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[Xoom General] inspiron41:
i had t-mobile when they were transitioning their 3g network to higher speeds. from earlier experience, 1-1.5/0.6-0.8 mbps download/upload was kind of sluggish for my needs when you consider playing 1-2 videos and browsing flash heavy website. now that 3g service has improved in my area, i'm getting like 5.45/1.77 mbps download/upload and it feels more comfortable. i even done some online gaming and it works fine. So if Verizon LTE speeds are better than that, then you'll probably wont notice a difference. but watch out if you get close to maximum data allowance.
[Xoom General] jumpinj:
Using mine with my Atrix. Don't intend on switching on the cellular unless I'm in a dead spot and it's an emergency.
[Xoom General] deflon:
I don't intend to use Verizon as their prices are too high compared to my regional carrier. Now that the xoom is unlocked/rooted, is it possible to flash a new PRL to it so that we can use another CDMA carrier with it? Do tablets utilize MEID/MDN etc...?

I intend to purchase the 800 dollar xoom only if I am able to use it with my regional carrier (rooted/unlocked). If this is not possible I will wait for the wifi and settle with tethering to my evo
[Xoom General] theahlenius:
I think the data prices for tablets and other non-phones will go down once Verizon figures out people aren't going to pay them. If they want to dramatically lower the price and use a tiered data approach that's fine with me as long as the data amounts are realistic.
[Xoom General] Trav29:
Yes I think I will get the data plan.
[Xoom General] ilogik:
If you cant afford $20 for a data plan you shouldn't be buying a $800 toy.
[Xoom General] RadDudeTommy:
Heads up. You have to go into version to activate your device. Or maybe online. But it can't be activated thru verizon from the device like the I pad can.
[Xoom General] coreymcl:
Quick question about Verizon plans.

This may sound like I'm making this up however I won a Xoom from a local radio station, I get to pick it up tomorrow. But here's my question we are buying a house and were told NOT to have our credit pulled.

After looking around Verizon's website I didn't see if I can just use a credit card instead of the normal process of applying for an account and post paying the bill. So basically I'm asking if they offer pre-paid accounts that I can pay for the month if I want to or not without any penalties.

Thanks!
[Xoom General] gbenj:
I dont think they have prepaid account for tablets, only phones...as far as i know.
[Xoom General] flashred:
From Motorola Direct?

Did you buy yours from Motorola Directly or elsewhere? I came to this thread to see if anyone had an answer on how to activate a Xoom if purchased directly (as a lot of us did) from Motorola. I think I’m going to have to go into the store since mine fails to go through the activation process (if there is even one to begin with) for new customers.
[Xoom General] Bauxite:
You have to have a verizon account already... you can't just set it up on the device.
[Xoom General] slowrey:
I bought mine from Motorola directly and went into the Verizon store and got the $20/month/1GB plan with free activation. Only took 10 minutes.

Now getting access to the My Verizon account was more of a pain in the butt. Since my Xoom doesn't have texting capabilities they couldn't send me my password. So the Tech Support person had to program their phone with my account, get the text and then re-program it and then I had access to the Verizon account. Probably took 30 minutes.
[Xoom General] nubsors:
This is the way I see it, I don't want to pay for data when I can just tether my Xoom to my Epic 4G and get great upload and download speeds. Check out the latest beta version of Android Wifi Tether.
[Xoom General] ethion:
Did I do something wrong? When I purchased my xoom from best buy I just skipped the activation... I then setup wifi and setup my google account and everything works fine. I just don't use the 3g at all in fact I have my device in airplane mode. Is this going to cause me a problem? Do I need to activate it with verizon?
[Xoom General] sal_shawn:
Exactly what I was thinking. No point to pay the extra cost.
[Xoom General] p-slim:
I do not get 4g speeds when tethering usiing android wifi app, only 3g speeds eventhough I'm connected to 4g getting 7mbps on my phone. Can you post link to your version?
[Xoom General] xlGmanlx:
i am in the same boat as you i think, but welcome to the XOoooooooooooooom baby! i voted yes because i want to try out a month on LTE when i get the upgrade, but not going to do a full contract, thats why i bought off contract

only if you want to have 3G service with them, otherwise enjoy your wifi or airplane mode
[Xoom General] p-slim:
Yep xoom is winning. Glad to see you didn't wait for the wifi only version. Now that we have flash I'm in heaven. Now lets get these apps so honeycomb can get off the ground
[Xoom General] clashcity:
I go back and forth between wifi hot spots so I chose to stay off contract. Downside is when I tether my Nexus to my Xoom, my N1 heats up like a bastard. It also kills the N1's battery after about 2 - 3 hours of use. I was considering jumping in after the 4G upgrade as well, but for me this whole thing revolves around my obsession with any possibility of Google Voice ever getting VOIP. At that point I'd drop my N1's carrier, make the Xoom a hot spot, and pull the 180.
[Xoom General] p-slim:
Xoom isn't getting Google voice capable of calling. Googlevoice willonly be possible if they incorporate internet wificalling like T-Mobile does and in cyanogenmod. Other then that the only calling you can do is Skype. Internetcalling is a reality for Google voice but I don't think that would ever be my primary line
[Xoom General] JanetPanic:
I activated mine. While I am in range of wifi most of the time, it is nice to be able to connect while commuting or at some random location. I tether to my g2 sometimes to save on the cap but that eats the battery on the phone too much.
[Xoom General] xlGmanlx:
My phone is reduced to texts, phone calls, and wireless tethering. The xoom gets everything else
[Xoom General] tjleeland:
I paid full price and activated for the $20 a month service. I only use about 1.8GB/mo on my EVO, which is on 3G all day, so I figure I won't go above 1GB/mo on my Xoom which will actually be on WiFi most of the time.

If it had been $30/mo, I don't think I would have done it, but at $20, why not?
[Xoom General] tjleeland:
That's exactly what I thought. I could tether, but it eats my battery. I don't see me using too much, but it's a nice backup.
[Xoom General] f1restarter:
So is it true that Verizon charges $35 activation fees in addition to the 3G fees and they will charge $35 each time I re activate 3G since I don't need it on a monthly basis but maybe just a few times a year. I just bought the Xoom without contract.
[Xoom General] xguntherc:
I'm not sure yet what I'll do. I'm considering returning my Xoom for the Wifi only if it comes to Best Buy before my 30 day return limit. lol.

Otherwise I'll keep tethering to my MT4G until 4G comes, then I might try verizon. I don't use it enough out of Wifi area's to actually need the extra cost. Tethering to my phone I downloaded some files and even played fullscreen HD youtube video's with ease. it worked extremely well.

I'd like the Wifi version as it is a bit lighter.
[Xoom General] p-slim:
I'm sorry I'm going to have to call your bluff on that one. HD youtubes streaming thru sprints 3G isn't happening. Sprints 3G is sloop slow its ridiculous. When I'm on sprints 3G its my xoomis only good for regular web browsing and the site better not have flash video.
[Xoom General] el_bori1:
I thought about it but paying 35 activation fee is not fair.
[Xoom General] idkwhothatis123:
Vzw corp employee here. Buy it outright. No need to activate as its ur equipment. Employee just rings it up as an item sale. If they try to tell you diff ask for a manager because the sales rep is commissionable and wants the sales dollars. When you get it home, there is no way to activate the 3g data network because your not attached to a phone number. When it tries to act it will fail, then hit skip. Act on wifi and turn on airplane mode. Smooth sailing.
[Xoom General] sleeplessninja:
You can activate from home. I have a verizon phone so I logged into my verizon account and added a data plan line. It will ask for ur device unique ID. There are a couple stickers that came with the device that has these numbers. The first one on the sticker failed but the second worked for me. It will ask you for a phone number preference but don't freak out. It is not setting up a phone line ur xoom actually has a phone number, this is how it uses the 3g. After about 20 minutes i went on my xoom settings panel and went to wireless tab than mobile networks. Then click on activate device. It failed first activate but worked second time I tried.

There is an activation fee hidden fees and the monthly like any provider, but u don't have to pay till ur next bill :-)
[Xoom General] RadDudeTommy:
I activated mine just because I don't have internet at home because i live in the Boonies.

anyway, Verizon sucks. (Nothing personal.. they just suck)

I'm mad that I pay 5 dollars more (I chose the 35$ for 3 gig plan) than I do for my iphones 3g data, and that's unlimited.

PLEASE LET ME SWITCH MY PLANS!!!!!!

I've started streaming netflix movies in HD through my Iphone just to compensate for some of this Data charging. I know some people might get mad at me saying this. But really, how lame is it that there isn't an unlimited plan for tablets? Also how lame is it that there is a pre-paid data plan for smartphones but not for tablets? Don't worry, none of you live near me, i really do live in the boonies, so none of you are affected.

Also, I know that Verizon and AT&T say that they had to go to tiered data plans because bandwidth hoggers. (please note, I normally don't use massive data in a months time, but have started recently to personally protest these charges and ridiculous fees) I'm at 5 gigs in 10 days, and that is not enough for me ;) Time to cord this iphone to my ps3 and play some black ops..............

BRING UNLIMITED DATA TO TABLETS!
[Xoom General] Bauxite:
This isn't what he's talking about. Paying an activation fee at all is outrageous. And the fact that you have to pay it over and over when you reactivate makes it much worse. Why is vzw doing this? Modifying a number in a database does not cost you $35.

-Bauxite

Sent from my Evo 4G
[Xoom General] mrjoshzombie:
Considering how rarely I'm out of range of my WiFi network, I chose not too. For the times I am out of range, I just tether to my OG Droid and all is well. No need to pay extra costs for some capped internet that costs half as much as my home connection.
[Xoom General] NorCalDroid:
i agree their should be an option for unlimited data. There should always be that option. As for 20 dollars being too much, well it isn't that its the data they give you for 20 bucks that's just wrong. 1gb of data doesn't cost them any where near that price. Their profit margin must be huge. I could justify 20 bucks for 5 gb but even then At&t provides DSL for 30 bucks a month for home internet and you can log into any at&t hotspot for free depending what place you are at. I mean I'm sure they can afford to give us higher data allowances with their economies of scale they have produced over the years being in the business
[Xoom General] RadDudeTommy:
Exactly... Verizon and AT&T most importantly.

They pretty much dominate the American market for phones.

And they all want to complain about this and that and then that and this.

They are big enough, and powerful enough that they can squeeze a few more gigs into the b/s of tiered data plans they offer....

It's rather annoying.
[Xoom General] Legacy2385:
I just activated mine solely for the insurance.....the 3g coverage is a bonus....btw if there's a vzw rep here can you give me the details on the insurance for this thing....like how much the deductable is
[Xoom General] keitht:
Activation fee waived for a limited time. Not sure if you can get this after you purchase or not:

http://phandroid.com/2011/03/14/ver...ts/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcagn:
Hi,

I have flown to another country with my Desire Rooted and new ROM when i landed opened my phone i got this message ""you lost data connectivity because.."" can not see the rest of the message. did not help closing re opening the phone always same message.

Before rooting the phone a never got that message.Can some one advise me the reason for such a message and if its because of the root and new ROM.

At home a do not get this message.

Thanks in advance

Dor
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khizerjalal:
Same problem

Yoo Man..

i am also travelling and now i am having exactly the same problem. Did you find any Good solution for that problem??

/Khizer Jalal
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andQlimax:
try settings/wireless and networks/mobile networks and enable roaming data

be aware u can spend much money to use internet according with ur operator
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itachi1706:
This message occurs because the phone had detected that you are not on your home network and the data roaming option in settings>wireless & networks>mobile connection is unchecked. Hence the message appears to inform you that they have disabled your data connection because you are not on your home network. It is present in all roms so its not because you've rooted and flashed a Rom.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] his_81:
Hi!

I have now managed to connect to the work wifi LEAP network with the help of "full wifi". Now the next problem occurs when trying to connect to internet. The work network uses a "automatic configuration script" in IE to connect to internet. How to set this up in android??

Any ideas?

Thanks!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] his_81:
Any ideas?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] veritas8109:
I too am looking for a fix to this. I cannot use WIFI at work and would love to, I am not a programmer but I would guess it is not difficult, then again, it is not available so perhaps there is some difficulty involved.

Anyone? Mr Bueller?
[HTC Inspire 4G] psufan5:
Where do I begin...

I still have access to CWM and the Bootloader menus but I cant flash a rom without a boot loop. Nothing I do can get this thing to boot. I am trying to restore it to stock but I cant get anything to recognize the phone to do so. Trying to run a downgrade from the root hack kit to no avail...

Given that I still have access to these 2 menus, what are my options here?

All of this for a damn Radio...

EDIT: Never mind finally got it! I had to copy the dang image file from the hack kit, put it on the phones SD card, and let it run itself in the bootloader... panic over lol
[Epic 4G General] Acei:
Hi guys,

Since this group has been very receptive to Smartbench 2010, I'm hoping Smartbench 2011 will be accepted just as well. :D

I've been working on the new version of Smartbench for the past few weeks. This version is still BETA, so you won't find it in the Android Market yet.

Here's what's new:

- Dual-core processor support! (Ok, not relevant to you, but you can see how well Atrix and Optimus 2X performs on CPU intensive tests now... :D ). 'Pi', 'Mandelbrot' and 'String' tests now spawn 4 threads which are ran simultaneously. So on 1 core phone, each thread runs 4 times slower, dual-core phone will run each thread about twice as fast, etc. This also means, Smartbench 2011 is quad-core ready.

- Added "String Test". This test manipulates large strings and also performs some regular expressions.

- REMOVED File I/O tests. This test was somewhat inconsistent not just on Galaxy S phones but also on other phones. I don't think it's worth while to keep it.

- Auto-submission of results! At the end of the test run, all test scores are submitted to the server (well, assuming you have the internet connection).

- Result chart is now REAL-TIME! Watch the result chart grow in real-time when you re-visit the chart screen! Oh, for now, I am limiting the display of the results to 50 entries and this is based on 50 most popular device/configurations. Different clock speed counts as separate entries, and so does different Android versions.

- Donated users can see results without running the complete test first.

IMPORTANT: Do NOT compare 2011 results with 2010. They have different baselines and apps have been tuned differently. You WILL get lower Games Index scores because now it is base-lined on HTC G2 instead of Nexus One.

Here's the link to the latest BETA:

[Link removed]

As soon as you run the test, I will see results on my DB.

Please let me know if you find any issues. I'll try to get the final version up in the Market sometime this week.

Thanks much! :D

EDIT: Smartbench 2011 v0.7 has been released. It will now allow you to sort results by either Average, Productivity or Games scores. Please re-install this version.

EDIT2: Smartbench 2011 v0.8 has been released. It now offers a filtering option - you can see all results or just stock clock speed results. Mandelbrot test also has been extended for better precision. Again, please re-install this version.

EDIT3: I have just published Smartbench v1.0 in the Android Market - please install this version moving forward. Results submitted by the BETA version will no longer be stored in the server DB. Your support during the BETA period has been very helpful! :)
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Just ran it. The Atrix's results look beast!
[Epic 4G General] Acei:
Yup I can see your results - thanks. :D

Tegra 2 is a dual core, and it is Cortex A9 based, so it should perform very well on CPU tasks. But as you can see Hummingbird is doing rather well on Gaming Index.

I've defined the correct name mapping for Epic now. It should show the human-friendly name on the chart.
[Epic 4G General] skee/07088:
jus ran....
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Ya, cant wait until Sprint releases a dual-core phone.
[Epic 4G General] Acei:
I think Epic's result looks ok from my perspective given other devices on the list already...
[Epic 4G General] Acei:
I see couple of results at 1.2GHz. You guys are not running the stock ROM, correct?
[Epic 4G General] apatcas:
FC's on my ACS Fozen rom
[Epic 4G General] Acei:
Where did it FC?

EDIT: My bad. I was trying to fix a small bug but introduced FC in the process. Try downloading it again - that version should fix the FC issue.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
I'm on syndicate Rom.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Ditto on FC on Frozen (1.2ghz) ideas?

Closes right after GLJellyfish, can see the menu for a split second then FC.... hope it helps...

EDIT: new one works....1081/2600.... nice
[Epic 4G General] Acei:
Ouch. Looks like my code to detect the name of the custom ROM isn't always working. Not sure if there is a reliable way to get this info... Hmmm...
[Epic 4G General] Acei:
Yup this bug should be fixed on the new version which I posted few minutes ago. :)
[Epic 4G General] hazridi:
Running the new ACS Frozen ROM (at 1.2Ghz)

My phone shows up as a SPH-D700 running Stock ROM on Android 2.2,

this is not the case as this is a 2.2.1 phone not running the stock rom. It is not grouped under the rest of the Epics.
[Epic 4G General] skee/07088:
whoa..

ran again oc'd..big increase on the productivity index, nice!!
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Ya, just to verify, im not getting any fcs on either version. :)
[Epic 4G General] asrielx1:
Testing on ACS Frozen

Just tried out the 2011 version on ACS Syndicate frozen with their OC kernel. Ran the test with setcpu set to 200-1000 and conservative governor as well as 1000-1200 and performance governor. No FC or errors at either setting. Cool to see more new devices in comparison.
[Epic 4G General] Acei:
You are going to see FAR MORE devices to compare with Smartbench 2011 in the future. Imagine, there will be tens of thousands of results if not more. I just need to figure out a sensible way to display all that in some meaningful way. :)

I can see someone ran Evo Shift 4G and HTC Bee! :D
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
does it detect the actual clock speed, or does it just know its an OC kernel? Cause somebody in here is dragging down our scores! :D

How about uploading your score being optional? like if say, ridiculous example, someone was listening to pandora and ran the benchmark on a whim...
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
It was mmeeeeeee. :D
[Epic 4G General] Acei:
It does take the actual running clock speed and grouped accordingly. That is, unless there is a bug in my code. :D

If the top entry shows your device correctly (inc. your clock speed), then they are grouped correctly as well. As you can see 1.0GHz and 1.2GHz are shown as two separate entries.
[Epic 4G General] Acei:
Haha... That's an interesting idea... :D

I was going to actually apply some stats to it - like ignore the bottom certain-% of entries.

The main issue I had with Smartbench 2010 was that I was manually collecting the scores and I kept only the best one so far and many complained that theirs never got anywhere near the scores shown on the chart. Smartbench 2011 uses average numbers and there will be many entries so hopefully it will not experience this issue again.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
OK cool re the clock speed... yah im sure the Devs would love their ROM names to come up... gotta run the GFs intercept tomorrow lol...

sounds good on the averaging, I didnt realise you were doing it manually before... I should have uploaded! Anyways, awesome work!
[Epic 4G General] Acei:
Just out of curiosity, when you have yours setup this way, what clock speed does it report on 2011?
[Epic 4G General] Acei:
Unfortunately, I don't think there is a standard method to get the ROM names. So far, it appears that I am only able to detect Cyanogen ROM. Ouch. :D

Thanks!
[Epic 4G General] asrielx1:
When i have it set to 1000-1200 and performance it shows "Your device (SPH-D700, 1.2GHz) (Android 2.2, Stock ROM) and at 200-1000 it shows everything the same except that it says 1.0GHz
[Epic 4G General] zstuart:
So far so good...
[Epic 4G General] Acei:
Cool. That was my intention. :D
[Epic 4G General] boominz28:
I just ran mine and I never had understood why my scores are lower then everyone elses, I have stock rom never rooted or cwm. its just plain jane

my score was

PI=864

GI=2214

times ran only 1
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
Just dl'ed and ran

Phone setup: Samsung Epic EB13 CWM 2.5.5 Genocide Kernel 0.3a OC to 1.2GHz

Results - Test 1:

Game index: 2476

Productivity Index: 1053

Results - Test 2:

Game index: 2528

Productivity Index: 1085

Results - Test 3:

Game index: 2608

Productivity Index: 1086

Results - Test 4:

Game index: 2617

Productivity Index: 1073
[Epic 4G General] Acei:
Smartbench 2011 v0.7 has been released. It will now allow you to sort results by either Average, Productivity or Games scores. Please re-install this version.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
I'll give it a try right now. :>
[Epic 4G General] boominz28:
it looks like your results will stay at the top while the rest are sorted
[Epic 4G General] Acei:
Yes, that was intentional for better visibility. Would it be easier if it is sorted as part of a bigger list?
[Epic 4G General] boominz28:
no I think its fine, was kind of confused at first.

Maybe would be cool to sort by same device or rom
[Epic 4G General] apatcas:
You know a long time ago i posted that our GPU will be better then the tegra 2, and i got trolled. All i have to say now is na na boo boo stick your head in poo poo.

Worst thing I was being contradicted by some people with no hardware technical knowledge. It's great to see that i was right.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9291824&postcount=8