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[Android Apps and Games] plainjane:
It's really hard for me to ignore the fact that some of you here on xda are just rude. You think you know everything, and you belittle others. You tell them to stop complaining, resort to name calling, and then ***** & moan for 4-5 posts. I love Android, everything about it. I love the openness & community support. But some of you, you just ruin it.

I used to love LPP, but the stability started going downhill once the rewrite started (which I expect we'll see around July). I got tired of the majority of LPP users having that "holier than thou" attitude & treating LauncherPro as if it's something Holy, and Fede is the Creator. Judge not lest ye be flamed to death. Asking questions about bugs or constructive criticism was treated like blasphemy, so nothing productive resulted from the forums. I went to ADW & eventually ADW Ex, and was amazed at the stability, customization & developer support.

But really, all of this is personal preference. You like what you like, and it's normal to be proud of it. But just don't resort to name calling & childish behavior.

Why you would deny the fact that broken promises are a bad thing, I don't know. I feel like this is sloppy and rude for a developer & I'm afraid that he's going to get more people like me that get tired, switch, and find they like the competition better. But hey, he's already got our money, so I doubt he cares.

Oh, and op, you had every right to start this thread. Just as everyone had the right to chime in: including the ones that called this pointless & whined about everything, while calling you a whiner.

You never once came off whiny to me, but they did. And as you said, it isn't about the cost, it's just the principle.
[Android Apps and Games] zzelinka:
Thanks. I agree wholeheartedly. I know how a good business runs and this ain't it. I'm probably going to leave LPP and not come back off things don't change. The Market is flooded with launchers and Fede it's going to fall behind. They are people out there that want to make a name for themselves and they will. Good luck to Fede and I hope things change...

- Z
[Android Apps and Games] Vulpix:
A reply like that from Fede just made me install ADW EX again and use Colorize.
[Android Apps and Games] DigitalJedi:
Wow. I'm not sure what is expected from a launcher other than a smooth UI with some nice features. I've been using LPP for ages and have shown it to many others that are using it now. I've tried em all and LPP is the smoothest, doesn't slow down my phone, and has some nice features. I'm happy. I'll wait for any updates and understand why they are few and far between and that's ok. I switch up my dockbars every few days, change my icons up to match what is going on, and the transition effects are pretty cool. Resizing widgets is a must too.

You guys expect a launcher to print money and cook bacon? Go get one of those other launchers that are bloated with "extra features" that really slow your phone down and eat your battery for lunch. I'll stick with LPP.
[Android Apps and Games] Foxwolfe:
That's funny dude, you should be a comedian.

I'm totally not being sarcastic.
[Android Apps and Games] avgjoemomma:
It's easier to marginalize and make fun of those with valid concerns and arguments, isn't it? :rolleyes:
[Android Apps and Games] CallMeAria:
I love this, people are acting like he's some multibillion dollar corporation that put out some official software release. He's one guy that put an app in the marketplace and decided if you wanted to contribute to his cause he'd throw in a few extras...what is the concern here? That you might have to use the current launcher pro or switch to a different launcher if its not updated ASAP? (Refrain from end of world panic sarcasm here) He's not a company, not a business, he's a developer putting an app out on his free time. We paid for something and we got it. If anyone honestly thought they were going to magically get a universally bug free app just because they paid for it then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you should have waited for that final perfect release after years of ironing out all the bugs?
[Android Apps and Games] ipawd1:
Hopefully I make all the nay-sayers happy, I've moved on to ADWEX Launcher. No hard feelings for those of you in love with Fede's application. More power to you. I just dont want redraws and other bugs. So I've moved on. Hopefully there wont be complaints about "why did you move from LPP because it's the better app" conversations..
[Android Apps and Games] Foxwolfe:
You tell me, I'm just getting tired of seeing people ONLY address the ones that are making a huge fuss and acting like children, instead of the replying to some of the people that actually have valid concerns and questions (from what I can see, I admit I haven't read the entire thread).

I understand getting irritated with people for whatever reason but that post was basically a huge rant aimed at the loudest whiners, it did nothing to help contribute to the thread in a meaningful way imo (not that any of my posts on here have either I'll openly admit).

Sorry if I've ruffled anyones feathers, I'm gonna stop replying to this thread now as I am already past the point of making meaningful posts in it and I don't see anything else useful coming from it at this point after everything that's already been said.

ipawd1: I don't even remember at this point why I switched from ADW to LP heh.
[Android Apps and Games] Asphyx:
And it's even easier to marginalize and make fun of people who havn't a CLUE what it takes to code a program that has to work on 20 Official builds and 40 customized frameworks and think it can be done as easily as scheduling an appointment with your dentist!

Hey Fede I don't feel good can you do some crown work on my homescreen on Tuesday between my lunch break and happy hour?
[Android Apps and Games] ipawd1:
question... how does everyone feel about Go Launcher?
[Android Apps and Games] troyolson92:
What launcher pro needs is a paid version in the market. I use it but can not pay for it because I don't use pay pal and those other services. Put the damn thing on the market like everyone else and then alot more of us can buy it.
[Android Apps and Games] troyolson92:
Go launcher looks great seems cool but I can't into prefrences on samsung epic. Sent dev emails etc. no response. From his forum it seems he very busy solving problems like phone lock ups.
[Android Apps and Games] 3rdstring:
I don't think Fede's country allows paid apps.
[Android Apps and Games] troyolson92:
That's a shame. He should pair up with someone then.
[Android Apps and Games] ipawd1:
...okay my thing is this. I voiced my opinions and moved on. You seem butthurt because people dont see your views. You even typed an extensive constructed response defending an app.

Nobody has said anything bad about lpp other than things we want fixed to make it top.notch. You basically are trying to force it on us.chill.
[Android Apps and Games] zzelinka:
People love to argue :)

- Z
[Android Apps and Games] Asphyx:
It's not about aurguing as much as it is about this site is for helping people, There are a few legitimate question posts among this thread and it is likely those people who posed question subscribed to the thread so they would get an email notifying them of any answers. And they would have gotten 10-20 emails with replys of Well whats this guys problem with his promises, blah blah blah

Anyone who has issues and questions please post them on the Official LPP thread here at XDA and I and I am sure many others who use the program will do whatever we can to help or get around those problems.
[Android Apps and Games] Skye Menjou:
I saw the argument of I don't use paypal come by.

PayPal is perfect for most people here in Belgium/Netherlands who don't have credit cards, We use our bank accounts with paypal(Debit).

Also, You don't need to have a paypal account to use paypal.

You can just check out and enter CC details without having to log in.

It works just like Google Checkout(without logging in) and other payment processors used.
[Android Apps and Games] syrenz:
It's my current launcher. Very smooth, no redraws and works great, plus constant updates improving it (i.e. latest update just added that screen looping LP has, but it's much smoother on Go Laucher).
[Android Apps and Games] reinbeau:
I came to this thread to find out what had happened to the long awaited update - at least from what I've read he's still working on it, albeit slowly....
[Android Apps and Games] dEris:
Wow really guys? Updates are not required at all. Updated apps just keeps the users happy. We should all be happy we are using the best launcher to this day. Everything works, except a couple MINOR bugs, but really... quit complaining that there isn't any updates. Let the man deal with his personal issues. Its a damn app for christ sake. Not a vaccine with a new strain to heal cancer.

[ Sent from an LG Optimus V ]
[Android Apps and Games] zzelinka:
LPP cures cancer? Hallelujah! Come on guys, this all started about lacks of communication on the updates. Not the actual updates. I think it's gotten out of hand. It's turned into a yelling match between those who don't care if an update every comes chad those who think one should be here. I'm in the middle. It would be nice, but there are always other fish in the sea...

- Z
[Android Apps and Games] brian_nathaniel:
An update would be nice, but not nearly as nice as not having to strain my way through dozens of posts arguing over it.

I think that, regardless of stance, everyone needs to just forget about the rewrite and be (un)pleasantly surprised when it comes out.

I am infinitely more bothered by the complaining and arguments that have overflown from the LP forums to every other site with a member who dares mention "LauncherPro" than I am by the lack of updates.
[Android Apps and Games] kroogar:
My current launcher coming from LPP. Only one thing caused me to switch: LPP couldn't handle displaying unread mails from my Google Apps account if my Google Apps account wasn't the primary account on my phone (ie. created as the first one).

Two things I would like to see improved with GO: The icons displaying # of unread messages/mails/phone calls are not as readable as in LPP. The other is the fact that vertical scrolling in scrollable widgets are virtually impossible in GO as you have to be extremely accurate in your vertical motion.

Other than that GO is perfect.

If Fede were to fix "my" issue reg. unread count I would switch back to LPP in a heartbeat...
[Android Apps and Games] reinbeau:
My problem with GO Launcher (all of the GO products, actually) is that I read they are info mining and selling our info, that's how they make money - and I'm just not willing to participate in that kind of thing. LauncherPro fulfills everything I require in a launcher, I'm waiting patiently for the upgrade, so patiently, as a matter of fact, that I'd completely forgotten about it until I stumbled on something out there regarding the rewrite and searched out this thread.
[Android Apps and Games] BryanChung:
Serious?! Where's the source of the news?
[Android Apps and Games] reinbeau:
Somewhere here on XDA, I'm sorry, I can't pinpoint it - if I find it I'll let you know.
[Android Apps and Games] syrenz:
Er what?? :eek:

If that was true, who would be willing to participate in that kind of thing? Anyways if this has any truth behind it (seems weird) that would be important to know.
[Android Apps and Games] Asphyx:
DO you have a facebook acccount? Did you put your Gmail account into your phone?

If you did then YOU would be willing to participate in that kind of thing! LOL

Provided they don't know who you actually are it's not as bad as it might suggest. They don't usually get your home address or anything when collecting this data but they do know or could concievably track what a particular account is doing and use that for marketing purposes.

It is the only way to make money off of FREE these days.

Ads are ineffective (and I think more unsafe) because they don't pay much, Require allowing a 3rd party to send code to your phone (Most Malware is transfered over hacked Ad servers) and most people who root can also modify HOSTS file to get rid of them.

You don't get anything for the actual price of nothing!

I'm not sure Go does what was proposed but it is logical that they might if the launcher is not a paid app.
[Android Apps and Games] reinbeau:
Precisely. So I choose to go with developers who ask for money for their product - I've paid literally almost $250 for all of the programs on my phone, because I want them to continue to make great products that make my phone experience that much better.
[Android Apps and Games] Asphyx:
Yep privacy is a relative term these days but it's not like these are things that couldn't be done before the advent of IT tracking.

The tracking that is done is akin to having someone say you went to this place this place and this place, bought this this and that.

But you still have some semblence of privacy because they don't really know WHO did that just what piece of hardware did.

Which is why the RIAA had some issues suing people over P2P because they couldn't prove the person that owned the computer actually was the one who broke the law!

They could maybe prove that computer did it and it was granted access under your account but unless they could prove you were at the computer and it wasn't someone else who simply hacked into your provider as you they had a very hard time proving who actually shared the files.
[Android Apps and Games] syrenz:
True I suppose, but I like controlling my privacy and who gets to see what.

Though I was wondering what Go's deal was since their apps are great and completely free and ad free...
[Android Apps and Games] Asphyx:
and your right to feel that way.

It is becoming more and more difficult every year to control.

The methods for doing it are varied. Even iTunes collects marketing data.

All your purchases via credit card are tracked.

to really have full control you really need to become a cash only consumer and never use any electronic method of getting around the world.

Very hard to control information in the information age! lol

I am sure that if Go does collect info that it is not very vital info.

But if they do there should be full disclosure if that is the case.

I don't use Go launcher so I can't really comment on their practices.
[Android Apps and Games] syrenz:
Gmail widget preview: http://twitpic.com/4e0u3k
[Android Apps and Games] BryanChung:
LauncherPro 0.8.4

http://www.launcherpro.com/
[Android Apps and Games] Vulpix:
When I went to google reader today, I saw the LauncherPro RSS with a (1) there, and the first thing I did was zoom in 300% and the click the link, the slap myself to make sure I'm awake.
[Android Apps and Games] BryanChung:
Hahha! So true that it's real!
[Android Apps and Games] bioan:
It's a really poor update.

The Gmail widget is really good, but LP needs something ... let's call it spicy :D
[Android Apps and Games] :
Poor? I don't know if you are running Gingerbread, but it is smooth as hell! Can't believe it myself :)
[Android Apps and Games] blackroseMD1:
I agree. It seems much more smooth now on CM7. I'm loving the new Flip effect as well.
[Android Apps and Games] syrenz:
I'm with you on this. Great for people running gingerbread (I'm not), but otherwise I've just gotten a gmail widget after a 2 month wait...
[Android Apps and Games] Vulpix:
Look on the bright side, LPP users got something out of the 2 months wait, while ADW Launcher EX users haven't gotten anything yet.
[Android Apps and Games] BryanChung:
I went back to LP to try .. but immediately I went back to GO because now I am used to having Folders in my App Drawer that LP does not have.
[Android Apps and Games] slsSpeC:
Definitely smoother now compared to when CM7 RC2 was released. I instantly changed back to CM6 until today.

There's also that big "re-write" that's still in the making. Hopefully it comes out soon as a lot of LPP users are getting pretty impatient over at the LPP forums.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] cishos:
can someone make a google voice and last.fm icon for the notification bar that matches gingerbread?
[Droid Incredible General] Essenar:
I need to switch from T-Mobile to Verizon. I just simply can't handle the dropped data connection. Sure 4G might be fast on T-Mobile (in some areas I'm getting 5 mbps) but on campus where I'm at 90% of the time, I don't get data at all.

I've heard Verizon tops out at about 1.5 mbps. Can anyone here confirm or dispel that?

How does the Incredible stack up? I know new phones are on the horizon, but I saw that the Incredible S doesn't have much over the other phones already out. The HTC Thunderbolt is nice but it's also $249.99. The processors aren't that much different.

I do like the front facing camera. The Thunderbolt does have 4G though. So I was considering getting the Incredible now and then exchanging for the Thunderbolt when it launches. (I have 30 days exchange since I'm in California)

What do you guys think?
[Droid Incredible General] PhillyCheez:
the processor is very different. it's 2nd gen and much more powerful. check out wirefly's presentation on the htc thunderbolt vs the evo. The thunderbolt destroys the evo.
[Droid Incredible General] wdfowty:
I am a t-mobile convert for the same reason, except 50% of the time I didn't get any service at all.

The Verizon network, in my opinion/experience, is vastly more reliable than t-mobile's spotty coverage.

When I switched, I went to wirefly.com and got my incredible for $20 brand-new-in-box when I added a line to a family plan. The deal is even better if you sign up for a new contract; the phone is FREE.

I cannot say the same for the thunderbolt or iPhone. I owned an iPhone2g (orig), and the only feature I miss is the integration with iTunes seamlessly. But that's the only thing I miss (aside from the sleekness). I haven't had great experiences with Apples, but that could be entirely different for you.

The iPhone almost requires extra accessories off the bat, like an otterbox case to protect the back glass plate from shattering (which is common), and, of course, the "Antennae-gate" fiasco. Haven't heard if this was solved in the CDMA revision, haven't heard otherwise either.

It really all comes down to what you want out of a phone. The Inc and the iPhone 4 have been out for over 6 months, whereas the Thunderbolt is bleeding edge (New sense ui, new graphics processor, HUGE screen.)

P.S.: just to throw a wrench in your gears, look at the Incredible S. Can you say SEXAY??
[Droid Incredible General] PhillyCheez:
I personally could not recommend the incredible cause it's becoming outdated fast. New sense ui, more ram, and better cpu are major improvements in the next batch of htc phones.

hell... being able to use htcsense.com with out a buggy desire z rom is worth waiting for.
[Droid Incredible General] Essenar:
I just completed my order for an HTC Droid Incredible.

Since I ordered today, I'll have until March 17th (February only has 28 days) to exchange it. I'm sure the Thunderbolt will be out by then.

If it isn't, I'll call Verizon and threaten to cancel my order and go to AT&T or something if they don't let me order a Thunderbolt to have that as my new phone.

Plus since I ordered with Best Buy, I get the Buy Back program for free!
[Droid Incredible General] zerocool79346:
You'll be able to trade out, and honestly (barring some ridiculous situation such as the T-bolt not lasting 2 hours on that battery or something else that would ruin its functionality) I would suggest doing it. The T-bolt's processor is LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than the Incredible out of the box, not to mention the ability to overclock to 1.7 ghz and remain stable. The GPU is very nearly twice as fast in the second-gen Snapdragon, and Sense 2.0 absolutely amazing as well. I love the Inc, its amazing compared to what I had (Eris), but the Thunderbolt (and upcoming Inc S) will be very nearly the same amount of improvement over the Inc.
[Droid Incredible General] cougar618:
no offence, but I hate that people do this. That's the exact reason VZW changed the return policy to 14 days, and I wouldn't be suprised if it decreases to 7 next year.
[Droid Incredible General] Incredible510:
Yeah the Incredible is great, but it is becoming outdated, and VZW will stop selling in March I believe. The Thunderbolt seems nice, although slightly large. Just beware of those 4G costs. You never know the pricing The Big Red will put for that service...

Also the iPhone is nice option, if you dont want Android...

*Lets not make this a Apple bashing post btw guys.
[Droid Incredible General] wdfowty:
No apple bashing. I just don't like them personally. lol

Honestly, I would own and use a Verizon iPhone 4, if it went on sale.

The screen is slightly smaller than the droid inc, but the pixel density is

instantly

noticeable...it's so rich and vibrant...

I think I would miss flashing roms WAY too much though, lol.
[Droid Incredible General] REDFOCZ:
I personally switched to the Dinc from the Evo... the Evo was nice just rather large for day to day use ... the Dinc is a good phone I bought mine used online so no contract and able to upgrade when the new phones come out this summer
[Droid Incredible General] QuickSilver98:
It's true that Verizons 3G typically tops out at 1.5 mbps. In my experience, its definitely good enough for web surfing, but really isn't great for tethering or downloading large files (videos, or app downloads etc).

yes, 2nd generation snapdragons are much more powerful than the 1st gen. Also, the gpu on the incredible isn't great so don't expect to play any graphic intense games.

I'd probably wait for a newer phone, they're right around the corner, unless you need one right now.
[Droid Incredible General] PhillyCheez:
There will always be a newer phone right around the corner in the android world. :D
[Droid Incredible General] Essenar:
Apparently Verizon doesn't care what you think.

The lady from Verizon I spoke to said Verizon is HAPPY to let me exchange my device for the Thunderbolt if that's what I want, within 14 days.
[Droid Incredible General] zerocool79346:
I don't agree with this at all. I've tethered and Skype'd for 3 or 4 hours with no issues whatsoever with the speed. The quality was not as great as my home connection, but it was fine for having no other alternative.
[Droid Incredible General] RobertMaurizio:
The incredible is an excellent phone. In all honesty, it anybody on Verizon would do well to wait until June to upgrade to an iPhone if that is the route they choose to go.

Android is an excellent platform, but iOS has it's virtues as well. Just depends on the experience you are looking for.

In my opinion, the Thunderbolt is not enough of an improvement over the Incredible to wait on it. At a certain point you reach overkill.
[Droid Incredible General] IISiDeK1CKII:
I'm surprised at the lack of apple bashing till now. I switched to an iPhone and I am moving back to android. I have an iPad for all my iOS gaming needs. I am done with the incredible though and moving to a fascinate.

To be honest, wait and see what the iPhone 5 is going offer (next few months you should start hearing rumors) before making a jump. iOS is only getting better and will more than likely have many of the features of Android without sacrificing build quality.

Good luck with your purchase either way.
[Droid Incredible General] PhillyCheez:
Why would you get the fascinate? Its JUST about to get froyo and a serious lag problem.

Sent from my ADR6300
[Droid Incredible General] khanam:
Don't get a samsung. Nuff said.

Sent from my desire z inc port.