yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xoom General] someone0:
I'm not a fan of either device too. I just think Xoom doesn't go far enough in certain area. I'll lay out here some of the topic that already discuss but didn't touch the right spot as well.

1. Expansion slot. While I agree that Xoom has an upper hand on this, but just slightly. WTF is motorola thinking? I mean the darn tablet is big enough, why stop at microSD, when a full SD and I mean SDHC if not SDXC would be a lot more favorable and much more useful than microSD. If it's a full SD, then there will be no hesitation for many people.

2. Screen. I would call an even on this between Xoom and iPad 2. I think the actual panel is better on the iPad, but it lacks the resolution. Xoom has a screen resolution that's better for media player, while iPad is fine for book reading, but trying to play 720p or 1080 on the actual device itself isn't quite right. So, I think this is kinda preferential depend on what each user want to do with the device.

3. Apps. iPad & iPad 2, has a hugh lead on this and that's exactly what I mean, a lead and it's not a stop gap. There will be more apps for both platform later. If we look at smartphone platform, we will see that while Android was bebind initially, the development of apps will catch up. There are still plenty of developers that want to develop for Android also. But with that said, even as of today, Android smartphone still lack certain categories of apps like games and children apps. If those area are not important to you then I suppose Android tablet will do just fine, but I wouldn't hold my breath. For god sake, we are not buying tablet to just run stock ROM and not running any other apps right. If the app you want isn't available for that platform you wouldn't buy it right? Isn't that's also the reason why Windows is still a dominant OS in the desktop and laptop market?

4. Future development & enhancement. Many of the discussion here comparing both Xoom and iPad 2 as is. Which in many way is fine, but when thinking about it, both will be upgrade w/ newer firmware over the years. So why are we pointing a finger at the CPU benchmark now? And some of that criticism goes for battery as well. Look at what Froyo did to Android smartphone platform. Although Honeycomb is 3.0 at the moment, it's practically an Android Tablet 1.0 operating system. So, there is still room for improvement and optimization to the tablet and that means battery optimization as well. I couldn't care much about iPad 2 and Xoom benchmark for now, unless it's by a hugh margin. Both device are new to the market and who say that the benchmark isn't favorable one platform over another in a hind sight. If people can say there isn't much app for Honeycomb OS, then obviously there is a lack of good understanding for the platform, can you not say the same for the developers that develop the benchmark tool?

I'm not saying that Xoom is better than iPad 2 or vice-versa. All I'm saying is there is still a lots of question mark here? And people are playing fill-in-the-blank game. I don't mind the game as long as it's filled w/ logic not random guesses.
[Xoom General] Eclair~:
The only reason I don't care that the iPad 2's hardware is superior is because the Xoom still accomplishes everything I want just fine. And of course because it runs Android.

Why can't we simply admit without argument that the iPad 2 has a superior processor and better screen? I don't care much about battery life as that can be easily fixed with an underclock, and undervolt, but other than that the Xoom is completely fine, and of course it will improve over time. The only reason that I don't like the fact that the iPad 2 has won in benchmarks is because iPad fanboys will just eat this up. "Oh I love my Xoom!", "Yea! Too bad it can't score 100+ in linpack!"..

Hopefully with further versions of Android for tablets, more optimization will be made.
[Xoom General] ryan562:
X 2. Also watch anandtechs youtube review on multitasking between the two tablets. On the ipad2 u constantly have to press on the home button. Its way more tedious to multitask on IOS.

Anand stated that the Xoom gives him more of a True PC experience in this regard including the use of the top and bottom task bars on Honeycomb. But Lets face it apple fan boys, apple the iPad2 is basically an enlarged ipod touch that sure looks nice and runs smooth. Thanks but no thanks. The Xoom does its job for my needs.
[Xoom General] Eclair~:
"The gpu benchmarks will get improved significantly."

Eh, I don't know man. I find this hard to believe. If the Tegra 2 loses it loses. I don't know how much can be done to the software to really make it up to par with the A5... I'm sure they might get "improved", but.... I don't know by how much, if possible at all.
[Xoom General] mobius999:
He might not, but I do. Products are on the drawing board years before release. When the Ipad was released, Apple was most likely in the process and close to finalizing terms with the manufacturers and suppliers for the Ipad 2. Based on what they saw for sales, it would have been a good move to adjust projections.

To address your second question, yes and no. It WAS good for Apple to be always out of stock on the 1st gen Ipad. This got them alot of publicity. There was zero downside, because they didn't have competition. This is not true today.

It's hard for me to respond to Ifans since most carry far too much emotion into any discussion. They defend Apple like they would a relative if you bring up negatives. Ridiculous.

I've seen manys Ifans saying that the Xoom isn't competition because the released model isn't selling. I'd like to point out, unlike Ifans, many android users think with their brain, not their heart.

When a wifi version is coming out in a few days, without a contract and 25% less than the carrier version, why would I buy a Xoom now?

Wait till the 24th before you judge the Xoom's success Ifans. It is the Ipad killer. 3g tether ftw.
[Xoom General] mobius999:
Agreed.

The Ipad2 doesn't pull 13 hours of video playback. No other source on this planet claims that. Even Apple. It's false.

This same source claims Honeycomb is 20% slower than iOS in loading webpages. And yet it's been proven Android beats iOS by 50%-84% in speed loading webpages. Granted this is Froyo/Gingerbread, but I highly doubt Google forgot how to code when they made Honeycomb.

I smell a fanboy who spent a long time surfing through google results to find something that supported his point.

The next time you want to make a point, try linking a KNOWN site that people believe, like Engadget or a million others, not one that doesn't even have it's "About Us" page built.

To finish......OWNED.

EDIT: The person you are quoting might have meant the Epic and not the Evo. The GPU in the Epic CRUSHES the Iphone.
[Xoom General] musashiken:
Actually, I spent some time going through a few Ipad2 vs Xoom videos on youtube. It seems that even though the Ipad2 starts loading websites a tad faster than the Xoom but it does so by loading parts of the page one at a time. Xoom on the other hand takes a tad longer to start loading a page but it loads it all at once. You'll see that both Ipad2 and the Xoom finish loading pages at pretty much the same time, even though the Ipad2 gave the impression of loading first.

As for battery life, YMMV. Anyway the Xoom has more pixels to work so that means more processing power required, I'm not surprised a couple of hours is shaved off.

And I've seen comparison videos of the same game being played on both Ipad2 and the Xoom, eg. Samurai Vengence and they both performed equally as well.

On paper the Ipad2 chip is better than the Tegra 2 but so far games play equally as well on both. And after all, Nvidia is a graphics card company, they can't go wrong there. So until a game comes up that really stresses the graphics chip, I'm going to refrain from commenting on the GPU debate.
[Xoom General] roebeet:
I'd be happy to do an AB test for everyone, but given that the iPad2 is on hiatus at the moment that seems a bit tough.

Was there really an iPad2 or was it just a mass hallucination for just a few hours on March 11th? Maybe we'll know for sure in about five weeks. ;)
[Xoom General] Eclair~:
If he meant the Epic he would've said the Epic. However it is true, the Hummingbird processor is currently one of the best in the mobile space. A dual-core Hummingbird may be better than a Tegra 2.
[Xoom General] dch921:
I think the whole tablet scene is looking a lot like the phone scene. The xoom is like the og droid. It was just the start. In another year or so android os will be the top tablet os and have be best hardware just like they do in the smarphone market.
[Xoom General] mobius999:
First off, yes, I did get childish. Sorry about that. Long day, couple drinks, I tend to regress at the keyboard,

I don't know jack about Anandtech honestly. Engaget popped out because I was there 1 min before XDA. I have at least 50 tech blogs/sites on RSS, and have never heard of Ana.

By the way, CNET just did a side by side of all the available tablets (china pads aside). Xoom came out #1 in web loading by a significant percentage. I hope you don't suggest we ignore THAT site as well.
[Xoom General] musashiken:
Here's an interesting A5 vs Tegra 2 article I found.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2381767,00.asp

I'd say it has some pretty interesting insights to the whole debate.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
No, CNET is reputable. I do suggest you give Anandtech a read. They are probably the most unbiased and give certainly the most exhaustive reviews on products that I have ever seen. Took me over an hour to read/watch their review of the iPad2. Don't get me wrong, I love Engadget, but their reviews piss me off. They are WAY to biased in favor of Apple.

As for the CNET test, yes the Xoom looked to be faster for those three websites. Here is what Anandtech did for page loading tests:

That was for the original Xoom review. For the iPad2 review, he expanded on it:
[Xoom General] mobius999:
Heh, that's the other reason I said Engadget. They love Apple so much, if they ever said something beat an Apple product I figured that would be set in stone like the 11th commandment.

Thanks for the tip on Anandtech. After some time spent on there looks good. Can't believe it's one of the oldest (and largest) tech sites out there and I knew nothing about it!
[Xoom General] musashiken:
Heh, I can't believe not many know about anandtech here. I guess not many here are PC enthusiasts? Anandtech is one of the few tech sites I go to for PC parts reviews and benchmarks for graphics cards, motherboards etc.

But then again, I only know it for PC hardware and I didn't really expect tablets to appear on their site. I stopped messing around with my self-assembled PC for quite some time so I stopped visiting such sites.

P.S. no prizes for guessing what steered me away from my PC :p
[Xoom General] mith500:
+1 on the AnandTech recommendation....I love reading their reviews.

Their reviews are unbiased and detailed.

You may have heard of dailytech.com, that site is anandtech news portal site.

Another alternative review site is Arstechnica.
[Xoom General] Eclair~:
I know there won't be, I was simply saying that since the Hummingbird seems so awesome and powerful in regards to GPU, a dual-core version of it would translate into being just as awesome x2 as well. Obviously I have no idea what I'm talking about, processors aren't exactly a field I'm really educated in. However, I'm assuming that Samsung knows what they are doing when it comes to the GPU. Since that is what the Hummingbird was praised for.
[Xoom General] pecosROB:
I thought the same thing too. Isn't it Xoom around 9-9.5 hrs and iPad 2 around 10-10.5 hours?

Exactly what I was thinking. If any bits of information was true (or believable), then Engadget would make SURE you know about it.

I can't believe no one here has heard of anantech either. It's a source that Engadget and Gizmodo actually uses to repost some of their original findings!

Arstechnica can make some epic ****ing reviews (i.e. lengthy). Holy ****.
[Xoom General] someone0:
AnandTech is a very technical site, so the review is rich and deep. Although sometime I use Tom's Hardware as a second opinion. Engadget is a gadget news site. So, I don't trust them for review, but still great to see a new gadget popup in there. And as far as Ars goes, It's a not exactly a review site, but it's articles are just ad rich and deep as Anandtech or DPreview(photography site, and I'm not affiliated, just free credit for great works they have done in the past). If Ars happened to review a product, then it's sure a great review but don't expect to go there to see bunch of reviews.
[Xoom General] mith500:
Agreed on the Dpreview...my main photography related site and the guys on the forum are very helpful.
[Xoom General] albundy2010:
Stupid android fanboys vs stupid apple fanboys.

This entire thread needs to be deleted.

Actually leave it up so we can always come back and lol at the people that don't know anadtech. Hell he is the one that publicly disclosed the iPhone signal dbm miscalculation/lie.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stayin100:
Had anyone ever done so? I can get a brand new fascinate a guy dropped and cracked the screen. He wants 50 bucks for it, and I found a screen for 90, is it that difficult?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crookshanks:
With an iPhone it's easy as pie. I can't imagine it's very hard with our phones.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superchunkwii:
Yeah, I've done similar on iPhone an DSLites... they're all easy and generally pretty cheap to replace.

I always just bought off of ebay and did the work myself.

Just find a youtube video and take your time. Its easy.

Here's the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV2PMwn1hns
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superchunkwii:
Also, considering you can buy off ebay without a contract in fully working condition for about $150 or so... I don't know if its a good deal to buy a phone for $50 then spend $100 on replacement parts.

Seems like he needs to drop the price to $20 to be worth it.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Madmax02:
Hi,

I have my X10 like 2 weeks and i just decide to flash it with a custom room.

But i have some probleme.

My wifi connection dont want to connect itself,i need to delete my network and readd to can connect.

And when i disable my 3G network with apndroid or with the widget power control and reenable it later like 5 min it dont work i need to restart my phone to have the 3g connection back.

Thanks for your help.

Sorry for my bad english,i am frensh
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pierre Duc:
why do french ppl always apologize for their english.. don't get me wrong though, you have all the right to apologize for your english ;)

Anyhoo, what baseband you got going on your x10?

To check, go to settings --> scroll all the way down to 'about the phone' --> then it should say Basebandversion *.*.**

thats the number we need..

because you're french, and its common you guys just like to translate everything, baseband will be named like: bande de base, or bande étroite, or something like that
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Madmax02:
its 2.1.54
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acmaaction:
please flash 2.1.58.

3g, gps, wifi very good.:)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whitezboon:
dude, go to 'Dev tools> bad behaviour>crash the system srever .......
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Madmax02:
where is Dev Tools?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pierre Duc:
Spare parts app (as far as i can remember its named like that in this ROM)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Madmax02:
I have Spare parts,but in the app nothing like bad behaviour>crash the system srever.

some reglage for font size,batterie info windows/transition animations...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pierre Duc:
There is probably a way to do it through Terminal Emulator.. but can't seem to find how..

(great help huh :o)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Madmax02:
Thx for your help.

You have any idea for the wifi?

When i typ su kill-server nothing happen.

however i cant post on the rom thread i need more post
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pierre Duc:
One more post, and you are allowed to post there.. so you want to talk about the weather? It's lovely ain't it?

Anyway, about the wifi (and the other problems), I recommend you switch to Cyanogen CM7.0 RC2 v009 Gingerbread 2.3.3. As long as don't care that you can't record HD video, this ROM is faster and more stable (when it comes to wifi/BT.. thats my opinion).

I had the same problem with wifi kept disconnecting. Haven't really had that issue anymore now im using cm7.

(don't forget to 'downgrade' your baseband by flashing the included .52 baseband)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Madmax02:
Why not if i have time this week end,i will flash my phone to CM7.

But can you tell me if the batterie will drain faster or not?

Actually i need to charge my phone everyday
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pierre Duc:
I abuse my phone when it comes to usage, but i manage with ease to make it 1 day, with normal usage, 2 days. But have to say, that i normally don't pay that much attention to battery drainage. I sleep every night, and so does my phone (usually in the charger :))
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Madmax02:
oki i sleep every night too :D

I probably update to CM7

Thx for your help
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GoPDemon:
what kind of wifi network? I used advanced wifi configurator
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Madmax02:
its my personnal network at home
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
3.21.11

Alternate Screenshots

6.14.11: 4.1 patch ss

3.21.11 Alternate Deskclocks

Clock 2: Clock 3:

Clock 4: Clock 5:

Themed Launcher2

Sexy Rose Mod:

since photobucket is a jerk here are some other sceenshots to tide me over:
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
Downloads

V4.1 Patch:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?uc4r43ao58b9lc3

V4.0 Full theme:

http://www.mediafire.com/?20kd6edwimsnas3 6.11.11

md5:

8B6A9518C72BD1B90E39F43091FD44AB

Non Acc Battery (no batt %) Patch:

http://www.mediafire.com/?om0i8pjm8ajkc9m 6.13.11 (flash AFTER full theme!)

md5:

CC767711C0EE47B4865A2397E7F87A70

Alternate Deskclock.apks CWR flash

(only 1 can be installed at a time, screenshots in post #2) *3.20.11

[URL="http://www.mediafire.com/?krla2k3ba3sa0at"]Clock 2[/URL] [URL="http://www.mediafire.com/?s11pcjocawsjwc7"]Clock 3[/URL] [URL="http://www.mediafire.com/?h5bzdgxtucow7p8"]Clock 4[/URL] [URL="http://www.mediafire.com/?qa4xecx77qeety3"]Clock 5[/URL]

Extras

:

HTC Wallpapers

LPP/ADW Ex Docks *3.21.11
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
Recommendations for completing the sense look:

(links to others work, not my own in any way)

Launchers:

Sense-Themed LPP

Sense-themed Regular ADW

Keyboards:

If keyboards force close on install, then go into system/app and reinstall with package installer!

Official Stock HTC IME KB (originally found here for warm 2.2)

Black HTC IME KB (same)

Widget Locker and Fancy Widget Pro Skins
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] imneveral0ne:
Theme looks awesome, gonna give it a try!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] cynikalJ:
The link to download takes me to transbluehoneycomb....
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
good catch :o, updated now
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] adrynalyne:
sexy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(is that 10 characters?)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] imneveral0ne:
looks pretty close to my evo :-p
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
thanks, thats the hope :)

there will be a version that mimics it more closely with white menus and white contacts etc....but will be very close to this one...(i prefer black menus)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] thatdudebutch:
Well done sir!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] TheMuffStuff:
This looks good, I hope this can get implemented into Dark Revenge soon. Not trying to promote apps, but HeLauncher gives 4 Sense docks that are an exact replica, looks great with Sense theme
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
good option for those out there looking for something close to sense :)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
thanks, ill have the updated version for dr by thursday :)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] tats_06:
Wow, this is H-O-T!!!! Is there acc batt? Love it! ;)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
Glad you like...it does have acc battery
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] bendbowden:
This pwns eb01/tw based themes.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] mbh87:
Downloading now, looks amazing.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] tats_06:
Nitsuj, I get stuck at boot animation....tried flashing 3 times....twice over my setup and 3rd over fresh install of 2.9.1 (after full wipe). What am I doing wrong?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] tmlhodge:
Idk what you did wrong, I gave it a go and had no problems. Did you wipe data, cache, and dalvik?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] TheMuffStuff:
I found a good Sense like LPP app -> http://www.4shared.com/file/W5XSANjU/LauncherProSenseUIv1503.htm

Also got the HTC keyboard working -> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=624416
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
yeah i link the working htc keyboard in the op
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] tyvallely:
Use Homsmack for the sense launcher.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] TheMuffStuff:
Ahh okay nits, I didnt see that. I tried the mirror and got force closes no matter what so I had to find another one and I got that one to work.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
op updated, non acc version (flash after full theme)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
yeah you have to install them manually..wont flash unfortunately
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
op updated with 4.1 patch
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] hecantbreathe:
Nicely done, love the new pull down!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
thanks :) (used up my 5 thanks button for the day already)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] dklemp:
Love the theme! but does anyone have a link to a green GB keyboard that will flash in CMW3??im not too big of a fan of the HTC keyboard and i switched from crysis revolution and the light blue keyboard doesnt go too well with the green.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
might find some good ones here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=931037

or here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=845162
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Glocjt:
Thanks for the theme, nitsuj! Loved it back when running SC, glad to have it for UKB now! :)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
youre certainly welcome :)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] sunder74:
Y U NO HAZ SENSE 3.0 WIDGETS? Lol just kidding man excellent work on this. Glad to see it brought current. Liking the attention to detail especially in the messaging app. Again great job.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] :
Great work! Nice looking theme. I apologize if I am out of place for asking this but will there be a version of this theme for Evil Fascination 3.6?

Sent from my fascinate
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] sunder74:
*slowly backs away from the computer in anticipation of cyber backlash. * lol...
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] :
Sorry nevermind. I dont know the whole scoop here. There must be a conflict idk about. Didnt mean to cause trouble. Love this theme though.

Sent from my fascinate
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
Yeah since im involved with comrom any themes I do would just be for that or other tsm roms for now...at some point we may do a theme engine or full build theme for cm7 but that's down the road
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] :
Ok. Thanks for the response.

Sent from my fascinate
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] yahsaves:
Can someone please check the task manager. Every time i use it I get a fc then a reboot. I'm not near a computer right now and just want to check if it's just me having the problem. I looking press the home key then press the task manager key then I get a few buzzes then reboot.thanks for thehelp.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] nitsuj17:
just checked it..works fine for me...logcat it if it persists