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[Epic 4G Android Development] siirus09:
Can you prove any of this has happened in any of the errors people bring up in the thread? No? /endofdiscussion

So then why are you still here trying to argue your case? Shoo. :p
[Epic 4G Android Development] mystica555:
If there was a proper e2fsck binary on the phone, it would be quite simple to have it do a dry-run and give a nice detailed list of what errors it finds in such scenarios. I have not nor do I plan to take the enormous amount of time to read as many messages as this dumb "keep all discussion in 1 thread" mentality forum has for 1 subject. If there were sub boards, with each individual problem a separate subject, that would be quite a bit easier to parse and digest the useful data while avoiding what isn't related.

Because there are still people that do not believe a dirty filesystem should be checked upon boot is a good idea. Call me an evangelist for the "best practices" versus "what works for most people but can error spectacularly in some strange cases." :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] siirus09:
And like I said, nothing will be changed simply because you come in and start demanding things thinking you are right, all others are wrong and stupid. Just trying to save you from wasting your great ego and time here.

You should probably take your ideas to PM and stop cluttering the thread with all those "Not a single fudge was given that day" replies you keep receiving.
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
Siirus - I wouldn't say that the lack of people posting about corruption problems proves anything, it is more likely that a lot of people just don't see the point in cluttering up the thread with "me too" posts. We just read the solution, do it, and move on
[Epic 4G Android Development] garyf:
Let me say that if an fsck on boot is developed by anyone and implementable on a decent rom, I will implement it on my phone.

I wouldn't go back to stock for it, probably, but it does seem like a simple way to avoid serious problems that are hard to detect otherwise.

Is there any rom that does have it?

I think what has not been said is that many flashers here flash very often and have well developed backup and restore systems, so that reflashing and restoring for corrupt data is no different than reflashing and restoring because any glitch came up in any system which is no different than reflashing and restoring because there is some new feature that they'd like to test somewhere or come back from.

Unlike many, I'd leave the same rom in for months if I could. I won't reflash my phone until either a gingerbread comes out that has few complaints about instability or my phone crashes. I'd be completely comfortable for that day to be in December.

So for me, and for many phone users and not for expert flashers, fsck on boot would have a significant impact on how I use my phone.

So mystic, if you or anyone else develop an fsck on boot, that works with this or the next syndicate rom, please include instructions, as simple as possible, that I could get working on mine.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DCRocks:
IMO, all this fuss over data corruption is overblown

I ran EXT2 forever and had pretty much no issues, and with CWM 3.0.0.6 and the ability to do a NAND backups, the worry is even less.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Christ, I can't sleep without my thread getting **** on, can I.

1 and 2. May - most likely won't. This isn't spinning rust, there's not a lot of latency to deal with. The best in the Galaxy S EXT4 business uses barrier=0 and I trust his judgement.

3. I have no plans to use writeback on journaled partitions. That would be asinine.

4 and 5. Realize that I planned to implement a forced fsck every 100 mounts or 100 days at minimum, or more likely a fsck every boot, before you came here and dumped on my thread. (And this takes place in the kernel's init process, not the ROM itself.) As Dreams noted, I have not had a device for over a month.

Now please go away. Every other ROM dev here is using the same methods. ***** at them. And if you had looked a little harder... you would have found an e2fsck binary sitting right in /tools of the zip. Quite trivial to copy to where you like. ;) Not to mention, if you have a technical request for me, you are much better off PMing me or finding me in the IRC channel in my signature than drama'ing up my thread.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ptfdmedic:
Sleep? I thought your only purpose in life was to build ROM's for the Epic and cater to everyones demands... I guess not.... :)

Way to throw the rest of us under the bus :)

I wish this issue would just die. It's a frickin phone and no one is forcing you to do anything with it. chris41g solved the problem read this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1071723 and simply restore journaling with a simple flash of a zip. Once again the developers here do everything here in their own time and on their own dime. I recently had a chat with k0nane about something non-phone related he wanted my help with. It was honestly kinda strange(for lack of a better word) because even I forget sometimes that we are all people in the real world. I saw k0nane as an Android developer and had no idea what he did outside of XDA and ACS. Does that make sense?

My point is that we can sometimes just assume that the developers here eat, sleep and breathe these ROMs when the truth is we have real jobs and family's that come first. This is more of a hobby and a way of helping others. It just helps to put things into perspective sometimes.. The next time you want to complain about something keep this in mind.

I read a post here once that really helped to put things into perspective and I can't find it. It basically what through what just 1 random developer does for this community. The post went through and listed everything the typical developer provides the user. Then this poster went and found the "going rates" for what it would cost anyone here if they actually had to pay for what was being provided free of charge. The actual cost of hiring someone to develop a custom ROM, test it, install it and support it alone was unbelievable. I wish I could find this post because it made a REALLY good point.

Please be grateful for everything that is provided for ALL of you FREE of charge. If you think you can do better, then don't just sing it.....bring it. :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Sorry about that. ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] ptfdmedic:
I was only kidding :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] summershit:
Same here. Only issue that I have had was MMS not going out. Have a MMS that has been "sending" for two days.

Other than that, rom has run flawless.

Thanks ACS.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Don't clear level two RAM.
[Epic 4G Android Development] summershit:
I have never touched it.

May just be Sprint network.
[Epic 4G Android Development] garyf:
That is a really good point. I hope I've never given the impression that I don't appreciate this.
[Epic 4G Android Development] styckx:
Run #2 today.. Everything is peachy today and I'm less irritable and more patient than I was yesterday. This enabling journaling business.. Only con is a performance hit? We talkin 20% 10% ? How bad? I usually ignore all the fear mongering talk as I've had my phone since launch and still have zero bad blocks but as the last few pages have been predominantly about it, figured I would ask.
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
More like 1.7%
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
Very minimal decrease
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Nexus s 4g? Traitor!!!!!!!! Lol j/k....glad you got one after going through that bs with those nerd necks
[Epic 4G Android Development] blueoxide:
All I can say is... WOW!

Thank you so much for all the hard work and dedication you guys have put into this, it really shines through! I never thought my epic could be so fast, it's ridiculous! My battery life has effectively doubled, and I have about one and half times as much signal on average as I once did. It takes about 9 seconds to boot up, and even my techno-illiterate fiance has remarked on how much faster it is now that I "did that stuff" to my phone.

Thank you so much again, and I will be donating as soon as I get paid.

You all ROCK!
[Epic 4G Android Development] styckx:
Yeah.. Now that I've worked out the two minor qwirks I'm 100% on board with this. Been heavily using my phone for the past 2hrs. Streaming, tapatalk, dolphin, installing apps and not a hiccup yet, and its just plain fast and responsive. I took my battery from 100% to 37% in 2 and 1/2 hours I've been using it so heavily. The physical keyboard skipping is virtually non-existent and I can type at full speed now without even looking at the screen to check for skipped letters because it simply hasn't happened yet no matter how fast I type.

Thanks again devs!
[Epic 4G Android Development] jockovonred:
Your choice on sequence and rebooting: do them all at once or play it safe and do one at a time. Personally, I'd go one at a time, booting and checking to ensure each one, but that's just me.

If you haven't applied the Network Name fix, you should be able to go into your About settings screen and see what's displayed. The network name affects the sprint/samsung apps, not the market. As for limited applications being displayed in the market based upon a different network name, I cannot speak to this, but I have not had any issues.

This inveiglement may be to your undoing. A bull in a china shop always does more damage then the gentle whisper into an object's ear! There is nothing wrong with passion; but sometimes how it is expressed may not be to the boon of others (or yourself). /end
[Epic 4G Android Development] murso74:
reflashed the rom... still the android system is still running the sensors full time it seems. plus maps decided to do the same thing now. also my battery meter seems to be pretty useless. i was at 53 percent, rebooted the phone and was down to 12%. i had charged the phoen to full with it off previously and reset the battery info in CWM but it was still way off.
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
This is why I play Words With Friends and not Words With Strangers lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] boominz28:
irc chat

K0nane , the irc server you listed im having trouble getting in with mirc, do youhave the server settings that it needs to be
[Epic 4G Android Development] styckx:
Almost every ROM I've tried has contrasting bat stats after a fresh flash when you reboot. Hell even flashing stock will have the same behavior. After a few days to a week of regular use and charging it will balance out.
[Epic 4G Android Development] NoPh33rRaCiNg:
I'm having the same issue as well. I'm hoping its the Sprint servers and nothing with my phone.
[Epic 4G Android Development] styckx:
Are you using a task killer by chance? They are known to kill vital instances that will break mms. If so, uninstall it and reboot. Task killers are generaly a complete waste.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
MMS is indeed down by the way on the Sprint side of things.
[Epic 4G Android Development] robl45:
well I've been running genocide kernal for past week or more with great battery life and no freezing.

stock browser seemed to not work well with that kernal as i couldn't see any text most of the time so using dolphin now. is that what most people using? I also downloaded boat browser and miren browser.

then i keep getting san service popping up from time to time and dock service. I turn them off but they come back, is there a simple free app that isn't intrusive, won't mess up battery life that will let me keep these things off?

Finally what is the dock service?
[Epic 4G Android Development] styckx:
I use Dolphin Mini.. It is perfect for me and the speed dial rules.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jockovonred:
lol. i've been reading a bunch of classic books lately which has been expanding my vocab.
[Epic 4G Android Development] NoPh33rRaCiNg:
ok thanks. I called them but the lady said she didnt know of anything and took me through a bunch of stupid steps.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Yeah, they probably don't know much ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Jeez it should be 1.2 instead of 1.1.1, what changes have you made so far from 1.1? (Prays for gpu memory allocation)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shoulon:
now thats what u call a outa the blue post lol. but yeah from all the stuff i've heard. I kinda agree =P but as with all other android stuff. devs like to use triple digits.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Hmm... i sent alot today.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dchawk81:
I'd be one of the first to download it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mystica555:
I was not aware that there even was a 'tools' folder in the zip. I did not download it, as I never presumed there would be anything else in it other than the file to flash.

I was going based solely upon what was present in the filesystem on my friends phone, which I was accessing via sshing to his computer and running adb shell. (Interestingly enough, the BusyBox binary has a fsck.minix)

Perhaps it could go in the actual rom and not just a folder in the zip?

I don't have the hardware ; I just have a bit more android knowledge than my friend and he asked for help. I will leave your thread alone now, as it sounds like you already have things under control.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
I do, have, and always will. ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] styckx:
Lessoned learned.. I really should have enabled journaling.

Phone ran like clock work all day.. Came home, powered it down, powered it back up and about 5 different processes were FCing like crazy. Searched this thread, seems semi common, apparently somehow data got corrupt even though I never did a single bat pull or hard reset.. :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G Android Development] smader12:
Great ROM

I love this ROM, thank you for all your hard work
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
Hey k0nane, really worried about something here. The other day I was having data corruption, so I reflashed and enabled journaling via nandroid backup and restore. Today, my phone has freezed three times (once like every 5 hours). The first time the screen went gray. So the last time I pulled the battery and rebooted, my Launcherpro setup was messed up, so I'm worried I'm still getting data corruption. Will an update eventually fix this because I don't want this to get worse. :(

Sent from my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Freezes have nothing to do with that. As noted countless times in the thread, all you need to do to fix them is flash VisionKernel or Genocide.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Djinn23:
Absolutely no disrespect intendedd.. but I agree with the point mystic was trying to make, am glad to see improvements leaning in that direction are on the horzon, and in no way respect the absolutely biligerant method of his presentation.

I keep seeing that only a few expierence locks and such, but these phones are proving to have a varriation of tollerence thesholds and judging by the calls to enable journaling on every page of the thread, I question where the majority vs minoraty actually lies. With wake locks, freezes, phone drops and ...wedll whatever eelse...corruption is bound to occur and the solution, after the fact, is less of a fix and more of a nuke n rebuild.

I think the statement related to journaling causing disk wear are a frequent misperception that none of us are likely to witness in the lives of these devices, and although journaling being defaulted to on is an improvement over the base is no substitute for the ability to correct disk errors.

Again, dude presented like a bonified douche nozzle, but amongst the bs was what I believe is a valid point. I do value all acs , k0 and imp's hard work....and believe that there. Is always room to improve.

Regardless.....thanks again for a great rom.
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
Oh its just the kernel...? Thank goodness ...gonna flash a new kernel tomorrow morning.

Sent from my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G Android Development] zentex:
well that was a fun waste of time...(searching for my issue in this thread)

Here is something I've noticed, well two things:

1) if I reboot, when it comes back up it says the battery is about dead. So I turn off and back on. its at ~50% before the reboot then at like ~20-37% after the shutdown/turn on. I've replicated this many times with consistency. Short answer, I just don't use the reboot function anymore.

2) Wifi has always been odd, even when I first flashed and had a "stock" SRF 110. I can access normal "every day" access points, but If I try to access one that is a "client-bridge", it'll connect, get an address, but not go anywhere past the bridge. Stock phones/tablets work just fine, and my wife's Transform running Platinum works just fine. So do other computers, Wii, etc. Kinda doesn't make sense...there is another bridge that I tried and it does the same thing. I can touch things on "this" side of the bridge (wired or wireless), but nothing on the other side...even thou the DHCP server is on the other side, and it gets an address. It's kind of annoying.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
On the first, charge to 100% and wipe battery stats in CWM. On the second, flash the EB13 modem.
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
I see vision kernel 1.2 is temporarily down. Why is that? And should v1.1 be fine to flash instead?

And will this turn off journaling?

Sorry for my stupidity ...just being careful.

Sent from my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Yes, use 1.1, and no, it will not turn off journaling (why would it?).
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
Idk stupid questions :P

Sent from my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G Android Development] troy22:
Is there a fix for the crackling sound comming from the headphone? Or should I uninstall voodoo?
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
Alright flashed vision kernal 1.1. Seems to be wroking just fine except my keyboard fix seems to be broken lol.

Sent from my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G Android Development] qbking77:
Yeah it will do that when you flash different kernels. Just reflash the fix.
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
Mmkay. I used your video to flash the kernel btw :D

Sent from my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G Android Development] qbking77:
Glad it helped ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] guywire:
Loss of signal beep

I've seen posts about this issue in various forums, but not here yet and not pertaining to this most awesome rom.

When losing and regaining signal the phone beeps. It interrupts playing music and is annoying. Disabling roaming guard, turning off data, and anything else I can think of or have read about don't work.

Can a fix for this be introduced into the rom?
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Delete the sound from /system/media/audio/ui. Don't know the exact filename offhand.
[Epic 4G Android Development] epic4GEE:
Is it TW_Call_Disconnect.ogg?

Edit; that's not it
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
I wonder, is "call disconnect" the same as "lost signal"... ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] beno*:
Great question epic4GEE, this has been annoying me since I got the phone. I just did a search of the entire phone for all .ogg files, listened to them all, and did not hear that data roaming sounds. Ugh! Could it be a different sound file type?
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
.wav or .mp3, but all the sounds are in /system/media/audio.
[Epic 4G Android Development] epic4GEE:
Yeah I just did that also, only the power off.ogg and shutdown.ogg didn't let me listen to them. Couldn't find it:(

@k0nane....lol:p
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
traitor? Lmao I kept the Epic too I got both now!
[Epic 4G Android Development] InfDaMarvel:
About to load up the latest version of this ROM, Ive been running the initial release for awhile now. Was waiting for one last update but my phones driving me crazy and Id like some wireless tethering.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Akmorgan:
I just switched to this rom from Epic Experience but am having difficulty flashing the EC05 modem. I currently have the DK28 modem and am unable to flash the EC05 modem from CWM3 or odin. Odin, just says

<ID:0/003> Odin v.3 engine (ID:3)..

<ID:0/003> File analysis..

<ID:0/003> SetupConnection..

And then sits there. Is it possible to go from DK28 directly to EC05?
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Are you in Download Mode? Are you using the stock cable? If so, don't. Make sure the modem TAR is in the PDA section, the PIT in PIT, and only auto reboot is checked.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tclarkey:
Now that you have had a couple days to play with the Nexus, which one do you like better, and why (just curious)?
[Epic 4G Android Development] runngwlf:
And Im glad you do, I can't wait to see what Nexus S 4G goodies you can bring to us on the Epic!
[Epic 4G Android Development] robl45:
does anyone know what dock service is? can i stop it from running? and what program is best for stopping services from running?
[Epic 4G Android Development] andsamp:
Any chance of a no haptic aosp lock screen? I found the aosp lockscreen in first post. Found a no haptic fix from bonsai but mystery said that prolly messed with your rom and may have broke some things (framework res?) So I reflashed the srf and emotionless beast theme.

Excellent rom! Battery life and speed increases are much appreciated. No problems whatsoever.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Not sure what that is, you could freeze it and see

Sent from a truly Epic phone on the XDA Premium app ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] robl45:
yea, i'm trying to find a way to stop the services sanservice and dockservice. i been turning them off as often as i can.
[Epic 4G Android Development] stir fry a lot:
Post #9356

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=13436651&highlight=haptic#post13436651

I flashed it on top of the Lockscreen.zip found on the first page and its fine.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dchawk81:
Sanservice is system update. You can freeze it in titanium backup until you need it again. The system update menu (for PRL, software, profile, etc) will force close though if you do. It'll work again when you thaw it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] hayzooos:
This is good to know...that way, if we choose to manually update our PRL, we can freeze this service so they can't roll us back. Would that be accurate?
[Epic 4G Android Development] johny005:
New Release date ??

Do you guys have a release date? Something i can look Forward too? Don't get me wrong, I love the newest version.. Just looking for that something special

:)
[Epic 4G Android Development] hayzooos:
I'm sure it will be within a few days of their lead dev getting his phone back. From what I understand, version 1.1.1 is almost complete, but k0 needs to run tests and such on his own device, which he's been without for prolly three-ish weeks now.

And no need to flame the guy for asking about an ETA but johny, don't ask for ETA's (estimated time of arrival) for new releases.
[Epic 4G Android Development] johny005:
Sorry about asking for an release date,.... My roommate just picked up the Nexus S 4G, and he's on the ginger bread release, nexus S is the same phone but with out the keyboard..

:( sorry guys, Much <3
[Epic 4G Android Development] hayzooos:
No worries, I just know some people will jump down your throat because of it. And there are other differences between the two phones outside the keyboard. SD card for one. The Nexus S doesn't have one. They are very, very similar though.

A new release of Gingerbread for the Epic just came out a little while ago, EE05. Means it was compiled (I think) on May 5th. My guess is some of the devs here may have it already, but k0 won't make a real ROM without the official release from SamSprint. So until you see that, you won't see a true ACS ROM running gingerbread. You may see others that will create ROMs on leaks, but these guys don't.