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[Defy Android Development] antony.ps:
I dunno if this solve your problem, but in Titanium backup you have the option to transfer your apps to SD (never tested it). I was installing every rom on this forum, and to make all my apps to the phone again, i have make a .bat to install it via ADB (there's other post in other part of xda explaiing this, credits to them):

cd /folderwithyourapps
dir /s /b > install.bat
notepad install.bat

Now replace

C:

with

adb install "C:

then replace

.apk

with

.apk"

run install.bat and all your apps will be restored! I save all my apk's in a folder to easily install them after a ROM update... you can save t6hem with many different apps, androzip, file explorer, and many other app management tools.

Good luck!
[Defy Android Development] Chillimonster:
Just installed - stunningly quick - excellent work.

Time to have a play :D
[Defy Android Development] justjim:
Hi fritolays,

I'm still on 1.3 but looking forward to 1.5. I dunno Chinese input is included in 1.4, but may I request it to be in 1.5 (if its not already in 1.4)? You mentioned in the early days that it is possible to allow user to add Chinese input support manually, may I find out how so (if adding the support to 1.5 is too much trouble)?

Looking forward to 1.5! Keep up the good work.

Regards.
[Defy Android Development] r3flux:
Possible Alternative Launcher?

I've just tried out a new 3D launcher - Regina 3D and it seems to be really fast and lag-free. Definitely better than SPB Shell 3D! Would you consider this as an option in 1.5?
[Defy Android Development] r3flux:
Alternative Keyboard to Swype?

I know installing Swype is a bummer. I have a beta and yet I have to install the installer which then will install the actual app and so on. For lack of a better alternative, I relented everytime. However FlexT9 is supposed to go one up on Swype. Do take a look and see if you can incorporate this in the next version of Barebones! Looks promising and offers slide to type as well as write to type..

p.s. the 3D launcher may not be such a good idea on a Barebones ROM, but I'm really rooting for this

EDIT: Sorry, it turns out it's not FREE! Aarrgh!
[Defy Android Development] dzikki:
hello fritolays

i found that you are removing stk.apk from your ROM, since i'm using STK almost every day i need that stuff. Any idea where i can find the stk.apk which will work with your ROM?

and also what is the best way to install that STK? i'm not familiar with those adb/terminal stuff, and i did tried to install normally via installer manager and it doesn't work :D.

appreciated for your attention.
[Defy Android Development] superfastmonkey:
Snappy, REALLY snappy!

Looking good, i hope it is stable for me- thankfully with help from others, I have been able to flash the SBF (renaming trick).

Thanks.
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
maybe v1.5 could use 3.4.2-177 Nordic

it is froyo 2.2.2 and fast.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1037076
[Defy Android Development] slph:
May be include Calculator.apk by default? It's not bad app, i think :)

Anyway, awesome rom. Best:)

Please stay styled and minimalistic way in future versions.
[Defy Android Development] loi91:
facebook sync

hi, im missing the possibility to sync my contacts with my facebook friendlist.

Could you please integrate this feature in a future 1.5 version or maybe provide a patch for us to integrate it our selfe?

thx
[Defy Android Development] loi91:
Consider to base the new rom on the korean 2.3?
[Defy Android Development] freemanlowell:
I tell you what, I've just realised how much work you must put into each release and patch.

Seeing as BB 1.5 was a week away, I thought I'd try out the 3.4.2-177 Nordic stock release. I flashed it, patched it, rooted it, de-odexed it, de-blurred and de-branded it, overclocked it, moved to Launcher Pro and all the simple stock apps you see in the BareBones releases such as AOSP Email.apk and Mms.apk, then removed all the extra bloat, just like in the BareBones releases.... And after all that, and re-installing my favourite apps and settings it was certainly wasn't as good as any BareBones release and without all of your careful tweaks and patches it didn't run as fast or as well!

Then suddenly it was 4am and I wondered why the hell I hadn't just stuck with BareBones. I've gone back to 1.4+patch this morning.

So, thanks for all the work. I can imagine that you're putting a lot of time and effort into this ROM modification for our benefit, so thanks, we really do appreciate it! :D
[Defy Android Development] superfastmonkey:
That's quite some effort Freemanlowell, perhaps fritolays could delegate some work to you, or you could compile since patches, customisations etc.

Really impressed with barebones, after a glitch when just I installing maps, it has now passed the bluetooth and gps test.
[Defy Android Development] freemanlowell:
It was, which is odd for me! I'm still a noob in this game really, I only got my Defy ten days ago and I've just been trying out everything I can see in these forums since then. I tried xUltimate in Win7 for de-odexing, which seemed to work but took ages, then manually removed all the unwanted stuff over ADB from a shell window in Ubuntu.

Fritolays - perhaps you can give us a day in the life of a dev as good as yourself? What tools do you use, what SDKs, OSes etc make all that work you're doing possible? We'd be very interested to hear how it is you're making this magic happen, like a brief work log to complement the change logs you write... or something?

Of course, if a magician can never reveal his secrets, we'd understand that too. :cool:
[Defy Android Development] fritolays:
One question for 1.5, how in-depth should I go with this. I mean want a 2nd init rom? Or another stock mod. Also it will be based off of the new nordic build.

Or if cm7 is functional enough to be used daily... should I build off of that. Seeing as (I knew this) Barebones is more a collection of tweaks.

We shall wait and see what happens in the next few days with cm7; otherwise it will be on the nordic build. So requests in before Friday for new features.

And about my work ethic, I might get around to it after I build the next version; I'll put a basic rom guide together.
[Defy Android Development] Febernacke:
I dont want any second init stuff just a barebone ROM like 1.3, 1.4 is :)
[Defy Android Development] slph:
Tested CM7 and then back to Barebones, cuz:

Too much of options, total mess in menu, settings on setting over settings and under settings, for what? Some stuff in main menu, like DSP manager. Hugelistic :S obviously bugs, but probably they will be fixed.

If you have time and magic power to merge your minimalistic way with CM functionality, that will be perfect.

But, I am happy with current 1.4, may be here is optimal way to make something 1.4_and_a_half, same as 1.4, but based on 177 with 2ndinit and other horny stuff.
[Defy Android Development] breezasib:
I would say go with the 2.2.2 3.4.2_177-005

Using this at the moment and it looks good so far.

Tried CM7 for a bit but it still needs a fair amount of work although it is progressing quickly :)

Did you manage to rip the lock screen out of the korean rom in the end? Would really love that in the next release.
[Defy Android Development] t830mc:
I'm on Nordic 3.4.2_177. Seems better then 3.4.2_155 version, battery wise.

I would like to have barebones based on 3.4.2_177. No 2nd init, or else.
[Defy Android Development] superfastmonkey:
I have an issue with 1.4- I can't install angry birds, it just says ' can't install to usb or sd card' when I try from the market. Titanium says it's installed, but doesn't do anything. No biggie, but it's weird.
[Defy Android Development] freemanlowell:
My vote would be a slimmed down Nordic build with the same or similar alterations you've made up to now. One feature of all your work so far has been that its been rock solid stable all day every day in use for me, and I'm thinking you'd continue that better with a 2.2.2 Nordic base than with a developing Cyanogen hybrid 2nd init build. (for now at least; I bet we have a pretty much working Cyanogen, hopefully without 2nd init, by the summer!)

One special request would be to get an AOSP email.apk back and working. The one we're using at the moment 1. bypasses Exchange security policies and 2. has screwed up icons in the menu. It does work other than that though, but it'd be great to have a stock email.apk back again. I haven't been able to get one working so far (other than the modified XDA version from your bb_extras set). I can test an apk with my exchange server if anyone has a source for an alternate apk build.

That would be really interesting. There's so much information on this forum that it'd be great to see which of the many different methods you choose to make your software with. I'm looking forward to reading that!

Edit: On the email.apk front, it seems like all the trouble I've been having with Email.apk is down to a know problem with Android Email.apk and Exchange Server 2010 SP1. The bug is fixed in Email.apk 2.2.1 and 2.3 apparently (so therefore the XDA version works) so I'm going to try and compile a barebones-compatible version of the newer code.
[Defy Android Development] freemanlowell:
That turned out to be far easier than I thought. I grabbed the newest version of the SDK, created an emulated 2.2 phone in that and copied out the email.apk. It is reported as being version 2.2, but has subfoldering, correct icons, and more to the point it connects to my Exchange 2010 SP1 server without any problems. Let me know if this APK would be of any use to anyone here and I'll host it or post it.
[Defy Android Development] r3flux:
Build off CM7

I've been using Barebones since I got my Defy. I've only tried one other ROM and that is CM7. I find it to be extremely fast and snappy just like Barebones. Why not build off it? Yes, I also like the control over options and settings it offer, so please consider making the next version off CM7. I'm using it without a hitch so far since yesterday. Looking forward to the Work ethic of 'Fritolays'! Thank you!
[Defy Android Development] domenukk:
Always for Open source here.

CM7 as soon as it's feature complete.

I use CM7 on 2 Phones and as soon as you figure out how to navigate through the jungle, you can do anything with it.

have a look at minimal theme. ;)
[Defy Android Development] r3flux:
Minimal Me!

I'm using CM7 (Quarx's port for the Defy) and what is the minimal theme you speak of? Do share!
[Defy Android Development] loi91:
Has anyone succesfuly integrated facebook sync for the contacts in the Barebones rom? I realy like this feature in the stock defy rom.

@fritolays: could you please integrate that in v1.5?

THX!

by the way: great work! barebones + Launcher Pro makes the defy (even with out oc) smooth and responsive!
[Defy Android Development] rrhg:
All,

I'm currently in 3.4.3-11. With this sbf can i flash directly our rom with 2ndinit or it's doesn't work and need to downgrade to 3.4.2-115 before?

Thks for help
[Defy Android Development] superfastmonkey:
I can't install ' crazy snowboard ' either. It downloads from the market but I just get an ' installation unsuccessful' notice. Has happened with other apps too.

Any ideas anyone?

I have tried clearing market cache, no dice'
[Defy Android Development] superfastmonkey:
It worked after unmounting my sd card, seems heaps if people are having this issue category, don't know why..
[Defy Android Development] superfastmonkey:
Battery life on this rom is nothing short of astounding btw, I have never had anything like it!
[Defy Android Development] antony.ps:
You can use 3rd party apps for that. Fritolays will not put this in Barebones since it needs blur bloatware to be loaded. If you really need this, and don't like the alternatives to sync your facebooks contacts in market, try Jboogie's BlurGinger, it's the best rom with Blur that i tested (but i prefer without it ;)

You need to restore nandroid from 3.4.2-155-002, flash the fixed SBF from the same stock ROM, install recovery or bootmenu, then apply the zip from Barebones. You can't use 3.4.3-11 since this rom is not based on it (but i never tested).
[Defy Android Development] rrhg:
But where can i get nandroid backup for 3.4.2-115. In the stickies page it's seems to be a sbf file not a nand backup
[Defy Android Development] Dewman4life:
Outstanding rom frito. By far the best for customizing
[Defy Android Development] freemanlowell:
Really? I've been meaning to ask on here actually - what's your battery life like?

I use my Defy (Barebones 1.4+patch) to sync 1 GMail account and 1 Exchange account, and I get a pretty reliable 50 hours on one charge. Which isn't bad, but is far off the 6 days I've seen reported elsewhere on this forum. (I realise that's an extreme case, as he hardly uses the phone at all in that time).

I use SetVSel at 25/300 40/600 50/800, and have sync turned off from 12am to 7am in the battery manager screen. I use wireless for about two thirds of the day and 2G for the rest. I'm probably on the phone making calls for about 30 minutes of the day and just sync email the rest of the time, I don't really play any games on it (though I've just discovered Crazy Snowboarding!). I have only two widgets running - Power Control and Battery Monitor Widget. No animated wallpapers.

How does that compare with your experiences of battery life on the Defy, using this ROM mod? If you have any tips to increase that 2 day battery life, let us know!
[Defy Android Development] freemanlowell:
Isn't this it? (from here, courtesy of Fritolays of course).

Edit: No, you're right. That's 155 and not 115. I haven't seen a 115 I don't think.
[Defy Android Development] fritolays:
rrhg just doesnt know what hes looking for, there is no v3.4.2-115.

The nandroid I have on http://m.cfa.aero/ is v3.4.2-155.

Also he is posting in the wrong thread.

rrhg you can find all sbf's available for the defy here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=966537
[Defy Android Development] superfastmonkey:
Geez, don't get too carried away by my use of the word astounding-mine isn't the version with the micro nuclear fusion reactor inside (6 days-what use the point if having such a great device if it is not used at all!) I would still be lucky to get a day, but I used about an hour calling, 1 1/2 hrs on bt audio, 6 hrs wifi, 3g all day and screen on for@ 3hrs and it hit 15% after 12hrs yesterday, had about 12hrs the day before with around half that use went it hit 51%.

My expectations aren't that high, but it is significantly better than I have been getting.

I am not using setvsel or setcpu etc-i have had trouble with it with other roms and want to test the stability of barebones for a week so first so I can differentiate the cause of issues. Lockups, fc's etc would always come at the most innooportune times.

The only I issue I have is the low battery 'yellow' kicks in at 50% and the red at 30%,it needs to have it's thresholds lowered.

This rom us so stable so far, it is almost ready to be put on some very non techie friends Defies.
[Defy Android Development] superfastmonkey:
I am in a very low reception zone at home, but I get 4 bars (my Htc Desire gets 1 bar) so geoff that time I do think it uses a lot of power amplifying the signal.
[Defy Android Development] fritolays:
Just to add to the battery point . . . .

The post quoting 6days stress's some points:

- vsel set to: 18-300 30-600 40-800

-- This is the big difference, these are very aggressive settings.

- dalvik.vm.heapsize=48m

-- Changing the vm heapsize wont really do anything for battery usage. The most this does is give more stable quadrant results. Also from my own benchmarking, anything above 40 (default is 30) really doesnt change anything.

- Connected to network for phone calls and to wireless lan. Only 2g.

-- 2g and wifi only do help a little.

- As seen in the graph, i didnt use the phone much, just the 6th day, used it for 5 hours installing apps in the market and draining out the last 20% juice.

-- This was the usage described; not really what I would call 'real-world'.

- Wifi sleep policy set to never.

-- The idea here being that you can manage (turn it on or off) better then the os.

- Doesnt use any widgets.

-- This is a big one - think of it like this; the more your phone needs to keep track of, ie: weather, music, facebook, toggle widgets . . . The more battery it uses. This is also why people may have very different battery usages; they dont take into account the 'personal' aspect that people impose on roms.

- Chinese build and battery saving apps (tasker, task managers, juice . . .).

-- The chinese build contributes only because it lacks the motoblur services present in other roms. While again apps that auto-kill or do something automatically use more battery because those process's are active and listening for input.

Hope this help clear things up a little.
[Defy Android Development] t830mc:
Fritolays thank you and keep the good work.

I would like to suggest one small but helpfull tweak for BB 1.5.

It has been done earlier so I supose it's not a big deal to implement.

I would like to propose power menu with hot reboot and reboot option in it.

Pays implement it i think.

It's really cool option.

What other ppl think about it?

Best regards
[Defy Android Development] freemanlowell:
My Defy did that too, but I've recently reset the battery statistics in recovery mode and now the thresholds seem to be back to normal.

I agree with that completely. My Defy with Barebones 1.4 is actually more stable and a good bit faster than my wife's stock UK 2.1 phone. Sooner or later she's going to get fed up with the lag on her phone and get a Barebones upgrade!
[Defy Android Development] lackyking:
Thanks for your hard work.
[Defy Android Development] freemanlowell:
That would be useful as a stock feature but what I've been doing - as I use SetVSel for CPU scaling anyway - is to use the "UltraFastReboot" option in the popup menu for that program, available in the notifications slide-down menu. This means I can reboot in about 8 seconds using just a click in the title bar.

Also, before installing SetVSel, I was using the reboot options in Custom Recovery which we all probably have installed anyway. There's a normal reboot option in there, so I had a shortcut on my main screen to that program and could reboot in, what, two clicks and a fifteen second reboot? Either of those options has worked well enough for me, but I realise that means using extra apps.
[Defy Android Development] breezasib:
Any news on the direction you will be going for 1.5 and what new sparkly bits you will be adding?

Had a play on cm7 beta3. Still think the Nordic sbf is the better option at this point.
[Defy Android Development] fritolays:
Heh, ya will be Nordic based; will have reboot option in power menu (not sure about hot reboot yet); sdcard r/w speed tweak; aosp lockscreen (assuming I hear back from dev's I've pmed); and more usual system tweaks.
[Defy Android Development] breezasib:
Sounds just the ticket. Estimated eta?
[Defy Android Development] fritolays:
Its my project for this weekend, so will be out Sunday night or at like 5am Monday - depends on when I finish it.
[Defy Android Development] breezasib:
Cool. Keep us updated on your progress. Good luck...

Now that ADB & CW recovery are available at boot it makes it so much easier to recover from mistakes :)
[Defy Android Development] slph:
What difference between current lockscreen and aosp? I thought it aosp already:)

Will you integrate 2nd init 0.5.1?

If you thinking about move Barebones to CM7, why not to port MiUi? :3
[Defy Android Development] fritolays:
Well not really; its kinda half assed atm only because all I did was modify the moto slider images to look like aosp. Code wise its still using the moto lockscreen.

One other feature of 1.5, no more need for a fixed sbf . . . :oP
[Defy Android Development] superfastmonkey:
How's the eta looking for 1.5? CM7 is better than expected, but is annoying me, gps failed on me when i needed it, battery life etc.... I don't want to reinstall bb1.4 only to have 1.5 out 2hrs later. .
[Defy Android Development] freemanlowell:
Thanks for the info, yes that clears things up. I don't expect to get six days life if I'm actually using the phone as much as I do, really anything over two days is great, and so far that's about what I'm getting with your ROM (until I discovered Drag Racing in the market a few days ago, and I suddenly had to recharge three times a day for the last few days of last week).

My last phone was a Windows Mobile 6.5 HTC Rhodium, and I'd generally get a good 2-3 days of moderate usage from that. Considering that the defy does so very much more than the Rhodium, 2 days is fine by me! :)
[Defy Android Development] anti-virus:
I'm waiting also for the next release.

Also is it possible to have the removed apps in an archive, or maybe just the default email client and motorola widgets(clock,etc.). Some of it I prefer more over other downloadable apps.

Thanks and looking forward for Barebones v1.5
[Defy Android Development] fritolays:
Should have clarified; will be up tonight/tomorrow morning EST.

2:40pm for me atm; so just depends when I finish.

Ya I'll put something up to cover all the moto apps.
[Defy Android Development] freemanlowell:
That's great news. And with the long weekend here in the UK I'll have plenty of time to try this new version out. Can't wait, thanks Fritolays!

That's a really good compromise. It's great to have a slimmed down base to customise up from, but I for one have found it tricky to find compatible stock apps to fill a few gaps. Doing it this way is the best of both worlds and will lead to a fantastic ROM, thanks!
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
okay i'm done enough to play with CyanogenMod7 for this moment,

because my gps is not working as it should, and battery durability was horrible (for me, 1 hour = 10%)

i'll wait for your release mate :)

i like your mod because your concept to barebone the stock os,

then let us to install apps we need :)

so we'll get just what we really need.

now is 1:30 EST (GMT -5)

waiting the countdown..
[Defy Android Development] fritolays:
lol Ya just writing the new documentation then I will upload; but it is done.
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
great news!

i didn't expect you are online right now, thanks mate :)
[Defy Android Development] dumrul:
Iam waiting to ;-)

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[Defy Android Development] anti-virus:
That would be great. I would love to use some of motorola widgets, it ain't that bad afterall(at least for me, hehe). and as of the moment the thread is being updated, really awesome mate, you're always on schedule.
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
GPRS Class Set To 12,

the default is ... ?
[Defy Android Development] fritolays:
Barebones v1.5 Launched

So version 1.5 is up; this time the focus was on network speeds.

Give www.mobilespeedtest.com a shot.

Also remember you dont need the Fixed SBF anymore . . . one less reboot now :oP

For any widgets/moto apps missing you can get them from this file; Removed.Stock.Apps.zip.

Just remember that they need to be copied to /system/app manually; and set the permissions, then reboot.

Default is 8 or 10 depending where you bought your phone; hardware is listed as 12.
[Defy Android Development] freemanlowell:
I've just seen your upload, I'm installing now. Thank you very much Fritolays, I'll be testing 1.5 all day today. I'm really looking forward to seeing what you've done, and an updated base 2.2.2 is a great start.

Edit: Well, I love it. It was an

excellent

idea to include better shell tools in the image, having a proper Bash shell is fantastic. Overall it's fast, seems rock solid stable, and (with AOPS Email.apk) does everything I need. Thank you Fritolays. It must be the middle of the night for you, so thank you very much for all your hard work!
[Defy Android Development] breezasib:
No AOSP lock screen :(

Will that still be coming at some point?

Might try and edit your zip to add bootmenu recovery 0.5.1.