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[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
Ok just got the incredible s in, here is my short revieuw

Dev part:

;HTC Incredible S

%SingleAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0CAC

%CompositeAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0CAC&MI_01

Putting the last 2 lines in the usb_driver file works, can connect trough adb.

Still have to test a lot more before i can say something really usefull about what can and cant be done.

until now i can only reboot to boatloader, with adb reboot-bootloader:

info:

VIVO PVT SHIP S-ON RL

HBOOT-1.09.0000

RADIO-38.02.01.11_M

eMMC-boot

**** normal boot stuff.....

The feeling:

Its feels about the equal weight as the desire, as well as the dimensions, a little longer and wider, but the height is about the same. So i'm happy it will fit in to my pockets.

I had to get used to the little thing on the back, but surprisingly got used to it within seconds.

First boot:

When i first turned on the phone it was up REALLY fast like a few secs, but after that: it feld kinda sluggish, but thats usual, since everything had to be setup.

After i entered all my settings and configured it the way i wanted (got lost in sense so that took longer than expected) it felt pretty neat, but its olmost nothing compared to the desire (oxygen 2.0) with smoothness, it still has same laggyness in it.

Sound:

Since i own a HTC desire and can compare them, the sound is a little better, but still is kinda well how to say, nothing compared to headphones, but overall its not a media player, its a phone, so i'm okay with that.

Have not made a call yet so thats one thing that has to be tested (receive & speak)

* just received my first call: sounds good, no lagg, no hickups, clear and crisp sound, what u expect from a new phone .

Camera:

I have taken a few pictures with both camera's

Back:

Compared to the desire it looks quite brighter and overall it looks pretty good, but dont take pictures close to something, the flash will be to much, so i'm missing a autoflash method.

Overall it looks good, sharp and surprisingly well.

Front: looks ok, webcam style i would say. Quite handy when u want to take a picture of u & ur friends, but i think the quality of it could be way better, so i probabbly wont use it.

Apps:

The HTC has allot of applications on it on default, which i probably wont be using so thats a waste for me (and that's why i'm here :p).

First thing i found very handy is the Car Panel app, since i drive alot it seems quite handy.

The Transfer Data app seems very likely to be used (not by me) but it will let you transfer all your settings (sms, contacts and alike) to the incredible.

Overall:

Withing the 2 hours i received this phone and wrote this report i think its a nice upgrade from the desire. If you want the most, best and greatest phone in the world, skip this one. The sound is better than the desire, but not that great. The apps are a little overkill to my findings. The camera is good, but front i wont use. So nothing to complain! (just my opinion)

Cant wait to run custom roms on it!

Greets timbo007up
[HTC Incredible S] gudge:
Good review, but I have to say I experienced no lag at all so far, everything is super fast.
[HTC Incredible S] xspyda:
Thanks. This was my main concern and in the absence of any replies here I went to try one out myself in store. I think much the same from the experience I had (brief), the speaker is not upto much at all and whether it's any better than the Desire I have to take your word for that as I skipped the Desire for this very reason!

Sure, it's a phone so perhaps sound isn't important to some but let's not forget that phones these days are becoming convergence devices more and more and to me it's unforgivable (when the technilogy is clearly there) not to include a decent speaker, or even two! Watching news clips and youtube videos are made all the more pleasurable when listening to decent sound and being able to do so without headphones IMO.

I'm still very much undecided on thsi handset. Interested to hear about battery life as this has always been the achilles heel of Android devices.

Still think £500 is too much for this phone, nice though it may be!
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
Most of the time it is very fast, but when I'm sliding screens just after wake its somewhat baggy when doing it fast, but in normal use you don't do that :p

@xspyda

U got a good point there with the sound, they should have implemented it, but its not really important for me, videos I watch @pc or with headphones anyhow.

About the battery drain: fully charged it yesterday evening 10pm and its now almost empty with pretty intensive usage (watch movies, lots of browsing, pulling files from the network and so on). So normal use should be around 1 to 2 days.

* I did not charge in between btw.

Can't wait to root and put an improved Rom on it haha.

Greets timbo007up
[HTC Incredible S] xspyda:
That's pretty good going, especially when watching videos. I can live with that!
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
I was also very surprised with that, it was only about 15 to 20 min video, but still very good.

Btw if the sound is important to you I don't recommend this one, for everything else its great, won't make a week without charge but for a smartphone its damn good haha

Off to sleep long day tomorrow so no testing from this side. Over and out.
[HTC Incredible S] anton79ru:
G'day to all. Guys, I have a psychological problem and I probably just need some good kicking back into the limits of common sense. But if your own experiense and feelings say otherwise, please also let me know.

I've had a Desire HD for 3 months now and I can't say I have any problem with it. The battery life and the phone speaker loudness are sufficient for me in most cases. I wish whey were better, but I can't say I absolutely need them to be better. The screen size is just right.

Now I see Incredible S out with quite a number of small improvements. And when I compare the two devices in the entirety of their characteristics, I can't help feeling somehow castrated.

Is Incredible S worth selling my DHD and spending extra money? Is there anyone among you who would still choose DHD? I know I'm encouraging you to say what I want to hear. But please be true.
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
Shortly: no

If its the sound that you're want to switch its a really hard no.

So I'm curious why you want to switch. Based on what improvements. And the DHD is already a few months old but still very good compared to this one.

I can't really compare since I only own a classic desire, so give us some more (in depth) info about the why, then we can give you a better yes or no.
[HTC Incredible S] anton79ru:
1. Battery. Although it has never occurred to my DHD to get discharged when I still had stuff to do, it's just about the feeling of more safety.

2. Speaker volume during conversations. Not the loudspeaker on the back, because I don't care about it. Right now I normally hear my interlocutor well enough and understand every word. But if I had the possibility to boost it a bit, I'd do so, because I feel more comfortable hearing louder speech.

3. Body design. The DHD has those plastic parts on the back that do not join the metal body perfectly.

4... No, I'm out of reasons. Wanted to mention the size but I'm not sure if I want a smaller screen.

The question is not if it's worth the money, because I don't really care about that (not that I have plenty - I just don't care). The question it whether I should reasonably be feeling this way.

And yes, I know I'm a freak - my wife told me that.

Heel hartelijk bedankt!
[HTC Incredible S] timbo007up:
The first 2 parts are not for me to answer, perhaps l0st.profit can give you a better compare about that one.

About the back: it feels very solid, almost like leather, but I get sweaty hands from it. But I get that very quickly.

Hope i gave u enough info, but I won't decide if you have to buy it, personally I wouldn't do it. But try to pm l0st.profit about the comparing to DHD.

Global with that!

Freak or not, I'm always willing to help. I'm also kinda freaky, that's why I'm here ;)

Edit: fail autocomplete... It has to be l0st.prophet
[HTC Incredible S] xspyda:
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I should probably start by pointing out that whilst I spent a good week or more with the DHD, I was able to spend only minutes with the Incredible S and under the watchful eye of the sales assistant!

I have neither of these devices currently but have obviously considered them both at different times. If I was to buy one outright now I would certainly go for the Incredible S over the DHD. In your position however, currently owning the DHD I would stick with it and be happy with it - my main reasoning for this being that as the DHD can now be bought for around £370 there is no way you will be able to recoup the value of the device and would likely end up paying a chunk on top to 'upgrade'.

The IS is supposed to sit in between the DHD and the yet to be released Desire S but if this is the case, surely the price tag should reflect that placing? My big annoyance with the IS is its price tag - I really don't think it's worth the £499 that CPW are asking for it (although it can be had for £459 on PAYG). For what is essentially a run of the mill device by today's standards I wouldn't feel comfortable forking out that amount.

The IS itself feels very nice once you get used to the strange moulded back casing, although I am not keen on the antenna being built into the back cover as this I would imagine will make it expensive to replace down the line. The size of the IS is much more preferable (to me at least) to the DHD as I always thought this was a little on the large side which made one handed operation awkward at best.

Personally, I have been trying to find a replacement phone for my aging Nokia for around 18 months and in that time I have tried pretty much all the high end devices (at least those I am interested in). During this time, each and every phone has failed me for one reason or another and this has taught me that there is no perfect phone, only one that best fits my requirements at the time and with the speed of technology evolving, there always seems to be something just around the corner!

My take on the yet to be released dual core phones is that they are overkill ... for the moment and nothing announced at Mobile World Congress has changed my opinion of that.

If the camera was a little better on the Incredible S and the speaker quality was something approaching that of the Samsung Nexus S or Galaxy S, I would have one like a shot. The 4" screen is really the largest I am prepared to go which rules out the Galaxy S II that everyone is raving about.

I'm pretty sure if I was to run out and buy the Incredible S I would be happy with it but I fear that I would always be looking out for something to better it. If I am going to drop £500 on a phone it HAS to hold my interest for a good couple of years and I just wonder if the technology employed by HTC in designing the IS (although very capaple) is a little outdated to compete in today's market.

That's a long winded way of advising you to stick where you are and as I say, enjoy the DHD but I really hope it's given you some insight as to how I reached my conclusion?!

Good Luck!
[HTC Incredible S] bitpatrol:
Strangely in my case, I read a lot about the DHD and then saw the IS ... I opted to buy the IS, now I need to tell, the IS here can be found for about 400£ without transport, but maybe it's just coincidence.

But I don't really understand you about the better camera ... 8MP is not enough? Or is it the quality. I'm still convinced that if you're looking for a good camera, don't buy a phone. But if you're looking for a phone with a fine camera ... Well ... I'm thinking this will suffice? No?
[HTC Incredible S] Ballistic_78:
May I ask please from where to buy Incredible S online with 400£, because I only found it unlocked in CPW for more than you are talking about. I also want to mention that that HTC incredible S isn't available till now in Amazon US nor UK.
[HTC Incredible S] bitpatrol:
Well ... As I said, here (country: Belgium) it can be found for about 400£ (457.00 EUR = 393.121 GBP) not including postage/transport. The site is HERE

Now I don't know why they are this price, not looked into it, just ordered because I thought it was a great price. I just got word that my item is shipped and should be arriving tomorrow or Thursday latest.

Also, I'm afraid they won't send to other countries either ... Can't find any info on that to be fair. I know they have a store in the Netherlands too, but same story, they only ship to the Netherlands :s
[HTC Incredible S] xspyda:
You haven't seen the Nokia N8 then?

8mp is fine but it's not all about the mp count, as has been said many times. The quality of the optics is what's important here. Sadly HTC are not renowned for attention to detail in this department.

Check out some N8 examples and you will see what I mean.
[HTC Incredible S] bitpatrol:
Haven't seen the difference, I'll take a look, thanks for the tip.
[HTC Incredible S] Jootje123:
Hi there,

just wanted to share my opinion and thoughts on the matter.

I currently own a HD and am very much contemplating exchanging it for an IS. I have never had any experience with the IS or held it in my hand, so i have no way to compare it to the HD other than specs and my experience with the HD.

The reasons why i want to change (and please tell me if i should think otherwise, am just very intrested in what you guys think):

1: My biggest annoyance: the part that covers the SIM and SD card. On my phone (one of the very first batches) it does not fit at all. It causes severe loss of GSM or WIFI and it cracks. I am now talking to HTC about my 3rd (!) replacement. They however do not think i'm elegible for a replacement phone. Do they seriously expect me to ask for replacement parts every 2 months?? (owned sins octobre) (very very annoyed!!)

2: Battery. (speaks for itself)

3: Volume buttons. mine don't work for ****. My guess is because the bad part that goes over the battery. another BIG flaw of the HD.

4: Call me spoiled, but the battery cover part is just annoying the **** out of me. I expect more from a phone i payed 500 euro's for...
[HTC Incredible S] xspyda:
I know exactly where you are coming from with the build quality Jootje123. Mine was one of the first too and suffered from a badly fitted sim cover that I had to resort to double sided sticky tape to fix and the volume buttons were't particularly positive.

I know these were common complaints of early DHD's, I'm not sure if the problem was resolved in later batched.

I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the better screen on the IS. There is a photo that's been posted somewhere in this forum that shows a marked difference in quality between the two.
[HTC Incredible S] DuoM:
I did a side by side, picture by picture comparison between the Incredible S and the Desire HD today with the Hero as a control and the screen on the Incredible S does a better job of displaying colours than the Desire HD. The colours on the HD are just washed out.
[HTC Incredible S] anton79ru:
Thanks to timbo007up and xspyda, I have reached an interim decision, which I think I should share here:

If you are in the middle of making your choice between Desire HD and Incredible S, you should definitely get an Incredible S at least because of a better battery, better screen and more adequate back cover design.

If you already own a Desire HD, there is no reasonable justification for immediately replacing your device with an Incredible S, unless at least one of the two statements below is true for you:

1. You are really pissed off with your DHD (which is probably Jootje123's case);

2. You totally fall in love with the Incredible S (I've seen that happen more than once too).

The first statement is not true for my DHD, because (1) the battery hasn't failed me once so far; (2) I'm completely satisfied with the screen - both the size and the colors; (3) my SIM cover fits perfectly and I find it more convenient because I have to change SIM cards frequently.

In any case, I do not advise you to make your final choice before actually holding an Incredible S in your hands and thoroughly examining it for build quality and tactile and visual satisfaction, because due to the similarity of the technical characteristics of the two devices, your choice will mostly depend on your subjective perception.
[HTC Incredible S] Jootje123:
Thanks for the insight unki.

I had the phone in my hands yesterday and had some time to play with it and compare it to my DHD. I must say I am quite charmed by the IS. The colours in the screen are much nicer, the size is nice and the overall feel of the device is of better quality than my current DHD.

That being said, HTC is picking up my DHD for a Refurb tomorrow. My hope is that they will send me a new one out of the newest batch which does not have some of the flaws that my device has. For the time being I am waiting what happens with my current phone. If they fix it i might just wait a bit untill the price of the IS drops a bit. As it is now i will have to pay quite a bit extra to get an IS since my DHD won't sell for much second hand. And for now I just don't know if it's worth it right now...
[HTC Incredible S] samrit86:
Best post in this thread, in my opinion.
[HTC Incredible S] bakili:
Got my IS yesterday - well pleased. What a phone!

I loved my DHD but it was getting old so swapped to Samsung Galaxy S2 - total waste of money, touchwiz horrible, 2.3.3 is not meant for dual core yet. Overall phone was performing a lot worse than my DHD. So decided to sell SGS2 and get another HTC. Paid £300 for brand new HTC IS, and very pleased with it.

It is like smaller version of DHD, or its like very powerful Desire.

So far no complains on IS, battery life great - 11hr use (sync on, wifi on, played 30 min games, made few phone calls, browse Internet) and it still on 50%.

Sound quality very good, phone rings loud as well (DHD had really quite speakers). Sound quality in call is good and clear.

I got phone yesterday, and did update straight away to 2.3.3. After update phone received another update notification but unfortunately it still on 2.3.3.
[HTC Incredible S] bigmachine:
did the update to gingerbread cause any drops in wifi signal? just want to know if this happens cuz of all the death grip issue surrounding desire s and sensation ..
[HTC Incredible S] bakili:
No my wifi always on, no signal drops. I know what you mean, I experienced same problem when updated DHD to 2.3.3. Wifi was dropping every time when i had better network coverage than wifi coverage.

With HTC IS no issue so far, it runs unbelievably fast compare to my DHD and SGS2.
[HTC Incredible S] bigmachine:
alright, thanks for the info... im still checking whether to get the IS or opt for a newer model Sensation :confused:
[HTC Incredible S] bakili:
I would get Sensation if I could afford it. A lot of people saying that 2.3.3 is not working good with dual core phones. I would first check on Sensation section any issues with phone or wait until 2.3.4 released.
[HTC Incredible S] ftgg99:
I have just bought this phone. It was something of an ideology change for me, a return to the days of the droid - theres just something in the feel and design, more of a successor than anything moto have done.

4.3 inches is just too large, and now that there are adequate android tablets out there is no more use for that much info on the screen.

I love the slcd display - the sun has been relentless today and despite all my reservations it performs significantly better than my dhd.

Everyone i know wants a sensation but are waiting for the price to drop. I however am glad to get my face out of the phone and enjoy the summer :)
[HTC Incredible S] f!rstbl00d:
No clue about the signal drop after the update, works fine for me.
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[HD2 General] kidcash:
Hello People,

I'm wondering which is the best and most stable ROM for the HTC HD2. I've got one but I had problems with the Phone, reception would go bad sometimes, after it came back from Warranty from Hong Kong they put another ROM on where the phone problem is fixed, but it's unstable, freezes to a "HTC" Screen with green letters, after this requires a battery out and battery back in.

Anyway just looking for a ROM with Performance, Functionality and Stability in mind. What is the "Latest and Greatest" that you guys are using? I know opinions differ but hopefully I can get a general consensus.

Thanks Guys.
[HD2 General] tictac0566:
The "best ROM" discussion rarely brings a consensus... because the "best ROM" will always be the one you personally like best.

Imho, it is worth to try a few ones; since the flashing process is really fast with your HD2, everything is done quickly.

Almost all opinions about speed, stability, cooked-in apps etc. can always be read in each ROM thread - you don´t have to read everything, concentrate on the last couple of pages - and of course the first postings to see the design etc., the description of the chef him/herself.

Last, but not least, I believe almost nobody would claim official stock ROMs would be best... too much bloatware, odd versions, whatever. Most of that strange stuff is ironed out by the custom ROM chefs.
[HD2 General] kidcash:
Thanks for the Reply,

I have been reading on how to Upgrade the SPL to 4.2, since I need it in order to Install Hard SPL, There is a certain file that I need to put on my Storage card but I can't find it, I thought there would be a link to it on the ROM Flashing Guide Stickies?

Thanks.
[HD2 General] tictac0566:
Well, it depends a bit from where you start.

When your current SPL version is below 3.03, no need to put anything onto your SD card, just flash HSPL with HSPL2.exe or HSPL3.exe - and go directly for 2.08.HSPL.

When your current SPL version is actually 3.03, you need to put a stock ROM image, which is very specific to your device, onto the SD card, and downgrade the SPL this way in a first step. Since this is really specific, there cannot be a generic link - except this one here (scroll down to "ROM sources"), where you´ll find links to many stock ROMs.

In the very same thread, you´ll find tutorials how to flash via SD card (eg. including how to extract a ROM image in order to put it onto your SD card).
[HD2 General] kidcash:
Thanks,

Oh I thought it HAS to be 1.42 SPL in order for hard SPL install to work, that's what the Guide says. So is the real advice anything Below 3.03?

I'm downloading a old ROM for the HD2 from 2009, hopefully that will have a old SPL, but will it let me install it on my HD2, I recall the Installer on stock ROMS only allowing them to be installed on the HTC from the certain region e.g Hong Kong roms only work on Hong Kong HD2's, in that case finding a stock rom will be hard. Or is that not true?

Thanks.
[HD2 General] tictac0566:
In fact, to run custom ROMs, Android NAND ROMs or WP7 on an HD2, HSPL 2.08 is mandatory at this time. All devices with SPL 1.xx and 2.xx can more or less easily be flashed to HSPL 2.08.

Because there is no HSPL for SPL 3.03 yet, you have to make that downgrade first to 1.xx, after this, it´s easy to go to 2.08.HSPL.

As long as your device is unbranded (eg. not from an operator), it´s quite simple to find which region stock ROM is for you: Check the download options at htc.com support by entering the serial number of your HD2.