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[Desire Android Development] minhocaz:
Thank-you for the replys but I'm not giving this statement without prior research and actions to prevent the battery drain.. in fact I have my desire just 1month from now and I did the ROM experimentation just because battery improvement reasons.

I have flashed this amazing lite ROM and stuck with it exactly because is app light and exceptional battery reports. I flashed the latest radio available. I have the thalamus kernel recommended, I research and followed the bugs report to prevent battery drain like the WiFi always on policy.. I did several procedures to calibration of my battery. them started with the juice saver apps.. and I just keep using my phone as my personal and professional life requires..

Still like stated before I read amazed and sceptical the great reports like 13h intensive use and battery 66 %?

Im not dought of it but I just wonder what the hell is wrong when I have 40 % battery with 5 hours usage and just one call.. of course 3g always on and 2h screen on. But this is ridicule performance...

I guess I will buy a new battery
[Desire Android Development] tpickard:
If your screen is 'on' for 2 hours, your battery will drain like a waterfall! No matter what you do, this issue of yours will not go away until the screen (HUGE battery hog) is not on all the time. My screen is only on for about 1 hour total in a day, and I get 3-4% battery drain an hour with moderate usage. Your problem is not a battery issue, it is a usage issue.

THE MORE YOU USE YOUR PHONE, THE MORE THE BATTERY WILL DRAIN.

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[Desire Android Development] iain2510:
With regard to battery life and 3G a lot depends on where you use your phone. I do a lot of travelling within Scotland and when in cities 3G is fine but outwith I've got to change to 2G otherwise my battery drains very fast. If your getting poor battery life I'd recommend setting to 2G only and see if it makes a difference.
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
Get rid of the juicedefender/taskiller apps first too. Often these things are working so hard to kill tasks, turn things on and off etc that they actually use more battery than just leaving stuff alone.

Android OS has a task killer built in, it also has pretty good battery management... let it do it's thing.
[Desire Android Development] AdamG:
Has everyone forgot what stock android is?

I will make a final build later this week.
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
Oh nice :) Will be sure to give it a run.
[Desire Android Development] amitabhishek:
Considering /dev/null uses the same thalamus kernel & I do most of the stuff that you do; this is incredible! 9am to 9pm is what I get max. BTW what radio you using?
[Desire Android Development] amitabhishek:
and I thought /dev/null was stock Android:p.
[Desire Android Development] davedes:
Use kernel 2.6.37 latest update

http://thalamus.ineige.org/kernels/

Radio - I'm on 32.54
[Desire Android Development] sashajovicic:
Looking forward to that!

Thanks!
[Desire Android Development] andrewanemic:
Cannot wait for a final build of this rom. Would stave off my want for a Nexus S!

All I want is a pure stock gingerbread rom for my Desire! So thank you AdamG!
[Desire Android Development] markdavey:
I suggest you try Oxygen 2.0.1. It is the 'production' version of this ROM running 2.3.3 Gingerbread.
[Desire Android Development] andrewanemic:
I have, I've used all the gingerbread roms, redux, cyanogenmod7, all the oxygen RC's, along withy oxygen 2 final, and 2.0.1, the devnul for me is the better of them all. It just feels pure. ;)
[Desire Android Development] davedes:
+1 to that. Just missing the auto brightness though otherwise brilliant.
[Desire Android Development] kroogar:
Unable to do a factory reset

Hi guys

Just an observation: Since Google has opened a lot of services to Google Apps accounts I decided to do a factory reset to get rid of my GMail account on my phone. This lead to a boot loop that I could not get out of. I cleared everything through recovery but all in vain. It was not until I flashed Oxygen 2.0.1 and then reflashed DevNull it worked...

Been using DevNull since the day it was released... works like a charm :)
[Desire Android Development] sofia-captivate:
What's the difference between this and oxygen? And howcome the power control widget doesn't have option to choose data (3g) on and off?
[Desire Android Development] schiznik:
Read the first post of this and the oxygen thread, that will tell you the differences :P

The widget options you're thinking of are a cyanogenmod addition, that isn't in devnull or oxygen
[Desire Android Development] amitabhishek:
Goto wireless & mobile network in settings if you want to turn off data usage.
[Desire Android Development] kirior:
HI everyone

I was wandering is it just mine problem or more people experience it as well.

What i mean is that when i making/receiving a phone call people on the other side cam hear themselves talking. Is there any fix for it or they just have to put up with it?

I know that in first post it is said that Adam will not take requests and stuff, but was wandering maybe someone else had same issue and made fix for it?

Or maybe i can use the echo fix from Oxygen?

Thank you all in advance for reply.

Regards

Kirior
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
Use the Oxygen echo fix for now.

I assume the fix will be incorporated into the rom when Adam does the final release.

M.
[Desire Android Development] minhocaz:
FM RADIO

For the ppl that asked for it.. I leave here FM RADIO APK that i extracter from Oxygen..
[Desire Android Development] kirior:
Thx my man the Oxygen fix worked like a charm.

Regards

Kirior
[Desire Android Development] minhocaz:
Sorry Guys... i had the best intentions but installing this app wont give FM RADIO back....

Still trying to figure why.. I Get the error force close message eachntime i try to open the app....

Tryed also to include it in the /System folder of the ROM before flash but in Recovery i get an error in the "Verifiyng package", before the real flash and it abort....

Also tryed to find the correspondent FM.odex but i couldnt find it in the Oxygen ROM

Anyone got the solution for this? I really would like to add FM RADIO to this rom.. i use it LOL
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
Just wait. Adam has already said he's going to post up a final version soon.... that may/may not have working radio. Some things were left out intentionally (busybox, email, etc) but some were just because they were not working (as FM actually wasn't working at the time).

Just wait and see.
[Desire Android Development] minhocaz:
I know, but like the Email.Apk/.odex was made available by some folks and i downloaded it, and it installed and worked... i tryed to find the same for the FM...

Are you telling that it may be possible that FM RADIO wont work at all in this ROM?

Tought that it might work with an apk like the email
[Desire Android Development] tpickard:
Because this rom is not de-odexed, anything in the /system directory needs to have the .apk & .odex files for each app added in to the cooked rom before flashing. I don't think you can push a single .apk file on its own. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here.

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[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
That's my understanding of things too, hence when AdamG posted the email files it had both apk and odex included.

Easiest fix is just to wait and see, I'm not aware of any other odexed GB rom that you'd be able to pull files from if you're not able to generate them yourself.
[Desire Android Development] minhocaz:
humm.. not trying to give any strong opinion because im not an expert... but the email.zip someone made available i just downloaded it to my SD, extracted it and installed both the apk and odex and it worked smoothly..... same thing to the HTC_IME... apk and odex.... i tought i could made the same with the FM but i couldnt...

let me just add.. i have a FM radio .apk and .odex... just to clear things up
[Desire Android Development] minhocaz:
bt the way... i tryed your imROMination of WM7... great fast cool looking ROM you manage there.... real nice....

Got back to Dev Null tough.... didnt had the time to explore much because my busy work demanded my HTC on the spot readdy with all my apps on demand installed so... nadroid back :)

Cool work...
[Desire Android Development] minhocaz:
t the way... i tryed your imROMination of WM7... great fast cool looking ROM you manage there.... real nice....

Got back to Dev Null tough.... didnt had the time to explore much because my busy work demanded my HTC on the spot readdy with all my apps on demand installed so... nadroid back

Cool work...
[Desire Android Development] SimonVT:
You're wrong :)

Some libs need to be built into the rom for FM to work, which will not happen. Go to oxygen for FM.
[Desire Android Development] tpickard:
You're right :)

I completely forgot about the libs!

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[Desire Android Development] minhocaz:
Do you recommend S-OFF with this ROM? What´s the advantage

After trying several ROMs I anxiously wait for the final built of this one.. it´s the one i´ll going to stick to.. FAST, Clean and stable.. great battery life... Great development!!

2ISSUES:

1- One question to the more experient users... is there any advantage in doing an S-OFF to use this ROM? What are the advantages of it?

2- Hope i could manage in the future to add the FM Radio to the ROM, the only issue i still deal with in the 1st version of the ROM

Thnks to all
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
1- Definitely. Because there's no EXT partition based A2SD running S-OFF with the Oxygen HBOOT you get 330Mb of internal storage, huge increase from stock 147Mb.

2- Yet to be seen, however it was broken at the time of first release so may possibly be released in the final. Remembering though this is a personal rom so if the devs who cooked it don't use FM Radio it still won't be in there.

Latest round of Oxygen fixes look like they iron out the major bugs (bootloop, echo, call delay etc) so final release of this should basically be entirely bugfree and very, very smooth :) I suspect I'm going to be running it for a while too.

M.
[Desire Android Development] schiznik:
I'm 99% certain there will never be FM radio in devnull.
[Desire Android Development] sashajovicic:
Excellent!

Will you continue to provide DevNull? I like this clean Android.

Thanks!
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
Hehe, no worries ;)

I don't use it at all, just means one less unused app on my phone... so awesome for me.

At least people have a definitive answer now!

M.
[Desire Android Development] czesiu:
sorry for somewhat OT

How much less space does it take beacause it is not deodexed? Are there any other A2.3 not deodexed ROMs? Would Link2SD work here?
[Desire Android Development] andrewanemic:
I just use root explorer to remove unwanted system apps. I love roms that have the basic apps, giving you the option to add what you need! Devnul does that! :)
[Desire Android Development] Th1rteenth:
Can you post a straightforward guide to flashing hboot tables please?

Tried it countless times with no joy, usually I can pick this sort of thing up but the terminology in the guides assumes an awful lot, this has me stumped lol :)

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire Android Development] mugey:
Have you tired following the instructions on alphrev.nl?

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire Android Development] Th1rteenth:
Yeah, I s-offed with no issues at all using a bootable usb and the alpharev ISO but can't get a simple explanation on how to edit the data tables :(

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire Android Development] tpickard:
-Download the Oxygen HBOOT (here)

-Place that file in the same directory as your adb/fastboot location

-Make a backup

-Boot into fastboot with your phone connected via USB

-From your adb directory type:

'fastboot flash hboot bravo_alphaspl-oxygen.img'

'fastboot reboot-bootloader'

'fastboot erase cache'​

-Boot recovery, wipe everything and restore your backup.
[Desire Android Development] Th1rteenth:
This is using cmd? How can I change the location that cmd points to when I load it up, without creating a shortcut to it?

Cheers for the help :D

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire Android Development] tpickard:
Yes its using cmd prompt in Windows

you can change directory by typing:

'cd\' this will take you to root of the drive C://

'cd /yourfiles/yourfiles/yourdirectoryforadb'​
[Desire Android Development] Th1rteenth:
Cool, will give it a bash tomorrow when the wee one is at nursery :)
[Desire Android Development] uafridi_1179:
Can we get app2sd in this Rom later at some point???
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
Highly doubt it.

Try Oxygen.
[Desire Android Development] schiznik:
No, if you need any additional features, I suggest you check out Oxygen instead. This rom is designed to be as minimal as possible
[Desire Android Development] :
Any idea if the Oxygen dalvik-cache2SD-signed.zip would work on this ROM?
[Desire Android Development] pete777:
wrong thread,delete please
[Desire Android Development] minhocaz:
any clue when the final built of this ROM will be released?
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
My guess? When it's good and ready :)
[Desire Android Development] minhocaz:
;)

Cant wait for that.. this is such a good piece of work..

Will try also to S-OFF before installing the final built of Dev Null!!

Been reading the Alpharev procedure and some forums to lear about it before giving it a go...

If i understood well I first do the S-OFF with alpharev and in a second procedure i do the Oxygen HBOOT to have a 300mb internal storage, right?

A numb question, if the phone only have 150mb internal where do they get the extra 150mb from? Does the phone have that extra space built in but not in use?
[Desire Android Development] SimonVT:
Check the partition sizes on alpharev.nl, bravo stock is default. Basically you get a smaller /system and /cache, while /data gets larger.
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
Yes, for S-OFF you just download and burn the linux live disc, the S-OFF process is all basically automatic. I got a few black screens on my pc while it was running which was scary but i just sat and waited and it all worked. Keep in mind there is always a very small risk of bricking when you S-OFF too :)

The oxygen HBOOT is a separate process after, needs to be installed via ADB. Easiest way is using a tool like android flasher if you aren't that good with adb.

M.
[Desire Android Development] davedes:
All the info about s-off and hboot can be found here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=882758
[Desire Android Development] Cooperman_UK:
Started using this ROM yesterday, so far no problems but I've found a glitch if you can call it that,

when you connect it to a PC via usb it always says "Turn off USB storage" even when not connected :confused:

Edit: just read through posts and USB problem was reported on post #40
[Desire Android Development] JUZZIE87:
I'm sure your busy Adam, but you mentioned there would be another release with some bug fixes for this rom. Do you think we will see this soon or have you decided to stop maintaining this altogether?
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
I presume he's trying to iron the bugs out of oxygen, once that is properly stable I expect we'll see a final release of devnull. I assume from that point it'll just stand as is... which is perfectly fine with me so long as the bugs are gone :)

M.
[Desire Android Development] minhocaz:
Can you guys make a list of the known bugs So far?

I only have found the echo in calls corrected with the echo.fix release that came out..

What will final release of dev null being correcting?
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
2 second delay when someone calls you

bootloops (google issue)

those are the major ones that pretty much everyone gets but there's a couple of little things that affect a small number of users too. It'll be worth waiting for the final.
[Desire Android Development] sashajovicic:
I hope very soon to be released. I'm waiting .. :)
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
Just a friendly reminder that there's still interest in this ;)
[Desire Android Development] sashajovicic:
+1

i still use it :)

waiting for any updates if exists
[Desire Android Development] :
For sure i haven't used devnull in a while keen for another one :) thanks for your work also.
[Desire Android Development] buzzboy:
Update sounds fantastic, cleanest Rom around.
[Desire Android Development] akaihayate:
hi everyone! noob here.

just flashed this rom in and thanks for the clean and wonderful rom.

everything is fast but there is only one problem. my mobile data does not work for all the apps. only the browser is working

strange enough when connected via wireless everything works

anyone can help on this?

by the way how do we install the email? :confused:
[Desire Android Development] sashajovicic:
Devnull + Thalamus Kernel 12_r3 RC1 = stable & fast .. the best combination :)
[Desire Android Development] minhocaz:
Thalamus Kernel 12_r3 RC1 is better (or different) than Thalamus 2.6.37.1???

Why do you recomend this particular kernel??

Also very hopefull for the final built of this ROM, never used another since DevNull came in.. thxs
[Desire Android Development] remorema:
thalamus as kinda discontinued 2.6.37 dev cause they're are not as good as 2.6.35.

so I strongly recomend the use of 2.6.35.12_r2 or r3_rc1
[Desire Android Development] Dangry:
I hear good things...

This is a fast and smooth one is what I hear. Flashing now but I'm still not sure if I miss sense or not yet? I like sense roms but there is so much extra garbage that comes with it.... Bah, anyway, thanks to all the Dev's for all your efforts!

I guess I'll just keep flashing away till my poor little phone finds a keeper ;)

So lets just give this a try then shall we....
[Desire Android Development] minhocaz:
Ok.. will try.. can you please adress me the link to the latest kernel?

Obrigado ;)
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
http://thalamus.ineige.org/kernels/2.6.35/
[Desire Android Development] :
Quick question... apart from the obvious extra space that the oxygen Hboot would give would i notice any REAL speed difference in the UI?

Reason i ask is the only reason i would flash a different Hboot is for speed as i dont use that many apps :D
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
Well with this rom there's no A2SD, so everything is kept internal anyway. Just depends on how much space you need.

M.
[Desire Android Development] :
What about the speed?
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
Speed difference is only if you're using internal memory vs sd card for storage. HBOOT doesn't change that, just makes it easier to use internal only :)
[Desire Android Development] :
Thanks dude.
[Desire Android Development] :
One more thing matt what's is it jusht as easy to flash back to stock hboot If I wanted to?
[Desire Android Development] yeti.p:
Yes, it is. I'm using the PB99IMG-method. So I'm able to switch my partition table without a PC nearby.
[Desire Android Development] :
Might try it that way... so i just download the .zip file from alpharev then rename and flash from hboot? same if going back
[Desire Android Development] yeti.p:
Exactly, but be sure to pick the right file from the alpharev-site. The ones named PB99...zip are the files you need,if you want to use this method. Then put it in the root of your SD, rename it to PB99IMG.zip and you're almost done. Be sure to nandroid your device before applying the new partition table.
[Desire Android Development] :
Fantastic work - flashed a couple of hours ago and UI is observably faster then Oxygen 2.0.3, boot time is about half that previously, around 35-40s from off.

No other modifications, stock kernel, latest (17) radio and Nexus RIL (1001G).

Battery life yet to be seen but I'm sure it will be good.

Thanks so much for sharing this!
[Desire Android Development] JUZZIE87:
I don't think we have been forgotten, but there hasn't been really any updates on any 2.3.3 roms in the desire forum for ages. Are we waiting for something ? I thought the nexus one OTA would give us drivers that they could pull rather than chopping and changing to make things work. That's what Adam said a while back anyway... It would seem we share the same taste in this rom, clean and fresh with no fancy mods or added features nobody uses, its just not being maintained as much as I thought
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
This was never going to be maintained on any serious level. It's a personal ROM that was released to the public as a one-off. I think the fact that AdamG has committed to a final release is awesome, as it wasn't really expected.

I think what we are waiting for is a truly bugfree release. If you follow Oxygen at all then you'll see that AOSP issues crop up from time to time and get patched as we go. Once the bulk/all of these AOSP bugs are dealt with I imagine we will then see a final DevNull which should be totally clean and bugfree (and totally awesome!).

M.
[Desire Android Development] :
Bang on, we are lucky to have this rom, the performance is visibly better than others I have used!

I am a convert.
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
Yeah I love it :) I'm currently running Oxygen 2.0.3 because it's a bit more mature and bugfree, but DevNULL has all the features I want/need. Once there's a stable final I suspect I'm going to be running it for a looooong time. Having said that, I'm hardly upset with life running oxygen and I'd much rather wait a little longer and make sure the final gets all the polish it deserves ;)

M.
[Desire Android Development] :
+1 on that, all it needs is a few touch ups and would definitely be one of the best for speed and stability.
[Desire Android Development] schiznik:
Out of interest, what "touch ups" are needed for a final v of devnull?
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
Oh not so much touchups, just bugfixes etc. Assuming the underlying stuff is basically the same as oxygen just with the leaner featureset then I assume the bugfixes that oxygen has had since 2.0 could be applied directly to Devnull and that would pretty much sort it out.

Things like bootloops, 2 sec answer delay, I presume pmem issue will rear it's head at some point etc.

The actual featureset of Devnull is perfect for me as it is.
[Desire Android Development] JUZZIE87:
http://twitter.com/#!/adamg_xda/stat...23917138853888

Ohhhh yerrrrr! So I guess once Oxygen 2.3.4 GRJ22 is released, the bug fixes will be incorporated into a devNULL final build with updated apps. Maybe this is what we were waiting for... I suppose theres no point in releasing a final build with GRI40 when the latest build was only a month away right?
[Desire Android Development] AdamG:
Just pushed DevNull-1.0 final with the latest itteration of Android 2.3.4 GRJ22, enjoy :-)

Please wipe if you decide to use this because I changed a number of the default settings and you will definitely notice the difference.
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
Thankyou!!

Bit of a busy day planned but I can bet this will be flashed when I find a spare 20 minutes ;)

M.
[Desire Android Development] inkredi:
I bet AdamG makes our desire the first phone to have Android 2.3.4 :D

I LOVE U MAN!
[Desire Android Development] mattman83:
Can't see any reports of it hitting the N1 or NS yet - so you may well be correct :D

Scrap my previous comments about being busy, I'm going to make some time for this lol.

M.
[Desire Android Development] sashajovicic:
download mirror: update-devnull-1.0-signed.zip
[Desire Android Development] DeSiReIt32:
CDMA

will this work on the CDMA desire thanks alot
[Desire Android Development] StuMcBill:
I am 99.9% sure that it will not work on CDMA.
[Desire Android Development] :
So it took 12 posts before someone ignored this from the first post:
[Desire Android Development] brandall:
I'd love to try this ROM as a big Oxygen fan, but constantly use email on my phone. Gutted!
[Desire Android Development] baliriot:
thanks... will try it...:D:D:D