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[Atrix 4G General] dwd3885:
I think both devices are extremely good. If you want to live in the iTunes ecosystem, then the iPhone is the way to go. However, I have not a single dropped call with my Atrix in St. Louis, and my cousin's iPhone 4 drops calls constantly. It's not the network, it's the phone.

The iPhone has a better app store ecosystem in that the quality of apps are often better and there are a ton of high-quality iOS games from big developers, not quite up there for Android yet.

The iPhone also has a very good camera and camcorder. Better media support (as in netflix, hulu +, AirVideo streaming, etc).

The Atrix is a great all-around device too. I think the camera and camcorder are pretty good, and the screen is wonderful. I just can't use a 3.5" screen on the iPhone anymore. And the iPhone notification system is just terrible.

Google Maps, Voice and Gmail are extremely good on the Atrix and they are all lacking on the iPhone. I also think the battery life on the Atrix is incredible. I'm getting better battery life than I had on any other phone ever.

I had to make this decision and I chose the Atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] robstunner:
Agreed, At least on a personal level. used my upgrade for the Atrix, returned it for the iPhone 4 a few days later. Today ill be going back, returning the iPhone and getting the Atrix at full price ($499). That way ill get my full upgrade back for July when I see how the next iPhone looks (if its not a 4" screen I doubt i'll waist my time, but we will see). I'm considering just staying with the Atrix and maybe supplimenting my lack of iOS games with the iPad 2, but we will see.
[Atrix 4G General] lesterp:
iPhone screen seems awfully small after using an atrix
[Atrix 4G General] elementaldragon:
I went from an iPhone 4 to an Atrix, and i don't miss the iPhone at all, really. Will the iPhone 5 be better? Possibly. Will i care? Not really. The main turn-off for me in regards to any Apple product is their OCD towards iTunes. I want my phone to be a phone..... just as much as i want a 16GB storage media to be a 16GB storage media. I don't want to have to either constantly sync it to iTunes, or rely on some 3rd party work-around to be able to access the data stored on my phone without using Apple's sh*tty software.

If it wasn't for iTunes, lack of complete customization, and basically being just another sheep in the herd carrying one around.... i wouldn't mind another iPhone. But until that time comes (which it never will), buh bye iPhone.
[Atrix 4G General] G1-8701:
Definitly agree
[Atrix 4G General] krad54:
Well, the choice also depends on whether you prefer stable and simple os or a more complex but not as cleaned up os. As for now, I agree with the other posters to wait for the iphone 5, then compare. Right now I have the atrix, and already the iphone 4 camera and screen are both better. The atrix may be powerful, but nothing is capable of fully utilizing it, not to mention that the iphone 5 will be just as, if not more, powerful. The atrix may be good in a few months, but for fast updates, reliable stability, and damn nice designing, wait for the iphone 5.

Oh and android doesn't have monopoly (I mean the board game)
[Atrix 4G General] Dillsnik:
Thank you everyone

Thanks to all that contributed...some very good points made all around.

Basically here's how i have broken down the comparison with all other things being practically equal:

Iphone has slightly better screen, excellent build (best of any phone possibly), and better cams, but proprietary OS etc make it hard(er) to customize.

Atrix has more customization/freedom, led notifications, possibly better call quality, and the potential to be a great phone once it's cracked.

I can't hold off for i5, although i'm sure i can give it a look when it's here. For the meantime i think i am going to go with the Atrix. It's a shame Apple turns off so many with having to use itunes bc i think that is where it's biggest argument against seems to be from and i am sure if i owned it i would not like that either
[Atrix 4G General] ranova:
after 4 years of using an iPhone, once I tried out Android, I stayed. User-customizability is what won me over (among other things such as notifications, google apps, swype, google nav, google voice, etc).

My timeline of smartphones as follows:

iPhone 2G, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, Evo, Captivate, Nexus One, Atrix
[Atrix 4G General] Dell2:
I will never be fooled by the Iphone's hardware improvements again, the software will still look like the 3g and 3gs. That's why I got so bored with the Iphone 4.

Also, the Android market has grown exponentially in a short period of time. Most quality apps are in both stores now, Words with Friends was the only reason I kept my Iphone 3gs around(gave it away).
[Atrix 4G General] Kueller:
I know you've already said you're going with the Atrix, but here's my take on the screen issue:

The Iphone screen is slightly better color-wise, but unless you're going to be doing professional photo editing on it, you'll probably get more use out of the 16% larger screen area on the Atrix.

Don't forget the things Apple carefully avoids in it's ads:

Non-replaceable battery. The Atrix's stock battery is better anyways, but 300-500 charges down the road when your battery is only holding 60-70% of it's original charge that iphone battery will really be annoying

No removable storage.

No HDMI out.
[Atrix 4G General] hondaguy:
i have been using android devices for a couple of years now and i am a big fan, but i have been using the iphone 4 since october (and to my surprise i really like it too). i own both right now but will most likely sell the ip4 next week.

gps lock goes to the ip4, but not by much. google maps is so much better on android due to the free navi and extra features you get in android.

browsing is a draw for me. atrix loads faster, hands down, but the iphone is slightly smoother with pinch to zoom. what i really like about android is the browser can reflow text in web pages. the retina display makes reading web pages easy too, though. either way, you cant go wrong. atrix has an easy hack in these forums to allow you to surf the web on your hd tv thru the included hdmi cable, so maybe atrix wins after all

stability---ip4 9.5/10 atrix 9/10. on the ip4 the odd time i get a hesitation when opening a folder, but other than that it is solid. so far the atrix has been great for me. the odd time when waking up the device i get a slight hesitation when trying to swipe homescreens, but i have changed the launcher to adw, so it could be that. also, the atrix was just released, so it will get even better

call quality--ip4 sound surprised me at first, but the atrix is better. the atrix has a more full and natural sound to my ears. i would drop almost a call per day with the ip4, or notice that rf would go from 5 bars to 1 for no apparent reason (i have a case so it is not the antenna attenuation issue which my ip4 has when not in a case). for the most part the ip4 has been good but not great when it comes to network stability. the atrix has been good so far, no issues.

the speaker on the back of the phone is better on the atrix, it is louder and actually has a little bit of bass. the ip4 is not bad, much better than my nexus 1 and desire were, but not as good as the atrix. the earphone speakers seem similar but i think the atrix wins here again.

i have enjoyed the ip4 as the hardware is awesome (glass and steel plus display is truly amazing) and the software is now mature enough that i can do most of what i need and want to do (i have jailbroken it). i always knew i would be back to android, though, and i have been waiting for the next generation of devices to come out. the download speeds have been great for me on rogers and i dont usually upload large files when not connected to wifi anyways, so the capped upload has not been an inconvenience for me
[Atrix 4G General] nycpk:
I know you already decided to go with the atrix but i did want to mention something i dont think anyone else has yet. I currently use both atrix and a i4 as i have 2 numbers on a family plan. Currently, the atrix has my number SIM in it.

The biggest difference for me is the app stores. While the android market is getting more apps everyday, it feels like i have seen every app in the market already, while in the apple app store, i can visit everyday and find new apps. I believe that the market will get better as more time goes by, which is why the atrix is my number, but that is something to consider if you are the "want it now" type. Also, the app store apps are more visually stunning then the markets. it feels like the market apps are made by devs with functionality in mind and the app store apps by designers with visual appeal in mind.

Just something to consider.
[Atrix 4G General] willgill:
1. GPS - Gotta give it to Atrix. Both lock very fast. In my experience the Atrix locks faster. However, with Atrix you get a nice, free full GPS with great integration.

2. Internet Browsing speed/ease - It seems like the Atrix is faster, however, it will really fly once they open up the cellular backhaul for Atrix and not just the iPhones. .... stupid AT&T.

3. Stability/Speed - Stability goes to the iPhone4. The Atrix hesitates slightly when rotating. The Atrix pulls up programs faster and of course has true, full multitasking whereas the iPhone4 has pseudo multitasking.

I'm guessing if you took all the "pretties" away from Android and just made a boring grid of icons, they would be pretty equal.

4. Call Quality/Least dropped calls - I haven't done a lot of testing with both, but the Atrix has faired well.

5. Speaker Quality/Volume - Atrix calls are clearer than iPhone 4.

What Atrix does for me is give me FREEDOM! Freedom from boring icons. Freedom from iTunes. Free to tether. Free to drag and drop anything on any computer. Free to change my GUI.
[Atrix 4G General] Dillsnik:
Update

Just got back from ATT store with new Atrix...

Now i need to find a goods thread for what setups i should do to it to get best experience...rooting, skinning...etc.

Brand new to android and kinda been idle in general lately. any help appreciated!
[Atrix 4G General] jthornton71707:
Having coming from both and not being a real fanboy of either I think I can give you a fair.unbiazed opinion. Everything is better on android with the exception of internet speed. The iphone 4 is.extremely faster... however it's awsome to have flash video work on a phone. Gps android hands down. Also most of the apps are free or u can easily get them for.free. the emulators are great. Running n64 on the atrix is flawless
[Atrix 4G General] willgill:
Square,we get it. You're a grid-o-icons ituner. Why spam the forums? We got your opinion in the other thread you started.
[Atrix 4G General] neotekz:
even thought apple's app store is bigger than android's i think that there are a lot less free apps and games with apple. With android you can get a free app to do pretty much anything you want and in some cases are better than paid versions not to mention a bunch of apps that apple doesnt think you should use...
[Atrix 4G General] tomit12:
I just came from a long line of iphones (I've owned them all) to the Atrix.

1. GPS

I'd say this is about 50/50. The Atrix and its navigation stuff are a touch better, but I'd be hard pressed to say there is enough of a difference between the 2 to use it as a deciding factor.

2. Internet Browsing speed/ease

This is also something of a toss up. Internet browsing is easier and smoother on the iPhone (speaking with the iPhone 4 as my reference.) However, no flash, and apps like Skyfire and the like are extremely poor substitutes. Browsing may be a little more elegant on the iPhone, but personally, I'll take being able to view anything on the web the way it was intended over only being able to view what Steve Jobs ordains as appropriate web content.

3. Stability/Speed

Stability I'll give to the iPhone. It still has its issues, like the still inordinately large number of apps that crash because they aren't 4.0+ compatible, but overall it is very reliable. I think I've had any of my iPhones just up and reboot like twice altogether since the iPhone debuted. Speed, the Atrix wins on loading and comparable games and whatnot, but honestly, it hasn't been a big enough difference that I could really say one is clearly superior to the other.

4. Call Quality/Least dropped calls

This is about even. I got more dropped calls on the i4 before I got a case because of antennagate, but the case clears up the issue (even though it was mildly irritating to me to have to use a case...I last dropped a phone like 10 years ago, so I primarily just use full body invisishields. I like to use my device looking and feeling the way it was intended. What can I say, I'm weird.)

Thus far they've both been loud and clear to callers on the other end, though I'll definitely give the speakerphone edge to the Atrix.

5. Speaker Quality/Volume

See above. The ghetto little speaker tucked IN to the bottom of the iPhones have always been a weak spot, but at the same time I'd say it isn't so bad that it is a deal breaker.

I'd say if you just want a phone that just works, is stable, reliable and easy to use, get the iPhone... just not until the iPhone 5, because you'd feel like a major chump paying the same price for a phone that is outdated 2 months later by its own yearly replacement.

I personally bought the Atrix because I'm a techno tinkerer. I like to fiddle with my gadgets (that's what she said) and play with all the neat things that the independent developers do with them, and while there is some fun stuff on the iPhone if you jailbreak it, none of it really compares to the stuff I've seen done by the developers here at XDA for the various phones I've had over the years that they support here.
[Atrix 4G General] smashcz:
If you need phone right now, definitely get atrix. But if you can wait till june, then definitely wait for iPhone 5.

Atrix is a great phone, but the android is not there yet.

Apps much better on iOS.

Android customisation is good, but once you jailbreak iPhone you can customise all you want.

I will most likely go back to iPhone 5.
[Atrix 4G General] robstunner:
I'm going to have to agree. The biggest reason i went to android in the first place was the screen sizes. IF the iPhone 5 does have the rumored 4" retina display, along with that dual core thats in the ipad it will be a very powerful device. iPad was kicking butt on the xoom in benchmark score. And im not going to lie, i cant even image a dual core version of Infinity Blade. All in all though, i still love the Atrix!
[Atrix 4G General] pfalor:
I've read the arguments and discussions, and I think I'm ready to give the Atrix a try - I'm currently using a iPhone 3GS, so my assumption is the Atrix will feel zippier and an improvement anyways. Any last minute comments to help me jump off the ledge? I feel weird abandoning my trusty iOS device, but it might be time for a change.
[Atrix 4G General] robstunner:
If your getting it from AT&T or a retail store, just know that you have 30 days to decide if you want to keep it. Best Buy will not charge you a restocking fee, but AT&T will.
[Atrix 4G General] pfalor:
I was planning to get it from Best Buy. I guess the 30-day security blanket does help. Thanks for the advice.
[Atrix 4G General] phonefreak111:
Your post is spot on!
[Atrix 4G General] Clienterror:
Well I doubt a android will reach the smoothness of iPhone. Why? Because android will be across tons of phones while iOS will be tailored to what 1-2 phones? Its pretty much impossible to make an OS run 100% smooth all the time over 200 different hardware platforms and multiple carriers molesting the original code. Another way iOS stays smoother is by limiting your available options and customizing, it took like what 3-4 years for apple to let people change just the background (I know you could jailbreak it, but its pretty sad you had to hack your phone just to change your background) I for one am glad I switched to android before iPhone 4 landed and would probably never go back unless they completely redid how they do things (never gonna happen).
[Atrix 4G General] 4mynikka:
I've recently sold my Atrix and purchased another iPhone 4 and here are my reasons:

- Email, I use hotmail as my primary email account, on the iPhone 4 my PC inbox and Phone always synced with one another but on Android I had to maintain both boxes which made it useless to setup the Hotmail as a sync account on the Atrix

- keyboard, I tried the Gingerbread Keyboard, Stock Moto Keyboard and Swype and not one was close to the iPhone's keyboard

- Wifi connection would disconnect and reconnect and it got annoying sometimes it took a while to get it going.

- Proximity Sensor bug on the Atrix, if I used my bluetooth headset and then use the phone's earpiece the proximity sensor will not work at all, I would have to reboot the phone in order for it to work again.

- Voice Dial Via bluetooth is useless unless the phones screen is turned on so I need to grab my phone (while I'm driving) unlock the screen and then press my bluetooth in order for me to say the command, defeats the whole purpose of voice command and a hands free device.

- Build quality simply put the Motorola Atrix feels like it cost $30 to put together nothing compared to the feel and build of the iPhone 4.

- Browser on the iPhone is better, I was able to do more things on the iPhone than the Android and I even used Dolphin HD instead of the Native Browser on the Atrix (this is excluding flash which I never used)

-the iPhone is overall more smooth and responsive with no lag.

- Data connection speeds on the iPhone I found was a lot better

- Copy and paste on the iphone is a Breeze I find it's ackward on the Android.

- The iPhone was a plug and play and I was ready to go, Android took me over an hour just to get it the way I wanted it to be, which is a great feature for most users but I like my stuff simple.

- Netflix support on iPhone

- Youtube Player I found was better presented and laid out on the iPhone

- Random reboots are brutal, especially when you're on an important call

- Speaker volume and quality is better on the iPhone, I'm referring to the loud speakers not the earpiece, call quality on the Atrix earpiece was excellent.

- As mentioned earlier the camera and screen are better on the iPhone

- Last but not least, Peace of mind, I know if my iPhone were to crap out I can walk into an Apple store and I'm good to go, since I had an AT&T unit in Canada I doubt I would have had Motorola Supporting me if the Atrix were to crap out.

So these are my reasons. All the best with your choice. Obviously the Atrix is a good phone since it's specs made me sell my previous iPhone 4 to begin with but now that I've used the Atrix I realize that there was not that many things that the Atrix could do better than the iPhone 4 which is why I switched back.
[Atrix 4G General] elementaldragon:
Well... a fair number of the issues you seem to have been having could have quite easily just been the phone. I've yet to have a single random reboot or any kind of issue that made me want to return my Atrix yet.
[Droid 2 General] palazuelosva:
Is there a way to make my D2 play the full song instead of just playing 30sec of the song n starting over again. My BB storm used to play the whole song.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bxojr:
I'm running Super Clean 2.6 (haven't had a chance to try 2.8 yet). No problems, but a question. Suppose I want to turn off the ad blocking that's part of SC; do I just edit the hosts file and remove everything except localhost? Or is there anything else in there that needs to stay?
[Gen8 General] ExploreMN:
On the Archos website they just increased the price $30, but buy now and you can get a free sleeve at a value of $30. LOL

Good to know all us 101 owners actually had our tablets increase in value!
[Gen8 General] Zoidpilot:
Wowsers...
[Gen8 General] cutterjohn:
I didn't notice that the other day, but int he US store they're a separate item and seem to be $19.99 at least for the a28-43. a70 and a101 are showing $29.99 item. Prices look to be what they were last week from what I remember... or about $10 or so higher than they were last Fall...

heh 16GB a43 is now OOS from the store too, apparently, and see a Internet Tablet 48, but no home page entry for it... crazy pricing scheme from Archos still in full effect as well I see, esp wrt a70, a101, and now the IT48... good thing almost no store sells the a43 16GB for it's Archos price, but closer to the original target price...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darren7171:
Hey guys. I have searched this btw, and couldn't find anything.

All my images in the gallery has disappeared, I've tired several apps to do a media scan and even used SEUS to flash it back to 2.1 and still havn't got them back! They're still on my sd card, I can see the files when it's connected to the computer. Any suggestions anyone? Thanks!! :D

Currently running Wolfbreak's CM6.1.3V4.3 if that's important.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bwyan Benton:
I'm currently running the same rom.....never had a single issue.

Try downloading "quickpic" by alansw.com from the market and see if that works.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darren7171:
Quickpic fixed it, if I select "show hidden." Seems like one of my folders got hidden somehow. That's a brilliant program. Thanks!! :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tjeeeeee:
Has anyone figured out how to stream music using bluetooth through a linux laptop.

Evo is running CM7 build 12 and Linux Mint 10 on a Cr-48
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wicked_beav:
Is there any way to get screenshot apps to work? We have root, but it mentions not having access to "low level graphics". Does anyone have suggestions other than the SDK?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidcues:
Does drocap2 work for ya
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] designgears:
Use ddms from the sdk
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wicked_beav:
Thanks for mentioning the SDK when I specifically mentioned for options OTHER THAN using that. Thanks anyways. I've tried drocap, shootme and screenshot it... all of which do not work at all. It keeps mentioning we don't have root access to low level graphics. Is there any way for us to enable that with the root access we have?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jxndxe:
Anyone know how to change backgrounded stock se app drawer. Well not really how. But where that file is located?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bwyan Benton:
Not sure how or if you can change that using se stock home. But if you use go launcher that allows you to use whatever picture you want for your app drawer.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JDwan:
ADW Launcher EX allows you to do this as well (at least to change the colour). The regular ADW might as well but it's been a while since I used it.

That's cool that Go launcher allows you to use pictures. Wonder if there is one that allows you to use a transparent background.

Not sure where the file is located though.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiewable:
The arc launcher has a transparent app drawer. It uses the homescreen wallpaper
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JDwan:
Guess I should give that Arc launcher a shot.

I could have sworn there were some themes that I used (possibly on a different ROM) that had transparent app drawer backgrounds as well. Oh well, no big deal.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jxndxe:
Good stuff. But does anyone have an idea about the stock se background file location for the app drawer?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] im_iceman:
I don't think that it uses an independent image for the background - I think that it's coded into the app drawer HTML/ JAVA code..
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] InternationalPlayer71:
Have a look to framework-res.apk file in system folder!! Propably you can find the image of the background colour!!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jxndxe:
I have been living in the framework-res.apk for a couple days and have had no luck thus far.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Buddha:
Be courage and mod a little! :p