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[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
there hasnt been any change to the rumor i am merely speculating on what will happen from past expirience. if a rumor gets really hyped up maybe like 4 or 5 days been that rumored date sprint will tweet it down. on a side not i know alot of people say we were never promised froyo so shut up and stop complaining. The sprint hotspot app was a big reason why i bought the phone. Wireless internet that supports up to 5 devices thats what the corporate rep explained to me. The wireless hotspot feature will not natively work with eclair. It does however work natively for froyo and the app shipped with the device out of the box. Doesnt this also support the general notion that sprint from the get go had every intention of bringing up froyo? i say over this week we spam the sprint fb and twitter pages and really put the screws to them to give us froyo. we should have a unified message that we all post the same exact message so they know it is coming from a community and not just some fringe population.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Yea they definitely had intention i remember when i bought it the rep said froyo should be out in a month or so.

But anyways we'll see what happens...:cool:
[Epic 4G General] dr_gibberish:
I was told the same thing and I bought it on launch day! I think it's a little overdue ;)
[Epic 4G General] Gersonian:
I will add this... I think that we are used to getting a glimmer of hope and then having it squashed. However, I think we are also used to hearing rumors and backing off of Sprint/Samsung (mostly Sprint at this point, IMO), and then getting let down. I sort of agree with adamw, that we cannot back down because we get a silly screen shot that is clearly released to get us to calm down and leave them alone. We should continue to badger them because it seems to be the only way they seem to realize updates are a priority to even a subset of their customer base, who are loud and have access to the community that tells consumers what to and what not to purchase.

I, for one, will not let the screen shot keep me from letting Sprint know that I still expect the update.
[Epic 4G General] lazyart:
The hotspot thing is a non-argument. My son and daughter each have Evos with Froyo and the native hotspot isn't there-- in its place is the Sprint Hotspot. That's a $30/month cash cow they've got, and they're not giving it up.

Froyo will come. When the Sprint playbook comes out later this week we'll know for sure if the 21st is real. I'd personally take CM6/CM7 over OTA anyway.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Im just wondering where the hell SamsungJohn is with his promised post explaining everything that was supposed to happen today. He is in Texas, so its only 2:23PM there as I post this. I sure hope he actually comes through.
[Epic 4G General] apatcas:
You Do realize the we need the OTA for CM, right?
[Epic 4G General] flopez76:
That's exactly what I was thinking too! Lets wait and see hopefully he comes with the goods.
[Epic 4G General] roghaj:
Why did his thread get shut down? There should be a rule that mods need to follow that makes them explain why a thread is closed.

Along the same lines, there should be a rule that Samsung should follow that forces them to explain why my dock doesn't have audio out.

-Roger
[Epic 4G General] spyderfry:
Don't hold your breath guys. That thread that samsungjohn started got closed. The mods didn't even say why. My guess is it was a major troll thread???

:confused:
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Didn't it get closed because of several rude comments that had to be deleted from people who accused him of being a troll?
[Epic 4G General] bjhill2112:
Just keep an eye on his posts or his twitter.
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
does that account even exist anymore? (his xda one)
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
My understanding is Mods closed it b/c of the repetitive trolling also was posted in all Galaxy S forums but He's supposed to be making another thread today....time will tell
[Epic 4G General] bjhill2112:
Yeah, looks like the search doesn't keep. Account is still there.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Yes, in fact he has responded to my PM in a way that is very consistent with him being what he says he is. It can't hurt to treat this as an opportunity.
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Infract or ban the rude people.
[Epic 4G General] the_scotsman:
Guys, enough of the off-topic posts...xda will deal directly with any company reps. Keep the discussion on topic please.
[Epic 4G General] DangerZone1223:
Looks like they have a new build they're working with:

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EB13.rdf

I checked last night to see if there was a EB13 build, and there wasn't. So, looks like it was added earlier today for internal testing. I'm not a software developer, but if they have a new build they internally implemented just today it looks like they still have some major bugs they still have to iron out.

Guys, any idea how long it takes for final verification of a build? I'm just ASSUMING this is what's going on. I could be dead wrong.
[Epic 4G General] tubasteve:
from my readings usually the "leak/release" of a form is +15 of the date is usually when public would get it. im just saying from what ive read and done.

-ts
[Epic 4G General] DangerZone1223:
Based on that, it looks like the earliest we'd get it is on the last day of the month. Sounds plausible, but looks like they missed the rumored date of the 21st. Let's just hope they don't find any other major bugs.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
It is on topic. He heavily implied that he would be giving us some answers today in a new thread:

Maybe I mistook what he was saying, but it sounded like he may have some Froyo information since that is pretty much our main gripe right now. Can I take it by the "xda will deal directly with any company reps" that he will not be posting here with updates. If so that is disappointing.
[Epic 4G General] the_scotsman:
Well then I suggest you wait for the thread :)
[Epic 4G General] formula84:
This is interesting thank you
[Epic 4G General] BWFBezerk:
Why not? I hope they find every single bug, I don't want a buggy release lol
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
Dude you will be waiting forever for something "bug free" it is their bloatware crap that they can't get working. Of they are so high on the bloat release a stripped down build and then release small updates like how qik didn't work out of the box. Then they released a small update to fix that and gps. I have to say this is bs that they still haven't gotten their act together they deserves a good tongue lashing. They insult us by releasing this screen shot only to pull it back and mark my words there wont be an update on the 21st. Once my second line contract is over im gone ill buy a sweet new sammy phone on t mobile and sprint can kiss my butt. This company is too dense to get it. The only way they will change is to take bread out of their mouth. Revolution!
[Epic 4G General] h8uman:
Can wait.

2.1 is OK. Wasn't too much of an issue when I purchased the phone.

If 2.2 is coming out, I can wait till these amazing DEVS here at XDA get their hands on it, dissect it, and produce some amazing ROMS.

I, like all of you, are at Sprint's mercy. I have been happily married with them for over 10+ years, and this is NOT the biggest issue I have ever seen being a customer of theirs.
[Epic 4G General] Heelfan71:
So disgruntled. Over a phone. Good luck with TMobile. :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] i.mykol:
Samsung and Sybase Hint at Gingerbread ???

Was just wondering if anyone picked up on the Press release from Sybase? it states that the Galaxy S and SII "Advanced Enterprise Security (AES)" Feature. it will front everything a Business would want to have in a smartphone and enable all sorts of nice features. Here's the Short List:

Security management – enforce device encryption, remote lock/wipe, strong password security, and corporate sandbox management

Application management – deliver and control the applications that run on Samsung Android devices

Configuration management - provide control over various ports (Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, camera, microphone), roaming, and more

Exchange Client Configuration – configure native email client

Over-the-air (OTA) deployments – reduce the complexity of managing devices by automating OTA deployments, configuration and application management without the need for user intervention

The Kicker is the Statement before that

"Advanced Enterprise Security empowers enterprise IT with the most comprehensive device management capabilities on Samsung Android devices (Android version 2.3 or later)"

Does this mean that Samsung and Sybase have been working on getting out a Gingerbread Update and Skipping "Froyo" All together. One can only hope.

Am i keeping my fingers crossed ... uhh .... No, but the article is there for anyone to interpret. check it out for yourself.

*** Since i have not hit the 8 Post Minimum, Bleh:mad:, you'll have to find it yourself on Engadget "Samsung working with Sybase and Cisco to make Galaxy S II enterprise-friendly" Posted on Feb 13th ***
[Epic 4G General] :
Link

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/samsung-working-with-sybase-and-cisco-to-make-galaxy-s-ii-enterp/

Thanks for the tip. Perhaps this is related to the "announcement" we keep hearing about. Honestly I can't see anything other than 2.3 that it could be related to (given all SGS devices inclusive).... well anything that is worth getting out of bed for anyway.
[Epic 4G General] mcdader:
When I talked to the reps at CES they said unofficially they were working on Gingerbread and hoping the carriers would skip froyo or release both together. Let's hope.
[Epic 4G General] OperationMove:
I like this phone regardless if we ever get 2.2. I wouldn't get mad if it never saw a Froyo update, because when it comes down to it I still like my phone regardless. I love the design, and most everything about it. I would love to have the official update, so that I could run a 2.2 Rom with as many features as the 2.1. I personally am still running 2.1 Rom (BS1.6) because performance wise it destroys all the leaks (For obvious reasons, we know why). To me, this phone is still a phone. So long as the things that work when I bought it stay in decent shape I will be happy.
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
No offense but we can't even get froyo why would you delude yourself into think gingerbread is right around the corner. When when elcair was all the rage the word was "porting from donut to eclair is difficult but eclair to froyo will be a breeze" now we can't get froyo and everyone is saying eclair to froyo is tought but froyo to gingerbread is a breeze. This is all utter crap. Carriers must stop bloating our phones and making updates seemingly impossible.
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
Very disgruntled. And im not the only one.
[Epic 4G General] Mook1e:
While I'm not as skeptical or jaded, I do believe that even if this announcment is real, it is most likely pertaining to the international Galaxy S. As such, this will have little impact on an actual official release of Gingerbread to the Epic. If I'm wrong, I will be happily so.
[Epic 4G General] iil:
http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=559&AT_ID=356773
[Epic 4G General] UltimateNubs:
That link wasnt very nice. For a sec i actually believed i could download the update.zip.... oh well im getting used to broken dreams....
[Epic 4G General] compuw22c:
That's really enough to make me believe 99% its happening. And I like to think I'm pretty skeptical. Let's just hope they don't play games lagging on releasing the source code... YAY YAY YAY FINALLY!
[Epic 4G General] edonnelly:
I think there may be some over-reading of the press release going on. The part that mentions 2.3 is just a part of the press release that is touting the benefits of the Sybase program. It lists a bunch of things it can do, and to me that bit about the 2.3 is just a disclaimer saying that 2.3 is required to have all of these benefits. The Sybase Afaria program can run on Android devices with 2.0.1 or higher (Afaria Clients). They could certainly make that program available to our phones without even a froyo update and it wouldn't contradict anything in that press release.
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
There was a similar page on their site back in December for a release that never happened.

Edit - also no mention of GPS fix.
[Epic 4G General] Ex0d0s:
The page in December only had the title and that is it. This page is still being worked on. The download button doesn't work for now. [Hopefull]
[Epic 4G General] formula84:
Funny if you read through the whole thing it seems they are using this as a template and is not polished yet... read towards the bottom.
[Epic 4G General] giantmidget:
I hope this comes through
[Epic 4G General] iil:
I believe it is the same url.
[Epic 4G General] DiGi760:
You probably should be skeptical and jaded. The "announcement" was Samsung John announcing once again in yet another subforum that he is here on XDA. That's typical of the type of information we get from Sasmung.
[Epic 4G General] ss4rob:
The text mentions that any release will be able to upgrade - I really hope I'll be able to go from my stock DK28 to whatever is released - I am not looking forward starting over, although I know the devs will be ready with other work arounds.
[Epic 4G General] ss4rob:
It also doesn't mention the bug where you sometimes can't hear a person on a call unless you tap speakerphone. It does mention where in a call sometimes the soft keys don't work on the first or second tap.

As good as DK28 is, I'll take some progress!
[Epic 4G General] iil:
I don't think it would as your discussing bugs found it builds never meant for the public.
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
Agreed - with the exception of the GPS.
[Epic 4G General] DangerZone1223:
Amazing find! Nice job! How did you find this? If this is the case, looks like this is the real deal! Might even make it ready for the rumored date of Monday!
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
thats prolly cuz it is just a leaked version issue.
[Epic 4G General] pissinguoff247:
Yeah, and a bunch of schmucks were flaming me and trolling it because of it. I've been quiet around here since then. But this new Samsung John business has me very excited, plus this one is WAY more complete than the one I found was.
[Epic 4G General] meinken:
Looks like the page has been pulled. Anyone have a screenshot they can post?
[Epic 4G General] stud_muffler:
Page is still there, here is a quote:

:cool:

Here is a screenshot (http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=518394&stc=1&d=1297797121)
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
So is this for real? or Just a test version they are running?
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
Here it is as a .PDF
[Epic 4G General] qbking77:
It sadly doesn't address the keyboard skipping keys.....
[Epic 4G General] obiwrx_3zero3:
Official 2.2 build EA17 will be out next week is the rumor.
[Epic 4G General] stud_muffler:
From Android Central: Froyo EB13 release imminent for the Sprint Epic 4G?!

:cool:
[Epic 4G General] obiwrx_3zero3:
Cool, too bad Android Central will be wrong when 2.2 drops.
[Epic 4G General] jnadke:
Their source is probably from this thread :-P

Just because AndroidCentral posted it, doesn't make it fact :(
[Epic 4G General] obiwrx_3zero3:
EA17 FTW!
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
Why would you want EA17 when EB13 is almost a month newer?
[Epic 4G General] algorhythm:
What do the build #s mean again?

I figured the second letter is the month (A-L) and the #s are the day it was built, but what's the first letter?
[Epic 4G General] stud_muffler:
It's a year: E = 2011, D = 2010 etc.

:cool:
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Who bought this for valentines day???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0tVw8_CFMA
[Epic 4G General] iamchocho:
Anyone else notice:

Looks like the're really prepared...
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
lol my coworker got one of those for her birthday a few months ago, lol

btw what does this have to do with, this thread lol :p
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
Most of the "rumors" are just regurgitated cow turds that someone else got from somewhere else. EB13 is the latest "build" that is verifiable.
[Epic 4G General] dieselg5:
[RUMOR] EB13 via Androidcentral.com

http://www.androidcentral.com/froyo-eb01-release-imminent-sprint-epic-4g

Sent from my Epic P.O.S.
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Here here :) Thread merged, and exactly the right approach taken.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
ummm

How do you flag a thread?

Dee deee deeee
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
little exclamation thing on the upper right hand corner of the post...
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Top right of your comment. Triangle with exclamation point inside.
[Epic 4G General] the_scotsman:
More crap posts deleted...NO MORE...:rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
its the 'you screwed something up, try again' symbol from Download Mode, only no cute little android with a shovel (although we could use him in this thread ;) )

I never noticed it until someone mentioned that it existed... should be red or something....
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
Daymn this is so ANNOYING waiting for the real 2.2

My Car dock and desk DOCKS .. the audio OUT doesn't work on them! It's the whole reason I bought them!

Sure I can use bluetooth, but when you're using high bitrates you can REALLY hear the artifacts!!

Fk samsung and sprint! RELEASE IT ALREADY!
[Epic 4G General] flopez76:
So the article on Android Central basically means that we should be getting a release soon?
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
No, it means that they had something they could speculate about to drive traffic. It MAY be coming soon, or it could be another December 26th.
[Epic 4G General] sryans2004:
I dont know, the weird thing is we saw a picture saying that the whole dec 26th was never going to happen, we have yet seen anything or anybody say 21'st wasn't going to happen (yet).. Unless I'm missing something
[Epic 4G General] Matty Mo:
I honestly do think we are getting 2.2 real soon... i guess its my esp n or something

however wouldn't be surprised if we didnt
[Epic 4G General] tokyomonster:
I think Android Central was on to something.

The URL they give, http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=559&AT_ID=356773, no longer works, but if you look, you can see it was for a Sprint device. I'm guessing they killed the page after it was reported on AC.

If you take the '3' at the end to a '2', however, you get this: http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=559&AT_ID=356772 - an unpublished (or at least unpublicized) page detailing how to upgrade the Captivate to 2.2 -- which isn't officially out for the device.

Further more, the page was edited last on 2-11-2011, so it's recent.

just sayin'
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
Just to clarify things, Android Central in and of themselves weren't on to anything, as that URL originated from this very thread earlier today in the first place. ;)
[Epic 4G General] iil:
I found the link yesterday through google and posted today.

What is interesting is last night it had EB01 posted. So it looks like they updated it again this morning.
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
Yep, I was trying to make sure you got credit for it man. Which, I wasn't trying to step on AC's toes either, I have an account there as well and lurk there as well myself. But I knew the genesis of what they reported came from here.
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
even after all this flaming of sprint and sammy they still cant get it together. how come we havent heard from a any sprint employees anymore? they on lock down or something? trying to weather the storm?we have to devise some sort of protest or verbal showing to either pressure or draw as much attention to our dissatisfaction with sprint. the only way we will get anything is through pressure.
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Thread cleaned. The next person who violates the rules in here is receiving an infraction.
[Epic 4G General] DangerZone1223:
Reminds me of this: http://lolbyte.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/mI1RH.jpg
[Epic 4G General] poit:
I think you answered your own question. Have you read any of the threads SamsungJohn has started. Imagine yourself a sprint or sammy representative; you make an honest effort to open lines of communication and you are paid back with nothing but abuse. Why would you ever come back to this forum?
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Abuse?

He comes here with zero proof he is actually from Samsung to begin with. What did he expect would happen in that thread? So fine, he proves he is from Samsung and says that he will give us "all of the details"on Monday, then that thread is locked. Monday comes, and he starts another thread stating that he is getting ready to make a HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT. For the most part people are cordial, including myself. No announcement in that thread for the rest of the day. New thread started today saying "lets start this over". In this thread, he asks us for our questions, not pertaining to future hardware release dates or SOFTWARE, so that he can start a poll.

So basically, all of this build up so he can start a poll? No **** people were angry. It made me angry. Samsung, we want you to fix ALL of these problems, not just the ones that get the most votes. What the hell is this, like a version of phone survivor where we have to vote off "minor" bugs so that eventually Samsung can fix the winning bug?
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
How John should have done this...

1) create account, PM mods, admin... get them onboard right away, so Svetius could make a form letter intro in all the SGS forums, then create the one thread in general general... post an explaination that he is well aware of Froyo complaints, and has researched, and found other issue (gps, etc) that are on his list... then list issues he already 'has on his list'... with a warning from svetius re severe consequences for stupid, non constructive posts like 'wheres my froyo!!!!'. then take note of any other complaints other than the huge obvious ones.

After that, move on and do whatever the hell he hopes to accomplish with ranking our grievances... Im just wondering, if they prioritize issues with the official roms like 2.1, and things like time without service, gps, etc. obviously fall low on the priority list, as they launched before fixing... is this what they are planning on doing now??? Have no idea what ranking our complaints would accomplish, but hes the expert.

After that, his first request from us... give us something worthwhile in return, something good enough to sway maybe half of the #neveragain people...
[Epic 4G General] rufflez2010:
Yeah for model. D was 2010, e is 2011, dome randomness thrown in there
[Epic 4G General] iil:
Here is another url although it just redirects to what we already know.

http://www.samsung.com/us/d700/softwareupdate/froyo/
[Epic 4G General] shahin26:
Payback time for samsung for delaying 2.2

Hey Guys, This is just an idea and i know i may get flamed for this but i thought i post it anyways. Im thinking of making a youtube video explaining the lack of support from samsung. Same goes for Sprint. I was, like many others, told by sprint that Froyo will be out soon and that was early september 2010! I have a hard time dealing with the fact that I have a great phone that is running a literally out dated OS! We all talk about not buying another samsung or discouraging others from buying one. So lets actually do it.

So what Im suggesting is that everyone who is not happy with the way things are going to make a video with their point of view and post it on youtube. if enough people do this then many videos with samsung issues come up when someone searches for this brand on youtube. Its the least we could do. You can call it revenge or whatever you like.

Please let me know if you are on this with me.

SAMSUNG YOU BROUGHT THIS ON YOURSELF.
[Epic 4G General] lviv73:
im with you,find a clip of Samsung promising 2.1 on Behold 2 and Epic 2.2 before 2011.
[Epic 4G General] shahin26:
http://www.wirelessandmobilenews.co...-vibrant-and-captivate-coming-by-year-en.html

????
[Epic 4G General] themirthfulswami:
I still have the tweets I got from @GalaxySSupport promising Froyo by the end of the year.
[Epic 4G General] vooman:
I am hoping to buy a new Samsung phone "ASAP"...