yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Incredible S] madmaxx82:
Hi!

I don't know if that's useful information or not.

Before installing a gingerbread rom, I did a nandroid.

After rooting and installing clockworkmod recovery again, I restored the nandroid.

The boot process was unusually slow, but it booted and everything seemed to be ok. Wifi + Mobile Data worked and everything was as before, BUT I couldn't make any phone calls.

When I called someone, I wouldn't hear anything.. nothing.. although the call was established..

I rebooted: still same problem.

Really strange.

Then I restored the gingerbread backup and everything worked again..

I imagine nandroid doesn't backup the radio does it (but why did 3G work then..)? Is it that or the new hboot (though really illogical ?!) somehow affecting that?

Edit: nevermind, would have needed to flash the old radio. It would be nice though if it was possible to also include the current radio in a nandroid.
[HTC Incredible S] rasheed-rcx:
Greeaaat!!! Lotsa progress :d
[HTC Incredible S] cctv35:
Happy~Unlock success by xtc-clip.
[HTC Incredible S] CamoGeko:
Ohww :( I wish I had one of those....
[HTC Incredible S] venezia64:
Go to "ROOT" on 89 Edgware road in London. They have one. You're only 40-50km from there ;)
[HTC Incredible S] CamoGeko:
:eek:, oh yeah I might do. How much do they charge?
[HTC Incredible S] Bantu85:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1042997

They charge £10. PM androf for details
[HTC Incredible S] lge73:
From Sensation forum:

Originally Posted by Bin4ry

I have made serious progress on that, but even if i really make it on IncS i'm not sure if i will publish it to the masses, because htc is really quick in fixing exploits.

Regards

:(:(:(
[HTC Incredible S] Pacjonek:
Because bin4ry wants to wait for the release of Sensation. At 99% exploit will work on HTC Sensation, Desire S etc. . If bin4ry released this exploit now, HTC will patch this exploit on Sensation and derivatives.

We must be patient, to release HTC Sensation:)
[HTC Incredible S] knightrocker:
Yes ... We must wait for sensation ...
[HTC Incredible S] walda:
+1 for waiting!
[HTC Incredible S] lyriquidperfection:
I have xtc clip if anyone in uk wants to S-OFF their Incredible S.

PM me if you are interested.

BR

Gaz
[HTC Incredible S] androf:
xtc-clips around the world
[HTC Incredible S] Cookie Ninja:
I have a sim-free unlocked HTC incredible s purchased from India (my first Android device after a string of winmo devices). I have dabbled in cooking ROMs for these wm6 / 6.5 devices and am willing to contribute to this forum.

First. Is my phone S-off?, if so how can I get root access?

Second. Can I contribute in any way, or am I relegated to sit and watch?

Pl advice.

Sent from my HTC Incredible S
[HTC Incredible S] androf:
My I ask a question? Why is it SO difficult for some people to post in this thread?

Rooting Incredible S [Not Done Yet] Questions & Discussion
[HTC Incredible S] ddic:
In order to check if you device is S-OFF or not, just turn on your phone keeping volume down button pressed. It will show you in the first line if it is on or off.
[HTC Incredible S] Bin4ry:
You guys got me wrong!

I said that i made progress YES, but i have not achieved anything.

With progress there is one problem, you can make it to 99% and then your idea shows up NOT to work -> You will be at 0% again :D

So let me do my work and i will not let you hang out until the Sensation is out.

I just said that i will NOT publish the EXPLOIT !!!!

That means:

IF i get my idea running i will NOT make it opensource until the Sensation is out. Even more i will try to hide it from HTC like the unrevoked guys did it before ;)

I hoped that cleared some stuff here. So if i get anything to run you guys will be the first to know and benefit from it ;)

Regards

Bin4ry
[HTC Incredible S] walda:
but when you release something if you did it (not yet, i know), i am sure that htc figures out what and how you did it. think that they are gurus in this case.
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
First of all: Ty bin4ry for all your work already!

And like he said: as soon as he gets through we will benefit. Probably means: it goes through some test rounds with several phones. If its considered stable he will release the compiled program. But the source will be private until the sensation is out.

At least that's my guess.

Keep up the good work bin4ry!
[HTC Incredible S] Hawkysoft:
I VOTE FOR

no publishing of exploits in open sauce

KEEP IT HIDDEN

and if ppl dont like that... Erhm make it yourselve from scratch
[HTC Incredible S] MarylandCookie:
I take it your in the Nottingham area :(

Guess its only a month or so wait lol..
[HTC Incredible S] nikhil007mmus:
Thankyou bin4ry !! waiting for ur work :)
[HTC Incredible S] TiM3SH1FT:
Thank you Bin4ry and all the devs who are currently working on this!

I can't wait to see the exploit do it's magic on my beloved phone :D
[HTC Incredible S] Pacjonek:
Even when you fail make exploit (we do not want that:D), THANK YOU for your work!!!

1+ for

NO

publishing of exploits in open source and wait to Sensation (fu*k HTC!)
[HTC Incredible S] CamoGeko:
This phone is beautiful!

C'mon HTC, bring out 2.3.3 in UK, you're taking waaay too long lol
[HTC Incredible S] J2theMatt:
Will Exploit be the same for Incredible 2

Sorry if this is a bit of a noob question, but will the rooting process for the Inc S be the same as the Inc 2?
[HTC Incredible S] rasheed-rcx:
Whoa...that was a great news bin4ry! glad to hear from u:-D
[HTC Incredible S] CamoGeko:
You're a legend mate! :D
[HTC Incredible S] knightrocker:
Sorry to be rude guys but please could we move this to the discussion thread? This is where the devs report their progress ... All we do here is watch ... And we must ask our questions and clear our doubts and wish the devs good luck in the other thread ... Thats how it should be ... So please dont hate me or anything but we are literally spamming here ... Its about time we bug out of this thread ...
[HTC Incredible S] cooljais:
Noce bin4ry. You're the man.
[HTC Incredible S] vegetaleb:
Originally Posted by Bin4ry

You guys got me wrong!

I said that i made progress YES, but i have not achieved anything.

With progress there is one problem, you can make it to 99% and then your idea shows up NOT to work -> You will be at 0% again

Another reason for other devs to not stop trying new methods and don't just wait 2 months perhaps for nothing ;)
[HTC Incredible S] RBThompsonV:
Wondering... Does anyone here know how the XTC clips actuallu set the S-OFF on the IS? and has anyone ever compared an S-On with an S-OFF?
[HTC Incredible S] ACD168:
will this XT clip work on my incredible 2?
[HTC Incredible S] vido.ardes:
Yes, you shave to insert a sin card into the phone that is connected to the device, and that presents itself as an engineering sim and throws the device into a debug mode, where we can turn the security off. It is not possible to get into this mode without an engineering sim, hence the need for hard ware
[HTC Incredible S] MarylandCookie:
I tried Gingerbreak on a Desire S (I know IS forum lol) and used a blank sdcard coverted to a gold card and had achieved a temp root with super user installed (with S-ON), however most apps force closed on me probably due to the NAND lock.

I even tried a second time but with ROM Manager pre-installed just for laughs but due to the SD Card unmounted from GingerBreak, ROM Manager wouldnt do anything and i know flashing a recovery would be pointless due to the signature check but i wanted to see how far i can go.

I guess we now need the good old HTC developers to work on this exploit to unlock the NAND in the process then were good to go. Wheres Paul when you need him :D

P.S

ChainFire has provided the source to his app under the GPL license which i guess paul can incorporate into his visionary app.

Your probably wondering what use is this to the IS?

Well hopefully when GB comes along to the IS you may not need to wait....

Where's all the Nand Unlock Guru's at?
[HTC Incredible S] ACD168:
I was chosen as one of the 10 beta testers. Here comes s-off for my inc2!!!!!! Gunna be a blast!
[HTC Incredible S] storm_me:
Guys..

find this on the web to s-Off... do you think it´s worth it???

site: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever

can we s-off IS???

regards
[HTC Incredible S] Dr34mc4tch3r:
nope isn't on the supported phones list
[HTC Incredible S] Hawkysoft:
To all new ppl, search read than post please..
[HTC Incredible S] jkolner:
Just read this POST that a guy Rooted his IncS with SuperOneClick.

I'm not sure it's true, but im trying it now.
[HTC Incredible S] doctorsax:
That's a one-line post with no details whatsoever, he doesn't say if it's an S-ON, or if it's temproot, what stock ROM he started with... I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope.
[HTC Incredible S] ddic:
I have tried and still nothing. The process is hanging on running Gingerbreak or exploit.. depens on what you choosed. :(

My IS is s-on.
[HTC Incredible S] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
lol you know better than to cite a one line post with NO details and questionable credibility.
[HTC Incredible S] jkolner:
I guess that it was a bit to much to hope for...

Im going to Paris next week so the kids can go to Disney Land, and i can meet with a guy that has a XTC-Clips ;-)
[HTC Incredible S] bebolf:
Network Unlock & S-OFF

Apologize in advance if I missed the answer to my question after a bit of looking on the forum.

I've currently unlocked my Canada Bell IS by providing my IMEI to this website: http://www.htcimeiunlock.com/

Now I can use sim cards other than Bell's. What confuses me is that what difference does unlocking my IS's network lock make? Does it mean that it's now S-OFF?

Cheers
[HTC Incredible S] TheEscapist:
S-off determines whether or not you can write to the system partition. Without it, you can't root, use custom roms, etc.
[HTC Incredible S] bebolf:
I got that part :)

So are you saying unlocking the phone has nothing to do with make the phone S-OFF?

Thanks mate
[HTC Incredible S] TheEscapist:
Nope. They are totally unrelated.
[HTC Incredible S] loddogg:
Hello i just get my incredible S and im wondering if its good to update it to gingerbread as a update is out. Will i be available to root my phone when developers will finish rooting it (im pretty sure they can make it its just matter of time =p)

im asking becouse before i had htc wildfire and becouse i update it to 2.2 i couldnt root my phone cuz it was available only for 2.1.

so will rooting process continiue on gingerbread 2.3? or it will be only for 2.2

thanks =)
[HTC Incredible S] vido.ardes:
We can currently root the update, hut I cannot say wether the nand unlock exploit (when it comes) will work on 2.3. At the moment we cannot downgrade either, because the radio will not downgrade even with a goldcard.

It's likley the exploit will work with 2.3 as it will be similar to the sensation, but their are no guarantees
[HTC Incredible S] bebolf:
oops, I could have checked that on the bootloader screen :S
[HTC Incredible S] voiceofid:
TeamAndIRC has been testing with my DINC2, yesterday we got this -

His Engineering nb0 got past modelID check according to him
[HTC Incredible S] jcase:
Not to bust bubbles, but... Trying to hot-replace a kernel is not going to allow you to write to hboot, nor any other partition protected by the emmc lock (write protection). The protection simply is not being done by the kernel.

Hboot controls if the emmc is locked on boot., and the lock should be protecting hboot if it is like any othe IncS class phone (desireS, thunderbolt, inc2 etc).

Ship s-off is not determined in the hboot, ship s-off is radio s-off and is determined in the radio params/config/whateveritisproperlycalled. Best you will get out of replacing hboot is ENG s-off (what we have in thudnerbolt land, and it works fine ffor 99.999% of those wanting root). We have not been able to set SHIP s-off because the radio params seem to be permanent read only on new HTC devices.

The vulnerability that wpthis takes advantage of was closed in radios made around or after January 10th 2010. Unless you find one that old, the wpthis route is not likely to work.
[HTC Incredible S] jcase:
Incredible S is using emmc not nand.
[HTC Incredible S] JBO1018:
Not questioning you at all just curious but what will SHIP/RADIO s-off allow that ENG s-off wont?

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[HTC Incredible S] jcase:
Opens up some advanced radio functions and does not go away when flashing a new ruu or update. With eng hboots, s off is only kept until the hboot is replaced

Sent from LG Nexus Prime
[HTC Incredible S] JBO1018:
Ah I see. Thanks for the info.

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[HTC Incredible S] brokenworm:
im able to decrypt rsa512 combined with 3des and rsa1024

so its possible, but we would need a very big computer or a fleet to help running/searching an area each ..

pretty easy.. i actually have been running a bruteforce application since i got the crypted key file..i could get lucky and find the key fast !

twitter.com/marsdroid
[HTC Incredible S] jcase:
Likelyhood of this working is extremely small. However, look into amazon's gpu cloud instances.

Good luck.

Sent from LG Nexus Prime
[HTC Incredible S] MentalDeath:
Wish I could help but I am absolutely useless :(

::EDIT::

Maybe the Droid X method might be of some use because I remember that it was part of that method that the Dreams users used to unlock the Rogers Perfected SPL. I hope I am on the right track, correct me if I am wrong but Nand lock is SPL related correct? Here is the method for the Rogers SPL.
[HTC Incredible S] Hawkysoft:
its time for a stupid question ;)

did you try the latest version of z4root yet?
[HTC Incredible S] vido.ardes:
Yeah I tried that last night with no luck. I'm really hitting a brick wall here, and haven't heard back from bubby since he first contacted me, this might just have to wait until a more experienced dev picks one up
[HTC Incredible S] Hawkysoft:
well ive to wait i think 1 week before i can get one ;/ than i can play around also.. shudnt take long by than
[HTC Incredible S] Bantu85:
well sadly my experiences are pretty much as everyone else has stated. unrevoked refuses to run and superoneclick reports it's given me temp root but this does not seem to be the case when I adb into the devices (e.g. i have been unable to remove teeter :P)

At least USB debugging allows us to remove a few things (the amazon mp3 is a particular annoyance!)

Will keep researching and trying to see how the NAND lock can be bypassed.

So far there seem to be 2 main options for root:

1. Get hold of an engineering RUU which comes with s-lock off... or at the very least adb access in recovery (in which the NAND lock should be off anyway)

2. Unrevoked release a version of their tool for the vivo which exploits whatever security hole they've previously discovered to open up our Incredible S's.
[HTC Incredible S] bitpatrol:
No Root yet? I guess it's the curse of wanting the latest and greatest ;)

I'll give it a shot later today too ... When home... Not promising anything of course :)
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
@MentalDeath Tnx for the links, but they are all for older phones and older hboots. So none of them are working. About the goldcard method, currently working with that but also seems to fail, needs more testing though

@bantu85 u got root rights ( got a # when you adb?), but no write rights in the system partition, huge difference ;)

I think Unrevoked has retired somewhat, since all the newer phones are not supported....

Currently looking around for some help with this one. i think it ends up with flashing a signed exploitable radio which exploits the system for s-off once that is set, flash a recent radio back. somewhat like the inspire 4g, but seems we neet other files :(

I'm not good enough with the systems to find exploits, so thats where i need help for.

Greets timbo.

p.s. we will get this little thing down on his knees and do what we want!
[HTC Incredible S] Bantu85:
ah.. that sounds like something i've read on another post timbo.. and you're probably right.

I'm working on dumping the stock rom so that i have something to reflash in case of disaster...

But i'm wondering if that will do any good.. the recovery only accepts update.zip's signed by HTC right?

Basically, before i go flashing hacked radio roms i want to make sure i have a backup.

I used busybox to tar my /system folder and then am following this tutorial:

http://htcpedia.com/forum/htc-hero-android-development/1404-[howto]-rom-cooking.html
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
The backup probably won't work, it has to be signed by HTC indeed. You can download the ruu from the other thread here.

It has the same version numbers so its probably the same.

Will try to install that one this weekend, since its a dev Rom.

After that ill try to install the DHD exploitable Rom again. Will see how it ends up. If it bricks, still got my desire for use hh.

I still think this one is a hard one 2 get.

Gl with the rooting hope u get there before me! The sooner the better!

Greets
[HTC Incredible S] Bantu85:
yea i downloaded the WWE Radio file... haven't placed on my phone yet though... worried it will autoflash whenever i enter bootloader :P

I;m not that keen on bricking as it's back to my htc hero then.. good phone.. but not the same :(
[HTC Incredible S] vido.ardes:
Found an interesting page, quite details explanation of permarooting the G2 & DHD, thought others could pick through it too:

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
I tried the gfree method before, I will give it another try this evening. I'll get the error logs and every info I can acquire, so the pro's hopefully can help. And maybe we don't need it, but I think we will XD

Btw according to the link u gave, our radio is exploitable, so I'm putting some effort in this one, maybe t ill try to contact scotty2 if he got any advice.

Tnx lost, I lost that link before, tnx for bringing it back!

Greets
[HTC Incredible S] vido.ardes:
I'll take a crack at it as well, hopefully we can get somewhere with it!. drop me a PM if you wanna hook up over IM or IRC this evening if you wanna bounce anything off me (or vice versa)
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
Great session last evening, not rooted yet since the default exploit is fixed. But hell I learned a lot. Currently its time to debug some more for different exploits.

Downgrading to DHD Rom is not possible. At least not through the default methods.

Keep you posted on the further process.
[HTC Incredible S] hellejoep:
Great

Keep us posted on the progress. Cheers guys!:D
[HTC Incredible S] bernlim:
Good to see there are people working on this! Hope to hear good news soon!
[HTC Incredible S] Bantu85:
Hi guys,

I should have more time to help out this week if there's anything you need... while rooting experience is low... keeness to experiment is high :D

Let me know.
[HTC Incredible S] Hawkysoft:
with the temp root, can you get su?

and erhm idk if someone dares or allready tried....

but.... old g2 root method...

and what about downgrading? xD

some sh*t about su with the new sense is here....
[HTC Incredible S] Bantu85:
Temp root via psneuter has been succesfull in getting us su. The problem is that the system partition seems to be locked.. so we have no write access to it at all, even with su.

I think l0st and timb0 have experimented with the g2 method and i'm not sure if we have a dev rom to downgrade to at this time.
[HTC Incredible S] lge73:
I updated my WEE phone to Asian 1.38.707.1 rom, now i m cannot downgrade to 1.36.405.1!

After u obtain su, tried:

/data/local/tmp/misc_version -s 1.35.405.1

this help to reflash WWE europe RUU?
[HTC Incredible S] doctorsax:
I've got a fairly powerful computer sitting idle at home most of the time, if you wanted some extra CPU time to help out... would there be a possibility of setting up some kind of distribution to speed this up?
[HTC Incredible S] kylechen:
With latest qual core cpu, running 24*7, RSA512 will take about 2-3 month to crack.
[HTC Incredible S] beatlesfan01:
Well that's better than never.

Sent from Incredible 2 and XDA Premium
[HTC Incredible S] Malooga:
I've only got a desire s but as far as i know apart from the cam and the bigger screen on the IS its the same phone, a shop near me can't s off my phone but he says he can give me permanent root. Is it worth having without the s off?

Sorry for posting in here but no bugger ever seems to go in the desire s forum :(
[HTC Incredible S] jcase:
He can't give you perm root without s-off, as s-on prevents you from writing to system

Sent from my HTC Incredible HD Z
[HTC Incredible S] Malooga:
So if he gives me root with this box that aint an xtc clip, that will give me s off too?
[HTC Incredible S] jcase:
You can't write to system, kernel or recovery partitions without s-off.

Sent from my LG Revolution
[HTC Incredible S] doctorsax:
Sounds like he's talking rubbish just to get some money out of you.
[HTC Incredible S] bag03s_666:
found this trick to create a gold card >>>w w w.htc-support.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=16389[/url]

don't if this could be useful

not tested yet
[HTC Incredible S] vontdeux:
goldcard != root
[HTC Incredible S] bag03s_666:
well, i tot the xtc clip is to make a goldcard :)

when the goldcard is ready it's possible to get a S-OFF

CMIIW
[HTC Incredible S] vontdeux:
then i suggest you read all about goldcard, s-off, s-on, root, what each of them really is.
[HTC Incredible S] brokenworm:
LOL Your too late about keeping it safe..

Sry
[HTC Incredible S] lge73:
It is any porgress in s off ing procedure?
[HTC Incredible S] ShyamSasi:
After reading through this thread what I think is even if we get the device rooted we are going to wait till Sensation ???

Any who since there is no root (S-OFF) I'm kind of reluctant to get this phone. I know the developers are working their a** of to get this work, I'm myself a developer but on Windows (.NET 4.0) and I don't want be "the guy" that keep on annoying but just would like to know if root would come any time soon. I'm spending a good amount on this phone and can't enjoy the all the features is kind of sad. XTC clips are not available in India yet. Even if I found one it's too expensive.

Thanks :)
[HTC Incredible S] jjdoctor:
Comeon guys. if you are waiting for sensation then its too far. You will find new exploits. Who knows htc will change its security in sensation? You think it will be exactly the same as incredible s?
[HTC Incredible S] jcase:
Sensation will be a harder root than inc s

Sent from my LG Revolution
[HTC Incredible S] nikant:
Truth is there are lot of people waiting for s-off procedure because for various reasons can't buy/find a xtc clip..

But let's wait and see if bin4ry has any news..
[HTC Incredible S] juzz86:
The pretty ones always are...
[HTC Incredible S] CamoGeko:
Didn't take to long for Desire HD to be opened up like a pretty flower lol ;)
[HTC Incredible S] Bin4ry:
Hell no, you guys again got me wrong.

I HAVE NOT FOUND ANY EXPLOIT IN THE IMPLEMENTATION!

I just said that in the case i find one, i don't want to make it opensource until the Sensation is out.

But i'm a little out of ideas atm. I wrote Scotty an EMail, let's see if he has some good ideas. My knowledge of HTC's way of doing is a little limited, since now i just worked on SE devices.

So let's wait for scottys answer, i really hope he bring in some new points&ideas :)

Regards

Bin4ry
[HTC Incredible S] nikant:
Once again thank you for your effort in this.. and hope you have some good news soon..
[HTC Incredible S] crabjoe:
I wouldn't say it's harder, being that no one has been able to get a software S-OFF on the IS.

It's kind of like saying you're kind of pregnant. Either it you are or you aren't. And in the case of the IS, you aren't.

BTW I don't think software S-OFF will happen, within a year, unless someone leaks something from HTC that gives away an exploit.

In the world of Android, months with out a perm root, is like years, and it's already been months.
[HTC Incredible S] Enes_81:
I think we just need to rent a badass server to crack the 512-bit key.