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[Xoom General] angermeans:
No offense but I am a little tired of forum thread after forum thread about this. Most phones off contract now a days cost between 550-600 dollars. So why the hell wouldn't a tablet with 3G, WiFi, and a free upgrade to 4G be anything less than what it cost. If you don't want to pay 800 off contract then luckily you have options. 599 on contract which I woldnt do but that's just me, or wait for the price to come down or the WiFi one to come out. I cannot believe how many people are *****ing about the price. It is the worlds first Android 3.0 tablet and for as far back as I can remember you pay a heftyprice if you want to be an early adopter. I bought the 800 Xoom and I am happy with my purchse especially when I will get LTE on it. I see know need it buying a gimped tablet with only WiFi as I need my mobile devices to be well mobile.

All this *****ing over 150-200 dollars is rediculous. All I hear about the Xoom is the price and the endless comparison to the lowest priced Ipad. They are not even in the same ballpark. If you spend 499 you get a wifi only, 16 gb, 512 ram, not as good cameras front and back and most of all it is apple and their walled garden. Why do people keep comparing these? You need to compae with at least similarly speced items like the 32 gb with 3G.

If people don't want to buy the 800 Xoom, then so be it but lets stop *****ing about it it gets us no where. It is worth everypennyof 800 for what you get ans it is only going to get better and lower priced as more tablets hit the market. Either way the Xoom will catch on and no it isn't in trouble because of the ipad and samsung rethnking the pricing if you read the entire article you would see that they had planned to charge more than the galaxy tab which would of more than likely been 800 or more as I believe the galaxy tab was 699 at launch. No one is forcing youto buy a Xoom so stop with the price comparisons ans if you want one then for gods sake stop *****ing about 150-200 more when you are already dropping 599 for the thing. Look at what you get for that extra 200. More ram, more internal space, expandable memory (when. It launches), 3G upgradeable to 4G, a btter screen, android 3.0, a better camera front and back, better hardware (in my opinion), the wonderful devs here on xda will have this thing do everything thanks to be unlockable (thanks moto), and best of all we aren't stuck dealing with apple. On another note it still has better specs than any tablet that is going to launch that has been announced. So please stop whining.
[Xoom General] chernggoh:
This was awesome.
[Xoom General] mazz0310:
Wow do I agree with you so much. $800 is justified. Motorola only has one price point which competes with Apple's equivalent. I wish people would stop complaining about the price.
[Xoom General] Ballzdeeep:
Amen, brother.
[Xoom General] calin75:
It's mainly about options bro, with the xoom there's only one; very expensive one.
[Xoom General] hi_its_ryan:
There are several options "bro", the problem is that too many here choose the one involving complaining incessantly on the internet.
[Xoom General] cwizardtx:
This is where I think everyone has the wrong mentality.

With the iPad and iPad2 ONLY APPLE manufactures and sells this product. The options are limited by them.

With ANY android tablet the options are not just "1 xoom". The options are:

Archos 101 Internet Tablet

Motorola Xoom

Galaxy Tab

etc..

the list goes on... so you see... you are NOT stuck with one option unless you continue to limit yourself to one manufacturer.

iOS: Only 1 device can run it

Android: Completely open - anyone is welcome to make a device for it.

It means more competition, more product diversity and more choices for us.
[Xoom General] Earthbrain:
It may be true that $800 is comparable to the high end ipad. However, we are talking about the general population and take into account their spending potential. Not everyone has the money to spend $800 on a tablet.

So if they see a bargain, they will go to it. Again, we are talking about the general population as a whole. Not someone who can easily afford the $800 tablet and can take the time to rationale the justifiable price point.

Just take a look at the ipad versions. Which of the 6 versions do you think sell the most?
[Xoom General] calin75:
Dawg, the only option we have right now with the xoom is whether to buy it full price or get $200 off and get raped by Verizon for 2 years. Why is Apple releasing all models at and carriers at the same time? the xoom is the first HC tablet in the market and not to offer a WiFi model from the beginning is nothing more than pure blasphemy.
[Xoom General] hi_its_ryan:
Why would Motorola undercut it's own flagship product's sales by releasing a cheaper limited version when it doesnt have to? Why squander the lead the Xoom has on Samsung, HTC, RIM, HP, etc?

Something tells me the VZW-Motorola Xoom contract has a part to play in this as well. It's squarely in VZW's interest to have exclusivity on the only android 3.0 tablet on the market for as long as possible, a wifi-only version cuts into their market saturation directly.
[Xoom General] madsquabbles:
so you're really ok with a phone being $550-$600?? what the pricing tells me is that the phones are far overpriced.
[Xoom General] trackerk:
By the time I left the Verizon store the day after launch I was out over $1,000. For the Xoom, the gel case, charging stand, keyboard, etc... The Xoom has barely left my side in the last week and is in constant use (just like my gtab and q1 ultra before it). Since I use it for work, I will easily extract $200 of value from it every month this year. The Xoom is awesome and will only get better. Great value in my opinion.
[Xoom General] angermeans:
Your right in a way but we are not talking about the "general public" here. We are talking about the hundreds of posts like this one that complain incently that the Xoom is overpriced as all they look at is the 499 ipad that is inferior to the Xoom in every way. Who cares if the Xoom won't sell as many as the ipad it is targeted to an audience that wants something different. All it needs to do is compete not sell 15 million like the ipad. I am talking about people that write posts like this and just ***** about the price. They'll pay 500 no problem but will ***** and moan about 150-200 more dollars even tho they are getting many many many more features. If you don't want the Xoom than get the Ipad we don't need assumptions like the OP made saying that the Xoom will fail because they failed to meet a certain price point. Not to mention that the Xoom is the first and o can guarentee that we will see a price drop and a wifi only version but they dont want to wait for that they want to ***** and bring up the ipad.

By the way this is in no way targete at you as I partly agree with your posts I am just sick of these posts " the Xoom will fail as it is not as cheap as the. Wifi only 16gb Ipad. They are in no way the same product so lets move on. This is a site of early adopters that pay good hard earned money and get the most out of their products. We are in every way the opposite of what apple and its iphone and ipad stand for so why are we *****ing about wanting that price point. We are the same people that gladly dropped 529 for the google nexus one without even using the product and was happy to do so and most have probably had multiple phones over this past year. Lets all grow up and get over what motorola and verizon feel this Xoom is worth. Get it or don't but shut up in the process.
[Xoom General] eallan:
You guys are silly. What reason could you have for defending the high price other than feeling dumb for spending too much or having moto sign your paycheck.

I bought a xoom too. At least I know it was too much.
[Xoom General] angermeans:
I totally agree with you great investment in my opinion
[Xoom General] angermeans:
I agree they def are but the more features we get the more these phones will cost. You cant tell me you didn't know that is what they cost and I don't see anyone saying "but apple is cheaper" because they are 650 and 750 off contract for their iPhones. The point is phones are overpriced but you can see why tablets cost this much when compared to phones.
[Xoom General] Earthbrain:
First, from the title, it does not that the Xoom 3G/4G "will fail." It says that it is in trouble....meaning that it will not sale as many as it had anticipated. If the rumor of the Sam's price and the possible lowered price of the Samsung tab did not exist, then the number of the 3G/4G would probably be bigger.

Also, I did not whine about the $800 being expensive on its own. It is being expensive "relative" to the alternatives. Do you think that if the Sam's club rumor was true of being $539....do you think that just having 3G/4G itself is worth $800-$539 = $261? Do you think that the 10.1 Samsung tab with almost identical specs with its lower price point (if true) would not sway others from getting the Samsung instead?

Of course you could argue that you pay a higher price for being an early adopter...which I agree is true. However, some would have the patience to wait it out. But the bottom line is that the 3G/4G is now "in trouble" because it would change some consumers' mind and would affect its sale number.
[Xoom General] hi_its_ryan:
The 3G/4G cannot be 'in trouble' because of unreleased competition, sry. You are guilty of premature doomsaying
[Xoom General] Earthbrain:
Like I had said before, even though they are "unreleased", such news (or rumors) would have people thinking and may postpone buying the 3G/4G version.

For example, if there are no news about the ipad 2, LG tablet, Playbook, Samsung 10.1 tab, HP tablet, etc.... more people would buy the Xoom.

Informations are what make people think and decide.
[Xoom General] Banggugyangu:
Look at it like a car.

The Lamborghini Gallardo is about $150000. It has many features not available in other cars below its price point. It has a certain air about itself that isn't present in cars below its price point.

The Honda Civic is about $16000. It doesn't have near as many features as the Lamborghini Gallardo. It costs a small fraction of the cost of the Gallardo.

Obviously, which company do you believe sells more of these 2 cars? Honda. However, of the people who purchase Gallardos, do you believe any of them regret spending the $150000 on the car? No. They knew what they were getting when they bought the car. Sure they spent a lot more on a single car than most do on cars for their entire life time, but that doesn't matter to them. They got the car for the exclusivity and experience that will only come with that car.

The Motorola Xoom has better hardware and more/better features than the iPad 2. To say that it's overpriced is just foolish. The price increase is easily comparable to the hardware increase that you get from going from any tablet to the Xoom.
[Xoom General] newonXDA:
You should compare Gallardo to Skyline in this case. Because their speed is identical and the price is double. Now, probably you are talking about build qualities. Do you really thing Motorola build quanlities can beats Apple? I assume that most of the Xoom buyer is their first tablet. Because most of the xoom buyer would said how great and the device is always be next to them. Well, I can tell you that this is how I felt one years ago when I got my iPad. A lot of people saids that the weight is not important. For my experience, the weight is VERY important as you will hold it for most of the time. IPad 2 has A5 processor which no one can tell how fast it is. If you search the net, the PowerVR 540 is on LG Op 3D is pretty awesome and it is faster than the Tegra 2 on LG OP 2x. And IPad 2 has the better version 543.

If you take a look at the score on Ipad and multiply by 9m which Apple claims, it is pretty amazing. But again, no one knows how fast it is until March 11.

Extra ports on Xoom? which port you use frequently? I agree that iPad 2 should at least have a SD card port. But really not everyone needs it.

I know people who just bought Xoom will defends on it, but the facts is you are paying and 1/3 more than what you need? why don't you save it for the next year.

I don't know someone realized that Apple product has really good resell value. I bought a 2 months old Galaxy S for 200. And sold $750 for my 6 months old iphone 4 and $180 for my 3 years old iphone 3g.

And very last, I think no one mentioned about it. Until Steve said that, there are not less than a thousand apps for Android Tablet ??? as compare to 65,000 to iPad apps.

So basically, you are like having a Lamborghini with a delay shipping of wheels. You just cannot run it. For regular stuff like email, calender etc ? you can do it on the smart phone.
[Xoom General] calin75:
Wow, snap!!!
[Xoom General] neonerz:
you guys are crazy. Is $800 a lot of money? Sure. Bottom line is the Xoom is a GREAT tab. Nothing out even compares to it spec wise.

You don't want to spend $800 dollars now, you cant get 800 with of tablet RIGHT NOW. Will prices drop as more comparable tablets hit the market? Sure. Just remeber, moto only has to sell half as many Xooms to make the same amount as the $500 future tab will need to.

Icing on the cake is, all the great devs who have already gotten their hands on the Xoom. I forsee a dev scene for the Xoom that matches the dev scene for the nexus one or original droid. Maybe even better.
[Xoom General] newonXDA:
As I though iPad2 killed Xoom.
[Xoom General] goldsworthy:
Someone told me the glass cover on the I Pad is glued on this time instead of clamped on, and that the glass is much thinner then the 1st I pad is this true?
[Xoom General] funnycreature:
Mine is still very much alive and getting lots of love. Go troll somewhere else with your negativity.
[Xoom General] armychris28210:
addicted to winning

since most here have purchased a xoom or want to(there are a few trolls and retards), we understand that technology gets old fast and the we get our kicks by having the latest and greatest and doing what others cant... i think that i got a fair deal on a new toy.Im not gonna devalue my investment. if you cant rationalize the cost, then wait for a cheaper version or a price cut, or get a 16 gig ipad wifi...

oh, by the way,

i got mine for $579...off contract..guess my words are useless.

yay me.

winning!
[Xoom General] brucewilsonpa:
Bor-r-ring! I wish the fanboys would stick to I pad forums! FWIW I too paid 800 for my Xoom, plus 50 for the hand dock/charger. If (right now a big if) I decide to try an ipad2 I will get the comparable model 32G with wifi and 3g.... for 729 - so what's the big deal about the Xoom's price. BTW I'm not wealthy - I buy and sell gadgets frequently and rarely keep one more than 6 months.
[Xoom General] SemperAndroid:
I am happy with my Xoom. We are off to a slower start than I would like with regards to app development/availability, but that will right itself. I also wish that Google would have enforced a AndroidManifest property to help filter out uncompatible Tablet apps. I can't tell you how many emails I have sent telling/asking developers to use maxSdkVersion.

I have 2 IPads as well and I don't use them b/c I hate IOS's fake multithreaded app functionality. I also feel as the Apple platform is costly with $100 dev fees. I despise the facist grip on development that Apple wields. BUT more than anything, I feel as if the App store is so corporatized with big biz that many of the guys like us on XDA have no chance to compete. Android is completely the opposite.

So I could do without all the forum threads complaining about Xoom pricing. I am willing to bet that given a few months these same people will be buying a Xoom b/c this device is the leanest, meanest, MACHINE on the block.
[Xoom General] checkbox111:
The trouble is a lot of people brand something as **** just because they can't afford it; or in the case of ipad fanboys, beyond their technical understanding!
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
I can afford it. I just don't

want

to pay $800 for it. There isn't a value proposition for me.
[Xoom General] albundy2010:
Same. It's not about what you can afford. More so spending the money on something you think is not worth it.

I can buy a 500 CPU or even a 1000 one. I wont though. I wont spend more than 200. Same thing applies for tablets, cars, clothes etc.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
I can easily afford the Xoom. Its just that I am not going to spend 800 dollars on a tablet that cannot play videos that my YEAR OLD iPad can play. I seriously thought the Xoom would be, and SHOULD be playing more than the year old iPad. Some of us have REAL reasons behind our branding of the tablet as "****". Mine are entirely hardware related. I think hardware shortcomings encompass 90% of the complaints against the Xoom on this board, with the other 10% having to do with the shortage of apps. I am no ipad fanboy. In fact the plan was to just rent the iPad for a bit and sell it back to iPad fanboys when an Android tablet came out that was worth it. Still waiting.
[Xoom General] panicproducer:
Most of the complaints that I have seen are due to the Honeycomb platform being very much a 1.0 version release and I have not seen very many commenting on the hardware
[Xoom General] mith500:
Yes it is true, according to Ifixit.com

"We did a quick glass and LCD thickness comparison:

iPad 1:	lcd = 3.2 mm	glass = .85 mm

iPad 2:	lcd = 2.4 mm	glass = .62 mm

The thickness of these components — especially that of the glass — could drastically reduce the durability of the device, especially the glass’ resistance to shattering. We’ll see in due time if the percentage of folks with broken iPad 2 front glass is dramatically different than that of the original iPad.

Source: http://www.ifixit.com/blog/blog/2011/03/11/ipad-2-teardown/

The front panel is now glued to the rest of the device, greatly increasing the chances of cracking the glass when trying to remove it.

From Step 23: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPad-2-Wi-Fi-Teardown/5071/3
[Xoom General] mith500:
double post
[Xoom General] goldsworthy:
GLUE instead of reusable clamps? thats cheap!
[HTC Incredible S] TMartin:
Thanks to 911sniper

Update for HTC Vivo/Incredible S

RUU_Vivo_hTC_Asia_HK_CHT_1.37.708.2_Radio_Radio_20.23.30.0802U_38.02.01.11_M_release_174292_signed.exe

PG32IMG_Vivo_hTC_Asia_HK_CHT_1.37.708.2_Radio_Radio_20.23.30.0802U_38.02.01.11_M_release_174292_signed.zip

Enjoy!
[HTC Incredible S] more2come:
What's new about this one? Gingerbread with SenseUI ?
[HTC Incredible S] lawrencegood:
thanks your providing.

could you provide rom only?

it is easy to install to other type's phone.
[HTC Incredible S] brenopoubel:
Can someone tell me what's new in this update?

Comes with Gingerbread and new sense?

It's applicable on Incredible from UK ?

WHen i try to apply update it says WRONG ID
[HTC Incredible S] doctorsax:
This is NOT a new ROM for the Incredible S, just an Asian region version with appropriate language options. It does not have a Gingerbread update. In fact, the latest Froyo ROM version is newer than this - it's now at 1.38.707.1.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Willieumm:
Does anyone have an EXT4 compatible version of the BIOS boot screens and/or bubble MMS apk?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] VNMenIeu:
Does anyone know how to remove the Inception movie completely? After uninstalled from Titanium Backup, I open doubleTwist and the movie is still there. Wonder anyone know where the real file is located.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] TheShadowMan:
You only uninstalled the launcher. You have to delete it from your SD card. It should be in /sdcard/movie
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] VNMenIeu:
Thanks, bro! found it.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] flyinbird93:
please tell me you at least ported it to your pc before dumping...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] VNMenIeu:
No I dumped it. I already have it on BD.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pavaccar:
So I am trying to flash the new CM7 Gingerbread but when I need to flash the kernel(First Time) when I enter download it just gets stuck at Downloading Do not turn off Target!!! any ideas on how to get past this?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diablo009:
U might be better off posting in that thread, or updating ur thread title to reflect CM7 to get answers faster.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Miami_Son:
Have you read the CM7 thread in Dev? This ROM is not yet fully functional, so unless you know what you're doing I would stick to more tested ROMs.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flashman2002:
Try a different USB port or computer. Also make sure you get into download mode using the button combos.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trell959:
Well use a different port. Also make sure you have Odin open before you plug your phone in
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cappysw10:
^^THIS^^ Why would anyone want to run this anyway?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcord11758:
Is this on your screen or in Odin. Part of the instruction was to not enable autoboot, so of course after the kernel flash the phone... well it does not boot. If Odin completed its steps and the blue status bar on your phone screen is complete then unplug pull battery three button recovery follow other steps

If it is in Odin I would ask if you had ext 4 enabled as instructions stated before kernel flash

As to why one would install cm7, you only have to run it for a couple minutes to realize it is out of this world. Believe the hype
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flashman2002:
Because it is fully functional. Most people do not have any force closes or issues that are listed. This is by far the best rom available because of 2.3.3 imo
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General] Yeabsira:
nike gps and wifi. I read from another threads that my nike has gps capable processor the only thing missing is the driver.So how can i install the driver or do i have to dump the radio ,anyways i am confused

Thanks
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General] Hakim Rahman:
use these drivers and extract on your PC
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General] Yeabsira:
I have extracted the driver,then what? I don't know much about it

PLease tell me all the steps.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General] Yeabsira:
I tried dumping the radio ROM as shown in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=359015 but after typing rtask c it doesn't enter the QC dignostics mode all it says is <command error>

please help
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General] Yeabsira:
I extracted the driver in the windows route and tried dumping the radio ROM as shown in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=359015 and after i type every command i only says <command error> It Won't insatall three devices as you guys said.

what did i miss.

please help
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] fcnaben:
Just installed the NI Adam apps (Canvas, Calendar, Quickoffice.apk) apps on my Xoom and they all work just fine in case anyone was wondering.

Sniffer doen't really work.

Don't test other

Link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=928832
[LG Optimus 2x] sinni800:
Does anybody know if the Sony Ericsson LiveView "watch" works with the Optimus Speed correctly? It works from 2.1+, but with some smartphones it works sub-par I heard.

So I want to know how it works with the LGOS. :)

It'll be an instant order if it works well.

Argue that it is a gimmick all you want ;) I want it.
[LG Optimus 2x] sinni800:
Sorry for dual posting, but this thread has been going down way too much. Now that people actually own the 2x I'd like to push this :)
[LG Optimus 2x] magfal:
woks so so

some disconnects but other than that ist great
[LG Optimus 2x] sinni800:
Some? What does that mean? How many times a day, for example? If it's once per day that's endurable.
[LG Optimus 2x] Kamui_:
Got it for my Optimus 2x. Works like charm! The problem is the app that you have to install in phone. It must be always running but android sometimes kill it...Searching for a workaround

This will help also http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14227901&postcount=432
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kdunn1994:
I'm doing this for my sis, i would like to know how the steps in order to flash from her rom (iced glacier) to CM7.