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[Epic 4G General] themirthfulswami:
I got completely 4G-duped by the Sprint salesman when I upgraded to the Epic back in October. The store where I got my phone is approximately 7 miles from my apartment, and that store rides the line on 4G coverage (which I didn't realize at the time). The sales guy in the store whipped out his EVO and showed me that his 4G worked. He told me he lived very close to my apartment and that he got 4G there as well.

Needless to say, I got home later on.. no 4G in my apartment. I was pretty pissed.

Unfortunately, my choices were to either return the Epic and pay $100 to get a replacement for my Palm Pre (would be my 6th Pre), return the Epic and get a different phone that would also not get 4G service, or keep the Epic. So I chose to keep the Epic under the guise that they were "building out the network" and would "have better coverage really soon" (as stated by the guy when I went back to the store to complain).

Oh well. Now that the $10/mo is manditory for smartphones on Sprint, my plan costs the same as I would be paying on Verizon. If something really compelling comes to Big Red, I have no reason not to switch *shrug*
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
"Mostly halted". ;)

The information comes from Clearwire's own announcements and reports that they laid off a bunch of their workers and cut back on expansion since last quarter. Maybe they are picking up pace again, but no news has said so.
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
no news is good news!
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
i never actually mentioned the 10 dollar fee which people seem to keep bringing up, that is immaterial to the fact that we are stuck with phones that are obsolete with 4g buttons that for most of the people owning them will never work. and worse stuck for 2 years while technology passes us by.
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Clearwire getting sued.

http://arstechnica.com/telecom/news...-lawsuit-clearwire-cant-deliver-the-goods.ars
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
I'm putting a 6G tower in my back yard and saying **** everyone...by the time I'm done with it, I WILL BE THE FIRST AND ONLY CARRIER WITH 6G! Anyone want to buy subscriptions in the Clinton, TN area now?..hell I'll sell subscriptions to any of you so I can "build out my network" :cool:
[Epic 4G General] joshk89:
Don't get a 4g phone if you're not in a 4g area. Nuff said.

I live in Tampa fl and work downtown so 4g is no issue for me. I pick up 4g randomly around the city as well. At work I hit close to 5mbps which is pretty legit IMO. Stop whining and switch carriers if you dontlike sprint.
[Epic 4G General] burgerpimp07:
I live in the bay area and I pretty much get 4g service everywhere I go. The speed does vary from ~2-7 mbps depending on where I am.

I get it at work, school, home, and anywhere I try it. Maybe I'm lucky?

I almost want to stop paying for internet and just use wired/wireless tether whenever I want internet at home.
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
Not really. Some people needed a phone upgrade from the Moment to another phone with a keyboard. The only other option until now was the Epic. Even without the keyboard, the option was the Evo. Both of them are 4G.

Trust me, I would love to have the Epic with no 4G hardware on it in San Diego (which will never see 4G).
[Epic 4G General] crzyrider250:
I'd say you're lucky. I'm in San Diego, and we've got nothing. I think there might be one or two live 4G base stations in the whole county, and no word on when we'll be "built out."
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
Just wanted to say hey to a fellow San Diegan!

/end thread jack
[Epic 4G General] mrzood:
Verizon's LTE is going to blow Sprint's WiMax out of the water. 700Mhz LTE, the building penetration is extremely good along with data speeds. I tested their LTE a while back and indoors I was getting 30-35Mbps down and 5-6Mbps up. Talk about fast!
[Epic 4G General] herbthehammer:
Yeah its faster if you are close to a tower, but my opinion is you people are getting upset for something that's kinda meh. I understand your frustration, I do. Sliced bread is still the better invention.

Don't believe the hype. Its range is too limited to really be an enjoyable experience.

You got signal lock? Good! Don't move or breathe. ****! That bird flying by made me lose the signal!
[Epic 4G General] mrzood:
This is pretty much how Sprint's WiMax is for me. I really do enjoy the service when it WORKS, but the spotty coverage and awful building penetration really leave a bad impression. :(

I'm very grateful that it barely connects are work since it is still faster than our T1!
[Epic 4G General] Kitteh298:
No, because I have 4g! :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] imtjnotu:
I'm still waiting or it in san diego
[Epic 4G General] crzyrider250:
Sprint's lack of WiMax/"4G" is frustrating, as an Epic owner but also as a Sprint subscriber. Hold my breath waiting for WiMax for the life of my contract, and then what?

In my area, T-Mo has fast wireless, Verizon has LTE in place, I'm sure ATT will be hitting San Diego as soon as possible. Likely, any of those will lead to a better user experience than the abysmally slow 3G speeds I'm seeing. If Sprint stops building out WiMax and/or switches to LTE, their customers are going to seek service elsewhere. It's not that much more to switch to another carrier, when you factor in the $10 data charge.

I love my launch-day Epic, especially now that we have some leaps and bounds in ROM building...it is an enjoyable device. But when ATT users on iPhone 3G's can download stuff faster than my 4G phone...I am disappoint.

edit to add: seems like everyone is from San Diego? lol
[Epic 4G General] glasscitysd:
your lucky... i love in toledo ohio no 4g yet....
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
I'd like to have 4G in my area - but I'm not complaining. I switched to Sprint for the Epic, and even being on 3G, I'm happy with it. The Epic's not perfect, and CIQ is obviously a ***** move, but having Sprint and Verizon for $68/mo (after tax/etc.) with true unlimited data and nearly unlimited calling is a sweet deal. I knew what I was getting when I signed the contract, and that hasn't changed.
[Epic 4G General] tsperez:
What 4G?

I was told when I got my Epic 4G that we would have 4G in our area before the end of 2010. Still don't have it and with no end in sight.

tsp
[Epic 4G General] thizzmaster:
Very bad 4g in my area and my area had it for almost a year now. I did the check on the website and it said my house is able to receive 4g...apparently it can't. Stop lying about coverage sprint!
[Epic 4G General] coolqf:
Sprint's new pricing plan has all who upgrade to a smartphone or upgrade their smartphones have to pay the $10 fee, not just those who get a 4G phone.
[Epic 4G General] running_the_dream:
When I look at Sprint's 4G coverage map, my jobs and home are supposedly in dark blue, meaning max signal. But, about 90% of the time, I only have 1 bar in 4G. And it tends to disconnect a lot. Even while I'm streaming videos or navigating web pages.
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
yea exactly, even in the areas where we supposedly have 4g, its a joke, i've tried in 2 stadiums that are in 4g coverage, an outdoor stadium and still no lock, only on the highways am i lucky to get coverage and then its an on again off again affair where i just end up turning it off.
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
sorry, where did I say anything about a 10 dollar fee???
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
Epic Party? Well, a party for those who own Epics...not necessarily an EPIC party...

And with all the troubles clearwire is having as of late I'm pretty close to certain that we're not getting it anytime soon if at all.
[Epic 4G General] dwallersv:
Come on over to Santa Cruz and share our misery, bro!

Sent from my mind using telepathitalk
[Epic 4G General] dchawk81:
Fed up? Nah. But I do wish we had either it or faster & more consistent 3g.
[Epic 4G General] pimpin oh boy:
Doesnt effect me I live in such a small area by the time we get 4g 6g will be out
[Epic 4G General] nlinux:
I would suggest checking the 4g in your area, while sprint hasn't been announcing new deployments, I have discovered that even though spring hasn't announced my city as being on the list for expansion, it is already working, and I've discovered that it's working in several other places that I frequently travel too that also are not on the expansion list. I do love the 4g speed when I get it too, night and day difference between it and the 3g service.
[Epic 4G General] crabjoe:
I agree with you 100% on this. Verizon's current CDMA service is at 800mhz so as long as Verizon added LTE to their existing cell sites, their coverage is going to be almost identical. They'll have a sea of red on their LTE coverage map by 2013 and great building penetration.

Sprint likes to say they have more spectrum so they can move data faster then Verizon's LTE but who cares if Wimax won't go through a wall? And even with the limited spectrum Verizon has, they can easily work around that problem by adding more LTE sites. The best is they don't have have a ton of LTE towers since they only need to be added where they expect congestion. With Sprint/Clearwire's WiMax, they have to have more towers just to get the same coverage....

Personally I dont' have any issues with Sprint/Clearwire going WiMax. My problem with Sprint/Clearwire is that they're just not doing it right. They either need to move to a lower frequency or they need a gazillion towers for decent coverage. 2.5ghz just sucks for mobile applications......
[Epic 4G General] crabjoe:
This isn't scientific, but look at the speeds TMO is offering with their HSPA +. It put's Sprint and ATT's 4G service to shame!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41485079/ns/technology_and_science-wireless/
[Epic 4G General] plasmata:
Does Sprint have a list or map of cities for upcoming 4G rollouts?
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
There's one on their website, also you can subscribe to be emailed when it reaches you, although it's BS since it supposedly reached me in December but still have never found a signal.
[Epic 4G General] thizzmaster:
your lucky, i live in the bay too, but i live near sunnyvale/mountain view, where 4g is very spotty. even though it says that its covered, i dont get 4g even when im standing outside with my phone pointed to the sky!
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
I actually just found out that 4g is on and active in parts of my city(knoxville, tn)...sadly parts of it I am never near unless i feel like sitting in traffic for hours - that's the only thing that exists there Traffic and 4G....
[Epic 4G General] contradude:
This is kind of odd to see, honestly. I live in orlando fl and for the most part 4g is rockin' there. Also was putting around in orange park (outside of jacksonville) still getting great signal. I think sprint is just trying to get backhaul (more fiber data lines) to some of their towers before they switch on 4g there... honestly more interested that they are killing off 800mhz nextel completely by next year as well as converting all base stations to modular. Nationwide 4g anyone?
[Epic 4G General] me88me:
San Francisco bay area currently have 4g. I have my 4g on all the time but my phone is charging those time so i don't kill my battery. Good stuff and fast speeds!
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Clearwire CEO Resigns Amid Sprint, T-Mobile Talks

http://www.mobiledia.com/news/83873.html
[Epic 4G General] bigshark7:
I don't have 4G where I live, but have it where I work and travel. Its a shame its not more ubiquitous but at least I can get it when travelling.
[Epic 4G General] :
It only works outside in Houston.

2.5 ghz = crap. You don't want sprint 4g. i'd rather be on 3g
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Check out Sprint Network Vision project.

iDen will be phased out to use its lower frequency for 3G/4G. Base stations will be consolidated.
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
The issue with T-Mo's network is that it lacks the spectrum to accommodate an inevitable increase of data/voice traffic despite offering fast initial speeds. Thus, it has been negotiating to buy spectrum from Clearwire and/or Sprint.
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
Yes

Sent from XDA app with 2.2 powered Epic 4g
[Epic 4G General] imtjnotu:
After spending the whole day in LA with 4g I hate an diego now and sprint for no 4g here.....
[Epic 4G General] bauerlucas:
Go to t mobile I get h all over the place.
[Epic 4G General] jeffyv2:
Yep LA with 4G = win
[Epic 4G General] lviv73:
My Sprint 3g speed is never over 250kbs,tmobile 3g is never under 500kbs and can be over a 1200kbs.And thats tmobile regular 3g and not 3g+(aka 4g) which in most cases is just as fast or even faster than sprint's 4g and maybe even verizon.
[Epic 4G General] icebear8:
No 4g in des moines ia =( I don't even know if there ever will be
[Epic 4G General] biscojams:
Really? What parts? Im in Knoxville too
[Epic 4G General] BigBrotherMotown:
YES.....I am fed up with the lack of 4G.....but only for this reason.

EVERY TIME I talk to a customer service rep they ANNOUNCE to me that I am in a 4G coverage area! (I live just outside chicago)

Its like they are bragging about it....

But yet and still I RARELY ever see one bar of 4G

SMDH
[Epic 4G General] j3m4090:
^^ it still frustrates me though...i get service for like 2 mins and then its gone
[Epic 4G General] keunsuk:
do you guys think sprint throttles 3g speed? I think they do.

I am tired of their slow 3g speed.

Im in NYC/NJ area. the 3g speed is slow even when I have a full bar.

I just tested, 100kbps up/down with my epic with 3 bars.

Pathetic!!!

On the other hand, my work verizon droid incredible can hit 500kbps + easily and consistently.

However 4g is around 5mbps *when* it works. It does not work well inside buildings.
[Epic 4G General] QuestingHero:
I just found out that Knoxville has it too. Cedar Bluff, Down Town, and Marryville seem to have it.

Click here to see map
[Epic 4G General] lviv73:
Im upstate in Buffalo my 3g can be slow as 30kbs and fast as 250kbs,average speed is 100-150 and that is pathetic,i had those speeds with att in 2007.
[Epic 4G General] NeonMonster:
I'm waiting patiently for Clearwire/Sprint to expand their 4G to cover my house area!

Looking at Clear's map, it shows 4 different Wimax towers all within 1 mile of my house, so it won't be long till my whole neighborhood gets 4g...

I was able to get 4G briefly about 2 blocks away from my house, and it averaged 5-7MB download.

Downtown Sacramento, where I was getting FULL 4G coverage, it was anywhere from 8-15MB download! :)
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
It's just weird, Sprint's coverage map for 4G implies I've got STRONG 4G signal at my house, but I can get only 1 bar of it outside and it's slower than my 3G speeds??? :confused:

Oh well, 3G is all I need anyways. :D
[Epic 4G General] djbacon06:
I'm fed up with Sprint's lack of 5g:p

But in all seriousness, I can't complain whatsoever. I live in metro ATL and it's harder for me to find areas with OUT 4g coverage than areas with it. Speeds can be pretty inconsistent at times, but I rarely see below 4 mb/s. In all honesty, I don't even use it that much, 3g usually is fast enough for my needs. To each their own, though
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
Michigan here and yes sprint lack of 4g here sucks. Verizon and metro pcs only offer 4g around metro detroit..
[Epic 4G General] biscojams:
Well that doesnt have Knoxville on it unless I missed it. Thanks for the info though. Im gonna go walk downtown and check it out
[Epic 4G General] BigBrotherMotown:
i have tried that TWICE....all it does is weaken my 3g signal....and doesnt improve my 4g at all.

Thanks anyway though
[Epic 4G General] Nolonolon:
According to the Sprint rep I spoke with we're not paying ten a month for the "data" we're paying for the "better processor in the phone"..... As I explained I live in a very small town and though it's nice and fancy to have an Epic until the prices hopefully go down again..Doubtful I really have no use for an additional 120 a year price. So I switched back to my older phone since I've been a stay at home subfather of sorts for now and therefore I can still use my Epic through my wifi..However for some reason it's not working.

But the reason I quoted you was that's not true. I drove truck and a greater percentage of the east side of the US has horrible wifi yes even in Ohio. I rarely used 4g and some days it was slow where it was potentially possible to use it. Unless that has changed in the last four weeks I can give you a list of areas I drove around and was located in Ohio. If I recall the best 4g connection I ever obtained was in New Jersey.
[Epic 4G General] QuestingHero:
Sure it does. it is just missing the "Clear" flag, the city it self is covered in green though. I don't think you can get clear service in Knoxville, but I was getting 7mb down and 1mb up out side west town mall.
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
Same here outside of Old Navy across from the mall on Saturday. Its funny though, I drove down Kingston Pike, and I have perfect signal until you go through the intersection at Lovell Road across from The Rush. Then it just stops without warning LOL.

I wish it was available past there because I am at Sir Goonies Mini Golf right passed Lovell every Saturday for most of the day racing RC Cars, and in between races I surf around the interwebs killing time while batteries charge. :(
[Epic 4G General] androikid:
I wish I even had 4g anywhere near me, in the center of michigan I think closest area is grand rapids or chicago area, detroit and lansing don't even have it

Sent from an EPIC 4G FROZEN and Syndicated
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
I get 4g in one part of my town right outside Baltimore. But I couldn't care less because it cost the same amount for no 4g at all.
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Project Leapfrog

A new rumor claims that the LTE move is now a done deal, with Sprint signing contracts with infrastructure supplies Ericsson, Alcatel-Lucent, and Samsung to roll out service over the course of the next two to three years as it decommissions iDEN on its 800MHz spectrum.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/16/sprint-project-leapfrog-rumors-claim-lte-network-upgrade-is-un/
[Epic 4G General] lviv73:
Since we have wimax and they switched to lte that our epic cant use,i wonder if that can be used for getting out of the contract?I was promised 4g 5 months ago and now its never coming.

Is that lte move official and are they still using wimax and can our epicnbe upgraded?
[Epic 4G General] djbacon06:
yup, iDEN will be gone by 2013 for sure (if not earlier) and they are most definitely starting to build up LTE. It is possible sprint will offer both
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
yea, i''m sure they will offer both, but i can bet my life, if you don't have wimax now, you never getting it, its already being sunsetted. maybe a new phone or two with wimax that are already in the pipeline and of course they have to do something until they lite up lte, but unless they already building out wimax at your area and just haven't turned it on yet, its done.

you can't upgrade these phones, we just have 4 year old technological paper weights.
[Epic 4G General] mrzood:
LTE can't come fast enough! I might actually wait it out and stick with Sprint if this is true.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
What's worse than not having 4G?

Having 4G, and it being slower than your 3G speeds. It's teasing you in the face!

I get 485 kbps DL with my 4G signal! It's craaazzzyyyy slow.
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
"The failure of Clearwire as a business is evident and inevitable. The question is what will happen to its valuable spectrum assets."

http://www.glgroup.com/News/Clearwire---Unclear-And-Down-To-The-Wire-52957.html
[Epic 4G General] Restola:
I've been very impressed with Sprint's 4g coverage.

I spend about 3 weeks/month on the road in hotels traveling to a lot of different cities in the US for work. I am frequently surprised at how many cities have 4g, how well it works in my hotel room, and how quick it is while tethering with my laptop which I use to stay up to date on my side-job.

It would be nice if it was everywhere, but having it at my house and also in the majority of places I travel for work is more than I was expecting.
[Epic 4G General] Scott Summers:
Was in the bay a few days ago and although 4G was cute, speed fluctuation and inconsistent connection left me wondering when it'll expand beyond the current cities considering the issues.

But then I suppose it could be worst... I could be on sprint 3G and be slower than molasses. Wait...
[Epic 4G General] dwallersv:
I'm in the camp that says we (and Sprint) gambled on WIMAX, and lost. I no longer have any hopes regarding 4G becoming an actual useful feature of my phone, and have come to terms with it.

it's disappointing, but 4G was not the key feature in my decision process in getting the Epic. In most other respects the Epic has been a delight, and I'm grudgingly willing to wait a bit longer for killer data bandwidth on LTE.

Sent from my mind using telepathitalk
[Epic 4G General] obrj:
Yea 4g works great in charlotte but traveling 4g is real limited. I don't think they should charge till its working better and in more places
[Epic 4G General] Tirregius:
There's like two 4x4 block areas where I can connect 4g. This is a joke here in the south bay L.A. county. Total waste of money right now. Paying for it specifically is a scam.
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
yup, thats exactly what I have here, even when I do connect, its useless, i just get frustrated and turn it off, my remote desktop app never ends up being able to use it, maybe for web pages it will work okay. but i've been to two arenas where 4g should be and nothing. waste of time.
[Epic 4G General] JPhantom95:
I care less and less about 4G every day. I just wish the 3G wasn't so terrible. Outdoors is fine but indoors I get absolute garbage. Starting a YouTube video takes well over 2 minutes and I'm frequently forces to hit "retry" in the Market.

Now that all the company price plans are around the same, I wish I stuck with Verizon. If only I could port my Epic over to their network.
[Epic 4G General] Buff McBigstuff:
Well they finally have 4g available in Detroit now, not officially but it IS on. Use sensorly to find it but in my experience it is strong near WSU.
[Epic 4G General] rando991:
I'm afraid it might not get any better anytime soon. I read in the KC Star today that Clearwire has cut back spending and its shares fell more than 4% Monday...
[Epic 4G General] bertm13:
About time. It needs to spread to the metro area :D
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Sprint is weeks away--possibly sooner--from reaching a resolution of a dispute with Clearwire over wholesale pricing, according to a Sprint executive; will unveil its own 4G strategy by the middle of the year, which will likely be influenced by the agreement with Clearwire.

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110322-712415.html
[Epic 4G General] fsc137:
TWS = 0%

I upgraded to Bonsai 4 and EC05, and have done this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=925898

(except that I just changed EntryRX to -100, which is more conservative)

and now, 4G appears to work perfectly.
[Epic 4G General] fczeuner:
I flashed the EC05 modem on top of ACS 1.0.2 and had great 4g all day in philadelphia. Just ran speed test and was dl at 5115kbs. The modem definitely helped me
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dmreall:
Right, can someone give me a quick set-by-set of what to do from my position.

I can access HBOOT fine (HBOOT-1.33.2005 / RADIO-2.22.23.02) and i can access my System Recovery fine (RA-dream-v1.7.0), but i can't boot to my Rom.

I have the following on my desktop:

HBOOT-1.33.0013d

RADIO-2.22.27.08

gapps-tiny-112010 (that the right one?)

froyobylaszlo-5.1 (from: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=929678)

If my thinking is right, i need to:

- Delete the rom etc. that i installed wrong

- Move the files from my desktop onto my SD

- Install everything

- Boot

However, i'm not sure how to go about that... So this is where i need the simple instructions and advice.

**There was a serial0 question before, so ignore the first few posts.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dmreall:
Seems it's because i was using RC29 instead of RC7...

Soon as my phone has charged, i'll flash the rom :)