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[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
It's working fine for me too :) A little less remarkable than I was hoping for but it's still cool.
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
Well...its a recession, so I'll let ya keep it. ;)

Hmm...pm me for details as how I did.
[EVO 4G General] sultan.of.swing:
Long press on a shortcut to turn it into a widget ;)
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
Lawlz I noticed. Still playing around with it. :)
[EVO 4G General] sultan.of.swing:
I personally dig it, I notice no lag at all on mine.
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
Yeah, there is no lag whatsoever, even on the 3D wheel thingamajig. That part is pretty cool but just seems like a novelty to me. The potential for customization is rather limited here... I still need to play around with it but personally I can't see this replacing LauncherPro.
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
I'm very much on the same sentiment. Still toying with it, but it'd be a break every now and then, and yes, it is very smooth.
[EVO 4G General] sultan.of.swing:
Its just something different. Gotta have variety right?

Show it to fellow iPhone users!
[EVO 4G General] znewman99:
Dude iPhone users will parish with this lol! 1
[EVO 4G General] jokester902:
Anyone getting a battery drain?
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
I am getting a little bit of a drain myself.
[EVO 4G General] sultan.of.swing:
Have not fully charged but phone is a little warmer than usual.
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
I'm running perfectly cold [temperature wise].
[EVO 4G General] kwan:
What build number are you guys running?

I'm running 4365 standard edition
[EVO 4G General] Just_s:
Ahh, but coupled with this explanation, I find your previous comment excruciatingly hilarious as I reside in the same neighborhood. Hmm, a new $500 phone or two extra school loan payments [he types from his 500 dollar phone]? In this case, the $15 doesn't quite do it for me on the cost to benefit scale, so I guess I'll be sticking with my current setup (which isn't too shabby in and of itself.) :)
[EVO 4G General] davilu:
Loved the beta and $15 seems to be high, but I paid $30 for the windows version awhile back and Android's is way better!
[EVO 4G General] sdavis2702:
I'm digging it but after about 20 minutes there was nothing left to see... or do for that matter. It's definitely a nice showoff piece, though. Before this, I didn't even use a different launcher than what my ROM has to offer. So this was a pretty cool change to things. Not sure how long it's going to last for me. I paid the $15 without hesitation. I'm sure I'll find a $20 in my pocket tomorrow.
[EVO 4G General] 22350:
what i am curious about is if people are dumping this on top of ROM'S they have loaded.

If so, how are they playing together. What rom have you used with SPB?

p
[EVO 4G General] LarryBoyG:
I paid for this and played around with it. I was thoroughly unimpressed. It was kind of laggy. It has nice UI and has a lot of potential. Luckily I got the refund in time.
[EVO 4G General] bignibb:
I have it loaded over the latest Plutonium and it plays well, I like the the ui, and the smoothness of the rom makes it more enjoyable.
[EVO 4G General] mnsportsguy1978:
All you guys paid 15 bucks for a damn launcher?
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
I ran it for three days and will now get all forthcoming updates. I've wasted way more than $15 on far less in the past..

I really do like it. It's not as functional as other launchers but it looks SO COOL :D

Also, they claim it doesn't hurt battery performance.. not true. It cut my battery life in half, that's why I stopped using it.
[EVO 4G General] qubanaso:
Sickness

idk about you guys but to me this thing at the top of my list its sexy im running it on salvage mod and its smooth im loving the detailed transparent widgets their compact yet easy to get to i give it a 10+ :D
[EVO 4G General] bignibb:
Not sure how this launcher cut you battery in half unless you just kept spinning the carousel like wheel of fortune or the price is right. From my understanding it only uses battery when you are using it. If im in an app then the launcher isnt being use so its not pulling battery, if the screen is off its not being used, if you just like the launcher then hey, its kind of like a live wall paper.
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
^lmao.. wheel of fortune.

I had weather updates set to 24hrs but for some reason it turned my gps on and pulled some data VERY often.

Because of some of the limitations I didn't look into it too much but sure enough as soon as I froze spb and went back to lpp my battery lasts all day again :confused:
[EVO 4G General] 22350:
So it looks like picking a good rom, like warm 2.2, removing sense, and adding this might be a good combo
[EVO 4G General] nebenezer:
Not hating, just more info..

I defrosted SPB tonight to check it out after the update. Went from 16% to 10% in literally five minutes. Froze it at ten and after 20 minutes I'm at 8%, and I've been using the phone the whole time..
[EVO 4G General] billbowers:
After seeing your screen shots, i had to get it just to piss off my apple loving friends... it worked! Decided to keep it. Haven't had any significant battery drain to speak of... just a little laggy when it first starts up.
[EVO 4G General] wd20293:
wheel of fortune ha ha

Actually had a couple shots the other night, then me and the wife spun it and placed bets what screen it would stop at. Yea I guess we need a life. LOL
[EVO 4G General] bignibb:
Sometimes I forget some people do not have extended batteries. I have the seidio platinum 3500 in mine and before that had the sprint 2600. I also am running a sbc kernel so with normal use I get 2 plus days.
[EVO 4G General] alomar123:
I tend to get better battery life with this launcher over sense.
[EVO 4G General] maddness505:
just added spb 3d pretty kool very quick and that carousel is dope

running cm7nightly #37 savagezen kernel 1.1 mixer theme
[EVO 4G General] aburgthing:
Use it, like it, no difference in battery life whatsoever for me. All phones are set up different I guess but I find it does not drain battery any less or any more than any other launcher.
[EVO 4G General] aburgthing:
Now that's funny LMAO!!!!
[EVO 4G General] WhiteiceDMSTech:
I am looking and not seeing any, but is there a free or trial version someplace to give this a go before I decide to pay $15 for it?

$15 is not much I know, but 15 minutes to try it out and return it for my money back on Android Market is not a lot of time to give it a go before I could make a decision.

Thank you,

Whiteice
[EVO 4G General] Cjunior:
I just don't like the fact that I can't use the live wallpapers
[EVO 4G General] Just_s:
Not nearly as robust looking as SPB, but not fifteen f-ing bucks either, is Regina 3D. I just started toying with it and it is pretty cool. It's a first generation app so I imagine these guys will roll out some nice enhancements in the coming months. Right now it is FREE, don't know if that is the long term plan.

Not intending to hijack the thread, just offering up an alternative for those with sticker shock. FTR, I use SPB.

More screens, video and a write up at AddictiveTips
[EVO 4G General] ECrispy:
A few questions for those running it -

1. can you customize the apps launched by the widgets? i.e. which sms, gallery, browser app to use

2. I'm assuming this is not themable at all?

SPB is a company used to charging $30 for their shells on WinMo so Ii'm not surprised at the price, they probably wanted to charge more! But its just not right on modern smartphones (esp Android) where apps are far cheaper and the philosophy is different.
[EVO 4G General] DjKurt:
Wow... Drool
[EVO 4G General] Just_s:
I don't know that you can do either of those things natively, but I have pretty much everything customized running SPB on MIUI with FolderOrganizer and Desktp VisualizeR. When I say everything, I have created several widgets for launching FolderOrganizer folders and have set custom icons for various apps.

As far as the SPB widgets, some are really more like desktop folders which can be resized and hold apps of your choice.

The actual Widgets like weather, calendar, messenger, gallery and clock can be skinned, but I haven't seen anyway to use those to launch other apps. These pretty much launch their native counterpart with no setting to use a different app. Not a huge issue as each of the SPB native widgets do everything that you would need as far as I can tell, but mildly annoying if you for example use Google Voice instead of native SMS for messaging. That's where the MIUI or Sense widgets would come in. Other widgest are locked in to proprietary partners (i.e. the Flickr widget).

Overall I find it a very interesting interface and fairly helpful, but after trying the Regina app above, I am feeling like $15 was too much for this current version. That said, I still like this better than any other launcher and I have used all of the main ones.
[EVO 4G General] ECrispy:
Thank you. For me if I can't have the messaging icon launch Go SMS or Handcent instead of the Sprint app, or my prefered dialer for contacts etc, that would be a dealbreaker. It would make the included widgets almost useless.

I looked into SPB a little more, and they seem to be running native code instead of java, which would explain the speed. Java is a terrible resource hog which is why Android on a monster phone like Evo is still not as smooth as an iPhone 3gs. Sorry for the rant.

For me a launcher must have mail/phone/sms icons with unread counts. Lets see if Regina does that.
[EVO 4G General] dwoods82:
or if you can just install SPB Shell 3D which has an app drawer in the lower bar & IMHO is better than the SPB Mobile Shell 5.0 beta release. There's a video/tutorial of SPB Shell 3D on youtube showcasing this & other tweaks, check it out.
[EVO 4G General] Tilde88:
hehe whats a license check?
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
Well yes, as Mobile Shell 3D is the final product. :p
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
A license check is the app checking to see that there is a file that says you purchased the app.
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
I'm running 5.0 beta standard. I think it's the 3rd pic in the ones I uploaded.
[EVO 4G General] kwan:
Reason I ask about the build number is that on one of the videos I've seen, it shows Twitter integrated as a widget. I thought there might be a newer version out there.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
How do you get this? I applied for beta twice but nothing :(

Sent from my spaceship!
[EVO 4G General] kidram:
I like the features but just don't cut to be launcher pro

Sent from cm7 jealous!!!!!!Mines COOLER
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
That's what _MetalHead_ and I were discussing. Its aesthetically pleasing, but lacks the functionality of launcher pro. But then again, its only a beta, so there is only room tom improve it, hopefully.
[EVO 4G General] kidram:
I would love to see an app drawer

Sent from cm7 jealous!!!!!!Mines COOLER
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
If an app drawer were included, I'd be just about sold. It's semi convenient, cuz you can drag and drop from the recycling bing, or the holding bar, but the drawer itself is nice.
[EVO 4G General] kidram:
Can't beat launcher pro but its frieken smooth

Sent from cm7 jealous!!!!!!Mines COOLER
[EVO 4G General] sultan.of.swing:
I've been playing with it most of the whole day today.

When you long press a shortcut you can make it a widget, if you keep pressing on the green arrow it will scroll through the different Widgets for that shortcut.

Also while in this "editing" mode you can drag shortcuts to the bottom bar. This allows you to swipe to a different screen, you can then move those shortcuts out of the bottom bar and back onto the screen.
[EVO 4G General] Techronico:
I tried to run this after installing but it asks to activate and says it is not compatible with this device.

Evo hw0002

Cm7
[EVO 4G General] kidram:
Redo it but next time turn off the internet it should work

Sent from cm7 jealous!!!!!!Mines COOLER
[EVO 4G General] bacidath:
played around with it a bit tonight... fun for a min... has some flair but not for me...
[EVO 4G General] JasonK75:
Watched some videos on it eighty now. Not bad, some pretty cool animations and 3D images.

Swyped from my EVO (MIUI) using XDA App
[EVO 4G General] litts:
Hi Do you wanna share how you got it to work .. am struggling
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
Very true. But on some the the apps, to make the widgets, handcent for example, if you expand it, it makes the icon, and a music display, but still takes you into the texting hub; I personally found that odd.
[EVO 4G General] mic.mayorga:
sure its pretty and smooth. but i didnt find it very practical. i like simple side to side swiping and i know it has that too but idk it just didnt appeal to me at all
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
I feel ya, because the beta is lacking practically. Aesthetically pleasing, but lacks the functionality that we're used from used ADW [EX] or Launcher Pro. I personally think if an ap drawer can be incorporated and maybe some other tweaks, it'd be good to go.
[EVO 4G General] SONIC589:
Search the android market for "organised apps free" its an app drawer.
[EVO 4G General] 22350:
So this is something that is applied over the stock evo interface?

Not clear as to what this is.

Is it a theme? Is it a Rom?

do you have to use adw or LP? Doesn't appear so.

Some people were saying that you had to apply this over MIUI.

Does it bonk 4G?

Clarification

oh yea, where do you get it?
[EVO 4G General] iahk:
It's another launcher, similar to launcherpro or adw launcher.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts40L50LMpo
[EVO 4G General] 22350:
So you don't use it to install third party stuff. It is a launcher with all the stuff built in?
[EVO 4G General] cmart4:
i have the beta, and i like it... nice effects.

i used it in the winmo days, its a nice launcher, but will prob cost like $30 or so which with adw ex available for a 1/10th of the price, is not worth it
[EVO 4G General] 22350:
You know, I hate fussing around with my phone so much, if there was a solution, which I could just buy and run, without bull****, I wouldn't mind paying 30.

Just not in the mood to get a launcher, where I have to hunt around and configure it.
[EVO 4G General] scsapril69:
How does one get this to work on the EVO? I keep getting, my device doesn't support.
[EVO 4G General] 22350:
One thing that I am curious about is if this is applied over the stock UI?

Some of the guys on the MIUI forum are showing this put over MIUI?

I am really confused as to what this is. they talk about it being an AOSP rom, but it is only 8meg.

If MIUI is AOSP and this can go over that, is that why some people are having trouble applying this over stock?

If this needs to go over AOSP, and you used CM7 with wimax, would wimax work with this?

can someone clear this up?
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
It is a launcher.
[EVO 4G General] sultan.of.swing:
Right now I am at 9hrs and 35 minutes unplugged and still at 77% battery left. It does not really seem to using any more battery than normal for me.
[EVO 4G General] 22350:
OK, so here is the big question:

If you put this Launcher over a ROM, how much of that ROM is left over?

What I mean is: If you drop this over MIUI, Sense, CM7. Will the phone operate differently?

Will the underlying system change the way SPB presents the system to you, or is the whole system operate within the confines of SPB and exactly the same, no matter what you put it over?
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
Dude. It's just a launcher.
[EVO 4G General] 22350:
OK, I am sure I am just ignorant to what that means, so maybe you can just suffer with me and try to help me understand.

If I load MIUI on my phone, it completely changes the way the phone operates. I don't have an app. drawer anymore. It handles launching things differently.

If I load SPB, it appears to so some of the same things, albeit as a launcher.

It appears to kill the app drawer and launch things in a different way.

So great, it is a launcher. Does it operate differently depending what rom you put it over?

As an example, will it work differently over MIUI vs. Sense?
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
The reason why you have no app drawer with MIUI is only because the default MIUI launcher has no app drawer. I use MIUI with LauncherPro and I do have an app drawer. The fact that SPB is just a launcher means that no matter what ROM you run it on, it will have the exact same characteristics. All it changes is the UI for the home screens.
[EVO 4G General] 22350:
OK, so if I use this launcher on a stock EVO, I will get the same UI as over any other rom.

But, because I am using it with a stock ROM, with an app drawer, I will see that app drawer in the screens of the SPB UI? Or will that app drawer be eliminated because of the SPB launcher?
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
Think of the ROM like the OS and the launcher is the UI on top of that OS. The app drawer is specific to the launcher and not the ROM so if the launcher you are using has no app drawer, you won't have one. So regardless of the ROM that you throw this on top of, there will be no app drawer.
[EVO 4G General] 22350:
OK, now I am getting clear.

So a lot of people are running this over MIUI, but the SPB ui is going to supersede that with it's own functionality.

So, given that there is no 4g in MIUI, there is really no advantage to using it as an underpinning? (maybe battery)

I wonder if there is anyone on here using this with a stock ROM? What is the performance difference?

Maybe there is a stripped down 4g rom, that this can be dropped over???

Thanks for your patience.
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
It's not going to supersede anything, the core functionality of MIUI is left intact regardless of the launcher that gets installed. All SPB does is make it look different. That's it.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
A launcher is the app that handles the homescreen + app drawer (if it has one). That's it, nothing more.
[EVO 4G General] 22350:
The interface is my main concern. I know android has lot's of functionality. Just want a different way to get to it.

@metalhead

When You say core functionality, what are you talking about. Just the way it processes or optimization? Or, are you talking about folder functions and things like that? That's where I am a little grey. It seems MIUI has icon functionality (moving things around and deleting), but so does SPB. Where does one start and the other stop?
[EVO 4G General] Just_s:
I think you almost have the gist of it. Adding a launcher (ADWex, LauncherPro, Go Launcher, Tag Home, SPB, et.c) does nothing to affect the functionality of the ROM (whatever ROM) it is running on, but rather affects the manner in which you access that functionality. For example, if you are running SPB, it may look very different and you will have all sorts of new icons/toggles/widgets, but when you pull down the notification bar, it will be your base ROM (whatever that ROM may be) and you will only have access to what that ROM is capable of. If you didn't have 4G/WiFi/BT/whatever working before, a launcher will not give you that function now.

From the sounds of feedback, this does little to nothing in terms of slowing things down, so really it will not matter which ROM you run with it. Pick the ROM you prefer for whatever it is you want (battery life, 4G, speed, power, etc.) and then use this launcher with it. There really isn't much else to consider. I switch between two launchers on my MIUI EVO daily. In theory, you could switch between ten launchers if you wanted to. Beauty of Android.
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
Just_s nailed it.
[EVO 4G General] bballer71418:
How do you change your default home screen?
[EVO 4G General] sultan.of.swing:
At the homescreen press menu,select manage panels.

You can then long press on a screen at the top and change its location.
[EVO 4G General] bballer71418:
Ive changed once by accidnet but i still xant get it back...ive done what u said but it wnt change
[EVO 4G General] Just_s:
Settings>Manage Applications>Defaults>launchers>clear or select
[EVO 4G General] Jfree3000:
Installed it and its pretty neat, my question to you guys is did you make folders for you apps or you just left them the way they are?
[EVO 4G General] sultan.of.swing:
I personally left it the way it was, already running miui so it was already layed out that way.
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
This is a type of launcher. You can switch back to adw or lp. This in no way will affect your 4G.
[EVO 4G General] 22350:
I think i understand. I guess what confused me is that if you watch the demo here:

SPB Mobile demo

A lot of the MIUI functionality seems to be duplicated. ie: no app drawer, folders, and moving things around.

My question is: What does MIUI bring to the table at that point?
[EVO 4G General] Just_s:
Depends on your perspective, but for me, speed, stability, massive amounts of control, tons of built-in functionality not found in many ROMs (battery stats, tracking, native hotspot, etc.) awesome battery...

But of course, everyone has different needs. There are plenty of people who don't like MIUI or prefer other ROMs. I believe MIUI is the best combination of the features I desire so that is what I am running with this, but I also just tested it on Calkulin's EViO2 1.8 and it was awesome! Blazing fast and super clean looking. So again, the decision of which ROM is separate from the decision of whether or not to run SPB. One does not seem to affect the other, so if you like SPB, go find the ROM you like. To your point, if you were only looking at MIUI for the aesthetics and you are going to run SPB, then you won't really see the aesthetics of MIUI any longer (other than menus, notification bar, etc.) So flash the ROM that brings you the function you really want.
[EVO 4G General] r0cky0790:
Do you mind sharing or even throwing it in the dropbox for the ones who are lost> [ME!]

Brought to you by the official AOSP "ROM HOPPER™" MIUI-CM7 -r0cky.Da.3v0.SU.-
[EVO 4G General] cordell12:
I am looking to move some of the icons around. When I long press it tries to m,ake widgets of them rather than move them to another page. Any ideas?

edit...I can seem to move them now, gonna take a long time but it can be done, any short cut/faster way then a long press and scroll left or right?

Thanks

edit #2... just dump the icons down into what is the dock on launcher pro. then add what you want back into the page you want. It seems though we must use the icons that are in SPB shell, not choose our own like our OG launchers :(
[EVO 4G General] davilu:
Thank you very much, had it on my last two wm phones n liked it.
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
Well you're all correct. And its still a beta, so hopefully they add the ability in the final version.
[EVO 4G General] Just_s:
I haven't played with it enough yet to know if there is an even better way (I suspect there is), but you can move four at a time rather quickly by dragging them down to the bottom tray (gray area) scrolling to the panel you want and dragging them up to that panel. Faster than trying to drag across multiple panels anyway.
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
Just to clarify, you can put more than 4 apps down there. If you put more, you just scroll through them.
[EVO 4G General] Just_s:
Just noticed that, thanks. This thing is a lot of fun. Serious time waster!
[EVO 4G General] cordell12:
I had my home set to be the middle screen, not sure what happened because now my "home" is a few screen on the left of the middle, and home was renamed communication, lol.

Its pretty cool, not sure if I will keep it though. Have to play with it a bit more. I definitely want home to be center screen
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
I personally switched back to launcher pro. it is cool, but as of right now, not enough functionality for me. You can try taking it "out of the circle" then putting it back in where you wanted it. That worked for me, because it still changed on occasion.