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[Epic 4G General] hayabusa1300cc:
I know I am not positively adding anything to the thread but just stating the obvious..

So many crybabies, mainly knx2 or whatever your name is, who's sole purpose was to turn this thread into poop. I wish I could scrub you off the planet. That may be a bit much.

But anyway, thanks John for coming here. I would suggest to make a new thread,

outlining a game plan so us the community and yourself can throw around some ideas as well as concerns.

I am sure you prepared to handle backlash from the babies, but still wishing you luck as to not get discouraged from making a great relationship between Samsung and XDA.
[Epic 4G General] knx2:
Samsung,

If you are listening please support accessories. I bought the samsung dock and I cannot believe it was released. I put my phone in the dock and my volume goes down to zero. Then I download the dock app made by samsung and wow, horrible. No settings to customise and the audio out doesn't work without an upgraded os??

Now a short list of my phone issues:

In display settings is an option that says power saving mode for the lcd. If I uncheck this and turn my screen brightness to max the screen is the best in the market, however if I come to a 90% white background the screen flashes like crazy. I had the phone replaced but can replicate the same problem on any samsung amoled screen. Even the tablet. Have o remember to toggel the brightness setting in the web browser if you are using the stock samsung browser.

The hardware keyboard misses keys. Enough said. What is the point of a hrdware keyboard if it misses key strokes.

Gps is horrible. Again enough said. My old HTC hero was spot on with gps and no circle showing a general area. Even in the galaxy tab commercial the guy walking around has a circle of general location.

Your gui is horrible. I took it off asap. Please make these things optional! If it is free in the market people will find it and if they like it keep it. I'm not sure it makes it easier to update phones to a new android version without it but that would also be a huge plus.

Thank you for listening because this is what I tell all of my friends at work, my friends friends and what they go and tell their friends. My friends look to my opinion because I live, breath and eat phone information. Plus I worked for Sprint for 5 years till I was laid off.
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Thread cleaned of crap. If you have nothing nice to say, please don't say anything at all. Don't make me clean this again, or infractions and bans will be dished out faster than you could believe possible. Thank you.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
I will take a different approach than most others. Instead of us telling you what is wrong with the phone, how about you tell us whatever it is that you can tell us. Is there any information that you are able to disclose to us with regards to the phone? Our problems are all prominently displayed throughout not only this thread but countless others. Can we hear from you, any information that you have?
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
Reading through the Epic 4g section of XDA forums alone is large wealth of information.
[Epic 4G General] knx2:
That is an idea but would take tons of time and patience! Let's just make it easy for Samsung and have one thread. The easier we make it for him the faster the good information goes to Samsung. Which in turn should make some really good changes for us.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
That would be great if he posted "hey, let me hear what Samsung can do for you?" He didn't.

He posted that he wants to open communication between XDA and Samsung. He wants to meet with developers at SXSW, which is a:

so that:

He then goes on and says he wants to "establish a partnership with you guys". Until he informs us of what he is looking for specifically or whatever, I dont know if its wise to just spam our issues at him. It sure sounds to me like he is looking for some developers from XDA to work on a project involving Samsung and maybe involving film/music. I hope its more than that.
[Epic 4G General] knx2:
Hah. Figures.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
In the Captivate forums he claims he is "on top of the food chain" and "on top on both media and the development side.":

Which sure sounds promising.

In the Vibrant forums:

So hopefully this is Samsung doing what we all hoped for, reaching out to XDA to truly help us make our phones "epic" (terrible i know).
[Epic 4G General] pipskicks:
You aren't the "boss" of Samsung, that is a weird thing to say...

I understand you cannot release it, I just think the answers sounded a bit....unprofessional.

I was doubting the validity until someone validated it...I don't understand what you are trying to even say really? Hopefully there can be some clear communication lines instead of people just yelling at Samsung because that isn't getting us anywhere...
[Epic 4G General] supercurio:
Hey bohiti, hi guys :)

I cannot tell if my discussions with Samsung lead to SamsungJohn coming here, I think it's his own initiative, but I'm very happy with it !

Couldn't be otherwise as it's also exactly what I suggested in the Open Source & community strategy I wrote for Samsung Korea:

Samsung Mobile Open Source strategy proposal

I made the document public for the occasion, it's open to suggestions :)
[Epic 4G General] diego1985:
I still don't believe the dude, and for yal that say you confirm he's legit. I just hope yal don't get pimped, I would never get my hopes up like this. Am I the only one fine this strange someone from Samsung trying to infiltrate xda, when Samsung could do this publicly? I think someone is going behind the scenes trying to put a stop to this work. But these are just my opinions and it means nothing to the mases. As a former smooth talker to the ladies this John cat sounds as though he's running game.
[Epic 4G General] PAGOT:
Didnt read all of this here. Just that he is legit. May I suggest if it wasnt suggested before if it was +1 to that : Custom name tag for him?

Something like LEGIT SAMSUNG EMPLOYEE or APPROVED BY XDA etc to remove doubt from future posts? :) Thanks
[Epic 4G General] aleph23:
Him saying he's his own boss just makes me think he's an independently contracted marketer... IC is fairly common on this level in large corporations in large-market foreign countries.

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
You guys are reading too much into it. "His own boss" simply means that he was given some loose directives by his uppers, and its entirely up to him to strategize and gameplan how to achieve his objectives. Its very common in the IT world with employees who are very diversified, I.E. not just a programmer nerd or not just a dimwitted PR guy.

John, I assume you have a degree in something like information systems or decision and policy making? If so, lots of respect man. That's my field :) welcome to the forum.

Edit: and if by chance you do have an IS degree, and it comes from carnegie mellon, then we're practically brothers :)

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] ruoppster:
Before you make more promises how about you get the 2.2 update to fascinate and continuum users!
[Epic 4G General] dito33:
It seems like one way communication from John the Samsung Man. So far what's for us here and why feed the monster I would say unless we get some kind feed back of what's going on and the future of epic saga.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
After reading through, all these post, I would like to thank u Impaler for removing crap..

And welcome john, I really hope u can help us out.. with source code and what not,

I'm sorry for the way a lot of people act on here, whining and conplaing like 6 year Olds

I for one am very satisfied with my Samsung epic 4g and how awesome the hardware is, I support u and hope to see some info on updates and maybe even better hardware phones that I will buy from u, I actually got fed up with HTC hardware they always seem to leave something out of there stuff..

So welcome and hopefully u can help our developers out and enjoy your stay..

:)

Sent From My Bonsai Epic 4g
[Epic 4G General] AndrewZorn:
I didn't mean John should leak the source code... I meant Samsung should be more liberal with releasing it.

Specifically, yes, the source code would still have the bugs... but I'll bet with the help of XDA, that could have been sorted out months ago with access to the source code.

What harm could come of it? We are already using software not deemed for public release... source would just be a bit of a help. It's not like someone is going to be able to profit from the code...
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Great to see an effort by Sammy

This will be great for both them and us
[Epic 4G General] daddymikey1975:
<looks around> where'd he go ?

I'm totally stoked that there's some type of participation, but there are questions that still need answered.

Hopefully John can shed some light.

<tosses John a beer>
[Epic 4G General] AproSamurai:
Just give him the respect of time to answer. We have Twitter proof, we have picture proof, we have confirmation from 3 valid and trusted members. Does he have to prove he's human as well? I respect the leap into bridging with us but a bridge is not built overnight with every Samsung device on this forum. So give John time and let's see where this goes.:)
[Epic 4G General] Kitteh298:
John fled the crime scene

From My Samsung Epic Using TapaTalk.
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Well if he works during the week I suppose he is doing something interesting this weekend.

Glad to see that Samsung has taken an interest in online media like XDA. I think after Egypt a lot of companies are thinking they had better be in the game.

As to what this does for us is unknown, but beginnings are always difficult. On other forums I visit factory personnel are specifically given some kind of id so we know who they are. Perhaps XDA should mull this over...

Sent from Bonsai v 5.0.3
[Epic 4G General] daddymikey1975:
I'm super glad to see a step in this direction.

I was sarcastically saying the same thing you are here. I'm just curious what this is going to do for us (the XDA community)... I (like others) are curious as to the purpose and reasoning that he specifically (if not samsung as a company) is reaching out.

My other question would be "Is John reaching out to us on his own or is this something suggested to him by Samsung (as a company)"

Till then, we wait and see what John has in store for us.

Sent from Bonsai v 5.0.3[/QUOTE]
[Epic 4G General] JulianUF:
Hello.

I am not a phone developer, but I do work with other computer/technology related things, not really important. I just wanted to thank you for taking this step, and I believe that it's a very good idea, and that many great things will come from it. I'm very excited to see what will come from this!

I have seen quite a few companies starting to reach out to their consumers lately, and in this day and age, I think that it's a very strong step forward from how things used to be, and will be a benefit for everyone. Once again, I'm very happy to see Samsung also taking this step. Thank you!
[Epic 4G General] dwallersv:
John, I have no doubt you're legit. A few points:

Please just ignore the skeptics, the rude, whiners, etc. YOU WILL NEVER SATISFY THEM, AND THEY'LL ALWAYS PERSIST. Save you're limited time and energy for productive conversations.

Samsung has a deservedly bad reputation with the XDA community. You have strong competitors, and they've been, frankly, a lot better at supporting their existing customers and the advanced user / dev community. HTC is huge here for an obvious reason.

It's never too late. If Samsung truly has had a change of policy and now plans to really step up it's support for the dev community, it will attract back many. Also, lots of activity by devs will sell more phones and build brand loyalty.

There's no point in having the most kick-ass hardware if it can't be used/exploited. might as well not be there. In fact, it's a negative and drives some customers away, both in being angry having to pay extra for something they can't use, and on principle of they whole "getting screwed" / being controlled issue. Lack the time and resources to do anything with some killer hardware feature like the piezo haptic mentioned above? Then always do at least the minimum -- expose interfaces in the SDK, and the dev community will do the heavy lifting for you.

I've got more, but that's good for now. Welcome, and very glad, and hopeful seeing you here!

Sent from my mind using telepathitalk
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Send forum requests to: http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=2433609
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
I hope he doesn't ignore them. Check out the reception he got in the Nexus S forum vs all of the Galaxy S device forums.

Nexus S:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=11294505#post11294505

There is a reason that they are cordial and nice in the Nexus S forum and there is a reason that every Galaxy S forum he posted in he was met with skepticism and whining and rudeness. We all know why that is. Its not because they are nicer people over in Nexus S land, its because Samsung supports one device while leaving a host of others (the best selling set of Android phones in the world no less) fully unsupported.

I would normally agree with you about the whining and skepticism and rudeness, but its not something that Samsung didn't have a major part in. Hopefully he is here to begin to repair the situation.
[Epic 4G General] dr_gibberish:
Welcome to the forums John. I, for one, feel this is a big step in the right direction (though I delay judgement until we see where this goes.) However, I could see this changing my attitude toward Samsung. I owned the Moment before the Epic and have been kicking myself for not giving up on Samsung after that first terrible experience.

I should also note that like many people here, in the last six months have been instrumental in the phone purchases of several others (my son, my wife, my brother, my brother in law and both parents.) My wife got the Epic too, but I encouraged the others to by HTC phones, particularly the Evo. Long story short - bad press on XDA has a disproportionate affect on marketing because power users here tend to guide the phone purchases of lots of other people.

However, I assume you realize that, and that's why you're here in the first place. Thanks for coming, and I look forward to seeing what becomes of this.
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Cleaned once again and infraction issued. Once more and it's a ban.
[Epic 4G General] SamsungJohn:
Thank you!

I'm sure we all have seen Transformers right? Remember that scene in the movie where the Autobots are arriving to earth?(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kps_CkEEkUo) Quality kind of sucks. I compare that scene as Samsung arriving to XDA! I will not let you guys down. I will be back on Monday, in the mean time all top developers please pm. On Monday, I will post a new thread explaining further details. Also if your going to be in Austin for the convention let me know as well.

P.S. I have been reading all your postings in the threads.

Thanks

@SamsungJohn
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Well thanks for the update. I can't wait to see what you have to say on Monday. Thanks a lot for reaching out to us.
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
Thank you John. You have a very great potential resource here. It will be interesting to see where things go.
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
Good to hear none scared you away

Android Creative Syndicate- From spontaneous ingenuity, comes creative brilliance
[Epic 4G General] thsisinsanity:
I just wanted to say hi and welcome to XDA John!

Your presence here is a huge confidence booster for the community, and one that is long over due at that (with regards to the 2.2 update).

With this relationship samsung will benefit hugely, and so will we.

Kudos to you and samsung for finally doing this, it's a great move in the right direction, I assure you!
[Epic 4G General] spf2722:
On Monday, I will post a new thread explaining further details. Also if your going to be in Austin for the convention let me know as well.

P.S. I have been reading all your postings in the threads.

Thanks

@SamsungJohn[/QUOTE]

This is kind of like a breath of fresh air, as long as I have been on xda, I havent seen this happen(not to say it hasnt), but I for one am totally excited about this. Love the hardware, no lets see what happens, and welcome to the Epic forums.

PS. For our members with nothing good to say, keep it to yourself, stay positive.
[Epic 4G General] wdenker:
I can't wait to see where this goes. I am a little more confident in samsung now that they are going to try and get a good relationship with us again. Good to see someone from samsung step up. Again I can't wait to see what happens hopefully something soon.
[Epic 4G General] mxcoldhit:
This is great news! Thank you for reaching out to us at XDA and welcome John. I hope we, as customers and a potential knowledge base, can help develop ideas that are beneficial to both parties.

Thank you once again!

Sent from my Shoe.... I mean my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G General] DRockstar:
@SamsungJohn:

Welcome, and thanks for opening communication! I think only good can come from it.

@supercurio:

your Samsung Mobile Open Source strategy proposal is great idea, I'm behind you all the way on this.
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Cleaned and infracted.... again. I'm getting sick of this, bans are about to fall if this crap doesn't stop.
[Epic 4G General] DRockstar:
Thanks for actually moderating, the epic boards have needed this for quite some time now... and I for one am grateful. People really need to think about what they're posting beforehand, and exercise good netiquette.
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
Welcome to the Forums. Awesome to see Samsung bringing something new to these forums which have been so stale as of late. Very exciting, I must say.
[Epic 4G General] crawrj:
Welcome John. I have to say that this is already improving my image of Samsung.

I am very happy with the phone itself. And I don't "need" froyo. But for the money I spent on a superior phone I deserve to have it supported for as long as the hardware can go (Froyo, Gingerbread, Honeycomb or whatever.) My problem is with the total lack of communication and the perception that Samsung made all of this money off of us and than just left us by the wayside.

I truly hope that Samsung takes note of our frustration and makes a change. Because right now I have three Samsung phones in my family and they will be the last three I ever purchase if a change is not made. I am, however, truly optimistic that you being here will spark that change.

Thank You
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
This is refreshing isn't it? Assuming its not just damage control, this could be "ground breaking" from a manufacturer standpoint. I envision a world where manufacturers and ameteur devs collaborate to make nearly flawless products. Solving each others problems. Innvoating software. Samsung could take a huge leap from low credibility to one of the most respected makers if they pull this off correctly.

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Your tone has changed quite a bit. ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=11003095#post11003095
[Epic 4G General] aleph23:
[BREATH: not held]

Master control would never allow it.
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
Haha, well played sir, but I'm not contradicting myself: I did say, "assuming this isn't damage control".

Those ideals I stated I still adhere to; because if this was just "damage control," I.E. lip service, then I would be VERY angry.

But I'm being cordial so far because I'm not about to shove away a hand that at least appears to be willing to feed me. But you're right: if that hand is just for show, then those previous comments will certainly reappear ;)

EDIT: and I do apologize for those harsh words before. Its just that is a topic, or rather a set of ideals, that REALLY gets under my skin. Normally I'm a pretty easy going guy lol

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Cleaned troll post.
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
Amen...completely agree, impaler's more active presence is a welcome & refreshing change.
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
+1 , I feel the same and agree on every point made... I do see this as a very important move by Samsung, and if done right XDA and Sammy will benefit greatly. I know the phone hacking community is a small percentage of total customers using the phone, but we really are the driving force of the best type of advertising; Advertising that comes from people you trust, and I know I promote the Epic everyday as do many others from XDA...
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Thread closed by a Senior Moderator.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Spazguitar306:
Is there anyway someone could make a windows XP bootup animation for the fascinate? Sorry if there's already something like this, I searched and couldn't find anything though. I have the XP bootup noise as a notification tone on my phone, but I really want to use it for when my phone turns on. A boot animation with just the XP logo appearing and playing the noise would be great, as well as a simple turn off animation to match.

Thanks in advance!

(sorry if this is the wrong section for this)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] phooky:
this sounds like a cool idea..

Coming from a BB Storm2, I think it would also be cool to see the Blackberry boot animation created.. Just with a progress bar that moves significantly quicker :p
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] imnuts:
Find me an animated gif image, or an avi that I can put into frames and I'll put one together for you.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Spazguitar306:
I've been looking for a little bit and can't find any animated ones, I'll have more time to look for one tomorrow though. But basically I would be fine with this screen:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uHVE0XthY4c/S6vELiAp6_I/AAAAAAAAAbY/Ha1SFVOInik/s1600/WINXPSP2_Logo.gif

with an animated loading bar, and then as soon as it ends the XP startup noise plays, and the Android boots haha.

If this is enough to go off of let me know, if not I can spend more time tomorrow looking for a better animation.

But thanks a lot!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Jaredsk74:
Found a Windows 7 gif if you would want that instead, saves people the trouble of having to animate and crop the xp picture.

Edit: Pic should now work, also included logon sound. Sadly windows 7 doesn't have its own startup sound.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Spazguitar306:
The windows 7 bootup would be cool too. The pic you posted isn't animating for me though.

I personally really don't care which version, I suggested XP just because that's what I'm using right now and I'm used to. But Windows 7 would make a cool boot anim too.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] s44:
No Windows per se, but there's this amusing fake BIOS bootup
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] imnuts:
Here is a CWM zip that will flash the windows 7 boot animation and the sound in the above rar file. I haven't listened to the sound, so no idea if it will match. Unfortunately, there is no way to get the sound to play after the boot animation.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Spazguitar306:
You are awesome. Thanks for being so quick about it. I'm about to try it out. Ill let you know later how it works. Thanks a lot!

Sent from my Fascinate running Froyo Blackhole
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] neyenlives:
It doesn't work on Superclean 2.1 Froyo
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Spazguitar306:
Yeah I just tried it out and it didn't work on DL30 blackhole. I flashed it over the aperture boot animation and I still get the aperture shut down animation but just a black screen for boot up.

Sent from my Fascinate running Froyo Blackhole
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] imnuts:
I'll take a look at it when I get home from work if no one else fixes it before then.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Spazguitar306:
Sounds good. I'm not in a rush haha. I didn't even expect someone to even attempt to make this tonight haha.

Sent from my Fascinate running Froyo Blackhole