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[Xoom Android Development] :
This doesn't work in the latest version of HC right?

I agree with the guy before me about an easier way. It would be even more awesome if this can be incorporated in a ROM.
[Xoom Android Development] tallnerd1985:
It works on 3.2, just installed today :-)
[Xoom Android Development] :
How did you do that? Whenever I try to do it on 3.2, the Terminal Emulator says something about a file missing. Therefore, it doesn't even install.
[Xoom Android Development] :
Does the kernel in the first post work with Moray? Anyone currently running it with that ROM experiencing random reboots?
[Xoom Android Development] tallnerd1985:
Did you put the /ubuntu folder on the externel sdcard or internel? Because its supposed to be on the internal card.
[Xoom Android Development] :
Hmm, maybe I didn't do that indeed. Gonna try again.
[Xoom Android Development] :
Okay, it's trying to install now. Thanks!
[Xoom Android Development] :
Stuck at configuring some package for the kernel. I can't select OK. Tried also with arrow keys, but nope :(

Edit: never mind, it worked when using the Motorola Wireless Keyboard.
[Xoom Android Development] joe ferreira:
I used this mod on tiamat moray last week with the tiamat kernel.

I can not download the ubuntu_b5.zip file now.

does someone happen to have the file and could post a mirror?
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
its up again
[Xoom Android Development] No47:
How is performance and battery-runtime with ubuntu right now?

Can it be used without hardware keyboard or would that be a pain in the behind?

Would it be possible to:

- use attached usb devices (thinking of a 5.1 usb soundcard, maybe mouse+keyboard via hub)

- run music (in android or ubuntu) + open-office + browser with reasonable speed? (and thereby making my laptop obsolete)

Thanks!
[Xoom Android Development] joe ferreira:
I have the bluetooth keyboard and mouse that came with the atrix 4g HD dock bundle.

With a usb otg cable and a hub you should be able to hookup a keyboard and mouse but bluetooth is a much better solution.

the battery life is not impacted noticeably. I leave it running in the background all day and my xoom is oc'd @ 1.6ghz on tiamat moray. It lasts at least 3 days with normal usage.

normal usage is not my drunk girlfriend playing pandora on the tablet :D

This will not make your laptop obsolete.

you can run open office and broswer in the vnc but your not going to be able to play flash games on facebook anytime soon.

no you can't connect a 5.1 sound card via usb.
[Xoom Android Development] WorstCases:
Guys, I'd appreciate some clarification, please.

I did install the kernel, but ever since I can't boot any more. Device hangs @ Motorola logo.

Did anybody experience this problem yet.

I am using Tiamat-Xoom-Rom-2.2.2.Moray.

So what am I doing from here?

If I do a restore with CWM, I don't restore the Kernel, is that right?

Where do I get the stock Kernel?

I could go back to go back to start with a clean stock Rom, using the fastboot method, I assume. But I'd rather avoid that if somebody can point out another way.

Thanks.

WorstCases
[Xoom Android Development] joe ferreira:
use the tiamat kernel. it works fine. you do not have to use the kernel in this thread to use this mod.
[Xoom Android Development] technolust109:
is this dual boot? because im considering getting a xoom and im wondeing if it cna do dual boot into ubuntu and HC
[Xoom Android Development] WorstCases:
Thank you! Booting again. Now I can work on getting Linux running!
[Xoom Android Development] joe ferreira:
this is not a dual boot environment. this is chroot. think of it as running a second operating system at the same time as android. you can open the android vnc app and it brings up ubuntu. hit home and your back on the android home screen.

the only thing that I would mention for users is that if you do not have a bluetooth keyboard find GOK (gnome onscreen keyboard) or download florence. having the android on screen keyboard overlay vnc is really annoying.

---------- Post added at 09:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:31 AM ----------

your welcome! Tiamat added the information from this thread to the kernel natively quite some time ago.
[Xoom Android Development] leonardoaraujo:
this can work in atrix?
[Xoom Android Development] pintek:
I need to uninstall this completely cause when i'm trying a alternate method for chroot ubuntu i'm getting a terminal error saying loop device exsists an i don't know where it is >.<
[Xoom Android Development] filmaker:
ummm...am I missing something. When I extract it (on my tablet and computer) I just get folders filled with dummy files. And terminal gives me a file not found error.
[Xoom Android Development] joe ferreira:
I am working on that along with a ton of other stuff.

I have been distracted with my Xoom.

:)

it should work but requires the files being modded a little.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
hi all,

since long time I'm touching it again. Actually I'm installing it again on my xoom, because I need to compile mono 2.10 for android what is not possible on x86 without modifying the sources. So I've a 4.0.3 android running and started the install(without the kernel). and how I can see, it's doing what it should.

When I'm done with what I'm doing now, I'll create an App called Ubuntu Droid. It will do the same like the script, but with a bit more comfort. So look here again in a few weeks, maybe the app will be released.

Concerning the software compatibility... that depends on the kernel you are using. It needs to implement things like shm and a few more. when the app is out, I'll try to find a way for compiling this as modules by giving it the url of a kernel source package (most people which are building kernels are posting their sources on github), so you can install the base version, compile the kernel modules and use the full featured ubuntu install.

Regards

Ralph
[Xoom Android Development] ruvort:
That's fantastic news! Thank you for coming back to the project and keeping us updated :-)

Sent from my Droid Incredible 2
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
but it will take a while until I've time for. First I need to finish a two other projects. I think in about two month there will come the ubuntu app into the market. I'll post here when it is so far.

Regards

Ralph
[Xoom Android Development] Walker Street:
Works great on Galaxy Nexus

I followed the first post's instructions (unmodified) and this works great on my Galaxy Nexus :)
[Xoom Android Development] tallnerd1985:
Hi GhostOfTheNet,

Interesting work you have here but after playing with the Bionic/Atrix Web top feature for a while, would it be possible to replicate what Moto has done with their Webtop feature where is it switches it display from Android to Ubuntu then I believe it uses PulseAudioLib to interface with Android's audio manager to output audio. I think the only difference here is that on the Webtop phones, Ubuntu is stripped and interwoven into the kernel and RootFS of Android.
[Xoom Android Development] Sjflowerhorn:
Web top uses a seperate partition called /osh which is booted when selected or docked. I'm assuming this would also require a desperate partition?
[Xoom Android Development] tallnerd1985:
I know about that, did a little kanging on the Bionic to replicate the work down on the Atrix. It is possible to mount an external image on the root from an external mount like the sdcard kind of like they did on Atrix cause their /osh partition was really small. The big difference between chroot and Webtop is that in Webtop, their Ubuntu distro uses a lot of shares libs from the Android RootFS and the files are symlinked to save on space and such instead of a bunch duplicate files for both OSs. We could do that or continue on with a chroot but try to get the view switcher like do on the Webtop phones so that way we don't have to do VNC and we can also route the Ubuntu audio thru PulseAudio which should be compatible with Android's.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
to be honest, I've absolute no plan wht you are speaking about.

here a small status report:

it seems that notandbuntu will die, but not because of the lack of interrest, in the opposite. I got the android toolchain built for android yesterday. That means that maybe, maybe it will be possible in the near future to build gnu utils directly in android(what avoids the crosscompiling problem with autoconf). if that works how i imagine, i'll be able in the next days to build a complete automake envirnoment for android, then apt or another linux package manager, then packages and then you'll be able to say in android for example "apt-get install ssh". it will still need vnc, but maybe we can find someone, writing a xserver for the android gui. after all, maybe android gets finnaly the full power of the gnu world. then... we can send the chroot workaround to hell :D

here is the howto: http://my-android-travels.blogspot.com/2012/02/android-build-system-ndk-toolchain.html

Kind Regards

Ghost
[Xoom Android Development] tallnerd1985:
No worries, keep up the good work. It seems that we both have the same idea but misinterpreted each others comment cause what you have achieve is exactly how Motorola did their Web-top with the "apt-get" within Android. There is a fellow at AndroiX.org who I believe has a fully functional port of xserver for Android that you may want to check out.

P.S.

Is German your native language?
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
You see the austrian flag? :-D

Or am I writing so wrong?
[Xoom Android Development] tallnerd1985:
Haha, no I am using Tapatalk so I don't get all the user details like the full website. It was your previous response to my reply about " I have no plan on what you are talking about" instead of " no idea" which I see a lot with European to English translations.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
Lol. In german usually you say "ich habe keinen Plan" the phrase really means "I have no plan" But it is used the same way like "I have no idea".

Its really sad, this board is one of the last places where you can find intelligent and attentive people.
[Xoom Android Development] tallnerd1985:
Yeah, I live and work in Portland, OR here in the states and its like smolding pot here with people around the world so I pickup on a lot of different languages and there wording structure how it differentiate from American English.

Any who, keep us up to date on your work, hopefully the X server comes to light instead of retarded VNC into chroot. Did you get a chance to look at the work at AndroiX.org to see if its worthwhile?
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
Yesterday I tried out what I've done sunday... didn't really work. But yesterday I recompiled it and here it is.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=22778896
[Xoom Android Development] tallnerd1985:
Looks good, can't wait to see you get a fully functional apt-get implemented with your toolchain. Hopefully we can kang some components from the Ubuntu for Android that was recently announced to get this fast tracked into a more stable build. I know we can hack the display program to work with the devices display instead of over HDMI like they did on the Atrix/Bionic/RAZR.
[Xoom Android Development] Prack:
Is this project done? I was really hoping to see more ubuntu work for the xoom. I'm really enjoying the bt5 stuff done by tiamat/eos team.
[Xoom Android Development] niematunikogo:
do you think it would be possible to get USB host and Ubuntu working together?

I would like to be able to connect xoom to another webcam (remote one via USB or wireless - not the built in one) / or externat printer, or whatever else besides usb storage and I think it would be easier to accomplish in ubuntu. But would such ubuntu "see" devices connected to USB?

thanks for your opinion ;)
[Xoom Android Development] dougvan:
So my install doesnt like me. I am rooted and have BusyBox installed. When i run "sh setupubuntu" i get the following:

mount: can't setup loop device: No such file or directory

mount: mounting devpts on /system/ubuntu/dev/pts failed: No such file or directory

And it continues from there for anything located in the /system/ubuntu folder

/system/ubuntu exists but the only item contained within it is sdcard. I have remounted it rw, deleted the ubuntu folder and started again several times. All it does is recreate the ubuntu/sdcard directory and then errors out.

Thoughts?

Oh, I am also running the OC boot image. Was this ever tested with that?

Thanks!
[Xoom Android Development] niematunikogo:
when I had ubuntu on my N1 I remember I had the same error. The fix was to edit manually the script... it was well covered on a page nexusone-hack? or something, but I cannot find the link and I dont remember the fix exactly. sorry
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
The kernel should not matter. It sounds like the remount fails. Open setupubuntu and execute each step manually on adb to seė whats wrong, tell me and i'll fix. I think what ever goes wrong, is because on my xoom something needed is already done :-( so lets find out what.

Regards
[Xoom Android Development] chiefsalami:
looks like the zip file in the OP is broken. I've downloaded it many times and cannot extract it. It fails with an error, using both the internal built-in Windows zip utility, and 7-zip. Can you please take a look and maybe repost?
[Xoom Android Development] dougvan:
Sounds good. I'll do this tonight when I have a few cycles and give you the results.

Thanks!
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
@chiefsalami

Load it directly to your xoom using firefox or so and use androzip to extract it.
[Xoom Android Development] Salpula:
Thanks for the guide! This is pretty awesome. Is there any chance wine will work with this?
[Xoom Android Development] Jaywan:
I'm getting xoom today when the veri store opens. Just wanted to know will Android market apps still work? Will overclocking still work? Is this a Rom or a full OS. Can we do all the things on it a computer can do such as cook roms? And how do we get back to Android? I need these questions answered please someone.
[Xoom Android Development] Magnesus:
No. Wine can't translate x86 code to ARM code unfortunately. And last I checked they didn't have plans to do it (it would be very slow either way).
[Xoom Android Development] Jaywan:
Wow I got the xoom before an answer what are the odds
[Xoom Android Development] Salpula:
It runs next to android. You open a shell in something like better terminal emulator, run the commands startubuntu and shellubuntu and right there you have a shell, hit exit and back to android terminal. runn shellubuntu again and back in linux. Exit and type vncubuntu. Now you have to open a VNC client and connect to localhost:5901 and you are manipulating the linux that runs on the xoom. CLose the vnc client, right back to android.

As far as cooking roms I have no clue.
[Xoom Android Development] Jaywan:
I plain to developed for the Xoom but I'm trying to get the hang of it more cause it's just a lil different from other android devices.
[Xoom Android Development] JungleJiujitsu:
Ghost, thanks for sharing this, Im looking forward to using it....I've gotten up to typing installubuntu but its been doing "stuff" now for a good 30mins now, is this normal? How long should the install take? What i see a number off different commands and one example is "Err http//ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ maverick/main libxrender1 arme1 1:0.9.6-1" and then underneath it says "Temporary failure resolving 'ports.ubuntu.com'" .... And thats just one example of over 50 different commands now and over 30mins now...
[Xoom Android Development] chiefsalami:
That looks like a network error. You need to have a working internet connection when you attempt this.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
Slow connection, long time. It installs the whole desktop so a lot. As long as there is no apt error and the internet connection is ok, its fine.
[Xoom Android Development] Hyperion82:
Guys, Are u still working on the project ?:confused:
[Xoom Android Development] Shadomastr:
Can we use a mouse with this? That would be extremely appealing.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
Because of the mouse, ill try. Because still working... i asked to tell me what you think where to go, but noone answered to this question.
[Xoom Android Development] JungleJiujitsu:
Its a bit off topic, but is there anyway to get BackTrack and Aircrack working on our Xooms?
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
If it's in the ubuntu repos it's possible that it works without any dirty tricks, start synaptic and try.
[Xoom Android Development] dj_ghosie:
is there any chance to install this using cwm?
[Xoom Android Development] chiefsalami:
Sorry for the off-topic question, but I don't know where else would be more appropriate to ask this. Any thoughts on how to do this on an iPad? I've been trying to search on the internet for any work that someone may have done along these lines (building a ubuntu image using rootstock, mounting, loading up the system, then VNC in) but have not found anything. With a jailbroken iPod, I think all the utilities are there. Just a matter of putting the pieces together correctly. Can someone at least point me in the right direction?
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
concerning cwm, yes but i need to install it first myself. will need a time, but is a good option. will not avoid installubuntu.sh (if you want avoid that, just do it one time and backup your ubuntu.img)

concerning ipad.... difficult. a few things i think would work, but the most will not work because iOS bases on a darwin kernel, android and ubuntu on a linux kernel. maybe there is a possibility to port bsd's linux kernel compatibility to ios, but that would be much work for... an ipad. if you want ubuntu and not the technical playing of such an port, just buy an android tablet, next month there are many nice relative cheap devices releasing. but if you like the technical playing, open somewhere a thread and tell me, i would be interessted in reading about your actions and hopefully success.

concerning the mouse, i'didn't got a bluetoothmouse until now and after importing my xoom and buying 7league boots... my bags are empty so i'll not buy one in the next weeks.

concerning ubuntu natty... maybe this weekend (if nice weather i need to help my parents, so...)

Regards

Ralph
[Xoom Android Development] bob3695:
It seems I don't have very much space on the Linux side of things. Any idea on how to increase space that Linux has access to?
[Xoom Android Development] kizzmyanthia:
Currently the hardware does not support putting the wireless interface into promiscuous mode, therefore no joy on the aircrack-ng, BUUUUT if you check out my work here on XDA - Penetration testing from a Smartphone (h**p://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=842893) you can see that I have currently been doing dev on the idea.

Well, officially, I have a Xoom now, and if Ubuntu is fully functional :D you can guess what will follow.

I will be creating a thread here later with more details.

Cheers!!
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
Space: Until now i have no sdcard in my xoom. As i have one, i'll build a script to install ubuntu onto an ext partition on the sdcard. Then you have up to 32gb for ubuntu.

Wlan: the wireless device is still controlled by the android kernel. With this ubuntu variant you have no choice than to make it working in android. But the kernel drivers are the same, the wireless system... no plan but is/will be opensource, so there should be no problem. A problem is to have no sources of the kernel driver i think.
[Xoom Android Development] Kcarpenter:
I'm going to guess this has already been asked, but any update to our pal Natty Narwhal?
[Xoom Android Development] kizzmyanthia:
The link to download the ubuntu.zip file seems to be down, can you reup or post a new link please.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
hmm... seems that my vserver is down... i'll restart it, then it should work again

regards

edit: up again, link is working

edit2: today i'll start with:

* building an app which installs ubuntu

* porting natty

* usage of a partition on sdcard as an alternative to the image file
[Xoom Android Development] ruvort:
Sounds good :-)
[Xoom Android Development] Shadomastr:
so amped for this, I really am.
[Xoom Android Development] GulMiguel:
OK. As a noob who is fascinated by both Linux and Android in particular (and the XOOM in specific), I saw this thread and I have to ask....why do I want to have Ubuntu (or any other version of Linux) on my XOOM? What is the benefit? I'm seriously asking this - no sarcasm intended. I wanted to know if this is something that I should learn to do and practice with. Any guidance that you folks can share will be greatly appreciated.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
simple answer,

* a lot of mighty console tools

* apache, mysql, samba, nfs & co

* a lot desktop apps (fiirefox + downthemall, etc)

* a lot of fun by playing

* the feeling that you may have something sepecial (when you think by yourself so, not when apple tells you *gg*)

* the though behind opensource and also linux, aside of stability also the freedom to choose differs between a good platform and a bad one. and so only because of the choice it is worth to be done.

regards
[Xoom Android Development] GulMiguel:
Thank you GOTN, I believe I understand what you are referring to. On another unrelated front, I am just starting to learn mySQL and PHP and Apache, so I understand the significance of what you are suggesting. To have basically a Linux workstation on my XOOM does indeed sound like a nice idea. Especially if I can get it to communicate with the Linux server (CentOS) that I have set up at home. At first glance, it all sounds so intimidating, however, if someone can guide me through the steps - so that I don't kill my XOOM - I will be very attentive and very happy. I vow to pay it forward to the next person who needs such help. Thanks again.
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
This do not changes your system. You cannot kill your xoom with this, doesn't matter what you are doing with it. And in the worst case, fastboot flash system repairs all.
[Xoom Android Development] ethanpil:
Any reports on battery life with Ubuntu on the Xoom?
[Xoom Android Development] Shadomastr:
Download still does not seem to be working for me.
[Xoom Android Development] mobius999:
I wonder how Wine would run on the Xoom.... Dammit, now I need a paper towel to mop up the drool.
[Xoom Android Development] xoppaw:
i have had an issue where it won't install bc it says that one of the ubuntu folders already exists... i'm going to try and re-format my xoom and see if i can get this working...i'll post here if i have any issues.
[Xoom Android Development] garnmeister:
Installation time

It's only been touched upon earlier in the thread, but as I am running "sh setupubuntu", how long should it take to finish?

It seems to be running, not outputting anything to the command line though. Mind you I am trying to do this on an eee pad transformer. Figure it should work, it seems like nothing is happening for the last 10 minutes, therefor I am wondering if it has stalled or is working?

EDIT: ok,,, hmmm... Now I'm just getting

test: not found

not root, so need to su

Even though I am root... odd

EDIT2: Executig "su sh setupubuntu" results in " permission denied" so something is wrong with root permission... Oh well, I'll look into it tomorrow
[Xoom Android Development] GhostOfTheNet:
is your transformer rooted?