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[Xoom General] cutterjohn:
It's no better on froyo on the gtab or adam... but I believe that you're on the right track that it's software, but more of a driver problem than Android itself.

nVidia's sticking to their h.264 1080p main-profile in their "official" specs...

Beyond that: come one, the Tegra 2 tablets are just SO MUCH snappier than the cortex-a8, ARM11, and ARM9 tablets...

Back to video for a second: BEST by FAR video playback that I've seen on Android devices have been those with Telechips TCC89XX SoCs... ancient ARM11 CPU but they've got some kind of hw video encode/decode block awesomeness...

USB charging: not going to happen with the batts in most decent performing tablets. Just look at the voltage/current specs then look at USB specs. They'd've had to make a custom USB interface like B&N have with the Nookcolor to charge over USB. It's just easier to have a separate power port, and likely more robust in the long run.
[Xoom General] JimmyHACK:
Also, just random, am I the only one scared that the charging pin is so thin that I will accidentally snap it off one day? :)
[Xoom General] Paradox5582:
No, because I don't hold a phone with two hands.
[Xoom General] lanternca:
Imho, I agree with paradox that the tablet power button can be in a different location than phones and still make sense (given the two hand approach). I also agree with the OP that the could have found a better location for it...or frankly even have two different ones. I've been looking at third party cases for the ipad, and some of them fit 'fairly' well, expect of course, none of them have a hold in the back for the power button. Given the OEM moto portfolio case is my only option, I really not satisfied.
[Xoom General] JimmyHACK:
ya i know that it is kind of a natural placement, but i use by tablets with thenmlaying flat on a table and holding in my hands 50/50, so having to pick up to unlock it my annoyance
[Xoom General] p-slim:
Not trying to argue either but I don't see any problems, my xoom definitely doesn't lag but I am rooted. The power button is in the perfect place if you ask me, I love the design and how its hidden.
[Xoom General] djcense:
Thumb Keyboard

If the keyboard is lagging, try thumb keyboard. I haven't had any issues with it. Plus it has directional buttons to make it easier to go back in text
[Xoom General] myn:
Nice review Jimmy :)

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Looks like I won't be getting one of these :(
[Xoom General] pandarus:
USB charging is out of date for tablet for long time due to the high capacity of batteries. Just imaging charging netbook via USB? That is ridiculous.

I don't like the placement of the power button too.

While I was using XOOM, I had never felt any lagging.
[Xoom General] setite:
Most of the OPs points are moot. The power button, is AWESOME. I am so used to my EVO where i have to hold the phone very hard to push that power button which is both in a stupid place, and hard to depress.

The lag I get so far is from apps not coded for 3.0 yet. I just make sure to force close them when I notice a slow down and I get my speed back. Every once in a while I hit a sluggish patch for about a minute that quickly clears up
[Xoom General] p-slim:
I don't think you will ever get a tab if that made your decision for you. Personally I've used almost every tab including my ipad and this device out performs them all by leaps and bounds. Ipad lags waaay harder then this device and I'm not even going to get into the nook or galaxy tab
[Xoom General] muyoso:
That is just untrue. The iPad's UI is smooth as silk. Now if you are talking about web browsing or something like that, the Xoom destroys it as it should. Take a look at the Notion Ink vs Xoom video posted on here. I have never seen an iPad or Galaxy Tab lag like the Xoom does in that video. Its obviously something that will be fixed, but just more evidence that Honeycomb is more like a work in progress at this point.

Edit: Oh yea, if you want a tab that solves at least some of the OP's gripes, look for one running a TI OMAP4430/OMAP4440 with Powervr SGX540 clocked at 300mhz. Destroys the Tegra 2 in benchmarks and will play ANY video you throw at it. As far as I know no tablet exists with this SoC in it, but we can hope. Its in the new Optimus 3d I think.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4179/ti-omap4-and-lg-optimus-3d-tested
[Xoom General] p-slim:
I can't get my xoom to lag the way regular android lags compared to ios. Honeycomb is extremely fluid. I'm talking about scrolling up and down and between panes. My I pad lags when opening certain programs but it is significantly under processed
[Xoom General] Rich W:
I'm going back and forth on keeping it. Like most things but the video problems are a concern for something this pricey. Playback of most video including YouTube and sling-box are terrible. Haven't tried HD yet but will. I know and understand its a new device and most of the software problems will be fixed with updated and others who will hack it. Thanks to those guys for fixing many problems on other platforms and this one will no doubt be next on there list :)

Think the location of the port location is terrible and then Motorola didn't think about the port locations when designing there portfolio case. Or did they trying to force you to buy there docking station! I'm sure some other vendor will fix this but Motorola pissed me off with this case.

Rich
[Xoom General] Zzoro:
One question abaut the version for 800$ without a contract. Do I understand correctly that it is unlocked and it works with any operator? Want to buy it for abroad. TNX
[Xoom General] SirLance99:
My slingbox plays perfectly. I'm actually excited at how awesome it plays. Brought new life to my slingbox. I have the HD version but only have it connected to coaxial which is the next best option because I ran out of HD ports. Video playback is amazing. Thinking about switching it to a HD port just to see how much better the quality get which is great now.
[Xoom General] Dr.Preston:
Tegra 2 cannot handle high profile h.264 video, but neither can the chips in any other decent tablet on the market right now. If you know how to use handbrake you can redo your videos in baseline pretty easily.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Semi true. The Galaxy Tab can play high profile h.264. Also, in March or so when the Blackberry playbook is released running the OMAP4430 it will rip through any possible media you could throw at it.
[Xoom General] p-slim:
Xoom does h264

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=972091
[Xoom General] muyoso:
No one is saying it doesn't. It does baseline h.264 up to 1080p. Of course you can convert media to a format the Xoom can play, but the point is that you shouldn't have to.
[Xoom General] p-slim:
I got you now
[Xoom General] jackoutside:
I completely agree - I too am disappointed. The OS is sluggish, compared to the Dell Streak 7 which is running Tegra 2 on 2.2 - that thing is much faster and smoother, but battery life isn't so good.
[Xoom General] Err0xx:
Sluggish?

So help me God I can't understand how this thing can appear sluggish to people- may there is a manufacturing defect or something like that with some of the models. Mine is HARDCORE fast, smooth animations, no sluggishness at all. I have every slot in 3 of the 5 home screens filled with widgets and app icons and I'm running the Lightning live wallpaper and the transitions between homescreens is smooth as silk; listening to music and reading is smooth as hell as well, never force closed anything. Keyboard inputs have been super responsive as well. Got it at 10am on launch day and have been on the damn thing pretty much the whole time so I have some serious hours behind it already, given how long it's been out. LOVE the position of the lock button as well, as it is right under my finger when I pick it up- always hated the lock button location on my iPad. My ONLY complaint is that the system sounds are too quiet, such as the lock/unlock sound and the keystroke sounds. Volume while playing games and movies is fine, just wish the system sounds got jacked up a bit. I find a lot of things to describe this tablet, 98% of them good, but sluggish certainly isn't one of the bad descriptors. Maybe I just got lucky, who knows, but I am *extremely* satisfied with this device.

Err0xx
[Xoom General] vcarvega:
I still can't understand complaints about the power button. It is in a very natural position when the tablet is held in its natural position.

I have had an application or two lag on me, but for the most part, it is definitely the most zippy tablet I have ever used!

I do agree that Google should have put as much thought into a stock video player as they did into the redesigned music player though. Still... the SDK hasn't even been released for a week yet. There will definitely be some tegra 2 optimized video players within about a month or so ;-). If you,he seen any of the software or games being demo'd for this Spring, you know the Tegra 2 can definitely handle HD video.
[Xoom General] mackaikai:
browser crashes....browsing lags from time to time.

Dolphin HD lags like crazy too, but i am willing to give them time to optimize Honeycoomb...

thank goodness i got my Xoom at Costco, 90 days to decide
[Xoom General] Bauxite:
Dolphin was not meant for honeycomb and doesn't use any of the 2D acceleration that the built in browser does, so blaming google for that is pretty dumb.
[Xoom General] cowboys4life22:
I think we need to give the xoom time to adjust out all the bugs. I know that even the ipad wasn't bug free at first. Have to remember this version of android is very new and will need time to figure out how to fix everything. I have a strong feeling that motorola will enable the sdcard slot when they upgrademod firmware for the 4G module when its ready to be installed.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Its not a software issue at all. Its a Tegra 2 issue. You can play HD video on the Tegra 2, just like you can play HD video on the iPad. Both need to be in the EXACT format that the SoC can play, which is quite specific.
[Xoom General] pub00515:
Hey guys,

I'm not a regular (post-wise) here on xda but I've been reading a lot. I'm from Germany and as such am waiting eagerly for one of the new tabs to arrive (both the Xoom and the Samsung Tab 10.1 seem to be pretty interesting).

I'm curious as to the USB charging issue. I've read quite a few guys referring to the USB specs that 500 mA @ 5V is the max. While this is true for the normal PC, there is a also a new specification that explicitly handles charging smart phones via USB at higher currents (EN-62684 if you want to read up on it).

In fact, it will become an EU regulation that all smart phones have to be able to be charged via micro-USB. And I think China is also going this route.

While the tabs aren't smartphones per se, there is no technical reason not to be able to charge a device via USB (the new specs allow at least 1.2 Amps). Apple also did it this way.

So while I'm a little disappointed that Motorola decided against this, I hope Samsung will be compatible! (The "old" G-Tab could be charged via USB)

Not to be a wise guy, just thought this might be of interest...

Regards

Mark
[Xoom General] Bauxite:
The Xoom isn't exactly a mobile phone. The galaxy tab uses a usb port on one end, and a proprietary connector on the other, and it DOES NOT charge via a normal usb port, it has a 2A charger.

By the way the Galaxy Tab 10.1 has the exact same proprietary apple-like connector on it.
[Xoom General] colbyb25:
You can't please everyone.My wife and I each got a zoom and we are beyond happy thus far. The zoom is incredibly fast and silky smooth most of the time and the only force closes I have been getting is XDA which isn't optimized for honeycomb yet.

If you don't like it, return it! But don't come on here and make it sound like the zoom is crap and half finnished. Yes it needs some software tweaks, but it is a killer product that has amazing future potential. Most other tabs will not be unlockable and will be covered in bloatware. Everything has an oppertubity cost.

If your zoom is "that" laggy exchange it because mine and most others are blazing fast.
[Xoom General] keitht:
I agree with you about the speed however, I have tried to load some "phone" apps and noticed lag and freezes. This looks like a compatibility issue with apps not designed for tablet. The best thing to do is stick with tablet apps and report those that do not work to the developer.
[Xoom General] modru2004:
so much misinformation going around.

first the tegra 2 CAN play high profile h264 720 p. it cannot play 1080p high profile.

second the notion ink adam had an update this month that fixed most of the video play back issues and it uses the same hardware.

third if high profile h264 1080p is a big deal for you, then yes you should look elsewhere because no tegra 2 device can.

most of the video play back issues people are having are software/codec related.
[Xoom General] thehavock18:
I like the power button. At first I did not. However grabbing the tablet in the dark its the easiest way to know I have it the correct way and to turn on. Two hand device for the most part
[Xoom General] unknown_owner:
Yes it's a shame that the manufacturer didn't consult you on where they should have put the buttons for their tablet. I'm sure they didn't know that you would return it. I'm sure they are regretting things now.

If you want a tablet to have things where you want them, design one. Other than that, your stuck with some else's design. Oh and if you find something you don't like on one brand tablet , there are bound to be other things you don't like about another. The cycle will end when you come to the realization that unless you made it, you're either stuck with it or don't need one.

Nothing you buy in life will be perfectly and exactly the way you envisioned. It's a fact of life and people deal with that all the time. I'm sure the millions of people that will eventually buy the Xoom, will deal with what they bought.

This is just my opinion. (which the Galant didn't have the hazard button so high; I would have preferred it 2 inches lower. Think I'm going to return it)
[Xoom General] roebeet:
As a GTAB user, the high profile issue is well known. Sorry to hear that new Tegra 2 users were not aware of this.

That being mentioned, a different spin on the Xoom versus iPad debate (at least). People using iPads can judge video via iTunes, and of course HD video is perfectly encoded for the iPad because of where you're getting it from. We don't have that with Google -- video download sources are "questionable" at best so I suppose having to re-transcode for the device isn't the worst thing in the world. Imo, of course.

I would assume that, if Google ever did open a video store, it would be with the Tegra 2 in mind which would solve all these issues. But of course it wouldn't be free.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
huh? You just what I said using different words, and called what I said misinformation. . . .

Its not a software issue, its a hardware issue. The Tegra 2 can play certain specific types of h.264 and you have to have your media in those exact formats for it to play. At this point all I know for certain is that it can play baseline 1080P up to 30 fps and is supposed to be capable of playing 720P high profile.
[Xoom General] csmith75:
He did mention problems other than the power button... lol
[Xoom General] JimmyHACK:
Was just my impressions and opinions.. I do kind of enjoy it gets some people all riled up though :)
[Xoom General] Jrockttu:
I'm enjoying it more and more as I have it, but I still don't think I can get over the speaker placement. I was watching a video online in bed last night and the audio was horrible. Like others have said, I had to turn it up really loud and it made my hands vibrate. That's a pretty big design flaw, in my opinion. It makes a folio case impractical, also.
[Xoom General] LordLugard:
This is a Verizon CDMA version, will only work on WiFi outside of North America. Wait for GSM models to hit Europe in the next few months.
[Xoom General] guardianali:
1. Use any unlocker app to chose ur own way to unlock.

2. The tablet may not natively play various codecs but there are many vid players in market that play most codecs. Qqplayer, rockplayer, vplayer..few others. All work great with what u throw at it. Divx, xvid, mkv..etc..

3. This tablet is to android what droid 1 was to android phones. Its a "google experience" device. No blur, sense, of other "skins" so updates wont take long at all. Will be pushed out by google pretty quick i imagine.

4. The sluggishness is a) personal perception & b) software related if it exsists. The hardware is amazing. Again an update will fit it. (see #3).

5. Being a stock rom, the developer community will go nutz with this. Cant wait!
[Nexus S General] heroheto:
Hi

I can tell that the phone is using wireless due to the speed. Its just a little annoying.

Anyone else have this issue?

Masters stock 2.3.3 deodexed (rooted) with Netarchy 1.2.7 cfs @ 1.2
[Nexus S General] amjad_2020:
the same thing it show before and after i root my NS
[Nexus S General] bgrimm:
same here.

with 2.3.1 and now 2.3.3

:mad:
[Nexus S General] zephiK:
Yeah it's happened to me. Just toggle WiFi off then toggle it back on.
[Nexus S General] CB620:
Haven't had that problem. You should try flashing again. I just heard of that problem in 2.3.2
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
Its my understanding that this is as a result of an app which needs to use wireless data specifically from a mobile network so it momentarily turns the mobile data radio on and then turns it off when its done.
[Nexus S General] amjad_2020:
i have only google apps and the 3G was on and the wifi in the same time ....
[Nexus S General] teorigoni:
I think this is the issue:

http://www.google.com/support/forum...f0&hl=en&fid=62b9e23a049f4ef000049d6875a2422a
[Nexus S General] moon-unit:
Star the issue and post in the thread - looks like Google are starting to show an interest in it.
[Nexus S General] d.chatten:
Indeed it is, as moon-unit suggested, can anyone with this issue please post in the thread over at the google forum started by "fizzydx" (me).

Thanks!
[Nexus S General] teorigoni:
I'm panateo - already posted ;)
[Nexus S General] tristan_2468:
I posted too. It's very annoying.

T
[Nexus S General] Bikers:
and I have another thing! when i want to start mobile data it just won't start. to solve it I have to reboot my phone!

anybody else getting this?

Nexus S, 2.3.3, gri40, Vodafone Romania!
[Nexus S General] AtomicPC:
Sometimes turning on airplane mode and then turning it off again starts the mobile data for me. Give that a shot Bikers.
[Nexus S General] RogerPodacter:
Are you guys receiving an mms at the same time? On WiFi when receiving a pic message the phone is forced to use 3g data to connect to the carrier server over 3g only to receive the pic. This is the Only time I've ever seen WiFi and 3g at the same time.
[Nexus S General] swa2k4:
This usually happens to me when my wifi is out of range
[Nexus S General] mylexon20s:
Up until yesterday I was running 2.3.2 with the XXKB3 radio. I updated to 2.3.3 and got the XXKB1 radio. As soon as I connected to wifi, I started to experience this problem with 3g and wifi showing at the same time. So, I decided to re-upgrade to.the XXKB3 radio and I no longer have the problem.

The instructions on how to upgrade your radio are in the development section. Its definitely worth a shot. Yesterday I was not only losing wifi, but my 3g was going out also and I had to reboot my phone to get my 3g working. That doesn't work for me.
[Nexus S General] RogerPodacter:
how long do both icons display together? is it only for a few seconds, or do they stay on indefinitely? if only a few seconds, it could be a wifi bug where its disconnecting then reconnecting in the span of a few seconds, so in between the 3G kicks in only to turn back off when wifi reconnects.
[Nexus S General] dhp:
It is sporadic. Sometimes it comes on every 30 seconds or so then turns off. Other times, it is on indefinitely..
[Nexus S General] KryPTiCk0d3:
I read some where that having "supl" in your APN settings under APN Type might be doing it. maybe check that?
[Nexus S General] ps000x:
it started after upgrading to 2.3.3, and it seems that it's caused by the a-gps connecting to broadcom servers every 30 seconds. when i changed apn type from empty to 'default', the problem disappeared, but now it takes forever go get gps lock, as if a-gps is not working
[Xoom General] jvs60:
http://www.theopenpress.com/index.php?a=press&id=97565
[Xoom General] lanternca:
Have you tried it? does it work?
[Xoom General] jvs60:
I'm still waiting for my Xoom. It should be delivered tomorrow.
[Xoom General] monadzback:
38 bucks. lol
[Xoom General] jvs60:
They just want one arm and leg, fitting for a xoom app
[Xoom General] yao847zi:
It seems a good idea for Xoom. I would to have a try. 38buck is fine to me if it works.
[Xoom General] JaxDomino:
Heelllllllsssss no!!!!! Too much.
[Xoom General] yao847zi:
Just tried to rip my blu-ray movies to mp4 in 1080P, and play on my xoom. It works great.
[Xoom General] e.mote:
Not to be a sour grape, but FYI this is the typical spam post I've seen in other tablet forums. Read the fine print on "About Company". They'll likely land a few catches, which should be enough for them to perpetuate the spam.
[Xoom General] agentpower:
Anyone doing anything esle to rip blurays to their xoom?
[Xoom General] Procinctu:
I am ripping my own blu rays with Handbrake. Reducing to 720p settings at 2500kbps. Avatar looks great on it. I originally ripped it at 1080p, but I didn't really see any difference and it made the file a lot larger.
[Xoom General] nbajwill55:
I've been using DVDFab with moderate success.
[Xoom General] myflv723:
Yes, bluray can play on xoom, but you need convert it to mp4
[Xoom General] LsRamAir:
the dvd catalyst beta has had no problem converting my blurays to 720p. Best $10 I've spent recently.

Going to try the 1080p presets for some hdmi viewing soon.
[Xoom General] GorfinG:
I've been ripping BluRays using DVDFab as well. Reduced the screen size to 1280X720, FPS between 22-25 and all movies have looked flawless. Audio in Stero @ 96 and raised the volume to 180%.
[Xoom General] yao847zi:
DVDFab is more expensive than this one as they can both do this job great
[Xoom General] eatonjb:
There are soo many programs out there, I found Videora that works fine, just set it to iPad and it makes a Goog MP4 file that works fine on my Xoom!
[Xoom General] funnycreature:
Can Handbrake really rip DVDs and Blurays? I thought it states that it is not a ripper... :confused:

EDIT: I use AnyDVD and AVS Video Converter. Unfortunately, it does not support True HD audio tracks yet :( I also have Cyberlink Media Suite 8 but it has only very basic settings to choose from. I think the key is to use the DivX compatible .mp4 version, not the h264 which is in my experience choppy on the Xoom. But honestly, since I have most movies ripped for my iPod @640x480 I think I'll keep them at that resolution :)
[Xoom General] Procinctu:
Using AnyDVD HD and Handbrake and I am ripping blu ray movies I own. No issues so far.

Ripped Serenity, Sector 9, Avatar, Despicable Me. Tried a variety to test it out. Working great.

I actually started putting them on an HP MediaSmart WHS server and they stream great on wifi to the Xoom.

Using tvirsity to stream off of WHS.