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[HTC 7 Pro] mattykinsx:
So first I was accused of being a "Sprint employee" or "fanboy" because I wasn't continually being an asshole about the Echo.

Now I'm accused of being a "fanboy" because I'm stating facts.

Really nice. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
[HTC 7 Pro] wingzfan:
Ok so theyre all on the same page, that truely doesnt help Sprints cause

Sprint can and has done the same thing. If you use data in excess they can cancel you. As for throttling, if they didnt there wouldnt be a mod in this very forum to release the data governor.

Theres actually talks of this coming to Sprint as well. Allthough a return policy doesnt determine the carrier I choose.

Identical to sprints...they use the same company

Uhh Sprint owns he majority of clear so Im gonna have to place blame on Sprint for backing an obviously lacking company.

See when I bought the EVO I was told by the Sprint team 4G would be here by November, then again by Jan. 1st, then again by February. That hasnt happened and based on the comment from clear I wont see it in my market until maybe 2013. Verizon, T-Mobile and hell even Metro PCS have all managed to get it up just fine but gold ole Sprint cant seem to hold any promises.

But thats not the main issue I have with Sprints outdated and underwhelming performance. The issue I have is they are getting no new technology what so ever. The groundbreaking news was the equivalent of a tinker toy. Prices for theyre service are on the rise and now T-Mobiles beating them. Lets not even get into the outdated CDMA network we're on. God forbid a cloudy day in Michigan because service goes to crap instantly.

Sprints aged, and theyre lineup as well as service is a prime example of that. I hate Verizon or Id grab the Thunderbolt and be gone. Currently however Im thing T-Mobile and the Nexus s is the way to go. 4G, 130 family unlimited plan after discount and a much better network type.
[HTC 7 Pro] CheesyNutz:
sprint just tweeted

If you could design a brand new phone, what would it have? Ours will have a hub for gaming, music, pictures and video.
[HTC 7 Pro] wingzfan:
F@#$ windows phone it is....

Ugh.
[HTC 7 Pro] sgt. slaughter:
yeah its deff the HTC Arrive Windows7 phone. when they say "If you could design a brand new phone, what would it have? Ours will have a hub for gaming, music, pictures and video." that really leads into the fact you can do a bunch of xboxlive stuff on the phone like they demoed a lot lately.
[HTC 7 Pro] BrianDigital:
I now's my Mac gets like 60fpswhen I'm on crysis......oh wait and my Mac can play blueray.....um. the ****ing icons bounce up down when I click on them mofos
[HTC 7 Pro] sidepart:
I don't think I've ever had to be this transparent about my feelings on XDA until now.

This phone must be running

LAME 2.0

:mad:
[HTC 7 Pro] CheesyNutz:
from sprints facebook

If you could design your own phone, what would it have? A hub for gaming, music, video and pics? Contacts from email to Facebook in one place? A simple way to streamline messages? Sprint's next phone will have all that and more. Come back 2/24 for details.

http://www.facebook.com/sprint
[HTC 7 Pro] mattykinsx:
No, they aren't. If you have the more expensive plan [which equals about what you'd pay Verizon/At&t anyway] OR have been a customer for 10 years. You have a leg up.

You're referring to excess roaming, which is different.

The data governor has been considered more of a "mistake" in coding. It does NOT apply to other phones so I would agree with that assessment.

Talks? Where? Show me proof.

And it's just another kick while you're down by Verizon.

I'm referring to non-deductible related replacements.

4g issues were an unforeseen circumstance.

Sprint cannot afford to get too far behind so I expect them to do SOMETHING to alleviate that situation.

By the way, even with the issues, Sprint's 4g covers a third of the U.S. population.

Just because one announcement was "meh" when it comes to geeks, doesn't mean its the end of the world like everyone is acting. There is actually some interest in that phone....scary? yes. But it's true.

Here's the funny thing:

Everyone is talking about "all these sweet phones coming"

What phones?

The Atrix and Bionic?

Because that's about it for NEW technology and neither of those phones are even out yet!

We can talk allllll dayyyyy longggg about Verizon's LTE network but again, they don't even have an LTE phone out yet!

I mean at least if we're gonna compare companies, lets do it fairly.

You can say "well those things are coming, and soon"

Okay?

Do you really think that Sprint is just never gonna get more phones coming, and soon?

Of course they will!

And of course they will have some Tegra 2 devices out this year!

You're talking about the Thunderbolt well the Thunderbolt is Verizon's attempt to compete with the Evo.... the Evo came out last year by the way. It's nothing more than a rehash of the Evo....where's your comment about Verizon trying to play catch up, with a minor spec bump and LTE radio, there?

And you're talking about T-mobile and the Nexus S and their network....o...kay?

T-mobile has a significantly smaller coverage area and that $139.99, NOT $130 / month is half the minutes by the way...so it's gonna be the SAME price as Sprint but you get double the minutes with Sprint

and anymobile, anytime.

The Nexus S is nice but...is comparable to the Evo Shift in specs.

HSPA + is not that great either.

I have several friends with T-mobile "4g" and my Sprint 3g is faster.

We are in the Detroit suburbs.

Here's a link just to show that T-mobile's network isn't anymore "advanced" than Sprint's.

http://www.techflash.com/mobile/seattle/2011/01/sprint-t-mobile-verizon-rule-in-ces.html

I mean...you wanna compare...we're comparing man.

You say that Sprint's phones are older but cite two phones that Sprint's phone meet in specs!

You talk about aging network and then talk about T-mobile's network, the smallest coverage of the big four...you're just being especially hard on Sprint.
[HTC 7 Pro] strung:
Isn't WP7 dead?
[HTC 7 Pro] p0rkguy:
Everybody, quick! Announce that you're leaving Sprint because of ****ty phones. It might make Sprint give a **** about you and beg you to stay.
[HTC 7 Pro] JUST2SUAVE:
If you think windows mobile was great,I got a condo in hell I can sell you,free tanning
[HTC 7 Pro] JUST2SUAVE:
This
[HTC 7 Pro] NYCguy2020:
I HATE Windows Mobile!
[HTC 7 Pro] nyne7lac:
I've only played with a WP7 in the AT&T store for about 2 minutes. It didn't seem like it was anything to write home about.
[HTC 7 Pro] ProcessorHog:
This indeed is a WP7 phone. They call those icons on the home screen as "hubs" and a "hub for gaming" sounds like the lame-o Xbox live junk that they can do on the phone. REally, who the hell wants to play xbox live type of games on a phone? Subscribe to their service for 60 bucks a year to play teeterball with their friends on a damn phone?
[HTC 7 Pro] fixxxer2008:
funny as most of us at some point came from using it. :rolleyes:
[HTC 7 Pro] Award Tour:
WP7 has already announced cut/copy/paste, multi tasking, and most important to me, IE9. It's already very visually appealing and performs great. Gaming will be a strong point, Office integration, and great media support with the Zune software. Nokia getting in bed with them will inject some life into the user share. It's shaping up to be a great OS.

I wouldn't get the Arrive/Pro 7 since they are doing the whole unified hardware thing and the current HW specs are already old but the next spec refresh may be when I try it out.
[HTC 7 Pro] jxr94:
HTC evo 2 please.
[HTC 7 Pro] CheesyNutz:
nobody is forcing you to use it
[HTC 7 Pro] CheesyNutz:
2 whole minutes :rolleyes:
[HTC 7 Pro] fixxxer2008:
i played with it as well for over 20 and it's pretty boring. ill maybe buy one when it can be unlocked and run custom roms or UI's.
[HTC 7 Pro] halorin:
But your logic for what advertisement makes a high end phone or not isn't consistent or logical to me. That was my point.
[HTC 7 Pro] Beejis:
I thought it felt and looked pretty good, especially considering it is a completely revamped OS. I might be interested depending on the specs and what not (and if it is of the HTC variety, but not the stupid speaker HTC one!). But I definitely think it will be a WP7 phone.
[HTC 7 Pro] Beejis:
Now that I'm hearing it could be the HTC 7 pro I am kinda disappointed. Not really an upgrade from the Evo if you ask me...
[HTC 7 Pro] freeza:
Not even close. The 7 Pro kinda sucks if you think about it. It's not even a worthy upgrade to the Touch Pro2 if you really want to get technical.

Sure the screen, processor, ram, and camera are, but other than that.....

the OS: subjective. Landscape support is horrible

no expandable memory

no world phone capability (if it comes to Sprint)

same screen size

no awesome speakers

no dual mics
[HTC 7 Pro] fixxxer2008:
it's not? how so, the hardware is much better than the tp2.
[HTC 7 Pro] pittphan:
The announcement is the HTC 7 PRO WP7. its nice but wp7 gas the best software keyboard so I see no need for the HW keyboard. But it is mow the best sprint phone by default.
[HTC 7 Pro] mbaseball3:
Echo 2

Sent from the Evo
[HTC 7 Pro] halorin:
Can someone please explain to me why Sprint loves slide out keyboards so much? In today's world they just don't have a place in the high end arena.
[HTC 7 Pro] freeza:
Agreed! Keyboardless is the way to go.
[HTC 7 Pro] Rakeesh_j:
They're saying gaming so I wonder if it might be the playstation phone? Shot in the dark of course, but you never know.
[HTC 7 Pro] JUST2SUAVE:
This x infinity
[HTC 7 Pro] jagox5:
??

I don't Understand...

Samsung announce the Galaxy S2, Lg Has very nice Dual cores phones coming out

and theirs already leaks of the Motorola Droid x2...

Where the hell is HTC at?!?!

Where is my EVO 2 News??? :mad:
[HTC 7 Pro] splmonster:
HTC Arrive is likely the announcement.
[HTC 7 Pro] OgremustCrush:
LG Remarq 2...
[HTC 7 Pro] Last-Chance:
def a wp7. only os that fits the "hubs".

"Ours will have a hub for gaming, music, pictures and video."
[HTC 7 Pro] CheesyNutz:
could be a dell phone too they refer to some stuff on there phones as "HUBS"
[HTC 7 Pro] Crossrocker:
Please sprint don't make another mistake and make it a wp7 phone pleaseeeee

On another note, if it is wp7, wouldn't we be able to get android on it anyway? And I wouldnt even upgrade to the phone. That'd just be ridiculoisly stupid.

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
[HTC 7 Pro] Last-Chance:
wp7 is by far from any mistake. the hardware acceleration, along with the amazing graphics handling is far nicer and cleaner then android.

Its a more developed version of iOS.
[HTC 7 Pro] fixxxer2008:
again for the billionth time the evo2 may not exist, it's just rumors. while yes i agree sprint should get an LG 3d phone they have never carried any of the droid line.

this announcement is for the touchpro wp7 device. what makes you guys think the next flagship phone in june will necessarily be an android phone?
[HTC 7 Pro] fixxxer2008:
NO... you cannot. no development is really happening because they cannot even unlock to get custom roms or themes. it's not like the good ole winmo days, it's very locked down.
[HTC 7 Pro] mattykinsx:
Because Android is the hottest OS by far with growth...still.

There is no OS that meets it's current growth rate...even after all the growth of the last yearish.

Sprint, a company that is trying to pull themselves out of the hole they dug for themselves, needs to ride that wave.

Honestly, I think it would be intelligent for them to have a flagship Android phone, the iPhone 5, a solid WM7 phone, a WebOS phone...I guess as well.

Cover all the bases.

The biggest complaint with Sprint is lack of selection with phones.

Doing what I just said would be a huge step in the right direction for changing that image.
[HTC 7 Pro] fixxxer2008:
sprint has never had a great selection of phones, never will either. i can also guarantee that once there are custom roms/themes for wp7 it will give droid a run for the money. you would be surprised how many of us still have some love for winmo. i also seriously doubt sprint will ever carry the iphone in any shape. webos is up in the air too after the failed original pre launch and numerous issues with the phone itself.
[HTC 7 Pro] mattykinsx:
No offence but your entire post is based on your negative opinion [for whatever reason] of Sprint.

Most people would have said, two years ago, that Sprint wouldn't be rated number 1 in customer service.

Now it is.

Seriously doubt they will carry the iPhone?

Based on what?

There's no reason to think that what I said won't happen.

In fact there are reasons to think it will.

We KNOW WM7 phone(s) is coming, whether the announcement is the 24th or not.

We KNOW that Sprint has had a long standing relationship with Palm and will likely continue it with HP.

We KNOW that the CDMA iPhone is NOT exclusive.

And we KNOW that Android is the big ticket to success and growth...something Sprint needs to continue to grow and it's very reasonable that there will be a flagship Android device or devices.
[HTC 7 Pro] fixxxer2008:
1.) yes i do dislike sprint but that's not the reason for my response.

2.) lmao... that is all ill say about that!
[HTC 7 Pro] mattykinsx:
1) Sorry you feel that way.

2) http://www.4-traders.com/SPR-NEXTEL...ower-2011-Customer-Service-Champion-13563738/
[HTC 7 Pro] pwllem:
Normal Guy

I'm just a nomal guy who has stumbled into the xda developers boards. I'm intrigued by Windows Phone 7 because I have a use for the os. It intergrates with my work & play life. You could definitely call me a M$ fanboy with occasional Apple needs. I don't however have Android time. I can appreciate what can be done with it though.

I'm probably going to be one of those zombies who go out and get the new Sprint W7 phone because of the easy intergration into my business' needs. I use Office Live, XBox Live, Zune, & Office daily. For me it works.

My point is that there are some of us that this will be a "why the heck did they make this phone?" announcement. For others it will be a "why didn't they make this phone sooner?" one.

I know this doesn't win geek & techno boy points, but hey...cant win them all!:D
[HTC 7 Pro] fixxxer2008:
ive always had horrid customer service with them. not to mention getting my upgrade to the evo was like pulling teeth. that's the only reason im with sprint still, the evo + my discounts. if i could get out for free id jump on it.

not to mention the crap service my wife and i have been getting because they refuse to fix the towers by us here. they admit there is issues but two weeks later, no fix still. everyone i know local has been having issues lately. slow data, calls right to voicemail, cannot text at times.
[HTC 7 Pro] mattykinsx:
I agree they should have a solid WM7 phone or two.

For sure.

But Android is the hot ticket so Sprint should be sure to have a top notch Android phone or three. :p

I've never, in 8.5 years, not had them resolve an issue with me.

But then again, I'm the type that will sit on the phone..being courteous but stern...until the issue is resolved.

As far as the issues that you are talking about, they did acknowledge the issues to me and said it should be resolved by the 22nd.

They are even refunding me for the downtime.

Read my post from this thread, quoted below:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11504948&postcount=73
[HTC 7 Pro] aimbdd:
How many people that are bashing winmo 7 actually tried it? just curious...

and no, 2 minutes at the store doesn't count ;)
[HTC 7 Pro] bkrodgers:
It may not count, but 2 minutes in the store did not impress me. It was bland. Very, very, very bland.

I'm not opposed to giving it a closer look at some point, but I don't see a strong reason to go back yet.
[HTC 7 Pro] NYCguy2020:
Does 3 minutes at the store count??!:p
[HTC 7 Pro] Bp3dots:
Because not everyone thinks like you. There are many customers who feel like a slide out keyboard is a must-have on their phone.

Choices > Letting Hesse pick the one phone that all customers would be able to by all year.
[HTC 7 Pro] halorin:
Fair enough but don't you think 3 keyboard phones nowadays is a bit much? The Epic 4G and the Shift are redundant products in my opinion. The software is different sure but I can't see there being too many people that didn't want an Epic 4G because they wanted an HTC Sense based phone.

I'm all for choices, but diversified, competent, viable choices are better than choices that are pretty much the same thing.
[HTC 7 Pro] :
WP7 is awesome and if Evo 2 doesn't drop I'm getting a WP7 on my AT&T account (world phone purposes). The phone is slick and people base their opinions on the homescreen. It really is as fluid as ios.

Hey Matt you might as well put on a Hesse jersey and get some pom poms the way you ride Sprint.

In my experience their customer service is horrible. When I call in I have to educate them on their policies. I find this more of an issue when I get a rep from carson city aka phillipines. When I get a rep from the South they are kind but just as dense.
[HTC 7 Pro] Award Tour:
The Arrive/Pro 7 is all but guaranteed to be marketed as a business device (MS Office/Outlook), something the Epic/Shift can't pull off as well. A HW keyboard is essential.
[HTC 7 Pro] aimbdd:
hardware keyboards ftw.
[HTC 7 Pro] halorin:
That's a matter of opinion. I can type a LOT faster on my Evo than I ever could on my Touch Pro 2. Soft keyboards have come a long way. Back when touch screens were resistive without multiple touches I could see that argument but we just don't live in that world anymore.

I'm confident every top selling phone of the last 5 years didn't have a keyboard. Sprint's biggest success has been the Evo and they followed it up with 2 phones that don't cater to the same demographic. It just doesn't seem smart.

Sprint should see high end slate style phones are what sells these days. The traction they gained from the Evo is fading with their premier changes and the 10 dollar charge to 3g.

They don't have the luxury to venture far away from what's working for them, but that's what they're doing.
[HTC 7 Pro] halorin:
I'll be amazed if Sprint, or any carrier, hits iPhone or even Evo numbers with a hardware phone keyboard in 2011. Just saying.
[HTC 7 Pro] dog44:
I got it it is a phone with two QWERTY keyboards for simulcast typing on TWO different messages at one time!
[HTC 7 Pro] Award Tour:
...maybe for a text message. Try throwing in data entry into the mix. Like I said, it's probably going to be marketed as a business device.
[HTC 7 Pro] halorin:
I write a book on my Evo without a problem on my way to and from work. It's 2011. One hardware keyboard? Sure. 3? I don't see the need, and seemingly no other carrier does either.
[HTC 7 Pro] Award Tour:
Well, I disagree with you. The Touch 7 Pro is perfect for a HW keyboard. It's meant to be a professional device, brings me back to my WinMo mobile excel days. Anyway, it doesn't matter if the Epic/Shift exists; if anything, you should be complaining that those had HW keyboards.
[HTC 7 Pro] halorin:
That's not really the topic, but I didn't see why the Epic got a keyboard. Sprint has this weird affinity for keyboards in the modern era, where there's no business angle to speak of.

The logic of 'The Evo sold really well and got us a boost to subscribers. Let's follow that up with 2 keyboard phones, and Kyocera phone with questionable software and hardware options, and finally a windows phone 7 phone with another keyboard.

The Evo was announced at CTIA but the codename Supersonic and its features were known through leaks since 2009. I came to Sprint for the Evo but I'm feeling like Sprint just got lucky with one good phone.

But to each their own. I certainly respect your opinion and your needs from a phone.
[HTC 7 Pro] Bp3dots:
I wouldn't really consider a keyboard windows phone in the group with the shift and epic. (different android and wp7 customer types)

I can say that the shift flies off the shelf at my store, and selling epics is like pulling teeth.
[HTC 7 Pro] swaze:
I agree, those rumors had been around for a while, pretty similar to the HTC Sabor rumors that have been around and everyone pretty much dismisses them as just rumors. Well hopefully its true cause the specs rumored on that phone would instantly make it the best phone out period!
[HTC 7 Pro] OneStepAhead:
is anyone else excited about the concept of the echo? would you buy a dual screen phone if it was dual core and nand unlockable? i definitely would.
[HTC 7 Pro] halorin:
That really surprises me. I guess because the Shift is on those Evo commercials. I've never seen an Epic 4G commercial. Does the Evo still sell?
[HTC 7 Pro] halorin:
The concept is awesome. Everything else about the Echo is awful. Wrong manufacturer. Wrong specs. If each screen were at least 4 inches, the specs were a lot better, and the bezel was next to non-existent I would be all about one. But our battery technology is like 45 years behind something like that being worth having anyway.
[HTC 7 Pro] DirtyShroomz:
The majority of customers still want a keyboard and I pray that you stay on the right lane while you're using your phone and driving and away from everyone else.
[HTC 7 Pro] halorin:
Haha. I metro into DC. :)
[HTC 7 Pro] HondaCop:
As excited as David Blaine was the evening of the announcement.

PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
[HTC 7 Pro] NYCguy2020:
Lol..+1

10 char.
[HTC 7 Pro] mattykinsx:
Seems the Touch Pro 7 is the announcement.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/23/sprint-renames-the-htc-7-pro-the-arrive-launching-it-tomorrow/
[HTC 7 Pro] brownhornet:
shakes head and walks away
[HTC 7 Pro] halorin:
The Samsung Restore. Yet another Sprint keyboard phone.
[HTC 7 Pro] info[]box1:
htc7 pro on February 24 I'm proud that my back up PDA now has a successor. I am window mobile (w7) no questions. I have to take another glance at the hardware specifics.

Sent from by my Plutonium powered Evo... the Atrix is my pet literally.
[HTC 7 Pro] pwllem:
Taking Advice

I took the advice from an earlier post and played with the OS because by just reading I was Gung Ho. I got my grubby mitts on the Samsung W7 device through a contact I have in the AT&T org. Within no more than 7 minutes I was intergrated into 3 of my office live email accounts my gMail, google calendar, Zune account, Xbox live, facebook and enjoying an episode of King of the Hill on Netflix. I'm sold! I have it for 24 hours and I did find a few things I would do differently but all in all it is impressive for quick & easy access for a business owner.

Now after I'm independantly wealthy and have time on my hands, look out Android! I'll be ready to come play.;)
[HTC 7 Pro] Blitzpwnage:
If it has netflix I'm all in..I'm getting the arrive the day out comes out! Trying it for 30 days for sure out should I wait for ctia
[HTC 7 Pro] Rippley05:
Windows 7 phone... explains why there was next to no hype for it.

Boring smartphone =p
[HTC 7 Pro] spiicytuna:
*shrug* as much as I want to see a new Android device this is to be expected there's been leaks about this phone for a while now.
[HTC 7 Pro] Last-Chance:
no.

If i could design a brand new phone, it would definetly not have a 3.6 inch screen. other then that, it sounds good
[HTC 7 Pro] plmiller0905:
If Thursday's phone release is indeed a WM phone, I might just grab it. I have 2 lines up for upgrade. So I might just use one line for the WM phone and the other line if Sprint releases an Evo 2 or something similiar.
[HTC 7 Pro] mykenyc:
I'm really consider buying this phone on another line, but my question is, for those who used it is it worth it (hardware wise, smoothness etc). Also, not that i hate physical keys but i hate when a slider is loose so i hope it isn't loose. I'm not a Android fanboy who despise Windows mobile, i'm actually curious, will windows phone 7 get updates for free like Android?*
[HTC 7 Pro] Rippley05:
Yes

It's obvious that this is my opinion, and you disagree. Nothing wrong with that. ;)
[HTC 7 Pro] mykenyc:
Why do you dislike it?
[HTC 7 Pro] Award Tour:
WP7 is supposed to get iOS/Nexus-like universal updates. A minor one was recently pushed out but MS had some problems with the Samsung phones.