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[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
you are on gingerbread,and psneuter no longer works for temporary root. your best bet is to run an RUU to downgrade to 2.11.605.5 and then run revolutionary.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] i'manoob:
tried the down grade ruu in op and didn't work said main version was older

but my phone is showing recovery in bootloader?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] johnjay829:
just moving to a thunderbolt. it is running 2.11.605.9 .tried to run relv on it but fails looks like i need to downgrade but not finding a good walkthrough and help will be appreciated
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
*smacks forehead* :eek:

the downgrade in the first post is NOT 2.11.605.5.

go here: http://androidforums.com/thunderbolt-all-things-root/418539-thunderbolt-root-unroot-thread.html

in the 4th post are links. pick either a PG05IMG or .exe file for 2.11.605.5 your s-on hboot should let you downgrade from 2.11.605.9

i suggest using the .exe file. there are a couple ways you can screw up a PG05IMG(named incorrectly,unzipping,sd card formatted incrrectly).

here is your walk thru to downgrade:

download the .exe file and run it. plug in your phone when it tells you.

after its done youll be on 2.11.605.5 and can run revolutionary.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] johnjay829:
thanks for the info.. will give a try today.. any suggestions on a good rom to install
[Thunderbolt Android Development] i'manoob:
see i did not know that but i was able to successfully find a downgrade file and flash thru bootloader and re root via revolutionary
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Heelfan71:
Going to root for someone and want to make sure I understand correctly. I have downgraded to the ".5" firmware. After running Revolutionary, will I have to install SU , CWM myself or does this install that. Also , does the boot loader have to be unlocked ? I know HTC unlocked them but wasn't sure if I had to do anything regarding that. After getting root, will I stay at .5 firmware or can you flash a custom rom that has .9 firmware built in.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
nope,you dont need to bother with htcdev unlock.

all youll need to do,in a nutshell:

1)downgrade to .5 if youre on .9

2)run revolutionary

3)permanently or temporarily install clockwork(or recovery of choice)

4)option 1:flash superuser and stay on rooted stock rom. option 2:flash a custom rom
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Heelfan71:
Thanks for the info. If I stay on stock rooted, will the phone try and do the verizon update to .9 or will I be on .9 already after root?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
yes,you will be on .5 after root. your best bet to avoid update nagging is to install a rooted .9 rom or custom rom,and install the .9 radio thru hboot.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bline007:
I am picking up four smart phones today of which include the Thunderbolt. I was trying to prepare to root and the links on the first page do not work. Any suggestions
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bemyax:
Scroll back through the thread until you get to Scotty's recommendation on this. As I recall, his advice was sound.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
the only thing you need is http://revolutionary.io/,as was said at the top of the first post. if youre trying to download exploits,downgrade ruu,and custom upgrade, then stop. that method is obsolete.

if your thunderbolt has 2.11.605.9 in the software build version(check settings/about phone),then you can htcdev unlock,you can roll back to 2.11.605.5, or you can follow the directions in the first post here to root without haveing to downgrade(and wipe data) or htcdev unlock(also will wipe data): http://androidforums.com/thunderbolt-all-things-root/418539-thunderbolt-root-unroot-thread.html

:)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] lazarus2297:
i am trying to re-root a friends phone and he already has s-off but is not rooted.. I am trying revolutionary and it hangs at waiting for device.. I have adb working fine becuase i achieved temp root but the revolutionary tool won't find the phone any tips?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] lazarus2297:
I was using a Google adb driver when I dl'd the HTC drivers revolutionary went through without a hitch.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] guinzo:
how long you decide its have been hang...

i'm stick with it..my Thunderbolt will come within this week, and i will try to re root it with revolutionary...

or..have you try with another USB port on yer PC?

---edited---

lol, i'm just loling to my self, i have same problem with you, but the solution was very easy.

put this charm on yer root sdcard

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=929543&stc=1&d=1330774042

mirror

http://min.us/mVl18pzxB#1o

power up+vol down

choose boot to revocery

you will enter clockworkmod

choose zip from sdcard

navigate to yer charm (su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip)

reboot

voila, super user listed on yer app:D

enter market, download "root checker"

verify your root status.

done..do whatever you like lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pkopalek:
Is anyone else having revolutionary fail, by zergrush failing?

HBOOT is a stock S-On 1.04.xxxxxxxx bootloader

The phone is on gingerbread.

The link for the RUU isn't there, and I don't think I trust a google'd RUU as well as I trust one that jcase posted a link to.

Also HTCDev Unlock 'fastboot oem get_identifier_token' isn't a recognized command with the 1.04 hboot. I think that it might work with 1.05, but that step is not working with this phone.

Does anyone else have a better idea about how to achieve Root on this phone?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
zergrush exploit is fixed on software build #2.11.605.9. you can either downgrade,or temp root with fre3vo.

directions here
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yotie:
o i absolutely have to do "temp root" while running on 2.11.605.9﻿ ??? or is it just so u dont loose files?? or can i just go straight to revolutionary????
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scotty1223:
no,you cannot go "straight to revolutionary" the exploit used in revolutionary is patched in 2.11.605.9

your options are:

1)downgrade

2)temp root with freevo

3)htcdev unlock then flash a rom based on 2.11.605.5 or older

then you can run revolutionary. 3 is the most complex,and will void "all or parts of your warranty"

more info here
[Thunderbolt Android Development] driodman98:
I saw something earlier in the thread about Thunderbolt having 8gb of extra space that we normally dont have access to. I wanted to know how to get that. I am currently rooted with the revolutionary with s-off and I am running liquid smooth 3.2. However I do not see any extra space for the internal memory. Its maxed at 2.5 gb but my SD card has 32gb max. At this point what do I need to do?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
From what I understand the emmc is 8gb total but only 4gb is visible. Why is it like that? No idea.... But let's hope it was like that for ics preparation.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ihtfp69:
Pretty sure part of it is used for the data partition.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] baronmxc:
There was a thread somewhere that explains the missing memory. I will see if I can find it again. However, no matter what you try to do, you will never get to use this memory. The way its partitioned is what is making it unavailable to us but rest assured it is there and is being used by something. Again, I'll try to find that thread.

sent from my phone.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rajuabju:
I'm actually considering this with my TimeWarner cable.

Obviously going to wait to see how consistent my speeds are as additional 4G Devices get added on VZW's network (Bionic, etc)... but If I can maintain even just 8MB down and a few MB up... and if the hotspot works without issue, yea, I'm likely going to save the $50/month I pay for TWC internet.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nazo0:
lol i was playing black ops last night while tethering..getting no lag or anything. so glad i dumped tmob and got verizon
[Thunderbolt Android Development] :
wow... that was quick!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dickenam:
^^Holy $hiz!

Dear VZW,

Please give RVA some 4G love.

Sincerely,

Me + my new TB
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scottricketts:
Having some beers last night, and my buddy with the AT&T iPhone 4 (we just left AT&T) and I are talking about networks, and I mention that AT&T's 4g is just their old 3g rebranded, and he suggested we do a speed test.

HOLY COW

He got .22 down and .33 up

On LTE I got 1.8 down and 25 up.

I just laughed and laughed and laughed.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nazo0:
lol, i'm waiting for a temp root so i can take a screen shot of my phone and upload the pic showing all my speeds

lol my cousin and i went last night to bestbuy to pick up my preordered TB, both of us returned our iphones and picked up the TB, i can't believe i paid $ for a iphone, thank god i was within policy to return and exchange w/ the TB without paying out of pocket. droid for life.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] :
+1

modern warfare 2 on Xbox live is amazing. i previously tried to tether on sprint wimax and it was unplayable. like a whole new experience now and only one half second lag in 30 minutes. lte has great in-building coverage and ping times!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jr4000watts:
Im dumping my clear 4g internet today because of LTE I was using clear to re download all my games yesterday got speeds no higher then 400k with my thunderbolts hot spot I got speed of 1.8mbs!!!!! Games took around 30 min each to download :) (call duty ,left for dead and bad company. Can't wait for root and and the custom roms to come anyone wanna see Miui Rom on the thunderbolt ???
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nazo0:
where do you guys live that your download is that low? the lowest i've pulled in on here was 15mbs..this morning i pulled in 31mbs down and 16upload
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dbu:
Wifi tether?

Sent from my ADR6400L
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rigorx:
Keep in mind once Mobile Hotspot goes into normal pricing / usage May 15th, there is a 2GB cap per month for tethering. This info is per a posting from a mod over at AC forums.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rulevoid:
I would assume using the "Mobile Hotspot" app which is free for 2 months...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rulevoid:
You also must keep in mind that the phone's public rooting instructions will be released soon which will allow running of Android Wifi Tether which poses zero restriction to data.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dsb9938:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...bolt-instructions-by-team-andirc-v1-20110318/
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rigorx:
The iPhone4 on AT&T is a 3G only phone, so you weren't even seeing the AT&T "4G" speeds.

There isn't an iPhone release to date that makes use of anything faster than a 3G network (aside from Wi-Fi). I assume that won't be the case as of this summer, and am guessing Apple with release the "iPhone 4G".
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rigorx:
You must also yet again keep in mind, if you're pulling down massive amounts of data, as you may if you're using LTE to truly replace your home internet connection, VZW may call you up and not be happy, restrict your monthly usage cap, charge you overage fees, etc. It's possible it may go unnoticed as well. However, it's not uncommon for myself to pull down 80+GB per month on my Cox Ultimate cable connection, which would make me a little nervous going crazy in monthly transfer amounts on their LTE, especially if I was using a backdoor / root method to not have to pay for it.

Just my $0.02
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rulevoid:
You are absolutely correct. This methodology would work perfectly fine unless you are illegally pirating PS3 games or Blu-Rays from the internet.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nazo0:
nope, jus tether off my phone to ps3.

its funny because i was going to buy an extended router to extend my wifi to my game room outside, needless to say, i think the tb and verizons 4g took care of it :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scottricketts:
It's using the same HSPUA they're selling to Inspire4G people as "4G"
[Thunderbolt Android Development] drsuse:
the cap for the "4g" phones Atrix and Inspire are 300kbps roughly and the iphone goes up to 800kbps on avg.. i went to the att store to show them... then left the atrix for the tbolt i am in houston and get 10mbps dl and 2mbps ul
[Thunderbolt Android Development] azwildfire:
+1

Can't wait for the bionic though :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] drsuse:
LOL yeah AT&T does suck but motorola locks everything down and makes it impossible to make your phone "free" i DID root my atrix, but that motoblur was garbage and slowed the dual core cpu down a lot. the memory was good, but my tbolt feels alot faster. even with the bloat
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rajuabju:
If the Bionic was an HTC phone... I'd be all over it. But I've sworn off Moto.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] lp4261:
That's funny, i've sworn off LG. Never owned a moto device
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Nic2112:
Tempting but looks a bit out of my league, never worked with ADB.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ufmace:
Cool first step, but I'd rather not data wipe my phone right after I finally got it set up the way I like it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] destroyerbmx:
i am with you an the wipe, I will hold off until we have a root method for the current from or we get clockwor. Just root isnt enough for me to wipe everything yet, and too rieky for battery issues.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] LeoD:
just a FYI for you guys

the instructions are right on the money. rooted flawlessly. glad to be getting rid of all that bloatware. even though I just got my tb at about 3pm today. had to charge it. then act it. then went right to rooting it. lol so my setup starts now without all that damn bloat!!!!!

congrats on the team for a great job well done. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bowtieduece:
Thanks for the hard work! buying you a beer! lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrjinglesusa:
I'm curious, after rooting and removing bloat, how much space on your internal storage is available? Stock only has about 2.5 GB available out of the 8 GB internal storage. LOTS of bloat in there (probably VZ Navigator maps).
[Thunderbolt Android Development] LeoD:
Still removing garbage. I'll let you know in a bit. Right now I'm running tb just in case
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mycomputerisjunk:
For the people who have rooted, notice any issues with the older firmware?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] runhopskipjump:
I successfully rooted my thunderbolt with the instructions. I used the su and superuser.apk from the xoom zip. Unfortunately I can manage to get titanium backup working. I would love to backup my appear before I remove the bloatware. Next task is to change the lcd density.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] LeoD:
In tb click on problems, then download busybox. Works fine
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bokechukwu1:
How is the battery life and what is the difference in this old firmware versus the new firmware
[Thunderbolt Android Development] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Congrats on the quick rooting!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Stryker10thmtn:
All those concerned with the "downgrade"...

Haven't seen any difference short-term with battery life... if anything I think it's a bit BETTER.

Here's why I see they had to delay the release:

BLOATWARE. Seriously, there is a ton of different bloatware on this version. MORE. But here's the kicker: I get to kill it dead now.

Also had a link to download Skype Mobile with Video... but that doesn't exist (yet). I'm no expert at deep diving code to get to the nitty gritty, but from a quick glance, that's the only real difference I have noticed so far.

If my 4Gs turn into 4Fs, a devil jumps out of my screen or the kickstand turns into a flaming sword, I'll let you know, otherwise, if you're impatient like me, LET THE GAMES BEGIN!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] runhopskipjump:
Thanks it worked. I had tried it previously but it failed. Now to play with the LCD density and wait for cwm goodness. Anyone else witnessing their thunderbolt remain at 1024 MHz without decreasing to a lower frequency? Also "Android System" in watchdog app seem to be using a lot of CPU. It is always above 88%. Is this a bug? It only runs at about 12% on my nook color w/ cm7. I am not even sure if the profiles I set in setcpu are working.

Anyway I am excited and looking forward to tweaking the hell out of this beast. I will definately contribute once I make my deposit.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dino325:
sent donation for some sodas. Thanks for your hard work guys.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrjinglesusa:
Patience everyone! It appears they found a way to gain S-OFF and custom recoveries!

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/

I'd hold off a bit on using the "old" method until they post instructions for the new method that will give us S-OFF and custom recovery.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] eleazar123:
Wow, that's awesome. I might just have to pick this up. :D Coming from a Fascinate, I can't imagine how nice it will be to have working source code from the start!

Looks like the phone is getting really nice dev support already too. S-OFF + Dev support = WIN! :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Bimmer323:
Holy crap, you guys are amazing, thanks to all of you for digging into this thing so fast.

Protekk and Trident, can't thank you guys enough for puttin it on the line.

My wife told me last night that I couldn't get a TB "until they rooted it". haha

Now.....I have to go spend some money. :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Fodizzle1978:
Hellz yeah!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] TNS201:
Great work guys!

Glad my phone was nearly dead last night when I read about the first method to root. Didn't really feel like reinstalling everything. It would be nice to just get root, the backup everything with Titanium Backup.

People who are rooting your Thunderbolts once the method is released, you should get the following apps on market.

Root Explorer - This is a great program to have, makes getting rid of bloatware easy and has tons of great features.

AdFreeAndroid - Free app, gets rid of ads in apps from market

Titanium Backup - Buy the full version, you can backup all your apps, and then restore them. Great for people who have ROM flash syndrome. With paid version you can save multiple backups of the same app and backup all your app data, like game saves, etc.

Then restoring is best with paid version because it restores automatically all your apps you backed up and links to market so you can get updates. With free version, lets just say restoring more then 10-15 apps would be really annoying, you have to yes and ok I think to each app it installs, while paid does it auto. Makes restoring all your apps a breeze and beats redownloading the apps by hand in the market and the market never will download all your free apps automatically and wont show up in your market app list. Its best to do a full wipe before every ROM to avoid problems and then restore your apps with this each time.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mycomputerisjunk:
You can get rid of the bloat ware with Titanium Backup as well.

At the very least I would recommend doing a Nandroid backup in Clockwork before doing any bloat ware removal because some HTC Sense widgets/apps rely on other apps unrelated to what your trying to remove. I have put my phone in bootloop a few times removing stuff that was not suppose to be removed.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] superchilpil:
My bad!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] setite:
I cant wait. I want to add an app to the ROOT APPS TO GET.

Autostarts - This app will give you a list of every event and what apps start on them. You'd be surprised how some apps start when they shouldn't. Like when you remove an app, a bunch of apps start. It may not be as simple as that, but I have been using this very successfully on my EVO to curtail excessive behaviour in apps to great effect.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bobtheelf:
Ugh, *NOW* you tell me......
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mzmartipants:
insert innuendo here

Ha! That's awesome that your wife demanded that. There are some of us that demand root access... :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrbracht:
I can't wait for the unrevoked root method since I'm to dumb to do it this way
[Thunderbolt Android Development] itsmikeramsay:
I have to learn how to use that. Does it automatically start Google framework stuff, or do you have to set that as well?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] vitsdroid:
its not difficult to use adb, just follow the instructions. I know it looks overwhelming but once you do it a few times its very easy. Plus it may come in handy at a later time.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] macdonaldj2:
Seriously, as long as you follow the instructions you're golden, although unrevoked is easier, where is the fun in that?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Fodizzle1978:
Thought you guys would like this.....getting closer!

https://github.com/slayher/android_device_htc_mecha

CM7 for Bolt already being compiled...Go Slayher!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Ovrclck:
woohoo!! I miss CM, my Eris ran great with it. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mseliga:
Huh, good to know.

EDIT

Nevermind, Im and Idiot.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Ovrclck:
yep :D 10char
[Thunderbolt Android Development] redtechjunky:
What's up with the wait on the how to?, what happened to instructions in an hour?

Sent from the Swag ThunderBolt-ADR6400L using XDA Premium App
[Thunderbolt Android Development] arcanexvi:
I wasn't gonna say it...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gregdalfonso:
As far as I'm concerned take all the time you need. Doing all of this in your free time is greatly appreciated, and the progress so far is more than I could have asked for
[Thunderbolt Android Development] drsuse:
+1
[Thunderbolt Android Development] PorscheGuy:
+1
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nygbaby91:
I agree totally..these guys are crazy smart and amazing at this stuff, and doing it on their own time to boot, so rushing them or questioning them seems very inappropriate to me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] UndergroundWire:
You guys are the best. I can't wait to get the bloat out. I don't have root on my phone but I thanked the OP because there was never any doubt in mind that the genius on XDA can't roo this device.

Huge props.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] UndergroundWire:
+1

+1

You know how long us Droid Incredible users had to wait on perma root for the device. This is nothing. You guys are absolutely brilliant.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mb02:
Seriously. Took like two months. S-off took even longer and the initial root process involved ridiculous amounts of luck. This makes me that much happier I chose to get this phone. Keep up the good work guys, it really is appeciated and amazing.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] destroyerbmx:
This is why I waited and didn't downgrade and root
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jbh00jh:
Great job devs , super fast work. Hope we can get an easy how to when it is ready. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mykenyc:
Yea I don't care about the rom as of now. I just want this friggin' bloat out of my phone. I'm patient with everything else though.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] arcanexvi:
This.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] macdonaldj2:
I take back what I said earlier...I think i'll wait for the unrevoked method, I just read how to root it, and I work in tech and I don't feel comfortable doing it... :( ...thanks though to the OP for getting this done so quickly
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nygbaby91:
That root method is not to be used anymore..its in bold on front page..we are still waiting for the updated method ..