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[Captivate General] Smallsmx3:
Every manufacturer has there own touch they put on android.....and people on xda constantly work to get aosp builds up and running on these decices.....I wish more manufacturers would release untouched android for the pure experience......the options are nexus 1 and nexus s I believe....its so frustrating
[Captivate General] gunstar3035:
The Acer Liquid, Liquid E, and the new Liquid Metal thats coming out are mostly untouched aside from 2 widgets that are optional and a few items in the menu that can't be deleted.
[Captivate General] ninjuh:
Android is the base software carrier companies use to make lots of money...by adding "their own" personal touch, aka marketing scheme.
[Captivate General] mnjm9b:
if they didnt personalize it, it would be hard to justify the high prices for a product with a free OS. When the windows products are just as expensive.
[Captivate General] Smallsmx3:
Yeah but they don't even market which version of android the device runs....only the hardware....and its not like they market that its version of android does things that other versions don't......it drives me nuts....its the one downfall of android.....you can have a mytouch 3g running aosp or cm versions of 2.2 but we can't get a ****ty build of a cappy version
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
Actually, Verizon's Droid Incredible does market based on the software and what it can do.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] matthew33:
check this out...QUAD CORE Android Cpu is coming!!

http://androidandme.com/

Love my HD2....but this is tempting!!

Prob' end up keeping my HD2 and go begging on streets for spare change towards my quad core..lol

you?

matt
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Kailkti:
Iunno, saying devices packed with such a cpu by summer is sort of a stretch for me.

When was it, last year? At the CES, where nvidia showed off tegra 2 devices, and now a year later, devices are finally coming out with the tegra 2.

I mean atleast last year, they had devices packed with the tegra 2 to display how fast and efficient it was, but now, all they have is the chip to show us. It just doesn't sound to me devices with tegra 3 will be ready by summer of this year, maybe near the end of the year there will be devices.

However, onto the topic of the question of whether I will "ditch" my hd2 by summer. I wouldn't say ditch, for I plan to keep it for playing around with, however I will get a new phone, prolly.

Devices in mind right now optimus 2x (the big possibility of the camera lens getting scratched is scaring me), samsung galaxy II (iunno, seeing as how they aren't known for their support) and maybe even the atrix 4g (the inablilty to truly root the phone is biting at me)

Just wished HTC released a device on the same league with optimus 2x and etc. Then I'd be sure of which device to buy...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] solide54:
I will definitely still keep my HD2 but I will also start looking to buy a new phone around that time. The specs on the new phones are just mind-blasting (Russel Peters joke).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DeriquedeCoux:
Probably keeping my hd2 for another year until my upgrade hah.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Kailkti:
Well, one thing is for sure, i'll be very pissed at nvidia, for releasing such an awsome SoC.

I mean it took two years for smartphones to catch up the the HD2, and you're telling me that right when dual core processor tablet/phones are going to be released, a phone/tablet with 4 cores and what, with 1.5ghz for each core, is going to be released.

It justs pisses me off that if i buy a new phone now, at the end of the year, a phone that greatly surpasses it will be out.

But at the same time, the idea of quad core devices being out at the end of the year still seems too much a stretch to me.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DeriquedeCoux:
i think we all have a love/hate relationship with how quickly our phone technology moves. luckily, we all have hd2s which is still a phone many others wish to be.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] stevm:
I'll keep mine till next year,and change it for upcoming HTC Revolver
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mattfmartin:
They didn't say anything about the htc pyramid. That's definetely what I'm getting.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cam_hamlin:
Ill be keeping my hd2 for sure...with webOS development possibly around the corner ill never ditch this phone...!! U can do too much with it..!! Ill definitely be copping another phone by summer tho..that's just what I do haha...HTC_PYRAMID..??

Sent from my HTC_LEO
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] curiousGeorge:
The "quad core" is nothing but another cortex-A9. Nothing special here.

One single-core a15 at ~2ghz can mop the floor with what will likely be another 1ghz "multi-core" processor. And for what? How many apps do you know are multi-threaded? In terms of "snappiness" and response time, how are the 3 other cores going to miraculously take over or "share" a bottleneck process?

This is utter ridiculousness. There's a reason Qualcomm (and many phone manufacturers) are completely nonchalant about sticking in their a9-based 1ghz chips in phones for the indefinite future -- because in terms of general responsiveness, efficiency and clock speed of an individual core are all that matters (a case can be made for "background processes" hogging CPU time), and for games and other intense applicaions, the GPU is all that matters (in which case the 12 core GPU is a huge asset).

4 cores... probably at all at a low clock speed sharing the dated a9 architecture. If a company is willing to squander these kind of resources for PR and press coverage, fine. But if they seriously think they can compete with a true a15, it's a good thing for everyone companies like Qualcomm are playing it safe and investing in the newer a15 architecture. If a9 was 15% better than a8, then a15 is over 300% so. Choose your poison.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hello00:
Yeah I'm deff getting the htc pyramid. I'm going to give my hd2 to my gf
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] freshabp:
I got my hd2 as soon as they came out last may so I will probably be holding onto it until I'm eligible for an update.

With all these fast stable nand builds coming out and a 4.3in screen, why get rid of it?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kdelisle:
I bought my HD2 off of eBay (it went surprisingly well!). I did that specifically to play with android builds and to not be trapped for 2 years when the technology seems to be moving pretty fast.

What I REALLY want is better battery life without a quasimodo hump!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eenbox:
Keeping my HD2 until it DIES! :) ...

Question remains: what kind of software support will be created to show-off Quad-Core beauty??? Let me guess: NONE! :) Therefore, it will be the same all, same all... Only thing we may see is the 3D and graphics effects that are a real eye-candy... nothing else, as current phones can do about everything phone should do :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Kailkti:
True, no app will be designed yet to show its true potential. The same goes for all multi core processors. But remember, HTC, LG, Samsung and Motorola knows this. That's why these phones are marketed for people who want to future proof themselves.

E.g. The HD2, was marketed to the same type of people and arguably the best phone in it's time in terms of specs. However, we all know that it didn't live up to it's full potential cuz of it's winmo, now don't we? But now with android ported, and android catching up to speed with 1gz phones, the HD2 is finally proving how powerful it can be, which is two years after its launch.

Plus even if the system doesn't recognize the other cores, as well, cores, they still help in the processing, like little maids. So it's not like the other cores aren't being used or are gathering dust.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Azerox:
My HD2 will be replaced in November, i have the device 2 years then.

I must say i dont rly think about changing right now, cause i dont find any other device beter then the HD2, best device arround even till this day (imo).

Expecialy with the setup im running now.

LG Optimus 2x looks nice/promising, but in November we will probably even have more kinds of next-gen devices, ill be watching the news ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Esaj2:
I'm sticking with my HD2 as long as there are no other newer phones which gets this much support and different OS builds. What I've read, there are not single one device which would be a lot better than HD2. Leo's hardware are almost as good as every other phone on the market. So its no point buying a new 500€ device just to have a little bit better performance and worst of all it could turn out to be a model which doesn't get as much tweaks and support as HD2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Spl4tt:
normaly i upgrade to a new phone every year.

but this year.. there i just nothing wich is a REAL upgrade to the HD2.

yes sure, the Desire HD, the Incredible S.. cool devices, yea

but not really worth an upgrade

all the other new dualcore devices?

i dont want to go samsung.. so no galaxy s2 for me

i dont want to go LG, never.

only option would be the Atrix, but that one has aaaaawsome locked down software, so **** OFF

im staying with the HD2 till a device gets released wich is REALLY worth the upgrade
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tyuzkan:
quad core be very good
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] SteveDeckchair:
Downgrade?

I'm going for a SIM only plan for one year that will more than halve my monthly payments. :D

There is no phone out there that makes me think an upgrade is worthwhile for the extra spondoolies.

Viva la HD2
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Mafioso:
Yes, what exactly are you guys planning to do with so much power :confused: Barring some games( which FYI run smooth on single core galaxy S)..I don't see any application which HD2 struggle to run...

I would much rather have mobile phone with better display and better battery than this..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] karendar:
I'll so get the HTC Pyramid. My HTC HD2 is already old (Telstra hand me down) and it's starting to act up... So I'm gonna keep it as long as I can, flash it to WinPhone 7, sell it and buy the Pyramid. :D hahah. If only they make it with the 850 mhz band. :|
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] roloracer:
I personally think that no phone will be released with the quad core this year, at all! They haven't even started to push dual core devices, unless they plan to completely scrap the dual core and move forward with the quad core, but that would be a lot of wasted R&D from the companies that are making these chips. I think even though it's in the works, they'll push dual core this year and quad next year at the soonest.

And for me, I won't be getting rid of my hd2 or upgrading this year, TMOUS needs to release a dual core android device that supports 4g and it's the same size of the hd2, can it be the HTC pyramid? I hope so, I'll hold my hd2 til the beginning of 2012, that way I can decide what dual core devices are out, and what quad core devices are coming in!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] boomboomer:
It made me laugh, watching the BBC cover the story of dual core 3D phones at a trade show - yes it was very impressive running a 52" display from your mobile phone but they did mention that all the demonstrated phones seemed to die very quickly!

Until they 'fix' the battery issue (think new technology) smart phones have already reached their useful limit, if it won't last at least a day of normal use then it's no use at all, quad cores won't help - unless this could be used to reduce heat and power consumption?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] RonnyT24:
I agree. Im not really seeing anything eye catching nowadays. Now if a 7 inch tablet comes along where i can use my Tmo chip to make calls and do data ill pay whatever it costs. Im not talkin about voip either...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Spl4tt:
im now really thinking about the SGSII

i always want a phone wich have MUCH development, and look at the SGS... it has even more development than our HD2 right now.

the SGSII is THE MONSTER. Its even better than the atrix in my opinion..

the only thing that is missing in the SGSII is the dedicated microphone for active noise cancellation..

if that device will get the same development as our HD2 and the old SGS has, im switching to samsung

im not ready to wait another year for HTC to release a stupid pyramid, wich will be the same as the SGSII is..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] alexc2005:
straight from single core to quad core?

battery will last about 2 hours lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] roloracer:
Actually is supposed to be better in battery life since it will have to put less effort to process things.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Richy99:
i can upgrade middle of next month, ill probably keep this device til xmas time and see whats available then, this phone does me for my own needs and see no reason to change it

if i wanta change, ill just flash to a different os, voila its like having a new phone
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] steve austin:
Tmobile is so behind with thier phone selection hat I may have to wait. If we (tmobile) subscribers in the US had the options like Verizon has right now (incedible, Droid, Thunder Bolt) or at&t (Inspire, Atrix) I know

i

would have migrated by now. Don't get me wrong I love the hd2 and its versatility is legendary. But because the hd2 has allowed me to run Android I see how much i want to run a native android phone. I really wish T-mo would step up their game. No I wish they would get a game.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chrisgto4:
I went in there the other day. The only phone i would buy is another hd2

2.15 radio

2.2miui stock via cwm
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] steve austin:
I know. I was talking to a friend about tmobile and the hd2. Its not bad enough that they sold the hd2 running a walking dead OS like Windows 6.5, but the follow it up, the same year with Windows 7. WTF?!? Now, don't get me wrong, I was pressed to get it and i was a Windows loyalist, but that is horrible decision by me and even more calculated fail by Tmobile to its customers.

All I know is they need to get an Atrix equivalent or another high-end high powered Android phone soon. Their selection is atrocious.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] XsceneXhippieX:
ive been struggling to decide between the atrix 4g, the thunderbolt, or the droid bionic... but if a quad core (semi affordable) device is coming next christmas season in all probability i think i will be able to wait until then lol, i just hope its htc branded, and i will absolutely NOT ever rid myself of the hd2, it is an amazing piece of technology :)

and in my researching processors ive seen more often than not that battery life should not dwindle to mere hours... but the opposite, extend for hours and hours longer than a single core could manage. i read someone's post saying the battery should get better and after actually researching the idea i agree in full, less strain on processor = better battery life, look into the process management of multicore processors, you will see what i mean
[Desire HD General] dcarr622:
Hi folks,

I'm currently looking around for smartphones with 850/1900Mhz 3G that are not sold by AT&T, so that I can use them with the cheap $10 unlimited data plan on AT&T like I currently do with the Bell Galaxy S and Telus Milestone that you'll see in my signature.

I'm aware that AT&T already has the Inspire 4G, but I don't want that, because it requires the expensive, capped data plan instead of the cheap unlimited plan.

I know that this method works on the Telus Desire A8182. Can anyone tell me if this works on the Telus Desire HD A9192, or does AT&T have the full list of IMEI numbers and requires the expensive plan for even the Bell model? (this happened with the Xperia X10, folks using the Rogers model with cheap data on AT&T suddenly got bumped to the expensive plans as soon as AT&T carried the X10 themselves).

Thanks in advance :) I'd appreciate info from folks using both the A9192 or the A9191 on AT&T.
[Desire HD General] dcarr622:
NOBODY using this phone on AT&T??
[Desire HD General] ch12islee:
HTC desire hd data plan on AT&T

im using the desire hd unbranded on AT&T the unlimited 2g data plan it works well. you just need to have the APN setup for AT&T on your desire HD.
[Desire HD General] dcarr622:
Thanks for that info. Can you tell me how your device shows up (what picture/name) in your online AT&T account?

I'm very curious if this applies to the A9192 as well (I presume you have A9191 right?)
[Desire HD General] Funk2641:
I'm using the Telus version. With the correct APN, everything works perfectly.
[Desire HD General] dcarr622:
Can I confirm that you are using this on AT&T with the cheap non-smartphone data plan and they haven't forced you to get one of the more pricey capped plans?
[Desire HD General] Funk2641:
Actually, no. I'm using it with the unlimited (grandfathered) plan
[Desire HD General] dcarr622:
Well how does it show up in AT&T's database? Does it show up as a smartphone, or could you actually use it with the dumbphone plan?
[Desire HD General] anosis:
Well I am also curious if it has any impact on data plan and if we can use the A9191 Roms without bricking our A9192 phones?

I am so ready to move on from my craptivate. I have such a bitter taste about them that I won't even consider the Nexus S that is going to work on 3G in March.

Also the Desire HD brother that ATT just released is full of their usual bloatware and of course no source code to start making own roms.
[Desire HD General] ekoandrew:
Same here, all I get is 2G on the Unlimited Data plan. Wished I could be using the HSPDA line instead. But you get what you paid for. MY APN basically got set up by itself, flashed and using CM7. I guess ATT Signal for HSPDA is not on this one. :(
[Desire HD General] nomnompie:
You probably have the wrong one. The one that launched on Telus (canada) has the right bands for AT&T, the EU one doesn't.

Funk, is your plan the unlimited smartphone one or the unlimited dumbphone one?
[Desire HD General] ch12islee:
Yes I have A9191 and its just a blank picture on my account. When I called to activate I just said my phone is not US 3g capable.
[Desire HD General] dcarr622:
Good to know...I'm really hoping it's the same deal with the A9192, my brother is probably gonna buy that phone
[Desire HD General] exorz:
what was the outcome of this? did att put your brother on the capped data plan?
[Desire HD General] wjsturgis3:
I have a Rogers branded HTC Magic 32A and I'm using the $15/mo unlimited data plan that I got several years ago to support my WM HP phone. I get 3g data HSDPA service. I'm looking to upgrade to HTC Inspire 4G/Desire HD and don't know what my options are. Anybody have any input?
[Desire HD General] malocard:
Was anyone able to confirm if the A9192 uses the $10 data plan?
[Desire HD General] Darkakuma:
I'm pretty sure that the Desire HD will not be registered on ATT's smartphone and that you will be able to use it with the unlimited dumbphone plan. Just make sure that when you buy it, the HSDPA or 3G bands are 850/1900 and not any other bands.

The only reason why I'm not getting this phone is because of the 1230mAh battery life. I feel that this is way too short of a battery life and that it wouldn't be worth it coming from a 1450mAh battery on a Vibrant.

Edit: If you're seriously thinking about getting the HTC to work on ATT, I think you're better off getting the HTC Sensation 4G (Bell version) because it's more well rounded than the Desire HD. However, finding this exact phone might become a challenge because the HTC Sensation 4G is in US only for T-Mobile. You will need to find the Bell version for it to be up and working with ATT.
[Samsung Mesmerize] ual4720:
Hello,

I am looking at setting myself in android development. I am a web programmer, but I have been wanting to branch out to different languages. I was looking around and I see Android's programs are developed in Core, C++, and Java. Is this correct?

I am wanting to pitch in on the development side, but I want to get some overviews of the languages I will need before diving in.

I am basically just wanting to make sure I am headed in the right direction.
[Samsung Mesmerize] phidelt82:
Hit up the irc channel. I should be there later this evening if you have time. I would definitely like to talk to you.
[Samsung Mesmerize] Sighcosis:
Basic Dev Enviroment was put together by Phidelt.

Then there is ,,,

ANDROID

How to Create a Rom

How to Theme...

Good starting spots.. Been very helpful to me in the little I have learned so far..
[Samsung Mesmerize] ual4720:
Link to it? I'm on my mesmerize.
[Samsung Mesmerize] Sighcosis:
Freenode server #samsung-mesmerize channel not sure how to link a IRC channel.

I do know there is a IRC app on Market though.
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We can make custom HD boot sounds, system sounds.

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We do run an established business here so please allow a short time for production and mastering. This also depends on how easily I can achieve what you are asking for.

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[Android Software Development] instructor2:
Hi to this great community. (this is my first post)

i searched in forum but could not find a close match so i started this thread.

i am running a local site which offer movies in a single html page which has windows media player embed in it. viewer can select a movie from drop down list and watch it in the embed media player. but i cant watch any in my galaxy s-i9000. not only my site but there are alot of tv streams which are available in wmp format.

i have already tried firefox, dolphin, opera but unsuccessful. searched for addons too but still nothing available.

so my question is, is it possible to watch embed wmp streams on galaxy s-i9000 ? or any developer here can make one app for this problem ?