yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Epic 4G General] edonnelly:
The file being downloaded is not flashable. It needs to be compiled, but it does appear to have everything needed to make the complete flashable .tar file (at least for the new kernel).
[Epic 4G General] ttieder:
Ok sounds good i am on bakedsnack 1.6 which is 2.1. Anything i need to do like go to dk28
[Epic 4G General] bohiti:
it probably won't matter what you're running. If you utilize our dev's, you'll probably have an ODIN tar or update.zip, both will do (or require) a wipe of your phone.

If you want to OTA from Sprint next week, you want to get to something close to stock 2.1.
[Epic 4G General] ttieder:
Ok sounds good i can wait thank you but we will probely have to odin to the new update then reroot or no
[Epic 4G General] edonnelly:
I wouldn't do anything until someone comes up with something we can use. From my perusal of the code, it looks like code for a new kernel plus android open source code. I'm not convinced this is the whole update. But there's a ton of code to look at.
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
Well, this is already giving errors on kernel compile for me :( Oh well, it will have to wait till after 5.
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
WOW, I heard hell just froze over,now Satan has his ice water,and a pig just landed on my car window... Have you ever seen source released before an official release of the actual build...
[Epic 4G General] humdrum2009:
Wow

Hmm this olive branch may work lol.

now lets see if we get-official Monday or earlier.

even the sprint store manager was excited at the news lol.:D
[Epic 4G General] gdbassett:
Can't wait for cyanogenmod beta 1, "samsung is slightly less cruel"
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Now that we have want we want from froyo

Lets rant about not gingerbread

But after the froyo came out before 2099 party
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
Where is my honey comb damnit
[Epic 4G General] quickstang:
When you get a new phone that is NOT an Epic. At the rate Samsung is going, you'll never see it on this phone.

Your best bet is a new phone, or a phone that Cyanogen already has it running on.

CyanogenMod 7 release candidate 1 is available for the HTC EVO 4G, MyTouch 4G, Nexus One, Nexus S, HTC Aria, HTC Desire (GSM/CDMA), HTC Slide, HTC Desire Z, T-Mobile G2, HTC Desire HD, HTC Legend and HTC Droid Incredible.
[Epic 4G General] bohiti:
Well, the theory is that having this 2.2 source (and initial reports make it sound good, lot of drivers), will help us get a version of CM7 eventually. Whether blessed by Cyanogen himself or not with regards to those political / code tree issues, I guess I don't really care at this point.
[Epic 4G General] ghostrid3r:
Have you tried compiling the kernel using the instructions provided in the README.txt?

SPH-D700_Froyo_update_EB13.tar.gz > SPH-D700_kernel.tar > README.txt
[Epic 4G General] tokyomonster:
I'll give it a go. Disclaimer: I've never built a kernel before.
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
Does that mean you can get the mic issue fixed on cm?
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
For his to be really useful sprint needs to release eb13 right. What if they don't what if they release ec04 or something? I think sammy is kicking the can down the road now only sprint is to blame why we don't have an offical release.
[Epic 4G General] tokyomonster:
At this point, despite us seeing other proof of other builds, I think it's safe to say they'll release EB13.
[Epic 4G General] globalninja:
Because ec04 would be march. So all the internal documents would be completely wrong. Thus creating the froyo revolution.
[Epic 4G General] hayabusa1300cc:
awesome we should have something flashable by now lol

and screw Gingerbread! They already working on Ice cream!!

At this week's Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, Google's former CEO, now Executive Chairman, Eric Schmidt delivered a keynote address where he revealed the future of the Android mobile operating system. Currently, there are two distinct versions of Android: Android 2.3, code-named "Gingerbread" for smartphones and a newer, tablet-optimized version of Android 3.0 called "Honeycomb." Schmidt says that the two separate versions will be merged in the next release of Android.

http://www.readwriteweb.com/mobile/2011/02/android-gingerbread-and-honeycomb-will-combine-to-form-ice-cream.php
[Epic 4G General] tokyomonster:
<bahleeted>
[Epic 4G General] skeeterslint:
Now if someone would leak us the odin flashable that would make today a really good day.
[Epic 4G General] globalninja:
ah ok I understand, much like the december rumor. But this will still be a huge benefit for us.
[Epic 4G General] skeeterslint:
Have you tried to flash it yet? Did you modify the .config and add in the initram because without that this source will not build a working kernel.
[Epic 4G General] tokyomonster:
Negative. I can...but I'm running DI18 on my phone at the moment, so I'm not sure what repercussions that may have.

Would I just odin to flash the zimage?
[Epic 4G General] skeeterslint:
Without adding in the initram its not a functional kernel.
[Epic 4G General] tokyomonster:
Ah. My noobness is showing :P
[Epic 4G General] skeeterslint:
Samsung only puts half of the information you need to build the kernel in the read me file that comes with it they expect people to know what else needs to be done to it to make it work.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Well thats a step up..but to get some more progress don't we also need the modem?

psst..samsungjohn?
[Epic 4G General] skeeterslint:
Not totally we can use thye dk28 modem too but who knows what fixes are the new modem we could be missing out on.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
umm..didn't noobnl and others say the modem is what they need as dk28 modem wasn't stable?
[Epic 4G General] skeeterslint:
Like I said it would work but we would be missing out on fixes.
[Epic 4G General] dwallersv:
Sammy deserves all the guff leveled at them for their poor support.

Similarly, they deserve props when they do something right.

I know people are cynical, fed up, etc. However, it looks that Samsung is trying to address their poor performance, and we should encourage it, rather than criticize it.

My perspective: I know I can't personally "punish" Samsung by taking my business elsewhere. So, my purchasing decisions are based solely on optimizing value for myself. If Samsung turns around their support issues and becomes a strong partner for us in the tiny "advanced" user community, I'll continue to be a Samsung customer. Refusing to on the basis of spite punishes only one party -- me.

I understand the anger and resentment -- I share it. But it makes no sense to exact revenge on myself over Samsung's bad behavior.

Sent from my mind using telepathitalk
[Epic 4G General] dr_gibberish:
+1

and can we please lay off SamsungJohn for 5 minutes and see what happens? I'd hate to scare off a possibly great development for our community because people feel like venting on the guy...
[Epic 4G General] tokyomonster:
Hey there, you're approaching a reasonable reaction! We can't have that!

Pitchforks! Get your pitchforks!
[Epic 4G General] vitreoush:
Props

Props to Samsung. This is the first step towards making things right with U.S. Galaxy S buyers (and particularly Epic owners). Hopefully you've learned your lesson and will be releasing more and more source-code in sync (or even before!) the OTA releases. Still, I'm gonna be watching what you do with your next few phones before I buy-in again (hopefully the Epic will last me a good long while).

I can't wait to see what devs like noobnl, Mammon88, and Dameon87 do with this.
[Epic 4G General] riceknight:
I think its funny that half the people downloading this probably have no clue what to do with it but are just excited :)

I'll save my excitement for the new modem and full build. If my GPS isn't fully functional, I'll be very very annoyed.
[Epic 4G General] zenvita:
Of course he is. No more upset customers complaining about not getting it.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
OK, lets just enjoy this for a while! Want gingerbread? Go bake it! campaigning against Samsung? Post it somewhere where the general public will see it, not here!! Go to the captivate forum, you think YOU were mad at Samsung.... and yeah, just forget SamsungJohn and his rigged poll... if he has something to offer, he will let us know.

Have some fun, nerds!

;)
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
http://www.multiupload.com/V6XHWUVHVY

Here is a mirror, have fun :)
[Epic 4G General] imwillzillla:
Wow you're naive if you think that releasing a basically unusable open source Tar will make up for the lack of support, lies, and generation behind O.S. Not to mention, Froyo for the Epic still is not released yet. I am very happy that it seems like it's finally coming out. However I am not delusional enough to think paradise is ahead if I choose to continuously deal with this company who have done nothing but show little regard to current devices and focus mainly on unreleased ones.

Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it!!!! :)
[Epic 4G General] rgregg504:
For those worried about the official ota android central is reporting that sprint officially announced it. Rollout on 21st everyone will have it by the 25th.
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

!

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
Epic high five

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] FoxRacR17:
Is that the official odin tar??? Or just a mirror of the one that other guy made a couple pages earlier?
[Epic 4G General] readermo:
that would be me! :D
[Epic 4G General] HeXeD:
Well seeing that Samsung never promised anything until the end of the year, I would say everything you just listed against them is pretty much a wash. It only took Samsung 1 1/2 months more after they promised Froyo, which was by December 31st. This is an absolutely acceptable amount of time delayed. Don't like Samsung? Go get another phone. Such a drama queen... THE LIES!!! THE LIES!. Samsung didn't "Lie" to anyone. That's like waiting on a friend to show up somewhere, and when you call them they say "I'll be there in 10 minutes". 15 minutes passes.. they show up.. and you start shouting "LIAR!!!! LIAR!!!!" Give up on electronics if you can't handle delays, it happens in every company no matter WHAT the technology.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
You mean any US carrier?? Theres your problem company, or companies. I know Samsung has their fault in there somewhere too... but its the carriers too, if not mostly. can we keep all haterade in the 2.2 tinfoil hat birther section???
[Epic 4G General] riceknight:
If my friend promised to meet me and 1 1/2 months pass, I'd be rather pissed :D

In actuality, the release date alone caused some friction as other major phones (Evo *cough cough) had already been updated. Releasing it so long after an already delayed promise? That just compounded the problem along with a total lack of transparency and communication.

Keep in mind that this isn't just about Froyo. It's not like 2.1 was bug free and had perfect GPS.
[Epic 4G General] dr_gibberish:
I think Samsung employees are all secret muslims! SamsungJohn? SamsungJihad if you ask me! ;)
[Epic 4G General] knx2:
You must be in the wrong forum. Samsung promised froyo for the samsung epic by the end of last year.
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
Except Samsung/Sprint didn't answer the phone until a month and half later when we called.
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
Yeah and the bad thing is froyo is not even the newest operating system.

Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
[Epic 4G General] chino0131:
WOW. You compare a 5 minute delay to a 1 1/2 months? Lets use your 5 minute comparrison another way. If you told your employer that you would be running late and were 5 minutes late to work, your employer may have no issue whatsoever. If you are 1 1/2 months late, well I dont think any employer would be forgiving of that and call you a liar.

There are many people that based their purchase of the Epic on being told that there would be a 2.2 update before the end of the year. Some that were within their 30 day return period and considered returning the Epic due to GPS issues kept the Epic based on being told about the 2.2 update would fix these issues and be released before the end of 2010.

While you may not be pissed and not feel lied to (I personally could care less about it all at this point), as a consumer people have every right to feel lied to when they base their purchase upon information provided by Samsung, or any company for that matter.

And delays happen all the time, yes. What you fail to see is that the issue most people had was the lack of communication from Samsung on the delay.
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
The only phone that is beyond Froyo (officially) is Google's "developer" phone. The jump from Froyo to Gingerbread won't be nearly as extensive as going from eclair, especially since Samsung has been working with Gingerbread ahead of everyone else. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the Epic take the next step before the Evo does unless Sprint somehow hamstrings it because they don't want anyone pissing on their flagship.

Plus the added features you get from Gingerbread compared to Froyo isn't anything earth shattering. It's no where near the differences between eclair and froyo.
[Epic 4G General] snowmanwithahat:
I seriously think you are delusional if you think the evo or the epic will get gingerbread officially
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
I honestly wouldn't care if they did. There is nothing about GB that makes me think "boy really could use that feature."

New keyboard, BFD, I have a physical keyboard and I like Skype

Prettier UI, I use Launcher Pro so I could care less about the stock UI

Built in task killer, nothing any of the several apps out there can't already do.

Only feature I would even notice would be any sort of performance increases, if there are any.
[Epic 4G General] Mook1e:
If the Epic gets GB officially before the Evo, I'll get a Samsung dual core as my next phone. In other words, I doubt it.
[Epic 4G General] Milkman00:
Doesn't Gingerbread better support universal copy paste functionality between applications??? This is something I am very interested in.
[Epic 4G General] ryno502:
Universal Copy/Paste

Screen off animation

Revamped UI

Performance Increase

NFC (if Epic had the hardware)

All features I would like to have.

However, now that our devs have Froyo source, CM7 won't be too far ahead.
[Epic 4G General] themirthfulswami:
As long as I get official 2.2 on my Epic, I will be satisfied. As much as I'd like to think this phone will see multiple OS updates, I just don't think that's really in the cards for the vast majority of Android devices.

If only Google would employ the Apple/HPwebOS update model *sigh*
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
NFC does nothing for the Epic. I will say the copy/paste improvement would be welcome.
[Epic 4G General] ryno502:
Yes, I know. I am just saying, in general, NFC would be a cool addition.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Froyo is what every android phone should hve since its complete.

Gb and beyond are just add-ons

I hope they release an "in-os" video call option though....like winmo and facetime...

Does WP7 have vdeo calling built in as well?
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Meh...I don't think its worth an update just to add nfc...unless I was in japan...

Mmmmmmm buying videogames with mysmartphone. I won't ever bring my wallet
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
It will probably never get like Apple or HP because all their software is propriatery and built specifically for their own devices. All Google does is build the framework then it's up to the manufacturers what they want to do with it. At least with Android being open source, we get to see independent developers do their own kinds of things giving us choices.
[Epic 4G General] noobnl:
Source doesn't do ****... it the linking binarys in froyo final we need eb13 ram disk... plus the userspace libs
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
not just an update, would require a new phone upgrade as right now the Nexus S is the only phone stateside that I know of that even has the chip to use it. We are still a couple years before NFC is even practical here.
[Epic 4G General] HeXeD:
...which would be December 31st.. which makes this a.. 1 1/2 month delay as stated.
[Epic 4G General] imwillzillla:
Re check your info. Samsung on their twitter promised by the end of October. If paying for a samsung phone that was to have froyo on it soon after its release is me being a "drama queen" so be it. And lol@ "go get another phone". That logic will help customers jump on the bandwagon. Pink hats such as yourself are celebrating froyo when in fact, you don't have froyo yet. You have a tar file that you can't even use with odin. Spare me. I paid my money for my phone and in the samsung forum I can discuss when the suck.

The intercept has froyo, evo and evo shift hav it. This phone was by samsung or sprint promised to have froyo. If sprint was talking out of turn samsung should have commented on it. If sprint came out and said samsung sucks they would have responded. Why not if sprint was baseless in their advertising?
[Epic 4G General] rgregg504:
Well someone called it days ago, its finally here and the *****in continues.
[Epic 4G General] HeXeD:
LOL. :rolleyes: You kinda missed the point there and your analogy was worse than mine. 1 1/2 months extra to a promise made 6 months ago is not like showing up to work 1 1/2 months late when you promised to be there in 10 minutes. but let's use your employer comparison another way...

You say you are going to be at work in 10 minutes, then you show up 1 1/2 months later. Well if you got into a wreck in that 10 minutes, and spent the next month in the hospital, I'm sure your employer WOULD be forgiving. Because you were not lying. Your "intent" was the factor on whether you lied or not. BUT.. if you said you were coming into work and you were on your couch eating cheetos and never planned on coming into work, well that would make you a liar.

And your comment about 2.2 being promised by the end of the year and people basing their purchase of a 250$ phone and a 2 year contract on a promise made 6 months ago (and never made again) means they were gambling. If a company said "We will release XYZ update by the end of the year" in June, and by December, no official word had come out on said update, I would never buy a product for an update that has not happened yet. But let's be real, If someone bought a phone in November or December based on the fact that a company said 5 months ago that they would be releasing Froyo (which tbh, has not been an official declaration by Sprint or Samsung to resolve all GPS issues), then they would be waiting an additional 1 1/2 months later to get that update. If they don't like it, return it. Pretty simple. My GPS had no problems on DI18 out of the box. If a major feature does not work on your phone, return it and keep doing it until you get what you want.

And you're right, we all have the right to "feel" lied to. We pretty much have the right to "feel" anyway we want. Feeling are fickle, but facts and reason are so much better to base your opinion on.

Lie

noun, verb, lied, ly·ing.

a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth;

A delay in a promise is not lying, no matter how much you feel lied to. If Samsung said "We promise to give you Froyo by the end of the year" but secretly behind closed doors didn't have 1 person working on the update and had absolutely no intention of delivering on that promise, that would be lying. Kinda similar to the employer analogy I made above.
[Epic 4G General] HeXeD:
Please provide your source, cause it seems like you are the one who needs to check your info.. If you were talking about the promise to have Froyo by September, that was moved to November from Samsung, you should have noticed the tweet that was used to make that, samsungmobileuk

http://pocketnow.com/android/uk-samsung-galaxy-s-gets-froyo-in-september

So then in October, Froyo was pulled and promised for November, ANOTHER samsungmobileuk tweet. So you're telling me you expected a US, CDMA version of Froyo before the UK who was promised to get it earlier? Those are some pretty lofty dreams.

It's been said time and time again that Samsung announced the release of froyo for all US version Galaxy S phones sometime this year (meaning 2010). then they tweeted about it saying all Galaxy S phones will get 2.2 but with no date mentioned.

http://www.androidguys.com/2010/06/30/samsung-confirms-galaxy-series-phones-android-22/

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/29/samsung-says-all-galaxy-s-phones-will-get-android-2-2/

You can complain to Sprint about the "soon after release" promise but you can't complain to Samsung because THEY NEVER SAID THAT. And the way I look at it is you are complaining about a 1 1/2 month delay, and you seem to think it is a 6 month delay. So yeah, I think you are being a drama queen. I think you have all your facts criss crossed. Maybe you should be on the Sprint boards because it doesn't seem like any of your issues are with Samsung.

and I'm not sure what a "pink hat" is, but I'm not celebrating anything. So you saying that pretty much affirms the whole "Drama queen" statement but I guess we'll agree to disagree. I've been celebrating froyo on my phone ever since I put Nebula 1.6 on it and never looked back. But yeah, that tar file you can't use with Odin because it is source for Froyo. I don't know if you know what that is, but it is actually MUCH cooler than having the flashable Odin update from Sprint. Minus the modem which most likely has not changed from DK28, it has everything our devs need to made some bad ass roms.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Selling a dock that's not 100% useable until froyo comes out ("soon") should count as being deceitful
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
That's why Sprint wouldn't carry it. The only way to buy it is online 3rd party or at Best Buy.
[Epic 4G General] spitefulrain:
I bought mine at the sprint store when i got the phone.
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
If he's talking about the desk dock, maybe. The OEM car dock is not officially available through Sprint.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Umm, did I miss something? Samsung stated they would HAND OFF Froyo to carriers before years end... which they did... then, the carriers screwed the pooch from there, either in-house, or sending it back, saying 'waaah we want it root-proof'... regardless, they supposedly sent a version that they were done with in like October, a month after the initial rumor from launch. I REALLY dont think they would make a promise that all US carriers, OTHER COMPANIES would be done bloating by X date... silly.
[Epic 4G General] HeXeD:
This is the first time I am hearing about this. What doesn't work?
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
oh jeez... thread merge to 2.2/Elvis/Building 7SamsungOsama thread....
[Epic 4G General] pipskicks:
I think us getting Gingerbread relies on the developers. With my old phone I'm sure more Rom's would have come out if the devs hadn't bought new phones...
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
audio out. it is supposed to be a media dock, not just a charging dock.
[Epic 4G General] HeXeD:
well that sucks.. nowhere I looked did it say that you needed froyo, but if that is the case then THAT is deceiptful.