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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fuzzysig:
theres no direct interface for anything besides iphone.

i would be nice to plug in any flac capable phone and have control over it through your stereo but use the phone as a decoder and send WAV file to the stereo.

but i have no fn idea why car audio companies would not do it.

i mean its a damn usb interface, its already universal. and doesnt take much effort to get together and create a universal control interface so we can use something besides the damn iphone in the car. that sht is getting old.

thers one i phone

but theres hundreds of other phones and they all share 3 things in common:

android OS

USB

and fast processor that can handle decoding of flac files or any other media files.

yet theres not even a hint of support for these devices for some unknown reason.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] melvinchng:
Google music and power amp can play flac. I have flac in my phone too.

Accidentally sent from my Google Nexus S using XDA Premium
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fuzzysig:
this is like beating a dead horse.

lol i dont care about AUX everyone has figured that out by now that you can hook up yor phone through aux

or use it as a media storage...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] batwingnz:
Hello all,

Had a funny thing happen just now: screen turned off as usual when idle, but wouldn't turn on again.

Hit a few buttons, tried holding power and home button felt usual vibrate response. Plugged in to charger and screen instantly came back on but notification bar had moved from top to bottom and screen shifted to the left, with the bit cut off on the left appearing on the right.

Using Launcher Pro, even the app drawer has shifted in both landscape and portrait mode.

Just checked phone again after writing this and its back to normal.

Any ideas of a cause?
[Desire HD General] niks_5in:
Is htc desire HD mid end or high end device . I have noticed in the android app store if you look for dungeon defenders it puts DHD in mid range category and nexus s and samsung s as high end . strange cause DHD has more ram and upgraded processor then why they list the device in mid range above samsung s and nexus s
[Desire HD General] Camelbak:
I personally classified this device as high end! :D
[Desire HD General] PsHegger:
I don't know why anybody woild say DHD to be a mid end device. It's absoletely high end
[Desire HD General] niks_5in:
You can check out the android app store And look for the game called dungeon defenders. These they have put the DHD in mid range section.
[Desire HD General] AndroHero:
The developers is talking about graphics nothing more. As far as our gpu goes it is mid end, with powervr and tegra 2 devices at the top end. basically the dev has put that to make it easer for noobs to understand, rather than having a minimum/recommended requirements :) The DHD is clearly a top.end device tho.
[Desire HD General] losjettos:
Higher high end! ;)

After using Samsung Jet, DHD is astounding.
[Desire HD General] dragunov:
Yeah, the GPU is what characterizes DHD as "mid-ranged". PowerVR 540 on Galaxy S is much more powerful (almost twice as powerful) than Andreno 205 on DHD when it comes to 3D graphics.

DHD can handle ALL existing games, but in some of them (e.g. Asphalt 5 HD), we are missing some effects, like the ingame reflections on various objects. I can definitely live with that. :)
[Desire HD General] niks_5in:
So games plays fast on DHD but looks cool on samsung s

... I did not knew DHD has mid range graphics... I feel bit disappointed
[Desire HD General] TeroZ:
Judge by the release price, high end.

Judge by the material of the phone, high end.

Jugde by CPU power, thanks to the powerful vpu, higher than high end.

Judge by gpu, mid end? But DHD wins in both an3Dbench xl and gpubench but loses in Nenamark1. I don't really know.

Sent via psychic transmittion.
[Desire HD General] tolis626:
It loses in Nenamark?Nah nah nah!I scored 49.2FPS just yesterday and scored 49.7FPS once.You just have to switch to performance governor.Smartass gives like 43FPS and ondemand/interactive plunge to 33.The SGS scores like 50,so not such a big difference.

Not stating that the PowerVR isn't more powerful,it's just not twice as powerful. ;)
[Desire HD General] niks_5in:
THen how powerful it in compared to DHD gpu
[Desire HD General] karthics4:
The phone is high end
[Desire HD General] Lord_Schrotty:
look at the benchmarks then you can say if its high end ;)

around 3 times better than the sgs
[Desire HD General] mlenderink:
Ill say high end!
[Desire HD General] dragunov:
Just check the yellow part of the quadrant here.

http://www.androidup.com/htc-desire-hd-ecco-i-risultati-di-quadrant-13861.html

:)

dhd is definetaly a high end device...
[Desire HD General] audiavant:
Why is DHD the most expensive phone, because it is High End phone...
[Desire HD General] niks_5in:
Look you guys don't get it ..in terms of processor its great but its mid end device in terms of gpu. Even developed treats desire HD midrange device in terms of gpu. SamsuNg s uses powervr
[Desire HD General] dr.m0x:
Really this will be high end for at least a couple of months yet. Once the dual cores are more readily available it will be mid range.

Htc Pyramid anyone? Know I'm hanging out.
[Desire HD General] Flussen:
Check the 3D graphics part of the SGS. So which one is higher? ;)
[Desire HD General] Kjekse:
Expensive doesn't always mean good, just sayin'..

But yeah, the DHD is high end, maybe not the best graphics but it's really a great high-end phone
[Desire HD General] AndroHero:
Your all missing the point as usuall, just because the DHD has a mid end GPU, it dosent make it a mid end device! If i was to buy a dell laptop, with a quad core CPU, it would come with the intel onboard graphics, which is mid end at best, but does that make the laptop any less top end than an alienware one of the same price with dual HD graphics cards? NO
[Desire HD General] tomegranate:
Hang on... "mid end" ?? There's no such thing as a mid end. There's low end, high end, and between that there's a middle (which isn't an end. It's the middle) :p
[Desire HD General] mBeat:
The Desire HD is available for 1/2 year, but in my Opinion it is still a HighEnd Device.

I think, that dual and Quadcores are too overpowered for Smartphones, until there are better Batteries. Im still in love with this huge Screen :)
[Desire HD General] FabioRochapt:
Defenitely high end!
[Desire HD General] Foladko:
If it's mid-range, then what would you call the first gen snapdragons?

:P
[Desire HD General] dragunov:
Actually, that was my point! I wanted to point to tolis626 that sgs has a way better gpu processor. :)

But overall, dhd beats sgs imho...
[Desire HD General] TeroZ:
except Quadrant and Smartbench, dhd wins or on par with sgs in other gpu benchmarks. So it should be the matter of optimization.

Powervr is great in vertex rendering, but others adreno wins

Sent via psychic transmittion.
[Desire HD General] TeroZ:
Nexus one and desire = Mid-low ?

Sent via psychic transmittion.
[Desire HD General] niks_5in:
Try playing asphalt 5 on DHD and samsung galaxy s you will get more glass like smoky effects on samsung then on DHD because of powerful gpu but the game don't lag on DHD because of fast processor or ram. Samsung has better gpu. Thats why developer of dungeon defender put DHD in mid range in terms of graphic and samsung as high end
[Desire HD General] Nankov:
My dhd scores higher on neocore than a sgs...
[Desire HD General] AndroHero:
Well that was a dumb comment lol qualcomm make neocore lol
[Desire HD General] tolis626:
Kala re malaka,trelathikes? :p

Plakitsa file. ;)

The gpu isn't WAY better.It outperforms the Adreno only in some aspects.In some others the Adreno overpowers the PowerVR.Just look at 2D.Not the best example,but at the moment,after some shots,that's the best I can think of! :p

LMFAO!Epic!Dude,you just wrote history! :p

Although,out of all the bs we geeks around here wine about,that might be well the most accurate and the best answer so far on this thread! :D
[Desire HD General] DexterMorganNL:
High end without doubt, ofcourse the newer phones which are going be released this year are better, but the DHD will keep being a high end smartphone.
[Desire HD General] kurolife:
And you believe in tha benchmark? that's definitly NOT a DHD benchmark or something is wrong with his DHD.

I get a consistant 1800-2100 with a Stock DHD and it gets 605 in 3D graphics which is almost 2x the score you got on that screen shot.

How come no one pointed this??

Sorry but the DHD is the king of the hill when it comes to single core cpus not to mention it is 6months old and so far i'm disappointed in the Atrix and Optimus 2x, hopefully they will get what they deserve in the future android upgrade.
[Desire HD General] Nankov:
Oh thank you for the kind reply... However it is still a graphics performance test based on OpenGL-ES 1.1 and the DHD wins...and the below links kind of show the same...

http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010...-vs-sgx540-htc-desire-hd-vs-samsung-galaxy-s/

Out of the 31 tests, DHD was faster in 19 of them, while SGS on only 12

Quote "As you can see the SGX540 performed better in the scenery benchmarks but was

totally obliterated by the Adreno 205

in most of the synthetic tests.

The only time the SGX540 was pulling ahead was in vertex shading performance

.

This oblivious doesn’t mean much to the end user

but I was relatively surprised to see that Adreno 205 held its own against the beastly SGX540"

And here is some more: http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/3dmarkmobile-gpu-showdown-adreno-205-vs-powervr-sgx540/

Out of 3 tests the powervr comes out on top once...

And more detailed comparison chart:

http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....SGH-I897 Captivate&D4=Motorola ATRIX 4G MB860

So far i havent seen proof of the sgx being faster than the adreno as all the research i did mostly adreno wins by the looks of it Opengl ES 1,1 , Opengl ES 2.0, Neocore, Quadrant - all adreno, although i still hear everyone saying powervr sgx 540 is the more powerful gpu between the two :confused:
[Desire HD General] niks_5in:
Powervr is better guys. Play high end games and compare the graphics . Games look more better on samsung because of powerful gpu but lags less on DHD because of more ram and upgraded processor.
[Desire HD General] tolis626:
Well,if only we could clock the Adreno a little higher we would blow every single-core thing away and no one would doubt the DHD's reign!Muhahahahahahha! :D
[Desire HD General] BootloopedMillennials:
I own a second gen Snapdragon/Adreno 205 device and can testify that the SGS GPU is far superior.

Buddy has a Nexus S (same CPU/GPU as other SGS devices) overclocked to 1.4ghz, in Smartbench in the gaming index he scores over 3000+ and in Quadrant over 3500+.

To compare my device at 1.516ghz fails to break 2000 in the gaming index of Smartbench and my Quadrant scores are in the 2800+ range.

In essence both devices stock, a SGS device and a Adreno 205 will be fairly close (SGS slight advantage in GPU). But once overclocked and optimized, those PowerVR SGX540 gpu's shine. Just check the scores in the Smartbench app.

Heres some Nexus S benchmarks:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=901573&highlight=smartbench
[Desire HD General] niks_5in:
Power vr is far superior then one found in DHD. You play high end games and many effects don't How on DHD.
[Desire HD General] AndroHero:
Posting benchmark results is pointless.... there about as acurate as the US army lol for starters its a known fact, quadrant cannot tell the diffrence between the CPU and GPU on the SGS, so it gives it a massive 3D score, confusing processing power for GPU ability....
[Desire HD General] turkish-soldier:
high end mid end:)

i think 3 months ago it whad high end...now it is mid end:P
[Desire HD General] TeroZ:
Same opinion.

Let's see how good xperia play will do since Qualcomm stated it will have a "much mature" driver.

Sent via psychic transmittion.
[Desire HD General] dhiral.v:
Truesay dude. Since the xperia play has got the same CPU/GPU as our beloved Desire HD, game developers will be making games specifically for this chip!

Its pointless stating that one is better than the other, adreno 205 and powerVR are both good in their own ways. Check out this article:

http://androidevolutions.com/2010/1...wervr-sgx540-hummingbird-in-samsung-galaxy-s/

Also it matters about the software optimisation the most, look at the iphone 4, the CPU/GPU in that is worse than the desire HD, galaxy S and a lot of other devices, yet the 3D games look beautiful. Software optimastion is the most important aspect.
[Desire HD General] dlads:
High end for now, silly question. Soon it will just be a good phone which will have been out dated by a newer batch, unfortunately this is the way of mobile phones, any new phone which comes out is usually being followed by a superior device, the trick is to buy a phone which will be future proof for the duration of your contract, personally I'm more than happy with my device.
[Desire HD General] dhiral.v:
Like the nexus line of devices...
[Desire HD General] TeroZ:
Thanks for the reply.

Please take a look at this

http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011/02/16/qualcomm-msm8660-and-adreno-220-gpu-demo/

And see the part of adreno 205.

You may find something interesting.

"When asked about current OpenGL ES 2.0Adreno 205benchmark results compared to the PowerVRSGX540(see my benchhere) I was told that Sony Ericsson’s Xepria Play is the Android handsets with the most up-to-date drivers so it would be interesting to re-run the test on it and see how the Adreno 205 finally stacks up against the competition with more mature drivers."

Does this implying something?

Seems like a more mature driver for the adreno will come.

Sent via psychic transmittion.
[Desire HD General] boodies:
rofl true :)
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] rsalib:
Please update your Tango app. I just tested it. It works on my 2.2 streak running streakdroid 1.81.

I love this video call app. :) enjoy!

And by working I mean the front facing camera is recognized and I am able to switch back and forth between cameras during a video call.
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] Egypt1337:
OMG FINALLY i grabbed my phone as soon as i saw this post
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] TILTOUCH:
Just Tango'd my brother who has the EVO, worked fine, decent visuals under the limits of Wifi that I'm under at work, #happycamper
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] ramtix:
Just updated to 1.8.1 and tried to install tango but I keep on getting error message that I have insufficient memory when I install it. Tried to install other apps like yahoo messenger to check but it was ok. Anybody else having a problem installing tango?
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] borijess:
Had that issue with chompsms. Had to do a factory reset to resolve that issue.
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] ramtix:
Did you have to factory reset on StreakMod Recovery or Dell Factory reset?
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] borijess:
Dell factory reset
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] ramtix:
That's just what I did, and yes I was able install it.

Now I have to restore all my settings and application.

thanks
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] satkitten:
read this post with interest...just looking iinto video calling...tested out the oovoo that came with 345.....

was pretty pants over GPRS, very good over wifi..not had chance to try "in the field" yet over 3G/H.

does anybody have comments on which is better? does tango keep running like oovoo does?
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] Cyberburnout:


Been using ooVoo for awhile now. No issues. Love it. Will try tango soon.
[Off-topic] Vettesfan:
Is anyone familiar with this program? For the devs here does it seem like a legit place to begin learning the wonderful world of Android programming?

http://www.edumobile.org/android-course.html
[Off-topic] Captainkrtek:
Too many stock photos on the site (makes me question credibility) along with lots of guarantees and such, I wouldn't do it
[G Tablet General] Reggie777:
I did it, sad to say. I was trying to get back to the earlier Tnt Stock so I could move up to the latest 5.0, when I got stuck on the Viewsonic screen. I had clockworkmod installed, but now nothing works. and when I try to get into recovery, it says it detects the key but then does nothing. I cannot see it when I connect it with my computer, and so I cannot install nvflash. Any suggestions? :(
[G Tablet General] roguey:
i doubt you bricked it, as far as i know, its litteraly impossible to brick.

one of the more informed will be able to help you
[G Tablet General] BilliamB:
if you think you can not get into apx mode, no power then inside next to the reset button are four solder spots that you can cover with a small piece of foil to recover to apx mode then run nvidia flash and you are back. you can not brick the gtab unless you physically break something.
[G Tablet General] RuncaProfundus:
Both of the previous posters are correct. Its practically impossible to brick it.

I use Ubuntu(Linux) so drivers aren't an issue for me. Sometimes Windows can be sketchy when it comes to APX.

Have you tried following the nvflash full restore guide? It should get you back on track.
[G Tablet General] tekrhino:
Go here,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=861950

You only need to make sure you have the proper nvidia usb drivers installed so APX can work correctly with your Linux/PC OS.

It's a little tricky for Windows 7/64Bit but it does work, I brought my GTAB back from Brick using the method on that thread.
[G Tablet General] pagantek:
agreed, I thought I had bricked it, and when i plugged it in and although it didnt seem to be powered on at all, i ran the nvflash to stock image, it powered up the screen in nvrecovery, took the files and booted right up. So far, I've done it 3 times. It might seemed bricked, but it's probably just in APX mode until its reflashed. Linux: easy peasy, Winders: driver hell, but... once the drivers were in, it was just as easy. follow the directions, and you should have a working stock G-Tab in 3 minutes.
[G Tablet General] Reggie777:
I'm tryin'.....

Thanks for the moral support, everyone. I'm taking a deep breath, trying not to panic, and trying the suggested thread. Actually it is my second time trying that, but before I was really panicked. I'm "calmed" down a little now.

I think I do not have the right USB drivers, since I keep getting "USB device not found" error message. The USB drivers were mentioned before, but where do I get them, and how do I install them? There is a file, "android_winusb.inf" that is among the unzipped files, but I still get the error.

When I boot to the APX mode, I do hear my computer "ding", so I gather it is trying to communicate. When I look at my Devices, It does show an APX device, but says the driver is not loaded. I've tried pointing the update driver to the folder with the "android_winusb.inf" file, but it doesn't see it, and the online search for the driver also comes up zilch. BTW I'm using Windows 7.

I'm breathing... I'm trying not to panic... At least I am progressing a little. I never knew that power on+down volume was different than power on+up volume...:eek:
[G Tablet General] Charles77:
for windows apx usb driver for windows

here is the link. oops cant post link just cut and paste

developer.download.nvidia.com/tegra/files/android_tegra_froyo_20101105.msi

After installing the .msi file connected the gtab by holding down the vol - and power together then go to the device manager find apx ? update the driver . It is located in the program files x86 ndivia section. C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\tegra_froyo_20101105. It will install the driver.

hope this helps
[G Tablet General] tekrhino:
This is correct, and for 64bit systems I believe there is a folder labelled usbpcdriver in there somewhere and the "Nvidiausb.inf" driver file for the 64bit system is in there.

http://developer.download.nvidia.com/tegra/files/android_tegra_froyo_20101105.msi
[G Tablet General] Evo8IKON:
sORRY, BUT....

You need better Kung-Fu to take down the tablet! :p

Just get the correct USB driver for your WinOS as other posted. And it's good you noticed the difference DOWN and UP volume button usage!
[G Tablet General] Reggie777:
Whew! Success... I have Tnt back...

I have NEVER been so glad to see that little blue desktop!!! Again, this community of devotees to the gTab is Fantastic. Thanks for all the help... and once again, our gTab remains unbrickable. Even by this owner. I updated it with the OTA to the 3588 version. I think I will wait a little and calm down before trying the new TnT 5.0, which I was attempting to do and started all this "drama". But I do know that with the support of all you people here, I can continue to learn about our wonderful gTab. Kudos and Gratitude! ;)

"Never Give Up! Never Surrender"....... Galaxy Quest
[G Tablet General] the3dman:
In the future you could also download a ubuntu live cd and run nvflash from that which would eliminate the need for drivers and also keep your windows os in tact.
[G Tablet General] Reggie777:
follow up...

I did the TnT 5.0 update successfully! Yeah! All the help paid off.
[G Tablet General] Evo8IKON:
Party On!!!
[G Tablet General] xmr405o:
Only way to brick the gtablet is to pour cement on it and literally make it into a brick.:p
[G Tablet General] TEK112:
Can someone please give me step by step directions for this?

I couldn't get past the birds booting up and I downloaded the package below and I guess I ran the wrong flash file. Now my tablet won't boot at all. It is as if the power switch does nothing.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Was this the TnT Lite 5.00 upgade? If so, check out the nflash links in my first post -- you might need to do that to get back on track.
[G Tablet General] TEK112:
Sadly this was me trying to downgrade clockwordmod manually and it got all sorts of outta whack.

edit: All is well. I nvflashed back to stock.

I have saved the entire folder in case anyone else needs it. Just open the folder and run the batch command and you are back to out-of-the-box stock.
[G Tablet General] butchconner:
Reggie,

Go to the original 5.0.0 sticky thread in the Developers Forum and go to the instructions and find the link to post 3798. In that post I list all the steps I

took and exactly the stuff I needed to NVFlash back from the same state you

are in.

The flash setup is not hard. It just took me a while to find USB drivers and I

have taken care of that now.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Rev
[G Tablet General] yyk981:
I had the same issue. Initially I freaked as well. Are you running a 32 or 64 bit system? That makes a difference as to which drivers you'll even be able to install. I have a 32 desktop and 64 laptop. After getting the correct drivers to install it was a breeze. Still having issues connecting in APX mode on the desktop but I'm determined to get it working.
[G Tablet General] P00r:
Isn't this a bit extreme to help someone that probably just doesn't know how to get apx working properly... good info to know tho... hopefully those who try this will not short anything around...

Maybe people who title their post "bricked unit etc.." should edit their OP title so that this urban legend stop spreading

Most modern device can't be bricked unless you do not have access to low level tool from the manufacturer there's exception to this like Wii etc but this is simply due to DRM being enforced down to the hardware level...
[G Tablet General] butchconner:
Not Hardly....

poor,

I wouldn't say it's "extreme" to help someone in a situation like this. What should we do -- just let them have an unworking G-Tablet.

I don't like it when things like this happen, but everyone makes a mistake

now and then. That's why we know what to tell them to do!!!! :)

Kindness always comes back to you with positive benefits.

Rev
[G Tablet General] P00r:
Thanks for the lesson but I think you miss the point totally in my post...

There's a difference between helping someone by showing him how to use NVFLASH AND

telling him to dissemble his unit to do a probably UN NEEDED reset

...

The proof is that he didn't need to open is unit to fix his issue...

I do not like doctor who want to open my body without asking a few question first...