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[Desire General] pete_kowalski83:
Thanks guys i appreciate all the comments. Im fairly sure my friends will be getting this phone. It sounds very very similar to my incredible
[Desire General] lvnatic:
Belive me, I have tried all of the Desire HD/Z ports available, even since november when they started to show up. I have tried all kinds of tweaks, some of them that you haven't even heard of probably. Ext2 which is supposed to be faster, ext4 without journal, ext partition alignment, ownhere's data2ext version (2ext partitions), patched sqlite, overclock, undervolted kernel + overclock, I even bought a class 6 card especially for this. I always rolled back to leedroid. Belive me, I have tried them all, they are still ports not optimized for desire and never will run smoothly.

I really have hopes for gingerbread, but for sense 2.0, no chance.
[Desire General] medowl:
I have my Desire for just over a week now and i must say i really love it!

But then again i came from the LG Arena (KM900) which is just an awfull phone, so my opion might not be the most objective.. i never had another Android phone before..

I did some research before getting mine at the beginning of 2011, and the Desire being almost a year old, even then alot of sites still rate the original Desire in their top 5, most sites (in europe) compare it with the iPhone4, Samsung Galaxy S, and HTC's own Desire HD. i really liked the 3.7" screen size, the 4" on the HD & Galaxy S (with the same resolution as the 3,7") are just too big for me..

and actually the Desire being almost a year old was actually a great selling point for me. Last time i had to choose a new phone i wanted the top notch, and that was right before LG came out with the Arena, they made it look as the perfect and best phone ever.. (the other options at that time being phones with WM6.5 or iPhone..) but man was i disappointed. So this time around i did some better research , and a phone being almost a year old but still being rated that high couldn't be a misser! Also with such a big community behind it i knew there would be lots of 'of road' stuff to try with it... (but that could be true for most android phones..)

Then there was the rumour of HTC new line up coming soon, but hey new phones come out all the time, and you can't wait forever.. anyway my contract with vodafone would end pretty soon and i had to act fast..

but like i said before, i'm really happy with it. I'm a linux fan and pretty well educated in IT so started messing with it the second day i got it , rooted it, installed several different mods just to try them out.. i'm still amazed what's possible with it.. (today i tried the 'PicMe' app for the first time, which let you view and control the device through any browser.. amazing)

anyway very happy it :) and i'm sure you're friend would be too...

/edit:

and to react on all the cons noted above:

battery live is what i expected from talking to friends owning android phones (and iPhones for that matter..), i just hook it up to the recharger every night anyway... but mostly end up with 30-40% left and the end of the day , and im using it pretty intense atm, just trying out new stuff all day long :)

and mods not being smooth : I'm running CM7 now, with data2sd mod and its running perfectly smooth for me (with the stock SD).. but might get a faster (&bigger) SD one day, but no complaints from me at all..
[Desire General] hudl:
Oh, i believe you of course. And, really, i don't know why the same phone reacts so different for different people. But for me, i found my winner - and it's sense 2! ;)

I have no lags after unlocking the screen, scrolling in long lists, switching the tasks or whatsoever. I have no cause to go back to sense 1. Leedroid wasn't stable for me as wasn't RCMixHD. I think everyone has to test it by him/herself what's the best ROM - but hey, that's why we are on Android and not iOS, right? ;):D
[Desire General] davebugyi:
HTC confirmed the GB update & Sense 2 for it. ATM using sense 2 with a custom ROM, and if you know-how, a custom ROM can be faster&smother than the stock. At least in my case is.

Sent from my customized HTC Desire using TTP
[Desire General] Gundam00qan:
My Pro & Cons views on HTC Desire

Pros: Decent screen size, LED flash, variety of ROMs after flashing making it rather silly not to flash :p, Flashing solves quite a number of problems. My 'light' usage normally drops to 30-40% near the end of the day but flashing a good kernel manage to keep it up to 60s :D. Decent speakers.

Cons:

a)Low int memory (Solvable by flashing- you need to know the difference. :))

b)Low batt life (This is such a cheap comment I don't even consider it as a con and neither should you, I don't get why some losers keep trolling about practically ALL the smartphones just because they weren't designed to last that long or maybe they didn't put such a big battery for a reason. Pregnant smartphones...)

c)Hot when using phone while charging. (Not sure if it is a general issue)

d)Difficult back cover. (If no protection, the plastic lens is sitting on table and supposably it's a bad thing. More exposed to scratches and can ruin shots)

Hard to open as well if no nails (mine has scratches lol I got no nails)

e) Proprietary micro usb charger is not covered. Glhf with dust if you work in a dirty area (with lotta dust)

f) Power button extremely easy to press. Over-sensitive. (Solvable by reducing screen off timer by 15s or so, if you use a good rom, it lets you go lower for lock-screens ;))

g) Wifi reception is weak. (Tested with a friend's N8, has 2 bar while I got none, has full bar while I have 2-3 -_-, I changed a lot of radios, difference never really hit more than over a bar)

h) Idk why they put speakers at the back, srsly. Lol.

i) tbc
[Desire General] :
I suggest you try WiFi Analyzer or a similar software which allows you to see the exact signal levels. The number of bars is a very unreliable way of checking the signal level...
[Desire General] stewart30:
Please advise when and where they confirmed this update.
[Desire General] lvnatic:
+1, I am aware of most of their announcements concerning this and I haven't seen an official one that says Desire will get the update. Like I said, for gingerbread there really is a pretty big chance, but for sense 2.0 I have my doubts.
[Desire General] itachi1706:
They mentioned that the entire desire line (desire, dhd and desire z) will be getting the gingerbread update after desire s goes out onto the market (around Q2). They mentioned it on Monday, 14/2 at wmc 2011
[Desire General] dzumagos:
first of all rooting your desire and getting a custom rom on it is really easy thanks to amazing work being done here on xda.

that is why i wont list small internal space and no newest sense cause basically they ARE available for the desire (custom HD rom with a2sd+)

and things came to a point where Desire HD/Z roms are as fast as any classic desire froyo rom - for example the baadnewz InsertCoin Desire HD/Z ROM.

it is fast, it is stable, it has apps2sd+ and all of HD features including support with HTCsense.com :)

now give me a reason to buy a more expensive phone that gives me the same options? why cause i get it in stock rom ? but hey - desire HD has poor battery (anyway it is not as good as the original desire) and desire Z is... well its ugly in my opinion :P)

HOWEVER

there is a big minus to the original Desire. The screen. it is not -real- multitouch. the digitizer can only see 2 touch points and it looses track of them as soon as the intercept either horizontally or vertically: which means all games that need two finger to control like NOVA, SliceIt, soccer games, TankHero are pretty much unplayable, same goes for the new Google Maps 5.0 with 3D view, you can forget about doing the 'turn' gesture on the original Desire, it will go crazy and it will be hard to actually turn it as you want it

so simply if you can get over the ****ty touch screen (you dont do much gaming) go for desire - you will save some money :)
[Desire General] itachi1706:
Funny. I play all multitouch game excellently. Sometimes even wins my cousin's dhd screen? Maybe they fixed the multitouch problem with the latest batch? Or I am just lucky? And btw, you cannot do the turn gesture for the desire even if you want to try. It says so in the Google maps faq.
[Desire General] dzumagos:
check youtube videos for desire or nexus one multitouch problem.

it is a hardware problem, not software so no patch can fix it (it has been tried here on xda)

and google maps says 'no' in faq because of that issue - if you go ahead with a custom rom lest say desire HD rom the gesture becomes available but it is extremly hard to control it the way you want. instead of turnig it is zooming or turning other way and all kinds of stuff.

but i would appreciate if you gave the names of the games that you play that (apparently) are playable on the ****ty desire digitizer.
[Desire General] supermou:
Once in past, I changed from the Sense stock ROM, to another... but I missed the Sense experience too much... The backup is not so important, I mean when we are talking about Sense... I like the way all the stock apps are connected, offering links from one to another... and the best of everything is Sense dialer... I was in a long lasting quest of finding an alternative dialer on other ROMs, but I didn't find anything that would be good enough alternative.. So, back to Sense... :)

I can see now that you meant Sense internet site, not Sense in particular... my bad... :)
[Desire General] calyco:
This, though battery not really a con imo. With other smartphones people tell me they have to charge everyday too. I've had my desire for about a month and have been very happy with it, chose it over newer models. To go into a little detail on pros:

Handsome look - really love the design and unique metallic brown color

Good screen - vibrant colors and good size. Big enough for browsing, small enough to make it portable

Function - really responsive and just works

But mostly, I picked it because off all the mods and support on this forum. After some reading, now running leedroid, setcpu, app2sd+ and 16gb card. Works perfectly and no regrets on deciding on the older desire. Learned a lot and had fun messing around with the mods :)
[Desire General] shankly1985:
I play games all the time pes2011/fifa asphalt 5, nfs/ pocket ledends all MT games and I can tell you now I have never had one problem.

even play snes games like super mario world where you are always moving, jumping MT never a problem, so not sure where you going with that one. :)
[Desire General] dzumagos:
well i did not make that up obviously.

pes 2011 is playable with the V-Pad and tap or accelelometer steering but when you choose V-pad and 2 buttons occasionaly it is impossible to press them since you are already touching on V-pad which is on the same horizontal height (horizontal height - i hope u get what i mean :p)

you can also try playing TankHero or any other game where control is done with 2 d-pads on the same 'height'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhBRMaUn6Ig
[Desire General] shankly1985:
Yes I have tankhero and I changed the button layout to the two pads and it plays perfect lol

pes I use the analog thing and two buttons plays great.

I also play hero of sparta works great. gangstar MV works perfect, apart from graphic load ins.

But yer I play all MT games and have never had one problem, I did only get the phone october last year. maybe its a updated verison? how long you had yours for.
[Desire General] dzumagos:
my desire is a slcd pvt3 i got it on december

so.... :D
[Desire General] shankly1985:
PVT4 :p I was lucky not having pvt4 1000 or somethink like that, I dont remeber the number but anyway Its on this forum.
[Desire General] shankly1985:
PVT4 20000 I have, it was the PVT4 40000 that is hard to root or somethink
[Desire General] dzumagos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhBRMaUn6Ig

could you please download "multitouch visible test" from market and compare your results with the one from the video ???

plz !
[Desire General] shankly1985:
Ok what am I looking for because that video MT looks good?

downloading app now
[Desire General] dzumagos:
it is not good, digitizer mixes up the coordinates of touch points as soon as they intersect vertically or horizontally (spot that the red and blue circles SHOULD ALWAYS be under fingertips and they are not.)

so how does it perform on your device ?
[Desire General] shankly1985:
They stay with my fingertips most of the time, but not always? lol

I have never had a game not work properly tho? every game ive played works perfect.
[Desire General] dzumagos:
unfortunately the screen and internal mem makes desire imperfect :<
[Desire General] shankly1985:
Am more than happy with it :) not had any problems.
[Desire General] maestro6435:
I got desire, Mrs has Samsung s, both have root and custom roms. Mine desire hd port. Hers gingerbread. I prefer the desire all the way. Can upgrade now but no other phone ticks the boxes yet. So I recommend the desire. But I recommend waiting more, a slew of hot phones coming this year.

B.t.w root is so simple to achieve and negates most cons in here. I've rooted x10, wildfire, galaxy s, legend and 2 desires. Never had one problem.
[Desire General] pete_kowalski83:
Thanks for the input again...the cpl friends that i was lookung for actually have gotten evos now.
[Desire General] Gundam00qan:
Filled with rage.

I'll mention the Cons first.

Cons:

a) Hot when charging and doing something on the phone.

b) Difficult to open back casing without nails (Won't happen if you have)

c) Bugged Multitouch (It doesn't deserve that title...Dual touche and no one makes a big fuzz about it :mad: - They aren't taking tis seriously should thrash their so called 'good' customer service @ MWC.... blah)

d) Weak battery life (Getting an extended greatly avoids this issue - no kid)

e) Low Internal storage for users (Why mention 512Mb ? Sighhhhh HTC's failure in this part - Solvable via rooting for app2sd+ or changing Hboot)

f) Crappy back design, Lens easily scratchable. Wear & Tear multiplies by a lot for your plastic cheap lens for the camera. (Can purchase spare backs from HTC)

g) I don't understand why the speakers are at the back...?

h) Turning on the phone is done too easy. Power button too easy to be pressed.

*These cons are purely my view and I'm sure a few disagree with some of the points stated*

Pros

Everything else :p
[Desire General] 3f1f37:
I was scouting the market for a new android and at the time the I had a choice between the galaxy s or the bad boy I'm responding to you post with. I'm pretty satisfied with my desire, the only con is the small internal memory. Other than that it does everything I need it to.
[HTC Inspire 4G] davwman:
So, does it work for temp root?
[HTC Inspire 4G] budco2000:
i'm working on that now. says its rooting but dont do nothing. rebooted a couple times and still no go
[HTC Inspire 4G] awtryau89:
It only works if you have downgraded your ROM to the DHD rom first.
[HTC Inspire 4G] davwman:
Ok will see what transpires with this thing. Hopefully things move along like the captivate forums.
[HTC Inspire 4G] ptulluri:
Paul @ MoDaCo has discontinued development of this tool. It will only work with 1.3X build. it will not work with 1.7X/1.8X.

http://android.modaco.com/content-page/320722/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/page/160/
[HTC Inspire 4G] davwman:
it doesnt even matter anymore I rooted with hack kit
[Nexus One General] midyat47:
You can overclock n1 only to 1.190ghz, while desire hd 1.9ghz and the htc desire Z (G2) 2.0ghz. Does N1 has to old cpu?

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[Nexus One General] yongwk:
Yes. 1st Gen snapdragon
[Nexus One General] Ertavarez:
if you want to OC you N1 go and OC you Desktop is the best choice :D
[Nexus One General] josemedina1983:
Why would you wanna over clock your phone? I have my N1 clocked @ 691 and works really fast with the MIUI rom and battery performance is better than stock. I'm not a fan of custom rom & rooting but I been pretty pleased so far. overclocking the nexus one will drain your battery like crazy plus the 1st Gen of snapdragons weren't as good with graphics as the A4chips and humming birds.
[Nexus One General] Joetang1:
i have mine underclocked too and it works fine. try going a step further and underclocking it to like 422 when it's sleeping/standby. it'll help your battery
[Nexus One General] Pommes_Schranke:
The connection between clockspeed and power consumption is not as strong as you think. But without a doubt it has an influence. Much more important is the voltage. If you "undervolt" the Nexus One CPU you can even get better battery live with higher clockspeed.

And if you use a tool to change the clockspeed depending on the situation (display on/off, battery % left, workload) and undervolt the cpu you can safe A LOT of juice.

With Wildmonks kernel, MIUI and SetCPU I get a much better lifetime than ever before even though my Nexus runs at 1152MHz.
[Nexus One General] Jack_R1:
Actually, the frequency makes a BIG difference in power consumption. Think of it this way - each clock causes changes propagating in transistors, which are the actual power draw. More clocks = more changes = more power drawn. As easy as that.

So, having 10% higher frequency and 10% lower voltage compensates each other.

Nexus has examples that overclock to 1.5GHz when overvolted, like Desire Z and Desire HD (both of those have to be overvolted to go up stable from 1.2GHz). Most of Nexus Ones fail when overclocking and don't reach higher than 1.2GHz, but it might be not because of the CPU, but because of other devices on system board.
[Nexus One General] willverduzco:
Generally, it is only when you change the voltage (which is required to stabilize the higher frequency) that you see noticeable differences in battery life.
[Nexus One General] Jack_R1:
Ok, some additions required.

Leakage is also dependent on power, and the dependency graph isn't linear - and starts breaking upwards at some point, usually being a tad above the max designed voltage.

Going down in voltage makes leakage change approximately linear, and doesn't affect nearly as much as going up.

Overclocking will draw power just as I noted above - exactly with the same percentage difference - only when the clock is reaching the overclocked area, which happens only when you're playing games or doing CPU-intensive tasks.

Undervolting will affect leakage, which happens 100% of the time.

So yes, when running in dynamically scaled environment, undervolting has more effect than overclocking. On desktop PC, running the same clock frequency constantly, the effect is the same.
[Nexus One General] willverduzco:
Very True. And I wasn't saying that overclocking, while at the same voltage, didn't draw ANY more power... I just am trying to say that (for example in this graph) overclocking only has a small effect on power draw until you actually change the voltage. In that same example, going from 3.4 to 3.8 GHz only adds about 6% current draw while at the same vCore, while going up a similar amount in clock speed.

I'd even wager to say that if you're slightly under-volted and as heavily overclocked as you can go at that given voltage, you'll save some trivial amount of power versus stock because of the fact that voltage affects power draw significantly more than clock speed. I would also wager that if you are at an overclocked speed and are at stock voltage, the amount of current and power draw will be almost indistinguishable to the end user, since things like display will almost always use much more power if the display is on for any appreciable amount of time.
[Nexus One General] Pommes_Schranke:
I wouldn't call 10% more peak power consumption big if you take in account that the cpu is only running at the max clock speed a very small amount of time. 90% of the time the device is sleeping anyway and even if it's not you barely need the max clock speed. But if you do you will recognize the difference.

On the other side the reduced voltaged can safe you power all the time.

That's exactly what I experienced.
[Nexus One General] Jack_R1:
Yes, you're right, and that's why I corrected myself in my second post. I totally forgot about the frequency scaling.
[Nexus One General] willverduzco:
Off topic, but this is why I love XDA. Rational debate over a subject by intelligent people, where there usually isn't flaming. Thanks added to the two of your posts. :)
[Nook Color General] Clienterror:
Hey all just a quick question. When I boot to cwr from rom manager and try to install any zips it wont mount the external card so I can select my zip. Maybe a bad cwr install?

Thanks!

Sent from my Nook Color.
[Nook Color General] RickOSidhe:
Was the uSD inserted before or after booting into CWR?

If before, then it should be showing up. I've had a few times, though, where the card is misaligned just enough that it's not making proper contact. If this is the case, then the uSD won't show up anywhere at all. Reinserting the card typically solves that.

If you're inserting it after you've booted into CWR, then IME, it won't mount. I don't know if that's designed behavior or not. *shrug*
[Nook Color General] eyecrispy:
In CWR, there is an option to mount sdcard. Did you try that?
[Nook Color General] robjective:
I had the same problem yesterday. CWR would not see the card or let me mount it manually. When booted into Android, the card was visible. I used a different card and CWR worked just like normal. Only thing I can think of is that there are some cards that CWR doesn't like?

I had just done a fresh FAT32 format on the card that wouldn't work. It was originally named "LA_NOOK" and thinking that maybe the name was the problem, I shortened it to "NOOK" and it didn't make a difference.
[Nook Color General] Clienterror:
Ok so I tried a different micro SD and it was fine. Thanks for the help, although I still do wonder why my 8 gig card fails and my cheapo 2 gig card works great O.o

Sent from my Nook Color.
[Nook Color General] idle0095:
dame it cwr wont see my sd card
[T-Mobile HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Development] Wdustin1:
ok i have an hd2 that the touch screen no longer works the lcd displays fine but it just wont respond to any touch. So i want to send it back to htc for repair but i have CM7 on it so i am trying to flash back to stock 6.5 windows i enter the bootloader and it says: PB81120 SS-B3

SPL-2.08.HSPL 8g XE

0x05

CotullaHSPL 0x50

And i put the stock on the micro sd and renamed it leoimg.NBH and it never tries to scan it just goes straight to serial and goes to usb when i plug in the usb but i cant make it look for the sd card i don't know what to do. can anybody help PLEASE
[T-Mobile HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Development] samsamuel:
no need for sd card (16gb card doesnt work anyway)

phone into bootloader

connect usb

when serial says usb

run hspl3

choose 2.08.0000

when complete, back into bootloader

serial -> usb

run the stock .exe
[T-Mobile HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Development] Wdustin1:
Thank you VERY much worked like a charm!
[T-Mobile HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Development] sebascalidoso:
im pretty new with the hd2 where i can find the stock rom for tmobile usa thanks in advance
[T-Mobile HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Development] Wdustin1:
Haha go back to the T-Mobile forum it is 2 post down from this one.
[T-Mobile HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Development] silverwind:
Just an info to share Bro...

I never fails flashing via Micro SD 16GB ;)

Am I lucky? I dont know, but I use Sanddisk. (I never try other brand with that capacity.

Cheers :)
[T-Mobile HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Development] AndrewSh:
Definitely, you are! It should not work.
[T-Mobile HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Development] StanleyTweedle:
Ummmm.... works on mine too..........
[T-Mobile HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Development] samsamuel:
sorry i should have been clearer

'' the 16gb card that ships with tmous hd2's doesn't usually work for flashing.''

(yea yea there are now gonna be half a dozen tmous users all saying they can, hehe)

((oh and i mean for stock rom flashing, of course, not android..))