yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jggimi:
Step 1: Do some reading, both of the RC1 thread and the Nightlies thread, and the CM7 FAQ. There are people who are having problems, there are people for whom things are perfect, and there are people for whom things are usable.

Step 2: Be sure to use the CORRECT version of ClockworkMod Recovery. With the exception of the specially-created 3.0.0.6 version that supports both Froyo and Gingerbread filesystems, you MUST use 2.x for Froyo based ROMs, and 3.x for Gingerbread based ROMs. This includes backup/restore as well as flashing.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2Noob4U:
I would suggest watching a video tutorial a few times if you have never rooted a phone before. If you are comfortable installing an OS on a computer then you probably won't have any trouble rooting.

You can always go back to stock if you like. Make sure you follow all the steps for the root procedure. I'm pretty sure grankin posted up the unroot procedure with the root procedure. One of the steps is saving a backup of your original phone settings. Keep that in a safe place.

I'm pretty sure CM7 isn't stable yet, but most everything works for that ROM. Wifi Calling and almost everything else. As always read the updates to see what the developer has fixed (or is working on) If you don't like a ROM you can always find another. That's pretty much the beauty of the whole thing.

Hope this helps
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ravneetg:
Thanks guys. I will go ahead and refresh myself with all the guides and tutorials in here...Last time I was doing this was 5-6 years ago with the HTC MDA Win Phones ;)

Thanks!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allyn274:
Seems like we're in a similar boat with root....

This site rules. I learn so much here and yet there's a ton of info so just to be clear....

I have a myTouch 4G. Is it worth rooting

JUST

to remove some of the stock apps (Amazon MP3, etc.)? Is there any benefit to be gained from doing that if I have no other reason that I want to root right now?

Thanks in advance.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neidlinger:
up to you.

personally i will never use a "stock/unrooted" android.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allyn274:
Okay. I understand. But I'm still pretty new at this and so far all I want to do is remove the "bloatware." Does it make a noticeable difference in the way the phone runs if I go through rooting to do that?

Thanks!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neidlinger:
Just rooting the phone will offer no performance changes. The only thing Rooting does is give you [the user] Super User access.

With that you can do massive performance upgrade with s=off. but nothing Rooting Only will do.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allyn274:
So are you saying there's something more than rooting that I need to do in order to have the ability to delete the preloaded programs that I don't use?

Thanks!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sunsean:
I haven't rooted my MT4G yet, but I had a rooted and modded MT3G for a long time. I would read A LOT through the guides and threads involving rooting your device, because it seems like you don't know too much about it. But in short - rooting alone does nothing but give you super user access to the phone, which in non-nerd talk means you can control things about the phone that you couldn't do before rooting. If you then want to remove bloatware (as well as do anything else like flashing roms etc), it will require further steps. Again, READ READ READ (and WATCH WATCH WATCH videos).
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allyn274:
I totally understand there is more required than just the rooting. And I really really appreciate your post. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is just if there is a benefit to removing bloatware? Maybe it's not really a "to root or not to root" question so much as a "will removing bloatware improve my phone at all" question? If there's a better place to ask, please point me in the right direction?

Thanks again for all the help.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jggimi:
There is no performance benefit to removing bloatware if the application is not used. It just consumes space on the internal SD device.

Rooting and then disabling those apps merely ensures they won't be run.

HTC Glacier CM7 #2
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allyn274:
Thank you! I really appreciate it. I think that's the answer I was looking for.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2Noob4U:
Titanium backup is a paid app that can remove apps after root (Monopoly, Asphalt 5, etc) Most ROM's you install after root have these apps removed.

Also it's pretty nice to underclock the phone to give you some great battery life. Really nice to set a profile when the screen is off that it slows the clock speed.

I like the videos here

I don't think he uses the new gfree method of rooting though in his video...

grankin posted a video with the root procedure on his post I'd look there.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allyn274:
This is extremely helpful. I have lots and lots of research and learning ahead of me, but this at least gets me in the right direction. There's a lot to sort through.

Just one thing: @2Noob4U - what is the "gfree method of rooting"? I thought you could achieve root with VISIONary?

You rock. Thanks again.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jggimi:
TB does not remove system applications. It "Freezes" them. This marks them disabled in the Android package manager so they cannot be executed, and wont' be seen by the launcher / app drawer.

I mentioned disabling bloatware earlier in this thread. You can use TB to "Freeze" and "Thaw", or you can use the "pm disable" or "pm enable" commands from a terminal emulator.

Disabling a system application is significantly easier than removing it. Plus, removing it may break a dependent application. Yeah, removing Monopoly and Stock won't break anything, but you may decide some tool in the app drawer is unused -- but it is actually used by another app unbeknownst to you. Disabling is safer. Removing requires mounting /system in read/write mode, which is cumbersome to do manually with a mount command, but can be done from adb or Root Explorer.

TB's Freeze/Thaw is available in its Pro version.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allyn274:
I read back through the thread and I'm not 100% sure I found the reference to bloatware, but this is incredibly helpful.

To make sure I'm understanding correctly, I could:

- Root my phone using VISIONary

- Get TB Pro

- Freeze (or Thaw to reverse) any unwanted apps

Would this improve performance/storage in any way or simply remove those unwanted apps from the drawer?

thanks again - as always.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neidlinger:
Removing or disabling will offer little performance upgrade. Androids work much like a computer does. Just because the Application is setting on the phone doesn't mean that it is using any resources other than memory. The only thing you will gain by removing or disabling those application is the memory that they are using.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allyn274:
2 things:

1 - do I have the steps correct?

and

2 - if I gain that memory, is it usable by other apps I would install?

Thank you!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neidlinger:
1- yes

Download and install VISIONary.apk

Temp Root with VISIONary

Download Ti/Backup

Freeze or delete any unwanted application

and yes other applications will be able to use that space. IF you delete them. If you freeze the no. They are still in the memory the CPU will just not pick them up.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allyn274:
I definitely feel like I'm getting closer! If I just temp root, though, when I pull out the battery or something won't everything come back?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neidlinger:
Application wise i cannot answer you. I do not honestly know.

I know if you do anything with the system it will restore, but i'm not sure about applications. If it is set to "root on boot" and you freeze applications i'm sure it will hide the automatically.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jggimi:
Here you go. I wrote:

You replied:

Recently you asked once more

Both neidlinger and I told you that these applications only consume storage space. Specifically, storage on the internal flash memory "drive" that you can't remove.

To help your understanding... These are hand held computers that happen to be able to make phone calls. Like a desktop computer, there is a central processing unit (CPU), some volatile, random access memory (RAM), and storage devices. The internal flash drive is one storage device. The "removable" SD card is a second storage device, but one you can hold in your hands, and stick in another phone, or a camera, or into another computer with the right adapter.

What's stored on this internal "drive" you can't remove?

* The Android Operating System (/boot, /system)

* A system Bootloader

* A stand alone recovery program (ClockworkMod Recovery in this case)

* Most if not all of your applications and application data (/data)

* Temporary storage for the Operating System (/cache)

* Temporary storage for Java applications (Dalvik Cache, stored within /data)

What's on the removable SD card?

* Some applications, sometimes (you can choose to install apps to your SD card, or not)

* Select application data, used by some applications (no matter where the app is installed)

* Stuff T-Mobile or HTC thought you might want, some useful, some not so much

* Anything you stored there

Is any of this clearer now?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allyn274:
I'm a jerk. I'm sorry. :o Thanks for being patient with me. I promise I'm getting there.

I guess what I'm trying to figure out in part is, if I were to free up the space that the pre-installed apps take up, can other apps use that space instead, or does anything that a user installs from the Market, etc. utilize another area of the disk drive (NOT the SD card - I understand that just fine). It's the internal disk I suppose I'm still struggling with.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jggimi:
Excellent question!! Truly an excellent question!

System Apps (and all built-in applications, bloatware or useful, are System Apps) are installed in /system, not in /data, where your Market applications and all application data -- both user and system -- live. Except for the application-unique data stored on your SD card, on purpose.

/system and /data are separate partitions, and are each of a fixed size. All you'd gain by physical deletion of apps from /system is some additional free space in /system, a partition which is normally un-viewable, un-writeable, and un-touchable by we users. The freespace in /system is effectively unusable....

....But it is not wasted space. The ROM lives in that partition. When you flash a new ROM, you will write all but the kernel into /system, and the amount of free space will change, up or down.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allyn274:
PERFECT. So now I know for sure that if I keep reading/watching videos/asking good questions (:D) I'll be able to decide if I want to root or not more for things like flashing ROMs, etc. It's never really going to be about getting rid of "unwanted" apps unless I really just HATE seeing the icons (or whatever).

So, back to what I asked neidlinger before... If I do want to stop seeing a certain icon - for whatever reason - and I go through the VISIONary root process, do a TEMP ROOT, then use TB to freeze an app, if I have to battery pull the phone for whatever reason, or something else, will the apps that I froze just reappear? I thought there was some disadvantage to temp root?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jggimi:
The disablement will be permanent. The root powers permitting it are what would be temporary. (I believe. I've not bothered.)

With temp root, the power lasts until reboot. But with Visionary, you can restore temp root at start up automatically.

The only disadvantage is not being able to install ROMs.

There is an advantage...no need to unroot if you were sending in your phone for service.

HTC Glacier CM7 #2
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allyn274:
This is helpful - giving me more information about temp/perm rooting.

When you're using VISIONary, I won't need to unlock the bootloader or anything that will wipe everything off of my phone, either, right?

Thanks again, as always!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neidlinger:
No visionary is just a Rooting tool. It will not mess with the recovery image, the HBoot or anything like that.

it just roots the phone until you turn the phone off.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allyn274:
Well, with a little more reading, this sounds good to me! I think I'll do some more investigating this weekend and maybe if I get brave, try it out!

This forum is truly the best.

Thanks so much.
[Captivate Android Development] oriveradel:
I have been testing several ROMS for AT&T Captivate and Rogers I896 and have download countless version of kies, finally I found one version that works, regardless of the rom, I am running froyo and TWLauncher.

That version is Kies 1.5.3.10075_17, Don't update as soon as you do it will no longer works, I did n't have to do anything to the phone settings, I have external sd card, the only thing to accept will be to download the decoder pack, videos, phone book, message viewer everything works, of course the firmware update will not work if you have a custom ROM. I did n't test with Stock rom. Download link will come soon, currently uploading. ENJOY!

**IMPORTANT** EVERYTIME you uninstall any version of kies run the kies uninstall tool, it removes all regystries left behind by kies. Download here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/4rmq8t

Download: http://turbobit.net/i8v2c4oixldz.html

MY UPLOAD FASTER Download here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ufip4f

As discussed on this tread there is another older version that works fine for others: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=831938&page=3

Download:

http;//org.downloadcenter.samsung.com/downloadfile/ContentsFile.aspx?CDSite=DE&CttFileID=3203268&CDCt tType=SW&ModelType=N&ModelName=GT-S5250&VPath=SW/201009/20100914110209343/Kies_1.5.3.10092_2_1.exe
[Captivate Android Development] bdpyo:
Is there a Mac version?
[Captivate Android Development] krips2003:
Can you share the download link for the kies as well. :-)
[Captivate Android Development] oriveradel:
sorry

I have not seen any versions for Mac..
[Captivate Android Development] bdpyo:
Fml, someone really dropped the ball

Sent from my Craptivate.
[Captivate Android Development] oriveradel:
Kies Air

oh well after all that trouble, turns out that Kies Air from Samsung apps works flawlessly, so I am sticking to that from now on!

Kies Air does n't require software on the computer, you just install the application on your phone... from the computer browser type the address provided by the app and there you have it, of course it works on your wi-fi network, simple awesome.1
[Captivate Android Development] bdpyo:
Could you explain a little more info please?
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] smalis:
When I watch video with bluetooth headphones, there is an audio delay from the bluetooth that puts the audio/video out of sync. On my old Palm Centro, TCPMP had a setting where you could adjust the audio offset, which came in handy for this.

Does anyone know of an Android video player app that has this feature? So far, I have not been able to find one.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ivor6:
I have Hero and he started to shut down all by itself.Also it doesn't work phone button,menu button,track ball also doesn't work when you push it.I have RCMIX 2.2 rom.I want to know if those problems can fix.Thanks
[Nook Color General] cpugurl:
Hi,

I'm new to the forum and I have been reading all of the exciting things that can be done with a rooted Nook Color. I want to root mine, but my SD card reader isn't being read and I really don't want to have to buy a new one just yet. Is there a way to root the Nook Color with only the USB cable and not having to use an SD card?
[Nook Color General] claytorj:
Why don't you want to buy a new card reader? They cost like $10. If you want to root this device, you should really buy one sooner rather than later.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pamarakos:
Hello!

I'm from Greece and I've come up with the following situation with my I9000 running stock 2.2 XWJPH!!

I've had lagfix installed and three days ago I wanted to take a full backup with my Kies!! So I had to unlagfix! Worked fine and went through Kies etc

After all this I came back to my OCLF but every option to install again OneCLickLagFix was Unavailable and was saying something about the playlogo and playlogos1 files!

Anyways somehow I managed to work it out by renaming these two files!!(After this I've found out that I should have checked Restore boot animation " first!!)

After the install of Lagfix it rebooted with a blank black screen doing nothing!!!!Today I had in my hands a USB jig so I got into Download mode and using Odin flashed two or three froyo ROMs (stock for the time, either with one PDA file or with the three files together with the .pit file) and one tweaked 2.2.1 but the best result was getting the following into the Samsung recovery menu:

update media please wait

E:Can't mount /dev/block/stl10

(Invalid argument)

E:copy_dbdata_media:Can't mount DBDATA:

your storage not prepared yet, please use UI menu for format and reboot actions.

copy default media content failed.

I tried wipe data/factory reset και wipe cache partition but situation is the same....only the format internal sd-card will save me?

But this way I'm going to lose my backup of titanium, right; Is there some way to get my Titanium backup folder from the internal_sd? Or maybe it's not in the internal_sd so everything is ok?

Adb also works somehow (I think), when I leave the phone to boot into normal mode without getting into the recovery menu (this happens just after flash only for once) and leave it till it gets to the coloured "S"!!

How can I give it a complete flash so as to recreate those folders that it is asking for?

Every way of help appreciated!

Thanks!

Even Format of internal sd didn't change anything!!Just tried it!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pamarakos:
After so many tries finally 2.2.1 warked....shall I leave it there? In fact isn't it a little bit faster than stock 2.2?

Thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snapper.fishes:
Well, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pamarakos:
I've lost the H/G icon from the bar at the top next to the signal, so I don't have HSDPA or GPRS internet through my carrier!!

Can you help?

Thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Go to Rom Kitchen build a rom with the CSC for your country/network .

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=817703

jje
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Proz0r:
Don't ask me why, but I need your help in finding a vanilla 1.5 ROM that has everything working. I've been searching for a while now and wasn't able to find anything. Can you please help me?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pulser_g2:
You might have trouble finding a "fully" working one, as all before about June had an issue with the touchscreen being laggy, using a lot of CPU.

IIRC that was the issue with AOSP for a fair while, but I know ninpo fixed it a while ago on Froyo via a kernel tweak (porting touchscreen filtering in).

That's just what I remember of AOSP vanilla on 1.5, but let me know if you find anything, as it's always good to know these things :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Proz0r:
Thanks, guys, found these here:

Aychteesee's vanilla Cupcake ROM:

http://goo.gl/j3H2u

Only bugs are the non-working trackball and Bluetooth

ION Donut ROM:

http://goo.gl/VHaEi

Not working:

• Bluetooth

• GPS

• Camera

• Accelerometer (being worked on)

• Trackball (being worked on)

• Headphone output fixed using Toggle headset 2

I found these and they were OK for what I was doing, and that was trying to get Debian run on my device :D Somehow managed to get LXDE working, although it's still all a bit laggy and pretty unusable. I shall write how I did it because it is requested in one thread where I too have requested the guide. In the end, actually, I didn't even need a Cupcake or a Donut ROM. It did, however, make it easier to do this simply because they were faster and not bloated unlike the Sense ROM I was using, so thanks guys! :D
[Hero CDMA General] smokeweed:
is it possible to remove the data gov from htc hero cdma? i have a rooted hero running aospCmod latest release 2/18/11

btw the rom is flawless other than the built in wifi tether and is quick as ****.

just wondering about the data cap. a friend just removed the cap on a samsung epic and it made curious if it was possible for the hero. not to worried as im recieving an aria in march due to alltel being bought by AT&T but interested

none-the-less.

thanks in advance for the info

-willy
[Hero CDMA General] oohaylima:
We got a cap on our phones? Didn't know they can throttle us like that. Maybe that's why I got slow speeds all of a sudden.
[Hero CDMA General] riggs32:
This is the first I've heard of a data cap as well, care to elaborate?
[Hero CDMA General] Freeroot:
well.. I wasn't aware of a cap.. people have used apps like set cpu to overclock their devices, like me, I know that with the current build of aosp there is a thing that allocates a certain amount of RAM to your sc card, but I'd wait til they perfect it as people have been having problems with it, but if you wish to try, make sure you have about a class 6 sd card, sounds like you wouldn't want a slower card than that. I've also read about the compcache RAM usage setting in the performance settings in cmod settings, but am reluctant to use it as there wasn't much information and I'm a relatively cautious person when it comes to this stuff.
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Your post had absolutely nothing to do with what the op was talking about.

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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Gingerbread-on-Hero action here!
[Hero CDMA General] wfetter:
Tweaked Build.prop

Take a look in the hero dev forum. There's a tweaked build.prop that boosts d/l speeds.
[Hero CDMA General] Freeroot:
Okay, I'm sorry, I was simply trying to help.
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Yeah, I know. :D He's talking data speeds, which has nothing to do with processor speeds.

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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Gingerbread-on-Hero action here!
[Hero CDMA General] shiozaki:
The link please?
[Hero CDMA General] oohaylima:
It's in the dev section. You can't miss it. It'll say Build prop.
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] alvinleephd:
So, I really wanna use Launcher Pro, but when I use it, I can't use the HTC music player widget and HTC settings widgets (like the 4G switch).

Is there any way to get around this?
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] tstack77:
Not possible.

There is no widget that mimicks the htc music widget, but I've found that doubletwist is a better music app and it has it's own widget. For settings, check out widgetsoid 2.0 for a much better settings widget. You can even set up a notification bar widget that's similiar to the epic.

Both are free.
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] cafecivet:
You can request that Fede (the developer) add this. He's created many great widgets already which are similar to the HTC ones.
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] Freeroot:
+1

Widgetsoid 2.0 is insanely customizable.
[EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps] SirRipo:
Launcher Pro Plus includes a number of Sense-like widgets (the only one I really cared about was Twitter). I also used Beautiful Widgets for the home widgets (time/date). As for the switching, I paid for Power Control Plus, because it lets you add a toggle for USB Tethering (which I had on my Hero - I think I might just hold of on rooting until there is a ROM that supports it). But it also includes a flashlight button (which I believe supports multiple brightness levels), and a few others handy things as well.