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[Windows Phone 7 General] Reamer09:
What about the landscape keyboard? Is there ever going to be a fix to take up the whole screen width? I'm sure going from an iPhone or something with a smaller screen its fine, but I'm use to the beautiful SAMOLED screen on the Captivate having a full width keyboard. In portrait mode its on par with the Captivates portrait keyboard, but I simply can't type on the landscape one. Maybe I should have got the Quantum...

Sent from my Andromeda Captivate
[Windows Phone 7 General] FishFaceMcGee:
I'd be more inclined to be supportive of Microsoft if they made it clear that they actually were trying hard to support their users, not their carrier-partners.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Reamer09:
Allowing us to uninstall the bloatware crap without Modding the phone all to pieces is a pretty big sign that they support the users and not the carrier. Its the first phone I've seen it allow such a thing.

Sent from my Andromeda Captivate
[Windows Phone 7 General] livebug:
I love WP7 too........

Mod Edit; It is against the rules to try and direct users to another (competitive) site.

I appreciate that your intentions were good though ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
I've always been the first to support Microsoft but they really do need to start showing their consumers some love.
[Windows Phone 7 General] truffle1234:
i have been MS supporter for a long time and with WP7 microsoft has done it, this OS works without softreset, do not have few things right now but i know it will be having all those options soon...

i got my HD7 end oct and i am glad i got it.... i love the cloud, love the UI, love the speed, smoothness, simplcity, integration with facebook.....

i was wondering how it will be like when i lose sync with outlook, but it did not come up after i moved my contacts to my windows live account.

guys, WP7 is a good OS and if you dont like it there are other options, the only thing i dont get it is ppl *****ing about WP7 when they knew what they will be getting and they bought it and now all the *****ing..
[Windows Phone 7 General] comeradealexi:
I support Microsoft :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] spgi:
+1 I support Microsoft :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] livebug:
+1

But there are a lot of Microsoft haters out there.
[Windows Phone 7 General] moonshines:
another reason i love ms and wp7 (this is too much exciting:p)

IE9 coming to WP7 (later this year :eek:)
[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
To the OP, just want to let you know something.Firstly,you say we have to be like Apple supporter and support M$.I can tell you that most Iphone users are not Apple fanboy.this is due to the product problem.

we are complaining is because the product is not good.IMO, M$ is on the wrong direction now,they have to plan and develop WP7 better,better....still a long way to go.what I see now is WP7 is just like SYMBIAN,full of bugs,but it just equipped with a better presentation.

I'm feeling pretty pity now,let's think about the updates and what we are waiting??mango and NO-DO,the feature these updates bring to us,is just some necessary and basic function and not mind-blowing.

I'm kind of tired of frequent lag and crash on marketplace,excessive noise in picture,slow app loading on my mozart.

what I said here is on a non-M$ fanboy stand point.
[Windows Phone 7 General] arturobandini:
I will support MS back, but only when:

- They will deliver their updates,

- They will stop their unacceptable US-centric services, and provide decent services also to European customers. Which means they fix Bing Maps which is a shame,

- They will remove most of their silly WP7 restrictions and limitations,

- They will give all the APIs to the third party developers (GPS, compass, camera, etc.),

-

They finally listen to their customers

.

At the moment they are not fully commited to the satisfaction of their clients... Sorry.

And God knows how loyal we are....
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
if you have to ask...

people to support a multi billion dollar company, the company is doing something wrong.

don't blame apple or google or rim for this one. nothing to do with them at all.

I would imagine if ms actually released a full fledged update that brought it up to featureset, this thread wouldn't be needed. also, naming your first update after your competitions is just lame. nodo ? really, that's just sad.
[Windows Phone 7 General] digger1985:
Erm remember when iPhone first came out without MMS, multitasking, copypaste, etc. The Apple supporters were backing Apple by saying that they didn't need multitasking, that copy paste on mobile devices was useless and why use MMS when we have emails.

That's the kind of support I am talking about. MS users on the other hand just complain and complain.
[Windows Phone 7 General] digger1985:
Just look at the hate spewed towards MS and WP7

http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/03/20/0334251/Chinese-Phone-Maker-ZTE-Turns-Down-WP7

Where are MS supporters when you really need them. You can bet that if it was something negative about Apple, then you would have Apple supporters doing their best to defend Apple for example see here

http://apple.slashdot.org/story/11/03/19/2241226/Apples-App-Store-Accepts-Gay-Cure-App
[Windows Phone 7 General] truffle1234:
my 2 cents...
[Windows Phone 7 General] truffle1234:
there will be ppl who hate MS i dont know why but they do so let them be, we as the REAL users know what this new OS can do and already doing....

i saw a post on this forum that MS have to sell phones so cheap to get ppl to buy, but look at all the new android devices US$175.00 **** thats cheap... and in singapore iphones are literrely given away with a contract of 2 year.....

ppl just hate what ever MS do, alot of android fanboys ***** about Cloud computing, what the hell android do? or how about Chrome OS???

i am wating for hte mango and skydrive integration...
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
This has nothing to do with android, rim, or apple. xda is a great place to voice opinions. i'll continue to do so, thank you. :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
Because that is back in 2007,first iphone with a 414mhz processor,everyone are going to accept the features it lack of.

However,now is 2011,everything changes,especially consumer satisfaction(most important part in Marketing),but M$ still like stay in the past.Again,there is nothing to do with other company.what I can say is just M$ do a very bad or pretty bad move in marketing and the way they develop the OS....most important is their attitude.

this is not about we gonna support them or not,it is about does it worth to support?

Please close this thread,anyway it has nothing to do with WP7 discussion.just off topic chat.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
I certainly hope the WP7 multitasking MS will implement will be significantly better than that of the iPhone. And the main thing about iOS in the beginning was that it was way ahead of anything else available at the time. Apple put out the iPhone when there was nothing else that was worth having. And the iPhone worked right out of the box. I didn't experience any bugs with it, except for the browser bogging down after about 15 minutes use like the system was getting hot or something. With WP7, I've experienced numerous bugs.

But I still like WP7 over iOS for quality. The smoothness and speed is second to none. If MS would stop stalling and put out the bug fixes and system improvements they keep promising, there would be many happy WP7 users.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Oke im a true MS propagandist by heart. All other brands are just the end of technology and should be banned by everybody with brains.

Why wp7 is above all and why it gets so much hate is fear, fear of the greatest thing in the world, fear of the rise and rise knowing the end of the other is nearing and we will soon have one dictator ruling the world.

Which is beautifull ofcourse.

Why is this happening? Simple

look at the alternatives:

Android - has no design... wtf this is 2011 why would you buy a phone with menu's too ugly to look at. Even though it has sooooo many features, nobody gives a **** because its too ugly to look at. Its like an ugly pornstar, capable of eveything but avoiding it is the best option. You will never feel comfortable taking her out to dinner, exposing her to the world, even when nobody can see you she still won't make you happy.

IOS - yeah... apple... for people who have been bullied their entire lives, they now just form one big group and have the idea they have friends since they have a cool cellphone too. The reality is, you sold your identity and instead of being cool your assosiated with fat midlife crisis 50+ yo's single men trying to impress ladies with fart-apps. Its kind of like a bunch of gothics, you think your cool if you are a part of it, but the people around know better...

Blackberry - this was cool in the 90's I have to admit. However the buisness user cant be taken serious with a bb no more, walking around in your suit next to a 14 yo girl taking the same phone out of her pocket is kind of embarrassing. Plus crackdealers have a blackberry its like big rims and tint windows and a toilet tube for exhaust on a VW Golf GTI... your collegues will tell you nice ride, but in reality your a joke.

Now we know everybody else has a phone to be ashamed of, and WP7 just exposed this to the world... this is painfull and of course I would have been pissed too.

And who cares about the missing features, nobody really... its nice to have sure, and we all know MS has the best people for the job and we all know it will come... the only diffrence is when MS makes it, it will look beautiful and will be a joy to use and everybody will look at your phone like damn that thing is smooth and looks sexy. It's attractive its like a supermodel its worthy being in pictures, its nice in video's, its nice in real-life. And it has brains, but its still young and it will learn from the old generation and their flaws and outclass them sooner than all others. Its love at first sight whenever you see one walking by.

Which sucks of course if you have a different OS and you feel cheated because you are married to an ugly partner while you could have chosen an attractive person and show the world what you got.
[Windows Phone 7 General] imkarl:
I <3 Zune (:()

therefore

I <3 WP7
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Blindly support things we don't understand? What are we Apple fans? All joking aside though I love Microsoft and love WP7. They just have to support their product more thoroughly... Adhere to official dates and whatnot.
[Windows Phone 7 General] digger1985:
There were no official dates. The dates were just made up by the media.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
No, it was officially announced for the first half of this month. All other dates were speculation but Balmer himself announced the first half of March.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nickallison:
I love Microsoft

And support it over the bloody apple any time I can.

Much to my friends' and family's amusement/annoyance
[Windows Phone 7 General] truffle1234:
well said my friend...... Android os an os which do not have an identity so messy... That's why Android fanboys hate WP7 UI....
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
I do find it sad that I find WM5 more aesthetically pleasing than the latest versions of android... It may have all the function in the world and you may be able to decorate it however you want but if you wrap a turd in aluminum foil it's still a turd
[Windows Phone 7 General] conantroutman:
Thread reopened.....:rolleyes:
[Windows Phone 7 General] Crimson Lotus:
This thread is so funny and entertaining.
[Windows Phone 7 General] digger1985:
Thanks for the support for MS guys. Please don't get this thread locked by blatantly bashing other OSs. But feel free to say how much you love WP7.

Personally I will be buying a new Nokia when it comes out. Show Nokia and WP7 some love.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Loiselle:
I, too, love my WP7 handset. Now, I need to get rid of this Focus to get the HD7S when it comes to AT&T. It was the device I wanted from the start. Settled for the Focus, and now, my mission is to get the HD7S.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Omega Ra:
Send your focus to me. ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] IM0001:
Got my Arrive. Love it exactly like I expected. They did miss something with the whole WM MyPhone/Live Intigration, but besides that. Awesomenss only to continue to get better.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jasongw:
You have GOT to be kidding me. Microsoft isn't a *person*, it's a freaking corporation, end of story. As a consumer who funds them with his dollars, it's my right--indeed my RESPONSIBILITY--to demand the best for my hard-earned cash, not engage in some ridiculous "Love-in".

They're a business, they need to deliver on their promises and make up ground QUICKLY. If they don't, they deserve to lose every customer who jumps back to iPhone or Android.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Refreshing! Finally reading a rational view. That is exactly my sentiment as well.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jackleung:
+1 from me. I am starting to regret my purchase on Foucs instead of an Android device.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Don't misread me. I love WP7. I just am not a loyalist. MS, Apple, Google, Sony, Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola and so forth, are all companies. Their mission is business and making money for their shareholders. It isn't in making fans, though that does happen. But none of those companies knows any of us or our love or hate for them. They don't make decisions based on how well me, you or any of us here at XDA like them. They make business decisions based on marketshare and potential. They employ strategic efforts to determine the viability of potential products.

Everything they do is based on rooted business principals and nothing whatsoever to do with customer love or loyalty. Some get it right (Apple, Google), others get it wrong (Motorola, MS, etc).

The only viability there can be for expressed consumer loyalism and love is purely subjective. What a person gets from the product, they will express their love or hate and make effort to help increase the marketshare or decrease it by word-of-mouth or activism. That is all that takes place here at XDA, wittingly or unwittingly. Someone loves something and they want everyone to love it. But they don't have the right to *make* anyone love it. The only thing they can do is express their views and hope it will ignite a fanbase. But those who dare flame others who legitimately express disapproval serve only to work against what they love.

Who among us would deliberately proceed to love something they are being pressured or forced into loving? The only thing the fan of a product can hope for is that the maker of the product do a good job of selling it and making it attractive. No amount of flaming will ever make an unattractive product attractive. In most cases, and because of the human ego, flaming serves only to make an unattractive product even less appealing.

I don't hate or love MS, Apple or any other company...unless they are doing things against humanity, of course. If a company puts out a good product, I like all other ppl, to certain degrees, like to express my pleasure with that product. If that company does something to lessen the appeal of that product, I like all other ppl, to certain degrees, prefer to make it known.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JohnBlade73:
Hi,

I own the Samsung Omnia 7 and I love the interface, the speed and the fact that it can play more email-attachment types than android (especially video's), also I can add my live account AND my google account (and yahoo and facebook... which I don't use).

I like it when all kinds of data can be streamed/synched etc... As I can between my win7 PC, my xbox 360 and now my wp7.

A lot of features are still missing in wp7 (copy/paste, dutch language, possibility to disable this vibrate when pressing back or search...) but I'm sure they will finally be added.

PS I also own the Samsung Galaxy S, Galaxy Tab and HTC Desire :-D

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab GT-P1000
[Windows Phone 7 General] ratchetjaw:
I really like wp7 hell I have a focus, quantum and my fav dell venue pro but do to lack of features had to return to Android as my daily driver at least till nodo hits cause believe it or not I use copy paste almost daily in some form or fashion. Once it and multi tasking hit this OS will be awesome in my eyes and my daily driver
[Windows Phone 7 General] digger1985:
This is not a complaint thread. There are plenty of them around. This is a support MS thread. Just look at how Apple users treat Apple. MS gets **** from both users and haters. Apple users are the most loyal userbase in the tech industry. MS needs similar kind of support.
[Windows Phone 7 General] orangekid:
that's because Apple delivers a better product than Microsoft as far as phones are concerned. There is no conspiracy and there are no "teams" here. It's not like anyone here and MS have anything in common nor do you share some kind of bond. What is this allegiance crap? Either the product is awesome or it isn't. I don't use Android because I give a damn about Google, I like the OS. I don't like Apple's garbage stance on being so closed about everything nor do I appreciate MS acting like Apple and having everything so locked down and closed, but I still use WP7 and iOS.

What does that even mean to "love and support MS"? it's just a collection of people trying to make some freaking money, no different whatsoever than Apple, Google, RIM, or anyone else. This whole sticking up for MS thing is pretty sad. I don't remember when the last time a multi billion dollar corporation needed you or anyone to have their back. Their stockholders might want to support them but that's about it.

If MS puts out a better product then more people will rave about how great it is, that's all there is to it. Have you noticed how the number of people raving about iOS, Android and WP7 seems to correlate to market share? More people rave about Android now than Apple because more people carry Android, and I have yet to meet a single person who owns a WP7 phone (and I live in a giant city with like a million ATT and TMobile stores). In my office right now there are 5 people over 45 years old. 4 of them own Android and one of them owns an iPhone.

Maybe someone should start a "let's all show sony our love and support because xbox outsells them and the kinect totally destroyed that stupid Move thing that just utterly rips off the wii"
[Windows Phone 7 General] peacekeeper05:
Same. Im regretting my purchase of opt.7
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
I miss my omnia 7 its back for service and now im on an iphone 3gs, what a step backwards....

Come on people we are talking about a phone! Not about having a million of MS stocks. Dont spread your hate here, count your blessing. There are a lot of people out there wanting a phone with a goodlooking interface ready for the future. An unmatched beauty. There is no alternative for this and the laking features will be added just wait... its not even a half year old what do you expect? Development is time consuming we all know this... Sit it out another 4 months IE 9 multitasking more languages etc. Just stop the god damn bashing, you are not winning anything with it. If regret sell it or bring it back and start enjoying your life again nobody forces you with a wp7...accept that there are people who dont share your opinion and enjoy wp7 better than any phone out there. Some people are just never happy
[Windows Phone 7 General] orangekid:
you know you can theme your iPhone if you want a "good looking interface" right?

Also 4 months till mango??? you have to show me where you read that. Did you mean 14 months??
[Windows Phone 7 General] merks_2002:
My Support for WP 7...

Will be the leader in future...:)
[Windows Phone 7 General] digger1985:
I'm sorry but when the first iPhone came out with no multitasking, copy paste, MMS, limited bluetooth, no file manager etc. when EVERY phone on the market had those features and those were expected in any new phone, Apple users still defended the iPhone tooth and nail. Compare it to how most of the MS users behave.

Please start another thread if you want to complan. This is a thread to support MS and that we appreciate their efforts in making this sweet platform.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jasongw:
Apple users are often loyal, to the point of absurdity where they imagine that the all-knowing, all-perfect Apple can do no wrong. They're annoying as ****.

And as much as I do like my WP7 device (Focus here), I refuse to be a blind corporate lover like the Apple fanboys. Microsoft put together a decent version 1.0 OS, but as much as I love it the truth remains the same: they've left too many features unsupported, on the table, and they need--DESPERATELY--to catch up. Right now, they're not doing what they should be to make that happen in a timely fashion. By the time we get to Mango, the WP7 version 2 devices will have hit the market. That's unacceptable, and Microsoft doesn't deserve to be praised solely on the grounds that they showed up to the party.

I believe WP7 CAN be great, and that it ultimately WILL be great--but Microsoft needs to put a rush on this ****. The slow pace is ridiculous :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] digger1985:
Like I said, this is not a complaints thread. There are plenty of them around. This thread is to show support to MS for those of us who want to.
[Windows Phone 7 General] orangekid:
Like I said, it has nothing to do with loyalty or any of that other garbage, the point is that right now Apple delivers a better product. When the iPhone launched there was no competition in that field of a "multimedia phone" because everyone was trying to act like their phone was perfect for business, all those PPCs were of no use to the common man. . Now that iOS and Android have been around for years the bar has been raised and people want more than what WP7 has to offer.

I am not complaining, I am pointing out some things you may not have thought of. There is nothing wrong with being happy with your phone and OS, and I do like that MS came out with this OS and it's got some nice features, but the whole "let's praise and love MS" thing is a little weird and unnerving honestly.

sounds like some of the denizens of this forum at times... (not you, your post actually made sense)
[Windows Phone 7 General] orangekid:
Why open a thread and just want everyone who agrees with you post in it anyways, that would be a rather boring and useless thread methinks.

unfortunately when you open a thread you can't really dictate who can or can't post in it and what their opinion should be.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tadwitte:
I just bought an iMac, and connected my iPhone with it to have a remote. A couple of things happened.

The iPhone crashed a number of times and rebooted.

Some of the apps crashed, even after rebooting.

It was slow.

It looked boring and unimaginative.

Tons of pixels in the screen got stuck.

Then I realised, this is why I got a windows phone 7. Of course there are some minor bugs that need fixing, but in general, I like it better than any other smartphone I have ever used. It's fast, responsive, and actually makes good quality telephone calls, compared to my iPhone. I love the mobile office app, the xbox achievements for the games, and the people hub. It is a great phone for me.