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[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
Yes that could be possible...

However I doubt it's really a must.

I'm still thinking about a way to improve the downloading. Maybe some kind of tap and hold and than click download or something.

I will add a progressbar underneath the file that is downloading anyway I think so at least the user can see which song is downloading and the progress.
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] GIPAQ:
Hi Marvin,

This is a great app. Very nice and fast. A few things I would like to see.

1. Be able to create multiple play lists.

2. Be able to delete individual files from play List.

3. Be able to move a song up/down in the play list.

4. Be able to move files to different play lists.

5. Option to download later, like a queue.

Thanks
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] tchitchicruise:
@ Marvin_s

Your Walkman7 v2.0.2 work fine with 3G too!

;-)

@ GIPAQ +1

;-)
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
2. Is already possible. Same as in mailbox

3. I planned on doing this indeed, but its kind of annoying to implement since i could only do move current playing song up or down, bc if you select a song iylt will start playing.

5. Sounds good but can u explain what u mean? Like download only when tap and hold? This work method is kind of againt the app of having the entire playlist stored on the phone. And does this option disable streaming as well? Because if you stream why not download as well ur using data anyway. Or is the streaming too slow because its downloading as well?

Multiple playlists is a bit of a problem because it will download the songs and eats storagre fast. However i could do something that it will release all resources if the playlist is unloaded, the down effect is no more songs are stored when going back :( to a different playlist.

Again the suggestions are good however please come up with a way to implement or think about implementation, 30 songs is 90 mb which is isolated storage maximum, having 6 playlists of 5 songs in other words.... Kind of a problem
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] pasp1001:
marvin hello!! i just d/loaded v2.0 in marketplace- 23.03- 00.30 cet!!

i had ur previous version(1.6 or similar) and i didnt pay any attention to the marketplace... just saw familiar name- and installed... could u confirm that the app "hit the streets"??
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
YES i just received a mail!! great news great news :)

lets hope we can get it into as many new hands as possible before it will be taken down :)

Thanks man
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
Since the app has hit the marketplace there is no need for the development thread anymore... so the development thread has been removed.

Please report any further suggestions here and provide feedback/rate or comment so I can keep improving the experience. Thanks a lot.
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
Hey I read there is a problem with the keyboard disappearing because of the add. Since I dont have a device at the moment (it's back for repair) I can not correct it atm.

But I'll correct this problem as soon as I get my device back (+/- 3 weeks) and ill add some more stuff! Stay tuned

Im kind of scared if I submit the update to the marketplace that it'll be pulled so I'm waiting out a little longer before submitting that version to the marketplace.

I hope everybody understands, I'm trying to provide the best experience possible for everybody.

Thanks for the great reviews and ratings :)
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
Im getting requests about having multiple playlists. So I started thinking about a way to implement this.

I'm thinking about having a tab called library in which all songs are stored and a tab called playlist as is now. All songs picked from the search will be added to the library and the user can pick whatever songs are in the library and add and delete them from their playlist. If a song is removed from the playlist it will still be in the library. Its not really having multiple playlists but it kind of does the same trick, all you have to do is manually make a playlist each time.

This would be much easier to implement and would function a lot faster than having multiple playlists and will fullfill most peoples needs I think.

Does anybody disagree? Any other suggestions?

Planned for the next release (will arrive in ~3 weeks):

- Move song up and down

- Download progressbar underneath downloading song

- Possibility to abort the download and download a different song (right now it just continues to download but does not save it if one deletes the song while it is downloading)

- Stop and resume downloading

- Error messages when no network available

- Library which will contain all songs / Multiple playlists

Bugfixes:

- Fixed the annoying keyboard disappear bug!

- Improved the dragging to fast forward/rewind

Thanks for the ratings and reviews, I do what I can to improve upon the suggestions given in the reviews
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Casey_boy:
Just downloaded from the Marketplace.

What a cool idea for an app!

Had a few problems finding the songs I like - especially new ones. What database do you use - or is it a custom one? A few suggestions:

1. After typing a song to search for, if the user hits the enter key then the keyboard should disappear and the app should start the search. At the moment, it doesn't do anything :)

2. Have you thought about a paid version which doesn't have the ad (though to be honest your ad doesn't always show) and the "trial" is fully featured but ad supported?

3. Oh and I'd love for the songs to appear in my Zune library - but I see you've said this isn't possible. However, could you link your app in the Zune library (like last.fm and youtube) do?

4. I just tried playing a song and I got a **** cover version by some random guy. I guess it's not possible for you to differentiate between genuine versions and cover versions?

5. I don't think you need to have the bottom banner (with the rewind/play/fastforward buttons on) and the progress bar on any page except the playlist page unless a song is currently playing. Currently they just take up real estate.

Great work though.

Casey
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
Thank you :)

Indeed its a search-database of a massive audio host the app uses for searching. I used to have google as the search-engine, but it had too much outdated/broken content, so I found a way to search the host directly.

1) Indeed this will be addressed in the next update :) already works on my pre-release version. However I need a few weeks before my device will get back so I can finalize testing on a real device.

2) Yes, however I have no idea how to receive money from Microsoft, since my country is not officially supported. I will have to be sure I could send in tax papers and stuff. So this is not really in my hands and I have no time atm to find out how to get these papers. However I'm positive if I find out how, a paid version will follow as soon as possible, but I have to know first I wont risk a court-case. You can get a banner-free xap by donating directly trough paypal, I already handed out ad-free xaps, but you will have to side-load and ask me for the latest xap every time I release a new version, so its far from ideal.

3) - This is indeed not allowed, there are no API's available to do so. Third party developers can not add songs to your zune library without hacking as far as I know, why do you think there is music in the marketplace :). The only thing which can be saved is a picture, no music so this app and non of the other apps will be able to do this I think. Last.fm is not available in my country (pretty weird) so I don't know if they are capable of doing this.

- Not sure how to accomplish this. But Ill investigate the possibilities and see if it's easy to integrate. I'll have to ask on msdn.

4) I'm having no control over the content. Its uploaded by many many users and all I'm doing is serving you the direct links automatically. You can find the same content by using google, but my app filters it down to audio results and lets you store and create play-lists of course.

A cover version is annoying but unfortunately I have no control over it and there is no way to filter crap songs, the user really has to do this themselves. Like filtering crap results on youtube, this is just the problem of publicly accessible servers. However there are probably a lot of alternatives which are original versions and not covers.

5) This is indeed a good suggestion, however I prefer having it always visible because when I'm searching I sometimes want to change it. I build the app because it was what I was looking for and decided to release it. Since it's accepted positively I'm looking for ways to make it suitable to everybody's needs and not just mine and am rethinking a lot of the decisions I made initially.

I will think about it.

I hope I could answer all your questions. There are just some unfortunate limitations. However for the people who dont have access to a zune-pass/slacker radio/Last.fm and do want to have their music wherever they go I hope it can fill the gap.
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] eternalemb:
Thanks a lot for this app man! I still miss my Zune Pass, but this helps a bit. I have 6GB of music on my HD7 but occasionally you know you get the urge to hear a particular song and lo and behold, it's not on your phone! Well your app does fill in that gap quite nicely! Keep up the great work!
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Atrixx:
By far one of my most used apps, great job.

The only problem i really have, is when the data connection drops out on my phone and streaming stops, it just doesnt play the song at all. So If you could make it so then you can resume streaming, it would be awesome, and when there's a broken link, can it just skip the song in the playlist? Really well done though, i hope to see more from you,

Keep up the good work.
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
thanks ill look into this, just received my device from repair but its still broken so i have to send it back again :(
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] TJaiharn:
Thx Sir :D
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] bdotr:
nice! kudos man!
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] buffalosolja42:
Your app!!

Well first of all let me tell you about your app, it has caused numerous iPhone users @ my gym to switch to WP7 :) Thanks for your hard work.
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
The app stopped working!!!

So I updated the version quickly to make it functional again...

It has some bugs, but I want to keep it functional.

The following version contains a few improvements, the next version after this one will feature multiple playlists etc.

Sorry for the inconvenience the updated version should be in the marketplace soon!
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] spliffmonkey187:
Glad to hear you are fixing it Marvin, awesome work as usual.
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Mclovin1001:
I can download this or find it on market place

Help !!!!
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Turkishflavor:
its not in the marketplace anymore :(

downloaded the xap and installed. for me it doesn't work. finding songs no problem, but when I try to start a song I'm getting always the error "Failt to connect to the service"... restart didn't help. :(
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] mapjan:
Unfortunately since yesterday it stopped working :( It was my favourite WP7 application.

Please fix it, and make it work again :cool:
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
People please read! Im not a machine, the fixed xap is awaiting testing for 2 days.... Im not above the law, nor can I skip the Microsoft testing phase. If It wont get trough today, Ill have to resubmit it tonight and it than will not be in the marketplace before monday...

Plus I'm just done with my exams since yesterday and have some parties to visit :D

Im working as fast as i can ill upload the xap right now.

I had to pull this because i was getting insulting reviews (comments like" *** thing does not work you suck" and other hatefull reviews after it stopped working), and i do this for fun and deliver for free I don't tolerate insults like that, so thats why I had to pull it from the Marketplace (it was #77 of all apps). There are very frustrated people reviewing wp7 apps, spoiling the fun. Sorry people but you all here have been very supportfull and ill keep posting the latest xaps here, which will work! And ill try as hard as I can to get it back into the MP asap.

Anyway here is the xap its halfway the new release so it could be buggy, please report bugs.
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
Failed certification becaus there is no copyrighted material filer on the found content (duh!) sorry people it will remain a sideload project but probably will never see the marketplace again...

Thanks for all the support the app did very well in the marketplace and ill proudly maintain it for the sideload crowd :)
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] mapjan:
Sorry, when I wrote my message, there was no info about testing...

I appreciate your job very much, keep the good work and don't care with those, who can only complain. I can and I will sideload it, I don't care that I download it from the marketplace or simply from here :)
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
Oke no problem :) thank you. Enjoy and let me know if there are bugs or something :)
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] diboze:
thanks for sticking to the project

thats just normal for the people. when something doesnt work, they just shout out loud.

Just remember we here are thankful for the release :)

Have fun partying!!! :p
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Turkishflavor:
finally its working perfect! thanks mate :)
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] TOA Duck:
Yea good job and eff all the idiots and all there comments. Keep doin watchu doin.
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] thesecondsfade:
Yet there are Grooveshark clients out there on the Marketplace with no filters. Odd how they pick and choose which are okay and which are not. It seems dependent upon the person who reviews your app at Microsoft.
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
Isnt the grooveshark thing removed? Well i think its also strange a youtube downloader is legal, those things also bypass youtube commercials and contain illegaly uploaded songs. If i would use youtube as source and store the audio im quite sure it will get rejected too. The problem is that there are old test reports and i think they look at them first to see on what it failed so it gets more noticed. I might try a different name and see if that will work... But im not looking for trouble with ms pr risking my dev account if i submit too many violating apps or something. Dont know if they count this, but its worth a try
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] megagprime:
error

Im getting "failed to connect to the service" errors on every song now :(

Worked awesome before...
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] the92playboy:
Weird, I just tested it by searching, downloading, and playing a new song, and it worked perfect for me.
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
maybe service downtime... Thats possible. Pm me if you keep having problems. Maybe they changed there links and i have to reprogram the app.Im on g here so cant test the service its too slow. Ill test tonight or tomorrow.
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] the92playboy:
Awesome app, I really like it.

One small request though would to be able to remove songs from the playlist as well. I have all my songs, and then a Justin Beiber song in the middle that I grabbed for my kids when we were driving.

Keep up the great work!
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] j_sous:
outstanding job on this app. Keep up the upgrades and improvements, we love it!
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] s7yler:
super app! works perfect, nice job
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
you can; tapping on the left side of the songs brings up checkboxes, check the boxes you want to delete... now click the pop up menu (the 3 dots) the option delete selection is now available
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] hai_ninhthuan:
do not know what to say, great app
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] politoloco:
Great Job Marvin

Sir, let me tell you that your app is awesome. Well done, and easily my favorite app. I was following it since day one, I was very surprise when I saw it on MP, but Happy that was there until stopped working. I downloaded your update 2.0.0 xap file and enjoy it. I have not been around in the forums for a month, I was out of the country. Happy to see you have been working on it and I'm going to update my version to the latest version 2.0.7 xap file.

Let me tell you that your app kept me entertained while in south america, and I was able to add songs to my playlist from artist from the region. I was surprise and happy at the same time. Great job once again!!!

I have a question, I think if I update the xap file, my playlist is going to dissapear. If that is the case, is there anyway the Playlist could be saved???

No big deal, in any case I would hunt the songs again.

I'm very eager to see what do you have new in the update, Too bad I have to wait until after work. Oh well, back to work!!!

Keep up the good work!!!;)
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] politoloco:
Marvin, I got to update the Walkman7 2.0.7, but when I search for a song I get .exe, .jpg files and not related with the search song. after a few tries, the app crashed. I try to load the previous version that I knew it worked, but it got the same result, what am i doing wrong... please help me... thank you
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] phil_rouge:
I have exactly sames problems !

:confused:
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
Hey i have been working on another time consuming project so took me a while to respond...

I took notice and will hopefully correct the error this weekend and also come with an updated version.

Thanks for the support!
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
And we are back on track like nothing happend!

Fixed a bug also...

it works fine again.

The new version will come when I have the time, for now this should be the version everybody can enjoy again :)

(And hopefully with mango... Background playback!)
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
There is no way currently to save a playlist, its kind of unfortunate I understand.

Ill try if I can work on something, or maybe integrate a dropbox/email exchange system.

The thing is I try to keep the app as simple as possible, pick up search a song and play. Overcomplicating it with features will surpass its use. However backup/restore of a playlist will be nice indeed.
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] TEKHD:
Nice app... Would be nice to have it as a double tile with playing music displayed on the tile... But... Ahhh is wp7... No way to do that... Yet...Thank you! Really hope this OS limitations end soon with the all mighty mango update.
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] phil_rouge:
Thank's for this update but I have another problem now on my HTC Mozart :

I found a song, I click on it. Download it's on the top of screen but nothing else no music ???
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
@TEKHD:

Totally true, this is not within the possibilities yet as for myself live tiles dont even work ;) also there is no music in the background so its useless :P as of yet. As soon as mango drops I will make it awesome you can take my word on that.

@phil_rouge:

What song? can you tell me exactly the steps so I can replicate. It works fine for me, make sure you are NOT syncing with Zune, since wp7 can not play audio if its syncing with zune (connected trough USB cable and/or syncing wirelessly over wifi on charger)

IMPORTANT:

I found a bug which crashes the app, working on a fix now! sorry for this, I rushed out the previous release!
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
CRITICAL UPDATE: View attachment WalkMan7_v2.1.5.xap

Fixes a ****load of crashbugs, they can still be present... so please report detailed instructions when a crash occurs with version 2.1.5

2.1.2 did not work on 3G, 2.1.5 does. Sorry for the confusion

Enjoy!
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] phil_rouge:
:) yes i was sync with zune now it's ok thank's !
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] pencilcase:
loving the app, hope it gets submitted though :)
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
Thought that was the problem. Glad it works for you!

@pencilcase

Thanks a lot :) yeah I submitted a buggy version by accident. If it will get trough Ill try to get a stable version trough...

But I dont think MS will let it pass, it seems they increased their stance against these types of apps (although youtube downloaders are legal and apps a like, its its kind of a crooked regulation)...

Stability update (version 2.1.7):

Mirror WalkMan7_v2.1.7_STABILITY_UPDATE.xap - 0.58MB

fixes a bug when deleting a file while downloading something. Improves general stability. Unfortunately there are still some crash situations, Im trying to isolate and cancel them out 1 by 1... Im testing and abusing the app in every possible way :)
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] B4PJS:
Just downloaded the app from your last post (WalkMan7_v2.1.7_STABILITY_UPDATE.xap) and installed it. On the about menu it is saying v.2.0.0 and a search for "eminem" is showing no results :-s
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
Yeah was too lazy to change the version number in about screen.

Indeed eminem does not return results. Slim shady does return a few. Most of the time you will have more luck with typing part of the title.

I have no control over the search engine nor what the guys remove from it. It contains a lot of songs but searching can be pretty innacurate. Its something we have to deal with...

Probably some record labels demand the removal of everything which contains "eminem" however songs uploaded misspelled like "eminen" will remain and it will find those sometimes if the title matches.

"emineN" returned 83 results :)

It is what it is, I personally wish the search engine was better too woukd have saved me a lot of tweaking efforts as well
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] jjm001:
Hey guys,

Sorry if this was asked before but....being a regular WP7 user, I am not aware of any mods and hacks.

May I know how do you install these .xap files on your phones? Is there any jailbreak / flashing involved?
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] dxdy:
must have developer unlocked (free for students or 99$) or jailbreaked (with Chewron) phone
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
Oke people some good news :)

I worked on a remote update of the app.

It is cloud based and I can remotely set the update timing for the next update after each update... Ill need some bugtesters ofcourse :)

What this new feature will mean is that when ever the service breaks down Ill just have to upload a new settings XML file and the users will have to wait until the update time is over :) or reinstalling the app will get the immediate update.

This will save all of us a lot of work on redeploying etc.

So far my tests have been succesfull, however corrupted xmls fail ofcourse, so I myself have to make sure I keep the xml in the correct template.

The xml's are uploaded to a free 3rd party host totally annonymous, but its not very reliable. However this host seems to have a good uptime so chances are good it will work just fine. If it fails... it will just reattempt on the next restart of the app.

I will need 2 people to beta test. Ill break the app remotely on purpose and than Ill let it work again an hour later.
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] Marvin_S:
-- Beta version removed. In awaiting of version 3.0 --

Doing some final testing. Version 3.0 should be up soon :)

Features:

- Lots of stability improvements

- Multipleplaylists

- Remote auto-updates (just in case it breaks):

If the app gets broken for what ever reason, I can remotely repair it. The app will start working again after the first update cycle (at the moment its set to every 24 hours, this might be changed down the road).

Note: the updates will happen on a fifo basis, however by reinstalling the app you can force the update to the newest version. Updates will only happen in case it breaks down.

It will be released asap (waiting for the peeps in Redmond ;) )