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[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] davew:
I was going to let you have the last word till you accused me of being a troll. To me a troll is someone deliberately provokes a forum 'cos they get a kick out of the chaos it causes.

Let me tell you I'm not enjoying this nor getting a kick out of it. Ordinarily, I would not waste my sunday afternoon sitting here trying to encourage a bunch of obviously talented, but utterly misguided, devs to get off their collective asses and fix the major show stopping bugs before moving on to the next cool bit of functionality.

Lets face it, there is a a lot of geek cred to be had from porting linux (or android) to a new hardware platform. However there is much, much more geek cred to be had from actually getting it working properly.

PS and "It works for me" is the laziest cop-out in the whole world of software development.

Now I'm done here.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Good, I sincerely hope so.

Oh, and it does work for me... I guess you just bought the wrong phone.

^^ Is that what you were looking for? LOL. Hope you have a nice life, shame you couldn't help us out.

You are trolling tho, please stop. I'm just trolling you back :D.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Mittaa:
Hi all

I’m the owner of a HTC Touch HD (WinMo) and are new to Android.

YES XDAndroid its not stable

YES XDAndroid battery time is sometimes bad

YES XDAndroid will proberly never be my everyday phone

But being able to run XDAndroid from my SD card, have been very valuable in terms of getting used to Android OS and the apps from Android Market :)

It have been such a pleasure that I postponed buying a "real" Android phone even my wife have allowed me buy one ... LOL
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
I don't suppose he was open to buying everyone an Android native device? :D Oh well, I guess it was too much to look forward to some knowledge sharing at the very least... ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] stinebd:
Or because I have a god damn full time job and all this stuff takes time.

Hey guess what? Someone else (who isn't even a part of the core team!) got the camera working. The accelerometer took a few hours. I haven't even really tried to fix the GPS.

I'm not avoiding these "showstopper" issues because they're "not fun" to fix. I'm actually working on what I can, when I can. Sorry I can't sit at the computer, stare at some Java and get all this crap working in five minutes.

Yes. If you don't want to deal with issues caused by us unprofessional developers who DARE to release our pet project to the public, stop using it, buy a real Android phone, and shut up on here.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] dermann:
tried this over the weekend and it has been the best build i've tried so far! ;)

their are only two things that would be great with this, with everyone IMO.

they are...

1. A NAND (but that's awhile off)

2. Swype (love swype, i can't text without it now. lol)

looking forward to future releases. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
NAND is probably a while off for the RAPH. Really not even close to completion on RHOD ;).

Swype is proprietary 3rd party software... You can feel free to install it, but AFAIK you have to pay for it. I can't really help you with 3rd party software, sorry ;).

Wait - you have a RAPH... what do you need Swype for? Isn't that why you have that beautiful 5-row keyboard!?! That's certainly why I had a RAPH and now have a RHOD. No replacement for a great kbd :p.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hrk7474:
And i think someone who doesn't understand that should do exactly as suggested. ;)

I would like to take this opportunity to express respect, thankfulness and (moral) support to all those making this whole XDAndroid possible.

I, for one, use XDAndroid on a daily basis. The few bugs that are present can be worked around with a little effort and common sense, and of course some capable hackers and developers going out of their way to assist with and deliver the goods.

Mind you (everybody), this is still in the ALPHA-phase, but bloody well running.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] emc02:
i am just testing this Gingerbread release GBAX0 from 11.03. and it is very fast on my DIAM100. And my phone does not go to SOD during a call, like it did wit FRX05! Thats amazing!

Great work!

I'll do some testing and then post it!

First thing i found out: Autorotation works, but rotates in wrong directions.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] lilraphael:
data disconnects as soon as you make and receive a call. Android also restarts when you try turning on the bluetooth. All the same, good job mate.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
BT shouldn't work... Any idea as to which device you are testing this on?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rabidrabbit001:
Hi. I am a noob but can follow instructions very well. I have a Raph 110 with Energy Dinik 21916 snse 2.5 cookie 1.8.5. Am now Dual Booting XDANDROID GBX0A. I tested the FRX05 and I liked it but it kept on freezing up and wifi was buggy. Not really a daily user build. I enjoy testing these new builds Especially this one GBX0A. MUCH APPRECIATION TO THE DEVELOPERS AND TESTERS INVOLVED. This is a very promising and well rounded build so far as I have tested. Does anyone know if the usb debuging is disabled in this build. And does anyone else seem to have the problem of when you are done talking on the phone the phone does not automaticly "end call" and go to home screen. I have to press the power button, unlock then press end call. I have tested it out several time and it has stayed on the call screen for as long as 30 seconds after a finished call before I press end call. As noted in the previous post BT does not work on my device either. Was it disabled for this test build or just not included in the kernal pack? Also DEV TOOL app crashes every time I try to use it. AGAIN MUCH APPRECIATION TO THE DEVELOPERS AND TESTERS INVOLVED

Thank you
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rabidrabbit001:
P.s.

Apps Market app does not load in apps folder until WiFi is up and running.

JuiceDefender App has helped alot with battery consumption. Advanced app killer keeps apps from running all the time and draining resources.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] emc02:
Full Bundle from March 11 on Diam100

Tested this in everyday use and found out:

1) reboots when GPS is active (i know, that is not working yet)

2) APN Data connection works sometimes, sometimes there is an network error

3) downloading from market only works with WIFI even if APN data connection wirks

4) Display rotation works fast, but in wrong directions

5) activating bluetooth makes reboot

the good thing:

is very fast an with deactivated GPS very stable, no reboot and no freezing for about 12 hours of use (phone, sms, email, wifi, syncing, installing apps and more)

battery lasts as long as on FRX05

no SOD during calls!

great work!!! very nice!!!

I forgot: I have no ringtone or message tone, but vibrating works well and that is ok fpr me ;-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] emc02:
ok, the solution for DIAM100 is:

change "gsensor_axis=2,-1,3" to "gsensor_axis=-2,1,3"

works perfect!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Is this different from Froyo...?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] funkys:
yes it is. You have to change sys.txt in order to work proper in Gingerbread.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Interesting that it works in Froyo but differently in GB. This isn't status quo for RHOD.

Can any RAPH user confirm? Perhaps it's just DIAM.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hrk7474:
That's because of missing Media folder. You can take that folder out of another bundle/build and add it. While booting it echoes this at some point:

'You have no media folder. Please extract from .....'
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
stine rolled the media folder into the system image, so there's no need for it.

The reason his rings aren't working is he probably needs to format his SD with the HP Tool or something similar - the built-in WinMo and Windows utilities don't seem to work that well (surprise!).

So there's no need for the media folder on gb, as I understand it. I get rings on gb no problem - no media folder present.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] emc02:
I formatted the internal storage with the HP tool, but still no ringtones... i can select them, but i cant hear any sound

but phone calls work well!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hrk7474:
:D

But, just for kicks, i format in Win7x64 all the time, just make sure the allocation unit size is set to 4096. Works like a charm :P

I think i had the no-tones thing with the first GBX, and remeber seeing that line while booting. I saw this line while booting with the new system too, so i just added the folder anyway. Running pretty nicely now, so i'm not gonna check right away if it's ok without that folder. Should be though, right.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Media volume turned up...? I don't know what else would cause that - if you can select them, they are there!

Yup, should work just fine without the folder - mine does ;).

Oh and on the Win7 format tool - others have had problems with formatting their cards using the built-in utilities - which is why I recommend the HP Tool ;).
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] emc02:
yes, media volume is turned on! normally there is a "ping" tone when turning volume louder, but i cant hear that. it seems my speaker isnt activated...

but... after copying the media folder in it and deleting it again the sound works... ok, dont know why, but its ok, thanks ;-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Oo I need to look into this... Thanks for the report!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] emc02:
after reboot sound is gone again...

thats what i did:

formatted internal storage with HP tool

copied all files from GBX0A to internal storage and booted to Android -> no sound, but i find some media files to select as ringtone and notification

copied media folder from FRX04 to internal storage in WinMo -> no sound, but can choose all media files

deleted media folder in WinMo and booted to Android -> sound, yeah

reboot -> no sound

interesting ;-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rabidrabbit001:
With Raph 110 gsensor_axis=-1,-2,3 works perfect.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rabidrabbit001:
arrrghhh,

Was the usb debuging disabled in this (GBX0A) build?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Nope, shouldn't be.

I did notice that the notification didn't always pop up correctly in GB - no clue why that would be honestly. It *should* still work tho.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] emc02:
i have just tested the htc-msm-linux@20110316_191440 kernel, but i have a lot of reboots with it

is it not good to take the newest kernels for gingerbread build? or should the kernel be especially for Gingerbread?

thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Newest kernel has a lot of new stuffs in that might need some tweaking.

Does the kernel I've included in this bundle work (1276)?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] emc02:
your Bundle from March 11 is good, of course bluetooth and gps dont work, but its very stable. I have no reboots, with normal usage battery time is up to 14 hours with data connection on and 3 email accounts checking every 30 Minutes and syncronisation on.

But i have sometimes no ringtone... i can select them, but there is also no "ping"-sound on turning volume louder. I posted that in a previous post!

wrong display rotation is solved for diam100:

so there are only 3 things left to do:

gps

bluetooth

ringtones (and notifaction tones) everything with loud sound ;)

i think this depends on the "media"-Folder, because when i create the folder on the next reboot i have sound, but when i reboot again the sound is gone, but on deleting the media folder i have sound again on next reboot and sound is gone if i boot again and so on ...

you do great work here!!! amazing!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] 13x025:
Well, I do not talk very much but I simply can't leave this without a comment.

Even though it is in an alpha stage, this build is simply amazing!

Much, much more stable than the FRX04-05 builds.

My Diamond (DIAM100) always wakes up from deep sleep, I've never missed a call and fortunately I have no problems with the media folder or with the sounds, whatsoever.

From the moment I "installed" it I tortured the phone for a good 4-5 hours, installed dozens of apps, games, then uninstalled them, changed every setting that's changeable ( ;) )

It just worked, without a glitch.

Of course, if you're a Diamond user you have to accept the fact that you're short on memory (RAM)... Programs start a bit slowly, and some games are unplayable... but that's OK with me.

Camera is working great, thus Bar-code scanners are working too...

I am able to turn on/off Wifi whenever I want... it connects all the time.

Awesome!

I'm eagerly waiting for the next release. I hope it'll address the issues with the GPS and Bluetooth.

Thank you!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] emc02:
"Solved" the sound problem on my diam100...

... I always disabled sound in WinMo and got troubles (once there was sound, once not, as posted before) with the sound in Android.

Now i enabled sound in WinMo and have sound in Android too. Works well. But I didn't think, that WinMo influences Android that much.

Because the light sensor is also influenced by WinMo (also in FRX0X).

I set it automatically in WinMo and NOT automatically in Android and it works well now. But all other configurations (like manual in WinMO and auto in Android or something else) will cause black screen sometimes.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Eodun:
It's because WM initializes HW and Android uses it. BTW, it's strange that you have that behaviour with brightness, I get better results disabling auto in WM and autobacklight in Android...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] MFaust:
hye... i trie to copy "ASTRO File Manager (2.3.1).apk" in AndroidApps folder but after i boot Android from my phone Astro is not recognised... i cant find him in the program menu

what can i do to install astro...(ps the internet dosn`t work)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Do you want help getting 3g working...? "The internet" should work in this build, whether you use wifi or 3g.

You place the apk at the base of the AndroidApps folder, not within a folder inside of the AndroidApps folder yes?

Assuming you have done that, it should work just fine. Perhaps the APK fails to install, then you'd have to debug why the APK failed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Yuuki_Minoru:
I'[m really excited about the GingerBread release.

my feedback so far: Boots much faster, Camera works perfectly, 3G works, Wifi works flawlessly.

but.

deep sleep issues are back, and their bad. As soon as the screen goes dark, the phone is useless. I can push the power button to put it to sleep, and then a second later, it wont wake up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] artmodeler:
hi guys , i have question. When my raphael goes to sleep mode , it's doesn't wake up:( what's wrong?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] cfuess:
My Rhodium sometimes takes a little while to wake up (5 sec. or so), so I end up pressing power a few times, but that just makes it worse. Maybe just press power once and wait. I'm still testing and I have also needed to reboot before but waiting usually works.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] artmodeler:
I found the problem . It was bug in kernel image:) Download fresh kernel image , and this bug will leave u:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
So... which kernel was causing the issue and which resolved it? I assume you had the issue on the kernel included in the bundle and updated to the newest on GIT?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Entropy512:
Well, the "fix it yourself or shut up" sometimes comes out when some user is particularly loud that people should take the project where THEY want to go.

arrghh has already given the reasons why support varies across devices - many of the developers/testers have RHODs. Many devs have actively supported devices they don't own with the help of a highly cooperative tester (for example, arrrghh and rpierce99 are actively supporting the CDMA testing of a RIL rewrite for a guy who doesn't have a CDMA phone himself.)

Yes, the bugs you mention are really nasty ones in the kernel, and people (mainly WisTilt2) are actively working them on devices which they have the ability to test on/have good testers for. Some of those fixes might help DIAM users too, no clue. Heck, even a subset of RHOD users aren't in the best shape (stupid RHOD100 AUO panels...)

As to work going on in other areas - remember that various developers have various skillsets. Some developers are hardcore kernel guys (failed wake/SoD are mostly a kernel problem), some are userland guys (we can't help you, sorry, we just don't have the skillset to hack the kernel but we're going to keep working on the stuff we CAN work on.)

It's a community project with volunteers from all over the world pitching in - if it's not what YOU want, then you have three options:

1) Stop using it

2) Complain loudly about it and anger everyone who might be able to help you

3) Pitch in, either by working the code, or helping with testing in a constructive manner
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Mittaa:
Entropy512 - I totally agree and can't wait for next GBX0 build.

So keep up the good work :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] stinebd:
New testing image time!

Just a couple really minor changes here, but with visible effects so users can gawk and point and laugh at us.

Further tuned keyboard sizing to be useful on VGA (also made the key labels bigger)

World-phone settings support (very important for future RIL enhancements especially on CDMA)

Enabled HSPA icon (someone on GSM please let me know if it actually works)

New image is at http://files.xdandroid.com/system-gingerbread-testing-20110325.zip and is, as usual, signed so you can keep your data.img assuming nothing goes horribly wrong.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Yuuki_Minoru:
I've tried the latest and original kernels, and to no avail.

RAPH100 though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] emc02:
Hi!

Just testing this update on my GSM Diam100:

keyboard is nice

New Network settings: I have testet "GSM only" and "GSM/WCDMA preferred"

on selecting "GSM/WCDMA auto" I got an reboot

i dont see a HSPA icon, where should this be? only see the standard 3G icon when connected to data

is it possible to make a manual network selection, that is permanent, because the original android network selection changes the network from time to time, especially on reboots.

Because I live near a border and data connection in real roaming networks is very expensive but i cant deactivate data roaming, because my discount home-network is also roaming in my country...

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Why are you testing any CDMA stuff!?! You're GSM, leave it in GSM mode...

H/HSPA would only apply if your country has it available - do you get it in WinMo? If not, then you won't get it in Android.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] kipi_zai:
i think GSM only = 2g, WCDMA = GSM HSDPA.

Its same from winmo
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
I guess I don't get it then... I only have CDMA, and we only have GSM or CDMA in this country to my knowledge. Perhaps I'm not understanding the terminology...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] emc02:
yes, i got HSDPA in WM and WCDMA is 3G in GSM
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] hovensy:
hi.. tested this update

keyboard ok (large letters)

wifi error (this is working on 311 system)

any changes made to wireless settings?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
No changes to wireless (that I'm aware of, at least...)

Wifi worked before? Does it work once on first boot or does it not work at all?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] danimihalca:
About the SoD (Screen of Death, if I'm understanding it right), on my TP it starts right after it goesin standby. For me, the keys are working and even the touchscreen is responding, the screen is on but without any light. I managed to unlock the phone with the SoD ( feeling the vibra) and I have that widget bar on the homescreen with the options to turn wifi, bt, gps and brightness on. When I clicked the brightness button, the SoD was gone and all went ok.

Hope this helps someone, and if the SoD is acting diferrently, please tell me how.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
I still think this is kernel related. Have you tried using THIS kernel and noticed anything different?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Sleep of Death.

And this means NOTHING will wake the device. No adb, no unlocking - frozen solid.

Yours just sounds like a panel collapse issue - perhaps WisTilt2's panel collapse code effects the RAPH as well. Figure out when it starts happening, in other words which kernel does not exhibit this behavior, and which is the first kernel that starts exhibiting the behavior? Then we can track down what commit is potentially breaking your device.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] danimihalca:
And that means that the phone becomes useless when you get a SoD? I've made a couple of restarts and now it don't have this kind of issue anymore (maybe because I set the brightness a bit higher).
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Yes, when we say SoD the phone is completely unusable, if you hit every button for 30 minutes, nothing happens. The phone is not able to charge, it does not get recognized when you plug it into adb/usb, can't call it, etc.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] daeinnor:
Very similar issue with mine, 'panel collapse' (thanks arrrghhh for the enlightment) the first instance it goes standby. I'm testing which kernel works before the issue showed up.

BTW, what variant is your TP? Raph100? Are you into data plan or are you connected to the net via 2G/3G or WiFi? I'm trying to find out if we have the same device since panel collapse happens to my raph100 either running Gingerbread or FRX06.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
It's funny, panel collapse is a good thing - assuming you can properly re-initialize the panel.

The main issue is, it is unknown how to do such a thing. WisTilt2 evidently tried to get the panel and chip type (I assume for the panel...) from stinebd, and they were not successful. So, WisTilt2 said he would write a patch so the panel collapse only effects the RHOD - which we have been able to reinit the panel on.

So, hopefully soon we'll see that patch and RAPH will be able to use the newer kernels again - if anyone does have docs on the RAPH that detail such information (need dev style docs that are usually under lock/key/NDA...) then perhaps WisTilt2 could write some code that would be able to reinit your panels. It would be nice, battery life would skyrocket!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] emc02:
since i tried latest gb system.ex2 from march 25 sometimes my mic doesn't work...

i try to find out in why and when this happens exactly...

is there any date when bt and gps will work on gb?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
At the moment and to my knowledge, there is no ETA on GPS and BT. If you require this, my suggestion is to stick with winmo, my friend :) Additionally, the FAQ does a pretty good job at mentioning this (this is posted in the first post)

Also, how do you know your mic doesn't work?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Yuuki_Minoru:
I have a Touch Pro (RAPH100) on 3G, running Gingerbread and I get the SoD quite a lot, I've never had a panel collapse.

if someone doesn't mind, could you explain what causes the SoD? is it just the system hanging when it tries to enter sleep mode?

is it possible to simply disable sleep mode altogether, and just turn off the screen, in that case? (obviously wouldn't save as much power, but it would at least wake back up)