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[EVO 4G General] sgt. slaughter:
I dont see google wanting 2 current dev phones that are supposed to be there current top line ones to be pushed updates to. Esp since one would include differnet hardware in terms of a wimax chip. Yes they still have the nexus one they push updates too upgrade wise but it would be wierd to me to see them sign up for another dev device one thats 4G when there still 2 sides of thought with wimax/lte on the technology. I'd think they wouldn't want 4G dev phone till the battle was over and one form of 4G has taken over as the main one.

Could be totally wrong here though.

But completely besides the point I'd much rather have a phone come here that has the best of the best hardware in it and not something that has been out for about a yr already which is what it will be by the time sprint actually releases the device likely.
[EVO 4G General] freshlysqueezed:
or Qualcomm's dual core snapdragon with the Adreno 220 perhaps?
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
NEXUS 4G < ---- YES please
[EVO 4G General] dec3ption:
Looking forward to the evo3D but by the time it comes out sprint will have screwed me out of my yearly upgrade and ill be stuck waiting til October. :(

Sent from my EVO
[EVO 4G General] LoveisPeace2012:
More likely qualcomm because HTC doesn't have affairs with other processors
[EVO 4G General] DarkManX4lf:
No please.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
haters gonna hate !
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
My upgrade is in nov I guess ill hold out for dual core I'm nor that impressed w/ nexus s nor would I EVER buy a Samsung phone so they can keep it. My evo will do just find until nov. Hopefully by then tegra 2 will be on sprint.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
what's the chances of them making the nexusS a dual core ? highly unlikely im sure but that would rock
[EVO 4G General] krazyflipj:
Not interested unless cyanogen himself supports it

Sent from my CM7 Powered device
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Fool
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
hmmm... evo3d huh? well as long as it has the 4.3" ill be happy. if it's anything like that LG3d phone ill jump and buy one. if this is true count on the evo development to pretty much die off as most devs will jump to that.

im also curious about this nexus 4g. :D
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
meh... i just tried cm7 and it doesn't seem anywhere near as fast as mikfroyo. ill wait for a sense based ginger rom.
[EVO 4G General] DarkManX4lf:
I only say this because of my experience with the epic 4g.....if Samsung was more like HTC in terms of updating I wouldn't hate so much....if the nexus s 4g gets micro SD card slot and cm7-8 I will reconsider :).
[EVO 4G General] ChromeEvo:
I'm excited about this. I hope they really deck the Evo 3D out.
[EVO 4G General] DarkManX4lf:
Unlikely I think it would cost Samsung more to make the dual core and add the wimax chip than to just add the wimax chip.
[EVO 4G General] DarkManX4lf:
Well cm7 is still in RC should be better when final is out.
[EVO 4G General] DarkAudit:
A Nexus S with TouchWiz isn't a Nexus S at all. It's just another crap Samsung phone.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
fully understandable Samsung support blows ass ! but i have a few buddies on T-mobile and the NS has been great for them

SDCARD yea id miss my 32gig class 10 card ! for sure
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
miks roms are a beast ! but CM7 is a whole new monster. id love to see Miks do a AOSP rom
[EVO 4G General] CB620:
A sprint vibrant
[EVO 4G General] CB620:
the nexus is great for t mobile
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
Was just on cm6.2 final that's so much smoother than mikfroyo. Might as well compare froyo to froyo roms
[EVO 4G General] thabet22:
Still these aren't confirmed and we don't know they will actually be real.
[EVO 4G General] shoobshoober:
no need to be a party pooper we all know its not confirmed! but it's another glimmer of hope for us sprint users.
[EVO 4G General] crabjoe:
WiMax uses a 2.5ghz antenna and LTE, on Sprint, will use either an 800, 1900 or an 800/1900mhz antenna. So even if one could update the firmware on the current Wimax chip in the phones, you still can't make the switch to LTE do to the radio hardware.
[EVO 4G General] flopez76:
Doesn't the Nexus get updated first, seeing as how it's a Google developer phone?

Sent From My Command Center... (aka basement)
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Yes.

Androidandme did a series of benchmarks on the Nexus S, Tegra 2 phones, and older HTCs. The Nexus S helds it's own and was still very competitive. If they release a Nexus S with WiMax AND a updated SAMOLED Plus display, I might get it.
[EVO 4G General] DarkManX4lf:
Why the nexus s and not the galaxy s II? The only downside I can see with they galaxy line is never getting a update. The galaxy s II has some nice hardware.
[EVO 4G General] LoveisPeace2012:
I saw that article and it is actually quite amazing what the hummingbird CPU can do with gingerbread. What's with all the Samsung hate the hardware is really superb
[EVO 4G General] LoveisPeace2012:
Just root it what's all the worry about or get the European version its the carriers slowing down the updates not Samsung
[EVO 4G General] Rally187:
evo 3d sounds kool. evo 4g sounded kool too. i wish i had 4g for my evo 4g. I have one eye so do i have to pay for the 3rd dimension?
[EVO 4G General] timothydoanpham:
i don't know why everyone here is assuming that the EVO will be a htc phone. yes i understand and know that both the EVO 4G and EVO Shift 4G were HTC but sprint said that EVO was a line of phone so can't we assume that another company could also make an EVO phone?
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
I understand what you're saying, but I think it would be a poor decision to have the successor to the EVO be made by anyone but HTC, in addition, I think it is crucial that the phone maintain an almost identical form factor. One thing the iPhone has going for it is its consistency, which is great for after market accessories. Best thing here would be for HTC to make the next EVO; hopefully, with more polished hardware.
[EVO 4G General] Android 17:
I'm not sure why anyone would be excited for a Nexus S 4G, it'd more than likely retain the exact same specs as the regular Nexus S, which isn't bad at all, but hardly anything new.

I'm sure a variant of the Galaxy S II, which is a clear improvement, will be available for Sprint later this year.

I would personally like to stick with HTC, but unless the HTC EVO 3D is a dual-core with Adreno 220 and it has a better screen than the generic LCD they put on the EVO, I'll probably have to settle with the Galaxy S II.

I truly don't get why so many people complain about Samsung not updating their phones, while it's absolutely true, do you not realize what site you frequent? I know not all of us root and load custom roms, but the majority of us do, so that point is mostly moot and inconsequential to a large portion of the people who frequent this forum.
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
Depends on what the specs are tbh. it could go either way.

If the 3d evo is just a simple upgrade to the new sense with 3d support, then it's def not worth it. Without a dual core cpu, and a better gpu, then it'll suck.

Same case with the nexus s, if its just a port of the old one with 4g support, then that'll flop as well.

in the best case scenario, both phones will have dual cores. In which case, i'd rather go with samsung (as much as i hate them), just because its AOSP + 3d is a gimmick
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
i see what u mean...

but when the nexus s was not HTC.. i think it lost something.

so .. what maker do you want it to be? I sure hope they are smart enough to keep it away from Samsung!
[EVO 4G General] herbthehammer:
Maybe the 3d is a marketing buzzword instead of literally. Remember back in the day when 2d and 3d video cards were separate in computers? Maybe that is something similar to what they are calling 3d on the phones.

If it is literally 3d, then I want it to be the kind of 3d that you need glasses like they had in the movie They Live. That way I could also see the alien imposters and the subliminal **** on TV and government reprogramming propaganda on signs and billboards.

As for the root then run another rom suggestion... There might be a small percentage of us, including myself, that like to run stock rooted. That might go against the idea behind xda but that's just my preference. I'm not saying the rom you like to run is bad, its just the one you prefer. We can coexist. Not the aliens though, I say we toss them out on their asses!
[EVO 4G General] Vegasrich:
Am I wrong, but when I do the quadrant test the nexus seems to be the phone to beat. Hardware is huge but it seems like the nexus would be at least faster than the Evo out of the box. And with the developers on this site ...wow
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
I understand your point here. However, most of the custom ROMs for say the epic 4G are based off of beta builds from samsung. I have run many of these ROMs on my wifes phone and she has run into many bugs & issues. I can't help but to think these ROMs would be more stable if Samsung would in fact release an stable build of their own. Now AOSP is a completely different story and I understand that CM (my personal fave) is built from the ground up, independent of manufactures. Unfortunately, there is little support for the Epic 4G from CM.
[EVO 4G General] abanh:
There's a good chance the Evo3d could be the LG optimus 3d, and the specs on that phone look pretty great. Optimus 3d has the TI OMAP 4000 series (dual core cortex A9, similar to the cpu in Tegra 2, and the gpu is the one found in the Hummingbird from Samsung but clocked 50% faster) and a 4.3 inch screen. LG can also produce a much nicer screen than HTC as they actually produce screens.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I was thinking this too. I'd definitely get the Nexus S 4G if that were the case. I just don't see a LG phone getting that much support.
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
I really think the nexus is coming :-( I hope we get an Evo 2 as well

http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...e-is-coming-soon/&category=classic&postPage=1
[EVO 4G General] timothydoanpham:
which is why i said why do we assume all EVO's will be made my HTC. They make great phones but their screens are sometime lacking.
[EVO 4G General] Crossrocker:
I would rather get the LG phone

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
EVO is trademark of HTC as far as I know so I don't think they would let moto or samsung use it
[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
No the "EVO" name is a trademark of Sprint. Just as Droid is Verizon's. That was a question I had asked when the EVO Shift released.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
look at the huge amount of options in the EVO development forum compared to EPIC's.

this is because htc.. releases their code faster
[EVO 4G General] Crossrocker:
Correct. Supersonic is htc's name

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
huge diff between nexus s and epic. Epic was produced and maintained by samsung alone. The nexus s was produced and maintained by google. Samsung was just the manufacturer of it. Google gave the specs/details/etc.. to samsung, and they made it.

Hence why if the spec's are the same for the phones, and the only diff is 3d, the Nexus s would be a better choice just because its AOSP
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
well.. i just looked at nexus S development forum...

not a big active area.. hope it gets more movement.. to help prove your point.
[EVO 4G General] DarkAudit:
And if the rumors are true that they plan on dunking the Nexus S in a big 'ol vat of TouchWiz before giving it to Sprint, then what's the point?
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Wait what? The rumor has a rumor already? The rumor of the Nexus S coming to Sprint was released a few hours ago, how could the rumor have a rumor that it will run TouchWiz?
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
active area? i see bunch of kernels, roms, and rooting guides. Don't think they need anything else.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
yes.. if that is all you need.. then there u go.

by that argument... everyone would get a civic.. 4 wheels.. a to b... and a good motor.

since you are in an EVO general forum.. then you must have an evo... right?

you have visited the development forum.. right? seen all the flavors.. the extras... the mods.. the added options.. and it keeps growing and changing.

then.. you also have the themes forum for evo...

so much to choose.. where to start?
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
I'm going to be thoroughly disappointed if it is the nexus s and it still doesn't have an sd card slot. I for one was actually looking forward to a 3D Evo cause there's not a chance I'm going to be buying a crippled nexus s.
[EVO 4G General] Overstew:
I'm hearing mixed messages about the Nexus S.

Some speculation supports the fact that it will indeed by a Dual-Core phone, to keep up with competition and that it's such a nice phone under Google's name...It wouldn't be right for Sprint to not make it dual-core. Who would want the Nexus S if it's behind everything else, spec wise?

Others say that it will be an exact Nexus S, with CDMA implemented, not GSM based. And it will support Sprint's WiMax network (aka 4G). This means no Dual-Core processor.

As far as the Evo 3D goes, I'm quite interested in it if it's a Dual-Core phone. I couldn't care less about 3D, it's a give or take, but I do hope that if Sprint converts to LTE anytime in the future, that th 4G chips in both phones will be able to run LTE.
[EVO 4G General] spider415:
HTC evo 3d sounds like such a battery killer
[EVO 4G General] Overstew:
The Evo or Evo 3d?

The Evo 3D sould have better Battery life, only considering it would come with a dual-core processor.

Think of it like this, if you're running a mile at full speed, you become tired quickly, am I correct? If you have two people, jogging half a mile apiece, no one hardly used any energy, yet they still got the same results. (It's the bets analogy I could think of), but it surely demonstrates the effectiveness of dual-core as all of the computing is shared among two processors, instead of one.
[EVO 4G General] FoxRacR17:
Yeah but now you got two mouths to feed (energy aka battery life) instead of one. I don't see why people think dual core is going to be better on phones? I'm pretty sure that on computers the more cores the more power needed to run that multichip.
[EVO 4G General] Overstew:
I suppose you're right - but I would like to add that the only dual-core phones being released so far come with a stock 1930 MAh battery (Droid Bionic and Atrix). Maybe these dualcore phones will all come with the better battery anyways?

Given our two analogies, it seems like it would probably balance out.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
huh are you looking at the same forum i am ??
[EVO 4G General] spider415:
Yea I meant to say Eco 3D. I understand what you're saying though.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
The dual core LG 2x, or whatever it's called, comes with a 1500 mAh battery and rates around the same battery life as the second gen HTC's and only slightly better than the EVO. If we assume that the EVO 3D is a HTC things gets a little worse. The LG (and Moto) dual core is a Tegra 2 which is a Cortex A9 CPU. The A9 is faster but operates at roughly equal energy consumption of the A8 because of increased efficiency. This generation of HTC dual cores are still based on the Cortex A8 (not as efficient) and are up clocked to 1.2 GHz (even more power draw). I bet that this will lead to poor battery life compared to both Tegra 2 phones and current single core HTC phones - and will probably perform a bit worse too.
[EVO 4G General] acerbusconfig:
The Kyocero Echo announcement should be a lesson in being too optimistic about Sprint.

Skeptical... but it would be nice.
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
Truth but at the same time doesn't mean CTIA is going to be a disappointment the echo wasn't planning to be big device if you notice all the good phones start coming out in summer to compete with the iPhone and that y the evo came out then, so Sprint is getting ready for the time frame
[EVO 4G General] Genjinaro:
If they add anymore they couldn't really call it a Nexus S. Same phone, different radios. Its mean to be uniform across carriers. Thus ensuring the universal update process. This phone plays by Google's rules, not Sammy.

Custom makes are where the Galaxy S II line comes in, customized to each carrier.
[EVO 4G General] halorin:
Until I see what the announcement is, the Echo has severely soured any hopes I could ever muster for an upcoming Sprint phone.
[EVO 4G General] aktion337:
I agree .. I hope they do something drastic or else there is no reason to switch from the EVO I have now :confused:
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
umm,opposite here...increases the chances that Sprint will make major announcements about upcoming COMPETITIVE devices.

They have to.
[EVO 4G General] halorin:
I felt that way when they decided to have David Blaine sit in a fish bowl.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
If they had gotten that Galaxy S 2 instead I probably would've stayed. But that nexus doesnt do anything for me and im not even gonna start on the whole 3D thing.
[EVO 4G General] Shadodragon:
To anyone and everyone saying that the Nexus S 4G is going to have TouchWiz...

Who taught you reading comprehension?!?! You and your teachers need to be smacked into next Tuesday.

Samsung has two devices for Sprint that recently passed the FCC. One (the SPH-D600) has TouchWiz support. The other (SPH-D720)

does not

. The Epic is the SPH-D700... a Galaxy S phone. The Nexus S is a variant of the Galaxy S line. The designation of SPH-D720 fits for such a device.

Engadget even stated the SPH-D720 is most likely the Nexus S 4G because it

doesn't

have TouchWiz support.

LEARN TO READ!
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
looking in the development sections of the nexus s:

here at xda:

the one i am looking at has 74 threads and 13.5k posts... what do you see???

on androidforums:

there is 18 threads and 74 posts..

that is slow!

what do you see???
[EVO 4G General] LoveisPeace2012:
The device has been out for not even three months
[EVO 4G General] r916:
Going to get the evo 3d since most likely it will be dual core and once the is for dual cores comes out (2.4? 2.5?) Its going to be a BA phone.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
yes.. and it levels off at 6 months.. and slows at 10 months.....

evo at 9 months.. is still getting stronger.
[EVO 4G General] sgt. slaughter:
I wanna say the Evo board was booming by that point in time.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
I wanna say I'm still using a stock Rom rooted and all.

So for people who just need root it really won't matter.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
I'm definitely on the anti-samsung bandwagon.

I think the nexus S is different tho since it's a google phone.. still not really interested in getting one over my evo. I will say, the Nexus S is apparently getting excellent battery life... that much is very appealing.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
+1

I need a phone that can match the dev support of the EVO. I would get very bored without all the roms/themes/mods available for my phone.
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
if the "Evo 3D" matches the specs and recent performance tests of the LG Optimus 3D, (Irealize the common 3D tag means nothing! )..I'll be completely content!
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
I'll wait till the specs are released for both phones before deciding if I want to upgrade or keep my Evo. As far as the Nexus S, if the only difference is the 4G, then I think I'll have to pass on that, even though it's a Google branded phone. There's no reason for me to shell out money for a phone that's going to be about 6-8 months old when it is released by Sprint.

The Evo 3D could be interesting if the 3D can be controlled by the user. I would get that phone if it is dual core with a better camera/video and much better screen resolution.
[EVO 4G General] flight01:
I dunno what this 3d thing is about, and dunno if i will like it or not. But im wondering if its gonna be like the new samsung galaxy s 2, 3d effect. The new touchwiz 3.0 UX ui is supposed to have a 3d effect to it. So it looks like in the case of the galaxy s2 it's really just gonna be touchwiz widgets and stuff that have a 3d effect. So if the evo 3d is gonna really just be new sense ui with 3d effects to it, that might be cool.

Anyone else have an opinion? Having the new evo not really be 3d but it have a 3d ish sense ui.
[EVO 4G General] LoveisPeace2012:
Don't get me wrong I love the evo community its one of the reasons I switched back from the epic, but what I truly want is an awesome device hardware wise, with a great community. I'm not a Samsung fanboy nor an HTC fanboy I could care less who makes it as long as there's dev support and sicc hardware. Let's be real the evos hardware is truly anemic I love my evo but when I had the epic the hardware blew me away unfortunately there's little to no support
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
like i have said over and over..

samy makes great spec phones.. on paper they are king. and benmarks very well. that is where it ends.

history has proven this time and time again.

all the phones that have great dev support.. have not been sammy.

moto and htc has had these spotlights.. with htc doing a little better.

just go to the main page with phones being listed and looking at the activity... there is a pattern. see if you can see it.
[EVO 4G General] SilverNBlack81:
god just have a better spec evo with better battery life, perfect.
[EVO 4G General] crabjoe:
You mean they design superb hardware. I say this because it seems when then actually build them, there's issues as in the GPS.
[EVO 4G General] crabjoe:
The issue is that Sprint doesn't own the EVO name, it's owned by HTC. So unless Sprint were to license EVO from HTC, all EVO phones/tablets will be HTC.
[EVO 4G General] hooover:
Very debatable...Sprint does own the "Evo 4g" name while HTC owns the title "Supersonic"

My contracts up after 2 years and I was considering a Windows phone until I seen this. I hope Sprint does step it up soon or I may be heading to Verizon.
[EVO 4G General] crabjoe:
HTC owns EVO. Verizon Doesn't own DROID, they license it from Lucus Films. For Sprint to use EVO on anything other then a HTC product, Sprint would need to license it from HTC and I doubt HTC would allow any other brand of phone to be called EVO.
[EVO 4G General] LoveisPeace2012:
I know this my first Android was a nexus one then evo I know HTC has the best support. All I'm saying is there hardware isn't all that. I'm not trying to take sides in the end they are all companies after our money. However the I9000 has excellent support like I said if they improve the evos specs to compete with the atrix, sg2 ill gladly choose the new evo
[EVO 4G General] crabjoe:
True, but the new processors eat less energy and pump out more per the energy it consumes.

It's like comparing a 1980 Corvette to a 2011 Corvette. The new Vette goes faster and has a lot more muscle while using less gas compared to the 1980 Vette.
[EVO 4G General] crabjoe:
Sprint doesn't own EVO anything... It's the same with the EVO Shift, it was trademarked by HTC.
[EVO 4G General] LoveisPeace2012:
So atleast we can confirm that this new evo will indeed be HTC?
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
I dont care what anyone says, Id take that Galaxy S 2 over any phone ive seen advertised right about now.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
nah... that lg 3d will kill any samsung. although i will say the epic is much faster than our evo's, even stock.
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
uh-oh

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2031842/lg-optimus-3d-phone-impressions
[EVO 4G General] LoveisPeace2012:
How do you figure they aren't even out yet, plus they did some benchmarks and the optimus 3d came out on top but the exynos probably does not have final drivers yet for its hardware not to mention the new Mali 400 chip its using is a quad core gpu
[EVO 4G General] popular nobody:
You're correct, which is why I didn't understand people thinking it's the LG phone. HTC did run it by Sprint, informing them that Japan's KDDI wants to license the "EVO", as courtesy. It's also another WiMax carrier, which Sprint is cool with. Think both are in the same alliance, including the push for td-lte.