it just seems things are a bit more restrictive on this subforum.

Have you considered hosting your rom on an alternate site with a link to it from here?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Yes, I have already considered that - I have a presence in Slatedroid and I might move this over there. I already told the mods of that possibility. That way, if it floods the IRC then XDA can disavow all knowledge and responsibility, since it's not on their site anymore.

I'm hoping that Viewsonic will release their new firmware and then we can at least put this to bed, once and for all. To be completely honest, I hope that I'm wrong and that they don't release a new bootloader because it's going to create absolute havoc in this forum if they do. Right now we can ignore stock build 3991 since it was never released OTA. But if it ever were released, then there's no way to ignore it anymore.
[G Tablet General] memyselfii:
You can also YouTube "nvflash" and a friendly user pensacolacomp will hold your hand through the process. It helped me fix my magic missmatched problem last night.

Thank you to both Robeet and Pensacola.

Also Robeet, well done with the USB host functionality with the Zoom. Any possibility of accomplishing that with the Gtab?
[G Tablet General] K J Rad:
Has anyone collected any real data about these troubles?

1) How many users affected?

2) Verified that they followed the correct procedures for update/recovery?

3) What additional symptoms were experienced?

4) What ROM were they on before they started?

5) What ROM were they trying to get back to?

6) What conditions existed that might have prevented nvflash from working correctly?

Seriously, if so many people are affected by a relatively simple procedure then there may be something else going on here. Things like prior corruption to the partition table could be a significant deterent to success but are certainly not the fault of this ROM. Burying our heads in the sand by pulling the links doesn't fix anything.