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[Atrix 4G General] pfaction:
Oops, sorry. I was just so frustrated but now I'm decently happy.
[Atrix 4G General] mister_al:
Just a thought

Please don't get the Samsung Galaxy II S, at least not right at release. Think about a phone that's been out on the market for a while and has a lot of the bugs and issues worked out.
[Atrix 4G General] link12245:
Why are you going to a galaxy s 2? Most of your complaints are with android not the atrix. The 'phantom data' your talking about is probably just a sleep setting with your wifi, the power button was necessary for the fingerprint scanner (which works awesomely). Your just an average iPhone user, your phone has to do everything for you, and you hate choices. Enjoy mediocrity.
[Atrix 4G General] codebyter:
Hahahaha, do what he said :)
[Atrix 4G General] anirudh15891:
so i am curious to know.. if i return my atrix is inspire 4g the way to go.. ?
[Atrix 4G General] Clienterror:
The inspire has its own issues. Bad/mediocre battery life is a major one. Although a plus is its currently running at 1.8 ghz, and its got cm support which the atrix will probably never get.
[Atrix 4G General] FNugget:
Yeah, I'm with the other people that you should go back to iPhone. I think your first two issues were with Android in general, as you so erroneously analogized Android with Windows since it's more like Unix than anything else.

Android definitely requires a lot of set up. I would even have to agree that the menu options seems somewhat disorganized, especially with the "hidden" menu button options when you're ALREADY IN THE MENU.
[Atrix 4G General] hadoyle:
Please go back to papa steve
[Atrix 4G General] anirudh15891:
isn't it too late to get iPhone 4 now?? i think at&t does not have various android options like Verizon does... which bothers me.. i mean At&t gets inspire4g where as Verizon gets the better version that is Thunderbolt.. I don't get it.. i thunderbolt came to At&t i wouldn't think about anything and just get that one.. it has all the features and its awesome looking... Inspire on the other hand is just like the Desire HD.. still HTC sense is beasty...

I mean I wanna know whether most of the people who are returning their Atrix.. what are they going for instead.. are they still sticking with At&t or changing to another phone... which i don't see much options other than Aria, iPhone, Inspire, few Blackberry and the extreme late comer Windows phone 7?
[Atrix 4G General] Clienterror:
If people are complaining about Inspire battery life just wait for the Thunderbolt battery life.
[Atrix 4G General] pegasus912:
If you thought the atrix was bad, then you definitely don't want Samsung, they are the worst android phone manufacturer. Don't ever expect an update with them and if you get one it will probably brick your phone. The only thing that's made my Samsung vibrant worthwhile is the amazing developer community who has made the phone 1000 times better than Samsung's software development team.

End of rant.
[Atrix 4G General] anirudh15891:
yea heard its gonna be awful as well.. in fact they delayed the release cause the battery was just awful.. well aside that at least it is quite current compared to the inspire.. i mean there is much difference but still it looks and i am guess would feel better.. also it has front facing camera which is not a big deal in general but at least it is included for future use ..maybe. and it has a kick stand.

BTW is it too late now to go for EVO 4g?
[Atrix 4G General] anirudh15891:
since you have a desire.. hows the battery life in yours? does it at least last a day or a bit less than that? cause isn't it based the same for the inspire./..

the thing is i initially returned my inspire cause i wanted a better spec phone .. and i thought the Atrix would get rooted soon and also the bootloader will get unlocked.. but after spending days on these forums it doesn't look like anything is gonna happen with the bootloader.. obviously it is good to wait.. i guess.. for another 22 days for me..lol but now i am thinking to return this device and getting the inspire back... :confused:..

no idea what to do..
[Atrix 4G General] anirudh15891:
"re upgrade"

i got a general question.. for AT&T can i get my upgrade possibility back? like return the phone and get my upgrade back instead of using it for another device.. will i definitely get the upgrade back? Kinda new to AT&T so.. not sure
[Atrix 4G General] milk242:
You should be able to, but from my past experience, I've always had to contact CSR (just a hassle) . You should also make sure they roll back your contract.
[Atrix 4G General] anirudh15891:
earbuds remote

i got another general question not sure its the right thread but.. i have a pair of earbuds with remote and volume and answer keys which does not seem to work on my atrix.. is there anyway to make those keys work.. cause when some one calls it doesnt use the built in mic... i think... anyone having the similar issue?
[Atrix 4G General] milk242:
Check out the Atrix accessories sub-forum on android central for some more discussion on this. (sorry can't post links yet)
[Atrix 4G General] anirudh15891:
hey do you guys think if I return the atrix its better to get the upgrade back rather than go for the inspire. i mean i dont think AT&T got the right phones yet.. or the phones we have is not exactly what we want.. if you guys knows what I mean.

So what do you think??
[Atrix 4G General] FNugget:
Anirudh15891: You can make your own decisions, you know. I haven't heard any time tables for phone releases, so I'm going to bet they're more than a month down the road. It all depends on how long you can wait.
[Atrix 4G General] G1-8701:
honestly, u just gotta give the phone some time, it's a great phone, and once the devs crack the bootloader, the people that stuck with the phone(like me) are gonna be sooooo happy, nothing that i've experienced is really wrong with the phone to make me wanna return it, i don't see why people are(unless the device they got was defective, but why not just get another one) this phone has too much potential to give up on it so quick
[Atrix 4G General] Smith7018:
I returned mine for an iPhone 4. I needed the security in knowing it would be updated to newer software and Apple updates on day one :( Good luck Atrix fans!
[Atrix 4G General] kakwvu:
Samsung isn't at fault, US carriers are. Look at how fast foreign carriers are getting the updates while AT&T/Verizon sit on them (for multiple phones). They do the same thing with Blackberry updates.

The obvious reason not to get that phone would be that it is another Android device that you won't like. The hardware will be different, but the software will be mostly the same. However, I do prefer TouchWiz over MotoBLUR.
[Atrix 4G General] pceasar:
Random thoughts

Ok went through the thread and since I don't own an Atrix I can't truly comment on OP statement, but I have friends that have the Atrix and they've had no problems. I guess I should be empathetic to people with limited data plans, and granted android should use wifi only if its on but from my perspective who gives a care which data stream its using for say ads or something at least those with 2Gigs of data or in my case a grandfather iPhone plan, in all honesty I find this complaint weird just doesnt seem like this is the case on my android phone anyways.

Next, if you are an iPhone lover just leave quietly we don't care about your love for monotony, I'm tired of arguing this stuff all the time iPhones and iPads aren't perfect they have sticky home buttons and crap happens, they reboot randomly after you've loaded quite a bit of data too, not all the time but the point is, I've seen it happen. Many seem to assist apple in denying they have issues, "Wired" magazine just did an article on the crappy hardware in the iPad2 wake up people no one is perfect and definitely not apple so crap happens, even in apple. Since apple has a vested interest they just do a good job at keeping it quiet or maybe to tell you "hey, don't hold it like that" or "put this bumper around it" or "what sms bug?" Also note that iOS 4.3 will be released for GSM carriers only aka ATT, there's some fragmentation for ya Commandante/Excellency Steve Jobs

On a Samsung Galaxy S II, I had the captivate sold it quick!! stay the heck away from Samsung until they start taking care in what they manufacture, regardless of software updates some of their hardware stunk, after I read reviews from independent sources I may consider them but they are the primary reason why many potential iPhone converts went back to apple, the screen was beautiful the execution was horrendous and thankfully due to having other friends with Android I tried a different device, I'm never going back to apple, I avoid dictatorships every chance I get.

Regarding the Atrix and whether to keep it, I think its a beautiful phone, sleek and good feel to it, I am not one for loading various roms on my personal phone because I'm just paranoid, not because of stability but because I don't know what they put in the various roms. I love the dev community and heck I load roms on my play around devices just not my personal everyday with financials information phone. Maybe one day I will but what I mean to say is I don't need the bootloader unlocked to enjoy the Atrix.

Just remember, ALL ANDROID DEVICES ARE NOT CREATED EQUAL, same goes for all android manufactures, some are made for cost and customization and some are made for the big time premium devices that they are, its like toyota, scion and lexus
[Atrix 4G General] Rred:
I must be in an alternate universe.

"1) Hemorrhaging data with WiFi on....I literally had to hunt down the things that were not using WiFI when connected to my home WiFi."

I had no problem checking the phone out with the main setting option NOT to use cellular data. Convenient that there's one button to check to disable cellular data.

" If the Android OS is like this, I literally do not want it."

Ah, so here you are badmouthing the Atrix, when you don't know what's Atrix and what's Android.

"2) EMail won't work....Gmail won't load," Sounds like you're doing something very basic very wrong, because it configured and worked fine here. But, everything Android requires you to do things in a certain way. Like every other OS. Ah, maybe you should buy the next phone from a seller who offers to set it up for you before you leave the premises. A little f2f time really helps speed these things up.

"email app after rooting." Woe! You went out and dumped the factory load and rooted it, before you even figured out how to make the phone work? Rooting isn't black magic but wouldn't you want to find out how the phone works, before you did something that MIGHT break some of it?

"3) lmfao at design. Power button on back." And here I thought it was far more practical than the usual, like Samsung, where the power button is opposite the volume keys. Most of us hold things with opposed digits, so the typical design makes it easy to shut the phone when you're squeezing the volume keys. Sure, this power key is where it won't get pressed by accident. DUH, the idea is that you turn it on and LEAVE IT ON, 24x7x365, just like a wired phone. I call it a marvelous place for the power button.

You're not wrong, the phone's not wrong. It just obviously isn't the right phone for you. Or the right phone OS. Hope you find one you like better, try a Blackberry.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
anybody know how to properly setup an airave from sprint? i have a standard broadband cable modem from comcast and a netgear wireless router i use. the airave manual says to directly connect my cable modem cat5 to the airave. then use one of the ports on the back of the airave to connect my router. i did this and i get no internet connection at all on my pc. :mad:

so i instead hooked up my cable modem to my router "like usual" and then hooked the airave to one of the ports on my router. bang, i have internet again and the airave seems to be ok other than im still waiting for the mobile led to connect. sprint told me it could take 2-3 hours? i already had to reset the airave because the led indicates a hardware error of some sort "flashes amber in color".

so my question is, do i have this set up properly or what? :confused:
[EVO 4G General] glennpettit:
I've seen it take as long as 4 hours to register. be sure it also has clear line of site to the sky or atleast the GPS annt. with Verizon the device wouldn't register with out a gps location. Also you might need to open a port or 2 to allow data and voice to travel through your router.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
the airave is near my balcony slider window. the gps antenna is attached to the window itself. what do you mean by open a port on my router? how do you do that per say? you mean not have it blocked by the hardware firewall?
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
Dont connect it directly!! the air rave fails as a router!!! i got half normal speeds... if you really wanted to... what you have to do is power cycle your modem after connecting the air rave to it and your computer to the air rave. Yes, it took forever the first time for me too.

Oh... by the way they may be down right now... might be your problem. I know mine just stopped working.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
my modem is plugged into my netgear router. then the 1st router port goes to my pc and port 2 is for the airave. that's what i wanted to make sure i set up correctly.

so should i go into my router setting and open port two for the airave then?
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
I didn't need to open any. You probably don't either.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
thanks, i just wondered why the mobile led started flashing amber instead of green or going a solid green?
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
figures, first 3 towers down for 4 weeks and now this is down too? what the hell!
[EVO 4G General] wase4711:
Sprint recommends you set it up BEFORE the router, but you dont really need to.

Try this.

Reset your network; unplug everything, and, plug your modem in first, wait until its fully active, then plug your router in, wait until that is fully active, then plug the airave in.

As soon as you get the flashing amber light on the Airave, (assuming you do), then do a hard reset by sticking a paperclip or straight pin into the reset hole on the back on the airrave, holding it in for at least 30 seconds, then release it, and see if the airave connects.

give it at least an hour after you do that to connect the first time...

If that doesn't work, either the tower is down in your area, or you have a bad unit.

I assume you are using the newer model, not the one from a few years ago...
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
hmm... most modems you should connect what ever your connecting to it then power cycle it..
[EVO 4G General] wase4711:
not with this gadget you dont..

The air rave is also a router, and, for a router to work properly, the modem its connected to has to grab an IP address FIRST; If you have it all connected and then restart everything at the same time, the air rave and the modem are fighting to grab the first IP available, and neither one will succeed.

I've done this procedure many times for the air rave, and it works well..
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
its working fine now, fast downloads too! wish i had this outside my home. and yes i only have this unit because my area has 3 towers down for the past 4 weeks. service is horrid otherwise.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
The two routers i use wont grap an ip if i dont powercycle the modem after connecting them
[EVO 4G General] hiphopgamer26:
did u get it for free? what did u say to get it?
[EVO 4G General] dmoses1969:
I am getting 2 of them

I called Monday about issues I have been having in my town and while talking with Tech support and Retentions I asked if they would wave the ETF on all my lines since my service wasn't that great. They offered me an airrave for free and all fees waived. I asked if I could have 2 of them? One for my home and one for my parents. A supervisor got on the phone and after explaining the issues she said sure, you can have 2 of them free of charge and with no monthly fees.
[EVO 4G General] TF1984:
Dude it's so easy to get one. All you have to do is call customer service, then ask for To terminate your service.

The rep will try to go back and forth, no reason just tell them to transfer you. They will send you to customer retentions dept. The person will ask why you want to terminate... you say something like this...

Well I haven't been getting any coverage at home and this is my only phone. My neighbor has ATT and they had to get some strange signal boost device or something, anyway I am probably going to switch to verizon because they have really great service on my street.

BAM! the agent will offer you the airave, FO FREE, and will be so happy that they were able to "convince" you to stay on board. It's a win for everyone.

***What will not work is to call and ask them to send you one for free, you have to let them believe they fixed the problem... hehehehe.
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] SeenNotScene:
Hey everyone,

I'm very interested in enrolling in Full Sail's Mobile Development degree program, which is completely online. The cost alone is enough to make me cringe a bit (around $65,000) and I am curious if anyone has any *helpful* insight on the program to help me decide if this is the right direction to go.

Thanks!
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] jasongw:
I think you're better off hitting up a community college, learn basic programming for cheap, and download the free tools for mobile development (most platforms offer free SDK's) and practice on your own. Seriously, you could go to a prestigious school like UCLA (I will be, starting next year) for HALF that.
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] SeenNotScene:
Good luck with that. Though as I said before, I'm aware that it is expensive.

Any past or present students that actually attended Full Sail care to share their opinions or experiences?
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] yglup:
I too am interested and currently looking at this school for this program. And that is high as hell! Does anyone know of any online programs or schools near Pittsburgh, Pa thats credible but in a more affordable range?
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] mengfei:
any grads here from Full Sail's Mobile Development degree program? how is you developing skills & have you landed a good job? :cowboy:
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] thisisnitwit:
I know 2 graduates from Full Sail - different areas of interest, one for audio engineering and one for graphic design. Neither of them work in the profession they went to school for. Full Sail is notorious for over-burdening their students with costs.
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] lufc:
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions &

Read the Forum Rules Ref Posting

Thanks ✟

Moving to Q&A
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] Arysta:
Full Sail is a for profit university. You really, really want to stay away from these. They're far more costly than a non-profit, and tend to not have the best reputation. I also doubt you'd get any more out of it than just going through a regular IT program that allows you to to put some focus in mobile development & java. Do some research on not for profit online degrees if you want to stay online.
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] mengfei:
^ thanks for your inputs guys!

can you recommend any online school/ org about "Mobile Development Course" ?
[HD2 General] geonsteelers:
It just died.. COMPLETELY DIED.

Nothing works now...

so is it bricked?

if so, any solutions.?,,, have looked around, but saw posts saying fix it.

If its broken.. i'll just try to play someone on craigslist. :D
[HD2 General] Skellyyy:
A little more info? Do you have HSPL installed? MAGLDR? What were you doing when it shut off? Try holding the volume down button then pressing the power button and see if it enters SPL/HSPL.
[HD2 General] geonsteelers:
yep i have MAGLDR installed.. i believe i was trying to install a radio thats not for TMOUS... which i just noticed after I've done it.. yep i tried everything.. wont even charge
[HD2 General] geonsteelers:
i have HSPL installed too.. it was on a windows mobile 7 which i tried to put it back to 6.5 so i cud get android
[HD2 General] FerretAD:
You lied - It didn't just die !

You screwed it up !

Good luck with that !
[HD2 General] T-Macgnolia:
Ok you had to be trying to flash something and it went wrong/haywire, or your battery just died on you and you need yo plug it up to your charger to be able to turn it on. I personally hope it is just the battery needs charged.

Anyway if you were flashing something what was it? We need spacifics like what ROM it was and what radio it was flashing. The radio not being compatible is mainly what causes bricked HD2's. I also hate to tell you but if your HD2 will not even go into boooader then yes it is bricked.
[HD2 General] geonsteelers:
thanks for the help, but i decided to trade someone for a different phone. thanks :D
[HD2 General] T-Macgnolia:
Did you get it working?...... If not and you are going to trade it that is coldl man lol.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jakbjak:
I stared getting some screen issues.. I'd boot the phone and it would vibrate and make the booting noise but nothing would appear on screen. Once it fully booted if i pressed the lock button a few times the screen would come on but with everything inverted and distorted (wish I'd a picture). Explained this to htc support and I eventually posted my phone to them. (they couldn't collect it after 3 weeks of "computer system errors, so they eventually told me to post it to them because they're system wouldn't accept my address) So now, 2 weeks later I get my phone back, still the same firmware version on it (which was untouched stock, no root or s-off) with the exact same issue. I checked the software version and they didn't even flash a new update to it, it still had the original 2.2. The warranty wasn't void because the sheet they sent back with it said the phone had been repaired, but not what they had done.

Do I send it again? wait what could be another month? I'm not looking of sympathy, I just want to know if anyone else has had similar issues. After spending 500 euro on a phone I'd like it to work :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] brfield:
Call them up and *****, their service needs to up to par or beyond if they want to be able to charge that much for a phone. Have them send you a new one, and then you send yours.
[G2 and Desire Z General] lainvalenajr:
Huh what t-mobile does is diffrent. They will send you a replacement then you just send you phone
[G2 and Desire Z General] brfield:
He said euros, so I assume he is not on t-mobile, he needs to go to htc and complain.
[G2 and Desire Z General] lainvalenajr:
Ah I see... well he should call his mobile carrier
[G2 and Desire Z General] FinHD:
Why would he call the mobile carrier? They at best just ship it forward IF it was theirs to begin with. You can buy the Desire Z from many places, not just from operators!
[G2 and Desire Z General] lainvalenajr:
Wow lol chill. That was my personal opinion. With t-mobile you call them if you call htc they will just say talk to your carrier. You want me to reword my self? Well just put I suggest you call your carrier they might be able to send you a replacment phone. So don't start triping haha wow
[G2 and Desire Z General] jakbjak:
yeah I'm in Ireland, I bought it off a website off contract. I emailed the website just there to see if they'll send me a replacement. bleh :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] jakbjak:
and at this point I might just call htc and *****, already spent like 2 hours on the phone to them over the last few week :p I'm almost friends with them now...
[G2 and Desire Z General] jakbjak:
Just off the phone with htc, apparently the tick sheet with the phone info lost some details along the way. The problem on one sheet was that it was constantly rebooting, and on the other on it was display issues. So instead of fixing the display they replaced the motherboard and sent it back... they're collecting it again monday...