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[Hero CDMA General] obsanity:
Aparently Nexus S 4G just cleared FCC.

Here is a question. They are talking about a tether charge for the Nexus S 4G. Will this be a mandatory charge? After all, this will be pure Google phone and sprint can't turn that feature off if I understand it correctly. This article points out that it is an optional $29.99 but I don't see how they can turn that off. I imagine that after rooting the phone, which Google allows for and has instructions on how to do that, you should be able to just tether natively.

Here are the specs. BTW, what is 3.1 EV-DO?
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
EVDO 3.1 is an incorrect term. EVDO goes by letters (RevA , RevB). EVDO RevA Maxes out at 3.1mbps (but you wont get even close to that speed normally just as 3G maxes out at much more than what we get on our phones).
[Hero CDMA General] obsanity:
Anyone care to comment?
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Not really, as Sprint already charges for that functionality, so it's nothing new.

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[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
It will be the same as all other Android phones on Sprint I believe, if you root, you lose warranty, and that is their arguement. WifiTether for Sprint's Androids is nothing new at all. Ive been doin it for a while now.
[Hero CDMA General] bso44:
I wonder if the Evo 3D will be able to toggle between 3G and 4G like the Nexus S. Can the regular Evo do that?
[Hero CDMA General] stayclean:
Of course it can. Why wouldn't it?
[Hero CDMA General] bso44:
I don't know. That's why I asked.
[Hero CDMA General] term117:
What do you guys think the price will be with contract on this baby? 299.. 399
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Somewhere around what the Tbolt is, $249, maybe less.

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[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
I hope it doesn't get sold out n all, I would stand in line for one but my contract ends mid June, so unless it releases after I can't. I have a lump of $350 set up for whatever the price of it may be, the cheaper, the more accessories i can get.
[Hero CDMA General] n33sirgp:
Can't wait for EVO3D it's bout to be sweet!!!
[Hero CDMA General] kashb91:
went to best buy and my local sprint store today, both in coral springs florida. BB had a display model with a zip tie across the screen, stupid cant even properly use the screen, with a price tag of 569 off contract i believe. asked an employee at sprint and he said that the phone might be in next week. as for for the display at BB, the internet was off so i couldnt do much. the screen lagged a bit when swiping from one to another, but that was because of a LWP. Camera images looked better than the hero and the screen looks good. its a bigger phone than the hero, but not as big as the EVO. at least it didnt feel that way in my hand. the entire screen is as big as my hero.
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
Is this the EVO 3D or the Nexus S 4G? If it’s the Nexus S 4G, how did you know it was 4G? I have seen Nexus S all over BestBuy Stores, and yeah the Nexus S may be released in Late April-Early May according to many people and blogs. I believe that it’s original launch date was April 18th.
[Hero CDMA General] Nsandhu23:
It's already available for pre order on Best Buys website.

From my Gingerbread Hero.
[Hero CDMA General] kashb91:
fairly sure it was the nexus 4G. it had a giant sprint logo on display right on top of it, along with the evo 4g right next to it.
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
wow awesome's all i got to say.
[Hero CDMA General] someonenewhere:
I'm getting the Nexus S 4G.... :-)

What am I gonna do with the evo and hero?
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Reasonable price and ill buy the evo. Pm if interested.

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[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
Personally I'd wait for the EVO3D if I were you, if you already have the EVO why take the same generation year old processer? Wait it out a bit and get the EVO3D.

Use them as guinea pigs for testing :D
[Hero CDMA General] MinceMan:
Also I wouldn't be surprised if the GS II came out on sprint before the end of the summer. I'm waiting to make sure I get a dual core phone so no Nexus S for me.
[Hero CDMA General] someonenewhere:
I want to sell it, but I want to keep the EVO because of the Camera...its a good phone though..

I want the EVO3D so bad, but I can't not wait.....plus the Nexus S 4G will be getting updates more than the EVO3D you know...but we'll see if I do decide to wait out and get the EVO3D ..i been out of a contract with Sprint for almost 3 years now, I buy my phones at full price..
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
just wanted too peek in here since i used to own a hero, several of them. :mad:

i just bought the nexus s 4g and im coming from an evo.
[Hero CDMA General] luisdg:
Goodbye Hero, you were good to me.
[Hero CDMA General] laie1472:
Ha. Sup fixxer??? Glad to see your still here on xda. So hows the nexus s compared to the evo??

#Root/Hack-Mod_Always*
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
i woulda waited for the evo3d if i were u :)
[Hero CDMA General] xDragod:
I'd really like either of these phones, but I'm kind of apprehensive.. I'm not eligible for upgrade until December, but if I go with the Evo 3D, I feel like something new will be just around the corner. I want something cutting-edge if I am going to have it for the next two years.

I also really want a Pure Google phone... The only thing is, I feel like the Nexus S will get left behind soon. I want to see what Google has up its sleeve with Ice Cream and to see if we get a Google phone with dual core, notification LED, and SD expansion... I'm hoping that this will all work itself out by December.
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
You've got a while. Wait until September before even considering what you want. More than 6 Months before you get to upgrade, so many devices could be released. I'd say by December Sprint will have the SGS II and possibly a phone with a 1.5GHz Dual Core processer.
[Hero CDMA General] dreign:
im thinking nexus S over evo 3d
[Hero CDMA General] Greefus:
I want the Nexus S since it comes out on Sunday but it's kind of old, been on T-Mobile for a while without 4G WiMax. EVO 3D appears to have a way faster processor and tons of RAM but it's a gigantic rectangle and it's not out yet. I only get $75 off now, but get $150 off in August. For me the Nexus has a nicer size and form factor but I've heard HTC phones seem to be better quality than Samsung and you can have Sense. I don't know what to do.
[Hero CDMA General] Dave615:
I'm cancelling my Verizon contract early and going to Sprint. I'm coming from a Droid 1 and debating now which Android phone to get. I don't like that the Nexus S doesn't have microSD expansion, no HD picture/video and no HDMI out. These are all features that should be standard nowadays. My shutoff date for VZ is May 23rd so I doubt the Evo3D will be released by then. I was also thinking about the Evo Shift, but it's too much like the Droid and I'd want something new and different. Decisions, decisions.
[Hero CDMA General] markhirt:
Wait till august
[Hero CDMA General] Dave615:
I would be without a phone for almost 3 months if I waited until then.
[Hero CDMA General] jasonmaloney:
If for some reason you wanted to wait, Virgin Mobile's Beyond Talk no-contract plans actually offer some really great rates ($60/mo for unlimited everything), and they are a part of the Sprint network.
[Hero CDMA General] Dave615:
Thanks, but I am getting the hookup on a Sprint employee plan.
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
Why?

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[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
The EVO3D id guess comes out same time as EVO4G, like early June
[Hero CDMA General] Dave615:
Only downside is, by then the instant rebate will be over. I was hoping to only have to spend $200 for my next phone. I have my wife's old Palm Pre I can maybe use for a few weeks until the Evo3D comes out. I'll probably end up paying $300+ for it and have to send in a Mail-in Rebate. :mad:
[Hero CDMA General] Dave615:
Did anyone (in the U.S. Sprint arena) get the Nexus S yesterday? What are your thoughts about it?
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
I read somewhere that Sprint is going to only do instant rebates from now on, for mail ins though if I ever had a problem with it I would just tell sprint and then they would make sure it got sent or credit me that much.
[Hero CDMA General] Dave615:
That would be awesome if it's true! I need to have my wife call about her rebate. She got the Evo shortly after it came out and we haven't seen the rebate at all.

I'll check with my Sprint source and see if the instant rebates are here to stay.
[Hero CDMA General] Greefus:
Sprint let me upgrade early and get the Nexus S 4G for $199. Just had to email them and ask nicely.
[Hero CDMA General] rb3:
I've heard the same thing about the instant rebates. And know a few people who upgraded recently and they were all instant rebates.
[Hero CDMA General] Greefus:
For anyone else that wants to try to upgrade a few months early and get the full discount like me, I just basically plagiarized what this guy did here:

http://www.evo4gforum.net/htc-evo-4g-sprint-plansservices/annual-upgrades/msg75973/

I figure many of us are in that situation and can't upgrade until August since I got the Hero basically right when it came out in October 2009.
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
Ahaha I got the hero cause my epic 4g broke, got the epic in september and i get yaerly upgrades. gonna steal my sisters upgrade for this ahah
[Hero CDMA General] oohaylima:
Thanks for the info!! I just emailed them, so hopefully I'll be able to get that rebate for the new dual core coming out.
[Hero CDMA General] oohaylima:
Woohoo!! They told me I can get the 150. I love Sprint!!!!!
[Hero CDMA General] Greefus:
Sweet. You mean the Evo 3D/4G? Just wondering if there's anything else with a superfast chip coming out before that. I love HTC but those phones look gigantic and painful to put in my pocket.
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
It's because you need manly pockets to handle such a beast. You skinny jeans just won't cut it. :D

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[Hero CDMA General] oohaylima:
Yep. I'm gonna send another email to see if I can secure it for that phone.
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
+1 made me lol
[Hero CDMA General] il Duce:
I'm sure everybody knows best buy has been taking pre-orders for a couple weeks (that's how I ordered mine), now it looks like Sprint is taking pre-orders :)

http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/6854-sprint-htc-evo-3d-preorder
[Hero CDMA General] kyouko:
:(

EVO 3D Features Same Locked Bootloader as HTC Sensation

Confirmed: EVO 3D's Bootloader, Recovery, and Kernel Images All Locked Down
[Hero CDMA General] il Duce:
Yeah but they aren't "encrypted" so the super root dev's will crack it :)

EDIT: ruh roh.... Just read that link. Well, this means I need to decide if that beast needs root, cux the heroC sure as hell did. Man, now I wonder what the release date of a dual core non-locked phone on sprint will be?
[Hero CDMA General] killabee44:
Yeah, sad day.. Im trying to find out the same thing.

When will another dual core handset without an encrypted bootloader will be released on Sprint?
[Hero CDMA General] srb7215:
I'm wondering if the days of a non-encrypted bootloader are over. I wouldn't be surprised if only a couple (if any) keep the ability to root so easy.
[Hero CDMA General] stayclean:
They aren't over, don't worry.

Here's hoping a Thunderbolt situation happens. Or Sprint gets an LG.
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
Hopefully, they go back on their lock-down decision.
[Hero CDMA General] killabee44:
Post your disgust on their facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/HTC
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
Hatred has been posted. Hopefully they will recall it or give us some easy way to root/remove it.
[Hero CDMA General] ganjah:
Look at what happened to Sony. I doubt HTC wants anything like the cyber scrutiny that Sony is experiencing, yet they're similarly alienating their most savvy customers. And, for what?

This is a lose/lose long term for HTC. They'd better wake up fast.
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
Im betting that Sprint made them do it. Hopefully the carriers will come to their senses.
[Hero CDMA General] Riff76:
There is a sense rom for Nexus S, for anyone who will miss Sense and wants to follow through on their threat to HTC to buy from another manufacturer.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1034130

I think I will be going this route by the end of June if the 3D is still locked down by then

The rom is for GSM but CDMA is coming
[Hero CDMA General] killabee44:
Well, I feel that the main reason is the movie studios. Movie studios probably told the carriers that if they want any sort of movie streaming/renting on their phones, they better lock their roms down.

I mean, look at what Google did with their Google Movies deal. They blocked access to the program by rooted handsets.

Im sure the same kind of pressure is being applied to the carriers by the movie studios in order to be allowed to offer this feature on their phones. Then, the carriers pressure the manufacturers to lock the devices down.

Like a domino effect. That, plus the rate of returns because of bricked phones. Or maybe it's the ability to make NFC purchases? Who knows really.
[Hero CDMA General] killabee44:
Oh, and btw...

It looks like the Motorola Atrix is about to be unlocked by developers. No need to wait for Motorola to get off their asses.

This could be an option if HTC does not change their minds.

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/motorola-atrix-4g-bootloader-about-to-be-unlocked/
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
The difference between the movie deal and phones is that when you root a phone then you get free tethering, sommething carriers charge around 30$ a month for, also you are able to skip the updates which allow sprint to put more bull**** on your device
[Hero CDMA General] stayclean:
I am 99.5% most carriers do not tell manufacturers to lock down bootloaders/etc.
[Hero CDMA General] rizdog23:
Wanna talk about exciting?

Hey guys, i too have been sitting on my upgrade waiting for some magic. I thought i was gonna get the 3D then i decided ill wait for the Nexus 3.......ik it sounds stupid because it has not been officially announced, but it has been guarenteed by Google and will come out in the 4th quarter with 2.4 Ice Cream. It has a 720x1280 display, runs 4g, and will "as of right now" be powered by a Tegra 3 chip.....yeah the Quad Core one :). Who'w with me?
[Hero CDMA General] laie1472:
You have a link to that phones info???

Root/Hack-Mod-Always*
[Hero CDMA General] rizdog23:
Link (Sorta)

That was a mashup of multiple sources. Most of the info is from androidandme.com But if you just type Nexus 3 or Tegra 3 phone on google you will get all of that info. The fact that the phone will be released was confirmed at Google i/o but it is still unconfrimed how will make it. It is currently between LG (my preference) and Motorola. As of right now its not for sure who will make it or what all the specs will be, but hey just the thought of it is enough for me. I will look for my links and post back later because i posted that in school today.
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
In other news, HTC has now decided on un-locked bootloaders from now on. Hopefully this comes to the EVO3D. It was gonna be a deal breaker for me if it was locked down like that.
[Hero CDMA General] MrDowntown12:
Probably LG. I don't think Motorola has the balls to make a phone with those kind of specs. And even if they did, it would inevitably suck.

I'm all for LG nexus 3 as well. They've quietly been making their phone better and better. This would only solidify their rise over HTC and the rest of the manufactures.
[Hero CDMA General] killabee44:
Yep, it looks like they caved in to all the uproar. Great if it also applies to the evo3d..

They need to release those encryption keys. Otherwise, Im still looking for a replacement!
[Hero CDMA General] RVDigital:
It covers the EVO 3D, straight from the CEO!

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14186522&postcount=551
[Hero CDMA General] oohaylima:
Then it's official. I'm not buying the nexus. Evo 3D all the way.
[Hero CDMA General] killabee44:
NICE!!!

Straight from the source! Can't beat that with a bat!
[Hero CDMA General] xxxk15:
if i am going to sell me phone back to sprint, do i need to unroot it.. i am guessing yes, does anyone know a site to unroot it??
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
xda?

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[Hero CDMA General] stayclean:
So there's no real information on it at all, besides the fact it'll happen eventually is what I can gather.
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Please. As buddy buddy as Sprint and Google have gotten here lately, I would be surprised if Sprint wasn't the first to get it.

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[Hero CDMA General] term117:
Its going to be a touch choice between evo 3d and nexus s. I feel the 3d is going to be bloated and no battery life.
[Hero CDMA General] Riff76:
Now that the bootloader will be unlocked, someone from the CM team will pick it up. There will be other devs out there too who will make optimized versions of the stock rom.
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
That someone is toast, I believe. :)

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[Hero CDMA General] killabee44:
Yes it is... I mean, I might just buy this and then sell it on craigslist in December. Then use the money towards an off contract Nexus. That Nexus with the quadcore.. Niiice!

It all depends how much the Nexus will cost off contract...
[Hero CDMA General] Riff76:
Thats right User! Its been a long time since we lost him to the EVO forums, I had forgotten his name
[Hero CDMA General] jackzepplin:
Release Date on EVO 3D

I just saw a post on Android Police blog that a Radio Shack flyer lists the 3D to be available on June 24. Until then, I'm pocketing my drinkin' money.
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
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[Hero CDMA General] tutucea:
I can only upgrade in nov , cant waitto get me a nexus , .. i was dreaming about an iphone but , android is the way to go :)
[Hero CDMA General] :
User, you heading to 3D world? Hope to see ya ;)

-- Sent from my phone so typos are inevitable --
[Hero CDMA General] il Duce:
See you there :) looks like a sprint employee pulled a rom dump from a pre release one today, eng-spl and all :D the devs already have it. Rooted before release! W00T.

sent from a series of tubes.
[Hero CDMA General] killabee44:
That's great news!
[Hero CDMA General] unCoRrUpTeD:
Call the retentions department. Got my upgrade date switched to now. It was also in November. I think almost all those that have had the Hero's for a year or more that didn't get the Evo 4G are finally moving on and getting the Evo 3D. See all of you there.
[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
I know I am, I got an Evo today for free which I will use until I get the 3D :D the hero had a good run
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Indeed!

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[Hero CDMA General] fowenati:
Got my pre order today :D I'm excited!!!!! Im got an evo4g that ima use until u get the 3D
[EVO 4G General] red man:
hi guys i have a evo rooted with mikfroyo and a xoom stock. my wireless tether works fine when i tether to my girls iphone 3gs it works fine. but when i try with the xoom it says obtaining ip address. any help will be appreciated thank you
[EVO 4G General] EndlessDissent:
If it's obtaining an IP address, it should be connected. How long are you giving it to connect completely?
[EVO 4G General] pongoface:
Are you using vaelpak wireless tether app from chogardjr folder
[EVO 4G General] AndroidFileHost:
You can't tether to the xoom using adhoc. Change ur settings on tether app to do AP./infrastructure
[EVO 4G General] red man:
thank you fellas im using mikfroyo 4.5 and im using the google wireless tether app i will change settings and see thanks.
[EVO 4G General] red man:
after some time it stops and connects to my home network.
[EVO 4G General] red man:
how do i change it to infrastructure???
[EVO 4G General] herbthehammer:
In the wireless tether app from the market, there isn't a way to change between infrastructure and ad hoc. The evo is supposed to be one of the few phones that does infra. Maybe it is the rom? I dunno.
[EVO 4G General] david279:
Dont use the one in the market. Get the latest here....

http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list?can=2&q=Generic
[G2 and Desire Z General] corrado85:
Does anyone have an idea when Honeycomb 3.0 will be ported over to G2?
[G2 and Desire Z General] theebest:
Lol its been ported for a while now go to the development section
[G2 and Desire Z General] AZ2ENVY:
I wanna know when Cyanogen will make a Honeycomb ROM for us :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] martonikaj:
He probably will, but it won't be for phones, it'll be for tablets. Honeycomb is well known to not be made for phones.

OP it should also be noted that the current ports are almost entirely non-functioning, and really just a proof of concept at this point.
[G2 and Desire Z General] AZ2ENVY:
I thought it was already established it can be used on phones because

of all the different resolution folders in the system .
[G2 and Desire Z General] rp1783:
There is actually nothing saying HC won't work on phones. As far as it being merged into CM, that will happen if and when its dropped in AOSP, as Steve and the gang only build from source.
[G2 and Desire Z General] martonikaj:
No I know it

will

work on phones, but it wasn't

made

with phones in mind.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dhkr234:
Sure it was. The features being showcased in the video where this whole stupid rumor originated are the only things that were "for tablets only".
[G2 and Desire Z General] martonikaj:
Just saying that Google openly stated that 3.0 is for tablets, and 2.4 is the next iteration for phones that will incorporate features of Honeycomb back to the phone OS.
[G2 and Desire Z General] bongd:
lol this! ^^^

I think it'd be cool if there was a decent TV out option. Things may get a little cramped, but I'd give it a shot. Would be sweet to dual boot it because as a daily driver it wouldn't be as good as something like CM or Virtuous. :cool:
[G2 and Desire Z General] Zephead:
It was posted today on AndroidSPIN.com, just cool to look at the ui since nothing really works yet.

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Phone: T-Mobile HTC G2 (S-OFF)

OS: Android 2.3.2

ROM: Cyanogen Mod 7

Kernel: Pershoot 2.6.32.31 OC'd running at 1017Mhz

Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.0.5
[G2 and Desire Z General] infamousjax:
Honeycomb isn't as polished as gingerbread is internally, and it was developed to run on tablets. I wouldn't run it even if there was an official version for our phone. Google needs to tweak it some more before I'd say its ready for mainstream.
[Captivate General] sofia-captivate:
Hello everyone, just wana introduce myself. My name is Sofia and I love cellphones and new technology. I purchased captivate a month ago my first android phone. It's very fast and amazing. One of my friend told me about this site so I decided to join it. Lately my phone is been laggy and very slow. Can someone please help me and let me know what can I do to make it faster. Thank everyone
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
Start by reading through some of the stickies here and in the other Cappy subforums. Lots of good info. Searching before posting is also appreciated. Welcome.;)