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[Thunderbolt General] ramodil:
Was in Best Buy yesterday and spoke to the guy who got the incredible release date spot on before it's official announcement and we were going over the differences. When I spoke to him he pulled some paperwork that stated the 24th is the official street date. The computer system just states when they are going to arrive in store, not really a release date.
[Thunderbolt General] nkd:
THe guy in that forum has also posted the ad from next week that goes out monday morning on the 21st. The thunderbolt is on there, so dont be surprised if BB is selling it on the 21st, no where it says the availability so it looks like it will sell on the 21st. otherwise it would have said the available date on the ad. If they dont do sell the phone, it will sure piss people off who go to the store after seeing the ad.
[Thunderbolt General] NCX Designs:
They can easily print up an ad-correction stating when it will arrive in store. I have a feeling this ad is just reflecting the original 14th date and is just saying "oh don't forget we have the new Thunderbolt"

ads are printed up months in advance, so i doubt BB would have had enough time to get a reprint issued before it was sent to all the news papers for distribution.

24th should be the date, we know it ships this week from HTC to Verizon as was tweeted by Peter Chou, i think the instock date is right and that they will start pre-ordering them at Verizon on that same day to ship on the 24th/on sale date.

if we go by the previous launch (droid incredible last year) the phone was announced the friday before, pre-orders started Monday around 1am EST, the phone shipped a day or two later and arrived a day earlier than the street date for most, and went on sale that Thursday (April 29th)
[Thunderbolt General] nkd:
I work retail, and no ads are not printed monts in advance. Our ads go out a week in advance, and I work at frys. Yes ads are made atleast 2, 3 weeks in advance. They dont print until a week in advance. we dont throw anything on ad that we are not sure about and that will not be available, unless ofcourse they one store is out of stock for some reason. Unless ofcourse we put an availability date on the paper that says the item is available on such date.

If best buy puts it on ad going out on the 20th and doesn't say that the item will be available on the 24th then they will probably piss off a lot of customers, even if it being released on the 24th, you gotta put that on ad.
[Thunderbolt General] deadpixell:
Ads for best buy are actually made typically two~three weeks in advance, and get to the store a week before it comes out approximately
[Thunderbolt General] ilinimud:
I know this just adds to all the heresay on here but this is what i was told by BB today. First the normal (non-mobile) store said they had no idea when they would get it, and it showed up in the system as "disco" so that meant it got delayed again.

Then i went to the BB Mobile store and they said it would be available on the 24th, and they wil reserve one for 50 bucks. Then the guy proceeded to tell me how stupid i would be if i got it with the Bionic being announced and then pulled out a DX to tell me how awesome it was being rooted. I asked what all he could do with root and he said it is overclocked and has a custom start page. I said oh yeah, my Incredible has Gingerbread, ill stick with HTC for the dev support/non locked bootloader.
[Thunderbolt General] m00nshake:
The rumor mill has been awfully quiet today...
[Thunderbolt General] Omen87:
I think everyone is just sick of it. This is just completely ridiculous.
[Thunderbolt General] m00nshake:
Just got word from BestBuy. As of this morning, the release has been delayed indefinitely
[Thunderbolt General] superchilpil:
Haha starting that stupid rumor again? I'm glad all the rumors stopped

Atleast we are all almost set in the right date... the 24th
[Thunderbolt General] Essenar:
You work for Best Buy and you don't know the difference between in-stock date and street date?

Do you see to the left where it says "Street Date" and it's blank? That's where Best Buy documents the release date for a product. In-stock date just means when it's supposed to come into inventory.

Stores receive shipments on Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays typically. I didn't even work in inventory to know that.

Anyway the confirmed release date is the 24th and the "delayed again" rumors are false. HTC CEO already stated he shipped out the phones. The only people crying "delay" are saying it because they might not get their shipments in time to launch on the 24th with the rest of the carriers.
[Thunderbolt General] m00nshake:
I'm just saying what Bestbuy rep told me. He stated he's been calling people all morning. I don't know whether to believe him as there were only three other people on the waiting list when I signed up for preorder on Feb 14th. I've seen all the rumors on the web, I'm as excited as you are to get this phone, but Bestbuy really let my hopes down some... I hope It's out on 24th...
[Thunderbolt General] BigBonkers:
Guys this is a great phone but im just wondering.....if you take the 4g away from this phone its still a basic 2.2 Froyo Android phone.

There are no apps in the market that are special for this hone that another android phone can play.

What are you expecting from this phone besides looks and 4g? Or is the 4g enough?
[Thunderbolt General] Androidfreakz:
Oh and the guy that leaked the inventory screen shot also leak the new sells paper for next week and it's in there as a "new" item with a price.
[Thunderbolt General] TNS201:
New sense

Speaker

kickstand

nice slick look

larger screen

free 32gb sd
[Thunderbolt General] m00nshake:
So if someone else here who has preordered could call Bestbuy and ask them to confirm or deny this delay, it would help ease my current frustration after talking to the Bestbuy rep today
[Thunderbolt General] Chopes:
I am sorry if this is a dumb question, but can you please link to the place where the new sense is confirmed on the thunderbolt? Your talking about sense 2.1 right (I think thats what its called)? Thats awesome if true, but I thought it was going to be the same sense we currently have.

/prays to be true
[Thunderbolt General] nkd:
Relax dude it will be here. There is no delay. The reps dont know what the hell they are talking about. The honest rep will tell you they are not sure, because they have no control over when it is coming out and they only go by what they hear just like us.
[Thunderbolt General] m00nshake:
Androidguys now posting tb delayed to Feb 28th
[Thunderbolt General] superchilpil:
Look up the specs on HTCs website

Yes it has sense 2.0
[Thunderbolt General] Essenar:
To be honest, this actually is a very upgraded device compared to the rest of Verizon's line-up.

I returned a MyTouch 4G to T-Mobile to move to Verizon. I was shocked at the current line up. The best phones with Verizon are locked down. Droid X/2 Global both have locked bootloaders. The Samsung Fascinate is made by Samsung.

Every other carrier has a very impressive HTC/Snapdragon device, but Verizon was lacking.

Sure, it's single core, but it's really like the "end-game" of single core phones. No other single core phone is going to hold its weight. Plus, have you SEEN the 4G speed tests? I've seen 10 mbps down and 3 mbps up in some videos. That's insane speed.

Verizon's last good HTC phone is the Incredible which is incredibly out-dated.

Sure, this phone only has "small" upgrades versus current phones. But it sure has a lot of those small upgrades: (FFC, HTC built, 8 mp camera, generation 2 snapdragon). Tell me which current phones are better that are backed by as good of a manufacturer.
[Thunderbolt General] nkd:
yes its true, just got the inspire 4g and if thunderbolt comes out on the 24th I will be jumping ship specially if verizon offers unlimited data for 29 bucks for LTE. Insipre has the new sense and its damn snappy.
[Thunderbolt General] Bateluer:
For being Verizon's first LTE enabled phone, I'm kinda surprised there isn't more buzz surrounding the Thunderbolt. I want one, but if its delayed too long, it'll have to go head to head with the dual core LTE phones.

For the time being, my plan is to buy a TB, which will likely be my last single core phone. Let a generation or two of dual core devices ship, get the kinks/bugs ironed out, they buy a dual core device once they've been refined.
[Thunderbolt General] nkd:
if this thing is delayed again. I might as well pick up an atrix before my 30 days windows is up since engadget has posted that it is official now that atrix is being pushed to the 22nd of this month. Verizon is making a mess out of this phone, wonder why they have not announced a release date already? Just let people know when it will be out.
[Thunderbolt General] superchilpil:
The funny part us there was no delay if there was no release date, so saying its been delayed again means nothing, they barley started advertising it

I'm sure Verizons plan is to do the 14 day difference so people can't change their minds about the Idud
[Thunderbolt General] mike919:
its not 30 days anymore, its 14.

This is more then a regualr android 2.2.1 device. Take ANY layer off all the other phones out and its just a 2.2.1 device as well... i don't understand the rationale. This has 768MB of RAM, brand new snapdragon chipset, Sense 2.0 whats not to like? just cause it isn't dual-core? don't think 2.2.1 or even 2.3 has dual core support anyway?
[Thunderbolt General] gemro311:
Went into local ( Raleigh, NC) Verizon store ..TB will be released on 2/24.
[Thunderbolt General] mike919:
1. XDA really needs to extend their time out service for log-ins!! HAHAHa

2. I also hope this is the case. I've been told by bestbuy the last 2 times i've gone in that the 24th is still the date they have (as early as last night.. obviously that could have changed today) either way, whats 4 more days...

as everyone mentions... no date was given by VZW, so it technically hasn't been "delayed"
[Thunderbolt General] racedog:
Maybe this will provide a little relief. Not proof because anything can change but maybe a little hope.

http://androidforums.com/2295308-post31.html

R
[Thunderbolt General] Omen87:
Gotta love Verizon's cryptic tweets:
[Thunderbolt General] mike919:
I hate to say it, but that screenshot looks very... basic... i wouldn't believe that any more then i believe VZW........

not to mention that isn't even the selling price... unless thats manufacturing price...
[Thunderbolt General] mike919:
HAHAH thats more of the absolute truth more then cryptic.
[Thunderbolt General] Omen87:
Would have to agree that that looks sketchy. I feel like someone slapped that together in MSWord or something and then made a PDF out of it.
[Thunderbolt General] ska.t73:
It is from a VZW rep that posts over at Android Forums... the price is their store's price per unit, not retail.... the reason the SS looks so plain is because he had to remove the information that could get him in trouble.
[Thunderbolt General] Essenar:
That's not Verizon's twitter.

Check their twitter here: No mention of Thunderbolt at all for the last four days.

http://twitter.com/verizonwireless
[Thunderbolt General] ska.t73:
Ummmm your link shows the tweet...
[Thunderbolt General] jbh00jh:
Yeah , the tweet mentioned the TB today, read it.

Sent by my Droid Incredible
[Thunderbolt General] AdamAlter:
The Best Buy I ordered from said I'd be able to pick it up same day they arrive which he says will be the 21st. He said they were set for the 14th and were pushed back one time to the 21st. He also said if they were to be pushed back again, they would likely already know with it being so close.

Not saying he's right/wrong, just adding in what I was just told.
[Thunderbolt General] superbigblack:
i have a pic of tbolt in a SI issue dated the 21st
[Thunderbolt General] zacholley:
interesting I dont see a mention of the 24th anywhere there....... hmmmm
[Thunderbolt General] nkd:
come next week,we will know. I honestly dont think they would be advertising everywhere if this thing was delayed any further. If you start advertising all over web, in the magazine you better have the thing ready for launch, otherwise people get over it after a while. Like me if it is not released within next week or before my 30 days are up with att I would probably forget about it. I might go for the atrix instead I hate motorola and their locked devices but the specs on Atrix can not be ignored if there is no other viable choice.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] csmacdroid:
Any app? Running Froyo.

Thanks.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mictek:
I use Tango, but audio isn't great. Both are on Wifi.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nolonolon:
Yahoo chat works well if you have a good connection. If you don't it won't even let you. You'll need to download the messenger and yahoo video ? It tells you what to download extra. I never have any problems. I hear my girlfriend and she hears me as well. Video is fluid the four times I've used it.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] musclehead84:
It just sucks cause you are sideways during videochat.

Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sh0wNuF:
I just download qik for the evo from the market and it works fine
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeerChameleon:
Evo version eh?

That works better then the epic version if there is one?

Sent From My Bonsai Epic 4g
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sh0wNuF:
Actually the epic version works wa better but it is left out of custom 2.2 roms and haven't really looked for an apk for it. But there are only 2 versions in the market and the one for the evo is the only one that has video chat
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] othan1:
tons of threads on this.

Yahoo's good-ish but displays images wrong (yours, specifically) and is about 50MB for both. Lots of PC/Mac users have Yahoo Messenger already.

OoVoo requires recipients to download a new application on their PC but it requires less phone memory (about 3MB) and the images are displayed correctly. Seems more fluid to me as well on 3G.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ryjabo:
I just got my epic not quite two weeks ago and it came with Qik pre-installed. Tried it out with my wife (she has an Epic, too) and... while it worked, it didn't look great.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] csmacdroid:
Thanks to everyone. Trying qik right now.

Sent from my Epic not yet 4G
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] socos25:
For me Yahoo messenger fit the bill. Although it has an issue putting me upside down, it allows me to video chat with people who do not have smart phones. The quality is pretty good too, if you can get past being upside down.

I'm sure this will be fixed shortly, or hope it is. The first release didn't work at all.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dubbleurx:
I use tango with no problems
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] musclehead84:
I've tried almost all of them and is there any that doesn't put you upside down or sideways? Also.did these apartment do thus on eclair? I wasn't on eclair long enough to video chat.

Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nolonolon:
I didn't have that problem. I was also able to use both cameras. I've not tested it on midNIGHT.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] othan1:
Apparently my post was skipped. Oovoo works well and you are shown properly in both your view window and the recipient's view window.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A_Flying_Fox:
I actually used tango for the first time last night.

well actually it was me, my sister and my cousin here in florida using it with my cousin in new york. We used it on every platform. first we used my sisters iphone 4 and saw our cousin had it so we called her and it was on att 3g with one bar and worked wayyyy better than expected.

there was a few hiccups and then disconnected because of the signal, so we tried with my cousins ipod touch on wifi and we tangoed my cousin in new york (not sure what phone she has but its an android) and it was crystal clear and the audio was clear.

then i wanted to try it out on the epic and it went through with no problems on wifi. it was even clearer than the ipod touch! unfortunately, i have noooooooo service down here in tampa so i couldnt test it out on 3g, but my guess is that if it went through on Att 3g with 1 bar, it will be excellent on sprint 3g.

it also worked to tango my co-worker who happened to visit miami at the same time we came to florida but his end was kinda blurry. it was more like the difference you see when you go from playing a video game in 720p and then watching a tv show in 480i lol

the thing i like about tango is that if someone has tango, it'll show up in the contact list and its as easy as just tapping their name and then tapping the "Video" button. its like an iphone interface.

hope this helps in your decision making!

PS. you dont show up sideways. neither does the other person. my cousin in new york was laying down sideways and the video was still full screen on our end
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bighuta:
Is there some sort of way to patch a fix for the front facing camera orientation glitch? I hate being sideways..
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brianhot1:
I believe oovoo works the best just make sure if a pc user is trying to oovoo just make sure they have the latest version that is compatible so you can video chat with your device,app is free in market.

www.oovoo.com/download.aspx
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
Credits

-newone757 for the original .psd

-xtremekilla09 i totally ripped his thread layout off. :D

-[Team Komin] for there awesome rom's
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
Glowen v2 Icons 70 total.

Icons First batch.

Glowen Boot V2

Assuming your rom supports custom bootanimation.zip's - Drop the zip file into /system/media/ - This is

NOT

a cwm install zip.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Dupontrocks11:
Looks great!
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whitesox311:
do you have an apk or morph for JUST the dialer? that ****'s off the chain.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
Lol thanks. No morph but here's the apk. DIALER
[Captivate Themes and Apps] mprinceiii:
personally would not use it, but i do like the style and presentation of it. looks well done
[Captivate Themes and Apps] Phoenix-Lead:
Good job on the new theme!
[Captivate Themes and Apps] AReynante:
Hey, I just installed the dialer, and I'm loving it :)

Edit: I have been installing seperate parts, and now my contacts force closes, is there more to the contacts than just the .apk?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
Try clearing dalvik cache in recovery and then rebooting. Some system apps share a uid and when they dont match up it messes up, i believe. Like the dialer and contacts, you can open contacts from inside the dialer and vice verse. so i believe they both need to share the same uid.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] AReynante:
Will clearing that mess anything up? Just want to be sure before I do it
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
It shouldnt, no. Just a long first boot, as though you have just flashed a new rom. If all else fails drop the apks from your original rom back into the system/app folder. That will for sure solve the problem your having.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] AReynante:
The wipe didn't fix it, but I'll just do the original apk thing.

Thank you for the help
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
Ill put some versions for other rom's up in the next day or two. Just keep an eye on the thread. Would. Ha e done it already but I've been kinda busy.

Any requests and ill do those first.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] AReynante:
I'm running Serendipity 5.8, but I got what I needed out of the original glowen file :)

I'm using the mms, dialer, music, gmail, browser :cool:
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
So it was just the contacts giving you the fc's and it works fine with your rom's original contact's with no fc's?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] DAGr8:
WOW , GREAT job man ...
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
Thanks, to anyone that's given me a digital pat on the back.:)
[Captivate Themes and Apps] AReynante:
Yeah, once I flashed the original contacts.apk, it all went fine
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
Ok cool thanks
[Captivate Themes and Apps] MikeyMike01:
2.2 Contacts FCs on 2.2.1.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
Gotcha, thank you very much.

______

First batch of general icons done. Check em out on the second post.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
New install zips added for

-Serendipity 5.8 - untested

-Cognition 3.04 - untested

-Firefly 2.1 - untested

please report any bugs / annoyances

thanks

Edit: if you install an untested version and it does in fact work, please let me know so I can update the op.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] gospeedgo:
Do you think you could create a version for Supernova?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
Sure give me a few minutes.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] AReynante:
Edit 2: I did a full flash of the glowen for serendipity, and still had the issues with MMS. Then did the revert and it fixed my MMS.

But I do like the mms included in glowen, so any way I can help you fix it let me know. It is still a nice theme
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
I dont know of anything i did that would effect the xda app? 0.o

Let me know whats going on with the mms though. I did not include the serendipity mms.apk because it was missing a lot of stuff. The mms included in that zip is the same one you were using before. Dont know why it would be fcing now.

Just double checked and mms works fine for me.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] AReynante:
The xda thing was random, probably on my end. The mms however, I had pulled the original from your first package when released, and had been using it until about 5 mins ago until I downloaded the revert for serendipity.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
Yeah the original from my first package is the one that is now in the serendipity zip. Technically the only thing you(specifically you) upgraded was your contacts.apk. The mms is the exact same.

I think all the swaping out you may or may not be doing is causing the issue. Try clearing the individual cache of your dialer/contacts/mms/ (may or may not delete contact info.. i do not know) then a reboot.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] AReynante:
So in the new rom versions, the only change was contacts.apk, right?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
No i actually pulled all the files from the roms and edited the artwork inside them individually. In the case of serendipity, your mms was almost empty and i knew you said the original mms i was using worked for you. So rather then play the guessing game i just kept the mms from my original version in the serendipity zip. All other apk's are the ones from serendipity.

edit: does it work when you use the actually serendipity mms.apk?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] AReynante:
When I use the mms from serendipity 5.8, it works fine. But when I pull yours, I get the FC message. Sorry I should've been more clear
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
Ok I'm going to remove my mms from the serendipity version for the time being because I have no idea why its happening.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] AReynante:
I don't know specifically how, but if I ran a log, or whatever its called, would that help?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
Not for me, haha i can edit graphics... no idea what to do with logcats. You could try that in the serendipity thread and see if someone knows.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] AReynante:
Lol. Alright. I guess I'll have to go without the glow mms :P I liked that yours still had the option to select single texts, as opposed to just delete a thread at once.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] whiteguypl:
Id still like to know why it worked for you before but doesnt now. Your rom developer knows a lot more about this kind of stuff then i do. Wouldnt hurt to ask nicely if he could look into it. I know you guys use an asop mms apk, i just dont know anything else... lol

edit: You could always go back to the set up you had before, install the andromeda version and then apply your roms contacts apk over the top? My contacts apk isnt edited that much anyway.