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[Atrix 4G General] laxwillsch:
This is interesting to me. I respect your opinion and loved your roms on the cappy but I gotta disagree with you on your views. I switched to the inspire and while the cappy has better video capabilities I am seeing a vast improvement in smoothness of the UI and never experience any lag. Not to mention the gps is amazing. All the benchmarks I am running blow the cappy out the water. I am getting 50+ mflops and 3000+ quadrant. This phone just works. And the development on the inspire is nuts.
[Atrix 4G General] laxwillsch:
I also agree. You gotta find a phone that you love and that fits your individual needs. For me that's the inspire but for others that might be the cappy or the atrix. I think it is totally subjective and there is no point arguing about which is better overall because everyone has different subjective definitions of better.
[Atrix 4G General] cotr:
i got the atrix but i took it back and went back to my captivate, here is why:

1) the power button is on the back top which means you have to pick it up to unlock the screen.

2) i dont enjoy motoblur

3) difficult to tether because webtop kicks in

4) the screen just looks... ugly.

5) until Android 2.4, dual core isnt really supported by the OS.

6) memory is blocked off

7) sms has a total device limit of 999 at max.

I enjoyed the msg light.

Edit: I figured that the best thing do to is just wait for Nexus S on ATT. bleeding edge Android releases out of the hands of the carrier and handset manufacturer. that contributed to me turning back the atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] El_Six:
Thats what I did and I'm very happy with it :D
[Atrix 4G General] saywhat4118:
What some users are saying about the atrix being very laggy when a live wallpaper is running and the app drawer stuttering is very true. I didnt expect that with a dual core phone but I just think one of the core isnt being utilized correctly. I could be wrong but I am disappointed that the atrix cant handle live wallpapers right. However, I still love this phone and heres why:

1) Screen doesnt have as good colors as the captivate but texts are so legible and even being zoomed out you can read texts just fine. I browse a lot!

2) Besides the laggy home screens [a static wallpaper gets rid of this problem] going from app to app, and within every app, its the fastest phone i have used.

3) Flash on the browser, it runs SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Smooth it makes me smile. and to think that its not even optimized for dual core yet and will be when 10.2 flash comes out.

4) OUTSTANDING battery life. far exceeds what i expected and I love that i can poke around all day and it'll still last 11 hrs and if i just use it normally Im sure i'll be reaching 20 hrs usage.

So yeah, i would take the Atrix over captivate or any other phone out right now because of those reasons i stated above. If they matter to you too then it shouldnt be difficult making the decision.
[Atrix 4G General] newter55:
I have to disagree. Running nenamark the captivate gets 50.6, the inspire hits 46 both at 1.0 ghz (a huge improvement over the evo). Sense integrates things very well and if you prefer you can go with a no sense rom or cm7. Obviously everyone is not going to agree on the best phone for them but the inspire is anything but laggy. I have all three phones and can see good and bad with each. In all honesty, I will likely be giving the atrix to my kid who actually likes moto, letting the wife have the inspire because everything just works and sense does a great job integrating social networking, and look to see what the next phone has to offer to replace my captivate or incredible.
[Atrix 4G General] Rred:
Nena's web site doesn't seem to mention whether their benchmark should or shouldn't be run on multiple core CPUs.

Before everyone gets excited about the numbers...Is there any reason to think nenamark is generating meaningful numbers when it runs on dual cores like the Atrix?

In the world of bigger computers, benchmarks and speed tests are full of traps like that for the unwary.
[Atrix 4G General] b3asty:
Same here.
[Atrix 4G General] panflute:
Captivate to Atrix

I went from the Captivate to the Atrix. Like night and day. I maxed out the Captivate within 2 weeks...kept running out of memory, I could go make dinner while some apps loaded...very frustrating. The Atrix has taken everything I have thrown at it and it just eats it up quickly with no hesitation, no lag, and plenty of memory to spare. I can't think of anything this phone does not have or does not do. I am very particular and critical about my phones, and this is the best I have ever had. I have a zillion widgets running and the only downside is that a reboot requires a little time to load everything up. Other than that this phone has been flawless. The only things not working on this phone are software issues: skype, fring (to be updated shortly), and the music app with FM radio that Motorola is working on are the only things not yet implemented.

You can get an idea of how much I have running below. Motorola will also be releasing android 2.3 for the Atrix so it will be getting even better. While there will be other dual core phones released, and 2 gig quadcore phones on the distant horizon, the Atrix should be satisfying for a couple of years. In any event, it is currently the best phone available right now.
[Atrix 4G General] FLAC Vest:
Of course but then where would we have these discussions? And why? Sometimes there are better phones, better overall phones as well. We all hold different philosphies of what a phone should do; most of us here are into heavily customizing our phones, from installing ROMs to Kernels, this is one of the most intricate forums devoted to this.

Of course you are going to get a certain set of answers coming here. A lot of people don't like the bootloader, we also don't like the small problems that the Atrix has; we have higher expectations of a new phone than that.
[Atrix 4G General] Rred:
In many ways I liked the Cappy, but the "HI, I'm charged and awake now, get out of bed and unplug me!" bit was simply a deal breaker. As was the non-GPS.

Moto's finger reader is a great plus for me, because I carry a lot of information that needs to be kept secured, and that's an easy way to do it. I was afraid to see what the MotoBlur social networking was about...but maybe because I don't use them, I haven't seen it. I'm hoping it stays under whatever rug it is hiding under.

" and the music app with FM radio that Motorola is working on" Well, there I went and dropped a dime. A formal complaint asking the FTC to investigate this as an intentional act of competition in restraint of trade by AT&T.

Since Moto advertises the feature, but only AT&T can sell you the phone, has AT&T removed the feature to ensure that only advertisers who pay AT&T can advertise on your phone? Locking out the FM broadcast industry? Or is this a way to lock out FM customers, forcing them to buy cellular data time instead?

Dunno if it is illegal, but I've asked the big lazy dog to look into it. And unlike when you and I call, Moto & AT&T HAVE TO answer when the FTC calls. Especially now that AT&T is going to be scrutinized for anti-competitive trade practices with the T-Mobile acquisition.

www.ftc.gov and then follow up with an email of your own to antitrust@ftc.gov to see if you can get the ball rolling. Yes, we rubes can fight back.
[Atrix 4G General] rivlez:
I've had the Atrix for about 3 weeks now after switching from an iPhone 4.

Below is how I feel about the phone:

CONS

1. The first thing that drives me crazy about the Atrix is how terrible motoblur is. It's seriously an embarassment to put such a crappy theme on a device. It slows the device down so much.

2. Email is absolutely pathetic - iOS blows Android out of the water

3. The camera is terrible and many times the camera has this purple hue in the pics - the flash is very weak on it

4. Just as Aaron from Phonedog pointed out - when you turn on the phone and "slide to unlock" it lags for a few seconds before it works

5. I've noticed that pinch to zoom is laggy while using Browser but is OK on Dolphin

6. The screen seems so dull and the colors seem to be off.

7. The build quality is horrendous with the whole phone being made of plastic - I have scuffs near the micro usb connector just from regular use

8. The phone constantly gets stuck in USB mode so I have to reboot it to access my stuff on the internal storage - this is extremely annoying.

PROS

1. The battery is decent

2. The speaker is quite a bit louder than the iPhone

3. Fingerprint reader is nice

I'm trading my phone for an HTC Inspire today. I'm sure i'll be much happier. To sum it up, the Atrix is a Ferrari in a Hyundai body. This phone really could've been something special if it was in the right hands.

Gingerblur helped make the phone a tad better but I kept having constant app crashes even after reflashing the phone with a new SBF and putting a fresh install of Gingerblur.

What do you guys think?
[Atrix 4G General] rjayflo:


Switch launchers....Blur>LP/ADW/etc. Lagging on the screen lock has disappeared with the update. Screen is extremely sensative now. As far as build quality...it shouldn't matter if u use a protective case. Im not doing any flashing until GB is released for the Atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] MrCooper2012:
Ok so I am brand-spanking new to these boards, and I'm looking at getting an Atrix. Even on these forums I see things that directly conflict with what is being said above. The majority of people seem to be really impressed with the Atrix(with the exception of the 4g speeds but that will be fixed soon), and from my limited use with one I am too.

I guess what I am getting at is this. Why are there so many people that have completely different experiences? I understand that with any product the experience will vary from user to user, but what confuses me is when numbers are thrown around. I would think that kind of thing would be consistent, but it just doesn't seem to be (and that is not exclusive to Atrix). Do some people just end up with "better" hardware or are there other factors that could and would limit or alter the performance of a phone?

Any insight would be appreciated as I am a total noob when it comes to these newer phones. I am soooo pleased to finally be getting rid of my iPhone and am trying to gather as much knowledge of Androids as I can.

-Doogs™
[Atrix 4G General] rjayflo:
My cousin has a Cappy and it lags a bit. I run LP and its pretty dank smooth. Just remember....when GB is released for the Atrix, its dual core capabilities will be unleashed.
[Atrix 4G General] FLAC Vest:
That only solves the UI problems, not the actual framework that the phone runs on. When I first got the phone I, of course, switched launchers as well, but it doesn't make the phone more streamlined. YOu're throwing a skin on TOP of the motoblur launcher, not entirely erasing it.
[Atrix 4G General] FLAC Vest:
No... just some of us have different expectations of what a phone is and what it should and should not do. Especially having the specs it has.

For me, I loved the speed of the phone, but speed isn't enough to warrant an upgrade, not in my opinion anyway.

The camera is the same (back), the front camera is pure crap, the bootloader is locked, which means I'm going to have to rely on Moto to provide me with updates; after having my Captivate for a few months I rooted it and installed a custom ROM with 2.2; this was in 2010. People are "just now" getting the official 2.2 update.

The design of the phone isn't... logical. The power button is in the back and you have to mentally go there to unlock the phone, you can't just unlock the phone, you have to find the button and position your finger and press it, then if you have the fingerprint scanner you have to scan it a certain way or it doesn't open. The latter argument can be dismissed but the button placement is just horrible IMO.

The build isn't that good; they could have made the back out of better quality plastic. I don't like peeling the back off of a 500 dollar phone to switch the battery or whatnot. I'm glad I didn't drop it when I had it but I don't think the body will do a good enough job at absorbing shock.

The screen was also horrible; if you want a higher resolution, just get a LCD density changing application, you don't need the super qHD display. I didn't like pentile and what it did with the quality.
[Atrix 4G General] slimslim:
Didn't own a Captivate but among Att's offerings now there's not much choice. I went with the Atrix for different reasons. I had a tilt 2 before, great screen, form factor, best keyboard, quality build, and so on. But guess what: I got a great phone with the last year specs: slow cpu, little ram, slow os. I'm soooo tired of that. Whoever says lag on Atrix they don't know what they're talking about. Apps load fast, browsing on wifi is amazing. The screen has the same width as my wife's iphone but is at least half inch longer. The pentile screen doesn't bother me at all. In a year and a half I'll get a new phone anyways.
[Atrix 4G General] laxwillsch:
There are a few choices now with the atrix the inspire and the soon coming new Samsung phone, I forgot the name. Compared to last years line up its pretty sweet. Even if you compare to other service providers they have similar high quality phones, like inspire is very similar to the thunderbolt minus 4g and ffc. And the Droid bionic is a spitting image of the atrix, galaxy series phones on all networks ect.

I love my inspire and the fact that I don't have to wait on official updates and everything just works. Literally the only thing you could possibly need to change from stock is rooting and enabling huspa. But besides that the other roming and hacking is purely just for extra benefits. With a little help from xda my phone is benchmarking better than my xoom with the terga 2. No regrets here.
[Atrix 4G General] Deggy:
Bump.

Can't decide to return Atrix for the Captivate. I came from the Samsung Vibrant and it looks like it's *EXACTLY* the same when it comes to rooting and installing custom ROMs. So I would no stranger to mess around with it within the first hour after popping it out of the box.

I miss installing ROMs and tweaking them. I'm ok with having a busted GPS. The Vibrant (cappy's cousin) had the same issue. My wife has the Atrix too so at least we would always have a working GPS.

The Vibrant, with a custom ROM, felt faster than the Atrix stock. I would even go as far as to say the overall feel/speed is better than the Atrix stock. The locked bootloader is huge boner killer. The Atrix would so bad ass with a custom ROM.

The call quality on the Atrix sucks big, hairy, infected baboon balls. The questions "what did you say" or "can you repeat that again" are very common in my everyday conversations.

I miss my Vibrant. I know I would love the Cappy but I have a lot of faith in the Atrix though. There's some stuff going on in the Atrix forums with potential updates to fix/add certain things. I'm still within my 30 day return policy. Last day is May 10th ish.

This is based on my experience with my Vibrant and the Atrix. Here's my comparison between the two phones:

Cappy with custom ROM > Stock Atrix

Atrix GPS > Cappy GPS

Cappy call quality > Atrix

SAMOLED > qHD

So I can't decide on what to do. I know I can be happy with both. Someone put a gun to my head please.

Question. Do any/all the ROMs have Voodoo on them? RFS sucks. EXT4 all the way yo.
[Atrix 4G General] PixoNova:
I call bull crap. My captivate can't get a lock at all, no matter what I do.

I loved my cappy when I used, but after using the atrix and its fingerprint sensor, I'll probably never go back.

You cappy fan boys keep touting the samoled screen, but its definitely not the best screen out there.

Swyped from my Motorola Atrix 4g using XDA Premium App
[Atrix 4G General] ekerbuddyeker:
I have had so many devices I have lost count. BUT I do belive the sound quality on the Atrix is better than any other device I have ever owned. Includes HTC (I do prefer sense ) and Samsung devices. I prefer thus speakerphibe over my work land line. It's that good (for me ). Battery life is fine, and I just about make a full day of heavy use without charging. I can't understand why my results are so different to others. Maybe im under a cell tower? :)
[Atrix 4G General] PearsonDKA:
As the saying goes, To each, its own. I gotta say the one thing that's drawing me to the Atrix is the lapdock and multimedia accessories.

Roaming the forums on the XDA app.
[Atrix 4G General] tbong777:
With Gingerbread out on the Cappy I now don;t have to wonder for awhile what phone I will get next...

Moto is locked up. Devs can't do a whole lot with it. Without bootloader unlocking I don't guess Gingerbread can be ported to the Atrix. Thats enough right there to pass.

The GPS on the Captivate with the Custom ROMS is adequate for GPS purposes. It will get you where you are going. Not as good as my Garmin. But only use it on my bike with directions in the headphones. Never got me lost. The GPS "issue" has been resolved to my satisfaction for a long time.
[Atrix 4G General] chriscerv90:
I loved the captivate it was a great device - it was so fun to try out new real

roms and customize fully. The only thing is that the GPS SUCKED! I have heard some people got it working ok for them but for me it was horrible and never got a lock.

The atrix is a cool phone and on paper the hardware is awesome. My gf got the g2x and its a phone I would consider over the atrix if it were on at&t. The atrix GPS is awesome and the phone is cool, hacks work great like hdmi mirroring and webtop via hdmi cable. Pseudo Roms are what they are.

Its really your call I dont regret getting the Atrix I like it - always want more though, in the spirit of open android of course :D
[Atrix 4G General] lost2030:
The only things I like more about the Captivate than the Atrix are the camera and the lock button. I wish the camera had all the settings the Captivate camera has and I would love to have the power button on the same spot as the Captivate. Other than that...this beats the Captivate hands down!!!
[Atrix 4G General] chriscerv90:
Yeah I felt the same way.
[Atrix 4G General] Chubby_Skunk:
The Captivate has a better touch screen. Its way more responsive and accurate. Also the video camera on the Captivate is A LOT better. Everything else is far better on the Atrix....

oh and the other BIG thing that sucks for the Atrix, is the locked bootloader. :mad:
[Atrix 4G General] frag_effect:
Coming from the best and fastest of all the galaxy s variants the Epic 4G I am so impressed with my Atrix. Don't get me wrong ill miss samoled but that's the only thing. The Atrix feels so much faster in every way. Its more future proof. Way better battery life. Like way better. Yeah we don't have the bootloader unlocked YET but when we do, oh my geezus this phone is going to be a beast lol. I say go with the Atrix and stick it out.

Sent from my Atrix 4G
[Atrix 4G General] Rred:
Has Samsung fixed the Cappy's nasty little habit of lighting up and ringing when the battery is charged? Because I put my phone on the charger when I go to sleep, and I don't need to be awakened at 2AM by a phone saying "unplug me I'm charged now".

That would still be a stopper for me, all by itself.

I LIKE the Cappy, but I also don't like the power and volume buttons being directly opposite each other. It means that a simple common firm grip on the phone (thumb and index finger opposed) to rock the volume, also turns the phone off every time. That's just poor design, people commonly pick things up and hold them that way. Power button on some other GalS phones is recessed or moved slightly to prevent that.

And until I hear someone acknowledge what the GPS problem is/was, I'll be skeptical about whether that's been fixed. As at least two bogus press releases claimed it was.

"Unplug me!" that's the killer. So easy to fix, if they give a damn.
[Atrix 4G General] creativedevil:
If you are spoiled with SAMOLED there is no solution. Doesn't matter how big or small the screen is and how much higher the resolution is, SAMOLED is great... But, if that's the only thing you care about, you will never get out of it... No one else than Samsung offers that screen, neither Mororola, nor HTC, nor LG, damn not even Apple... LOL.

Phone's built quality is not bad at all. I have used it for long enough that I can confirm this phone is solid.

From Captivate to Atrix - to OP - if you care about rooting and modding and flashing your phone, please don't bother... its got a locked bootloader... people out there are just simply mad about Motorola's decision...

Other than that, there is a bunch of software issues which hopefully will be corrected and Atrix will be upgraded to 2.3 in near future...

There is a tons of good things to say about Atrix though, such as, higher res screen, better battery, superfast performance with dual core tegra 2 chip, gps also works... lol...

It really depends... to me, i will definitely go with atrix over captivate .
[Atrix 4G General] arm_jstp:
I am another previous Captivate user and now happy Atrix user.

You won't be disappointed!
[Vibrant General] jhepoy:
First of all please don't flame if you think this post is in the wrong section. I posted this here because the devs are always in this section.

To Mod: Please move post if you think not appropriate

To devs:

I am a Network Operations Administrator at Sony Network Entertainment (San Diego) and currently our company has several job openings. The devs here are amazing and I've seen how dedicated you guys are. If you are looking for job or want to move to a different job, I am willing to be your reference and willing to back you up to get the job. The job listing is below, and i can only back you up if you apply at our San Diego Campus.

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If you find a position, please PM me so that I can give you my details and also get your name so that if HR will contact me, I would know who am I backing up for.

Thank you for the amazing ROMs, apps, tweaks, and mods that you guys have provided. Hopefully I can return the favor this way..
[Vibrant General] mmelo76:
Closed Thread!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vtmorp:
Hello - trying to search, but only getting search down error. I have the captivate with root and am trying to locate where the icons are kept. I would like to keep the 4 programs on the bottom dock, but want to change the icon. I wanted to go into Photoshop, but I can't find where the icons are kept. Any help or advice would be great. I prefer not to use another launcher to change icons as I like the screen the way it is.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sixstringsg:
There's an app called apk editor. Its on the i9000 themes and apps forum I believe.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vtmorp:
Thanks! Going to check it out now.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vtmorp:
OK, I'll admit it - I have no idea what I am doing. I do not know how to use the edit apk or apk manager. Is there any way to mount my phone, open photoshop, find an icon and edit it? I really am most wanting to edit the app icon on the dock. Does any one know where to find this icon? Also, where are the other icons - are they in each individual program? Thanks. Peace. Michele
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mckennell:
1. extract the app with root explorer to the sd card,

2. put it on your computer and change it to a .zip file

3. extract the res folder and go into the drawable-hdpi

4. replace the current icon with the icon that you want (should be named something similar to "homescreen_icon_musicplayer.png" which is the stock music player icon) it shouldnt be to hard to figure out which one it is. just make sure the names are the same when you replace it.

5. replace the original res folder inside the zip file with the modified version

6. cange the zip back into a .apk and put it back onto the sd card

7. Finally using root explorer replace the old apk with the new one from the sd card.