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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Milan Kragujevic:
Hello! I'm n00b and i don't know English good. Can anyone give me link to manual how to run android on TyTN II ? And tell me what is DPAD button?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
it is Navigation Center Button on your TyTn II. The bug square button the in the middle of direction keys
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Milan Kragujevic:
Thanks for fast answer! I press it when linux ask me and it display error no system.img. It's polymod2.1d
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Millence:
Send me a private message and I'll find time tomorrow to explain, step by step, the whole procedure.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Milan Kragujevic:
I downloaded whole andboot folder, copied to MC and run haret.exe . Tap Go and Tux penguin shows up with loooots of text. It says to press DPAD button, i pressed it and it says that it can't find system.img. Some where i read that it's reason why to press DPAD, but it won't work
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ljjehl:
you have to press the middle of the dpad button right when it prompts you to do so..if you also press other parts of the DPAD button, it errors out and you have to start over

I believe you may be missing the eclair files (androidupdate.tar). My question to you is, why are you over here when you are intending to setup something else?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Milan Kragujevic:
Can you put all files togeter and pack in to .zip ??? Sorry, im n00b
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ljjehl:
no, that /andboot folder, you need to get the androidupdate.tgz file and put it in there. From that point, you can press haret and start the install (don't forget to press DPAD when prompted) The file has to say androidupdate.tgz, so you do have to unzip that file you downloaded and put the androidupdate.tgz in the /andboot folder....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] emy_77:
Hi dark_prince,

I changed from "not so super froyo" to your "modified fresh froyo", because I have the issue with low storage memory with not so super froyo and not able to install many apps. With your froyo, so far it has been good. It's faster than not so super froyo and I can install apps like angrybirds. Just one question, for music, sometimes, I found that the songs diasppeared from the list. I have to reset to make them appear again. Do you know why this happens? Hope you can help. Thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
Just unmount, remove your SD card, then insert it back. Usually happens when previously stored list of songs doesn't match with current location of media :)

On every insert of SD Card, Android searches for available media and indexes it for faster playback in Music / Video player.

I'm glad that you found it worthy :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slackerz_86:
erm.... NooB....

hi guys.... im kinda new to Android platform on HTC.... i was wondering how to install modified fresh Froyo 2.2.2 (NAND) on my HTC TyTN II. im really noob at this... i can't understand all the wikis and tutorial in the forum.. PLS PLS PLS help me..... i need a thorough tutorial...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WaqasJ:
Dark_prince I have just installed your build. The colors on the build seemed off, with some lines appearing on the screen and some icons didn't seem right. Dont know if my Kaiser is giving up on me, but as far as i remember, it wasnt the case before.

Also can you include a free file explorer with the build, as it becomes a problem since software installation etc becomes an issue if somebody doesnt have a wifi or gprs configured
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
Change the panel type lol. You are using an incompatible panel type in kernel. What panel type you were using before installing my froyo ?

I have already included AndExplorer with my English version as well as All lang version. Just look into the Applications drawer and AndExplorer is there :)

Considering wifi, if you want it right out of the box, install 2.6.32 kernel on the expense of no USB support. Otherwise just install androidupdate on 2.6.25 kernel and wifi should work like a charm
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
okay! seems like noob :P

Just Take out battery, put it back into your TyTn II. Remove the SD Card as well. Then Keep Camera Button pressed and power on your kaiser. Tell me the text your screen shows in 3 colours (SPL = ?)

Also what is the radio version you are using? 1.65.x or higher? What is current windows mobile OS you are using? have you installed any custom windows mobile rom before?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slackerz_86:
replied....

the files i got from the froyo are, 2.6.25_KAISIMG.NBH, androidinstall.tar, aindroidupdate.tgz. my tytn II is wm6.1, rom version 3.34.721.2 wwe, radio version 1.70.19.09. so wat shld i do nexxt?? btw SPL is 3.34.0000

LOL I AM A NOOB!!! hahahaha!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WaqasJ:
I guess the wrong panel type was the issue, now i can see the softwares including AndExplorer too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Milan Kragujevic:
Need help with HARET and No system.img

Why you won't pack all files in .zip and only i have to extract them to SD card and run ???

I downloaded from here http://www.androidonhtc.com/wiki/Latest_Builds_(Kaiser) and when i tap Run on HARET, i says "No system.img" i tried to press dpad, but it wont work!!!

Help help help help!!!

edit: I succeeded!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slunlcko:
Great ROM.. stable fast.. I ve got one stupid question (maybe offtopic) : whats that widget above dock on screenshot? Looks great with those percentage a memories.. Ive been looking for something like that long time.. can u plz tell me that.. And last question.. first time ive been using dual mount without problems, then ive reinstalled this app and its not working.. im using .25 kernel
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] franksss:
Hi dark_prince, I'm trying to install this rom using haret but I got a problem,

when I boot using haret on my 2 GB sd card (fat 32) I get:

"Hold down volume up or Dpad center to launch installer"

I have tried it both but either way it immediately skips past that part and gives me:

sh:2 unknown operand

losetup: /dev/block/loop1: No such file or directory

Failed

Failed to reach system.img on SD Card

I mean it doesn't give me the time to press the button, it immediately gives that error.

I have spl 3.34

radio version 1.70.19.09

custom windows mobile 6.5

in the andboot folder i have:

androidinstall.tar

androidupdate.tgz

default.txt

initrd.gz

zImage (zImage-2.6.32-froyo-14-01-11_14)

haret.exe

what am i doing wrong?

thanks in advance for your help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
Just install one instance of dual-mount. If its not working, try resetting Super User permission. If still not working, try disabling USB Debugging and also clear dalvik cache (you might lose some apps' settings). You will get it working again. Add dual mount widget to your home screen and enable/disable it manually.

Regarding that secksy widget, its called System Info Widget by Jason Calhoun. Available in Paid Market or just simply buy it from AppBrain :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
Sooner the text starts rolling, Keep your DPAD Center button pressed till the install menu appears :) Usually zimage skips the wait which is there at "Press DPAD Centre button to Enter Install Menu"

If you are using 2.6.32 zimage, you dont need androidupdate
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] McM:
Hey,

I'm using the "alllang" Pack and the .25 Kernel and it works great, thank you for your work.

No lags, stable and fast.

greets
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] franksss:
Hi dark_prince,

thanks for your help, now I am able to get to the Install Menu, but after I press "Install System" it says Formatting...

and after few seconds I get:

cannot determine if /andboot/system.img is mounted

losetup: /dev/block/loop1: No such file or directory

failed to mount

lol, what's wrong now?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Milan Kragujevic:
Why screen is at wrong resolution?

Everything is on wrong place, touch is not working on Android 2.2.

BUT on Android 1.6 everything works fine...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] f4ll3ns3raf1n:
how did u do that?

from beggining: u have folder andboot with neccesary files

u Run haret.exe, run script, then install on SD (i guess u choose SD Partitions),

then u choosing exit and it works?

mine kiser stopped after few lines of code, trying to run android,

it only works for me when i've installed file kaisimg.nbh, but then windows mobile doesnt starts, only android :-(

edit:

now it shows "you need to unzip a rootfs zip"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
The kernel is configured wrong for the sys/data I think (Never been into Dual Run OS thing and I never used Haret). You must configure your zimage properly in atools, or use an older Kaiser zimage for SD install

Radio Version 1.65 or higher is recommended. Wrong resolution? or bad colours? change panel type through Hex editor (look earlier posts in the thread on how to do that)

Just put complete package in andboot folder, run haret, long press DPAD button to enter Install menu. Then install, and quit the menu. Android will run by any chance if you have a correctly configured zimage
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wolf_skin:
I am a newbie here, I had a question that any limitation for the application size? because after install this build, I go to Android Market and download Google Map, then click OK to accept the permissions, the error say "Sorry, there's not enough space to install this item", I try the Angry Bird too, the error still the same, I check with these 2 program sizes which over 5mb.

I test in the partition of "system / data / Swap" in "NAND2 / NAND3 / Auto" which system show me that I still have 5xMB in phone storage.

Then I change the "system / data / swap" to "NAND2 / SD Partition 2 / SD Partition 3" (I separated my SD card partition to 1G FAT32, 2.x G Ext 2, 256MB Linux-Swap), system show the the phone storage have 2.23GB.

So, I wonder why I can't install these program.

Sorry for my poor english.

Thank you very much.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] f4ll3ns3raf1n:
Can smbdy put somewhere (rapidshare, etc) complete package, which works for You?

i'll be very gratefull
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cosminmocan:
hi i want to test youre android build can u please put in a folder all the files i need and upload it to mediafire for flashing it into nand i already use an old android via haret but i coudnt find how to get yours or anyone elses to nand thx an

I want to use the us version M.Cosma
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
Check androidonhtc's latest builds. It has Final Dark Eclair with complete haret package and 2.6.25 zimage. All you have to do is replace androidinstall.tar with mine 2.2.2, add androidupdate after installation and fix permissions.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
Hey man... change you signature please!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] blacki3:
Thank you very much. I've been tryind to install android for 3 days and with your posts i've managed to do it.

very nice and very happefull

But i have one problem. when i try to install an aplication it says that i don't have enough memory. What should i choose to put data on memory card? Can i do it without partition the SD?

And also, when i configure the google account it syncs only the calendar and the contacts. Not the emails. why?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mikiano:
Thanx, finally a pretty fast and stable one!

Thanx Dark Prince, I've been trying several builds and this is the best by far. I still get some freezes and need to reboot sometimes though. Especially when the phone has not been used for some time, the screen won't turn on again. Maybe you have an answer to that? I am trying panel 2 right now (was using 3).

Another minor thing is that I am trying to change the hardware button assignments, like assigning the camera to the camera hardware button. But I can't seem to find an app for that. Does anybody know how to do this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
Are colours bad? or screen takes forever to wake up?

What SD Card you are using? usually lockups are caused by a slow SD Card if you are using Data on SD.

Atools has keyboard mapper, but as far as I remember, that disabled my hardware keyboard completely and also my build kept forever in booting
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mikiano:
Thanks for your quick reply. The colours are fine. Screen wake up is sometimes ok, sometimes really slow.

I am running Android from Haret/SD, not NAND. It's a 8 GB MicoSDHC Sandisk, doesn't say how fast. Can you recommend a quicker one?

Do you think it makes a huge difference to install it in NAND? I have been reluctant to do so, at least not until there is a stable version that can finally replace my Windows mobile.

A bit off-topic: the build shows as "Android on HTC Vogue" in Android Market. As a result, not all apps can be installed. Is there a solution to this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
NAND install is superduper blazing fast. It costs you the data storage which is limited to 110mb only but worths the usual stuff you do on a phone. Kaiser is not built for a hardcore gamer and you can easily fit all of the related office/phone related apps in 110mb for sure
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
Gmail app is removed

Regarding not enough memory, how big is the application you are installing? Rest of the questions, I have answered you somewhere I think.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mikiano:
Ok, i'll try nand. What about the market issue? How do you handle it yourself?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zxxxy:
Only thing I dont use Android instead of Winmo is camera and stability. How can I make camera o android to have auto focus?? I never had autofocus on any build/kernel/radio. With this rom and 4partitioned card could I get enouth stability?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] viewedit:
Hey dark prince, good rom, been using for 3 days now on vodafone.

Is this 3G compatible? I am not getting any 3G icon or data speed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
No idea about 3G yet, in Pakistan we dont have it. Try configuring data manually, who knows you actually have it there and it just doesnt show up. Glad that you're liking it
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] chandra_100:
i have tried this few days ago and has good /stable results-if i remember 3G ,GPS worked.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gaecor76:
Hi,

this is a stable rom,

but have a problem, don't charge my device

only by USB connection I can charge battery....

and also, I don't resolve a problem for connect device to pc...can't find the drive, help me

thank good job
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] IsaacNikon:
Good afternoon dark ... well I mention I have htc kaiser and I'm working with http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=953943 ... then it works all right unless calls and mp3 files, is that when I turn on my phone call, hang up, and the next call and I hear nothing from the speaker ... it is due? ringing tones and music work for me because I do not recognize mp3 files ... any solution? thanks.

This English translation is from google, sorry.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] msichal:
<delete that post, i have no idea how to do it>
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
Update your radio version to 1.65 or higher

I haven't used that rom till of yet, so I can't tell whats causing it. Did you upgrade your radio rom to 1.65 or higher? No audio, crashes on call and lockups are all caused by an older radio version.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] IsaacNikon:
I have a radio 1.71.09.0 change the radio?

I do?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gaecor76:
I'm have the radio 1.71.09.0 the latest.........you can I do downgrade?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] IsaacNikon:
Well I changed the radio from 1.71.09.0 to 1.70.19.9 and now everything works, sound call camera etc, thank you very much everybody.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WaqasJ:
Which flash player can be installed with this rom, so that flash enabled websites can be viewed and youtube videos played?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
I haven't tried installing flashplayer yet, though I tried on froyo once from freewarelovers.com and that gave me "Can not install application" message
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] famewolf:
I can follow copying the one file to the folder on the sd card and running the nbh....but since space is limited whats the best sizes to format an 8gb minisd for use on storing apps and having swapspace? Additionally how are you going about installing an app "to sd"? I'm perfecting willing to start the sd card clean with nothing but the andboot folder with the install.tgz in it.

My main phone is a T-Mobile HD2....haven't had to worry about app2sd up till now as it had plenty of nand space.

I would like to make my old Tilt a decent backup phone that can run some current apps.

Thanks for the nice looking rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] chandra_100:
Will this ROM support SYS on SD card as ext4 (with a supporting kernel) and data on NAND. Anybody tried?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
Swap Partition must be added in the end. All partitions must be primary, kernels I have provided support Ext2 format.

Formatting sequence is like this

Fat32, ATLEAST 120MB EXT2 for system on SD option, ATLEAST 120MB EXT2 for DATA on SD option, SWAP

You can make the size of data partition bigger according to your needs. Considering performing power of TyTnII's CPU, 120MB on NAND is more than enough I think, but if you are installing some games and bulky software, Data on SD Card is nice option on the compromise of slow disk speed.

Thats kernel related. It should work and I haven't tried it yet coz of heavy disk usage in Ext4 that might r4p3 your SD card. lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ljjehl:
I used this format:

Fat32, ATLEAST 120MB EXT2 for system on SD option, ATLEAST 120MB EXT2 for DATA on SD option

but no swap. Will the swap help a lot in speed?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] minipilot:
Locale

Hello Dark Prince,

Good work, its nice and stable.

But i had one question: How shall i install the alllang.zip to get another locale?

I try to rename this to androidupdate.tar but it dont work.

:confused:

Thanks for your answer.

EDIT: My Mac unpack the Zip and the TAR in one step... So its solved!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] famewolf:
what is being used to show the system stats in the screenshot of post 1?

*nevermind...found the answer in the thread....thanks*
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mfrazzz:
Got this loaded on my old Tilt, and so far seems to be working fine (have it overclocked at 485Mhz, and using an nbh from Famewolf that sets it to Panel 2 and the Tilt keyboard).

My son is now wanting to use this as his primary phone, but has found that when he turns off the sounds, vibrate doesn't work for notifications when SMS come in. Has anyone else found issues with vibrate only setting? Could be my noob'ness to Android here too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] famewolf:
Does anyone have a framework-res.apk that enables a battery with numeric countdown?

Latest quirk...battery will not seem to charge...battery light is red and stays that way.....I went from panel 1 (artifacts on screen...bad colors) to panel 2 and screen looked alot better but perhaps I needed panel 3.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] LotusLTS:
Help, does not see the memory card in camera and player. how to fix it? pls help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] LotusLTS:
understood the problem, it does not work with 2.6.25 Kernel but worked with clemsyn's Kernel (2.6.32)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9768617&postcount=63
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
Open Inbox, Press Menu button > Settings, Enable vibrate for notifications
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] famewolf:
Kernel with Compcache

Is there a kernel that works with this rom (preferably .25 for stability) that enables compcache? I'd like to be able to enable that and the "keep home in memory" options in spareparts but they don't appear to be available.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
Cyanogenmod based roms have that. Mine is based on stock froyo.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rezza maulana:
ask: kernel

dear chef, can i ask which kernel is the bset kernel if i use HARET, please give me the link. thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
Never used Haret :| All I did on the first place was NAND install.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sunnykhan000:
i am running win-6.5 in kayser tytn ii and i want to know how to flash this android rom to my device plz help thanx in advance

hard spl 1.34 done plz reply
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] detachablehalo:
Here is a link to a sticky thread that describes the process to flash to Android: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=680518

I followed those instructions when I did my flash a couple weeks ago.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MathijsNL:
Hey,

thanks for this really sweet build. I even get normal speeds for my 3G, and without overclock it still runs very smooth. Great job!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cn2661:
Hi there, first is to thank you for the hard work,

your rom really works fine and run quickly.

i really appreciate how it works

but i just have one problem,

about the battery.

You know, once I have used up my battery,

so I just swapped in a spare one, fully charged for sure.

Android just cannot realise such change, keeps showing 1%, plug in charge

and the drained one, i charged it with traveler's charger (not by the phone itself)

so if I just swap it back, it still shows to be 1%.

PS: Kernel version .26.

and second question is, while suppose .26 kernel supports USB sync function,

when i plug it into my laptop on Win7, it just keep searching for driver, (but not allowing my to select any drivers)

how to make this work?

Many thanks. and wish to see your new products soon, cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
The USB connection is set to debugging only. If you want to transfer files, use SD-Share or Dual Mount SD Widget (works only on .25 kernel)

Otherwise, use ES-File Explorer to transfer file shared on your network to your phone on .32 kernel.

The Battery thing is weird....... I too got errors related to this but couldnt help myself regarding recharging the battery. Android wont identify your battery as fully charged till u recharge it through the phone.... bad eh!

I am currently out of development and running Windows Mobile 6.5 just coz of hell alot of crashes on init.rc so this is probably my last build for android on TyTn. All froyo ports tend to crash on init.rc and battery feedback is still not fixed
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Neo2SHYAlien:
Huh it's so sad news. For me your build is favorite for stable and fast work, really sad news.