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[Venue Pro General] gibbyhome:
WOW,

So it looks like the NoDo did not fix the memory problem with the dell venue pro's

I have a venue pro with out any update and had the wifi download crashing, replaced my SD Card with a Sandisk 16 gig Class 2 card and do not ever freeze anymore ...
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
They wont get away with it in the UK, from trading standard to angry users they will get a ton of bad press, maybe worse. We could be possibly seeing the end of dell in the smartphone arena, and frankly I cant say they will be missed.
[Venue Pro General] lenioia:
480 is the average reading of any other wp7 with 512mb, as some memory is used by the OS and is excluded by this you will never read 512 here. So I think this reading means they did fix the ram issue (phones with issues report approx 225mb!) on the units sold in India.
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Or could just be new hardware.
[Venue Pro General] Arcarsenal:
It is highly unlikely they re-did the fab process to add more RAM. Very much out of the realm of possibility.
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
HTC's done it in the past with different versions of the Diamond with different amounts of RAM. There seems to be an extraordinarily high level of confidence in Dell to somehow add extra RAM with a software update, and after all that we've seen from them that is highly surprising.
[Venue Pro General] Crimson Lotus:
I'm assuming the the NoDo DVPs in India isn't finalize, otherwise MS would of release the update sooner. Lets ALL be Patience and wait for the Official Release.
[Venue Pro General] frazell:
The Indian version also has an updated firmware. That is why we are holding out that Dell fixed it in a firmware update we are waiting to get.

We won't know for certain though until NoDo releases for the rest of us.
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
I agree, but after 4 swaps its hard to be anything but pessimistic when it comes to Dell solving this problem. And we've already had one report of someone with the newer batch from India having the same freezing so I'm not optimistic. Especially when it still could be the best WP7 device available, but Dell just doesnt seem to give to flying figs and will probably move on to the Wrigley device and try and bury the whole DVP fiasco, along with its users.
[Venue Pro General] monty1854:
Guys just tell me how to extract the xap file for u guys. I am going in for the replacement to a Dell service center lets see how things roll out. Regarding the NO-DO update there is a small error u cant just copy paste any text for example i had to copy some text from a mail and i could not see the copy paste functionality also its still not available in some apps some notes app. You can only copy paste it from messages and web pages. The crashes just got worse plus dell is not acknowledging the problem in India.
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
Just sent you a PM.
[Venue Pro General] monty1854:
I feel stupid spending 33,000 Rs on this phone looks sexy but cant perform daily tasks. one more thing the phone only freezes while downloading from WIFI from marketplace or else its smooth sailing. One more instance was when i was using the camera app took a snap and it froze instantly as if it could not access the card or could not save it.
[Venue Pro General] domineus:
welcome to dell my friend
[Venue Pro General] alodar1:
I'm sorry....but ...huh?

What do you mean not final? And if its not final, how did they get Dell, or anyone else to release it?

What I beleive we are seeing is:

The contents of update #2...the NODO update.

We saw #1, build 7008

NODO could be update #2, build 7355( if I recall that number correctly)

Could there be a Update #3 in store, for those fixes that occured since the NODO build went out?

Before we speculate...here's my reasoning.

In order for Dell to ship this build on a new device, they need, say 8 weeks preparation. The 8 weeks is to make a point...I really don't know the time needed. But if its 8 weeks....then the NODO build would have been handed off to dell around Christmas.

But that also means the update schedules, the bug fixes and stuff spoken about at MWC and CES, would NOT have been included in this build.

Another point, in the US, we see Sprint opting for a March 20 launch date for WP7. I assume NODO. Verizon will follow behind that...I heard dates from 3/20 to 4/20. In order to make the new builds effective, there almost has to be another update planned, POST NODO, Post Sprint/Verizon launch....just to cover any NODO fixes....if you buy into the Christmas hand off.

To me this makes sense. Only time will tell...thats for sure.
[Venue Pro General] monty1854:
I just went to the Dell Service center and they said they havent heard of any such issues with the phone, they also did not have replacement unit in stock they said i will have to wait minimum 4-5 working days. Guys i want to ask an honest question is the hd7 better and stable phone than this i love WP7 but i cant stand this phone or dell anymore. What do you guys say.
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Honestly, the one thing you will notice is the hd7 screen is worse but for stability there is no contest, the hd7 and in fact all other wp7 devices are vastly more stable than the Dell.
[Venue Pro General] monty1854:
So true but I am stuck, but Dell has agreed to give me a replacement unit tomorrow. The dealer said he will replace the DVP with HD7 if the replacement unit is defective.
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Good luck, but after 4 devices myself I dont expect much anymore from dell.
[Venue Pro General] cdgoin:
OK.. why is this hard for people to understand..

The 8GB version have overall no problems with lockup (A few but a MUCH smaller portion)

Those with 16GB versions have major problems

Those that swap the SD Card in thier 8GB and 16GB versions seem overall to stop having problems.

THUS... NO software patch will fix BAD SD Cards..

As for the markplace issue that is a WP bug in international markets.

I have had 2 DVPs and both ran awesome (My first developed screen lint)
[Venue Pro General] domineus:
begin quoting the net and the American users that are having the issues w/ dell finally admitting to the freeze related issues with the device

get the cs agent name if you can if they give you issues

then email michael dell and demand a refund

for the amount of money you paid unlocked you should have the best
[Venue Pro General] Arcarsenal:
They are not going to "add more RAM with a software update", come on - we're both smart people and know that's not possible.

They will release updated firmware that will allow the device to accurately reflect and display the hardware inside.
[Venue Pro General] Crimson Lotus:
This is an early stage of WP7 & DVP, you should of expect it to have some problem w/ software at the very least. Everyone that own a WP7 are pretty much "Early Adopters" of WP7.

If you want something w/ a QWERTY Keyboard, Check out HTC 7 Pro or LG Quantum.

If not, Go Android.
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
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[Venue Pro General] pjfan75:
Is the replacement better as far as dust under the glass? I got a replacement last week due to dust on my original, but the replacement locked up like crazy. So if dust is inevitable, I don't want to waste my time trying to get a stable device.
[Venue Pro General] monty1854:
Well it seems DVP is a nightmare for people like me also there is no 8GB version for India. The only way out of this is an HD7 or Android, still will give Dell a chance to prove me wrong and wait for the replacement unit.
[Venue Pro General] grigsby1:
I have 2 dell venue pros, both was the 8gb. when i got the first 1 it use to freeze and i would have to pull battery often, then i ordered 2-32GB Micro SD SDHC Memory Card off of ebay. did the swap card on the venue pro and it has not froze anymore. when i got the 2nd venue pro i swapped the card before my friend started using and she has not had any freeze ups. i wouldl suggest buying a new card.
[Venue Pro General] varunverma:
can u suggest type of cards which will not have compatibility issues with dvp?

As far as I have learnt, wp7 is very particular about type of cards compatible with it..

Sent from my HD7 T9292 using Board Express
[Venue Pro General] monty1854:
Ok guys yesterday night out of the blue I just thought of escalating the issue to Dell and i directly mailed Michael Dell regarding my issue and concern and guess what the man did his job he mailed the issue forward to all people in India and got a call today morning they have appointed a Dell mobility specialist specially for my case and he also said the case is on priority. I think this can make a difference.
[Venue Pro General] monty1854:
Ok guys got the second DVP but it still freezes my hopes have gone down and I am going in for the desire HD as of now let Dell clear the errors first then will think on buying any Dell product again.
[Venue Pro General] blitzkrieg7710:
Hi @monty1854.... can you please tell me how you were able to view all the info about the device that you have published on the first page? I tried accessing the device info link on the phone, but it only shows the memory as 15.08 GB and no other details....

Thx in advance !!!!
[Venue Pro General] grigsby1:
the one i used was SanDisk 32GB Micro SD SDHC Memory Card. changed my card on my DVP's and have not had 1 problem..
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
There's an application in the marketplace called Device Info that shows that extended information.
[Venue Pro General] monty1854:
Yup use the device info app from the marketplace. Ok update a guy called Pramod who is the head of R&D department india is helping me out trying to sort the issue. According to some research the phone does not hang on all wifi's but on some has nebody tried downloading from different routers.
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Dont let them start sending you on wild goose chases. Obviously all of us aren't running the same routers or WiFi speeds, and I have even had lockups just by turning WiFi on with no routers anywhere near. Its a Dell hardware issue, card or otherwise and nothing else.
[Venue Pro General] blitzkrieg7710:
Hi @monty1854, I tried accessing the marketplace but it says, "There is no Marketplace available for your Country/ Region".

Can you please help me with the regional settings that you have in your phone??? Or if this is a known issue, then is there a way around it???

Regrds
[Venue Pro General] varunverma:
you need to have a live id with US address first.then u need to have a patch installed on ur PC

Check the hd2- wp7 development sub forum for the link.

Sent from my HD7 T9292 using Board Express
[Venue Pro General] monty1854:
Ok u can have a live id from us which is very easy to create windows live hotmail then just log in witb ghe id
[Venue Pro General] varunverma:
people with freezing issues pls read this Are Dell Venue Pro issues related to microSD cards?

if not read already :P
[Venue Pro General] Crimson Lotus:
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[Venue Pro General] :
SanDisk Class 2 32GB
[Venue Pro General] varunverma:
or class 6.

Check my sign

on the bottom of same page u'll find another blog entry where max Miller shows his dvp running 32gb class 6 sd card

Sent from my Venue Pro using Board Express
[Venue Pro General] tai4de2:
I successfully run a 16GB class 2 SanDisk that came with my TMOUS HD2.
[Venue Pro General] merks_2002:
i bought DVP 2 days back and still having the freezing problem while using wi fi :mad:

i had to remove battery several times to start the phone again. After switching it off , it doesn't start by pressing power button and starts only after i remove and put battery ...
[Venue Pro General] varunverma:
Can't seem to make my 16gb class2 from hd2 work.

Sent from my HD7 T9292 using Board Express
[Venue Pro General] alodar1:
Have you gotten it to work?

The card from an HD2 will work. I ran mine for 4weeks with the HD2 card. The key to getting it work is the PROCESS. The removal or addition of a new card requires the Hard reset process.....

Try this.

If you have swapped a card NOT using the recommended instructions, you may not be able to restore your device. ALL card swaps, both removal and insertion, should be as part of a hard reset. the TYPE of card does NOT matter. The PROCESS matters. The card type only impacts the storage amount, hangs, freezes, etc. To put your phone in position to change cards, there is only 1 way...

To Remove a SD card from the DELL

>>>>>>>>

1. Hard reset device

2. Before the phone reboots...pre logo's, pull battery and pull card.

3. Put battery back in and start

4. On the Get started screen, run through phone setup.

>>>>>>>>

To insert a new card in a DELL

5. From a Working Dell, repeat steps 1&2.

6. Insert new card

7. repeat 3&4.

8. Your Device should be functional.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Occassionally with a new card, you might get a storage card not working message. I've seen this message several times using 16g cards above class 4. To resolve this:

1. Pray

2. Pull the battery and reset the SD card. DO NOT REPLACE CARD.

3. Insert Battery and restart

4. Pray.

5. Repeat as necessary. I have on a few occassions had to do this 4 times.

If you get this message, and your card is properly seated, STRONGLY consider a new card. The message indicates your device is NOT seeing your card. Change it. MAKE sure you change it using the steps above.

NO SHORTCUTS. If you don't understand these instructions, don't change the card. Be clear. If your device gets bricked, there are very few options available to you.....none that do not involve DELL....that I know of.
[Venue Pro General] varunverma:
no, i haven't tried it again. i am good with the 8gb for now.

the 16 gb card worked fine with my hd2 running wp7. so i am keeping bigger files in hd2..
[Venue Pro General] devjadeja:
Hi Guys

Thank u all for givings some useful Advice

I am from India ... I have loved the WP7 devices.

I love to surf on WIFI and I am connected a lot to the Internet.

Have seen the HD7 .. but didn't like the build quality on it ..also with HD7 its still got a LCD display ... not AMOLED... etc. so NO HD7 for me.

After hearing all these issues on the forum, Should I purchase a DVP anymore?

Or any other WP7 device ?

Suggest something plz...
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
There is no device that is (or will be) out there without issues. I personally like the DVP and Samsung Omnia 7 16GB of the WP7 devices. Are you going to buy the DVP from the US or in India? If buying from US, you might also want to watch out for (reviews) the new HD7S(improved screen) for ATT.
[Venue Pro General] devjadeja:
Hi

Ya sure there is no problem free device.

I live in India. I will purchase from Dell India.

The major prob i have is the issue relating to WIFI with DVP !

Even Samsung is bugged with Updates probs though

Anything else !
[Venue Pro General] devjadeja:
Guys .. I got some Info ..

After going through the probs of WP7 on the Net..

I found that its not a DVP problem only..

Even Samsung & HTC WP7 have had crashes while surfing on WIFI on their respective devices barring a few some fones here & there.

LG is good but its not problem free either. There are screen issues with it too.

There maybe a SD card problem .. but some sites and people also have got a lot of trouble after changing cards also .. so avoid that and take care.

Also it seems that Marketplace, Zune, Xbox Games.. And/Or other Apps that have been downloaded have created this Issue. Else the fone works fine... not to say that there are Major issues regarding the Above to be addressed soon.

I mean u gotta use Marketplace, F.B. And Apps. even though how less or few their usage maybe to people ... Also Xbox is used quite often though.. so Microsoft has to resolve this prob ...

Thats why they probably sent DVP to here in India with Firmware updates in connection with Dell ...

But the Prob persists and needs to be resolved !
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] tsalate:
I have read quite a few post on how members are semi bricking to full bricking their phones. I think one of the problems might be people are thinking this phone is a Vibrant which is not. It another galaxy variant like the epic 4g and fasinate. And should be treated as such. That's why the name is galaxy 4g and not vibrant 4g so there could be a clear distinction between the two. Also for all those who can't get them back working or traded in. If you have insurance on the device just say you had a wild night out drinking and lost it. Will cost you alittle more but when the correct pit and tar is released you will have a phone to sale to recoup some of your lost funds.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] pbedard:
Galaxy s duh
[HD Mini General] Ell cullend:
Im trying to use the android running fron the SD card from another post, the android is under development still, but or some reason it only works on my 2gb mem card and not my 16gb card. is it maybe because of the format?

the 2gb came with the phone, but i formated my new 16gb on the phone but it still doesnt work.

thanks :)

this is all on the htc hd mini (photon) btw
[HD Mini General] iPlasm:
You just Format your 16GB SD to FAT32, and copy the Cotulla's Android to your SD then open Explorer on your phone, and tap on HaRET.

That is it.

Of me, the Android works, but it's too slow mine, microSD 8GB
[HD Mini General] ledavi:
i'm using an 16 gb microsd on my mini and it runs android very well (fast) and in my opinion any 16 gb card should work since 16 gb are relatively new and faster than the smaller ones .Keep trying ,format the card on pc ,i personally formated with the phone's formating tool
[HD Mini General] Ell cullend:
damn.. one of the times i tried it did the start up video (very slowy) and then froze, now just keeps freezing on the load bar agen. i formated it using the phone formater as its the only way i can. but still bein gay.

ive got a string feeling its due to the type of memry card, as my difrent branded 2gb one works fine, but when the android is eventualy 100% done i wont be able to have it all on my 16gb :(
[HD Mini General] Ell cullend:
what brand/make is ur sd card?

thanks
[HD Mini General] ledavi:
it's Kingmax 16gb microsdhc class 2 (first time took android about 20 minutes to boot and now about 3-4 minutes )
[HD Mini General] iPlasm:
Mine is writen (microSD), 8GB

in my Android, for first time had takes about 2 hours and creates Data File, but second time it's will boot about 33 Minutes (too much, isn't?) and the android runs but it's slow. I formated the SD with many Format programs.. all of them same things, I also upgraded my WinMo but it was same. :o
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] adishaswot:
I hav my phone permanently rooted by z4root.. and downloaded cyanogenmod6 signed from "cyanogenmod4milestone.googlecode.com" and renamed it update.zip and copied that in my sd card.. now when I rebooted and selected "apply sdcard:update.zip", here is the log...

Android system recovery <2e>

..

E: Can't open /cache/recovery/command

-- Install from sdcard

Finding update package..

Verifying update package..

E: Failed to verify whole-file signature

E: Signature verification failed

Installation aborted

...

I really don't kno what's wrong..

I too want to kno what is GOT?? ..heard a lot abt this...

Thankyou..
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Silverwzw:
Hi all, there's a simple mod enable the call-record feature on i9000:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=967297

and here is another approach:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=863074

I want to know if any of these also works on Nexus S?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g33k84:
FYI - I've tried the patch and although it says it backs up the Phone.apk and injects the "modded" Phone.apk - neither of these seem to occur.

I do however end up with the .rec template.

The APK app works fine.

When I dial, its as though nothing has happened to the phone.apk - no errors, no display indicating failure - nothing.

I do have SU/Root access on Android 2.3.3
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Silverwzw:
So, are you saying that you have the call record feature worked, although the patch didn't inject the "modded" Phone.apk?

How did it happen? You made an recovery image by yourself and flash it?

Thank you~
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g33k84:
Hi mate,

No, im saying that the patch SAYS it worked, but it doesn't in fact patch anything.

I suspect it will only work with that particular Samsung model due to the firmware.

Looks like you'll have to wait for someone to investigate further.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amumy:
A great need for this feature！
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g33k84:
Hi All,

I have a Nexus S with a strange problem. It was originally stock, with no ROM mods at all, I then applied the SU patch get root happening - all worked fine for months.

I then manually applied the 2.3.3 update about 1 week ago. All working fine with no issues.

Today however, i've come to check my phone to find it 'frozen' on the boot screen.

Thinking it was just another lovely OS glitch, I battery pulled, to find it turned into an endless Nexus S boot loop. I booted into recovery, wiped the cache. Same Issue. I Booted into recover a gain, did a factory data reset. Same issue. I booted in recovery again and re-applied the 2.3.3 update which was on my memory from the previous update. Same issue.

The phone seems to either freeze during boot, or go into and endless loop.

Ideas? - The only other thing that i thought would be to do a bootloader unlock to wipe EVERYTHING... but im not sure if its worth it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mike007007:
Why not? You can lock it back with fastboot oem lock command.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
If you can get into clockwork recovery, you have access to adb, so be sure to use adb pull to grab everything off your sdcard before doing something drastic like a oem unlock to wipe the phone.

Also, have you tried booting the phone while plugged into your computer with adb running? Use "adb logcat" to collect as much of the boot process as you can and it might give a clue as to what is going wrong.

Another "almost last resort" option would be to apply the FULL 2.3.3 update, the one that overwrites your system folder instead of patching it. You can push it to the sdcard with adb while in clockwork, but remember to use mounts and storage menu to mount the sdcard.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g33k84:
Sadly, it was a locked bootloader, so had no luck with that

As above, no permission to run recovery image.

Couldn't get in as i had no ADB access.

In any case, i did a OEM unlock, and still had similar boot issues. The OS would boot, but despite flashing a custom clockwork recovery, it wouldn't get from BootLoad thru to Recovery. It also still had random hangs on boot.

I performed a fastboot flashall and also a fastboot erase boot and recovery. Leaving the phone totally empty.

I then re-loaded a rooted 2.3.3 with latest Clockwork and all worked fine. I've also updated radio to B3 - seems to work flawlessly.

I can only think something was screwy with the boot/recovery sections - very weird but all appears to work fine now.

Many thanks for the help.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
You don't need recovery access to use adb. We might be miscommunicating, and it doesn't matter much since you've already nuked the phone, but what I was suggesting was a regular boot while trying to adb logcat the phone. I've used this technique to document the startup process in the past. Adb access loads up fairly soon in the process. If your phone wasn't even getting that far, of course it wouldn't work, but wanted to clear up what I was suggesting with that particular paragraph.
[Dash 3G, Snap General] khuram.shahzad:
please up date the rom of black barry I cone with win 6.5 for HTC OZONE