yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate General] asrrin29:
I just provided a very sane reason why even a non technically inclined person can blow through GB upon GBs simply by streaming audio and you tube.

AT&T as well as every other wireless carrier has received BILLIONS in government subsidies to update their networks for high bandwidth usage. Instead of actually using this money on upgrading infrastructure they pocketed the money. and now they punish the end user for using bandwidth that has naturally evolved as we have moved to a higher bandwidth society? I'm not the one blind ****ing every one else. It's the carriers and people like you that enable them.
[Captivate General] boborone:
I noticed how nobody has come to counter point you on that one.
[Captivate General] bames:
as of july last year when i got mine your unlimited could be grandfathered even with a contract renewel/upgrade.
[Captivate General] bames:
+1

miami is wrong. If that is their policy it has changed sometime in the past month.

into february ATT was still allowing upgraders to keep their grandfathered unlimited data (even people going from a 3g device to a 4g device)

http://www.androidcentral.com/att-clarifies-their-4g-policy
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
You should have read to the end of the thread before replying.:rolleyes:
[Captivate General] bames:
why is that
[Captivate General] zelendel:
Ok guys can we all get along?:D

Here is what I was told before leaving ATT. If you upgraded before the new year we could let you keep it if you asked, if you didnt ask about it we were not to mention that you could keep it. After the new year we were not to even offer it and anyone that was found to have allowed someone to keep it on an upgrade would be written up.

The bottom line will be that they will find a way to remove all unlimited data plans from everyone. The tethering option will be closely monitored for abnormally high usage. My old store was already putting together a team for this.

Now I am not sying things might not change but that was the word before I left
[Captivate General] bames:
its all in good fun =)
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
AT&T offered unlimited data. People abused it. Now they don't. It's quite simple.

If I recall correctly, you're the person who posted that the used 25 GB in under a week... In which case, thank you for being so selfish.

Sent from my Captivate
[Captivate General] ou812bkewl:
I got my cappy in october and was able to keep my old "unlimited" data plan. My bud recently got an Iphone 4 with the new tiered plan and blew past 2 gigs in a couple weeks just streaming music and watching youtube on the phone strait out of the box on stock software without any tether at all. The rep in the store told him he couldn't go over two gigs using just the phone itself.
[Captivate General] modest_mandroid:
Is there any hard proof of this or are you just assuming that they got rid of the unlimited plan because people abused it?

It's a money grab, dude. The "unlimited" plan was never unlimited. AT&T and other carriers are just positioning themselves for long term data overage gains as data intensive services like netflix become commonplace. They're not even doing anything to prevent people from going to town with their bandwidth - you can still download 25gb of **** each month on the 2gb plan if you're willing to pay the overages.

And again, this isn't even about unlimited plans, it's about tethering. Unlimited plans have nothing to do with anything.
[Captivate General] boborone:
Again I say put your money where your mouth is. Bake a data cap in your rom. See how that blows over with users. Take mobile AP out. You still fail to make a point. If you want unlimited, go to sprint.
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
I saw your straw man argument the first time. No need to post it again.

Sent from my Captivate
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
Until someone loses an eye!:D
[Captivate General] boborone:
Arrrrrgh matey
[Captivate General] Bust it:
This conversation is a bunch of bunk, I have friends on verizon and other networks that chew up 22+ each month stemming audio and video with out tethering, they don't even trip on it, att is will continue losing customers until they decide to upgrade the system and compete with others are offering. If some one has an unlimited plan all the more power to them. Sprint doesn't lock down mobil AP and offers unlimited data and text,i have a friend that switched from att to sprint, canceled his internet connection and uses tethering for his home network use, verizon had commercials promoting this use, they have a charge for this though. Some in rural mountain areas don't have access to internet and tethering is what works best. If att is crippling your usage there are plenty of choices, if your on the unlimited plan,i say good for you, it's an all you can eat data plan so go get fat.

I check my data usage every month and am well short over a gig,i proudly tether my computer and download music to max out my data usage before the 26th of the month, so ha.
[Captivate General] joeybear23:
AT&T is losing customers?
[Captivate General] 8526WM6:
AT&T Is Squeezing Us

I agree. People here are saying that the heavy users are limiting bandwidth for other users. I disagree such that, if AT&T is willing to sell you higher data cap services, then it means they do have the extra bandwidth to supply you at the same data rate speed. Therefore, this is a way for AT&T to make more money from the same service you already have under the unlimited plan, not improve the service you already have. Further more, why market hot spot tethering devices if it will only cause harm to the quality of service to non-unlimited users? Answer, because it won't hurt any users and is actually a market ploy to squeeze more profit out of existing customers.

Don't you see that the mobile market is quickly outpacing the non-mobile market's internet usage (for residential, but business is also catching up in the mobile world). Soon mobile providers may well become ISP's once 4G-LTE is deployed and rivals ISP fast broadband bandwidths. WIMAX does not have the range capability like 3G & 4G does. It only makes sense for ISPs to save money using the 3G & 4G technologies to avoid high cost cabling to reach their customers. They will be able to reach even customers where cabling is non-existent through wireless 3G & 4G technology. It's going to happen, and is happening right now. Mobile providers becoming ISPs is not farfetched, and its only a matter of deploying the cell tower APs.

Verizon already sells a USB PC 4G/4G LTE compatible device for PCs. Samsung already equips their Netbook with a 4G wireless modem. More devices will access the 3G/4G/LTE networks every day. Its a fact! Also, remember, faster 4G/LTE networks will mean each person downloads their content quicker and spends less time on the network waiting, thus, less people downloading at the same time.

Don't say the high data usage users are hurting the other users. AT&T is simply playing the profit game by squeezing us for more charges at the same data speed.
[Captivate General] Minor723:
I was busted for tethering today and they tried to take away my 30$ unlimited plan. I only used 700mb od data last month and used mobile ap a few times. I played dumb and they agree to let me keep the plan so long as I never tether again.

I think its stupid that they are mad at me tethering when I use less then1 gb every month.
[Captivate General] Nucleartx:
Dropped my unlimited plan today and got the 4GB with tethering for $35 through retentions instead. Or if I wanted to, drop to 2GB for $15 per month. They really want people off of unlimited. Figured since I tethered last week quite a bit(never mentioned anything to them), might as well talk them into a deal for dropping it. Might be harder to get a deal once I got tagged for tethering without the correct plan.

Edit, I've only gone over 2GB 3 times in the past year. Pricing helped out with the discount.
[Captivate General] Jim Mitchell:
I'm confused...

I thought that if your phone was rooted and you disabled Tethering Manager (via TB Pro or whatever) that AT&T couldn't see you were tethering...

I understand and agree that you should be able to use the data you paid for (2gb, unlimited, whatever) in any way you choose...

But, doesn't disabling tethering manager stop their snooping???
[Captivate General] Nucleartx:
At&t is detecting by other methods now. They can see at a network level. The best guess at this time is TTL. It will be different for a PC/MAC/Tablet/Phone. Even using wireless tether, people have had At&t tell them exactly what they tethered and when. Best bet would be using PDANet using highest setting to keep you from being discovered. You could also setup a VPN even. It is entirely possible they are using Carrier IQ to tell if you are tethering.
[Captivate General] xhozt:
our phones dont have IQ on board .. and yea VPN completely blinds them ;-)
[Captivate General] hauj0bb:
I personally used on average just over 2gb per month (with an unlimited plan) of data tethering to my tablet and I received a letter from ATT several weeks ago.
[Captivate General] Nucleartx:
People are getting hit using less than 1GB per month with tethering warnings. No scare tactic, they are actively tracking users. Don't blame anybody but yourself if you get hit. You know the rules, its in the TOS.
[Captivate General] hitchb:
I agree, they must be actively tracking users. I used mine to tether only rarely from work and know I never even hit 1GB. I'm on the grandfathered true unlimited plan and I also received the warning letter and the SMS messages from ATT. They are monitoring access somehow.
[Captivate General] golucky:
Could it be CarrierIQ?
[Captivate General] snoopunit:
seriously? if you were grandfathered with an unlimited plan, you should have unlimited data usage period. as well, it doesn't cost at&t any more money to let you use data via tethering or on the phone itself. I should only be charged for the data i use, not how I use it.
[Captivate General] Jirv311:
Exactly how I feel. I have the same "unlimited" plan and feel I should be able to use it how I want. I typically only use 1GB a month but I really can't stand having any restrictions on my plan.

What I find amazing is how they start with unlimited and then pull it back to 200MB and 2GB when phones are only getting smarter and will only start using more data. It's a total reversal of typical progression. But apparently it's the American way. If there's a buck to be made, they're certainly going to make it. :mad:
[Captivate General] hitchb:
Sorry, I should have specified I agreed with how AT&T must be tracking users, NOT with how you should limit your use. If I have unlimited data, it shouldn't cost me and extra $20 a month just to push that data over the USB cable.
[Captivate General] xhozt:
Me thinks its time to fire up ipred on my phone .... let em try and scan encrypted vpn packets
[Captivate General] xhozt:
just got a nasty gram from att yesterday ... time to keep vpn running all the time while tethered you think ?
[Captivate General] Minor723:
Is there a guide to this keeping vpn running while tethering to avoid the tethering tracking?
[Captivate General] tal0s:
Would be nice to have answers to a couple of previous posts:

1) "Could it be carrier IQ?"

2) Does VPN effectively circumvent AT&Ts detection methods?

I see there are a few theories on how they find tethering. Packet scanning, MAC addresses, or APN. Does anyone have a definitive answer, and a definitive solution?

Disclaimer- I now pay for 4GB/mo tethering plan. No need to flame me for trying to "get away" with something. I only ask out of curiosity.
[Captivate General] mrhaley30705:
1) No. If you don't believe me, download and run Voodoo Carrier IQ.

2) Unknown about vpn, by me.
[Captivate General] Nucleartx:
The best guess at this time is by ttl. the packets have one extra hop then from being sent from the phone. Another guess is they are reading the info affixed to the end of packets on which device it's sent to.
[Captivate General] snguyen510:
Hey guys, not to get too off topic but quick question:

I understand that Mobile AP is a form of tethering and I actually tried it last night to have my gf's phone connect just to see if I could do it and just to get a quick Words With Friends game going on.

So I'm wondering, how much data do you need to use to get a warning and what are the typical procedures att take to notify you?

For example text then letter? or vice versa?

NOTE: I also have the grandfathered unlimited data plan for 3G phones.
[Captivate General] c0ldburn3r:
This topic has already been solved. It will take way too much effort and packet sniffing at the TOWERS to read TTL.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1269283
[Captivate General] snguyen510:
Thanks cold for the reply and link much appreciated!
[Captivate General] grndnl:
can I just say, the fact that AT&T can do this is bull****.
[Captivate General] c0ldburn3r:
Its shady but we all signed those contracts with the fine print stating we won't tether without a tether plan.

Clockwork has a application that is undetectable by the carriers, its in an alpha state though.
[Captivate General] Dazblu:
Good to know, it's a fair bit away but I'll be needing to use some mobile ap next christmas lol.
[Captivate General] snguyen510:
After reading the thread,

It seems like Mobile AP is the way to go. But at the same time the accusation of tethering seems almost random at times as well.

Looks like people are falling victim to applications that are using different data strings that indicate "tethering".

But its good to know Mobile AP is not as much of a threat vs. USB tethering.
[HD2 General] ricky.magalhaes:
Hi,

Does anyone know how to answer the HTC HD2 phone using the send key rather than just using the slider. since upgrading to the latest ROM on HTC site it does not answer the call anymore using the send key.

I have looked for an answer to no avail.

Anyone know how?

RM:)
[HD2 General] galilio_mad:
i dont think this is an option that can be turned on and off !!!!

i`ve flashed my phone so many times with official, cooked winmo & couple of android builds

the send key always works, never had a problem with it
[HD2 General] T-Macgnolia:
The only thing that could possibly have any control over the send button answering phone calls is a registry key. I am not sure if there is a registry key for this or not but it is the only thing that could control the send button being used to answer phone calls. With that said my advice to you is to try doing a hard reset of your HD2. I say this for two reasons, one this will revert any unwanted changes to your registry. Two you said this problem started after flashing the latest official ROM from HTC. Anytime you flash a ROM official or custom it is recomended to do a hard reset after flashing as this will fix any little issue that might arise from something not getting set properly.
[HD2 General] ricky.magalhaes:
Thanks for your replies, i have no idea why this still does not work after me applying hte suggestions. It must be software, the button phsically works with other apps but just not to answer the phone.

Might be something that is loaded on the phone....?

I will keep looking as this is not a nice thing to have to live with.

RM
[General Questions and Answers] dianaroelofs:
Hello,

I am new here on the site, and i really love this site. but if i want to download miui from Jan-willem, i cant.......I did try to find another thread but i cant find it. Please somebody help me.....:confused:
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Calcvictim:
I have a 4 gig external card in my vibrant and the last 2 updates of angry birds cause the phone to freeze. It's not when running the application but just the fact that it's on the card. The phone freezes during the scan of the external sd card(media scanner), if I pull out the card or delete the angry birds file then everything works without problems. I have not tried reformatting the sd card yet but was just wandering if anyone else came across the same issue?

I am running a bionix rom with voodoo enabled.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sdobron:
Never had this problem. Try backing up your external sd then format it.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Calcvictim:
so I reinstalled angry birds with the external sd card removed and after reinserting the external card it now works....it looks like the card did not get corrupted but the phone was getting screwed up with the external install.....not sure why it installs angry birds to the external sd?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sdobron:
Mine installs to internal sd.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mirkec:
Hi!

can someone copy all files and folders from /system?

i don't have sound notification and ringtones :(
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crowds:
and why do you need all system for that? :p

go here download at the end of 1st post and install through xRecovery
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mirkec:
thanks dude!

i'm not hacker/cracker/... :P
[EVO Shift 4G General] danaff37:
You can read the article yourself. They chose the atrix for at&t and the shift for sprint - both obvious choices I think. Their choice for verizon and t mobile are bad I think though

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/kimkomando/2011-03-18-komando-android-phones_N.htm
[EVO Shift 4G General] JKILO:
They put a samsung in there too lmao

Sent from HTC Knight using MikShift..because CM7 got overrated like CWM
[EVO Shift 4G General] jesusice:
Good to see! Although I'm sure it's just blind luck, USA Today don't know ish about ish :)

^ Shift Faced
[EVO Shift 4G General] zeropants:
True. But they have the highest circulation in the US because just about every hotel chain gives them away for free every morning. That story will get a ton of views.
[EVO Shift 4G General] pengkha:
all i can say is that i'm pretty happy with my shift running mikrom.
[EVO Shift 4G General] farmsatguy:
Yeah, its a snappy phone with some really great features. I'm happy with mine...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] mmace:
EDIT: thank you for the link to the ROM, now I need help with rooting!

Anyone know the best & easiest way to root (and add xRecovery) the Mini Pro on 2.0.A.0.504?

cheers

original post:

My wife has an X10 Mini Pro, she really wants 2.2 for the addition features and apps only available to 2.2 (push notifications in Facebook, real time tracking in Latitude etc).

It's not rooted, but that shouldn't be too difficult (edit: me & my big mouth!), I've rooted G1 (a few in the olden days when it was more difficult!), Magic (adb), Desire, San Fran, Tab and Milestone as well as others.

I just wondered if there was a decent 2.2 (or even 2.3) ROM available, preferably one where the battery will do better than the stock 2.1 (it currently lasts 10 hours - 8am until 6PM and then turns off every day)

any advice appreciated

oh, and it needs to have WiFi, LED, 3G, flash, camera, video, keyboard light (used a lot at night in bed in dark when kids aren't sleeping well) etc working
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] PTGamer:
you can try the "FLOYO" rom by owain94....

se the link here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=961783
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] mmace:
thank you, I missed that one, all the threads seem to be laid out the same so I thought it was one I'd read before
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] mmace:
That ROM looks ideal, thank you

Is there an easy way to root?

I have found this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=950324

but the phone she has is on Build number 2.0.A.0.504, not v2.1.1.A.0.6 as the tutorial requires
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] darrie1:
Z4root is the easiest way for rooting .504, but for floyo you need .0.6.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] mmace:
thank you, will upgrade it tonight
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] M4rL0nV:
Yup, you need to upgrade to .0.6. You could root the new firmware with SuperOneClick or use Bin4ry's Flashtool.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] litemint:
You can upgrade into .6 by using PC companion

or

by using xrecovery, and restore a .6 backup file.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] temes:
I first upgraded to 2.1.1.A.0.6 with PC Companion, and after that rooted with superoneclick.

It works fine.

Use this xRecovery:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=878427

Before installing custom ROMs, do a full backup via xRecovery!!

Temes
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carmeng4evr:
I was not sure where to post this at but alot of you guys are absolutely helpful

so i figured i'd post here and ask for your help. Sorry mods and i hope this

doesn't get moved!!! It is a little long so i apologize for ranting

I've been with Tmobile since November 2010 and i was told I would be able to

switch over to post paid from flexpay in 6 months which i estimated around April.

Good deal. I am on easpay(automatic drafting) and the payments are always on time. Last month, I paid my usual amount for one line. Cool, everything is fine.

A week or two later, i decide to add a line for my brother to get a phone. Being flexpay, i have to of course buy the phone and make a payment in advance for services as well as month in advance since it is in the middle of the bill cycle. Again, no worries everything is cool.

So low and behold the phone gets here and the same day it gets here, both his and mine line are suspended for nonpayment(even though i made a payment for both). I call in and talk with the reps from the Philippines and they tell me they can't find a payment.

So i am basically getting annoyed because i always pay on time and they are telling me i have not paid for either line.

So i used the trick and I called back and instead of using my number, i just typed in my friend's number(She is postpaid) and i got their division of postpaid customer service and explained the situation. They filed a lost payment and while they researched it, they reinstated my account. Eventually that was solved.

Okay, so flash forward to two weeks ago and the same issue occurs except this time I didn't make a payment nor was automatic payment supposed to take the payment out. It is due on March 3rd and it took the payment out

at the end of February.....

So i call in and dispute this and they what..."Can't find the payment" and they have to do another lost payment search and it will take 3-4 business days.

I go on vacation for Spring break and I decide to call in and figure out what is going on. I've given them nearly 2 weeks to fix it.

So now...

1)Can't find the payment(even though my checking acct shows it was taken)

2) They closed the case of the missing payment...Didn't contact me by phone email, text, letter in the mail or anything letting me know the case was closed and letting me know what else i could do or needed to do. They just closed the case and had i not called in, i would have never have known it was closed.

Basically they can not find a payment and even now that i have taken the actual checking out statement in to the store and had them fax it(while i was there) they are still telling me nothing can be found.

It's $101. I am not worried about this money. It is the principal of the situation and the fact that I do not want to be apart of a company

who takes money but can't find the payment.

I didn't mail the money or a money order. It is an electronic payment.

There should be footprints everywhere that shows a payment. And i

don't see how the same exact issue can happen in less than 3 weeks

apart.

any suggestions? what would you guys do?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darinmc:
The fact is, you have proof in the bank statement that T-Mobile collected money from you. Sounds like you're going to have to climb the supervisor ladder until you get someone who has some authority. They can't deny a payment when your bank confirms they took it, so it's just a matter of following it through to the end. As to how you view T-Mobile and whether you wish to stick with them, that's up to you.