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[Xoom General] blozout:
Outside of the Wirefly unboxing video, I'm surprised that that none of the tech blogs (i.e. Phandroid, Gizmodo, Engadget, etc..) have been sent units for review prior to launch. I'm curious if this to avoid any potentially negative reviews?
[Xoom General] Xevilious:
I can't help but wonder if this is due to the fact that development is really coming down to the wire. It looks like the hardware has been done for a while, but both Honeycomb and Flash seem to be coming down to the last moment, and it looks like Flash was booted. I'm guessing that review units weren't sent to reviewers earlier was because the software wasn't as finalized as everyone wanted.

The Atrix, on the other hand, not only made it to reviewers early, but it was released early as well, so I don't think that Motorola is afraid of the media.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
It could be that, or it could be because Motorola is trying to get this thing out the door the INSTANT it is ready to get some initial sales in before the iPad2 is announced March 2.
[Xoom General] Bauxite:
You're not very smart if you think review sites haven't had the xoom for at least a week or more.

The release is tomorrow...expect the nda to expire tonight or tomorrow and reviews to pop up immediately after that.
[Xoom General] socomdark:
I agree and since the full Android 3.0 SDK has been released I think review units are on the way or soon on the way. I doubt the reviews have anything to do with Ipad2 coming up. I think the wifi model will probably be the answer and thats why I think that moto is holding out.
[Xoom General] djunio:
Im a part of the media base. Motorola's PR team told me that they don't have any review units yet. This has to be a first.
[Xoom General] blozout:
With regards to the last minute stuff, that's more or less what I was thinking. I suppose there is a chance we will some some reviews later this afternoon / this evening.

This whole launch really has been a debacle. Too many leaks and last minute omissions(no Flash)...just so much uncertainty and not in a positive way. Although the unlocked bootloader news is HUGE.

1 more day...1 more day.
[Xoom General] blozout:
Wouldn't you want positive reviews out a few days before to stir up buzz and jump start sales? As was mentioned above with the Atrix. Most tech stuff gets reviewed a few days before to generate positive headlines. Even Apple products get rerviewed early by Wall Mosspuppet and David Pogue...
[Xoom General] Bauxite:
Gearlive has a picture of thiers, they got it yesterday.
[Xoom General] blozout:
Not exactly where you would expect initial reviews to come from, lol. You'd think it would be from one of the big boys.
[Xoom General] blozout:
And looks it like it starts...

http://www.building43.com/videos/2011/02/23/motorola-xoom-review/

Google Alerts just sent me an email.
[Xoom General] djunio:
Haven't heard of them but I'll check. I haven't spoken with Motorola Mobility since Mon, I would contact them mow but what's the point?
[Xoom General] setite:
the review is pretty crappy..
[Xoom General] blozout:
totally, but it's the first.
[Xoom General] djunio:
+1, I wouldn't call it a review but he does give some pretty decent comparisons.
[Xoom General] socomdark:
Apps will probably be a deciding factor for a few months. Since android has taken off, app development has boomed and with how Apple is handling in-app subscriptions, I think we will see devs heading towards other platforms.
[Xoom General] Benkr0n:
i got to use a xoom for about 15 min today

ill give you my initial impressions

size is good, right where a tablet should be

it is heavy, enough to notice it

meaning the battery is good, it was on for almost two hours and at 77%

android 3.0 is awesome how its laid out

there is button on the left for tabs of running apps

on the right is any control / notification, much better than the shade

there is the redesigned market that is like the web version, so its much better

i use chrome on the computer, and it is now like that on 3.0 +++

and google video chat did work over 3G

it did degrade quality based on speeds but overall good

using it basically solidified me buying it tomorrow.
[Xoom General] djunio:
My GTablet get 10hrs of battery life easy. I would be shocked if the Xoom didn't as well.
[Xoom General] Diversion:
I wonder how fast heavy websites render compared to the iPad? I hate how slow it takes the iPad to fully load up a regular website like say, Engadget.. atleast 20-30 seconds! I'm hoping the Xoom feels more like a netbook, with a bit more snap and rendering speed. That would make web browser so much more fun and entertaining.
[Xoom General] Benkr0n:
yeah it's the most important thing of a tablet.

my main use would be browsing the web too...

when i used it, i had 5 tabs open and could easily jump between them quickly (and other apps)
[Xoom General] Bauxite:
http://www.freep.com/article/201102...Xoom-First-look-Android-s-hopeful-iPad-killer

This link seems to say that reviews may be out tonight...

If it's true that these tablets just arrived yesterday to reviewers however, blogs like engadget may take a bit longer to review. But maybe not as they have played with the OS a lot already.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
I think I figured out why they didn't want anyone to be able to review the Xoom.

IT HAS A 3250MAH BATTERY. Half the size of an iPad. Half the size of the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Half of the size of the LG G-Slate.

Battery life is going to be AWFUL on these things, especially compared to its competitors. If it does have acceptable battery life, then either Honeycomb is amazing and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and G-Slate are going to be capable of 20 hours of video playback, OR, Motorola made some major adjustments to the brightness of the display and other things to squeeze out as much battery life as possible out of this minuscule battery.
[Xoom General] schnoz:
Why would they do this? Did they honestly think this would be a good idea?
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Its not absolutely confirmed yet that they have, but wirefly AND Amazon list the battery at 3250mah. That is enough evidence for me until someone proves them wrong.
[Xoom General] schnoz:
Well, with those battery specs, i wonder how many people wont pick up their preorders tomorrow. Might as well wait for the galaxy 10.1
[Xoom General] Bauxite:
Told you guys, exactly 9pm, reviews are out:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/23/motorola-xoom-review/
[Xoom General] djunio:
Sounds believable
[Xoom General] Old MuckenMire:
From engadget's review:

"Battery life on the Xoom was excellent. Beyond excellent, actually -- some of the best performance we've seen. Running a video on loop with the screen set at 65 percent brightness, we were able to get playback for nearly eight and a half hours (8:20 to be exact). Motorola claims up to ten, so we weren't far off the mark at all. We had a few background tasks going on, and both WiFi and 3G radios were active. We could easily see maximizing this if you're in airplane mode with a slightly lower brightness setting."

sounding better...
[Xoom General] familiarstranger:
My G-tab is a 3650 Mah battery and I get between 7 and 9 with full brightness. wifi always on. just a bit of perspective
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Yea, I dont know if Honeycomb is magic or something, but if they pulled that off with a 3250mah battery, then that is amazing.
[Xoom General] djunio:
+1 I get around 10 hrs of use, sometimes way more.
[Xoom General] Eclair~:
Android community says this about the battery:
[Xoom General] socomdark:
its a pretty lengthy review too. going to start reading it now
[Xoom General] Xevilious:
Even though Engadget only gave it a 7/10, it seemed like most of their issues were on the software rather than hardware side. This is good. They conclude with:

Bolding is mine.

So basically what we have here is a Google experience device, which has been rushed to market, but the hardware is solid. I'm ok with that. The Xoom will likely get updates faster than many other upcoming tablets, and if Motorola finks on the updates, the fact that it's got an unlocked bootloader tells me that the community will likely pick up the slack.

I'm perfectly ok with this.

I think I might pick one of these up tomorrow... I think.
[Xoom General] Bauxite:
Don't worry about the engadget score, if it doesn't have an apple logo it can't score well.
[Xoom General] albundy2010:
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[Xoom General] Eclair~:
Stop. Please.

Engadget has given Android devices good scores in the past, as much as we Android fans want to believe -- they are not always biased asses that bash any product without an Apple logo.

The iPad, however, will receive a 8, 9 or 10.. but I'm going to assume that it will actually deserve this score.
[Xoom General] harajuka:
Wired has reviewed it... Only a score of 6 though..

http://www.wired.com/reviews/2011/02/motorola-xoom/2/
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Yea, the whole button situation is very weird on the Xoom. And who decided to put the speakers on the back?
[Xoom General] setite:
The tablet is rushed. I like rushed gadgets. I have been waiting for an android tablet since the iPad release.
[Xoom General] silverwolf0:
You might regret a rushed gadget once you get your hands on it and find out something is broken from the start, or will eventually break...talking about hardware.

I think the Engadget review was rightly critical about the things they found wrong. If Google is trying to rope in the casual users and the mom-and-pop market, which is really the whole point of an all-touch keyboardless slate, it has to shed some of its weird design quirks and not rush things to market, which is basically what the xoom is. Enthusiasts will not mind the beta tag and live for the next update, but most people just want it to work correctly right out of the box.

One big issue I have with Honeycomb that the reviews haven't really addressed is that the whole TRON aesthetic can be very off-putting. It is sci-fi nerdtastic, and most reviewers are nerds in some capacity or another, but I find it to be really corny, like an LED neon-drenched gaming tower.

The disabled microSD and something about a USB host problem I'm hearing that requires a future google update to enable? Really? There's plenty of other fun stuff and kinks to get ironed out on a 0.9beta release. I'm waiting for the Galaxy tab 10.1 to see how 1.0 software and hardware fares.

And no, Engadget is not appletastic. They say the same thing about Gizmodo, its rival, yet Gizmodo is always the first in line to bash at the slightest negative apple rumor, so people will find any dumb reason to discredit websites because they themselves hate apple.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Yea, that makes a lot of sense.
[Xoom General] muyoso:
Don't forget that its confirmed now on the VZW page that this has a 3250mah battery while the Galaxy Tab 10.1 will have a 6860mah battery. Also, the buttons are placed in stupid places and apparently can get stuck like engadget had happen as well as the speakers being misplaced and underwhelming. Sounds awesome.
[Xoom General] blozout:
It's really not that good of a review. You don't learn much about what the tablet can do, it's more so about the glitches and minor annoyances that keep it from being great. On the other hand, the Slashgear review, while unprofessional, showed me a lot more about the Xoom and it's features. I definitely learned more about the tablet than from the other reviews. I recommend checking it out:

http://www.slashgear.com/motorola-xoom-review-23135670/
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dante04SRT:
I currently have Andromeda 1.2 on my Cappy and am really happy with it. I've been thinking of upgrading to 2.2 when it comes out tomorrow just to see how it functions - Then, go back to Andromeda.

Basically, I know how to use ODIN to flash the phone, but I always hear about disabling LagFix and some other programs before flashing to stock. Can anyone give me some pointers? Is there anymore to it then just using Odin to reflash (Download mode)?

Any help would be great.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jemack:
Disabling lagfix is for when you are not flashing back to stock, ie. from cog to phoenix. If you are using odin there is no need to disable lagfix.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clemmie:
You will probably have to use Odin 1-click and Master Clear, but make sure to do a backup a la Titanium Backup and store it on your desktop. Then you can Flash back to stock after Master Clearing. I had a lot of trouble getting back to stock after unlagfixing; to make a long story short just Master clear and save yourself a lot of trouble.

After that I was able to reroot and restore my TiBu backup onto the stock Froyo. There is even already a stock 2.2 Captivate kernel with Voodoo lagfix injected, which has been giving me great lag-free performance, battery life and stability that can't be found in I9000 kernels.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FreddieP:
Between 2.2 based ROMs I've been returning to stock via Odin 1-click without master clearing. Am I rolling the dice on having problems?

Is Cognition the stock 2.2 + Voodoo ROM you mention?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whiteguypl:
You dont need to flash to stock every time. 99% of the time its just an absolute waste of your time as the rom your flashing "should" be wiping everything out anyway.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FreddieP:
So could I simply be flashing from ROM to ROM w/o attaching to my PC at all? Would it be lower risk if I was staying w/ the same family of SGS based ROM (I9000)?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dante04SRT:
I am a bit apprehensive using Oneclick with a 1012 build phone. I've been told to ONLY use Odin3, which has no master clear.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whiteguypl:
That is what i do. Almost all of the captivate roms in the captivate forum are proven safe for our phone. If you dont know for sure ask in the thread, someone will answer you.

DONT use odin one-click with 1012.. DO NOT, bad bad bad. And dont listen to anyone that tells you otherwise...
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dante04SRT:
I plan on using the Odin3 (NOT oneclick), but will it do a master clear?

...and to confirm - I don't have to do ANYTHING special to flash back to stock? I don't have to turn off any apps/features? Just simply open Odin, get the phone to download mode and reflash??
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whiteguypl:
I generally disable any lagfix I have before I flash, some dont. Don't take my word for it. Read until you are comfortable doing it.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dante04SRT:
So basically the process is as simple as:

Just simply open Odin, get the phone to download mode and reflash??
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whiteguypl:
Yes. Most everything you could ever need to know about Odin is in he Odin thread.
[Captivate General] iwantatransam:
So... I heard that AT&t will be updating phones to Froyo tomorrow Feb 24th. How would I go about removing the beta samsung rom I installed back in October? or should I just wait till the new rom hits the web and apply that?

Obviously I'm pretty new to all this.
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
Someone will package it into a cwm .zip for people who love bloat and such.

Sent from my Captivate.
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
That was not a beta. It was a leaked ROM that devs in here used as a base. You will need to Odin back to stock, but there's some confusion right now as to whether the Froyo release tomorrow will be OTA or via Kies. If it is OTA and you do an Odin you will not be able to get it. I would wait right now and start reading up on the process before you do something that might brick your phone. Start with the tutorials in the Stickies at the top of this forum.
[Captivate General] qwertyaas:
Haha, so true. Some are so eager to use this bloat and gimped ATT rom...
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
ROMs can not be uninstalled. You have to flash a new ROM. You have two choices:

1. Use the leaked UCKB1, by all means this seems to be the official release tomorrow, and flash it using ODIN3. Make sure you do a factory reset afterwards.

2. Use the ODIN OneClick to flash back to orginal JF6 stock firmware and wait for official release to upgrade.
[G Tablet General] yourtravelboy:
I've looked through every thread and searched every possible config here for Google Voice without success in finding anything about it, so here I am.

I would like to use Google Voice SMS feature on my G-tablet. Currently it requires a mobile phone number to register the device. Given the Gtablet doesn't have a SIM card slot, there's no way to connect and register the device with GV. Has anyone found a workaround yet? Am I missing some common knowledge about how to trick it? Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
[G Tablet General] ddarvish:
i just downloaded it from the market and logged in using my gmail account (already signed up for GV) and it just worked. i didnt have to do anything special
[G Tablet General] anjenaire:
Searched Terms: SMS Google Voice

Try these threads:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=870890&highlight=SMS+Google+Voice

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=908967&highlight=SMS+Google+Voice
[G Tablet General] yourtravelboy:
Lol, sorry. Google Voice just locks up on the final step after "skipping" setting up voicemail. I figure that happened to every. I guess it's just me. I stand corrected :/
[G Tablet General] cjackxiii:
It still works. After it locks up hit the home button and go to your contact app. Choose one of your contacts to sms. This will open up google voice and give you future access to your google voice inbox.
[G Tablet General] anjenaire:
be sure to have latest GV app

You'll need to be sure you have the latest Google Voice application, version 0.4.2.13. The one that initially is on the machine (or in VeganTab in my case) is not the latest. It also can sometimes be hard to find in the market (I had to do the fix several times to find the latest). After that I was able to get SMS to work using Google Voice (in fact now with sipdroid, I can make a receive telephone calls as well -- barely ;) so it will work).

Hang in there, keep trying, it does work.
[Nook Color General] bartonkt:
Running the 2nd release of the customized v4 honeycomb release, with reformatted EXT file system. The first release worked fine on my corporate network, but I'm having issues getting this one to connect.

Anyone else having issues with the wifi in this version? I'm attempting to connect to a WEP 802.11x network, using TTLS & PAP. Tried hand editing the wpa_supplicant.conf file in /data/misc/wifi, and it looks fine - yet under Wifi general setttings in Honeycomb it always shows "connecting..." and can't log on.
[Nook Color General] samuelhalff:
Try rebooting your router..

EDIT: router, sorry.
[Nook Color General] bartonkt:
Not sure what you mean when you say "rooter". I've rebooted the Nook a few times to no avail. If by rooter you mean the router here at work, I unfortunately don't have access to that. I work in a large 1500+ employee building.

Offhand, there shouldn't be a difference in wifi capability between v1 and v2

edit: some Logcat output

D/WifiStateMachine( 900): setDetailed state, old =CONNECTING and new state=DISCONNECTED

I/wpa_supplicant( 1767): CTRL-EVENT-STATE-CHANGE id=0 state=2

V/WifiMonitor( 900): Event [CTRL-EVENT-STATE-CHANGE id=0 state=2]

D/WifiStateMachine( 900): setDetailed state, old =DISCONNECTED and new state=SCANNING

I/wpa_supplicant( 1767): CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS Ready

I/wpa_supplicant( 1767): Trying to associate with 00:19:07:c6:f3:e0 (SSID='cuda160' freq=2437 MHz)

V/WifiMonitor( 900): Event [Trying to associate with 00:19:07:c6:f3:e0 (SSID='cuda160' freq=2437 MHz)]

I/wpa_supplicant( 1767): CTRL-EVENT-STATE-CHANGE id=0 state=3

V/WifiMonitor( 900): Event [CTRL-EVENT-STATE-CHANGE id=0 state=3]

D/WifiStateMachine( 900): setDetailed state, old =SCANNING and new state=CONNECTING

I/wpa_supplicant( 1767): Authentication with 00:19:07:c6:f3:e0 timed out.

I/wpa_supplicant( 1767): CTRL-EVENT-STATE-CHANGE id=0 state=0

I/wpa_supplicant( 1767): CTRL-EVENT-STATE-CHANGE id=-1 state=2

V/WifiMonitor( 900): Event [Authentication with 00:19:07:c6:f3:e0 timed out.]

V/WifiMonitor( 900): Event [CTRL-EVENT-STATE-CHANGE id=0 state=0]

D/WifiStateMachine( 900): setDetailed state, old =CONNECTING and new state=DISCONNECTED

V/WifiMonitor( 900): Event [CTRL-EVENT-STATE-CHANGE id=-1 state=2]

D/WifiStateMachine( 900): setDetailed state, old =DISCONNECTED and new state=SCANNING
[Nook Color General] Toys Samurai:
I flashed it, but only used it for a couple minutes. Wifi was working, even in adhoc mode. But many apps I want to use don't work (they do in v1), so I switched back to v1.
[Captivate General] SeanHacker:
hERE YA GO DUDE,
[Captivate General] SeanHacker:
rom FOR YA!!!
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
Attachment FAIL!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sgtagem:
Did you get my PM lol saw you in the other forum.

try to do a factory reset on the phone from the recovery menu. if anything, reflash your rom or pick a new one. I had this issue with a few mods/roms/kernals aswel.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] defyuk:
i sent you a pm too. thanks for being so quick to reply. but i dont know how to do that stuff im a noob this is my first androidsmartphone ever but im a very quick learner
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sgtagem:
all good. For my phone. ( droid incred.) when the phone is off i hold power and the volume up key. then i select recovery using the volume keys. I know the buttons to push are different on some phones so you might neeed to use google to find the right 2 keys to hold down while booting
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] defyuk:
i currently have it in boot loader mode, it says battery ok, ok to program, transfer mode, usb. and thats all it says. no recovery options at all
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sgtagem:
Ok, found this in another forum. this is how to get into your boot menu i guess:

The boot menu happends when you press the volume down key and the power button.

When it takes you to the triangle part press the volume up key and the power button this action brings up another menu on which you can reboot and other settings.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] defyuk:
the first triangle with exclamation mark inside it with the lil andorid man comes up, but the second menu doesnt, im holding vol down and power to get up this image, the to get second one you say to do vol up and power...i tried it, held it for a while but still no joy
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sgtagem:
ok, give this a try

"If you swipe the bottom right corner when you see the triangle you will get a menu. From there you can reboot or reset"

Still looking for more
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] defyuk:
nope sorry still dont work. i really appreciate you spending your time doing this it realy does mean ALOT. thank you i hope the solution isnt far away!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sgtagem:
Ok, this is from the t-moble forms:

One suggestion...

Pull the battery.

Hold down the volume down key and press the power button.

Continue to hold the volume down key until you seem something happening on the screen.

This should boot you into recovery mode, you'll see a little green Android stood next to a yellow warning sign.

Press the bottom-right corner of the screen, a menu should appear.

Use the volume keys to scroll up and down.

Scroll to 'Wipe DATA/factory reset' and press 'ok' (bottom-left of screen) - you may need to re-confirm in a sub-menu.

After the wipe completes, scroll to the 'reboot' option and press 'ok'.

If you do that, you completely wipe the handset, same as if you performed a full factory reset on the handset.

Obviously, this will get rid of anything you have on the handset but if your only other option is an exchange, you've nothing to lose really.