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[Android Themes] turdbogls:
Still can't believe the isn't something as good as this available yet.
[Android Themes] xplosi:
Amazing! any developer? :O
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
I'll give it a try. This is how my attempt looks like right now:

[YOUTUBE]Pv8BixtR1gk[/YOUTUBE]

What do you think? I'm not quite satisfied with the effect and will try tweaking it until it works better.
[Android Themes] turdbogls:
Amazing! Where is the apk? Lol..in all seriousness,this is already about 200%better than the others out there now.

How well do you see this working without a gyroscope Though? They got it working with just the accelerometer as I have seen this on a 3gs I believe
[Android Themes] METHOD1911:
Robber that's nice man are you going to post the apk. I like that.

Evo 3D in full Affect
[Android Themes] treUse:
Looks amazing :)
[Android Themes] Breezer23:
Would absolutely love this!
[Android Themes] calebv2:
That is so perfect I can't wait to use it
[Android Themes] DominatingSystem:
@FPRobber

Damn...i can´t wait testing this amazing app...

i hope the release not taking so long...;)
[Android Themes] Bluewall:
I'm throwing my money on my screen but nothing happen :(
[Android Themes] formaldehyde:
Looks great, can't wait to see the release!
[Android Themes] Habarug:
I think it looks awesome just as it is right now!

sent with love from me to you
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
Thanks for all the positive comments. I'll continue polishing it a bit and adding a few options and hopefully release it tomorrow. I'm still not sure if I want to make it free or sell it for 1€. Also I'm not sure what I'm gonna call it. My internal code name has been DeepAnd, but I feel like I should come up with something better. :o

The first version will only work on phones with gyroscopes. I'll look into using only the accelerometer but I'm 99% sure it will be far worse than with a gyroscope.
[Android Themes] Jocutz1987:
Nice its so smooth an it moves like a compass cool thanks good find
[Android Themes] lordcloud1:
Please post the apk. It looks awesome!

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
[Android Themes] K Dotty:
Looking good :), Great Work!!

Sent by wigglin my big toe
[Android Themes] sotodefonk:
nice, cant wait to test it... I hope my cellphone has a gyroscope :P
[Android Themes] spidermaxx:
This is what I've been waiting for, I'll sell it if I was you, as you've put all the hard work into creating it.

Let us know when its released :)
[Android Themes] Pfeffernuss:
Maybe make a free version with a fixed/non changeable background and/or less options and a version for €1 with all bells and whistles (like background, speed, amount of movement etc.)?

Please release the €1-version soon as I... want... it... NOW! :D
[Android Themes] Freddan80:
Just release with a cost add more functions and release a smaller version for the cheap at a later date.
[Android Themes] Jason123420:
Nice

Insanity CM
[Android Themes] shockem:
wow thats really really nice!
[Android Themes] Jocutz1987:
Its posted on page 4
[Android Themes] tlongren:
I can't find it anywhere in this thread. Don't think he's released it yet.
[Android Themes] lordcloud1:
Nope.......it's not.

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
[Android Themes] MrWilliams2:
Shut up and take my money!!! Please update us in this thread when its released. Thanks!!!
[Android Themes] jayharper08:
Wow. That looks stunning :D

Sent from the MIUI powered 3d
[Android Themes] Freddan80:
I don't know why but I feel the need for this background and I don't even like live backgrounds.
[Android Themes] formaldehyde:
It would be so cool if you could set an LWP as the wallpaper in this app. That way us LWP lovers wouldn't have to live without our current wallpapers and we could still enjoy this awesome effect!
[Android Themes] torres76:
The app on the market was bad didnt work even the slightest bit its a shame could be cool....
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
I agree, that was my first idea, but it's nearly impossible to do. :(

By the way, my app is out now!

[YOUTUBE]2euzBxcW-bk[/YOUTUBE]

https://market.android.com/details?id=at.robbert.deepand
[Android Themes] cchant:
aww no free version?
[Android Themes] kausti:
How does that work? Does it sense how you turn your phone or is it working like the Nintendo 3DS by using the front camera to recognize how you look at it?
[Android Themes] turdbogls:
It gets its info from the phones gyroscope
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
Sorry, but I don't know what I could remove for the free version and it cost me a lot of time and 25$ to even release it so I have to make money of it somehow. :(

It's only using the gyroscope to measure how you're turning it.
[Android Themes] dverson:
Trying to buy/install it from the market link, but it says it's not compatible with my Droid X (running CM7). Any idea why?
[Android Themes] spidermaxx:
I just tried this out, but out crashes miui every time I try and select a wallpaper. Works perfect on the default one, just not any I choose :(
[Android Themes] minty1978:
Just purchased...I am your first review.

Great work...can't wait to show my iPhone using friends.
[Android Themes] Chilled26:
Its working perfectly on miui for me.
[Android Themes] MrWilliams2:
Not compatable with my X2 running Eclipse... :( I've been waiting on it all day... bummer. Is there anything you can do?
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
It most likely lacks a gyroscope.

That's strange. Can you post logcat output?
[Android Themes] MrWilliams2:
The X2 has a gyroscope... afaik.
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
The only Droid that has a gyroscope is the Samsung Droid Charge. :p
[Android Themes] ferhanmm:
Is the galaxy s vibrant not compatible?
[Android Themes] MrWilliams2:
I see that now. I was reading specs from a pre-release review. Thanks anyway.
[Android Themes] Shad88:
It's said the same for me :( not compatibility with my GS.

(I'm on MIU)
[Android Themes] Freddan80:
Same here, and using Miui on a sgs2. The default DeepAnd wallpaper runs great but are kind of fugly but when trying to choose a custom paper I get a fc.
[Android Themes] calebv2:
My fascinate. Running cm7 says its not compatible why I thought I had a gyroscope
[Android Themes] ferhanmm:
Isn't that an i9000 in the developers video?
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
It's a i9100 (SGSII).

Again, please send me a the logcat output and I'll fix it tomorrow (it's 0:12 am here)

The Nexus S is the only Galaxy S-based phone with a gyroscope.
[Android Themes] spidermaxx:
"That's strange. Can you post logcat output?"

Let me know how, and I'll post it.

Going to try and instal it again, then reset my phone, see if that helps.
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
You can use the app aLogcat to display the log output. Run it right after my app crashes and look for red text. If you can see that then press Menu->Save log.
[Android Themes] xheavymetaldadx:
Damn incompatible with the thunderbolt :-(
[Android Themes] Jocutz1987:
Are you serious just go to the market and type look around live wallpaper
[Android Themes] dverson:
That's incorrect, Look Around is the one that was available earlier and has since been labeled as crappy. The name of this app is:

3D-effect Live Wallpaper

If it doesn't show up in the market on your phone, then it's incompatible.
[Android Themes] Jocutz1987:
Ooooooooh sorry nice but yea not compatible. With mine either
[Android Themes] SineOtter:
Whoa, just purchased this and I have to say that it's pretty awesome. Two questions though!

1) Would it be possible to have it also support wallpaper scrolling or proper wallpaper cropping support? That would be icing on an already awesome app.

2) Would it be possible to also have the app recognize what the device orientation is and adjust to match? If it moves fine in portrait, it won't in landscape-Switching off the X/Y swapping seems to decide which orientation will work right and which won't. This of course might be pointless if wallpaper crop/scrolling can't get worked in-It'd be hard to have a wallpaper that looked good both in portrait and landscape if you only had one size option.

*EDIT* Actually, a third question too: Option to "smooth" the gyroscope's responsiveness? It's kind of twitchy, and being able to say average a few 'frames' would probably smooth it out without killing responsiveness.
[Android Themes] ferhanmm:
: (

make it use my camera? (rear please)

lol will probably suck battery
[Android Themes] Dunc001:
Bummer, showed up in Market on my phone so I bought it but it doesn't work :( Then I figured that my HD2 (no gyroscope I now discover...) is running the latest Runnymede ROM and market thinks it's something else :p My bad! Keep the purchase price, app looks great so I am more than happy to support. Don't suppose there's any chance of g-sensor control as an option...
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
1) Yes, that would be very possible and will come as an update in the next few days.

2) I'd do this by using a different zoom level so it also works in landscape mode. When developing the app I never used landscape and didn't notice how weird it behaves in non-portrait. That fix will be part of the update too.

3) I didn't experience any twitchiness on my SGSII. What device do you have? Anyway, it's really hard developing a feature without being able to test it and since it's not twitchy on my phone I can't guarantee that I'll be able to add that. Although I will probably try adding it as an optional feature.

Using only the accelerometer would work for rotating up and down, but I'd have to use the magnetometer for rotating left and right and I think that is just too inaccurate. Although I haven't tried it yet, maybe I'll experiment with it next week.
[Android Themes] Pfeffernuss:
Ofcourse I bought it, installed it, and can't stop looking at it :D

Works great (SGS2, Kitchen KI8 Rom), thanks a lot! :)

[Edit] Will report if it drains the battery within an hour or so or with any bugs/improvement-tips ;) Oh, and love the name DeepAnd, very clever!

Okay, first "bugs" :)

* When re-selecting a user-defined wallpaper it's not registered. You have to press Reset wallpaper and afterwards choose your own.

* Some wallpapers, depending on image resolution, are being squished horizontally. For example when using a photo from the camera.
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
I noticed the first bug too, but then I fixed it. :confused: I'll look into it again

The second one will automatically disappear once scrolling is working. :)
[Android Themes] Pfeffernuss:
I am using QuickPic as gallery-app. Don't know if that's the issue...

Here it most certainly does not :) (using GoLauncher as home-app. Unfortunately using a live-wallpaper makes the appdrawer lag with this launcher, but that's not your fault ;) ).
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
1. I'll try that out, but I can't imagine it causing any problems.

2. I meant when I implement scrolling (in an update) it will be fixed. ;)

Edit:

Still works using QuickPic. I have no idea what's causing this. :o
[Android Themes] Pfeffernuss:
Ah okay, small misunderstanding also ;)

Hmmm, odd. Deinstalled app, rebooted, installed app, same issue. No biggie though ;)

In the meantime (prior to the scrolling-fix), what is the optimal aspect ratio of a wallscreen to zoom/display properly?
[Android Themes] DominatingSystem:
Desire HD incompatible...damn..thats sad..will it work any time ?
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
The same as the screen. So in most cases 3:5.

No, it's missing the gyroscope. :(
[Android Themes] xat.mobile:
I don't have an SGS2 (or a phone with a gyro) but I do have a suggestion. How about adjustable z-depth and image layering? Like images further back have a more pronounced movement.

It could be good with natural scenery I imagine.
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
Depth is already adjustable, but I really like the layering idea. I'll definitely experiment with that.
[Android Themes] formaldehyde:
After setting DeepAnd as the wallpaper, changing the background image doesn't work. Otherwise it's a great start!
[Android Themes] Fustigador:
I also bought this app, can someone provide a link for nice wallpapers to use with deepand? I also have panoplanet and that app has a lot of wallpapers in data base and that makes a good experience with the live wallpaper.

Thks
[Android Themes] SineOtter:
Maybe calling it twitchy was the wrong term. It's almost like it's overly sensitive! Doing my best to hold my Nexus S 4G still will keep the wallpaper moving in little short movements this way and that. It's still smooth, it's just that it's a noticeable movement when the phone is otherwise staying still.

Thanks for the responses though! I can't wait to see the new update.
[Android Themes] TechNoir:
Mentioned earlier, select reset wallpaper in the app, then select a new wallpaper of your own, if you have the same problem it should solve it.

To the dev, I gladly threw some humble coins at you, this thing looks slick as heck already. Works wonders on an SGS2. Thanks for the work and for sharing! :)
[Android Themes] dave2:
Any of you guys have the perfect settings? I'm trying to get the best settings for a more effective display. I have a Galaxy SII, so everything works fine. And also the best wallpaper? I find scenery most effective. Just still not getting the best 3D effect though :/

Just needs a fixing up on the image quality a little. But it's a great start! When I saw that you released it, I bought it in a heartbeat.
[Android Themes] Freddan80:
Regarding the Miui problem alot of us seems to be having, you can solve it with the help of another gallery app. It's not Miui DeepAnd has a problem with it's Miui gallery, so downlod quicpic and choose your DeepAnd background from there instead.
[Android Themes] spidermaxx:
This solved my problem, as you have mentioned, it's the stock miui gallery that causes the crash.
[Android Themes] yabbb:
So, using infuse 4g which I'm pretty sure has a gyroscope, and the market says I'm incompatible, any other way I can buy/test this app?
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
For some reason the Android Market says all kinds of the Galaxy S 1 are incompatible (excluding the Nexus S). According to Wikipedia they should be supported. I already sent the APK to an SGS1 owner to let him test it if it works, but he hasn't replied yet.

I'll install MIUI this weekend and try to find the cause of the crash. Thanks for narrowing it down to the MIUI gallery. :)

I still have no idea what's causing this but I will just automatically reset and set the new wallpaper in the new version instead of overwriting it in the current version. That should fix it.

That's what the depth setting is for. Set it to a lower value and it will move much slower. :)
[Android Themes] rinxas:
Great app just bought it...wonder if you could implement an option to crop pictures...otherwise we gottta use 480x800 papers right?
[Android Themes] Pfeffernuss:
I find the result to be the best (sharpest) when you use a wallpaper with the same aspect ratio as the screen (3:5) but with a higher resolution, like for example 600x1000. This way, when you zoom the image it remains sharp(er) instead of very pixelated (which is logical as you have to zoom the image to be able to scroll it around ;) ).

So I just made some 600x1000 and 900x1500 images and these work great. At least much better than default 480x800 wallpaper images. YMMV ofcourse.
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
Exactly. I'm working on an update though so it doesn't stretch images with the wrong aspect ratio anymore. Images that aren't wide enough will just be zoomed in more and images that are too wide will scroll left and right like a static wallpaper does. Hopefully I can release it this week.
[Android Themes] vukandric:
Could you please check a PM from me? I can't buy your app directly from the market but I can pay via paypal. Please, I really like this app and this is what I do with other developers of paid apps. :)
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
I didn't even notice I had 4 unread PMs. On other forums there's usually a popup notifying me about them. :confused:
[Android Themes] yabbb:
I pm'ed you concerning your reply.
[Android Themes] samsfamous:
doesnt work on my HTC Thunderbolt Cm7 and my Motorola Xoom Wifi :/
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
It's not supposed to work on the Thunderbolt, but it should work on the Xoom. What doesn't work?

Edit:

Just released a quick update to fix the image selection and image distortion issues. The wallpaper scrolling feature isn't included and I'll release it separately later on. I'm not sure when it will go live, it's in the hands of the Market now. :D
[Android Themes] mehappyz:
Why is this app "not available for my device"?

My Droid 2 Global has a gyroscope...
[Android Themes] Chilled26:
Yea something needs to be fixed here because I bought the app which worked great then I changed roms and now it says not available for your device..
[Android Themes] samsfamous:
It installs but I can't find it on my Xoom to even set up a wallpaper :/
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
The Droid 2 Global definitely doesn't have a gyroscope. I haven't found any source saying otherwise and the Market usually doesn't lie either.

I just defined that my application requires live-wallpaper support, a touchscreen and a gyroscope. Google does the compatibility checking. It's most likely your ROM's fault.

I haven't tested it on honeycomb because I don't have a tablet and the emulator doesn't have a gyroscope. But I'll try if it's even possible to set it as the wallpaper on the Honeycomb emulator when I get home.
[Android Themes] mehappyz:
That's my bad I read something wrong.

So why does this app need gyroscope as opposed to accelorometer?

What does the gyroscope provide that you need, position in space?

Seems to me that you could use just the rotation data....i.e. "the phone is tilted 2 degrees left, so move the wallpaper X pixels to the right" or whatnot.
[Android Themes] Gh0stw4lk3r:
I already mentioned that to the author, I hope he can adjust this wallpaper to also use the accelerometer instead of the gyro.

The live wallpaper VR tunnel also has this concept and is working with the accelerometer.

I really like this wallpaper and would buy it instantly if i could use it :)

I have tested it on the I9000 but that one doens't have a gyro
[Android Themes] punshkin:
As far as I understand:

Gyroscope tells what angle the phone has and how the phone sits in the air.

The accelerometer is for acceleration, it tells you only movement in space, but no exact tilt of the phone it self
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
The gyroscope measures the angular velocity changes on any of the three axes, the accelerometer only measures acceleration. Since not falling is acceleration in the opposite direction of gravity it's possible to calculate the rotation on two axes and the magnetometer for the third axis, but the magnetometer isn't very accurate compared to the gyroscope and the math to simulate the gyroscope using the accelerometer and magnetometer is THE HORROR (at least for me). D:

As far as I can tell VR Tunnel is only using the accelerometer which means it doesn't work if the screen isn't facing upward to some degree. Try holding it in a 90° angle to the floor and it will stop working. Considering it's only using the accelerometer it's very impressive though.
[Android Themes] mehappyz:
I thought the accelerometer showed X and Y axis tilt and Z axis is a "gravity sensor". This is why autorotate works on phones w/o a gyroscope; the accelerometer can detect what angle the phone is at and rotate the display accordingly.

This is seen through recording the sensor output, usually the x and y axis output changes with rotation and then stays at the value representing the current tilt, while the z axis stabilizes at 9.8 m/s^2, which is acceleration due to gravity.

Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
Every axis is a "gravity sensor" in an accelerometer. It's in portrait if the y-Axis has the highest acceleration and in landscape if the x-Axis has the highest acceleration and if the z-Axis has the highest acceleration it's lying flat on it's back (or front).
[Android Themes] mehappyz:
Ah, just read your post, makes sense now.

Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL
[Android Themes] Gh0stw4lk3r:
True.

when upheld in a 90° angle the up down motion stops, left right still works though.

but when i hold my phone i rarely hold it in a 90° angle.
[Android Themes] punshkin:
The accelerometer can tell how to turn the screen because it can calculate by "which axis feels how much gravity"

This is way less accurate
[Android Themes] xat.mobile:
@FPRobber could you perhaps post the wallpaper you used in the example video you are using in the android market entry?

Also I'm curious to know what kind of depth/zoom settings people are using.
[Android Themes] Chilled26:
+1
[Android Themes] Italia99:
Dont work on Galaxy S!! :(
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
Sure :)

http://www.mediafire.com/?2oc0ogr340qit0e (it's a collection of lockscreen wallpapers)
[Android Themes] demoniac51:
Possible a version demo ?
[Android Themes] Marcell96:
why would somebodey want this?

on my ipod it slowed down evrything and lagged like hell,

it's also not that accurate....
[Android Themes] Pfeffernuss:
Because it is friggin' cool?

Well on a Galaxy S2 it's quick and smooth like crazy.

Buy a proper device next time.
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
I just released 1.2 which fixes a few force closes. I'm sorry that it took so long, real life got in the way :(

I've been thinking about it, but it's hard to remove some features since there is only one feature: 3D effect

And it's also practically impossible to add ads. Nobody wants ads in their live wallpaper :p

What do you mean by your "ipod"? It's an Android app :confused:
[Android Themes] demoniac51:
@fprobber : it's possible for ads. Mario live wallpaper uses admob ads in mode invisible or in menu setting.
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
I'll look into it, but please don't expect anything soon.
[Android Themes] demoniac51:
you can find the full code to put easily on internet
[Android Themes] TifKag:
Now all we need is a Sub-topic where people can post theire settings, and backgrounds, that deliver the best visual experience.

And i hope developing is kept up.
[Android Themes] sohebq:
I want to have it for SGS. Plz do something. Thanks
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
These work very well:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1106779/lockscreens.zip
[Android Themes] DannyBiker:
Works nice on Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1v although it could need more options. And less DeepEnd references. You may want to avoid any legal issue...
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
Which DeepEnd references? Except the name of course. :p
[Android Themes] relldroid:
I wish it worked on more phones, even if to some point using an acelerometer to create the effect doesnt work to 90 degrees it would still be cool to use.

Also removing the ability to use custom wallpapers is more than enough for a free version, they will get the concept yet be limited to the biggest customization option for a wallpaper. Idk just saying.
[Android Themes] FPRobber:
There are already a lot of DeepEnd clones that use the accelerometer out there and DeepAnd doesn't work better because I'm a better coder (I'm not :p), but because the gyroscope is much more precise.

I'll most likely release a free version with custom wallpapers disabled though. It's already being pirated a lot and I hope this makes a few people try out the free version instead of pirating.
[Android Themes] Pfeffernuss:
Unfortunately this will not help... The people who know where to find the pirated stuff will download that version anyway. Well okay, not all of them do... ;)

Got to admit that the recently introduced 15 minutes rule to be able to get a refund is not helping things... I have also "tested" some apps before acquiring them in the Market afterwards. For some apps/games 15 minutes is too short to be able to make a judgment (although lots of devs will still refund you after the 15 minutes have passed).

All not necessary with DeepAnd, ofcourse, it rulez :D
[Android Themes] mehappyz:
Well, if there ever becomes an accelorometer-only version, I will pay for it, as there isn't anything else like it in the market.

Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL
[Android Themes] loplo:
Not compatible with GT I9001 - looking forward for a compatible version.