yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
Well I need the SAMOLED's contrasts, and the Nexus S' Ice Cream next June... It's just more important than Tegra 2 (at the moment) and the -unfortunately PenTile- qHD display. I can't wait till November/December for Ice Cream (which will be the Matias Duarte version of Android). Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge NVIDIA fanboy and have been waiting for Tegra 2 for more than a year, googling its news everyday.

But I'm pretty sure now that I'll get the Nexus S.

However, why hasn't 720p capture been hacked on the Nexus S yet? The "hardware limitation" theory has been debunked already; turns out Google didn't want to pay for the codecs. But why hasn't it been hacked on??
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
That was one amazing post. Thank you! Just what I needed to hear.

I know for a fact I won't buy the laptop dock. I also love that there's a replacement for the Nexus S's lack of LED (noLED).

I'm again pretty sure now that the Nexus S is for me. I'm a bit worried about the GPS and lack of 720p, but the former seems to be a non-issue and the latter could happen in an update.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seriouslyjeff:
Sorry I didn't mention anything about the GPS. I have had a few android phones and GPS is a huge deciding factor for me. The gps on the at&t captivate was absolutely horrible almost unusable. The gps on my nexus 1 works like a charm however since I've gotten the nexus s I've used nothing except for that phone for my gps. The screen is bright and amazing to look at in the sun And it is very accurate even backs out and rotates with me when I'm in a parking lot with no road even close. I haven't been able to compare it to the a atrix yet But I can't imagine a gps system working better.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
Excellent! What about 720p? I've seen the Atrix samples and they look beautiful (a tad less awesome than iPhone 4 though), while Nexus S can only manage to shoot 480p video. Why hasn't it been hacked on yet?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seriouslyjeff:
To tell you the truth I don't know. That is 1 of the few things I haven't really looked into. I just did some video samples on both phones can I do have to admit thx does look better. I am running cyanogen7 on my ns and I'm sure the best video would be included with this rom I just dont happen to do a whole lot of video. You have brought up a good point though I'm going to look into it=) I will report back later with my findings in less anybody else have any ideas?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phobos512:
Just a few points of clarification to offer...

The screen on the Nexus S isn't curved; the glass is. See the iFixit review - the display underneath is flat. Technical correction but still.

You use both phones on AT&T - so that means you don't have 3G on the Nexus, correct?

LED is at least three colors from MANY posts on this forum (red, green and white have been reported; also seen isolated reports of blue and purple).
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seriouslyjeff:
Thank you! Lol I apologize, yes the glass is curved. Either way from my perspective (non technician) it feels great having the curved glass.

I do use both on ATT however I was using my N1 and now have the Atrix as my other phone so I just simply hotspot. Hasn't been a problem at all it happens automatically. I believe he is talking about waiting for the ATT Nexus S. I would NOT recommended using ANY phone on edge! Unless you only have that option of cou

I can't wait until someone smarter than I can hack into the code to let us customize the colors for the LED. Although it will be hard to see as it's pretty small (I'm used to the trackball on my N1) it will still be very handy. Notifications are huge to me, thats why I use noLED on the SAMOLED screen. It kinda blows on the Atrix. BUT it look slike we will have an LED anyways =)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] franciscojavierleon:
believe it or not, i'm favoring the atrix right now. however, having the latest os, no blur and super amoled is tempting.

as you can see, 2 out of 3 advantages that the nexus has can be solved if we get nice roms. I don't care much about roms having the stock kernel, but i'm still thinking about it.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] franciscojavierleon:
good post. it seems that my first replier of this topic was wrong. it is possible to have a question answered without flamewars.

while i am a programmer, i am a very high level one (don't know hardware 1 bit) so i would qualify myself as a power user instead. I have a jailbroken ipod and i will play with roms (installing, not creating them)

while the nexus seems great, it isn't available yet (i need the at&t bands), and its pros could get axed if the atrix gets decent roms. so i'm waiting a little more, let's see what march brings us.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seriouslyjeff:
Yeah I am with you on that. I can't wait to be able to trade my T-mobile version for the ATT version.. I'm just lucky enough to have two lines (one my company pays for) so I have 3G on both via wireless tether. I couldn't ever feel right about recommending an edge phone over a 4G phone! But once that ATT version hits.... yummy =)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
Finally, the first video comparison:

[YOUTUBE]wm3BJ2vKpGM[/YOUTUBE]

Surprise, surprise... it seems that they are identical -speedwise, and that maybe the Nexus S is a bit smoother during certain gestures.

As for the Atrix looking brighter, I'm pretty sure he has the settings changed on the Nexus S, since it actually has a screen brighter than the Atrix 4G:

Courtesy of Anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4165/the-motorola-atrix-4g-preview/4

And of course the Nexus S has much better contrasts, it's incomparable.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] humancyborg:
That's my video, I can record more detail for anyone if helpful
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adil06944:
I have a Nexus One and I've been waiting since my contract expired in October to get a phone that i will like and let me tell you this:

I was looking forward to the Nexus S the most because i really like the Nexus One and just wanted something with more powerful hardware and a nicer camera. I was severely disappointed by the Nexus S. I've played with it and its a great phone but its not enough of an upgrade over the Nexus one to go out and buy.

Now the Atrix comes out and has most of the things i want and i really want to get it but the bootloader is signed. If i buy a phone that i'll be stuck with for the next 2 years, i want to make sure that people on XDA will be able to keep it updated. With a signed bootloader, custom kernels are likely not possible therefore when Motorola decides they no longer want to support it i will be stuck with probably gingerbread. And almost guaranteed that they will stop supporting it before 2 years are up.

Developers on here are great and a major reason why i used my AT&T tilt for as long as i used it. It would have been useless a long time ago if devs on here were not able to do what they do.

I will just wait it out for a device that is powerful enough and comes with a bootloader that is not encrypted or signed. Until then my N1 will have to do.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
Thanks humancyborg!

Well it would be great if you show how different flash performs on both phones, since this was the main reason why I wanted a Tegra 2 phone...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] franciscojavierleon:
if you want a nicer camera stay away from the atrix, pictures look purple.

as for other options, maybe those gingerbread sony ericsson phones will do what you want.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
By the way, every video of the Nexus S I've seen online had choppy scrolling and pinching. Did you mod your Nexus S in any way to get so "Atrix-smooth"??

If you did, let us know which ROMs, Kernel you used...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] humancyborg:
That is a bone stock Nexus S running the 2.3.3 update.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lefttobleed:
hey even i need to know which phone to get atrix, nexus s or arc..... i am favouring the nexus now because i mod my phone (hero) a lot.... but i also want a future proof phone with latest hardware.... so am thinking abt atrix....

1> i would like to know how the nexus performs as well as the atrix with a single core....

2> is the software not using both the cores of the atrix?

3> will future software make the atrix super-fast????

4> will the bootloader issue be resolved with atrix?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
The Nexus S is a lot cheaper. As an Atrix user, I can tell you that the software is not optimized yet. The phone becomes choppy with live wallpapers, andyou can see that in all homecreen/appscreen transitions. The Nexus S is now smoother.

Get the Nexus S, save $200, and upgrade to the LG Nexus 3 with Tegra 3 by Christmas.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robstunner:
According to smartphoneenvey, the atrix has the bettery camera for pictures, as well as the obviously better camcorder.

http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/featured/face-off-samsung-nexus-s-vs-motorola-atrix-4g/
[HTC Inspire 4G] jthornton71707:
I've heard everything. From you'll need a different Sim to get 4G speeds, you'll need to change your data plan, and at&t hasn't launched 4G yet. What's going on? I personal can't get speeds over 2.2 mbps and from what I've read nobody else can either. Whats the real deal here?
[HTC Inspire 4G] netnerd:
real deal is att just relabel their 3G as 4G!

on att map, it shows i got 4G coverage in bayarea, CA.

but speedtest is the same as my regular 3G phone (captivate)!
[HTC Inspire 4G] rob989_69:
Heck Rochester NY my Captivate if faster than the "4G" speeds. I can get 3.3 down 1.2 up on average on the captivate. Inspire is around 2.2 and .2.
[HTC Inspire 4G] JetBlk:
hmm i get about 3.1 in rochester and .38 down constantly. where are you in roc?
[HTC Inspire 4G] rob989_69:
Webster

10char
[HTC Inspire 4G] jthornton71707:
I'm in ca in the valley. 3g is around 3mbps Here... I can't seem to get over 1mbps today!. Argh
[HTC Inspire 4G] matt_b:
dirty secret of 4g

fake 4g vs real 4g
[HTC Inspire 4G] brent_si:
I was told by an att employee that they won't be launching the 4g until June. It will show up on your phone as 4g coverage but won't get the speed of it until June.
[HTC Inspire 4G] id10terrordfw:
Anyone else read the title of this thread and think of "The Real Deal with Bill McNeil?"

Also, signs point to hspa+ not being turned on til some mystical future day.
[HTC Inspire 4G] p4ranoid4ndroid:
Getting around 3.5 down and 1 up. Was getting like 2 down, 1.5 up with my captivate
[HTC Inspire 4G] POPPY SEEDE:
i'm getting up to 4.7
[HTC Inspire 4G] JetBlk:
ah im in henrietta
[HTC Inspire 4G] calin75:
Any ETA on activating 4G in Miami?
[HTC Inspire 4G] Maliberti:
I have 4G in Seattle.

I also was given a new Sim card, a bit different then the one I had for my Captivate.

I am getting anywhere from 2.5mb to 6mb DL.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Cwluc:
The real deal is that AT&T (well all the carriers) lied to us and the newer speeds will be rolled out whenever they feel like it.

I don't know anyone who's in the prime 4G spots who gets decent speeds (without or without the patched HSUPA).

I like others on the forums have heard many mixed things about when they'll officially be rolling the faster speeds out but for the moment we all got duped.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Twenty4:
I am in Baltimore (launched 4G market) and I get better speeds in the 3G areas then I do in the center of the 4G areas.

Kinda ****ed up!
[HTC Inspire 4G] boufa:
Patience

O.k. here is the real deal... an actual answer to your question rather than simply posting my speeds.

4g is being rolled out in several phases. Lets tackle them one at a time.

First AT&T is releasing HSPDA+ as 4G... technically it is not 4g but since T-Mobile is advertising it that way, so is AT&T. This has 2 different upgrades to make it work. 1) They had to do a software upgrade to the transmitters on the cell towers. I believe that it is either all complete or close to complete. So technically they are using a 4g network for those transmissions. However that leads to the second step. 2) They need to upgrade the physical wires feeding the towers to handle the additional speeds. This is a much more massive process and a much slower roll out. This is called backhaul and is creeping out now, tower by tower. (T-Mobile is in the same boat, and they also do not have their backhaul anywhere near done.)

Second phase is to upgrade the entire system to LTE (a true 4g) This process is not supposed to start until summer and not be significantly built out until mid - late 2012. Verizon also does not have much of their LTE network built out, and don't even have their LTE phone on the market yet (the Thunderbolt).

I still work in an area with only Edge... a little patience and it will get to you. I can tell you that even without the HSPDA+ network running, it is still a ton faster than my Tilt2.
[Nook Color General] leorob:
Could someone give me the potential disadvantages of overclocking my rooted NC.

It is working well now.

Would I have to redo anything I have already done.

Thanks
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
Other than possibly shorter battery life? No downside at all...
[Nook Color General] Tschumi:
Slightly shorter battery life. Create some profiles in setcpu and you won't even notice it.
[Nook Color General] treofi:
The backside of the nook color will get warmer.
[Nook Color General] leorob:
Could you tell an Android newbie what SETCPU is how to use it.

I'm a Windows and DOS expert but know nothing about Android systems.

Thanks
[Nook Color General] diomark:
slightly lower battery life.. but otherwise, non really.. and it makes a huge difference.

-mark
[Nook Color General] dr_tracker:
There you go:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=505419
[Streak 5 General] nickshertzer:
This was originally a request to get the HC gmail apk working on Froyo. However...

Found that Google quietly updated the web gMail to show the iPad two pane version when using Dolphin. Pull to refresh, two pane, almost good enough to not need the HC version below ;) I had gotten it to work before using the iPad's UA string, but it didn't work well. It appears that the code is now optimized for Android! Sweet (like frozen yogurt sweet)!
[Streak 5 General] nickshertzer:
Let's get this on #MyStreak

http://twitter.com/#!/GoogleMobile/status/40819021414666240

Looking for an apk. Surely it works with the 2.2 Froyo codebase (one can dream)?

[REQUEST] Honeycomb Gmail

Looks quite nice:

[Youtube]Ncq4uiREF08[/Youtube]
[Streak 5 General] nickshertzer:
Kind of unrelated, but this post has a Mail'd app from the Adam (but I doubt that it works). Any guinea pigs want to try it out? :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=928832

And of course there is the Galaxy Tab email client (which I have on #MyStreak, thank you DJ_Steve)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=905659

Edit: TabMail gave a "connection error" after a couple hours syncing Exchange (switching wifi ap maybe?) So back to stock Email.apk
[Streak 5 General] nickshertzer:
Well... there was a system dump from the Xoom that would have been promising to play around with, but content was pulled due to DMCA... BOOOO!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=966767

But, on a more related note, here is an edited 2.3.2 Gmail app that has been edited to always "Show Pictures"

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=847035
[Streak 5 General] nickshertzer:
updated OP because Google released optimized code for "iPad" layout when connecting to gmail.com using Dolphin.
[HD2 Accessories] Baker0:
The rubber case I got from ebay finally paid me back last night when I drop my HD2. It still left a tiny little mark but nothing compaired if i didnt have one. If you have got a case get one!

Cheers

Baker0
[HD2 Accessories] xxljmzlxx:
always use protection :D
[HD2 Accessories] toreone:
Care to share which case it was in particular?! :D
[HD2 Accessories] xlr8me:
Was it with lube or without?

:P
[HD2 Accessories] Baker0:
Its black number from ebay. it was a while ago since i bought it:)
[HD2 Accessories] SlothX311:
I've been trying to force myself to use the rubber case that comes with the T-mobile HD2 but I just love how thin and light it feels without the case... someday I will regret it :(
[HD2 Accessories] Tachi91:
i bought an HTC silicone thingy and it feels AWESOME! have a hard case somewhere.. i cnt find it though
[HD2 Accessories] VandaL.pr!:
I hate using any kind of cases... but thats just me ;)
[HD2 Accessories] MixerNoMore:
I had a similar experience last summer. I wanted to check a text message and took my phone out of my pocket and instantly dropped it on the street. Man, I was glad I got a silicone cover from eBay!
[HD2 Accessories] bft579:
I use a rubber case as well, adds extra grip to the back of the phone with the ridges.
[HD2 Accessories] mattfmartin:
Rubbers always save your life.
[HD2 Accessories] koebel:
I am using the case-mate slim cover for my HD2. You hardly see it & works fine.
[HD2 Accessories] sstfn:
Same here, the look of the phone is gone with a case.
[HD2 Accessories] Optimus-Prime:
i want a case for my phone, but i hate silicone ones. just for the fact that they stick to your pants pocket and it pisses me off when your driving and cant get it out because of the case being stuck to inside of your pocket.

i bought this 5 pack of hard silicone cases, but they didn't fit my HD2, so there just sitting there.
[HTC Inspire 4G] equlizer:
For starters i cant shut my phone off, it goes into clockwork recovery. I lost 15% battery over 8 hours when screen was off. The dictionary on this rom is very small or predictive is jor working properly.

Im runnng nightly cm7 with the dhd kernel that just csme out.
[HTC Inspire 4G] matt_b:
are you trying to charge your phone while its turned off? going into clockwork while turned off is a known issue of clockwork recovery.

so you're using this rom with this kernel?

i've been using that for the past 2 days with no issues at all and getting about 12 hours of use with still 20-30% battery left.
[Fascinate General] chronster:
So I turn my mobile data off to save battery, but when I get a picture message it says "Downloading..." and when I put mobile data back on, it NEVER DOWNLOADS.

How can I get these pictures to download now that I've restored the data connection?
[Fascinate General] PJnc284:
yeah it needs 3G connection for mms. Not sure why it wouldn't go ahead and download after enabling it though
[Fascinate General] dalrym05:
I did this once. Rebooted phone and then they came in.
[Fascinate General] chronster:
doesn't work :(

I wonder if I can clear message cache somehow?
[Fascinate General] andrewhat:
I had problems with my mms as well. I found it was a DNS problem. I found the dns_level 3zip and flashed it with cws and it started to work again. Just search custom dns
[Fascinate General] ataranine:
turn your mobile data on and tell them to re-send it. Problem solved.
[Fascinate General] chronster:
problem not solved

it's clearly a bug
[HTC Inspire 4G] LSUtigers03:
I started getting this error when I flashed CM7. It would happen every now and then but not too much. I decided to wait until CM7 was working perfectly on the Inspire so I reflashed Android Revolution. Everything went fine at first and I put all my data back on. Now I'm getting the error nonstop. I can't use the phone at all because when I force close to get rid of the error another one pops up and its an endless cycle. Does anyone know what causes this and what I can do to get rid of it?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _Cooze_:
Can I find out which app is causing the gps icon to appear? While its on I go to settings under running apps, nothing thats running has gps.. :confused:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ludicious:
Are you running the stock rom? I never had this issue until I loaded Cyanogen 7 RC1. Unsure what's doing the lookup, but assuming it's what's keeping my phone from sleeping and consuming the battery.
[G Tablet General] Roadzero:
would it be possible/what would it require to port google apps (new gmail) from the honeycomb system dump or would it require the honeycomb framework too?
[G Tablet General] Hellburger:
They require the Honeycomb frameworks. YouTube/Books are using (at least) the new animation frameworks, and Gmail is using Fragments. Those are just a few examples.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EvoYas:
I dont know if this a problem im having with the phone or is this how it is, some times when my phone is not being used and i pick it up after a few mins, it takes about 30 to 40 seconds to pick u data connection again, the bars stay white than turn green.

Can any one confirm if its just me or is it a bug or is it just built this way.

Thank you.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peeturr:
Are you running any custom roms or stock?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EvoYas:
Stock, i just got the phone so i havent done anything to it yet.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peeturr:
I wouldn't say its a bug or anything. I had the same problem on my vibrant. Usually a network or tower issue within your area. Otherwise if you have a case on, that may be the culprit.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EvoYas:
It also does that with the wifi on. But if its just how it is than i guess i dont have to exchange devices, cuz i dont like doing that buy if i have to i dont mind.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d.chatten:
The 3g and wifi icons only turn green when the phone is connected to the internet "&" google services, if the icons are white you are connected to the internet but not google services, this is by design.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EvoYas:
Thank you so much. Now i dont have to worry about about an exchange at all.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgtagem:
Need help here. I would like to install the stock HTC footprints app on my evervolv rom. I have the apk but when i try to install it just says ' was not installed" any ideas?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g00s3y:
Evervolv is AOSP, that is an HTC app & Sense based, it won't work.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgtagem:
I knew it was something stupid. Im still a bit new at all this hehe thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mingkee:
I caught one with 190MB application storage which is unacceptable for most.

I use MT4 and NS instead of nexus one because of that. Don't ever think app2SD helps because it won't work when the phone is in USB mass storage mode or memory card is removed.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] HeavyComponent:
I had about the same until I started adding some of my apps to the phone. I can't even add all my apps because of the internal storage. Can't wait for root and some Roms (CyanogenMod 7). :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Beefvvl:
Man this thing is pissing me off. I can't even install half the apps I had installed on my original Vibrant. :(
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] HeavyComponent:
T-mobile should give us options on installing apps as soon as we turn it on. They just throw **** we won't use on the phone and call it a day. Now what if we had no devs nor root or anything like that? Look at what we would be stuck with. In that case people would just return the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Beefvvl:
We can use Titanium Backup to freeze those apps for now right?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] HeavyComponent:
Well yeah if you have root access.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Beefvvl:
Cool I rooted it and have Titanium Backup installed. Just no CWM yet for ROM Manager.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mavictb:
I have all my appz installed with no issue... honestly 16gb onboard made the vibrant slow. im glad to have less... and I can install as many apps to my sd card as i want.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] IAIRonI:
I see someone has said they have over 500mb of internal, how is that possible and why is mine not the same?