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[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gvdn:
Here is how u should do it. All Credits to Perka and Flip and all members in Rom Kitchen team.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=926399

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[myTouch 4G General] lowandbehold:
Just wondering where the MyTouch rates as far as rooting difficulty? Are other android devices generally harder or easier to root? I have rooted 3 MyTouches with no difficulty at all, but it seems like some people have quite the time trying to get it done.
[myTouch 4G General] scr3wy:
Well the sticky root guide in the developer thread was pretty straight forward. It was my first time rooting and to me the guide was a lot less daunting than others I came across. But for some reason I lost superuser
[myTouch 4G General] lowandbehold:
Did you use the gfree method? The other ones seem hit or miss since the OTA.
[myTouch 4G General] scr3wy:
Ya I did use the gfree method. The su app is corrupted tho... Ive been rooted since last Month and this problem just started today
[myTouch 4G General] TJBunch1228:
My old mytouch was pretty easy, my Vibrant was ridiculously easy, my G2 was fairly easy and my MT4G was not bad at all. My hardest time was with my wife's MT Slide. I actually had to learn ADB for that one. Good knowledge but it was quite the learning process.
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
The MyTouchHD is stupid easy to root. I had it rooted with s=off before i even left the t-mobile store.

I'm in the same boat i have no clue why some people have such a difficult time rooting this phone.

the process i used was

Prior to even getting the phone

Download the VISIONary.apk and stored it on the SDcard

Download the root.sh script file

when i got the phone

installed the Astro File Manager via the market

installed the Term Emulator via the market

installed VISIONary via astro

Ran VISIONary

from the term emulator

$ su
# cd /sdcard/root
# sh root.sh

and i was rooted with s=off.. no clue why it's so hard to manage to do that.
[myTouch 4G General] redndeyes:
The method above doesn't work at least for me.... getting real irritated .... root just not sticking can temp root fine.... any advice ive tried over and over reading over and over i memorized the terminal part...pls help i really dont wanna do the gfree way just feels to dangerous to revert
[myTouch 4G General] lowandbehold:
I have only used the Gfree way. Yea it would take a little work to go back..but worth it.
[myTouch 4G General] lowandbehold:
Plus if it really came down to it I have insurance on my phone...I would just run it over and suck up the $100 for a new one.
[myTouch 4G General] option94:
Just use gfree. Its the only method that works %100 when done correctly.
[myTouch 4G General] LewsTherin006:
i tried doing this 3 times today and it didnt work at all. I cant get the superuser app to stay in my drawer, but i lose root. I guess i will have to try the gfree way. I tried it with both visionary 11 and 14
[myTouch 4G General] Robertmor86:
I had lots of problems using thoses ways too the gfree way worked for me.
[myTouch 4G General] Elvis_Freshly:
Dude, you guys are doing waaay to much. Safest, fastest most reliable way is always "Super One-Click"... click temp root.. then when its done click regular root. Now u gotta perm root with s=off. Then goto market, install Rom Manager and install CWR and your on your way.

Idk why everyone made it so complicated when its easy as hell the way i just said.

I was stumped reading it because I do NOT like adb at all. But i tried something and found it to work within 10 minutes.

Hope this helps someone out.
[myTouch 4G General] djmunster:
I wish it was that easy,i rooted every phone I ever has that could be rooted but this phone I cant get in to,for 3 months I cant even get su .no s-off nothing
[myTouch 4G General] Elvis_Freshly:
What do u mean u wish? I'm telling you that it works. I'm talking to you from my Glacier that i used that method on.

Shell root, then perm root using super one click. I promise you.
[myTouch 4G General] djmunster:
Then im doing something seriously wrong because I cant root this phone ,ill be more then glad for you to explain what im doing wrong
[myTouch 4G General] texastoast:
I only know that in my own experience it seems hit or miss even with gfree. I've personally attempted rooting 4 different mt4g's with gfree and only 2 of them worked. The other two would not set the system r/w no matter what method I tried (Visionary, one-click, gfree), so I could never get them to root. The two good ones rooted right away with no trouble.
[myTouch 4G General] redndeyes:
real frusterating

i cant seem to root this damn phone for the life of me:confused::confused::confused::confused: ive tried and tried and tried:confused::confused::confused::confused:
[myTouch 4G General] redndeyes:
Just tried the super one click way i must be missing something still s-on pls post what you did
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
Super one click is just a rooting too. It will not turn s=off.

You need to use the method i posted earlier

The same one can be found here, on TheUnlockr

. So i know for a fact it works on the grand scheme of things. Or you must learn the ADB commands and use the ./gfree method. there is no other way to do it.
[myTouch 4G General] :
I turned s=off with the h-boot method. Visionary method. Then followed through with super one click.

But you really dont need s=off as there is no variant of end-user experience. One click method is the safest way imo.

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[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
You like Royal Glacier?
[myTouch 4G General] lowandbehold:
LOL, wow my thread got raped..2 posts and off of the topic...so...gfree is the way to go...I was not questioning the difficulty of rooting the mt4g, I have done 4 of them using gfree with no issues...I was questioning the difficulty of rooting other phones..ie..harder or easier than the mt4g. I know every phone is different, just wanted to know which end of the spectrum we are on.
[myTouch 4G General] :
Yeah. I use heavy social networking. So HTC Sense fits my lifestyle well. Also i use QIK Video chat and i ustream daily and Front Facing Camera doesn't work with CM7 or the other 2.3 based ROMS. Being that i need those to work, i will stick to what works. So i like the fact it's "stock that's not really stock" lol.

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[myTouch 4G General] Nicgraner:
Hah I had mine rooted within 4 hours of buying it :D
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
The reason i asked if you like RoyalGlacier is this, earlier you said, and i quote

it would be physically impossible to put Royal Glacier on your phone without s being off. Their are TONS of benefits of being truly rooted with s=off. To say that is really kinda shallow. I will agree that just using VISIONary is the easiest and simplest way to get rooted, but without s=off there is not point of being rooted. Recovery images will not stick, flashing boot images or fonts will not stick. Themes are null and void. I understand where you are coming from but i think it was a poor choice of wording.
[myTouch 4G General] :
Your right but Visionary doesn't work for everyone really. It didn't work for me either but the s=off feature in Visionary method cleared the way for my Supet One Click Method that perma-rooted me.

I was saying those methods are hard to do clearly cause every Android type forum has flocks of newbs and semi-newbies who cant get g free or Visionary method to work.

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[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
the ./gfree method is most effective way to root a phone. It will work 100% of the time when followed and done correctly. The problem is you have people that do not take time to read directions, follow things step by step and they get something screwed up in the process. When i bought my first Android phone (mytouch3G) the only thing i had was phone casing that would power to a Engineering screen and a stock recovery image. I had to take the time to learn what everything was, and how it functioned. I was FORCED to learn if i wanted a working phone. When i got this phone i rooted it via the root folder script method. Then i flashed the PD15IMG and rooted via the ./gfree method and flashed the recovery image. Then i flashed the PD15IMG and rooted via the Cyanogen Wiki method. They all three work when done correctly. You're phone, My Phone and the phone that belongs everyone who is reading this, given they have a MyTouchHD, phones are created equally. Granted there are defects in the mix, but all the methods work, and they work correctly. The problem lays some where between the eyes of the one rooting and their fingertips, i'd say 95%+ of the time.
[myTouch 4G General] :
+1

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[Milestone 2 General] cobo_:
Hi XDA,

Does anyone have a mirror for the Optus SBF?

I went to download it several days ago but seems Motorola has removed them and I cannot find a mirror :(

Thanks in advance
[Milestone 2 General] Shellite:
I'll upload it somewhere tonight for you, providing I don't fall asleep soon ;)
[Milestone 2 General] DeadSix17:
http://www.death-force.com/downloads/Milestone%202%20Archiv/Firmwares%20%5BSBF%5D/

I have also updated -> http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone2
[Milestone 2 General] Shellite:
Wish you'd responded a little sooner, would of saved me some screwing around!

/me cancels his upload.
[Milestone 2 General] DeadSix17:
Ive posted the link like weeks ago.. isnt new.
[Milestone 2 General] Shellite:
Heres another thread with all the SBF's mirrored: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=994726
[Milestone 2 General] cobo_:
Hey guys,

Many thanks for the links; I now has the Optus SBF downloaded ready for use whenevers I needs it :-)

Also, I swear I posted a reply to this to thank you guys a few days ago; but it's not here...weird :S
[Milestone 2 General] fourl6:
Hey guys could someone upload a optus SBF again, all the mirrors are down

Thanks, Cam
[Milestone 2 General] MegaBubbletea:
Wait...are all these SBFs the Froyo version?
[myTouch 4G General] TJBunch1228:
No one in my life cares except for my XDA family..

I just got the dreaded text from t-mo and was immediately throttled to .006mbps. Seriously, FML. I have like 20 days left in my cycle. ARRRRGGHHHH

I even was desperate enough to try the (now defunct) alternative APN internet1.voicestream.com. I even tried internets 2 and 3!!!

God forbid I run into any feral cats on my walk home, because I am going to punt something and I prefer pine cones, but homeless cats fly further.

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
[myTouch 4G General] mmanjj:
Happened to me last month. It sucks balls bug time. Sorry dude, calling tmo wont help either trust me....
[myTouch 4G General] TJBunch1228:
Does anyone know if buying tmos tethering plan increases the cap?
[myTouch 4G General] Sfkn2:
It does not.
[myTouch 4G General] coupetastic-droid:
I get throttled every month. I make good use of my phones browsing. Its starting to annoy me. My cycle ends on the 21st and I been throttled for 2 weeks now.
[myTouch 4G General] Chadastrophic:
The way to get around data throttling is to have a friend that works at TMO and use their unused $5 employee data only plan. I now effectively have 5 more GB on a spare SIM card. :D Once I get throttled on my MT4G I start tethering on my MT3G.
[myTouch 4G General] TJBunch1228:
That's pretty nifty. Now only if I knew any tmo employees...:confused:
[myTouch 4G General] Chadastrophic:
Your only 4 hours from TMO 's headquarters. Take a road trip, find a bar close to HQ, and find a group of ppl w TMO phones.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] solaresdonis:
This is a new part it was for my vibrant but I don't like the banding on it so I'm gonna sale it it'll be cheap PM me if you want to know the price
[Android Software Development] smaskell:
Hey guys,

I'm writing an app to display comics from a website and I'm wondering what the laws are with this. If people use my app instead of going to the website, they would not see the ads, therefore costing the website money. Also, if I put ads in my app, I'm making money by using someone else's content. This doesn't sound right. At the same time though, one could argue that this is really no different from making a web browser. All I'm doing is displaying information that is publicly available to anyone. Anyway, any clarification would be excellent.

Thanks,

Samuel Maskell
[Android Software Development] vamp6x6x6x:
Well, the way I see it is now in days its well...you could get a way with it...

I mean its the same as if someone were to make a website that copies from another website but the copy ends up being better then the original...

I mean, I am sure that their was meant to be copyright laws against this, but its way to late to start enforcing them because now in days most sites do copy other sites...

So actually it is just a matter of if it would bother you that the owner of the site looses a tiny bit of money.
[Android Software Development] add144:
Since you aren't displaying the website in its original form, you are pulling copyrighted content off their website and displaying it in your app without their consent. I doubt anyone would bother suing you, but at most I could see the website trying to get the app pulled from the Market.
[Android Software Development] vamp6x6x6x:
On that note a question comes to mind is it the site owners comic as in did he make it? Because if hes not even the original maker of it hes problem not going to even try to get ur app taken off mainly because overall he would have done the same thing; plus I dont see the app effecting the website to much...Well, unless ur making 4-5 apps(iphone, ipad, android, android honeycomb, windows 7).
[Android Software Development] smaskell:
The site only displays original content, but yeah, I don't think they would care too much. I'm not particularly worried about getting sued or anything. I really don't see that happen. I just figured I'd ask to see if anyone had had a similar experience in order to avoid running into any problems they might have seen. Anyway, I'll just publish it when it's done and if he asks me to remove it, I'll do just that. Or maybe I'll send the guy an email and see how he feels about it..

Anyway, thanks everyone. You've been very helpful.
[Android Software Development] burtcom:
In the US it's illegal. The following refers to web sites but an app is really the same thing...

http://mason.gmu.edu/~montecin/copyright-internet.htm

When creating a Web page, you CANNOT:

* Put the contents of another person's or organizations web site on your Web page

* Copy and paste information together from various Internet sources to create "your own" document. [You CAN quote or paraphrase limited amounts, if you give credit to the original source and the location of the source. This same principle applies to print sources, of course.]

* Incorporate other people's electronic material, such as e-mail, in your own document, without permission.

* Forward someone's e-mail to another recipient without permission

* Change the context of or edit someone else's digital correspondence in a way which changes the meaning

* Copy and paste others' lists of resources on your own web page

* Copy and paste logos, icons, and other graphics from other web sites to your web page (unless it is clearly advertised as "freeware." Shareware is not free). Some organizations are happy to let you use their logos, with permission - it is free advertising. But they want to know who is using it. They might not approve of all sites who want to use their logo.
[Android Software Development] whiteguypl:
There is no law stoping you from creating an app that would display a specific part of a website. If this was the case a browser would be illegal.
[Android Software Development] Rootstonian:
You need to think of this from its simplest case...the website that is being copied is YOURS.

Say you design a web page of some sort. A blog, some graphic icons, some CARTOONS. How would you like to see some Apple or Android app that all of a sudden has YOUR web page creations on it for profit? I would be pretty pissed :) And find a way to stop you. LOL :)

I would carefully check the web page for something like "No portion of this page may be reproduced or copied without consent of "blah, blah" in the fine print.

Similar to re-broadcasting sports game, or more common, DRM with regards to music files.

I would error on the side of caution :)
[Android Software Development] joey3002:
Bingo. Show me one case involving iphone or android and I will bow down.
[Android Software Development] crypta:
A browser displays the whole website - a major difference.

sent from my SGS, CM7 2.3.3
[Android Software Development] rpmccormick:
Not true. What about a browser that supports Flash vs. one that doesn't? What about a browser that doesn't even support CSS? I don't see how this law could hold up without making a browser illegal.

I have an idea I will share with you all now (hopefully some one will steal it and make a billion dollars, as I will probably never do it and I want to use this app). My idea is for a new kind of webbrowser that rips out all formatting (no css), and instead just grabs content and formats it according to user-submissions (3rd party css pulling content from multiple sites).

According to some here, this app would be illegal, however, I call it a new form of webbrowser, I do not include any content/pages, users do by creating a page format and linking it to content from any online source. To call this illegal is to kill innovation and is unfair since it is just a new form of page rendering and many different webbrowsers have much different page rendering for the same site.

If someone is serious about working with me on this project, please send me a PM.

EDIT: If you think about it, my idea really is what APPs are. Many people make many apps for 3rd party websites like Wikipedia, Facebook, Twitter, etc. My idea is one app to rule them all... a browser that works more like an app, and people make html scanners + page layouts instead of making full apps. The idea makes any and every webpage work like an app.
[Android Software Development] crypta:
The world is not fair - so why are you complaining?

You can do what you want, but live with the consequences.

Pulling content with the aim to alter it, is as a fact in most western countries illegal. If someone would want to provide only content, he would made an API, e.g. via Rest, SOAP or alike.

sent from my SGS, CM7 2.3.3
[Android Software Development] rpmccormick:
What about FireFox with Ad block plus? Is that illegal? It modifies webpages and prevents them from getting ad revenue.

What about simply blocking ads by adding "ads.* 127.0.0.1" to your hosts file? Is that illegal too?

A browser downloads HTML, and then downloads pictures and renders them on the page. Why can't an "alternate browser" download the same pictures and use them in an alternate html layout?

There are a ton of "fake" apps in the Android market that simply open a page in a "lite" webbrowser. Almost every "Chrome App" is just a link to a webpage that loads them fullscreen. Are they all illegal if from a 3rd party?

I think linking to any portion of web content is a free for all as long as you do not store and re-distribute the content. I think my argument would stand up in court.
[Android Software Development] crypta:
Adblocker are an infringement against most AGB/ Eula / Usage agreements.

And yes, I there are many offensive apps in the market. If you are in iran, mostly any violation against foreign law is legal - it depends on the country.

Better example: YouTube - most content violates local law, but YouTube, now Google has sufficient influence and money to deal with it. Do you?

sent from my SGS, CM7 2.3.3
[Android Software Development] Lakers16:
Your browser argument is stupid. The browser is displaying the original website. Hes talking about pulling copyrighted content off of a website, for his own profit. Those are completely different.

This is definitely illegal, but you probably won't get in trouble for it.
[Android Software Development] vamp6x6x6x:
Actually he was using the browser as kind of an example I believe...And what you just said sounds a lot like what other sites do(aka arcade sites, autoblogs).
[Android Software Development] alostpacket:
It's someone else's content. It's as simple as that.

If you want to make an app to display content you didn't create, then contact them the creator. Maybe you can write the app in excahnge for driving traffic to his cartoons.

The browser argument doesnt apply because browsers are general purpose applications that display any content the user requests, not specific content.

What it comes down to is intent. The same can be said for linking to pirated content.

Law is about nuance. Intent matters -- and this holds true in the digital age. You can't shoe-horn analogies of a broswer or linking or adblock onto this. Each of those holds a different purpose and accomplishes different goals by different means and most importantly for different REASONS.

Motive and intent matter.
[Android Software Development] HairyMerkin:
I think I might write about this subject in my blog!
[Android Software Development] somewhatdog:
Legally, you're breaking copyright laws in several countries by taking other people's copyrighted material and showing it in a context they didn't authorise you to.

Whether they'll sue - who knows - whether they'll get your app removed - who knows - the law, app rules and reality don't always meet. You can do something quite legitimate and have your app remove anyway and apps which break the law are often ignored.

The idea of context is quite important - as is intent - but generally speaking, taking someone's work and doing ANYTHING with it, without their consent, is violation of copyright (the 'right' to 'copy' their work).

p.s. if you were charging for your app, that would be worse again (arguably, you're passing-off someone else's work as your own).
[Android Software Development] crypta:
Even if he states the copyright - he uses a digital copy for his own good, fame, money - doesn't matter. It's an violation of copyright.

sent from my SGS, CM7 2.3.3
[Android Software Development] :
Yep...I have a website and I work hard to maintain it (usually LOL). Someone develops an app that's scraping my website and I'll be knocking on your door :)

However, should you nicely ask me for permission to do so, I would say 9.9 times out of 10 I'm going to grant you that permission. Given the app mentions this and possibly has link back to my site. That's a mutually beneficial agreement and everyone wins....that's a good thing IMO.
[Android Software Development] smaskell:
well this has turned into quite a debate..

I've contacted the owner of the website, though. Hopefully he'll get back to me soon but I probably won't end up finishing the app for quite a while anyway. App development always seems to end up being one of those things where I get really into it for a day or two and then don't work on it at all for another week or two haha. Oh well.

Thanks again for your help, everyone.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] rickytenzer:
Anyone having issues with the app registering touches on the screen? It's extremely random. Sometimes it registers just fine, but other times it has no idea where I'm touching.

I'm running the CM7 nightlies for the record.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] phantomgrave:
Yeah that happens to me a lot. Usually locking then unlocking the phone fixes it.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Dirk:
Sounds like the usual N1 screen inaccuracy issues. As above, screen off/on is the only cure.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] rickytenzer:
There are no other apps that experience this bad of an issue. Hopefully twitter releases a fix.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] PrawnPoBoy:
The new twitter is pretty buggy still. A recent update fixed some of the bigger ones though.