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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazyboy0172:
I have never used spare parts in my life so bear with me; but when opening it now all I see is device info including battery history, battery info and usage stats, and general options which all have to do with animations, font size, haptic feedback, or compatability mode. I don't see anything that talks about wake lock in here
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
You click battery history, then on the first tab, click partial wake lock, and on the second, you can click since last boot.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazyboy0172:
thanks! under partial wake usage since last boot, it's hardly nothing.

Android system is by far the winner with almost 11 minutes of usage, email is next at just under 2 minutes, facebook at about 1.5 minutes, and a couple other things (dialer, sms, google voice, google services) all coming in between 5 and 30 seconds.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Hmm...are you in a bad signal area or leave your radios [3G,wifi, 4G] on all the time?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazyboy0172:
I suppose I have 3g on. I never leave wifi or 4g on and my signal is between -85 and-96, according to battery info my time without signal is 0%
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Well you should turn your 3G off when not using it, that'll definitely save your battery.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazyboy0172:
I will try that in the future, but it still does not explain why I am getting 1/3 the battery life I used to while doing much more to conserve battery. Could it have to do with my pri and prl and such? Maybe I need to update profile and such, like it's not looking for the right towers? I don't know much of anything about how polling and service works.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] countryfried:
What's your wake time vs. your up time?

It sounds like you have something staying awake.

Have you gone to menu>setting>About Phone>software information to see if your PRI version & NV have been downgraded?

What kernel are you using?

Are you using RA or Clockmod for recovery?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazyboy0172:
I'm not sure how to check wake time vs up time, but it would likely be useless right now, as I nandroid backup, flashed a sense rom, updated my prl and profile, checked to make sure i did downgrade pri/nv and then went back to cm7, so any battery info it is going to give me right now will be inaccurate while I wait for it to charge/discharge again over the course of the night. It does still have my previous information though since it was a nandroid backup and I've had it plugged in entirely since then.

I did succesfully downgrade to 1.77 PRI

kernel is savagedzen 0.2.1 cfs havs wimax GB (2.6.37.4)

RA for recovery.

I also uninstalled a few programs including facebook and twitter in case there was anything like that interfering with my services. I still use Go contacts and Go sms however, but I have unchecked any options with them to have facebook integration. If you could tell me how to check up/wake I can check that tomorrow morning when I wake up to see and go against whatever I had. Currently I'm just trying a few things out before tonight to see if anything had helped. An idle phone sitting on my window sill for 8 hours should not drain the battery THAT much, so something is off.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] countryfried:
Go back into men>settings>about phone>battery (you can check it now)

If your up time and awake time are the same, you have a program that's stuck in wake. I also use a program called "system panel" that will show me live time which programs are using the most resources. OR you can use "Battery Monitor".

If you have wifi at home I would suggest you set up your phone to connect to wifi and shut your 3g off. I use a program called "Y5-battery saver". It automatically connects me to wifi at home and disconnects and switches to 3g when I'm away from the house.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazyboy0172:
attached is a screen grab of the graph from battery info

if needed:

cell standby says time on 15h 44m 47s (same as time listed on battery)

phone idle says 14h 46m 58s

(these 2 items used 47% and 44% respectively

thanks for the wifi tip, i used it on sense a lot but with most aosp roms it causes problems unless you set it to never sleep, and i didnt know what that affect it had on battery so i usually just turned it on when necessary or when in a low-signal area like school.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
That doesn't seem that bad for ~14hrs on battery.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazyboy0172:
my problem is that it's while I'm sleeping. I used to get 36 hours of battery before getting to 15% and being told to plug in, and now I used it a little last night, went to bed and woke up to it being at 28% and was told soon after to plug it in. I just dont remember sleeping destroying battery life like that in the past. granted 15 hours isnt that bad, but when 10 of the 15 hours the phone is just sitting there it worries me because if I were to go through a normal day, where I charge it at night and use it during the day, there is just about 0% chance that I'll be able to make it through the day without plugging it in sometime in the middle.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] countryfried:
yeah, that's not bad. You're still at 87%? LOL. Maybe I need to switch to AOSP ROM!:D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazyboy0172:
I'm Back to 87%, I've been on the charger all day, hence the battery graph raise. the dramatic raise was from when I flashed the sense rom to update my profile/prl. (obviously it wasn't monitoring during that time and when i came back and started monitoring again the battery was much higher)

it actually died after ~15 hours, with 10 of those 15 hours having doing nothing. I got systempanel to see if it gives me any more info and the main reason i use aosp is because of the terrific backlight handling. I like it to be super dim while inside and bright outside, and find on sense roms the auto backlight is too bright under normal conditions. I should be getting much better battery life than this. I'll try again tonight with the battery being monitored to see whats up and I'll try going into airplane mode tomorrow to see what that does at night for comparisons sake. hopefully there is just some program using lots of data that I don't know about. i'd love a quick fix lol
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] countryfried:
It's almost as if there's an Evo "battery curse"!!!!!! It has been HELL finding a ROM that I love that has great battery life. I really liked Myn's but for some reason I could NEVER find a kernel that would give me great battery life. I'm currently using ultrablakk 3 by King's and love the interface, just trying to find the right kernel myself. I think I'll do a nand and try an AOSP for a change. Vaelpak looks stable. Good luck with the battery life issues!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheEdge88:
I'm using an unrevoked-rooted evo and at 10% wake time, it lasts for about 15 hours unplugged. That is why I usually keep it plugged in whenever possible. I have task killer and do not synch anything except for weather and news. I do have 3G running all the time as well. I wouldn't do that if it weren't for the email checks (4 accounts checking every 30 min). If the 3G could be automated to turn on during the checks, that would save more battery life, but I don't know of anything to do that yet.
[Captivate General] bobapunk:
Ok, a little back story.

I screwed something up on my Captivate (at&t 2.2 + rooted + SuperCurio KB1+Voodoo Kernel w/ CWM) trying to install a different launcher via SGS Tools. I figured a workaround by grabbing Launcher Pro and Home Switcher from the market and have been running Launcher Pro since Thursday Night (it is now Saturday morning).

I usually get home from work and have 45% or more battery life left. Yesterday (first full day on Launcher Pro) I had about 20% left when I got home. I had read some unconfirmed reports of Launcher Pro causing excessive battery drain. I was not sure if that was the issue of if the time I spent fiddling around with the settings and shortcuts caused the extra battery usage.

Last night I did a full charge with the phone on, turned phone off and let it charge till full, turned back on to verify it was 100%, reboot into CWM Recovery, clear battery stats, clear Dalvic Cache (in case twLauncher was still hiding there), and put the phone in Airplane mode. When I checked the phone 8h and 45m later it had 91% of the battery remaining.

So, is using approximately 1% per hour in airplane mode normal/acceptable? Or is Launcher Pro causing excessive battery drain?

Right now I have 89% left (Flight mode was turned off and WiFi 1h 10m ago). Battery use shows Display 53%, Phone Idle 25%, Cell Standby 12%, and WiFi 10%.

Thanks!
[Captivate General] stevesteveLA:
1% per hour on airplane mode seems about right to me. That would mean it would take you over 4 days to drain completely...

In the past, I've used LauncherPro and didn't experience any problems with battery drain. I'm on ADW now. It has the same, if not more functionally, as LauncherPro. Give it a try and see if it helps your battery life.

Captivate CM7
[Captivate General] crystalhand:
Agreed i just got back from a trip to kenya in which i kept the phone on airplane mode the whole time I had screen on about 15 minutes per day and had a 2% power drain per hour
[Captivate General] liquidzyklon:
To the OP, even though you are using Launcher Pro right now, do you still have the other launchers (Home Switcher, etc) still running? Maybe try forcing close all other launchers that you are not currently using. This will make sure they are not draining your battery.

This is my personal experience, subjective of course, I found custom ROMS drained battery faster than stock Rogers ROM for me. I've started to use Launcher Pro last night and from 10 PM to 6 AM (8 hours) the phone still showed 100%. Nothing was running except phone signal.
[Captivate General] bobapunk:
I looked in settings/applications/manage applications/running and I do not see any other launchers running; nothing in running services either.
[Captivate General] bobapunk:
Quick update, because I know you are all wondering...

I flashed back to stock 2.2, rooted, deodexed, sideloading enabled, CWM, Voodoo lagfix, Plumb bob GPS.

On air plane mode, over 8h 50m, I used 7% of the battery.

So, this totally non-conclusive/non-scientific test shows that LauncherPro might use slightly more battery than the stock TW. However, I am already missing the 3d ap drawer, scrolling/customized dock, and home screen animations...

Now to decide if those features are worth the almost 30% higher battery usage...

I think I will have to try ADW and a few others to see if I can get the same look/feel/customization as LauncherPro without the extra battery drain.
[Captivate General] mephisto.crc:
Im starting to guess its a price you pay for using non-stock apps.

I have a captivate, and with stock 2.1 after a full charge at night and around 10 hours in sleep mode with wifi on (overnight sleep), it would consume around 1-3% battery.

After flasing my first 2.2 (cognition v3.04), it would consume, under same conditions, around 13-15%, then its been getting worse (cognition 4+) to the point it would`ve turned off by morning, not at full charge, but it would consume around 30-40%

Done the fixes, done the upgrades and patches. Done the installations too, the uninstalls and the monitoring. Problem persists.

I really like Cognition ROMs, and love 2.2, so i really find it hard to have no option but go back to stock 2.1. I would, perhaps, trade off battery life for Cognition v3.04, but i believe is a huuuuge issue.

Reading throughout forums i see that users find "normal" their battery life lasts for a day or even a "working day". Back in stock 2.1 my phone would easiliy last for 3 days on the same charge, with light use.

I'm back to stock after trying Cog 4.2.1, just to make sure im not imagining things.

Other thing i noticed was, with stock, my battery indicator would (i would say) refresh more consistently according to actual battery charge. With Cog ROMs i've noticed battery drains in "chunks", for example, i do a full charge 100%, play for 10 minutes, check other things over the internet and the battery would remain at 100%, then sleep mode. I turn it on a couple of mins later and then it shows 80%, making actual battery consumption more difficult to determine.

Not scientific at all, but my own experience.

Long story short and to answer your question:

Stock ROM appears to consume less battery

Users find that 1 day battery life is the norm and acceptable

**EDIT**

So I found a working combination... Cog 4.2.2 with overstock 1.1 kernel... It's wonderful so far. With my usual usage, i can see it lasting a good 2 days or even more on a single charge.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ptfd139:
New Atrix owner previous with that crazy fruit place.... LOVING Android wish you people would of told me about this sooner :D. I know the atrix comes with flash installed but I see in market place there is an app also..... do I need to install the app itself?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hondaguy:
there is an upgrade to flash 10.2 in the market
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ptfd139:
Yes... but do i need the app on the phone or is flash in the OS
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Clienterror:
Yep you need to update this included flash app with the one on the market.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hondaguy:
It's an upgrade to the software that is already in your phone
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dLo GSR:
if you don't want to upgrade, what you already have on your phone will work fine.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svprm:
Now I rooted my mobile using unrevoked method.

All working well.

Now I want to install custom Rom .

Now my mobile was S-on.

So,how to S-off to install custom Rom?

Or simply update a zip using custom recovery.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheGhost1233:
You don't need to S-off to install a custom rom. Zip and custom recovery will work.

If you want to S-off use AlphaRev, but make sure you know what you are doing and understand the risk.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svprm:
What is the main use of S-off?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svprm:
I Read and found it.

But I can't understand fully.

If S-on means, we can not access the system fully.

Is correct?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aeggedeler:
Some what correct. If you don't know what it does, don't do it. Non-advanced users doesn't really benefit from s-off and it has the risk of damaging your device. And It's not required for just installing custom ROMs. Reboot to recovery and flash the *.zip from your SDcard, reboot and enjoy.

I would link you to the guide on how to root, but on my phone at the moment. It contains a lot of very good tips to new users on how to install custom stuff after obtaining root.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] kether81:
Hello,

I have currently running version 7.0.0 RC2 elelinux 1.5.

When installing from 0, I noticed you did not store the passwords for the wifi and downloaded applications.

As I've read, this is because the rom using GAPPS Light, and using GAPPS could be solved.

My question is if this would work, if it works any version to flash, if it affects performance, and especially that there are differences between them
[Hero, G2 Touch General] VillainRocks:
What is gapps light?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] dourokinga:
where can i get the gapps?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] findpranav:
gapps are usually the google applications such as the mail and the market some custom roms dont have them but u can find them with a bit of googling
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iwanthp:
is it counted as hdpi or mdpi?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iammodo:
hdpi

10char
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rex4u:
What these two terms mean actually ?

Thanks !
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iammodo:
Hdpi

High dots per inch

Mdpi

Medium dots per inch

Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azzledazzle:
a bit like pixels on a TV then ?? where the 'dots' are pixels ?

i always wondered what it meant but never bothered to look it up lol.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iammodo:
Monitor and printers tend to use dpi.

So I assume its the same.

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Captivate General] sold1erjjt:
Okay, just remember this is a total rumor, and complete speculation at this point.

This article says that it is "likely" that Samsung will be the first handset maker to provide 2.3 Gingerbread to the U.S. Cellular carriers.

http://androidandme.com/2011/03/pho...the-first-gingerbread-updates-to-us-carriers/

***This is complete speculation, has nothing to do with any of the updates of late, this could not even mean an update for our phone. I am simply posting a link so that everyone else can know. I expect no flame in the thread, it will most likely end in a Close Thread. Take this thread for what it is.***
[Captivate General] OBatRFan:
Eh. 2.3 with the TW interface won't be so great anyways. I'll flash CM7 when it becomes easier to flash and more stable. But it would be nice to see Samsung and ATT pushing out Gingerbread earlier than everyone else.

EDIT: On second thought, I can almost see this purely because the first Gingerbread phone ever was Samsung.
[Captivate General] sold1erjjt:
Yeah it is very possible, but if it's true it could take a while
[Captivate General] flashman2002:
Just so you know CM7 is really stable for many users and the install process is easier then you might think. I would personally love to see just a system dump because that would make these dev's lives easier.
[Captivate General] sold1erjjt:
Yeah CM7 isn't that hard to install. Just follow the direction to a T.
[Captivate General] low99:
Don't think they'll release it any sooner judging on how long they took to release froyo.
[Captivate General] sturner83:
Sigh... Here we go again.
[Captivate General] sold1erjjt:
Yeah I know... but I posted it so hopefully we don't have a ton of newbs posting the same thing. I'm sure if it actually happens it would spawn many of random threads
[Captivate General] Seanbest:
WE CAN DREAM!

Right?
[Captivate General] bradleyG:
If you check the CM7 Q&A thread it says that its not likely that it will ever be a single zip install, so I don't think there's much hope for an easier install, although its fairly easy to begin with anyways. I'm running it right now and it seems bug free for the most part my only complaint is the camera app because its not as nice as the Samsung one but I can live with it.
[Captivate General] modest_mandroid:
Could be true.. Probably won't be OTA, but I wouldn't be surprised of the international galaxy s got a 2.3 update by the end of next month. They got 2.2 in what, September, October 2010?

I doubt we'll ever see an official 2.3 for the Captivate though.
[Captivate General] Pierce533:
Bleh, even if Samsung delivered 2.3 tomorrow it would still be eight to twelve months before AT&T could get it's act together and release the software for Captivate and that is if there is ANY plan to update Captivate. I won't hold my breath and really don't need their 2.3.
[Captivate General] sold1erjjt:
One thing nice, is that it could be a hint that the Internation Galaxy S is going to be getting an official release sometime soon, which in turn could translate into ports anyway that could contribute to even better custom ROM's. And i doubt it will come to the Captivate. Why when they are trying to sell a new device?
[Captivate General] JeffSchre:
+1

Just installed CM7 on my cappy Thursday took about 5 mins, just follow connexion2005's video linked in the CM7 thread and you'll have no issues. Just make sure you have the files downloaded and your phone flashed to stock before hand.
[Captivate General] zelendel:
Well one can hope but to be honest we will get a ported version long before an official version, that is even if we do get one with the Captivate to be considered EOL by ATT as of the middle of next month. Will it be OTA? God I hope not lol
[Captivate General] Sqb:
There already is a "official" release. CM7!

Sent from a rock on fire in the middle of the sea
[Captivate General] jake.corey.jacobs:
Would love to see this on the cappy, but lets face it, its not Samsung holding back most of the time, its ATT. =(
[Captivate General] OBatRFan:
I suppose CM7 isn't HARD, but I just haven't been installing ROMs that long and I've never messed with actual Odin before, just one-click. I'm pretty happy on Precision right now anyways, so I can't see myself flashing CM7 anytime soon. I don't get how 2.3 is so much better than 2.2 anyways.
[Captivate General] viny2cool:
I think I will never use Odin one click again...it hard bricked my original awesome phone and now i have to use refurbished...

but full odin is better and flashing CM7 is very smooth and awesome...little complicated to install...but that video should help...i flashed twice and i cant go back to froyo from it...

Feel of Gingerbread is better than any froyo rom..
[Captivate General] sold1erjjt:
Just with the 2-3 weeks I've been on CM7....its amazing! First its just plain fast, even in its developmental stage it's supremely fast. Secondly The small details, It has the glow effect when you get to the end of a scrollable list, which i think adds a nice touch. Lastly The CRT shutdown is really nice, I don't think I could go back after having it. All in all its really fun to use
[Captivate General] Hydro360:
Seeing as how t-mo rolled out the ginger to the nexus one when we got 2.2 I'm gonna say this is a bust
[Captivate General] a.vandelay:
sounds like a great publicity move. and any release is better than no release, no one has to install it ;).

but we already have cyanogenmod and miui, and for the xda crowd user built roms will always be preferable to samsung built roms.
[Captivate General] DAGr8:
Exactly how HTC got 2.2 pushed around months before everyone ..

Yes , fortunetely for us there is the i9000 devices and amny other similar device pushed by other comapines ..

nugh said .

As long as CM7 is in BETA phaze regardless of everyone's claim for stability ,

CM7 is runnig but by no means close to what some of us have experience on other devices . dont confuse what official actually means, on that note cmsgs team is doin awesome work
[Captivate General] cropythy:
T-Mobile had nothing to with that, the nexus line is updated straight from Google.
[Captivate General] eatonjb:
I look at it this way, thay come up with a version for the i9000 or whatever, that just means a quicker and more stable version for a Cryomod or something like that.

I rarely ever wait for my wireless provider to come out with an "official" rom, .

Eaton
[Defy Android Development] shad0wboss:
If i use jboogie's clockwork recovery on my untouched 2.1 eclair, would it be possible to recover back to 2.1 from 2.2 just using the clockworkmod? I mean, not even thinking about flashing a rom but just recovering one rom to another and vice versa?
[Defy Android Development] xdaid:
As far as i know you can't go back to 2.1 just restoring a nandroid backup with clockwork recovery.

Consider if you want to upgrade to 2.2, you have to FLASH China froyo 0.26 or flash part of other 2.2 SBF (take a look at the jboogie3 and fritolays instructions to install their roms), no way to upgrade simply using CwM and nandroid backups thus no way to downgrade to 2.1 w/o falshing.
[Defy Android Development] shad0wboss:
yes but the problem is that i can't downgrade to 2.1...last time i needed to send my defy to motorola and i really needed to downgrade to 2.1 but the phone went dead and i couldn't do anything...so how can i downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1?
[Defy Android Development] shad0wboss:
I need help please...