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[EVO Shift 4G Accessories] theimpaler747:
No selling outside the marketplace. Thread closed.
[Nexus One General] Arcadia310:
http://briefmobile.com/htc-pyramid-renders-leaked-next-nexus-device

What do you guys think?
[Nexus One General] Axefield:
What do I think? I think that will be my next phone. Especially if it's Vanilla.
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
It looks like a hot device & possible upgrade from the N1 someday! Here's the main thread discussion:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=939909
[Nexus One General] t0mmy:
No trackball :(

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One General] abccg:
Only 768 MB of Ram? Single Core 1.2 GHz?

That's a good upgrade, but not worth all the money for not much of a technology leap.

Maybe if it had 1 GB Ram and a dual core/quad core 1+ GHz processor.
[Nexus One General] Hollow.Droid:
Some sites are reporting dual 1.2GHz processors but at this point it's probably just speculation.
[Nexus One General] Boswell20:
If its a dual core, its mine
[Nexus One General] negroplasty:
My money is on the next Nexus device being made by Motorola.
[Nexus One General] NexusDro:
I hope it's not a pentile display like the Atrix.
[Nexus One General] lance713:
I really hope that image is a mock up. It's basically an extended nexus minus the trackball.

it looks nice, but not that sexy
[Nexus One General] GldRush98:
Hot looking phone, not worth the upgrade yet IMO.
[Nexus One General] worker1:
dual core and a bigger screen ftw. (hope it's dual core)
[Nexus One General] OferR:
I would upgrade just to get a N1 with better/working touch.

That said, I prefer AMOLED.
[Nexus One General] -A-P-M-:
HTC Pyramid will be first HTC's dual core phone. Looks good IMO
[Nexus One General] apollofroyo:
htc always rocks....

great devices
[Nexus One General] wang1404:
Everyone take a look at the back of it. We don't know if its a mock up picture or not, most likely, though I hope it will be like that when it comes to the states. But again, look at the back of your nexus one, then look at another android phone, then look at the pyramid picture. The google logo is google stand alone, which only dedicates to nexus line. Regular android phones don't have that
[Nexus One General] gibosn6594:
No trackball and what looks like no notification lights!!!

Why are we going backwards?
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
You might as well get used it, if my memory serves me correctly no recently released HTC Android device has a trackball. Actually, not just HTC, the trackball is almost non-existant on Android phones now.
[Nexus One General] TareX:
It's got a dual-core 1.2 (per core) Snapdragon aka Scorpion. It's the same SoC in the HP TouchPad; better than Tegra 2.

EDIT: It's way WORSE than Tegra 2..... it's a Cortex A8 device, with an underwhelming GPU

HTC Pyramid benchmarks

http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...60-smartbench-2011-result-have-been-revealed/
[Nexus One General] MitchRapp:
Don't see the point of single-core, sub-1gb-RAM phones in 2011 ... seriously.

Tegra 3 is coming out in august for pads, christmas for phones. Hoping HTC makes a nice Nexus HD or something out of it for the holidays.

- Tegra 3

- 1gb DDR3

- 16-32gb internal

- micro-sd slot

- 3.7-4.0in HD screen

- no keyboard for the love of God

- same build quality as N1 (not some Dollar-store Nexus S plastic plz)

- NFC or not, don't really care since it won't be widely used until like 2014

- Some sort of LED notification area (not necessarily a trackball, but an LED which we can control the same we do now on the N1... it's MUCH NEEDED!)

- this is a personal choice, but the same button placement (BACK - MENU - HOME - SEARCH) would rock ... I know most phones now have the BACK and MENU inversed...

- Dock support would rock too (same 3-pin system, wtv...)

- Most importantly, Vanilla Android. At that point, I'm guessing it will be Ice Cream [Sandwich?] or J...jello? copyright... wtv... something J.

No use buying a single-core phone in 2011 ! stick to the N1 for now...
[Nexus One General] Charming tac:
No samsung, I'll love it
[Nexus One General] Lord_Buckington:
Performance seems a bit lacklustre, but I'll wait until a final device is tested before making my mind up. Looks pretty cool though..
[Nexus One General] GldRush98:
mghz aren't everything. Compare a 3.2ghz P4 to a 1.2ghz Core2. Tell me who wins.

People get too obsessed with numbers, rather than ACTUAL performance... of which we don't know yet since the device is pretty much just a mock up and list of specs at this point.
[Nexus One General] Lord_Buckington:
I'm not talking about the specs but the supposed benchmarks. Obviously they need to be taken with a pinch of salt anyway.

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
i thought there was mention that google is trying to support AMOLED screens, which is why gingerbread went with black status bar. HTC is not getting supply of amoled screens, so google may not be going with HTC for the nexus again.

that said, i'm dying for another nexus phone from HTC. and if this pyramid is it, then i will buy it. HTC is the only manuf i like lately. and i purposly do NOT want an AMOLED screen anymore after my testing with the inspire SLCD. its so much more power efficient that its insane.
[Nexus One General] artesea:
Managed to get a quick pic of a HTC Pyramid today. Not too sure on the form factir, but like the iPad2 it does have lots of magnets.

http://twitpic.com/4a11nv
[Nexus One General] shoryken:
Its doesn't make mention of whether it has a 4g radios or not? Thats what kill the Nexus S for me. But this looks like something I'd put my N1 down for!
[Nexus One General] mrxniick:
Though it says google on the back, one of my main doubts for it being the next nesus is the fact that HTC's logo is on the front of the device. So far, both nexus devices have had a completely unbranded front
[Nexus One General] -A-P-M-:
How can we know those benchmarks are true and not faked?. We haven't even seen picture of Pyramid turned on, so I will rather wait for real benchamark tests when Pyramid will be annaunced..
[Nexus One General] haturaya:
Do agree with you regarding SLCD vs AMOLED. I've sold my AMOLED N1 just to get SLCD one. Better for text rendering. Don't like that pentile pixel looks. SLCD is better. Colour output more softer on SLCD compare to AMOLED. Battery wise, I don't see any significant different between those two. I've use both N1 for 2 weeks before deciding to stick with SLCD one.
[Nexus One General] mrxniick:
SAMOLED+ has no pentile... so an updated nexus S with a samsung screen would be pretty epic
[Nexus One General] pakraider:
Pun intended? ;)
[Nexus One General] worker1:
The Nexus One running 2.3.3 stock gets:

Smartbench 2011 productivity: 1014

Smartbench 2011 games: 687

Pyramid gets:

Smartbench 2011 productivity: 1743

Smartbench 2011 games: 1642
[Nexus One General] liam.lah:
DO WANT!

10char
[Nexus One General] ariochenigma:
I would be MORE than happy with a track PAD
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
where did you get the SLCD version? i'm actually thinking about swapping out my nexus one (ATT) for an SLCD version, but i doubt i will find one for ATT. i am even going to call HTC and ask if i can pay for them to do swap. or maybe i can buy the screen and swap out myself?

i was almost positive the battery would be better.
[Nexus One General] Memnoch30:
Battery would be better if you spend a lot of time with white screens like web browsing. SLCD consumes less power when displaying white, but more power when displaying black since AMOLED turns those pixels off.
[Nexus One General] wulfnuts:
all the phones are good now

whats most important to me is the screen. 4.3 or 4 is a must and its gotta have some anti glare cause my nexus one is pissing me off already
[Nexus One General] donutman:
I'm going with the G2x. Can't wait any longer for any other phone.
[Nexus One General] OferR:
i am really curious why do guys dislike the AMOLED so much.

I have an AMOLED N1 and a similar vintage SLCD HTC Desire.

Both screens are reflective, both are hardly usable in direct sun.

I find the AMOLED more readable and pleasant to the eye.

(I don't use auto brightness)

Before 2.3.3 there was some pinkish tint to the greys. I can't see it anymore with 2.3.3.

I use both phones, often side by side, and AMOLED is my choice.

Enlighten me please :)
[Nexus One General] ap3604:
I agree OferR, my choice is AMOLED as well :)

I had a warranty swap N1 sent to me by HTC that was an SLCD version so I used both for a few days before I sent the defective one back and found I really appreciate the AMOLED display more.
[Nexus One General] vegetaleb:
I hope it will be available during spring and not summer like the DHD, I love my N1 but I want to change for my bday :eek:
[Nexus One General] Dirk:
I couldn't live without the inky blacks of an AMOLED display. It just looks too good!
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
No one hates AMOLED, AMOLED is awesome (I love mine too). What some people are raging against is the PenTile matrix that a lot of AMOLED screens use. Doesn't really bother me though.
[Nexus One General] Putzy:
My Nexus One is a SLCD version, but comparing it to my Galaxy S i9000, I prefer the LCD in the Nexus One, compared to the AMOLED in my Galaxy S. I was happy with the Galaxy S when I bought it, and happy with the Nexus One when I bought it. It is a matter of personal preference though.

Still, I'd be happy with either type of screen in a phone - I don't do anything major with color on my phone, that is for my desktop computer.

I primarily judge phones on their build quality and software support. This phone looks like it has the potential of meeting both of those criteria.
[Nexus One General] flixos:
What it's pretty amazing for me is that, after this time, the Nexus One is still one of the sexiest mobiles out there...far better even than the Nexus S now that both have Gingerbread. Of course, imho ;)
[Nexus One General] DarsVaeda:
That it has no trackball is just logical...not even the nexus one has full trackball notifications anymore. And with the new text selection thing, it sure points where they are going.

Just touch input, no buttons.

So this could be valid and no photoshop made up thing.
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
I really don't understand why Google doesn't understand the need for persistent notifications. Thank god there will still be apps that allow you to repeat the vibrating notification, but I'll really miss my light when I finally replace my N1.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
the trackball is so important for other things too. when i'm browsing a forum, and the bottom lists all the page numbers of the thread, i use the trackball to pick the page i want all the time. it makes it a breeze with the trackball. without it makes it extremely tedious.

and the notification is a must have. i doubt google removed the notifications on the nexus one, it probably just changed. are you sure?
[Nexus One General] ArchosRocker:
i hate it ;p
[Nexus One General] OferR:
The trackball?

It's really needed on the N1 when the touch screen misbehaves ;-)
[Nexus One General] vinnyjr:
I like the idea of a track ball or track pad.. The track pad on the G2 is very cool. It still lights up around the edges but is low profile. The pyramid with the G2 track pad would be stellar. HTC IMO along with Google is unbeatable.
[Nexus One General] -A-P-M-:
This time HTC branding, with HTC Sense ...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/mr-blurrycam-bags-an-silvery-striped-smartphone-is-this-the/
[Nexus One General] EErez:
that seriously blows. i was seriously hoping for a new dev phone, or at least a stock os device like the g2. it seams like its just another variant of the 4.3 inch form factor with a slightly newer htc sense. bummer.
[Nexus One General] wang1404:
OMG that damn thing is just too sexy to look at. Until you know all the details which "with HTC Sense" will show up, blows. IDK though, I'm still considering it. It's just really sexy. I'm 60% not getting it cuz Google logo is nowhere to be found. I like to pull my phone out every once in awhile just to appreciate the design, the quality and the Google logo :) Trackball also does matter to me cuz it adds to the beauty of different color lighting up. One more thing, Anybody notice that only Nexus One and this Pyramid has a Chrome circle around the camera but not on any other device? It just makes it looks much more luxurious
[Nexus One General] Dirk:
WVGA or qHD?

http://phandroid.com/2011/03/21/htc-pyramid-gets-pictured-in-the-wild/

http://androidcommunity.com/htc-pyramid-could-have-960-x-540-qhd-display-tips-latest-leak-20110322/
[Nexus One General] Hollow.Droid:
WVGA would spoil it a little, the rest of the specs are bang on though.
[Nexus One General] Carloswithac:
You know, I thought I'd miss the trackball on my Nexus One when I got my G2, but I don't. :p
[Nexus One General] -A-P-M-:
Maybe it will be in two versions - one with HTC branding (and with HTC Sense) and second with Nexus branding (and with stock Android). Similar like Nexus One and HTC Desire.
[Nexus One General] Dirk:
The next Nexus will be the one released with Ice-Cream. If that were the Pyramid we'd know about it by now ;)
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
why does HTC keep making these new phones that are locked into the stock sized battery? the Inspire, Pyramid, they all have funky back covers such that an extended battery will never exist for these devices because it is physically impossible. like seriously, that's a little bonkers if you think about it. even the Desire S back, its stuck with one size only.
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
800x480 = no buy.

Tired of these half assed attempts. Handset makers refuse to put all the best features in a single phone.
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
I like these specs...too bad at&t will be raining on our parade :eek:

"I know there is a lot of confusion regarding the AT&T/T-Mobile deal but what seems to be forgotten is that life goes on. The deal could fall apart, the government could reject it or a thousand other things could take place that causes it to not happen. With that in mind, T-Mobile is running business as usual which means phones will still launch. Thankfully, to try and smooth the masses I’ve received some coincidentally timed information regarding the HTC Pyramid specs along with a release date from a solid source.

-480 x 800 display

-Dual-core 1.2 GHz processor

-768MB of processor RAM

-8MP rear cam; VGA front cam

-HSPA+ (14.4 Mbps)

-Android 2.4 (repeat 2.4)

-DLNA

-HTC Sense 3.0

Android 2.4 you say? Yup, that’s what we are being told! Our source pinpoints a June release timeframe though the actual day is unknown. Our ninja did say that it is considerably sleeker and lighter than the HTC Thunderbolt for Verizon."

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/03/htc-pyramid-specs-hit-the-inbox-launching-in-june-with-android-2-4/
[Nexus One General] vegetaleb:
I think many N1 users will shift to LG Optimus 2X because:

-Dual core speed galore

-Many big names of XDA Devs are getting it

-8mp + 1080p video rec

-Tegra 2

-Screen technology like iphone 4

-Price is very sweet for its packed specs ;)

HTC Pyramid is nice but:

-Not before June/July even August for some countries

-Pricey

-If 4.3'' screen it will be too big
[Nexus One General] bigmout:
I'm seriously considering the T-Mobile version (G2x) which will reportedly have vanilla Android.
[Nexus One General] Dirk:
That would definately be a step in the right direction if it's true!
[Nexus One General] Memnoch30:
It's true. It was just announced.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/22/lgs-t-mobile-g2x-announced-available-later-this-spring/

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/22/t-mobile-g2x-from-lg-hands-on-video/

edit: Forgot to add that according to Tmo's site, it has both frequencies for Tmo (AWS) and for ATT (850/1900)

Link: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=T-Mobile-G2x-with-Google
[Nexus One General] -A-P-M-:
CTIA has started, still no news about HTC Pyramid ? :confused:
[Nexus One General] Memnoch30:
And if I'm not mistaken, T-Mobile already finished its announcements. Maybe they're trying to add AT&T's frequencies to the radio? I would love to have that Pyramid. The video card isn't as robust as the Tegra2 from preliminary benchmarks but it definitely is a big Nexus One and I love my current Nexus One's build so much that I'd rather stay with something nice like that.
[Nexus One General] wang1404:
Isn't the pyramid supposed to have qhd screen that is used in recent dualcore devices?
[Nexus One General] TheDeadCPU:
Pyramid = EVO 3D.

Most likely without the 3D.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
What is the price and where did you read it? :confused::confused:
[Nexus One General] bigmout:
Wow... that might seal the deal for me.
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
The HTC Pyramid will be the choice for my Nexus upgrade and XDA development support! But it will need to be quadband...
[Nexus One General] -A-P-M-:
More photos:

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/exclusive-htc-pyramid-photos/

But I don't know if I want to wait much longer for launch...
[Nexus One General] texas-saluki:
no way... as much as I want the guys in Schaumburg to be sucessful the people at moto are arrogant and want to lock down a device. They need to stick with 2 way radios. :p

The xoom is cool but over priced... the atrix is cool...but the dock...seriously over priced (you can get a decent laptop for the cost)

An open google device goes against their culture. :rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] helen_xxxx:
My heart sunk a little when I saw the word 'Sense' :(
[Nexus One General] cqms13:
if cm and teamdouche jump on this then this will be next for me - love the htc look for phones and specs do it for me too:D
[Nexus One General] wang1404:
They always do. For that sexy phone no doubt they will
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
From what I've read, they've all committed to the G2x.
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
If the next Nexus device was made by Motorola it would not be "locked down", because just like the Xoom Google wouldn't allow it.

The 32GB Wi-Fi only Xoom cost 600$, just like the 32GB Wi-Fi only iPad 2. You can still claim this as overpriced, but it is not overpriced compared to the competition.

I don't care about the Atrix.

Also I believe that if Motorola wants to lock down their devices let them. Just ignore what they sell and purchase something else. It isn't that hard. If they continue to make money they have no reason to listen to those who complain. Just like those who hate TouchWiz, but the major Galaxy S devices still continue to make Samsung millions. Its not about you, its about money.
[Nexus One General] krabman:
Yep, money talks with decision makers in corporations. Everything comes down to the dollar. Not that this means they are making good decisions in all cases but money is the defining factor in every decision a corporation makes.

It is worth pointing out that Motos comeback handset was the droid which of course was not locked down. Realistically the control of user experience excuse is just that, an excuse. The vast majority of owners will never even know if the phone was locked down or not and what this means. I have never seen any objective data showing that OEMs incur extra warranty costs for phones that can be rooted over those that cannot and its my thought that if such data existed they would be crowing it from the highest rooftops. I have however seen data showing that savvy users tend to use less tech support reducing costs there.

At any rate I agree, if you want your voice heard vote with your wallets.
[Nexus One General] esUK:
It's probably way too early to even think about, but what's the chance of this phone being sold unlocked in the UK?
[Nexus One General] iakeco:
This is my next phone
[Nexus One General] Lightning N1:
I actually think this is a good thing, because I think the sense phones have a bigger system partition. I am always running out of room on the Nexus.
[Nexus One General] -A-P-M-:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/06/htc-pyramid-to-launch-on-april-12th-under-the-name-of-htc-sensat/

Looks like Pyramid will be revealed on 12. April. So phone to choose for this year will be HTC Pyramid or Galaxy S2. I still think I will get Galaxy S2...
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Or G2x. :cool:

Or some unannounced phone coming out later in the year with quad-core processors, Adreno 500 GPU, and lasers shooting from the top.
[Nexus One General] gumpwumper:
In regards to the lasers, please tell me people aren't serious with this 3D phone noise?
[Nexus One General] vegetaleb:
SE Arc is the phone to get after N1, bootloader unlockable, lot of roms will come on this piece of art :rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] djmcnz:
I agree and not just because I have one...

It comes with an unencrypted bootloader, the HTC Sensation (Pyramid) will probably be encrypted if recent statements are to be believed.

On the O2x we already have:

Unlocked bootloader

Full permanent root

Custom recovery

Custom ROM's

Custom kernel with 1.4GHz stable overclock

Basically, at the moment it is the "Next Nexus" (minus Gingerbread) - far better than the Nexus S (even with GB).

It benchmarked in Quadrant ~2400 out of the box, now we're getting consistent 4000+ in Quadrant... I'm not a benchmarking fan but these numbers are impressive.

It has some bugs though, some of them serious but I tend to expect that with new releases.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Agreed. The only thing missing is a qHD screen and 1 GB RAM.

How does it fare with 512 though? How much difference would 1 GB make? I still wish it had 1 GB but maybe it's not that big of deal.
[Nexus One General] djmcnz:
No worse than the Nexus One but 1GB would be better... e.g if I play a game WidgetLocker gets regularly killed and auto restarts (I see the su toast msg). Even 7xx would be good. Android memory management works but I would like to see it have to work less often...

I also agree on the screen but I actually think qHD won't come into its own for a while... it's still not widely supported yet and it's a little slow so I can wait for that one.

The 2x is not a massive upgrade from the N1 - purely because the N1 was so groundbreaking - but it is an upgrade nevertheless.

LG expect to release GB soon too so that is promising.
[Nexus One General] uoY_redruM:
Here's an update on this, from yesterday, in case anybody hasn't seen it...

http://www.slashgear.com/htc-pyramid-to-launch-as-htc-sensation-06144615/

I'm really torn between the G2X and this to be honest. I kind of like the way this one looks, mainly that bottom piece being a bit too big on the G2X.
[Nexus One General] djmcnz:
So, I know it's a lot of money but really, one's a myth and the other is pwned so if you want one now the choice is obvious.

If you don't need one for three or eight months (release/cracked?) then make the decision when you do need it, more options will be available then.

IMHO.
[Nexus One General] nomisunrider:
It would be nice if one of these "leaks" would include the dimensions and weight of the pyramid. I really think the G2X/O2X is the largest I want to carry around.
[Nexus One General] uoY_redruM:
Yeah, you have a valid point. I'm the kind of guy who has to have the latest and greatest when it comes to technology...unfortunately because I pay more most of the time and sometimes make the occasional bad buy...but I think I'll play it smart and wait.

My 6-month upgrade is next month (but who knows what kind of upgrade that is, I've never had T-Mobile on contract until November) and obviously my one year will be in November.

I should play it smart and just wait...plus, by that time, developers would have their hands on it and start cracking away.
[Nexus One General] uoY_redruM:
Per their (HTC) Facebook page:

http://www.htc.com/www/product/sensation/overview.html
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
BOOM dual-core CPU AND qHD.

The Pyramid/Sensation is 100% the dream-specced phone.

Now, the main question is: is it easily-hackable for CM7 etc or did HTC go the Motorola route?

Also, which one is better: Tegra 2 or the 1.2 GHz (Snapdragon?) in this phone?
[Nexus One General] sstang2006:
I'm wondering the same thing.