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[Xoom General] regtee2:
There is a 5% discount code (PCW5) for PC World that works with the Xoom, but at £475 I'm still not tempted to bite.... Hopefully in a few months they'll be cheaper :)
[Xoom General] s.morris:
Can any one confirm if the UK wifi version will be silver, read somewhere that one of the versions would be, but couldn't remember which and the Motorola site does a great job of not showing the back :)

Also is there anyone listing accessories yet, fancy the plane doc and by some quirk of fate it just happens to be my birthday around the same time, So will get the kids on it :D

Steve
[Xoom General] Lothaen:
Has anyone heard if we are still on track for around 9th April?

I haven't heard anything to say otherwise.
[Xoom General] burden010:
That's what Dixons are still saying on my order page. I guess we'll find out nearer the time.

Also interested whether we'll get the silver version?
[Xoom General] :
Also interested in what color the xoom will have.

Maybe it like this.

Silver = GSM/3G EU

Black = Verizon 4G

Dark Gray = WIFI-only
[Xoom General] burden010:
Thanks, do you have a source for this or is it speculation? I'm not sure I like the idea of dark grey colour...!
[Xoom General] qwerp_:
i am waiting for the 3G version from CPW, heard they are selling it next month (April).

also, just a quick question, since the Wifi version does not have the GOBI chip (just a example), does that also means that it will not have a-gps? as it usually comes with the GSM modem.
[Xoom General] mmcclair:
Out for delivery	20/04/11	08:45

Wish I'd asked for it to be delivered to work
[Xoom General] Lothaen:
I'm still enjoying mine :)
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
Yours is the Carphone Warehouse 3G version like some of us? I wonder why we havn't heard anyhting about the store delivery ones yet.
[Xoom General] mmcclair:
Yeah, mine's the 3G too - to be delivered to my house. I reckon their store-pickups would have been sent up from the warehouse last night too.
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
I'v not had anyhting from them but I'll go ask in the store after work today in the hope that it has.
[Xoom General] mercuryzzz:
When you switch it on first time, can you please check between what languages you can choose? I have a usa wifi model and I'd like to flash european rom on it if there is italian language. Thanks :)
[Xoom General] mmcclair:
Yes, will do :)
[Xoom General] mmcclair:
It has arrived at my delivery address. But I'm not there...it's going to be a long day!
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
I feel for you, I hope you will afford me the same comfort when it happens to me, especially if it's gets delivered near the end of the week, cause i asked for store collection at my misus' local store, which, on the weekend, isn't my local store :(
[Xoom General] darkb1u3:
I'm still wondering if the UK 3G version will work here in Sweden, is there any way to find out?

Don't know much about 3G etc, will I just be able to pop in a sim card?
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
I'm pretty sure all of europe (most of the world) use GSM/UMTS outside of America, so I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work, since it's not network locked.
[Xoom General] mmcclair:
Ah here's hoping you get it today, or tomorrow at the latest.
[Xoom General] Janusian1:
Has anyone who opted for Ship to Store heard anything definite in relation to expected dates yet. Most people here who have had the email are ship to home - is that right?
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
Yeh, I'm going to go to the store tonight and see if it's there though. Highly doubt it but it's worth a try.
[Xoom General] OriginalThinking:
Just received my DHL tracking number now. Woo-Hoo, Xoom in time for Easter!
[Xoom General] Adam J Purcell:
I too have finally received a tracking number. Sadly it doesn't appear to actually be active yet.

My current concern is that they've shipped it to my billing address rather than the alternative delivery address I specified on preordering. The root of this concern was a phone call with Carphone Warehouse this morning in which they seemed to know nothing at all about the proper delivery address! I put them straight but have little faith they will actually get it right...
[Xoom General] tecuru:
They attempted to deliver mine at 10:17 but nobody home :( Will have to wait until tomorrow.

I did originally ask for it to be sent to work but they changed that to my home address without notice.
[Xoom General] Janusian1:
I have now had my tracking number for a ship to store order (and let's hope they do!). Hopefully should be there tomorrow!
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
Oh, that's a shame, I didn't know they did tracking for ship to store. Guess there is no chance mine is there today then since I'v had nothing from them.
[Xoom General] graham1981:
Just received my email from CFW, and i have a tracking code!, will receive the xoom tomorrow!
[Xoom General] OriginalThinking:
Yep, I saw all of that on Twitter. To be honest, neither CPW nor Motorola have come out of this with any glory. They are also delivering to my home address too, despite my asking it to go to a local store. Fortunately for me I'm off tomorrow so that isn't going to be an issue.
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
Interesting, it might be worth me checking if it's in the store today after all. If the tracking numbers are only for deliveries going to homes.

They're seriously rubbish at this arent they, you'd think with all the crap they've had from Moto in getting the thing here, they would have at least set up a strategy to get the damn thing out to people as quickly and efficiently as possible.

It's like tehy just don't give a **** anymore about the ~£600 we just gave them, they clearly make too much money these days to care about customers.
[Xoom General] Janusian1:
Mine was supposed to be a ship to store. I have little faith it will go there...
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
I got a "Ship to Store Order Confirmation" last night (4 times might I add).

Did you also get this? I'm wondering if the multiple copies of it I received should have infact been a notification that it was going to be ready to collect from store or something.
[Xoom General] pOOBAH1973:
It's required, so you can get software updates over the air.:)
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
Just went into store. They said it hadn't been and wouldn't be dispatched till I give ID in store. (The card I paid with) . Said I might get it Friday now.
[Xoom General] graham1981:
So has anyone actually received there Xoom 3g?, Im interested to see if they motorola have played around with the firmware or not, I have to wait until tomorrow to get mine.
[Xoom General] ntemples1:
Yes I received mine today, shipped yesterday, playing around with it now, it's a great piece of kit!! I am not sure about what data plan to go with though as I really don't want a contract for it, also in the android market I cannot see a section marked "tablet apps" so I am not sure how to find apps to put on it.

Also the dock that they sent is good quality motorola dock, very sturdy.

Data plans though can anyone give me any advice?
[Xoom General] mmcclair:
Italiano (Italia) and Italiano (Svizzera) were both on the list.
[Xoom General] mmcclair:
Did you have the 4G plastic placeholder in the SIM card slot? I've only just opened mine and that's what I got. Hope my 3G SIM works!
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
http://www.giffgaff.com, £10 goodybag pay as u go, unlimited texts and internet, unlimited is unlimited.

Best deal around, use them in 2 devices and XOOM soon as it arrives.
[Xoom General] tecuru:
Using my Xoom 3g had to get it from the delivery depot but happy so far :-)
[Xoom General] ntemples1:
yes I did, does that mean that 3g won't work?
[Xoom General] graham1981:
It will work, can you imagine them selling a 3G device,(as its advertised) and it wont work on 3g?.

I think its a safe bet it'll work....:)
[Xoom General] ukc101:
I had to do an update to get the 3g sims to actually see the sim card was very worried to start with asun had error saying invalid sim.

3g is blisteringly fast, managed to impress a hardened apple fan. left ity at work by mistake so have to wait until tomorrow forum another play.

FYI had work as a delivery address and ity actually turned up there!

iplayer didnt play video and bbc dont support player over 3g.

google maps wouldn't update through market either
[Xoom General] tecuru:
Can't seem to get my 3g sim to work it does go into the same place as the 4g sim doesn't it?
[Xoom General] ZorianM:
Well i'm a happy Xoom owner. gutted the free stand has not arived yet, i will just have to use the portfolio case for the time being.
[Xoom General] ukc101:
try going to about and there should be and eu update which fixed the sim issue forum me. and yes sim goes in the 4g slot
[Xoom General] tecuru:
Thanks got the sim working there was no update available for mine. Stuck the sim in a phone were it came to life and then worked fine in the xoom :-)
[Xoom General] Adam J Purcell:
Giffgaff certainly sounds like a good deal, especially for a smart phone. It all depends on how much 3G bandwidth you expect to get through in a month.

Personally I've opted to start off with "3" Pay As You Go data-only SIM cards - 3GB or 3 months, whichever comes first, for the princely sum of about £7.30 on eBay or Amazon Marketplace. Obviously the lack of texts and talktime allowance is not an issue on the Xoom, the only question is - how much 3G data will I want to use in practice? If it's less than 3GB a month then I'm doing alright!
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
Yeh, I forget sometimes that not everyone is looking for the largest data allowance available as I do, but I like to stream a lot and download stuff from my NAS at home over the internet.

As for texting, I'm pretty sure theres no reason you shouldn't be able to text from the XOOM. If the app is there you should be able to use it.

Hey guys, got my XOOM finally, turns out they did have it yesterday when i went there, they're just useless. So, I can't get Tapatalk Pro to work, just stays at receiving from server forever. Anyone else got it working on their 3G XOOM?
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
Guys, I'm going to need some help from those of you with the UK 3G XOOM, I'v bricked mine trying to root it and now I can't get it to boot, what a pita.

I can't seem to find files for the UK version anywhere to try fix it so I might need dumps off of someones device if they don't mind.

Thanks.
[Xoom General] pOOBAH1973:
Since the stock firmware for reflashing/relocking the U.S. XOOM is officially available here:

http://developer.motorola.com/produ...utm_source=supportforums&utm_term=unlockboard

I've now asked when these will be available for the European XOOM models.

I'll update here, as soon as I get an answer.
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
Thanks, although I'm not counting on getting it for the EU version ever so I'm looking to find a community solution. Talk about a **** way to end the week. Nice new bricked XOOM that won't even turn off either.

EDIT: I Got it to boot now but it's using the Verizon system and boot so it thinkgs it's a Verizon tab, obviously nothing works properly. If Anyone with their 3G one has a bit of time I would be endlessly grateful if you could get me boot.img and system.img so I can fix it. I have No idea when I might be able t get the stock one off Moto if ever. Thanks
[Xoom General] Janusian1:
Turned up today.....to my home. Glad to have it. Hopefully my interaction with CPW ends here...
[Xoom General] chazam:
It seems that both CarphoneWarehouse and PCWorld/Dixons both had a piss poor launch. :( I hope everyone enjoys their Xooms as much as I am and that the wait was worth it. :)
[Xoom General] leeharo:
just went into a store of currys, and wish to refund my Xoom..

they refused to refund it because they said that it was opened!

the box of Xoom was not sealed and it was at the same condition as i just bought it

wtf u currys/pcworld
[Xoom General] graham1981:
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Why do you want to Return it?
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
Hmm

I was a bit concerned about this when mine arrived, I noticed it was not sealed in any way the box just opens straight up.

Those of us who pre-ordered can refund under the distance selling act but I don't know where you stand legally in your case.
[Xoom General] nforsans:
They are not allowed to deny you a refund - you have 21 days to return it, no questions asked. Ask to speak to the store manager and if you don't go anywhere speak to the Office of Fair Trading - they have a consumer service available here

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentcitizensandrights/Consumerrights/index.htm

and they operate a phone service for you to ask them about your rights. I used it before and they were of good advice. I don't think they are allowed to deny you a refund if the device is in its original condition.
[Xoom General] leeharo:
cheers mate! will definitely take a look on it first...

yes it is their policy -- if you change your mind in 21 days , Currys would offer you a refund

so i changed my mind and decided to get a refund, the staff told me that there are fingerprints/scratches on the screen protector that means i have used it

i cant take it out and have a look before changing my mind?! what policy it is...:mad:
[Xoom General] nforsans:
In which case replace the screen protector then take it back to another Currys or PC World - when I bought mine from them they said I could return to any of the 2 chains. If your device is in original condition with no damage then you should not have a problem. try another store if they are getting difficult
[Xoom General] leeharo:
it isn't even the "screen protector" that we have to buy it...just the sticker on the screen comes with the Xoom

arghhh that really pissed me off... would try again at another store after the bank holiday
[Xoom General] Cerberus86:
Legally you can't get a refund because you don't like the product so sorry dude your out of luck it may be their policy to offer a refund but its their policy and such at their discreation, you should have went into a shop to try one first to see if you liked it
[Xoom General] DCarey:
Or order online to be covered by distance selling regulations
[Xoom General] Lothaen:
clean the fingerprints off first?
[Xoom General] ntemples1:
I have got the sim and put credit in but for some reason no internet connect? what apn settings do i need for this? I am not sure this will actually work looking at their forums they say you can't use these sims for tablets??
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
Nah that's wrong/old info mate, I use it myself.

You need to manually set up the APN, here are my settings:

Apps->Settings->Wireless&Networks->MobileNetworks->Access Point Names->New APN (Top right):

Name: giffgaff

APN: giffgaff.com

Username: giffgaff

Password: password

MCC: 234

MNC: 10

APN Type: default

Save it(top right)->Go back, and tick the little green box next to it, and you're good to go. Enjoy.

P.S. If I didn't mention a setting, it's blank

P.P.S : Some people mentioned you may ned to put it in a phone first to activitate it then move it over, I'm not sure if this is correct or not.

P.P.P.S: They give out microsims for iPads so there is no reason they can't be used in tablets.
[Xoom General] ntemples1:
Nice one mate thanks, using those settings it's working fine, just set up a portable wifi hotspot too and works great!!

I am getting a bit of ghosting on the screen though which is a shame, but loving the honeycomb experience though!
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
No problem. What do you mean ghosting? The widgets have a ghosting effect when you drag them but I'v not witnessed any other ghosting due to the screen.
[Xoom General] ntemples1:
I just noticed the anything black trails a bit, you can really see it if you enable flash then check out this site:

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/testsoftware/ghosting.html

you can see it trailing, it must be to do with the LCD refresh rate. it's the only thing that bugging me really, the rest of the unit is really good. Shame they didn't put an IPS panel in it though.
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
Ah yes, I see what you mean. It does soffer quite a bit. I'm happy with it though, I'm not planning to watch action films or sports on it anyway.
[Xoom General] :
This is just me speculate and try to find out what color the different versions will have, do not have any source. When i look around on difference xooms i can see that its seems to be 3different colors. Silver, Black, and some almost black (dark gray).

Silver we have all seen, and also the version that are on sale in US right now. And now we have the wifi-only also that seems to have a slightly different color.

Wifi-only

http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...ervices/Tablets/MOTOROLA-XOOM-with-WiFi-US-EN
[Xoom General] :
All versions off XOOM have GPS.

Here you can see the spec off the 3 versions off XOOM that is on sale.

http://developer.motorola.com/products/compare/?items=17869,17982,17987
[Xoom General] Lothaen:
Think they were asking about Assisted GPS (A-GPS) - not just GPS
[Xoom General] :
Don't you mind answer that question instead off just point out that i maybe gave the wrong answer.

Can be wrong now. Assisted GPS is when the phone/tab takes help from the cellular network/station to faster decide your current position. And if you not have connection to a network is will only use the gps.

So i don't think the wifi-only have A-gps becuse it dont have access to a network all the time like a GSM/3G/4G have.
[Xoom General] burden010:
Hmm, they don't show the back on the American 4G version but from some side photos it does look the same as the wifi only version... maybe.

Can someone who has the Xoom let us know?
[Xoom General] qwerp_:
now, this gets interesting... :D didn realized that.. thanks for the link.

but my opinion, its quite useless the GPS without data connection (google services).

usually when we need the GPS is where we are sort of lost, or we are finding places to go, without data, its going to be a hard time.

you might be able to tether to your phone, but i last remembered,when u switch on hotspot on your phone, the phone itself is not able to use the internet (last time i tested on stock android).
[Xoom General] burden010:
You could install a sat nav app with preloaded maps...
[Xoom General] :
If it's important to have access to data and will use googles services that require data you should by the gsm/3G version and all your problems and thought are solved.

They have made 2 version available for us consumers, one for us that will use it at home whit wifi and other hotspots, and one for those who are traveling allot and need to have access to the internet were ever they go. So the choice is up to you.

I will use my XOOM the most time at home, and if i ever use it for navigation i will use navigation program that can download maps at home before i get in my car. So the wifi-only will be perfect for me but maybe not for others.
[Xoom General] Lothaen:
I don't think the wifi only will have a-gps either - but i dont know the answer 100%
[Xoom General] musashiken:
Well if you see the spec sheet on the Motorola Xoom with Wifi page, it does mention A-Gps under Connectivity. In fact if you compare it side by side with the spec sheet of the 3G Xoom, the only difference is the absence of Data capability on the Wifi Xoom.

http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U.../Tablets/ci.MOTOROLA-XOOM-with-WiFi-US-EN.alt
[Xoom General] burden010:
Hmm, weird. But it also points this out:

1. Network dependent feature, not available in all areas. Airtime, data charges, and/or additional charges may apply.

I wouldn't count on the wifi only version having a-gps. Kinda goes against the point of wifi only.
[Xoom General] musashiken:
Well that disclaimer is on both pages. Still it's a little ambiguous.
[Xoom General] faizalmzain:
wifi network can also be used to assist GPS locking. If you use android phone you should know about it, google maps keeps suggesting to turn on wifi for better locking process on top of data.
[Xoom General] Lothaen:
I haven't seen that page before.

and for a moment I thought it didnt:

but then I saw the bit below too:

I wonder if the wifi is assisting the GPS then like suggested. Interesting - either way I hope to find out in a few weeks time!
[Xoom General] burden010:
OK, yes point taken that a-gps can use wifi. I guess that means that we can use wifi tethering for a-gps. I'll probably just go with a standard gps app with pre-loaded maps though.
[Xoom General] felixthecat:
my simple understanding was that aGPS is assised GPS via the internet weather by wifi or 3g, ie maps that are needed are downloaded.
[Xoom General] burden010:
That is correct.
[Xoom General] :
Saw that pcdworld lowered the price to 479.

When I put my order i paid 499, will I be refunded the difference?

Or do i have to make a new order to take advantage of the new price?
[Xoom General] turbo_lew:
I have a friend that works for Currys. They should be in by Thursday :)

one other thing he mentioned is that the price listed on the store computer for in-store sales is £449 wifi £549 3G (yes they should be getting 3G one's too, at least there listed on the warehouse/store computers there) also this price inc vat. not sure why it cheaper than the on-line, however they have lowered there on-line price today.

He has confirmed that they already have had delivery to the store of all the accessories.

Fingers crossed I'll have my grubby little paws on a 3G one by the weekend :)
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
WHere are you going to get your 3G version? I was baout to pre-order mine on CPW for £599.99 (with free charge dock). The girl in CPW showed me their catalogue that starts Thursday with the 3G listed at £599.99 and the dock for £17.99.
[Xoom General] turbo_lew:
Currys if they come in this week. If not it will be the WiFi.

I cannot guarantee Currys will have them (3G) or telling you where to buy, however if what's on there computers is right then they should be in this week (3G & WiFi)

Just asked for an update from my friend, Will let you know soon. fingers crossed.
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
Thanks, I'll wait for an update. If the girl in CPW was right they should be in stock at their warehouses for order-to-store next-day delivery on Thursday. They have been telling online-pre-order customers though that they won't ship till the 19th of April.
[Xoom General] turbo_lew:
just heard back, there not in yet but there showning (WiFi & 3G) on the system so should be in in a few days.

was doing some googling early and found this

simplyelectronics.net/mainproduct.php?pid=13556

I haven't looked into it much, not sure if it per-order or pysical stock, It has dropped from 21 this morning to 17 now.

I'll update when i know more.
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
THat's interesting, maybe they're breaking the release date. I'm not interested in buying a Wifi Tablet though, as useful to me as a paperweight. Waiting on the 3G, hopefully the upgrade will mean they'll have ironed out some bugs in the US version.
[Xoom General] turbo_lew:
Great I've been registered since 2006 and now i've lost my posts and it's classing my as a new member, can't post links and have to wait 5 mins between posts. I wasn't massively active on the forum this passed year but still :(

I'm sure I had read somewhere that there was a delay in the pre-orders from CPW
[Xoom General] turbo_lew:
WiFi or 3G not too bothered, I can tether to my phone or use my mobile broadband sim.

I will get the 3G if it's available if not WiFi will do, I've been waiting for a decent tablet since Christmas, nearly bought an Archos 101. glad I didn't.
[Xoom General] alias_neo:
Heh, I saw one of those Archos things in Curry's a couple of weeks ago, all I can say is WOW! The quality is the epitome of low. The screen surface texture is horrible too which makes it look worse and the way the whole things presses in when you touch it, I really hope the XOOM is nothing less than a big brother to my Galaxy Tab.
[Xoom General] darkb1u3:
Any of these UK stores that might be getting the 3G version shipping outside of the UK, Sweden in this case?
[Xoom General] turbo_lew:
Well thank god I didn't buy the archos, I've had a play with the galaxy tab and wasn't too impressed, I didn't like the UI and just seemed to be a bit small for me. It might be really good phone/tablet, I lost interest after seeing the UI.

Vanilla or HTC sense for me