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[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
The specifically said sometime in 2011 for IE9, Multitasking, and Twitter. I really doubt it's coming in march :P If it was, developers would know already because they would need to be updating their apps. It would also be in the recently released emulator ROMs.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mrTablet:
Can't wait for those update. Give it to me now!
[Windows Phone 7 General] domineus:
could've sworn htc and nokia at least said there would be some wp7 love for new devices later on this year

plus nodo does bring support for new qualcomm chipsets. Just sayin
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
there could be a diffrent reason for not releasing a phone with everything onboard. If they will do so, it will not give users much reason to upgrade. Now they agree with having a bad camera but more storage (or the other way around) and save money on a cheap part... while guaranteeing the user will upgrade their phone if they do improve the camera on the next version of the phone or add a bit of storage.

There is a certain limit to the quality people need from a camera on a mobile device and the amount of storage or pixels on the screen.

For me the omnia 7 has all I need camera wise, the screen is great... yet more storage would have been perfect. So this will probably make me buy the next version because I'm very pleased with it and know the storage will be getting larger and larger on newer phones... now its not a war about processors anymore, these 1 gig things do a great job for most users, there are no bad touchscreens anymore because of the capacitive screens and the ui being optimised for finger input.

If my phone had 1,2 ghz dual core, 64 gb of storage 1080p recording at 30 fps there would be no reason for me to upgrade phones for a while.

If they would introduce phones with those specs this quickly, early adapters would feel stabbed in the back and customers intrested in wp7 would not buy the first wave anymore which is still quite new and can still sell a lot if people know the devices will get multitasking etc. soon. The newer devices will show up around the same time as the first wave but then probably a year later to keep everybody happy.

We wont feel stabbed in the back, because we do get our clowd support, multitasking, c&p and all the other goodies and enjoy a smooth and responsive phone. Until the new wave comes and we get jealous and count the days remaining on our contracts.

Its really marketing strategy and gaining bad press by lacking features is a good thing... certainly the whole circus about C&P which really gave WP7 which is so simple to fix since there is support for it already so the news papers and techblogs report C&P is fixed and now MS announced multitasking... and they turn the badpress into good press by showing that MS is loyal and does give the users what they ask for!

The thing wp7 needed was getting known, bad press is what people report and discuss a lot more than good press. This is a general thing with journalism and the more hatefull people write the more pleased they will be if they get what they could not have instantly.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
It doesn't establish any loyalty. It establishes frustration and causes people to hold off on buying new WP7 devices because the iPhone is now on two carriers and Android phones deliver features lots of people want (even if thye don't necessarily need them). People who brought WP7 phones thinking Microsoft was serious about delivering updates faster will start to go to other platforms.

In the last quarter of this year RIM will have devies that outspec the WP7 launch devices, and people who switched off of Blackberries for better hardware will likely start going back. HP will have good WebOS devices out by then, as well.

The reason why a lot of people had faith in WP7 when it was launched was because Microsoft was said to have been gunning for a better, faster, more unified updating process, meaning that missing features had a good chance of being put in the platform before the competition got so far ahead. At the moment, they are doing terribly.

It's not instilling any confidence, loyalty, and certainly these laggy updates are working against Microsoft and turning into an Android/iOS selling point at this point in time.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
So you're saying Ballmer et. co. sabotaged WP7's launch and launch devices so they can have something cute to show at MWC? Excuse me while I laugh a little:

"lolollololoololollololoololollololool"

No.

Copy and Paste were ommited because Microsoft thought people wouldn't want it that much, and their excuses didn't cut it.

Multi-Tasking was cut because even the average consumer is becomming more informed on these matters and expect these things to work similar to other smartphone OSes - even though, yes, pre-emptively multi-tasking connected applications will destroy battery life (Blackberries avoid this via RIM's PUSH technology). The fact that MultiTasking was such a big deal on iOS didn't help, either. Smartphone fanboys are very religious about their platforms and always want it to "win" over all others. This works against some platforms.

Lastly. I think you people are making a huge mistake by assuming everyone who comes to or posts on XDA is a techie. The number of normal consumers who peruse this forum probably outnumber the techies 3 to 1 if not more...
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Releasing a phone with the same base specs as your last phone running exactly the same software is a waste of time for manufacturers. They're better off releasing another mid-range Android phone with that same (aging) SoC and letting the carriers subsidize it to $99.99 to make more money.

That Android phone can have all those things you listed above...
[Windows Phone 7 General] CSMR:
MSFT is putting hundreds of millions of dollars into this and it's getting as core updates: C&P in 5 months, multitasking in 12months. It's like they've got 1 guy working on the core OS part time. But a whole marketing department hyping his work.

Windows Mobile failed because Microsoft didn't get round to updating it: a multi-billion dollar mistake. At this rate WP7 will fail for the same reason.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sure haven't:
*raises hand* Yo.

Not a techie.
[Windows Phone 7 General] truffle1234:
come on 6 devices were launched 3 months ago...
[Windows Phone 7 General] ErikWithNoC:
I'm just going to throw my 2 cents in:

I like the way Apple does the 1 iPhone a year thing. This way when someone buys an iPhone they feel like they can use it for a year without it being outdated. One of the things I don't like about Android is that there's a new Android device coming out every time a new chipset is released (it seems like). If I buy a phone and a new, better, and faster one comes out in 3 months I will feel trapped because I'm in a 2 year contract knowing I can't upgrade. The current WP7 devices are quite fast and do you really think an average consumer is going to walk into a store saying "well this one has a dual core processor while this one only has a single core..."? They will go with which ever feels the most fluid and fast. A phone could have a quad core processor, but if it doesn't feel fast then who cares?

I just bought a Samsung Focus and I'm glad they didn't announce any new hardware as I would end up returning my Focus and waiting for them to be released (which could be multiple months). This way I feel like when my upgrade comes around I will be able to know I've got my money's worth.

As long as WP7 keeps feeling fast and I keep getting free updates I'm happy (I just wish Samsung could've used a matte black backing on the Focus).

It's easy to complain about what you don't have, but it's better to just accept and appreciate what you do have.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
No, the salesman will do that. Guarantee it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
LOL...not where I live. It's usually customers like myself who actually educate the sales staff about features and specs. It saddens me because I like having decent conversations with people who know as much as I do and talking to the sales staff at most of the local phones stores is like talking to a wood worker or plumber or something.
[Windows Phone 7 General] slighmd:
Any word on new API's which have been opened? something that could allow the Unreal Engine to run? or maybe instant messengers like Skype?
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Nope, however the kinect feature looks promising. I hope they add more to it, and I hope they don't kill it like they did Milo.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Ok let me elaborate on why I think a new device now is important.

I've used Microsoft products for years, XP, Vista, Zune, Xbox, you name it... When they say all this is coming this year, think more like around December 31st, that's what they do. 1st Nokia devices? Think around the same date.

Until then they still have to compete against Google, Apple, RIM and HP, right? It's important that they stay relevant until then because once people are turned off it's quite hard to get them back.

How do you do that? You release your Nexus S/iPhone device that most people consider great because they have everything people want in a phone. I'm not even talking dual-core, quad-core processors or front facing camera, just use the specs allowed today and then they might be willing to wait for the updates.

All the current phones are lacking that something that make many people disregard them. I have read/heard people saying they would consider WP7 if they had better phones. The missing features were not even the issue for them, the issue was the phones didn't look or feel good enough and that they had poor storage capabilities considering they're also supposed to be your Zune/Gaming device.

Negatives gathered from reviews:

HD7: Ok build quality, poor battery

Surround: Not worth the extra weight, poor camera, 8GB storage

Mozart: Poor camera/sound, 8GB storage

Focus: Plasticky build, SD card issues

Optimus 7: Average design and screen, poor camera

Now the 2 devices that gather praises are the following but they too have their faults:

Dell Venue Pro: Too much wrong with it to list

Omnia 7: 8GB storage (unless you're German), Europe bound

There's no reason why there can't be a great phone today with 32GB storage, great build, a great screen and a great camera. We at XDA may not care because we're there primarily for the OS but when people walk into a shop they do care about what's fancy in their phone. When the features are "coming soon" then at least the hardware should be appealing enough so that you're willing to invest now knowing what's coming.

The future may be bright but relies a lot on Nokia's shoulders as it is.

But hey, it's just my opinion, wrong or right ;).
[Windows Phone 7 General] adesonic:
There is absolutely no reason that we shouldn't have a more compelling phone now, chassis 1 is a minum spec, not a maximum, problem is that HTC, LG, Samsung don't appear to want to make one. Having said all that, my HD7 with it's 16Gb will do very nicely for me until at elat the end of this year, I rally am trying to get over the urge to get the latest and greatest when the reality is that the phone in my pocket does everything I need and more.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Can someone please embed that interview, not sure what I'm doing wrong:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgCtkJkq0S0&feature=player_embedded
[Windows Phone 7 General] ErikWithNoC:
I still don't think your understanding. Sure a faster phone is what we all want, but if we just kept waiting for a faster phone to come out we would always be waiting.

The recent android phones coming out have 1 ghz dual core processors with 1 gig's of RAM. If I'm correct most WP7 devices have a 1ghz snapdragon processor with 512 mb of RAM. The recent android devices still have been reported as laggy such as the LG Optimus 2X (http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/07/lg-optimus-2x-review/). If the phone doesn't feel fast then what's the use of the improved hardware? WP7 feels very fast and thats what people want to see. I bring this point up again: most people (average consumers) don't care about the specs of the device. They just want to be able to play games, get on Facebook, etc. In cell phone stores near me the reps don't really care about elaborating on the specs because they know people don't care. The representative that was selling me my Samsung Focus told me how he was really excited about the Atrix 4G so I asked him why. He told me just because of the laptop dock connector. He didn't even realize it had a fingerprint scanner on it, nor did he know it had 1gigs of RAM. This shows to me that when employees at AT&T attempt to sell the Atrix they will tout the laptop dock connector as one of its main features which has been so far met with negative reactions (http://www.engadget.com/motorola/atrix-4g-review/). You have to stop thinking from a tech geek perspective and look at all devices from a consumer perspective. I'm a high schooler so I hear a lot of opinions about phones. Currently the iPhone dominates at my school and I've only seen about 6 people with android devices. None have WP7 devices (at least none I've seen), but everyone who has seen it absolutely loves it (they like how fluid it is and all the little nuances that make WP7, WP7).

Microsoft is a great software company so you can expect them to really optimize the software for their devices. If you haven't seen the IE9 demo I recommend checking that out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu1MkxidEr4). This shows that their using hardware acceleration in their next iteration of the browser and how it blows the socks off of the iPhone in speed (at least in the speed of running html 5 content).

I do agree that they should have a flagship phone (not necessarily better specs, just their main phone) instead of a developer phone that they use in their promos though.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Ok you might need to read my post again. I'm not asking for inflated specs, just basic things. I did make that clear.
[Windows Phone 7 General] slighmd:
The first update will be coming out in a while. And there arent any signs of having IM's, no word on connecting hidden wifi networks, or just plainly play video audio through bluetooth headsets, basic stuff. hoping for these to come along in the first update, my WP7 is getting unshinier everytime i think about these stuff.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ErikWithNoC:
This I agree with. Microsoft really needs to step their game up with updates. Issues like these can be fixed through software and they seem to be ignoring them which is a major problem. I find it ridiculous how they decided not to release a fix for the Marketplace which is laggy, slow, and crashes (requiring you to reboot your phone!), but instead wait till March to release an update that were assuming fixes it. A major bug like that needs to be squashed as soon as it becomes a problem.

Asking for a new phone now obviously indicates better specs. A manufacturer won't release a new phone that is the same as the last one (internals wise). What WP7 phone do you have? When I show friends at my school my Focus they don't immediately look at it and go "This is way to plasticky for me to ever want one." They turn it on and play with it. A kid with an iPhone 4 immediately said it was better and wanted one (granted I don't think it was a really backed up opinion as he only played with it for about 5 minutes). I personally don't like the backing on my Focus, but the rest of the phone is great. There are trade-offs to every phone on the market and one just has to deal with them. I feel like you want the most absolute perfect phone which is simply not possible (at least I don't think it is).
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
If this is your line of thinking when formulating a response, you mind as well should just keep you mouth shut.

The general consensus in the industry and on this forum is that the salepeople do exactly what vevito said. I've personally experienced it. I went to Houston this past weekened and experienced it there as well. It happens all the time. In a T-Mobile store an hour from here the salesperson said "I wouldn't go there." just when I looked at the HD7.

It's a rampant problem.

It's not exclusive to WP7 devices, either. Half of them won't even recommend a Vibrant now due to the issues with the device (performance, battery life, lag, etc.). Don't even think about an HD2. It seems like T-Mobile's CEO mass-mailed a memo to every rep in the stores. They all repeat the same horror stories almost verbatim to you...
[Windows Phone 7 General] ErikWithNoC:
I don't really think anybody can call it either way without visiting all the stores. Some places they may not, some places they might it just depends. I have heard though that T-Mobile is notorious for not promoting the WP7 phones (not sure if this is true as I've never been to T-Mobile).
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
It's true. AT&T promotes thiers thanks to the iPhone going to Verizon. They have no choice.

CDMA carriers do not have WP7 devices.

2/5 WP7 devices in the USA are on T-Mobile. Them shutting it down in carrier stores has a factorable impact.

I've been to about 20 T-Mobile stores across 3 different states in the past 1-1.5 months (both corporate and independently owned).

They're all filled with Android fanbois shutting down other phones in an attempt to sell you a G2 or MT4G, etc.

I fell for that with the Vibrant...

#NeverAgain
[Windows Phone 7 General] DavidinCT:
I watched the whole keynote. I'm looking forward to Verizon to get one of these WP7 models now... I was going to move over to the dark side (Android) because of being sick of waiting for CDMA models but, after todays annoucements, I will hold tight a little longer...

Dam you Verizon...hurry up
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
That's not obvious at all, today you can make a phone that has:

- Metal body

- 4 " Amoled screen

- 8MP Camera

- 32GB internal storage

See, no mention of specs here but that's still better than most of the phones available at the moment. There's no need to wait for Nokia to do that, the specs are already there.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ErikWithNoC:
Ok, this is getting ridiculous. You're telling me, if say...Samsung wants to release a new WP7 device their going to announce it with the same exact RAM, processor, and GPU as the Focus, but have a different design and better camera? A manufacturer doesn't want to have two competing devices like that. As they release phones they become better. Its obvious to assume that a device coming out 1 year (or whatever period of time) from now will be better than the device before it. I don't know how much more obvious it could be. Plus Microsoft has already said new hardware will be coming out around the time Mango launches so you can just wait till then.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Agree. Releasing a new WP7 device is... Well... It doesn't make any sense.

Plus, Microsoft isn't allowing Samsung to use their own hardware, which makes it even less worth it because at least with the Hummingbird they can differentiate due to the awesome GPU and bill it as an Upgrade to the Focus - maybe with 16GB+ Internal Storage.

But to release another Snapdragon (Same SoC as the Focus) phone and try to say it's an upgrade when everyone and their mother is adding an SD Card to their Focus (Do you really think Microsoft will let Samsung put WP7 on another phone with an SD slot in it? They've learned their lesson from the Launch devices) to get more storage - you're just wasting money to get sales you most likely would have gotten anyways...

In that case, the only upgrade will be, the camera... Which is not worth paying more for a phone for, because the chances of it being a Nokia-level camera are slim to none. People will skip out on that one and just get the Focus for $99.99 or free in some places (or CL or eBay, etc.) and just add an SD Card to it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] pillsburydoughman:
I like how people discuss marketing strategies like its any of their business
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
I was just thinking about this... Is anyone actually looking forward to have twitter in the People Hub? Any way I look at it, that's going to be quite messy.

I know for sure I will not link my twitter account to the hub, people I follow on twitter have no business being in my contact list.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
I am, I'm also hoping for toast notifications for the People Hub...
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
I'm sure it'll work the same way facebook does. You can link the accounts and tell it not to have people on your contact list that aren't already in your phone book.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
I like how people criticize other for discussing things like it's any of their business.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Xylias:
Guys, phones don't grow on trees. They need to be designed, R&D has to be done. Radio testing has to be done, and tests for the touchscreen/memory/etc, etc. The last wave of WP devices were in November. That's about 4 months from now. Samsung usually releases phones every 6 months or so.

I think we will see new hardware, at MIX11 this year
[General Questions and Answers] rfisher1968:
I bought a Literati for only $65 shipped and was thinking maybe android could be ported to this device.

CPU:S3C6410 ARM11@667Mhz

Audio: None

Camera: None

Touch screen: None

Screen: Color 7" unknown X Unknown

Memory

SD: up to 16gig

User: 256mb(black) expandable to 1gb once telnet is enabled.

System: 64mb(i think)

USB

Mini USB: Mode=device

internal USB: Mode=Host(currently connected to a wireless dongle)

Network

Wifi: rt2860sta

3G: None

Ethernet: None

NAND 512MiB 3,3V 8-bit

0x00000000-0x00040000 : "Bootloader"

0x00040000-0x00340000 : "Kernel"

0x00340000-0x00d40000 : "resource"

0x00d40000-0x11140000 : "File System 1"

0x11140000-0x20000000 : "User space"

The Bootloader is:

U-Boot 1.1.6-g794ab523-dirty (Aug 23 2010 - 00:52:53) for SMDK6410

The Environment has:

bootargs=console=ttySAC0,115200 loglevel=0 ubi.mtd=3 root=ubi0:rootfs rootfstype=ubifs

bootcmd=nand read c0008000 40000 300000;bootm c0008000

bootdelay=0

baudrate=115200

ethaddr=[MAC of Literati]

ipaddr=192.168.1.28

serverip=192.168.1.27

gatewayip=192.168.1.2

netmask=255.255.255.0

The Kernel is:

Linux (none) 2.6.24.2 #180 Mon Aug 23 00:49:07 CST 2010 armv6l GNU/Linux

The resource:

It begins with FILE_SECTION04 and then a file directory which shows logo.bin, update.bin, and zImage_rfs.

Here is the development website with more information http://literatidevs.com
[General Questions and Answers] johnqevil:
Just got one of these today, actually. I looked up and down that board, but didn't find any info on enabling telnet. You have a link handy?
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] wpnyc2009:
So far my experience with HC eMMC is awesome! Very little complaints -even in its Beta state.

Has anyone gotten Aldiko to work? It doesn't install for me. :(

Aldiko 2.0 installed nicely. I can't really say how, just went through. Sorry.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seelinkit:
hi, i'm about to flash leedroid v 2 on my desire hd, but i was wondering what the kernels in his site for? do i really need to flash them? and how?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] McKebapp:
This is what a Kernel does:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computing)

Or, a short explanation: It's the interface between your Hard- and Software.

The faster and the more optimized it is, the faster, smoother and energy efficient your DHD runs.

If you're on Leedroids ROM you already have one of the best Kernels around.

In this case it only makes sense to flash another Kernel if you want to overclock your device. (And no, I won't describe overclocking, too. If you've clicked the link above, you're already on wikipedia to look that up, too ;-) ).
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
i think leedroids rom includes his latest kernel anyway, the flashable one is for people not using his roms :)