yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire Android Development] patchseven:
Your recovery should remain intact, it is not linked to the hboot in any way.... Remember that even with a stock hboot you could still change recoveries (clockwork 2.5.. 3.0.., amonra etc.) at will, the same goes when you are using a modified hboot (CM7 or alpharev etc.).

edit: Your comment about first getting a fast sd card is a little confusing... you are aware that with the data++ layout your sd card will be accessed as little as possible.... The ext partition on it basically acts as a big storage dump for the .apk and .jar files to sit in. Once these files have been loaded into the dalvik cache (which now runs using up 100+mb on the phones internal /data partition on the nand) they are rarely accessed of the sd card.
[Desire Android Development] omniwolf:
having said that, even if you have a fast SD card, i think you'll still notice an improvement - i have a class 10 and i really think it's a smoother ROM.

Also, if you find your notification bar seems to be laggy when you try and pull it down, i highly recommend you get rid of the recent apps feature from it. instructions are HERE, but it basically gets you to remove "enableRecentApps" from your notification_config.txt file in the /system/customize/ directory.
[Desire Android Development] Chartist:
Thanks to both of you. I understood common files would be in memory but I hadn't appreciated how little the sd would be used. I might as well get a fast sd as I am getting a bigger one anyway.

I also take it that there would be no problem reflashing a stock hboot and stock rom in the unlikely event I ever needed to return the phone because I'm not sure how happy HTC would be with a new partition table?

Again, thanks for such full and clear answers.
[Desire Android Development] nbicho:
That's right, you can always revert to the stock hboot flashing a stock RUU or to a modified partition table with the stock dimensions if you want to stay s-off, using one from here
[Desire Android Development] Chartist:
The bottlenecks of small memory is the Desire's greatest weakness and this is a really creative and radical solution going far beyond normal caching tweaks. Can't wait to try it out when the new sd arrives.

Thanks for all the really helpful advice.
[Desire Android Development] baadnewz:
24.03 kernel update, check 1st post for details.

as always kernel by snq-, (you should know this by know)
[Desire Android Development] d1n0x:
How about providing a flashable stock DHD framework in the first post? Just my 2 cents :D
[Desire Android Development] baadnewz:
How about extracting it yourself from a2sd version. If you are an advanced user you should know this by now
[Desire Android Development] PseudoReal:
is anybody having issues with the new kernel? I have read in a German forum, that some people had bootloops after flashing the latest one!
[Desire Android Development] florineck:
no issues at all.
[Desire Android Development] golightlygl:
I've taken the plunge

I've taken the plunge, S-Offed my phone and installed the ROM. It's still going through the final settling down but I wanted to thank not only Baadnewz and the AlphaRev team, but also Magresha for his excellent page on the Wiki relating to this ROM. Although I think I'm relatively "sophisticated", I certainly appreciated the hand holding.

I look forward to playing the ROMm and contributing to this Wiki page as well.

Well done and thank you all.
[Desire Android Development] joningi:
No, no problems at all for me. Well I actually S-OFFed my phone and then flashed the ROM-Booted-Flashed Kernel.

But you should remember to nandroid each time you flash something so you can wipe everything and restore if things go wrong..

Amen to that! Thumbs up! I just S-OFFed with the Virtual box method and installed this ROM, it's amazing!
[Desire Android Development] xhayne:
Encounter wifi error after flashing the new kernel...
[Desire Android Development] sylaan:
If you previously applied a wifi patch which is not compatible with the new kernel, then sure, you will have problems.
[Desire Android Development] xhayne:
But I didnt apply any wifi patch, just the ROM and then the new kernel update...But however, if gives a fully wipe and flashed the ROM plus the new kernel at the same time...the wifi error does not exist~:confused:
[Desire Android Development] sylaan:
Well, nobody here is psychic. Next time it happens run a logcat and see what kind of error messages you see. Then we'll all know.

I personally never had any kind of issues and I flashed kernels quite a few times on top of installed ROMs, never had a problem.
[Desire Android Development] *child:
Seems like I'm the only one having performance issues with this ROM (24.03 update). This ROM performs amazingly for about a day or two before slowing down with Rosie crashes to an almost unusable state, until I restart the phone and performance returns. Battery performance is also lower (when compared to InsertCoinHD 1.9.5 from which I upgraded). At the end of an average day's use, I have 15% battery left, compared to about 50% with 1.9.5.

I've formatted my 16GB C6 SD card (FAT32 + 1GB EXT4) and installed this ROM twice. What am I doing wrong?
[Desire Android Development] tinker2000:
I have to say I'm quite impressed with this after I took the plunge and updated from 2.0.0 A2SD version (with SUB501 kernel and swap). There are noticeable improvements, especially the way it restores apps and the market.

Benchmarking with quadrant advanced seems to be about the same with my class 4 sd card and I have experienced no slowdowns as yet.

Thanks Baadnewz :)
[Desire Android Development] Misiek_ud:
I didn't like HD roms because of performance, but this one is blazing fast!! Thanks for your work. ;)

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire Android Development] sylaan:
You could start doing some troubleshooting, see what apps are running in the background, see what is using the battery (With SpareParts or the like), look at the logcat every now and then while you use the phone (adb logcat), see if there is anything out of the ordinary, download Autostarts and disable the apps which dont need to run on certain events, and so on.
[Desire Android Development] Orka82:
Can I just flash the new kernel as usual when using Data++ v03?

Edit: Never mind. ;)
[Desire Android Development] daffie:
If anyone is interested in a Lite version of this very fast rom, I uploaded it to my Dropbox. Removed Rosie, all htc widgets, twitter, facebook, friendstream, laputa, and much more. Included LauncherPro to replace Sense.

The Lite version of v3 rom :

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6404779/InsertCoinDATAplusplusv03 Daffie Lite.zip

Txt file of what is removed from the original rom :

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6404779/InsertCoinDATAplusplusv03 Daffie Lite.txt
[Desire Android Development] magesha:
Glad it was of help. There are still many mistakes/lapses which could really use your help. Thanks!

Thanks Daffie! Added it to the wiki.
[Desire Android Development] ckhacks:
Hey baadnews,

thanks for your great work.

I really would like to try this rom, just one question as you mentioned you uploaded an odexed version: is the latest version odexed or deodexed? Thanks for your reply!
[Desire Android Development] sylaan:
If you would actually go to the Download folder at http://baadnewz.lcdc.sk/InsertCoinDATAplusplus/ you would see there is the normal deodexed version and also a odexed version.
[Desire Android Development] ckhacks:
OK. Thanks for your quick reply.

I actually did but my phone doesn't show the complete filename, so i couldn't check this!
[Desire Android Development] sylaan:
Here is the whole URL: http://baadnewz.lcdc.sk/InsertCoinDATAplusplus/InsertCoinDATAplusplusv01odexed.zip
[Desire Android Development] ckhacks:
OK. Thx! I didn't see the whole filename so that's why i asked. Thx for your help!
[Desire Android Development] lvnatic:
Guys, is the bravo hboot also compatible with the other Sense ROMs as well? I'm interested in leedroid particularly. I want a 100% sure answer as I am pretty scared to flash these hboots, I know they are risky and I want to know I'll stick with it.

Also, can odexed ROMs be themed via UOT or it doesn't matter? Do I still need to manually push the framework via adb or it's been fixed? And 1 last question, do I still need to use A2SD scripts or I will have enough memory for say, 110 apps?
[Desire Android Development] mobilio:
May I know if this storage allocation is normal?
[Desire Android Development] daspalme:
looks normal for me :-)

or what did you expect?
[Desire Android Development] Odinbear:
To Baadnewz, Thanks For the Great Roms..

Cheers...

As promised..

7M7465891H643354J.
[Desire Android Development] ziggy1001:
Please do some reading, ask sensible coherent questions and post in the right thread

"bravo hboot" do you mean the stock partition that has sense on it?

"I'm interested in leedroid particularly" so why post here?

"Also, can odexed ROMs be themed via UOT or it doesn't matter" asked and answered already

"enough memory for say, 110 apps" is that 60Mb or 500Mb space you need!!! how would we know:rolleyes:
[Desire Android Development] baadnewz:
a bit slow but I was busy, snq- updated the kernel yesterday. check 1st post for link and changelog

Credits Snq-, original link http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13432479/bravo-kernel/index.html
[Desire Android Development] westernmg:
Flashed the newest 2.6.32.36 kernel and my mobile-data worked only in 2G mode.

Flashed back the kernel-bravo-2.6.32.35-insertcoin-110324.zip and 3G works again....
[Desire Android Development] baadnewz:
Strange, i've just tested, it was on 3g after disabling the wifi, force the phone to.work on 3g only. See if that works
[Desire Android Development] Orka82:
3G works here (H-icon).

From 100% down to 15% in 12h with the newest kernel.
[Desire Android Development] MrLuje:
Same here, works fine :)
[Desire Android Development] davebugyi:
One more for working 3G :)
[Desire Android Development] mobilio:
I suppose the internal showing 130MB...
[Desire Android Development] mobilio:
3G, WiFi, all works fine :)
[Desire Android Development] kecinzer:
Hi baadnewz,

I do some tests and I'm wondering about how to set in ROM (or Vending.apk) to Market download apps to /mnt/sdcard/download instead of /cache.

Can you please help?
[Desire Android Development] baadnewz:
you need to unpack the boot.img, and edit init.rc, then repack and flash the new boot.img

Add under # setup the global environment

export DOWNLOAD_CACHE /mnt/sdcard/download

but this rom already does that, but it doesn't use sdcard, it uses ram to store temp market downloads then after install it is deleted
[Desire Android Development] hakanito:
Hi guys..how can i solve explorer problem?

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[Desire Android Development] pexon:
explorer = what?

problem = what?
[Desire Android Development] hakanito:
Internet explorer problem...when i open a page the phone frezee and i have to reboot the phone?

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[Desire Android Development] kecinzer:
Thanks a lot of this.

In past I had ROM with this works, but after I upgraded Market, download start to locate at /cache. That is weird.
[Desire Android Development] westernmg:
Flashed the Kernel once more and my 3G is working fine now....:eek:

Confused, but happy :D

Thank you for this ROM.

I never had one ROM for longer than one Week on my Phone, this one lets me forget the usage of ADB and Recovery :o
[Desire Android Development] PseudoReal:
AdFree

Hi guys,

searched this thread, but did not find any comment.

Does AdFree work for anybody? It does recognize new hosts once in a while, but I do still have Ads in Apps.

Thanks
[Desire Android Development] hakanito:
Hi guys...can i use free memory method of version 2.0 aps2sd in this rom.?

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[Desire Android Development] MasterBratac:
First page: "Rom is the same as InsertCoin 2.0.0 A2SD+"

So if you want to use the classic a2sd method, simply use 2.0.0 version of the rom ...
[Desire Android Development] ivicask:
Today had first complete battery drain over night, from 60%-> dead phone in morning. I'm using task killer and there was no strange, or badly writen apps who would randomly drain battery. Also built in power saver turns off all data/wifi/sync at 30%.

And another thing about HD roms in general. My friend got Desire and flashed one of stock 2.29 ROMS, and i did compare to this one.

Browser is much smoother, and latest flash 10.2 runs so smoooth! While on this roms even 10.1 lags, and 10.2 kills the phone.

Anyways, hoping that Ginger+new sense ports gona get fixed soon, and not gona have this problems.
[Desire Android Development] Alex-V:
from 60 % -> 0% over night...sorry but there is something wrong...maybe with third party apps or with your flash...never have this...in the begging of hd roms i have a batt drain to...but not so much...now with all the new bases..roms and kernels...i have the same result in classic ( not hd) and new sense hd roms...

10.2 kills the phone..i have 10.2 running...no problems here...i can see youtube videos and also things in explorer that are for flash

with kind regards...Alex
[Desire Android Development] sylaan:
I agree, I never saw that happening with my phone. There must be some badly behaving app on your phone.
[Desire Android Development] ivicask:
As i told you, i NEVER had this prob, and i cannot be "bad app" as i use task manager to kill all apps except sense. This just randomly happend today.

As for adobe flash.

Try opening

http://webcafe.net.hr/forwarduse/video/inner.html?select=201103300008503

And try to play video on it, try to doubble tap zoom it over screen, and see how it goes.

This is just some random site where i like to watch videos. This lags and freezes entire browser so much.

I tryed this on clean rom flash and just flash player installed from marked, how can i do anything wrong?
[Desire Android Development] sylaan:
There are a lot of apps which hook into certain events in the Android system which just restart themselves, just download Autostarts and have a look at the various events. You killing them with your TaskKiller make them restart, causing unnecessary activity which reduces your battery life.
[Desire Android Development] ckhacks:
But the flash player ain't a problem with the rom. I heard from a lot of people that the update ain't working on their phone.

Just delete flash and install the old version!
[Desire Android Development] hakanito:
I didnt ask that..heyy dude read it again without drink any alcohol ..

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[Desire Android Development] hakanito:
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[Desire Android Development] ivicask:
I just wana say, that flash 10.1 in general runs kinda bad on DHD roms.

10.2 kills it even more.

Stock roms runs 10.1 smooth

Stock rom with 10.2 update runs even better

So this obviously has something to do with bad porting, some libs or whatever is not very optimized for our phones.
[Desire Android Development] ckhacks:
Oh thx for your advise, i really need stop drinking so much and trolling around random sites, wasting my time giving useless advises to people i don't know.

Oh sorry, i just found out that i was not talking to you. My mind must be totally messed up!
[Desire Android Development] MasterBratac:
OK reading it again:

You would like to know if you could use the legacy a2sd method of the 2.0.0 ROM (or any other app2sd rom) within the DATA++ version?

If it´s this what you would like to know:

It makes no sense at all because this DATA++ version

is

the 2.0.0 without the legacy a2sd.

If it´s anything other you would like to know, so please describe a bit more what you would like to do ...
[Desire Android Development] ziggy1001:
That video plays fine for me with Flash 10.2

"I tryed this on clean rom flash and just flash player installed from marked, how can i do anything wrong?"

It's not a case of "you" doing anything wrong, from years of installing OS's on thousands of PC's i know that whilst 99% of the time the install goes fine every now and then it just craps out and the only way to fix it is to wipe and re-install, the one thing i don't do is waste hours trying to fix a bad install
[Desire Android Development] ivicask:
From your signature i see your using CM7? Or you using this DHD rom?

Because as i wrote, flash 10.2 works fine, but NOT on DHD roms.

And i just reflashed my phone. Installed flash 10.2, opend that video. Entire broswer strated laging, and after 20 sec browser crashed, and HTC sense reloaded, and entire phone strated laging.

Gona try using SETcpu to clock phone and change governor if that makes difference...

Edit:Tryed MAX overclock, and perfomance governor, it managed to last about 5 sec more, than all browser/sense crashed. :/
[Desire Android Development] mr.stylo:
The same thing on my Desire. I just deleted the 10.2 and reinstalled 10.1, and all is fine again.
[Desire Android Development] ziggy1001:
Ignore my sig i can't be arsed updating it every time i try a new rom

Yes obviously i'm using this rom as i would not have made that observation if i wasn't using it;)

Did you do a full wipe and format?
[Desire Android Development] ivicask:
Yes...full wipe..And as you can see im not only one with the same prob.

Just a question for you.

You actually opend that video in Flash? Inisde of browser?

Or you opend it inside youtoube app, or your have turned ON mobile browsing, so your actually opening it in HTML5?
[Desire Android Development] ilemur:
Sorry if this is wront thread. I am using a RCMix 3.0.1 Rom and experiencing a lot of hang-ups e.t.c. Somewhere i recall 've read that flashing a different kernel will fix it up for me so i wonder if i can flash kernel-bravo-2.6.32.36-insertcoin-110327.zip? :)
[Desire Android Development] sylaan:
It should work.
[Desire Android Development] ziggy1001:
I was messing around with flash and installed an earlier version which didn't seem to work so well i then re-installed Flash 10.2 and both on the site you gave the link for and the BBC site i can view videos in the browser on mobile data connection
[Desire Android Development] ivicask:
Than i would like to ask a favor, so i can test something.

Can you make me a titanium backup of whatever flash you curently have on your phone, and upload me just that?

I would be very grateful!
[Desire Android Development] ziggy1001:
Ok this is the 2 files from my Titanium folder bear in mind that originally i couldn't play vids in browser with my version of Flash 10.2 which was a titanium restore but once i had tried an earlier version then re-installed 10.2 from the market it worked fine so if this doesn't work i suggest deleting Flash and re-downloading from the market the latest version
[Desire Android Development] hakanito:
I asked for free up memory because there are some programs use a lot of memory ,like vital player..so i d like to know if i use this method can i use clean memory ? I m not an expert so hope u understand me...i congrulate u for great job.. i try to learn and hope u understand my questions...have a good night ..and thanx for your help

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[Desire Android Development] daspalme:
if you mean this method: http://www.baadnwz.eu/2011/02/free-some-space-on-phones-memory.html -> yes it works well....i did it 2 days ago
[Desire Android Development] ziggy1001:
Apologies if this is a dumb question but i don't like the clicking and beeping noises the camera and video make when you use them now normally i can simply replace camera_click.ogg & VideoRecord.ogg with silent files after flashing, that didn't work so i replaced them in system\media\audio\ui before flashing and that didn't work either

Any suggestions?;)
[Desire Android Development] joningi:
Lol, I think you are making this too complicated for yourself.

If you are talking about the shutter sound you can easily turn it off under Camera-menu-Shutter sound (OFF)
[Desire Android Development] ziggy1001:
Oh no that is so freakin stupid i have only used Sense for a few hours before flashing CM or some other rom never even thought of looking for a setting:o

It's been a bit of a hectic evening i had a nandroid restore crap out so had to do a clean re-install then about 2 hours later i got a USB brick but at least that was a quick 10 minute fix.

Odd thing is whereas before the latest Flashplayer was playing vids in the browser this time it was the older v10.1.106.16 which did the trick but all is well now;)
[Desire Android Development] *child:
I can confirm this.
[Desire Android Development] b-george:
Works good for me, on flash 10.2
[Desire Android Development] expler:
Today flashed the new kernel and tryed quadrant.

And awesome I got 2010points.

It was overclocked to 245-1190 smartass.

It's blazing fast!
[Desire Android Development] :
Great ROM but i have a few issues

Hello,

baadnewz, thanks for this great rom!

I have two issues that i have with this rom.

1) Friendstream is not updating at set intervals. Weather and News are working fine. I have to manually update if i want Friendstream to get updated. Facebook is the only account i have set up within Friendstream.

2) Wifi tethering. Most of the time laptop connects to phone but no internet access is passed through. When browsing with the phone it works fine. I'm on HSPA zone. And sometimes my laptop can't even connect to the phone. One time out of twenty i have succesful tethering and it works about 10 minutes before fail. Anyone with similar issue? My radio is 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27 if it means anything. I have tried setting WCDMA only and WCDMA preferred but with no luck.

Thanks,

tinezi
[Desire Android Development] Dirk77:
Same Probleme here with friendstream.
[Desire Android Development] ivicask:
Had same prob, just clear data for Friend Stream , and Friend Stream Widget, under apps, and check after that if syns is ON under Accounts & Sync.
[Desire Android Development] golightlygl:
Can you help me understand a little better please?

OK, I'm poking my head above the parapet and hoping you won't shoot me for asking this.

As I understand the structure of the device now, it appears that there is no difference whatsoever to how the APK is installed. The "working" bits always end up in the Dalvik cache running from the DATA partition. This is so for downloaded apps too. Am I right here?

If this is the case, then why are some apps installed in system/apps (via sd-ext/apps_s) and some in data/apps in the ROM? And is there any benefit at all to modifying the ROM to "cook in" some well used apps (eg new keyboards, K9 etc.) which I usually do with Baadnewz' ROMS.

Be gentle with me: any reply that helps me understand better will find itself edited back into the Wiki for others.:confused:
[Desire Android Development] baadnewz:
like you correctly stated the working bits are on dalvik cache. so doesnt matter where the apk is, the dex file of the apk will end up on dalvik

hope this is what ur asking
[Desire Android Development] golightlygl:
Thanks So there's no advantage to me cooking an app into the ROM (except for convenience) or using Titanium's "update system app"?

Why do you put some apps in data/app and some in system/app - is this just a leftover mechanism from earlier ROMs or is there a difference in the way the apps operate when loaded?
[Desire Android Development] f1st:
hey guys,

flashed the rom today, all went fine. i tried to replace the HTCLockScreen.apk (changed the background picture) with my file, which i successfully used in the casual 2.0 a2sd version. changed the file in /system/app, guess i had to change it in /sd/app_s but nevermind.

the problem now is, i dont have the htclockscreen (already tried to copy the old file back). it reverted to the default android one.

is there a possibility to change it back?
[Desire Android Development] SilverHawk2:
Hey baadnewz,

I've been using your Insert Coin HD/Z roms for the better part of this year and now your Data++ rom for a few weeks. I'm a great fan of your work, the Data++ is blazingly fast and I experienced so far no slowdowns at all! Puts most of the stock roms of Desire HD/Incredible S to shame in terms of speed while scrolling etc....!

Great Job!