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[G Tablet General] ThinkerT:
Unfortunately, you're changing the rules of the present discussion with that. The OP stated "Devs work hard. They do the work for free and they should be revered and respected. But make no mistake, they know it and are not afraid to tell you to STFU and GTFO for merely making a suggestion or comment." The implication of that is you SHOULDN'T ask the question, you should just STFU.

IMO, the OP is WAY out of line. If the devs don't want comments/suggestions/questions, then they should keep their dev work private and not open it up for public consumption. Yes, the rest of the community wouldn't benefit as much in that case, but there's no excuse for an arrogant attitude like saying STFU for GTFO if someone merely makes a suggestion or comment on something that's been posted for public consumption.

If the devs are simply doing their work and sharing it just to have people fawn all over them for it and expect not to have to deal with the questions/comments/suggestions of the "unwashed masses", well, sorry, the world (and this site/forum, from my understanding) doesn't work that way.
[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
Its the answering "How do I install clockwork?" question that is posted all the time even tho its clearly posted as a sticky. "I've followed the directions exactly and I cant get TnTlite to install".....wrong....you havent or it would have installed. "When are we gonna get an update to X rom?"......"How come we don't have Honeycomb yet?"....."Your rom bricked my device"....."Why won't someone answer my question? that was posted 15 minutes ago.....The devs do this on their own time and for the most part are happy to answer questions but when its clear that someone has no intention of learning for themselves and just want the info handed to them on a silver platter.......well....it gets old
[G Tablet General] jmeridith:
The OP is out of line with his "psa" unless he speaks on behalf of the collective body of said developers.

This is a rhetorical post, I will not be responding again.

Edit: see what I did there with that last line?
[G Tablet General] xmr405o:
Collaaaaa!!!!
[G Tablet General] Rumbleweed:
If we want to grow the G Tab community ( aka continue to receive the excellent support from the Devs) we need to grow the number of G Tab users. If I were considering a new tablet purchase and stopped by here to check out the G Tab, I would not put it high on my list. If new members post in the wrong section or dup a post, it's Ok to send them a "Friendly" reminder, but to blast them like this is an insult to everyone here. Hell they might even be driven to buy a windows mobile 6 product.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ejatx:
I'm helping a friend with a hand-me-down G1 upgrade from 1.6 to CyanogenMod 6.1 using the wiki cyanogen links, which basically told me to downgrade to RC29 / RC7 DREAIMG.nbh file after reformatting the sdcard, then root the phone using telnet, flash Amon_Ra's Recovery using telnet, flash 2.22.23.02 radio using recovery, then install dangerspl, cyanogenmod 6.1 and tiny google apps.

As far as I know, I followed every step. I did get stuck a couple of times while installing DangerSPL. I'd fastboot and hit call+menu+end and instead of rebooting, it would install dreaimg.nbh again (since I used fastboot to flash dreaimg.nbh earlier and still had it on the root of the sdcard) and I would have to start over again and re-root, re-flash Amon_Ra's Recovery and the 2.22.23.02 radio. That happened twice before I decided to take dreaimg.nbh off of the sdcard, since I realized that it had already been flashed onto the phone and would probably work. Once I did that, the call+menu+end during fastboot worked and it restarted, which is what it was supposed to do. Kept trying and trying to hit the home button as quickly as possible to get to recovery, like the instructions said, but it wouldn't work. So I took a chance and booted into recovery using home+power and flashed Danger SPL, which seemed to install well, and Cyanogenmod 6.1 and tiny google apps. All seemed to be going well until rebooting the system. The cyanogenmod splash screen popped up after the g1 screen and just sits there, stuck in a boot loop. I waited a good 10 minutes before I pulled the battery and tried again...same thing. Also wiped the dalvik cache and cache, which i saw on the first page of this thread, to no avail. Can anyone tell me where I went wrong and what I can do to pull out of it and successfully install this rom? Really want to get this back to my friend. Also hoping his contacts are still on his sim card after all this... I flashed dreaimg.nbh, per the first step, and noticed that the contacts didn't come up after this. The data on the phone works and the phone number shows up under about phone but since I haven't gotten any further than that OS I can't tell. No where have I seen in the instructions that I had to pull my sim card before flashing... hope it's all good. Any help with any of this would be greatly appreciated.

As you can tell, I'm new to all this. I own a Samsung Moment and flash ROM's on it all the time but that process is much simpler than this one. Have never dealt with a boot loop so I'm a little unsure of what to do.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WiserAsIGrow:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=566669 also I just got off that build it's really really slow, try yoshi's gingerbread build.
[Atrix 4G General] psufan5:
So I have to ask... why keep the phone right now? Its obviously really sluggish at most anything it does in regards to the UI. Arent there more 2.3 dual core phone options coming out in the next month or so? Why wait until fall to enjoy your phones dual core power? 2.2 doesnt support it, so shipping it with that is borderline BS if you ask me.

Not to mention AT&T limited the data speeds on it is grounds for a class action.
[Atrix 4G General] ecapox:
Seeing that there is a GRHxx build from.atrix dev phones floating around the atrix dev forum, im going to assume that Gingerbread is going to make its way over to the atrix. When? No one knows. But it will and if id have to guess, id say mid year.
[Atrix 4G General] True2TheGame:
Where'd you get the idea that 2.2 doesn't support multiple cores?
[Atrix 4G General] perdurabo2:
Because of the wealth of people who offer answers and have no clue what they're talking about.

The kernel on the Atrix supports multiple cores. Here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11586435&postcount=9
[Atrix 4G General] colin725:
The amount of misinformation on the atrix is completely insane. Stuff like not using all of the ram, and people thinking one of the cores is useless until 2.3.
[Atrix 4G General] NoNameAtAll:
That's actually good to know.

I had no idea about the core usage, but then again, the Atrix is my first Android phone...hell, it's my first smartphone, so it's been running great thus far.

I am curious about the RAM now though.
[Atrix 4G General] spirit32:
they're just jealous.
[Atrix 4G General] jwhited:
Well, it is AT&T we're talking about. But the Atrix is a flagship phone, so it could go either way. The fact that it didn't ship with Gingerbread is a bit disheartening, though. Here's hoping we see it before Ice Cream.
[Atrix 4G General] nucentury08:
You wont taste icecream gingerbread mabey icecream Atrix 2 understand marketing.
[Atrix 4G General] elementaldragon:
Says the guy who thinks a gyroscope is an important part of phone performance..... Seriously.... i've you have absolutely NOTHING good to say about the Atrix, don't own one, and apparently don't give a crap about it.... why keep trolling the Atrix forums? Besides.... what are the chances that your beloved Nexus S will see the light of Ice Cream? Probably just as likely as the Atrix, or even less so seeing as your Nexus S has half the memory and only a single core processor.

As for the OP.... i'm not sure where you're getting that it's "sluggish at most anything it does in regards to the UI". Even WITH MotoBlur, it's very responsive, and even moreso when using LauncherPro.
[Atrix 4G General] elementaldragon:
And I have yet to see you form a complete and puncuated sentence in all of your rant about gyroscopes and pretty much anything about the Atrix....
[Atrix 4G General] ecapox:
Keep it classy.
[Atrix 4G General] phobos512:
I doubt it has much to do with jealousy. I'm reminded of Agent K's (Tommy Lee Jones) quote from Men in Black:
[Atrix 4G General] blognc:
Actually, a lot of the people think that one of the cores is useless until 2.4. :-) Though, to be fair, 2.4 will supposedly use the Tegra 2 MUCH better than 2.3.

According to that article that examined Froyo update times, Motorola was the fastest on average getting a Froyo update to market among manufacturers, and AT&T was the slowest among carriers, so between the two, I suspect we'll see Gingerbread in no worse a timeframe than average, hopefully better.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
I'm almost positive HTC beat motorola in terms of OS updates.
[Atrix 4G General] psufan5:
Phones going back for a few main reasons:

No HSUPA support. Ridiculous.

Cant produce the color YELLOW... which is simply unacceptable.

Dock limited in resolution so it looks like crap on my LCD monitor.

UI is sluggish, very sluggish. It cant even handle the beautiful widgets animation or the animated gingerbread docks.

Guess ill wait for the Galaxy S 2.
[Atrix 4G General] FLAC Vest:
Wow yours can't? I'm running a lot of programs in the background, streaming HD video from YouTube, and countless other things and I get no lag whatsoever.

Rooted/ROM Captivate

Rooted Atrix
[Atrix 4G General] bl0wf1sh:
I don't have my atrix yet, but from what I've read so far, coupled with common sense, I'd say:

- HSUPA is only supported for iPhone on AT&T. It is a network issue, not a phone issue.

- I am pretty sure it can. Maybe not the exact hue of yellow that you would like, but I would be very surprised otherwise.

- Isn't the dock putting out in HD or qHD? Should be good enough... also, check your settings.

- As mentioned many times across this forum, the UI seems to be quite fast. As you'd expect from a dual core 1GHz processor with kick-ass mobile GPU. It is possible, though, that some apps/widgets are not 100% compatible with it.

Just my $0.02
[Atrix 4G General] psufan5:
HSUPA is a modem issue - if we could hack the boot loader, we could fix it... buuuuuuttt we cant.

The phone cant do yellow, it does brown. Go to wikipedia and scroll down to the actual color of html yellow. Put it next to another phone. Its Gold, not yellow. Might not seem like much but when you put all the other colors in the mix... most of them are way off.

The UI is anything BUT fast. I guess coming from a rom'd captivate I am spoiled. Imagine a phone running live wallpaper without getting choppy. This phone cant do it. It cant even handle beautiful widgets animation when it rains. You are pretty bias about it really, but thats ok. Thats why its the atrix board. Im a dose of reality ;)
[Atrix 4G General] elementaldragon:
So..... again, how exactly do you know that the much-to-be-pointless animated weather widget isn't being choppy on the Atrix due to a software issue regarding the widget itself? You seriously need an animation to tell you it's raining?

I'm also fairly certain i've read in another thread that it is NOT an issue with the phone itself that HSUPA is not working... that someone i believe at AT&T mentioned it is so far only working with the iPhone on THEIR end, and that it should be fixed sometime soon.

And i have no idea what monitor you are using.... not that it matters, but i don't even have the dock... just plugged the phone into our 1080p HDTV using the supplied Micro-HDMI cable (or whichever it is.... mini... micro.... never can tell anymore, really).... and it looks just fine.... and playing a standard definition video (624x352 to be exact. Possibly less-than-standard definition) which looked not really any different than if i were playing it on my computer. I haven't tried hooking it up directly to my monitor since i don't really feel like disconnecting my PS3 right now.... but if i had to guess, if you're talking about an actual PC monitor.... have you ever thought that maybe something with the monitor scaling itself is causing it to not look the way it should?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobloiy:
is there a rom that is 2.2 sense ui with almost everything working?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] user7618:
There are a couple froyo sense roms here. None are fully stable, though they are useable. Try searching the dev board.

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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Gingerbread-on-Hero action here!
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobloiy:
i looked but couldnt find any except the ones that didnt have wifi or camera
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] user7618:
You found them, then. There isn't a fully functional froyo sense rom. Yet.

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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Gingerbread-on-Hero action here!
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJinWV:
Most have wifi. Pancake is the only one that has camera, but it's older, and may not have other features working. Bluetooth audio is the other major function that's missing.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PMGRANDS:
Search my Thread...

ExpressoEnergyHeroc... Although Camera, & Bluetooth are Still a Issue I think youll Really like it! And the WiFi Works, Also its Not going to be Abandoned anytime soon! There Will be Updates!
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fosoriojr:
I notice that the last time that SenseFroyo Heroc v8.5 was worked on was 11/20/2010. Has work stoped on this rom?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AspenTree:
I'm planning on working on one
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PDub11:
How do you paste a copied number into the dialler?

Someone emailed me a phone number, so i copied it and tried to paste it into the dialler or tried to phone using this copied number but couldnt do it.

But the only way i could do it was to create a new contact, paste in the number then call the contact. Awful.

Does anyone have a better way to do this?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
you dont, if the device recognises it as a phone number, you can just click on the number (like a hyperlink in a webpage) and it will copy it to the dialer :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kowalski99:
Did Copy and Paste not Work ?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PDub11:
It didnt as the HTC mail app isn't HTML so didn't recognise it as a number like a website.
[Vega General] PeteGraham:
Hi all,

I've been loving my Vega since getting it a few weeks ago, but have noticed a bit of an issue with the latest firmware. When I installed the Modaco USB Mode Switcher tool, gave it SU permissions and switched to host mode to allow usage of a thumb drive, it rebooted perfectly. I copied over the files from the vega that I needed, and removed the USB drive. Switched mode and rebooted and now when I go into wireless settings, under Wifi it shows Error, and MAC address shows Unavailable. This happened twice now, I reflashed the device thinking I had arsed about with something I shouldn't have changed then installed things one by one testing for a day or so after each install and no sooner had I installed the USB Mode Switch, it happened again.

Is it just me? Have I got a duffer, only it worked ok in 1.08.

Cheers

Pete
[Vega General] O_G:
I have had some trouble with the usb switcher with my rom add-on, thats why i removed it from that thread. I seems to change the boot.img some how. Last time i tried it it changed my green android icon back to the old Booting..... Looks like it needs to be updated for v1.09 firmware.
[Vega General] PeteGraham:
Thanks OG. Glad it isn't just me. Cheers for your hard work by the way.
[Vega General] dazzlet:
So is it not possible to ennable usb host mode on the 1.09 firmware then? This is such a shame because i needed to use my usb pen drive with my vega...... will it be possible aanytime soon?

Thanks
[Vega General] yabbas:
Notch another one with troubles using the USB switcher ...
[Vega General] dopeh:
Yup, had the same thing last week. I installed a clean 1.09 and added OG's clean addon. As there was no usb mode switcher included I installed it from the modaco rom. After a reboot my wifi stopped working, too. I flashed the device and switched to the latest modaco rom (apparently that puts you back to 1.08, though), but dont have much of a choice because I really need the usb switcher.. Hope OG is able to find a fix for this issue..
[General Questions and Answers] tzzoooma:
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[Optimus 7 General] kazman13:
i have a telus lg optimus 7 unlocked and now on the sasktel network. my question is am i screwed for getting these updates because sasktel doesn't recognize the phone as one of there models and i am not on the telus network so they wont push it to me? i cant justify paying 400 bucks for a phone that i cant get the new updates the Microsoft rolls out.
[Optimus 7 General] kapanak:
If you do not get this update, you will get the next one (By mid March) definitely. Microsoft has confirmed that much. I contacted Telus, and it seems they have "no information to offer at this time". Basically, Telus is the only carrier in North America that has yet to offer update for their WP7 devices, but two weeks is not that long to wait, right? Especially considering that this update does...nothing, and all updates are cumulative.
[Optimus 7 General] xdapants:
I'm planning on giving Telus a few more days before complaining loudly, as the rollout was to be staged, so maybe they volunteered to be last on the list :|

Personally, I'm fairly concerned about this as Telus doesn't have the greatest record for updates in the past, and holding this back isn't a good sign (imho).

Even if this minor update is rolled into "no-do", there's no guarantee "mango" won't be an 'odd numbered' update, or that we won't be weeks behind others getting either/both.

From the windows phone team blog

(http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...-answers-about-our-first-software-update.aspx)

So as the rest of the world gets copy/paste, theoretically we telus users could just be getting the pre-nodo update. :(
[Optimus 7 General] bond7734:
I'm right there with you I had the same thought when I read that article. I don't understand why Rogers and Bell both have launched it but Telus hasn't I tweet'd customer service about it and they answered back they had no information about unreleased updates.
[Optimus 7 General] nVd90:
I am hoping that maybe Telus wanted to "save us" from the trouble of doing 2 updates in a fairly short period of time. At least we know that they can't block nodo. Out of curiosity does anyone know how Telus is with android updates?
[Optimus 7 General] xdapants:
I've been looking around all the standard places for more info but haven't come across anything. My fear is that the wp7 userbase on Telus is small enough that they don't consider us a priority. :(

They're mediocre at best.

http://www.androidincanada.ca/category/telus-android/

Another thread discussing similar possibilities for crappy timing/rollout (carriers get 8 weeks?!)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=968990
[Optimus 7 General] bond7734:
I hope that we are considered a priority. I'll do my part and call and bug them maybe if everyone jumps on board we'll get this update.
[Optimus 7 General] kazman13:
i spoke to sasktel and they have already rolled out the patch on there network. but because my phone is telus branded and the zune software see the phone as telus it wont give me the update. sasktel does not recognize my phone for updates so i would assume that's because they don't sell the phone.
[Optimus 7 General] peshkipo:
I'm in the same situation as you kazman. Have an unlocked Telus branded Optimus 7 running on the Bell network, and wondering if I'll get the update when/if Telus releases it.

Will report if I do.
[Optimus 7 General] DrAkO82:
I cannot believe we can't find a solution to get the update...

Like Android, installed custom ROM of WP7 to avoid carrier blocking.
[Optimus 7 General] bond7734:
So I emailed client care about the update, (your gonna love this)

"Hello Justin,

Thank you for taking the time to write to TELUS via e-mail.

Windows has not released any official updates yet. Please refer to the following link for details:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-info.aspx

When an official update is released from the manufacturer, it's also posted on our equipment page specific to your phone:

http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/lg_optimus_7/index.shtml

For further information or assistance, please reply to this message, including your original e-mail and our response. If you prefer, you may also call our Client Care team toll free Monday to Friday from 8:00 AM to 10:00 PM, and Weekends and Holidays from 9:00 AM to 8:00 PM at 1-866-558-2273 (or *611 from your wireless handset).

Thank you for using TELUS' online service and have a great day."

So I have emailed back asking that he double check the site and not just send me to the page that tells people what the next update is but infact to check the update page (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/basics/update-history.aspx) Still waiting on an answer but it's great that they took the time to really look into it :p So I have emailed back and shown them the link and also shown them Bell and Roger's pages releasing it as well as a few carriers with the same phone (LG Optimus 7) that have released it. (because you know that's where they would go next) Will post results on here if I get them.
[Optimus 7 General] kazman13:
that is completely ridiculous. i called a telus store yesterday in Saskatchewan and she told me that they don't know about updates and recommended that i move the date on my phone ahead a year and i should get the update then. but she had just told me a minute ago that there where no updates. they need to get a clue.
[Optimus 7 General] nVd90:
So it seems like Telus just doesn't know what to do with updating the phone. I am a bit surprised and doubtful that Microsoft didn't tell them though. It just shows a huge lack of communication within Telus.
[Optimus 7 General] xdapants:
as I posted in the other thread, I talked to a telus rep who also no idea about the update; but was able to confirm they didn't have to pay MS for it, so we should be getting it.

I've got a 10 year old account with them and made it clear I would be willing to switch carriers if they dropped the ball.

Hopefully we can get enough people telling telus the same that they'll get their act together.
[Optimus 7 General] kazman13:
i would like to know why we cant just get the update from the zune software. and if a carrier such as telus hasn't released the update how does the zune software know not to offer you an update or does telus need to respsond to microsoft that the update is out on there network. how about a new rom from bell or rogers that would solve all our problems.
[Optimus 7 General] xdapants:
It's going to be something like that (e.g. telus tells MS it's approved, WinPhoneUpdate sets the flag to allow it).

I'd assume going to a differently branded rom would solve it, although that'd likely negate access to the telus app store. Another potential issue is that the telus optimus7 is a different model number from the european one. I have no idea which version the mexicans got so there may not even be a viable alternate rom. :|
[Optimus 7 General] Commander Data:
An unfortunate truth

Look guys, this first update was OPTIONAL for carriers. It did not provide any new features and was just a test update before the real update in a week and a bit. Unfortunately for you guys, TELUS decided to not push this one in favour of just sending one update later. You shouldn't be upset at TELUS ... yet. I had an Android phone with them before and just about lost my mind over the update issue, but I think WP7 will be different because MS has more say than the OEMs do regarding Android. I feel bad that you guys are suffering, but it isn't really TELUS' fault.