yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Off-topic] twitch351:
Haha! XD Well personally I don't like tablets all like that. That's why I have my phone, and a Laptop. :)

And I know this is a little off topic but have you ever watched Big O?

-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
[Off-topic] domineus:
yessir!

ugh 10 characters pos
[Off-topic] twitch351:
I thought so. :D That's where you got your user from I assume? They still air it on Adult Swim! :eek:

But back on topic, if you know all the tablets don't suit you then why buy them? That's like buying an iphone when you are clearly an apple user haha

-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
[Off-topic] domineus:
clinical psychology student

we write a lot of notes

transcribing them from notepad to typing them digitally would take too long. One note cuts the time in half. Plus paperless medium, it gives me some options
[Off-topic] twitch351:
So why not just use a laptop? What advantages do you have using a tablet that a laptop won't give you?

-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
[Off-topic] domineus:
That's why
[Off-topic] twitch351:
I guess :p But you're making a sacrifice either way so that's the choice you chose to make when you chose to chose a tablet :p

-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
[Off-topic] domineus:
oh the tablet I like its everything else and lack of options. Give me something...more i guess
[Off-topic] Purple Drama Llama:
Lol. I love how its just the OP and the Banana posting in this thread of randomness. Lol Lol Lol Lol :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[Off-topic] domineus:
adding to the random banana drama llama

ugh that didn't rhyme...
[Off-topic] twitch351:
Oh em eff gosh! You're alive! :eek:

-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
[Off-topic] souljaboy:
On Air : Angry computer nerd - live on xda
[Off-topic] sakai4eva:
@OP: when you do find a good tablet for that use, let me know. My sister is going onto her clinical studies in about a year and her netbook is just too bulky (!)

I suppose an iPad would be good, but I don't wanna let her fall into the trap of Apple so soon in her life.
[Off-topic] souljaboy:
Well get a smaller netbook ...

What does she need it for ?

Pretty much Tablets have 0 data input value , and even less without win 7 , its a useless form factor to begin with
[Off-topic] domineus:
zero data input value?

er...I just not only tutored a calc student with my tablet but just synced my 20 pages of notes via onenote that has easily converted it to text. I record my lectures on my tablet and save from the lack of a good ui/ux, this has been extremely reliable data input. And that's been there since windows xp...

In fact, spoke with a friend of mine whose an acupuncturist who lives on his tablet. Patient records, signatures, everything is on that hd and stored in some digital format.

@sakai4eva

as far as which to get, if she is doing something medical, skyscape is an indispensable block of programs that truly do help. Often I read the psychiatric information just for jokes and giggles. But for an MD student, it is fantastic. For anything else, the ipad is a joke and it's a waste of time for functional. Same can be said for the awful galaxy.

In terms of tablet pcs, what many have been crying for (myself included) is a better gpu. I am hoping the x220t sandies i7 processors will provide a better integrated gpu chip. However I will be stuck with n trig...the starting price for the x220t is 1100 USD (rumored) but probably for my specs it can easily become 2k.

Also, feel sorry for us. We can't "work" while doing this. Some schools offer assistanceships mine doesn't...damn santa barbara...
[Off-topic] sakai4eva:
Hope you understand some of this:

1. She has to keep running around the hospital for the entire shift.

2. She needs to write down notes for the patient's illness and the teaching doctor's explanation

3. She needs to re-read all this when she gets back and compare with her textbooks

While a netbook could have filled her needs, it is very impractical to carry it around AND type while balancing drugs, stethoscope, patient's charts, etc. A tablet would work like a notepad with the ability to write immediately on the surface (as well as sketching) without using the keyboard for data entry.

Lightweight, easy to carry, long(ish) battery life, ease of use will be key factors here. I would have bought an iPad if she started now, or possibly a PlayBook when/if it comes out right.

Thanks for the tip on skyscape. If/when she gets her smartphone (no sponsorship here), I'll make sure she gets it.

I don't think she will need a unit with a "powerful" GPU per se, so I'm pretty much settled on the iPad unless the PlayBook turns out to be soooo much better.

As for the tablet, it'll be paid by myself or my father. She's gonna owe me big time for this :)
[Off-topic] domineus:
playbook may not have skyscape support

and for writing anything the ipad SUCKS

onenote has a much better system especially with cloud integration. Not to toot windows horn, but onenote is genius. That is bar none one of the best note taking programs out there. With acrobat pro, the combinations are endless. I can totally say that.

If form factor is an issue, ipad is definitely smaller than any tablet I am referring to, but not nearly as robust. The dell xt2 is about 2.5 lbs, with the hp 2740p about 3 pounds. If it is just for notes, I would go for the xt2 and you can catch one on ebay for around the same price as an ipad.
[Off-topic] souljaboy:
1, yes , ive said ull need a smaller netbook

2, you realize tablets have a sad typing experiance and are even worse for prolonged use

Yes , typing a web address is fine but filling in sheets several hours a day is a different thing

3, not a problem

you also havent considered the chance of a non web medical application , dictionary or tutorial app will have a laughable chance of running on non standard multimedia os-es like blackberry , ios

i hope you see the point if tablets were the secret sauce of campuses , u would see nothing but those , but you don't

the thing you see on tv isnt the thing that is genuine and good but the product they want you to buy :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] juzz86:
When I was at Uni, I had this awesome piece of kit called a Logitech io2 or something similar. Basically a pen that records your strokes when you write on a special gridded pad. Transcribe your notes onto the pad, take it back to your laptop, plug it in (USB) and it downloads your notes straight into Word. Heaps easier than trying to keep up typing while the lecturer rants on. I'm a hopeless typer though, some will no doubt find it easier.

I still think it would be hard to beat, and I know none of today's tablets hold a candle to it. It's still in the drawer somewhere!
[Off-topic] domineus:
I think you are referring to slates with many of the accusations. Now understandably, some slates have that effect, but I'm referring to convertible tablet pcs, not inasmuch the toys (e.g. apple and android). Because I do see a few of the toys on my campus, but in my classes, I see tablet convertibles running windows. Also many tablet convertibles aren't advertised...

I don't understand where you mention non-web medical application (I assume you mean full running web program running on internal memory without web support)

er....

why do I need a pen that records strokes on a special gridded pad if I have a convertible tablet that does the same thing and converts sans taking it back to laptop? It's essentially already on there.

I also have the bonus of recording my lectures directly to make sure I don't miss a beat and playback.

It's the little things that convertibles do for business intent that makes them lucrative for me as a student. And I am not knocking the technology at all. In fact, the evolution has been nothing short of amazing. It was a pipe dream for me to do what I described back in 04, and now I can do it limitlessly.

As an OS, in theory windows has everything I want and it is extremely advanced. Problem is, when you place it on a tablet without further optimization, well it sucks. I hope honestly the metro ui from windows 8 is leaked on the web so I can try it out - hopefully it will make a difference. Otherwise yea...
[Off-topic] juzz86:
Sounds like you don't :) just my 2c man, chill.
[Off-topic] domineus:
no worries

maybe the gal pal will need it for nursing though

but I looked online for it good lord theyre quite expensive and for only 2 gb storage too...its crazy not cheap
[Off-topic] souljaboy:
i do pretty well typing , better than i expected , even tho im not a (very)fast typer

ur rite , im talking about the non-unfoldable ones .

by non web i mean anything with an executable file ... say back in my cisco class i had a cisco simulated sceniaro app and packet tracer , packet sniffer etc , the medical equivalents of all those things you will most likely run into os incompatibility with a non win7 os

yes the interface sucks for touch alltho i havent installed the windows tablet enhancement even while i had a touch screen win7 device ; it had joystick style stick pointers , like the ones on ibm lappy's keyboards , they work surprisingly well
[Off-topic] domineus:
there are some elements I do enjoy but by in large its meh...so I definitely need something to change that experience
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kyuzosama:
I have a

Bell

HTC Desire-Z

I am having hell of a time with this. I rooted my phone and have S-OFF. I have currently installed cyanogenmod 6.1 installed with rom manager and clockworkmod recovery 2.5.1 I believe.

I have the tried quite a few things to restore it and have read probably for 15 hours.

I have tried the RUU RUU_Vision_BellMobility_WWE_1.34.666.1_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.18_M2_release_154437_signed.exe

and it recognizes my phone, startes the process but doesn't get past the part "looking for bootloader" and my phone just stays at the black screen with HTC written in white.

If someone can point me in to where I am going wrong here I'd love your life.

Even if you could tell me how to get modaco v8 installed. When I boot into clockwork and install the zip from sd card I get a line error.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HLeenders:
Bad download?? Sure it's the complete rom (or just the radio??) Download the rom again and copy it trough USB to the root of your SD card. Be sure you have ENG HBOOT on there also. Reboot into recovery and choose install zip from sd-card.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kyuzosama:
Which rom are you talking about? The RUU comes in .exe files. I have hbooteng.img on my SD card root.

EDIT::..

I finally got it back to stock, was able to find a backup of Bell HTC Desire Z.
[Nook Color General] faisalsiddiqui:
Hi, I am running Nookie Froyo with Clean Theme and am trying to uninstall Soft Keys. I know it is a system app and I have tried to use Titanium Backup & some apps from the market which can remove system apps but every time I remove it and reboot it reappears as a fresh install. Please help as this is virtually driving me crazy

Thanks in advance for your help!!
[Nook Color General] Cheese Masterj:
I had this issue when I changed from Soft Keys, which I didn't like at all, to Magic Button, which works for me much better. You need to used Home Switcher for Froyo (available in the Market) to make the move away from Softkeys.
[Nook Color General] xdabr:
There's a Magic Button for Android? That's hilarious. I used to love Magic Button on Windows Mobile.
[Nook Color General] faisalsiddiqui:
Thanks for your reply, but I am not using the softkey launcher iam using ADW launcher. Do I still need to change to the Launcher that you mentioned?

Thanks
[Nook Color General] Cheese Masterj:
I used it on my Windows Mobile phone, too, which must be why I confused the correct program, Button savior, with Button Magic. My bad!

In any case, I believe you can use it with any Launcher (someone else may know more about this, I only have used LauncherPro). But if you use the Froyo Home switcher, it gives the option of changing from SoftKey.
[HTC Inspire 4G] stryfe2010:
once my inspire is rooted do I even need the gold card anymore, can I install roms of my original 8gb card?
[HTC Inspire 4G] gunnyman:
Yeah you can use your 8 gig.
[HTC Inspire 4G] rasroygbiv:
You can use it and leave the gold card image on there. This will let you root easier if you ever have to flash back to stock.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crunkhead18:
i'm seeing different ROM's for vibrant for example:

( [ROM] Teleforce (Froyo 2.2.1 JS7)(unthemed)[EDT ) if i flashed this, can i flash different ROM if im not satisfied with it?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Romanbb:
Yep
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nomadrider123:
you can flash one after another till you find the one you like

here is a list of most all the roms

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=991267

you can go to the dev section and read up on them I think there is videos floating around also.

I am using trigger
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crunkhead18:
thank you! :D
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crunkhead18:
thanks nomad! :D. im using trigger too with tigers blood kernel.. :D
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] Spaceman-Spiff:
Does it help more if I buy a new faster SD card (default card is a Class 2 card), or do optimizations such as this one: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=888379

I'll probably get a Class 6 card, as I haven't seen any Class 10 yet for micro SD.
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] Mioze7Ae:
Yes, faster SD cards do help quite a bit. I used a class 4 for a while and it was noticeably improved for apps2sd on eclair. I got a class 10 for Christmas and the improvement over class 4 was definitely noticeable but not as dramatic. I've read that there isn't much of an improvement between class 6 and class 10 due to hardware limitations inside the phone. For HD video recording I've seen recommendations for class 6+.

Khalpower's optimization script is amazing for eclair. I recommend the JIT, optimized build.prop, overclock and apps2sd. There is also a newer JIT, but I'm not sure if khal incorporated it into his script yet. I think we're still struggling to get the froyo builds to measure up to the optimized eclairs.
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] spiderx_mm:
Not sure though, I find my XT720 is more compatible with class2 SD cards. I've got one 4GB Class2 Card, one 8GB class2 Card and one 8GB Class6 card which all made by SansDisk. all of these, the most compatible one is the 4GB class2 Card. Although the Class6 card is faster and perform better, there's an issue with stability, where the phone frequently cannot mount the card when the phone is booted.

pls tell your suggestions.
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] AllGamer:
there are class 10 micro SD but the prices are outrageous at the moment.

class 6 16GB is the best bang for the buck right now

the 32GB are still stuck on class 4

looking forward to get some 32GB class 6 when they come out
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] Spaceman-Spiff:
Thanks for the comments. I think I'll get a 16GB class 6.

32GB microSD are also still pretty expensive (above $100).
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] Spaceman-Spiff:
Been using the Class 6 for a day now and I can feel speed improvements in loading apps or data from the sd card. I also cleared the factory settings to start fresh.
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] spyeye95:
I've got a class 10 16 GB microSD card for 30 € in Germany, which is about 40 $. I think that's a fair price. I haven't used it yet, so I can't tell you if it is faster or not.
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] AllGamer:
the price cost doesn't match the quality...

it might be an imitation all original class 10 minimum price are over $100+ specially for the 16GB version

seems like they sold you a Class 4 16GB instead

run some test on it, and you'll find out
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] 3rdstring:
$36.99 at Newegg.
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] reverendkjr:
I'm always hessitant to buy something with that odd of a price/speed ratio. I was actually reading the reviews and found something VERY interesting. There was one person who was mentioning an app called SD Speed Boost that was described as being able to adjust the sd card cache, thus speeding up the read/write speed to the card. It was only a dollar, so I tried it.

WOW...

It has improved the speed of my system 10x. I was skeptical at first, but I realized that if I run SD Tools from the market to test the speed before and after, it shows a significant increase in read/write speed. Obviously, those of us who have apps and cache on our sd card are constantly hitting it and the card's performance will affect performance.

Does anyone else want to tackle this $1 app and confirm my findings? If this is the answer to our slowness problems, maybe the settings that this app changes can somehow be added to our ROMs for everyone to benefit!
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] 3rdstring:
Is this the app your'e referring to? My write speed stayed about the same @10.7MB/s but the read speed went from @16 to 23 with a 1MB cache. I don't have any apps on the sd card to verify that aspect of any performance boost but Media Gallery loaded pretty quick.

:Edit: A 2MB cache improved the read speed to 43MB/s
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] reverendkjr:
Yes, this is the app i'm using. I've been "field testing" this all day, and I must say that I have never had this type of responsiveness and speed from this phone EVER. I am loving this $1 addition to my phone. I have a class 4 card that seems to be giving me 6mb write/33mb read and that is substantially better. I've tinkered with the different settings and found arount 3000 giving me the best numbers with my specific card. I can only imagine that a different class card would need different settings.
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] AllGamer:
newegg i'll trust, and patriot is a "ok" brand

they started producing high quality SD stuff in the last couple of years

but if you show me the same thing from eBay... no way in hell :p
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] AllGamer:
i'll try it out as well, it's only $1

SD Speed Boost, if it works it'll go into all my phones, as i have everything installed to SD anyways
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] AllGamer:
hey just checking before i hit the pay button, is it this one?

SD Card Speed Booster

Jim Weiler

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vaelek.sdspeedboost
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] 3rdstring:
Yes, that's the one.
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] Spaceman-Spiff:
Just installed.

OS: Dexter's 1.3 froyo with bugfix 2

SD Card: Adata 16GB Class 6

Speed Test

Average result from running 3x:

128KB cache: Read: 13.96MBps; Write: 6.63MBps

1024KB cache: Read: 22.40MBps (60% faster); Write: 6.93MBps

2048KB cache: Read: 36.67MBps (163% faster); Write: 6.90MBps

4096KB cache: Read: 33.67MBps (141% faster); Write: 6.90MBps

Interesting. The app seems to increase Read-speed only. I need to find an ideal cache size for optimal speed increase, so far it seems to be 2MB for me.

I'll rerun with my old Class 2 microSD card when I get home.
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] Mioze7Ae:
I think the app is just changing the value in /sys/devices/virtual/bdi/179:0/read_ahead_kb

The default value seems to be 128. You can set the value using e.g.

echo 2048 > /sys/devices/virtual/bdi/179:0/read_ahead_kb

I have a 16GB Kingston "class 10" (see also complaints about this card throughout XDA--I got it as a gift and I believe it was on sale for $40 at the time).

I've been testing read and write speeds with "SD tools" (free). SD tools writes and reads 190 MB and displays a dial as it goes so I can see that the initial write speed starts pretty high (10 MB/s) and then quickly falls significantly within a few seconds (probably after an on SD card buffer gets filled) eventually stabilizing at 3.3 MB/s. So, clearly this card is not really class 10 at all as it cannot sustain 10 MB/s except for what seems to be a 1 sec burst. As far as read and read_ahead_kb goes:

128 -- 14.1 MB/s read (avg of 3)

1024 -- 22.4 MB/s read (avg of 3)

2048 -- 43.2 MB/s read (avg of 3)

4096 -- 38.2 MB/s read (avg of 3)

Optimal also seems to be 2MB for me.
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] AllGamer:
man!... THANK YOU! ;) i'll try changing that manually and see if there's any improvement :D
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] reverendkjr:
I was hoping that someone would figure out a way to just add this as a default into our ROMs. It was worth a dollar to get this conversation started.:D
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] khalpowers:
yeahh..i will add this as a default on my next ..
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] reverendkjr:
Sweet. You rock man. I think I'm going to use your latest stock ROM in my next youtube video.
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] queens49:
Is there any way to permanently change the setting to 2048 using Root Explorer? I made the change using the Root Explorer text editor, and the read speeds went up significantly. If I restart the phone, the setting reverts back to 128
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] khalpowers:
try v2...:)..
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] Mioze7Ae:
One simple way is to add it to the oc-settings file on the SD card. This should work on all of Dexter's, xavwanted and khalpowers ROMs (khalpowers most recent release already has it). If you don't know about the oc-settings file, it can be a little tricky. Search for "oc-settings" in Dexter's stock ROM thread.
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] Spaceman-Spiff:
Damnit, the local computer store just stocked Class 10 SDHC, and it's quite affordable. I should've waited a week :P

If you're in Canada:

Kingston 8GB microSDHC Class 10 - $28, or

Adata 16GB microSDHC Class 6 - $30 (on sale)

Can't catch up with technology all the time, I guess :P. Well, I'm pretty happy with Class 6 speed so far, and I doubt Class 10 will bring the speed improvement as good as its theoretical speed.
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] scumm_boy:
Oh man, I am so going to order one of those Adata SD cards! Thank you for bringing them to my attention!

Sent from my XT720
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] AllGamer:
Adata normal price are only $ 32.99

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=11_175_177&item_id=023753

so even on sale you only save $ 2.99 :D

however here they do have it on sale for $24.99

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...34&cm_re=adata_microsd-_-20-211-534-_-Product

problem is shipping :p
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] Spaceman-Spiff:
Yea, that's why I buy them locally.

I was just surprised that Class 10 microsd is finally out and affordable. Was expecting above $50.
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] ahray69:
Just an experience to share, I tried to use Adata 16G C10 on Dex1.3+PatchV2, it makes the mobile hangs and I need to pull out the battery to recover it. Maybe I am a unlucky man.....
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] AllGamer:
what i really want is the 32GB microSD... but prices are still far too expensive for the class4

and i would not buy it unless it's at least a class 6
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] Spaceman-Spiff:
Actually I kept running into that problem on my old card (running Dex 1.3, no patch). So I decided to start clean, brand new sd card and wiped all factory settings again. Now running a lot more stable (now on Dex 1.3 + patch2).
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] ahray69:
As my SDCard is lifetime warranty, I just sent them to check and waiting for return.:D
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] SickBeast:
I got a class 10 card for my XT720, but I'm only able to copy files to my phone at around 4mb/sec when connecting it to my computer via USB.

It's disappointing. It also doesn't seem to have fixed the issues surrounding HD video recording. There must be a slow USB chip within the phone itself.

So, from my testing, there's no point in anything faster than a class 4 microsd in our phones. :(
[Milestone XT720 Accessories] khalpowers:
im using class 2 kingston only...with sd tweak on miui i can get transfer rate 5.10 mb when i copy movie from pc to phone via usb..:D
[Click General] blariozuna:
since i upgrade my tattoo to the 2.3 rom, everytime i put a 8gb memory it gets damage, and i cant even fix it on my pc, it doesnot let me format it.......!!!!! HELP ME :(...

whats wrong..??? how can i fix them...i got 2 memory damage right now...