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[HD2 Android SD Development] kdelisle:
Yeah, I think we've all been there (noobishness). I've heard this suggestion before (let it create a new image file and then copy it over), but I'm not sure that I see the value (from a mechanical point of view). In fact, there may be an argument that it can be riskier (as the copy process might introduce a new issue). Also, I don't think that you should ever use a data image from one build on another build. I keep a back up of my data.img, but leave the image in the file, as it should remain untouched. The new build should copy in over the old build. As there is no data.img file in the new build, there shouldn't be any effect. I do look out for when the devs suggest to create a new image and then Ti is invaluable...Using Ti to backup your launcher seems to save your layout.

Just my thoughts.
[HD2 Android SD Development] daniel_kiefer:
I use TB to get apps from this build to jag's MIUI build and vice versa. That's about it though.
[HD2 Android SD Development] shost:
Dont think so, he sugested copy not move, so no need to copy back

Sent from my HTC HD2
[HD2 Android SD Development] JMG01:
1507 lost VPN....

Thanks for the new build. Good work!:)

Err, em, just one very little thing.... I had VPN working with 0507 but not with 1507.

:o
[HD2 Android SD Development] sanju.b80:
True,

But then if you overwrite the android folder, wouldn't it remove the data.img file?
[HD2 Android SD Development] dttung80:
In STARTUP.TXT

I'm using TMOUS.

Edited that: set ramsize 0x1e512000 i feel that my Android run more faster.

Is it right ? :D
[HD2 Android SD Development] hungry81:
No because there is no data.img file in a new release. The OS checks for it and creates it if its not there on first boot, (part of the reason first boot takes so long iguess). If you overwrite your old android files then all the other existing files get updated and your existing data.img stays the same cause there is nothing to replace it. Sorta Like in back to the future 2 when they leave Martys girlfriend on the porch and reality changes around her lol.
[HD2 Android SD Development] sanju.b80:
Thats a good point, but I'm confused here now. If android creates a new data.img file, wouldn't it mean that all the applications would be gone and we should have backed it up first and then used TB to restore it?

The reason i mentioned the point that cope "forgot" was because he also mentioned after the post, that thats the easiest way to NOT loose the applications and settings.

May be I am missing out something?
[HD2 Android SD Development] sanju.b80:
Waiting for more confirmations... :) :) :) :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
it doesnt create a new data.img if there is already and existing one there.
[HD2 Android SD Development] sanju.b80:
Correct.

My only point of concern was, as per your steps mentioned, if u dont copy the data.img file back to the android folder, u loose all the applications and settings. Right?

Please correct me if i am wrong.
[HD2 Android SD Development] shamez23:
Imagine a new user that is updating his build for the first time.

The old Android folder contains a data.img file. That file was created during the first boot.

The new folder doesn't contain an data.img file.

When he copies the new folder to his sd card, the old folder gets overwritten.

That means the old files inside the old folder get overwrtitten by the newer files.

But since there is no data.img file in the freshly downloaded and unzipped new Android folder, the data.img file in the old folder doesn't get overwritten.

The build doesn't create a new data.img file when there is already an old data.img file in the folder.

The old data.img file contains all your settings and apps.
[HD2 Android SD Development] ^^rac:
New Version

Howsit guys

Does anyone have feedback regarding the new version?
[HD2 Android SD Development] pwhitrow:
yep, it's perfect ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] dttung80:
Very fast and stable... like the Transformers.

(Very) More faster than the older version ( can be use old Data.img :) )

But after 3nd restart, then 1 hour, have SOD - pull battery.

Continue testing my robot. :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] pwhitrow:
Trying this, seems OK so far. Not sure if faster or not to be honest :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
Docent

Where is Docent?

I do hope all is well, as we haven't heard from you since early June.

Please give us a sign...
[HD2 Android SD Development] docent14:
Well... alive and kicking, some kind of an silent admirer now ;) Switched from 'test' line to 'mainstream' line, working my ass off (f..n economy)...
[HD2 Android SD Development] vnt87:
A lot of my apps would force close after a few reboots, they seem pretty random. Right now, my Launcher Pro is in a infinite force close loop which prevent me from accessing any settings. Guess I have to reinstall. I'm just wondering if anybody else also getting this?
[HD2 Android SD Development] sanju.b80:
The new build is working superb for me. No issues as of now AT ALL !!

Thanks.
[HD2 Android SD Development] eddyedwards007:
Yea same for me :)

Early observations stable and fast, old data image from the 9th July (I think).

Still have the problem with the sky + app not showing the channel logos which is odd, but the build itself is fab!
[HD2 Android SD Development] cporeaux:
RAM size :

- 0x1e400000 = 507510784 = 484 Mo

- 0x1e512000 = 508633088 = 485,07 Mo

Didin't try that change...

MAybe PHysicall RAM size is bigger, but i think that chef that set this value made it for most devices... you have a 512 or 768 RAM HD2 ?

By my side, trying this night build (qith good backups)

Latest build (0711) was really fast and batt drain was good (with my app/use) about 7mA (just for information : no request for anything else... and not for debate)
[HD2 Android SD Development] ecb5:
Me, o/ , me, o/...ME, o/.
[HD2 Android SD Development] ecb5:
So you didn't have any battery drain spike issues with previous builds? Not even after a call?

Alors? Comme ca tu n'avais aucun soucis de decharge rapide apres un appel? (desole pour mon clavier anglais).
[HD2 Android SD Development] shost:
Last build is great, i hope sd will be still supported even when nand version is available.

Sent from my HTC HD2
[HD2 Android SD Development] yugoport:
~whats the impact of that change?
[HD2 Android SD Development] blackhumor918:
Is there any settings of SetCPU recommended in fitting the ACA builds the most on the battery?

It's gone 5% battery per hour in standby with AutoSync and Mobile Connection active on my HD2 right now without SetCPU, no call, no SMS... Otherwise, it's gone out of that %. I'd like to save its drop as possible as could, in order to have the ACA as my daily HD2 OS instead of back to WM6.5 e.g. out of office for 1 day meeting...

Thanks Cope.
[HD2 Android SD Development] axw820:
is kexec enabled for linux

is kexec enabled on this build? i really wanna try running linux through 'droid.

have any of you guys tried it?
[HD2 Android SD Development] sanju.b80:
Control brightness by sliding on statusbar

Hey, i see this new option created. I even checked it ON in the status bar tweaks.

But nothings happening when i slide my fingers across the status bar. is there anything specific to be done?

FYI, tablet tweaks are ON. And i have tasker enabled. (Seen on status bar)

Thanks.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mv:-):
not new actually, been available since i don't know when. been using it. :)

anyway, you have to disable "Automatic brightness" from Settings-Display-Brightness for this to work.
[HD2 Android SD Development] sanju.b80:
Done that already. I have enabled that option, checked it ON and still not able to adjust brightness with by swiping over the status bar. Not sure how to do it.

Thanks for your help.
[HD2 Android SD Development] cporeaux:
Hi,

After calls, i have a little spike, like everyone, but after a while, it goes down to less than 10 (around (between 6 and 11, more often near 10).

Last night, i found my HD with a high battery level (didn't notice the exact value yesterday), but i now that with kind of device, it's not bad at all.

I disabled localisation as said before, and this night, it was without data but phone on.

Back to the latest release : GPS fix is awesome ! Cold one is very fast ! (outside).

BT is working, calls are ok, BT is fine and found directly..

Test rule : update through card reader, start (twice), WIFI test (hidden WIFI), data ok (through MArket (with updates) and ProfiMail), BT ok, made a call through BT, went out of the car to make GPS fix : ok. Disabled GPS and BT. Back to 8mA.

VERY NICE Build !!!!

Will see daily use next week, but so far so veru good

P.S. French : Non, pas de décharge rapide après un appel, pendant des versions de Juin, mais rien depuis longtemps, surtout depuis la désactivation de la localisation.

English : no, no batt drain after phone call, happened some times with june builds, but no big batt drain since a while, and better with localisation off, it seems.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mv:-):
Make sure "Automatic brightness" is off (unticked).

Try swiping (tap and hold then swipe) only across status bar (not through the tablet tweaks bar, if that's what it is called).

Otherwise, untick and tick the "Status bar brightness control" from the Status bar tweaks option and try swiping from there. It should work now, hopefully.
[HD2 Android SD Development] kushXmaster:
What you want to do is, select an area of the taskbar (left being most dim, right being brightest) then press finger against status bar and hold for ~2 seconds. Leaving finger pressed and dragging across status bar will actively adjust it. It will work, I promise.

I would also like to note that as always you guys rock! This new build is smooth and fast and seems stable so far. Will be testing battery life today.

I also noticed the sd tag at the end of the file...now nand is just a matter of time. (Public one anyways)

Edit: damn sittin here devouring this tasty burger release and I almost forgot to go to work.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Jerome.Ramos:
RE: Best Build

Hello...just wanted to say...your recent build is one of your best work warren and copenhagen...thank you so much...:D
[HD2 Android SD Development] mfrey0118:
I assume you are referring to PC sync? I have been using MyPhoneExplorer and I am able to sync everything and use the file explorer to read/write to the phone partition and the SD card partition no problem...
[HD2 Android SD Development] eddyedwards007:
Multi mount SD card from market works a treat and it's free!
[HD2 Android SD Development] xavierh:
So far with the new build wifi and BT are working fine. No data drops (I have been in my house). Bt that will be tested today when I go to my sons soccer games. Will also test gps fix there too.

I will also test battery life now that I have setcpu setup with a couple of profiles. I use push notifications for exchange, sync with gmail, google plus and twitter. Let's see how it goes.
[HD2 Android SD Development] kushXmaster:
You copy it so there is a data.img in android and one on your computer somewhere. When you copy the NEW android build to your sd card, assuming you haven't deleted the old one windows will pop up with a notification asking if you to copy and replace all existing files. Do this. It will overwrite all the old files with the new ones except for the data.img because there isn't one in the new build.

The reason for copying it over to pc is for a backup in case the boot fails and corrupts data.img it makes it much easier if you screw up install if you have your data.img backed up.

Hope this helped clear that up!
[HD2 Android SD Development] materoprodutions:
great great build, battery drain amazing and everything else works supergood !!!

unfortunately I have one problem which might not be related to the build but I still can't figure out why: I can't send sms messages, it alwasys says message sendind failed. I tried different sms apps, tried resetting the phone connection, rebooting the phone, airplane mode on/off but nothing. Maybe there is something wrong with my data.img? what can I try before creating a new data.img?

thank you!!
[HD2 Android SD Development] Histrument:
Awesome build. Simply amazing. Gotta load up my paypal account... next week's burgers are on me.
[HD2 Android SD Development] shamez23:
What is your service provider?

Maybe the provider settings are wrong and have to be changed.
[HD2 Android SD Development] romraker:
USB broken?

Where is the popup on the phone asking what connection type when connecting to pc via usb?
[HD2 Android SD Development] dttung80:
I already noted that i'm using TMOUS. That's mean 768 Mb RAM. :)

That's mean I can chang from 400 to 400+(768-512)=656Mb right? :D

Let me try now with 640Mb :P
[HD2 Android SD Development] shamez23:
Ask cyanogenmod. It's broken since the switch from GB 2.3.3 to 2.3.4.

Look at the uppermost post of this page.
[HD2 Android SD Development] shamez23:
As far as I know, the physical RAM of your device doesn't matter with an SD build. It uses your SD card instead.
[HD2 Android SD Development] materoprodutions:
my provider is simple mobile. Until yesterday and older build everything was working perfectly with the default settings and apns. Now i can receive messages, I have solid data connection but I can't send any sms. I think something got corrupted in the update. I tried to send from winmob and it works so I'll exclude a sim problem....Do you think I can try a fix permission thing?

Thank you
[HD2 Android SD Development] dttung80:
You can found it on status bar.

It have 2 notifications : USB connected and USB debugging connected.

Click on the notification : USB connected and have fun!
[HD2 Android SD Development] shamez23:
You can always try that.

You can also save your old data image to your PC or rename it and let the build create a new one. 10minutes and you can check if it's some form of corruption or not.

If not, just go back to your old image and wait for someone that knows what to do.
[HD2 Android SD Development] dttung80:
Sorry if i said something wrongs. If the buil use SD instead, that's mean we can increase bigger RAM size.
[HD2 Android SD Development] shamez23:
Probably. I never put any thought to it.

If the RAM really is virtual and is located in your data.img file, you would have to increase the size of the data.img file.

But I don't know. Better wait for someone with more insight into the system than me, to answer that question.

Why, though? Are you running out of memory? No need to have more, when you don't use it.
[HD2 Android SD Development] TheNT:
?????

How can ram be on SD card?

swap file etc... yes

but ram is ram, and rom/hdd/flash... are totally different thing.

So your flash side is on SD card, means your data and swap, like your WM (probably you have WM) is on NAND means internal flash memory...

And either OS you use, nand or SD uses phone memory which means RAM.

like you have in your PC's Hard disk drive and RAM, two different things.
[HD2 Android SD Development] yugoport:
I'm starting to be a little confused, if we could raise the ram in our builds that way why devs from sense builds that requires more ram don't do it ..I think the only to do it is with swap..
[HD2 Android SD Development] Tarheel:
Thanks this will save me a couple of steps when upgrading.

BTW I think I misstated about using old data image I use it only with same builds

Also what is USB connection I see that it's not working but I have to problems connecting to my pc maybe they are talking about something else?
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
re: editing the startup.txt file is not something I recommend doing

http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/UpdateKernel#Editing_startup.txt

The parameters in the startup.txt were not meant to be changed.

Can we move the haret.exe / startup.txt discussion to another thread please.

this is not the place for it. Thankyou.
[HD2 Android SD Development] cajunflavoredbob:
You have up to 576MB of RAM in a Leo.
[HD2 Android SD Development] sanju.b80:
Ammmazing build... !!!

Thanks to the GODS...

One thing i noted, not an error of course.... the charging takes longer now. Previously it would charge 100% within an hour, but now its been around 1 hour and its at 54% from 2%. Again, something i noted, not an error or an issue at all.

Thanks.

I had a wish though... Thought if the tablet tweaks are not on the status bar... That would have been better. Just an opinion.
[HD2 Android SD Development] shamez23:
OK. Got that confused with the RAM builds that were available for the HD2 for some time. They were using the RAM to run parts of the OS. Normal sd builds don't.
[HD2 Android SD Development] shamez23:
If you don't like the tablet tweaks in the status bar, don't use them.
[HD2 Android SD Development] webvan:
Not sure what's going in here, but I just can't get 0715 to work on my HD2. I tried everything : keeping the data.img, removing the data.img, copy/replace, delete/copy, even a fresh install with only \android on the SD and after the reboot it stays frozen on the "green robo" and cyanogen screen.

Hardware incompatibility? Anything else I can try? Thanks!
[HD2 Android SD Development] sanju.b80:
No its not like that. I do like them. In fact i am using them regularly. But we are used to using the home and back buttons to the bottom of the screen. And the status bar at the bottom doesn't look good.

So thought if the tablet tweaks and status bar were seperate and it was possible to place the buttons may be to the left and right bottom of the screen. (i'm using resolution 200), that would have been great.

Thanks.
[HD2 Android SD Development] TheNT:
Have you tried to format your sd card?
[HD2 Android SD Development] romraker:
Popup, not status bar notification. When connecting usb, phone should show popup and give choices like, USB Sync. HTC sync won't connect with "my htc" driver or "ADB composite drivers" or any driver whatsoever or version of HTC Sync.
[HD2 Android SD Development] webvan:
Yes, did that too. It's mind-boggling especially since version 0705 works fine on my backup SD card.

I seem to remember that people had boot problems with the 0709 (?) build but it's hard to track them down in this topic, maybe someone remembers from the top of their head?
[HD2 Android SD Development] shamez23:
You can try "button savior" or "zmooth" from the android market instead of the tablet tweaks.
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
no charging in over 14hrs 20 mins.. and battery is still @ ~65%.
[HD2 Android SD Development] eddyedwards007:
I had problems getting stuck on the new splash screen when cope had reduced the size of the rootfs.img and it wouldn't boot up, I can't remember whether it was the 07/09 or 07/11, cope just advised me to overwrite the smaller rootfs.img with the one from the previous build which worked for me. I've had no problem with subsequent builds so I don't think that will help with your problem.

Sent from my HD2 using carrier pigeon
[HD2 Android SD Development] eddyedwards007:
Yea but have you used it lol :)

Sent from my HD2 using carrier pigeon
[HD2 Android SD Development] eddyedwards007:
Seriously, the battery is noticeably better for me

Sent from my HD2 using carrier pigeon
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
But the Tablet Tweaks are in the Status Bar. You can have them on the left or on the right or not at all...
[HD2 Android SD Development] webvan:
Thanks, that's what I vaguely remembered reading.

Things have improved here :

- reformatted SD

- clean install of \android

-> booted, yeah !

- copied new \android on old SD card with the new data.img

-> booted, yeah !

- now placed back my origina data.img and hoping for the best, if not I'll restore from Titanium backup.
[HD2 Android SD Development] sanju.b80:
Ok. Will check. Thanks mate.
[HD2 Android SD Development] webvan:
Didn't work, will restore with Titanium
[HD2 Android SD Development] eddyedwards007:
Hope it works for you :)

I'd definitely say this is the best build for me by far.

One other thing, I decided to change my radio from 2.15 to 2.12 after hearing good things about it and I definitely seem to have better battery life/signal, coincidence?

Sent from my HD2 using carrier pigeon
[HD2 Android SD Development] uruk007:
same problem here with the new update, frozen cyanogen screen, cannot boot into android.. tried to wait but it stays there forever, i wonder does magldr 1.13 has to do anything with it since i've updated it yesterday from v1.12 to 1.13?? never had these issues with previous releases?? plz help
[HD2 Android SD Development] Animefan:
I updated today, no problems, just copy to sd card etc.

I must admit I have no idea what that magdlr is so maybe that is the reason yea
[HD2 Android SD Development] webvan:
So restoring with Titanium works...more or less, all my widgets were lost (I only restored app, not system daae as I heard that caused problems) so I'm reconfiguring now. Also GPS doesn't work, I'll be reapply the Tytung fix manually. Overall a very painful upgrade, hope it's worth it with the battery drain!
[HD2 Android SD Development] materoprodutions:
everything great, very fast and stable, thank you guys!!!

ps. just wondering about the ram in android and on HD2 in general. I happened to read online that there ore some tricks to make you read the full 576mb of ram on hd2. Once again, the build is perfect the way it is, I'm just curious about this fact..does anybody know something about that?
[HD2 Android SD Development] TheNT:
search "tmouse 576mb radio" you will find it...
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
Be careful what you wish for. For me the SD build is far better, but I do have the EU HD2 with limited ROM
[HD2 Android SD Development] materoprodutions:
thank you. does anybody here use this? is still android/build limited so it will show only 448mb?
[HD2 Android SD Development] scoobykanye:
Same here...tried format with old data.img and format then new data.img.....no luck..will keep trying....any advice
[HD2 Android SD Development] uruk007:
I managed to boot into latest build, just replaced zImage from the 070911 build to 071511 android/root in sd card and voila!!
[HD2 Android SD Development] Bob Davis:
NOOB here, just wanted to say, I read threads, and have installed this AmeriCanAndroid, and it works great!
[HD2 Android SD Development] joescian:
Yes I have same with inbuilt launcher . Finally rebooted itself and now seems ok. Have had 3 episodes of that. This is an issue with the build but it is fastest Cope and Warren have put out there.
[HD2 Android SD Development] hensond67:
Latest build gives me blurry mms pictures when received. I even tried changing the user agent to Nexus One but still comes in blurry
[HD2 Android SD Development] kushXmaster:
Something I noticed: when booting from winmo while connected to charger led light stays on and doesn't go off. Not really a problem because you can just leave it unplugged until you reach "powered by aca" screen.

Again, no worries about it. Just something I noticed as it didn't happen in previous builds...at least I don't think it did.

I would also like to add that gps fix is considerably faster. ~45 seconds compared to three+ minutes. Awesome.
[HD2 Android SD Development] danct2005:
Installed yesterday and since that no problem. I am using an old data.img.

Sent from my HTC HD2
[HD2 Android SD Development] warrenb213:
see folks, patience is a virtue. ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Histrument:
Not trying to hate on any app, but I stopped using Titanium at my first ACA update (second install). Even with app only restore, system processes seem to get affected. If you follow Cope's instructions on placing the data image, there is no need for Titanium on a build update.
[HD2 Android SD Development] damnshah:
Amazing amazing amazing work! Definitely the best ACA i have used!
[HD2 Android SD Development] kushXmaster:
Yes. Patience padawan. It will always pay off.

;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] hensond67:
Anyone else have blurry mms pictures when receiving them?
[HD2 Android SD Development] scoobykanye:
Finally figured out why i couldnt get it to boot....forgot to delete .sdmagldr from rootfs.img file..and this is my 6th update lol

Everythings a go now and i want to thank c&w for all their hardwork....bout to hit the hay aka "test" battery drain