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[Captivate General] rahlquist:
Seriously? Lets try the docks they are selling even today that aren't fully functional until Froyo gets released. If your playing the game by the rules then they are selling something that is at best half functional there. They have stated time and time again we will get Froyo but here is the thing when the phone was released so was Froyo. After that happened what came next? Apps that were designed only to run on Froyo, and where was our update? Fortunately for those not willing to root or flash unofficial roms some of those apps have been backported.

There will always be people willing to use custom firmware, however the majority of the market will not and will be stuck with something less optimal, and I for one will make sure they don't do that based on Samsung's empty promises and PR slight of hand.

Thats because some of the users around here are intelligent enough to know that its nothing but a PR stunt. It's magicians slight of hand, keeping people enthralled with nothing while they do nothing. They have treated us so poorly for so long that someone willing to answer some questions is treated like some kind of god send? Are you kidding me? They are not reaching out to help us, they don't care about us or they would fix the issue, the reaching out it like I said to shut us up while they move more product.

Maybe the first time they have posted but trust me they have been well aware of us. A poll/thread I posted on extended batteries was allegedly being monitored by Samsung research and development back in august or September. Blah. I'm not insulting I am not pissing an moaning. Samsungs representatives told us we would be getting Froyo. Every other country with Captivate has gotten Froyo. If Samsung gave one lick about us they would release it here, whether its being held back by AT&T or not.

Patient I am, but so am I vocal. I will not sit quietly and let them continue to make a profit on peoples ignorance of the situation. My wife has a Nexus S with Gingerbread (seen in the screenshot I posted earlier) it runs beautifully there is no reason with the huge similarities in the hardware that Samsung couldn't have gotten us Froyo or even gingerbread in the 7 months since the phone has been released. Maybe you enjoy paying to be behind the times but I dont. Trust me I am filling every ear with how buying Samsung means buying yesterdays technology. I feel sorry for their hardware people because the software portion of the company is a huge disappointment.
[Captivate General] bames:
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In one sense i agree with you...IMO this is easily one of the top 3 phones on the market if not the top (when paired with the right rom)...so i don't understand alot of the hate for it or why people who are using good custom roms are so quick to want to jump ship (or at least claim they are going to) when the next "best" thing comes along.

That being said i can completely understand why anyone on stock would be very frustrated. You say your GPS worked but do not give any specifics....i have seen so many people on here say how great their gps is but when you ask them if they are talking about stationary lock speed and accuracy or tracking/turn by turn navigation you get something along the lines of well "i get lightning fast locks with 5-10m accuracy but i don't really use navigation so i can't speak for navigation". I don't doubt your phone got fast accurate stationary locks on stock as mine always has since day 1 with stock (i was locking 8-10 in 15-20 seconds, however, turn by turn nav was very inaccurate, laggy, and virtually pointless to try to use until i flashed certain custom roms (and i highly suspect yours was as well with stock). That being said my navigation is excellent with current custom rom.

On to the lag issue. I will also combine the media scanning flaw with the lag because it often contributed to lag or stalling. The media scanner was constantly running every chance it got on stock which could bring the already laggy OS to a standstill. I had almost forgotten how bad it was until my dad got his captivate last week. I took it to put a custom rom on it and wow...after using custom roms exclusively since september it was like the equivalent of being used to high speed cable internet then going back to a dial up modem.

If i was stuck on custom and had no knowledge to fix my phone with root+custom i honestly would have ditched the captivate long ago. That being said i am glad i didn't because with the custom roms i have used there isn't a phone on the market at this point i am willing to ditch my captivate for (inspire and atrix included)
[Captivate General] bames:
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you do realize they have actually confirmed the release of 2.2 now right? They being samsung.....it looks as though they may even be doing an end around att so i am curious to see if the update has any att bloatware in it.

I understand the frustration but now that its pretty clear the our devices are getting official 2.2 release and from the build information it suggests the update dropping in february...why do some seem more peeved now than before?

SamsungJohn bungled his entrance here....he apparently really did have big news to drop but he jumpe the gun and appeared to be hyping nothing so it angered many. He should have just waited and appeared with a "BANG: Hey here's Froyo....sorry for the wait". What he apparently didn't realize was that everyone here was well past the point of needing any foreplay......just get on with it already.

Sure people were hostile and flamed him and maybe too much but he shares a good part of the blame for the way he conducted himself here because it appeared he was playing games and toying with the forum.....so he is partially responsible for how members reacted to his posts.

All that being said i actually think on top of the news that samsung is on the verge of providing the update via kies i actually think john will reappear to deliver the source or at least deliver it to the developers behind the scene. While samsungjohn's debut in xda was just one in a long line of samsung blunders/fails....it looks like this is much more than just the shell game distraction many of us suspected it was and if thats the case kudos to samsung and i will welcome john back to the community with open arms.
[Captivate General] rahlquist:
Until it is released I am going to have to go by past experience. So far the experience has been Samsung telling me things I cant believe, its that simple. The President of the company could stand in front of half the world and proclaim Froyo will be released tomorrow and I would not believe it until it drops into my download folder. Period, they have worked very hard to earn my mistrust. It's really that simple.

Intent means nothing when your word is worth nothing.

Inaccurate or dishonest about release times, the result is the same they said I would have it and I don't.

Yes I see the pretty promises.. http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=559&AT_ID=356772
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
End around AT&T and have a serious breach of contract? I doubt it.
[Captivate General] TheSopranos16:
Just read through the link you sent. It says its out already but I know that's a lie since no one on here has gone nuts and confirmed. I also noticed this:

# Modifications:

* MobiTV: Renamed to T_Mobile TV

Maybe they copied the changelog from the T-Mobile release? I also can't imagine them allowing teathering as the release notes claim.

EDIT: I noticed this has been known for a while now. Still though, its amazing they would have that out there for so long and STILL not actually release the update.
[Captivate General] eelall:
And now Samsung has taken that page down...

replaced header with todays date: 16/02/2011
[Captivate General] bames:
i think they were editing the pages from the templates from the other releases.

I don't think the epic page is still up either but it had references to the captivate so it almost looked as if they were editing the t-mobile page to the captivate and then were updating the captivate page for the epic.
[Captivate General] opcow:
It sort of looks like they may be getting ready to release updates for multiple SGS devices at once. That might fit the autobots imagery SamesongJohn talked about (especially if it was a full SGS line Gingerbread realease, but now I drifting into fantasy land).
[Captivate General] Strugs:
Where have you seen a confirmation of an update????
[Captivate General] bames:
may not be a breach of contract under certain circumstances
[Captivate General] ryboto:
as for my GPS, the lock may have sucked, but magically, maps and navigation never got confused with what street I was on until the first time I used a modded rom. I'm not going to complain, it works, spazzes out invonveniently sometimes, but it works.

As for lag, I did experience it, but never the media scanning thing you're referring to, and I had a nearly full 16gb sd card. Though, the lag was prominent with multiple applications open, or after a long uptime, it still didn't make the phone unusable.
[Captivate General] bames:
the lags also worsened when more apps or data was installed.
[Captivate General] ryboto:
I didn't use a modded rom until November, so for 4 months I used the phone stock. While modded roms are smoother, faster, I still ahve random incompatibilities, or odd behavior vs stock, so there's pros and cons.
[Captivate General] javi80:
hmmm, if you google "samsung john" one of the first hits seems to be dirty dirty pron, i'm just saying, more fail?
[Nook Color General] Dragracekid:
Ive done a little bit of searching and cant seem to find a thread about this (im sure there is one but i cant find it) so my question is which of the three do you like? i know there are pros and cons to all of them but i dont really know what to go with. any suggestions?
[Nook Color General] DiscoPh3v3r:
For me, rooted stock was definitely the easiest. It's the easiest to get working. For me' froyo was still not completely usable as it doesn't include Gapps and it's kinda funky getting them on there. Then nothing really works on honeycomb (and by that I mean downloaded apps) so if you just want to browse the interwebs that's the one for you. Froyo is if you want everything Android offers, but you better know what you"re doing. So IMO stock is the easiest and the prettiest, with honeycomb being second, and Froyo being third.
[Nook Color General] DeadlyDa:
I can't speak to Froyo, but I've got the HC v04 preview running on eMMC (not SD card), and for me it is very stable.

I've got access to the market, apps seem to install fine (haven't had one fail yet, but I hear some do), and B&N works great.

Even better, the kernal included in the package I used was already OC'd to 1.1Mhz, and I'm consistently getting 1,500 to 1,600 on Quadrant.

Much better performance than I was getting on my stock Nook.

It's not perfect, and I've had to do a few tweaks (found on this site) in order to get the market working, and adhock wireless networks to show up...but for me the total install was really smooth.

The only problem I currently have is that I cannot get applications to transfer from eMMC to my SD card, so I'm running out of space to install more apps.

No way would I go back to stock...what I've got now works really well for everyday use, and will only get netter once Honeycomb goes GA.

If you do decide to "upgrade" your stock Nook, just remember that it's not a "sure deal", and that there are no guarantees things will work. While I haven't had to do so, I understand that restoring your Nook to stock is a bit of a chore, so make sure you read the "back to stock" threads before you decide to modify your Nook.

If you do decide to go with either Froyo or HC...just remember to follow instructions exactly!
[Nook Color General] djurkash:
yo, deadly, chill down a bit...nook is very hard to brick and destroy..

Since OP is here, on XDA, I suppose he knows enough to continue...

It is not so hard, trust me, pick one and try, you can start witk stock rooted...Then you will find annoying the way apps are starting, or eclair itself...So, you go and try froyo (on emmc, ofcourse), which is the closest thing to phone froyo feeling, and you'll use it happily until...One day you decide to try something new, and that would be HC...
[Nook Color General] rohit275:
Out of curiosity, what do you mean that B&N works great? Are you just talking about the Nook app from the market, or the stock B&N apps that come with the Nook when you first get it. I was under the assumption that those would be lost with any install of Honeycomb or Froyo, which has kept me from making that jump.
[Nook Color General] Dragracekid:
im leaning toward HC cuz i dont mind difficult because i enjoy doing this kind of stuff but my worry is widgets and a few apps has anyone used circle launcher or gbcoid or gameboid or any other emulator on this?

edit: also any luck on videos working? like rockplayer or yxplayer?
[Nook Color General] jonrobertd:
Rockplayer works well , NESoid works well, gonnna try pSX tonight.

Honey 4 on emmc.

@deadly read thru the emmc thread, the answer is there. Root explorer change permissions.
[Nook Color General] kwx:
As far as I know none of the alternate builds currently support hardware-accelerated video playback, so your only real option for smooth fullscreen video is the (rooted or not) B&N Nook image. If anyone has gotten this working on a different build please let us know.

Honeycomb has a few issues, for example accelerometer input being rotated 90% in some games, and occasionally tiny hard-to-read onscreen text since it's configured for a non-native pixel density to fit the 1280x800 UI on the Nook's smaller screen. It's fun for testing and ok as a daily environment if your important apps all happen to work, but you should expect things to break.
[Nook Color General] DeadlyDa:
By "B&N works great", I meant that I'm running the B&N reader from the market. Personally I like it better than the stock Nook reader.

@djurkash: As you say, "It's not so hard...", I was up and running in an hour or so. Sorry if you felt I was trying to scare anyone away. I really like what I've got...but I have also noted a bit of "HC mania", and not everyone bothers to RTFM. If someone reads through this site, and feels comfortable with the process...I hope they go for it! I'm glad I did.

@jonrobertd: I'd read through the emmc thread, and didn't see anything that addressed moving apps. I just went back through and searched on "Root Explorer" and "permissions", but didn't see anything that looked like it would help. I'm probably missing something obvious, but any assistance you could offer would be greatly appreciated (I do have Root Explorer installed and working).
[Nook Color General] kwx:
@jonrobertd, I just tried Rockplayer on HC v4 off SD (not overclocked), it runs at 12-15fps according to its built-in counter for original size, a bit slower for fullscreen video (848x368@864kbps, baseline H264 from Handbrake). Is that significantly better with the overclocked version? Currently it's usable but looks noticeably jerky. Of course, dual-booting to use the stock player would be a fallback option.
[Nook Color General] 18.4009:
I have only had my nook now for 4 days so I am in no way going to put down any build. But from a new users opinion I have installed and messed with all three releases (stock rooted) (froyo) (honeycomb) And I LOVED honeycomb.

I was happy with it for a short time though due to no flash. Youtube app was a no go and the web youtube worked but was whacky.

I then went back to stock rooted and put on ADW ex. Everything just works! I am completely happy with stock running ADW until honeycomb gets more refined.

And I cant wait for that to happen because it looks very nice and is a much better user experience on the nook.
[Nook Color General] jonrobertd:
Rockplayer is much better off of eMMC and overclocked. As to running HC off SD I

can see it being slower, as the card speeds can vary.

For root explorer, I am using version 2.13.3 it works to give R/W permissions. (PM me if needed)

Apps installing to SD, use the following:

Also I follow Samuelhaff's advice and change the permissions on newsf_msdos on the /system/bin and now almost all applications install with few fails. I did it a risky way though, since I don't have ADB access I just rightclicked the file with Root Explorer, chose permissions and click in all 9 boxes, worked for me but it may be risky.

Doing this gave the me option to move to SD. I have ADB working, was just on the nook so I did it with R.E. and it worked.

If you need any more help pm me or ask here.
[Nook Color General] mister-walter:
I have used all three (rooted stock, Nookie Froyo, and Honeycomb v4), and I am currently using a dual boot setup with stock on eMMC and NF on a microSD card. I am using rookie1's awesome multi-u-boot which allows me to choose to boot from either the SD or the eMMC at startup by pressing the home button. Stock is good for daily use, and NF is good for more cutting-edge stuff (Flash being one example). I'll probably use Honeycomb once the biggest bugs are ironed out, which will probably be after HC goes AOSP. In any case, the Nook Color has three great operating systems that you can choose from. It can't hurt to try, even if you decide to burn to eMMC instead of running off an SDcard the Nook Color is [very] hard to brick.
[Nook Color General] nebke:
I just installed Sam's custom HC for emmc last night and I have to say that this is my favorite of the three options. It runs much smoother than I expected. Overall, I was not a big fan of froyo, the performance for the most part was great but I always had touch issues and keyboard lag.

1.) Sam's custom HC v4

2.) Rooted Stock 1.1

3.) Nookie Froyo emmc
[Nook Color General] Sabre22:
I like the stock rom better, easier to root too. I've tried the HC on SD works fine but harder to setup for new nookies :D
[Nook Color General] Dragracekid:
i went ahead and went with HC last night and it is great so smooth and so clean the lock screen alone is just so nice, although i wish it had flash and rock player plays really choppy on my .avi anime but thats ok i can watch it on my phone. thanx guys for all you help and suggestions anyone that wants to post suggestions please do im sure there are people just like me looking for the awnsers this topic can provide
[Nook Color General] JohnnyDanger:
I've had my NC for a few weeks now am itching to try Froyo or Honeycomb. Something that is important to me though is the Readtome childrens books. My 3 year old really likes them. Does the market B&N appt work with these books? If not, is there a way to still use them on either Froyo or Hobeycomb (HC preferred)?
[Nook Color General] fugitoid:
As far as I can tell the Read To Me books only work on the app on the NC. But that's no reason not to try Froyo or HC. Just try one of the SD image versions. That's what I've been doing. Booting off SD doesn't affect whatever you have loaded on the internal memory. Going back to the B&N stock ROM is just as simple as powering down your NC, popping out the bootable SD card, popping back in your regular SD card (if you have one) and powering the NC back on.
[Nook Color General] JohnnyDanger:
I did not know you can do that with the SD card. Im going to see about doing that when I get home. Thanks.

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Phoenix
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Owais1437:
flashed serendipity last night, 5.7. I want to disable the lagfix (s) in it so i can flash supernova. How do i disable them? Can i just put my phone in download mode and odin to stock, will it remove the lagfix?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] a.vandelay:
as long as you're flashing a kernel that supports your lagfix, you don't need to disable it.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Owais1437:
the rom is: supernova, anyways can anyone tell me how to disable it on serendipity 5.7?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcord11758:
You do not need to but if you want to

Long press power

Select recovery

Select advanced ulk

Disable lagfix

Back twice

Reboot

select yes
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mengbo:
you may need to flash back to stock since they are based on different roms.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diablo009:
Recommended Practice when moving between ROMs: Flash stock. Takes 10 mins, but well worth it.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Owais1437:
for sure, i always do. i disabled lagfix, flashed to stock, root and all that stuff. wait till 100 percent battery and flash away ;)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] newter55:
If you are using odin between flashes it will remove the lagfix. And, I am not aware of any kernel being widely used anymore that does not support ext4 so you really don't need to worry about it at all.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] ronii1123:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=943423

Hey, can someone talented please port this beautiful theme?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] xtremekilla09:
I already tried doing this, it is not impossible, but very cumbersome. It has been made for the Theme chooser app and hence all the files are named a little differently. So all you have to do is rename a few hundered files exactly as they are in the existing framework.

I was going to do it and release it and rejoice, but all that went to **** when I saw how much work I will have to do...lol (I know I am a lazy ass!)

I will be looking forward to whoever is able to do this.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] ronii1123:
Haha, no worries man. Tis all good my friend
[Captivate Themes and Apps] kuherrm:
im pretty sure master ported this for the vibrant, idk how hard it would be to go from vibrant to captivate
[Captivate Themes and Apps] ronii1123:
Yeah he did, I tried flashing it but no luck :P
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Pikabob:
I think I've almost got it, testing now
[Captivate Themes and Apps] xnoctis93:
awesome, let us know what happens :p
[Captivate Themes and Apps] ronii1123:
Sounds great :D
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Pikabob:
the first one changes a few icons, but not much, it doesn't look very good, so I tried to make a better one and it wouldn't boot. The third one also won't boot. I have only flashed these over di11gaf 6.0. See what you can do with these.

edit: files in next post
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Pikabob:
here they are
[Captivate Themes and Apps] ronii1123:
Alright thanks man, much appreciated
[Captivate Themes and Apps] rye&ginger:
Any progress? That theme is dope. Take a look at this also. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=958788

I had flashed this port http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=958788

and knew it might not work but it did for a short while. It was a great 10 minutes and then after another theme swap I had to format and reinstall a fresh ROM. The pattern unlock theme is amazing. Offset circles...nice.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] kable41:
Im having a really hard time getting my screen to look like their screenshots...anyone else having this problem. I got some stuff to work like notification bar and wallpaper and thats about it. Im on serendipity 5.11 going back and forth between suckerpunch and speedmod...
[Captivate Themes and Apps] ronii1123:
Actually, I reposted for that theme and it was quickly ported!

And yes it is hard to get it like that
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] notoriouscwe:
So I need some advice guys. I have a rooted Eris that I'm at the end of my rope with and I'm not eligible for an upgrade until November 2011. I'm not going to buy anything off contract for full price, so that isn't an option. I have a friend willing to part with a mint condition, clean esn Incredible for $200. Should I hold out another 6 months dealing with this or pull the trigger? Thanks.