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[Defy General] wizard123:
Yes only the earpiece came away from the casing using the method i applied but again i can't swear by the membrane as it could possibly be different with other variants of the phone ( although i doubt it ).

And plus for me atleast, i'd rather have a working phone than a waterproof phone ( just me though )

I am nearly certain its an actual defect with the earpieces because if you blow the earpiece with some canned air it will function for 5-10 seconds before going off again.

I do think there may be a problem with both the connections and earpieces though as the way the oem connections are designed in the Defy for the earpiece contacts are piss poor, excuse my french lol. :D
[Defy General] technome:
Well, I'm sending my Defy in for repair today, after my earpiece started playing-up intermittently over the weekend. I tried to insist on a replacement but Motorola's support team were adamant that a repair is my only option under the terms of my warranty. Ah, well. I've got a spare phone.

That said, I will likely "paint" the earpiece connections upon its return and it's good to know that the K850i part works. I may buy a couple as a precaution.
[Defy General] wizard123:
That sucks man sorry to hear that, it seems to be not if it will happen but when it will happen with these earpieces, yep motorola sucks for customer support to be fair. I hope your phone comes back ok though, alot of people have had it repair only for it to fail again a few weeks later.
[Defy General] sp8y:
Can I just double check which seller you got yours from as I've had a look on ebay & the three that are for sale look different styles - unless the pics are not of actual items?

Cheers :)
[Defy General] wizard123:
The actual one i used is this one :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300370841729&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

There is an actual motorola one that has the same terminals as the original but ( my opinion i would not trust another earpiece from them ) :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220640434368&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

I wouldnt worry too much if they look slightly different aslong as they are for the k850i as it will most likely be because they are from different manufacturers

Hope that helps :)
[Defy General] sp8y:
That's great thanks very much :)

Might just order one to keep as you never know when it'll stop working.
[Defy General] shad0wboss:
I had my earpiece replaced by the company, you should really send it to motorola and don't mess around with the device.
[Defy General] wizard123:
I would agree Shadow except for people who either have no support for the device or their devices are out of warranty, which is the reason i posted the how to as motorola claimed my device was out of warranty.
[Defy General] scrannel:
I believe there is yet another post (on this forum) where someone repaired their earpiece merely by slipping a couple of pieces of "foil" into the contact area claiming the speaker is not defective at all, but the contact area can be insufficient. Which seems borne out by those who were twisting their phones and temporarily getting their speakers to work. Also, one of the pieces you took out (again, yet another post) should be replaced and not reused.
[Defy General] wizard123:
Yes as i did say earlier the contact area is very poor, but i did attempt to fix this before replacing the earpiece but it was a no go and found as some others have that if you blow hard into the actual earpiece ( blowing the metal plate inside the earpiece back into contact with itself inside would cause it to work again for a few seconds ) leading me to believe there may actually be 2 issues with these not one single problem.

Interested to know what this piece is as i have no issues since repairing the phone.

Cheers
[Defy General] scrannel:
Hey Wizard, can't recall where I saw this, maybe have just been the gasket. And you probably don't have to even take that out.
[Defy General] wizard123:
Ahh yea if your talking about the red rubber gasket around the edge of the casing it stays where it is no need to remove it :)
[Defy General] scrannel:
As I recall, it is supposed to be replaced if the "seal" is broken (opened). In other words even if not removed. Which is usual precaution for a rubberized gasket. But, that's probably if you take it for a shower often.
[Defy General] SimboXXX:
Thanks for the tutorial. If i can get hold of one of those SE earpieces, I will give it a go, rather than send it off to service.
[Defy General] wizard123:
No problem hope all goes well for you, like i said the info i supplied is simply an attempt to help others with the same problem as there was nothing else floating around on the net that i could find helpful. ;)
[Defy General] mikkiespi:
Thanks

Thanks wizard123

This is a very usefull information.

Motorola told me, that my defy is out of warranty because i changed the room, so this is my only solution.

I manage to open the defy and try to fix the original earpiece with no luck...so i just order the SE earpiece yesterday...thanks to your info i will try to repair it.

I will let you know if it works after :)

As i said before, thanks for your usefull info.

Miguel

Spain
[Defy General] SimboXXX:
@wizard123

I found this earpiece locally, it looks different from the one in your pictures. It is also more expensive than the model you used but I can't get that one locally (still only cost a couple of quid). I can't tell from the picture, though, whether it has the springy connectors.
[Defy General] JostVice:
This sounds interesting, because if motorola's new phones keep failing, the only solution can be this, but does it work correctly? any problem?
[Defy General] technome:
A couple of updates:

I'm tracking my Defy through Motorola's repair facility and it's now in final testing with the fault showing as "Audio-earpiece-no". This in spite of a non-standard ROM being loaded. I'll hopefully get back early next week.

I ordered a couple of K850i earpieces just in case and they arrived today. One appears to have a piece glued to it. Pictures below. If it fails again I'll repair it myself!
[Defy General] wizard123:
The connectors on that look ok should be fine to use from my experience :)
[Defy General] wizard123:
Since i repaired mine myself with the sony ericsson earpiece i can say i have had no issues at all, the quality is crystal clear better than the original imho.
[Defy General] Semseddin:
I've fixed mine but i kept the original earpiece cause it should be wiser to use original part instead using parts from other brands. What i did briefly, putting some solder on top of the speaker connections so the contacts would have no problem.

IT WORKS LIKE A CHARM, NO NEED TO SEND THE PHONE TO MOTOROLA IF YOU'RE OUT OF WARRANTY.

ps : check the resistance of the original speaker first to see if it works. If it doesn't, then find a K850 or whatever earpiece :)
[Defy General] wizard123:
Well said, as i stated before i believe there are two issues ( some with contact problems and some with actual faulty earpieces ) although worthy of noting that my earpiece showed up fine on resistance test but still didnt work unless blown into very hard ( seemed as tho the front plate inside the earpiece was loose ) so still needed replacing.

I also kept the original even tho moto says out of warranty
[Defy General] danielck78:
I have an old Sony Ericsson K800. Do u think the earpiece will work on defy?
[Defy General] wizard123:
No the K800 earpieces are too chunky and short to fit into the defy.:(
[Defy General] mikkiespi:
Thanks wizard

I fixed my defy following your tutorial...i bought K850i and i replaced the motorola earpice, it works perfect...i think even sounds better than the motorola earpice.

Thanks again!!
[Defy General] wizard123:
Exellent, really glad this walk through has help people ( i too found the call quality to be an improvement to the original ) no problem, just a shame a mod has not stickied this thread so it dont get lost for others ;)
[Defy General] pijes:
since there is a replacement parts for the speaker now, how about a replacement for the screws?
[Defy General] danielck78:
I replaced my Defy earpiece with SE K500i earpiece. So far so good. Thanks for the guide. There is a video in youtube on dis-assembly of defy. Really help too ----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uSH1UuEOvI
[Defy General] feroz2u:
got my earpiece prblm fixed by replacing with SE K550i earpiece.Now working like a charm.
[Defy General] danielck78:
Correction, mine is also K550i
[Defy General] technome:
Finally had my Defy returned by Motorola after nearly 3 weeks. It's now got a blue dot on the label, which is nice, but I'm not planning on keeping it.

I moved to the Defy when my iPhone took a tumble and it needed an expensive repair. There's a lot to be said for a relatively cheap, rugged handset and, had I not had this hardware issue, I would likely have continued using it and sold my iPhone after a couple of months. The trouble is, I've been using the iPhone again while I've been awaiting my Defy's return and the comparison has forced me to realise just how superior the iPhone, iOS and Apple's attitude to customer service really are.

Anyway, I've found a good, rugged case for my (jailbroken) iPhone now so I'm keeping it. I've had fun trying out android but it's just not worth the grief with sub-standard hardware, "open" software that's locked down by the manufacturers and the carriers, amazingly sub-standard apps (apart from a few gems) in the market place and google's lackadaisical attitude to security and privacy concerns.

This site has been a great help getting to know android and this thread is a great example of users solving their problems pro-actively, but for me it's not enough.

Ta-ta!
[Defy General] wizard123:
We could look into it but, i have to ask why would you need to replace the screws ?:confused:
[Defy General] rubiotel:
Sorry my bad English

I have asked my headset in China for only $ 1.20:

Headphone Receiver for Sony Ericsson K850 (Black)

focalprice.com

is that correct?
[Defy General] pijes:
Because after I got back my phone from repair, 1 screw was missing. And it would be stupid for me to send it back (which costs a lot of money) just for that damn little screw. I know that defy uses torx t5 screw which also used in some phones nowadays but the length probably not the same.
[Defy General] wizard123:
You could give these a try they look very similar

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/15459-HPI-PUL...ntrolled_JN&hash=item588d05c706#ht_1879wt_905

Or some Nokia ones but look different

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-TORX-T5-SCR...essories_RL&hash=item1e62252b58#ht_1216wt_905
[Defy General] wizard123:
If you mean this one :

http://www.focalprice.com/MI224B/Headphone_Receiver_for_Sony_Ericsson_K850_Black.html

Then yes it should work ok but that particular one looks very low quality so keep that in mind.
[Defy General] SimboXXX:
I fixed mine today. The first earpiece i got (for SE K850/800) didn't fit, but a 2nd SE part did (after a little butchering).

There is a membrane stuck over the earpiece hole which keeps the waterproofing - this can come unstuck when detaching the broken earpiece and so would need to be replaced to maintain water-tightness.
[Defy General] agfrancis:
Hello,

Thanks for sharing your knowledge of how to fix this annoying problem. I just replaced mine with the Sony part that you linked to on ebay.

All working fine with no complications.

Great stuff

Andrew
[Defy General] hitones:
Thank you for the information and link to the ebay seller, saved me alot of hassle... Cheers ;0)
[Defy General] mauri121:
Defy, thanks god =9
[Defy General] ZookNC:
Thank you Wizard123, thank you, thank you, and thank you again! I bought my phone while holidaying in Paris just before Christmas last year and the earpiece broke down two weeks ago just as I was calling the paramedics for a workmate who had fainted. I ordered the new earpiece via ebay and replaced it as per your advice yesterday and my phone is now back in action thanks to you.

Cheers,

Arnaud.
[Defy General] Perilla_:
Well, V3 earpiece is bigger than defys and don't fit.
[Defy General] fakington123:
Just wanted to say a BIG thanks for this - just tried this on mine, and at first I had some issues closing the case, because the k850 earpiece had some tiny plastic lugs which meant it didn't fit in the casing properly. However, trimming about 1 mm off each of these and flipping it 180 degrees clockwise (in case I'd put the polarity in the wrong way around) means that this is now fully working, and I can finally use the Defy as a phone!

Thank you muchly
[Defy General] robiwan kenobi:
Hi!

Thanks for the tutorial. I did replace the earpiece with the one from ebay link. The SE K850 earpiece has side lugs which I trimmed as well. I put it together and thought it's working fine. Unfortunately I have noticed that whilst calling when you take the handset off the ear the screen remains blank, so you can't do anything e.g. break the connection, switch to speaker etc. Have opened it again, flatten the terminals put it back, still no success. The screen turn on only when you push it at the top, left corner. I put back my broken earpiece back - no problem. I have ordered already the V3 earpiece but unfortunately as could read above is to big as well. Please where could I buy the matching one.

Also my Defy's reception ability dropped a lot. Is it a possible consequence of too tick SE earpiece as well?
[Defy General] germandia:
We used K550 earpiece, U only need to cut earpiece "fingers" :D
[Defy General] xtrmshadow:
Argh,

My earpiece stopped functioning all of the sudden yesterday >< ,but i already ordered a k850i few weeks behind so i had one to replace.

Opened the phone,all fine and well,removed the old one...problem for me is that the new one broke as soon as i wanted it to go into place =/

I putted it in the slot,pressed not very hard,and it broke in 2 pieces >_< so i had no choice but the put the old one back in to have smth,and just ordered a new one today.

So i guess it will take a while until the new one comes ,so far ,speakers on i guess =p

So next time i know,first try to cut those 2 bits that are by its left and then fit it in.

Blah =/

Respect
[Defy General] cmvcarlos88:
I ve read some posts and it really works but the only thing I want to know if it the phone, after you open and replace de piece, is it still waterproof? Because here is near summer and probably i ll take some photos inside the pool and i dont want to break the phone. If not, i will send it to repair. Many thanks for the tuto.
[Defy General] arievizta:
I have the same problem .. and I want to fix it yourself like a tutorial on top .. if until now no problem with the earpiece again appears ..?? whether the earpiece K850 in accordance with the earpiece defy ..?? please enlightenment
[Defy General] enzo887:
can anyone post a MACRO photo of defy's earphone slot?

mine had failed two times and after 2nd replace i think that waterproof seal had removed.

ty in advance
[Defy General] jovus:
just finished the procedure. It worked well :)

I've also put a new digitizer, because my old one cracked. Thank you very much for this tutorial, my defy is almost like new :) I won't be testing the waterproof ability, but at least I can make phone calls, and have screen that is not cracked :)
[Defy General] DrMrNo:
Excellent, the method worked like a charm. Thank you!
[Defy General] sferrariba:
i strongly suggest to take it to motorola, phone has a year of warranty!
[Defy General] mindlessdrone:
Thanks Wizard, you genius! The SE earpiece went in (after removing the slightly too wide knobs on the edges with a nail file) and all now works fine again.

Return for warranty repair was a no-go for me as I've installed several 2.2 roms which are undowngradable, so warranty void. Sorry, but waiting eons for 2.2 official release is just retarded! And I certainly wasn't going to put up with waiting weeks for a repair and having no phone. Went from busted earpiece, to SE earpiece delivered from ebay and installed and working again in 3 days. Beat that Motorola. Thanks again Wizard. Did I say you're a genius? Ok once more: U GENIUS!!
[Defy General] Arrgghh:
Hello,

I have made the operation as my earpiece was dead. The earpiece I bought on ebay is this one :

Earpiece For SonyEricsson K850 K850i K770 K770i

http : / / i.ebayimg.com/11/!BvqRomgEGk~$(KGrHqN,!h8Ev1+zy536BMFdd0jBqg~~_35.JPG

I had to file it a little bit to make it fit...

It is now working but the volume is incredibly low. I cannot hear in noisy rooms...

Do you think I should replace the earpiece again or look for a software issue ?

Thanks.
[Defy General] edwardo_machino:
fixed with compressed air. also, keeping the waterproofing?

I blew the hell out of the speaker ear-hole with a can of compressed air, which fixed it. It has been working for the last ten minutes. Testing with voice mail.

Still buzzes a bit though.

The waterproofing question is critical. Can anyone provide a definitive answer on this? I have no problem replacing the speaker but if that gasket gets used up after the phone is opened, I'd want to replace that too. Can anyone source a replacement?

I got the phone due to its waterproof nature, as I work outside and sometimes it rains. If I kill the waterproofing when disassembling...that would be unfortunate.
[Defy General] redijia:
thank you very very much!!
[Defy General] Carnivoro:
jajajajajjajaja
[Defy General] adamscybot:
Tried this with a k850i earpiece. Looks different to the one in the pictures (silver circle on the back).

Didn't work. theres a faint buzz coming from the speaker but no sond. Im worried my problem isn't the earpiece at all.

However this one required significant butchering to get it to fit, and I may have broken it in the process without knowing.

Tried both orientations. Now ordering different type for take #2.
[Defy General] scrannel:
I think there is a "gasket" (black, rubber) that is supposed to be replaced every time the phone is opened.
[Defy General] adamscybot:
I ordered another and got the same bit. However, it worked this time (I was more delicate with it).

I had to file off the 2 side pieces of plastic sticking out and also had to file down (slowly, keep trying to see if it fits) the 2 long sides. I also remove the rubber on the front facing part of the speaker to allow it to go deeper into the housing. You must get it as deep as you can without breaking it, or you will have problems closing the case (its a bit tight even when you do get it to fit) or the proximity sensor reacting wrong (blank screen during calls even when the phone is off your face) because it isnt in its housing correctly as the speaker is preventing it from being so.
[Defy General] cis.snakeman:
Hello all, you can found the "original" earpiece on the bay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...piece+motorola+defy&_sacat=See-All-Categories

Best Regard

SKN
[Defy General] kjckitch:
echoing after replacing earpiece

Hi i have replaced the earpiece in my Defy after reading this post. However now whenever anyone calls me they keep complaining of an echo. I.e. they can hear their own voice a split second after they have spoken!

It gets better if i turn the call volume right down but doesn't disappear. Any ideas?

Also being a heavy handed s*d i have mullered some of the screws on the body. Where can i get replacements?

Thanks

KJC
[Defy General] sonhy:
replacement ebay earpiece broke

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Precise-...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item2a149c6265

i bought the above earpiece and it broke in 2 weeks, most probably after putting the phone under the tap for 30+ seconds.

Just ordered an original MB525 earpiece to test out for when my 2nd K850i earpiece breaks after swimming.

(http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/EARPIECE...191243?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27bc60e50b)

Has anyone water tested the original MB525 earpieces from ebay?

Could these ebay original MB525 earpieces be the faulty batch thrown out by motorola?
[Defy General] wskelly:
Thank you wizard for these steps and photos, this really made me feel much more comfortable about taking apart my Defy that has a crackling earpiece.

HOWEVER, based on my experience (and what looks like the experiences of others here that I should've read), I would not recommend that anyone use the Nokia earpiece and instead get the stock Motorola replacement. Here is what happened to me:

1. Purchased two Nokia k850i earpieces on eBay after reading this post.

2. Opened the phone and extracted the original earpiece.

3. Tried to insert the k850i, found

it does not fit

(mine had the circle on the back also) without modification.

4. Noted that the spring tabs on the back of the Nokia earpiece are *not* compatible with the same spring tabs that are on the motherboard of the phone. That is, the flat contacts on the stock earpiece are intentional and by design.

5. The contact positioning is not ideal. With the Nokia earpiece in place, despite the fact that you are mating a spring with a spring as #4 above, you can visually see that the speaker will barely make contact with the MB contacts.

Best action is to purchase the ORIGINAL earpiece as replacement, they are all over eBay. Motorola did identify a manufacturing defect in some of the earpieces so the OEM replacement is the best bet here.

Wizard, based on the comments of others here in the thread, I think you should modify your post and suggest that others read the responses here first. Your post comes up on an ebay search for "defy earpiece replacement":

http://www.google.com/search?q=defy...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

First search result:

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/how-to-replace-your-motorola-defy-earpiece/

The above article links to a SINGLE POST which does not show all of the user feedback here.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12094566&postcount=11

But I say all of this very respectfully, wizard, because without users like you who take the time to take photos and pioneer hardware fixes like this, there would probably be a lot more phones in the recycle bin, so thank you very much for your efforts and I'm glad the k850i piece worked for you... but it may not be a solution for everyone.
[Defy General] Quillin:
I did the earpiece swap in the summer and afterwards took some underwater swimming pool photos. No problem at all. I used K850i earpiece I bought on eBay for two pound.
[Defy General] balek:
K850i does not fit in my defy green lens ( http://www.blueunplugged.com/Sony-Ericsson-K850i-Earpiece.aspx )

I will try OEM MB525

Y should open your defy first to see the speaker and buy one with the same shape.
[Defy General] ziki:
Hey guys!

I've ordered a k850i earpiece to replace my broken one...but it is not the right one!

Actually if you search for a k850i earpiece they sell you this one:

that is different from the one in the photos in post #11! Also in dimension!

I think that the right one is the one for K550 W610 W350 K770, because if you search for it now, they sell you this one:

that seems the one in the photos in this post.

Hope this help.
[Defy General] Mr. Beck:
Great stuff, this guide.

I fixed my Defy today following wizard's tutorial - thanks to the Russians for being so adventurous.

But it wasn't just a case of swopping one earpiece for the other.

No! that would have been too easy.

The K850i earpiece that I bought required significant butchering - it was too long, too wide and too thick.

I used a hobby knife to trim it, although I think using a nail file (as mentioned by some) would have been smarter.

It looks like there are various earpieces for sale - and all are for the K850i.

It seems to be a matter of luck which earpiece you receive. And consequently, how much chopping and adjusting you have to do.

But it's worth it :-)

@ wizard123, Thanks again!!
[Defy General] TomHL:
i'm not sure i can handle this