yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Optimus 7 General] xdapants:
That doesn't really disuade any concerns.

It's not just a test and no user visible features does not equal not necessary - think API changes before mango

My main fear is that something I'll deem critical will be in one of these minor updates, and telus will make me wait 6 months till the next major update instead of just pushing me the fix.

I concur, as this is hopefully a unique/one time scenario, which is why I'm waiting to see what they do with NoDo before complainging too loudly/switching carriers

Just because I feel like nitpicking (I'm just being a smart-ass, don't take it seriously/personally :) ):

There are three "entities" involved in getting my phone updated

1) Microsoft - they've released the update, not their fault

2) Myself - I've connected to my computer and forced zune to check for updates, not my fault

3) Telus - They're not pushing the update for whatever reason ... pretty sure it's their fault ;)
[Optimus 7 General] kazman13:
optional or not this still makes telus look bad when all other major carriers in canada are pushing this update but not telus.
[Optimus 7 General] bond7734:
Here's the answer! I got back from Telus after showing them where the update was and asking why we don't have it and why Rogers and Bell have released it.

Hello Justin,

Thank you for your reply.

Due to the technical requirements involved we are unable to disclose when the update will become available.

I would recommend to check our Website for updates as this is the first place any new information on your handset will be advertised:

http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/lg_optimus_7_support/

I regret any inconvenience or confusion this has caused and thank you for your patience in this matter.

For further information or assistance, please reply to this message, including your original e-mail and our response. If you prefer, you may also call our Client Care Team toll free Monday to Friday from 8:00 AM to 10:00 PM, and Saturday and Sunday from 9:00 AM to 8:00 PM at 1-866-558-2273 (or *611 from your wireless handset).

Thank you for using TELUS' Online Services and I hope you have a wonderful day.

Best regards,

Aekta

e.Care Specialist

TELUS

There's a technical requirment that makes them unable to disclose when the update will become avalible... doesn't make too much sense but I do agree with all of you. It's not that I desperatly want this update or that it's really negativly effecting me in anyway, it's that I fear this pattern may continue on to updates that improve the phone. We'll see what happens in March hopefully Telus pulls it together or at least has a better answer then just because.
[Optimus 7 General] kazman13:
do to technical requirements? what kind of bull is that every other major carrier is offering it and that is there excuse. telus never seems to surprise me with antics and excuses.

maybe i need to sell my phone and get one that's unbranded or from a carrier that is reputable.
[Optimus 7 General] kazman13:
i wonder if i flashed my phone to Europe open firmware i would still be able to use it in Canada? if i put in the proper APN or is it different radio bands involved
[Optimus 7 General] peshkipo:
According to Mobile Syrup, Telus has announced we will be getting the NoDo update in the next few weeks.
[Optimus 7 General] kazman13:
thanks for the read man. lets see if telus can keep there word on this one.
[Xoom General] gigglebox:
Just picked up mine at BestBuy. They didn't know anything about the $599 price w/contract. I showed them the Verizon site (that shows the lower price), and they did a manager override to bring the price down to $599.

Also, fwiw, I only signed up for the $20/mo package and still got the price down to 599... which I believe is in conflict with the Costco reports that came in yesterday.

Sent from my Evo using the XDA App
[Xoom General] singraham:
You had better luck than I did. They showed me the employee news that said they WERE NOT matching the Verizon price and could not activate the XOOM on contract. I walked down the street and bought one at Verizon.
[Xoom General] lanternca:
I got mine for $599 with the $20 plan. now i'm debating whether that was a good idea or not...
[Xoom General] gigglebox:
The way I see it, the 799 price wasnr "that" far off from the 599 with some months of data here and there. I think it came out to 13 months...if used the mobile network for 13 months it broke even. This way, I won't have to think about it... when I need/want it, it will be there. Have it turned off for everyday usage.
[Dell Streak 7] benmark:
Hi all,

recently i got myself a dell streat 7,

but i can't seem to send text out but i could receive messages from tmobile.

I have prepaid data plan.:(

Anyone know how to solve this?

Thank you
[Dell Streak 7] graffixnyc:
I don't think text messaging is included in a prepaid data plan. I think it only comes with the monthly plans
[Dell Streak 7] jiwengang:
agree

i use my google voice for texts
[Dell Streak 7] graffixnyc:
+1

10 char..
[Dell Streak 7] lmkidd:
When you purchase the Dell Streak 7, it is assigned a telepone number. You may send/receive text, but not call out. If you go to your "Settings", "About phone", then "Status" (there you will see the telephone number). If you download Google Voice from the market, you may set it up using either the phone number assigned to the tablet or, you may choose your google number. Whichever number you choose, this will appear when you send text. Note that when you set-up Google Voice you will be prompted to enter your gmail address. You will be asked what number is assigned to the device (it will show the device telephone number and your google telephone number). During the set-up, choose skip for phone call verification since the device will not receive calls. Once you have done this, your calls will download to the device. If you have more than 1 Google Account/Voice, you may log-out and log back in using your other info following the above steps.

Text Messaging and Prepaid Plan: You may need to call T-mobile to ask if text messaging is included in the Pre-paid data plan. I checked, but I didn't find info on text messaging for the pre-paid data plan. If text messaging is not included in your plan, you can still follow the above steps for Google Voice and when prompted for which telephone number is associated with the device, choose your Google telephone number instead of the device phone number. Try to text your phone and your email account to see which number appears. When I sent a text to my Yahoo account using the T-mobile device number, I found it in my Spam folder, so check that folder if you choose to try it this way. Also, the first two messages I sent out did not go through using the "text application" on the phone. When I downloaded Google Voice app, the messages start to go through. I tried it using both numbers. Also I tried logging out and using my second Google Account and it worked as well.
[Dell Streak 7] graffixnyc:
You will not have a phone number if you don't have a data plan and haven't set up prepaid service. My number is blank and I have the sim card installed. I signed up for a 7 day pass and that's when I got a number assigned nit it was still blank in settings. Like we said earlier text messaging comes with the monthly plans but does not come with prepaid. I tries sending a text when I had the 7 DAY pass and it was a no go
[Dell Streak 7] djflmmbl:
I also tried the 7 day pass and I was assigned a number. They told me at the tmo store that I could get the data plan without a contract for $40, but right now I'm using my simple mobile plan which includes unlimited text.
[Dell Streak 7] naucas:
You can ask a Tmo rep to add a messaging plan. There is a plan for that.
[Dell Streak 7] WookieFan:
You could also try kik messenger for texts, which works much like BBM - however, you can only send texts to other kik users. You just need WiFi to use it - messages go through any data connection.
[Dell Streak 7] RootaToota:
I got the Dell Streak 7 on Feb 2nd. I called T- Mobile to add text and was told that they are included already in tablet plans.

I just got a bill with $8 in text and called to fight my favorite company. They were unsure if text were to be charged or not. The crappy Galaxy tab has unlimited text, however.

I'm waiting on a call FROM a representative to let me know what's going on.

As a matter of fact I'm going to call now.

--

--

--

OK--- I was credited the eight bucks and verified that there is unlimited text and data on the Dell Streak 7 from T-Mobile for $39.99/mo plus tax.

Phew.
[Dell Streak 7] jiwengang:
Really??? unlimited text? I was charged for 8 texts sent by a spamming marketing company that i even never heart of!
[HTC Inspire 4G] smalis:
I am rooted and ROM'd via the hack kit, using attn1's inspired_dhd_vfr series ROM. When I use Root Explorer, I can mount the root as R/W, but when I go to system, it goes back to read only and pressing the Mount R/W button has no effect. I want to edit build.prop but it will not let me.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated!

[UPDATED] - updating Root Explorer fixed this, if anyone else has the same issue.
[HTC Inspire 4G] budco2000:
i had a similar problem, I uninstalled root explorer, and superuser, reinstalled both, and was good to go after a reboot
[General Questions and Answers] aassaassaass:
Hello, I want know if there is "Draw Race for Android

Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] 9100_it:
me too! but i think ther isn't for andorid! :(
[General Questions and Answers] pspandora:
Draw Race (SSNG Race)

I have found one!

It is called "SSNG Racer".

Give it a try (:
[General Questions and Answers] QMilch:
lol, sorry this games is bulls...

have you played draw race 2? i dont think so...

so dont push this (crap) game
[General Questions and Answers] luca.b:
try "Smart Race" is a new game under development.

is not perfect but I'm working to improve it! :)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crysto25:
I just flashed to axura 2.3.1 and so far its very snappy. And im wondering if this rom already supports 5.1 ch effect on headphones? And hows the battery life with this? Cuz seems like my fone lasts a day. Maybe its because of some apps.. I dunno
[Vibrant General] JWhipple:
http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1065
[Vibrant General] epakrat75:
Excellent. :D Too bad there's still no "Bell" (Canadian) Vibrant section. :p
[Vibrant General] HeavyComponent:
It's about time! Thanks for the heads up.
[Captivate General] rdunseith:
Went to stock earlier this morning and did the JH7 update through Kies Mini, now I just tried it again and it's downloading firmware. Could it be....... By the way Im Central time in Missouri. Date of upgrade says 02/19/11
[Captivate General] emuneee:
Cool. Let us know the build number in the about screen.
[Captivate General] rdunseith:
I will but it's taking a looonnngg time..

Rebooting now
[Captivate General] bames:
on kies it said the update buld date was the 19th so looks like it is the leaked firmware.
[Captivate General] shoman94:
Yup... what I was thinking
[Captivate General] rdunseith:
Yep 2.2

i897uckb1

froyo.uckb1

Kernel version 2.6.32.9
[Captivate General] $pitacular1:
I am not familiar with all of the Captivate specific lingo you guys use (I'm an HTC Glacier user) but my good friend has the Captivate - and I was wondering if there is a link I can direct him to so that he can get the leaked ROM? (Official 2.2)

Any help is appreciated.
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
ROMs made from leaked ROMs (the November and February leaks) are in the Devs section, but with the official version rolling out today he should just go with that.
[Captivate General] rdunseith:
This was downloaded and installed through kies mini. Its the real one from samsung/ATT. I'm trying to find where Kies save the download but no luck.
[Captivate General] hiepgia:
Yes. Same on me!.
[Captivate General] $pitacular1:
Thanks. Please let me know if you have any success.
[Captivate General] Beretta1526:
...tried Kies Mini at 11:03am EST and it was working. I've been messing with the phone for the last half hour now and have found that I am pretty happy with the e-mail updates, browser updates, and the fact that the update didn't remove any of the data from my phone that I can tell. I just have to re-organize my home screen and get my icons and widgets the way I like them.

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[Captivate General] Caliesv:
Were you rooted or anything?
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
Ask your friend to download Kies Mini software from Samsung support site. Then he connects the phone to it and it will automatically upgrade. ROM image files (which are already leaks a few days ago) are useless to you unless you want to use ODIN tools.
[Captivate General] Beretta1526:
No, bone stock. The Kies Mini was also updated on my machine a few days ago, on the 19th, I think.

As for the update, it went smooth. I cannot find anywhere the update file is on my host machine, as if it used the phone's memory to store it as it downloaded it.

It appears that Samsung was listening to some of the wish list stuff. I almost forgot to check to see if copy/paste was active in Exchange or not, as well as the browser. There is a MUCH improved copy/paste in the web browser, but no copy or text selection in the e-mail prog. :mad:

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[Captivate General] PeteSeiler2010:
Great, I can't wait to try this out at home. Does anyone that has updated to the 2.2 use HeyTell? If so, can you verify if it is working correctly?
[Captivate General] $pitacular1:
Thanks. A Quick search and found everything I need.
[Captivate General] rjblack11:
so why use official 2.2 when there is better? looks? smooth? better than a custom rom? if not then why are people wasting their time upgrading? not trying to ***** just wondering why the hype when really its almost downgrading.

edit: those of you who like to stay close to stock, i understand why you want to upgrade. its the others that dont make sense.
[Captivate General] Beretta1526:
This thread should probably be merged with the main upgrade thread here, but...

For me, I never bothered to mess with the Captivate. First and foremost, I didn't want to void my warranty. Otherwise, it was just because I didn't feel like messing with it. I have three phones, one of which never has a SIM in it (Captivate). I use mine as a tablet more than anything else. Well, a really small tablet ;)

I'm biding my time until I either get the Infuse or a tablet of some sort. Until then, I don't feel like messing with it. Had the update not worked as quickly and smoothly as it did, I wouldn't have bothered.

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[Captivate General] zelendel:
Please post anything about the 2.2 update in the already opened thread.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Devil_Dude:
I just wanted to know does the adobe flash lite works on optimus one and does enables us to view flash content on web?:confused:

if yes then give me a copy now!:D
[Optimus One, P500, V General] bioan:
Why did you open a new thread for this known issue ? You've got your answer on the right topic and you are expecting a positive answer here. Guys like you are killing me...
[Optimus One, P500, V General] kewlsid05:
Argh!

No no NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Flash wont work. 10.1 or Lite. None. Nada!

I would say please search before posting but apparently you have already got around to the fact that Flash is not supported on our device and yet you continue to beat a dead horse.

I dont mean to be rude but please keep the forums uncluttered.

Thanks and take care.
[G2 and Desire Z General] DerIdiot:
Hey all,

I'm getting latency over 800ms up to several thousand after an overnight charge. I came into work and decided to install an app and now my latency is over 800ms. I jumped onto a co-workers wifi via sprint cellular and I'm still seeing 800+, any suggestions? I tried a hard-reboot and pulled the battery for a minute, but no fix. I'd hate to roll-back after making all these changes.. lol :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] DerIdiot:
Scratch that, I called TMobile and they confirmed doing work on the cell towers here today, expanding capacity due to load I imagine ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] heybobitsme:
What area? My latency has been pretty crappy for ages, and I'm in an HSPA+ area.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psufan5:
Thinking of returning my Atrix and just getting a Nexus S. One thing the Atrix actually does is play flash 100% perfectly.

Can the same be said for this phone"?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psp888:
The Nexus S runs Flash fine, but not so smooth on higher bitrate flash videos
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dinan:
I don't have any experience with the Atrix but my experience with the Nexus S is the browser and flash acceleration isn't really there (yet) like it is on Snapdragon devices. I feel like my Nexus One and MT4G performed better at flash playback in the browser than the NS.

No idea how flash is on Tegra 2 phones but I'd guess it's way better than the NS. Give some links to some flash sites that run nicely on your Atrix and I'll test it on my NS.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Product F(RED):
Comparing the Nexus S and Atrix 4G in terms of hardware is a joke. Personally, I prefer the Nexus S because I hate Motoblur and also I like the way the phone looks. But there's no way I can deny that the Atrix is more powerful, especially graphically. Dude, it has a friggin Tegra 2 dual-core CPU. The Nexus S I believe has a single-core Hummingbird. The Hummingbird (same one in the Galaxy S) is very powerful graphically, but the Tegra 2 is more powerful. I'd still take the Nexus S though since it's more powerful than my Evo.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lpasq:
My NxS w/CM7 + Flash works equal to my N1 same setup. This is not based on any spec or performance comparisons...just a daily user of shadownet.com

Why dumping Atrix?

...sent from NxS
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
search around for threads about this, because the nexus s actually is not optimized to play flash well yet, its missing graphics acceleration, etc. so many sites seems to be slow and choppy, and the nexus one actually out performs it. this is obviously a fluke, but the update has not yet come to fix it.

the galaxy s was the same way but samsung pushed the update out to the international version, and it made a world of difference. apparently google did not get this memo. so you might not have as smooth performance as expected.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
reason it has issues is becuase hardware acceleration has yet to be implemented like the snapdragon CPU
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Product F(RED):
The thing is that, being a Nexus device, the software is handled by Google, so you can expect a quick update.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psufan5:
My captivate with a custom kernel runs flash extremely well - nearly as well as the atrix.

Returning the atrix because its really a disappointment. Its horribly optimized, cant display the color yellow at all, and AT&T raped the HSUPA on the phone - disabling it. which wouldnt be a major issue if the boot loader was locked and you could enable it like on my captivate.

Just too much crap wrong with it to warrant signing a 2 year contract with it. So I am thinking thunderbolt or nexus S at this point.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexcinci:
on stock,not well. but I read that when overclocked, runs smoothly or hopefully, as said here, they will put the gpu to help :D
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
Nexus S browsing performance (Only Nexus S holders plz)

So I've seen many conflicting videos/reviews about Nexus S scrolling/zooming.... I heard that Samsung only optimized the browser for Hummingbird (with GPU acceleration, but of course didn't share the code with Google), but it's not available on the Nexus S.

So, on the Nexus S with Flash-enabled:

1) How smooth is it? Is it as smooth as the Atrix? iPhone 4? Galaxy S (after GPU acceleration fix)?

2) How smooth does flash video play in the browser?

3) Is there any ROM/Kernel I need to install to get the smoothest web-browsing experience? (I'm down with this, I just need to know if there's a solution).

4) Any hope that Samsung's GPU acceleration code can be used on the Nexus S?

Because I can afford either the Nexus S or the Atrix (I'm buying one of them in exactly 10 days), but I don't like the Atrix' screen or the fact it won't get Ice Cream this summer. I need Super AMOLED and instant updates -but not if it will mean a choppy browsing experience and poor flash performance.

Thanks!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MadFerIt2011:
*I use flash on-demand. I don't see any point in keeping flash enabled on a constant basis. You are just wasting battery life on pointless flash advertisements.

1) Haven't owned/used an Atrix/Galaxy S so can't comment.. But it's certainly not as smooth as the iPhone 4. However, the Android browser renders the entire webpage at once as opposed to the iPhone 4 and it's "checkboard" rendering while scrolling. So it's expected to be less smooth.

2) Most video I've played has been smooth. But of course don't expect to scroll through a webpage and have a video still remain smooth.

3) Most of the kernels/roms out for the Nexus S are designed with the improve performance (not the browser specifically) via filesystem tweaks, overclocking, and other enhancements. This would certainly translate to smoother browsing. However I don't bother.

4) Hopefully when we see Ice Cream on the Nexus S there will be further performance enhancements and possibly GPU acceleration. I'm hopeful the improved browser included with Android 3.0 is included with it's phone counterpart.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexcinci:
there´s already a thread about the same question, try this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=967608
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
heres a great video to answer your nexus s vs atrix questions. see for yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3BJ2vKpGM
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
Thanks man, I saw this video which is why I am a bit confused about the truth. I've also seen countless other videos where the scrolling and pinching are just painfully slow and choppy, which is why I need to ask about people's experiences.

I also don't know if this person in the video has any specific ROM/Kernel underneath...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dman777:
Browser sux in bare mode. But if you use SetCpu and put the cpu at 1300Mhz it will run as smooth as butter...this is with flash and the most heaviest of web pages...speaking from my own personal experience.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexcinci:
I´m curious to know if the nexus on this video has mods. Cause if it is on stock, ther is no advantage, for now , on picking up a dual core phone...actually, I thought Atrix would be something out of this world... guess not
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
Thank you! That's what I'm talking about.

What impact does the overlock have on battery life?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
both atrix and nexus s are stock in the video. i have no problems at all browsing with my nexus s, but then again im not at stock. from what ive heard from atrix owners that also have a nexus s(like the vid) is there isnt any difference, and the ns might even be slightly smoother.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
I was excited when I read that; but then I saw a video of a Nexus S on 1300 Mhz and while everything was fast, web browsing was still choppy; the guy was too embarrassed to keep demoing it.

http://androidcommunity.com/exclusi...d-to-1-3ghz-running-flawlessly-demo-20110104/
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dman777:
just wanted to give a heads up...i am running the new netarchy 1.2.5 cfs kernel with cm7-rc1. flash runs smooth as butter with no overclocking needed.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
Awesome. Care to post a video with some pinching, scrolling and flash video? Thanks.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dman777:
haha...no. that's the last thing i want to do after flashing my phone all day and doing numerous mods.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TareX:
lol :) well feel free to post the video here when you get around to it...