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[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
Has anybody gotten hold of the sprint playbook yet? I feel like it should have been out by now, confirming or denying the 21st rumor

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] blackdragon79:
Count me in
[Epic 4G General] globalninja:
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/16/sprints-eb13-froyo-update-ready-for-epic-4g/
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Where is your video.
[Epic 4G General] edonnelly:
Definitely agree with that.

So if a youtube video is posted but nobody watches it, does it still make a sound?
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
Just another rehash.
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
Yeh I knew about that, someone posted the screenshot of it in here too...but a couple of the people in this forum work at sprint stores. Normally they can confirm these rumors because they get a playbook detailing how to provide support...I'm pretty sure its different than that support page, its like an internal memo...

Any sprint employees out there reading this?

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
Post links we will do the rest
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
It references the same document already posted here.
[Epic 4G General] ilostmypistons:
Great idea maybe samsung john can get help with links I'm sure hes had a few sent to him. He is here to help us right.lol
[Epic 4G General] johnyardavid:
Lol
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
eb13 is going to be out with in a week. Which means gingerbread couple weeks after that!

Froyo EB13 release imminent for the Sprint Epic 4G?! - http://pulsene.ws/11uST
[Epic 4G General] jeremiah.rs:
I saw that article yesterday, and got excited, but honestly there isn't a shred of evidence to prove what they're saying, they could've just as easily pulled the imminent part, as well as the build number out of their ass, unless I'm missing something...
[Epic 4G General] dcowboys2184:
I like where this could go.... If we do this right it'll be epic,.. Never Again catch phrase ... Look at the lebron james nike commercial that the ppl of cleveland redone... That was classic...

Something like this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvgD9HNTMkM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Epic 4G General] mykie242:
You're missing something.

There is an RDF file on device.sprint.com, and an unfinished document on ars.samsung.com, which has since been deleted.

The build number is genuine, (Build EB13 means it was compiled Feb13, 2011).

Now we just wait and see if Sprint actually comes through and releases it, or if it gets rejected and sent back to Samsung for another round of testing and recompiling.
[Epic 4G General] abrognlie:
Irony: http://phandroid.com/2011/02/16/sam...-customer-loyalty-for-tenth-consecutive-year/
[Epic 4G General] ruze:
The only thing that seemed to have worked as far as action in the form of a Froyo drop was the class action threatened by T-Mobile users. Otoh, it seems to be a half baked build based on all the issues being reported by those folks.
[Epic 4G General] themirthfulswami:
Captivate Gets Official Froyo

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/16/samsung-captivate-on-atandt-gets-android-2-2-all-that-froyo-hasn/

Ah well. Someday we'll get asked to the prom..
[Epic 4G General] stud_muffler:
The page engaget referring to was pull out same way the page for epic was.

:cool:
[Epic 4G General] mxcoldhit:
Sprint puts up and takes down Froyo how to guide

I think you guys might find this interesting. Sprint had put up a how to guide on how to install froyo on our epics and then took it down. I didn't see the site with my own two eyes, but someone copied and pasted the contents.

http://phandroid.com/2011/02/16/sprints-eb13-froyo-update-ready-for-epic-4g/

Sent from my Shoe.... I mean my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G General] themirthfulswami:
This is so sketchy... wth is going on?
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Oops, when you follow the links on the phandroid site, it looks like they were actually talking about the how-to guide on the samsung site, the one we've all seen before.

Nothing new.
[Epic 4G General] globalninja:
*maybe* they were testing the support sites for a release. I may be like that december rumor that got pulled back. We will see.
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
How come when you read the home things it start talking about the captive and mini kies. Why would sprint do that?

I still call shananigans

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[Epic 4G General] thetruejay20:
I wonder if anyone got it installed before they took it down?
[Epic 4G General] globalninja:
That just looks like related/common questions section you usually get after a document.
[Epic 4G General] yazeldinho:
even when it was up, there was no file linked to the download button. It was just a place holder.
[Epic 4G General] Quis89:
Samsung phone sales won't be affected....

A mob of babies will only cry for so long until they get their diapers changed. Then they'll be quiet until they get hungry. But in the end they'll never leave so long as they are pacified occasionally.
[Epic 4G General] thetruejay20:
Lol how lame!!
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
My apologies, but we are so human-time-centric that people can easily take advantage of us. For instance, if you were to say to a volcano that its eruption was imminent, it wouldn't be getting anxious for at least a few thousand years or so. It's all relative to the viewer.

Sprint's been around for a while so to them, imminent could mean a decade. To man dying of thirst, telling him water being brought to him imminently would be translated as seconds or even less.

So imminent doesn't really excite me unless you quantify the term.
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
Epic Failure. Thank god i have a friend that is an exec and hes getting me out of my eft with sprint for nothing. Gonna try my hands at and htc phone for a change ill miss super amoled but i cant deal with the bs from sprint or samsung. You know now that the link has been stripped i bet there is a new build in the works. A nd the saga continues, this is starting to smell like a bad soap opera? froyo was making a magical return only to end up in the hospital with a terminal brain tumor while the love of its life the epic 4g falls prey to the temptations of htc. HA we should make a youtube vid on that idea. Days of our Androids.
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
froyo will not be out in a week 2.4 will be out before we get froyo amd it will not be a couple weeks after froyo we get gingerbread. how has sprint changed that you would think that? it has taken them 7+ months for froyo so far. sprint is getting worse at servicing phones. they refuse to strip out whatever bloatware is causing their problems, and dont really care that you want froyo they get your money every month and laugh at us. we need to draw the spot light right on top of this we need to get youtube vids up. maybe someone has a band and can make a song like the guy that took on delta when they broke his guitar and refused to pay. we gotta blow up messgae boards and fb and twitter pages. we gotta get sites like phone dog and engadget to pump the dissatisfaction.
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
att galaxy just got their 2.2 upgrade..
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
If we don't hear anything about an updated playbook today then the 21st is looking more and more unlikely.
[Epic 4G General] Ranger093:
Thunderbolt, Nuff Said
[Epic 4G General] xjman:
Yep, and they also put up sites like that for internal, and tester use.
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
I used to work for a very large ISP with the 3 initial name and you build content in a development environment and then you push it live to production. This kind of stuff doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling about anything they are releasing.
[Epic 4G General] bjhill2112:
IMO this all points to an imminent froyo release. Sounds like all the carriers are internally getting ready for the update to hit.
[Epic 4G General] xjman:
Yeah, thats the right way to do it, not everyone does it the right way, look at Samsung, Sprint, and this phone in general.
[Epic 4G General] Darkk69:
Wow, after reading through the comments on the other website this could be a bigger problem than we thought.

I hope I am wrong but why pull the update page so quickly?
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Please.

At this point thy should be scrambling to get gingerbread out to all carriers.

Froyo is asolutely nothing at all to get excited about anymore.

"YAY THEY FINALLY PORTED SOMETHING THAT'S A YEAR OLD AND 2 REVISIONS BEHIND! WOOOOOOOOOOT!"
[Epic 4G General] deisel:
While your at it we should spam this on Samsung Johns twitter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSNT4Y6-5fI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Epic 4G General] bnl552:
I *****ed enough that sprint cancelled my 2 yr contract and put me on month to month. Now when they get a dual core phone I will cancel my account and resign up and get a new phone. Or might switch to another carrier but I don't really lik any of the other carriers either so I'm not sure.
[Epic 4G General] thepervster:
well to let you know about the web page being pulled, I do build websites and what alot of people do is to build the webpage while it is hidden then when you are complete you make it live by submitting the new page to the site to check it and make sure it works correctly then you pull it off the server until it is ready to be live all the time.(it only takes about 1 min. to change from being live to being hidden and vise-versa) usually no one sees it in the small amount of time you need it live to check everything out. but it does sound promising because i usually get the info from my customers about a week in advance so i can have the page built in plenty of time. the worst thing would be for them to release the update with no info page.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Gingerbread is almost nothing more than a themed froyo with a new keyboard. We would see no difference between the two. So I think froyo is fine.

Sent from my non-rooted, stock eclair Epic.
[Epic 4G General] tokyomonster:
Gingerbread does have additional improvements that are not as obvious as the eclair to froyo switch, including performance enhancements. (But nothing as drastic as implementing JIT, as they did in Froyo)
[Epic 4G General] DiGi760:
This isn't the first time we've seen supposed update pages posted and pulled. It has happened on both Samsung's and Sprint's site before. I hope we get the update Monday, but there is still no actual evidence we're even getting it anytime in the next month.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Doesn't Gingerbread offer hardware accelerated UI elements? I want that.
[Epic 4G General] abrognlie:
So my question is: Who is really responsible for getting the update out for Froyo? Does Sprint have its own programmers that hammer away at it, or do they just do testing and send back any bugs for Samsung to squash?

Honestly, just curious.
[Epic 4G General] magoo5289:
They receive the OS and firmware updates from Samsung. QA, ratify no issues, then bundle in their own bloatware on top of it. Qa again, release. any failures, it reverts back to Dev
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
Oops wrong thread
[Epic 4G General] zman519:
http://www.google.com/m/url?client=...0QFjAD&usg=AFQjCNHXSz0ZO8Uz3iU_D-AWkJ_goLj6jQ

It was United not delta. And you no what ever since then I have not flown United and I don't ever plan to.

So there's no reason our youtube videos would not work.

See the stock price part.

And remember United brang this down on there own head buy being pricks.

Sent from my ComBadge
[Epic 4G General] running_the_dream:
I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
The new htc thunderbolt is a new android device for verizon

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[Epic 4G General] cohiba_man:
Froyo will never be released for the EPIC. Get over it.
[Epic 4G General] Protoroll:
Nope still no hardware acceleration.
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
And you deduced this from which crystal ball? :D
[Epic 4G General] SF-IT-Guy:
Reality is that I only care about when (if) the source code is released for Epic Froyo! Then we will see the magic that the ROM developers can do. DK28 (with a few of the custom ROM's) is really working great and very stable as it is today, on my phone at least. So the heck with Sprint, long live the developer community!
[Epic 4G General] asrielx1:
No froyo in the playbook

Just checked the playbook for this week, still no Froyo.
[Epic 4G General] dieselg5:
Of course not.....:mad:

what date is it up to? 2/19 or 2/20
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
That would be the playbook for next week which would have covered the 21st.

Lost hope turns into nightmares which turn into reality for Galaxy S owners...
[Epic 4G General] globalninja:
How is it any different from the evo?
[Epic 4G General] globalninja:
Hulk smash!!!!
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
I should have made that....

Lost hope turns into nightmares which turn into reality for Galaxy S owners... #NeverAgain
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
I can only blame myself. Somehow I get my hopes up EVERY TIME. What is that saying, "fool me once - shame on you . . . fool me twice - shame on me."
[Epic 4G General] lazyart:
That's the sound of me ditching stock 2.1 and testing community ROMs.
[Epic 4G General] daryelv:
Sorry to break this to you, but Sprint may not allow you to cancel your contract and sign up as a "New" customer. Usually they require a 90 day period between when you cancel and when you can be a "New" customer. They "May" allow you to use the 2-year upgrade option on your existing account though. I'd check before canceling.

-Daryel
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
I've been with Sprint for 9 years now, but I may find myself back at Verizon on a Motorola LTE device before years end.
[Epic 4G General] flopez76:
This has nothing to do with FroYo but the tags for this thread are pretty funny; Egypt, protest, & revolt lol

Anyways so the playbook says nothing about a FroYo update for our Epics, well that just sucks. But I'll wait and see until I lose all hope. Really getting old now if only we lived in a perfect world were Manufactuers and Carriers could give updates in no time or at least give us some insight in what's happening.
[Epic 4G General] fixxxer2008:
good luck with that. :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] Slovak65:
That's not true, I broke my contract with my BB, paid the ETF, then resigned a new 2 year contract to get my Epic 4g
[Epic 4G General] daryelv:
Interesting... do they show you as a 6 month customer or a X year customer? Did they create a new account or use your existing account? Did your phone # change?

-Daryel
[Epic 4G General] Ranger093:
The graphics processor DESTROY's the evo's and beats the epic's has better processor too.
[Epic 4G General] ProDriver77:
Just because the Playbook doesn't show it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's possible that information is being withheld due to the issues that have already resulted from them havin to pull it "out of play" in the past.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
No offense to anyone who works for sprint on the level that the playbook is distributed to, but haven't you figured out that for some reason, you guys either have a lack of information, or misinformation? If you all read your playbook, my guess is its lacking info, and the misinfo is coming from bosses, techs, etc that seem like they are in the know. They probably just check XDA for the current rumor, and say its insider info... thats probably the closest connection a sales rep has to the actual developers (who should, by now all be new hires). Just sayin... have a few here that post playbook info week of supposed updates, and it is either wrong or absent info... I am waiting for certain leaks a little higher up to have something to say. Plus, that whole thing about finding a page entitled EB19, etc... has this been confirmed by any high level leaks, or is this just someone trying a web address and seeing if anything comes up??? What if its just like notes, and not actually pertaining to an actual build, just the work done that day, any breakthroughs, or obstacles they find....?
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
Eh...

For one, I don't think it was ever actually in a playbook before. The whole dec. 26th pretty much got dispelled early since it never showed up in the playbook.

Which leads to:

Second, the whole purpose of the playbook is as a heads up to employees, pretty much in case consumers have questions or problems. Seeing as how these galaxy s froyo updates have certainly caused their share of problems (ala canada), I certainly don't think they would hang their employees out to dry and not give them a chance to prepare.

Plus it just doesn't make much sense for them to be "sneaky" about it. You have to remember, all these rumor dates are just that, rumors. Its not like we got dec. 26 and now feb 21 from official press releases or anything like that.

And all this backlash they've gotten from us, its not like it came from any concrete promises. Sure, I hate the words "soon" "ASAP" and "near future" just as much as the next xda user, but those are still arbitrary and noncommital answers, so you couldn't actually put them on the block for it.

And the t mobile update? Very much a public announcement. And their phone was out longer than ours, so I don't think they were worried about making too big a show of what should have been a routine update; remember that the general public doesn't know better. (In fact they prbly hate updates, having to redownload all those apps and all :p )

Alllllll that said; the recent behavior of the vanishing support pages and samsungjohn, albiet very strange, gives me hope. I feel we're close..not feb 21st, but close. I say first week of march

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
I hear ya, just have little faith in the knowledge of the average sprint sales reps, maybe they dont read their playbooks, or know their phones. If they did, I would have had 2.2 in September. So somewhere in the sales floor, misinformation, or forgetting of information they are supposed to know happens.

Regarding the web pages under construction, etc... I dont really trust web devs either, quite a few in the past couldnt seem to tell the difference between 2.1 or 2.2, or they just werent updated in a timely fashion. Actually look at the sales page for the Intercept, says 2.1, got one in the mail for the GF the other day (theyre free...), and it was preloaded w 2.2.1.... I guess that device had bricking issues too... and that has been over 2 weeks since the OTA? So if I were one waiting on stock for that update notification, I would get my update.zip here, unless you want a trip to your local sprint store... the intercepts were an easy patch I guess, but who knows what they botch this time... ya know, I was one of the patient, optimistic, and half-full people, until the SamsungJohn joke... I was just posting in General>General on another SJ thread, none of it was rulebreaking, but it was ushered to General>Off-Topic by the time I hit submit... nice... He would do good to pop in and say hi, im still here, not a douche, just trying to figure out how to type whatever it was that was so HUGE...

So any thoughts on the EB19 page, and the others, if they really are any evidence of anything but work on the software??? Also, has the playbook ever been proven RIGHT? Like with the Moment, did the playbook announce the OTA on time? As that was the same situation, long overdue update, partially adding to the flames of this one, as a lot of people here are former Moment users...
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
I just don't understand what the hell is taking so long. And here's the really funny part for me. My desire for Official 2.2 has only really started since I became a regular reader of XDA. I think even with its faults stock 2.1 Epic is pretty damn good. All I have to do to realize how good I have it is to think back to my previous phone, the Touch Pro. (*chrk--pttui!!!* spitting noise). But the more I absorb here the more I realize I'm actually missing. Damn "relative dissatisfaction" -- heh heh.
[Epic 4G General] magoo5289:
I'm not sure either, the leaked build from December seems to be very stable for the most part, they have had more than enough time to work out any kinks. At this point, I'm leaning more to a political hold than functionality.
[Epic 4G General] bohiti:
DK28 = Nov 28, the Monday after Thanksgiving. It was compiled 2.5 months ago, or 1/5th of a year ago. I can't decide if I'd rather the holdup be technical or political. Both piss me off. :)
[Epic 4G General] ZoSo925:
Usenet has been alive and well for over 30 years, someone post EB13 :)
[Epic 4G General] DeeODoubleD:
I came to XDA when I had a couple of issues and called sprint and was treated worse that when I was with Cricket. WOW!

Anyway... needless to say I greatly appreciate this website. I'm happy with what I get for what I pay and this site filled in the holes of functionality for my nerdy butt
[Epic 4G General] SkepticalOptimist:
Try the nebula rom. Fast and stable froyo based rom.
[Epic 4G General] tisoyboy2:
2.3 was already in the works when the Epic was released. Google said that 2.3 is designed specifically for multimedia and gaming which the Epic was given the hardware for (hummingbird and adreno 205). So it would make sense for Samsung to skip 2.2 and put their efforts into a more suitable update.

I purchased the Moment and it had 1.5 on it and I installed 2.1 upon purchase. But from what I have read, the Samsung Moment & the Hero skipped 2.0 and went straight to 2.1 when they updated them. So seems like this could be common for some phones.
[Epic 4G General] APOLAUF:
Doesn't the Epic have PowerVR SGX 540, not the Adreno 205?
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
They aren't skipping froyo. They have to many test builds out there.

Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
[Epic 4G General] asrielx1:
I work in sprint retail as a tech and I don't claim to
[Epic 4G General] asrielx1:
Sorry double post. I work in retail as a tech and I totally agree that our info is lacking/incomplete. I just though id let you guys know what I can see. I hope just as much as the next xda'er that I'm misinformed ;)
[Epic 4G General] imtjnotu:
Gingerbread march 5 2012
[Epic 4G General] bcparker:
I doubt it will happen, but I don't think you should put it completely out of the question. As stated before, the SAMSUNG Moment was released with 1.5 when 1.6 was already out and 2.x around the corner, and Samsung/Sprint skipped 1.6 altogether and updated to 2.1 so there may be some validity in this "hint," but I still am very doubtful. Hopefully once I get my Epic, it will have the official 2.2 preloaded.
[Epic 4G General] Ryjabo:
If they were skipping FroYo and going to just release Gingerbread, someone would have said something by now. The thing about big secrets like this is that they can't be kept secret.

Having said that, it would be a smart move on Samsung & Sprint's part to do this.