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[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] givver:
I just found another thread that says if you have the Finger Print scanner enabled with the Pattern Unlock then the Finger Print scanner won't work on the WL screen. But if you have the Finger Printer scanner setup to use a pin as backup then WL will work perfectly with the finger print scan. I have tried this and it does work for me. With a FP + pin works, FP + Pattern does not work.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1094766&highlight=widgetlocker&page=2
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] bleuiko:
I have a different experience. Both work for me but only about 70% of the time. I am on 1.8.3.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] dLo GSR:
it's the same experience. if you read my post and my message to the dev, i had it working only part-time with the pattern lock on 1.8.3, but it's actually an error in Moto's code that we can use the FP scanner with pattern lock, which explains why it doesn't work 100% of the time in WL.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] bleuiko:
But that means it should work 100% of the time with PIN unlock and scanner combo? I switched over to the PIN unlock and that only works about 70% of the time too. I have to reboot to use the scanner.
[myTouch 4G General] gabrialxue:
Well it's been a good run....But it's time to let go!

I have a nexus s and I'm trading this phone for a g2 because theres no reason to keep two phones with such similar features.

Perhaps, if the powers that be allow it (craigslist) I shall return!

Until then, it's been great guys have fun and take care.
[myTouch 4G General] electronicrice:
. bye
[myTouch 4G General] mark manning:
Mistake, sell the ns
[myTouch 4G General] gabrialxue:
You'd be surprised how good the n's is. Amazing screen and great performance. And I gotta say, the nexus s has a much slicker look.
[myTouch 4G General] BlackSHELF:
Wait you are trading G2 for MT4G? WTF? are you crazy? Also NS is nothing special other than having SGX540 and SAMOLED. Far as SGX540 goes its slightly better than AMD Z460 regardless of what the Hummingbird fanboys want you to think. Far as performance goes has that POS device able to play full 720p videos yet? I just find it odd a phone that can score (via leak) 4000+ on quadrant with TrinityOC kernel can't even play video feed which says alot as synthetic score never translates in to real world performance. I mean only thing I hear people talk about when they say NS is THE update directly from Google. So? thats why we have AOSP and we get it better than official stock in month or two full working port.
[myTouch 4G General] Bspence415:
Welcome to the nexus s family bro u will love it!!!
[myTouch 4G General] TeeJay3800:
The myTouch 4G's huge advantage in RAM alone makes it a better phone than the Nexus S. With phone's like the Atrix now released (1GB RAM), the Nexus S' small 512MB RAM makes it seem ancient. I'll take the MT4G's 768.
[myTouch 4G General] BlackSHELF:
Ya I didn't want to start Hummingbird SoC vs Snapdragon SoC war :P so I let that go but the fact is regardless of the synthetic benchmark the NS fanboy are so fond of MT4G is superior and no the POS SGX540 has nothing to do with it as it won't even be factor. With ext of 2GS and 768mb DDR in MT4G it will out do NS clock per clock. Far as Atrix goes yeah its using 1GB RAM but its DDR2 in this case as with higher latency with dual bandwidth is same as DDR1 as I thoroughly covered on AF forum. MT4G is better than NS regardless of what these fanboys tell you these are the same people who rely on Google for updates lol which says enough.
[myTouch 4G General] kryptik06:
Mistake in two ways... Especially trading for g2...
[myTouch 4G General] vw671:
No disrespect, but I was playing with the Nexus S at Best Buy last week and was actually laughing out loud! All I could think of was it was a re-badged Galaxy S phone (which I did own).
[myTouch 4G General] EpicAaron:
I also have to agree on the choice being bad, I have a Nexus One, Nexus S, and the MT4G, there are only two things I miss about the Nexus S that the MT4G doesn't have, I loved the screen, and the weight.

The MT4G has a better camera, its faster (OC'd to 1.5ghz right now), compared to the NS 1.3), the ram (even if its only a bit more).
[myTouch 4G General] TJBunch1228:
But....but....but.....

The screen is CUUUUUURVED!!!!!

:rolleyes:
[myTouch 4G General] vaerio81:
Had a vibrant ....had a g2 had a nexus s .......kept the mt4g and so happy with it .....if u feel like it has a slicker design than that's cool but to me it felt like cheap plastic and couldn't deal with that specially dishing out $400 for it .....but once again pointless post trade ur phone keep the nexus s and enjoy and stop making dumb posts that make no sense .........use whatever makes u happy ....
[myTouch 4G General] carmeng4evr:
Wow some ppl on these threads reallly take their hatred and fanboyism to heart a little too much
[myTouch 4G General] BlackSHELF:
That's because some of us actually has deep history in this fiasco that you can't even begin to comprehend. I mean when you are correct and have actual data to prove it regardless of the delusional placebo effect faced by 90% of the Hummingbird fanboys.

Then again its not your fault you properly use your phone for some girly chitchat, but some of us actually has MT4G connected to a cluster making it one of the vNodes thus able to swift and swing proc task via wifi :P taking the whole mobile computing to the next level.

Sent from my HTC Glacier
[myTouch 4G General] TeeJay3800:
No fanboyism or hatred on my part. Read my post, it wasn't about opinions or loyalty, but about actual numbers that translate into a faster device and overall better performance.
[myTouch 4G General] SoltyPK:
Nexus S better? You haven't tried the MT4G with a Faux123 kernel have you... Good luck anyway.
[myTouch 4G General] kryptik06:
I don't know if we are reading the same thread but I don't see hate,i see facts
[myTouch 4G General] vaerio81:
I don't see fanboyish from my part either .......I always like phones and don't talk or judge them till I own them.......been from razr v3 modded them to blackberry to windows to iPhones and almost every android phone on tmobile Usa .......since my rzr v3 to my g1 to now the mt4g I change phones cuz I love phones and like to have the phone that is better than the next ....its like having a nexus one and going to a Motorola cliq xt just makes no sense for me to downgrade ....I see specs read and buy my phone and judge for myself if it doesn't work out then I sell it and buy the one better than the one I had .........as of now mt4g is good for me nothing out there to top it as of yet but when something better comes out then ill sell this and on to the next adventure ......but to each is own IMHO ........
[myTouch 4G General] BlackSHELF:
Just to be clear she didn't indicate any of you she meant that only for me but failed in her attempt to be vague :P but then again I don't blame her its not actually her fault she does not understand it as normal home user like herself no need to know the technicalities as they just want it to work for whatever myspace or fing whatever she does. But for some of us its serious business as its interconnected to critical systems.
[myTouch 4G General] cu_ninja:
I got the Nexus S and loved it but the deciding factor for me was 4g. My real world browsing experience on the MT4G is soooo much better than on the Nexus. Besides, I was going to put CyanogenMod on either one anyway so I might as well get 720p, more ram and faster downloads while I'm at it.
[myTouch 4G General] superdave513:
Indeed Faux123 is the man awaiting update now!
[myTouch 4G General] gabrialxue:
I just want to say that I do crecognize that the mytouch 4g has superior specs, however; what I'm interested in is trying new things. Plus from a financial stand point, the nexus s has a higher resale value. But thanks for the opinions guys!
[myTouch 4G General] mingkee:
NS has much better performance after Voodoo kernel installed.

Play Angry Birds on both and you'll see.

NS even can get 2000+ Quadrant score. The other device can achieve is Elocity A7.
[myTouch 4G General] carmeng4evr:
Lol.it wasn't really directed at anyone in particular. It was a statement I made in general about all android users. I'm a member of androidforums as well as here and I always noticed when someone makes a thread like this that states they are Leaving for another device people tend to come out and praise their phones and bash the other phones.

Lol.I apologize if you felt I was mentioning you. I'm a pretty straightforward girl and I hadn't even noticed your post until now :-) but along with your sexist and ageist remarks towards me you Actually proved my initial response right.
[myTouch 4G General] carmeng4evr:
Yep that's me

And wouldn't a nexus s have a higher and longer resell value due to it being a nexus phone.

Even a nexus one can be found on Craigslist for 300-350

While mytouch on various Craigslist ad go for 225-275
[myTouch 4G General] BlackSHELF:
Thats funny lets put your claim to the test.

Craigslist: Nexus One $150-180 (avg price)

Craigslist: Nexus S $200-350 (avg price)

Craigslist: myTouch 4G $300-$400 (avg price)

Just so you don't think I am biased you can go check this yourself as I did the avg while posting, keep in mind I mastered the art of "merchenting" in RS long before CL was even born as I use to make money out of eBay in HS :P If you honestly think stating some BS price without looking proves anything to us you are seriously mistaking top of that saying POS N1 sells for $350 lol I won't even pay $150 for that. First thing you learn in merchenting is about price manipulation and taking random HIGHEST price means nothing. But the price of NS is consistent which is regular as its still 1/4th of its life span.
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
That's because the Nexus one is a "designer phone" if you will. It's a sought after item while any Tom, ****, or Harry can walk into a T-Mobile, Radio Shack, or Best Buy and get a MyTouchHD. It's simple laws of supply and demand.

I have a product you want, you have money i want. Now how much will you be willing to part with.
[myTouch 4G General] TJBunch1228:
How did you find your average? Just out of curiosity. Was it based off of one city? I live in a very big small city and I can't even find a Nexus S and MT4G's only crop up every few weeks and if they are priced below $400 they are gone instantly. Just kinda funny how the market works in different geographical areas. If I got to Seattle CL, I can find a bunch of MT4G's ranging from $275- $375. I got mine for $300 in some podunk town a few hours away. Just took a road trip with the wife one saturday to make it happen.
[myTouch 4G General] BlackSHELF:
I did it global search :P I knew someone would be clever enough to think that and say it was only isolated to the city I searched. I mean I didn't just pick up the highest/lowest price I saw. Now there are few things you need to understand in merchenting when you deal with buying and selling, but that is another thread of its own. As neidlinger stated this is based on supply and demand which is true as my would reflect the equilibrium price. But if I were to buy it personally I will go lower then that :P now normally people think you round up average by calculating high+low/offer=avg but thats not the case in merchenting as its always below 20-25+% floor price below avg price. $300 for MT4G is lowest I would rate as base price as you seen but worst case $400 which you can of course counter offer and come to compromise. Just 3weeks ago I sold one MT4G for $400 as I paid $320(device+s&h) for it.
[myTouch 4G General] TJBunch1228:
I apologize for going off topic, but how do you do a "global search" for craigslist items, and then how do you find an average? Even if you could somehow compile all the worlds information for MT4G CL sales, wouldn't the list be humungous? I have been in many a situation where knowing like a national average of a product's classifieds value could have helped me. So just interested to learn something new.
[myTouch 4G General] BlackSHELF:
Far as the search goes you can use web based eCrawler or API Search Tool for CL which you can find it free online. :O whaaa I just told you I did't get the price via "high+low/offer=avg" as that take sometime to compile even with the listing in CL but it will not translate in to real numbers. You get it based on current transaction which is the equilibrium price "as is". If you use some skills you can go below 20% floor price and still go though it depending on the seller and how good your acting skill is lol.
[myTouch 4G General] carmeng4evr:
Wow you REALLY take stuff like this way too serious Lmao

This is even worse then debating with an apple fan.

I did not do a global search however i Actually choose various locations and I saw the prices I saw for the devices.

I could be wrong and I may be wrong. If I am, then Cool. Lol I don't care enough to be rift or wrong but based on what I've seen...keywords "I've seen", mytouch has a lower resale value aside from idiots who think its Cool to try and overcharge people for a used device.

If I wanted a used mytouch, the most I would pay is 275. Its used, my insurance will not cover it and paying anything more especially 350, I might as well just drop another 100 and buy a brand spanking new one.
[myTouch 4G General] carmeng4evr:
Lol you were lucky. You got an uninformed person would buy a used mytouch at the price of 400 when they could have gotten a brand spanking new one for fifty more bucks
[myTouch 4G General] vaerio81:
I know this is out of topic and I don't even wana keep talking bout this dumb what phone is better issue cuz when it comes down to it is what the user preffers but Carmen ur pic looks pretty as heck so lets all just practice *ELE* (everybody love everybody) :-)
[myTouch 4G General] BlackSHELF:
I love it when people who don't even understand their own point much less try hard to get it across. I mean who is dumb enough to even debate facts? Last time I checked fact's are things that can be proven as you to what you posted "I've seen" is irreverent. You simply made false assumption as you didn't understand what you seen and you thought it was real. Who is even talking about used phones here? Who even buy used phones? lol anything I stated is BRAND new price not even mint condition aka used regardless of those "idiots" who try to sell them thinking they will get full price for used phone that we can both agree :P

Lucky? Luck is for people like you. I mean what are you babbling about? Is that another failed assumption? Where did I state it was used device? Matter of fact I don't deal with used items as its actually risky which would mount to more loss than the profit. Just so you didn't understand its new device bought and sold.

Ill stop right now as you basically don't even have decent skill to support your own claims then you talk about Apple fanboys? lol you would know as you debate them we down here have no idea what your talking about. We follow simple rule people like you come make claims and people like me post facts and burst their bubble. From when you started posting I have yet to see even anything remotely technical that would even wrongly convey you are capable of judging or even qualified to compare the device based on hardware. Yet ironically you talk about being "uninformed"?

I am done here I should have known better to debate some AF users who chitchats and would pay more than the device is worth because it has Google on it. In that case be happy with it and pay for it as you do deserve what you will get as punishment as you only have yourself to blame.
[myTouch 4G General] gabrialxue:
Well actually in my area, a nexus s in great condition with all the accessories still sells for around 500 dollars. Plus I technically bought it for 340 because I traded my dell venue pro for it.
[myTouch 4G General] TeeJay3800:
Here are the facts. You ask what phone is better in the MT4G forum, and most responses will support the MT4G. Ask the same question in the Nexus S forum, and most posts will support the Nexus S. So it comes down to which has better specs. The CPU and GPU on both phones are extremely close, and because of common differences in setup from one phone to another, it's nearly impossible to decide which is better in that regard. Screen quality is also subjective. The only real and easy way to distinguish a difference between the two phones is RAM, and the MT4G wins by a wide margin in that area.

There's no arguing raw data, and 768 is a higher number than 512. Case closed. :)
[myTouch 4G General] carmeng4evr:
Lol sometimes you do things and look back on them and ask yourself

What possessed me to act like that.

Case in point, I'm debating a phone lol. Yep, its a boring Friday ha

But I don't see the fact that I'm a AD user has to do with anything but instead of getting into another pointless and ignorant debate about who has the biggest....lol I will just agree to disagree :-)
[myTouch 4G General] carmeng4evr:
Aww thank you :-)
[myTouch 4G General] BlackSHELF:
Well you are mostly correct but I try not to be biased from the start. As both has pro and cons but you have to go for the balanced one.

NS = SAMOLED, SGX540

MT4G= 4G, mSD, RAM

Fact is AMD Z460 comes near close to SGX540 which you see take effect in 2GS-SoC compared to old AMD Z430. I mean I am not going to even try to debate the fact the whole Galaxy S based has better screen as only a fool would as I do agree and have to give credit where its due. I mean IDK what SamSUX was thinking not providing mSD in NS as 16GB is not enough. Where we have 4GB ROM and up to 32GB mSD support. Far as performance goes how memory is allocated you can see first hand the difference this is where 768MB RAM comes in. 4G I won't try to even defend as that varies place to place so it don't matter unless you can access it.

^ basically what I have already said before in this very thread, before Ms ChitChat came down here try to push down some miss information that no way any way helped the OP.
[myTouch 4G General] carmeng4evr:
lol i was merely stating my opinion, as others did in this thread. LOL i do not recall the Op making this thread seeking help had he asked for help, i would've offered it if I could. He said good bye and the subsequent replies were pretty much about which phone was better and how he was making a bad choice in phones and I expressed "MY OPINION" about fanboy remarks and well, you know the story....

i think you took it a wee bit personal making sexist remarks or pointless nicknames(lol the comments were amusing) and took the conversation into

a different direction but at the end of the day, it really is not that serious but I do enjoy a good debate :)
[myTouch 4G General] christate:
Feisty cute chick holds her own. I respect that :p

But at the end of the day, the mytouch is the better phone but i would take a Nexus S over an iphone any day. I rather support samsuck then crapple

Unrelated, how do i contact Xda about my username? I cant log into my old user name anymore & i have yet to receive the password. Had to create

a new account
[myTouch 4G General] enculturation:
I have to say. As far as Android goes I've been through the mytouch 3G, the Slide, and a G2, and I have to say that this is the nicest phone I've ever owned. The G2 is nice but its missing allot of the "bells and whistles" that we've got on this phone. And the grey rubber like material will actually change color on you FYI. Search the forums for that...
[myTouch 4G General] BlackSHELF:
lol thank you for proving my point with your own words. How is that even debate then? as I was stating facts you were stating your own opinions, which you have complete right to do long as you admit its opinion and don't try to masquerade as facts thinking none will notice. But that sexist thing made me laugh lol I mean come now far as we know your a dude IRL lol but thats another subject of its own :P as you should check AF for comments I am sure I left you like week ago? if that was you that is if I am not mistaking.
[myTouch 4G General] carmeng4evr:
yeahh....pretty sure i have a vagina. LOl but if my gender is any question :)

I do have a facebook and I will be getting on youtube with my very own channel

hopefully in april as I want to start doing video reviews for various phones I have(and fashion stuff, singing stuff) and you'll see I have breast and not an adam's apple :)

that was cute tho....really cute lol

And I don't think I ever stated in any of my threads that what I said was factual. So i don't know where you got the assumption.

and as far as AF goes, i really do not pay much attention to anything on there.
[myTouch 4G General] BlackSHELF:
WOWWWWWWW thats way to much info :P lets keep it G rated here X rated else where K? :P but you can prove it to me by dropping me some photos or other stuff via PM :P I don't mind.
[myTouch 4G General] carmeng4evr:
lol im sure u don't :)
[myTouch 4G General] BlackSHELF:
You know what they say woman is "root" (android) of all evil :P as talking about apples you would know :P as it was Eve who nagged Adam till he bit it thinking he could just choke on it and die so he wouldn't have to hear her nag on and on :P
[myTouch 4G General] carmeng4evr:
lmao that is funny
[myTouch 4G General] BlackSHELF:
Muahahahaaaaaa you shouldn't have edited that.

As this sounds fishy to me :P

So what you were saying is that you have the biggest whaaaa? :O IDK maybe you do have it :P with that in mind I am going to sleep before I get you angry and I get...
[myTouch 4G General] carmeng4evr:
lol this thread has gone way off topic.
[myTouch 4G General] tackleberry:
Coming from a mytouch 4g to a g2 I prefer the g2 hardware. The mytouch feel and screen were better. I played with a nexus s and put it down in seconds. I was not impressed. The Samsung Android look is plain kid like and awful looking last time I saw one. I rather have sense.

From my permarooted 1209mhz G2 with CM7 nightly 6
[myTouch 4G General] carmeng4evr:
As a ui, I like touchwiz over sense but I don't like a lot of Samsung products
[myTouch 4G General] TJBunch1228:
Does the NS have TWiz even? I thought it was supposed to be Vanilla Android?
[myTouch 4G General] vaerio81:
Naw no twiz ........that's y I had bought mines thinking it was gona b better than my vibrant .......I mean it was better but not by alot that's y I said bye to it .......
[myTouch 4G General] TJBunch1228:
I just don't see why anyone would want a Nexus S anyway. It seems like a midrange phone compared to other offerings out now.
[myTouch 4G General] carmeng4evr:
Yeah that was my mistake. It doesn't have touchwiz.

I frankly hate vanilla Android more then sense.

Touchwiz, blur, and timescape are my faves.

But I don't think the phone is midrange. That's like someone asking why would we want mytouch 4g. In fact from other forums, I have frequented a lot of post view the mytouch line as more of a femine device anyway given its name and what not and the fact it looks like a toy or something a kid would use. I don't see that myself but ehh, ppl are entitled to their opinions.

It doesn't help that T-Mobile markets the phone the way they do as it is.
[myTouch 4G General] TJBunch1228:
Ok midrange was harsh. I don't think the Vibrant is midrange, and the NS if almost identical except missing some features like expandable memory.

Android in general is marketed toward more of a male audience so I think tmo is capitalizing on drawing in a more neutral audience with their mytouch line. I mean every Verizon Android commercial is all robotic and such.

And I actually thought I hated touchwiz, but it was just my unrooted, un'lagfixed Vibrant I hated. One I tried touchwiz when my phone was optimized and functioning how it should have, twiz was very enjoyable.