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[Epic 4G General] kos26:
Sorry for the double post, the xda app submitted when open the physical keyboard. I too have been wondering what the big deal is with cm.. I can't find any concrete info that tells me what is so great about it. I'm on acs now and love it.
[Epic 4G General] spitefulrain:
It will not have CIQ. That is from Sprint, and this will have no traces of sprint whatsoever.
[Epic 4G General] dustinmatthews87:
CM is completely customizable, it comes with all kinds of tweaks to make the phone a whole lot smoother, it gets updated constantly, and since its based on AOSP you can really do what ever you want with it. Whereas a stock samsung ROM you have to be careful what you do cause so many things rely on frame work and what not. The CM team is absolutely amazing the wrote code completely from scratch for $g and full HDMI mirroring to work on the evo. Also the size of the rom, CM is around 80 mb where most stock roms are 200, so you will have that much more space on the phone.
[Epic 4G General] dwallersv:
To set the record straight, I am hardly a "noob" in the sense that some here seem to think. I'm building kernels for my own use, and am working on a rewrite of the keyboard driver to more completely fix the problem so skillfully determined and patched by mkasick.

What I'm "noob" at is understanding in detail what I gain, and give up, by installing CM over the other custom ROMs based on stock releases. I have the broad strokes -- I need more specifics to decide if it's worth the hassle to give it a try.

We now have two new pieces of valuable information not obvious in any of the general info out there: Compromised video support (negative), no CIQ (positive). So, a little progress.

Sent from my mind using telepathitalk
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
i doubt anyone actually knows what you're asking....

Cyanogenmod is just pure android no bloatware from sprint/sammy

the way android was meant to be.
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
Pretty simple: If it is software that is added by a carrier or a manufacture (Sprint ID, touchWhiz, Samsungs Video Codecs) It will not be there. What it does have:

CM UI Tweaks, CM Hardware Tweaks, CM Performance enhancement options (adjustable heapsize) Default install location, Screen On Animation, Surface Dithering, Locking the Homescreen App in memory (so it doesn't rebuild it self when you press home), locking the messaging app in memory, DSP Audio Manager for Custom EQ setups over BT, Speaker, and head phones, Lock screen gestures, Lock screen music controls....

This is all of the top of my head. :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
O O Don't forget the BJ's Feature

i even dumped my GF
[Epic 4G General] Dameon87:
I concur. You are really thinking too far into things. There are very few limitations that cm7 will bring. For all of these, there are other apps that rectify it.
[Epic 4G General] skywalkr2:
Thanks Devin for a great response. Why is it we needed development to come give a nice answer... and the rest of the users just wanted to be know it all jerks?
[Epic 4G General] MaxPatlick:
agreed, thanks :D

aww man, don't do that.. it doesn't really help anything, it just invites people to get all butt hurt about your being butt hurt about whatever the ****.. Just let it go. :cool:

My only question about CM is the obvious one.. "Is it done yet? (for my phone obviously)"
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
Thanks for the great answer Devin and thanks to the OP for pushing the question until we got an in depth answer.
[Epic 4G General] a2tz:
Definently thanks for the awesome response. I have a buddy with an evo and convinced him to flash cm7 but he said he didn't like it and went to something else before I played with it. I did try it out briefly on another friends though. Pretty nice. I still didn't have a good grasp as to what....the big deal was. But I get it now. So mad probs to you guys working on it. Thanks
[Epic 4G General] a2tz:
I would assume...from my limited understanding that the aosp obviously would hve no video accelerations. Cm7 would be built to "work" on the hardware as its built up since its not a nexus phone. This is usually detailed in their cm thread of what works and what isn't. 4g or video for example. Once they get video accel working and release a stable build.....other dev's can then take cm code and optimize/change it how they see fit. Is that how that works? Are there roms based off cyanogen for the evo? Or am I wrong.

And I realize this doesn't really answer the "point" of the OP's questions really. Just talking aloud
[Epic 4G General] casholday86:
I have looked at some on youtube and so far the best anroids seem to be from either motoman or cyanogen. I dont blame you for wanting to know why everybody likes it but try finding a video that shows in great detail everything that works and doesnt or test it yourself. Testing it yourself is the only way you will really know whats good money and whats not.
[Epic 4G General] Mushmaster:
Dude in the time it took to write that you could've gone and figured out what touchwiz/samsung add to stock android.

Hint: It's not a very long list.
[Epic 4G General] spartasr:
So just to confirm it would be almost impossible to get Sprint TV working with Cyanogen (That's really the only Sprint app I kinda care about:P)
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
Not impossible, actually pretty easy in the case of Sprint TV
[Epic 4G General] DevinXtreme:
Heh, I understand your question, and I understood it from the beginning :p

However, what you're asking for isn't as simple as "This is what is different and this is what it is the same". What you're asking for would read much more like a tech-manual for an operating system (seriously, open the box for your Epic and pull out the manual for Android... that's what has to be written for CyanogenMod).

I can answer your specific questions here:

Video - On a completed system, all videos should work on CyanogenMod. What is holding us back is the hardware acceleration. We have some video working, but not all. Higher-quality video doesn't work right now at all.

Streaming - Will work on a completed system. Audio streams already work and I'm mostly certain video streaming does as well.

Sprint bloatware - NONE of it is there. None. Nada. Zilch. Sprint has absolutely completely nothing to do with this ROM. Nothing that Sprint has made will be included. However, hacks and workarounds can and will be made to get the ones you can't live without to a working state.

CyanogenMod isn't meant to gimp our phones. Not by a long shot. It's actually meant to provide a much fuller experience. It optimizes and enhances nearly everything that you're used to. With CyanogenMod, you have a faster, cleaner, safer, more battery-efficient machine than you do with any other ROM. It's more user-friendly, more feature-full, and far more useful than what you're used to.

The best thing you can do is go to YouTube and watch videos about CM7. Every single phone with stable, officially supported CM7 ROMs (Well, RC2 is where they're at) will have the same experience. That will answer a lot more than I can without writing a tech-manual. You'll see features that will blow your mind, stuff that you wish you had, and things that will surprise you in ways you didn't know your phone could. On-the-fly theme changing, lock screen modifying (different styles AND a TON more functionality added), lock screen gestures, integrated settings that we have workarounds for now, and so, so, so much more.

The reason your question will never feel "answered" is that it simply can't be. CyanogenMod is an ever-evolving platform. I fall back on this reply a lot, but, put simply, it's complicated.

EDIT: To further explain, think of it this way: You have two Linux users. Person A has been using Ubuntu, and person B uses Gentoo. Person A asks person B to explain, in detail, what is different about Gentoo. It's not nearly a simple, cut-and-dry question.
[Epic 4G General] dwallersv:
Devin -- thanks again for another great post! The cobwebs are starting to clear, which was the point of this thread anyway, even if the manner in which I thought to clear them may not be apropos.

I'll wander around YouTube for CM7 videos, and report here with links to what, IMHO, are the most helpful.

And an editorial comment: It constantly amuses me that there seem to be two types of people that come to forums: Those that try to help, addressing topically in their posts, and those that seem more concerned with personal sniping, as if there's anyone reading who cares. Do some people have comically oversized spleens requiring constant venting that, in the course of my life, I've somehow never met face to face? :D

The latter add nothing to a discussion at all, and in fact subtract from it. We all know what most of us think of such people. I often wonder if they do.

Spleenies aside, I have no doubt at all that this thread, even at this embryonic stage, has been uniquely helpful to some in our community, so it's been worth it. Perhaps we can continue to add more enlightenment here about CM going forward.

For me, what I've learned so far has tipped the scales in favor of giving CM7 a whirl, when it gets to beta.
[Epic 4G General] bigray327:
Thanks for the fantastic thread. Suggestion: combine Devin's posts into one and put it in post #2 of the CM7 thread, when it's released for real.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samuel2706:
What is the best ROM for battery usuage?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eliashadow:
Every sense with leedroid kernel...
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thinker3300:
i use revolution hd 3.1 and its great for performance and battery
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rory1980:
I will second that Revolution HD 3.1 makes such a difference to battery life, its much smoother than stock too. Tried CM7 and CoreDroid but they were both a little too battery hungry to be useful.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] runebune:
ROM, Kernel and Radio

I have used LeeDroid HD, Spike CM7 and Android Revolution HD. All with different kernels and radios.

I would think the battery drain has to do with both ROM, Kernel and Radio versions (and maybe more). So it's vital that all the components is compatible. Most ROM devs recommend both a radio and a kernel.

And of cause it depends on all the services and app installed after the flash ;)

Anyway, to you question:

I use the new Spike CM7 build 19 and have great battery life now.

I had problems with no sleep mode on other ROM/Kernel before. (and yes I have tried various patches)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vispe85:
I'm using CM7 latest nightly with mad murdocks battery fix and the the most latest radio and I'm getting 3-5 mA battery drain while in standby (with constant 3g, mobile data and sync on). So I'd say all the roms are quite close to each other when it comes to battery drain nowadays and the battery drain isn't a main concern anymore while choosing between roms.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sanjayng:
My friend and myself bought the phones on same day. He runs Revolution and I run LeeDroid. Looks like there is a small advantage with LeeDroid.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] urbangear:
i'm using Spike CM7 build 19 flashed with mad-murdock's batfix build7 and my battery life is great
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matt_pan:
I recommend Android Revolution HD 3.2 for you!

I had 2-3 days of battery with ARHD3.1 all the time!
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vispe85:
Not using the phone much huh?! :rolleyes:
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matt_pan:
Yes and No

I don't know what would be much...

But with texting all day, some calls I get this, but yeah, I immediatelly turn off the display after using my phone and have deactivated all unnessesary stuff

I also removed most of the sense stuff and don't use twitter or something

the only syncing things are mail (every hour) and google (once a day)

but yeah, 1-2 days are easy with this, but mostely 2+
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vispe85:
I'm not saying that it isn't possible as you can get a week out of the device if you just let it run on standby :D but as soon as you switch the screen on the consumption jumps to at least around 200mA and add a little gaming, browsing etc the consumption doubles from that (not an exact figure). So what I am saying is that it's kind of false to imply that another rom has way better battery consumption if you really don't use it that much. As it has been implied in many other threads that you just can't get over a day out of the device if you actively use it. It's just maths and there is no way around it as 1230mAhs will only get you that far :rolleyes:

It is possible to get a few days by using it as a "regular" phone, it is all really usage dependent, and therefore the times are pretty hard to compare.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] idlefrog:
I am seeing a battery improvement using Coredroid V4 over Coredroid V3.2.

Today I have given the phone light use, about 4 short phone calls, email browsing, some facebook browsing but no gaming and I am at 73% after 12 hrs from full charge.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yazayad:
Combination of Buzz 1.3.8.2. 1.61GHz kernel, ARHD 3.2 with sense and the recommended radio is working great for me battery- and performance-wize. Using On demand gov at 1.22 GHz with 230-460MHz screen off profile.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matt_pan:
I did'nt say that it all depends on the ROM I use, but with my normal mobile phone lifestyle and this ROM I get those battery lifetime. It was ment as an example, because on the other hand, if I use my DHD more frequent with playing games and stuff, I don't get around the 24h with a single battery charge, but that's (like you say) ROM independet because of the big display consumption and the 1230mA battery.

I just wanted to state the ROM I use with my normal battery experience for the thread author to test out.

It all depends on the user ;)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshoon:
I can easily reach this with stock rom...

Syncing every hour, sometimes tweeting, txting, and sometimes looking in market, just normal use.
[HD Mini General] mbdesign:
Hello,

the camera in android works very bad.

1. he draws foto' s reversed

2. there too much blue colour sits in the camera (blauw is red?)

(on winmo the camera works perfectly)

do you have this also?
[HD Mini General] Fabiodr88:
Scusate l'off topic!

Salve, sono nuovo del sito, e sono uno dei pochissimi italiani a possedere un Htc Mini HD. Questo è un problema perchè in italia ed italiano, della modifica per portare Android sul Mini non riesco a trovare informazioni.

Per piacere, qualcuno può dirmi come installare Android sul Mini?

Dandomi una guida e i programmi per fare tutto?

Grazie spero sia stato chiaro :)

Hi, I'm new to the site, and are one of the few Italians to have a Htc Mini HD. This is a problem because in Italy and Italian versions of changes to port Android on the Mini can not find information.

Please, can someone tell me how to install Android on the Mini?

Giving me a guide and plans to do everything?

Thanks I hope it was clear:)
[HD Mini General] mbdesign:
You can read how to install android here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=952996 :)
[HD Mini General] JAntrobus:
These are known problems. Please read the posts in the developer section for more information. There isn't a fix for it yet.
[HD Mini General] iPlasm:
Mine is also Italian HTC HD Mini, but I haven't problem of Camera.

The Only Problem I have is the Android is too slow and boots Android about 33 Minutes :p
[HD Mini General] Fabiodr88:
I understand! : D

I want to ask if I can tell you simply how to do and where to download programs to install Android.

I ask because I do not understand English well and use the translator! XD
[HD Mini General] iPlasm:
Go to Android Market? :p
[HD Mini General] tzacapaca:
you can't download anything from market at the moment as sd card is not write enabled...:(
[HD Mini General] iPlasm:
Soon it will be enable :P

Anything is everywhere; INTERNET.... hehehehe
[HD Mini General] Kakiller93:
Enabled!

I downloaded a version from xda and its enabled:D

"new kernel Cyanogen mod 2.6.32, new system.ext2, new initrd.gz...."

By cardsharing!
[HD Mini General] tzacapaca:
write mode is not enabled..what are you talking about?:confused:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t12icky0:
im wanting the new HDMwin kernel source added to the netarchy-toastmod-bfs-havs-nosbc-universal kernel.

i want to know how to do this or if its possible. i hate to change kernels as i get good battery life with netarchy's. if someone could do this or could direct me in the direction on how to do this it would be appreciated. Thanks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crossrocker:
Its not that easy. You'll have to wait for an update.

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] socrated13:
I'm no newcomer to the captivate(running cm7 now, had experience with many other roms in the past) HOWEVER I have never found a definitive answer on how to tell what kernels are compatible with what bases/roms.

KB1 based, Suckerpunch/Speedmod based, Firebird, etc. etc.

How can I tell which kernels work with which roms?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheEscapist:
Most of them will say. For example, mine explicitly says CM7.

Otherwise, anything based off KB1 needs to be run with a KB1 rom, and anything reoriented needs to be run with an i9000 rom.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] socrated13:
Such as? :confused: Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't find any roms that explicitly state being based on KB1 other than Cognition. Is it the same as Rogers 2.2?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] modest_mandroid:
Torch is also based off of kb1, if I'm not mistaken.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] ralph9994:
So i have this milestone laying around here. ( i live in the Netherlands but somehow i got an spanish milestone.)

and its already rooted.

but now i want to put custom roms on it.

but when i want to install Update.zip to install open recovery its says E0CD marker or something.

anyone knows what im doing wrong??
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zviki:
You need vulnerable recovery first and open recovery folder on SD card+update.zip.With update.zip you just run OR.You did not write which version of android you have on phone.But... there is many many threads about this here.Just search.

By the way - you do not know where and how you got the Spanish version of the phone? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] wisefreakz:
I recommend the Androidiani Open recovery 3.3.

Good luck!
[Click Android Development] Pottkopp:
original rom-thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=939122

Hey guys ;)

I edited Kalim's rom a little bit so far, that I included his libcamera.so from the latest RC2.1 in that RC1, because in RC1 that gps issue doesn't come up ;)

Download: Multiupload
[Click Android Development] .dot:
Hey, thanks for editing and uploading kalims rom.

But isn't it better to tell kalim how you've done it and wait for him releasing another version? so we didn't confuse other user.. it's already confusing with all the nightbuilds, RCs, different CM7 roms and so on..

:)
[Click Android Development] KalimochoAz:
I have solved this using actual code, so no need to go back to RC1. Testers are making all tests to the new ROM so if all works, I will release this tomorrow on an RC2.2.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] marian.tanasa:
Is there a solution to IM chat with yahoo contacts on Windows Live messenger (wm6.1). I added an IM yahoo on my messenger list but it is not online even if it is connected to yahoo messenger.

WLM desktop application can connect multiple servers messengers (Yahoo, Facebook ...) but on WLM mobile the only furniture in the MSN contacts.

Sorry for my bad English.

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] marian.tanasa:
has no solution to this problem?

all my friends use Yahoo IM and I want to be able to converse with them on the phone with Windows Live messeger.

please help me!

thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] marian.tanasa:
I found an explanation, for my problem, to our colleague Devtone, but do not understand the procedure:

"Use a windows client to add a 'cross user', yahoo or WLM. Both need to be V8+ for adding each others users."

someone help me?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] marian.tanasa:
really, nobody has a solution?

disappointing!

I'm sorry!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Malaz:
there is many programs can be used to IM (MSN-Yahoo-Facebook,,,etc.)

Like Ebuddy : (www.ebuddy.com)

Or Palringo : (www.palringo.com)

and many others.

I hope this is what you are looking for
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ai6908:
NVM...........
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] altae:
Fring does support yahoo. Im+ is the best messenger software in my opinion and naturally supports yahoo. But it's not freeware.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ai6908:
IM+ basic version without FB chat is a freeware...:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] akhil201:
ALL ROMS FOR HTC TOUCH DIAMOND HAVE A PROBLEM....

I HAVE TRY 1 ROM IN MASSAGE HAVE PROBLEM

TRY ANOTHER ONE MASSAGE IS OK IN IN DIALING HAVE PROBLEM NOW

TRY OTHER SAME ****** ****

IS THERE A GOOD ROM I CAN PUT ON MY ****???

I HAVE TRY ABOUT 6 OR MORE ROMS IN MY MOBILE

CAN SME1 TELL ME WHICH ROM IS PERFECT FOR MY DIAMOND??

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] sheennick123456:
it seems like you are a piece of ****

respect the developers who put a lot of time and efforts into making ROMs

try to learn to appreciate other peoples hard work

or better make your own ROM
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] pulser_g2:
First, learn to turn off caps lock

Second, watch the language

Third, read the rules about posting in development

Fourth, respect developers and make your own ROM. This is a development site for a reason. Develop it yourself, or stop complaining
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spuzzum:
which of these audio formats are the best for sound quality?

I want to listen to music on my new phone and since i have the storage i would like it to sound as good as possible.

MP3, AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, WAV, MIDI
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dio05:
WAV is the best but the largest in size. Also if you are using the stock ear piece then none of the format will make much difference.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spuzzum:
thanks for taking the time to respond.

Much appreciated.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dio05:
ur welcome. The alternative would be 192mp3 format anything below that sounds crappy to me
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yokozuna82:
Stock ear piece? Headphones? The atrix did not come with headphones
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dio05:
:eek:moto so cheapo? cannot even afford to provide earpiece for the phone:confused:
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BravoMotorola:
Yes, you are a confuzzled Singaporean.:confused::confused::confused:

LOL actually I think they took the whole budget for the whole thing and pretty much put it all towards the phone.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fincan:
It's not in your list but FLAC is the best one. It is losless (same with the WAV) however still compressed so each CD takes rough a third of the size it takes if it is WAV.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cantIntoCode:
.Flac is the best music format!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lindsaytheflint:
MIDI is not for sound recordings, it's for synthesized music. Not comparable to the others.

WAV is perfect quality, but far too large to be usable for a music collection.

Out of the usable ones, the quality is best to worst:

eAAC+, AAC+, AAC, MP3

I'm not sure if everything supports eAAC+ (AKA HE-AACv2) or AAC+ (AKA HE-AACv1), but AAC is fairly widely used these days. I wouldn't bother with MP3, unless your media is already in that format. It's a very old format, and has been improved on several times. It's a legacy codec, not a current standard.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lindsaytheflint:
And FLAC is supported by PowerAmp on Android... Probably other music players too.