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[Xoom General] muyoso:
That typically, a video encoded with Baseline@L1.3 would have a resolution of 352×288 @ 30 frames per second.

That a 1080p video encoded at High@L5.1 for example would look a lot nicer and be a smaller size than one encoded at Baseline@L1.3.
[Xoom General] rjoudrey:
All I care about is that they run great and they do.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Just care that you hit the magic 1080 number and it plays? LOL, to each their own I guess.
[Xoom General] rjoudrey:
This is all Greek to me. Why should I care if it works?
[Xoom General] muyoso:
If you like it you shouldn't care. Don't let someone else convince you to not like what you like.
[Xoom General] rjoudrey:
The conversions run very smooth, are a manageable size and very good quality as you can tell if you download the samples. I use the 720P settings of course.
[Xoom General] dvdcatalyst:
Thank you Muyose, then I would like you to show me if you can do better.

Original location of the trailer I used:

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/dreamworks/pussinboots/

I used the 1080 version.

I'd like you to create a High@L5.1 from the same source and show me the difference in quality and filesize, without care if it plays on the Xoom, so we can compare the quality differences.

I know quality can be improved a little, but this trailer converted using those settings at about 20fps on my core2duo 2.16Ghz laptop. I could turn on some additional quality options so I could get it to run at 1fps, but I don't see any difference between the original and the created file.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
You are selling a conversion program right?

So can you tell me how I can take this (the video you linked to):

And convert it to High@L5.1 and improve the quality? I'm not going to get into a conversion war with you to see if I can prove some point. A word of advice though, you cannot add quality to a video encoded at main@L4.1 by re-encoding it at high@L5.1. Also, you don't re-encode (transcode) a video that is already encoded to compare quality. You take the source and convert once to baseline at level 1.3 and once to high profile at level 5.1 and compare the two encodes.

Just to re-iterate, I will not be getting into a transcoding war with anyone. I dont have the patience or the level of care needed. If you want to do some kind of comparison, find a video that is High@L5.1 and transcode it to Baseline@L1.3. That would be at least a semi valid comparison as its what most people would have to do.
[Xoom General] cwizardtx:
Here's a non partial viewpoint, as far as I know the only reason you should care is that if you use the high profile to encode the file is typically about 30% smaller in actual size. The issue however is that the Xoom just can't handle it (right now?) so the only choice is low profile. Sure the file size is bigger but honestly the picture quality is still great.

I have been having a blast working with various media formats and putting them on the Xoom to show off... it's really not so rough. Someone always has to go through this a first time for everything so this is my 1st time.

I see guys ***** that their Droid Whatever will play all files under the sun and to that I say horse-crap. Everything has limitations and guidelines so we're just trying to follow them to ensure compatibility.
[Xoom General] dvdcatalyst:
Thanks for the reply.

Thats basically the point that I am making. I'm using a HD source, and convert it in order to make it work on the Xoom, and it looks pretty much identical.

If we would have access to the actual master of that trailer, then yes, you are right, the High@L5.1 would probably look better, but unless you just want to put your own HD recordings on your Xoom, you have to use what you have access to, such as Bluray, which is already compressed, thus the options are a bit limited.

I am not asking for a conversion war, however, your response about the profile resulting in low quality video just triggered my interest. Like I said, the quality of the created video is pretty much identical to that of the original, and it looks and plays great on the Xoom as well as on HDMI.

That you can get better quality if you use a better quality source is obvious, but if you don't have access to a better quality version (as most people) having something that is visually the same is what you would want,

As for the filesize, the original trailer was encoded using nearly double the video bitrate of what I used for the 1080 version, while visually it looks the same.
[Xoom General] cwizardtx:
I want to quickly point out that the author of DVD Cat did not come here to promote his software and in fact has been *extremely* helpful not only to myself but other users of this forum and I haven't paid him a dime.

Your information is also *extremely* helpful to me and I thank you for your very informative posts. It's helping me to understand all this mess, and actually confirms my views that people crying about how the Xoom can't play HD need to take another hit.
[Xoom General] dvdcatalyst:
have a look at the trailers, both original and the Xoom-optimized ones, and see for yourself.

Thank you. Since I'm a "vendor" and am the only one of my kind actually responding in this thread, I guess you are referring to me. Just for the record, I actually own a Xoom, and have been working 18hour days since I picked it up in order to tweak settings and figuring things out. In all of my responses since I joined these forums, I have not linked or even mentioned my website, and only responded to questions people either had about my software or responded to video questions without mentioning my own software.
[Xoom General] e.mote:
I've mentioned no names. Any inference is left strictly to the reader.

I'll also add that I expect this to be a temporary situation. The Tegra2 has a powerful GPU, and lack of driver support is why we're stuck with only native Android capability. With virtually every announced Honeycomb tablet using Tegra2's, I expect a solution sooner rather than later.

My various tech readings of the Tegra2 capability is that the GPU is capable of 720p HP and 1080p MP. Other than the coming quad-core Tegra, I've seen no other ARM/GPU combo explicitly claiming 1080p HP support.
[Xoom General] mcdoomington:
Full Disclosure: I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to talking about HD video...

Just adding to the pile here, I guess, but my XOOM experience so far:

-Using Rockplayer Lite

-AVI playback is totally fine, smooth

-HD WMV playback: software decoding doesn't work; hardware decoding works for video, but audio is spotty

-MKV playback (H.264, 1080p): no audio, video is totally distorted

-MKV playback (H.264, 720p): video works with hardware decoding but no audio

So assuming that most of my HD library is high-profile, what's the best way for me (in Windows 7) to convert files to main profile quality?
[Xoom General] DebianDog:
it all comes down to bitrate and decode. I have HD video that will choke your average PC (DVCPRO@100Mbps)

Expecting the Zoom or any other tablet to be able to play "full" 1080p is laughable.
[Xoom General] paulshields:
Not sure if Samsung ever claim high profile support (High@L4.1 is probably not a very marketable term) but the galaxy tab can play such high profile 1080p files flawlessly, and is divX hd certified (which is essentially h.264 in mkv). Only caveat is DTS audio won't decode, though AC3 is fine. My various readings of the Tegra 2 is that there is a hardware bottleneck with regards to handling high profile media, but I would be very happy to be proven wrong as my next tablet will likely have a tegra 2 chip...
[Xoom General] DebianDog:
I call BS. The 41 profile is up to 50kps. It may play some videos depending on how it was encoded but I seriously doubt it can play the highend of the level specifications . That being said the limit of the Zoom is 20k as advertised by Motorola . Yes current playback can be choppy but I envision software updates to correct some shortcomings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profiles
[Xoom General] BigJermZ:
With all these converters and conversions has anyone been able to play a "good quality" movie that uses the whole screen of the xoom without stretching the video???+

ive tried 4 converters with all the same result 720p wont fill my screen.
[Xoom General] sangreal06:
That is certainly the impression the Boxee team had when they dumped the Tegra 2 in the Boxee Box...

You can find similar quotes from the XBMC team
[Xoom General] DebianDog:
Your screen is 800 wide how could it without cropping the 1280?

720p = 1280x720

Xoom= 1280x800
[Xoom General] sangreal06:
800 is the height in landscape mode, and it includes the System Bar which is always visible at the bottom as far as I know. I've heard, but haven't verified myself, that the display is 16:9 if you discount the system bar.
[Xoom General] BigJermZ:
800 is the height,

I will try 1280x754 with dvd catalyst today and see if i get 720p fullscreen on the xoom,

I may be wrong but 1080p can only be played with the hdmi video out option on a monitor with 1080p screen, right? The xoom does not meet the minimum screen specs to play 1080p, but it does play 720p on its screen
[Xoom General] LsRamAir:
I just started using DVDCat last night after seeing their website. It is so much easier than anything else. I liked handbreak, but this is just great. I spent the $10.

Cant wait for the next update with the new/updated XOOM profiles.

One question i have is about framerate... no matter what program i use or what settings... the video is slightly hitching. Is there a way to get perfect framerate? Thanks
[Xoom General] dvdcatalyst:
Hitching?

Could you try a few of the sample videos on my website, and see if that works better or the same?

I haven't had playback issues on my Xoom yet, either from DVD or from other sources.

Did you change any settings, like the ones I mentioned for the 720p and 1080 files?
[Xoom General] LsRamAir:
I am used to watching 120HZ TV, and im very sensitive to noticing if the 29.97 or 59.94 or 23.976 FPS isnt coming thru just as it should.

The sampled ive downloaded that are in 848x480 from your nook sample list play smoother.

Im coming from a Retail DVD, set to xoom profile. upped the video to 1600kbps and audio to 160kbps. added 2 pass.

Thanks
[Xoom General] dvdcatalyst:
I am getting some disappointing results from the Xoom in regards of 1080 playback. The samples at the top of the 720/1080 article (the pussinboots one) can you try the 720p version and see how that play for you. Yesterday I added some HighProfile 4.1 files, which play, but to be honest, the original format I use plays (and looks) a lot better.

The 720p pussinboots version is encoded using the same conversion settings as what I used for the Nookcolor samples (or the Droid-samples) but of course a lower resolution.

The problems I experience with 1080 is that even if the file plays on the Xoom properly, if you play it on HDMI, it stutters. I'm not sure if it is because I am using a 720p TV, but there definitely is a difference in playback performance between on-device and on-TV.
[Xoom General] LsRamAir:
The HP pussinboots plays very smooth, although looks a little more blocky than some of the other videos. I see it is at 24.000FPS vs the 23.976 that your other samples are.

All of the videos look good and watchable, the DVD i converted looks great and sounds good. Lipsync is all good. Im just looking for those final tweaks, which im sure is what you like including in your program.

Also, can i add custom resolutions to DVDCat4? the 1280x720 is there but i cant modify it to 754.
[Xoom General] dvdcatalyst:
You are correct, thats what I am tweaking to get just right. I think for the pussinboots trailer, I set the video bitrate a little too low. The framerate difference is something from the trailer. For those 2 testclips, I actually used 2 different versions of the trailer. the 720p version comes from the 720p version of the trailer. Normally I just get 1080's and downsize them to whatever it needs to be.

There is currently no way to actually set a custom resolution in DVD Cat. The new resolution (I actually came up with 1280x752 a few days ago after further testing) will be in the small update.

As for the release, I am releasing the small Xoom-update hopefully tomorrow. It will contain new Xoom profiles (hq1 and hq2) and the existing ones will be modified for better results. They will work great for HDMI as well.

However, I will not have 1080 profiles in it yet. Besides the fact that I am using an old core2duo for development and doing 1080 conversion tests is very time-intensive in order to get the best quality, the playback experience on the Xoom regarding 1080 is, in all honesty, disappointing.

For testing I am using a "Dark Knight" trailer (the_dark_knight-tlr2_h1080p to be exact) which has a lot of explosions and scene switches in it, so it gives me a good look at the results.
[Xoom General] dvdcatalyst:
There is one tweak that I implemented in the current version, which might be just what you are looking for.

In Global Settings > Advanced, at the very bottom(scroll down) you will find a setting for h264 conversion quality. I implemented this as a speed improvement for the NOOK and other small-screen devices, and for those, the speed increase vs quality trade-off is a nice improvement, however, for high-definition devices such as the Xoom, the quality difference is noticeable. If you increase this setting to 5, you will notice a nice quality-boost.

I'm still not sure about the hitching though. Is it consistent throughout the movie, or is it when there is a camera moving around (panning)?
[Xoom General] dbett:
So I went to the Motorola forum thread linked early in this thread. Funny thing, the 1080p youtube video linked in that thread (as an example of the problem) plays perfectly on my Xoom.

:)

I've never had a device that plays all video formats perfectly. And that includes computers, Directv boxes, phones, Blu Ray players. They all required some reformatting and hassle.
[Xoom General] reuthermonkey:
I'm sorry, but that's a silly argument to make.

My 1ghz 800x480 Samsung GalaxyS Vibrant plays every HD video I throw at it. WMV. MKV. MP4. Advanced Profile. Baseline. Whatever. It plays em. Why? Because it has drivers. Sammy's coming out with a true Galaxy Tablet this summer. I have 0 doubt that it'll have full codec support when it comes out.

It has nothing to do with Android or the Tegra hardware. It has to do with proper drivers.

As I stated above, other Android devices with lesser processors play those videos just fine. It's a matter of driver support.

Of course, I just bought my Xoom yesterday (wifi), so I may return it within 14 days if I find that this is a big issue. I certainly had planned on being able to watch movies and shows in the car or on the plane with this tablet, and if it can't do that it may be going back.
[A7 General] motokeiro:
Out of curiosity, once Meego Tablet is released would it be possible to install it on a Elocity A7?:confused:
[A7 General] edude03:
MeeGo is open source, so if you able then you could compile it yourself you can run it right now.
[Captivate General] nawlage:
So I have thus app, task manager. I dont remember installing it. Its not in the market. I can't uninstal it. Cant even forcefully remove it with tibu. Is this an essential app or wtf?
[Captivate General] nawlage:
Seems generic as hell, I know. Fyi: The icon looks like a pc tower with a pie chart in front of it.
[Captivate General] Pirateghost:
thats stock in samsung 2.2
[Captivate General] dlrjr327:
LOL. Its androids 2.2 native task manager. I only laugh because I thought the same thing when the first froyo leak dropped way back. Generic looking is the perfect way to describe it.
[Captivate General] nawlage:
Hah! That explains why I froze in recovery after trying to wipe it with tibu. When it refused to run along I kinda figured it was native
[EVO Shift 4G General] derik123derik123:
Alright, so i'm coming from the htc evo 4G and I was running cm7 on it.

I recently bought the shift and it should be here in a few days.

I was reading a few threads and saw people had oc'd to 1.8 and were still getting ~24+ hours of battery.

What I was wondering was what is the best rom and kernel combination for speed/performance and about 24+ hours of battery?

I'm used to aosp, coming from cm7, but if need be I can use sense.

thanks :)
[EVO Shift 4G General] Aaargh!:
This is my first android phone and I am still trying to find a set-up that can make the battery last through a day. Right now I am rooted and over-clocked at 1.2 using on demand. After a long day of phone calls, emails, and text messaging I am struggling to last from 7 am - 5pm. Hope some of the new roms can help both of us.
[EVO Shift 4G General] mcarrion78:
i easily get 14-16 hours out of my battery and im a heavy user in a low signal area most of the day. its just like any other phone thats out there really. your battery life is going to be determined by your usage. i can promise you that you'll get better battery life then an Evo
[EVO Shift 4G General] Aaargh!:
just wondering what governor your using and what rom. I know each phone is different, but just looking for some suggestions.
[Dell Venue] vittayach:
Use this phone for a month already, just normal use but turn on wireless all day. My batt cannot last long until night. Is it normal? Anyway to help my battery to make it til night.
[Dell Venue] phucleo:
It's normal :) Install advance task manager from market and let it auto kill tasks while screen's standby ....will increase your battery time.
[Dell Venue] captkkk:
WiFi will be off while standing by usually, and if using app like "timeout3g", and phone profile manager (I use Phone Weaver) to turn off phone while you are sleeping, you will find you can last your Venue for more than a day.
[Dell Venue] nghoanglong:
Hic, I wonder why you use Y5 the whole day :o

I use Smart Bar /Advanced Task Killers to kill unnessessary apps, Startup Manager to select only essential start apps. That helps.:)
[About XDA developers] tattedupboy:
You guys are lifesavers! This past Sunday, I "bricked" my rooted Droid 2 trying to install the Big DX Crystal ROM on it; this was the 2nd phone I had "bricked" in 3 weeks.

Before you wonder why I was attempting to put a Droid X ROM on a Droid 2, I successfuuly installed Big DX Serenity on another phone last month, so I thought I'd be able to to the same with Crystal.

Long story short, my phone just did and endless boot cycle with the Big DX Crystal logo, and the Nandroid backups I thought I had made weren't showing up. By this time I was in full panic mode because there didn't seem to be anything I could do to restore my phone.

But lo and behold, I saw a forum on this site dedicated to "unbricking" "bricked" Droid 2s. Initially, I ran into problems getting RSD lite to work, but once I did, I was absolutely ecstatic.

Long story short, I'm sending this from the Droid 2 I brought back to life. You guys on here are the freakin greatest! I don't know what I would have done without you! I don't think I'll be installing any custom ROMs any time soon (if ever), but that's ok. The reason I'm able to post this using my now unrooted Droid 2 with stock ROM is because of you guys. Thanks!
[About XDA developers] Captainkrtek:
Glad the community could be to assistance of you, happy hacking! :)
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericizzy1:
im getting com.sec.android.app.screencapture FC on EB13.

can anyone help me get rid of it? thanks
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 063_XOBX:
Use the application manager to force stop the service.
[Captivate General] LlamaLord:
Alright Here is what i got

Model# Samsung-SGH-I897

Firmware Vr. - 2.2.1

Baseband Vr - I9000UGJK4

Kernel Vr - 2.6.32.9 Hardcore@speedmod-i897-k13c-500hz #28

Build# - Serendipity 5.11

I am able to Send Text, Make Calls, Receive Some Text, BUT NOT RECEIVE CALLS!:confused::confused::confused:

Here is a video to show you what is going on...it looks like a quick Force CLose comes up sometimes and you cant see what closes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlDGOaY_T74

Let me know what you guys think!
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
I was having this issue on my stock but rooted Cappy and could only fix it by installing a new ROM.
[Droid X General] mtlons:
I'm on liberty 1.5, with go launcher. I have go launcher set to hide the status bar, and open notifications when I hit home while on a homescreen.

With the original liberty theme, things were fine. Then, I installed the nex-theme (had to dl on my comp because it wasn't working through the toolbox). When I hit home to drop down the notifications, the top bar (status bar?) disappears, but if I'm in an app and drop down the notification bar, the status bar is still there. I went into the go launcher settings, and set it to show the status bar, and it does, and continues to show when I drop down the notifications.

I'd like to have the status bar hidden on the home screen, but still show (like it used to) when I drop the notifications down.

Any ideas?

Also, if you guys know why I can't install themes through the toolbox, I'd appreciate some help. I didn't leave the screen, didn't loose wifi, and it went into recovery automatically. The file downloaded through toolbox was incomplete (12.x instead of 16.x MB), but I'm not sure why it didn't finish.

Thanks guys.
[Droid X General] Jmoney47:
If you choose to hide the status bar, it will he hidden. That's what the setting means
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dante04SRT:
I've GOT to be doing something wrong here... I can get Ti-Ba to backup/restore most of my stuff, but with every flash I've done, I ALWAYS lose (and can't get back for some reason) my Home Screen setups.

Q#1: What option in Ti-Ba SHOULD I be using to BACKUP?

Q#2: What option in Ti-Ba SHOULD I be using to RESTORE(to restore apps/data and home screen stuff?)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pirateghost:
it doesnt restore home screen setups
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crystalhand:
Not true it remembers my layout for launcher pro but not the widgets obviously. I only backup and restore user apps
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dante04SRT:
The main reason I even thought it did/SHOULD was because in some of the how-to videos, it clearly shows it being done, real time with Ti-Ba.... but - For whatever reason, it never works for me, using the exact same Batch command.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pirateghost:
this is correct. it does NOT restore your widgets

this is for 3rd party like launcher pro

i dont believe it can restore touchwiz at all
[Xoom General] foldog22:
Hey all, I can't seem to get my Xoom to connect to my incredible that is running the wifi hotspot app. I am guessing that is because it is an ad-hoc network. Anybody know of a work around?
[Xoom General] jeston:
I was having the same problem with my Droid. I ended up using the Bluetooth option and connected my Xoom to that. Works great.
[Xoom General] randytheshiv:
i had the same issue with my d2g. i reinstalled from the market and changed the channel to ch. 8. now i'm tethering in high gear.
[Venue Pro General] Crimson Lotus:
I thought the DvP Comes w/ 512MB of RAM, Is this a mistake? Could you guys check if you have 225 or 512 of RAM.

Thanks

I use an App called Device Info to check.
[Venue Pro General] alodar1:
there is quite a long thread or two on this already. Search this forum, or go back a page or 2. Lots of good info.
[Venue Pro General] pjfan75:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=892193
[Venue Pro General] Crimson Lotus:
Sorry about That...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hardcor__:
So where I live I have to roam to have decent reception, and mikfroyo doesn't have the affiliated only option like cyanogen has, is there a app or anything to force roaming ?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sultan.of.swing:
Roam control in the market. It is a paid app.

Only problem is you will be stuck using 1xrtt.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hardcor__:
Any free apps? or manual way to do it?