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[KIN Two Software Development] klausef:
How was the ##PROGRAMNITT menu discovered? Is there a solid chance any other menus like it exist?
[KIN Two Software Development] delivery_dragon:
I wonder if there's another code we can enter in the "secret" menu other than 00000..... just a thought
[KIN Two Software Development] klamation:
You mean to get into the secret programming menu? Since you already have the proper code, there's no reason to use something else. However, if you suspect access to some other secret secret area, feel free to play with it and let us know what you find. :D
[KIN Two Software Development] SchwassKIN:
Menu

My wife recently got the "LG COSMOS 2" and I had some issues with it. So I called verizon and they had me go through some troubleshooting. They code they had me type in was ##7764726251 and then all Zeros after that I believe there were six of them. i did not try this on the KIN TWOM but It just led me to believe that this is something verizon does now to thier new phones.:)
[KIN Two Software Development] gerrypw:
General format

This is the general format to get into the service modes. My motorola had this and both of my lg's did this. It usually includes the word program and the model number but there are some variations. The LG Cosmo 2 is also know as VN251 hence ##program251.
[KIN Two Software Development] delivery_dragon:
Well 00000 is the "default" programming code, Right? so maybe there's a different code that could be used to access root or go back to pre-production specs
[KIN Two Software Development] klamation:
I understood what you were suggesting. I don't think a different code would get you into a different menu. The code is a passcode to gain access to the PROGRAMNITT menu. However, if you feel I'm wrong and find something else, let us know what you find.
[KIN Two Software Development] johnkussack:
That magic number is called SPC (Service Programming Code) and was given freely at the now-forgotten kin-tips.com by conflipper.

In this phone is 000000 but could have been 123456 or any random number of 6 digits.

You can change it if you use [.....] tools which access Qualcomm protocols and ways to operate.

There is no other code here.

Note that i denied this, but don't negate other ##XXXXXXXXXXX numbers.

Kkthxbye!.
[KIN Two Software Development] lilhixson:
BILL

I don't have a clue about hacking but started playing around a little and anyways: i read where different names came up under the usb when connecting the kin. I found one of the usb ports readin BILL and i'm not sure how i did it. i'm just wondering if anyone else has done this and if not, do i need to figure out how i did it?
[KIN Two Software Development] klamation:
I'm not familiar with what you mean, so if you find you can duplicate this, please explain how to do so. :)
[KIN Two Software Development] lilhixson:
what i mean is from what i've read most devices are shown up as USBfn Composite Drive or something along those lines. I started fooling around with it a little bit and under devices and printers got it to show up as Bill. I'm not sure if this will show any other useful information such as any drivers that have not already been discovered. if this might help ill get everything off of it and try to get it to show up again.
[KIN Two Software Development] bro2baseball:
Well you have the right goals, anyway. Isn't finding (better) drivers for the Kin the most important thing?? Right now, the drivers we have only allow us access to a small part of the file system. And until we can access more of the file system it's difficult to do ANYTHING.
[KIN Two Software Development] Heratiki:
Does anyone know what ports and urls (IP's) that the Kin Studio used or was a part of? Just thought I would ask. Have we done any sniffing while the Kin Studio is trying to be accessed? I've been doing many things with the HTC HD2 and have only just recently gotten back to looking at my Kin Twom.

Heratiki
[KIN Two Software Development] gerrypw:
With all the Kins that are no longer working you'd think somebody would be willing to crack it open and extract the rom physically and attempt to access the data. Does anyone have a non-functioning phone?
[KIN Two Software Development] klamation:
I would love to know how you plan on physically extracting the ROM. I know nothing about the process.
[KIN Two Software Development] gerrypw:
NAND/ROM reader...We use to do it back in the day on 8-bit machines and thinkpad bios access. Have to know pinouts. Major risk of bricking.

Does anybody know how they put the updated firmware on there? I know somebody has asked this already but refresh my memory. Is that the driver we are missing?
[KIN Two Software Development] gerrypw:
Not all damaged phones have rom issues. NAND/ROM readers are sometimes used to extracted data from damaged ROMs. From what I was reading from the other posts, which sometimes we fail to do, are phones that just lock up and have messed up keypads.
[KIN Two Software Development] gerrypw:
What??????
[KIN Two Software Development] concordsst:
wierd

I am a forum noob but I suggest trying a hack method for the zune hd I tried liberator and for a short time the zune memory storage was showing up blank.

---------- Post added at 07:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:20 PM ----------

went to this site in google chrome and showed a list of compatible browsers I think...

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Script error.

Netscape 5.0 (Windows NT 6.0) AppleWebKit/535.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/13.0.782.220 Safari/535.1
[KIN Two Software Development] jaxx10:
Where can i get the Studio software for this phone ? :confused:
[KIN Two Software Development] klamation:
Sorry Jaxx, the Kin Studio was a website provided by Microsoft. The original Kin One and Two were the only phones able to use it. The "M" versions do not use the Studio, since Microsoft ceased offering it in January of this year.

You can still use the Zune software from Microsoft to manage the phone (media only: pictures, videos, and music).
[KIN Two Software Development] SchwassKIN:
Looks Like The hope has Died. BUMP.
[KIN Two Software Development] slimeq:
i believe it's just .exe
[KIN Two Software Development] xboxfanj:
Or cab possibly
[KIN Two Software Development] slimeq:
oh i see what you mean. not totally sure how this information would help though as we can't seem to get anything onto any part of the phone, nor do we have a means of opening any files that aren't already available.

idk. maybe a contact exploit of some kind? we can open contacts, and we can put contacts on the phone, so theoretically it's at least sort of possible.

of course, this is all just random speculation.
[KIN Two Software Development] warpurlgis:
.cab is an installation filetype for Windows CE. It's very possible that the KIN supports it. From what I've heard and read the KIN devices use a modified version of silverlight.
[KIN Two Software Development] Christo27:
KINO

Hi, sorry to post here, but I didn't want to bump the other thread... but does anyone know where I can download the KINO files? They were uploaded to Multiupload, which doesn't seem to be working right now
[KIN Two Software Development] johnkussack:
They are reuploaded dude.

Just the drivers left, as i dont have that zip anymore (iirc).

As it was just a shortcut for doing it yourself with infwizard from libusb-win32... i did not saved them.
[KIN Two Software Development] anonymousdeinonychus:
.CAB

I'm not sure if any of you guys have messed around with it, but the phone (Kin TwoM) definitely does at least generate cab files. It does this when you send an error report (Alt+Shift+Y) to your email address. Inside the cab file there are a bunch of clg files, which in order to read you apparently need to have Windows SIM from the WAIK. I'm downloading the ISO for the Windows 7 version now.

My question is - has anyone looked into the error reports that the phone sends before? I figure they might hold some valuable information about the file system.

Also, in breaking my original Kin Twom I found the 8Gb memory chip on the board. If it were possible to unsolder the original chip and resolder another with another OS built in, does anyone know how to program for the phone at all? It's my general understanding that it's impossible to write to the phone because anything that is altered is automatically reset. I'd assume that this is because of a PART of that chip that isn't writable. For example:

When I began to run out of space on my old Kin TWOM (because of music, pictures and videos), I had about 350 Mb left to play with. That's still quite a bit of space, but the phone would no longer let me take video AT ALL. It would record fine for 15 seconds and then the camera app would immediately lock up. I could exit the app only to find that the normal black background was replaced with WHATEVER THE CAMERA SAW! It was a very cool glitch and I tried to take screenshots, but the background remained normal in the screen shots. Even in the Zune app, instead of a black background it was a viewfinder.

The only thing I could come up with was that there is memory on the chip that the operating system itself recognizes as blank space, but it can not write over it. If that "blank space" is actually what retains the restore software that is launched every time the OS files are altered, then I'd say the only real way around it is to replace the chip completely. It's a Microsoft phone, so it could be that they partitioned part of the memory chip with a completely bizarre file system...like f***ing FAT-X or something.

Just a thought, please let me know what you think. And please correct me if I'm way off. I'm trying hard to figure a way into this damn thing myself, I'm just not half as experienced as you guys.
[KIN Two Software Development] xboxfanj:
You would most likely need a chip from a phone with the same processor (which is tegra 1). iirc, the only other device with that is the zune hd.
[KIN Two Software Development] anonymousdeinonychus:
The Samsung Vodafone 360 M1 also used it and the board on that phone doesn't look very different. Just by looking at it, it seems like the same exact design but with things moved around to make room for an extra memory chip (two 512mb chips instead of one 256).

Edit*

Nevermind. I just looked at the complete tear down of the Kin TwoM on iFixit and now I'm confused. The Samsung MoviNAND chip supplies the 8gb of storage space as I thought it did, but where the heck is the 256mb RAM? Is the MoviNAND also used for that? If so, that completely explains why my phone started acting crazy when I was taking video while running low on space. I have a Kin Twom sitting right in front of me and there is no other memory chip other than the Samsung 8Gb. What gives? These things are said to have 256mb DDR.

Edit again*

Unless the RAM is directly on top of the processor. According to the teardown its a Numonyx package. A little blatant for a teardown, but I'm guessing that's the DDR SDRAM? Why the hell would they stack that on top of a 600mhz core? Wouldn't that indicate that even if this phone were to run something like Android and all the apps that come with, it would likely overheat? Granted it does take 720p video without overheating...unless that's the reason the framerate is so choppy sometimes. This phone is baffling. Sorry for all the edits...
[KIN Two Software Development] xboxfanj:
That's not true. They use the s5pc100 processor by samsung. If you are going to swap the memory chip so it runs android, the software would have to support tegra. Considering that this is the only device with this version of tegra (the other tegra devices are dual and quad core so they wouldn't help most likely), I think you guys are out of luck.
[KIN Two Software Development] xboxfanj:
Part of the problem of android is that it is very processor dependent. For example, tegra drivers would be needed in the kernel as well as in the zip. And android kernels are device dependent and would be needed to be built from scratch.
[KIN Two Software Development] anonymousdeinonychus:
Thanks for all of the information, guys.

As far as the space reservation setting in Zune, that had nothing to do with it. I'm glad you recognized the glitch, though. I was really hoping there was a possibility that if it was just a glitch it could be exploitable, but I'm sure that's been looked into.

I will definitely look into the .cab file that is generated for the error report.

Edit:

Done. Windows SIM doesn't open the files at all, claims that they are not "valid." In notepad they are garbled, but legible for the most part. The "MICROSOFT-PMX-DEBUGSTRINGPROVIDER-CHANNEL.clg" files (3 of them) are interesting and seem to focus on 3 different types of activity. If you guys get the chance you should look into them. They touch down on the phone's power management, window sizes and USB connectivity. I'm not sure if any of the information is useful at all so if you've already looked at them and ruled them out, then I'm just beating a dead horse. I'm really curious to see how John's web os is going to work, so I'm going to go look into it now.
[KIN Two Software Development] cadogan32:
Cab files

These are the files that are inside the .cab file after i extracted them:

APPLICATION.01.clg

APPLICATION.02.clg

APPLICATION.clg

GlobalTraceLog.clg

MICROSOFT-CDMA-RADIO-LOG-CHANNEL.01.clg

MICROSOFT-CDMA-RADIO-LOG-CHANNEL.02.clg

MICROSOFT-CDMA-RADIO-LOG-CHANNEL.clg

MICROSOFT-CDMA-RIL-LOGGING-CHANNEL.01.clg

MICROSOFT-CDMA-RIL-LOGGING-CHANNEL.02.clg

MICROSOFT-CDMA-RIL-LOGGING-CHANNEL.clg

MICROSOFT-CDMA-RIL-LOGGING-CHANNEL.clg-backup.clg

MICROSOFT-PME-OPERATIONAL.01.clg

MICROSOFT-PME-OPERATIONAL.02.clg

MICROSOFT-PME-OPERATIONAL.clg

MICROSOFT-PMX-DEBUGSTRINGPROVIDER-CHANNEL.01.clg

MICROSOFT-PMX-DEBUGSTRINGPROVIDER-CHANNEL.02.clg

MICROSOFT-PMX-DEBUGSTRINGPROVIDER-CHANNEL.clg

MICROSOFT-PMX-DEBUGSTRINGPROVIDER-CHANNEL.clg-backup.clg

MICROSOFT-WINDOWSMOBILE-CELLULARLOGPUBLISHER-CHANNEL.01.clg

MICROSOFT-WINDOWSMOBILE-CELLULARLOGPUBLISHER-CHANNEL.02.clg

MICROSOFT-WINDOWSMOBILE-CELLULARLOGPUBLISHER-CHANNEL.clg

MICROSOFT-WINDOWSMOBILE-CELLULARLOGPUBLISHER-CHANNEL.clg-backup.clg

MICROSOFT-WINDOWSMOBILE-CONNECTIONMANAGERETWPUBLISHER-CHANNEL.01.clg

MICROSOFT-WINDOWSMOBILE-CONNECTIONMANAGERETWPUBLISHER-CHANNEL.02.clg

MICROSOFT-WINDOWSMOBILE-CONNECTIONMANAGERETWPUBLISHER-CHANNEL.clg

MICROSOFT-WINDOWSMOBILE-CONNECTIONMANAGERETWPUBLISHER-CHANNEL.clg-backup.clg

Microsoft-WindowsMobile-UnifiedStorePublisher-Channel.01.clg

Microsoft-WindowsMobile-UnifiedStorePublisher-Channel.02.clg

Microsoft-WindowsMobile-UnifiedStorePublisher-Channel.clg

Microsoft-WindowsMobile-UnifiedStorePublisher-Channel.clg-backup.clg

Not sure if that helps,or if anyone has seen them yet.Another program i found was "Windows Embedded Compact 7".Supposely there is a file in there called "Readlog" that can convert .clg files to text to view.I know that the kin runs under a version of WinCE but not sure which one.I would try it myself but dont have fast internet to download it.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee504625.aspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/downloads/download-windows-embedded-compact-ce.aspx

Just wanted to give everyone an update on what i tried.I got visual studio 2008 from my friend and installed it.That program by itself opens up the .clg fine,but not really sure what to make of the stuff.Kinda looks like a hex file with some data so im trying to get it converted over to text.Gonna try those files that "anonymousdeinonychus " mentioned and see what pops up.

Didn't have much luck with it.When i tried to convert it to text it would say there is a sync error.I don't know what to do.Anyways,here is the readlog file if anyone else wants to try it out.

http://depositfiles.com/files/r8ymgl6a7

http://depositfiles.com/files/qrldxxvrf
[KIN Two Software Development] DustinWolf:
Im New, but ive got an idea....

Hey! Im new to all of this, and i may not know much, but i got this phone recently, and after reading, ive got some things to say/suggest.

It seems like ALOT of people are trying to access the KIN using methods for ZUNE and Windows Mobile. But...

FIRST of all, JUST because it has ZUNE doesnt mean it operates like one, &

SECOND of all, Windows CE & Windows MOBILE are NOT the same thing. Windows Embedded(1) Compact (Formerly Windows Compact Embedded, Or Windows CE(2) for short) is an embeddable windows framework used in a number of devices, and things such as Windows Mobile, Ford SYNC(3), and other technologies were based of ce/embedded. The KIN OS is based on the 6th version of Windows CE (WinCE 6.0), and so it MOST LIKELY works differently from Windows Mobile. SO, instead of trying to use Windows Mobile drivers and methods, i propose someone find a way to get a hold of the drivers (whether through getting the trial Windows CE 6.0 Platform Builder(4), or finding a copy of the driver floating around, or other means.). IN FACT, the USBfn drivers are LISTED under the Drivers List in Windows CE 6.0 on the Windows embedded website. (compositefn.dll)(5)

Refrences:

1 - http://microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/evaluate/what-is-windows-embedded.aspx

2 - http://microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/evaluate/windows-embedded-compact-7.aspx

3 - http://microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/evaluate/windows-embedded-customers.aspx

4 - http://microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/downloads/download-windows-embedded-ce6.aspx

5 - http://microsoft.com/windowsembedde...px?fsr=1&prodcat=25&wince=2&WEItemsPerPage=10

(Note: letters in CAPS are NOT yelling, they are there for EMPHASIS.)

Again, im a noob, but i thought i might give my insight for, even though im not good on the doing aspect of things, im great at reading up/researching things. i hope this helps! :)
[Vibrant General] WilliamKingX17:
Does anyone know how to get TV Out working and what can be viewed on TV?

Sent from my Vibrant running GingerCloneR2
[Vibrant General] soltheman:
You need a cable like this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Multimedia-AV-A...54243?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item255da489e3#

Notice the three bands on the jack. You don't necessarily have to get that exact listing, but the cable that you purchase should have three bands (two audio, one video.)

Also, I don't think Avatar (if that's what you're trying to play) will work due to copy right restrictions. But any other pictures/videos/etc should be viewable via this method.

Hope this helps.
[Vibrant General] WilliamKingX17:
I guess my question is what all can play through the TV Out?

Sent from my Vibrant running GingerCloneR2
[Vibrant General] Charpie:
Everything. Your phone literally comes up on your TV.

By the way, there is a flaw in the phone where you have to switch the video cable with one of the audio cables.
[Vibrant General] WilliamKingX17:
So one of the audio cables either red or white acts as the yellow?

Sent from my Vibrant running GingerCloneR2
[Vibrant General] richiehd:
My phone does not have that issue. Red yellow white is red yellow white.
[Vibrant General] kemp77:
I don't think it is the phone, but the cable you have is correct for the phone. If you try to hook up a different device i'd be willing to bet the cables would be crossed.

I took a random cable I had laying around and tried crossing the colors around until I got something to work.
[Vibrant General] ntellegence:
It's the wire. Try it matching up if not switch. Also it must be turned on in settings just in case you did not know.
[Vibrant General] corradoswapt:
on my cable the red is used for video out. weird but it works
[Vibrant General] sudhirmangla:
If you have hady Cam U can use cables from handy cam.

While connecting to TV reverse red and yelow.

i.e connect red cable to yellow point and yellow cable to red point.

It will work
[Vibrant General] MegaPrime33:
I think Samsung also has out a micro usb to hdmi cable as well. However they want something crazy like $80 for it. I would imagine any standard micro usb to hdmi would work, but I'm not sure.
[Vibrant General] Tarzanman:
I can tell you from experience that not all 'camcorder' (1/8" headphone plug to 3 RCA) cables will work.

The first cable I got didn't work at all, no matter what combination of colors I tried.

I made sure to get a cable made specifically for the Vibrant the 2nd time and it worked perfectly.
[Vibrant General] vapotrini:
Got to agree with that, cause I have a cable here that refuses to work no matter which color combination I try. I ordered after reading a user's experience claiming it works on the Vibrant. Doesn't work for me.

Here's the cable: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000I1D0BW/ref=oss_product
[Vibrant General] jrosarioaz:
TV out

I tried the audio jack to tv and it did work partially, but not completely. If you can get it cheaper a micro usb cable might be better?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cronozNL:
Hi there,

Currently I'm using Darky's v9.2 Extreme Edition and I'm very satisfied (except for a bit battery drain on which I'm still trying to improve).

The thing is, before upgrading to Darky's I was able to set 2 different backgrounds for lockscreen and unlockscreen.

Now when I select a wallpaper it automatically becomes the lockscreens wallpaper as well. There is no way I can seperate the 2 anymore by my knowledge.

Is there any way to have a different lockscreen again?

Thanks in advance!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nizno:
Same problem here,

Hoping for some answers soon! :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Riverriz:
Yup. U need to flash darkys rom with the samsung gallery3d. The default gallery is asop thats why u cant choose a seperate wallpaper

Sent from my Green Robot Device
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cronozNL:
Is that the only way? If I have to flash it all over again then nvm. I just customised everything. Isn't there an easier way to do this? Like use darkys configurator for it?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Riverriz:
If you flash using darkys configurator and unselect 'wipe device' all ur settings will stay the same. And if you flashed a theme u can flash the theme again straight after flashing the rom. Non of your settings/customisations will be affected.

Sent from my Green Robot Device
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sine.:
You can install the Modded 3D Gallery directly from the app "SGS Tools" without flashing a new ROM, by Fr4gg0r, here : ht*p://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=775154

(Idk if it's exactly what you need, try it ;))
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azzledazzle:
its the same with me, you can only change lockscreen wallpaper when your using 'samsung unlock'

with the other 3 - android unlock - puzzle unlock - epic unlock it will not work
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frozenblade:
can someone please explain it to me very detailed? i dont understand so much from the tuts i have read.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blinkydamo:
Are you rooted and s-off`d?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frozenblade:
yes, i have :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pwraggcan:
Put cwmod on the root of your sd card. Download terminal emulator from the market. In terminal emulator type

su

press enter

then type

flash_image recovery /sdcard/nameofrecovery.img

press enter

Replace nameofrecovery with whatever the name of the file is.

When you reboot into recovery it should be cwm 3.0.0.5 (should be amber font)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frozenblade:
it shows file not found, even when i write the name of the file.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pwraggcan:
From the htc stock rom, you need to do it from your pc using fastboot. It won't work with terminal emulator.

Which rom are you running?

Do you have adb installed on your pc?

If you have fastboot, put the recovery.img in the tools folder of your sdk, start up your phone to the bootloader, connect your phone with the usb cable then open a command promt, navigate to the tools folder and type

fastboot flash recovery nameofrecovery.img

Press enter then type

fastboot reboot

Should take aboot 5 seconds
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frozenblade:
i am running revolution HD, i just tried that and it said failed <remote: not allowed>

why must it be so damn hard? damn crap