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[Hero CDMA General] someonenewhere:
I couldn't help myself, but I had to get the EVO 4G......and since I have a 30 day return policy..I can return it and get the E3D...but I might just stay with the EVO 4G....
[Hero CDMA General] Riff76:
Forgot where I saw it but Kingdom is the codename for the phone and it will be released as Hero 2. Sniff sniff, a little nostalgia...
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Hmm... I might consider waiting for it. I don't know, the 3vo is mighty tempting.

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[Hero CDMA General] someonenewhere:
E3D has a horrible battery life...

The 5mp cameras suck...

Engadget says so...lol
[Hero CDMA General] Riff76:
Engadget said the same thing about the first EVO. They are big crapple fans there anyways.
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
yeah, especially because they took a **** load of pictures which will drain battery on any phone, especially 3D pictures. me? I probably won't ever use the 3D unless im connected to power. Hopefully I can use my EVO battery on the 3D just like I use my hero battery on the evo as a spare battery.
[Hero CDMA General] :
The batteries are different from what I've read...

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[Hero CDMA General] :
So the bottom line of the review is that it's no different from all other HTC and Android phones Engadget talks bad about.

Engadget sucks.

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[Hero CDMA General] imninsomniac:
Absolutely, that's why I picked it up when I did. :)
[Hero CDMA General] someonenewhere:
Yeah, but I'm sure the battery its probably worse than the evo 4g...
[Hero CDMA General] Riff76:
I'm hearing dual core is more battery efficient than single core snap dragon. The two chips combine can finish a task in theory half the time a single core can. Since the single core has to keep the screen lit double the time of the dual core, that is draining the battery.

I'm sure there are arguments going the other way, but take notice HTC is including a better battery in the 3D than in the EVO.
[Hero CDMA General] :
As an English and Philosophy double major, I have to point out that if you are "sure" of something then there cannot be a "probably". You can't be positive of something that only MAY be true unless that something you are sure of is your statement negating itself and essentially meaning nothing more than a premature statement based on speculation and opinion of one review and not actual real world use ;)

Battery life can't be detrmined untill people actually use the phone in their own manner. The Hero has great battery life for me but not for others and is based on many usage factors...I trust no one but my own experience on things...what's good for the goose is not for the gander...the reverse is also true.

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[Hero CDMA General] gr33kb0i94:
Omg i cant wait for the evo 3d
[Hero CDMA General] someonenewhere:
Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger..

I'm pretty sure engadget spent a good amount of time with the device...

Other reviews are almost alike when it comes to battery and camera..
[Hero CDMA General] il Duce:
Ranger, I hope you grow your voice back in 3vo land, I love you.

Edit: @some1where - most of the reviews put the batt around 14 hours. The camera is purported to be better than the evo. Maybe you want iphone?
[Hero CDMA General] stayclean:
They also left all the radios on. Also, it's running Sense.
[Hero CDMA General] someonenewhere:
how dare of you to insult me like that!

I'm android all the way! I could never settle for a phone with the same UI through out the years..

Plus I like to be free...something iphone users don't have..
[Hero CDMA General] :
It'll be there brother...I have a great deal to say to them ;)

@someone...the reviews I have seen put the battery life and camera on par with all other high end devices...speed and performance were higher. Again, I rely on MY experience over that of iPhone biased reviewers :)

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[Hero CDMA General] someonenewhere:
I'm not doubting the speed and performance, just the battery and camera...
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
ima just get the phone, review it myself. if it works for me, then great. if it doesn’t ill return it, get the ns4g for a while, then decide whether or not i will get the evo3d or sgs 2
[Hero CDMA General] Riff76:
@Someone, I guarantee you Engadget left 4G on and were in a bad 4G service area.

Do what Fowenati said, try it out and if you don't like it, get OG EVO or the Nexie.

If you really want the best battery life than maybe an old BB curve or something LOL
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
Also the SGS II should be coming out soon, so when that comes out trade in the evo/nex for the sgsII
[Hero CDMA General] jackzepplin:
That's what I was thinking of doing, but I think we only have a 30 day return/exchange policy with Sprint so I need the GS II to come out by July 24.
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
Get the EVO3D the 24th. if you dont like it, get the NS4G or Epic or whatever before 30 days. keep doing that until the SGSII comes out.

PS: Its 30days per phone.
[Hero CDMA General] il Duce:
That takes flash whore to a whole new level. lmfao
[Hero CDMA General] :
Agreed. Feed the monster. :)

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[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
what do you mean by flash whore lol?

edit: woops wrong quote
[Hero CDMA General] :
Flash Whore = one who cannot go a day without flashing something. ROMS, mods and tweaks are an addiction to flash whores. :)

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[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
Got me... I root and flashed all my friends phones, family, and a ton of people from my school. Probably done around 100 phones total lol. As well as my phones :D Although I go to fb more often, I spend more time on XDA lurking through EVERY (I mean EVERY) section, thread, category for android.
[Hero CDMA General] jackzepplin:
Nice. I suppose I could pull that off.
[Hero CDMA General] Overstew:
LG's OMAP processor is way better than HTC's Qualcomms.
[Hero CDMA General] alecblumenfeld:
i dont know i really cant stand looking at the cheapo evos on ebay idk its an upgrade from my hero and it will hold me ove until sprint gets a nvida 4x phone that is faster then the mac book im typing on
[Hero CDMA General] killabee44:
Yep... They are pretty cheap now. That was another option I was considering too. Everything depends on what Sprint announces. I think it has to be a dual core device (I hope lol).
[Hero CDMA General] LedGrip:
Why would LG make an HTC branded phone? Seems to me that the makers of the "HTC Evo" would also make the Evo 3D.

I just bought an Evo about 3 weeks ago outright at the sprint store and a couple days ago my daughter threw it in the toilet. So I reverted to my Hero until my new one is sent to me sometime this week.

I'm due for an upgrade in June I think. And I will probably be getting the Evo 3D. I saw the video of the game they were playing. Very impressive. Plus anything with a duel core processor is a good way to go.
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Sort of how Moto makes all droids? Oh, wait, they don't. Evo is to Sprint as Droid is to Verizon. Its a brand name owned by the carrier, not the manufacturer.

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[Hero CDMA General] Overstew:
Seeing the EVO's market success, I don't think they'd care if it was perceived as an HTC phone by the public, as long as they get their profit.
[Hero CDMA General] LedGrip:
Either way I'm only getting it if its an HTC phone. I've had nothing but great experiences with HTC. The Hero Cdma while running sense is ****. Cm7 makes it a decent phone being that it was one of the first android phones on sprint. The Evo is IMO the best phone on the market right now because of it speedy processor and duel cameras (8.0mpx-back, 3.0mpx front) and the HDMI out is a nice feature. When running CM7 Nightly build #19 it really couldn't be a better phone. I will be looking forward to an HTC Evo 3D in a few months, hopefully ...

These are just my opinions. I'm not saying that everyone should think HTC is the best. I'm just saying me and HTC get along real good
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Indeed. I love HTC. :D

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[Hero CDMA General] killabee44:
Well, if this:

New Images of the HTC Pyramid Surface

http://phandroid.com/2011/03/15/new-images-of-the-htc-pyramid-surface/

turns out to be the Evo2, and it has a dual core processor, Im sold...

I doubt it though because rumor is that it's going to be on T-mobile. At this point, who really knows though.
[Hero CDMA General] LedGrip:
That's slick as hell. I hope that if the Evo has a kickstand its centered somehow because sometimes it don't want to stand
[Hero CDMA General] JerenOtt:
Have they been announced or are you just talking about the rumors?
[Hero CDMA General] killabee44:
It has not been announced but all new devices will be on the 22nd of this month.
[Hero CDMA General] dpeeps74:
That pyramid looks yummy

[dpeeps74]
[Hero CDMA General] XxDjbluexX:
Actually the pyramid is rumored to be the next nexus phone
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Fairly certain that the Evo 3D is an HTC with 1.2 ghz dualcore and one gig of ram. The Pyramid is the 3d, I would put money on it.

http://androidandme.com/2011/03/carriers/evo-3d-and-evo-view-4g-specs-leak/

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[Hero CDMA General] someonenewhere:
Im going to get the Nexus S 4G....no Evo 3D for me.
[Hero CDMA General] stayclean:
http://m.androidcentral.com/sprints...ils-leaked-expect-evo-3d-evo-view-4g-and-xoom
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
If those specs are true, I want one and I want it now!

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[Hero CDMA General] ULoveAriana:
Yep an Evo 3D in my little hand sounds good & HTC is FTW!

My Hero is eating grape poptarts
[Hero CDMA General] thesparky007:
spec sheet from ctia leak says front camera is 1.3 mp but this guys says its 3mp....

we'll have to see if thats true
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Well, if the battery is interchangable with the Evo, I believe that means it's interchangable with the Hero, too. Mmmm.... so if I can't have a 3d on launch, maybe I can wrangle a new battery.

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[Hero CDMA General] S3NATOR:
Anyone know which phone most of the Hero devs are going to upgrade too? I'm really liking the EVO 3D.
[Hero CDMA General] stayclean:
Let me ask my magic 8-Ball.
[Hero CDMA General] il Duce:
well, having just watched the release video I am VERY excited about the evo 3d.
[Hero CDMA General] oohaylima:
Right! I just more about it on Zdnet. The Evo 3D looks incredible. Dual core baby!! This may be the phone I've been waiting for.
[Hero CDMA General] srb7215:
The HTC Evo 3D is probably the next phone people will jump at. I think this is the phone a lot of people have been waiting for. It will be interesting to see if anyone is left to work the Hero after both of these phones become available. I know I won't be.
[Hero CDMA General] cjackxiii:
Any one wanna speculate on when the release date will be?

I bet it will be within the first week of June, like the original evo.

Considering the release of the evo shift and how verizon handles there droid brand the release date can be as random as they want it to be. The beginning of june would also put it slightly ahead of the iphone 5 (late june?) but I don't think the new release of the an iphone has the kind of impact it used to on the smartphone market, I mean even the ipad 2, in my opinion, did not receive the kind of reception from the media the iphone, 3g, 3gs, or original ipad did.
[Hero CDMA General] cjackxiii:
OT- Love the phone but I'm worried what will happen if a couple months down the road Sprint announces they're jumping to LTE. I was hoping they would have included the ability to use both wimax and lte but unfortunately it makes this otherwise perfect phone a gamble
[Hero CDMA General] XxDjbluexX:
I had bern tracking bluescreen's post and pretty much everything he said was false..I'm waiting for him to post something else on android forums but whatever...I can't wait to get my hands on the evo 3d
[Hero CDMA General] someonenewhere:
Omg! The Evo 3D looks so pretty! .. I want the Nexus S 4G because of the updates, but I think I'm sold with the Evo 3D...
[Hero CDMA General] cooolone2:
Sprint has released new phones in June interestingly to coincide with Apple usually, lol.

I too have been awaiting WORD that a new EVO type phone would be out with some horsepower upgrades. Well my patience has been answered with the EVO 3D, all I can say is WOW. I have been eligible for upgrading since October as well. I held out on the EVO because I thought in the 1st Q Sprint would unload all the info on new phones... lol, how wrong I was. But now, wowowowow... The EVO 3D is looking REAL good. Was going to go for the Nexus s, but didn't really like the idea of a Samsung and HTC has answered the call.

I can finally retire my tired but faithful HERO! Just need it to limp until June (assuming it's out then) for me, Ya' Baby!!!
[Hero CDMA General] The Fer-Shiz-Nizzle:
My thoughts precisely. Sitting on an upgrade since December, and I am glad I held out. And I've got 11 years with sprint, so i'm as good as gold (pun intended!)
[Hero CDMA General] bobbyhu$TLe:
Yeah, it's pretty silly to even waste that much time developing the story and typing all that...for what? Haha..you got me bluescreen...now what...kill yourself I guess.
[Hero CDMA General] oohaylima:
What did it say???????
[Hero CDMA General] jeremyhilton:
Same here but unfortunately it is a Samsung ;)
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
As it is running pure android and it's the new dev device, I doubt you will see update issues that plague other Samsung devices on the Nexus S.

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[Hero CDMA General] dpeeps74:
Both of these phones look pretty nice to me. I am wishing they'd sneak that nexus online before next Friday but that won't happen. I've been a loyal HTC user for several years, this being my 4th HTC.. but after having a taste of android and apps I prefer and such.. I think I may have to jump ship. I know Samsung leaves a bad taste in many mouths... but so do i? Honestly though, everyone I've known with an epic likes it and has no issues and the Samsung my son has runs like a champ. I think I'm pretty much over sense. I've tried running it so many times since trying out CM roms and I never last more than a day.

So the nexus s 4g is getting my vote.. the real question is whether I'll be able to hold out till December

[dpeeps74]
[Hero CDMA General] stayclean:
Nice phone, but if you're waiting until the end of the year, I'd probably just get something else. If the past is anything to go by, there will be a new Nexus device by January.
[Hero CDMA General] dpeeps74:
Yeah no doubt if I wait for my upgrade there may be other options. The "outdated" hardware thing I think will be pretty irrelevant upgrading from a hero. Really the hero runs fine for me just It's too small and I'm getting arthritis in my thumbs.

[dpeeps74]
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
Im most likely gonna get the EVO3D for a several reasons

1. HTC has the most Devs out there so lots of Support will be behind it and that is a very important thing.

2. DUALLLLLCOOREEEEEEEEEEE YUM

3. 540x960 Display is beautifulllllllll

4. The 3D is something I can care less about but a cool feature to brag about nonetheless lool

5. The Battery is better than the Atrix's

6. HTC>MOTO

7. HTC's build quality is I must say the best on the market.

I might get the CDMA Atrix if it comes to Sprint and I find the 3D to be annoying.
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Well, it seems that HTC is starting to lock their bootloaders. First, the Thunderbolt, now there's rumors that the Incredible S is going to have a locked one, too. At this rate, it would not surprise me if the 3D did, as well. Seems that HTC is starting to act like Moto. Boo.

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[Hero CDMA General] MrDowntown12:
Yeah that's kinda disheartening to hear, but really all it means is we have to wait a little longer to get stuff going. :)
[Hero CDMA General] aven_soulgazer:
How much of a chance is there they'd do that with as many wimax products as they have out? They seem heavily invested into wimax at this point.
[Hero CDMA General] killabee44:
Im sure they'll still run the wimax network for a while since so many users will still have wimax on their phones, so no worries.

As far as HTC acting like Moto and locking down their bootloaders, yeah, I read about that.

I feel that's terrible!

Common HTC!!!!

What da hell?
[Hero CDMA General] pgreptom:
I called Sprint, and you are correct.

But I just simply told the rep that if my eligibility for an upgrade disappears, I will just cancel. I think it cost me $50 to cancel right now as I'm near my 2 year commitment. I also told her I might consider switching to AT&T now since they merged with T-Mobile. She got on the phone with a cancelation manager, and the manager said he would notate my account and promised I would be eligible for the EVO 3D when it came out. I told him if he tries to play me, I will just write a formal complaint against him and cancel either way. Got his Sprint ID# and his name.

After the EVO 3D gets "old", I will just cancel with Sprint. Part of the reason I switched to Sprint was for the premier program. I think it's really ****ty that it's one of the perks of having Sprint, but since it's not in any contract they can cancel it any time and it drastically effects your happiness.
[Hero CDMA General] stayclean:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=996616

I'm not really too worried. ;)

Also, don't forget the G2 took two or so months to get S-OFF.
[Hero CDMA General] steve19137:
while both of those phones would be fantastic, i still really want a physical kayboard. if they can get out a high-end phone with a keyboard (hopefully an htc), then its mine. otherwise, ill get the evo shift. i consider it a mid-range phone because of the little fanfare. but id still get it because it has been getting cm7 nightlies recently, its got wimax, and some wild OC'ing kernels out there :D oh, and a miui port coming to it :D
[Hero CDMA General] dpeeps74:
The reason I have Sprint is I get a 20% discount on service and a 25% discount on equipment and their plans still blow everyone out of the water even with a $10 data fee. And even without my discounts that's the case. There is really no reason to be on any other carrier unless you have money to blow or you travel international a lot. Or you want an iPhone.

[dpeeps74]
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
I just called Sprint today and I'm eligible for upgrade on 4/1. I asked if I could hang on to the upgrade until June and get the Evo 3D and I quote Ms. Candy Brown in Charlotte, NC, my Sprint assistant today, "You sure can."

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[Hero CDMA General] dpeeps74:
i see this as a learning point for our younger viewers...boys, no matter what the stripper says, she doesn't work for sprint, she just wants your $20
[Hero CDMA General] Sidewindr:
Err you might want to rethink that, the Droid and EVO brands are owned by the manufacturer not the carrier ..
[Hero CDMA General] davidevan:
im stillpondering bout this whole "3d"

thing with this evo, holograms hell yeah, but i doubt it
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Indeed? So Motorola allowed a competitor, HTC, to use a owned and copyrighted brand name, Droid, for at least two of their devices, the Eris and the Incredible,just because? I think not, sir. With the Droid ad campaign as successful as it is, why do you only see "Droid" phones on VZW? Because they licensed the Droid name from Lucasfilm, not Moto.

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[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
It was $15, not $20. :D

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[Hero CDMA General] Sidewindr:
HTC have always had their HBOOT's and images signed and locked .. :rolleyes:

That's part of the origins of xda-devs was a community of people trying to break the locks (originally on WiMo) back in the early days of the smart phone.
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Hmm, didn't know that one. Though, from what I understand, they are getting a little more vigorous in their locking and encrypting. Right now, it seems to only be on Verizon devices, but time will tell what they are doing.

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[Hero CDMA General] Sidewindr:
You cannot copyright a brand/trademark you have to trademark it.. copyright is for creative material etc.

DROID is simply a Marketing term used by Verizon, DROID was trademarked by Lucas Film in 2009 but is presently under suspension pending a federal report. It is NOT trademarked by either Verizon nor HTC in the USA.

EVO however is not an exclusively Sprint term as the EVO 4G was a special production run for Sprint (basically a 4G version of the Desire HD). There is at present no trademark registered for EVO in the USA. The EVO 3D is not exclusive to Sprint and I can go purchase one from my HTC retailer once they are shipped, I could not do this with the EVO 4G.

Also the EVO 3D is, according to HTC's own specs, a 3G phone and not a 4G phone. I would imagine that HTC will produce a HTC 4G 3D for Sprint. So I don't know why this thread comparing the Nexus S 4G and the EVO 3D as they are built for different radio networks.
[Hero CDMA General] Sidewindr:
Every device is different, the HTC Wildfire with the latest HBOOT has not yet been exploited. It is not a crack down it is a natural progression in software development, all the methods to root or unlock smart phones, game consoles etc. simply exploit bugs in the software to gain elevated access. As software is developed bugs get fixed and the exploits/holes get plugged. However in NOT one piece of complex software in existence is big free. The trick is trying to find these holes without the source code and that can at times be time consuming.

The encryption/signing is a way of ensuring the upgrade/software is complete and from a trusted source before it is installed. Simple public/private key encryption and signing, to unlock a device they don't even attempt to decrypt the software.
[Hero CDMA General] Sidewindr:
Upon further trademark investigations the following are trademarked by HTC Corp. NOT Sprint. :D

"HTC EVO 4G SHIFT"

"HTC EVO SHIFT 4G"

"HTC EVO VIEW 4G"

Amazingly "HTC EVO" is not trademarked at present.

Also, Apparently Droid is licensed to Verizon by Lucas Film. Although I am not sure how you can license a trademark that is under suspension. So we were both right to an extent, 70/30 in my favour ;)
[Hero CDMA General] davidevan:
i saw the Engadget preview of the Evo 3D

annnnd... its neat, but if the specs are still the same, do we really need more eye candy? haahhaha
[Hero CDMA General] stayclean:
I'm guessing you haven't read the thread or anything about the 3D at all, ha (hint: besides the screen size and the physical dimensions, the specs aren't the same.. at all. Unless the EVO had a dual-core hidden in there. And 1gb of RAM. :p).
[Hero CDMA General] davidevan:
WELL then, i stand corrected haha
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
Evo4G

1Ghz Proc

512mb RAM

TFT Display

480x800

1500mAh Battery

2D Screen/Camera

2.2

Evo3D

1.2Ghz DUAL CORE Proc

1gb RAM

S-LCD

540x960

1730mAh Battery

2.3

Adreno 220 GPU

3D Screen/Camera