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[Focus General] bennyj71:
Fiction

I'm so disappionted with this whole situation. I hope I'm wrong but you have to look at the obvious. First update on Feb.21, no one got. Then MS said they pulled it for Samsung issues, but then they said they didn't pull it. Day later, MS says they pulled it for Samsung. Cool, no other ATT phone got the update! People asked if ATT was blocking the update, MS said no of course not. Meanwhile, MS issues a statement how 90% of phones got the update. Taking a look on the message boards, shows no one on a US carrier got an update. Since the US makes up about 60% of their phones sales, something is up. Fast forward a week, we have more denials of the update being blocked. Now yesterday, like a kid caught in the cookie jar, we hear that ATT did block it but we really get it this time. Really? Really indeed. Considering this is probably the only update we will ever get, this is disappointing.
[Focus General] phoneguy 4567:
I think both are true. When MS got reports of problems they stopped the updates. Now that Omnia 7 & Focus owners outside the US are reporting getting the update I think it's all AT&T causing the delay. I got the original update the first day it was out on Rogers.
[Focus General] markgamber:
Agreed all around. I gave up on WM years ago because of the appalling update "cycle" imposed on users by Microsoft and carriers. IF you got an update for your expensive device at all, it usually caused more problems than it solved and was so loaded down by carrier garbage that, more often than not, I'd end up either using a custom system or rolling back to the original. I bought a Focus SOLELY because Microsoft claimed this time would be different. This time updates would be timely and relevant and carriers wouldn't be able to block them simply because they want to sell you another phone and blah blah blah. Well you can sure throw the "timely" bit out the window. According to Microsoft's timetable, the first real feature update will be released Q3 of 2011. That means the carriers will get it Q3 of 2011, not you and I, and that's so far away that it really means that Microsoft has no idea when it'll be ready. It also means that my Focus will be at least a year old by the time the first feature update arrives. I would bet a paycheck that it won't be eligable for the update, too. Why?

Because Microsoft and the carriers have done this before, several times, and it looks like they have every intention of doing it again.

I bought the Focus the day they went on sale. It had a sim card in it for two weeks before I couldn't take it's overwhelming lack of features and stuck it in another phone. I haven't even turned it on in almost a month. Given the constant backpedalling and outright bull**** being put out by Microsoft lately, I think monday is when I finally cut my losses, throw the thing in the trash and be done with it. Enough is enough. I will never again buy a Microsoft mobile device.
[Focus General] Tim.Smith:
Looks like I clicked on the wrong link, I appeared to have accidentally stumbled upon the whiny *****es club.
[Focus General] JamesAllen:
Thanks

Thanks, I needed that, it made me smile and I haven't smiled much through this entire fiasco. Am I frustrated, sure. I have a battery icon that flashes and beeps every second and won't allow the screen to shut down. ATT tells me it will be fixed in the update. So I wait and probably have more reason than most to want the update. But, if ATT held this up because of the problems experienced by their Focus owners, then Thank you ATT.
[Focus General] Tim.Smith:
Damn that sucks dude. You have a legit reason to complain. Hope you get this update soon and get that **** sorted out. One of the downsides we'll experience jumping on a new platform from the beginning.
[Focus General] JamesAllen:
Bleeding Edge

I have developed and launched Customer Service for bleeding edge products and services for almost 40 years. I know what to expect and do my homework. I like this phone and OS and will put up with a lot of things to get where it could go. But, in my mind, MS needs to step it up a bit and more importantly, take the influence of the carriers out of the update process and deal with us directly as customers.
[Focus General] Michael-Dallas:
I think that is easier said than done. AT&T has the cards and the leverage over the OEM and OS. Unless you're Steve Jobs/Apple. Then you've got the leverage over AT&T.

Honestly, I would gladly pay $500 for an unbranded Samsung Focus so I won't be at AT&T's mercy. Unfortunately, AT&T probably forced Samsung to give them a year-long exclusitivity agreement for the U.S.

You wouldn't believe the BS requirements that AT&T has for some of these phones...

Me, personally, I'm in no dire need for the update so I'm not at all concerned about when it gets released as much as I am knowing that there will be one. It would certainly tick me off if AT&T blocks future updates and would definitely encourage me to go back to unbranded phones.

Michael.
[Focus General] cbebop7:
dude that sounds like a serious issue, why didnt you just ask ATT for a replacement instead of hoping for an update to fix it?

PS. 3/7/2011 12.55PM EST and still no update for my Focus:)
[Focus General] JamesAllen:
Warranty

I did my troubleshooting thing with Samsung, then went to the warranty support group at ATT where they confirmed it was a known MS issue, they were addressing it in the next update, many Focus owners have it. I agreed to wait, see if the update fixes it, if not, return it under warranty.

BTW, there is a video on YouTube of someone with exactly the same symptoms, but his Focus ended up with a melted mini uSB cable connector and a melted mini USB port. The images are startling and the symptoms leading up to the meltdown were exactly like mine.
[Focus General] Xebec:
Fiction. Microsoft is making a "big" announcment on 3-15. I don't see it being released before then.
[Focus General] LS1Jabroni:
Like you Mike, I've given up. If it comes out great, but I'm not expecting it any more.

What will be funny is when this update finally does get released, no sooner than 10 years down the road(sarcasm), and it doesn't even meet the requirements of what most people are expecting. :D
[Focus General] ktdan1:
LOL, so true so true, maybe I am just lucky, my phone actually works, I only 24gig of ram and not the 40 I want but hey, its a start. My only real complaint is not being able to connect to hidden networks and PCAny has not release a app for it yet.

On the update side, if it gets real bad, we can go old school, go back to flashing devices. I don't care what OS you have, there will be issues and slow and in some cases no turn around for fixes.
[Focus General] chrislynch:
There are plenty of issues with the Samsung Focus and WP7 in general, ranging from charing the battery, the battery icon flashing after removing the MicroUSB cable, audio problems with the headset and Bluetooth, SSSLLLLOOOOWWWW performance after exiting an app, etc. just to name a few.

I am trying to keep an open mind about this whole update process. While MS hasn't come out saying that carriers have or have not blocked any update, there are plenty of controdictions being made from MS sources. Some have said that the NoDo update has been done since Dec, yet WP7 needed a "minor update to make sure future updates go more smoothly" and that 90% of phones have recieved the update. Well, I have 3 Samsung Focus phones, none of which has recieved any update thus far. THere are plenty who have said that no one on AT&T has recieved the update, yet Rogers, Orange, etc. users have recieved the update. Carriers are blocking the update in some fashion, and this is what I was affraid of when MS announced this policy. Hell, doesn't anyone remember when Microsoft said that any carrier included software must be NON-Trial, Free, must be run without Internet connectivity, yet none of that is true with AT&T phones???

I want this platform to succeed, yet the first two updates thus far have recieved SSOO much attention, and under such a microscope that MS cannot move at the speed they want to without losing customers. Yeah, you can make all of the comments about how Apple and Google went through the same things, MS needed to learn from their mistakes and how to not make them. It seems that MS is no History Major.
[Focus General] Andrew725:
That's funny, I don't have a single one of these issues. Not a single one.

Guess I lucked out then :rolleyes:
[Focus General] bennyj71:
The only thing I remember MS saying about this was that all bloatware would uninstallable. I have never heard of the other things you mentioned
[Focus General] TOA Duck:
Hahaha, me neither, add me to the lucky list.

My focus runs as smooth as the day I picked it up. This update drama is entertaining though.
[Focus General] markgamber:
Yep, your mistake. We'll call if we need your opinion on anything important. See ya.
[Focus General] gmfeld:
None of those problems for me and my Focus either, with the exception of the bluetooth connection in my car being lousy. All in all, I love the Focus. Following the update drama, but not letting it get to me.
[Focus General] DaFlake:
I'm new here and just got my Focus coming from an iPhone. So far I really like the OS, but there are a few quirks that need to be sorted. I get some lockups when I am in the Market but other than that it runs pretty well.
[Focus General] asiancuta:
known issue Microsoft is aware of.

despite all these gripes, the Focus is a great phone. wouldn't go back to Android if Google paid me.
[Focus General] DaFlake:
Good to know that it is known.... :) I am a windows programmer so I am looking forward to getting to know the phone better. So far I really like it! :)
[Focus General] Michael-Dallas:
Same reason why I got one. If you know C# and WPF, then you're good to go. Check out Scott Guthrie's blog on how to get started in developing WP7 apps, pretty flipping easy.

Michael.
[Focus General] DaFlake:
I'll take a look, thanks!

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[Liquid S100 Android Development] barbatecla:
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[Nook Color General] K41N2358:
Ill make this quick.

Ive been messing with HC and CM7 the past few days, but before I did any of that

I used SD CWR to make a backup on my rooted copy of Nook Stock with the way I had it setup and configured, I thought it was a good idea.

The only problem I seem to be running into now is that when it boots back up, I get to the original N boot screen and can't seem to get it past that.

I can still wipe and put back on CM7 or HC at will, but I really want to get this backup copy running again because I have a decent chunk of magazine subscriptions now that I do want to keep using.

Any ideas from anyone on how to get past this?

I do know that in CWR, as per the HC setup instruc, /system and /data are not mounted. Should I wipe again, mount them, and then try redoing my Restore again?

Thanks~
[XPERIA X8 General] vadexlux:
Hi,

I have Maps 4.4.0 (that came with 2.1), it does not get updated. But if I go to Aptoide it says I can update it to 5.1.0

Can anyone explain why? If Maps 5.1 is available why does it not get updated normally? Is maybe 5.1 not supported in our x8 or something?

thanks
[XPERIA X8 General] revenge50:
Try this Google Maps 5.2

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=533150&d=1299214097
[XPERIA X8 General] andoridkiller:
thanks it hekped
[XPERIA X8 General] revenge50:
there is a thanks button for it
[XPERIA X8 General] kaupov:
I also didn't find Google Maps from the Android Market with my phone but I did find it from Market with PC. So I just clicked the install button there and guess what, the Google Maps installed to my phone perfectly :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] reksp13:
I am rooted and it has been confirmed with "Root Checker. I was trying to remove some bloatware using Root Explorer and every time I try to delete a .apk I get a message that says " Warning AmazonMp3.apk cannot be deleted because the file system is read-only." I was also trying to add and delete some ringtones in the /system/media folder and I get similar message stating "read-only" Does anyone else have this problem.

Thank you all in advance
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] TheShadowMan:
look at the top of the screen in that directory and hit the R/W button
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] reksp13:
Thank you so much! How dumb am I. Please dont respond to that.lol
[Legend General] totob333:
i have a problem.

i've updated my clockworkmod to 3.0.0.8 but ithink it's not working correctly.

also, i'm in bootloop right now so i can't flash a rom, which means i'm screwed.

i wan't to downgrade to an older clockworkmod that might help me flash way out of this sticky situation but i have no idea how to install now clockworkmod 2.5

any help please?

i'm s-off btw.
[Legend General] dangal:
just do this

adb reboot bootloader

fastboot flash recovery CWM2-Legend.img

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3382637/CWM2-Legend.img
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inferis:
I bought my X10 same day it was released in Sweden. (I think it was 31th march last year)

Have upgraded my phone with Free X10 beta 3 and are still using that.

Vignette and other apps does not take as good pictures as stock SE ROM does, but I refuse going back to SE 2.1 again.

Then I became really excited when I noticed that Trip will try to port a ROM from X10 Arc, but now it seems like that is a progress that won't be really finished (I mean working with X10, camera and camcorder).

I think its about time to abandon my X10 now.

My question is, which phone should I buy?

I want a real good camera (and a camcorder that records in HD)

I want speed.

I want good screen behaviour like iPhone. (x10 screen isnt the best IMO)

I want a big screen. (no tablet size)

I want Android 2.3

If I should stay with my X10 for a while, is there a "monster-phone" upcoming? Brand doesnt matter for me now, so long its Android OS.

NO:

iPhone

Arc (Don't think the screen is as good as iphones)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] im_iceman:
Well theres a lot of phones coming out now..I'd wait and see what reaction they all get before jumping..
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MJ_QaT:
Arc has the better camera ( speed and quality ) till nic, with Exmor R sensors to record low light conditions... Other than that Galaxy S II can record 1080p videos, but will be poor in low light conditions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=7RdNfff_-0g
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inferis:
Where can I see wich one are coming? Which seems to be best?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inferis:
X10 pro is better than Arc I think? So Arc is a no.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] im_iceman:
No it's not.. Arc and neo are essentially the same.. And both very good.. There is no such phone as x10 pro! search for mobile world congress.. You'll see all the up coming phones.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inferis:
This must be a better phone than Arc or Neo?

http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/xperia-pro?cc=se&lc=sv#view=overview
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MJ_QaT:
Same specs with extra hardware keyboard if you're into that
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inferis:
Well, is there a non-SE upcoming that is very interesting?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiscidtox:
Lol these threads always turn out the same... I would start away from se stuff personally as dual core phones are going to be the next big wave. Buy something more future proof..

Atrix has a good camera, gets quadrant scores of 2400-2800 right out if the box, and has dual core so will be keeping with the times much more than the new sonys...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inferis:
Atrix looks really good! But is Motorola available in Sweden at all?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiscidtox:
I'm not sure! I'll be really jealous if it is, it's not yet in canada :( lol
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inferis:
Is there something similar? Or is Galalxy II the best available?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiscidtox:
galaxy 2 is the best otherwise right now anyway...

You definitely want something with a tegra 2 processor
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] im_iceman:
the whole dual core thing has been debated a lot, and not everyone thinks that it's the way to go just yet... it's new and android 2.3 doesn't fully support it... I'm undecided and would rather wait to see the real world reports before deciding if it's a good thing or not..
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiscidtox:
motorola's custom skin is built around it from what I've read, they get quadrant scores of 2400-2800 with absolutely no customizations..

I'm not even talking just about dual core, but also the graphics performance of tegra 2. There are going to be many awesome games coming out (and many out already) than can only run on the t2 chip..
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MJ_QaT:
Quadrant scores mean nothing, they are simply just numbers based on some hardware and software tests. My galaxy tab's score is twice higher than my X10's, yet it lags and too many force-closes, even though flashed it many times and have the latest update. In other words my X10 is a lot smoother

My point is you can't just compare two devices based on those scores, your argument is not strong enough. Have you tried the Atrix? Arc? if you did then you can say which is better, if not, you can't state your opinion as a fact ;)

By the way Atrix will have a bootloader locked similar to the X10's, could be crackable but we have to wait and see the developers here and what they can do... Link

But I have to say, Atrix and Galaxy S II have better hardware specs than the Arc. But in the end you have to go with what suits your needs, dual-core? then don't go with SE. LG Optimus 3D might interest you, with 3D camera and glasses-free 3D parallax barrier screen technology.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiscidtox:
I never said anything about performance, though reviews of the atrix are overwhelmingly positive...

I talked about future proofing.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] im_iceman:
processor technology moves too quick for ANYTHING to be future proofed.. all I really need in a phone is one which runs smoothly doing the things I want it to do, and is stable... that's why i'd rather wait and see how the latest batch perform in real world before I decide for myself which is best for my needs. One of which is Aesthetics - so SE gets my vote for that point.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inferis:
Of course I am serious. It was better quality with stock ROM.

But thats also the only good thing with stock ROM.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bwyan Benton:
If you can get your hands on 2 X10's (it will make things alot easier) do some tests between SE stock rom camera and either FreeX10 Beta4 or Wolfbreaks CM V4.1 rom camera.

You will see that both FreeX10 Beta 4 and Wolfbreaks CM V4.1 roms take better quality pics than SE stock camera.

My wife has an X10 as do I...so testing was easy...she has SE stock and I used Wolfbreaks 2.2 rom

and I mean multiple tests after multiple tests wolfbreaks rom was easily superior quality.

;)

Can't compare to the Arc tho I bet.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] isthisreallife:
galaxy 2,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HYPER-X10:
Maybe on the tech blogs, but not from the people who actually bought one. Lots of unhappy customers on the atrix forums.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bwyan Benton:
I sure as hell wasn't impressed with it waching videos. I mean I haven't touched in real life....but I don't care to. And I don't even wanna hear the crap about "oh well it does like 2400 in quadrant". That Sh*t doesn't matter.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inferis:
Sure! I'll do a test with several phones.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inferis:
Lets se if this works.

The white one is stock ROM.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inferis:
The two black ones have custom ROMs.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiscidtox:
Lol on the atrix forums reviews are about 90% positive too..

There are many unhappy people on these forums too, what is your point?

Watch a video of one or try a demo, it is insanely fast...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inferis:
Well, what do you all think about pictures taken with stock or custom ROM?

I will say stock is better, look at attached pictures above.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiscidtox:
the first one with the two black looks the best imo...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inferis:
Thats taken with the X10 having stock ROM.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bwyan Benton:
I dont know how you managed to get such blurred photos in the ones with the white phones...intentional??

Because I have been seriously doing WEEKS of testing different camera apps against each other...and the stock camera was NOT better quality than vignette or the beta 4 camera app.

Sure, in some shots it came out better....maybe do to some hand shake and stuff....but in about 95% of the pictures I have tested stock se failed to produce better quality.

Washed out colors, not properly focusing makes in inferior to Vignette and the camera found on beta 4 of freex10.

Im not joking my friend, weeks of testing, my recycle bin on my computer was flooded with retarded pictures of random crap.

My results stand and many people would agree on the stock se camera to much compression/noise reduction = low quality/blurred pictures

But, you have your mind made up and I cant change that. My tests weren't based on a few random shots here and there...my results were based on weeks of tests...low light, great light, macro, auto focus, white balance, metering modes.

ps. maybe we should get back on topic tho lol....this wasn't supposed to be a "best camera" thread haha

whoops
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiscidtox:
I agree with you though Patchy patch, I find the 2.2 cam I've been using is as good (if not better) than stock...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bwyan Benton:
Dude, I was friggen shocked at the quality when I first flashed freex10...im all about cameras...I have a couple dslrs now as well. I love photography, and I have alot of knowledge with it. So, a good camera on my phone is important to me. When I first flashed 2.2 I was scared the camera would suck...but man it has kicked ass.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inferis:
Mr Patchy Patch :

No, it was not intentional. I asked the owner to take all pics with all three X10. I told her to use hardware button on all phones to. And to be as steady as possible when she shoot the pictures.

She has no idea what a ROM is so I think this test was really fair.

But if you have been seriously doing that for weeks, maybe you can show some pics?

All my pics after custom ROM is not as good quality as stock ROM.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bwyan Benton:
Ok, fair enough.

I will do more comparisions and pm you when done. Im gonna compare beta 4 camera to se stock.

When i do these tests i try to be as fair as possible, i dont purposely try to make se stock cam look bad....because in the end im doing these tests for myself so when i shoot a picture i know im using the best camera app availble to me...whether its beta 4, se stock, vignette, camera 360, etc etc.

When doing comparisions and say i take a picture with the beta 4 camera, then i grab the other phone to shoot the same pic with the se stock cam....well if i feel i might of had a bit to much hand shake while snapping, ill redo the shoot just to make sure i get it fair and steady.

Im at work all day today, but tonight ill get some tests done for you.