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[Epic 4G Android Development] tanimn:
Most people do. May I refer you to this commit:

https://github.com/Rodderik/Genocide-Kernel-EB13/commit/6b89796000534716754f33c64c353df5034e2648
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Aye, it breaks Pandora, among other things.
[Epic 4G Android Development] yogi2010:
hi, i am pretty blown away by this kernel and the rom..... they are far better so far than i could have imagined. thanks so much!!

i was wondering, will you be adding more undervolts to the kernel, or is it already pretty fully undervolted? thx
[Epic 4G Android Development] tanimn:
Thanks, yogi. The plan is to trim some voltages in coming versions. We have to find the right 'mixture' to feed the cpu and keep it happy, which isn't something to do in a production environment.

But it leaves you something to look forward to. ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] yogi2010:
excellent.... thanks. i'll look forward to it for sure :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] ecooce:
So with root built in we can finally take superuser.apk out of the ROMs?
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
You can take out su and busybox, not Superuser.apk.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Very good scores but thomasskull is right. Test and test some more for stability. You don't want to be out somewhere and have your phone crash or get data corruption. Journal on is a good idea to protect yourself. I do that running 1.4
[Epic 4G Android Development] Killasmoke:
Thanks for the heads up Thomasskull 666 & John Corleone aka the god father! Lol I leave my phone either at 1.1ghz or 1ghz & put it up to 1.2 if need a little more juice I only put it up to 1.3 or 1.4 to run quadrant not for daily use & How do I put jornaling on & if I don't put jornaling on & phone gets corrupted what do I do from there do I have to re flash everything all over & wipe data 3x or does phone brick? Thanks for your help guys much appriciated! ; )
[Epic 4G Android Development] TexasLTE:
just flash this ;) .... but if you already had corruption you will want to do the normal wipes and reflash your ROM and then the journal on zip right afterward
[Epic 4G Android Development] motog35:
I am currently running SRF 1.2 with Genocide 2.0 Kernel. Getting HORRIBLE battery life.

Can I flash this KERNEL over my existing kernel and will I have to do any wipes prior?

Also, I currently have Journal ON. Will I have to reflash the Journal_ON.zip after I flash this Kernel?

Thanks folks.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Good advice here. You don't want to carry the corrupt data over. Clean install is best. Then flash the journal on zip right after that...before rebooting
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
No just flash. Journaling is fs (file system) related, so long answer short it has nothing to do with the kernel.
[Epic 4G Android Development] RushAOZ:
Can I asks a question? I'm on stock ec05 rfs rooted with 3101. I just flashed this kernel over geno 2.0. OP says with stock rooted I should be getting 1500 in quadrant. I'm only scoring 1100. On smartbench 2010 I score under the stock epic 2.2 @1000? Something wrong here? I'm using voltage control. I/O is set to bfq? I don't know what these are. Cfq? Noop? Anywho I'm not undervolting at all. Help? Lol

sent from the Galaxy S Pro
[Epic 4G Android Development] jeremy112683:
Change io
[Epic 4G Android Development] Robalboa:
I get 2100 quadrant with no over clocking make sure you converted to ext4
[Epic 4G Android Development] mouseglider:
So what you are saying is - ext4 is the only way you will hit those type of numbers? Is that with journaling on, or does that not make much of a difference in the benchmarks.

I am on a stock froyo ec05 "odexed" rom with genocide 2.0 - can I just convert to ext4 from where I am at, or must I start over and reflash genocide and then flash ext4 right after flash?

It also seems like regardless of rom you use, it must be "deodexed" before you can change to ext4?

Thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] RushAOZ:
I've always wondered this. Of I would be able to just take the stock ec05 rom, convert to ext 4 and use the right kernel and bam. Stock ec05 with ext4. I'm guessing it doesn't work that way eh? My open wasn't about hitting 2100 or being on ext4 though. Its about the fact that I'm underscoring in the benchmarks even when overclocked to 1.3GHz. Its really bugging me. I feel like there's something wrong

sent from the Galaxy S Pro
[Epic 4G Android Development] RushAOZ:
Just to clarify. Look at my score compared to the other galaxy s variants on stock@1GHz. See what I'm saying? Wtf? Why am I scoring on par with a stock epic 2.2@1GHz when I'm at 1.3GHz. I'm being bamboozled somewhere here.

sent from the Galaxy S Pro
[Epic 4G Android Development] mouseglider:
My scores average out like yours - sometimes I score a little higher - and look what I have - see my sig.

One thing for sure though - my phone really is perfect and has a nice responsive feel to it - may not be the fastest - but it is super smooth and reliable! :D:cool:
[Epic 4G Android Development] RushAOZ:
Can you fill me in on how to get that supercharger going? Since were on the same rom id like to do exactly what you did lol. Last time I fudged my rom and had to reflash.

sent from the Galaxy S Pro
[Epic 4G Android Development] mouseglider:
I went to the Market Place and DL'd a app called "Script Manager" - then I DL'd the V6 SuperCharger version 8 script into the root directory of my SD card, which I simply leave there to re-run if I need to, and then I use option 8 or 9 - I made a setting in between those - but you can simply chose 8 or 9 if you don't want to fiddle with the settings - then I went back and chose 11, which basically uses whatever you chose like 9 and then 11 makes your Launcher "Hard To Kill"

Note; you have to use Busy Box version less than 1.18.2? - my Busy Box is 1.16.2.
[Epic 4G Android Development] RushAOZ:
What kind of performance gains are you getting on the supercharger? I'm curious to see if its worth it. I'm trying not to fiddle too much with the rom so I can maximise stability. I already screwed up somewhere since my benches are being beat by stock epic l@1ghz according to the benchmarks.

sent from the Galaxy S Pro
[Epic 4G Android Development] omair2005:
well if your android has better memory management it'll have better performance. I think its def worth it. either that or the newest juwe update..

p.s. any updates coming to this kernel or has dev stopped?
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
I know someone was really interested in updating this to include 1.4 and to make a few other upgrades. Let me try to contact him and see if Tanimn got back to him
[Epic 4G Android Development] ArchangelRenzoku:
Has there been a new upload of 1.1.1 that moves SU somewhere else other than /sbin now?

There have been quite a few issues with superuser not being able to update binaries because SU was installed in that location on the kernel.
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Unfortunately there has been nobody to maintain this kernel for quite some time :-(
[Epic 4G Android Development] ArchangelRenzoku:
I ended up d/l K0's updated 1.1.1 and it contains SU3.0 and some other fixes so I don't really need to worry about it anymore. It's still in the same path I think though but it's the newer version that lets you turn off the prompt to update the binaries.

Twilight Zone 1.1.1-k0

https://twitter.com/#!/zanderman112/status/120976393927528449

- built on Twilight Zone 1.1.1

- removed Build Number hijack

- added sexy new boot logo

- updated to mkasick's latest keyboard patch

- updated to Voodoo Sound v10

- updated su binary to 3.0

- updated built-in CWM to 3.1.0.1

- added EXT4 patches by Theodore T'so for speed and stability

- tuned EXT4 mount options on /data for journaled file systems
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Ah yes that works.
[Epic 4G Android Development] A_Flying_Fox:
So acs is on a higher level..

Got it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Not in the slightest. Ignore Mystery here.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BeerChameleon:
Ok can u take out the name all together then...

Sent from My Eb13 Modem, With old bonsai epic 4g.
[Epic 4G Android Development] brickwall99:
I don't see a version 0.4a available.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
It's available, browse their thread. But browse ours first - 100mhz is working flawlessly. Use SetCPU to tweak how you like - and use the On Demand governor for maximum performance.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mkasick:
Have you had a chance to post your kernel source tree (or diffs) yet?

I didn't see a link, but I'm blind sometimes.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Aye, we have - tanimn may be doing some updates. I was going to let tanimn post the link, but it appears he's getting some much-needed sleep. Here's our source:

https://github.com/ACSyndicate

EDIT: And thanks so much for your work so far! Your patches have been very useful.
[Epic 4G Android Development] insanity213:
I happen to like the name "Genocide"... Didn't care for the Twilight movies either...

Besides, with the exception of some comments the OC/UV tables are pretty much identical. I'll stick with the original author's work.

No disrespect to whoever compiled this kernel, but Genocide has been working just fine for me for quite a while now. Why fix what ain't broke?
[Epic 4G Android Development] MeetFace:
I was wondering about that. I've seen quite a few attempts at different kernels, but it seems they all started off with Rodderik's work and built on-ward.

Interesting there's no note of him anywhere in the creds...looks like the '

C

REATIVE" part of the acronym describes something other than what it implies.

Best of luck to you mates.
[Epic 4G Android Development] blspyro:
I am personally glad another kernel has finally come out....yes they probably used some stuff genocide had but the have to start somewhere and why should they undo progress? Anything after that is advancement and I wish both teams great success and can't wait to see what they both put out.

PyRo
[Epic 4G Android Development] insanity213:
Ohh don't get me wrong, the more talent in the community the better off we'll all be. I haven't read the entire Git source yet (that'll take a while) but I guess there are some other enhancements in there. I'd like to diff everything to see what else was done, but I just don't have the time for that. Little credit where credit is due is always nice too.
[Epic 4G Android Development] drivenapollo:
not sure if anyone else is having this issue. I shut my phone down when it was plugged in because i was gonna flash something. After it shut down it started the samsung screen where it shows the battery level. It froze trying to fill in the battery with color. I had to pull batt. I thought maybe it was a 1 time thing and i plugged in the cable and it froze in the same spot. Flashed back to genocide and it works no problem, but now i have lost root. lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] vocaltreat:
Soooo.....I'm a complete noob.....and I was able to flash genocide with no probs WHATSOEVER.....pandora and tether....well hell everything works....phones tend to be fickle.....I'm sure your kernal is great and peeps like to have options....but I Love genocide and the devs are amazingly awesome with speedy replies and fixes........so saying a plus is that its not called genocide is....well.....a complete asshole comment.......

can i get a HOT TUB!
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Twilight Zone - the old TV show, not the horrid Vampire series.

This kernel implements much that Genocide currently does not, read the first post.

This kernel is not based on Rodderik's work in any way, shape, or form. Rodderik is great dev and Genocide is a great kernel, but we did not use his code EDIT: except, it appears, unintentionally and in small bits. See tanimn's post below on what happened, sorry for the confusion. The 1.2ghz overclock was already in the stock EB13 kernel source, put there by Samsung. That was fairly easy to enable. The other changes, we made ourselves - some based on past work by other ACS members (see the ADB bugfix - DevinXtreme), some contributed to us directly by other developers (see the idle timer, and mkasick's patches).

To note - I am not the dev on this. If anything has been included, intentionally or otherwise, tanimn will tell you - and correct me, and ensure credit is given. We do not steal others' work. I've had my work stolen (outright, and as a whole, not a small piece), and it sucked. I would never want that. See the SyndicateROM Frozen thread's fourth post - every piece I used, I did my best to find the original developer of and give credit. And as always, if I or any ACS member misses a piece of credit when everything's said and done, just send a PM and we will correct it.

Again, nothing from Genocide was used.

We have credited all individuals whose code we have used. EDIT: And see tanimn's post below, please.

Pandora works fine with this kernel.
[Epic 4G Android Development] cilio87:
Suggestions

I tried ACS syndicate Rom 1.0 with this kernal and the benchmarks were all pretty low. I went to another rom Super Nova 2.2.2 and i was getting high scores till i flashed over this kernal. Any suggestions? My linpack went from 16 avg to 13 Quadrant went from 1650 to 1500 and Smart bench just shot down about 250 each way
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Switch to the On Demand governor.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tanimn:
It seems I owe Rodderick and the Genocide kernel some gratitude and credit for enabling the overclocking code. If you look at the files with .orig extensions you will notice that at least some of them are not original versions. Somehow files from a test kernel got mixed into the production source tree at an early point and neither I or anybody else noticed the switch. (Yes, I was using genocide code in some of my test kernels. It's good code and was an easy base to use for testing higher clocks and voltages) Now that I'm aware of the issue, I'm checking to see how much else isn't original samsung files in my baseline.

In the meantime, credit where it is due, and Rodderick deserves credit for unlocking 1.2ghz for us.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Quoting because you folks need to read this. tanimn is the developer of this kernel along with thomasskull666 and the last word on any kernel matters, if I have misrepresented anything previously (please note my edits), I was misinformed and apologize.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Rodderik:
Thanks tanimn, I'm sure it was just a miscommunication. I'm glad I could help and will continue to help any way I can. You guys have some stuff in there that I haven't been able to make it to yet. My vision (the open source vision) is for people to learn and improve...not re-invent. Thankfully the stable 1.2GHz overclocking I already did hopefully saved you guys a few hours of work and testing to work on bigger and better things. I'm still just learning with the kernel stuff but you guys let me know if I can help in any way.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Thanks for jumping in, Rodderik. We appreciate your efforts - we'll find you if we need your help. :) Feel free to find any one of us any time as well.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MeetFace:
Good deal, sorry for being cheeky ;)

Thanks for the transparency.

I'm not on Team Viper, but I've been around with the guys there for a while, and I'm sure you work as tirelessly as they do.

We had an instance with one weasel, "Baldor", where he was ignorantly claiming the Team to be a bunch of irresponsible schmoes and asked some MODS to pull the ROM...talk about an act of idiocy. If we could smoke out the weasel, I would.

Flashed your ROM this morning to check out what you got going on, and it's top notch.

Part of me wishes we could take all the genius Devs and combine forces. It pains me to see the inefficiency of rehashing code to get to the same results, but what do I know, I'm no coder, just a joe-schmoe =]

You guys take it easy.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
We do our best. :) Viper does good work.

Idiots abound. ;) People like that should be banned. EDIT: And people seem to just love drama.

Thanks for your support, and glad you're enjoying the ROM! It would be interesting to see an uberkernel from all the best of the best released.

We devs do often share our thinks - Mammon and the Bonsai team have made all of their modifications freely available, and I've included some in my ROM. I've made my CIQ removal modification freely available, Team Viper has made their kernel source freely available... We all use different bits and pieces (though sometimes we don't mean to... See tanimn's post!). In the case of our overclocking/undervolting code, we don't want to reinvent the wheel - but we do experiment with different methods, steps, maximum clock speeds... You get the picture. :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] heathmcabee:
How long till we see one of those classic but AWESOME 1.6GHZ kernels? I know some phones didn't seem to run well with the overclock, but would be awesome to try again. Not rushing you guys in ANY way, but its fun to try new things. Am definitely digging Frozen rom with this Twilight Zone Kernel! Keep up the great work, and thanks again!
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
You'll never get 1.6ghz. It was a time machine - for details information, search "Xtreme Kernel Lucy" and read DevinXtreme's explanation.
[Epic 4G Android Development] heathmcabee:
Aww, thats a bummer. Will head over there to reiterate myself with what I must have forgotten, though Time Machine sounds very familiar when we had DI18. Is there anything past 1.2 viable anymore? * heads over to that thread *
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Yes, we are looking at 1.3ghz.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Rodderik:
good old 'bullet time'

i too had 1.6ghz working for a while but will never release 1.6ghz

i would say just for the sake of numbers that 1.2ghz is stable for 99.9% of epics

1.3ghz would be stable for 95% of epics

and 1.4ghz would be stable for oh around 50% or less at most?

(see the pattern here?)

this all assumes we dial in the voltages perfectly...just my guestimations on the subject
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
We're all the one, Neo. ;)

^ Pretty much the truth here, folks - though I'd say 1.4ghz is closer to 75-80%.
[Epic 4G Android Development] heathmcabee:
Excellent! My friend whom I work beside all day has the Mytouch4g (Glacier) which does 1.8 and he rubs his new SmartBench scores in my face all day, almost to the point of where he was getting on my nerves. I'm looking to come back with one day to make him cry when this Kernel matures. If it can be done, I know ACS will accomplish it. Maybe Rodderik will or you guys will put us one out there to play with for the more daring sort.

I say bring it back for us to test, even though some couldn't run it, it was so much fun testing it! My epic ran 1.6 like it was meant to. Was awesome.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tanimn:
I think 1.6ghz was a reporting gimmick that actually ran at 1.2 or 1.3ghz. Most of those kernels have been pulled. We are planning to hit 1.3 (1280mhz atm) and add at least 1 more step into the middle of the range. After tweaking all the voltages we might even push for 1.4, but 1.3 would satisfy me. Anything more would probably be hit or miss depending on the silicon in your phone.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Rodderik:
Well the almighty 'MeGaHuRtZ' is not always the king...tho it makes the biggest difference....now we have source I'm sure we will find even more ways to streamline and make the phone faster...and not by tricking or false benchmarks either.
[Epic 4G Android Development] heathmcabee:
Ya, definitely looking forward to it, and I understand what you mean about that statement. I got a Core 2 Duo E8500 that runs at 4.7GHZ, but still doesn't beat my Core2Quad 9550 @ 4.0. Just be assured I really appreciate everything you guys do, and I look forward to new releases!
[Epic 4G Android Development] TRZN:
Just traded my Vibrant for the almighty Epic, Thank God for keyboards!! Can't use Bionix anymore so this is my first ROM on my Virgin phone. Sounds good!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] MojoSwag:
Does this kernel support wireless tether 2.0.7 that's in the market?
[Epic 4G Android Development] p-niiice:
my phone is hanging at the samsung logo after flashing this. I've tried clearing dalvik before the reboot per the instructions, and that just gives me fc's after I restore genocide. Am I missing something? After I bring back genocide all is fine. Do I need to go from stock?
[Epic 4G Android Development] yogi2010:
You would set the max. to 1000, and min. to either 100 or 200.... if your phone has issues at 100, bump the min. to 200. Going down to 100 uses a lot less power than 1000, even undervolted.
[Epic 4G Android Development] churro7:
like what issues?

I notice lag when on 100/1000

none at 1000/1000
[Epic 4G Android Development] yogi2010:
sometimes people's phones have trouble coming out of sleep mode at 100.

i would imagine things would run faster at 1000/1000, but would use more battery.
[Epic 4G Android Development] churro7:
100 seems to be working
[Epic 4G Android Development] tanimn:
We are seeing this happen on a small number of handsets. My working theories are that those units are not responding well to the undervolting or taking umbrage at the clock stepping. I hope to test these theories tonight and find a resolution that serves everyone best.

If anybody has one of these handsets that won't boot with the Twilight Zone kernel and wants to try some test kernels to help find a resolution to this problem, please PM me and I'll link you the test builds as soon as the series is ready.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tanimn:
This is from either cwm3 or the one click redirector, I don't remember which one at the moment.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MeetFace:
Just a quick FYI.

As is with other kernels out, redirector is broken.
[Epic 4G Android Development] GucciPilot:
After flashing the kernal I noticed handcentsms icon had changed to a default android icon. When I "clicked" on it to launch the program, it said HandcentSmS was not installed on my phone. After a reboot it came back. Maybe just a fluke bug? I wiped dalvik cache 3 times for good measure after flashing the kernal through clockwork 2.5. Another potential bug occured while using google listen on a new podcast. A few minutes after shutting off the display, It would cut in and out, but only did this on a podcast that hadn't already been downloaded, but was streaming. When I turned on the screen and unlocked the phone it behaved normally. I want to try the rom, but I'm hesitant since checking for bad blocks using noobnl's method in connectbot reported I had 13 bad blocks. Thank You for all your hard work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] churro7:
Great kernel but can't mount via USB onto a pc

Sent from XDA app with 2.2 powered Epic 4g
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Its not the kernel.

Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] mkasick:
Thanks!

You're welcome.