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[Desire HD General] dlads:
Would you rather have a samsung galaxy 1 or a desire hd?

Well you can get your samsung galaxy 2 and then you know whats going to happen!! HTC will release a beast and blow it out of the water, again.

Samsung make good internal components and then choose to plague them with bad software and lousy build quality, i'm not sure on the battery life on the sgs or sgs2, but the old on was a very good phone albeit with some sorry issues (ie touchwiz)

We had one in our work the other day (sgs2) and it was blazingly fast, apparently there's only 2 of them made and they were prototypes, it was super slim and very quick, quite impressed with it if i'm honest.

However HTC will always come out with something better though, as for the comments you've made, the battery is poor if your going to hammer it with gaming, music, a 4.3inch screen, wifi downloading, video streaming....etc and to name but a few of the things which the dhd does just superbly, I would just like to say that for the size of the battery, i think it lasts remarkably well. Oh and that's not even starting with the overclocking which most dhd users will be doing, i've had mine up to 1996mhz, never went higher than that.

The weight of the phone for me is great, i don't like light, cheap ass phones, if the samsung galaxy S was solid chrome with no touchwiz then it would have sold a hell of lot more. :-)

As for HTC customer support, I have to say i've always had good service from my HTC products so i've never needed to call them, that's not to say that they won't ever go wrong but i've never had to call them.

From what i hear though they're not too bad, I've heard some stories about Samsung though.

My advice would be to see your contract through (if that's what you have) and then see whats on offer, timing is crucial if you don't want to make a bad decision when purchasing / contracting a phone.

I got lucky.
[Desire HD General] dr.m0x:
I'd wait for htc pyramid. That phone will be cranking. No point getting dual core now anyway because we don't really have the software to support it. You'd be like all those people who "upgraded" to windows xp 64 bit edition only to find a bunch of drivers were unavailable and 99% of the software was still 32 bit anyway.

Sent from my Desire HD pocket rocket.
[Desire HD General] tolis626:
Well,here's the rub.

The DHD is probably as fast as it gets for now.As dr.m0x said,the software we have now can't take advantage of dual cores.So they might be only a little faster,but most probably not because of the second core.

Sense,IMO,is the best Android UI(If i can call it that) up to date.Yeah,it makes the phone a little slow,but with such a beast the DHD is,I don't really notice.I had noticed on my Hero,that's for sure! :p It makes everyday usage easier and more appealing for the end user.Some may prefer AOSP/CM and they are right in some ways.It's fast,it's customizable,it's light and is the first to receive new software.But I'll stay with Sense on my primary phone(Am running CM7 on my Desire though! ;) ).

Build quality is just wow.My pal punched me the other day and his fist landed on my leg,just on my DHD(I know,he is such a bastard! :mad: ).The thing didn't even get a scratch on it(well,so to say,it couldn't get scratched by that but other,worse things could've happened).The guy's hand was tied and sore for more than two weeks! :D There are some problematic phones,yeah,but not so many imo.Plus,it's aluminium,not plastic(I do hate plastic phones).

As for hardware,I generally agree the DHD isn't the most powerful beast out there.But it's got some guts.Really,REALLY strong guts if you ask me.Not just talking about power out of the box,but how many phones do you know that exist out there that can handle OCing up to 2GHz STABLE?The SGS hits some 45 degrees Celsius(dunno about fahreneit)on heavy usage(ie gaming) @1GHz.My DHD,after two hours of playing Angry Birds,Gun Bros and some videos,it never even reached 37(I have SetCPU notify me and underclock when it hits 37 degrees).Now watch my sig.It's running at a solid 1.8GHz.Get me a SGS to do that.If the plastic doesn't melt,I'm buying it! ;)

Then there's developer support.It might not be what everyone wants,but I and most of us around here do care I think.There is word that the SGS2 has a locked bootloader.So it will either be unrootable(by that I mean custom roms etc) or it will be a pain in the @$$ to root it.Until it's confirmed whether it has a locked bootloader or not,I wouldn't consider it.But that's just me! :)

Not wanting to be a fanboy here,but the DHD is the purchase I regret the least.I did regret getting a Desire over the SGS,but that's not the case with the DHD. :)

So yeah,I'd agree with the guys that said you should keep the DHD for now and wait for HTC's dual-core offer.I bet it'll kick some ass! ;)
[Desire HD General] DexterMorganNL:
I wouldnt do, i'm sure the SGS 2 is better, but why would it be worth? You got yourself already kinda expensive phone, selling your DHD would make you lose quite some money, ofcourse its true selling it now would bring more money then in 2 years, but I wouldnt do it.

I got mine DHD with 24 months contract, and well I most will keep the phone for those 24, not that it matters much, but I think its a good investment to keep a phone for atleast 2 years and then perhaps get a new phone after 2 years with a new contract of 24 months perhaps.
[Desire HD General] dhiral.v:
Wait until HTC releases there next desire HD, maybe desire HD 2? or the rumoured pyramid...

I've made a pact to myself that I will be getting the next nexus phone (nexus 3). It'll be the best for software updates (first phone to get it) and by then vanilla android should be awesome.
[Desire HD General] Korntoff:
As soon as I can, I'm gonna go Nexus and never go back. Nexus is the face of android through Google's eyes, android as it should be. It may not have the best hardware for the duration of of being Nexus, but it will always have the best software. People are almost hitting the 4k mark in quadrant with no overclocks on their nexus S's.

Sent from my Gingerfied hd2 :D
[Desire HD General] niks_5in:
You must be joking. I will keep my DHD. I sold my samsung s for DHD. I hated the super unnatural saturated display on samsung s.
[Desire HD General] gtg465x:
Nexus S scores lower than the Desire HD in Quadrant. If someone posted a 4k score on a Nexus S then they were using one or more of the many methods to cheat Quadrant scores.
[Desire HD General] tojema:
I had two samsung.

Never again.

Kies bugs, the software is unusable.

ROMs come every 15 days with more new bugs. A nightmare.

The build quality is so bad that it makes fun of users.

They released a new model every three months ..

Factory to make money.
[Desire HD General] wid0w:
I guess it's all been said by now. anyway, the sgs 2 is going to be priced at around 1000 euros... thats almost double the price on the dhd. You might want to stop to think why exactly are you paying those extra 400 euros for. A dual core processor? not worth 400 euros... a super amoled+ screen? No thanks, I've compared sunlight vision of the DHD and SGS and dhd wins in full brightness. Besides, you have to hate that iphone-replica launcher, it's simply bad.

If you're still not convinced, wait for htc to release its follow-up series of phones because SGS2 is the follow-up to SGS right? well the DHD has to have a follow-up soon (thunderbolt doesn't count). Then you can make your mind with no regrets. And please don't buy LG, they are cheap for a reason :)
[Desire HD General] Korntoff:
Check out the Nexus forums. The numbers don't lie.
[Desire HD General] thiagodark:
Well, now you should post same thing in galaxy s forum... just to balance ;)

I'm not gonna say you should do this, but hold a little bit more, s2 is too new, too undiscovered and you don't know for sure if it is the right decision, last time i made something like that was with my n97, and i don't need to say what came next...

I agree with you in some points about dhd, it has some problems that i was not expecting in a such high device, but is what we say here: "it's the best so far"...

Despite others, i dont really appreciate the aluminum body, cause my dhd met the ground two times and both let him marked for life. I'd rather a rubberized body, like desire...imo.

And i really prefer amoled screen, no doubt, imo it has deepers colors.

I'm not gonna talk about sound issue, gps issue, etc... etc....

About battery, for my use it is fine, as i need to sleep every single day, i can't see problem if my mobile needs too. :)

As a matter of facts, i was waiting for the "nexus 2" to replace my old milestone, but when came out that samsung was gonna make and it would have only internal mem... i thought "wtf google", i hope "nexus 3" will be my next phone. If Google doesn't choose, i dont know, LG, to make the new nexus... i believe it says what i think about samsung. :)
[Desire HD General] mjehan:
The SGS 2 has been priced at € 599 for Germany. The LG Optimus 2x (LG Speed) is available for around €500.
[Desire HD General] stylus1828:
That's so funny! :)

DHD beats the crap out of Nexus S! The benchmark starts at 10:58!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOrEeJQY4w0
[Desire HD General] wid0w:
+1. The nexus S has the same CPU as SGS, how can it score higher than the desire HD? :)
[Desire HD General] paulus_01:
I think comparing DHD to SGS2 may not be so useful and I would agree with what is mentioned somewhere above: if you go for SGS2 now, you probably will see that a couple of months later brings out a new phone that again sets the standard.

I have used a SGS and own a DHD and the feel, UI, weight, almost everything just feels nicer with the DHD then with the SGS.

Samsung may want to lead the market with hardware specs and spend less effort developing the software for the phone whereas HTC may spend more time on the software to get optimal results for the hardware.

How many updates did HTC really give OTA?

I'd wait untill HTC follows up with their new line of phones later in the year.
[Desire HD General] stylus1828:
Let's say that Nexus S is running Android 2.3.3 and Samsung Galaxy S runs 2.2.1 . In theory Android 2.3.3 runs faster and that's why maybe Nexus S scores more points than Samsung Galaxy S. That's only a theory... But 4000 points??? :)

DHD overclocked at 1.8, 1,9 scores around 3500... 3600 points in quadrant benchmark!
[Desire HD General] ascottuk:
unsure how this thread got onto a "my dhd scores more than your sgs" listen, the fact of the matter is, and i have owned both, in every day terms the DHD is smoother to use than an SGS with or without a lag fix, with or without 2.2.1, the SGS for all its "plasticy" feeling, still feels like a premium handset.

the GPU on sgs is by far the better, the CPU difference is hardly anything,

be rest assured they both do everything a user could want (as long as you dont need a flash on the camera with the SGS)

Benchmarks do not represent real life usage, my old galaxy s can score 2.5k on quadrant, nearly 2k on Antutu, and hammers the DHD on GPU benchmarks,

But i would chose the DHD anyday of the week due to its real life performance

just my two cents.
[Desire HD General] stylus1828:
Actually it was like this: " People are almost hitting the 4k mark in quadrant with no overclocks on their nexus S's."

But as you said. It does not matter witch one scores more or less because in the end it's a question of taste.
[Desire HD General] gtg465x:
Actually the numbers do lie. A stock Nexus S scores around 1650 in Quadrant. A stock Desire HD scores about 100 points higher. They are getting super high scores by tweaking various ext4 mount options in the kernel. I can tell you first hand that while these mount options boost their Quadrant scores by over 1000 points, there is absolutely no perceivable difference in speed. Cyanogen himself has proved that Quadrant is flawed and extremely susceptible to hacks that give you really high yet inaccurate scores. The Snapdragon CPU is faster than the Hummingbird CPU. The Hummingbird does however have a faster GPU than the Snapdragon's Adreno. End of story. Take your Nexus back to the Nexus forums and stop trolling.
[Desire HD General] Korntoff:
Not actually 4k, notice I said almost. The highest in the thread that I read was around 3800, but with constant referrals to how it was close to 4k.

Hummingbird never had the right software to run it properly. Gingerbread has given it new life.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Since the new Samsung is more expensive than the DHD, consider selling it and get yourself the new phone. If you like it then say goodbye to HTC till they release an even better one to worry about. If you realize you made a mistake then you can always sell it and and get yourself another DHD and still have extra cash to spare. At any case you have gas for getting a new unit so go for it...! :-)
[Desire HD General] tojema:
Did you think about the HTC Incredible?

That sounds like a superb machine, battery and better screen of DHD .. :o
[Desire HD General] nell0:
It is a heavy phone, because it is a strong mobile, that made of aluminium material, not of plastic...
[Desire HD General] devabhishek:
the main differance " VIDEO CALLING "

i am wondering why has not anybody mentioned the front facing 2 mega pixel video calling camera ....

the only major advantage of the sgs2 over the dhd is that of the 2 mega pixel front camera used for video calling...

why the hell are htc not including front facing cameras on their decvices... we are here in the 21st century where technology is the word... and here we are ,where we have company with such high standards and still no video calling.. i am using a desire hd my self .. but no video calling is a shame
[Desire HD General] Basil3:
Before my dhd I had a hero. My 3 phones before that had front facing cameras, and to be honest I never used them. Two of these phones were HTC, so its hardly that they are anti front facing cameras.
[Desire HD General] urbangear:
i'm sticking with dhd, it's the best smartphone right now IMHO
[Desire HD General] devabhishek:
you dont use that dosent mean that no one uses the front camera... and before the desire hd.. i had htc hd2 and also the htc hd7.. none of these devices had the front facing camera .. i too am a big fan of the htc and i love the hardware of all the htc phones .. but i also want the front camera to be included on these giant phones.... this is where htc is lagging behind..

i know so many people who are going towards samsung galaxy s and galaxy s 2 only because our htc devices dont have front cameras . when a person goes to buy a smart phone he checks all the features .. and there samsung wins cozz of more features at same price point..
[Desire HD General] tvoben:
Save your cash

SGS 2 will be the same s**t as SGS, save your cash and keep the DHD ( its still faster than the LG 2x in many test ) and buy a xoom instead when it arrives.. Pure android all the way, and if you have to have a skin, get sense
[Desire HD General] matt_pan:
With the correct ROM, DHD is imho the best Android device available

In my opinion the valence of the whole phone is much better than SGS/SGS2, because in relation to my DHD, the samsung devices feel like plastic toys.

And I hate touchWiz: This UI is buggy, the widgeds are poor, and it looks like the UI of those Chinese 'iPhones' from 'certain markets'. I'm sorry for all SGS lovers, but this is my opinion, so, deal with it.

So keep your DHD!
[Desire HD General] wid0w:
Regarding battery i jsut passed the 50h barrier and I can post a log to prove it
[Desire HD General] mdalacu:
camera

The only thing i can think of for buying SGS2 is it's camera, the point where SGS ruled over DHD (the video camera was very good, 30 fps all the way, no gosthing in low light)..
[Desire HD General] Basil3:
All I'm saying is that when I have owned HTC phones with front facing cameras (Tytn II, Touch Pro), I've never used it, and I guarantee you I'm not alone.

I also know people with front facing cameras on their phones (iphone 4, SGS) and they never use it either. Sure it would be nice to have, but definitely not a deal breaker.

I would only do a video call in my home, so I have my laptop and Android tab for doing that anyway, and I don't have to worry about holding either up in front of my face.

That's my 2 cents.
[Desire HD General] mjehan:
Benchmark tests on the SGS2:

http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...xy-s2-featuring-samsung-exynos-4210-revealed/
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
Actually my wife uses the front facing camera on her iphone4 only as a mirror to check if her hair looks ok ;). I never used my old Touch HD's - no even once.

I'm not saying our camera isn't a piece of sh.t, but with a faster card I get pretty decent videos even in low light.

As for the benchmarks... it all depends of the benchmarking software and the CPU/GPU implementation it is optimized for. AFAIK untill 2.4 is released the use of dual cores is pointless. And when it is, you'll have to wait for the applications to take full advantage of the boost dual cores can offer.
[Desire HD General] yohanpra:
Hahahaha !!! Poor misinformed soul......you think the sgs is a better phone.......lol
[Desire HD General] devabhishek:
besides the front facing camera , the lockscreen pattern is also a turn off for me.. in my case .... most of the times when i get a call my dhd is kept in my jeans pocket and i take it out just to see that i have accidentally rejected the call .. i really dont understand how can such a big company ranked top for its smart phones make such a silly mistake ...

and video camera is certainly a deal breaker.. many people have only one device.. they dont have different devices for different purposes .. so i think the biggest disadvantages at the moment for dhd id the lockscreen patern and the front camera
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Better get an Evo 3D then than that crappy S2...
[Nook Color General] Dadeeo:
I don't know if this a nook problem or a CM7 problem but I can't get google eReader app or the amazon Kindle app to verify/sign-in. Has anyone had any luck or trouble buying ebooks with either of these apps?
[Nook Color General] Chireven:
I haven't purchased any book from the Nook. However, I'm running Froyo 0.6.8 and I've got access to all of the Kindle and Google books that I have purchased.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] ichirocharles:
[Q] would updating my zio 1.6 to 2.2 unbrick my zio phone?

I've recently tried rooting my zio but not knowing what I was doing I ended up brickIng my phone. now it'll only go as far as the cricket logo. been looking everywhere to how to solve this problem.

btw this happened before the upgrade release now I feel worse for my mistake.

Sent from my M860 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Sorry_8D:
Take it to a cricket store and they can fix it for you. Probably even update it for you.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Mattix724:
You tried rooting and did exactly what to brick it? Sounds to me that you need to fix it your self.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Spz0:
Try the tethered update. If your phones bricked, you got nothing to lose.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psx612:
Hey guys, first time poster looking for a little help. When I was running 2.1 I had the latest version of the Market installed but now I'm using the Freex10 ROM to run 2.2 I seem to be stuck with the old Market (1.82)

Is there any way to force it to update or can I d/l the most recent Market from somewhere?

Any help would be much appreciated!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thunderpossuem:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9741682&postcount=56

I dunno about forcing an update but when I was using miui, I just flashed this and it was gravy
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psx612:
Worked a treat, thanks for the help!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cedric123:
Gingerbread???? YE GINGERBREAD android 2.3!!!!

Features:

-Rooted

-much more i forgot

Hi

This is a gingerbread port from a gingerbread port from the huawei ideos......

Workin:

-display

-battery stats

-vibration

not working:

-everyting(much work to be done)

Source-code(this is the u8150 source code but i think much ppl will edit it and compile their own so i will just wait till this happens cuz other ppl can do this better than me like anryl and meaby tas0s This is too an existing kernel so we meaby can post the 2.6.32 kernel from the froyo ROM.

ROM

-1.1(is having bootloop try base rom for testing)(this is only for devs to ecit its not working)

-(1.0)BASE-ROM(Is booting but has no theming and misses a couple features)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cedric123:
Updates:

1.0 Initial release

1.1 Made some speed improvements + added battery mod
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mih_88:
:cool:

Screens?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cedric123:
Not yet

I am working on school right now waiting for somebody else too test sry for the lazyness just came back from ROME pretty tired
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] joilaroi:
Hi. does it have network for calls, messaging and contacts list?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cedric123:
dont know i should say test it and give a review:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] joilaroi:
Could not get it to work. reason bootloop
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cedric123:
aw not good

can you try this one BASE-ROM???

This ROM is working on huawei u8150 and their ROMS are working on our devices too just with some small bugs.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] shomi190:
Downloading for testing:D

Thanks cedric for building this rom ;)

P.S. Same thing,get into bootlop with 1.1

Now downloading 1.0 for testing.

P.P.S With 1.0 i dont hawe network,so i wil wait next version for testing :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cedric123:
Okey

good to know we have a "working" gingerbread!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tolios:
you are the best . we are waiting
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DavidBull:
I can´t believe it... It,s will work with Ginger? Good to know it and very happy for that. Goog Luck.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tahahawa:
You beat me to it! I was going to port that ROM. Good job Cedric123. Haven't tested this yet but I plan to.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mih_88:
tahahawa, your 2.2 rom was the best from all modifications of froyo..;) I am still on 1.3.2.

I will wait your 2.3//:rolleyes:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Tom--:
Good work, Cedric! :D

Pulse Mini maybe?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cedric123:
I dont think any phone has network with this ROM

But meaby t-mobile pulse mini if you flash pulse mini fix... not sure but you can try i would be very happy!

I will start working on this ROM next week cuz im buzy but i hope now other ppl see we have a "working" gingerbread they go to work too and make it better:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Tom--:
I could test it. At the moment, I'm using the Eclair stock ROM on my Pulse Mini. It's rooted, with Clockwork recovery img. Is it possible to use that, or should I first flash the AmonRa stuff? :)

Thanks!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Shiftok:
I was tested this rom on my u8110.

Not working:

- screen off (showing white screen)

- oreator's network

- wifi

- bluetooth

- camera app

- no fm radio app

- bed calibration

- don't mounting SD card

- vibration on system button click
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] shomi190:
Huawei u8110 not t-mobile :D

Last night i was testing little more and this is not working :

-Network

-Wi-fi

-Camera

-Vibration on soft key

I can't remember what more :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Tom--:
Pulse mini TMO update doesn't help. :(

but vibration does work on my phone!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] maury1234:
did you replace libs? on 1.1
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cedric123:
.

no i changed framwwork