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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Ilkinansr92:
You should appreciate for what they are doing for us and not ***** at them, if you dont like it ur free to leave
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
I was actually trying to be nice... But ok. Enjoy your bitter life?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Ilkinansr92:
Arrrghhh does htc-msm-linux @ 20110514_165614 Kernel and WisTilt2's newest Kernel use the same fix for SOD's?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] micoll:
That was the first comment i made in my first post, then it all went nasty.

I never started the nasty comments and i was nothing but polite until argg decided to get stroppy. please read back and you will see.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] micoll:
Don't make me laugh. Just be nice to people
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Ilkinansr92:
I know what happened but the forum rules state before u post anything you need to read the FAQ and forums to see if the issue has been already answered. I did the same thing when i was useing FRX04 and had to go through 800 pages.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] micoll:
I did that plus plenty of searches but could't find anything that was the same as my issue
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jesi.james:
Problem with Android Market

First off, save the drama for Facebook or some place else. The forum is for topics and helping people questions ans such, not for b*tching at each other. Okay well back to my question, I was using market to download an app and Android crashed and my phone reset itself automatically and well when I ran android again and i try to start market, market just force closes itself. I'm pretty sure this can be fixed by creating a new data.img but I'm a little curious if anyone knows why it happened? and if anyone else has had that problem(sorry if this was discussed earlier in this forum but I didn't see it when i searched so please don't flame me). By the way, I appreciate all the hard work that has been done to make android on the Rhodium possible :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] nasapunk88:
i don't want to continue this nonsense but rly.

This is just funny. I go to search, type Wpa wont connect, and BAM! look at this

etc etc

This oddly looks exactly like your question. Scroll down and read responses which cover a possible solution. Don't use TKIP.

I kept looking through search results to come up with other possible fixes; change what packages ur using, Try and get a working build from scratch without anything else(no SCBS), try the wifi-nvram.txt fix. etc etc

Did u attempt any of these to help solve your problem?

I mean I know you can't know everything and I'm not saying you need to and that no one should ask questions, but you can at least try and solve it from already talked about solutions. Wifi has always been a hot topic for most issues, there are so many posts covering fixes. That is all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
You can try to run the fix_permissions script - it's from CyanogenMod. This trick can prevent the need for a new data.img.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] micoll:
I know how web forums work and i use the search button and google all the time, and yes i did see this thread. I spent quite a lot of time searching before i posted. Unfortunately this did not work for me, i never had any problems with Android, WPA and my home wifi before, it worked fine in WinMo so i knew it was something that i changed in Android. I just don't know what? I thought it was deleting my .img file but it took a row with arggg before he decided to let me know that it isn't that. I didn't try the wifi-nvram.txt fix as i didn't think it would apply to me as i never had to do it originally. Some people now say i should still do that and others say not, so now it is something i will probably try or more than lilkely i will remove everything and start again.

My first post tells you everything that i have done until now. If you read it you will probably realise that i had seen the post your refer to. It was working just fine until i deleted my .img file in an attempt to rid my phone of the SOD's i kept getting.

I'm sorry for my problem getting out of hand and for some of my comments but i was only ever defending myself. It's just a shame that certain people here have to resort to nasty comments rather than helpful advice.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Tippfehler:
If you don´t want do make the wifi-nvram.txt trick. Maybe you can do

su

cat /data/wifi-nvram.txt

with Terminal Emulator

or open it with DroidExplorer on your PC.

Look at the result. If you can read the settings, wifi-nvram.txt is not your problem. Wifi is no problem since ages, it must be your fault, maybe your sdcard is broken. Make a new folder in your sdcard an start from scratch.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] VirtualRider:
Hi and excuse me for interrupting you,

it seems that i've accidentally set my display brightness too low on my RHOD100 and now the display stays black (no SleepOfDeath issue). Do you know a way to restore the brightness by chance? Theoretically, i could still use the phone but it's rather impossible to know what it's currently displaying. Is there a file i could replace without having to perform a full reinstall?

Thanks

VR

EDIT: Brightness is back! Just played around a little, so I'm not sure what exactly helped. At the end i had the device connected with USB and were in the airplane mode by canceling the pin input - maybe this will help someone in the future.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] bipinsen:
The discussion

Girls girls.. you're both pretty...

Seems like every forum, and thread has someone that comes off the wrong way. We just got over Joe Bleau in the Energy ROM thread, and now a single user is taking over this thread.

@micoll: You are totally within your right and within forum rules to post even the very basic questions. But along with that comes the responsibility of, yes, reading all of the 800 pages as Ilkinansr92 mentions. Developers here have become really good at putting out packages that are burn and go. That makes a lot of people who have no business messing with their devices (not saying thats you) jump into custom ROMs. I remember the days when flashing the wrong ROM would instantly brick your nice shiny Windows phone. You couldn't come crying then. I've read through all the posts that you linked earlier. Your first post was so wordy, that its impossible to know what you did or didn't do without keeping notes. Your follow up posts then became very terse, and one liners. I'm not sure what industry or work you do in your offline life, but when it comes to debugging and troubleshooting, quality of information is important - not quantity.

What I've noticed over the years is that developers like arrrghhh give very short, precise instructions on how to troubleshoot problems. This isn't a paid product that they are obliged to support. It is the responsibility of users to take those instructions, and parse them for information. That's just the way it is. That's also the reasoning behind nasapunk88 remarks.

I'm not a developer but I've been around for a while. The trick is - don't get too attached to your device or a problem. Take a break. Wait for the next release. Keep reading the thread. Something new will eventually come out that will fix your problem (and give you some new ones). Expecting, or even demanding support will only alienate you with fellow users.

With an upcoming FRX07 release, this thread will be dead anyway. So lets take a break. Enjoy the coming summer (if you're in the northern hemisphere), and keep our devices from taking a jump in the toilet.

Cheers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] micoll:
Thanks for your input and i appreciate everything you have written. I apologies if my information was not good enough but i have been unaware of this. I thought i was very thorough in explaining what my problem was and how i got to my particular problem. You're right, I'm not a technical person and very new to this. A bit of friendly advice and guidance is all i was looking for as i thought i had deleted something i shouldn't have.

I never expect or demand any support but I would have appreciated your kind of response to begin with or a reply asking for more specific information. Instead i got an unpleasant comment which i did not appreciate. It all went downhill from there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] gallahad2000:
Be more patient in the future when asking for help. Argh isn't the sweetest person on the planet but he's sharing his work with us and being pretty good about replying to questions. Places like XDA depend on people being willing to work with each other.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] championc:
Just to come back to a previously discussed issue, I know the Network Icon may only display the speed as 3G but is it possible that this icon is displayed even though the phone is connected with HSDPA ?

In addition, is it possibly the somehow set the phone to turn on and unlock when the phone rings ? If it's in sleep mode and then rings, I cannot see who is calling although I can answer it with the call button OK

C
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Yea, the phone kinda struggles to wake sometimes on incoming calls at times... We're working to remedy that, but it's more related to waking the phone than unlocking it...

I believe FRX06 has support for the H icon, but you need to be running the test RIL... which is feature-complete, we're working on implementing it for the next release (don't ask when).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
Out of curiosity, why is it important to you to know when the phone is using HSPA? It's not going to make any difference in voice quality or battery life, compared to "plain" 3G.

FRX06 was patched with the intent of enabling the H icon but the patch was wrong. The correct patch is still waiting to be merged into FRX07.

My phone wakes up and displays the caller ID. Probably this has already been fixed and will work fine in FRX07.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] championc:
I thought the download speed looked very slow so maybe just a bad signal but good to know that HSDPA is working under the covers.

Is there maybe a tick box somewhere in the settings that I have missed ?

I see you have FRX06+ in your sig, where is 6+ available for download ?

C
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Market speeds are atrocious, I don't think anyone quite knows why. A few have tried swapping around different versions of the Market, with little to no success.

No, it's several issues all happening at once IMHO. New kernels with panel wake fixes and perhaps the new audio routing code will assist in resolving this bug.

It's a custom build of his, basically all the merge requests he's been making wrapped up in a system image.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tovarish:
I can confirm that in the netherlands the download speeds that I get are the same in both wm and android even though wm shows H(SDPA) and android shows 3G. Its only cosmetic IMO.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] CosmicBlue2000:
Hi,

as you can see on the left side, I'm from Germany. We have some strange letters here like äöü, in small and big (ÄÖÜ).

When I use the hardware keyboard, I always get the big one. Or the other way: I can't write small äöü.

I'm not sure, but I thought, that's a problem, that refeermatness fixed about one year ago back in his releases...but I might be wrong about that.

Anyway, any chance that it will be fixed in near future? Or is there a way I can do it myself?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Tippfehler:
All äöüÄÖÜß are working here normal. Have youe tried F22s rootfs?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
Delete folder

I can't delete the FRX06 folder nor change the name, I'm hoping I don't have to reformat any help thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Is the card read-only or something? How are you trying to delete it..? I'm confused, you've provided no context.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
It's the installation folder. I was trying to start the Android part it would go to the Linux and get stuck. So I would restart and restart then I tried to delete the whole folder from there it gets stucks in winmo or in windows(main computer) it would say has stopped or was disconnected.

I think it's my sdcard!

Also the last line says, "16.6655271 mmcbik0: error -110 transferring data"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Oh I see. Do you have a SD card reader?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
I don't, any other options? Wait can I use the one in my printer?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Don't think so. My mSD card came with a USB converter plug - very handy.

If you don't have anything else, I guess try to pop it out & back in, see if you can get it to work right. If not, ask your friends...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
That's what I thought going to borrow one tonight thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] gmanfuzing:
bahahaha i love being right !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Avatar28:
Definitely sounds like a problem with your SD card or its file system. Try putting your phone into mass storage mode when you plug it in and do a disk check on the SD card that way. It will probably be a little slow but better than nothing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
Definitely the SD card itself, a filesystem error wouldn't give that message.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] pitflyer:
I strayed from my trust TP2 for a while, so trying to redeploy the Froyo bundle. I need Dev Tools -> Term Emulator so I can fix a wifi issue by overwriting wifi-nvram.txt.. but when I install the development.apk that its AndroidApps, I don't see 'Term Emulator' on the list of options under 'Dev Tools'.

I don't see the 'Superuser' app either but can't remember if that is the reason i'm not seeing Term Emulator -- but I woulda thought this build came with all that inside it. I did start fresh on an SD Card and my Froyo build comes up just find (Rhod210) . I just can't find Terminal Emulator to replace the file..

Any thoughts on what obvious step I must be missing?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] hl41:
You can download both Terminal Emulator and Superuser from the market. Although I'm not sure what you'd need superuser for exactly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] nasapunk88:
this build is "Stable" enough for the public therefore the developer apps were removed. Inside AndroidApps folder are some programs to get you started But you can easily download others from market and install all of them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] hl41:
After enjoying the flamewars... For those who aren't that technical, I'd like to suggest the following:

When you get a working Android setup you should backup your FRX06 directory to your SD card and computer. e.g. I have FRX06 and FRX06-20110518.

If I get a SOD/run the battery out/install something idiotic such that Android stops working, I can just boot to WinMo and rename the directories and boot Android again (after making another fresh backup of course).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
Will do thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
Is it dying?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
I had a SOD this morning and that's when the problem started!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
Right now FRX is shipped pre-rooted, enabling any app to access any of your data or connections without any limitation, and it would be completely invisible to the user.

Superuser closes this gaping security hole by enabling root escalation prompts. Most ROMs that are rooted ship with this.

Unfortunately, just downloading it off the Market doesn't work with our setup, we have a very peculiar way of setting up our systems with the rootfs relative to all the other ROMs out there.

Theoretically, it should be possible to make this work by:

(1) remove the two bind mounts found in the rootfs init for su

(2) remove the outdated /system/xbin/su (in system.ext2)

(3) copy in a newer, compatible su that Highlandsun extracted from his G1 image in /bin/su (on the rootfs). Ensure that permissions are set with chmod to 6755

(4) create a symbolic link in /system/xbin/su (in system.ext2) to /bin/su (on the rootfs). This mirrors the setup of su with its location in /bin with a symlink from /system/xbin of native Android devices.

Edit^3: Okay, confirmed working! Follow the instructions exactly, and everything should work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] semthril:
Hi,

From what I know I have RHOD100. I downloaded the bundle from the first thread and did everything according to the instruction.

Android run for like 2 hrs. I used both EDGE and WiFi, installed some apps, synchronised gmail, greader and stuff and then for no reason it freezed. It was not responding to anything and showing only one screen, the only option was to remove the battery. So I did. WinMo seemed to work without any problems, so I booted to Android again and it froze after 1 min of use (in no particular application or something). Now everytime I boot, everything works fine but after some time it freezes.

I did format the SD car, had fresh WinMo rom installed and I don't use any O/C things.

Any ideas why does it happen?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jokove:
hi guys,

gr8 work!!!

i installed the bundle as described on my rhod100. everything went as expected except the wifi. it turns on , finds the networks, i can chose and type the wap key. it connects and stops on obtaining IP adress

can i do something??

thx
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] husam666:
wep is not working yet, either change the encryption type of your router to wpa, or download an app called wifi-ace to fix wep :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] eww245:
So where does this leave /bin/su? our PATH points to /bin first, so that would be the su were using. No? I guess that should be replaced also.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rpierce99:
Freezing on boot is a known issue for some carriers with this build. You have a few choices.

1) Wait for FRX07 which will have the fix included

2) Enable airplane mode as soon as android boots, and the edit your APN settings so they are proper for your carrier. Disable airplane mode after your APN is set up properly.

3) The fixed library is posted here in this forum but you're going to have to do your own research to find it. If you can't find it you probably shouldn't be trying to use it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jokove:
My security type is WPA so i thought that i shoudn't face any problem

can anyone guide me through this issue i installed wifi ace but i didn't know how to configure it

thx
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SteelLife:
Ok turn on wifi the normal way you should get scan connect disconnect, then exit out go to wifi-ace click on you ssid then go to adhoc or find the option which allow you to see OPEN, SHARE, and two other, take it off of open and play with those. Then go down to key management and put your password in it's the last option and give it a go once I get my sdcard up and running I will give better explanation, that's off the top of my head!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
We don't actually have a /bin/su. It's bind mounted from the rootfs in init.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rpierce99:
If you want to know what "su" is executed by default with the "su" command at the shell (ie an app doesn't specify a path) just run "which su" from the shell.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
I updated the instructions for installing Superuser (and enabling root escalation prompts) above when I thought I got it working. However, turns out it's still not working. It's only popping up the notification for itself when it updates the su binary. With everything else it's just denying permissions. In the logcat I get:

su (2993): Couldn't open database

su (2993): request rejected (10073->0 /system/bin/sh)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
That should immediately tell you that you messed up the permissions on the su binary. Obviously if it's actually running as root, it will never run into any "permission denied" errors. You either didn't preserve the owner/group (0/0) or you didn't set the setuid/setgid bits. chmod 6755 /system/bin/su.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
My goodness, the oracle of XDA.

You were right, I copied in the su again, and set the permissions to 6755 and now it all works.

So why would Superuser work for Superuser itself but not for other programs with incorrect permissions set on su?

Also, the binary should be in /bin/su not /system/bin/su right? That's the first thing that had been tripping me up.

For anyone who doesn't want rogue apps to be able to read any and all data on your phone, I've updated the instructions here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13938595&postcount=1294

Install it, and don't run any non-open source root requiring apps.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mrife:
Android Converting my text message to a multimedia message

I am attempting to send a text message to an email account. As soon as I get to ".com" in the email address Android converts the text message to a multimedia message. An alert pops up saying converting to multimedia message. If I send the message it never goes out because I have multimedia turned off for my phone number because of data charges (AT&T). I want to send the message as a text message to an email address. I tried Windows Mobile on the same phone. It works fine and goes out as a text message even though the recipient is an email address.

How do I force Android to send the message out as a text message?

Is this an Android issue in general or an FRX06 issue?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Entropy512:
I keep on forgetting to post to xdandroid-dev to start a discussion on this...

Changing market won't fix the problem - it's DownloadManager + our filesystem that is the problem.

For whatever reason, the way DownloadManager writes to our file system causes things to be VERY slow. I don't know if it's forcing sync writes or what... Running Wireshark during a market download shows that our receive buffer is filling up and we're sending zero window notifications to the other end - classic signs of a host bottleneck and not a network problem.

It actually gets worse when on wi-fi - might be some sort of weird race condition with filesystem writes.

Changing BUFFER_SIZE to 16384 in Constants.java of DownloadProvider ( http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=pl...135312e66ed40e9f3d40e6470e93c57f1aef8;hb=HEAD ) and rebuilding seems to help significantly - it still sucks compared to other devices, and I don't know if it is relevant or not, but browser performance seems to get worse if you do it. Thanks to multiple one-week business trips I haven't had a chance to properly investigate this - the browser thing could be pure coincidence.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Interesting read, and yes you should start a discussion about this on the ML :p.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] pdawg17:
When I used to run GB builds I noticed that Market downloads and installs were MUCH faster than any Froyo build I have tried...that is both 3G and wifi downloads...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
Everything on the GB builds is MUCH faster than on any Froyo build I've tried.

Not sure if it's a quirk of the Froyo build I'm trying, since I've been only on GB for a while, but in Froyo the download bars don't seem to update in the Market as well, whereas in GB they did.