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[EVO 4G General] sgt. slaughter:
why is this being posted again now? This was shown in the other lengthy thread about the new phones coming. Site has been like that for a week, and I wanna say someone posted in that thread saying the nexus one has been like that since it was rumored to come to sprint a long time ago too, and ended up not.
[EVO 4G General] cesarcerros31:
What's the gpu difference on the tegra to snapdragon

sent from my HTC evolution running a freshly baked gingerbread with the 4gs in it
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Its just hard to take Samsung serious when it comes to phones. I mean the rule the tv world but I just don't like how they support their phones(taking forever with updates/fixes). Very hard to believe the nexus s is a sammy product and not an HTC.
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
Nexus S IS NOT SAMSUNG's. For the last time, GOOGLE wanted the phone, GOOGLE gave samsung the specs, GOOGLE tested it, and it's aosp. It is no where close to the **** support that the other samsung craphones get.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
It has Samsung insides, its plagued with some galaxy s bugs and they threw aosp on it. Hate to say it buddy but its a Samsung phone IMO. But thanks for your angry reply, wasn't necessary but I appreciate it.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
And uh, who manufactured the phone again? :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Right dude lol. Hey maybe Toyota will make a car and let BMW slap a BMW navigation inside and BMW stickers and sell it as a BMW.
[EVO 4G General] AyyRayy:
Lol very valid points. But the evo successor is on its way and lets hope its manufactured by HTC and has a way better screen than right now so we don't have to worry about light leakage. :)
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
Please educate your self before "rollingeyes" or whatever a sixteen yearold girl does to act like an smartass.

A nexusline phone is a google experience. Google maintains that phone. Not samsung they were contracted to make the phone thats it.

Further more go check android central about the 2.3.3 update they came down from google servers
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Were not saying Google doesn't maintain it dude, were saying under the hood its still a Samsung and not an HTC. SAMSUNG MANUFACTURED THE NEXUS S. Do your homework man. The original point I MADE was that its still a Samsung and its still plagued with Samsung galaxy s issues. I said I wouldn't buy a Samsung phone. I know Google maintains the software dude we all know this.
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
So what if they manufactured it?

That's like saying because aston martin, Lincoln, and the other line up of car manufacturers are owned by ford, are ****ty.

The phone was put together under google's supervision. It was modeled after google's specs. The only problem samsung had with their phones is their ****ty response rate when it comes to bugs. But guess what, nexus s is owned and maintained by google. Samsung has nothing to do with it. They are just a 3rd party manufacturer that made the phone.

This happens all the time in business, people hire others in order to produce stuff for them. They put their logo on it, and sell it. Just because the 3rd party company has made **** products in the past doesn't mean the one that was put together for another company is ****. Nexus s is by far flawed, or has any problems plagued by the other samsung line up.

And this is coming from a person who hates samsung and their phones (check my first 50-60 posts, if you dont believe me). Nexus s is not just another galaxy s phone
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
I know people with it I'm not saying its **** dude are you even reading previous post? I know this happens in business man, I originally said in my OPINION, I don't care if the president maintains it with googles supervision. I dirkyd3rk said under the hood its a Samsung, I have a hatred for Samsung phones from working with t-mobile for 4 years. I will not buy it only because its Googles starchild. Its still a Samsung and I wouldn't buy it. By the time it releases tegra 2s will be everywhere thus making yet another outdated phone released by sprint I.e hero, evo, etc. HTC is the only way I would go. Screw Motorola, Samsung and LG IMO.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
funny i have friends who have the NexusS and they love it /shrug to each his own i guess
[EVO 4G General] LoveisPeace2012:
Why the hatred for Samsung they make the best hardware hummingbird>snapdragon amoled > tft LCD. Etc etc even iPhone uses Samsung chips
[EVO 4G General] twiz0r:
Best hardware? Three letters: g p s

swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
[EVO 4G General] AyyRayy:
Samsung not getting any love lets wait to see if any specs are altered besides the wimax chip :p
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
As I stated above I worked for tmo for about 4 years and in those years dealing w/ sammy market reps, ****ty service, piss poor phones; I just refuse to give them any of MY money. Its more behind it but that's in a nut shell. The nexus is a great phone and will last very long in the phone war(like N1 did) but tegra 2's will just blow it away. Hummingbirds are cool and better than snap but its all about dualies now. I am aware that tons of phones are still shipping with snaps and H-birds but I'd rather not waste my upgrade on a sammy. The nexus s is far from perfect just in case no one knew that its still plagued with its own probs. Not saying its not a great phone I'm just an HTC kind of guy; their hardware has always been good to me and ive owned almost every phone they've ever put out for T-Mobile.
[EVO 4G General] Tilde88:
bunch of crackheads if you ask me... who gives a crap...

grow up, wait, test, explain. a name is a name
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
nexus s.. is made by samsung.. and they put thier hardware in it. same hardware they put in galaxy s phones. samsung has to do any hardware fix updates.. because they are the manufactures.

it is a google phone.. and google will support this phone for android updates. Most likely, it will get official updates far past its siblings and competition.

but the same hardware issues will be in the Nexus S that can be found in the other galaxy S phones.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Finally someone gets what I've been saying lol these fools act like they're illiterate or something.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Yeah great opinion, thanks for your input Einstein
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
I thought the GPS issues with the GS hardware / software weren't nearly as big of an issue with the Nexus S?

And the universal Samsung hates stems more from the fact that they don't have great support, is it not?

Is that not the main reason why people steer clear of them? So if that is not the issue here ... why the immediate assumptions? The GPS thing is understandable, but if I recall correctly people could tell the difference between their Nexus S and their old GS phone ....
[EVO 4G General] AyyRayy:
Update! I found out today that evo is a HTC patent not a sprint patent so the evo 3d will be manufactured by HTC :)
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Not quite. The hardware is not 1:1 to the Galaxy S and there are more open source drivers in the Nexus S than even the Nexus One (and of course the Galaxy S).
[EVO 4G General] fffourtwenty:
Hello everyone, this is a first post for me and English is my second language. I love my Supersonic and XDA is excellent! I thought the Evo View was to be dual core, while the Evo 3D (Revolution) is single core @ 1.33 and with the 1750 battery? Also if Deutsche Telecom is selling T-Mobile USA to Sprint, will the Nexus 4G be dual-mode CDMA/GSM or just one or the other? I wonder if the Evo 3D will use the same application of the no-adjustment parallax 3D screen and dual cameras as the Fuji/LG design? Either way they will all be more fun to have than the Echo (: Does anyone even remember Kyocera? Maybe it will be ok...
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
but do you think ... samsung or any manufacture...

will redesign the whole insides .. for a small section of market?

ex: htc does it all the time: desire series: hd and evo

there might be different drivers.. more open source for google to use and modify as needed.... but on the most parts the hardware will be the same.

how many screen techs do you think they have? and video process for it? and hummingbird designs? GPS designs? and etc... for the few nexus S they will sell? they created the galaxy s series... so they can repackage the same widget for all carriers.

samsung has had a lot of issues that just gps. and they always say.. "dont worry.. soon will be fixed with the next.. update or upgrade." soon .. very soon.. wait.... oh.. soon.. wait.. oh..

it was not just the galaxy s series that re-enforces this belief. it has happened over and over with their smartphones.

their market strategy.. which seams to work very very well...

build a great "spec phone" and they will come and buy on promises and pretty shiny things. they will forget past transgressions. enter: galaxy S 2....
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Just FYI, the Nexus S doesn't have the same GPS as the Galaxy S. The only widespread problem it had was due to 2.3 (which was handled by Google, not Samsung) being buggy.
[EVO 4G General] AyyRayy:
I think ctia will be a huge success overall from the last "industry first" lol
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
Yeah, agreed. Like HTC builds better but Samsung of 2011/2012 will be quite unlike Samsung 2009/2010. They've made a giant reallocation of focus and resources into the phone market. Mark my words...check back 1 year from now. I KNOW!
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
same song.. different verse...

same was said when the GS was released. the GS is a world release.. they can not afford to F this up... major resources and commitment to support and been re-addressed... yeah right!

mark my words..

samsung sold more than they predicted on the GS...they have learned.. that spec and promises sells.. and customers have short memory.

only way to make them change... dont buy their next big phone... when it fails... then they will have to change!
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
What does this have to do with the possible Sprint Nexus S?

Problems with the Galaxy S:

-Crap files system for internal storage: Gone, replaced by Google.

-Really crappy GPS: replaced by Samsung/Google.

-No software updates: Supported by Google.

Why the Nexus S is still good:

-The GPU is still about as powerful as the Tegra 2.

-Super AMOLED display (but I wish it was the Plus variant, and maybe it is?).

-Open source drivers = lots of community development potential

-Should be mostly supported by CM and MIUI (Finally fully working and open source WiMax drivers?)

-Vanilla Google with instant guaranteed updates

-Vanilla Google with instant guaranteed updates

-Vanilla Google with instant guaranteed updates

-Vanilla Google with instant guaranteed updates

-Vanilla Google with instant guaranteed updates

-Vanilla Google with instant guaranteed updates

-Vanilla Google with instant guaranteed updates

The EVO 3D has to be dual core, qHD resolution, and tons of internal storage to drive me away from the Nexus S.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
read my post and the quote i was responding to.

there will be other phones form samsung other than nexus s.

you know that right?
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
No, I don't. It never occured to me that Samsung will ever make another phone.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
well.. now you know.... and that is half the battle ;)
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
I'll admit.. I love the idea of having a google dev phone available on Sprint.

Being Samsung does kill it for me tho. They have a bad history that won't be forgotten just because they wave a new shiny in front of me. They can absolutely make me want to buy their products again.. but only AFTER they start making some good history.
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
yes, they have a bad history for supporting their phones. Thats the point in the whole argument. But guess what, nexus s isn't supported by samsung, i mean it is, but the software and everything is what google wanted. The phone is different in a thousand ways from the **** they usually produce.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
I know that, that's not really what I'm trying to say.

If I buy a Samsung phone, regardless if it is a google phone or not.. I'm still supporting them by purchasing their product. That is something I don't want to do until they change their history.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
bingo..

pop goes the weasel...
[EVO 4G General] indagroove:
They did it with Pontiac, not BMW. Toyota Matrix = Pontiac Vibe.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I don't know about ya'll, but to me, buying a Nexus phone is supporting Android/Google more than anything. Definitely more so than any other device on the market.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
I think a lot of people are confused and don't really know what to think.

Apparently, based off of the numerous posts ... not counting ditkyderk ... because we all know he is simply an unknowing child of the game, people think the Samsung stigmata carries over to the Google phone. That's fine. Who cares.

If there was a Sammy product I buy, terms of phone, it'd be the Nexus S. Even then, I think a of the hate hy dorky folks is blind hate
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
ok.. you win... you obviously know more than i.

buying a $200 phone... from sprint..

sprint sends samsung my money.. plus sprints portion to samsung..for the $600+ device.

will support android and google... more than any other android phone.

i need a drink.. so I can see around funny corners like u

but i will agree.. you can buy anything you want .. for any reason you want.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Congrats Dan,

You drove right by the point. And crashed into that wall.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
doesn't buying any android phone support google and android the same???

they see the same revenue...which is .. the market; searchs; and ads through the phones/apps.

not one $$ from the sale of the phone (any android phone).. goes back to google.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
So now you're being serious?

Nice stealth edit too

Dan is dirtydike mods confirmed
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
no.. please educate me...

how does the nexus s.. support google/android more than any other android phone.

my edit .. was to add more info .. did not change my opinion.

or are u trying to deflect from your ignorance?
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
How was that post even in reposnse to what I put up? What? LOL

Dude, again, what?

You really are dirtydike aren't you? Say some next level **** ... respond to a reply with nonsense ... include the word 'opinion.' Profit. (Or have your parents profit and buy you that appletop you claim to have snagged in your own)

Keep on.

Profit again xMillions.

#duhwinning
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
hahaha.... redirection is your only defense?

good night.. good luck
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
#Duhwinning
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
considering that google did 99.9999999999% of the marketing of it (and spent millions of dollars on banners/online ads/designs/etc..), as well as the OS coding of it, im pretty sure buying Nexus S supports google dev team more then buying evo which is purely written and used by htc.

Samsung is merrily a 3rd party manufacturer, as I have stated before. This IS google's phone, just as N1 was google's phone. Samsung just produces it because its 100x cheaper for google to have an actual manufacturer make it, rather then spend millions of dollars on getting their own factory and **** to assemble it. Samsung builds it -> google licenses it -> google distributes it to carriers. Samsung gets paid for the bulk delivery, while google makes money from each sale of a phone. Versus where google makes nothing but licensing agreements with htc and the other providers.
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
huh? The nexus-s wasn't made by samsung? I thought the hardware was all from sammy.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
It is.. dude is just talking out of his ass. Just like the nexus one is an htc phone with vanilla android the nexus s is a samsung with vanilla android.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
LoL he's been doing that this whole thread. He took my original opinion and created this argument to justify the nexus s being made by Samsung but supported by google like we dont aready know that **** lol. I understand you want to sound smart and knowledgeable but sheesh man give it a rest. Obama and Google can support it who cares its still completely made by Samsung bro. Why doesn't he get that.
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
The Nexus S is the only phone on the market today that I would rather have than my Evo.

Some of you guys have some pretty crazy ideas (the Nexus S will suddenly and magically have a dual-core processor and be made by HTC? Are you on drugs?)

However I also have to disagree that Samsung is a poor phone manufacturer. One wonky component (that was not even built by Samsung) does not make them a lousy manufacturer. There is a reason Apple uses Samsung processors and camera sensors in their devices: because Sammy makes some of the best consumer electronics in the world. It is a shame that so many people have problems with some of the Galaxy S GPS units. But it's not like HTC or any other manufacturer has always had 100 pct success either. I'm not excusing it. But.... it does happen, and it doesn't mean Samsung sucks from now until forever.

I am excited about the Nexus S coming to Sprint and I will probably sell my Evo and get one, depending on what else is around by the time it is available.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
You're an idiot kid for real. I'm 26 years old man my parents stop buying me **** when I was 19 leave my parents out of your non sense. Dirty dike that's the best you have yeah real next level **** talking man I want to be like you when I grow up. I have 1 account and that's this one I can assure you no one on this thread is worth creating another account just to talk **** to scrubs like you. I actually have real career **** to do what are you doing just hitting that F5 button over and over. Get a girlfriend or something kid or a guy whatever you like and get off the internet man and remove the rubber fist from your ass.
[EVO 4G General] sgt. slaughter:
really dont think they own a patent just on EVO. least i have yet to see any document showing that. They do own trademarks on "EVO 4G" "EVO Shift 4G" and the likes but nothing I have seen shows they own "EVO" alone.

It likely is an HTC phone but just for arguments sake I haven't seen any factual proof the name "EVO" alone is owned by them aside form the reg folk in here jsut saying it is.
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
No sd card means no nexus s for me, the Evo 3D on the other hand I'll most likely snatch up unless there is something majorly wrong with it. Such as no sd card.

Samsung makes great TVs but the simple fact that their top of the line phones don't even have froyo on them yet says alot. Theyre going to have ice cream out before they get 2.2 right. Google also had trouble with them bricking whenever they would try to install AOSP on it which is yet more proof that their software engineers are completely incompetent. I'll pass on them.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
One thing I will say in Samsungs favor.

I hear the Nexus S and the GS phones are getting some seriously good battery life. Any confirm this? Poor battery life is one major flaw I can't deal with on most HTC phones.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I understand the SD card thing. Some people need it, but with 16 GB and upcoming Music syncing it's not really a issue for ME.

...but who care's how Samsung deals with software updates? This is a Google phone. The Nexus phones will have Ice Cream weeks/months before any other phone.

The biggest downsides to me is the pentile matrix setup on the regular SAMOLED and non higher resolution.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
i just wanna see specs and a leaked screen shot of the phones. if the nexus s does not have an sd card then ill go with the evo3d.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Me too! I keep hearing that Sprints Nexus won't have the sexy screen...

But I am more interested in seeing the specs and looks of the new EVO already!
[EVO 4G General] Brutus2TheMax:
Nexus S for me! Don't care about dual core that much as I think it's unnecessary. I've always wanted a Nexus phone. Even the stock rom on that thing flies.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
yes.. i have heard the same thing.

i have also read the reason is that htc send more power to the radios for better connectivity. which i have been able to see with my sister's epic. where she has a hard time getting a lock on GPS, 4G, 3G, wifi, sprint network... my evo would have a "better" lock on that signal.

i think that it is great that google supports the nexus phones... which means faster and more updates.

but...here are my reasons not to get this nexus.

1. i love sense

2. no sd card

3. no led notification
[EVO 4G General] popular nobody:
Nexus S is a Google Experience device, something that Sprint doesn't have. It will receive updates from Google themselves. Samsung is the manufacturer of the device, with Google's backing. It's safe to say that it'll have lesser problems when compared to the other Samsung devices.

I've played with a pre-production Nexus S for Sprint, and it didn't have the SD slot. The guy testing it said that they are going to change the cosmetics for the device, so it's possible that they could include the SD slot. The screen still was AMOLED.
[EVO 4G General] dkdude36:
the thing i will be most excited about if a nexus s comes our way:

faster vanilla ports because it's already cdma!
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
You come across as a 19 year old.

And learn what the **** an opinion is. You said some **** like it was a fact and when called out you're all like, "chill man, its only, like, an opinion."

I constantly see you doing this two step dance ...its hilariously stupid.

An opinion would be something like you not liking their plastic backings or something, that they feel cheap. Claiming that this phone sucks and Samsung sucks and its garbage like the GS is, thats not an opinion ... that's more like being wrong.

And that was the best I could do, probably shouldn't have included the jab in there but I was drunk and said **** it. But I shouldn't have stooped to your level, you're right.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
That's great to hear. I don't mind the exclusion of the SD slot but I really hope, and somewhat doubt, that it has the new Plus variant of SAMOLED. The colors are great but text looks kind of jaggy on the older version.
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
I clicked the thanks button by accident. Oops!

I just want to say that I think you guys should both knock it off, because your personal argument is cluttering up this thread and it's pretty annoying.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
this has a lot of bad info.

android is open source... there is no $$ in licensing.

EVO(any android phone)... OEM does not recreate/code their own android. they get android from google (free) and add their own seasoning to it.

i am not so sure about the distribution part either... are you sure? it might have been true with the Nexus One. Google sold that at their website. but the Nexus S, i dont know if you are right or not.... but i would think google has no hand it it.

since tmobile was giving it a way for free a few times (no $$ from customer on the sale of the phone).
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
+1

Enough with the keyboard Rambo. Can we just anticipate the new phones now.
[EVO 4G General] LordLugard:
...the same tegra 2 in the Xoom that can't handle h.264 video files that the gpu in my Epic 4g plays with ease? Go to the Xoom forums and see how much love your vaunted tegra 2 is actually getting.

It's one thing to hate Samsung with a passion like you do, but it's another not to know how lacking sometimes the competition is. For now, the tegra 2 isn't showing me anything capable that the PowerVR gpu in the Galaxy S series isn't doing better.