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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] antoniojose:
I've had the HTC Rhodium pretty much since the day it came out and at first I loved it but now I am only a microscopic inch away from chucking it in the garbage. The tink that annoys me the most is that its a beautiful device with potential to beautiful things. And it can do some wonderful things, just not without glitches and lags. When I'm at a bar talking to a potential client (or sex partner for the night) and I hit contacts (i'm running windows default bcuz its a quicker loadup time than HTC sense) the list should just pop rite up right? but no I have to wait about 3 minutes for my phone to figure out what I want to do, that enough time for the person I'm talking to to change their mind about giving me their number. and its not just with contacts. I try opening a program in the start menu, the screen freezes for a few minutes then decides to execute the command. I click on a song file in windows explorer, the screen freezes for a few minutes then decides to execute the command. I type in a url in Opera, the screen freezes for a few minutes then decides to execute the command. I've even tried hard resetting the phone count-less times to put this lagging problem to an end. And that only momentarily sovles it, but the lagging eventually comes back. It doesnt have to do with memory bcuz I have a 16microsd card and all my images, music and saved files are on there. So I just assume its the OS on the phone.

Since I am due for an upgrade anyway I am wondering should I go for the Android (HTC EVO Shift) or the WM7 (HTC Arrive). I'm not looking for whats going to be the most popular or fancy or even the most customizable just looking for functionality. and info would be greatly appreciated
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] madguitarist63:
I personally have no expirience with WM7 but Windows has always had a problem with lag and their mobile OS. If your not into customizing just want something reliable the Evo Shift is a good phone. Android is better about lag problems with my expirience. Also if for some reason you have lag issues you can always root and get voodoo lag fix and take care of it. Also Microsoft was rushed to release Windows 7 so there still bugs and it needs more time to mature. The Evo Shift is running a pretty quick 800ghz processor and compared to the stock evo is actually faster. So my personal opinion would be android and the Evolution Shift

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] lnando84:
Have you tried over-clocking you tp2? Def helps..you'll see and feel the difference right away.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Shadownn:
android SO is excellet i prefer android defenitly
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] slapshot30:
WP7 is closed source and if you are into modding and customizing your phone, it's not for you. Android is open source and the EVO Shift is an excellent choice. Stick with that HTC brand, Samsung and others have been known to ditch their devices fairly early and give no more updates. HTC does a pretty good job with the Android updates and has the most development going on around it IMO.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] tekgurl:
I acually bought both; HTC HD7 and Samsung Infuse 4G. WP7 interface is smooth and beautiful. Aesthetically, the interface is more attractive than Android. But, no flash support and it's a little slower than Android. I also had a TP2 and I customized the heck out of it. Android fills that need for me. Also, with the TP2 I became addicted to flashing ROMs. Android fills that need as well. Android is super fast, too. So having experince with both, Android is the better of the two.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] zyphuris55:
I've been looking at both platforms, and I've found the WP7 to have more towards my needs. Sure, the tiles are a bit bland when compared to the Sense UI, but its very smooth.

The WP7 is currently in its infancy (damn microsoft, starting from scratch and ditching 6.5), but they are making efforts to fix that. If you know C# or C++, then XNA on WP7 will be a smooth transition. Although the device is closed source, you can unlock the phone with the SDK.

Android uses an alteration of Java, which I've see as a mess. XDA-Developers has accumulated a large community of Android users and many android phones, so there is a fail safe if you mess up your phone.

My recommendation to you is to go to the stores and try the phones. If its not a live demo (i.e. plastic shell with a sticker on the screen), then ask for a live demo. Play with them, and imagine that phone in your life.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] GSM4ever:
Well... thats kind of a 50/50

WP7 looks plain with that home screen, and it lacks lots of things.

Android is a bit slow when downloading things from the Market without using Wifi (my experience), and u can customize your home screen and layouts.

Hmm, I'd probably say go Android
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] 1milenia:
i would go for tmobile g2x the fastest phone
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] GT247:
I know the original post is a dated one, so I'm not sure if the original poster is even reading replies at this time, but..........I'd question why his phone freezes for minutes at a time doing anything...the device is only slow when using stock TF3D, which he stated he isn't, and even then, stock TF3D doesn't freeze for minutes at a time...seriously, does anyone think the manufacturer sent out a device that freezes for minutes at a time? Do any of your phones freeze for minutes at a time? Have you seen other threads for the TP2 that claim their device freezes for minutes at a time without them stating they just needed help because they'd done something to it they didn't know how to reverse?

I have a custom rom on my device now, which is a lot faster than stock, but if I had to go back to stock, I wouldn't want to ditch the phone, because it's a wonderful phone, even stock. It never froze on me for minutes at a time (well, there WAS that whole sms freeze thing before the hotfix was released)...but other than that, it never froze for minutes at a time, even stock....say "I don't like this wm platform" or "I like android more" or "I like wp7 more" or "I have no idea what's going on"...but don't say "The TP2 normally freezes for minutes at a time and it's natural for it to do this, it's how it was released"....

Now...yes, a friend of mine does have the evo shift which of course I have played with, it's a very nice device and I prefer it over the Evo 4G which I also have (my personal phone Tilt2 AT&T, my "business" phone, Evo 4G Sprint)...my business phone, lol...basically I give that number out to customers to call me on, other than that, I do everything from the Tilt2...if I was forced to decide on a device...I'd keep the Tilt2...WP7 will mature in a while....I'm interested in seeing what they and the manufacturers come out with in about a year, until then, my Tilt2 runs awesomely thanks to the Chefs who build custom roms, and it's wayyyyyy better looking thanks to the people here who theme.... I don't have "phone envy", I think if anyone came from a new android device or wp7 device who'd never used a tp2 like mine before they'd have phone envy...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] zyphuris55:
No sim on the HTC Arrive

On my phone, it does freeze up for a few seconds when loading basic programs. Like, when opening the contacts program or start menu, there is a 4-5 second lag (despite the phone immediately vibrating to confirm the action). In the newer phones, they have a 1GHz as required minimum while the TP2 has a 528 MHz processor. If the TP2 had a 1GHz processor, the loading time will take a second or even less.

The phones mentioned, the HTC Arrive, it doesn't have a SIM card. The HTC 7 Pro, which is the non-sprint phone, still doesn't have a SIM. So trying to get the phone while being on AT&T, either complain to HTC or wait for another phone. The LG Quantum (for AT&T) is pretty nice....but there could be better.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] solnt:
Personal, i will go for both of them, maybe one at the time and then switch to another.

Both of them have weak/strength features, so it's up to you guys to pick what is the best for you. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] elementyy:
Android for sure. It is the youngest mobile OS and besides it is improving faster than any other OS. It got the potential to become the best OS and is better than WM. Also the android market has a lot of very funny applications available. In addition the interface of Android is excellent and does not lag like WM one. I bought Rhodium one year ago and with my knowledge now if I could I would go back in the time and get android phone. Not that I'm sorry for getting TP2 - it works a lot for me but kinda WM is like a cliche compared to android and I wish I had bought an Android phone more than WM phone.

I think I've said enough good things about Android that would convice you to buy a phone with this OS. If you have the money buy LG Optimus 3D - dual core processor, Android, 3D View and 8 Mpx camera....just awesome ))
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] aleks.spv:
Go to android! Install android port FRX07 on yor TP2! Very good work :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Nylo:
Awhile back I was thinking the same thing, but as of today I still can do more with my T2 WM6.5 than the Android, iPhone, and WM7. Although I had to do lots of hacks and tweaks to get there. But, for me, this is what I love to do.

The WM7 is going towards the iPhone philosophy. You pay for it, they tell you what you can or cant do. If you like to do lots tweaking this phone is not for you. If you are of the soccer Mom ilk then maybe WM7 is for you.

For me the Android is still too new. I have also heard that of all of the smart phones out there the android gets returned the most.... Not sure why. Though if someone were to take my beloved T2 away I probably would go for the Android.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Simba501:
Android, without question. Some people tend to find Android cumbersome (all of the settings, menus, etc.). If you're one of those people, get a Windows Phone (extremely young, but has nowhere to go but up). I tried it once, and it wasn't enough for me. It was an iPhone, with a different look.

How so? I'm really curious. And I tend to agree with the WP7 = iPhone statement.

Sent from the most interesting device in the world.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Markstar:
But what about privacy?

I realize that all 3 (MS, Apple, Google) are not really doing well in that regard, but Android pretty much requires me to have a Google account so they can log my mails, searches, etc..

I'm not reall very fond of that, that's why this post is still written with the TP2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] oliwar:
After testing WM6.5 and Android, I would say Android for the huge amount of apps, widget, aso that u can use. System is stable and fast too...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] redpoint73:
People freaking out about digital privacy (in terms of data mining) recently is hilarious. Companies have been data mining you for decades through other means, (store purchases, credit cards, tons of other stuff) but nobody cared about it.

Google uses data anonymously, and things like locational data are not stored for more than a couple days (unlike Apple mapping fiasco). You should not let that be your sole reason for staying with an outdated device and obsolete OS.

One nice thing about having a Google account and an Android phone, is you never have to worry about backing up your phone contacts and email ever again, or migrating that stuff to another phone. You just enter your Google login when you buy a new phone, and its all automagically there.

To the OP's original question: Android all the way. I debated this for some time too. But WP7 is a closed platform. Android is infinitely customizable, and tons of mods and hacks, just like in the old spirit of WM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Simba501:
Well said.

Sent from the most interesting device in the world.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] jesi.james:
Couldn't agree more.

Sent from my Infused V² powered smartass phone yo
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Ltilt2:
Android all the way
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dtsouers:
I personally was using Android 2.2 on the Motorola Droid 2 Global for about 6 months and now have returned back to WM6.5, till either Android of WP8 supports a stylus.

The lack of decent PIM software and a decent battery life also were defining factors.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] daveb673:
antonio, I have been debating the same question in my mind for some time. I was close to going to the LG Quantum, but then I learned WP7 will not sync with MacOSX (will only sync media if you get a Zune acct). Pretty much a non-starter for me. I'm still using my HTC 8925, w/WM6.5. If AT&T will come up with an Android keyboard slider, I might change...
[Xoom General] c-mack:
I bought my Xoom before I found out they were coming out with the wifi only xoom, and i was planning on using it wifi only anyway. My problem is when i tether from my cell to my Xoom i feel like I'm on a 13k modem, its incredibly slow... I'm using my rooted Galaxy S on AT&T for the tether, with the stock tethering app. First is there a better tethering app I can try?

If not I'm thinking of getting the wifi package from verizon, but will they give me the money back for signing up for a 2 year plan... I paid $800 and they sell for $600 if you by the contract.

If they wont give the credit I can just return it and re-buy it with the contract, but are they going to charge me the $70 return fee?

Or should I return it pay the $70 and then buy the wifi only? this is only an option if i can get the tethering to work at a decent speed.... I really dont want to return it as I have all my apps and email and stuff all set up, does anyone know if verizon is planning on offering rebates for people who paid full price to just use wifi?
[Xoom General] metalhed32:
The tetherig does seem slow. I'm using my evo with 4g in philadelphia where I usually get good speeds on my phone but my xoom crawls loading pages.

As far as the return policy at verizon....14 days, $70 restocking fee regardless of store credit or refund.
[Xoom General] GorfinG:
What tethering app are you using? I am using Myn's 2.2 on my rooted EVO with the unlocked Sprint Hotspot and my xoom loads pages pretty quickly.
[Xoom General] red man:
Yes that sprint app works flawlessly, I use to use wireless tether by google but god the spfiy app is faster on 3g than that google app on 4g lol
[Xoom General] Neo3D:
Same here

Myn 2.2 with 4g

The other day I did gchat video and it worked just like on wifi.

I use Wi-Fi tether exclusively to tether my laptop at work cuz it's faster than our Wi-Fi. One thing that's cool is that I stand it up with the kick stand and that keeps the back really cool.
[Xoom General] jrfree:
bluetooth

I have gotten better and more consistent speed using the native bluetooth tether with my droidx, plus I don't have to hassle with even taking out my phone. I have heard that the bluetooth seems to be problematic for some, but for me it works way better than tether apps.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Martinpibb22:
Is there any Android app like the iPhone one that lets you watch the games live? I've tried watching it in the browser, but it just lags and crashes.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EdWRX:
Hello, I've got CM7 RC2 on my G2, and i've recently found that the stock browser will not work under EDGE network, only (My carrier is movistar Venezuela).

Any ideas why this might be? Don't know if it's a setting or APN, because Firefox Mobile does work under Edge or Wifi.

Help!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EdWRX:
No one...?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bradley_e_smith:
I just forced 2g on my G2 (CM7RC2) and the standard browser works for me. Went to yahoo, google and cnn with no issues
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EdWRX:
Where did you applied that setting? Went to browser settings and didn't find anything there. Or is it through a command in terminal?? Because if I go to mobile network settings I check "only 2g networks" and nothing, if I go to firefox, it cool there.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] melodicjunkie:
Does it really matter about browser..

Android stock browser = internet explorer 6 in terms of popularity

Dolphin Browser HD = Firefox in terms of EPIC

Who honestly cares about stock.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] melodicjunkie:
Oh yeah and to add, I uninstalled my browser and wifi calling.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spastic909:
Want a cookie?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EdWRX:
Still no one has given a better answer than using another browser.

My question is why stock wont work on edge and firefox does? Besides, firefox doesnt play flash content very well.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bradley_e_smith:
Like I posted, it works for me. When I have issues, I make a new backup (I keep like 3 different ones on my phone and many older ones on my computer) and reflash the ROm. See if that fixes your issue.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Triketra:
Hey guys just got an evo out of a trade on craigslist, and want to bring it over to my cricket account. Got my Samsung Epic working but want to also add this EVO to my account for the ball and chain. Can someone please point me in the direction to the best known tutorial to flash this phone with? and been looking around and I seen a Jimminy cricket roms, is this the only rom that will work with a evo flashed to cricket, shouldn't be but just curious.

Thanks in advance
[HD2 General] XPLANE9:
So, i just flashed Android nand onto my HD2 and have it overclocked to 1.5 ghz. Sure, performance gains are minimal, but it just feels nice to be at 1.5 ghz. Would this have some noticeable effect in the long term, such as shortened lifespan of the phone?
[HD2 General] saurabh88:
did u feel overheating?
[HD2 General] XPLANE9:
A little hotter than normal, but then again I have it in an Otterbox Defender so I can't really feel anything.
[HD2 General] sponkemonke:
Beware of random reboots and hot potatoes ;)

This *might have long term effects after 5 years but I assume most people sell their phones after 3-5 years of usage

1100mhz seems safest for me.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjsztainbok:
Does anyone know if the Atrix supports PAL output through it's HDMI?
[Thunderbolt General] thaJack:
Love my Thunderbolt so far. Two things I don't like...

1) This phone has a MASSIVE amount of bloatware on it. Honestly, I didn't think it was possible to have more than my DroidX did... but it does. Thankfully, once root is available this is solvable.

2) Battery life. I really wanted to purchase the extended battery, but there is no holster for the phone that will work with it. This is unfortunate. Hopefully they'll make a holster similar to the one I had with my Droid and DroidX where the back of the phone isn't limited in any way.
[Thunderbolt General] rajuabju:
Agreed with the bloatware. So lame. I dont need 50% of the junk installed on here.

Need root asap to clear out the garbage!
[Thunderbolt General] Jlluna87:
Honestly the one thing that I don't like is the fact that skype doesn't work with this phone yet. it's honestly the main reason I got this phone
[Thunderbolt General] nscott69:
CityId is the bane of my existence
[Thunderbolt General] Jlluna87:
actually looking at it now that I've had time to play around, No skype, no swype, unable to use FM radio app without headphones, No HDMI output. I've even tried using fring calling for video chat, doesn't even utilize the FFC. it uses the rear camera. the bloat ware yes. I'm sure there will be more to come
[Thunderbolt General] HolyGrail:
The swype beta works to a point. For video chat, and 2 of my friends tried Tango and said it works.

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sgiggle.production&feature=search_result
[Thunderbolt General] Jlluna87:
Front facing?
[Thunderbolt General] HolyGrail:
Yes, I can't try it till I get home, but they said it works. Thunderbolt to an Iphone was what they chatted on.
[Thunderbolt General] jdposhkus:
Tango works. I just chatted with an ifriend
[Thunderbolt General] chaoscentral:
Tango definitely works, Fring needs to be updated to support the thunderbolt, and Skype will eventually come. Since they enabled video chat on iPhone only a matter of time on Android
[Thunderbolt General] russell5:
Same as the incredible. Uses them as an antenna.
[Thunderbolt General] kyrumo71:
Have any of you tried the EVO version of Fring in the Market?
[Thunderbolt General] doublehoya:
The only thing that really annoys me about it is the location of the USB port. Can't watch a movie or slingbox in landscape and simultaneously charge it with the cord (it looks like it may only be possible to do that with a dock).

Wait a minute.

You don't suppose they purposely designed it that way so I'd have to by a dock, do you?
[Thunderbolt General] libraryclg:
I haven't had any problems with the swype beta so far. When does it stop working?
[Thunderbolt General] rckymtnrfc:
I did notice you can remove City ID from inside the app....mine is gone. :)
[Thunderbolt General] SuperFly03:
Also, the Verizonwireless app doesn't support the Thunderbolt yet.

Must be a 4G issue... but I can't load it and pay my bill. :(
[Thunderbolt General] DNak206:
That's hilarious. Ordered mine tonight, dude said it was being overnighted but I've ordered enough phones from Verizon where if you don't get the "it's been shipped" email with tracking, it ain't coming. Guess I'll have to hit a store on lunch tomorrow and "undo" the shipped one.

I have a similar question tho about a dock, time to start searching for accessories I suppose because I can't live without a car dock.
[Thunderbolt General] CodeRedPR:
I dont like that they have charger slot in the same side where the back-stand opens to. If I want to have my phone horizontally and while charging I cant because the slot faces down. They should have thought about that.
[Thunderbolt General] bmcclure937:
My main gripes thus far:

microUSB location

notifications (LED not as good as multicolored on Nexus One, Vibrate tends to be weak)

in-call volume is somewhat quiet

bloatware

Everything else seems solid. I do not like Sense, but permanent root is imminent. I can solve many of my "problems" with a custom ROM and other software tweaks.

I am highly impressed with the build quality of the device. It feels solid and high quality (like HTC hardware usually feels). I am looking forward to upcoming ROMS/hacks/etc.

I have not been affected much by poor battery life to this point. We will see what happens after my first full day at work with the device off the charger from 6:30a - 4:30p (and usually into the evening depending on how much charge is left when I get home).
[Thunderbolt General] wrb123:
they did so much better than the evo. feels solid and well made, screen construction is different hopefully preventing screen separation, kickstand wider to hopefully actually work, camera lense recessed rather than sticking out, i actually like the charging port on the side because i use my phone more in portrait mode.
[Thunderbolt General] brownhornet:
I agree with both... just waiting on root so i can get that bloat crap off.
[Thunderbolt General] arcanexvi:
I agree 200 %. I hated the build quality of the EVO

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt.
[Thunderbolt General] gregdalfonso:
My main problem is the stand should open the other way. The charging port is on a great side to use your phone while in portrait. However when watching a movie I would like to be able to charge my phone.

Build quality however is phenominal, very very sturdy build.
[Thunderbolt General] SuperFly03:
Hmmm. I went to bed around 3am with the battery around 60% and I woke up to a dead phone at 8am. I had it off the charger for hours before hand... but I'm wondering where the 60% went.

I'm charging it right now... going to have to be very careful about the battery until we get the new OTA/Kernel.