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[Xoom Accessories] zeddock:
I do need a mouse.

I intend to use this for business at times when laptop won't be a convenient option.

I have the keyboard but have noticed some things do nto work as I think they should like the TAB key does not tab to next field at times.... especially for the XDA Premium app.

Also, I am on a WiFi only version of Xoom so Verizon and Sprint have no input into baggage or blockages.

Please let me know when someone figures this out?

Thanx!

zeddock
[Xoom Accessories] Giorgist:
Guys, I will give you a use for a mouse. Many flash interfaces expect a mouse. Try playing chess at this site. I am sure adobe could do somthing about this though

http://www.shredderchess.com/play-chess-online.html
[Xoom Accessories] zeddock:
Better than that!

The new Captcha used here on XDA to reset passwords seems to require a mouse; no way to put the puzzle pieces together with your finger, for sure!

Besides, it's just silly to not have it available for the MANY reasons that people have preferred a mouse in the past!

I want to work on the tablet to do some spreadsheet stuff and working with fingers... type on moto wireless keyboard then reach for the screen... the type on keyboard...

This is a must folks. My 2 cents.

zeddock
[Xoom Accessories] CT-Wizzle:
Have you guys tried the wiimote yet. Too my knowledge my friend used an app to connect his wiimote to his EvO. Could possibly be used for playing video files.
[Xoom Accessories] ateld:
If you have a wiimote, you can use its buttons (especially its dpad as arrow keys) to navigate throughout the Xoom. Theres an app in the market, I forget its name but it's by a Russian developer. I use the dpad as arrow keys, B as back, A as dpad center (or enter), plus for menu, - for search, and home for home. I don't recommend purchasing a wiimote just for this as this is pretty gimmicky, perhaps you can borrow a friends, but it can get you through until bluetooth mice work.
[Xoom Accessories] zeddock:
I have a wii, so I will try. Did not find the app yet.

If this works I can keep Xoom and it also suggests that getting a real mouse for Xoom won't be such a stretch... just have to wait for it.

Thanx!

zeddock
[Xoom Accessories] woost12:
What about the mouse for the atrix? It uses the same keyboard that we use. It's bluetooth right? And from motorola!
[Xoom Accessories] funnycreature:
The Asus transformer keyboard dock will have a touch pad. So it must be possible to implement some kind of pointing device. But since I'm not a dev. I might have just opened a can of worms.

[sent with Xooming Android technology]
[Xoom Accessories] a042349:
Android 2.2 and 3.0 definitely support BT mice and keyboards natively.

Not sure if its related, but on the Galaxy Tabs the Verizon and Sprint models acted like a Xoom, paired up but wouldn't connect.

The AT&T and T-mobile Gtab models worked perfectly. I figured Sprint and Verizon requested the BT stack change. Maybe Verizon did that here too?
[Xoom Accessories] DeerChaser:
I tried my Dell BT mouse on my wifi xoom, no luck. Paired but wouldnt connect. Showed up as an input device.
[Xoom Accessories] alias_neo:
I'm pretty sure a BT keyboard will map all the major keys, and if not there is the BT keyboard for the XOOM, something like that would surely work better than a mouse?

It has all the hardware and playback keys you need. Mouse doesn't seem lik ea great idea since Android doesn't have a pointer.
[Xoom Accessories] funnycreature:
I was actually wondering how a touch pad would work on a touch screen device! A shame I don't have the transformer to try out ;)
[Xoom Accessories] zeddock:
It does not have "all the hardware and playback keys *I* need."

The keyboard works OK, but does not replace a mouse for some functions, and is certainly not better IMO.

Some here have stated a Wii Remote can be used as a mouse and gives a little arrow, but even if Android doesn't have a pointer, an enterprising coder who sees the interest in a mouse working on the Xoom would do well to create it, I think.

I know I would pay for it!

Just my 2 cents, but I have a need. It appears you are happy with the way it is, and ain't that the great thing about open-source OSes?

zeddox
[Xoom Accessories] wikowsky:
Maybe you could 'copy, cut, paste' ? I would like to knoow also.
[Xoom Accessories] virallink:
Well there is a new update coming out for Xoom, it was going to come out like 2 days back; you can read about it on Engadget. The new update will enable bluetooth mouse support, USB support and hardware accelerated flash content!
[Xoom Accessories] booyakasha:
link?

10char
[Xoom Accessories] Hypnotosov:
Motorola Xoom update pulled and/or coming soon

I haven't seen it on Engadget, but it was reported by CNET:

Among the list of coming changes were improvements to Web and data access, easy viewing and transfer of photos from digital cameras, and support for Bluetooth mice. Noticeably absent from the list, however, is the ability to use the microSD card for added storage. Currently, users are limited to the 32GB internal storage for media and files.​

CNET: Motorola Xoom should see second software update soon

I don't have the rights to post up a link, but searching for the title should bring it up
[Xoom Accessories] rossvtaylor:
Apple mouse works great / Wacom tablet doesn't

Hi all - as an update, I tried my MacBook mouse and it works great with my stock Xoom. Surprisingly, there's a standard mouse cursor and even the touch-drag-scroll feature works.

I have a BT wireless Wacom tablet and my Xoom pairs fine, and the cursor movement works - but, only in a portion of the screen. It's not full-screen.

Just FYI,

Ross
[Xoom Accessories] muckman6702:
just plug in the nano transceiver...

just plugged in nano transceiver to motorola usb dongle-guy and my logitec m305 worked fine. not exactly how i wanted it to work but whatev
[Xoom Accessories] cyber16:
I have several bt mice and just tried the Microsoft 5000 and that would not connect.

Yet I also have some older Kensington bt mice and the Si670m model works GREAT. "even when in sleep lock mode, wakes up the xoom and you can use the mouse to unlock

Will check other models as well, i have a few apple mighty mice around.

Xoom 4G LTE 3.2.2
[Xoom Accessories] xoomlife:
Bluetooth mouse and xoom

After reading this thread, I have tethered Apple's Magic Mouse with the 3g Xoom (rooted). Nothing specific, just a normal connection. Works great. All options work with the mouse (horizontal and vertical scrolling). I just can't have my bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected at the same time. I have heard of multiple devices connected and working but haven't seen two input devices connected and operating. (They both show connected but once either of them are touched the keyboard drops off) Any Ideas?
[Xoom Accessories] scramer:
I wanted to revive this thread and see what is being used now. Also has anyone successfully paired keyboard and mouse at same time?

Sent using XDA premium app.
[Xoom Accessories] omac_ranger:
You can, but sometimes (depending on the hardware apparently) the mouse or the keyboard will flake out for a few seconds, then reconnect. But it can happen quite a bit.

I'm using the Bluetooth keyboard case (verizon) and the Logitech Android Mouse. The interference happened with the Motorola Keyboard as well. But it has worked for an extended period of time without any trouble.. Just a heads up that it can have interference.
[Xoom Accessories] neblap:
I use the Motorola Bluetooth Keyboard & Mouse at the same time and they work fine. The only time there is a bit of delay is when either the mouse or keyboard have entered sleep mode due to an extended period of non use.
[Xoom Accessories] romdroid.:
Is it possible to use RF(radio) keyboard and mouse with Xoom? with OTG cable
[Xoom Accessories] scramer:
As a follow up, I ordered the Motorola blue tooth mouse to use with my blue tooth keyboard case, and they both work together fantastic. The reason I bought the Motorola mouse instead of the Logitech was because of a sale that Motorola was having; purchase a blue tooth keyboard for $39.99 and get the $29.99 blue tooth mouse free. While I did not need another keyboard, I plan to give it as a gift.

http://www.store.motorola.com/dp/B0057R3KMG
[Xoom Accessories] Simonetti2011:
The same bluetooth mouse that works flawlessly for me with me Galaxy S2, won't work with my Xoom no matter what.
[Xoom Accessories] okantomi:
Great deal!
[Xoom Accessories] romdroid.:
Can someone please recommend me a cheap bluetooth mouse for the xoom?:o
[Xoom Accessories] Dyelon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003YT56WG/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00

Great mouse!
[Xoom Accessories] panman1964:
Microsoft Wedge

Just bought a Microsfot Wedge keyboard and mouse, not cheap but beautifully made and apart from the minor irritation that I cant seem to get a UK keyboard mapping (that may be because my Xoom is Geddified??) a doddle to set up and use. :D

sorry no linky as n00b13
[Xoom Accessories] romdroid.:
Anyone else experiencing that the mouse sometimes is slow when opening folders with apps? I am using the logitech m555b bluetooth mouse...and running team EOS 2.0
[Xoom Accessories] GedeWK:
I'm using an old wireless logitech mouse (nano receiver) and a poor usb otg cable and it works smoothly.
[Xoom Accessories] jonnyhardaker:
Ok...so I have had a bluetooth mouse bought for Christmas and after testing it connects to my Xoom as a mouse when using CM010 but there is no cursor. My bluetooth keyboard does work however.

I then flashed EOS4 and both connected and both worked.

Hope this helps someone :)
[General Accessories] zarathustrax:
http://www.icontrolpad.com/home

Has anyone else seen this yet? I've been hoping for someone to make a bluetooth gamepad that can attach to your phone... only one ever made before was the MSI BGP100, but it's been discontinued and unavailable for years, and it was a terrible design anyways.

But this new bluetooth gamepad looks awesome... it has upgradeable firmware, 3 different bluetooth profiles to begin with so it'll be compatible with almost any bluetooth device, it even has a nice sized lithium-ion battery that can charge your device while you're attached to it. It has a bt keyboard profile so right away any phone and emulator that can support using bt keyboard keys as buttons will work, but analogue sticks won't work with that profile.

But once more emulator devs start putting support for this gamepad in their emulators, everything can be used, including being able to display how much power is left in gamepads battery.

I just ordered myself one to use with Android on my HD2... this will be an awesome gamepad once more support is written into emulators. For any emulator devs, I believe the manufacturer will send a free development unit for testing and writing support into your apps.

Anyone else order one? The great thing is that it has upgradeable firmware and changeable clamps, so it can be made compatible with any devices or BT profiles in the future... so if you're a gamer, it's definitely a good investment.
[General Accessories] Hollow.Droid:
How did this work out? I was thinking about getting one for my Nexus One.
[General Accessories] solarpolitiks:
It looks great but the site looks so sketchy :/

Apparently it's all good. Didn't realize it was so widely covered on other sites ha
[General Accessories] shaolin95:
Expensive but damn it looks nice...I am intersted.

Thanks for sharing!
[General Accessories] zarathustrax:
I'm still waiting for it to be delivered.... they just finished producing it a few weeks ago and they've had people pre-ordering for a couple months, and being a small company, they're still catching up on shipping out all the orders. This is the same company that created the Pandora, that open-source linux based portable game system/computer... which is also a really cool item I would get if I had the money. It'll probably be another week or 2 before I recieve the controller, as I didn't pay the extra money for fast shipping.

This is definitely a legit company, and they've been sending free controllers to any emulator developers or other developers interested in developing for the controller or adding full support to their emulators. I guess it was originally being made mainly for the iPhone, and was going to use the iphone connector and have bluetooth as a bonus that would be able to be put into use later down the road with firmware updates to allow it to be used with android and other devices, but Apple doesn't allow the use of their connector unless it's certified by them, and they told them that they wouldn't certify them, so they had to scrap the apple connector and make it strictly bluetooth. I guess apple had even went and patented basicly the same gamepad design as the original iControlPad designs, so anyone else trying to make a similar gamepad that clamps on to phone will have apple after them. Luckily the iControlPad had plans publicly released before the apple patent, so they're safe from apple suing them.

I've been reading a lot and keeping up at their forums, and from everything I've read, this is a VERY sturdy and well built, quality gamepad. I guess it is made to withstand being thrown against a wall, even. I'm very excited about getting mine, and have wanted a gamepad like this for a while. And with the battery, it'll make my HD2 last twice as long while gaming. And with upgradeable firmware and multiple BT profiles, it'll probably be compatible or can be made compatible with any new phone or device I get in the future. It'll work out of the box with android emulators using the keyboard profile, and more emulators are adding full support all the time, allowing the analog controls to be used as well.

I'll post a review with pictures once I get my iControlPad in the mail.
[General Accessories] peegee99:
looks cool. can't wait to see whether it really works out for you.
[General Accessories] dejavu157:
damn that looks coo. i hope it works out.
[General Accessories] zarathustrax:
Update on Android development for iControlPad..... the developer of the gamepro driver (the driver that allows the MSI BGP100 bluetooth gamepad to work with android) has become a member at the iCP forums and has an iControlPad on the way to him, at which point he will be adding support for the iCP to his GamePro drivers. This will help make this gamepad more easily used for many games and emulators on android.
[General Accessories] wout1976:
This works great! My collegue has it. I want to have it !!
[General Accessories] crashtestkid:
Good concept but sadly we won't see it very wide spread. Sony's xperia play will also knock it out the market.
[General Accessories] zarathustrax:
The Xperia play is just one phone.... with this you can turn any phone into an xperia play. And can use it with your computer and multiple devices. I think it will become more popular once xperia play hits and there's more quality games available for android that can use a gamepad. A lot of people don't want a gamepad built-in to their device all the time, but want a good gamepad for when they want to game. And with the built-in battery, it makes up for the fact that games eat your battery quickly.

I think this gamepad will get pretty popular once more apps support it and it's more known. They only just had the first 1000 made and began shipping less than a month ago. There's no other product that matches what this gamepad can do. And it's very well built and very versatile. I would take this gamepad and my HD2 over an xperia play any day. And I'll be using this gamepad for every phone I get in the future, too.

And seriously, the xperia play? How is that phone even gonna compete with the new generation of phones coming out? For being a new, high-end phone, it's not much of an upgrade from my HD2 that's already well over a year old... actually, I don't think it's an upgrade at all. And lets wait and see how long the xperia's battery lasts while gaming.
[General Accessories] zarathustrax:
Yay!! I got notification that my iControlPad got shipped. The reason it took so long was because they were waiting for their next batch of iCPs to be manufactured and delivered. They're a small company, so they are getting them made in batches of 1000 at a time, and their first batch was probably mostly sold out from pre-orders, so that first 1000 went fast. Hopefully now that their mostly caught up with orders and everything, and now that they have more stock in, anyone putting in orders shouldn't have to wait so long for their order to be shipped. I was just unlucky enough to catch them right after the first batch sold out. I actually e-mailed them a few days ago and found out why my order was taking so long, and that it would be going out soon, so I decided to add another gamepad to my order so that they could ship it in the same box and wouldn't have to pay for shipping on the 2nd gamepad. I figure either my brother will want it, or if he didn't, someone here at xda would probably be interested.

I didn't pay for the more expensive shipping, so it'll probably still be a week or 2 til I get it, but once I do, I'm going to do a review of it with detailed pictures to post in this thread for anyone that's interested.
[General Accessories] McBang2023:
Ill be looking foward to this review. ive been looking for something to play with on my vibrant. i feel like ive maxed out my vibrants abilities and would love to add this to its resume.
[General Accessories] ichey103:
looks good i like it
[General Accessories] Morality:
Eagerly waiting for a review :D If it's ANY good, gonna order one right now.
[General Accessories] zarathustrax:
Hopefully I'll get it soon. I didn't pay the extra $25 for the faster shipping, as the cheaper shipping was already $25. It's coming from the UK, and can take 2 or 3 weeks with the cheap shipping. But they did allow me to add a 2nd gamepad to the order without costing any more for shipping, so I'm going to have one iCP that I can sell to a fellow xda member from the US. That way someone can save a couple bucks on shipping and get it within a few days instead of a few weeks (or couple months like I'm having to wait... but they said they've caught up on their orders and have new stock, so any orders placed now will be shipped within 2 days... I was unlucky enough to order right after they quickly sold out of their first batch of 1000 gamepads, and had to wait for 2nd batch to be manufactured, which took a while because they are a small company and there was some fixes made to 2nd batch.)

I'll update this thread and make review as soon as I get my order. I'll do an unboxing with pics for you guys. I think this Gamepad is going to be very popular once it gets more known... it's definitely the best quality and most versatile attachable gamepad that will probably ever be made for phones. Upgradeable firmware, multiple BT profiles, huge battery which can also power the attached phone.... can't get better than that.
[General Accessories] zarathustrax:
I finally got my iControlPads in the mail yesterday! They are nice! Well worth the wait and money. I'll be posting the review in this thread in the next couple days.

I am very satisfied and glad I got it... it's well built, so I think it'll last me through several phones. I can't imagine anyone else creating a more versatile or better gamepad anytime soon.
[General Accessories] MacaronyMax:
Wow, That's awesome :eek:
[General Accessories] Hollow.Droid:
If possible, could you see if the Nexus One would fit in the controller? Its specs can be found (url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_One)here(/url). Thanks! :)
[General Accessories] m33-snk:
Nice Idea, but the quality doesn't seems to be the best ;)
[General Accessories] zarathustrax:
Why do you say that? Do you have one? I have to say, this seems to be one of the best quality phone accessories I've ever had. After reading about it in the forums too, I've learned that they have used the best quality materials they could for the parts. They didn't use cheap chips or parts from china... they used parts only from Germany and the UK. And these controllers aren't fully mass-produced... they're actually assembled by the company that created them, I believe.

It's a small company that created them, so only 1000 are produced each batch, and only 3000 are even being made at first. It's the company that created the Pandora, the linux based open source portable video game system/computer... so they have some experience manufacturing products. And they definitely make high quality products. They spent over 2 year designing and creating the iControlPad.

So why do say that the quality doesn't seem to be the best? Because I would stress a statement that says the exact opposite... they're a small company, so they don't mass-produce them too quickly, and they're expensive, but well worth it because the gamepads are such high quality, and are very versatile and upgradeable, and will last you for years to use on all your future phones. You may have to replace the lithium battery every few years depending on how often you use it, and replace the rubber membrane every few years if it wears out, but I wouldn't be surprised if the gamepad lasts me 10-20 years.
[General Accessories] zarathustrax:
You can find a lot of info, including the size of the clamps in the wiki here... http://pandorawiki.org/

and here's compatibity list... http://pandorawiki.org/IControlPad_Compatibility

The Nexus one is on list as fitting good.

Even if it doesn't quite fit, it's not difficult to grind a little more space into it with a dremel... that's what I'm going to do for my HD2. They plan on releasing a new sized clamp soon, too.
[General Accessories] Hollow.Droid:
Ah good stuff, the last time I checked that list it didn't have the Nexus One. I might treat myself to one of these soon then :)
[General Accessories] zarathustrax:
I haven't had much chance to test mine yet... in fact I'm about to update the firmware right now, but just from reading a lot about it the last 2 months and finally holding it in my hand and feeling how solid and well built it is, it is well worth it if you like to use emulators on your phone. I don't expect that there's going to be any bluetooth gamepads released that will be this high quality and as versatile. I recently just learned from the icontrolpad forum that there's a hole on the back that is meant to connect a spring-loaded clamp. These guys thought of everything when designing this gamepad to make it as future-proof and versatile as possible!

I'll be doing my review with pictures sometime this week when I have time, and I'll post it in this thread.
[General Accessories] bitbank:
I just received mine this week and have been writing code to talk to it in SPP mode. This is the best generic bluetooth controller available to far. I have the BGP100 and Zeemote as well and this is more functional. They did an excellent job on the bluetooth firmware - it will support pretty much any device.
[General Accessories] fixxxer667:
Still waiting on that extensive review that was mentioned, but it really seems like a great device, glad to see so many positive reviews :)

Any comments on how and if it fits the larger 4.3" devices? (HD2, Desire HD, etc)

Also, bitbank, I was considering the BGP as well due to it having more buttons than the Zeemote and not that much of a price gap.

Is the Icontrolpad's difference in build quality and versatility that big to justify the extra money?

(just waiting on that final yes and a confirmation that it will fit the beast of a phone the DHD is :P)
[General Accessories] bitbank:
I can't comment on how well it secures the phone because I didn't buy the "clamps" with it. At $86 "bare" it was hard to justify the purchase, but with the clamps it pushes it over $100. The BGP100 is a nifty idea, but fails due to the following:

1) Poor build quality - buttons which break and fall off.

2) Battery eater - 1 AAA battery only lasts about 2 hours.

3) Noticeable lag in the bluetooth implementation. Fast paced games will suffer.

4) When you could get it from DealExtreme for $24, it was tolerable, but it's not worth paying anything more.

The Zeemote is fast and responsive, but hurts your hands after a short while due to its strange design. ICP is definitely the best wireless bt accessory.