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[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
im sorry but you are incorrect. mentioned this before. I will type it out again.. hopefully this time it sinks in (for everyone complaining about the battery life)

we decreased how many time per minute the system polls the battery.

which means current widget updates itself LESS frequently then it used to.

WHICH MEANS that chances are the reading you see AFTER you get off the phone was taken WHILE you were on the phone.

The battery drain does NOT stick @ any certain value. And you certainly dont need to reboot the device to get it to show a different value.

What you should be paying attention too is how long the device lasts between charges.. not what current widget is telling you its using.

NOT ONLY THAT....

but current widget itself isn't a REALTIME indicator of what your device is drawing off the battery. Current widget waits between poles to the battery as well. So if you have it set to poll every 60 seconds..... (stay with me here)

your on the phone for 3 minutes. current widget poles 3 times during your call.

you get off the phone and look at your current widget reading.. wait.... its higher then normal. both the system would have to poll the battery THEN current widget would have to poll the battery and THEN you would have an accurate reading.

This is the last time im going to explain this PERIoD.

The fact that your aged hd2 is outlasting stock native android devices doesnt mean anything? It certainly does to me.

And for the love of god... if your not using location based services TURN IT OFF.

Not using bt or gps? TURN THEM OFF.

Turn your screen brightness down.

Turn off wifi.

Turn down your volume.

Plug in your phone.

Buy a new battery.

DO NOT USE TASK KILLER APPS.. ANDROID DOES THIS WITHOUT 3rd PARTY ADD IN APPS.

Aside from producing a new battery and device for you guys.. we SWEAR TO GOD can't do anythign else to increase battery life.

We've undervolted and underclocked the kernel as well..... honestly... nothing else we can do.

Have you ever googled "android poor battery life"?

http://www.google.ca/search?q=andro...=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&rlz=1I7SUNC_en

now you have.
[HD2 Android SD Development] cporeaux:
and you've done a big job !

battery last is very good and 'very better' than first builds !

And when i try to check batt drain, i go in batt monitor history, to check how it was during screen off and for a while (not checking every min how it is).

The batt last is good for me and as said by someone : if i don't like, i go away ;-)

Good news for the NAND ROM ;-)
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
by the end of the week i think the nand build should walk through the door and introduce itself. :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] grasshoxda:
hi all, im dual booting mango and this rom, but i cant install anything from the market. tried a few fixes, am i missing something obvious?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Bazzz66:
NP, I will have a look how long the battery lasts between charges.

Till now I have always been told that I had to look with the current widget. I will deinstall current widget and never look at it again...

Must have overlooked the post explaining the above, sometimes I do not have the time to look every post every day.

Tnx for the clear explanation and for re-typing :D:D:D

Keep up the good work, did not mean to piss anyone off, normally I find most of my problems by myself. But there are more people with the same question, so they should also be helped.

Regards
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
its all good. no worries.
[HD2 Android SD Development] kushXmaster:
Quoted for truth.

Dude I can't give you enough points or thanks for this post...everyone talks about so much battery drain...I use my device on HSPA+ CONSTANTLY throughout the day and a single charge lasts 12 hours. This build is faster and more stable than native windows...all I can say is thank you guys for continued effort!

Also, today is free slurpee day at seven elevens nationwide go get yours everyone!
[HD2 Android SD Development] kdelisle:
Market problems will be fixed when cope uploads the revised version tonight.
[HD2 Android SD Development] reijkelhof:
With all due respect copenhagen, the last month worth of updates (for me) had a problem that after receiving a call (or some forms of notification) my phone would INDEED get stuck on a 60+ma drain FOR HOURS.

Meaning that if I received a call just before bed, and did not recharge overnight, my phone would be near empty or dead after waking up. instead of a 7% drain. I DID have to reboot to get it to go back to a normal drain.

So to see you post this above really surprises me.

Now maybe this problem DID exist but was fixed in the last few builds, and now people are just looking at a lower poll rate and seeing a 60+ drain for a few minutes thinking the problem still exists, but the problem (for me) DID exist. (And as a result, I am now on changed kernel awaiting a fix)
[HD2 Android SD Development] blady.bb:
Has anyone mirror to build with working maket?
[HD2 Android SD Development] nygmam:
l have a brand new battery and it is lasting very well.. just out if curiosity, have you tried testing the ROM with a new data file with no apps installed, thats the only way you will really know if it is the ROM out something you installed...
[HD2 Android SD Development] TheNT:
that's definitlly true but i tried also on old data and on build update it's deleted/uninstaled/removed from old data image.

I think that's what people are talking about...

Installing new one is definitly facebooks problem cause new version of app doesnt work with new facebook changes on application layout. Causes FC.

Old ones 1.54 1.50 are ok but uninstaled on build upgrade :)

So to everybody: Titanium backup is included in your roms... use it ;)

edit:

sorry just read it...

many have problem with 1.6 read comments on market.

It work fo some, for some don't. maybe it's region/provider/who knows related, but it's heir developers problem and they are very well payed for it :)

with 1.5x there is no problem.

I use t just for pic upload from gallery. for browsing m.facebook is just fine...i think best :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] reijkelhof:
The last time I made a completely new datafile was on the 0623 build.

I then updated to 0630, using the 0623 data.

The day after I inserted the t10 kernel and downgraded my radio to 2.14.50.04

This resulted in a 5 or 6ma standby drain with spikes to 12ma every hour when weather updates, which (for me) is phenomenal with a near perfectly stable data connection.

I cannot afford testing at the time (there have been about 5 updates in a week), but copenhagens post scared me because if he never had the 60+ drain (bug) then I can hardly expect it to be fixed.
[HD2 Android SD Development] TheNT:
had same isues but this build give me some hope...

Isue was on older builds definitly and i used same setup as you did just cause of that.

Now testing and i'm not yet on that level of satisfaction as i was with that setup but i will definatelly give it a chance cause with this build i have spikes... and some drainage but after some time (half hour, hour, 10 minutes haven't catch patern yet...) drainage dropsto 7-8ma with wifi and data on... so i will try to give it some more testing until it settlle what is normal for every new installation.

Wait i will report it for sure but it sounds promissing :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] materoprodutions:
hey guys everything is working fine for me.thank you for your effort. one question: do I need this with this build?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1100114 if so which one? will the gps be better? Thank you
[HD2 Android SD Development] JustX:
I never had an issue with battery drain.

Ferk yo 60ma drain, ninja!

For people who didn't get the rick james reference.

HOMEWORK!:D;):) AMIRIGHT?:cool:

You should be fine without that, but feel free to try it out and report back to us what you find! =)
[HD2 Android SD Development] reijkelhof:
Sounds promising. Please do report back after a day or so and I might try to update.
[HD2 Android SD Development] itais:
Hi,

I am having problems with the latest build,

1) Mobile data connection totally drops when I receive a call.

2) Calls suddenly disconnect with no apparent reason.

Both didn't happen 2 builds ago.

Thank you in advance for you're assistance,

Itai.
[HD2 Android SD Development] kushXmaster:
Sooo just made a little donation the the ACA team...its only ten bucks, but that should at least get you a beer or two :)

Thanks again guys for making this phone more epic than any other!

(I'll pm the aca account with confirmation number)
[HD2 Android SD Development] jaguaralani:
A must have widget ( at least for me )

Dear Cope,

Attached is one of my must have widgets ( sysinfo ), surprisingly, it stopped working when you guys began to play with the rootfs files !

Going back to the old 16 MB rootfs files always fixes the problem !

...../
[HD2 Android SD Development] warrenb213:
Hey jag :)

Thanks for the feedback I'm sure cope will jump on figuring if this is a directory perm or whatnot. :)

Nice builds btw! Keep up the good work!
[HD2 Android SD Development] blackhumor918:
After replaced the rootfs.img of 1st post downloaded build with the one (RFStest3ACA071011.7z) you delivered on #12150, I checked from RE explore that the /init.htcleo.rc is indeed "10 7 11 07:23:54 Size 5330".

Thanks Cope.
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
okay you fine men and women who frequent these parts.

tonights build process has begun.

keep you informed over the next little while (check my sig)

word!
[HD2 Android SD Development] jaguaralani:
Thanks mate,

Cheers ...!
[HD2 Android SD Development] mv:-):
looking forward to r071111

looking forward to the next build and build 111111 (it would be a burger friday, though) ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
lost 30 mins to a ssl related error on the dev machine... fixed... continuing on.
[HD2 Android SD Development] dttung80:
Thanks for your hardworkin'... Lookin for the stranger contents in the changelog. :D
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
typo. in my previous post which I am now proofing ... lol i said 07:23.54

this was a typo on my part... the correct time is 01:23.54

i can now confirm that the rootfs test3 and the rootfs i included with the 0709 build are the same. so.... anyone who copied in the rootfs test 3 into the 0709 build.. you copied the same file over itself. *so.. i made 1 less mistake then I apologized for. :)

unless someone can verify to the contrary... ill be using the same rootfs VERY shortly in the new build (to upload to you of course)

so someone that dl'd the rootfstest3.. please share the time stamp of your /init.htcleo.rc file...

thankyou.

*opps updating sig
[HD2 Android SD Development] HearMeWhisper:
That explains a lot lmao :p But thank you for all your hard work. I went to NANDroid for awhile, and none of the builds could fully compete with American Android. So now I'm dual booting WP7(bout to get the mango update), and this build on sd. I only wish I could have an ext partition with WP7, but it's windows, and they are iffy bout stuff like that lol
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
btw. as per our unspoken topic of conversation. a few more will be gone when you first boot. they are easily obtained and will install to your data.img -> thus surviving future updates. so you only have to deal with them once. we all knew this comming. dont discuss it.. RESIST!

capeesh? (Capisce !..........!/capish/c@pYshh you know.)
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
nicely put kd. :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] jaguaralani:
Capisce !..........!
[HD2 Android SD Development] Tubgirl:
I KNEW IT! It's your build and it goes without saying that you should do whatever you want with it, but I'm sad to see that stability doesn't come first anymore. If it did you wouldn't sacrify if for a few extra percent of battery life.

I suspected it already in this post since I was getting problems with freezing all the time.

I really hope you can reconsider the undervolting, because the way things are now you'll never be sure if stability problems reported by users are related to undervolting or not.

For now I've reverted back to the 290511 build.

Brgds... /Tubgirl

PS. Who want's an undervolted burger anyways? ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] PlayStation:
Cope please dont cane those of us who report the 60mA battery spikes. The only reason this issue comes up is that whenever there is new update up for grabs those of us with the problem would be hoping that the problem would be gone. And when we find the 60 mA thing in a new build it is only fair that we report back.

In contrast we no longer talk about the 60mA battery drain caused by BT. This is because Warren explained to us that the option of lower battery drain has the effect of broken Bt functionality. We agree that there would be no use of having low power Bt when you cant use it in the first instance.

But the effect of 60mA after a call is very different from that of BT. To most of us the device is primarily to be used as a phone first and other things second. The other day I drained my 2 batteries within 12 hours. One of the batteries is brand new oem..... As result I retreated to an older build. Precisely I went to 20th June build with an earlier Warren kernel (18th May). I have made all manner of combinations between builds, warren kernels and rootfs. I am now getting as low as 3mA standby drainage with most sync apps switched on ;)

Of course I test each and every build that you guys work so hard to give to us. So please as you work in the ACA kitchen do remember those of us who get the spikes as 60mA is simply not sustainable. That said I am looking forward to testing the newest build....... :p
[HD2 Android SD Development] raphy82:
SPB Tv

Anyone got their SPB TV working ?

I only hear the audio, the Video is Black.

Thanks
[HD2 Android SD Development] mv:-):
time stamp of my /init.htcleo.rc file says 7:23:54 (copied RFStest3ACA071011 into the 0709 build). file expert v3.13, on the other hand, says 3:23:54 AM (Jul 10, 2011). :-S
[HD2 Android SD Development] TheNT:
You mean CAPISCO :) (means: "I understood" :) )
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
okay

so Kris and I just got finished an unnecessarily long investigation into the rootfs and its involvment in the 0709 build. and together we have determined

we cross referrenced gtalk/google cache/dropbox deleted files/our browser download folders/our browser history/and finally our own devices. it was like a crime scene... but completely unnecessary. lol it was good (rootfstest3 made it into the 0709 build). which means this one should be good to.

Update -

Build 071111 - happy free slurpee day :) (thanks seven eleven)

http://www.multiupload.com/M92WB5L9V3

!! DONT QUOTE THIS LINK OR ILL HAVE UR HYDE !!

i gotta goto bed. there just went another night..... ill post this to teh first page tomorrow if I get some feedback...
[HD2 Android SD Development] copenhagen:
and that my friend is an axample of a time zone differnce.. hense the same minute ending... i bet the result differ all over the place but all say :23:54 at the end* ;)

*also a topic Kris and I wasted our time on lol but good clue in none the less.
[HD2 Android SD Development] PlayStation:
Thanks Cope. As always we appreciate your selfless work. Grabbing it right away...... :p
[HD2 Android SD Development] TheNT:
looool first one :D

!! DONT QUOTE THIS LINK OR ILL HAVE UR HYDE !!
[HD2 Android SD Development] mv:-):
Link! link! link!

@PlayStation:

the link, the link, the link!!! :eek: (hint: check cope's statement after the link...)
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
0711 Build

The best just got better again. Easy update using my very old data.img. Everything that should be working is working very well. No reason why this build shouldn't be on the first page.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Rooster100:
SteeeEEERIIKE TWO!!!

You quoted the quoted LINK again! LOL:D

Edit: Oops- no he didn't- should have checked the hyperlink-goes to nowhere! (Feel free to set the tone back to proper standards Uzi)
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
No he didn't. I do hope this isn't going to set the tone for the next couple of pages...
[HD2 Android SD Development] PlayStation:
NOT ME

Me quoted a link? Where? how? when? You must be joking!!!! ;)

Have you really read my post............. Look again!!!!!!! :D
[HD2 Android SD Development] geenyous:
BT drain, once again

Thanks for this post, but I must disagree with the above. Maybe our dear friend Mr. T. sprinkled some magic over his ubuntu computer, I don't know. Only thing I do know ist 7mA with BT on and not one problem with various devices (Jabra Headset, Car Radio, Laptop) whatsoever.

There very well might be some problems related to AVRCP, this I don't know, but for the general headset, music stream, ppt or music app remote control use this does not matter.

If this really was the case I think it would justify 2 separate kernel releases.

Just to state this one last time: I am going 15+ h with BT on, GPS on, Data on, ~40% WiFi on, tons of widgets (news, stocks, picture changer, Gtasks, twitter, calendar, wheather) 2 push +1 imap email accounts and a use of 2+ h per day, brilliant imho (and of course not all kernel related, the last 2 builds gave me even better battery life and a much more fluent experience!)!
[HD2 Android SD Development] dttung80:
Crying crying crying .... where is my Change Log ?

Eat buger but don't know eat what and how. :eek:

Crying crying crying ... and crying !!!
[HD2 Android SD Development] TheNT:
hmmm

Now facebook is left intact but youtube app and widget removed :D

edit:

And again same as with facebook...

Downloaded from marketplace new version but after installing FC apear...

Maybee on updating old data.img something is left from app in so new app can't run when installed?

Will try to figure it out...

edit2:

Yep some leftovers definitlly...

Cleared cache and data wouldn't help...

But after that uninstaled app (so it probably removed leftovers) and instaled again and problem solved.

It works.

Facebook same scheme who want's too play :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] pwhitrow:
updated to latest... all good so far. Thanks Cope :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] satan!:
-sound muffled had to put fix taken from the previous posts.

- ~ 4-7ma quiet mode

- After the bell ~ 63-65ma

testing a more ...
[HD2 Android SD Development] hecatombercm:
thats what I inteded to convey by saying 07/09 update, still had issue even after that post
[HD2 Android SD Development] PlayStation:
Oh no!!! 64mA after call will end up causing me a migraine! Incidentally what is your combination. I am with Winphone 7 and 2.12 radio.....
[HD2 Android SD Development] Nelthalin:
Please wait with checking Current Widget after you call because off the polling intervall's. If you still have 63 mah after 10 min it could be something else.
[HD2 Android SD Development] satan!:
HD2 wm 6.5

radio 2.08

tested and : 2.15.
[HD2 Android SD Development] satan!:
I know about it

waiting for a call after 30-35 minutes.
[HD2 Android SD Development] geenyous:
Battery polling

BTW, just to get rid of this polling myth, I don't know about you guys, but a call here is more around the 120+ mA area, not ~ 60mA. If it was, we could be on the phone for roughly 20 hours...

Not even HTC is bold enough to state such an in-call performance :D

EDIT: Not sure my numbers are correct here, I thought the drain was measured per hour, so 60mA per hour is 600 mA after 10 hours and therefore 1200mA after 20 and with a batt capacity of 1230mAh it would be dead by then...
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
Yes, I'd like to know whenever there is any battery issue, it's always ~60mA. Notifications, BT,after call - all ~60mA.

Maybe it would be better to find out what uses ~60mA in our attempts to find the cure.
[HD2 Android SD Development] satan!:
hmm explain.

without calling the ~ 4-7ma and after a call fails to return to the 4-7ma, returned to the 60-70ma.

Is this normal?

can be tried at all to remove sim-cart
[HD2 Android SD Development] PlayStation:
Agreed Uzi.... There is something about this 64mA that needs to be investigated further. I believe the BT by itself is not the problem but it triggers something else that causes the spike. Same thing with the infamous call that triggers the 64mA. I mean why 64 and not 50, 39 or 87 or 113.... . :confused:
[HD2 Android SD Development] sassa:
Exactly. And nice diplomacy, @PlayStation :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] PlayStation:
Well we all know better than upset Cope.... :D Dont want bad nightmares visiting him in his sleep. If you get into a fight with Cope you may never live to tell the story. But I believe this BT/call battery issues are in Warren's docket though there must be a way these inter-relate with the rootfs and the works!

Perhaps Warren can build us a new kernel. There has been no new kernel for 12 days since 30th June which translate to 12 months in ACA time....... :p
[HD2 Android SD Development] TheNT:
Jep same issue.. dont know when and why...

Had two times that it fell down to 7ma and that after it drain my batterry for 30% in one hour... than 10 percent in 3 hours and than call than again about 70ma...

Tried without wifi, tried turning off ewverything, tried don't know what... but there is still a problem.

Maybee region related or provider... mine is t-mobile/in croatia/turned 3g off for test...

Wifi is always on cause i have it everywhere... on road data is on.

But tested without and there is still a problem.

grrr will test it more. I really hope to catch the pattern what trigers it.

stay tuned ;)

edit: now instaled juice defender and from 64 felt to 39ma ina about 10minutes of not using it...
[HD2 Android SD Development] uzi2:
60mA drain

Here is an interesting contribution from kosti123, who is unable to post on the forum...
[HD2 Android SD Development] evo1rs:
AFAIK its battery capacity that is measured in mAh and current draw in mA. meaning that drawing 1230mA on a 1230mAh battery it would last 1 hour. A 615mA draw would last 2 hours. A 307mA draw 4 hours etc.

My phone use 500-600 mA when browsing on hdspa or playing games, about 120mA on a call and sleeps at 5-10mA. Background app updates push the sleep figure up to 60 ish but it comes back down for me.

Currentwidget is only software so I don't know how accurate it can be. REAL current testers are physically connected in series in the circuit.

Sent from my HD2

Running AmeriCanAndroid

AOSPHD2GB234CM7
[HD2 Android SD Development] ecb5:
Sadly, i have to say i now suffer from the current spike after a call or sms. I will investigate on this.

I was using only 2g, no data, no bt, no gps.

If i remember correctly, i made a call ( no one answered ) current returned to 7ma.

Sent an sms, current spike and stood high for ever.

Rebooted, called twice and call connected, current spike.
[HD2 Android SD Development] PlayStation:
@ Evo1rs how can I please get to use the previous boot animation- the one immediately before the orbiting androids.... I really loved that animation but it lasted only 1 build and was kicked out with the 19th/21st May build. You dont happen to have a copy somewhere in your archives, do you? ;)