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[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stonewhitesrt:
anyone having this same issue with legend to slide rom? anyone know how to fix it?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] And-roid:
Hi,

I've been going through the internet with this question and have always found the same answer: "it is not possibale to turn off the phone and have the alarm clock work". now most people say its because the phone is a smartphone (:confused: not so smart if you ask me) but i have a nokia x6 which is a smartphone and this option is included in this phone.

So i guess my question is : what the heck? how hard can it be? can anyone make an app that does this? i would gladly pay for this feature as will other users i guess...why didn't samsung think of this?

and by the way my friend which has an iphone says this option is available on the iphone so i don't really buy the "not optional on smartphones".

anyway would be glad if someone had an app that does this....
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siddspain:
Same search happening here. I dont think it's possible though.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
You mean off as in off dead not switched on and asleep i take it .

That would require an app to power the phone on and set off alarm i guess .

jje
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryouza:
this is one of the better features of nokia, i don't remember what phone first introduced this, but is a shame that an android phone doesn't have this. try to put the phone into aerial mode, switch off wifi,and keep it on.that made the trick to save more the battery and have the alarm ringing at the proper time.

also the iphone,has got issues with alarms...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pascaliut:
Smartphone does not need this features anymore

I had the same question! but now I understand that smartphone does not need this features anymore.

Try to make your phone idle in "Plan mode" for 10h the battery only drain 1%. So why did you need to turn it off during the night?

I suppose that your nokia x6 also eats battery (evens very little) while turning off to maintains this features.

As you cannot expect the battery life of a smartphone beat a regular phone.

At this point we can consider that the "Plan mode" of your smartphone equivalent to "turning off mode" of nokia x6 ^^

(Just my thought with my bad english)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mossy1963:
Yeah I used to have a nokia 5800 running symbian and it would wake from off and activate alarms. Doesn't appear possible with android but I guess the question is why would you want to? It's bad practice to turn smart phones off all the time. As has been said the smart thing to do is to activate flight mode while you sleep. This is about you changing your behaviour - not your phones :-)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
It's bad practice to turn smart phones off all the time.

Rubbish you don't leave A TV on day and night nor a car running without use .

If you do not need your phone for twelve hours turn it off .

jje
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgsI9003:
I bought new I9003 & have been looking for the same feature as my 6yr old moto L7 had this feature I somehow assumed that this should be a standard feature.

I think it should be easily possible to write an app which schedules the power on /off scheme, its very handy when you are in areas where charging the phone will not be possible, moreover I don't need the incoming phone at night.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iammodo:
Would be possible on a HTC desire or HTC desire z as they don't properly turn off but the galaxy s does a full shut down.

If it was built into a kernal battery drain would be a mass problem.

Airplane mode would be just as good.

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theduckking:
A smartphone is more a computer than a phone. If it's off, you want it to be off, not just to shut everything down unless X

Nokia probably builds it's hardware to support this. since the internal clock of any computer runs at any time they probably built a trigger into it to boot up the phone to ring. On setting the alarm you program it probably into the hardware.

I think that's pretty bad design.

Anyway to answer less confused:

Android wants to have any part interchangeable and it would be kind of dangerous to let every app that poses as an alarm access the hardware on such a level they did not build it in. And since it's not in android the manufacturers (as samsung) did not give a damn about it either.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rizzy123:
I think its more to do with the android operating system which has to be loaded before the alarm turns on then samsung.

Annoying but highly useful during exams when your not too sure if your phone might ring or the alarm might go off.

But yh google should have solved this problem, Its been possible on the most basic of phones 6-7 years ago. My last 2 samsung phones that were basic (e900 and d600) both had this function.
[XPERIA X10 General] rls190687:
i found this on facebook if it has been posted befor then sorry

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=283958346371&topic=16031

and

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=283958346371&topic=15977

they tell us why the wont update past 2.1
[XPERIA X10 General] lesath76:
they're not supporting customers, and they're not supporting supporters who supports customers..
[XPERIA X10 General] theskeptic:
So Aimee is basically saying 2.1 kernel + 2.2/2.3 firmware = good but 2.2/2.3 kernel + 2.2/2.3 firmware = crap. How can that possibly be right when the newer kernels are supposed to be more optimised. Derp.
[XPERIA X10 General] violentgoomba:
The sad thing is, some people will believe Aimee's bull about how the x10 doesn't run froyo well.

And people who know better will feel insulted.
[XPERIA X10 General] fiscidtox:
Their generic responses are both hilarious and frustrating... I can't believe they actually expect people to buy that.
[XPERIA X10 General] caifanX10:
Looks like Aimee is "programmed" to repeat and repeat the same answer. And she doesn't answer when ppl talk about benchmark scores.

That only proves one thing, SE didn't update X10 for just one reason: they didn't want to.
[XPERIA X10 General] JDwan:
Yeah, they could have at least tried a bit harder to come up with a better excuse.
[XPERIA X10 General] dave2:
Their stupid excuses aren't fooling anyone. It's fascinating that a company like Sony Ericsson knows less about their own products and the os than the devs here do. They admit making mistakes on the X10 (it doesn't mean they should stop supporting it) but instead, they release a whole bunch of new phones with nearly all the same hardware and capabilities as the X10, wow.
[XPERIA X10 General] rls190687:
one person hit the nail on the head when they said "y dont you give us stock android for the x10 instead of the sony ui timescape and media scape are not needed if your devs tested stock android then it would run fast we dont need the sony crap " thank god for xda :)
[XPERIA X10 General] theskeptic:
Love to be a fly on the wall of the SE boardroom when they discover we're all flashing our X10s with their ARC firmware (which will be today hopefully). I swear they live in their own little reality that bears no resemblance to the world the rest of us live in. They've been shown to be incompetent then try to cover their asses with glaringly obvious lies. SE reminds me of a child who thinks if they cover their eyes they become invisible.
[XPERIA X10 General] rls190687:
trips at it again

have a look at this

he's testing his arc rom on the x10

more info here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=11743300#post11743300
[XPERIA X10 General] pshdo:
IF s/e did release a 2.2 or 2.3 update, the X10 would actually run so fast that the ARC loose it's news value...

The ONLY thing the ARC has to show is increased speed...

They say that ARC run about 4 times faster than the X10, but already the devs here has proved that the X10 can also run 4 times faster with custom firmware...

So why should S/E loose those potential ARC-speed craving customers in the process...

IF S/E WAS fair, they would support the X10 with the latest firmware for at least 2 years, but we all know their history, they DON'T care about the customers at all...

They only care about sell as low support and crappy product as possible...

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[XPERIA X10 General] fiscidtox:
Htc manages to do it with their older phones and still sell plenty so even if they were to try and use that argument it would fail.

If anything people would respect them more and would come back to buy another SE phone for their next phone.

P.S.- I like the "Lost" reference :P
[XPERIA X10 General] caifanX10:
Could anyone explain how this phone with an inferior processor than X10's is upgradable to Gingerbread?

Looks like not only Arc is capable to run A2.3, as SE tries to convince us...
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
First, I have been running 2.2 without APPS2SD on my X10a for about a week, and I have to tell you that I completely understand SE's statement regarding the unique x10 2.1 user experience being a fair / equal alternative to vanilla / generic 2.2 Froyo. To be fair, my 2.1 experience is with JIT enabled and junk apps removed. My quadrant score is significantly higher on 2.2 and the browser is faster, but that is where it ends. To be honest, does anyone even know what these scores mean?

I think it boils down to the "feel", and I like customized 2.1 feel and use better. Especially the messenger and phonebook. The home screen lags like I have never seen before on beta4 2.2. The scrolling app tray is unresponsive and cave man slow. Apps don't open up immediately no matter if I use stock or ADW. It goes back to the home screen, then takes a couple seconds for the app to open. Adding widgets or shortcuts to the homescreen takes minutes and multiple attempts. Dualtouch/touchscreen is terrible. Force close apps frequently.

I also have heard from other members, including a couple advanced users, that they too prefer the X10 2.1 optimized experience over generic 2.2 and have gone to a modified stock 2.1 Rom found on xda, that has all the cool optimizations including zip aligned apps for even faster performance.

Yes, there are a few apps that need 2.2, but I don't use them (yet). The main one I was looking at using was voice actions by Google. However, I like Vlingo app just as much.

Edit: If the Arc ROM is that portable to the x10, you know for sure that SE has known this all along. They couldn't say it publicly and expect to sell new Arcs, so all you whiners and SE bashers can shut up if this is true. Insert foot in mouth.
[XPERIA X10 General] fiscidtox:
^^hahahahahahhaa that definitely gets the "retarded post of the day award"

What version of 2.2 did you use that was slow? Mine is lightning fast!

Some people will force themselves to believe anything :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] caifanX10:
The point here is, one more time: if X10 is already good with stock Eclair (I know 'cause Im using it right now, I haven't tried any custom A2.2 ROM... yet, so I can't talk about it), why not delivering at least stock A2.2 if X10 could run it very well? Some call that "strategy", but hey, Im pretty sure not all of us are gonna run to buy Arc as soon as is available just to have stock Gingerbread... I personally won't do it. So, I can't see any good strategy in that... But well, I will want to see SE's financial reports at the end of 2011, if they success they could shut us up and I'll accept they were right. But if not... Ups.

We got this debate before, and the arguments that you, SE defenders used were: X10 isn't getting A2.2 'cause time consuming, testing, etc. etc. But at my point of view, releasing little updates (.24, .435, etc. build ROMs) and developing useless apps like Timescape is a waste of time, time that could be used to deliver a proper A2.2 stock 'system' (as Aimee in Facebook calls it).

And you can't criticize a custom ROM in that way, thanks to the bootloader the devs can't deliver a full working Android version. SE has a big advantage in this game, but they should know that they aren't selling only software, is the piece of hardware that matters.
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Dude, you are still so far off base. It's not that SE couldn't. They decided to go a certain direction with the X10 from the beginning, and they are following through with that vision. Generic/vanilla Android is not X10. It never was.

I am not trashing anyone's custom ROMs. In all actuality, it's not their custom ROM. It is base model, generic Android. Do you understand what that means? Go to the grocery store, and look at the cereal ilse. The generic/store brand in the plain white box, with no toy surprise inside, that doesn't have quite the same amount of flavor or marshmellow treats inside

is Generic/Vanilla.

Maybe you kids will understand this... It's like you booked a vacation to California to go to Disneyland, but then you heard half way through your vacation that DisneyWorld in Orlando, Florida has a new ride so you expect Disneyland to build the same ride or to fly you to Orlando for free. How about NO! Disneyland has stuff that DisneyWorld doesn't, so go to DisneyWorld on your next vacation.

Lastly, you obviously don't know much about business cycles. IF, and I mean IF, SE was going to feel any financial backlash for not updating the X10 to 2.2, it would take a year or more to show up on their financials. They already got your money. The only way you can get back at SE is the next time you buy a phone in a year by going with another company. I bet even then, you would buy SE again if they had the right device.
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Beta 4. Now what?

Didn't say it wasnt fast. Said my 2.1 optimized is just as fast and I like the UI customizations including the phonebook and messenger. I did say the homescreen was slow, which the devs probably agree with because they are all using third party apps.

How do you enjoy having to scroll down through your entire phonebook to find a name? Do you like not being able to access your contacts list in the messenger? Or do you not have these problems with only 10 contacts?

How about the 3d app tray that snaps back only allowing you to scroll down a couple rows at a time? Do you like swiping your finger 10 times to get to the bottom of the list where your xda app is? Or do you only have a few apps?

My X10 was already fast, so vanilla 2.2 didn't do much for me. I can see it being a big difference for those who never tried to tweak or optimize 2.1. Now I don't use APPS2SD, so that could be a completely different story.
[XPERIA X10 General] rtblittlebrown:
Bsbs. If it works better on 2. 1 kernel how come they don't just developed a 2. 3 with the old kernel
[XPERIA X10 General] :
Actually, you're right in some points. Personally I'd but another SE phone IF they deliver a complete one that is upgradable to the latest Android versions that the phone CAN run with no problems. I'd hate to see, for example, all that excited ppl bitting their fingers for the anxiety of having Arc on their hands being disappointed 'cause SE would announce "only one major system update: A2.4 and no more beyond that". Looking the situation under that point of view, that's the policy of SE... Would they take the right direction by taking a decision like that? Why?

I'd also hate to say "I told you". But, if that's not what they do, and they decide to deliver more Android updates higher than 2.4 to Arc, then does that mean Arc owners will have that benefit but X10 don't deserved it? Why? Is that fair? Paid money buying Arc is more valuable than X10's?

Saying X10 is their first Android phone and they couldn't work more on it is an excuse. Your argument confirms the theory: they simply didn't want to give a higher Android version to the X10. That definitely subtracts credibility to SE and when I say I wanna see their future financial reports, I mean I wanna see if they will sell Arc as much as they expect. So yeah, you're right, the only way we can do something against that is not buying another SE phone. Believe me, I won't in 2011, in 2012 and in the begining of 2013, I'd buy a SE phone if they deliver something that I like. If not, HTC, Samsung, LG etc. are around with some interesting options. Have you seen the forums of other phones? They talk about different things but not about the poorness of not upgrading to a newer Android version. That's the reason about all this "whinning" and "complaining".

And about the example of Disneyland... Well, here's another example: Anaheim's Disneyland couldn't have that new ride than Florida's, but it could have another good one in Disney California Adventure so ppl who are going to Anaheim can have a good time too, without "desiring" the other ride in Orlando and everyone would be happy. Believe me, with X10 running official Froyo (not even Gingerbread) all this discussion wouldn't exist and SE wouldn't be one of the most attacked companies on these days... Or they might like being in that position... dunno.
[XPERIA X10 General] fiscidtox:
BS I have used both and beta 4 owns stock in speed hands down in every single department.

Stock was the largest worst experience you could have with a phone.they slapped so much garbage onto android that it was barely even useable..
[XPERIA X10 General] will.m:
I have to agree with this. FreeX10 Froyo is snappy as hell. There is absolutely no comparison between stock and FreeX10. I'm not even sure how anyone can say that there isn't a huge improvement in speed and responsiveness.
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Dude, what's up with you completely twisting facts and putting words in my mouth so you can post a comment? Your significant other has to hate that.

First, I never said anything about stock 2.1 vs. 2.2, and I never said 2.2 was slow. Are you retarded should be the question. I don't want to argue with someone with special needs.

Have you heard of rooting your phone, enabling JIT, and removing all the bloatware? Try using search. If you do all those things, I find the User Experience is not greatly improved by going to generic 2.2. Shoot, you do those things and you are halfway to generic 2.2.

That is my opinion. I even said that the browser and quadrant score was faster on 2.2, but I like the FEEL

of my optimized 2.1 better. A tenth of a second in speed didn't make up for the things I missed from 2.1. Do you understand now or would you like me to draw you a picture? :p
[XPERIA X10 General] fiscidtox:
So I put the words in your mouth that beta 4 was slow as hell in the app drawer or on the homescreen and that optimized 2.1 felt faster?

Strange anyone can read back and see where you said that..

I'm simply saying that your point about se saying that 2.3 wouldn't work good on x10 because you feel that 2.1 is perfect holds no weight. The fact still stands that you had to optimize in order for it to be useable, and if anything their new version of gingerbread without so much bloatware would almost definitely speed up the x10... So their claim that their 2.1 is a better experience makes no sense...

I hope no one in this forum is actually special needs because if so your post is fairly offensive..
[XPERIA X10 General] MJ_QaT:
So SE will lose the case whether they update the Arc or not :p

The way I see it, updating the device officially will not affect most of the people here ( the 10% of non-average users ), because in either ways we can update it here to whatever version we want.

So we really don't need them to update it.

The only problem is the bootloader, which limits us from using any Kernals we want. Unlocking the bootloader will solve most of the problems here.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Have to agree with agentJBM here... I've tried the FreeX10 ROMs twice now, beta2 and beta4, and I always found myself coming back to the stock 2.1 ROM (ofcourse, root, jit, etc) I like how everything is connected..with the 2.1.1, it isn't as laggy as before(ofcourse, freex10 owns it when it comes to responsiveness and speed) but I really love Timescape and Mediascape, and stock android is plain ugly. I haven't found a single theme that is as good as the stock SE one (again, personal opinion)

Having said all that, I do miss using a lot of 2.2 apps - I used to use chrome2phone atleast 10 times a day, voice actions to dictate texts, also Google Listen and the music player used to have lock screen controls in Froyo.

What I'm saying is, I don't think SE have any excuse for not upgrading the OS, but as of now I guess I'm happy with what I have - if the Arc ROM works perfectly then that will be my new favorite :D
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
You are the one who got offensive calling me "retarded". Special needs is the politically correct terminology.

You are extremely confused. I haven't mentioned 2.3 or Gingerbread in this thread. I said scrolling in the app tray is cave man slow. With 2.1 JIT enabled, I can scroll from top to bottom with one swipe. With the 2.2 3D app tray it snaps back only allowing me to scroll down through a few lines of apps. It takes 8-10 swipes to get from one end to the other. I feel like a Cave Man scratching at my phone trying to make it scroll. Scroll 10 times fast while watching yourself in the mirror...that's Cave Man Slow. Also, now mine goes back to the homescreen before it opens certain apps or games, like Angry Birds. Not making it up. Doesn't yours do that? Well, I don't like it, among other things, which is my prerogative.

I also said the browser is faster and quadrant score is significantly higher, but I like the FEEL of my optimized 2.1 better. How can you argue with which ROM I prefer?

Take a moment to look back. You will see that you have blended someone else with me and taken segments of what I said out of context to fit your debate.
[XPERIA X10 General] Timbits93:
I can bet you that you'll stick with the Arc rom TripNArc released once all the kinks are worked out :D

Well then again same with me, the interface is more unified compared to stock android or some of the cyanogen mods. Mostly because manufacturers like SE design the overaly to be unified.
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
I've been on the edge of my seat with my xda app open on my X10a non-stop since Trip said only a few hours for a fully functional 2.3 Arc/Gingerbread ROM. Getting tired now. It's 4:45 am here in Florida. Oh well, no sleep tonight. Work is going to be rough, but who am I kidding... nothing is getting done till I have TripNArc on my X10. :-)
[XPERIA X10 General] tryantar:
i dunno about you guys but im lovin my x10i with or without ops. ive been fooling around with the sdk and even on the com it lags so im not sure if its only me but im sticking with stock x10..
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
I'll say it here.

The Arc is the nicest cellphone I have ever used. Aside from the lack of front facing camera, the thing is leagues better than anything on the market. It's insanely thin, insanely fast, and the screen is beautiful.

I installed Quadrant on the store's Arc, it got around 1400 with a ton of **** running in the background. The FPS tests all hit 60.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Arc released in Japan? :o
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Not yet. :( Preorders start Friday, goes on sale on the 24th.

Beautiful phone. It's a whole level removed from the X10.

Here's some screens!
[XPERIA X10 General] :
Woooooow! You have gave light to my life!! Im running to sell my X10 and I'll be the first person buying Arc the first day is in my country! Hell, Im going to pre-order it right now!

:D

Honestly, I don't deny Arc is a nice phone (No, I don't hate it no matter if sometimes looks like I do, if someone give me Arc as a present, I won't reject it :D), probably the thinest phone in the market, etc. But calling it the best phone around... Well, let's see what other brands have to say about that.

Also, if the phone gives a good quadrant score with just one core, I don't even image what could be with a double core processor :eek: