yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] EdisDee:
if i set the brightness to the lowest (10) (thanks to app called dimmer from lestats rom) my screen starts to dimm it self a little bit and then back again in high frequency. sorry for my crappy english but i hope you get my point. the phone is very responsive. great work !
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] kyrillos13:
Blinking? .
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Y0RGI:
for a moment becomes brighter then back to normal brightness

and do that every 2 seconds.

EDIT:

I noticed that only when I'm playing
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] EdisDee:
yeah thats the word i meant to say :D

didnt see Y0RGI's post ;)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] marcellusbe:
Thanks you all for your comments.

I change some values and I post another beta.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Y0RGI:
Yuppie! Another beta! :D

I hope you menage to fix Bluetooth!

Keeping my fingers crossed ;P
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] kyrillos13:
Wow dude you are awesome! You are doing excellent work. If you can, add swap in your next version too. :)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] EdisDee:
and jit if possible too! thanks!!!!
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] marcellusbe:
thanx ... nothing much to help the community.

by the way, you give good work too.

Jit is composed of libraries and some executable... its independant from the kernel (correct me if I m wrong).

I have the files... I'm willing to post them, to share with you all but it seems that some forums users would keep this secret until apocalypse rom is out.

I don't agree but I respect.

JIT is more important than an overclocked kernel in my opinion.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
it is legitim to post the files if you found out yourself, if you got the clue how to do i from the karma developers, you should keep them for you...
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] EdisDee:
anyway if they think we should wait then we can wait :)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
flashed just now, but commit=20 is not showing up in mount
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] shadow7582:
Even for me commit=20 is not showing.

I flashed back to 2.2beta1 a stable Phone is more worth for me than a little more speed.

Waiting for JIT.

Are all powersave features of our Processor working if the lowest frequency is set to 166MHz? Can we get back to 83MHz on next Version?

Does someone have a Datasheet for our Processor?

Does it save Power using ondemand scaling instead of conservative scaling?

Do we really need swap like kyrillos wants? Isn't compcache enough? I personally won't lose and stress memory for swap.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
Is it possible to disable compcache? I think it makes the ui lag. When i want to pull down notification area it gives me a lag of 2 or 3 seconds. I did not oc or something else, only change was new kernel.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] shadow7582:
compcache isn't new on 2.2beta2. Did you have this lag before upgrading?

Which scaling are you running on?

The Kernel overclocked by default to 1300MHz.

For me there is no lag (using Lestats stock theme).
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
Hmm, oc should only happen with setcpu installed, i only flashed the kernel.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] shadow7582:
Then i maybe was mislead by OSMonitors output. I will check that.

Edit:

OS Monitor shows me following:

Scaling Range: 166 750 - 1 300 000

Frequency Range: 166 750 - 1 300 000

but it seems that the Phone doesn't clock higher than 667MHz and after short time it hangs completely.

But when i install setcpu and set max_freq to 667MHz the phone keep running stable.

I don't really know if it is overclocked by default in the moment. I think we have to wait for the developer of this Kernel.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
Seems like u were right... will install setcpu to see what happens...

Ok, after reboot the lag was gone. Still without setcpu. However have to deal with a full data partition. Doing a titanium backup now, and then a factory reset. Will report back later...
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Kaleptik:
The only issue I'm having is notification vibrations are soft.

Sent from my ACID Lestatious 2.0 BUILD 1.7 Galaxy 3 FROYO
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] marcellusbe:
Well, I hack a bit the frequencies tables ... maybe this app doesn't like
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] marcellusbe:
Done in v2.2 final (1st post).

If you want to start compcache later, just launch /sbin/ramzswap.sh.

For EXT4 and commit=20, I checked again and I see the mount option ... strange
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Y0RGI:
Where I can find Fugumod 2.2 Bleeding Edge version? ;>

Cuz you upload only 2.2 FINAL.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
ok, seems it had nothing to do with compcache. i did a completely new flash and now everything is running smooth using setcpu. however threr is a flicker on the display, i feel it does this on frequency change. it is definitely connected to oc, since if max clock is set to 667000 it is not flickering at all. also like already mentioned the bootanimation is missing but this is just cosmetics however.

edit:

to be clear, commit=20 still not accepted

edit2:this was with beta2
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] marcellusbe:
I will upload it in 30-60 minutes :-)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
ok, final seems to be working, commit is accepted and bootanimation is back....

edit: but oc is gone, is that intended?

edit2: seems like i got a slow brain today... please forgive
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] marcellusbe:
Yes, I start 2 versions : one normal version and one advanced (bleeding edge) with OC.

I'm currently testing the new build and I upload it if no severe issue.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] marcellusbe:
OK. The new build bleeding edge seems to be better : bluetooth work and no blinking.

I suggest, if you test bleeding edge, to forget JFS : JFS make the phone very laggy : no problem with ext2/ext4.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Pauri:
@marcellbuse: Could you make the open gl drivers better? I want to play some games. I know it's a low end device, but i think games could run better.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
you wont be able to play those fancy 3d games ever on this device, it lacks the hardware for that... 3d is rendered in software as far as i get it...
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] jordane1993:
the 2.2 final with oc : bootanimation work, bluetooth not tested ...
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] coolzarjun:
2.2 oc : as soon as I try to overclock from setcpu.. from max 667 to 833.. the phone hangs and stop replying.... rebooted several times... works for first few mins and then phone hangs... what do I do? ????
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
do not overclock then, each particular cpu has its own overclockability, and as it seems yours does not like it at all.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] jordane1993:
you can open stecpu at 667 mhz, at the begining of the boot, i have the same problem at 1,3ghz .... 833 work very good, 1ghz lag somethime and 1.3 ghz dont supoorted with my cpu x)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] coolzarjun:
Arent all cpus identicle? ??

And i do want an overclock :)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] rudolf895:
I talked to Apollo about this and he said he got the same result when he posted a screenshot before..But he also said that the values were fake in some manner, with double the clock speed there must be at least 60% boost in the Quadrant score...

SO CAN SOME ONE POST SOME SCORES HERE?

"linpack and quadrant scores"?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] jazux:
not all are the same... they are same model but that doesnt mean that they are identicle
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] coolpepe:
I tried the overclocked version and my G3 is working nicely and smoothly and i got a score of 595.:D
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
I got even 6something, don't remember exactly and can not test now...
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] jordane1993:
I have the JIT enable and kyrillos v4.0 RC

oc 833 mhz :

Linpack : 10.1 MFlops in 8.2 seconde

quadrant :

Cpu:668

memory:466

I/O:379

2D:478

3D:144

Total:427

oc 1000 mhz :

Linpack : 11.4 MFlops in 7.3 seconde

quadrant :

Cpu:742

memory:475

I/O:380

2D:543

3D:151

Total:458

coolpepe: oc at 1,3 ghz ?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] shubhamchamaria:
here is my adb shell mount code:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]

Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\USER>cd c:\

c:\>adb shell

* daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *

* daemon started successfully *

mount

unt

unt: not found

# mount

mount

rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0

proc /proc proc rw,relatime 0 0

sys /sys sysfs rw,relatime 0 0

tmpfs /dev tmpfs rw,relatime,mode=755 0 0

devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,relatime,mode=600 0 0

none /acct cgroup rw,relatime,cpuacct 0 0

tmpfs /mnt/asec tmpfs rw,relatime,mode=755,gid=1000 0 0

none /dev/cpuctl cgroup rw,relatime,cpu 0 0

/dev/block/stl6 /system ext4 ro,relatime,commit=20,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0

/dev/block/stl7 /data ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,commit=20,barrier=

1,data=ordered 0 0

/dev/block/stl8 /cache ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,commit=20,barrier

=1,data=ordered 0 0

/dev/block/stl4 /efs rfs rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,vfat,llw,check=no,gid/uid/rwx,

iocharset=cp437 0 0

/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /system/sd ext4 rw,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0

/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data/app ext4 rw,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0

/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data/log ext4 rw,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0

/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data/dalvik-cache ext4 rw,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered

0 0

/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data/app ext4 rw,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0

/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data/log ext4 rw,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0

/dev/block/vold/179:1 /mnt/sdcard vfat rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,u

id=1000,gid=1015,fmask=0002,dmask=0002,allow_utime=0020,codepage=cp437,iocharset

=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0

/dev/block/vold/179:1 /mnt/secure/asec vfat rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relat

ime,uid=1000,gid=1015,fmask=0002,dmask=0002,allow_utime=0020,codepage=cp437,ioch

arset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0

tmpfs /mnt/sdcard/.android_secure tmpfs ro,relatime,size=0k,mode=000 0 0

/dev/block/dm-0 /mnt/asec/com.rovio.angrybirdsrio-1 vfat ro,dirsync,nosuid,nodev

,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,fmask=0222,dmask=0222,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859

-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0

/dev/block/dm-1 /mnt/asec/com.osa.android.mapdroyd-1 vfat ro,dirsync,nosuid,node

v,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,fmask=0222,dmask=0222,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso885

9-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0

/dev/block/dm-2 /mnt/asec/com.com2us.sliceit-1 vfat ro,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noex

ec,relatime,uid=1000,fmask=0222,dmask=0222,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,sh

ortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0

/dev/block/dm-3 /mnt/asec/com.piviandco.fatbooth-1 vfat ro,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,

noexec,relatime,uid=1000,fmask=0222,dmask=0222,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-

1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0

#

Edit: How to create fs.convert file
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Pinak.ahuja:
Running on bleeding edge with 833 mHz pretty smooth and stable till now.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] jazux:
how long did you write that? :-D
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] rudolf895:
is that a good score for a overclocked phone?

You gotta be kidding me!

Both the totals have near values!

Thus my point proved!
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] jazux:
is kyrillos 4.0 out yet?? with JIT?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] dxdiag32:
what about the battery life ?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] shubhamchamaria:
I'm getting 450 with fugumod and kyrillos rom oc to 1.3ghz...(horrible)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] kyrillos13:
There is only a test version out for some testers... No official release!! v4.0 will come after apocalypse with jit, fugumod kernel and many more...

Sent from my Awesome Galaxy 3
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] kyrillos13:
@marcellusbe, i found why in your 2.2 beta 2 kernel, the boot animation isnt working. I think fugutweaks is the problem. I installed it in a rom without fugutweaks and it is working. When i get home i will test v2.2 final oc version...

Sent from my Awesome Galaxy 3
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Mr.Gamer:
Same question...i don't see the motivation behind all this secrecy
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] jordane1993:
Sorry Kyrillos for the spoiler to the 4.0 test ....

The battery life don't move many. I test all the day or week.

rudolf895: yes , but di you know why he have an difference between this OC and that of apocalypse rom ?

I have the same score at quadrant with stock jpm and jit only. no fugutweaks, sd tweak etc.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] stubborn_d0nkey:
Correct me if im wrong, but most people recommend stl6 and stl7 ext4 and stl8 ext2?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hodostamas:
hmm, installed with odin, created fs.convert file with:

st16 ext4
st18 ext2

rebooted, and then nothing happens, phone starts normal :S
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] s3th.g3ck9:
Hi guys here are my benchmarks with the Beeding Edge Kernel:

Tested on Kyrillos' v3.3 (no JIT)

Quadrant on 667 Mhz = 320

Quadrant on 833 Mhz = 363

Quadrant on 1000 Mhz = 385

Quadrant on 1300 Mhz = 439

Linpack on 667 Mhz ... MFLOPS = 2.91

Linpack on 833 Mhz ... MFLOPS = 3.58

Linpack on 1000 Mhz ... MFLOPS = 4.293

Linpack on 1300 Mhz ... MFLOPS = 5.434

So Quadrant don't seems to be increased very much, but Linpack score doubles up. I've no problems with freezing and i'm currently running on 1300 Mhz.

What should i check to see if everything's allright? Batterytemp should be an indecator, am i right?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] rudolf895:
sorry i dint get you?

who he?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hodostamas:
ahh... placed the wronge folder the fs.convert...

"How does it work ?

Once you create your fs.convert file in /sdcard/Android/data/fs.convert, the conversion will start on the next reboot."

pls fix the description... it must be created in /sdcard/Android/data/fugumod folder.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] jordane1993:
you can compar the life of battery at 1300 and 667,

For the moment after 3h of mp3, play with the phone, ( wifi, quadrant, cpu etc) at 833 mhz, i have 80%, the battery use more but no many, i continue the test
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] tgm28:
Can someone write an init.d script which sets cpu freq at 833Mhz ?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hodostamas:
data/system converted to ext4, cache ext2.

Quadrant test result: 332 still before fugumod :(

-20MB on internal SD. Phone speed is, hmm not faster.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Pauri:
Can someone tell me how to enable jit in lestatious?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] s3th.g3ck9:
ext4 does not increase quadrant. But you'll feel that it's faster.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] s3th.g3ck9:
What type of scaling in setcpu are you using pals?

EDIT: Has anyone als the problem that adb is saying device is offline after flashing?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hodostamas:
no problem with ADB.

s3th.g3ck9: i hope so :)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] s3th.g3ck9:
Strange... adb working now.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] tgm28:
These 20MB is still in internal SD, but some apps don't show it good.

Stock Sys manager shows memory -10mb but root explorer show it good

For example: i have used 60 mb. First app show me 70mb. Second app (root expl.) shows 60mb used.

Can someone write an init.d script which sets cpu freq at 833Mhz ?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
Marcellusbe can you mention in first post somewhere that cache should not be converted to ext4 since it gives problems with bigger apps in market... i always see people doing this, can't be to long till first problems come up.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Mr.Gamer:
question: what about swapon/swapoff commands? they seems not included with this busybox...

so i can't enable swap :-(

EDIT: feedback!

I just flashed from zero kyrillos 3.3, didn't let odin reboot, flashed fugumod 2.2 BE

and it rebooted much faster, 1300mhz stable bluetooth works, all programs works...partitions are already ext4 as for KYR3.3

Only problem is i can't install apps from market!! Dunno what's the problem, but it's a clean install so...
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Urmas1:
I had - just replugged cable and it works again.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
There is no swap support on this kernel, however there is compcache (ramzswap) and it is mentioned somewhere in the last pages here how to enable this.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
I think

adb restart-server

Would have done the same.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] s3th.g3ck9:
So this is the best combination i think.

/dev/block/stl6 /system ext4 ro,relatime,commit=20,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0

/dev/block/stl7 /data ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,commit=20,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0

/dev/block/stl8 /cache ext2 rw,nosuid,nodev,nodiratime,relatime,errors=continue 0 0

/dev/block/stl4 /efs rfs rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,vfat,llw,check=no,gid/uid/rwx,iocharset=cp437 0 0

commit=20 helps saving power or what was about that?

What scaling would be the "best" with oc?

Ok found descriptions to the different scaling options:

Powersave will keep the CPU constantly at the lowest frequency.

Ondemand will set the CPU at the lowest frequency ( until use of the CPU increases, then it will automatically bump it up to the highest frequency.

Userspace means that a different program will be used to control the CPU’s scaling.

Conservative is where your CPU will go up as needed, starting at the lowest frequency, and then bumping up to the next available until it maxes out.

Performance simply sets the CPU(s) at the highest available frequency and keeps it there.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
commit=20 speeds up also, this makes that the journal is written every 20sec instead of 5sec default. This means u can loose last 20sec of data on unclean shutdown, which is acceptable, and less write actions mean more time for other stuff and less power consumption.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] s3th.g3ck9:
Ok thanks. Just didn't know that this commit is for the journal write. So isn't this relativ? Couldn't you write every 30 secs too?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Pinak.ahuja:
Can't enable compcache with bleeding edge while running script it says /sbin/swapon not found .
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
Also possible, but u have to find the perfect ballance of speed and security.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] tgm28:
I will have to re-flash whole rom, because I want to convert system & data partitions to ext4. It is converting since 40 minutes
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] stubborn_d0nkey:
linpack gives me 3.5-4.2 with 1000mhz, however its always an inaccurate result
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
40 min seems definitely long...
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] cdesai:
I get 630 without jit and oc both
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] stubborn_d0nkey:
Had some trouble with 1000mhz and 1300mhz (phone would freeze), 833 working fine for now
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] JackStow:
anyone have a good fs.convert combination file to share with us?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] s3th.g3ck9:
st16 ext4
st17 ext4
st18 ext2

This should be a good combination. /efs (st14) should stay rfs.

There's still the possibility the use jfs, but for many people there occured trouble with jfs (reseting language at boot, etc...).
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Kaleptik:
Running 1.3 GHz all the time. No errors.

Linpack: 5.393 MFLOPS

Quadrant: 401 with cache: ext2 and data/system: ext4

And as you can tell, no JIT yet.

and I'm glad to see vibration works as it should now.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] debaj:
Can somebody tell me about the battery life after overclock?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] s3th.g3ck9:
Having the same setup (same fs and same oc value) and nearly exactly the same benchmarks. Still there's the question flying 'round why Apollo get's that much higher benchmarks with his oc... :confused:
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Kaleptik:
Isn't their JIT enabled?

Sent from my ACID Lestatious 2.0 BUILD 1.7 Galaxy 3 FROYO
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] kyrillos13:
It is, but apollo's linpack with 833 is ~27 Mflops... mine with 833 is 10~ Mflops. But i am sure that marcellusbe will find it out :P
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] dxdiag32:
what about now?i really wanna know whether it make shorter battery life

:)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Y0RGI:
Compare a value.

Most interesting thing is how Apollo gain some about 600 points more

(especially) in memory and CPU then common user? ;P

Using

I don't mention about ~8 MFLOPS more in Linpack ;)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
Battery life can be short the first few cycles, and get better later. As for Linpak, try to set gouvernour to performance and then do a benchmark. Can't test now, but afaik linpak does not demand higher CPU frequency, so we have to force highest...

And for fs.convert it has to be stl6 like in STL otherwise it wont do anything...
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Y0RGI:
I try different combinations with setCPU and Quadrant but best score I get when i set

scaling governor at ondemand and Max freq. at 1300Mhz.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] deskjeti:
maybe he enabled a lagfix?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
Btw, don't give to much attention to quadrant values, we also have Hz=500 that is faster task switching, and thus smoother interface but costs some quadrant points...
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
And trust me, u can not eat quadrant points
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Y0RGI:
I agree with you.

Sometimes features boost performance, not benchmarks results.

But in the other hand - that extra points don't come out from the air.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
Maybe from a loop device
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] jazux:
to all, if you want to enable JIT heres instructions ---> http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9701019&postcount=2457 I DO NOT know if it works on froyo cuz i havent tested it... im not sure if it works at all but its something. giving you the link cuz i dont like devs who are keeping secrets from us... thats not fair :mad: anyway can some1 test it?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] hodostamas:
not working... its causing bootloop.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] jazux:
talking abt JIT?
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Pauri:
Ty will yest it of im on computer
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Mr.Gamer:
you can't use those libs from that post, since your device with 2.2 jpm will bootlock

ALL jpm releases seems to have already the bins and libs there, kyrillos also put the jit enabling string in build.prop, but doesn't seem to work.

Probably we need to recompile the libs/bins to make them run or copy the ones found in similar devices (EX: lg optimus one)

Doing so will probably brick the phone and make you need to reflash, be cautious
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Y0RGI:
Don't test it cuz that not working.

Causing boot-looping - nothing else.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] tgm28:
with 1,3 OC my phone is stop responding and it freezes :( Max best OC is 1Ghz

Wait for JIT or search it :P on web
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] JackStow:
i dont know why ppl who uses JIT on g3 dont share with us, everybody wants JIT, and searching for wrong things may cause a bricked software.. i rly dont know why keep it in secret.. ;/
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] tgm28:
Because guys from KARMA-Project are work very hard and we respect that
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] JackStow:
i know they are working hard, mota is my friend also.. but, i mean, searching for jit and using wrong methods, may cause some troubles.. I dont think that sharing this will underestimate their work, since some users already uses jit and karma isnt working only in jit
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] jazux:
yes everybody knows that but still thats no reason to keep it secret from us... :mad:
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] tgm28:
Just think it about:

If we give to people how to install JIT, that every custom rom will have it and apocalyspe will be another custom rom. Now people are waiting for apocalypse which is the best rom and it have everything.