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[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Ooh, let me try.

Fact, Android is on over 160 devices worldwide

Fact, WP7 is on 10

Fact, iOS is on I believe 10 (including all versions of the iphone, itouch, and ipad)

What I pull from this, the vast majority may enjoy the easy girl that gives it up for everyone. I for one prefer to wait it out for a higher quality and much more attractive girl.
[Windows Phone 7 General] darkwater13:
The fact of the matter is, some people like choice. Android is selling because of this; because you can have a device with a hardware keyboard, or an 8MP camera, or a larger/smaller screen, or many other combinations. iPhone are only making their own phones, which means you have basically no choices. except "can I afford the newer one?" and WP7 isn't letting all the manufacturers customise the OS, so it's not going to get as much support in my opinion.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
If I actually worked on an OS (e.g. not haphazardly throwing icons in a blender and seeing what they look like in the end result) then I wouldn't want it open source either. I don't think Microsoft is out for world domination in the cellphone market they just want their piece of the pie and they've released an OS more than powerful enough to do it. The only problem is everyone is so fixated on their own OS that they wont give it a try. I was an android fanboy til I accidentally stumbled upon WP7. Now I couldn't be happier.
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
I have had all 3 I reckon they are both better than iOS, but at this stage I still like android better once a couple of updates have come to wp7 as well as more apps I think it would be cool.

I had windows 7 on the htc hd7 which was awesome iphones are just boring I think.

Go htc desire and android for now :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] PieOfJustice:
WP7 OS. Maybe I was a little over on that. Still quarter of a year is absurd. An we still haven't seen anything. Thus my half a year statement.
[Windows Phone 7 General] zukа:
Just to put my opinion out there, the reason I switched my primary phone to WP7 was because I was sick of waiting for my Froyo update for my Android device. I was encouraged by Microsoft managing the updates, and by MS themselves saying how frequent it would be.

Six months on, there's no copy and paste. For a lot of people, there's no update BEFORE the copy and paste update.

So I'm back on Android.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
I'd have to rate the iPhone as the top dog for now. WP7 is sweet, but it's buggy and featureless at the moment. The best part of WP7 is the gaming side. It has the best simplistic and casual style games of the 3 systems. But the iPhone is a superb piece of craftsmanship. It works flawlessly and is fluidly smooth. It isn't as smooth as WP7, but it is close enough that all of the other pluses puts it in first. Android does some things better than the iPhone and can be smooth, but is too fragmented to be at the top.

The Android market is the best of all 3 systems for ease of use. The iPhone market loses your place quite often and you have to scroll through all of the apps to get to where you were when you back out after installing an app. This happens with WP7 a lot but not as much as the iPhone market. The email system on Android is also better than the iPhone email system. It's easier to select what you want in Android and also managing files is easier than the iPhone. But WP7 has the best email UI of them all.

For quality and reliability:

1 - iPhone

2 - Android

3 - WP7

For smoothness and cleanness:

1 - WP7

2 - iPhone

3 - Android

For gaming fun:

1 - WP7

2 - iPhone

3 - Android

For design and functionality:

1 - iPhone

2 - Android

3 - WP7

For quality of apps:

1 - iPhone

2 - Android

3 - WP7

For user convenience:

1 - Android

2 - WP7

3 - iPhone

For battery life:

1 - iPhone

2 - WP7

3 - Android

For hardware features:

1 - iPhone

2 - Android

3 - WP7

For hardware quality

1 - iPhone

2 - Android

3 - WP7

For the user interface:

1 - WP7

2 - Android

3 - iPhone
[Windows Phone 7 General] robstillholdin:
Funny how people love throwing out how android just has this huge lag problem.......I have been an android user since the original G1. This could be said of sub par devices, but running android 2.3 with a snap dragon processor equals no lag...... Seems like my friends with iphone are swapping them out at the apple store every couple months..... Not to mention no tether? No thanks android over everything
[Windows Phone 7 General] ErikWithNoC:
Actually I believe Android has an upper hand because it is on so many devices. If someone walks into T-Mobile or Sprint and up until recently Verizon they don't really have much of a choice for smartphones. It's either Android or WP7 and T-Mobile hasn't been to nice with WP7. Anybody who thinks it is a MAJOR achievement for Android to be beating the iPhone needs their head examined. Of course Android will be the dominate operating system simply because it has so many more phones with it.

I've never used the Android marketplace so I'm not sure how it works, but you don't lose your spot in the iOS App store anymore. With the version of multitasking they have in place after you install an app and switch back to the app store you will be right where you left off. As for gaming fun I would recommend the iPhone right now simply because it has so many more games that are actually cheaper than WP7 (although WP7 has Xbox Live achievements). Also for user convenience why do you have Android at the top? I always thought WP7/iOS was easier to manage, but I haven't extensively used Android.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
That isn't my experience. In fact, I always lose my spot whenever I install an app. And also, another thing that bugs me is, when selecting "Twenty Five More...", it more times than not puts you at the top of the list rather than at the point of 25 more on.
[Windows Phone 7 General] pasp1001:
FANBOYISM=SELF IMPOSED RETARDENESS...

Many of the folks here are... fanboys...

BLACKBERRY (OPERATING SYSTEM-6) IS SUITABLE REPLACEMENT FOR WINMO

Though, I wouldnt go that far for all the aspects of the os itself!!

Winmo, for me, as a user of FIVE OSes(constantly, 3 years) is still the most intrigued1 and "most smart1"! I find winmo6.5 with customization and right tweaking, the most effective for average joe...

Regarding wp7, i own a LG-OPTIMUS7 for 2.5 months now, and dont understand "what the author intentions are" cause this os(like some1 mentioned on a scale 0-10 would get -2) in other words, 1 might say- ISNT A OS AT-ALL, just a cool PICTURE-FRAME..

Really, what that wp7 developing team was(is) doing, beats any common logic!! Why was so much omitted from start- is beyond belief!!

Its 2011 now(early working on wp7 began in summer 2008 or even earlier), and any excuses on todays smartphone market for such big misses r as we can all see, sanctioned by the consumers!

Peoplez aint buyin wp7 phones-in simple words!!

MICROSOFT IS THE BIGGEST SOFTWARE DEVELOPER-CREATOR IN THE WORLD, AND WILL BE PROBABLY FOR DECADES TO COME...

So, no excuses there-this aint some chinese s/ware company here

WP7 has some good points, but,than-again,we all expect only the best from MS..

BROWSER

is maybe the best on a mobile device, if u JUST SURF, and dont require ANYTHING ELSE, without flash,html5-which is coming, and any other socket or api support, at the moment..

OFFICE SUPPORT aint bad, CORE OS STABILITY is good,not great, but good...better than winmo,andro and iOs!! BB-is a world of itself...

Some other pluses mentioned by the users and "fanboys" are also good points!!

To SUM it up-(to the creator of this thread- which asks for replacement of his winmo device)

IF U MUST-

BLACKBERRY OS6- CAN DO MOST OF WINMO STUFF IN A SIMILAR, SOMETIMES BETTER WAY!! OS-COOKING IS SIMILAR ALSO-WITH HYBRID OS-ES, AND MANY OF THE APPS FEEL SIMILAR TOO...

WP7-DEVICES ARE, LIKE THEIR COMMERCIALS SAY- FOR POPPING IN AND OUT-

IF U DONT WANNA BE BOTHERED BY UR GOOD LOOKING PHONE MORE THAN 10MINUTES A DAY- ITS AN EXCELLENT (BEST) CHOICE

iOS IS GOOD FOR GAMES,SKYPE(AND SIMILARS),FEELING EMPTY,MULTIMEDIA, AND THE FACT THAT- THERES AN APP FOR THAT..

ANDRO- STILL HAS SOME LEARNING TO DO...

SO, if u needn't change ur device, dont do it!! Or buy the more of the same... Like i said, winmo 6.5 is still has a -good thing goin on-

I didnt write about iOS and ANDRO cause it'd take me hours, and this is a wp7-thread

PS- my post count says it all- RESPECT IT...

PS2- YES, I KNOW, APPLE STARTED THE FANBOY-ISM THING AND STEVIE BOY JOBS! And i also know that many here JUST ACT FANBOY, thinkin ITS KKKOOOLLL
[Windows Phone 7 General] mKTank:
Let go of that shift button.

Sent from my Samsung Focus using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 General] ErikWithNoC:
Hmm thats weird, things have been working great for me so far. When you install an app and go back to the app store are you like in a completely different place? Not sure what you mean by the "25 more" thing. When I select 25 more I just wait for it to load and keep scrolling.

Hahahaha xD
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
After I install an app and go back to the app store, it puts me at the top of the list or category I was in. And usually after installing an app, when I select the next 25 apps to scroll, it 90% of the time puts me at the top of the list. I have to scroll a long way down to get to where I was when I selected the "25 more" button. Very annoying. If I don't install anything and just keep scrolling, it usually puts me right there at the beginning segment of "25 more" to scroll.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Whatever floats your boat, get it.

WP7 can't even beat Bada, so it can't rank against the big boys.
[Windows Phone 7 General] markgamber:
I'm totally fed up with WP7 and Microsoft after their admission, after the fact of course, that AT&T blocked their last update and they've made no motion to force AT&T to put the next one through. Like they promised after they bent over for AT&T and went from "All users will be able to get all updates regardless of carrier" to "Well, the carrier will be able to block an update but they won't be able to block the update after that". This is turning into the same do-nothing situation that killed Windows Mobile. The 800 pound gorilla, the behemoth of the software industry, Microsoft, not only can't deliver a competitive mobile system, they can't even deliver a far lesser one in a timely manner, they can't deliver feature updates that might make it competitive in a timely manner and when a carrier says "Jump" they ask "how high?" when they've already in the air. That's half the reason I've totally lost respect for Microsoft's "mobile division" (what they call those two offices and bathroom at the end of the hall in building six when the one isn't being used for storing printer paper). The other half is that Apple HAS been doing all those things for quite some time.

So how would I rank WP7 with any other smartphone on the market? How about this...when I find my $500 Focus which hasn't even been turned on in almost a month and is currently buried under papers somewhere in my office, it's going in the trash as I've already moved onto another platform that actually receives relevent and timely support. Is that clear enough?
[Windows Phone 7 General] ErikWithNoC:
Well that is really weird. I just went to the App Store and downloaded Hulu Plus as a test (Entertainment category, in the second 25 under top free apps). After installing and going back to the app store I was at the same spot (looking at the app) and when I hit the back button I went to the top of the list (maybe this is what your talking about) and when I hit 25 more again it seemed to scroll down (more like jump down) to Hulu Plus. Not sure why your having issues/I'm not having issues.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mKTank:
Welp, your credibility went out the window about 2 sentences in. Adopting a newcomer takes a lot of patience, and that is something you lack.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
I'm shocked... trolling WP7 again with some of the stupidest statements on the forum.
[Windows Phone 7 General] microhaxo:
I LOVE windows phone 7. Jumped ship from android and I've never looked back!

I'm also a developer for wp7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
I'll take mine to the Apple store and let them see what it's doing. If they say it's normal, or if they dare say it isn't doing what they are watching it do, I will return it. But I just got this one a day ago. It is a 32GB iPhone 4 and I had a 16GB. They both do it. The 16GB was doing the exact same thing so I doubt it is hardware related.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ErikWithNoC:
Yeah it shouldn't be hardware. I have a 16GB iPhone 4 running 4.2.1 jailbroken, but I haven't modified anything related to the way multitasking works (except make it look better) or the App Store.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
That must be the difference, somehow. Mine isn't jailbroken.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
I just picked up an iphone and aside from the tiny screen and the unattractive UI I love it. It's no WP7 but I wish I'd had this instead of android all that time. Android is equally cluttered and doesnt function near as well. All that open source can't make up for real quality.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Yeah, the iPhone 4 is a real charmer for me. I also love it. I love holding the glassy thing. Everything works and it syncs effortlessly with iTunes. When I changed out my 16GB for this 32GB, iTunes fully restored all apps and settings automatically and it was basically a no-brain'er. You're gonna love the battery life. It friggin floors me. There are some quirks about how iOS works, though. Like searching in the app store for instance, you have to manually erase the previous search content before inputting new content. The camera is a bit slow to open. Other things I can't think of right now.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Yeah, it'd never be my primary device after WP7 but I'm really regretting everything I said about it when I was an android fanboy. Of course my opinions then were based on a 2g. It has it's flaws but it's got a lot more plus sides than flaws. Too bad the screens so tiny though and I dont really want an ipad.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tachi91:
I've used WP7, Android, iOS, and webOS

They all have their ups and down

iOS has a its APPS even though with my time after a couple games i couldn't find nothing useful in the App Store.. Jailbroken themes! I have an iPhone me! what yours look like? mines two! whats your specs? MINES TWO!

Android has its apps as well and same thing after some games and apps nothing else is useful in the Market.. And it has its choice of themes and layouts

WP7 has a nice UI and its Market of apps is small but it just got out to the public its to soon to start assuming anything with the app store and functions like C&P

webOS is a great OS hands down i'll go with it then any other, if only it had a decent amount of apps... Sure it has apps but i only download Facebook and thats it. Its defined by how easy it is to navigate around it and it has true mutitasking.. Pre+ is the perfect phone to use it on while the Pre3 has a better screen

Me with my HD2 i find myself switching weekly between Android and WP7 i can't stay with just one for a long time..lol

SO

webOS (if good apps) > ALL

for now ill stick with switching between WP7<=>Android

Any OS is perfect with the right Hardware and choices
[Windows Phone 7 General] ErikWithNoC:
I can't help with the screen size, but if you want to make the phone look attractive then I recommend you jailbreak it, learn how to use winterboard, and check out this site: http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/

Theres some beautiful themes on there.

I'm using Buuf Infinity (and a custom wallpaper) right now:

Hmmm that's still strange. I just put my iPhone in safe mode (basically takes the jailbreak off and disables anything related to it) and the app store still works fine for me. Its possible I'm not understanding you correctly.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ErikWithNoC:
EDIT: Could a mod delete this post? I made it on accident =/
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Like, for example, I scroll 1 through 25, then 26 through 50, then 51 through 75 and so forth. I find app #74 that I want to install. After it installs and I go back to the market, once the market loads, it puts me up at app #1 ...the top of the list, rather than at app #74, where I left off.

Then, when I start scrolling through apps again...like 1 - 25, 26 - 50, 51 - 75 and so forth...it puts me at the top of the next segment...like if I go to 26 - 50, it puts me at app #1, then I scroll through the first 25 apps to get to the next segment ...26 - 50. Once I get to app #50, I select 51 - 75, it puts me at app #26. Then I scroll through apps 26 - 50 to get to where I wanted...51 - 75.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ErikWithNoC:
Oh I never went down that far. I will try it in a couple of minutes. I might try out that jailbroken screen recording app.
[Windows Phone 7 General] captobie:
YES! I have that problem too, and it drives me nuts!!! :mad:
[Windows Phone 7 General] scores87:
1 Android

2 Ios

3 WP7

BUT..... by the end of the year WP7 will have most features it is missing so it will be 1 android 2 WP7 3 ios although we dont know what ios 5 is going to be like nor Android 2.4 or 3.5 or 2.5?
[Windows Phone 7 General] iseif:
I tried the three OS.

First, I had an iPhone 3G (I already have an iPod 4) - overall the iOS is a very good OS - it is fast, responds very well - but it is boring!! Also you have just one phone which is expensive and not to forget that after 1-2 years your phone will become OLD and you can not update it with the new OS updates because they won't support it which tell you: "Hey, we happy you had our iPhone, but if you want the new OS then you must buy the new iPhone and get rid from your old junk one". On the other hand, I must admit that they have a very good marketplace.

After about 2 years with the iPhone - in 19.01.2011 I got my first Android phone (the Nexus S) - I used it for about 1 month and it is terrible!! The OS is slow, the marketplace is not safe (I even did not thought to add my credit card) - the market is overflow - about everyday there are new phones, updating the OS is really sucks - you must wait for your phone's brand to let you upgrade your OS (Okay, on my Nexus S I can get the updates directly from Google - but hey, this is not a health business to wait for your phone brand to update your OS).

Finally, about 2 weeks ago, I bought WP7 phone (HD7) - and here, i think that Microsoft were very smart - they learnt the market and then send they OS. They took the advantage of Apple's OS (close and safe OS) and the advantage of Google (too many phones so you can buy whatever you want according to your needs) - and they got a VERY GOOD combination of OS and Phones!!! I really love my WP7 - it is fast, the touch is great and it is very user-friendly!!

But, it has some lacks:

1. MS did not learnt from Apple first mistake - the Copy&Paste issue is Apple's first OS.

2. While MS has apps for Windows Live Messenger in the Apple's AppStore it still does not have any official Messenger app in their OS!!!!!!!! (very strange).

3. The OS still don't fully support the SkyDrive - so I can't get my documents there (only by the IE).

4. About the marketplace, I'm sure it will growth more and more.

5. Languages & Languages - I'm from Israel and I missing Hebrew/Arabic keyboards :(.. Also I can't buy apps from the marketplace they don't accept my credit card.

6. I can't sell my WP7 apps/games because they won't accept my registration because I'm from Israel and they still don't applied to this country.

But overall, the WP7 is the BEST OS I used on any cellular phone. MS did a great job!!!!

Thanks.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ErikWithNoC:
Um really? This seems like a ridiculous statement, no offense. The iPhone 3G still got the recent 4.0 update even though it didn't have all the features and that phone is 2 years old. New phones are coming out with Android all the time and manufacturers don't release updates for their phones (I'm looking at you Samsung). Also Microsoft hasn't been doing to swift with updates as of recently either. Microsoft's partners will be releasing new phones this year and next year and so on. Every company releases new phones each year so I don't know why that is surprising. Also, the iPhone is $199.99 at its lowest price which is basically the same for many other phones when there released.
[Windows Phone 7 General] captobie:
If they give you an update but disable the features, is it really an update? I updated an iPod Touch 2G to iOS 4 thinking I was going to get multitasking, wallpapers, etc., and *all* I got was horrible battery life. Prior to the upgrade the battery would last for days, now it lasts 12 hours at best. And they don't give you any easy way to downgrade.

Oh, I did get something else from that experience as well... PATIENCE. I would rather Microsoft get the update right then rush it out the door. And once it does go out the door I'm going to sit back and see how it goes, had I done that I could have saved myself some grief with my iPod.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ErikWithNoC:
If you will recall Apple never said they were giving iPod Touch 2g owners multitasking. They said that it would be for iPod Touch 3+ so it was your fault for believing you would be getting multitasking. Also Apple isn't disabling a feature with an update. Sure you may not be getting everything, but their not taking anything away (can't take away something you don't have).

I think the whole "patience" side of the argument is one of the negatives for WP7 (in my opinion). People with WP7 (myself included) are always saying "it will be great once we get 'X' feature" and that's all we kept/keep saying. I don't care about what will be coming because so far Microsoft has been REALLY slow with updates (4+ months for copy and paste!?) I care about what I have now and WP7 has very little in certain areas. Plus how has that patience worked out? Microsoft released its first update that barely changed anything (as far as we can tell) and it bricked Samsung devices. They released a fix for it after 3 days or so and people still had issues. Do you know what they recommended (and I believe this is for everyone with WP7 but I'm not sure) to do before the update? Remove all your MEDIA and make sure you have 4gb of free space before the update then sync it all BACK after the update. Is that not convenient or what?
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
the recommendation isn't for everyone. it's only for those that encounter that particular error code. quite a few samsung owners reported that after the second roll out many were able to update fine. it was only a small number of those that had the inital issue were told that.

and besides, this is their first run at an update process like this. better it be for a meaningless update than for one that really mattered. this should iron out most of the bugs for when the actual update comes.

i think MS shouldn't be so kind to the carriers, but MS are doing what they need to do to get carriers to sell their phones. If you read around, they had the update ready in jan, but i believe it got delayed because of a last minute change they had to do (probably to fix up the dev unlocking) as well as a few carriers asking for it to be delayed.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ErikWithNoC:
Oh ok, thank you for correcting me. I don't find it to thrilling though that they managed to brick phones on the first update. Whether it was the first update or the 100th update, getting a bricked phone sucks. I personally worry about future updates. This small meaningless update was bad, but what about actual big changes? The Mango update seems to be adding a lot of new stuff and if a simple update like the recent one bricked phones what will a large and complex one do? Plus more phones will be in circulation by the time Mango hits so Microsoft will have to be troubleshooting the update process for those new phones that didn't have this first update.