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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] siulmagic:
sorry about that, i messed up the links, they should be working fine now.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Shaquiel Harris:
Think the ? Button will be fixed soon?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] siulmagic:
not unless someone edits the keyboard files, witch i dont know how to do.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Spastic909:
Sure wish sense used the g2 physical keyboard layout...I've been hoping for that myself
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Shaquiel Harris:
I absolutely love this ROM. I really do but the question mark thing is kind of bothering me. Best battery life I've ever had on android running this ROM. Definately becoming a backup.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TrueYears:
loving the rom but so far widgets resize themselves every so often and landscape mode but thats only cos there no landscape for desire HD so we will have to wait for Sense 2.3 for G2/Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] siulmagic:
Hopefully we get a leak soon
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] henrylouis:
ok ive been doing a search and cant find the new kernel i feel like a noob for asking but could someone link me
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MrFrankfromCM:
If you're talking about Pershoot's latest Kernel....try looking on page 2 and you'll see [Kernel] 2.6.32.33 – oc-uv-neon_fp (1.516ghz) – g2.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
it specifically says

so why would you suggest anyone to use this kernel with this ROM??? either you're lying if you say everything works as it should, or you haven't tested it enough to figure out what isn't working as it should... if pershoot says don't use it with something specifically, there is obviously a reason...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] siulmagic:
pershoot probably ment that for froyo based sense roms, not for gingerbread since at the time there were only froyo based sense roms, but now his gb kernel's seem to work on gingerbread sense, he ether has a hybrid bootclasspath or the bootclasspath no longer matters for some gb roms.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Shaquiel Harris:
Been using it since it came out on this ROM. He said not to use it because some things he thought wasnt optimized or whatever for sense based roms.. i asked him and he answered it for me (check thread i forgot which post) but everything works fine. as it should.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] siulmagic:
btw guys im in the process of porting the desire S rom, so i will most likely discontinue development for this rom in particular. here's a preview and whats working so far http://android-maisters.thedevboard...sense21_gingerbread_23303-18-11unreleased#824
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] prittyboy203:
Nooooooooo Haha why this is the best port Rom I've ever used or I mean using lol. Is the other Rom not the (desire hd) but its the (desire s) instead. And is it the same thing as this but more stable files or something? Ether way I'm going to download and flash it your works the s#it lol looking forward to the full stable Rom release.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MrFrankfromCM:
Great work! Eagerly waiting!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] siulmagic:
well the desire s is a better candidate since its not a leaked rom, but a full ruu official release, im still sorting out wifi, as soon as i get it fully working il make a release.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] prittyboy203:
Ohh got you that's what I was thinking cuz it looked the same but I figured it was a solid build good work will be looking out for the new Rom release ;-)

Edit: also I looked again at the pic and it looked like you where connected to WiFi real quick and it registered your address. Just curious what is wrong with the WiFi? Is it now sending any data or is it just the files are screwy lol just curious:-)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] siulmagic:
it just fails to optain an ip adress for now, btw the pull down menu the settings tab and notification, are alot slimer than the dhd ginger sense rom.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Shaquiel Harris:
How's the desire s build coming along? wanting to flash it before i leave lol :p
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] siulmagic:
well iv got video playback/hd video playback working, wifi stil does not optain ip, although data works fine.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MrFrankfromCM:
Nice! I Never use wifi....so can I try the ROM??? LOL
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] siulmagic:
ok guys back to topic =P, you know were to go for the desire s discuccion
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rmk40:
There are way too many thread where this is relevant and I think it is important enough to warrant its' own thread. I can confidently confirm the 26.06.02.27 is the source of many battery drain issues. I'd been battling battery drain on standby using CM7 for the past week and narrowed it down to the radio.

If you are using Virtuous or CM7 (I obviously use both), I recommend using either 26.04.02.17 or 26.03.02.26. Both radios are offered here:

http://files.virtuousrom.com/vision/radio/

Please do not discuss HOW to flash radios in this thread. There are many guides on that subject. Mods, if you think this should be part of the other threads, I understand. There's just so much misinformation out there I wanted to make sure to get my findings out there.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mejorguille:
Finally some common sense! I too arrived at the conclusion that the radio was the cause of the dramatic battery drain, but only after pulling my hair out and removing most every app and turning off all syncing. I've been on the .26 radio since yesterday and battery is back to normal.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Hosermage:
How did you determine that? I've been using this radio for two weeks now and I have not notice any drain. Just last night, I charged my phone at around 30% after two days of use.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rmk40:
Without changing any other configuration, I've done tests over the past few nights with the phone on standby the entire duration without being touched. Using the .27 radio, I was seeing 5-6% drain per hour, versus 1-2% with the .17 and .26 radios. Nothing else changed and my usage was constant.

If you're having success with the .27 radio, you're probably an exception. I suspect most people are going to have problems with it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pfak:
I had the exact same issues with the 26.06.02.27 radio as well, excessive battery drain.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] infamousjax:
You need to take into consideration that these radios perform differently depending on the location of the user which is why it's impossible to determine which radio is actually the "best".
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pfak:
That's not true either, WWE are the "generic" radios that have decent performance in all areas. It's the provider specific radios that generally have the issues.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hungyellow:
I do kind of notice more than usual normal drain when I use my phone but when it is on standby it is awesome. I can keep it on standby for 4 hours and the battery will still read 100%. I have flashed the lib files associated with this radio also.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ihateusernames:
I have been running the .27 radio for a couple weeks and see no excessive drain. I had drain issues a couple times before using the .27 radio but those were determined to be from a stray app and market updating issues.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bongd:
Oh snap. I just changed to that radio last night. I did notice a bit of battery drain but not as much this morning. I'll continue to use it and see what happens. I've heard that the reception with this radio is apparently really good which is why I'm trying it.

We'll see what happens. Thanks for letting us know, rmk40! Hopefully I fluke out and it doesn't cause excessive battery drain though :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rmk40:
Of course but keep in mind this radio was released for the Australia market. No where else yet. So it's not that surprising it's causing drain for most people.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ChronoReverse:
Didn't change much for me. I was hoping for improved reception but didn't get that either :(
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] chief2842:
I have to agree with the OP. I flashed the Aus radio to fix my GPS in which it did but having using my phone for like 3 hrs lastnight and draining down to 9% left I had to flash the TMO OTA radio back. After flashing the .26 back and running fix_permissions my GPS is working and my battery life is better.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bstylz911:
can anyone make a recovery for this?

.26

for some reason flashing through computer wont work for me -___-

thank you in advance.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bigmoew:
I havent noticed a drain using SenseGinger 1.0.1
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Spastic909:
I updated hoping it would solve gps with newest nightlies but no bueno. My battery has actually improved. I'm on 26 hours with 22% life left on moderate use
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Shaquiel Harris:
Let's put it this way. The .27 does in fact give off a serious battery drain, in certain areas. Seems like us on the west get significant battery drain while those on the east like it more. Maybe?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bstylz911:
i live on the west and i do notice a battery drain.

but .27 is the best radio with the fast 4g speeds for me

.26 was horrible when it came to that

going to try .17 and will report back

Update :

4g speed is good. Not as great as .27

Battery so great far is great so I'm happy :)

Reception is the same so far as well.

Will report back in a few days.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Shaquiel Harris:
Tell me how .17 goes.

Maybe in a few months, .27 will be good for all of us. Just im tired of killing myself over this damned .27 radio. im back on .26 and i dont think im going to leave it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bstylz911:
Why do u choose .26 rather than .17?

Look at my update.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] eXase:
Well I'm on the network it was designed for in Australia and it works perfectly fine, haven't actually noticed any differences in battery life at all. But signal appears stronger.

But again, thats because I'm specifically on the network it was designed for. Which is odd because the Vision isn't even out yet
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Beast11:
Hmmm thats odd. Cause i switched to 04 yesterday and noticed EXCESSIVE battery drain compared to the 06 radio... For example as of right now, I'm at 26% and it has only been 8.5 hours...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Shaquiel Harris:
About to flash in a moment. Never ran this Radio honestly. Gonna finish Recalibrating my battery first then ill flash this.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] adipradana:
I have to agree with this post. My desire z has about 2 to 3 hours less battery life with 27 compared to the stock 26 that came with it. Not much.. but certainly does drain more. And i didn't get any improvements in reception either. It also didn't fix gps issues in cm7. Guess i'm going back to 26.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bongd:
Does anyone know which particular bands this affects?

I hear talks of West and East but I'm not familiar with which regions or carriers you guys are talking about.. I presume US providers but I'm from Canada and using the Rogers network.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Shaquiel Harris:
wait.. so the .17 radio is bad now..?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Hot_Hands:
I've only had weird battery drain issues twice. Both were overnight. Other than that this radio has been solid for since it released.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dustrho:
Yeah, I'm getting very good battery life on the .27 radio under Virtuous 1.0.1, and my DL/UP speeds are extremely good. I previously was running the OTA .26 and went straight to .27, but because of this thread I may give the .17 radio a try to see how that holds up. I do know that with the .27 radio battery life sucks on any of the CM nightlies and ROMs, so hopefully running .17 or even .26 will help this out.

The .27 ROM was solely designed for those in Australia?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bstylz911:
so let me understand something, .27 is only bad on CM roms???

.27 works good on SENSE?

because honestly .27 on Virtuous wasnt bad.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
There is another thread around that discusses having the radio and the ril.so files that came with that rom being used together. I must say that I was having the battery drain issue with the Aussie radio before adding the ril files. Now it is the same as tmobile stock ota radio with a bit better reception and 3G handoffs. Might be the solution for you too...

Oh and this is on CM6.1.1
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dustrho:
My results with .27 radio...

Virtuous

awesome battery life

strong data/voice signal

Cyanogen

poor battery life

good data/voice signal
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] martonikaj:
Updating to the latest radio didn't cause

serious

battery drain for me, but it was enough to be noticeable. I found that my phone lost maybe 15%-20% or so battery life switching to this radio over the last couple days of using it. I was getting ready to flash back to my previous radio (26.03.02.26) when I saw this thread. Very good to know I'm not the only one!

It should also be said that the latest radio causing battery drain didn't offer me any better signal strength or data speeds, I was getting numbers consistent with my old radio.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bstylz911:
so now your on .26?

are 4g speeds slow for you?

im in the usa if it matters, and it is very slow for me.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] martonikaj:
My area doesn't have HSPA+ ("4G"). All I have is HSDPA (like "3.5G" I guess). My area is really blanketed in it, though. I get consistant 1.8mbps down / 1.8mbps up. Nothing ever lower than 1.6mbps down/up. Late at night (fewer users on the towers) I can get quite close to 2.0mbps down/up, which is not bad for HSDPA. Can't wait to see what I can pull once they light up HSPA+ here.

Like I said this is true with both radios. But the stock one it came with (26.03.02.26) does offer me better battery life for sure.

The 4G speeds if you're really on HSPA+ are quite dependent on your area and how many users there are. What speeds are you seeing?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bstylz911:
With virtuous .27 most I got was 5mbps up/down

With .26 most I can get is bearly 1mbps

With .17 I can get 3mbps up 2.7mbps down
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bstylz911:
I thought cyanogen was suppose to have superb battery -____-
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dustrho:
I can tell you with the .27 radio I was getting ****ty battery life. That's saying it nicely. I would get anywhere between 6-8 hours before dropping below 40%.

Just flashed .17 on my phone (which I never used, previous was .26 OTA), and just the DL/UP results are impressive. I hit 8.03 DL and 3.19 UP and averaged about 5/2 after running the test ten times.

I hope the battery life turns out to be just as impressive.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] klmsu19:
I'm glad others are seeing this too. I had seen this a while ago and posted in the other radio thread only to be called stupid saying there was battery drain.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] martonikaj:
Pretty clear he was stating it was the radio causing battery drain on CM7.... Any ROM can have sh*tty battery life if you have a bad radio combo with it.

Thats solid with Virtuous / .27 radio.

Like I said I don't have HSPA+ in my area so I can't really do a comparison for you. I guess if you're not seeing terrible battery drain and the speed is important to you, you can keep that .27 radio :P
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dustrho:
You are correct. I was referring to the battery life being poor while running .27, but for whatever reason it was running exceptionally well with Virtuous (Sense).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bstylz911:
Ya right now I have .26 and unable to get 4g speed. Stuck at edge for some reason.

Guess ill go back to .27
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
Ha! this is one funny thread....

For me all it took was flashing the AUS radio two different times too see that it just was not meant to be used on my phone...it dumbfounds me that some people think this radio is better than there T-mobile radio. Placebo is a POWERFUL POWERFUL effect.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] klmsu19:
Actually I think most people here are agreeing its not the best radio. It may or may not give better reception, but at the cost of the battery it's not worth it for the <10db difference. I have my high doubts it does anything for data speeds that can be proven beyond placebo or normal differences in time of day or network traffic in your location.

My theory is it may be pushing more power to the radio to give that slight increase in reception. Either way, not worth the noticeable battery decrease.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
What you say may be true.....in regards to the radio using more power....but trust me, there is so much more that goes into these radios than just the power they are using on your phone. The AUS radio is completely different for over half of the settings that are there in the T-mobile US radio. Anyone can open up the files in these radios with a basic .txt editor and see what I am talking about.

Again, it makes me laugh when I see people posting (T-mobile US users) that this AUS radio has magically granted their phone another 500k/b a second of download speed and yada yada yada....rofl
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] PatrickHuey:
This is why I love this dev forum.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hungyellow:
So to the tmobile users, which radio have you seen that works the best alternative to this aus radio? I am looking to switch to one that saves power when working.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bstylz911:
.17 has slow data speeds and sometimes can't get 4g but great battery life.

.26 average on both speed and battery

.27 great in speed and average on battery life.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Shaquiel Harris:
Same Here.

Guys guys, to make things more clearer for us to understand, when you post your results, PLEASE post your city/state you live in a because it does play a part in this, your carrier, and make it clear in what Radio you switched from or are running. And also post what ROM your running please. The reason i ask for ROM because honestly with these Radios, they all work great running sense with my results. all barely use any battery when i check whats using battery in settings. .27, .26. .17 all use under 10 percent of battery. on cm7 and other 2.2 ROMS, .27 used a record high of 46 percent of the battery for me.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kara mustafa:
I have .27 and during night(12h) i lost 16% with data on(Edge) so i think it is not a lot. I want to try .26 or .17 but should I after flashing radio make wipe or something?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Smartenup:
I am using the AUS radio with Gingervillian 1.5 ROM and it's working pretty good for me.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
I couldn't get a gps lock for nothing with this radio... went back to the 04.02.17 radio and also noticing better battery life =)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Spastic909:
Austin texas(where I'm at). Went 29 hours before I plugged in(still at 16%) but I also got a mugen not long ago so I can't tell any differences. Data speeds are the same, around 6Mbps, wifi still same(12 to 15 Mbps), gps is the same. Battery seems better but that's the only difference I've noticed.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tangiers:
I have noticed a definite improvement in call quality on the Aus radio (compared to the stock Bell radio) and signal strength. But then I am in Australia(I am on Telstra which has the same frequencies as AT&T. But the only carrier here with the Desire Z is Vodafone which doesn't use the 850 band).

I haven't had any problem with battery drain but then I have an 1800 battery. Now that everything is working with Rc2 (gps included), I am going to leave well alone...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crazyC:
I am using the .27 radio in the UK - seems to have a little better reception than the stock one (certainly with Virtuous). I still have issues occassionally in my house where I may lose reception, generally only briefly and not as bad as I had with the stock radio.

I suspect that (a) network is not that good here and also (b) the DZ is not marvelous for reception either.

Battery wise, even with my poor reception (jumping between 3G+, 3G, Edge and G, I get standby (with low normal use, but with email and facebook etc updating) a use of about 2% per hour, maybe just under.

Doesnt seem too bad to me for here?

I am using CPU tuner with the advanced kernel so some undeclocking when in standby.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kara mustafa:
I had the same battery drain with advenced kernel. I flash today .17 and it seems to drain my battery faster than the new radio but it is the first day so mayby phone need time to cooperate with .17 :d

@rmk40 did you make any wipe after flashing a new radio?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] .A.J.:
My experience is the same. The first time I flashed this radio I noticed a little extra battery drain and some improvement with regards to reception and 3g/4g switching. I went back to the .26 radio. After reading the update to that thread I switched the appropriate files along with the new AUS radio and haven't had any problem with battery drain since. I am in South Florida, on T-Mobile, using CM7-RC2 (yes, my GPS works).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bstylz911:
So people are only getting the battery drain when their on CM ROM correct?

I'm on Virtuousrom with .27 and battery life is fine to me.

I'm in Las Vegas, NV

What is your guys average battery life?

I can get through close through 6am through 4pm with about 40% left of battery. ( a lot of txting, a few calls, on and off with 4g. )

ON STANDBY - 11pm through 6am i only get 3% drain battery.

WHAT IS THE BATTERY LIFE FOR THE G2 SUPPOSE TO BE?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mrbmg:
So thankful someone finally noticed this, I thought I was going crazy. Reception in Midlothian, Texas was just about the same with the AUS radio but my battery life has been pure ****. I don't think I got over 10 hours the whole time I had that radio.

Switched back last night to .17 and I'm at 10.5 hrs @ 86%. Ty RMK for the notice.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bstylz911:
what rom are you using?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Shaquiel Harris:
Loving the .17 radio with gingersense.. just i think i may have to revert to .26 because i can't sign in to HTC Hub.. reception seems kind of weak.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
which version of ginger sense? because one of them, htc hub is not working on, and the other is... homer sp version, htc hub is not fixed...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Shaquiel Harris:
Using Magic's HD port. In the OP though he said it signs in fine. You try using Pershoot's GB kernel on this? a pal is using it on Homersp's build and says its fantastic. i want to try it but the stock kernel is perfect.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] amazinglarry311:
I think your assertion is incorrect. I haven't experienced any problems whatsoever with battery drain.

do you have conclusive data our are you just stating a "fact" discovered in your limited use?