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[Vibrant General] Mannymal:
I find alarming that a lot of people in these threads think of Samsung as some sort of benefactor. An overlord that we must strive to please or else face the consequences. That is the exact opposite of what it should be.

We don't need to please them with diplomacy as if we owe them something. They simply have to treat us like clients and thats the end of that.

I can't believe some of you feel that we must appease a paid employee and thank him for doing what he is being paid to do. What is he gonna do, quit his job because the whole XDA collective is not getting on its knees for him.

An advice to Samsung, and SamsungJohn: stop talking, and start acting. A good start would have been a post saying: "Hi, I'm a representative from Samsung. Here's a source code and some other tools you guys might find useful FOR IMPROVING OUR PRODUCT. THANK YOU!"
[Vibrant General] funeralthirst:
that. right. there.
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
Jesus that's myopic. Samsung doesn't need anything from us, we're just a tiny minority of people who have bought their phones. They clearly think there's something to be gained from forming relationships with devs, which is why SamsungJohn is here and not Android Central or a more consumer oriented site.

You want source? Great, I'm sure that's what Krylon and Supercurio are telling them. Like adults. And I'm sure they're also explaining how timely source release can benefit Samsung as well, instead of demanding it or crying about how we're owed better support.

Because in the end, he doesn't have to be here and Samsung doesn't have to do jack about helping XDA because they'll still sell a ****-ton of phones regardless. If you can't understand that there are things we want from Samsung and it's not "appeasement" to try to get them, I have no words for you. It's not like we're holding all the cards and some horrible fate will befall Samsung if they decide this is too much of a headache.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
The bawwww session will be in full force, this forum is just full of too many people that would rather *****, moan and troll
[Vibrant General] Joshochoa187:
Wow how come the mods here don't just ban ALL of these flamers instead of closing threads
[Vibrant General] Pig Vomit:
Samsung brought this on themselves by releasing a phone knowing that GPS didn't (and still doesn't) work and not offering any sort of reliable remedy to the problem.

Another big problem, for me anyway, is the lack of Outlook sync support through Kies. The initial Vibrant manual said that Kies could be used to sync Outlook....and I read this BEFORE I bought the phone, because this feature was important to me. Unfortunately, this wasn't true. And the section having to do with syncing through Outlook was removed in later versions of the manual released AFTER I bought my phone. I should mention that I hate clouds.

They only promised Froyo....it was late, but we eventually got it. For the most part my phone performs at an acceptable level, and were it not for the GPS and Outlook issues, I would probably be considered a satisfied customer. I'm quite comfortable with flashing ROMs, but at the end of the day, I (and probably the majority of users) just need a reliable phone that does what it is supposed to do. The phone was SUPPOSED to have reliable GPS and Outlook sync support. It does not. After making phone calls, these two features were at the top of my list of what was important to me in a phone.

I waited patiently for fixes, with the reasonable expectation that these issues would be addressed in firmware updates. This pushed me past the 30 day return period. I feel stuck and ripped off.

Post questions about these problems on the official support channels, and you get non-answers. When I made a review of my Vibrant for the Samsung site, it included a section discussing, in a non-flaming manner, the lack of Outlook sync support. The review was rejected as not meeting Samsung standards. How can this be viewed as anything other than a deliberate attempt by Samsung to hide the problems with their phones?

Yes, the heat index on the SamsungJohn threads was a little high, but he/they could have just waded through the flames and answered the many legitimate questions posted by customers. Instead, it was easier to do what Samsung has always done with the Vibrant: turn their back on their customers' legitimate concerns and questions, and act like nothing's wrong. This behavior is what makes customers legitimately angry. Angry customers make angry posts.
[Vibrant General] megatherian:
XDA is FULL of trolls, flamers and people with fragile emotional systems. This is nothing new - just look at any popular thread on this site. Everyone knows it but the site stays popular because the vast majority know how to look past all that stuff and move on to the good posts.

Why XDA would call the current situation a "failed experiment" and then just pull the whole thing is a bit confusing. Do they not read their own Forum? Do they really not know what to expect? Even SamsungJohn should have known what he was getting into had he just read 10 random posts he would have known what this community is like. Instead they just say that the community failed so no presents for us. That's what's BS. XDA is treating it's entire member base like 2 year olds when they could have easily made this work by putting in a little effort and just heavily modded that ONE thread. It wouldn't have been that hard to do for just a single day. I guess they'd rather just blame the community and be a part of the problem instead of the solution though.

Thanks XDA, trolls win. I hope you are happy with what you have built.
[Vibrant General] emonero:
1+..well said....Hopefully XDA will create a private forum so the devs and samsungjohn could share ideas and opinions like adults!
[Vibrant General] n2ishun:
I suppose it slipped by you guys....

SamsungJohn shared NOTHING.

He specifically stated that he could give no input on software or hardware.

So.....

Do you still have fantasies about crotch nibbling with him, or would you rather blindly support hope and change ?
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
No, HE could not, but he's certainly a gateway to the people who can. Jesus, how old are you? Do you live in a basement? Do you understand normal human interactions?

Why are you so childishly expecting some godlike CEO to step in here and fix all your problems NOW? Is that realistic at all? Don't you think these relationships have to start somewhere. Do you think Supercurio is getting anywhere with Samsung by declaring "Eff you all if you don't give me what I demand"?

And what if he can't personally deliver anything? Is that now the starting demand? "**** you, we only talk to Don Corleone, not the messenger"?

And what's with the guy going on the long complaining rant? Dude, we bought the phone too, no need to lecture us. LOL.

Seeing posts like that and this one by n2ishun just reinforces for me that too many XDAers alhave underdeveloped frontal lobes. Instead of actually thinking about this stuff, it's all primal emotion, hurt, anger, rage, lashing out at me with some "hur hur you must like his **** hur hur" nonsense.

It's all nonsense. There's nothing to be gained from lashing out at me or the XDA mods or SamsungJohn. All it's doing is giving you an outlet for some infantile tantrums.
[Vibrant General] n2ishun:
I would expect at least one answered question from him.

It certainly appears you think that is asking too much.

The dude got up in everyones face saying "hey I have some really big things for you all" and then ....well.....and then NOTHING.

Then he said right up front that he couldn't give anything.

No source, no gps fix, no info on the radio, not even a simple spec that was asked of him.

So.

There YOU sit with your glass of Kool-Aid.

How's it taste *****?
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
Why are you so belligerent?
[Vibrant General] PaiPiePia:
~He be trolling, we hating, everyone's flaming....flame flame flaming~
[Vibrant General] treyvaporizer:
You forget EVERYTHING that samsung sells .. tvs computers monitors and a bunch of other stuff.. not all of their mindset is dedicated to the sgs line... they make tons of other phones ... so yea if they are taking the time to reach out and help us.... I think we should listen

Sent from Bionix powered vibrant! If I helped, hit the thanks button!
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
TV's dont require upgrading (except apple TV and Google TV).

Microwaves don't require upgrading

Computer Monitors don't require upgrading.

Phone's do.
[Vibrant General] funeralthirst:
bluray players do. internet tvs do. refrigerators do/will (samsung has/is coming out with some with touch screen lcds and run pandora, twitter etc.). cameras can/do. and on and on...
[Vibrant General] GreggoryD502:
So is samsung john gone or whats the deal with him?

Powered by Axura with a dash of Voodoo
[Vibrant General] nomadrider123:
was he even real?
[Vibrant General] n2ishun:
That IS EXACTLY the point.

All these soft hearted people that have never experienced the other side of the front door are falling all over themselves for some dude that can't give them ONE thing.

Not one thing he did proved he even worked for SlamBung, but a few people said yea, he's for real. Exactly what are thier credentials to prove such ?

I don't know about anyone else, but I did not see a @samsung.com email posted or any one other thing.

If he was for real you KNOW he would have been more than happy to prove it with a email or corporate phone number (you know slambung does have a 800# that is real easy to find....I mean google would give that out, why not post it ?).
[Vibrant General] BruceElliott:
I could not have said it better myself!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Supovitz:
Mocked up a quick script to push Swype to my device, and added a bit to uninstall all the system apps I don't like everytime I flash a nightly

Can anyone tell me why the uninstall part fails? part fails?

cd "C:\Program Files\Android\android-sdk-windows\platform-tools"
adb.exe devices
adb.exe root
adb.exe push Swype.apk /system/app
adb.exe push libSwypeCore.so /system/lib
adb.exe uninstall /system/app/VoiceDialer.apk
adb.exe uninstall /system/app/Email.apk
adb.exe uninstall /system/app/SoundRecorder.apk
adb.exe uninstall /system/app/ADWLauncher.apk
adb.exe uninstall /system/app/HTMLViewer.apk
adb.exe uninstall /system/app/FileManager.apk
adb.exe uninstall /system/app/CarHomeLauncher.apk
adb.exe uninstall /system/app/GenieWidget.apk
adb.exe uninstall /system/app/Talk.apk
adb.exe uninstall /system/app/GenieWidget.apk
adb.exe uninstall /system/app/LatinImeTutorial.apk
pause
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KCRic:
I assume you're running the script with command prompt since it uses adb and points to the sdk on the c drive.

Well first, adb is simply adb - not - adb.exe. That should get you started. Also, after adb devices you'll need to replace 'adb root' with 'adb remount' or just run it in a shell so you can use linux style commands since you'll be writing to the /system. You're on the right track though.

You might also consider making a flashable .zip instead that you can run with clockwork. I made one for swype that worked - haven't tried it with 2.3 which uses updater_script and updater_binary format as opposed to the update_script and I can't remember which one I used:rolleyes:

If you want, I can try to make a .sh script (run through android terminal) or hopefully modify my swype installer zip to delete those apps and install swype.

Try this, it should work. Unzip the file and double click on the test.bat file with the phone plugged in.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Supovitz:
Thanks for the reply, yea I was making a bat script.. I tried different combos of remount/reboot too..

It doesn't matter, adb.exe or adb.. It pushes the files fine, but for some reason can't uninstall packages using the uninstall command
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rotaha:
Hi

i have brand new i9000m 2.2 jl2.

i cant conect to my gmail or to the market

it keep saing :cant establish a relible data...."

i did factory reset... same thing

what next?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thecrucible:
I am going to assume that your mobile package supports data so just double check your APN settings to ensure that they are correct for your carrier.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] holmern:
I use my phone for work email, and on my computer I have all my incoming email organized into folders.

After setting this up on my phone I receive all the email that comes to my inbox that does NOT go into any of these folders.

How can I make my phone display the email that is received in the folders as well?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CCallahan:
Not sure which service you are using to receive mail. If you don't already have it download K9 Mail and use it. Way better than stock email client.

If your using something else maybe this video will help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OMzXS9RR-A
[Android Software Development] hyperbyteX:
why wont some of the sounds that Im using play on the emulator? Most of the sounds IM using but for some reason other ones do not, even though they work perfectly when I test them on media players
[G Tablet General] ajkid93:
The default music on tnt lite seems to play a different song than what it says it is playing. At times it works and then it changes the song in the middle of the other song. Is anyone else experiencing this?
[G Tablet General] ocyrus99:
I've had this same problem... I used the winamp player for a while and it doesn't seem to be as bad.
[G Tablet General] pbrauer:
i also had the same issue and switched to MortPlayer
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
As you know we have root access, and believe the root exploits will work on the production devices.

However I do not believe we will have perm root on the production devices.

We are seeking volunteers willing to assist, by testing a method once the device is released. A risk of bricking exists, and the volunteer will assume 100% of that risk.

Requirements:

1) Will be getting a thunderbolt on or shortly after release

2) Ability to follow directions

3) Basic computer knowledge (ability to use command line would be nice)

4) Have the sdk installed, or be willing to install it

5) Understand the risk of volunteering completely. (ie know bricked phones no longer work)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] reukiodo:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the other post, you show a photo with SHIP S-OFF at the SPL level... so is this not permanent?

Perhaps I am confused then by what you mean 'perm root' in this case. Do you mean a engineering SPL?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
If you read that whole post, you will understand its a pre production device (see the lack of verizon branding?). That is why we had s-off. Production models will not likely have it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] coolsilver:
I currently have a touch pro 2 with nand loading xdandroid.

I would be happy to test though, I would rather not be the first brick. LOL

But in the sake of root, I might be willing to risk it. Considering the success rate.... I would say the risk would be high I am sure many precautions will be taken to prevent a brick.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
With current ideas, risk is near nothing for one. Other one is slim. (in my opinions)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] coolsilver:
I am sure once the device is in hand tests will be done prior to flashing.

HTC phones are pretty good about not permanently bricking.

I will be trying it out.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rotorocker:
I just have a quick question as I am coming from having a D1. How easy are HTC phone's rooting compared to the D1? I used the super one click root, I have to research HTC's methods now.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
D1 root was rather easy, so was HTC back then. No longer is this the case.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] karnovaran:
I'm still 50/50 on getting it right when it comes out since I'll be paying full retail and we don't have a confirmed price yet. But otherwise, I meet all of the criteria. I actually tested the rage exploit on the Droid 2 first and had to write up the adb commands for others, so I'm comfortable working my way through some hackery.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] superchilpil:
full retail if its like what BB posted ($750) then its cheaper to cancel your current contract and buy it with a new 2 year for $250

so thats 250+350=600

If you have a current contract
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tedturnner:
I will be picking a tb up as soon as they say go at a verisimilitude store and no matter what phone I have I can never go more than a day or two with out root. I need the ability to have freedom even if I can't change anything. Just the thought of having it keeps me going. As for knowledge I had the droid first and did everything you could to it and now I am running the fascinate on 2.2.1 that samsung and verizon still haven't released, so I am not the best but learn as I go.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] wanderingrobot:
I'll give this a shot.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nillabob:
since the RUU's are already out, it should be fairly easy to get correct most problems right?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] bmcclure937:
Yeah. It is cheaper, but then you are still stuck in contract... and one year down the road you will need to repeat the same cycle.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] superchilpil:
It's no big deal for me
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mike919:
JCase I have a fascinate now, had a D1, and a DX. I'll be getting my thunderbolt the day of as i preordered at best buy. My twitter is Mike91908 I'm down. this is my first HTC device though, but i have all the know-hows.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jcase:
cool beans, I think we got something good.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mike919:
Sounds good. if you need me, hit my twitter or gtalk mikeandjill919 and i can get on IRC.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] banderberg:
Do you still need volunteers?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nscott69:
Count me in
[Captivate Themes and Apps] MrSub:
Have any of you guys used this NetFront Life launcher. I just downloaded it and it is pretty cool. You just have to figure out how to move the apps off the ring and place them. I got it figured out. If you need help.

The exact name from the market is NetFront Life Screen
[Captivate Themes and Apps] flashman2002:
No launcher shows in the market. Please post a link to see what the launcher is. Or take screen shots.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] MrSub:
Sorry I am considered new and i can't post links in the forum. I will get the exact name. I am in the middle of a flash right now.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] MrSub:
Ok the OP is edited with the name

NetFront Life Screen.

Google it for pictures.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Kaik541:
I actually did see this a while back, but I constantly kept getting "app not found" errors. I even found it on app brain and using the QR code still didn't work. Found other apps by net life and looked at the developer page for more apps, and it didn't show up there either. I just searched again though and indeed, there it is. So if you can't find it, it's likely because of your market fingerprint.

I'm currently running Cognition 3.04 with the Market 2.3.2 (recently updated woo) and I can install it.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] daleaf:
I downloaded this launcher and gave it a test run. All I can say is that it is not ready to be used daily as my default launcher. It's a cool concept, but can lag at times, and is a bit annoying when trying to cycle through apps in a hurry.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] chrisz5z:
Its definitely an interesting concept but needs more options to customize it. For example, the space for the widget is a pre-set size....and you can't change the icons. Noticed it used around 45mb too :p
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Kaik541:
you can definitely change the icons:

just grab the top half or so and scroll to the left page and there's a cube for apps. the only time I see this thing really lag is when going from the right page to the left page.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] kingmaker1985:
Just now tried. really looks good. But donno how to go to menu

:mad:
[Captivate Themes and Apps] uhmump95:
I used to have this launcher, but I got rid of it because it became slow and it forced closed all the time.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] NOSintake:
Def a cool launcher, but I can't see myself using this as my default launcher. Maybe after some updates this thing will really take off
[Captivate Themes and Apps] waghoba:
its a nice concepts but eats a lot of memory...lags a lot....
[Captivate Themes and Apps] max_82:
I like the UI but need more update for lag issue.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ottoman1384:
Specifically Ice Glacier and CM6 and 7.

I know the Pros but I searched all over the place and can't find some Cons. I know CM6 doesn't allow access to front facing camera. Is this true for 7 and Ice Glacier?

What other things might not work?

TIA

P.S. I am rooted. I just don't have the guts to Flash a rom yet.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lilzone:
I am running cm7 nightly #37 I think and the only thing that I am noticing is that my ringtones dont stick after I do a reboot. Other than that I use Tango and the front facing cam does work. I dont see any other things that are not working. I have been running this only for a couple days and maybe not seeing other things not working. All in all the rom is fast and I am loving some gingerbread!! Do a nandroid backup so you can always go back if you want.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheBiles:
There are zero cons to installing ROMs. CM7 is just fantastic.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Killbynature:
Cm 6 you can use the ffc
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ottoman1384:
Forgive my ignorance but what is the biggest difference between CM6 & CM7?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kline:
Froyo vs Gingerbread, I think, but don't quote that as I don't run a CM ROM.

With any ROM you will roll the dice on what will/won't work for you. I have had absolutely zero issues using the Ice Glacier ROM in my sig. However, if you read recent posts in the thread for it, some people still experience issues with things like WiFi, slowdowns, battery drain, etc. Not all silicone is created equal. Just backup your current stuff and flash something to see how it works on your phone. Doesn't run well, has some issues? Pick a new ROM or restore backup.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jggimi:
cm 7 is based on Gingerbread -- Android 2.3. Numerous changes, Google for them.

Big con to any ROM...bricked phone through user error, user stupidity, user ignorance... Take your pick. The risk is low but it exists. Manage and mitigate it through careful study and a firm grasp of the procedures to be used.

HTC Glacier running CM7 #37
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ottoman1384:
Thanks for the info. I agree about doing the research before anything. That's why I haven't flashed any roms yet. I still need to do some more research.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheBiles:
It is extremely difficult to permanently brick your phone. The only way I know how to do it is to flash the wrong kind of radio, which you normally don't even have to worry about flashing.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jggimi:
Let's see... there's a thread in this very subforum where someone damaged the partition table of their internal flash drive, and lost /system, and could find no way to recover:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=952272

The root cause may have been from pulling the battery at an inopportune moment, and the OP gave up before exhausting all options, but the phone is logically bricked.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhjmonnee:
Hardly any unless you're not careful with instructions. CM7 RC1 is fantastic. ;)
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lockback:
Does anyone see problems with 4G coverage with a newer rom, or is HSDPA not a concern?