yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible General] donnyp1:
Runnin latest 1.1 from his op
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CPCookieMan:
Does anyone else have trouble keeping this thing charged? I plug it into my computer and although it confirms that it is charging I continue to loose battery, although not as fast as normal. I need to power it completely off to get it to begin gaining battery.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] headcheese:
no... what if you plug it into ac
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craighwk:
This thing seems much slower to charge via computer USB than my Incredible did. However, mine is charging and is almost full. Have you tried plugging it into the wall to see if it goes faster there?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] palomosan:
The AC in the Wall is always faster.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CPCookieMan:
I haven't plugged it into the wall but being a dev, it's always hooked up to my laptop. I guess I can't use it as heavy when I have it "charging" from my laptop. If I really want to shoot some juice into it I can just turn it off. It works fine then.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Extra placeholder, for future use.
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
I assume the theme around the new name for the rom is the next generation, or the 2nd generation of the custom Viewsonic Tap-n-tap rom.

It's a sad day in mudville, but it's probably for the best. Let's get this party started....
[G Tablet General] K J Rad:
Woo Hoo! I'm nvflashing back to stock just for the fun of loading it all over again!
[G Tablet General] katmandu421:
Uh Oh, ready the F5
[G Tablet General] rothnic:
Tegra devices and their bootloader/kernel combination differences are such a pain. This means that without a newer patch, pershoot's kernels won't work, right?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
The initial pre-release will be the exact same code as TNT Lite 5.0.0 and 5.0.1 - I'll even keep the supplement. All I'm going to do is change the name so as to pull it out of the main TNTL thread.

So if someone has TNT Lite 5.00 and loads up this supplement, it will work just fine. And the name gets changed, too.

Correct. This is like a "Black Box" - isolated and on its own.
[G Tablet General] sigvader:
As a virtual middle finger I am gonna keep the name tnt lite 5.0.1 until a new supplement. Or release. Forces the change!!!!hahaha!!!
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
A new supplement is already coming. Flash 10.2 just got released and it's actually a newer version that what got leaked.

Now I have a BIG problem, which is the problem I was trying to avoid with TNT Lite 5, which is supporting yet another build. I might have to freeze TNT Lite 4.25 until I know what Viewsonic is doing.

Again, keep in mind that if you have TNT Lite 5.0.0 or 5.0.1 you CAN update to TwoTapsX .9.02 supplement, when I build it. It will definitely work.
[G Tablet General] snarful:
I realise that many people have had a very difficult, or impossible, time moving up to TNT Lite 5.0.0, and that it seems to be a frustrating, hit-or-miss situation, but I, for one, like 5.0.0, and i'm sticking with it, for now, at least. Everything is working-- ui is snappy, market is relatively complete, with full stars, camera works in both orientations, etc. In addition, it may be that VS sees this direction as its path to "Honeycreams", and if so, then we're perched on the right branch to take advantage of it. If they should abandon this path, though, I believe (hope) I have nvflash all ready to go in Win 7 just in case I need to jump back into the original roms. From what I've picked up in the 5.0 thread, VS MAY be preparing to release an update soon, and this will tell us (maybe) where they're headed.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Hopefully in a few weeks, we will know and either TNT Lite is going to phased out, or this pre-release will. They won't be supported for long - one of them is going to die.
[G Tablet General] Gramps:
Thanks Roebeet for all your efforts to keep the VS Gtablet alive. I have loaded up your TwoTapsx v.9.02 ROM on my Gtablet and it seems to be very stable. Looking forward to what VS has in store for us next. Knowing you and the other developers will take whatever VS dishes out and make it better for our Gtablets.

Again, thank you for all that you do....

Gramps
[G Tablet General] erraskey:
I agree. .. will stay with 5 until (if) it dies. Then will grieve!
[G Tablet General] mikesal57:
Hi Roebeet...

This is your instructions to "backout" of TTx (which is the same as 5.0.1)

Backout (ie. to old stock, VEGAn, TNT Lite 4.x, etc):

I have successfully backed out of TTx in two ways:

1- Re-run a stock ROM. Specifically, I tested 3588. STOCK is important, as the bootloader will be downleveled to the necessary revision.

2- nvflash, using bekit's 1105 image.

In the case of stock, you might get stuck in a boot hang due to the possible need to wipe user data. So, I would recommend running the update.zip off a microSD so you can install clockworkmod .8 (old version) to give you the ability to wipe data.

Once you have old stock back, you'll be able to install older versions of TNT Lite, VEGAn, zPad, etc. as the bootloader is downleveled again.

using the new cwm thats on it now(blue writings) can we wipe data and cache, then put 3588 update zip and recovery folder on internal sd and things will resort back to stock with no snags?

thxs

mike
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
That should work. It's VS stock recovery, not cwm (it just looks like cwm). I added 3588 stock as an update.zip, with the recovery folder and ran it and it worked for me. The only caveat is that you might need a data wipe, so try to do that before you reboot after the flash update. The reason why is because 3588 stock doesn't have a "user data wipe" option in its recovery, so better safe than sorry.

I'm actually going to update the first post with that, as I think it's pretty important. Data wipes between old mods and this new one are pretty critical.
[G Tablet General] joe2262:
I just upgraded my 5.0.1 to .9.02 and I still have flash 10.2.155.67, where's the upgrade?
[G Tablet General] mikesal57:
thxs Rb...
[G Tablet General] olddocwhite:
TTX and TNTL

I know it was a lot of work, but splitting the two right now is probably a good decision for novice users. The TNTL allows users with CWM to continue to flash between roms and backups until they are ready for the plunge to TTX. Thanks for all your work.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Honestly, when one of the moderators brought it up it made a lot of sense. TNT Lite 5 was a tough one and I kept hoping things would die down, but they never did. It was getting tough to keep it going as a "released" mod. I also didn't release how many users were still on TNT Lite and the impact it would have - I underestimated the user problems it would create.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
You need to wipe data to get it - that's because the shell script won't (or can't) run if Adobe is already installed.

Alternatively, you can sideload it - it's under /system/etc in the supplement zip. Or, remove the old version and reboot and the shell script might re-install it (I think).
[G Tablet General] racedog:
Thanks, you're right. The data I wanted to protect are the personal phone numbers of some friends who would not want those numbers disclosed publicly. I have just removed the contacts from Gtab and will only have them on my phone where I can immediately blow up the data if the phone is lost or stolen.

BTW with the restored 5.0 running again I have also put back LauncherPro and all seems to be just fine. I suspect something got hosed and that it was not an LP or 5.0 incompatibility.

R
[G Tablet General] gpaunescu:
I can confirm that a G tablet not working with hidden router; I had this problem also with my phone (Samsung Galaxy S). It was solved by the upgrade to android 2.2.1

I think it is a problem for android 2.2.
[G Tablet General] kozmo2k4:
I have TrendNet and Linksys (DD-WRT) with hidden/non-broadcasting SSID and they work with both of my gTabs (4.2.5 and 4.4) just fine. They both work with my 1.6/2.1 and now 2.2.2(!) Samsung Moment.

It's not Android problem, has to be in the settings and with hidden SSID you have to manually add the network.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
I use netgear routers and have had no issues related to this problem....broadcast or not my Gtab finds the network.

I do run the "Wefi" app however which could be helping (was used originally if you had any network issues with the stock rom after rooting). I have used this from the first days of my rooting of the Gtab so I can't tell you if I have this issue without it. It's free so give it a try.

Edit: by the way.....Gtab only works on 2.4mhz wifi and not 5.0mhz wifi radio range.

Edit2: my bad.....My Gtab does NOT connect when the broadcast is turned off (forgot I had it turned on for some debugging a while ago). It did work without the broadcast in 3.x.x, not sure about 4.x.x. ( I will have to try adding the connection in manually as before).
[G Tablet General] racedog:
No more Nvidia drivers for gtab

Now that Nvidia has stated that there will be no more drivers for the Harmony platform that means that the gtab is now, essentiallly, dead in the water.

Any ideas as to where we go from here or do we just dump these and move on?

R
[G Tablet General] TaterTot24:
Any kind of update on this available?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Allegedly a new firmware is weeks away (minimum)

If Viewsonic is to be believed via their web site - so I'm still stuck in a holding pattern. It's now been ~ a month since I pulled this, and two months since their UAT 3991 build was compiled.

I'll be honest - I'm getting a little fed up with Viewsonic and I might just reactivate this and then retire my GTAB, completely. I haven't decided yet. I cannot believe that this new firmware has been delayed yet again.
[G Tablet General] TaterTot24:
Just found your thread in the general section roebeet...

I am with you man... So disapointed with Viewsonic, Nvidia, and Google right now...

I have been dealing with a unsupported device now for a while (HTC G1 - what started this whole Android thing :rolleyes:) and it sux....

I have no luck with picking Android devices...
[G Tablet General] bkbrod:
Really don't care what VS or Nvidia do. I've got your latest version of this rom running and it does everything I need it to do. Thanks again Roebeet. You are the man. :D
[G Tablet General] CARMELHILL:
I'm frustrated by everything right now. Google has been draggin their feet with development of any support for tablets. Meanwhile, Apple continues to blow everyone away. Android may be the top phone os by 2012, but that's only by default because not EVERYONE wants an apple product. But seriously, how can you argue with the Ipads success. Everyday that goes by, and we don't see a new VS rom or more apps designed for Honeycomb, the more I wonder if I should have originally bought an Ipad. It's starting to look more and more that all these Android tablets are going to be just paperweights compared to the VERY capable Ipad. Aghhhhhhhhhhhh I hate Apple.
[G Tablet General] racedog:
I bought the Gtab mostly as a toy but have been using it to do real work and for travel. Now, with this announcement that its pretty much a dead piece of hardware I have to consider moving along.

Thanks to Roebeet and others the gtab has become a functional unit but its clear now that it is also an EOL unit. Since I am using it for a few business functions I guess I'm going to have to consider moving along shortly. Google doesn't seem to be at a point where I have great confidence in their tablet OS, nor do I trust android tablet manufacturers any more to support their products for at least a reasonable length of time.

I will be looking at an Ipad. No, not as much fun, but a supported product with a REAL, USABLE screen. I'll keep the gtab for awhile and my wife can use it to play a few games. I also doubt very much that I will ever buy another Viewsonic product.

R
[G Tablet General] erraskey:
Status Quo

I haven't been here for a while. ... on 5.0 and happy with it. Using my tab for "not work" things like browsing, reading books, mags, newspapers. I don't game. Had hoped to replace my laptop but this or any other tab doesn't look like it's going to do that.

Screen is OK for me - not great but functional. I use my iPhone to constantly play white noise - never another apple for me.

I understand everyone's frustration with vs. But for me for $400 this is a pretty good deal compared to double that for a competitor.

I agree that Google is slow to the tab party and that functionality is impaired. VS has either already or soon will cut their losses. A good idea to rebrand Malata but they should have gone with Roe not T&T.

So thanks again to Roebeet for making this work for me. Tough to be between a half-assed manufacturer and holy power users. But I appreciate it.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
TTx and my other mods are being moved, next week

They will still exist, but I'm not permitted to say where they are going, as per the moderators here. I could risk getting sanctioned or banned, if I do.

I have a thread here explaining what happened: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1034064. That thread is now closed, so it will be buried very quickly.
[G Tablet General] racedog:
Wow, read every post in the link above and it looks like there has been a ton of drama going on here!

While I will be buying another tab I will also be keeping the gtab as a modding toy. About the only game I play is solitaire but I do want a better, more supported unit, as a functional business device. Now, I won't have to worry that if I brick it I might lose some needed data.

I will be joining other places to continue Roebeet's mods so I guess this will be my last post in this area. I'll be seeing everyone "on the other side".

R
[G Tablet General] joe2262:
My first ttx hairy moment

Just wanted to preface this with I'm not new to TnT lite or TTX, been running TTX since Roebeet first released it without problem till now.

I boot the gtab this morning to FC after FC. I rebooted three times with the same results so I booted into TTX recovery and wiped cache and rebooted. No change. Next, I booted into TTX recovery and did a factory reset and reboot. That seems to have fixed the problem. So I installed Titanium backup and restored my apps and system data. All seems well.

The only thing I can think of is yesterdays nightly build of Fennec hosed something??? Or the pipes needed cleaning.

PS. The screen artifacts, 'dashed lines' were much more of a problem during the looping FC messages.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Early testing is showing that the new build 4349 may have the same bootloader as 3991 (and therefore TNT Lite 5 / TTx). Still need to confirm that.
[G Tablet General] astevens54:
Roebeet, please continue this ROM. I was just looking a Quadrant scores on Youtube for Vegan's latest version and it was 1800 where as 5.0.1 got almost 2200. For me it's all about stability and speed... There was nothing wrong with this ROM other than people didn't follow directions.
[G Tablet General] CARMELHILL:
I agree with astevens54. I have been very stable with 5.1 and my scores are pretty good. I had better scores with 2.2, but that was months ago. So keep it up, we'll follow you anywhere. I'll learn how to NVflash when things slow down at work, for the inevitable f- - k up. Hopefully that thread stays active an accessible.

I'm holding onto my Gtab, and waiting for VS to make a move, and waiting for Google to get their crap together. For now, this tablet is basically what I was looking for....a larger screened version of my Droid Incredible phone.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
TwoTapsX has JUST been justified - it WILL rise from the ashes!

This takes precedence over all the drama. See this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1035983

I've been waiting a month for this to happen. TwoTapsX WILL replace TNT Lite - the torch is going to be passed, this weekend.
[G Tablet General] karlkarloff:
Roebeet, thats the best news I've heard in a long time for my Gtab. TTx is the fastest, most stable Rom I've used, and I'm glad to see that it will continue to be developed. I was on the verge of breaking down and buying a Xoom, but now I think I'll hold off and spend my hard earned clams on a new soldering station. Yay me! Yay Roebeet! Looks like all your hard work and research is going to pay off. And they said that TnT5/TTx was a bad idea...poor bastards.
[G Tablet General] astevens54:
Thank you, as tempted as I am to try VEGAn I cannot bring myself to move to it. I had my hands on a Xoom with HC3 and was not impressed. The current version with some elements of HC3 may be the best of both worlds. Newer is not always better. Speed and stability rein.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I have to admit - I was "mostly" happy. Happy because I was right and that UAT 3991 (the basis for TwoTapsX) was the future and not a mistake. And I was right that 3588 is a gateway ROM and that they had to figure out how to code their updater to get users to 3588 first, before they could move to the 1.2 dev branch. I nailed it.

Normally I wouldn't pat myself on the back, but I will be honest that I was damn proud of myself that I made the right call, even with all the soft-bricks. I'm a sysadmin so this is the type of stuff I do - take the evidence in front of you and make a judgment call. And I got a LOT of heat for that, more than most people know. So yeah, I will pat myself on the back this one time, because I feel vindicated now.

Only one caveat :) I'm busy as hell right now because this thing is going to cause major problems here. Basically, all the headaches I had last month will now spill over to the other mods. I see a lot of soft-bricks in our future. :eek:
[G Tablet General] Mikeg1969:
I just have to say.....

Having been a Gtab user since December and having tried all of the different mods, I had settled on staying with the TNT Lite progression. When Roebeet discovered 3991 and made the original TNT5.0 I found it to be the fastest and most stable rom that I had used in awhile. I (along with many other) was frustrated when TwoTapsX was shelved because of the issues some had when trying it out due to the compatiblility differences with the current kernel. I agreed with Robeets vision that this was most likely the way that VS was headed and therefore became extremely frustrated to read that Roebeet was retiring as a dev here.

I don't know all of what hapened behind the scenes, who said or did what that began to open the rift between Roebeet and XDA, but I hope that in the interest of all of us that frequent this site the "fences" can be mended. XDA has SO MUCH good information available for all to share but I do want to follow on with the rom progression that Roebeet does with the TNT firmware.

Roebeet your vision has been vindicated. Now I just hope that you will be accepted again for what you are....not just a developer but also the visionary that saw the way of the future.;)
[G Tablet General] atakapa:
It was incredibly narrow-minded and short-sighted to stifle development of a new STOCK firmware from the VENDOR. It was obvious that this was the direction the STOCK ROM was headed. Even with the problems the OTA updater had from the initial 3991 release, this new dev branch was coming, like it or not.

The type of bias shown in this instance is unhealthy for future development, at best, and disconcerting to say the least.

I've seen many uploads to these forums that are nothing more than crude hacks and bootloops/hard locks waiting to happen, yet they persist, even when the originator disappears with little to no support for the damage caused. Roebeet does not fall into this category, and I don't see how anyone who has been a member here for even a little while could see it any differently.
[G Tablet General] chili_red:
My words exactly, and I'll be following Robeet to where ever he puts his mods. Thank you again for all the great work you have done.
[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=12298247#post12298247

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=12299486#post12299486

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12301776&postcount=83

Lest at least keep the record straight
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I will reply to that last comment, because it seems that you and also jerdog are holding me to that comment. So be it.

I waited a week to pull TNT Lite 5 - probably the longest week I've ever experienced. Between pressure from people like you and others, I pulled it because I was told that it was causing too many issues and that I was being irresponsible to leave it up.

I decided to leave it down even after I eventually got the OK to reactivate it because I was so mentally drained that I wanted to give myself a rest and because I was hoping Viewsonic would show me their path shortly thereafter. It just took several weeks. We also had the Woot! sale at the same time, so I did not want to get further pressure to re-disable it again.

But I will make this perfectly clear - I first took down TNT Lite 5 due to complaints of brickage and that I was not doing enough to do post-support. You were there and you know what I'm talking about. The reason why I actually wrote that post was to calm people down as I did not want to re-activate after the ABUSE I received with TNT Lite 5 - what I didn't' realize is that there were users here who had some hidden agenda and started documenting my every action since then.

This whole situation is completely ridiculous, and this is exactly the reason why I choose not to host my mods here, anymore. I have no time for these childish antics. So I choose to develop new mods elsewhere.

In my day job, I have to deal with politics and back-stabbing every day, because I'm getting paid a salary. I don't have to deal with that, here - I want to make mods and have fun, not worry that my every move is being documented and criticized.
[G Tablet General] Synman:
Gawd forbid we land on a common bootloader and recovery. Or at least ones that play together. Isn't bekit open?
[G Tablet General] atakapa:
I was speaking about the pressure put on Roebeet to pull the ROM, see bold text below.

Roebeet made the decision under enormous pressure, some of which may or may not have been warranted, given the lengths at which he went through to fully issue warnings.

These problems can happen on ANY rom on this site if you fail to follow the directions or have no idea what you're doing when you Flash a custom ROM and it goes wrong.

The fact is that there is an inherent risk with flashing ANY rom, or firmware. It is up to the users to fully understand that risk and know how to recover from a bad flash, if possible.

This is as far off-topic as I will go.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
Yes lets do.....you were wrong, you know you were wrong and you should spend a lot less time trying prove that you weren't....it just makes you look foolish and small minded. You made a lot of PUBLIC disparaging comments about Roebeet and you should now make a PUBLIC apology for your actions, but based on your continued posts I somehow doubt that you are big enough to do this.

And the "thanks" to you from me was a mistake ( I meant to click reply instead).....I should be able to un-thank you but this is a function that seems to be missing.