yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] PieceKeepr:
I hear what you're saying and will let Zep address most of it but I will say that not all of what the scripts do can be "proven" on a test. The example that comes to my mind is the null entries. Different benchmark tests showed varying results, and a couple actually showed a decrease in benchmark performance. But almost everyone who tried it, including myself, said it made the phone more responsive and snappy, so he left it in even though we couldn't "prove" it helped anything.

I'm glad I was done eatting or I would have spit food all over the keyborad when I read the answer. LOL

Look at this way Seanzle, it's kind of like playing a beta release of a video game and you jump into car but can't drive it or try to open a door but it won't open even though it "has to" in order to finish a mission. It's beta so the developers need to know the door won't open and what you did to try to make it work.

The same applies here, it's a beta release. Even though the script has been around a while, and works very well on most phones/ROMs, there is always a possibility that the ROM developer wrote something that causes havoc when V6 is applied. My phone only likes a couple of the memory settings but experimenting is how I figured this out. Some settings do make my phone slower, but others make it way faster. It's universal in the sense that it will or can be made to work on any phone but not all settings are good for all phones. Make sense?

Since V6 ver8 works, stick with it. There may be something in ver9 that your phone doesn't like. I had an endless boot loop with the origianal KAK script, but it got worked out with the "safer" update.

Those are for phones with LOTS of memory.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zmag:
hey giys im running the 3g tweak (1st pic) and the kickass kernel tweak (safer - 2nd pic) but obviously the kak isnt making noop selected, its still using bfq...

im using an evo 4g hw 4, tiamat 4.0.6, cm7 nightly 156 (i believe its 156, i dont update every nightly cause its a pita) and busybox 1.16.0 (which is preinstalled with cm7 nightlies)

now im wondering if cm7 has a different directory setup and thats why kak cant change bfq to noop.

or if my busybox version has something to do with it? or tiamat version 3.3.7 i heard is "better" than savaged-zen.

anyone out there with a similar problem that knows what to do PLEASE help me out, i really want to see this script work 100 percent like its supposed to. thanks in advance - zmag
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] -iD:
try this: the FIRST option you are met with is speed of output. try "0"... should totally take care of your other issue.

with as many versions of hardware and software as there are out there, "one size fits all" really isn't much of an option. view the various options as subsets of larger categories: Aggressive, Balanced, Mega, and Multitasking. Pick the main goal you have for improving your phone's performance, ignore the rest, and now you only have 3 or 4 to choose from, and if you chose option "0" at the beginning, you will have nothing left to complain about!

:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eoghan2t7:
can you upload your KAK script from the init.d folder so i can look at it?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jawz101:
thanks for the feedback, guys. Nice to have a different perspective
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jawz101:
thanks didn't know the explainations went on for 3 posts. 1st time I've asked, btw.

An auto-type recognition would be a wish but I couldn't imagine how immense that'd make the script. I'd think by then he'd surely have to make this a paid market app.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Lobialkon:
I had backups, but xrecovery didnt want to start :P Anyway, took me a long time, but i restored my phone again. Ill try what you say.

Goodbye!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bodyshop:
Questions,

If i apply the V6_SuperCharger script, do I apply the 3G_Turbo and the KickassKernelTweaks immediately after? Or do I apply them 1 at a time with a reboot in between? Also is there a preferred order: 3G then V6 then Kickass or whatever?

Sorry for the many questions. I apply the scripts and I get Lag after about 4 hours. Trying to see if its the scripts applied wrong or the kernel i have not liking my ROM.

Last, do i even need a kernel after running these scripts?

Kernel Golden monkey 1.1

Rom shooter e3d (sense 3.0)

Thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bezeek:
V6 SuperCharger and the "preview" tweaks (3GT and KAK) do separate things that do not interfere with one another. Apply any of them in any order that you wish, and reboot in between if you feel like it.

If you get lag after several hours, it may be that your settings are not aggressive enough. Different devices like different amounts of RAM headroom, and are multitasking capable to different degrees. Try one of the OOM settings that kills apps slightly more aggressively.

In regards to the kernel - a kernel is the device-specific software that communicates directly with your hardware. It translates the code that your apps want to execute into instructions that your particular hardware understands. Long story short, a working phone needs a working kernel.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eoghan2t7:
You can install then in any order you want so if you want to install all 3 t the same time you can and then do a restart to apply the settings

You can installe Cache Cleaner NG from the market to see if that helps the lag any. or try the loopy smoothness tweak.

yes you do need a kernel the scripts only optimize the kernel for better performance think of it like a windows optimization tool ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] twistedumbrella:
1) Run free and look at free memory. Run linpack against yourself (the invalid results come from two people comparing devices with different app, ROM, etc configurations), Charts, graphs, all that bogus graphical nonsense tells you that if you have my device, with my particular setup, this should be the result, but you don't so good luck trying to duplicate the output.

2) When you have 4 extra apps and 2 other scripts and finally get them to play nice together only to get "Storage low" which would you prefer? An extra number in a list at the cost of 1k or 500k for an app? One script with everything organized, or 5 spread throughout your system folder? It's about covering variance. See 1.

3) Read the android developer page, even if only the overview. The first thing they tell you is that any time a process runs with no output, assign something the user sees to show work is being done. And if the argument is "it was only running a sleep command" then try running all the commands rapid fire with no pause. It doesn't happen. The system needs to take a breath once in a while, too.

I understand your viewpoint, it is just different from the developer side of things. Hope this helps at least justify the logic.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] nodixe:
Thank you zeppelin the script rox lol! I have a sgs continuum with ec03 froyo. At first it didn't want to work (pgrep not found pidoff not found) with bb1.17 so I inatalled oldest ver 1.16 and it worked and continues to work after I upgraded bb to 1.18.2. Im still playin with settings to find best config for balanced/multitask with 338 mb visible ram but that's half the fun...

sent from my XDA phone - its more than a continuum
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bezeek:
The Nitro Lag Nullifier tweak seemed to hurt my productivity score in SmartBench 2010 and Quadrant Standard. As far as real-world observations go, I didn't notice any difference in snappiness or multitasking capabilities, but LP took a bit longer than usual to populate the app drawer after each boot.

(Just my personal experience, specific to my inherently unique Evo. Tested on gingerbread-evo-deck 1.3d with Tiamat 4.0.6 kernel.)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bodyshop:
Thanks, which number is the loopy smoothness 1-21?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bodyshop:
Thanks,

are the OOM settings one of the 1-21 in the v6 script or is it something different?

For the kernel I meant do I need a custom kernel or can i just use stock? Sorry I didnt word it correctly.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zmag:
heres my kak script from my init.d folder, hope you can help me figure out whats going on!

edit: this is the safer kak version, should i run the regular version and upload it also?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jyarborough:
Where would I find this lock home in memory on my evo4g?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Seanzle:
Thank you bro! Your response to the horrible 1st answer was hilarious! Spitting food lol! But yeah im just going to stick with version 8 and see how version 9 goes when it comes out of beta. If it aint broke dont fix it right!?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Daemontrain:
I'm getting a syntax error

"/mnt/sdcard/v6_supercharger_for_android_update9beta1.sh.txt: 1016: syntax error: Unterminated quoted string" :confused: Help?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eoghan2t7:
It should work on any kernel aslong as its rooted and has busybox installed also check the gt540 section for my tut on the loopy smoothness tweak ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] PieceKeepr:
You're welcome, but killakrishook3r's answer wasn't horrible, just short and sweet. I just used more words to explain it. ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] giveen:
So I ran this on my Honeycomb 3.2 with a Dell Streak 7, tried Option 3,7, and 8 and saw no improvements really in performance. Still score the same on the AnTuTu and Quadrant tests.

Still this is a great script :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BigJPNut:
I just downloaded and ran the latest 3GTurboChargerInstallerUpdate3_test_8.sh.txt tweak and was checking the settings and noticed my ro.ril hsxpa=3 was set to 2. Is that the latest or should I edit these settings? Can someone compare their settings and let me know? The turbo3g thread said this should be set to 3 but its different in the file. Was jst wondering if this was an updated setting? Thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bezeek:
Options 2-9 change the OOM (out of memory) limits. The numbers in parentheses indicate how much free memory you may have before Android starts considering you to be "out of memory." Since having free RAM is essential to performing operations without lag or important programs closing, these values tell Android to close certain apps when free memory falls below each of those levels.

As far as I know, there is no reason you would absolutely need a custom kernel, unless said kernel offers features that you can't live without. That aside, custom kernels generally out-perform stock ones, and may include more up-to-date bug fixes, or fancy features, (like HDMwIn support.)

As long as you can nandroid restore in the event of failure, it never hurts (disclaimer: no guarantees!) to experiment to find what ROM/kernel/script/tweak combination suits you best. ;)

Sent from gingerbread-evo-deck
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bezeek:
The safer version does not apply I/O scheduler tweaks, like switching to the noop scheduler.

Mine is also set to 2.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BigJPNut:
That is weird...according to zeppelinrox in an Epic 4g thread this is the updated code.

ro.ril.hsxpa=3

ro.ril.gprsclass=34

ro.ril.hep=1

ro.ril.enable.dtm=1

ro.ril.hsdpa.category=28

ro.ril.enable.a53=1

ro.ril.enable.a52=0

ro.ril.enable.3g.prefix=1

ro.ril.htcmaskw1.bitmask=4294967295

ro.ril.htcmaskw1=268449905

ro.ril.hsupa.category=9

ro.ril.def.agps.mode=2

ro.ril.def.agps.feature=1

ro.ril.enable.sdr=1

ro.ril.enable.gea3=1

ro.ril.enable.fd.plmn.prefix=23402,23410,23411

ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0

Also noticed my ro.ril.gprsclass=34 is set to 32.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeppelinrox:
Placebo.

If you applied the same settings both times, the exact same ting happened.

Nothing changed in regards to the OOM grouping and priorities.

That's why it's safer... it doesn't do the io scheduler/noop changes.

That's recent... it used to be in one giant ass OP but a mod was able to throw me a couple of vacancies :)

I will probably need 2 more LOL

A FAQ, maybe splite the OP some more... maybe have a more elaborate tutorial/installation instructions or just have links to the many guides/tutorials that are now floating around.

As for the reading how much ram on the device, I think that I will cheat a bit and just tell the user, under the menu, what grouping that the user should be looking at.

Try the Engine Flush... ;)

Try 9

Yeah, I changed it again based on user testing.

That one above is experimental.

Some people like update 2 better

Soome like the latest update 3 test.

So I will probably just have a 3g menu with the 3 options... since I can't make up my mind lol
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BigJPNut:
So in ur opinion should the ro.ril.hsxpa=3 and the ro.ril.gprsclass=32 then?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zmag:
no go, i give up maybe its just not made for my phone... oh well (sad face)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeppelinrox:
do:

cat /sys/block/*/queue/scheduler

What shows up?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Aeltar:
On an EVO 4G underclocked to 768 MHz and -100 mV undervolted, running Option #8 with Nitro Lag Nullifier and bulletproof home launcher, LBE Privacy Guard, and ESET Mobile Security - it's great! Everything is super-snappy, even though I'm using a live wallpaper! I await V8 eagerly.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Daemontrain:
Anybody else run into a syntax error on the update 9 beta? I ran it fine. I ran the engine flush fine. And the experimental nitro fine. Now when I try to run the script via widget or script itself I get a syntax error at the start. Any ideas??
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeppelinrox:
What busybox version do you have installed

Underclocked, undervolted, live wallpapers... and super snappy... I don't believe you... you're crazy... lol
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zmag:
i have some good news... IT WORKS!!!

I now see (noop) instead of (bfq)! Thank you so much man im gonna test and see the benefits of this.

is there anything i should expect to see differently?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Daemontrain:
1.18.4 if I'm not mistaken. All the other scripts work fine, it's the beta that threw me the syntax error. And that's after I ran the new options.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zmag:
in case you missed it...

xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16902023&postcount=2750
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eoghan2t7:
No mate thats it working properly ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Aeltar:
It's the truth, I swear! And I'm not the only EVO user of your script enjoying these same results. For any other EVO users reading this: I'm on Synergy RLS1 (non-GM) with More Freedom 0.8.5 kernel, using InteractiveX CPU scheduler and noop I/O scheduler.

Say, is there any handy explanation or explication of the various I/O schedulers, or perhaps a guide to which is more applicable for which phones/uses?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeppelinrox:
1. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14639164&postcount=740

To put that into context... http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14682013&postcount=746

You must have tried it tho... the first thing I'd do is benchmark before and after as well

2. SuperCharger Options... 10 of them including the Cust-OOMizer... generally 3 per ram size...

In total there are quite a few now so I've been thinking doing some grouping... you don't need to see options 17 and 18 all the time as they are basically just used once.

3. I know what you mean but the problem is that people still don't read the script output when it scrolls... imagine how many questions there would be if there wasn't any dialogue? :p

I even hid the 0 speed option so the new people won't know that you can use 0 LOL
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeppelinrox:
oh.. it worked? lol

I don't care about your other scripts. Are you allergic to the number 1.18.2 or somethin?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Daemontrain:
I don't care about your other scripts. Are you allergic to the number 1.18.2 or somethin?[/QUOTE]

It is what it is. Just figured I'd let ya know.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] giveen:
Still no noticeable change.

Still get 4800-5000 on AnTuTu and still 2000-2250 on Quadrant.

Thats okay, just thought you might want to know that I didn't notice any changes.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eoghan2t7:
It did work i helped him/her via pm.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jyarborough:
I am a evo owner running kinged shooterRLS1 ,, more-freedom 8.5,, InteractiveX 768max, 245min. and I am enjoying much snappyness. (no live wall papper,, but have lookout running constantly).. zepp must not believe in his work... Lol. J/k
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeppelinrox:
Of course I believe it... I was joking too hehe...

but really I was a little suprised about the live wallpaper and it's still snappy lol
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeppelinrox:
*sigh*

Yes well it's really frustrating when people know that 1.18.4 is not recommended... then use 1.18.4 anyway and get errors, and then report errors here like they're all surprised...

Why bother letting me know what I already know?

I already know that 1.18.4 is quirky.

That's why the OP says 1.18.2 or lower... not to mention that it's in all caps when the script starts.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 2step786:
Noob Q so take it easy on me lol.

Can any HTC Desire users reveal recommended settings for this script? is there a particular method I can use to test whether the script has worked better or not?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeppelinrox:
boo

heh

well it depends on ram.

If you have 512mb try megaram 1 for multitasking and megaram2 for more performance.

Have you tried it yet?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 2step786:
Yep I've tried aggressive 1 and multi tasking settings but didn't notice any noticable difference between the two. Well megaram suit my Desires 576mb of RAM?

Also note that I'm on Tiamat 3.3.7 with max 752 mhz and min 254 Mhz.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeppelinrox:
option 9/megaram2 probably suits you best since you have more than 512mb.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] marvinlh:
So the mega RAM options are best for devices with a lot of space??
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 2step786:
Nice 1 Zepps. Appreciate the response from u.

Totally unrelated q but why is it that I can only reply to some threads such as this one and not to other threads such as the Tiamat Kernel thread? Using premium app too. I can't get any noob than this lol.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeppelinrox:
You need to have made 10 posts before posting in dev forums...

They figure it will give new people time to figure out that they should not post new threads in dev forums... but it still happens heh

yes
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zmag:
eoghan2t7 (and zepplin too) i gotta give a huge THANK YOU for being so fast and responsive about fixing the kickass tweak for me.

one other question i have now that my scheduler is noop, what kind of performance increase/benefits can i expect to see? should i have run Quadrant or Linpack to compare scores or what does this really change?

and another question, is there any way to autorun these scripts without Script Manager? I would much rather have Terminal autoexec these than having an extra app installed. They're already located in etc/init.d and ive tried everything but Script Manager is the only app that autoexec's the script.

Ive done lots of research in the forums to no avail, is there anything i can add to like an .rc file or build.prop or something? im using Evo 4G, CM7 nightly 156, tiamat 4.0.6, busybox 1.16.0. thanks in advance - zmag
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] marvinlh:
Which is the best setting for if u don't have much space? I think I'm running real low
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lukewong01:
Whats the best options for tiny RAM like X8>?..:cool:....

And what does lag nulifier does?

bulletproofing app does not work...when i bulletproof sum apps....i see the process list..and i put the name like go sms...com.jb.gosms.. is still running..but it says sorry the process not running....:(...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zmag:
every time i post it always seems im the last post on the page and no one can see it lol...

xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16904810&postcount=2770
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eoghan2t7:
You can expect better app management etc also script manager is the best and is more user friendly.

Myself and zeppelinrox are testing more tweaks to try and get the best tweaks for performance etc...

Also stop relinking your posts i read everyone to see were i can help like some other users do ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zmag:
Alright sounds awesome man thanks so much. Oh i noticed you tried to be politically correct earlier and called me him/her (im a guy lol) but ya, so but script manager seems to be the best way so far i have no problem using it. if it aint broke dont fix it i suppose lol! thanks again man you r0x0rz! - zmag
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Drunkpilot:
It's funny, I had applied the null settings a while ago and I thought it caused some lag. I applied the v9 beta and its snappier than ever. Maybe I missed doing something on the last go around. My Hero has never been so responsive and I thought it was great 2 days ago. I don't even want to change roms now (and I'm a flash whore).

Now send me back...like in the deal

Sent from my HERO200
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Drunkpilot:
I have a Hero and I use 6, 7 caused me some lag. This is a low memory device...probably lower than yours. Every phone/set up is different, so do some experimenting.

Sent from my HERO200
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] the_scotsman:
SO anyone have a link for Busybox 1.18.2?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] PieceKeepr:
You know what Charlton Heston said about political correctness. “Political correctness is just tyranny with manners.” :)

Use the Busybox installer app from the Market. I'm prety sure this is the right one ... https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jrummy.busybox.installer&feature=search_result
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] s3icc0:
This seems to be really good script --- but the installation instructions are not clear for me and too difficult ...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] PieceKeepr:
It looks complicated but it really isn't. If I can use it anyone can, trust me.

What are you having trouble understanding exactly? I'm off to bed so it will be tomorrow before I see the answer but maybe someone else can jump in and help out.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Code124Y:
oh my god....

i feel the different between 8 and 9.1....

Sent from my SGS I9000－GT1
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lindsaytheflint:
Running Samsung Galaxy S II, on Australia Telstra network.

Tried the 3G script, but it seems to have slowed down my data connection! (using SpeedTest.net to verify speeds) Uninstalled.