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[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
Both Microsoft and Nokia have gone on record to say that Nokia will be able to offer cheaper handsets due to two specific reasons. One, the sheer volume of components Nokia will purchase and Two, prices on the required components will have fallen in general by the time they bring product to market.

I believe they even categorically denied using a lower-class chassi spec to achieve a lower price-point.

Personally, I don't think prices are too bad currently. The LG Optimus 7 can be had, off-contract, for roughly $300 in some European countries at the moment.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nidave:
I skipped off a lot of this thread as I got bored with the fighting, apologies if this has been covered.

The fact that new phones are shipping with the RTM build of NoDo not make you think there is some other factor (read: the carriers) causing the delay?

I would take a guess that MS are going to look at the whole update process as the amount of noise generated by the lack of updates / communication is counter productive and will put people off.

I understand peoples frustration at not getting the update- any person who is into gadgets or technology is impatient when it comes to new features or updates.

I know people hate the fact that carriers are given control over some of the update process but we don't know how hard MS has to fight to get the platform approved for each carrier, some of the bigger ones have a lout of clout!
[Windows Phone 7 General] steve10:
This is basically what I said in a prior post, about 1-2 pages ago. While I'd love to have NoDo already, I can deal with not having the update yet. My phone works, it does most of the things I need it to do already. Not having copy/paste isn't a deal-breaker (though the app performance improvements would be nice).

What irritates me is that Microsoft has strung people along with their employees subtly mentioning little indeterminate phrases about updates, such as "coming soon" and "in the next few months." But even as close as we are rumored to be, Microsoft has sat in near-complete silence almost the entire time. They didn't even officially announce the pre-NoDo update until the day of deployment. If this was an enterprise product, that would never happen. But ultimately, consumer or business, it doesn't matter. People who spent money and took a chance on a brand new platform should at least have an idea from an official channel what is going on. It's that fact that is truly disheartening to me; and frankly, a bit worrisome at this point. We've heard rumors of January (primarily corroborated by a URL posted on the Microsoft website), February, and March. Almost every time the rumor came from a traditionally reliable source, but obviously all these rumors turned out to be false.

As I said before, I understand delays happen and I'm not complaining that this is the case. It may be an issue that is better off resolved before the update goes out, rather than risk bricking phones again or what ever else this hypothetical issue with the update might be causing. But if Microsoft is confident it will be out later this week, we shouldn't have to hear it from another rumor source. There should be a blog post on the Windows Phone Blog stating that "the first Windows Phone update will be made available on March 11th (or even 12th)." If Microsoft is not sure, they should be telling us something like "don't get your hopes up, it may be April." I should not have to wake up every morning and go throughout the day wondering and guessing if today will be the day that I get the notification. It just isn't right to keep stringing people along that way after 5 months on the market with no significant updates; and for many, no updates at all.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
I think we are all having a civilized discussion now :)

N8ter,

What I am trying to suggest is that because of how Android ecosystem is, manufacturers find themselves pushing out phones with the latest and greatest hardware. One trend you are starting to see with Intel and AMD in the PC market is CPUs with better integrated GPUs and in AMD's case a better way to integrate the GPU. This would be a nice trend to see in the mobile phone world since I think more people would love to play nicer games on their phones and opposed to having the unused raw power of a dual core cpu.

I am wondering if chasing technology is necessary in the Android world because it is difficult for a handset to stand out among the masses and to improve user experience.

I bet Apple with the iPhone 5 does not case Android down the Dual Core rabbit hole. If they do then maybe it is for uniformity since the iPad2 has one.

I don't know. I may be wrong. But I think an Omnia 7 will not get lost as having very old technology in 2012 in the Windows 7 ecosystem.
[Windows Phone 7 General] domineus:
NoDo was made to OEMs in December. That's a fact - OEMs get it first. JB may have been referring to OEMs having nodo by january, which goes back into the whole NoDo supports next gen qualcomm processors.

The january references are just that references to OEMs, I'm not sure they were meant to be matriculated to end user - and if they were, we wouldn't have been told frequently Q1.

The only thing that BW said definitively was dev tools release and he was correct about that but his hands were tied about phone updates. Always were tied...save from blog writers who took one line and ran several stories about it
[Windows Phone 7 General] buffalosolja42:
I am patiently waiting

But for all those who are angry and such for the update or wanting it soon, just make a facebook page about where is my upgrade, Big Companies don't like bad PR, and if the majority of the world doesn't come to XDA like 1/3 of the worlds population is on FB. "Where is my update" and just like the PR will raise some flags and then it will more than likely get pushed. Just my 2
[Windows Phone 7 General] bome76:
People are talking about copy/paste as if it is the main and the biggest disadvantage of the wp7 phones. I don't much care about it, but what I really care is bugs fixing, caller ID mapping at the first place. I know that you may said that I could do that by myself, but I don't want to unlock my phone, to loose warranty and to do things that MS or HTC should have done long time ago. Caller ID mapping is the problem that I didn't have on any phone I had, starting with Nokia 5110. It's really frustrating bug
[Windows Phone 7 General] domineus:
for dell devices major bugs

are not fixed. No shock, its DELL
[Windows Phone 7 General] jason.hamilton:
Wpcentral is reporting that phones w/ nodo didn't receive much besides copy and paste and a performance increase. Kind of a let down. WP7 is still lacking some very basic tools. Im having to switch back to my blackberry til wp7 brings some actual usability to the OS.

http://www.wpcentral.com/no-surprises-nodo-trophy-update
[Windows Phone 7 General] FishFaceMcGee:
Given that's exactly what MS said was coming, what's the surprise/problem? What "very basic tools" do you desperately need? Just curious.
[Windows Phone 7 General] microhaxo:
I have the nodo update and i couldn't be happier. The performance increase is very noticeable throughout the os. The market has had a nice bug fix overhaul and now we can search for just apps and games. Also i've noticed they changed the settings around a bit. Now we have more control over some notification sounds. Overall i really am happy with this update. The phone was already fast but now it feels so much more polished and fast.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mo3ulla:
guys you are all like big kids ..

update drama will be ended in pretty old way ..

hardspl-> custom rom ..

just forget about updates ..

also think a moment .. IF in new update Homebrew will be POWNED .. will you update ?

ps- sidenote .. ALL SECURITY IN WP7 could be turned off by changing 1!!!!!! byte !!!!!!! in KERNEL HEX ...
[Windows Phone 7 General] FishFaceMcGee:
Does the Marketplace seem more stable? My biggest issue with Marketplace was that if you swiped through the panorama while it was loading content, there was a high chance the app would crash, which would also crash the Zune (Music+Video) app.
[Windows Phone 7 General] domineus:
that's not quite true

as has been stated ad nauseum, the user only notices faster program loading, copy and paste AND marketplace refined searching. But the update brings support to cdma and next gen qualcomm processors - the big take away message.

But again microsoft has reiterated this ad nauseum
[Windows Phone 7 General] FishFaceMcGee:
To be fair, why should any existing user care about features that the update brings that doesn't currently affect them? I mean, I'm on a 2-year contract with AT&T for my Focus, so by the time I see any benefit from those features, I will have already (hopefully) seen the benefits from Mango and other updates. Why should I care about Verizon/Sprint support and new CPU support? It's not like my phone is in desperate need of more speed.

Those features are important for people who aren't customers and for Microsoft. That's it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
What's happening in the PC market is exactly what's happening in the mobile market. Not just Android but the entire smartphone market. The dual cores are actually used in Android, and they make a huge difference. Not to mention the better battery life.

As I have stated a million times, games and media are the driving force for multi cores.

I'm certain the iPhone 5 will have dual or even quad cores. Tegra 3 is due out in August.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sensboston:
Could u prove? ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] mo3ulla:
if turn on captain oblivious ..

1. you will not be able flash custom rom ... for now . since you need acces to kernel partition

2. guess how HD2 permanently unlocked without CHEVRON ? ;)

i could provide offset for coredll.dll ... but idea not mine courtesy and it will not help .. at all.. since no hspl for native wp7 devices
[Windows Phone 7 General] domineus:
because while YOU may have devices being on GSM, there are a plethora of users that do not have that. At all. Windows is opening up that pool for all users to help permeate the platform in different countries to create competition and user options for people that are still die hard windows mobile users.

So yeah, for you it does nothing, but for the "best" band - being CDMA, it means a lot
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
I really don't see how anybody could state that CDMA is the best band... I consider it far worse than GSM, but thats my take... But I do agree that CDMA support is huge for us, simply because it gives Microsoft more marketshare, more revenue, and more initiative to expand features...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Michael-Dallas:
N900 runs Maemo5. It was a failure because of poor marketing.

The N9, the MeeGo phone, has a capacitive display and 800x480 or qHD (I forget) resolution. It's a shame it's been scrapped.

The CPU, CPU speed, and RAM are close to the Moto Droid and was pretty industry standard at that time. Shockingly enough, I find the Mozilla-compliant MicroB browser is actually faster than IE mobile and my WP7 has 400 more clock cycles over the N900.

And that is your opinion and conjecture. I'll find out for sure next month what the first Nokia WP7 will possibly have.

Michael.
[Windows Phone 7 General] markd66:
There's now a blog post on a French site that says that Nodo will be released in the second half of March....

http://windowsphone.frogz.fr/post/2...r-NoDo-en-video-et-date-de-disponibilite.aspx

Hmmmmm
[Windows Phone 7 General] tfouto:
21 March...

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft...do-to-arrive-in-the-second-half-of-march/8888
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
I regret buying this phone. Earlier adopters = screwed adopters.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jmerrey:
forum meltdown in 3...2...1...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Michael-Dallas:
Those cheap phones are meant for... wait for it... developing countries. Regardless, it's still to early to say if they'll change the minimum requirements for WP7.

Nokia had a few MeeGo phones on their roadmap, some are already in prototype form. They will re-use the existing hardware from that for some WP7 phones they have coming.

Their first WP7 phone will hopefully be around sometime next February and it should have LTE support. What this means is that Mango better be complete very soon as they will have to update Mango for LTE support if Nokia wants meet next February for an AT&T-branded WP7 phone.

Michael.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Fixed that for you ;).
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
Anyone with a near mint condition Omnia 7, Mozart, or Trophy that is fed up with WP7 and does not want the phone anymore I will buy. Seriously. Which is rather generous since the value of an unwanted item should be $0 right? Just send me a PM.

I thought in the mobile phone world gaming is determined mostly by the gpu. I understand in the Qualcomm chips it is SoC but would I see a difference in gaming on a phone that is 800MHz + Adreno 205 vs 1GHz + Adreno 205?
[Windows Phone 7 General] markd66:
Of course there may be a specific reason to delay Nodo in France. Or not. Just worth bearing in mind that there is no corroboration from other MS sources. Yet. ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] sensboston:
BTW, it doesn't means: "ALL SECURITY IN WP7 could be turned off by changing 1!!!!!! byte !!!!!!! in KERNEL HEX ..." ;)

"All security" it's a lot of stuff; u can't simple "turn it off" by changing one byte. I don't have HD2 with WP7 firmware to test; however can you deploy & install applications with WMAppPRHeader.xml on your "securityless" HD2? :rolleyes:
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tom Servo:
All existing devices that have been manufactured recently do seem to come with NoDo. Devices that have been sent back for repair come with NoDo. Where's the ****ing problem?
[Windows Phone 7 General] thesecondsfade:
Really? Copy and Paste is that important to you? The fundamentals of the OS are not changing, even with the Mango update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] fb401:
I think deep down, we were all expecting something of this nature. I certainly was.
[Windows Phone 7 General] steve10:
Seems to me the updater is broken and the update to fix the updater probably doesn't work right since the updater is broken. Not really trying to be funny here, I know everybody has made jokes about "the update for the update," but in all seriousness I've suspected for a few weeks now that if they needed to update the phone to "prepare" for NoDo, there was no way a direct comprehensive update straight to NoDo was going to work.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tom Servo:
With WinCE 7 having gone gold recently, it wouldn't be unexpected to get the core OS upgraded with Mango. Especially since version 7 is needed for dual core SoCs.
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
I for one couldn't give a **** about copy'n'paste at this point. Sure, it'd be nice to have, especially when I transfer my UPS tracking ID's from email to the actual tracking app, but shiet, I can live with using a pen and paper a little longer.

What I do care about is ****ing bug fixes though. It's been five months and not a single hotfix has been released. Looking at the No[Can]Do update it doesn't even include bugfixes for all of the, by now, well known bugs because the update has been finished for months already. Apparently we are looking at a post-No[Can]Do update to fix certain marketplace bugs (not updating trial apps for instance). Geez.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JamesAllen:
Agreed

Yoy stated my feelings exactly. I don't give a crap about what's in the updates, so long as they are frequent and responsive to bugs and issues. So far, and yes I am an MS fan, the frequency stinks big time.
[Windows Phone 7 General] otech:
There are many bug fixes in nodo, they just haven't published them in a list like they should.

I haven't had any OS issues since using nodo, apart from some Mozart specific issues that didn't get fixed to do with sound.
[Windows Phone 7 General] santacruzdz:
The Update is coming second hal of March (OFFICIAL)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFl7LVVjPxU&feature=player_embedded
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
I know there are, the be or not be of bugfixes in a certain update wasn't what I was getting at. Rather I was pointing out that most users, no, most consumers are not looking forward to C&P - they want already existing functionality to work properly (or, according to a non-scientific, localized survey - the ability to personalize their ringtones/notification sounds). I.e. without having to jank the battery out of their phone or hard reset the device so often.

The fact that this No[Can]Do update includes C&P is great, but there is no reason why we should have to wait five months for a single bugfix to be released. The update as such has been finished since January, if it was held back due to additional features then split it up and release hotfixes for all the bugfixes contained in said update.

My point is simply while additional functionality is always nice (like you're getting something for free) it's bugfixes people want.

Ya, 22nd I've been told - which is interesting as MJF has been told the 21st. This lines up nicely with international timezones etc - perhaps someone at MS has realized there is a world outside PST time (which would definitely be a first)?
[Windows Phone 7 General] otech:
Agreed.

And they aren't even telling us what they've fixed, what they're fixing, or even known issues.

It's ridiculous.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DavidinCT:
I'd bet 99% that it works fine on a new phone with out any user config or apps.

The problem happens on the upgrade path (like the last update) and I'd bet that is the issue, one or 2 devices are having issues.

Everyone's config is different, this is the problem I'd bet.
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
You have a good point, although as locked down as the OS is I cannot see what, if anything, the average consumer (i.e. someone who hasn't jailbreaked and faffed with registry/settings) can change that would break the update.

I still maintain that the upgrade process is fine - it works for everyone but some Samsung devices with certain bootloaders. While the pre-update didn't add functionality it worked the same way No[Can]Do does - in that it patched up the system.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Trogvars:
Flashed NoDO ROM found in the net.

Got version 7.0.7389.0 Now.

- Copy & Paste enabled

- Got MAC and SIM ID in About

Other things seems to be the same.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bleak Morn:
Since I route all of my mail through Hotmail, the tracking numbers trigger in-email package tracking. Stopped using sites like www.UseTrackthis.com and the shippers once that was launched a few months ago.

As for copy and paste - it's such a pain on my HTC Touch Pro2 I never use the feature anyway. It's going to take a while to get back in the habit.
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
Didn't know it did that. But I receive a lot of packages so find it easier (or rather, more convenient) to use a dedicated tracking app. Usually I transfer the consignment numbers using the desktop, but if I'm on the go...

Will have to check the hotmail integration though.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bleak Morn:
I like UseTrackthis because it SMS's me when there are status updates. Worked pretty well but sign-in with a Passport was wierd sometimes.

As for Hotmail, they added a bunch of new features a while back. The most useful/overlooked features are cloud related.

For example, I had a photo shoot and the photog had massive files. He was having trouble sending them via email, and even FTP due to server space limitations. I saw that he had Hotmail and suggested he use an online album to send them.

As long as each file is smaller than 25 MB it works fine. I forget how many GB is the max for the email, but I'm not going to bump into it anytime soon. Best of all when I recieved the email it was in a nice "slideshow" format, and automatically offered the ability to download all of them at once via a single ZIP file.

Essentially MS looked at stuff that people tend to do a lot with email, then automated those tasks *just in case* the user might find them handy.

Now I just wish it'd recognize when my Dad sends me one photo per email from his HTC Evo 4G and put them all together into one slideshow with the single downloadable zip.

Also handy with Hotmail is Office integration, so if someone sends you an Office doc type you can view and edit it online even if you don't have Office.

The "Sweep" functionality is also a huge timesaver, but I managed to get to the maximum number of rules. :(
[Droid 2 General] mad96:
I'm runnning fission overclocked at 1200 and its running fast as hell, but when I flash any other rom with cache and data wipe the screen will freeze and a battery pull is required. I've done a full sbf and still a no go, but after I restore my backup I made w fission its running like a top again, is there something else I can do to fix this
[Droid 2 General] problematic:
What ROM are you flashing? I had this problem when I tried Liberty, both versions. That's why I just went back to fission. I like some of the other features liberty has, but if there are stability issues that's a deal breaker for me. For example, my phone would reboot while on phone calls sometimes.

If for some reason you were suspecting the overclock, I had these issues stock.
[Droid 2 General] orkillakilla:
I'm running liberty 1.5 and it is the most stable rom i've ever used, so I would count unstability out. Have you tried redownloading the ROM? Perhaps something happened to it during download.
[Droid 2 General] JeezyMT3G:
Happened to me but when I tried to flash Fission .....went back to Liberty
[Droid 2 General] mad96:
Yes it was liberty, I found once I formatted the sd card and reflashed all problems solved, thanks for the response guys.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zolaisugly:
Hi, really sorry if posted before please dont flame shout or anything else.

i have managed to root my x10i.

my phone has the following details

uk on 3

firmware 2.1 update1

baseband 2.1.54

kernel version 2.6.29

build number 2.1.a.0.435

what i want to know is what should i do now???? i would like to install a new rom.

which one do i choose.... there are many threads with links here, there, and everywhere and i am finding it confusing, i am new to this and would appreciate any help and advice that you could part to a willing and eager x10i user.

i would prefer to use/have a fully working rom inc camera and video playback.

i understand this will limit my options,

i dont mind using a stripped down stock rom.

thanks in advance for any help
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oxyprime:
It is possible for you to get 2.2, but dont know which version is the best, thinking rdannar or what he's called. it doesn't have a functioning cam, but you can get that from apps.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andddy:
mmmh the camera works in most of the roms but the quality really isnt great. there is a 2.1custom stripped down se rom which im using and that is full functional and much faster than the standard se. just go through the 1st to pages on the android development and take your pick, they all list whats working and whats not.the 2.1 roms will mostly be fully functional
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pinginn:
i got my x10a last week on friday an within 12 hurs rooted 1.6 installed 2.1.a.0.435 rooted that installed Root Explorer, xRecovery,hunnycomb 2.1 rom.

used this to install new F/W

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=920746

and used this for the rom

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=949457

good luck pm me if you need an extra help but thos guides work rely well. :p
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whitezboon:
oopss..

Ignore this...........
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whitezboon:
:DI suggest u use one of these roms... its a 2. 1 custom rom.. but its way much better than the SE stock rom...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=941745

erickwill's rom

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=949457

goeasy's rom

Enjoy!!