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[G Tablet General] gunmeda:
Yes, Rom Manager works. You have to have Version 3.0.0.7 or higher to load the Clockwork Mod. Used it yesterday as a matter of fact.
[G Tablet General] tekrhino:
Bekit's version of ClockworkMod v.08 works with GTAB.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=865245
[G Tablet General] Paragon:
Thx guys........
[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
When you start using rom manager and use any other recovery but bekit 0.8 go over the development thread and look for nvflash because your gonna need it pretty soon. Rom Manager is NOT recommended for the Gtab. Using any other recovery but bekit 0.8 is a quick way to bork your tab.
[G Tablet General] Mantara:
You can do everything that is usefully about rom manager in clockwork recovery once you load in bekits version for gtab. You can partition and fix permissions from the advanced options in recovery mode.
[G Tablet General] gtab_man:
Rom manager working yet

So there is an img posted for the viewsonic gtab at:

well, as noob, I can't post the link.

so google for:

my brain hurts rom manager

and then look down the page.

But no instructions on how to apply this img file.

I'm guessing via a manual install, etc...

However, is this compatabile with the clockworkmod recovery version ?

Anyone know if this img will no longer brick the gtab ?

and if I try it and brick the device can I nvflash recover ?

or does it boat anchor the device ?

It would be handy to do nandroid backups from the desktop, but not critical.

thanks
[G Tablet General] TJEvans:
Best to just not try it...

AS far as I can tell, from reading posts, Rom Manager does one thing really well, softbricking G-Tablets.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkusmc:
I have G1 sitting around that I never messed with until last night, so if it's bricked, it's not a big deal. The phone will turn on, and loop through the splash screen. The only way it will boot is in safe mode. When trying to do ANYTHING in safe mode (aside from power down), everything will FC. If i go into the recovery menu with the Home plus End key sequence, I get the "can't open cache recovery command". I've tried to install RC33 in that screen, and get "installation interrupted".

The phone was given to me, so I really don't know if it was rooted or what was on it before. I do remember it worked, and just one day stopped working. When it was working I never saw a superuser icon or any other apps you usually see with a root. Thanks in advance for any help.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkusmc:
No one? Is there just a full update I can throw on the SD card and get it running?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] michael2041:
Try formatting the sd card fat32, putting dreaimg.nbh(search) on it. Then, put it in the phone and boot with camera+power. Follow the onscreen instructions, and hopefully it'll work.

If it doesn't, not my fault. Good luck!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkusmc:
Thanks Michael, but I did that already and it really didnt change anything. I noticed the recovery menu looks a bit different, and when I go to safemode, the "android" looks different, but thats it. Still cant boot, and still shows there is no recovery in the recovery menu.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimaras:
I have rooted my phone in order to have a custom ROM installed. I have noticed that the Gmail app wont ring any notification when an email is arrived. if i do not enter the application and refresh it i am not able to notice any change in my account. Anyone that can help me?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Splin-ru:
Check, if you didn't disable synchronisation and background data transfer at account's settings.
[Android Apps and Games] arda_can_2:
hello, I have a iphone application, I want to turn android it, or you turn it respects
[Android Apps and Games] imagodespira:
Is there no similar App available on Android?
[Android Apps and Games] arda_can_2:
yes ok

mynet iphone

mynet android
[Android Apps and Games] sitlet:
Not possible. The two are VERY different coding.

And one post is enough:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=973488
[Android Apps and Games] arda_can_2:
yes .hem mynet mynet android iphone application and implementation. mynet iphone application, but I want to turn android
[Desire HD General] mydanny:
Hey there,

im pretty happy with my phone, but sometime i feel like its some kinda bad to get apps for evey setting that htc did not provide in 2.2 (2.2.1 not available to me yet). Although i think enough "****" is running systemwise that noone needs.

So flashing to a custom rom seems to be an pretty easy thing if you

do it carefully and check all potential failure actions.

Will custom roms make the phone faster ?

To all that flashed yet: Do you regret it or is it like the best thing you can do ?

Do i lose any important functions of my phone ? Are the roms stable and working good actually ?

Thanks !
[Desire HD General] ghostofcain:
Having been running Custom Roms since I had my HTC Magic, I would heartly recommend them to most users, It's all about what you want from your phone though. If you are unhappy with all the bloatware installed and dislike sense it's an ideal way to streamline functionality, your DHD will, in most cases , run smoother than stock and should have at least comparable battery life. Currently I am running CM7 which gives me a stable gingerbread based rom, with a decent custom rom there should be no loss of functionality (even the FM radio works these days).
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
Custom ROMs are by and large an excellent way to keep your phone up to date whilst taking advantage of new features.

There is a risk of introducing new issues, but the support you get is a million times better than you'd get from the manufacturer, and new updates are usually a couple of times a week rather than a couple of times a year.

The main risk, I find (at least from my Windows Mobile days) is that some ROM developers tend to let things run away from them a bit and end up sandwiching so many new features and launchers and eye candy etc that it ends up slowing the phone down more than the stock ROM did.

So far I've not seen anything like that on recent Android devices, but with older handsets like the Hero there are some custom ROMs that are noticably slower than stock.

As long as you realise that there is a performance limit on your handset that will eventually be breached, then you will have a happy experience with custom ROMs.
[Desire HD General] mydanny:
Sounds promising. Really.

Im just irritated with the instructions.

My Desire HD is yet rooted.

But there is nothing about S-OFF or Radio OFF mentioned.

I remember most instructions with S-OFF and then Rom Manager or something.

But in this case - Whats the "Wipe" ? Normally means all stuff gets removed ?

Im missing detailled information, especially how installing the rom (via app ?)

and which version i need of my desire hd and more :/

Is this the safest way to flash it ?

And waht the hell means "vendor = ace" ?

Which vendor i "got" ? Im irritated or maybe i translate things bad from eng into ger :)

ps: guess i got it. htc ace was/is the codename for the desire hd device.
[Desire HD General] Hellreject:
In my experience, the easiest way to get ENG S-OFF and Radio S-OFF would be to use jkoljo's excelent tools for S-OFF and Radio S-OFF. Here's a guide to flashing a new radio after you have done Radio S-OFF.

In the Radio S-OFF topic, there's also a small guide for flashing a new rom. If you need a more detailed one, you can find one here.

The next step is to find the rom that suits you the most, for example Android Revolution HD or LeeDroid. Download the ROM you like the most, then follow the aforementioned guide to flash it.

When you go from one rom to another, it's always reccomended to do a full wipe (unless it's just a rom update, then you don't always have to do it). In this case, it means that all your data and settings will be lost, except for the stuff you have on your SD card. You can use your Google-account to back up your apps and contacts and stuff, so do that if you feel you need it.

Hope this helps.
[Desire HD General] fixxxer667:
Other handy tools for data backup before migrating to a new rom are MyBackup Pro and of course, Titanium Backup.

Don't forget that contacts, market apps, and wi-fi passwords are synced to your google account by default, so no need for huge app backup files unless you have several apks from other sources..

The guides about S-OFF and Radio flashing posted above are detailed and relatively easy for anyone willing to experiment.

Just make sure that you check the instructions carefully, and double-check whatever you type in adb. The few minutes of making sure you're following instructions to the letter can save you hours of un-needed trouble and aggravation..

Also take note, different custom ROMs often recommend specific radios for maximum compatibility. This can make a significant difference in battery and wireless performance, specially with power hungry devices such as ours.

And above all, try different roms, see what you like best. Running the bleeding edge in Android can be as fun as it can be frustrating, so try to find the best suit for your phone and you, and enjoy it :)
[Desire HD General] mydanny:
So alright - I think i got it:

1. Root Device (Visionary)

2. Radio S-Off (Tool)

3. Radio Off (Tool)

4. Download a Radio.img (How can i find out which works best with the crom i want ?)

5. Use radio tool and reboot

6. Find a suitable custom rom

7. install and voila - there we go

Some questions that came up:

- Whats the "best" radio out there ? Is this as important as picking a good C-Rom ?

- HTC Sync preinstalls only means that i got it on my PC already, right ?

- And can all of those steps (except root) kill my device (=brick) or am i safe at the moment when Radio S-OFF and Eng S-OFF worked properly ?

- Nowhere is something about the VERSION i need ? So will a Desire HD 2.1, 2.2, 2.2.1 and 2.3 work with all the STEPS ?

Which custom rom is the best for me ? How can i compare all roms out ?

I only heard bout Android Rev HD, LeedDroid and CYMOD.

I want speed and i want a nice User Interface (but i guess i can reach that with ADW.Launcher.EX or Launch-Pro no matter how the Rom looks ?)

Thanks guys for all the answers already !

Would be so thankful if you can finish this with me.

PS: If i "brick" my device is there 100% no chance to unbrick it ?

Was possible with psp 2000 e.g. after some months. think so with desire hd too ?
[Desire HD General] Hellreject:
1. In most cases, the developer of any given rom will reccomend a spesific radio to use with his/hers rom (like with LeeDroid or ARHD). Usually I'd just go for that radio, but as with so many other things in life, your mileage with a spesific radio may vary. While one user might report good signal strength and battery with one radio, another user might say the complete opposite. Anyway, stick to the radio reccomended by the ROM developer. I think that's the safest to do.

2. I've not even used HTC Sync since I bought my Desire HD, and I don't see the need to use it.

3. You're never 100% safe, but in my experience, once you're past the ENG/Radio S-OFF and your new radio is flashed, it's usually smooth sailing from there. But always remember that **** can happen, and you might be unlucky, so if you're unsure of something, read up on the subject as many times as you need for you to feel comfortable doing it.

4. As for what rom is best, that's really up to you I think. I've stuck to ARHD, and I find it fantastic, but you might like LeeDroid or CM7 better. Just look at screen shots, and try to figure out which one is most suited for you. And as you said, with AWD or LauncherPro, and the right wallpaper, any ROM can look beautiful :)

5. If your device is bricked, I don't know of any method of getting it back to life. All I can think of is send it to HTC, claim that it's dead, and hope for the best. :)
[Desire HD General] Tones1971:
I flashed my first ROM yesterday just (leedroid 2.2.2). I havent really had much of a chance to explore the real benefits of it, but im already delighted that i did it. Just by being able to add custom themes, fonts and skins to get the phone looking much brighter and colourful. Also nice playing with overclocking the processor.

Took a bit of work to downgrade the software to get root, then a few problems getting s-off etc, but in the end it was all a good learning experience. Certainly dont regret doing it, just sort of regret that i put it off for so long. Looking forward to much playing about with different ROMS and customising them.

Just make sure you read the threads on here about rooting very carefully. And also read very carefull the instructions that come with each ROM. Leedroid recommended a radio that works best with his ROM, so i flashed that. Dont know if others do the same as i havent got round to trying any others yet.
[Desire HD General] mydanny:
Am i right that only with Radio S-OFF i will be also able to install custom roms,

but NO new radio versions ? Is the problem the compability (with croms) or is there any other reason for new radios than better connection/battery ?

Which users are fine with only Radio S-OFF ?

As i can read, RSPOFF is safer than ENGSOFF.

Also: the question about the VERSION is really making me moving.

Hope someone can explain me, why nowhere is mentioned something about it.

I remember 2.2.1 cant be rooted and 2.3 - so is this the explaination

(cause you cant go over step 1) ? or whats the point ?
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
Once you've done Radio S-OFF (not sure what your step 3 is - seems the same as 2) then I'd recommend installing ROM Manager from the Market and ensuring you have either ClockWorkMod 2.5.1.3 (up to Android 2.2) or 3.0.0.6 (android 2.3) installed. This then allows you do do all your Nandroid backups and System wipes that you will need to before you flash a new ROM.

As said, there is technically no "Best" radio - but the dev of a ROM will recommend a decent compatible ROM. You are welcome to try others but you may notice weaker signal or degraded battery life.

It's useful for getting the right drivers on your computer - but probably not much else!

Not "Safe" but at least much more likely to be able to recover. You can still permanently damage it - but doing so would be pretty hard work!

Generally the steps are the same throughout...though you'd be hard-pressed to find a DHD ROM on 2.1!

Read their respective threads and see what you like and don't like. That's what everyone else does. No ROM is "better" than the other.

Depends how badly bricked it is! (see above)
[Desire HD General] mydanny:
To add the misstying under 2. or 3.

I meant:

2. Radio S-oFF

3. ENG S-Off.

What is ENG S-OFF in some easy words doing other than Radio ?

As i understood - without ENG S-oFF i cant install custom radio images, right ?

Means: New Roms, but maybe not the best compatible radios ?

Also: When installed Clockwork i can backup everything ?

Means a NANDROID backup i guess ?

I thought when i want to get back, i just need this Ruu Rom and

Set all Tools to S-ON ? So this Nandroid backup, whats that ? "Ruu" is the original rom and the "nandroid backup" is the system-backup/firmware/original radio.img?

Im just ab it irritated with all the words like rom, radio, firmware :/

Im so thankful for all the answers yet.

Never expected such useful answers, most forums full of guys that link

to other threads and do not really care. so until now - great work !
[Desire HD General] ghostofcain:
ENG S-OFF will allow you to flash rom's, Radio s-OFF will allow you to flash radio's as well (ENG S-off fools h-boot into believing it has radio s-off)

Radio S-OFF will not be reverted by flashing a new h-boot unlike ENG S-OFF.

Different rom's suit different people, seen as you are going to loose all your data falshing a custom rom, i would recommend flashing a couple and having a play around (leedroid and Coredroid etc have sense if that rock's your boat, Cyanogenmod is closer to vanilla android) as everyone has a different preference.

The Versioning of ROM's is a bit of a grey area all ROM's are based on an android release 2.1, 2.2.1, or even 2.3 etc but many have features ported to them from other release i.e stuff from 2.3 or even 2.4 may be present in a 2.1 based ROM so look for a rom with the features you desire rather than relying on the base. But some ROM's require different instructions for flashing i.e Gingerbread ROM's require clockwork recovery version 3.x this is due to different file systems used, to be safe make sure to read the first couple of entries in the ROM thread in the development section before flashing as it will list any special requirements or steps that need taking prior to flashing.
[Desire HD General] mydanny:
Maybe im just reading it wrong, but do you mean that Radio S-OFF has all the features that ENG S-OFF brings PLUS the radio flash option ?

Then why all the instructions say, i need both (ENG and Radio) ?

Generelly, you recommend only ENG S-OFF or will the most good Custom Roms not work that good with the original radio version from htc ?

And Gingerbread Roms need Clockwork 3.X - But Clockwork 3.X needs Desire HD with 2.3, as i got told above.

And i cant upgrad to this by using HTC Updater. I guess, i have to manually upgrade my original Firmware then, right ?
[Desire HD General] wid0w:
Complete guide in my sig (check out the dev forums, lots of them out there)

Radio s-off and eng s-off are 2 different things and you need both if you want to be able to flash a rom.

And yes, I love my custom rom more than I will ever love stock. Why? because it looks like the stock one but it's lightning fast and drains less battery. Oh, and I have better reception
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
Gingerbread roms need 3.X, but you don't need Gingerbread to install it. I have CWM 3.0.0.6 but am on a FroYo ROM. All down to my own personal choice!

Also, yes. a Nandroid backup is an exact copy of your ROM (not your radio). So all apps, settings etc will be exactly the same when you restore it. You can't do this without a clockworkmod recovery.

ROM Manager interfaces with CWM and allows you better management of your backups and also gives you an easy way to upgrade your recovery without having to mess around in a terminal emulator or command window.
[Desire HD General] franklin20uk:
The relationship between Kernel, Radio (Baseband) and a custom ROM? So in theory, can you mix and match different version and combination, but there seems to be proven combination that works better, is that correct?

Base on what I am reading, they are can contribute to a faster, more stable, and a more battery efficient phone system.
[Desire HD General] mydanny:
Nice Guide. Has everything i need.

Why i need both ?

In case i dont need/want a new radio version and ONLY a new crom,

i dont need the Radio S-OFF. Cause you say i need both ? Why ?

Maybe gimme a short answer to that.

Will be thankful !
[Desire HD General] ghostofcain:
For flashing under windows that is, the instructions here, whilst a little more complicated cater for all OS'es
[Desire HD General] mydanny:
Link not working.

Whats that ? Another guide ?

Whats the differ ? Oo
[Desire HD General] Hellreject:
You're right in that there's a certain harmony between radio, kernel and a custom ROM, and they can indeed provide both longer battery life and better reception than the stock rom can. I say can, because it's not always the case (as stated before, some ROM's can actually make your phone slower, although this has not happened with the DHD as far as I know), but usually the work you put into rooting and flashing your phone will produce a pretty good end result.

If there's a proven combination that works better than others I cannot say for sure, as developers constantly work on their kernels or release completely new ones. Some are for stability, others give you insane overclocking abilities, but all in all a custom kernel is usually a lot better than the stock one, given that it's a stable release.
[Desire HD General] franklin20uk:
So if I like to flash a CW7 RC1, which radio and kernel I should be going for? Or it is another subjective choice base on your needs.

Can anyone list a range of choice for this Custom Rom, so can I look it up individually. All these different kernel and radio version out there, is actually quite confusing for a new android user like me.
[Desire HD General] ghostofcain:
What radio do you currently have? I would recommend either Radio_12.35d.60.140f_26.06.03.24_M2 or Radio_12.28g.60.140f_26.05.05.27_M3 which both work well and should reduce the battery drain over stock, as for kernel I really don't see a reason to change from the stock one, But having said that CM will work just fine with the Radio you have so don't feel you have to change it.
[Desire HD General] mydanny:
So this means ENG S-OFF is enough ?

In this case i would not need a Radio S-OFF ?

I hope i finally get it ...

Cause Radio S-OFF as far as i read is only needed if changing radios, right ?
[Desire HD General] LordManhattan:
You don't need to do the Radio S-Off part, but it's one click on the mouse and you're all done.

I flashed Revolution HD on my DHD for the first time yesterday, and i couldn't be happier with it. I'm still using the stock "HTC" radio and the stock RevHD kernel and it's working fine. Hitting 2400 in Quadrant, and it's blazing fast.

If it works, just leave it.
[Desire HD General] franklin20uk:
so what does custom radio and kernel actually do?

So practically, if the stock radio and kernel works with my custom rom and I am getting a stable system, there is no need to touch them.

I am just curious regarding the subject, thats all. So in comparision, Custom ROM is like your Operating System (Windos) on your computer and the Radio and Kernel are like drivers for your hardware?
[Desire HD General] :
the only disadvantage is that u cant give it to the service center for repairs unless u return everything normal otherwise u ll loose ur warranty .

on the good side :D its a whole new different world

there is different roms to choose from just decide wat u want eyecandy, lightweight, stock, superfast, experimental it all depends how u plan to use it

most roms are stable and safe and fully functional unless experimental ones may have still undiscovered bugs.

just read a lot follow the steps given it should work easy and ask if u think u are doing something wrong
[Desire HD General] Hellreject:
I guess if they work well for you, you could just leave them alone. Usually, the benefit of changing kernel is overclocking, but kernels usually come with the rom's you flash. The radio could give you better battery life and signal strength, but if you're satisfied, just leave it alone.

You could compare them to beta drivers for your hardware I guess. They could (and most likely would) improve performance, but if your current drivers work fine, there's no reason to upgrade.
[Desire HD General] franklin20uk:
many thanks, that puts thing in perspective for me! :D

I have another question, is there a difference installing the nightly CW7 and the CW7 RC1? Is nightly just means I have the option of getting update and change every night?
[Desire HD General] Hellreject:
I believe that the nightly builds are just that, nightly updates of the CM7 ROM. The RC1 is the first release candidate of the CM7 rom, and won't be updated as often. This is just what I think, am actually not 100% sure :)