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[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Athrun88:
Hi,

If you get a custom ROM which uses the 1.82 base you will be able to keep root, SuperCID and S-OFF. The ROM that I am using (link in my sig) is Virtuous ROM which is based off the 1.85 release. Really great if you want the latest build with Sense.

You can use the same method (i believe) to Unroot, SIM-Lock and S-On.

Regards.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Sebalos:
Ok ,thanks. Actually now I am using virtuous 1.0.1 as you, but my problem is that I didn't make any backup for my stock one before rooting. Now I would like to now how to back to the status from before rooting. My telcom provider is Era so I need stock Rom branded by Era :/
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Flash05:
is it possible to have temp/perm root on 1.82 on stock rom?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Sebalos:
I think yes I ve used it to downgrade from 1.82 to 1.34 to get permroot. It is pretty well described in one of the sticked guides, and actually in my first post you can find the link.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Spastic909:
Is this the right section for this conversation?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Sebalos:
First post was a question , wasn't it?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Flash05:
how about root without the need to downgrade?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] redpoint73:
This is the "Accessories" subforum.

As already mentioned, if you want a more recent Sense build, flash Virtuous. Its based on 1.85, and has some added features, but really not that modified. Much easier than messing with the newer official ROMs (which are not presently rootable).
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Sebalos:
Yeah, sorry guys you have right I had to write it here by mistake.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] MezitiGuY:
To root 1.82 you must downgrade.

Safest and best way is the goldcard way

I had 1.82 unrooted desire Z

i used the goldcard way.

this link brings you to the topic.

Once you reach the third part.

you have to do following first

Start command promt.

Browse the command to you ADB folder

enter: ADB Shell Chmod 777 /data

Now you are able to pull the misc file from you phone.

This is normally only available at rooted.

now i run Cyanogenmod v7 =)

Kind regards
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] redpoint73:
Resurrecting a 2-month old thread, posted in the completely wrong subforum, was probably a bit pointless.

Just saying.
[Droid X General] spacecasespiff:
After I record a vid on my phone I play it back and I've noticed that it only plays in landscape mode even if you record in portrait mode you still have to watch it in landscape mode. I have been using roms for awhile and noticed it so I flashed back to stock to see it it did the same thing and it does. Thought it was kinda odd.
[Droid X General] ksheyman:
Just flashed liberty 1.5 recently. I love it but i'm having two very odd problems. one of them - the camera not functioning properly - has been talked about in other threads but i don't see any solutions. At least none that i understand. for me, when i open the camera app it looks like it is working. then when i take a picture, it just won't save the image.

The other one problem is much stranger. I've been using an app called AudioGalaxy for a while to stream music from my home computer to my cell phone. It stopped working a few days ago. At first I thought it was just a server outage, since when I tried to go to audiogalaxy.com] through my phone it did not load. Then i randomly decided to try it on my home computer. to my surprise, it WORKED. audiogalaxy is not down, it just won't work on liberty 1.5. the app installs, it just won't connect to the server. and even more strange is that it won't load audiogalaxy.com in the browser. other sites work as normal, but not that one. i restored to a different rom and it worked again. however i really like liberty so i want to try and make this work. unfortunately audiogalaxy is the app i use more than any other so clearly we have a problem.

if anyone has any ideas on how to fix this, pelase let me know. i tried wiping data/cash and installing liberty again fresh. audiogalaxy WORKED for the first day and then stopped working again. i just don't understand what could be wrong with the app that could also prevent me from getting to audiogalaxy.com in the browser.

the camera not working is annoying but not nearly as critical as audiogalaxy.

thanks to anyone who takes the time to reply!!
[Droid X General] Jmoney47:
Are you on the lastest system update? Something like this happened to me a while ago. To check, just go to your bootloader and see if the version is 30.04
[Droid X General] ksheyman:
oh dang. i just checked and it is 30.03. how do i update that?
[Droid X General] EtherBoo:
How do you go to your bootloader? You mean with bootstrap?
[Droid X General] ksheyman:
No. turn your phone off and hold power, volume down, and the camera key
[Droid X General] EsotericPunk:
I had this same issue of it not connecting. Have you blocked ads using Liberty Toolbox? If you used the Liberty Toolbox to block ads it can cause the Audiogalaxy app to fail connection to the server. To me, it was worth the ads to get AG to work. Hope this helps.
[Droid X General] ksheyman:
EsotericPunk and Jmoney47, you guys are my heros. Updating my bootloader solved the camera problem, and disabling the ad blocker solved the audiogalaxy problem. believe it or not i actually thought to try disabling the ad blocker too. i did it and it didn't change anything so i just re-enabled it. what i didn't try before is REBOOTING THE PHONE after disabling the ad blocker. that is what did the trick.

NEW QUESTION (might need a new thread): is there a way to adjust the adblocker settings to allow audiogalaxy?

i love the world right now. thanks again guys
[Droid X General] Jmoney47:
You ccould possibly try adfree from the market. This is just an app that blocks ads. If it doesn't work, then just press revert and reboot and you're back to the way you were
[Droid X General] marculous:
I also had problems with the camera, so I used liberty toolbox to install blur camera, much better.
[HTC Inspire 4G] PatrickHuey:
Hey guys. I know I'm posting this in here so I assume bias answers will come aboutt but I'm switching to att and I cannot decide between the two. What do you think? I know the atrix isn't very rootable or romable but has amazing specs. But the inspire is, and is a beautiful device. What are your opinions? How easy is the inspire to root?
[HTC Inspire 4G] 2kgt:
Depends on if you prefer the allure of a dual core processor over end user customization and superior build quality.

Rooting the Inspire is very easy if you can follow the instructions exactly as they are written.
[HTC Inspire 4G] newter55:
Have both myself and the atrix is going back. Everyone has their preference for what they want in a phone and I really wanted to like the atrix but I don't see the benefit at this time of dual core when it comes at the expense of customizing. I am somewhat biased toward sense as well even though I don't always use sense roms, it is nice to have the option. The inspire is a great phone and I know I won't get bored given the variety of roms that are, or will be available.

Battery seems to be a topic that comes up but honestly I have been getting great results with the inspire. 13 hours off charger today and dropped to 68%. Light day for me, only an hour of display time and few minutes of calls but everything left to sync every hour. One major thing I have noticed is that even if you do find you need to recharge, the inspire charges quickly, even using computer usb, while the atrix takes a lot longer and is painfully slow if you are not using a regular outlet to charge.
[HTC Inspire 4G] RogerPodacter:
Been covered before, but the inspire really is the better device. MOTO kinda screwed the atrix up with software.
[HTC Inspire 4G] GameDoctor:
100% agree. I returned my Atrix for the Inspire, and I'm glad I did. Inspire has a much more polished and functional user interface.

New root tools now available here should make rooting easy.
[HTC Inspire 4G] mudknot2005:
As said before it depends on what you want.

Phone with awesome specs or Phone with awesome dev support and a great UI

Both phones are awesome in their own right, but for me its all about having control of my phone and being able to do what I like to it.

In all honesty I'd wait for a dual core phone till HTC makes one. This is my first HTC coming from a blackberry bold. I don't think I'll ever not go with HTC again...

edit: Baaa I sound like a fanboy.....
[HTC Inspire 4G] PatrickHuey:
okay, i appreicate your help guys. i guess now im just trying to figure out when i get the phone, how to root. ive been looking at this for simple s off and root(which is all i want for ROMing and using OC kernels). has anyone had luck with this, and or was it rather easy?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=961406
[HTC Inspire 4G] newter55:
I just used the hack kit to root. Not hard if you just follow the instructions and only takes 45 minutes after you get all the files downloaded.
[HTC Inspire 4G] tosh1:
Just returned my Atrix back to Radioshack and got the Inspire!! Just as everyone said here, if you want something good on paper but with no real use, then the Atrix is for you, but if you want a proven phone with an unlocked bootloader for ROMS etc... then this is the the right choice...

Although I lost my front facing camera, i figured I rarely used it anyways, so no biggie for me. I also didn't like the smaller icons on the Atrix. Even though it has less RAM and i less core, it still performs pretty dang fast..

Quadrant scores with a good amount of apps. without OC or anything stock is still hitting: 1807

Color looks much better too on this screen..... glad I switched to this phone instead. I am sure I will get a better dual or quad core in the next year but until then this will do....

Bye Motorola...except for the Xoom..that looks like a good choice though.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Clienterror:
Your asking this in the inspire forms, of course everyone will say the inspire is better. If you asked this in the atrix forums you'd get the opposite response I've had both and returned the inspire. It isn't a bad phone but it has horrid battery life and no internal sd storage. It has great roms and OCs like a monster but OC and bad battery life just compound the problem. I can see why people would choose one or the other, it really just depends on what you're looking for.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Androidude:
I'm not sure if this is true or not, but a guy on Reddit said he was talking with a Motorola Representative and the Rep. told him that the Atrix doesn't use both cores at the same time. One is for the phone and the other is just for the laptop dock. Maybe someone else has more info on this.
[HTC Inspire 4G] legend221:
Wow, another reason Im happy I stuck to my guns and got this phone.

Sent from my crunk Inspire 4G
[HTC Inspire 4G] PatrickHuey:
so if I use bubbys GUI, that will allow me to sideload apps? Or ill need to put a rom that allows that? Or what is the sideload wonder machine? I'm sorry for all the questions, the htc vision is a lot more simple.
[HTC Inspire 4G] DumIam:
Used hack kit on my inspire and bubbys on my wifes. not as easy as samsung galaxy s, however not difficult if you follow the directions to the letter lol. my only issue with buys was total user error on my part lol. ended up making 32 gb class 4 gold card instead of the already made 4 gb gold card I had.
[HTC Inspire 4G] ryanthered:
If you just want to sideload, you can use Sideload Wonder Machine. If you want root and custom roms use one of the hack kits.
[HTC Inspire 4G] blperks2:
I actually have both phones. I love both of them for different reasons.

Atrix - Works well once you change launchers. Fast and smooth. I actually like the smaller icons and all. But I use this phone mostly as a personal backup phone. But it works well and is crystal clear with a strong signal. MUCh MUCH better than my old cappy.

Inspire - My work phone, thank GOD I work from home and can have it plugged in most of the time. When I travel I have to have the Atrix just in case I cant get juice on the road. But, the inspire is awsome, not as fast but "good enough" for me. Love the size and color of it and the sense ui just works for me. I can tell which pocket has what phone based on bulk and weight. Very nice quality phone. Plus, I had a cappy, and we all know what we did almost every day. Loaded custom roms, played and even bricked a few but its so addicting.

If I had to go purchase one today, knowing what I know, Inspire would be my first choice, Again I own both and love both but first choice for the pure fun and joy it would give me the INSPIRE wins hands down.
[HTC Inspire 4G] donharden2002:
Got my inspire today. Mixed feelings so far. Have to admit i kind of miss my captivate a little.

I think the inspire screen size is perfect. But i miss the superamoled. I don't know if its just me but my screen has horrible viewing angles and also seems to have too much of a grey color to it.

If samsung brings out the infuse soon i might give it a shot. This being my first htc maybe i should give it more time. Might return it for another one to see how the screen looks.

As far as the atrix goes, they couldn't pay me to use that phone. Played with one a little today, it's more hype than anything imo.

I like the form of the inspire, it feels solid, not iphone4 solid but very close. I hope rooting and everything gets easier.

Someone smarter than Me should start selling goldcards for this phone. Id be 1st in line for one.
[HTC Inspire 4G] psufan5:
I had both phones - inspire is the best phone I have ever had. It made the atrix look like a toy. iPhone 4 has a better camera, but thats about it.

Inspire all the way. Galaxy S 2 is looking good though, if it ever comes out.

Edit: How can anyone with an Atrix and Inspire say the inspire is slower? The atrix is the definition of a neutered turtle. That thing is clunky and useless.
[HTC Inspire 4G] donharden2002:
I'm also a psu fan. I hope that they let Joe stay on the sideline forever. Hell he should be buried there.

Back on topic, my opinion if the atrix is that it is basically a moto iphone that is not as good as the 4 but somewhere inbetween a 3 gs and the iphone 4.

As far as the inspire goes, it needs a better screen in my opinion but maybe i just got a bad one. I'm taking it back today to try another one and if its the same then i may just wait for the infuse to come out.

If you look in the atrix forum it appears that the majority are giving up on it already.

Dg got rid of his and i think but don't quote me in this, he said he doesn't think the locked will ever be broken in to which leads me back to my iphone reference. Same thing, you can root (jailbreak) it but not much else.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Kizzmiazz:
Did dg really get rid of his Atrix, did he post about it some where? Only reason I ask is cause I was planning on trying the atrix in my thirty day period bit if he left I'm not even gonna try. He doesn't give up that easy so if he have up looks bad lol

Sent From My HTC Inspire 4G ¦ CoreDroid HD v3.2 SKINNED
[HTC Inspire 4G] donharden2002:
Yep, his atrix is gone. I was thinking of giving one a try so I read thru his post.

Now that he is no longer working on it I wont be trying one. I think he was the best shot people had at getting the bootloader unlocked.

He mentioned that he is waiting for the sgs2 or the infuse so I may end up following him.

I hope he doesn't think I'm stalking him.
[HTC Inspire 4G] captmiddy:
I considered waiting on the next Samsung generation but given that I was so frustrated with the Captivate and its GPS issues not to mention some other issues with the phone, I couldn't bring myself to buy another Samsung.

As to the Atrix, I did consider it, but the cost to really make it complete was too high and my need to install non ATT approved packages made it a non-starter. I have packages that have to be installed from other packages or they don't install properly, so the thought of sideloading them isn't a workable solution. I am guessing my fear on the installation of applications may have been without merit but the phone had only been available a week when I made the decision which to go with. No custom ROMs sort of locked the decision because I am not patient enough ;-)
[HTC Inspire 4G] Verysafety:
what good is hardware if the software is ****? atrix is appealing but it doesn't look sleek or sexy, and until people develop roms for it, doesn't seem appealing to me..
[HTC Inspire 4G] knarfl1:
Slightly off topic but people, stop calling Inspire "Inspire 4G". At best it's "Inspire 3.5G"

It is not a LTE device. Actually, LTE is not even 4G. Don't perpetuate the false advertising by AT&T.
[HTC Inspire 4G] side808:
people are calling it Inspire 4G because its name is Inspire 4G... its not called Inspire 3.5G. AT&T named it that way and there is nothing that YOU can do about it.
[HTC Inspire 4G] knarfl1:
mmm, don't look now but 4G has become a generic marketing reference, nothing more.

Funny that AT&T lambasted T-Mobile for calling HSPA+ (basically 3G with backhaul enhancements) as "4G." AT&T said it is misleading the customers and said they would not label HSPA+ phones as 4G. Yet here we are.

But hey, keeping eating what AT&T feeds you.
[HTC Inspire 4G] DumIam:
well, if the name of the phone or service through at&t is so bothersome for you, go troll another forum. This one is obviously not for you lol.

Sent from my Inspire 4g running RCMix HD 4.1
[HTC Inspire 4G] jake359:
There ate actually no 4G networks, defined by the ITU as 100mbs download speeds. But the ITU recently stated that networks on an upgrade path to LTE can call their 3.5 or 3.8G networks 4G. It was not until then that AT&T began using marketing slogans like "getting faster with 4G". It's all meaningless marketing drivel. "4th Generation" means different things on different technologies. I like 6G, because 6 and G look cool next to each other.
[HTC Inspire 4G] homeslice976:
Lol...6G...this made me think of the Ozzy/Justin Bieber super bowl commercial.

"What's a Bieber?"

"I don't know, but he looks like a girl"

Anyway, the phone was given the name Inspire 4G, as Jake pointed out, the ITU gave everyone the go-ahead to refer to their enhanced 3G networks as 4G (wiki). If you remember, the IPhone4 also caused a lot of confusion. Even though ATT doesn't push that phone as a 4G device, the 4 still led a lot of people to believe that it was. The information is available to smart consumers who do a little bit of research before buying a product. ATT could have called this thing "Piece of Trash 1G" and I'd still love it :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] RogerPodacter:
penn state alumni here too, graduated in 2002. JoePa forever:D.

last night i did some tests on the inspire, and man one thing i am jealous of, is even with the large screen it seems to be very power efficient. with the screen at max brightness, the current draw would not break 240mA. my nexus one crushes at 700mA at max brightness on white pages. with the inspire at min brightness, the power draw was 100mA. that is fantastically good for such a large screen.

also seems the inspire is the first phone after the nexus one to use the ds2784 battery driver, which means my app we wrote could be ported to the inspire as well!
[HTC Inspire 4G] robotkirby:
Didn't care much for the Attrix cause of its goofy software, plus the phones body just wasn't fitting for me.
[HTC Inspire 4G] MarkPharaoh:
Agree with most other posts here. Also, DesignGears (a great dev from the Captivate forums) had one and returned it.
[HTC Inspire 4G] tian105:
Im in the same boat as OP.

Trying to decide between Atrix or the inspire.

This would be so much easier if HTC inspire had a 1930 mah battery and maybe a duo core CPU in it :(

meanwhile, im hoping for the Galaxy S 2 to come out ASAP!

however, if my patience runs out, i will grab the Inspire and try it out, if i dont like it, might exchange it for the Atrix.
[HTC Inspire 4G] knarfl1:
In your own words, "I call it Inspire "3.5G" and there is nothing that YOU can do about it."

lol
[HTC Inspire 4G] knarfl1:
Thank you. Somebody who actually understands it's just marketing hype.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Androidude:
It doesn't change the fact that the phone is capable of 4g speeds(I don't need any lectures on the definition of 4g.) AT&T has a marketing department? SHOCKING. Just let it go and move on.
[HTC Inspire 4G] side808:
oh i understood the marketing hype. its just you are telling people not to call the phone the Inspire 4G when the name is obviously Inspire 4G. it was never a question of network speeds.
[HTC Inspire 4G] yokozuna82:
I love this inspire ...I came from the atrix and after 5 days I finally tried the inspire and have not regretted it...I'm telling you even though the atrix has the duo core the difference you see is in loading of picture ...but just a few milliseconds...even in heavy flash content websites the inspire flows smoothly the screen is just gorgeous the headset sound is nice and load the main speaker not so much ...HTC really out did them selves on this one ... I like it so much I'm keeping it at stock only interested in sideload apps
[HTC Inspire 4G] tim.mahan:
Just switched to the Inspire 4g

I bought an Atrix a couple days after they were release, had it for 2 weeks and REALLY tried to love it (It has almost everything I wanted on paper) and finally I just couldn't take it anymore. Yesterday I went and traded it for the Inspire, had the thing rooted/unlocked and loaded with CM 7 within an hour.

It is substantially better in a single night than the Atrix ever was over the 2 weeks. Hugely better build quality, just as responsive, custom roms, better camera (can't speak to the battery yet) and a much stronger dev community.

I do miss the extra screen real estate the high resolution gave (I know a lot of people ragged on the screen, but it was a nice upgrade from the N1). I figure that will fade in a couple days as I get used to it...and it may be a fine trade off for the bigger screen (which although has a lower res, for general use looks just as sharp).

Bottom Line: If you are interested in custom roms and not being tied to Blur/Sense it is a no-brainer.

Quadrant: 2478

Speed Test: Up:3264 Dn:1554
[HTC Inspire 4G] knarfl1:
Funny, AT&T had a problem with T-Mobile doing the same thing.
[HTC Inspire 4G] naplesbill:
Well, they basically had to cave on this. The 4G ads from T-Mobile kind of forced their hands. They still have to compete with the other carriers.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Zamdam1:
I got my Atrix on 3/2/11 and tomorrow i will be going to return it and try out the atrix.. I just hate buying these phones full price.. 499. come one, really. At least the Inspire is 399 so i will save 100. I like the Atrix, but some of the lag is a little ridiculous for this phone to have any lag at all.. a gb of ram and a dual core cpu. what the heck was moto thinking installing their crap on this "could be awesome phone."
[HTC Inspire 4G] knarfl1:
Then ATT shouldn't point fingers and say TMO is misleading TMO customers by claiming HSPA+ is not "4G." Can't have it both ways.

Furthermore, Apple devices like iP4 and iPad 2 on ATT HSPA+ are not capped or have HSUPA disabled (just do a speed test with an Inspire and iP4 at the same time/place.) WTF with dissing the Android users?
[HTC Inspire 4G] knarfl1:
You know what the saddest thing about this is? Inspire is slower than some of the ATT's 3G phones.
[HTC Inspire 4G] naplesbill:
Pointing fingers is rarely good marketing. Especially if it is a big Guy picking on a little Guy.

The speed throttle is curious though. I bet it is a bandwidth issue. That would explain why they mentioned plans to enable hsupa for many current devices later this year.