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[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KCRic:
Good job on being a douche. I didn't insult you in anything I said and if you disagree over my perspective then state it otherwise shut up. I didn't tell you english grammar isn't your forte so maybe you should keep your senile remarks to yourself.

You seem to want to argue over a few technicalities and I'll admit, I don't have a PhD in computer engineering but then again I doubt you do either. For the average person to begin to understand the inner-workings of a computer requires you to set aside the technical details and generalize everything. When they read about a Mac, they will see the word Unix which also happens to appear in things written about Linux and would inevitably make a connection about both being based off of the same thing (which they are). In that sense, I'm correct - you're wrong. The average person doesn't differentiate between 'is' and 'based off', most people take them in the same context.

So I may be wrong in some things when you get technical but when you're talking to the average person that thinks the higher the CPU core clock is = the better the processor, you end up being wrong because they won't give a damn about the FSB or anything else. Also, when you start flaming people and jumping them over insignificant things you come off as a complete douche. If I'm wrong on something then tactfully and politely correct me - don't try to act like excerebrose know-it-all. Let's not even mention completely going off track about about Windoze, servers aren't the only things that have multi-core processors.

I'm sure you'll try to multi-quote me with a slew of unintelligent looking, lame comebacks and corrections but in the end you'll just prove my point about the type of person you are. ****The End****
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhkr234:
Agreeing or disagreeing is pointless when discussing FACTS. Perspective has nothing to do with FACTS. You can think whatever you like, but it doesn't make you right.

Common mistake, assuming that everybody is the same as you. Try not to make that assumption again.

Generalizations lead to inaccuracies. You do not teach by generalizing, you teach by starting from the bottom and building a foundation of knowledge. Rene Descartes (aka Renatus Cartesius, as in Cartesian geometric system, as in the father of analytical geometry) said that the foundation of all knowledge is that doubting one's own existence is itself proof that there is someone to doubt it -- "Cogito Ergo Sum" -- "I think therefore I am". Everything must begin with this.

... and need to be CORRECTED for it. The two kernels (the only components relevant to this discussion) are completely different! MACH is a MICRO kernel, Linux is a MONOLITHIC kernel. Superficial characteristics (which are OUTSIDE of the kernel) be damned, they are NOT the same thing and thinking that they are is invalid. The average person is irrelevant, FACTS are FACTS.

So are you trying to tell me that IGNORANCE is BLISS? Because "giving a damn" or not has NO BEARING on reality. The sky is blue. You think that its purple and don't give a damn, does that make it purple? No, it does not.

Right, servers AREN'T the only thing running multi-core processors, but did you not read where I SPECIFICALLY said **SERVERS**? Wondoze is off track and UNRELATED. I brought up servers because THEY USE THE SAME KERNEL AS ANDROID. If a supercomputer uses Linux, do you not agree that Linux is CLEARLY capable of multiprocessing well enough to meet the needs of a simple phone?

... perfectionist, intelligent, PATIENT in dealing with ignorance. And understand that ignorance is not an insult when it is true, and contrary to common "belief", does NOT mean stupid. Learn the facts and you will cease to be ignorant of them.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJBunch1228:
So hopefully this train can be put back on the tracks...

From what I am understanding from more technical minded individuals, Dual Core should help with battery life because it requires less power to run the same things as single core. It can then probably be extrapolated that when pushed, Dual Core will be able to go well above and beyond its Single Core brethren in terms of processing power.

For now, it appears the only obvious benefit will be increased battery life and less drain on the processor due to overworking. Hopefully in the near future more CPU and GPU intensive processes are introduced to the market which will fully utilize the Dual Core's potential in the smartphone world. Thanks for all the insight.

dhkr234 - *slaps air high-five*
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KCRic:
Thanks, the person with better grammar already knew what the definition of ignorance was. You took a simple question with a simple answer and insulted people along with complicating it. What you need to remember is that it's not what you say - it's how you say it that defines your words. Learn that facts and you'll cease to be ignorant. Alas, I see wikipedia is working for you very well though. I saw those very same articles months ago which resemble most of your statements verbatim. Copy and paste, plagerism? Touche, seems to be the way of the world today but we're not worried about that here. Just because I say things in a basic way so most people can get the basic idea (general ideas are the foundation, not technicalities), doesn't mean I think everyone is like me. It's just another way of stating what you are stating also because while you may understand all of the technical details not everyone else will. Take your own advice.

This thread has gone way off course though so since you seem to want to contradict everyones opinion (which is what my original post was), you can have you little internet win. It seems to mean a lot to you and far be it from me to take that away. Now back to the topic.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daaango:
holy **** you can see into the future
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flippy125:
I am sorry for my mistake. The battery usage actually has to do with how fast the little mice in the microscopic wheels run for the mini cheese. The unicorns decide on that since they supply the mini cheese. If you want to know how much battery life there will be please ask the unicorns.

This thread makes me lol

Sent from my HTC Vision with Habanero FAST 1.1.0
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJBunch1228:
Yes but the unicorns work more hours than there are in a day, so they are hard to get a hold of.

I guess you could say they are.......overclocked.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flippy125:
Well technicalities aside, a dual core phone gets the same performance as the G2 overclocked but with much better battery life

Sent from my HTC Vision with Habanero FAST 1.1.0
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sino8r:
Exactly! And whats-his-name was saying that voltage has nothing to do with power consumption. Ridiculous statement really...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flippy125:
Yup... I think he is getting half the concept. The components of a cpu in a dual core have to be smaller to fit. The smaller components require less voltage causing less battery loss by using the same voltage as before.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kgold708:
Sorry guys I gotta side with the professor on this. 35nm is as small as components get!! They can't just make things smaller cause its a dual core.

As far as battery use, well they can turn cores off, but the switches consume power. I'd bet that agressive undervolt/underclock of a single would be more efficient.

Multiple cores only have an advantage when you need more processing than is possible with a single.BTW they will still use more power.

It has to do with the length of the wires, heat dissapation properties of the substrate, speed of light, etc.

IMHO Dual core phones are a gimmick, except for cpu/gpu setups where they are designed for different jobs. But don't worry soon we won't have a choice:rolleyes:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomlin06:
Hey guys, I need some help here. The other night I tried rooting my htc evo with unrevoked. After installing all of the necessary driver and letting unrevoked run its flash, my phone comepletely messed up. The phone booted up like normal one time. I saw the app with the little ninja, superuser or something it was called. There was no unrevoked app or anything. I no longer had the option to change from usb to charge only or anything like that. The phone then vibrated 5 times and the screen shut off with the green l.e.d. flashing. Since then I was never able to get my phone to boot up normally. I could only get to the hboot screen or recovery screen. My hboot screen has said s-on ever since then. I tried installing new roms and everything. My computer would show the bootloader interface under the android phone but my phone would never mount sd card. Everytime I tried to unzip the PC36img.zip it kept saying unable to mount sd card installation error. I've tried all the sd card commands and every solution on any forums. I was so frustrated I simply put my sd card into an old phone and formatted it removing every single thing that was on it.

Today I picked up a sd card adapter hoping it will help.

Now I want to know how I can comepletely start over with a blank sd card. I need someone to point me in the right direction using a GREAT set of instructions. I want to know what the best ROM is to flash onto my phone. Every set I have tried to follow has not helped. I know this is user error but I want to keep trying instead of giving up and buying a new phone.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to read my thread. I know it's a lot of pissing and moaning.

Someone please help me. I loved my EVO even when it was completely stock. I do want it to still be rooted with a custom ROM.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cruise350:
First off, you are not suppose to be unzipping the files. The PC36IMG.zip goes onto the sd card in the root directory. If you have unzipped the file, chances are you corrupted it so I'd advise you to download it again. If you are new to this I would recommend Sprint Lovers rom since it is mostly stock and everything works. Its a good starting point. So, now that you have a good PC36IMG.zip file on you freshly formatted SD card, stick it back in your phone, boot into the bootloader and select hboot. The phone should find the PC36IMG.zip file and read it. It will then ask you if you want to perform the update. Once the update is done it will reboot. It will take a while for you phone to boot up the first time. It may be on the boot screen for several minutes and then another several minutes on the boot animation. Good luck and once your phone is up and running do a nand backup so you have a good way to get back to the beginning if you stumble again.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomlin06:
I never unzipped the file. I think i just simply overloaded the sd card with stuff and it was confused. Do you have a good link with a good garanteed download of that zip file?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
You might also want to double check for Windows settings. If you aren't displaying extensions you might be naming it pc36img.zip.zip (with the second .zip being invisible.)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomlin06:
the naming of it is fine. I double checked them over and over. for some reason on the hboot screen when it was scanning for it it wouldn't find it or show up on my revoery screen when trying to upload zip file. I took my sd card out and put it in my video camera and hooked it up to the computer to view the files. It was on the root of my sd card, however my computer only recognized it as a removal G: drive. My sd card still showed all of my folders from before. So I formatted it and when I get home I'm going to download a new one and put that on the sd card making sure it is the absolute only thing on the sd card and maybe that will work
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomlin06:
also should i try and uninstall any driver or any of the unrevoked stuff from before I start over fresh?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomlin06:
Also now since i formatted my sd card, I can no longer go into the clockwork recovery mod. When i try to click recovery on the hboot menu it goes to htc white screen and vibrates five times and shuts off. Should I just go with the amon ra recovery this time?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
I've always preferred Amon Ra over Clockwork and am actually pretty bummed that Amon won't be working on my MT4G.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomlin06:
so should I put amon ra on my sd card with the new pc36img.zip and flash them together at the same time? or do I have to do the pc36img.zip first?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
Pretty sure pc36img will overwrite everything including recovery so do that first and then ra recovery later.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomlin06:
so i tried to put my samsung 8 gb mini sdhc into a sandisk card reader and my computer won't recognize. is it because my sd card in an sdhc?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
Nope, mine recognizes just fine. Maybe all this is a bad sdcard??
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomlin06:
i got the pc36img.zip onto the sd card. when i put the card into my evo the evo tries to load a pc36diag.zip? it doesnt find it then it finds the pc36img.zip then a blue status bar loads on screen for a minute or two and then it says checking pc36img.zip then goes back to hboot screen. this hasnt happened before. do i need to download whatever this ps36diag.zip? my clockworkmod recovery still will not mount sd card
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
Once it loads the update it should ask you to press a button to begin the update. You just put it on the sddard, boot into hboot and then follow the prompts. It really couldn't be simpler.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomlin06:
thats why im so confused, it never asks me to update anything
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
The file isn't named PC36IMG.zip.zip is it?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomlin06:
no its not name pc36img.zip.zip alsoi just in case this makes a difference here is what my hboot screen looks like

supersonic evt2-3 ship s-on

hboot-2.10.0001

microp-041f

touch panel-atmelc03_16ac

radio-2.15.00.11.19

oct 15 2010, 12:07:00

does this all look correct?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
Are you letting it sit for awhile? Typically it will ask you to press power or the trackpad to start the update. I've used SAPPIMG.nbh on my mt3g and PD15IMG.zip on my mt4g to restore the phones to stock with none of the issues you're describing.

Keep trying I guess. It sounds like you're making slow progress.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Well S-ON, not fully rooted. Did you let it sit for a minute and ask for the update?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomlin06:
so i finally got my phone to load the pc36img.zip. and i got to select update. Now when the phone boots up it will not detect the sd card
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
So booting into the rom okay? And try formatting it on your computer, or rebooting the phone first.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomlin06:
what exactly do you mean by all that?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Well you said the phone boots up, so I assume you can make calls, ect. And I mean connect your sdcard to your computer via adapter and format it [erases all data so back it up first]
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
You can format the sdcard with the phone itself. Menu, settings, storage.

You just need to explore a little before posting.

Sent from my HTC Glacier
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] didge3:
Sorry if this has already been posted somewhere, I am new to xda and haven't really looked around the website yet, but I look forward too doing so.

I recently rolled back my software from version 1.72 (the dreaded version, which all DHD users know causes root to be impossible) to 1.32 and then permanently rooted it again and turned S-OFF (I used this guide http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=905003 - Thanks to the person who made this!)

but getting to the main point, now I have got beloved root back, is there somewhere I can get a list of the ROMs available for my phone? Can you recommend any, I had a lot of experience with Cyanogen-mod on my G1 (currently running an unofficial CM7 2.3 ((Very Slowly)) but I want to try something else possibly? so What's available? and What do you recommend?

Thanks in advance.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] maly888:
ROM's for DHD: http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=765

Recommend... try Android Revolution HD 2.0.13 (14) :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ccc2nd:
Tried arhd and leedriod n have stuck with the later as its better on battery usage imho
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] retskrad:
IS there a ROM that has better battery life than HTC's original ROM?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] maly888:
for eg. arhd and leedriod
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sgtagem:
If you find a rom you like you could always just use something like cpu tunner or set cpu to lower cpu freq when your screen is locked and such. that would help with your battery problems and allow you to enjoy your fav roms :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamesfrom818:
Its currently running CM7 RC1 and I've got an Otter Box on it.

I'm thinking of switching over to Verizon with the Thunderbolt coming out soon. I upgrade phones within a year and I think Best Buy's Buy Back program is perfect for me.

How much do you think I can get out of it?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raitchison:
According to Swappa they seem to be selling for $340-$450

http://swappa.com/buy/htc-g2-t-mobi...ons=excellent&conditions=good&conditions=fair
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tackleberry:
Just look around on ebay. I will say this it was hard to find one that was under 300 bucks. If you are rooted people have been charging a lot more upwards of 400

From my permarooted overclocked HTC G2 with cyanogen 7 nightly via XDA app
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dietotherhythm:
install snesoid and the phone's value with instantly be worth over 6000!

delete system 32 and your pc will run faster!

smoke menthol cigarettes if you didn't brush your teeth today!

search ebay and maybe you won't have to ask to reassure yourself of a price!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martonikaj:
Just depends if you can find someone to buy it for the price you ask. I mean these things are really subjective to the buyer.

I bought my G2 used with a little wear on it with a 16GB MicroSD card for $285. But I see them go online if they're rooted in pristine condition with extras for close to $400.

I just old my rooted Evo 4G for $390 if that gives you any indication. That phone came out in June.
[EVO 4G Accessories] blakjak220:
Is there a music dock for the Evo anywhere?

I'm NOT talkin about a car dock, or a charging/syncing dock or just external speakers that plug into the headphone port...

I mean a dock like the millions of them that are available for the iPhone that is an actual stereo where the phone docks into it and charges/plays music at the same time..

I have looked everywhere and cant find one.. seems like the only thing that the iPhone has that my Evo doesnt that I actually want

Any ideas?

Oh, and something that you "rigged" up that does the same thing might be interesting to see also..
[EVO 4G Accessories] _MetalHead_:
You're not going to find anything made specifically for the EVO. The best bet is to find a universal one that has USB charging capabilities. I can't recall one off the top of my head but I'm sure they are out there.
[EVO 4G Accessories] blakjak220:
Yeah, I really wasnt expecting to find an "EVO specific" one but I cant even find a universal one that's not a complete piece of crap that is so inconvenient to use that it's not worth it...

Am I the only one that wants one of these or what? There has to be a bir market for a really good universal one that non-iPhone users can buy... Maybe I'm missing something
[EVO 4G Accessories] Neipas09:
YES, YES, a million times YES on someone making this!

I would buy it in a heartbeat!!!
[EVO 4G Accessories] thacounty:
I want one of these. I am actually in the process of making one out of wood. I am thinking of shaping it like a regular dock, and using a good acoustical wood. Got the idea from here.

I am thinking this would work great. Maybe take a charger and run it up so that you can plug it in, and use the acoustics of the wood to amplify the sound. Just a thought.
[EVO 4G Accessories] JustRuin:
So there are no MicroUSB docks anywhere??

I figured someone would have made one :confused:

I've been thinking about one, and it would be cool

I guess even a dock with a USB port so one could connect the cable to it would be fine

sigh
[EVO 4G Accessories] blakjak220:
That's not a bad idea,,, I can build pretty much anything so I'll be looking into this, thanks
[EVO 4G Accessories] jobryan26:
I would think your best option would be to just get a bluetooth speaker set or one designed for the ipod and use a ipod>bluetooth adapter like this one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190398627547&rvr_id=213403115911&mfe=sidebar
[EVO 4G Accessories] blakjak220:
I had seen one of these back a while ago but I guess I just forgot about it... That does seem like the best option. I've never used bluetooth to stream music but I assume it works well and will play with music on my SDcard as well as Slacker and the like?
[EVO 4G Accessories] dcmtnbkr:
Absolutely. I have a set of bluetooth headphones that are really sweet and i use them with pandora, music app, audiogalaxy etc...
[EVO 4G Accessories] Bizdady:
My wife was asking this just the other day. She hates plugging in to the ear phone jack. I might try that bluetooth receiver idea.

Sent from my Evo CM7 RC1
[EVO 4G Accessories] huzvi88:
I used the FIPO for quite a while (till I lost it) I think there was a guy on there that was selling them for cheap (around $10 IIRC), but it worked flawlessly every time and the sound quality was not bad at all....
[EVO 4G Accessories] blakjak220:
What kind of bluetooth headphones you have?.. I take it you're pretty happy with them..
[EVO 4G Accessories] 360hype:
Nice!

Great idea, thanks man!