yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xoom General] Sirchuk:
lol..where in Oregon are ya? I'm in the Portland area..

There seems to be a lot of issue with people choosing 2 day shipping and next day shipping and thinking that it means that their item will be shipped immediately and via that method. So, I wanted to see Motorola's stance on the topic, and ya know what I found? Nothing.

Going to Motorola's online store looks all fine and dandy, but if it didn't have the Motorola name / official site, I would never have purchased from them. Their online Terms of Service, it's blank. Their online Protection policies? They aren't just blank, they take you to a completely empty site.

It honestly looks like their online store is something that's relatively new and not very polished. Hell, I guess we figured that out by using an accessory coupon on an $800 tablet.

They do have terms of use for their main Motorola site, but not the store (which I think would be different, and include items like price mistakes, shipping policies, payment agreement, returns, etc.)

Most vendors tell you that they have one to three or four to five business days of processing time for an order, and once it's processed it will ship with your desired shipping speed. Other sites charge a fee for faster processing (like Newegg). Most get it out sooner rather than later, but have the policy to fall back on.

I just found it odd that Motorola didn't mention anything of the sort, maybe it's on the order entry screen just before purchase?
[Xoom General] justabrake:
thank you !
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] torture80:
Hello,

I have the IG0 8 v8.3.2.93112

Recently i realized that my map needs to be updated. I used it to drive me somewhere but it drove me through roads that have changed.

Can anyone tell me where to find the latest map for Greece and how to actually replace the old one with the latest one?

I have the map that the version above came with.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Chef_Tony:
here you go:

http://www.igomyway.com/map-updates-and-extras
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Mittaa:
Iceland

Hi

I use IGO 8.

Do anybody know if there exist any maps for Iceland?
[G2 and Desire Z General] bloodhawk:
Can anybody try this and check if it is making the home screen lag?

I have tried using it on Launcher pro Plus /ADW EX /Stock Gingerbread Launcher.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=975413

Also please mention what ROM/Launcher/kernel you are using.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Gwanatu:
So far no problems. Running it at 45fps using GingerMex FAST 1.0.1 (with Flippy's kernel) and Go Launcher EX.
[G2 and Desire Z General] bloodhawk:
Hmmm...ok let me try it on a similar Setup. From the looks of it. I think it is a CM7 related 2D driver issue.

Thanks a ton for he feedback.

Now if anyone would be kind enough to try it out on a Stock HTC Desire Z ROM / CM7 with Stock Kernel / CM6 / VIrtuos.

I wanna figure out if its just me who is facing issues. Have already tried CM7 with stock kernel and Virtuos.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ibemad1:
What's the problem you're having with it? Bad lag?

Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
[G2 and Desire Z General] bloodhawk:
Exactly... lag between homescreen transitions. Are you experiencing the same?
[G2 and Desire Z General] creativedevil:
The wallpaper itself seems to be slow, i haven't noticed any massive lag or screen issues though...
[G2 and Desire Z General] IharpI:
overall a lil bit slow on cm7, but the main problem is the bad looking of your graphics.
[G2 and Desire Z General] bloodhawk:
Yeap...its very slow on my opinion. Not the wallpaper itself but i makes the Homescreen go slow..dont know how else to out this.
[G2 and Desire Z General] bloodhawk:
The latest version is just amazing. Fixes almost every issue.

Check it out guys.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chillout23:
So...how to put Gingerbread on Desire with Froyo? I want to do it :)

My Desire is rooted, S-OFF and unlocked....what with that if I put Ginger on it? It will stay like that or i need to do it again?

Sorry, but really dont know all that...

Thanks
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noobandroid:
You cant put GB directly into the Desire, as update for the Desire GB is not ready yet, instead try GB port ROMS, like Oxygen or Ginger Villain

Here is the Desire Index, and go to links in Ginger Bread ROM section:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=809328
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chillout23:
Ok ;) Thank you for your answer :)

So, can you tell me, please, what about S-OFF, root and unlocking in case to put stock GB on my device (I found some ways how to put stock GB :))?

And if I loose all of that, can I make it again as on Froyo?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] appox:
S-Off information Here.

Root, unlock information Here

AdamG's DevNull rom is probably the closest thing to stock GB there is. To make it Froyo again you could Nandroid restore to your original Froyo rom, Flash on a froyo rom, or run an RUU and restore your device to an official Froyo build.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chillout23:
Thanks a lot :)

Know that ;) but thanks anyway :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zheiko:
Its weird, that you have managed to do S-OFF and ROOT(ok, its not difficult) and then not sure how to do reflash of new ROM?

Anyway, if you reflash, your ROOT and S-OFF will stay, so not to worry;)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chillout23:
Yeah...As you said was not difficult :) that was the reason i was doing that :)

I am new one with desire (3 weeks) but like to explore :D so don't know everything yet ;)

Thankks mate :) cheers
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zheiko:
So, if I can have some suggestion, if you want clean, fast and most importantly stable Gingerbread, go for REDUX, its so far the best GB ROM I have tried.

But if you want Sense(I understand, I love Sense as well and it took me a while to get used on Sense free roms) then I'd recommend ReflexTSense, which unfortunately, still is 2.2, but its great HD rom, very nice, designed for big screen and everything looks smaller on original Desire(and better)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chillout23:
Thanks for your suggestion :)

I'll try both ;) and then decide...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chillout23:
Yes. It's very fast and stable. I tried it...and it's perfect for me :)

So need to know how to put icons to dock...there's no option in settings...

anyone knows?
[Droid Pro General] andyoung:
I bought a unlock droid pro and work good in HK with EDGE data connection and GSM network. But when I go to china, sicne my sims card has another China number, it suppose to switch to use the china number. But now it is not auto switched to the china number and use the HK number in roaming mode and no EDGE data connection at all...

Anyone experience similarly like this? why and how to solve?

:confused:I am using Peoples/China mobile...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] microang:
MODERATOR EDIT: ROM

has been released. :D Thanks to imikla.

Just found this Desire HD ROM which was released today on their forum which has the latest Sense 2.1 running on Gingerbread! Hopefully a developer can take this and port it over to the HTC HD2! :D Plus since it's for the Desire HD hopefully our current camera libs will work to make the camera work! :)

HD GB: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=984822

Desire S GB: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=986444

Thanks in advance to any chefs who try this! Maybe having the two ROMs can aid developement! :D

Also if you found this post useful please click the thanks button. :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Staxxthedan:
Provide the link, and I will start on it right after download:D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] microang:
Added to the OP
[HD2 Android NAND Development] shree.cse:
I have that on my DesireHD, that's really fast and it has a better user interface.

Sent from my Desire HD
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Staxxthedan:
Thanks. Running Late tho, Will DL Tomorrow :D Hopefully the rosie is rotating, I hate non rotating Rosie desire roms:mad::D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Proz00:
http://www34.multiupload.com:81/fil...078B97DEFA2FFA42F33248314DCEEFA3EC/system.zip

system from ùí îéùðé [NIGHTLY] Android Revolution HD 4.0 beta 1 | Gingerbread & New Sense UI | Android 2.3 1 Attachment(s) (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] MeteorFlare:
cant wait cant wait cant waitttt!!

I wish for also a lite version of this rom with all the HTC extras taken out, so that it can fit my HD2 w/o the need for partitioning the sd card, as I'd love to switch out my sd's whenever !!

like what cmyxlgo did with the current D HD builds..

Removed Skins

Removed HTC Widgets

Removed Facebook

Removed Twitter

Removed Fandango

Removed Wallpapers

Removed LED me Know

Removed GPS Status App

Removed T-Mobile Visual Voicemail

Removed T-Mobile MyAccount

Removed Solitaire

Removed Shutdown Animation

Removed Search Anywhere

Removed Sound Recorder

Removed Live Wallpapers

Removed Flash

Removed FM Radio and Widget

Removed Stocks and Widget

Removed Ringtone Trimmer

Removed Soundhound Freemium

Removed Google Talk

Removed Google Maps

thank you so much!!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] rafpigna:
I'm already at work on this from the last night. Hopefully a working port soon.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dungphp:
I think "very difficult" but want more try...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] The BLION Corp.:
Yeah... You gave me one reason to wait some days more before flashing my phone once again !
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Thomas Cardif:
I can not wait

and look forward
[HD2 Android NAND Development] rasumia:
Very much Happy to hear from you! now no need to worry just wait for your New ROM. hopefully very soon or may be tonight??? hehe always got very high expectation from you :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] rafpigna:
No please I cannot give any eta. Could be tonight could be 1 week. Dunno.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zat0x:
Thats great news rafpigna! Take your time :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Richy99:
fantastic ...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] riaan0010:
Agree. Very exciting though
[HD2 Android NAND Development] stirkac:
woohoo :) something to hope for after a long time(dhd are all pretty much the same, devs used all tricks to make it faster)

..after testing imilka's incredible build, this seems to be the winner(FAST, feature-packed, sense :))

do your magic rafpigna :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dungphp:
Some devs check this logcat !

Need somethings ?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] rasumia:
Please don't take it serious. take it as a joke. i dont want to push you please relax and do this for us in cool mind. i know how hard to compile etc... used to be hot headed doing coding in assemble and VB overnight for project ;) we wish you the best!:cool:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bcostea:
Go Raf... Already using your build v4.0 and love it.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] nohandle:
waiting for this since imilka's Incredible S build was released and i've found out it does not have the "new sense". hope you will get it ported soon :)

good luck!!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Azerox:
Glad to hear that you are working on it.

Still having the MDJ 2.3.2 ROM, runs good, but i want to try something new.

Other ROMs not rly appealing to me, but this certainly is :cool:

Keep up the good work devs! :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Proz00:
Curious_ & imilka trying to port it too

but the gfx driver make lags curious thinking to wait for desire leak build

its booting with same init and wifi working too
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jetsetwilly:
Raf, I remember not so long ago you dipped your toe in ROM building and confessed you were just having a crack at it, almost out of curiosity. I'm blown away by the impact you've made on roms, kernels and everything else. I don't mean to make threads extra long by heaping on loads of thanks but, hell, thanks anyway. :)

It's heartening to see your involvement on this - whether you make it possible or not (no pressure :o)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Elmo108:
i second that
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dailomac:
so excited for this rom.. i hope its ported asap.. thank you raf for working on it.. lets go..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] penosled:
Raf I'm glad you are workin on it. Will beta test if needed
[HD2 Android NAND Development] JDM Civic EG8:
This is going to be sick!!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kevinniven:
awsome

Cant wait :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Tribulattifather:
Lets hope the phone aspect doesn't sound like a robot ^>^

*Crosses fingers*
[HD2 Android NAND Development] panides:
Excellent news!!

Cant wait!!!

:D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Alvaro Recoba:
Happy news :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] leoaudio13:
WOW WOW news!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dailomac:
imilka.. where are u on this??? i thought u would be the first one to port this over.. cmon..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dungphp:
Waiting Robocik first !
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dailomac:
lets go robocik.. port this ****!! w00t w00t...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] DaNnY549:
GOOD, interesting .
[HD2 Android NAND Development] TheGeorgiaSwagger:
Very exciting. Sounds like a real winner. Hopefully ported soon.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] yesucan:
Great news :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ddeathmetal:
Hold my breath til someone ported successful to HD2....... waitttttttttttttttttttttttingggggggggggggggggggggggg :((
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Azerox:
Soo hoping this will be come a good quality ROM.

Very exited :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mylove299:
Since GB + sen Hope the camera work and the 60mA drain when Bt is turned on will gone away. Great news. Come on our devs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mccmjoon76:
Will look into this ... :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arifqur:
+1 on the 60mA drain.

Finally maybe a solution
[HD2 Android NAND Development] imilka:
No, camera won't work. At least until someone will rewrite libraries.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Clom801:
Hmmmm... maybe a mod can post another bounty. Btw glad to see you working on this Imilka!! I'm loving your RAM desire HD. :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] seaman2k:
no don't say that...say i try and i can do it ..i trust that u can imilka :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Krendelrus:
Good news! Paul @ MoDaCo uploaded test ROM from HTC Desire S (Saga) - Android 2.3.2 with latest Sense :) boot.img included

link (thread at modaco) - http://t.co/j7XhbP8
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pack21:
Great, because I want to use this port quickly. Tonight if don't care.

Thanks....

eheheh ;D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] cmylxgo:
I've dumped both of these roms...the one thing I find interesting is that they are already DeOdexed...not what I expected from a somewhat offical HTC full rom.

-CMYLXGO
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dailomac:
cmon cmylxgo.. please port this ****.. i love ur roms dude..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] cmylxgo:
I'm working on it...didn't I just say I dumped it??? Camera doesn't work...so until that gets fixed not going to release anything.

-CMY
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Skellyyy:
Please? Release an alpha even and just state the camera doesn't work. Us who don't use the camera want it. :(
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dharvey4651:
Guys please stop begging... It will be released in due time... When it's stable.

​
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Proz00:
+1

maybe then we could help with find bugs help the progress of the porting
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Dormantlemon:
Maybe, but you should leave the dev's be. The dev's do so much work here for little or no return. Expect them to release whatever they like when they like, rather than people asking them for a bunch of alpha's and then complaining that its all buggy. I for one will wait for as long as is necessary rather than pushing developers to release early. I would expect that they would ask for testers if they were needed.

Anyway back to topic, good to see gingerbread sense finally around, ill test it on a mates desire when i can.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Skellyyy:
Well it would be an alpha. I know it wouldn't be the smoothest of ROM's but it's only for 'testing purposes'. :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Proz00:
those that complaining always will

we just wanna be beta testers
[HD2 Android NAND Development] crisisinthecity:
Can't wait.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dailomac:
sorry bro.. i just wanted to help be a tester.. i wasnt tryna rush u.. just very excited..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yom:
Is the BT drain corrected on this ROM?

If so, can the drivers be ported to the HD2, and integrated into already existing ROMs?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dailomac:
get hyped for this rom..

Sent from my Android Powered HD2
[HD2 Android NAND Development] karendar:
Sense Gingerbread... Finally. Can't wait. :) But I'll stick with Hyperdroid in the meantime!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arifqur:
Exactly my sentiments.

If Bluetooth drain in standby is fixed in this GB Rom, we may be able to use the BT drivers from this GB rom.

Great possibilities.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] NoMercyWWE:
I for myself dont care if the cam is working or not as long as the basic functions are working properly - maybe you could be so kind and put a dev rom out there so we can at least enjoy a preview of what it is to come!

Thanks in advance!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Fire217:
Nice post :)

Thanks
[HD2 Android NAND Development] MeteorFlare:
I, for one, also support this notion.

I've been living with erratic GPS conditions since I moved to Android, what's a unusable camera for now, while I can enjoy GB Sense..

Please do put out a rom w/o the camera function for us eager beavers who couldn't care less for a ROM w/o the camera function!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] cobhc:
Guys, the dev's don't wanna release something that's not working fully, please respect that and leave them alone.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] KrewsialNL:
I can only agree with this.

Not to sound harsh or *****y towards people that are asking, because I understand that somewhere too.

Let the Devs to their thing, without us forcing them to quickly release something that is 'half baked', as that will most likely cause chaos in people starting downloading and flashing something without reading one single line in a topic. Only causing them to ask questions, that should not be asked in the first place.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sandymac:
Why not try Coredroid ROM as I've never experienced high drain with bluetooth in standby. ;)

Patience is a virtue! :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] the1gladiator:
i'm gonna play devils advocate and ask why did you just say this? They release Roms on a regular basis with less than full functionality. The camera libs have been an issue since I first put Sense on my Mytouch 3G 18 months ago.

i'm not saying its anyones "fault" but since devs have released less than fully functional ROMS in the past with something this great what really makes you think the now spoiled public won't ask?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ClydeB1:
If I'm not mistaken I think the Bluetooth battery drain issue mentioned here is related to Gingerbread roms not the Froyo builds like CoreDroid.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arifqur:
Is Coredroid Rom GingerBread/AOSP/CM7 or Sense?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] cobhc:
Mainly because of cmxlxgo's post where he explicitly said he wasn't going to release anything until the camera is working, yet people are still begging him to do so. It's childish, I mean I would love to check this rom out as much as the next guy, but I respect that the dev's will release what they want to, when they want to, and not just because they have someone on a forum bugging them.

And I agree with KrewsiaINL's post, as a lot of people will download a half baked release, and ***** about things not working without even reading that those are known problems.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ClydeB1:
It's a Desire HD Sense rom
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Tribulattifather:
It's a double edge sword:

If a dev released a half baked ROM then users will complain about what doesn't work.

If a dev doesn't release the ROM until it's finished then users will complain about it being available.

Please see through a dev's eyes. How would you feel if people complained no matter what..

So lets take a deep breath; the devs will release when ready to.

And be sure to thank those devs later on ;1
[HD2 Android NAND Development] rafpigna:
We lack proper sense/gingebread libraries for hd2

this is the main issue.

without those libraries we will never have a stable and fully working "port", anyone will lack some functionalities
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arifqur:
I thought as much.

Its a known fact that AOSP/CM7/GingerBread Rom's all have the Bluetooth high battery drain in standby issue.

Since I use BT head Set during the day I need a Rom which would support this.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] matthieup:
Maybe I'm stupid, but is it easier if you drop Sense? What does Sense bring us that cannot be done by 3rd party software?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ClydeB1:
Hey bud how you doing?

I think the point of discussion here is that many people like the Sense roms and although there are already non Sense GB roms which can be used, many ppl have been waiting for a Sense version. Now that one is finally available there is a lot of interest to try it out.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] matthieup:
hey CLyde, howzit?

I understand that. I'm just basically asking what extra sense brings (I have tried both sense and non sense roms and apart for the widgets and htc sync I'm not 100% sure about the difference). The sense integration was definitely more obvious on WM (2 months in and I still try to learn about android...)

Also why is it not possible then to use the camera lib from non sense ROM?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ClydeB1:
Gr8 and you? Hows the Mother City today :D. Getting ready for the hordes of Gautengers descending for the Argus weekend LOL?

There probably isn't much that Sense does that the 3rd party apps can't do as you point out, but as said there are many that just prefer the overall Sense look and feel and I'm one of those that just like the "balance" that the Sense roms have - maybe the one lingering tie back to wm6.5, who knows :D but it just comes down to personal preference I guess.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] trilu:
Maybe i can clarify the thing with the bluetooth battery drain.

Sense roms uses a binary /bin/btld which does all the bt low power, standby, wakeup, etc... The kernel for this config needs only a very basic interface to the bt chip.

AOSP or Stock or Gingerbread or Froyo uses for initialising the bt chip a binary /bin/brcm_patchram_plus but this binary provides only the firmware to the bt chip. all the low power, standby, wakeup, etc. must be done by the kernel.

All Kernel for HD2 i have seen, are missing the enhanced bt functionality. So a port with sense and gingerbread will definitly fix the bt power drain issue.

But brings all the overhead from Sense to a Gingerbread Rom.

In my opinion it would be much better if we have a kernel with all the bt functionality implemented. Charansingh has started to port the missing parts to a HD2 Kernel, but at the moment he is busy due to his exams. Maybe we can find some more kernel developers who are willing to fix the bt problem :-)

Kernel sources from charansing are here

https://github.com/charansingh/raiderx_htcleo

The main changes for BT are in this file

https://github.com/charansingh/raiderx_htcleo/blob/master/arch/arm/mach-msm/board-htcleo.c
[HD2 Android NAND Development] matthieup:
@Clyde : good thanks. getting ready to lock myself at home on sunday

:)

and hopefully Sense will fix bluetooth for GB...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] crisisinthecity:
This shouldn't be a Sense discussion thread, but I prefer Sense because of it's ability to link my contacts and the widgets are nicey nice. It's really just a matter of personal opinion though. If you like Sense, then you prefer it. If you don't care about the fancy eye candy or linking contacts then you probably don't want it.