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[HD2 Android SD Development] Yank555:
Don't ask me if I did my readings too soon after resarting, or if I just had to switch off BT for a while (previous testing yesterday evening) before turning it on again, but I'm stable at around 10mA in stand-by now !! :confused:

So the SD format did make the deal afterall ?! :D

Always, never dare de devil :cool:

Will give the kernel a try nonetheless, changing a kernel should be easier than patching one :o I'm really new to Android (though not Linux/UNIX), only been playing with Android for 2 weeks now, but I'm willing to learn ;)

Regards, JP.
[HD2 Android SD Development] CROrION:
Just dual booted new wersion with WP7, works gr8, will donate, thanks!

Keep up the good work!
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
Thanks for the coffee my friend :D it keep me awake :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Nigeldg:
Also, If you aren't using it already, using JuiceDefender (market) and SetCPU (here on XDA) makes a massive difference.
[HD2 Android SD Development] cariocap:
mccmjoon76 told us to not use SetCPU with Hastarin kernel.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mastered000:
Is there a way to remove programma like google talk or other programs like adobe?
[HD2 Android SD Development] CROrION:
There is only one thing that anoys me: When I unlock screen it sometimes takes 3-5 seconds to get me to unlock screen, any way to speed that up?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Nigeldg:
Sorry, didn't mean to cause any confusion. You should listen to him of course, but I can say that I had no issues with running this build overclocked to 1.536 Ghz. All seemed fine to me.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Yank555:
JuiceDefender is always installed :cool:

As for SetCPU, as stated by cariocap, this seems not such a good idea on this kernel ...

Since you're also using JuiceDefender, is the CPU controll in JuiceConstroller some kind of implementation of SetCPU ? (which I'm not using for above mentioned reason).

JP.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Yank555:
Hi again,

Bad news, my standby has increased to ~60mA in the meantime (5 hours) :(

I've switched off BT again and will see if it's going back down...

UPDATE 1 :

BT off and still around 60mA :-( Now rebooting, and checking again...

UPDATE 2 :

After reboot and BT on, I'm back to ~8mA in stand-by... Hmm :confused:

UPDATE 3 :

Won't keep stable, it's back at ~60mA, with BT on or off, no matter what :(

JP.

PS: Haven't tried the other kernel yet, lack of time...
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
Install Hastarin 8.6 wakeup lagfix kernel :

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16777033&postcount=717
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
If u try all the trick on the Book and u still can't solved the drain problem 'HARD RESET' the WM Rom ;)

Or u can try this kernel_hieros_v1.7.4 ~ i'm not try it yet 'Do it on your own risk :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1233125

1)Unzip

2)Boot to WM or use Card reader copy the 'root' folder into 'Android' folder

3)Boot back to Android ..Done

Remember backup your Build before u done this . Goodluck.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Yank555:
Hi,

Given HierOS kernel a try, here are my findings ...

I tried HierOS 1.7.4, Android booted, but speed was really not good, WiFi wasn't functioning ("Error" displayed when activating), an drain was unchanged :-(

JP.
[HD2 Android SD Development] drsulley:
Hi,

This rom is really stable & smooth. But only one thing is not working is the 'Locations' widget. It always fails to connect to the server when I try to download the files. Furthermore, my HD2 fails to work with the Hastarin 8.6 wakeup lagfix kernel.

WM OzDROID ROM

Radio 2.15.50.14

Adata 16 Gb class10
[HD2 Android SD Development] Yank555:
Oh no, not reinstalling and configuring all my porgramms in WinMo from scratch !! :eek: :eek: :eek: Just kidding :D But I'd rather not go there unless I'm sure there's no way around it...

Since I'm by nature the rather impatient kind, I guess I tend to rush to conclusions too fast, or at least won't give things the necessary time to stabilize ;)

So far I seem to have nailed it down to BT.

If I keep BT off for a while, drain in standby drops to ~8mA. If I switch it on, it will stay there for some time (10-30 minutes as far as I can tell after 1 day of tests), but eventually go back up to ~60mA...

I'm now testing the other way around. Now had 6-8mA stabilized in standby for over 15 minutes. I've just switched BT on again, still at 6mA. I'll keep you posted how it works out after some time.

UPDATE :

Hmm ... I'm confused, it kept steady below 10mA for several hours this time :confused: And I even connected via Bluetooth to pair the phone to my car's handsfree !

OK, I guess this will need a little further investigation ... will keep you posted in a few days (I'm off abroad, not sure there'll be a WiFi around...).

JP.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
Nice... Hastarin 8.6 still the best !
[HD2 Android SD Development] Nemesis2k9:
Is there a way to get stock sense battery icon? without percentage icon?
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
Here u go ....

Unzip

1)Boot WM or use card reader

2)Copy 'root' folder into 'Android' folder

3)Boot to Android

Done
[HD2 Android SD Development] yourender2:
Hello MCCM

Have any update plan for your any build?
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
No just yet.. specially the HD build . Proud to say that this build already getting very stable for daily used . My beta testers will using it for weeks now without any issue :D

As for other build sense 2.1 and 3.0 will update it after BoxmaX and i figure out the fix on like Camcorder and glitches issue ....
[HD2 Android SD Development] Nemesis2k9:
I must say this ROM made me realise how much I missed sense UI. I love it, can't wait for the gingerbread versions to become more stable. The only problem I have with this ROM is that I am getting a 60ma battery drain and that is preventing me from making it through the day. Gonna mess around some more and see if I.can find out why.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Nigeldg:
Scroll a few pages back. Someone also had this issue and there are many possible solutions, so try some of them.
[HD2 Android SD Development] cariocap:
Hi mccmjoon76,

I would like to see a build without sense.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
Without Sense for me just like u not using a HTC he he ..:D

And on SD thread already have many of without Sense Build... Goodluck.
[HD2 Android SD Development] cariocap:
I dont know why but I tried to make a few calls to home and they cant listen to me. Tried to power off/on without sucess.

Have to remove battery to fix it.

Just to let you know
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
Strange... Never happen here... Make sure your leo radio is 2.15** see my sign..
[HD2 Android SD Development] Nemesis2k9:
Man I have tried everything and the battery drain is still there. Really love this ROM but if I don't find a fix for this I may have to go back to another ROM:(
[HD2 Android SD Development] kajos:
Try Android Loader v6.0 in winmob, using option "softreset-boot"

It fix the 60mA issue for me:)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=733752
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
Try hard reset the WM ROM. Just use spb backup to backup the contacts , email. But not all the apps..because perhaps some of the setting in WM get u have higher drain on Android ..goodluck.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
Good one :D perhaps it's can help. Thx man.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Nemesis2k9:
Will do. Will report back later.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Masterslice:
After spending the whole weekend installing my HD2 with the new WP7 Mango ROM from Yuki and XBmod, which works fine, i tried once again installing this ROM on a other SDcard. Because i want Android for some Apps which dont work or are not released under WP7.

The first look as the last try from this ROM seems fast and good, i activate Wifi and it still works! I dont know why, because on my last try it didnt work! And i tried some things to fix it. On this install it works from the beginning on.

My only problem now is, my calender from Exchange will not sync! First i got an error and the second try was i saved a new date on the phone in my exchange calender. But the other dates are not synced on the phone.

I dont know why, but i will check for it.

Thanx mccmjoon76 for this ROM! :cool:
[HD2 Android SD Development] mastered000:
I have a big bug with navigation. I never get en GPSfix.

If i use GPSfix ( free market ) No fix. If i turn it off always GPS icon blinking till reboot.

If i use Sygic ( payed ) No fix. If i turn it off always GPS icon blinking till reboot.

If i use TomTom in WM every think oke.

What can i do to fix it or is it only me?

I use: Radio 2.15.50.14 WM OzDroid 2.0 MccM 6.0

Edit: Locations and Car Panel never work with fresh install. ( I alway delete AndroidApps ) Get error: Unable to connect to the server.
[HD2 Android SD Development] kajos:
Try to install this fix from tytung:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1100114

- power off (Build/Android/HD2)

- extract the attached file

- put the root-folder into Android-folder on SD

- boot

If it doesn't fix that issue, you've to format SD and making a new setup.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mastered000:
This works great for icon problem and get fast fix now, but have lag now. The phone works slow now. Sygic works but turn screen to slow. So i think need to be tweakt.

But For the ROM cooker it fix the icon problem on the topic you can read how to fix it for your ROM.
[HD2 Android SD Development] kajos:
Try fix permissions in rom manager app

(and always "power off", not "reboot"...)
[HD2 Android SD Development] mastered000:
It work great now.

The software oke 100% good fix. But me stupit Sygic work fast now. ( I did wrong input battery management. )

But still "Location and Car panel" don't work still " Unable to connect to the server."

Try fix permissions in rom manager app

(and always "power off", not "reboot"...)

Then i get error "An error occurred while attemptingto run privileged commands."
[HD2 Android SD Development] kajos:
Has RomManager got root-rights?

I've never had this issue:(
[HD2 Android SD Development] mastered000:
I delete AndroidApss from root ( forgot the name but dir with the APK files ) i think i need 1 file from it?
[HD2 Android SD Development] fatballj:
Thank you for your file. I have tried GPS lib 2.1, 2.0, 1.9. However, I can't experience the fast fix. It still take over a minute or more to fix the position with MCCM V6. However, when I applied 1.9 on RAFDROID HD 4.2|the change is really obvious and it could be fixed within 20 seconds. Could you or anyone, who can experience fast fix by application of GPS lib, share his gps.conf file so that I could learn what wrong with it?

Also, could anyone share which app could properly control CPU frequency on MCCM V6 with kernel Hastarin 8.6 without affecting its stability? Just want to let it "slower" and generate less heat and use less battery.

Thank you.
[HD2 Android SD Development] kajos:
may be the reason - i don't know:confused:
[HD2 Android SD Development] kajos:
I belief, the reason is not the/different lib.

Try formating SD and new setup, only using your existing dat.img and Titaniumbackup-folder...and the GPS2.1 root-folder for the first boot;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] mastered000:
Other thing i use now a Scandisk 16gb class 4 it's must faster and stable then my Transcend 16gb class 6 read 15mb/s write 13mb

If i use in phone the transcend sd all feels slow and not fast.

If i use it on the pc damm fast.

I get alot delay's in programs and the unlocking must wait 5 a 10 second and moste time 2 time i can unlock it.

Alot of usser have this card and it's fast i get a new one but the same.

What can ben the problem?
[HD2 Android SD Development] kajos:
Your observations are well-known:D

Look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1150369

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1048649

Random Write 4KB ist most important for running Android on SD;)

- and in this SandDisc class2/4 are top
[HD2 Android SD Development] fatballj:
thank you very much. Will try tomorrow.

By the way, do you know is it save to remove rom manger before first installation? I don't know whether is it useful for SD rom build.
[HD2 Android SD Development] fatballj:
Hi All,

I am just finding a way to let my phone last longer. Therefore, I go to hastarin r8.6's thread to search for the result. Just at his 1st thread, I found a patch Undervolt 925mV under the heading "Use this at your own risk".:eek: I have just installed it to see if there is any difference.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=787588

For those newbies on Andorid (like me), may try on it to see if it could last longer without an extra battery and adverse effect. I hope this could make this perfect rom more perfect. :D
[HD2 Android SD Development] kajos:
I don't know like that, so I use fix permissions in Rom Manager sometimes, for example: if I've force close messages or random reboots...so it's useful for me even in SD-Builds;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] mastered000:
I read i can't use SetCPU what can i use?

Can i use OverclockWidget?
[HD2 Android SD Development] redman8x8:
FYI

Hi Guys,

I just made a few tweaks that made my phone always stay in the 5-8mA range when screen off, here's what i did.

1. In the included Taskiller app, i enabled the option "Autokill when screen off"

2. I installed "Startup Auditor" from the market and disabled from startup all the non necesary apps...(only the extra ones i installed on the rom, not the default ones!)

3. I added the Bluetooth and GPS shortcut to my homescreen, it turned out that some of my gps apps (most probably) were turning on gps from time to time...and because there was no gps indicator icon on top..i never knew it was on. :)

4. I disabled all the animations..really liked them..but i prefer the faster response over the fancy animations.

The result?

2 Days with rock solid battery consumption..always between 5-8mA (measured with "Current Widget" from Market)

Hope this info helps someone else to fix the power drains.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
Cool :D thanks for sharing your battery drain issue , surely it would help others..

Will post up the link on post 2 . Thx man ..
[HD2 Android SD Development] hektoras:
Hello everybody,

I installed last night this version of Android on my HD2. I must say that this is my first attempt to have Android on my phone.

Anyway after a few hours of testing everything work great, except my Data Connection. I can't browse on the internet or connect to any application using data connection, although the phone tells me that has internet connection.

I didn't do any manual settings on the phone because from the first boot it had already set the APN for Internet and MMS according to my network.

I have no problem connecting to internet, browse or applications, using WIFI.

I tried powering OFF and ON the phone > No result

If u have any ideas that i can try please reply.

Thx in advance.
[HD2 Android SD Development] fatballj:
I have used the patch for a day. Although it did save the battery and the usage never go over 400ma, the patch seems affected the data connection so I am now preparing for fresh instalation again:(.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
Try this : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1237092
[HD2 Android SD Development] Appelsap:
battery issues

In the past I've had the battery drain issue with V4, and left Android for a while to stay with Windows Mobile. Tried V6 recently, seems a very stable rom, everything works, but booting from within WM6.5 I still had the same battery drain many people complain about.

Disabling all network connections and sense in WM6.5 before booting into Android was no succes: wifi and HSDPA/3G refused to work after that, even in Android. Turning it all back on in WM6.5 and then booting into Android solved the connection problem, but not the battery drain. It seems to me it does matter in what state WM6.5 is before booting Haret and going into Android, and could explain the drain.

So yesterday I decided to give Android a serious try, made a backup of WM6.5 and then loaded MAGLDR onto the device. Reinstalled Android from scratch, and the past hours the drain has been around 4 mA with the screen off (and auto sync disabled). So for now it seems much better, I'm hoping it stays that way.
[HD2 Android SD Development] jpl69:
I have problems with this to, should it be due to kernel ? or somethig is missing on rom ?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Yank555:
Seems a way I am willing to go as well... are you running Android from the internal memory or still from the SD card ?

By the way, what kind of backup did you do ?

I had the drain under control for a few days, but it's up again :mad:

I'd probably take the risk, if I'd know for sure the drain issue can be solved this way...

Please keep us posted of your findings !! ;)

JP.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Appelsap:
I decided to run Android from the SD card still. All the NAND roms seem to be compromises, due to the lack of space in the NAND on the HD2, and very little - if any - have Sense still in it. And I really like Sense. Furthermore it'll be easier to update Android without having to flash the HD2 all the time - just pop the SD card in a cardreader and Bob's your uncle.

I made two backups: first I synced my calendar and contacts with a google account using activesync, so I could then import then (sync) in Android easily. Works well. I made a second full PIM backup using the standard PIM backup tool in the custom nrg-rom, knowing I'd go back to that very same ROM if it all doesn't work out. I already have all my fav programs in a backup folder for re-installation, which I think is better than using a full system backup.

I'll keep you posted. So far, the drain is 4 - 6 mA when not in use. Just turned on BT to see what impact that will have.
[HD2 Android SD Development] fatballj:
For your information, I am using SD build. I switch off sense from "Today" plug in, change to airlphane mode, and install andorid loader. Reboot and load andorid automatically.

The issues were

(1) very hot when browsing with 3g data.

(2) battary drain is high when in use. (sometime come up to over 600ma)

(3) due to issue 2, when peforming the background job at screen off. it drain quite a lot battary.

(4) GPS lib seems not work well for me even though I have reinstall it. It still take over a minute to fix.

Except the above problems, it still work fast and stable. So, I keep using it.

As I want to keep Garmin for Win 6.5, I still keep wm6.5 as my rom. When mango is stable, may be it is a time to move.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Appelsap:
After about 2 hours with BT on and the device in standby, drain is still 4-5 mA. So far so good.

It is remarkable that so far the drain has been mostly by the display (65%!), whereas I've only had the display on for about 1 hour and 15 minutes. I'm guessing there is a serious power issue with the display drivers, and it'd be very interesting to see that fixed.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Yank555:
Same conclusion on my end, I really like the easiness of backup / restore by just copying some files ;-) And with several cards, it's easy to test different things without braking your "daily" OS ;)

I've put a lot of work into customizing my WinMo, I'd rather not have to go through that again :(

How does MAGLDR work exactly, does it boot Android straight away, or does WinMo need to start before Android can be started ?

Since I've read that WinMo does partially "start" devices ... so I assume WinMo need to be started somehow ?

On the other hand, I'd believe that an OS should be able to handle the hardware all by itself...

That sounds great ! I wish it stays that way, I've had a joyfull WE, and then the drain was back again :(

I can confirm that this is what I also saw, so I tended to use manual configuration and kept the backlight as dim as possible. All that did was to be inconvenient for me, but it didn't really change battery life. In the end I switched back to auto backlight, and I found battery life to be quite good in fact, not an issue to me at least, since after 16h I still had 61% battery left.

JP.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mccmjoon76:
Guys if u all don't want to lose the WM settings and still want to boot Android build but got high battery drain issue ... Try this

Backup all the settings using spb backup to sd card.

1)Hard reset the WM Rom.

2)Using spb backup restoring the contact only.

3)Boot to Android

4)The battery drain problem supports to solved.

5)If not, u always can boot back to WM and using spb backup restored all the settings..

6)If yes.. that's mean the WM settings that cause the high battery drain issue .

Goodluck.

Edit: I try the above method on my WM Rom. Untill now no high battery issue.. 5 to 6 ma only on standby mode..
[HD2 Android SD Development] Appelsap:
MAGLDR boots right after SPL, so you get your rom splash screen for about 2 secs, then MAGLDR takes over. This is why after installing MAGLDR, WinMo will no longer work. Anyway, you get a menu where you can select how to boot into Android (NAND or SD), and which folder Android is in. Select it, and the next time it will use that automatically (unless you keep pressing the power-button, which will bring you back into the MAGLDR menu if you want to change something). It's real easy.

WinMo is completely bypassed, that's why I decided to give MAGLDR a try. Works well so far. After every use turning the screen off, it will go back to 4-6 mA. I've even rebooted, it's still that low.

Turning the backlight down doesn't help at all, I've noticed that too. It's not the brightness, but the screen is eating way too much power when it's on. I hope that issue can be fixed, because then it'll be just like I bought a new Android phone. Yummy ;)

edit: I've had the screen on for 1,5 hours today, and am now at 42% batterylife (it's been on for 12h now). According to the battery monitor it accounts for 75% of all powerconsumption.
[HD2 Android SD Development] wigwam12:
I have installed this today and generally am impressed with how responsive it seems.

Just some queries though:

I can't find the vibrate/silent option son the boot menu when you press the power button?

Also the HTC wallpapers when I go to select another one all I see is the "preview" icon but the wallpaper is not actually displayed ( i mean when you click on "HTC wallpapers" and it should display all the options) - why is what?

As an aside can anyone recommend a nice colourful power-options widget? The black&white one ruin the nice colourful setup
[HD2 Android SD Development] Appelsap:
Well, so far so good. Loaded V6 with MAGLDR, no unusual settings applied and after a day of only very light use (screen on time 20 mins, standby for 12 hours), using around 4-6 mA in standby, I'm now at 70% batterylife. Not as good as WinMo was, but definately useable for everyday use.

@MccMjoon76 : Great work, this ROM. Everything works out of the box, really super. And it's very fast too, and stable. Thanx man!

The 20 mins of screen on time still acounts for 27% of the power drain. If there's a way to fix that, I'd be veeerrry greatful. Where's that donate button? ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Yank555:
Well I must say, as of now my HD2 graced me with low drain again, I have a feeling I'm going further with Android than with WinMo. I've BT always on on WinMo as well as on Adroid. I think it is JuiceDefender that is doing a good Job of enabling/disabling things when I don't need them.

From what I found out in the meantime, the drain is coming from GPS rather than BT ... :confused:

I will look further into that...

Amen to that :cool:

Could you just please test one last thing for me ? Try to establish a VPN connection through mobile data (not WiFi) and check if the connection works. I get the connection, but it's not usable though when connecting through mobile data. When I connect using WiFi on the other Hand, it works just fine !

I've used Android's WiFi hotspot and connected my TF101 to the Internet through the shared Internet connection using mobile data. VPN from the TF101 worked just fine, so the provider blocking protocols ... is not an issue :(

Thanx, JP.