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[HD2 Android SD Development] geenyous:
Baseband

They are referring to the drain that goes up after a call, more precisely after the proximity sensor triggers a screen off. I had it once after I charged the phone. But not the next time. So not 100% reproducable, but not 100% solid either.

A completely different question, I again had a look at my bros hd2 yesterday with typhoon NAND build, his top drainers are, exactly like on the defy of my gf, "Display" and "Calls". Me (regardless of the kernel), I always have either "Cell Standby" or "Phone Inactive" (or, but only maybe after every 3rd boot, Android System). They both are also (I know, there are lots of differences) on 2.3.4 Cyan. Is this a SD related issue?

I have also read in the defy thread, that a wrong baseband might cause high drain and there build comes with a baseband switcher. The idea is similar to the gps, once it knows aproximately where you are the next fix is a lot faster. Apparently if you have the baseband set to the "wrong" region, its constantly scanning and looking for antennas (on different frequencies?) and that drains the battery obviously.

Have you ever heard about this or is this baseband switching motorola related?
[HD2 Android SD Development] ukdutypaid:
Warren, I can confirm that Bluetooth HID works straight out of the box, with the latest build. That's with either my old trusty Stowaway/Thinkoutside keyboard, or a Geyes 108e. Additionally my Sony MW600 stereo headset works too!

I've tried about 13 SD builds before and only Pongsters had managed the bluetooth..

Quick question though. Your additional files for previous builds worked too. Does that mean that if it was applied to ANY build bluetooth would/might suddenly be activated with them too. i.e you've got the secret magical HID files!

Nuff Rezpek!

keywords for any searchers: bluetooth hid, BT HID, blue tooth, keyboard
[HD2 Android SD Development] ukdutypaid:
uninstall programs/duplicate icons?

Warren,

5th of July build seems to boot faster, certainly HARET flies...

One question though. There seem to be duplicate icons (Car Kit?). One is 227k and the other 4k, they both seem to do the same thing.

Is there anyway I can uninstall/delete one of them and which one, anyway?

Also, is it possible to uninstall some programs anyway? For example I really like 'Go Launcher'. I actually prefer it to AWD launcher.

Also, I'm not sure of the benefits of having a partitioned SD.... I did have one (8gb, with a 2gb partition from an HD2 Nand Android build) and com.google.process wouldn't load with Android American...?
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
You dug up an old post for your reply above this one. You will find many references to the Google car home apps and choice of launchers if you search.

Briefly, both apps are required if you want the Car Home function.

You can use whatever launcher you choose. You can even use multiple launchers and switch between them with Home Chooser Flow (great for testing them all).

The best place to look for advice on partitions (and many other things) is the FAQ
[HD2 Android SD Development] geenyous:
Base

Nevermind, I just found out that HD2s don't have basebands, we have Radio ROMs.
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
I'm currently testing 2.12.50.02_2 based on Z80-Man's advice.

Here is what he has to say about 2.15.50.14

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15251134&postcount=35523

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15278032&postcount=35532
[HD2 Android SD Development] jason370:
That's in Europe, might it be a different result in the US?
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
Yes, it might be a different result in different continents and countries, but Z80-Man is from Noumea, far from Europe and the US and anywhere really :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] rfox:
Confirmation of higher battery after call . .

I have successfully updated to 07/05 and it is quite stable and quick. On idle my device was hanging around 9mah for several hours - but after a normal call, it hovered around 104mah and would not go down anymore - regardless of whether the device is sleeping for some time or not. So instead of having almost 1.5 days of use without recharging - I am getting not even a full day.

That's been my experience so far . . It's still worth it because this rest works fantastically! :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] kushXmaster:
The led problem has been known for a while now. I'm not sure exactly why though...either way they have been working on it because it has gotten better with each release. Best thing to do is either just wait or grab LedMeKnow off the marketplace (its free)
[HD2 Android SD Development] retsam88:
I don't know why people are having 60mA issue. I don't! Sometimes after call i got 60-70mA drain, but only for a while. After another sleep it goes away.

Also, used new data.img, made sure to check if SD is NOT corrupted.

Many ACA versions later it's still 7mA after standby.

So this possibly is problem on the user end.
[HD2 Android SD Development] kdelisle:
+1. I also noted that my battery use went up after a call, to about 60 and then returned to a lower draw but it took a long time. I haven't had time to look at my current widget log to find out how long that is taking.

A gentle reminder that for most new builds, its really impossible to say how the long term battery drain will be. I have always found that it takes days for the phone to really reflect normal, consistent lower draw.
[HD2 Android SD Development] geenyous:
Radio ROM

Hmm, not too sure if that guy is really credible after still beeing on wm6.5 with ACA around. :D

Please keep us posted on your results, since reading about the baseband I believe it would make the most sense to use the radio that was meant for your region.
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
Fair point, but he is also a WP7 hater and does have a good technical knowledge of the HD2.

I can't find any info as to which Radio Rom is designed for which region. The stock one on mine was a 51, so that's no use.

Most people go for the latest (highest number), which is not necessarily the best for them.

I didn't have issues with 2.15.50.14, but 2.12.50.02_2 is working well, so far. It's a case of finding the one that gives you the best reception as it is a win/win that good reception = low battery drain.
[HD2 Android SD Development] hecatombercm:
I did, and its Done...and there is improvement, but its negligible. Overall still very very low max volume compared to other OS's.
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
There are so many variables here, that it is impossible to compare.

Even if we were all running the basic build with no additional apps or widgets, the results may be different as not all HD2s are equal (TMOUS/Euro), we could be booting from MAGLDR or from one of the many WinMo Roms. We all have different signal strengths and this is a big factor. We may be using different radio roms.

Battery drain can become an obsession - think how much battery you are using by constantly checking your battery drain ;)

Reports are useful, however, as the high drain after a call seems to be experienced by most users, but I don't remember it being an issue before.

I had a constant high drain overnight, which I have put down to skype. I use Llama to shut off all data at night, so just the standard phone radio is in use. Because it can't find a data connection, skype is in a constant loop of trying to connect, causing the high battery drain. Signing out of skype or leaving the data connection active, both fix this, but neither are ideal.

The chances are, if you have high battery drain, it is an app or combination of apps not playing well together that cause it.
[HD2 Android SD Development] shamez23:
You are using the data.img from another build.

That may work but usually it doesn't.

It's like trying to use the 14" wheels of your old FIAT car on your new Landrover. Of course they are wheels, too but very different ones and the Landrover won't take you anywhere with them.

You can use a clean data.img that some builds offer, if you don't want to wait for this build to create a fresh one at first boot but using a used data.img is a bad idea.

A data.img from december also means it's quite old. Many changes happened in the last 7 months. 7months are an eternity in this bussiness.

Backup your apps and maybe your sms and calendar with titanium backup. No settings and no system files(the red ones)!

Let the build create a new data.img and restore your backed up stuff.
[HD2 Android SD Development] prattjo:
Music Player

I am with the 07052011 version and after using the included music player my phone freezes and I have to take out the battery. Smoetime it happens after 5 minutes sometime more. I had the same problem with the 06302011 version too. Is this a know problem or had anyone the same problem?
[HD2 Android SD Development] yoramk:
bad gps lock

i have a long gps lock in the last builds 10-15 min

in winmo it takes 3-4 seconds

anyone can help?
[HD2 Android SD Development] iPAQ 6515a User:
Just the first time it is long. Then it settles in if you're in North America. If not you have to make some changes - there is an info on that about 20 pages back.
[HD2 Android SD Development] raphy82:
Just one day my android stop working and i always wanted to try another build.

So the opportunity presented itself and i thought "what a hell" =)

So i can not do any back up and will be very angry if i lost everything.

That´s way i´m turning to you guys for expert help.

There has to be a build out there that can take my Data.img file.

Thanks
[HD2 Android SD Development] hensond67:
Battery drain on this new build is VERY minimal for me. I'm using the Mugen battery and I get 1% drain per hour on standby and some web browsing.
[HD2 Android SD Development] nygmam:
Probably have to reinstall your old build, but you shoudl invest some time learning how to use Titanium backup, that way you can keep everything backed up so when a problem arises, you can start fresh, and reinstall your apps. I doubt this build will let you use your old Data file, as the above example put it very well, you are probably stuck with digging up the old files you used 7months ago. Heck, I don't even think a 7month old data.img from this ACA line of ROMs would even eork on todays ROM, so the chance of your old one working are slim to none. Besides, is the old version even gingerbread??
[HD2 Android SD Development] PabloEscobar:
After many calls with genuine headset battery drain 5mah ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] yoramk:
bad gps lock

i read something here about "gps.conf"

i dont have such file in my sd card

do i need it?

i am not "north american" :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] kushXmaster:
I'm getting a steady 11mA drain with the latest release. Awesome.
[HD2 Android SD Development] peterjr1:
mines all zoomed out how do i fix?
[HD2 Android SD Development] zarathustrax:
Well, I'm about to Re-do my entire WP7 partition, so once I get that setup, I'm gonna setup ext3 and linuxswap partitions to use with this build. I'll report back about whether bkup2sdext works for me while dualbooting wp7. I don't see why the wp7 would effect the android partitions at all, so hopefully everything will work correctly.
[HD2 Android SD Development] docent14:
Enumerating only
[HD2 Android SD Development] ataf:
i just installed APNDROID to avoid data traffic, but it is still connecting to 3g

i am getting furious if there is no way to stop connecting to internet
[HD2 Android SD Development] ataf:
ok problem temporary solved this way:

I am back to vers. 021811 (with gps)

Battery drain is also turned to normal again
[HD2 Android SD Development] alaindev:
I really don't like the way you are reporting this.

Again, as Docent told you yesterday, nobody forces you to use this build.

There is an explicit warning on the very top of the very first post :

can be unpredictable and sometime unstable. We take no responsibility for what you do or what happens when you do it.

That said, there is truly a problem with data traffic, and I will report soon.
[HD2 Android SD Development] ataf:
stop that polemic

i do not like the way making this to politics

there is no issues in my words

when bored, go to the playground

all other post helping to develop this release

but there is not only one post from you with the same intention, all your post are fawning or driving people on each other

so look after your own interests, and let the people help getting this fantastic release even better than all other
[HD2 Android SD Development] alaindev:
issue with 3G data trafic even when disabled

Copenhagen, Warren and Docent,

please believe me, I have made several experiments, and I can confirm this issue :

sometimes, even if data has been disabled, there is still 3G data traffic going on.

Here are the steps to reproduce this :

1. Disable data - in Settings/Wireless&networks/Mobile networks

2. Verify there is no more data connection :

a- the 3G and arrows in the top notification bar are hidden

b- market or web browser : no connection

c- power widget : the 2-arrows icon is greyed

3. Turn on Wi-Fi

4. Verify Wi-Fi connection with Market or web brower : OK

5. Turn off Wi-Fi

6. as soon as Wi-Fi turns off, the 3G data connection is back, even when all indicators show it is still disabled

a- the 3G and green arrows in the top notification bar are displayed again

b- 3G traffic is really going on (the green arrows are blinking, you can browse the internet or go to the market)

c- but the power widget still shows data as disabled (the 2-arrows icon is greyed)

d- but in Settings/Wireless&networks/Mobile networks the Data enabled box is still unchecked.

All the experiment is performed on my fresh and clean install of FEB24c build : after re-formatting my 3 partitions FAT32, ext3 and linux-swap, and no custom data.img from older builds.
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
=D yeah I tried :( no luck
[HD2 Android SD Development] JustX:
Wow people are retarded. Getting rid of button savior only has been explained about 30 times in this thread and about 100 times in the old thread. STFT... Search the fxking threads people.

No one should be furious at anything. If your English is not very good... spend extra care in how you word things. Cause you'll sound like an asshole and wonder why no one will help you.

If you have trouble with partitions, then run it the simple way. Sheesh.

Sent from my Gingerbreaded HD2...
[HD2 Android SD Development] JustX:
Have you messed with the power control widget options at all? That controls how data responds to wifi being turned on and off.

Just an idea...

Sent from my Gingerbreaded HD2...
[HD2 Android SD Development] zarathustrax:
Yeah, this is the biggest issue I have with this release. It's causing my battery to drain fast because wifi turns off during standby, so my data pops on and keeps trying to connect, and since I have no data plan for it to connect to, it just keeps trying and causes battery drain. I hope a solution is found for this.

Thank you warren and copenhagen for all your great work. Other than this issue, this is a great build.
[HD2 Android SD Development] alaindev:
Yeah, funny, I've seen your insult just after having spend a long time trying to help debug this issue.

I don't care for myself. But have you ever, just by politeness, tried to read the last 20 pages or so ? and found that I helped nobody ?

While I did found almost none of your own posts trying to help another user who had a problem.

"Welcome to the jungle" is the greetings I have received from Docent when I first arrived... Cheers if you're there, Docent.
[HD2 Android SD Development] docent14:
Always, my friend, always ...

I am getting bored - and without help people like you and few others, those topics soon gonna look like giant banner: "LED?DATA?ANGRY_BIRDS?W7"
[HD2 Android SD Development] alaindev:
No, because that's the other side of this issue : the power control widget options do not tell the truth. And its the same inside Settings/Wireless ...

Here again from my previous post :
[HD2 Android SD Development] docent14:
I must admin, I didn't pay attention to this manner. I personally use Power COntroll bought from Market, and my 'mobile off' relies on renaming apns.
[HD2 Android SD Development] docent14:
I can confirm that, even with PowerControl Plus. But in scenario:

- wifi on, 3g off

- and now we : wifi - off, 3g off

Connections stays - look like there is no termination to it.

But, when in PC mode, APNs are renamed again:

- wifi on, wifi off (with 3g off)

Connections is terminated and unable to connect again (renamed apns)
[HD2 Android SD Development] JustX:
So when you guys say that data is still on, do you still see the icon changing and showing activity even though it should be off or it shows as off but still has activity going going on?
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
+1 this is what I thought also.

however, i dont magldr it up so.. i have no experience in this area to draw from.
[HD2 Android SD Development] zarathustrax:
I still have the icon up on top changing from E to 3G even though I have data turned off in settings. It seems to be draining my battery quite a bit, too... especially with it bouncing from E to 3G because of the bad signal inside my house. It shuts off once my wifi turns back on... I'm gonna set my wifi to stay on during standby for now while I'm in my house, because that will probably use less power than the data trying to connect does.... but that's not going to help me when I'm out where there's no wifi connection.
[HD2 Android SD Development] afr33s:
GPS Lock

Open the startup text file and add gps_zone=## to the set command line mine looks like:

set cmdline "rel_path=Android nand_boot=0 gps_zone=uk"

and then you should get a faster lock. seems to work for me.

## is your country's two letter international identifier. You can find more on this subject if you search XDA. ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
nope. the build does not read gps settings from the startup.txt

please remove your post above as to not lead other users to think the startup.txt and gps have anything to do with each other. This has come up.. been squashed.. and come up over and over again

people. the startup.txt does not relay gps information to the build.

if you want to make changes to your gps region... you have to do it in the gps.conf file.

/system/etc/gps.conf

you have to use an editor with root access to make changes to the file.

again... covered again and again.

word. word word.
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
wanted:

we're looking for a new logo to replace the htc boot logo you see when you launch android. (the black screen with green htc written across it)

pixel depth 8bit

size 480x800

submit a .bmp and ill convert to rle.

submit via forum post.. and we can all vote on which one we like

anyone up for the task? everyone is welcome to submit anything (within reason.. you know .. all professional like n shyt. lol) but seriously.

there's got to be a good graphic designer around here with 1.3+ million views....
[HD2 Android SD Development] iPAQ 6515a User:
OMG it means you did it. You know how to compress the file back :D
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
;)

+++++++
[HD2 Android SD Development] bitwister:
I've experienced this, as well. It started after a Google Maps update back in about April. I'm using the 2.15.50.14 radio. The last time we needed some navigation help, I held the HD2 in front of an AC vent while me wife was driving. If you can keep it cool, it won't lock up. I will probably try a different radio. uzi2 posted (#11817) a couple links that I plan on following up on.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Nemesis2k9:
I still have 60mA drain! Whhaaaaa!:(
[HD2 Android SD Development] cariocap:
Hi all,

Just to let you know that build AmeriCanAndroid 070511 supports AVRCP.

It's working perfect with my Sony DR-BT22.

Congratulations.
[HD2 Android SD Development] dumbquestion:
I have used a mini Bluetooth keyboard (just smaller than my phone- got it at Frys for $19) for several months now, and have been able to use functions like next, volume up/dpwn, menue, etc as well as text input.
[HD2 Android SD Development] AmeriCanAndroid:
i can get you the exact day we fixed it... lol... one sec. this ones easy.
[HD2 Android SD Development] AmeriCanAndroid:
25th April 2011, 11:48 AM

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=13194138&highlight=cope+i+just+had+this+happen#post13194138
[HD2 Android SD Development] mv:-):
New logo

not that i'm a graphics designer but will the new logo still be htcs or will it be americanandroids (whether a redesign or same)?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Indianer:
@bitwister:

I had the same Probs with my HD2 and it was the Hardware.

With the new one i got on warrenty all these Probs are gone, no more restarts or crashes.
[HD2 Android SD Development] dttung80:
:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
.. at this point it could be a cute bunny with ford branded on its behind.

although it woulndt really fit, and probably wouldnt be a fan favorite by any means. :)

the sky's the limits.

htc DOES have a logo permenantly displayed on both the front and the back of your device.

ACA has its name on the boot animation..... same with cyanogenmod.

so .. the only thing that is left is.......

"Android"

:).. but again... this is / should be a community decision.. so i leave it up to the majority to pick
[HD2 Android SD Development] raphy82:
Okey, we must move on because i can not stand using Windows...

Were do i find a compatible 1 gig data file ?

Or does it generate one it self after a put android folder in my SD card and click on C and H ?

Thanks
[HD2 Android SD Development] mootmetal:
i just installed wm ... and after copy the americanaandroid to my sd card ...but when i load it from wm it stuck on the green htc logo ...in the first post they said first boot might be long but more than 30 mn and nothing happend ...is it long enought? please tell me the average of the first boot
[HD2 Android SD Development] JustX:
Hey Cope, does the HTC logo replacement have to be cooked in or can we add our own ourselves?
[HD2 Android SD Development] rfox:
Down hill from here . . .

I just wanted to share my experience with 07/05 release - like I said previously, it works like a charm (performance and stability) but after a call, battery drain is immense.

Started the phone new. I charged my phone to 100% - watched it stay at 9mah for at least an hour - then I made one phone call (voice box) - killed all running apps and turned off for the night . . . Overnight the batter sunk down to 20% (see graph) - mostly from phone (cell standby) :(

I am using latest Energy ROM with latest radio (2.15.50.14) which I never had a problem with up until now (even with previous ACA releases - I always have WiFi and Bluetooth off unless needed - and always kill extra programs before I turn phone off.

I appreciate the hard work of Warren and Cope - and thankful for their excellent releases.

ACA has been fantastic on my HD2 and it's been a fun ride, but to be honest, I have been eyeballing a new Samsung Galaxy SII for some time now - and may retire my HD2 soon.

I am convinced that Android in general is a great mobile OS - but tired of fighting with my HD2 trying to get everything to just work. It has been fun (no complaints or regrets) - but time to move on . . .

Thanks again!

R.Fox
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
I quote my vote :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] cporeaux:
Same vote but with a green HTC...
[HD2 Android SD Development] der_mattin:
Last! :-)

Martin
[HD2 Android SD Development] prashanthm:
I second that........., the globe one with a green HTC logo should look good......
[HD2 Android SD Development] prashanthm:
pwhitrow, this looks cool..., but why did you include South America as well? :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] pwhitrow:
'cos I'm from the UK and got it wrong ;) Will update...

Done.
[HD2 Android SD Development] TheNT:
Here is quick fix...

http://www.darkyrom.com/community/index.php?threads/guide-gps-quickest-fix-solution.2022/

You need ES explorer in root mode to copy that file in your system/etc folder.

Edit:

Cope And Waren maybee you could provide this somewhere in begining of topic as quick fix for GPS location?

tnx