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[Xoom General] dblake15:
oh yeah with AirVideo. That is really nice. Like someone said before it really is a great multimedia device. I just get bored with it.
[Xoom General] lanternca:
Moto's profit is going to be less than that because they also have to pay for a 4g radio, installation and shipping.
[Xoom General] atoy74:
AirVideo is one of the best apps we can hope for on Android. I love it. Set and forget video conversion with zero errors ever. No audio sync issues.
[Xoom General] labbbby:
I installed Plex on my PC yesterday and I am thoroughly impressed. It found meta data for all my Tv Series and Movies. Interface is awesome and the Android client is working like a charm. Even 3G streaming is super smooth, no matter if the source is 720 or SD.

It states that it's not optimized for Tablet, yet, but if they upgrade their app, it would be a killer app on Honeycomb!
[Xoom General] BBalz:
Give me the Xoom any day over a locked down Apple product.

I used to be all about the iPhone and even contemplated an iPad for a tablet but I wanted to have a desktop experience with a mix of my phone...

After getting a DX I wanted that experience with a bit more desktop and the Xoom is exactly what I've been waiting for. A few bugs... yes but overall I've loved the Xoom and have been contemplating the sale of my laptop.

I'm very please with this product and dont ever see myself getting another Apple mobile type product.
[Xoom General] jallmitch:
No fence involved

I purchased the Xoom and have enjoyed it very much.

The quality of the HP camera is excellent, with the led flash on in a dark room.... you can see an example of it in the youtube video, be sure to change it to 720p: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj-WLKzcr-8

I have Documents To Go 3.0 Full Version on it and can create and edit office documents - not that you couldn't with an iPad - but it is much better than using a phone.

Yes, there are not alot of apps for it yet....but that opens the market for those of us that want to develop apps for Android, one of the other reasons why I purchased this device.

iPads do not have expandable SD cards......hmmm

iPads do not have Flash support.... (yes Xoom currently does not but that will change)

everyone that I have talked to, either likes iPads or doesn't....so there will also be those people for the XOOM.
[Xoom General] justabrake:
I'll be flipping this piece of junk when it arrives, I have read about enough here to realize this is not going to work for me,

There's to many problems coming out the gate and I don't want to be tester anymore, I need something that works and could tether for me.
[Xoom General] schnoz:
Why is the keyboard so much more responsive on the ipad then on any android device? That seems like a big thing to not fix by google.
[Xoom General] justabrake:
same reason the ipad is faster and more responsive then the xoom better UI and I tested both together at best buy the ipad is faster and smoother
[Xoom General] schnoz:
It just doesnt make any sense. Smoothness and input should be the priorities of an os. Google dropped the ball on both.
[Xoom General] p-slim:
You're trippin. I have an iPad and a xoom yes the ipad does have scrolling smoothness but the device is terribly slow. Programs take for ever to open and programs often crash. Xoom scrolling is on par and web browsing and app processing are TREMENDOUSLY better on the xoom
[Xoom General] schnoz:
We are talking about keyboard responsiveness. I wont deny that apps load quocker on the xoom. It has 4x the ram and 2x the processing speed.
[Xoom General] Bauxite:
This, the Xoom browser is so much smoother than the iPad browser and it's constant blank white spaces where the content is loading... always.
[Xoom General] p-slim:
Keyboard responsiveness I can agree with
[Xoom General] Bauxite:
Let's not forget that when iOS 2.0 came out the keyboard barely worked on the iPhone. Things improve with time.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Remember that the Xoom has 4 times the ram and 2 times the processing power. It better be better at browsing. Can't wait to see Anandtech benchmark the new iPad2. Hopefully they can do some of this tomorrow with some hands on.
[Xoom General] schnoz:
And now google is on 3.0. I havent seen the keyboard lag get any better since the first release of android 1.5.
[Xoom General] Bauxite:
The keyboard on my evo has never lagged. Ever... seriously I don't remember it ever being laggy. Now when I had my iPhone, that **** lagged all the time.
[Xoom General] Bauxite:
I'm curious among those that are so obsessed with smoothness, do you cover your house in lube and skate around? :D EVERYTHING MUST BE SMOOTH :eek:
[Xoom General] p-slim:
No flash has been hindering my web browsing experience on my xoom, tabs needs flash badly and as we all know the iPad will never win that battle. My girl has fun with the iPad but for me no flash means no iPad for me.
[Xoom General] p-slim:
Best joke of the day this actually brought tears to my eyes, many thanks :D I fully agree. My brother brings up that damn argument all the time
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Never say never. Imagine if they announce flash support for the iPad 2 and launch the iPad 2 with flash tomorrow. OMFG will Apple fanboys be trolling you Xoom owners hardcore. Probably not going to happen, but it could EASILY happen if they bump up the specs of the iPad significantly.
[Xoom General] brockwitting:
As someone who owned an iPad, and sold it for the Xoom, then returned the Xoom for a cheaper Xoom, and is contemplating canceling the order of the cheaper Xoom since Moto still hasn't shipped it, even though they said three days in a row it would go out the next day...

Some thoughts:

I actually liked the Xoom keyboard better than the iPad, I could type faster on it after just one use. It didn't lag at all.

The cost of the Xoom is still too high, I wish they would have released the wifi version @ $5-600

I am very excited to see what the iPad2 will bring, but i think the release of iOS 5 is more important than the hardware. I think it would be interesting to have widget support in iOS, and see what else apple does.

I like the iPad since it has more apps available, but Android counterparts are always as good if not better than iOS brethren.

I know I am being nitpicky, but the Xoom is a bit heavy and the iPad 2 will make it look like a monster.

The Xoom would be perfect if it was a bit lighter and supported skype/netflix. I am sure the iPad 2 will be a great machine as well, but I can't justify using an OS that is nothing more than an app launcher with a clock and battery indicator.

I will pass final judgement on the iPad 2 tomorrow after launch, but for now, I think I will stick with the Xoom is Motorola ever decides to send it to me. I love Apple hardware. I have a 15" i7 MBP, an 11.6" MBA, I had an iPad, but I can't STAND iOS. I bought a d1 over getting an iPhone, and I had no desire to get it when it came to verizon. If Apple made a tablet with dual cameras that ran honeycomb, id be all over it. Sorry for the totally random rant, but I just thought I would pass along my thoughts. /2cents
[Xoom General] p-slim:
Flash could work on ios I'm pretty sure but apple and adobe love to hate each other, but you're right iPad with flash is a beast but still keeping my xoom :-) hopefully iPad 2 is 4G or that's another #fail. I honestly thought I was going to cancel my service but $20 for 1gb isn't bad when I just don't feel like tethering, lte will be beastly
[Xoom General] calin75:
The same way I would never vote republican, I would never buy apple. I'm not content with "it just works", I need to have control over my hardware; only android is the way!!!

:D
[Xoom General] MichaelWestin:
I know this isn't possible, but if I could run iOS Apps on Android, I'd be set. The iPad isn't special. It is hardware. The Xoom beats the first one, maybe it'll be better than the iPad2, maybe slightly worse, and maybe it will be a matter of preference such as higher graphics processing on the new iPad but the same resolution, and compromises will need to be made. But in six months, I'm sure another tablet with updated specs will most likely beat the Ipad2, and if nVidia sticks to their guidelines of "Tegra 3 IN TABLETS" by whenever it is they said (I think Aug or Sept? I forgot) then we will most definitely have an awesome piece of hardware out shortly after the iPad2 comes out.

But whatever. You're always upgrading hardware. It is just the same old story. Been doing it w/ PCs for decades, and most of us techies would get individual parts and upgrade slowly if we didn't have enough cash to buy a new mobo/ram/video card/cpu all at the same time. Admit it.. something like upgrading from 256mb of ram to 512 was a ridiculous performance boost back in the day, all by itself.

Now you just get one item... no upgrading. You pick carefully, and you match what you want to get out of it with what you want to pay for it. Specs are specs.

Long gone are the days where specs was all that mattered, because (for the most part - I'm gonna say this for windows users) anybody could download or buy applications and use what they wanted. Just about everything worked fine except the typical graphics/processor intensive things - video encoding, Graphics acceleration, etc. You weren't locked out though.. you just turned down some settings, or waited a little longer for something to get finished.

Now the system you pick has a large effect of applications you can and cannot run. I know Mac has had their own apps, but I mean, people get creative with desktops. You can run Virtual OSes, or even use apps that allow you to install applications cross platform. But now we're talking about a good tens of thousands of applications that each side doesn't have. The only solution right now? Own both, or make a compromise.

Yeah, iOS Apps on Android and I'd be happy. If I don't want to wait a year for a refresh, I don't have to. If I want to use a goddam SD card, because 64 gb isn't enough when some apps/games are almost a gig each, great. Believe me, there are a lot of large apps on iOS, and on Android Dungeon defenders is what, like 600mb+.

I know, it isn't possible, but that is really the only thing that puts me on the fence with even considering an iPad. There are really a lot of good, high quality apps that don't exist on Android. As great as android is, I know it has a good amount of apps in the app store, but the number of quality apps is lower. There really isn't a measure as to what a quality app is, but if anyone has used but, and has downloaded a bunch of stuff, you can just tell in your gut. But on the bright side, Android activations are through the roof, and it is only a matter of time before applications are developed for both or developers jump ship.

Damn. Sorry for the long post, I guess that has been building up.
[Xoom General] schnoz:
I think if iOS has better multitasking and widgets, safari renders webpages faster and has tabbed browsing, then ill have to go with the ipad 2. If it doesnt do any of that stuff, its android for me. It all comes down to tomoorows announcement at 1pm est. Its time to impress me apple.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
The crappy part is that I personally HATE iOS, but Apple hardware is so amazing that its ridiculous. That all aluminum back on the original iPad, jesus it just yells quality. I don't think the iPad2 is going to revolutionary and i don't think iOS5 is going to be revolutionary.

But if it is, we know that Apple REALLY sees android as a threat. Basically, the more functionality they enable in the new iPad, the bigger threat they see from Android. It will be a good gauge.
[Xoom General] Bauxite:
It's funny how nice the aluminum back is, yet I have never seen in public outside a case besides the apple store/best buy. I'd rather have better hardware than pretty hardware I'm just going to cover up.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Haha, very true. Mine is in a case and hasn't really been out of it since i bought it. Of course the plan was to buy the ipad and sell it in the fall when all the cool Android tablets hit. That fell through. I'm right with you there about the internal hardware though. Pretty much the only reason i bought the Epic4g over the EVO, and of course Samsung repaid my gratitude by holding Froyo for 6 months. Ugh, cant win with technology.
[Xoom General] thunderstruck!:
After seeing the WSJ story about the cost of the components, I'm a little bothered by the rather high mark up on the Xoom, and the fact they aren't offering a Wi Fi only version. I am a T Mobile customer, under contract, and have no intention of switching carriers now or when my contract is up. If I need internet connectivity on a tablet, I'll tether it to my Nexus 1. The CEO screwed up big time by delaying the Wi Fi version, because by the time they release it there will be other desirable tablets on the market. Eventually the shareholders will figure this out and they may ask why he's in charge of the company.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703749504576172803056978740.html
[Xoom General] Bauxite:
Which says nothing about R&D, Marketing, Support.. imagine the salaries of all the people who went into designing thing not to mention the people that support it then think about how much you would charge to recoup those costs. I agree it sucks to pay so much for hardware that costs so little in bulk... but there is more to the xoom than the parts that go into it.
[Xoom General] AZTECHKA:
No iPad for me... I can't get myself to buy ANYTHING Apple. Not sure if its because I'm a Microsoft fanboi (inspire of my EVO) Or what else it could be. I like the tablet form factor but Apple just will never get my business. I'm not closed minded when it comes to other things. Apple just does something to me that I just don't like.

p.
[Xoom General] Inphinitizeit:
Or the upcoming 4g chip.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Pretty sure all of those costs would be higher for Apple since they both had to create the OS and put the hardware together, so the comparison between Apple and Motorola in that sense is still valid.

I agree that Motorola should have released the wifi version first, but they must have some sort of market strategy with selling the expensive model first. Maybe as a "look at this nice thing that you cant have because its so expensive" and then a "oh wait what is this over here a model you can afford????". idk.
[Xoom General] Greg G:
I wanted and android device a year ago but decided to buy the iPad because it had one key advantage: it existed :D

I have to say that I absolutely love my iPad. I bought my first tablet when Ms trid tried to invent the space. I had a slate so went all in. What a horrible experience with that stupid pen interface. Anyway, Apple got it right. I jailbreak so can customize in ways that are important to me.

I do like widgets in my Android!phone experience but at the end of the day it is about apps. The quantity of quality apps and the experience of running them on the hardware. Apple iOS is where the money is for developers so until that changes iPad will have my vote. Once the apps are equal, and i do think that will happen over the next couple of years, then I can see myself prefering Android.

I plan to have both with my android device being more work focused. My company does some android development so that is also a factor. That said, if iPad 2 matches the rumored improvements (512mb ram, thinner, lighter, bettter CPU and gpu, and at least a front facing camera) then it will be pretty hard to resist. They better not release another model I the fall like rumors are saying though. That could lead to divorse! :rolleyes:
[Xoom General] muyoso:
The only way Apple does that is if they are REALLY scared of Android tablets and the iPad 2 is REALLY underpowered compared to what Android is offering.
[Xoom General] parrotheadmjb:
I think the iPad 2 is gonna be like the iPod photo... released early in the year and replaced by something much better 6 months later (iPod video). I think this is to hold people over since everything they want in the iPad 2 isnt feasible until the fall. I'm pretty sure we'll be seeing a second one this year, the market is getting more and more competitive.
[Xoom General] serialtoon:
*calmly and slowly raises hand*
[Xoom General] knut150:
:cool: Agreed!!!

And after all the work of making my house “apple free”, (just 2 ipods classic left),:D there is no way for me to be in the fence; but I hope they release a devise with good specs, therefore forcing the manufactures of our tablets to match such. And it will be a lot of fun debating all of this tomorrow.
[Xoom General] srt4b:
The iPad has a full year lead on development. The Apps it has blow Android out of the water. Hulu, Netflix, VLC, Adult Swim, and all the apps that are out on both platforms the iOS versions are 90% of the time much better than the Android version.

Audio & Video is much better in iOS. iTunes on the iPad is great for downloading podcasts. The iPod app is also really solid.

The free find my iphone/ipad service is also great.

That said it does have major downfalls.

Notifications are laughable. No microSD sucks. Syncing is bothersome. Safari sucks, no tabs & scrolling is a PITA. I just sold my iPad and I will probably order the replacement tomorrow based on what apple announces.

Also I am huge Gtalk/Gvoice/Gmail user so the xoom would be great in that regard.

The Alien Blue HD app is also fantastic on the iPad.
[Xoom General] martonikaj:
Fortunately for Apple, the iPad doesn't have to have the same amount of power as an Android tablet. Their UI and OS is very simple and light (not to mention restrictive obviously lol) and so the amount of power required to run it smoothly is pretty low. The thing is, Apple is all about the user experience and that includes battery life. They're gonna use the minimum amount of power required to keep things smooth and maximize battery life.
[Xoom General] Dropkick69:
This whole thing is just another PC vs Mac debate that the Apple crowd has been whining about since 1986. Those that know nothing about computers, voted for Obama, are under 18, believe all propaganda on the internet against anything Apple, and think apple is the work of Jesus will buy one and you won't change their mind.

I am issued an iphone 4 and an ipad at work, because the boss is an Apple-can-do-no-wrong fanboy, and guess what? Both of them sit in my desk drawer 90% of the time. My EVO and my new Xoom do everything either of the apple devices do, including extras like actually complete phone calls (yes the iphone is an AT&T device), run network tools such as Wi-Fi scanners, and whatever else *I* want to do.

Those that dwell on the standard "Cons:" that the fanboy-written "reviews" all parrot together like gossiping teenagers about the Xoom: no adobe flash, no SD, few apps, price, etc. clearly can't think for themselves. And all of those things will go away in a couple of weeks. And our ipad's cost $800 (or was it $899?), too. What's the big deal? These people that gripe about the power button being on the left instead of the right or don't like the color of the charging light need to turn off their technology, go outside, and get a girlfriend. And no, not via match.com.

So will I look at the ipad2? Yeah probably just to see why we don't need to waste money on them at work. Will I buy one? Never. It will be just like the original ipad, just a phone-less iphone with a big screen. Then again, that's what most tablets are anyways! Come to think of it, what does the Xoom do that my EVO doesn't? :D
[Xoom General] jallmitch:
iPad 2 ????

No 4G LTE

No Flash

No Expandable SD

I'm glad I have my XOOM......

Yes the first two are not here at the moment, but at least I get them.

I guess you could always get a mifi, or a LTE phone to use with your iPad 2.

Now you can get off the fence, or at least change your mind 3 or 4 more times before next weekend.
[Xoom General] justabrake:
Android 100 apps. Steve jobs
[Xoom General] clovis_ll:
i'm sticking to my xoom. thanks.
[Xoom General] Cooki3s:
Tbh I thought the bashes were mostly fail this time around, most people dont see past the initial "magical" reality distortion that Mr. Jobs emits. No offence, but first misquoting your competitor, than bashing a new os for having no apps (Show me the number of iPad apps a week after the SDK was released, hmm?), and than calling honeycomb (and yes, explicitly honeycomb, not like samsung or hp or w/e) a copy? Seriously?

Show me those copied widgets on the ipad 2 then, or maybe that copied adobe flash (and I could continue for quite a bit longer here).
[Xoom General] gordec:
It's sad but in all honesty, it's unlikely any one company can out-do Apple in the near future in terms of sales. Yes, everyone here likes to customize things, flash ROMs, etc. For the general public, who is looking for a tablet, 95% of them just want an easy, clean experience. I love my Captivate now coming from 3Gs, it took a long time (lots of ROMs) to come to this state. Now the whole fun of it is the process of doing it, so I'm going to stick with Android phones for a good while.

But just from pure tablet standpoint, Ipad really is the best out there for "most people." The support and the easy of use. Seriously when I went to Costco to test out the Xoom, the day it was released, every other app I tried from Market forced closed. The early-adopter-excuse can only take you so far. I think I would go with Ipad 2. I am someone disappointed with the no change in screen quality. I wish Galaxy 10.1 gets a release date and price.
[Xoom General] thunderstruck!:
You talking about the Xoom or iPad?
[Xoom General] justabrake:
This is my most wanted feature with iOS 4.3

Personal Hotspot for iPhone 4 is another new function implemented in iOS 4.3, which will allow you to share one 3G connection between your iPhone and iPad, so no more cables for tethering. ;)
[Xoom General] Eclair~:
This is what I'm going for as well.
[Xoom General] jkurl:
No need for cables to tether w/ the iPhone. Just jail break it and download mywifi. Of course the average apple goon would not jail break their presious. I watch the event today and at first I was impressed w/ the Ipad2. Of course I was hoping the apple store was taking orders right away. Glad they weren't cause the more I thought about it the more I said what in the hell was I thinking. My son has an I pad and I was gonna replace his but said why pay more for just two cameras and a couple of magnets in the body. So it a little lighter and it comes in white. Apples voodoo magic almost got me.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Pretty sweet burn.
[Xoom General] SS2006:
hah i hope ur not on the fence nemore

ipad 2 got blown away by the xoom

LIGHTER, THINNER, LIGHTER, THINNER

apple fan boys can just scream that all day
[Xoom General] DatterBoy:
I'm not. I'm going XOOM. But the crappy screen makes me sad. Don't mind anything else.
[General Questions and Answers] JDevil:
Hi long time lurker here. I have an issue that I have not been able to solve despite quite a bit of effort.

I have an HTC Incredible, running Redemptive Revolution (Awesome job Lou) 2.2 and had a 16gb (class 6 i believe). Yesterday, though I can't quite remember but android crashed hard. I'm pretty sure it had to do with a program called dual mount, that mounts sd card on android and windows at the same time.

Any who, long story short, it wiped my ability for both android and windows to see the files. The partition is viewed as RAW on windows. My question, does anyone know how to easily correct this without formatting? And secondly, how does android format the card, are there two partitions fat12/fat32?

I ran a check on the card through all the sectors, not one is bad, I have created a raw image backup. I also know at what sectors the partition starts, is there any easy way to just "rewrite" [sorry this is just one step past my knowledge] where the sector begins?

I'm not familiar with recovering data off SD cards, if I format the card, should I still theoretically be able to recover files like a regular drive?

Thank you for any suggestions, I'm trying to avoid formatting just because of the hassle of the possible loss of important files.