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[Atrix 4G General] jamezr:
Dude...the phone is $199........the accessories are overpriced....I will give you that...just don't buy them!!! If you want to rant against AT&T then email AT&T!! Ranting against them here does you no good. This is NOT an AT&T forum.

If you don't like the phone or AT&T then don't buy it!! Don't get AT&T service! It's that simple! You guys act like someone is FORCING you to buy the phone and all the accessories and then get AT&T for life and give up your first born.

If you don't like it don't buy it.............
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
No they don't, at all.

Lots of people will be doing this, and will continue to voice opinions on price.
[Atrix 4G General] Xevilious:
I have nothing against the phone itself. It seems good, and the price is right. But at the end of the day, it's just another phone. The only thing that made it special was the laptop dock, and they botched the price on that. I was even willing to pay the $500 for the bundle, but the tethering fee is the deal breaker, and that's where AT&T has really dropped the ball. I mean, I saw the Engadget videos, and this thing does not offer a laptop quality experience. Charging a monthly premium is crazy. But it is a very convenient solution.

I still really want to adopt this technology, but right now, I'm hoping one of the other carriers jumps into the laptop-dock mix and offers a non-tethering solution.
[Atrix 4G General] kbc88:
Lol, look, it's just the opposite. It seems to me that more people are ticked off about the accessory price in this forum. If people want to rant about it on this forum, let them, it should be YOU that shouldn't be caring. You're doing more wrong here than good by telling everyone they can't rant what they want. How about you ignore those rants and let the threads pass... that seems more like the right thing to do than attempting to tell the general population to "JUST DONT BUY THE PHONE" and creating a thread thats bound to be nuked. Really, that's the lamest reasoning for the griefers.

It's like telling people to let a corrupt government do what they keep doing. No, people have the right to rant about it anywhere in the country, there's no government bar or room where only the ranting is allowed.
[Atrix 4G General] smitty1:
Ok the biggest dig is that the atrix has terrible connection speeds.

For a super 4g phone that is just unacceptable.

1.5 k download speed, it is 4g right, wtf?
[Atrix 4G General] theknub:
assuming the phone doesn't have reasonable connection speeds "as advertised"... who has heard of class action?
[Atrix 4G General] jamezr:
I wasn't telling everyone they couldn't complain.....just that there seemed to be more people complaining about the un released phone and its accessories than I have seen before. Complaining about how terrible the phone and AT&T is and how evil everything about the phone and service is........well the phone hasn't been released and no one can speak about it yet because no one here on these forums has one!!!!

Your analogy about the phone and service being compared to a corrupt government stinks!.... Put context around it...it's a phone! :-) Buy it.... don't buy it..... but please stop all the complaining....... If you don't like AT&T and Motorola then call them, write them, email them and complain....don't buy their products and services.........
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
I have done all that.

If more people are complaining than you've seen before, doesn't that tell you something?

Where there is smoke there is fire. I personally like it when forums tell me when there is fire ;).
[Atrix 4G General] johnnydeathmatch:
AT&T isn't pricing the dock at $500. Motorola is. The only reason tethering is required if you get the dock at a subsidized price is to pay back the subsidy. If that doesn't sit well with you, you can always move to a prepaid carrier that doesn't use the subsidy model. However, AT&T (and other carriers) use the subsidy model that pays for hardware upfront in exchange for a contract.

I agree, I wasn't the one who came up with that stupid comparison. A more apt example would be something like a Chevy Corvette that had optional wings that allowed it to also operate as a plane. The Corvette costs $70,000, but to get the wings costs an extra $400,000! Well, ****, you could buy a couple of Cessna's for that price!

To break it down for you (so there isn't any more misunderstanding)

Corvette = Atrix (powerful machines in their own right)

Corvette wings = laptop dock (really cool sounding, but largely useless feature- which is also a first of its kind)

Either way, if you want to ***** about the accessories, go to the accessories sub-forum.

Talk about stupid examples.... A government is an organization that has a monopoly on force in a given geographical area. The key word there is monopoly. Last time I checked AT&T wasn't the only cell carrier, and Motorola wasn't the only producer of phones. I'll concede that there should be more carriers, and government enacts barriers to entry and protects incumbents; however, that is only tangentially related and not the point being debated here.

People are getting whinier? :confused:

There are things not to like about every phone. I think the point being made is that, in most of these forums, people who don't even own the phone don't usually troll about how much they dislike the phone they don't own. It doesn't add anything productive to the site.

What makes it even worse is that the trolls aren't even trolling about the device! Their trolling about the price! The price is what it is. I don't make a habit of heading to yacht forums and *****ing about the high price of yachts.

IMO, people come to this forum for information, not to see a bunch of trolls complain that something is too expensive.
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
You don't know that at all. For all you know AT&T is the only distributor and sets the price themselves.

The comparison is fine. It's an object that the average consumer sees as priced unreasonably. They (we) have the right to complain in the general forums if we like. You're more than welcome to disagree and move on however. Do you work for AT&T or moto? Do you have some vested interest in this thing selling for $500 (LOL)?

The dock is a huge part of this phone, seems fine in General.

Maybe manufacturer's are getting greedier and cutting more corners. Seems like you're way too quick to blame the consumer rather than the OEM. Doesn't really make sense to look inward so quick. Of course we don't own the phone, we can't. Whats wrong with wanting something we WANT to own to be more reasonable? Oh yea, Nothing.

Yachts aren't aimed at the general consumer. You think AT&T is shooting for the mega rich? Feedback is good stuff, relax and let people talk.
[Atrix 4G General] panflute:
At&t sucks !!!!!!!!!!!

I AM getting the Atrix because it will be an awesome phone. However, I have been and still remain very unhappy with AT&T, their policies, and their pricing.

They used to be Cingular here in Florida. They were a great company with great service. When AT&T took them over it all went south. The email I am paying for was "sold" to Yahoo. Why? So then they could send a million ads my way thru Yahoo. It was apparently was not enough for them that i was already paying for the service. Yahoo is the WORST piece of crap email service in the world. Its been nothing but trouble and continues to be years later. Unresponsive pages, deleted emails, bad scripts, downed service, and lets not forget all those ads I am forced to watch.

Tonight I received an email from AT&T saying that my bundled service discount was being lowered, meaning my bill is going up. That is their way of showing their appreciation for my business. I just bought the Captivate a couple of months ago and locked into them for another 2 years so they can continue to up my rates and there is not much I can do or say about it.

Their HORRIBLE reputation for their bad service, expensive pricing, and lack of appreciation for their loyal customers WELL EARNED. If anyone wants to defend them go ahead but most people know better. In 22 months I will be switching to another company no matter.
[Atrix 4G General] upNsmokeAllDay:
The original OP was just a bit FanBoish and more of a troll post than i have seen yet. Also people are entitled to opinions and are free to express them.
[Atrix 4G General] Exador:
Lets face it, when it comes to cell phones people are very immature. If someone shows you their new car do you tell them it sucks because your favorite brand is the best? I tell them it's very nice even if I don't like it. Sometimes people don't realise what an asshole they're coming off as.

With the Atrix I think they're just jealous because they can't get it. So they put it down to try and make themselves feel better. It's quite pathetic if you think about it.
[Atrix 4G General] cegna09:
now that's funny. my first and primary obsession is cars, and let me tell you, people are worse there. They will absolutely tell you your car sucks because of the brand.

anyway, my point is that this behavior is not limited to phones and electronics. It's present about everywhere.
[Atrix 4G General] johnnydeathmatch:
So true! Some have had terrible experiences on AT&T, I also know many that have had horrible experiences on other carriers. In the end we all have an opinion, but all the pissing and moaning about AT&T or how much stuff costs doesn't really help those seeking info about the phone or how it will work.

Whatever, though, it doesn't really matter. People will do what they will do. :rolleyes:
[Atrix 4G General] Aielman:
And what evidence is there of this? Motorola has a fairly well deserved reputation for reasonably low priced docking solutions for their phones. AT&T, on the other hand, has a long and storied reputation for ridiculously over pricing accessories that can be found for much less from any other vendor for the same product.

Why are we to believe they've somehow reversed positions for this one phone?

Last time I checked, Motorola was the only manufacturer with a phone available in North American any time soon that contained the Tegra2. And last time I checked, AT&T would be the only carrier to carry the only phone with a Tegra2 in this market...and the only vendor/carrier combination with a dual core phone of any sort available before Q4 of this year in the US as well.

Therefore, they are a monopoly...and there is no other vendor, any other phone, or any other carrier that that has a dual core processor available in the US...or will have one within the next couple of months.

So your argument is about as weak as the analogies in this case.

And btw...if my recent purchases from AT&T are any indication, for those who think they're going to be able to hold on to their grandfathered unlimited plan, I don't think this will be the case. The last two smartphones we purchased last month required us to "upgrade" to one of the current plans.
[Atrix 4G General] johnnydeathmatch:
Well, my wife and I still have unlimited data, and I just bought her a new phone a couple of days ago (Dell Streak).

Also, dude, you really need to learn what a monopoly is. Just because no other manufacturers produce a Tegra2 phone doesn't make Motorola a monopoly. Nobody but Apple makes iPhones, but that doesn't count as a monopoly, either. Now, if the government only allowed AT&T to have dual core phones, or Motorola, or whatever, then that would be a monopoly.

What evidence do you have that AT&T set the price for the dock? There really isn't any proof either way, but it's not like Motorola says to AT&T, "We want $600 for this phone," and AT&T says, "No way! We will only buy it for $800!" I'm not sure why it would be any different for the dock. What you're saying is that AT&T must buy the dock from Motorola for $100, and they mark it up to $500. Why exactly would Motorola do that? Motorola could offer it on another carrier or directly or at Best Buy or whatever and make twice as much and still undercut AT&T's price!
[Atrix 4G General] Selkie:
I'm not sure what market you are in, but the Optimus 2x comes out in March...on T-Mobile.
[Atrix 4G General] ajftl:
You very stupid! !!!!
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
The government doesn't have to be involved for something to be a monopoly FYI. Motorola is definitely not a monopoly though. You can argue about carries and colluding if you want though ;)

There is just as much evidence either way. We don't know. It seems that if we're buying it FROM AT&T to complain TO AT&T regardless of if they don't set the price.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] butterbeam:
Delete please...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] emissary:
Good day I need a windows phone 7 activation key for my hd2 its very expensive to call Microsoft as I live in Antigua and I don't have internet at home if someone is gracious could u send it to emissary44@gmail.com as I am presently running Android
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] stepthehen:
Activation Via Web Chat with MS

No-one is going to share their key with you because it may lock their phone, if you search the Q&A thread, there is a post where you can get the key via Chat with MS.

I don't know if this works but neither will you until you try.

Not too sure if anyone will be able to get a key for you either via the phone, they'd need your phone number. Open a Live account with MS and try the web chat way.

You have internet on your phone? Or a Library or an Internet Cafe?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=950390
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] n_god:
the methot is for U.S. it does not work in Turkey or Antigua.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] tictac0566:
I live in Europe, and by mistake, I sent my request for an activation code to Microsoft South Africa. After 48 hours waiting time, I received my code.

So, no worries. Try it.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] imanh:
try chat method with VPN and all problem wil be solved
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] emissary:
Explain please
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] emissary:
Got it from Microsoft
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] w98seeng:
What apps are safe to remove from Android? I want to try a really clean OS to see if there is any performance differences.

Is there a list somewhere that tells what system apps do and if it is safe to remove them?

Apps like...

Accounts

badge provider

certificate installer

applications provider

Google feedback

UNA Service

Etc.

Thanks,

Ian
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PAGOT:
Dunno which thread or who I got it from , but try

http://goo.gl/hzlKB
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] w98seeng:
Thanks PAGOT, I'll take a look.

Ian
[Desire HD General] Nitin985:
So my friend had a desire hd and he let me borrow it for a week and I must say its brilliant , a major update from my desire. It's blazing fast no problem camera is amazing games are smooth speed of light beautiful screen. I also let my Apple fanboy cousin play on it and he lives it

Good job HTC :)
[Desire HD General] SAPPH1RE:
U gotta love the 4.3" screen.. love at first sight for me though…
[Desire HD General] ErOR22:
Yep this phone is awesome! My mate who has a N900 just loves it too, but then again everybody I showed it to does too lol. iPhone is so overrated, it's for little schoolgirls...
[Desire HD General] jamdog30:
I agree it is a fantastic phone and the practical HTC layer makes it a superb phone for anyone. My favourite bit is the friend stream. What I don't like is the increase price of.games.compared.to Apple app.store prices.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] HTC_HDD:
Hello,

i have a hd2 with android 2.1 and problems with adb.

i just followed this videotutorial http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hY6j...ailpage#t=126s and stopped at this point.

C:\android-sdk-windows\platform>adb shell mount /system

Usage: mount [-r] [-w] [-o options] [-t type] device directory

Why i get this error message? My device is connected.

Thank you
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n00bvn:
Hi guys,

After I uninstall phonealarm app, now my TD2 has some problems:

- when incoming call, it does not vibrate. (sms coming, it still vibrate good)

- sometime when incoming call, sound is very low.

Pls help me. Thanks!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vyis:
in Sense Setting tab, under "Sound and Display", look for "Ring type", tape in and select "Vibrate and ring"

if the sound is low, check your ringer volume, which is responsible for all type of notification sound level, set it to 80~100%
[HD2 General] dusan498:
is there a better camera for a stock hd2 and how to install it
[HD2 General] mattfmartin:
Theres a couple of good ones in the market, like camera 360, vignette
[HD2 General] dusan498:
are they free?
[HD2 General] dusan498:
whick market ? the marketplace??
[HD2 General] coldest~~~:
in your phone's market or here : https://market.android.com/
[Android Software Development] anojan:
Hi,

I was wondering if it's safe to get a Motorola Droid X with bad ESN for development and other use. Will it be fully functional via WIFI (Markeplace, etc). How about if it's unactivated? Do I need to activate it before I get to the home screen?
[Android Software Development] Gahh Its Lee:
It should work. I think you can do the entire setup on wifi.
[Android Software Development] anojan:
Thanks. I went ahead and ordered a refurbished droid x from ebay.
[Desire Themes and Apps] scream_clarity:
I have been working on a theme for Alex-V's 2.3 Sense rom that is to look like the Galaxy S interface. Would there e any demand for it to be released? When I get a little further, I will upload some screen shots.
[Desire Themes and Apps] deepakoffline:
that will be really cool :)
[Desire Themes and Apps] jamesa9911:
Yep definitely interested, personally love the clean sms app and lockscreen, but hate the app drawer of touchwiz,

maybe a poll for this would be easier?
[Desire Themes and Apps] scream_clarity:
I will try to get a few screen shots up by the end of the weekend. I work away from home so I don't have access to my computer till Saturday. I might also try it on the Defrost 6.1 ROM.
[Desire Themes and Apps] Paradoxxx:
Interrested too.
[Desire Themes and Apps] radu_wizu:
Should be nice,except for the app drawer.
[Desire Themes and Apps] scream_clarity:
OK. It will just be a theme, not a port. The app drawer and apps might follow later but for now it is just the main UI aspect I will be trying. As for the lock screen, The Vibrant can be unlocked by sliding it in any direction where as the Desire can only be unlocked by a downward slide. Can I change that?
[Desire Themes and Apps] Paradoxxx:
You should ask in another post. :-)
[General Questions and Answers] pmartin:
Hello guys!

Can anybody help me?

I need to convert SMS from my HTC touch pro 2 (WM 6.5) to Nokia E7 (symbian 3).

regards for help!

grettings peter
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shockUK:
Hi All,

I've been reading through all the posts I can find and I'm starting to understand the different parts of the update process, however I would like to confirm my understanding and can't find a post which clarifies this for me, can anyone help?

My X10i is running the following on 3 UK:

Firmware Version 2.1-updat1

Baseband version 2.0.49

Kernel version 2.6.29

Build number 2.0.2.A.0.24

These are the steps as I understand them:

1.) Root the phone using SuperOneClickv1.5.5 (for 2.0.2.A.0.24).zip found on this forum post here: LINK (thanks hush66)

2.) Update the baseband to 2.1.54 following instructions found here: LINK (thanks steve.adams.x10)

3.) Install xRecovery 0.3 as per the post here: LINK (thanks zdzihu)

4.) Then flash using the instructions in the noob guide here: LINK (thanks rendeiro2005)

Then done?

My other question would be, does running this type of procedure reset the phone in terms of apps and save data? If so can I back these up first? Is it possible to backup the factory installed versions mentioned previously?

And I run Windows 7 64bit, which has the SEUS tools installed, should I use my XP based netbook for the flashing process in order to prevent conflicts and problems?

I've only recently moved from iPhone to Android and although I'm loving it I'm finding it hard to piece together the info :)

Thanks for your time and appreciate any replies even uncomplete :D

Cheers

Dan

P.S I've flashed a few baked ROM's on PDA's in the past so not a total idiot (I hope) :D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Buddha:
Do like it says, didn't have to make a thread.
[HTC 7 Pro] marianoitalianoo:
Hello

I just want to warn everybody that want to buy HTC 7 PRO. It has been 5 days since it arrived from UK. It is already packed and ready for a journey back to reseller. It suppose to be a business tool but it with that kind of battery life it is just a joke. But U can somehow manage the juice usage and it is not the worst part. The worst thing about it is sliding mechanism. There are "reviews" all over the internet saying that great and durable. But it is a lie. It is weak designed and the build quality is also not so good. It makes "spring like" sound when it tilts and what annoy me the most is that after 5 days front part of mechanism wobbles. The keyboard is awesome but in combine with such poor sliding mechanism it is not a thumb up at all. I can not imagine how this mechanism will behave after couple of months with heavy business usage and seriously I really do not want to know. If You will add to this poor built headset Windows Phone 7, which is in my opinion awesome but still have a lot missing the HTC 7 PRO it is not a good choice. And I seriously do not recommend to buy it. The most funny part is the HTC customer support. I shared my concerns with them and they replied:

"all I can advise you is to use both hands when sliding the mechanism"

I expected the answer like "we tested the mechanism in advanced tests and it is designed to take a lot of hard usage"

but noooo they just advised me to use both hands. I wasn't quite sure if I want to send it back, but after I read their reply I will send it back for sure.

Of course the HTC BH M300 which was free gift has to be sent back also :)

I do not care that I spend a lot for delivery both ways I do not want to have this phone in my pocket, it is not worth even half money it costs.

Cheers

Pawel
[HTC 7 Pro] MartyLK:
Thanks for the heads-up. Have been wanting a landscape slider and looked at the Quantum, but I couldn't type good with it so I passed it by. If not knowing the user experience of the 7 Pro, I like its looks well enough to consider it. But thanks to you, I can discard it.
[HTC 7 Pro] skycamefalling:
Did you ever think about the possibility that you've simply got a broken device?
[HTC 7 Pro] z33dev33l:
I agree, I just got my hands on one and it's terrible... the battery life is at best on par with the HD7 and the keyboard though decently laid out feels cheap. the sliding mechanism is gritty and I do hear that spring noise...
[HTC 7 Pro] Lidanh:
Thanks,

I saw your reply and ended up with HD7. great device.
[HTC 7 Pro] marianoitalianoo:
I asked HTC what if in time the sliding mechanism will fail to deliver high usability let say :) and just break.

They said that warranty do not cover "wear and tear" , so if it will get damaged, You will get nothing :) from O2, maybe some stickers or key chain :D
[HTC 7 Pro] blanket:
it's the same thing htc singapore told me before

i went to replace the keyboard on my touch pro twice

the same keys failed both times (0, space bar, backspace)

guess what? they told me to use the onscreen keyboard more! if so, what is the point of buying a phone with a physical keyboard?
[HTC 7 Pro] marianoitalianoo:
I am ashamed to say that It turns out that the only thing that actually works as supposed to is iphone :/