yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anandsamuel:
Hi Rick,

To answer your question - why so much work occurs with Android, I would like to take the liberty of rephrasing the question - why so much work occurs with Android phones? There isnt one correct answer for this.

You are correct in saying that carriers and service providers like to cripple the phone before they hand it over to the consumer. So when you buy the phone you really are not using these wonderful pieces of technology to their fullest extent. Thanks to our developers here at XDA because of whom we can in reality free the phones that we paid much moolah for, so that we maybe able to use all of the fones features that have been designed to work in conjunction with the wonderful Android OS.

Secondly, the reason why so much work goes into the phones and development to improve the functionality of the phone is because that is what Android has been designed for. Consumer can customize the phone to their liking and does not have to get stuck with the proprietary, grid like systems like the ones iphone has. Phone manufacturers, and not just Samsung, obviously design the phones software in such a way so that there is always room for improvement. They bet their dollar on the fact that an average consumer will eventually buy a newer product when its released and marketed in the future. There is always something lacking in the product that is in the market right now and that is where all this work comes into play.

Now, whether you shud buy a samsung captivate or not and what the time requirement is, is totally dependent on what you want to use the phone for and what kind of functionality you would like to get out of it.

From what you said that ur not a person who wud like to spend a lot of time modifying or playing around with your phone, you wud still like the captivate. Samsung Captivate is a very nice phone overall. Its got almost everything that you cud want in a phone. In regards to apps included with the phone, you've got a decent selection along with loads of bloatware.... ;) If there is anything missing you can easily find it on the android market.

If you're expecting that your GPS would work right out of the box, then the answer is, maybe - maybe not. and its not android's fault, its a samsung issue. There are multiple fixes for the GPS that you can find on the forum, that being said, if you plan on utilizing those fixes, like you said not only will you void your warranty but you alone will be venturing into that experiment on your phone and dev will not be responsible for any damage that may or may not happen to your phone. But then again no guts, no glory.

So all in all, if you do end up getting the captivate, i dont think you'll be utterly disappointed, but at the same time i dont think you'll be able to sit back either when you see all these new developments posted here.

Hopefully i helped you a little and if i said too much then i apologize.

I welcome any senior member of the forum to correct me if im wrong and/or make any additions to what ive said above..

happy forumming....
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MikeyMike01:
My brother has a Samsung focus. It's buggy as hell, completely counter intuitive, and incomplete. Theres also no apps at all. He has like 3 different crappy youtube apps and sound boards.

And there's no CM7 to one day fix it.

Sent from my Captivate.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RAVC1:
anandsamuel,

An excellent response; truly what I was looking for to understand the issues involved regarding Android and SmartPhones. You did not say too much.

I guess I need to start reading so I understand how to root a Captivate!

Rick
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MikeyMike01:
Also, that font is irritating to read.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
ok lets slow you down there. first android is linux BASED not linux. there is no need to worry about OS/ device compatibility. the most interaction between the phone and PC are just file copying like through a usb thumb drive.

the next part regarding carriers/updates/samsung. you answered yourself, kinda, and backwards. Samsung didnt blow it.

Google android updates as much as any software does - to make things better.

they release to manufacturers so they can make it work with their hardware.

Samsung released on time, BUT TO THE CARRIERS.

the carriers then take what samsung gave them and add their carrier specific settings (APN ect) and applications (bloatware).

ATT blew the update timeline.

Sometimes manufacturers release their finished product as "source code" untouched by carriers.

the long process is necessary in each step to (attempt) to make a perfect software package that will work with each phone/carrier out of the box for the end user. so it is unfair to say "born out of the decision of carriers to control OS releases to specific phones"

XDA works off of source codes and carrier releases to make our custom updates.

there are ways to return your phone without them knowing what you did. dont worry too much about your "voided" warranty.

before i felt comfortable flashing I took about 3 days reading my A$$ off! and currently im off on workers comp. so that was 3 FULL days. even then i had issues and mistakes and my phone was out of service a few nights! but that is part of the fun.

you do not need to be the type of person to constantly update your phone to buy it. tens of thousands of people have this phone on stock firmware and it fully works. the extra effort and time that we here at XDA and cyanogenMOD do is more out of fun, and customization. Many would argue function as well, as we do sometimes fix things *better* than google/samsung/carriers. but things willl *usually* still function on stock even if on a basic level.

you only need to put in as much as you want to get out of it

so timeline,

flashing custom roms/themes PROPERLY - under a week

cutting and pasting roms frankenROMS - under a month or 2

creating - vast back knowlege of programming, ect YEAR(S)

regarding wanting to update often, not every update on XDA to your rom is necessary unles it fixes something you didnt have.

Each Android/Carrier update, would be recomended (or the XDA counterpart) as each new android

version

(not rom) contains the most updates/fixes. so if you were running a 2.2 (custom or stock) rom it WOULD be worth upgrading to 2.3 when available (custom or stock). but you dont NEED to update your custom rom every couple weeks when they put out their minor update on the same base rom (2.2 for eg.)

no comment. best regards
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RAVC1:
Trusselo,

Excellent, thoughtful response; it helped characterize this activity further for me. My concern is now recognized (and conveyed to others...) as not wanting to be required to become a developer to make my involvement with a SmartPhone constructive. Samsung, Android, XDA looks very good to me. As you mentioned, my reading has begun.

Yes, something is not right with my traditional Comic Sans Serif font here; it seems to compress it horizontally, but my aging eyes typically need this font.
[Off-topic] Sanbourne:
I started watching his videos, all of them... then i read his channel to find out he was KIA. Not sure why but i feel really bad now for some reason.

Just wanted to make a thread to remember all of the United States soldiers serving in the Middle East and all around the world.

Also Soldiers from other countries that are serving their country.

They will never be forgotten.

http://www.youtube.com/user/LilJay1999
[Off-topic] Zopaa:
R. I. P.
[Off-topic] el-jodio:
Amen.
[Off-topic] souljaboy:
"Older men declare war, but it is the youth that must fight and die."

Herbert Hoover US mining engineer & politician (1874 - 1964)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] los0325:
How long till we see teamwhiskey drop or n e other developers drop that as a rom????
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ejamin73:
1 st.....................
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cito11:
Nice contribution.

@OP last I heard they took a break to work on Frost. Why not ask at the TW forums?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amandadam:
Is that you,Walt?Lol
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] los0325:
Excellent idea I will do so... thanks
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sombionix:
We're working on it as we speak.

PS. Patience
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cito11:
Ahem, call me Heisenberg :) lol.

No problem. Seems like you got your answer here though.

Nice.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bdubs4200:
holy **** som dropped a clue!??... typical :D

(very,very excited for it)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CrazyCharlie:
Not nice to ask devs for ETA's. Be patient and goodness will come your way.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdm4u:
really op? Be patient. Not only are they doing this on their spare time, but they update their roms faster than the actual phone manufacturers. So relax and enjoy the awesome rom's they have out now. Bionix 1.3 is amazing. I'm running that on my phone and I flashed Frost on my other vibrant. Frost is amazing as well. I can't decide which to use daily lol.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jRi0T68:
Holy crap... Can't anyone just be content with the amazing work that is bionix-v 1.3 and Frost?

Frost was JUST released! These things don't get made overnight. They've said they're working on it, and they cannot possibly begin to fathom what kindof bugs they'll encounter in the development process before they can even release the first test to us.

Som- Thanks to you, Krylon, and the rest of the team for all your work and putting up with our impatience.

P.S. When will you have Honeycomb working on our phones?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Exel:
I lol'd, good one.

Anyway, it's being worked on, as som said earlier in this thread, and Krylon said in his Frost thread.

Just be patient, it'll come. c:
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ejamin73:
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!! :D
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ejamin73:
That's absolutely true. They do amazing things in their spare time that they could spend in other things (family for example) to give us this amazing roms. Patience,patience,patience................ :D
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C-4Nati:
Look som and TW does this as a hobby and to be generous. Stop being impatient and asking when. They have lives too. It will be done when its done. Id much rather have a finished product ie. A daily driver instead of 1000 betas, which is why it takes time.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cito11:
Everyone's telling him to relax and such, but he isn't rushing anyone. He just asked for an ETA in a relatively polite manner, trust me I've seen worse. Some people seem to think they're owed roms by the devs.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] themrjason:
i'd rather stay with 2.2 than have a buggy 2.3 rom. but i know some people have to have the newest sometimes...It wasn't long ago that everyone was screaming to get 2.2 on their phone. It's kinda like the guy that sold his xp laptop the first day vista came out. Just saying that there is no need to rush updates to operating systems.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] los0325:
@ som thanks for the clue and yes I do got patience just was a little curious... and u got some dope ass roms I've tried just about everyones but find my way back to yours.. and every time I see your post I think of your picture with the purse (no homo) Jajajaja... what's up with that?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Assimilated Android:
Patience is a Virtue...

i have been reading the heck out of these xda posts and your tw forums and i appreciate all the good work you do. i've asked a few questions between here and chat, but i have learned most by reading and being patient. when i have some money, i plan to donate to you guys but i am broke right now. i am presently running your bionix 1.3 rom w/the latest overstock 1.3 kernel, very few problems so far, however i am still evaluating battery life after turning off bln w/bln pro app. i do plan on flashing bionix 1.3.1 soon. again, thx 4 the excellent work that tw does! take your time with future roms as i can see the quality (not quantity) of your work. in the mean time (while we patiently wait), thank you for the buttery smooth 1.3+ roms you have developed! :p
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krylon360:
Yes, we are working on it as Som said. Almost messed up my phone pretty bad last night doing so. I got to see all the purty colors. lol, and lost all contents on BOTH sd's. heh.

Currently running the i9k leak but it also has it's issues.

As far as Honeycomb, I have looked into porting it, however, due to the fact our phones can't accept a boot.img, it will be a hell of a task and frankly, I just dont have the time for that.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jRi0T68:
Lol, Krylon. You've looked into honeycomb? I was joking. :D

No need for a tablet os on a phone.

Now, if you can get them to hurry up on Android 2.4, please do. (I wish this forum supported the dodgy smiley to show sarcasm).

Bionix Frost

Dragon Kernel v5 Test4
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hagarza:
Oh man oh man......i hope it has the screen off effect. Thats the only thing keeping me at CM7.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] epakrat75:
I don't see the need, utility, sense, etc in porting a tablet OS to a phone anyway. The HC upgrades will likely be backported to the Gingerbread series soon enough anyway. Just keep doing what you're doing. You're all awesome! :cool:
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xriderx66:
you guys do know that HoneyComb is NOT just for tablets right?

2.4 or is it 2.5? well whatever the update AFTER the official honeycomb is STILL honeycomb but optimized for phones.

2.5(?) won't be called ICECREAM like many anticipated, but it's like HONEYCOMB VERSION 2!!!!!!!!!!!

god i'm confused by the version numbers -.-'
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vibrantnew-b:
SamsungJohn called me last night and said that due to our phones getting so fat from all the sweets they are going to move in a new direction and look at names like lettuce or parsley.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thegreatcity:
Where did you hear this?

In the first video for Honeycomb by Google, it says "Made for Tablets". Also all the news that I've read says what you've said, about them being merged, but not that it would still be called Honeycomb. 2.4 is said to still be called Gingerbread.

Actually as Im typing this, I can see how someone would easily get confused hahaha
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DCrozier28:
I have a better question. If you didn't like the question the OP wrote then why did you respond?? Just ignore it. He didn't ask in a way that was rushing. He was curious. I think a lot of people are. I don't think a lot of people on here understand the concept of a forum. Its supposed to aid in asking questions (no matter how stupid), find answers and discuss. If you dont like the question then just move on. Don't be a prick!! FYL!!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jRi0T68:
My point was that asking for an eta that early was asinine. It's impossible to answer that early in development, plus when I posted that, there were a ton of similar threads.

Things have changed in the last few days and now it's a better question, but I'd still just let them work and when their internal alphas work out their bugs and graduate to a beta build, maybe we'll hear about it.

Bionix Frost

Dragon Kernel v5 Test4
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] los0325:
Jajaja move along .. your not welcomed in this thread...

On a side note its getting juicy all over the vibrant development section can't wait and I wont ask for an ETA because some followers of these wonderful devs get butt hurt...

PS. GO spurs GO
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chaosiscandytome21:
I am very glad the TW crew is on the case. I very much look forward to this part of the future!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CatfishKnight:
Ohhhh....

I am getting Chilly and Frosty as I think about it....

:cool:
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] zman2010:
Hey Guys

Just installed Honey Comb on Nook Color and was able to install an app before but after an hour or so I can't install any applications from the market. It will find app, say install, click okay, looks like it starts to install but then nothing. I've even tried turning the nook off and on but still no difference.

Can anyone help me out with this problem?

Thanks
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] themitchy:
Dammit, got the exact same problem.

It goes

1. click on the 'free' button for an app to install

2. click on OK after accept permissions

3. an OK/Cancel button set comes up and then disappears

It flashes 'your app will be downloaded' and then nothing.
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] devis:
I had the same problem thats why I abandoned HC after that 2 minute "wow" effect was over.
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] 511pf:
I could install apps, but things like Facebook and Twitter were missing from the HC market, and it was slow at 800 Mhz. I abandoned for now, but will try again, maybe with an overclock if/when there is an official release.
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] 360Razir:
Check out this link...I find all the apps I need, including apps made for a tablet (More Good News HD, New York Times). Unfortunately cannot grab Google Body, but that is a whole different matter. Running HC EMMC and it works great and is very snappy with OC 1100 kernel.

http://nookdevs.com/Honeycomb_Google_Apps_and_Market
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nfamisnme:
Txt messages wont go out, I'm running dk28, viper-rom Trinity2 rooted of course with the 1.2 ghz kernal from roddrick. Any ideas?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xTmDarren:
update PRL.. fixed mine.. on eb13
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nfamisnme:
well i tried to update prl, and update my sprint profile, and then the problem became intermitten. I just wiped the phone clean and installed eb13 and now when i try to send an mms i get a force close, as well as all the other issues, like sports mode on the camera and also alot of my apps like xda also force close. and facebook doesnt send me alerts, and ideas????
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeerChameleon:
When u say you wiped it, did u use odin? I reccomend that since you are having so many issues. Just odin back to d118 and start over.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nfamisnme:
yeah, sorry i did wipe with odin back down to d107, then i used odin to flash to d118, and now im going to try to use odin to flash to eb13. before i did used odin to flash back down to d107, then i used the samsung installation to install eb13. im hoping this new method works out. i will update when im done....pray for me.....lol
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nfamisnme:
how did u flash to eb13, is there a specific way to do it?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nfamisnme:
Well I used odin to flash back to d107, then I used odin to flash to flash to d118, and then I flashed to eb13. Then I rooted and installed clockwork mod 3, and then installed the 1.2 genocide kernal and then (I did not use any programs to back up my apps) I re-downloaded all of the apps I use, and my problems are almost gone. Now I have the same issues as everyone else, as far as the mms goes, I can send pictures but not audio clips or video clips, when I try I get a foce close. Oh and the sports mode on the camera force closes, and to adjust for the blurry pictures I took off the automatic focus. The camera pictures look better.....
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DrKaotica:
I've been having some problems with my sms staying in a sending status.. problem has continued over several custom eb13 roms I've flashed. Thinking it may be my current flash of the eb13 modem. Did u try just odining the modem over? Would rather not start from scratch unless I have to
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nfamisnme:
Yeah I did reflash to stock, it works fine until I root. And I flashed back to d107
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] patrick.pilcher:
I used to use a Sony Ericsson X10a running Android 1.6 and managed to score a Gaslaxy (sweet!) however Android market still thinks my handset is an X10a and downloads from it fail. Google are unable to provide any answers - has anyone else had similar issues? Any and all help would be awesome as this is driving me bonkers
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] pikachu01:
Do a reboot, force close and clear data. Then try again.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] patrick.pilcher:
Thanks for the suggestion - I did a full factory reset and that didnt make an iota of difference, I'm still getting "download was unsuccessful, please try again". the funny thing is that APTKOR works fine even though appbrain fails.....
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] tempura:
Try logging into youtube with your gmail account. Then try market again
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] androidsjonnie:
Go to the market website, log in there. Once logged in, you can change your settings, choose galaxy s is your current device.

Let me know if it works.
[HTC Inspire 4G] tdesbien31:
long story short, i tried using the Hack Kit, and cant complete the root. I get stuck at "/data/local/tmp/root" it wont find the file.

So now my question is rather than run a gimped Desire HD, how do i get back to the stock Inspire rom?
[HTC Inspire 4G] jlusco:
you can use this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=961406 and i belive it will take you back to stock in the end and it is simple to use
[HTC Inspire 4G] tdesbien31:
Ok, ill give it a shot, where are the install instructions?
[HTC Inspire 4G] bubby323:
Check your pm's. I would be happy to get you rooted, don't give up. You are already almost done. I can have you done and running in no time if you wish. My gtalk is geek.preston@gmail.com , message me on there if you want me to help you. :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] tdesbien31:
Awesome, hopefully you can help me out.
[HTC Inspire 4G] attn1:
You're almost done - don't give up there. Stop in IRC and you will finish in less than 20 minutes.
[Atrix 4G General] surfernia:
Considering that Xoom is out and holds similar specifications as Atrix. I'm wondering once we get the bootloader cracked and give us the absolute privilege to change/mod the system-wide on Atrix. We'd be able to transfer some files from Xoom to Atrix.

For example: Motorola Xoom has 2MP front facing camera. Once that 2mp camera get sold to a distributor to "repair" the "broken ffc" in other word we can use it to upgrade/mod our low-grade VGA FFC camera?

We buy the MDM9600 chipset and solder it into our Motorola Atrix to make it future-proof for any HSPA+ or LTE network? Motorola Xoom has MDM9600 from my understanding, so that gives us the leverage to hack into the kernel. Maybe load the same system files / kernel to make it function-able chipset?

I guess I'm jumping ahead in the game, I only can say I am incredibly excited to get things started but only get held back with the inability to unlock the bootloader to play with the Atrix's kernel. Otherwise, I'm only dreaming here.

:-)
[Atrix 4G General] neer2005:
Wouldnt the mobo be different ? Plus Xoom runs on honeycomb while Atrix runs froyo
[Atrix 4G General] surfernia:
I only can say it's designed by Motorola and I wouldn't be surprised it's a lot similar. Xoom is a flagship to Google's Gingerbread. It runs same Tegra2 chipset and I don't think it is THAT much of a difference between Xoom and Atrix. Correct me if I'm wrong?
[Atrix 4G General] neer2005:
I don't know for sure bro
[Atrix 4G General] CC Lemon:
While I can't say for sure what else could be affected, this video (linked below) indicates that it's not all the same. There might be some similarities but it might also be more complex than it seems on the surface.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLNjHyAi8BI @ 1:39