yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S II General] TexUs:
The $880-1045 prices I've seen on the Galaxy S II are insane.

If that's true I don't think there will be many buying it off contract. I won't. It'll end up being cheaper to pay off my ETF to acquire it. (If I decide on it over the Atrix).

At this point, I'm hoping to find a stable ROM on my Captivate that'll last me for a few more months, so I can see reviews, development, etc of both the Atrix and Galaxy S II
[Galaxy S II General] distortedloop:
Actually AWS, (aka UMTS Band IV) is 1700/2100, not 1700 with 2100 as an option. AWS uses the 1700 band for UL traffic, and 2100 for DL traffic.

On sale already, but doesn't ship for 62 days...and that price = something like $1050 US. OUCH!!!! I might have been interested at $600-700 US, but that's just too much to be first in line for me here.
[Galaxy S II General] sedde:
Oh wow, i am sure i read 512mb ram on some website.
[Galaxy S II General] Jayrod1980:
The problem is that you will never get those forecast on this phone. I love the sns, I really do but I think ill probably end up getting the galaxy 2 if a variant that's not gimped like the vibrant was with missing features ends up on tmo. The thing probably won't come out here for us until late spring at the earliest anyway so ill have had my sns for almost 6 months by that time anyway.
[Galaxy S II General] Jayrod1980:
So then does this model support aws already or will we have to wait for a tmo spec model?
[Galaxy S II General] distortedloop:
It doesn't appear to based on the specs provided by phone arena:

Network technology:

GSM:

850, 900, 1800, 1900

UMTS:

850, 900, 1900, 2100

I recall it being a surprise to folks that the US Vibrant supported 1900 on the 3G side, so who knows, but I wouldn't bank on it.
[Galaxy S II General] demo23019:
You dont get same quality at all when converting video.

Ive tried taking a 3gb 720p avi and converting to mp4 was at 6gb and not even halfway done before i stopped. Ive messed with all kinds of settings..ect with handbreak it just wont happen.

People with galaxy s phone know what im talking about...crystal clear video playback on samoled...very nice :D

Its cool having pure Google but same time development is slow here. Only handfull of roms and only seen couple people working on themes.

maybe its slow becasue people are waiting for 2.4 idk

But yea it comes with 2.3 who knows when it will get true gingerbread

either way im waiting for 2.4 on this before i make any decision
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
I've had more expensive HTC phones

so i'll definitely be buying a SGS 2 :D
[Galaxy S II General] gogol:
That's true, you will not get the exact quality when converting.

But hey, it is a small screen anyway, I don't mind to loose a bit of quality.

And I found handbrake is pretty good. You can use other software as well.

The price of getting software update is much higher than watching video in this small screen :) At home, I always watch with my TV ... when travelling, I rarely watch movie, web browsing all the way. At the hotel? Well, it has TV!
[Galaxy S II General] Chad_Petree:
where have u seen those prices?

Does the phone come with an microhdmi port? :confused:
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
back in message # 238

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11350960&postcount=238
[Galaxy S II General] Trev186:
This phone better make it to Tmobile. Att is too restrictive and expensive

I have used 88 GBs of data in one month on my phone so their tiered data plans are not an option.

I am looking to these dual core phones to provide us with stronger console emulation on Android.

This should give the extra power to have the Dreamcast, NDS and Dosbox emulators running full speed.

Plus the 64 GB max storage option is great! I have 55 GBs of PS1 games that i get tired of rotating in and out of my current SD card.
[Galaxy S II General] SamHaLeKe:
Advantages I see against former Galaxy S:

4.27” Super AMOLED Plus display (real stripe matrix)

1GHz Samsung Exynos 4210 processor (ARM Cortex-A9 Dual Core CPU + ARM

Mali-T604

Quad Core GPU)

8MP AF camera + Full HD 1080p@30fps video + LED Flash

2MP front facing camera

Quadband 3G

HSPA+ 21Mbit/s

HDMI to micro-USB with MHL

3-axis Gyroscope sensor

Bluetooth 3.0+HS

NFC support

TouchWiz UI 4.0

1650mAh battery

Dual Surround speakers

more thinly, only one couple millimeters larger and nevertheless a smattering less heavy
[Galaxy S II General] erahk64:
So it's another Mali GPU than in the Quadrant benchmark video if it's true.
[Galaxy S II General] dehem333:
What's Quadrant? :eek:

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
[Galaxy S II General] SamHaLeKe:
ARM website is stating "The Mali-T604 GPU delivers up to 5x performance improvement over previous Mali graphics processors and is scalable up to 4 cores."

This is fitting very well on what Samsung stated and perhaps that's why they are very quiet about there GPU used in Exynos 4210.

Samsung Galaxy S II is a BEAST!
[Galaxy S II General] erahk64:
Mali-400 can have from 1 to 4 cores.

http://www.arm.com/products/multimedia/mali-graphics-hardware/mali-400-mp.php
[Galaxy S II General] SamHaLeKe:
Yupp, my mistake :D

It would still be nice to have the Mali-T604 :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S II General] Androyed:
Off-topic, but WOW. Even if it is also on Wi-Fi, WOW. Incredible... Here in the Netherlands you can at max download 2GB a month, but most data plans are 1GB. We do have unlimited data plans, but they'll call you if you use too much, and too much is considered to be like 2GB here.

I know 1 or 2 GB is a ripoff, but 88GB! I am so jealous.
[Galaxy S II General] Gilg@mesh:
Im waiting for the next NEXUS phone.. only phones that actually worth to have..
[Galaxy S II General] GnillGnoll:
It's a Mali-400MP4.
[Galaxy S II General] Androyed:
True, although I never quite liked the Nexus One. I do like the Nexus S however, and I really hope I'm not going to like the next Nexus phone, so that I can skip that one. I don't want a new phone every year, but I also don't want to get jealous :)
[Galaxy S II General] SamHaLeKe:
Did Samsung officially announced which GPU design it will be based on? Samsung is claiming that Orion's GPU will be up to 5 times faster than the GPU found in Hummingbird!? They did said the graphics unit in Orion is based on the "Mali" design from ARM but not telling witch one. They are very silent about it...:confused:
[Galaxy S II General] Trev186:
Yes for a year I did not pay for internet at home because I was broke. I used the WIFI host spot feature on my phone 9no extra charge). I am barely at home so do not really need a home internet connection.

I however did need to torrent a ton of files so while i was at home I would just let my computer run Bittorrent though my phone's connection.

Tmobile would throttle me after 5 GBs but for some reason I did not get slower Torrent download speeds

People need to realize that as our connections get stronger on our phones having a home internet connection will mean less and less. The fact carriers are moving to tiered plans from unlimited plans is because:

1. They offered Unlimited plans when the mobile internet was so crappy you could barely use 1 GB of data (charge you the max price)

2. now they offer you "cheaper" tiered plans because they are either at max capacity and you are slowing them down or because they know they will charge you significant overage fees.

Sorry for going off topic but yes

Samsung Galaxy S2 looks to be awesome I am truly hoping Tmobile gets it soon but the fact that they are just getting the Samsung 4G worries me...

Makes me think they will take even longer.

I would pay full price for this on Tmobile if I could get it in the March or April
[Galaxy S II General] SamHaLeKe:
Only one Mali-400 GPU core gives

30M tri/s

275Mpix/s to

1.1Gpix/s @ 275MHz

Don't think so. Mali-400 MP Quad Core GPU or Mali-T604.
[Galaxy S II General] MarlowXim:
Its the M400MP straight from there open source tree.

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kern...og;h=9ef83573e9eaa198b4285fe29240a8728dedc0af

5x was the projected speed, if they were operating at 100% clockspeed. I'm not sure what is the maximum, you'll need to look at the manual for the reference board when it is released. But it won't be possible to actually hit 5x. (insert meme here) So no it does not play crysis.

It's a phone first not a mobile gaming platform. The realistic clockspeed the gpu can be operating at is between 200 mhz to 222 mhz. That's theoretically. In comparison the PowerVR SGX 540 was clocked at 200 mhz. It's maximum is 400 mhz. But again it is to reduce power consumption and for stability reasons. I know this because I have overclocked the gpu in my own kernel. The design is samsung inhouse they took a reference design and made a few tweaks, so don't expect it to be as good as the design from Intrinisty who made the hummingbird soc.
[Galaxy S II General] kenvan19:
I've said it before and I'll say it again; any dev for the SGS devices still waiting for official froyo will tell you how much harder their work is without source and how much better they could do with it (not to say they don't do amazing things with what they have). Devices that have official updates will always have more potential than ones that don't. And Samsung supported devices will always fall into the category of ones that don't.
[Galaxy S II General] RADLOUNI:
Galaxy S II....What do you think

Hi Guys

has anyone been able to come up with info on the performance of the galaxy S II. From the scarce videos i see over the internet, the UI smoothness is not better than the galaxy S. Actually, with custom roms (Darky's), the old Galaxy S seemed faster.

Did not feel that the performance reflected a dual core CPU.

Anybody knows what file system is being used, hope it is not RFS

Thanks
[Galaxy S II General] SamHaLeKe:
Soon we will know what speed etc... Thx!
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
it's because 2.3 and 2.4 are not yet Dual core ready

you'll need to wait for the 3.0 AOS upgrade to make full use of Dual Core

Imagine Windows 98 OS running Intel core i7

that's how it's like in the Android world right now

the OS needs to catch up to the hardware

so when AOS 3.0 comes out it'll be like the equivalent of Win2k or XP on core i7
[Galaxy S II General] lucabaldo3:
The Galaxy S II have a Qualcomm Snapdragon 8260 1.2Ghz processor...
[Galaxy S II General] MarlowXim:
I was correct that omap 4 outperforms the Exynos. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4179/ti-omap4-and-lg-optimus-3d-tested

PowerVR sgx540 still remains supreme for the time being.

I don't doubt the os isn't that multithreaded, although the kernel actually has support for it. That aside gpu performance shouldn't be that effected by to much. Since the cpu isn't holding the gpu back when testing opengl.
[Galaxy S II General] lucabaldo3:
Samsung is making great strides lately O_o
[Galaxy S II General] lucabaldo3:
I was fine with my Galaxy S. .. (and I am well now)
[Galaxy S II General] dadyal:
Dual Core CPU WIth Quad GPU On Galaxy S II

Samsung Dual Core Application Processor

Dedicated to speed, Samsung Dual Core Application Processor is

based on Quad GPU and has 3200M pix/s. Clocking at lightening speeds the unrivaled performance of the Dual Core Application Processor provides unsurpassed functionality and density for faster downloads, quicker multi-tasking, a smoother UI, snappier streaming and highly efficient gaming. With encoding/decoding ability that supports video play and recording of all 1080p/30fps makes it no.1 among dual cores.

http://galaxys2.samsungmobile.com/html/feature.html
[Galaxy S II General] SamHaLeKe:
No dude, look few posts back, look google code, etc...

They are most definately using there own Exynos 4210 CPU

Perhaps some models along the same line could be utilizing different CPU in future but that is unconfirmed. Exynos 4210 is already confirmed on SGS II and I am interested :)
[Galaxy S II General] zorxd:
Quad GPU is bull****. All GPUs are multicore. They sometimes have hundreads of cores.
[Galaxy S II General] dadyal:
they will use difrent processer if difrent areas
[Galaxy S II General] dehem333:
So it does outperform the exynos because the score is higher on ONE benchmark on a UNFALINIZIED product?:o

Also doubt if its even noticeable in everyday use
[Galaxy S II General] Intratech:
No! you're wrong.
[Galaxy S II General] lucabaldo3:
Ok, i'm wrong and I'm glad I was wrong because in effect I prefer Exynos CPU :)
[Galaxy S II General] shorty083:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-hands-on_id16729
[Galaxy S II General] cba1986:
Seeung this it seems that Samsung keep RFS. :(

So supercurio start preparing some voodoo magic for the SGS 2.
[Galaxy S II General] ziggazee:
WOW!! This is big guys.. The galaxy s2 has a hdmi output through mini usb, sorry cant post outside link so you will have to add youtube dot com.

/watch?v=ZtwTcnR0hqA
[Galaxy S II General] ziggazee:
MHL supported TV's will even charge you phone while its connected through HDMI and you can use the TV remote control to navigate the galaxys s2 while its connected to your TV. If your TV doesnt support MHL you can buy an adapter that will plug into any TV. Smart choice sammy.. This fone is gonna be awesome.
[Galaxy S II General] erahk64:
There is now info about release date on a Samsung site.

S2 will be released in may according to the swedish site, the release date is probably for Sweden and some other countries.

http://www.samsung.com/se/news/newsRead.do?news_group=productnews&news_ctgry=&news_seq=24275
[Galaxy S II General] MarlowXim:
If it is rfs they seem pretty prideful of their propriety fs. Expect preempt not to work if your a kernel developer. I don't think their learning from their past software mistakes. I know for sure there using onenand as well, not sure if they kept movinand.

Any reason why they chose tegra2 over their own for their tabs? Besides time to market. I'm sure they could of ported in time, they're pretty hush hush about their chip.
[Galaxy S II General] marvinloess:
Samsung Galaxy S II has Dual Surround speakers? :o
[Galaxy S II General] ragin:
Hi,

Detailed specs here :

- http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_ii-3621.php
[Galaxy S II General] dnsp:
I am really disappointed with the materials used. Ok for the front, it's glass, it's ok, but all the rest, the rear, the sides, the bottom looks like very cheap plastic to me. The back reminds me of the bottom of a chocolate box, lol. For such an expensive object one should expect a refined finishing.

Also I found a picture that illustrates very well the differences between Apple's "retina" and the SGS2 display: http://www.mobilecrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/DSC_0258.jpg (at least the PenTile matrix apparently is gone)

Well... we can't have everything...
[Galaxy S II General] erahk64:
Video about HDMI through USB that is used on S2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtwTcnR0hqA
[Galaxy S II General] bsamurai:
Check out the browser speed and landscape/portrait transition effect at [4:30]

[YOUTUBE]p8ZHEALqKoM[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy S II General] vcosmin:
can we hope for a TW 4 port on our Galaxy S's?
[Galaxy S II General] iskrem:
SEXY! Hopefully battery has improved!
[Galaxy S II General] Hero Yu:
Did they forget hdmi out? As long as out still retains tv out I shall buy.
[Galaxy S II General] hanhav:
Maybe read the previous page?
[Galaxy S II General] bilboa1:
the browser seems really smooth even on heavy pages
[Galaxy S II General] Chad_Petree:
these 1080p camera samples were posted on gsm arena , my mind is officially blown :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EljP9_m9KY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgLy0ubZfxE

Too bad the audio is CRAP , hopefully they can fix it by launch :confused:

Btw wasnt the phone suppossed to be available at the end of this month/beginning of march? expansys says: Due Monday 18th April :/
[Galaxy S II General] hiraj_panosian:
All About Phones Says it will be in stores at the begin of may.
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
i'm waiting for more stores to carry it, and to find the lowest price

right now those prices are really scary :p
[Galaxy S II General] shorty083:
I don't mind it being in stores a bit later.

Will give them time to (hopefully) tinker the phone some more.
[Galaxy S II General] Chad_Petree:
may :eek::confused: , and then we have to wait like an extra month for it to drop the OVERPRICE , im sure itll be 700 $ or more at launch :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S II General] uppon2:
Samsung Galaxy S 2 on gsmarena

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_2-3621.php

I am loving the sound of this. Adding everything the phone is lacking. I think I am going to stick to Sammy even though the new Sony and Moto Phones are looking good. HTC Revolver might be good....
[Galaxy S II General] Ti3noU:
Oh yes it would be perfect.. But too good to happen it seems.. Let's hope.
[Galaxy S II General] mazroui:
Hmmm any old i8910hd users here remember how amazing the 8mp cam was,and the gps very fast and amazingly stable locks?
[Galaxy S II General] Tesmond:
Yes I was really upset "upgrading" to the 5mp of the Galaxy S...oh yes the phone software is SO much better but the camera was great (until Sony launched a slightly superior camera, with the same rubbish nokia OS)
[Galaxy S II General] Thread Astaire:
Fanvoys wet dream. Never gonna happen
[Galaxy S II General] lgkahn:
yep still have the phone.. anyone interested in buying it.. gps is great.. it knows which lane you are in onthe hwy. and camera was great.. but video recording audio sucked with noise just like it does in our galaxy s.
[Galaxy S II General] mapas:
Ok I am canceling my valentine plans.

She can go out alone...

I am going out with my new gadget.

PS: Honey, if you are reading this I am just kidding... please don't hurt me...
[Galaxy S II General] Chad_Petree:
i hope youre right and they match the atrix resolution ;)

Dont get your hopes too high for the bootloader the tough , im sure motorola will lock it, just like they did with the droid x and droid 2 :mad:

What i really want is that they just add widgets and apps nad get rid of the atrocious touch wiz
[Galaxy S II General] SEFanX10i:
Rumours are about a 2ghz CPU which means 1ghz dual core(2ghz). Not 2ghz dual core (4ghz)
[Galaxy S II General] Unrealwolf:
Let's just hope that Samsung will forget about updating SGS because of that new phone, well, at least, not instantly.
[Galaxy S II General] cipi055994:
i'm sure there will be a 1,2 ghz processor not 2 ghz. maybe a misstype. also one the expected things will be a xenon flash ( or dual :D ) and a metal body (light metal)
[Galaxy S II General] -A-P-M-:
New info about Galaxy S2:

http://www.gsmarena.com/dualcore_orion_cpu_and_1gb_ram_for_the_galaxy_s2-news-2238.php
[Galaxy S II General] mr_at_sgs:
Looks real. It seems iPhone 5 and Galaxy S2 will have technically similar hardware. This concept has been proven as very successful with Galaxy S, so why not repeating it with its successor. It's very cool to say the hardware is a little bit better as the iPhone 5 ones and it makes the half price.

But they

should not

copycat that iPhone 4 design because it's resulting heavy weight and it's low robustness if it comes to a smashdown at the ground.

PS: Ok, a iPhone 4 is useable for selfdefense ... :p
[Galaxy S II General] JJEgan:
Reputed to have a search button as well .

jje
[Galaxy S II General] betoNL:
Tx I am going to update OP a little bit with this and maybe more links

The word "rumour" is still in the picture.....but not for long, looks like....
[Galaxy S II General] haloimplant:
The picture better not be real it's pretty hideous.
[Galaxy S II General] SheerazRaza:
This is going to be the most versatile phone, with stainless steel body (I assume), and many good features which are missing in Galaxy S.
[Galaxy S II General] cicer0:
I think what he meant was, that it was already posted. In two separate threads.

Here and here.
[Galaxy S II General] My20:
Samsung S2 S3 S4 no thanks the first samsung and no more
[Galaxy S II General] SheerazRaza:
Oh I am sorry, I thought he is talking about the feature :/ but the thread can't be removed now, I guess. :/
[Galaxy S II General] KLoNe1:
Yeah, sounds pretty real to me, and yes, I believe it will look a lot like the iPhone 4G. Once again the iPhone 5 will blow it's design uut of the water, but the Next SGS will still be better to use :)
[Galaxy S II General] zorxd:
It has. 1650 mAh instead of 1500
[Galaxy S II General] hiraj_panosian:
I don't mind either:)

I'm really disappointed with the benchmarks, even our SGS scores better!!!

Oh and on http://www.pdashop.nl the price is €599,- :D which (IMHO) is okay.
[Galaxy S II General] David Sebb:
To all complainin about the phone look:

Thats the base look, how do u imagine it should be looking like ? Almost all new phones have that look and as they get standard with the screen size it will get even more common. I think the Galaxy S2 will be an amazing phone !
[Galaxy S II General] SamHaLeKe:
Back in 2010, the SGS had the same price in the very beginning at pdashop.nl

So the price will be the same, the old SGS will drop very fast, it will soon be a bargain, must sell mine now :p
[Galaxy S II General] dehem333:
It scored 2169 quadrant junkie, whatever that score represents.
[Galaxy S II General] borayman:
for me, screen size bigger than 4.0 is too large to be held by a hand

not to mention the battery issue

if I need big screen I'd rather buy a tablet.....

and it's simply too expensive.....
[Galaxy S II General] dadyal:
overall same timings i think

and there are 2 galaxy s II i9100 and i9103 with( tegra 2)
[Galaxy S II General] habylab:
Um.. it wont be a bargain anytime soon, that's for sure.

Sent from my ever changing Rom (Doc or Darky) Galaxy S
[Galaxy S II General] lgkahn:
is it true will a single galaxy s 2 model work in both u.s.a. and europe.. see link

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_2-3621.php

notice it shows 850 , 900 ,1900 and 2100 3g .. if this is true it will work on att in the usa. and bell canada , south america and europe..

cool.
[Galaxy S II General] Chad_Petree:
I know its a silly question but does it a have a notification led? :confused:
[Galaxy S II General] Meister_Li:
It might just refer to the fact that there will be US and International variants of the Galaxy S II. It'd be cool, tho. I hope they'll dish out a Galaxy S II Epic for the International market this time.
[Galaxy S II General] lgkahn:
except if you check previous phones that is normally not the way gsmarena does it.. they will have separate entries

ie 850 1900 2100

and an entry

900 1900 2100

for instance take a look at the armani version of sgs

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9010_galaxy_s_giorgio_armani-3625.php
[Galaxy S II General] betoNL:
Anyway pdashop.nl is already for a long time not one of the webshops with the lowest prices anymore.

Got my last 2 phones from belsimpel.nl, with the lowest prices and very good service as well...and they have a office here in Groningen as well, so no sending costs for me.
[Galaxy S II General] SamHaLeKe:
That was not my point.

If they ask 599, I know what it will cost for me and it will be around the same price as the former SGS. www.f-mobile.be
[Galaxy S II General] erahk64:
Galaxy S2 is only 2 mm wider and 3 mm longer than Galaxy S which has a 4 inch display, the screen consumes 18 % less energy than previous display according to the link.

http://galaxys2.samsungmobile.com/html/feature.html
[Galaxy S II General] TexUs:
I'm done with Samsung...

People warned about it before SGS release, horror stories came true...

This phone looks legit, don't get me wrong, but like the SGS, if it's too good to be true.......
[Galaxy S II General] shorty083:
You know, I'm really not into the benchmark craze :o , for me it's the real life feel that's important.

From the videos I've seen so far, Samsung still has some smoothing out to do, but that's ok.

Besides, when i first got the sgs I was deeply disappointed, bought the Desire hd 3 months after that.

But thanks to the lagfixes and great custom roms, I couldn't be more happy with my phone (aside from gps)

and the DHD was send back within 2 weeks, because camera/sound quality etc. was a let down.

That's about €50 more then I've paid for my sgs, so I find the price reasonable.