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[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
I have just replied in Portuguese via PM. Please this is an English-language forum, doesn´t matter if your English is good or bad, let´s speak English. Otherwise it will become a mess, as we have people from Argentina to Pakistan here..:eek:
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] moralxd:
hey vlissine, buy from sites like this is safe? you said it took two months to arrive, it arrived in good condition?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ctalcant:
I ordered one last week (dino direct) and in came in today. 8 days to be exact. Came in perfect condition, and in nice case too.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ctalcant:
Pictures of the battery I just received.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
It depends on in which country do you live. I am from Brazil, so things from China take centuries to arrive here.

Anyhow, I don´t own X10 mini pro anymore - a phone is a working tool not a toy for me, and less than one day on one charge is something I can´t live with. Bought a Blackberry.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Neo Cortex:
I bought the Deji battery. Been testing it for a week now. Doesn't seem to last any longer. Still, it was cheap. I have a spare battery now.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Kisscool841:
so may you say that i'ts better with the deji ?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Neo Cortex:
No. I can't say it's any better.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] prashmmm:
I have a X10 mini and I don't see a battery listed in the site that is compatible with the phone. Will 'DEJI BST-38 1500mAh High Capacity Business Battery for Sony Ericsson S500' work on it?

Oh well, never mind. I just ordered one for myself, thanks.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] punkado:
I bought one in dino Deji, really like the test shows it is a little better than the original, I'm thinking of buying up to 2, because the only way to exit a weekend around the house without taking the charger.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] evilbarcode:
Hey bro,

I haven't read the rest of this thread yet but i bought this battery (bst41) and i should have done more research. This battery is not for x10 mini pro or the mini. I miss read your post and just saw x10 and thought nothing of it. Don't get me wrong im not blaming you, this is more just a warning for others out there that may be as stupid as me lol.

Cheers,

evilbarcode.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] babyangelx2:
Just got my deiji battery today :p

Got it at a bargain price of 5.76 USD.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] evilbarcode:
Lol nice yeah i'm waiting on mine atm. should be here in a few days if not then early next week. Not a bad price on that website aye? I also bought a usb hub haha. anyway goodluck with your new deji.

Peace,

evilbarcode.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] leftAlone:
Retest?

Can someone do a re-test of the batteries with more controlled variables? Like put the phone in airplane mode, then play a video clip continuously at a certain brightness level until the battery dies? :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
Why don´t YOU do this?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] michelsampa:
I'm also in Brazil!

There is one way to find it here?

Thanks
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
Check your PM.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] eonerxk:
hi all, my deiji battery has arrive yesterday, last night i charged deiji from 8 pm until this morning at 6.30 am while my x10 mini pro on ( mine cannot charge battery while it off, i don't know why ), after 2 1/2 hours it already lost 15% :'(

can you guys tell how to charge this deiji battery for first time use

Still using original firmware 2.1 update1 - rooted - JIT
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
You have to delete your old battery data before using the new one.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] eonerxk:
thx for your reply, can you tell me how to delete my old battery data, i'm new in android world :p
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Mr.Krypton:
awesome just saw the thread and ordered deji :D
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] acceleratum:
xrecovery has a battery wipe option, if you play around with roms you prolly have xrecovery but then again you'd know that option already if you used it, still i found on forums to delete some file called batterystats in your system folder but my phone doesnt have it so I just use the xrecovery way.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] shravanchoudhary9:
awesome thread , i need this battery but don't have credit card only have debit cards. so can any one tell me source in INdia. thanks a lot
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Banwell13:
Is the 2000mAh battery compatible with X10 Mini Pro?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] fr3akBut:
Deji battery arrived yesterday... my experience so far:

SE battery, running stock SE2.1, CM6 or CM7, used 5% per hour... wifi off, 2g only, no sync, no data traffic... that was the absolute best i could get (briefly enabling screen each hour to record battery level).

DEJI battery, running CM7, same settings... was draining 100% to 65% at 5% per hour, so no change at all.

However, after reading a post on another site regarding iOS, WP7, and Android tracking of users, I turned off location services (not GPS - that was always off, just the basic location tracking). I did that at 65% battery at approx midnight last night.

Roughly 24 hours later... I still have 30% battery remaining!!!!!

I cannot say if it is some odd behavior of the DEJI battery, or due to turning off location services without further tests on the original SE battery with Location Services turned off.... but based on the last usage.. 35% of battery per 24 hours should give about 3 days of VERY light usage.

I was *almost* at the point of selling the x10mini pro in favour of an HTC desire Z, as the battery was abysmal, and couldn't get through one day of basically being 'off'.

Will post back after doing more tests.

HTH :)

**UPDATE**

9 hours later.... battery is still 27% :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Banwell13:
The deji 2000mHa bettery is not forr the mini pro!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Banwell13:
Sorry about the double post, is there a new battery for the mini pro? Other than the ones listed I need super long battery life. Thanks in advance.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] panamamike:
Any followup on durability?

I'm guessing you've been using the Deji battery, for some time now. How is the battery performing? Is it still doing well? Would you still recommend this battery?

Regards,

Mike
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Banwell13:
ALSO I HAVE A DEJI BATTERY FOR X10 IF ANYONE WANTS IT, JUST PAY ME THEE POSTAGE. :-)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] panamamike:
What does this mean? Is the battery not worth using? Did you find a better option?

Mike
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Zkeeter66:
Now you actually forgive my poor English. But I have to share my knowledge ...

The simple facts given are. A battery that claims to provide 20 to 100 percent more time in the same physical size is bull****!

I have done a test with three batteries, claiming that they provide more than the original battery.

I have not counted the hours that the phone has been running, but I have turned the phone with a full battery and had it been in operation until it has died.

Since then I have charged batteries with a charger that shows how many mAh it is loaded with .....

I can only say, Do not believe what they say!

NOTHING of batteries deliver what they promise!

The most expensive one I tested was the worst!

The others will do as cheap reserves of your original battery. but not more ...

Think a bit, IF now these batteries now is as good as the claim.

Then we would not have problems with battery life! because then all the mobile manufacturers use the same technique! t

'm Sorry to say it, but you who claim that you get better battery life simply imagining you that....

Sorry....
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] panamamike:
Thanks for the response.

I understand, but I also think it's possible to make higher power density batteries, but I guess that's not the case for these batteries.

It would be nice if they would make one of those case/extended battery combos for additional battery life.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Ray_jai:
just orded a deji i'll see how it goes
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] fr3akBut:
Deji lasts 3 days now. It shows 1200mah in battery monitor widget.

Wifi, GPS, Bluetooth, Sync, Data, Location Services all = OFF

Only active widget is Clockr for time, Running Slades CM6 and minimal texting and calling.

I'd recommend the Deji over the stock SE battery...

:)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] panamamike:
How long have you had the Deji battery?

What where your typical run times on the stock battery?

Mike
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Banwell13:
The battery im presuming is fine, I ordered the wrong one. I have a mini pro and ordered the battery for the X10. So if anyone wants a brand new 2000mAh deji bat just PM me and paypal the postage. :-)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] fr3akBut:
I couldn't get through a day with the stock battery, but that was before finding out about disabling location services to save battery life (as i described in other post).

I'll run the same settings on stock battery, and post results.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] davebyone:
is that?

http://www.dinodirect.com/sony-ericsson-s500-business-battery-1500mah-deji.html
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] fr3akBut:
yup, that's the one :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] davebyone:
great.. buying 2 now!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
Mike, I sold mini pro and bought BB 9780, so no comments.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] panamamike:
Thanks for letting us know.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] prashmmm:
Hey, I bought that battery for my X10 mini and it doesn't even fit in. It is too big! I messed up while putting back the old battery and now my memory card has got corrupted and the slot is getting heated a lot.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] prashmmm:
DEJI BST-38 1500mAh doesn't fit in my X10 mini

I ordered the above said battery a month ago and received it around 10 days ago. I took it to a phone repair shop where the guy opened up the device on my instructions. I had read ifixit.com 's x10 mini teardown, so I knew how to open it up. But when I finally placed the battery in, it was just too big for the slot. It was bigger than the stock battery. What do I do? Have I not ordered the correct battery?

This resulted in another problem. I placed the stock battery back in and closed back the device. I put my memory card in and switched the phone on. But it said empty card and asked me to format. I did but nothing happened. Then I put that card in a Nokia where it showed the total capacity as 30 mb. The slot got extremely hot when the card was in and I couldn't even hold the device comfortably. Please help!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Ray_jai:
I just got mine today and it fits? maybe you got the wrong one? this is for the X10 mini pro BTW.

I will be testing 3 batteries.

- 8 months old Stock battery.

- Momax W995 998mah battery (this came with the phone as a gift when i got it. It was from a legit retailer in HK)

- Deji 1500mah
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] prashmmm:
Different batteries for mini and mini pro?? Can you please tell me which is the right battery for x10 mini?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
Who told you that this battery will fit mini? This a thread about mini pro batteries.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] kinglargo:
Would have been a logic test to do, nobody can be sure right now with the one made :/ so I guess, lose or win the 6$
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Ray_jai:
I'll try doing that.

I just finished testing my stock battery and im going through the 1st cycle of the deji.

I can always retest the stock one.

for my stock one, the battery lasts 10hours with wifi on and ebuddy connected.

with the deji today, I'm also doing wifi + ebuddy. I'm at the 12th hour and it's at 38% right now.

Edit:

I'm on Cyanogen Froyo CM6-Latest (based on MiniCM/CM6v2) - v2.0 + DualTouch rom.

overclocked to 748 on performance.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] s0ftcorn:
Where do you actually get all this third party batteries from?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Ray_jai:
For the Mini pro, I got the Deji here

http://www.dinodirect.com/sony-ericsson-s500-business-battery-1500mah-deji.html
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
Logic? Do you normally use your phone in an airplane mode with video running on it until battery dies? That´s not logic to me. If you need a "logic test", just test the real mAh with tester, that´s an easy thing to do.

The purpose of original test is to see how the batteries will behave in a real life conditions. These conditions were controlled - same cell, same load, same timing.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Zkeeter66:
The only way to find out how long your battery lasts is to insert it into the phone and use it until the phone turns off.

After that, charging with a charger that shows how many mAh you get in your battery ......

IF you get in about 80% of what the manufacturer says it keeps them what they promise!

My experience with similar tests is that none of them tested the batteries that promised between 1200 to 2200 mAh not even manage to give more than the original that promises 970 mAh ......

Are you supposed to get better battery life then it must be larger in size, it is that simple ....

Given all the complaints on poor battery life so I do not think that the original producers would miss the chance to find a solution to get ahead of their opponents ...

Need a cheap extra battery so buy it on E-bay, but do not expect miracles with battery life .....
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
You are absolutely right. The difference between the stock and the best replacement is just extra 2-3 hours which from my point of view doesn´t count. The real problem is not the battery but Android itself. Believe me or not, the guys with Samsung Galaxy complain of the same thing.

I for myself gave up on Android. i need phone for work and not for tweaking. Blackberry does exactly what I need and even more. And the battery lasts 3-4 days. However I am still inclined to buy a third party battery and test it ;) It´s contagious :D:D:D
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] DK71:
I ordered the Deji from dinodirect last week £3.89 inc delivery

guees its on a slow boat from china as its still not arrived :eek:
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] xperiaforme:
Since there are so many poeple interesed in a bettter battery for the mini pro, why don't you ALL drop a mail to Mugen. They recently made extended batteries for some of Xpera phones. Those are REAL extended batteries.

Go here and ASK they start making them: http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/contacts/

If I am the only one who writes, they won't start making them.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
They won´t. I wrote them and the reply was straightforward - no batteries for X10 mini pro, as the line has been dropped by manufacturer. Only after this I started looking for other options, like Deji
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] xperiaforme:
Like I said in the other post, POWER OF PETITON. If there is hundreds of us writing, they just might RECONSIDER. IT will take 20 seconds of your time so write to them for goddness sake! :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
Power of petition means nothing against power of dollar. Nobody will make accessories for a device which reached end of life. They are not crazy.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] xperiaforme:
If there is many potential BUYERS writing to them, this IS a power of dollars for goodness sake....
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
The model has reached end of life. Most of the users don´t even know there are quality 3rd party batteries. Look at the poll attached to this topic - only 7 use third party batteries, while 62 use original one. This is a basket case, mate. Unless of course YOU will order a big amount of batteries, and then will resell them.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] DK71:
Two weeks since placing order & it's still not arrived :confused:

Not sure how long it takes for delivery to the UK ?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] emrena14:
i ordered a deji 1500mAh battery but a 900mAh battey sent to me. its from chine so ican't do anything :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] DK71:
My Deji 1500 mAh battery arrived today (3 weeks later) :)

18 hours

battery @ 75%

data on 24/7 (2G)

12 mins calls

47 texts sent - 61 received

23 mins web/facebook/market (some 3G + 3.5G)

sync hourly
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
Complain, they will send you the right one. It is a decent store not a hole-in-the wall.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Shadow-Nexus:
Nice thread man!

I think i'll look for a deji battery on ebay or craiglist since i live in mexico it will take forever to arrive!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] aLeex10:
Deji battery 1500 is the same physical size as the original?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] thekindladies:
I don't have the original mini pro battery with me at the moment to compare them, but as far as I can see this Deji battery I have in my phone fits perfectly.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] adishor:
ok, thank you for this post, getting on ordering that :D
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] DK71:
Yes it must be as it went in the phone no problem.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Ray_jai:
after some tests with wifi and ebuddy on.

Deji has about 20hours

momax is about 18

stock is about 13
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] thekindladies:
I am using slade's minicm6 v4'0 and have say Deji lasts about 20 hours with heavy use. With normal use it lasts about 48.

I haven't tested the stock battery on this rom.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] shravanchoudhary9:
Dude plz test on stock nd give ur review. Thnx
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] lpecan:
FYI, I ordered a Deji and chose expedited shipping and received the battery in about five days. I may have had a bad stock battery, but I was limited to about 1.5 to two hours of display time on slade's CM6. So far after two hours on, and 33 minutes of display time, I have 90% battery. On my stock I'd show about 65% by now. I'll post a more complete review after I've discharged it a couple times.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Ray_jai:
did u try to clear the battery data? Don't know if it actually helps.

I also charged my battery for about 20hours even when it was 100%
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Forrest79:
Deji works for me about 5 weeks, after that I must put original battery back...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Ray_jai:
Really? I used mine for 3 months now and it's still good.

I unplugged my phone today at 8am and it's 9pm now, I still have 55%.

I have 2g data on, made a few calls and lots of txting.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] thekindladies:
Mine is still good too.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] DK71:
Ive since reverted back to stock battery as the Deji went downhill :(
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Neo Cortex:
I couldn't see much difference when I first got the Deji. Now it seems much worse. I've gone back to stock as well.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] obsidian_eclipse:
I've had a dodgy stock battery too. It was fine for first couple of months and then went terrible, it would run down in about 5 hours with everything off or even discharge 50 percent whilst the battery is disconnected overnight. The battery monitor still said the battery condition was good but it was always warm or hot - even when disconnected, so there must be a short.

Beware that lipoly batteries can be very volatile if damaged or charged incorrectly, they can burst into flames and emit toxic smoke in seconds. They only require about 1hr30-2hr charge and don't trickle charge, if its left on charge longer all that happens is the charging circuit cycles when the capacity drops a couple of percent. As lipoly have a limited number of charge cycles i'd recommend removing it from charge when its complete rather than leave it plugged in over night.

The sony ericsson website also suggests there is no need for a precharge as lipoly should be shipped in a ready-to-use charged state. Anything which suggestes otherwise is outdated advice - a through back to nicad/nimh days. Lipoly batteries are completely different (though to be fair li-ion are similar and can charge on a device utilising lipoly technology).

If your lipoly battery is misbehaving then get it replaced rather than risk a fire - and for goodness sake never 'try' to overcharge or ressurect a dead one.

Clearing battery stats relates to how the phone reads the mV level. A 90 percent charge for instance doesn't corrispond to 90 percent time remaining. The voltage drop is not linear so the battery stats help to give an accurate estimation of time remaining, so, when the stats are wiped it may drop 60 percent in 2 hours and then 40 percent in 20 hours. Once the stats have been recorded the charge levels will be more accurate. That's why some people report rediculous readings such as 'i cleared the battery stats and the phone stayed at 50 percent for 9 hours!', the capacity hasn't increased any just the way it is recorded.

Sorry to sound like a serial safety freak, but be careful with how you treat your lipoly battery. Not all advice is good advice.

(Sent from u20i using D4rKnYsSys/Slade87 Cyanocomb + tapatalk)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Sash1311:
my deji works fine!

30% better than sony i think
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Tanri:
Brilliant thread, thanks a lot, my battery is so poor. Gonna get one of those Deji ones.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] xsyrhies17:
While searching for other BST-38 batteries, I found this one.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/334080436/Long_life_li_ion_battery_for.html

So guys, what do think about this one? :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Ray_jai:
alilbaba is a wholeseller i think. and you might need an agent to help you get it.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Zkeeter66:
Unfortunately, I have to say it again, and again, and again ...

It is NOT to fill a battery with twice the power in the same physical size!

(Try to get in two liters of fluid in a container of one liter ...)

I can go with the 10% but no more!

So you who have purchased a battery that promise in 1800, claiming that it is true fool only yourself ....

Once you have let the phone drain the battery and then recharge it with a charger that shows how much you have loaded so I will believe your claims ....

But before then so are allegations that you got five hours more with your china battery just bull****!

Measure is that to know ........

(sorry for my bad englisch) :eek:
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ENIGMAXG2:
I'm with the original battery, not trust on chinese "replacements" which are -generally- low quality products.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
I absolutely agree with you. Whatever is written on Chinese batteries is irrelevant - nobody takes their claims of 1800, 1450 mAh etc. seriously. Maximum you can get is approximately 3-4 hours more, which corresponds to 15-20% increase in a real life test.

Regarding measurement - letting the phone to drain the battery and draining the battery by putting use on the phone will create two different discharge patterns.

If you will look at the table - the phone was idle between 12am and 9am , basically draining the battery alone, and the battery % values at 9 am are approximately the same (the deviation is statistical).

When the phone was put to use, the real differences appeared after 3pm and continued till the end.

So I would say that not the battery capacity is different (as you said you can´t put 2 glasses of water into the same glass), but the discharge graph under load is different.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] mclarenmercedes:
wouldnt deji battery fry ur fone??
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] adrianjos:
I can't buy DEJI BST-38 in dino direct. Every time I try add it to my cart the website get white and my cart is empty. They dont't have the battery? Where can i else buy this battery?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
Yes it will. It will also rape your girlfriend, steal your car and empty your bank account.:D:D:D