yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
that seems like a small thing to close a thread up for.

I think that thread was a suggestion, not a complaint, or rant as you said.

a pure suggestion.

and if people were flaming/trolling it, its the moderators duty, and job to handle that, is it not?

but s15, by just reading the OP, you kind of made it sound like a "DO IT NOW" like a command rather than a request, i can see how the mod would get kind of irritated, too.
[Vibrant General] da_dragon2k3:
"the_scottsmen: Obvious trolls are obvious. It's a pity threads like this can't remain civilised...I'll re-open it for now and move it to General."

The way I interpreted his statement was that the thread wasn't so much the issue, but that some of the more extreme comments were.

My personal on the button: I have no problem with it. I'm with birgertime. This site started as a winmo forum and grown into so much more. Why wouldn't they want to advertise their new sister site? ios is a huge platform and I'm sure they would like those eyeballs to head on over here. Plus those mac fans love to throw out money, like for fart apps. xda deserves money, not so much apple.
[Vibrant General] fatboy547:
Stop whining...are u 5? Seriously? Xda does not need ppl like u crying for every little thing.
[Vibrant General] draikz:
And we need less people who can't type.
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
THIS is a perfect example of "troll" "flame" and so on.
[Vibrant General] oka1:
To the Mod that closed this: This is not IRAN we do not need the "Thought Police" telling us we shouldn't express our consternation with a given product or corporate behavior. I would agree to personally attack another person is inappropriate But, the fact is; in a forum such as this we have the right to express our thoughts about these products. After all, isn't that how the development section got started by a bunch of us who were angry with the corporate Lameness and took to solving the substandard products on our own...?........ Or are supposed to be sheep and stay silent ??? Hmmmm ???

Frankly, I have seen so much worse so, why this thread you guys have stock in Apple ???
[A7 General] robbbzilla:
I installed the update 1.2 from the D man and now my mail keeps closing. I can use the gmail app with no problem but the Android mail app which I use for hotmail keeps closing shortly after I open it. It is really frustrating.

I installed a lot of apps from the Market as well but how would I know what is causing the problem??

Anyone else have this problem. Can anyone offer some help?? I am lost!

Rob
[A7 General] RojasTKD:
Did you do a wipe with the new update? If not it will at times give you issues.

To tell what app, if any, is causing the issue you'd have to install them one by one and check functionality.

Don't know what else to tell you... I hope a simple wipe and re-flash will fix the issue for you.
[Nook Color General] slackwaresupport:
ok guys/gals.. i have a nook color, i put honeycomb on it.. didnt like.. put the stock back up.. upgraded to 1.1 then rooted, then unrooted... for those of you who have it rooted, how is your battery life?? i took root out thinking that.. this is a book reader.. with gmail syncing, and all the other stuff.. it will really drain the battery.. has anyone done any comparison?
[Nook Color General] mrapollinax:
As a reader and tablet with moderate use I get 3 or so days before I feel like I should charge my Nook Color.
[Nook Color General] 27scoob:
If you want to use it as just a Ereader then just then just do that with it. If you want more root it once again ,battery life is fine while being rooted . Cheers
[Nook Color General] slackwaresupport:
im just wondering.. i mean.. do i REALLY need 1 more device to check fb.. lol..
[Nook Color General] jonrobertd:
I know the feeling, iPhone 4, 2 laptops, a tower, xbox360, wii, now this!

It's still so fun though.

As far as battery life, respectable to my iPhone 4, charge it every day. I'm running HC on eMMC, and run it pretty hard.
[Nook Color General] slackwaresupport:
yeop!!! EVO, EVO Shift, macbook pro, mac pro, imac.. WHERE DOES IT END!
[Nook Color General] jonrobertd:
It doesn't end, I have boxes full of the latest greatest technology all the way back from the late 80's, I love to mod stuff, before this it was whatever was hot at the time.

But batteries are one thing that always sucked. The Nook's isn't that bad though.

My old 8525 and my Tilt2 sucked bad, half a day and they were dead. Although I am hard on things.
[Nook Color General] woot1524:
I'm on 1.1ghz nookie Froyo 6.7.

My battery life is pretty good. I'm getting about 8-12% drain per hour of use. Though I do tend to use mine as a tablet rather than an ereader (I have an original nook for reading) and WiFi is usually on. More to your point, I don't believe rooting the original firmware will impact battery usage all that much. *maybe* a little less from more programs running in the backround, but a task killer should nip that in the butt.
[Nook Color General] al2x:
Rooted with stock Nookie Froyo .67: Use mine around 5-6 hours a day and my battery is still around 40% as we speak; I haven't charged it in two days. The battery on the Nook Color is an absolute tank, really incredible that I can use this thing as a dedicated Android Tablet at 1.1GHz... I usually use a combination of Dolphin Mini Browser/Documents To Go/Adobe Flash Player and it's mostly used for school work for my college. I'm at least asked twice a day "what is that thing you're using, it looks so neat!"... lol no joke. And to think, not developers, but people like you and I created all these custom mods, god bless them. Love my Nook Color :)
[Nook Color General] bandroidx:
rooting a device by itself does NOTHING to your battery life. A rooted device has su, superuser.apk and busybox. none are running unless you are using them. su is basically a shell which is already on the device.

You dont have to install the gapps which would cause the gmail syncing etc. but to me the battery is huge in this thing, it should last fine with that minor syncing especially over wifi.
[Nook Color General] slackwaresupport:
yes.. i understand that.. but that is what i was asking.. bc you cant have the gapps without rooting..
[Nook Color General] obelisk79:
I'm still waiting on mine to get delivered, but I'm pretty sure the battery shouldn't get much (if any) worse with root and G-apps.
[General Questions and Answers] deliriousDroid:
I seem to get a lot of corrupted zip files when downloading themes and such. Could it be caused by the fact it's wireless internet?

Sent from my SilverBullet "RootedHTCDesireZ"
[General Questions and Answers] bigdanorama:
Perhaps its a server issue? Maybe it is wireless internet that is causing the problem. Test out the same download on a computer.
[EVO 4G General] LoveisPeace2012:
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_17386584?source=most_viewed&nclick_check=1

I can't even imagine the working conditions for people to commit suicide.

The Herb Frees Your Mind
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
This is old news.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
very old news....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] FluxCapacitor:
I've just been told there is a leaked gingerbread sense rom here for the chinese version of the HD2?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=955680

downloading now
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianwuk:
Hello.

I have noticed on the X1 that when I type an SMS it lags and is slow to respond (e.g. it fails to recognise when I double space) yet when I use intenet explorer and type a URL then it works fine. Is there a replacement software I can install that replaces the stock SMS software?

Are there any good themes for this phone that makes it look like WM 6.5 or WP7?

Thanks.

ianwuk
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahmadin:
yes u can change the sms sofware with htc messaging..

and for themes... you can even change the ROm to WM 6.5 not only the theme.. because wm 6.5 is more stable n fast... http://www.826x.blogspot.com/

about the wp 7 theme u can search in this forum wp7 theme that Mskip theme and iseewon featherlight theme... its realy great n absoulutly like wp 7...
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GUARDIANBD:
Hey y'all

i have an at&t Samsung Captivate,

its really a great phone,i also use an Samsung Wave which has the same

Spec and the same glass.

i have the Captivate for 2 days and allready have scratches,really tiny one's.

i used the Samsung Wave for 6 month's and dont have 1 scratch at all!

how can it be?? the same glass (the Wave's glass feel's much more thicker then the Captivate's glass)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mengbo:
buy a cheap screen protector on ebay if you do care ...
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clemmie:
I don't think that anyone said it was 'unscratchable'. If they did, they don't know what they were talking about, I mean Corning doesn't even claim that:

http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/characteristics

It is more resistant to large scratches and pitting because it's produced more like a ceramic composite than soda glass.

Little scratches won't impact functionality, but I'm surprised people don't use cases and screen protectors these days. I have a full body ZAGG AND an Otterbox Commuter on mine. I find even the silicone cases can rub the finish off of phones a little bit.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pqee:
The thickness of the glass won't affect how well it resists scratching. It should help prevent it from cracking though.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avgjoegeek:
I beat the living crap out of my phone when its in my pocket (change, keys, etc..) and my screen is fine. You putting it in your pocket with sand paper or something? :)

And I agree this thing is a bit slippery if it doesn't have a case on it.. but the one I had was too bulky.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] egypt3:
I don't have a screen protector, I don't have a case. Had a screen protector, it was alright, but I removed it; prefer the feel of the naked glass. I would not even consider destroying the sleekness of my phone by putting it in some gross case.

I have a pocket that's dedicated to my phone. I don't drop it. I clean the screen with a fog of breath on the left shoulder of whatever sweatshirt I'm wearing. It has no scratches and is pure as hell.

My general theory is that if you don't want to treat your phone well and want it jangling around in backpacks, laptop cases and/or and pockets full of junk, by all means cover it up. Otherwise, treat it well and you won't have to worry.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GUARDIANBD:
just orderd ZAGG screen protector (10$) and Otterbox (13$) for the Captivate via Ebay

hope it works...
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ballz0iron:
what were you doing to that phone, had mine for a long time and the screen is still in mint condition, and i cant stand screen protectors, so its a good thing this screen is tough
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GUARDIANBD:
nothing...just sitting in my pocket without any sharp thingys :\
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metlmangreg:
I have had 2 captivates. One with a full Zagg which covers every inch of the phone with clear plastic of some kind, and just the screen protector on the other.

I have ORD (Obsessive Romming Disease and can be found on this site if you need to admit your disorder, lmao) and the full skin started peeling off because I was taking it out of my case so much. The screen protector itself is not completely smooth or very slick, but it seems that small scratches seem to repair themselves. I am a pipefitter so that should tell you how rough I am on phones hanging on my pocket everyday. weld splatter, dust, dirt, scrapes, rolled over on, so it must be a tough phone. I had to replace the other one because of the random shutdown issue of Captivates made before November.

My Captivate is so fast I need a seatbelt!!!

Di11i"s v6.0, Diablo's Blue Theme, Di11pickle kernel :D
[myTouch 4G General] thepza:
Can you browse and talk simultaneously with the myTouch 4G?

In strong 3G and 4G environments, I'm unable to browse the web and talk simultaneously on my MT4G.

This was never a problem on my G1 in 3G settings, oddly enough.

Should I be able to browse and talk at the same time on the MT4G when I have a good 3G or 4G connection?

Has anyone noticed this problem? Any fixes available?

I'm running Ice Glacier 1.1.6.

UPDATE: This dual use is working at the moment. Perhaps I've been in Edge networks or weak 3G for previous attempts.
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
ANY GSM phone connect to 3G+ connections should be able to talk on the phone and surf the web at the same time.
[myTouch 4G General] Daguse:
I have noticed the same issue... hmm was thinking it was a issue with my settings. May have to look into it.
[myTouch 4G General] RavenWulf:
I've personally had mixed results with this... sometimes (in E, 3G and H) i can talk and browse at the same time, sometimes no dice, but anytime I am using the stock Wi-Fi Hotspot all my calls come through and it never breaks my tether.
[myTouch 4G General] Daguse:
anyone have any update on this? I can't find anything to fix it.
[myTouch 4G General] acerunner:
I recently bumped an old thread from early dec abbot the same issue. It seems many ppl are having the same problem. I too am having mixed results. I will have 3g fine when not in a call, but once I'm in a call, data along with mms function gets killed. However, a few times I moved closer to a window and I would get the 3g icon back. So I can only chalk it up to reception. it seems being on a call somehow effects 3g reception. I don't have a technical explanation for that though.
[myTouch 4G General] shlongwoodian:
I had this issue back in late 2009, using a G1 then. TMO was only giving the Orlando area about 800 kbps down, but voice + data should still work. My actual 3g icon would vanish as soon as I got on a call.

TMO opened a ticket to have a field tech check towers, but I never heard anything back.

A coupla weeks later, Orlando had an outage. I went into a TMO store to see what was up and to gripe about the outage. We were given two, free CliqXTs. Shhhh, I said they were GIVEN to us. :) (and I will stick with HTC devices from here on out.)

Well, same issue. We then put in the NEW SIM, as opposed to using the one I got with my G1 in 2008, voila! My fiancee had the same issue. Swapped her old SIM, voila!

So for me, it was an issue with how the old SIM worked on the network (or didn't work).

Nonetheless, on a GSM network, concurrent voice/data should be possible, so if it's not a matter of just poor coverage in your area, I would go to a TMO store and/or call customer care.

[[[Ice Glacier beats Rock ~ via XDA App]]]
[myTouch 4G General] altroy2:
It works for me, even when I use it as a wifi hotspot at Starbucks (Because it's better than their free wifi ;). I'm able to call and txt and browse the net and receive calls while I am browsing on the laptop. It's very nice IMO
[myTouch 4G General] ELBdelorean:
It's weird because it didn't work for me on the stock ROM but it works fine on CM7.

Sent from my DeLorean using a Flux Capacitor
[myTouch 4G General] shlongwoodian:
Do you still have a backup of your stock ROM before you went to CM7? If it's "something inside the ROM," then it should be an easy test.

Since the hardware obviously didn't change, it almost sounds like a APN or Mobile Network settings issue. Can you compare your stock to CM7 and see if there's any difference?
[myTouch 4G General] athakur999:
Sometimes if you're on a voice call for a while, you'll drop down to 2G. When that happens, your ability to do simultaneous voice and data goes away. If you're mobile data indicator goes away while on a call then this is what's going on. You can verify under the the "Network" part of the "About Phone" screen.

You can mitigate this somewhat by setting your phone to 3G only mode but this can cause it's own set of issues. If your phone wants to move to 2G because of signal quality issues but can't because you have it set to 3G only mode, your call might end up dropping altogether.
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
So new sim cards solved your issues? Did your data speed/coverage improve at all?
[myTouch 4G General] shlongwoodian:
@Phate - In that particular incident, yes, the new SIM resolved my issue. I had the issue on my G1 and then TMO gave us two free CliqXTs to retain us. We used the same SIMs from our G1s and the issue persisted. I called back in to TMO and they recommended using the new SIMs, as they said they'd seen issues with certain "older" ones.

From that point on, we could browse and talk. Prior to that, you'd see the 3G icon vanish while you were on a call. As soon as you ended the call, the 3G icon would come back.

Our speed then was around 800 kbps down, which isn't blazing fast but it's definitely more than EDGE. Once we got the new SIMs, the speed was still at 800 kbps down in the general Downtown Orlando area (keep in mind, this is early 2010). Over the next few months, the speeds got better and better and then we ultimately ditched our CliqXTs when the Glacier became available.

So in my case, Phate, the SIM resolved our simultaneous voice/data - it did not increase our speed, not explicitly.

Hope this helps!
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
It does help, thanks. I've been using the same sim since my Samsung e315 flip phone.

Maybe it's time for a new one, lol.
[myTouch 4G General] Daguse:
@ Phateless, Did you happen to try a new sim? did it help anything?
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
Nah, service hasn't been bad, was just curious if it would get better. Never followed up on it.
[myTouch 4G General] Daguse:
I tried everything I could think of then broke down and went to the store today. The guy restarted the phone insisting that would fix it. Even when I told him I do it all the time. Thats when he blamed it on the custom rom due to the boot animation I have on it. I reassured him that its still the same rom, so he wanted to wipe it. Told him I tried it and no go. I had already told him I just wanted a new sim and he refused to even look at it. So at this point I asked for the manager. First they I told the manager was I could not get data and voice at the same time and I wanted a new sim. He popped the sim card and said it was only a 3g sim (kinda odd cause its a sim from a wing and could get H.)

Long store short he gave me a new sim and it works fine. So make sure you don't let anyone know you have a rooted phone... the idiots like to think thats the reason for all the problems.
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
With all due respect I wouldn't even walk into a T-mobile store with a rooted phone.

At the bare minimum I would nandroid back to stock rooted rom before going in.

Sent from my HTC Glacier
[myTouch 4G General] vabeachfc:
I never had that problem back in the day with my g1
[myTouch 4G General] Daguse:
yeah I know... I kinda was just hopping he would look at the sim. Even before he rebooted and found it was rooted he insisted it was something else. Its all good phone works great now!
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
Rooting does void your warranty so they are under ZERO obligation to provide you any kind of technical support. If they support a product they have a right to be able to predict its configuration.

Rooting may be 100% legal but it still voids your warranty. Would you expect a dealer to warranty a car after you modify the engine? No.

In the future do not expect them to talk to you if you are rooted.
[myTouch 4G General] excarnate:
Rooting does not void the warranty

No, it does not void the warranty. You are wrong, at least in the US.

Did you ever even READ the warranty? I did, it is very clear.

Read the warranty, PM me if you think I'm wrong, and then go clear up any posts where you put out this misinformation.

BTW, I have no trouble using the web and talking at the same time. Both over the phone network (3G, 4G, Edge) and via WiFi (at home, at different locations).
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
With HTC or T-mobile? Can you quote the section you're referring to? Maybe the physical phone warranty is valid but I'm pretty sure you forego all troubleshooting from them if rooted. Call T-mobile and ask.

Would love a link to the material you're reading.
[myTouch 4G General] acerunner:
so i talked to tmobile tech support about this issue. They said that it is a "feature" designed into the software to save battery life. If you are on a call and your data connection is idle for more than a few min, then the data connection will disconnect. However, if you begin to use data at the beginning of your call, the data connection will remain.

I haven't been able to confirm if this is true. But I'm curious, for those that say they don't have this problem, are you running stock firmware or some other ROM?
[myTouch 4G General] tdtylert:
hmm I wonder if they were talking about just the mytouch because I never had this issue with my g2, but with my mytouch happens all the time.
[myTouch 4G General] Daguse:
I get that. I just think the guy was a bit rude to me, even before he found out it was rooted. They may not have to support the phone cause of root but the sim is something else. I think the guy was just unhappy that I would go in and tell him what my issue was and what I wanted to do to resolve it with out asking. The manager knew the phone was root he knew my request and got it done. He also said that it was a common problem with the newer phones. But as a response to your car then, if the seatbelt broke then yeah I would expect them to fix it. ;)

@tdtylert Stock rom stock firmware with root new sim fixed the issue can surf and talk with no issues or delay.
[myTouch 4G General] excarnate:
Why should I look it up for you? Don't be lazy. If you had tried to find it and couldn't, I'd be glad to help, but if you don't even make the effort, forget it. BTW, it is very easy to find the warranty information.

As far as "forego all troubleshooting", that isn't what you originally said, is it?

Anyway, I doubt T-Mobile would forego all troubleshooting because a phone was rooted. One reason I picked T-Mobile is the quality of support they provide. It is the main reason I didn't get a Droid X to match my wife's phone, even though through her I'd get a substantial discount (making it cheaper than T-Mobile).

My experience, with rooted phones, is that if a rep is diagnosing a physical problem, they don't concern themselves with software unless it interferes with their troubleshooting. But I'm not going to call them and ask for their policy on troubleshooting, here is why:

1) Don't be lazy. You want it, you get it.

2) Having worked support for many years, I know that isn't a question that will get an official answer from a front-line rep or even a supervisor.

3) Having worked support for many years, I know that even if they have a policy, they are going to want to keep it to themselves so they can retain flexibility with customers. I'm a good customer, I get flexibility and service from them that I'm surprised and pleased at.

4) Other (unspecified as I have to get back to work).
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
You're the one making a claim counter to everything I've heard from T-mobile so I don't think it's unfair to ask you to prove it. T-mobile has always told me they won't support rooted devices as have Pandora and other companies. Tell me, what's the difference between a void warranty and lack of troubleshooting support?

EDIT - Not trying to come off snarky or arrogant, just discussing. Hope I don't come across that way. :)
[myTouch 4G General] jjlean:
Ditto....