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[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sheepdog elite:
I can tell you nandroid doesn't flash kernels, you'd have to keep track of that manually if you use different kernel with each rom.

Depending on framework, and various other things I would imagine there's room for the two nandroids to interfere with each other but that's just my guessing, and I'm not very sure.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] papstar:
I would recommend wiping in between each restore. As long as the ROMs are both compatible with the kernel you're running, there shouldn't be an issue.

Yes. All the backup name is is a folder where the backup data is stored. It can be renamed to whatever you want.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xboxps2gba:
I have midnightrom 4.1 which is great and I want to upgrade to 4.2 but from what I understand it gives you that AOSP lockscreen that I cannot stand, is there anyway to get the stock lockscreen on midnightrom 4.2?

Thanks for your help,

Jim
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeepEmissions:
I just downloaded 4.2 and in the process of flashing it, but having a little trouble. From what I have read, you flash the AOSP lock screen, so all u do is not flash that particular zip. when I finally flash it, I will repost on here to confirm.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ptfdmedic:
You guys are in the wrong section. Please direct your question to the proper thread, located here. The answer to you question is yes you can restore the stock lockscreen. However, the AOSP lockscreen is ONLY part of the theme and not included in the ROM.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abonet:
Medic, A lot of users cannot post to the development forums -- they lock those down until you've met some criteria. Here's the exact message I get:
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fnordsnafu:
Yep...us newbies are relegated here...which I can understand. Another spam avoidance tactic. All for it...

As for the lock screen. I flashed midNIGHT 4.2 and have the stock Epic lock screen. I haven't installed any of the themes, which is where the AOSP is.

Love midNight by the way. No issues that I wasn't able to easily troubleshoot and remedy. Thanks for the fantastic work.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] solblack:
see

I tried the Midnight 4.2 out and had the stock lock screen. So go ahead and update away!
[G Tablet Accessories] baclimon:
For the New G Tablet

viewsonic/gtablet

I assume the only one available is the one from China?

I'm look a physical keyboard and output the video.

Thanks
[G Tablet Accessories] sjmoreno:
You can get them from Steve at his electroniccrap.com store and he ships fast. It's got a USB port, as well as HDMI out, and an ethernet port as well. The only thing I wish it had was a line out for speakers.
[G Tablet Accessories] baclimon:
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[Fascinate General] neh4pres:
eve is a MMORPG.. there are 2 great apps on the iPhone. iclone and capsuleer.. they use the games api to give a person vast quantities of information on the phone.. is there a way to port those apps? or to make ones for the android os? the only one available now is aura and it is garbage. to make a great app you would need to be a eve player so im thinking porting would be the best.. im going to start some talk in the eve forums to rally people behind this cause also.. and maybe ill get some ideas flowing
[Fascinate General] Phasze:
It helps if you be more specific....
[Fascinate General] jenisiz:
That was pretty specific...how much more info would you like? He's asking if someone can port the game Eve Online to an android app...
[Fascinate General] thefunkbot:
That actually isnt very specific. Is eve online an app on the iphone? or is he just asking someone to make an app from scratch for him?

And why is he asking this in the fascinate forums? This is definitely the wrong place for that.
[Fascinate General] neh4pres:
my bad.. eve is a MMORPG.. there are 2 great apps on the iPhone. iclone and capsuleer.. they use the games api to give a person vast quantities of information on the phone.. is there a way to port those apps? or to make ones for the android os? the only one available now is aura and it is garbage. to make a great app you would need to be a eve player so im thinking porting would be the best.. im going to start some talk in the eve forums to rally people behind this cause also.. and maybe ill get some ideas flowing
[Fascinate General] TheSonicEmerald:
Porting an IOS game can only be done by the developer.

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[Fascinate General] neh4pres:
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Its not a game.. Its a tool

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[Fascinate General] ashasaur:
Same difference. De-compiling (not the correct term I know, sue me) an iPhone application then re-codeing it for Android is not an easy task in any shape or form. A new application would have to be made basically from scratch.
[Fascinate General] thefunkbot:
im confused. what does EVE online have to do with this if these apps arent games.
[Fascinate General] ashasaur:
AFAIK the iPhone apps let you monitor the economy and such. EVE is basically an economy simulator IMHO.
[Fascinate General] neh4pres:
the market in eve does simulate a economy.. But its only a small part

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[Fascinate General] neh4pres:
Bad news

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[Fascinate General] nirmdroid:
Correct me if I'm wrong, my understanding is that, he doesn't want the game on the phone, but an app that lets him have all his stats and achievements from the game on the go, so that he can impress the ladies :-D
[Fascinate General] neh4pres:
No lol.. it let's you look at what is going on in the game with your character

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[G Tablet General] luigic81:
So my situation, I was fortunate to earn a free ipad wifi/3g 16gb from a sales contest at work, well Ive played with the thing for a few weeks and I have to say apple blows. Anyways gunna sell it on ebay, looking like I can get about $450 for it.

I then want to take the money and buy an android tablet, i really want a honeycomb one, but I know they are very expensive as they are just coming out.

So I thought to myself why couldn't I just buy a tablet that comes with Froyo, and then root it, and flash a custom honeycomb rom once a developer ports it over to my device..? It would save me alot of cash/waiting.

So I'm assuming all the G tab owners did some shopping around before buying this tablet. What are the top 3 android tablets under $450 in your opinion?

Obviously another concern is which tablet under $450 will be likely to have the most developer support, being the flashaholic that I am, I really want something that has many roms and kernels etc.. availiable. I did see quite a few roms in the G tab development section, but I am finding it very difficult to find out information about other tablets as far as rom development. What do you guys thing from a developer support stand point?

Thanks!!!!
[G Tablet General] xmr405o:
Under $450 and that are out now tablets....

If you're just looking for a tablet to browse the internet, casual gaming, youtube..you know basic stuff...you can save about $100 by buying a nook. Lots of dev support...I mean lots.

If you want something more powerful with a bigger screen but weaker viewing angles than the gtab is tops in my opinion. If you don't mind a used gtab...than I would grab one if you can find it.

As for a third choice, I guess I would get the archos 70 or 101.
[G Tablet General] luigic81:
Awesome thanks.
[G Tablet General] mcp2009:
I personally wouldn't get a nook. I had one and ended up trading it for an archos 101. From what it looks like there is more development for the GTab. The nook is a nice device but I really didn't think the device was speedy enough for me. If I'm getting a tablet then it should have better specs then my phone (Nexus S). Screen on the Nook was nice but I've always wanted a bigger tab. I like my archos 101 but then again the processor was good but I felt it could be better. I just sold my archos a few days ago on here and ordered a GTab and it'll be here tomorrow. Nook is $250 new and GTab cost me $368, with the GTab you may be getting a worse screen but you get more internal storage, better processor, bluetooth, IMO better dev support, and a USB port which I personally want. I've also had a Galaxy Tab but when I had it development was slow so I got rid of it also again it has the same specs as my phone. IMO theres no point in a tablet that has equal or worse specs then your phone (unless you have a dual core phone) and after experience 7inch screens are good for reading and comics but 10.1inch screens are better for web browsing and even better for reading and comics
[G Tablet General] s14tam:
Had my gtab for about 2 weeks now that I bout from another user here on xda for $320. Prior to the purchase I had been following the forums and watching youtub videos of the device and drooling. Now that I have it, I feel I may have hyped it a bit too much. It is a good device but there are a few things about it that bother me but to be fair I was expecting some of them. the screen is as bad as they say. This device is pretty hefty. Holding it in can be tiresome at times. The bezel is thin on three sides, one of which also has capacitive buttons which makes it hard to find a comfortable way to hold it at times unless you are using both hands. No gps. As for the roms, as good as they are they are far from perfect. They each have their own issues which were easy to ignore at first but after a while i find to be annoying when you want something that just works. I appreciate the devs though and I'm sure in time they will figure everything out. After trying a xoom at frys the other day I can honestly say they know what a tablet should be like. I just wish it wasn't an extra 500 bucks.
[G Tablet General] Mantara:
BuI shopped arround for a good while. I have been using resistive screen tablet PC's in my work for years, and hated them. Ugly screens tedious repeated touches to get anywhere. Call me crazy but I really believe that anyone who complains about the screen on the gtab needs to take a reality check. This thing has better viewing angles than my android phone. What do you want to do with it? Rest it on your coffee table and sit 10 feet away at a 45° angle and expect perfect color? Yes there are nicer screens out there but IMHO this is way better than the crap I have seen for years. I'm sure it would have had a super top of the line screen too if Malta could have gotten screens from LG at nearly cost like apple does.

The price is perfect and the screen is perfect for the price. Enjoy the fact that no one will see what's on your screen unless you want them to. Its a security feature in my book.
[G Tablet General] jihwaan:
^^^^Yeah This. I waited a week for mine to come from the good ol' US of A (Im in oztralia :) )

After reading all the reports.. bad screens, slow stock UI etc I thought ok, well the screen is probably as bad as they say and the UI cant be that bad...

well it was exactly opposite - the screen is actually not that bad compared to some screens i deal with daily. UI was even worse than I could have imagined.

I know have vegan on it and it rocks. For the price I am absolutely blown away.
[G Tablet General] linesma:
You can not go wrong with the g-Tab. Especially since you stated that you are a "Flashaholic." I have had mine for almost 2 months now and absolutely love it. I have tried both the vegan and TNT-Lite roms, and ended up staying with the TNT-Lite. While there are many things that could have been implemented better, in my mind it is a better value right now than the competition. I love the fact that it has removable storage. I have a little case that I keep my micro-SD cards in and swap them out whenever I want to watch something else or need more storage. Since purchasing this product, I have taken it with me on several business trips, and have found it indispensable. I can even back my photos up onto it using an SD card reader.

Bottom Line: If you do not mind playing around and fiddling with settings and enjoy trying new things, then I suggest getting the g-Tab. Over wise I suggest waiting a little longer until the "Tablet Form Factor" becomes more settled.
[G Tablet General] katmandu421:
Just a note on the Notion Ink Adam which falls into the sub $450 category (wifi LCD version, anyways). I received hoping to get better viewing angles but they seemed to be the same as the Gtab, plus I really like the Gtab's form factor a lot more. The Adam was heavier, thicker and more squared off making it not as comfortable to hold as the Gtab. I ebayed the Adam and actually turned a little profit from it ;)
[G Tablet General] luigic81:
Great info guys! Thanks to everyone who replied, all very helpful!

I got several buyers for my ipad so it should be gone today :D

I think the g tab sounds like it will do what I want, it really will just be for playing games, web browsing, and taking on airplanes etc, so it sounds like the way to go. And hopefully honeycomb roms will be available before too long!

Follow up question, where can you get a good case for the g tab? I liked the one that I bought my ipad, it was kind of like a little padfolio and it could fold into a "stand" which was great for watching movies on the plane.

Other than that just gotta research rooting this thing, I plan to pick one up before the end of the weekend. And you guys have already given me some ideas which roms to try. Thanks!
[G Tablet General] 999ping:
Check the G Tablet Accessories forum, there are a couple of options depending whether you want a keyboard or not and at least one more on the way
[G Tablet General] luigic81:
Alright just a couple more for the helpful people here :)

1. is this the best way to root the g tab? http://droidpirate.com/2010/11/27/how-to-root-your-viewsonic-g-tablet/

2. After I root I will be following the instructions in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=865245

So I was wondering if I had to update anything in order to flash custom roms, or can I just root my tab, and then follow the instructions on that thread and be good to go on custom roms?

Also what ROM would you guys recomend? I am typically an AOSP guy assuming that everything is functional, but my wife will be using this tablet too and she is not very tech savvy, so I would like a rom that is pretty stable, any suggestions would be apprecited thanks!

Also I see clockwork v08 seems to be the hot ticket, so I assume that I will use that? I have always used Amon RA on my EVO, but it doesnt appear that Amon RA is availiable for the G tab, is that a correct assumption?

Thanks again for all the help, I know those last few questions arent necessarily pertinent to my original post, but I appreciate the help.
[G Tablet General] 999ping:
All the instructions you need to root the device are in the second thread you linked -> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=865245

Just pick out a ROM - TNTLite and VEGAn are the two most popular around here - and follow the instructions carefully.

:)
[G Tablet General] luigic81:
perfect thanks, guess I should've read this line from that thread

"You do NOT need to root your tablet to install a ROM on this device using this guide. All the after-market ROMs are pre-rooted."

LMAO!! haha cool.
[G Tablet General] mcp2009:
Just a little update, I got my GTab today and love it sooooooooo much. Viewing angles aren't to bad. Monster Madness, Samurai II, and Backbreaker are awesome. Very fast device
[G Tablet General] luigic81:
Awesome I can't wait, should have mine before Monday :)
[G Tablet General] sjmoreno:
Wi-Fi only Motorola Xoom at Sam's Club

I think the gTab is the best bang for your buck at between $350 and $400 especially with the ROMs our gTabDevs are churning out for us. However, if you really want an official Honeycomb tablet I've read that Sam's Club will be selling these at their stores for around $500 each in the next few weeks.

Just thought some folks might want to know.
[G Tablet General] yujikaido79:
I am sticking with my Nook Color

After having received the Archos 101. I was disappointed in the screen quality and the touch screen and lack of dev support. I sold it and got the g tablet and was in love with it until I bought my mom a kindle and started to like the form factor and size. I then started becoming bored with my g tablet. I then began looking at the nook color forums and decided to buy one, since I have bought it, I haven't touched my g tablet. I really like the size and the feel of it, I read more now and still play the games I like. I am happy running CM7 gingerbread and looking forward to honeycomb when it comes out as AOSP.
[G Tablet General] slysecretspy:
The dirty little secret is that there is no day to day life changing use for a tablet. So this can put you in two categories.

#1. You want to try and use the tablet during travel and such. In this case form factor is going to be important. The Nook Color is probably a better option as you sacrifice overall performance for the usability of the design.

#2. You want a device to develop on and try to utilize the latest and greatest. The Tegra 2 is the "it" platform right now for the android tablets. The GTab and its brothers give you the best entry into this field.

I am solidly in #2. Sure I have played some games on my tablet, I have browsed the web and I have used it on the go. But there has never been a situation where my VZ Droid would not have let me do the exact same thing.

I am comfortable with the fact that I bought a development platform. Having it in hand shows me the potential of the concept.
[G Tablet General] luigic81:
Excellent post, and i'm in catoegory #2 as well, I'm playing with house money becuase I got the ipad for free. But my wife really wants something to play games with and I like to watch movies etc on the airplane as well as browse the etc at home.
[G Tablet General] luigic81:
I have another quick question, I've been hearing about how terrible the stock OS is so I want to load a custom rom ASAP after I buy the tab lol, which hopefully will be tonight, had a few people fall through on Craigslist (per usual) but got a lot of potential buyers so it should be gone soon.

Anyways, before I follow the insturctions here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=865245

Do I need to update the firmware or anything else? OR can I just follow the insturction on that link and be good to go? I saw some other firmware updates on the development forum and wasnt sure if it was kinda like having to update your radios and prl on my EVO before flashing a newer rom...? Thanks!
[G Tablet General] slysecretspy:
The tablet does not have a radio so that step is not in there. Once you have installed Clockwork Recovery you can apply any of the available rom options.

There are also kernel upgrades. Android is an OS built on top of a linux kernel. Each of these can be upgraded individually. Just be aware of any notation on wether the updates are Gingerbread or Froyo. Do not mix and match.
[G Tablet General] luigic81:
Awesome thanks, I see a bunch of rom choices in the development section, but not many kernels, what kernel would you recommend?
[G Tablet General] slysecretspy:
There is not a lot to be done with the kernel so you don't see a lot of options. Its really not something you should worry about as any major advancements would be included in the base of a rom. I was just making you aware that you may see some kernel movement as well as rom movement.
[G Tablet General] luigic81:
Cool thanks, just picked my tab up a few hours ago, it's charging now, and will be running vegan shortly :)
[G Tablet General] Droid_X_Lyfe:
Glad to see you got your gtab. I love mine, I'm really enjoying the tegra games right now. It really shows what this tab can do. I also have a nook color *I have an android addiction * I use them daily & they are both on a cm7 variant. The nook is a great little tab but lacks the horsepower for the big games. I actually have a mount for the nook in the car. My nook is more for reading books and surfing, I enjoy a few games on it but the gtab does more for me then the nook. The battery on the gtab is great plus having the dock makes it much easier to set in the kitchen while cooking or outside while grilling. I have the light grid live wallpaper running it makes this thing so enjoyable to see while sitting in the dock or when using. I carry the gtab to college and have an app for homework reminders and such. Never thought I would use a tab or find a place to fit it in but that really has changed. Plus it gives me another device to feed my rom addiction. The gtab is damn near unbrickable too I've had a few times I thought I had done it but nvflash will save it every time. Well worth the money and the screen and weight don't bother me much at all. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do!
[G Tablet General] glgehman:
When I got my G-Tab the 3588 version firmware had just been released by Viewsonic, so I kept it stock until the OTA update to 3588 came down and flashed.

Now, I believe there is an issue in accepting the 3991 firmware that affects whether and how easy it is to flash other ROMs. Please read Roebeet's post at:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=842004 very carefully. If you want to proceed to TNT 5.0.0 and continue using the pared-down version of stock ROM, then 3991 may be for you. If you want to try the others, I would stay away from 3991 until there is general support among the other ROMs for the new boot loader it installs.

glg
[G Tablet General] luigic81:
Well I'm up running vegan, sooo much better!

I have a couple simple questions

1. There are apps that I still don't see in the market even after the fix, most are there, but I still can't find the free Xda application for instance

2. Can't seembto get the battery charge level to higher than like 97%I tried turning it off and letting it charge for a while then booted into cwm and wiped batterbattery stats, still no dice.

Thanks
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Both of these are common issues. For the first one, you could tweak the build.prop a bit, but YMMV. I don't think there's a sure-fire way to see 100% of the Market apps yet.

The second has another thread here, but the gist is that the battery is actually at 100%. the problem is that the stats are off. Suggested rec is to drain the battery completely, reboot into clockwormod recovery and reset the battery stats. This has worked for some people, but not for me.
[G Tablet General] luigic81:
thanks!!!!!!!!!!