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[Nexus S General] DigitaL BlisS:
I too am fairly disappointed with all of the new phones (including the NS to an extent).

Atrix = Plastic, and has Moto's locked down bootloader (major negative, and if it wasn't so locked down, I may have made an exception for its cheaper build quality).

Inspire 4G = Nothing too impressive, still has HTCs horrible mic and speaker quality and probably a ****ty digitizer/touch screen.

HTCs entire new lineup: No dual core? No gingerbread for the Incredible? Minimal upgrades at best.

SGSII = Plastic.

Nexus S = Plastic.

I may be old fashioned, but can anyone other than HTC make a $600+ Android phone that isn't plastic? Or what? Combine HTCs metal build, Moto's excellent speaker quality, Samsung's sensitive touchscreen, and then tack on the true Google experience -- and there you have it, the perfect Android device.

Until then, the iPhone still has an edge over Android with their polished build quality. I'm probably going to get attacked with fanboi'ism (even though I've owned 3 Android devices in the last 2 years), but whatever... it's true... There always seems to be trade offs with Android devices, whether it's build, or OS fragmentation - it drives me crazy.

I'm going to be picking up an Android fun to bum around with, and it's most likely going to be the Nexus S when and if it arrives to Rogers, just because it's the next iteration of the Nexus One. I'll put up with the cheap build quality (I'll try really hard not to drop it) and call it a day.
[Nexus S General] leyvatron:
Ill stay with my Nexy Sexy
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
I 100% completely agree in that point

why it is so hard for all the manufacture to put all the best stuff together and make a perfect phone?

seems like every manufacture only specializes in 1 thing, but not the rest of the phone.

personally i wanted a phone for work and fun, so the Nexus S fit the profile, just a bit disappointing in the reception area, and speaker, it serves better as a PDA than a phone

for my girl i got her a Moto because it's radio and speaker perfect, it will always get a signal, it was designed as a phone, and it works as a phone
[Nexus S General] DarkAgent:
I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.

P.S. Atrix might have a lot of things going for it, but the most major innovation I find in the Atrix is the huge battery and great battery life, without sacrificing phone size (in regards to thickness).
[Nexus S General] raiderep:
I'm sold on the idea of a google backed phone. Now I just need to save up for one of these and find a way out of my contract with sprint. I am just tired of the run around with updates between carrier/mfg. I think I am over the need for having the latest and greatest and can settle down with one device for a while until the newest nexus comes around. A small trade off in my opinion as I will still have the latest OS and support from great devs and plenty of time to save for the next one. Last plus for me is being able to get on a month to month service and no more contracts. I'm on my way over guys, just saving up some cash then its on ;-)

sent by an Epic4g through the cosmos
[Nexus S General] dinan:
Have you seen the LG Optimus 2X reviews? Force closes and crashes left and right... talk about half baked.
[Nexus S General] tommyz2kool:
So far none of these new phones make me want to give up my NS either.

Atrix - locked bootloader

SGS2 - too big, not a fan of the design - I want a search button!

LG 2x - its an LG lol

I may change my mind once I get to play with these phones :o
[Nexus S General] KeithRVA:
+1

I have a Nexus S and it's awesome. Stock Android is the only way to go.
[Nexus S General] DumbUglyDragon:
I'm not gonna lie. I'm still thinking of getting one, even with all the phones on the horizon. My upgrade from T-Mobile isn't until July. Tax return is burning a hole in my pocket... If only they had a car dock like the Nexus One...
[Nexus S General] ikarma:
Would it be dumb to get a dual core phone with QUAD CORE phones right around the corner?
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
i do not expect to see Quad cores on phones for any logical reason

specially before 2014

it took desktop CPU a while long while to go from dual core to quad cores, and then another long while to go from quad core to octo cores, and now we are at dozen cores

i expect to see a similar trend delay on the phone market

it'll be too zoom zoom to release quad core so close to dual core, they will lose the chance to milk the consumer dry before the quad cores are out

the technology is obviously there already, just business wise is not good for the pocket interest ;)
[Nexus S General] DumbUglyDragon:
The problem with this is: with the way technology progresses, you'll never buy anything, because something is always "around the corner"
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
it comes down to choices

i've always been on the Bleeding Edge side of the fence, i'll jump into anything new just to play with it for a few months and then move onto the next thing.

meanwhile being on the Bleeding Edge is fun, it's buggy and costly

i used to ... well still i'm playing that on the PC side of things, but it has pretty much flatoe the PC industry has slowed down a lot now, compared to like 10 years ago

but for the phone industry, it's the same old game as the PC, just now they are mobiles :D, so it's all fun again
[Nexus S General] RogerPodacter:
the enormous, mind blowingly huge best phone to get is the new galaxy s 2, simply because it now gets rid of the pentile pixel layout. that is where i may go next. super amoled is great and all. but look at regular lcd, how smooth it is. now realize that samsung have solved the problem and super amoled plus has the smoothness of lcd, with full 3 sub pixels, with super amoled color and contrast. game over, and a HUGE step forward.
[Nexus S General] xmRipper:
I would go for Galaxy S II if it was 4.0", but it isn't.

But I would like to see the new TouchWiz interface is ported to Nexus S.

However, I'll definitely buy a Galaxy Tab 10.1 ;)
[Nexus S General] ikarma:
NVIDIA just announced quad cores comming to tablets later this year and phones by the end of the year. They demoed a working tablet.
[Nexus S General] csmall:
One thing I am a little disappointed in with the Nexus S is the fragile feel. I'd love to rock this thing without a case but honestly I worry if I drop it it will be destroyed. With other brand Android devices I had no problem going naked and being a little more relaxed with the device. By other brands I guess I mean HTC and Motorola. I'd be tempted to go for one of these new handsets with better build quality, specs etc...

Also, I bought the Nexus S mostly for the stock experience and frequent updates. Root'n'ROM with the Nexus S doesn't make sense to be because at that point all that matters in the hardware. So if I want a custom ROM like Cyanogen I'll get an HTC with better hardware/build quality/community support and call it a day. Right now I'm still in the honeymoon phase with the stock android experience.
[Nexus S General] irishrally:
Some really nice phones coming out, most of which I played with at CES 2011. I was not impressed enough with any of them to have buyers remorse for picking up the NS. Then again, I'm a true Android geek and it would take a pretty badass phone to tare me away from the Nexus line.
[Nexus S General] fresh1015:
plus its a free hot spot and you dont get billed
[Nexus S General] cheetah2k:
WTF man! 2014???

You do know that Nvidia has laid out the scheduled release of quad core phones in 4Q 2011 don't you???

And Quad core tablets by August 2011 - Thats this year !!!

The best thing is that they've already got a fully working SOC (and showed off their demo tablet running benchmarks well over and beyond an Intel Core2Duo T7200!!), so they're all good to go for fab and production!!

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/...lets-by?icid=sphere_blogsmith_inpage_engadget

So while I love my Nexus S, and it is a good enough phone to last me till Dec 2011, bring on the Quad Cores baby!
[Nexus S General] m8ms48:
+1

I would go for Galaxy S II if it was 4.0" too.

I would also like to see the new TouchWiz 4.0 interface ported to Nexus S.
[Nexus S General] Lord_Buckington:
Just in time for the Nexus 3! Or whatever it's called

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus S General] morfy50:
I want the Nexus S too but I keep reading about all the problems with it, so I'm not sure anymore.

I'm waiting for the ATT band version to drop, then I'll have to make the hard choice. If not Nexus S I have no idea what I'll replace my N1 with.
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
there are no problems with the SNS

all the problems you read are minor issues, many of which have work around or fixes to it already
[Nexus S General] uskr:
I was on that same boat. But I decided to go ahead and try it. I went though a full month with the phone, using an AT&T chip (edge only) and I loved it. Having used multiple Android devices in the past, I have to say SNS is by far the best and smooth Android experience. And I found no problem whatsoever.

I returned the phone just this weekend to bestbuy, once I saw the AT&T version passed the FCC. I will just wait for it so I can use it 3g on AT&T.
[Nexus S General] ap3604:
I agree:

- 4.3 inch screen

- SuperAMOLED+

- 1650mAH battery

- 8mp camera

- Thinnest smartphone ever

- HSPA+

- TV output

- Dual core processor

- 1080p recording

- 1gb RAM

- MicroSD

- NFC

:eek:

These features are much too great to pass up. I used to believe in the whole "I will get updates straight from Google" with my Nexus One but the Gingerbread fiasco let me know that I can't trust Google to update any Nexus phone long term so instead I now just go for the best specs...
[Nexus S General] cheetah2k:
I'm sure there's a work around for the oleophobic screen defects coming too... :rolleyes:
[Nexus S General] Worsty:
Didn't Cyan mod 7 RC 1 get released to the HTC and N1/S phones 1-2 days ago? Surely that's way faster than waiting 1-1.5yrs for Froyo over with the Samsung Galaxy Variants over in the states.

And the reason N1 doesn't have the official release of Gingerbread yet is probably because, NS; being marketed as the FIRST phone with Gingerbread can't have N1 having 2.3 before it's even released in Europe and Asia etc.

If your N1 is already rooted, i'm sure you would already have options of installing Gingerbread roms. If not, why are you even using a Nexus line? Perhaps as you have mentioned, you're better suited for the Samsung Galaxy Sii.
[Nexus S General] benson12:
I've had several Android phones, starting with the T-Mobile G1, then the Google Ion, then the Nexus One. I sold that last year and got the iPhone 4 as I got sick of the lack of good apps and the fragmentation of Android (I realize it didn't apply to me with a Nexus One, but I still didn't like it). Now I'm looking to go back to Android. I still don't like the fragmentation, and I think it is dumb that you have to install a potentially buggy ROM to update on most phones. However, I miss Android. I love the native Google apps (especially since I use Google services for most everything). And I really want a larger screen. Don't get me wrong, the iPhone 4 screen is incredible, and no other manufacturer can match Apple in user interface or hardware quality. But Android makes up for those facts in other ways to me.

Anyway, all that said, I'm on AT&T, and the two phones I'm looking at are the Atrix, which comes out next week now, and the Nexus S, which may or may not come out in AT&T 3G bands in the next couple of weeks. I'd rather go Nexus S due to the real Google experience, and latest updates. But I like the idea of the dual core Atrix. A couple of you bring up good points in the go for the best specs debate, and then you can install a custom ROM. Another upside to the Atrix is that it is likely a great phone. Not that I care as much about that as others (I use an iPhone 4 which is one of the worst "phones" I've used with crazy dropped calls and whatnot).

So, I'm stuck. Granted, neither phone I'm looking at is out yet, but one will be early next week, and the other will be most likely out within a couple weeks.
[Nexus S General] dinan:
I like my NS but the bugs that it carried over from the Galaxy S are kind of annoying like the phone dropping signal and getting stuck entering/exiting airplane mode (Galaxy S did that to me as well). Hopefully google's claim that they have a fix will come through.

Anyway, the Atrix looks quite nice to me... higher res screen (although the colors look a bit dull from screenshots and the blacks look horrendous), bigger battery, dual core, 1 gig of ram, it's quite future-proof except for the lack of NFC chip. Coming with motoblur and 2.2 really sucks though, so I may wait until there's a CM7 for it to actually test it out. I guess the Galaxy 2 looks good too but it looks too much like an iPhone 4 knock off (much like how the original Galaxy was an iPhone 3GS knock off). Bigger screen with less pixel density... dunno if I even want a screen over 4" these days, at least it comes with 2.3 (touch wiz... ugh).

I'll just wait and see what the reviews are like and which dual core outperforms. For now, the NS is still king to me, near perfect experience save for one or two bugs that google claims they'll fix soon.
[Nexus S General] dman777:
Ya, the new phones aren't that much of a big jump ahead...IMHO. I barely put a dent in my CPU usage on my Nexus S phone(I do everything on it but game). I'm under the impression the dual core would only be beneficial if you game because of this.

4g...hehe...well, that is another story. If your using a phone company that has their 4g on high frequencies such a Tmobile and Sprint, your 4g will be pretty much useless unless your outside. Inside, these signals are so weak you get better preformance from 3g.

The new AMOLED plus screen will be nice and a worthy upgrade. But not at the price of having to use a locked firmware. I hate being dependent on a phone company for upgrades...it's a horrible feeling to have to wait and wait and wonder when. I love the feeling of being free with Google's phone.
[Nexus S General] ruthless10001:
I think Nexus S still has the most beautiful design...
[Nexus S General] nucentury08:
No dude your right iPhone 4 build is art man I love it and yes I own a nexus s dell streak Evo and desire HD
[Nexus S General] Fuse8499:
I will also be sticking with the Nexus S. It's the best phone I've ever owned. Nexus S + CM7 = Unbeatable!
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
Still love my sns more than any other phone I've owned.

Sent from my MattedBlues CM7 Google Nexus S!
[Nexus S General] zephiK:
NS.. dammit.. NS!

Nexus <anything> is better than any phone made for the general consumer. Simply because its maintained by Google so we're guaranteed open-source kernels/etc.

Nexus S is a great phone, I just wish that Google would of waited a little bit longer instead of rushing Gingerbread. The phone was already having great amounts of hype.
[Nexus S General] BlackOtaku:
Love my Nexus S, if it were my main phone I wouldn't need a new phone for awhile. Unfortunately, no T-Mobile service here = not my main phone. My main phone remains my Droid 1. Do you understand how inadequate the D1 feels in comparison?! :p

So, bring on the Droid Bionic. I still think that the Nexus will stay my favorite though. ;)
[Nexus S General] CB620:
I still have my eyes on the E7
[Nexus S General] Kurupt562:
im getting mines tomorrow woo
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
3600 on quadrant, 15 hours average battery life, beautiful screen, most up-to-date software version officially on the market...I don't know of another phone on the market with those properties.
[Nexus S General] Mshanahan:
I love my Nexus S, its a wonderful phone. I love getting the direct updates. ( Had a dell streak, update headache)

I went from being an iphone user for 4 years to owning a Dell Streak.

almost 6 months after being released and no official AT&T froyo.

I think the update was supposed to drop feb 1st, only 6 months behind.

But I will be tempted to switch once some of the 3D phones actually come out..

Although going 3D might just be a pain in the ass, it really depends on how well the companies intergrate
[Nexus S General] flp2222:
does anybody have a decent link to sales reports for SNS ?

wondering what is the real demand for this phone on the market...
[Nexus S General] allen099:
I had the MT4G for a while, and actually squeezed over a day out of the battery. I was very impressed. The Nexus S really is a hog. I listen to 1 hour's worth of downloaded Google Listen podcasts, and I'm already down to 89 percent when I get to work. Pretty sad.

Software-wise, this is a fantastic phone obviously. That's where it truly shines. i am impressed by the Atrix 4G as well, and once the devs can figure out how to unlock Motorola's "lock" on the various system partitions, it will be that much better.
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
The atrix is actually already rooted but the bootloader is still locked so no custom kernel on launch. I actually got about 49 hours out of my sns using morfics experimental UV kernel and I can easily get a 24+ hours when I knock my 40% over clock down to the stock 1GHz.

Sent from my MattedBlues CM7 Google Nexus S!
[Nexus S General] Babydollll:
I just ordered mine at about 7:30pm. One hour later I read on Engadget about the update to 2.3.3 for BOTH the NS and the N1. :p;):rolleyes:
[Nexus S General] johnkim0011:
I have a feeling that by the time Galaxy S II comes to the States, Nexus S will have Android 2.4, and they'll be behind once again. Pretty much the same case for the dual core phones that are already announced. Don't you think? ;)
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
I do indeed think so.
[Nexus S General] DumbUglyDragon:
Random reboot fix.... so tempted to move back to Nexus S!
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
true indeed

carriers specific phones will always lag behind a version or two of the AOS, as they need to pay the fee to get the upgrades from Samsung, Moto, or whomever is the manufacture

since those are not pure Google, they can't be distributed for free
[Nexus S General] myriccy:
+1, same with u.

Nexus S is my first smart phone, a hard decision between symbian, ios, and android. but this phone let me down due to the frequent miswork of backspace key, which driving me mad~~

I am doubting that whether I should send it back to Bestbuy or not.
[Nexus S General] irishrally:
I wouldn't bank on too many more symbian updates.
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
Nope, I wouldn't bank on any. And sure iOS gets updates but there are still a lot of issues with it.
[Nexus S General] kwiggington:
I almost got the galaxy 4g but went with the nexus might take a look at the pyramid when it comes out
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
Oh ya the pyramid looks cool.
[Nexus S General] compuguy1088:
Agreed, but google/samsung really needs to make a 800/1900 version of the nexus s, for me to be interested in it.
[Nexus S General] mrabcx:
According to Wikipedia Nexus S is 123.9 x 63 x 10.8 (mm) while for example the upcoming SGS 2 is 125.3 x 66.1 x 8.49 so it's just marginally bigger and thinner. I don't think the difference is that noticeable. The new HTC Desire S on the other hand is 115 x 59.8 x 11.6 which seems a more compact looking phone.
[Nexus S General] kwiggington:
Have not seen it yet but from what i heard its an evo on steroids
[Nexus S General] kwiggington:
The pyramid btw lol
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
I figured lol I loved my evo.

Sent from my MattedBlues CM7 Google Nexus S!
[Nexus S General] kwiggington:
Well this year def looking good phone wise
[Nexus S General] blix247:
I agree

I got the Nexus S on launch day, and have since had 2 separate updates to my phone (one of them today). Its that kind of support that you just don't get anywhere else. On Android or any other platform. I agree with those who say the hardware is a bit behind the curve, but in the end the frequency of updates is more than worth it.
[Nexus S General] kwiggington:
Def agree with you on that main reason why my choice was the nexus over galaxy 4g
[Nexus S General] kwiggington:
The incredible s looked sweet
[Nexus S General] Alopez_45:
After a period of time I could say that I officially own a Nexus S. I haven't used it I'm still waiting to activate it, even if it has been a couple times use. I like already. Let's just hope everything goes okay. :D
[Nexus S General] cheetah2k:
What you've stated is not not necessarily true. Its idiots like you that forget Android is open source (you know, free).

Its got less to do with payments and more to do with the release timing of the SDK to manufacturers, and their product positioning (marketing) as to what phone gets what OS version (eg, the SGS II will come with 2.3/2.4, but the original SGS won't be updated until the SGS II has had at least 3-6 months of market penetration and not long after the SGS will hit EOL)

And don't discount the other issues such as its up to each carrier to define what additional bloatware (software) they want on the new OS version and they have to provide code to the manufacturers who end up updating it appropriately to comply with the new SDK requirements and end up compling the carrier specific firmware.

And of course, there's testing before release to the public - which doesn't always go to plan and the firmware is pulled before it kills too many handsets (as what happened to the SGS 16Gb onboard storage on the Rogers handsets with the froyo release not long ago)

The list goes on - everything takes time (decisions decisions) and I know this from working in the industry.

On a lighter note, the Nexus S rules!
[Nexus S General] MohamadKarbi:
I ordered my NS and I hope I got it tomorrow. I've already sold my HTC Desire. I love Stock Android and I know I can get it through Cyanogen. However, I always felt that Cyanogen not totally working in same way as HTC Sense does. It might because of the hardware issue where HTC Sense might fit better. So with Nexus phone, I hope things would be better with Stock Android.

Even with NS, I guess I still need to root because of Arabic Language support. I just hope that after rooting I would still able to have better options/opportunities in Stock Android and updates than other phones.
[Nexus S General] CB620:
ill be satisfied when they upgrade all the video chat apps to support gingerbread
[Nexus S General] DumbUglyDragon:
Ended up getting one again. Couldn't help it. N1 was starting to feel in adequate. I really dislike all the phones T-Mobile had to offer. Just to used to the pure Android experience.
[Nexus S General] Mokurex:
You have great points, but there's no need for name calling.
[Nexus S General] skip24ftlb:
Well im on the fence at the moment. I was an early adopter of android with the htc hero. Wasnt impressed with how slow that phone was, and tmobiles uk update was so long coming. The android market was still in its infancy then. So I went back to my nokia n95.

Got an iphone 4... Why do people rave about them. Signal is rubbish. Yes it works and does what it does, but best phone out there. Your having a laugh. A phone I cannot make me own ? No, im really dissapointed with the iphone 4. Yes it has a nice screen. But I cannot make the phone my own such as putting my own message tone on it just for starters. Well you can by jail breaking and overwriting the firmware. Something Ive no wish to do.

Brings to the nexus s decision. I do like android. Really like the idea of updates from google and not tmobile. And I can do what I want with the phone. Or do I wait for the galaxy s2.

We all know the galaxy s2 specs are next generation. But them im stuck on waiting on updates from either tmobile uk or samsung if im lucky.

Whats your thoughts please ?

Paul