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[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FP5241:
I wonder if I will be able to upgrade early.

I don't get my new every 2 upgrade for another 6 months according to the VZW website, however they offered me the immediate iPhone upgrade. I hope I (primary line) would be able to get a TB as well.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenyu73:
The website, I'm pretty sure, doesn't show you your primary line 12 month annual upgrade. Its there tho... every 12 months the primary line, on a multi-line plan, can upgrade at contract price.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Whetzel:
I thought I read somewhere that they're (Verizon) doing away with the 12 month upgrade option for the primary line now too.

From what I understand, even primary line holders will have to wait 20 months to upgrade at the contract price. That is of course people who signed up for a new contract after (I think) February 10th.

I could be wrong (and I hope I am), but that's what I read.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenyu73:
All the old policies are in effect for contracts done before this new change (Feb, January, whenever) so I think this person is good to go.

I know the extra $50 for the primary line was canned. It could be that the 1 year renew was too, but most people should be able it hit that benefit up one last time if it is true.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmcclure937:
Is this still the case? I would like to know if the primary line of a multi-line family plan is eligible to upgrade at contract price every 12 months. I was planning to get a 1 year contract on my primary line but will scrap this idea if the primary line is already eligible for upgrade every 12 months.

Thank You!

(what is the benefit of 1yr vs 2yr contract for the primary line of a family plan?)
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] two_cents:
bestbuy does not discount the extra $50 for new every 2 since thats a vzw promotion... if you want the extra 50 off you will need to purchase from verizon... but if I can get the extra 50 off from vzw without waiting I'm going to use the 50 gift card to buy a case and screen protector and stuff... also if the bestbuy free buyback is still in effect when the phone is released I'll go to bestbuy so I get some return in investment when I go to get a new phone
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmcclure937:
I just chatted with Verizon Customer Support and inquired about the 12 month upgrade timeframe for the primary line of a multi-line contract.

This is still in effect and holds true. So much for needing to sign a 1 yr contract on that line :D
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmcclure937:
UPDATE: the info regarding 12 month updates for the primary line is false. I spoke with another CSR and this was dropped along with the NE2.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spjoneser:
Bummer! Coolest thing I didn't know that doesn't matter anymore?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Philosophre:
I am the primary line of a family plan. I didn't realize the "new every two" was affected by being a primary or secondary on a family plan.

This is what it says on my verizon account.

"You Are Eligible For An Upgrade on: 6/26/11 Your contract end date is 10/26/11"

So it seems like the most I can get from the Verizon "New every Two" in June when I am eligible. I assume that the discount is in affect at that time, but as of now Verizon says I can upgrade but without the benefits of "New every Two".

At first I thought I may get $100 off verizon phones if I wait til June. Now it seems it is $50.

For BestBuy, the only benefit is getting the phone early because I had to Pay for the $50 giftcard, so the phone will still cost me $250 + california tax. I never heard of Bestbuy giving me a discount because of whatever is going on with me and verizon.

Is what I just said accurate? If so I might as well get the tbolt from verizon if it is only $50 saved if I wait til june. If it is $100 saved, I might just wait.

Also nobody mentioned if the availability of this phone will be like the evo aka small production count so I may not even get the phone in june because they have to go into production for it once again.

Adding more info:

I was going through the motions of upgrading my plan and verizon shows me that I have an online discount of $50 for old phones such as droid x and blackberry bold. The fascinate has no discount except the re-certified one. So the "new every two" means nothing if i am aiming to get the tbolt?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Robertus:
Two Verizon reps told me that Best Buy can give me the $50 New Every Two discount. Of course, they could be wrong, as sales and customer service reps frequently are, but when they told me this, I documented who told me this and when. If they were wrong, Verizon will typically credit my account. They have always been very good about this kind of thing for me as I am a long term customer.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frank s:
NE2 has always only been available for the primary line on a Family plan or the only line on a single line. Never for additional lines on the same Family plan.

You're right, basically. What you have to realize is, first, VZW has discontinued the NE2 program and the early upgrade (a.k.a. annual upgrade) starting with new plans. But if you have already earned the NE2 and the early upgrade based on your old plan, you are still entitled to use them for one last time. In your case, not until after your NE2 date shown on the website, in June of 2011, can you use the NE2. The "early upgrade" at "2yr new contract" subsidized prices can be used if you want to upgrade prior to your NE2 date.

After you enter into your next contract, both the early upgrade and the NE2, you will not have next time. They are the ones that have been discontinued on new plans.

As for Best Buy... the only thing your gift cert does for you is, well, it's a gift cert. Not really TBolt specific anyhow. Just a come-on to get you into the store and get a $50 sale out of you. You can use it for the TBolt, or something else. Doesn't matter.

The potentially really good thing about Best Buy is their "Buy-Back" program. It usually costs $60 for mobile phones to get this buy-back protection. But, until the 26th of Feb it is free. So... if the TBolt comes out by the 26th you can enroll in this buy-back program for free (i.e. sell them the phone back at 50 percent of full retail in 6 months (approx $375 - depending on BB's full retail price), 40 percent in 12 months, and keeps going down the longer you keep it. This buy-back is based on full retail, even if you pay substantially less due to contract incentives (i.e. $249 with a 2yr contract).

This Best Buy buy-back program is much like Verizon's "old" early upgrade program, which will be defunct with your new plan.

'Course, it's now looking like the release won't make it by the 26th, so maybe this is a moot point. If it does make it by the 26th, Best Buy is definitely where I'm gonna get mine.

-Frank
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Philosophre:
Ugh. I just called and if I wait til june which would be my 2yr mark I would only be receiving a $30 discount.

Looks like I'll be grabbing the phone from Bestbuy asap unless the delay is reasonably near june.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frank s:
Yeah, ever since they reduced the NE2 benefit from $100 to the lower amounts ($50 and/or $30 - depending on plan cost) the NE2 is hardly worth waiting more than a couple of weeks for.

Also, according to the above, 6/26/11 is your New Every 2 date - not your "2 yr point". NE2 comes after 20 months rather than 24 months.

-Frank
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Philosophre:
yea, i misspoke. the october would be my 2yr mark.

i better enjoy my eris now before the time to change comes.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] two_cents:
even if its released after the 26th I'm sure I can make them throw it in cause I preordered the phone a month ago... or I can just walk across the street and get the extra 50 from my new every 2 at verizon
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frank s:
I disused this free buy-back and pre-order thing specifically with my local Best Buy. They told me, for sure, that pre-orders do not count for this free buy-back promotion. They told me that you had to actually purchase the device before it would count. Otherwise, I too would have pre-ordered just to get the free buy-back deal.

-Frank
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kitteh298:
I want to go to eb13 but i want all my junk... im on dk28 right now. can i use cwm and backup all my stuff and then update to eb13 then restore data? it worked when i did a reset but this is a new firmware so...?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Top Nurse:
Restoring data across different firmware's is risky. However, EB13 doesn't look too much different than DK28 so you pay your money and take your chances...
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kitteh298:
what could go wrong? brick of some sort? software problems?

haha 69th post
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kitteh298:
anyone got insight? what would happen?

i guess i could just try it and if things get effed up i can always go back to my backup in cwm right?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MaxPatlick:
yea pretty much. Do it. be my guinea pig and let me know how it works out for you ;)

Worst case scenario you spend a bunch of time getting back to exactly where you are now.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazyart:
Get Titanium Backup.

Backup all your apps and data.

Flash, root, then reinstall TB.

Restore.

I prefer this to CWM, but it's good to have both...
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krazypinz05:
I'm in the same boat with apps and stuff
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kitteh298:
i got some kind of hacked titanium backup but i did it once and it didnt restore everything. like some apps were missing and crap. :mad:
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DiGi760:
You may get glitches and force closes. You won't brick your phone. I've seen some weird issues traced down to restoring /data across different frameworks and builds, but I carried my /data from di18->dj29->dk05->dk17->dk28 without a major problem. I haven't tried it with eb13, but I'm sure it will still be hit or miss for people. If all else fails, just start over without restoring /data. It can be a pain, but it only takes a day or two to set everything up again.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dman10:
I tried to back up and update to EB13 this morning, and after I updated and attempted to restore, I was without my phone for the day. I needed to go back to DK28 to restore all of my junk. I'll probably just use Titanium this time around, so no, don't try to back up, then upgrade to EB13, and then restore your backup, it doesn't work.
[Galaxy Tab General] n2s2k2india:
Have you tried transliteration on Grab? Google offers tools to do this for example in Gmail or in Google services, but it doesn't seem to work, the window opens and I can choose the language yet the keyboard doesn't come up. It would be useful to make this possible. For example when I type namaste, it outputs नमस्ते. Any workarounds?
[Atrix 4G General] uskr:
I've been searching for "Atrix" all day on Bestbuy website.

And everytime it didnt return anything.

Just now I did it again. And it didn't return the link for the phone, but it returned a bestbuy ad with the text below and a photo of the Atrix. The add also comes with a currently broken URL that I cannot post here since I am new:

"Motorola ATRIX 4G

Powerful new smart phone features a dual-core processor, 1GB of RAM, a unique webtop application, qHD display, and Adobe Flash Player. Connects to an optional laptop dock (coming soon) with 11.6" screen and full-size keyboard."

The link is currently broken. But if I had to guess, I would say Bestbuy will have it available pretty soon (maybe even tomorrow?).
[Atrix 4G General] zizo79:
I don't see it anywhere...

NVM: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Motorola+-+Atrix+Mobile+Phone+-+Black+%28AT%26T%29/1800355.p?skuId=1800355&id=1218292464161
[Atrix 4G General] SS2006:
It shows up

but you can click it it gives page error

i hope it sunlocked (off contract)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avrtheman:
Hi, please help I was messimg around in the recovery menu and some how I wiped the whole Htc clean. There is no os. I tried for a few weeks now but cant get any help on how to install a os. Everytime I try to install rom or origenal os it says aborted.

Any help will be great.

Thank you.

PS the phone wont sync.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vr5411:
If you wiped os, then there is no os and appl to sync against.

Few weeks? !

Go to Shipped roms. Htc Desire is Bravo. Find PB99IMG image you want to use. I would choose:

PB99IMG_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2_29_405_2_Radio_32_49_00_32U_5_11_05_27_release_151783_signed.zip

Then boot into recovery (power+back keys at the same time).

Then map sd card as usb and copy above file then rename it as PB99IMG.zip

Unmount sd. Take battery out, put it back and just press power.

Waitt until all is loaded and phone restart.........
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vr5411:
If you have no custom recovery put sd card into reader and copy zip.

If more help needed, ask! !
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avrtheman:
Thank you all for the help will try now.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avrtheman:
Then map sd card as usb and copy above file then rename it as PB99IMG.zip

How do I do that? Im dumb with these things.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avrtheman:
No joy. It says.

CID incorrect

Update fail.

????
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikep99:
That means the RUU you tried needs a goldcard to enable you to flash it.

What ROM did your phone originally come with? Is it branded?
[EVO Shift 4G General] EmptyCloud:
Hello I'm trying to compile the stock shift kernel speedy-2.6.32 at http://developer.htc.com/ and I'm having a bit of trouble. I extracted just fine, disabled the performance lock and set the governor to conservative, but when I use make, I get the following error:

root@ubuntu:/kernel# make
CHK include/linux/version.h
Generating include/asm-arm/mach-types.h
Unrecognized option: -f
Could not create the Java virtual machine.
make[1]: *** [include/asm-arm/mach-types.h] Error 1
make: *** [maketools] Error 2

I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 in VMware and using arm-2010q1-202-arm-none-linux-gnueabi. Any help really appreciated as I stumped :confused: Thanks

Edit: Fixed my error, and the next 30 that came after. Finally have a working version of stock that I compiled as a test run :)

Also, I would appreciate some tips on setting the screen off max/min frequencies in the kernel, and undervolting :)
[Android Software Development] metalizer2000:
after search around the web ,finally i found SPB Mobile Shell for android,install must from titatium backup because data file must be include otherwise it will get FC

but the problem is spb mobile shell will ask for activation and we unable to run it,but trust me its the real spb moble shell for android

maybe somebody can try this and can make it usable for us.

link

copy folder TitaniumBackup to sdcard

and install through titanium backup batch restore

thank button if you don't mind :D
[Android Software Development] the_scotsman:
Posting links to unreleased copyright applications violates xda rules.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rumy:
Hi,

So I have been reading and searching everywhere and nowhere was I able to find an answer to my question.

Does the Telus desire HD have the same SuperLCD as the Inspire 4G?

Also, people who have moved from their Samsung Galaxy S (SuperAMOLED) how are you liking the switch?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sromer:
All Desire HD's have Super LCD screens
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] AngelDeath:
Greets All,

I need some help. I just installed VirtualBox on my system and then installed Ubuntu, the reason is I am trying to uncompress a kernel, fairly old one. Now before anyone asks, I am trying to look for the bluetooth mac address problem, as we all know its still generic. But I found a kernel that its either real or unique, either way it works, but the kernel is incompatable with Nand/zip roms. I tried to go to the dev that made the kernel, and got no response for a month now, so I am trying to see if I can find it and fix it with my limited understanding.

I have done searches for how to do it, and even found commands on google, but for some reason its not spitting out the results as the sites say it should, so I am hoping someone can tell me, or give me step by step instructions on how to decompress this kernel.

All the commands are from terminal mode, and I even had found a script on here that suppose to do it, but I cant get it to run right. So if anyone can help me, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] AngelDeath:
Really? No one can help with this? Does everyone like the generic Bluetooth Mac Address?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] white-energy:
I'd really like to know this too :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] AngelDeath:
Well if someone would help me with the commands, myabe I can find how to impliment it into a zip/nand kernel and be done with this dumb generic.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dameon87:
This kernel works with on EB13 with both RFS and EXT4.

This is a PROPER release of the kernel, as it includes the new initramfs changes from EB13.

Here you are:

http://efragtv.com/android/EB13-DUALFS-KERNEL.zip

FOR DEVELOPERS:

Initramfs: http://efragtv.com/android/EB13-initramfs.zip
[Epic 4G Android Development] maldito.boss:
Thanks sir was waitin for this
[Epic 4G Android Development] DevinXtreme:
Can confirm it's working. :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dameon87:
Added initramfs source.
[Epic 4G Android Development] huytrang90:
Tks
[Epic 4G Android Development] dmbatson:
sorry once again for the noob questions..

but does this mean zips that are edify like a battery mod or AOSP lockscreen are flashable?

:confused:
[Epic 4G Android Development] abmcbride85:
Dameon you are the man...
[Epic 4G Android Development] brian2220:
it means it works with cwm3
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
Just so I'm clear do u flash this when u do the cwm3 1 click root then flash the kernal or do u flash the kernal then do the 1 click root cwm3?
[Epic 4G Android Development] bender beerman:
beyond rad!
[Epic 4G Android Development] dmbatson:
Thanks!

cant wait for the new Quantum Rom by the Way!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Auramaster:
Can we flash this Kernel on CWM3 & then flashed the De-oxidized pre-rooted rom?

If not, how do we make it work on EXT4?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ecooce:
Thanks Dameon... I can't imagine why we still want to support RFS,since you were the big backer of EXT4 in the beggining,and we have all proved it safe. Just want to see the kernel as clean as possible... And I can't wait to see you put out an OC/UV kernel.

Sent from stock EB13...
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Anyone know how we use this kernel to change to ext4?

Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] abmcbride85:
use the one click here. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=897612

this changes to ext4. this kernel just supports it with the eb13 release.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
So do u have to do the 1 click root v.2.5.x install the kernal then do the 1 click root cwm3? I'm just confused a bit.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tetshi:
Didn't work for me. Shows the stock "Android" logo flashing over the boot animation and then the phone freezes and keeps soft-resetting. Followed the directions to a T, guess it just doesn't like me. :(
[Epic 4G Android Development] abmcbride85:
no use the one click root from the link i provided. it will install cwm 3 once you reboot and convert everything to ext4 automatically. then all you do is flas the kernel.
[Epic 4G Android Development] strauss0829:
Team Viper has been using that for OC/UV ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Anyone got this working on eb13 with ext4?

Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] endurance1:
everything seems to be working, im on ext4 and flashed that kernal, however, when my phone loaded up, there was a android picture flashing all over the screen when it says galaxy s.... anyone know whats up with this?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ashtro:
after i flashed and reflashed the kernel...and then reboot the phone it gets to the home screen after "android" flashes a bunch but as soon as i do any thing my phone vibrates a bunch of times and keeps kinda doing a loop or whatever with that "android" logo...
[Epic 4G Android Development] showmrock:
same here....I can never get it to boot properly...even odin'd it back and tried it again and no luck
[Epic 4G Android Development] endurance1:
mine works fine, i just got this ugly logo when booting. but everything else seems to work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dameon87:
The ugly logo is because the kernel supports boot animations. Another helper for rom devs.
[Epic 4G Android Development] endurance1:
oh ok :D i dont care what the boot looks like, i just thought something was wrong. but sounds good to me, i got everything working...
[Epic 4G Android Development] blspyro:
i too am having problems with ext4 comptability with eb13 kernels.....hopefully somebody releases a better solution soon.

PyRo
[Epic 4G Android Development] djstr0be:
Is there an zip I could flash to go back to RFS? I followed each step exactly and Im getting the flashing android bootloop..When I try to restore the "before ext4" backup CWM is telling me theres a MD5 mismatch. I never touched that file so I have no idea why its doing that..Please let me know!
[Epic 4G Android Development] showmrock:
Solved the issue regarding looping animation hang

Heres how I got it to work:

1)Odin Eb13 using .exe

2)Root using CWM 2.5

3)Flash Deoxidized EB13 http://efragtv.com/android/EB13-stock-deodex-signed.zip

4)Place Dual Filesystem Kernel on SDCARD http://efragtv.com/android/EB13-DUALFS-KERNEL.zip

5)Root using CWM 3.0.6 and reboot so filesystem can convert to Ext4

6)Flash Kernel that you placed on SD Card (during step 4)

Done!.....boots up with no hang...I know its a lot of steps but its the only thing that worked for me.
[Epic 4G Android Development] danasmith2816:
Is this basically the same kernel as the Genocide from Viper??
[Epic 4G Android Development] jjjjayd13:
Yeah, but updated!
[Epic 4G Android Development] vrojas25:
if use cwm3 do i have to flash (step 3)
[Epic 4G Android Development] ptfdmedic:
Dameon,

Does this kernel support custom bootanimations? Thanks again for being on top of this for everyone.
[Epic 4G Android Development] J3COMPUTERSERVICES:
thank you! working fine for me...
[Epic 4G Android Development] dnathan13:
Yes it does. He said that is the reason the android is showing up all over when you boot up. He was showing custom bootanimations are possible.
[Epic 4G Android Development] sprice5:
Worked perfect for me. Thanks Dameon.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Death259:
From what I understand it does.

Whoops my bad already answered two posts back.
[Epic 4G Android Development] danasmith2816:
I know ya'll said this was the same as the Genocide kernel, but updated. I notice the genocide kernel will let me run at 1,200 but with this kernel the setcpu shows a max of 1,000. is this correct and can i still run the Genocide with the overclock but just not have ext4 support?
[Epic 4G Android Development] spdwiz18:
this is what iv been waiting for bootanis yay. thanks you the man

update: FLAWLESS install
[Epic 4G Android Development] dnathan13:
This kernel is not the same as genocide. This is the standard kernel from samsung just with ext4 support.
[Epic 4G Android Development] globalninja:
I wish I could give thanks via tapatalk!

Sent from my Epic 4g.
[Epic 4G Android Development] danasmith2816:
OK, thanks for the info. Someone told me in a previous post that it was the same, just updated. I think since I'm not running ext4 at present I'll go back to the Genocide kernel for the overclock.

Thanks again for the help.