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[Atrix 4G General] nexusonemeover:
just ordered for $268 off contract from premiere store. was $368 but they applied an instant $100 rebate. good deal. no re-up fee, no contract extension, and just a few bucks more than a new contract price... anyone else want one at that price? haha
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
Uh, YES I do.
[Atrix 4G General] beazie0885:
Just pre-ordered mine as well. $368 for it and the otterbox. But no instant $100 off... Another weird thing, I ordered it on my wifes line on our family plan (because shes the only one eligible right now) and she doesn't have a data plan at all. When I ordered it tho, it said no changes would be made to the monthly bill except for the $18 upgrade fee. I'm on my captivate or aka "craptohate" lol with unlimited data. Very curious to see how this is going to turn out. Hope to god they dont up her plan with data... maybe I should go in to at&t tomorrow and ask them
[Atrix 4G General] BoostedSR20:
Just made a cart with 2 (family plan with my GF, getting one for each of us) both were $199. Came out to $423 w/tax.

These are going to replace her Nexus One, and my Captivate.
[Atrix 4G General] sigp23940:
I tried to order, but I see no option under data plan for no change. I have the $30 unlimited data plan atm. There is a option there for the data $30 data plan but when I select it I get a warning about it removing it. I dont want to screw up my data plan so I guess ill have to go to a store tomorrow and see what they say. I really really wanted the laptop dock for home. But I am not going to pay for a tethering plan to get it. Because I will only be using the dock on wifi.. :mad:

So I am going to the store I guess and see what they say. But if I don't get the laptop dock I will probably get the TV dock then.
[Atrix 4G General] panflute:
I ordered mine today from AT&T. Since I bought my Captivate 2 months ago I have to pay full price of $599. Expected delivery is March 6th.
[Atrix 4G General] davewuvswaffles:
As much as I wanted this phone after CES, the SE Experia's and even the Samsung Galaxy S II have caught my eye.

I didn't have the best experience with Samsung's updates, but isn't that what I'm a member here for?

That Galaxy S II looks absolutely incredible and looks to be very future-proof in the hardware that is has... the more I think about it, the more I want it. Lo, tis the bane of a techaholic.
[Atrix 4G General] kennethpenn:
I could not feel you more on that. I did a little write up/table of the specifications... comparing Moto Atrix 4G to Samsung Galaxy S II:

http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii
[Atrix 4G General] svengalis:
You should add the Optimus 2x to that.
[Atrix 4G General] nexusonemeover:
i just tried to order another under my phone number and it says im not allowed to have more than one of the same device ordered for my att# at any one time. so, seems i have to withdraw offering others that price... sorry folks.
[Atrix 4G General] miztic:
I went to the store, after some fiddeling they found it in the system and pre-ordered one with the car dock ($49) for me.

They did try to sell me on the laptop dock, its really sleek and thin, but I told them it was too much money.
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
Sorry folks but the Galaxy S 2 destroys the Atrix...

Cancel pre-orders and wait it out.

I'm going to hope Samsung has fixed the issues in it. (GPS and Lag, namely).
[Atrix 4G General] BoostedSR20:
Great comparison, do we have any idea when the SGS2 will be coming to AT&T other than Q1?
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
Get both :)
[Atrix 4G General] Squeak22:
How exactly does it "destroy" it? The only difference is the camera and the fact that it's a 4.3 inch monstrosity.
[Atrix 4G General] mircury:
Hmmm... isn't your speed on the atrix off? Shouldn't it be 14.4 instead of 21? I think the atrix has a slower modem than the gs2. As far as I know there are two different speeds of HSPA+ out right now in the US. For instance the mytouch 4g from HTC on tmobile has a 14.4 Mbps modem and the Vibrant 4g has a 21 Mbps modem.

Also, the ffc on the atrix is VGA vs 2mp on the gs2. You also might want to check your carriers again. The gs2 is quadband.
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
I didn't mean to Thanks you for that post, it's just next to the Quote button and my mouse lagged.

How does it destroy it? Let's see...

Gingerbread 2.3

Thinner

Lighter

Near-Field Technology

Super AMOLED Plus (Should be better than the Atrix's pentile qHD)

Gyroscope

The GPU - Quad Core

The CPU - Supposedly much faster than the Tegra 2

The downsides are the battery isn't as large as the Atrix's... And also, the fact it's a Samsung device.
[Atrix 4G General] smitty1:
Crap, now I have to wait and decided which phone to get.

There is no clear winner, Gingerbread with the release is great.

I was really thinking Atrix now I'm leaning more towards Galaxy 2
[Atrix 4G General] Squeak22:
Thoughtful conversations is always thankable! ><

The screen isn't better according to the spec's we have seen so far. (800 x 480) I don't really believe the 1280 x 720 numbers that I keep seeing thrown around. I can only find 1 rumor site that has actually said that and everyone is just linking to it.

Software should be considered a wash because Motorola actually puts out software releases.

We'll see on the CPU, but I consider it a wash because hummingbird was also supposed to be "better", but it was pretty much a tie with Snapdragon.

Gyroscope is nice to have but mostly unneeded, the accelerometer does a very good job with the right software to compensate for not having one, and even though I had one on the Captivate, I never saw any difference between that and my DroidX with anything that I was doing.

The only thing I wish they had on the Atrix is the NFT, but unless you are keeping this phone for like 4 years, that's not really going to be a deciding factor.
[Atrix 4G General] mircury:
Well, I actually think the carriers and their bloat have a lot to do with that. The official froyo for the i9000 came back in October 2010. We have yet to see froyo for the captivate. In fact the leaks of froyo for the i9000 were coming well before October. Samsung is not going to bad mouth its customers (the carriers) publicly. I think Samsung is bypassing ATT on the gs2 and I'm extremely thankful for that! As you know the international gs2 will be compatible with ATT 3g bands as well as European. So updates will come directly from Samsung and the XDA community, bypassing ATT. No more reoriented i9000 kernels!
[Atrix 4G General] Postal76:
I see the $100 discount on the perorder page, but when I go to checkout, the "instant" rebate isn't applied. Is the rebate actually being applied for anyone?
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
I had to call and sort it out. I did get it sorted out though. Dial up 611.
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
I have to disagree bigtime here. It's a super AMOLED Plus NON pentile display compared with a qhd pentile regular LCD. I just don't see the atrix being anywhere near as good of a display. Especially with GB Being a black focused UI.
[Atrix 4G General] harolds:
If you don't have a qualified plan & data plan I don't think you get the option to order off contract. I'm hoping that waiting for the phone at my local dealer will allow me to purchase of contract and keep my current data plan, but I don't think I'll get the $100 rebate and will have to pay the full $499.
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
Exactly.

The Atrix relies upon the pentile that the original Galaxy S had...

It's a step up from the original Galaxy S and the Atrix.

Screen is huge.

Gingerbread is huge.

CPU/GPU are huge.

Size is a plus (Thinner and lighter, who would refuse that?)

I'd agree on the NFT and Gyroscope, don't really care about either- but facts are the GS2 has it and Atrix doesn't.

Sorry but the Atrix was bested. The real question seems to be now... Why would you get the Atrix over the GS2, unless you want the docking options?

I believe Samsung announced the GS2 to kill the Atrix thunder, because they don't even have release info yet. That's the big unknown. Will it be 4Q or what?
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
Theoretically you should be able to order it without an ATT Account off contract.

But ATT does stupid stuff like that.

All I know is if I was ATT and making $$ off each set sold off contract and someone had money in hand to buy one, I wouldn't deny it to them.
[Atrix 4G General] co.ag.2005:
same here. let's hope I don't lose my unlimited plan!
[Atrix 4G General] co.ag.2005:
here's one for you. Motorola >> Samsung with terms to quick bug fixes, OS releases, etc. Every galaxy owner I know (from 3 of the 4 US carriers) will never buy a Samsung phone again. Bugs, delayed OS updates (or no OS updates yet, some are still on Eclair).

to each their own, but for me, Atrix will *hopefully* be a better phone because Motorola has a better track record with software stuff than Samsung does.

oh, and some people feel like 4.3" is too big. I know I do. I think the 4" screen is the perfect and ideal size... however, that is a personal preference and not everyone agrees.
[Atrix 4G General] degenerazn:
I really can't believe what I'm reading here. People are already dismissing the Atrix for the Samsung G2?? Granted its a super sexy phone with a beautiful 4.3 inch display but I take it that these people have never owned the first Samsung Galaxy S.

I've had the Samsung Captivate since launch and I have to say this is the most frustrating and infuriating phone I've ever owned. The GPS issue is still not fixed, we are still running 2.1 (unless you used xda to flash to a new rom), and I don't even want to get into the fact that the phone is damn near unusable unless you root it and install a lag fix. There is virtually no software support from Samsung with this phone. Too many empty promises about lag fix and Froyo.

I've had the Samsung Impression before the Captive and I will confidently say I will never own another Samsung Mobile product again. I refuse to make the same mistake 3x in a row.

And if you think I'm just trolling, take a visit to the Samsung Galaxy S2 thread at the Samsung Captivate general forums and you'll see.
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
Slight correction. The Atrix uses a different pentile arrangement. The atrix has a RGBW layout versus the original (N1 and Samsung) RGBG layout.

Thats the reason i'm giving the atrix a chance, perhaps this layout is better. Anandtech seems to think the screen is good. Not rave-worthy, but good.
[Atrix 4G General] nr2134:
Even though I locked myself in a 2 year contract last June with the iPhone 4, I preordered the Atrix and I got it for $199. That was weird, I thought I would get charged full price.

Although SGS 2 looks good, Samsung\AT&T left a bad taste in my mouth with the Captivate. Im also not willing to carry a 4.3" LCD device with me, its way too big. I laugh at my buddies Droid X all the time.

I dont think the SGS 2 will be out on AT&T anytime soon and I need to get out from my Captivate before I go insane, so Atrix it is, I will miss the screen from the Captivate though.
[Atrix 4G General] s44:
SGS2 will have a better screen, but Exynos (Orion) is *not* faster than Tegra2. Probably the opposite, in fact.
[Atrix 4G General] kennethpenn:
Actually, they've both been quoted to be similar CPU-wise in terms of performance. But, the GPU on the Exynos should be slightly faster than the Tegra 2 GPU.
[Atrix 4G General] SuzieRB99:
Pre-ordered my Atrix and it came up with the $299 price. Called and found out that apparently the Premier Store is having issues with their system and rebates not going through. They put a note on my account to credit the $100 back to my CC once the phone ships out. Just need to call them back when I receive it. Can't wait for this phone!!
[Atrix 4G General] Yaotl:
Any firmer quote for a release date than before March 6?
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
I'm hoping for MUCH sooner! I want it yesterday!
[Atrix 4G General] s44:
In abstract thoroughput, even the Hummingbird GPU is supposed to outdo the Tegra2. But in actual gaming situations, the Tegra2 wins handily (Nvidia knows games). The linked framerate benchmarks show the same may be the case vs. Exynos -- though closer, obviously.
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
Samsung gave the new Froyo update to ATT in November 2010 and ATT has yet to push it. I'm going to guess much of the delay is due to ATT. So who knows how much of it is due to ATT. Rumors are that Samsung will basically be cutting them out of the GS2.

I debated this myself. They're adding in dual core processor and a larger screen while only increasing battery by 100mAh or something like that.

I agree 4.3" is too big but you have to admit it'll be a better display.

No, I own it, and share your frustrations.

SURELY, as I stated, Samsung shipping 2.3 on this from the start, fixing GPS, SURELY, round two will be more mature. Chances of them sucking it up that bad again are slim.

Now, I hate no hope for FUTURE updates, I'm just saying that the device out the door should be solid.
[Atrix 4G General] BoostedSR20:
Last night I was going to pull the trigger on 2 Atrix's now after reading all of this thread, and the SGS2 thread in the Captivate section, I dunno. I wish we had more of an idea when the Galaxy 2 will be released...

I've also been torn on the Captivate. Its an awesome device, with some really horrible flaws. I have guys at work that bought them after I got mine, and I really feel sorry for them. (they are still stock)

And my GPS has never worked no matter what ROM I've tried.
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
I'm thinking it will be more than a few months out. I don't see it hitting before the summer. I can sell the atrix for it then if i want :)
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
Phone/Online reps said the only way to get this sucker off contract is at the store (I'm an individual customer).
[Atrix 4G General] s.m.knipe:
Actually, the screen will have 21.2% less pixel density and the amoled-family's constant over-saturation and not-as-advertised battery life (my Captivate's screen is constantly 68-75% of my battery drain). Android 2.3 is only "better" because it is hardware-accelerated, but still will not use the dual core (on either phone) to their full potential.

The only better thing I see is a better GPU, but you have to temper that with Samsung's history of NEVER supporting an Android phone after launch in the US. Ask a Moment owner, ask a Behold II owner, ask a Galaxy S owner... Only the Intercept has received support, but not for issues, just a firmware upgrade (which most of us would be happy with).
[Atrix 4G General] s.m.knipe:
Where is this from? I call BS... Samsung has NOT given an update to anyone yet, why do you think T-Mobile's update was through KIES mini? It came straight from Samsung's servers, not the OTA Google ones the carriers pull and test from (based off the past evidence with the "leaked" ROMs and their origins).
[Atrix 4G General] mircury:
Samsung is trying to be more open in the future and I like that. They have already reached out to XDA developers in a post here to which supercurio (amazing developer btw) responded.

supercurio François Simond

@SamsungJohn hi :) is it your mission to extend relations between Samsung and developers? Coz I'm working on it with Korea!

SamsungJohn John Imah

@supercurio Hello! Yes it is, just have some patience and we will get this going!
[Atrix 4G General] mircury:
He is referring to the galaxy s froyo source being given to the carriers probably. It's well documented just google it. The carriers have their bloat and then do their testing. Lets face it. If ATT wouldn't have removed the ffc and changed the backplate and all the other restrictions they did and bloat added to the captivate from the original i9000, we would have froyo by now just like all the other people who have official froyo on their i9000's.
[Atrix 4G General] WarningSLO:
First time poster. Pre-ordered the Atrix on Saturday. I'm coming from a Bold 9000 so this will be a big change for me. Hope to learn a lot from everyone on this forum. Cheers.
[Atrix 4G General] ajftl:
Can't pre order atrix off contract. Not a option online or even at store. U can only upgrade or discounted ..to buy atrix off contract at 499 need to wait till it comes out.
[Atrix 4G General] Squeak22:
I disagree, sir.
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
That's not true just evidenced from some screenshots in this thread.

The question is we haven't figured out why some people can and some people can't.
[Atrix 4G General] lsxrx7:
i just cant get the 399 price

nowhere it will let me

ghey
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
I'll be stopping in to the ATT store, hoping the guy I personally know is there, and seeing if he can work out a $400 price.
[Atrix 4G General] BoostedSR20:
This is a good point. I'm thinking I may go ahead and order 1 as a replacement for my GF's failing Nexus One, and see what I think of it. If I'm dazzled I'll get one to replace my Captivate. If not, I'll hold out for something else.
[Atrix 4G General] lsxrx7:
my friend went to the store

they wont even let him pre-order it off contract

stupid store told him to come back mar 6 :rolleyes:
[Atrix 4G General] nexusonemeover:
i ordered mine yesterday evening. i just got an email from att premier store saying they are backordered. email (and now order status page) also says that if they are not back in stock within 30 days, my order will be automatically canceled.

anyone else get this too?

i figure this is just their standard email for a not-in-stock item. yes, its a preorder, so its not in stock yet... or, am i wrong and the pre-orders are sold out?
[Atrix 4G General] Squeak22:
Nope, but I ordered mine in the morning. They may only have a certain number of units coming. It's a good sign if they sold out for the life and software updates of the phone.
[Atrix 4G General] nexusonemeover:
I just called Premier Store Order Support. I should have called them first. It was just explained that the orders for Premier customers arent handled by the same system as for a non-Premier customer.

The premier system is telling every premier customer who ordered one that they are on backorder, and its as I had mentioned two posts up... The main order page for att may not be telling people they are on backorder, but they are just as unavailable as those for premier customers.

Guy I spoke with did say that premier customer orders will be fulfilled following new customer orders. Other non-premier upgrades, and other types of purchases (not sure what, but they are some I guess) will follow in line after premier.

Seems new customers get the first batch! Let us know soon as tracking #s post online.
[Atrix 4G General] Benz360:
We will see I setup a new account with ATT and ordered in store so we will see when it ships.
[Atrix 4G General] Recon Freak:
Pre-ordered an hour ago

I tried to order the Atrix yesterday but couldn't get the $100 dollar instant rebate. I got really frustrated and couldn't get to a store because my son had a surgery consultation. Once I got to the store, Chris was a big help and found out there was a conflict with my text message plan. He temporarily took off the text plan ran it through and placed the text back. Got the atrix for 199 and kept my unlimited data. Also got the otterbox defender case.
[Atrix 4G General] BoostedSR20:
Just ordered one, $199 from the AT&T website. $211.99 after taxes.

Forgot to mention before, neither one of our lines were eligible for an upgrade. I have no idea why I was able to get it for $199. In my first cart, I had one for each line, and it was still $199 each.
[Atrix 4G General] trublu:
I pre-ordered at a corporate store in NYC. Paid $150
[Atrix 4G General] nimski62:
I am a Premier customer and I just got that email.. I hope it's just a fluke and we still get our phones early!!:mad:
[Atrix 4G General] ApplCobbler:
Same thing here. neither of my family lines were available for upgrade until May. It made me 'change my plan' to the exact same unlimited one (it noted that this plan was only available for people who were on 'gold listed' unlimited plans, meaning a grandfathered-in unlimited plan), but I talked to an att rep while i did the online purchase and he said it would still be exactly the same and would just be 4g enabled.

Should be here by the 6th :) **** Samsung
[Atrix 4G General] DumIam:
this is what my shopping cart said for the Atrix. I ordered 2 :-)

No Contract Price$368.49

$100 off MOTOROLA ATRIX(TM) 4G after instant rebate with qualified voice and data plan. Additional restrictions apply.

Offer Details -$100.00

With Discount: $268.49
[Atrix 4G General] kennethpenn:
I am so excited. Josh Topolsky's review relieved some of my stress with this phone. Fast, reliable, good battery, working GPS (unlike my Captivate), nice high res screen.

I can't wait.
[Atrix 4G General] xamievilx:
is there a trick to get this...i cannot for the life of me get the no commitment price...it only offers me the upgrade price...

does it have something to do with me currently being eligible for an upgrade? if i wasn't and try to buy it i'm assuming i'd see full price...am i I gonna have to suck it up and walk in to a store and try to talk them into giving me the $399? because i doubt they'll get it...

anyone have a good experience on the phone/in the stores trying to get this? able to get $399?

EDIT: just told this in an at&t chat:

Taaka: It seems that if you are eligible for discounted pricing, and you want to pre-order, the only priciing that will be made available to you will be the discounted pricing.

Taaka: Because you are interested in the No- Commitment price, you will need to visit the local AT&T store after the device is available in the stores.

and now she's saying i may be able to do it over the phone with business care...but you get the point...not online...
[Atrix 4G General] kennethpenn:
Yep. It sounds like you're eligible for an upgrade so there'd be no reason for you to buy this phone off contract in AT&T's mind. I'd head over to a store... they'll be able to straighten things out.
[Atrix 4G General] cegna09:
I was told it couldn't be pre-ordered by phone. The lady i talked to said that they hadn't even been told about the device, and she only knew about it because she saw it on the site. My options were online or in store. Since my local store is one of the worst i've ever seen, i went online. I re-newed my contract, but kept my unlimited data plan. I was originally told this would not allow me to get the instant $100 discount, but at the final checkout it randomly applied. I've checked, and i'm still listed as having the old plan, so fingers crossed i've got the phone, with discount, on my old plan.
[Atrix 4G General] ajftl:
like i said before... buing off contract only way is march 6 not pre ordering ,,,that screen shot its fake
[Atrix 4G General] Athailias:
I just sat on the phone for an hour with AT&T, they could do the phone at 199 for my wife, but when they tried to order it on my line it wouldnt let them. They are even overriding my upgrade for me to get me out of my craptivate. Supposedly they are calling me back in "20 minutes" after they get some help from their supervisor...
[Atrix 4G General] lsxrx7:
i went through the same thing yesterday

no dice

gotta pay 499

if someone can get it to u for 399 pls give me a name of the rep
[Atrix 4G General] nexusonemeover:
That's not entirely true. I pre-ordered off-contract through ATT Premier BusinessDirect. My order was accepted and I'm waiting for a tracking number. I didn't upgrade, extend, or start a new line...completely off-contract.
[Atrix 4G General] iceman4357:
preordered for 199 the other day, and already have my captivate sold for $200. :) Good to see that Designgears is in here. Looking forward to seeing some of your work!
[Atrix 4G General] rjayflo:
New here....I got my Atrix pre-ordered
[Atrix 4G General] kennethpenn:
AT&T Support = terrible. Just want to add that.
[Atrix 4G General] lsxrx7:
not me , but someone already getting this

att better pack mine tomorrow
[Atrix 4G General] kennethpenn:
I take this back. Just talked to an awesome guy on the phone who sorted things out.
[Atrix 4G General] BoostedSR20:
So someone has had one shipped??
[Atrix 4G General] kennethpenn:
It is fake. I can assure you. Tracking number is bogus and font is off.