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[G2 and Desire Z General] djurkash:
That's right, new model replaces old one usually in a year time basis...

HTC DESIRE Z is an excellent choice, and you won't regret it.

This claim comes from someone who changed this year only following devices:

- PALM PRE

- HTC HD2

- SAMSUNG B7330 OMNIA PRO

- SAMSUNG WAVE

- SAMSUNG GALAXY S

- and now last two months HTC DESIRE Z...

@ gerryr what do you have against opt.trackpad?

It is very useful when moving cursor in any text entry related app...
[G2 and Desire Z General] redpoint73:
You're holding out for a tenth of an inch screen size difference? And as already mentioned, the trackpad can be very handy for moving the cursor accurately between text characters.

It would seem very odd for HTC to make a Euro GSM variant of the Merge, basically making it back into a Desire Z (as the specs are almost exactly the same between the DZ and the Merge), which is already widely available in Europe. But who knows, cell phone companies do weird/unexpected things all the time.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gerryr:
I only remember using the optical track on the desire a handful of times, really don't think it's needed.

I take your point though, doubtful they'll release it in Europe given the similarities of the rest of the spec
[G2 and Desire Z General] redpoint73:
I hear ya. Many people on here have mentioned that they find the trackpad useless. But for me, I find it useful, particularly correcting text in SMS or email. I can't place the cursor with single character precision using the touchscreen.

Its also nice if you switch to CM7, or otherwise mod the phone for trackpad button wake. I press the trackpad to wake just about every

time I use my phone now.
[G2 and Desire Z General] chris2busy:
You mean there are people that actually DONT use trackpad to wake their device but instead reach for the top right corner?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Athrun88:
Trackpad wake for the win.. I'd go nuts if I had to use the actual power button all the time =[
[G2 and Desire Z General] bradley_e_smith:
I have checked and can't find out where the setting is to make the trackball work like the power button, can you help me? Oh and I run CM7RC2
[G2 and Desire Z General] Athrun88:
Not sure if it works for CM7, but here's a link you can try

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/trackpad-wake-for-your-htc-desire-z/
[G2 and Desire Z General] ScurvyJ:
I have a G2 and its a terrific phone. The trackpad is basically only my power button since text selection in gingerbread is... well there actually is text selection.

If your phone isn't on fire though I would suggest waiting because there is going to be a wave of dual core awesome coming out this summer so you might as well wait for the next train instead of jumping on the one leaving the station.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mackster248:
I have a myTouch 4G and even though dual cores are around the corner I won't regret this buy. G2 and MT4G's are so quick as it is, I don't really need a dual core. Apps open in an instant and multi tasking is as quick as can be. I say if you just need a new phone now because you can't handle your old slow phone then go ahead and upgrade. The G2 is a very solid phone.

Only hold out for a dual core if you plan on doing some heavy gaming with high graphics. But other than that, go grab a G2. :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] redpoint73:
Settings>CyanogenMod settings>Input, and you will see an option for Trackpad wake under "Buttons".

If you want trackpad unlock (not just wake) you can go to Settings>CyanogenMod settings>Lockscreen>Unlock options. But this seems like an easy way to accidentally unlock your phone while in your pocket.
[G2 and Desire Z General] redpoint73:
Dualcore phones are coming out, but OP was specific about a hardware keyboard. Nothing like that has been announced from HTC yet, so it will likely be some time (has HTCeven announced any dual core phones yet?). So I'm betting it will be at least fall, if not later, before a HTC phone with a comparable form factor to the Vision (but dual core) is released. And frankly for the most part, I don't care about any other manufacturers besides HTC. They always tend to have some combination of cheap housings, poor developer support, and crappy keyboards.
[G2 and Desire Z General] GhostZini:
Why wait troll. You could die tonight for all we know. Enjoy the now. Get your G2 and become a Vatican assassin like us. Do the right thing pal. We're watching you

meXdroid GingerMex Habanero fast
[G2 and Desire Z General] bradley_e_smith:
Thanks, tried it and it did nothing, oh well.
[G2 and Desire Z General] danow11:
If you are using cm7 RC2 you are able to enable trackpad wake and unlock through the cm7 settings
[G2 and Desire Z General] bradley_e_smith:
Where in the settings? I think I have gone through all settings menu and have not seen it, thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ScooterG:
Within Input Settings.

Sent from a bar in Mexico
[G2 and Desire Z General] atlp99:
I having a hardware keyboard is a must have for you I say go ahead and get a G2. HTC is likely going to take longer than other manufacturers to get dual core handsets to market, since they will likely be using qualcom processors. Even the Flyer tablet is running a qualcom single core processor. It will probably be late summer / fall before HTC handsets with dual core qualcom processors come to market. Also, I would bet it will be even longer until one with a hardware keyboard comes out.

If you want a new phone now go ahead and get a G2. It is a great handset, my favorite that I have used (G1, mytouch, HD2 w/ WM then Android, mytouch slide, G2).
[G2 and Desire Z General] nined1talon:
I have had a trio of qwerty HTC phones. The Wing, G1 and now the G2. Even the slow ass Wing had a great solid keyboard, and the G2 is the best yet IMO. As far as speed is concerned...stock they are smooth and responsive and with modding the results are impressive. I've scored a best of 62.9 mflops and 3346 in quadrant. Running a stock version of GB with a mild overclock now and loving life with the G2. :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Simer03:
i went from a Nexus one to a G2 and i really like it! you should get it!
[G2 and Desire Z General] K1ngLouie:
Buy it!

Don't wait buy it and save money. I bought one the other day with discount. It's a fantastic phone and I totally love it. The keyboard is awesome and the screen is excellent. Went from Samsung Galaxy Spica to SE X10 to X10 mini and now DZ so i'm not new in the game. ;)

If you want a physical keyboard this is the ONE! :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] YaKillaCJ:
Get the G2 unless U have anything lower then the 1GHz processors.

I just got it and loaded it up wit CM7 RC2, pershoot Kernel 2.6.32.32 and that **** is the best out. I had the Moto Cliq (1) wit the works and man it just dont compare. I done played wit and rooted Samsung Epics, the HD2, Evo, MyTouch 4G, Samsung Nexus S. None compare but the Epic because it has a Keyboard. The Nexus S is fast but ****. No SD Slot or Keyboard and feels like plastic is a nono.
[G2 and Desire Z General] andrewklau:
If you are going to wait the G3 will be out in about a year and a bit :P (Tmobile's marketing scheme with the 2 year contracts most people get locked to)
[Nook Color General] evopanop:
Ok so I'm rooted with Nooter 3 and have 1.1ghz kernel running and loving my $199 tablet. Only problem so far is getting Root Explorer to work right. I want to install my Swift Keyboard but when I try to change /System/App to R/W it doesn't change. I can change the root folder but not /System or lower. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for any help,

Don

EVO 4G and Nook Color w/1.1 and OC
[Nook Color General] brad0383:
Get super explorer, its free and it will mount r/w. I have the same problem with root explorer.
[Nook Color General] lyam23:
That's strange, as I've got the same setup as you (though I rooted with Monster Rootpack) and I was able to do exactly what you're trying to just yesterday.

Try fixing permissions via Clockwork, perhaps?
[Nook Color General] mg00000:
Hi. I am having an issue with the wifi after trying to use root exp. to paste in a wpa_applicant file. The R/W toggled, and worked, and i was able to set permission changes, but it went wrong and i cannot get wifi to come back on. I've booted again several times, plus i've tried reversing it, get the old file named back to original name, but that isn't doing anything to help. Does Clockwork help if you've screwed something up with the root exploring? Anyone have an example of an attempt at fixing something in the system/bin structure?

thanks much :D

EDIT: this has been solved. I put the fix outside if the folder and then also renamed the wpa supp folder and this worked.
[Nook Color General] Dahsar:
When I had issues with root explorer not going into r/w or vise versa I just installed busybody from the market
[General Questions and Answers] tnbrewer:
Hello Everyone.

New to android. Had this phone 5 days, Droid inc 2.2 rooted with unrevoked all was good. Flashed chingys re-engineered from rom manager. It didnt work. Now recovery screen options other than reboot take me to hat screen and freeze. Also titanium force closes upon install, as does rom manager. I checked wipe and backup from rom manager before flash but cant find backup. Phone works as normal, phone text internet etc. Just cant do anything in root. SU is in my app drawer. Please help! Im getting nervous.
[WebOS Software Development] masker:
Pre 3 seems great, the keyboard looks solid, screen is gorilla glass, 3.6" is way better than 3.1" curved pebble shape means it will feel great in hand and while 1250 mAH seems low this is a 2nd gen snapdragon so it does require lower power to operate.

what you think its chances of success ?
[WebOS Software Development] Tachi91:
I would buy it.. but it should've come out last year
[WebOS Software Development] ldudiaz:
I am waiting for it. I'm currently using a Pre-, have used other phones but keep coming back to webOS
[WebOS Software Development] edfungus:
I kind of want to jump from a nexus one to a pre3; however, it needs to have T-mobile 3g. :/
[WebOS Software Development] cobrahicks:
i'm currently on the Evo and debating between getting the Xoom(Wi-Fi Only) or the Pre3 and the Touchpad. Just waiting for some more details
[WebOS Software Development] contradude:
The processor its using wasn't out last year.
[WebOS Software Development] Tachi91:
No, but i meant the phone in general, even with a decent processor from last year... The overall phone being released early last year or even in the middle it would've been good for HP.. My opinion
[WebOS Software Development] auTONYmous:
I just ordered an unlocked GSM Pre2 for use on AT&T (freebie, zip, zero, nada). Why? Because it's free, and because I can deal with it until something better than the Pre3 hits the market.

Even though I actually *WORK* for HP, I don't have a whole lot of faith in the Pre3's chances at success...Now, if HP can manage to get a BETTER mobile device out by Q4 '11/Q1 '12, then there may be hope.

Notably missing from Pre3: 4G (at least HSPA+ support on GSM, or some sort of LTE on other carriers). It's shameful for a new phone to launch in Summer '11, and it's NOT 4G. *EFFING SHAMEFUL*

I personally would also prefer a landscape slider, but that's only because I've never had a Palm, and have had two Touch Pros (TP1, and TP2) for the last two years. I've gotten used to the larger keyboards. If they do it, I WILL buy it. Plain and simple.

BTW - I watched the Feb 9 event. I was excited waiting for the Pre3 to blow my socks off, only to be underwhelmed. I DO really like the TouchPad, which is the one thing I wasn't expecting to get excited about. Go figure.
[WebOS Software Development] kapanak:
Honestly, I have tried a Pre...for 30 days. I liked it, but it wasn't tempting enough for me to switch from Nexus One to it. I received a Pre2 from a good friend (who got two for free), and I have used it extensively for about a month now.

However, I still use my Optimus 7 (WP7 device) for daily use, and despite all of WP7's shortcomings, I would not recommend Pre2 over a WP7 device.

Pre3 could have been a success if and only if HP delivered like Apple; Introduce the product, then release it within one month.

Of course, mobile landscape is FAR from being decided. Android's rise was surprising in 2010. WP7 might pull off something similar (now with Nokia on board as well), and you never know, HP might just sell a lot of WebOS devices. However, Pre3 is not going to be a great success. WebOS, since HP will put it in EVERYTHING, will be a success and an appealing platform for developers, but not so much when it comes to smartphones.
[WebOS Software Development] mfranov1:
Hi,

I have Pre and will buy Pre 3. I had few Android phones (HTC Desire, SE X10 and Moto Milestone (Droid in US) and Windows mobile (SE X1 and TP2) and i must say that Android doesn't come nowhere near the effortless usability of WebOS out-of-the-box and with few apps.

I am using it for managing tasks, calendars, contacts and notes (private and business with Exchange) and I must say it is working without any problems. Unlike Androids, especially with Exchange. I am not a FB or Twitter user so I won't comment on that.

I don't need mega screens (I had them and I would trade it for physical keyboard any time) or black slabs since I want the phone to be pocketable. I actually really like the Pre's form factor, small and convenient. And Pre 3 will have better build quality, higher resolution, better keyboard, better screen and faster speed. It will also feature new WebOS - the OS that I like most.

I tried the WP7 and frankly, I don't want to go to old Palm OS functionality (single tasking) just for the sake of looks, which I also get tired with fast (I have been testing the Omnia 7 for two weeks and returned it back). MS can pull it off but I think that in this incarnation it is just not worth it. Beside i have the same restrictions on the marketplace as I do with Palm on both Android and WP7 (only free apps, no paid ones).

So, yes, I will buy it when the time comes. My wife already put a reservation on my Pre which she also prefers over her current SE X8.

Marijan
[WebOS Software Development] Leeboy:
If Sprint sells it, I will probably buy it. I love Web OS and it's multitasking capabilities, just can't stand that small screen with no flash 10.1:(
[WebOS Software Development] Jive Turkey:
I'm super excited about it. I just got a pre- to play with because my G2 won't sync with my work Exchange calendar and I need to send it off for repair. I'm so impressed by the pre- I might sell the G2 when it gets back. There's only 2 things I don't like about the pre- hardware, and pre3 addresses both those things. Processor speed is the first, which I can forgive because it's a 2009 phone. Resolution is the second, although I like the 3.1 inch size. My G2's screen looks much better because of the higher res, but I wish the phone wasn't so big and it's battery life is terrible which I think the screen is a large contributor to battery drain.

Pre3 is looking like the perfect phone for me :)
[WebOS Software Development] Jive Turkey:
I hope this doesn't offend you, but you sound like a spoilt brat. 4G isn't available everywhere yet. Some countries don't have it at all. I'm sure it's very nice, but for many it's not "notably missing", it's an unnecessary (unusable even) luxury.

I just got a pre- to use while my G2 is being repaired. I agree with you that large landscape keyboards are awesome, but I wouldn't dismiss the smaller portrait keyboard if I were you. I think the pre- keyboard is just as good as the G2's. I was quite surprised actually because it looks so small. I think it's the fact that I don't have to turn my phone that makes up for it's size.
[WebOS Software Development] Jive Turkey:
Shouldn't this be in the General section, rather than Software Development?
[WebOS Software Development] LDJ:
Had a Pre- from launch day and *loved* it. However, it kept breaking and O2 refused to repair it any longer and gave me a Galaxy S. Lovely handset but I miss WebOS. I can't wait for the Pre3 to hit the UK and I'll buy on launch day. However, they're shooting themselves in the foot be announcing it without a release date. Specs look great by today's standard, but it needs to hit soon. Maybe launch with the Touchpad and do an offer on buying both? I'd be all over that like a rash!

WebOS is SOOOO superior to Android and iOS its beyond belief. I just have little faith in HP's ability to execute!
[WebOS Software Development] Tachi91:
oh god...eeww lmao
[WebOS Software Development] i_maq:
Can't say anything about Pre3's chances of success but when it's out I'll be replacing my Pre+ with one. I've used all the major mobile OS's (except BB) and WebOS is the one that I feel most comfortable on. After using iOS and WP7 and Android I kept coming back to my Pre+. Once you've used WebOS, Android feels clunky and iOS feels like a toy. I've been using WebOS as my everyday OS for 9 months now and occasionally I switch to my HD2 (running either Android or WP7) and I just hate it! Sure Android's come a long way since I got my HTC Hero GSM, (then switched to Moto Milestone) but there's just too many keypresses involved to get stuff done! It's how I felt about Symbian S60 (used it for 5 years before switching to Android) and now WebOS makes me feel that way about Android!

The only things that have been bugging me about my Pre+ is the lack of some apps I like to use on iOS/Android and the low screen res. The Pre3 resolves my screen woes with that 3.6" 800x480 screen (which I know will make the OS even more beautiful) and the apps, well hopefully as time goes by and HP pushes WebOS onto millions of devices that will solve itself.

Another thing is the portrait keyboard, landscape keyboards just don't do it for me. The Pre keyboard is a love or hate item. I love it, and if what the early reviewers are saying about how good the Pre3 keyboard is then bring it on!
[WebOS Software Development] qipengart:
What do people here think the battery life will be like on this device?
[WebOS Software Development] churro7:
personally I will be jumping from samsung epic to pre 3

webos is best for my usage and needs
[WebOS Software Development] 2sslow:
Ive used a pre - and plussed one able to oc to 1.2. I also created over 20 patches (some of you might know who I am) so I do love WebOs. I love the elegance of WebOs but until there are real apps (really how many twitter apps do we need) Ill have to wait. The pre3 looks great but if it suffers from the slow app opening syndrome like the Pre-,+, and 2. i will definitely have to pass. Maybe by pre4 hp will get their **** together.
[WebOS Software Development] deCorvett:
Definitely you haven't tried a Pre2...

-- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
[WebOS Software Development] 2sslow:
Actually......... I have one and my evo blows it away at opening apps.
[WebOS Software Development] william1999:
Jbougth a pre just for the fun of it and have to say this phone rocks! Have a hd2 with android for surf at home, a nokia E7 at work (batterylife). But the palm pre are going to be with me at work in the future.
[WebOS Software Development] techobsessive:
If I can get a Pre 2 for free through the dev program, I will def. make the switch from Android to WebOS. Android, with all of its customization, is so boring too me. Its open source and yet nothing is ever rewritten (UI and interaction) [Oh, and all the ROM devs, you do an amazing job, just not what Im lookin for]. Ill save until the Pre 3 on Verizon hits, then get a touch pad. The unification between the two is just awesome. Touch to share and answering calls and texts on the tablet while your phone is in the pocket...gah Im in love with the Idea. Touchstones are awesome. Yes, app selection is small, but looking at my current app usage (10-15), ill be darn fine. I use music, web, facebook, a wee bit of twitter, and a few games here and there, and with HP's muscle, I believe they can push apps. Especially with all the stuff that webOS is going to be on. Being able to natively print to wifi printers from the Pad is awesome, no one can beat it.

So, I think the Pre3 will be a mid-success, and the Pre4 or whatever will be like the Moto Droid of Android...a major boom.
[WebOS Software Development] xTmDarren:
I just baught a pre off ebay cheap to play with.... I figured if I like it I would wait til Sprint gets a 4g versions ( my guess is the pre 4 will either be LTE or Wimax ).. maybe then I will dump my Epic4g..
[WebOS Software Development] JRK-Scope:
Technically, the HP Veer on AT&T launched with 4G support (HSPA+ isn't really 4G imo but yeah), so I'd expect the Pre3 to have it too.

I'm hoping to get a WebOS slab as my next phone. I don't need a hardware keyboard.

If HP want to guarantee a purchase from me, they will make a 4" qHD device with the same chipset as the Touchpad and HTC Sensation. And 11mm or thinner. I would jizz all over that handset.
[WebOS Software Development] LazPL:
Alright... First, AFAIK, there is in fact no 4G GSM in the US, just HSPA+. Which is more like 3.5G, whatever your carriers call it...

Second, I'm also post HTC TP, and I got myself (bought!!) a Pre2 from the UK a few months ago. YOU WILL NOT be disappointed. As u can see from my status I've been here at XDA for ages & am what u could call a power user, up to and including cooking ROMs for myself during the TP days. Now I don't have to. The Pre2 is a PLEASURE to use.

Third. Even if you have theoretically high speeds (I've had 7.2 Mbps for a couple of years), what you ACTUALLY get will differ wildly. I'd say the average is maybe 20-30% of the possible speed. That is network dependent and nothing you can do anything about.

The Pre2 is a wonderful phone. It's smaller than the big clunky android phones out there, nice in the hand, the OS is a dream, and even if I (living in Sweden) don't have access to paid apps I can't really complain, got everything I need. But first and foremost, I don't have to "fiddle" with the phone all the time, like back in the Touch Pro days... It just works.

Personally I don't see a reason to get a Pre3, except maybe in order to get a fresh unactivated pre so that I activate it in an "official" country, so that I can finally actually buy apps.

I think you'll find your new Pre2 a quite refreshing experience...

Good luck.
[WebOS Software Development] Airfare:
I really feel that the past palm pre had the best look and design compared to other phones but wish theyd slim it down as it is kinda thick. Hoping the rumours of a keyboardless hp pre may come out soon or if ever will solve this matter, surely i'll be on it from the get go.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SheWolf88pr:
The sd card has never given me an issue, I can always make changes to it and the phone reads it fine. But when I go to recovery mode to flash a rom it gives me an error that it can't mount the sd card. I've already rebooted the phone, took the card out and still the same. Any opinions? Do I have to format the card or something? I really want to avoid that
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] othan1:
A noble request. I, too, would like the solution to this if there is one. The specific error I receive is "E:Unable to open ums lunfile (No such file or directory)"

Thank you.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hammerbrain:
I had same/similar problem and had to format the card in the phone

not

in a computer. Would not convert to ext4. Back up your card, format, and install CWM. Transfer back your folders. Worked for me..:)
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MysteryEmotionz:
What he said.

Sounds like your cards have became corrupted. Just back up what you want to save to your pc. Format the sd card using cwm.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] othan1:
I guess I was misreading the post.

I thought you were saying that when you attempted to Mount your SD card you received an error as I did. I had no problems converting to ext4 and installing ROMs, my error only occurs when I attempt to use the Mount SDCard function.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hammerbrain:
Maybe this can help you.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10294910