yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xoom Accessories] El Daddy:
Ask and you shall receive :)

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/UFGiTkMTjUaAWI_HLfdIfP33b9kyUtk9JEAEd10goeA?feat=directlink
[Xoom Accessories] funnycreature:
Thanks again :D Now I just have to find it at the best price! \m./
[Xoom Accessories] El Daddy:
No problem. Its $63 right now on amazon.
[Xoom Accessories] funnycreature:
Damn! Last night it was available for ~$57 :(
[Xoom Accessories] JerryGilreath:
$59 at walmart.

(also note, I got my VZW store to match Walmart's online price and did a walk-in-pick-up... but it has to be a REAL VZW store, not an affiliate/franchise.)
[Xoom Accessories] funnycreature:
Thanks mate but with tax that's the same as amazon :(
[Xoom Accessories] JerryGilreath:
True... however, with site-to-store, there is no shipping. And if you were to get vzw to match, you'd win twice :-)

Still taxed tho.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] eqzgkxokwa:
i need a rom with wm 6.5 german and with hard spl

my roms are cancel by 2 or 3 % and my phone will restart

please worked rom!!!
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
If you think Sprint's customer service sucks, the grass is not always greener on the other side.

http://newsroom.sprint.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=1803

Sent from my spaceship!
[EVO 4G General] flipper12:
More like "Used" to think their services stinks...

.... but not anymore.

The problem Sprint is facing is common - receiving great customer service is always assumed but is quickly forgotten. However, when you receive terrible customer service, it isn't easily forgotten. And that's what MANY of Sprint's past customers received, especially after the Sprint-Nextel merge fiasco and resulting blown customer service and experience. They've made great inroads to rectify that but it's still taking a LONG time for the public to acknowledge it.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
More due to the fact of their never say no policy. Now customers think their CS sucks because people are told "no" an used to being told yes, no matter how outrageous the request. I remember when reps had over $500 adjustment credit per account.

Sent from my spaceship!
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
i have to say the last time i talked to a CSR she was very helpful . now the "advance tech guy was a total ass lol . basically i was told it was my phone and not the network .. so they sent me out replacement .. not sure why but hey ill roll with it
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
I hate tech support

Sent from my spaceship!
[EVO 4G General] SilverStone641:
They wouldn't be so bad if they understood when i told them i'm an "advanced user" but no. they have to go all the way through their scripts. :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
hel the douche try to now let me get a word in .. keyword TRIED
[Nook Color General] Kayak83:
So where is the promised January/mid-February NC 2.2 update from B&N??? Here's what I found recently:

"B&N plans to update the OS sometime in 2011. Regarding applications, we are committed to the NOOKdeveloper program and on track to add apps to our store in early 2011, but do not have plans enable Android Marketplace at this time."
[Nook Color General] barrist:
It was never promised. Just rumoured. And then pretty much debunked:

http://nookappreview.com/2010/12/31/nook-apps-might-arrive-in-march-2011-developer-mode-in-jan-2011/
[Nook Color General] Kayak83:
Still sounds promising seeing how i'ts March already. But it looks like it's more of a refined update as opposed to a general android OS update. The inclusion of flash would be nice. And if they are in charge of making flash available then maybe we'll get a decent working version of one a little easier.
[Nook Color General] Deleted member 3767071:
The current build just feels sluggish. Especially the browser. Hopefully they can rectify that in whatever updates they have brewing.

In general I think BN just needs to get the app store out but maybe they are waiting on actual developers for this? At the very least...Facebook, Twitter, instant messaging, e-mail, Youtube, etc. would be nice. Support for more types of video codecs as well as allowing side loaded content to be added to the home screen would help make those features actually useful. I think they really are a few steps away from the stock, unrooted OS being decent enough where some of us less adventurous people will be dissuaded from going through the trouble of rooting.

Web browsing is a lot worse than on my iPhone 4 at the moment. The video quality on m.youtube is a horrendous pixelated mess. No difference at all between HQ and Normal.
[Nook Color General] chris peas:
To watch YouTube in HD, dig around for and install "signed_YouTube.apk". I believe this is the gingerbread version and plays YouTube vids in HD on the nook properly
[Nook Color General] Admiralvic:
I could see them waiting for more apps... its also possible their riding the hype and waiting for it to die down before releasing it.

However as I + others have said... theres NO REASON for B&N to update the nook. At least from a android firmware standpoint
[Nook Color General] ADude:
According to a B&N employee, there will be an update to stock NC to Android 2.2 based firmware which will also support Flash, at the end of March.

Remember that this is third-hand, may be incorrect, and could be delayed even if it is correct.
[Nook Color General] cheezer38:
I really wish there was going to 2.2 update. :(
[Nook Color General] A. Nonymous:
I heard the same thing from an employee except it was 2-3 weeks ago and the date they gave was the end of February.
[Nook Color General] acomiskey:
That may not be true, it depends upon how "Enhanced NookBooks" will work, which according to their website are coming soon. Flash maybe?
[Nook Color General] online142154:
I had not seen this thread and I just got back from BN. I showed the guy my rooted Nookand he was impressed.. although I dont think he liked my kindle app.

He did volunteer that there would be an update by the end of March. What was included .. he did not say.
[Nook Color General] Deleted member 3767071:
We can hope and dream can we not? :(
[Nook Color General] notinterested:
If a B&N store employee is telling you when the update is coming they are talking out of their anus.

No company is going to give out any information like that to bottom level sales employees. When B&N settles on an official date they will at best give the employees a couple days warning.

Honestly we will probably know when its coming before the employees do.
[Nook Color General] Deleted member 3767071:
I've seen some stores have specific Nook "experts" that just hang around the Nook kiosks all day long and they probably have more general knowledge about the product than say the cashiers or regular employees. I wouldn't say its impossible that an employee knows info that we don't. Or they could read forums like this too. :p
[Nook Color General] Admiralvic:
Well you have to remember this wasnt the first time we went down this road. I remember when every employee was saying the app store + 2.2 would come out in January... then it was Feb, now its end of march... I wouldnt be shocked if these people are just relying on luck, and assuming things.

Not everyone, employees included know that theres android on the low... its always possible that they just think were on Nook firmware 2.1, and just say a date for the next update as its possible.

Logically speaking, if the nook was getting an upgrade... and the employees actually knew, and were telling it why wouldnt it get announced? With something like 2.2, its not like B&N is going to just release it without trying to nab sales.
[Nook Color General] ADude:
I really respect delays in software releases.

This means that the managers are allowing the programmers to fix the bugs, instead of heeding the CEOs' usual call to "release it now regardless of whether it works right".

I am not referring to any particular company or CEO, but there is always pressure from above to release software before it is stable.

PS How do BN employees know ? Someone has to be doing Beta testing before a release to millions of customers. It is typical for large companies to have employees do Beta testing. It would not be unusual for those Beta testers to get an email with link to "release candidate for public release at the end of the month, so please confirm that you do not have problems with this release". Then when problems are confirmed, release slips to the following month, rinse and repeat.
[Nook Color General] livestrong2012:
Hello,

just wanted to share that just the other day, must have been thursday, A Nook rep at my local B&N store and i got to talking and he said that he had been told that 2.2 will be out this month! and that he was told that in January. Looks like we might be getting luck! Just gotta be patient. Always fun... lol :)
[Nook Color General] tranquilchao5:
I am a digital lead at a BN and I love this forum...
[Nook Color General] Kayak83:
Right.

Although it would be nice to have a B&N rep. mulling around the forum. After all, I think communites like this are best at making products better for everyone else. And forum reading typically are strongly tied and loyal to their device. They also are more likely to spread good PR if they are happy with their product and the company attached to it. Read; OG Droid compared to the Droid X fiasco. Ever wonder why they finally allowed an unlockable bootloader on the Xoom? Something caused them to backtrack a bit...even if we only represent a small percent of the consumer base.
[Nook Color General] Deleted member 3767071:
Spill the beans! :p;):D
[Nook Color General] cheezer38:
If this is true, I cannot wait.
[Nook Color General] :
I was in B&N buying a case this weekend and I heard the Nook rep tell numerous people the update would be out by the end of March. So maybe that will give someone a bit of hope today. :-)
[Nook Color General] constellanation:
Hate to say it but employees, digital leads included, that you see in stores have no more information then you do 99% of the time. Occasionally one may have gotten a small piece of information from a regional or district manager, but even that isn't in stone. They know at most a day before the general public and usually when the announcement is made to the public.

And as of now any update is pure speculation. I'm sure whoever is beta testing or working on the software is swamped with nda's.

That being said I'd love a more tablet like update and soon. Also I would never expect the full android market.
[Nook Color General] Damager78:
I'm sure that whatever they bring out won't be nearly as good as what folks here are doing (rooting, etc., etc.).
[Nook Color General] 511pf:
Not necessarily true. Nook Color development is done out of Silicon Valley (Palo Alto, I believe) and I've heard that developers sometimes visit local stores and drop information. There is one store in particular where the Nook guy seems to be somewhat plugged in to what's going on internally. In most cases, you're right, but in some cases employees may actually have insider info.
[Nook Color General] cabbieBot:
im a DSL and its going to get the update despite the naysayers. A lot of the apps will utilize flash and air thus requiring 2.2. For example, one of the partners is Capsulated Cookbooks, and they will have an app that has recipes with shopping list, instructions and video about how to prepare. They could end up being HTML5 but what this screams at me is that its going to need flash.

You don't have to believe us, because no one knows the future for certain, but we have far more insight into the product from a business strategy standpoint than most people can be. The NookColor is B&N's ace in the hole and its simply unthinkable they won't give it the update. I'd give it 20 to 1 odds. There will be riots in the streets if it doesn't, because we are officially telling people its coming, we have video playing in the store showing off the aforementioned cookbook app, B&N has done a fantastic job of updating the original nook (which is currently had 5 updates, its at 1.5) and adding features (games and web browser) and taking customer suggestions (extra extra large font added, password protection added) even as late as the middle of this past December after the NookColor launched. Did you know that 40% of manager's yearly review is solely dedicated to digital? That's up from 0% before the launch...things like book sales, inventory shrink, meeting payroll budget, music department sales, all made up that review. Now its 40% digital, you better believe this company is taking Nook deadly serious because store manager jobs are basically on the line. I've been scrutinizing every aspect of the digital strategy for months before the original Nook came out in November of 2009 and I think its a near-certainty that 2.2 is in development.
[Nook Color General] constellanation:
I agree with everything you said and guess where I also work? But You proved my point whatever update there may or may not be, when ever it may come is pure speculation at this point as likely or unlikely as it is. Just saying. And those numbers you quoted vary from store to store.
[Nook Color General] Paul22000:
^

Case in point: regarding your last sentence, you work for B&N and don't even know for sure that 2.2 is in development.

Anyway, who cares? Anyone reading this thread is (probably) capable of flashing 2.2 themselves (or 2.3, or Honeycomb).
[Nook Color General] SCWells72:
Well, I for one definitely hope that B&N releases their own version of 2.2+. I keep going back and forth between the (rooted) stock 2.1 and 2.2 on SDHC because there are things about the former I really like (the B&N reader app with full support for children's books, periodicals, etc.; the non-phone-like status bar with soft keys at the bottom) and things about the latter I really like (faster, better Exchange server integration, cut/copy/paste in the keyboard, etc.). I know I can (and have) add most of the 2.2 features to 2.1, but there's still a considerable enough gap between them that I don't have a single "home" yet.

Froyo was a significant update to Android OS across the board. A B&N ROM based on that version (or higher) would give most of us what we're looking for. Yeah, it'd be great if they went all the way to 3.0 for the more tablet-like experience, but minimally I'd love to see 2.2.
[Nook Color General] OB1J3D1:
Sounds a lot like the 2.2 update that I'm supposed to get for my Verizon Fascinate.
[Nook Color General] RileyGrant:
All we need is some updated kernel source and new codecs.

-Evo-
[Nook Color General] cabbieBot:
You missed the point. Theres no reason given every action taken by the company that it won't happen, and skeptics are just going to hand-wave it away. It'd be the same sort of thing as if I said "There will be an iPhone5 this summer" because you just know its going to happen, but since we aren't gifted with premonition, someone can jump in and say "Hey wait a minute, we don't know that."

This is a pointless discussion, because its going to be getting 2.2. I will come here and eat my crow if it doesn't happen, but I don't think for a second I'll have to.
[Nook Color General] bbells:
Man, I really hate to say this, but....

IMHO,

The rooted Nook with 2.1 does everything probably 95% of the NC buyers out there want it to do. In fact, I can do everything I want to do on my 2.1/1.1.0 rooted NC (although, I much, much, prefer reading books on my e-ink Nook).

That being said, I would really like to see 2.2. It isn't so much being able to do just what I want to do, it is being able to do as much as I possibly can. I tried the Honeycomb sd deal, but it just didn't work as well as the standard 2.1/1.1.0 NC OS - Which I am perfectly content with. Still, unless it is fairly inexpensive to do so, I can't see Barnes and Noble bothering with 2.2.

Ok, don't slam me too hard for this.
[Nook Color General] barrist:
They promised 2.2 way back when it launched

http://technologizer.com/2010/10/26/nookcolor/#more-34618

They want to open their own app store, and will likely want Flash support for that.
[Nook Color General] jimbobalu:
Maybe they decided to scrap the work on froyo and go straight to honeycomb? Now wouldn't that just blow our minds if they did that?
[Nook Color General] Kayak83:
HA! That'll be the day.
[Nook Color General] Krazypoloc:
OMG words of truth!!!

I bought a Nook Color a few weeks ago and had it running CM7 nightlies the day I brought it home.....took it into work the next day and showed a few coworkers.....they loved it so much that 3 of them went out and bought one within a week...

Now other side of the coin...I had an OG Droid for a long time and ran CM until the keyboard started acting up....so I RMA'd it and got a Droid 2....boy was I excited!!!! Until I found out about the locked loader.....that still pisses me off to this day....needless to say when people want to see my phone and if I recommend it I tell them to steer clear of any and all Motorola phones.
[Nook Color General] Krazypoloc:
AOSP isn't even out for HC yet....not likely. :)
[Nook Color General] tirantloblanc:
That didnt stop Motorola, Samsun, Toshiba or others...
[Nook Color General] comdei:
Hell yeah, It seems unfair that companies get source but no one else does...
[Nook Color General] Paul22000:
Well, they probably are paying for the privilege.
[Nook Color General] ADude:
The rumor, which supposedly comes from a B&N employee from a B&N department head, is this Thursday.

PS For those not aware, there is a B&N SDK and a B&N App Store Developers site. However, 3rd party developers are supposedly not getting things anywheres as soon as "partner developers".

Expectations are 50-100 apps for B&N App Store launch. I would expect "Angry Birds" (even the Intel Store has that) and similar super-popular apps and productivity apps.
[Nook Color General] johnny15:
I would love to see that! Here's to hoping its true!!! :)
[Nook Color General] Paul22000:
Haha, yeah right.

There's no way not a single news site would not have gotten a hold of this information, when the rumored release is less than 24 hours from now.
[Nook Color General] Midnitte:
Crazier things have happened I suppose
[Nook Color General] dsf3g:
Though I desperately want this to be true, keep in mind that March 31 (last day of Q1, 2011) is next Thursday. I could see the rumor that the store will open "this Thursday" might arise out of someone noting that "next thursday is the last day of Q1, and so the store's got to open by then if B&N wants to keep to their plaedge."
[Nook Color General] Masterface7:
yea Samsung actually released some updates for the galaxy s line
[Nook Color General] ADude:
So, news sites report rumors ?

I thought that is why there are rumor sites ! ;)

It was quoted by one of the Mods in AndroidTablets.Net Forums.

Any such thing could be:

- Made up as a joke by someone

- Distorted by inaccurate repetition (in this case, next Thursday seems more likely)

- Correct when the statement occurred, but changed/delayed by circumstances

- Entirely True

Such are rumors.
[Nook Color General] adunofaiur:
Well, we'll find out tomorrow! I'm betting next Friday though, that's usually when software updates come out for nook color (sans last month).
[Nook Color General] whisper14072:
What will this update mean for rooted nooks? Any ideas? I am new to this and just got my rooted nook all set the way I like... would hate to lose it.. :/
[Nook Color General] ADude:
Get Titanium Backup app and do a backup.

The update would give the following:

- Android 2.2 instead of 2.1

- Adobe Flash !

- B&N App market, initially with 50-100 popular apps

SO, if you are using a rooted stock Nook Color, then ideally, get the update, and then a new rooting procedure should appear shortly thereafter in this Forum, root again, and reinstall from Titanium.

You will then have Android 2.2 and Flash.
[Nook Color General] A. Nonymous:
I would wait to see what happens before reaching for the panic button or even moving it closer so you can hit it if you need to.
[Nook Color General] whisper14072:
great thanks :) makes me feel a but better :)
[Nook Color General] jblues1969:
I think they'll have to get this out in a hurry since Amazon has their appstore online already and they apparently are planning on an Android color Kindle very shortly.

B&N needs to deliver on this or they'll lose whatever advantage they have over Amazon.
[Nook Color General] japzone:
I'm also hoping the NookColor gets a Netflix App. Compared to watching on some Phone, Netflix on the NookColor would be awsome :) It doesn't have to be there at Launch of Store (Android App isn't even out yet) but at least before summer would be great :) By then my 3DS is supposed to have Netflix.

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[Nook Color General] timmyjoe42:
Or that AT+T is buying T-Mobile...I'm surprised no rumors came up before that was officially launched.

A Netflix app is long overdue.
[Nook Color General] :
All I hear is crickets...come on BN.
[Nook Color General] met67:
Looks like rumors may be true and the Update be launched in April:

http://electronics.hsn.com/nook-col...ttr=2774&ocm=na|2774&prev=hp!2774&ccm=na|2774
[Nook Color General] spdsl:
Good find met67
[Nook Color General] bugeyed1:
Wow, I had no idea that the NC cost this much!!! Guess they are adding the value of all those FREE books they are including.

"Sale Price: $299.90

or 4 payments of $74.97

HSN Price: $379.95 | You Save: $80.05 (21%)

Retail Value: $504."

I don't buy the statement that "HSN customers will receive the update first."

Nor would I consider HSN a reliable source for any product info. I do hope the update happens soon.

Cheers,

kev
[Nook Color General] spdsl:
Personally I consider HSN a place where manufactures send their products to die. I hope this isn't the case considering B&N's financial future.
[Nook Color General] victle:
What You Get

NOOK Color tablet

microSD card with 100 eBooks

. . .

Sent from my NookColor
[Nook Color General] davidukfl:
how would B&N be able to differentiate between a nook bought from HSN or a nook bought from Best Buy when sending out updates?

Claiming that HSN customers will get updates first seems a little sketchy to me, unless they are actually selling the Nooks with the latest update pre-installed
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
No argument there. Assuming what HSN has is correct, this will be an update to 2.2...
[Nook Color General] johnny15:
They must have Nooks with the update already otherwise this would just be a ridiculous claim..... although it is HSN, so I wouldn't put it past them to say something like that either...
[Nook Color General] dsf3g:
FWIW:

This is from a post on the Barnes and Noble Nook Color discussion forum:

"I just spoke to B&N customer service and they assured me that the device being sold on HSN is the same as the ones currently in their stores and website. I thought so but I wanted to be sure as I'm thinking about getting one for my father and want to make sure I get the latest.

The rep went on to HSN's website. I asked when the update was coming, she said even they don't know. I asked how it is that HSN is allowed to claim that it's coming in April and that HSN customers will receive the update first. She put me on hold, came back and said thank you for bringing this to their attention and that HSN shouldn't be claiming that. They will supposedly send e-mails either the day before or the day of, she didn't know exactly which."

Thread here: http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com...n-April/m-p/916172/message-uid/916172#U916172
[Nook Color General] timmyjoe42:
Those added features look very appealing.
[Nook Color General] grokdesigns:
This was posted on the nook Facebook page today:
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
They can keep Angry Turds, but Froyo and Flash I'm on board for. :cool:
[Nook Color General] Lemurion287:
Froyo sounds interesting, but I really hope that someone comes up with a way to restore root to previously rooted devices without the need to wipe and reinstall everything.