yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martonikaj:
Well first off, make sure that the Desire Z you have has the proper frequencies for AT&T.

As far as running the unlimited featurephone data plan, I'm not sure. They might be able to not tell what type of phone you're using, but they will be able to tell that it isn't one of their list of featurephones the plans work for. I think this is the biggest hurdle, they will more than likely find out that you're using a phone that isn't an AT&T featurephone and kick you off of it.

As far as data usage goes, I'm assuming it will throw up a flag when your first month you use 4gb-5gb of data on your "featurephone" that isn't even supposed to have a full browser lol.

If this was that easy to do, don't you think there would be more people getting a free featurephone with a $10 unlimited data plan and buying their phones unsubsidized? lol. Dunno just never heard of anyone doing this before.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jessicax:
I don't get 3G but the phone works fine on the EDGE network. Since it isn't a phone from the US I'm thinking that it might be able to escape detection a lot easier than say, a phone from T-Mobile.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martonikaj:
If it doesn't work on 3G then it has the same bands as a T-mobile G2 (or similar, either way it doesn't work on 850/1900 3G that AT&T uses) and you'd end up with the same result. If you're not even gonna use 3G, then why are you paying for a data plan at all?

The real question is, is there a specific reason why you're using AT&T? If you're just going to be using the phone on EDGE with AT&T, you might as well just pay for a data plan on T-mobile and get 3G/4G... maybe just my personal opinion but I have no idea why someone would choose to pay for a smartphone and use it on the EDGE network. I wanna gouge my eyes out when I'm on EDGE lol.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jessicax:
Right now I'm not paying for a data plan. However, if I did pay for one, I'd only be using it to do things like check my e-mail, use voice dial, or play ad-supported games - nothing that would be crippled by the slower data transfer. Basically stuff that is worth $10/month to me but not $30.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martonikaj:
I see... But what I'm saying is why would you pay for an AT&T plan, are you somehow obligated to stay there? If you're bringing your own phone to T-mobile, their no contract plans are as low as $59.99/mo. Maybe AT&T has good service in your area, I'm not sure. But if you have no reason to stay on AT&T and service is comparable on T-mobile, I doubt you'll be paying more for 3G service on T-mo than you would for only 2G on AT&T.

T-mobile no contract (youre bringing your own phone) = $59.99 for 500min, unlim texts, and "unlimited" data.

AT&T phone plans = $39.99 450minutes, + $20 unlim texts + $10 for "featurephone data" = $69.99 and that doesn't get you 3G.

Not trying to convert, just trying to make sense of your situation.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jessicax:
I am obligated to stay with AT&T for various reasons. :-\
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martonikaj:
Well that would explain a lot. As far as your original plan goes, I'm not sure how it works. They have to identify between their featurephones and smartphones somehow, and that means they may easily be able to identify that you're using a smartphone. Not sure.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jark99:
From my understanding when i was about to try this smartphones have there own data set....and regular unlimited browsing is something else. But i can be wrong. Get back to me about this, very interested to see if this works.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gbarayah:
This does work.

I am using an unbranded/unlocked Desire Z on ATT with the $10/month basic data plan. Years ago, I purchased a 'dumb phone' from them and have had this data plan on my account since then.

I have used this data plan with a Touch Pro, Blackberry Bold and Nokia E71, all without any problems. All of them were ATT branded and they could see the device I was using. Only thing that didn't work was the Blackberry branded data apps.

With a phone that is not from ATT they cannot tell what device you are using. I've had the DZ since November and haven't heard anything from there. My data usage each month has ranged from 400-700 MB. Not sure what the cap is, but I don't tether or anything and use wifi when I'm at home as well.

This of course is not in line with their 'smartphone policy' so don't walk into a store and expect them to do this for you. You'll have to do it online... Not sure how closely they watch new additions on the basic plans but I would give it a shot and see if they let you keep going... My guess is that unless you're sucking up data at 2-3GB a month, it won't be a problem...

Let me know how it goes for you!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] entropism:
I have an Australian HTC Desire as my personal line, and I pay the $10 data. AT&T employee line plans suck pretty bad... :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thenotoriouspie:
Iirc you need data for mms
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MLonon:
You are good to go.

I used a G2 on AT&T for a few months before switching to T-Mobile. I do not remember how much data I used but I know that AT&T had no clue what I was doing/using. I was on the $15 unlimited messaging data plan though, not sure about the $10 one. As long as the phone is not branded or specifically made for AT&T bands (like the AT&T N1) they have no clue what you have, that is the main reason I only use GSM networks.

Protip: You can suspend your line if you are on a family plan and switch to T-mobile which is what I am currently doing until my wife's iPhone contract runs out. They will still charge you $10/month though. $25 for 2GB is WAY overpriced.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jessicax:
For those of you who were interested in hearing if this worked: I've been on the data plan for about two weeks and have used about 200mb thus far. So far, so good. The EDGE network speeds can be a little slow but it is better than nothing.

I'm curious if I'll be detected now that AT&T has acquired T-Mobile, since the G2 is in T-Mobile's lineup, which is based on the HTC Vision just like the Desire Z that I am using.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] babyfacedkayos:
my question is...

Why cant you use 3g if you have a DZ from overseas? the G2 is the phone with the weird 3g bands. the overseas phone should work like a charm on att.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jessicax:
Unfortunately it does not have the 3G bands that ATT uses.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ionic7:
Lol@ 30/month for data I'm at 15 or 20 for unlimited data and texts with tmobile
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lord Bodak:
Lots of people do this. I have a Nokia E71 currently on this plan (and a Desire Z on the way). My only concern is with AT&T's new crackdown on tethering.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caribbean_spur:
Can someone tell me if ATT can make the difference between the type of data transfer someone uses (like web browsing vs Market android download or google syncing)?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shortlived:
Yes they can catch you. Yes they can tell the differance between mms and web browsing....yes they can see every site and bit of information, every call made, every text sent, every minute of every day..... the questions is do they care? The simple answer is no. I have used my own phones on att for 8+ years. I not even sure if its agaisnt any policy they have anyway? Anyway if they ever did "catch" you the worst they would do is say stop that, pay more, or cancel your account. Then maybe you will be free to join tmo lol.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caribbean_spur:
well, I guess I was just wondering if you have the $15 data plan if they would know what phone you are using just by looking at your data transfer (since they cannot know the phone by IMEI)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
Based on the experiences by multiple users here, and on the AT&T forums, they have been able to get away with using a smartphone on the $15 plan (as long as AT&T can't read the IMEI). Can they technically tell the difference by looking at the data packets, I don't know. But they don't seem to be doing that at all. And the worst they will probably do is add the smartphone data plan.

The exception is tethering. AT&T has been turning a blind eye to tethering until recently, and now they have started cracking down, at least on the iPhone, and Android users may be next. But they have been sending out a warning by SMS to stop tethering before adding a tethering plan.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caribbean_spur:
Cool! Sounds great!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chaunspecial:
So if I read this thread correctly, I would have to get a "non-smartphone", then get the unlimited data plan ($10), then get an UNBRANDED phone that's not from AT&T, and just swap sim cards? I'm currently with AT&T with a Blackberry Bold 9000. I don't have a data plan with it because I bought it refurbished from the AT&T site, and it wasn't a requirement for me to purchase a data plan with it 2 years ago. However, the phone is slowly dying, and I want to stay with a Blackberry phone. Are there any unbranded Blackberry phones where AT&T cannot trace the IMEI? I would assume that if there were, I'd have to get it overseas (I'm in the US). I will get a new phone (probably a Blackberry 9900 or Torch 2 though) AND a data plan no matter what, but I'm trying to avoid the $15/$25 data plan they offer now. I don't thin I can live with the 200mb cap on the $15 data plan because I will be using it during my rotations for school (among other things). But I was wondering if there is a list of phones that are able to do this?

Thank you for your help.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gbarayah:
Not sure if you would be able to get an unbranded Blackberry, but I would check with BELL (canadian provider) they share the same 3G bands as AT&T.

One thing to know is that if you want to be able to use Blackberry Push Services (BB Mail, BB Messenger, Facebook Notifications, etc) you MUST have a Blackberry Data plan. I used a Bold 9000 on ATT with the media net plan, and while the data works just fine, none of the BB services worked. I used the Gmail app for email and used my web browser to access FB via the mobile site.

BELL in Canada has a pretty good selection of phones. I read online that they will also be getting the Droid 3 that was just released on Verizon a few weeks ago. The Desire Z that I have is a Bell version that is unbranded and unlocked. I've used it on ATT since November and it works without a hitch.

Good luck, hope that helped.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spastic909:
Excuse me but what in the hell does crapberry have to do with this or android? Rims days are numbered considering they are laying people off now and market shares have dropped like crazy...

Back on the topic of this thread...as long as you didn't purchase the phone through att they shouldn't have a problem..if the phone only gets edge over their network what's the point of getting any data plan as you would be surfing slower than dial up?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gbarayah:
There are options to purchase phones from outside of AT&T that ARE compatible with their 3G network. Bell in Canada uses the same 3G bands as AT&T so any of their phones can be unlocked and used on ATT in the US without needing a smartphone data plan (use the MediaNet plans instead)

I pay $10/month for unlimited data via MediaNet with my Desire Z rather than $30 if I had bought a subsidized phone from ATT. Plus, I am not locked into a 2 year contract.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chaunspecial:
Thanks for your responses guys....very helpful.

How do you guys like the Desire Z? I also looked into a different phone, but I don't think I can get away from the physical keyboard.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gbarayah:
I was in the same boat as you when purchasing a phone. I knew that I wanted an Android device and that I needed to have a hard keyboard...

I purchased the DZ last November and it is a great device. I love it. The specs on it aren't top of the line compared to the devices that are being launched currently, but it does everything that I need it to. Also, it has AMAZING developer support, which if you like to flash custom ROMs and modify your phone is a great asset.

Also, being that its an 'older' phone now, you can probably save some $$$ and get it at a good price online.

Another option to consider would be the Motorola Droid 3. There are rumors that it will soon be released on Bell in Canada, which has the same bands as ATT, allowing you to use their 3G network. You can check it out at Verizon. Its dual-core and has a higher resolution screen.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chaunspecial:
You've got me interested in the Droid 3 now. I was looking at some specs, and it only has 512mb ram. Isn't that a tad low? I'm sure I wouldn't need much more than that for what I'll be using it for (phone, a few apps, and maybe light games), but if I think I'd like a little more just for the piece of mind.

Also, where would I be able to get my hands on one of these in California? And my guess is that it would have to be unlocked/unbranded? (Sorry, I'm new to this).
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gbarayah:
Well right now, the Canadian/Bell version has not been released yet so you'll need some patience. The article I read online said it would be available sometime this summer.

When it does become available you should be able to find it online. I purchased my Desire Z on Ebay. I had to bid on a few before I finally won one but it saved me some money. Another website I have heard of people using is Negri Electronics.

While it doesn't necessarily need to be unbranded, it WILL need to be unlocked.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freakshow11582:
is there any fonts that work that on EB13 based roms like Hero light font?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A_Flying_Fox:
Dang...I was searching he forums, I think the evo themes and apps section and I found a thread about fonts and there was over 300 fonts or someting.

I downloaded an flashed from there and it worked te way it was supposed to

I recommend searchin the evo
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shiftr182:
Any of the fonts should work with eb13. A font is a font.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonysohn:
Yep, as the person above said, fonts are just fonts.

If you want to manually change your fonts, name whichever TTF fonts you want to use as DroidSans.ttf and DroidSans-Bold.ttf and copy (using either adb push or Root Explorer) to /system/fonts on your phone. Reboot, and that should do the trick.

If you're looking for flashable font packages, look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=801160
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freakshow11582:
i have the hero light font but in cwm3 it wont flash them sorry i should of been more specific :rolleyes:

and thx guys
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bryanfritz1:
There is also an app from the market for free, called "custom font switcher" . I have used it on dk28(froyo) and works great, there are 109 fonts that I see.

sent from "The Other Woman"
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Coriolis3ffect:
This put me into a boot loop when I changed the font.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freakshow11582:
worked on mine :o
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] usagi111:
It worked for me, too.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blankrubber:
+1.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JungleJiujitsu:
This works too on EB13, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=821814 ... but it only contains 22, compared to the hundred of the others listed on this thread
[Atrix 4G General] Notacop:
Hello, I have been playing with my new Atrix for the past day or two. Rooted it earlier today (on principle).

Now when I connect to my windows 7 pc, phone set to debug. I do not get the option to mount storage. This means I do not have access to internal SD card, and can't direct load files to the media folder (unless I am too much of a noob to know how).

Second issue...Market works perfect. Appbrain shows "no results found" 90% of the time. Any type of sorting as well as certain categories return "no results"

Can someone help me out?
[EVO 4G Accessories] OneStepAhead:
This was just posted on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110656781907

According to their website, its made of rubberized TPU. Looks promising! I'm in for one :D

more info at http://moretalktime.com/products-page/htc-evo/

edit: After purchasing this I would hold out for revision 2 (coming around May 1st) as the first one has a few design flaws. The front camera is blocked and the cut-outs for the buttons are not

large enough so it makes it impossible to actually press them. I'll post back when rev2 arrives.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Bigjim1488:
For 22 bucks I will have to let a few other people try it first. I sunk too much money into trying out cases

Sent from my Evo while i should be working
[EVO 4G Accessories] OneStepAhead:
I believe they are $16 on ebay, $17.95 on the website.
[EVO 4G Accessories] OneStepAhead:
no interest in this, im shocked. ill post a review when it arrives.
[EVO 4G Accessories] montecristo1:
The seller on ebay is shipping out orders on March 9- shipping out from TX....

"CASES SHIP March 9, so bid accordingly and do NOT ding me for slow shipping. Thanks." And the case $16 and SH $4= $20-Price is too steep for a cover.

But on his website- he will ship out on March 1st and sells the cover for $17 no charge SH= $17

I will wait when, eventually, someone else starts selling it on ebay for $5....
[EVO 4G Accessories] Necrosan:
Way too expensive for a single piece of plastic/rubber.
[EVO 4G Accessories] OneStepAhead:
This guy had a custom mold made and is the exclusive seller, so i don't think you'll see them for $5 ever. I talked to him Thursday and he was expecting them to arrive soon via fedex.
[EVO 4G Accessories] shoobshoober:
just bought it since paypal has a 10$ off thing for billmelater and the purchase comes with an additional 15 dollars in ebay bucks as well.

i'll post once I get it as well. cool find!
[EVO 4G Accessories] OneStepAhead:
mine should be here as soon as today... video review to follow.
[EVO 4G Accessories] shoobshoober:
Just picked it up in the mail.

very snug good fit doesn't hinder the kickstand at all. I like how theres a small part that covers the edge of the earpiece.

however the buttons are extremely hard to press with the case. it's sort of a pain to turn on adjust volume etc. i don't really like how the material feels. there isnt a problem with it. but the outside makes the phone feel cheaper overall
[EVO 4G Accessories] OneStepAhead:
I actually LOVE the way the material feels. Unfortunately there were some design flaws this go around that are being fixed. He didn't make the holes large enough for the power button or volume rocker. you can't get your finger in there, although if you have nails you could probably press it. I took an xacto blade to mine to widen the holes. Also, the front camera is covered by the case. To top it off the hole for the charger port is also not designed correctly, some cables will not fit. Its going to be about 3-4 weeks until revision 2 is released. I ordered the lazzo? silicone extended case now as well and will report back how that is.
[EVO 4G Accessories] shoobshoober:
yeah kind of regret this purchase... but i guess i have a case now
[EVO 4G Accessories] iamfoesho:
How was the other silicone case compared to this one? Thanks.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ant76:
This one fits my 3500mah perfect

Check out this item I found on eBay:

Laza Extended Battery Silicone Case SPRINT HTC EVO 4G

Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/Laza-Extended-B...537048536QQcategoryZ42428QQvarZQQcmdZViewItem
[EVO 4G Accessories] t91180:
Which 3500 do you have if you don't mind me asking? I have the seidio and have been hoping this would work.

Teresa

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Evo 4g / unrevoked 3.32

ClockworkMod

CM 7.0 final

Tiamat 3.3.7, non SBC kernel

Rover blue theme

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[EVO 4G Accessories] ant76:
Its not Seidio mine is a 20$ special it works ok after the first 20% drains but if it looks like the one in the pic it should work fine
[EVO 4G Accessories] t91180:
thanks!

Teresa

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Evo 4g / unrevoked 3.32

ClockworkMod

CM 7.0 final

Tiamat 3.3.7, non SBC kernel

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[EVO 4G Accessories] OneStepAhead:
I did not like the silicone one at all, but I'm not a fan of silicone cases. If you like the material the lazzo is fine. I just find it sticks to everything in sight and fits the phone to loosely. That said I cant recommend the TPU case until the issues with the buttons and camera are resolved, which hopefully will be soon. Apparently the other models he made cases for don't have this problem.
[EVO 4G Accessories] dvtmg704:
Ant76 what kernel are u using because I have the same battery and I want more juice out of it
[EVO 4G Accessories] RedXXII:
This case is actually very nice. Have a seidio 3500 in my phone. As previously stated,the cutouts need to be widened. However the seller is great. Also got the back door they sell,but it came warped and he sent me another one free of charge. Will post back on how it actually fits.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ant76:
Its the ava launch rom z3 stock kernel this battery is ok I want a seidio I've used them b4 and always been great but for,20$ tis one is ok I suggest power max app and pro version
[EVO 4G Accessories] kevinjmoore:
The evo cases for extended batteries by moretalktime have been revised and the cutouts and functionality are all great now.
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
Ok Thanks to Phidelt82 for walking me through Each Step ;)

and thanks to Sbrissen for getting us the NoClock and AmPm mod!!!!!!

Here's my first MOD!!

This is the 32sec Extended Key Back Light for your bottom buttons!!!

It keeps the keys lit up for 32 secs after you touch them..

Flash this via CWM...

As always Do a nandroid for YOUR SAFETY!! Flash at your OWN RISK!!!

The first link is 32secESKBL Only (you will have a clock with AM/PM)

download HERE!!! Thanks to Phidelt82 for hosting..

This is a combination of sbrissen's NoClock and My 32secESKBL

download HERE!!! Thanks to Phidelt82 for hosting files...
[Samsung Mesmerize] sipthis:
Awesome....nice work, hope to see many many more here soon...

Hehe....I have a few up my sleeve :-)

Sent from my SCH-I500
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
Do you have a showcase?

The more the merrier!!!
[Samsung Mesmerize] sipthis:
No showcase have us cellular mesmerize...but I'm sure the things I'm working on wont effect the matter of showcase fascinate or mesmerize...I'm more into getting the best out of my phone...kernels, jit, battery life, overall performance basically and seeming it seems the showcase,mesmerize, and fascinate is just another moment and acclaim lol same hardware identical just different carriers...just had to port it all over

Sent from my SCH-I500

Edit** over the next few days I'm gonna need about 5 people to beta test something I have been working on... I'm loving my phone more and more....no voodoo and guess what no lag what so ever...few lockups but that's my newest bug I think I have fixed but not sure yet only time will tell....all I need from beta testers is any issues they run into...baked is draft 1 seeming he has pulled me up to speed with the mesmerize over on sdx like I mentioned recently upgraded from acclaim...your draft 2...phidelt is 3
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
cool, well welcome aboard...

Phidelt82, is working on some things right now for the mesmerize... He's working on the 5 unlock screens/Power options... maybe you could give him a hand...

we're on http://webchat.freenode.net/ #samsung-mesmerize channel right now if you want to come in...