yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Atrix 4G General] Sharkonwheels:
Apples and oranges...

The Streak is 800x480, as are most high-end large sceen Android phones, and the Atrix is pushing 35% more pixels @ 960x540, and STILL getting higher scores...

Plus, add in what others have mentioned that Quadrant is not multi-core capable, and you start to realize how much power is under the hood of this thing!
[Atrix 4G General] ryanthered:
I get between 52-54 fps with Neocore.
[Atrix 4G General] avetny:
????!!!!

I wanna introduce you <<<NEXUS S>>>

and this is only start !
[Atrix 4G General] neer2005:
why does it get a 0 for 3D?
[Atrix 4G General] DarkSi08:
Dude, get over yourself. That's on a friggin' 60% overclock, and it's FAR from the start. Bump the phone up to 1700, and your quadrant scores tank. That's the best anyone will ever see from that phone.

Let's talk once Quadrant runs on both cores, and all of our GPU cores, shall we?

All the same, you're comparing your extremely modified phone vs our stock phones. Are you that worried that your phone isn't top dog anymore?
[Atrix 4G General] neer2005:
damn 60% OC i wanna see the battery life on that thing prob worse than the evo
[Atrix 4G General] avetny:
"you're comparing your extremely modified phone vs our stock"....I DIDN'T "comparing"...it just for u info...+if u think u gonna get super perfom. with 2 cores?- ...2 core never gonna be work on any android device, accept honeycomb.....what about tegra?

http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/foru...arm-cortex-a9/

^^^^^^

I'm sick of hearing people cry omg Tegra2 awesome. NO. It's great, but it's not going to make the Hummingbird obsolete. The Hummingbird has a better GPU. Balance it out and you get unnoticeable performance gains from a Tegra2. Not to mention the Tegra2 phones are coming out with Froyo which simply put doesn't have dual core optimizations, so in the end, it might even be SLOWER than the Nexus S.

What you should be waiting for is the Snapdragon and OMAP dual cores as well as the Orion. But these won't be out for a while, so why not get the Nexus S?

It's either or in this case. Don't choose a Tegra2 phone because it's a Tegra2. Choose it because it is the right phone you want, that will get upgades when you want, and is on the right carrier you want. Get a Tegra2 or a Hummingbird, that's all I have to say. They're about equal.

Just sick of the overpraise that the Tegra2 gets when we already have that power in the Nexus S.

NVIDIA - they went from ARM11 (Tegra 1) to Cortex A9 (Tegra 2), skipping Cortex A8 design altogether. Tegra 2's CPU core will be competitive but its GPU appears to be weaker than even PowerVR SGX540. Heck, even Qualcomm's Adreno 205 may outperform this GPU. On the plus side, Tegra 2 is already available on the market NOW, and smartphones based on Tegra 2 will appear during Q4 of 2010. (Read this article for more details on Tegra 2). Samsung, LG and Motorola have announced their intention of producing phones based on Tegra 2 so far.

Power SGX540 = Hummingbird.

By no means am I saying to not get a Tegra2. All I'm saying is to not avoid the Hummingbird because you think the Tegra2 is that much better or something.

.....................best regards !
[Atrix 4G General] designgears:
go f#$% yourself and your friend...

first run...
[Atrix 4G General] waltah!:
Why not get the Nexus S? Easy. It's a Samsung.
[Atrix 4G General] neer2005:
Dude cant wait till you release that batt icon and how are you taking screenshots lol
[Atrix 4G General] avetny:
plus+ android 2.3.2 !

and in 2-3 days is gonna be 2.3.3 !!!;)
[Atrix 4G General] galaxyjeff:
Why not get a nexus s? Simple, the gps doesn't work! It's plagued with the same antenna issue as the galaxy s phones which means it's a waste of money! That's the reason I dumped my captivate for the iPhone 4. Samsung releases defective products and doesn't do anything to repair them then not only that they release yet another phone after a whole line of them are released and they all have a defective gps. Google should never have chosen them to be the maker of a nexus phone.
[Atrix 4G General] arcticreaver:
how are you guys getting 2500+? i'm on complete stock, no root and get 2368ish all the time!
[Atrix 4G General] designgears:
batt icon was scrapped, the hardware is limiting it to 10% increments...

I use ddms for the screenshots
[Atrix 4G General] 9mmBullet:
The problem with the Nexus S is that the processor will eventually become obsolete in a shorter time-frame than the Atrix, as more software becomes multi-threaded aware.

From what I've read so far Quadrant is currently single threaded so it remains to be seen whether the points increase will be get noticable gains, perhaps double, thanks to the 2nd core. Those Nexus S overclocked scores are impressive, but that is that, overclocked. Try stock clocks for a fairer comparison. Once the bootloader gets cracked (and dev forum indications are that Motorola will release instructions on how to safely do so later in the year, if the community doesn't get there first) then we can start seeing some interesting overclock numbers from the Atrix itself, be sure to save that screenshot for comparison later :)

Gingerbread is planned to come out soon, Samsung already have it running on the SGS2 and I expect Motorola to get cracking on distributing 2.3 onto Atrix and Bionic, if nothing else in their current lineup. And they will, as it's their flagship phones at this moment.

Point is, to have double the score above from the fastest single-core phone, from a single-threaded app at stock clocks is impressive, especially when the software hasn't been optimized (2.2 and Quadrant). The future does look bright for multi-core phones and tablets, and at the bargain price of $149.99 (plus the 2 year contract which would ream you I guess...) why not go ahead and future-proof yourself?
[Atrix 4G General] avetny:
Very good answers! !!! Good luck to you development, hope best.
[Atrix 4G General] simms22:
1. absolutely no gps issue. this isnt a galaxy s

2. i havent had a single issue with my nexus s unless you call unusually high quadrant scores an issue(thats my quad screenshot on the other page). so far my nexus s is #1 in smarchbench rating, #1 in quadrant, #4 in an3dbench, and gets 63.7fps on nenamark. its true that these arent stock numbers(heavily modified) and that my nexus s runs a higher than usual clockspeed. but the nexus s is an awesome phone and theres no need for you to knock it just because you owned a defective captivate. i also own a nexus one, and the s runs circles around it.

that said... id LOVE to get my hands on an atrix and get to hack on it :D
[Atrix 4G General] link12245:
Coming form a captivate, I know these numbers are only because of a flaw in the benchmarks that read higher i/o's on the filesystem when you convert them to ext4. Trust me when I say that your Nexus S couldn't keep up with an atrix in any real world test. I got rid of my captivte (running almost the same setup as you) because it was too laggy even with overclocking/undervolting and ext4. Good try though.
[Atrix 4G General] avetny:
Until u will hack your atrix, its gonna release another better phone... and u want to change the phone with a newer, without seeing the full power of old phone.
[Atrix 4G General] raghavghei:
i have been getting close to 2900 - 3050 on my atrix if i could i would take a screen shot but non of them are compatible yet
[Atrix 4G General] BoostedSR20:
Will it blend? :D

(sorry I'm in a rare mood)
[Atrix 4G General] humancyborg:
Disagree completely. I have both phones here in relatively stock form and the difference in general performance is either negligible or non existant. Remember the Atrix is moving many more pixels.

I could record some side by side random behavior if it is helpful to anyone.
[Atrix 4G General] avetny:
""""Disagree completely. I have both phones here in relatively stock form and the difference in general performance is either negligible or non existant. Remember the Atrix is moving many more pixels.""""

I could record some side by side random behavior if it is helpful to anyone.

__________________

Humancyborg +1
[Atrix 4G General] SNadler:
Sorry to have to ask but how do you run this test?
[Atrix 4G General] humancyborg:
Here is some quick video of the Atrix and Nexus S running side by side taken from my iPhone 4. Not sure why it is rotated like this but anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3BJ2vKpGM
[Atrix 4G General] avetny:
Thank you! very true video....
[Atrix 4G General] DannyV94:
First post, and would like to say, scored a 2414 quadrant on my Atrix with it underclocked at 816mHz. Normal is between 2700-3200. About 54fps on neocore. Dont know if that says anything, but yeah, lol. :D
[Atrix 4G General] getabetterpic:
I ran it once and got 54.4. I am getting mid-2000 Quadrant scores as well.

Yes. Especially with LauncherPRO. I tried a few launchers, but with LauncherPRO, there is absolutely no lag switching screens or scrolling the drawer. It is literally smoother than my old iPhone 3GS. Enjoying it so far. Can't wait to see what the devs do with this phone, if some of them will stick with it and quit switching to the HTC Inspire.
[Atrix 4G General] Clienterror:
Also, if something is syncing in the background the nexus s will lag due to needing to share CPU cycles where as the atrix won't stutter because the second CPU is taking care of it.
[Atrix 4G General] masterkan8:
heres mine stock settings 3093
[Liquid S100 Android Development] jul644:
**First off this is completely Dario93 from modaco's

(hes going to post an updated version this week or so and ill update this thread when he dose)

I'm posting this becuase i was frustrated with all the other roms and the acer stream skin

This is nice simple and works right away.

Camera works and video recorder (led lights do not/proximity sensor)

280 mb or ram free (liquid e)

Screens:

(coming soon, but it uses launcher pro)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jc8081:
I really don't need or use it i dont need weather facebook or twitter updates does turning it off help battery a lot does anyone know?

And is there a way to still access the market is don't like enabling it to use it bc i forget to turn it back off and there's no toggle widgets for it.. thanks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacoballen22:
Idk about a lot of bg data but it will save some at least. What do you mean about the market? Could you explain more?

Swyped from my sexy EVO.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tina333:
The market requires background data to varify services etc... for the apps you mentioned just disable auto-sync. Also keep display brightness low, wifi and Bluetooth off when not in use, check all app settings to ensure they aren't running automatically or frequently updating and also turn vibrate/haptic feedback off if possible. :-)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacoballen22:
Yahoo mail doesn't like me when I disable background data -_- how do I take care of that?

Swyped from my sexy EVO.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tina333:
Find a different app to access yahoo :-)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacoballen22:
Any suggestions? Lol

Swyped from my sexy EVO.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heyitstval:
Yahoo! Mail and the Market do require background data. Market I understand. Yahoo! Mail, not so much.

In any case, you can use the built-in E-mail app to get to Yahoo! (not Gmail, sometimes labeled "Corporate Email", it's the little envelope with the gold stamp coming out)

Check this thread from earlier today for the settings:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=962674
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jgalan14:
Background does save a lot battery but I use the market and some other apps a lot , so I just leave it on, one thing that can save you a battery is using WiFi , like if you at home and you have WiFi use WiFi instead it will help , and the mail app (blue envelope for HTC sense ) let you set up yahoo, is not push but you can set up how often you want it check and it does appear read when you check online
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacoballen22:
This didn't work when I first got my phone but it works now? How did you do this magic trick!?

Swyped from my sexy EVO.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] life64x:
Try k9 from market. It is a heck of a email program and free. I removed gmail and yahoo email along with mail.apk. If handles all my general email in a tight package. And to disable background update will save battery life since 3G does not Ned to ba abler.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weidnerj:
Yes it does save lots of your battery! Just turn off ALL internet access. Your phone will go for days and days without needing a charge.

(Home menu with free space for an additional icon) Menu Button -> + Add to Home -> Widget -> Settings -> Mobile Network.

When you are not using the phone anything other than phone calls, turn off the Mobile network. All background updates like weather, e-mail, etc will stop until you turn them back on.

(Home menu with free space for an additional icon) Menu Button -> + Add to Home -> Widget -> Settings -> Sync All

This is great to manually turn on the Internet and have the phone sync up all the services then turn off the mobile network.
[Android Software Development] Staticpunk84:
So I want to start making my own Roms and all that good stuff I did find the tut vid from the theunlockr.com site but is there anything else I should do or get cause I would really like to start making my own Roms and just need some advice on all this...thanks friends..

aw crap for got to put need help lol damn it
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rivlocs83:
Does anybody know if there's a WIMAX for Cyanogenmod 7 and if so were can I download it. I have wimax for cm6 but its an alpha update and wont work for cm6. Using Evo 4G thanx guys
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] spiicytuna:
Here ya go: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=902051

It should be in the nightlies in the near future.

Cheers!
[Adam General] clockcycle:
Been looking into getting a Data only Plan for the Adam.

In searching the web, I have come to the pages talking about Pre Paid AT&T GoPhone data only plans for $20 unlimited that Iphone and other's abused and was discontinued..

Mentions have been getting data only plans from AT&T.

Looking at their plans, they have a 200mb and a 2gb plan avaiable, but are more costly and very limiting.

Anyone know if GoPhones SIMs are locked to the phones, or can it be transfered to another device, like the Adam? Would be nice to get a Pay as you go plan..

Anyone have any other options?

-CC
[Adam General] BritCrit:
I am on the same boat. That said, I find tethering on tmobile works rather well.
[Adam General] clockcycle:
Comcast 3G / 4G Internet 2go?

http://www.comcast.com/Corporate/Learn/xfinity/4g-wireless-internet-plans-pricing.html

Anyone have this?
[Adam General] holyking:
i think you have to be within the 30 feet from your router to use this
[Adam General] clockcycle:
Yes it is a device you can carry with your like the Verizon Mifi and the Sprint Overdrive. So it could essentially be in your pocket or bag, even velcro'd to the tablet ;)

I am considering such a device but worried about coverage, costs and contracts..

-CC
[Adam General] BritCrit:
Just posted the details in new thread, regarding newly announced tablet plans from AT&T. These are separate from the iPad tablet plans.
[Adam General] clockcycle:
Awesome news BritCrit, thanks for sharing!

-CC

EDIT: Good news is that AT&T also includes WiFi Hotspot access. Where can these be found, McDonalds, Barnes & Noble?
[Adam General] BritCrit:
FYI if you have uverse or dsl you should have access to att wifi with you account login.
[Adam General] clockcycle:
Anyone check out either Simple Mobile and or H2O?

both are GSM networks, prepaid. Simple Mobile uses the Tmobile Network and has unlimited plans, H2O is on AT&T but not unlimited as of yet...

-CC
[General Questions and Answers] zmatic:
Hey, I have 3 problems that are sorta big.

Specs:

Motorola Droid.

Rooted

ROM: ChevyNo1 - Simply Stunning 5.00

Version 2.3.2

I don't know where I am going wrong. I am trying to use Android Commander, Droid Explorer and, APK Edit

None of them work, and the problem I think is all not detecting my device. This is what I have done:

1) Enabled Debugging on Phone

2) Installed Java/SDK Manager

3) Installed Moto Drivers (and updated)

4) Connected phone via USB Cable (Of Course)

5) Restarted Phone

6) Restarted Computer

And still won't find my phone, I think that's all I did, I just want to be able to change my icons. Safely

Which leads me to my next problem, I thought 4 hours ago, that all I had to do to change an icon, was copy the apk zip file to the sd card, change it in photoshop, then copy and paste over the old apk file/zip. So I did that.. with my browser app... I read that the problem is probably a signature not written, is that it? I'm thankful I only did that to my browser app, but is there any way i can restore my browser app? It won't run: "Could not launch the requested activity."

And 3rd, When ever my phone boots up, the Motorolla boot logo loops. Then If I hold down the power button till the Boot animation comes on (which is not the red eye, but was changed by default on my rom) and then the boot animation even loops twice then works "normally") How do I fix this?

Plus, I am looking for suggestions for a really good rom, free or not (through Rom Manager since that is the only way I have done it (I got root through SuperOneClick or something like that) because I have been flashing one after another until I did a hard reset and just settled with what I have now.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ceo.mtcl:
My Atrix does not have allow unknows sources so I cant install apps which are not from market. How do I fix it?

UPDATE: Got it fixed. I need to root it because it is ATT phone...

detailed instructions are here: http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kgeissler:
You need to root your phone first. Have you done that?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ceo.mtcl:
Yes I have rooted my phones in past, all of them. I never knew that I need to rrot them first to Allow unknown sources! I think this option was enabled by default in my nexus one and nexus S. Please correct me if I am wrong.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Noodles5666:
AT&T blocks that on their phones, so you need to root to enable
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fixter:
At&t puts that block on your phone. :P Only at&t.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ceo.mtcl:
That blows! After owing Nexus one and Nexus S, i think I was spoiled! lol.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Axotla:
In AT&T Atrix?

In AT&T there is no "Unknown Sources"

please, use AC_SWM.exe from androidcentral.com to do it!

My best Regards Friends!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FtaWolf:
here this help..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=972760
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weslxa:
I had the same problem with my Atrix. I just rooted last week using SuperOneClick and I've been trying to figure out why everything still seemed to be blocked. I just found Gladiatrix, which worked great! It enabled sideloading (gives you that extra check box in settings>applications to allow unknown sources), and also gives you the option to install the tethering package crack. Enjoy...

Gladiatrix
[General Questions and Answers] dougger22:
Froyo 2.2 Fixed Exchange Problem Fixed!!!!

In short, have actually found the problem after months of testing and changing things we found that the Servers that have Exchange on them needed to have PRT Records turned on by our Server Administrators. Once they turned this on or enabled it everything worked like is suppose to.
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
Okay, so I had a very bone stock DI18 straight from Sprint TODAY, and I used the EB13 update.zip from the webpage.

I am getting

33kbps download

245kbps upload

Someone please post results making this thread useless. Thank you.
[Epic 4G General] shook187:
Is this 3g speed? Trying updating your profile!!
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
Updated Profile, ran speedtest again:

28Kbps download

220 kbps upload

My god, is this really true?
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
My 3G speeds are not any better.
[Epic 4G General] Kawinma:
Last two tests:

268 down, 370 up

259 down, 282 up
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
This is not good, I bet others are having the same problem regarding the modem update. This is gonna turn out bad. Other people who have not D/L speedtest from the market please do so, and give us your results. This will give us a good census of if this modem is completely f-ed for us in the states, and not Korea.
[Epic 4G General] AmericanJedi001:
Did you pick the nearest server? Obvious, I know, but I just want to cover all the bases.

617 kbps down, 507 kbps up for me.
[Epic 4G General] *AndroidMaster*:
Mines are not that bad at all...!!! :)
[Epic 4G General] gikthechamp:
3g:

435 d / 515 u

187 d / 96 u

4g:

4801 d / 987 u

3616 d / 958 u
[Epic 4G General] JudasD:
I just got 700KB down and 400KB up. This was on my second closest server. When i used the closest server i only got 99KB down and 60KB up. Try a different server.

JD
[Epic 4G General] mc-fine:
1367 down 642 up. Its not a EB13 issue.
[Epic 4G General] tmspyder:
hmm.. I'm getting only 256k down on 3g but over 7mbps on 4g atm...

my 3g used to be around 3mbps give or take.. I'll not write anything into it untill i can test it again tomorrow. might be a network issue
[Epic 4G General] keeepinitgansta:
on 3g After eb13

.28 mbps down

.15 mbps up

before eb13 update,

1.56 mbps down

.75mbps up

On 4g after eb13

2.36mbps down

1.10mbps up

before eb13

7.35 mbps down

1.25 mbps up
[Epic 4G General] ryno502:
136 down 308 up
[Epic 4G General] shook187:
My speed sucks too, but they always did on 3g. Thank god for 4g!!!
[Epic 4G General] DiGi760:
Mine are really inconsistent, but here's my 3g.

1039/435

672/706

1091/274

940/563

554/506

Is there a way to pick a different server with this app?
[Epic 4G General] computerkid23:
my test

hey wassup guys here are my results

1353:dwn

462:up

test 1

1002:dwn

up:212

test 2

hope this helps fellas
[Epic 4G General] poit:
This info is useless without knowing how many bars of signal you have. Low signal = slow speeds
[Epic 4G General] SubnetMask:
764 down, 642 up. 4g wasn't much better, but I wsas surprised it even connected at home (never had before). Not sure how accurate the app is tho... the instant results where all over the place with 4g speed bursting over 3Mbps for a fraction of a second.

Edit: 1 bar 4g, 2-4 bars 3g.

Edit 2: somethings definately not right... kinda doubt its the modem. I ran the test on wifi, and the best I got as 6433Kbps down & 1514Kbps up... I have 12x1.5 uverse and a test on my laptop yielded 10Mbps/1.5Mbps off the same server.
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
Please disregard this Verizon "can you hear me now?" interruption and keep posting. We have mixed results. Run speedtest guys without 4g!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MoreJuan87:
I'm currently running the desire hd Rom on my hd2. It's CMYLXGO's Desire HD NAND. I liked it, but now it seems sluggish and unstable. It freezes a lot and runs very slow. Any ideas on a better ROM with the Sense feature? It would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] akapaul26:
IMO CMYLXGO's roms are the best, sorry really can't speak for any others...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Kailkti:
If you want a fast sense rom, go with desire builds or desire z builds. Both are faster but desire is fastest of them all, comparable to even the speed of non sense builds.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MoreJuan87:
Thanks to you both, I do like the desire builds, I'll try some z builds.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Dan9I:
RAFDROID HD best ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Mafioso:
dude, there is certainly something wrong with you're installation...CMYLXGO's builds are one of the smoothest build w/ full desire HD Sense