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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] gallahad2000:
Anyone else having trouble using Google Maps-Navigation with FRX06? I've tried using a few times but about 20-30min into the trip the phone will boot back into WiMo. I think I remember reading about there being a problem with Navigation a long time ago but I haven't heard about it in a while and wondered if anyone knew of a solution.

I've been using Bing in the mean time but it's pretty painful to use. ***EDIT: Using Waze now, works like a dream!****

Oh and is anyone having success playing divx/avi/mpgs? I've tried Moboplayer and Rock player without any success. These are the only two things I have to switch back to WM for.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
I seldom use Navigate. It burns too much CPU, it made my G1 overheat the few times I tried it on a long drive. No idea why it would cause a reboot.

On a completely separate topic... I've been playing with video playback again. So far the only video codecs that work for me are the ones I copied off of my G1. Pretty sure these originated from a G1/ADP1 blob, but dunno which one. Anyway, since these codecs were written for the G1, they only support video up to 480x320 in resolution. So even though we have this nice WVGA screen, we can't play movies on it in its native rez.

The specs I've found for G1 say it can handle H.264 baseline profile at up to 500kbps. For streaming they recommend the total stream avg 600kbps, which also allows a 96kbps AAC audio track. So if you're encoding movies to watch on your phone, this should be your target profile.

Qualcomm claims the hardware can do 800x480 H.264. Too bad our codecs are hard coded to only support up to 480x320.

I think this also explains why Youtube HQ videos don't always work. If their rez is too high, no luck.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
Known issue, GPS is highly unstable in FRX06, and not working at all in GRX. Using it for more than 20-30 minutes at a time gives almost everyone a reboot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] gallahad2000:
What player are you using? I can't seem to get any videos to play no matter the res.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Christiaan91:
I use Copilot and i never had a problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Trailblazerman:
I had a heck of a time getting this to run until I read on another website (PPCGEEKS) that I needed to disable overclock in Windows Mobile before running Haret.

Now I've been running android for a while and really like my TP2 again. WinMo was getting on my nerves!

Might consider adding 'Turn Off Overclock in Windows Mobile before running Haret' to FAQ. Just a thought.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Did you bother reading the FAQ??

Not sure what else you want...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Trailblazerman:
I read it several times and missed that completely. I followed the 'format with HP tool' but somehow completely missed number 1.

Sorry about that arrrghhh. I really do appreciate you guys' work. The fact that I have a usable Android device on SERO is unbelievable to me. Thanks again!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] gmanfuzing:
since i can't multiquote for some reason ill just have to plain reply

yes im not new to this community, thank you for going back and looking and not just assuming.

yes arrghh does deal with tons of silly posts, but this is all by choice and after months of reading (and yes ive been following this from the birth of this thread) i have seen some things put in a not very kind manner. no i don't expect him to sugar coat things by any means but if you dont have anything nice to say, then dont say a thing at all.

the ONLY reason i asked for an eta was due to how many questions were replied with a simple " a new build will be released soon" so instead of actually fixing your problem im going to go with wait till the new stuff comes...... really ? and its not ok to ask how long im going to wait when you explicitly said there was one coming? you can honestly say you have no idea when it will be here but you just told me to wait ? Logically speaking if you knew something was coming you might have an idea of when. if you didn't then you wouldn't be answering questions with it right ?

if you can answer that yes IN ALL HONESTY that you have NO CLUE when the next build will ROUGHLY come out (LIKE DAYS WEEKS A MONTH...) then ill be quiet and go back to reading things and letting them sort out unless i feel inclined to help, OTHERWISE be nice.

also, don't get me wrong, you do a great service to this community along with all the devs. im grateful to have android. i just haven't ever said anything about what i have seen and ive been watching for far to long.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] fishingmedic:
I'm gonna go OT here for a second and stick up for Arrrghhh. I'll start by saying I don't know him at all other than the help he's done for many of us here and at PPCG. He keeps two threads going with the latest and greatest builds packaged up for us to use and not have to go running around trying to find stuff that works. He also maintains other testing threads not to mention offers tons of assistance anywhere possible. Does he offer some short retorts at times??? We all know the answer to that, but let's be honest, given the amount of time he's put into doing FAQ's that many don't bother to read, and answer many repeat questions from people who are too freaking lazy to even search before they post a question that's already been answered, all for nothing but donations, do you blame him??? I sure the hell don't. I've seen him answer questions that have already been asked 15 times and walk complete noobs through builds when they could have done it themselves if they had just taken the time to read rather than been spoon fed the info. Hell I'm personally clueless with a lot of this stuff and he's been willing to assist me to learn a little more, not by spoonfeeding me, but by pointing me in a general direction and then answering the additional questions that I have. And take a look around at some of the other high and mighty comments from others around here... compared to some, arrrghhh's comments seem mighty tame IMO. Not to mention with all of the testing that's been going on and fixes coming up lately, I think the majority of us know that a new build will be dropping soon, even without having someone tell us. I'm not looking to start a fight, just trying to put some of this stuff into the proper context.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
I usually try to respond nicely, but if it's the same question that has been asked 15,000 times, or is clearly in the FAQ, then yea, I might get a little nasty. Put on your big boy pants, this is the Internet (that's right, capital I :p).

At any rate, I have absolutely no clue when the next build is coming. As I previously stated, this is being done by individuals who are donating their free time to develop Android on our phones. They didn't have to release anything, but in the name of community - and probably to attract more devs, c'mon - they released it. Instead of asking for ETA's, thank them and say you're looking forward to the next build.

As for the generic "wait for the next build" responses, if you look at those comments of mine and put them in context, I usually link to the appropriate places to piece the stuff together your self. But for some things, it's not just so simple as bind mounting a new RIL - sometimes it's a lot more complex than that. I'll still try to point people in the right direction, but the flat-out truth is a lot of people should not be mucking with the system, and despite the painfully long wait, that is the best option for them. I'd rather people who can provide useful feedback, logs, etc use the testing stuff than just "everyone" - no offense, but a ton of "how do I do this" in the testing/dev threads is annoying, and basically a waste of time as feedback is dropped to NIL - it just turns into a support thread on how to implement the testing stuff, not a 'how can I make this testing stuff better' thread, which is what it is supposed to be from the beginning.

Sorry for the novel, but you struck a chord as I'm sure you were attempting to do. Now can we get back to FRX06 and looking forward to 07? Thanks ;).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
If anybody could give you an actual ETA they would. If that's not perfectly obvious to you by now, then you been haven't paying as careful attention as you claim.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Entropy512:
There is a possibility that the GPS 0,0 fix MIGHT improve things here. (Technically that's in FRX06 but rootfs overrides it at the moment). One of the problems with the pre-fix GPS driver was usage of uninitialized data. You weren't actually getting 0,0, you were getting two really small floating point numbers.

I haven't had a crash in Navigation for a while, but that may just be luck.

As to ETAs - if the guy asking had bothered to look through the IRC logs or the xdandroid-dev list archives, you'd see that there has been a spurt of heavy development lately. The good thing is - I'd expect to see a lot of major improvements in FRX07. The bad is - Some testing and stabilization needs to happen before a release can be made.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jonners59:
Be Nice

Hey guys, please be nice to all.... Everybody is doing what they can and everyone is trying to contribute and share and find things out and be a community and we all obviously believe in the same things here and so are on the same side. The developers quite clearly are beavering away and like a piece of string can't tell us how long it is... and we the Noddies at the end are trying to work this stuff out and get a little frustrated that some do not work properly, but we also try and be patient, and poor old (I am sure he's not) arrrgggh is piggie in the middle.

We just have to try and appreciate the ground each other is in. The developers and their piece of string, arrrgggh in the middle and the users running blind, like mushrooms, which is scary.

Part of the problem is that the Thread gets too big to follow, especially if you pop in or have items to report back and you do not go back in every day. There are over 100 pages! Maybe, if the system could have sub headings, maybe people could find and follow specific threads related to THIS build, maybe they would not keep repeating themselves. But I don't know if the technology supports sub threads? Food for thought.:confused:

For ALL. Please keep up the great work and may the force be with you.

PS: I had dropped out because I have bounced my phone - they don't bounce well, so am waiting my eBay replacement, upon which I shall wait until the very new build comes out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Tippfehler:
---Edited--- Sorry, already done.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
Doesn't matter what player app you use, they all use the system's codecs so they all run the same low-level code. The trick is getting a decent set of codecs, which in my case I've copied off my G1.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Entropy512:
In terms of thread length - yeah once FRX07 comes out we should unsticky this one and sticky the new one. Megathreads (like the EnergyROM threads, a single thread covering the entire history of the ROM) make things difficult.

A new release should always have a new thread IMO.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] gallahad2000:
Anyway to post those?(and some instruction as to where to put them) My only other android device is a Nook Color and it's much higher resolution.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] matt205:
I'm having real trouble with this sleep issue. I thought I'd describe my symptoms and make sure it's just not me.

9 times out of 10 I cannot answer an inbound call, no matter what buttons I press the phone just keeps ringing and the screen stays blank. Occasionaly after the caller has given up I can then wake it up and see who called.

The phone randomly just goes to sleep and the only way to wake it is to reboot to windows and then boot Android.

Is this normal behaviour? Unfortunately in this state the phone is pretty useless.

Just need to ascertain if it's my handset or common behaviour.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
I would not describe that as normal.

RHOD110 I assume...? Which startup.txt did you use? Have you changed anything from the bundle that is in the first post?

Have you tried different kernels? WisTilt2's test kernel works pretty well, hoping to get that code committed soon.

Also, I've heard AUO panel folk have issues with the new cam kernel. Have you tried older kernels? What sleep_mode are you on?

Sounds dumb, but was there anything running in the background? Multitasking Android is good at, but this phone... is not so good at multitasking!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] atomiq:
the youtube app is not working as high quality as tiad8's

and it takes soo long for the first boot xD

update: downloading skype and a little bit anxious to see if it logs in :O
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] matt205:
Yes, 110. I have the 210 startup modified with 110 kb entry.

Using 1276, actually did a complete re-format (hp tool) and re-install still same. Only thing running is e-mail (exchange).

Battery life is great, general OS speed and response is fantastic, but the sleep thing is a killer.

Where do i set the sleep_mode?

Thanks for the ongoing work!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] akhan360:
Hey, I'm not too sure if this is frx05 related or if it is kernel related, but I have a few issues I thought I might mention (I'm using ATT branded tilt 2 - i think its a world phone)

- 'Sometimes' when I try to make calls, it just ends the call right away. Signal strength is good, but it says Call Ended as soon as I press the Send button.

- Videos don't work, usually gets stuck on the first frame, but continues to play audio.

- Camera works, but I can't take pictures. It says I need to insert an SD card.

Using F22's rootfs, wistilts kernel 1276, and frx05. Radio and energy rom is updated.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] dswaggz:
Hey has any1 tried miui weather apk I would but my tp2 is broke next week I hope 2 have it fixed

sent frm my g1 wishin my tp2 was fixed
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
HQ videos don't work. SD works fine - if you're talking about youtube. There's a certain resolution that it starts choking on, no clue where that choke point is.

Says you need to insert an SD card... format your SD using the HP tool. Full format, FAT32. You can backup all your data, format, and put the data back on the card. If you wish, you can start over fresh.

No clue on the call issue, although I have had that happen before. Haven't been able to reproduce it, can't really say much about it other than it's been very rare for me. Need logs to resolve it.

Why don't you use the 100 startup? I would think that would be more like your phone...

sleep_mode is in the startup.txt...

Uhm, HQ video doesn't work in YouTube.

Sorry it takes so long?

Don't really care about skype, that's a third party app.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Timmy87:
I've currently got a RHOD100 and I've been trying to get the FRX05 working. I'm not too sure whats going on but yesterday my 8GB mircro SD card blew up using the FRX04 then I got another 1GB micro SD card and installed the new FRX05.

Everything is great and everything is smooth and wonderful - just one problem - I have no sound??? I have re-installed FRX05 half a dozen times using all types of combo's. I used the previous 20100222, 20100221 and the latest kernels as well. Each time I did a fresh format of the micro SD card.

When I install android I go check the SD card in the settings and it shows there is no SD card just like the above poster said with the camera. It seems like when I install android it doesn't pick up or recognize the SD card.

I'm just about ready to throw my phone against the wall - any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Many thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Need to format using a good format utility - not the built in WinMo or Windows.

I recommend the HP Tool. Full format, FAT32. You can backup all your data and put it back on, or start fresh, your choice.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Timmy87:
Thanks mate! That worked a charm!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Quincux:
I have a Tilt 2 and FRX05 works nice!.

- If you can't make a call, try calling to voice mail.

-I had the SD issue. Format your SD card with HP format Tool or Panasonic SD Format Tool (i use that)

- Video works for me. Try download other video player from Market

- Camera works great for me (picture and video). SD Card issue is solved formating.

My WM ROM is a Energy ROM 28/02/2011 28244 GTX, RADIO 4.49.25.95
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] akhan360:
Not youtube videos, but mpegs that are stored from file. It happened to me in FRx04, even with different players from the market. I haven't tried using a different player now, but I'll give that a shot again. Thanks for the tip on the sd card, much appreciated. And the call ending issue, doesn't happen often, happened twice since I started using frx05 (about 10 days). The only other problem is the sod and freeze with panel light on. But that too is rare. Thanks for the quick reply guys, and thanks for all your work arrrghhh!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Same applies to all videos - there's an issue with vids above a certain resolution.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] dswaggz:
@arrrghhh hey is the nand version working on the 210 bkuz I was over ppcgeeks an wanted 2 know

sent frm my g1 wishin my tp2 was fixed
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Considering I have a 400, and this thread has nothing to do whatsoever with NAND...?

I have no 210 to test with, so I don't know. Please don't ask about NAND in my build thread, this is really OT and not helpful to anyone.

Try it for yourself, and try posting in the correct thread. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mattdealin:
what am i doin wrong

got it booted after i reset it during the first boot cuzz it was taking more than an hour....it seems to only boot after i touch the screen during the boot up....now once i have it booted everthing looks great but the touch screen is almost nonresponsive ...i use my keyboard to navigate and evrything seems pretty fast but my ts dosent work.....help ...want am i doin wrong
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Please follow the steps in the first post. Sounds like you skipped the calibration step ;). (*Step #4)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] gmanfuzing:
the spare parts from the market allows you to map the end button to home but it doesn't do it the same way. you have to push the end button 4 or 5 times for it to register and even then sometimes it doesn't work. i've deleted my data.img for other reasons and installed it on a fresh start and it still acts the same.

i didn't even use FRX04, i was in tiad land on one of his builds that started nice then progressively bugged itself up so i switched to arrrghhh

and im still having some issues with sleep, sometimes it goes into deep sleep other times it doesn't. i don't have any task managers installed and i've pretty much just been txting recently so no apps that might force the system to stay awake.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] berrywr:
Thank You! Nicely done!

I wanted to take a moment to express my gratitude and thanks for those of you who have contributed to this one particular thread and making it easy for me to follow and make edits to my settings particularly the startup text. There remains annoying things about Android I don't like but that has nothing to do with the work put into the OS and making it work on our devices. There is a lot of terminology I have to learn and I have this particular "flavor" of Android on both my Touch Pro 2s. I haven't tested everything however, Wi-Fi without WEP/WPA works; the little tip about changing "cdma=1" to "cdma=0" got my Mobile Settings and Network up and running. I like Windows Mobile; however, it is becoming increasing harder to find the apps I use without constantly performing maintenance and when I'm away from home that task becomes impossible; I want my device to work particularly when I'm on the road. I do not have the technical expertise many of you have but in the days and weeks ahead I will do my best to get to know all of this. It's one thing to flash a device; another to understand what is happening when problems arise and make edits. Again thanks, it is appreciated!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] husam666:
I'm having a problem with contacts.

I can't see them when I import them or add a new one, but when I receive a call the name is shown normally.

quick search was useless (or I don't know how to use it :p)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Hrm, I guess I was of the idea that I should just keep updating the first post...

I guess I could create a new thread with 07.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Avatar28:
I would rather see a new thread too. Update the first post on this one with a note that 07 is out and give a link to it then leave this one to slowly die.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] AkumaX:
you should probably do it, if 07 is going to have some significant changes
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Alrighty, I agree. There are going to be a lot of changes... New thread then, whenever it does drop - don't hold your breath :p.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Ltilt2:
So, when are you posting the new FRX07???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Entropy512:
I really hope you're joking... *tries valiantly to avoid pulling out the flamethrower*

If you had bothered to read any of the posts in the past 2-3 pages of the thread, you'd see that the devs are in the process of a major cleanup/test/merge effort of the various independent test efforts that have been going on the past month. Some things have proven to be broken, so they're not ready yet. It's coming soon because things are close but no date can be given.

Someone at Google said, "Software is like cooking - you can't rush it". FRX07 will get released when it's ready. If you really want to see its current state, sync the repos (and highlandsun's personal git repos) and play with them. Basically all parts of what should become FRX07 are available, they're just not in a shiny integrated build and have some cleanup to do.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Ltilt2:
bring out the flamethrower, as I'm a firefighter and have no problems bring out my big waterhose.

I read the last page of this thread and this is why I asked. Plus, I was hoping to get a guesstimate from Arrgh..

I'm also runnning lates RIL + ROOTS, so all is good..

was hoping to get a guesstimate from Arghh, that's all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] AkumaX:
:D:D:D:D:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
If you had read my posts, you would know my answer already. Please, quit asking.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mior111:
Everything else ok, but no sound

Everything working as it should, but i hear no sound, people calling on other end cannot hear me, i cannot hear them, no application sound.

Rhod100

Hard reset done.

Where did i do wrong?

Another question - how do i uninstall? can i just remove installation file from memory card? If i have genY dualboot - should i uninstall dualboot first?

TQ
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Christiaan91:
In what mode do you have your phone? (silent, vibrate or loud)

To "temporary" solve the problem, put, after anwsering, the phone in speakermode and then back to normal. You'll probably hear the sound now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mior111:
Hard reset (remove battery) and reboot. Now its working perfectly !! Great work guys ... look forward for bluetooth function.