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[EVO 4G General] :
I just purchased an iPad yesterday and I'm loving it. I played with tge Xoom and it's like having a huge mansion with 2 pieces of furniture in it. The OS is cool but their are no apps to take advantage of it. I have the best of both worlds. Apple is doing something right so you can't hate ok them.
[EVO 4G General] 18rmiller:
dont get me wrong, i love my EVO but what is so cool about the kickstand. I have only used it to show people what it is when they ask
[EVO 4G General] cnstarz:
1) the xoom was just released how many hours ago? 48? how many apps that take full advantage of the hardware do you expect there to be???

2) the ipad requires you to purchase apps that are specifically made for the ipad, even if you already have the iphone version of those apps. the fact that there are two versions of the app to begin with is instant-fail.
[EVO 4G General] AyyRayy:
Lol yeah they are doing something right. They lured you into their isolated ios and took $600 from you for a jumbo ipod.
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
If you've never actually owned an ipad than you have no clue how amazing it really is and how well iOS works in the tablet form factor. There is a reason why it single handedly created this whole tablet craze, and it's not because it sucks.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
I used an iPad. I could not find anything interesting. It's an ipod with a big screen.
[EVO 4G General] popular nobody:
The iPad created the tablet craze, because it's Apple. They will always have the most hype, regardless if other devices does it better. I have one myself and enjoy using it, but it's a giant iPod Touch.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Ehh... it's an alright device. Anything without flash is a waste in my opinion, I do a lot of web surfing and visit lots of flash sites.
[EVO 4G General] phistyle:
where's a "cool story bro" picture when you need it...
[EVO 4G General] bmoreboy02:
Lol you should of told em nice phone now get a girlfriend gou effin loser lol. Ive been with sprint for 11 hears and when the iphone 1st hit the scene i gave it a shot by buyin a unlocked one and threw some boost minutes on it. The phone did nothin for me. My friend has an i phone 4 and let me see his screens way smaller and his camera sux. And people tend to.forget what phone had mobile video chatting 1st. And when im on my phone gettin 4g 1st thing that comes out his mouth is "hey" "my phones actin up can i connect to yours" lol

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] phistyle:
i don't know what you are looking at but my friend's iphone 4 camera and screen is a whole lot better than my evo's camera and screen...my evo may have a bigger screen but it doesn't make it better..the camera also takes way better pictures..
[EVO 4G General] bmoreboy02:
Only good thing bout iphone is so many cases lol

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] Hasty:
The iPhone 4 does have a better screen and camera than any other phone. But a phone is more than just those two features. The OS and the ability to customise etc are far more important to me. I don't want an iClone.

Hell, I even thought Windows Mobile 6.1 was superior to the iOS so I got a Touch Diamond 2 before I got the Desire.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Um... iOS has it's own native voice commands. It also has a official Google Mobile apps with voice recognition/commands/search that looks somewhat similar as (but isn't as well integrated as iOS's own) Google Voice Actions.

As a owner and current user of both the iPhone and Android phones (EVO/N1), this thread is proof positive that Android fanboys are just as retarded. It's just hardware/software, people. No reason to get emotionally attached to it or the companies that make them. Be the other guy that doesn't look weak.
[EVO 4G General] popular nobody:
Not there yet, but it's moving on up. The problem is our society, where people are determined to not like two different things at once. Carriers, music, video game systems, sports, religions, 3G/4G technologies, the list goes on. I love my HTC Vision. What? My EVO is 100 x superior to your phone. Sprint service is great in my area. Please, Sprint is **** and Verizon is the greatest. This behavior will never change, and in my eyes, equally retarded.
[EVO 4G General] LeonimuZ:
EASIEST WAYS TO DISS AN iPHONE USER?

Show them the Widgets.

Use Root Explorer

Freeze an app

Use 4G

Sent from my HTC Supersonic using the XDA app. -Electronic, Supersonic-
[EVO 4G General] NewZJ:
I just show them my bill from sprint, that quiets them
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
-Jail broken iPhones have widgets, iOS originally was supposed to have widgets but were taken out for probably performance reasons (128mb RAM while keeping up with iOS' known smoothness), iOS5 is rumored to re-introduce them/

- How is root explorer suppose to diss a iPhone user? iPhone's don't have bloatware or limited storage like Android phones. There are also file managers for iOS anyway.

- Freeze an app?

- An iPhone can get up to 7 Mbps on AT&T HSPA. I personally get 2-4 Mbps here in NYC.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Get your iPhone loving ass out of here.

Ugly UI. Ugly company. Ugly sheep.
[EVO 4G General] NewZJ:
hey, hate the product not the user
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I prefer WebOS or maybe even WP7. but Android is easily the ugliest/slowest/less user friendly of the four.

Much more successful than Google.

Make good products and people will buy/use. Kind of like Gmail or Google Search.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
I don't have an issue with the iphone. My buddy has one.. like it or not, they're nice phones. I just prefer Android.

Aside from all the accessories that are made for the iphone... I think battery life and the Apps are what gives it leverage on Android right now. I have been hearing forever that androids apps will catch up... just have not done so as of yet.

I know there is a war between Apple and Google.. but that's them. I don't have to be involved in it just because I prefer Android. In the end, it's better for the consumer when they are constantly trying to 1-up each other.
[EVO 4G General] :
You fail. There are many Andoid tablets that have been out before the Xoom.

Samsung Galaxy Tab

Elocity

Notion Ink etc

None of the tablets have apps made for the screen size. If you take the finger out your ass you'll see how great the iPad is. I bought a new one for $400 and got a great deal. There are a lot of free tablet optimized apps and their catalog is amazing. Oh yeah and I have Netflix.
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
Truth but you should wait for ipad 2 and yeah all the tablet apps for android need to cone out quick if they want to impress the media
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
well confronted with one of these people I usually just point out the best part about their phone is all the software you put on that is not apple's..........then usually whip out the free turn by turn
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
if it has changed recently i used to be google voice commands.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
To who? You mean people don't like customization? I fail to see and i'm sure everyone on this board will agree, how Android has the ugliest UI. Though I'll agree that WebOS is pretty sexy and I love their "cards"

Funny how they've surpassed iOS now with Andriod and all they started with was a search engine. Apple's been around for decades and still fall short to Windows and everyone else due to their lack of consumer friendliness (Mac) and "options" (iOS).

They make ehhh products but are awesome at marketing. People in this country don't do research on anything, they like being told what's the greatest and Apple is extremely awesome at convincing they have the greatest.
[EVO 4G General] madtopcoder:
My wife has an iphone4, I have an iPod touch 4g, an evo, an ipad, two nook colors, and even a MacBook pro. Pretty much I transitioned myself from apple to Google android based because the freaking iOS doesn't support flash!!! And I hate that I have to use iTunes to load contents. Why not SD card support for apple devices? I agree that ipad is great, but without flash it doesn't really work for me. I gave it to my dad because I figured my dad wouldn't be able to mess it up with the apple lockdown. The last thing I like android is that I don't need to pay 99 dollars per year to develop and deploy apps to my OWN devices.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Android UI pre gingerbread was dreadful. With android tho, you can do things like Sense UI that is very nice looking... however that comes with limitations and a performance hit. Not to mention companies like Samsung whip out their crayola crayons and make a god awful UI like Touchwiz. This is easily fixed if you're rooted and using one of the many nice themes available.

As far as user friendly, I think android is fine.. it could use some tweaks here and there but I wouldn't say it isn't user friendly.

I prefer a nice themed Vanilla android OS.. Gingerbread has brought a few long overdue upgrades in the visual department. It's just a shame that you have to be rooted and customize to get something as simple as battery % without a third party app.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Android is the least graphically pleasing by a long shot. UX wise its no better.

Mac is failing? huh, Apple is making bank. Apple is now making as much or more than Microsoft. You also see it as Windows vs. Mac when its really Apple vs. HP, Apple vs. Dell, etc. Apple is killing. Macbook/Mac sales will soon top HP, and they've cornered the tablet market by a landslide.

The same can be said with smartphones. Apple is beating HTC, Samsung, etc. You have to lump them altogether to even compete with Apples smartphone sales. As for user base, just numbers. How many free/cheapo android phones make up the Android base? Is the Samsung intercept comparable to the iPhone 4, or even 3gs? The iPhone is a highly successful product. More successful than any smartphone on the market, and by a whole lot. The EVO was probably one of HTCs most successful products and its sales doesn't come close. Hell, lump all of HTCs Android phones for the entire lifespan of the iPhone 4 and it doesn't come close either.

And lack of user friendliness? Oh really? Laughable.

I'm a Windows user by far and I can't even deny the reality of Macs.
[EVO 4G General] kamtsa:
"Google’s mission is to organize the world‘s information and make it universally accessible and useful."

From http://www.google.com/corporate/

Pulling Google apps from the iPhone will reduce accessibility. ;-)
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Steve is that you????
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I see that you don't take reasoning or rational discussion very well.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
What's rational about it?

I don't like macs, iPhone, or ipads. I do like ipods.

The price for a MAC is insane. I love Windows and the affordability. I built my pc.

The price for a MAC vs its option can't and won't add up. You are getting ripped off.
[EVO 4G General] jagxj220:
I think that the iPhone's UI is simple, and honestly was ground breaking, becuase without that phone, such competition for building these other phones such as the EVO would have not existed, and we would be stuck with lame UIs and still be playing snake on our phones. One thing that is uber lame about Apple is the amount of time it changes it products and how little those changes tend to be overall. For example, adding a camera to the iPad. Seriously, you want me to buy a new iPad just so I can take pictures.

Anyways, I chose the EVO because it was a good price for a large amount of features.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G. EVOke - v.- summon into action or bring into existence, often as if by magic.
[EVO 4G General] deathsled:
that's the dumbest diss I've ever heard. I would have kept that story to myself....
[EVO 4G General] HondaCop:
hahahaha no ****. +1

PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
[EVO 4G General] cm.parabola:
*Folders*

That is all...
[EVO 4G General] :
Android needs to mature. I'll give them more time (1-2yrs) before I'll consider them tablet worthy.
[EVO 4G General] madtopcoder:
Did somebody say Mac will take over windows PC? It would happen if everybody has extra money to spend. Mac is too expensive (almost double the price).
[EVO 4G General] Neo3D:
I use the kickstand on speaker phone mode too, works well!
[EVO 4G General] madtopcoder:
Kickstand works great. I put it on the table with youtube on. My kids could watch Micky mouse without putting their hands on the phone. Hey you better care when the kids put their hands on the phone. They can call 911 without your notice.
[EVO 4G General] thedudejdog:
this.

ios is on version 4 android is version 2.3. go back to ios2 and compare that to android version 2.
[EVO 4G General] Neo3D:
I'm curious, where does it say this? Cuz enterprise-wise, our IT guy says it costs companies 3x more to deploy Macs to their employees vs HP or Dell.

Last year I checked, Mac PC's are less than 5% of the market. I don't think that number has changed much today.

I give Apple credit for making pretty devices, they had to, it was the only way for them to stand out. But, now it's gotten to far to where they prioritize form OVER function (poorly designed external that looks cool but fails in function unless you wear rubber gloves or use a rubber bumper).

Plus, no Flash is a big fail as well.
[EVO 4G General] Gilly11277:
Sup dawgs? Lol work is raping me so I've had no time to keep up with.this thread....mimimimi do many good ideas! I've been abducted by Android™ since I heard about its european release a looong time ago and since the G1 I just wish a couple things: 1. Wasn't so fragmented. 2. Optimized the software a bit more (common, I should get really good battery life.) 3. Get all the stupid app developers that don't know how to make them GTFO, I guess just kinda test apps and **** before they allow them into their market. But with an ever growing OS like Android™ :) comes these problems, just take care of them! But I can't complain all the XDA brosefs are my buddies and I love the awesone developers here, I guess we just wait and hope Google™ hooks us up.

Now on the iPhone vs. Evo ordeal, iPhone is a great phone wish the Evo was metal :( but the Evo looks better. iPhone has better LCD but the Evo's is bigger, Evo just does soo much more and has more features I just wish we had the stability and legitness of iOS but I aint even mad cause I love my Evo...and its 4G ;) and I know when the Evo is old news and there is Android 5.6 Strawberry Shortcake with mind reading capabilities all you XDA developers will port it over this way. :)
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I was talking about consumer sales. Apple will never break into the enterprise market, at least not any time soon. As a side note, Apple still brings in more net income anyway.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Have you played with the xoom? Amazing device in would choose over an iPad anyday and it has flash.

Sent from your favorite carrier, black and yellow!
[EVO 4G General] NewZJ:
does it have flash now? thought had to wait two weeks, I really like how you have to ship it to motorola for 4g in 3 months
[EVO 4G General] madtopcoder:
Come on. Even consumer sale Mac is not going to top PC. For playing PC games, you want PC not a Mac. For older generation they want PC with Microsoft office not Mac open office.
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
The IPhone is the device of the millennium. Thank it, Jobs and Apple for the smartphone industry as it stands today.

Ui-wise, android is still playing catch-up...being closer to the clunky Windows mobile devices I had in 2002 than the elegant interface of the Iphone. Schmidt would be the first to agree with that I believe.

That said I love my Nexus and Evo.

Just given credit where credit is due...not joining the android Iphone-bashing sheep.
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
I would not go buy sales percents they are up but nothing crazy as concerned with world wide sales
[EVO 4G General] NewZJ:
no, thank nokia for starting the pda/smartphone craze with the 9000
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
I find all of this great. I just want to add, that the other day I walked by the mac store and the guy tried to get me to buy an iPhone...so I play along. I tell him I have a phone under another carrier, and then whip out my rooted Evo, and he goes "oh" one of those. At the end of the conversion, I got him to admit [under his own will] that the Evo was better, and I saw him go to the Sprint Kiosk and buy and Evo right out. I saved a sheep that day.
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
Well yes the evo has some great features but you got to admit the learning curve on ios is simple after that if you into customize and Widgets then just get Android I owned both (still got my evo) and I can clearly say they both great devices :)
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
I personally don;t hate iPhones, but I do hate the limitedness of it, and that's what the sales rep admitted and bought an Evo. Yes, they are both good devices, but it just depends in the end on what you want to "do" and who can give it to ya. :)
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
the iphone users who diss the evo are only envious of what they do not have.
[EVO 4G General] jacoballen22:
EnViOus «see what I did there?

Swyped from my sexy EVO.
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
And what about the EVO users who diss the iPhone?
[EVO 4G General] sekigah84:
The last time someone tried this to me, I told them to put their iPhone down for comparison issues on the table. I put my beer on top of it, whipped out my Evo, popped the kickstand out, took a sip of my beer and tethered his iPhone to my 4G. Told him he can now Facetime.

He now owns an Evo and gave his iPhone 4 to his girlfriend.
[EVO 4G General] :
They have their pros and cons. I knew that I would miss my iPhone when I go the Evo. Android has done well for themselves being that they are only like 2 years old vs. iPhones 5 year status. If Android tidies up the market and polishes up it's bugs and glitches it should be good.

With iPad you are not forced to buy the iPad version of the app. You could download the iPhone version and play that as well. If you jailbreak it you can download an app that makes the iPhone version look awesome and not pixelated.
[EVO 4G General] chamala2000:
I went through 3 generations of Ipone's and switched to EVO only to save some $$.

JB Iphones are like rooted EVO's. Both have some positive and negative sides. If the Iphone would show up in Sprint I would consider to buy it, but for now EVO is doing awesome job and all google interface is unbelievable. I love the synk with google & that doesn't matter what computer I use I can still do it, not like Iphone and Itunes.
[EVO 4G General] Gilly11277:
+1
[EVO 4G General] detusueno:
Today I went to the Sprint store and one of the sales reps tried to sell me a EVO, but just as he was getting his sales pitch out, I whipped out my iPhone 4. I showed him how smooth the experience was and the obviously higher quality apps. He was so floored by the iPhone 4's awesome-ness that he immediately signed up for a Verizon iPhone 4. I saved a idiot that day.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Don't think its on there just yet

Sent from your favorite carrier, black and yellow!
[EVO 4G General] Gilly11277:
You mad bro?
[EVO 4G General] detusueno:
no, i just think most of the stories in this thread are as fake as the one i made up. i dont understand what they are trying to prove. they need to enjoy their and evo stfu.
[EVO 4G General] bacidath:
this..........
[EVO 4G General] potna:
I think I have said this before and was attacked for it, but I ll say it again anyways.

The problem is that people are arrogant and idiotic no matter the phone or situtation.

Its not the phone that's pissing some of us off its that they are making a sheepish choice and and some of them are very proud of this.

I garuntee that there are those of us on the android wagon are the exact same way.

Kinda like the Ford vs Chevy thing, who really cares who makes it, I want something because of its features, not because of popularity.

Also what do we really want? All the iPhone folks to throw their iPhones in the trash and buy a android phone, guess what happens then, the people we are annoying us with their iPhones are now annoying us with thier android phone.

This arguemnt is like a Mexican standoff. And no one will or can win because its not really about the phone, its more about a pissing contest.
[EVO 4G General] backdown:
Congratulations?
[EVO 4G General] Gilly11277:
I'm not trying to prove anything I'm just asking why it was upsetting you...
[EVO 4G General] tonayie2:
I couldn't tell who the bigger loser was.
[EVO 4G General] cor4twenty:
Someone mentioned this and its true: People buy iPhones because they're easy to use...extremely easy! Anyone can pick one up and use it and android is more involved...average people just want it to look good (iPhones are quite sexy hardware and UI) and to be as easy to use as possible. Android is different (better) since it can be dumbed down to iPhone simplicity but it can do so much more. That's my take on it..
[EVO 4G General] bees2001:
...enjoy the small things...
[EVO 4G General] Blane:
Iphone is a smartphone with training wheels. Yes its pretty and easy to use which is why so many people assume its the best. These people arent capable or interested in pushing the edge of capability. What they dont realize is how Apple is playing them.....they will come out in 6 months with a version that could have be introduced orginally.... I for one giggle when I see guy using one, they are for chicks and kids in my mind. Ipad's are a slick pc of hardware... no camera, no Flash or SD card...nuff said.
[EVO 4G General] gameplace123:
Lmfao
[EVO 4G General] gameplace123:
youtube.com/watch?v=DV9tUW1uMtQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Nuff said.
[EVO 4G General] SFG:
Damn fan boys
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
On my iPhone I've been video skyping over 3g, I've also been streaming netflix and hulu plus. Things that Android can not currently do naively or at all. And ya, iOS has a very user friendly interface, how that is a bad thing, I don't know. But the main thing for me is the overwhelmingly better apps and developers. As a user of both, the difference in quality of apps/games is night and day. Plus If you jailbreak a iPhone you open up a similar world of community development too. All I know is that my jailbroken iPhone can't pretty much do all that my EVO can sans full flash (it does however have skyline for flash video).

I have to flash the help out of my EVO to get good performance but it still doesn't reach the smoothness or battery life of my iPhone. Believe it or not, the iPhone is a powerful smartphone that is pleasing to use.