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[Epic 4G General] popper668:
That's because this is the night before christmas!

Sent from DEEZ
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
It'll be something lame like 10% off of the new Car Dock for all XDA members.
[Epic 4G General] WhiteWidows:
I posted the "big announcement" already.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=955337
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
You're kidding, right? Surely that can't be it.
[Epic 4G General] WhiteWidows:
You sound shocked lol
[Epic 4G General] flopez76:
Well he didn't bring the goods •_•
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
how nice... samsung sent us a sacrificial lamb
[Epic 4G General] Pvt WhoOkid:
Omg you guys "This changes everything!"
[Epic 4G General] DiGi760:
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

The "Big Announcement" is really just another "Hi, I'm Samsung John" thread with absolutely no info. Either this guy is trolling us, Samsung is trolling us, or Samsung really doesn't get it.
[Epic 4G General] dcowboys2184:
What you guys expect... It's samsung nothing new.. But o well I'm use to it
[Epic 4G General] algorhythm:
Honestly, what more did you expect from a "Social Media Analyst" or whatever he was? The source code? Some golden key?

He's doing his job...
[Epic 4G General] decalex:
are you sure that's the announcement? didn't he say that he was going to be the link between samsung and xda in his first post a few days ago? Sure, it's progress, but didn't we already know this?
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
Samsung john, you are a fraud. Maybe you work for samsung but what you are promising is fradulant. This big announcement will not be anything close to what it will take to appese us. Take this message back to your bosses. LESS CARROT MORE STICK! Don't you have a clue samsung you come here with a big announcement we are already pissed about no froyo. If you ant to deliver us something big send the gingerbread binaries to the us carriers leave it at that.
[Epic 4G General] nikon120:
I imagine that thread will be closed soon. The amount of disgruntled customers from all carriers posting in that thread is making it a train wreck.

SamsungJohn really should have taken the time to compile a list of questions/issues from the community, get the answers to all (regardless if it's not what the community wants to hear) and then provide that as the starting post for the thread. He's effectively shooting himself in the foot with his methodology. :confused::rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] SamsungJohn:
Everyone please come over to this thread.

Thanks,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=11375386#post11375386

Twitter:@SamsungJohn
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Don't you guys think you should wait for him to post something to our forum before you start acting like entitled assholes??
[Epic 4G General] flopez76:
Very true! John please excuse this you have to understand why we're like this.

Well John just if you can give us any info. on anything really, please do?
[Epic 4G General] boominz28:
before they start acting? lol i think its too late for that. for some reason everyone feels like they are owed something.
[Epic 4G General] jnadke:
hahahaha :D:p
[Epic 4G General] styckx:
This is by far, the stupidest PR stunt I've ever seen.
[Epic 4G General] blazinazn:
I like how all the threads are getting closed. Just goes to show you there are too many keyboard commandos who can't play nice. :rolleyes:

Whatever progress this SamsungJohn guy (whether fake or real) is trying to make, it's being stifled by all this garbage.
[Epic 4G General] TWO515TY:
He's going to announce a new dual screen phone from Samsung!
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
another thread closed. whose bright idea was this? i'm starting to think that the samsungs korean translator only speaks Swahili..
[Epic 4G General] Ex0d0s:
Fail...

I think that SamsungJohn wanted to get together the worst problems that we have seen in Galaxy S phones and also get the most interesting questions, but he never said he was going to answer them right now. Maybe he is getting together a list of Q/A observations for new development future phones! But it seems that trolls and stupid 'where is froyo' questions have failed all the attempts. I know, we are all freaking frustrated because we still don't have froyo but flaming the guy with the same questions will not get us this froyo sooner.

Can we get civilized questions although we are really frustrated with Samsung/US carriers? [guess not]
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
It's because he wasn't clear on what he needed or was doing which left a lot of room for interpretation from the users which did not translate well to the mods.

Next time, he should be very specific about which questions people shouldn't ask and preface his post with the questions he already has so we didn't get redundant.
[Epic 4G General] deisel:
I've been reading this post and I don't see any news ?

Whut am I missing?

Anyway hey john

I would like froyo on my epic would definately want future updates as well gingerbread honeycomb whutever else they make

If no updates I would be satisfied with return of phone and money back or money returned towards another phone.

Samsung should do a future proof clause on their phones if they wont update the software at least give us a way out like best buy is doing

Please surprise me and make me a return customer.
[Epic 4G General] Ex0d0s:
Point in case above.... SamsungJohn will not tell us that yet.... He already said that on his post in the General Section.
[Epic 4G General] Ex0d0s:
You are correct, he wasn't clear on what he needed or what he was going to do with the questions. He just said he was going to have a poll with all the questions. What for? who knows.
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
You're wrong. He DID say no software release questions. But people feel so entitled that they'll ask it anyway, thinking they're some sort of quasi-rebel. "Well I'm gonna ask it anyway but this time I'M gonna be the one to ge through!" You think samsung doesn't know we're pissed? If you do you're an idiot. People at least need to try and contribute. Either that or xda needs to give a skills exam to people before they can become post-worthy members to cut out all the ignorant BS that people post, ruining it for everyone. The voice of a thousand idiots means nothing to me, so do you actually think it means anything to samsung?

NO!

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
Guess reading's not your strong point. That's okay, everyone has different skill sets and it takes all of them to make this world what it is today.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
I agree partially, but SamsungJohn said that he had a "huge announcement". So far he has announced that he was going to take a poll on the problems we have been having. WTF. He needs to clearly state everything he can tell us, and then CLEARLY state what his intentions are for the Samsung/XDA relationship and then CLEARLY state what he would like from us.
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
I do agree with that to a degree, but as of right now this early in his xda life I'm chalking it up to liability on his part

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
I wanna know what his intentions are here with all of this. The more this plays out, the more I feel I have been fooled again by someone from Samsung. I wanted to believe this was something that was going to move us forward in a huge leap, not a FAQ and question system from a Samsung rep. He needs to lay out a plan or give us an idea what his full intentions are with us here at XDA, or move the hell on and stop playing this "Mr Nice guy roll" with all of us, just to get us to not be mad about our delayed updates.
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
Really? Because I could have SWORN I had a quote lying around here somewhere...where is it?..hmmm...oh yeah

"Please don't ask questions about any future release dates of hardware and software questions. Those questions are already at the top of the list for the starting of the poll."

So what was that about reading? I'm sorry you have to say it again I couldn't read your reply

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
*sigh*

Define for me, please, then, specifically "Those questions" he is mentioning so everyone does not ask them again. In addition, please explain to me where in the post of mine you quoted I mentioned "software release" questions or questions specifically requested? Finally, please explain to me what you see that people feel "entitled" to. He stated he would give answers, no answers were given, people ask questions and thread gets shut down.

I have no "beef" with you so please don't take what I say as an insult, it's not meant to be.

Generalizations and assumptions are not facts or details.
[Epic 4G General] deisel:
I'm sorry I didn't see the no software question post on here so I apologize.

If I read thru the post I need to set aside a day w all the reqote and commenting.
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
PROJECTS ARE FUN!

1. I don't think I need to post the quote again. Was he very specifc? No. But it was a blanket condition that certainly covers the basis of "do not ask me when froyo will be released." Would you not agree that for most sensible, intelligent this would be enough? Asking for such an acute degree specificity isn't exactly fair, as the entire purpose of his thread was meant to be not specific. "Ask me your best tech questions, but please don't dog me about software releases." To me, that seems pretty self-explanatory.

2. "Next, time he should be very specific about questions people shouldn't ask"

True, while his criteria regarding questions he didn't want weren't as specific as, say, "don't ask what I had for dinner last night", I'm pretty sure, once again, the blanket criteria he laid down should have been good enough for most self-moderating users. Now, did you mention his "no software release criteria" in your post? I will conceide, no. Touche. I quoted you simply because you made a point that he should tell us what not to ask...when he did.

3. Annnnnd we come to the entitlement. What I mean is that the only reason the questions regarding froyo kept getting asked is because people feel entitled. (Which is true, don't kid yourself. If froyo were to be released tomorrow, it wouldn't take long for people to start clammering for gbread. Its human nature...we always want more. Hence, entitlement)

Did I say that I feel you are entitled? No, I did not.

Which brings me to the fact that you started this personal attack, not me. My original quotation of your post was merely to point out the fact that he DID say what he DIDN'T want, yet people refused to obey anyway. Nowhere did I attack you (though I admit I did flame the people who continued to ask the froyo questions). You were the one questioning my literacy.

/rebuttal *sigh*

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
Woops repost
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
Cool. So we agree with each other.
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
Nice. You would do well to work for a newspaper ;)

Cept only the first one really worked. The other two were forced. You need some practice. Plus you need to include liberal use of "........."

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] Xerexis:
OK so to sum it up. A Samsung rep attempts to make contact and answer some questions but because of the nuckle dragging monkeys who continuously attack and want to blame someone (reminiscence of the Salem witch hunts) the Threads can not stay open long enough to get any answers.

Yeah I'm a little pissed off to at the fact there has been no answers and no communication, but this is the time to ask the questions and attempt to get answers. Save your anger for the other threads and rant somewhere else so we might be able to get some answers and not closed threads.
[Epic 4G General] twolostminds:
So has all the heat and flamers run SamsungJohn off or will we actually see some results once the embers cool?
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
Well aren't you just an interesting person. Thank you for the compliment.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
No. More like, a Samsung rep announces there is going to be a "huge announcement" and then opens a thread saying that he is going to start a poll and wants people to give him the options he should include on it. Then everyone is like, wtf, this is your announcement?

As soon as he actually clearly states his intentions and clearly states what he wants from XDA, maybe we will get somewhere.
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
Yes, yes I am ;) it's always nice to have a good debate. Thought id give you a little challenge

You're welcome

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] jeffyv2:
*gets riot gear out* here we go!

sent from my Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] popper668:
Yes I agree "violence" is the only solution ;-)

Sent from DEEZ
[Epic 4G General] boominz28:
well its for sure legit

check this out

Seeking To Defuse Tensions, Samsung Opens Dialogue With XDA-Dev Forum - http://ow.ly/3X2cL @SamsungJohn

http://twitter.com/#!/SamsungMobileUS
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Hopefully cyonogen, dameon and noobnl come.
[Epic 4G General] themirthfulswami:
post deleted...
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
Except the devs keep closing those lines of communication. Let the flamers flame, the devs are smart guys, they can sift through the comments and pick out the useful/constructive ones.
[Epic 4G General] XtaC318:
No lines of communication have been closed. The higher ups of this community are talking with SamsungJohn to make sure things go smoothly; just be patient it has to be this way.

There are way too many ignorant trolls around on these forums to have anything productive talked about anymore. Atleast in our forums. It's getting better..yes but we still have some cleanup to do =P
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
I know it would be cumbersome, but I wonder if just sending him PMs would be better...which I'm sure is already happening.

Maybe they need to setup a new forum that requires comments to be moderator approved...they could easily get a couple liaisons from the common-folk and give them access to approve comments in that forum.

Just an idea.

New Forum

- Assign some new comment-MODs (so board MODs don't spend all day monitoring) to approve comments in said forum

- Will keep the forum relevant & garbage free
[Epic 4G General] ZenInsight:
PM'd SJ-

When/if you open up chats there are some of us in here that are quite technical and know exactly what we want to ask/request from Samsung that could heal this ongoing wound that so many people have claimed will permanently deter them from ever buying another Samsung device again, and therefore deterring their friends from purchasing as well. Remember, when you are the tech guy everyone asks you which product to buy. I'm sure Samsung doesn't want any more people slamming their products.

Discussion about the true differences between RFS and Ext4 file system structures....and....re-enabling things like the USB to MicroHDMI out and TV out via the 3.5mm headphone jack, and using a kernel that gives us the option to do USB Host (OTG) and read NTFS hard drives would go a long way for Samsung to get word of mouth accolades, ensuring future purchases and spreading the good quality, user/dev friendly vibe.

_________________________________

Anyone else have anything constructive to add....feel free.
[Epic 4G General] MeetFace:
Amen to that Zen.

As the unofficial techie, I have friends from school, work, both sides of my large exended family, past work associates, people from church, and that doesn't include my litttle sphere of influence on facebook & twitter & online chat services, that all ask me about technology and what I recommend.
[Epic 4G General] ZenInsight:
EXACTLY. If Samsung doesn't realize just how much influence we really have amongst our friends then they deserve to get beat down by LG and HTC...and even Motorola (on some upcoming tablets Xoom and Atrix).

Wake up Samsung, we are the ones who control your "over the top" sales figures. the normal masses ask us what they should buy first. Just recently I suggested a friend get the HTC Evo Shift because he wanted a keyboard and voice command stuff I had on my 2.2 ROM. But since I didn't want to be responsible for the glitches that occur with rooting and re-romming his phone I told him to get the Shift because it already has 2.2 on it, even though it doesn't have a front facing camera and the GPU is weaker.

Your loss Samsung. WAKE UP!!!
[Captivate General] SamsungJohn:
I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.

Thanks

Twitter:@SamsungJohn
[Captivate General] vvaffles:
sounds awesome
[Captivate General] SamsungJohn:
Thanks, We are really excited on our end as well!
[Captivate General] XpediencY:
ho lee ****... I can't wait. lol
[Captivate General] xtremekilla09:
Alright, now this is getting me hyper..lol

Don't know how much of this is true (always skeptical), but I am an insominiac and this just added fuel to the fire.
[Captivate General] nickm50:
Checking in........
[Captivate General] timmytim:
nice! Hopefully this announcement well come tomorrow.
[Captivate General] Xstop:
I will be the skeptical (hater) one here.

I still will let action speak for itself.

Just remember that if this has nothing to do with development, you will have failed 100 folds with this community and further tarnish the Samsung name.

I'd rather hear Samsung is on the phone with AT$T pushing for faster updates instead.

IMO, I smell sales...
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
Not getting my hopes up.
[Captivate General] Aquarianperry:
If it's that official Captivate Ginberbread was coming I'd skeet skeet skeet, but if it's Official Captivate Froyo I'd just raise my eyebrow - soon enough having 2.2 is going to be like having 1.6 was last June where everyone was slowly getting 2.1 and eagerly waiting for for 2.2 while 2.3 was already on everyones tongues for the must have's for their next phone.

Seriously, after all the recent smartphone announcements I've heard in the past seven months of owning this phone it has got to be real good for me to take a second look at any Samsung device. Samsung and AT&T fooled me once with the BlackJack in 2006 and they've fooled me again with the Galaxy S in 2010, Samsung makes great latest and greatest hardware but once it's out the door it's usually DIY if you want a speedy (as in before half a year or more has passed before Samsung and AT&T decide to put it out) firmware upgrade. At this point I perceive that Samsung will probably put out 2.2 on their own for the Captivate and the other American Galaxy S models just like they did with the BlackJack. Official firmware upgradeable smartphones were a rarity then and with only select Windows Mobile phones doing it but now it's the norm, get with the times or lose your current or potential customers to HTC and Motorola!

Manufacturers/carriers really need to start giving out at least a one year up to date guarantee for updates especially if the hardware is fully capable, and the Galaxy S series has enough umph to go at least two years on the hardware side so ATT/Samsung better not pull an EOL and discontinue support right at July for this almost wonderful phone!!!
[Captivate General] oldskooldawgz:
"Hey I know that your phone hasn't been updated so why don't you just buy our nexus s it will be on att in the next couple of months is running 2.3 and you should (crosses fingers) get an update for it soon after the next google firmware update. Oh and it'll only cost you about $700 or more dollars." Or is it "we will be pushing 2.2 to your phones; however you will have to pay $X for it" im sorry but I am so fed up with att and samsung. I love my captivate but that's thanks to all the devs here. But ill wait and to see what the next disappointment a big coroeration can try and serve to me on a silver platter
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
The only thing, and I mean the ONLY thing that will get Samsung off of my ****-list is a lag-free, gps-working, Gingerbread ROM.

Had they delivered in November like they promised, a lag-free, gps-working, Froyo ROM would have been enough.

But the penalty for waiting until god damn March is that Froyo is no longer acceptable.
[Captivate General] bradleyG:
I am really hoping that this is gonna be gingerbread, I will not get my hopes up however. I hope this is for real because otherwise this is my very last Samsung phone. The only thing that I really love is the screen.
[Captivate General] oldskooldawgz:
O wait I know how this will end up samsung will just give open source and pass all the work onto the devs here that way it isn't their fault there is no update. And they don't have to work on the updates and can just keep pushing out new products
[Captivate General] tkienzle:
lol WOOT !!! cant wait...
[Captivate General] vvaffles:
i highly doubt its official gingerbread, i would scream like a girl if it was tho. kernel source maybe? or, a sort of xda - samsung exchange, in where samsung might port over the codes and allow official OTA to go over as a beta program.

very excited
[Captivate General] lowlymarine:
I think at this point it would have to be official Gingerbread + an HSPA+ modem + greatly improved GPS to cause me to seriously reconsider complaining to AT&T until they let me upgrade to an Inspire.

Not that I have any grudge against Samsung; I love the Captivate from a raw hardware standpoint, and the screen is still incomparable (until SAMOLED+, that is), but after getting lost because of the GPS tracking issues more than once, and several close calls with random shutdowns at night culminating in having to actually drag out an old clock radio, I simply can't rely on the thing to do its job.
[Captivate General] xdahgary:
I can has gingerbread?
[Captivate General] sola fide:
Why would Samsung need to talk to XDA before releasing an announcement? Doesn't sound like a Gingerbread announcement. Which means I'll continue to be disappointed.
[Captivate General] stevesteveLA:
That sounds right to me. Just announcing something like GB for Captivate would be a huge win for Samsung's damaged brand. Why would they share that PR spotlight with XDA?

Seems like more hype to me. I do honestly hope they prove me wrong though...
[Samsung Mesmerize] SamsungJohn:
I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.

Thanks

Twitter:@SamsungJohn
[Samsung Mesmerize] phidelt82:
I'm not sure there are a lot of expectations here to be let down. We know that in most cases you probably wouldn't be able to offer us beta, or even alpha firmware and software to develop with or on. RC firmware and software would be just as much out of the question so we're down to what is already out, or something that is leaked by people friendly to the development communities that take the chance of getting in to a lot of trouble. So I don't really know what you have to offer yet. I am curious to find out, though.
[Samsung Mesmerize] mesmerbelly:
Dear john, you have sparked a lot of interest, we are drooling at the mouth do you have any gingerbread for us, or dare I speak of honeycomb? ;-)
[Samsung Mesmerize] BakedTator:
"IF" this where to happen it would be a good thing for both samsung and xda for the simple fact that it would help us make better mods for the samsung community and would allow samsung to release things that are more open to modding and customizations that all of us around here love and enjoy making (or in my case learning to make)...hope all goes well with this.