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[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Well WP7 has only one browser and few skins. Rendering is identical with all the good and bad consequences.

I am not asking you guys to need other options but it is sick that it's the only platform which still has no options. I like IE very much but I miss Opera Mini server rendering for fast browsing in worse coverage area. And I have few pages IE misses big time. No flash etc.

As for the Office, other platforms have DocsToGo which kills Office with one finger.

And now Softmaker will make Office for Android...

The Word implementation on WP7 is my huge disappointment. Almost featureless app.

It's the first time for 4 years I have to use PC to make basic editing like font style changing or inserting a tablet.

The same with email. The MS email client is so nice but at the same time is a pain. Not able to delete quoted message? Bummer. And very very often I don't see the pictures loaded or even worse, attachements don't show up so Ihave to open my email in the browser.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
No. It sounds like a person who likes to have a choice, especially compared to other platforms. And have had it previously.

WP7 is very far from perfectly functional device. We don't live in a camp where is only one truth for all. Accept the diversity.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
I never heard of Li'Messenger, but I did a search and someone said they took it off of Marketplace a month ago. True?

And isn't Messenger by Miyowa buggy? I am looking at the youtube video of it now. If this is a good client then I will get a new WP7 phone asap! :)

Does Messenger by Miyowa support group chat, delivered, and read notification, etc like Whatsapp?
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
That isn't a restriction, its an API that hasn't been implemented yet. There is no policy that limits people to Http Request and there is no switch they can flick to quickly enable it, outside of giving people access to the native APIs.

Says who? Opera could do it, they just don't want to because they would have to rewrite their codebase from scratch because they can't use any C++.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Really?

Read this:

http://wmpoweruser.com/surfy-alternate-ie-shell-for-wp7-having-a-hard-time-getting-to-market/

This was just about the new broswer UI..
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
Yeah, Li'Messenger was removed a day or two after release. No official confirmation as to why, but I'm guessing because it accessed the Live servers directly thru unsupported APIs. Rumors have it they are bringing out a new version adhering to the Live EULA though.

Messenger by Miyowa had an update just a couple days ago which made it a lot more stable. It's still a very basic app though and I definitely wouldn't suggest you run out and get a new WP7 device because of it.

TBH though, I don't think Messenger in a larger capacity will work properly on WP7 until we get a native client (apparently not going to happen) or the OS allows apps to multitask (H2 '11 - so Dec 31st :p). Even with live tile or toast notifications it's too cumbersome to use for anything but quick messages due to load/login times etc.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
So I went ahead and got the TB this morning.. and will probably hold on to the Sprint line long enough to see whats announced last week. A few comparisons..

Battery

Believe it or not the Thunderbolt battery is actually WORSE than the Evo. Its been off charger from full for a little under 5 hours and ive had to throw it on the charger already.

Screen

The screen resolution is better on the TB by a hair, not a huge difference.

Speed

Really no contest. But I guess thats pretty much a given with the newer processor. Opening apps is almost instant now with little to no load time.

4G

Really no contest here. I've been able to get 20 megs down inside the house with between 20-30 megs upload. No need for the "wait until more people get on the network" cries. I think we all know that even when the Evo first came out we never ever saw speeds like this on Wimax. Also the ping seems to be a good bit lower with LTE.

It seems to be a little heavier than the evo but the camera and the video are definitely much improved. I guess HTC finally decided to stop being cheap and use a different camera or something. Some will say it wasnt worth it but for me most definitely it was. All in all its a pretty solid phone. The battery thing is ugly though.
[EVO 4G General] Bielinsk:
I would expect the battery to get better after it is conditioned.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Oh and for some retarded reason HTC chose not to put a toggle on here to turn off 4G. So since i'm actually IN an LTE area with my battery life this low I can only imagine what its going to be like for those not in a 4G area.
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
Please, God, tell me this means you won't be crying about sprint anymore...Santa? Is it Christmas?

Btw, pretty sure the lack of a toggle was verizon's thing, not HTC's.
[EVO 4G General] Rydah:
hope they announce something that looks like the pyramid and has slightly better specs. i think a phone with the pyramid design and true 720p or more better, 1080p would be nice. 8 mp is good enough. tap to focus would be nice in the camera aswell.
[EVO 4G General] tgruendler:
The upload speed is a fluke. The speedtest app is flawed with the processor in the Thunderbolt. Do a speedtest in the stock browser and post those results.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
I'm confused. So you can't turn 4g off once you turn it on?
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
WRONG. There is NO conditioning period for lith ion batteries....
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
The EVO's battery life was pretty horrible at first. HTC then improved the kernel and others improved upon it even more. You should expect something similar with the thunderbolt.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
He probably means widget? I'm sure that you can go into settings > wireless/networks and toggle it from there. At least I would assume so.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Im still not pleased with Sprints service. Look at all of the posts on the front page here, clearly im not the only one.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
I think he meant there was no way to turn it off... which would indeed be the cause for horrible battery life, no matter what htc improves.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Nope.. you cant. Only thing you can do is turn off data altogether and thats what has me baffled as to WHY HTC/Verizon would do this. Its either 3G/4G or nothing.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Its not a fluke at all.. go to the thunderbolt forums and look at the speedtest speeds FROM the browser. Unlike wimax, LTE upload speeds arent capped.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
Yet. ;)

i am sure it will be faster then wimax even after there is more users, but probably not much to much faster.
[EVO 4G General] Bielinsk:
Not the battery itself, but the phone needs to learn the limits of the battery before it can accurately display the meter.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
So it would seem like their setting up LTE to work like 3g/1g then?

When LTE is available, it uses it, when it isn't it uses 3g? Just like when 3g isn't available it drops to 1g?
[EVO 4G General] strung:
My hypothesis would be to shunt as much traffic to the 4G network as possible, in effect freeing up 3G resources.

Also to automatically do Voice over LTE which will support high-definition voice.

And to make the user experience seamless.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
My guess then is that they plan to flip the switch on Voice over LTE sometime soon.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
It seems that way.. but thats going to be part of the issue. Its probably always going to be constantly searching for LTE killing the battery.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Might make more sense. WiMax doesn't takes forever to connect, maybe LTE to EVDO can hand off much more smoother. Don't know the technical details so this could be way wrong.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
That's definitely unexpected. I guess it is either something in the way LTE works that prevent them from it? Or maybe Verizon wanted it this way for some reason.
[EVO 4G General] tgruendler:
There is no way that you are getting faster upload speeds than download speeds. It just doesn't happen. There is a bug in the speedtest app that is causing false positives in the upload speed. There are tons of forums posts on different websites that say the same thing. Google it.
[EVO 4G General] Sword.Zero:
Well I can see why the 4g can be turned off the in the Evo, its a separate radio. Whereas in the Thunderbolt, I am assuming LTE is part of the Radio design (e.g. radio does voice/3g/lte together).
[EVO 4G General] popular nobody:
Voice over LTE is definitely not the reason for this blunder. It's available on my test device. Hopefully Verizon fix this huge mistake in their next update.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Comparison against a almost ye old phone? And according to your analysis its not too much better? Hmmmmmm well I guess in a few days the shooter will have it's first casualty. Death of the thunderbolt in less than a week. Wow.

Sent from my HTC EVO
[EVO 4G General] bronxknight28:
i doubt itll be dead on arrival like that. If devs pick it up and start doing fun things with it like on our EVO's then the TB can last just as long as the EVO's,

Also i heard you cant connect with HTCSense.com with the TB, is that true?
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
This is what I was expecting from this phone its like evo 1.5 with LTE. ITs nice but with all the new processors coming out duel core and such. I have been telling a friend and a co-worker to not do a two year on that phone. Not saying the phones blows or nothing but by summer there will something out on verizon worth doing a upgrade for
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
The only real advantages that the Thunderbolt really has, is the newer 45nm snapdragon SoC, and Sense 2.0.(If you root and don't use Sense like me, well then doesn't matter at that point). For LTE, while it maybe faster than Sprints 4g, but I don't think people with 4g support are complaining about speed. Battery, hell I wouldn't be surprised if you can use the same battery in the Evo and the Thunderbolt, haven't had a chance to see though.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
...no waiting needed. Droid Bionic - Tegra 2, 16 GB ROM, qHD resolution, HUGE stock battery, full HDMI mirroring. Should be released soon?
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
yep told my co worker about that,
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
The LTE alone makes it worth the upgrade over the Evo. And im sure when the Bionic comes out ill have that too. And people keep talking about dual core this dual core that, the question is WHEN is Android even going to be able to utilize the second core? Dual core or not it is noticeably faster than the Evo. No questions about it.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Sure if you wanna compare apples to peanuts. Next!!!!!!!

Sent from my HTC EVO
[EVO 4G General] goodlookscooks:
I think the evo will only be topped by the evo 3d... and any other "evo" after .. so on and so forth... anyone agree?.
[EVO 4G General] r916:
How can the screen be better when it's the same thing?

And you can't compare, the TB beats the Evo seeing as the evo is 8~ months old lol.

And in a few months when the dual core evo is released, sprint will have the king of android once again.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
im hearing the evo3d will not be released until way after this summer. more like a release in time for x-mas shopping.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Eh, announcing a phone in March that won't be coming out until November/December? Call me skeptical, but I'm not buying that.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
not out of the ordinary to do. sprint's target dates are june, october & x-mas shopping time. i have a sick feeling we may be waiting awhile for the nexus or evo3d.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Yea but have they ever announced a phone that they aren't releasing for another 8-9 months? I'm not arguing, seriously asking because I don't know.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
not sure tbh. i just know the target dates. im just saying i wouldn't count on a ton of great phones to be on the network by june.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
It would definitely suck, but I guess it would be closer to my upgrade time so I won't have to fork over and arm and a leg to get one.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
im sitting on an upgrade right now. so i hope either the evo3d or nexus s comes.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Lucky bastage~ Sprint did send me a loyal customer card, my choice of 75 bonus minutes or 5$ credit on my account! I'm so loved.

I still love my evo too, so I guess waiting a little bit longer isn't bad at all.
[EVO 4G General] Overstew:
LTE is ftw, it'd be totally stupid for sprint not to jump on it...
[EVO 4G General] IMiLL102911:
LTE is available in my area but I can't afford to pay Verizon's rates. Does the TB have gingerbread?
[EVO 4G General] Justin.G11:
LTE is in my area but I refuse to purchase from the Apple of wireless.

Swyped from my pants, I'll let you figure out how.
[EVO 4G General] androidrookie84:
I want TB so bad!
[EVO 4G General] zackdadams:
I've been watching this device for a while, reading all the Engadget posts about it. I'm just not that impressed with it. Besides the CPU, its no better than our EVO.

Guess i'll just have to play with one to decide.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
better? sure. not enough to justify switching carriers and being raped by verizon's fees.
[EVO 4G General] notasimpleway:
I have an upgrade in Sprint for 150. And I live in a small town that happens to be in Sprint's 4G area for some strange reason. Might be Clear though. I don't expect any other provider to have 4G here for a year or so.

So, my Evo is still the better choice. It isn't worth upgrading or switching carriers yet. I plan to get 5-6 months more out of this phone before I even consider anything. I mean why upgrade to something that is barely an upgrade? Or upgrade for something I can't even use(LTE) when I can use WiMax. Of course, I am still confused about my little town having WiMax. Just my opinion and thoughts though. I don't feel the need to get the newest phone right away unless it is a huge upgrade. Like say going from the Hero to the Evo. That is an upgrade IMO. Going from an Evo to the Nexus S isn't really.

Sent from my iPhone with the bigger Gee Bees.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Im sorry, but having both.. it actually is in pretty much every category other than battery. But if that helps you sleep at night *shrug*. Oh and ironically, for all of the same services I get with Sprint I only pay $10 a month more. Bonus is 4G I can actually use though.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
People keep saying this garbage but I get unlimited data, text and 50 minutes less than my Sprint plan for $10 a month more on Verizon. I dont know why people keep acting like a comparable plan on Verizon is $500 a month. In contrast I get better coverage and 4G in buildings. Right now with my Evo beside the TB I have 2 bars on Sprint, no wimax and 4 on the TB FULL Lte. Is it worth it? Definitely. Is Sprint cheaper, slightly.. but whats the tradeoff? Slow data, more and more dropped calls and texts that go through a day late sometimes now. I keep saying it and ill say it again, I realize now that you get what you pay for.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
No its not garbage. On verizon our family plan was 225... with ONE smart phone. Sprint our plan is 150... with three smart phones. hmmm... we use a ton of minutes. On verizon we had to be on the 2000 minute plan. On sprint we have the 1500.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
I would hope its better than a 9 month old phone. But its not worth even considering switching carriers for. Its not even the best phone on verizon. Enjoy it though.

Sent from my HTC EVO
[EVO 4G General] ksizzle9:
Brownhornet, I agree, as I have verizon for my personal use, and sprint as part of my use for work. (and i have EVO and now thunderbolt) the Only people that will argue that it's not worth having Verizon is people that don't have it. I live In 4g for both phones and sprints service seems like a mild 3G while LTE seems like 4g for real. Most people say go to the speed test website, well I did, and I can still get 20mb/sec down and up, without a hitch. Where as on sprint, seeing anything over about 7-8 would be a huge feat, given sprints 4g isn't all that great but it gets a good enough signal to compare. Not only that but the new snapdragon is far superior to the EVO, or the Dinc I just retired to use bolt. But in FPS test the bolt is also much, much stronger which tells me this phone has much better gaming capabilities. Summed up in one word if I was asked if the bolt was better, FAR, far better than the EVO, but to the EVO's credit, it is a 9 month old phone. But to say the EVO was a king when phones like incredible(same phone, smaller screen) were around, is likely true. Although, it was no better at anything but having a bigger screen. That is it. So hornet, I am in complete agreement with you. This is a superior phone. The network may slow down some, but it is blazing fast and will only get better as they make it better. oh yeah, battery isn't that great. But I wouldnt give two ****s with speed like this!

Sent from my bolt, and sent so fast that you missed it
[EVO 4G General] doublehoya:
I can attest to that- LTE is seriously fast. I've had an Evo since launch and love it- and have been with Sprint for over 10 years (with absolutely no complaints). Picked up a TB this morning, just for the hell of it (I'm fool enough to want to get locked in- to the extent one can- in an unlimited LTE plan).

I've got no basis for comparison between Sprint and Vz so far as customer service goes, but the TB on LTE just screams, and after a day, I've got to admit that it's damned impressive. on the speedtest website, it was showing anywhere from 15-22 down, slightly less (maybe 12-15) up. On my best days with the Evo (although not today, because Wimax has been a little hinky in Manhattan yesterday & today), I've only gotten around 8.5 down/1 up.

A couple of annoyances with the TB- the lack of a 4G toggle to save battery is one, and whoever located the damned usb port (so that you can't prop the phone up in landscape and charge it (!)) ought to be hung- but so far, it's otherwise a pretty slick piece of kit.
[EVO 4G General] Justin.G11:
Sprint family plans are dramatically cheaper, all mobile to mobile minutes are free regardless of carrier (no circle crap), their "unlimited nights" start a full two hours earlier, and the unlimited data is actually unlimited and not capped at some arbitrary gb (and if you're flash happy, yeah that matters)

There is honestly no way I could afford my current plan on verizon.I checked many times when a cool new phone comes out. They are easily double the price. As for coverage, I'll consider myself lucky: I've yet to even find a dead zone in so cal

Swyped from my pants, I'll let you figure out how.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Verizon has unlimited data right now for the TB and I htink the iphone. Everything else gets capped right? How long do you think those unlimited plans are actually gonna last?

I tried to use a friends verizon galaxy S (fascinate?) during football season. I went to the NFL app and it wouldn't let me play videos unless he paid 10$ extra a month for vcast. Also 10$ extra for their navigator? That's one way verizon nickel and dimes people...

Also, what plan are you using that's only 10$ more? I don't see one with unlimited mobile to mobile on there? I could definitely be missing it.. but when I start trying to match up with what I'm getting on Sprint.. it gets expensive.
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
Sprints Everything Unlimited 400 starts at $69.99.

-400 land line minutes

-Unlimited Mobile to any mobile regardless of network

-Unlimited Text

-Unlimited Web

Unlimited everything include land line minutes I believe is $99.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
The carrier switch wasnt as much about the phone as it was about a better network. So really it was win win.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Basically lol. Like I said earlier the LTE alone makes it FAR worth while.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Guys, I'm happy for you. Glad you love your new phone...but how long to you plan to gloat about it? Go to the TB forums and you can rejoice with all the other TB owners...

Sent from the batcave thanks to the xda "premUim" app!
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Maybe for you but not even a thought for me. I get great 3g and 4g. My brother has verizon and he can't even get a signal in my basement and I even get 8 mbps in my house.

Sent from my HTC EVO
[EVO 4G General] OneStepAhead:
. v

I believe the TB comes with a 1400, so not surprising there. give it time, evo battery life sucked when it came out too and now its actually quite good thanks to kernel improvements.
[EVO 4G General] pottyvick:
The only reason i would want the TB is the 4g. I live in phoenix and sprint doesnt have 4g here. I hate it. Their 3g here sucks.

Even if the TB is not much better than the evo thats ok with me. I love my EVO (mostly thanks to XDA) . If sprint gets 4g or even proper 3g here then Ill be a happy camper.
[EVO 4G General] twilk73:
My area gets horrible 4G and 3G sadly the map shows us as blankeded in 4G. I hear all these speeds you guys are talking about and its just p!ssing me off. I get 300-600kb download and less upload. Its rediculouse. And 4G... I get scanning constantly. This sucks, im getting barly enough to surf the web and youtube is so slow. I mean this phone is big enough I dont mind surfing the web when I dont have my laptop. However, sprints network in my area makes it freaking a horrible experience.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
i agree... sprints data on both 3g and wimax needs to improve ...

LTE comes with a big i-got-cha... unlimited data.. but with extra toll charges for .......... (just wait).

but here is some specs of the new evo to compare to the 2 day old TB:

http://admin.androidcentral.com/spr...ils-leaked-expect-evo-3d-evo-view-4g-and-xoom
[EVO 4G General] aph:
No, it's Froyo
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
more issues for tb owners....

no custom ROMs for a while!

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...age-from-motos-playbook-bootloader-is-locked/

hope they can hack around locked bootloader and recovery!!!

looks like verizon.. is pushing htc to do the same thing as moto
[EVO 4G General] detcup4evr:
My coworker got a thunderbolt and asked me all kinds of questions about my evo before getting it, the thunderbolt has a smaller battery the the evo, I think because the kickstand, so pretty sure evo bat won't fit
[EVO 4G General] herbthehammer:
The battery life being worse... The evo's battery life would be worse if it was forced to be on wimax all the time too.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Unless its coming with an improved network for my area it doesnt do anything for me.
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] Pauri:
Does anyone could upload a honeycomb theme? Or kniw where to get it from?
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] anant.0097:
Hey pauri, try the Indroid rom or lestatious..... both are honeycomb themed which looks good and promising.... also krillos rom has a honeycomb themed dialer but i personally like the indroid one better...... it is from darky's theme from the galaxy s forum!...
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] Pauri:
Thank you ;)
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] Sushil79:
try this

www.mediafire.com/?3ggeseq7fae7us9
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] bator:
I installed this. Looking good :)

Thank you.
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] Pauri:
Ty :-P