yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ashclepdia:
Yet more proof that some people do apparently like this script.

Can't understand why these guys can't see that it DOES work for phones that need it...ddddeeeerrrr....

I had same results. Lag all but vanished completly
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jyarborough:
Sounds like.an EVO to me.. lol.. but really what device do you have... ? I would like to know
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeppelinrox:
ok.. back to work...

I answered you twice already.

Wrong.

If somebody asks me which is better, I say to use Juwe's script.

I expect SuperChargers to know what is better without my telling them.

The kickasskernel scripts may help with that.

Did you bulletproof or use the default HTK launcher?

If bulletproofed, try HTK.

The pgrep command does fetch the pid number.

Run the V6 script.

Run the Kick Ass Kernel install script.

Put 99supercharger and 98kickasskernel in the rom's init.d folder.

Copy the supercharger section, including comments, from local.prop to the rom's build.prop
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Mr. Clown:
Calm down guys, stay on topic.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] [d]amour:
yes, u said that it made changes to /system/etc/rootfs init.mapphone_umts.rc but the minfree memory just wouldnt stick once i reboot the phone...the current minfree return to default value once it is rebooted
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jerdog:
I know he doesn't have an Evo - but I do. And I have no issues either with a similar setup WITHOUT this script. Which continues to prove the point from other threads about this having no effect on newer, i.e. devices with minimum 512mb ram, devices.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jyarborough:
I have EVO as well,, and no issues either,, but these scripts Nd made mine faster.. not a great deal faster,, but I can notice a difference with certain thing..

Fact is,, if I like stock look,kernel,disorder or anything else I would not have rooted this beast in the first place,, fact.... The only thing that I saw as a "no go" was how terrible the stock kernel was on battery regarding froyo.

I simply asked what phone he had cause he made mention of "never going under 300mb of RAM" what ever phone that is,, I'm going to buy it next week... Lol.,,

Also I was trying to make joke to make light of the bullshite pissing contest that was going on.. you know,, the "ny heads bigger then youd" thing,, and the "in smarter then you thing...

****e like this makes me wanna uninstall this script and not return to this thread.. and under no fashion do I support the stupidity that has taken place in this tread..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ashclepdia:
I find that hard to believe considering I have the x2 which is 512 and this script does wonders. Its what I was trying to say before someone basically called me an idiot. But ill stay on topic.

I confirms that this script does wonders for my x2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MikeJ92YJ:
With Typos Like That Alot Of People Wouldn't Miss You.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ashclepdia:
I am pretty sure he is on the thunderbolt. Google the number and letters in his "sent from my ---- using...."U and thunderbolt comes up. It has 768 ram
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeppelinrox:
Doesn't sound like you tried it?

Of course, not all people "need" better performance but it's nice to have anyway.

You can't miss ice cream if you've never tried it.

So I recommend chocolate and a 512mb setting :P
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jyarborough:
Purpose is not to cuss.. so I use other words.. that's was pretty rude dude.. nothing I said was offensive,, and not towards you anyway.. but thanks for you opion,, though it was not needed.

So i miss an m,, and an s ,, it happens.. so friggin what
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jyarborough:
Oh,, well that's god to know. My cuz just got the t-bolt today and wants me to root it for her. I would not mind having a dual core phone,, think I will loom on eBay for one.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] twistedumbrella:
Who? ADR6400 is Thunderbolt, ADR6300 is Incredible, PC36100 is EVO. A thunderbolt is, by default, fast and responsive with about 3 hours moderate use of battery life. By dropping the clock speed to a max of 1024 and using some placebos, it gets the same response as 1.4 with a little over 14 hours of moderate use. I also have swap active, at the recommendation of multiple sources, to bump free RAM to about 63MB, but then again I do a lot more than just surf webpages...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jerdog:
I could say you have no clue what you're talking about with this stuff... but that doesn't make me right does it. Neither does your continual dribble about everyone else being wrong (especially those who have over 15+ years experience in this environment [and before you jump on that I am talking Linux which is what Android was based on, and where it took it's memory management]) and you being right... doesn't making you right though, does it?

You love to come back with statements that call someone a liar - but when presented with actual real-world, documented instances of what the actual technology is (and isn't) you just respond with more statements attacking the person. That is not how the real world works. In the real world you back up your statements to support your hypothesis - which I personally have yet to see you do.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Seanzle:
My incredible was fast before with version 8 but it is noticeably faster with 9. literally no lag whatsoever. All I can say is Wow. Wait let me say that backwards... Wow! Maybe it's placebo effect maybe it's not... I care not cause my device is a flyin
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hazard209:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN-Ee7uXKYo
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DaXmax:
Lol... Any upcoming updates zeppelin?

Sent from LGE Secret phone using tapatalk app... >DA×<
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] twistedumbrella:
Just a neutral observation. I have about one year in experience with Linux, and about 4+ years with Android. Honestly Linux experience changes the learning curve, but it doesn't substitute. Guess I just don't have an appreciation for those with experience in a similar OS claiming expertise in Android.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeppelinrox:
1. An android phone isn't a linux pc. So why is it, in some ways, configured the way a pc would be. Example: Why is it configured as if it has a rotational device ie. physical hard drive?

2. The person that I called a liar was indeed lying.

3. I don't need to have documentation that I can fudge to my favour. All you need to do is read some comments from dozens, literally dozens of threads about it, here and other forums.

4. Don't knock it till you try it.

5. I'm simply defending what works. Naysayers are just naysaying because "on paper", it's impossible that this schmuck zeppelinrox actually improved memory groupings on the android device

6. Does an linux pc have OOM groupings? Foreground app, secondary server... etc?

If not, then those 15 years experience don't apply at all.

7. As previously mentioned, all the real world evidence and proof are user experience.

So, are they all wrong and you are right because you have 15 years experience with a memory system that is suited for a different device entirely?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] twistedumbrella:
Hey, shut up! Nobody needs your fully documented explanation when my factless observation already covered this! Lol ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ashclepdia:
T-bolt is not dual core
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jerdog:
You completely miss the point.

1. Android was birthed out of Linux and it's memory management comes from it as a start. And as far as "configuration' for devices... have you ever compiled a kernel? You can add what you want to provide support for and not. That simple. Are you saying that a Linux OS installed on an SSD drive is all of a sudden not a Linux PC because it doesn't have a spinning disk - but it's also not an Android device - so wait! We now have a completely different thing altogether? Huh?

2. You have no idea that he was lying - you only think so because it doesn't support your hypothesis. He tried it on his Transformer - which was exactly what you had linked to - him saying he had tried it................ :confused:

3. LOL - comments from people who claim to have achieved results of which haven't been substantiated on devices with over 512mb RAM. We've already established the fact that this can be helpful for legacy devices - but current devices (and newer versions of Android since Froyo) make whatever benefits this actually does achieve to be null.

4. Hmm - I have. Again - you're calling someone a liar.... Someone sounds a little insecure

5. You're defending what you have put together - and that is admirable. Don't make that defense more than it is or should be.

6. Yes! Linux has OOM groupings - it's nothing new. Those years of experience (of which I wasn't talking about myself - but even my 10 years of experience in this environment can understand) are in the very environment you're talking about! All of this is handled by the kernel - care to identify where that kernel comes from? DOS!!! WAIT! NO! IT'S THE LINUX MAINLINE KERNEL SOURCE!!!!!

7. Good development, especially when you're sharing what you've done and desiring to get others to use it, is about providing examples and information as to what it is doing - that also means providing real-world experience from you and documentation that proves it's doing what you say it's doing. Are you saying that you haven't used it, because if you did you would be able to provide information to back up what you say this is doing - but yet I personally haven't seen you show that. Correct me if I am wrong, and I will gladly admit to it! But all I have seen you do is make claims of which haven't been substantiated other than someone saying their device works great - which isn't proof of anything other than the fact that we as humans tend to see what we want because we've just done something. We sell all sorts of "health supplements" which say they do XYZ - but that was 1 out of maybe 100 in a control group - that's hardly proof.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jerdog:
Wait a second... 8 years experience in Android? Care to explain THAT one? And care to explain what experience that may be?

And this isn't a neutral observation, as evidenced by your next post....
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] thebadfrog:
So you know I didn't install this script. You must be stalking me to know for certain I'm a liar. You defend yourself with gullible users who will believe anything. And when faced with something you don't like you start name calling or calling them liars.

You sir are a moron
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jasonhunterx:
Which one gives better gives better performance 1-17
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] buckhunter:
Ok so if you think it doesn't work just leave it alone. I'm not trying to stir this up, but there are people on this thread than would like to talk about the script not watch this **** all night.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 10507:
Guys..guys..

This is going no where fast. Moderator arguing with member and members arguing with other members. Jeez, this is ridiculous. If the script works for you, then stick with it. And if the script didn't work for you, then you should not use it and just move to something that works for you.

I think we should make another thread just for arguing on this nonsense stuff.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] thebadfrog:
I had my previous post deleted and was leaving it alone until I was called a liar again. Sorry, I'm not gonna let that stand.

BTW...."zeppelinrox is a god" as a tag is pretty offensive
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] twistedumbrella:
I corrected myself after I realized I started mobile programing in 2002, but not on Android until 2008. It was a neutral observation, it just covered the same topic of saying that Linux experience is not a substitute for Android experience. I suggest you go take a minute to collect your thoughts, calm your nerves, and return to a thread where your posts are more than just calling the dedicated work of others pointless. That is what irritates me. If you have followed the thread, you should be aware that while I have taken my shots at ego and attitude, I made it a point to never attack the work of others as useless. If you want to make your point, I recommend finding a way to do it that does not insult both the developer and the user. You've left no real audience to share your viewpoint...

All further inquiries into the actual design of Android should be directed HERE
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jyarborough:
+1... This is never going to end.. there both full of pride.. someone has got to take the high road
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hazard209:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQdyEw6jfGQ

Lol. Ok I'm done.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bamso:
just wanted to say thanks, i'm using it on my lg o2x running cm7 nightlies and it really made a difference.

Running at mega setting and scroll speed 1.

again thanks, great script.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jerdog:
All myself, and others, have been doing is trying to get this OP to explain, and prove, how this is beneficial for anything over 512mb ram. That's it. He has made statements which the casual user, or uninformed user, will take as gospel when it just isn't.

And as to the design of Android - your link does nothing but provide info on what it is - it's not meant for anything but a background and overview of Android.

XDA is full of people posting placebo-scripts and crazy processes to improve battery life, speaker volume, signal strength, grow hair, and increase penis size - and 99.99999% of the time they are boundless and not worth bunk - but yet the casual user sees claims and they jump into it and cause more harm to their device, and other's devices as a result.

So let that be the end of it. The OP is obviously going to continue to spread this script where he feels necessary - and he's bound and determined to declare that this is "the bee's knees" for all devices - so there's no sense in trying to change his mind. We only ask that those who wish to use/try his script (or anyone else's) read, read, read and read before they do so.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ashclepdia:
From what I've seen though especially in the script is that it was made for devices with 512 or less. Im just sayin

Although I may have.missed something that says otherwise. If so disregard me.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jerdog:
The script may say that - but the OP (the script creator) and others have stated that it's needed in devices with 512mb and above. That's also the root of some people's angst towards this script.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] augoza:
Here's an attached pic of my 3g script results. The 3g update 8 did not work for me. I got horrible data speed. So I uninstalled it. So I tried the 3g update 2 and I think it worked. In the picture are my results. The bottom 2 are before I installed anything, its just normal.. The top 2 are after I installed it. Pretty cool thanks a lot! Btw, v6 supercharger works like a charm as well.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ashclepdia:
I don't think it could hurt to do the oom groupings fix for higher ram devices would it?

I can see not using the minfree settings as they do not apply but if you WERE having trouble with launcher redraw would it not help to change the groupings?

No sarcasm intended. Serious question.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] b-eock:
Android has been around for 8 years, since 2003!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] R2D2_SW:
Alright, I got it to work. The problem I had was not to set the files as boot and root, but rather that I couldn't see those files. Every time I'd go to the data folder from SM, it was saying that the data under that folder was forbidden, so I never could see the 99SuperCharger file.

I managed to get the access by using ES Explorer and fixing the permissions to that folder.

Thanks!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ashclepdia:
That is why I said in script manager press menu>more>advanced options >config

then check browse as root. U might wanna go do that right now if u haven't and you should be able to view anything u want. If u don't u will have trouble in the future trying to find things like this.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] angusc:
Wow! That 10 pages was like reading war and piece!

Now let the joe public decide rather than getting a hard on.

Sent with Desire.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Crescendo Xenomorph:
This SCRIPT IS AWESOME!!! LOVIN' IT!!! No more redraws... Thanks zeppelinrox... ^^

I'm using SHW-M110S with VG26 StockROM rooted with Tegrak build 26.I just tried the V6 update 9 beta 1. It works perfectly, only small warning at the startup of the script saying: "/proc//oom_adj" not found.

The rest is working OK..

What is that "/proc//oom_adj" not found?

Thanks and waiting for next update... ^^
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] R2D2_SW:
Got it! Will do that for future.

Thanks!

EDIT: I had not seen your post initially. Just saw it now.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] seshmaru:
No it does not technically hurt the device (the OOM groupings, other things in the script can cause issues) but it doesn't do anything either. There is no use doing OOM regrouping since you will never get launcher redraw on a flagship device if you aren't running a malicious app. I promise this.

Also seeing as he tried to post this in multiple device forums for devices that have more than 768MB of RAM I'd say he's promoting it for 512MB+ devices.

Funnily enough all those threads got locked.

The fact is (not fiction) this script does nothing for any current flagship device whatsoever, or even Q4 2010 flagship phones. However zeppelinrox seems to ignore facts and doesn't want to back up his claims with any evidence whatsoever. He just says "look at all these people saying it's good" when there are tons of **** things posted on XDA every day that people think are good since they don't know how it works.

People will see what they want to see, so if they want to see a performance increase after a script then theres a big chance they will even if it isn't there, this is called the placebo effect.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jayfallen:
i need to read this and try it on my N1
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] twistedumbrella:
Edit: These people are just trying to bring negativity to the community. They should simply be ignored.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] seshmaru:
Your insults are nice but I do enough work behind the scenes to improve android :) unlike others I don't do it for fame, rep, or donations (in fact I don't even take donations) and thus don't promote any of the projects I work on.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] angusc:
GIVE IT A REST ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fu_k i just want to read XDA threads not your bull**** back and forth.

PERIOD forget it and move on ALL OF YOU!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] twistedumbrella:
Not contributing to the general community is not contributing. It's not an insult, it's a fact. Period. Now please, for the sake of the general public... leave... you have caused nothing but problems on this thread. If you have any further comment you can find my PM button and continue there.

Did you have a question or need help with something you were distracted from? I'll be more than happy to help ya out if you do...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] akellar:
I do find it disturbing that a mod (Jerdog - looking at you) is engaging in exactly what this phony "Iron Fist" **** is supposedly trying to clean up. Gotta love the hypocrisy from the XDA staff.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] seshmaru:
Seeing as he's talking about the script and how it works, tryign to explain why it doesn't do what the OP claims, it is perfectly in line with iron fist, unlike your comments.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] twistedumbrella:
It doesn't show titles on the forum apps. Interesting. I guess once you get the badge there is no real followup review... Anyway, back on topic, I am looking into some additional settings for kickasskernel to compensate for swap. Technically using swap with the current setup will cause more harm than good.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] PMGRANDS:
I also experienced the

"proc//oom_adj" Not Found!

I First hit Menu, then browse as Root, then ran the script, but for some reason when it said to touch the screen for the Scrolling speeds 1,2,3 it wasn't recognising my selections!

So I then went ahead and ran the "98KickassTweekUpdate3" and it said it was Successful and to Reboot!

My First Question is, Did I do the steps Correctly?

Second is there Anything else that I need to do? Also does having Firerats, Wiping Cache, or having a TaskKiller, or the app AutoKiller Mem Optimizer Interfere with Anything in these Scripts?

Thanx in Advance...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] thebadfrog:
Its amazing how if I use a curse word I get PMs to remove my post and if I don't the post gets removed. Interesting

Back to your point. Jerdog has repeatedly pointed out FACTS not random statements from gullible people who will believe the sky is green if someone tells them that.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ashclepdia:
Yeah lol there was a lot going on on this thread lately ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ashclepdia:
It would be nice if this thread could get back to support for those who need it and all this debate go to a new thread for those who wanting to dispute claims. Just sayin.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] twistedumbrella:
The ignore user option is available by clicking on a specific user's name and choosing the appropriate option. I normally don't recommend using it, but when you can be sure nothing said will be important to your user experience, it can be useful.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bsoplinger:
This is such a huge long thread that I'm afraid that I've missed this but I'm going to ask anyway...

When talking about how much memory my device has, I'm unsure what the 'right' answer is. My Dell Streak 7 has 512M of memory. But 128M of that is dedicated to video. So do I have 512 or 384 M of memory? I'm using the 3rd Balanced choice for now. Even if it isn't the correct choice it still makes a very useful difference.

Secondly (not related to this thread except I'd like that thank folks) is it possible using the Tapatalk app to thank people or do I need to open a post in my browser to do that?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zmag:
Well, first off I believe if your phone has 512 mb of memory, and 128 is "dedicated" to video, I think the phone will just use up to 128 of the 512 total (when needed) - in short, I want to say you should use MegaMemory 1 or 2 and see how it goes.

And to thank people I know you can hit the Thanks button via the browser, I dont know if its available in Tapatalk.

(if it is, feel free to hit the Thanks button for me lol) - zmag