yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] SquithyX:
There are a few ways of doing it:

If your home broadband connection is very slow then you could just download the rom on your phone using your data connection **as long as you have a good data contract** I use this way most of the time, and it works quite well.

If you have WiFi, connect your phone to the WiFi and download on phone.

Download it on your PC, if it taking a long time try a different download source...or leave it downloading over night / day / week / month / year....

Then there are options like plug your phone into your computer and download the rom on your phone using your PC's connection too.

Hope this helps
[HD2 General] shhbz:
look as far downloading is concerned it completely depends on the internet connnction u use but remember before instaling android dont forget read these thread .as it will help u installing android orelse u may end up bricking your phone

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=653614 for 1024 leo(t mobile)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=609477 for 512 leo(euro hd2)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=981811 (add on help)
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] emjakmaciej:
Hi,

I want to find out which apps drain my battery most. I'm looking for an app similar to systempanel full (which can determin those apps), but I don't have a credit card so I need it to be free.

Thanks in advance, cheers
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] white-energy:
Try "CurrentWidget" its available in the market.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] XenSA:
try this EXCELLENT app...

https://market.android.com/details?id=bt.android.elixir

it's also free....
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] sandworm:
I use Battery Monitor Widget.. you can check which parts of the OS are using your battery by going into Settings->About Phone->Battery->Battery Use
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] Ventfild:
"Battery Monitor Widget" by 3c06 is the best! or you can try "battery indicator"

find in market, free apps.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] brento1:
is anyone else having force close problems with battery monitor widget? At first it was okay not recently it has been acting up. I'm running it on americanandroid.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] reijkelhof:
You will notice an update of battery monitor widget has recently been released on market.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] brento1:
i think i just updated on friday but my problem was still there yesterday. i'll go and check it out again later. Maybe i'll just uninstall and reinstall it to make sure.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] brento1:
reijkelhof thanks! updated it and everything is good again. i must be thinking about my nook color that i updated over the weekend.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] blackbug1973:
As far as I know the "battery monitor widget" is one of the best. If you have problems with crashes then try to move the app from SD to phone. That's mostly the problem why updated apps won't start anymore. With old android my apps are installed to phone...with ginger most apps are installed to SD. After updating angry birds as example it was also installed to SD and did not work anymore.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danielpc:
Anybody know of any vibrant kernels with voodoo sound v5?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danielpc:
Disregard the question. cmenard is the man.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] |Melvin|:
You found one ?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danielpc:
cmenard commented in his Overstock thread that he'll have an update coming soon.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jRi0T68:
Ttabbal says he'll be bringing it to Dragon, as well. If only someone could make a voodoo sound compatible kernel for Double Rainbow (Gingerbread).
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] |Melvin|:
Ohhh nice..soo i mean i would like to have it on 2.3.2 and up..i love the voodoo.sound
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jRi0T68:
Me too, but it will not happen without vibrant 2.3 source, from what I hear.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] |Melvin|:
Oohh man...thats bad
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danielpc:
Have you tried CM7? I have not but I believe it is a GB ROM and there is a kernel with voodoo sound available.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jRi0T68:
I've not. I stalk the thread, and have seen too many bugs. The data issues and battery life makes it a no-go for me.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VeryCoolAlan:
Wait I though we already had v5
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iynfynity:
what's new in v5?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] offdutyninja808:
Tiger blood has v5. Its what plants want.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danielpc:
Direct DAC. See the official bounty thread on the i9000 forum for details.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danielpc:
Looks like that is the only kernel to update so far. Giving it a shot.
[Thunderbolt General] Pinesal:
I live in Portland, Oregon. I am surprised I am not in a 4G area. I was told that the network is ready to go, they just need to flip the switch.
[Thunderbolt General] l7777:
CS and Store personal will tell you anything to sell you a phone, I wouldn't hold my breath. It will come in time though. Hopefully the hype of "4g" wasn't the only reason you bought the phone. If it was, you should return now.
[Thunderbolt General] bkiminfinity:
i do live in a 4G area but spend most of the week out-of-town on work, sadly in non-4G areas. i'm struggling to decide if i really want the tbolt given that i will only have true LTE access on the weekends. sometimes i feel it would be better to wait until where i am working has 4G as well or i get assigned to 4G area projects. hmm....
[Thunderbolt General] craighwk:
You still get to take advantage of the simultaneous data + voice if that sort of thing interests you, I think..
[Thunderbolt General] HolyGrail:
Look at the bright side, you'll be grandfather in if they decide to change to tiered data, when it does finally come to your city.
[Thunderbolt General] rushless:
I thought that too, but the "grandfathering" is only good for your contract term. Please read it when you have a chance. Two VZW managers confirmed this. Will they do it (cut off unlimited-who knows?), but they can if they want to.
[Thunderbolt General] compnird:
I live in Seattle and travel a LOT... most of my locations for routine travel are on the 4G map... Guess I'll get to compare Seattle speeds to Cincinnati next week. :)
[Thunderbolt General] HolyGrail:
Bunch of bull dude. Do you think or do you know? Don't believe everything you read. I been grandfathered on my unlimited talk $45 dollar plan for 8 years. My contract runs out, but nothing changes. When I grab a new phone the reb just starts up a new contract with my grandfathered one.

Also when you're contract runs out, and you don't do anything or upgrade you're phone your plan will continue the same way also. Here old screen shot of my plan I still have.

I have another friend that has a 10 unlimited data plan, and he's had it for 6 years.
[Thunderbolt General] kenhunt:
Thats not unlimited! That is only 99,999 minutes! :-p
[Thunderbolt General] HolyGrail:
lol :D:D:D
[Thunderbolt General] Weselers:
The only time you lose a grandfathered plan is when you switch to something that is not the same ability in VZW system. IE: going to "Iphone data" stay on an android and you will have same plan as long as you don't change it.
[Thunderbolt General] mcwolves32:
Tbolt is more than just 4g :D
[Thunderbolt General] Pinesal:
My wife said that last night the phone indicated that it was connected to 4G for about an hour last night.

Weird huh? I guess they are testing it out? Maybe getting ready to turn it on?
[Thunderbolt General] FP5241:
I bought mine knowing I wasn't in a 4G area but this phone is awesome. I haven't even got it Activated yet and I'm loving it!
[Thunderbolt General] tazzpatriot:
I asked about the grandfathered in today.. yes it Is true.. but once ur contract runs out .. and u get a different phone .. its done.... only way to keep it is to have the tb on the account .. sorry for the bad news but its true
[Thunderbolt General] Blaine12:
As a former Alltel/Verizon manager, I'd like to throw my two cents in. Per the letter of the contract, Verizon does have the ability to remove your unlimited data after the contract ends. With that being said, in my 6 years in the industry I have never seen it happen. We had customers on $20/mo unlimited minute plans who had originally signed on with GTE. As long as you don't initiate the change, you're fine.

The only exception (which I think was mentioned earlier), is moving to a different class of device. For example, a data plan for a feature phone won't map over to a new smartphon, etc...

Hope this helps!
[Thunderbolt General] deadpixell:
where did you buy it from? I told all my customers in portland that 4g is only near the airport and is slowly expanding/being turned on. The vzw account/data manager I spoke with said you can get it 3 miles outside PDX and it is being turned on in other areas.
[Thunderbolt General] destroyerbmx:
4g isnt even a buying point for me, I am not in an area and most likely wont get it for another 1-2 years, I will have had at least 4 new phones by then. I bought this bad boy for the potential in it. Its all great hardware and by far the best support from xda over any other company. If the G2 is putting down 100 mflops I cant wait to see what this can do once its all tuned up.
[Thunderbolt General] HolyGrail:
Untrue. I have been on 5 different devices in my 8 years. All were smart-phones. Never had to change my plan. Now that being said, what you wrote would probably true if I would have upgraded to something other then a smart-phone device.
[Thunderbolt General] tazzpatriot:
Things change bro.. it never changed for me either. But they will.. wait til ur contract runs out. And they do away with unlimited. U will have to change .. only way u won't is if u keep the tb in ur line.. u will see lol
[Thunderbolt General] jords12:
That's 70 days of talk time... per month. :)
[Thunderbolt General] tazzpatriot:
I hope not but I was told its happening
[Thunderbolt General] DroidDont:
Just wanted to highlight this portion for all of the Internet contract law experts who keep repeating that the "grandfathering" we're referencing here is written in stone.

"I'm getting a Thunderbolt because I'll be grandfathered in to $29.99 LTE data for life!" - That may not be the most well-though-out reasoning, since there's little precedent for the kind of service rollout we're seeing with LTE. If you follow the correct sources - financials pages and not IRC or individual blogs - you'd be smart to approach LTE pricing cautiously as a consumer. All signs point to tiered pricing coming this summer.

It's likely that $29.99 will last for the duration of the contract only, and customers will be moved to one of the yet-to-be-announced LTE tiers at that time.

Ironically, this may be a wise time to get a 2-year contract. Normally, I go month-to-month postpaid.
[Thunderbolt General] tazzpatriot:
Yup what I was told.. but only if u change phones. If u stay with the tb. Then it won't change..
[Thunderbolt General] HolyGrail:
My contract ran out last weak. Upgraded to a thunderbolt yesterday. Same unlimited voice $45 plan.

I not saying things won't change. If your force to change thats fine, but I don't go by what people think they know, when they really don't or don't have a clue. I would have got scared and lost my plan long ago, believing what people think they know.

From my 8 years in Verizon, I have never seen them have a reputation of trying to find ways of forcing customers out of plans their grandfathered in. They have always honored mine.
[Thunderbolt General] tazzpatriot:
Yes right now.. but once they change it.. u can't buy the tb and get unlimited
[Thunderbolt General] HolyGrail:
And that is why you buy it now so they can get unlimited grandfathered in.
[Thunderbolt General] Pinesal:
It was the Verizon store on Division street in Gresham. And he did tell me that 4G works at the airport. That doesn't do me much good though.
[Thunderbolt General] nkd:
Why would Verizon not give u unlimited. I mean att until this day has not forced anyone to switch to a tiered plan. People got atrix 4g and got grandfathered in. Trust me of att is still allowing people to be grandfathered in I dont see a reason Verizon not doing it. Att is a company who started tiered data plans and now they are doing it with uverse. If a company as forceful as att doesn't do it then why would Verizon?
[Thunderbolt General] pmdied:
I busted my Incredible on the 16th, so getting the Thunderbolt was an obvious choce. That said, I don't see much LTE service here in North Jersey but I work in NY and service there is awesome.
[Thunderbolt General] HolyGrail:
Use this:

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...type=NEWREQUEST&zip=75024&city=Plano&state=TX

Just put in your address/zip, and check mark the 4G circle. It will show your 4g coverage area, and your 4g extended coverage area.

Don't know how up to date it is, so keep that in mine.
[Thunderbolt General] EgoDogg:
Thanks for letting me know how far from coverage I am :(
[Thunderbolt General] tazzpatriot:
Yes and in two yrs when the contract runs out.. unlimited wont be a option and u will need a new package .. u will only have it for the tb.. once u change phones..u wont have it.. but. Ill find out in 2012 if that's true...
[Thunderbolt General] ccmks:
Actually it is worth for you to wait. Why? because by the time when the 4G covers your area, Verizon may changed the data plan price (may be more expensive, who knows). Since you bought and be the Verizon customer, you can enjoy $30/month for unlimited data plan (including 4G later).

So, just be patient. That phone is really fast than other phone and it also has 4G capability. So, why not wait for that?
[Thunderbolt General] HolyGrail:
Again do you think? Or do you Know?

No one knows what will happen in 2 years. Show some evidence before you spread what you think will happen, instead of making up facts as you go. Unlike your counter productive argument of what you think will happen.

My facts:

1) 8 years, changed phones and contracts.........still on the same $45 unlimited voice plan.

2) Friend of 10 years is still on his unlimited $10 data plan, regardless of changing phones/contracts. (That lucky pos)

3) There is nothing in the Verizion TOS that specifically states that if you're grandfathered in to your plan its only for said phone. If this was the case, I would have had to upgrade my plan years ago.

4) Its still better to get grandfathered in now, then not too, because if verizon does decide to change............At least you got a good 2 years enjoying it. Unlike your counter productive argument of what your crystal ball says will happen.

Facts^^^

If your going to report something, don't report what you think will happen.

Report stuff when you know stuff.
[Thunderbolt General] deadpixell:
You'll start to see it do that a lot more. Was told Portland will be fully covered at the latest at the end of the second quarter.
[Thunderbolt General] DroidDont:
Sorry to be pedantic, but what you've listed here are anecdotes, followed by a supposition. The logical fallacy is that you're basing the potential outcome of future events based on the outcome of distinct past events. While your conclusion may hold true, we don't have any empirical evidence that Verizon can't move you to tiered LTE data as a part of a future contract once the current contract ends. This is because they can offer different terms on a new contract; you can choose to accept or decline those terms, and your answer will likely have a direct relationship to whether or not you continue to be a customer of Verizon.

It could go either way; I've had the luxury of being the beneficiary of such "grandfathering" in the past. In terms of law and contract, however, there's nothing that says Verizon can't change data plans once your current contract is up. You're speaking of the "grandfathering" as if it's written somewhere; it's not. This is a courtesy (and in some instances, and oversight) that we've seen practiced in the past.

Proceed with caution, and prepare for the worst, particularly since the money side of Verizon has been making public noise about revenue gains to be garnered from tiered data pricing on the LTE network. Banking on "grandfathered" pricing for LTE is foolhardy, but I'm happy to eat my words, particularly when LTE makes its way to my neck of the woods.

Conclusion: You're both making assumptions that I wouldn't take to the bank. The truth is in the middle, of course.
[Thunderbolt General] tazzpatriot:
im not looking for arguements just telling u what i was told,,, my dx burnt my nephew and they replaced it, with the tb,, a person from the corprate office (supposely higher up ) called me because my sister called a lawyer ,, while i was on the phone , i asked a bunch of questions,,, one was about the data ,,, HE IS THE ONE WHO TOLD ME,,,,WHAT HE SAID WAS,, HERE SHORTLY THEY ARE DOING AWAY WITH UNLIMITED,,, WE ARE GRANDFATHERED IN THIS TIME ,, BUT,,, THE NEXT TIME (IN 2 YRS) UNLESS U KEEP UR TB AND NOT CHANGE TO A DIFFERENT PHONE,, U WILL LOSE IT,, damn i see all u guys starting stupid threads about nuthing,, and i just say what i was told by 4 different supervisers because of them prolly being scared my sister was gunna sue them that THIS IS WHAT IS GUNNA HAPPEN ,,
[Thunderbolt General] PJnc284:
They've made no hint in the past that they'd require a change so there's no reason to believe they would in the future unless there's an actual press release. One would think that those who were previously on the no longer offered 150MB would've had to change to the 29.99 unlimited plans for the iPhone or other current Android devices but that wasn't the case.
[Thunderbolt General] Funnyface19:
i would trade you a droid x lol
[Thunderbolt General] heiNey:
I bought the thunderbolt knowing i'm in a 4G area. I barely get 4Mbps down, but it shows 30Mbps up, and that's only IF it ever connects to the 4G network - which it does only intermittently. I bought this replacing a droid eris, and my reception is the same as the eris. heh.

this is in san diego, CA and my address is definitely inside the LTE area shown on the map
[Thunderbolt General] Funnyface19:
Yo Tazz long time no see hope ur doing better bro
[Thunderbolt General] eatmybiglazer:
Me too

No 4g here, at least i get it when I'm at the airport... I do like that I will be on it the moment it rolls out here though
[Thunderbolt General] HolyGrail:
Speed test app is broken. Try other ones online. I getting around 13 mbps down.
[Thunderbolt General] JDM Civic EG8:
How long do you guys think they will keep the unlimited plan? I refuse to be with at&t again so I'm jumping ship. Plus the TB is an awesome phone but won't be able to get it until next month
[Thunderbolt General] orcsbane13:
Once Sprint and at&t get their LTE towers going will we be able to piggy back on them when not in a Verizon area?
[Thunderbolt General] MechaMorph:
I don't know if they could ever get rid of it. I think there is too much demand and with phones advancing as fast as they are a 5GB limit is just not enough.

What I see happening is a tiered plan where unlimited would cost the most. Say $50/month for unlimited. I wouldn't mind that. If it was anymore then $50 I'd probably have to voice my opinion.

My wife uses jack when it comes to her data plan so I could drop her to 250MB and put the saving back into my own plan and not have it cost me a penny more. ;)

I will say I love living in the DC Metro area. 4G speeds everywhere I go and it is stupidly fast.
[Thunderbolt General] tbcpn:
I live about 25 miles SW of Portland (actually, it's exactly 38 miles from my driveway to the new long term parking garage at PDX). As you know, PDX and the area around it has had 4G for some time, and there seems to be pretty strong consensus that all of Portland metro will have it by the end of Q2 this year--probably sooner.

Having said all that, I don't know that this near term expansion of 4G to cover Portland will reach where I live. But, I purchased the T-bolt not for 4G, but for the phone. And, I'm not disappointed at all! I also have a Dinc and a DX, both rooted, and a Xoom.
[Thunderbolt General] TeH PLAYA:
HolyGrail,

So I have a question for you.

So you're still using the same data plan from the DInc with the TBolt, despite the TBolt being 4G? So Verizon does not differentiate their smartphone data plans between 3G and 4G?

Currently I have a DInc, with the $30 unlimited data. What if I switch to a TBolt after they scratch the unlimited data plans (which there is a rumor that it might be this Thursday), will they grandfather me the unlimited data plan from the DInc to the TBolt *and* obviously get 4G speeds?

Hope that makes sense.

Now I understand that they differentiate between a BlackBerry data plan and a smartphone data plan. If you switch from a BB to a Droid the plans will obviously change.

Thanks.
[Thunderbolt General] HolyGrail:
Sorry for the late post.

What I have is Voice Data unlimited $45 that I was able to keep. The Thunderbolt has to have a 4G plan. You can't have it with just 3G.

I had to change 3G to 4G plan (same price for both). With my voice plan comes up to $75 before taxes.

If you can get the 4G plan before they possibly scratch unlimited on it would be your best way to go. Sorry for the misconception.
[Thunderbolt General] livestrong2012:
My unlimited data (29.99 a month) carried over from my droid inc. it had actually carried all the way over from my ancient alltel plan I believe. Just like how I still have unlimited messaging for something like 15-20 bucks a month. Just never changed! And when I am in 4g I still get it without any extra 4g specific plan.

Hope that helps! :)
[Thunderbolt General] Hyper4mance2k:
Lol me too. I'm in LA and its not 4G yet. My sales rep said it was lol. Asshole.
[Thunderbolt General] necosino:
Had temporary 4G in Syracuse for about an hour yesterday. Can't wait for it to be on completely!
[Thunderbolt General] probotic:
ventura county, coming this year... I'm cool with 3G until it gets here.
[Thunderbolt General] TeH PLAYA:
Thank you for your reply.

So they do differentiate the data plans between 3G and 4G. I see.

So basically they grandfathered your voice plan but you had to change the data plan, because the phone was 4G. Okay.

So if I upgrade to the TBolt from the DInc when the data plan tiered prices are in effect, the voice plan should transfer over, but the unlimited data plan probably wont. Damn.

My NE2 is only 3 months out, so the extra $100 off on top of contract price would be nice. But is it worth the risk of losing unlimited data? Decisions decisions.

Probably best to just get the TBolt now, lol.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] imranaryan:
Hey Can our poor i5800/5801 can make or receive video calls

coz i have nokia 6630 the one without front ca. am able to make and receive video call. but not able to do same on i5801 is it bcz m using krilos custom rom or its lack of android functionality
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Kaleptik:
This is not development. You should ask your questions here. --> FAQ

But in turn. I think it's lack of the functionality.
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] haree:
hi

thanks this thread is CLOSED
[Desire HD General] silvscorp:
After all the downgrade/flash custom rom, can I just use this "gold card" SD like a regular storage card on phone and can this card still be able to accessed by other media reader/computer?

If I format this SD card for whatever reason, is it still a "gold card" or I need to modify it again with the Hex tool.
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
You can use it just like a normal card. If you format it, it is not a goldcard anymore, but that does not really matter.
[Desire HD General] lee2006:
It is just a normal card but with special bits when it was formated as a "gold card". If you want to keep it as gold card, just delete contents rather than formating it.
[Thunderbolt General] jmiller98:
Can anyone confirm if skype is or is not working?
[Thunderbolt General] signals23:
I've got the beta working just fine.
[Thunderbolt General] jmiller98:
Thanks. Can u post a link or upload the beta apk?
[Thunderbolt General] signals23:
EDIT: Brainfart