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[HTC Inspire 4G] bella92108:
If it goes to UMTS it'd say "3G" not H+... HSDPA isn't "4G" so not sure what you're getting at... are you reversing letters?
[HTC Inspire 4G] prking07:
well if you would pay atention, the H+ icon is a hoax, its there if its 3g or 4g. what were talking about is the actual reading of the network in settings-about phone-network. there you can see actual conected type to the network(gprs,edge,umts or hsdpa). if you go there on any android gsm phone(including inspire 4g) you will see that hspda is onlly available when using internet, the rest of the time is either umts,edge or gprs!

and dude beleive me this phone will never show hspa+ in the network conected type! we have hspa+ rolled out here, and i have hit ridicoulous speeds and all it states is hsdpa in connection type! Dont mistake the H+ icon to actual 4g, thats everybodys mistake! look at atts faq about 4g, it states that the H+ icon will appear in 3g and 4g areas!
[HTC Inspire 4G] bella92108:
Then "dude," why are you complaining and even commenting then? The AT&T 3G network has the capability to go up to 7.2mbps... let's see your speedtest showing you've surpassed that. Otherwise, as you stated, you have no indication that you're on 4G vs 3G

For your own sake, please drop the "dude" from your vocabulary online when you're trying to demonstrate knowledge. :-)
[HTC Inspire 4G] laxwillsch:
I think you are misunderstanding. On a rooted phone there is no longer a H+ symbol, it is replaced with a H. The H+ symbol is a marketing ploy by att that shows either when there is 3g or HSDPA, but doesn't let you know which. When you root you get a different symbol that shows what your actually on whether it is 3g or HSDPA. IT ACTUALLY SAYS 3G on the top, so he does in fact know what kind of connection he is getting. And dude, watch your tone on XDA you sound like a troll.
[HTC Inspire 4G] bella92108:
I believe it's YOU that is misinformed. On a ROOTED phone, there most certainly still is a H+, unless you're applying a ROM that has it removed. Many of the Desire based ROMs don't show H+ because they didn't have H+ on a DesireHD.

You need to stop saying things if you don't understand what you're saying, because it only serves to confuse others. The action of rooting in itself does NOT remove the H+ logo. SOME Roms may remove it, but as a result of that particular ROM actually modifying it.

I don't think I sound like a troll, I just don't speak if I'm just making it up.
[HTC Inspire 4G] bella92108:
Then again I am not sure what the issue is, the HSDPA chipset that is inside the Inspire "4G" supports up to 14mbps... so it's going to always say HSDPA if you're in a "4G" area anyhow.

I' only with San Francisco's "4G-like speeds" were actually like 4G speeds, haha.
[HTC Inspire 4G] prking07:
hellooouuuuuu! im not on Att. i live in Puerto Rico and i am with Claro! weve had hspa+ for a couple of moths now and i have surpased 7.2mb dl and 2mb ul. i have have hit as high as almost 9mb dl! And the freaking phone only shows its connected to hsdpa, not hspa+(yes the H+ icons shows), but the H+ icon shows even if i am connected to umts and not hsdpa! whats so hard to understand! Anymore speedtests you need, let me know i can keep them coming all night long!
[HTC Inspire 4G] bella92108:
Clearly you didn't READ. HSDPA on the Inspire 4G is CAPABLE of going up to 14.2mbps, so CLEARLY you're within the parameters of HSDPA.

But you enjoy your Puerto Rican "Claro!" coverage... when their website says your phone will let you "use your phone in 99% of the world" that alone says enough for me to discredit anything that follows. In an impoverished territory that'd fit into the city of Los Angeles, I'm unimpressed.
[HTC Inspire 4G] prking07:
Clearly u know jack bout Claro, were 3d largest provider in the world with over 230million subscribers and counting. More than att, verizon and tmobile us combined!
[HTC Inspire 4G] bella92108:
J

Re read what I said. Bye.

PS - If you're going to compare size of providers, you may not want to stack against others unless you're comparing to other subsidiary\parent relationships. Verizon, who's majority ownership is Vodaphone, is much larger than Claro and all associated carriers in the JV family.

My POINT with what I stated in regards to their claims, is that on their website they claim to have coverage on 99% of the planet, which is a farse as less than 10% of the planet is currently covered. My assumption is they mean they have roaming relationships covering 99% of the population. The statistic is still very suspect, but not really all that abnormal. Bottom line, when Puerto Rico has a land mass that's bigger than one metropolitan city in the US, then someone might take notice, but just like Iowa wireless has great coverage in Iowa, that's all they have. lol
[HTC Inspire 4G] prking07:
Maybe you need to re read, or better yet let me know where it states 98% of the world. You just make no sence in your comments. Im clearly stating that no matter what you wint see hspa+ in any phone, in the connected type! Forget the icon! Its all hsdpa, hspa+ is same thing with faster data transfers! Desire hd has same data rates as inspire, do you see hspa+ no! Atrix has same data rates , do you see hspa+ no. Tmobiles 4g phones have hspa+ no! All they show is connected to hsdpa(at higher rates hence hspa+) but give you a silly H+ icon so you think hspa+ us some new technology utilizing new bands, or spectrum or what ever! they can gives us a 10g icon when connected to edge for what they care, is all a mimick! Same thing when transitioning from 3g to 3.5g 3.75g! Same tech more speed! The real difference is LTE, period!
[HTC Inspire 4G] bella92108:
I apologize for the statements I made. It's become clear that english is your second language, so there's some communication gap.

http://www.claropr.com/eng/print_popup.php?id=190&type=sc

As it states on your carrier's webpage, "Claro offers you a 99% of world coverage (see map)" which is odd, tho a carrier advertising a Motorola Razr, with programming instructions for a CDMA phone, talking about covering 99% of the world, it's like they took all the BS they could think up and threw it onto one page.

Either way, I'm done with this conversation. For you to compare the coverage of a single-territory the size of Los Angeles to the entire United States is not even a good comparison. Happy you're able to get 7mbps in your "territory" of 3.8M people... guess that's why the Senate keeps voting not to make PR a state, they don't want to ruin your "4G" data speeds.... :-)
[HTC Inspire 4G] prking07:
You must be the dumbest person in all XDA! Getting a almost 3 year nin existing page here, with non existant translation! Its Clarotodo.com for your info, and you dont get coverage sitting next to a tower all by yourself so dont go there! And last but not least, again you know jack about the senate and decisions, as much as you know bout hspa+. Dont worry, ill give you till december 23, 2012 to wait for the hspa+ to show in your network conection before the end of the world! Maybe that comes before!
[HTC Inspire 4G] Twenty4:
I have noticed for the past two days that allot of areas that were HSPA are now showing only UMTS. Hopefully it means things are getting prepped for backhaul. I still wont believe it till I see it.
[HTC Inspire 4G] RogerPodacter:
I haven't seen that switching, but I'll go play with some of those phones today and check it out. On my nexus one, it shows Hsdpa in the settings menu all the time for the last year. I've never once seen it say umts. But this is a non-ATT phone so who knows what specification ATT is using.
[HTC Inspire 4G] bella92108:
So I've figured out that there is HSPA+ in San Francisco after all. I bought one of the AT&T Shockwave (Sierra Wireless USB 308), and rather than installing AT&TConnect, I got the Generic Non Branded Sierra Wireless Air Card Watcher, which diagnoses the signals available. It shows here in San Francisco I'm getting HSPA+... still only actually seeing 4.1mbps down, and 1.4mbps up, but hey, at least the technology is confirmed deployed, so once backhaul is running it'll work :-)

... Now if only I could convince my Inspire to get 4mbps :-( If I get 2.5 it's a good day....
[HTC Inspire 4G] RogerPodacter:
Interesting news, I just experienced this issue today. My icon would camp on 3g till I did something that transmitted data and it would switch to hsdpa icon. It was bouncing back and forth constantly. This was in an area I go on a weekly basis, so its definitely new. Where I am now is back to the old way.

This was on a nexus one. So it definitely seems to be network dependent. And ATT must be making changes in that area. Curious what they are doing. Speeds there were 2 down and 1 up.
[Defy General] realityrat:
I just downloaded the 2.2.1 Froyo 34.4.9 update.zip and am really anxious to give it a try. I'm kinda new at this, I have a rooted Defy (Superoneclick method) and I did root and flash a custom ROM on my CliqXT (adb push method) and have both working good. So, I'm not completely dumb to this stuff but I read in a couple of the thread posts that some people have had issues with 3G and WiFi after installing this update. I do believe that troubleshooting that stuff might be a bit over my head so I'm just wondering if this has been an on going issue or if its rare? If I follow the posted instructions correctly do I have a good chance at ending up with a trouble free version of Foyo? FYI...My Defy is Rooted (factory ROM) 2.1 update1 with Blur Version 3.6.36 and I have a Nandroid backup.
[Defy General] realityrat:
I wasnt sure where to post my previous question since I found the info in the Dev's forums, but I guess because I haven't posted at least 10 times I wasn't allowed to post my question in the Dev's thread I got the .zip from. Funny because I saw a post from someone that didnt even know what "root of the sd card" was but they're allowed to post in that thread. Not trying to offend anyone just making an observation. New to this site so I'm just learning the rules.
[Defy General] ketonkss4:
I dont think you should be so anxious I upgraded today and the only issue was that it was initially a bit slow but after a few minutes everything was zipping along perfectly.. My 3g is just fine and my Wifi as well. I was able to reroot using superoneclick (update undoes root), and overclock using milestone-overclock app.

I was getting near a near 1000 quadrant score at stock b4 overclocking and got in the 1400's after overclocking to 1200mhz @80.

If you follow the directions it should work no prob.. Welcome to froyo
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
Those problems you mentioned only apply to the leaked FroYo SBF files. And it only affects those that flash the SBFs to phones that are not specific to that SBF.

I flashed the leaked FroYo for T-Mo USA on my T-Mo USA Defy and had no problems.

You should be fine with the official update.

If you can, please make a nandroid after you update and post it here...

Thanks!
[Defy General] hah2110:
Are common folk getting the update today?
[Defy General] scrannel:
On the Moto forum an Admin is asking for any issues discovered by those who have updated to 2.2. Not sure if this means they're still trying to sort it.

https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/335597#335597
[Defy General] realityrat:
"Common Folks?" Wow, I hope that wasnt supposed to be some kind of insult. You should remember something, its us "common folks" that have the clean Nandroid backups the Dev's seem to be needing, its us "Common Folks" that flash the custom ROMS and donate to the Dev's in appreciation for their hard work. But if us "common folk" aren't welcome here then I can leave because the last time I checked I was able to root and install custom ROMS on both of my phones without your help. Not bad for "common folk"
[Defy General] hah2110:
Lol you took my comment way out of context. I'm not a dev. I don't even have a defy. I'm about intermediate android when it comes to roms, flashing, etc.

I simply meant that, until now, you needed to root, install custom os, etc to get froyo.
[Defy General] realityrat:
Ok, sorry about that. The official OTA 2.2 release was done for a limited time a month or so ago (supportforums.motorola.com/thread/44255?start=0&tstart=0). I have a rooted Defy with custom recovery and download the update.zip from the Dev's forum. Sorry if I wasnt clear about that.
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
Hi! So what about that nandroid?
[Defy General] realityrat:
I havent installed the OS yet. I got a little more research to do but once I do it I'll be happy to provide the Nandroid. I have a couple questions about the current status of my SD card that I wanna look into first. Hopefully i'll be running Froyo in the next day or so and will provide the Nandroid ASAP.
[Defy General] cocobe:
I would like to know if I have Clockwork Recovery installed, can I still flash the official rom using the Update.zip file on SD card? Thanks.
[Defy General] realityrat:
Just want to be clear on the Nandroid backup. Are you asking me to make the backup right after flashing new OS before anything else gets installed? Basically a stock Defy running Froyo? If you give me details on what you're wanting it'll help alot with my learning process and it'll help make sure that you get what you're looking for. And does a Nandroid backup contain all info thats on SD card?
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
Yes, a Nandroid right after you update so that none of your data is on there and everything is stock.

Nope, the contents of the SD Card are not included when you make a Nandroid...

Thank you, your help is appreciated!
[Defy General] darule_2011:
Do you have any suggestions as to how to backup? I rooted the official (beta) tmous 2.2 with superoneclick (Z4 didn't work), and tried to install tenfars recovery module, however, it won't work with this rom. Is there another one that you suggest to use?
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
Try this one: kb7sqi's Recovery

Also, have you tried disabling USB Debugging before booting to recovery on Tenfar's Recovery?

You'll have to do that for it to work. The same goes for kb7sqi's Recovery.

Nasty bug or something...
[Defy General] darule_2011:
this version doesn't work on this rom either...and the updated version was pulled.
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
Replied to your PM.

You can use Tenfar's and even kb7's old one. They both work.

You just need to disable USB Debugging before rebooting to recovery...
[Defy General] darule_2011:
Thanks Beach Head...got it running...will post soon.
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
Fantastic!

I'll be waiting...
[Defy General] darule_2011:
didn't think of this until now...will this nandroid backup have my personal information on it, email/blur account info and other personal data on it? What is the way around this?
[Defy General] zencoran:
heres my suggestion to making a nandroid backup if your worried, backup your current setup with all the apps and info, then wipe everything, make another backup and upload it here, and then restore your original backup
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
+1

After you've backed everything up via Titanium and wipe to factory, no private data will be on it so in essence it's brand new.

Doing what zencoran posted isn't necessary but will give you peace of mind...

Thanks!
[Defy General] realityrat:
steps to upgrade

Since everyone's phone has different setups I just want to make sure I'm understanding how this will work for my setup. My phone is rooted with custom recovery but still has all preloaded bloatware. I used Titanium Backup to "freeze" apps I didnt want running instead of uninstalling or renaming. I have "defosted" those apps now so my phone is currently a stock rooted defy with all preloaded apps and apps I downloaded and installed. I have a current Nandroid back up and the backup I made when I first rooted. So the process I was gonna use is flash Froyo using stock recovery. Verify that phone is working properly, do a factory wipe using stock recovery and make a Nandroid backup after wipe using custom recovery. That's the backup I could post here on this thread. After that I can reinstall my backup to retrieve all my apps. Am I missing anything or just doing this all wrong?
[Defy General] realityrat:
Sorry everyone. No Nandroid backup. Install didnt work. Got status 7 error and couldnt find info on what to do.
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
Let's enumerate the process:

1. Verify that you are running firmware: Defy 3.6.360 Update which is the latest 2.1 update for the Defy and is required by the latest 2.2 update.

2. Make a Nandroid back-up of your current setup so that you won't lose any data.

3. Boot into recovery and update to the latest firmware: 34.4.9 which has Froyo.

4. Verify that everything went smoothly.

5. Make a Nandroid back-up of your current setup so that you won't lose any data.

6. Boot into recovery and wipe cache.

7. Do a factory reset.

8. Make a Nandroid back-up for posting.

9. Restore your FroYo Nandroid.

That should do it...
[Defy General] realityrat:
The firm ware is correct but I get a status 7 error when I try to update from zip. It says assert failed : appliy_patch_ check ("system/bin/logwrapper") Installation aborted. It wont let me go any further. All I can do is boot normal. I tried redownloading the zip file but no luck.
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
runeblade also had that problem. You'll have to delete that file so that the update will continue...

You can read his statement here: runeblade logwrapper problem

Thanks!
[Defy General] realityrat:
It just says to delete the logwrapper, I looked in the zip file and didnt see any such file. Dont know what to do.
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
Do you have Root File Explorer?

Go to the system folder and then the bin folder inside of that. You should see a file named logwrapper. Press the RW button on the top right to make the system writeable. Delete the logwrapper file and you should be good to go...

If you don't have Root File Explorer, let me know and I'll post shell commands...
[Defy General] realityrat:
Is that the system folder of the phone or the zip file?
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
System folder of the phone...
[Defy General] realityrat:
There are 2 logwrapper files in the system folder of the phone. Do I need to remove them both?
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
There are 2 logwrapper files in the bin folder?

Make sure you're in "system/bin"

You're looking for "logwrapper", not "logwrapper.bin"
[Defy General] realityrat:
Ok, one is logwrapper and one is logwrapper.bin. Sorry, I didnt notice that. So i just delete the logwrapper file and try to install zip again? What happens to my phone if that dont work? Is it sill useable without the file?
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
Yes, that should do it...

Yes, it will still work. It's just for logs...

If you'd like to play it safe, rename it to something else instead of deleting it. That way you can come back to it later...
[Defy General] realityrat:
its stuck in a boot loop. Any suggestions?
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
WTF?!

Try booting into recovery and then deleting the cache...
[Defy General] realityrat:
that didnt work. Still boot looping.
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
Can you get a logcat?

No one has reported that happening during the upgrade so it's weird that you're encountering it...

What did you do before it started bootlooping?
[Defy General] realityrat:
I dont know what a logcat is. All I did was delete the file and rebooted to install the zip. I still got the status 7 error so I told it to reboot normal.
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
Oh! Well you can just restore the nandroid you made prior to updating...

What was the error that you got?
[Defy General] realityrat:
Yea, I have the backups. How do I get into custom recovery while its boot looping? The error was the same logswapper error. But I deleted it and made sure not to delete the logswapper.bin. So I dont know what happened.
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
Turn the phone off and then press the down volume button while pressing the power button...
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
I think it's detecting that you're running Clockwork and won't allow you to continue...

Anyway, I believe Recovery is the culprit. Since it's the one using logwrapper.

Uninstall Recovery and then try installing the update via the stock Recovery.

You shouldn't have any more problems via that method...
[Defy General] realityrat:
That just takes me to stock recovery. I have a tenfar custom recovery (I think thats the name) and you have to boot with the app. Its ok for now. I have another phone so I can research this some.
[Defy General] realityrat:
When I changed the system to writable and deleted the file I just closed out of root explorer. Did I need to change the RW back. I dont know if I did or not? Is there a way for me to check that?
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
I believe you bootlooped because Tenfar's Recovery uses logwrapper and couldn't find it when you deleted it and booted normally. Not sure why that's part of the bootstrap process...

Just boot into stock recovery and wipe data, re-install Tenfar's recovery and then restore your nandroid to get your phone back to normal.
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
It shouldn't have mattered.

Try updating via Stock Recovery and without Tenfar's Custom Recovery installed.

That should work better...
[Defy General] realityrat:
can you tell me how to install the tenfar recovery. Can I flash it with a zip file? I'll have to look into that after work.
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
Just install it like you did last time...

But you'll need to be able to boot first. So just boot into stock recovery, wipe your data and once your phone has booted, install Tenfar's Recovery and then restore your Nandroid...
[Defy General] runeblade:
I'll get you a nandroid backup here shortly beach. I know you have been waiting. It's actually already been done, I just have to get it off the SD card. Hopefully I'll have it up in a few hours.
[Defy General] runeblade:
Okay...so here is the deal. When you deleted logwrapper, you needed to copy and rename logwrappper.bin to logwrapper. From what I've read you didn't do that. That could very well be your issue now. Ontop of that are you using the recovery thats designed for the defy of tenfar's normal version? You may now be at a point where the only way to unbrick your phone is to flash an SBF and then wait for a nandroid.
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
Thanks! I'll be waiting...

I really need to get off of this leaked build...
[Defy General] runeblade:
Yeah...about that nandroid backup........I don't know if its specific to this device or 2.2...but even a clean wipe of the defy still included alot of my apps in it...its kinda weird. Until I am a 100% sure that nothing personal is contained within I won't be posting it up. I'll try and make sure its clean as quick as I can but I may need a few more days. Sorry for the delay. BTW...with the luck I'm having you may want to stick to the leaked build. Thats still running strong on my other defy.
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
Ouch! But okay...
[Defy General] drwario:
Running on the official mobile update. Runs great for me. Benchmarked consistently around 950 quaderant at 600 mhz and 48 vsel. Set cache pressure at 20. Dirty ratio at 70. Dirty background 40. Minimum free 4096 kb. I tremendously reduced the load on the system now underclocked I have a very respectable system
[Defy General] Beach_Head:
If anyone else can post a stock Nandroid, I'd really appreciate it...
[Defy General] runeblade:
Sorry Man. I really want to get this out there. I just have to make sure it is clean. Way to much business and personal stuff on this phone to make a screw-up. I'm just kinda amazed that I put this update out there....everyone seems to be using it, yet no-one else can post a nandroid backup......weird.
[Defy General] huumm:
Root File Explorer ? Is that an app that I can get it from market place ? I'm also stuck with the logwrapper error.