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[Atrix 4G General] Gervin:
I really call bull on this.

Coming from the world of Airsoft, I'm no stranger to battery performance.

Most of these performance myths are hold overs from the Ni-Cad days and don't apply to modern batteries.
[Atrix 4G General] snlu178:
Call Bull all you want. But it was true to the N1 and so far its been true to my battery. It does not last the first few days and gets better after a few charge cycles.

Frankly, everyone believes whatever they want on batteries. I for one take it as a user by user experience. I watch my battery life a lot, but I also like to have Google Reader and Google Listen syncing.
[Atrix 4G General] oFUNGUSo:
I'm at 30% right now and 12 hours unplugged. What I wouldcall moderate use. Its not as good as my captivate on custom rom / kernel but its far from bad enough.for me to complain about
[Atrix 4G General] rapidstar:
Andriod sucks the battery, bigger battery on Atrix didn't help much. Google need to optimize the OS for better battery management. I am disappointed coming from Samsung Focus & iPhone 4, both have superior battery life. BTW, I am on Day#4, conditioning the battery didn't help any so far..
[Atrix 4G General] bpmortis:
Within Range

Looking at all the comments - I would say the Atrix is within range -- I knew when I saw the 1950 mAh (or whatever the exact spec) that the tegra processor must really be a power hog -- the new processor, along with the huge screen is going to draw a lot of power. Comparing to other phones with single core processors and screens even 20% smaller is not reasonable.
[Atrix 4G General] CC Lemon:
Definitely a good point... going to be interesting to see how well other dual core are going to hold up. That will be a better comparison.
[Atrix 4G General] rapidstar:
Is that battery really a 1930mAH? The size looks like any 1500mAH battery isn't it?
[Atrix 4G General] jsm0372:
I managed to get close to 16 hours of 'normal' use, meaning I wasn't trying to drain it, nor was I trying to conserve battery. I took the phone off the charger at 3pm and made it all the way to 2pm the following day with about 20% left. That's 23 hours, but I subtracted out the time the phone was on while I was asleep, 8 hours (nighttime mode).
[Atrix 4G General] True2TheGame:
Hmm hearing all these replies i believe i have a defective battery. I unplugged mine today at 5:15AM and now it's 2:18PM and it's just gave me the 15% beep. I've sent about 25 texts and played some words with friends. I've got watchdog installed and no apps seem to be out of control. I'm wondering if a factory reset would fix the issue or if i should return it.
[Atrix 4G General] snlu178:
try going to your dialer and entering *#*#INFO#*#*

Look under the battery usage and check the different items. Is anything using a significant amount? it could be a rogue app.

I will say MotoBlur has a lot running in the background. About twice as much as vanilla android.

I have turned most of this off and I do know that is helping my battery life.
[Atrix 4G General] MotoAtrixFan:
You are right. had the phone for nearly 3 days and the battery life is what i had expected and more. Btw if you into digital LOMO photography like me (without spending money on films or development) this is a good phone to have around. I use this app called Vignette, the best toy camera for android IMO. I went on a half day hiking trip yesterday from the start of the trip to the end: with GPS Nav On, 30 mins driving to the trail, 2 hour 3.8 miles photo/hike, all the way. and back. Took about 300+ shots with the Atrix with geotag on, wifi and BT turned off. keep in mind the LCD screen is set auto that will go to full brightest when you use the device under direct sunlight. At the end of the trip, I had about 5% battery life remain in the phone. Pretty good for a phone that will last 300+ shots of photos with the screen on full brightness.
[Atrix 4G General] pavankvn:
I got 7 hours of display time this time.
[Atrix 4G General] jlai:
can you guys with the great battery life list what settings you guys are using? or if you're doing anything special to get this great battery life? I'm only getting around 12 hours a charge. maybe around 3-4 hours of screen time. I'm just curious if I have a defective one or not and wondering if I should bring mine back to ATT and try to exchange for a different model. any help on settings or battery savers would be awesome. thanks for the help in advance
[Atrix 4G General] goxxy:
Guess 3rd time is the charm. Until this point my battery has been horrible. I don't know what I did to make things work properly, but after my third factory reset the battery is lasting. Just hit 21% remaining with 4h50m of screen time.

Not sure what I've done to remedy the situation but it's the end of the day and I'm not ready to murder my phone...

:smug:
[Atrix 4G General] oFUNGUSo:
Brightness in lowest

GPS. Wifi and blue tooth off unless needed

Location off unless needed

No automatic sync of data. Nothing synca unless I open the specific program

And there s some phone power handling option I can't remember what's its called, but I have it set to night, or some such crap
[Atrix 4G General] oFUNGUSo:
Correction, phone is on maximum battery saver setting under battery manager
[Atrix 4G General] cegna09:
absolutely nothing special on my part. Brightness on auto, update intervals for weather all to 3 hours, two gmail accounts syncing in the background along with a facebook account, geolocation on (based on cell networks). Wifi, gps, bluetooth all off until needed. Battery is on the stock nighttime saver setting. No task managers, task killers, etc running at all.

These were the settings that got me about 36 hours with normal use this weekend. At work i'll stream pandora almost all day (average of 5 hours streaming), and that really cuts the battery life down, usually cuts the battery to about 30% by the time i leave for the day.
[Atrix 4G General] jlai:
thanks to you cegna09 and oFunguso for our response so soon. i just installed Green Power and thats helping my battery life but without it im only getting around 12 hours of battery life after having the phone for almost 3 weeks. are you guys rooted and freezing apps? I might just bring it in if you guys aren't like me cause thats a big difference in battery life
[Atrix 4G General] cegna09:
Rooted, and froze the motoblur home stuff, but nothing else. Just the bare minimum to get most of the stock home launcher hidden.

check your apps, some are poorly coded, and will destroy your battery by constantly using data. Most instant messaging apps are this way. For a while i was getting about 12 hours battery life, then went and cleaned out the phone. I got rid of all the apps that i really never used, and my battery life jumped, so at least one of them was wasting power. No idea which one.
[Atrix 4G General] madnav:
For Those who are not happy with battery life..

Apart from freezing MotoBlur.. you can do the following:

1. Set Plugin to 'On demand/disabled' from Browser > Settings.. (This will keep flash player off when not required or forever with respect to what you select)

2. Use custom battery Mode in Battery Manager, The Night Mode made my phone warn even at idle.

I'm coming from spica > zte blade > captivate > vibrant > atrix; and atrix is giving me the best battery backup with similar/heavier usage so far.
[Atrix 4G General] jlai:
thanks for the help guys. i havent rooted my phone yet as I was waiting til after the 30 day return period to do so but guess its bout that time to do so to freeze all the unnecessary apps. using green power as really helped the battery life by stopping the syncing so i think that was what was killing my battery. will try why you guys suggest to see if it will improve even more. thanks again
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
just from a technical standpoint... what part of a device could make it "defective" in that the battery life would suffer so much? i'm having a hard time convincing myself to exchange my device given how much i've already set it up and customized it, but I will only get around 12 hours of life with moderate usage.
[Atrix 4G General] Scoop3:
That's all I'm able to get as well... This is my second device.. I'm going to try a factory reset or two and see if that'll help at all... I WAS running juice-defender but pulled it off to see if there'd be any change... I definitely got better battery life, but even w/ it monitoring my phone I was only get like 14% w/ light to moderate usage...

I can't believe some people are able to pull 20+ hours of heavy use... seems impossible.

EDIT:

14% = 14Hrs...
[Atrix 4G General] Scoop3:
For example Today...

I've been at work all day.. autosync is on (one gmail account) I've checked the facebook app maybe 3 times... sent probably 15 texts, and made 1 short fone call (maybe 4 minutes) and I'm at 40%...

5h 40m since unplugged

Display 34%

voice calls 28%

phone idle 27%

cell standby 12%

Display time On is at 45mins...

Seems absolutely SAD compared to what others are reporting...

I've cycled my battery multiple times, and I've had this phone (2nd one.. first replaced due to poor battery life) for about 2 weeks... It is rooted... Any suggestions to improve the life of this POS?
[Atrix 4G General] jlai:
I don't know too much about batteries but even when I thought I was getting bad battery life, my performance is no where near as horrible as yours. I would definitely have yours checked out at Att or something. With only 45 mins of display time and the usage you stated you should definitely be higher than 40% imo, regardless of what settings you have. That is just my opinion I could be missing out on something.
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
see but i'm wondering, WHAT exactly is draining the battery on some of these apparently inefficient devices? sure you can take in to AT&T but the only thing they will do is replace your device; that doesn't diagnose the problem and in some cases like Scoop3's, doesn't fix anything. i'm an EE and really aside from a defective battery, if the phone is working properly I would have to think it's software or user related. but not matter what I try, my battery will NOT last more then 3/4 of a day. granted, i have a medium amount of apps, but I've tried to weed out unnecessary ones or ones that may be using data too much.
[Atrix 4G General] Scoop3:
I'm going to charge to capacity and then factory reset to see if I can get better results... Otherwise, i'm going to swap it out once again for another one...

It just doesn't make sense... I haven't done anything odd.. Rooted, most bloatware removed/frozen w/ Ti Backup... Not using motoblur... When i was using JuiceDefender I was getting much better battery life.. but that shouldn't be a requirement to get > 12 hrs...

Do you think its a defective battery? or device?

On a side note... should I unRoot before doing a factory reset?
[Atrix 4G General] Vangelis13:
Adding on that (because I assume you also froze the Home app?): should one "defrost" before a factory reset..?
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
just curious, what did apps did you freeze w/ TiBu?
[Atrix 4G General] Scoop3:
Basically the entire "Recommended List" and a few others from the "Comprehensive List"...
[Atrix 4G General] Vangelis13:
Ultimate freezing thread.. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=972459

:-)
[Atrix 4G General] Scoop3:
I Unfroze mine in preparation for the reset, but not sure if I need to unroot :D I did on my other Atrix, as I was returning it for another.. but I don't really want to if it's not necessary...
[Atrix 4G General] Vangelis13:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=972459
[Atrix 4G General] Vangelis13:
I asked the guys at the "freezing" thread earlier, no reply yet..
[Atrix 4G General] snlu178:
Vangelis saw your question. I have no answer. I would think not, but this early with a phone it's probably best if you take it back to stock for a reset until people know more.
[Atrix 4G General] Scoop3:
Then unroot I shall...
[Atrix 4G General] Vangelis13:
Cheers snlu178, I'll wait for a while. Btw, by "back to stock" you mean unfreeze apps or unRoot?

A general observation: using the live CPU monitor option on Watchdog it shows that AppBrain for some reason keeps using quite a bit of cpu; can anyone else see that?
[Atrix 4G General] menomena:
I've had my Atrix for a few weeks now, but I'm still getting poor battery life compared to most of you guys.

Stats at 1% battery life:

10h 33m

Display 2h 31m - 65%

Phone idle 8h 1m - 19%

Cell Standby 10h 33m - 10%

Wifi 6h 22m - 8%

You guys think I should exchange it? The display burns through the battery so fast. I just want to do whatever is best in the long run.

Also:

What are some free programs I can use to track battery life and see what apps are consuming power / keeping the processor running?

Thanks.
[Atrix 4G General] snlu178:
My thoughts are be safe, unfreeze and unroot.
[Atrix 4G General] Scoop3:
Just for the record. I did a hard reset (from the fastboot menu) without unrooting, and have had no ill effects thus far :D
[Atrix 4G General] mav3tan:
17h 46m since unplugged, batt @ 8% Played some games, browsing on 3G, Gmail, etc

from Spare Parts:

Running 4h 37m - 26%

Screen on 3h 49m - 21.5%

Phone on 51s - 0.1%

Wifi on 2h 9m - 12.2%

Wifi running 2h 9m - 12.1%

Here's my setup:

Screen brightness set to Auto

Nighttime saver mode (not sure if it makes any difference)

Rooted (have yet to deodex & freeze apps from /system)

Deleted bloatware from /data

Honestly I was expecting a longer battery life, but it's only been a few days since I have my phone. So hoping to see some improvement over time
[Atrix 4G General] acPIZZA:
I'm back on green power, and it is kicking ass for me. I figured out the trouble with my wifi/data not coming back on was because of widget locker - green power wasn't recognizing the phone was being unlocked. Since installing Gingerblur beta 5, and using his stock lock screen, green power has been working flawlessly. unplugged at 9pm last night with a full charge, still going strong right now at 1:33 pm with 80%. I have auto brightness on as well so I can see my screen in the daylight.
[Atrix 4G General] franciscojavierleon:
what does this green power do besides turning off wifi when you don't need it? i can turn it off myself. the website doesn't say how it handles mobile data. does it disable it altogether unless an app requires it? won't it actually be expensive to connect and disconnect each time?
[Atrix 4G General] Vangelis13:
What is "Gingerblur beta 5"..?
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
what do you mean by expensive to connect and disconnect? each time your device asks for data it's connecting. it's not like a dial-up connection where you connect and stay connected for X amount of time. otherwise you'd have constant streams of data.

green power turns off the data access portion of the mobile radio, but calls and texts still come through.
[Atrix 4G General] Scoop3:
I assume he means expensive as far as energy cost.
[Atrix 4G General] acPIZZA:
Yes, it turns off data and wifi when the phone is locked. It is much more comprehensive than that. You can set the timeout limits and time on limits. You can also set the signal threshold for connecting to data and wifi (ie, if the signal is too weak, don't keep trying to connect). It is a great app. Not many people need to be connected to data at all times, since calls and texts still come through normally. I have my email to alert me in the notification bar, blink the led, but not to vibrate or make any sound because I get too many emails every day to keep checking my phone every other minute. This way, when I take my phone out of my pocket and unlock it, everything comes through in a few seconds, and while it is in my pocket, I am saving battery.
[Atrix 4G General] acPIZZA:
Open up the Atrix Development Thread... It's actually in Beta 6 now as of today.
[Atrix 4G General] franciscojavierleon:
so it means it just disables the "background data" checkbox in the options while the phone is locked
[Atrix 4G General] fl13dl1c3:
That sounds like me almost. I'd get through the day, at about 18 hours but my screen time is about 2 hours or less. I'd say I use my phone moderately, with syncing on and some music. But relative to the screen time on I'm sorely disappointed. I went in to the att store and got a new battery, but as of the 2nd day it's faring even worse. I froze some apps accordingly too. It helped free up some RAM but battery life still sucks :/. Really dunno how everyone else is getting 4+ hours of screen time! Makes me reconsider returning the phone as I only have a few more days to make my decision.
[Atrix 4G General] Scoop3:
Okay.. an update to my situation... I did a hard reset, and have reinstalled most of what I was using... my battery life has basically trippled... I was at 60% yesterday after about 18 hours of use... light use, but id never have been able to achieve anything near that before... I think it had something to do with how I setup the fone.. I think somehow I caused a glitch of some sort ...

Anyway. If you're having battery troubles, kill your fone turn it off and charge it for a few hours before starting up and over again... worked great for me :)
[Atrix 4G General] Vangelis13:
To resume: you are rooted, the recommended apps are frozen & you did a factory reset? And everything works ok?

I guess by killing the phone you mean factory reset..?

Sorry for all q's, we have to get it right.
[Atrix 4G General] Scoop3:
Yeah :D I unfroze everything, and did a hard reset (from fastboot), turned the phone off, and charged it for 3 hours. Powered on and went w/ the stock everything (Except circle battery widget, and still being rooted)... When I got home, I unrooted via super one-click, and rerooted via aRoot... this will be day 2 :D

Battery is still looking promising. I wasn't really able to kill it yesterday, though I feel i probably should have. I have since gone through and reinstalled MOST of what I was using (TiBU, SQLite, Root Explorer, Angry Birds, etc.), and everything seems to be stable... I'm wondering if when I was trying different battery management systems, something got funked up somewhere... I was literally draining 10% / hour doing absolutely nothing... the fone was usually warm... Something was wrong =\

It's working much better right now!
[Atrix 4G General] kb5ynf:
Charge your Atrix Phones to 100% and Then Reset the Phone

I've had my Atrix since before it officially released. Like you guys, I was extremely disappointed with the battery life at first. But then I remembered that I've had similar issues with other phones in the past and a reset fixed it. Unfortunately, you have to reinstall everything after a reset but it's worth it.

Just curious, how many of you actually fully charged the phone before turning it on the first time? Hands? Anybody? That's what I thought! :D

I never do that but every phone I've ever bought recommended to charge it fully before turning it on. But who has the patience to wait for the phone to charge before playing with that new gadget?! Definitely not me!!!

Well, I should have followed the instructions with the Atrix, because by turning it on and using it when it only had a partial charge, I basically screwed up the battery life. Luckily, the damage isn't permanent. I don't claim to know why but my guess is the phone, either Blur or Android, has some sort of battery driver/management software that calibrates a full charge the first time you turn it on. If you haven't charged the phone, the threshold gets set incorrectly and the management piece shows your phone is discharging faster than it really is or something like that. That's my assumption anyway...

Regardless of why, if you charge your new phone to a full charge and then immediately do a hard reset (settings/privacy/factory data reset); you'll more than likely start to see much better performance out of your Atrix. I've seen this with other modern phones too. They should be smarter about this than they are because they can get a bad rap for something that should be easy to fix.

Anyway, I was initially only getting between 8 and 12 hours of use out of a single charge on my Atrix when I got it. After I did the reset, I'm now getting 36 hours or more of normal usage. I've yet to run it out of juice in a single day since resetting the phone and that includes sometimes watching movies via Dish Network for a couple of hours along with normal usage.

I went from being very frustrated with my new phone to absolutely loving it! I can confidently say it's the best phone I've ever had. My previous phone was a Nexus One by the way and I still have and like that phone as well. I especially like that it gets the new updates first. I'm hoping Motorola will role out updates as quickly as they have some others in the past.

By the way, I got great battery life from my N1 too. I read one of the earlier posts where someone was complaining about it. But I think I may have had to reset that phone too; don't really remember for certain. Maybe the next time I get a new phone, I can control my excitement long enough to fully charge it before turning it on so that I don't have to go through this again.

That's all I've got and I hope it helps some of you. I've also seen this topic on other forums and from what I can tell, the reset seems to help pretty much everybody.

Good luck!!!
[Atrix 4G General] TareX:
Wait, so should I turn it on, charge it to 100%, then reset it? Or should I charge it to 100% before turning it on?
[Atrix 4G General] Scoop3:
I would charge it for an hour or two AFTER it says 100% while it's OFF before turning it on.

Worked for me :D
[Atrix 4G General] kb5ynf:
Battery Reset

I'm no expert mind you but when I did mine, I let it run completely out of juice; until it shutdown and wouldn't power back on. Then I charged it overnight and reset it immediately after turning it back on. I've been happy with mine ever since.

Regards,

Jack
[Atrix 4G General] Meursau|t:
Is there a good way to back everything up before doing a hard reset? I'd prefer to not have to configure widgets and re-download apps, etc.
[Atrix 4G General] TareX:
That's the usual advice I hear, which is why I'm a bit confused by this new advice about charging it first to 100%.
[Atrix 4G General] jlai:
when you did a factory reset was a battery info swipe included in that? people say resetting the battery info is critical in recalibrating a battery. just curious if you did that or not or if that is included in a factory reset by default. also this may be a dumb question but when you factory reset your phones and need to reinstall the programs do they recharge you for apps? or do they know which ones you paid for and allow you to reinstall free of charge. thanks
[Atrix 4G General] trickyhenry:
My therory is that because the battery is huge 1900+ mah if you have 30% left that's the same as having 50% on another phone with smaller battery so actually your ok.

Im sure my maths is not accurate but you get the idea.