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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acerbusconfig:
My SpeedTest numbers are consistently at about 300 kbps during peak hours and about 1 mbps during none peak hours.

I am in the hinterland so I do not have any idea what 4G is like.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spider415:
My 3G has been slow in san francisco =[
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] augoza:
I just got this phone. The stock rom said 3g on the stays bar but it wasn't. I never have bricked a phone, I find it quite hard to do so lol so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong put didn't sprint charge that 10 bones fro evo customers from the start? Way before people started complaining? Its nonsense. There is no way it makes any sense to charge 10 bucks for 4g when you don't even get 3g speeds. Its the definition of unfair. They could simply only charge 10 bucks to areas that get 4g. And when an area gets 4g, than start charging those customers in that area. Its completely logical...in my opinion. And about the woods...seriously the all the assuming is moronic(in my opinion) I live in Oregon Ohio and most of the time I'm in downtown Toledo. No woods just a very urban area. Last but not least, if I'm getting charged 10 bucks for 4g when I don't even get 2g speeds, then I'LLL ***** ALL I WANT. I deserve to. Disagree? That's literally wasting my hard earn money I work for. Right?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hercules rockefeller:
Sprint never charged $10 for 4G on the EVO, not since day one. The $10 fee was for both 3G and 4G. the reasoning was, a phone like the evo is going to get more use on either network, and the end user is going to get more value out of it. something like navigation, which works fine on 3G, is more valuable to you on a 4.3" screen becuase you can see it while you're driving. And all the various widgets and apps that use data in the background run better on a 1GHz processor.

but whether you buy that or not, the reason why Sprint charged the $10 fee for the EVO and EPIC then is the same reason why they charge it to all smartphones now (and really, the reason why anybody charges anyone else anything): because they CAN. If nobody wanted to pay the fee, and the EVO bombed, they'd have dropped it like a hot potato. But obviously enough people thought that overall value was good enough to pay for it, so they didn't. It's the same reason why Verizon's going to tiered data pricing this summer; most people won't mind it. If they start flocking to sprint for unlimited data, you can bet Verizon will raise their prices $10 and offer unlimited data.

As for *****ing about network speeds though, don't let me stop you there. whether you pay $10 extra or not it's your right as a consumer to ***** and moan. Personally I'm getting 2Mbps down on 3g every morning, but by 9 am or so it drops to less than 500Kbps, which is a pain in the neck IMO.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrb123:
for the convenience of a 4.3" screen and 1GHz processor, you're buying an expensive phone with those specs (subsidized by your contract). for your 5GB/unlimited data you're paying a monthly data plan fee. the $10 premium data fee makes no sense in light of those facts. now it's for all smart phones (even non-4g), and sprint still isnt calling it what it is: an increase in data plan pricing. they just rolled it out for the evo to begin with because sprint customers were dying for a great android/4g phone and they could slip it in there relatively unnoticed.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] augoza:
For sure. Valid point. I'm just really bummed now because i just got this phone. I previously had the hero and I notice no difference with performance. Besides angry birds not being choppy... I wanted a better browsing experience and better video experience. I haven't even got to watch an HD video yet, because they wont load. It takes soooo long to download 1 thing at the market. Its bizarre. Plus the 720 HD recording ..I haven't seen that yet.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tailsthecat3:
ive had a few evo's. on my second or third, in epst, my evdo mode was set to CDMA only. out of the box! needless to say, that particular device was returned because of other issues but i found that odd. figured id mention it because like you stated, my display read 3G but it was running 1X.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nosympathy:
pretty sure if you actually pay attention to what you are paying for, on the EVO, having the $10 fee nets you unlimited 3G and 4G data. There is no 5GB soft cap from sprint at that point. A lot of us go way past 5GB on sprints 3G and never see a speed decrease. That is what you are paying for.

I probably do 10GBs plus a month on 3G and they have never said a word to me, and there site even states on anything but broadband cards, if you pay the $10 fee you have truly unlimited 3G data.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] punta21107:
The only problem I have with this is the fact that I didn't pay the fee prior to owning the Evo for unlimited data. I still don't have 4G coverage but yet I still have to pay the fee. I hate Verizon, but at least they were smart to enough to wait to release a "4G" device until they had a large infrastructure to support their customers.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Visionikz03:
WA

these data speed threads are getting annoying!! Cellular data is ALWAYS going to have limitations simply because it's WIRELESS people... if u want more reliable broadband speeds then sit on ur computer at home on ur cable connection or at work on the company LAN!! If u want a better overall cellular experience, move to Europe where u can literally talk on the phone going thru a subway tunnel! Smart phones still serve one sure basic function, to make phone calls. They aren't laptops or desktops with quad-core chips and gigs of RAM or SLR digicams or HD Video recorders. They are celluar phones with expaned convenience features and these extra features are just things to have in a pinch NOT AS A SUBSTITUTE. No company has to guarantee u get certain speeds. That's like the city of Dallas guaranteeing i won't sit in traffic because their roads can theoretically handle high traffic loads. How often do things work out in theory in this world? Get over it people if u don't like sprint and think they are the worst value in wireless and overcharging u by $10/month, then pay the etf if ur on contract and go pay even more to att and see how much better their "talk on ur iphone while surfing the web" is...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] augoza:
Sorry if these threads are annoying to you, simply don't read them then. Because from the looks of it, PEOPLE DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT. I'm very sorry if you're upset. It seems like some people have really terrible 3g speeds and most people don't. I'm not sure if its the area or phone, whatever. It's not because some people mess their phone up because they don't know what they're doing with roms either. I just bought this phone brand new the other day. Right out the box I noticed a huge difference with network speed compared to the phone I was just using (htc hero!) For science sake! That really bummed me out. I didn't unlock the phone for over 24 hours, just to test the stock Rom. POS. It took waaaay longer to dl just one app from the market. Browsing was horrid. So I finally put a custom rom in and still... Bizarre slowness. It's not 3g speeds. I understand your frustration with the thread. I should've just found a previous one with the same topic. But you couldn't imagine how slow this is.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
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your analogy would only be appropriate if the city of dallas published a map saying they promised traffic speeds in a certain range. sprint says my neighborhood should be 600kbps to 1400kbps and it is not.

the $10 fee, when the evo came out, was NOT for unlimited 3G. there was fine print stating 4G was unlimited and 3G could be capped/throttled at 5GB.

people need to realize a big wireless company is never going to do anything for you unless they have to, and often the only recourse is to call and complain about services promised but not delivered.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] augoza:
Yea pretty much. I'd have to call and complain. I probably will. But I already know what they're going to say. First they'll probably tell me to reboot the phone.."hmm okay...go to settings sir, go to system updates, update the profile....hhmm mmkaay..try to update the prl...mmmkkkay..reboot the phone...hhhmmmm..." then they'll tell me to do a system update haha. Fml
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] augoza:
I've come to the conclusion that it's not the network. Like I mentioned earlier, prior to me buying the Evo at best buy, I was using the HTC hero(goodphonebtw). So I switch phones and immediately notice a difference in browsing speed. This is right out the box to, no rooting yet. Downloading an app was was awful. Downloading an app while browsing would qualify for the next Saw movie. Part 12? Idk, who cares...Not your normal slow sprint moments. The reason I posted again was because I have two lines on my sprint account. My roommate uses my other line. I decide to give him my HTC hero. We turned it on...that friggin' phone was fine. His browsing was normal, he could download normal, browse and download simultaneously without a problem. So it's gotta be my phone...this was a few days ago. My Evo is still way slower then his phone AND ITS THE SAME ACCOUNT. BOTH PHONES ARE IN MY NAME. WHAT THE FRIG!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mic.mayorga:
im honestly starting to think in this direction as well. i dont see people with other sprint phones having this problem. i asked my brother to do a speedtest today on his palm pixi (added line on same account) and sure enough he had 1.3 down why i get sub-100kbps. i really think this is a problem with the evo.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] augoza:
OH WOW! thats really werid. Its like two phone share the 3g and he gets most of it..? I have to call them now.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mic.mayorga:
No I don't think thats the case. I am on the same plan but I live 5 hours away. Could that be my problem by any chance??
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] augoza:
WHOA Good news! IT IS THE CASE. The other phone on my account was much faster. Last night I called sprint told them everything. First I had to make sure the rom I was using had the options to update prl and profile etc. All they did was "refresh my data services". Took about 5 mintutes. Now my status bar displays 3g on any rom, instead of the dreaded 1x that was always displayed. Now I can watch videos! I suggest you give them a call people :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GatoEnFuego:
Where is the beating a dead horse emoticon on this site?

Several threads in the General forum regarding this...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] augoza:
And? ...All I know is mines working now. ##data# "data refresh". Now I have 3g
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dseda86:
Unfortunately mileage may vary from customer to customer. My 3g speeds approach 1mbps and on my 4g I've gotten 13mbps.

hTC Evo CM7-n17
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shoobshoober:
consistent 1.7mbps+ in la jolla 3g
[Touch HD General] fernandojulian:
Hello Friends !!

it is my first post and i need help, i want install Windows mobile 6.5 in my htc Touch HD (Blackstone),i dont have link for downloads :(

links download ?? very thanks for you time....

Fernando Julian

PD: i have RUU_BlackStone_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.18.707.3_Radio_52.49a.25.26_1.09.25.14_Ship running this moment, in my htc...

Spanish Version..

Hola amigos!

es mi primer post y necesito ayuda, quiero instalar Windows Mobile 6.5 en mi HTC Touch HD (Blackstone), no tengo enlace para descarga: (

enlaces de descarga? muchas gracias por su tiempo ....

Fernando Julián

PD: tengo RUU_BlackStone_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.18.707.3_Radio_52.49a.25.26_1.09.25.14_Ship ejecutar este momento, en mi htc ...
[Touch HD General] Chef_Tony:
in the blackstone rom development section of this forum you will find a lot of threads marked [ROM]. there you will find different roms by different chefs and you will also find the download links there. when it comes to preparing your device for flashing, there is a "dummy's guide, flashing 1.65+ roms" thread, explaining how to get hspl running on the device, a necessary step before starting flashing. you should read those instructions carefully and also you might want to have a look in the blackstone xda wiki, because flashing your device is not without its risks and you don't want to brick your phone.
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
As per above post, read and follow this guide and you'll be fine. Post any further questions regarding flashing in the Dummies Guide thread
[Galaxy Tab General] Squishie:
Hey people, I'm not sure how many have ran into this issue but I figure it's a handy thing to post:

After playing with Roto-JMI V2 I noticed my camera app was suddenly glitching out, giving me the Camera Failed error.

Figuring it's something screwball with RFS, I changed over to Overcome 1.2.1 with kernel.

First thing I tested was the camera app - worked. Excellent.

I proceed with my usual TI backup restoration and tweaks, re-pair my BT headset, etc. I go to test the camera again. Camera Failed.

Crap.

After some searching and a few other forums (I know, I know, cheating b*stard) I found out that it's ENTIRELY caused by disabling(or deleting) the stock Email.apk. Most people have issues with Fring, an app I've never used.

So there you have it, restore or thaw your Email.apk and your camera works again, go figure.
[Galaxy Tab General] snipestech:
I dont have any backups can you post the apk?
[Galaxy Tab General] Squishie:
One JMI Email.apk coming right up!
[Galaxy Tab General] mtbsoft.:
You Hero! Damned if that isn't the craziest thing!! I would never have guessed at that, I was just about to go down the same path as you (nandroid/TB restore, etc.) when I came across your post. Thank you sooooo much for posting this.

I can only guess that some wierd library dependancy exists in the email code - thank goodness for TB freeze/defrost.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neuman.Tim:
I havent bricked my wifes Dinc or anything, but if I do I want to be able to fix it quickly and successfully. I know with my Fascinate I can odin an all inclusive package to set it back to complete stock (thank you adryn), is there something along those lines with the Dinc? What would your steps be if you bricked your Dinc?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RMarkwald:
A bricked Inc means can't get to HBoot, no lights when hooked up to charger, no power, and battery pull does nothing. You'd have to get a new phone, cause at that point you have a paper weight.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NotATreoFan:
HTC devices are more difficult to unbrick, so always be 110% certain of anything you do which could result in a non-boot situation.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neuman.Tim:
Alright. Also where do I get the cwr 2.5.1.2 image? Right now I've got it running 3x and don't want to risk it screwing up when flashing a rom. Specifically IncRom 1.4.

Edit: just found doug piston's site. Everything I need is there :D

SCH-I500 - EB16 Super FrankenClean EoW Froyo/Voodoo5/Dummy Tether/NitroDark 2.3 Theme
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] POQbum:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11904517&postcount=6601

Also to the OP, being bricked means it is now a brick and at that point no longer able to do anything :p

To my knowledge I don't know of any method of unbricking.

There are few situations that risk you bricking your phone, so in those just make sure you do your research well and don't rush into it.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] i8qbert:
Like the others said, if you can get to hboot...all is well. No hboot=expensive paper weight.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scoobntaz1996:
ok i got a question. i am s-on and i can get to h-boot. i unrooted because i was going to sell it. the problem is after unrooting it boot loops when it gets to the droid eye. i have tried doing the adb but the pc doesn't does recognize the phone. when i try and go into recovery from h-boot i get a bunch of errors on the screen. so it is s-on with hboot .92 and .07.07 radio baseband. is there any hope for saving this phone? thnaks.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] BlueHarford:
Please look at this link for submitting. http://forum.savaged-zen.org/showthread.php?55-ROM-Wallpaper-Thread

We are looking for submittions and new ideas for wallpapers. We'd like to keep it close to our theme. but original android themes will be looked at as well.

Hope to get some cool responses.
[Atrix 4G General] 4mynikka:
I'm with Rogers here in Canada and hated the fact that AT&T was on the battery cover so I did a little experiment and it worked.

1) Get a Penny

2) Using the Penny slowly scratch off the AT&T Logo and make sure you don't press that hard.

3) Wipe your phone battery cover and now it is debranded and the AT&T Logo is Gone and you're phone is scratch free.

*** Use at your own risk I did it on my Atrix and it's perfect but I take no responsibility and I can't guarantee it won't damage your phone ***
[Atrix 4G General] franciscojavierleon:
how about a picture?
[Atrix 4G General] phobos512:
Can't you just use sugar? That's the safe way, because the sugar breaks down as you go. Saw it on Lifehacker, but here's the direct link:

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-remove-Logos-from-your-PDA--cell-phone-wit/
[Atrix 4G General] CC Lemon:
Kind of silly how easy that was... I tried a few things and it seems like the penny idea is the best so far. Have some patience. It eventually "catches" on the ink a bit and once part of it comes off, it's a lot easier to get off. I was able to get it off with my fingernail once I got it chipped a little.

I did the AT&T, HD Video and moto logo. Posting pics in a minute. Camera battery is dead.

Edit: ^ I can't speak for everyone, but I don't have sugar cubes sitting around. Even if I did, the prep for that method would take as long as this did. It's really up to the owner to choose, but having just tried the method described in this thread, I'd have to say there's not reason not to just grab a coin and start rubbing. The hardest part was getting up off my couch to grab a penny lol.

Added Pictures:

And just so people don't freak out when they try this: Not sure about the OP, but you can barely see where the logos used to be from certain angles in the right lighting. I really, really have to try to see it, but it can be spotted. This might go away in a few days.. time will tell. It was really easy to bring out with the camera for some reason, so here is a shot with that showing up:
[Atrix 4G General] fr0z3n:
Loveeeer itttt! The penny worked, took me 2 minutes. Thank you
[Atrix 4G General] jug6ernaut:
Very nice.
[Atrix 4G General] Rev1vaL:
awesome! literally took me 2 minutes as well.

looks so clean!
[Atrix 4G General] 4mynikka:
HOly crap I just took off the AT&T Logo not the Motorola Stuff....
[Atrix 4G General] tekonus:
Aww damn, I wish I saw this before I got my ghost armor full body protector put on saturday... I'd feel dumb having them reinstall it just to take the logos off.
[Atrix 4G General] acPIZZA:
What are you guys going to do when it comes time to sell your Atrix down the road? Was it really that big of a bother?
[Atrix 4G General] konawayne:
Your point? I think most people like debranded phones, especially the types who will be buying atrix's in 6-9 months for 400 or so bucks, which I think is the amount of time folks who debrand on this forum will have the phone.
[Atrix 4G General] CC Lemon:
It's a small thing that makes it look cleaner in my opinion. I'd imagine I can just buy a new cover by the time I might be looking at selling my phone. As mentioned, it might not even be an issue that a buyer would care about anyways.
[Atrix 4G General] Bakedbread:
ahha WOW THANKS OP!

i'm waiting for my AT&T Atrix in the mail right now but i was wondering the EXACT SAME THING for the longessst time!

i personally hate branded phones, and i was gonna see if Motorola sold battery covers on their site just to get an "unbranded" cover, but i will DEF try this penny trick once i get my Atrix :D

I'm also curious if Bell Canada will release with the Bell branded logo on the cover...

it's coming out next week
[Atrix 4G General] 4mynikka:
Bells phones are never branded and when their phone comes out it will be $599 plus taxes, I paid a little less than that plus I got one now. To be honest I haven't used mine yet I'm still waiting on the unlock code so its just sitting in my closet.
[Atrix 4G General] NotATreoFan:
If you are willing to test it, with no warranty asserted by me, try a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser on what little bit it left. After peeling off the 100+ letters that comprised the name/location of the shady dealer where I bought my car, a few light passes of the eraser removed the faint outline that remained of the letters.
[Atrix 4G General] eatkabab:
holy crap. that was the easiest case mod I've ever done on a phone. I literally did it in 30sec with the rounded back of my key. My old windows phones (SMT5600 particularly) had their logos on much harder than this thing
[Atrix 4G General] fr0z3n:
seriously i think i love my phone a lot more than before after this :)
[Atrix 4G General] nickleson:
I love my att logo as well as the Motorola logo. Both companies have done good things so far.
[Atrix 4G General] slowpc:
Yep , I just did my mod to my atrix ... I love my pretty much unbranded N1 and now I have my atrix right there with it. Left just the moto label and removed all else and the blur added piece.
[Atrix 4G General] link12245:
Did it with a dull key, looks great. No more AT&T, MOTO BLUR, HD Video, or on button logos!
[Atrix 4G General] dwd3885:
I like the at&T logo and the Moto logo, but I DID remove the blur and HD Video. So simple! Thanks!

And trust me, no one will care on ebay when you sell. Also, I doubt Moto would even care for warranty work.
[Atrix 4G General] EvoAtrix:
Very nice, took off my AT&T and the blur decals. Left the Motorola and the HD Video on, now it looks great, Thanks bud.
[Atrix 4G General] SS2006:
the guys who have this in canada

do any of you get this problem where an incoming calls hows up as 'payphone'
[Atrix 4G General] sdlopez83:
Sugar cube method, believe your less likes to leave a scratch
[Atrix 4G General] CC Lemon:
That's not really related to the thread topic... best post this question somewhere else.

I honestly can't see it at all now. I just looked at it in multiple light settings and from different angles and can't see anything. I can still find it using the camera... though I don't really care about that. I'd give it a try if it was something I could actually spot with my eyes, but even at the ridiculously low cost/effort the magic eraser would take, it doesn't seem worth it. If anyone is having issues with being able to see it still, that's definitely a good tip that would be worth trying.

Might be less likely, but this penny method seems surprisingly effective. The sugar cube method seems like it's intended for the more durable logos. Like I said in my post earlier, it's kind of silly how easy the logos came off this case. I can't guarantee that there wont be scratches, but it seems like it would be difficult to do.
[Atrix 4G General] olieebur:
This is awesome. I've always hated carrier brandings on the phone. Loved the clean look when I had the Nexus One..

Phones are so much like cars IMO.. lol
[Atrix 4G General] eatkabab:
Its kinda tough to push hard enough to scratch when using a penny/nickel/rounded back of key. The stuff scrapes off so easily you can probably do it with your nail.
[Atrix 4G General] SS2006:
anyway to do the opposite get a 'Google' or 'with google' there

I took off the 'Blur' , kept moto, kept HD Video (cause its boss)

and took off the power/lock icon at the top near power button

I am keeping ATandT for one reason, when bell gets the atrix and more people get it, my phone wont be unique nemore, with the AT&T on it, ill always be able to say i got mine FIRST