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[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
So does changing the Build Number in the build.prop file cause any ongoing problems? Seems like a good place to put a cute message or your email address. In case your wondering I changed it to: Top Nurse Rules! :D
[Epic 4G General] popper668:
I changed mine to OZIAHBITCHEZ, it has only the "cool" effect

Sent from DEEZ
[Epic 4G General] ptfdmedic:
Here is the first line in mine:

ro.build.display.id=midNIGHT ROM v3.3

Hope this helps...
[Epic 4G General] daddymikey1975:
sooo.... how does one go about editing/changing the build.prop file ??

I'm dying to know LOL
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
by using a text editor and going into the build prop and changing it. i hope this isnt the highlight of your day.
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
You get Root Explorer and open up system/build.prop

Click save and it will save your file and rename the old file as build.prop.bak IIRC. That is the reason a screen shot of a new build is pointless.

Sent from Bonsai v 5.0.3
[Epic 4G General] daddymikey1975:
it certainly isn't the highlight of the day, however, for those of us that have never done it, it seems only proper to ask, right ?? I mean, if there's something that you've never done, and you never ask, will you ever be able to do it ? :rolleyes:

Thanks for the answer in the midst of the sarcasm though.
[Epic 4G General] DiGi760:
Sometimes. Some of us poke around try to find edit these things before we ask. Sometimes you learn more by figuring things out on your own.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rajuki:
Not sure if its official or obvious or both. But a someone working from Samsung told me that someone has just received official RC for Gingerbread for Galaxy S.

Sorry for the spam but wanted to share the joy that Samsung hasn't given up on 12 million Galaxy S users....yet.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ghazi.urfali:
Sure Hope so! im getting tired of waiting around for samsung. It's this type of customer service that makes me think of switching to an HTC for my next phone, even though i will miss out on dual core and high end video graphics.

Manufacturers need to start focusing on the total experience rather than hardware. (i would love to see how battery lives of next gen android phones compare)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] forelli:
Thanks for the news, but you have to be more explicit: are you talking about the asian, european or american market?

f.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] haloimplant:
HTC is better? The Desire came out at the same time as the Galaxy S around here (I chose between the two), and they are basically in the same spot we are. http://www.product-reviews.net/2011...htc-desire-owners-will-get-update-eventually/ Waiting for it to come...eventually. A quick search reveals the Incredible doesn't have it officially yet either.

At least us XDA'ers won't have to wait an eternity for carrier-specific releases. In Bell's case they will be months molesting 2.3 (and possibly screwing it up) even after Samsung is finished, but I won't be beholden to their whims.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rajuki:
Well, this person works in Nordic division for Samsung so can't really say. My guess is European first. The word is that the release will take some time because Samsung received a lot of complaints for Froyo- so they want to do this one right and freeze the development for Galaxy S- consider it as a farewell gift from Samsung.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rajuki:
Mate, Grass is always greener on the other side- isn't it? :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Darktori:
I honestly belive, that we will get 2.3 (and mabe some minor improvements within 2.3), but that will be our last update.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alcurtis93:
I think we well get 2.4 minor update
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jonny_ftm:
Damn it, just one year dev support for phones costing +500$

What a silly consumer world we're running :(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] stepsch:
Do you really expect something great and/or new with 2.3 or 2.whatever??

There will be some other issues again. The battery is still the same, the display is the same, the button won't change, the scratches your devices already have won't go ... so ... what is it good for?!

My stock Galaxy S was ok for calling, sms, mails, and some enternmaint as it comes. So it did/does what they said. Switching to other ROM or adjusting this or that was born by some boring nights at work, just to see how the things are working. But no real need to change anything. So, if they will release another ROM - nice, but if not - who cares.

To have always the newest (is it always better?), the more shiny (unfortunaley it will be easier scratched), the more expensive (did you earn more money in the last past?), the glamour of modern style (do you really think a smartphone beams you to the rich und famous?) belongs exactly to:

But it makes lots of fun to brick it and get it back to live again. :D:D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ramas123:
According to Eldar Murtazin from mobile-review.com 2.3 version should be in 2 months time for Galaxy S phones. At least in Europe.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Soniboy84:
Am I the only one relying so much on 2.3 fixing the sluggish interface to give us iOs/wp7 smoothness?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BelugaHval:
No your not the only one. On paper the Galaxy S should be faster than the Desire (which i owned before Galaxy S). But it lags so much its terrible sometimes .. im even embarrased to show the phone to iPhone users.

The problem is the crappy RFS filesystem!!! (Google it). I hope they get rid of that stupid crap and switch to EXT2 or 4.

Sometimes the phone just doesnt react to anything .. and i end up hammering the thumb on the screen. But the phone is frozen for several seconds. Its so anoying!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jodue:
lol, you are kidding right? as far as i know no htc device has official gingerbread yet so ... i'd say if samsung is able to produce a RC yet they are definitely on track! also i prefer a a good and tested firmware over a buggy and unoptimized one like the first 2.2 firmwares.

and yep: I'm also looking forward with joy to a fantastic 2.3 firmware. i guess they improved a lot due to the production of the nexus s. although i'd prefer a stable release of cm7 ... :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jodue:
don't be embarrassed, just install the speedmod kernel by hardcore and it will be faster than all the stupid ios&wp7 devices of your friends together ;). beliefe me!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] peachpuff:
No kernel or ext4 tweaks will fix the lag on our phones, i've been trying everything since day one, its hopeless. The problem isn't just the rfs filesystem, its also touchwiz.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] The_Double:
@peachpuff

Either you are stupid or you just like to complain...

My i9000 outperforms both my friends iphones and android devices in speed and smoothness. (ok, the iphones are a bit smoother... But it's still better than the androids)

Exept for the GPS, there is nothing wrong with the galaxy that can't be fixed by mods.

And so far, Samsung has a pretty good update record. All of their unlocked international phones have got updates as fast, or even faster than other OEM's.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mathijs727:
Install js5 and speedmod.

Activate lagfix, and i can promis you it will kill the iphone.

And with fasterfix and GPSaids the GPS is really good to.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] theos0o:
I hope Samsung won't stop at 2.3 :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] madizinbox:
I am using a custom rom with speed mod my galaxy s is faster and smoother than ever. It scores almost 1500 on quadrant edition.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] haloimplant:
I have not had lag like that since 2.1. It was incredibly annoying but in my experience it has been completely gone even in stock 2.2.

Also I had ext2 lagfix in 2.1 that gave huge quadrant scores but the phone still lagged like crazy.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] peachpuff:
The only time where my phone isn't lagging is when its a fresh install with nothing installed, after i reinstall all of my apps(100 or so) its starts to lag during certain actions.

Call me whatever you like, im just venting my frustration with the phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] theos0o:
Weird.

My i9000 was pretty terrible when I was on official Greek 2.2 (JPH, well-known for being rubbish for us Greeks :p).

Then I switched to Darky's ROM with ext4 lagfix enabled.

Everything's quite good since then.

Of course there are tiny slowdowns at times (rarely), but that's nothing compared to stock experience.

I'm on SpeedMod K13C + Darky v9.2 atm, all good :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] t1mman:
One of my friends has a Desire, he'd trade the so called lag anyday just to be able to install 100+ apps. He can't realy install much on the tinny Nand they put on most devices!

Furthermore, SGS lags is non-existent on many custom rom. Running Darky's with hardcore kernel and it will fly! Hardcore kernel also fixes the battery drain with the optimisation.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Intratech:
Stock JPY on rfs has no lag.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rajuki:
I have my Galaxy S since July last year and I have seen out progress it a lot. Yeah, sometimes the progress was painfully slow but the phone has come from a laggy 2.1 to zippy 2.2.1 and thats a long way. Of course it would be great if out of the box experience was just how it is now...without the need of any custom kernel or ROMs but that's the whole fun of using an Android phone. The tweaking and modding is nearly endless...as compared to iPhone.

But personally I believe that 2.3 would be the last update for us...because Galaxy S has come to an end of a very successful life cycle.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Zatta:
I must say that my SGS doesn't have that much lag since I started to use Doc's kitchen with speedmod Kernel. Even though I am still on RFS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] stepsch:
Maybe someone wants to have my old HTC Touch Diamond? THAT is what I call laggy. ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kotsos44:
Lag is absent since the first 2.2.1 ! No need for lagfix at all . The phone is perfect with the stock 2.2.1 and given the improvements of 2.3 i do not anticipate the update as much as i did with froyo
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dadyal:
Galaxy s is fast with lagfix and i am sure 2.3 update will make it even faster
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dehem333:
Firmwares since jpu(2.2.1) are lagless!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gtluis:
OK guys.. I just started reading this thread.. I thought it was about Gingerbread but all I see being discussed is if froyo or eclair have lag or not...

Back to topic, someone mentioned that probably two more months to get 2.3, let's hope we won't get so much delays as happened with froyo, it was worth the waiting, but it wasn't nice being waiting :(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kotsos44:
We will get it at June
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zyo:
2020 that is, of course
[Galaxy S I9000 General] haloimplant:
I don't see this waiting being as painful as the wait for 2.2, mainly because of the awful lag in 2.1 we've been talking about.

2.2 is fast and stable. There's little reason my phone couldn't run this 'forever'.

What is coming in 2.3? As far as I know the only big feature we are getting is built-in front-camera supports. Beyond that there is minor improvements and features that we don't even have (higher resolution, gyroscopes, etc.).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Shujitzu:
My thoughts about updates.... Can't really rely on official updates.

Just imagine if you are the one selling the phone. Firstly, they have sold a lot fo this phone. Secondly, they are still selling with laggy android system. And finally they are working on newer models that needs more time and attention to sell it to one of guys like us, which always goes for the newer and up to date tech.

So the point is why spend so much time and resource to keep us happy with updates when they know they are not going to get any money for it.

Unless android goes universal update like IOs or windows phone, we will always be in left out with updates. I had SGS and using android for about 5 months now and all I can say its been good but I'm looking for more. leaning towards windows phone for my next one.:eek:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] omrij:
I hope that google optimization for hummingbird is comming
[Galaxy S I9000 General] haloimplant:
Do you know what the score is in 2.2? That chart only has 2.1 which we know was dog slow.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] omrij:
2.2.1 scores about 1400 in cpu benchmark
[Galaxy S I9000 General] haloimplant:
They're called repeat customers. It's very short-sighted to say that keeping customers happy after a sale is a waste. Luckily for us and them Samsung doesn't think quite this way as 2.3 is coming. I'd be happy enough to see it in the summer, less than one year after the device was released here especially if we get things like stock ext4 and good optimizations.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] well.heeled.man:
Who cares what the quadrant score is!? Apart from that score being well off, they don't really matter anyway.

The Desire uses the YAFFS file system and the Nexus S uses EXT4, so if you want to compare the hardware directly then the RFS file system is not the way to do it. If you want to compare apples with apples then use 2.2(.1) and lagfix your phone with ext4/JFS WITHOUT LOOPS OR BINDS, as these inflate the results.

I am running Darky's ROM 9.3 Beta 3 with Super Optimized kernel and my phone is plenty smooth and fast. However, when overclocked to 1.4 Ghz, it is unbelievably fast.

As nice as 2.3 would be, it is not a requirement for the SGS to become a nice phone!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] omrij:
I'm reffering specificlly to the cpu part in quadrant

my phone is with hardcore kernel, all partition are EXT4 (no loops/binds)

edit:oops, that score is before the ext4 lagfix...

here's one after converting to ext4
[Galaxy S I9000 General] well.heeled.man:
I would still question the validity of synthetic benchmarks. My SGS is much smoother and snappier than my girlfriends Desire. Also the role of the GPU in providing a smooth environment is overlooked

I would suggest that for a benchmark to be accurate it must a) be the only thing running (this is obviously impossible in the real world), or b) running in an identical environment, i.e an SGS ROM on the Desire or visa-versa.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] laptopvaio:
Gals and guys, I have both desire and galaxy s, if these manifacturers and money-monster network operators don't update the rom, I will go back to my landline if not to the courts.

Everywhere I see two years contract with a new phone but that phone is not worth a lot after two years.

What they want is to take every penny they can from you.

Will someone decent enough come up with reasonable 12months plan and you get any phone you like with just an upfront payment that is not beyond reason.

This way you do not have to rely on rom updates for more than 12months and you can say byebye tmob or samsung or htc.

This will ensure that consumers are winners and not slaves.

Whatever your opinion, make sure you know the total ownership of anything you buy.

Cheers!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Moosehunter:
You might want to add to that:

Samsung Captivate (2.3):5251
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Cooki3s:
Ironically the last update we will probably get will be the first with proper support for our phone's hardware.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] haloimplant:
Switch back to a landline and take them to court over a ROM update LOL.

Yes there is an imbalance between shorter and longer contracts. Around here you'll get about $150/year off on a 3-year, yes 3 years, but only about 50$/year on 1 or 2 year, yes again only $100 off on a 2 year.

However what would you call a 'reasonable' up front payment for a new $600 phone on a 12 month contract? Something tells me the numbers wouldn't add up... (They wouldn't add up for anything under $450 or so)

The phones depreciate fast, if you want a new one every year you're going to have to be willing to pay. There's also no guarantee of ROM update (although they did advertise 2.2). Samsung is doing us a favour if they give us 2.3 they don't owe it to us (you may feel entitled to it but I welcome you to look for that in writing).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ChrisSBG:
All these GB news popping up around the end of feb and the beginning of APRIL makes the whole deal a bit suspicious....

We will get 2.4, but from the amazing devs here at XDA a looong time before Samsung gets this update out officially.

Just my 2 cents
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TettZor:
Why not love the galaxy for what it is instead of yearning for things to come? I simply love my near unbrickable working horse with stunning screen and ability to play what ever the hell I throw at it. Its completely dead at the moment and I dont even own a computer so I have to wait untill I get to my office to revive it and I an not a bit worried that it will fail me.

Sent from my E10i backup android due to me soft bricking my sgs whilst tinkering with **** that I should have red about first...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Anik8:
Gingerbread isn't all its made out to be. Its no honeycomb. Its just a minor update, So if we don't get the update, so long as we got Doc and Darky, I'm still happy :D

The only advantage I see of a Gingerbread update is ROM Chefs wouldn't have to go through the pain of porting it to the SGS, or rather even theming froyo to look like Gingerbread :p
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Soniboy84:
I've tried so many roms, mostly from DOC, and yes it's not bad, and can call it smooth, but it's not even close to the iOs/wp7-like smoothness. I have a week old ROM on it, only a few 5-10 apps installed, one widget, I'm using all recommended from rom kitchen, I'm using lagfix as well. This choppiness usually comes out when I scroll through market, or applications, and I've already started a few apps before. It just simply doesn't react as quickly as it should. Just try to randomly tap applications, go back launch an other app, tap home, scroll through, launch an other one, use volume rocker, and in time you'll notice a slight lag. I might ask too much, but iOs and wp7 could do it. Just go into the store and try either of those. Your jaw will drop. I remember one update(2.3?) was just about this, to reduce the things in the firmware htc/samsung/motorola/etc. can change. That might be the first step to optimisation. It's an open os and nicely customisable, but that's also the drawback of it.

Oh, and it's not just the SGS, but the rest as well.

Sorry for offtopic...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] martijn00:
I'm curious what the real power of the Galaxy S is when the Hummingbird drivers get updated and android 2.3 is installed. I hope that the guys from CM7 fix there bugs soon so i can start testing.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alinescoo:
This sounds very promissing. I still wait for the official 2.2.1 release in my country. The Romanian Samsung representives said on Facebook that the 2.3 Gingerbread release will be at the end of March. I can't wait to see a leak of 2.3 to see how it performs.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewrock14:
I honestly think the SGS will never get another software update because the Galaxy S 2 is not far away.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] azzledazzle:
I have 148 apps to be precise and i find my phone is really quick and responsive, even when multi tasking.

Have you ever tried overclocking to see if that can make it a bit snappier ??

wouldnt recommend going past 1.2Ghz but some people have achieved 1.6Ghz but its not safe
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rajuki:
That's what I thought before my friend (He works in Q&A) told me otherwise. He is relaible :) It's only a matter of few weeks... So don't give up on it, yet!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Soniboy84:
Well, never tried Darky's ROM, maybe that would be the solution?

I don't plan pulling cpu to 1200Mhz, other phones can archive smooth result on 1Ghz, and tbh I'm a bit afraid about overclocking.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] theos0o:
@Soniboy84

I think what you want is a totally smooth UI (interaction etc.).

But as far as I know, android does not have GPU accelerated UI (correct me if I'm wrong), while iPhone does.

That's one big point.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kunjar:
If Samsung wish to take on Apple, and lets face it, that seems to be the goal, they better provide us with continuous updates, otherwise my next device will be an iphone. I just love the fluid, pin sharp display. Cant stand the pen tile crap on samsung. Ruins the whole experience, being able to see the individual pixels.

iOS history

1.0.0, June 29, 2007, Initial release on iPhone

3.1.3, February 2, 2010, Final release supported on first generation devices (Original iPhone and iPod Touch)

5/2 years of updates!!!!

Samsung better provide the same.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] boliveira2:
And what does he say about the update? Is it better than the current 2.2.1? Should we be excited about it? :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Intratech:
And still needs to be updated 5 more years because to date iOS still can't do simple things like transfer a file via bluetooth.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Soniboy84:
That's something I've never knew, although on it's own is not enough to have smooth interface. You need optimised applications and os for that.

Thanks for pointing out tho. I'm testing Darky's ROM, with lagfix enabled, I'm curious.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jonam90:
since froyo update was first given for nordic countries, i hope gingerbread update will also soon roll out to nordic users. :) :P
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Aphova:
Try CM7. It has the JIT optimizations for our CPUs from the Nexus S. Then go back to 2.2.1 and weep. Scrolling no longer has that jittery look in Gingerbread. Everything is instant.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
Except the browser. The GPU accelerated browser from samsung is a lot smoother.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Zeebad:
You think Samsung kept users waiting? I had a SonyEric X10 before my SGS, that was still on 1.6 when the SGS went to 2.2. X10 users were going potty! When it went faulty and my supplier offered to replace ith with an SGS I thought I'd won the lottery :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] PAGOT:
A little OT. But man I hear you. The X10 worst phone or android phone ever :D . And it was a flagship!!!

My boss has it. That phone, calls ppl from alone... best part, it doesn't show it does... he installed protection for this and it still does it. Ppl cant hear him... Even after factory reset the phone force closes apps regulary and SE says their android is awesome and on par with froyo so we keep it like it is :D .

Have you tried speedmod kernel with the sharpness fix?

And I am kinda happy with Samsung and their updates. coming from symbian , then android on hero and now SGS :) . I can say I like samsung :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Moosehunter:
The browser in CM7 is smoother than it was with the Samsung roms.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rajuki:
All he said that Samsung wasn't happy with the crap they got Froyo so they want to cook Gingerbread right in one go, besides the fact that he teased me with that he is running RC1 :) Bugger
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rajuki:
Yes. He gave the exact date for first of the Froyo upgrades in Finland along with Scandinavia as well so I bet it will be Nordic/Scandinavian countries in the first row.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Aphova:
Not by a longshot IMO. People, myself included, don't actually realize that Samsung did get a few things right. Accelerated browser, codec support, tethering ahead of its time, Swype (well, for me at least), DLNA, touchwiz for your average joe, etc. etc... Even RFS was good on paper. But still, they mutilated Android and left us in the cold with a proprietary bootloader and flopped filesystem.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dadyal:
no one will be able to get a fast phone in race of new model every month
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tojjer:
Believe me, HTC are just as bad as Samsung ( maybe worse ! )
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Moosehunter:
I almost always got lag in the browser on Samsung ROMs. With CM7, once the page finishes loading, there's pretty much no lag at all.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] My20:
SGS and Stock android 2.5 not best CM

Galaxy S 16Gb CM7
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Galaid:
Any proof? I am reaching around 5000 in sunspider, not that good...