yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Incredible S] vido.ardes:
Hey guys,

I am looking into doing soem more in-depth work into this NAND cracking problem at the weekend, and will probably need some help. That being said, I need someone with knowledge, as without wishing to sound rude, I don't want to spend half the weekend teaching. If you have prior knowledge / experience in kernel building for Android and already have the environment set up to do so then you can be of huge help, please contact through here via PM if you can spare some time over the next two days it will be greatly appreciated.

Please don't send messages saying "I am willing to help, what can I do?" if you don't know about building kernel modules, or are new to Android but don't really know much about it. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but I have two devices to test with and don't need another, I need someone with ideas and inspiration as I have been looking at this for two straight weeks and am starting to go a little bit mad... :confused::eek::p
[HTC Incredible S] Cobesz:
Ok, maybe a weird question. But isn't the Incredible S the european variant of the "Droid Incredible" also bij HTC?

Specs seem to be (somewhat) the same to me, have you tried rooting the Incredible S the way you root the Droid Incredible?
[HTC Incredible S] qvert:
does the thunderbolt root maybe is working? or different system ?
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
To both above: Droid incredible is old, they improved the loader.

An said before: none, no NONE of the current methods works atm. Only psneuter exploit for temp-root

Though I appreciate the input, we have tried it to use all the methods that are currently known :)

@qvert: i owe u an apoligy, have not looked in that one :$ Was just to pissed of that day, sorry :P
[HTC Incredible S] vido.ardes:
The old Droid Incredible is unfortunately totally different hardware in every aspect as well as being an older revision of software. The unrevoked method of breaking the NAND lock may well be relevant, but as the tool available itself doesn't work and we can't get in contact with anyone who worked on it we are forced to look elsewhere
[HTC Incredible S] Nawake:
Have you contacted the team who handled the HTC Thunderbolt?

Perhaps there are similarities between the two devices! :)

I hope so ^o^

News : Thunderbolt Rooted!
[HTC Incredible S] vido.ardes:
Thanks, this could help
[HTC Incredible S] doctorsax:
What software version is your phone running? It won't work for all phones, so it could be it won't work on yours.
[HTC Incredible S] Freka:
Will software version 2.28.666.3 work?
[HTC Incredible S] ste1164:
Yes that version will work.
[HTC Incredible S] Charrion:
I've tried it on my Bell IS with that very version and it fails to get root. Sadly, it looks like the exploits used by the current version of Alpharev X (version 0.2pre5) have been plugged.
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
Too quick to post. The appropriate question has already been asked and answered.
[HTC Incredible S] Freka:
Yes it did not work for me.
[HTC Incredible S] neo-X:
At least your phones working now! :D

Yes it's been patched, sadly.
[HTC Incredible S] Freka:
You have no idea how happy I was when the phone booted up lol.
[HTC Incredible S] notalways:
For anyone having trouble with S-off ing their Hong Kong IS with version 2.12.708.4 I got mine S-offed by using goldcard to flash to Optus Rom and then using AlpharevX to S-off (took me 4 tries of AlpharevX)

Hope it helps!
[HTC Incredible S] hussainmushahid:
isn't it better to use revolutionary instead of alpharevx now ?

http://revolutionary.io/
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
If you type the old AlphaRevX link

http://alpharev.nl/x/beta, it will redirect you to the Revolutionary screen.
[HTC Incredible S] sdkim89:
Someone confirm please.

So you guys are saying that my unlocked Bell I.S Froyo 2.2.1

cannot

be rooted > gingerbread?
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
Yes you can S-Off and root your Froyo 2.2.1. Then if you want GB, then install a rooted GB Rom from the Development section. If you take the GB OTA then you will lose root and S-Off.
[HTC Incredible S] sdkim89:
Ah okay, I'm still a bit skeptical about rooting/s-offing with revolutionary (at all, in general), since it still seems to be in beta and not 100%?

I don't know.. I know my Unlocked Bell IS 2.2.1 is crappy and could use some fixes (echo calls, useless apps, etc.) but yeah like I mentioned, unsure. :confused:

I've previously had a Desire and had that rooted and s-off'd like no tomorrow but since Incredible S is still in its developmental stages, debating :(
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
Don't worry about the 'beta' status. The solution works just fine on Froyo based IncS. It is still in beta because they are still adding new devices and working on a solution for Gingerbread on several of the devices.
[HTC Incredible S] Shinugen:
Just to be clear

Hey people,

So just to be clear --

Neither AlphaRevX nor Revolutionary will work for GB 2.13.405.1, due to

there being no way to root this version?

Thanks,

Shinugen
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
You may be able to use Revolutionary on GB 2.13.405.1. The issues started when GB 2.30.405.1 came out.
[HTC Incredible S] sdkim89:
Nvm, got it working
[HTC Incredible S] maniacscorpio:
Please help me

Please help me-

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=16530147#post16530147
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
Don't double post. Your thread has already been answered. You need to have patience.
[HTC Incredible S] pileto:
Hi to everybody,

i had a success !!!

revolutionary-0.4pre4 and 2.30.405.1

everything is fine and now my phone is - S-OFF-ed :)
[HTC Incredible S] SirMikey:
That is amazing news! I hope to be following you shortly. Have you flashed a new rom yet and if so which did you go for?
[HTC Incredible S] John Anderton:
Personal choice though ARHD/CM7/MIUI are usual picks for people :)
[HTC Incredible S] jaztim:
Did mine today with the revolutionary tool.

2 mins and reeboot - job done.

flashed the [ROM] Android Revolution HD 1.1.5

The difference to the speed of the handset is quite something.

Do it. You will not regret it.
[HTC Incredible S] pileto:
I'm using "Virtuous Unity 1.31.0 Sense 3.0 based on Pyramid" everithing working fine for now... There is a new version 1.33 today...

I think to try Revolution soon.

Wish you luck:)
[HTC Incredible S] intelligencexan:
I did s off on my froyo on incredible s and flashed 4ext clockwork recovery... If i do the official ota gingerbread update, will that work? Is there something i should be aware of or do first?

Will that be safe? Will i have to s-off the gingerbread?
[HTC Incredible S] bubuleanu:
2 mins ..... and S-OFF !! quite fast !

now looking for a good ROM

L.E.: ok, choosed Android Revolution HD 1.1.5 .... keep in touch :)
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
The OTA will not install once you install clockwork recovery. The OTA checks to see that you are installing it on a stock ROM.

You can now install any of the rooted ROMs in the Development section. if you want to stick with a rooted stock ROM, there is a version of the WWE GB ROM 2.30.405.1 in there, too.
[HTC Incredible S] thebuginyou:
WOW

gr

My Incredible S is S-OFF now...

Its just a cake peice of work to be done

thanks AlphaRevX

Now my boot screen says

-Revelutionary-

VIVI PVT SHIP S-OFF RL

HBOOT-6.13.1002

but i am lil confused

what next :P
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
This thread is referenced in the [INDEX] HTC InsS thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1122694
[HTC Incredible S] imranfarookj:
Hello guyz I'm an indian user..as known I can't s off my incredible s with alpha or revolution software..please tell me how to do it in an alternate way..I'm very eager to use the sensation rom..please help me guyz..

Specs..

Android version 2.3.3

baseband 20.2805.30.085au.....

Kernel 2.6.35.9.......

any help will be really appreciated..
[HTC Incredible S] mrkekson:
u can S-off it again and the softwre version what matters something like 2.xx.xxx.x, i had 2.31.405.1 eu, firmware, and s-offend yesterday!
[HTC Incredible S] mrkekson:
kinda easy

1 copy rom to sdcard into any folder

2 just alpha it, it will install a new bootloader

3 unplug usb, install rom

4 install rom managger

5 enjoy
[HTC Incredible S] neo-X:
Ok so flashed back 405.1 stock ruu and bootloader still shows revolutionary??!?!?!

I need this gone because im sending in for warranty!?
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
Your best bet is to hop on the AlphaRevX IRC channel and ask them for assistance. They haven't officially published all of the pieces and procedure to perform that function yet.
[HTC Incredible S] Lynt:
Hi AlphaRev lads.

Just wondering if there was any progress on using AlphaRev for HBOOT 1.16.0000? Just got my Incredible S, gutted that I can't root it.

Eagerly awaiting a fix.

Thanks heaps for your efforts.
[HTC Incredible S] nsg86:
No luck yet seems ....you may check with them at their irc channel
[HTC Incredible S] Lynt:
No good. The topic of the channel contains "No ETAs - Asking for future plans or an ETA is a bannable offense".

I'll just have to be patient!
[HTC Incredible S] ryzer:
guy need suggestion.....can i root using Revolutionary tool......my Hboot 1.16 or i should wait...??
[HTC Incredible S] Lynt:
From what I've found out mate, 1.16 can't be rooted yet by Revolutionary. Go ahead and give it a shot if you like, but I'm going to wait until they announce that it's officially supported; at the moment, it seems like it's not.

I'm not sure if there's any risk to running it on your phone if they haven't advised it's supported yet.
[HTC Incredible S] ryzer:
Yeah u rite....i should wait.....thank you
[HTC Incredible S] Normski15:
S-Off Incredible S - Xclip

Hi,

Can anybody help plse, i have a Incredible S (2.3.3) Kernal version 2.6, Build number 2.12 and software number 2.12.405.7. Giving you all the info i can?

I am thinking of getting a X-Clip to put my Incredible S on S-Off, what i want to know is will it work on my version or am i wasting my money?

Thanks for any input.

Norman:confused:
[HTC Incredible S] nsg86:
Your hboot version ? if it is 1.13 , then it is still be able to s-off using revolutionary.
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
Yes you should be able to S-Off using Revolutionary. No need to spend the bucks for a XTC clip.
[HTC Incredible S] Lynt:
What version of HBOOT do you have? I'm thinking about trying the XTC Clip if there are no other options in the coming weeks.
[HTC Incredible S] Normski15:
Hi all thanks for the help will try the revolutionary and let you know how i get on.

My HBOOT is 1.13.0000
[HTC Incredible S] nsg86:
Yes, you can s-off using revolutionary since it is 1.13 =)

happy flashing xD
[HTC Incredible S] Normski15:
Hi, I`ve got my incredible S-Off, can i go back IF needed? I have`nt saved anything but all of my details are above. I am not looking to go back but just in case. Also now that i have got the S-Off is there a certain line to go down or can i root just about anything? I just want it to be faster and put what ever i want onto it.

Thanks Norman
[HTC Incredible S] Lynt:
Gaaaah, so jealous! You done it yet?
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
Yes there is a thread that documents the procedure you can use to remove the Revolutionary S-OFF HBOOT and return to S-ON and a released RUU/ROM.
[HTC Incredible S] elmanortega:
amazing work guys

can i get some help with

hboot-1.16.0000

---------- Post added at 01:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:40 PM ----------

i diid the same as a guy using the htc dev code nothing
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
After you unlock HBOOT 1.16 using the HTCDEV site, you can then flash an image of ClockworkMod using FASTBOOT mode. Once you have CWM installed, then you can flash su-3.0.zip to root and install the superuser app.
[HTC Incredible S] x1123:
Key is obtainable from alpharevX site, so please obtain another key . The safe way is keep alpharevx site open during s-offing and do copy paste the key to your terminal
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
Go to http://revolutionary.io and read their documentation page completely. Then download and install the drivers they have and the latest version of their software. When you run it, go back to the site and get a new beta key and it is best to use CUT and PASTE to copy your serial number to and the beta key. Mistyping one or both of them will cause you to get the invalid beta key message.
[HTC Incredible S] Possible:
Hello,

Ive got a question about rooting the Incredible S. My own device is rooted perfectly. My father has also a Incredible S but it won't work. The only thing I know is that he installed the latest update from HTC. From what i have heard, this wil patch the gingerbread exploit.

Is there another way to root / S-off the device? Or is a Xt-clip the only thing for now?

His Hboot = HBOOT-1.13.0000
[HTC Incredible S] deathgame:
Linux Recommended

i always recommend ubuntu to root ur phone...its more easy without any tension of drivers and htc sync...no special knowledge needed just install linux inside windows by mounting ubuntu iso file and follow instructions from stickey ! wont take more than 5 minutes generally !
[HTC Incredible S] Faadiz:
I had roote dmy incredible S using revolutionary.

Now there is an ota update 2.3.5.

I am unable to install it. Is there a way to install the latest ota update?
[HTC Incredible S] elmanortega:
when you s-off and root you cant install oem ota

you are better off with a custom rom anyway
[HTC Incredible S] x1123:
Just download stock OTA RUU and run RUU (usually for windows pc only) you will have S-ON, Stock Rom, Unrooted, Odexed :D OR you can extract rom.zip from RUU and install via hboot by renaming rom.zip into Device-ID-IMG[dot]zip in sdcard > for incredible S PG32IMG.zip
[HTC Incredible S] plex12345:
when will alpharevx update so we can put recovery for our hboot v2.00?

thanks
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
You can put a custom recovery on HBOOT 2.0 by unlocking it using the procedure at HTCDEV.com and then flashing the custom recovery image in fastboot mode using the command:

fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
[HTC Incredible S] And-rois:
Hi I Downgrade my phone of hboot 1.13 for s-off by reveloationry but dont get beta key by this ....
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
._. it says visit revolutionary.io to get a beta key ._.
[HTC Incredible S] Ghisy:
I also thought about the IS when I saw that the TB got rooted!

Good luck l0st.prophet! You can do it! :)
[HTC Incredible S] oyumurtaci:
It seems the folks at Android Police got recovery working as well for the Thunderbolt:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...he-htc-thunderbolt-and-unlock-its-bootloader/

Might be of some use.
[HTC Incredible S] Bantu85:
A key part of their root seems to be an old Radio file... which can be exploited using the wpthis method (same as G2). I'm thinking that this may be closed in our version... but good luck to our intrepid explorers :D
[HTC Incredible S] damnoregonian:
yep.

all i had to do was port wpthis to their device, and use psneuter for temp root.

they were fortunate enough to have a radio firmware from around the beginning of january that was still vulnerable to wpthis, and an engineering hboot to flash over the locked one.

one thing to note, the first thing we flashed was recovery, and it seems that htc is now requiring signed recovery and boot partitions. the engineering hboot of course ignored this.

i haven't checked if your hboot has the same security provisions, but i imagine it won't really be relevant, since if we can flash recovery, we can flash hboot.

scotty2
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
About the thunderbold hack: it isn't going to work. Have to completly rework the methods for this phone.

Since the the Thunderbold is (software wise) just a redux of the desire Z, and this one is just new :P

But thanks for the input. We just have to wait a little longer!
[HTC Incredible S] vido.ardes:
Another update: still no good news I'm afraid :mad:

Thunderbolt Root - I was hoping this would help us as it is a newer HTC device with a similar method of locking the NAND. This may be the case, but they have an old firmware which is vunerable to an already existing exploit (wpthis) and it just involves downgrading to that firmware first, so no new exploits, no help to us.

My own efforts, not so great. I am learning loads about how Android works, how to tweak the kernel e.t.c, but as far as finding an exploit, well I think it's gonna take a better man than me. scotty is still on the case and alpharev (the guy responsible for unlocking the Desire) has also offered help, so it is still being worked on, but I am going a little blind looking over the same code again and again. The one little ray of hope is that we have found a partition that isn't locked and is write accessible, so we may be able to do something with that.

Still, no root yet I'm afraid guys, sorry :(
[HTC Incredible S] Bantu85:
On the scale of 0 (impossible) to 10 (very likely), how easy would it be for us to obtain the sig key/method (i have no idea how signing files works!) used by HTC?

I know you guys are working really hard on this but it feels like we're reaching a stage where the best solution will be a leak of an old/test firmware from HTC... which is probably not going to happen.
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
Hey don't be that easy that would ruin all the fun for the rooting team ;)

But it will be a 6 if you spent a few years cracking it with a cloud service and the algorithm is extremely good: so practically its a 0.

Test ROM is also not very likely. Will be hard, but its possible.
[HTC Incredible S] Ghisy:
I've tweeted a bunch of "famous" Android people about this (Paul O'Brien, Cyanogen, the guys from Unrevoked) and got no reply! Only the creator of the SU app replied saying he had no idea!

My IS arrived today and I'm not sure I will use it right away: no root access and no case for it yet.

I still believe in people working on it though :)

Sent from my HTC Desire
[HTC Incredible S] qvert:
i am quiet sure that there is a security hole somewhere.. no software is 100% safe.. but someone needs to find it.. and guess what i am not skilled enough :-) but hopefully some are
[HTC Incredible S] menov321:
You done more than most and have at least tried....these sort of things can easily take most if not all of your free time....so credits to you for sticking with it......but youlll never know how close you were to success if you dont see it through. :D remember failed attempts to find root is also increased chances of finding root next time.
[HTC Incredible S] Brumble:
Any progress people?? I need to go back to HTC, going to motorola was a bad idea, I the incredible s but if its anything like moto an locked down ill go back to the desire or desire hd.

Ao please let there be progress, a big thanks to the guys that are working on it, and good luck.

Sent from my Defy.
[HTC Incredible S] Hawkysoft:
@Brumble there is some progress but not there yet, temp root is available, nand still locked

scotty2 is workin on it
[HTC Incredible S] Nawake:
Patience is the Key word ! Ppl are working on it.

Juste wait ^^
[HTC Incredible S] Brumble:
Thanks for the quick reply :)

Good to hear there is some progress, the person who cracks it gets a beer :)

Good work guys and good luck.

Sent from my Defy
[HTC Incredible S] Brumble:
@Nawake I am being patient, was just asking for an update, not harrasing.

Sent from my Defy
[HTC Incredible S] hungheo:
how about use the desire HD's way to root?
[HTC Incredible S] Hawkysoft:
all current methods have been tried and failed just hold ur breathe and wait for scotty2
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
About the previous comments: scotty2 is working his ass off for this. The source code release can be of great help, but still: a new exploit has to be found.

The methods for the desire, desire HD, Thunderbolt and a like will not work because that exploit was fixed end January. The first ROM available for the IS is from 11 February which has the fix in it.

We need to have the time to find an exploit and see if its useable. There have been a few options, tested and found useless (over and over again). It's just a process which takes time. The update is: we made a lot of progress: we know what doesn't work. Though its a good progress, we know where to look, just need to find an exploitable part

Just like the previous comments: just wait for it or find it on your own. But I assure you: there getting harder and harder to find.

Happy hunting
[HTC Incredible S] paullu:
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-releases-source-for-incredible-s-mytouch-3g-slide-wildfire

look here guys:D
[HTC Incredible S] :
Yeah saw they released the source code. gave me new hope that someone might find a new exploit
[HTC Incredible S] Ghisy:
Oh man, we're so unlucky on this one! :(

I wish I could help but I'm no Android guru. I hope you guys will find it soon because I bought the IS but I'm still using my Desire for now (no root and no protective case for the IS).
[HTC Incredible S] qvert:
maybe someone who is skilled enough could ask for the help of paul o'brian or unrevoked team? Maybe they've got a special idea?
[HTC Incredible S] :
Read my tech feeds this morning I found this :( looks like HTC are doing their best to prevent customisation
[HTC Incredible S] Ghisy:
I just found out too. It's complete BS!! Now I want to sell the IS and go back to my Desire (which I haven't left yet btw).

Custom ROMs and rooting is exactly why I buy HTC devices and now they're pulling a Motorola on us? :eek:
[HTC Incredible S] vido.ardes:
Just to let you know, this article was wirtten on information given to them by scotty, who is the guy working with us. There is nothing in the article that we didn't already know, it hasn't stopped him so far an there are other avenues we are currently looking at, so don't give up hope just yet
[HTC Incredible S] :
I have faith that you guys can circumvent this. I just find it very disappointing that HTC are taking this stance.
[HTC Incredible S] Ghisy:
@l0st.prophet, oh I see. But do you think it's actually possible to crack this bootloader? Or is it as locked as Motorola's?

I'm willing to wait for a little if there's good hope. I don't mean to be hasty though, I appreciate your work guys.
[HTC Incredible S] vido.ardes:
The bootloader on the older motorola's is hardware encripted, which is a much more dire situation than this, which is a signed bootloader (what the Atrix has). I am not saying it is a certainty, but it is still being worked on so haven't covered every possibility yet.
[HTC Incredible S] oyumurtaci:
I'm not pretending on any level that I know the slightest thing about all this, but I'm just curious so I'll ask: can these "signatures" be extracted to be used in custom ROMs, is the signature "checking" done by hardware or can it be circumvented by simply disabling the checking somehow, and lastly, how many kegs of beer will we owe you guys when you're done?
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
No these signatures cannot be used because they check if the Sig matches the file. And since this one is signed, its theoretically easier to crack. Also we are looking for a way to bypass or disable the checking. So want u suggest is correct, only need to find it.

And you owe me no beer :p this is just for fun and o I don't drink is also a good point I guess hh.
[HTC Incredible S] oyumurtaci:
It doesn't have to be beer :)
[HTC Incredible S] thiagofbrito:
So the question is: buy or not to buy the IS??

Do we have other suitable phone options?
[HTC Incredible S] oyumurtaci:
That depends on your definition of options and what kind of timeframe you are working with. If you need a top-end device such as the Incredible S immediately, and if you really want an open platform the Nexus S is probably your next best bet for an Android device.

If you aren't in a rush, wait for the lockdown situation to pan out as well as possible new releases from HTC, LG and Samsung with dual core SOCs.
[HTC Incredible S] nerdo:
No matter how difficult it might seem ..... one thing I've seen here over & over again... there is always someone(s) who cracks it ..... so no worries!

My query did any one try or consider XTC clip to S-off IS?

I know this will not benefit the masses in terms of "soft" root solution, just wondering if this is still doing the trick on the new challenge :confused: