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[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Basically, MikZ is a Blue/Black themed port of the HTC Desire ROM. It runs the new Sense 2.0 which gives many new functions and widgets that MikFroyo (also themed, but based on Sense 1.0, Froyo 2.2 port) doesn't have. Since MikZ is based upon the Desire it doesn't support 4G (none of the "Z" ports do or probably ever will!).

Performance is pretty comparable between the two. I have been running MikFroyo since it first came out, but now run MikZ because I love the new "gadets" and such. It really comes down to personal taste and the need for 4G. If you must have 4G, then MikFroyo is the way to go. If, like me, you spend a lot of time on WiFi, then MikZ is very nice to play with!

I would recommend reading the Changelogs for each one. They can be found in the 1st post of each of the threads. That will give you an idea of what is different between them. If you are curious, just run one of them for awhile, make a nandroid backup of the one you started with, and then do a full wipe (user data reset, cache and dalvik-cache wipe) and flash the other to compare!

As for me and my house, we prefer MikZ for now:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Man this thread and MikFroyo thread are dead!!

Just to get things started....

BYU's Jimmer Ferdette is #1 College Basketball Player in Nation!! The SI Player of the Year....Scored 52 points in Mountain West Conference Tourney yesterday!! BYU deserves a #1 seed in NCAA's if they win Conference championship today!

PS If you are new to this thread, then don't scream "not rom related"!! Those of us who have been around since the begining have earned the right to digress now and then, for the sake of waking people up. It is a known fact (at least to me!) that more activity on the thread generates more activity. Now, if some of the posts are "off topic", that's fine every now and then because that leads to other's seeing the activity in the thread and going, geez, guess I better read and get caught up...that's where we get them! Because interwoven in our "off topic" ramblings will be nuggets of useful information! People will be prompted to respond to the "off topic subject" and then think..."well, as long as I hit Reply, what about issue xxx???" and then the thread gets rolling on again with useful information. That is my theory, such as it is...feel free to chime in and try and disprove it, but I warn you, more posts will just lead to more posts and more useful information!!! You have been warned!
[EVO 4G Android Development] bumsock:
I had a question/observation,is it just me (in back on mik4.5 now) or on the zrom my media like YouTube videos,games and the like, that the sound is a lot louder? In a good way...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Verdammt:
Way to postulate that theory. ;)

Sent from my optiMIKed Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Well, to me, even system sounds "seem" louder. For instance, the touchpad tones when entering phone numbders or prompts during a phone call are almost annoying! I also think they were "escalating" after the first touch-tone is entered, I even disabled the "pocket ring" to see if that got rid of that behavior, but it didn't. But still, the first number entered is ok, but the ones after it are way loud. I know I can turn them off, but if they are on then the volume is enough to wake up everyone else in the house while I dial!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Whoa!!! A fellow "man of letters" raises his head??:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] Verdammt:
Should make for some interesting conversations, especially when I get started with pop culture references. I loves me some pop culture references.

Sent from my optiMIKed Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Yes, but my pop culture is mostly rooted in the 70's and 80's I'm afraid...god do I feel old saying that!
[EVO 4G Android Development] bacidath:
since its slow... post up some batt pics
[EVO 4G Android Development] Verdammt:
Same here. Being 40 will do that. Talk about feeling old, I was talking to my nephew about music and he didn't know who Billy Joel was.

Sent from my optiMIKed Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
+10 on the being 40, my kids don't know who the Beatles are!! (Guess I should have included the 60's, but I graduated High School in 1976...you do the math)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Verdammt:
The joys of getting old. :P

Sent from my optiMIKed Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kc_hubbard:
Skype / Cut and Paste

Anyone on here know how to have the Cut and Paste stop showing up when you double click a word from Skype? Wanna be able to use the Skype word selection popup instead.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Check out the Myn Z thread. This was discussed recently. I think the short answer was "no". BTW that is a good thread to follow since MikZ is based on that ROM. Here is a link to the direct post I am basing this upon: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12038539&postcount=2819
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
Agreed on the warm z thread. Regarding the swype it has been known. There has been no fix between Google or swype as of yet.
[EVO 4G Android Development] alammori:
Hey Tommy,

I just want to check if there is any progress in moding the Godzson's clock into 4x5 size?

Thank you for your effort.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
it's no problem. I just got permission to mod it. I am at work all weekend. expected monday maybe tuesday latest. :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
How is all my fellow Mikkers doing today? Had to go to my mom's and install 2 toilets and some other odd jobs. So did not get much use on the phone today.

"Walk by Faith not by Sight"
[EVO 4G Android Development] painandpleasure:
Just a word to those that don't have foward facing cam. I downloaded vignette and it works in there. Must be a glitch with stock app
[EVO 4G Android Development] bacidath:
confirmed on the front cam with vignette
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
Awesome. Thanks for posting. Just for general information the desire z does not have a fcc so naturally its camera.apk would not support it. its not so much a glitch as an incompatibility with the evo/desire z port.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kc_hubbard:
Thanks for the help. Will start following that thread, although I feel almost traitorous for doing so.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdeloach:
It's kinda like the calm before the storm in here..LOL

I know that several of us are working on some tedious mods, so hopefully we will have an exciting Sunday.

Every time that I think I am finished with all of the menu items being converted to black....I flash it and realize I have missed a bunch. Hopefully you guys will like it whenever I'm finished. I am sorry its taking a while, but its hard with 4 children wanting "Daddy time"
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
I know right? And all I have is a fiancee wanting tommy time! I can't imagine four little tommies running around right now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mdixon4az:
I saw a post saying if you long press on the word it will eventually bring up the Swype options instead of the Android options. I am not on the MikZ Rom at the moment to confirm but you might want to give that a try. And, let us know if it works.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mshnayde:
keep getting force close on whenever I try to attach something from the camera after it takes a picture.

Did flash Calkulin's fix as described.
[EVO 4G Android Development] trollallot:
I think I have to wipe and reload. Ever since I used a different kernel and set cpu my battery life took a turn for the worse! Before it was outstanding!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdeloach:
Do you have hardware 0002, 0003, or 0004?

I know that some that have 0004 have had issues. They eventually downloaded Vignette Camera from the market. It is a paid app, but works great.

What steps did you take exactly? I'll see if I can figure out what went wrong.

Btw...if I don't respond right a way, its because church is about to start.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdeloach:
Just uninstall setcpu. Don't really need it except for profiles. Remember, any time you change kernels it takes a couple days for the battery to get settled with it.

BTW...what kernel?
[EVO 4G Android Development] alammori:
It seems like the Caulkin's Front Camera Fix is skrewing up the camera app in this rom. If you want the front camera working, you got to live with these FC's.

Just a work around to do whatever you want to do with your pictures, you need to leave the camera app and then use the gallary or messaging to upload, attach ...your pictures. Otherwise download the paid app "Vignette" and use it instead of the stock camera app .

If you don't use the front camera like me you can still flash back MikZ camera attached in post#655. and get rid of all these FC's.
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
Good Mid-day my fellow Mikkers! Thought I would give everyone a break with the early morning wake ups. After all it is Sunday and we did go through DST. Hey jdeloach how is the swype skin coming along with the pic I sent you?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Hense my crusade for everyone to add a signature to their account! (see my link in my signature for instructions!)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdeloach:
Getting close on Swype. I keep getting a few little errors, and just having to iron them out. I didnt realize that it would be so difficult...lol

BTW....the keyboard kitchen you were thinking of was probably Gimpsta. Just Google it. It allows you to theme the HTC.IME.
[EVO 4G Android Development] knightwolf123:
Just wanted to say thank you for who ever found our about vignette. Front camera works with that.

Btw if anyone knows where I can find a lighter color skin for swype. This one is killing my eyes .
[EVO 4G Android Development] xxRAMOTHxx:
Pandora on normal quality over 3g working great for me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] noirelion:
no 4g? deal breaker

Where do you people live? in the woods?

4g/4g wifi tethering is an integral part of the Evo 4g Experience!

I just don't understand why all these people are loving these roms without basic functionality.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jstn76rs:
I had a non flip clock made for 4.5 and was wondering if it will work on mikz. Also is there any notification bar mods
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdeloach:
I would totally understand if I had 4g where I lived, but no such luck.

I think its just the entertainment of trying new things. And other than 4g and HDMI.....its all great. I never have used hdmi. When my area gets 4g, I will be using Mikfroyo v4.?, or maybe aamikam will get 4g working on Z by then.

You never know with him.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ArmyAdams:
Tommytomato had a bunch made for the warm z, pretty nice work. He has a thread in the theme and apps section that gets updated daily. Try it and see.
[EVO 4G Android Development] painandpleasure:
Thanks button hit. This works so much better now might have to use it as my daily
[EVO 4G Android Development] .psd:
Orange = The Woods

Blue (what blue?) = 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdeloach:
O

I put a link to Tommy's thread in post #2.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdeloach:
Thanks a million. Glad you are enjoying it. I have been using it for 2 days and am extremely happy.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chefdave12118:
Whats the difference between sense 2.0 and stock sense or sense on other roms here (Kings,acs,etc.)?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
You don't have to live in the woods to not have 4g my man. Check this out here.

Sprint was in such a hurry to be the "first" with "fake" 4g, btw, that they didn't worry about implementing it nationwide.

No company has "true" 4g, FYI.

On to the topic at hand. I like the ROM, so far, however I just loaded up and getting everything synced and will play with it for awhile. I'll get it all set up like my other MikRoms and see how it goes.

Thanks for the time fellas.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
LOL..You beat me too it. I actually supplied the link where you can click on "4g" tab and see where exactly 4g is. Funny thing, like I said, no company has "true" 4g, yet. More like 3.5g. ;)

And even though you get 4g, I've experienced it to be very inconsistent/unreliable, right now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dutchman71:
It appears the dialer does not like dialing my numbers I programmed with country codes (+1) Any work arounds?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ArmyAdams:
Go to settings-> sounds-> and set the audible touch tones to "off" or "long"... this should fix the dial tones.

I'm not sure if that will fix the country codes. But it might.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdeloach:
Mainly some cool features. Like landscape mode, skins, HTC hub, etc.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
It's an asset to have all of these different ROMs we can have running on the EVO. It gives people options to run their phone how they want.

I can tell 4G is very important to you, which is cool and you have many options of ROMs that will go along with how you use the phone. Just try not to assume its a core value for everyone, especially in a thread of ROM that doesn't have it. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdeloach:
It should, but please let me know.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dutchman71:
Unfortunately not... It just won't dial any numbers with + codes
[EVO 4G Android Development] lildoug2410:
I did it both ways just to cover myself. It works fine now. Thanks guys
[EVO 4G Android Development] makskylan:
I am having an issue setting up Yahoo mail . I know other ROMs have had this issue in the past. I looked but can't seem to find how to set it up manually.... any info? Thanks

Sorry for the question above. I did some more searching. This worked for me.....http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=9626.

Thanks if anyone was trying to help.
[EVO 4G Android Development] brandonkill02:
Hey flashed the rom i gotta say its the most bug free z rom iv'e ever used and iv'e tried them all on that note any particular reason i cant use the front cam in tango app i got the front cam working but when i use the app doesn't automatically switch to front cam or give me an option ?
[EVO 4G Android Development] knightwolf123:
I'm having the same problem with yahoo messenger video chat. Must be the desire rom not having the programming for it I think. Someone might make a fix for it but I'm not holding my breath. For now if I need video chat or 4g I just nand back to my warm myn's two point two. But then I miss the speed of mikz so I nand right back. Just make sure you back up mikz every couple day so you don't loose to much.

Vignette paid app works if you need a picture of yourself though

And that's my two cents
[EVO 4G Android Development] brandonkill02:
idk if its the desire rom rip because ive used it on virus and other roms with no problems i feel like it could be a number of things really i just dont know what. im gonna see if a different kernel helps and ill report back but there is no way ill be nand restoring just for video chat haha way to much work it either works or it doesnt
[EVO 4G Android Development] knightwolf123:
Different kernel huh..... (scratching head)......be back in a few
[EVO 4G Android Development] mdixon4az:
Restored MikZ and tested this. Unfortunately it does not work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] brandonkill02:
didnt work oh well maybe someone else will figure it out i mean its not something i use that often anyhow and not changing roms because this one owns pretty much every other rom out there so ill just wait for a fix and keep trying to figure it out will post back if i get it to work
[EVO 4G Android Development] knightwolf123:
Don't use it much myself either, it's just like that spot on your back you are trying to scratch but can't reach. That's all, besides I just ran a quadrant score of 1439 with my sbc 4.2.2 kernel overclocked 15% with setcpu so I'm hanging with this rom for a while until a fix or a better mikrom comes out.

4g sucks in most parts of san antonio that I'm in and I don't need video conference so I'm happy for now
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
For video chat try the app from the market called "Qik"

"Walk by Faith not by Sight"
[EVO 4G Android Development] trollallot:
Yeah I knew that. Been running it for a few days already with a znet

Kernel without cpu so its the kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] brandonkill02:
yeah man me to i dont ever use 4G in fl no real need for it but yeah def gonna stick with this one for awhile at least untill the gingersense is ported over
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdeloach:
At the park with my children, so I decided to upload some batteries I made in the UOT Kitchen.

There are four added to post #2.
[EVO 4G Android Development] alexnaoumi:
will hdmi ever work on this rom?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdeloach:
Hard to say for sure. I believe the problem is that the Desire Z that this was ported from does not have HDMI hardware. That is why 4g doesn't exist either.

Please correct me if that's wrong.

But, that being said, it doesn't have a front camera.....and they figured a fix for that.
[EVO 4G Android Development] PinnerProxy:
can someone post up the working keyboards please? i tried to flash htc ime stock from myn's additional mods and it didnt work. before any one flames.. for me using myn's mods. im gona say that his taskmanager drop down menu works on this rom aswell as the transparent titlebar mod
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
Correct you are Jeff! I don't doubt the talent pool at xda will get if eventually...

They are based on similar frameworks yes. But your icons will change in various places. The HTC_IME you found I bet is for rls 5. Since its sense 1 it will not work. Have you tried the desire z stock HTC_IME I posted? It's in my thread under keyboard collections. Try this one and report back. I've tried it and it works for me on warm z and mik z, but I haven't heard back from any one else... thanks.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
I didn't know jdeloach's name was also Jeff!~! No wonder I kept seeing my name in posts:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
Haha. It's been crickets up in here this weekend huh? Were gonna have to put out some mods soon... btw nice batteries Jeff. Looking good. So how is this uot business?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdeloach:
Haha....can get confusing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdeloach:
It seems to work pretty good for some basic stuff.

Btw.....I just added a Miui Style Taskbar Icons mod to post 2 (wow!!! That's a mouthful!
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
Okay. I just pushed Godzson's clock and I love it! I know why people would want that to be resized! I am working on it right now.

Edit: Finished! I think. I'm not on mik z right now. Anyone care to test it out for me?

It's attached. Just flash in recovery. A wipe of dalvik and cache is recommended. Be sure also you already have Rosie 4x5 installed.

Edit: Also, this modded version will put back all 12 clocks. I'm not sure if the one posted in post #2 is the same one posted on warm z, but it only has 5 clocks. This one should have all 12. Thanks to all those who test for me. I appreciate it a bunch.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Well I'm going to have to flash back to mikz tonight. You guys have a crap load of mods up now. I'll test this later as well. Is there a screen shot out there somewhere?
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
Not currently. There is a screenie of the 4x4 one. As soon as someone confirms it working, I will flash mik z and make a screenshot... or if someone can make one and post it I will link. Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Ok. I'll hook you up if no one has by then. I need to nand my Mik4.5 and wipe and flash mikz..Be back later.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
Thanks nick. I actually went ahead and tried it out on Warm Z and it works. If you can confirm that it works on Mik Z that would be great. Here are a couple of screenshots. Much thanks to Godzson for your permission to use your work. All credit to him please!

Download it here
[EVO 4G Android Development] alammori:
Thanks Godzson for the great clock and thank you Tommy for moding it into 4x5 size. I just installed it and confirm to be working very well with MikZ.

Great Job man and thanks again.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
No problem. I just finished flashing and rebooting and syncing all my apps/data and what not (which btw is really sweet!), so once I flash the 4x5 I will give it a shot. Need to read through the OP since you guys have added/changed so much since the first time I read. I'll post later with screen. Is there anything that you need me to test specifically?
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
Thank you gentlemen! Nick, I just wanted to make sure it works on Mik Z, as alammori said, it does! Great. If you notice any overlapping or funky stuff, let me know. Make sure you're using a 4x5 Rosie that I've modded because of the additional landscape. It's really frustrating making layout changes for landscape because I've never had to. Thank you again.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Took forever to sync, making nand now and then going to flash this Mik Z 4x5 Layout with Widgets and Rosie, is that the right one? Found that in your thread.

No thank you man...It's awesome what you guys can do, very impressive.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
That is the right one. Flash that one. Then flash the clock. Thanks. Also, for restoring and backing up, this is my new method. It's faster and so far no issues.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdeloach:
Just added tommy's 4x5 port of Godzson's clock to post #2 with his screenshot.

Also added a few more battery options and a new notification icons mod.

Great work on the clock, Tommy!!!

Thanks to Godzson for letting us use one of his many masterpieces!

Sent from my MikZ powered Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Hmm, not going to lie, kind of confused. So let me see if I understand. Once you get your particular ROM all set up, say mik4.5, you go in and back up just data, after wiping cache/dalvik 3 times. Then you go back and factory data reset (which I've noticed wipes dalvik/cache). Then restore your nand of just data and then flash ROM over that? Question here, do you reboot after restoring just data nand or flash different ROM first (say MikZ)? So basically I would be restoring my mik4.5 data nand and then flashing mikz on top of that?

Am I understanding that correctly? What does this do for me? Will I not have to set all my home screens and crap back up? What if I use the 4x5 layout on mik4.5 and the mikz is 4x4 by default? Do those questions make sense?
[EVO 4G Android Development] a senile fungus:
I think that the 4x5 layout only affects the system.

/data would be your user apps and I don't think carries the 4x5 with it.

~ I'm a fungi
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Ahh...Well that would make sense. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
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