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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KevAmiga:
Hi guys.

Does anyone know the voltage tolerance for the USB socket on the desire?

Whats the minimum / maximum it will take?

Does anyone know if it will charge with 4.5V, and 6V coming into the USB socket?

Does it have an over-voltage protection? Sorry for all the questions.. lol
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Meaple:
As far as I can tell it can take 5V. I would stay safe really and stick with that being the maximum.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KevAmiga:
+5V is standard USB anyway.. im guessing 5.5V wont be a problem but im wondering about 6... hmm :p
[EVO 4G General] nol3n:
So I upgraded my Pre for the EVO when it came out and have been using the same phone and battery since getting it. I found XDA and immediately started rooting and flashing. I started with Fresh and DC when those were about the only options. I use my phone fairly heavily as I am almost always listening to downloaded radio shows either thru a plugged in headset or a jawbone icon BT set. I would say that I averaged about 8 hours of battery life no matter what ROM and kernel combo I tried. This is everything from Fresh, DC, Virus, Warm, CM6, EViO, Evo-NonSense, MIUI, and all of the applicable kernels. The best I had gotten with all of the various combos was a little over 16 hours (with an SBC kernel), which I thought was AWESOME! Needless to say, I used Warm TwoPointTwo (including betas) for a while and touted its look, feel, performance, ease of use, and feature set alongside an SBC kernel.

I ALWAYS keep an eye on the development section for something to pique my interest and pull me away from my current setup. After trolling Lucid's thread for cm7 for a while, I took the dive when the official cm7 nightlies started rolling out. I have been with cm7 ever since. I also took advantage of savage and zendroid kernels and now savaged zen.

The longest I have gone so far is 2 days 10 hours! How? Well...conservative governor on an SBC savaged zen kernel and toggling mobile data off when not in use. Will that same setup work for you? Maybe. Unfortunately all EVO' s are not created equal.

Moral of the story? It takes alot of time, reading, and work to find the thing that works for your EVO. It was a pain to find the right combo, but it is worth all the work.
[EVO 4G General] lehalter:
Thanks for your post. When you got the battery to last over 2 days, it looks like the phone mostly sat there, am I seeing that incorrectly?

I, like you, have tried all different things with the Evo trying to get battery and performance. I am locked on MIUI right now, it gives me the best of both worlds. If you want to try a Sense rom, try Ava's stuff. When I get "bored" with MIUI I will go back to Ava.
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
God will kill a kitten if you switch from MIUI. You don't want that on your conscience now, do you?
[EVO 4G General] shoobshoober:
Yeah it really depends on your usage without it the 2 days 10 hours don't mean much. 2 days is no problem if I only use it to make a couple of calls. every 8 hours it only loses 4% charge when untouched with autosync on. The evo battery isn't bad it just takes tweaking like the op says
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
I get on average two complete days on a charge. With heavy usage I het like a day and a half, with light usage I can go 3 days. MIUI 1.1.28 w/ savage 1.6 kernel. I used to shut off my data too when I wasn't using it but with the MIUI build I'm on, I don't need to.
[EVO 4G General] Drewmungus:
I really don't trust the battery use(in settings) in CM7 at ALL. I had my phone plugged into my car charger for 45mins on the way home tonight I unplugged it at 7:38pm.

It is now two hours later(10pm) it is showing I have been unplugged for10h55m9s on the posted screenshot. Then if you look at the other screenshot my battery indicator pro is showing the correct amount of time since unplugged.
[EVO 4G General] vudu:
I've noticed that the battery stats in cm7 do not reset unless you fully charge your phone. Otherwise it continues the count even if you plug a charger in.
[EVO 4G General] taadow1030:
MetalHead, do you overclock/undervolt? If so, would you mind sharing your settings? Lastly, have you noticed an increase in browser speeds since you flashed MIUI and tweaked your settings?
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
I know I need to come up with something. my battery drain is friggin' horrid.

Unplug @ 100%, turn the screen on, let it sit with nothing, pretty much, running in the background and in 10 minutes will be down to about 93%....

Tried several different combos, but all are pretty much the same results...
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
I overclock at 1152 with smartass governor 98% of the time. Savage 1.6 is a HAVS kernel so I guess technically it is undervolted. I honestly couldn't tell you about the browser speeds, I've been on MIUI since the beginning of November so I really have no clue what the browser speed on a Sense ROM is. Everything is a lot faster with MIUI so I'm assuming my browser speeds have also increased.
[EVO 4G General] massivebasset:
This is typical, unless you use an SBC kernel, bump charge your phone, or unplug it exactly when the light turns green.

Any non-SBC kernel will not keep the phone at 100% charge while on the charger. Some will argue that doing so is dangerous for the battery or methods like bump charging put too much wear on the battery.

This is most likely the reason that phone companies rarely have a true percentage shown on their batteries, because they all do this. If we didnt mod to get that real number shown, you would think your phone was acting just fine.

Personally, if I am really going to be using my phone a ton in one day, Ill bump charge it, but otherwise I just accept that its going to drop that first 10% really fast.

The best measure imo of battery performance is how much % you lose when the battery is somewhat discharged, and off. Every phone will drain while you use it, but most of the hours of a day, your phone is off and idle. If you lose 1% per hour, or 5% per hour, that will make a huge difference in your up time per charge.
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
Unfortunately, mine doesn't stop at that 10%. For instance, mine came off the charger at 5:30 AM at 100%.

By Noon, it was down to 70%, and I had 1 - 3 minute call, no texts and maybe 20 minutes of playing Klondike before work.

I guess I'm gonna have to go SBC. Worst that can happen is I end up buying a new battery, just incase it does so it in.
[EVO 4G General] massivebasset:
So in 10 minutes you drop 7%, and in the next 6 1/3 hours you drop another 23% with moderate use?

That sounds like pretty typical battery results to me, thats about 26 hours uptime with a fair amount of use. But maybe others could chime in.
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
Dude, 5 hands of a card game is NOT moderate use. It's practically no use. Klondike doesn't use data, GPS, etc... nothing, except minimal graphics.

The one phone call literally lasted less than 5 mins, so yes, a phone that drops 30% doing nothing is drastic.
[EVO 4G General] FLdub:
I seem to get pretty good battery life on Myns rom.

I can go at least 24 hours with moderate usage, all on the stock kernel.
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
Looks like I may have found a little better stability with the Netarchy-Toast CFS 4.3.2 Havs SBC less.

30 minutes of moderate use today and it only dropped 5%
[EVO 4G General] sup3rn0th1ng:
The best battery life I have gotten is from Feb 09 Plutonium.
[EVO 4G General] cbrewington75:
Miks 4.5 4.2 sbc, gps on updating all every hour call, text, surf, angry birds all freaking day, and get 14 to 16hours every day
[EVO 4G General] slickrick54:
MIUI

Wow i have been wanting to try MIUI for a while and i definitely will now.
[EVO 4G General] ECrispy:
I'm getting pretty bad battery life with MIUI 2.11 on hw 003. Can anyone recommend a good kernel? I'm hesitant to try the SBC kernels based on the potential battery damage, so savaged-zen is out, also savage-zen seems to have issues with usb mounting.

Is there a link to savage 1.6 CFS, which I've read in a number of threads now is a good one. Speed is not imp, stability, bt+usb working and battery life is.
[EVO 4G General] ECrispy:
Answering my own qn - I found the link here -

http://home.comcast.net/~evobenchers/downloads/Cyanpatible/Savage-Kernel-v1.6-CFS-HAVS-WiMAX.zip

I'm going to try this out and see if it helps.
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
Not using Miui, but withe Sense and CM7, my battery was terrible, until I switched to an SBC kernel. I know about the potential for damage, but a LOT of people are using them, and no problems. I keep mine on the charger all night, every night, so it's charging for way more than it needs.

I think using and SBC less kernel is the way to go.

Besides, new batteries aren't expensive. I'm thinking about grabbing 2 just to have.
[EVO 4G General] ECrispy:
I think its time to experiment with kernels, and I'll hold off on SBC till I get some spare batteries from ebay (even then they may not be as good as oem).

I think what I really miss is SuperUser which made a huge difference, but it doesn't run in MIUI :(
[G Tablet General] bijan588:
Okie Dokie, for w wile now all roms that I have tried have had problems.

Vegan - Market FC's

TnT -****, cant be bothered to use it

Zpad, feels too much like a phone + market FC

What should I try now?
[G Tablet General] Pazzu510:
Tnt lite is the less bugy one. You should try that one. XD

BTW: i think all roms are showing market fc right now. and it is not a casuality.
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
Just in case you did not know it was possible, Yahoo Messenger lets you video chat from pc to mobile devices. Just tested this out a little while ago and it works pretty decently.
[EVO 4G General] SilverStone641:
Nice! i'll have to give this a shot
[EVO 4G General] espektro:
I installed a week ago, really works great from my mobile to pc. I wish that msn or skype do somenthing like this.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xerox89:
my nexus one is currently using miui rom

when i try to update from 2.2.1 to 2.2.2 with original update file it shows instalation aborted .

How can i remove the miui rom and install the original rom .

As detail as posible thx
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danger-rat:
Go to the wiki, and read the guide for unroot/restore.

Alternatively, install the stock ROM available through ROM Manager, and ride the updates...
[A7 General] jpsvnh:
Is there a way to store files from programs on the SD card. I am using Co-Pilot GPS and when I install the program on my tablet (from the SD card) it tells me to download the maps. The maps are also on the SD card but Co_pilot can't see them. I had tried to download direct to the tablet but the file is too big for internal memory so I had to download only my state. This has happened with several Apps that I tried to load. Is there a way to redirect the data to the SD and have the program recognise it. Do I need Dexters download??

Thanks,

John
[A7 General] RojasTKD:
Sorry... I don't think anyone has figured out how to get app to work with the SD card yet. eLocity/Stream TV has not addressed the issue. I do believe Dexter is looking into it.

For now I have CoPilot running on my g -tablet, as I don't think it would fit onto my eLocity. You may be able to fit the US maps, but just barely (again just maybe, if the stars align just right). I believe it gives you the option to just download regions or states.

On a device with such little storage available this is a BIG deal!
[A7 General] nodozen:
Does Android have the ability to utilize regular Linux Links? If so, maybe you can install it minimally first with nothing else on the device and then move the directory to the SD card then link to it and add other maps. If that works it would free up local space and allow you to install other apps.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Insomaniac10:
I just would like to know a little bit about these ROMs. Correct me if I'm wrong but it looks as though there are 4 or 5 different ROMs with the "Einherjar" label on them in the DEV section. At first, quick glance it looks as though the only thing that seperates them is the themeing.

Can anyone who uses these ROMs explain to me what sets them apart from each other, and why you chose to go with them over Axura or Bionix?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s15274n:
Their team is large, different guys work on different projects. It's more than the theming, but there is only so much that can be changed from a user's perspective.

I LOVED the notification bar on Flagship (it changed colors depending on your app/background), and that rom was great... Been using Trigger for a little over a week and it's floored me... just amazing speed/stability.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Insomaniac10:
yah so far it looks like Trigger would be the one i would go with.....ill give it a run later on....i loooove axura, but it can be a themers nightmare when switching between ROMs, and i care about appearance ALMOST as much as i care about performance
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s15274n:
I'm a big big fan of Master and recommend it to many.... that said, Trigger is themed more to my liking and has been rock solid. Did you see the videos I put?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Insomaniac10:
no i havnt.....ill take your owrd for it. and i was actually hoping the YOU would be the one to post on this thread because i knew you were huge fans of both.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s15274n:
V2.0.1

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V2.1.1

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[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jellette:
The best way to explain why there are both similarities and big differences in the EDT releases is to explain how we work as a team.

EDT Devs all have a project of their own that is their main area of responsibility. The roms are developed from a stock base - there is an exception to this when it comes to MIUI and the AOSP roms. This Dev has the support of all the other devs when something needs done - this explains the similarities, if one dev does the same thing on multiple roms. There is also members like white and behr who have their on special abilities and contribute to all of the EDT roms.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jellette:
Duplicate post.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr.orange303:
They made 2.2.1 stock rom. That makes them the best. Period. If u have not tried it. U should.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jzun223:
+1 i been using it with DOW and its very fast
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr.orange303:
And stable. And surprisingly fast.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nabeel10:
I heard battery life is ACTUALLY normal, is that true? Or is It a bit drain?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nabeel10:
You do realize that its just 2.2.1 apps on a 2.2 ROM? The new Bionix Frost when it comes out is 100% 2.2.1, dev said himself...:-)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr.orange303:
Better than adverage.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr.orange303:
Its the name. Its as fast as the vibrant4g rom from eugene.

Ive also tried gb rom from supercurio.

But I use 2.2.1 stock so people can find it.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kubernetes:
Even with DoW?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nabeel10:
So your saying DoW that makes our phones faster and smoother has battery life BETTER than stock?!?!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jzun223:
Stand by battery life is great, as good as stock. When using the phone it drains a little bit faster, your overclocking by 400 so its expected. Overall i would say its as good as stock.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jellette:
That's a bit over-simplified. It is much more than just 2.2.1 apps on a 2.2 Rom. It does take more to doing that than just placing the apps in there. It requires re-mapping all the apps, replacing and including the necessary lib files, etc.

Please do not continue an arguement that has been settled now that EDT, TW and Devs4Android are no longer at each others throats.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nabeel10:
Oh okay thanks for correcting me, and im sorry if I was trying to start an argument. But yea
[Fascinate Android Development] burningembers:
Anyone know how I might get started or already have a way of modifying EB01 so that the soft key backlight is as short as it was when the Fascinate first released? (something like 2 seconds).

Personally, I dislike those keys being backlit at all and would really just like to turn it off completely - but I'd be satisfied with 2 seconds.
[Fascinate Android Development] Terror_1:
Should probably have posted this in the general section.
[Fascinate Android Development] renf:
It's a request for a specific mod and I believe those belong here.

I'd like to second this request. The lit keys are distracting and I don't even look at them when I use them.
[Fascinate Android Development] Terror_1:
While I would like to see a mod for BLN it is my understanding that this is a development forum and doesn't carry the "request" moniker.
[Fascinate Android Development] s44:
I PMed wasupwithuman to see what he edited in services.jar to do his backlight-lengthening hack on DI01, but he hasn't responded. This may be because he's switched phones...

Anyway, the answer is definitely in services.jar. You can decompile that with baksmali... Perhaps compare the code for modded and stock DI01.
[Fascinate Android Development] GizmoDroid:
I looked at it briefly, but it seems like no matter what values I set, the soft key backlight stays on until 5 seconds before the screen timeout.

I must have something conflicting with it.
[Nexus S Accessories] turbodroid:
First post here, be easy on me. I love this Nexus S, my first android phone, but man this battery issue has really bothered me. I would wake up in the morning, take my phone off the charger and immediately be at 96%. After 15 minutes of checking emails and surfing, I would be below 90% by the time I got to work an hour later. I was spending half the day charging my battery, so I decided to order 2 OEM batteries and a wall charger off Ebay.

Well little I did I know that this would solve two problems. First, the wall charger charges the batteries to 100% and provides significantly more life. For some reason the phone does not let the battery truly get to 100%. Second, when I get home from work or wherever, I can just pop in another battery and be fully charged again. Now I don't have to sit and worry about charging my battery all the dang time, and my batteries are lasting much longer to boot using the wall charger. I am not sure I can post links yet, so what I ordered was an M9P wall charger for like $10 and a couple extra OEM batteries for $10/per on Ebay. I ordered from US sellers so I didnt have to wait weeks also. You might be able to find cheaper if you order from a hong kong seller. Anyway, I hope this helps someone as frustrated as me.
[Nexus S Accessories] zephiK:
This has been posted MANY MANY times.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=882679

IMO. I rather have it sit at 95% than to have my phone catch on fire. Better safe than sorry.
[Nexus S Accessories] turbodroid:
I've been charging my mobile devices to 100% for years with no issues. I'm not too worried about it since I don't mod my phone. All I wanted to do was have a battery that lasts and I now have that. Thank you.
[Nexus S Accessories] shrivelfig:
Have you actually measured this, or is it just a "gut feeling"?

There's an app medication for that ... :p
[Nexus S Accessories] slowz3r:
in the end charging via USB/PC gets a fuller charge because its more of a trickle, though it can be dangerous
[Nexus S Accessories] turbodroid:
The battery level reads a full 100% when I plug the fully charged battery in. I just changed battery again this morning.
[Nexus S Accessories] turbodroid:
From what I am seeing and how much longer my battery is lasting, I am getting a fuller charge and WAY longer battery life charging batteries in the wall charger. I had the same issue as many others with this phone. The battery wouldn't charge to 100% and general battery life is pretty poor. I thought my phone was bad so I exchanged it and the battery life was identical.

I recommend everyone who questions my results, if you have a spare $20 and are sick of the poor battery performance of this phone to get a wall charger and spare OEM battery off Ebay or wherever. Theories are nice and everyone has one but I'll take real world results over theories any day.
[Nexus S Accessories] twerk:
Battery life is actually pretty good on this phone. Try owning the evo. I never seen a phone with worst battery life.
[Nexus S Accessories] ClrDaLane:
Hey Turbodroid,

Can't find this wall charger of which you speak. If you can't post a link, please give more info on it so I can search for it. That and the batteries as well.

Thanks
[Nexus S Accessories] turbodroid:
I can't post links yet, but I sent you a PM. On Ebay, search for M9P Charger and the only result that comes up is the one you want. Then search for OEM Battery Nexus S and pick whatever one you want.

EDIT - Here are the links I used

Charger - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150546613705&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

OEM Battery - http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-OEM-GENUINE...199674?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item20b6d2767a
[Nexus S Accessories] shrivelfig:
"WAY longer battery life"? Really really? I'm having some trouble believing this. The standard battery is 1500mAh. Are the extra batteries the same capacity? Because we are talking about something around 4-6% more power here.

This is either confirmation bias or blatant advertising.

Edit:

Fun fact: These two listings are from different sellers, but both write "Samusng" instead of "Samsung". :p

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150546613705&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/M9P-Battery-Charger-Samusng-Google-Nexus-S-/180611094933
[Nexus S Accessories] turbodroid:
Obviously i'm not advertising, I am just posting my observations. My battery is lasting several hours longer than it did before under similar use. Right now I'm going on 6.5hrs of light use and I'm still at 81%. The OEM batteries I bought show the exact same part # as the one that came in the phone, but say 1440mah instead of 1500. I'm not observing any difference in how long they last compared to the original battery as today I am on the 1440 one.

I've been in the IT field for 18+ years. I know the difference between real results and 'confirmation bias'. These are real results I have experienced. You are more than welcome to share yours if you choose to spend $20 and duplicate what I did.
[Nexus S Accessories] shrivelfig:
I don't believe that unless your wonder-charger is literally cooking the batteries to death by some serious over-charging.

So, the original battery to 1500mAh, charged to 96% in the phone would give ... 1440mAh. And range anxiety.

But the extra batteries, charged to 100% in the wonder-charger would give ... 1440mAh. And a peaceful feeling.

Yeah, I don't really see the "WAY longer battery life" here. If those 4-6% extra charge gives "several hours longer" then a full charge would be good for a couple of days of use anyway. And yet you were "spending half the day charging your battery". There's something odd about your story. The numbers don't really add up.

I don't care if you're Isaac Newton. If you're starting to wave credentials and diplomas around, then this will be nothing more than a pissing contest. If that is what you want, then you win. Here, have an internet.

No thanks. I have that exact same charger, and an extra original battery. If that charger actually makes that much of a difference, I don't want to cook my spare battery to death with it.

But feel free to back your claims by some real numbers taken from, you know, objective tests. One battery charged in the phone, the other in the wonder-charger. Then do the exact same thing (play music or whatever) until the batteries hit 15% remaining. Then post the elapsed times here.