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[HTC Desire S] pina_:
That's not the right way, since many people wanting a dual core phone now, are early adopters. If the Desire S would have dual core, then you still need to wait until, let's say at least 6 months before they can use it. 6 months is a really loooong time in tech terms. When Android finally officially supports dual core, HTC would relase another nw device with even better specs. So the eary adopters who bought the dual core before anyone else, would want to buy the new device AGAIN, so they wasted a lot of money with the first dual core device without having to benifit from the dual core.
[HTC Desire S] ccdarkness:
that was the problem for me but i'm now on starburst ROM and it handles app2sd perfectly so it's not a problem anymore :D
[HTC Desire S] ccdarkness:
and if you buy DESIRE S now and in 6months they make another DESIRE with dual core, what then?? isn't that same story? you will need to by the new one with dual core and throw away DESIRE S wich will be really useless at that point ;)

i think they just wanted to present something on WMC'11 and with nothing better they pimped out wildfire and named it DESIRE S
[HTC Desire S] bobbysixkiller:
shame on you HTC .... i have been a loyal fan and just wanted and hoped for a duel core... weather we need it or not!

if your rivals are making them then you need to!

boooooooo

2010 was about GalaxyS v Desire...

2011 GalaxyS2 v Desire with makeup on!!

Booooooooooo!
[HTC Desire S] Terepin:
What makes you think Desire S is competitor for Galaxy S II?
[HTC Desire S] ccdarkness:
it's really not!
[HTC Desire S] Terepin:
And it was never intended to be. So where is problem? Desire S is "just" evolution of original Desire. If you want competitor for Galaxy S II then wait for Desire HD2.
[HTC Desire S] Lothaen:
If you don't currently have a smartphone - and depending on price - it might be a good investment..
[HTC Desire S] EddyOS:
In which case the DHD would be my choice - seems the Incredible S is just a pointless range filler

Hope the DHD2 does show up but I doubt it
[HTC Desire S] losdrivare:
I hope the Desire S is launched soon. It's only an incremental upgrade (at best) from my Desire so I really won't buy it, BUT hardware is pretty much identical and it will launch with Android 2.4. This means the launch will give our beloved XDA cooks something to work with. :) Would love 2.4 fully working with drivers on my original Desire!

Apart from that, I'm bummed out about the lack of dual core, as well as the move from physical buttons to capacitive. I don't like capacitive buttons, keep clicking them by accident. Sure, they look better but they're just not practical.
[HTC Desire S] ccdarkness:
whats the point of evolution by 1 when everyone else is evolving by 10? it's dual-core, gpu-powered phones time!

my point is that original Desire was the best when came out, it has the right size (you don't need backpack to carry it around like you need for SG-S, DHD), plently of power, beautiful design... new desire has the right size but it's toy in terms of power comparing to LG-O2X, SGS2, MOTOROLA ATRIX..and if you want something powerfull with big screen than there is plently of tablets to choose from (even here HTC seems to fall back, no dual-core on Flyer)

as i said before .. they did facelift on Desire but this is not what everybody was waiting for!
[HTC Desire S] d3sm0nd:
Well.. I'm really disappointed. I mean REALLY. When you compare the hardware it's almost nothing new.

HTC Desire S vs HTC Desire

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3077

I'm a HTC fan since many years and it's hard for me to say this, but HTC is really behind now and is only trying to make money and sell us BULL****!!!

Just see the comparison and you will know what I'm talking about... minor changes. NOT EVEN THE PROCESSOR HAS CHANGED!!!

The Incredible S is also nothing new under the sun. Not even a dual-core processor... No 1GB of ram.

Seriously, HTC, WHAT THE ****?

The hardware specs of Galaxy S II can eat HTC's newest devices for breakfast.

And HTC really made a big mistake because right now it's no more about the software, it's the hardware that matters. Android is almost the same on all devices and with a community like XDA everything (costumization) is possible.

RIP HTC, I will never buy a device from you anymore.
[HTC Desire S] ccdarkness:
yes.. that what i was saying!!! that 1.2GHz speed can be easily done with setCPU app & some rooting (and i think 90% if not more of XDA forums members have rooted phones). internal memory - just use app2sd and you're there..

SHAME ON YOU HTC. YOU WENT FROM INNOVATION TO MONEYCOUNTING!!!:mad:

let's not be so dramatic :D hope they make something better
[HTC Desire S] Kinma:
If you want dual core, better wait for the HTC Desire HD2:

http://www.gsmarena.com/leaked_slides_show_htc_desire_hd2_desire_2_and_wildfire_2-news-2313.php

The HTC Desire HD2 probably has a 4.3 inch screen, but also a higher resolution.

For me, 4.3 inch might be too much. However, the bigger resolution might make me buy it anyway.

A year ago the HTC Desire was the best phone one could buy.

A dual core chip will initially be put inside the next generation high-end phone.

The new Desire S looks like a new mid-range phone. So it's best to wait if you need to have the next high-end phone.
[HTC Desire S] EddyOS:
A LOT of people are calling that a fake due to some information being incorrect (512MB RAM when the Desire has 576MB?? Can't be right), will be nice if true though
[HTC Desire S] ccdarkness:
well if you make best phone last year ... why you make it middle-range phone this year?

DHD 1 or 2 is just too big! thats the point with Desire .. it was powerfull & good looking!

we'll see
[HTC Desire S] Terepin:
Bye, we wont miss you.
[HTC Desire S] EddyOS:
I had an HD2 and it's not too big, just not as easy to handle as the Desire! I do have big hands, though

EDIT: Just a thought - could be the HD2 is the Incredible S
[HTC Desire S] Lothaen:
that was the impression i got first off... also they'll probably call it the DHDS if going by what the others are named...
[HTC Desire S] g3droid:
i want to get rid of my htc magic but now i'm not sure if it should be the desire S at this point i think the desire for far less money will do best for me?

what's your opinion on that ?

i really don't think that those 256 MB RAM will speed up things in the future with dual-core support coming up in the next releases of android.
[HTC Desire S] Phantom Pt. II:
So can we expect a ROM from this Desire S for the original Desire? :)
[HTC Desire S] EddyOS:
Possibly, apparently HTC said the Desire will get 2.3 later on this year
[HTC Desire S] snapilica2003:
Really? Do you have a link for that? I was 100% sure that the Desire is abandonware.
[HTC Desire S] EddyOS:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/htc...t-for-android-23-gingerbread-update-50002752/
[HTC Desire S] rouvax:
fortune teller told me that there will be 2 desire this year...
[HTC Desire S] mortuus82:
wow im so happy with my regular desire and amoled screen, its sad that a year after we go from amoled super to crappy s-lcds.. and it doesnt offer much what desire dont give really.
[HTC Desire S] dhiral.v:
I think people are bashing HTC way too much with this new lineup. I mean sure a dual core would have been nice but gingerbread doesn't fully support multi core processing yet, they have improved the processor, it uses the upgraded snapdragon now.

I can't personally think of a better manufacturer right now then HTC, best handsets for development. The galaxy S2 looks promising with great hardware but maybe let down by software just like the original galaxy. LG and moto bad software as well with there locked bootloaders.
[HTC Desire S] Malik828:
Really HTC deserves all this bashing as when all competitors going for dual core but my only concern with dual core is battery life if HTC better with battery management than samsung or motorola then no other than HTC award winner of 2011
[HTC Desire S] cybermessiah:
I think people here need to do their homework before bashing this HTC line for not having dual-core.:(

The matter of the fact is that HTC are maintaining their exclusive contract with Qualacom... who arent going to be releasing a dual-core 1.2 GHz Snapdragon (MSM8x60) reportably until sometime around Q2 2011 and a 1.5 GHz dual-core Snapdragon (QSD8672) scheduled for Q42011.

So its logical that HTC arent going to be releasing any dual core devices until after that time.

The Desire S which is going into availability supposedly Q2 just couldn't have possibly been dual core in accordance to the HTC/Qualacom agreement.

I guess HTC are going to feel the waters with the competing new Tegra dual core devices and wait for Qualacom to surpass Nvidias dual-core performances.

My guess is that we wont see any dual-core HTC handsets until at least 3Q this year..... but we will get them eventually... and I'm damn sure they will be great.:)
[HTC Desire S] -MojaV-:
I think this looks like a great phone. Its like a mini Desire HD with a sharper screen, better battery and all in a much smaller package.
[HTC Desire S] msnxda:
I agree. My next phone will be a desire s. The best phone made even better. For me its about design and build quality, not processing power. A phone is not a mainframe.
[HTC Desire S] dr.m0x:
I already have a Desire HD but I may pick up one of these if the price is right. It should be the same price as Desire HD or even a little cheaper but sometimes devices are over valued at release.

Personally I don't use the camera a great deal and feel that dropping from 8 to 5 mp is a fair deal in return for better battery.

If I'd known this was coming I would have stayed on my Desire and skipped the HD. I guess htc aim to suck in obsessive compulsive tech junkies like me with these kind of marketing tactics though.

I'm not happy to see you, it's a Desire HD in my pocket.
[HTC Desire S] dr.m0x:
Why not be last to market with a dual core phone and release the best one?

There is a market for the Desire S, just because it's of little interest to tech junkies it's not pointless. We are probably a minority amongst users anyway.
[HTC Desire S] GHOST99K:
lol Nexus One revamped? HTC brought out all 2010 spec devices in 2011 MWC.first dual core by HTC i guess its the HTC "Pyramid" coming on june i believe.

EDIT:Desire S looks nice but horrible old specs.
[HTC Desire S] arknailed7754:
I love my desire but the new desire s doesnt take it much further as for gingerbread its debateable how much its really worth.regardless htc r rolling,i love sense intergration thats the pull id say,any phone of same spec can do android its how you use it my wifes got the galaxy all that needrd was sense lol nice phone mind,samsung did well threre
[HTC Desire S] njd:
The Incredible S seems to be targeted at a sweet spot: screen not too big, battery not too small (which are the main complaints about the DHD). It's very similar to the Galaxy S/Captivate/Vibrant, and those phones are selling well for Samsung.

So there definitely is a point to it - it's a me-too rival to the Galaxy S. I'm sure the marketing folk at HTC feel that it's bang on target.

Trouble is, it's about six months too late, and is about to be lapped by the SGS2.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Well sure it isnt dual core, but still it is a significant upgrade over the old desire...

faster, nicer design, more memory, battery life better.

Also i read a article somewhere and it says that dual cores are pretty pointless. WHy? You cant make a os any faster than it is. Also most phones are single core. MOst apps wont take advantage of the dual core cpus until 2012. Im hoping to either get this of DHD by summer.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Yes true, but have you seen the freakin' price of this new SGSII?!! £620! The incredible is only £450.

What do you recommend me... DHD or Incredible? I'm not to worried about the size. My TG01 is still bigger than the DHD :L
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Exactly my point. Also the first gen psp which wont be outdated soon. Many ppl will still have it is still briliant for gaming. I don't know if i should get this or a DHD... Help?
[HTC Desire S] edefux:
i´m buying the desire s ... for me good manufacturing is worth more than pure specs. i´m not worried about the speed of the phone but a little about the battery life ... wonder how that can improve so muche 1400mh to 1450 ... not that big of a jump ?!
[HTC Desire S] njd:
Well, the pathetically small battery capacity would really put me off getting a DHD, and it gives an advantage to the Incredible S; otherwise there's not much between them.

I think the next 4.3" HTC phone will be the dual-core one that everybody's waiting for, but who knows when that will arrive?
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Yes that will be something to look forward to but it will be quite expensive. I havent really tried out the dual cores yet, i would like to see them in person. Based on some reviews, the dual cores arent as inpressive as they sound out to be. They say the OS is already as fast as it can be. Hopefully the DHD will become cheaper by summer.
[HTC Desire S] HRQPK:
it's good for a simple refresh, i dont think it's targeted at ppl with desires already.. But generally, their new product line is a little bland :/
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Totally agree with you. I cant see any existing deisre users upgrading to this unless they have money to burn and simply love the phone too much. Myself, i wouldnt mine having one of these as i dont own a primary android phone
[HTC Desire S] scytheavatar:
The Desire is already near perfect and I fail to see the benefits of a dual core when even with stock software the Desire is already snappy and ultra responsive. The only flaw the Desire had is its battery life, and until everyone starts rebelling against the ultra-thin mobile phone movement there's a limit to what HTC can put as a battery.
[HTC Desire S] Ccming:
no camera key, difficult to self photograph
[HTC Desire S] da_hool:
Likes:

1) I agree with the OP that the 3.7" screen size is nice. 4.0"+ screens makes a phone a bit too clunky IMO.

2) Matte black colour is very nice. I didn't care much for the original HTC Desire urban brown colour. Nor do I care much for cheap feeling, glossy black, plasticy phones that are rampant on the market these days. Which leads me to my next like...

3) ...Aluminium unibody design!

I'm hoping Rogers Wireless or another carrier picks this up so I can retire my HTC Legend.
[HTC Desire S] Paschalis:
What smartphone i should buy???? Opinions...

Hmm.. i was thinking of buying Desire S, and i changed my opinion till i read this thread.

Firstly i though 1 ghz was really good(and it is for 2010!!),

but best is ofcourse the dual!

I dont want facebook blabla, and facebook ****ty buttons on my device!!

The phones i buyed so far, were a BIG failure..

before some years i bought nokia 6600, more than 600 euros.

before 3 years, HTC Touch HD more than 600 euros.

This time, i want to buy really something good..

And i think about LG..

if LG made a very good smartphone, whats the problem with that?

Does LG not provide good services after buying LG optimus 2x?

e.g like they dont give updates for 2.4 or more..?

Also the price of LG, is much lower than GS2..

GS2 is about 830 euros, and LG is about 550 euros..

Less than Desire S probably..

I NEED HELP!!! please, help me!!! :):eek: :confused::confused::confused:

Any advantages disadvantages of theses phones?

Something it bothers me its, the DS has 700+ RAM,

and LG has 512 RAM with dual-core.. Is this too bad?

Disadvantages for me are also not good battery, very big size..

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EDIT:

Yes, for now, the os cant be faster.. because its not supported, as many of you said, from Android..

But the apps, can take advantage of the dual core,

when that is supported from the OS.

Developers dont have to rewrite them, for multicore..

The reason is that the apps(serious/big apps..) are multithreading!

If someone wrote a multithreading app, it will run in all devices..

It's not his job to seperate the threads to the cores.. Its OS job..

The multicore will be faster of course .
[HTC Desire S] Brumble:
Dont know what you guys are complaining about??

First the desire s has the second generation of the snapdragon processor, which can be o/c'd up to 1.6ghz!! Which reaches around 2800-2900 for all you quadrant users.

Also has the Andreno 205 gpu which is the same on the sony ericsson play is using which is knowen to be the playstation phone so your not going to have a problem with gaming.

Your also gettin an extra 256mb of ram which is great, the phone has more ram to manage with without getting sluggish which I found happened on my desire.

Another plus is more internal storage so no need for A2SD or changing partition tables.

It aslo has a nice sturdy one piece aluminium body which is re-assuring if it happens to slip from your grip.

Last but not least, if the desire s has a development community like the desire, the possibilities are endless.

Android doesnt have true dual core support, and by the time it does (6months at minimum!) The current dual core phones are going to be out dated very quickly.

IMO Htc are building phones for our needs and Android needs, and neither need dual core for the moment.

Sent from my thumbs.
[HTC Desire S] pik.:
I agree with you 100%...

best device for me ...elegant small with aluminum and HTC...;)
[HTC Desire S] PseudoReal:
I am having a Desire myself and I think it is a great phone. However, the lack of internal memory sucks.

I tried those DHD ROMs with A2SD+ and I found them very snappy. Unfortunately, there seems to be some issue with my SD Card, so my phone does not wake up any longer and I have to pull the battery.

Therefore I am also looking for a new phone. I had in my circle the following: Nexus S, SGSII, IS, DS and LGOS (2x)

The Nexus S is not any longer to be considered as I just tried CM7 on my Desire and I really miss the Dialer (T9 Dial) and the facebook contact picture sync from HTC Sense. The original facebook app just gets me blurry pictures.

SGSII is just too big!

LGOS might be good, but it seems it still has some serious bugs (random reboots, wont wakeup, etc). Not sure about the Dialer and FB sync though.

IS: seems ok, but I didnt like the backcover.

DS: the ideal phone :)

What might be really interesting is the SGS2 mini, which should have a similar form factor to Desire S!
[HTC Desire S] FreeWolF80:
For me:

Desire have an amoled screen > desire s have a super lcd screen.

Desire can be rooted > desire s no.

I don't care about the root for now, but the screen is better in the desire.

For everything else the desire s win.
[HTC Desire S] njd:
Mostly I agree with you: the Desire S appears to fix most of the complaints about the Desire; but the Desire was switched to SLCD screens about six months ago, so anyone buying one now will probably not get an AMOLED screen.

I slightly regret the loss of the optical trackball, and the signed bootloader on the newer phones (Desire S, Incredible S) worries me a little, but I have every hope that it will eventually be rooted, and the benefits of the Desire S outweigh the disadvantages.

I worry more (perhaps unnecessarily) about the old Desire's overheating issues with that 65nm chipset.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
does the desire s have a better multi touch screen now and not the crappy dual-way touch like the deisre and nexus one?
[HTC Desire S] tychodebrahe:
Yes it does. Mine recognizes four independent touches. Still not enough for playing the piano, but fine for everything else. Who the heck wants to play the piano on it, right? :D
[HTC Desire S] titus1:
I think that DesireS is still is a great update to ol' Desire. I've already sold my Desire and thinking getting a new Andy phone. These dual-core devices surely will going to be very expensive. And eveyday usage of phone doesn't really require you to be on dual-core.

I mean...come on, does making a call now requires you to have it on multicore phone? Sending emails, text messages? It is how these manufacturer maximizes the power of the device even if it only runs on single core.

Im torn between Desire S and Xperia Neo.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
what exactly were the complaints with the original desire?
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Samsung Galaxy S i9003 ;)
[HTC Desire S] titus1:
Had enough with Samsung:rolleyes:
[HTC Desire S] njd:
Isn't the i9003 the one with an SLCD screen instead of AMOLED?

That removes the one advantage the Galaxy S really has over the Desire S.
[HTC Desire S] njd:
Internal storage http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1018830

Battery life http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-666369.html

Overheating and random reboots.
[HTC Desire S] njd:
Neo has less RAM: 380MB versus 768MB on the Desire S.

And less internal storage: 320MB versus 1.1GB on Desire S.

The Desire S has built-in maps; the Neo has more emphasis on the camera: 8MP and supposedly a better sensor.

I'm a little negative about SE thanks to their approach to software updates; I loved the K750 and K810 but managed to brick both of them using Sony Ericsson's Update Service; and the whole Froyo on Xperia debacle put me right off. Didn't it take them nearly a year just to get the Xperias onto Eclair?
[HTC Desire S] Komatoes:
I agree and will be very unlikely to buy a SE phone again. My next phone will probably be an HTC, or maybe a Samsung.
[HTC Desire S] titus1:
Review from techradar...

"The HTC Desire S has a death grip problem, similar to the iPhone 4's much-publicised problems. In this case, it's not mobile signal that's affected, but Wi-Fi. The antenna appears to be mounted behind the plastic panel that houses the camera, and it's extremely vulnerable.

If you hold the phone in a normal landscape typing position your fingers will cover that spot, and the Wi-Fi signal will drop. If you place the phone on your body – such as resting it on your leg – facing up, the Wi-Fi signal will drop.

How bad is the drop? If you're right near the router, it's unlikely you'd make the signal totally disappear in casual use, but we did manage to reduce some connections from the full four bars to none just by placing a palm against the plastic area.

In more realistic use, a medium to low signal is likely to drop to zero within a few seconds of you covering the spot.

Even placing the phone down on certain surfaces can affect things – we put the Desire S down on a magazine and saw the signal drop a bar on very strong networks. Picking it up less than an inch restored it. That small difference was enough to see some weaker other networks disappear when scanning."
[HTC Desire S] wesjdj:
Amen. I'm pretty dure the Tegra 2 dualcore phones have some kind of Tegra App to help them use the apps in both cores (?!?), Atleast that's what I've heard
[HTC Desire S] domazdk:
Ye if you like to play games on your phone.

Had the LG o2x for 1 week then i gave it back and got this phone.

I really cant feel any difference in the interface or browsing.
[HTC Desire S] nicksti:
Desire S

+ Lighter & More Compact

+ More Internal RAM

+ More Internal ROM

+ Better CPU

+ WiFi N

+ Improved Battery

+ Stock Gingerbread

+ Sense UI 3.0. Edit: Sense 2.1 not 3.0

Desire

+ AMOLED version

+ Optical Trackball

+ Physical Buttons

+ As of now more moddable

+ Colour options

+ Costs less

It is difficult to say if the Desire S is enough of an upgrade to justify replacing your Desire with it. Value for money the Desire beats the S because the S is newer and more expensive on the unlocked market. And I would not extend a contract just to replace the original Desire with the S.
[HTC Desire S] kartikk:
i thought the original Desire also had issues like axis-swapping(multi touch) & over heating issues which were fixed in the Desire S
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I've got a Desire S and it's got HTC Sense version of 2.1 not 3.0?!

So far I'm loving the phone, although for me its taking a while to get used to as I'm coming from WM 6.5 and a HTC Diamond 2.

Obviously hoping for ability to use custom ROMS and root, as always ran Customs on Diamond2 and saw how much smoother it got!