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[Windows Phone 7 General] Thresher:
I'm sold where can I buy one? I kid, I kid. I have a Focus.

One thing is for sure, the overall opinion of the phone UI is excellent for all the listed reasons. Thanks for the post.

I compare this current experience to my experience with Windows 7 rc. Much like the day I installed Windows 7 to my lowly Dual Core (e2150, 2gb, 7200 HDD), it was good but not great in terms of speed, quick but not fast. Then, the cycle moved on and new hardware at low prices came into my life...

Now at Quad Core, 8 gb, Dual GPU, SSD, it is like driving a Buggati Veyron, downhill, on a 5 lane speedway, with no traffic. Life is instantaneous, the only limit...my ability to click as fast as it acts. ha! It happens as if I had on a thinking helmet and it sucked the idea out of my head! :eek:

I can only imagine wp7 on the set of phones that will come out...8 months...1 to 2 years from today...oh yeaaaaaa

close your eyes, think about it. Did you think about it? Think again, that's right. Amazing.

Wasn't that nice? Ahhhh yeaaaaaa

With dual core and a 2x faster GPU...oh my...it will get smoother and faster...hard to imagine and exciting at the same time. :splooge:

All in due time, I am happy with my phone today and happily have put my development time into other projects and not Wm6.5. Like this one from Johnny http://hackaday.com/2011/02/09/low-cost-video-chat-robot/
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
The current WP7 devices are fine. Just make sure you get one with 16G Storage and 512+ RAM or hope you're gonna be lucky enough to find a big SD Card that works well the first time. Data loss due to a bad/incompatible SD Card months down the line is... Unfun!

I want my next phone to have the IBM Watson OS :P
[Windows Phone 7 General] Reflexx1:
I don't really expect to see WP7 handsets with faster processors. It isn't needed. Every app or game being made will be aiming for a certain minimum standard.

I do see improvements coming in extra features (like a front facing camera). And I do expect to see handsets with more and more memory.

If the end of 2011 brought WP7 devices with the current processor, but also offered 768 MB RAM, 32 GB storage and a front facing camera, that would be one hell of a competitive device.

Then in the holiday of 2012 we could see WP8 push the hardware limits by launching with some really high minimum specs. But at the same time, still support WP7 for "budget" handsets.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
They need sexier devices. I must admit the three buttons on the front do look classy.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
The minimum specs must be maintained and they must be maintained at a level that ensures user experience will not be compromised for people who bought launch devices. In the holiday season of 2012 people will still be stuck on contract with current devices, probably for months to come.

All of a sudden apps will be updated in a way that their phones will choke running these apps.

Just upping the minimum specs because you think it sounds cute is a dumb idea. I doubt Microsoft will do it, and if they do, people will sort of laugh at them and they will lose a ton of customers. By then RIM will have QNX Blackberries and WebOS may be well-developed. There will be even more choices than we have today...

They really have to take an "Apple" approach to hardware support, IMO. It's the only thing that makes sense sort of overspeccing your devices and enticing a bunch of geeks to upgrade their phones every year for major software updates/bug fixes every 9 months to a year.
[Windows Phone 7 General] beesneazy:
Yeah but is it partially due to room? I mean, Sense ROMs running slower than the cleaned up and simpler AOSP ROMs? I get the lack of acceleration ... a d understand the end result and why people might complain ... but my phone is snappy even though at times I notice slow down .. but that is hardly reason to ignore stability updates, even others. I mean , while my phone might be running smooth here ... it may slow down there. I see the choppy scroll .. but I've seen friends WP7 - uh, phones? - slow down at times too.

I get sick of this WP7 is constantly butter because its not. More often than not? Sure. But I rarely get agitated at the speed of mu device and most don't either ... sure I can see it, but I've also seen my.phone jump as much as my friends WP7 devices. It all depends. Overall, sure ... but it still doesnt touch iOS. To think you are major steps ahead is hype. More overhead here .... lack of acceleration here ... it's not shocking when you think about it. Android uses more resources and overhead ... you have such q standardized system. Its almost not surprising. And it's NOT suggestive of you being "good" at the moment.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JuWa:
That's a great article. I agree 100%. I had a Samsung Galaxy S and with it's freshest time it had the most powerful chips int the markets, but even today it is not lag free, because of crappy Samsung optimizations to the software. That's why I really don't believe the new Galaxy S II will be any better with it's dual core. You could see it from the videos, that it's laggy at the moment and I don't believe Samsung will get it lag free ever.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
fast hardware = bad ?

this smacks of hardware envy something terrible.

surrrrre, android + quad cores will suck... but wp8 will be perfect. whatever, if ever.
[Windows Phone 7 General] kappo78:
Why is 512+ RAM important, I was thing about getting the HTC 7 Pro, which only has 448 RAM and also is 16gb necessary if I don't use my phone as a media player as HTC 7 Pro only has 8gb as well?
[Windows Phone 7 General] eternalemb:
Beesneazy, you're either completely full of crap or just delusional. I mean wow. Android fanboyism at its ugliest. Yeesh.

Ohgood, did you read the article? If you did, perhaps it's time to go back to Hooked on Phonics to work on word comprehension...

Anyhow, on topic, I completely agree with the article posted by OP. Kiddies like these Android fanboys love to deny the truth but it is what it is. Did everyone really think Microsoft would just sit back and be pummeled in the mobile phone market forever? With the right moves in the future WP7 will be huge. Maybe knock Android back down to third or fourth place and setup a head to head with iOS...

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[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Yes, and when you get your quad core phones that are still lagging, and still dont recieve the latest updates, and are still running a version of android that is essentially a pallet swap of 2.1 and still looks like a low end iphone we'll be happy with our maybe dual or maybe quad-core phones that run smoother, have better games (because aside from iphone ports and maybe 1-2 other games androids selection is just terrible), have a decent media player, have oustanding integration with business and personal matters, and we'll actually have a NEW OS not just an overhyped pallet swap of the previous version.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Fact WP7 will never catch Android or IOS.

Sure WP7 is nice. Serious competitor, nope.

Think realistic and remove your love affair. Maybe WP7 can be 5th place or if things go well 4th place.

Now flame on.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Reflexx1:
I'm not sure what you're attempting to address when you quoted me. I never mentioned changing the minimum specs of WP7.

And I think it's pretty much guaranteed that WP8 will have a completely different set of minimum specs. Do you expect it to never change?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Exactly! I agree they don't need more powerful devices but they do need more appealing hardware (for a start a 32GB device would do no harm).

Sad but true. WP7 is quite late and if you think about it the real launch will be with Nokia, I doubt they'll sell anything before that as nothing has changed since October.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
this is true only because the majority of cellphone owners are complete morons.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JuWa:
WP7? No. WP8? Possible.

Think how fast Android became the most popular OS. As quickly can WP come the most popular OS in the future.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Reflexx1:
I think you said anything controversial.

WP7 won't catch up.

WP8 on the other hand will make a good run at dethroning Android.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tone_:
vetvito you are so sad stalking these forums pretending your girlfriend had a WP7.

Will WP7 will catch android, doubtful but I imagine WP will..
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
:D

Microsoft could try and get gamers to buy WP7 and hope other people follow. They are using the Xbox brand so they should make the most of it as more and more people are also buying their phone as a gaming device.

Not sure they got that though.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
the name calling and degrading tone isn't really needed.

yes, i read the article. i'll completely agree that wp7 is a smooth running phone operating system than android currently. so is iOS. so is palmOS (or is it hpOS now ?). so is quite a few of symbian's.

does the smoothness of an operating system negate the problems of file sharing, lack of applications, and lack of user uptake ?

here, let me send you this funny video of a kid falling off a log via bluetooth, wifi, or hell even an email attachment. wait, that won't work with wp7 will it ?

please, the point i made was that hardware is a wonderful thing. i personally don't care if wp7 has a 200mhz chip, or a quad core 2Ghz inside. if it doesn't sell, developers won't adopt it, and it will languish. i -want- to see it succeed, and push iOS and Android to even better developments. i -want- competition. competition in the phone markets is directly beneficial to me. new hardware being released on incredibly fast update cycles is directly beneficial to me. a phone that was impossible to purchase 2 years ago is now available on craigslist, new-in-box for less than $250. this is insane hardware achievement !!!

there is absolutely no reason that wp7 can't run on a quad core, whatever gpu phone either, other than M$ (rightly) trying to prevent fragmentation. apple has it pegged, android is accomplishing domination by being open, and wp7 is still trying to find it's niche. give it time, it may happen, but there is no need to bash incredible hardware achievements simply because it's not currently available in a wp7 box.

:) remember, we'll never need more than 640k
[Windows Phone 7 General] mcorrie1121:
Android and WP7 owners generally have different needs or expectations from their phones, at least the owners that frequent forums like this. They will never see eye to eye, and these arguments won't solve anything.
[Windows Phone 7 General] amtrakcn:
But who actually cares about specs?

What people need is applications.

We buy faster Graphic Card to play Crisis, quad-core CPUs to convert video better.

If there is no improvement to application, why would you need a higher spec?

If you upgrage your Xbox360 to have a GPU 2x fast, is that meaningful?

This is what's going on with Android. Games and apps have to take care of low-end phones so your high-end specs are mostly waste. Also Dalvik VM is inefficient so you will need higher spec to meet the smoothness of iPhone or WindowsPhone.

And again, Android dominates not because it's open but because it's cheap. Timing of Android is dramatic. WM was falling. If you want a system that is cheaper than iPhone but more "smart" than Symbian, Android is the only choice.

I'm not optimistic about the future of Android. People will eventually discover what they had were just another themed, touch-optimized WM, with lower functionality and efficiency.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rruffman:
With Nokia selling over 100 million smartphones a year not only will they catch Android they will surpass Android by mid to late next year..
[Windows Phone 7 General] mike21pr:
isnt this the same thing haters cried out when iPhone was released compared to blackberry?? How about Android with iPhone??

Give me a break!!! The crystal ball you use to get your so called Facts is nothing but rambling because you and nobody knows what can happen next

FACT: Microsoft did great in implying hardware requirements to avoid the mess Android is now

FACT: WP7 is leaps and bounds over what iOS and Android was when released. Hardware accelerated, CP and multitasking in less than a year, fastest growing app store, huge developer interest etc. so momentum is defenetly on their side

FACT: Teaming up with Nokia will skyrocket that already high momentum when Nokia is gonna offer WP7 devices to its developers and it will defenetly try to wean Symbian owners to WP7 which is the biggest chunk of the pie

FACT: This is Microsoft we are talking about. If they are serious about something, they have the resources and money to make it happen. Thay have the Biggest PC marketshare by a landslide, Xbox 360 is the most selling console, and back when Palm ruled the PDA game, it was dethroned by Windows Mobile back before they started to slack off <<<--- ok this part sounds M$ f@nboish, but it doesnt make it any less true

WP7 may suceed or it may fail, but counting it out just when its released is just ingnorance. IMO the market will dramatically shift their way Q3-Q4 2011 when Nokia is established and in the game alongside the Mango update and all the new apps from here to then and 2012 they close the deal
[Windows Phone 7 General] makoute:
How do you know when the software updates starts to roll out, the current hw will be enough?
[Windows Phone 7 General] amtrakcn:
It should be enough within 1 year from launch:D
[Windows Phone 7 General] mmegalodon:
Because they don't agree with you?

I get some of the arguments argued against WP7 ... its not terrible but it wont touch Android / iOS at the rate its going.
[Windows Phone 7 General] amtrakcn:
Rate?

There was 0 WP7 devices 6 months ago, there are several million now, that's an infinite growth rate!:D
[Windows Phone 7 General] mike21pr:
WP7 will suceed IMO... in due time of course

The problem with the traction right now compared to Android and iOS, was that Android did not have Android to compete with back then, so what worries me is that as great as WP7 is, not enough people will jump to it off the bat in the iOS and Droid era since those two platforms are proven already and WP7 isnt. Will it prove itself? YES. Will they do it right now? NO. Mango should be the update where things balance out better for direct competition and the race should begin then. Remember that it just launched so you cant expect it to be as feature rich as competitors so they will need a while to develop and update. At least developers are on board and MS are pushing forward so it wont die on the way like webOS did
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
So uh... anyone remember how Android didn't get much of any followers until they released the Droid series which in all honesty made it look like a low end iphone? Yeah... that took them quite awhile. Then from there they didnt SERIOUSLY pick up with ATT/T-mobile until Galaxy S series. Those phones are pretty much new. WP7 is picking up faster than most people seem to realize.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mmegalodon:
Way to jump on a post. I'm not denying that SOME devices are being sold ... and, yeah - honestly, its early .... but you jumped on that there. I don't deny that I'm interested to see the rate at which WP7 advances ... but it has been sort of mediorce at the present. And yeah, its early. Android took a minute, no doubt .... but that whole argument about how some ish did - or had - back then and how its acceptable or normal now is different. Its a new day. You don't hear people using that argument for other things. Shouldn't be used to justify WP7's lack of explosion or shortcomings. "C'mon man!"
[Windows Phone 7 General] amtrakcn:
That's just ur unrealistic expectations...

I cannot recall any platform that had "explosive" sales since launch. I mean platform, not a specific product. A platform can only have its ecosystem built up after launch.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mmegalodon:
Missing the point. WP7 was hyped ... it was supposed to make a splash. A ripple, at best, so far. So much missing even though (insert name here) may not have had it at launch ... its a new day. WP7 has not met expectations en mass. People had decided with their wallets. People looking forward to it and decided, based upon what was reported, decided to go else where or just give it up. Its not a huge deal as its early hut its still a bit of an eye opener. It's early, plenty of time for it to pick the pace up and for people to sign on .... but as it stands it is not an extremely compelling direction to take your business. That's all I'm saying ... and the rate that it is NOT growing doesn't mean there isn't a rate of growth. Don't get it twisted, and once again I get the idea and the direction has yet to be established. I'm not just steering clear beause I'm some "Android fanboy" or anything as I have no problem with signing on to something new .... so long as it provides something I need or something I believe in. As it stands it doesn't do anything for me ... and apparently not for the masses as well. People continue to sign on elsewhere .... if it was a compelling enough argument people would sign on early and sign on for the long haul. So far it hasn't proven as such. I'm not immediately and totally hating ... just generally agreeing with the people.
[Windows Phone 7 General] amtrakcn:
How can you tell WP7 is not making a splash? Because there are not many WP7 devices been shown on MWC? or because engadget did not report many positive news on WP7?

I think it's just you dont like WP7 so you suppose people dont like WP7. Then you just ignore the achievements WP7 has made so far.

People are choosing WP7, at least in 2 weeks we are going to have more apps than BlackBerry.

BTW, tt's hard to read your post...
[Windows Phone 7 General] mmegalodon:
Bahahaha the usual "you must hate." I don't have nearly as much as the people I know who tried WP7 and went back to what they knew. Its alright dude, I don't want it to fail ... more options n more choice is healthy. Obviously. But if you want to continue to ignore and go with the bull**** standard fanboy response yourself - something I have clearly been avoiding - then you go right ahead. Just saying that people expected a bit more out of it and clearly it hasn't been as well received as some expected. And I don't even frequent Engadget, to avoid such petty fanboy **** .... but whatever. You do you. Or WP7, specifically. I'm not hating, brother.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Number of apps don't mean ****, especially if there are no customers.

Developers developers developers! It should have been customers customers customers, users users users!

People are morons, and some people just can't afford quality.

A local carrier here is selling Android phones for $100 no contract. A cheap ass huawi phone, I've seen more of these than iphones lately.
[Windows Phone 7 General] amtrakcn:
Those are different demands. Some people are willing to pay 800USD for an iPhone while someone else want the phone to be as cheap as possible.

Apple only have high-end products and has less customer than Android. However the fact is Apple gains 50% profit of the overall phone market.

Who cares the total number of customers? They dont pay for what they install on Android.

We can see that games appear on iOS first, than ported to Android with degraded graphics months later.

The developers are important because a large developer group are more likely to come up with better apps that customers are willing to pay. This is the whole idea about ecosystem. More developers, more paying customers. More paying customers, more developers.

Even if the $100 Huawei phone outsold iPhone in future, it's neither likely powerful -apps would appear on low-end Android deveices nor would Huawei grow faster than Apple of the past 5 years.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
You are not concerned with the performance of your phone because you are accustomed to it. In addition to that, you don't strike me as the type of person who would give WPy even a full week of use before making a decision about it. Looking at your friends' WP7 phones is not a decent way to make a decision about the platform, unless you're on it almost as much as they are.

Android doesn't just use more overhead or whatever. It's bloated and it's developed like a Linux distro. In addition to that, people who want upgrades to fully utilize their hardware are left with their nutts in their hands - either you buy a new phone or use warranty-voiding custom ROMs. Android is bad for consumers, IMO.*** iOS and WP7 have a much better system, and I'm certian WebOS and Blackberry's QNX OS will be better than that. Google needs to step it up.

*** Except if they have a Nexus phone, which are only available off contract at retail cost, and the Nexus S is fairly crippled even compared to some mid-range devices (No SD, Low Res Video Recorder, Still has a low amount of RAM after system boot, battery life isn't much better than carrier-subsidized Galaxy S phones, The Hardware is already pretty much last-gen (which makes me wonder why people mock the WP7 launch hardware, which admittedly isn't exceptional, but meh...), etc.).

I don't know what you mean by "un, phones." As a phone, WP7 has a user experience above and beyond what Android offers.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
there are no sales figures now. what for you base this on? crystal ball or magic 8 ball?
[Windows Phone 7 General] V1ViD:
The funny thing is, when Android was just a baby(Which was what..a year or 2 ago?) the reactions to it were "No way this will be able to compete." "Android is failing already." " Android is horrible." etc..etc..

Funny how quickly things change...
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Differentiate:
Hey there,

I own a HTC Desire HD running a stock 2.2 Froyo build with HTC Sense.

I have 2 problems.

1) My upload does not work properly. I cannot upload photos, videos or share anything via any app. For example, if I want to upload a photo to Facebook it would go to a random value Eg. 86% and then freeze there.

I also face the same problems in the web browser. I can browse fine but when it comes to posting in a forum, uploading or trying to enter values into a search engine, it fails 95% of the time.

This problem doesn't have to do with my connectivity as I connect using my home Wi-Fi network with full signal strength and uploading works fine on my laptops/desktop.

As far as I can remember, I have always had this problem.

Any fix for this?

2) My second problem is that the News widget by HTC has ceased to update and when I try to update it shows up as being updated even though the date shown is one week ago. I have tried to unsubscribe from feeds and resubscribe but it gave me an error message saying I could not unsubscribe. I'm guessing this might be related to Problem 1.

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I really don't want to do a factory reset on my phone, so if there are easy fixes to both of those problems, it would be appreciated :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Differentiate:
Bump. (Sorry if this is against rules, tell me if it is.)

Please help me or at least give me a fair idea of what problems I could be facing. Thanks ^_^
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] Sir_Eagle:
Where is it located at? And can it be changed? Running GSB 1.6
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] It IS Lupus:
I thought the lockscreen was transparent and whatever you set as your wallpaper was your lockscreen
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] Sir_Eagle:
What I want was to have one wallpaper for the lockscreen and different after unlocking.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Maybe they'll eventually add that in to CM7's settings. Right now AFAIK the only way to do this is through third-party apps like WidgetLocker, which I use (Look & Feel/Alternative Wallpaper & Select Wallpaper). It's a pay app, but you can try it trial. I love being able to have any normal widget on my home screen.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] PieceKeepr:
I don't see a trial version. Do you get to use it for a while before it either stops working or you pay for it?