yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate Android Development] tkjeeper:
I knew it was tw, didn't k now it was #4 I guess. Ty

Sent from the frozen tundra known as Canada.
[Captivate Android Development] dizx:
Is it possible to get more than the icons at the bottom?
[Captivate Android Development] eep2378:
You guys can pm me your emails too, I can invite as well :)
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
I still don't like it :o

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Apex 8.2
[Captivate Android Development] RockRatt:
I HOPE IT IS TRUE...BUT WITH ATT YOU NEVER KNOW... I happened to be at a corporate ATT store yesterday and asked one of the people that was helping me how long before a release do they get notification of a new phone? (I did not ask for any particular phone at all). She said they usually get an email a month or two in advance. After hearing her details I then asked if she had heard ANYTHING about the sgs2 attain coming out. She said she hadn't heard anything and was excited for it to come out. I then said the rumors are it was supposed to be August and she hadn't heard that. (I KNOW THEY ARE NOT RELIABLE AND WOULDNT TRUST ANYTHING EITHER WAY.)

ON ANOTHER NOTE: while I was there I installed speedtest on the Motorola atrix 4g and then set both my cappy and the atrix up to run a test. The atrix actually showed a H+ symbol at the top. Well my cappy neat it 3 out of 3 test for upload and download speeds. Just barely but it still beat it. I showed the att persononell and they were amazed. Then she had to use my phone and really liked how I had a red theme going on it, and said " mine is only green". ANOTHER big smile for me.. Then the other Rep standing there said is that CyanogenMOD? Yep... Sorry I had my CM7 phone with me and not my Apex 8.2 phone. Just moral of my story is I WOULDNT TRADE ANYTHING for either of my Captivates EXCEPT THE SGS2 when it comes out. Then my beloved cappy will be my tried and true backup phone.

Sent from My KickAss Captivated CM7 OC'd 1.5Ghz/Undervolted
[Captivate Android Development] T0N3Z:
http://apexrom.weebly.com/honeycomb-lockscreen1.html

i installed the first package through recovery went to display in settings and couldnt see the lockscreen there
[Captivate Android Development] T0N3Z:
can i have this lockscreen

http://apexrom.weebly.com/honeycomb-lockscreen1.html

with jazzk?

http://apexrom.weebly.com/apex-battery-mods.html
[Captivate Android Development] TheShamsMan:
Will the Honeycomb lockscreen work on 7.3?
[Captivate Android Development] asrrin29:
So I just installed 8.2 over 7.2 yesterday, and my battery life has gone DOWN. looking at battery stats, the offender is my email app! I've not changed any settings or installed any new apps, but email accounts for 54% of a little under 5 hour battery from 90% to 20%!

What's going on?
[Captivate Android Development] mod777:
How do I change my vote from TalonDev to DarkCore? lol
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
I agree, somethings not right. Might want to start thinking about reflashing.
[Captivate Android Development] TheShamsMan:
No it doesn't. Boot loop.
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
Maybe disable background data?

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Apex 8.2
[Captivate Android Development] Yaantra:
Its a viable suggestion, but, not an option for many of us who need push access our work e-mail on the go...
[Captivate Android Development] eep2378:
When flashing a new rom it takes some time for the battery to settle in. Sometimes 3-4 charge cycles. 7.2-8.2 is a completely new base, too. Have you tried recalibrating your battery stats? That does seem like huge drain but give it a few days, if it doesn't improve you may need to reflash.

Background data is one thing, but do you leave auto-sync on? that will murder your battery.
[Captivate Android Development] killer_raj:
+1...auto sync is a killer...
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
It always need a couple of days for battery life to come back to normal after a flash.
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
It's not what I call details. I know what honeycomb lockscreen is and I know where to find it... I need more details like: how did you installed it? Did you flash a theme before? What version of Apex are you running? ....

Else I can't help you, because if you don't give details, I assume that you are running stock Apex 8.2 and there's no reasons why it wouldn't work with it.
[Captivate Android Development] asrrin29:
I've flashed tons of ROMS in the past month or so. Different versions of Percpetion, Apex, Continuum, etc. Out the door every ROM has lasted at least 12+ hours on the first charge. Even Apex 7.2 like I said. It can't be auto-sync because I've had 4 or more email accounts in the app before on other ROMS, and I'm previously only running 3 email accounts now (I'm too lazy to look up server info for yahoo)

I'll try reflashing it tomorrow, but seriously, I've not seen this poor battery life since Eclair!
[Captivate Android Development] killer_raj:
it seems,,,,u r a frequent flasher..so no point givin u much lesson..as u already know alot..

but just a question..did u use tibu after flashin the rom???

and did u do a fresh install..i mean goin back to stock then master clear and then flashin 8.2??

coz ur problem is really weird...

though i m not using any other email on my phone than gmail....but will config today only to test...

i m gettin more than 20 hours with good use..like 1 hour screen time ..2 hour talk and all time wifi on...with background data enabled...

and when my wifi and internet is off..i get more than 28 hours with same usage...

the way i use my phone

1 -i keep my display resolution minimum ..coz darkcore kernal is as it is bright....

2 - i keep auto rotation off...

3- auto sync is off...

4 automatic brightness and power saving mode is unchecked..
[Captivate Android Development] tkjeeper:
most on this rom are getting min 20 hrs, either your phone doesn't' like 8.2 or you have a bad flash, simple as that. It's not the rom.
[Captivate Android Development] TheShamsMan:
Word.

10char
[Captivate Android Development] startngate:
I have had the exact same problem on every GB ROM I have flashed.

My battery life actually started out OK on Apex 8.2 for the first couple of days and has gotten progressively worse, even after week of having it and re-calibrating the battery.
[Captivate Android Development] sremick:
I'm not so sure of that estimate. From following this thread, I'd hazard a guess that typical is even less than half that.

I know personally, I've never gotten more than 5-6 hours and that's assuming lots of idle time. If I am using it heavily it'll die a lot faster than even that. And that's across many versions of Apex including 5.x, as well as several other Android 2.2 and 2.1 custom ROMs and 3 different Captivates.
[Captivate Android Development] tkjeeper:
5-6 hrs!?!? And you stay with apex??? I don't buy it.

The point is, is that battery life is phone specific.

As I sit, 11hrs, battery at 80%. If I get less than 24 hrs on a charge it's because of HEAVY use. I have officially set a new record for myself for length of time on the same rom. It's been over 3 weeks. So my personal stats are accurate. If you get less than 12hrs under normal use either you are doing or did something wrong, you have a bad flash, our your phone doesn't like apex. Try another rom. Brutal.

Btw, darkcore kernel for me, talon sucks battery for me like a cheap whore.

Sent from the frozen tundra known as Canada.
[Captivate Android Development] Uncle Irish:
OS Monitor?

If you have never gotten more than 5-6 hours on any ROM, I would highly recommend getting a new battery because yours is in dire need of replacement.
[Captivate Android Development] sremick:
Right, because I'm just here to make up numbers. :rolleyes:

I know you love your ROM... hell, I use it too and so obviously I like it as well. But it is what it is. And I'm surprised you find that so uncommon... from reading the threads on here, under 10 hours is very common, on any ROM.

As are mine. And I use JuicePlotter to track it.

So first you say that "battery life is phone specific" but now you claim it must be my fault? What about allowing for other possibilities here, since... despite this being news to you... it's actually not uncommon at all.

Re-read my post. I've tried several ROMs. Including many versions of Apex over its life. This isn't just an Apex issue, or a bad flash. And I'm on my third Captivate.

Well, that sort of runs contrary to a lot of your previous claims then (that it's my phone's or my fault, or a bad flash).
[Captivate Android Development] sremick:
I use it but it's never given any definitive info that would point a finger at what is the culprit in my case.

That's actually sort of what I've been thinking too and will be the next thing I try. I'm accustomed to batteries deteriorating over time but I hadn't bothered replacing it because A) It's been like this from day 1, and B) so many other people have experienced about the same life from day 1 as well so I chalked it up as being very common.

From all my time here and on other Android/Captivate forums I learned that sub-10h battery life is very common on the Captivate. Not to say those getting more are imagining things... but those in my situation are far from few.
[Captivate Android Development] tkjeeper:
Take a breath...battery life IS phone specific. However, if you have juice plotter running, auto brightness, or the innumerable things that can drain battery, it's the user that's at fault. If you've had that pathetic battery life on all your roms it's your fault for not tracking down the problem and living with it.

What's your battery life like pbcist?

Sent from the frozen tundra known as Canada.
[Captivate Android Development] d_gritza:
I don't know about pbcist but with ApeX 8.2 im easily getting over 20+ hours on normal use. So maybe it's a Canadian thing :D

on Serendipity 7 i was lucky to get 20 and would frequently get below 15(which is still good compared to stock).
[Captivate Android Development] tkjeeper:
Right on...eh?

Sent from the frozen tundra known as Canada.
[Captivate Android Development] watsa:
5-6 hours of battery life that too with a lot of idle time?? hmm..

I wonder how people get 4-5 hours of screen on time on ANY ROM? They must be imagining that their battery status shows 4-5 hours of screen on time :rolleyes:
[Captivate Android Development] watsa:
This is the first time minority will win
[Captivate Android Development] d_gritza:
Only hosers get below 15 hours of battery life, eh?

PS: I'm craving Nanaimo bars for some strange reason.
[Captivate Android Development] Uncle Irish:
Some stats before I give a number

200+ touchdown emails

1-2hrs talk time

50-100 SMS

1-2hrs Homerun Battle 3D

several pics (over 20 a day)

30 mins browsing

XDA a LOT

Color Flashlight (5 mins every morning to get in my closet while the wife catches the extra 30 mins sleep)

FriendCaster on and off all day

Google+ (15 mins tops---too new still)

Google Docs (15 mins or so)

Music for 8 hours normally (not streaming)

Auto brightness on

11 widgets / 5 screens using Go Launcher

No task killers, juice plotters, what have you. I let Android do its thing. Sometimes I will end apps from Go Launcher settings in App Drawer when I am not using them.

This will normally get me 15-20 hrs

When I installed the ROM, I removed everything I don't need. Apps, widgets, launchers, etc. I have 119 apps installed.

I don't know what other info I can give other than poor battery life isn't an issue. I use the hell out of my phone. When I flash, I discount ALL battery life for the first 3 days. I let the phone do it's thing. I let it die each time the battery drains during that time as well. I will charge to full powered off, then power on and either use or charge overnight. Wake up, rince and repeat. After day 3 total drain, I calibrate, wipe battery stats and enjoy the use I listed above without worrying much about my battery.
[Captivate Android Development] doctorbva:
8.3 Coming???

Hey Watsa.... Love your Apex ROM. I see you have 8.3 in your signature. When are you releasing to public???
[Captivate Android Development] viny2cool:
I dont know why people argue over battery use...I have never got better battery on any GB rom...i am happy so I am still using it....as others said its not just rom its your phone and battery as well...try changing the rom or battery and then talk about battery....
[Captivate Android Development] Uncle Irish:
For those who have been following my Captivate saga

My job squared me away - Glass replaced

Back kickin' the nappy cap
[Captivate Android Development] bobbylx:
It may be just my paranoia, but every so often when flashing I do a battery wipe. So, I charge to full, boot into recovery, wipe battery, wipe data, flash new ROM. It may not make any difference, but I average 24-27 hours of battery life per charge. CM7 based stuff all bets are off.
[Captivate Android Development] watsa:
Whats the next thing you are going to do with it?
[Captivate Android Development] Uncle Irish:
Cover it in bubble wrap.

I'm leaving the USB port open though for 8.3 ;)

This is the worst string of luck I have ever had with a phone. Maybe it's karma coming back on me for all the iPhoners I talk ish to when I show them my phone.
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
Does that mean DarkCore is in 8.3? Does it even support voodoo color yet?

Sent from my Apex Blue 2.3.4 Ext4 equipped Samsung Captivate.
[Captivate Android Development] doctorbva:
Hey Watsa,

I have a request for one of the future releases of Apex. Can you please integrate TW4.5 (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1061883) rather than TW4? The current version in the ROM allows for little to no customization of the apps screen (unless I missed something). For example, the only way to see the apps in alphabetic order is to look at them in list view rather than grid view. I played with 4.5 a little bit on Paragon and I know it allows to customize/make changes to the views (among other feature).

It'll be greatly appreciated if you can integrate it.

Thanks,
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
Aaaaaaahhh...Paragon. Best froyo Rom ever....developer that fell of the face of the earth. I remember those days

Sent from my Apex Blue 2.3.4 Ext4 equipped Samsung Captivate.
[Captivate Android Development] Uncle Irish:
I loved that ROM. My bro-in-law still runs it to this day. I just can't get him to make the ginger-jump.
[Captivate Android Development] doctorbva:
Same with my wife. She says it's stable and fast. She doesn't like the fact that I spend so much time flashing and reflashing my phone :D
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
Anyone heard from that guy???

Ok back on topic lol

Sent from my Apex Blue 2.3.4 Ext4 equipped Samsung Captivate.
[Captivate Android Development] dizx:
Tell him to back it up and just take a sip when Apex 8.3 comes out.

If he doesn't like it, easy enough to restore it back. ;)
[Captivate Android Development] eep2378:
TW4.5 was incorporated in an earlier build of Apex, but it was removed in later releases after many users complained of lag/freezes. You can always install it yourself from the I9000 section

Sorry I meant to quite dictorbva post lol
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
I refuse to use a different launcher. Load it up adjust it and enable stay in ram...its not perfect but better than the rest in my eyes.

Sent from my Apex Blue 2.3.4 Ext4 equipped Samsung Captivate.
[Captivate Android Development] doctorbva:
Thanks everyone. The response does make sense. Gotta go with the general consensus. While you guys were giving me the feedback, I went ahead and loaded 4.5 myself. It looks like it's working with little to no lag.

Thanks again everyone and keep up the good work. Can't wait for 8.3.
[Captivate Android Development] watsa:
Its funny.. If I add TW4.5 people complain about lag and if i remove it they want it back :(
[Captivate Android Development] watsa:
when can i see "New convert to TW4 Launcher"???
[Captivate Android Development] doctorbva:
Ok... I'll level with you... if you teach me how to sort the apps alphabetically in TW4, I'll officially withdraw my dumb request ;)
[Captivate Android Development] watsa:
Its a valid request, i will see if i can get Tw4.5 to work better in next release
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
Just woke up.... Sleep death :o

Again, back to dark core :)

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Apex 8.2
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
NICE!

Sent from my Apex Blue 2.3.4 Ext4 equipped Samsung Captivate.
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
If possible...is there a way you can theme the new market with Apex Blue? IF thats in 8.3

Sent from my Apex Blue 2.3.4 Ext4 equipped Samsung Captivate.
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
It is probably juice plotter that is draining your battery....
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
20+ hours too... Definitely a Canadian thing :D
[Captivate Android Development] dizx:
Ha! As soon as someone teaches me how I can get more than three icons on the bottom row of the home page, perhaps. However, this resurgence for TW4.5 has me intrigued.
[Captivate Android Development] watsa:
My cappy was born in america, brought up in canada. Is it american or canadian?
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
Go into apps-preferences..set up dock count,then go to edit and put what u want down there!

I prefer 5

Sent from my Apex Blue 2.3.4 Ext4 equipped Samsung Captivate.
[Captivate Android Development] dizx:
I'll give it a whirl today!
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
Not settings/apps..but apps icon/menu/preferences

Sent from my Apex Blue 2.3.4 Ext4 equipped Samsung Captivate.
[Captivate Android Development] dizx:
Hmmm. I must be blind. When I hit the Applications icon on the home page on the bottom right, it gets me to the app drawer and then I hit the Menu button, but all I see are: Edit, List View, and Share App.

When I hit the Edit button I can only drag one icon to the bottom row. I can't get more than that.

Am I using the right launcher?
[Captivate Android Development] tkjeeper:
FYI...14.5 hrs, 43% battery, 1.5 hrs screen time.

Sent from the frozen tundra known as Canada.
[Captivate Android Development] Uncle Irish:
Post back the link to TW 4.5 and I will install it and get the exact steps for you

I believe you hit Edit, then drag an icon to the drawer, but can't remember.

EDIT

Yup.. Menu>Edit -- long press icon, then drag to app bar.

EDIT II

Or... from home screen...

Menu>Preferences>Dock Settings>Icon Dock Count

increase to 5

Back button select Restart and Save

done
[Captivate Android Development] d_gritza:
Only in the frozen tundra known as canada.
[Captivate Android Development] d_gritza:
What battery life are you getting?

A) regularly over 20 hours. Canadian

B) between 10-20. Immigrant phone

C) less than 10. American
[Captivate Android Development] zerkai:
Can someone help me understand how EDT tweaks work. The only thing that seems to work is hiding the battery and clock. I don't think editing the automatic coloring for the battery does anything either... yet, during random times my reception and WiFi signal meter would turn white. I don't mind it but it seems random cause I don't see anything for that.
[Captivate Android Development] sa1yan:
That is decent battery...I have 44% battery left; display on for 1h 10s, Wifi on for 17h 20m..

which is good enough in my case
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
Americanadian. New word for the day.
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
I can get around 14 hours with 1 hr 45min display time, ocassional gaming and music playing, lots of browsing and showing my phone to iphone and bb owners lol, down to 45%. after that I freak out but by that time I'm home already so I connect it :P

When I try to calibrate I activate the "torch" thing + music and 2 browsers on the background and in 2 hours it's out.

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Apex 8.2
[Captivate Android Development] tkjeeper:
Nah...Canamerican

Sent from the frozen tundra known as Canada.
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
I get paid by the letter
[Captivate Android Development] watsa:
The color edit using EDT takes about a min or 2 to take affect. Technically speaking its not synchronous.

The Wifi & data icons would turn white or green based on if they are used or not
[Captivate Android Development] killer_raj:
then with time..u must hav installed some such apps which is draining ur battery...
[Captivate Android Development] cnigro1279:
Thats a good one !!

Sent from my couch on my phone.
[Captivate Android Development] killer_raj:
my cappy born in canda...brought up in india..and still growin...and good batt..so what is it?!??!?! :P
[Captivate Android Development] killer_raj:
abt the batt charging..

when we use any battery operated gizmo..there is a simple rule..then when u put it in charge..and when ur device is fully charged and still if u dont unplug it...and if the device is on..then batt wont be used and device will use the external power source..as its still plugged in..and battery is full...

but in the case of this cappy...

i realized that..once the battery charging reaches 100% and if u dont unplug it..then ur phone knows that the battery is completely charged and starts using the battery..even if it is still plugged...so when we unplug it after sometime..we dont see battery at 100%...

so there must be some coding on the rom or the kernel..which could be modified..and could ask the phone to keep using the external power source..even when the battery is fully charged...

i didnt check that it was the same when it came out of the box...my cousin has the same phone..and his phone is still eclair..and not even rooted..so i will check his phone and will let u guys know..
[Captivate Android Development] xTRUEx:
ya its a bug
[Captivate Android Development] dizx:
EDIT

Yup.. Menu>Edit -- long press icon, then drag to app bar.

This lets me only put a total of four icons on TW4.

EDIT II

Or... from home screen...

Menu>Preferences>Dock Settings>Icon Dock Count

If I do this, after going to Dock Settings, I don't see Icon Dock Count option on TW4.

Now you guys really have me curious about TW4.5. LOL.
[Captivate Android Development] killer_raj:
its a known bug i know...but i m askin..is it a phone bug or its a rom bug....???

coz i didnt check when my phone came out of the box...

thats why i said i will check with my cousin's phone..
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
Okay guys I am tired of this charging bug... I am gonna explain it one last time.

When the battery gets to 100% the phone stops charging and use the battery. This is not a bug, it is a feature from Samsung to prevent your phone to burn, explode or just stop working because of overheating.

The actual bug is when the phone does not restart charging after dropping to ~95%

There's no fix for this as it seems to be random. Removing that feature completely (if it's even possible...) could cause physical damage to the phone and/or you.
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
lol u do say that a lot xD :p. Thanx :)

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Apex 8.2
[Captivate Android Development] killer_raj:
that means it shd be the same in the new phones..which is comin out of the box...

that was my only question...coz i know what exactlly it is..i only didnt know that samsung did it or our rom did it..

and moreover...i hav tested...if i dont take out my phoen from charge for say 5 hours even after being fully charged,,and when i take it out..its at 88%...means for those 5 hours it didnt charge and used the battery...and didnt restart charging after drop to 95%
[Captivate Android Development] T0N3Z:
i am having the battery drain issue too. and i did do the calibration

its like 1% every 30 minutes when i dont touch the phone
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
Check ur background processes, disable background data and/or auto sync.

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Apex 8.2
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
Give it a couple of days. If it's not better, reflash. I get stellar battery life and most of us too, so it's clearly not rom related. You might want to try DarkCore kernel too.