yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S Android Development] ssenbonzakura:
^^^Thanks I got it to boot into recovery. I wasnt doing something right I guess.
[Nexus S Android Development] mr_magreb:
when i used GRH78C to return to stock ROM i am obliged to install radio for 2.3.3 or not?
[Nexus S Android Development] EonHawk:
Tons of new ROMs have been coming out. This thread needs a bit of updating.
[Nexus S Android Development] benrees21:
Yea I wanna know what ROMS are new. I just want all the green changed to blue and maybe a few extras.

Sent from my Nexus S running Stock 2.3.3 Netarchy 1.3.0.5 cfs and OC'd to 1.2ghz (I'm not that brave lol)
[Nexus S Android Development] Fmbl:
Hey all,

Im looking for a rom that haz a lot of stuff allready baked in, like a fast custom kernel, Gapps, voodoo sound/color etc etc.

Does anyone have an idea on such a rom?

Thnx!
[Nexus S Android Development] EonHawk:
I'd give NSCollab a try.

It's basically CyanogenMod 7 with Voodoo enhancements and some other neat stuff, but it doesn't come with ADW Launcher.

Very well maintained, and functions really smoothly.
[Nexus S Android Development] Fmbl:
Thnx im on NsCollab atm!
[Nexus S Android Development] benrees21:
You won't regret giving NSCollab a go, I flashed it earlier and its really nice and fast.

Sent from my Nexus S running NSCollab, Cyanbread Theme and OC'd to 1.2ghz (I'm not that brave lol)
[Nexus S Android Development] rubbamade:
I hope someone reads this...so i unlocked the bootloader...

installed the recovery image...the the superuser zip

and tried to adb so the recovery would stay...

didnt work

i can still get into recovery so i tried to flash CM7

assert failed: getprop ('ro.prpdict.devoce") =="crespo" || getprop("ro.build.product") == "crespo" || getprop("ro.product.board") == "crespo"

E:error in sdcard/update.....

status 7)

anyone...whats the mean? i now stay stuck at the google splash screen!!

am i bricked?

edit: it does the same thing no matter which ROM i try to install HELP!!!!
[Nexus S Android Development] Haizum74:
Looking at the 'E:error in sdcard' are you selecting 'apply update from sd card' or 'install zip from sd card'. If its the first one then thats why. Possibly
[Nexus S Android Development] kenvan19:
Sorry to everyone who has been reading this outdated guide and hoping for an update, I have bad news for you. After being banned for a completely ridiculous reason I decided not to update this anymore. I'm only here after being contacted over gtalk and told that there might be some misinformation going around due the guide and I apologize for that. This guide will NOT be updated nor will anything else I've ever posted. I have no intentions of being an active member of XDA at any time in the future.
[Nexus S Android Development] Vandam500:
Aw darn sorry to see you go :( If you don't mind I can make a new thread and will keep it updated :D
[Nexus S Android Development] benrees21:
Shame. This thread helped me a lot. Good luck dude.

Sent from my Nexus S running NSCollab, Cyanbread Theme and OC'd to 1.2ghz (Perfection) ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] ui10:
Thanks a lot for the Thread !

It helps me today to get back my Nexus S to original stock Version before change to a new smartphone.
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
OK, preface: I don't want your sarcasm or cheeky remarks. I'm sick of reading through irrelevant and closed threads to no avail.

If it were agreeable, would a MOD, or SamsungJohn please comment as to whether the "huge announcement" has been made?

I'm not trying to be negative or anything, but I have my own personal thoughts as to whether "opening the lines of communication" is considered "huge", or even an "announcement". If the powers that be allow, I would like to comment to SamsungJohn about that personally.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Send him a PM then.
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
The dude is full of crap.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
REALLY?....guys just wait you don't even know what he's going to announce.

He has proven he works for Samsung so he's not fake and is talking to the higher ups

.....Just wait we don't know what he's even capable of or what he's going to do for our community.
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
Isaint the announcement was that they have started a q&a with a poll that's it bro
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
O my bad dude 8(

...lol i still don't see it though where did you guys see this?
[Epic 4G General] dr_gibberish:
EB13 Imminent?

So is this the "huge announcement"?

http://www.androidcentral.com/froyo-eb01-release-imminent-sprint-epic-4g

Android central suggests that the EB13 update is "imminent" and that sprint has been making changes to its customer service page in advance of this.

EDIT: Actually I think they are suggesting that Samsung is updating its Epic 4g page. Hopwever, when I follow AC's link it just goes to a blank page with a little form at the bottom asking if I was satisfied with the content. I said "no". ;)
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
No. That's not even confirmed. The big announcement is yet to be announced, everyone just be patient.

Sent from my Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
This announcement of EB13 is good for us Epic owners, but that does not effect all Galaxy S owners. I think the better news is that John is here to make sure we don't have another debacle like this whole Froyo update. Samsung realizes the influence we have and to have a line of communication between a Manufacturer and a dev forum is unprecedented.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
IF the poll he is compiling is the 'big news', then if it actually bears fruit, that could be useful. Not sure that is the announcement. I think he shot himself in the foot promising an announcement, maybe official collaboration between him and svetius is a big deal to him, but until it bears fruit, it's not that impressive to the average XDA user. This leads me to believe that the poll may not be the announcement, just another part of the work he is trying to accomplish here. Give him a shot, and dont ***** about froyo, he said its on the list, wait and see what he does.

Silly flaming about froyo on here is only going to get threads closed, and give him an excuse to ignore the issue. If you must, do it on the social network sites, or PM him, then you can get your temp ban, and threads stay open...

As speculated in one of the general threads, (ran out of thanks if I didnt catch it), he MAY be sent here as a distraction, to keep us off twitter, FB, and the other retarded social networking forums. He is from that dept, maybe he is cleaning it up by distracting us...? Kind of an elaborate conspiricy, but who knows. Those that have been doing the twitter/FB campaigns, dont let up, it may be working... but keep the crazy comments there, as it will draw more attention to the unrooted masses...

HOPING SJohn is making such a big deal because he knows something he cant say yet... just hope he doesnt drag it out and announce froyo on the 20th!

This still reminds me of the Fallout3/Vegas on the PS3 BS...
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Working nights sucks! I go to bed and all the fun comes and all I find are locked threads after a cup of coffee when I wake up. :/

So how many armchair bandits have actually sent a pm to the xda owner on what we might do as requested? I did suggest a moderated forum where posts are only posted until after being reviewed by a mod. While I'm no dev I did offer to help out with such an endeavour.

:D
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
Why don't you guys just give him a chance. His hands are tired right now and be can't say anything untill xda allows him.

Android Creative Syndicate- From spontaneous ingenuity, comes creative brilliance
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
The first part of your post was spot-on....the above though is way too tinfoil hat and outside the realm of the feasible or credible. There's no way anyone in a position like his is going to come here or elsewhere to simply serve 'as a distraction'. Frustrations especially amongst we Epic owners are understandable to a point, but the above manner of thinking goes beyond frustration and crosses the line into bizzare paranoia.

It seems fairly obvious and certainly logical what's happened with John to this point, and in hindsight predictable too given the angst here; he came primarily with the hopeful purpose to collaborate with the people actually doing ROM/device development here, to try and establish a relationship with these folks perhaps to mutual benefit for both current and future product/customers. Unfortunately, the initial implementation came a bit too soon and without enough forethought and, it seems, without communicating his intentions and initiating a dialogue with the XDA owners first. That, combined with (a.) some obvious communication 'ambiguity' (at best) on John's part and (b.) making the mistake of thinking such a dialogue should be brought forth and attempted with the open masses of the entire membership of XDA down to the end user level and all the kneejerk 'angry white noise' therein, proved to be a disaster.

None of that means the desire and effort behind what John/Samsung is attempting is without value or merit though. And fortunately, it now sounds like they're going to try isolating his interaction purely with the dev/material contributers that actually matter, and hopefully they'll do so privately as well to keep everything filtered from the mob mentality so that an actual civil, mature interactive process can take place. Besides, a great deal of what he was barraged with in the central 'General' thread were issues that are mired on the carrier level anyway at least when it comes to the remaining GS phones still lacking Froyo.

And honestly, any information the end users want to hear, if he can even provide such, would be better received and trusted if its handed down through already established devs & moderators in each forum who have the history and respect of the membership at large to some degree. Otherwise you get what you've gotten the last 24 hours; a mindless, angry lynch mob mentality of kneejerk frustration being directed at one sole employee who (a.) had nothing personally to do with the cause of said frustration, and (b.) furthermore actually dares to come in good faith & intention wishing to bridge the divide. Sometimes, the hounds become so rabid and lose their minds so much that they try to gnaw off the good intentioned hand that attempts to try and help or feed them, and that's pretty much what happened in John's case.
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
Although it would be cool, I highly doubt that XDA is doing and hands-tying here. The ball has bee Sammy's court for a while now.

XDA has been walking the walk, not talking the talk.

If the 'huge announcement' was to announce the efforts of "collaboration", fine, we can move forward.

If a MOD came and commented YAY or NAY, then they could close this thread, and it's purpose would be served.

As it stands now, you have a bunch of people making assumptions one way or the other and making silly statements accordingly. We all what assuming does... =D
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
how do you know about my tinfoil hat?! No, really, its all Noobnl and Elvis' fault. Bastards.

I honestly hope John does something more than get special threads and draw attention to XDA. But you had a good idea there....

Any Mod/Admin have any input????

Was the announcement the first post of the 2 or 3 threads SJ started, or were they to lead up to the announcement, and were hijacked by angry SGS users with pitchforks acting like John is Frankenstein's monster??

BTW, did anyone notice the GSM SGS users were much more rabid in the General forums???? I guess its because of their rates/service ratio :) Seriously though, I thought we were bad...
[Epic 4G General] JudasD:
it is getting all hyped up and will probably turn out to be meh...
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
Haha, I wasn't referencing you personally, just the 'threads' you were referencing and the mentality portrayed therein. ;)
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
Hehe, you can't say "huge announcement" to a bunch of nerds and not have it be something that gives them their techie-jimmies for the day.

When I think of "huge announcement", I think something really relevant to the target crowd that either appeases are very much wanted need, or announcing something crazy that gets everyone excited.

If either of these things fails to happen, I consider this a major PR gaffe, that could be saved be some out of the ordinary effort by Sammy.

Silly mens!
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Agreed fully. That is what makes this so puzzling. Stop being so damn ambiguous SamsungJohn and just come out and tell us in no uncertain terms what the announcement is and what you would like from us.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
oh I know... I just referenced the 'distraction theory', as it is PLAUSIBLE, although not likely... plus its entertaining... this is like my geek soap opera.... please SPRINT, please take this as far as you can... I really wanna see minds lost here. :)

The best part is that some of these theories end up on so called media websites, Engadget, I got my HTC assassin theory from a very reliable source... please write an 'article' about it... why not... ?
[Epic 4G General] flopez76:
Did John even actually answer any questions or give out any info?
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
No, john did not. John = Fail
[Epic 4G General] flopez76:
One more thing, John said to ask him questions, right? But then he says not to ask him about Software releases and Hardware releases, well what else is there that we want to ask Samsung?

Not being a downer but was just thinking about that.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
It was horribly planned. Not a good sign.
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
I thought the "What did you eat for lunch?" question was pretty valid. It was only there for a few mins before it got deleted. Hilarious though.
[Epic 4G General] dito33:
There is no going back anymore the mods can close the treads but new one will pop out like mushrooms after rain and Come down everyone we still gonna get 10% off towards buying new accessories in exchange for devs fix what they can't.
[Epic 4G General] dcowboys2184:
the fiddle sounds good being played right now!
[Epic 4G General] Packolypse:
Complaining for froyo is a mute point now. The damage is done. Samsung and sgs owners should move on to gingerbread with samsung giving really long apology and explanation of what went wrong. What would be the point of running last years os with what could be still considered a high end smart phone? If they want to prevent this from happening again cut the carrier out of the update process and release it directly. There are to many obstacles(google->oem->carrier). Second give out a roadmap for future updates. While timlines would be nice I much rather know that my $500 phone isn't discontued shortly after release.
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
The only BIG announcement I want to see is the one that includes a download link! Other than that... SHUT IT!
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
Stop all of the irrelevant crap and belly-aching.

Thanks Silly mens.
[Epic 4G General] chino0131:
There are other ways for him to reach out to users other than XDA, or at least give an idea of his intentions...he has a twitter account. Theres nothing stopping him/Samsung from announcing what their intentions here are through other sources.

His hands arent tied and neither are Samsungs. As a user, im upset with the broken promises. However, Samsung is a large company and is all about business and profitability, which they should be. XDA users make up a small amount of their cosumers regardless of the influence some of us think we possess over other potential buyers. Thats the reality.
[Epic 4G General] lviv73:
I look at it this way:I tell my friend "Dont buy Samsung phones" he tells his friend same thing and so on.My two friend wanted Fascinate/Epic but they got DroidX/Evo instead thats about $500 loss for Samsung.Now if those two friend tell their friends..-you get the idea.

Today with facebook and tweeter,lets say only about a thousand of us from xda spread the word-that will equal to about 10,000 phones not being sold but the numbers will probobly be higher.

Review sites already gave Samsung bad rep after Behold2 situation,and Behold2 was a minor phone.Imagine what kinda bad review rep Samsung will get about its flagship Galaxy S lineup that is available for 6 network carriers in the usa alone and 4 networks overseas(about 12 different variants) being abandoned after only a few months?

Nowadays word spreads real quick.My girl posted on facebook about Samsung to her 500+ friends.To make it short we have crazy influence over Samsung-if we do our part.And all that put together(negative reviews,tweets,facebook,friend recomindations,etc...) will equall to at least two milion dolars drop in sales,which is not really a big number for Samsung but its a huge number to phone companies that might not wanna buy from samsung anymore,get the picture?

Samsung is nerveous for a good reason.
[Epic 4G General] jpeepers:
I agree. As much as everyone here thinks they can bring a big corporation like Samsung to there knees they have another thing coming. Even if everyone on here told 10 friends, and those friends told 10 friends, it would still only be a pin prick in the total sales of Samsung.

Truth is, probably 98% of the people out there owning a Samsung phone have no idea what XDA or froyo is and could care less?

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[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Absolutely true. But a large segment of those people seek our recommendation on which is the "best phone". Can't say I could recommend Samsung devices at this point, especially because as I type this EVO users are installing CM7 RC1 on their phones.
[Epic 4G General] lviv73:
I agree 2-3 million loss in sales is pennys to Sammy but the company's rep is being hurt with that-and thats hard to fix.

Samsung will always sell the first phone to a noob that dont know nothing about android but as that noob plays with his phone for few months and learns more about it he wont want to buy a second samsung phone or other samsung products.

Why do you think that Apple is doing so good?Its because they make people feel like they are part of something and that goes a long way.
[Epic 4G General] riceknight:
2-3 million isn't quite pennies to Samsung, but heres another way to think of it. Whats more cost efficient for Samsung? Losing 2-3 million or recruiting some good developers and supporting their hardware? Seems like an extremely easy choice, but the problem with Samsung and any other big company is all the loopholes and bureaucratic crap their employees have to go through to get anything done.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
While it is true we are the minority..and don't have too much direct power, we have a lot of indirect power...

There are a lot of news sites and blog owners that source XDA for information...how many times have you seen sites like even Engadget post info from XDA and that info wasn't even true..but they took at as so due to what XDA has managed to achieve...

So while directly we may influence only thousands, indirectly we influence millions...
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
if we didn't have power they wouldnt be deleting our posts off their message boards. it looks bad on them and they don'[t like that. but it looks like they thought they could appease this place with a "representitive" that can answer nothing.. basically showing them as clueless
[Epic 4G General] GlassGorilla:
So because large sites take info from here which turns out to be false, XDA's credibility and influence is increased :confused::confused::confused:

I say that semi-jokingly because I'm just the next guy that wants froyo, but I think people here heavily over-estimate the influence here. I'd love to be proven wrong, but you think we indirectly influence MILLIONS? C'mon.

I don't know a tenth of what most of you people know about phones and whatnot, but I know both the words "Froyo" and "XDA" which unfortunately means I'm still probably in the top 95% most knowledgeable phone owners.

I can tell you I'm personally never buying Samsung anything ever again, but for every one one of me I can bet you that there's at least a dozen people who don't know or don't care about this.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
If your talking about XDA, they were deleting posts because people kept flaming and asking about things that was asked not to ask about...The barrier right now in communication is not SamsungJohn, but US...they can't answer all the questions at the same time and I'm guessing some questions take time to get clearance for or to follow up with their internal department and etc..large corporations unfortunately work that way...

The delay right now is XDA is looking for a proper way to communicate with us and SamsungJohn..as an open thread just went out of hand fast..

Edit:

They do not need to know XDA or even Froyo...it kidna works like this..people from XDA say "samsung does not support their phones and doesn't fix updates"..before you know it the media people that follow XDA catch on that trend and it appears on blogs and news sites in reviews..then from then on its picked up by TV and before you know it, its associated with the company wherever it goes..

We don't have any "organizational" power..we have subtle power...just like gravity is the weakest force, yet it makes the world go round..
[Epic 4G General] Doppler808:
Doesn't work that way man. Look at the Facebook page that had 480 people , Twitter page with slightly more users saying they would never buy Motorola again, and tell others not to buy Motorola. Look at Motorola's sales numbers worldwide. Sure they lost X number of people buying their device, but if someone else promotes them well they will recoup it somewhere else.

People will have different views and experiences, and some people don't care about updates(Vast majority) only if the phone does what they need it to do. I know of people still running 2.1 on their i9000 and didn't even know the update was available. It works and that didn't bother enough to go looking around for an update.
[Epic 4G General] uranidiot:
Hahahahohohohehehehahaha! WE HAVE BEEN BEYOND PATIENT! almost God like parient! Hahahahohohohehehehahaha!
[Epic 4G General] chino0131:
I get the picture, but again the impact you think this is going to have on sales is minimal. For every 10 people bad mouthing samsung, there will be that same amount or more praising them or showing them Samsungs next big thing and promising that samsung has changed. This isnt the first time Samsung has had complaints from consumers about their phones. And those same people that complained and said theyd never buy another Samsung phone bought the Galaxy S with the hope that Samsung wouldnt repeat the same mistakes. Ill use myself as an example. Samsungs lack of support sucks and im pissed and swore id never buy a Samsung phone again. But im really tempted to buy the Galaxy S2 as soon as it comes out and I probably will. I know Samsungs support sucks, but its a damn nice phone.

Your girl, or whoever can post all they want. If people like the phone, theyll buy the phone regardless of the issues with the phone. How many people knew about Samsungs history with support for their phones before buying the epic? Many. How many here researched theGalaxy S line and knew the GPS issues before making their purchase? How many iphone users knew about the reception issues but bought anyways? I mean really, if your phone has issues related to its usage and functionality, I personally wouldnt buy one. However, look at the sales of iphone, especially during that period where they were getting bad press. I know thats not the greatest comparisson, but it proves my point. Most consumers buy based on what they desire, not necessarily on what they heard through a friend