yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Phone 7 General] SharpGIS:
For those asking for offline: As long as you calculate the route while online, the app WILL contitnue to work offline. You wont see the map background, but you will see the blue route-line, upcoming turns, get turn notifications etc.

True offline capability with map tiles is quite an undertaking, but might be something that will be worked into the core api that this is buit on top off - However this could be quite a while. For now this is an online app, and dont expect to see an offline feature in the near future.

For those asking for other countries: You're barking up the wrong tree. I do not own or control the data behind the route calculations, so it's outside my reach. I don't think people realize how hard it is to even compile such a dataset - both price wise and quality wise. This would definitely make it a quite expensive app to buy. The number of bad reviews i got because it doesn't support their country (despite the description clearly states this) has made me think i'll only release the update in supported countries (the reason I did all of the world was so you could still use it when on vacation elsewhere).
[Windows Phone 7 General] jabtano:
I have been using this in its current state. When this app is done and finally placed on the MP, be that free or paid it's one app that is on my must have list. Even better that it’s being developed by an independent coder rather than some major Nav company.
[Windows Phone 7 General] SharpGIS:
i don't get why that should be a good thing?

You are obviously also guessing here with no knowledge of my resume :-) While I did write this as a fun extracurricular project, I do happen to work for the world leader in mapping software. :) This app is primarily a demo of the WinPhone API we develop (what's why it says demo). The feedback and error reports collected doesn't only benefit this app, but also the API.

Note that you could easily build this yourself too. Just go to http://esriurl.com/wp7 and get the bits for free. Building this app is really not that hard when you have these bits. I would love to see other takes on how a routing app could be done (or any other mapping/GIS related app).
[Windows Phone 7 General] theo80:
So this means that the map data is separate from the routing data, as you say that if the routing data is loaded while online then the application preserves the data without the map overlay even if offline. If we can figure out a way to cache map data into an offline database then this could be done.

There are a couple of ways to do this, sample is NaviComputer but the problem is WP7 has no way to transfer map files from PC to phone. So the other feasible solution is to use Mapdroyd process which has "map packs" that the phone app uses to download map data, but their map format is proprietary.

All of the above statements seem to support that an offline navigation software for WP7 is definitely possible, but still need some time to develop. Keep up the good work SharpGIS! I'm looking forward to seeing the offline version, and if I see it soon I might just purchase a WP7 phone right after your release :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] ycavan:
As an offline "solution", I think it'd be nice for a user in the united states to set their "home" city so when A-to-B first starts it checks to see if the user's "home" map has been updated and downloads new map data. When routing, 80% of the time, the app would be an offline gps because most users drive around their home city.

Another option that would be nice would be to allow the user to decide if s/he would like to download their "home" state and check to see if there were updates when A-to-B starts. This would cover about 95% of the driving a user does.

Then, when a route is plotting through multiple states, A-to-B could download state maps for each state that the chosen route drives through.

Word of warning here... we are talking upwards of 2 gigabytes of data could be downloaded. ( based off my TomTom map of the US/Canada @ 2 gigs )
[Windows Phone 7 General] tchitchicruise:
Wouaou!! Very nice work SharpGIS!

work fine, i like to change streetmap to aerial map!

in navigation Menu; hours, arrival are not translated to french language, and the same for optional menu; new destination, clear route etc etc..

perhaps in another version... :-)

you are an professional man!!

:-)
[Windows Phone 7 General] jackleung:
Thanks Morten for the app although I personally would prefer an offline GPS software (that's why I still can't dump my WM phone at the moment). BTW, are you still working in ESRI now as my wife is still working over there (the Redlands HQ).
[Windows Phone 7 General] nebc100:
Hello All,

I just thought that I would let you all know that I contacted Navigon to ask them if they have any plans on making Navigon Select available to all users rather than only to Telekom users. Here is the response that I had:

>Dear Mr. Cross,

>Thank you for your e-mail. We are glad to be of assistance.

>Regarding your query, we have to inform you that our NAVIGON software for other >networks is still under development and we do not have an exactly date about when it will >be released.

>We hope we have been helpful with the information above and we are at your entire >disposal for further queries.

>

>

>Yours sincerely,

>Kurt Maverick

Hope this gives hope to any of you waiting (like I am) for a proper offline TBT GPS application.
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Jones:
This looks like a lovely app. I have an issue though. I am in the UK and have version 1.1. I cannot find any locations in the UK at all. The app finds my location from GPS just fine and will route if I manually pick an end point, its just the searching for location.

Can entering just a postcode work? Should it work?

Thanks
[Windows Phone 7 General] pillsburydoughman:
I say enough with the baby steps, go all out and add voice nav etc. Make it big!
[Windows Phone 7 General] ycavan:
Is 1.1 being beta tested or something? I have yet to receive an update notification on my 1.0
[Windows Phone 7 General] jklier:
I got an update notice for 1.1 this morning. After updating it was crashing with a page full of errors. I uninstalled and re-installed. It's working fine now. It is showing as 1.1 after the re-install.
[Windows Phone 7 General] BikerCVG:
Ver 1.1 update

I had the same problem after the update but also did the uninstall/reinstall. I have had this problem with other apps after a update.

Love the disable screen lock…. Tonight I will have to see the auto dim @ sunset…

I gave it 2 thumbs ups before, now I need help from someone to give this a 3rd thumb… Can’t wait to see what is next. :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] sure haven't:
Wow yeah the update is a huge jump. I've got a 40 min commute, gonna try it tonight.

The map loads -instantly- now. And I love the new settings, features, etc.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jabtano:
I like this app a lot next to Ztitch it's my most used app.
[Windows Phone 7 General] adesonic:
Great app, works perfectly for me in the uk.
[Windows Phone 7 General] noodles222:
Hi,

just installed 1.1 When i open the aplication it says Waiting for GPS fix but nothing happens.. I am from Slovak republic, i guess our country is not supported or ??
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Wow good job this version seems to work good in holland :) the dutch translation is a bit ghetto though, and the text like distance etc. Dont get translated unfortunately. But it looks good and seems to work and finds adresses now. Thank you
[Windows Phone 7 General] jabtano:
It updated today. now it no longer works =(
[Windows Phone 7 General] fulat:
uninstall and install it back from marketplace will work again
[Windows Phone 7 General] tchitchicruise:
A-to-B v1.1 is on the market !!

:D
[Windows Phone 7 General] noodles222:
Hello, when i open the aplication i see the map and message WAITING FOR GPS FIX.. it stays like that.. I cant do any routing.. thanks for replies
[Windows Phone 7 General] jabtano:
Ok that worked thanks
[Windows Phone 7 General] Jim Coleman:
Version 1.1 is a great improvement and it *almost* works well enough for me. The main issues now are;

Routing doesn't seem to take account of traffic regulations such as one-way or no-entry roads.

The route does not automatically recalculate if you have to deviate from it.

It is so nearly there though, do keep up the good work! :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] Keefo:
Cant find any locations on 1.1 when i search?

im in the UK...

do i have to fill all sections in?

i tried that and just Postcode and still nothing...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Theguru1:
@keefo good question nor can i...postcode does not work...please help for UK'ers
[Windows Phone 7 General] jackleung:
1.1 works great. One feature I do like in my iGo8 is automatic overview mode when the next waypoint is beyond a configurable distant and I wish it could be include in the upcoming release. Or make a 1 touch button (or the whole screen) to switch between navigation and overview mode.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ycavan:
I think A-to-B uses a Bing API for routing and MS explicitly forbids apps from automatically recalculating. That's what Morton said a while ago.

On another note... Waypoints. :) I wish A-to-B had POI's, like gas stations, restaurants, etc... & the ability to select one, or more, as waypoints so A-to-B calculates the route to the waypoint, but never forgets the end destination.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Jim Coleman:
To those of you in the UK who can't get A-to-B to find a destination, you may have the country at the bottom of the address form set to USA (this seems to be the default). You may have missed that, because it is hidden by the keyboard. Change it to UK and it will work.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Theguru1:
nope it still doesn't work...UK
[Windows Phone 7 General] kingmiddle:
this application is really good! I advice you all ^ ^ and more free
[Windows Phone 7 General] Jim Coleman:
It works fine for me...have you definitely put UK in the country field? Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the app? Tried different addresses?
[Windows Phone 7 General] noodles222:
Hi ,

just to check: Do i need to be online to use this aplication? when i am not connected via WIFI I cant see the map..thanks
[Windows Phone 7 General] theo80:
Yes. If you want offline please check Navigon.
[Windows Phone 7 General] psycho1:
i love this app but i had to do a reinstall of my os and now this app is no longer on the marketplace.. please tell me how i can get this app back
[Windows Phone 7 General] psycho1:
what happened to this app on the market place,, i reinstalled my os and now a to b is not avalible anymore.. help
[Windows Phone 7 General] zxcv888:
same here, reinstalled my OS and a-to-b is goneeeee

someone please upload the xap...
[Windows Phone 7 General] SharpGIS:
Sorry guys. Had to remove it for legal reasons.

And PLEASE, DO NOT redistribute the .xap if you have it. It will get you into a lot of trouble.
[Windows Phone 7 General] psycho1:
That really sucks... This was the best navigation for windows... Now there is nothing with while.. I used this everyday ... Damn reflashing...
[Windows Phone 7 General] skwarek:
Try Drive On. Just found that in marketplace. It supposed to be for US, but it works here in Canada. Seems promising.
[Windows Phone 7 General] munkeyphyst:
The Zune link to drive on. Have not used it yet so I have no input on it.

zune://navigate/?phoneappid=08a036d6-176d-e011-81d2-78e7d1fa76f8
[Windows Phone 7 General] munkeyphyst:
please expain how it will get someone into a lot of trouble?
[Windows Phone 7 General] SharpGIS:
Seriously? *sigh* Well first of all, you are redistributing an app without the owners consent (mine). That is called software piracy!

Second of all, you are redistributing an app that violates several patents that major companies own, and who are very eager to defend them.
[Windows Phone 7 General] munkeyphyst:
Thanks for the clarification. That's good information to know. Much better than a nebulous threat of "a lot of trouble"

It was a pretty good app. I appreciate your work. Too bad it's been canned. :/
[Windows Phone 7 General] sensboston:
SharpGIS, could you tell us your story (just curious). U received a cert letter or lawyer call?
[Windows Phone 7 General] rmcgraw:
Edited this because I didn't see that this was taken down.
[Windows Phone 7 General] shift_pump:
Damn I thought I had made it to a gold-mine thread, until I read the last few posts :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] Daanmannetje:
thats to bad! I really miss a good turn by turn navigation app on wp7 now. Others only work in countries i dont live in ( Netherlands ). And as credit cards from here cant be used, i guess i just have to wait...
[Windows Phone 7 General] sensboston:
Use Navigon, should work in Netherlands.
[Vibrant General] Virtuososteve:
Very nice
[Vibrant General] eunkipark92:
I

good signal poor battery , poor signal good battey
[Vibrant General] hitman818:
Can you make one for axura?
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
Yea im doing Axura now, im at KA6 right now

Edit: Remember im using Eugene's sure Input/Output Kernel!!!!
[Vibrant General] Dgameros:
Can you make one for Trigger too?
[Vibrant General] da_dragon2k3:
Request: add info about gps. Which modem gave the quickest lock, most accurate, stayed on course, etc. either way thanks for the useful info
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
Thanks bruh...

I figured id help people make better decisions when flashing different modems.

And to realize that ROMs had an effect on modems...I had to let everyone know!!
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
Trigger will be next weeks test starting monday.
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
as far as gps I dont use it at all so i never tested it, but you can probably judge by the data speed i posted.

Sorry dude :o
[Vibrant General] SimeonAS89:
This is VERY useful, especially to those who don't know much about what their flashing.

I wish their was some kind of system we could use where users submit feedback, almost like a poll in a way. Instead of having to go through pages of feedback, why not have one system and give feedback that way? Almost like what you've done with the ratings and performance of these modems.
[Vibrant General] drizze99:
Wow dude! I have always wondered this but never had the time to try it out. This is definitely helpful information! Thank you for taking the initiative to do this testing for us.
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
Well now people can come here for a good view on what the modems are like when flashing, them....but location does matter, and remember these results wont be for everyone!!
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
your welcome, this wonderful community deserves it.

Dont forget the thanks button
[Vibrant General] Sdobron:
This is great. Is there a database for location as well albeit hard to test for one person.
[Vibrant General] Infoport:
question: what order are the ratings?

Very Low, Poor, Good, Medium, High, Great?

Poor, Very Low, Medium, Good, Great, High?

and how much spread is there between them? i.e. how much difference between adjacent terms? I expect that the lowest is not a zero, so the range above must be divided by the ratings, maybe in an even manner?

Thanks!

William
[Vibrant General] a400meter:
Wow excellent work. Could you possibly add a legend of the different descriptions. Example fast data ~ 5mbit, medium data ~3mbit, slow data ~1mbit. Good signal ~... Etc,etc...

Note: just made these numbers up as an example. And of course data speeds will varry based on location.

Thanks again for sharing! Great work.
[Vibrant General] Dmkjr:
+1
[Vibrant General] hotadef:
I wonder does those results change by kernal too
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
Thats actually not a bad idea, luckily I wrote that stuff down, Ill edit the post later.

Dont forget to hit the Thanks Button!!
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
So it's still up to the person to flash and find out which one works best for them....

nothing new at all....
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
I dont think so as much, but its worth a try, just gimmie a kernal to test With all of em except CM 6.1 and ill test it out
[Vibrant General] NhocCuteGirls:
Very nice

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[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
Yea Pretty much, this post was mainly to show people that their data,signal, and partial battery drain come not only from location for data and service bars, but the ROM effects it as well.

and i only tested all these one kernal but i dont think the kernal has much effect on it because i have a second vibrant as another test device and i really saw no difference
[Vibrant General] Settai:
Very nice to have this info in one spot should probably get this stickied or at least add it to the bible
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
i thought people knew this already..

guess not.

thx for the post
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
Your welcome, ive browsed your modem thread and people just kept asking these questions so i decided to post it all here, but it should be pretty obvious from the OP that it depends on the Location/ROM/Modem

is it ok if i link your page here
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
sure.............
[Vibrant General] mmelo76:
Included in the list of sticky:

**"please read before posting - sticky threads"**
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
thanks, its a real honor
[Vibrant General] sghsgh11:
+1 I'll definitely check back on this thread
[Vibrant General] MoWeb:
Dude, all he did is just add it to the sticky thread which is sort of an "honor" since you posted something so useful.

You posted it in the correct thread no worries. :)
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
hahaha

I was going to say the same thing

;)
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
You sure because thats what i thought and I was happy.

But when I looked i didnt see it, all i know is that my thread was moved from development into General.

I had it in Development because most people stop there and they would get this info.

He also moved my CM7 Rom thread to genereal and it had a ROM in it

like?!?!?!
[Vibrant General] MoWeb:
It's there I just checked ;)

If you originally posted this in the DEV section then he should have moved it to General because this isn't any development is just useful information hence "General"

I hit the "Thanks" just because of the time you spent doing this. It's good info. :D
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
I guess I checked to fast because right after her posted I checked the development sticky and it wasnt there, and I thought he moved it to general and was telling me to read before posting lmao...

Im such a D-head for that one

Sorry Mello for the mis understanding...lol

(Just incase you come back here)
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
Your right, you cleared it up for me, thanks bud
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
Op updated for latest axura
[Vibrant General] cezzarmicu:
Thanks for this thread :)

I'm on Trigger 2.x (and loving it!) so I will still have to wait for your input on that one :D
[Vibrant General] BruceElliott:
Very useful testing; thank you!

However, I do not see stock ROMs. Am I missing something? If not, could you please do the testing for stock ROMs?

Thanks!
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
Testing Trigger this week, Today im on the Jk6 and so far so good
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
Not that im tryin to be an a-hole but i see no point in testing stock since like 97% of this Vibrant communitys arr on custom roms.

If you want stock testing, test out urself :D

And thanks, this took quite sometime, Team Toxix's new rom will be tested next week.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
11-14 hours is great battery life, now?

Or have we taken the way back machine to 2008?
[Vibrant General] BruceElliott:
Ok; thank you. I can only imagine how long it must have taken and the work involved with flashing over and over...

I have a feeling that you may be surprised if you were to test stock KB1, though...
[Vibrant General] ndwgs:
As stated in your quote: i'm confused. In Axura, the KA6 has a "High" signal and down at the bottom, the KB1 has a "Great" signal....

Does that mean, what? You only stated that "High" "Medium" and "Low" for signals. Does it mean that "KB1" is better than the "Hight" signal of KA6?

Not trying to be a douche or anything, I'm always on KA6 after I flash a ROM, and it seems that most ROMs here has inputed that KB1 is better than it's predecessor?!?

Also note: as you look at the Battery part, there are "Good" and "Great" and "Medium" and etc....

Just trying to clarify the whole post. Other than that, THANKS! I pressed the button, btw. And VERY informative post.

Danka danka!
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
I forgot to change somethings...High and great are the same...I had it at great before High and i forgot to change it...

And Ive had better experience on KB1 here in my area than KA6....

Remember the OP states that it is of MY testing that shows that area and location matters but the rom does as well.

So your KA6 might be better than my KB1 in your area.

Overall my results might help people chose good modems but not everyone will have the same experience as me :D
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
Umm excuse me Mr.Sarcasim

But im pretty sure people charge their phone just about everyday so if your battery makes 14 hours out of a 24 day then that leaves 10 hrs left which most like 8 of those hours youll be sleeping and your phone will be charging.

And I quote red-foreman "DUMBASS"
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
Just for you ill test some stock ROMSZ on my other vibrant....Not gonna be much focus on it though because im testing trigger.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
I went to Houston two weeks ago and forgot my wall charger. We do have car charger, though. Our phones were dying. Need better than that, especially for people who travel and don't want to have to worry about looking for an outlet all the time.

I've spend over 10 hours in Airports before (Atlanta, New Orleans, and other places during bad weather or holidays, etc.), as well, so it's just not about me being negligent and forgetting my charger at home.

11-14 hours is only approaching moderate. I've seen blackberries go over 2 days on one charge with very heavy usage (indeed, I trialed one and experienced that, I was spoiled, but it had to go back due to a keyboard defect).
[Vibrant General] compuguy1088:
Short of having a iphone 4 (limited multitasking) or a blackberry, you are not going to get that kind of battery life.
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
Don't mind n8ter, he's just the forum troll. He's been complaining and selling his Vibrant for months now. He's still selling his Vibrant, I think. He just comes here for the spirited colloquy and the chance to raise some hackles.
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
iight thanks
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
umm this is an android forum not a blackberry forum.

And FYI 11-14 hrs is pretty much good battery life on an android phone considering the fact that the system is a battery hog.

So stop trolling...this is a battle youll never win
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
Op updated

Op updated with trigger
[Vibrant General] MoWeb:
Master&Slave, This is a very informative thread about battery life. If I may make one suggestion.

Your "legend" has the following categories for the battery:

Battery: After a full charge

Great Battery (11-14 Hours)

Moderate Battery (8-10 Hours)

Poor Battery (7 hours or less)

Some of you ROM sections state "Good Battery" like in the Nero section.

ROM - Nero

Modem - JK2 (Slow data/Low Signal/Great Battery)

Modem - Jk6 (Fast data/Meduim Signal/Moderate Battery)

Modem - JL1 (Medium Data/Medium Signal/Moderate Battery)

Modem - JL4 (Low Data/Medium Signal, Great Battery)

Modem - JL5 (Low Data/Medium Signal/Moderate Battery)

Modem - KA5 (Fast Data/High Signal/Poor Battery)

Modem - KA6 (Fast Data/Medium Signal/ Moderate Battery)

Modem - KA7 (Medium Data/Medium Signal/Good Battery)

Modem - KB1 (Fast Data/High Signal/Poor Battery)

For consistency sake you should either change the word "Good" to moderate or great, or add the word "Good" to your legend. Just a suggestion. ;)