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[Epic 4G General] BrianDigital:
So 200 for a phone a two year contract and the montly bill assoiciated with that should not be thought as an investment how so.
[Epic 4G General] edonnelly:
What makes something an investment or not is not how much it costs but rather what the purpose of spending the money on it was in the first place. An investment is money spent for the purpose of making more money, either through appreciation or through income. A phone is an investment if it is purchased because the person believes that the amount spent on the phone and contract is less than the amount of money that the person will earn because of that phone.

For some people, therefore, the purchase of the phone will be an investment (especially those who need it for business) while for others it is not an investment but rather a luxury item, toy, perhaps even a life necessity, or any host of other things, but not an investment.
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
3 letters to define the original Investment theory, that I think was trying to be made: R.O.I. - Return On Investment. While 90% of users will see a negative roi financialy (meaning the phone it self didn't bring any net monetary income, in worst case scenarios are a monthly loss) there is an emotional return received. We are all very attached to our devices, ever hear of "phantom phone syndrome"?, and because they make us happy they are netting us an emotional profit. Unless your really miffed about froyo and cry when you see a samsung logo. In which case, get help.

But before Android, in the darkest of dark RIM BB days,I swore on my Pearl I would never go back to a feature phone.

Though, I have noticed lately the line between smart phone and feature phone is fading rapidly. Most all mid grade phones do email now...just not in uber awesomeness like mine, and have done java Jar files(Apps) for a long time. Also now have facebook and twitter apps, so texting the 5 digit numbers to update them is almost obsolete.

No if they could just figure out how to make gps and a qwerty keyboard work we'd be set...yep hardware qwerty and GPS...now that's the future....ehhhhh yea...
[Epic 4G General] edonnelly:
Pretty good description of a hobby. Hobbies are important to living a happy and emotionally-healthy life. But hobbies are generally not investments.

And I would disagree with ROI being the definition of an investment. Investments sometimes lose money, but they were still investments. I think the real definition is the intent. Lots of people bought stocks in 2008 hoping they would make money. They lost money, but they were still making investments. It just turned out they were making poor investments that lost money. I think the real definition is the expected ROI.

I think if someone buys a smartphone because he/she thinks it will generate money that it's an investment, even if in the end it ultimately loses money.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
I think the investment part is a statement about feeling burned, and looking for other options. I was thinking a while back, if I could get a radio device, just a box, that could bluetooth to a headset, feed data to a tablet, and stream audio from the tablet... boom... take the carriers out of 90% of the equation... get an Asus transformer or slide or whatever... maybe get a 4.3 inch tab and a 10.1, one for quick stuff, one for bigger tasks... like that add on thing for the Touch that Sprint sells, if it has good radios, bam take sprint out of the software equation. and if it were popular enough, the carriers would price war it down to affordable... not that they could really charge that much. Besides, theyre all TRYING to go to tiered data anyways... dont let em screw up everything else!
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
My Epic is:

A movie and TV show player

A game machine

A quality digital camera and camcorder

A multiformat communication device

An internet device

A music player - both prerecorded and radio

A navigation unit

A catsitter (OK, OK, not that, but I'm sure an app is in the works)

And it does almost all of those things rather well.

I'd say that's definitely worth $300 plus my relatively inexpensive plan costs. In fact, it's probably worth a lot more. I just am very familiar with the concept of "relative dissatisfaction"; because of places like XDA I know that with a mysterious software upgrade the phone can be even better than it is. And so I wonder why it isn't, already. But I do appreciate what I have.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
I love all those functions, which is basically top of the line android... now just take the phone/data portion and move it to a tiny little device, now Sprint has nothing to do with your android! Thats all I was thinking... I guess you could just get an I9000 and a sim only plan from one of the GSM carriers, right? I just never consider them, theyre crap here in the Seattle area.
[Epic 4G General] Elite11b:
+1
[Epic 4G General] OperationMove:
I must say that I agree with the last few posts too. I use my Epic for alot of stuff. Also back to the beginning of the thread, Im only 24 and an Epic is still not a serious investment. Lol. I think OP just meant, why invest a chunk of money into something that dosen't get updates when other things in that price range do?

Anyways, my 2 cents is as followed. I think it's a good idea to have a smartphone, I would hate to pay for cell service and net service for my pad/laptop. Also the conditions I work in would not support whipping out a tablet or a laptop to play a game when I got 10 minutes. I love having a 4" screen with hardware powerful enough to do what I can.

Anyways, We "Invested" or paid/are paying in the phone itself on the day that we bought it. Just like when you buy a computer or anything else you purchase. You buy it for what it is that day. Not for a promise of an update or saying "It should be able to this X by Y or Z." So when it comes down to that, other than the fact that Samsung didn't release the epic with 2.2, I was pretty god damned happy with it when I first got it! (actually, regardless of updates or support, I still love this phone almost as much as that day!) That's how i feel. When I bought it that day I was very happy with it, and I still love everything about the phone (minus support) to this day as I type this!

I see where everyones coming from and all, don't get me wrong I'd love to be running Full CM6 or a CM7 RC, or even just overclock the 2.2 roms that are out and fix the kinks. I am definitly on the Froyo for Epic bandwagon. Still though, the above is how I feel about the purchase itself.
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Don't get me wrong the Epic is a fine piece of gadget. I'm thinking strongly of getting out my Tungsten TX and using that plus a cheap phone to hook it up to. I need specialized medical grade software to do what I do. Can't very well walk around the ER carrying a stack of books, calculators, and other POS software. I need instant access information and cell reception generally sucks in an ER.
[Desire General] fish2222:
Alright guys, here is the deal. I have a USCC Desire, with the stock 2.2 update that I just did. On 2.1 audio (Rhapsody in general) sounded fine. After the update, the audio sounds like AM radio. I have read that it was a known issue, and Google fixed it, but now we have to wait for HTC to make another patch to fix the problem. Does anyone know of any fixes for this? I would have just stayed with 2.1 if I would have know this, since I really have not found any advantages for 2.2 so far. Help!
[Desire General] fish2222:
Alright, I found a workaround for anyone else with the same issue...

I installed Visionary+, got temproot to work, and then installed Gscript lite and made a disable and an enable shortcut to turn on and off the stagefright codec. The sound is great with it disabled, and I really have not found anything else affected when I turn it off. I just have to say thanks to everyone that gave me the little pieces of the puzzle to make this work until there is an official patch.
[HD2 General] onurboj:
Hi , ?

i have an hd2 branded to orange FR (rom 3.14 and spl 3.03) but it's unlocked (by a friend)

my question is , i have this file RUU_Leo_Orange_FR-B2B_1.72.73.3_radio_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Signed_LEO_Ship (1).exe , how can i install that ? i want to put windows phone 7 so i need Hspl that don't work with my spl , so how can a install that rom ?
[HD2 General] tictac0566:
Quote from this thread, highly recommendable for you anyway - the procedure for WP7 is the same like Android NAND.

How to flash via SD card can be found here.

And please use the search function in the future.
[HD2 General] onurboj:
but for this sd method i have to have Hspl ? or i can flash now ?

thanks
[HD2 General] tictac0566:
No need for HSPL to flash the older Orange ROM onto your device via SD card. Just follow the tutorial step by step.

The process will replace the newer SPL with the older version, then you will be ready to flash 2.08.HSPL, the correct Radio ROM 2.15.50.04, and finally MAGLDR before going to WP7.

All information you need is available in the links I put in my first answer.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
phone into bootloader

connect usb

wait for serial to change to usb

run the .exe
[EVO Shift 4G Accessories] Evo_Shift:
I bought the EVO Shift in part because I wanted to play emulated games. A company called Game Gripper makes these pretty cool attachments to use with physical keyboards. It is basically a button overlay that is shaped and functions like a console controller. I put a picture of one below. They have gotten pretty good reviews. If you are interested in the attachment you should head over to the Game Gripper website and put in a request. I don't know how many requests they need before they produce a Game Gripper but the more they get the better the chances they will produce one. The EVO Shift is actually listed on their request form so maybe they are developing or getting ready to develop one already. You don't even have to enter your email or anything.

http://www.game-gripper.com/Articles.asp?ID=245
[EVO Shift 4G Accessories] jesusice:
Check this out:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/16/game-gripper-going-bluetooth-just-needs-a-little-funding-video/

Looks like they won't need to make phone specific versions anymore.

^ Shift Faced
[EVO Shift 4G Accessories] Evo_Shift:
Wow, that's cool. The only turn off for me would be the normal one is $15 and that one is around $50. I would definitly be interested in it if I didn't have a keyboard though.
[EVO Shift 4G Accessories] jesusice:
True. But you wouldn't have to buy a new one if you got a new phone. I like that.

^ Shift Faced
[EVO Shift 4G Accessories] HTCotta:
But I'd much rather have a cheaper piece that just snaps on to the keyboard, then it doesn't require an app/having the bluetooth radio on. Emulators burn enough battery as is.
[EVO Shift 4G Accessories] e_heinemann:
I put in a request for this this morning before even seeing this post. Looks like great minds think alike. I came from the EVO just so I could have a keyboard for emulated games...
[EVO Shift 4G Accessories] wardfan220:
I sent a request for it a while ago and they told me to keep checking that it would become available at some point.
[EVO Shift 4G Accessories] Evo_Shift:
Anyone have an update at all on this? I am dying to get a game gripper on my phone.
[EVO Shift 4G Accessories] travanx:
I just got a shift, coming from a Samsung Moment, and was trying to remember what the company was called making these. I don't think it took long for when they had the Samsung Moment request form up and when they started to make them.
[EVO Shift 4G Accessories] im.nick.hello:
I was looking at these earlier this week (I fell in love with psx4droid) and there is probubly no chance they're going to make one of these for the shift. I mean common, this isn't the most popular phone, I wish it was though.

Btw the emulators gensoid, n64iod, gameboid, every ____oid have all been removed from the market, but they are FREE on the slideme appstore. Don't worry they were put on by the dev, not pirated.

Pls click 'thank' if this helped!!

No I'm not using Tapatalk... I'm using the XDA Premium app, cause I got balls.
[EVO Shift 4G Accessories] Evo_Shift:
I have been using the Tiger emulators since they are free but allow you save states. They are still available.
[EVO Shift 4G Accessories] danaff37:
I like the tiger ones better. And fpse is a far better ps emulator. Stuck with N64oid though.
[EVO Shift 4G Accessories] saiyandide:
Put in my request for one this would really be awesome.
[EVO Shift 4G Accessories] Evo_Shift:
Nice, hopefully they eventually make one for us. The Epic had one at this point in it's life cycle so we'll see.
[EVO Shift 4G Accessories] linuxman008:
Don't Think...

To my knowledge, when I play emulated games, it will only register 2 keys at once, I can push a third, but it doesn't do anything, even if I have it registered. I don't think a physical one is possible cause of this, but a bluetooth one (assuming we can find one that sends the correct frequency for those still stuck on the gb update) would work just fine.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I may just have a faulty unit, or there is something we can do like the epic users did to stop them from dropping keys when they typed too fast, that might help us here is I'm not the only one with this problem.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zarpar:
Hi,

I'm new to android and nexus S and I tried to install some applications that need to be root.

I searched a little and did find out that are many ways to root. Some of them explained in xda-developers websites.

Before I do the root process I do like to know more about the security issues of doing that. Which risks I'll soffer by doind that? May I trust the code writted "not by" google developers? What is different in that?

Thanks,

Bruno.

:confused:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
it has nothing to do with all of the above

it's to gain super power

you can do all kind of thing when rooted, otherwise many apps will not work

you don't need to root to use the phone, you can always find alternative app that does not require root, probably with less feature and options

non-root is to protect newbies from damaging the phone

only 1337 people root their phones to hack the innards out of it, to master control the phone to do things only imagination can provide.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knytphal:
I would say the main number one reason to root would be to use an app like Titanium Backup to save your settings/applications. There are also some nice utilities to have, like ad blockers and other stuff that require root privileges.

As stated, it's not really something that you need to do, it's more for power users who want total control of their device.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
there are new Backup software that does not require root, like MyBackup

but it sucks compared to TitaniumBackup

however the PAID version of MyBackup Pro or something like that, can do sort of the same thing like TitaniumBackup can do without ROOT

but still shys in comparison to TB
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
its already been said, but the point of rooting is you gain complete super power over your device. so many things can be done with root, great custom ROMs out there. its a no brainer, and i was undecided about it at first too. but once i rooted, i'll never go back. there are too many advantages to list, and not one negative reason to avoid rooting.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeremyt727:
No point

Another reason would be to overclock your phone.. Overclocking makes your phone "faster" but honestly i wouldnt bother. i had recently had the T-Mobile G2 and i rooted it and tried overclocking using an application called "setcpu" but it completely made the phone weird and somewhat unresponsive...

Anyways im currently using the Nexus S and i tend to think of rooting it but honestly, theres no point. this phone is in tip top shape and perfect just the way it is. i mean what ROM is out there for it besides Cyanogenmod 7? DONT ROOT! OR.. i told myself if this phone just starts to act weird and not work well, ill most likely just root it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephiK:
CM7 itself is all you need to make you want to root. It's so easy to root.

Also. Voodoo Sound is another good reason, Voodoo Sound is simply amazing :)

Nexus S was built to be hacked. Use it for it's primary reason why it was built.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
because you can is enough of a reason to ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] suhas_sm:
In simple words, you get administrative access to ur kernel !
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stefanuccio88:
How can I root my nexus S?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] suhas_sm:
Explained in threads in Nexus S Android Development section :)

Check this thread.
[Off-topic] ssar23:
Japanese Whaling Operations Suspended

17 Feb 2011: "Japanese Fisheries Agency official Tatsuya Nakaoku said the Japanese factory ship, the Nisshin Maru, had suspended operations since February 10 "to ensure the safety (of the crew)" following numerous skirmishes with Sea Shepherd activists in icy Antarctic waters."

http://www.news.com.au/national/japanese-whaling-hunt-may-end-early/story-e6frfkvr-1226007184366

This is good news to wake up to this morning - The more whales saved from this disgraceful practice the better. Let's hope reports of "a changing tide of domestic opinion" in Japan are true..
[Off-topic] orb3000:
Very good news indeed!

Hope this continues that way and that more countries stop killing!
[Off-topic] the_scotsman:
Thought I had logged into OCAU for a second :eek: :p
[Off-topic] criticalmass24:
i am glad to hear that the whales will be left alone for the time being.
[Off-topic] boborone:
Nice, good post
[Off-topic] user7618:
Can I still eat the ones that beach themselves without guilt?

-----

Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
[Off-topic] souljaboy:
one ship suspends , three of them go back to work ...
[Off-topic] Advocatus Diaboli:
This is good news indeed! Hopefully it will stay this way...
[Off-topic] ssar23:
LOL now I recognize you.

GO MANLY!
[Off-topic] the_scotsman:
hehehe yep, thats me! It's our year with Wolfman and Snake back ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sfms:
I know this ain't the place to post this question, but i really need help and i got no answers on the Vibrant forum.

So I accidently installed darkys rom in my vibrant. But funny thing is is that this phone looks EXACTLY like a i9000 except that its original firmware is the vibrants (I can post pics if people want to see this). Anyways my problem is that upon installing darkys rom, my volume buttons seem to have switched around, meaning up is down and down is up. I was wondering if this is an easy fix? Cause if so, any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks you!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sqb:
Any help would be much appreciated. I'm currently running cognition rom v3.04 with a firebird v2 1.0 (firebird splash screen not death star) and a kpn1 modem. My problem is that I need raw performance. Battery life doesn't matter too much as I carry a newtrent battery pack and have access to a a/c outlet most of the day. I have mostly geographic problems. Living in a rural area with few towers and the fact that a active volcano keeps spewing volcanic ash and sulfur into the air seems to be killing much signal. I know that there are lots of recommendations on specific areas as far as combos go but I can't find any for hawaii. Thank u in advance for any help given and also a big thank you to all you great devs out there! Please keep up the good work so us on the ground level can keep reaping the benefits. Especially here in hawaii where support is non existent!

Sent from my captivate on a rock in the middle of the ocean!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frankdogg:
Im not sure any modem you flash will help with volcanic ash, lol. I like kp1 as my modem, but jk4 and jl2 seem to be popular choices also. Your best bet would be downloading one of the signal strength widgets from the market, then compare a few of the modems. Trial and error is usually the best way to choose your modem. Good luck!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sqb:
Thanks. Finding a way around actual dirt in the air and lack of repeaters and towers is proving to be the main hurdle. I will get a signal app and start the trial process. The price of living in paradise seems to be coverage.

Sent from my captivate on a rock in the middle of the ocean!
[Blade General] jaaystott:
HTC Sense On The ZTE Blade/Orange SanFranciso

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I am posting this on behalf of a Friend that wouldn't we able to do this without my help if it's possible, but also does not have an XDA account.

My friend has often said to me that he likes the HTC Sense on my HTC Desire, however he cannot afford the upgrade to buy a HTC handset, not even the Wildfire at the moment. After a bit of research of my own, I was able to find this video of what looks like someone running either a port or a very well themed 'theme' for the ZTE.

I was just wondering is there any way I can port the HTC Sense to the ZTE. At the moment the device is rooted and running 2.1 Debranded. Thanks :D
[Blade General] stylez:
Please use the search before posting.

Sense ui possible?

On that note thread closed.
[LG Optimus 2x] Sorrow1994:
Hi everyone!

do anyone of you know if the Optimus Speed Supports SDXC? (or any Bigger memory cards than 32 Gigs?) Officially, LG said, i believe, it Supports only 32Gigs, however, i`ve read somewhere, that the only Difference between SDHC and SDXC is that SDXC uses the "exFAT" Filesystem! Hardware-wise, even a "old" SD 1.0 reader should be able to read both, SDHC and SDXC its just the right drivers u need... so do anyone of you know, if Android supports the exFAT Filesystem? if android Supports it, i believe so, Android should be able to read/write the Big Cards?

sorry for my horrible english by the way :o ...
[LG Optimus 2x] Sorrow1994:
Does really nobody know something :confused: Memory is a really important thing for me...
[LG Optimus 2x] altemirx:
Are you know, where we can buy microSDXC 64GB???? :eek:
[LG Optimus 2x] Gnuig:
I would also like to know if anyone could try out a 64 GB sdxc card in a o2x.

I have the phone on order, and this would be a serious plus, especially since the phone otherwise will only accept up to 40 gb (8gb + 32gb sdhc card ;-o )
[LG Optimus 2x] Sorrow1994:
your wrong lol

the Phone does accept 40 Gigs, However, u can unly use like 35 Gigs or sumthing for your own Data, wich is... hmmm not that much! (5,5GB internal SD+32GB SDHC <-- 30 GB useable!)

EDIT: what would i do with so much space? well, currently the 35 gigs that the Phone offers WOULD BE ENOUGH BY FAR for me! but if im going to buy this Phone, i think im gonna own it for like 3 Years or Something! ...and after some time i might need more Space! (my Music Collection is growing all the time!) and a little bit of... hm how you call it? "Future Proofness"... maybe? anyway, that wouldnt be bad...

EDIT Nr.2: @ altemirx no, i don't lol ... as i said previously, i want... how i should call it? "Future Proofness"
[LG Optimus 2x] svengalis:
If you shoot alot of video or want movie files on your phone they can eat up memory quick especially if you record at 1080p.
[LG Optimus 2x] Sorrow1994:
Yeah that's exactly what i mean! and im very heavy Multi Media user, too :D

so 64 gigs plus would be extremly nice ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] Sorrow1994:
Just... by the way... Does any1 has any idea when the First Micro SDXC Cards are going to be avialable?

EDIT: Bull****, Sorry 4 Double Post!
[LG Optimus 2x] Gnuig:
35 Gigs of usable memory is ok, but i could easily fill that with pics, music and a few videos... Times are a changing... ;-o

Also, if I get the o2x, i doubt it will last me more that 1 1/2 - 2 years max... Unlike my good old nokia 9500 communicator... I miss the full querty on it... RIP!
[LG Optimus 2x] NZtechfreak:
These cards are confirmed working in several Android's now:

http://www.androidnz.net/2011/09/sandisk-64gb-micro-sdxc-cards-confirmed.html

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