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[Desire HD General] g.lewarne:
Just made the jump to my DHD from my HD2, was cheffing for the HD2 for 18 months so thought i would start again LOL

i have made myself a build, was wondering if anyone would be interested in it if i share :)

its going to be for the not particularly experimental people who need and want a really stable, stock(ish) CM rom

Froyo CM 6.1.3, uber stable

Really clean, no junk apps at all

Several performance tweaks, quadrant ~ 2300

Standard CM kernel (until i build my own)

thoughts please :)

G
[Desire HD General] g.lewarne:
gosh darnit i have put this in the wrong section, would a MOD mind miving it to the rom development section please :)
[Desire HD General] M_T_M:
Unable to comply mate as any "ROM coming soon" thread is not allowed. Feel to post your downloadable file on this thread, PMme and "then" I'll send your thread to the right area.

Cheers,

M_T_M

PS: Do not post a thread over in development 'till your ROM is ready to be released, please.
[Desire HD General] g.lewarne:
No problem, on thinking about it it is probably better here until I release anyway!
[Desire HD General] MrYuiM:
How about cm7 with fixes and all since cn7 looks a helluva lot better than froyo :)
[Desire HD General] tolis626:
Yeah man,MrYuiM is right.Gingerbread is a lot better and more nice looking.Froyo AOSP is ugly butt.Plus,I think you should release it anyway;New roms are always welcome around here! ;)
[Desire HD General] ghostofcain:
I appreciate you've probably put a lot of work into this for your own use, but all your really proposing is CM 6.1.3 with all the crap removed and some tweaks thrown in, I agree with the latter posters that you'd better serve the community by getting your development prowess behind teamdouche in the push towards CM7 stable than releasing this.
[Desire HD General] g.lewarne:
already got my GB rom well underway, just finalizing it really (it will be a direct port of CM7 RC2 at the moment)
[Desire HD General] AndroHero:
Why do another CM7 port, what the DHD needs is a really light aosp rom like adam g's oxygen for the desire :)
[Desire HD General] MrYuiM:
Hmm, he might be lightening, we never know. What we really do need is a CM7 ROM with Lee/Mike/Segio's performance and tweaks included. Now that is a ROM from heaven :D But Lewarne, your work is much appreciated :)
[Desire HD General] g.lewarne:
i shall say nothing other than let my reputation with HD2 roms speak for itself :p

i wont release it for a while though
[Desire HD General] MrYuiM:
Patience is a virtue ;) I'll look at your HD2 ROMS :D
[Desire HD General] g.lewarne:
i have to say though im not that impressed with CM7+2.3.3

i find it quite unstable (tried lots of the rom ports on here) and a little laggy compared to froyo.

eg, im making the same basic rom (same apps, general system tweaks etc)

CM6+froyo - quadrant of 3300 @ 1.5ghz

CM7+gb - quadrant of 2400@ 1.5ghz

Now i know that quadrant is not a good benchmark, and is highly vulnerable to synthetic changes. However, nearly a thousnd points is a lot of variance, so i ran a linpack run on each, taking an average of 5 runs

CM6+froyo - 49 mflops @ 1.5ghz

CM7+gb - 45 mflops @ 1.5ghz

that is again quite a large disparity! visually, i actually prefer froyo as i find GB a bit too dark, and its certainly mature and stable. Even checked out the battery drain on my froyo rom, getting around 10ma or less on idle consistently, and thats with the standard CM kernel !

i dunno, would you guys at least like to try.look at my froyo build? im much more confident in it than i am GB at the moment.......
[Desire HD General] Locster126:
If u can get one of the recent battery drain fixes for cyanogenmod in ur Rom I certainly would love to try ur Rom, performance tweaks in combination with battery fixes sounds good to me!

Looking forwArd to seeing ur work in action
[Desire HD General] thiagodark:
i was living quite fine with froyo, before flash cm7, some tweaks are really hard to leave. specially long press in search button to open an app and long press in back button to close an app... and beside it, i'm getting 3~5 mAh of battery draining with mad patch in gb and with stock cm6 kernel it is 12~14...

these are the main 'problem' with cm froyo build for me! =oP

i agree with you that cm7 is really unstable when compared to froyo, cm7 has wi-fi problems, gps problem, rotate problems, radio problem... quite annoiyng to be fixing point by poiint.

if you realese your rom, certainly i'll flash, but i think your knowledge would be more appreciated fixing issues from cm7. =o)
[Desire HD General] mudknot2005:
I am sure the inspire 4G community would appreciate it as well ;).
[Desire HD General] MrYuiM:
I see where you're coming from, but also remember the drivers for the GPU for gingerbread haven't been released, nor have any of the other drivers I think. Maybe this could affect performance as the old ones are in use?
[Desire HD General] Life Engineer:
Hey man! You remember me right!?!? :p I'm quite happy for you to see you here!

Sorry if this is off-topic! But i'm also thinking of switching to DesireHD from HD2!

I know it's been maybe only 1 week with you, but how do you find it?!

How it is compared to HD2 in terms of build quality?!

To be honest i've been reading a bit in here and i'm not assured about it :confused:

It looks DHD have many build issues (without mentioning the expected bad battery issues)!

It looks it have issues with:

-GPS fix!

-camera lens misaligned!

-battery cover and sim cover misplaced or bumping out!

-dust under screen (which means unsealed gaps!)

-died pixels!

-...

It's really freaking me out! If i haven't touchscreen issues with HD2 i wouldn't sincerely think of switching!
[Desire HD General] MrYuiM:
Yo just to jump in. I have no problems with any of those, but I haven't really used the GPS and if there is a problem I do what many others do and install the GPS Status Toolbox :) Build quality for me is perfect and it looks smexy ;)
[Desire HD General] MrYuiM:
Any updates mate?
[Desire HD General] seragor:
Take a look into the development section here and you will be surprised
[Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games] enahs_:
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[General Topics] ChadHughes:
I PM'd grilledcheze, but I didn't get one back. He lives in japan! The earthquake and tsunami are a big deal , and I wanted to know if he's okay, and if he needs any help. I've even started up a donation fund. If anyone knows if he's okay, let us know! And Sean, if you need help, don't HESITATE TO ASK!

Relief Fund for Japan:

http://funds.gofundme.com/31mhc
[General Topics] ChadHughes:
bump? guess not :(
[General Topics] GuestK00468:
Hey man, lets hope all is well for him.. give this a shot.

http://japan.person-finder.appspot.com/?small=yes

Remember...millions of people on the northern areas and abroad are without power and communications.
[General Topics] cupcake2301:
This is spooky. But his last activity is sometime yesterday. Hope all is good.
[General Topics] HariEdo:
Know what city? Other areas like Kyoto, Osaka should have little in the way of daily disruption. I was planning to go there for Sakura season, but glad I went a little early.
[General Topics] pulser_g2:
Last Activity: Today 02:22 AM (That's GMT), so about 12 hours ago from his public profile page

Also guys, there are issues with the PM system on XDA just now - sending and receiving PMs may sometimes result in an error page, so it's possible to be having difficulty opening them.
[General Topics] ChadHughes:
He's okay! Good to know. Got a PM back from him.
[General Topics] GrilledCheze:
Thanks Guys!

Hey everyone. I'm doing OK.

I posted a longer explanation in another thread and will continue to follow it and keep everyone updated.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=989001&page=4

Thanks for your support!
[General Topics] galaxys:
Hang in there bro...keep us posted!
[General Topics] orb3000:
There is a thread where we all keeping this topic, here

Said that, thread closed
[Xoom General] richardjr:
First off, why the heck did you buy a Xoom in the first place, it's kinda like you were asking for trouble and then paying for it, kinda stupid.

You say that the lack of high def video support is your main beef (especially after certain people point out that the vaunted all high powerfull apple didn't have all that many tablet apps on its initial release), but your keep switching the bar for what the problem is. You now say that the problem is no native, "Hardware" support for high def, but apple doesn't have that either, even the vaunted Ipad 2 doesn't seem to come with a hardware decoder for high def, and you apperantly realize that a software decoder is on the way, one way or the other, for the Xoom, so your only beef is it's not here now.

You know what, I'm not normally one of those Linux geeks who likes to show how smart I am and disdains others trying to play with my software, but CR@p you apple guys are some annoying perfectionist f√cks that I'd rather not have on my team, and not just perfectionist but blind to the faults in your own chosen gods.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Many people like myself picked up an iPad when it was apparent that Android had nothing to compete with it. I bought mine over the summer expecting Android to release something, anything, that could compete with it during the fall, at which time I would sell the ipad and pick up the Android tablet. During that period of waiting, I picked up a Galaxy S phone, specifically the Epic4g. I later found out that Galaxy S phones were nearly identical to the iPad hardware wise. I am continually blown away by how awesome this phone is and its capabilities. I am not an iPad fanboy. I think the hardware is amazing, but iOS is annoying and far too simple. So that is where I am coming from:

The FACT that the Xoom is incapable of playing high profile h.264@L4.1 or higher is ridiculous given its specs and who the manufacturer of the SoC is. I'm sorry. The iPad running XBMC and my Galaxy S phone natively can play files that the Xoom cannot, and that is kinda pathetic, as neither of those devices are dual cores and both are running years old GPU tech. Maybe sometime in the future the Xoom will be able to software decode these videos by maxing out both cores of the CPU, but that is both not ideal and unlikely and will destroy battery life compared to hardware decoding which uses the GPU.

And yes, the iPad hardware decodes these videos using XBMC the same way that my phone hardware decodes natively. Natively they limit the capability of the ipad to pimp their iTunes garbage, but the capability was there in the hardware for ingenious people to take advantage of. The iPad had Air Video also, which mitigated much of its unjailbroken shortcomings until XBMC was ported. No such capability exists for the xoom according to the very people who brought the port of XBMC to the iPad.

As for the rest of your post where you go on about "teams" and other nonsense, what are you talking about. People can appreciate both platforms and both devices.

tl;dr: Part of the reason some of us were/are upset at this glaring shortcoming is that we have been waiting forever for an Android tablet to come swoop us off our feet and for months now Nvidia has been pimping its SoC as the bringer of all things HD and graphically sexy. Then we come to find out that oh yea, it only plays this VERY VERY specific kind of HD that no one uses and that is surpassed by last years PHONE technology. Its not the end of the world, but its personally what I use my iPad for most.
[Xoom General] almostinsane:
I have both so its easy to compare one to the other. With that said, looking forward to Xoom updates to bring feature parity. Hopefully something can be done with the craptastic video playback support.
[Xoom General] inspiron41:
No offense, but I enjoy snuggling up with my gf in front of my regular LCD TV to watch my movies. Why go through all that trouble of jailbreaking when another update will force you to revert? And why go through all that trouble to play a movie on a tablet when I can I play it back perfectly on my hdpc? I have more than a ½ TB of movies and how many movies are on my tablet....just three. Why? Just to show it off to others. In the end each is their own. But I didn't purchase my tablet to just play movies or music. I purchased it for productivity simply. Not saying ipad can't be that, but I prefer to free myself from iTunes. It's a bastard and no hack or mod will make any apple product work my way.
[Xoom General] richardjr:
Thank you for being reasonable, even if I was coming off as some what of a d/ck. We actually do not fully know yet if the Xoom's hi def restrictions are totally related to hardware yet, some on the notion ink board have hinted that it is merely a problem with the OS and that the hardware can handle it, this actually makes sense when you think about it, after all nvidia is first and formost a graphics oriented company. So we could see an OS fix and have a hardware native solution.

Whatever the problem might be, the issue I generally have is that the apple fan boys are quick to dismiss the overall capability of the system in favor of a system that is fully developed, you can't compare nor compete with a system that is fully developed to it's ultimate potential with a system that is just beginning to feel itself out into what it can become. You might love the finished product of the Ipad, but at the same time understand that it has limits that the Xoom doesn't.
[Xoom General] arrtoodeetoo:
If the Adam has a Tegra 2 and can play high quality videos, the XOOM is absolutely capable of it. Right?
[Xoom General] cwizardtx:
I bought an iPad2 tonight to have both :)
[Xoom General] richardjr:
Yes, exactly, the problem seems to be OS related, so fixable.
[Xoom General] ZBoater:
That's the best of both worlds. Enjoy!!! :D
[Xoom General] aohus:
+1 on that one sir. you have no idea how long i was following the tegra 2 story last year. it is disappointing that there's a ton of codec issues on the xoom. I'm quite sure this is a software, not hardware issue.

However, Google/Motorola needs to be aware of this asap. The louder the noise, the more they will do something about it.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Except that the Notion Ink is similarly incapable of high profile h.264@L4.1 or higher video playback. Its a Tegra 2 issue.
[Xoom General] slshults:
win!

i like apple's hardware just fine (my work machine is a macbook pro, which boot into xp) and i still have a 7 year old 64gb iPod and it still works somehow. what i don't like is apple OSes and walled gardens and devices that i can't do what I want with. i like to feel like i own a device. and i guess i might have to admit i'm a bit of a fanboy. i'm pretty bought in to the whole google ecosystem. I've even got a Cr-48 my xoom is sitting on top of.

but the positive side of this iOS vs Android thing is that we're getting some kickass products from the battle. without the fierce competition (in the wake of Apple changing the smartphone market with the first iPhone) we'd all still be stuck on palm/webOS, blackberry or winbloze mobile.
[Xoom General] richardjr:
OK, well I have asked my brother whom is a programer for Motorola what the actual hardware support is and I have posted on the nvidia developer site to explain what the capabilities are hopefully I will get a reply.
[Xoom General] richardjr:
Can the Ipad or Ipad 2 support h.264@L4.1 or higher video, and I mean native hardware, not software, and is the tegra 2 not capable with a software correction while the Ipad or Ipad 2 is, in other words is one device especially deficient as apposed to the other?
[Xoom General] stanglx:
Well... I am for one have switched to the other side - and LOVING IT!

Dont get me wrong - once the Android platform is a little more mature - I will be back! Until then good luck and enjoy waiting for fixes, games, apps and the 2nd generation around the corner.

(You may ask why did I give up my Android - well it was ViewSonic with a TERRIBLE screen. I also found the applications to be very substandard (games, etc.). I am one of those Linux/Java geeks who LOVE recompiling kernels, developing fixes/apps, etc. but for now.. I just wanted something that I would be productive with.

Anyway... I write this for google and other android manufactorers to see... I will be back.. I promise but I will NOT spend $800 on a beta platform ($400 would have taken me)!

I think I chose wisely

READ:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4215/apple-ipad-2-benchmarked-dualcore-cortex-a9-powervr-sgx-543mp2
[Xoom General] mgerbasio:
I have an ipad, pretty much since day 1. How could you not be a fan? It is a market defining device like the ipod. MS has been talking tablets for 10 years and hasn't been able to pull it off. I don't use mine for movies or music and I still like it. For my uses, the Xoom is a better fit as it has a real file system, sd memory, usb hosting, Motorola seems to have warmed to rooting, etc. but my ipad (which I won't be upgrading) is still an excellent device. Android needs a media manager, hopefully a unified Android platform, to compete with ipad for most people. Maybe that will be Google Music?

Thank you Apple for raising the bar. If it wasn't for the iphone we'd be stuck with WM5.0 or a RIM still doing text only emails. As long as Google and Apple are chasing each other devices and innovation will be better and better and we have choices.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
The iPad supports nothing out of the box for obvious reasons. Its a closed ecosystem. The hardware is willing but iOS is unwilling. Installing XBMC however allows my iPad to play up to high profile h.264@L5.1 720p videos before it begins to show signs of stuttering. Everything I have read including a direct quote from the dev behind the XBMC release for iOS who bought a Tegra 2 developer kit to begin the porting to the Tegra 2 platform is that Nvidia's Soc is incapable at a hardware level of high profile video @ L4.1 or higher. That is, with perfect drivers and codecs, that is the maximum it can achieve. The iPad2 will be able to do a lot more than the original iPad most likely. I wouldn't be surprised if it was capable of 1080p high profile @L5.1.
[Xoom General] bobdude5:
SERIOUSLY! I returned my Xoom to Costco on thursday and got my ipad 2 yesterday and I'm extremely glad i did ($400 bucks in my pocket :]). I dont care how "closed" it is, the iPad handles media beautifully. The xoom couldn't even handle the large pdfs i threw at it, zooming and page turning was a stuttering mess (i know its a software issue but still!) while the iPad zips through the pages with such ease. This goes for movies as well, xoom=stutter or forceclose while ipad = smooth. And the apps, wow, they are amazing. Garageband on a tablet is so ridiculously awesome. And now there is a flash player for ipad! The iswifter app for ios played every damn flash video and game i through at it.

While the cameras on the xoom are better, the ipads cameras are plenty sufficient for what most people are going to use them for. Video chat and photbooth lol. For all other stuff i have my Epic 4g which takes beautiful pictures :) Speaking of epic 4g, i can finally use wireless tether now because the ipad supports BOTH infrastructure and adhoc. I know the Wireless tether 3.0 supports infrastructure but it caused my phone to reboot way too much.

For all you people saying the ipad 2 sucks and what not, please do read the anandtech review of it.

I still do hope xoom does well though. If it doesn't, developers won't move their apps from the appstore to the market place:(. Hopefully by the time the Galaxy Tab 10.1 comes out, honeycomb will be a little more mature. I Can't wait to see whats in store for android at google io this year (got my student ticket :) )
[Xoom General] slshults:
Congrats. Go post it on an apple board where someone cares. This is xoom board. it's a xoom dev board even.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Did anyone read the anandtech review of the PowerVR SGX543MP2 that they just posted? Holy testicles, it demolishes the Tegra 2 GPU.
[Xoom General] stanglx:
WOW... SAD..

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4216/...rmance-explored-powervr-sgx543mp2-benchmarked
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Yea, I mean its not even close. Even if you factor in for the Xoom having 30% more pixels by multiplying the Xoom score by 1.3, its not even close (and for the record it makes no sense to do this since each device is stuck with one resolution that cannot change and the penalty for having a higher resolution is lower FPS in games, something the Xoom is going to have to deal with compared to the iPad2. The only reason to do this is to compare general GPU performance of the SoC.). The Tegra 2 just got **** on pretty hardcore, and its been out for what, a couple weeks?
[Xoom General] rjoudrey:
I thought nvidia was working on hardware accelleration for hd video?
[Xoom General] frenzy757:
Google needs to have SOME sort of control over the devices. I understand the open nature and I love that, choice choice choices are GREAT.

I love my Nexus S, however, lets say you are pro apple and are convincing an AVERAGE consumer to buy an Iphone, or an Android trying to convince that same person...

All that apple person has to say is "fragmentation, you might not get the latest software," and bam I think that will scare that non techy away (to someone like that, I bet that sounds REALLLLLY BAD). Not to mention if Netflix only works on CERTAIN devices...that is really bad too....not saying fragmentation is there or anything, but I think that is enough to scare someone away...more so than "Itunes is closed and won't let you customize anything"
[Xoom General] rjoudrey:
fragmentation is irrelevant if the device you own does what you want it to. The Nexus and Xoom are google experience (pure android) and should have the least fragmentation.
[Xoom General] bobdude5:
That's too much for the average consumer to process. Not that the avg consumer is dumb, but the ones that are not techies like we are will not understand pure google.

With that said, I really doubt the avg consumer will be presented with the fragmentAtion info.
[Xoom General] hakujin:
Fragmentation is still an issue when you have a device that does what you want, but then you want to do something 'new'. Then you realize 'new is only support on platform x.x+.

I love Android and prefer my 2.2 to say... iOS 4.2.1, but Google should take a more hardline approach against its product market -- manufacturers but also carriers -- whom are unwilling to update, and in a timely manner.
[Xoom General] rjoudrey:
No platform is more fragmented than Windows. It's like having an old system running 3.1 and *****ing you can't do rdp or run HD video. Android and Windows are similar this way.
[Xoom General] willverduzco:
This thread has run its course and devolved too much. Thread closed.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Meatmuppet:
My Samsung Fascinate, after installing Superclean 2.8 and Froyo, has no internal memory (0.00B). I cannot install any apps and my phone won't remember stuff after rebooting. Any help?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] duongsanhdieu:
Re Up Firmware for Phone Oke.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Meatmuppet:
What?

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