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[Epic 4G Android Development] Shinomitsu:
Hey I can post in here now!

I just wanted to say ... huge props to the devs on this ROM! I'm blown away by how much better my phone runs.

Thank you for all your hard work!

A couple of questions though...

(Mentioned this in the Q&A forum)...

After boot my OC app tells me I'm running at 1.3, Quadrant was giving me 1700s.

Switched to 1.0GHz and tried again and it was still giving me 1700s

Switched BACK to 1.3GHz and now it's giving me 2100s!

Is it actually booting at 1.0GHz but telling me 1.3GHz?

Also, has anyone had any trouble mounting their SD card?

XP Pro doesn't seem to like it when I mount my sd card ever since flashing the rom. When I try and access the drive, it just locks up the windows explorer window.
[Epic 4G Android Development] imann:
This is the first ROM I have ever flashed and I love it. I tried flashing the fully loaded version first and ended up with a boot loop, so I did a battery pull, re-wiped everything, and flashed the standard version (I had both on my sd card). This time it started right up.
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
It sounds like there is some data that needs to be cleared, because it seems like your phone already has (the wrong) passwords stored. I don't use bt so I'm not sure, but I think I remember reading about a way to clear bt data - that might solve the current problem (the next issue is, where is it getting the erroneous data?)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shinomitsu:
I got a bad flash the first time as well. I cleared everything again and flashed the fully loaded one again and it booted up. Apparently it's pretty common?

Non-issue though... ROM works like a charm and my phone is ridiculously fast now.

The Epic is pretty fast as it is, but you don't realize how fast the phone CAN be until you install the ROM!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Milkman00:
Hi Styles... I am not sure how to specifically clear BT data. I did try the suggestion from k0nane about clearing the caches and fixing permissions but it didn't help.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Djinn23:
Most the stuff I paired doesn't ask to input a pw if in paring mode... only when not. I just assumed it sent the bank of defaults.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mystica555:
e2fsck - bash - /etc/profile

Can we get some USEFUL LINUX TOOLS into a custom rom please?

Lesse.. e2fsck the goddamned filesystem on bootup -- JOURNAL REPLAY DOES NOT ALWAYS WORK, BARRIERS ARE SCREWY AND DON'T ALWAYS PROTECT WRITES FROM CACHE.

Bash.. how can I explain this... DOING ANYTHING ON THE PHONE IS USELESS WITH THE CRAP SHELLS BUILT INTO ANDROID AND BUSYBOX.

/etc/profile would be icing on the cake, so we can get a useful PS1 prompt and such.

Please fix your rom with these ESSENTIAL LINUX TOOLS
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
Modify and rebuilt it yourself then? The ROM isn't designed for those purposes, not even to have those extra uses.
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
I'm not sure, either - not sure if it is even possible, I think that data would normally be deleted when you delete the device profile from your phone (unpair, in other words). Perhaps the default settings are corrupted somehow, so that your phone thinks it already has a code set up when it is actually creating a new pairing profile...
[Epic 4G Android Development] eliseexige:
IDK if anyone else has this, but I keep having to reset in the Apps/Development section "Stay Awake While Charging."

It keeps resetting each time I reboot the phone. Is this common to everyone else? So annoying...

outside of that, love the ROM! :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] mystica555:
Um, if its not designed to fsck upon boot, you get *lots* of silent corruption during unclean mounts after crash or power loss. The journal is not always correct; Look on linux kernel mailinglists to see how many bugs there are in the barrier code as well as the fact I've seen this happen on my G1 with ext3 before Cyanogen added e2fsck. If anything, mount all ext4 partitions with option of 'sync' but that will ofcourse slow *everything* down.. It is safe however.

I consider this an absolute requirement for ANY linux device, phone, PC, router, whatever. If its got an ext# fs on it, it needs to fsck on boot. Plain and simple.

Bash is easy peasy to add in, and helps doing any sort of debugging.

But e2fsck is imho not an option. ever.

Its not like I'm asking for a full linux userland here; just some things that *greatly* help usefulness.

--edited again-

Oh hell... As I reread the beginning posts for the thread, you aren't even using journalling because of "issues" with it... Dear god, WHY don't you have e2fsck...

This is inexcusable...
[Epic 4G Android Development] bnguyen1983:
Getting the same FC. 1.04 Kernel doesnt fix it for me.

Btw I solved the gallery problems. It was with the Honeycomb theme for some reason.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
Wait til 1.1.1 =)
[Epic 4G Android Development] troy22:
my haptic feedback with keyboards and the softkey press seems to be inconsistent. i have the vibration all the way up but still seems like it all the way low. how can i fix this?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
We all would like to know wtf is up with that. =/ it's all screwy
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
mystica555, if you're going to make demands, check your attitude at the door, or piss off altogether. Go rant at all the other developers.

Bash will be in 1.1.1.
[Epic 4G Android Development] troy22:
so u think it has to do with the vibrator or the rom?

i honestly think that the vibrator on the epic isnt really that powerful but they could of make it at least vibrate consistently lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
The vibrator.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mystica555:
Sorry for my initial brusqueness.

My attitude was one of shock and horror that a ROM would be made without fsck to actually check filesystem permissions upon hard reboots. Bash was more of an afterthought, as I realize now that busybox has ash built in for command line history.

Sorry for the attitude, I am just rather shocked that so long after custom Android roms with ext3/4 have been out that a new one comes and has -no- journaling at all, and -no- fsck to fix the errors that are inevitable if ones phone crashes.

Thanks for the info and keep up the great work otherwise!
[Epic 4G Android Development] socos25:
I have two questions that have probably been answered in this thread. So if they have please just state that and I will continue my search, because the search pulls up a lot of stuff I'm not looking for.. N-E-Way:

Okay as I've read in this thread, and have been told by others. make a nandroid before adding a theme. Did this. So no problem....

This is what I did.

1. Fresh install with 3x wipe data, cache, & Dalvic.

2. Installed rom.

3. Booted up rom.

4. Added favorite programs.

5. Made nandroid backup.

6. Continued on as normal.

So everything is good, life is good, until my dumb self pulled the battery after powering down but not waiting long enough.. DOH... No problem I thought, I will load up my backup...

Installed the backup, but get FC's.. So where did I go wrong? I know the FC's are a sign of bad data, but if I did the backup after a fresh install when everything was fine what would cause this? Is it just our crappy Clockwork showing itself? I then tried restoring the backup without the data, and this worked, however, many apps were missing.

My other question is, and maybe this is better posted in the theme that seems to be causing the issue, but SRF 1.1 runs without problems until I install a theme, then I get random wake locks. I can go a week without one, then alll of a sudden bam.. If I don't install a theme it seems to run fine no matter what.. Any ideas on that.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Probably crappy CWM, and the theme would be the issue.
[Epic 4G Android Development] socos25:
So when re-installing the nandorid backup I should typically be able to do it with the data?
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
You should be able to, but it doesn't always work
[Epic 4G Android Development] LunaticWolf:
If you would read around some more, you would find that it does have journaling.
[Epic 4G Android Development] h4kudoshi:
ultimate online theme kitchen http://uot.dakra.lt/

i tried but when i flashed the zip nothing changed. it worked perfectly on my hero.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
This may not work, you may have to manually decompile the framework and make the changes yourself.
[Epic 4G Android Development] styckx:
My first rom flash in ages. Coming from a midnight byor build. So far so good mostly. Love the backup and restore data during the flash.

Only issue I had and didn't dig through the thread to see if it is common. Was getting forced closes for Google Maps. It was corrupt, missing or something. Wouldn't even load. Right to a FC. Market showed it uninstalled. Reinstalled it but now had two map and two latitude icons. Uninstalling maps got rid of them both and reinstalling fixed the FC problem.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Clear the data of the maps app in settings :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] styckx:
Doh should have known to try that first.

One thing I'm happy about is last.fm is actually usable again. No stuttering anymore when doing normal stuff like browsing the web and switching to the home screen. *yay*
[Epic 4G Android Development] greatlakesghost:
That went better than what i had envisioned=-O i was watching this transpire and going to myself uh oh! Nice work ko and acs! Keep up the great work:-) i will be looking forward to future releases!
[Epic 4G Android Development] jockovonred:
yes, as impaler has noted, it sometimes doesn't work. here's what's worked for me when the nandroid restore still causes FC on apps:

boot into CWM

clear cache and dalvik-cache (i did 3x for both)

fix permissions (takes a bit since there's nothing there)

reboot

you may have to reinstall any apps installed to the SDcard (angry birds, etc)

good luck.
[Epic 4G Android Development] styckx:
What should the min in SetCPU be for this ROM, does it matter?

Found out quickly my phone hates 1.3ghz. Lasted 2 minutes before a bat pull was needed. 1.2 is nice and stable.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Djinn23:
I have had to do this on every trucking bt host I have owned.long time heavy user off all thing s bt.
[Epic 4G Android Development] vwags:
Some can run at 100. If that causes problems with waking the fix is to raise it to 200. There was one post saying he couldn't run below 400.
[Epic 4G Android Development] styckx:
Thanks for the quick reponse. Over 9000 posts is a lot to search through on a phone. :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] mystica555:
Then why is the 2nd post listed explicitly as: "Links to journaled versions temporarily removed while being troubleshooted. We apologize for the inconvenience." ?

Just put e2fsck in both to run on bootup and reduce the risk of errors for everyone..

If the FS is NOT dirty, it won't add any time to boot; if it IS, it won't take too long, as most files are stuffed away inside of apks. Definitely not as long as dexopt going at it the first time after booting a fresh rom.
[Epic 4G Android Development] flyers2114:
Yea it was nice...but I am not going to be as nice....

I dont know who you think you are to come in and make demands....but k0nane will decide what is best and what is not....his rom.....his call.....so dont come in here saying just put this and just put that like you are the almighty....now if you have ideas that "YOU" like take your happy ass somewhere else and build your own rom....and btw you do need to do a lot more reading....journaling has options as to on or off....that's your only hint....basically either live with what decisions are made or gtfo....but dont demand and act like he is an idiot and doesn't know what should or shouldn't be...:mad:
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
As mentioned about 10,000 times, make a backup, restore it, and you have journaling on.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Don't touch that.

What would the forums be like without you and RJM, Flyers... :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
Try Genocide kernel. Your phone may not like the undervolted 1.3's that all the other preset voltaged kernels have. Govern it with Voltage Control. If the stock voltage still isn't enough get Voltage Control Extreme (paid app) and bump it up till it works. The difference between 1.2GHz and 1.3GHz is quite noticeable.
[Epic 4G Android Development] styckx:
I reverted back to my midnight byor build. Started wifi tether, phone did a hard reset and lost all my launcherpro shortcuts.

Will revisit on the next release. Not trashing the devs work, and I'm sure there are work arounds but coming from a stable build I'm past doing "work arounds" at this point. Haha. Shame I liked what I did see but that hard reset and losing all my shortcuts was enough for me to revert.

Until the next release. :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
WiFi Tether rebooting has less than absolutely nothing to do with this ROM, and you'd have the same problem on any other ROM.
[Epic 4G Android Development] styckx:
Think it had to do with the fact wifi tether was already installed on my old build? After installing your ROM I had two wifi tether icons (different colors) so uninstalled the one from the market leaving the one that came with your rom.

Wifi tether works fine and dandy as it did before on my current build.
[Epic 4G Android Development] flyers2114:
Incorrect..............gps does work...I used it plenty today...

No sir.....I used it with no problems....
[Epic 4G Android Development] fishfuzz:
2nd day battery update

24% remaining

7h 25m 22s since unplugged

Voice calls 66% (2h 40m 5s)

Display 29% (47m 57s) <-- set to auto

Cell Standby 3% (7h 25m 14s) Time without signal 0%

Phone idle 1% (6h 37m 25s)

SetCPU configured for 1200/100 ondemand with a Screen Off profile of 400/100 ondemand.

Bluetooth on most of the day, WiFi and GPS on for part of the day (although I haven't gotten a GPS link - unsurprising in the house).
[Epic 4G Android Development] big_bake:
read through all that (thank god it's only 11 pages).

this is a link to the post where tanimn adresses it. gonna patiently wait for the result.
[Epic 4G Android Development] adstuck:
i restored data from cwm and at first i thought it didn't take, it took a while for the data to show up. It has been fine since, running with the gingerbread theme
[Epic 4G Android Development] chris41g:
I put genocide kernel on this rom, lost root, but battery charging when off bug was gone...
[Epic 4G Android Development] lviv73:
Anyone have problem charging the phone while its off?

My phone will not charge while its off,i get battery sign with "waiting circle" in and the led light don't even come on.

If I remember correctly Syndicate 2.1 had same problem in the earliest version before they fixed it.

Or maybe I removed some apk in /system/app folder for charging to function when the phome is off.Anyone else have this problem?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Rivas123:
This has been reported on earlir posts. If I recall correctly it still charges. Don't quote me on that. Search for yourself.
[Epic 4G Android Development] lviv73:
How is Genocide kernel compared to two Syndicate ones?

Now that I think about it my phone did charge while it was off before I flashed Syndicate OC kernel,i just had to unplug it before turning it off and then plug it back in.Im bout to try to flash old kernel(one included with the rom) and see if it goes away.
[Epic 4G Android Development] boominz28:
who charges their phone while its off and why? i rarely turn my phone off. and when i plug it in my alarm deskside clock app opens up.

i just dont see a reson to charge it while its off

..

correction, i just tried it with the dock , and the dock restarts the phone WEIIIRRRDD.

(HEARS TWILIGHT ZONE THEME)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Rivas123:
Its always good to reboot the phone once in a while.
[Epic 4G Android Development] lviv73:
To callibrate the battery and to charge the phone faster.Battery should always be calibrated when changing roms that way it will last longer unless you have an external charger.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mcdavid:
This is helpful info in my quest to understand how people are actually getting 30 hours out of this ROM. It has been 8h 53m since I unplugged. 77% of my battery use is from Display. 1h 58m 55s Time on. Brightness = 25%.

My question to people getting 30 hours: Under "Display", what is your "Time On"?

EDIT: My Battery is at 28% left
[Epic 4G Android Development] boominz28:
I may be android dumb , but I'm not dumb lol :D

I do reboot it every once in a while

and you dont have to power your phone down to calibrate the battery. the old type batterys you had to do this to train it.

what ive always done was drain the battery as much as possible down to like the last 1% then start charging it

on stock rom with heavy use I could get about 15 hours.

this one seems to sip the battery nowhere near as bad as the stock and ive messed with it too much to get accurate read of how many hours ill get but i dont think charging while its on is going to hurt anything
[Epic 4G Android Development] lviv73:
Speaking of batteries,when I charge my battery all the way my led turns blue but when I start using the phone while plugged in my led turns orange after few minutes of watching videos or browsing.When I stop using the phone the led will turn back to blue.This happens with any rom.

Do I have a battery leak or somthing?Or is it like that with all Epic's,the battery will drain a bit even while plugged in?
[Epic 4G Android Development] lviv73:
Browser crashes?

I got a themed version of DolphinHD in /system/app folder and it would always crash as soon as Swype would open.So I removed the Swype that was included with the rom and got another version that I installed regularly and DolphinHD stoped crashing.

However when I try to log in to my Gmail DolphinHD still crashes.

All this is strange because I never had these problems on any of about 30 roms that I flashed so far.

Other than that and charging issue this rom is perfect and probably will be better than CM6 because of hardware video acceleration and divx support.
[Epic 4G Android Development] fishfuzz:
There are a lot of folks saying "heavy use" but I see very little data to demonstrate what heavy use is. Users - please post your Battery details. Yes, it's a pain to type in, but I'm curious to see how my results compare.

Thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] adrift02:
Very good point. Light/moderate/heavy use is subjective so actual details (time for display, voice use, etc) will help. Unfortunately, we won't be able to account for some services draining peoples phones (airplane bug, poor service searching), but with enough input we will get a good idea.

My update is coming, since I calibrated my battery last night this rom is truly "sipping" it away. I'll believe the 30h "moderate" use on a normal battery when I see the details (not saying anyone is lying). But, based on my current drain, it looks like I'm going to get 20-30h light use this time around.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ochuni3:
omg! there are so many fc lol this rom is amazing but the fact that i have to redownload and install apps that i restored with titanium and lose all my saved data in the process is a major factor for me and the occasional fc too apart from that u can see the speed difference and battery life with the iq removed..im going to try bonsai next to see how his rom works
[Epic 4G Android Development] InfDaMarvel:
If anyone cared to know, my experience with this rom has created the best experience with this phone yet. While stock eb13 is fast,this rom is certianly faster.

I have yet to have any fc from any of the apps i use.

Battery life along side juice defender is great. in 14hours with moderate/heavy use ive only dropped to 50%. Great improvements.

If anyone is having any problems/errors, id look for user error first.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
No. The difference is the version. The Infrastructure mode version included with the ROM has that issue for some users. For other users it works fine, and it's because of a known bug in the app that only the app's author can fix. The Market, ad-hoc version, 2.0.7, works for everyone.
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
Just wanted to add one point k0 didn't mention above - if you start the new tether (yellow icon) while 4g is on, it seems to almost guarantee an unexpected reboot. Always make sure to turn on 4g after tether is running, and be aware that you may still only get an hour or less before the phone *might* turn off (running the 4g and wifi radios together takes a lot of power, which makes my phone get pretty hot when it is also plugged in - I think the overheat protection kicks in after running both for a while, but if I don't plug it in, the battery drains too fast for it to matter)
[Epic 4G Android Development] mystica555:
And putting e2fsck on would take care of any case where journalling cannot be enabled, and/or is not enabled by either sheer bad luck or inaction. Tons of posts in this thread with a theme of "can't get journalling working".

I've been running linux as a server since 1998, 10 years now as a desktop OS. I've had a G1 since the day it came out and have loved Android. I even proposed the first swap on microsd for the dumb thing because of its anemic ram.

I think I know what I'm talking about with regard to fscking a filesystem.

Again: If journalling is enabled properly, fsck will simply replay the journal. You can tune2fs to set the 'maximum mount count' check off if you never want to force a fsck if its clean.

tune2fs -c max-mount-counts

Adjust the number of mounts after which the filesystem will be checked by e2fsck(8). If max-mount-counts is 0 or -1, the number of times the filesystem is mounted will be disregarded by e2fsck(8) and the kernel.

I've got a friend with your rom whose phone keeps overheating (as best we can tell; playing music in pocket while on the go with ondemand kernel at 1.3ghz, and sometimes while charging, it just shuts off).

EVERY TIME the phone crashes, he has to reflash, reflash, reflash, reflash, reflash. Adding e2fsck would save him and likely a lot of others a bunch of reflash hell. Permissions get screwed; apps can't execute properly, the whole 9 yards.

If you don't like my directness, I am quite sorry, but directness versus beating around the bush at least gets the point across. I have, by now, hopefully made everyone aware of the serious problem with a lack of e2fsck EVEN ON A JOURNALLED BUILD, and I hope that this advice is taken seriously.

Hate me all you want; think I am a troll; But whenever I find a system that cannot properly recover from a unclean unmount and then a forced remount of an unclean FS which will cause data loss, it honestly does make me think that the maintainer hasn't had much actual Linux experience to understand the inner workings of filesystem management.
[Epic 4G Android Development] plasmata:
Keep in mind that this isn't a mission critical server. It's a powerful phone. The users that choose to load custom roms do so because they like doing this sort of thing. So occasionally having to reflash does not bother us.

Oh, and by the way, please tell your friend that their phone is hot because its overclocked and it crashes because he's pushing it too hard. Some can take 1.3 and some can't. Sheeesh. This ROM is fine as is. It doesn't have to be bulletproof.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BroadcastDoc:
Feel free to build your own ROM if it's that critical. All four people who have your same requirements will appreciate it I'm sure.