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[Windows Phone 7 General] intrancer:
Hello with the the new updates is the phone now worth considering ?

Currently I am using a desire HD
[Windows Phone 7 General] Crimson Lotus:
I would personally wait for Nokia WP7, Thats when you'll see some good hardware / camera etc...
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
I bought mine two weeks ago. It is not perfect, i'll not lie. But it is the OS that I like most (I have iPhone 4 and Droid too). Android is laggy, even with overclock, and it feels.. like a beta. Worse, Alfa version. Everything is smooth and pretty in WP7.

I was willing to wait for Nokia devices, but i read that Nokia will only release one phone this year. And seriously, I don't trust Nokia. I don't want to buy Nokia's test phone, and I don't want to wait until next year.

Just buy it already, and join us (:
[Windows Phone 7 General] domineus:
For 3 iterations, I've always said android feels incomplete. Even on the tablet side, android feels very incomplete and I guess this has made OEMs feel like they can do what they will to cover android's shortcomings - specifically in their management of OS, fragmentation, and acceleration.

The iphone felt finished to me - even if I didn't like the iphone platform at all. Everything just worked and ran quite effectively. It was cohesive and central when it was released.

What I enjoy about windows phone is that it carries the cohesion of apple, and totally ramps it up full blast making it an incredible platform to code on, experience, and use on a daily basis.

I do miss flashing custom roms for one reason - I HAVE A DELL VENUE PRO and so far its one of the most closed wp7 devices on the market! Period! But even then, the only thing I want is root access to the registry. Not so much optimize much because the os is damn good as is.

Are there limits to windows phone 7? Sure all platforms have limits. But I think in time windows phone will definitely be a household name. All it really needs is good advertising at this point.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tiny17:
My biggest issue with WP7 right now is not the missing featurs, but rather the lack of quality hardware. That having been said, the Samsung Focus is very nice. It takes amazing pictures. The screen is big and beautiful. It is sleek, and has long battery life. My only complaint is how slick the plastic is. Would have been nice to have a more rubbery texture to it or something.
[Windows Phone 7 General] renegadEEE:
Like every OS WP7 has its cons and pro's but to me it's just the experience as a whole that stands out to the rest. I'd certainly recommend a WP7 device to everyone who wants to buy a smartphone. Certainly the one's who owned an Android device before like myself.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mikeeam:
I'm happy with my Trophy. I love the hardware. Have a nice grip, and an awesome screen. Not too large, nor too small. It's just the perfect size to me.

The plastic doesn't feel cheap, and doesnt look cheap. I recommend. And it is worth a look.
[Windows Phone 7 General] intrancer:
Thanks for feedback ... I use the following apps remote desktop, facebook,Twitter,slingplayer,navigation and need a good quality camera .... I'm looking at the apps market to see if I can find any apps like this..... I was disappointed to see no flash for browser....
[Windows Phone 7 General] wp7dev007:
LG Quantum == great hardware

I love my LG Quantum.

I need a keyboard for business emails. I sometimes write mails on it longer than I do at my desktop computer. Try that on the on-screen keyboard.

But, if I just have a few words, the on-screen is fine. And the word-correct is amazing on WP7.

Friends at work have Samsung Focus and love it. Most people DON'T need over 8GB of flash, because with ZunePass, one can stream what one doesn't have, and then just download what they want to keep.

WP7 really is GREAT STUFF, and getting better with time.

Enjoy Windows Phone 7!

-e
[Windows Phone 7 General] truffle1234:
this is a really silly question, ppl who like android will tell you no and ppl who like wp7 will ask you to move....

this is really very personal... its like you asking ppl what car should i buy

you should buy if you like wp7 not because ppl think u should buy...
[Windows Phone 7 General] nrfitchett4:
best thing you can do is go play with different devices in the store and see which one you like better.

WP7= fast and smooth, works out of the box great.

Android= very versatile, but does have some lag and might require some tweaking to get the best out of the device.

Just depends on what you are looking for.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FriedWP7:
+1 on this. I read an article in another post and it has me holding off a WP7 purchase for now. 5-reinstal limit on paid apps! Hell no! It aint worth it if that's how it's gonna be. At least being a smartphone it will have all the common features on phones these days, but the 5-limit will kill it for me.
[Windows Phone 7 General] intrancer:
Dam a limit ... well well..... that's no to wp7 .. thanks for letting me know about that
[Windows Phone 7 General] intrancer:
I don't think its a silly question... so far people that have had both have given me pros and cons those who have moved to wp7 have shared what they miss .... I am asking for owners experience of the phone... not if they like the color of the device...
[Windows Phone 7 General] digime:
To be clear - there is NO 5-reinstall limit.

The limit is 5 devices.

Why can't people get this simple facts right?
[Windows Phone 7 General] FriedWP7:
Don't look at me dude. The article was official and from a microsoft answer guy. Don't hate on ppl who believe what it says. Did you read the word in that screenshot? ****! I'm a big time gamer and **** things up all the time. I might have to reinstal my games a bunch of times. Pay once dude. No more.
[Windows Phone 7 General] digime:
What are you talking about?

I'm not hating on you. I'm telling you dumbass tech sites have once again failed to check their facts. You can reinstall as many times as you like.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FriedWP7:
No offense dude but until I see oficial word from microsoft that it aint true, I'm gonna hold back.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Well for me - yes and no.

If you don't care so much about features than WP7 is in many ways great.

But for me after 3 months of extensive usage - I start to have enough of stupid limitations. In March we will get only c&p and no other functionality enhancements.

I like how this WP7 behaves but it's totally unfinished product.

I rather accept a little choppiness but have all the features than use super fluent skeleton.

BTW this WP7 super fluent behaviour is a little myth. I see little freezes all the time.

More I think of it I see myself getting Android device soon. I don't care if it is "choppy", what is kinda BS TBH. I saw many current strong Androids which are smooth.

And they have oh so much more to offer right now. Sad but true.

I can't even buy apps and nobody knows WHEN this will be possible. And so on.

It will take a year or more to bring WP7 to desired state and I think some of the very useful features will not be supported ever.

Sorry for the rant but after the joy of using something nice has worn off, I just more and more miss features which are cruical for me and it's more than one thing.

I imagine getting SE Arc....

But I still didn't "give up". WP7 is still a great foundation.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MrBigFeathers:
If you've been using Android especially with Sense I don't see how you could ever switch to WP7. I have an HTC Incredible and I bought an HTC Surround to play around with a week ago. The Surround has already been sold. After using Android for years WP7 seems like a joke right now. It is almost closer to a feature phone than a smartphone. I was going to keep it just to use as a Zune and for the Xbox Live features. My original Zune 30GB is 5 times the music player a WP7 phone is. The Xbox live stuff...I'm playing a game, let me switch to something else for a second...Go back to the game, wait loading? Oh yeah, no multitasking.

Maybe if you were coming from a feature phone WP7 might seem nice, but it is far behind Blackberry, Android, and iOS. Even my Samsung Blackjack with WM 6.1 was far more usable. It sucks because I am a Microsoft fanboy. I love my Xbox, my Zune, Windows 7, etc. But WP7 is pretty bad I thought.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nrfitchett4:
http://wpcentral.com/windows-phone-marketplace-only-allows-5-re-installations-paid-apps-not-true

Is this official enough for you???
[Windows Phone 7 General] extasic:
I do have a DHD as well and am completely satisfied with it (well, besides the SIM card cover). Just as said before it's just a subjective decision what platform you prefer - but what moved you to consider migrating to WP7?
[Windows Phone 7 General] jasongw:
I love my Samsung Focus in countless ways.

That said, no, I don't recommend anyone buy it right now. Microsoft has yet to finish putting in the basic, obvious features they should have, and from the looks of things we won't see those features until the end of the year. By then, better hardware will be out.

Get yourself an Android or an iPhone. You'll be much happier.
[Windows Phone 7 General] freddy28:
It's very easy to decide:

App diversity & price:

1. Iphone

2. Android

3. Wp7 (most expensive apps and least choice of 'em - Example: Fruit ninja 4 WP7 2.99€, iOs 0,79€- jupp that's the truth 4 exactly the same app)

Phone that just works fine out of the box:

1. Iphone

2. Wp7 (no patch after nearly 5 months - yes, there are bugs...c'mon M$) They say it worxx "as designed" but I think they should just dismiss their PM's.

3. Android (you have to know what you do...and you'll better know it for sure otherwise you're lost or someone's got your credentials)

Choice of hardware:

1. Android (selection, price, competition -> unbeatable roi)

2. Wp7

3. Iphone (hyped and no selection)

Customization:

1. Android

2. Iphone/WP7 (uhm...no customization available)

Bright Future in terms of app continuity and updates:

1. Iphone

(No real Wp7 update/progress until now, no customer base - Android: highest customer base, but...Manufacturer's choice if you get an update (no continuity), highly fragmented mobile OS, lots of trial and error...linux frickle with open source & gnu licenses) It's a pity!

Development of apps in progress:

1. Iphone (you can earn money via appstore, that's n1ce)

2. Android (you can earn money with free apps using ad's...and you have to use plenty of em to get $ from those nickel nursers)

3. Wp7 (No customer base, only 2 mio devices sent out to carriers. Whole M$ staff got a mozart 4 free and they are seem to be the only active part of the community & devs right now)
[Windows Phone 7 General] intrancer:
DHD is a loan I think its brilliant but before I go get one I wanted peoples views of the wp7.

I don't know anyone who's got one.. so I can't play around with it... finding out that it doesn't have basics like copy N paste doesn't impress me.

I've got my DHD now ...
[Windows Phone 7 General] itster2:
corrections

It's very easy to decide:

App diversity & price:

1. Iphone (90% useless apps)

2. Android (low res, redundant apps.. i know i own an evo)

3. Wp7 (fastest growing app market in history of smarphones) .. best quality in terms of res and app use.. you pay more for a bmw don't you? exactly!

Phone that just works fine out of the box:

1. Iphone (took about 4 years to get to this point and took 2 years to get copy and paste)

2. Wp7 (copy and past implemented on new devices already and multi-tasking is in works).

3. Android (still having issues with texting to wrong person, laggy, caller id issues and much more that google is ignoring)

Choice of hardware:

1. Wp7 (launched 9 devices day 1.. 5 months later a few more are being announced)

2. Android (1 device launched on day one, took 6 months before we saw another)

3. Iphone (hyped and no selection)

Customization:

1.WP7 - hit the tiles and watch the phone come alive and don't worry you wont see blah like android.. customization is not needed.

2. Android (hit the contacts button or any other and you get blah screens)

Development of apps in progress:

1. Wp7 (fastest growing app eco system.. period!)

2. Iphone (you can earn money via appstore, that's n1ce)

3. Android (fragmented. low res, low quality apps.. redundancy galore! some apps work on 1.6 others work on 2.2 and so forth.)

support

1. wp7

apple/android don't even get a number because their devices lack support. android releases keep coming but never fixing old issues. apple updates more often, but google leaves you hanging because sales are great.

sales

1. wp7 (fastest to 1 million in sales in a fierce smartphone market)

2. iphone (3 weeks to 1 million sames) in weaker smartphone market

3 android (6 months to 1 million in sales) in weaker smartphone market
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
I went ahead and made recorrections to your corrections:

App diversity & price:

1. Iphone (huge selection and lowest price apps)

2. Android (huge selection - slightly higher cost )

3. Wp7 (fastest growing app market in history of smarphones) .. lowest quality quality in terms of res and app use.. you pay more for a bmw don't you? exactly! But you don't get a bmw with WP7 apps.

Phone that just works fine out of the box:

1. Iphone (It started out that way from day one. I know, I had one. Best phone that ever existed)

2. Wp7 (No copy and paste and no multitasking yet. Still waiting on advertised updates).

3. Android (still having issues with texting to wrong person, Not laggy, caller id issues and much more that google is ignoring)

Choice of hardware:

1. iPhone (the best quality and reliability)

2. Wp7 (launched 9 devices day 1.. 5 months later the problems are overwhelming MS)

3. Android (Diverse hardware but none is superb or polished)

Customization:

1. Android (a customizers dream system)

2. iPhone No customization advised)

3. WP7 (No customization allowed or needed)

Development of apps in progress:

1. Android (Surprisingly high quality apps)

2. Iphone (you can earn money via appstore, that's n1ce)

3. Wp7 (fastest growing crap and fart apps eco system.. period!)

support

1. iPhone

Excellent support, but can be costly. Android support, I don't know about. WP7 support is non-existent. Maybe MS has its hands tied by carriers.

sales

1. iphone (hugest smartphone market with just one phone)

2. wp7 (fastest to 2 million in sales to carriers)

3. android (slow start but, because of multiple devices, becoming a powerhouse)
[Windows Phone 7 General] itster2:
rerecorrecting

App diversity & price:

1. Wp7 (fastest growing app market in history of smarphones).. great looking apps, great graphics during game play.. 10,000 is more than anyone would ever need

2. Iphone (huge selection and lowest price apps) apps are in disarray

3. Android (huge selection - slightly higher cost ) redundant apps everywhere

Phone that just works fine out of the box:

1. Wp7 (copy and paste on wp7 arrive.. ie9 and more multi-tasking apps this year).

2. Iphone (for kids that don't know better.. MS helped their sales by licensing activesync for exchange.. tp2 is more versatile than iphone.. pathetic!)

3. Android (still having issues with texting to wrong person, laggy, caller id issues and much more that google is ignoring)

Choice of hardware:

1. iPhone (made by foxconn.. crap hardware.. pretty looks but fragile.. back of phone shatters) iphone updates bricked tons of phone and had to be exchanged for another.. for example, my brother exchanged his 6 times.. that's a fact! apple lacks quality in all aspects of the game.. but shiney!

2. Wp7 (launched 9 devices day 1.. 5 months later.. no problems with updates.. samsung changed hardware internally and did not update ms..common sense tells you that all samsung devices would have bricked if update was bad.. duh? )

3. Android (Diverse hardware but none is superb or polished) EVO is considered best device on market

Customization:

1.WP7 (No customization allowed or needed) considered most complete OS on market even in infancy stages.

2. Android (looks like palm of 90's)

3. iPhone (looks like palm of 90's)

Development of apps in progress:

1.Wp7 (fastest growing apps eco system.. period!) can you say xbox? yes wp7 can, but the others cant!

2. Android (low quality apps.. low res apps.. not all work on all platforms)

3. Iphone (you can earn money via appstore, that's n1ce)

support

1. wp7 (update as early as 4 months!) no other platform has done that

2. iphone... support?? wait 1 year! plus you're holding the phone wrong.. nice support.. support tells you, YOU'RE WRONG!

3. android? no support at all, atleast apple responds by blaming the user

sales

1. wp7 (fastest to 2.5 million in sales to carriers)

2. iphone (still has not exceeded average wm sales per year (20 mil) (older platform sold more?).. pathetic!

3. android (slow start but, because of multiple devices, becoming a powerhouse)

what the other can't do that is built into wp7

1. office

2. xbox

3. zune (considered best in multi-media)

4. sharepoint

5. SEEMLESS exchange integration

6. take a picture without having to unlock screen

7. can correct spelling with a tap on the word.

8. 93% customer satisfaction... unheard of!

the list goes on...

i have an ipod touch 4, i've had webos, wm for years, palm os and android.

NONE of the os's have a chance against windows mobile, they certainly dont have a chance against windows phone 7..

it's a pipe dream.. keep dreaming!
[Windows Phone 7 General] evolutionqy7:
i love my omnia 7.

i also have hd7 with leaked nodo update and tbh i love it

only annoyance is no tethering
[Windows Phone 7 General] phoneguy 4567:
I would say unless you have a burning need to replace your phone I would wait. As someone commented earlier right now WP7 feels more like a feature phone, rather then a smartphone.

What features do you use on a regular basis, & are those features available right now on WP7? As some keep telling those of us who complain about the lack of updates, they will come when they come. You knew what functions & features the OS was capable of when you bought the phone, MS doesn't owe you a thing beyond that. Does that sound like a platform you want to be a part of right now? :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] nrfitchett4:
wow!!!

I hope no one reads this and thinks they have to unlock their phone...

I have a stock hd7 and I'm very happy with it. And that's coming from a long line of customized winmo phones (hd2, tp2, q9c)

I still can't believe people are unlocking their phones just to use custom ringtones... Seems like a lot of work for such a small feature.
[Windows Phone 7 General] TheChucklesStart:
Do you all know if the phone can be made to automatically enter vibrate or silent mode during scheduled meetings?
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
i believe at present it is not possible.
[Windows Phone 7 General] TheChucklesStart:
:( I don't know if I want to invest in WP7 now. I was planning on getting an arrive this weekend... hmmm
[Windows Phone 7 General] deadwrong03:
wait a min i thought with the custom ringtones they couldnt be mp3s and that they had to be wav format? if they are mp3 ringtones what do u use to trim the ringtones to that part u want?
[Windows Phone 7 General] dtboos:
Right now you have to have them in windows media format. [When] they allow custom ringtones, most likely mp3's will be a part of that, and with that being enabled, there will probably be apps that will cut songs for you just like there are on other platforms.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
not for this moment,i'm pretty regret now until i see some real updates in my mozart....
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
I stopped reading here, I don't have the time nor will to debunk this. It's pretty simple. You can figure it out on your own...
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
You do not like to really say there is a right or wrong answer but this one is pretty obvious:

Different strokes for different folks

How can anyone tell you what is right for you? You will have to do your own research and choose which one will work for you.

Step 1: Go into the store and try out the OSes if possible. If not go onto youtube and watch as many demonstrations as you can find.

Step 2: Outline exactly what you use your phone to do now and what you want out of your future phone.

Step 3: Do some research about the phones that are being offered if this is going to be on a plan and what kind of hardware you are looking for.

Step 4: Do an assessment on the future/viability of the OS.

And all these things vary dramatically from user to user. If you want a bunch of home screens and flashy backgrounds you will have some issues with WP7 and Metro UI. If you want to customize your phone like crazy then WP7 is not for you.

Just do due diligence and you will be fine. I am assuming since you own a Desire HD and you like that form factor then the HD7 is the logical suggestion for you to research. Good luck.

Edit:

I forgot the best piece of advice - If it is not broke don't fix. If your current phone does everything you need it to do and does it well then keep it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DS1495:
Hey n8ter.

Sorry to be off-topic, but, is your HD2 still for sale? (I noticed you do not accept PM's, so I figure this is the only way to contact you..)
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
I respectfully disagree. You are looking at it from one point of view and that is your own.

There are currently people using WP7 now that left another OS. Some of them are happy. Some of them are not. That alone is proof that there is no right or wrong, it is what you want.

I want a phone that I can take into the shower. So I am wrong because that is what I want? All the shortcomings of the OS are things that you want and expect out of said OS.

Yes, every OS is targetting a wide audience. But every OS does it differently. So if I choose iOS over Android I am wrong and it is not different strokes for different folks?

Or it stops applying when one chooses Windows Phone?

I want an OS that is responsive, has good hardware, and displays the information I want out of it effectively. Metro UI trumps the other OSes with its live tiles and hubs.

I still am perplexed on the thinking that anyone can tell someone else what is right or wrong for them. No matter what wrong you highlight you are still in effect saying that.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
I agree with both N8ter and nicksti.

However look at it like this

IOS- ok UI

Android- ok UI

Windows Phone - hate it or love it UI

I have a Mac and and I purchase an iPhone, they integrate without me doing anything. If I have a Apple TV, I can control it with my iPhone with one simple app download.

Get a Windows Phone, and nothing else with windows recognizes it. Not without downloading an additional media player, for your desktop. That's as far as its integration goes. Hell my TV wouldn't even charge the thing.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
You're acting like I don't use Windows Phone 7 and I'm just some Android fanboy trolling these forums.

I use both OSes practically concurrently side by side on a daily basis. There are more deficits than benefits to choosing WP7. That's what the issue is.

It's not a question of whether it's good. Even feature phones are good. It's a question of whether or not it's a better investment than an Android or iOS device.

At the moment, the Answer is no. The market speaks for itself. WP7 devices aren't flying off the shelves because the market said it isn't.

That means more than my or your opinion.

Until Mango launches on new devices, I don't think it's worth buying a WP7 device.

Anyone who thinks I'm wrong, good for them. Prospective buyers who think I'm wrong. Go ahead, buy one, and enjoy it.