yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD Accessories] andreasy:
Guys, honestly I can't understand why you all want to try something that has been tried and proved several times to be fake.

Those guys make money on their lies and you help them expand and design their next lie which we will have to buy again before we realise the truth.

My opinion is that all people who bought similar batteries should return them and request refund because what they bought was not what was described. You bought a 1800/1500 or whatever mAh battery which was really 1240. If eBay or Paypal is involved, you can claim your money very easily.
[Desire HD Accessories] haroujf:
buying batteries from these mass production factories from china is playing with your life dude....either they will short circuit your mobile board, else it will just blow up under slight increase of temperature.... please be caution and use only when your main original battery dies off and use this as backup and not for long hours usage....
[Desire HD Accessories] hoaza:
also need a better battery
[Desire HD Accessories] leppie:
Funny enough, the only reported cases where batteries exploded was for major brand names...
[Desire HD Accessories] Mr.Kakarot:
Ah, good thing I have 2 oems then...but truth be told, I never have to use the second one...but I do like have the backup
[Desire HD Accessories] mackemsrule:
Is there anyway to check the actual power of the battery? I bought a 1600mah off ebay and it does seem to last a couple of hours longer than the original, but that might be cos i started using a custom rom after i bought it lol
[Desire HD Accessories] marleyb:
added my findings/results to the first post

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=987749

sorry, same as stock

I posted a review on the website of www.obostore.com and they refuse to publish it, that says enough I think, right ?
[Desire HD Accessories] Rencx:
This is reason why we better should use External battery packs...

Of course best of them cost much... but still your DHD maybe will live longer.

Thanks for info about Andida 1800MhA almost bought it. I will wait some time maybe there will be better one in future....
[Desire HD Accessories] username666:
When I had a HTC Hero I had one such 1800mha peace of junk it lasted couple of hours and one day just stopped working I will never make the same mistake again.

These "batteries" are cheep for a reason.....
[Desire HD Accessories] rocketeer999:
does any body tried yoobao battery?

currently im using this andida, seems tht hv no prob to me. 1800mAh isnt? what can u expect from tht? its not 3000mAh though..

it might just a slightly different. not much, but at least bit higher
[Desire HD Accessories] Aamir.Badat:
It's standard maybe its says its 1800 but after usage it is 1230mA about 12 hours of average usage finished the battery same as stock battery
[Desire HD Accessories] fipec:
This battery is not worth more than the original battery.
[Desire HD Accessories] pittas:
Ok i feel your frustration about the supposedly higher capacity.

I have no means to measure the battery's capacity but i can share with you my experience with andida batteries

I had 2 of them (1600mah i think) with my HD2 , used those instead of my stock.

In 8 months of really hard use of the phone , i got 0 problems, their performance was on par with the stock battery if not slightly better. They were not worse for sure.

Now i got desire hd 2 months ago and purchased another andida , 1800mah this time. Supposedly.

I use it for 3 weeks now, there is no way its a real 1800mah battery

It lasts slightly longer than the stock battery again, but not a performance that would justify the +570 supposed mah.

To conclude, we re talking about a battery that

1) Costs 10$ shipping included

2) Capacity is not as high as advertised

3) It performs on par with the stock battery at least

If you ask me, it's a bargain for a battery replacement, you can't ask more from a 10$ purchase.

Just my 2 cents.
[Desire HD Accessories] jasonfoknxu:
Is it for DHD??The quality is bad??
[Desire HD Accessories] JeffreyGT:
I've got a Question: Do you guys take precautions when charging the battery? Charging with the phone itself or with an external batterycharger?
[Desire HD Accessories] marleyb:
I charge them in the phone as well external, no problem
[Desire HD Accessories] Noy[ah]:
I'm glad i read this post!
[Desire HD Accessories] hav0c:
Same result here but still a very cheap extra battery.
[Desire HD Accessories] MaxTaro:
WoW.... I so surprise after came back to this post for place my comment. :confused:

After I wait for anyone test but no one comment for few days. I ordered and got it now. The reason as someone post here. It's cheap, no need to wait. :)

I can say that the quality of 1800mhA is pretty good. It's can survive for longer with a good significant. My stock bat can stand about 1 day use (and no more). This 1800mhA can stand atleast 2 days as I test. That's good enought to see a better difference.

I can say the Andida 1800mhA good enough to replace your stock bat.

and...

1800mhA=not fake 100% sure

:D

*** I use original HTC charger to charge the new one via phone.
[Desire HD Accessories] marleyb:
Then you bought a wonder battery or you work for www.obstore.com (considering your 1st post) :rolleyes: or maybe your original battery was a dud in the first place.

As you can read in this thread (not only me) but several members have tested this.

This battery does NOT work longer then any good working orginal HTC battery.

It's called a fake because they advertise it as 1800mHa which it is not, it's the same as stock

If you are in need for a extra or replacement battery it's okay, but it does not have the advertised EXTRA capacity.

my 2 cent
[Desire HD Accessories] pittas:
well sorry to bother you but your (1st) post here is 100% bull****

We understand the purpose of this post, nevertheless the capacity of the battery is not accurate, there is no way its a 1800mah battery

Its a good cheap battery, comparable to the stock one, and thats all.

Everything more than that , is a bull****

And something for the end

Andida company should try naming its products with real numbers, its a good product, but this fake capacity advertising is not helping their reliability
[Desire HD Accessories] MaxTaro:
I live in Thailand. Also 1st post or 1000 post not have any meaning.

I just bought HTC Desire HD. Then look for new better battery. I have it now. Also put my comment here. That's all.

You think bad, I think good. It's free criticize here. I just share my experience. This is not your home. If I post something difference here. That's not bull**** thing. I have to say 'Bull****' back to person who say that. Then, back to your home and say bull**** only your home members.

We talk about the battery. We say it good or bad. How dare you put not polite words to me?

again, we talk about the battery. I'm not kick your ass.
[Desire HD Accessories] marleyb:
This is not about battery anymore, bottomline, the battery is fake because they misprint it with 1800MhA not because it does not work at all.It does work as a normal stock.

So let's keep it nice, if you don't think it's a fake, then thats your choice and sure it's your right, be happy with it :)
[Desire HD Accessories] pittas:
If you dont work for obostore.com then you have serious perception problems, not my fault or concern.

If you feel this battery performs 50% more than stock , there's definately something going wrong with your brains

This battery is ok, performs like stock, and thats it.

It is a bargain for 10$

BUT NO , ITS NOT A 1800mah battery
[Desire HD Accessories] estremodesign:
Eşit 1800mah battery
[Desire HD Accessories] Jackamy:
Aidida Aidida 1800 :D
[Desire HD Accessories] tkolev:
There is an easy way of calculating the battery capacity. Look here. It might not give you the most precise value (as the capacity itself is a variable depending on many factors), but it's a good reference value. My 5 months old not so badly treated stock battery is calculated @ 1121mAh, so it would be nice to see how this magical 1800 mAh battery performs.
[Desire HD Accessories] daverant:
+1

Exactly what I did, except didn't have to return it. Free battery, thanks PayPal!
[Desire HD Accessories] pittas:
I bought an external charger.

I am planning to do a test

I will drain both batteries (STOCK and ANDIDA) to 0% to the point the phone wont turn on anymore.

Then i will fully charge them with the external charger and see how much time it takes for each one.

That should point out the capacity of this battery compared to the stock

I will post the results when done
[Desire HD Accessories] DonPato:
Maybe you dont know, but you cant compare them this way becouse a battery which has been used for some month comparing to another new one is working longer.
[Desire HD Accessories] pittas:
Νο

I got my desire hd 2 months ago

I used stock battery for 35 days or so

Last 20-25 days i ve been using andida, so they re both equally used

I am in the proccess of draining out my stock battery now...andida is already at 0% as phone is not powering up.

Will post my results soon
[Desire HD Accessories] alexckma:
I also bought one of these batteries, I am charging it for the first time, following the mugen guidelines.

I think (from my first drain) that the battery is alright... I highly doubt that it even matches the stock battery (it went down from 75% [from battery indicator] to 10 percent in about 11 hours?

I went back to stock for now. But I will post results later when I use it today...
[Desire HD Accessories] MaxTaro:
I don't know the way to say. Some body here always blame me for this battery. Do I can say something?

I wake up 6am. Then unplug my charger with 100% batt. Now, 11:30pm. I have 70% of batt level. This plus with my son play Dungeun Defender (3D game) about 30 min. This is my today battery consume.

I don't want to say it good or bad. I try to find why we have a difference of test result?

May the version of android has this affect? My phone software info below:-

software number is 1.75.111.2 CL301245

Kernel version 2.6.32.21-g1e30168

Baseband version 12.28e.60.140fu_26.04.02.17_M2

As I knew, version of android really affect this issue.

(Sorry that I try to capture my screen with ShotMe but not success. Cause by my phone can't root.)
[Desire HD Accessories] pittas:
Ok guys i just finished my test

so

I started with charging my dead empty andida with this external charger.

It took 4 hours and 22 minutes (262 minutes overall) to 100%

Then the stock battery, it took 4 hours and 46 minutes (286 minutes overall) to 100%

So

Granted that the stock battery is 1230mah and gets fully charged in 286 minutes

The andida that gets charged in 262 minutes , is 1230*(262/286) = 1126 mah capacity

Which is a result that matches the real life experience, most of us telling that andida performs as stock but no where near as a 1800mah battery.

I will repeat more times, but things imo are clear.

I repeat even this way this battery is cheap for a replacement

The thing that makes me angry is their policy to name this battery as a 1800mah...no where near that number, its not even 1200mah...
[Desire HD Accessories] fatthumb:
Thanks for your confirmation. But again i wouldnt recommend using cheap China replacement battery for your daily usage. Emergency is fine. Those cheap batteries tend to bloat after sometime.
[Desire HD Accessories] paul c:
A nice test - of course, the state of your stock battery is "unique", and probably the Andida has not reached its maximum yet, it needs a few charging cycles.

But that doesn't change the empirical conclusion, that at best it's a standard power battery.

Anyway, how could a cheap battery be more powerful than a stock battery??? A Mugen battery may contain technology to squeeze some more mah into the same volume, but a cheap battery... that's impossible.
[Desire HD Accessories] pittas:
Hello,

i stated earlier that the andida battery was used too, i didnt charge it now for the 1st time.

Since i bought my desire HD, i used stock battery for 30-35 days and andida for the last 20-25 days, so they both had enough charging cycles.
[Desire HD Accessories] pittas:
it shows 1230 whatever battery you will put in

Its a number that this app takes from the rom, not an actual measurement.

I am running my test again with both batteries , will post results when done, tomorrow at some point
[Desire HD Accessories] than33:
I bought this battery. For first days I was dissapointed. System shows that this is 1230mAh battery and my experience was the same. BUT: after few days I realized that finally my DesireHD can last all day of my using (which means: HUGE use) and I still have about 30% of battery on end of day (23:00). In fact I had many days with standard battery when my DesireHD stopped working because of battery. I got Andida three weeks and didn't even seen 10% of battery!

I got strange thing: when battery is fully charged (all night charge) statistics says it has 1230mAh MAX and that it is charged now to 1255mAh! And with every day it shows about 1mA more. Strange? This probably because there is no way to provide bigger battery with correct statistics and Andida is using some dirty hacks/tricks to provide bigger battery.

I can confirm that Andida battery is DEFINITELY bigger that stock one. I can't say how much. If yours is not this is probably because you don't have genuine Andida battery (I saw some cheaper "Andidas" that was fake for first look). You must buy it from trusted reseller.
[Desire HD Accessories] pittas:
I did the whole procedure again

Same results

Stock battery fully charged from 0 to 100% in 291 minutes

Andida battery fully charged from 0 to 100% in 264 minutes.

Conclusion

THERE IS NO FREAKIN WAY ANDIDA IS A 1800mah BATTERY

It charges in less time than stock battery, and that proves a lot.

Lower capacity charges in less time.

Also there was no usage of the battery, since i used an external wall charger.

I rest my case

If you feel i helped you make up your mind to purchase or not this battery, hit thanks button plz:)

I am not regretting buying this battery, its cheap and close to stock performance, i have serious objections though about the fact it is advertised as a 1800mah
[Desire HD Accessories] than33:
Why time taken to charge means anything? This time depends totally on chip build into battery so different battery can have different charging strategies.

I only know that I used my phone today very often (a lot of calls, some emails, about 45 minutes of playing games, many opened sites), it's now 1:03 and I still have 46% of battery!
[Desire HD Accessories] pittas:
sorry but i am not buying it....

why that chip you re talking about has a different strategy for a start...and why does it have to be different only when chargeing and not when the battery is discharging ?

You have to understand we re talking about capacity here...

Its pretty much clear, what fuels up earlier , has lower capacity.

All your statements about playing games for half day etc are subjective , i post objective results here
[Desire HD Accessories] than33:
I will do objective tests someday when I will have some free time. I will test how long each battery can play video.
[Desire HD Accessories] row1:
This thread needs to be locked and a mod needs to sticky a topic clarifying what battery sizes are technically possible with the DHD's limited accommodation and that eBay batteries advertised greater than 1200 mah are fake.
[Desire HD Accessories] dlads:
pop your wifi on and put a live tv channel on your phone, tell it not to sleep and leave it to run, make sure that you have the exact same circumstances for each battery test, even take your sim out so you cant get any phone calls, turn sync off so theres no other things in the background hindering one over the other, wipe battery stats after current widget reads 0mah (charging) let us know how long it took for the phone to die, if the happy meal battery takes longer to die then you'll know, but an 1800mah battery will take a lot longer to die than a 1200, should be by quite a bit i think.
[Desire HD Accessories] dlads:
Not all of them are fake. Apparently Mugen batteries are a lot better, but you aint getting one for the price of a happy meal :)
[Desire HD Accessories] row1:
Sorry to be rude, but please provide a link to an eBay battery that is rated higher than 1200 mah and is proved to actually be so. It would be nice to have a definite guide.

AFAIK Mugen was only able to produce a battery which only lasts 5% longer than stock http://www.mugenbattery.com/htc-desire-hd-extended-power-battery-1300mah.htm.
[Desire HD Accessories] eLPeCKo:
After reading all these posts about Andida I decided not to buy this battery as it is better to stay with stock and will wait if some official original HTC accessory will have bigger capacity than 1230 mAh.

Thank you guys for test you made. :)
[Desire HD Accessories] halfmanhalfmachine:
I would not hold your breath :(
[Desire HD Accessories] paddelundh:
How can u tell if your battery is fake or not?
[Desire HD Accessories] spookymt:
100s of users cant be wrong
[Desire HD Accessories] imptb:
Actually Mugen has made a 1500 mAh battery (in theory should last 20% longer) http://www.mugenbattery.com/htc-desire-hd-extended-battery.htm
[Desire HD Accessories] Jayanth.M.P:
i have been using andida for over 4 months now....i dont know about the capacity...but it definitely lasts a lot longer than the stock one. don't go by the reviews of the guys who write the review within a week of getting the battery.

And enough with the pointless math....unless you're an electronics engineer...please refrain from it.

i have used 2 andida(SGS DHD) batteries and i know that they are a good deal for what you pay.
[Desire HD Accessories] boulevardaed:
It's true that a lot of batteries made in China don't have the same capacity as the package announces

The situation is, even some big brand in our country, they still manufacture 1230mAh batteries

So..do not be keen on gaining petty advantages. Besides, the quality is not assured
[Desire HD Accessories] pittas:
OK math is pointless, while your subjective statement "It definitely lasts a lot longer than the stock one" (Based on what really) , really gives as a clue about this battery.

Nice one, /facepalm
[Desire HD Accessories] :
so far i know there is kind of security in phones/battery which disables overloading of the battery.

but dont know exactly in which part it is.

in phone or battery.

maybe you feel no difference because the phone automaticly disables loading after 1230 mah??
[Desire HD Accessories] Jayanth.M.P:
@pittas did you bother using the battery for a month atleast before you started the math... ?

the people who come to these threads are looking for something that can give them a little better battery life on their DHD.....you posting in bold that its fake is not helping.

As far as I have used this battery....it lasts longer than the stock one....has not given any problems so far.... even if it lasts just an hour extra....for 10$...its a decent deal.

NOTE :Charging also depends on the internal circuitry of the battery not only on the charger.... I can show you a sony battery which requires 12 hrs of charge with the same HTC (USB) charger...and its capacity is 1000 mAh

I wouldn't trust every Chinese product blindly....but

do visit the Galaxy S forum

& HD2 forum.....andida has been worthy of a trial.

From experience I can say that the battery is better than the stock one.....whether that is good enough for you or not is upto you.....
[Desire HD Accessories] pittas:
If you read the thread carefully you will see that my maths are concluding that this is a decent battery for the price.

Its performance is on par with stock , maybe slightly worse.

The reason i am telling is fake is because my belief is there is not a 0.0000001 % chance this battery is 1800mah.

Thats my only objection about the battery.

No one would have problems spending 10$ to buy this battery if it was named after its true capacity.

I know andida batteries are worthy, i use 2 of them with my second phone htc hd2, i would not put a bad piece of battery in my expensive devices.
[Desire HD Accessories] (^.^):
Hi guys, I'm not intended to spoil yr guys mood..

Recently, I've been searching every review regarding this battery, and also looking for the product in Andida website.

I wanted to say that, I couldn't find even a piece of this so-called 1800mAh battery for HTC Desire HD in the website but only for old types phones which I can't even recognize. Ok, I thought may be they forgot to upload new info in their website. And then I sent an email asking about the DHD battery info, and I got sending failure message from Yahoo saying that Yahoo can't reach the email address...

Ok guys, I have a question in my mind. Are this product really made from Andida?

Here's the link: http://www.andida.hk/en/ProductList.asp?SortID=186&SortPath=0,175,186,
[Desire HD Accessories] SANDR09:
Hello guys. I'm owner of this Andida battery and i want to say for you seems it's better then stock. I'm used it around half of year, i don't think what it's 1800 but i guess it's around 1400-1500 real Mha.

Any idea how i can measure real Mha?
[Desire HD Accessories] matthew33:
How's aboout doing what i'm gonna do and just buy another official desire hd battery, charge it up and just simply shove it in your glove box/pocket/bag/wallet/work draw/shelf in house etc etc etc?

then when ur phone goes dead, just whip it out and whack the spare one in.:rolleyes:

matt
[Desire HD Accessories] chue.hsien:
I have one of these batteries... and I use battery monitor widget. Over a couple of charge cycles the widget calculates the battery capacity for u. Mine has been around 1400-1600 for the past cycles..
[Desire HD Accessories] SANDR09:
I guess it's not right information unfortunately...I use it too and i got value between 640 - 4600 ;( (right now 1546 )
[Desire HD Accessories] chue.hsien:
Well did u adopt larger charging cycles? I try to charge only at 10-20%, and all the way til 100% before i unplug... Maybe these batteries vary from one to another haha
[Desire HD Accessories] SANDR09:
I compared Andida Battery (1800 Mah) and Stock battery(1230) in Antutu tester program (you can download it in android market for free)

I measured with this parameters

1.3 Ghz CPU - Voltage 1.050

About Screen and Wifi/BT - program used self parameters

Antutu tester - default test battery

I got score 381 for Andida and 425 for Stock

Start test with full 100%

I part - left 73% (both battery)

II part - left 46% (both battery)

III part - left 19% (both)

Strange test...same value for different battery

but different score... so or test wrong or Andida - big fail

Test time around 3h
[Desire HD Accessories] lee1988:
stock battery is ok depending on how you use your phone
[Desire HD Accessories] gregsarg:
Well,

Interesting results to be sure.

I've also purchased the Andida 1800 battery, and have been running it for nearly a week now. And religiously followed the initial charge/ discharge instructions for use.

4 complete charge/discharge cycles over 4 days time, and here is where I sit regarding the battery overall.

After 3 days of my average use ( a few emails, some wifi, and playing around in there)

I'm seeing a moderate improvement in overall discharge time. I can't produce any fancy application info, only my observations from the time I unplug, until the time I charge again.

Best (guess) on battery life improvement is roughly 15% over the stock battery.

Certainly not the 30+ percent I was looking for, but every % counts I suppose.

My overall rating of the battery is good. and while it certainly is not the cure for battery problems on the Ace, I'm convinced that it's still money well spent. And in my case, about a dollar per % I've gained.

I'm running the RCmix 2.3.5 sense rom, overclocked to 1305 mhz....with a 230 min. (ondemand gov.) and battery life is already excellence on this rom...IMHO

Hope this helps someone decide one way or the other......g
[Desire HD Accessories] shad0wboss:
having that kind of battery life with 1305 mhz is good IMO lol...