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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
Exactly, I was thinking the same thing!

Yes, that's what you told me and there wasn't any smiley faces or anything! Something is wrong but nice change I guess!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] fortunz:
You guys must get sick of hearing about the LED. Brace yourselves. ;)

I read at night just before falling asleep, using my TP2. I use dark backgrounds and green text to avoid eye strain. That orange LED is pretty brutal on the eyes though. It'd be great if the orange LED only came on once the screen went off. It makes sense then to indicate it hasn't gone into a deep sleep yet. If the screen is on, you already know the phone is awake, do you not?

Assuming the devs have better things to do than attend to my eye strain (as if! :eek:), does anyone have a feeling for how close we are to the end of the issues that necessitate LED sleep status? I really prefer the Android reading software to anything I have on WinMo. I'm thinking of trying some tape tonight to at least blunt the brightness, but I'm wary of leftover gunk.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
GPS sleep issues aren't even being investigated ATM, but I'm sure at some point they'll get addressed. Not sure what kind of response you were expecting, I'm not going to give you a date or even a time frame. I have no idea, so it would be completely made-up.

AFAIK that's the last blocker of sleep - the RIL was for a while, but the new RIL resolves the slow-to-sleep issue. Other than the occasional app, I haven't had any sleep issues (assuming I stayed on top of the GPS...)

I'm not sure what to do about the occasional app killing sleep - I'm assuming regular Android phones are affected by this as well...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] fortunz:
That's the kind of response I'd hoped for. I've only been to the kernel-well once and I've only used one, but I figure some of you are watching it and its progress pretty closely. Thanks. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ppcfly:
So I got an invite to google music beta today... but I can't find it in the market on my FX06 install. When I go to the android market website on my computer, it lists my "XD Android" phone, but it is grayed out and it says that the app isn't compatible with my phone. Anyone else gotten it to work? The app says it is for 2.2.2 devices and up, which I know this build is... what gives??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
I thought you just needed the built-in Music app...?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] nasapunk88:
The new music cloud sync is in beta currently so it doesn't work on the current music app.

You can just find the the beta music 3.0.1 .apk app online and use to install instead of through the marketplace. (just google it)

I don't have the beta invite yet =( but i am using the new music app with my local files.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Thanks, I'll look out for it!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Entropy512:
I strongly suggest googling ADB and learning how to set up the utilities on your machine. I can't help you with setup as I've never set up ADB in Windows, I have it set up on a Linux box.

Once you have the ADB utilities set up, the following commands can be very useful:

adb logcat -b radio -v time (plus potentially some other options to make it dump to a file - this pulls a radio error log)

adb logcat -v time (pulls a system error log)

While helping you debug without ADB is possible, it's a LOT easier if someone can review a radio logcat to see if the RIL is popping out any errors. Sometimes a logcat can easily find a "smoking gun".
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Christiaan91:
@lotusfrontera

Go here push the search button type ADB windows, and there you go
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Whitethug:
Thanks

I'm a long time lurker in this forum and I just wanted to take a second to thank everyone who works on getting Android onto the Touch Pro 2. I thought I was going to have to junk my phone because Windows Mobile was giving me so much trouble, but thanks to you guys I can keep this phone, stay on my SERO plan, and not pointlessly spend money.

I know this forum gets filled up with a lot of ingrates who are angry that bluetooth doesn't work, but I hope in some small way those shows some appreciation.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ppcfly:
Sweet, thanks... I didn't really know what to search for, and kinda forgot that I could install it myself. :) Here is the link to the XDA thread hosting the apk for anybody else that needs/wants it. Posted here
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rpierce99:
I installed that app and was able to link it to my google music beta account, works well. When I first installed it I didn't have any options to add the streaming account, but after I approved the app to use my account, deleted the app's data, and force closed it, the next time I opened it I was able to see all my music. Hope this helps someone else.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rpierce99:
stinebd (lord of all things xdandroid) on the status of FRX07:

http://southcape.org/2011/05/27/what-about-frx07/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ppcfly:
Same thing happened to me... took a bunch of messing with it to finally get it to work. But streaming google music FTW!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] DocBeav:
Switching Back to WM 6.5

Relative newbie at this but really love my Tilt 2 and would like to run Android on it. I have read the posts and all but maybe I missed it....is it possible to switch back to WM 6.5 that I have now if the FRX06 doesn't work well for or i decide its not for me? Is it possible to go back and forth between the 2 OSs without losing anything? Sorry if the info is already here, just must have missed it. Scared to mess to much with a phone that is working great ya know? Thanks for any help or insight any of you may have....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] fishingmedic:
If you're running this build it's running off the sd card, so all you do if you want to go back to winmo is soft reset and voila, it's back. Then to get back to android, go to the folder on the sd card, click on haret and voila, you haz android. Just read the FAQ's that arrrghhh and others have so graciously created and if you read that and follow the steps, all should be good.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] fortunz:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=980079

That's the step-by-step thread I followed. Read the whole OP, and the whole OPs of the RIL thread and this one, and you should both have answers to all your questions and be able to get it running nicely and with a minimum of fuss. Good luck.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] DocBeav:
Thanks man, I'll give it a shot and see how it goes!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] prexzone:
Does anyone know about the applanet android app? i cant create a thread for this n y'all shud knw y. Mine stopped working is this a general problem?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Never heard of/used this app - you seem to insinuate that it worked at one point, what changed? What have you tried?

Ah I just did some Googling. DO NOT USE THIS APP!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Entropy512:
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-apps/9771-word-about-applanet.html

http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-general-discussion/11265-do-not-use-app-applanet.html

http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-apps/15219-uuhhh-applanet.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] husam666:
/

!\

Dude it's against the forum rules to talk about that app!

click on the nyan cat in my sig for more info
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] AkumaX:
anyone curious about FRX07 should read this link!

http://southcape.org/2011/05/27/what-about-frx07/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Demonic240:
So I put this on my old tilt2 for my finance and we're having issues bringing the phone out of sleep. Usually we have to try both power buttons and it will work after a few attempts.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
Re:buzzing in phone

Anyone having buzzing in the phone, I think I have fixed it might have been stated before but I just tried something and it worked. If your phone be buzzing when on a call or another call come through on callwaiting or something of the sort. THIS IS WHAT I DID:

1. PUT PHONE ON MUTE

2. PUT PHONE ON SPEAKER

3. TAKE PHONE OFF MUTE

4. TAKE PHONE OFF SPEAKER

5. NO MORE BUZZING

6. HOPEFULLY IT WORK FOR ALL!:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] panev:
Waiting for SD Card?

Hi, all

Is it normal 'Waiting for SD Card' message? What is the reason?

Is it necessary the device to be connected to the PC via USB cable, during the installation?

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] CosmicBlue2000:
In the FAQ, you recommend ClockSync to prevent the clock drift, but it doesn't work (at least for me). It leads me to the question: if I install the latest release from this thread (no other modules, zImages or rootfs or anything else), is it rooted?

Tried to find an answer to this question in this thread, but I'm still unsure.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Carld256:
Yes, I read somewhere here that XDAndroid is automatically rooted.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Entropy512:
You'll see that my links were all to reasons NOT to use that app - e.g. potential malware, warez, etc.

The app is bad news, not just because it provides access to warez, but because it asks for some permissions it shouldn't need, and probably has a few other shady/dangerous functions too.

Correct. We're rooted from the get-go. Someone did some work on getting the "superuser" app working, which doesn't give root permissions - it actually allows the user to control when apps get root permissions. Right now anything can get root perms, which could be a little risky.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] The Silent Man:
Hi guys,

I'm RHOD100 user (inter. version, GSM) and I noticed that SMS delivery report doesn't work. Is this known issue?

Moreover, Droidwall and Hisurfing don't work. The message is something like "wrong IP table". I'm on limited data plan so is there any other firewall application that can allow only Clocksync to go online?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] The Silent Man:
This is the exact message:

"Error applying iptables rules,

Exit code:11

iptables v1.4.7

iptables: No chain/target/

match by that name."
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Could be your SD card. Have you tried a different kernel?

Some kernels wake better than others. The tradeoff for battery life - painful panel wakes. Devs are working on a fix, but WisTilt2's kernel from 4/15 wakes pretty well.

Works great for me. Our builds are rooted out of the box, as was stated earlier.

Yea I don't think our build supports DroidWall... some iptables module missing or some such thing? I'll ask around...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
Droidwall was discussed here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11112543&postcount=591

You just need to load a couple modules. The modules are already part of the kernel build, but they're not loaded by default.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Just the man I wanted to ask, forgot about the thread you made thar. Thanks!

Is there any harm in getting these modules enabled by default? Or should I just treat 'em like IPv6 and just modprobe them in the user.conf file in the next build...?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
No harm. I patched it into my rootfs ages ago.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] The Silent Man:
What about the SMS delivery report issue?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
I have no clue what you're talking about, sorry.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
When you send an SMS, you can request a delivery verification. When you receive an SMS, you might need to supply a delivery verification.

As far as I know, neither of these options are supported in our radio software. (At least, the commands to invoke them were always rejected when I tested them.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] The Silent Man:
SMS delivery report is very common service and largely used in GSM networks.

There is an option for enabling delivery report in your build but when I check it, it doesn't work. I don't receive report.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] The Silent Man:
Btw, thanks for the help about Droidwall. It's working now :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Evidently it's not supported. What's the point? So you can confirm the far end received the SMS message...?

I would say it's not very common, as you're the first person to ever mention it :p.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
At least on my phone/radio version, the delivery status report was improperly formatted so Android was unable to parse it. I've hacked a fix for this in the ril, but I dunno if other radio versions are broken the same way.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] NeoMatrixJR:
arrrghhh no smash?!

arrrghhh, you blow newbz out of the water for asking generally relevant (if not misplaced) questions, and THIS comes up and you actually give it a relatively decent response?!

Bad BAD grammar/language skills, TOTALLY wrong thread, general inference that people here "shud knw" something about an app NOT developed by/promoted by/on XDA, etc.

Mind = blown...WTF?!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Eh I never heard of the app before. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, I guess I shouldn't have? Shame on me?

At least I did some Googling and followed up with a warning to not use the damned thing....

Can we get back to FRX06?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] The Silent Man:
One more question...is Droid Explorer enough itself or do I need to instal some additional drivers for usb?

On one of my computers Droid Explorer works ok but on the another I couldn't manage to connect the phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Any Win machine that you connect the phone to will need drivers...

Sometimes the drivers provided with Droid Explorer 'just work' and sometimes you need drivers from PDAnet. I've had machines where PDAnet wasn't required, and others where I tried everything and that was what ended up fixing my issue.

You don't even need to use PDAnet application - I certainly don't, I just use it for the drivers. This is all in the FAQ under the ADB section...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Demonic240:
Thanks! That did the trick perfectly! Now to only find out why wifi keeps dropping when the phone goes to sleep and why one her games keeps force closing, though I feel the second issue is due to the processor not being able to keep up with it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
I don't use wifi, but it *should* work.

Games... aren't going to work so well on this tired old phone. I like to play Labyrinth Lite, it seems to run pretty well. I think there's a thread around here somewhere with a list of apps/games...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ahighone:
Market Downloads

Hey guys,

1st - Thanks for this. I am, or was, a full time Android user thanks to this project.

2nd - I searched and found a few posts about this but nothing seems to work for me.

Issue: I was working 100% and loving every minute of the xdandroid on my Tilt2 (Rhod300)... install was a breeze and I had a great looking setup until one day I connected to the market and hit 'update all'.

Zeam Launcher was stuck in a FC loop and I couldn't seem to get anywhere to disable it as my home screen launcher and therefore couldn't use the phone properly.

I reinstalled Froyo with this build from the OP just like last time.

Now, whenever I get into the Market and attempt to download something, i.e. Advanced Task Killer, it will give me a 'Starting Download' and then immediately go to 'Download Unsuccessful'.

I googled the hell out of it and came across various suggestions of clearing the market cache, clearing the data, rebooting, etc.

I even removed all files from my sd card, reformatted, and put android back on and still the same thing.

I've re-chosen the Networks I'm using, I can browse the internet, I have a 3g connection with plenty of signal, and I can get email, etc... It's just Market that's giving me fits.

Anyone have this issue and know of a workaround or solution?

Thanks for any help.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Entropy512:
That's the default action for wifi.

Settings->Wireless and Networks->Wifi Settings->Hit the Menu Key->Advanced lets you change this
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Demonic240:
Yah, I changed that yesterday but apparently it's still doing it. That or the wifi is staying connected and just dropping data.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] MartindH:
I have got a similar problem regarding the Android Market as ahighone.

Either a downloads keeps ongoing for ever or afther a few seconds the error message "Download unsuccessfull". I have tried several sollutions,3G, WiFi, clearing cache of Market app, reformatting and reinstalling, but nothing seems to help.

Is there anybody who has got any sugestions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
New data.img?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] MartindH:
I'm a bit new in to Android and learning more everyday, so forgive me if I am wrong but I thought that there is no data.img on a clockwork mod build.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Last I checked, the first post of this thread mentions nothing about CWM... Why should I assume you're using anything different?

There's a data partition, I guess blow it away? Dunno. I don't support CWM, like I said the first post makes no mention of it - so why would you think it's OK to post a question about that here?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Entropy512:
Ask this question in the appropriate thread (for a CWM build) then.

This is not the appropriate thread for CWM builds.

P.S. This is why, despite the claim in the CWM builds thread, CWM builds are *not* the way to go. Few people are running them, so there is very little support for them. CWM is needed on NAND phones in order to allow modifications to the filesystem when Android isn't running, but in our case - we can just pop the SD into a card reader and make our tweaks. CWM is irrelevant and if anything just another thing to potentially fail and add bugs when running Android from SD via haret.

While it is possible to run the real FRX06 build in a partitioned mode (the rootfs supports it), those doing so are knowledgeable enough about how things work to translate "delete data.img" to "mkfs the partition". If you are unable to make this simple translation yourself, you shouldn't be running a partitioned build.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Rhedd:
SD not mounted

when in the android. all is well but i cant access my sd card. WHY???:(

OTHER THAN THAT, TWISTED BUILD MAN. GOOD JOB
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Backup all the data on the card. Format the card using the HP Tool. Full format, FAT32. Restore the data, or start fresh - your choice. Android should now 'see' the SD card.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Rhedd:
Thanks man

Thanks man i owe you one. Also need to unlock a tilt 2 (new one)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Look up hard SPL. Doesn't have anything to do with Android.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mike6200:
I installed this on my att Htc Tilt 2 and there is a constant red light on the top left hand corner, and it drains my battery. Is there a way to fix this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] fortunz:
I'm more concerned about the FAQ being broken. How do we fix that?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
lol, I actually clicked the link making sure the FAQ was OK. Thanks dude, gave me a good laugh ;).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Demonic240:
So the wi-fi icon shows that wifi is staying on, but when I bring the phone out of sleep I have to turn the wifi off then back on in order for any data to work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Hrm... I want to say this bug was fixed in a later kernel, but perhaps not. Are you on the kernel that's included in the bundle (1276)? Have you tried anything newer?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Demonic240:
The first kernel I tried was the latest one on the download page. I then tried the 4/15 one at your suggestion to help with the bringing the phone out of sleep faster which did work for the first day or so, but now it's taking longer to bring it out again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Well you do have to realize that wakes can be slowed by background processes. So while the kernel I suggested should be *better* for panel wakes, so far nothing is *flawless* as far as panel wake goes.

As for wifi... I have no clue. I don't really use it, perhaps there's a bug related to it tho. Check the bug tracker and if there isn't already a bug on it (like I said, I'm pretty sure there is one) then file one with some logs. If there's an existing bug, throw your logs onto it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Carld256:
I'm using the latest kernel and have run into that problem too. Setting wifi to never turn off when plugged in seems to help, even when it's not plugged in.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Demonic240:
Is there a known issue with the battery meter not reading properly? I like watching the number drop then shoot up and down while not charging. I'd check the bug reports but I'm at work and can only access from my phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Oh yes, the battery meter is not accurate at all. There's a tool called SCBS from Jonpry that helps with the battery meter fluctuation, but it still needs some work before it's incorporated into the main build. It only works on RHOD, and the calibration process is still very manual. There's also some controversy on how frequently it wakes to take measurements...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Demonic240:
Ah well that is definitely good to know. So can we use the battery meter as a *rough* estimate or should we just ignore it all together?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Rough estimate. The main problem is under load, the battery meter becomes very inaccurate - so it'll seemingly drain very quickly when doing pretty much anything, and then seemingly 'charge' back up even tho it's not actually charging.

Basically the current algo doesn't account for peripherals. The new algo is fantastic, just needs some polish & expanded to other devices.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
Eh. The SCBS stuff appears to cause increased battery drain by itself, as well as slow wake issues. IMO it's no good in its current state.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Entropy512:
Yeah I'm on the 5/14 WisTilt2 kernel and it seems significantly worse than the 4/4 kernel.

My understanding of the "old" battery code was that it primarily monitored battery voltage (didn't consider current), so if the voltage drooped (such as under load), so would the charge estimate. Supposedly it is most accurate near 50%, which given my assumptions about its architecture indicate it would most likely drop the first 10-20% fairly quickly then slow down (which is what it DID do). Every SCBS-enabled kernel I've tried has just steadily drained the battery at a relatively constant speed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
Strictly speaking, the "old" battery code isn't wrong. Battery capacity isn't strictly linear; if you discharge it at a faster rate, it will have a lower effective capacity. E.g. you expect it to provide the same amount of total energy regardless of discharge rate, but that doesn't happen in reality. A 1500mAh battery discharged at 10mA may actually last more than 150 hours, and discharged at 1500mA will probably last much less than 1 hour. If you discharge at 1500mA for a half hour and then cut back to 10mA, the battery will recover to more than 50% capacity as it cools down.