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[HD2 Android SD Development] PlayStation:
Touche Mr. Know-it-All. Actually the best long term solution is to switch off and remove the battery. Usage will go down to 0mA. ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] docent14:
Irony is not necessary here.

I tried all this trick - including battery of, flightmode in winmo and badcluster sd check. So far, it's as usefull as cold medicine for a zombie ....
[HD2 Android SD Development] happyfree:
How to upgrade to a new build

I finally succeeded in installing this new (great !!) build on my HTC.

After a lot of unsuccessful attemps of upgrading my old build (more than two months) by using Titanium Backup or my old data.img, I decided to start from a fresh SD and to install all my apps and settings manually (it took me a few hours...). The results is that now I have no more FCs and everything works fine!

My question is as follows: what will be now the best way to upgrade to a new build? I understood that the directory 'sd-ext' will be used to automatically install the apps (not the settings). But so far this directory only contains 3 apps (FM.apk, wifi_tether..apk and Copes_HTC...apk). Is there anything I did wrong?

Thanks for your help.
[HD2 Android SD Development] docent14:
Probably ... It should contain app data and dalvik-cache directories.
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
The sd-ext partition is populated when you shut down. If you shut down and then reboot you should see all your apps here.
[HD2 Android SD Development] docent14:
It is not true. Sd-ext is populated when you start your machine (05mountsd) and rsynced back when you're doing a shutdown.
[HD2 Android SD Development] happyfree:
I'm not sure to understand. I already shut down several times and nothing changed in the sd-ext directory (I mean I've got only 3 apps in app, the data and dalvik-cache directories).
[HD2 Android SD Development] 2b2b:
first of all thanx for Your offer to chat - cope - unfortunately the time-shift between us is not very friendly (Your evening is 3/morning here ,-) and I've no internet at home - only via tether - which is workin' only in winmo atm.

but: I've solved my issues with empty sd-ext !!!

I changed my folder "cope" to "Android", after digging a bit in Your start/shutdown scripts - and - tadaaaa - I got, which I was missing last weeks:

.) reboot after the first boot

.) fix_permissions, and remove of the script

.) populated /sd-ext

.) my /data is not "moved to heaven" anymore ;-)

I think, with the latest changes You hardcoded the folder "android" sometimes in Your shutdown-scripts ?

eg:

if [ -e /sdcard/android/fix_permissions.sh ];

then

/sdcard/android/fix_permissions.sh;

busybox rm -f /sdcard/android/fix_permissions.sh;

/system/bin/shutdown;

exit;

fi;

so a different folder will mess things up, because only half of rsyncs, cp,, are working?

when I've time, I'll look into disabling moving "/Android/data", because google-maps is storing it's cache & data there, and I don't like to download every day the same maps, and would also like to keep my settings.

THEN, will look into wifi - thanx for all hints (no, it's not a simple dns-issue) - maybe also a side-effect of the upper miss-config - for clarity: the rom-by-packed version "wifi_tether_v3_0-pre11.apk" is working for You?

maybe You update the first post/faq for "Use Android, not arbitrary folder", as I played the game of reformating 4 times-and with the original folder all is working now.

now, the rom again is "flushi" - as some versions before =:-)

greets ! 2b2b
[HD2 Android SD Development] Animefan:
Hello Hello!

The rom is great, and runs nicely :)

I was wondering, theres like.. many things I dont use in the programs.. car home, and others, is there any way to remove them? The whole or just the icon is fine.

Thanks in advance
[HD2 Android SD Development] nygmam:
Battery comparison

I figured it was best to compare AMA to WM6.5.x (The version in my sig) to see if battery consumption is the same.

Every morning I do the same thing, I leave my house, turn on my Bluetooth, walk to the subway (5 minutes), Once I get to the subway, I whip out my phone, launch a video and watch something (Video files, usually my TV Rips). train comes, takes about 20 minutes to get to my stop, leave teh subway, walk to work, take the elevator to my floor, get to my desk, and plug in my phone. Total trip time is about 25-30 minutes. Battery when I leave my house 100-99%. Battery when I plug in after getting to work, on both WM and AMA is the same either 88 or 89%. Therefore I have to believe actual consumption is the same when the device is in use, and there isn't any excess power drain, although processing video, and displaying it on screen while using BT is probably pretty battery intensive anyway, I figured I would post my findings....

I will also note, I have data drops, and signal losses in WM as well as AMA, so maybe some of the issues are with the way the hardware and software talk to each other at a more basic level, and not the fault of AMA.
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
Sorry for the confusion, but I thought sd-ext was read at startup and any missing apps from data.img restored and written to at shut down with newer data.img apps being backed up. Have I got this all wrong?

In either case, is the best advice for @happyFree to reformat the ext3 partition?
[HD2 Android SD Development] anap40:
I see some talk about high drain in this build, but it seems like everyone with the problem is booting with haret.exe from winmo. Docent also noticed the problem only after running winmo for a while. I am booting from magldr and don't have any drain problems. I'm not saying everyone should switch to magldr, but the problem is apparently related to winmo. Maybe try a hardreset of winmo and see if that helps anyone
[HD2 Android SD Development] lewrydiboys:
I have an issue: my gps is not working.I try to use navigation and other apps that need gps but it never works.Can someone help me,please?
[HD2 Android SD Development] nygmam:
Turn on GPS, reboot, and don't turn GPS off, this should fix your problem
[HD2 Android SD Development] lewrydiboys:
You mean: "location&security settings/use gps satellites" ? It's already on.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Animefan:
I found the program on market called Root Uninstaller and it made it possible to remove them in case any one else wants to! :D
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
Have you tried GPS Status? This will download the satellite info and you should be able to get the first fix within seconds rather than minutes.
[HD2 Android SD Development] lewrydiboys:
I'm gonna search and try it.Thank you.
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
It's full title is GPS Status & Toolbox - good luck!
[HD2 Android SD Development] PlayStation:
Thanks for this find....;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] lewrydiboys:
It works now. Thank you, guys.
[HD2 Android SD Development] deviljf:
That is not necessary with the 20 March built. You can switch your GPS off if you want to.
[HD2 Android SD Development] 2b2b:
bros !

switch on the cm-stats - we (leo-devices) have only 3 devices listed !!!!!!

;-) 2b2b
[HD2 Android SD Development] JustX:
Your use cases/scenario is almost exactly like mine. Down to the travel times and everything. I have the same experience as you do.

I think you might have hit on something really big here. I always change my android folder when installing this build and then change the entry in the startup text. But the reason why I do this is not really valid anymore. I did this so that i could test other SD versions of Android. But who am I fooling? I only lurk on this thread and have no plans on using another build.

In other news.... Ok people let me first start out by stating the FIRST RULE IN XDA: Search the forum/thread.

All those 1st grade excuses like, "this thread is too large for my itty bitty brain to read at once" is made moot due to the pretty big "search this thread" button. Secondly people dont get flamed for reporting a problem. They get flamed for posting YAPAQ's (Yet Another Previously Answered Question) They also might get flamed for asking questions in which the answers are found in the first post or FAQ. I have no pity for those. If I wanted to deal with users needing everything spoon-fed without the need to read or pay attention to the instructions, I would have gotten an iPhone and lurked on those forums.

This thread is over 300 posts long and about 100-200 of those posts are unneeded. They do nothing but fill up the thread so that people start to complain that the thread is too long to read. you guys/gals see a trend here?
[HD2 Android SD Development] docent14:
If sd-ext is empty (on a startup) it gets populated on startup

If there is any data change (change settings, new score, install uninstall) at shutdown there is second rsync (data>sd-ext/data)

So, it's just 2 way street: on startup, and on shutdown.

You were correct about process, small difference is that it takes place in 2 stages, not only one.
[HD2 Android SD Development] newcountry:
I've tried before, but don't work. Have you success to stop the data folder moved after delete the 01cleanup? Have you using fancy widget or beautiful widget and the downloaded skins still here after reboot?
[HD2 Android SD Development] happyfree:
Thank you for this information
[HD2 Android SD Development] happyfree:
MAGLDR

I need help!

I'm a bit confused: as I would like to boot from magldr, I followed the following link:

http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-install-hardspl-2-08-on-htc-hd2/ in order to install hardspl2.08 (I had version 1.42).

But once installation done, I checked the version with bootloader and I see on screen:

SPL-2.08.0000 8G XE

MicroP(LED) 0x05

MicroP(TOUCH) 0x50

It seems not to be what it is supposed to be like "CotullaHSPL". Is it normal? Can I now install MAGLDR? I don't want to brick my phone!!

Thanks in advance for your help
[HD2 Android SD Development] boxchevy:
Hi all, just adding in on current tone of thread. I am personally willing to help when I can but also not on the thread all the time. Just look at these stats to see where some get upset at repeated questions.

Search: Keyword(s): angry, birds

Showing results 1 to 25 of 74

Search took 0.14 seconds.

Search: Keyword(s): led

Showing results 1 to 25 of 143

Search took 0.50 seconds.

these searches were done right before i post this message. Yes I do know that the search does not work all the time as it has happened to me. I have never had a problem though accessing any of the FAQs on the first post ;) So much of the same repeated posts causes gifts like:

to get overlooked. Thank you very much for this. :) People are here to help but not baby others. Having a device and trying to change roms is no easy task so why try if you are not willing to read how to or even where people have reported issues. These days that is like buying a car without checking the Carfax. smh
[HD2 Android SD Development] docent14:
The same have to be made with 05mountsd file - with /system/etc/init.d/05mountsd.

It must be empty bash script or 0 size file.
[HD2 Android SD Development] xauzainhatvn:
Thanks alot for your works. It run very good in my HD2 T-MOUS.

Have some small things:

1. I need more icon ( rotation, data, brightness, 3G v.v.... ) in Taskbar like MIUI and JDMS rom.

2. I try to connect to WPA/WPA2 Secured WIFI, it connected ok but not work. :( It ok with the WPA only.

3. Some time the lockscreen is delayed.

4. And the keyboard, i selected Input Language but not work. :( Don't want to use the orthers keyboard.

5. Cannot connect to 3G/GPRS. I'm in Vietnamese, how to find 1 program automatic setting like WM6.5 Wizzard ?

HOpe it will be fixed in the next.

Thanks and best regards,
[HD2 Android SD Development] xauzainhatvn:
And Videos Codec.

Some movies in H264 cannot play or not better than 2.2 Froyo. :(. Hardware mode is not working.

It cost more RAM.

I use HTC HD2 TMOUS (>500Mb RAM ) run Android on SD Card, how can i incresing default RAM on Start Android ( and can be incresing 32Mb to 64Mb cache not damage ? ) by edit the Config file ?

Thanks !
[HD2 Android SD Development] docent14:
Then write and upload some code at cyanogen git hub

It works ok.

Then set it to not delayed.

elaborate

Google your country providers's info. It should be done by default.

Pray or participate. Do not 'hope'.
[HD2 Android SD Development] eelpout:
I'm not sure why the battery needs to be such an enigma. I for instance am back to having 60-70 mA usage in overnight standby for most of the night. But mysteriously, around 06:15 AM this morning, it dropped to around 6 mA according to Battery Monitor. No idea why. Need to examine the logs further.

I'm also having odd data issues now too, where it seems to switch to 2G from 3G mode (I have 3G -disabled-) on its own. Might be related. Maybe AT&T is already tweaking the T-Mobile towers. ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] docent14:
I don't know. It was all of the sudden - it just hops to 245 and stays that way.
[HD2 Android SD Development] newcountry:
Sorry, I don't understand what is empty bash script? Do you mean delete the file 05mountsd?
[HD2 Android SD Development] docent14:
empty bash script is a text file with characters:

#!/system/bin/sh

exit

zero file - it's a zero-size file :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] newcountry:
Sorry! My knowledge is very basic, do u mean open the file "05mountsd" with text editor and delete all words and only keep #!/system/bin/sh inside the file and then exit.
[HD2 Android SD Development] docent14:
If you're able to do so, just delete it from /system/etc/init.d

Another way is overwrite it with empy file put in sdcard:/Android/root/system/etc/init.d

Look at the FAQ
[HD2 Android SD Development] SkippyDogg:
Yes he means to delete the 05mountsd. And i tried it myself and PowerAmp finally works after reboot! Beautiful Widgets downloads skins are still there! Awesome!
[HD2 Android SD Development] docent14:
@Cope my friend, I think you should remove sdcard:android/data from integrating it with /data. Some apps just puts data there.
[HD2 Android SD Development] geenyous:
data relocation & battery

+1 as said before, my games do not work any more after every reboot (NFS shift and Worms), it has to DL data every time and all my progress is lost... :(

I deleted script 02 in the shutdown folder.

And I do not want to put oil in the fire, but my drainage is also not as stable as it used to be, fluctuates between 4-78mA without any specific reason...

Note that I did not change builds but am on the same build for a week now.

Anyhow, battery is still ok, just not perfect :D

BUT, I am confident that things regarding battery will better with the new kernel, unfortunately the same does not apply for the data moving issue...
[HD2 Android SD Development] JustX:
Oh yea I forget to mention, Warren has said multiple times that he is currently working on a new kernel behind the scenes. One of the improvements is battery life among other things. So it doesn't help when people keep demanding he make a new kernel to fix their data/battery problems when he is busy sacrificing his free time to work on one anyway.
[HD2 Android SD Development] docent14:
Most needed thing is to file a complete report. Sending only good vibes makes one think that everythink is just ok.

This signal from us is very straighforward - we appreciate your work, but there is somethink wrong. We do not demand fixes, press conferences etc :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] clarkg:
I've never gotten NFS Shift to work at all on any build since I moved from Froyostone to this Gingerbread. It starts off on the EA screen then exits without even an error. Can I ask how you managed it? Private message me with a clue or link if you could so we don't clutter the thread.

Cheers
[HD2 Android SD Development] see_u_then:
GPS Lock

I have been using CoPilot on WM 6.5 as well as Froyo builds. It works great and no GPS locking issues.

Now I installed the March 12th build and cannot get a consistent GPS lock i.e. it looses GPS signal every few seconds. If I boot to Windows and try GPS apps then everything works fine. Has anybody seen this issue? Is there a way to fix it?

Thanks
[HD2 Android SD Development] shamez23:
March 12? Why not use the March 20 build?

One of the builds, could well be the one you are using, had problems with gps. It worked fine after activation but once you turned it off you had to reboot to get it working again.

That bug has been fixed in the latest build.
[HD2 Android SD Development] see_u_then:
The change log didn't say anything about a GPS fix. I will download 20 Mar build and verify. Thanks
[HD2 Android SD Development] shamez23:
Yeah, they don't.

You would have to search the forum to find it.

Nevermind. Just try the latest build and if you still have the same problem check if this also happens using Google maps. If Google maps is OK, it might be that copilot has issues with Gingerbread. There are still some apps that haven't been ported.

Or something in this build conflicts with the app.
[HD2 Android SD Development] biosensorben:
I'm using the Mar20 build and am using copilot in both winmo 6.5 and this build and both work absolutely perfectly. Quick locks and no problems, so it is not a gingerbread issue. I do recall there were some gps problems around Mar12, so it is probably that. Update to the Mar20 build and everything should work fine.

If it doesn't try using gps status and toolbox from the market to track the problem.
[HD2 Android SD Development] happyfree:
I finally succeeded in installing magldr.

I have now another "serious" issue: each time I reboot, all my settings (widgets, desktop) have gone. Only my apps are still there... How can I get rid of this problem? I am a bit worried because I spent almost one day to install this new build.

Thank you in advance
[HD2 Android SD Development] imrazor:
I stepped away from the problem for a day and came back to it fresh. I found that I was using a build from 3/12 or thereabouts, so I downloaded the latest, reformatted my SD card and reinstalled. A bare install with only current widget installed is still drawing about 90-100ma in standby. Yesterday, "Battery Use" was reporting that "Android OS" was using 63% of the battery. Will check later today to see what is using the battery.

Anyone have any other suggestions for possible battery pigs? The only difference from yesterday is that a I *do* have wifi on at the moment, formatted my SD card, and installed the latest build.
[HD2 Android SD Development] SkippyDogg:
Hmm I would have to say to try another SD card maybe the one you're using is going bad and making Android read/write many times. That's the only possible reason now since I'm using the same build and android always says "Android OS 3%".
[HD2 Android SD Development] B@ndit:
How to turn off vibration when unlocking phone, i have haptic feedback turned off in settings and i don't have vibration on any other keys except when i unlock the phone on unlock screen? And regarding GPS, I edited the startup.txt file with correct info for my country, as it was suggested in FAQ file, and I it still needs a long time to get a lock in Maps, am I forgeting something or doing something wrong?
[HD2 Android SD Development] shamez23:
You get 60mA constantly or as peaks? Do you ever get below that level?

There are two more things you can try.

Another SD card like SkippyDogg suggested and another winmo ROM.

I still don't know how much influence the winmo ROM has, not even, if it has any impact at all. Since it's quite an act to change the ROM and get it back the way you like it and since it is your only fall back option, I would go with a new SD card first and try a new winmo ROM as a last resort, if at all.

There are other Android ROMs out there. AmeriCanDroid is really good but if it doesn't work for you, why not use something else? The way it is right now, it's pretty useless for you. So any drawbacks other ROMs might have can't be much worse. You can always check back on the development of AmeriCanDroid in the future.

So if a different SD card doesn't do the trick, I'd go with another ROM if I was in your place.
[HD2 Android SD Development] shamez23:
There is also an option for haptic feedback in settings->sound

Some Apps, like LED me know, also enable haptic feedback.

Did you reboot your phone after the changes?

It no longer helps to change the settings in startup.txt. They are no longer used.

After a first sat fix, the next sat fix should be much faster, even with the wrong country code.
[HD2 Android SD Development] imrazor:
Thanks for the input. The only other thing I can think of is that I have a GMail account set up on the phone. But if that were causing the problem, the app eating battery would be Gmail/Email, right?

Checked again and Android OS was using 22% of the battery, display was 46% (even though I only have it 1-2 notches above min, and the phone has been in standby/display off most of the afternoon.)

Any recommendations on low power MicroSD cards? That are reasonably priced/cheap?

Another WinMo ROM is right out. I'm using the stock TMOUS ROM, and don't want to void my warranty. I can't afford to replace the phone if it gets bricked. That's why I'm using SD builds instead of NAND builds.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Pieksjoemanne:
[Q] is there a way to activate the option, that when you type the letters name's will be displayed in the stock dialer. Now i'm using Dialer One for this option. But i don't like the interface of that. If there is a way, is there someone willing to help me with it, please. So not, is there a possibility that it can be implemented (don't no if this is the right word:S) in one of the next updates, please.

Update battery test:

During my sleep i have set the BT on disabled and the WIFI, GPS, DATA, SYNC on enabled. During the night it did stay around the 8mA. It used about 4% in 6.5 hours. For me it's stable enough :D

C&W keep up the good work. And all the followers thanks for the input so far.
[HD2 Android SD Development] shamez23:
Ah, stock ROM.

I think it's pretty unlikely that that might cause the problem. Sure a lot of people playing with Android on their HD2 are using a non-stock ROM but I'm pretty sure you are not the only one using stock. But you seem to be the only one with such consistent battery issues.

If you were using some heavily tweaked ROM it would be an option, but stock should be OK.

As for the sd card. There is no suggestion for a certain type. You can buy two sd cards of the same type, same manufacturer and you might run into troubles with one of them whereas the other one runs perfectly.

You don't have to buy a class4 or higher. They are faster during large file transfers to the card but it makes no difference for running Android.

I'm using a class2, 16GB, Sandisk sd card. Android is snappy and battery drain is below 10mA in standby, most of the time.

If you are using a different sd card than the one that came with your phone, you could just try that sd card to see if it solves your problems.
[HD2 Android SD Development] imrazor:
I'm using the 16GB card that came with the phone. It is about 1 yr. old and has seen a *lot* of usage. I'm not sure how gracefully SD cards age. Just for fun, I tried installing AmeriCanAndroid on an old 2GB transflash card, and it locked up for about 3 hours at the HTC logo and never would boot. Unfortunately, that's the largest one I have "just sitting around". I'm going shopping tomorrow - maybe I can find a cheap 8GB card at Mall-Wart.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Sizzlincok:
mine gets stuck at the cyanogen mod 7 logo

wheel stops spinning =/

been like this for 30 minutes now
[HD2 Android SD Development] JustX:
I typically get the same 3% usage by Andriod OS. What I've noticed is that when Cell Standby takes up the most battery, percentage-wise(~40 -60%), my overall battery life is less. When "Cell Standby" is lower down the pole at around 10% then my overall battery life is better.

Do you two or anyone else notice their "Cell Standby" being unusually high on the battery meter?