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[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gastrella:
good morning i'm here to ask you wich of this two phones is better: hd2 with windows phone 7 or lg optimus 7 thank so much

can some one also share the hardware specificatopn of this two cellulars thanks
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Avandor:
Select the 2 models, press compare:

http://www.hellkom.co.za/cellphones/compare.php
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ventu89:
HD2... Android, wp7, wm 6.5... ubuntu, a great community behind... one of the best phones ever seen...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MartyLK:
If you want a genuine WP7 experience, the LG is the way to go. The HD2 is the world's best phone for a lot of things, but it can't give you a permanent WP7 solution. Without a key, you can't use the Live features and they are foundation of the OS...Market, Zune, Live hub and so forth.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doministry:
I admire HD2 as a real king of phones.

But for a real, supported WP7 experience get LG.

And this phone rocks too. Absolutely.

Almost no flaws. Pictures in low light could be sharper.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gastrella:
i made this question because i've got an htc hd2 with A lot of optional (3 batteries a doking station 8 gb of microsd 2 gel protector ecc ) and one of my friend offerme an optimus 7 plus 50€ for it ... do you think i've to Accept the offert ?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MartyLK:
If it is the 1024 Leo, no! If it is the 512 Leo, yeah.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pillsburydoughman:
Do not get LG optimus 7. It's looks solid but has crappy hardware. I've sent mine back twice and it's still buggy as hell. I switched to a different carrier and got the samsung focus and desperately trying to get rid of the LG.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] megagprime:
i have the lg optimus 7 and the camera sucks bad on lg, especially with the flash. other than that its a very solid phone
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gastrella:
which is the bug of lg?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PieOfJustice:
Well its still hard to say but the touchscreen can be ridiculously unresponsive at times. Now this seems to happen in certain situations like when changing the volume to ringer or attempting anything in ie. You should know that the only way to wake the device is rto use the small button at the top. I am going back today to check about the screen but other wise I am very happy with it.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DavidinCT:
HD2, No question... It's not every phone where you can run WM 6.5 AND WP7 on....the best of both worlds...

If they made it on a CDMA network (CDMA coverage is better than GSM in my area), It would be the only phone I would buy.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
if you want a WP7 device, trade. Unless you're a developer the HD2 id factorably worse than devices designed for the OS they run.

Also extra batteries are useless when you have a hard case on the phone. Most people could care less if you have them because it's a pain in the rear to remove an otterbox or body glove case all the time to swap batteries.

Hell, swapping batteries period is a pain, imo. Lol.

Sent from my HD7 using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MartyLK:
I gotta disagree there. That isn't the experience I have. In fact I say it's "factorably" better than devices running OEM OSes. I've used a number of genuine Android phones such as the Nexus S, Evo and DesireHDs and the HD2 running their ROMs is generally smoother and just as fast. The Nexus S ROM especially is better running on the HD2...at least it feels better.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
Worse quality screen than even the HD7 and Evo 4G. Small battery (same size as HD7). Has issues failing due to MoBo issues after some time (overheating, freezing, and random chain-resets, etc.) <- this is the main reason most T-Mobile reps try to steer people away FROM the HD2, and why they do the same for the HD7 (the devices are too similar with similar naming, so they assume the HD7 will have the same issues). Camera is not competitive. Hardware buttons on the front get sort of loose on some phones after heavy use.

The build materials are quite good. The specs are rather coincidental IRT WP7 :P

But there are better phones.

The HD7 is good as a developer device because it can be hacked to run 3-4 smartphone OSes, meaning as a developer you do not have to buy a new phone to develop for WP7 or Android if you're moving off of Windows Mobile.

But the newer devices designed for their respective OSes are better devices.

Yes, Carrier Branded devices offer suffer from performance issues due to bloatware and carrier modifications, but I don't agree that an HD2 outperforms a Nexus S, or even a Nexus One. Sorry.

I do have 3 different phones (HD2, HD7, Vibrant), so I've done this comparison - side by side, already.

In the case of Android devices, they tend to come with large internal storage in addition to an SD Card Slot (not the Nexus S, though), which give them yet another advantage over the HD2. It has basically just a 1GB ROM and an SD slot. Sorry, but I'll take a 16GB NAND (12.6GB free) with an 8GB cheap Class 4/6 SD Card over going out and spending $150for a good quality name brand 32GB SD Card (not the cheap knockoffs everyone is getting from eBay, etc. having an SD fail on you sucks esp when you have tons of data on it).

But whatever floats your boat.

The HD2 is only like $49.99 on contract these days so if you want one that badly, then just buy a new one and ETF the line later. If you sell your old phone, you may even come out a bit ahead...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gastrella:
ok thanks for the answare ... but i read in a lot of forum that lg optimus 7 is a bad phone because it freez and restart randomly it have a bad quality cameraand the screen a lot of time not responding .... all this bad thing is absent on my hd2 only the camera is bad when i use the flash ...

this is why i'm not sure to make the trade

is it true ?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MartyLK:
No need to be sorry. You have your opinion, we all have our own opinions. But I am speaking from experience. Have you used a Nexus S?

Exactly. The only consistent problem with the HD2 is the green hue of the camera image with flash.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thesecondsfade:
I don't see that as a big problem unless you're printing pictures... in which case Photoshop easily fixes the hues.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] z33dev33l:
I'll always suggest a pure WP7 experience over a tainted one. The HD2 is similar to the HD7 only less responsive and HTC's WP7 devices have been less than impressive as is. So yeah, 100 percent go LG.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doministry:
Complete bull****.

I run LG Optimus 7 all the time and it's almost bug free.

Never had any problem with unresponsive touch screen. Restarted ONCE through the whole usage cycle.

And it's my main phone..

Camera is good, it's not stellar. Yes in low light has some sharpness problem but it shows real colours.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
Some HD2s also have pink tinting without flash...

Depends on the device though I would not expect later more comprehensive updates to make it to the HD2, and Microsoftt is cracking down on allowing people to activate them as well...

Sent from my HD7 using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Titus_Andronicus:
My Optimus 7 has a really bad GPS if you want if for more than automotive navigation or general geolocation (I use my phone for geocaching, and the Optimus 7 is unusable) (or maybe it is the OS). Don't know about HD2.

And, ya, the Optimus 7 produces blueish pictures when using the flash. Something is not quite right with the white balance.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PieOfJustice:
I find it's only bad in certain apps, mainly all the geocaching ones. The Stock maps app find me no problem even when walking around the city.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwristews:
hi there, anyone knows if there is any apps that can send sms through wifi to other phone ? if anyone knows any ? please guide...

thanks :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pietplezier:
Guess not.. install whatsapp and txt free to other whatsapp users trough your internet :)
[Desire HD General] silverback88:
It fell out of my pocket while biking.

Chipped the metal case :(

Has anyone else dropped their phone (I mean serious drops)?
[Desire HD General] Andy:
Fortunately not, my friend did drop his iPhone 4 off a bridge whilst taking a photo. A sharp gust of wind blew it out of his hand.

I was laughing for about 2 days.
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
Yup, dropped mine a couple of weeks ago. Bit of a chip on the top right corner of the case by the screen and a bit of a scuff on the bottom right corner of the sim cover.

Was dropped from quite a height onto a hard pavement, so I'm pleased it didn't come off a lot worse!
[Desire HD General] mjt:
Dropped mine too. I was busy attaching it to the windscreen for use as satnav, and my wife called me to help get our son into his car seat (after all this time she STILL can't do it...) I went to assist, but the phone wasn't securely fixed to the windscreen... and, well, you guessed it.

Gutted.
[Desire HD General] fixxxer667:
Mine has dropped twice from 50cm ~1.5ft. Bad positioning on the nightstand + groggy first time, and a trip of the lady on the charging cable (phone resting on aforementioned nightstand)..

...two slight chips on the top left corner metal. I'm all about the survivor look, being a Fallout fan, I hate those unwieldy black rubber cases, but it pains me to know that those two little chips are there, right out of sight, mocking me for failing to take good care of my DHD.

And that coming from the guy who used a smashed iPhone 2g for the past 2 years. Cracked yet (surprisingly) fully operational screen, more dents in the metal backplate than you can shake a stick at.

Oh well.
[Desire HD General] ZedeN:
Dropped mine from about chest height onto laminated floor while trying to open a door while carrying shopping, unfortunately it did do something to the internal hardware.

Volume keys stopped working, wi-fi would not turn on and fm radio would not turn on. Case had no visible damage so sent back to HTC under waranty, 20 days later got my phone and its working flawlessly.
[Desire HD General] danrobz:
dropped mine so many times now but i'm lucky and it just hasnt scratched it :D
[Desire HD General] panyan:
can we have some pictures please :)
[Desire HD General] Aenima462:
this is exactly the reason I made sure I ordered and received my otterbox commuter series case BEFORE I bought my telus desire hd
[Desire HD General] sportedwood:
only had mine for about a week or so but already dropped it a few times, battle wounds... reminds me of my silver back iphone 1 after a few month, just adds character as far as im concerned.
[Desire HD General] FletchNZ:
I dropped mine down a flight of steps on to tiles, man that thing can bounce. It only got the smallest scratch on the top edge where i can see silver but it bugs me every time I look at it but it could have been so much worse without my barely there case or if the screen shattered. If only they sold nail polish in a DHD brown to use as repair paint ... :D
[Desire HD General] darkreize:
How is that Otterbox treating you? Any idea if Otterbox defender is any good? Is commuter better?
[Desire HD General] xfile087:
I don't know about the defender but I ordered a commuter at the same time I ordered my phone and love it. I had one for my iPhone 4. I've not dropped this phone yet *touch wood* but it's a great case and if nothing else it makes the back more even so the camera is less likely to get scratched.
[Desire HD General] darkreize:
Does it give you the confidence that if you drop it from a considerable height it won't get badly damaged, say 2 feet on a wooden floor?
[Desire HD General] LordManhattan:
No drops here (yet), but i remember when i got my first phone. It was 12 years ago, and I, Mini Bazooka, was only 12 years old. I was rocking a brand new Panasonic GD-450. Pretty small back then, but it's about the size of a small grizzly.

I dropped it four floors down, and it landed on the concrete floor. The battery fell off. Nothing more.. Ahh, the good ol' days when a phone was a phone, and not a control center for launching nuclear weapons and baking cookies.
[Desire HD General] Aenima462:
Mine got knocked off a table and fell at least 3 feet onto tile floor and nothing happened. I feel a lot more confident holding the phone and I don't have to worry so much about holding a super thin phone and not letting it drop. The case makes it feel perfect in the hand.
[Desire HD General] lodger:
Must be a Baking cookie app, nuclear weapons is easy thou....

Anyway droped mine a few times my case looks after her thou, she is still like new.
[Desire HD General] tykoon:
The first time you drop it is always the worst! After that it doesn't hurt so much ;-)

Dropped mine the first time whilst in the toilet. Just managed to deflect it from going down the pan! It landed on the floor luckily and has a marked corner now...

I would buy a case but I really don't like them at all.
[Desire HD General] Hellreject:
I think I had my DHD for about a week before I dropped it, and of course straight into asphalt. It got some nasty scratchmarks on the bottom / bottom left corner. I felt parts of my soul (and wallet) die that day ;(

Bought a gel case the day after, just to prevent further damaging of the DHD case.
[Desire HD General] Elemental_Fire:
Lol your hand must have been shaking really hard.... Random excercise at 2am anyone? :D
[Desire HD General] Tezray:
Dropped mine a few times once dropped about 5ft high perfectly flat on its face into a puddle about 1cm deep picked it up wiped on my trousers could see ear speaker got wet a lot and charging socket it did restart a couple of times afterwards when plugged in to charge and then been fine ever since. Got some scratches on the edges from something not sure how but I know it will break at some point so will use expensive insurance. I think its a solid phone and can take drops well.
[Desire HD General] R3dF1v3:
My first phone was a Philips C12, and it survived more than a few falls. I swear that in an emergency, you could club a rhino unconscious with one of those things!
[Desire HD General] Aenima462:
This was my moto milestone. The thing was a brick an on more than one drunken occasion, went flying onto rocks or pavement. Fell into a sink of water, nothing happened to it, still going strong for my friend lmao. I swear I would have used it as a weapon if I needed to :D

/offtopic

I'm beginning to more and more like the DHD without a case, and I do have insurance on it. Still too scared to go outside of the house without my otterbox. It's so icy outside I can see myself slipping and throwing it the first time I step outside with my phone naked
[Desire HD General] 007K:
+1 ^^ Otterbox is a must.
[Desire HD General] nasty159:
Well I didn't exactly drop mine, but the screen cracked... without me doing anything :| It was even in the original HTC Desire leather case! However it was in my car and was extremely hot... seems like a temperature crack. Very fine crack goes horizontal through the digitizer. I am so shocked, don't know how it happened. The LCD itself is perfect and you can hardly see the crack while the LCD is awake. I am currently in the process of speaking to HTC to get it sent off for repairs. I really hope they don't charge me! Not only that but my DHD is rooted so I can't be bothered un-rooting it to send to them! I found a $55 digitizer on eBay so I might buy that then get it fixed locally. FML though :(
[Desire HD General] anheuer:
Pics or it didnt happen!!!! :D
[Desire HD General] JustByZero:
I was sitting on my bed the other day and managed to drop a can of Monster all over my bed/phone, it got it a bet wet, so with that ripped the battery out, along with the sim and sd card. I had noticed it was only the charging port that got wet really, no liquid inside near the battery. Anyway let it dry for about 5 hours and then plugged it back in, it would keep going to "In car mode" so I thought I had buggered it up. Left it off for the night, and its not done it since :D

Lucky boy :P
[Desire HD General] naimmkassim:
Drop mine!!

:mad: After 3 month usage, I found there is small chips on top of my DHD near power button. weird, did'nt notice how it got there.

On the same month 4 days ago, when I was just walking and hold my DHD in my hand, suddenly its slip through and drop on to the carpet.

No dented or chip even scratch happen, but my battery cover a little bit come out from its position. Try to open the cover in order to correct its position, unfortunately, I found the slot cover leg already broken :( damn!!. Regret it ever since. Try to install back the cover batery, now the cover a little bit come out not aling with aluminum body..wtf!! :mad:

Can I buy the battery cover only? does it sell somewhere?
[Desire HD General] AndroHero:
You can get battery covers for a few pounds on ebay :)
[Desire HD General] xn1:
I dropped mine from about 4ft onto tarmac, it landed perfectly onto the camera and didn't even bounce. The metal surround caved in and smashed the glass cover, not a pretty sight I tell you. All I can say is.... thank god for insurance

Sent from my AR Desire HD
[Desire HD General] naimmkassim:
Buy DHD battery cover from sis company :)

Today I call SiS center and they inform they have stock of this cover.

I immediately buy it with cost RM62 or $19.40 dollar US.

Lucky me.

Now the cover is firmly attach to aluminum body with no flush come out.

Very happy now!! hahaha :D:D
[Desire HD General] moldstory:
Sorry for hear that,if for me,I also will be so upset

so now I very take care for my DHD
[Desire HD General] naimmkassim:
Drop again!!!

Damn!!..:mad:I so not be carefull.

Again this morning it fall down from my T-Shirt pocket to ground solid floor during im getting into my car!!

F*uk!!

BUT luckly I already purchase silicon case since the 1st accident happen.

Today after drop to ground, look like my DHD is still in good shape and no scratch at all.

Thanks GOD!!..hahaha:D:D
[Desire HD General] AndriodLover:
I dropped it on my foot (no shoes or socks ) and the pain of dropping my dhd and the physical pain : not good. :(
[Desire HD General] twiztedvvv:
best comment I've ever read on xda. Nice.

I've not dropped mine..... Yet
[Desire HD General] allajunaki:
I have dropped my Nokia E-71 couple of times.

The Metal body of the phone dented quite a bit.

So when I got my DHD, first thing was to order a couple of Silicon cases off ebay. Picked one that I liked the most and keep in them on regular weekdays.

However on weekends, just because the phone is so damn sexy, I would take em out of those pouches and carry em as-is. :cool:
[Desire HD General] samuel2706:
I have like a pixel wide chip in my screen, not noticable. but i still notice it :(
[Desire HD General] arielc:
I haven't dropped mine yet, but i occasionally forget to take everything out of my "dhd pocket" and its just a matter of time before something gives.

I really don't like the cases, i think the phone is big enough as it is so i went for option B and just got insurance. It will cover me for a lost/stolen phone as well i guess its the price i have to pay to keep my DHD case free.

When i first started flashing roms I kept getting boot loops while installing some themes that I know now were incompatible. I kept having to take the battery out to get back to CWM. I decided to try one more time with the theme before going to sleep and it again went to the boot loop so i tried to yank the battery cover off. As i was new to the phone and the lights were off, instead of taking the cover off i yanked the whole volume keys off and nearly bent them in two.

I was so happy I had insurance, got a spare battery from it as well :)
[Desire HD General] thiagodark:
oh man, worse than drop the phone is deliberately break it! =oP

i dropped my phone several times (i know, i should be more careful), but the worse scratch was made by my "friend", he just let it fall down from his hand and try to hold it by the headphone cable, so, he hold the cable, but the phone fly about 2 meters away and hit a wood seat before meeting the concrete floor. it got not only a scratch, but "dented" it too... now i can see the frame form around the screen... it really hurts more than a kick in the balls! =o)

so, i have a question: does anybody know where i could find a ink in that specific color? all my previous phone was black and was a lot easier to repair these things!
[Desire HD General] radisoft:
Dropped mine once but left only a small, hard to see scratch. Bless you, metal case :)

My Nokia always fell apart (case, battery, cover,...) when being dropped...
[Desire HD General] Blåburk:
Iphone vs DHD risk of damage when dropped

I heard a lot of cracked screens on Iphones (That Apple warranty doesn't cover)

Which is for me yet another reason to stay away from the Iphone and Apple.

Have dropped my X10 Mini so many times I lost count of how many times.

Is the DHD as fragile as the Iphone?
[Desire HD General] Apl3x:
I haven't dropped my DHD yet, but i did step on the screen yesterday. It was charging on the floor, and it was dark in the room. All i heard was a crack sound. Lucky me that the screen can take 90kg on it :)
[Desire HD General] danny_ice:
Hi all,

I've dropped my dhd more times than I can remember, I must be very clumsy lol, but never the less the phone is still working and not a scratch on it, there's a very slight dint on the speaker grll, I've found from previous phones the worse thing you can do to damage your phone is to put it in your pocket with your keys or other things that will scratch it
[Desire HD General] kepler1982:
that was literally the first thing i did when i got the phone. walked out of the store, was so excited to use it so i opened the box, not realizing that i held it upside down, pulled the lid out and *smack*. my brand new DHD laying on the sidewalk with a chipped camera lens, and some nasty lines on the back. i'm so glad i added the cover-all-insurance when i bought it. i just went right into the store and got a new one =)
[Desire HD General] bdgiese90:
Lmao nice. My sister has the newest iphone and it's constructed from ballistic grade plastic and gorilla glass from what the dude at att told her. Don't really care to know..but it sounds indestructible. The old ones were crap though. Look at them wrong and they would practically explode.

I use a sgs vibrant though. Looks cheap as hell, but the screen is gorilla glass. I actually took a dinner fork to it when I learned this :D. Not to mention I probably drop the damn thing daily lol
[Desire HD General] panyan:
WOW! impressive customer service, in the UK, you'd have to call the insurance company, fill out a dozen forms, send it off for repair/replacement and then wait for it to come in the post! :p
[Desire HD General] bobbyelliott:
I don't like those protective covers (usually rubber) since they make the phone look ****, but I do use a leather cover when the phone is not in use. That way, it looks good in the cover and looks good when you use it. I dropped it once (from head height, it slipped out of my hand) but the cover protected it 100% and there's not a mark on it. I guess it would have smashed if I dropped it from that height without a cover.

If you buy a decent quality leather cover, it doesn't add much to the size of the phone, which still fits in your pocket. And the phone looks great when you use it. Best of both worlds.