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[Atrix 4G Accessories] ecapox:
I have no idea how much these are going to cost me and i wont know until i can give them a battery cover to work with.

Honestly, if i have to get 50 made (they estimated 50-100), i wouldnt do it unless the price i could sell them for was about $40. Regular cases are around $30 so $40 would be a great price. Most CF cases are grossly overpriced and i'd like to avoid that.

Also, this would be a replacement for the battery cover. It wouldn't be a case so it would still work in the docking stations.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] cegna09:
I seriously doubt you'll ever see a carbon or any other compost back. There is just no way to mold in the little clips that hold the back on. So plastic is your only bet. you can't even wrap in carbon because you need to fold the material over the edge for a good hold, and doing so would block the locking clips.

I'm trying my hand at covering the back in 3M DI-NOC (carbon fiber looking vinyl), which should give it some grip.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] ecapox:
I have no experience with CF but those little tabs may be moldable (is that even a word??). Ill continue to investigate. If it doesnt work, i lost nothing.

If you get that Dinoc on post some pics up here. I'd be interested to see how it holds up around the corners since it cannot be folded back inside due to very small tolerances between the phone and the cover.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] cegna09:
having a little experience with molding and CF, it will be so hard to get a good piece with the proper mounting tabs, you'll have more scrap than good pieces. Not to mention that when it's that thin, it will probably snap after a few uses (mounting clips, not cover). CF isn't some magical material you can will into any shape like you can melted plastic. To mold in the locking tabs means the piece would be "clipped" into the mold upon completion, not a desirable situation.

I will post if i get the DI-NOC to look presentable. I know a few places sell pre-cut DI-NOC protectors, but those don't cover 100% of the phone.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] ecapox:
Your experience with CF is a lot more than mine, so ill take your word for it, but i will still investigate because it wont cost me anything. If it works, great.

The only thing i'll put on mine is a very thin "sticker" or nothing. A case isnt going to work for me as i will be using a dock. It seems stupid to think that companies made a case when all they had to do was replicate the battery cover and then market this as "Hey look, our solution works with your dock."
[Atrix 4G Accessories] KryptosXLayer2:
Let's see if you beat me to it! See the Captivate in my signature! I can't stand how slippery this thing is compared to my Di-Noc carbon fiber Captivate.... The only advantage to it is that it works great on my Desk Genie
[Atrix 4G Accessories] cegna09:
Hey, if you can get it done, then more power to you, just trying to make sure you have a realistic outlook going in.

I'm betting companies don't make just backs because the design is 'proprietary' to the manufacturer.

1'x4' piece of DI-NOC is sitting at home, will attempt tonight.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] ecapox:
I didnt even think of that! Surely there is some Chinese company chomping at the bit to make some cash. :D

EDIT

A clear acrylic battery cover would look cool. Show the insides a bit. And that will SURELY be cheaper than CF.

Im full of ideas today.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] cegna09:
I apparently fail at vinyl. I can't get it to wrap the corners nicely, the stuff is too thick.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] elementaldragon:
OMG.... clear acrylic would be AWESOME!!!!
[Atrix 4G Accessories] KryptosXLayer2:
That **** is ROUGH, let me tell you.... I have done rear view mirrors (not side view, the interior ones) and man I thought all 11 years experience I've had doing vinyl was a damn joke! I gave up on even starting the back panel, check out the thread I just created for the carbon fiber front and sides, not to mention the back panel with REMOVED AT&T logo, REMOVED "HD VIDEO" text, and the "blur" in Moto blur....

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=967076
[Atrix 4G Accessories] ranova:
I would love a soft touch replacement back cover.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] mister_al:
I asked PowerMat - they said they have no plans "yet"... contact them and say you want one, they respond to demand
[Atrix 4G Accessories] neer2005:
MobileCity has it on pre-order, looks sickkk
[Atrix 4G Accessories] e_heinemann:
I pre-ordered one from them. Just got an e-mail stating that the ETA on them has been pushed back to July. Time to find something else.

-Eric
[Atrix 4G Accessories] lsxrx7:
I cannot wait to see once this phone lands on China lol
[Atrix 4G Accessories] alphadog00:
Another place says 3/22

http://www.fommy.com/accessories.as...+4G+MB860&cat=Batteries&subCat=Battery+Covers
[Atrix 4G Accessories] Aldiggi:
They should really make a back cover made out of metal with that soft rubbery coating on the outside like they have in some of their other phoned.
[Atrix 4G Accessories] elementaldragon:
Yea, but if they did that, they'd probably have issues with either making the little tabs that lock the back cover onto the phone, or having the tabs on the metal cover somehow breaking the parts they're supposed to lock into.
[Touch Cruise General] pinkesh82:
Dear Friends,

keep doing great job,

I need your kind help to get back my orbit 2,

I have flashed android built on nand and flashed update too, but it has stop working touch screen. so i tried to get back my windows rom back. but now i have lost windows default bootloader. i have tried all the buttons too with soft reset. but i am failed to get back. i have tried t remove battery then reset , also not working this trick.

now i have locked screen of android built with non working touch screen without
[Nook Color General] gqstatus0685:
My G/F's mother works for B&N so I'm going to see if she can get a good discount on a new or refurbished unit but before I do I wanted to ask a few questions. I was thinking of getting the SGT 10.1 inch or the Moto Xoom in Wifi only flavors.

I basically want to know how the Nook color performs for games such as Angry Birds, Ninja Jump without OC'ing. I basically will use this tablet for Evernote, Pandora, Browsing, Facebook, XDA, Organizing Pictures, etc.

What do you guys think the life cycle of this device will be? If a newer update for HC comes out do you think that the current hardware may support possible feature adds (example: video editor that google built for HC).

I asked the rep in the store about the internal memory and he said it had 5GB internal and supports up to 32GB. I googled the specs and it says the Nook has 8GB. Which one is it?

Thanks.
[Nook Color General] Atahachi:
NC has 8GB internal but only 5GB are free OOB. non-OC plays games great.
[Nook Color General] Jgrimoldy:
If you can get a discount on a refurb, what do you think you'll be paying? Maybe $150ish? Maybe a bit more? Let's put things in perspective and keep in mind that, though the NC is overdesigned and overpowered as a reader, it's not being sold as an alternative to the Galaxy or (most definitely) the Xoom.

Performance-wise, it holds up well against the Galaxy. The screen is better. It boots a heck of a lot faster. It's likely not going to fare as well against the Xoom. But it's a fraction of the price.

For the price and for the joy of tinkering and pushing the limits, the NC is, far and away, the best value you can get *now* -- it's even better if you can get a substantial discount. Just know that it will be outperformed by several other tablets in the coming months. I doubt there will be anything competitive, at this price level, any time soon.

Make the jump now. Come on in, the water's fine.
[Nook Color General] gqstatus0685:
Yeah I'm not too worried about it competing against dual core and camera equipped tablets. I have an Evo 4G so I don't need to have those features. I just want to know the possibility to get HC running efficiently.

I think a refurbished unit should run me below $200 so it isn't too bad. Just wanted to know what you guys think of the dev community on this Nook being that so many others are coming out.
[Nook Color General] Wile-E-Coyote:
I was in a similar boat and dove right into the Nook. It's only been a few days and I'm happy I did it.

Xoom is $550 more since you don't want a contract. I debated on going with a larger tablet such as the iPad or a 10.1 inch android. Ultimately, I found that they were too large and heavy for real, everyday use. I like being able to use the Nook with one hand.

FYI, I'm using mine to take handwritten notes (using a stylus), reading pdfs, websurfing and the occasional game.
[Nook Color General] liqn7:
I'm in a similar boat and had 2 quick questions:

1) Hows video playback with your typical 700mb avi file with apps like vplayer or rockplayer? Has froyo or cm7 improved things?

2) What app were people using to take notes with a stylus and how well does it work?

Cheers :)
[Nook Color General] Wile-E-Coyote:
1) I haven't avi files - I've been using m4v files with 1300 video bitrate and 128 bit audio on Act 1. It's been a great success so far.

2) I've been using HandMemoWritter. It's free and other programs have problems losing data when you change orientation (genial writing and apMemo). HMW is a bit basic, but it works well.
[Nook Color General] gqstatus0685:
Thanks Wile E Coyote.

I think I may pull the trigger on this. I have to check out the dev section for HC to see how far they have progressed.

The good thing is that the GPU is the same one they use in the Droid X.
[Nook Color General] muzzy996:
Briefly tried vPlayer and Rockplayer and wasn't satisfied with performance. Stock video player plays H.264 encoded MP4's well as long as they conform to the resolution specs of the device (854 pixel width). I've setup a default profile for my Nook Color in Handbrake and my bluray rips to 854 pixel width H.264 videos are amazing on the nook.

I don't have much experience with android devices yet, have had the nook for 3 weeks now, but IMO for video playback nothing beats VLC on a jailbroken iOS device for the shear ability to drag and drop things onto the device and play them back with nearly complete disregard for the format they're in.

3 weeks ago I was still hoping for news on iPad 2, and wishing for a Motorola Xoom. Xoom pricing was leaked and I jumped ship for a Nook Color instead. No regrets, as at this price point I could easily give this thing away to my wife or son and get a better tablet down the road without worrying about the price I paid for it.

It's fun to drop bootable images to micro SD cards and try out different operating systems too. Once all the kinks are worked out for Froyo or HC i'll surely change the primary boot system on mine. Developers working on nook color mods are fantastic, huge props to them!
[Nook Color General] Wile-E-Coyote:
iPad2 is supposed to be announced on March 3, according to All Things Digital.

I feel so dirty.
[Nook Color General] gqstatus0685:
Honestly I don't see the iPad 2 as being anything special. They'll most likely add a FFC and Rear camera and more ram.

The price is going to go up if they add a retina display.
[Nook Color General] BrianDigital:
the nook color rooted and such will be the casual mans tablet. For mobile use as a notepad its great. Lightweight easy to hold and use. Also for it being the size it is you can hold in two hands and type with out over-reaching(i am a big guy so YMMV but my long fingers...)

for gaming it works pretty well. I did get my copy of nova over on it and it works pretty well. but some games will not work not sure if its the screen size but some just fc
[Nook Color General] Tweakrr:
The video playback is pretty good for me. I run Slingplayer and PlayOn for Netflix/Hulu stuff and it is good enough. The CM7 build as it is today doesn't have hardware video support yet, so the Nookie Froyo (currently at 0.6.8) is a better option for video support. The stock nook 1.0.1 or 1.1 rooted also works pretty smoothly with video. So in short, Nooted or Nookie Froyo are the best daily driver options today, although I'm sure CM7 will be the next great thing when it gets to a more robust version.
[Nook Color General] altimax98:
Not to mention honeycomb :-)

Sent from one of those missing Droids
[Nook Color General] luigi90210:
well right at this very moment if you want a semi stable hack to make your nook a HC tablet i suggest you get a nook but if you want something thats 100% stable and something that will work out of the box with no hackery involved i suggest you get a moto xoom

i own a nook color and i have no regrets about buying it, and i feel it has been the best thing i bought this year but it does require some work to make it a tablet(not much but its extra work none the less)
[Nook Color General] skeeterpro:
Watched an avi of "Saving Private Ryan" on the NC and ran beautifully. Earphone to listen but all in all it ran well.
[Nook Color General] liqn7:
Can I ask what size and resolution the movie was formatted in, what app you were using and which ROM you're on?

Just that there are contrasting reports regarding video playback.

This is the only thing stopping me from getting one at the moment, as the Archos 101 is awesome in terms of movie playback (including live live streaming over your Wifi network from my PC).

Would love to hear people's feedback. :)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xnoctis93:
hi: So my friend gave me a pair of dr dre beats(tour) earbuds. I plugged them in and everything sounds fine on the phone, but I realized today that when I wiggle the wire near where it goes inside the jack, my music stops. As if my phone thinks the headphone has disconnected. So for example, with double twist, if the wire moves, the song pauses, and I have to press the play button again. I tried a friends Seinheiser headphones, and when I wiggled them, there were no problems. What should I do?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crystalhand:
If the head phone connector is gold and appears to be wearing off it just means that thee signal is not making it to the headphones. Gold plated connectors is a way to make a cheap cord better but once the gold wears off the signal strength weakens. I have some really nice dj quality headphones that sound amazing but it can be hit or miss bc the gold is going
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
just make sure its pushed all the way in.

some headphone jacks are cheap and just dont sit right.

just feel for the click.

if everything is fine there, wiggle just the wire part.

ive had many headphone extention cables break internally and they cut out.

if no other headphones do it, id assume its the headphones,

btw why did your freind give them to you? theyre expensive,,,
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xnoctis93:
it's probably not the jack afterall... i put ipod buds in my captivate and the sound played fine...probably the dre earphones since when i plugged them into a mac nearby and i went to listen to a youtube vid after twisting the wire tip around the sound was lost. thnks anyways
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] michaeldizzowns:
i have the same problem when i plug into the an audio jack from my car stereo.

when i plug it in the right side normally goes out. takes some wiggling of the wire to get sound to both sides.

my friend has the same problem so i think that maybe the jack on the phone is cheap. who knows. maybe ill try another cord.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgtagem:
Hello everyone,

Im an IT guy for the company i work for and my boss the exchange admin is looking at some software to secure android phones. (Rooted ones) He found this software called (air-watch). i cannot post the link in here becasue im too new lol. i can email it if google does not work. Can someone smarter them me take a look and see if this means the end for all of us with rooted phones in the company. Im not sure how rooting phones affects how they are seen from exchange but i love my Roms and wifi teather
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgtagem:
software can be found at http://www.air-watch.com/platforms/android/index.html click on android on the top
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgtagem:
anyone? help pls.... im worried now haha
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayenoh:
dont worry about it

I'm familiar with the company and right now they don't have a way to detect rooted phones.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgtagem:
nice. so how does the software work? there is no good info on the website and you are the 1st person ive talked to that has herd of it
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mistere372002:
Its a way for the company you are working for that supplied your android based phone to control the content and how it operates. It is basically security software. This will not effect your personal phone. Just your company supplied phone.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgtagem:
So if my phone is rooted right now will this software prevent me from connecting to exchange or will it just force me to use things like a screen lock pin code? I dont mind locking my phone with a password like my old blackberry i just dont want to lose root rights one my phone. free wifi teather overclocking ect is sooo nice
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lyphen:
From the sounds of it, you don't own your phone anyway.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgtagem:
I own the phone the company took my plan over to save me some cash. But use it for exchange email so... I will be affected. Thanks for the input everyone

Sent from my Evervolv Droid
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Joshonekenobi:
AirWatch

The company I work for is getting AirWatch as well. I am also one of the admins, so I will be the one setting ups the system. I am interested to see how of if the root is detected on my EVO 3d.

I will post as our pilot goes on.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amryan:
BUMP

Any update on this? Air-watch does detect rooted phones, tested this out.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] macellaio:
From their product page:

Define approved Android operating systems and models....

and

Detect Android devices that have been rooted or un-enrolled from the system.

If they decide to approve only stock ROM's, you're out of luck. Plus they have the ability to do a bunch of other stuff I wouldn't want my company doing on my personal phone like seeing what apps are installed, tracking via GPS, encrypting the SD card, and being able to remotely lock and wipe it. If I were you, I'd think about paying my own wireless bill and telling the company to stuff that product.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelendel:
Alot of companies are doing this and I have to agree with it. Company based info is too sensitive to be trusted to a rooted phone. Mainly with alot of people just installing apps without thinking about the permissions the apps use.

If you want to keep your phone where you have control then take the bill back over and let them issue you a company device.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amryan:
Yes -- All the big companies are doing it... where the sticker comes in is if the device rooted, is the device more at risk than being normal stock rom? More of a policy question at this point.

What muddies the water even more is if manufacturers are allowing the boot loader to be unlocked, then where is the problem with having a rooted phone.

Need to confirm with AW, will have a call with them later next week to determine how they are checking if the device is 'compromised'.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelendel:
Yes a rooted phone is more at risk as it gives all apps the ability to have admin access. With a stock rom no one has admin rights to your phone.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amryan:
You have to grant this access...is it really that much different when you install an app and give it those permissions?

In my eyes no... but there are better ways to protect the data from exfil....
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelendel:
OK but really think about it for a min. It is not that hard to bypass it if a hacker wanted to. That is how the virus apps do it. All then do is wait for the command to pop up and then make the system think you granted it.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Modified_Grays:
Any word on how they detect root and if it can be bypassed?

Airwatch is being deployed at my "friends" company and so far several people have been black-listed from having rooted phones. Supposedly one of them had Super User installed, but there was no prompt from Airwatch saying it wanted root permisions.

How is airwatch detecting that phones have been rooted?

Is is possible to hide the fact that a phone has been rooted? (What I need is a root kit for my rooted phone.)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amryan:
It's checking for certain files, su, superuser. unrooting might be the only option... you can set the agent to poll whenever you want, so it could check every 5 mins.

http://androidforums.com/droid-x-all-things-root/207397-good-enterprise.html

check that link out... same concept... kind of annoying... I would be interested in a VM solution for my evo 3d and just run airwatch from a separate instance (dont think this exists yet)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bronskrat:
My company is about to move to this and I'm rooted on CM10. Wouldn't I be able to still POP or SMTP to email? I guess that would defeat the purpose but I really can't believe this can block me from getting my email, especially given it's still accessible via a browser.

(assuming I don't install the Air Watch app!)

Hacky solution: My company is also blocking POP, SMTP, ActiveSync, and any Outlook rules that autoforward emails outside of the corporate domain. Government clients have less restrictions! So I created a gmail account, added it to my Outlook client, and then made a rule that copies every new email to the gmail inbox. Done. Only issue is that it doesn't seem to sync unless I ask it to which is a big problem.

Of course this puts that gmail on my work client computer's Outlook which is probably a bad idea but hey, it works. I'll leave it until I get freaked out enough to remove it.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amryan:
Fairly certain that is against corp policy, I would check if I were you.... you should check what your AW policy is if they find a device that is rooted...

you could just unroot and keep the root binary on your SD card and boot to recovery and flash when you really need it... haven't had enough time to look into it lately, but rename of the binary did work at one time with AW and it wasn't showing the device as compromised,
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calisro:
Good for Enterprise also "detects" rooted phones bit I've been able to circumvent that. I'm sure AW won't be much more difficult.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] netjetman:
how did you circumvent it?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fintheman:
Currently trying to process different way to crack it and some may prove to be successful. The thing is, Airwatch developers are watching these threads closely in order to close any gaps.

Right now, they check for SU access and the other way they are detecting root is checking certain programs. Oddly enough, APP Quarantine is one of those programs that flag compromised device even when its not rooted. I think with enough research, Airwatch can be cracked and it was shown to have been before - https://www.netspi.com/blog/entryid/192/bypassing-airwatch-root-restriction

I'm wondering if you can make some changes to your device (hide root, hide SUuser) or start compiling a list of programs that get Airwatch flagged. Anyone that have a console access want to start trying to break it? I'll start a bounty of 50.00 personally.