yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD General] :
Is it correct that the 12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2 RIL is HTC-RIL 2.2.0131HM?

From Terminal:

su

getprop "gsm.version.ril-impl"
[Desire HD General] amresh:
When flashing new ROM, you don't need flash radio again but you do need to update RIL files.
[Desire HD General] amresh:
Yes it is correct.
[Desire HD General] :
if they are dated 2008 (which is the default) then most probably they did NOT change.

The 3 so files you want to look for are

libhtc_ril.so

libreference-ril.so

libril.so

all 3 should be dated with todays date, as the RILD in system/bin
[Desire HD General] TAGTRAUM:
My steps

1. Flash Radio (fastboot) 12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2

2. WITHOUT rebooting after flashing process go into recovery (mine is 3.0.0.6) and flash RILD Binary ZIP

3. Reboot and check info (RILInfos.apk or terminal).....Your RIL must be HTC-RIL 2.2.0131HM
[Desire HD General] a user:
i flashed once the ril for the 26.8.3... radio over my leedroid rom 2.2.3. i still had the date at (i think) 2008. BUT i checked with diff and hash if they were the same and they were. i seems to me that after a succesfull flashing the date is not updated, at least not always.

maybe cwm does not touch the timestamp?
[Desire HD General] Tones1971:
Can i use the rils with MIUI gingerbread? Radio shouldnt be a problem.
[Desire HD General] ivolol:
They should be compatible, but they might be named differently.

Without looking at the files to confirm, the RIL file in use in these zips should be something like htcril.lib

This might be renamed to something different in MIUI; look at the build.prop and search for ril to find one of the properties that tells it what file to look for.

Then just grab the ril from the zip, rename it, and replace it on your phone's memory. Remember to backup the old file incase it doesn't work.
[Desire HD General] amresh:
Yes you can.
[Desire HD General] amresh:
Its strange but I don't know why. When you flash package through recovery, files modification date doesn't change but they are replaced for sure. But when you replace files using root explorer, files modification date changes.
[Desire HD General] kalagas:
So most of people flashed the RIL_12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2 or RIL_WITH_RILD_BINARY_12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2 with latest radio???

I am asking cause i am confused caused until now i used to flash only the radio.img and now with all these RIL i don't know which is better to flash and why it's necessary to flash also the RIL_12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2 or the RIL_WITH_RILD_BINARY_12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2 with latest radio???

Thanks...
[Desire HD General] eliashadow:
Ril connecting somehow the radio with the rom(kernel)..

But im confused which ril must be flash too...
[Desire HD General] amresh:
I am not very much aware about radio interface compatibility with radio either. But many people said they got better result with paired RIL (such as battery life, data signal strength, wifi signal strength and gps performance). There is no harm to flash RIL for sure (if they are from same base). My advice would be, you flash radio followed by RIL (definitely better choice than flashing radio alone).
[Desire HD General] TAGTRAUM:
I flashed both of RIL's & radio.img...."RIL_WITH_RILD_BINARY" gives me updated info in RILInfos.apk & "RIL_" update my lib files in /system/lib with nowadays timestamp
[Desire HD General] kalagas:
So if you don't flash the latest leak ROM, you don't have to flash RIL, right???
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
It is ok without the friggin' rild, why did somebody decide to complain about it being left out?? It just confuses people. Proper RIL is now in my RIL thread.
[Desire HD General] eliashadow:
Thats right...But people here tell that is better to flash the correct RIL with any radio...

But with this radio which RIL of both is better???
[Desire HD General] amresh:
So shall I remove RILD link then?
[Desire HD General] kalagas:
The name of the .zip file for latest RIL in your RIL thread is incorrect...

It says RIL_12.35d.60.140f_26.08.03.07_M.zip
[Desire HD General] eliashadow:
+1....thats right...
[Desire HD General] ehsan76:
RIL Verification??

I have flashed this latest Radio as everyone else but didnt flash the RIL as the Radio is supposed to be extracted from the same Rom that I am using.

However I did check it on my previous Rom and also flashed the RIL file and the RILinfo application told me that I have this RIL installed: 2.2.0131HM Mar 18 2011.

Now that I am on the Rom based on latest built it shows me the same RIL version.

Can anyone confirm if this is the latest RIL and is the same one that is available in the OP??

Thanks in advance...

Ehsan
[Desire HD General] panart:
RIL for Radio 26.08.03.07_M and 26.09.04.11_M2 is the same (HTC-RIL 2.2.0131HM).
[Desire HD General] amresh:
I extracted RIL from 2.36.405.5 base but seems both RIL are same.
[Desire HD General] kgulruh:
Yes , should admit downloaded upper one and checked md5 by lower one :o
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
It is the same RIL. I just cannot update link, I am on a vacation. Trust me it works.
[Desire HD General] zepp3lin:
I'm using Mikes cooking rom ARHD, as far as I'm concern regarding radios you don't really need that RILS. Mike RILS is already super damn good, it works with most radios.

The previous radio that amresh posted work fine and it's super good with good batt life and powerfull 3G and GPS connection. So I'm still sticking to 12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M. Why should I break it when it work damn well for my DHD in my country.

No harm trying though.... :)
[Desire HD General] kalagas:
Ok i flashed it...

The 3 .so files showing the date 01 aug 08 but i checked it with the getprop "gsm.version.ril-impl" and it gave me the HTC-RIL 2.2.0131HM (Mar 18 2011,00:40:15) result, so everything seems ok and i don't care about the date didn't changed...
[Desire HD General] kalagas:
lol..... you speak and answer to yourselfe in the same time... I like it...
[Desire HD General] kgulruh:
No harm whatsoever,

GPS locks instantly and accuracy about 20m

Best of all that I used

Should try it in MIUI also

Signal strength never was -83 dBm 15 asu before

my connectbot does not tore down when incoming or outgoing calls been made

Thats my final one...

But no harm trying though...:p
[Desire HD General] kuceens007:
On stanby battery is strongly 2 or 3ma.on music its 65 ma,wifi plus music plus browser 130ma,wifi plus xda app plus youtube 250ma i will test further.i m on cm 7
[Desire HD General] andreasy:
How could possibly the RIL be correct?

I flashed radio 12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2 + RIL_12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2 and as others have mentioned, I see that I have: ril 2.2.0.131HM (Mar 18 2011)

According to this article: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1040986 that info relates to RIL_12.35d.60.140f_26.08.03.07_M. Some said that they have the same RIL but is that confirmed?

In general, I don't notice any problems except something that a few people reported, it takes too long to get the first signal after rebooting. 5 times longer than before.
[Desire HD General] panart:
Both radio 26.08.03.07_M and 26.09.04.11_M2 use the same RIL 2.2.0.131HM

Read post #166, 167 and 168 in this page
[Desire HD General] dstenc:
Flashed yesterday new radio:12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 and the corresponding RIL.

So far everything works fine except GPRS connection.

In some cases, depending how I try to connect, GPRS connection starts, lasts 2-3 seconds and disconnects. In other cases I get msg that APN is not defined, but when I enter APN settings, everything is as it was before when it worked fine.

I've flashed back to previous Radio ROM and now GPRS works fine.

I'm on CoreDroid v5.4 with Sense.

Does anyone had similar problems with GPRS connection? And what might cause it?

Edit: Just reflashed back to 12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 and now GPRS works fine. Interesting ...
[Desire HD General] jerrylzy:
It works better than 12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M

Thanks,,
[Desire HD General] kuceens007:
Me too for this
[Desire HD General] ankuritgo:
flashed today morning, just battery consumption seems to be an issue on 3g , still testing full charged phone dead in like 10 hours on medium usage strange
[Desire HD General] :
In Europe the DHD update with Android 2.3 is now provided with radio 12.54.60.25U_26.09.04.11_M2 instead of 12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2.

Does anyone know where to get this new radio for my CyanogenMod phone?
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
It is the same radio. That letter depends on ROM, U is HSPA+ enabled, and P is disabled.
[Desire HD General] andreasb29:
Sorry for my question, I know what a Radio is, but what is a RIL?
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
Read the first post of RIL thread instead of asking.
[Desire HD General] :
or follow this link
[Desire HD General] adjeh:
Question about HSPA+ enabled:

Is it ok when HSPA+ is enabled on a DHD in Europe or is there a chance that the connection gone bad?
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
It is not a problem, it is only a positive thing :)
[Desire HD General] :
So if I understand it correctly, CyanogenMod is not HSPA+ enabled.

Which ROM is HSPA+ enabled, besides the HTC stock ROM?
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
Well I have never tried CyanogenMod's stable builds. It may also depend on network. For example Android Revolution HD has HSPA+ enabled.
[Desire HD General] irwige:
is HSPDA+ different to HSPDA(vanilla)? I always get the little "H" logo when i download data on Vodafone Australia, no idea if its "+" though...
[Desire HD General] danalive:
Hi shadowboy23,

I'm in Melbourne, had the same issues with GPS lock. It did lock, but after 5 minutes searching (I have GPS Status installed).

Still experiencing issues?

Dan.
[Desire HD General] KaZo58:
hmm strange.. have the latest rom and flashed the latest RIL but it says 2.2.0099HM òÓ or it doesnt work on CM7 n66 ?

EDIT: mount /system first ^^ it works fine
[Desire HD General] fcosin:
I've flashed past night this radio, and after installed the ril files, all went right, but at System Info it shows, as baseband this:

12.54.60.25U_26.09.04.11_M2

Maybe it's because I'm at Spain, maybe not, what do you think?
[Desire HD General] adjeh:
It is the same radio. That letter depends on ROM, U is HSPA+ enabled, and P is disabled.

Question about HSPA+ enabled:

it is ok when HSPA+ is enabled on a DHD in Europe.
[Desire HD General] fcosin:
Thnaks adjeh, network coverage has increased a lot inside home, where it was almost without signal.
[Desire HD General] hisheeraz:
Flashing this radio and ril had not made any difference to my 3g Reciption. It is still showing no bars at my home :( any other suggestion?

EDIT

also now my cuts off in tunnel never used to be the case with stock ril :(
[Desire HD General] Madala_ZA:
Hi, just sharing the obvious (or not-so-obvious).. in GPS Status make sure you reset and re-download from the tools menu: Menu >> Tools >> Manage A-GPS state >> Reset >> Download

This made a big difference for me, I get GPS lock in seconds.
[Desire HD General] atifhasan86:
Which one to use, already on 26.09.04.11_M2???

Hi

am on LeeDroid 3.0.3 with Lee's Kernel and he recommends the same radio as 26.09.04.11_M2, which I'm using (but he didn't ask to flash the RIL file, dunno why ??) but my battery performance is not satisfactory, gets down to 15-20% in 13 hrs:eek:.

so which radio would you recommend me to try :confused: ??

should i try this one 26.08.03.07_M (the extracted version) coz battery backup is very important to me. :(
[Desire HD General] itais:
GPS signal drops when I get a call

Hi,

I have a new DHD with LeeDroid 3.0.3 + Kernel 3.1.2.

Also I have Radio 12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2, But I am having GPS signal drops when I get a call :mad:

Have you tested radio 12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M for this problem ??

Do you recommend a different Radio.

thank you in advance,

Itai.
[Desire HD General] no_johnr:
The reason a radio is "recommended" when using (insert name) ROM, is that the RILs for that radio is already included ;)
[Desire HD General] itais:
I also installed the RIL via Clockwork in recovery mode.

So The Radio and RIL files are both of the same version.

Itai.
[Desire HD General] Sonnyhood:
Has anyone tested this with Gingerbread?

12.54 seems to be causing me problems, and i assume it is radio related.

Im using LeeDroid-3.1.1 + 3.1.2k

I am interested in using 12.28 radio but with facilities of Gingerbread.

My assumption after reading closely is i can install the RIL and reflash radio still using my same ROM, which is set for 12.54. So long as i use the corresponding RIL for 12.28 or 12.35 im safe for any ROM is choose.

If i sound a little confused i am.

Any ideas?
[Desire HD General] m3n3chm0:
Dear guys,

I'm using my desire HD under Cyanogenmod 7.0.3... today i've update it to the radio version 12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2... then i download the RIL for this version... see below :

RADIO_12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2

Zip file md5: 2f857dde8717543faf8324312407dc22

Radio md5: 2dc4cfc01516d71c8d68ac2c5e2feda0

RIL_12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2

Zip file md5: 73da9abed9f9c054cbb21548b45d716c

But when i put in terminal emulator:

getprop "gsm.version.ril-impl"

I get HTC-RIL 2.2.0099HM (Jan 27 2011,16:12:49) instead of HTC-RIL 2.2.0131HM (Mar 18 2011,00:40:15) ???????????
[Desire HD General] Madala_ZA:
You must mount /system in cwm when flashing a RIL. Otherwise it won't flash..
[Desire HD General] m3n3chm0:
I open the ROM MANAGER... go to reboot in recovery mode... then i select the RIL ... after some seconds .. update complete.

I just reboot and check the RIL in terminal but the RIL version does not match.... as i said in my previous post :(
[Desire HD General] Madala_ZA:
You're not mounting system. So, follow these steps:

Reboot into recovery

Scroll down to "mounts and storage"

Select "mounts and storage"

Scroll down to "mount /system"

Select "mount /system"

Install zip (RIL) from sd card

Reboot

Enjoy new RIL :)
[Desire HD General] m3n3chm0:
Thank you so much :D ¡¡
[Desire HD General] Madala_ZA:
No problem, we all went through the same heartache in our love affair with Android at some time ;)
[Desire HD General] amresh:
Added new radio 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M to OP.
[Desire HD General] zepp3lin:
Thanks, will review these radio in a while....

edit:

Ok install it with the recomended ril file.

I get the same results as 12.54.60.25.....

Guess I just stick with the new flash radio....

Can someone confirm this : I got HTC-RIL 2.2.0153HM (Apr 22 2011, 14:09:20)... is this the correct ril file.....
[Desire HD General] amresh:
Yes its correct.:)
[Desire HD General] jumar:
For RIL serves as installed?
[Desire HD General] amresh:
I could not get you :(.
[Desire HD General] Nandeh:
Somebody can upload the last Radio to any other server? Dropbox is disabled :(

Thanks!! :)
[Desire HD General] m3n3chm0:
Last Radio + RIL uploaded to MEDIAFIRE

Hi,

I just upload the last radio + RIL to Mediafire.

Radio http://www.mediafire.com/file/8j9ir38p79pz62i/PD98IMG.zip

RIL http://www.mediafire.com/file/hf8ycls4cj3og54/RIL_12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03_M.zip

:)

Radio_12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M

Zip file md5: 409b1513fea709247a2e99cc5e8895e9

Radio md5: 774b9ddeef6ce76dd8191b6ca2397cda

RIL_12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M

Zip file md5: 70a757613992e2ddc78c3e611c11fe51
[Desire HD General] Nandeh:
Thanks mate! :)
[Desire HD General] amresh:
Due to heavy download traffic, my dropbox account was disabled temporarily. I have added addition multiupload link for all my archives.
[Desire HD General] indanl:
I use

26.10.04.03_m

radio I checked the ril and it shows

HTC RIL 2.2.0153HM

is this correct RIL?:confused:
[Desire HD General] amresh:
Yes, its correct.
[Desire HD General] amresh:
New radio added to first post.
[Desire HD General] Careless_:
I have Virtuous Unity 1.29.0 installed... can I use this radio on my Desire Z/Vision? Unity has this specific RIL file within the rom already, correct?

I've flashed Vision_RADIO_12.28h.60.140f_26.06.02.27_M before... does this 12.59 version work on the Vision as well?
[Desire HD General] amresh:
No idea mate. This radio was released for Desire HD, not sure if this works on other devices. Its not recommended until some expert suggests.
[Desire HD General] wikie:
hello,

I wanted to ask you whether I am allowed one ril flash even when the nightly?

I have the nightly141 and my radio is Radio_12.59.60.26U_26.11.04.21m

sorry for my bad english

thank you
[Desire HD General] sigurd_LU:
You use CM7 nightlies, right? And you're asking wether you should flash the RIL after installing a new nightly or not? No, there's no need to, the nightly builds contain the right RIL already.
[Desire HD General] lukesan:
Ok this is getting confusing.

I just flashed the latest radio from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1178843 on my miui

Now checking on the DHD it says.

12.59.60.26P_26.11.04.21_M

Now I see everyones signature here with a U and mine shows a P.

Did I miss something?
[Desire HD General] amresh:
This has already been discussed in this thread. I don't remember why but you can search in previous posts.
[Desire HD General] lukesan:
Wow, had to go down a couple of pages more.

All these numbers make things extreemly confusing. :D
[Desire HD General] amresh:
Don't bother about P or U, it depends on various factors :).
[Desire HD General] onesolo:
such as ??
[Desire HD General] amresh:
That is already explained into thread. You can find few post back.
[Desire HD General] wikie:
many thanks sigurd_LU:D
[Desire HD General] gongoscho:
Hi,

I flash this radio and i the system information shows the 12.54.60.25U_26.09.04.11_M2 and not 12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2:

Can anybody help me?
[Desire HD General] LorD ClockaN:
this letters depends on your mobile provider and what is MAX allowed speed on mobile data..

nothing to worry about!
[Desire HD General] gongoscho:
Hmm, my provider support HSPA+, LTE :confused:
[Desire HD General] m3n3chm0:
Is the new RIL already confirmed / OK for the new Radio ?¿¿??¿
[Desire HD General] zdalin2003:
Then you should get the one with P

In addition you can check if HSPA is enabled by opening /system/build.prop with a text editor/viewer and check if ro.ril.hsxpa=3 (if it's 3, you have hspa enabled).

U is for HSDPA (U is shown if ro.ril.hsxpa=2)

P is for HSPA+
[Desire HD General] zdalin2003:
I flashed it earlier today and I can see an improvement in WiFi connection range.

Current draw is 3-4mA with ~80mA spikes about once every hour.

So radio/ril combination seems to be working fine.

I'm on ARHD 5.2.3, baseband version reported: 12.59.30.26P_26.11.04.21_M
[Desire HD General] m3n3chm0:
if you put in Terminal Emulator --> getprop gsm.version.ril-impl

you get this HTC-RIL 2.2.0160HM (jun 3 2011, 23:41:59) ???
[Desire HD General] zdalin2003:
yeah, i get the same thing.
[Desire HD General] jilee:
I'm using Miui rom, so do i have to flash RIL? I read in the "old" OP that RIL flashing is not recommended for MIUI rom right? Thank you
[Desire HD General] zdalin2003:
As Drakknar wrote on the first post of this thread...

...no
[Desire HD General] balinh_bs:
i'm using radio 12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2 on miui rom. Can i use radio 12.59.60.26U_26.11.04.21_M? If I change, I have see problem?
[Desire HD General] a user:
as lord clockn said, and meanwhile others confirmed... YES ;)

you can flash that also on miui but make sure to mount /system in ther ecovery BEFORE flashing the ril zip!
[Desire HD General] m3n3chm0:
OK, so the RIL we've installed now is the same for the previous RADIO+RIL About radio 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M ....

:confused:
[Desire HD General] zdalin2003:
Ok, so we've got the same ril... which is wierd.

Try this command: getprop gsm.version.baseband

i get the 12.59... one
[Desire HD General] zdalin2003:
ok, i tried modifying ro.ril.hsxpa to 2 (so i get 12.59.60.26U_...) and i tried reflashing the ril.

Same thing, getprop gsm.version.ril-impl gets HTC-RIL 2.2.0160HM (Jun 3 2011,23:41:59), which is for RIL_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2

P.S.: for reference, RIL list here

L.E.: first impression after changing to U is that i'm getting better battery :eek:

Current drain seems to be 1-2mA
[Desire HD General] m3n3chm0:
Yes... i also get 12.59 in the baseband... (RADIO)... it's strange having the same RIL that in the previous RADIO :)
[Desire HD General] a user:
i must correct my statement on flashing rils on miui:

actually you can do it (either by copy the libs with root explorer, set ownership/rights or by maually mounting system in recovery and then flashing the zip) but they cause big trouble!

after booting with the new rils (tried two different ril version) first all looked fine. but switching screen off and then on again showed no apn connection, no mobile data and impossible to switch it on again. mobile data/apn was broken.

so you can flash them but any other ril than the one you get with miui brakes mobile.
[Desire HD General] amresh:
Missed to update first post :D. Yes its confirmed now.
[Desire HD General] m3n3chm0:
This RIL seems to be exactly the same as one of the previous version radio ..... :confused:

HTC-RIL 2.2.0160HM (Jun 3 2011,23:41:59)

RIL_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2............HTC-RIL 2.2.0160HM (Jun 3 2011,23:41:59)

Have you checked this ¿?
[Desire HD General] DEGE:
I'm getting strange RIL version as well, and yes, I did flash the new RIL from recovery;

gsm.version.baseband	12.59.60.26U_26.11.04.21_M

gsm.version.ril-impl	HTC-RIL 2.2.0131HM (Mar 18 2011,00:40:15)

Any clues?

Edit: Updated the ril-files with root explorer, it now gives me:

gsm.version.ril-impl	HTC-RIL 2.2.0160HM (Jun 3 2011,23:41:59)

..which I believe might be the lastet RIL*

*RIL = Radio Interface Layer (HTC Specific Layer used for interface the radio from the OS)
[Desire HD General] zdalin2003:
No point in doing that... I'm really happy with gsm signal, wifi signal (which has better reception range now) and battery life - right now i'm at 43% and 1d 5h 52min since last charge.
[Desire HD General] m3n3chm0:
YES !!!! ... i've checked this week a better signal WIFI and battery life :)
[Desire HD General] zdalin2003:
Got this after a few days of battery testing:

- Still had 16% charge when i took the screenshot

- Screen brightness was not minimal (so I could see the screen outside on a sunny day)

- Now this is without having mobile data on, because I don't need it. Whenever I need to update weather, facebook or mails, i just connect to data/wifi and download it.

- I did play games on it (you can see Sacred Odyssey there)

- Used gps for about 2hrs

- Used google skymap for 3-4hrs

- Used remote webdesktop to get files to it without charging

In conclusion, I used the phone as I would normally use it. It just doesn't consume as much battery in standby/sleep mode.

The downside is that it drains battery a lot faster when you don't have gsm signal (compared to radio 12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2), but it does perform excellent when you do ;)
[Desire HD General] zachs_xda:
mount("MTD", "system", "/system") seems to be the problem.

Some ROMs don't have proper /proc/mtd to list the partitions.

use this instead:
[Desire HD General] Mullicious:
Which would you reccomend for the latest CM Nightly?
[Desire HD General] zdalin2003:
As far as i can remember, cm doesn't recommend flashing radios on it, so just use the one it has.

LE: sorry about that, i was thinking about miui

you can try it, and if it's not working ok you can revert to previous version.
[Desire HD General] a user:
Don't flash RILs on miui and neither on cm7. miui is based on cm7 btw.!

you can use different radios but do not change the ril!!!!!

i am using this newest radio on miui with (in my case) best results over all other radios.

for all other NEVER FLASH RILS ON MIUI OR CM7
[Desire HD General] kejiss:
prejudice which radio is better for Italy? thanks
[Desire HD General] amresh:
Added new radio 12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M from DHD GB sense 3.0 base.
[Desire HD General] monkeyrasta.702:
Which ruu?
[Desire HD General] amresh:
3.06.405.1, DHD sense 3.0 official release I believe.
[Desire HD General] monkeyrasta.702:
Thx
[Desire HD General] mustafa.aziz:
What about flashable ril for the same radio ??
[Desire HD General] kuklux:
Any test for new radio feedback pls?
[Desire HD General] amresh:
Yes they are from same base.