[myTouch 4G Android Development] ckisgen:
I think to some degree everyone in this micro debate has a point on some level. But I feel like some of the statements are a bit off base. First off, I don't know of ANY ROM for android of the current era that started from 'scratch' or reinvented any wheels. Its basically the whole premise of android to begin with (what sets it aside from apple and the others) .. its OPEN SOURCE. its a base code that EVERYONE starts out with and then makes some modifications some for the better some for worse. every ROM around basically started as a port or from a dump of some kind...so what? does that mean someone working on it and finding performance optimizations and stability enhancements specific to a certain device means they shouldn't be allowed to claim 'development' of said ROM? I sure don't think so. hell, I think you could argue that even Samsung and HTC didn't even 'invent' these ROMs that get ported 20 times over...even they started with androids SDK and then added their own code to it. (hello HTC Sense?? just Google's stock android with some Widgets and ui changes added in)

look, don't get me wrong - there are multiple SEPARATE points that different ones of you have brought up...is a the mod from the OP a 'rip off' of jaywans nexus S port? I would say no, I'm sure we just about all agree there. just like jaywan said in his latest post, the point of all of this is OPEN SOURCE ..we share all this stuff and work together to help eachother have the coolest devices around.

I also obviously agree with giving credit where its due when you have started with someone else's work (as the OP did).

however when it starts getting implied that jaywan and or Team Royal just 'rip off' other peoples work and don't actually 'make' anything is WAY off base in my view. everyone starts with something else and then adds and modifies it from there...and for what its worth - jaywans nexus S port and now RoyalGinger is the fastest, smoothest, most stable ROM I've ever flashed on this device. by a long shot. again just my personal experience. but now that I've been testing for Team Royal and thru just about daily interaction with RoyalKnight - I've really come to see just how much work and effort RoyalKnight, Jaywan, all the other devs and even testers (to a much lesser degree) put in to trying to make these ROMs the best it can be .. all so that you guys (US, me, you) have the best user experience out there.

just wanted to make the point that jaywan, team royal, any dev are not any more or less of a developer or less 'credible' just because you can identify this or that part of the ROM that was someone else's work. (where do you think cm7 came from? iced glacier? evils desire roms? gorillas DHD? and again..even HTC sense or Acers Liquid Metal...if these guys stole from HTC, Samsung, and Acer - then in virtually exactly the same way - HTC, Samsung and Acer stole from Google from the Android SDK...none of it is stealing or unoriginal because its SUPPOSED to be this way!

sorry for the rant and again I just felt like throwing my $0.02 in when I started seeing these statements (whether they were intended to make this point or not) that I tried to address above....and no, I don't personally think because jaywan did what he did on his nexus S port means that he had the 'right' to come in and point fingers at the OP because his mod he uploaded (and gave proper credit for) makes your device quite similar to his port/ROM. to his credit he's already come out and admitted he was wrong on that. we all make mistakes.

props to the OP for sharing and sharing correctly and props to all the devs out there ESPECIALLY Team Royal since they are currently working harder than anyone else out there to bring us all a variety of solid stable ROMs to pick from and are very actively supporting those with updates and new releases.

cheers to all...especially blackSHELF, he's my thread buddy on several of these development threads.