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[EVO 4G General] backdown:
First of all, i have an Evo...before anyone says apple fanboy. Call me whatever you would like, however. So anyways, why do you guys hate on apple so much? They have way better products than anyone out there.

Take for example..motorola xoom. 800$ for dual core tablet. Se? 800? Why not just buy a really good laptop? The ipad 2 starts out at 499, for 16gb. It has a dual core chip, two cameras..anything you would want from a tablet computer. Granted it does run Apple's software, but you seriously can't hate on a device that is way better than any out there.

The pricing is better.

The product is better.

The aftermarket is better.

The design is better.

The battery life is WAY better.

And before someone says, you will just have to replace it in a year..so what? You have to replace anything within a year. One month after you buy something (especially on verizon!) you are already outdated. You have (Motorola, Samsung, Rim, and god knows who else making all these tablets). At least you have one company only making one design a year. They update their technology, and they make it good. Android phones get a new one every freaking month, and they are all looking the same. When you have different companies making different stuff, they shouldn't look the same. Can you say copycat much?

Get over yourselves.
[EVO 4G General] Mahlhavoc:
Just sayin...
[EVO 4G General] backdown:
My real penis is huge, as well.
[EVO 4G General] #Winning#:
I don't know why would set yourself up to get flamed on this because you know its gonna happen, but whatever floats your boat. I'm not gonna hate on you for liking Apple but I do think that you missed a few things.

-Android is more customizable since it is open source.

-The majority of Apples product line is not better priced than its competitor's.

-The specs on Apples stuff becomes outdated very quickly, many times you can buy something non-apple cheaper that is spec wise a lot better and it won't cost your near as much.

The only things that I can agree with you on is that yes Apple design is better, and also the support for their products is much better, but with a significant price difference usually.

I think it really comes down to preference in the end. IMHO people fall in love with Apple products because they are easier to use, there is not a lot of complication in doing some things. IOS vs. Android, you have the people who want to be able to have a smartphone and dig the ease of things in IOS, then you have Android which is more complicated but you can do a lot more with it. So you could call the IPhone the smartphone for "dummies" and then Android is for the more tech advanced crowd that likes to customize everything to how they want it. I am not trying to step on anyone here but, that is just how I see it and I think many others would agree.

PS- I am not here to argue about which is better, so if your gonna start trying to flame on me don't expect another post from me. :)
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
What's with all these random threads?

****, you're cluttering up the forums!
[EVO 4G General] funcrusher:
What a snorefest. I hope you guys have fun arguing the same **** over and over.
[EVO 4G General] agentphantom:
Mods, please close this thread so the troll can stop eating.
[EVO 4G General] backdown:
I am not trolling, i am pointing out good issues. I am sorry that you are such a android fanboy where you cannot take criticism and realize when you are wrong.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
not true.. because pricing has not officially announced.
[EVO 4G General] clamknuckle:
I don't get why people "hate" anything product related. If you don't want it, don't buy it. Saying anything sucks without owning one for a long period of time is just people being petty, immature, and possibly jealous.

It's one thing to be brand loyal, but don't be a moron about it. Think about if everything were the same. It would suck. The fact that there are different brands and items is a good thing. We should want more diversity, not less.
[EVO 4G General] neodorian:
I don't really *hate* Apple. I just don't like the way they do business. It doesn't appeal to me. They lie about the competition, present the worst case scenario as the norm, lock everything down, and charge a premium for cosmetic differences.

I could buy a Mac Pro laptop for $1200 or I could buy an Asus laptop with the same specs PLUS an iPad or Galaxy Tab for the same price. It's not worth it to me to have an aluminum case and a slightly better fit and finish. For some folks it is worth it. People buy Mercedes and BMW and that's their business. I just don't like the implication that unless you buy into their closed ecosystem you are stuck with something that is falling apart and complete garbage. There's always something in between the bargain basement crap and the fancy boutique offering.

Xoom has a bit higher specs than the iPad 2 but yeah, it's a bit overpriced. The thing is, it's not just Apple that prices high when something is new. The Viewsonic G-Tablet has almost identical specs to the iPad 2 and it's $400. As the market heats up there should be plenty of $500 tablets.

And they *will* do more to replace a laptop. They run all kinds of apps from any app store, not only the Apple or Google or whoever approved store. They don't block competing tech like Flash which is used on a ton of web apps. Not everyone wants to sacrifice capability just so things are idiot-simple.

This is the only time when I really get annoyed at Apple. They make certain simple things sound so hard in order to sell their products. Rather than spending 15 minutes to learn valuable computer skills, they'll just take away options and charge you for the privilege. Screw that. Paying extra so I don't have to think is not a good thing and the idea that it is a good thing irritates the crap out of me. People are way too eager to open their wallets to avoid using their brains as it is. On a personal level that annoys me.

If you think I'm too stupid to decide what apps to install or what kinds of things I want to run on the devices I can buy, then you can do without my stupid money.

Anyway that's all personal ranting. There's always a market for people with more cash than time or effort. It's legit. It's just not the only way to look at things and it's not for me. I like to bargain shop, compare features/specs, and go for bang to buck ratio. That's just not usually an option with Apple.

Besides all of my personal preferences, I don't really give a crap where other people spend their money. As long as there are options that suit me better I am happy. Tech geeks can argue about why they make the choices they do all day. It's our hobby to research and compare so we stand behind our decisions. It can get irrational and I'm no better. In the end it's just consumer electronics made by greedy corporations and they will probably all gain sentience and kill us all anyway.
[EVO 4G General] bhsvault:
^ This guy

Couldn't have said it better
[EVO 4G General] jstalford:
This. Although I am posting this from one of my 2 macbook pros. As a designer, I can't get used to Windows, but the above applies to the rest of their business.
[EVO 4G General] Bigjim1488:
Digging deep in my fail bank today. These threads are getting a little crazy today.
[EVO 4G General] joehunni:
****tards need to quit starting threads just to start ****.
[EVO 4G General] SolsticeZero:
I agree with this. Let's not forget this is an Evo forum, for discussion of the Evo. Let's not clutter it up with threads of non-relevant devices. There's an off-topic thread if you want to do that.
[EVO 4G General] akastixx:
Wow, so silly. You are a troll, speaking in absolutes, and without facts.

The xoom 32gb wifi + 3g that is 800 has a slightly larger screen, and is upgradeable to 4g for no additional cost.

The ipad2 32gb wifi + 3g is 730.

If you are arguing options, that is one thing, but it doesn't make sense to compare different storage sizes and complain about the price difference.

If you took 4g out of the picture, the xoom 32gb would be cheaper than 800. Both are dual core. They are both simarly speced and priced products.
[EVO 4G General] kamtsa:
Since you asked, yes Apple has good products and eco systems. What I personally don't like are their practices which are worse than anything Microsoft ever done.
[EVO 4G General] lehalter:
I hate Apple because they act as though customers are lucky to be holding one of their products in their hand instead of the company feeling lucky that they have the customer.
[EVO 4G General] joehunni:
The only thing that apple does that I'd like to see other manufacturers do themselves is make near-perfect hardware. The build quality of apple products is without rival and I wish HTC would attempt to come close to that.
[EVO 4G General] silverjack:
Don't get me wrong I love Google but at least their being locked down didn't get spyware and malware in the open app market to steal peoples identity.

Hack the planet!
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
And that's where you are wrong. Here let me explain.

1. Have hackers exploit the weak minded by uploading warez to an open market. At which point the app takes even more social engineering techniques to get it to fully install (accepting apps that have like 5000000 diff permissions)

or...

2. have a browser based heap overflow that effects all iphones from 4.2 and lower.

What you don't see being talked about is the fact that a malicious user can actually infect iphones through the web browser and allow a sideloaded application to run with root permissions as if nothing has happened. Let me refer you to jailbreakme:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/02/iphone_4_jailbreak/

The source code of jailbreakme was released not to long ago. After looking over it, it would take even a mediocre programmer to modify it in order to execute the script without user permission, and then instead of loading the jailbreak code, having it load a virus instead. Meaning ANYONE that visits the site and has a iphone 4.2 or lower WILL be exploited. At this point a person can simply load virus and gain root permissions without even fooling the user in doing anything (other than clicking the link).

To me, i would rather have an open market where .0001% of the apps are actually malicious, then have a browser based exploit code that could infect anyone that visits the page.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noojin:
I know that there is a fix that one can do here shown in the forums. However, I do not want to dissect the phone. My phone is not rooted but I am not sure if I feel confident to send it to HTC because I'm not sure what is considered a "loose fix" to them so they might just send it back to me without any fix and I would have to pay for the charge.

I call HTC about it and they said they would check the problem out because I am still under warranty. Has anyone else sent their phones to HTC to fix the loose hinge issue?
[G2 and Desire Z General] jon102034050:
it shouldnt really matter if the phone is rooted..... would it? I can't imagine that HTC would void the devices build warranty for software.
[G2 and Desire Z General] lainvalenajr:
Lol real simple just complain to your mobile carrier. Make them replace you current phone. What mobile carrier are you on? T-mobile replaces phones with the simplest problem
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noojin:
I got it from a 3rd party place though, not directly from Tmobile. Would I still be able to to so?
[G2 and Desire Z General] lainvalenajr:
Like what 3rd party? Since you didn't get it from t-mobile, t-mobile will say they won't reaplace and ask you to ask the place where you bought it from to fix it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] monkey hung:
What's the point in getting it replaced with another G2 that has the same hinge problem? They're all like that.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noojin:
Newer models weren't fixed? Thats too bad. Anyways, I got it cheap on ebay. Of course, I can not send it back for a replacement. I hinge isn't as loose as I have seen others on youtube. Its just lying down on the bed is an issue for me. I called HTC and said its still under warranty and can possibly fix this if it is an "issue" to them.
[G2 and Desire Z General] lainvalenajr:
Mine is not loose my friend and I had this phone for 3 month now
[G2 and Desire Z General] lainvalenajr:
Lol don't send it to htc your just wastiing your time but it won't hurt if your try tho.
[G2 and Desire Z General] wileykat:
Complete waste of time. I was emailing back and forth for about 3 months, got the issue escalated, then they came back and said NO, it is supposed to be like that. Ima have to resort to opening my baby up myself now,... just need to grow some bigger balls 1st !!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noojin:
hmmm. what I am confused about now is what the warranty covers? I can understand the warranty being voided if rooted. However, for accidental physical damages/ liquid(water) damage, what can you do with the warranty? I thought this would apply to phone defects. Tmobile even said that the early models of the G2 were defective. Its just weird that HTC won't fix it for you even if the issue is known from a larger perspective.
[G2 and Desire Z General] synpax:
Send it to someone on this forum willing to do the spring replacement for you.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Nckvrd:
Ok guys, I´ve read all the tutorials about flashing a original firmware. Used KDZ and the correct ROM, but´s something is going wrong.

The KDZ log program says: FINISHED, OK... the cellphone reboot´s normally, and start charging battery. Then, when I turn on the cellphone, it keeps showing "ANDROID" and dont start.

Any sugestions?:confused:

Sorry for my poor english.

Thx in advance.

FIXED

1) Install LG Mobile Software, from LG suport page. (B2CAppSetup.exe)

2) Connect your phone, USB

3) Run LG Mobile software updater, and update from V10a to V10b.

4) Have fun with your unbricked cellphone ;D
[G2 and Desire Z General] mstplbrg:
Hi!

I recently noticed that an area of my HTC Desire Z's Touch Screen is dead. It might be related to me dropping the phone accidently about 1 meter on the ground, but I didn't immediately notice the effect.

You can find a video of my symptoms here:

youtube.com/watch?v=bHB41nXtwns

(Sorry, I can't use a direct link since this is my first post here)

Which part of the phone could be defect, according to the symptoms? The digitizer? Even more? Are there maybe any workarounds I could try to get it working again?

What I tried so far is turning the phone off, removing the battery, turning it back on (no difference). Also, I tried with and without a charger connected and with and without touching the phone's body to establish a common ground level (so not the usual touch screen problems here).

Thanks in advance!
[G2 and Desire Z General] burtcom:
If there's a screen protector on, try removing it and see if it behaves differently.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mstplbrg:
Hi,

There is no screen protector on it. The device is unmodified with regards to hardware / accesoires.
[G2 and Desire Z General] brfield:
It could be a loose ribbon cable, tear down the phone and reattach the cable that goes to the screen, or call in a warranty.
[G2 and Desire Z General] lainvalenajr:
I advice not to do this... first call your mobile carrier. Tell them about your issue, try to get it replace if possible. Tear downs should only be done if that's the last option you have...
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
just get a replacement and dont tell them what happened
[G2 and Desire Z General] mstplbrg:
I didn't buy the phone from a carrier but from amazon.co.uk. I wanted to avoid using warranty because it's a lot of trouble (phone needs to be sent to the UK, i need to S-ON and restore the original ROM/recovery firmware first, phone will probably be away for some weeks).

As it's only a minor issue, I would try to repair it myself (I'm confident that I can do that). What I am looking for is just a hint with which I can confirm that it's just the digitizer so I don't order the wrong replacement part and have to open/close the phone several times.
[G2 and Desire Z General] burtcom:
I'd recommend against that, as its still under warranty. Its too easy to mess something up when you do-it-yourself, and you would void the warranty.
[Touch GSM General] rootfixxxer:
Hello

I have with me a ELF that doesn't boot, only have the Smart Mobility logo in the screen. The ELF was given to me by a friend to change the display, before this, he had the ELF in a store for repairing, after 3 months they deliver the phone and said that they couldn't repair the phone, the problem was a broken display...

So i think they replaced the main board for other one because the phone worked fine before the broken display. So i need to know if i can get the IMEI from the phone?
[Touch GSM General] rootfixxxer:
No one... :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grobie.der.reisende:
Hi there,

yesterday I removed the battery of my mobile to replace it with

a charged one. Since then the phone is "dead". I cannot start it

anymore. No reactions on pluggin in the charger, no charging symbol,

nothing. Also no reactions on 3-button-mode.

Does anybody have any ideas what might have happend?

Thanks for any support,

Grobie
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sean2476:
try a long press on the power button. sometimes it will kick in after about 30 seconds to a minute. It did for me once
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kingybear:
Did you try putting your old battery back in?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] An Droid:
Double check battery contacts/pins on phone to make sure that they haven't been damaged?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grobie.der.reisende:
Thank you guys!

I do have 3 (original Samsung) batteries and an external charger.

The batteries are all charged and in good shape. I don't think this

is the problem. In addition the phone stays "dead" even when connected

to the AC charger. No charging symbol.

The contacts are all fine, no damages. I checked that out.

Long press of power button (and 3-buttons) also did not work.

:( :( :(

Any further suggestions?

Cheers,

Grobie
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shahadat:
If the battery is faulty, the phone wont turn on even when the charger is connected. Replace the battery with the one you got when you purchased the phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grobie.der.reisende:
See my previous post.. I do have THREE original Samsung batteries.

Of course I tested the phone with all of them, but the SGS just doesn't

want to kick in.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttf:
Sorry to hear that,

Are you 100% positive that the battery charged with the external charger are fully charged? (maybe the charger himself is dead?) A voltmeter should assure that.

If the external charger and batt are ok, try to let your SGS without any batt in during 24hrs and see what you get.

Otherwise be ready to rma it.

GL.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grobie.der.reisende:
Yes, the batts are 100% okay, I put them into another phone, they work fine.

I'll check out your last suggestion and let you know.

Thanks so far!

Cheers,

Grobie
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tehpriest:
Remove MicroSD card and SIM then while holding the on button replace the battery.
[G Tablet General] adca14:
Hey I was just wondering if it is possible to gain the same function as the iPad 2 has with its proximity sensor with our gtablets since we have a light sensor?

I'm not sure if it has already been asked before or if the devs are working on something similar but to me it would just make our already amazing tablet even greater :)
[G Tablet General] baconrocket:
I'm not 100% sure, but I think a proximity sensor requires both a transmitter and a receiver. I assume IR.
[G Tablet General] y2k-inc:
I think iphone & ipad use light sensor to make a trick on the proximity sensor, if the light get completly darken it will assum that the device is close to a hard surface, ie: the face in the case of the iphone, so i assume that it will be posible to do so with a little software trick ... btw, anyone know which ROM take the advantage of this light sensor setting in use? don't see it on Vegan ..
[G Tablet General] copc:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=978068 :eek:
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deke997:
After searching all over the internet i could only find one flash 2.1 that actually worked on the hero.. http://www.androidpit.com/en/androi...tall-Flash-10-1-On-Android-2-1-Eclair-Devices

BUT.. it only works on stock for some reason.. could we get this in cynanogenmod?

Screenshots Below:

The hulu, kongregate, and sony pictures websites will not load those main screen advertisements unless you have flash 10.1 or higher. also included is the flash checker from adobe's website -http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/-
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] il Duce:
I think you mean flash 10.1, lol, anyway, there are some sense roms that have flash lite, but not 10.1 that I know of, can you CONFIRM this works on your phone? I don't really care about flash, just curious. My memory tells me flash and aosp don't work/haven't yet worked, and the only time there was flash lite in a heroc ROM was on sense based roms....
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SammyM00782:
I think you're right. Any time I've ever seen Flash 10x was in a sense ROM and I kind of miss it being I run GB. Personally I'd like to know if this works as well and what ROM you're using this on.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] user7618:
I think he's looking for a way to get flash 10.1 on cm7, he’s not running it.

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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Gingerbread-on-Hero action here!
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deke997:
yes i meant 10.1.. and yes i can confirm this works on my hero!! only oon stock though for some reason. it doesnt work on cm7 or cm6 or fresh but it does work on stock..
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deke997:
yea i want it on GB too. this works perfectly BUT only on STOCK :(
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poashll:
Flash 10.1 cannot run on our Arm6 processors. Flash lite is in some sense ROMs. It has been discussed in depth and you should be able to search and find the threads on it.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] user7618:
Looks like they just confirmed it runs on stock 2.1, and last I checked, flashing a rom does not change your processor.

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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Gingerbread-on-Hero action here!
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deke997:
well, seeings how it is working on my phone.. i am politely calling u wrong :)
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stayclean:
Works on your phone. Running a stock 2.1 rom. As you can see in the discussion in the link you posted, only people with HTC phones running stock/Sense roms can run it. Flash Lite only works with Sense. Enjoy.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deke997:
Look at the screenshots dude! This isn't flash lite, it's flash 10.1.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poashll:
Beings as how you do not seem to want to do the searches:

This has Flash 10.1 lite, again a Sense rom:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=9328771#post9328771

However, there won't be a pure aosp rom running flash because of the ARM6 processor. Here is a great read. If I remember right they even discuss why/how it is able to work in your 2.1 Sense ROM: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=806410&highlight=adobe

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=866262&highlight=adobe+flash
[G Tablet General] bstirling2307:
Howdy all,

I am defecting to the Xoom. Don’t get me wrong I am very happy with my Gtab, but I got it as stop gap till a 3.0 tablet came out.

So for $350 OBO you can get: gtab with screen protector on it, m1 case, charger, dock, and sears case.

All are in new condition

Edit: including my 8gb SD
[G Tablet General] jpustin:
im in Australia,

how much would it cost to send on over here?

Sydney is the city.
[G Tablet General] secfincorp:
is it still available, will you take Paypal?

Let me know thanks
[G Tablet General] jpustin:
realy interested