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[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] hearts king101:
when smartbench starts analysis, it gives me force close

what's the problem ?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] James91:
Do you install it in SD card (app2sd) ??

if yes, plz move it back to internal memory
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
I think the bottom 2 items don't work right.

Use the first 40mb or first 48mb options
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] James91:
I have googled the term and some said it is the Max memory that is allowed for a single app to use.

And most set their vm head size at 16 MB.

Is there any bad effect if I set it at a greater value??
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
I thought that the default value in CM6 was 24mb.

I saw your post via tapatalk so I actually tested it out at 64mb and the phone was incredibly quick and smooth.

I can't say that it affected benchmark scores much but I was surprised at how quickly Smartbench loaded up!

If you look at the OP, in the status bar I have an icon with 2 vertical yellow bars.

That's SeePU.

The first bar is CPU load/activity and the second bar is free memory.

When I was doing the test with that large VM heap size, that second bar was near the top and green - meaning lots of free ram. I guess the memory got flushed out. No need for a task killer lol.

Then I closed smartbench and there was no desktop lag and process monitor was showing over 60mb of free ram despite the fact that my memory management setting in AOR is set to mild.

I did not see any ill effects at all but keep in mind that my dalvik cache is on an ext2 partition so that may be a factor as well.

This thread that I just found pretty interesting. http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/2692-vm-heap-size/

Also, as far as I can figure, an app will only use all the VM Heap memory if it needs it.

If it needs 40 mb and the vm heap is only 16 mb, that app's performance will be crap when compared to how it would perform if the VM heap was 40 or 48mb.

I guess the only downside would be that there is the potential for background apps (media player, etc...) to close because the foreground app is using up too much memory. If that's the case then I'd lower the VM heap to a more balanced level.

The lowest I'm going is my usual 48mb but I'm gonna stick with 64mb for awhile... :D

Edit: Hey it actually helped with linpack... I managed 15 MFLOPS :cool:
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] James91:
Bro, I have tried to increase vm heap size to 48 mb but the score is close to the old one.

I also notice that in a post, the author did a test and he found that 12mb would result in the best performance.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
Yeah I said near the top that it didn't effect the benchmark scores much - meaning smartbench.

But it did give me

consistent

high scores in linpack and I even got over 15 mflops which has never happened to me before.

I saw the post that you are referring to and they actually talk about it in that cyanogenmod forum thread that I linked. A couple of people explain VM heap very well and pretty much explain why that 12mb test didn't mean anything.

The main thing is that my phone is actually running alot smoother with a larger VM heap though :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] James91:
I have raised the size to 48mb

and it seems to be better

What is the Max vm head size that I can set??
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
I had it at 64 mb for a couple of days but I think that it is just too big in that when I checked running processes, some apps or services that I want to be running would not be running... so I put it back to 48mb
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] hearts king101:
hey guys

i have no idea about what U R doing:confused:

how did u raise the size to 48mb ?

what is the benefits of these changes u r making ?

plz would u explain what does vm head size mean?:confused:
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
Check this thread http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/2692-vm-heap-size/

It's VERY informative.

If you have a tiny 12mb VM heap and an app needs more than that (VERY likely), your cpu will be doing extra work due to "garbage collection"

You can change it in AOR under the froyo menu or in cyanogenmod settings.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] GokuH12:
mmm I got

428/918

really low Productivity Score =S

@1000Mhz

48Mb VM

Interactive Mode

6-10-24-40-50-60

JIT OFF

And Homescreen bulletproof activated ( With the local.prop way)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
Nice score for JITless :)

Anything wrong with the phone with JIT enabled?

With those settings, I doubt that you will have any issues with JIT enabled ;)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] cherrybombaz:
ROM..................................: CM 612 0.07-11.01.28

VM Heap Size......................: 48 mb

MHZ@VSEL.........................: 1000mhz @ 60 vsel

Governor............................: Interactive

Kernel................................: 2.6.32.9-g11068ed
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] GokuH12:
Hahaha JITless xD, i will activate it again and see what happen, I deactivated because i was getting some bad memory managament and that help a litle, i will try it again and do the test again to see =D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] James91:
Anyone use froyomod or cm7 ???

plz share your marks!!!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] byaco:
650/1030

CM7 RC3 0.08-11.03.16 @900Mhz

48m VM

Smartass Mode

6-8-24-40-50-60
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] GokuH12:
740/914

@1000Mhz

48Mb VM

Interactive Mode

6-10-24-40-50-60

JIT ON

And Homescreen bulletproof activated ( With the local.prop way)

CM7 RC3 11.03 HO!NO

I guess i have some tweaking to do haha

P.D. how do i know the vsel?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] n3n00:
Root explorer > etc/init.d/10overclock(long press) and view as text. Vsel is number near echo (like 56,60 etc.)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] legalghost:
just a quick question.. Is it okay to flash cm7 rom via openrecovery on the official froyo.. Or should I use g.o.t 2.2.1
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] GokuH12:
Thx Men, i will see right now :D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] fuggii:
ROM..................................: Motorola Stock Froyo

VM Heap Size......................: 48 mb

MHZ@VSEL.........................: 1100mhz @ 64 vsel

Memory Management (in AOR): 6,10,24,40,50,60

Governor............................: smartass

Battery Level......................: 80%

JIT status..........................: Unknown

I dont know if Stock froyo have native JIT if i try install it phone dies :D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
With that really high score, JIT is definitely enabled. :D

That looks alot like my phone lol
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] fuggii:
Thanks to your tips i make that in my phone :D i have around 50-80 free memory and bulletproof luncher without this ro.HOME... option

One more thanks to you dude :D

Regards

fuggii
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] cooldudeansari:
ROM..................................: Motorola official 2.2.1

VM Heap Size(VM HEAP TOOL)......................: 32 mb

MHZ@VSEL.........................: 1000mhz @ 62 vsel

Memory Management (AUTO KILLER): 6,8,16,60,70,80

Governor............................: performance

Battery Level......................: 100%

SMARTBECNH 2010------- 874/1218

when ever i set my processor above 1000mhz eg.1100mhz at 64 vsel

the phone reboots when i am playing intensive games like gangstar,hawx etc

after running fine for a while....

and also the same happens if i set the VM HEAP size to 40 mb...

is it bcoz my dalvik cache is not in ext2 partition?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
I'm not sure about the dalvik but I doubt it.

You should try 65 or 66 vsel at 1100mhz then. It would make it more stable.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] spc_hicks09:
Motorola Droid running the MIUI Rom. (Froyo).

With Slayher's 1200mhz kernel.

SetCPU Settings:

Overclocked at 1200max 250min.

Gov: ondemand

Battery: 5% lol

No autokiller
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] cooldudeansari:
ROM..................................: Motorola official 2.2.1

VM Heap Size(VM HEAP TOOL)......................: 32 mb

MHZ@VSEL.........................: 1000mhz @ 62 vsel

Memory Management (AUTO KILLER): 6,8,16,60,70,80(strict auto killer preset)

Governor............................: performance

Battery Level......................: 90%

SMARTBECNH 2010------- 937/1272

if you notice not much has changed from my previous post,

but the score is improved...

i did 2 other changes...these made my milestone so fast that it literally flies out of my hand now...and stable as rock...and the performnce of games like gangstar (3d games)improved a lot...no more lagging at all...

first :i applied zipalign through androidiani OR

second:i applied kernel optimization for froyo through the same..

the phones awesome now...

i do want to install jit though...can anybody point me in the right direction how to?thanks in advance
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] cooldudeansari:
guess what?

i thought lets overclock a bit more...

ROM..................................: Motorola official 2.2.1

VM Heap Size(VM HEAP TOOL)......................: 32 mb

MHZ@VSEL.........................: 1100mhz @ 66 vsel

Memory Management (AUTO KILLER): 6,8,16,60,70,80(strict auto killer preset)

Governor............................: performance

Battery Level......................: 90%

SMARTBECNH 2010------- 1001/1288

staggering score for a milestone i guess...now i think i am giving zepplin's milestone a competition... :)

thanks for all the tweaks by the way...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
Okay.. wow... yes staggering indeed.

I wonder what if I add a little bit of vsel...

Can you post SB2011?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] cooldudeansari:
okay...i will soon...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] boonhoong:
ROM..................................: CM7 RC3-0.08

VM Heap Size.....................: 24Mb

MHZ@VSEL........................: 900MHz @ 60 vsel

Governor............................: Interactive

Battery Level......................: 100%

JIT....................................: Off
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] James91:
wow, just wonder if the aggressive autokiller setting is good or not.

will the music player be killed when u surf internet?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] n3n00:
SB 2011 score on FroyoMod 2.6.0.

900MHz @ 56vsel

JIT on

Launcher Bulletproof

No other tweaks.

Score may be low but this ROM is best in games (and I tried lot of ROMs and games), all of them are playing smoothly, even too fast (PES 2011, players are twice faster than on gingerbread ROMs xD).

So, this benchmark really doesn't show anything...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] cooldudeansari:
hey,

you say games run faster?thats what i want...is that the best rom for games?

i dont want to go back on eclair where the games used to run fine..

i mean the official froyo 2.2.1 isnt good for games...gangstar lags a lot...

does gangstar work better on this rom?please advise..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] n3n00:
Just try and you will see :P
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] cooldudeansari:
okay,i finished downloading now...i wonder if gangstar would work properly..

lets c..

u c i am crazy about hd/ 3d games :D

this rom is is nandroid backup format,so do i have to flash GOT before i restore this?

i am currently on 2.2.1 official rom...please advise...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] n3n00:
Im on GOT, didn't try official, so idk. Try, if it doesnt work just flash GOT.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] spc_hicks09:
Tweaked just little bit more and finally beat out the Nexus One with 2.2+ !!!!!!!!!!

Nice little score of 1483 !!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] cooldudeansari:
hello,

i finally decided to go back to stock 2.1,games work much better on it...

i decided to stick with 2.1 as milestone doesnt look like it can handle 2.2..its ram and other stuff are probably not capable of doing it...i mean 2.2 runs fine but when you play games the performance is just awful...

anyways the only thing i wanted to know since i use a pin password is there any possible way to get the number keypad while unlocking the device?any help would be appreciated very much...thanks in advance..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] spc_hicks09:
A little more tweaking.......

Motorola Droid 1 running stock 2.2.2 (rooted)

Chevy01's Ultra Low Voltage 1.2GHZ kernel

Topped out at 1645 !!!!!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
Wow... that's awesome.

Funny that you just bumped this thread because I was just going to repost something that I had posted in my supercharge thread which includes an interesting, maybe very big, tweak:

DSI fix off, JIT Enabled, VM Heap 40, 1100mhz performance governor

I also waited until cpu load was 0 (using SeePU in status bar)

And made sure the battery was not running hot before hitting start (popped the phone in the fridge when needed lol):

CM7 Stock Minfree (6, 8, 12, 16, 24, 32) vs My Balanced 2 Settings (6-8-26-27-28-28)

2 Best Results for each out of about 5 tries

SmartBench 2011 - 822/981 (1803) and 772/938 (1710) ........... vs .... 918/963 (1881) and 886/966 (1852)

SmartBench 2010 - 766/1068 (1834) and 609/908 (1517) ......... vs .... 633/949 (1582) and 633/1016 (1649)

Cronos Ginger 1.1 (w/ADW Launcher) Stock Minfree (6, 8, 12, 16, 24, 32) vs My Balanced 2 Settings (6-8-26-27-28-28)

SmartBench 2011 - 938/924 (1862) and 901/887 (1788) ........... vs ..... 928/967 (1895) and 932/959 (1891)

SmartBench 2010 - 824/1125 (1949) and 701/1085 (1786) ....... vs ..... 808/1131 (1939) and 791/1143 (1934)

Linpack... it would vary from 12.5 to 14.5 on CM7 defaults but My Balanced 2 would vary from 14 to 15 and actually went over 15 MFLOPS 6 or 7 times.

Linpack was pretty much the same as above in comparing CG with Balanced 2.

I'm not sure why Smartbench 2010 scores are so low :confused:

I was getting 950/1250 on CM6 :p

I'd expect at least 900/1100

But CM7 is consistently faster and more usable with my balanced settings than with it's default settings.

I really can't tolerate how sluggish it is without the memory tweaks :p

CG 1.1, as you can see, is indeed faster than CM7 out of the box (of course, CM7 is more polished and complete)

BUT, I think I know where the difference in performance lies.

In build.prop.

debug.sf.hw=1

I will put this in when I reinstall CM7.

Thanks to cherrybombaz for making me aware of this little command over here

But the problem with CM7 and CG both is that the

OOM groupings don't make much sense.

There is NOTHING ever in the 3rd slot (secondary server) and a whole bunch of stuff in slot 4 (hidden applications)

with the same priority level(4)

.

So as soon as free memory gets down to the slot 4 level, it seems that all that stuff gets killed off at once.

Even if that's not the case, in CM6, processes are spread out nicely with different priority levels so not too many things get killed at once.

It would have a few apps in the 3rd slot with a priority level 2 and it made sense for the apps in that slot to be there.

CM6 smokes everything but I will keep fiddlin with CM7 now and see how it goes.

If I can't sort out the memory groupings, it's back to froyo
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] n3n00:
Hehe ^^ after putting debug.sf.hw=1 in FroyoMOD 2.6.1 it is MUCH smoother! ADW EX used to be kind of laggy in drawer. But with this line it is like 20-30% faster :D. I'll post my benchs.

-1GHz@60vsel-JIT on-40mb VM Heap(results are same with 30mb)

Smart 2010 & 2011

Not so good in numbers, but faster than GB ROMs.

Linpack

Pretty much the same as in CM7/CG1.2.0...

Quadrant Standard

Could be better :S...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] spc_hicks09:
So how exactly would I push this

debug.sf.hw=1

to the build_prop? I'm obviously rooted and have root explorer, no terminal emulator though. Can I use root explorer and a text editor to fix it?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] n3n00:
I've just added it in the last line. With text editor in RE.

@hicks wow, that Froyo for Droid 1 is pretty optimized...stupid Moto, they could port it to MS somehow -.-
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] spc_hicks09:
I tried and I get "You cannot edit this file because the file system is read only."

WTF ?

Oh and here's my latest Linpack run below.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] n3n00:
You must click the "R/W" button at the top, so it will show "R/O" than you can change it.

However, right now kabaldan (cm6 & 7 dev) said that this line does nothing :/ but it does for me...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] spc_hicks09:
Changed it and ran smartbench again.....actually made it a lot slower. Only ran at 1480 that time. Weird!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] n3n00:
I think it shouldn't change anything with benching. I'll remove the line and try benches again. Try reboot and bench again. But do you see any change in speed, games etc?

Edit: no changes in benches without the line. They are even lower. But who cares about stupid numbers, they are always different :/
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] rrohanjs:
productivity index - 734

games index - 1097

900mhz

cm7 rc4

.. how can i improve the productivity index ? .. n wht does it mean ?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
Kabaldan posted about it and it appears that the debug.sf.hw=1 won't do anything on gingerbread or froyo as it's enabled by default.

But of course, it wouldn't hurt anything to leave it in.

Productivity ~ CPU performance

Games ~ Graphics (GPU) performance
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] rrohanjs:
hmm my cpu performance is pathetic then compared to the other results i c here .. but how come .. wht cud b the reason .. n ya also to mention my battery life is even more pathetic .. time to get a new android i guess ..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] rrohanjs:
im using the auto memory manager nw .. with mild settings .. n my benchmark numbers changed ..

pi dropped to 623 and gi dropped to 971 .. sumthin is terribly wrong ..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
Your scores arent bad.

Remember I'm overclocked to 1100 and with CM7 RC4, these were the scores for SB 2010 without minfree tweaks:

766/1068 (1834) and 609/908 (1517) (the phone may have been a little too warm lol)

SB 2011 scores seem to be more consistent though.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mile44:
FroyoMod 2.6.1b, no particular tweaking.

first run PI: 385 GI: 846

second run PI: 370 GI: 788

are we sure this test is reliable?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] n3n00:
I'm sure it's not. Gaming on CM is owned by FroyoMOD gaming... Performance also.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] L3ibnitZ:
ROM..................................: HO!NO! Mod CM7.2.0-RC0 ICS Edition

VM Heap Size......................: 28Mb

MHZ@VSEL.........................: 1000MHz @ 62 vsel

Governor............................: Performance

JIT....................................: enabled

SuperchargerV6...................: Balanced 3

Any suggestions 2 tweak it a lil bit more?

u guys are reaching scores of about 800/1100 and im only at 500/800 and that seems a bit low..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] ioo7:
Liquid GB 3.2

VM size: 52

CPU@1.25 Performance

JIT: yup

V6 super update9 RC8.1 option 4

This was governor ondemand

This was antutu

If any one has any suggestions, want higher score with lower CPU friq..:o

Thanks

Sent from my little GizMo ``'\[©_*].,,
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeppelinrox:
nice!

Also, I didn't know there's a SB 2012 :o
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] ioo7:
Its kinda harder on the device , the shark and fish:o
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] zeletrik:
ROM..................................: CM7.2.0-RC1

VM Heap Size......................: 32Mb

CPU...................................: 1000MHz

Governor............................: INTERACTIVE

JIT....................................: Enabled

SuperchargerV6...................: Gaming

Score(2012)........................: 489/1680
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] droydlloyd:
My screenshot

Smoking!!!
[Networking] mohdmistry:
hey there everyone

i have just bought SE Xperia x10 and its amaizing "first android"

but one needs alot of internet for DLing apps and games. "in my country its very expensive GSM"

so i googled some wifi broadcasting and here is what i found

"connectify me"

so in orer to use this from my main desktop pc, shoul i get some sort of wireless router?

or is there some kind of broadcaster.

" im thinkin of some usb type of thing so i could remove it rather than internal".

NOTE: im using one internet connection to power 2 pc 2 laptops and PS3, using an ST LAB switcher or splitter.

and laptop i think can do this. but i want more of a grounded thing.

thanks.
[Networking] drewsif:
Just connect to wifi lol.
[Networking] mohdmistry:
well i know how to connect to wifi, but its not available in my area.

so im gonna have to create one from my pc internet.

PLUS is rooting of xperia x10i safe?

and if i do it is there a way to go back to original unrooted thing ?
[Networking] wiilweer:
If you have Windows 7 with wifi card then you can use Connectify Me. It is a software for Windows 7 to create a hotspot with wifi card.No router needed. Just quick install and a easy configure(if you need help, ask www.google.com). If you get this working then you can easily connect your x10 to wifi.

Rooting enables you some tweaks. You can install root needed apps + you can uninstall SE bloatware and speed things up by installing JiT and ... go to x10 forums with this.

One more thing:

Rooting your device = losing warranty.
[Networking] mohdmistry:
thanks for that,

i almost done the rooting thing , but that last thing u said pulled me off.

this is my first brand new phone, and i dont wanna lose warranty
[Networking] wiilweer:
Well you can alway reflash with SEUS if you need your warranty :p
[Networking] mohdmistry:
okaaaay, so what are the main benefits of rooting .

and are u really sure tht this seus thing woul get me back to the original state?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChemicalD:
I am a noob.

I followed some instructions to prepare my N1 for the OTA 2.3.3 update and messed some things up. I cleared EVERYTHING from Clokwork recovery, but, then phone would not boot anymore. So I manually loaded a Cyan 6.1 and GApps zip and got the phoen to load. Finally ran clockwork, rom manager, backed it up. Then I downloaded the stock image FR91 from ROM manager, clear cache/data and rebooted. Phone updated from 2.2 to 2.2.2. Now I have all my apps back and stock ROM, but superuser will not work. I cannot flash clockwork now, and cannot use ROm manager. Titanium prompted me to update superuser binary thru a zip file, but it will not run. Now, I tried to access recovery thru bootloader, but it just give me the Android with the ! and nothing more.

Alos, ROM manager keeps saying my phoen is not rooted, but when I bought it (used) it had Cyanogen 6.1. I know it's rooted, I get the unlocked boot screen, but why the problems now? How can I regain superuser functions to use ROm manager again?

Thanks in advance.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
This is what happens when people don't read and don't understand what they're doing.

ROOT is a user in OPERATING SYSTEM = Android OS.

LOCK is a property of BOOTLOADER = a program that boots the phone.

Stock = NOT ROOTED, until you root it.

UNLOCKED = allows you to flash ROMs and other partitions directly from bootloader.

The 2 have no relation whatsoever, besides one - being UNLOCKED makes it easier to gain ROOT.

This has been discussed here a zillion of times. Do yourself and XDA a favor, please, and invest some time in reading Wiki - it points to several 101's (things to know) and guides.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChemicalD:
So in my case I have unrooted the phone and should research on how to root again?

Thanks for the reply. I suppose I just confused myself.

So if I root again this will/will not affect the OTA update?