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[Vibrant General] N8ter:
That depends on where you live. Since this is the Vibrant forum I'll assume we're talking T-Mobile...

Not many people around here have T-Mobile, and their coverage is worst than Boost and Virgin so there are probably more people on Boost than on T-Mobile. Trying to sell a T-Mobile phone here won't get you anywhere.

Plus, the Value of these phones have gone down quite a bit.

Most people don't really see a point in buying a phone at off-contract prices, or anything close, because even if you buy at contract price and ETF 2 weeks later, the phone is cheaper.

So I rather buy on contract knowing I'm not poor and can ETF at any time on T-Mobile than buy a $500 phone and act like I'm better off because I'm off-contract.

$499 off contract, or $199 (with rebats) + $200 ETF fee two a few weeks later to end the contract?

Don't see a point in paying those prices for off-contract phones...

The contract prices only matter if you stay on the contract the entire time, but it's ALMOST ALWAYS cheaper to buy at contract price and ETF on T-Mobile later, than to buy an off-contract phone. You're actually throwing money away if you buy it off-contract.

That is precisely why AT&T and Verizon raised their ETF prices up about $100 bucks. To make the contract price + ETF = retail price. T-Mobile still hasn't, so it's cheaper to buy on contract and ETF break the contract after the first two weeks or month (depending on if you're waiting on rebates).
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
The HD7 is an upgrade in user experience. I still have the Vibrant. Actually use one before you pass judgement (using one goes beyond playing with it for 5-10 minutes).

I'm using the Vibrant SIM in the HD7, so my upgrade date is still the early date. I'm cancelling the HD7s SIM card. When the phone came in, I took the SIM out of the Vibrant and put it in the HD7 [and vice versa]). Pretty sure I made that clear in my post.

I don't want my old SIM using the new number. I want the new phone using the old number. That's why I will just cancel that SIM when the 14 days is up. That new SIM card is in the Vibrant right now, which sits unused, and is pretty much dead to me (don't see any reason to use Android over WP7 - WP7 is actually a lot better than fanbois would have you believe :) ).

Don't care how much the plan costs. I get a corporate discount and work pays a portion of my bill. I'm absolutely sure I pay about 50% or less out of pocket than you do for your off-contract price.

If I have to call customer service, that means the carrier failed in some way or another. I should have to call them to ***** and moan about anything, so I don't care about that. And it's not like the Activation fee breaks the bank. You pay 9x that for the phone buying off contract than I do doing it my way.

Most of the price advantages you get, will be mitigated easily via upgrade pricing, and especially if there are multiple upgrades in one year (I will save $200+ in one year over someone buying a phone off-contract if they upgrade their phone 2x, and when my normal upgrade time comes, I'll still be able to get upgrade pricing, saving more at the end of the 2 year contract - and I can STILL sell my old phones, and lose less money on the sale to price drops since I'm only paying like $2-300 for the phones instead of 5-600).

You just have to know what to do, and have some patience. Phones always go on sale, if you wait a couple/few months.
[Vibrant General] funeralthirst:
no, that part wasn't clear. this part:

i knew what you meant, though.

yeah, i wouldn't be so sure...

it's not just when they screw up, it's anytime i call (outage, change plan, warranty, etc.). but then again, anytime i call i tell the automated system 'cancel' because there is less hold time, you are guaranteed to get someone who has worked there at least 6 months, and they get bonuses based on you simply not cancelling.

but that's great your way of getting phones works for you. i prefer no contracts (on anything).
[Vibrant General] TheShadowMan:
[COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC] Unless its a Falcon chipset. :cool: [/COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC]
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
i don't know how people can like WP7.

seriously i can't.

And yes I have used it.
[Vibrant General] MilkPudding:
1. Pay the full price of the phone.

2. Pay the full price and sell the old phones on ebay.

3. Extend the contract for another 2 years and pay the difference.

I know a lot of people use method 3. But the downside is you are stuck with the carrier for at least another 3 years any time.
[Vibrant General] bartek25:
+1 i do the same and also i rob the store manager when he leaves the store .
[Vibrant General] blizzard1017:
I guess my situation is slightly different then everyone here. I actually have two lines that are very close to a year apart in activation. I have mine(original) and my daughters.

Every two years I get the upgrade but it boils down to every year really. I just upgrade whatever line has full upgrade that year and pawn my old phone down to my daughter. Only 10 year old I know that has owned a blackberry, g1, mytouch, and later this year a vibrant lol.

My rate plan for both lines with full data on each is $170 so I am pretty content with the contract. I have been with them for years so I also get customer loyalty kickbacks.

In the end it's just shuffling money around, you either pay upfront or the back end no matter how you do it.
[Vibrant General] intruda119:
Sorry wasnt super clear but yeah the newest white 360 with hdmi and all. Not the black one.

I just made the switch to hd7 and my main problem with my vibrant was lag. I told myself Ill take 3 months off of android and try something new. Everything was perfect for a couple of days and then just constant lag and force closes. I truly just got tired of it. Ive been flashing roms since mda and g1 days. I just need a break.

Hd7 is a nice device. It fulfills my needs right now. Google voice, email, internet, very little facebook/twitter and music. Only thing im missing is my torrent and remote desktop app. Im enjoying my lag free device but ill be back to android later in the year.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
My work pays $79.99 of my bill.

I have a 15% corporate discount on a Family Line with 2 phones. 700 Minutes (Line 1 and 2 use maybe 3-350 a month) and Unlimited Data + Family Texting.

59.99

20.00

30.00

30.00

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139.99

-15%

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118.99

-79.99

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39.00

My bill is usually a bit over $50 a month for the two lines, though, after taxes and applying the work credit.

So yea, I think so.

They pay $79.99 since I switch off a corporate phone and use my own personal line for work. What they were paying for my work phone, they credit to me for my personal line.

So are you getting service on two phones on a family plan for less than ~85 bucks?

P.S. Add ~$10 for Insurance. Just checked my bill and forgot that part :P

You can change your plan on the internet. Not sure what you mean about warranty, I usually go into a store for stuff like that. If you have to call Assurion than T-Mobile customer care has nothing to do with it. Outages don't happen often enough for it to be a factor unless you use a Blackberry - in which case the issue is most likely RIM's infrastructure, and not T-Mobile themselves.

Buying on contract is still cheaper on T-Mobile if you know what you're doing than buying off contract, especially if you upgrade multiple times a year.

The only way it will become more expensive, is if T-Mobile raises their ETF fee to $300+ like AT&T and Verizon have done - and TBQH I have no doubts they eventually will. The "Order a New Phone and ETF it in 2 weeks" to get early upgrades at new contract prices whilst still being able to recover the cost by selling the old device and upgrade again when the old device was eligible is an obvious loop hole in the system.

That was probably a factor with Verizon and AT&T raising ETFs, and Verizon even got rid of Early Upgrades and "New Every Two," IIRC.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Read what I wrong before. You don't have to extend the contract, especially if you're on T-Mobile. All you need is patience and a brain, and you'll still get to upgrade at your normal time...
[Vibrant General] gatesmarch123:
Don't you have to pay for the phone if you do an etf?
[Vibrant General] nacron:
What about the doctors?
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Nope. Just the ETF fee, which is basically the price of the phone for a new contract. There wouldn't be a point in doing it that way if you had to pay for the phone + an ETF fee, ya know...
[Vibrant General] funeralthirst:
my average monthly bill for the roughly 4 years i've been off contract has been about $15-20/line for 2k min per line, unlimited text + data... so yeah, didn't think you were paying $7.50-10/line.

i hate going to stores, i'd rather call for a warranty replacement (which i've only had to do once). and i don't have insurance, it's a waste of money so i'll never call asurion. i also don't change my plan. but tmob did mess up once and charge me 350k (yes, thousand) for a phone once...

but this is really all besides the point... a new phone every 2 years is not a good time frame between phones, hence bestbuy trying to pick up revenue with their new trade in program. you can jump through tmob's promotion hoops, but i prefer to just pay for the phone and enjoy being off contract.
[Vibrant General] funeralthirst:
it depends, like the nexus one they would charge you the full price of the phone and the etf, but that's because it wasn't sold directly through tmob. some stores (not tmob stores, but authorized dealers) have their own contracts on top of tmob's contracts where they will charge you their own etf/cost of the phone as well.
[Vibrant General] Deggy:
This is how I get new phones on the regular:

I pay $140 a month (Even More Plus)

$140 x 24 months = $3360

$3360 + $500 (full price phone) = $3860

Before I paid $190 a month (on contract)

$190 x 24 months = $4560

$4560 + $200 (discount phone) = $4760

$4760 - $3860 = $900 savings -> almost 2 free phones
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LGS1231:
I've been having issues with the GPS. No satellite icon pops up when I have the GPS enabled. GPS Status would run but appears to not be able to lock onto any satellites.

Read into some fix in the CM7 RC1 thread about the gps.vision file. Tried pushing through ADB. Rebooted, didn't work. Downloaded Super Manager, deleted the file and put in the file once more. It did not work.

Now, I have the same problem as this user. I cannot even open GPS Status anymore. I tried what seems to be the only fix on the forum. How can I fix the GPS? This is an essential function!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vandam500:
My GPS also wasn't working on RC1. I fixed it by flashed the nightly that came out after RC1 (#1) and instantly fixed my problem. Heck when I tried the navigation in less than 5 seconds it already started to work :). This is the nightly I flashed btw, you can flash it right over the RC1 (I wiped cache and dalvik though) http://mirror.teamdouche.net/get/cm_vision_full-1.zip
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LGS1231:
Thanks I'll try it!

EDIT: IT WORKS! +1 to you!! I didn't wipe dalvik cause I forgot and that might've caused my Swype to act up. It kept force closing on me after I flashed the nightly. I had to uninstall Swype and then installed it again. Everything seems to work now!! THANKS A LOT!!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martonikaj:
I believe they fixed the GPS in build #41, which was right after RC1. They were trying out some experimental builds for the GPS that messed it up for many people in the late #30's and up to the RC1.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wintermute000:
I've been hesitant to try my hand at flashing ROMs because I'm in Australia using an AT&T variant N1, my carrier uses 850Mhz as the 3G frequency (Telstra) which is same as AT&T.

I've read up on the general flashing instructions for cyanogen and feel comfortable to proceed (I have basic linux knowledge as well), but only sticking point is I'm a bit unclear as to whether there is any difference for me, being the 850 variant.

My best guess is that its the same process, same files/build etc., just don't flash the radio? Is that correct? Can someone whose done it on AT&T variant confirm? THat would be really really good

I'm going to follow the instructions here, on a side note, is amon or clockwork the better option?

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Nexus_One:_Full_Update_Guide
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
There is absolutely no difference for you.

Radio frequencies aren't dependent on baseband (radio) build, they're a function of HW. You can flash everything, radios included.

Read the Wiki.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] codesplice:
Yep, go right ahead and do whatever you want.

I've hacked mine to hell and back with no issues :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MaximReapage:
ROMs, no, no difference. Basebands and radios are a bit of a different story, though...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
They aren't in Nexus, and they are exactly the same thing generally. Baseband = radio = SW that runs on baseband CPU.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wintermute000:
OK thanks all

do I NEED to flash the radio i.e. can I get away with not updating the radio component? Just super cautious as I don't want to be in the hunt for a replacement in case of bricking, with all the dual cores just round the corner as wlel
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MaximReapage:
Good to know, I'll keep that in mind.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
If your radio is 4.06 or above, you don't need to flash it. If not - you do.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChongoDroid:
I'm on an att n1 on rogers and I've flashed everything from roms to radios and never had a problem that a lil nandroid couldn't fix.

Sent from my Google Phone
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shreyas1122:
just don't flash the korean radio.. ;)

btw:

nandroid ROCKS! big time.

saved my hd2 twice :)

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
Korean radio is fine. 5.08 was present on all the current Nexus One replacement phones, and 5.12 is present on Vodafone ones.

Any specific reason why you're avoiding it?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shreyas1122:
oh no! really?

some one told me not to since it's korean..?

I mean why the 'korean' in it's name otherwise?

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
It's called the Korean one because it first came about in a KT OTA. It's fine to use on any N1.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
You don't have to worry at all about flashing radios. All the frequencies work with all radios. Note that you need at least 5.08 radio on cyanogen to be able to use the 720p video camera.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wintermute000:
Cool I better read up on nanddroid then!!!!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChongoDroid:
Thats the spirit, nandroid is the best diagnostic tool ever... The ability to fix virtually any problem without a pc is one of my number one reasons I love android :D

Sent from my Google Phone
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wintermute000:
2.3 out doh

Gah unfortunately now wiser to wait for stock 2.3 OTA then Cyanogen to stabilise.... though having said that at least now I've got the answer to my original question, thanks again all.

Might just get me over the hump until I can get a non bootloader locked, non motoblur polluted dual core droid.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChongoDroid:
Cm/ dev community are usually faster then the ota... Except for those who get it first :P

Sent from my Google Phone
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wintermute000:
True, i meant might as well see how OTA performs before taking the plunge, since my phone is currently stock standard
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] bonesy:
T-Mobile Theme Chooser Themes.

MDPI

CortiisTheme - THREAD HERE

HDPI

HoneyBread - THREAD HERE
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] bonesy:
Please post links to the threads for new themes, We can then use this as a reference for the future, keeping them all in one place to save all the searching
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] treesurf:
There are several available on the Market as well, just search for CM7.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Calico5:
Treesurf, those are just themed icons etc aren't they? I don't think they effort three framework and systemui.

This is a good ideas for a thread, will add a couple themes when I get back on my pc!

Sent from my HTC Hero
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] shen910226:
o ,it‘s really good~~~~thank you very much~~~~~~
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Habarug:
Sorry, am on my phone and therefore I bit of work to post links, but I've got two great themes:

Orion in the hero cmda forum and rover themes in the general section ;-)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] geoworld_200:
Try rovers theme...its awesome!! http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=958497
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] madman_01:
thanks dude....
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] mar9118:
Thank you ..... :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Habarug:
As Bonesy isn't using an HTC Hero any more, the OP will probably will probably not be updated. But there isn't really a need for this thread. There are lots of themes over here and all themes which is MDPI will work :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] PherChe:
Hi, question, what is the different between MPDI and HDPI, i got a Xperia X8 with MiniCM7 (2.3.5 OS) and i can use the theme chooser, but im not sure what i have to search =)

thanks!
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] MrNied:
Hi..

I just started using CM7 ThemeChooser on my HTC Hero running Cronos Ginger

and I really love the white themes from UpwardSpiral..

But I found that after applying the theme my launcher (Go Launcher Ex) got really slow and stuttering..

Has anybody else noticed something similar??

Thanks in advance
[A7 General] Sintrix:
Ok so Ive been looking in to building a Android tablet in to my car to use as a head unit.

Ive been looking around at different tablets and the A7 definitely looks the best for my budget.

Basically im running amps in my car so i need an audio signal from the unit.

I DONT want to simply run the 3.5mm headphone jack cable to the amps cause it will sound shocking.

I was just wondering if there are other ways of doing it.

I was looking in to something like sending the audio out the usb but i dont think they can do that.

But what interested me was using the HDMI audio out and using a DAC (digital audio converter i think) and converting the signal to analogue.

Does anyone know if this is possible at all or if there are better ways of doing it?

Ive been spending hours trying to find out a way of doing this!
[A7 General] MagentaJoe:
There are converters available to go from HDMI to standard RCA outputs.
[A7 General] alexanderlll:
You could run the 3.5mm output through a preamp - the sound quality is pretty good, especially with good filtering, although a preamp with HDMI or SPDIF input would be better (you'll also need a HDMI-SPDIF adapter for the latter)...
[Nexus S General] seuyx:
It seems that the screen is SLCD, not SA...

See the pictures below.
[Nexus S General] zephiK:
Its running a older version of the kernel.it's easy to spoof the android version
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
This. Just edit the build.prop file in any text editor and your phone could say its kernel version is chuck norrises semen and android version is his beard.

Sent from my MattedBlues CM7 Google Nexus S!
[Nexus S General] zephiK:
yea i just found it weird the SS said 2.6.35.7

and my kernel is 2.6.35.11 using netarchy, its pretty obvious its using stock 2.3.2 kernel
[Nexus S General] Rusty!:
It says 'test keys' & 'user debug' in the build string, it's pre-release software. No reason to doubt it just because it's kernel isn't bang up to date.
[Nexus S General] netarchy:
Technically 2.6.35.7 is up to date with the official nexus s kernel, my builds have a newer base because i updated it manually, among many other changes.

It's not so hard to believe that the screens could be from a test build.
[Nexus S General] ghost010:
this might be a early pre build.

but wont be looking like 2.4

the google developers told that 2.4 wouldnt be looking like 2.3 at all and would be totally different :3

prob some looks revering to 3.0
[Nexus S General] Rusty!:
2.4 isn't going to look any different from 2.3, it it still Gingerbread.
[Nexus S General] hutzdani:
what dude can't you read the post above. . . . just because its still gingerbread does not mean the GUI will look the same.

thats like saying its still windows so it will still look like old windows but be newer.

And besides here is 2.4 GUI running on tablet

so yeah its going to look like 2.2 with some tweeks towards HC

2.4 settings menu on Xperia ARC

video of 2.4 here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8R11CNm9kI&feature=player_embedded
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
HTC skins their phones and so does Sony. You're wrong.

Sent from my MattedBlues CM7 Google Nexus S!
[Nexus S General] Rusty!:
No it's not. Not even close, what a crap analogy.

You do realise Gingerbread isn't the name of the OS, it's Android.

Android Gingerbread will look like Android Gingerbread whether it's 2.3.x or 2.4.x

Windows Vista will look like Windows Vista whether it's SP1 or SP2

Also what the other guy said, you've shown 2 pictures of skinned Android. Good effort.
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
That is Froyo.

That is Froyo next to HTC Sense.

That is Sony's skin

Oh gosh... none of them look like stock Android!
[Nexus S General] zephiK:
Xperia arc using 2.4 is a error. This just proves how easy it is to edit android version.
[Nexus S General] Rusty!:
To be fair, that statement means nothing. Companies will deny anything that leaks out.
[Nexus S General] zephiK:
Stop trying so hard to defend yourself. The picture wasn't leaked.

sigh, people these days always trying to play devils advocate
[Nexus S General] Rusty!:
No the picture itself wasn't, but the content could be classed as such.

I'm pretty cynical, it comes from being a football fan in the UK, any club news, true or false, tends to be denied off the bat.
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
What content? The content of the picture? The picture proves that in the build prop of some phone it says 2.4. Actually, it doesn't even prove that because anyone with any ability in photoshop could edit a picture to make it look like a phone was running something. What it proves is that there are phones. Yay. Until there is evidence that can be checked and substantiated this thread is irrelevant and should be closed.

EDIT: Even if the phones are running 2.4 it shows its a development build and there is a great chance the phone is tester. We had a similar issue on the Epic; for some reason someone got a developer's version of the Epic (earlier hardware version; .4 instead of .5 like everyone else) and as a result got a test build of froyo called DK28. As far as I know its still what most ROMs are based on but they still don't officially have froyo yet.
[Nexus S General] zephiK:
Official Froyo for Epic 4G? It's coming out this week. Starting today
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
Today actually, just checked. Its available for download from Samsung as of about an hour ago. I knew it was coming out but the point is still pertinent.
[Nexus S General] zephiK:
I don't get where you would come in and clarify on what i said? you just quoted what i said and said it again?

It's a OTA so it'll be rolled out in stages. Not everybody follows Android websites, it's supposed to reach everybody in four days. For people who follow Android websites, they can manually push the update.
[Atrix 4G General] Joelpatrick:
This is probably a dumb question but what does it mean in the root instructions when it says do not mount the Sd card? I was planning on rooting tomorrow when I get the phone but I won't have an Sd card right away anyways. Do I need one?
[Atrix 4G General] G-Man.:
Just follow the instructions here:

http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root