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[Epic 4G General] Gersonian:
Although I have done my fair share of feeding the froyo frenzy, I think this is a great idea. Now, let's just hope that everyone notices this sticky!
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
Yeah we really have to draw attention to the issue let's start a revolution like egypt against the empire that is sprint. Lol jk. I di think that screen leak was to rub our noses in it. Probably by the original leaker teaching us a lesson.
[Epic 4G General] socos25:
You keep saying you were promised.. Is this something that happened when you purchased your phone, because I really feel left out. I was promised nothing when I purchased my phone.

I think you are mistaking rumors on a forum for promises from a company. There is a big difference, but if it makes you feel better, I promise, at some point you will have Froyo....

As Jesus your lord and savior would say, "Good things come to those who wait!" Now spend a few minutes and find that in the bible!! :-)
[Epic 4G General] socos25:
Its better if you don't. Some of these people in here that live and breath the latest release have lost many years of their lives. Don't buy into the hype. Enjoy your phone. After all it is just a phone and not a portable defibrilator.:p
[Epic 4G General] iamchocho:
Thanks for this thread

Thank god, this thread was very needed. I am so tired of constant new rumor/stupid posts about speculation on 2.2 with absolutely no basis. Now at least its in 1 place that I can ignore instead of in every other thread.
[Epic 4G General] jasonsf:
Don't forget 2.4 Gingerbread Again

http://www.rethink-wireless.com/2011/02/09/android-24-gingerbread-title.htm
[Epic 4G General] Kitteh298:
im happy with my leaked froyo. was bumpy when i first got it but its ok now i think :3
[Epic 4G General] imtjnotu:
This place is gonna go crazy when the 21st comes and we get no update
[Epic 4G General] jtw78:
The crazy thing is that with the sticky-thread creation we're now seeing some more substantial and credible rumors. Screenshots and URLs are better than anything we've seen up to this point (barring DK28 of course). I'm not going to bet the farm on 2/21, but it's nice to see some tangible progress on builds being generated by Sprint (via the URLs that noobl sussed out).

I'll keep feeding them my hope if it will generate more evidence of real progress rather than a blank stare from a pimply-faced kid at the Sprint store.
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Yes, but now the crazy will stay in one thread. ;)
[Epic 4G General] running_the_dream:
That's an interesting, slightly depressing article. As stated in the article, naming 2.4 Gingerbread will lead to further confusion among consumers and will lead more to the conclusion that the android base is fragmented, which it is. Unfortunate that these companies full of smart people can't get their acts together.
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
At least now thanks to what noob posted there can be a clear picture (whether taken positive or not) that there has been continual work to some point being done since DK28. Don't know if anyone else has taken the liberty to manually poll through the entire potential URL history since DK28 using the addresses in noob's post, but here's a rundown of every viable version that can be found using the same link template:

DK (November): nothing past the 28th

DL (December): Revisions on the 11th, 15th, 16th, 17th, and 29th

EA (January): Revisions on the 7th, 16th, 17th, 18th, and 30th

EB (February): Revisions on the 1st, 7th & 9th so far

Not saying this should quell anyone or everyone's frustrations by any means, but it at the very least kills the notion according to some rumors and/or assumptions being made that nothing's happening or going to happen, or that Samsung & Sprint are locked in a stubborn immovable staredown with each other over upgrade fees or the like. That being said, I do think Sprint obviously could stand to do a better job of getting across what the above illustrates. They don't have to be remotely so detailed about it as it wouldn't mean much to the average layperson, but they could have made a point to give a monthly update saying in more general terms, something along the lines of 'we've made progress via X number of revisions this month, but still trying to work through some issues', perhaps even naming what a few of those stumbling blocks were.

Regardless, while as anxious as anyone else, I still say its a positive we didn't have prior to noob's discovery and should be taken in that context.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Idunno what jeebus said, but I think what people were talking about, was Sprint sales reps saying that 2.2 will be released soon/end of month/whatever. I got mine first week and was told end of september.... this by a Sprint sales rep, who most here know say whatever they are told to say, their knowledge is from marketing douches, not reality. BUT, being sold something, and being told that an update was very imminent, is still BS... as I was returning a Moment I had for a month, I knew it was probly BS, but after using a leak, it really is meant to have at least 2.2. Heres a link to a release date announcement, saying 2.2 is 'in development', before the phone was even out...

http://www.brighthand.com/default.a...+Sprint+Release+Date+Price+WiMAX+Super+AMOLED

So the marketing douches were even telling internet 'media' sites it was imminent.
[Epic 4G General] bomix:
Sprint Engineer who I deal with showed me a secret Power point printout saying "Feb 2011 2.2 Epic update" Then he took his paper away, and said.. no you can't have the paper.. no blogging.. doh!! he then said.. Of course it will be out no later then Feb 28th at 11:59pm. lol i know it's dumb.. but i'm holding out..
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
...and it turns out to be an update for the Nascar app. Hahaha! No, I hope its true and all... just cynical...
[Epic 4G General] readermo:
Speaking of our Lord: I find His words about His return can easily be applied to the FroYo release: "of that day and hour knoweth no man..."

I'm expecting the FroYo release like I'm expecting His return: I believe it will happen, but I don't believe anybody who tells me when :P
[Epic 4G General] the_scotsman:
I've just deleted more posts with flaming or swearing. This is the final warning. Keep it civilised.
[Epic 4G General] infamousjax:
Samsung sucks.. switch to HTC.

Problem solved.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
They're not that bad. I will save judgement until after gingerbread is released for our phone. Think about it this way. It will have been under six months since the release of the phone and in that time they will have fully ported two versions of android for our phone, 2.2 and 2.2.1. So about three months each. If they can deliver gingerbread by March, which will be three months after it's source was released, then i have no problem with them.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
I switched to Samsung from HTC because of the HTC's crappy cameras, delaminatiing screens, and really late updates on WinMo. So far everything is better with my Sammy except the updates. What's the common denominator here? Sprint. If Froyo is out for most other Galaxy S phones around the world it seems reasonable that Sprint is taking their time on this release. As others have said, it better be pretty bug-free if they are holding it up this long.
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
Typo. It would be EB for February. FYI the latest visible rdf file is EB09 which would have been yesterday.
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
Good catch, thanks! I fixed it. And yeah, yesterday had an update. So far none for today though.
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
Um... take a look at it again... 3rd time's a charm! LOL
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
You're getting something to pull up using EB10.rdf at the end? I still get nothing.
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
EB09 is still the latest. My comment was about that he went to fix his typo and just replaced it with a different typo.
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
this is reaaallllyyy starting to get promising...i'm almost to the point where I'm going to let my coworker and fellow epic user who's phone i helped flash to baked snack know that he should back his stuff up and go back to stock to make things simple...but i say "almost to the point" because the last time i told him to do that was for the Dec 26th BS, which ended up being nothing more than a hassle for both him and me lol.
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
Hmm....what am I missing then? I only changed DB to EB and that's it, and EB's correct, so...I don't get it? Enlighten me lol
[Epic 4G General] tmuka:
I agree, this sort of progress is much more meaningful to me as a developer to know that at least there has been continued work on getting a viable update for our devices going. I just hope it's not for something like incorporating sprintID or something lame like that. Let's hope it comes out nice and polished and comes with kernel source code!
[Epic 4G General] schnowdapowda:
my software will be updated eventually. your dull screen and grainy camera never will be. muahaha
[Epic 4G General] coolqf:
Is Sprint statistically relevant or just a coincidence? If you had AT&T, would you still be in the same situation? The Galaxy S for AT&T still doesn't have Froyo, and from what I've read the HTC experience on Sprint has been similar on AT&T. So maybe it isn't Sprint that much? Maybe industry wide?
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Maybe USA wide, not industry wide. About half the world's Galaxy S phones have Froyo, the base Froyo for Galaxy was available in October. I'm hoping Sprint just doesn't want to roll out Froyo and then have to roll out a bugfix a month later, so they are testing the hell out of it.
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
Looks good now.By the time we get Froyo though it's going to be EIEIO29! lol
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
lol!!!! what that like 2015.
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
Ha! sprint id. This seems to be a reoccuring theme. Us carriers seem helbent on spending as little money as possible servicing these phones. And on the back of that same coin they take more time and money from us to install crap that we don't want, and don't use. That drains our batteries and makes us angry. Hulk smash!
[Epic 4G General] tokyomonster:
My frustations with the Android update situtation (specifically the Epic 4G)

I'm formerly the editor-in-chief of Android Police, and in my farewell letter to the team, I expressed my concerns about the sorry state of the Android update ecosystem, and they decided to publish it as part of a series on things Android needs to improve on.

I know a lot of you here share my frustrations, and I was spurred to depart the blog and write the letter due to my disappointment in Samsung's handling of the update. You can read my farewell letter to the team here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-1-of-4-why-google-needs-to-reign-in-updates/
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Merged threads
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Steve Jobs said the same thing last year in his criticism of Android. Fragmentation.
[Epic 4G General] ss4rob:
I really believe Froyo is coming this month. I do. And if Gingerbread officially makes it to the Epic, no matter how many months it takes, I'll be 100% satisfied with Samsung, and will buy other phones from them. However, no official Gingerbread, even though the Nexus S is a Galaxy S phone like my Epic? No more Samsung phones for me ever again, no matter how hot dual core 1.2GHz processors and Super AMOLED Plus screens are.

Conclusion: the Froyo leak has been good, looking forward to official Froyo, Gingerbread is on Nexus S so I'm hopeful Sammy will get it to the Epic in 2011 so I can buy future Samsung phones, otherwise I'm done & going to HTC/Kyocera/Motorola/etc. :)
[Epic 4G General] meinken:
Isn't this pretty much the same argument that took place with PC's. DOS/Windows PC's are open architecture and Macs closed. At some point, Microsoft addressed DLL hell and reigned in a little of the OS fragmentation and both Macs and PCs have survived.

Forgot the quote I was referring to:

Steve Jobs said the same thing last year in his criticism of Android. Fragmentation.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
That is exactly what Google is going for. Capture 90% of the market, and then start addressing some of the fragmentation issues. Once you have all of the power, OEM's cannot afford to not obey some of your suggestions.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Google just needs to force those below them in the food chain (manufacturers, carriers) to get to where phones are on 2.2 for mid range, 2.3 for high end, and 3. for Tabs... then make bloat removable without root, you can do it on an HP or Compaq PC, PITA as it may be, it isn't 'jailbreaking' or warranty voiding last I heard. They can preload all the crap they want, but it needs to be legitimately removable. I think that this will happen... just companies trying to get away with whatever they can while they can... but especially with all the Tabs and other devices running android, the bloat must be removable. As far as average joe users, this wont change their experience, they will just ignore that nascar app like they did on their Berry, but getting the revisions down to no more than three versions, then doing 2.2.2,2.2.3, etc. for future updates, and keeping the moniker, as another thread said 2.4 would be called ginger too... Good! K.I.S.S.... BUT dont make it a lame, androgynous, one size fits none approach like Chairman Jobs... iPhones need to change their manuals to Little Red Books. As far as all the other platforms, they're all niche for business users, whether it palm or winmo.... if they can please their suit and tie customers, great... but they wont be the daily driver for the rest of us.

So now people are getting so frustrated they are bashing Android in general???? I take it you did not come from using a PC at home, or even better analogy a Linux machine... this android stuff is simple compared to those messes... and people deal with it every day.
[Epic 4G General] josidhe:
Oh neat, this thread became about fragmentation? What a fun topic. It either gets lots of nodding in agreement, or lots of anger and people saying "You get what you pay for" in a market surrounded by competitors that do a better job of keeping their phones up-to-date, lulz.

My only curiosity about the whole fragmentation issue is, I swear I remember like a year ago Google talking about moving Android toward being more modular so they could more easily push updates out on their own. Sure feels like THAT train of thought was abandoned.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Didn't a lot of the leaks state that it's the real deal a few months back? I don't believe any leaks until it actually comes out.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
One man's fragmentation is another man's choice.

I hear the Apple is planning to release a smaller down market iPhone soon. Sounds like fragmentation to me.
[Epic 4G General] the_scotsman:
Yet again I've had to cleanup this thread of some unnecessary posts. Please keep the discussion civilised and on topic.
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
welli guess the question really is, why is samsung so bad at getting out timely updates then? its not like this is their first android phone.... i'm all for getting "bug free" updates, but why do theirs take so long? i mean a 1/2 a year is nuts by any standard. its not like froyo came out AFTER the phone did..
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
From what I hear the reason this update was taking so long is because of a bug in their system when making the update. After 2.2, this should be fixed and an update to 2.3 should appear much quicker than most would expect.
[Epic 4G General] Darkk69:
Any idea what kind of "bug" they are talking about? If the bug is affected over OTA then can we update it via PC?
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
I don't have an exact idea, but I believe has to do something in their hardware and TouchWiz. Like I said, once the 2.2 OTA is official, 2.3 should not take as long. That's all I really know.
[Epic 4G General] ErlyD:
Could it also be an issue with finding away to keep touchwiz while loding sprint ID. They did say it was going to come to the epic on release. I have played with sprint ID and it looks as if it does not allow the change of launcher. You get phone applistmenubutton and sprint ID. How would you add that to touchwiz?

I say skip sprint ID make it a later update. No hurry for it. Already use launcher pro.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
I'm pretty sure it's confirmed that the Epic will never get Sprint ID, or at least not any time soon.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Again, this sounds like it comes back to sprint... up until now, for the most part, the custom launcher, and overall stock theme crap came from manufacturers, and the carriers just added bloat apps, widgets, etc... like they have always done (berry, etc)... so now Sprint wants to top it off with ANOTHER custom UI??? As far as I know, ID is not confirmed... just sayin...

So supposedly SAMSUNG had an issue with hardware/touchwiz, or sprint??? Im really confused, anyone know if they hand these things back and forth??? I thought, barring huge fukup, manufacturer handed their finished product to carrier, carrier dumped crap on top, then pushed it out. Was this bad enough to warrant sending it back to Samsung and having them fix things sprint couldnt work with??

I think just as important as official/source, we should be trying to find out exactly who dropped the ball... Sprint has been making tweaker stupid decisions like that dual-screen phone, changing Premier, etc... im seeing more dumb moves by them than by samsung... in general. Anyways, we need a leak that can tell us who exactly screwed up here, and how... I would love to find out that Samsung was behind schedule, then Sprint clusterfukked the process even more. As long as there are devs out there than can correct the collective screwups of paid devs for either/both companies, I am not going to switch to inferior hardware... just hope the right software people find new occupations.
[Epic 4G General] ProDriver77:
I agree it's taking A LOT longer than it should, my guess being either Samsung and/or Sprint's Development Team is moving too slow. Also consider with Sprnt's Marketing Department trying to push so many new devices to the forefront (e.g. Galaxy Tab, Echo, etc.), they're possibly overloaded with tasks and are having difficulty "multi-tasking".

Another thing to consider: True, this is not Samsung's first Android phone; but with a WiMax radio and different hardware, it's become a totally different beast. To quote my "gearhead" analogy again: A Honda Accord is not a Honda Civic.

However, if Samsung and/or Sprint has learned anything from this, they'll give us an update worth the wait!
[Epic 4G General] ErlyD:
I had seen this a while back when sprint id came out.

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/10/28/sprint-id-will-hit-samsung-epic-4g-and-galaxy-tab/
[Epic 4G General] JMMusic:
The author of that is at best confused...

"Sprint announced yesterday during its developers conference keynote, where we were in attendance, that Sprint ID will make its way to the Samsung Epic 4G and the Galaxy Tab."

And later in the same article:

"There’s no word on whether current Epic 4G users will see them, but future devices and the Galaxy Tab should come with the service ready to go."

So, there's no word, but it was announced... yeah.
[Epic 4G General] Kitteh298:
Hey guys I need some help/direction here. I got my phone from best buy and bricked it a few days later. Then I ued odin and flashed goddamn dg27. I was not aware that was NOT the current build. I am on dk28 or froyo right now but I do not like how slow and crappy it is just for those little extra features so I would like some kind of odin or update zip that I can use to get it back to normal or to a state that I can update to di18 or w.e. it is. E.g stock that I can get ota updates also.

From My Samsung Epic Using TapaTalk.
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
The stickied wiki on this forum has directions.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
DI18 i believe is the last official update that we got from sprint

here's a link to it

http://www.multiupload.com/X9AB1U56JV

just use it in odin
[Epic 4G General] chinoto:
@Kitteh298 (Misleading Brother): Why don't you ever state what exactly you want, I could have gotten you back to DI18 all along. I thought you wanted to get back to DG27 with all your settings, in which case your backup in Clockworkmod would have worked.

@Everyone else: I'm sorry he wasted your time that could have been used to help someone that actually needs help.
[Epic 4G General] Kitteh298:
You always have to do this.

From My Samsung Epic Using TapaTalk.
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Thread closed.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] annndrewww:
Anyone else experiencing this after updating to 1.5.1? Can someone upload the 1.5.0 APK?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psmooth:
I'm not getting all the notifications either and the ones I do receive are old.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
I did notice I haven't been getting push notifications but hadn't thought about why. I'll check my titanium backup in a bit to see if I have an old version I can upload. I'm out and using my Cr-48 which doesn't support external storage (yay beta testing! lol) so I can't do it now.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thachosenone:
I'm running test 34dead horse with kb1 modem on rooted samsung vibrant, and currently using BLN control, but don't like the fact that the light stays continuously on when you have a notification. And blinky seems very unstable (for me at least). Another alternative would be nice.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thachosenone:
Anyone?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] musclehead84:
What?????

Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] running_the_dream:
Sorry, I don't have any idea what you are talking about. Did you mean to post this question in the Epic section?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thachosenone:
No, for some reason, a mod moved this from android apps. I'm talking about back light notification. With the proper kernel, the capacitive touch buttons on the vibrant/epic/captivate/fascinate act as an led indicator.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] running_the_dream:
There's a mod here (Theimapler) that seems to rove these threads pretty regularly. Maybe Impaler can move this to the Vibrant section for you?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thachosenone:
Well, it doesn't have to be specific to the vibrant, it works for any sgs with the proper kernel
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DiGi760:
The problem is most of us are running the DK28 kernel which we can do very little modification to. So I doubt anyone on the cutting edge here has the proper kernel.
[Nook Color General] Snyperx:
I messed up my NC last night so I went back to the stock 1.1 ROM via CWR. I then rooted it using autonooter 3.0.0. Everything is working fine again except market. I can not download anything. It says "starting download" and thats it. How do you resolve this? I am sure this has been asked before so feel free to point me to the needed thread. Thanks!!
[Nook Color General] brendan6q66:
See the steps 7-15 on the autonooter 3.0 thread. I rooted mine tonight for the first time via autonooter 3.0 and had the same issue until I signed into youtube and gmail. Just follow the steps and you should be good to go.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=942424
[Nook Color General] Mikkoman:
Go into your browser and make sure you are logged into google mail. If you are logged in, log out, then log in again. I ahd to do this a couple of times today before it worked out it should download.