yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S II General] haloimplant:
Of course we'd all like to know more specs like whether it has HDMI out and such, but the most important thing will be whether the bootloader is locked. I think Samsung will be smart enough to see that shutting the flashing community out would be huge mistake, but who knows.

Considering I paid a grand total of $25 for my SGS under contract (with insane monthly cost but not much ado about that, if one wants to use throughout canada anyways), I may be looking at buying this thing outright and either selling the SGS or keeping it as a backup.

To me the dual-core and 1GB ram are nice, however what I really want is samoled+ (no more pentile) but of course a locked bootloader would be a dealbreaker.

Any info on pricing? I would actually believe $800 for this unit, might have to wait for a price drop or blow a big chunk of my tax return lol.
[Galaxy S II General] silverwolf0:
No, the iPhone is the best! It has 960x640, bigger than the rest!

Life would be a lot simpler if we all just bought phones based on resolution. Like that 12megapixel chinese knockoff camera I bought with mp7 technology back when cameras only went up to 5mp...
[Galaxy S II General] webstar1:
Galaxy s 2 is going to share the same fate. We will need a lagfix and will have 30 people trying to port CM7 AND CM8! Y couldn't samaung just read supercurios presentation. For fuk sake samsung!
[Galaxy S II General] Toss3:
I think every android phone out there lags when running enough widgets/apps simultaneously. Android is just not that great at multitasking. We also need to keep in mind that gingerbread isn't optimized for dual cores yet.
[Galaxy S II General] fane1:
Its too soon to evaluate but first impressions are not good.The phone is slow in the ui transition and my sgs is faster playing that game that sg2.I know its going to be optimized but by who??? Samsung?? humm probably another job to xda dev to do like they did on the original galax s.I think i will skip this one and keep the older brother untill something really fast comes up.Still the device looks amazing but samsung is samsung ....
[Galaxy S II General] marvi0:
[OFFTOPIC] Samsung Galaxy S II is now official

Boy am i glad to have resisted the temptation of the nexus cause the new galaxy is a beast it might even question my jail broken , well hacked iPhone 4 http://www.google.com/gwt/x?source=...xy.google.com/~r/androidandme/~3/aqbcBqPQC5k/.
[Galaxy S II General] Rytkonen:
That general lag in Android is caused by the fact that Android does not use hardware accelerated animations in UI. That power of the quad core GPU is wasted in UI because of it.
[Galaxy S II General] haloimplant:
Jeez can we at least wait for reviews/vids of the released product before deciding it's a lagging POS?

I didn't really notice much lag on my SGS with stock 2.2 (yes 2.1 was atrocious).

Yes it will disappointing if it still lags, they should really get it running decent for those that aren't into flashing. For those of us that are though, as long as the bootloader is unlocked I'm sure the devs here will have it running like a dream in no time.
[Galaxy S II General] nado_x:
I couldn't have said it better myself. The fact of the matter is you'll be an early adopter once again with this batch of dual-cores. If you're disappointed then wait for the 2. gen dual cores. In my experience the first generation of a product rarely measures up in quality as it may have done 10-15 years ago.

Even then it would be wise to wait for tech to mature, unless you know what you're getting yourself into.

Right now the Galaxy S is in my opinion the entry level for Android phones even if it is quite a powerful device. These phones can't be enjoyed unless they perform well, unless you just want a phone with facebook :P
[Galaxy S II General] dadyal:
[OFFTOPIC] (Video) Samsung Galaxy S II

http://www.emoiz.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-video

http://www.emoiz.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-specifications
[Galaxy S II General] Jeshter2000:
I hope it does not run RFS . If it does arrggg FAIL!
[Galaxy S II General] Rytkonen:
Lets hope that Samsung has changed the file system. Although it is not a big matter to me because I'm going to flash custom roms anyway. :D

e. Im still confused about why Honeycomb has hw accelerated UI and 2.X does not...
[Galaxy S II General] Yufina:
New Super Amoled Plus screen looks awesome. Definitely good reason to upgrade my galaxy S someday.
[Galaxy S II General] dnsp:
Regarding the lag remember that it is a pre production unit, it is running on Gingerbread that it's not multi cpu optimized and the rom maybe it's way far from final release. So, at the moment it's running at single core 1Ghz and as such no better than our SGS except for the extra RAM.
[Galaxy S II General] riso123:
Gapless Playback

I hope they finally find a way to do gapless playback. Its one of the only downfalls left on the SGS IMHO.
[Galaxy S II General] bilboa1:
I think we shouldn't go ahead with assumptions.

For example the SGS browser IS GPU accelerated.

I wouldn't be surprised that the SGS II's Android takes full advantage of the 2 cores *at least* for browsing. In fact the opposite would surprise me.

Beside its a 1Ghz CPU, yes but, but it's no HummingBird. ARM9's are faster for the same power and clock.

Finally it's highly likely to include RFS - but let's face it - without the bugs of the first iterations of the SGS ROM, RFS is very decent. it's slower than ext4 but it's not by much and it doesn't lag. (Android 2.2.1+ from samsung only, previous versions had bugged RFS..) So while i'd rather have ext4 it's no big deal.

What would be really interesting however is.. non-locked, super resilient boot loader (like the SGS) and as open as possible drivers so that we can develop/support the phone even after samsung stopped releasing new versions of the system...
[Galaxy S II General] Bughlol:
Nice with good specs !
[Galaxy S II General] shorty083:
http://www.gsmarena.com/mwc_2011_samsung-review-567p2.php
[Galaxy S II General] Javalescu:
It will be just E P I C.
[Galaxy S II General] ronmtorres:
just when I thought I'd hold on to my Galaxy S for a good 3-4 years.. :P
[Galaxy S II General] vcosmin:
one word: Palm!

in many ords: Palm in 2002 - Copy paste full funcionall
[Galaxy S II General] bsamurai:
RFS will still be there, first thing to do is to Root and VOODOO it! :D
[Galaxy S II General] TexUs:
One huge pro is likely... Lag fixes/Rooting will be easily ported over (most likely).

Regardless this phone just crushed the Atrix.

My only question is when is release date? Is this the international version or the ATT one?

SURELY Samsung has fixed the GPS fiasco, other than that I think it'll be a sweet device.
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
It's not surprising at all

it was leaked since last year, but no one had full spec of the beast

i just hope they make a AWS 1700+2100 version of the phone

at the moment only Nexus S & SGS 4G can run on 1700+2100
[Galaxy S II General] Androyed:
I don't want to troll, but this Galaxy S II must be the ugliest device I've ever seen. Why is everyone going with this look? Copying the iPhone? It looks so 'bricky'. And what's with the decreasing thickness and weight? Smaller and lighter doesn't always mean better. Same goes for the display. Bigger doesn't mean better. I realise of course that not everyone has to share my opinion.

All this doesn't change the awesomeness of this device, but the Nexus S does look a lot better to me!
[Galaxy S II General] kindaichi24:
im wondering does it has the gorilla glass??
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
i totally agree with you on the look

i prefer the SGS i9000 or Nexus S look than the new one, it is so totally tacky

it might be slimmer, and lighter, but... eewwww...

specially the part of the camera + flashlight it looks the worse, it totally ruins the flush stylish look

not a big fan of the new TWlauncher copying WM7

Found a video review of the S2

[YOUTUBE]V3evvaiyqY4[/YOUTUBE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3evvaiyqY4&feature=player_embedded#at=27
[Galaxy S II General] Piter1225:
Found some price details at Expansys.com

649 GBP, the release date is said to be 18.04

:o
[Galaxy S II General] marvinloess:
OMG!

guys please see this.. is that true? 1500? WTF?

source : http://www.nieuwemobiel.nl/021433/4449/LG-Optimus-2X-en-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-vergeleken.html
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
found it

http://www.expansys.com/samsung-i9100-galaxy-s-ii-16gb-209114/
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
found it

http://www.expansys.com/samsung-i9100-galaxy-s-ii-16gb-209114/

it's on sale already
[Galaxy S II General] dehem333:
Dutch site tweakers.net did benchmarks. Result was 2169 , lil bit lower than Optimus 2X , but with the optimus they did the test 10 times and that wasnt possible with the SGS2.

Anyway , QUADRANT SUCKSSSS
[Galaxy S II General] TexUs:
That's $1045!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't believe that at all. Maybe $649 but certainly not 649 GBP
[Galaxy S II General] marvinloess:
:eek:

Samsung claimed that Orion processor is better than Tegra2.. why is it so low compared to Optimus 2x(2500+) and Optimus 3D reached 2900 benchmark score
[Galaxy S II General] TexUs:
Those benchmarking scores are largely useless and rarely transfer over into real-world usage ;)
[Galaxy S II General] haloimplant:
The SGS already hits the framerate cap in quadrant for much of the tests, so it's even more useless at evaluating units with better GPUs. Someone needs to come up with a more demanding benchmark.
[Galaxy S II General] marvinloess:
i am still annoyed with this... why only samsung phones are low in benchmark score? look at our SGS with original firmware
[Galaxy S II General] Bspence415:
Sorry kind of curious to what does AWS 1700+2100 do for our phone
[Galaxy S II General] kenvan19:
I wouldn't use another Samsung supported phone if someone gave it to me.
[Galaxy S II General] dehem333:
Because Quadrant is total crap , with some tweaking the HD2 can even get a score from 2900. Quadrant relies very much on software , optimus 2x had 1800 score @ the first benchmarks and now alot higher , probably because firmware updates.Also , where did you see that quadrant score of the 3d?

Smartbench 2010 is the best!

BUT , its weird thatsamsung said almost nothing about the cpu? or am I mistaking?
[Galaxy S II General] cba1986:
If the phones is fast enough, who cares about Quadrant?

I tested myself, in the first run i got 1400, 2dn run 1600 and in the 3 run 1500. Numbers mean anything.

Only real life performance is what matters. Benchmarks are placebos.
[Galaxy S II General] marvinloess:
here

thanks
[Galaxy S II General] jlevy73:
AWS is the "common name" of the 1700 frequency band used by Tmo, Wind, Bell etc. 2100 is a band used primarily outside the US
[Galaxy S II General] Maddmatt:
I believe the LG Optimus 'cheats' at Quadrant compared the the SGS because it doesn't have a framerate cap in the 3D tests, the SGS limits the FPS to about 56 (the screen refresh rate I guess).

That may have changed though. They should add the FPS cap to prevent screen tearing and avoid wasting the battery.

Quadrant needs a better way to test 3D performance that isn't affected by FPS caps. Like by adding more and more 3D objects and measuring how many objects it takes to bring the FPS below 10FPS or something.

That still would bring the SGS ahead of the Optimus of course, except in 3D graphics.
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
nice video review

[YOUTUBE]V3evvaiyqY4[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
also found the official page

http://galaxys2.samsungmobile.com/html/specification.html

Network

HSPA+ 21Mbps/ HSUPA 5.76Mbps

EDGE/ GPRS Class 12

Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900

Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100

so those other website quoting 900,1700,2100 for HSPA are wrong
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
Yes!! found the official page

http://galaxys2.samsungmobile.com/html/specification.html

to bad it's not as the rumored 1700+2100 :(
[Galaxy S II General] TexUs:
Something I just thought about.

They add a Dual-Core CPU and Quad-Core GPU while increasing the pixels and screen size but the battery is only 100mAh larger???

That's not a good thing.
[Galaxy S II General] AllGamer:
agree :D

they keep pumping up the CPU, video, network speed, etc

yet no manufacturer have been able to solve the Battery mystery LOL :p
[Galaxy S II General] cba1986:
In fact with more cores we have lesspower drain and less heat. Because the CPU and GPU works in a more "relaxing" way splitting the processes between cores. So instead of having one core at full usage we have two at 50% using less power.
[Galaxy S II General] Idan73:
this is the best part of this release.

did anyone notice touchwiz 4 desktop ui borrowing heavily from honeycomb?
[Galaxy S II General] henrik.dk:
I don't like iphone like shape either. If they could make the speaker be like desire HD, I will definitely go for that. The battery/screen is amazing.
[Galaxy S II General] dinan:
The original Galaxy I-9000 wasn't AWS either when it was announced... but I'm quite certain Samsung will continue their Galaxy tradition of whoring the phone out to every carrier on the planet (Fascinate 2, Vibrant 2, Captivate 2, etc).
[Galaxy S II General] dejan-:
sounds very nice yea... :]
[Galaxy S II General] TexUs:
Except for the "Samsung" part.
[Galaxy S II General] nsa666:
Forget the Benchmarks. No actual benchmark uses dual core...
[Galaxy S II General] wingg:
I'd rather wait for Sgs 3 or 4th May they put a better battery ( li-polymer) in it.

Duall core Sgs2 with li-ion battery made by Samsung probably will have great drain = 20h or less. Charging 2x a day???
[Galaxy S II General] TexUs:
Part of the reason I'm leaning back to the Atrix.

1) Samsung

2) Battery
[Galaxy S II General] haloimplant:
Interesting, you've got a point. If you can clock 2 cores slower than one, it's possible there could be savings if voltages is reduced. The formula for digital logic power dissipation is as follows:

P=1/2*C*f*V^2

So running 2 cores (double C) at half the speed (half f) is a wash, but if you can crank the voltage down you get a square relationship there (ie. 90% of voltage means ~80% of the power).

Now this won't apply at full speed, but then you should have twice the processing power there so more power is expected.

Applications that won't thread would be the same as before, I would think that core speeds can move independently so that you can clock one core at full speed and clock/voltage down the other.

Consider this is all before factoring in any design/process improvements. It looks like Exynos is still 45nm, so who knows how significant those will be. Hmm if battery life is not that great (ie. not as good or better than SGS) it might make sense to wait for designs that can take advantage of the ~30% reduction that should come with 32nm (and who knows might see a higher-res and/or 4" samoled+ by then..).
[Galaxy S II General] erahk64:
The screen in S2 consumes 18 % less energy than the previous display according to the info in the link below.

That is more important since then screen consumes much more energy than other parts in a phone

http://galaxys2.samsungmobile.com/html/feature.html
[Galaxy S II General] betoNL:
And here it is, more pics and a hands-on video!

http://www.engadget.com/tag/GalaxySIi/
[Galaxy S II General] dehem333:
From the official website :'' Dedicated to speed, Samsung Dual Core Application Processor is based on Quad GPU and has 3200M pix/s. Clocking at lightening speeds the unrivaled performance of the Dual Core Application Processor provides unsurpassed functionality and density for faster downloads, quicker multi-tasking, a smoother UI, snappier streaming and highly efficient gaming. With encoding/decoding ability that supports video play and recording of all 1080p/30fps makes it no.1 among dual cores''

Quad GPU , no.1 among dual cores. :o

One funny/weird thing , on the specifications there is a note after the dual core processor that says: * May not be applicable in some regions.

?:eek:
[Galaxy S II General] evensteven:
I must confess, I have mixed feelings about this baby. Specs are looking good, but I'm not sure if a Tegra device isn't the better choice. Well, I will keep my SGS at least a few month and watch what happens anyway.

I really wonder why Engadget mentioned no software bugs in their hands-on. I read a german hands-on and they mentioned that it felt quite unpolished. This incorporates a bunch of FCs and so on. I doubt they will get in a perfect state, when this is really released this month.
[Galaxy S II General] haloimplant:
Interesting that should help while it's being used, maybe stretch it to 6-7 hours of screen time compared to the 5-6 I see now with my SGS.

The bigger factor will be how idle and the networks are managed. What mainly pisses people off is when they put the phone down or in their pocket and lose 2-5% or more per hour. It's hard to say how much of this is configuration/background processes and how much of that is the fault of Samsung and how much the user is to blame.

For example with JuiceDefender managing my mobile data I get about 1-2% per hour, fairly acceptable. On wifi I get less than 1%/hour drain with it always on.

If I leave certain things open in the background it can kill it much quicker (music player used to drain for me if I didn't kill it task manager, maybe it's changed), that's mostly my problem (although they should put an 'exit' in built-in apps like music player or fix the drain).

Other things are less clear. Should I be able to leave data on all of the time? Probably, so they should figure out a way to make that suck less than 1-2%/hour (ie give it a data standby time of 50-100+ hours).
[Galaxy S II General] antz88c:
Same with the others I don't want to troll, specs can be tempting but I still prefer the Galaxy S look and will never give up my Nexus S, pure Android for me.
[Galaxy S II General] Darrien13:
+1 on that.
[Galaxy S II General] Jayrod1980:
Well I love pure android, but at least with Sammy you get all the codecs and extras. I think I would still get the phone if it gets released for T-Mobile. If its att only then no dice.
[Galaxy S II General] peeturr:
Pure android ftw, don't take this freedom for granted.
[Galaxy S II General] kenvan19:
But for those codecs you pay the hard price of buying a phone the manufacturer stopped supporting 10 minutes before the first handset came off the line.

Sent from my Onyx CM7 Google Nexus S!
[Galaxy S II General] Toss3:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/samsungs-galaxy-s-ii-preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked

These benchmarks surprised me a bit as the Tegra 2 seems to be faster than the Exynos.

But all is not lost as http://galaxys2.samsungmobile.com/html/specification.html, says that the Samsung Dual Core Application Processor "May not be applicable in some regions."
[Galaxy S II General] Carne_Asada_Fries:
Well, that's what the gentlemen here are for right? Get the best of both worlds I'd say.
[Galaxy S II General] Chad_Petree:
Will this use rfs or ext 4? im really curious about this :confused:
[Galaxy S II General] DKYang:
Samsung seems to support open source so I wouldn't be surprised if the Galaxy community grows just as much as the HTC community. I wouldn't mind buying a Galaxy phone if media was my priority over other features. It's a beast of a phone when it comes to playing media content.
[Galaxy S II General] doccrow:
i think android 2.3 doesnot even support rfs.
[Galaxy S II General] qreffie:
Ditto. They make one hell of a phone spec wise but have the worst support of all the manufacturers.
[Galaxy S II General] MarlowXim:
Well the benchmarks were consistent with the arm mali gpu. Someone benched it awhile ago and it wasn't up to par to the powervr 540.

I guess the soc is pretty much reference design, since samsung could not outsource to Intrinisty anymore.

My guess is the alternative soc will be the new ti omap series with sgx 540. it should outperform the exynos soc.

I doubt they'll use the tegra2's I'm guessing they reserved it for their current tablets.
[Galaxy S II General] Maddmatt:
No Android version 'supports' RFS. Samsung implement it themselves.
[Galaxy S II General] erahk64:
Deleted post.
[Galaxy S II General] Toss3:
So much for the" up to 5 times faster gpu than its predecessor"-claim. Isn't the NGP(psp2) going to use the same gpu(mali 400)?
[Galaxy S II General] erahk64:
I'ts better to wait for the release, it can be that SW/HW is not finished.

In some Youtube videos from Barcelona they mention that the phone gets very hot.

How many cores did the Mali GPU have that was benchmarked (link) ?

The Mali GPU can have different number of cores according to http://www.arm.com/products/multimedia/mali-graphics-hardware/index.php

The S2 GPU has 4 cores according to the info I read.

It has been mentioned several times that S2 will be released this month.

Is there any official date on a Samsung site ?

I can't find it.
[Galaxy S II General] gogol:
I will simply use Handbrake and convert the video for my Nexus S :)

As simple as that for codecs ...

The built-in codecs are not worth it to replace the pure Google experience!

When we got the next Android Gingerbread 2.4, you will wait ... forever :P
[Galaxy S II General] MarlowXim:
The gpu is clocked higher in the ngp. Key word is upto. They have to account for battery life. Anyway here is how the soc will similarly perform, if it was running stock.

Reference odroid platform.

www.youtube.com/video/XlCMREBgWuY
[Galaxy S II General] erahk64:
Some phones/tablets limits max. frame rate to 60 Hz to avoid unnecessary high

energy consumtion.

If frame rate is not limited, the Quadrant score can be much higher.

I read this on several sites/forums but I don't know if it's true.

And I noticed that some lag fixes on Galaxy S can get much higher Quadrant

score, but the user interface is less smooth and more laggy.

So the Quadrant score can be misleading.

I
[Galaxy S II General] MarlowXim:
I don't think you understand what your talking about. This is a reference board for development in a tablet factor form.

Running stock gingerbread which means ext4 and yaffs fs. It's not absolute performance but this is fast as it's likely going to get on the exnyos soc. Although resolution is higher in the reference tablet. Since samsung will add their own propriety software known as touchwiz leading to more overhead dragging down performance.

Quadrant isn't a good overall measure but it's just reference.
[Galaxy S II General] erahk64:
You had a link to a video with Quadrant test.

So I just wanted to mention that the Quadrant score maybe doesn't show

real performance and user interface experience.
[Galaxy S II General] sedde:
I fail to "see" how that phone is a monster when :

IT HAS 512MB RAM ( I mean cmon ).

It has another samsung ui which is probably flaky and ****ty.

Looks like my grandma's ass before she showered 3 months ago.

Dno, just my 2 cents.
[Galaxy S II General] Nexus-S:
Very impressive hardware specs but the screen would be a little too big for me. Four inches is a perfect screen size for a smart phone, in my opinion.
[Galaxy S II General] RainesX:
Anyone know if this info i correct?

Samsung Galaxy S2 Release Date
Samsung Galaxy S2 will be released on March 4 2011.

Samsung Galaxy S2 Price
According to MobileFun the price for Samsung Galaxy S2 will be £549.95 ($880).

http://www.techespot.com/2011/02/samsung-galaxy-s2-specifications.html

Since some specs are wrong and its from feb 11 i guess not.

Im realy thinking about leaving my HD2 and give Samsung another go. (last samsung were an old brick that only hade the feature to feel apart in the pocket)
[Galaxy S II General] tiger4j:
From all I've read the NGP will have an SGX543 MP4.
[Galaxy S II General] Lord_Buckington:
It's actually 1GB of RAM Official Specs
[Galaxy S II General] Private_Investor:
yeah I agree with u mate..

having read sedde's post, I Immediately check gsm arena about the ram thingy.. and based on this link

it's a confirmed 1GB Ram..
[Galaxy S II General] Private_Investor:
It's a 62 day wait on shipping.. blimey..

it's like they want our money now but ship later when the device actually launched..
[Galaxy S II General] hiraj_panosian:
The Iphone 5 is probably going to use the SGX543 aswell