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[G1 Android Development] cj chitwood:
Basically, yeah. Updates to fix broken things or add features usually require more code, more code requires more memory, etc. etc.

Plus, added features means more CPU cycles. However, you can usually recoup some of these if you turn off features you don't need when you don't need them. For example, when I'm using my phone, I usually have data networks, background data, sync, and wifi all turned off unless I need a network, and then I only use 3G if I need a LOT of network and WiFi isn't around. If I have wifi near, I use only wifi and leave data networks off. Crank up the CPU, too. I have mine set min-176/max-614, ondemand governor. When I first unlock the phone, it's a little slow, but within moments it's like it's running Donut again. Well, maybe Eclair.
[G1 Android Development] nvhush:
Strange behavior

I got a call yesterday from "Emergency Number" and it turns out it was just one of my friends from another country. He did not call with a blocked number or anything, but this call kinda freaked me out so I didn't answer it. Has anyone gotten a call from "Emergency Number"? If it makes a difference I am using a European GSM network. Thanks
[G1 Android Development] Sheist!:
That seems too aggressive for my G1. I tried it and it crashed 3 times in a row in short order. I am back to forcing 576 min and max.

I left it unplugged all night and it dropped next to nothing from the battery. It does start to use battery once the screen is on (not that bad though), but it no longer seems to leak like mad with the screen off, so looks like disabling the "use wireless networks" is what removes the battery drain problem, at least for me.
[G1 Android Development] yo9gnc:
after digging some more, ai found THIS POST and THIS APP. i created a test server using MOOHA(a syncml server- php based). i`ve tested with funambol app. i hope it will work with this app too. i`ve seen this app on xperia and other devices.

i know i`m a little offtopic but i just wanted to share it with you guys :)
[G1 Android Development] :
Been looking for you and this post to say thanks :D

After reading your post I tried doing it and it made a huge difference for me in battery life! I had given up hope of my G1 ever making a full day again and now I can easily manage that with some pretty heavy usage so thanks for sharing your thoughts.
[G1 Android Development] cj chitwood:
I thought once upon an old CM version I found a setting where you could enable or disable certain numbers in the "emergency number" list for being able to dial using "emergency dialer" without unlocking the phone. Could setting a number into this option possibly cause this behaviour? That's the only thing I can think of -- assuming you don't have someone listed as "Emergency Number" in contacts.
[G1 Android Development] robuser007:
Any plans for making a new recovery, Roalex ?
[G1 Android Development] robuser007:
Any plans yet ?
[G1 Android Development] chris122380:
It's been over two Weeks no updates yet. Maybe he is waiting on ice cream sandwich (Android 4.0) SDK to make a Android 4 ROM. That would be nice.
[G1 Android Development] Bolerro:
Two Months, not weeks :)
[G1 Android Development] GuyInDogSuit:
Let's face it....... Our phones probably couldn't handle a newer ROM. Gingerbread took a lot of modification to get where it is today.
[G1 Android Development] :
If you ever get even a semi stable Ice Cream Sandwich rom running anywhere even NEAR a g1 I will personally buy an Iphone and an Ipod and give up on Android forever and leave you all in peace!

Don't get to excited though, I have a feeling you poor gits have to put up with my and my sassy arse for some time to come :D

Now if thats not an incentive I don't know what is! lmfao
[G1 Android Development] chris122380:
They said the same thing about gingerbread but the CM version from code and this Ron both work very well.
[G1 Android Development] Litesorrows:
See I feel like I have the upper hand. 4.0 is optimized to run on any device. Just because an OS can run on a device, dosn't mean you have to give up on Android. That's the beauty of Android, if there's a will there's a way. Don't fight Android because it's amazing. Just running the stock launcher will be impossible. It takes 20MB of RAM to run. As I gloat all the time, I've been using ICS for a while. But it's a secret how :D
[G1 Android Development] :
Hahahahahaha quality!

Sorry but try my setup and all my apps and home screens and widgets and I kill Gingerbread in a heartbeat. Never will I get a GB rom that works with everything I have, bold statement but I'm confident I won't see it.

Hell love to be proved wrong......
[G1 Android Development] Maxamillion:
Have u tried ezgb or ads magpie?
[G1 Android Development] Litesorrows:
Lolz have you tried Nomy's CM7? My ROM kicks ass.
[G1 Android Development] :
Both :(

Not tried it yet to be honest because I like the on board keyboard and am just to lazy to be arsed going through setting it all up, getting keyboard then performing an hour and twenty minute Titanium restore for it to run like walking through treacle with a 500lb weight dangling from my testicular region :D

But just to be fair I will flash it I promise! I'm getting a Nexus One in a week so the G1 is going to be used to flash everything and anything (except sense) and also finally get round to finishing the gaming rom I started about a year back!

:D
[G1 Android Development] Maxamillion:
really? and it couldnt handle your setup? how long ago did u try them?

What exactly is your setup?
[G1 Android Development] :
5 Homescreens - 53 Shortcuts/9 Widgets ~ 4 require internet access (64 total) - 215 apps in total on Ext3.

Last time tried was around a month ago and then flashing pretty much stopped due to my mother being in hospital now she is out I have to help her out as she is still recovering so really need my phone on 24/7 just in case. As I said when I get the Nexus then I can be flash happy again :D

Apologies to thread owner, we shall continue this on pm if needed so we don't hijack the thread.
[G1 Android Development] tom0769:
Could you please provide a link
[G1 Android Development] :
Seriously?

You can't even read the first page of threads to find it?
[G1 Android Development] chris122380:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1298909
[G1 Android Development] tom0769:
Thanks for that!:)

If I knew the thread, I wouldn't have asked.

I appreciate the help you provide in all those threads, but it's not necessary to comment everything;)
[G1 Android Development] :
Actually you will find my posts per day ratio to be very low but thanks for the hint.

And I see your point...

GingerbreadbyNomy [2.3.7] . Simply the fastest. Possibly working on 32a. ( 1 2 3 ... Last Page)

Originally Posted By: Litesorrows

Very confusing and hard to find isn't it?

:rolleyes:
[G1 Android Development] Sheist!:
COS-DS Ice Cream Sandwich?

OK, so I am asking the question. Would have Honeycomb worked? Is Gingerbread the best we can do on the G1?

My thought is "no" since the days when T-Mobile said Donut was all we would ever get.

Honestly, I am OK with GB if that is really the best we can get on the G1. I am personally not going ANYWHERE until the AT&T thing is settled, since that determines what phones are worth using. :)

On a side note, I do wish Roalex would give us the latest and greatest, as we have been waiting 3+months for what I am sure will be better updates. I am still on the 7-11 since anything later is a bust for my G1 experience.
[G1 Android Development] tvall:
We don't have honeycomb source so we can't make it work well on the g1 yet. I hear ice cream sandwich runs well on the g1 (But I've got no proof and idk how reliable my source is).

If you want the latest and greatest, try ezgingerbread. Cos is basically ezgb with stuff from cm added. or you could try one of the many cm7 roms. I'd recommend the one in my sig
[G1 Android Development] Sheist!:
I tried GB Magpie which is good, but it lacks (for me) critical features from COS-DS. I just hope the Romanian Army can help me find roalex like everyone wants... :)

I have not tried that which you mentioned, and hopefully I won't have to consider....
[G1 Android Development] cj chitwood:
I think we would need to know the GB source to know if this would work (didn't I read a while back that GB was closed-source?), but I can't imagine it's that much different that it wouldn't run on a Dream if ICS would.

I'd like to see if AT&T-Mobile is going to exist or not. I need to check up on that and see what the latest ruling is. I'd like to see T-Mo continue on as its own company -- regardless of whom owns it. But either way they go, I understand Fiat owns Chrysler now, but Chrysler is still pushin' out Chargers, Challengers, and Minivans. >shrug< Can't see why AT&T owning T-Mo would necessarily mean anything would really be any different for us T-Mo customers. If we're lucky, that is.

I've been on a few ROMs since, and used two longer than a day or two. One was AndDiSa's ADS-Magpie, and the other is Firerats CM7-Magpie (my current). They've both been decent, but Firerat's gave a few extra features that I was using add-on apps for in ADS (mainly CPU settings and... something else).

I'll be curious to see what Roalex presents when he comes back, but so far I'm happy with Firerat's magpie. Seems pretty stable, random reboots are rare, Quads are in the 350 to 360 range consistently (373 was the max I have hit). Give it a try if you need an addiction fix for ROM-flashing. I plan to try Roalex's stuff out again once it's back in action, but 'til then CM7-Magpie is my daily.
[G1 Android Development] OptimismPrime:
I don't want to come off as demanding, like you owe me, or anyone here, anything - because you're not...but the post quoted was made September 17th, so 1 day short of a month ago, and your last tweet has been August 26th.

I think i'm not alone in saying, just a sign that you're still there would be greatly apreciated.

Don't have to give any ETAs on releases or anything....just a "there will be a new version coming guys, haven't forgotten about the rom"
[G1 Android Development] cj chitwood:
Sorry, nevermind / edited to delete
[G1 Android Development] chris122380:
Honeycomb is not meant for phones. Gingerbread is the latest Android for phones and Honeycomb is the latest for tablets. Ice Cream Sandwich is meant to merge the two and is supposed to be released this month. Once the SDK is out I hope to see a ROM for the G1 and mytouch 3g.
[G1 Android Development] my_former_self:
Ramblings...

No, because...

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We have the GB source. Hence...COS-DS, CM7, EaglesBlood, Bionix, etc. I'm thinking you meant Honeycomb, which is NOT open source (and I don't think ever will be with ICS coming).

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Ditto. So far, the Federal Gov't blocked it, but it's being appealed (by AT&T, of course). The Gov't said that it would create a GSM monopoly in the US and would not be in the best interest of consumers, as it would limit their choice of GSM carriers to...well, one :rolleyes: AT&T, of course, disagrees and is arguing that the merger/acquisition/joint company (whatever it will be) will provide better reception and data speeds due to the doubling of towers. Double the towers, double the reception and bandwidth. Sounds good to me. Except...

What they tend to leave out is that they also plan on saying "bye bye" to all of TMO's bands except for 2G/Edge (which both carriers use) and use the acquired TMO towers to boost the existing AT&T 3G & 4G bands. Yeah. Sounds really awesome for the former TMO consumer with any existing phone :mad: I'm sure AT&T will offer new contracts and new phones, of course :rolleyes:

I see the point, but disagree. If AT&T acquires TMO, it most likely will go the way Cingular did; complete acquisition. In other words, no more TMO after a short time; just AT&T. Again. TMO doesn't make phones like Chrysler makes cars; they provide a service, not hardware. So, AT&T is only acquiring the means to the service; towers. And removing bands is a flick of the switch unlike removing entire manufacturing facilities (in the case of Chrysler). It sucks, but it's just that easy. If the merger happens, I certainly hope you are right and I am wrong.

I'm out of contract w/TMO and have been for almost a year now. I bought my G2x outright and my wife is hanging onto her G1 (for dear life, I might say). We're just going to wait and see. If AT&T takes over, we're out. I'm not going to use a $500 4G (OK, OK...HSPDA/3G+) phone and get 2G signal. I know that wouldn't happen for awhile - possibly even to the point of where I was ready for a new phone - and I'd still have to buy a new phone if I switched carriers, but I just don't want to deal with AT&T, period. I'll probably go Sprint (Verizon once charged me $15,000...not a typo...for one month's service & then argued with me until I found a loophole and left). Let's just hope it doesn't go through; we'll get to keep TMO and they (TMO) actually get money even if they DON'T get acquired (it's in the fine print).
[G1 Android Development] chris122380:
I still need to make phone calls, there is no sprint service hear.
[G1 Android Development] Brickpsp:
i installed COS-DS for my G1,it is great ROM,but it drain battery too quick

i have battery 2350 mAh but only withstand 20 hours and my G1 is alway warm,is this normal for this ROM?

P/S:I have kill all task,and i only use 2G
[G1 Android Development] Jamaisx:
Really NOT, i had it in My Dream and i reach the best battery usage, try the "clear battery stat procedure" from recovery, bit search over internet because i remember that you have to full charge and then wait a discharge..... i'm not sure, sorry!
[G1 Android Development] cj chitwood:
Remove the task killer first and see if that helps. It's running constantly, looking to kill apps. Instead of killing apps, uninstall them. If you can't uninstall them, stop killing them (google task killers for android and look at the professional developers' reasonings for not using task killers). I would put money on this being why your phone is always warm.

Also go into COS settings and see if there is an option to set your CPU speeds and governor. If not, install one from market (I recommend "no frills" cpu tool). Set low to somewhere around 178 or 248, set high to around 528 or so (mine is 614), and set governor to "on demand".

Remove any and all apps you don't use more than once a week or once every two weeks or so.

Agreed, do this too, but this is not the total cause (battery stats being wrong will not make the phone run warm all the time). Drain the phone so low you can't turn it back on. Then, charge it until the LED is green without turning on the phone. Once it's green with the phone off, go into recovery and wipe battery stats. Recommended discharge/recharge is drain from 100% down to around 75-85% regularly and about once a month or two drain it completely dead (optionally redoing the battery stats reset procedure since you're already on a dead battery at that point). I've also seen this recommended for any time you flash a new ROM, but I personally do not believe it is necessary.

HIH

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[G1 Android Development] Brickpsp:
Ok,Thank men :), i will try tonight
[G1 Android Development] cj chitwood:
I posted that from bed last night... basically, turn off anything you're not using. My favourite feature of all time in these ROMs is the notification-bar power widget. Configure it, and USE it.

On mine, I have brightness, sound, wifi, bluetooth, 3g/2g, mobile data, sync, GPS, and rotation (in that order). I leave my brightness on medium, wifi off, bluetooth off, 2G-only, no data, no sync (and no background data -- press-and-hold to get to that setting from the sync button), and no GPS or rotation. Then, I turn them on only as I need them (or, in some cases like GPS, if I expect to need them I'll turn them on well before I do then keep the phone plugged in until I use it).

In short, turn off anything you're not using right then, including background data and auto sync (unless you NEED your phone to pick up your work e-mail, for instance, in which case just leave on background data, mobile data, and auto-sync. Anything left on will continue using the battery even when your phone is screen-off in its holster or on the countertop. Also, for apps like facebook or e-mail, unless you NEED immediate updates (and chances are, if you truly NEED them, it's for your job, and if they're that critical you probably get paid enough to afford a much better, more efficient phone), turn off their auto sync or make it less frequent. For most social apps, every 30 to 60 minutes refresh is fine. If you leave it on "automatic" or "push", it basically leaves a service running and keeps the radios in receive mode all the time. At least with timed 15-minute intervals, the radios can sleep occasionally as well, saving battery a little more (not sure if the radios DO sleep, just know if they do, they can't if an app is refreshing).
[G1 Android Development] Zirowe:
Hi, I'm trying to flash this rom on my htc magic 32b (vodafone), but I'm always getting bootloop at the vodafone screen.

My phone is:

32b s-off h (done with xtc clip)

hboot 1.33.2009

radio 2.22.28.25

recovery: cwm v4.0.0.5 (the one that's linked in the first post)

Swap 128mb, ext 128mb (everything is partitioned in the cwm recovery)

So what am I doing wrongly?
[G1 Android Development] GuyInDogSuit:
Did you wipe before flashing? Did you flash a kernel for your phone as well? You need a 32b kernel for your 32b phone. I'd suggest this one:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14768272&postcount=2427
[G1 Android Development] Zirowe:
Well, thank you, but never mind, I got it sorted out: I've flashed the 1.33.0013d hboot, and now it boots up normaly. :)
[G1 Android Development] Miguel1rulez:
Great ROM. It's very responsive and hardly any lag.
[G1 Android Development] nikione:
I'm using COS, the 07112011 ver

Wondering on a couple of things (It's been a while since I changed rom so can never remember how it was performing with others)

- Is there a set of REAL solutions to the latency problem ? I.e. I press on a button and most (but not all) of the time it will take up to 1 min to do something ? I am not knowledgeable enough to understand if JIT, VM heap, sd swap or whatever can have a positive or negative influence.

(Worst are: taking calls and Navigation)

- If I have 100 apps installed -- and I know that 99% of them don't do anything in the background ever, can they still pose a performance issue or is it just used storage ?

- CPU intensive ?, sd intensive ? -- or whatever other activity causes a reboot, I searched the forum but couldn't find much about it -- anyone knows if any sw or hw side cause has been pinpointed ?

- I have benchmarked it with Quadrant .. and it gives SUPER-good results (well above a Desire) ----- Is it *that* good using these custom ROMs and up to date kernels ? (I'm sure it doesn't measure everything, and obviously the benchmark is based on a few parameters)
[G1 Android Development] Sheist!:
Taking the CM7.1 plunge now

OK, so I am tired of waiting, and reading up I see good things about CM7.1. Trying it now, and it is on 2.3.7 so not bad so far.

UPDATE: still testing it for speed and bugs and crashes... still seeing that annoying thing where the browser gets progressively slower the longer it is open.

I did seem to have trouble with the 2.6.36 kernel, so went with 2.5.35.13 farmatito and that got me past the hung G1 splash screen.

UPDATE #2: the farmatito did not actually get installed (funny, I thought it did), so just kept trying and got the 2.6.36.4 kernel to work.

On a disappointing note, it also hung at the G1 splash when I tried (twice) the TD HCUL color patch from Effdee (which works fine with COS-DS). Sigh. Not sure I want to try it a 3rd time, but I have a good nandroid now at this level so I may give it a go again and see if the 3rd time is the charm. ;)

UPDATE #3 - well, looks like the Effdee patch does work; 3rd attempt is the charm. I just wish something would install correctly the first time... ROM, kernel, patcher, whatever. Sigh.

The CM7.1 bundle also suggests using the s2e app (free from market) since CM7.1 does not have apps2sdext built in, but I found setting the apps to Internal and NOT using the s2e app, I had 40mb free space, whereas I had only 9mb free with it set to External and that app enabled. I don't know if this means I have apps2sd enabled instead, but at any rate, it saves me from having to put the dalvik on SD, since 9-10mb free on /data just wasn't cutting it. Not sure what would happen if I left apps on Internal and then trying s2e again... instructions on that app aren't as comprehensive as I would like, particularly about that setting in CM settings.

The lockscreen is a little different; 2 circles, and drag the left circle to the right and the effect is the ring expands toward you and disappears.

It comes with ADW Launcher, which I uninstalled in favor of LauncherPro. (I just love that little dockbar that holds 15 app shortcuts in a slider of 3 trays)

It has frozen, has crashed, and had closed some apps strangely by themselves. Sigh. Not too buggy though, might stay on it. Had same off/on issues while on COS-DS, so will try it for a few more days before I decide for sure.
[G1 Android Development] GuyInDogSuit:
2.5.7? That's not the kernel version, is it?
[G1 Android Development] tvall:
I'm guessing he meant 2.3.7. The version many android roms are now
[G1 Android Development] OptimismPrime:
COS-DS is dead!

Ok, so let's face facts here.

On September 17th roalex last posted in this thread, saying he would have a new Version out in "1, maybe 2 weeks".

Looking at the current date this was stated 1.5 months ago, and the release date passed about a month ago.

roalex himself encouraged people "to play with Terry's ROM, after all COS-DS is mostly that."

And i suspect that one of the reasons there has not been a new COS-DS, is because there has not been a new ezGingerbread RELEASE since August.

I say Release, because although Terry has not posted a new binary distribution of ezGB, he has worked on the code. There is a lot of sourcecode sharing back and forth between "ezGingerbread" and Andis Sa's "ADS_magpie", and that is what i used for the last 2 weeks.

ADS_magpie is more responsive and feels overall faster then any other rom i tried since COS-DS went on hiatus.

It does not have EVERY little bell and whistle that CM7.1 has, but then again, the G1 was dropped from being officialy supported by CM after 6.1 because throwing everything CM has to offer at a G1 simply doesn't produce a satisfying and stable experiance.

I encourage everyone here to check out ADS_Magipe @ http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9870397/android/ADS_magpie/index.html
[G1 Android Development] chris122380:
Can't find the call vibrate settings or the touch ui on the ADS_magpie ROM any ideas how I can get those.
[G1 Android Development] creezalird:
go into Settings, under Sounds and ezgb settings, there are options for haptic feedback
[G1 Android Development] chris122380:
That doesn't give me control on call vibrating settings or the call touch ui.
[G1 Android Development] creezalird:
i'm not really sure which vibration settings/call touch UI that u need, other than what I've told in previous comment. But as far as i know, in ezGB, that is the place where the settings should be, maybe it is not configurable like in COS-DS because ezGB is more like stock rom with added enhancement.
[G1 Android Development] chris122380:
It's under call settings in COS~DS can't find it in ADS_magpie.