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[Epic 4G General] carnivalrejectq:
Yea its a pain in the ass because of what it considers low light. I live in an old house so evenwith the lights on where I can see everything with my eyes the camera decides that its low ligt. So basically to have reg freamerates I have to be in a warehouse or outside in the sun? This is not acceptable lol. I like to take videos out and about at night and at concerts wich is usually dark.....as well as at m home of my daughter and now I can't. Hopefully your right and it meanss someone can go in there and change it back.
[Epic 4G General] viperacr99:
My camera is blurry as well. I turned the exposure setting down a little and it got a lot smoother, but darker image.

Sent from an Epic failure of a phone.
[Epic 4G General] carnivalrejectq:
Another thing I've been noticing is some kind of bad audio sync. Sometimes when I go to play back a video here is no audio until it hears somehting loud enough to start recording (I'm assuming) and then there's a loud popping sound and then all of a sudden that video will have audio. I tested it out tto see if I make a loud sound when I first recorfding if it will immediatley play the audio in playback and it does without the popping sound. So apprently there are audio input limits too. Very annoying . My tv was loud enough to be recorded but it wasn't picking up until I actually said something in the video.
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
i got it too. i hope someone comes out with a fix.
[Epic 4G General] edscheenstra:
Agreed. On eclair I noticed in low light a smooth panning but grainy image. Now with froyo its a better quality image but blurry as hell when panning. Basically like you would turn down the iso on your dslr. Better quality when you have the light...when you don't have the light well it blows. Now if we only had more adjustable options built in to the camera....
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
Anyone else notice the update firmware option from within menu while in camera?? Mine just errors out, anyone else try it?
[Epic 4G General] incisivekeith:
I can confirm that the part of the video shot in low light is laggy. I have flashed the update.zip forEB13 from Samsung by Odining to DI18 stock first.
[Epic 4G General] adelmundo:
Camera lags in low light. I also take a lot of videos of my friends who are club DJ's and in low light, the videos are smooth. Now when I test low light videos, it is laggy. I liked the Eclair's low light settings for video better and would rather go back to that.
[Epic 4G General] badasscat:
"Blurry" is not the issue. That's probably why some people say they don't have it.

This is lag. And it's bad. Not acceptable at all.

But the video is perfectly clear, not blurry. Just very, very laggy in low light. Makes the video camera pretty much useless unless you're shooting in daylight.
[Epic 4G General] bobdude5:
this did not happen in dk28..wth samsung >/
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
I would like to meet samsung's "testers" I mean seriously, FROYO came out before the phone launched......what in the hell have they been doing since AUGUST?? Why do we have to sacrifice perfectly working hardware for an OS update?

It's rather difficult to believe that each phone is completely unique....they use the same components!

I cannot wait for google to implement standards....it cannot come soon enough. I really hate to go towards an 'apple' model of 'everyone has the same hardware', but samsung has illustrated some serious flaws with the current android/manufacturer relationship. There is no reason we should be over a version behind on an OS for a product that is supposed to be the latest and greatest, as well as 'update-able'.

I mean, it would be one thing if we actually had an Epic 2 with GB drop, but we don't even have that option. Samsung needs to get new devs, or sub it out already. They can't remain competitive if they keep the current business model up.

I have a feeling the android/epic community will have a solution for the 'quirks' months before samsung even hints at it.

Samsung's new motto "Because you suck, and we hate you"
[Epic 4G General] AndroidIsEpic:
Wow now I'm starting to regret switching from dk28..considering I use the camcorder on this phone for everything and now it's pretty much unusable in most situations.
[Epic 4G General] diego1985:
Oh this is really depressing. I compared this to my super bowl party video I took with dk28. And that vid killed the vid I took on eb 13 froyo.

I hate "Top Flight Security Mods"
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
To bad development is going to stop on dk28 or I'd go back. Well maybe not.

Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
[Epic 4G General] kryptoniteman:
I see acouple of camera threads popping up, Mods can we sticky this one till the problems get resolve and have everyone put their camera problems in it so that we don't have mutliple camera threads?
[Epic 4G General] djteqneek:
I had the exact same issue with the blurry camcorder. I found this fix in a different forum and it worked out for me perfectly, so try this and see if it works.

"As suspected, there is something with the sd card. I confirmed this by putting in a different card. the camera, gallery and music player worked.

So to fix, I mounted my phone, and copied the contents of my sd card to a folder on the pc.

Then, unmounted the phone and reformatted the sd card. Menu - Settings -> SD Card and phone storage -> format SD card

I then confirmed that the camera worked.

Then I mounted to the PC and replaced all the content that I had stored to the PC folder. I did not overwrite the folders that were quickly created on the phone.

The camera works, the music player works, and teh gallery shows all my old photos.

I had moved one app to the sd card as a test. It does not work! So i'd suggest not having any apps on the sd card before you do this."
[Epic 4G General] kryptoniteman:
Thanks dj will try this when I get home tonight.
[Epic 4G General] Basboy:
Sounds like in order to have the video record properly I can't move any apps to the sd card then? Or do you mean that any apps moved to the sd card will no longer work once the data is copied back on?
[Epic 4G General] AndroidIsEpic:
That old fix unfortunately does not work with the eb13 low light camera bug.
[Epic 4G General] Aneirin:
When going through the settings for the camera there is now a firmware section. When you check the firmware it says there is an update but when I try to update it says Service unavailable.
[Epic 4G General] -javier-:
same here i just tried it and no service..
[Epic 4G General] kryptoniteman:
Did DK28 have the same lag issue in low light?
[Epic 4G General] nikeairj:
No, DK28 was perfectly smooth in low light conditions. Now, I'm afraid to upgrade to EB13...
[Epic 4G General] spart39:
I'm having the same issues on TrulyEpicRom 1.5 which is based on DK28, so maybe there is a common tweak in both that messed up the camera?
[Epic 4G General] Quis89:
How might I replicate the checkerboard thing in the browser. My iPad does the checkerboard thing by simply scrolling. I went to the full nfl site and couldn't get it to do it. Pinch to zoom, tap to zoom and scrolling all didn't produce it. I'm using dolphin if that makes a difference.
[Epic 4G General] badasscat:
Well it's only a matter of time before somebody puts out a custom rom with the old camcorder app in it.

But it's clearly just a software tweak that's changing light sensitivity on the fly and sapping CPU cycles in the process. Somebody else suggested that just wiping the SD card and reformatting it helped, but I don't really believe that, although I am trying it right now. I will be very surprised if it does anything, though, because the camera lags even when it's not recording. And there's no reason the storage on the card would suddenly get faster in bright light.

I don't understand why Samsung even touched this app, though. It was fine before. They have so many other bugs, some of which still haven't been fixed, and they went and screwed up one of their perfectly good apps.

I've worked with software engineers plenty of times and this strikes me as the kind of thing someone who had a spare half hour at the end of one day said "you know, I don't like this thing's low light performance so let me just slip this quick fix in" and now here it is, with no testing or anything.
[Epic 4G General] bomix:
At first reading this thread i thought Hhaha BS>>!

I have the same problem.. :mad: so irratating.. I want this fixed now..

I Depend on my camera.. I'm seriously thinking about flashing back to 2.1 unless there is a quick fix.
[Epic 4G General] badasscat:
Here's a quick workaround that might make things better for some (though it's not a fix):

1) Start camcorder app, open camcorder settings

2) Check the box that says "Outdoor visibility" (even if you are shooting indoors)

3) Return to app, change exposure value to -2.0 (all the way down)

At this point, you will have an image that's similar to what the camera would have done in low light with DK28 or DI18, and with a lot less lag than you started with. (Though there's still some, but not nearly as bad.)

I don't know what "outdoor visibility" really does but the effect it has is just to brighten low-light situations. So you're increasing brightness and then lowering the exposure, and in the end you're almost back where you started brightness-wise. But it's the higher exposure value that seems to create the lag.
[Epic 4G General] R0YB0T:
blurry in anything but very well lit conditions, even with the flash.

After manually installing the update from Samsungs site my epic is now very blurry and records low fps in anything but very well lit conditions even with the flash on. I had no problems taking high FPS 720p video in even extremely low light conditions with or without the flash on befre the update. It now looks like a cheap camera phone from years ago in low light.

Anyone having this issue after doing the OTA update? Again I did it manually.
[Epic 4G General] R0YB0T:
I tried this and it did not resolve the issue. I am pretty sure that "Outdoor Viibility" just sets the screen brightness to max within the camera apps so you can see it better in bright light and so it doesn't affect the brightness of the phone outside of the camera app.
[Epic 4G General] Toast95135:
It bumps up the gain so it'll make the images a lot more grainy.
[Epic 4G General] boominz28:
are you guys talking like a motion blur when you move the camera?
[Epic 4G General] R0YB0T:
Are you talking about the Exposure setting?

If you mean the "Outdoor Visibility" function, when you press on the word instead of the check to enable/disable it, it gives you a description that says "Enhances LCD Visibility outdoors" and you can visibly see it make turn the screen brightness to max unless you have your screen brightness set to max already.

Yes. It looks very blurry, low FPS, choppy.
[Epic 4G General] boominz28:
I dont remember what mine was like before because I didnt take very many low light vids, so I have nothing to compare, but it does seem choppy a bit.

but im not having any other issue other then that , if you can call that an issue
[Epic 4G General] R0YB0T:
I might flash it back to stock to test it. I do have multiple videos in extremely dark settings that run fine prior to the 2.2 update. I also recorded a few after the update and they look like two different phones.

Epic on 2.1 stock records video great in all light conditions.

Epic on 2.2 stock records video great in bright settings but extremely poorly in medium to low light settings.

Just flashed it back to 2.1, the difference is huge and this is a major bug. I might upload some videos to youtube to show the difference.
[Epic 4G General] Systom:
A good way to test this on 2.2 is to record in bright lights and then record say under a table or wherever there's not much light, you'll see the frame rate of the video drop dramatically in area's that's not well lit...this was not a problem in 2.1 as I was recording night time video's on new years which were all smooth without this problem.
[Epic 4G General] R0YB0T:
This is is exactly how to test this.

I want to add that I just noticed that all of my videos recorded while my phone was 2.2 are in MP4 format instead of 3GP. That may have something to do with it.
[Epic 4G General] nicholishen:
Check out my Qik video http://qik.ly/HJkZE

Is this everyone's typical camera response?
[Epic 4G General] bjhill2112:
Yup - that's it.

You should tweet it @SamsungJohn
[Epic 4G General] carnivalrejectq:
I'm pretty sure 2.1 was mp4 tooo. Man I hope they fix this. The camera was so awesome on 2.1 and we've been ating forever for 2.2 and besides that I love 2.2 so what the frick
[Epic 4G General] -javier-:
has anyone reported this to samsung

?
[Epic 4G General] MikeEx:
This isn't exclusive to EB13; I've had this problem with DK28. Bonsai 2.0.1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YruXJ37qAxY#t=3m4s

Audio is really loud for some reason. You might want to mute it
[Epic 4G General] nikeairj:
Yeah, I'm having the same problem after upgrading from BonsaiROM 1.1.4 to 2.0.1. It's a great ROM, but I'm thinking about switching to a different ROM just because of the camera lag.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11582420&postcount=4496
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
Switching to another ROM will not help unless it is an Eclair ROM. The camera bug is in all current Froyo builds for the Epic.
[Epic 4G General] abduljaffar:
ok. Comfirmed. Odin back eclair.

Eclair Camera = 100% low light usability

Froyo Camera = 10% low light usability

Comfirmed. We DO have the Evo curse.
[Epic 4G General] badasscat:
I did not experience it on the leaked Froyo ROM that I downloaded from Google.
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
Yep, side by side it's a night and day difference. My wifes Epic is still running dk18 stock and both the camera and video camera have superior quality to mine running stock EB13. I think Samsung was lazy and used the same Camera apk from Eclair in Froyo, but with crap drivers.
[Epic 4G General] abduljaffar:
Can u please reflash and comfirm it? Everyone saying its on all froyo leaks.
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
You may not have noticed it, but there were complaints about this issue in dk28.
[Epic 4G General] carrera997:
DK28, Midnight ROM 3.3 - Great video in all light conditions.

I flashed the Genocide 1.2 GHZ EB13 kernel to the same setup (DK28, Midnight 3.3) and the video went to hell (lagging) in low light conditions. I noticed it right away.

Flashed to stock EB13, Midnight 3.3 and the video is still lagging in low light.

I am very sure that the 1.3 kernel caused the low light lagging.

FYI - best setup (for me), performance + video = DK28 + Midnight 3.3. Going to flash back if this isn't fixed in the next day or two

This issue definitely did not exist with DK28 on my EPIC
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zorachus:
I read rumors about this new next generation HTC phone code named "Pyramid" said to be built for Android. Will be running the next gen Snapdragon cpu = dual core 1.2ghz...1gb RAM...1gb Memory...newer 4.3" screen tech.

It is said to be coming to T-Mobile this May, but sure sounds like it could be the EVO2 ?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
It's supposed to be a GSM device, so no Sprint. I don't doubt that the EVO2 will have similar specs though.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zorachus:
Hmm...so if the "Pyramid" isn't the base outline for the EVO2, I wonder what HTC has planned for the most powerful Android device for 2011 ?

Maybe the EVO2 is also delayed to September like the iPhone5.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fixxxer2008:
as of now there is no evo2, just rumors we here created.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zorachus:
Well same as the iPhone5, but we all know it is coming. Actually the iPhone5 was just delayed to September, and Apple never even announced it yet. But the big websites are pretty strong on this rumor.

Would be insanely dumb of Sprint, not to release a follow up to the EVO. Every popular phone gets a sequel a year later. The iPhone does every 12 months. The Nexus does every 12 months. The Droid series does every 12 months.

So I wood be shocked not to see an EVO2 this summer.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] novanosis85:
HTC sabor.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jgalan14:
Yes every 12 months and the nexus never had a nexus 2( nexus s was make by sansumg and came out before the 12 month cycle ) the droid inc the same way is the first time it will get a updgrade and about the iphone who knows but seriously if they make good phones (like video consoles ps3 and 360) they will last more then a year, technology evolves every year (months, weeks, days& hours) but you don't see sony coming out with another device every year (and video consoles cost the same as phones off contract) so im guessing they are going to release a phone in june,sprint been trying to battle the iphone for years now (samsung instinct, samsung instinc hd, palm pre and the Evo ) but as far as hardware goes the Evo came out 5-6 months after the first 1gz superdragon proccessor (nexus one ) and it looks like HTC doesn't have a dual core processor. yes the next phone is going to be faster but it wont wow you as much, I think apple takes an iphone out just to.compete as well(I had them too) like the first iphone (not 3G) next year was the iphone 3G(finally 3G on the famous phone ) and then the3GS faster for sure and the iphone 4 new design and multitasking, so yeah delaying the phone should help for consumer instead of screwing our money which so far that's how it looks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zorachus:
The Sabor is an outdated reference, running 2.5 ? Single core 2ghz ? Release end of 10' ?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 4redstars:
i just want a higher density screen and I'm good.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AngelofChaos:
not only is the "Sabor" an outdated reference, but the website that released that info had been known to releasing information that wasn't credible in the past, and it was later debunked as false information.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jgalan14:
Get lcd density from the market , but I hear you I hope we get the desire hd update with the same density :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zorachus:
Actually smart phones are more like video cards for PC Gamers than consoles.

ATI and nVidia, come out with high end $299-$600 video cards every year. Some years they release major next gen performance tech, and other years just a minor refresh. But every year like clockwork there is a new card out by each manufacturer. That is how I see high end phones like iPhone...Nexus...Droid...and now EVO series...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jgalan14:
Yeah but that question is, is it worth it? I mean the Evo was a mind blowing phone, first 4G , first ffc (in the states ) , first big screen for android (wm got it first) , etc, what phone can beat the Evo out of the waters without a dual core? (I don't care about 3d ) or any other new stuff? Like the nfc(which practicly is exclusive for nexus s for now )
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zorachus:
I am glad there are new revised phones every year. Technology can never rest. We must never be satisfied. Otherwise we still be using Razor phones.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xjackofall:
I suspect the Evo will be relevant well past another year, especially given how much dev work is put into it. Once HDMI works (and it will) I will probably not suffer from Phone Envy for another 6 months at least, and likely much longer than that.

sent from the phone that replaced my laptop
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CCallahan:
I just hope if/when the EVO 2 is released, it has actual leading edge technology. From what I see it would be hard to beat a phone like the Optimus right now (as far as hardware specs). Maybe later in the year or next year. Sprint needs to get a dual core phone soon though.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MedioGringo:
The 1.2 Ghz chip that is supped to be in the Pyramid supports both GSM and CDMA (MSM8260 for GSM, MSM8660 for CDMA) so the Pyramid could be the EVO2 on Sprint, and some other similar phone on Tmo. I would seem smart to get the EVO2 on more than one carrier, since it was such a huge hit for tiny Sprint. Considering Sprint just sent out invites yesterday to CTIA on March 22nd saying they have a special product to unveil, my guess would be an EVO2 announcement. Especially since HTC's competitors have all already announced their next-gen phones.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] buckless:
good thinking medio gringo makes sense::cool:
[Epic 4G General] noreboy:
I hate to have to ask this question, but I've read 6 or 7 threads in the last hour and can't find a straight answer. I'm in S. FL. Will Froyo be updated on our phones automatically?

I understand I can update manually, but I don't have time for that, which is part of the reason I left WinMo.
[Epic 4G General] lategordon:
If you are on stock Android 2.1 (Eclair), you will get the update over the air within the next 3 days.

If you are not stock Android 2.1 (Eclair), you won't.
[Epic 4G General] babystewie:
Yes. If you are not rooted and stock rom, you'll get a notice on your phone over the next few days when it's your area's turn. If you are rooted, you should still get it if you are on stock rom and all the bloatware is still there.
[Epic 4G General] noreboy:
Perfect! Exactly what I needed to know. I'll just wait 3 days, thanks.
[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
The first update we received a few months back took a week to get to my phone, and it kept popping up at rather inconvenient times when it finally showed. The visual voice mail update took 4 weeks to get to my phone. I'm in Central FL

I did the simple update method, which I posted about here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=964260. I had my update installed before most OTAs, and I did it on my time. You could do it on your lunch break without issue.
[Epic 4G General] :
you know it just takes 10 minutes right.

do it while you're taking a dump or something
[Epic 4G General] sleebus.jones:
Oh ah um, yeah, they don't update people in S. FL. :rolleyes:

Location has NUTZINK to do with it.
[Epic 4G General] noreboy:
Ok, so it's now a week later and still no update. Will this update ever be pushed?
[Epic 4G General] :
Call sprint or just do it manually.
[Epic 4G General] jeremiah.rs:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com.../2010/11/08/samsung-epic-maintenance-releases

The update has been temporarily suspended, its been causing a lot of trouble with peoples phones. If you really want it, you're going to have to use the update.zip.
[Epic 4G General] noreboy:
Ok, at this rate I will never get an update pushed to my phone. I wonder if its safe for me to just update manually.
[Epic 4G General] Tbtltdts:
Recommend using the 200meg update tool from samsung if doing manual. Just back up everthing :-)

Sent from my Epic 4g Runnin Froyo...rooted for my pleasure!!
[Epic 4G General] dr_gibberish:
Just realize that the Samsung tool wipes everything on your phone, and if you are on stock 2.1 I don't think there is any good way to back up everything. (no clockwork backup and titanium wont work w/o root)
[Epic 4G General] cnuckols1:
My backup pro works just fine. it will save data and apps with data.
[Epic 4G General] noreboy:
So is that it, Samsung not going to release the fixed Froyo!? After waiting eternity, Samsung released a long over due Froyo just to shutup pissed customers, only for the release to be buggie and them take it down shortly after and totally forget about us again! I think this will be the last Samsung phone I ever buy!

Samsung = company that only cares about future products...not supporting current/old ones.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Loam1990:
hi !

First, I am really sorry for my bad english...:o

I just installed Metamorph in my Optimus one but I don't find metamorph theme for this !

Does somebody can help me ? Where can I find some theme ?

Thanks a lot ;)