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[HTC Incredible S] efaden:
Why not use BOINC or E2C or something like that? If we used BOINC or something similar we could each put up a computer and brute force it.
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
It's a 2k key... Gl on that one ;)
[HTC Incredible S] efaden:
Someone had said it was 512.... 512 is doable... 2k... not a chance.
[HTC Incredible S] Hawkysoft:
2k for sure, wish it would be 512
[HTC Incredible S] matt95:
will it be rooted? i don't know if i should buy the HD or the incredible s...tell me if it will be possible...tnx
[HTC Incredible S] vaothien:
IF an exploit is found, it may be possible to root the device.

To date, however, no exploit has been found so the device can not be rooted (without XTC Clip).

Nobody knows, if and when it will be possible to root the IS.
[HTC Incredible S] CamoGeko:
Go for desire HD if you want to customise right now. If you don't mind waiting for few months indefinitely then go for IS. Simple as that.

I had both and can say that the IS is a very sexy phone, even without the rooting and flashing abilities.

Oh and it will get Gingerbread soon anyways.
[HTC Incredible S] madmaxx82:
I'd never buy another phone simply because the IS isn't able to be "rooted" by software exploits yet. Just get an XTC Clip, or someone who owns one and you are done. That's been said numerous times. I don't understand the hysteria. And as everyone can see there are already some very nice custom roms available.
[HTC Incredible S] matt95:
the IS has a better screen...but the rest is the same...the HD will receive the same sense as the S series ,right?
[HTC Incredible S] Dr34mc4tch3r:
Yes, I already received the official 2.3.3 + 2.1 sense on Incredible S, same as my friend with desire HD
[HTC Incredible S] matt95:
allright..i'll go for the HD then...tnx a lot men!good luck for the root ;)
[HTC Incredible S] damnoregonian:
well, the desire hd was opened up simply because we were lucky the g2 root happened to work for it. they were in the same boat as you before that.

and we spent 2 months, some of us pulling 18 hour days between work and looking for holes before we rooted that thing.

there is no group of people with the expertise and/or time working on this phone.

i don't like to measure roots in terms of 'hardness',

it's simply a matter of developer time.

i'm answering questions for bin4ry, and he seems to know his stuff, so i'd work with the guy. being without a phone, my ability to help is limited, but i am always available to answer questions to anybody seeking to find root for this guy. my email/twitter/whatever can be found with a little looking.

scotty2
[HTC Incredible S] kylechen:
is there any possibility that we could pick up a screw driver and physically destroy the bloody protection chip on the phone motherboard?

its so unacceptable that we can't modify any system thing on our own phone^and its called "smart phone" and "open source".
[HTC Incredible S] efaden:
Considering it is a part of the boot loader I don't think it's a chip you could destroy without also destroying the phone.
[HTC Incredible S] CamoGeko:
To all people that are moaning about not being able to root your IS. Only google software is open source, since HTC has put their own footprint on their phones they do have to protect it. Honestly did you not expect this when you bought it?
[HTC Incredible S] TheEscapist:
Random thoughts today. Since there has to be some sort of way for the nand to see whether its locked, the value has to be stored somewhere, in some sort of register. This most likely is somewhere in the bootloader. If we ripped out the bootloader, and disassemble it, its possible that we could find the register and write the "unlock" value to it. If it has to been done during booting (ie, you can only write to the register once per boot), then it may be possible to modify the bootloader via a hex editor.

Also, updates. They must have a way to write to nand. Not sure how they would signify that to the bootloader though.

Of course, I could be totally just rambling here. :p
[HTC Incredible S] Dster:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_key_encryption
[HTC Incredible S] billquinn1:
The G2 root was fun to follow on irc. My money was on you going into a coma before you got it. Great fun all the same. Maybe scotty2 just needs a shiny new phone and 1200 bucks or so and we'll be all set.

You da man....

Note. I'll fix my sig later... DI2 and loving it root or no.
[HTC Incredible S] deficitism:
If only it were as easy as changing a "1" to a "0" and flashing an image. The bootloader is not writable. If you were to try to feed the phone a modified bootloader, it would reject it as its not signed by HTC. If you were able to trick it somehow and get it flashed, the phone would enter panic mode and refuse to boot. The reason HTC updates can write whatever the f they want is because they are signed by HTC. Trusted firmware.

You can't modify signed firmware, as it breaks the signature.

You can't flash unsigned firmware, as the phone accepts only trusted firmware.

The above is not the case if you can set the 's-off' flag.

As of right now, you can't set the 's-off' flag without an htc signed vulnerable firmware pack. (or with hardware) Or hopefully a new exploit.

See what HTC did there?
[HTC Incredible S] TheEscapist:
Ok, this makes sense. I didn't think of the signatures.
[HTC Incredible S] DuoM:
The signatures are the whole problem.
[HTC Incredible S] Hawkysoft:
ok serious stop posting useless **** in here... it annoys everyone the fk out...

if you got information regarding rooting the device, and did you read everything that has been done and info that has been supplied please and i repeat please post than.. else DONT
[HTC Incredible S] knightrocker:
Seriously guys he has got a point ... Its getting really annoying ... Please open a thread in the general and chat all you want ... Just leave this thread clean for the devs ... Please dont take it in a bad way but it really is annoying :P
[HTC Incredible S] xd.bx:
Depends on what you flash, AMSS on the G2 was not sigchecked. Is HBOOT sigchecked by the latest OEMSBL of the Incredible S? I don't know.

In any case, bypassing the NAND lock may well require a vuln in PBL/QCSBL/OEMSBL/HBOOT.
[HTC Incredible S] jcase:
Hboot is not Sig checked on incS/inc2. Hboot checks recovery and kernel sigs.

Sent from my LG Revolution
[HTC Incredible S] arpit85:
is it possible to root this device using gingerbreak app?
[HTC Incredible S] jkolner:
Once again, you must have S-OFF with the xtc-clips first, befor you can root your phone.

Read this guide.
[HTC Incredible S] TimMun:
Just read the first post; best of luck to all of those working hard to get our phones s-off! Can't wait to be using sense 3.0! ;)
[HTC Incredible S] jjdoctor:
Come on guys... Screw up this security hole. That's the only reason I am not buying this set.

Fu*k you HTC... You are not getting customers buy loosing them badly. I am buying motorola atrix if unlock didn't release in a month
[HTC Incredible S] CamoGeko:
Atrix devs aren't having much luck either. At least we have a ported recovery which means we can flash roms but the bootloader is still locked.
[HTC Incredible S] jjdoctor:
I don't get it. We have ported recovery? You mean we can install all custom roms but aren't able to enter root right?
[HTC Incredible S] mcfar45:
As far as I am aware (from reading every post in teh thread so far in one go) you are not able to install any custom roms unless you are lucky enough to have an S-OFF phone...just be patient and wait until they find an exploit for S-ON phones!
[HTC Incredible S] CamoGeko:
We are able to flash theme roms (there is only 3 available anyway). It is only possible to flash these p-roms if you have a specific firmware. Also root is possible and so is changing radio's.

So far though there has been no exploit found that will allow the S-Off flag to be set. So there is no chance of custom kernels or anything else.

Motorola said they won't be unlocking bootloaders till end of the year anyway.
[HTC Incredible S] CamoGeko:
Double post.
[HTC Incredible S] Hawkysoft:
@geko95gek, please do your research before you post this kinda stuff

YOU NEED S-OFF FOR ROOT

NO YOU CAN NOT FLASH A DIFF ROM WITHOUT S-OFF

NO YOU CAN NOT FLASH A DIFF RECOVERY WITHOUT S-OFF

end of discussion....

I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR A POSSIBLE BRICK NOR DAMAGE CAUSED BY THIS!

now heres my idea, and anyone can test that who feels like it...

hboot isnt been checked, so that can be replaced for eng-hboot (but idk how you would install it tho..) perhaps temproot, than push the mofo trough ;)

with the eng-hboot we could be capable to install pre-rooted roms that arent signed

now we need someone to test this ;) since i allready have an s-off i cant help you testing...

if this wont work sorry im out of ideas by than

I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR A POSSIBLE BRICK NOR DAMAGE CAUSED BY THIS!
[HTC Incredible S] vontdeux:
dude...hehe..you made me laugh..thats a misunderstanding right there..

geko is talking about atrix..
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
@hawky: for the incs: pushing the eng-hboot has no use ;) since its also locked, already tried that one haha. And for atrix, no idea, dont have one.

Currently quite a few are busy with it (see the verizon droid inc 2 forum) and also our great guys bin4ry & scotty are also on the team. Its just very hard to get trough, but they will make it.

So if you want updates you should take a look over there, but when they have something new that should/could/must work it will be posted here!
[HTC Incredible S] Hawkysoft:
Hmm heared hboot isnt checked for signatures ah well..
[HTC Incredible S] CamoGeko:
Exactly right ;)

Hawkysoft: Don't blow your brains out mate, too much steam is coming from your head lol. I wasn't even talking about the IS and anyway I was answering someone else's question.

:rolleyes:
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
Correct, but that doesn't make it writable. Signcheck checks @boot (which IS doesn't), the emmc/nand lock just makes the bootloader partition unwriteable.
[HTC Incredible S] Hawkysoft:
No steam here mate just thinkin of 1000 and 1 things at the same time ;)

@timmy, well end of soff thoughts at this side atm
[HTC Incredible S] robkano:
HTC Reveiwing locked bootloaders

http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084 :o
[HTC Incredible S] sabret00the:
Hopefully it will mean they unlock existing phones.
[HTC Incredible S] CamoGeko:
Hopefully, either way I think we should all sign this:

[URL="http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/]Unlock our bootloaders[/URL]

Even though knowing HTC, they won't do anything until it gets to like a million and 1 signatures.
[HTC Incredible S] luca2006:
already signed, hope that HTC change policy, may be newer phone stay blocked untill new release

what do u think?
[HTC Incredible S] ViperGeek:
HTC Yields!

Did you guys see this?

I can't post the URL because I'm too much of a newbie, but if you look for the 2011-05/26 blog post on Engadget.com entitled, "HTC officially dissolves locked bootloader policy", I think you'll be happy.

- Dave
[HTC Incredible S] DoeBoi:
awesome news, now i wonder if they'll unlock boothloaders for currently locked devices like the incredible s and desire s...

http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
[HTC Incredible S] efaden:
So, it has yet to be seen if this will be for new phones or will also include us Inc 2/S people.
[HTC Incredible S] ViperGeek:
Agreed, but this quote from HTC is definitely encouraging:

"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience."

My faith and impression of HTC has been restored.

- Dave
[HTC Incredible S] efaden:
I agree, but it is a tad political with very little "fact". No timeline, information about existing phones, etc.... Still I applaud HTC for at least making a public statement.
[HTC Incredible S] Sharro:
I have a Desire HD, about a month ago I've bought 2 Incredible S for my office coleagues, it was a rush decision to take advantage of a 10% discount, you can't imagine my disappointment with the locked bootloader, I hope that in the future I'm able to customize it but still being capable of returning it to "original" state. I'll keep on following this thread.

All the best,

Sharro
[HTC Incredible S] John Anderton:
Hope we can get our IS' unlocked soon.. I'm hoping HTC will unlock the bootloaders and we will get root on our phones.. if only new phones are unlocked, I for see another ton of users posting on HTC's Facebook page about why they should unlock their old phones too :)
[HTC Incredible S] jjdoctor:
Feedback was mostly from those who had locked devices... I am sure htc will unlock old ones.

Hope its not for grabbing market since sensation was not as popular as samsung GS2. :p
[HTC Incredible S] sabret00the:
Signed it, hopefully they'll listen. Even stated the phone and the region.
[HTC Incredible S] Das_mobile:
Have not seen this mentioned; but there is a user here who claims to have rooted w/superoneclick with S-On

Seems false.

http://android.modaco.com/content/h...35710/incredible-s-is-roooooted/#entry1701910

see post 8
[HTC Incredible S] shrome99:
@l0st.prophet are you and the others still working on software S-OFF ? This thread seems to be dead. I've not seen any progress since the HTC announcement. I don't think we should rely on them for an unlock. IMO they'll only unlock new devices. Even if they do unlock the old devices, it'll probably take months.
[HTC Incredible S] aNdroidnut:
I too am hoping to revive a thread that has seemed to die down
[HTC Incredible S] dhingra_vinay_in:
Relax guys...there r a lot of people waiting for the s-off to be done..devs are working on it...they does not show it that does not mean they are not working on it...so stop cursing...n let them do their work...
[HTC Incredible S] mike1986.:
When temproot will be available it will be possible to freeze some apps which is not exackly the same as deleting but at least frozen app is no longer in the app drawer and system think it's deleted.

adb shell

su

pm list packages - this will show you all installed apps

pm disable <app name> - for example pm disable com.amazon.mp3

reboot

And done :)
[HTC Incredible S] bahaddin:
Is the light
[HTC Incredible S] kin0_:
I thought temproot was already available?
[HTC Incredible S] oyumurtaci:
The old exploits for Froyo still work to a degree, but the temproot is lost on reboot (hence the temp) and Gingerbreak is a hit-and-miss affair on GB after the OTA update. Currently the only permroot solution we have is an XTC clip, and despite the fact that HTC has stated that they will no longer lock their bootloaders, no statement has been made regarding the devices that have already been shipped with locked and encrypted bootloaders. This being the case, temproot on Froyo is currently the only way to get any form of root.
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
Current status:

Temp-root: froyo check (psneuter), gingerbread check (gingerbreak, although can fail sometimes)

Perm-root: see S-off.

S-off: looks like alpharev team has gotten a way through. Have not tested it myself since I'm already S-off

Hardware S-off: xtc-clip

Software S-off: alpharevx, soon to come!

Ok job done. Good job 2 you all!
[HTC Incredible S] Haugrud:
Well isn't that music to everyones ears!
[HTC Incredible S] andi3g:
yes, that sounds good :)

alpharev homepage sais "coming soon".... hope so!
[HTC Incredible S] sethxp:
hmm but alpharevx page say s-off for quite some time, also for wildfire, so its users choice, use clip service or wait for free solution

also there is 3rd hidden door...
[HTC Incredible S] ogxku5h:
updates?

10char/
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
Your done ;)

Well we know for sure s-off trough AlpharevX works, they "just" need to release it to the public.

So same status as before...

And seth has a kind of remote unlock which im not aware of what it is, probably software s-off, But only works for froyo at the moment.

Practicly all kind of methods are aquired: Hardware unlock, Software unlock (not public yet), Rooting methods (froyo = psneuter exploit, Gingerbread = gingerbreak exploit). Nothing left i guess.

One note is that some providers has a protection against gingerbreak, but they can be downgraded to the gingerbread wwe RUU which can be exploited.

I guess this topic can be closed than :) Finaly :D after 3.5 months. Way to go everybody who has worked on it!
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
when it is released to the public =)
[HTC Incredible S] knightrocker:
No one knows yet bro ...they are squeezing out a few bugs in the version of the hack for windows pc ... should come out soon
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
When its ready for public, otherwise when you die, or when the toothfairy comes, your pick...

Sorry for being rude but serious: do you ever read the other posts or are you just trolling here?
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
ahem... let me clarify my comment. it was meant to reply to this sentence (post above mine) --> "I guess this topic can be closed than Finaly after 3.5 months."

so before you go all high and mighty. you might want to think and read well first... seriously... you are a dumbass.
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
My apoligies than, but next time please quote it so there is less chance i'm missing the origin of your reply.

Since words can be misinterpreted when you are thinking a little different than the poster. But dont blame me, since i've seen quite alot posts like this that were ment the way i interpreted it. And thanks for calling me dumbass, second time today (not you but someone else), that all makes me so happy and makes this such an enjoyable life :) (agree i should stop 2)

So again, sorry for insulting you. And no im not high and mighty :) just knowing a little more than the average here ;)
[HTC Incredible S] jkolner:
Remotely S-off your Incredible S?

So what do you think about this thread where a guy offers to set a IncS S-OFF remotley!!!
[HTC Incredible S] sethxp:
You can test on IS yourself, i test till now 3 phones.

Incredible s needs to be on froyo rom 1.36 or downgraded to that version.

Gingerbread not supported

Bells 1.37 not supported because model id error in downgrade process,

So if you run froyo 1.36 or downgradable to 1.36 we can test. My phone with this version was s-offed fine.

Or take alpharevx beta that can co all versions.
[HTC Incredible S] smokestack76:
Lets watch what we say....shall we?

And from what i seen of your post your still a nOOb. And calling names already? Hmm gotta watch more often i guess.....
[HTC Incredible S] Hawkysoft:
*better just remove my commentary this time* ^^
[HTC Incredible S] dianaroelofs:
How can i please get S-ON again, i did alpharevx and now i am on S-OFF but now my simcard doesnt work, i am sorry if i in the wrong place here, but i really need some help to get back on S-ON......pls anyone
[HTC Incredible S] vido.ardes:
At the moment there is no way to get S-ON regardless of whether you used AlphaRev or XTC Clip. Have you tried another simcard in the phone?
[HTC Incredible S] dianaroelofs:
No not yet, but after 15 -20 minutes my simcard started working again.......! How can this happen
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
maybe you just lost your signal
[HTC Incredible S] dianaroelofs:
i got into hboot again, and lost my signal again, and now its saying that i put in a new simcard, this is strange, it never asked for this, only when i got my htc
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
as posted on a different thread, do you have your back cover placed?
[HTC Incredible S] 08123369698:
you can try to flash to another Official ROM,i have been tried to get S-OFF in optus ROM and when i flash back to Virgin ROM(i used virgin ROM before) i got s-on again.

sorry for my english
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
Before flashing another ROM did you update your radio?
[HTC Incredible S] grigi:
buttons off

Great work boys :)

S-OFF successful flash new rom too successful.

BUT! The buttons stop shine :( and it isnt good in night.

Somebody have solution for my problem?

Thanks for reply
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
did you install any custom rom?
[HTC Incredible S] twics:
Thanks

Mannaged to S-off and get root, thanks to Alpharev and all involved havnt installed a custom rom yet though.
[HTC Incredible S] doublecheese:
I think it`s due to a Custom ROM you flashed after becoming S-OFF .

I have been S-OFF since April thanks to XTC Clip , but as far as I know all the Custom roms had a problems with the hardware lights by then.

That`s the reason I never flashed custom roms on my IS .

Just flash an Original HTC rom and the problem will be over with lights.
[HTC Incredible S] dianaroelofs:
No i didnt yesterday, but after a while i put it back on, is this the problem? I am ashamed, i didnt read this, i am so sorry.:cool:
[HTC Incredible S] twics:
Yea I noticed that there seems to be alot of bugs on some of the Inc S custom roms thats why im still running stock rom for now, I guess there was'nt much of us able to flash and give feedback to the dev's for fix's. this should soon change as more and more of us get root.
[HTC Incredible S] Legsmaniac:
I've installed the CoreDroid ROM and there's no lights on my buttons. Further research told me it's because they use Sense v3 in the software and the Incredible S doesn't support v3, only 2.1 hence no button lights. This will be the same for CyanogenMod apparently.

Wonder why I bothered rooting now. :(
[HTC Incredible S] vido.ardes:
Please stop spreadign misinformation

The backlights Issue has nothign to do with Sense 3.0 or CyanogenMod. The kernel for the IS and the framwork in the IS ROM has extra code to make the hardware backlights rotate. The Sense 3.0 ROM and 3.0 Addditions to 2.1 ROM's has been ported from other devices, and therefore don't contain the copde neccessary to make the lights work. Once someone succefully works out how to port that code to these new ROM's they will work fine.

The lights work fine in CM, I don't know where this lie has come from but it is

not true
[HTC Incredible S] Legsmaniac:
Apologies.

Was only repeating what I read on the 'web. :rolleyes:

Glad to read it's not true and looking forward to working lights. :)

I totally new to this rooting and ROM malarky so I rely on what I read on the web.
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
i think that's the case, there are metal things in the back cover tht needs to be connected to the body of the phone.
[HTC Incredible S] knightrocker:
Those metal things are the antena ... The incS has external ... So if u take the back cover off its bye bye signal :)
[HTC Incredible S] toots9900:
AlphaRevXed my phone yesterday(still Froyo 2.2.1,bought sim-free,unlocked),worked a treat,phone still the same as before,but rooted.ADB pushed system font replacements-that's all i wanted,been waiting for this,now got just what i had been waiting for.:)
[HTC Incredible S] dr.pythagora:
Hi all,

I have rooted my htc incredible s - thanks to those talented people who made possible it for us.

As an oldtime linux user (but quite new with android), I am looking to configure my device: starting with shell, start-up applicatins, clean the device from unwanted (operator) appls, etc.

One question, to start:

when I try to copy, fort example a bash shell executable in /system/bin, the device says: "read only filesystem".

Is this the reality with HTC IS, or there is any trcik how to make the filesystem rw?

Thanks for any help.
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
You can boot the phone into recovery mode and then mount the /system partition as RW.
[HTC Incredible S] chok_thewa:
remount rw

?