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[Atrix 4G General] nucentury08:
Hey im a android power user but iPhone 4 is great other then the locked os im a gamer and after having ios my android os is so far behind in games and apps where are all the games?? So again mind you before you dumb people reply and call me a apple fan im not of the os I own probley more Android devices then anybody sending this from my nexus s but android os needs to step up in games big time gameloft is just a start So I can understand why he would go back to ios again Android power user
[Atrix 4G General] Exador:
Games are for babies, grownups use phones for other reasons. Only an idiot would buy a phone specifically to play games.
[Atrix 4G General] dew.man:
ROTFLMAO.....
[Atrix 4G General] ApplCobbler:
You already sound like a big dumb baby, but let's proceed to what makes you angry

Did you try dialing 1, like IN EVERY PHONE EVER? Or were you too lazy to set up google voice? Furthermore, you say it's AT&T's fault, but you list it as the number one problem? WHAT

Are you too stupid to set up an email account on a third party app, or was the stock email client that COMES WITH THE PHONE ( It's called Email, how did you miss it you mouthbreather!!!) too elusive for you?

You can set it to only display contacts with phone numbers. Or, you can clean out your contacts list on gmail, your choice.

You said 4 twice, so I'm gonna go ahead and answer them at the same time. The power button in the back is located at almost the exact same place as your dumbass iphone's sleep button. And also, if you spent like 5 minutes acquainting yourself with the system and how to select text, rather than posting about it so fast then you would know that you can select it by pressing on it quickly and then dragging it across the words you want to select ALMOST LIKE ON THE IPHONE4 WHOA

"Waahhhhh, I'm too much of a big dumb baby to try my hand at a different technology that might make me do something slightly different!! There better be no repercussions for the fact that I made a mistake!!"

It all works bro, you just need to understand that this is a different operating system and isn't an iphone. If it ran exactly the same, and did everything exactly the same, then you would be here complaining that android ripped off ios. Deal with it, or move on.

You MIGHT just have to try and figure something out on your own for once. But trust me, once you start using your brain again and thinking about things and your headache from it subsides, you'll be well on your way to being a useful person. ;)

LOL, what would you do with a bootloader? You can't even work the damn thing stock, why should you trust yourself with the ability to brick your device?
[Atrix 4G General] anupash:
TLS works on the stock Motorola app for Email. I have been using it for than a month. It's the only think I can perhaps like about Motoblur. The stock email client is very clean and straight forward to set up.

Better check ur configurations before foolish ranting about silly things.

And for all the other Rantings learn about the stuff before buying. U should better know coming from a dumb OS, u will have a learning graph.
[Atrix 4G General] spielnicht:
That's why I'd rather play on my Xbox 360...at the appropriate time and place. I can't stand these douche-bags playing games on their phones while commuting to work.

I'm still not getting why you need a 3rd party app for your school email. Android supports every mail protocol the iPhone can. Just for our FYI, please explain.

As for voice mail...I think you meant visual voice mail, right? You really missed the best parts of Android. Did you bother installing Google Voice and have it be your voice mail client for your carrier calls too?? Dude, it TRANSCRIBES your voice mails...TRANSCRIBES them.

No offense, you're better off sticking to the iHerd and not wandering off on your own. The Android world can be overwhelming.
[Atrix 4G General] bumoftheday31:
ATT did screw mine up due to the transition from visual voicemail to regular voicemail. The phone would not go to voicemail, and simply dialing 1 would send me to the voicemail service, which I couldn't access because ATT screwed up on their end. It took a 5 seconds call to ATT to fix.
[Atrix 4G General] hotleadsingerguy:
All of those problems can be fixed if you actually did research and understood what you were doing.

Voicemail: Install Google Voice. It works *BETTER* than Visual Voicemail and it's super simple to use. It will transcribe all of your voicemails (meaning it gives you text of what the person said). It also can email you a copy (of the entire voicemail and also the text of the call) and send you a txt message of what the person said. It's, by far, the absolute best voicemail application I've ever seen.

Email: It's actually very simple to set up the email application and get it working correctly if you know what you're doing. Or you could have even just asked the IT department of your school to help and they'd have done it all for you.

The button: If you want to turn it on while it's laying on it's back just grab the top of the phone. The button is contoured enough so that you don't even have to pick up the phone.

Contacts: Once again, if you would have learned how it works it would take 5 minutes. I've used Android before and I've used every iteration of the iPhone. I just came from an iPhone 4 and it took me about 5 minutes to set up everything for the Atrix. My contacts are *exactly* like I want them and they work perfectly. The great part about Android is that you can check out the other contacts anytime without integrating them with your normal contact list. You can also look at Facebook or Twitter contacts too (including just look at your Facebook phone numbers).

Tap to correct. I'm assuming you just meant "selecting text". This is *much* easier on iOS. No easy way to quickly select text in Android. Don't really have any defense for that one.
[Atrix 4G General] Ririal:
Just want to chime in that as an "iPhone power user" (jailbroken, loads of custom apps, some written myself), going from an iOS device to an Android device was simple. Sure, Android does everything a little differently (As mentioned, otherwise Apple would be suing Google hardcore), but it's just as intuitive. Changing OS isn't a small step. As the broken record of this thread keeps skipping: Stop whining because you don't want to take the time to figure it out.

I've had an iPhone since day 1 of the 2G, and every iPhone since. I love the phones to death... as long as it's jailbroken. A lot of the reason that I made the move is the stigma attached to iOS devices at this point; they're for un-savvy users like our OP here who can't take 5 minutes to look at menu options. My iPhone does everything any Android device does (including a "webtop" similar to the Atrix). It took less than 5 minutes to get accustomed to the way Android does things, and I've had almost no experience with Android devices up to the switch. The OP seems determined to hate the phone for not being an iPhone, which is really sad. Enjoy your "one-click setup" and forced upgrade every year.
[Atrix 4G General] jmbradd:
I just want to chime in as a power thinker (yes I made that up) that phone gaming as a whole sucks. Sometimes I play solitaire between classes or angry birds when i'm bored but if I want to actually game, i'll use my computer or console. They could cram civ 5 into a phone i'm sure but its a futile excuse with how great it is on the PC.

It would be like complaining about my computer because VOIP is nothing like my landline (ok I don't actually have a landline)
[Atrix 4G General] haidcar:
this is not a phone problem, you picked the wrong os for you. see iphone is great and so easy to use, android is a bit tricker to get used to unlimited customization and options offered but if you know how to use it trust me, you will never user other os its that good and better
[Atrix 4G General] neer2005:
Return to iOS.
[Atrix 4G General] :
No need to panic here.

The default Android email client CANNOT use TLS. Unfortunately, most email servers use SSL, so they only support that type of encryption. K9 and MailDroid will both resolve that issue for you.

I just came from the iPhone to Android for the first time myself. I used to be a WinMo chef, so I don't mind playing with stuff to make it work for me.

I am somewhat upset about the visual voicemail being gone too. However, I am looking into the option of having my regular voicemail forwarded to my google voicemail so I can have the visual voicemail features and transcriptions.

A few other quick notes coming from the iPhone:

1) If you have more than 1 non-gmail email account, you can access them by using the "Messaging" app. It will display all of your accounts and let you switch to another Inbox besides your default.

2) If you hold the power button for a second, it will let you put the phone in silent mode. This is equal to the silent switch on the side of the iPhone.

3) Single tapping the Home capacitive button while at the home screen will let you view all of the homescreens. Double-tabbing will open the browser and holding the home button will let you switch to recently used apps.

These are probably all in the manual, but if you are like me you probably didn't read it when you got the phone.
[Atrix 4G General] Blind_Guardian:
I'm also an Iphone user and just came to android. Download google voice from the market and it will setup visual voicemail for you. It's great and it's instant just like the Iphone, but with some added benefits. I've been using it since Monday and calls instantly get moved to google voice for the voicemail and as soon as they message is left, I get a notification on the phone. I'd also get handcent if you do any texting, it's much more customizable compared to the motoblur stuff. I love the fact that I can get a text while doing something else and I can reply without exiting the app. You'd have to jailbreak an iphone for that.

I do hate the sleep/wake button, but I've heard there is an app that will let you change it to another button. It's not the location that bothers me, it's that recessed in.
[Atrix 4G General] dmappdev:
Let's see, I've owned and used every iphone to date. I even develop for ios, and after a 3 day dissapointment with the inspire, this atrix is the finest mobile devise I've ever used.
[Atrix 4G General] ApplCobbler:
More like, 'quit being so weak and ineffectual that picking the phone up slightly is a huge inconvenience'.

Please make it 'see you all never'
[Atrix 4G General] sturgeon123456:
So many people are buying these phones and not everyone will be happy but android is not iphone, the atrix seems to be an early attempt at the future generation of super dual core android phones and thus I believe it may be prudent to wait for the links to be worked out? Just my opinion. I really wanted one but the more that I read the more hesitant I become.
[Atrix 4G General] tehkingo:
Sounds to me like you're unhappy that a completely stock (read: no 3rd party apps) experience isn't "good enough" and for some reason are refusing to correct any issues you have with the phone by doing low to moderate amount of research.
[Atrix 4G General] NexusDro:
Really? On my stock Nexus One native email app, I am currently using TLS for my outgoing mail server.
[Atrix 4G General] Exador:
Typical retarded iphone user response. I left the iphone scene because I got tired of people and posts like this. Do us a favor and go back to macrumors. Your not capable of getting the most out of your Android device because you've been trained by Apple to be a stupid spoiled brat.
[Atrix 4G General] frankydickson:
To the OP

One item I haven't seen discussed regarding your original post is... the phone is 3 days old. 3 days. Look at every. iPhone. release. Hell, the iPhone 4 was released and bam, you can't hold it a certain way!

Besides the obvious issues, you have to adopt an early adopter mindset, or go the safe route with a stable platform
[Atrix 4G General] adil06944:
To the OP:

Some of these are valid concerns you have but they can be resolved by doing some research. You are obviously very used to the iPhone and are having a hard time adjusting as you have gotten used to doing things in a certain way. In a way i understand what you are going through.

Sometimes i will have to use my dad's iPhone to do stuff and i feel that it is missing a lot. While regular iPhone users feel that very few things (if any at all) are missing. While using the iPhone for example, i constantly look for the back button and it takes me a while to figure out that the applications usually have a button that takes you back to the previous screen etc. This is simply expected by the iPhone users and is therefore not a problem to them. And i'm sure if i had to use the iPhone on a daily basis i could get used to not having the back button.

Just like my example above the problems you are having are minor annoyances which can be dealt with. Don't mind the hate these people are giving you. If you want to try a platform that is great, allows you to make decisions (instead of steve-o), is very customizable and will be around in the future then put up with these annoyances. You will figure out ways to fix them and get the phone to do pretty much exactly what you want soon.

Regarding selecting text etc; i'm currently running gingerbread on the nexus one and i can tell you selecting text and correcting spelling etc are much easier than on froyo.

Just hang in there.
[Atrix 4G General] tuantuti:
how did u manage to to this???? such a horrible scene to imagine
[Atrix 4G General] TheWyzeMan:
Ha I've had an iPhone since day one and 17 days ago I bought this Nexus One on eBay. I'm not going back. I love this phone. I'm on my 4th rom already just trying a bit of everything out.

Pluses- customization, keyboard, notifications, and Google integration (I couldn't make it without gmail and gvoice)

Big pluses- WIDGETS! Those are amazing. An actual options menu. Apple's "settings" app is a joke. Oh and Android has a user customizable dictionary. Win.

Minus- no quick reply type feature (that I know of). I miss my biteSMS.
[Atrix 4G General] pwnx:
Try gosms. Has the quick reply feature.
[Atrix 4G General] monkey28rb:
Handcent sms has quick reply
[Atrix 4G General] acPIZZA:
Op, thanks for your super post. We are all glad you are going back to your previous phone. Sorry it didn't work out for you, best of luck. And mostly, thanks for making a post about it.
[Atrix 4G General] Deca4:
I don't blame you. I'm thinking about returning my Atrix. I think the Atrix would not be a good phone to port over from an iphone. The Motorblur / launcher just sucks. I don't like how the apps function compared to the Captivate. I find the Atrix fustrating. It needs some serious updates.

I think I may wait for the next Galaxy S model. I actually like my modded Captivate better. Much easier to navigate through the phone and apps. A lot of shortcuts to get to my main apps. Much easier to look through the contacts and call. I took Perceptions ROM, stripped it, put apps I would normal use and my custom boot screen.

If the Atrix had the exact ROM I'm running with the docking software and had the AMOLED screen it I would have no doubts about the phone. I can also look forward in future software upgrade because I know it will take advantage of the dual core.

I think if you would have gotten the inspire or a customized Captivate you would have a different opinion and never look back. Don't let the Atrix dual core draw you in because right now the OS does not take advantage of the dual core processor.
[Atrix 4G General] ronan_zj:
I had Iphone 3Gs, then switched to Nexus One, now I am on Atrix, not official, but I will get my phone tomorrow. iPhone is good, but I hate the phone is locked forever by ATT, so I don't own the phone if I move to other services.

IMO, if I paid money on the phone, I am supposed to own it, which means I should have right to unlock it officially by ATTpple.
[Atrix 4G General] milk242:
Only thing I miss about the iPhone (been an iPhone user since the original) is the more unified UI.

I do agree the email client on the iPhone was a little better, but I believe it just takes getting use to the different UI.

I'm still debating about the Atrix though, I do a lot of text reading on the phone and eventually, the pentile display starts bothering me and makes my head hurt. I'm hoping for the Incredible S to come to AT&T, but I don't think that'll happen since it's already built with AWS bands. Anyways, I'm going to give this phone at least 30 days to try out.
[Atrix 4G General] ronan_zj:
why dont u go to ATT store, and play the atrix for a while
[Captivate General] JohnnyDanger:
Just got a tweet from GalaxySSupport saying that the Captivate will be getting Froyo tomorrow. Think I will stick with my custom rom.

Sent from my Samsung Captivate
[Captivate General] ScottyNuttz:
I'll upgrade my wife's and see how that goes before I go back to stock.
[Captivate General] ConeyKiller:
I honestly don't know why you'd stick with your custom, it does not have the official source for our phone, just a well hacked up version from other phones. i don't have a computer so I can't flash very often. I've done it once, but from what I read, everyone seems to be happy with what the devs have been able to do with a makeshift source. btw this is my first post, but i've been reading for about 4 months. lol
[Captivate General] JohnnyDanger:
I should clarify. I'm going to stick with roms like Phoenix or others, and update to a Rom that will be based off official source. I don't want to lose things like Mobile AP (for free at least) and the lag fixes. I might try the official release down the road, but I doubt I will stay with it.

Sent from my Samsung Captivate
[Captivate General] shinji257:
I've been sticking with stock because I've been reading alot of issues with bluetooth headset. Unfortunately I use that with my car (built-in bluetooth) and I really like that so I'd rather not lose it...
[Captivate General] Vivified:
It works fine in some ROMS. ie Ryude Precision 3.5. I haven't tested BT dialing on my current ROM, but everything else with BT is working fine on Cognition 4.0. Just an FYI
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
BT dialing works fine for me on Andromeda 1.2.
[Captivate General] eyekyu:
ill flash back to stock, than back to custom cus i know the devs will come out with something farrrrr more b!tchen :)
[Captivate General] TheBassman369:
That is awesome. Cool thing is, though, we should be seeing CM7 for the Cappy next week. We'll be on 2.3 while everyone else just updated to 2.2.
[Captivate General] bames:
Supernova confirmed working with BT in car.

Several 2.2.1 roms will also enable bluetooth dialing from a headset which you can't do from stock.
[Captivate General] antonyvijai:
I waited waited and waited until last sunday when I flashed serendipity on my captivate. Looking at the speed, UI and performance I will wait to see if the official froyo is any better (i doubt it). If it is impressive then I will flash back to stock (JF6) and update to froyo through kies mini but not happening tomorrow
[Captivate General] p4ranoid4ndroid:
Does this mean source has been put out too? I thought GB/CM7 isnt possible until that comes out? The official release just means more Samsung based ROMS if im not mistaken
[Captivate General] antonyvijai:
Serendipity is too cool..not going to go for the official froyo
[Captivate General] CatFan:
I've been using Preception 10.3 and it works fine with my bluetooth. They announced they would not be continuing development on Perception but I like what i have. I'll keep it until the Devs cook up something after they get the official source.
[Captivate General] neo_31591:
it's probably the same froyo that congnition 4 is based on...and with the lagfix on, and the really awesome roms and kernels available here...i m sure the stock froyo would suck!!!

and btw it wont be long before at&t and samsung pull down the froyo page cause of "bug fixes"..aha
[Captivate General] antonyvijai:
Agreed :-)
[Captivate General] Weselers:
Nevermind the bloat and stock Samsung look, both suck in comparison to the work that some of the devs have done on this forum. It would be downgrading to go to stock 2.2 from a custom 2.2.1 ROM. Lol and like previous post who know knows how long ATT will actually have an Official release out before it starts bricking phones...
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] richardb9000:
I have a HTC Desire HD 2.2.1

Version 1.75

I am unable to downgrade or create a gold card I have tried 6 different SD cards with no luck
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottishvillan:
Which guide did you follow for the goldcard? And at which point do you think it hasn't worked? I can't see 6 different sd cards failing.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kowalski99:
I think the original SD card should work.

My fail at the beginning was the current selection into my. Hex Editor for the SD card. Read carefully.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] richardb9000:
addictivetips com/mobile/how-to-make-gold-card-for-htc-desire-hd/

I followed the above guide and the sd card always fails and asks to be formated.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] richardb9000:
I have tried the orignal Micro SD card that is 8gb and I have even tried the micro SD card that came with my Wifes HTC Desire Z, still no luck.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gekrem:
Hi,

The method posted here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=905003 worked for me like a charm. The key thing here is that you follow the instructions perfectly.

From my experience you need to create the GoldCard using the HEX Editing method. The method posted which is automated on another site does not work. Trust me I tried to make it work for hours! and it just doesnt work.

Key thing is to also use MMC2 not MMC1 or MMC0.

Hope this helps.

The method posted above, helped me debrand my phone and downgrade it to the version listed. It worked a treat!
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kowalski99:
Is Working now ?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iPhone_convert:
working too

got the downgrade to work - copied the files to c:\Downgrade and here are the results:

C:\>cd Downgrade

C:\Downgrade>adb push psneuter /data/local/tmp

adb server is out of date. killing...

* daemon started successfully *

1663 KB/s (0 bytes in 557962.000s)

C:\Downgrade>adb push misc_version /data/local/tmp

991 KB/s (0 bytes in 15837.000s)

C:\Downgrade>adb shell chmod 777 /data/local/tmp/psneuter

C:\Downgrade>adb shell chmod 777 /data/local/tmp/misc_version

C:\Downgrade>adb shell /data/local/tmp/psneuter

property service neutered.

killing adbd. (should restart in a second or two)

C:\Downgrade>asb shell

'asb' is not recognized as an internal or external command,

operable program or batch file.

C:\Downgrade>adb shell

adb server is out of date. killing...

* daemon started successfully *

# cd /data/local/tmp

cd /data/local/tmp

# ./misc_version -s 1.31.405.6

./misc_version -s 1.31.405.6

--set_version set. VERSION will be changed to: 1.31.405.6

Patching and backing up partition 17...

#

The only issue / problem is that once rebooted and DHD starts up the setup only gives me a choice of 6 or so English options all middle eastern , eg: Kuwait, etc no US or Australia.

There must be some other file that has locale options in it that is wrong and or not replaced by the downgrade?? Does anyone have an answer for this ??

Otherwise I have #G data, standard keyboard, browser is working, that's all I've checked so far - hopefully everything will work
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkoljo:
Use app from Market: MoreLocale 2
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] richardb9000:
Gold Card seems to have been created correctly but the zip file wont load from the boot manager
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kowalski99:
Any Error messages ?

The Device Reboots into Bootmanager and then ?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] richardb9000:
in boot loader it just says loading sd ... loading image and image not found and it cant find all the items it looks for and then exits