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[Captivate General] ekerbuddyeker:
Well, after 3 weeks of trying the Inspire and Atrix, at the end of the day I am back on the Captivate! I think the AT&T store are sick of me becuase I got the Inspire then returned it for the Atrix, then returned the Atrix for the Inspire. Why? Sound quality, video quality, size, screen quality, buttons and ease of use.

So thats my 2c.

It is interesting to see how many people also own, or have all, all three devices.

Note that my Captivate has a custom ROM.
[Captivate General] ryude:
Lol, As much as people diss the captivate it's hard to find another android phone that can match it.
[Captivate General] jcabibi:
+1

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[Captivate General] mechanical tool:
Do all your reason apply to both the Atrix and the Inspire?
[Captivate General] ryude:
I returned the Inspire because of all of those reasons, but the Atrix had even more problems than that.
[Captivate General] onesikpuppy:
I had the atrix...it may be better on paper but I'll stick with the captivate
[Captivate General] Krad:
You guys are all smoking bad crack. The captivate blows. Down with samsung
[Captivate General] d3v14n7:
I got my Atrix, and no way am I going back to my Captivate full time... I'll miss the Captivate's screen, but in the end, the Atrix is a superior phone. Just waiting for my unlock code now so I can actually use it on my carrier, but damn, its insanely fast! Still keeping my Captivate for backup purposes and to satisfy my flashing addiction.

One thing I wish manufacturers would include, dual sim slots... Then I wouldn't need 2 separate phones, one for home and one for work... Seems simple enough and wouldn't be very costly to add, considering all the cheap Chinese knockoff phones come with dual and even triple (dual GSM and a single CDMA) sim slots which all work simultaneously.

Other than that and the inferior screen compared to the Captivate, it's pretty hard to complain about the Atrix, I hope the devs get around the bootloader or Motorola finally caves in and decides to let us unlock it if we chose to (like the Xoom), but I won't complain if it doesn't happen... I can get rid of the stock launcher easily and replace it with Launcher Pro Plus, Zeam or ADW, which is really my only complaint about Blur. I'm happy it doesn't include Gingerbread yet, as it's still quite buggy and really doesn't offer much over Froyo anyways... Besides, that leaves at least 1 update that will arrive soonish where Motorola may throw in the bootloader unlock if people complain enough. :D... Of course I won't be holding my breath, but it would be nice.

Overall, I'm happy with my purchase, I'll put it through more rigorous testing in the coming weeks after I get my unlock code, I'm sure it'll perform just fine though.
[Captivate General] gandalf21502:
I went into the store to play with the Atrix...To be honext it is an nice speedy phone. BUT with a custom rom (paragon 6.0) I did not really notice that much speed difference. I enjoy the captivate's screen MUCH more than the Atrix. Benchmarks I have seen, in some cases the Galaxy S comes out over the Atrix. I am sure when dual core is optimized via the o/s that will change, but for now...I am sticking with the captivate. I know many are down on Samsung, but i must say a Galaxy S 2 with the tegra 2 looks very tasty to me...:D
[Captivate General] d3v14n7:
I'd be all over the Galaxy S 2 if it still had a 4" screen (and possibly a higher resolution), but the 4.3" screen is the deal breaker for me. Yes, I realize that the screen's quality is far superior to the Atrix's, but when all things are considered, the Atrix makes up for it in raw specs and awesome accessories...

The Captivate is already huge for a phone (in my opinion), I can't imagine using anything bigger than that. Thickness isn't a big concern for me (I don't see why people are so obsessed with how thin phones are, a mm or 2 really doesn't make a huge difference... But meh, to each his/her own), but the overall height and width is what really bothers me, at 125mm (~5"), it's huge compared to the Atrix's 117mm (~4.5") or even the Captivate's 121mm (~4.7")...

I'm more interested to see how well Samsung's dual core Exynos processor performs than the Tegra 2 on the Galaxy S 2, knowing how snappy the Hummingbird currently is and how long it kept the performance crown, I have no doubts that the Exynos will be able to hold its own against, and possibly even beat the Tegra 2.

And yes, I completely agree, until we see some optimizations in the OS and apps for dual core SOCs, there really won't be a huge difference between single and dual cores in terms of performance... Thankfully, Tegra 2 optimized apps and games are starting to pop up on the Market, so it's only a matter of time. Benchmarks really aren't a good way to measure performance between single and dual cores, they're not very accurate with single cores either (they vary greatly between different kernels, yet real world performance remains the same), so I take synthetic benchmark results with a grain of salt.

Either way, dual cores are still very much in their infancy, it can only get better from here, and if past phones are any indication, we're in for a hell of a year in terms of Android goodness. :D
[Captivate General] gandalf21502:
Well I have played with an Evo, 4.3 inch screen, and I can handle it pretty nicely in my hands. I can't imagine much bigger though for a phone myself.

Phones and basically netbooks now. Not quite up to the power a laptop, but soon that will change. I do like the docks for the Atrix, but do not really want to pay $500 for it. I can get a good laptop for the price now. I want portable power in a small package.

I would say that the tegra will have a slight advantage only on the fact that there will be more software optimized to run on it most likely. Nvida is a big company imop that leads the pc gpu market.

Certainly going to be a GREAT YEAR for 'smartphones'...(almost think the name needs to change soon...;)
[Captivate General] FLAC Vest:
I have the captivate and nexus one right now, had the Atrix when it came out but took it back.

now I only use the Captivare to either play games or as a backup if the Nexus 1 dies on me.
[Captivate General] mcord11758:
Played with an atrix. Couldn't find a justification to buy it. Not very impressive. Liked the inspire more, but still not enough to give up the captivate

CM7
[Captivate General] bames:
it blows so much you have to spend time in our forum instead of the streaks...oh wait there isn't much to see in the streak forum is there :p
[Captivate General] JRd1st:
No wonder there are so many "refurbs" out there...
[Captivate General] balishared:
i was going to get the Atrix because of the lapdock but i read its not very functional as for the trackpad and a bit too pricey. still happy with my cappy, good thing we have developers busy making our captivate better everyday, since at&t is too busy with the iphone
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
For the first 4 months, I hated it. For the next 2, I thought it was alright. Since then it grew on me.
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
Mikey, that was almost complimentary. You must be in a good mood for a change.:D
[Captivate General] Dani897:
there are so many of these threads and soo many people have things they like about the captivate over there other phone. i messed with the atrix and like the webtop view but wish it did more than run firefox and web apps. it would be great if the phone view could be opened in multiple windows having all the active apps open at the same time if you wish but i guess you cant get everything. also a full text editor would be cool. i know it has office apps but a more desktop worthy app would be awesome in the webtop. but hearing that the inspire and atrix have lesser call quality makes me shy away from the atrix. the call quality is one of the best things about the captivate. plus the atrix does look a bit cheap with the back cover though i am gealous of the fingerprint reader and hdmi port.

now i want to put ubuntu on my phone so i can out do the atrix in the "hey my phone is a computer" catagory. my graphics benchmarks are already better. now we just need to find someone who can write a driver to get hdmi out from the usb port... hmmm i need to get my brother to stop playing wow, quit his night job and dev for android..
[Captivate General] vaiol123:
My friend bought and HD7, and as I played with it, the same charm the captivate had when I first saw it was pretty much non-existant. The Captivate is anything but perfect, but it is also anything but terrible. Oh, and it looks really bad ass too :D
[Captivate General] ryude:
Fixed.....
[Captivate General] di11igaf:
had both as well and im back to the captivate. just wasnt impressed with either of them compared to the captivate. and ya the atrix feels quick when first using it, but when( and this is gods honest truth, i think i may even make a video) i actually compared the atrix and captivate( on MY rom/kernel cant speak for anything else) side by side, the captivate did almost everything faster. every app loaded faster, except for app to qr, which was a little faster on the atrix. all stock apps the captivate won(camera, phone, etc). browser was also faster on the captivate after a lot of testing.

ya im sure the atrix has potential to be a lot faster, but it will never see it. the bootloader will not be unlocked, and its not gonna get unlocked by moto with an update to GB. moto may optimize some things some more, but who knows how much faster it will actually get when your pretty much relying 100% on the company. imagine if we had to rely on samsung for that.
[Captivate General] ryude:
+1 million
[Captivate General] comdei:
My friend bought an atrix and He still thinks my phone is snappier :P

goooo! captivate
[Captivate General] ryude:
It's the screen itself, samsung's touch response is lightyears ahead of any other touch screen out there. As soon as you touch something, it reacts, but on the inspire it felt like I had to wait for the screen to sense my touches.
[Captivate General] di11igaf:
Ya I think that is a part of it. The samoled has an insane response time, one of if not the best in the world on mobile phones I believe.
[Captivate General] comdei:
mfw when I realize i was talking to you.

HELL YEAH WE GOT ANOTHER DEV BACK :D:D:D

are you going to make more ROMS?
[Captivate General] Krad:
Actually i had a captivate and i like to stroll over here to rip pieces from roms and check out the apps section. Samsung should be punched in the face with the galaxy s. I dont need a custom rom on my superior streak because it runs faster then the craptivate with any hacked rom... ohh and did i mention on my snapdragon processor the gps is accurate instantly up to 2 meters.... stop drinking the kool aid check elsewhere... samsung is easily the worst.... what are they going to do now that apple is dumping them as well.
[Captivate General] mcord11758:
you are special

CM7
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
If your Streak is so awesome, why do you spend so much time in this forum and not your own?:confused:
[Captivate General] comdei:
+100 tiger bloods

:D:D
[Captivate General] fractaline:
she's got some life left

so good to hear these thoughts....... i just got into android. but i was clear that i wanted a samsung simply for the samoled. the sensory/visual is worth alot.

it just feels so sexy. so glad to have you devs to show us the light.

it's the dev community that sealed the captivate deal for me.

thanks millions.
[Captivate General] bames:
Troll much?

Streak is a respectable device.

Much larger than i would want for a phone i would carry at all times. Don't think i would want much larger the 4.3" screen on cell. For others the larger the better. To each their own.

That being said....i have played with a streak and its not faster than my captivate on one of any handful of roms.

The screen while bigger sacrifices quality. The resolution is a noticeable issue (the 7" worse than the 5). It wouldn't be bad on a 3.5" screen but stretched to a 5" quality suffers and its much worse on the 7" tab. Horrendous viewing angle. Horrendous outdoor viewing. Less responsive and less vibrant (nowhere near the depth or richness in picture/color/lighting/shadow) than Samsung's super-amoled.

My GPS has really good. Just as you can find information about "lackluster" or non-working/wonky GPS on the captivate you don't have to look to hard to find similar reports from streak users as well (i want great GPS performance but lets be honest...if any of us had perfect GPS as the main focus of our android phone we would have sacrificed the screen real estate and gotten an Aria).

I am on my 2nd captivate (shutdown issues) only happened a few times but with warranty approaching wasn't taking any chances. Thought i was just lucky with the first captivate because my locktimes, strength, and accuracy were so good (granted tracking wasn't good on stock but it was very good with customs).

When i mad my exchange my biggest fear was finding out what some other captivate owners were complaining about and i would be taking a huge step backwards in with that function of my device. The GPS in the 2nd captivate is actually better in one respect. I get about the same # of sats anywhere from 8-12 with generally all locked (or all but one locked). My lock times are similar all though i am seeing faster lock times on many occasions. Generally my lock-times were 10-13 seconds which is fairly consistent with new device but on multiple tests yesterday i got 1-3 second locks.

The replacement came with JH7 and the most surprising thing was seeing something i hadn't experienced with the first cappy.....the GPS tracking actually worked and was accurate on stock (as good as it was with the customs on my last phone).

Tit for tat...feature for feature no way i would trade my captivate for a streak as my personal feeling is i would be downgrading in multiple ways. Not to mention the developer community is much richer for our device.
[Captivate General] joeybear23:
someone's in denial...
[Captivate General] spomytkin:
Captivate ?

Looking for next phone, android top-of-the-line for followigh ussage pattern

* 80% listening to mp3 via stereo BT headset while reading book. Now I’m reading on kindle/phone 80/20, but good screen will shift ratio.

* 5% GPS navigation (iGo)

* 5% tasks/calendar/alarm/contacts/etc.

* 5% email/browsing

* ocasionally eWallet (passwords/CC#/..), notes, ..

So, I belive, most important for me -

screen , next –

simple and reliable connection to stereo BT for musik, preferable autopause on incoming and placing call/resume on hangup, next – batarry life/speed/etc.

Would Captivate be good fit?

On top of it I have one more complication with ATT resent invention – mandatory data plan for smartphones. I have ATT Tilt without data plan and enjoying it’s functionality (reading books, musik, contacts&noyes, GPS navigation,..) and like to keep it this way except change Tilt to something new e.g. GalaxyS (Captivate for ATT/ Vibrant for TMO). I was told by ATT CS my Tilt grandfathered and minute I change something smathphone automatically will cost me +15$... Refurnbished Captivate upgrade offered for 10$ + $18 upgrade fee.

on Craigs list it worth ~$300.

Would Vibrant on ATT network / Captivate on TMO considered non-smartphone (just like my Acer M900 not smart for ATT)?
[Captivate General] Krad:
Say what you will in general day to day use the captivate with any rom is unstable and will need at least one reboot a day. I was like all of you.. flashing daily to get a faster more stable device, but it never happened. The only thing anyone can agree on is the screen is nice.

So your telling me taking a stock 2.2 captivate is faster then a 2.2 streak? with rfs and tw fluff.

My posts are not to troll or upset... i was once like you... sheep... wishing my captivate to be more then what it was... a piece of ****.

I was lucky enough to score a free dell streak from my dell account manager. I wasnt looking for a new device. And was i surprised that i could actually have an android phone that was fast and 100% stable.. perfect for work.

My craptivate is now being used with wifi for my wife to play words with friends and my 2 year old to play fruit ninja.

My wife coming from a blackberry says she likes android but wont carry the captivate and i wont let her due to faulty gps and really bad battery life.

Think of this post as the future. You will in 6 months to a year move off the captivate and will be glad you did?

And why am i hear? Latest nugget was free telenav and icons.

You want to try a real test? Get another device like the streak. Take the 30 min to an hour to set it up exactly the way your captivate is... then use it for a day or two.
[Captivate General] mcord11758:
You are special

CM7
[Captivate General] bames:
I would say the stock 2.2 is similar on the streak and captivate. the captivate + phoenix...supernova....or any # of rums with speedmod blows it out of the water.

BTW captivate doesn't require daily reboots (you should take care not to project your own experience onto others) and there are probably 10+ roms as stable as stock 2.2 on either device
[Captivate General] di11igaf:
if I'm not mistaken, the streak uses the older snapdragon, and the gpu (adreno 200) in that thing is horrid. I had an inspire with the 2nd Gen snapdragon(adreno 205), and it still can not match the hummingbird, and it was returned. If I felt it was better, I would have no doubt kept it. And ya, rfs is pretty bad the way Samsung has it, so all a lagfix does is put them on an even playing field. Delete all Samsung apk's, and touchwiz is damn near gone. Touchwiz framework is still there, but that just adds small stuff like the extra options in notification pulldown, which I would rather have. If your phone was so unstable, it was probably user error or you got a lemon, cause my phone is 100% stable, and pretty much always has been. A bone stock captivate is probably on the same level as a streak, with a hell of a lot better gpu. A captivate with ext4 on 2.2.1 would probably blow the streak out of the water.
[Captivate General] Kailkti:
No idea how the captivate performs against other android phones. But one thing is for sure, it performs better than my hd2 in terms of android. Not so much as stable, but smoother and faster.

One thing I hate though is the horrible camera, atleast for the rom i'm using right now. It does well with macro stills, but anything else is so little detail for a 5mp and so much noise. I've seen other people's stills also and I have to say the pictures aren't impressive at all.

Well I guess for most though, the camera is more of a gimmick rather than a necessity.
[Captivate General] mcord11758:
Have you received enough attention yet? Hold on, let me try this... Dude I wish I was you! You got a streak and I am here with a craptivate. Tell me the story about how great it is, it Is my favorite.

CM7
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
I've been running Andromeda for about a month and the only reason I reboot is to get into recovery so I can add some other nifty piece of joy to it. Been running great for me including GPS.
[Captivate General] Verysafety:
Love the Captivate, great phone. I am learning my Inspire, I much prefer the Captivate's camera capabilities and clarity, as well as the video, but the GPS is what made it a deal breaker for me.
[Captivate General] Rrryan2:
- Music on Captivate is actually pretty excellent, especially if you're using a custom ROM/Kernel with the Voodoo Sound hacks. If you're using it to play lossless FLAC audio files encoded by someone who knew what they were doing over a decent set of headphones, the Captivate provides a basically audiophile-worthy experience at least for a mobile device. Bluetooth is no problem, but Bluetooth audio doesn't offer the same audio quality though, on the Captivate or any other phone.

- iGo isn't widely available for Android yet, but Google Maps navigation and Telenav Basic are free. But GPS performance on these is hit-or-miss especially with stock software. There are hacks and fixes out there that try to improve it (and I wrote one of them lol) but they don't work in 100% of cases and in many others all it does is get to a barely-usable state. If GPS is important, this isn't the device you're looking for.

- e-books on the Captivate are OK, but not as good as Kindle's e-ink display for an e-reader role. The screen is sharp enough but smaller, and consumes more battery.

- contacts email etc: Yeah, this is child's play for captivate or most any modern smartphone.

- battery life on these is non-wonderful though it can be improved with custom software. But in general not many users are able to go more than a day without charging. It's not quite Samsung's fault, it's just the price you pay for carrying around a computer with a 4" screen and a 1ghz cpu in your pocket. Speed is quite decent, especially with custom ROMs and such.

- re: data plan - dude, it's 2011. No carrier is going to give you a smartphone without a data plan any more, though you could buy it without contract and use wifi only. You got lucky with the Tilt, but that luck's not going to stay with you forever. Just no avoiding it if you want a new phone now. I hate to say it and don't mean to be rude, but crying over it isn't going to change it.
[Captivate General] kingmurry:
captivate rules .
[Captivate General] qwertyaas:
What are you even talking about? I don't have restart my phone unless I am flashing something. I had my phone with an uptime of over 900 hours. Read that again. 900 hours - over a month without restarting it.

Your posts are only to troll. And they are nonsense for the most part.

The point most of us have a Captivate is we don't want it stock. An Atrix is basically stuck on stock. Why would I want that?
[Captivate General] dpmurphy81:
I have a captivate,, Do I think it is the best all around phone? Well HELL NO it suffers from a poor file system , a **** GPS and don't even try to say it doesn't. " you would be fooling yourself " even with all the gps fixes it is still way off but if you want a GPS " go buy a real GPS " NOT A PHONE.

WHAT bothers me the most about it is the LACK of support from Samsung and ATT

Now what I like about the phone it is fast "after you MOD the File system" the gaming GPU is second to none,, screen quality is the best.. but clarity has to go to the Iphone 4 " save the comments you know it is true it has higher pixel density. BUT the superamoled has the best color quality with the richer black.

Android is far superior to Apples iOS "if you really want to "I don't know say plug into your PC and xfer anything easily".

build quality "minus GPS" is excellent... and oh wait the best part is that I can load thanks to the DEVS custom ROMs Like CM7 and run Gingerbread "NO THANKS TO SAMSUNG OR ATT.

So with that said will I stay with the Captivate well sure until something better comes along. But I do have to say Samsung is only after the initial buck and cares LESS if you stay around they are not loyal to there customer base. If they were they would release better fixs and updates in more timely matters.

AND ATT " well there a carrier nuff said.

ALL in ALL I like my captivate with gingerbread 2.3.3 CM7 it is the best ROM out there.

AND Google how could you ever lets Manufactures and carriers butcher the best OS there ever was get control of android and stop the hacks lets keep Andriod stock out of the box. then we can all decide what MODS we get to do.

JUST my thoughts...........
[Captivate General] spomytkin:
How is GPS on your 2.3.3 CM7? And in general is it big deal 2.3.3 vs 2.2?

Anything in particular in Gingerbread worth to take in consideration?