yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G General] Success100:
You mean that made up patched up coverage map of roaming agreements?

my 3g and 4g speeds are crazy, i normally get between 800k-1.1mbps on 3G and like 7 or 8mbps on 4G. the last major 3G speedtest done rated At&t 1st over 3G (where its available), and Sprint came in at 2nd place. ive NEVER had any signal issues with sprint. And i travel frequently. the truth of the matter is the Sprint vs Verizon battle is never ending, but at the end of the day, it only matters if it works where YOU need it to work at.

Now, I will say that we all know about sprints recent 3G data speed troubles, but im sure they will have it fixed soon. ****ty, but true.

As far as the thunderbolt goes, Im not envious of it at all. The new Snapdragon core + more ram is better, but other than the its just the Evo, with a LTE radio in it. Better than the Evo? yes. Enough to make me switch? No chance
[EVO 4G General] billyapd21:
I agree, it's a slight bump over the Evo. Slighty better screen, processor, and ram. It is a better phone than the Evo but not enough to warrant and upgrade. I'm waiting for a dual core processor and newer OS to make the switch. When that comes I'll upgrade, until then the Evo is still holding it's own especially with the development community we have here.
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
I believe it can also do similtaneous voice and data on 3g as well. Can't remember the name of the 3g upgrade but it has it. I'd get this just based on that alone!

http://phandroid.com/2011/01/26/simultaneous-voice-and-data-over-3g-confirmed-for-htc-thunderbolt/

Edit:

Found the name, it's called SVDO
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
Well i switch from Verizon to sprint , but data is faster (at least in las Vegas and some part California that I been ) and is not to start an argument I was just saying plus I seen all these reports about LTE network having 20 mbps download ???? That's crazy but then again I'll stick with print cause is cheaper and that evo does everything I need :)
[EVO 4G General] Success100:
+1. those 20mpbs are in theory, i.e. perfect loads, distance, signal strength, and all those other factors that go with data speeds. Wimaz is spec'd pretty high just like 3G but real world use is totally different. Im interested to see how well LTE will actually do
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
If youre seriously denying Verizons coverage over Sprints you're crazy. I dont care if its roaming agreements or not NO ONE comes close to having better coverage than Verizon.. period. I'm not even going to mention the data.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
I already have an LTE device.. and there's pretty much no comparison between LTE and Wimax especially in terms of actually being able to use it inside. I've seen the likes of 27 megs down and 10 up at times. And even if the network is saturated 9 times out of 10 itll still be faster than wimax. But none of that really matters at all if you have to live near a tower or stand outside to use it. That's pretty much why wimax is crap to me. I cant even remember the last time I even turned it on.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Verizon's coverage difference over the other major carriers [less T-mobile which IS much further behind] is severely over-hyped.

That map that they keep referring to is complete BS and including roaming on other networks etc.

I'm not saying Verizon's coverage isn't the most, I'm telling you it's not as significantly better as they want you to believe.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
..so Verizon definitely has better coverage, has better 3G data speeds, and will soon have a better and bigger 4G network. You get what you pay for.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Mistakenly misread date for 3g comparisons.

Here's one example where At&t was waaayyyy faster:

http://appadvice.com/appnn/2011/02/att-iphone-slams-verizon-iphone-nationwide-3g-speed-tests/
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Well, no ****. AT&T has HSPA, my iPhone gets up to 5 Mbps on "3g" here. Considering that we're talking Sprint/Verizon, both of which depend on EVDO for 3G, that's kind of irrelevant. But thanks for pointing out that AT&T 3G is also better than Sprints, and they to will have a LTE network by mid year.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Mistakenly misread date.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
These tests were done in 2009/2010 way before Sprints 3G went to ****. Before HSPA/Sprints melt down, Sprint had by far the best 3G in NYC. I had a HTC Touch on a OG SERO plan and used it exclusively for tethering so I should know. This is absolutely not the case anymore.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I don't know everything you're saying but I misread the date as several days ago, not last year.

I admit I was wrong.

My mistake.

The 3g iPhone comparison WAS a few days ago though.

And At&t destroyed Verizon
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Next time make sure to know what you're talking about before you say anything.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
You're gonna be an ass about it because I misread the date, and even admitted to it?

I was going to continue this discussion with more updated information but forget it.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
It's true, you ALWAYS do this. That's why your so annoying.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Excuse me.

When do I ever misread a date?

God forbid that ever happen in life, ON NOES! :rolleyes:

You couldn't even admit you were wrong about the dual-core/single-core battery usage discussion.

Had to put your little spin on it, as always.

At least I can admit when I make a mistake or are wrong.

Good day sir.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Look up the argument we had about dual cores. You'll see that I didn't spin anything. If I remember right your comparison was that your old single core laptop was a lot less efficient than your new dual core one. No ****. We went over this already, you're old one probably had a CPU that used a much bigger process and less efficient design. My argument was how similar Pinetrail based Atom netbooks took a hit once they added dual core Pinetrails. I should know since I upgraded from a HP mini single core pinetrail to a dual core one and lost 2-3 hours of battery life. That's why I wasn't sold on using dual cores.

Comparing a single core 65 nm Cortex A8 (older, bigger, less efficient design) to a dual core 40nm Cortex A9 is not a good argument. As always you see things the way you want to see them.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Make claims about me all you want, pot calling the kettle black much?

As I recall you were actually arguing against that too.

Anyway this thread is not even about these two subjects so it's irrelevant.

I refuse to participate in this pissing contest with you.

Good day sir.
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
Stfu both of you. Jesus.
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
That big red coverage map includes all their roaming agreement and u know when u roam u get slower data rates
[EVO 4G General] rdisanza:
yeah, pretty much the same except for Verizon's twist on it. Instead of 2 cam's, you get 2 Mic's for the surround feature. How stupid is that? Surround sound on a device that has what? 4" of speaker seperation, lol.... GIMMICK!

The 32gig card is nice but I see this as an EVO that Verizon contrated for to appise its customers but I think all they did was take a gr8 EVO phone, remove the forward facing cam, add a 32 gig SD and ad a useless 2nd mic. Surround on a phone, btw, where are the rears, & center speakers? At best, its Stereo, NOT surround. Geeez!!

I'll stick with my 8gig carded Sprint EVO, mini SD's are cheap and readily available if needed. Having both cams instead is a gr8 feature and QIK, well need I say more.

Sprint ROCKS!
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
Mm I'm pretty sure the thunderbolt has a ffc anyways I'll stick with my Evo 8 months already so it has a good run :)
[EVO 4G General] badassdes:
+1........
[EVO 4G General] dougiefresh36:
Yea we could say the HTC Thunderbolt is like going from nexus one to nexus s. Few spec upgrades.
[EVO 4G General] jxr94:
Exactly.

10char
[EVO 4G General] tangstang:
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this.... but AT&T is a sponsor of appadvice. Do you really expect an UNBIASED test from them? I sure as hell don't.
[EVO 4G General] rkb6581:
Is the TB going to have Sense 2.0, because if it is, then that woiuld be enough reason to want it out on the market.... LOL.
[EVO 4G General] Overstew:
Half of my family (cousins, in particular) have ATT and they NEVER have good data speeds anywhere. My Sprint signal is 90% of the time faster than theirs, by atleast 3x.

I did a test with a friend's iPhone as an area that had full signal on both phones.

Mine pulled a 2MB/s download / 700Kbs Upload, while his ran at 550 Kbps down/255 kbps up.

I then ran a 4G test against his 3G for giggles. My 4G speeds were approx. 8 times faster than his 3G, and his iPhone doesn't even have 4G.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Yep... and im still getting it moreso for the LTE though.
[EVO 4G General] DarkAudit:
As they keep delaying the street date, the question becomes which will see the light of day first, the phone, our our port of it's ROM? :D
[EVO 4G General] trevoc1:
Hey all if you look at Best Buy Weekly AD Circular they are advertising the Thunder Bolt Pre Order for 299.99...Yes 299.99 WOW thats with a 2 year contract..:eek:
[EVO 4G General] jgalan14:
I'm guessing is because of the LTE and is not as new I guess , the funny thing is the is being delay so much and didn't even have a dual core processor
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Well if you compare the benchmarks, clearly it doesnt need one.
[EVO 4G General] alexnaoumi:
it boots up in like 10 seconds and has the new sense......and a thicker kickstand
[EVO 4G General] knightwolf123:
That's coming back from hibernate mode. I have that with my evo. Flashed mikz. Desire hd port.

Besides, sprint is better and cheaper. I have three htc evos @ $200 a month. I called verizon, three thunderbolts is $250 a month
[EVO 4G Accessories] banstew:
After running on a treadmill for the first time yesterday and watching it fall down, shoot off the machine, quickly to be followed by me I have decided to buy a running case for the evo. So any suggestions of good brands to get?

I saw this link:http://www.iarmbands.com/Arm-Band-Armband-for-SPRINT-HTC-EVO-4G-LAB-001.htm on androidforums, but haven't really seen anything else
[EVO 4G Accessories] blakjak220:
Google "armbandforevo"... There's one that's specifically made for it- I don't have one yet but it seems pretty good
[EVO 4G Accessories] Tre Lawrence:
Looking for a subtle solution as well...
[EVO 4G Accessories] huludical:
I also need one of these. Might order one from amazon... I'll review it after I use it a few times.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Cherokee4Life:
Me as well

I had a very nice case for my iPod Touch but now that I only use my EVO I need a comfortable easy to use running case.

Hmmmm, I wonder when they will come out with it :confused:
[Android Software Development] Chalup:
Never mind
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidboy13:
They are all red, like this. Anyone know why? I use Screen Shot It.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marvin02:
Use screenshot by gik soft or drocap2.

BTW- this has been covered many times, try searching.
[Atrix 4G General] ronan_zj:
hmm, come on guys, this is the 3rd day after Atrix released.

I think most of us complain about the software on the Atrix, so we can't help it unless Moto really care about their customers and kindly unlock the BL and maybe OTA 2.3. ( There is a huge discussion at MOTO official Atrix forum about the BL)

a few ppl don't like the LCD screen quality, and I know, we are spoiled by AMOLED, and I am still attracted by Inspire LCD when I was at ATT store, but I don't read my phone Screen that much, i don't even watch Moive, play games on it, so its not a big issue coz I have a iPad.

I guess the only hope is we expect moto open the BL like they did on Xoom and Driod.
[Nook Color General] dereksurfs:
Hey All,

I recently rooted my NC, installed Android SDK, etc... The first thing I noticed was how weak the default ADB shell is compared to more full featured Unix shells such as bash. So I searched around looking for a better alternative and I noticed two threads on xda-developers addressing similar issues:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=871628

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=537827

So here is what I'm wondering. Can one of these solutions which were built from the source, such as bash-4.1-arm.zip by gdanko, be placed on an NC? Since I'm new to Nook Development I'm not sure how much of this stuff is interchangeable with developers working on other devices. For exampe this one was created for the Samsung Captivate device. I'm not sure it's even the same Android version as the NC, or if that even matters in this case.

Also are you who use unix shell satisfied with the weaker default ADB shell + BusyBox? After working with Unix for a number of years I much prefer bash whenever possible.

Lastly is there any vi or preferably vim editor? If not what do you use for file viewing/editing?

Thanks,

Derek
[Nook Color General] dereksurfs:
Anyone?

I probably should have posted this in the developers area. But because I'm new on the forum, though not new to the nook or development, I can't post there.
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
vi is already in busybox, or might already be in the shell period.... but I've used it several times already, nothing special here.. Stock B&N rom Auto Nootered with Busybox from Titanium Backup installed.

I think what you're really asking is for busybox to be "installed", ie: lots of symlinks to busybox in /system/xbin so busybox is used instead of the Android shell tools. Custom ROMs will likely have /system/xbin in their path but the stock ROM does not.

I just use busybox cmd when I need to do so.. Be nice if busybox sh worked to launch a shell and use it until ^d but it doesn't.

Besides, really, how much tinkering are you planning on doing in there? All the basic commands work, I doubt you'll be doing any shell scripting beyond simple commands.
[Nook Color General] cyansmoker:
I don't know about those but the bash I'm attaching to this post works.

Theoretically these other bash binaries should mostly work; Bash is a fairly independent piece of code, especially if built with readline statically linked.

Note that it's also the one shell whole philosophy is to provide almost no built-in commands, therefore you will need to rely on Busybox for almost everything.

BTW, Busybox provides a very basic vi implementation.
[Nook Color General] iconoclastnet:
Thank you! That's so much better!

(I really don't understand why they even bother with busybox on anything larger than a wristwatch.)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whitenoiz:
I've downloaded the update and tried to install it, but the update is failing on verifying the system, because it cannot find the Amazon MP3 app. I deleted it a while back!

I've downloaded the stock Froyo ROM so that I can find the files I need.

How do I extract the apk from the system.img file???

Thanks. Steve.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danger-rat:
Unyaffs
[G2 and Desire Z General] hugo_prado:
Hi

I was looking my downloaded apps in the Manage apps settings and found in downloaded apps an app called HTCSync, with a gray low-res icon like the sync icon, with lots of permissions.

The only "relevant" information provided is the version '869'.

I think all HTC apps shipped with the phone should be in "all apps" not in the downloaded ones. :confused:

I have never downloaded this app. Then I uninstalled it quickly.

Is it possible to be a malware or something like that? :eek:
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] mburris:
Thanks to a tweet from Kmob, I just found out about SubSonic.

Its an open source media server that runs on windows/linux/mac and creates a very clean web interface for accessing all your media you have stored on your home network.

I have a windows box that I use as my media storage server. I installed subsonic in about a minute, configured it in under 3 (including setting up the paths to my specific media folders, and opening a port on my router)

They have an android app, installed it on my new atrix... setup the app to point to my router's dyndns address with the specific port I setup and BAM, done.

you select the media item you want to play via the very clean app interface, then it opens in a browser window showing a flash player. Make the player full screen and you are set.

From start to finish, I was watching House in less than 7 minutes.

Links:

Subsonic Web Page

Subsonic Android App (on Android Market website)

Mb
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] GhostXtreme:
Why aren't you using DLNA ?
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] Ririal:
I smell a plug.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] mburris:
Correct me if im wrong, but isnt DLNA for getting media stored on your phone to display on your tv? This lets you play media stored on your pc on your phone... On wifi or even 3g

if by plug you mean trying to pass on information about a program that I found and thought was useful to me, then sure... I guess I'm plugging this

But if by "plug" you are insinuating that I am some how affiliated with the software or might profit from telling people about it, (here, I was going to say something about "plugging" and "your mom", but instead i'll assume you were just trying to be witty, and say...) you are mistaken.

And I plugged your mom :D
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] dbsteelerfan:
nice

nice reply and subsonic seems to be pretty amazing so far. Have not tried over 3g yet but if thats good then id say this is a good find.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] ranova:
I use Plex for all my streaming needs. Works well for $5!

windows and mac servers are avail
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] lemortede:
Does it have any authentication? If it does I might give it a try. I have been struggling to find a good streaming app with security. I have tried orb, plex and several others. Orb seemed to work ok as long as you dont have a large library. Plex didn't see alot of my files because they didn't meet its naming convention. Plex also had no easy way to set up security.

I miss Airvideo. It was and has been my only regret about leaving the Iphone.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] bekarhoo:
DLNA no audio

I am trying to use DLNA via a Windows 7 pc. Video shows up fantastic, but no audio, I hope I don't have to transcode the audio, some of them are AC3 and DTS.

Can Subsonic handle that?
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] mburris:
Yes, you can create multiple users, it even supports Ldap (windows domain user credentials)

I think it even supports ssl, but im not 100% sure on that.

Subsonic handles transcoding flawlessly.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] Ririal:
Apologies, I just briefly checked your other posts and came to the wrong conclusion. I've actually picked this up based on this thread and I'm enjoying it. I had the same issue with video but no audio, and it handles it great. Thanks for the heads up.

p.s. my mom would like to know when you're calling her back.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] lemortede:
So I tried this and over all am happy with it.

I have been tweaking the settings to get things working well over 3g.

My friend on sprint 4G seems to have better results than me.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] dragon19766:
Actually, atrix can be acted as DLNA client which can play media stored in DLNA server. I use PS3 Media server on my mini mac to streaming avi files to my PS3 and Atrix. Only problem is I cannot watch some of avi files because of compatibility issue with codec - Atrix will say "not supported media type" sometimes.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] mburris:
Correction noted, thank you.

Subsonic can install on a mac, and takes very little ram, so there probably wouldn't be much harm in running both (PS3 MS and subsonic) on your mac mini.

The real time transcoding SS does should eliminate any chance of codec compatibility issues.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] s1mpd1ddy:
I can vouch for SubSonic.. been using it for the past month, streams videos FLAWLESSLY. Way better then AirVideo for the iPhone, and a cinch to set up. In order to use the domain from another PC you have to donate, but it works for free streaming to the Android..... love this app so far.

Now if only Android can get the new version of iMobsters that was pulled from the appstore, and NHL 2K11, only then I can finally sell my iPhone 3GS.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] JVogler:
Is this the same as Using the Open Source VLC Player to stream over http or rtsp? I'm using this now, and it works awesome...it converts and streams every file type VLC can play...with no buffering time over Wifi...and bearable buffering over 4G. But, here's the catch for me. You have to have VLC running all the time on PC side, with web interface enabled. So it it's not, I have to log in, remote control computer open VLC.

Is this way an application, or just a process running in the background on PC side? I'm sure I got some of the terminology confused a bit, as I'm not an expert...hopefully it's understandable though.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] aaronssava:
You may host, organize, and broadcast your video and audio to your website, apps, and other platforms without difficulty with Muvi Flex's audio streaming servers.
[Vibrant General] hurricanes52:
Now can anyone tell me if they make a charging dock for just the battery. On my old Samsung Instinct it came with to batteries, there was a plastic case with a charging port you would put the battery in the case and then charge the 2nd battery through the plastic case while you were using the first battery iin your phone. do you guys know if they make anything simliar for our vibrants? im just tired of constantly having to be around an outlet all day. i dont believe in having a smartphone is you cant use its features. Im not going to turn off gps, wifi, screen brightness etc. whats the point i mine as well go back to 99 and buy a flip phone.
[Vibrant General] gopack13:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-CHGPKNVGSTA

Kinda sucks though, since you already got your spare and this comes with an extra one.
[Vibrant General] hurricanes52:
i wonder if ebay has something like that. kinda hefty price (for just a charger in my case) whats a new OEM Battery go for?
[Vibrant General] regP:
Ebay has wall chargers. They usually come with a knockoff battery also. Even if you dont use the knockoff the bundle only costs like $10 so its worth it. I have 2 knockoffs/chargers and though they charge kind of slow the work great as do the batteries.

EDIT: Found one thats the charger only. http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Charger...474841?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1c17ce3759
[Vibrant General] hurricanes52:
thanks, thats what im looking for. hows that working for you??i will be using an OEM battery in it
[Vibrant General] hurricanes52:
what about this one, kind like i described in my origional post. only thing is, has to be charged on a computer. hmmm.... not realy a problem cause its a backup. opinions guys??

http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-Battery-Cha...g kong, i dont know about ordering from there
[Nexus S Accessories] beancookie:
Hey all, just picked up one of these $4 neoprene cases from Ebay and figured I'd give my 2 cents for any others looking to grab one.

(edit: err, can't post links yet. but it is the one with the SAMSUNG logo on it, NOT the one with the android image.)

After using the Silicone Amzer case from Amazon for about two weeks, I begun to realize that I wasn't fully enjoying the aesthetics of the Nexus S. I found myself frequently taking it out of the silicone case just to see how shiny it looked all by itself :)

Received this neoprene pouch two days ago from Ebay (a HK dealer, it took about 10 days to arrive), and am much happier with it. Though I am not OCD about keeping a phone pristine, I am pretty careful with my devices. This pouch allows me to keep it protected when not in use (e.g. in my pocket, in my car, or on my desk), but still allows me to fully enjoy the unencumbered design of the phone.

Anyway, here are some photos. Feel free to ask any questions. For $4, this thing is perfect. Ideally, in the future when more cases come out, I'd like to grab something a little higher quality.
[Nexus S Accessories] CB620:
pm me the link I would like to but one. Thanks
[Nexus S Accessories] CB620:
Found it nvm