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[Windows Phone 7 General] thesecondsfade:
Seriously guys, how are you that upset because of a delay in the copy and paste update? How much do you even use copy and paste on a smartphone? The only useful thing coming in NoDo is the Marketplace search fix and the speed increase in loading games.

I don't even think I'm going to update mine until Mango, or at least until they have a Homebrew solution. I can deal with the extra 10 seconds to load Fruit Ninja if that means keeping my Homebrew apps and Twin Blades (which will likely go away after the update).

I'd do the update if they included the few annoying features I don't like, like saving the camera settings, pause playback when disconnecting headphones on an incoming call, etc. but not for copy and paste. You lose more updating than you gain.

Apple was able to do updates easily and quickly within months because there was 1 piece of hardware. Obviously all WP7s are not created equal with the Samsung update situation. Microsoft is going to work out the kinks during the first couple updates. It will be smoother and there will be less time between updates as time progresses.

Anyone saying they're going to get rid of their WP7 to get an iPhone or Android is ridiculous. For copy and paste? Really? WP7 outshines those phones by far.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lekki:
Something about the update stinks.

I really do hope MS makes whatever OEM screwed up pay if that is the case (Samsung).

If it's the carriers, go Apple on them when WP7 gets big, which they will by the way, update fiasco or not.

I guess the main problem is, when we think update, we think easy bug fix. Not this complicated mess we have on our hands.
[Windows Phone 7 General] zukа:
The whole reason I bought into WP7 was because MS said they'd be handling regular, incremental updates. It looks like NoDo will take seven months to reach end users (assuming it doesn't brick your phone, Samsung users) and adds functionality that was expected in early january.

And apparently the Mango update won't be ready this year.

I remember counselling patience to users about four months ago who were mad there wasn't an update already available, telling them to give it time. I think it's fair to say we've given it time. Maybe WP7 in a year or so, after Mango, but at the moment it's just moving too slowly.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
If MS can rearrange its WP7 business model to focus on just one supreme quality handset, and keep complete control over every aspect of it from design and functionality to updates, I could see WP7 having a chance. With Nokia on board, MS has access to quality hardware. MS has it's "Foxconn" in Nokia that would allow it to have the supreme quality. If they will just do it...
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
It'd be nice if there was a selection but all from one OEM. For example, Nokia, just get them to make 2-3 WP7 handsets yearly. One with a keyboard, one with a huge screen, and one with some kind of cool gimmick. Make them essentially identical hardware-wise. Then from there, well, profit.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sure haven't:
You're not understanding.

No one really cares about copy and paste. What we care about is Microsoft's dedication to the platform and their performance of taking care of wp7 users.

The fact that this "January 2011" update has now been pushed back to the "second half" of March, is testament to them bailing on everyone who got one, and the fact that wp7 is now pretty much officially unsupported.

Still a great phone, but it won't be getting any better.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sure haven't:
Who knows, maybe you're right. All I know is after my Omnia 2 fiasco, you couldn't pay me enough to get another phone made by Samsung.

Internal memory disappearing, dust collecting under the screen, tech support that doesn't know -anything-, etc. And now the wp7 update problem.

I've also heard the SAMOLED screen washes out or dies early or something, but that's beside the point.
[Windows Phone 7 General] wp7dev007:
Check all OFFICIAL Microsoft feeds

If you do, you'll find Microsoft NEVER said January.

Microsoft said Q1.

You guys are like kids. Microsoft tells you Q1, and "fill in blank here with no-nothing websites just trying to get hits" tells you January, then February, then March, then March 7, then 15th, and you believe them instead.

If you guys are that naive, you should also know that the 20 year old virgin who wants to date you is instead a 62 year old man.

Enjoy Windows Phone 7, and don't believe anything you read on the internet.

-e
[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
Microsoft marketing

I'm suspecting that whether Microsoft has implement a bad or wrong marketing strategy. They spend millions of dollars on advertisement, however they prefer a slower update progress. Furthermore, the WP7 growing rate is dropping. My honest experience, I never see a WP7 device in my area before. and etc...
[Windows Phone 7 General] wp7dev007:
Website URL

Seriously, MS with a site called windowsphone.frogz.fr?

I'm not that familiar with the international web, but is that "really" an "offical" Microsoft blog?

Can anybody explain why it isn't windowsphone.microsoft.fr?

Enjoy Windows Phone 7!

-e
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
I'd really like to know what all the fuss is about. WP7 is a great OS, even with it's glitches and missing features. It's still pretty new. I rather wait a little longer and recieve a bugfree and good update than being impatient and get an update that changes little and might not work well on all devices.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Updates...aggressive and plentiful updates by MS rather than the carriers...are a feature of WP7. At least that is how it was advertised...by MS. As we all know, WP7 has few, if any, real features. The main selling point for some ppl, including myself, was the advertised update schedule and method.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
nodo is now no show or no go...LOL...when they trying attract android users, they use no-donut.while android already updated to gingerbread,honeycomb,rumoured mango.and apple has released the OS 4.3 today.ios 5 is following,we are still waiting nodo and mango.I think when mango is releases, mango has became rotten. M$ WP7 engineer please work as a team with the marketing team.Apple's steve's Halo effect will give you a no-go.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
When android releases an update they dont release it device specific. This is why there will never be a well implemented hardware accelerated UI on android because there is so much different hardware to take into consideration. As for apple they only have to worry about updating 2 devices really and the OS as a whole hasn't had any just amazing updates since it's birth that they didn't steal from android and improve upon.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Keefo:
Still waiting on Pro-nodo.... ARGH!
[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
Basically,I'm feeling pity that we're still waiting the update with some basic and necessary functions,it's quite annoying sometimes.Android is started to gain the market share and they have solve the problem of fragmentation indirectly-although there is no fixed hardware requirements for android OS,however, manufacturer and google work great in this case.For example, at least 2or3 new android devices will be released every month,therefore, those devices with low spec will be outdated more quick.the cycle also becoming shorter.

At this moment,I don't see any strategy plan by M$.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
I see what microsoft is trying to do but they rushed in too quickly thinking that people would wait around for a complete OS. In my opinion WP7 shouldnt have been released til the end of this year but in that case they would not have gotten the nokia deal. They're just trying to get in a game that as of now they know little about.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
True,agree...They are kind of lost now.They just rush into this game...hope it'll be a good show for M$
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
That's all good and fine, there's just one problem with that - which is that the No[Can]Do update has been sitting quietly at the Microsoft campus since January waiting for deployment. They are not ironing out bugs in the actual update nor are they adding features to it.

They may be sorting out the update process, but so far as I can tell this was never broken in the first place - all devices, other than a few Samsungs, which received the pre-No[Can]Do update installed it just fine. The reason certain Samsung devices failed was likely due to a botched bootloader from Samsung as I had one that failed time and time again until I manually flashed it with a later BL. Of course, it's nice of Microsoft to try and work around this issue for Samsung, but in reality it's not their problem. Let Samsung recall all their handsets and have them updated for free or provide all the tools and firmware on their support website to let the customer try it themselves.

That pretty much only leaves a few options.

* Either the carriers are complaining about the update - this is unlikely as they have no financial gain by doing so and there are no new network breaking features included in the update.

* The OEMs are holding it back - this is more likely as the OEMs have nothing to gain by releasing OS updates. You don't pay them for the update so they are basically doing any testing and development for "free". This is why the Android platform is so fragmented in terms of OS versioning.

* Microsoft is holding it back - again this is more likely than the carrier suggestion. I've seen MSFT do this for other platforms time and time again due to bad project planning and/or idiotic decisions made at an executive level with little to no real knowledge of the project at hand.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Zedox:
I swear, you guys care about WP7 more than MS themselves. I love my WP7 but I think it's fine as is, even without No-Do. Yea, do I wish there was more...of course, everyone wants more, but for me, it's just fine, doing what a phone should be doing...letting me communicate with other people in various ways.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JamesAllen:
Miss the Point

I agree and that's where most people in this thread miss the point. There are bugs in WP7 that need to be fixed. I also bought into the lie that MS was committed to fixing issues and would release regular updates to fix bugs. Regular? Hardly!!!!!! Then they sign an agreement with the carriers allowing them to hold an update that may contain bug fixes. Just, plain stupid!!!!! We want the same type of support our PC's receive. Automatic updates without approval of the PC vendor. From MS to the user's phone. The heck with the carriers and force the OEMs to test within a strict timeframe if you have to.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dexta211:
For those with a Eu HTC 7 Trophy that can't wait for the update, there is a RUU in the Trophy section which has the NoDo update built in. Just installed it and its working perfectly.
[Windows Phone 7 General] markd66:
Updated my Trophy with this RUU last night, no problems at all. Still no UK keyboard though, no idea why :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] sure haven't:
(Needed to be said twice)
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Pre-NoDo is nothing. Absolutely nothing for your usage so don't worry.

All the bugs are still there.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dexta211:
I wondered about that too, but haven't encountered any problems yet. We'll see what happens with auto-correct when i try to write such words as "colour" or "Specialised" lol ;)
[HTC Inspire 4G] SNadler:
I was trying to save battery and accidentally froze HTC Sence Desktop

Anyone have any Ideas how to get to home sceen now so I can access TB and unfreeze or is there a command within ADB that will unfreeze it?:mad:
[HTC Inspire 4G] id10terrordfw:
You can adb push another launcher to \data\app and pull the battery. I'm sure if you search the forum (or google) you can find one.
[HTC Inspire 4G] SNadler:
Can you walk me through the adb commands? I am still trying to laen it. what if I go to bootloader and do a factory reset? I am rooted with a new rom...
[HTC Inspire 4G] SNadler:
The only way I have installed apps is with astro or dropbox before but of course cant get to either now!
[HTC Inspire 4G] SNadler:
Thanks, Nandroid Backup to the rescue!

Lesson learned! Do not freeze your launcer!
[Windows Phone 7 General] noodles222:
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011/03/09/official-nodo-coming-out-in-the-second-half-of-march/
[Windows Phone 7 General] thesecondsfade:
Yeah dude... it's so easy to find post 118 of that thread. The OP was right in posting this as it's own thread.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
I've bookmarked that link for those who, in a months time, insist on claiming there was never any set time frame. I should have done this with all of the other claims.

And if the page is somehow removed, I've copied it to paint.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Eh, there never was an official announcement that showed anything before March but at this point I'm not defending Microsoft til they give reason. It's an amazing OS but if they're just going to string people along then it's definitely losing ground in my book.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
That's how I feel. But rationally thinking, why would a company handle business this way? It makes me think they are trying to iron out something completely unexpected; trying to capitalize on a sudden resource. I think once they finally do get past the first big update, things will go smoother and faster from then on. There's no rationality to a consumer oriented company (a company making efforts to be consumer oriented) putting off its customer base. There has to be a good reason for how things are going.

Maybe MS has its hands full of the carriers. Maybe the carriers are so badly locking down MS that they can't organize well enough. Too bad MS doesn't go with a single hardware market system and run with that. They would have complete control over the whole system, much like Apple does with the iPhone. Not saying it will happen, but speculatively speaking, MS just might be headed in that direction. If the carriers are, in fact, causing all the problems, MS might just get to a point where they will have had enough and discontinue multiple hardware support and focus on one specific handset...of their choosing. Then the carriers will get taught a valuable lesson.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
90 days after CES, the date is right on time.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rajivshahi:
Windows Phone 7 is good OS but it is loosing grip because of the slow update... Same happened with Windows Mobile... Seems like M$ didn't learn from it... Well let's See how well M$ can keep up with the Android and IOS....:o:o The Update that was supposed to released in Jan is Coming is End of March.... Such an Embarrassment......
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
for the hundredth time no one at Microsoft said anything about January.
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
For the 100th time; Yes they did.
[Windows Phone 7 General] EDDS:
Yeah they actually did, they orginally said Jan/Feb.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
No, they didn't. The assumption was made because there was a webpage hosted that had "january_update" in the URL. Assumptions were then made.
[Windows Phone 7 General] EDDS:
They honestly did, I remember seing it directly from a microsoft employee, not some crappy little website.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Yeah, please do show some proof because I'm quite certain if that was the case it would've come up on some tech blog. All of which ive been following daily since months before the initial release of WP7. Microsoft made no official announcement aside from "Early 2011." From there they went on to say "The first 2 weeks of March." Finally we come to where we're at today.
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
It was supposed to have been released on the 7th, but was pulled - yet again. The latest date I have is the 22nd.

What irks me is that this update is still the same old build that's been ready for deployment since January.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tiny17:
Where are you getting this information?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Wyn6:
z33 is correct. Microsoft's only official announcment about the first update was Q1 2011. Which doesn't end until March 31st.

There were several rumors from various tech blogs about January and then February but nowhere has an official MS announcement been made on an exact day and/or time.

I've also been following about 10 or so tech blogs since about December.
[Windows Phone 7 General] truffle1234:
it was always Q1 for the nodo and Q3 for the mango.... MS never give out dates... no one will give out dates for the updates come on...
[Windows Phone 7 General] failtorespond:
And then when it comes out and has problems everyone will be crying about why they didn't beta test it more. Just relax people I want the update too but not enough to whine about it on the net. Just sayin'..
[Windows Phone 7 General] wp7dev007:
I could have sworn I heard Steve B say January, but I guess not

I guess it doesn't matter.

The problem is that the web sucks. The Web is full of a lot of crap, non-intelligent information that is worded as fact, gueses, and plain old lies. Not exactly the "Information Superhighway", eh? More like the Mis-information superhighway, and more annoying that helpful.

Microsoft is trying to make good on their word of Q1, and the dumb, incessant, no-better-than-a-guess rumors keep coming.

I should know enough not to pay any attention. These are people just out to try to get their ad revenues up.

Anyone citing "sources close to Microsoft" can now take a flying leap. Send me a link to a Microsoft website, and I'll pay attention. Otherwise, go away.

Enjoy Windows Phone 7!

-e
[Windows Phone 7 General] sure haven't:
It doesn't matter if they said it or not. The rumor mill piled it on that it was March 8th, etc. If Microsoft was a smart company that really wanted to show they're in this game to win, they would have addressed the release date and kept the lines of communication open.

F*cking Charlie Sheen communicates better, and caters to fans better than Microsoft.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Here is what looks like official word from MS about a real date for the pre-update and it's postponement.

http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/pre-nodo-wp7-update-should-have-hit-att-on-march-7
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bleak Morn:
Well, it seems some people may be getting NoDo on the 17th, others (like yours truly) will be getting it on the 20th.

wpcentral.com/htc-arrive-available-march-17th-seattle-area

Checking on the rumor myself at the moment...
[Windows Phone 7 General] iwantnokia:
I prety sure new post will be created

"update will delay till early April"
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
I could, but I did pinpoint the exact date some 12 days before rollout :p
[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
Yea,Microsoft said is Q1 2011 and they never say update for all device will be available in Q1...if your device still has not get update for you, the multi-billion dollar company won't feel sorry to you. They just want to earn your money anyway.They can give you any reason,any unreasonable reason or apologise.However, your money already in their pocket now.this is what I have learned,when i bought HTC HD2 for just 6 months,then they stop updating WM...and 3months ago, I bought HTC mozart.They keep postpone the update....hope,it'll be getting better.However,now I have a bad feeling.

When the first nokia wp7 releases,the first batch of WP7 device will be outdated or like Iphone 3G which don't get the latest feature of the updates.once again,not everyone has the money to invest on new devices every season or year.

what I hate is that they said,updates will be delivered directly from us to your device....however,when the update need to be postponed they point their finger to the carriers.

Hey...M$,please remember what you said,we are consumer,we don't care about who makes the updates delayed.Once you said that the updates will straight from you to our device,then we will deal with you...why put the fire onto carriers?????
[Touch HD General] Bastijntje:
I Know there are more threads with a broken power button but nobody has given an answer to the problem. I have a HTC Touch HD. The power button (on the top left) won't work. Usually , when you press the power button, you can feel it click, and the screen turns on and off. But now, the button just goes down when i press it, and you dont feel it "clicking". So now I can't turn it on.

Does anyone know how I can get it on or fix it?

Thanks...

Update: ive opened my mobile, so now can i see whats beneath the power button. I don't have a clue what mechanism it should have (how the click works)... How it normally looks.. any suggestions?
[Captivate General] Ryplok:
I have been running into an odd issue with the Galaxy S Captivate and the Tab. I work with unlocked units (Captivate: using the code stored in the units / Galaxy Tab: using the Rotohammer method). Suddenly, the unit may start showing the SIM Network Unlock Pin request for no reason. No update, nothing...

I found a similar thread on this but there ppl were talking about defective units. This doesnt seem to be the case here as it affects different models. Could it be an Eclair issue with the Galaxy hardware?

Here is a link to the older thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=714811&page=4

:eek:
[Epic 4G General] tcrimsonk:
hmm
[Epic 4G General] edonnelly:
I haven't been able to get barnacle to work, but wifi tether works fine if I use one of the latest versions (not the version on the market):

http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list

I tried the one that is "pre10," but that's only because "pre11" wasn't there a week or so ago.

That's what has always happened to me with barnacle. I never tried too hard to get it to work, though, since wifi tether worked fine.
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
Pre11 doesn't work for me. I have the same problem where my laptop finds the network, connects, but does not access the internet. Replaced it with pre10 however and it works just fine. Did this both on stock EB13 and the ACS ROM. I'd say don't bother with the pre11 version if 10 works for you.
[Desire HD General] snowwhite007:
Lol my brother flashed clockwrk before s-off and ENG-off obviously id doesnt wrk but if he does wat he should have then reflashes shood he be cool
[Desire HD General] Andy:
Without S-OFF then the changes he makes will not be permanent. They will simply be undone when the device boots next.
[Desire HD General] snowwhite007:
Cool i just s-off and eng for him and reinstalled all good thanks
[Droid Incredible General] donnyp1:
I saw in the myt4g forums that gingersense roms are rolling out. What are the chances of a port for ghe incredible anytime soon. I know we have the best dev community so is it possible? Thanks in advance for any comments.
[Droid Incredible General] KrisPeezy:
i'm sure we'll see something soon, the devs in this forum are awesome
[Droid Incredible General] donnyp1:
I really hope so. Ive been reading the other forum cuz my son has that phone an im gettin jealous, there gettin some good stuff over there

yes, i am one who likes to flash then flush
[Droid Incredible General] incubus26jc:
been working on it for several days. Its a *****. Hopefully will get it functional soon
[Droid Incredible General] Ianxcom:
Yes! Thank you so much for working on this incubus.
[Droid Incredible General] Coderedpl:
Meaning Gingerbread + Sense?
[Droid Incredible General] donnyp1:
Dooood, u r da man. If u needa tester, im all in! Ill even do a full wipe an donate my TIGER BLOOD!

Flash n flush gives new meaning to wipe everything!
[Droid Incredible General] Keyboards:
Yep. Good luck incubus. I will also be a tester if you need one.
[Droid Incredible General] Smokeey:
I love you. Link to the MT4G thread please :)
[Droid Incredible General] bashir1102:
cant wait !
[Droid Incredible General] Jes7er:
Let me know if you need a beta tester!
[Droid Incredible General] donnyp1:
Search for htc glacier

Flash n flush gives new meaning to wipe everything!