yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G Tablet General] cgoogs:
Does this mean we will have honeycomb soon or do we still need the drivers from nvidia?
[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
You still need a boot.img. Just so you know people have had access to the xoom for more than a week already and have been working on this.
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
Thanks, but based on the early indications this fingerprint will actually cause the market to shrink rather than expand. It is interesting to read though as it specifically states nosdcard, and does include the telephony stuff, if nothing else there is potential that once we have a honeycomb port 3G usb modem drivers may become available.
[G Tablet General] GTablet:
I just posted this so we could take a look at what was in it... it is a good read if nothing else ;-)
[G Tablet General] xmr405o:
I would have thanked you but I've exceeded my max per didn't know there was a maximum. You learn something new everyday. :o

Anyways, it's also my understanding that to get the boot.img, the Xoom will need to be rooted. Is that correct? So, is that what we should be really looking for? Xoom has been rooted threads?
[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
Look for "Rom based on Honeycomb". And yes it needs root. It will happen people. Posting endless honeycomb threads is not gonna make it any faster.
[G Tablet General] sverbanic:
Ok I'm kind of a noob, please don't slam me 'frog. Since the whole purpose of Android and the whole Open Source thing is to make source available, don't either Motorola, nVidia or Google NEED to release this Honeycomb-Tegra 2 code at some point. I do realize that there may be proprietary pieces but I thought once you used open source code, you were obliged to release your resulting code to the community. Am I missing something here or is all this chatter just an attempt to get it faster?

I hate seeing all of the teaser threads as well, but I also try to keep an open mind and view it more as humorous than obnoxious. I'm sure the real dev's are quite adept at skipping and ignoring the stupid comments by people like me.

I'm just saying ...
[G Tablet General] xmr405o:
Lol. I shouldn't have posted the last two sentences. It's not like I was saying that I was being impatient. Just wanted to learn that's all.

I'm assuming we'll see a lot of the bits and pieces of the XOOM system posted in here and just wanted to know what's relevant or not.

Thanks again.
[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
Its all good. I understand people wanna learn.

Yes they have to release anything that is open source but if you use linux you can use the nvidea and ati example. They don't release their proprietary libs for their cards and as a result its quite likely when you upgrade your kernel you break your video drivers. Its not so bad now but a couple years ago I couldnt keep an ati card working.

All the endless threads that are repeats make it nearly impossible for noobs to find good information and it makes it harder for me to link the correct posts for noobs to follow. Everyone was new at one time but you will never learn anything if you keep asking and not looking. This is a developer forum....xda DEVELOPERS.... not a customer service forum. Most devs here go out of their way to answer questions as do a few of us power users. My tirades are not directed at people like the 2 previous posts. Its the ones that dont want help. They want someone to hold there hand and type out each and every command for them and supply them a fix for every problem. And they want it now
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
Typically one week is the lead time afforded the trail blazing device for each generation of Android, and then the plain vanilla source AOSP is posted at source.android.com (read about git first, where the kernel is posted). However none of the proprietary information in specific devices needs to be made available right away.
[G Tablet General] MikeTheSith200:
Will th devs that made the honeynook sdk preview be able to update that if they get a Xoom, amd in turn would that help the g tab devs?
[G Tablet General] EwanG:
I'm just curious about how much of a problem the fact that the XOOM has a Gig of system ram rather than 512 megs will be. I could see an easy way to protect some exclusivity under the guise of "ensuring compatibility" where one of the first boot steps is to check for enough available ram...
[G Tablet General] roguey:
Good thing my Zpad has 1 gig ram then eh :P:P:P
[G Tablet General] Alpha06:
boot img and tegra 2 aosp source here

http://android.modaco.com/content/advent-vega-vega-modaco-com/333138/xoom-rootboot-img/#entry1614605

I think.
[G Tablet General] HunteronX:
It's a Xoom boot.img, and the (tegra 2) kernel source for honeycomb (2.6.36).
[G Tablet General] Itchiee:
Ok, per Engadget Xoom has been rooted... Next?
[G Tablet General] thefredelement:
Here are the init files as well: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11615922&postcount=9

You can get a rooted boot image here: http://www.koushikdutta.com/2011/02/motorola-xoom-rooted.html
[G Tablet General] bboyle:
Love it when things start moving at nearly the speed of light,... uh oh, getting dizzy... frog, will you hold my hand?
[G Tablet General] mr.frankm:
The Nook is so heavily supported because it's so god damn cheap for a tablet. (it's really an "e-reader")

there was no touch interface released with the version of honeycomb from the preview sdk.

With a real Honeycomb product (and full SDK) full development is possible.

If you wait, They will build it, we will come. =]
[G Tablet General] jlytle1234:
I learned that this build.prop will disable the detection of your SD card when trying to install an app from the new amazon market. I would get an error stating that I needed an SD card to install an app using the amazon app market.

After I returned my build.prop to the standard Vegan 5.1 build.prop, it worked without a hitch.

I also noticed under the xoom build.prop it did not detect my sd card in the settings screen, although sniffer could find it and let me browse it.
[General Questions and Answers] Euroboy_DC:
Hello!

So, I have a TP2 with WinMo 6.5 Pro. It's always received the corporate security policy, which results in the device telling me that due to company encryption startup is suspended until it's unlocked with a password.

I have made changes to the registry for anything from the 1023 policy (1 instead of 0) to changing the timeout from 15 minutes to 24 hours. But what I really want to do is get rid of the prompt entirely. Can this be done without pushing a new policy? Just by modifying some registry key?

Your help is very much appreciated.

Cheers!
[HTC Aria General] kabell4:
I did the nandroid back-up when I rooted and flashed to Froyo. I'd like to take a look at Gingerbread, but I'm wondering if I do the nandroid backup again, will it save another copy or write over the previous backup? If it does write over, is there a way to save the first copy to my computer or sd card?

Thanks!
[HTC Aria General] L551:
It will create separate backups each time.

Sent from my Aria - CM7 Build 2-5
[HTC Aria General] kabell4:
Excellent. Thanks!
[Kyocera Zio M6000] phazei:
I wrote this up in another forum and it also got lost in the 1.6 thread. Thought I'd pull it out.

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Instructions on how to dump your image manually:

Note: Everything in green is a command to type.

Pre)You installed the Kyocera USB drivers that came with the phone.

Kyocera ZIO - Downloads

Direct: http://www.ziobykyocera.com/downloads/files/M6000_USB_Driver.zip

Also, on the phone: Menu->Settings->Applications->Development->USB Debugging [selected]

Steps:

Root your phone:

[APP] [ROOT] 1-click root for N1 (Latest ver: 1.6.2 beta 5) - xda-developers

Direct: xda-developers

Install Android SDK for windows:

Android SDK | Android Developers

Direct: http://dl.google.com/android/android-sdk_r07-windows.zip

Extract that somewhere convinient, for ex: c:\

You'll need dump_image to get the img, find it here:

My Brain Hurts: Porting Clockwork Recovery to New Devices

Direct: http://koush.tandtgaming.com/test/dump_image

Copy that to the root of your sdcard, we'll use it later.

Lets connet to your phone.

Plug it in to the usb, make sure it is not mounted for reading the sdcard. On the phone, in the notification window tap the 'usb connected' notice and select "don't mount".

Now in windows, click Start->Run and type cmd.

cd \android-sdk-windows\tools\

adb.exe devices

It should list your device if all has gone well.

adb.exe shell

It should have connected to the phone and you have a "$" prompt.

su root

Now look at the phone, the Super User program (was installed after 1-click-root) should have popped up and asked if you want to allow root access, allow it.

Now you are at a "#" prompt.

Installing dump_image:

dump_image should be on the root of your sdcard from step 3.

Copy it to your bin directory:

cat /sdcard/dump_image > /system/bin/dump_image

Give it executable permission:

chmod 6755 /system/bin/dump_image

What to dump:

cat /proc/mtd

You're going to want to copy the output of that to the forum.

There should be a number of lines begining with

mtd#

and the last name column has the name we'll need in quotes.

The dump:

mkdir /sdcard/dumped

dump_image boot /sdcard/dumped/boot.img

That just pulled the boot image. We need to do that for all the other images now:

dump_image name_here /sdcard/dumped/name_here.img

There could be 6-8 of them. Total will take a couple hundred megs.

Final:

Now we have it all, so zip up the files in /sdcard/dumped and put it on megaupload.com or something like that and post a link and the output from "cat /proc/mtd"

:cool: And that's it :D

Simple, yeah?

Some of those partitions that were listed in /proc/mtd are probably not needed, but I'm not certain as to which ones those are. I'm guessing "cache" and "userdata" probably aren't needed.
[Kyocera Zio M6000] phazei:
There was some issues with using the dump_image on yaffs2 partitions. For those the yaffs2 utility is useful. Here's some more info that was in the 1.6 thread:

Get it here:

http://jiggawatt.org/badc0de/android/mkfs.yaffs2.arm.tar.gz

(I attached it as well since that's the only place I could find an actual working version)

There's also a utility to extract the yaffs2 image (source)

You can also google for "mkyaffs2image" which is for something I can't recall.

Kind of shows how to use it in the middle of this section:

http://jiggawatt.org/badc0de/android/index.html#dynamic

Other useful info:

#cat /proc/mtd
dev: size erasesize name
mtd0: 01080000 00020000 "fota_amss"
mtd1: 00400000 00020000 "boot"
mtd2: 06780000 00020000 "system"
mtd3: 011e0000 00020000 "flex"
mtd4: 00500000 00020000 "recovery"
mtd5: 0ba60000 00020000 "userdata"
mtd6: 00600000 00020000 "fota_boot"
mtd7: 06780000 00020000 "cache"
mtd8: 000c0000 00020000 "misc"

#mount
rootfs / rootfs ro,relatime 0 0
tmpfs /dev tmpfs rw,relatime,mode=755 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,relatime,mode=600 0 0
proc /proc proc rw,relatime 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw,relatime 0 0
/dev/block/mtdblock2 /system yaffs2 rw,relatime 0 0
/dev/block/mtdblock5 /data yaffs2 rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime 0 0
tmpfs /mnt/asec tmpfs rw,relatime,mode=755,gid=1000 0 0
/dev/block/mtdblock7 /cache yaffs2 rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime 0 0
/dev/block/mtdblock3 /data/FLEX yaffs2 rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime 0 0
/dev/block/vold/179:1 /mnt/sdcard vfat rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1015,fmask=0702,dmask=0702,allow_utime=0020,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0
/dev/block/vold/179:1 /mnt/secure/asec vfat rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1015,fmask=0702,dmask=0702,allow_utime=0020,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0
tmpfs /mnt/sdcard/.android_secure tmpfs ro,relatime,size=0k,mode=000 0 0

So

boot	not yaffs2
system	yaffs2
recovery	...most likely yaffs2
userdata	yaffs2
cache	yaffs2
misc	...no clue
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Spz0:
I've also tossed a bug in clockworkmods ears -- maybe if enough people request, we can get a fully supported recovery through rom manager. :)
[Kyocera Zio M6000] Spz0:
dump_image data /sdcard/data.img

can't find data partition

is this a yaffs2 partition?

edit: mkfs.yaffs2 allows me to dump the partition, dump_image will not.

Could you clarify, ftr, what filesystem each of the partitions are?
[Kyocera Zio M6000] phazei:
I added more info the the second post about the yaffs2 and partitions.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MythXIII:
I flashed a rom and to do format i had to use amon ra recover when i reloaded it stayed at the whitescreen reloaded it via battery reset now i have no recovery screen just black screeen red triangle exclamation! decided i would just return to stock loaded ruu in phone as PC36img now phone reads file and fails to install mt screen fails for update i can get to bootlader/hboot screeen and the red x scene. Please Help Me
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mkeena0305:
Try to Push a different pc36img through hboot usb
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MythXIII:
i hate that this is my first post here, ty for helping on so i can get to the hboot screen it doies the parsing it gets to radio vz anf fails that and doesnt load how do i get a new pc36img on the phone thru usb?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rugedraw:
If you can get into the bootloader screen now, just drop the pc36img.zip file into the root of your SD card and the boot loader should read it automatically when you load it. Make sure you don't name it pc36img.zip.zip by mistake. You'd be surprised how often it happens.
[EVO 4G General] Phillysphinest1:
So ladies, Gents & phone enthusiats alike...

Dont take this is as much as a complaint just looking for like minded folk to collectively vent. I love flashing and tryin different roms/mods/themes just as much as the rest of you but one of the things i come to check 1st in a ROM are the "Known issues/Things Not Working" section. Seems as though the majority have 4g/hdmi NOT working. Idk bout the rest of you guys but i purposely bought a 4G PHONE TO BE 4G and nothing less. Simply put i cant fathom even downloading a 4g-less ROM.

There are only a few out there with it actually working....and some of them frankly suck. I wish i had the patience/time/know-how to develop my own. I do however appreciate the efforts of the gracious folk that put in their time to make all this possible. So to you guys specifically.....PLEASE I BEG OF YOU NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT (which im sure it is) PLEASE INCORPORATE A WORKING 4G IN YOUR ROMS TO COME.

/MINDLESS RANT
[EVO 4G General] huludical:
I love 4g too but Myns warm z is too good not to use! I use 4g for slingbox and playon... We'll see how long I can last without it
[EVO 4G General] Malikione:
why don't you just develop your own roms then?
[EVO 4G General] eluno:
thier are a few roms that 4g. like sprintlovers rom.
[EVO 4G General] wingzfan:
Is it just me or does the title and the image both suggest he doesnt want 4G yet is demanding it be implemented?

Now onto the post. Frankly I couldnt give 2 s#@$s about 4g since I dont have it in my are nor will it be here for at least a year. Also a TON of people dont care either even if they do have it because its a battery hog.

Soooooooo, instead of demanding something thats not possible, create your own rom with 4G or accept what there is and be frickin happy you have an option over the stock crap in the first place.
[EVO 4G General] IOInterrupt:
Try out CM7 nightly build #6, which just got WiMax added today.
[EVO 4G General] eliporter:
thank you based god
[EVO 4G General] cphancock1:
an explanation

4g and hdmi are built into sense 1.0. So if a rom is sense based it has 4g working. If its asop (cm, miui not really asop but kinda :)) or sense 2.0 like warm z then those things dont work. BUT as was stated team win developed a way to use 4g on cm roms. Theoretically this could spread to other roms such as how using the camera spread from cm to miui ect.... who knows soon because of the hard work of these devs all roms will have 4g. So just enjoy and stop complaining about things you get for free.
[EVO 4G General] iahk:
lol i read it the same way, i thought he was just pulling humor from the people saying they won't use a custom rom due to no 4g.

You will find in due time that as of right now, 4g is just a meh unless you really do use it. I lived in 2 cities that have 4g, Orlando and Raleigh and when I got my phone, i was just like you. omgggggg 4g or i won't use!!!11

But in all seriousness, there hasnt been many occasions where i actually needed it. Sometimes when I wanted to view or show a youtube video in high quality and I wasnt in a wifi area... and that's all I can really think of. But like mentioned above, if you want to keep 4g on, your battery will suffer. So regardless, if i'm paying for it or not, i'm not really using it at all. It's like 5% of my usage.
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
You realize AOSP roms have to reverse engineer and completely build from the ground up drivers that do the same thing as those manufactured by a multi billion dollar corporation. And they have to do it at night after they get off work. For free. You do realize this, right?

Also your timing couldn't be worse as CM7 now officially has 4g. And yes they built it themselves.
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
Am in Chicago...haven't chosen a 4G Rom in a while.

4G's a crock for me. Its only significantly faster with a very strong signal (which is less than half the time). And its a bigger crock indoors. So plain not worth it.

(I don't go speedtest apps btw (4G always looks good there)...I use some standard sites and measure the time it takes to download..

4G sucks.
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
I should say SPRINT 4G sucks. T-Mobile speeds much closer to 4G capability.

Will be breaking contract to take up Galaxy SII or LG this spring.
[EVO 4G General] skylar.sutton:
Since you're feeling quick to judge and critique... I'd like to remind you that 3G data connectivity and WiFi are BUILT INTO ANDROID.

4G on the other hand, has to be completely built by scratch by the ROM developer.

I don't deny the value of including 4G in a ROM, but please know that a developer might spend hundreds of hours trying to get it working / writing it from scratch.
[EVO 4G General] dadoc04:
Lmmfao.... spoken like a tru NT'er

Sent from my HTC Evo
[EVO 4G General] lost_man10002:
This post has nuting but fail in it...noones paying developers to do what they do...You developers rock and don't have to do anything with their roms just cuz you want them too.../end rant lol

p.s. CM is asop and just reverse engineered wimax that by itself is a a epic achievement and they do these kinds of things cuz they want to../end 2nd rant lol
[EVO 4G General] ResidentEvo:
I too want try out Warm Z but Im gonna wait until it has 4g. Kings Ultra is just fine right now, been rocking it since monday.
[EVO 4G General] Phillysphinest1:
Obviously your NOT very good at reading. If you were you'd see that i clearly said this was NOT a complaint. Merely a rant. And i also gave praise to guys that dedicate their time to develop these thing. Sorry dude...your post was unneeded. Read carefully next time.

^^Thanks, i'll do that^^

Again a NON-reader. I clearly stated that i understand building 4g from scratch wasnt a 2 second process. I also CLEARLY stated that i give props to all the guys that spend their time doing this. I even wish i had the time to do it on my own!!!

You guys PREACH reading but cant read a simple post or even distinguish a simple complaint from a rant to save your lives. Its all good tho!! Love you ****ers & this board!!!!:D
[EVO 4G General] bkrodgers:
Um, what's the difference between a complaint and a rant? If there is a difference at all, isn't a rant worse than a complaint?
[EVO 4G General] jstalford:
There are TONS of ROMs with 4g to choose from. Also, just b/c you say something isn't a complaint, doesn't mean you can just say anything after that and it won't be perceived as one.

Kinda like:

"with all due respect, Mr Dennit ... I had no idea you had gotten experimental surgery to have your balls removed"
[EVO 4G General] sdc177:
So I went to Burger King today and they wouldn't sell me a Big Mac. Kind of pissed me off. Then I went to Wendy's and they didn't have any either. Idiots! I'm just not going to eat at places that don't have Big Macs! Going to try Taco Bell tomorrow. Dammit.
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
Wow what he said to you didn't deserve what you called him back. He simply explained that it's a bigger undertaking than your first post showed your understanding of the work involved to be. Did you know before his post that it took Shiznul and toast and a bunch of testers over 4 months of their free time to get 4G on CM to where it is? Because if you did then your post made it sound like you didn't.

Also even though the first guy you responded to was rude with the rest of his post, he's right your title does say "4G in Rom's is a dealbreaker for me..." Your title and post are contradictory.
[EVO 4G General] jxr94:
I bought the Evo because it was the top of the line phone sprint had at the time. I have 4G, but i really don't mind giving it up to try other roms with other features. I do understand where the OP is coming from though.
[EVO 4G General] myn:
I'd encourage you to put your ranting energy into positive contributions instead of negativity.

You do realize hopefully that the roms that don't currently support 4G were never designed for our EVO phones right? You also do realize a ridiculous number of developers and hours are put into attempting to get 4G working correctly too?

As I mentioned to you before. If you'd like to contribute to this

developer

forum please do. I am completely willing to help you out. But please don't troll and bring down the developer spirt. That's what keeps devs like me going.

Thanks.
[EVO 4G General] -shift-:
this thread made me lawl.
[EVO 4G General] lost_man10002:
Well said myn a quality developer mods plz delete this useless thread
[EVO 4G General] SnoopDawg:
It would probably be best if you unrooted your phone and traded it and your watch in for a different phone. Maybe you can become a meego developer.
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
Are you joking, OP? MOST of the available ROMs have working 4G. The vast majority of the ROMs we have are based on the official HTC Sense ROM and have all of the features working. You must not have looked hard enough, either that or you can't read.
[EVO 4G General] madflasher:
........LOL!
[EVO 4G General] xfullmetal17:
CM7 has working 4G? Now if only battery life were as good as MIUI...

Still probably going to check it out, I've been waiting for a Gingerbread ROM to get 4G working...
[EVO 4G General] chairman_meow:
I don't know, I haven't been impressed with WiMax. I can't keep it turned on all the time b/c of battery drain, and then when I do want to use it, I have to wait a minute or two for it to connect (if there's even coverage).

Anything I wanted to do could have been accomplished faster over 3G, so what's the point?

For me it's a nice-to-have, not a must-have.
[EVO 4G General] wingzfan:
Ok first off what I said was far from "rude". Its a fact, you either create your own or be happy you have the choices you have.

Secondly, to say you were "ranting" as opposed to complaining is kinda comical. Basically if I understand you from reading what your saying then you were merely very loudly and violently expressing your dislike for non-4g roms. Your right, I definitely see the difference.

Now I didnt mind so much that you dont like non-4g roms as I did your comment:

"There are only a few out there with it actually working....and some of them frankly suck"

Someone put alot of effort and time into those roms that "frankly suck" and whether its up to your standards or not you are in no position to judge someone when your not doing anything to contribute to development around here in any way shape or form.

Then you say "no matter how difficult it is put 4g in your roms". If it was readily possible Im sure they would do just that. To make a thread calling all those non-4g roms out is a bit pretentious and absurd if you ask me, which you didnt but oh well.

You have many choices on 4g working roms and non 4g working roms, dont be greedy and enjoy having options.