yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Epic 4G Android Development] terinfire:
Maybe a bad question -- but are they actually decompiling the code or just pulling apart the config/build of it? Also a software developer, I know it may be bad practice to pull their code apart and look at it, but unless it's tightly coupled with another system, shouldn't it all work just the same? Or is it an incomplete decompile with stuff potentially obfuscated?

Sorry, not an Android developer/Cyanogen ninja, so I know this may be a horribly stupid question. If anyone else knows, that'd be nice. Though, I'm tempted to download the latest source of SPH-D700 from Samsung's open source and taking a look to see if I can make sense of anything...
[Epic 4G Android Development] lynyrd65:
You're the best, Thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
You guys are honestly just trolling. Quit asking the guy for ETA and such. Let the man work and quit giving him crap. nullghost, keep doing what you're doing. I personally cannot wait for the ROM and if you can really bring it to us, that'd make you legit the best Epic 4G Developer. Evar.

I do it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] voidxbeast:
there must be some progress you should put an update post or somthing so we know what it is at. considering it has been awhile
[Epic 4G Android Development] deano0714:
Will the .35 kernel have the ability to UV and OC since you guys built it?
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Yeh, its called check out their github. Look a few posts back for the link.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Coriolis3ffect:
As far as posting updates of sorts, there have been a few posts every now and again... along with the github links.
[Epic 4G Android Development] 063_XOBX:
You're not entitled to updates. If you made the slightest effort you could find them on their Github while leaving the team to do their work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] rufflez2010:
Or their twitter, which is how I found out.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Do u have there twitter link by any chance?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ninz0rz:
@TeamEpicCM7

I see all these post about people complaining about no updates... since you guys have so much time to complain about no progress being made why don't you take that time and learn to code and compile your own rom?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Thanks for the twitter name. But I'm not one of those people complaning about updates. I have been waiting patiently for this. When they are ready they will release something for us.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ninz0rz:
lol that wasn't directed towards you, it was directed at all the other people complaining.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Lol OK haha
[Epic 4G Android Development] pjames:
i tried reading the github and its like a foreign language to me. im just gonna wait til they post updates here lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] epic4GEE:
Lol......same here......can I get a 'facepalm'
[Epic 4G Android Development] nullghost:
It depends on what they're doing. Themers will just extract the files from the applications and frameworks, and change images. Other modifications (Like changing the lockscreen type) are done by using tools to turn the dalvik bytecode inside those applications and frameworks into something slightly readable (albeit partially obfuscated and difficult to comprehend), making the necessary changes, and compiling it back into bytecode. Kernel developers just modify some source files in the kernel, usually nothing major, and compile just the kernel from source.

CyanogenMod, AOSP (real aosp, not a cyanogenmod kang without cyanogenmod-specific stuff, or a stock rom with aosp apps), and possibly MIUI are the only real ROMs you'll find built from source by end users like us.

Hope that clears stuff up a bit.

Of course. Where there's code to control the clock speed and voltage, there's always the potential of customizing it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bender_123:
Thanks for the update! My wife has been jealous of the cm7 on my nexus, and she is not a tech person. Cant wait to get her hooked up with some cm goodness.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jeffyv2:
I was getting scared I couldnt find this thread lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] lviv73:
I know that I can check cm7 status on github but I have no idea where to look for changes on github(i tried),all I see is some repos,etc.I have lil idea on what all that linux sht means on github.

Can someone make a thread on cm7 change log and maintain it at least once a week,so we "simpler" folks can know what progress is being made.

Or if not then ,an someone post a link for cm7 github with changelog(not cm7 github link but cm7 changelog link).

Thanx in advance.
[Epic 4G Android Development] danherbert:
Maintaining a changlog separate from github would take a lot of time. This project is done in devs' free time which is already limited as it is. If you can't take the time to learn how to use github, all you need to know for now is in the OP. All other progress will be publically announced in the OP when there's news to share.

Have patience.
[Epic 4G Android Development] lynyrd65:
Here

https://github.com/EpicCM/android_kernel_samsung_aries/commits/teamhacksung-merge

Here

https://github.com/EpicCM/android/commits/teamhacksung-merge

and Here

https://github.com/EpicCM/android_device_samsung_epic/commits/teamhacksung-merge

that's most of them

Anyone want an idea of how much code these guys churn out?

look here https://github.com/EpicCM/android_k...mmit/2e2474496f78ee191e9dc64ed8f6757be381b72d
[Epic 4G Android Development] WrlsFanatic:
What the hell is going on here? This is Cyanogen. The first rule of Cyanogen: there are no ETAs! You don't need to know what's going on. Show some freaking patience! They're working on it and it will be done when it's done, if ever. That's it. Stop whining like children.

Nobody has time to enter a list of changes. If they did, they'd already be posting here. You talk like you're demanding things when you are owed nothing. Kudos for trying to do it yourself, but tough sh-t, it didn't work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] >MR.T:
200 pages of the above post.
[Epic 4G Android Development] silver03wrx:
+1.........
[Epic 4G Android Development] bender beerman:
?

sounds like good advice, both ways...
[Epic 4G Android Development] pjames:
i know eta's are a no-no(not asking for an eta) but how about posting something normal users can understand. i know working on this is labor intensive but normal users like myself would appreciate it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] lviv73:
Thats exactly what I was saying.I just wanted to know if there was a changelog so I could see what was fixed and see if it was something I could use as my daily rom.

Nobody was askin for eta but these clowns started flippin for no damn reason,lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
These people do have lives..&& this is apparently some hard stuff to develope. So just be patient. Besides, this **** is going to be blown out the water when ginger is fully functional. Dueces.
[Epic 4G Android Development] lynyrd65:
Development moves quickly and it's not even easy for me to understand. If you had read my posts or even put an ounce of effort into trying to navigate the github site you would have found what you're looking for. Nullghost posts here when something major happens, so if nothing on github makes sense to you, wait until he posts and don't ask him to post more than he already does. Having users regularly waste your time is a good way to lose a dev and the Lord knows we don't need that!

Be patient!

Edit: here is a guide

How to use github to see progress for dumbies

Step 1. Go to this address https://github.com/EpicCM

Step 2. Look for the repositories, They are grouped into different smaller projects such as newer kernels and merges.

Step 3. Looking here find the most recently updated repository and click the link as illustrated

Step 4. Click on "commits" as illustrated AFTER completing step 3

Step 5. Look at the progress

Step 6. Repeat steps 3 through 6 for each repository you want to look at

Edit 2:

Step 7. Recognize that you're not a dummy if you don't understand what is written on the page :p

Step 8. Be appreciative for the crazy amount of work our devs put into this
[Epic 4G Android Development] epic4GEE:
To the above post......thanks!!!

It still looks like greek to me....lol..... maybe some day I will make it to dummy status:D
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Lol very nice.

One thing that should be understood is that these guys are constantly changing and tweaking things. You have to with this sort of project, since its basically just a lot of experimentation to see if something works and whether or not it breaks something else. So, they make a commit that "fixes" something, but they very well may "unfix" it later to try something different.

The point is, any kind of changelog of the progress on end user features (ie, gps working/not working) would be useless because it would be constantly changing. The only changelog that would be of any use is one that documents what code they're trying in order to fix or incorporate some things....which is exactly what github is. Does that make sense to everyone?

So, let's stop bumping this thread for idle and useless banter (which I apologize for doing with this post) and leave it for real questions or updates.
[Epic 4G Android Development] lviv73:
Thanx thats what I was looking for but still have no Idea what all those improvemens/fixes mean(Victory split,etc),lol.

I will just have to wait untill they post changes on here in simple english.
[Epic 4G Android Development] hayzooos:
Let's put it this way. You guys say you want updates, but don't understand what you're looking at with the github, right? Maybe this will somehow relate to what it's like:

Let's relate it building cars. Most people don't know all the ins and outs (I don't) but most people understand the basics, so I'll roll with this:

Creating a ROM (Syndicate, Bonsai, Midnight, etc.) is like getting a car delivered to your door, right from the dealer. You put in some more HP, you tweak the exhaust, you throw on new dubs to make it look all cool. Throw some 12" subs in the back, why? Does it help, not really, just sounds cool. Might as well take out the backseat for weight reduction to make it faster (bloatware on our phones). Is it still the same thing you got from the dealer? Yup, pretty much anyway, just with your own custom tweaks to your liking.

What is it like building CM7? Let's put it like this...it's not even close to having a catalog of parts to build your own car. It's more like having a 100,000 cubic foot block of metal. You want a screw? Make it yourself. A bolt for that engine part? Cut it out of that big hunk you have.

Here's what I'm getting at...why would you want to know when a single wingnut for something you'll never see gets created? That's what you see at github. You're looking for 'hey, we got the motor built, but it's not quite running yet' or 'hey, we found some wheels that actually fit the rims'. You know, the big things.

Guess what...that's EXACTLY what nullghost posts here. 'Hey, GPS is working'. 'Hey, we can make calls'. (For the record, I cannot remember if GPS is working, I don't think it is, it was just an example.)

If you don't see any posts from him, then nothing 'big' has happened. Again, building a car out of a big block of metal, not ordering it piece by piece, which most people couldn't do anyway. Why does it 'take so long'? I dunno, how long do you think it would take you to create a fully functioning car when you have to build, literally each piece, by hand all while having a full-time job, and you do this in your spare time? Hopefully that helps.
[Epic 4G Android Development] gmorf33:
good analogy :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] bender_123:
What is this GitHug you are talking about? It sounds like someplace all the impatient people can go to feel loved...

They see me trollin'...they hatin'...
[Epic 4G Android Development] hayzooos:
HAHAHA, good catch. I'll fix it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] othan1:
So...that's a lot of words to read...can you just give me video of all the minutia including the calorie count of the beverages you all are consuming whilst programming this?

I'd prefer cartoon form but will accept a puppet show as well.

All kidding aside, excellent information you just posted.
[Epic 4G Android Development] WrlsFanatic:
This is exactly my point and why I'm so annoyed.

Here is my guide for how you all can know when this is updated:

1) Install Firefox or Chrome

2) Browse to the first page of this forum

3) Right-click on the tab and choose "Pin as App Tab"

4) Every day, open that browser, click on that app tab, and hit F5

5) If the title of this thread has changed from "... Alpha 4..." then VIOLA! THERE IS AN UPDATE!

That is all you need to know or should ask to know. When Wimax came to the EVO - a HUGE deal - we saw a screenshot one day of it functioning, then a few days later, they released a beta, and it took a month or so of several betas before it was fully functioning. That's exactly what I did there: open the browser, refresh the tab, see if there is a new version. If not, wait until tomorrow. Just like he said, the devs will post what they can. It's annoying to check the Epic dev screen and see this on the first page every day thinking there has been progress, only to see that everyone is just complaining about wanting updates.

This is my last post on this subject as I realize I'm contributing to the problem. From here on out, if you're not commenting directly on progress from a dev, don't post. I'll be doing the same.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Wizard Knight:
just re-flashed alpha 4 for the fun of it and my sd card wouldn't mount, but it would before. I had orginally been on alpha 3 then flashed 4 without wipe and my sd card worked that way.

I know a lot of people have been irked by the sd card not mounting and thought they may want to try that

keep up the good work, until beta, I'll see you on the other side of the new supernova

long live the devs!
[Epic 4G Android Development] rocket321:
Everytime there is an update that "normal people" would understand, it IS posted here. If one update every few weeks isn't enough then you need to learn to read the github code for more updates.
[Epic 4G Android Development] zman519:
This is NOT an eta q. Hehe

1)Will/does this rom have wifi tether is it like mobile ap from i9000 on di18 that its in the wireless settings?

2)Does CyanogenMod on there phones work like that?

I hope that has not already been answerd, I'm on xda app and there is NO a search thread

Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
Correct me if I'm wrong but, assuming by the GitHub posts, we're close to having a ROM.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Censura_Umbra:
So will the next release continue to be based on their current efforts? Or will they upgrade to EE03?

I am wondering because I found that EE03 is much faster than CM7 and CM7's 2.3 built out of 2.2 makes it so apps like Netflix can't work on it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] drizek:
No. Cm has nothing to do with Samsungs rom.
[Epic 4G Android Development] silver03wrx:
EE03 is not even close too half as fast as cm7. Cm7 is much faster.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Agreed cm7 is one of the fastest and smoothes rom that will ever be release on any phone
[Epic 4G Android Development] deano0714:
What... read the cyanogen wiki, its biult from scratch is AOSP not based on samsung/sprints rom at all the only thing that is useful there is the modem hope you understand.
[Epic 4G Android Development] silver03wrx:
Yes homie that's the entire basis of cm7 . Its ground up. Not based off of sprint roms or it would never be official. And yes you can use the ee03 modem
[Epic 4G Android Development] numberoneoppa:
Is this in collaboration with CMSGSTeam?
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
A simple build.prop tweaking will get netflix to work....
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Do you use this rom with ee03 modem my man? How well does it run my man? Is it worth heflash my man? Holla back lemme know my man
[Epic 4G Android Development] nullghost:
CMSGSTeam is synonymous with TeamHacksung. I just tend to call them hacksung because that's their new repository's name. Their original repository was much of the same of what we were doing (read: hacked up). But their new repository is very clean and CM-Compliant, so our recent changes are based on their sources.

It's taking us a bit longer because there are thousands of lines of code to double-check before this kernel will fully boot. While we have mostly the same hardware as other SGS devices, there are a few key differences. We're CDMA, we have 4G, we have a keyboard, and we have a front-facing camera. A lot of pins are in different places as well, to the point that teamhacksung has asked us to make kernel changes in our own directory (Aries-Victory). So that's why you're seeing the "Victory split" commits.

It'll happen, we just need our lives to slow down a bit. :P
[Epic 4G Android Development] Art2Fly:
Really? Thousands of lines of code!? OH MY GOD! did you put in comments anywhere, or is the code dirty?
[Epic 4G Android Development] numberoneoppa:
Thank you for the very detailed response. I was told by some of the guys in the CMSGS irc that you guys were playing catch-up so I assumed but wasn't sure of the affiliation.

Good luck, you're doing splendidly!
[Epic 4G Android Development] sarumont:
I'm sure there are plenty of comments - try grepping for f*** ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] NEXUS 4G:
I invoke 3 day weekends effective immediately... U can thank me later...

Seriously tho, Just stopping by to tell the epic cm7 team thx for all their hard work... Looking forward to this whenever you guys are finished perfecting it
[Epic 4G Android Development] nbutala:
wifi

CM7 is running great, but my wifi wont find any networks when its turned on. Just scans. Any ideas?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Wizard Knight:
I had this problem where it scans, doesn't find anything, and closes. It happened when I left the wifi on on the rom I was using, rebooted into CWM and flashed CM7.

Fix: I restored my backup, made sure wifi connected (if it doesn't, you may need to Odin), then TURNED WIFI OFF, then flashed CM7 and it worked like a champ

hope this helps!
[Epic 4G Android Development] amirite:
I had that problem too, just toggle WiFi a few times until it works. Usually took 3-4 tries for me.
[Epic 4G Android Development] sauron0101:
Anybody else experiencing strange popping noises from the speaker? It is a minor issue, but worth noting.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jeffyv2:
Cm7 is my only hope for the epic....
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
What bugs me is....seeing other cyanogen teams releasing completed roms for different phones :(.....our devs are awsome and well respected. Just wish they'd all take a vacation from life and get this thing up and poppin :p
[Epic 4G Android Development] silver03wrx:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1103012. Deamon87 is leaving the epic community
[Epic 4G Android Development] silver03wrx:
He did a lot of great things for our epics. And was part of the team working on cm7 sad too see him go.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Yea. Time to go poaching devs. We definitely need more teams.
[Epic 4G Android Development] billyp707:
Yes! Blows.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
:( :(

So what does this mean for the cm team?
[Epic 4G Android Development] silver03wrx:
Good question. I'm woundering the same thing. I'm sure the other guys are still hard at work and doing a great job
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
He was only one developer. A great one, but the CM team has MANY great ones. Nullghost and Deca just to name two. CM for the Epic won't die :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] silver03wrx:
That's good and comforting too knw. Thanks for informing us. And we apreciate the entire cm7 team
[Epic 4G Android Development] NEXUS 4G:
-10 :(
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
Our phone isn't using the hw acceleration properly. The screen off animation pretty much is the deciding point in whether your hw is accelerated properly. So I'm sure within a few days or so or whenever we'll have the animation, but right not it's just amazing to have this running on our phones.

Sent From my CyanogenEpicMod 7G
[Epic 4G Android Development] othan1:
Curious about a couple of questions so I can report anything accurately and not inject useless information.

I don't have 4G here so that's not even a consideration (you've already said it will never be supported) but I'm wondering what I should expect as far as 3G or Wi-Fi speeds. Should I be getting the same data transfer rates as I did before?

Another item I'd like to ask is that from a end user standpoint, should we note this to be a bit slower (screen transitions, navigation, application load time, etc.) than EB13?

Just information based on the developer build would be sufficient as I'm not installing anything that hasn't been provided in this thread. I want to keep the environment consistently reproducible.
[Epic 4G Android Development] hussmanne:
Titanium Backup

I'm loving this rom!

BTW- is anyone else having problems restoring apps using Titanium Backup. I'm trying to restore Apps w/ no data, but it seems to churn through the list without actually doing anything. I've tried switching to interactive processing etc. to no avail.

-Hussein
[Epic 4G Android Development] NEXUS 4G:
Will the samsung video editor app work with this. I'm getting an "application not installed" message
[Epic 4G Android Development] tony45x220:
What kind of Linpack, Quadrant, RL Benchmark, and Smartbench 2010 & 2011 scores are people gttin I'm surpried I haven't seen more numbers with performance testing?

sent from my rooted, suited & booted Epic 4G know dat
[Epic 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
where r u going
[Epic 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
so how do u freeze the drm with Titanium Backup and wheres is the drm even at
[Epic 4G Android Development] othan1:
Personally, I don't put much stock in those but here are mine:

Linpack: 13.975

Smartbench 2011: 1020/2338
[Epic 4G Android Development] K@ng2011:
Screen Shots Please

Dameon can you be so kind as to offer screen shots?
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
There are screen shots in the general section until he posts some.

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
I took some earlier in the thread too

Sent from a truly Epic phone running CM7 with the XDA premium app ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] othan1:
TWS bug does not appear to infect this build. After several reboots, it still has not presented.

Sorry to bother, too, but do you have a bug reporting tool or an area dedicated to discussing this other than this thread? I don't want to clutter things up too badly and I don't use twitter.

I work in QA and would like to report issues a bit more efficiently so if you have any bug reporting guidelines or SOPs, I'd love to help.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Finishure:
I just wanted to say thank to the developers for there hard time consuming work. You guys saved us from samsung!!

just curious if any one is having the same issue I'm having with making and receiving calls I can only hear the person if I turn speaker phone on and off real quick
[Epic 4G Android Development] ecooce:
*Bug*... Tried to play a video from sdcard,music player crashes,lol... When clicking on the green player icon in app drawer,you see music player options at top,Artist/album etc... but the videos on sdcard are below,click on any and music played crashes.
[Epic 4G Android Development] biscojams:
I believe theres a bug report thread in the general forum
[Epic 4G Android Development] p3dr0maz:
This is actually an old bug that I first noticed when I upgraded from DI18 to the DK28 version of Samsung's 2.2 unofficial release. After being on EB13 I stopped noticing it. Maybe I've just been lucky or I just don't use my phone a lot.

If anyone has noticed this on EB13 or has more information let us know.

It's annoying yeah.