[Epic 4G Android Development] ungovernable1977:
Wow... K0nane, Impaler... you two are the most patient people I know! People, do them a favor, read the OP, wherever you are coming from ROM, Kernel, etc -wise, follow OP instructions EXACTLY... that way he can sort out what is user error and what is a possible bug... and READ... most of your questions have been answered during the drop of this or another ROM (go further back in the thread)... just try to not kill them with the questions... they have Journaling ROMs to fix :D

And on that subject, jbadboy, you really need to back off, everyone knows your theory that we all cant keep our batteries in our phones because we are noobs (were not). Most of us who would like the option to keep it intact are people who use the same FLASH of the same ROM for more than a week or two, it seems the data isssues pile up... yes, setcpu, and RoamControl (yes its still necessary if you live where you get 0-1 bars sprint, but 4-5 VZ, and youre phone constantly switches). I never really had any data issues until twice since EB13... but through all the roms, and yes properly installing all of them, this issue tended to pile up. Maybe I didnt notice it before because I switched around a lot... but now a little speed increase is not worth the data integrity to ME and a lot of other people. I understand YOU dont run into it... keeping a slim amount of very safe apps, that way restoring after flashing is no biggie... that works for you. I need a phone that I dont have to flash on-the-fly as I have a couple times, and then load all my apps, do my settings, etc. I dont mind redoing all that once every couple weeks, or even weekly... but when I plan to, not because some apps update decided to lock up my phone, or possibly the new kernel just doesnt like that app.. it happens. Just give it a rest, its obvious that no-journaling is a priority for most devs, so you wont miss anything. People were having issues on this thread with the ROM installing for the journaling versions, not complaining about data integrity. If anyone asks about the debate about filesystems, refer them to Noobnl's first thread, and the one where we were all posting our bad block count... whether you agree with the opinions or data in them, they will keep said person busy for quite a while ;) Or, as returning journaling is the 'new' option, send them to say the midNIGHT no tweaks thread, where people who USE that version will be around to answer questions, and not be condescending. Those who simply point at a battery falling out are the eqivelent to me saying the only reason for no-journaling is your e-peen when you use quadrant 'benchmark' to get another 2% to your score. Both methods have pros and cons, and neither is really better or worse than the other. This is really dumb that there is still whiny complaints about journaling... if you dont like it, no-journaling is not going anywhere, there are too many flashaholics... your opinion has been duly noted in many threads, and really this issue should be left up to Dev discretion as to what they would like to do, and any other debate that doesnt have some figures or a reference to something other than how often you backup your system, should be considered flaming... or at least being really immature.

And seriously, I came into this thread thinking I may try out this ROM, NOT trolling, like someone did in the 'no tweaks' thread... where a person who is a big fan of no-journaling really has no business trying to debate the issue.