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[Vibrant General] Settai:
Samsung has definitely lost me as a customer. Went with the Vibrant instead of the MT4G and I regret it. Don't get me wrong this is an amazing device and hardware wise its still the best phone on shelves, but Samsung has absolutely no reason for such ****ty software support.
[Vibrant General] Master&Slave™:
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To be honest just thinking about it makes me think of Kanye West's song "MONSTER", and i mean that in a good way lol.

I honestly dont care about samsung not updating this line of galaxy s phones until there was a lawsuit, only because we have great devs out here.

So in reality, GALAXY S II FTW!
[Vibrant General] dligon:
ok my question is 1 we have the original vibrant. 2. next the vibrant 4g. Is this going to be called the vibrant 4g II or what. Or was the vibrant 4g just vibrant 1.5.
[Vibrant General] Bernardos70:
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii. It isn't as clear-cut as it was with the first Galaxy S, which was a cut above all other handsets. The competition this time around is on par, or very close to it.

Let the benchmarks roll in. While we know what we have now with the devs constantly working on our phones, it is not a given the same thing will happen next generation. They might be just as tired and frustrated as us when it comes to Samsung's lateness in releasing the source code, actual updates, etc, and might just skip the next generation.

In my case, once bitten, twice shy. I will definitely not get it at launch, and I will wait possibly several months until I can truly assess the state of the phone, lag, GPS, and anything else that might have been put to scrutinity next.
[Vibrant General] imitebewrong:
I dont know if anyone knows this for fact but, I'm assuming the cellular networks will all get one and want to "brand" it their own. Like they have something no one else does. So will the Galaxy S II still carry the Vibrant name on TMobile? I doubt it, with the aesthetics changing so much (bigger screen, different home buttons, etc) it'll probably be re-branded with a new name.
[Vibrant General] lolcopter:
design looks old

might as well be an evo with samsung branding
[Vibrant General] eltormo:
When i change from AT&T to T-mobile i sold my captivate to a friend for $200,that was 3 months ago,and bough 2 Vibrants one for me and one for my wife.
[Vibrant General] Tarzanman:
Yes, it supposedly uses 18% less power... but the iPhone 4 easily has double the battery life of the Vibrant.

So instead of getting ~18 hours of life from my Vibrant I will now get almost 22 hours. Not enough of an improvement.
[Vibrant General] Jayrod1980:
What I'm afraid of is the phone not coming to tmo. Why would they come out with vibrant 4g and then the gs2 in just a couple months later. Seems out of box support for att and not us. Seems like something tmo would do like in the past. We seem the slowest to get the halo phones. I want this phone but not worth leaving tmo for it. Who knows.
[Vibrant General] Dougefresh91:
Never buying another Samsung, that's my thoughts.

Does anyone else think the Galaxy S 4G is a bit superfluous now that this has been announced? I mean what was the point of releasing a Galaxy S phone a week before the S II was launched? Samsung is all screwed up.
[Vibrant General] lawalty:
One question, who do I give my $500+ dollars to get one?? I'll buy one! I have no complaints about the Samsung line. I want to buy a Galaxy Tab, and I went to t-mb the other day and played with the Dell Slate, and STILL - the Samsung Tab feels sooo much better.
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
ooh, so the Plus display drops the pentile arrangement. Interesting.
[Vibrant General] ColorNapkin:
My thoughts exactly.
[Vibrant General] eunkipark92:
It probably means theyre not launching gs2 anytime soon.

bionix 1.2.1 with adw launcher ex
[Vibrant General] Jayrod1980:
To the above poster, that's what I'm worried about. Unless the vibrant 4g is slated to become a mid range phone for Samsung and they give it cheap on contract, I don't see them getting a gs2 variation anytime soon. Bummer and hopefully I'm wrong!
[Vibrant General] eunkipark92:
It took months to get galaxy s to u.s carriers so its probably going to take a while :p

bionix 1.2.1 with adw launcher ex
[Vibrant General] Dattack:
Is it possible to use a european phone then in the U.S.? i am sure I can pick up a few when I am in europe.
[Vibrant General] XPLANE9:
Check out anandtech for the galaxy s 2 benchmarks. The drivers for the cpu and gpu are likely not finalized but the tegra 2 scores higher in some areas. Guess I will wait for the next hardware improvements (quad cores):D.
[Vibrant General] eunkipark92:
Check out lg 3d 3000on quadrant with no mod..:o

bionix 1.2.1 with adw launcher ex
[Vibrant General] eunkipark92:
Yes but galaxy s2 will not work on tmobile but will work on att.. U know 3g and hspa plus?

bionix 1.2.1 with adw launcher ex
[Vibrant General] bosslabs:
When all is said and done, all the dust has settled;it's pretty clear that sammy has a great hardware for the vibrant and I can't even imagine myself not looking at the gorgeous amoled screen daily. So yeah people are going to get the galaxy s 2..
[Vibrant General] itsjusttim:
I'm in same boat as you. The samsung hardware is just so amazing. The developers here help with the other parts.
[Vibrant General] Arkasai:
Lots of people *****ing about touchwiz...which is funny because everyone seems to use launcher pro or adw regardless of what rom they run. Its like complaining about having a spare tire in the trunk or IE. You never use it, but its there in an emergency. If you're a touchwiz user and hate it, your frustration is your own fault.
[Vibrant General] CharlieBoy808:
Hahaha that's a good one lol I guess only time will tell. I hope that if they do get a variant that sprint isn't the only one with a keyboard.
[Vibrant General] C4NT0F3R:
I love how Sprint Epic came with 4G, and now theyre releasing vibrant 4g and captivate 4g or w/e att calls it.

As far as QWERTY keys, I love swype. Why have a fatter phone for a keyboard?
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
I'm getting one as soon as it goes on sale for T-Mobile
[Vibrant General] Praetorian011:
Aside from the GPS issues, the Galaxy S has excellent hardware.

I don't mind having to use custom ROM's etc.. to get the most out of my phone, but I would never recommend a Galaxy S to someone who isn't tech savvy.

I'll most likely be getting the S II when it comes out. :)
[Vibrant General] BruceElliott:
I doubt that you will get 22 hours.

This old engineer likes everything that he sees except for the ultra-thin profile. To achieve that, the marketeers have, as usual, beat out the engineers. The battery has been increased from 1500 mAh to 1600 mAh. What? I am afraid that dual-core operation and faster graphics and rf chipsets will eat this battery alive. Samsung could easily have doubled the battery capacity by adding 1/8" to the thickness profile. (Facepalm x 3.) :confused:
[Vibrant General] demize!:
Dual core should offer some power reduction. Better battery life.

Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
[Vibrant General] dany865:
Especially with that phone which will be an hspa+ I will reach the data cap of 5 gb in 2 days haha :-) . Damn it Tmobile. Today I got an sms message from them that I reached the data cap. Now I' m having fun with slower speed for the remainder billing cycle. Go wifi baby....that' s the voice in my head
[Vibrant General] golmar88:
I'm not a fan of touchwiz, but I'm not a fan of any "default" launcher besides AOSP. So I would customize TW, SenseUI, any of them. That being said, I love my Vibrant. If Samsung had the perfect software with the perfect filesystem I would probably still run a diff rom. It's what we do here. I couldn't ask for a better screen. I AM in the "faster updates" camp, but all companies are like that. It is what it is. I, however, don't think I'll be purchasing a GS2. I have learned a leason about first gen hardware. I'll wait untill they have the Dualcore (quadcore maybe) technology worked out. I held on to my G1 till the vibrant came out, I think I'll be OK. ;)
[Vibrant General] strikerx312:
anyone know what the estimate price will be?

I saw one website that said it may be over $1000 :eek:
[Vibrant General] CharlieBoy808:
I think $1000 would be way to much. They wouldn't sell much at that price.
[Vibrant General] Bernardos70:
My Checklist fire buying a Samsung phone:

1. Is GPS working flawlessly and consistently? If no, phone ruled out, if yes, proceed to 2;

2. Is the memory controller improved, and this doesn't lag in any file system? If no, rule out phone, if yes, proceed to 3;

3. Is the source out? If no, rule out phone, if yes, proceed to 4;

4. Does it have a locked boot loader, or any other aspect that makes it un-rootable, out difficult to to root and load custom ROMs? If yes, rule out the phone, if no, go to 5, final and most difficult. Two part question;

5. Is ice cream out? If it is, is it on the Galaxy S 2? If yes to both, then I will buy it; if not, I'm not accepting Samsung's empty promises.
[Vibrant General] amwilliams9:
Yup gonna get it.

1. productivity ie able to do more in less time.

2. Potential for advancement with features and apps

3. Gonna be a bad motherwatchyourmouth

4. If this phone even is 2/3's the same trend that PC's took, then the ability of dev's to push it beyond it's specs....is gonna be insane.

5. I can't resist the technology that this brings.
[Vibrant General] ctkatz:
this is the only thing i would upgrade my vibrant over. i was disapointed that sammy announced a ffc 4g galaxy s (basically the vibrant with 4g capabilities) THEN they come out with this shortly afterwards. i never would have announced the sgs 4g and gone straight to the sgs2.

i hope t-mobile gets this but then again i don't see at&t or verizon announcing their own sgs 4g, so it concerns me t-mo may not get that device.
[Vibrant General] crazyald:
I just want the movie inception and the back cover from the galaxy s 2. having those things will make my phone even better
[Vibrant General] eunkipark92:
umm dude...its not just the launcher problem. the whole touchwiz **** is slowing down the phone...there is a difference between the touchwiz and touchwiz laucher..

Trigger 2.6

dragon kernel uv/oc to 1.28

Adw launcher ex
[Vibrant General] Andrew.Dodson07:
That is the 4G... The galaxy 2 is not the same phone

Sent From My Vibrant, Bionix-v 1.2.1
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Key word: "Update."
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
No, idiot.

I sound like I've read enough threads on this forum about the laggy Galaxy S phones and read enough talk about the lag fixes.

If I complain about my laggy Vibrant, please do tell me what the common remedy for this issue is (short of buying a new phone, which I did - best decision ever, btw)? Lag fix, no?

Thank you.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Have you read this thread, or this forum?

There are enough "ducks" here who have no issues buying a new phone every 6 months, or spamming the marketplace section desperately trying to sell what they have to they can upgrade - yet again.

The Android manufacturers churn out endless amounts of phones because Android users care more about overspecced devices than the general UI or UX.

The ones that don't care are using Cheap/Free on contract mid range phones, or feature/dumb phones (70% of the market).

EDIT: As far as the devs helping with the software on Samsung phones. That's nice and all, but really... Samsung's hardware at this point in time isn't that much better than what competitors are putting out. I personally think the sAMOLED fad is wearing down a bit, and their Hummingbirds simply aren't really much superior to Tegra II and TI OMAP (if at all in the case of OMAP).

If Samsung thinks they can have crappy software support and bank on their hardware, then I dunno. Perhaps gadget geeks who don't care about that will buy them in droves. They'll prolly be just as terrible with releasing the source for GS2 as with the Vibrant in the US. /shrugs/ Do expect a lot less people for #NeverAgain Pt. 2
[Vibrant General] hijackerjack:
Its a dichotomous key :O haha. This basically sums everything up haha.
[Vibrant General] bgtvfr:
THUMBS DOWN

saw sum pics of galaxy s II dont like it try to make it like iphone not even close iphone already played out so wat for try theres only one iphone.. the should come up wit there own ideas

vibrant kills it

dislikes: square iphone styled iphone theme based

likes: 400 cpu
[Vibrant General] LHBC:
Since you are neither the owner of this forum nor a contributor here, it's simply laughable of you ordering other people "don't come here". /shrug

And remind me who you are again?!

oh btw, I bet you so believed in yourself reading "enough" threads to deem the SGS II a tegra 2 phone as well. You did sound like that! "Enough"? pfft, best joke in this thread.
[Vibrant General] CharlieBoy808:
Honestly I really can't stand these virtual keyboards. I've had sidekicks since the first color version. Swype was fine up until it started remembering all of my bad typing...
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Where did I order anyone not to come here?

Why are you trolling me, and intentionally misrepresenting statements I've made on this forum?

Why not just go to you User CP and put me on ignore, so you can stop making me throw up in my mouth?
[Vibrant General] j0hnZ:
The only thing Samsung needs to do is use ext4 instead of rfs. TouchWiz is the best UI I've used, and I've returned a few phones recently and can't stand looking at my Nexus S UI. Good hardware with gimped software...

Edit: So ya, I would sell both of my current phones for this.
[Vibrant General] dalephil22:
I just have to laugh at all the people that talk about Samsung and its software or lack of. It doesn't matter what software is released on SGSII because whatever Sammy puts on it you won't be happy with it and you will be right back here at XDA getting your daily rom flash itched! Who RU crapin'?;)
[Vibrant General] sualpine:
I won't buy one unless it's open enough for Cyanogenmod, or at least Samsung promises 2 years worth of Android upgrades until my contract is up again.
[Vibrant General] j0hnZ:
Truth, insert sections for Nexus phones....
[Vibrant General] Bernardos70:
Would you really purchase a phone based on a promise by Samsung? After all the broken promises they made? You're really forgiving, man. That, or you have really short memory.
[Vibrant General] j0hnZ:
They've met all the promises they've made to the people who have Vibrants...
[Vibrant General] XPLANE9:
XDA support for HTC devices will always be better than Sammy ones, simply because XDA was created for HTC devices on good ole WinMo.

For me, I am sticking with my HD2 and maybe the next Nexus, probably by Motorola this time.
[Vibrant General] XPLANE9:
Only 3 months late. :eek:
[Vibrant General] j0hnZ:
Sounds like looking for something to whine about. Still got it, promise kept...
[Vibrant General] nakagusukumike:
waiting for a 720p display...
[Vibrant General] Pig Vomit:
Like the implied promise that their GPS actually works on the $500 phone they sold me? Still waiting. Never again.
[Vibrant General] j0hnZ:
The people who got faulty ones which was probably a lot can **** in one hand and hope in the other if they want. It isn't gonna happen short of a class action lawsuit. That would be way to much money to give up without a fight...that's just common sense. I haven't heard of a newer Vibrant having the problem. When you show me a company that actually fixed a problem as wide spread as this one I might jump on the bandwagon.

Samsung has a niche in the Android market as a media centered Android phone with the Galaxy S series. I agree they should do some kind of thorough testing to check more than just can I get a position but if I want a media centered phone I'm not getting an HTC or a pure Android phone.
[Vibrant General] IronWolve:
To be blunt, does the damn thing have a message indicator?
[Vibrant General] bagayas:
I'm with you brother! Being an early adopter of the Vibrant I've gone the custom ROM route with TeamWhiskey. I'm not very happy with the way Samsung/Tmo handled the froyo update and even less happy with the supposed "upgrade" being announced not more than 7 months later.

I'm sticking with my Vibrant and customizing the heck out of it.
[Vibrant General] Bernardos70:
No, they did not. If someone tells me "I'll get you something for lunch" goes out for lunch and comes back without my food, and says "Oh, I was gonna get you lunch in 3 months, that's what I meant" then you're right, they did keep all their promises. I don't go by that logic though.

And I'm not even gonna get into the previous Galaxy either. Or the GPS. Telling us there is no solution for the GPS outside of a hardware fix is absolutely fine, but does not absolve Samsung from fault.
[Vibrant General] Paging Dr B:
Yeah, don't you guys know that Win7 HTC devices are the shiz and that's where all of the talent is; Making Win7 roms. That's malarkey.

Back on topic: The SGS2 looks amazing, and as long as it's GPU is a step up from our current powerVR then i'm game. I want the bigger screen with less grain, dual core shenanigans, FFC, and all of that other hocus pocus. But what I want more than most of this is a reliable OS release schedule.
[Vibrant General] Paging Dr B:
Holy crap, really? GPS has been working now for months. It's been a while since it took more than 10 seconds to get a lock.
[Vibrant General] MartinB6927:
I probably will end up getting it. Hopefully we get a date soon. And for T-Mobile
[Vibrant General] j0hnZ:
That is the worse analogy I've ever seen regarding it. How about I was going to fix your computer in the time I specified but I had to wait on parts and engineering has a lot of projects so I had to wait on them too. If you want a more thorough job I need you to wait a little while longer. Oh that's right, I think that is exactly what they did so the analogy fits perfectly.

It doesn't absolve them from fault but without some common sense understanding all your doing is whining for the sake of whining. You could always do something about it, but I'm going to guess your not even thinking about it.
[Vibrant General] CharlieBoy808:
When you put it the way you did I have a lot of understanding. I work in the tech field and fixing stuff is what I do. Sometimes I can't fix something in the time it needs to be fixed, however if I feel that the fix is almost impossible I'll say something. I won't sugar coat it and tug the customer along to make them feel satisfied. In this case it seems like that is what Samsung did. They did a piss poor job of supporting their customers and that is what the business is all about, customers. Now they have lost customers and now newer customers will soon also be pissed off.
[Vibrant General] checktheemails:
I'm in love with the S II's specs but I don't know why I would need something that powerful in a phone... after all, I'd have to purchase it outright and by then selling my Vibrant won't put much of a dent in the pricetag.

If I have the money... I might. I still wish I had a physical keyboard like the Epic. Gonna just get the nintendo 3DS probably to satisfy me instead of another phone.
[Vibrant General] j0hnZ:
That sounds like a lot of single perspective common sense. I've been an electronic technician for a while now and there is no I can't fix it. There's a I can't reproduce the error and there's a this is going to take longer than expected, but not a this can't be fixed.

This is not a single case of you working on a single piece of equipment, this is large scale, large cost and there are a lot more factors involved. Obviously the cost vs benefit wasn't enough for them to fix all the phones. They did however from what I've seen replace phones where people showed they have the issue.

Samsung is a huge company this problem isn't going to hurt them in the least especially if nobody does anything about it. Even then it's not going to effect them much.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
I've never flashed a custom rom. I put my money where my mouth is. I don't have the time to waste doing Samsung's QA work for them.

For those who do, more power to ya!

The GPU in this phone was never pushed, so who the freak cares if the next GPU is better? Better for what logical reason? Just cause?

It's like crying to upgrade your 8800 GT, when the only thing you play is Angry Birds on Windows.

More RAM would help, though. The first Galaxy S series phones were a bit RAM starved, IMO, and it showed in some games/apps and multi-tasking scenarios.
[Vibrant General] MikeyMike01:
I was big on the Never Again thing, and believe me, I'm trying real hard to find a problem with the SGS 2, but I can't seen to.

In my mind, there's only these things that need to be answered:

Is there any sort of locked/encrypted/whatever that will seriously impede development?

Does everything work, out of the box, as it should, within reason? No broken gps, no lag... nothing.

Has their software improved to the point where the stock experience is not mind bendingly awful?

I'm confident the first is not a problem, the second one I think is likely... the third one has me the most concerned.

One thing is for certain, I'll be looking at it as-is. Samsung's word means nothing to me now.

Sent from my Captivate.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patillo5:
Im using cognition. Can I use rom manager to flash to firefly or can I flash back to 2.1 using the update file and rom manager. Do I need to do something different?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcord11758:
Trench coat, couple of drinks, make sure it's not too cold out to reduce shrinkage

Seriously I think both rims use same base and ext 4. Put fire fly on your internal sd, long press power, select recovery, install zip from sd, choose zip, fire fly, confirm
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patillo5:
Thanks

Thats a big help.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] tylerwolfekc:
Just wondering if you can boot all of those!!:D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] crisiscore_08:
no their is no way to quad boot [YET]. Cotulla announced that the dft team are working on a sd windows mobile 6.5x build to run from the sd card, i also read that the devs behind the ubuntu are going to add the option to boot from magldr, and if your interested the meego build that steve is going to release is also going to run from magldr. so in conclusion you can run wp7 from nand (with a partitioned sd card), android from sd card, and WinMo 6.5x(when released), and ubuntu from sd card ^.^
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] tylerwolfekc:
Holy cow that is awesome thanks for the info!!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] dazza9075:
and this weeks bigest geek award goes too....

;)

would be kinda cool, because? because we can!

All those wonderful OS's under one roof, iOS wasnt invited anyway ;)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Ulyaoth:
why would any reasonable being spend energy to even think about the iOS???.... not even worth diminishing it.... ;)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamranh3:
I did a nandroid backup of my phone before going to CM7, after that I decided I want to go back, but it won't let me restore. It does the whole restore process but restarts CWM in the middle of restoring data.

I tried to narrow it down and it seems it crashed when restoring "com.htc.messages".

Can anyone help me? I was on Android Revolution 2.0.1.1 going to PNK Crispy Duck.

EDIT #1: I tried restoring again and it seemed to frezze when restoring something like "pdu"? Which is also in the data catergory, but the size of the backup - 1.14GB - seems to be right size, considering its bigger than my last back up - ~1.09G - so I don't know what the problem is :S
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sphuyal:
Which version of CWM are you using? It is known that backup and restores are f**ked up the newest version of CWM

Anyways, what you can try is to flash Android Revolution HD and then try to check if restore works then. It requires a bit of your time but it maybe worth trying.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamranh3:
Im using CWM 2.5.1.3, so I really don't know where I could go wrong :(