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[Epic 4G Android Development] fishfuzz:
Options?

Disclaimers: I know WiFiTether is experimental. ;)

So I had an almost disaster yesterday. I was far away from home, tethering to my phone with the newest rev of WiFiTether when a call came in. I answered and after a few seconds, the phone reset. After restarting, the FCs starting popping up and I knew I had toasted the OS.

My question for the group is this: what are you doing for WiFi-based tether? Are you simply making Clockwork backups before traveling in case this happens to you? Is there a way to add journaling that would prevent this from happening?
[Epic 4G Android Development] jockovonred:
Nandroid backup and restore will enable journaling to address the FC's due to improper/incomplete shutdown.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Craigmier:
I had same problem. Rom was working fantastic for weeks. Then I updated a bunch of apps and then the screen would not wake up after it went off. Had to pull the battery and now I am getting 10 million FC's. Is it too late for me to fix this? I did not make a Nandroid backup since flashing this ROM. Can I do it now and reload it somehow? My fear is loosing the contacts I added since last contact backup, I have a new girls number I really dont wanna lose. How can I get rid of force closes without completely wiping? Or atleast get the contact back before a wipe? PLEASE HELP.

ps, rom was great until now
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jacoby6000:
Will we get Voodoo color in the next release? Would be awesome :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] razorseal:
got the email forceclosing, but i started to use K9, so it's ok

but now all the SMS apps are force closing. handcent and messaging...

wtf is going on?
[Epic 4G Android Development] s84471:
Not sure if this is a ROM thing or something wrong with my SD card, but recording in 720p always freezes at ~9 seconds.

Seems to work fine at lower resolutions, which is why I suspected it might be my SD card (since 720p requires more throughput to the card), but that fact that it almost always freezes at the same spot makes me wonder if something else is causing it.

I'm running SRF 1.1.0 with Twilight Kernel 1.1.0 if that helps.

Don't really use the camcorder much, so it's really not that big of a deal that it doesn't work in HD, but it'd still be nice to have a fix for those rare occasions I do want to shoot video.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mutiny32:
You might as well go ahead and wipe and reflash. It's obviously your fault that it broke. /sarcasm

But really, reflash.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jeremyglass:
No fix I am guessing....this is happening to a lot of people and they are just telling us to clear the data but that doesnt work (keeps happening)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mutiny32:
It's user error.
[Epic 4G Android Development] othan1:
I have had 0 problems with any functionality of this phone after flashing this ROM on the day it was released. None. 0, zilch.

I'm sorry I can't help with the problems that exist but you need to start looking at other causes than the ROM.

What have you installed? Have you tried to go back to stock and install just the ROM to get a baseline before installing other applications? Are you restoring using a tool other than the ones recommended by the developer? Are you using third party applications which require specific root files? etc., etc.
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
But if it only has issues for some people, it's those users' fault, right? ;-) lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] zack4290:
Im trying to flash to the new modem with odin where do I place the .tar file pda? phone? csc? and do I need a pit for or just the .tar been awhile since i used odin
[Epic 4G Android Development] Craigmier:
Please somebody help-

Am getting FC's up the ying yang after battery pull cuz screen wouldnt wake up. Anyway to get rid of this without doing a full wipe and reflash? I dont want to loose my contacts I added since last backup... ANYBODY PLEASE????
[Epic 4G Android Development] anavias:
Well, having the link lost in a 8000+ post thread doesn't help either. :)

I appreciate you installing mediawiki and providing the server space, but I was wondering if we do something easier, and possibly on something like Google spaces, possibly linked to the source hosting site (if we are using google code).

Google spaces is quite a bit easier in terms of editing as well. Mediawiki is powerful, but I really don't think we need anything quite like that. Just a place where we can place links to relevant posts in this thread.

Regardless, I do think we need a link to a wiki that our developers agree on, and it should be linked in the first couple posts...

EDIT: nevermind, it looks like Google Sites doesn't allow public editing. I don't know if there is a good alternative. I guess mediawiki is as good as any. I started creating a few pages.
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
Lots of times if clearing data doesn't work deleting the app via market and reinstalling fixes it. I have only had one app not work after doing this but I just pushed it to the system/app folder and 100% of all apps I have installed work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] nikon120:
Although this thread has 8k+ posts, the search feature does work if using the correct key words for your issue and some reading. ;) Used key words: modem & flash.

This was on page 773, posted by k0nane: answer

And you should only need the modem file if that is all you're trying to update.
[Epic 4G Android Development] nikon120:
Realistically you shouldn't be saving your contacts to the phone itself, but rather to your Google account for backup. If you don't like using Google, then export all your contacts to .vcf format for reimporting to a fresh/clean install of the ROM (meaning a data wipe). The breadcrumbs are: Contacts > Menu key > Import/Export > Export to SD card. I back mine up into .vcf periodically even though I'm using Google Contacts.

Recalling previously posted steps by Impaler and k0nane, lol.

1. Try clearing each crashing application's data via Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > [Select App] > Clear Data

2. If that doesn't help, try booting into CWM and use the Fix Permissions setting.

3. Try reflashing the ROM without wiping.

4. If that doesn't help, then you most likely have corrupt data from the battery pull/improper shutdown on a ROM w/o journaling enabled and will need to wipe the data and start fresh.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Craigmier:
It friggin worked!! I just booted into CWM and choose "fix permissions", no more FC's!!!! I tried this while also reflashing ROM without wiping data and it didnt work but just "fix perm" without anything else fixed it. I could not clear app data because I was getting so many force closes i couldnt start any app or even get into phone settings. Also you are right everybody should backup contacts to google. I was exporting to SD card periodically but my last backup was weeks ago and I have new contacts since then I would have lost. Anyways thank you so effing much man, seriously, you saved me a lot of pain. I owe you. Cant experess my enthusiasm enough.:D This ROM rocks, worked great for weeks until I updated "all apps" this morning, then later screen wouldnt wake up, had to pull battery.

Last question: How do I get journaling on so I can pull battery if needed and not get FC's? Journaling link is not working as a link. Love the ROM but data corruption with batt pull or dead batt sux, really really bad.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tclarkey:
Do a nandroid backup and restore, journaling is on after that.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Himmad:
I am having a problem with mine. I am continuously getting a forced close on google framework. I have done what everyone says to clear data for it, but every time I place or receive a phone call it pops up again.

Any fix on that?

Edit: Also pictures arent being synced from facebook
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mutiny32:
Re-flash. Save yourself the grief and time of trying to fix it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mutiny32:
To get jornaling to work, you have to pull some 'Legends of the Hidden Temple' type of stuff that involves crossing pits and crawling up tunnels.
[Epic 4G Android Development] 063_XOBX:
Or just do a nandroid backup then restore it....
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Yes there will be :)

Clear your messages. Delete them all.

Yup, sure is. The phones are different, and if the issues are only for some, then it's not the app's/roms/anything's fault other than the phone and the user. :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Yeah. Not too difficult for the average human :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mutiny32:
Or.....just put the link up for the ROM with journaling enabled.

Which is harder, honestly?

Edit: Also, a nandroid restore isn't, in fact, a perfect solution. It still breaks things after a restore.

Edit edit: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Nandroid restore has never broken anything for me.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mutiny32:
Well I guess it's perfect then if it works for you. All other problems can be dismissed as 'user error.'
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
This will be the last personal attack you make on this forum. Any more will result in an infraction, as I have already warned you.
[Epic 4G Android Development] zentex:
If I knew of an easier alternative, I would have suggested it ;-)

Google Wave would have been a good alternative, but it's EOL'd and scheduled to be decommissioned soon.

make a user account on the wiki, and PM the username and I'll give you elevated permissions.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mutiny32:
You're right, I'm sorry for calling you out. It's my fault.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Let's try to keep the thread civil, everyone...

There will be a journaling option in 1.1.1. As you all know, I'm still waiting on a functional device.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mutiny32:
Hey, it's my bad. I apologized for it to him.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
And I appreciate it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Paleryder:
Transparent MMS?

This ROM is The Best STABLE as a 3 Legged Hooker lol j/k.'

I flashed Impalers transparent mms and notification (just what I wanted killer job BTW)

and now im wondering was the MMS and notification transparent on stock 1.1 ?

Thanks for checking Hollla
[Epic 4G Android Development] Craigmier:
Thanks guys for helping me out, phone was so fuct up I could not do a single thing with it with-so many FC's popping up so fast. I consider myself a very technical guy, and I know enough to get the job done with these phones following the often brief instructions given from dev's, but I am no expert. I am a network engineer so I can learn this stuff easy. My point is I read that with journaling on, I wont have the problem of data corruption if phone loses power. So I know I need journaling. Can I explain what Journaling actually does? No. But I know I need it. Thank you for those who helped, never any need to flame somebody who might be less knowledgeable on a specific topic than yourself. This thread is getting too long, might be time to start a new one with the new version that has journaling built in? Searching the thread can be a pain also as the said keyword might show up on 300 posts.

Thank you and God bless. Keep up the great work K0ane and ACS team!!! I have been installing this ROM on friends phones and they love it, and have no knowledge of flashing custom ROMs, they just know battery life and speed is awesome now. Anything we can do to make it more idiot proof is a huge plus. The Rom is already so fast and awesome, I feel some polishing and finishing touches would put it over the top. Just my 2 cents.
[Epic 4G Android Development] itisagoodname:
Journaling adds a checksum to the information that is being written. It will then read the checksum after the data is written and verify that all of the data has been written. If not, it will re-write the data i assume.

When re-reading the data there should be no incomplete (corrupted) data.

Obviously without writing and reading back the checksum there will be a slight increase in performance, but with that comes the risk of corruption.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
I feel the need to post this although I'm beating a dead horse here, acs is working harder than ever to make you're experience as good as it gets for your phone. With ext4 and oc kernels were pushing all the limits we know of. Tje short commings are not from the rom and sometimes not even user error. Jusr from the meeting last night which was like 12 hours more progress has been made since we started modding the phone. We have countless time and money invested to bring you these great roms. The main culprit of all these "bugs" people are finding are all directly related to the current clockwork mod recovery. Power your phone down and back up to see force closes? That's errors in cw writing to your memory. The rom isnt corrupting your phone the method of writing to it is. Our clockwork is in the stone age compared to other phones. This is all about to change here very soon so instead of hating on the devs who are doing their best, simply wait on these changes or sit it out until it is perfected. Nothing is worse to a dev to be ridiculed for his hard work so please have some respect and understanding
[Epic 4G Android Development] zentex:
Interesting...I thought all the CW's were the same :eek:

I'm going to assume from your post that either Kusho (?) is going to update CW or ACS has a Recovery up its sleeve...I think I'll put money on the latter.
[Epic 4G Android Development] itisagoodname:
x10000000000000

aka bootloader

after trying the new vision kernal, loosing root, re-rooting, now i cant wipe the Dalvik with CWM
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Not sure what the question is, could you elaborate? And glad you like my transparent MMS :)

Nah, ours is crap unfortunately :(
[Epic 4G Android Development] lviv73:
How do i find out if Journaling is enabled?

I did NanoBackup and restore right after flashing the rom-without booting the rom first like i always do.

I know that Journaling is is enabled for /system partition but since there was nothing on /data and /cache partitions when i did NanoRestore im not sure if those partitions have Journaling enabled or not.
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
I like my wife's evo recovery a lot amon_ra I think 2.3

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
I would love to see admin_ra on the epic unfortunately amon isn't on board with the epic and I respect that those guys have to dedicate too many hours porting to phones they do not use. As much as it sucks we cannot hold it against them.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Yeah, amon RA would be amazing
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
So the same logic can be applied to issues with the modem - if the EC05 modem doesn't work (as is the case for some, but not all), it's also the user's fault?
[Epic 4G Android Development] flyers2114:
I agree....

pretty sure he said phone or user....so don't start something over nothing...nothing productive in your statement...
[Epic 4G Android Development] Paleryder:
Impaler I was just asking did the standard 1.1 rom have a transparent mms theme already I can't remember, yours is very cool I'm enjoining it ty
[Epic 4G Android Development] Top Nurse:
I hate it when people blithely say that you can restore journaling by doing a nandroid restore. Having done this I can say *sometimes* it works. Other times you get *interesting* results where some partitions have journaling and some don't. The best way to turn on journaling is to use software that turns it on when you flash your device. :)

Sent from Bonsai 7.0.3
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
That'd be the location.

The standard notification?
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Actually I've never seen this not work with SFB.... ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] kynetx:
Managed a soft brick updating to this from rooted stock C05. Gonna Odin back and report the outcome.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Make sure you flash from CWM3 without wiping the first time, then boot back into CWM and wipe everything and reflash.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Top Nurse:
Point taken as I've tried this on only two different roms and not sfb. Quietly bows out of conversation...

Sent from Bonsai 7.0.3
[Epic 4G Android Development] churro7:
oddly enough ACS kernels work best with no freezing for me anyway on stock ec05 rom
[Epic 4G Android Development] zentex:
I didn't see it asked yet, and really, I'm just curious.

Why was this ROM given the GTI9k and not the Epic4G fingerprint for the market, what was the rationale behind this?
[Epic 4G Android Development] intx:
From what I understand, when official Froyo dropped, our unique fingerprint wasn't setup with Google to allow all the apps we should have had access to.

The GT19k series had been on official froyo for a while, and their fingerprint identified apps correctly, and since we're the same phone more or less, we just use theirs.

I'm sure the Epic fingerprint is fixed now, so we could probably stop using it, but it doesn't really harm anything.
[Epic 4G Android Development] anavias:
After poking around, how about we setup camp in the xda wiki? It is linked in a stickie in the q&a forum, an we can all use it. I'm thinking we just create a link from community ROMs page and go crazy from there.

Is it against xda policy? I'd have to double check the thing i agreed on when i signed up, lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Ma$etas:
Konane & impaler I know u guys don't give eta's of when the new rom will be available but is it possible to know if you guys are waiting for 2.3 to hit the epic before you release an update
[Epic 4G Android Development] 063_XOBX:
They've already said that 1.1.1 wasn't far off...
[Epic 4G Android Development] shiftr182:
K0nane is waiting for a phone before they release the update.
[Epic 4G Android Development] EmoSaga:
Does this ROM come undervolted? Or should I use SET CPU to undervolt it myself? (and if so, what do I set it to?) I don't know too much about the program. I see that I can set a max CPU speed and a minimum. Are there more advanced controls? Sorry for being newb-ish when it comes to this stuff.

I seem to have "overheating" issues. (I'm assuming overclocking will just cause my phone to heat up more!) My phone, while wifi-tethering will often reboot. I'm almost sure its because the phone is hot? or... is the tethering app known to do this? I figured if I undervolted maybe it'll it would help.

Honestly though, the phone isn't THAT hot... I had a G1 before and sometimes it would almost scald my hands, but it'd still be running! So any insight into my issue would be cool ^^

---- Love this ROM by the way!
[Epic 4G Android Development] nikon120:
Yes it's in an experimental phase. Search this thread about it, I think that horse is ground meat by now. ;) Use the Market version if you want an official release.
[Epic 4G Android Development] splashmktg:
That would be great. There is a new version of cwm that the Bonsai team tried on their 4.1 but it had to be pulled down because of bricks and fc's. They're working on that now.

Despite having to flash this rom three times to get it settled, I'm totally lovin' the speed, smoothness and stability of this rom.
[Epic 4G Android Development] nikon120:
Attributed to CWM too. ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] splashmktg:
It does make sense with both Bonsai and Syndicate having many of the same issues.
[Epic 4G Android Development] EmoSaga:
Thanks @_@ I thought I read that some where before too. The reason I asked about over heating too is because I did ONCE receive a notification about it. And it even stopped charging because of it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Xhyperion:
So after journaling the phone is much more stable.

Today I had something strange happen. My 3G was not working so the radio stopped. I was like okay let me reboot. I rebooted. The radio worked fine again but my battery had dropped from 65% to almost 0% from the reboot!

I looked at juice plotter to see the details. It did indeed happen. I just don't know why
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Yes this happens a lot in weaker phones my friend.

troll stomping beast
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Its not a rom that is overclocked or undervolted it is the kernel. If u want to undervolt use pomp my cpu or voltage control.

Sent From My Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
....voltage control is more stable than pimp.

troll stomping beast
[Epic 4G Android Development] Xhyperion:
What does that mean exactly
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
Just a thought I had:

If I recall correctly, some electrical components will draw roughly the same power even if the voltage is dropped - the wattage (volts * amps) stays the same because when the voltage drops, the amps increase to compensate. More amps quite often results in more heat - this could explain at least some of the issues

I don't know if our phones would be affected by this tendency, but it could explain why some people have so much trouble with UV. Personally, my screen ran hotter with vision 1.2, and would lose responsiveness from light use (my screen stopped respondinga couple times while texting).

And to clarify my recent posts - yes, I've been a smart ass. Many of us are becoming a little too focused on the blame game, instead of just acknowledging the problems and trying to find and fix their cause. Ultimately, the root causes of these issues are based either in the hardware or the software, and we can only alter one of the two to try to fix them. The devs do an amazing job with code they didn't originally write, on hardware for which they lack the full technical documentation (what's your excuse, Samsung programmers?) - mistakes will happen. Let's focus on fixing things instead of wasting several pages debating who to blame.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Nothing wrong with being a smartass. Just do it the right way instead of trying to sound like a blunt jerk. Lol

troll stomping beast
[Epic 4G Android Development] mtwow789:
start from fresh

I am having issue with phone not sleeping. The phone is staying warm even I pressed power button to let it sleep. This is after flashing 1.1 and vision kernel 1.1.

I tested this morning, by unplugging it and let the phone sit there while I take another nap. Spare parts show that screen on time is ~10 min and wake time is 3hrs, meaning phone haven't slept. The battery decreased from 96% to ~70%. So decreasing rate is about 10% / hr.

So I just want to start fresh. I want to try v1.1 again before going back to v1.0.0 (which I had no problem and loved it).

I can't find stock EC05 for odin.

So should I odin EB13 and do one click root with CWM 3.0.0.6?

And then odin EC05 modem and flash v1.1? Is that good?

Is there easier way?

(for flashing 1.0.0, I should just odin EB13 and do one click root right?)
[Epic 4G Android Development] nikon120:
What application was the wake lock on? Also, check the sensor usage. The 3D Gallery bug effects some phones while others are fine.
[Epic 4G Android Development] forcelite:
I know this might be Voodoo to ask, but how soon will we get a 2.3 based rom as I think there is a leaked beta version floating around, at least there is for the Evo.

Later All,

Force
[Epic 4G Android Development] mtwow789:
looks like sensor usage is dominated by gallery.

Is there way to stop it?
[Epic 4G Android Development] nikon120:
Use an application like Root Explorer or Titanium to uninstall/remove the gallery.apk file. Solutions have been posted by users in this thread, try searching the thread a bit to confirm. :)

Alternatives to the bugged version: Use the fixed version from the Bonsai rom, if i recall correctly. OR try out QuickPic

I'm pretty sure k0nane stated the fixed version will be in v1.1.1 when released. Mind you this isn't a bug with this rom. I have the same gallery sensor bug on stock EC05 that I received OTA.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
All of you are correct ;)

No clue. There isn't one for us yet.