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[EVO 4G General] metalm:
Only way to do it that I know of is:

1. Download a Sense-based ROM (i.e. Fresh)

2. Do a Nandroid back up of your current ROM

3. Flash the Sense based ROM, reboot

4. Once the phone comes up, go in to settings...About phone... and then system updates (I think that's where it is, not running a sense-based ROM right now, and can't remember exactly what the menu option says)

5. Update PRL

6. Reboot back in to recovery and do a Nandroid restore of CM7

If anyone knows an easier way to do it, PLEASE correct me. I hate going through these steps just to update the PRL.
[EVO 4G General] TorxT3D:
prl fixed my 3g issues, FINALLY!!! Thanks sprint!!

5 out of 6 bars, myn rls5

tested in my house in the same "good signal" spot i always test at.

1100kbps down/650kbps up

whew!! glad thats been addressed.

that terrible 100-200kbps was killing me.

later imma go around the corner and test directly in front of the sprint tower. lol just to see what i can max the phn at.
[EVO 4G General] cocaineblunts:
thx for the help!
[EVO 4G General] GatoEnFuego:
We'll wait for you to report back that it was just a coincidence. :D
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
.51 down before

.58 down after

:rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] OutdoorOBW:
Im getting 1800+ DL and only 300-400UL speeds now.
[EVO 4G General] cocaineblunts:
i updated everything and it doubled my speed 3G speed

PLR 60676

Radio 2.15.00.11.19

Wimax 27167 R01

PRI 1.90003

NV 1.90003

3G was at

.45 Down

.38 Up

Now

.98 Down

.56 Up

gotta wait to test out 4G
[EVO 4G General] SilverStone641:
Just updated as well. Seems like i have more bars, but my speeds are still abysmal. 322kbps up

428kbps down
[EVO 4G General] edufur:
The PRL is essentially a hosts list file for towers. Updating your list is NOT what gives you higher speeds. If you do end up with some better speeds, it is likely because a tower was added in your area and it has better bandwidth than previously connected towers.

Some of this additional bandwidth may, however, be short lived as more and more customers start discovering the tower through their PRL updates.

So... to be clear, more towers = more capacity and greater speeds for SOME... because it really only affects you if you are in the actual area where the towers were added.

I cannot imagine any scenario where a PRL update would reduce your speeds unless somehow the update causes your phone to favor a certain tower over another... and the tower being favored has less bandwidth available. These would be very rare situations and unlikely noticed by anyone in this community since we represent a small slice of the customer population.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
edufur, well said. If there's no new towers that the new prl addresses, speeds won't increase.

I'm surprised no one has compared 60674/5/6 to see how they differ exactly. There's a poster on howardforums that usually typically posts the differences, but haven't seen anything posted yet.
[EVO 4G General] strung:
Isn't PRL only for roaming? e.g. if your on Sprint towers it'll find them automatically without the PRL?
[EVO 4G General] Jimdog420:
Each update to prl only adds towers. Might be other side of the states so might not Evan matter or be advantageous upgrading for most peeps

Swyped from a galaxy far far away......
[EVO 4G General] hawaiian:
Just want to point out that the PRL has nothing to do with Sprint towers. If Sprint adds a tower in your area your phone finds it and is authorized to use it because it has the same SID as the rest of the sprint towers.

All a PRL does is tell your phone if it can't find a Sprint tower it can connect through a tower owned by Verizon or Altel (other carriers have agreements with sprint. I just know Altel & Verizon off the top of my head)

When a PRL is updated it could be good or bad for the end user. Carriers enter into new roaming agreements or roaming agreements expire.

Unless you have one of the doctored PRLs that has the roam indicator turned off you should see an R or a triangle while your roaming.

Bottom line is if you're in an area where you have Sprint coverage (no roam indicator)the PRL does nothing for you at all.
[EVO 4G General] barry.bishop72:
I have 60671 and when I hit update PRL, it produces a no PRL update available, any ideas?:confused:
[EVO 4G General] hawaiian:
do you have a rom where ##775# or ##778# works? If so a link was posted on one of these PRL threads to the 60676 PRL. Copy the prl to your sd. Do the #775 or #778 and load the prl that way
[EVO 4G General] barry.bishop72:
thanks, that worked, still would like to know why the update won't show up automatically though.
[EVO 4G General] tangstang:
I work at a service and repair location at the moment and we were instructed to update prl's on all devices we do tech work on because they also REMOVE towers, when I was told about this the particular area being affected was in Florida and while I am nowhere near Florida we were still instructed to do this.
[EVO 4G General] thaprinze:
Well, for what it's worth, here are a series of network performance tests I tried to run on PRL's 75 & 76. This is a clean Sprint Lovers (2/25/11 build) Rom & is essentially stock. I don't have any services syncing outside of my default Gmail account, which hardly ever gets any new emails anyway.

Would anyone care to explain (as best as they can) a) why is there such a difference in performance between the two PRL's, & b) why is there such a difference between the App & flash based tool at speedtest.net? Thanks!
[Xoom General] SS2006:
http://www.facebook.com/motorola?sk=wall&filter=1

http://twitter.com/#!/Motorola

Go there and bomb the wall, and tweet their lights out

They need to release the dam wifi version, or announce it THIS WEEK, at no more then 499$

We all just saw the ipad 2 (march 11, 499$)

Not sure if moto just wants to throw away thier sales

but let them know about it, pressure is good

As the saying is right now, if they dont act, apples gonna make more money on smartcovers then moto is on xooms
[Xoom General] DatterBoy:
I don't know. 550 maybe but not 500.

- Full FLash

- 1280 x 800 screen

- SD Card

- USB Hosting

- 1G RAM

Even if iPad is a better selling more desired product, 550 - 600 sounds right. 500 would just be to compete, but the extra specs and capabilities warrant a 550 - 600 price tag.

Unfortunately, most people don't care about the better specs. But Moto can't just give those away.
[Xoom General] SS2006:
fair enough, id happily dish out 550

but they need to announce the dam thing, and get it on the shelves
[Xoom General] DatterBoy:
Totally agree. They are losing shares and sales as we speak.
[Xoom General] keitht:
I am sure they are aware of what is going on with their competition. They already have a UK WiFi only model about to be released and there were even leaked ads with pre-order info. They also already announced a WiFi only for US around $600 coming. We all want things now. I waited over a year to get a Honeycomb tablet and it was worth the wait. Google should have anticipated this earlier and had this out last year. I think their mistake was spending too much time and resources on ChromeOS which I have zero interest in. But here we are, the beginning of an exciting year of Android tablets and Honeycomb.
[Xoom General] SS2006:
I obviously know they're aware, not sure if I came off that way

What I went is let them know the customers are demanding something or else theyll lose them for being complacent
[Xoom General] SS2006:
The UK announcement is 499 pounds (aka 800 USD)..so thats useless

and ya we heard theres a US one around 600, but NOTHING official or no report from them, just saying, if ur gonna release a tablet ONLY to verizon for 800$..and google wants to get Gingerbread out there, why the hell not make it available to everyone.

Its a TABLET not a PHONE, why tie it with a friggin provider

Just saying iPad 2 is gonna have the edge here if they dont act
[Xoom General] keitht:
I am sure we will have a wifi only version of the Xoom next month. But what we really need is for some of these other companies to get their stuff out as well so their are more choices and competition. It seems like Google decided to give Motorola all the love for the first honeycomb tablet which is why we are not seeing any others release now. This may have been to fine tune the OS before making it more widely available to others, I don't know for sure. But the bottom line is, Honeycomb tablets are not going away and I suspect we will see so many by the end of the year it will be difficult to decide which to buy.
[Xoom General] BBruin66:
Moto CEO said the US wifi version would be $600. He sounds reliable to me...
[Xoom General] gogol:
If they (Google + Manufacturer) want to win the tablet war, they must do drastic movement: Sell them CHEAP! As cheap as possible ...

Don't take too much profit, break even is OK, even lost!

Just take a lot of users whatever the cost is!

Then pump the apps apps and apps as much as possible.

For sure, this will win the tablet war.

About loosing money, if I remember correctly, Microsoft did not make any profit on the earlier Xbox/360. And they are now very competitive.

PRICE IS EVERYTHING for this LEVEL of device. Remember, PRICE is the key for users to buy tablet.

With less money, people can buy iPad 2 which is more or less the same "experience" to use AND has tons of very good quality of apps.

Set aside that SD Card slot (iPad has 64GB model) and OS customization. Those are nice, but for majority they are less important. They dont stare for hours in the home screen!

Come on Google, you can do it.
[Xoom General] SS2006:
Action..not words
[Xoom General] e.mote:
Moto CEO has said that wifi-only Xoom will be around $600. That's pretty reliable, but by no means cast in stone. Another pricing signal is the the UK pre-order peep, which was for £500, or close to $600 US once the 20% VAT is removed.

That said, iPad2 is the undisputed tablet leader, and with the Xoom's dearth of software support (and missing features, like SD slot and Flash), having a price higher than the base iPad price is a death knell, especially with other cheaper Honeycomb alternatives on tap.

Come April, I'd expect the wifi Xoom to be toeing the $500 price point, as will many of the so-called premium vendors (HTC, Samsung, et al). Other vendors like Acer & Dell, who don't have smartphone offerings to protect their pricing, will be cheaper, and with the same specs.
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
Sorry to correct you, but you can't just do a straight conversion in price from GBP to USD and call it a day. There is a VAT etc. in the UK and the prices are inflated. Take about 20%-25% off the price and you'll be more in the ballpark of what the US will pay for the WiFi version. $600USD sounds about right, $200 less than the 3G version. I would not be surprised at all (well, maybe a little) if the WiFi version also coincides with a 3G/4G price drop.

I agree with what you're saying and I don't think you're alone. Motorola will notice (or has noticed already) that they're gonna get slaughtered if they don't have a WiFi version, and dont lower the prices to be AT LEAST competitive, if not undercutting, the competition. And they gotta do it like yesterday.

I want to be positive and say that Motorola know what they're doing, but the way that they launched only the 3G version with no word on the WiFi one is just sad. My theory, which I don't think is any secret, is that Verizon has Motorola by the balls, and is trying to get as much out of the 3G version as possible before the WiFi comes out. They wanna ride the wave and the early adopters and then let the WiFi out. There is no single manufacturing reason why the WiFi model isn't ready right now. Its on their freaking product webpage ffs (along with the GSM variant I might add) lol.
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
I really hope so, for Motorola's sake. That $499 price point is one that gives you way more exposure than anything. Like I said I think they're trying to ride the "first honeycomb tablet" wave until they get shafted by iPad 2 and the other 3.0 tablets coming out, then they'll play ball and maybe get some decent sales numbers.

I've said before that I'm 100% willing to hand Motorola (or Samsung/LG, for that matter) $600 right now for the WiFi version of this type of tablet, but I'm not gonna overpay for the 3G version I'm not gonna use. The $500 point just has to happen for general consumers to put it next to the iPad though.
[Xoom General] SS2006:
Youre right about the price. The price isnt what concerns me. Its just the availability and lack of announcements

I agree with you, Verizon has them by the balls

And thats why you dont give your tablet to a frigin provider

Like The iPad just goes right to bestbuy, brilliance

..idiots @moto
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
The one thing that Apple gets right is they don't late carriers push them around with the iPad. They sell it directly from Apple.com either the WiFi version or 3G with no strings attached and if u wanna activate later you can. No carrier BS. Not to mention that the 3G and WiFi versions go on sale the same exact day lol.

Motorola is getting blown up hard over their pricing and availability of different models/versions. I think they probably would've started selling the WiFi now if it weren't for other pressures/commitments.
[Xoom General] lstrike:
Add to this from what I have read GPS even in the wifi model!
[Xoom General] calin75:
Motorola just lost me. I'm returning my xoom and I'll wait for whatever WiFi options come later down the road. I won't buy Apple. Motorola needs to get their sh@t straight. Too pricey and lack of options will be their demise. Give people what they want.
[Xoom General] B Dizzle:
With the 32GB iPad 2 releasing at $599 Moto has to match or beat that price. You can guarantee they will do that. $550 would be a big win for Moto and the customers.

Even at the lower price and added hardware specs the device still will not even come close to what Apple will see in sales. One thing Apple has done well and continues to do well is advertise. This unfortunately is where Moto is lacking with the Xoom. Superbowl commercial was nice and money well spent. But what have we seen since then? If you stopped 30 random people on the street and asked them what a Motorola Xoom was, maybe 15 of 30 would know. You would be hard pressed to find someone who did not know what an iPad was. Every night when I am watching the tube, I see that damn iPad commercial with the annoying piano in the background. Moto needs to take a risk and pour some funds in to advertisement. They now have a solid piece of hardware to compete with Apple. Let the rest of the world know that and get aggressive with your attack.

I don't think $550-$600 is too much to ask for this fine piece of hardware and if they want to make an attempt to keep up with the competition, Moto needs to get the WiFi only version out fast. Next Friday is coming up quick and still no word from Moto on a US release date. :/
[Xoom General] BBruin66:
In the past week I've seen a lot of xoom commercials, far more than iPad, although I'm sure my brain has tuned them out by now.

That vendetta one is on every hour.
[Xoom General] e.mote:
>With the 32GB iPad 2 releasing at $599 Moto has to match or beat that price. You can guarantee they will do that. $550 would be a big win for Moto and the customers.

Actually, no. The price Moto has to beat is $500, or the cheapest you can get the iPad2 for, for the simple reason that the 16GB model iPad was hands-down the most popular config. It doesn't matter how much memory the Xoom has.

Anyway, it's not just the iPad. Many other Honey tabs that have pretty much the same specs, and likely will be released at the same time as the wifi Xoom, will surely be same or less than the iPad's reference price. And the "average" price will quickly drop come June/July. Example: The MSI WindPad 100A, with the same specs as the Xoom but with IPS screen, was announced at $399 for June.

But Moto was fine for tagging the 3G at $800. Once you (the consumer) have that as the reference price, then anything lower than $800 becomes a "bargain." To wit: If Moto had tagged the 3G at $600 from the start, then would people have worked themselves into a frenzy trying to get in on the $600 "price mistake" as had happened? Honestly, I've never seen so many people so eager to fork out $600 for a tablet and be so happy about it.

Ditto with the above quoted comment. If Moto had priced the wifi model for lower than $600, then you wouldn't think that $550 was a "big win".

A widget is worth whatever you think it's worth. And what you think it's worth can be influenced by the vendor's pricing tactics.
[Xoom General] spoiledfree:
I bet it will be in the next 3 weeks. They might be waiting until the return policy is up for early buyers. Just a thought.
[Xoom General] robbiev80:
How about a release date for Canada? Nothing from Best Buy Canada or Future Shop!!! Seriously, wtf?!
[Xoom General] Crispityyy:
Well, looks like Sam's Club might be selling the wifi ony model at $539 =)

....Sound like a perfect price point to me!

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/03/03/wifi-only-motorola-xoom-headed-to-sams-club-possibly-priced-at-539/
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
Thanks for the link, really interesting, gives me some hope. If they already have billboards and prices/promotional materials out, they're looking to receive supply within the next couple weeks right?

Doesn't Sam's club sell everything a bit under MSRP? I think they sold the 16gb WiFi iPad for $479 or something like that.

I'd go snatch this up ASAP at $539 (or like $559 at other stores).

Also, based on a price ~$539, that's kinda gross that the 3G/4G version is charging a $240 premium. Ouch!! But like I've said before, I think the WiFi model will be launched with a price drop in the 3G version too.
[Xoom General] B Dizzle:
Maybe its just me but seems like Moto is really pushing the commercials tonight. They also brought the price point I asked for on the wifi only model. Is Moto listening to me?

I wish every Xoom came with a Jessica Biel look-a-like!
[EVO 4G General] babyschmoof:
I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.

I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill :-)
[EVO 4G General] SilverStone641:
You got it. i'll pass that along to HTC. i'm SURE they'll listen and jump on it straightaway. :rolleyes:

Seriously though, the ipad is difficult to beat. they did actually make a major upgrade in the new A5 processor with dual core. they also thinned it out a bit, the rest is mediocre like you said.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
HTC already announced it, it's called the HTC Flyer and it doesn't look all that good. Single core running a tablet like sense on top of 2.3.
[EVO 4G General] babyschmoof:
Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?

Just saying.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
[EVO 4G General] Justin.G11:
Um .... Cm _is_ just AOSP...
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
You just defined what Cyanogenmod is in your own post and discredited it at the same time.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.
[EVO 4G General] Justin.G11:
"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.

The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.

If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.

Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I was replying to the poster who said that OEMs should be consulted by CM. I'm just saying that OEMs have to get Android running on the hardware period, not to mention develop/design their overlays, which as much as I hate, are far more encompassing than the features/tweaks CM adds. Bottom line: they got much more to worry about than mostly just cleaning up. Not trying to discredit CM, just suggesting not to downplay the bigger role OEMs have in the process.
[EVO 4G General] babyschmoof:
Thank you for the laugh of the day. VERRY WELL SAID?
[EVO 4G General] babyschmoof:
I've got the answer. The hardware is so similar between the vendors now, so google should set the standard (not the crappy half assed job they did before) and do an X-Prize type contest. Make one kick butt tablet and have the best minds compete. No skins, no bloatware, just a solid device. Sure they burn a lot of bridges with their vendors, but everyone would want it, and Google comes out ahead in the long run. Truly compete against apple with an open platform. The gPhone!
[EVO 4G General] Imprezed:
Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.

Now that's a tablet.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
It fills a niche. I personally have a hard time buying any of the "phone" tablets because if I'm on a computer 99% of the time I either have a IDE/Photoshop/Illustrator open. None of the current tablets will able to do what I need. But Windows 7 is not really fit for tablet - I used to have a Tablet PC running Windows 7 and you might as well just get a decent dual core Atom netbook (which I do have) because it's not worth it.

What I'm waiting for is Windows 8. It'll probably be very touch friendly in desktop mode and is suppose to have a secondary WP7/Metro-like shell which I assume will also be able to run mobile/tablet-like mini apps. Either use it like a iPad/Xoom/whatever or dock it to a keyboard and get real **** done. Best of both worlds and it'll probably work great with next gen Atoms or energy sipping multiple core ARM CPUs.
[EVO 4G General] svinyard:
Can I just say that the guy bagging on CM7 is a douche? Can this be a "douche-bump" post?

That just happened!
[EVO 4G General] babyschmoof:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
CM is not for everyone. Saying cm is the only reason to be on these forums is retarded. Might ad well rename this site cm7-4-life.com.
[EVO 4G General] bigmoogle:
That's great that you're a big fan of CM, but not everyone likes or uses their ROMs. AOSP is not for everyone, that's why I'm glad we have choices.

MIUI 1.2.25 with stock kernel

HW003