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[Windows Phone 7 General] slighmd:
Man, MS really needs to wake up. Aaaand that iPhone is really getting shinier by the day
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Still couldnt pay me to touch the OS or the hardware but the apps are teh secks
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Supposedly "two great Xbox Live games" are scheduled for tomorrow. No details yet.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Guess the point discussed is that "great XBL games" consistently turn out to be puzzles and such nonsense.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doejohn531:
I'd like to see a turn based RPG on there. Right now I'm stuck with playing Zombies!!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] failtorespond:
Me too. I am dying for a decent RPG on wp7. I will even stop complaining about everything being ports and puzzle games if they can AT LEAST port a decent RPG for us! And I'm not talking about something like The Harvest.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Deer Hunter 3D and Zombie Attack second wave are tomorrow's games.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dgaust:
I quite enjoy Rise of Glory, far more than the iPhone equivalent Skies of Glory.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Ok, I played the 2 new games and this is what I have to say:

If this is their idea of 3D gaming on WP7 they might as well go back to puzzles. Deer Hunter and Zombie Attack would have been cool free games on my HD2 a year ago. Microsoft should stop with the ports of old iOS games already unless they're big classics (e.g. Angry Birds, Plants vs Zombies, Game Dev Story, etc.).

What they should be doing really is defining their platform with new IPs that are worth the price of admission because they're making a mockery of the Xbox brand. There are games on marketplace a thousand times more worthy of the Xbox Live tag and are suffering from a lack of exposure. Yet mediocre games appear on the Xbox Live section and get all the coverage, this is pathetic.
[Windows Phone 7 General] robertc1987:
I think the bigger issue is lack of multiplayer. One of the key strengths of the Xbox platform is its multiplayer prowess, yet Microsoft isn't taking advantage of it on the Windows Phone version. This is a weakness that needs to be quickly rectified.

As for puzzle games and iOS ports, I'm not particularly worried.
[Windows Phone 7 General] slighmd:
this!

i got the windows phone primarily because of it's advertised gaming on the go through xbox live (i'm into gaming phones), and hence i was expecting xbox and xbla high quality HC titles but still nada. well, the iOS gaming temptation finally got through and i gave my sister my HTC Trophy, who kept asking me to trade it for her iPhone4 (she's a big facebook fan, hence the facebook integration got her hooked). And guess what? Playing Dungeon Defenders:FW, Street Fighter 4 and Dead Space now! Waiting for Final Fantasy 3 (DS Version) and The Shadow Sun (devs from The Witcher, Bioware's NWN2 and Baldur's Gate: Throne of Bhaal), and just got Shadow Era, an MTG like TCG. THIS is what wp7 xbox games should be like.

And oh yeah, Fruit ninja has online multiplayer too. C'mon MS!
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ WP7 Xbox live should have been similar or better than Game Center. Game Center is pawning the mobile market right now. It's almost like Xbox Live on the 360.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Cruzer1:
I agree in that we need more high detailed, 2D/3D games. Other than ZA2 which just came out, only other game I'm waiting for that looks good is that soccer game (PES?)

Considering 2 XBL games came out this week, hopefully it means that we'll be getting 2 games a week again.
[Windows Phone 7 General] the0ne:
There are a few good games , granted they are not multiplayer and some of them are iPhone ports but if you have not played them on the iPhone they are still worth trying out.

iblast Moki, Parachute Panic HD, Harvest, iLomilo, etc

From the non xBLG category : MonsterUp, quadra, Broiled Earth ( multiplayer ), Chess for post ( multiplayer )

But that said I am all in for the idea of more real time multiplayer from xBox Live and FPS games :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] the92playboy:
I agree with the sentiment that they need to crank it up a notch with the gaming side. But part of me thinks that we are being a little too anxious with the games though, and I figure that by mid April, the devs will have lots of good games out for us.

Or maybe not....
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
In order for this to happen, one of the two prerequisites need to be in place: either there needs to be native engines so that games can be easily ported, or WP7 has to become big enough so that investment in code forks may be justified. Right now if you write a game for WP7 you basically can't reuse any code for any other platform. There's XNA, but it's not used for hardcore games like Halo or Gears of War, it's just for indie stuff.

I don't see either of the two happening by mid-April. We may see a couple of decent games either made as a venture projects or with MS financing, but those can't be large scale trends so far.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
News today: Angry Birds is out April 6. Plus:
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
From Major Nelson...

Apparently the "and more" includes Angry Birds.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
That's what I said, read the post before yours :D.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
That's just more of the same casual crap though.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Loconinja:
For a new platform, I think the quantity and quality of games on WP7 is awesome.
[Windows Phone 7 General] slighmd:
This is pretty lame, and this is supposed to be xbox live? XBOX eh? Good thing i finally said yes to my sister when she traded me her iPhone 4 for my HTC trophy.
[Windows Phone 7 General] isoman4:
Zune Games too...

To me, there is no excuse for Goo Splat, Lucky Lanes Bowling, PGR: Ferrari Edition, Space Battle 2, and Vans Sk8R not being at least available for the WP7...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Maybe they're releasing one game a week so people can afford them :D.

Beautiful Katamari is $6.99/£5.49, same as Castlevania Puzzle... and it's not good.
[Windows Phone 7 General] PieOfJustice:
That's what I was thinking. In Canada the price is $7.49, which in my opinion is way too much for a mobile game.
[Windows Phone 7 General] karios:
I personally welcome the competition:) Let's see how it compares with our game, MonsterUp, even with the unfair advantage of being an XBOX Live game on launch.

We had been discussing with Microsoft about getting MonsterUp the XBOX Live brand also, but the answer was, in a nutshell, that it is very very (very) difficult.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Evidently Angry Birds and all the other titles around it have been delayed. Instead they're releasing Super Monkey Ball on the 6th and a couple of other games the following week.

WP7: It's all about the delays.

Check that edited post: http://www.winrumors.com/angry-birds-for-windows-phone-7-due-on-april-6/
[Windows Phone 7 General] jimbonics:
Maybe I'm easy to please. I'm more than happy with the games that are coming out (*cough*katamarisucksbad*cough*) like Full House Poker, which integrates with the game on the xbox console, and latest is this fable golf game, which is pretty good, that integrates with Fable III (gold transfer).

I mean, there's an asston of games out there. I think the XBL titles will improve with time.
[Windows Phone 7 General] cbebop7:
yup agree and this month there will be even more gr8 titles so I dont think its that bad for a platform that is only 5 month old. Also this way I dont waste money buying games;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] jessiethe3rd:
PES 2011 aint no puzzle game.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Vvillegas134:
Apple has had four years of experience under their belt and with it four years worth of developers and learning experiences. Wp7 has been out for maybe 5 months. I personally believe they have done well in such a short time. Just got to be patient.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Vvillegas134:
thankyou. Lol
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Hey guys! After the amazing Centipede this week we're getting two more old arcade games on Wednesday to put in our Game Room collection. We're so lucky, it feels good to be a WP7 gamer :).
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
If these games weren't somehow overprized, I'd really purchase them. Maybe because they really remind me of the first games I played on an old Atari 2600 back when I was a kid.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Another Game Room release next week, who's still smiling?
[Windows Phone 7 General] behh:
i agree, i though xlive on wp7 will be smth like porting xbox arcade games to play it on phone , but its far from what it should be...
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
Which one? Couldn't find any information so far.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
It's Lunar Lander, follow @karlstricker on twitter for weekly updates on what's coming.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
I will, thank you. :) And yeah, Lunar Lander is not necessarily what I'm looking forward to. -.-
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
If someone doesn't know what Lunar Lander is, have a look at this amazing video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA00gtKia5s

Now tell me Microsoft isn't just spitting at our faces.
[Windows Phone 7 General] munkeyphyst:
I could see all these "Game Room" titles combined for 4.99, if it included joust... :)

lunar landing? really? when are they going to get the original pong?
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
A look at the comp:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sHhy9ybGUc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

XBOX Live should at least be as good as Game Center on IOS. Voice chat, multi player etc..
[Windows Phone 7 General] slighmd:
OMG these so called WP7 Xbox Live games are really amazing! I mean, Dead Space on the iOS and Nova 2 on android are nothing compared to kick @ss WP7 games Lunar Lander and Centipede! They even have cheevos to boot! No wonder WP7 gaming rulez!

/sarcasm
[Windows Phone 7 General] behh:
check square off , a nice app taken from xbox 360 marketplace and done for our phones ,its much better than a half xbox live titles combined.

Anyway xbox live on wp7 is like laughting at our naive faces by m$
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Next week is Pac Man Championship Edition DX ($6.99!) then the following week is the start of the 6 weeks thingy with Angry Birds, Plants vs Zombies, Doodle Jump, etc.

Will make up for all that Game Room crap.
[Windows Phone 7 General] professorwol:
i agree with the original poster, i feel like they are coming out with crap and as for someone suggesting that I try space off.. Ok This is XBOX LIVE and im trying to discuss how crappy the releases have been! Centipede!!?? Full house poker? with no multiplayer?? explain to me how this is supposed to be a gaming center?

This is a joke.. Where are the developers, why are all the games so amateurish ?

Microsoft has really robbed us by selling us a poorly integrated OS
[Windows Phone 7 General] theclueless:
if microsoft can go the sony's route and start porting original xbox games to wp7, it would be great... not seeing it happening thou
[Windows Phone 7 General] jgcaap:
i think we should be more patient. I agree that games arent much interesting, but lets see in a while. If it continues i'll get an android or iphone. i use the phone alot for entertainment
[Windows Phone 7 General] slighmd:
same thing, mostly use my phone for games and media consumption so that's exactly what i did, i got an iPhone 4 coz most these so called xbox live games are craptastic. Lunar Lander? c'mon MS! But I'm still hooked on the WP7 UI and UX though, and so with the Avatar integration. Will be getting a new WP7 once true Xbox Live games are out but until then...
[Windows Phone 7 General] downloaderintruder:
i want to have the black ops zombies on my trophy like the one on my ipod.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
6 weeks of great XBL games beginning on may, 25th have been announced. These are Hydro Thunder Go (May, 25th, $4.99), Doodle Jump (June, 1st, $2.99), geoDefense (June, 8th, $2.99), Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode I (June, 15th, $6.99), Plants vs. Zombies (June, 22nd, $4.99) and finally Angry Birds (June, 29th, $2.99).. Read more here and here.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
We haven't had a new game for a while and overall Xbox Live continues to disappoint massively.

The Halo Atlas feature is nice but unless they start doing that with many games people won't rush to WP7 just yet.

Also pocketnow has a video of five upcoming games but we've seen videos before of games that have never been released so God knows when they'll show up.

[YOUTUBE]DNT4DRz2p0Q[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]sHul0h2T1KM[/YOUTUBE]
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
Bet we see Fusion: Genesis on the iphone before WP7. :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Actually since it's a XBLA game due for release this year it will most certainly be on Windows Phone this year too and on the same day. Same situation as when Full House Poker was released in February.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sylau90:
Developers of xbox live game like treat WP7 as an once off investment. They have been stop supporting their games for ages....

For example, I have bought the harvester and de blob back in january.....no update and just nothing...I thought the harvester gonna be a hit and they will keep adding more features. I bought this app at a god damn high price...about AUD 9....god...

Xbox live is truly the real unfunny joke,they have abandon people who do not own a xbox just like me,I don't know whats the point of collecting achievement points. Furthermore, fullhouse poker has no multiplayer mode...seriously they have been released this game for about 8months.....now it's time to go back to my facebook games and miniclip games...there are definitely better than xbox live game and they are free.

god damn xbox live...no point having friends in xbox live too...just competeng our achievement points everyday...no go...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Flipping 'Jet Car Stunts' is the game this week, FFS Microsoft! I can't believe I need to buy an iPhone to get decent games on a mobile when one mobile OS has got freaking Xbox Live! :mad:
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
I've been removing you guys from my friend list. I need real gamers, sorry.

I saw the connection with the 360, and all I can say is seriously? WTF? Heart breaking.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Tell me about it. I got an Xbox 360 around launch and was looking forward to something great with the phone. I stiil remember Bill Gates talking about Live Anywhere in 2006!!

5 years later and one year into WP7 I'm massively disappointed.

[YOUTUBE]Myol5k7qb_c[/YOUTUBE]

PS: Funny quote 3'55 in: "Buy the content once, play it anywhere", ah ah...
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
I would still be playing Crackdown: Project Sunburst if they had bothered to fix it. Stopped buying games a while back, eventually MS will wise up. Hopefully.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
I said it before, I'll say it again: you can't seriously expect real games on a platform that's so unpopular, with its own dev framework which makes it impossible to easily port stuff from other OSes. No native code + tiny market share = no graphics-heavy games. Not to mention lack of custom shader support.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
Looking at the kind and quality of games they are making now like burn the rope, collapse And now stunt car, i think they are thinking avg age of wp7 customer is 4 yrs old.
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
Aren't all (or most) these games highly rated iOS games?

These are the types of games people play on their phones. There are exceptions like Infinity Blade, but phone gaming is mostly these pick up and play types of games.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
I dont think they are higher rated because they are good or 'favriite' games... its high rated because they are cheap and more people would a buy a 2 dollar game rather than a 7 dollar game..

But atleast they have the option to buy quality games as equally as smaller ones...

We have nothing.. other than ones we got at the very beginning which was 8 months back..
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
In the latest and last thisismynext podcast they have a 10 mns long discussion about games on WP7 if you want to give it a go (starting at 28 mns).

http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/30/podcast-030-10-30-2011/
[Windows Phone 7 General] Vukile:
I've bought 13 xboxlive games already thus far, I do feel MS could do with some relationship building with the major game houses like eidos, rockstar games,etc. They've made an okay start with EA on need for speed,but EA is a massive beast,we deserve more ports from them too.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DavidinCT:
I guess it's all about the acheivements, I like getting them on my phone and chatting with my fellow xbox live friends but, as others have said, I am dispointed in the selection of games.

When I look over the games for iOS or Android, then look over the WP7 selection, I still feell there is a lot to be desired for this platform.

Maybe it will take dual core CPUs to do some bad ass games but, at this point, we'll get a little better than puzzle games for now and I want hard core games.

So, for now, it's all about the achivement points..
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Infinity Blade runs on single core.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DavidinCT:
Good game but, look at the demo of Rage for iOS, not even close....or shall I say, not even in the same ball park.... and for less money (Rage $1.99, Infinity Blade $2.99)

http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/carmack-confirms-rage-on-iphone-is-1-99-1-4gb-download-20101029/

Now you know why I want a dual core..... The OS itself does not need it, that runs fine, it's just the gaming end....
[Windows Phone 7 General] Strike_Eagle:
LOL, waiting for someone to have something like hacked Fruit Ninja version , love that thing on iOS, lol/
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Graphics heavy games need a lot of storage and, more importantly, custom shader support. So it's pointless to talk about GPUs and CPUs when the OS doesn't allow these games essentially. Moreover, they are too expensive to make. WP7 doesn't have the market share to have them.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
They're both on ios. I think that matters more than how they compare with each other. People will just buy both. Games on wp7 are running 2-5x those prices with xbl banner on them.

An yes we've been saying that about the better hardware forever. Person above is right about the other technical details, though.
[Windows Phone 7 General] brummiesteven:
Didn't the iPhone only JUST get dual core? They have a load of great games which worked fine on their single core phones.

I thought Gaming was fine because windows phones have dedicated GPUs?
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ now imagine how the new games will look.

BTW IPhone lagged a lot with some of those games.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
All smartphones have dedicated gpus. Even older blackberries and the hd2 had one. It's the quality of the gpu that matters. Hummingbird an A4 are simply way superior to what the launch phones launched with, and still slightly better than adreno 205 especially when texture quality is a factor.

That is why we like newer hardware. The socs have updated processors As Well As GPUs in them. :)

The adreno 205 is no match for the gpus in the dual core processors, especially not Exynos or the A5.

This is why devices with older gpus on android needed low texture versions of games like angry birds and simply could not run games like dungeon defenders at all.
[Windows Phone 7 General] brummiesteven:
Fair enough, I've never actually gamed on an iPhone beside casuals like Doodle Jump to actually know this.
[Wildfire Accessories] MasterDL:
Anyone to recommend a good Bluetooth headset, a set with music controls 3.5mm jack for your own earphones and a display that would display the id3 tags or file name. Of course be able to answer calls.

I'm using a Nokia one at the moment but its not very responsive, dunno if its because of the old Bluetooth 1.0 compatibility.
[Wildfire Accessories] Alex_GP:
Sony MW600.
[Wildfire Accessories] MasterDL:
Thanks for the recommendation, so I bought a set after reading positive reviews. Connection was easy and very quick and responsive. But one fault is that the phone itself starts ringing on incoming calls the and some signals through the headset. Weird doesn't happen on my old slow unresponsive BT headset (Nokia) at least the phone didn't ring just signals through the headset bit embarrassing when your phone goes off and you answer on a BT headset.

Any settings that could fix this?

I have resetted BT pairing and the headset but still same.

Anybody use this with wildfire?

Sent from my HTC Wildfire
[Wildfire Accessories] Alex_GP:
Are you using any custom roms? I remember that cyanogen rom has some options about ringing in headphones, if I am not mistaken.

Also, did you test it on another phone to see if it's behaving the same way ?
[Wildfire Accessories] MasterDL:
I am using Wildpuzzle 0.8. Checked media and phone audio is connected. Have tried it on a Nokia and same thing happens. Can the headset be updated or something? My way round is to mute the phone when I connect the headset but this is so inconvenient when sometimes I forget to reenable sound.

Sent from my HTC Wildfire
[Wildfire Accessories] shaun2312:
I use these and they are great.

product 172052 on misco.co.uk (I can't post outside links)
[Wildfire Accessories] Alex_GP:
Try this: Do a nandroid back-up and flash CM7. See if the problem still persists.

If not... I`m out of ideas. Maybe try to get a refund?
[Wildfire Accessories] MasterDL:
I have read many threads with same complaint, now realising It's a feature of most new smartphones (dunno whether its just android or not) that phone always rings with Bluetooth headsets just in case for some reason you take out your earphones for some reason.

I'm a little reluctant to switch to cm7 waiting for it to be stable first.

Sent from my HTC Wildfire
[Wildfire Accessories] Alex_GP:
I think it`s normal for a phone to ring via the speaker even with the headset connected. Maybe they just need to add an option for it.

I meant testing CM7, not switching to it completely. A 30 min job to test CM7 and restore nandroid.
[Wildfire Accessories] ebioman:
Hi

Just got the MW600 as well, very pleased so far.

I have the same issue, phone is ringing as well - whereas it does not really bother me.

There are few things not working well for me, so I was hoping to find here some feedback:

- No Song titles are displayed (not so bad since it is normally clipped in a position where you can not easily check

- the call-button does not work to call somebody, only to take a call

- the play button does not automatically start playing HTC music - but worked with Winamp and Songbird

Any suggestions ?
[Wildfire Accessories] nikelisgod:
Original Rom (l have 2.2.1 nie) have Sound quality issue over a2do. HTC support said, I must wait for next update (when they may be fix it)
[Wildfire Accessories] shaun2312:
I'm having an issue with my Plantronics 903+ Bluetooth Headset. They pair and play's music fine , but it cuts out quite alot if i move about. Honestly if I have to sit still I may as well get wired headphones.

I am CM nightly's (71) with the latest radio flashed.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
[Wildfire Accessories] gpgeza:
Hello,

i use Jabra BT3030

http://www.productwiki.com/jabra-bt3030/

3 years of working, without any problem ;)
[Wildfire Accessories] ebioman:
Ok, I really start to like the SE MW600 a lot :)

If you get a call music stops and you can take the call with one button.

Double tapping the call button re-calls the last person you phoned - works good as well.

But I am still not having the ideal media player

Original HTC music player fails to start up automatically when you tab the music button

- but next song/pause works well

Songbird opens automatically, next song/pause/... works well but searching in a track not and it is rather heavy making the phone really slow

Winamp is probably the best, but I still think it is too heavy

Does anybody knows a good light media player with bluetooth support ?