yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire Android Development] 777ace:
I'm sorry? I like this ROM...why would I want to change?? I really wouldn't give a flying frig if robo had left (which he clearly hasn't), I'd still have this ROM on my phone.

How 'bout you go fudge yourself?
[Desire Android Development] MattBooth:
Eh, give the guys a break. Robo said he'd update at the end of July, we're now a month later and no update.

Whereas wmjam has updated VERY recently with a much more polished and snappier version of this ROM:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=988570

Robocik seems to have abandoned this ROM and all work seems to be going on with the InsertCoin ROM instead.

It's not trolling, it's just stating facts. This is a great ROM but it's lacking much needed updates.

I suggest everyone try the ROM I posted. You want the 2.3.3 ROM unless you want 3D. I haven't tried 3D yet, but the 2.3.3 is using SNQ's Official 2.3.3 Bravo Kernel. It's VERY quick. I was impressed with the speed over the v2.0 ROM we have here, and this v2.0 ROM is fantastic, so yeah, try the one I just posted.
[Desire Android Development] dani_vh92:
This is one of the best roms for the HTC Desire.

I think still one of the best.

Sad that we don´t know anything about Robo.
[Desire Android Development] k3lcior:
He is posting every day in Sensation forums, try asking here. :p
[Desire Android Development] 777ace:
Thanks for the link Kryten...except, ummm.....it kinda links straight back to THIS thread :D Ooops!!

I think you were meaning this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1110921
[Desire Android Development] lloyd haber:
Mobile Network Internet

Hey everyone, I love this rom... snippy little rom I must say!

I wanted to ask if anyone else if having problems with the mobile network switching off suddenly, or a lot of times it just tells me connection failed for like 3 minutes of trying to switch on and off... I never had this problem from other roms I installed so i doubt this is a carrier problem... can anyone pls advise?
[Desire Android Development] ZeGuitarist:
That looks like a really shifty ROM, and the developer looks hardly credible. I don't see how this guy could have done a better job on robo's ROM than robo himself. I'll stick around until robo gets around to polishing this up - he said he would, and I'll gladly believe him! Rather than trusting this wmjan's "borrowed" work, anyway.

And even if an update is a long way away, why should we move on to another ROM? Is this one really that badly in need of an update? Are there really that many problems with it? Because I haven't noticed any, so I don't see the need for an update just for the sake of one.
[Desire Android Development] howdid:
Try lees hd rom u will See a big difference......
[Desire Android Development] MattBooth:
Yeah that's the one.

LOL.

Shifty? Trust me, the ROM works fine and is actually better than this one because it's been updated.

He originally took Robocik's v2.0 ROM and added Data2EXT because Robo wouldn't and didn't have time to do it himself. That's it. Nothing shady about it at all.

Then on August 9th, he updated it further to include SNQ's Official 2.3.3 Bravo Kernel, the one derived from the Official HTC 2.3.3 release, like MANY developers are doing (except Robocik, who posts in the Sensation forums daily, but not in the Bravo forums).

tl;dr? You're wrong. The ROM is actually better than this one at the moment. The only differences between this ROM and wmjam's ROM is Data2EXT and the SNQ Kernel (which is what's making this ROM better) Also, wmjam fully recognises other developers who's work he's modified and used in this ROM, especially Robocik.

I don't go around giving bad advice and your posts insinuates that I do, whether you intended on that or not. Try the ROM for yourself and tell me it doesn't feel a whole lot snappier with the new Kernel. And believe me, when Robo actually updates this thread I'll be all over the new release.
[Desire Android Development] ZeGuitarist:
I'm sorry if I offended you because that's not what I meant to convey in my post at all. I'm just a bit wary of a ROM that's been updated by another developer than the original maker.

But you got me wrong - I didn't call wmjan's ROM "shady" because I believe it is of inferior quality. I'm sure it'll be snappy and work very well with snq's new kernel. I called it that because I don't believe in its continued support. Even less so than in the support of this (robo's) ROM.

So, rather than move over to another ROM which I consider to be doubtful to receive further support in the future, I'd rather stay on this ROM and wait for its future update. Robo said it was coming, and his word is as good as a guarantee to me.

That was the point of my whole "shady" comment. Not to offend or insult you in any way. Again, if that's what I did, I apologise.
[Desire Android Development] MattBooth:
No probs. Sorry for coming off angrily!

It's been updated twice since I started using it and the new update is nice :) If Robo comes back I'm sure wmjam will just keep adding D2EXT to whatever Robo releases!
[Desire Android Development] sjknight413:
Why are people still using this rom when it is 2 months out of date? you wont believe the difference if you move over to insertcoin 1.1.2.

robocik has clearly abandoned this so there is no reason to wait. or if you are willing to wait, just try insertcoin in the meantime, you can always nandroid back.
[Desire Android Development] Lothaen:
would be ace to see something like sense 3.5 ported... e.g. the DHD one: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1245938
[Desire Android Development] beanbean50:
coolexe is on the case :)
[Desire Android Development] beanbean50:
agree with you bro, don't get me wrong i'm a great fan of his work and have donated to him many times, but since he brought his Sensation he is making roms for that and who can blame him?

he is such a nice guy and keeps promising updates that never arrive ... conclusion ... he doesn't like to say goodbye :)
[Desire Android Development] Lothaen:
this is what happens with phones sometimes - although perhaps you may get one or two more updates of a port from 3.5 DHD -> 3.5 desire - but eitherway Coolexe and baadnewz seem to keep their mix roms updated :)
[Desire Android Development] bartoloandre98:
but even coolexe im seeing him a bit more busy with his dhd,u cannot blame him but i mean, if we lose him we are DOOMED:( .(Some may say buy a new phone retard but i mean i have a certain bond with my desire and still has alot of juice to offer:P,we passed through beautiful moments and even through sad ones together + it has a sentimental value for me :P)
[Desire Android Development] Lothaen:
well that and its still a perfectly good phone (if you extend the int. storage onto the sd) and not too far off what is still out there - the DHD/sensation doesnt seem a big enough jump from my desire to make me buy a new phone.

will rather wait for end of year/next year and see what ICS htc phones come out
[Desire Android Development] MattBooth:
Why won't anyone listen?

The wmjam ROM is identical to this one and is being supported.
[Desire Android Development] Lord_Quack:
Because quite frankly, I'd rather have the ROM that's by a recognised developer that I know is trustworthy. Not slammin' anyone off, just how I prefer to roll. Besides, waiting for an update isn't that bad... the ROM is almost perfect anyway.
[Desire Android Development] ZeGuitarist:
That was my point as well. Also, it's for Bravo HBOOT, and I'm using CM7v2. And I just don't feel like flashing a new HBOOT just to try out another ROM - one that's pretty much the same as this one - when it renders all my NAND backups null until I revert back to my old HBOOT.

And this too. None of the other ROMs I tried worked as well for me as this one.

For example, I was convinced in this thread to try out InsertCoin while I wait for updates, so I installed it yesterday morning. I noticed no increase in speed, and as I reinstalled all my apps, the ROM mysteriously refused to install 2 of my most used apps... they would install and appear to work fine, but after a reboot they would disappear. Maybe that's because it's a data++ ROM, not A2SD... But at the end of the day, it's a bit of a **** tradeoff to sacrifice some of my favourite apps for a speed increase you can barely notice, if you ask me. So by yesterday afternoon, I was on RCMixS 2.0.1 again.

Stuff like that just makes me realise that I can comfortably keep using this ROM as long as everything I need works the way I've come to expect it to. Why update? Why fix things that ain't broke? I might try LeeDroid's HD port, and maybe wmjan's ROM in the future (though I'd need another bootloader, ugh)... but if they turn out the way all the other ROMs I tried did, I'll just keep coming back here anyway.
[Desire Android Development] MattBooth:
Well neither of you will find out just how WRONG you both are. This ROM isn't perfect. I thought it was until I installed the one with updates kernel.

Being a recognised developer means NOTHING as well. All that means is they've been doing it for a while. How the hell is anyone supposed to become "recognised" if you're pansying around and refuse to try something new because the person who made it isn't well known.

"sorry guys, I can't go see that new band because they're not that well known"

"sorry, I can't try that new dish because it's not that well known"

See how stupid you sound? How did robocik, baadnews, ownhere, small and all the test become known?

That ROM is a direct port of this one. Except this ROM is no longer supported. Robocik keeps telling us he'll update "soon" and that he's busy moving into Poland. So explain why his Sensation ROMs are updated?

At the end of the day the wmjam ROM is also perfect, like this one, except its had an update in under the last month.

You guys can WRONGLY say this ROM is perfect but until you stop being stupid and try the ****ing updated version you won't even realise. This ROM NEEDS the official bravo kernel ASAP.

Sorry but I can't understand why you're both being stubborn. Also, flashing to a bravo hboot isn't a big deal.

Please just try the ROM then judge it. I think if you do you'll realise what I'm saying.
[Desire Android Development] MattBooth:
Oh I assure you you won't come back here!

I've tried many ROMs, but since trying robociks ROM (this one) I always keep coming back to his.... Until wmjam released this exact same ROM but with data2EXT that works flawlessly (unlike Starburst) then that's the one I go back to. Last one I tried was teppic74's official stock gingerbread... But no data2EXT, no dice!
[Desire Android Development] MattBooth:
And ALL your apps will install to that ROM no problem because it's based on this one. I swear to all that is holy the only difference is the kernel and ownhere's D2EXT script.

It works flawlessly and I really would like some of you to try it first. You can even Titanium Backup between the two ROM's because they're essentially the same.

Nobody else notice a slight lag on the lockscreen? Gone. Dodgey 720p recording (jumpy, audio out of sync?)? Gone, as far as I can tell.

I **** you not, until Robo updates this thread with the Official Bravo Kernel wmjam's is the way forward for now.

I still have this thread subbed and I'm eagerly awaiting the next update, but until then...
[Desire Android Development] Lord_Quack:
How is a developer meant to become recognised, when he simply decides to port another ROM? Sorry, but I think it would be more noticeable if it was original... Not simply with a new kernel and some tidbits. I will try something new out, something different... When there is a major difference.

Changing HBOOT... What for? The changes wont affect how I use my phone. Camcorder... Big woof, I hardly use it anyway...

If robo says he's gonna update, then I trust him to update. So what if he hasn't updated for a while? He's moving house or whatever, and can you really begrudge a guy for updating his latest shiny new toy... The desire is old now... I appreciate that its being updated at all!

I'm happy with robo's official ROM, the changes in this unofficial copy just don't seem worth the effort.
[Desire Android Development] Arkangel786:
Guys, Robo won't be returning to this Rom. He's bought a sensation and is a developing for that - he posts daily in the sensation forum even though he's apparently moving/painting/very busy etc etc, and yet he can't take 1 minute to post here.

It basically comes down to this: if you're happy with this Rom then great! If you're unhappy with the Rom or with the lack of updates/communication from Robo, then find another Rom.
[Desire Android Development] Arkangel786:
How many Roms have you ported then? You should not belittle someone's work no matter how 'simple' it is, especially if you can't do it yourself.
[Desire Android Development] Lord_Quack:
Dude, updating snq-'s kernel is as simple as flashing the update package. I can do it in 5 mins- its not a noteworthy achievement.

Tell me what is noteworthy about switching. Is there something there that I must have on my current ROM? Do I really need 3D effects? What about the script? Any great advantage?

What is so great about switching to an unknown dev who, for all we know, will drop his 'frequent updates' in the next month when he gets bored?

You will need a much greater array of arguments to convince most people to move from this ROM, me included.

I'm sticking by with robo. After all, patience is a virtue.
[Desire Android Development] Lothaen:
if you want to switch, switch, if you don't, don't - simple.

don't need to talk about it on here - its just spamming pointless posts really (much like this one) - problem is I check on the thread to see what the latest posts are when i see updates and just see they are people talking about if they are going to switch or not...

would rather see talk about issues, fixes, support, tweaks, etc. for this rom than just people talking about switching or not...
[Desire Android Development] sudkcoce:
To stop the vibe of the recent comments on this thread:

I have been tired of waiting, I wanted better scrolling and more speed, with same stability as robocik 2.0, which was on my phone the longest of all roms (but stock - before I rooted).

So, I am now on

AceSMod007 7 (Sense2.1+3.0 GB | Stable | A2SD+) [STOCK | CM7] [v35 | 03/09]

This IS an evolution of this rom. Stable as this one, faster, especially scrolling (e.g. no stuttering in xda premium app :)) and is evolving all the time, just like robocik was doing before.

So, thanks a LOT, robocik, for your great roms but i am now moving on and my advice to others with itchy fingers ;-) is doing the same. The above suggestion is the only rom I've tried since robocik, but I can strongly recommend it. Above all, as stable as robo's latest (have used it extensively for 3 weeks).

Of course if you don't miss anything on robocik 2.0,... then you're probably wasting your time on the rom related threads...

Hope this helps some people...
[Desire Android Development] ronilzizou:
Thankyou!

Jesus guys argue somewhere else!
[Desire Android Development] 777ace:
Hey Robo, if you see this post...it might be really cool to have a Sense3.5 version of this ROM...

Just sayin' ;)
[Desire Android Development] MattBooth:
No its not.

The ROM I posted IS the evolution of this ROM could considering its 90% robociks work.

Lord Quack can suit himself and act all holier than thou if he wants. Like others have said, if it's so "simple" then I'd like to see him release his own ROM. It's no skin off his nose to just try the ****ing ROM but he won't anyway.

And lord quack, the point is robo promises updates that never come. It's a problem.

Wmjam's ROM is the same as this one. You will NOT get any closer to this ROM unless robocik updates, which he isn't and hasn't done for 3 months. I come to this thread to tell people about my discovery.
[Desire Android Development] Arkangel786:
+1
[Desire Android Development] craoul:
Yes, we would love 3.5. Especially that RC Mix for DHD is already with 3.5.
[Desire Android Development] FROGDIVISION:
I have replaced this ROM by wmjan Rom abt 15 days ago, and It works perfectly well.

This Rom looks exactly like Robo Rom.
[Desire Android Development] bartoloandre98:
Guys if u want sense 3.5 coolexe ported it and it is really good!!
[Desire Android Development] stark_br:
Where is Robo?

Has he abandoned this awesome rom? =(
[Desire Android Development] W.Master:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17126157&postcount=12921
[Desire Android Development] ronilzizou:
It would be cool if you got something like this in the ROM robo

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=841580

Just makes the battery charge to 100% instead of going to 100% then dropping to 90% then charging back up and so on.
[Desire Android Development] Teh_Tech:
Sorry, this dont work on my HTC Desire, it just loads the boot animation, screen goes blank for 2 seconds & then the boot animation again, its been like this for over 8 minutes, I have tried fully wiping & re-installing again but to no avail, a waste of time! Shame as it looked good on "paper" but not working in reality :-(
[Desire Android Development] Lord_Quack:
Hey, what Bootloader are you using? Have you partitioned you SD card correctly (Fat32 followed by 1gb minimum ext 2/3/4?) Many people have had these kinda problems on all sorts of ROM's, its usually a small issue.
[Desire Android Development] robocik:
Hello everyone :)

Sorry if i dissapointed anybody, but i had very very much to do in real life...

situation is getting stabilized now, so ... dont want to promise anything, but i am prioritizing a update for you guys.

I will not doing any sense3.5 port or so, for now anyway ;) ... i will simply update this rom with newest stuff + add some new scripts and so.

remember, i will not abandon you, but you have to understand, that real life stuff (family, bills, work) has some priority, dont think that i am just working on sensation rom, cause i am not, i just thrown together a rom for rcteam sensation fans, they are also *****ing about update... but as i said before, you guys are before in the line ;)
[Desire Android Development] Dingo_N:
thanks robo! don't worry, really ^^ I continue using your test4 rom 2.1 winth sense 3

yesterday, I try the new Cool3D with sense 3.5 and I returned to your rom with a nandroid backup xD

very thanks for all robo!!
[Desire Android Development] howardhopkinson:
No worries at all mate. I'm still using the 2.0.1 version and it's stable, fast and problem free, so I'm not in any hurry for an update. In fact I've been using this rom longer that any other(several months) and absolutely love it.

Thankyou for all the work you have done, I for one really appreciate it.
[Desire Android Development] ZeGuitarist:
How very nice to hear from you, robo. Please don't apologise, there's no need to explain to anyone that "real life" stuff has priority... people should just appreciate and respect that.

Regarding your update: wouldn't it be best to wait just a little longer, until someone (snq- probably) does something useful with the official GB kernel source that was released just yesterday? Then you can fit that improved kernel to your update of this ROM.

Just a suggestion. You're free to do as you please, obviously. I'm looking forward to your work! ^^
[Desire Android Development] Lord_Quack:
Hey robo, we appreciate all your hard work! Don't apologise for having to sort more pressing matters than your hobby- you are not paid for this hard work.

Thanks for everything, I can't wait for the even better update you are sure to release!

Hope you are having fun in Poland, nice country, I've been there a few times myself ;)

Keep up the good work!
[Desire Android Development] ronilzizou:
Thankyou Robo!

Hopefully this will shut alot of people up who say we should abandon this ROM!

Once again Thanks Robo :D
[Desire Android Development] robocik:
i will check if i can port special settings i use in sensation, its with a tweak apk, but need to mod many framework files and apks, so it will also take some time, its not that easy, but i will try, it is pretty nice ;)

so maybe my update will come with some snq stuff ;)
[Desire Android Development] dani_vh92:
Cool dude. Take your time for a fantastic ROM
[Desire Android Development] 777ace:
Amazing, robo puts up a post and all the wankers suddenly have nothing to say...it's been a whole page with no-one crying "change ROM peeps, robo doesn't love us!!"

LOL.

Good to hear from you robo, am giving the Cool3D/3.5 a test for a couple days, but I can assure you, I'll be back to this in no time! :)
[Desire Android Development] MattBooth:
Hope none of you snivelling little ****s include me in those descriptions of people suggesting others switch. Because while I have been encouraging people to use the wmjam ROM based on Robocik's work, I've always said the second robo updates ill be back to check it out.

Robocik, please check out the "D2EXT" part of my sig. A2SD isn't enough for me, and I'm not alone. I love your work but please release a D2EXT rom too? Wmjam's done a lot of the legwork for you so it should be easy!
[Desire Android Development] ZeGuitarist:
Wow, dude, aggressive much? Come on then, give us a hug! <3

Seriously, why can't we all just get along? :p
[Desire Android Development] Lord_Quack:
Get some manners, read 2.1 of the forum rules.
[Desire Android Development] MattBooth:
There's been every reason to move ROM's recently because Robo hasn't updated in a while. Like I've always said, though, the second this gets an update I'll be checking it out. It's the most stable and solid ROM on the forums. The only other two people I know with Desire's are running the V2.0 as per my recommendation. I, too, would be running it if wmjam hadn't updated his D2EXT V2.0 to include the 2.3.3 Kernel. Which I'm not sure why it's said it was released yesterday when it's been with us for almost a month...

Robocik, as before, take it easy. Just when you update, please include Data2EXT!
[Desire Android Development] MattBooth:
You're the guy who was rude the other day when I was telling people about the D2EXT version of this ROM that's been updated more recently than this one.

You should regard yourself before you go expecting things of others. My manners are fine and I've been called worse on the forums.
[Desire Android Development] ZeGuitarist:
You see, this is why we've been arguing against your points for all this time: you've got your kernels mixed up.

This ROM is running on snq-'s v5 kernel. This kernel suffers from a bug that makes undervolting impossible; whatever CPU speed you set (using SetCPU or the virtuous_oc or andrev_oc scripts), the voltage "sticks" at 1300mV.

While robo was away, snq- released his v6 kernel which was based on the official Bravo GB update. You can easily update the RCMixS v5 kernel to v6 using this flashable zip from snq-'s thread. However, like the v5 kernel, this kernel suffers from the same undervolting bug.

This problem could not be solved unless snq- had access to the GB kernel source code, which until yesterday, he didn't. Like I said, he based his v6 kernel on the official GB update package, but he compiled his kernel code himself; he never had access to the official kernel code. But now he does, so hopefully we will see a snq- v7 release which will be a tweaked and improved "official" kernel, offering proper undervolting and better performance.

So there, that's the deal with the kernels. Now do you see why some people are so reluctant to take your suggestion and switch over to wmjan's mod of this ROM? As you said, it offers 2 additions:

- D2EXT, which as you hopefully know not everyone needs or cares for;

- The v6 kernel instead of v5, which is an update you can easily apply yourself.

Hopefully this clears matters up for you.