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[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
Ok, first of all, this is not a rom. Thats not needed in this case, because with linux more installations can share the same kernel. Android has a linux kernel, ubuntu has one. Google for chroot

This is not an attemp to replace android, just to enhance it a bit

In this state it's just something like a technical preview. Give me a few days. For now only advanced linux users wich understands whats happening there can do something with it.

Concerning a minimal ubuntu, this is now a minimal installation.

Regards
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
After unity 2d is not really working at this moment, I'm actually preparing a version with icewm and lxde. Post will come in a few hours.

Regards
[Xoom Android Development] tom_m:
What about Enlightenment?

http://www.linuxuk.org/2010/02/the-new-ui-for-arm-based-ubuntu-devices/
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
i'm installing it. lets see.

the reason why it's still not posted, i have a problem with the xstartup file of tightvnc. for some reason it is not running the commands for the ui, so there is just an empty xserver in vnc until i start icewm lxde manually. i think it would be the same with efl, and i had until today to less time to check out whats wrong.

edit: netbook-launcher-efl + metacity + maximus is looking fine
[Xoom Android Development] tom_m:
Is there any way to not use VNC? Can you dual boot or otherwise get into X ?
[Xoom Android Development] tom_m:
or possibly something like freenx client on android maybe??? in hopes that it's faster than vnc. if we can't boot into ubuntu.

edit - scratch that, i read you need X to use freenx... kinda defeats the point there.

i thought there was something else though that fowards all the window data over like lightning fast.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
I found until now two possibilities but both needs much work. First taking the wayland xserver client and port it to android, or port weirdx to android.
[Xoom Android Development] tom_m:
Hmm... so back to the dual boot question... What about something like this guy did?

http://androidforums.com/samsung-i7500/81090-debian-dualboot.html

https://code.google.com/p/linux-on-android/wiki/BasicSteps

Would that also work on the XOOM?
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
Me personally, I'm not interested in another Linux Distri as main System

1. I would miss the android functionallity and feel, because of that I would never boot Ubuntu.

2. Only android has the needed touch support for a tablet. Maybe this changes i future ubuntu releases.

Because of that my primary target is a more seamless integration of a ubuntu subsystem in android, so we can use many beloved functions without much work. So there is the best of both worlds in the same time avaliable.
[Xoom Android Development] tom_m:
Makes sense. My motivation for research and all this is that I want to do (light) web development and server administration on the tablet as well. Of course, buying that bluetooth keyboard makes it all feasible and I'm not looking to do heavy amounts of work on it, but I want to ditch my netbook. For starters, the tablet lasts longer in terms of battery life and the form factor is better.

Other than that, to me, tablets serve merely as an entertainment purpose (unless maybe you're using it to bill people or for a sales pitch/meeting) and I can't justify the cost. A $600 travel Scrabble is retarded. So I think tablets need something like Ubuntu running on them in order for them to be a more productive device that is a justifiable expense.

Right now the biggest thing that I'm thinking about is gedit and git. If I can get those two... Then I think I'd be pretty much set. I think there's actually two or three text editors for Android as is and I might be able to use those provided I could get git for Android.

The graphical user interface isn't the most important thing so I can even live w/o the VNC. Having a local webserver would be rad, but not a high priority since I can use git to update a server on the net.

If you have any ideas, and I know it's getting somewhat off topic, but your research is really the crux of my situation...I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

--edit ok, so i found www.cloud9ide.com which will cover me I guess. but still I want more power under the hood. I really appreciate your work efforts! Thanks.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
updated useful for people which knows whats going on
[Xoom Android Development] idkwhothatis123:
deleted. got it. Thanks! this is awesome. great work!
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
you will not loose anything, other question is if it works.
[Xoom Android Development] zehkaiser:
i have tried installing this about 4 times now. Every time I am installing I see errors about directories that are not present inside the Ubuntu folder. I assume the install should create the folders, but it isn't? Whenever I get to the desktop using vnc I can never write any files. Always says the file system is read-only.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
post the errors you get
[Xoom Android Development] zehkaiser:
These directories are not there. Should I just make them before running the script? I'm not sure if my other errors are caused by these not being created.

$ export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH
$ su
# cd /sdcard/ubuntu
# sh ubuntu install
cat: can't open '/mnt/sdcard/ubuntu/conf/fspath': No such file or directory
cat: can't open '/mnt/sdcard/ubuntu/conf/fstype': No such file or directory
DEBUG: remounting /system for readwrite
installing ubuntu script
installed, next time just type ubuntu [command] from where you like, don't forget to su before
DEBUG: remounting /system for readonly
do you want to use a default image,
an exiting partition
or the old image?
default(just press enter),existing (p)artition,(o)ld
[Xoom Android Development] :
Are we supposed to be doing this all from the device? If so, I've downloaded the ubuntu .zip and extracted the Ubuntu folder to the External (SDCARD) directory.

I opened up Terminal Emulator and typed cd /sdcard/external/ubuntu/ubuntu (there is a ubuntu folder within the ubuntu folder) and hit enter

Typed in: su

then

sh ubuntu install

I get an error that says:

ioctl LOOP_SET_FD failed: Bad file number

ubuntu: /mount/sdcard/ubuntu/tools/ubuntu: not found

What am I doing wrong? Is it a kernel issue? I'm using a Tiamet kernel v1.4.2BRDizzled. Did I place the files on the wrong folder in the SD card? I'm using Root Explorer by the way and changed it to R/W. Thanks in advance.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
@zehkaiser

the both can't find... are ok. that is only the try to remove files from an old install if existing.

@gqstatus0685

extract to /sdcard/ubuntu not /sdcard/external/ubuntu and also not an ubuntu folder inside of an ubuntu folder
[Xoom Android Development] :
Awesome. I'm installing now but it's taking long (obviously) while tethering via 3G.
[Xoom Android Development] xoppaw:
I have the files downloaded and extracted to /sdcard/ubuntu, but when i try to run the installer i get this

# su
# sh ubuntu install
ubuntu: /system/bin/mount: not found
ubuntu: /mnt/sdcard/ubuntu/tools/ubuntu: not found
#

I am running the Tiamat 1.4.4 Kernel on a wifi only xoom.

Anyone else seeing this?
[Xoom Android Development] :
I'm doing the step for the resolution.

Resolution Configure Update is here:

download: http://www.bisme.net/update_b1_b2.zip

extract it into /sdcard/ubuntu folder

open a terminal, su, go to that folder, ubuntu start, and run

Code:

sh update

reboot and finished, now with

Code:

ubuntu config

you can reconfigure your vnc resolution

I got to the reboot prompt in the Terminal. When it turned back on I tried to run ubuntu config and nothing happens.

I did:

su

cd /sdcard/ubuntu/update_b1_b2

ubuntu config

I get that message like the guy above me:

/mnt/sdcard/ubuntu/tools/ubuntu: not found
[Xoom Android Development] :
Are you using Root Explorer? Make sure your system is R/W not R/O. Also make sure that you don't have an Ubuntu folder with another Ubuntu folder in it. I had that problem. Just move the folder out of itself and put it on the SD card.
[Xoom Android Development] xoppaw:
I verified all of that. I hadn't been using Root explorer, but i made sure the file system was R/W and there are no other ubuntu folders on my sdcard or external sdcard.

Even with this i am still recieving the same message.
[Xoom Android Development] :
I managed to get it all installed and did the resolution update. I have Wyse PocketCloud VNC and it works great until I rebooted. I have a couple of questions.

1. I don't know how to enter Ubuntu after a reboot. Do I have to run terminal commands after every reboot?

2. When I first booted into Ubuntu through VNC I didn't have an internet browser. How do I get it?

3. Can I install OpenOffice?

I'm trying to do the other updates (b2_b3 and b3_b4) and I'm getting errors of it not being able to find files. I extracted it, when into the extracted folder, copied the folders (b2_b3 and b3_b4) and threw it into the ubuntu folder and did su, cd'd and tried to run the commands and it won't work. What's wrong?

Thanks in advance.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
read in op concerning

ubuntu start

ubuntu vnc

and all the other commands.

the updates you need to apply after ubuntu is started or it will not find what it needs for update

concerning ther browser, after the next update + an own kernel based on tiamat 1.4.4 chromium-browser will work

concerning openoffice... libreoffice shoild already be installed, if not install... it works well

openoffice itself is deprecated, libreoffice is its official replacement (only the name changed, its still the same)
[Xoom Android Development] :
It's not working. My SD card is mounted as R/W. I entered

su

cd /sdcard/ubuntu

ubuntu start

I get an error message that says :

# ubuntu start

ioctl LOOP_SET_FD failed: Device or resource busy

/system/bin/ubuntu: /mnt/sdcard/ubuntu/tools/ubuntu: not found

I'm confused. I'm sorry for all the questions. By the way when I booted into Ubuntu yesterday I couldn't get past the Ubuntu One screen. The toolbar at the top was missing. In regards to your response you're saying that this will not come with a browser until the next update?

Also when I was able to get into Ubuntu I didn't see liboffice installed. I will try again and see if I can figure it out in the meantime. It would be cool if someone can make a video.
[Xoom Android Development] imbonez9:
Error I'm having

I currently have two different VNC's install and yet I'm still getting this error after I type in

# ubuntu vnc
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
hmmm... you have both the problem that the loop device is for some reason busy. try to reboot your xoom and ubuntu start direct after.
[Xoom Android Development] :
I rebooted and it still doesn't work. Am I supposed to cd before doing: ubuntu start or just su then ubuntu start?

Isb t a problem with my kernel?
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
just su

i do not think thats a problem with your kernel. but this weekend i'll bring an update and also a kernel. wait for that.
[Xoom Android Development] :
Ok cool. Yeah it doesn't work with su and then ubuntu start. I guess I'll just wait until this weekend to do that. Thanks for your work and help.
[Xoom Android Development] imbonez9:
Any chance of a version of this with blackbuntu? Or just Ubuntu is going to happen. Not sure its possible but have you also looked into dual booting with this?
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
concerning blackbuntu... i think this makes no sense

concerning the promised update at the weekend... i build a wall with my parents

but now it's here, see in op post. read carefully

concerning dualboot... this is my next try, but before i need to work a bit on a project which makes live easier for people testing around with bootimages, so me when I dev the dualboot system ;)
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
interesting, but this problem is limited to nautilus. in the console you'll have no problem. i'll track this problem and try if kde works better :D
[Xoom Android Development] :
I still can't get it to work. I installed the new kernel in the first post through recovery. I opened up terminal and followed the steps.

I'm getting error:

su

cd /sdcard/ubuntu

sh ubuntu install

ioctl LOOP_SET_PD failed: Device or resource buys

ubuntu: /mnt/sdcard/tools/ubuntu: not found
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
you have a problem with your loop devices. that needs to get fixed before it can work. it seems that something uses the one the installation wanta to use to. do you have something special installed? encryption software or so.
[Xoom Android Development] :
I just finished uninstalling some apps. I'm rebooting and I'll see if that works. The weird thing is that I was able to VNC before and after the reboot it never worked again. I flashed the updated kernel by the way.
[Xoom Android Development] Shadomastr:
I've had this same problem.
[Xoom Android Development] :
By the way I want to add that when I installed that kernel it causes my Xoom to turn off randomly when I put the Xoom to sleep. It then takes a while for the power button to respond and turn back on. I have to keep pressing it for it to power on. The problems started when I flashed the kernel.

I didn't flash the stock images before doing that so I don't know if that's the problem.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
recognized, a new kernel is on the way
[Xoom Android Development] :
Cool. Thanks for the fast response.
[Xoom Android Development] fcoco32:
ubuntu: line 11: /system/bin/mount: not found

ubuntu: line 14: /mnt/sdcard/ubuntu/tools/ubuntu: not found

This is the message I get when I try to Ubuntu install can someone please help.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
did you su before?
[Xoom Android Development] fcoco32:
Yes CD /sdcard/Ubuntu

Su

Sh Ubuntu install
[Xoom Android Development] :
I think it's:

su

cd /sdcard/ubuntu

ubuntu install

Make sure you placed the ubuntu files in the correct location. Also I always make sure that the SDcard is mounted as R/W. You can mount it using a file explorer.
[Xoom Android Development] fcoco32:
I tried it that way to and still no joy.
[Xoom Android Development] stiffspliff:
try redownloading the ubuntu_b5.zip from ur pc and unzipping it before moving it to ur xoom
[Xoom Android Development] starfox1:
Same problem here
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
kernel updated, see op post where the old was
[Xoom Android Development] :
Thanks I'm going to install it now. Are we close to having a flashable install from CWM? I would love that.
[Xoom Android Development] fcoco32:
Still having same problem after install and unzip on my PC.
[Xoom Android Development] bug_nuts:
i am guessing this does not work with 1.1, new rom?
[Xoom Android Development] imbonez9:
i dunno... I still having issues, so I stopped.
[Xoom Android Development] :
I deleted the ubuntu folder and files and attempted to start over again. I still get those boot loop errors in terminal when I attempt sh install ubuntu.

I'm giving up until someone comes out with a flashable install; hopefully soon.
[Xoom Android Development] fcoco32:
You can not be on either tiamat Tom. Has to be rooted stock.
[Xoom Android Development] :
I'm rooted stock and can't get it to work. I keep getting loop busy errors and can't figure it out. It's killing me.
[Xoom Android Development] tillum:
Similar issues to whats been posted, cant find sdcard/ubuntu/tools/ubuntu.

Well, looking in the ubuntu/tools directory, only file is "dummy". I think someone has made a mistake with the latest Ubuntu files posted up to unzip. Is this the case?
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
no, that means the mount of the tools image failed
[Xoom Android Development] Shadomastr:
Evereything is working great for me. I'm running the tiamat kernal in the original post. However, a few days ago my keyboard suddenly began to behave oddly. For instance, when I click "L", it takes me to my android calendar and other keys do similiar shortcuts. The fact that it takes me to my android calendar and not my ubuntu calendar tells me that whatever I did in ubuntu altered my keyboard settings in android. Does anyone have a clue why this would happen? It began shortly after I got my bluetooth mouse set up. Also, is there a way to boot into unity? Mine only boots into classic.
[Xoom Android Development] tillum:
Oh, right. Am running cm7 on nexus one. Problem is no mount commans. Will post back when I fix this.
[Xoom Android Development] :
I had the same issue. I would be typing a text message and then the SyncSMS app would close and I'd be ina another app. Its erysipelas annoying. Could it be kernel related?
[Xoom Android Development] Kevterminator:
Request: Anyone please update these Files to Tiamat 2.0.1 (include chroot in the kernel and what else is needed) I would love to have Ubuntu again :/
[Xoom Android Development] :
"Kernel from http://www.bisme.net/xoom_mz600_2.6....oid-chroot.zip (install it via clockworkmod here "

If I install that kernel, does it wipe anything?
[Xoom Android Development] :
Anyone? I'd love to try Ubuntu on a tablet.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
no, the kernel will not wipe your system. but it's only working with 3.1
[Xoom Android Development] schnoz:
This sounds great. I just got my xoom and I love the idea of Ubuntu on it. I'll probably wait until everything is updated for 3.2 as I am on 3.2 with the Tiamat 2.0.1 ROM/Kernel.

Keep up the good work, though. This is wonderful.
[Xoom Android Development] :
Thanks! I'll wait for the 3.2-version then.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
There will be no 3.2 version. Ubuntu in a chroot env is a bit s*****

Next ubuntu from here will run aside of android in a multiboot env.

But this will take a while, there are a lot things I need to play with.
[Xoom Android Development] schnoz:
Well ill definitely look forward to that. Good luck.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
What you can do in the meantime: You need not the kernel for Ubuntu. A few things will not work, others like Libreoffice will.
[Xoom Android Development] floomat:
nice, looking forward to the dual/multiboot system! have thought about this today but im not a dev and have no idea how to set it up! :D
[Xoom Android Development] :
How is this going? I really, really want to use *buntu on my Xoom 3.2
[Xoom Android Development] joshndroid:
+1 million lol
[Xoom Android Development] earl00:
USB host within chroot?
[Xoom Android Development] :
Why is this project dead? There must be some way to get Ubuntu working on our Xoom?
[Xoom Android Development] :
Come on, even the Asus Transformer and Galaxy Tab have a native Ubuntu working already. Why are we so lagging behind? It's not like the Xoom has just a few devs and is very impopular. In fact, we have many devs around here and the Xoom is popular. So if the EEE and Tab can have Ubuntu, why can't we?
[Xoom Android Development] nebenezer:
i got this running on my xoom tonight. Despite the slow dev lately I'm very excited about this.

I would LOVE to see a dual or stand alone install and am more than happy to be a guinea pig :)

I'm running hammethead, the kernel in the op soft bricks me :( so I guess if i want the multicast love I'll have to roll back.. if I did that would the browser work?

Firefox won't even open. Chromium browser opens but won't show anything but a white page.. but synaptic is online so I know I have an internet connection.

I hope this picks back up :) please let me know if there's anything I can do to help!

*edit- Epiphany Browser works great, but I'm battling the "d" key, haven't read this whole thread yet, i hope to find a fix for that one..
[Xoom Android Development] Shadomastr:
To fix the d key problem go into preferences, keyboard shortcuts. For some reason the d key is set to a shortcut. Just adjust the shortcut to be alt or something you won't use.
[Xoom Android Development] :
Wow, what is this crappy dev-section? Why does almost any other tablet has Ubuntu running already and we got none? And the Xoom is supposed to be a hackers device due to the open bootloader for the first time at Motorola and covering up most tablet-sales in the USA? I'm happy with my Xoom, but seeing almost every other tablet out there with Ubuntu up and running already makes me feel ashamed and dissapointed that I have a Xoom. Even the HP TP had Ubuntu up and running before the big sale and before that sale they had not even half of the devs we have here.

Come on devs, you're doing a great job on custom Android-ROMS, now focus Ubuntu. It's easy to do on other tablets, even the Asus and Acer which have nearly the same specs as the Xoom. So come on devs, PLEASE FOCUS ON UBUNTU NOW!
[Xoom Android Development] brianhaden:
Do you really think spilling your private emotions on a dew forum is going to speed things up? I mean, c'mon dude. No dev is now going "hmmm he's right, I do need to pick this up" just because you want it so badly. Either be patient or go out and acquire the knowledge yourself.
[Xoom Android Development] nebenezer:
Are you trying to kill this thread?

If native Ubuntu is such a priority for you then I suggest one of the following options:

Sell the xoom you are ashamed to own, but do it with some anonymous web ID so no one discovers your shame and posts it all over YouTube and Facebook. Then buy whatever other tablet runs full Ubuntu, one you can be proud to own.. the kind of tablet you can be seen holding in public with no fear of being judged because you can only run Ubuntu in a vnc.

Do it yourself.

Offer to help the people that are actually capable of doing this. Rather than flame and insult the very people that may actually be working on this why don't you try asking if this project is even still on anyone's back burner and if so what are the hurdles..

Wait patiently and focus on those things in your own life that prevent you from spending time becoming smart enough to pull this off yourself.
[Xoom Android Development] :
"the kind of tablet you can be seen holding in public with no fear of being judged because you can only run Ubuntu in a vnc."

Like I said: other tablets run Ubuntu NATIVE. So no VNC.

And I have not have the time to do it myself. My new school starts tomorrow.

But I want to help. I'm a tester. So if anyone actually made something usable, then I would test it. But this project seems dead now.

And according to many people in this thread, they all want Ubuntu on here. So I don't see the problem to push it a bit. Sometimes you have to push things to get work done.

Now if only 1 dev picks this up, then I'll help test immediatly.
[Xoom Android Development] joshndroid:
i would definitely support a dual boot.. but i have no idea how to do it myself... as with the fellow who is pushing this i would test aswell but i an no direct pusher i am expressing my favouritism to the idea though; i just think of my laptop and to get some of the good functionality (like being about to leave my massive laptop at home to use ubuntu at uni and then boot back into android for pretty much everything else would be AWESOME) =]
[Xoom Android Development] yalkowni:
How did you get touchscreen working on this beaCause the gt10.1 has no touchscreen
[Xoom Android Development] :
To the devs: maybe this'll help?

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100

The AC100 is also Tegra2 and also Android-booting. So maybe with a few customizations it'll work on our Xoom?
[Xoom Android Development] treyatl2006:
I for one would love to see this project completed. Who were the people who were working on it?
[Xoom Android Development] evonate:
Me too...this needs to happen. I would donate!
[Xoom Android Development] :
I would too donate (apart from being a tester ;)).
[Xoom Android Development] Htimez2:
One click would be awesome

It would be so cool if someone could make a one click program for installing Ubuntu, this is just way to many steps and a little complicated for what would be a casual Ubuntu user. But thanx for your hard work, I know you've been at this for a while.