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[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
Yeah except this isn't star wars, this is real. I doubt he's going to become some sort of martyr or create any "new smart hackers" for cracking Sony's ecryption. He has a long way to go if he wants to become another Kevin Mitnick.
[EVO 4G General] donharden2002:
This is nothing more than Sony pushing their muscle around, being a big bullie.

I've gotten rid of my ps3 over this and will never buy another product that is made by them or one of their partners.

Message to Sony: you are doing nothing but ruining your rep over this. What your basically saying to the public that supports you is f-off. We like the USGovt are so big that we can do whatever we want, but don't you try it. If you do we will hang you.

So my message to sony is basically this, by putting on a witch hunt for one person you will be losing way more than you will ever gain from this lawsuit. Sony, go to hell, take your products back to China And keep them there.

F.U.
[EVO 4G General] Zoidpilot:
I just read through this entire list of posts and though I agree and disagree with many of your valid arguments, I was looking for how this ties into my Evo. I mean sure it has to do with hacking and modding but, this (although a very good post) I think belongs in a different section. Or maybe I'm just plain crazy I can live with that.
[EVO 4G General] neutral:
That's called lag, it happens in online gaming. That has nothing to do with hacking.
[EVO 4G General] 12MaNy:
Wtf does this have to do with an Evo? Lol
[EVO 4G General] willy900wonka:
I'm reading though this feeling bad for Geohot, when it hits me: this thread aught to be saved for posterity in a gaming museum.

I have this feeling that Sony is going to have this issue reflect back at them very soon. Why would anyone buy a radioactive gaming system?

Evo 3d should encompass a geiger counter sensor to detect any random isotopes. I think a new date code evo app would add protection...
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
You sound like every single person on the Black Ops forums that has been banned for jailbreaking his ps3. Who cares if you get rid of your ps3 and never buy ps3 items again.

Sure, sony will lose a handful of people over this, it will be minimal and would pale in comparison to the number they would lose if they didn't do something about all the hacks/cheating online.

They aren't gonna lose their butt over this, you can preach it.. but you know it isn't true.
[EVO 4G General] rugedraw:
Good point, but I know the difference between lag and BS. I would watch the kill cam after my deaths, and you could plainly see my bullets hitting them and they wouldn't die. At home, I have Comcast with 20Mbps going down and almost instant ping times (which is more important than download speeds for online gaming). I've tethered my PS3 off of my phone and experienced lag and I see in the death cam that where I thought I was shooting someone, I really wasn't because my connection was lagging.

Cheating has no place in online gaming......period. I don't think the hammer should be brought down on this kid because of what some other people did with his exploit, but this isn't the first or the last time that a big company goes after a little guy to make an example. Someone mentioned that the PS3 is a "dictator", but you can swap out hard drives yourself, online gaming is free, it works as media player, 3D Blu-ray player, etc. as is. I think the Xbox community faces more of a dictatorship from Microsoft than PS3 users do from Sony, but that's just me. Me knowing that Sony takes cheating as serious as it does is actually a selling point for me because I know they are doing something about the cheaters as opposed to Xbox who doesn't do a damn thing AND has more users on it which means more cheaters are on there, too.

With that said, I wish the kid the best of luck and I hope when his case with Sony is over, he comes to the world of Android and devs for us, instead. lol
[EVO 4G General] comprog2000:
I never said wall hacks or the like were enhanced gameplay. There are plenty of legitamate ways to mod games without cheating.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Describe a "legit mod", I'm curious..

Nobody is complaining about "legitimate mods". Even so, if it wasn't intended to be used the way you are using it by Sony, then how can you really complain if it gets wiped out with the mods that do allow cheating? It is an unfortunate side effect for the people who had modded ps3s that weren't cheating.. I agree. I just don't think they can't separate them.
[EVO 4G General] OneStepAhead:
ill take free games over online play any day of the week. go geohot!
[EVO 4G General] OneStepAhead:
changing the way things look for example
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Like I said, you're free to find a way to hack your ps3 that only benefits you personally. If you never go online and never sell Sonys code, then you'll be fine.

You don't like online gaming, that's fine. I do. It doesn't make me better or any cooler than you by any means.. but I'm not gonna accept that my experience is going to be ruined because some people wanna change the way their games look.
[EVO 4G General] frontay:
I read about this story the other day, I actually never knew it was going on lol. I love my ps3, I'm glad Sony is handling this the way they are. I am not good at video games, so I'm pretty happy if I get over 5 kills in Black Ops. Cheating is bad, and its even worse for ****ty gamers such as myself, it makes us frustrated, and just turn off the ps3.
[EVO 4G General] :
This thread has nothing to do with the Evo. Its just interesting. Sony needs to keep popping out security updates instead of introducing new features no one uses.

Sent from Darth Stewies' Evolution aboard the Death Star!
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
The real issue is Sony does not have the talent to out hack Geo or any other hacker who destroys their "security" measures. They put too little effort before the 'keys' were unlocked. Now they have pie on their face and are going after Geo because they are butt-hurt and have a lot of money.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Sorry, no. Sony created the PSN and the PS3 OS.. Geo hacked it, he didn't create something near as complex as Sony.. he just hacked it.

Virtually everything is hackable... it's a lame excuse to blame Sony for being hacked.

Every Bank is able to be robbed, every piece of candy is able to be stolen, every person walking can be killed by someone else... is that their fault too?
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
yea... I think thats pretty obvious Geo did not create the OS or PSN. Not sure what you were getting at here.

I can tell you one company who was in a similar situation and they out maneuvered the hackers. DirectTV.

What a terrible analogy.

Here is a better one; Do we prosecute gun manufactures when criminals use their guns in a crime? No. They go after the actual criminal. Geo did not create the COD mods or w/e other gaming mods exist. You know as well as I do there will be other Geo's no matter the platform.

See the issue is human condition. Some humans are compelled to not follow some imaginary rules. Remember America's forefathers? I wonder how things would have turned out if they followed the rules.

Anyway,

Geo proclaimed he did the hacks due to home brewing purposes. A noble cause. If he had an ulterior motive that is all speculation.

Bottom line is if you want to protect your product/s be smart about it. All what Sony is doing is hurting one guy who one of many. All they are doing is stirring the ant hive.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
You said Sony was mad because Geo did something they couldn't. Geo didn't create it, Sony did. Geo used Sonys code and made a profit from it. Your defense can't seriously be "Geo did something Sony couldn't". Maybe they can stop Geo, maybe they can't. It isn't a battle of "Who is the better code man" ! This isn't power rangers, there is no need for them to waste time and resources trying to "out hack" one guy.

Good for them, maybe Sony can learn something. Sonys security issues are a different debate. Yea they need to tighten up, still doesn't mean anyone has a right to hack and steal their code for personal gain.

About as bad as blaming Sony for being hacked. You actually proved my point. Blaming Sony for being hacked would be like blaming the gun for someone being shot. Geo used Sonys code and made a profit from it, he isn't be prosecuted, he's being sued.

blah blah blah

Oh please. He knew what he was doing and was others would do with his jailbreak. He also knew he shouldn't make money off of Sonys code. He still did it.

How do I protect my product from online play? There's nothing I can do to my ps3 that allows me to avoid the hackers than have infested these online games... except not play. Why should I give that right up? I don't have to. This lawsuit proves it
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
Yea, they were mad they could not out maneuver him on their system.

He received donations for his efforts on the iPhone/PS3 jailbreaking front. I suppose you don't support any Dev's on this website that root phones that have security measures?

lolwut

They are suing him because the jailbreaks. Which is due to their security measures.

Again he received donations. He did not sell his efforts. Some people on these forums can't make that distinction, aka Donorware.

Sounds like you already made up your mind on his intentions. Glad you are not the judge for the lawsuit.

Sounds like PSN has to run a tighter ship. Modders are less rampant on XBL.

The real solution to all of this modding on FPS is to bring back dedicated servers. Having someone there to instant kick or ban someone from a room is what empowered hosters back in the XBL 1.0, CS days.

What I find humorous is that most of the rage comes from those playing FPS. No one really cares what mod exist on other genres.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Posted by another user in this thread.

The difference between this site and what's going on in the PSN is we aren't using anything to destroy the user experience for thousands of other people, otherwise we might get locked down too.

Sony is using every legal method to stop this, I'm sure they don't liek him making money off of their code.. but if it didn't cause a tsunami of problems for their entire customer base of users that play online... then they might not be pressing this as hard. They may have just sent him a cease and desist.

How would you like it if you created something so complex and so great that millions of people bought and used it and then one guy decided that you took away a feature you shouldn't have so he hacks it and not only makes money from your work, but, also enables countless other hacks that piss off damn near every one of your customers (except those that do the hacks)?

You can say whatever you want about Sony, but they have to protect their business by protecting their customer base.

It's like everyone says, there has been and likely always will be some form of hacking the online play. It's just never been as bad as it was before they patched the jailbreak, not even close. Why do you think they haven't went after anyone else as hard? We aren't talking one or two cheaters here and there.. no, games like MW2 had virtually every lobby full of cheaters.

Yea it may only be hurting the FPS games right now, so what? What's your point? It would have only been a matter of time before it got to every online game. It's mainly an issue in FPS shooter games because they are the main type of game on a console where you are going against other players so much.. besides sports games which are usually one on one.
[EVO 4G General] rugedraw:
Not the same. You don't root/jailbreak a phone to compete unfairly with other people. Given, it's a video game and I get that, but people have a very competitive nature even in video games and it's the equivalent to some athletes being on steroids and the rest of them aren't. And I am using this analogy in reference to cheating on games in specific......I don't have a problem with reverse compatibility or homebrew games or being able to dual-boot the PS3 into Linux or Sony's OS. However, if you can't have one without the other, than I would prefer nothing.

Yea, I agree that most complaints will be about FPS games, but that's because those are the ones that are most affected by it. If you try to cheat on.....let's say Gran Turismo 5....what are you gonna do? Get a Honda Civic and give it 100,000 horsepower? You'd get booted by the host in a second if he sees a Civic passing a Ferrari F50 like it is parked. lol In a fast paced FPS, it's harder to tell when someone is cheating and easier to get away with it when you do it.
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
One can argue the tethering hacks, PRL hacks etc could effect Sprint and their customer base. Ask Shrooms lol

If he did infact SOLD their code and not simply received donations I would agree with Sony's actions.

And they are well within their rights. Their method of doing so is debatable.

See I think it got out of hand because of the way Sony went about it. If they focused on banning cheaters/modders/banning consoles instead pushing out software updates everytime Geo or whoever came out with a Jailbreak they would have more success. It became a one-uping game for both of them. Sony saw there was no end just playing that game. And once Geo kept going deeper and deeper he found the golden nugget.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
And At&T is already cracking down on that by sending messages to iphone users. It's only a matter of time now I guess.. but still, that's not the same. I agree with you to a point here tho.

Well then it sounds like Sony was giving everyone involved a chance to stop by patching their hacks. Geo apparently kept going deeper and deeper.. basicly sending a big 'eff you" to Sony. I think one reason why they didn't want homebrew apps because they also posed some security threats...but it doesn't matter. It was Sonys choice to get rid of them. I would grow tired of constantly battling someone who was doing something he shouldn't be doing in the first place.

Sony is now banning the crap out of hackers, console bans to, which means you can only get online again if you buy a new ps3. So you're still free to do whatever you want to your ps3.. but if it starts hurting my online experience.. you'll be banned. I agree with that method.
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
I remember when they first removed the option to install a linux distro on the console. There was a big uproar about it. Their main motivation was to stop what was rampant today.

I think banning a console and forcing someone to drop another $300 for another is more of a deterrent than dropping patches all day just to thwart hackers/jailbreakers. Plus it helps profits.
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
I recall a PRL hack somewhere...

Guess I should read the rest of the posts before chiming in :D
[EVO 4G General] KB112:
This could be an endless debate.

Sent from my Evo "Z" unit on xda app.
[EVO 4G General] Zabalba:
Most morally controversial topics are.
[EVO 4G General] ECrispy:
Its sad that the justice system basically exists to serve corporations, and they don't even pretend to uphold individual rights and be fair.

It doesn't matter if what he did was morally right/wrong - legally, he committed a crime. But it should not be possible to tear apart his entire personal life and ask for completely unrelated evidence.
[EVO 4G General] :
If anybody is making a profit out of this jailbreak its these guys http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/adult/ps3-brew-pro_mtxl.html

Why don't Sony sue them instead ? And yes I do realise they didn't create the jailbreak but they are making a profit from selling it.

Sent from my HTC Desire
[EVO 4G General] ins0dus:
The Judge is Getting Paid Off

LOL.. wow Sony really needs the Money now.. They should worry less about GEO and more about helping their country ....

Also I think the judge is being bribed with Sont 3d TV's
[EVO 4G General] twilk73:
Sony should give him a job. For the next six months as punishment hes gotta work free of charge. Works for Sony and him. He might end up with a job at Sony and Sony gets his talent to help with the next wave of updates to prevent these types of things.

I really hope Sony doesnt rail this kid and ruin his life. I mean I go both ways here I want the kid to learn his lesson but I dont want him to be destroyed hes 21 and we are in a new era where some hacking is ok and some isnt.

For instance I am all for hacking products so you can get the full potential out of it. I am not for hacking first person shooters so you can cheat and beat someone in a match up online.

I bought my PS3 because I knew hackers where less obvious on this system. XBL is full of hacks and what not. PS3 didnt even get fully hacked until more recently. That being said someone mentioned Sony's crapy security measures. That is not true and you should check your facts before creating a false statement. Sony had the PS3 locked down online. XBL is known for all sorts of hacks online. I know the PS3 has been unlocked for a long time but it wasnt until more recently that its been fully unlocked for online hacks.

Like I said I go both ways. I think it should be leagle to unlock the PS3 but it shouldnt be leagle to play burnt games hack online or run emulators you do not own.

Sony is mad because if hack their system and you run burnt games your taking away from their profits. They dont make money on the system, the system sells for less then its valued so that you can affored it. They make money on the games and accessories. Your stealing from Sony when you run burnt games and that is against the law just like stealing pirated movies or songs.
[EVO 4G General] twilk73:
Dude I hope you're not taking a shot at Japan with that comment. They are suffering right now and need all the help they can get. No I am not saying they need money. They need more then that, they need a helping hand and a kind person to help them out.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
I agree with you on a lot of what you said, regardless of what happens.. Geo will not have his life ruined. He's too young and too smart.. if he tries, he can still lead a very successful life.

And Sony is doing the things they are doing because it is their only option "legally" right now. People have been playing burned ps3 games for a long time. Sony knew about it... they weren't really all that concerned about it so they didn't sue random people.

This situation recently became a huge mess for them, virtually ruining their PSN. People stealing games, hacking their online games all to heck.. it's just a mess and it had to be dealt with harshly.

The next person that decides he wants to do what Geo did will definitely think twice about it after this, and that's the point.
[EVO 4G General] ramiss:
They have my money and it is supposed to be for developing great games and systems.

And by the way...Hackers are supposed to be bettering the community by going against the corporations, not screwing both sides.

Sent from my device.

Sent from my device.
[EVO 4G General] Gilly11277:
Sooo many different ideas. Fact is, they would get more done if they cracked down on the players that are cheating...its never going to stop, jail/charge all the hackers you want its not going to change anything. Hate on Geo all you want in the end its your decision to cheat online be accountable for YOUR actions. In my humble opinion Geo is an outstanding man offering great solutions for our once plain devices and systems! But in the end you choose to take it to the next level so really yeah his work is the root, but if everyone wasn't so retarded we wouldn't have these problems....think about it, who's doing more harm? The player thats ruining the ****? Or the developer who wants to give people the opportunity to do more on their devices in ways that harm nobody until the idiot player who lacks skill has to cheat cause he just sucks at everything???

For goodness sake sony could make hella profit off of his ideas, ****.together they would be a dynamic duo!

I'm sorry but more could be done if they cracked down on the malicious players or crackers with malicious intent, heck they could even create more jobs doing this, stimulate their economy.

And yes I said crackers, if there are any old time nerds in here you all remember how back in the day crackers were the "bad"guys and hackers were the ones just doing it cause they liked to just to explore with no malicious intent. I guess the general public liked the word hacker more lol.
[EVO 4G General] Gilly11277:
I consider Geo a hacker "good" and these ignorant of what this term even means crackers "bad" dumb kids who take Geo's great work that is just there hurting nobody and ****ting all over it with their suck!
[EVO 4G General] jasonleb1:
This is ridiculous. Yes, he jailbroke the PS3 but as far as we know he had no part in the hacks that are being used on that now jailbroken PS3. Should the man who invented the gun (if he were still alive) be arrested for every murder ever committed? No, that's idiotic.
[EVO 4G General] omnikam:
+1 totally agree

What I find more offensive is that companies like sony, Westinghouse, Lg and others help make weapons of mass destruction, yet are defended by the people. Next time a stray missile hits innocent people just think of the circuit board stamped Sony and think poor Sony! I guess it's just a holiday in Cambodia
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] Humpie:
I watched a movie on youtube about the gs2 and it surprised me that the sgs2 hasn't got any lock animation. that was just the best thing about gingerbread...
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] cantIntoCode:
It will probably easily added back into the framework. The gingerbread leak for the galaxy s had no screen off animation but it could be easily added back in :)
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] haroonazeem638:
Is there a way I can add that animation to my Samsung Captivate?
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] rel500:
Yeah. Flash a gingerbread rom. It's cooked in the 2.3 kernel so no, un can't have it on anything running other than 2.3
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] local_crack_dealer:
Yeah, the gingerbread update from motorola didn't have the lock screen animation added in, but after root was obtained, they got it added on without an issue.
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] Humpie:
Could you do the same with every other 2.3 rom?

How have you done it?
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] iconata:
LOL dude.. complaining about Galaxy S II not having a UNLOCK animation.. tell me you're not serious.. are you? that's so lame.. how could you EVEN START A THREAD about something soooooooooooooo minor that i'm sure noone (but you) has noticed it.. Galaxy S II has so many great features that make the device stand out in the crowd, so PLEASE dont complain.. so Galaxy S II doesnt have unlock animation.. are you 12-13 years old? if u are.. when you grow up start watching the hardware specs, screen resolution/size, built in memory.. those kind of things.. not unlock animations and such..
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] LesserCure:
I think that's because when there's nothing major to complain about, you see the little ones easier. :)
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] Humpie:
Its just: lock animation = gingerbread
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] dhruvmalik:
At least wait for the phone to be out in the market, then complain. Right now its just word of mouth from the critics.

I will not judge a device unless there is substantial information of a defect or a flaw.
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] NZtechfreak:
You can have the Old TV animation, just get "Screen Off and Lock" from the Android Market...

Its not quite as nice, but pretty close (check it out on youTube).
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] svortevik:
Any news about this? Really like the lock animation:-)
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] aussiebum:
the current SGS2 that just got released only has the standard Samsung lock screen. no one's put stock GB on the SGS2 yet.
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] esk02k:
Its an easy xml tweak, if i was rooted i would have done it by now :

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10239007&postcount=122
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] svortevik:
Can this be done with the original Galaxy S2 rom if I have root, or do I need a Custom rom or anything else?