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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heroid007:
In the past several days, as there has been influx in Gingerbread users, I have seen an increase in traffic to one of my all time favorite guide to setup internet calling via Android phones using Google Voice #s and enjoy free calling throughout US with wi-fi as long the Google offer lasts. So I thought maybe I will create a new thread with the link to enable easy access to all the wandering souls looking for the information.

[While you are on the site, feel free to browse around and enjoy interesting ads (considered donation without you having to spend a dime for the help) ]

And here is the link: A Guide to Setup Internet Calling using Google Voice and Android Gingerbread
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] ryannathans:
Been using the clocksync app from market. Using it to auto correct the time drift issue I keep experiencing.

Every time you hit the windows button and open that menu bar, the clock is fine. As soon as you close it your clock stops 'ticking' until the menu is closed usually causing up to 3 seconds of time drift, over the course of a day my time usually half an hour out at least.

Download the app and try opening and closing the menu and test it for yourself :)

Why does this happen? I'm happy using this app to resync time every few hours if I have to, just reporting this bug like a good tester xD

Edit: I can confirm that most interaction with the ui pauses the clock. For example, closing a menu or sliding down the notification bar.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] shatred:
this was already known :p if you read the frx04 thread then you would know that everyone suggests you use clocksync because the clock is still bugged..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] manekineko:
Actually, this is the first time I've seen someone suggest that they've found a concrete way of reproducing the problem.

However, this is certainly not the only source of clock drift, since I get clock drift when my phone is just sitting there doing nothing. Nonetheless, the fact that it's reproducible will hopefully be helpful to some dev in running down the problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] shatred:
the clock is always off, when its sleeping or idle even when you are using it the clock is ALWAYS off a couple ms and those ms increase every second. so bassicly after 15min in life the clock on your phone thinks it have only been 14 mins.

Use clock sync people! its free downloadable from the market and you can set it to auto set time every 30min, 1 hour, 2 hours etc. i prefer every 1 hour as that is very accurate
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] shatred:
i did not read it good sorry*
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] Entropy512:
I can confirm that menu open/close actions do cause clock drift. Not sure why ryannathan's menu takes so long to close. In my case, my menu closes a lot faster and the system clock loses only a few hundredths of a second each time (not a fixed amount, it is variable).

It's especially obvious when you are within ClockSync as the "offset" number increases in magnitude rapidly when you hit the menu button over and over again to repeatedly open/close it.

Edit: Looks like it doesn't help that we don't seem to have access to an RTC. I was curious to see how well the hardware clock was keeping in sync as compared to our system clock, but hwclock can't find an RTC to access.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] ryannathans:
Is there currently anyone working on this issue?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] shatred:
i guess not, as most important things are worked on now like battery life, wake up, sleep and a stable running system.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] Entropy512:
I think it's unreasonable to expect work to "kick off" in less than a day. It is probably bumped up in priority thanks to a reproducible scenario, however, it's a pretty deep-down bug so the people most likely to have the skills to work it are the ones working on power management right now.

(e.g. I have barely any clue where to even start with something like this, so I'll be sticking with my GPS work for now.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General] ryannathans:
Updated first post to include information about most interections with ui. Check the edit.

Can someone confirm this?
[Android Software Development] torres76:
Hi everyone i have been searching for the last 4 hours on here and google just to find out how i can edit my build.prop, im still unable to do it can someone please help me thankyou......:)
[Android Software Development] elmalote:
Use Adb pull from its location, if I remember correctly its /system/build.prop

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Android Software Development] chrisrotolo:
extremly simple open with text editor, try root explorer app on device , navigate to /system/build.prop, long press and select open with text editor, then make changes, press menu button then save&exit option. a backup will automagically be created for you.

You could also pull off the phone and edit with notepad, etc. then push back to phone. may be helpful to create a backup first.
[Android Software Development] torres76:
Thanks to both of you but i know how to pull the build.prop but dont now how to change things inside the file. Also to view the build.prop in root explorer text editor you have to be mounted as r/w but after this you go to the file and there is only one line all the rest has gone.
[Android Software Development] torres76:
I used wordpad and yes i could edit and save the new build.prop but when i try adb push build.prop /system/build.prop i get failed to copy 'build.prop' to '/system/build.prop read-only file system what now.
[Android Software Development] nivron:
Do an "adb remount" before pushing the updated build.prop.
[Android Software Development] torres76:
Thanks that didnt work either i tried by putting the edited file onto the phone then moving it to system and over writing the original, when i rebooted the screen was blank so i had to run my nand backup. I then tried to edit the file on the phone through text editor and it worked straight away SOD'S law...... Thanks everyone.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Foladko:
Hi

Is there anyway to change the app drawer the the style used in Touchwiz (galaxy S), while still on Sense UI.

I love Sense, but I hate the long list of apps you have to scroll, and the Touchwiz app drawer seems more pleasant. :p

OR atleast some sort of app to organize apps as you wish (not just limited to alphabet, and recent).

Thanks everyone!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shawnbuck:
Whats the right way of compiling a module for the Atrix kernel?

I'm currently using the stock android 2.6.32.9 linux sources and the Atrix's config, although I can't get the kernel to agree with the modules I'm trying to build.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shawnbuck:
Motorola didn't use froyo sources to compile the kernel, they used vanilla 2.6.32.9 to do it.

The last problem is that modules are built as ARMv5 instead of ARMv7, probably since there is a patch setting the system type to Tegra 2.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpuchip:
Compile Atrix 2.3.6 kernel mods

I've grabbed the source for the 91 kernel source since the 141 kernel source has not be release. I need to get iso9660 and udf file system support.

I've followed this thread on compiling the kernel http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1141506

I can successfully compile the kernel and the kernel modules, but I keep getting an invalid module format error, what's a revised way for compiling kernel mods?

adas@localhost:/opt/dev/kernel modules/kmods$ sudo insmod ext4.ko

insmod: error inserting 'ext4.ko': -1 Invalid module format

adas@localhost:/opt/dev/kernel modules/kmods$ sudo insmod udf.ko

insmod: error inserting 'udf.ko': -1 Invalid module format

My end Goal after I get the kernel mods working is to compile a kernel with swap support.

Thanks for any help rendered.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFHimself:
When you get the insmod errors try looking at dmesg at the tail end of the log, usually that error means the version string doesn't match what is baked into the kernel.

Cheers!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] exwannabe:
The general rule is that you do not want to enable swap on a flash based file system, but that is up to you.

Are you getting the module load errors against your own kernel, or are you trying to reproduce the stock kernel and your modules fail when loading against the real stock kernel?

If the latter, there are many things to look at. First would be your cross tools. These could easily produce incompatable code. But if the error is just a symble not found, then most likely your kernel config does not match the running kernel.

EDIT: missed the error messages, but it still is about the same answer. The compiler is generating the wrong code either becasue it is different from that whcih generated the running kernel, or the config options comming out of your kernel tree are not matching.

Have you tried actually running your kernel?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpuchip:
Thanks so much for the advice from the two of you. These are my dmesg errors. they pop up right after I enter the command: insmod isofs.ko

[505123.289798] usb_ether_get_stats

[505123.322414] isofs: no symbol version for module_layout

I'm new to kernel work. I used the config from my phone directly, it was located at /proc/config.gz

I used the cross compilers as defined in the post I linked to in my first post. unfortunately I don't have the source to 141, just 91, what's on source forge from motorola. I don't know if they did any changes between the two, but the release version was slightly different between the two.

I'm okay with burning through external sd cards for the sake of having more browser tabs open, and an overall more responsive system.

---------- Post added at 10:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:20 PM ----------

I saw in one thread that you have to compile the kernel first before the modules. I did that, and now I'm getting a new error:

[506616.823352] usb_ether_get_stats

[506616.867837] isofs: disagrees about version of symbol module_layout

seems to be a version conflict. do I have to inject that in on compile?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NFHimself:
Have a look here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1014010

Not the modules you are talking about, but same error.

For cifs/smb I ended up using smbnetfs, taking advantage of the fuse fs already in place. /dev/fuse has to be set group fuse with rw for group, and user adas has to be in group fuse.

Cheers!
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] turboblaz:
Hi is it possible too change that menu icons to look more like gingerbread and not just setting menu but every thing with that orange indicator wich show you that u at the end or at the begining of the paige?

Thx 4 reply and i know that is silly question ;)
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] Rekooo:
I was editing some icons at settings.apk when I saw this thread. Yup it's possible. I believe that everything is possible. :)

Using Kyrillo's ROM v2.3
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] FadeFx:
Lets say nearly everything...
[Galaxy 3 Android Development] turboblaz:
OK so can someone use this in custom rom which is gingerbread. themed?thx
[Milestone XT720 General] R-D:
Not sure which ROM version this started with, may just have been D3xter's 1.3

When trying to upload anything the upload just freezes. This happens uploading to DropBox, to Facebook, when starting the upload test in the SpeedTest.net app, when tethered and I try to send something, pretty well every time an upload begins.

It is not my carrier as my wife's phone works just fine (hers is still on 2.1).

Has anyone else experienced this, any suggestions?
[Milestone XT720 General] mintaeroboy:
Try using a different sim card
[Milestone XT720 General] mintaeroboy:
Also does it happen on wi-fi?
[Milestone XT720 General] Accophox:
Wind has issues with uploads over 3g, intermittedly. Its a known issue, and also occurs on the laptop dongles too. (I have both services through wind)

Best suggestion is to just phone in and see if you can get tech support on the line to let them know about your issues.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Denavar:
Ahoy! Simply put, I'd like to install a new boot animation on my rooted HTC Desire HD running Android Revolution HD 3.0.

I've searched how to do this but I don't exactly understand.

I understand that I can 'push' the new bootanimation.zip to data/local via ADB, but some guides/installation tutorials have simply said 'copy bootanimation.zip to data/local.'

I'd much prefer to be able to simply copy the .zip to data/local and not have to deal with ADB as I have not yet used it, but how do I do this? Am I misunderstanding?

I thought 'copy to data/local' would be as simple as using for example, Astro File Manager and copying the new bootanimation.zip from my SDcard to data/local, however there is no 'local' folder inside of the 'data' folder and the option to create a new folder is greyed-out.

Long story short:

What's the simplest method of installing a bootanimation?

Can I simply 'copy bootanimation.zip to data/local?' If so, how?

If I have to use ADB to install the bootanimation, what is the exact process of doing this?

I'm sure this has been asked before, but my searches confused me more than cleared anything up. Thank you for any help in advance!
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flussen:
You need a program like root explorer(es file explorer with root access should work too) for the copy/paste method because the bootanimation.zip isn't stored at your sd card but at the phones internal memory.

At the root of your phone you should see folders like sdcard, dev, root and many more. One of them is called data. In this folder there is one called local. There should be a file called bootanimation.zip. just replace this file with your bootanimation.zip.

Normally it can't damage your phone when your bootanimation has a wrong format or whatever. If the new file is broken, you'll get a black screen instead of an animation but the phone will boot anyway ;)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Denavar:
I see the folder you're talking about in both Astro and ES File Viewer, but this 'data' folder is empty by default. There's no bootanimation.zip and there's no 'local' folder.

I'm confused.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vuduninja:
take a look at /system/media
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkoljo:
Use ES File Explorer, and make sure that you enable root mode in settings. Use hiapk mode. Also remount /system and /data, that option is also in the settings.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Denavar:
Thank you. :D This worked perfectly. I wasn't aware I needed to do this. Thanks again.

Edit: I've encountered another problem. Whenever I now attempt to access my SD card via ES File Explorer, I get the error "SD Card Unmounted or not present." How do I rectify this? It works fine in Astro.

Edit 2: I attempted to unmount /system and /data simply by unticking the option in ES (i'm really only just starting to delve into this sort of thing now and don't know what I'm doing.) and it says 'failed to mount'. How do I fix this also? ;P

Edit 3: Re-installing ES File Explorer fixed the above two issues, but I assume it will do the exact same thing again. For the time being and a short fix, is re-installing the app each time OK? I don't exactly know what 'failed to mount' or 'SD Card unmounted or not present' errors mean. I get the idea, but I'm not sure if they're really doing any damage.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] discopotato:
I found my original boot animation in '/system/customize/resource/' and replaced with a custom one. Worked!
[Atrix 4G General] JasjarMan:
I'm loving it, the browser is nice and fast enough. I also use the miren and xscope browser from the phone and works great. Once I'm done doing what I need I undock the phone and I can continue where I left of.

Wish the price was cheaper but so far its awesome.
[Atrix 4G General] emoose:
I love the laptop dock.

Cost was not a factor for the phone and dock so that takes thie second thoughts out of the equation.

The build/fit and finish were just about perfect and feel very high end like a MacBook pro or think pad from the good old days.

The webtop experience is very useable and great for remote desktop and citrix.

Once the webtop gets more hackable it will be near perfect. I really have to keep reminding myself that this is a phone even though it has nearly the same hardware as the xoom

No regrets here.
[Atrix 4G General] theoski:
I was going to return it today but after playing with citrix. I found some more use for it.

It definitely needs some work:

- better screen. Bad viewing angles, blacks are pretty bad.

- needs better keyboard. I find myself hitting wrong keys because the keyboard is a bit off center.

- needs a built-in 720p cam for video conferencing

- while charging the power light in the corner keeps blinking, what kind of usability genius thought of that.

- better trackpad, just take ques from unibody macbook and move on motorola. No multi-touch???

- needs to be lighter, from the tear down, this hardware is way from being optimized. Again take apart macbook air. They can definitely fit a bigger battery. Seems like a lot of unnecessary plastic.

- the phone needs to have more memory. I open 2-3 browser windows and I get a low memory warning. I would like to android to be more aware of the dock, for example killing browser process while in the dock to shift more memory to firefox.

What I love though is this and I think this is truly revolutionary, is the convergence of the cell phone with laptop. I think through combination of cloud computing and virtualization this could be the future of mobile computing.

Not to mention how cool would be to have a linux webtop vs honeycomb webtop (native no emulation).

What I am hoping is going to happen that other companies will realize that this is just an accessory and that we could have several options for laptop docks. I could see this as a huge market for enterprise customers.
[Atrix 4G General] JasjarMan:
I did not know that the webtop can be hacked? What have you guys hacked so far?
[Atrix 4G General] CC Lemon:
I'm really interested to try it out, but don't know if I can justify the expense. Like a lot of other people have concluded, I'd kind of rather a netbook of equal (or lesser) value along side my phone instead of that. If it was a tad bit cheaper or had a few more features to offer, I might be sold.
[Atrix 4G General] JasjarMan:
Buy it at best buy and try it for a few days. you dont like it take it back, end of story. having a netbook and atrix is like having two devices. atrix and laptop dock is like having ONE device!

If all you do in a laptop is browse the web and email, this dock is for you!
[Atrix 4G General] lightswitch2159:
personally, I hate it. It's like working out of a Altoids tin.
[Atrix 4G General] CC Lemon:
To an extent I agree. It's like having one device in the fact that one is entirely useless without the other. So functionally, you have one device. So you have the functionality of one device, but have to carry around 2 devices and pay the price of 2 devices. I can't say I agree with the concept of paying $400 for the laptop dock that requires the phone to work when I could spend that same amount of money to get a netbook with a significantly higher level of capabilities. If I buy a netbook, I get 250 gb of memory, 2 GB ram, built in camera AND a full OS.

Basically, my complaint is: You pay more for the atrix + laptop dock to get less functionality than you could get out of a netbook that costs the same as the dock alone.

If it had the option to utilize additional ram built into the dock as well as hard drive space/flash memory for additional storage then it might be a bit more worth it. Right now, you're paying $400 for a screen, battery, dock, keyboard and track pad that all require an additional device to function.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea and would love to own one. I have no doubt I would make good use of it. I just see no reason to buy it at that price other than having the extra money and nothing better to spend it on (and I can think of quite a few better things to spend $400 on). It really needs a lower price, more features or a mix of both.
[Atrix 4G General] JasjarMan:
You CAN add more memory like USB flash drives. They work just don't know many MB it will read.....
[Atrix 4G General] gordesky1:
One thing what the atrix+ laptop dock wins over netbooks is its lighter and another is the battery life which is really really great on the dock and also charges the phone, About a year ago i bought a asus 1201n which is a powerful netbook which has duel core and nvidia ion 12.1in screen pretty loaded which i paid 579$ for it but the battery life sucks on it 3hours too max 4hours if you lower all the power options which makes it slower which is useless like the screen brightness.

With the laptop dock the battery seems too last forever even with the screen brightness on max lol. Hopefully they can make it a bit faster threw a update but i made it faster on browsing which i turn flash off and it ony will work when i click on the ad or video and that made it faster.

Pretty much what you paying for is the build quality metal casing which feels more solid than my 1201n netbook and the screen is also better and the keyboard i really love on the laptop dock.

I paid 299$ for it from qt&t store which was suppose too be 399 than 100$ off threw a 100 rebate but they waive it for me because i had the phone before i bought the dock. But ya for 500 or 599$ regular price that some places selling it for that's too much and i wouldn't pay that much, even at 400$ i was thinking of not getting it.

Would be nice if other company would make there netbooks build quality like this product.
[Atrix 4G General] CC Lemon:
Even with great build quality, I'm still running into that block of it being really expensive for not a whole lot in terms of functionality (compared to what you could get at that price). Even at $300, I feel like I'd rather a netbook of equal cost to pair with the atrix. I'd have to see the dock dropping below $250 to consider it and below $200 to actually decide for sure I want it. Honestly, I'd just love to see it offer slightly improved performance when the phone is connected. That's something I could justify.
[Atrix 4G General] gordesky1:
I could see it dropping down too 250$ in the future, But under 200$ i would think maybe in couple years, Sense right now the media dock is even 99$.

But i get what you mean its just a screen keyboard and mouse and battery which was making me hard too decide if it was worth it, But mainly why i got it is so i can take it too work and don't have too worrying about plugging it in too charge anything, Which with my netbook or laptop i had too take the ac adapter and find a outlet were i am at. With this i don't have too worry about that. I also like how thin it is so i can fit it in a small sleeve or case.

I know there's netbooks out there with great battery life too but i got too many laptops/netbooks.. lol

But ya this dock isn't for everyone.

And if i wanted too sell my atrix i would sell the laptop dock too with it and i would get more than what i paid for both of them, And this dock might be universal for motos future phones hopefully that's if i buy another moto phone because so far the atrix boot loaded is lock tight still:( But it has ony been out like 2weeks ony.

I also hope they release updates too make the docks faster and more customizable.

One problem is i also have a galaxy tab with 3g sprint plan... lol Wish i knew about the atrix and dock before i bought the galaxy tab.. But i did get a good deal on the tab.
[Atrix 4G General] CC Lemon:
I definitely hope they continue this concept because it seems like it will only get more and more useful as these phones get more powerful. If it becomes available on more devices in the future, it will definitely help the pricing as we wont get suck covering the initial development/design costs.

Who's looking forward to the first "tablet dock"? :rolleyes: