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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] 716Rob:
Ok will check that out. thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] avinashreddy1:
Same problem with me too, reboots back into windows and always stays in the airplane mode and does not connect to sprint network...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
This build is unfortunately outdated. I would stick with FroYo until there's a new release...

I'm seriously considering doing a thread with a test build of what is being worked on in GB. The only problem is there's a lot of new stuff, things break and it's a little tricky to setup.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] JDog2pt0:
Well, other than a slew of "Why doesn't this work, or how do I do this and stuff like that, what's the worst that could happen?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Mainly that :p.

Even if I clearly document things that are broken, workarounds, etc - if it doesn't work out of box, people will endlessly post questions as to why this is broken or that doesn't work or... yea. It's usually just a waste of time to post something that's not complete/ready/buggy/etc. We do our best to release polished work. As polished as we can get it at least lol ;).

Edit - Oh, and the tricky setup involves grabbing some CSV files off of WinMo and copying them to the SD card. Still gotta figure out how to implement them into the build, so all phones'll work. I think we found there's different sets for different RHOD's.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] JDog2pt0:
Well if the file just needs to be pulled to the SD card, why can't a modified haret or script do it? Obviously I'm looking at this in the simplest way possible; as in the file just needs to be pulled to the SD card and there it will be used. Not entirely sure what you mean by implemented into the build.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Don't worry about it, lol. I probably have said too much already... :p.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] JDog2pt0:
Yeah, I kinda figured there was more to it than that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Maine_Coon:
I really want the stable GB release.

My most important apps don't work on Froyo.

This is the one of my New Year wishes :D

Happy Holidays!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] detule:
IMO, a stable GB image may already be here. At least for rhodium users, xdandroid 2.3.7 is as stable as froyo (more or less, depending on the features one uses).

In addition rhodium users have a palette of fresh kernels to use with it, ranging from 2.6.35 to 3.1.6

The development team (which I am not a part of) is taking the time to make sure the image is functional on all supported devices, but if going into the new year things are at the current status quo, perhaps rhodium users can benefit from an unofficial testing preview.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Maine_Coon:
Link please?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] detule:
If you are eager

http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Getting_the_Source

Otherwise, if there is enough interest perhaps powers that be can start a preview thread and make an image available.

As a last resort, pm me after the holidays.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Maine_Coon:
That please ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] vnes1984:
+1 on preview thread. LOVE GB!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] fortunz:
I don't want to hassle devs or delay progress on development, but you can consider me very interested in a rhodium preview thread.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Skidiver:
Hi,

I just installed android and verything was fine...I turned the phone off...turned it back on and windows OS appears...how can I keep android as my default?...Thanks in advance!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] A cool username:


Check the NAND topic, everything you need to know is there... :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
This is installed on the SD card... so WinMo is still present on internal memory.

As was stated, you can flash it - but be warned, this is much more dangerous than running it off of the SD. It seems to work pretty well (I've used it for a while, but always jump back to help test on HaRET) but like I said you can mess up your phone permanently by flashing it incorrectly. You can't do that with the SD card install... Nothing is being flashed ;).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] vo_danh:
Sorry to be a noob but.... WHAT AND WHERE is the file manager..... I need to browse and edit files on my sd card while in GB...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] CodaHighland:
Welcome to Android, take your pick. Go search the Market; there are several suitable apps out there. GBX0B ships with one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] muziling:
I use 1253 kernel , I have try FRX04, all system.ext2 version, finally found, except tiad8 version, all the version can not work at my rhod400.

for example this, when boot into android, no unlock screen let screen light down, then can not wake screen up,althought switch to another kernel. If i unlock screen when boot into android immediately, then can do some operation, example, LED Effect.apk, click "test" button some times, system auto reboot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
What does this have to do with this Gingerbread build...? It's probably your SD card, or something you're doing. If you want we can try to help you, but it doesn't sound like you've read the first post or even tried this build based on your post above...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] dswaggz:
Hey since 2.3 has front camera supp will we an can I get the verizon tp2 screen as a replacement 4 tmo tp2

sent from Simple~Mobile G1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
First, the RHOD500 most certainly does not have a front facing cam.

AFAIK the RHOD100 is the only one that does - specifically the 'unbranded' HTC devices.

Even if you could get a RHOD100 panel, I'm not sure a) you would want to and b) it would net you a front-facing camera... how would it connect into the device? You'd be better off just buying a RHOD100 and calling it a day. Have fun trying to find one.

Not sure if we will support the front cam, especially considering the small cross-section of RHODs that have it. It's probably doable, assuming the sensor isn't drastically different from the rear one. We don't even have the rear camera supported so... yea. Kinda putting the cart before the horse eh?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] pdawg17:
Just for troubleshooting purposes:

Anyone else finding that the phone does not go into deep sleep (green light) as much with Gingerbread? I'll try installing a program to see what is staying open but I did not have this problem with FRX04...

I know this is in "alpha" stage - again I am just trying to figure out if it is a problem on my end or not...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] bahairus:
I have found that gingerbread is slower to go into sleep compared to Frx04, but it generally seems to go into sleep eventually. I haven't seen it hang too much and this is with loading a fair number of apps that sync in the background (aside from Gmail, which isn't working properly - per the first entry on this thread).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] bahairus:
Has anyone tried the keyboard fix and had it work? I tried it but didn't see any difference.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] webxplore:
I downloaded gingerbread keyboard from the market and works fine for me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] bahairus:
Got it off the market. That worked. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Thanks for the feedback guys, I'll adjust my recommendation!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] bahairus:
Is it just me or does this build (gingerbread) keep the time better? I have been running it on my tilt2 all day and haven't seen any time lag.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] pdawg17:
Anyone else notice increased data loss? With Gingerbread I am having to turn airplane mode on/off a lot more...and sometimes that does not work and I have to reboot...

Just seeing if it is something on my end or not...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] steyn_e:
Hi,

I have two compliants:

1. I have frequent sod's and when I want to wake my phone, i need to touch the screen where you normally slide to unlock.

2. I really need terminal in my phone, because my wifi doesn't work (and to do the wifi-nvram fix i need terminal). Not working wifi is normal though, i haven't had it working ever (without the fix).

Maybe useful, i have a Rhod100 (dutch).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
1. Please try WisTilt2's latest testing kernel. It should fix the touch-to-wake problems (which are technically NOT SoD's - a true sleep of death is when the phone cannot be woken with button presses, phone does not receive calls, adb doesn't work, etc...)

2. Download ConnectBot - it's on the Market. It is typically used to connect to remote servers, but it is also a great tool which can connect locally to the phone's root terminal.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] steyn_e:
Yeah, but that is the problem, i cannot download anything because i don't have WiFi, and as long as i don't have mobile internet (for a reasonable price) i can't download anything. I would like to ask if you are able to put Terminal and ASTRO in the next build.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Christiaan91:
Download the apk from your pc and put it on your sdcard. Open a file manager and install it.

BTW look at the website ben.nl. €5 every month isn't a lot for mobile internet.(i use it too:P)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Phil Olenick:
Does this build have a working headphone jack?

I'm still a prisoner of WM 6.5 because I need the headphone jack - I use the phone as an internet radio much of the time.

I've just been sent a new TP2 because my old one's screen developed a leak between the layers (a big oily-looking spot) that made it unresponsive to touch input. My first had WM 6.1 with Touch Flo, this has WM 6.5 with Sense - which I'm not as crazy about - no way to kill running apps!

I used the Audiovox XV-6600 for 6 years - multiple refurbs - until a reasonably-sized screen hit the market - I was in PPC 2003 2nd Ed. until a year ago!

Holding me back from Android have been (1) my dependence on Pocket Quicken, which is in end-of-life since Landware was denied the right to make new versions by Intuit and (2) my need to synch calendar and contacts with Outlook - unless there's a way to do a mass migrate to a new sych platform that runs on Windows.

I suspect the second is easier to deal with than the first, since it's probably possible to migrate Outlook data to Google's calendar and contacts, but I'm not sure of the first. Is there an answer to Quicken that synchs with Android?

It would really be sweet to be able to run WM inside or alongside of Android to have those functions - have you seen how Parallels allows Intel Macs to run Windows and Mac at the same time on the same desktop?

Excuse the long post, but I've had my face to the glass for a while!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] steyn_e:
Thanks, but there is no file explorer in this build. And cannot change my provider for another 2-3 months.

If someone knows a way to install terminal without internet and ASTRO (file explorer), i would very much appreciate it. Maybe a startup command?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Christiaan91:
If i remembered right the headphone will work(11 pin). It's committed in a kernel( can't remember witch one), but if you grab the the newest one it will work.

I need to read posts more carefully :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Christiaan91:
ASTRO file manager click below on the file and it will start the download. useless :p

put the apk file(that you've downloaded) in the androidapps folder, and if i'm right it will install the next time you are booting android.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
You asked quite a few questions, I answered them in-line...

Well... you can't get wifi on the phone to download any apps? I'd suggest ConnectBot, but you'd need to get that off of the market. If you can find an APK you can throw it in the AndroidApps folder and it'll automatically install...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] steyn_e:
Thanks, that worked for me. I have wifi now :w00t:

I would like to try something for y'all, i would like to know what the file name is of the txt that stores your bluetooth mac adress. I would like to screw around a bit with it.

If someone can provide me with it, that would be great.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Phil Olenick:
Thanks for the prompt reply. I synch locally, so if I could get my calendar stuff out by a similar route, I'd probably be all right - though I hate having all my data in the cloud - I'm old school and want a local copy.

Some searching turned up a bunch of Android finance apps, including one called anMoney at adroidzoom that I'll try when I finally make the leap - it had the most positive user comments.

I didn't seriously think a phone could run 2 OSs at once.

If I could use a USB dongle of some sort to get sound out, I'd be happy. Where can I find that?

Ok, found a few by searching on ExtUSB.

I'm puzzled by one of your comments, about only some Rhodium phones having a dedicated 3.5mm jack. My TP2 does have a 3.5mm jack that I use under WM 6 for taking music out to phones and to my car stereo (bought one with a front-panel line in jack, so you can tell this is important to me). Is the problem with sound out the jack a matter of software or hardware in the Android ports?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Only the RHOD400 (Sprint) and RHOD500 (VZW) have dedicated 3.5mm jacks. All the GSM-only variants only have the single mini-USB plug at the bottom, no dedicated 3.5mm jack.

The issue is most certainly kernel related, didn't mean to indicate there was an issue with WinMo....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
You know, I thought the same thing at first as well. Then my clock slipped a few minutes, and I gave up on that experiment and installed ClockSync. I think you might be right considering we both came to that thought independently, it might keep time better, but somehow still slips up eventually.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Christiaan91:
I connected my phone to my pc today and i noticed that the usb debug icons in the taskbar aren't there.

Also the sd card doesn't show up in my computer anymore.

But it's working because i can use droid explorer
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] webxplore:
arrrghhh & stinebd..thanks again for a great build.

Thought I will provide my feedback on the GBX0A alpha. I am running this build (no additional changes from your attached zip) in parallel with froyo red.

GBX0A has been the best android release for me so far. I have been running it without a single soft reset or android restart since GBX0A came out. I am pleasanty surprised at the reliability having played with so many builds. Almost 4 days and still going strong without a single crash is stunning. Phone goes to sleep and wakes up almost instantaneously. No issues. Battery life is awesome with few calls (short), Exchange (mail & calendar), gmail & live mail, an occasional web/market browsing. I am getting about 10hrs on a full charge enough to last until I get back home. Apps are fairly responsive. My take on app response is on par with froyox/froyored builds (find frx04 too slow). Some apps that I am used to using do not work (screen disappears) or get a force close option (one example is the speedtest app by Ookla. Other speed test apps have the same issues. Some banking apps disaapear as soon as I open. As you mentioned, gps & cam does not work.

Finally, my gripe with all android builds is that the 3G speeds are pathetically slow. wifi is perfect and no issues. What surprises me is that each time I test, my downloads are less than 100 kbps and uploads are 350-450 kbps (wish it was opposite). Any ideas to make this better would be appreciated? I remember playing with tiad8's bundles and I believe his 1/12 bundle was the best with .8-.9 Mbps speeds consistently. This tells me that there is something in the builds that probably plays a role in the 3g peeds.

Apologize for the rant.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Hrm. That's an interesting point, if tiad's builds are faster on 3g than any of the XDAndroid builds.

Shame we will have to pick apart his build ourselves, as there's probably nothing that he can provide us to potentially fix our builds. Off the top of my head, I don't have any idea what would effect 3g speed, especially that dramatically.

Battery life is only going to get better, if you're on 1253 from GIT (which from your description you are - that's what I've included in the zip) doesn't have the panel collapse fixes in it. I'm going to wait to repackage this until a) WisTilt2 fixes the panel collapse code, which seems almost complete and b) stinebd releases another system image - I was doing some testing for him, he rewrote libsensors and gsensor now works like a champ in GB - hope to have a new bundle soon!

Glad to hear you like the build, appreciate the feedback!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
Agreed, I've been running this as well, and this fits my own observations as well. I think this build's system is more stable than FRX. I got a few reboots on the first day playing with Neocore, and just saw my first reboot today, which means I was running for many days without a crash, unheard of for me as well. I wonder if it's because the particularly buggy parts of the system, particularly location and sensors, aren't enabled on it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
Try these build.prop changes

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=595108

I've set them on one of my images, but since I don't actually have a data plan on this SIM, I haven't tried any speed tests with it. But it should be easy to verify whether this has any effect or not.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Someone else sent me those as well, very curious to see if it has an effect.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] reckert:
I'm seeing the time skew - it seems pseudo random when it happens.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] pdawg17:
Based upon what is in the first post is it expected that Gmail does not allow for viewing of an email? I can open Gmail and see the list of emails but when I select one it shows it for a split second and then bounces back to the inbox...are others seeing this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Yup. Sorry I didn't describe that better, Google Reader basically does the same thing...

Sir Stine is working on a fix ;).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] pdawg17:
Awesome news! I love the Gingerbread in so many other ways...I just need my Gmail...you guys do some great work!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] codedesignr:
For now, you could try just the regular "Email" app. I think it was preinstalled on the Gingerbread sys. It handles email just fine and is much like the "Gmail" app without the advanced features. But, if you are just checking and composing email, it's fast and working!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
The G1 guys had this same problem, found that dropping back to gcc4.3 fixed it. Compiler bugs are such a pain...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] pdawg17:
Anyone have the camera kernel working on this? I get stuck in the middle of booting but I have not tried a new data.img although I wouldn't think I would need to...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Probably not... I definitely haven't tried it. That code is going mainline soon hopefully tho!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] aliilyas:
Sensational stuff
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] muziling:
greate builds.

I down an app from market name "Fall Down", and g-sensor not work on my rhod400

kernel WisTilt2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] pdawg17:
Look at first post...it says g-sensor is not working correctly yet...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] webxplore:
I can open Gmail and scroll mails as well as select and read any specific email. I am using the "Email" client rather than "GMail" app. I use email client for exchange/hotmail/gmail (so that I can use the combined inbox).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] falzon03:
heyyyyy sprint tp2 stock rom unlocked running this and my internet decides to disconnect and not reconnect every once in a while and only a soft reset fixes this...airplane mode also gets stuck if i try to use it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] D@nny:
I'm using this build since a couple of days now.. No big complaints so far, just a few apps that won't run normally (like pingchat). That's ok tho...

There is just one thing, while in windows my phone can run for 2 days.. However with Android the battery will be empty in 6 hours :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Stick to WinMo then.

There's A TON of power-management related development going on right now, that will dramatically improve battery life. If you've seen my testing thread you'll know what I mean...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] scooper:
Hi,

I have a Tilt2 and want to give Android a try but been unsuccessful.

Here's the problem.

After it said creating data store, got a couple more screens of stuffs and then the screen went off. If I left it alone for a while, nothing happened. If I pressed power button to turn the screen on, it said something resume and then the loop of 'mdp irq ... 4 4 and mdp_dma: busy' began.

I tried Froyo and same thing happened. Tried with different rootfs but no go either. Some suggested to do a long format and start from scratch to fix that loop issue which I did as well.

Is there anything else I need to do to get it fixed?

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Did you format with the HP tool or something other than the built-in Windows method? Did you try deleting the data.img and trying again? Did you grab the correct startup.txt?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] scooper:
I went ahead and used one from MiniTool and it booted with Froyo. With your package, had to put the calibration file in. Thought I could do my own.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
You can certainly use your own calibration file. Are the directions unclear? Let me know, I'm open to changing the wording.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] scooper:
Not at all. I got caught up with the format thing and didn't read about the calibration file as I got none. I did use some other formatting tool prior but forgot I had to click on apply.

Now I just need to figure out why I can't connect to my router wirelessly. First time that a device can't connect to my router, even using WEP. Boot back to WinMo and connected fine. iTouch also worked. My E3000 got guest access and that worked.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
WEP is not supported (native-ly). Please read the FAQ!

It's very insecure, and I highly recommend changing to WPA/WPA2 immediately if you have any choice in the matter!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] scooper:
Sorry, I did read the FAQ over at Project Android. It said there were problems with WEP and there are people saying their Android devices can, older Android builds I think, so I thought I would give it a try.

I guess I have no choice but to do it. Some devices I have at home didn't like anything else except WEP on 2.4GHz network so I didn't change it in the first place. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Did you checkout the FAQ link in the first post? There's workarounds to get WEP working... I just wanted you to be aware of the reasons to not choose WEP - if you have no choice, then you have no choice ;).