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[Captivate Android Development] airtower:
For all you OC/UV fans out there, I noticed something today. Nothing empirical, but I think it's worth throwing out here.

For some reason, I've always considered setCPU to a sort of gold standard when it came to managing OC/UV. In the past I had tried Control Freak and Voltage Control in parallel, but preferred the interface of setCPU and figured they all did the same thing so no need for the other.

This was until I flash talonDEV 0.4.1-1440 and noticed massive instability with UV. It lock up with even the slightest bit of UV at any frequency. It would handle 1.44 ghz OC most of time however I would get superlag sometimes and the phone would get quite hot (so laggy I could not even pull up OSmonitor, so I don't know if it's related to kswapd). I had read on a few other kernel threads that they recommended using anything BUT setCPU so I uninstalled it and installed Voltage Control.

Well for what it's worth, I am now running the most aggressive UV settings I've ever tried and can't force the thing to reboot/lockup if I wanted it to. VC interface is a lot nicer now, so I am a happy camper.

So in short, if you've stuck with setCPU for any reason I'd try either Voltage Control or Control Freak if you're having stability problems or notice you must run significantly higher voltages on 0.4.1.
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
Control Freak .5b has controls for GPU overclock (depends on kernel support).

Those having lag on talon, what control program were you using? Control Freak, Voltage Control, set CPU, or other?
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
I'm don't OC/UV, but used Voltage Control EX to change the scheduler to vr, again, no lag at all.

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Apex 8.2
[Captivate Android Development] killer_raj:
just a quick question...

i m already using 8.2 with default kernel talon...

can i just flash darkcore kernel with the help of odin to check the diff...or i hav to flash the rom also after flashin the kernel...

and wanna know..what do i do to revert back if i dont like darkcore...and wanna come back to talon..

just for the info..if it does affect...i hav diabled lagfix..from cwm..
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
Just flash with odin over the rom, no need to reflash it, if you don't like Dark Core you go to the talon thread, and download Talon 0.4.1 from the links given, then flash the zip over DarkCore using cwm :)

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Apex 8.2
[Captivate Android Development] watsa:
Yep you can use ODIN to flash DC over your current setup. Incase you need Talon back there is a CWM flashable file at Talon' thread for 0.4.1
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
@watsa did Apex ever include an analog clock widget? I can't find it :( (don't remember if it was Continuum or Apex :o)

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Apex 8.2
[Captivate Android Development] watsa:
There are 10,000 digital clocks in 8.2 but no analog clock :(
[Captivate Android Development] killer_raj:
thanx will do that and will update my review...

as of now i m happy with the battery backup...did hav lil lag...but as froli said before..one cant hav everything...feature if GB custom rom..and smoothness of stock...
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
Alright, just wanted to make sure :P
[Captivate Android Development] killer_raj:
as far as i remember..i never saw analog clock even on apex 5.3...i think watsa isnt a big fan of analog clock... :p
[Captivate Android Development] watsa:
There is one more digital clock in 8.3 :(
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
Lol no problem xD

I'll be waiting for that one ;)

Thanks man :D

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Apex 8.2
[Captivate Android Development] watsa:
you are gonna hate it :(
[Captivate Android Development] killer_raj:
somebody mentioned abt some video recording problem at 720...

will u guys pls enlighten me abt that..coz when i go to my camera video recording..i see all the option...1280/720...720/480 and so on...

and 2nd question..when i go to download talon's kernel...i see lot of option..which one shd i download for next flash after darkcore..right now i hav default which came with 8.2 apex..and i saw my ram is 340 mb...
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
Hell I do xD

Still wanna try it :D

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Apex 8.2
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
These people with 720 p recordin issues downloaded the SECOND OR FOURTH file in the list (Bigmem versions) If you want those extra Mb, but lose 720p, download them.

The first couple are No Overclocking versions, if you want to Overclock, download either the 3rd or 4th, the apex default is the first one (340 mb, no OC).
[Captivate Android Development] killer_raj:
thanx for the info...

now the update...after flashin darkcore kernel...

it took few sec for flashin..

afterthe flash..i was expecting it will take lot of time for boot..but it didnt...took few secs and i was on my home lockscreen....while booting..no talon logo...(obviously its darkcore..but they just put i897bootscreen...)

dunnoo whats diff in this..but after the boot..my screen was brighter than before...i was wondering..may be it changed my display brightness settin..but when i went to check...it was same as before...TO THE MINIMUM....

the most weird part was...when i connected my phone to flash my phone..i had around 47% batt...and after the flash it was showin 56 %.....obviously within the time period...that my phone was connected to my pc for flashin..it didnt charge my phone by 10%,,,

and then then i went to flash the honeycomb lockscreen with crysis lock....then in recovery i found white cwm instead of orange...

this time after this flash boot took lil extra time...and yes..in this cwm..its not able to see my files from my external sd card..then i had to zip file to the internal sd card..then i flashed...

this is it for now...will update the batt backup and rest of the usage by 12 to 24 hours...
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
What do you expect from the WORST rom in the world :)
[Captivate Android Development] tkjeeper:
Yeah, darkcore is known for it's brightness, if it's to much for you there are screen filters on the market for night viewing. It's an awesome kernel, imo.

Sent from the frozen tundra known as Canada.
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
Darkcore kernel is awesome for me. Getting better battery life than talon with giant UV. Brightness is a tad too high for me though, but I can live with it.
[Captivate Android Development] killer_raj:
i know abt the screen filters..but i m fine with it.infect i like it..coz with amoled screen ...bright screen is better...as long as it doesnt eat up my batt....

lol...so u also flashed darkcore...!!! when????

well yes its playin lil faster than talon as of now...but its lil too early to say anythin...

and any comment on..that in cwm ..it wasnt able to find my files on external sd card..which i kept for flashin...it said no files found... WHY???

but in talon i did try the same thing..it worked..shd i post this on darkcore forum so they can work on it...

and yes...froli an watsa....in live wallpaper..when i try to see the preview of or want to set microbes live wallpaper..it isnt working for me...just FYI.....
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
I downloaded it again and Got it working, however it gets a bit stuck when the screen is unlocked.... So I forgot about it.

Since everyone says DarkCore is amazing, I flashed it again, last time I only gave it a day and a night so perhaps I didn't do it justice, so I'll see how it goes with some tweaking.

But damn I miss voodoo color!

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Apex 8.2
[Captivate Android Development] killer_raj:
well i can download that too..i know..but i just informed them..so they can rectify the file..or remove it from the rom..

this way one by one..this rom will be flawless :)
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
Cool :P

Meanwhile let me reccommend you a newer version of Nexus LP (maybe can also be included in the rom :o)

And almost a Microbes equivalent :P... If u haven't already got it of course.

View attachment NexusSLWP.apk.zip

EDIT: The little lag I described before on microbes upon unlock with DarkCore is gone...sweet! :D
[Captivate Android Development] dngen:
Is it normal to be using 280/340MB of RAM? I don't remember Froyo using so much memory.
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
Yes it is normal. Android system is using most of free memory so everything is faster, but if an app needs more memory, the system will release some memory for the said app. Same as linux systems.
[Captivate Android Development] contentryder:
Is there any way I can change the dial pad (dialer) sound? It sounds like water drops instead of the actual dial pad sound from a standard telephone dial pad...

Thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] ccheung:
Is 8.3 coming in a couple of days? I'm using 7.3 and planning to flash 8.2. If 8.3 is coming, I can wait a couple mroe days and flash the latest.
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
Yep coming soon, but I don't know yet if it will be a wipe release or non-wipe.

edit: New MattedBlues version coming at the same time too.
[Captivate Android Development] WickedNite:
What's new on 8.3?

Sent from my Captivate
[Captivate Android Development] DustinDD:
Is there any way to make the home button take you to the center page instead of the first in the touchwiz launcher?
[Captivate Android Development] aintwaven:
I can try the same settings, and same modem as Apex on other GB roms, but the gps does not compare. Apex has by far the best gps in my area.
[Captivate Android Development] Uncle Irish:
Day 3 of testing 8.2 with RFS on DarkCore 2.9

Woke up this morning after a night of pool and beer to find my phone charged and ready to go. Started making a few texts, etc, then the hone seized up like an old ford escort. No response to any buttons at al, power settings menu took around 2 minutes to pop up. Finally got OS monitor up and saw kwapd again treating my CPU like a hooker from a Quentin Tarantino film - %81 usage!

3 Button reboot resolved the issue and things are rosey again. Using the Talon kernel and EXT4 I never had this issue or the slowdowns that I have experienced with the DarkCore and RFS. I'm doing this only for testing because some are saying they get extreme lag. Took 3 days for it to happen, but it's been extreme both times. I'm going back to default 8.2 with Talon/EXT4 ater today (unless 8.3 is coming soon to a theater near me :cool: )
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
Why testing RFS? Use Dark Core and EXT4 and you'll be fine.

Using RFS on your phone instead of EXT4 is like using FAT16 on you windows computer instead of NTFS...
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
Spreading KILLER app brought to my attention by h3llstorm... Autokiller Memory Optimizer in market...seems like more of a lmk adjuster than task killer..keeps ram use at bay...giver a whirl....i use optimum or strict preset..ram use stays between 260-275

Sent from my Apex Blue 2.3.4 Ext4 equipped Samsung Captivate.
[Captivate Android Development] Uncle Irish:
Yea, I agree. Was just doing some testing to ee how different configurations act different ways. Best setup for me is exactly the way Apex installs. Just had to see if I could silence a few critics, thats all.
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
I love talon, but gave DC a try and I am loving it. I get way better battery life even if I don't UV like crazy like I was used too with talon. I have to say that talon is way faster at stock clock with a little GPU OC on the 1000mhz step though.
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
Cant even try DC. Cant live without voodoo color.

Sent from my Apex Blue 2.3.4 Ext4 equipped Samsung Captivate.
[Captivate Android Development] eep2378:
What launcher were you using when it "seized up"? I'm on DC with Arc launcher on RFS(my phone likes it better) and never had any hangups/lag.
[Captivate Android Development] eep2378:
UV with DC? I thought DC kernel did not support UV?
[Captivate Android Development] justin860:
What is the modem used for this rom? I dont have it flashed so i cant look in the about phone section
[Captivate Android Development] eep2378:
It comes with KC1 modem.
[Captivate Android Development] TheQat:
The "Custom App" option is greyed out on my Apex 8.2. I ran down the whole list of lockscreens just to see (though I don't know if anything other that MIUI can use it) and it was greyed out for all lockscreens.

Did I miss a tweak somewhere?
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
It don't. I said I don't UV like crazy with DC like I would usualy do with talon.
[Captivate Android Development] eep2378:
oh ok my bad. I thought you said even if you don't uv like you used to with talon(implying that you could of uv'ed on DC). :p
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
It is only for the MIUI lockscreen.
[Captivate Android Development] TheQat:
Correct. I have the MIUI lockscreen enabled. I rather like it. But for some reason I can't choose the custom app, so I have a button that causes a phone reboot on my lockscreen :)
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
Then it means you probably installed a theme that is not compatible with it. Am I right?
[Captivate Android Development] Uncle Irish:
Battery has been phenomenal on DC. I use my phone all day for almost everything and I pull 15 avg. now. FOr me, that's incredible. No OC/UV at all, just stock everything. Talon was a lil quicker, but I needed the extra life, so it's a worthwhile trade off for me.

I stick about 270-280 mem usage so I'm good for the most part. I do kill some tasks with Go Launcher mem manager though when I am not using it any longer. I have never had any luck with task manager/killers. I bounce between a lot of apps and such throughout the day, so I don't know how well it would work in my case. Keep testing and let us know how this one is though.

Was using Go launcher when it froze both times. Never had this prob with Go though. It's been solid for me.
[Captivate Android Development] TheQat:
Well, I'm running stock 8.2 theme but did install the Crysis battery mod from http://apexrom.weebly.com/apex-battery-mods.html

So I put the 8.1 framework-res.apk back in place (the only file modified by the Crysis Apex Battery theme)

This reverted the battery "theme" but the Custom App is still greyed out.

I could try a totally clean 8.2 flash (I did do the 8.0 base -> 8.1 update -> 8.2 update) which shouldn't cause problems.. but I guess you never know.
[Captivate Android Development] Uncle Irish:
Speaking of themes... I heard about a matted orange. Is this true? I'd love to run some orangeness
[Captivate Android Development] Uncle Irish:
No need to start from scratch, just flash the 8.2 update
[Captivate Android Development] TheQat:
Looks like I spoke to soon. I went back to the lockscreen selector after a few minutes and now I can edit the custom app.

So it seems applying a battery mod from the Apex site renders the "theme" incompatible for purposes of miui lockscreen.
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
Already mentioned in the post: 1h 13m 17s

Not heavy usage, but for me it's a pretty good uptime! :P
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
No please! Keep it blue, don't give up! :D
[Captivate Android Development] watsa:
here is what i have achieved so far

and i hate it

need better battery and notification icons then maybe i would like it
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
Take a look at the attached icons.

The dialer looks great!
[Captivate Android Development] Vivified:
Have you tried the UOT Kitchen?
[Captivate Android Development] kimocal:
I'm on 4.3 now but I know if I update my sig you'll update to 4.4, lol.
[Captivate Android Development] dizx:
Why did I know you were going to say that? Lol.
[Captivate Android Development] watsa:
thanks for telling... 4.4 coming up :p
[Captivate Android Development] Vivified:
This red is looking slick, I'll send you some screens of my homescreen soon. I'm editing the colors of the icons I use to fit the theme, already colorized my dock icons red =)
[Captivate Android Development] dizx:
You one crazy mofo.
[Captivate Android Development] kimocal:
Sig updated. Bring on 4.4 :cool:
[Captivate Android Development] dizx:
It's not bad, but I think it needs to be a shade or two darker.
[Captivate Android Development] bobapunk:
If I can make a small suggestion. Take the Icons from the "Matted Blue" theme and rework your blue color to match.
[Captivate Android Development] aite97:
help!!! when i try to intsall it it says that it cant open it, that its bad wtf please help!!:confused::eek:
[Captivate Android Development] watsa:
i would need a little more information, like what steps u are following
[Captivate Android Development] aite97:
well i odined to jf6, rooted, got rommanager, then i ranamed the thing to update.zip, nd then i rebooted into cwm, then i tried to install it and it didnt work
[Captivate Android Development] watsa:
were u in green CWM recovery when u were doing this or blue 2e recovery?
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
And what error message did you get??
[Captivate Android Development] aite97:
i got a green one

and the err message was

E:Cant open/sdcard/sd/update.zip

(bad)

Installation aborted.

:confused:
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
Re-download the ROM and do not rename ROM to update.zip!! Simply click on install file from sd card or something similar and select the ROM.
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
Yep, I plan to do it. Don't know when I'll start though :p

There's no framework or SystemUI change in 8.2

It shouldn't because every apex theme is based on same framework. It's probably the reboot that helped.
[Captivate Android Development] monoespacial:
I'm experiencing lag only when launching Contacts, Phone or Messaging apps. Will changing the kernel affect this or is this normal?
[Captivate Android Development] froli13:
Are you using MattedBlues theme?
[Captivate Android Development] monoespacial:
No, standard TW Launcher.
[Captivate Android Development] contentryder:
i switched from given talon kernel to darkcore and the lag was gone...it was major lag in rfs and ext4 in talon kernel for some reason.
[Captivate Android Development] monoespacial:
Nice to hear... not sure how to do it though. The file posted is a .tar. Do I have to repack the Rom zip file or what?

Thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] Uncle Irish:
reboot to download mode, open ODIN, place the TAR file in the PDA slot and flash it.
[Captivate Android Development] contentryder:
Yea, use the ODIN from Apex Flasher if you can't find it. It's on his website.
[Captivate Android Development] dc5ftw:
so im guessing when flashing DC kernel. that doesnt clear dalvik cache right? since everybody are saying the boot up time was fast.
[Captivate Android Development] monoespacial:
Thank you both! I was able to flash the kernel and it's now working much better!
[Captivate Android Development] Barsky:
Not sure why but all 8.x version were rebooting on me. Tried a couple different kernels. No change. So I slapped 7.3 back on and problems gone. Think I will sit on this until 8.3 or 8.4.
[Captivate Android Development] pwnerman:
u should wipe the cache and dalvic cache just to make sure their isnt any problems
[Captivate Android Development] dc5ftw:
yup, did that too
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
Ok, so I flashed Apex 8.2 (full package, not update). I did not flash to stock anything. Just wiped cache, cleared dalvik and did a factory reset on Continuum 6.1. I did notice that it was laggy at first, but not bad. Certainly not Froyo laggy. So I changed my scheduler to vr and it got better. Then I went to Talon 0.4.1 1200 mhz BIGMEM and lag was gone. I was also using EXT4, not rfs. It should be noted that I was using ADW, not TW4. I also flashed I9000 bootloaders yesterday. I restored apps and app data from TiBu. I even restored system settings from My Backup Root (please no speeches about not restoring system data b/c I know the standard line). Beyond the lag that disappeared with the kernel change, Apex runs great. No wifi reboots in 24 hrs, unplugged to 99% after 7 hrs on charger.

For those experiencing any odd or unusual problems, go back to stock and start over. Follow install directions carefully. If there is ever a moment when you say to yourself " It says to.... but I always....." then stop and do what the instructions say. That one little thing could cause you a lot of headache after you flash.

@Watsa, Great ROM. Very solid.

Now, I have to plug in and charge. Time to go back to Continuum. I did this just to prove that a lot of problems are usually installer error, not Dev error.
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
@mrhaley hmm... I'll see how it goes with that Talon version you say. Thank u for the review :)

Last night I flashed DarkCore for the second time and noticed at once that Microbes live wallpaper's lag was gone, just a matter of rebooting to have it back :( also the feel was a bit rough and battery was definitely better on Talon. I reflashed, got rid of my theme, wiped cache, ended up reflashing the ROM to get it as fresh as possible, no results, so well... My phone is a Talon one :D

I will try the Bigmem version on vr and see how much it can get even better :P

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Apex 8.2
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
Ive noticed that for some reason,, VR scheduler helps ALOT

Sent from my Apex Blue 2.3.4 Ext4 equipped Samsung Captivate.
[Captivate Android Development] tkjeeper:
truer words were never spoken.
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
Just call them like I see them.
[Captivate Android Development] ~Reaper~:
what is it ????
[Captivate Android Development] leoriver42:
www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/IA64wikI/IOScheduling/VRscheduler

There's an explanation on what it is but if you're not familiar with those things don't expect to understand a single word lol. But many people claim to have great results changing Talon's scheduler to vr, personally I use it and my phone runs incredible with Talon... So.. Maybe u should try it.
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
Its a kernel scheduler. On Talon the default scheduler is SIO. There are also noop, deadline, cfq and now VR. The scheduler organizes the Input/output (I/O) queue in the kernel. Sometimes changing the scheduler can effect performance (in this case lag).

If I messed that up, someone please correct me.
[Captivate Android Development] ~Reaper~:
thanks guys will check it out
[Captivate Android Development] ~Reaper~:
well tried but the link is not good
[Captivate Android Development] jonnyg1097:
Does anybody have any tips on getting me a better battery life with Apex?

I am currently on Talon's kernal and it seems that maybe after 3 or so hours of the phone being idle i get down to about 60 percent. I tried the calibration method of charging it fully while off and on and then going into CMW and clearing the battery stats but it doesnt seem to do the trick anymore.
[Captivate Android Development] Lancez:
try dark core kernel
[Captivate Android Development] byrdtulsa:
Watsa.. Before u had the you tube that had a download option.. Do you have link for that
[Captivate Android Development] d_gritza:
So I've been using apex 8.2 and I've been loving it. I tried all kernels and I have this annoying problem. No matter which lock screen/kernel I use I get this 3 second lag when unlocking the screen and then trying to do anything? Any suggestions?
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
Try using a different launcher. Also, you could think about rfs/ext4 conversion(change to ever which you don't have now).
[Captivate Android Development] d_gritza:
I've tried both file extensions with the same result. Possible bad flash? as last time I used apex I don't remember this problem...?
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
Its always possible, but I would try a few more things before I reflashed.