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[XPERIA X10 Android Development] akila87:
WOW great :)

I'm trying to add Xperia theme to Phone.apk and Contacts.apk so we can have SE like CM 2.2 ROM (the ultimate rom which SE should have made :D)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Wolfbreak:
720p not but Video Recording works on highest Resolution in the native Camera App!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] -- X10B --:
FINALLY A ROM THAT HAS EVERYTHING thank you so much wolfbreak , ill test this right away..
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] kozxmartt:
Awesome!! Downloading now ASAP!!! :)

I think I've got a man-crush on you now wolfbreak :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] javagreen:
That's great - atleast QVGA will work I think :D

Good progress, kudos to you, J and everyone else involved! :D
[Droid Eris General] johnny quest:
Ok, I have a great plan (this might have been discussed already) but here's my suggestion:

All Rom developers should charge for their work. I'm thinking maybe 3-5 dollars. and if its still in Work in Progress we can still be charged but don't charge for upgrades. This way the out of work developers can get something for their hard work. I just create images and that takes time. I can't even imagine how much time is spent on the roms.

Believe me I would pay for all you guys roms. Donations are great but not enough to inspire to create more roms or even spend time on them. I don't know if this is possible but you guys deserve a lot more credit.

thats my feelings on this issue.
[Droid Eris General] playpolo4life:
I agree with you in principle, but it kind of defeats the purpose of open source and XDA, doesn't it?
[Droid Eris General] eklipze:
That's a flattering sentiment but does rather contradict the core principles behind open source in general. If not for its openness and freely available source I doubt you would see the level of progress there has been in the android community.

I'm sure the devs themselves will chime in. Just my two friendly cents :)
[Droid Eris General] tazzpatriot:
its not Necessary but its a nice gesture:D i dont want anyone feeling obligated ,, times are hard for everyone ,, but thank you:)
[Droid Eris General] ILikeBubbles:
i don't know if you've noticed but most devs have a 'buy me a beer' link where you can donate if you wish. i know if i had a job i'd be donating $20 at a time or so depending on how much i was getting paid. until then its nice to know that even though i can't pay, i can still get the best. Google > Apple. it's not always about the money.
[Droid Eris General] Cheatman1:
In most cases everything always comes down to money. Unless your living with your parents still or your younger then it's one thing but still at the end of the day most things come down to money.

I'll agree with you on Google > Apple

I own a Iphone4 and the Droid Eris and I still like the Eris hands down no matter what even though the Iphone4 runs everything very smooth the concept of android is far better than most apple users can ever be able to dream about.
[Droid Eris General] rougegoat:
dear god that signature quote made my brain hurt just trying to read it.
[Droid Eris General] cmajpwc:
Haha your signature is great. It made me laugh pretty hard.

And as for this discussion, I don't think they can MANDATE you pay for anything. Like it has been said, its open source and if people want to donate they will. I wish I had a job so I can donate, and as soon as I get one I know I will be. But for now I'm enjoying the work these guys are doing, and hope it continues.

I mean, we're getting Gingerbread on the Eris thanks to the devs here. That's two versions more than what the Eris was thought to get. That to me is incredible.
[Droid Eris General] johnny quest:
Oh yeah, I forgot about the open source. the donate link is nice to have and I am guilty of not using that to show appreciation. I will use it more frequently. The Eris is great but I'm stuck not able to load certain apps because it requires a higher than 2.1 version. I'm up for an update and looking into the Thunderbolt most likely. Hopefully there will be a thread on this phone for Roms in the future.
[Droid Eris General] TheGeek007:
I agree, there should be a way for ROM makers to get paid for their time. Likely, its illegal or a breach of some sort of contract/agreement/gobbledygook somewhere.

The developer for my favorite Eris ROM's, Tazz is having back issues and can't work, so this very issue is very relevant. I make sure and send him donations whenever possible.

For now, just send your favorite ROM devs donations through the links provided.
[Droid Eris General] Conap:
It's nice idea that you guys want to give back but honestly if deving was a paid gig I don't think you would have as good as results. I do it myself cause I tinker by nature and like to help other people. You will get a better end product if you have a dev that does this cause he likes it and not just cause he want to make money. Look at the number of useless apps on the market cause people just want to make money. Nothing wrong with making money and I myself sell apps but roms are a different ballgame. Plus rom dev's rarely write code of their own except for the cyanogenmod team. We all use the source available to us or other peoples work. Plus if you got paid for your rom you wouldn't want competition so who would share their work. If work was not shared in this community then android would not be what it is....
[Droid Eris General] zifnab06:
GPL violation anyone?

You'd have to include the source code with said paid work, and post said paid work's source code publicly, not disallowing anyone from modifying it or redistributing it. Wouldn't last long.
[Droid Eris General] jadesdan:
Plus, if the devs charged, then the CM team would charge them, and the google would charge then......... it would end up being way more than 3-5 bucks.
[Droid Eris General] settlethestorm:
+1

We'd have to throw some cash at the Hero devs too lol, and pretty much everyone that helped them,and on and on ;)
[Droid Eris General] meanm50:
Good intentions! I am glad some people still think of the devs.

I have donated in the past, and will continue to do so. We are running GB on an Eris now! Without the devs, we would all be on Cupcake and hating it.

I'd like to take a second to thank the devs and the COMMUNITY as well. I have received lots of help here from regular joe's like me that are just looking for the latest and greatest, as well as the devs that make the magic happen.

We should all thank our lucky stars that we have been provided a place to share ideas, get help and help Android and other platforms evolve into new, fascinating and useful apps/OS's.

Thanks to the WHOLE community! I would pay each and every one of you if I could!
[Droid Eris General] chris22_2:
If you like something like this enough, why not do it for free? Especially in this kind of work.
[Droid Eris General] bftb0:
There is not a single thing in open source licenses which prohibits people from charging for services rendered; it is a complete misrepresentation - and frankly a disservice to the Open Source community - to state that open source means "no money involved".

Open Source licenses only prohibit distribution of derivative works without also providing source code. As an example, it would be completely legal for someone to set up a paid web site where there is a charge to download the Linux source trees. In this (ridiculous) example, what is being paid for is the service - the license is satisfied because you are providing the source code.

Having said all that, note that "all of android" is not open source; in particular, the Google Apps, (HTC Sense, Motoblur, etc) and certain hardware-specific libraries are proprietary goods - even so-called "Pure AOSP" dev ROMs contain a small number of vendor libraries, which are technically illegal to redistribute.

I suspect that the legitimate owners of those goods turn a blind eye to small amounts of infringement because they can not monetize their legal actions (no blood from a turnip, etc); but also note that when infringement achieves a certain scale (as it did with CM and Google), they will certainly step in - the issue there has little to do with money; it's more about a legal principle of loss of rights due to failure to defend those rights in the face of significant infringement.

Charging people when you are infringing is a pretty sure way to get the attention of the infringed party.

bftb0
[Droid Eris General] ufmace:
I use KaosFroyo on my Eris; I appreciate all of the work that has gone into it, and I have kicked some $$ back to Kaos for his efforts. That said, officially charging for ROMs sounds like a big mess for a bunch of reasons.

First off, how do you actually enforce it? Are we gonna set up some kind of ecommerce website? Do billing and customer service? It'll generate a bunch of tedious work that has nothing to do with actual ROM development, and paying someone else to do it would probably soak up all of the money. And are you going to sue and go after people who pirate it? But if you don't enforce it, then you pretty much have what you have now.

There's also the different expectations for a paid product. Right now, if some newbie can't figure something out and keeps posting stupid questions without reading the FAQ, then people can tell him to STFU/read the FAQ/release the Kraken/etc because it's a free product being developed by guys in their spare time that doesn't earn them much money. Start charging for it and you change that whole equation around - you now have to hold the newbies' hands or they'll scream for a refund and cause all sorts of trouble if they don't get it. Not to mention the liability - we know every now and then phones get bricked and data gets lost doing this stuff. If it's a paid product, then there may be legal liability for that in some markets. Who's gonna sort that out? Expensive lawyers?

Plus the other objections brought up regarding copyright/licensing of the proprietary libraries that are being used to make these ROMs.

Put it all together, and the current system seems like it's the best solution, even though the devs may not be getting as much money as they really deserve. So throw a few more bucks in the bucket for your favorite ROM.
[Droid Eris General] roirraW "edor" ehT:
IMHO, though there are many excellent views and points regarding all this posted in this thread, and the original intention was interesting, these two answers are the overall most complete and pertinent.

Way to go, guys!
[Droid Eris General] roirraW "edor" ehT:
This was a pretty damn good answer, too, if you don't mind me saying.
[Droid Eris General] Conap:
With the new GB roms out CELB Froyo is on clearance at a 20% discount to anyone who interested :D:D

No returns allowed. Available stock not guarunteed. No rainchecks. All sales final. CELB is a non-registered trademark of a company that does not exist. As always super big thanks to the Cyanogenmod Team
[Droid Eris General] tazzpatriot:
Tazz froyo & floyo. Buy one half off. Get the other for a dollar :p
[Droid Eris General] roirraW "edor" ehT:
LOL, you guys!
[Droid Eris General] 1234567188:
While I like the idea of giving the worthy devs money, and I do, I also think that almost all devs have a donught button that I can use to give them all the delicious treats that I can afford( most of the time 0) Ill finish this post later.
[Droid Eris General] ijerk:
Dx2 devs found a way to charge

Sent from my CM7 Tazz
[Droid Eris General] ILikeBubbles:
Yeah I'm on the same boat... "most of the time 0" its unfortunate the way the economy is but with Dow Jones climbing every day hopefully some (or most) of us can get employed and really make this thread obsolete ... (in a good way!!)
[Droid Eris General] Hungry Man:
a) None of the developers own android and you can't sell it as your own. GNU.

b) That defeats the purpose of an open source OS... it's completely the opposite of everything linux stands for.
[Droid Eris General] bftb0:
Not to beat a dead horse, but again: Open Source licenses have absolutely nothing - (read my lips - NOTHING) to do with money. It is perfectly legal and acceptable to build businesses and charge for services, distribution, packaging, et cetera - that revolve completely around open source code. In fact, it's actually desirable - all boats float on an incoming tide.

Ever hear of Red Hat? It's an 8 Billion Dollar (market cap) company whose products and services are built on top of open source.

Sorry for the rant. It just gets old to hear people claim that "you need to work for free because it's open source". First off, it's not true; and second, maintaining that position is bad for open source - the more people that work on it, both paid and unpaid, the better it gets.

bftb0
[Droid Eris General] 1234567188:
Open source is free as in freedom, meaning you can do with what you want not free as buy 154 get one free
[Droid Eris General] stanlalee:
I made a donation that was far from huge BUT was significantly more than said developer would have gotten from a one time fee of $3-5 even if I bought all their Eris roms. I'd put my bet on the one out of ten appreciative members benefiting from a developers work donating $30-50 a pop over expecting everyone to pay a mandatory $3-5. Problem is people would be reluctant to try anyone/anything new because cost is now in the equation and you'd be waiting alot longer to get paid because nobody wants to paying for a rom with broken camera, wifi and mms while one works out the kinks. throw pay into the equation people want a finished product for their money.

I do understand your reasoning though. I for the life of me too cant understand WHY all these developers spend so much time working so hard to give away their product especially for dated devices with fancy titles and daily support as if they owe it to us (like we paid for it). Makes no sense to me but neither do free (ad free) apps or free (adware free) pc software.
[Droid Eris General] bmxfelon420:
You mean you dont use Gingerbread? Or at least Froyo?
[Droid Eris General] johnny quest:
I'm using a custom rom xtrROM 5.0 my firmware is at 2.1

I try using Gingerbread roms but its too slow and forcecloses and uninstalled apps at the same time. I like them but they use also 3d galleries and its too slow, but the new cm7 its better but too slow far as smoothness.
[Droid Eris General] mrkite38:
Because they

enjoy

it. :)

Since this thread managed to float up, I'm moving it to General.
[Droid Eris General] spc_hicks09:
GB ROMS too slow? What kind of GB roms have you tried? Since the release of Tazzs and Sheds stable CM7 builds, there's been such a big improvement on speed as well as functionality! Not trying to call you a liar or anything at all, just don't understand how it could be slow for you.
[Droid Eris General] Eris1981:
If have have more then 30mb of available memory my Eris ran VERY smooth on all the Nonsensikal Froyo ROMs. I loaded up Tazz Gingerbread yesterday, and it is even faster, and I never thought it could be any faster. I have had less force closes then I ever did with a stock/2.1 ROM.

I cannot imagine it going the other way.
[Vibrant General] johnny13oi:
Hey guys am running nero ka5 I think and really like it. I was wondering is there a way to flash voodoo color? I think the rom doesn't have it included.

I also have a captivate and for some reason the screen and colors just look so much nicer on there which I am assuming is due to voodoo color.
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
It requires kernel support, right now only found on Eugene's Dead Horse and Ttabbal's Dragon 4, but they're kinda buggy at the moment.

If you want something similar, try downloading an app called Galaxy S Tuner. It's quite ingenious and will let you tweak color, sound, and a bunch of other things (which I have not touched).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DD7374:
Hi there,

I've recently downloaded both Vito's SMS-Chat and Birdsoft's Extreme Text programs as possible alternative text-messaging clients. I have a Tilt 2 phone running on Windows Mobile 6.5 - with the most recent upgrade provided on the HTC Web site. (My phone runs on HTC Sense, for example.) I'm having a problem with both of these text-messaging programs. Both programs install successfully on my phone, and both programs show sent and received messages that have been initiated by using the default SMS client; however, when using either SMS-Chat or Extreme Text, I am UNABLE TO SEND a text message. In the threaded-messaging windows, they will list the messages that I have written - but the messages don't actually get sent. Are these two programs incompatible with the Tilt 2 phone running on the upgraded WM 6.5 / HTC Sense? Is there anything that I could do to get these programs to work? I find the default HTC Sense messaging client to be slow and cumbersome. Thanks for whatever advice that anyone could provide. I noticed that someone else had posted a question similar to this one - regarding SMS-Chat only - but a solution didn't appear to be listed in that thread. Also, since my question is with regard to both of these text-messaging programs, I decided to begin a new thread. Thanks again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cajunflavoredbob:
Why aren't you asking this question on Vito's or Birdsoft's website? This would be a support question for them to answer. Most of us use Arksoft messenger or some other included one from our ROMs. If the program isn't compatible with your device, then they should offer you a refund.

EDIT: After looking at both websites, it appears that SMS Chat is compatible with WM versions 5, 6.0, and 6.1. Extreme Text is listed as compatible with 6.0, 6.1, and 6.5.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DD7374:
Arcsoft and the Tilt 2 running WM 6.5 with HTC Sense

Thanks a lot for the advice. I contacted both Vito's and Birdsoft's customer-service departments; I'm just waiting for a response from each. Thanks, too, for taking the time to research the WM versions with which these two programs are compatible.

I tried to install Arcsoft, the program to which you referred. My phone indicated that the program installed successfully; but I cannot see the icon, nor can I find it anywhere in any of the directories. I installed a "security policy lifter" cab, too, which I found mentioned somewhere in this forum. Evidently, that little cab is to be installed before Arcsoft is. Anyway, do you have any ideas why this isn't working for me? If you do and if you have a moment, please pass them along. Thanks again for the response.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cajunflavoredbob:
If you use a stock ROM, meaning a ROM image that the device came with or an upgrade from your carrier or HTC, then you will need the security policy lifter installed beforehand. This will lift the restrictions on your device for modifying the system files that Arksoft messenger changes. If you are running a custom ROM, then you should not need that cab at all as this change will already be cooked in.

Make sure that you install the WVGA version of the cab file. This is the resolution that the Rhodium (Touch Pro2) uses, which is 480x800.

Arksoft Messenger is meant to replace the default HTC messenger. There should not be any icons or Start Menu links for you to open. The application is meant to stand in the place of HTC Messenger wherever that application would have opened.

The only other thing I can think of is to remove both of those programs and then install sdkcerts. I've attached that file for your reference. Once that installs, soft reset your device and then install Arksoft. If that doesn't work, (keep in mind that it replaces HTC Messenger) then maybe try out a custom ROM or something that has it cooked in already.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DD7374:
Arcsoft and the Tilt 2 WM 6.5 with HTC Sense / Vito SMS-Chat / Extreme Text

Thanks for your thorough response and for the time that you took in compiling this information. I've already done everything that you suggested, though, and I've even contacted Vito's and Extreme Text's support teams... but to no avail. Neither has replied. With regard to Arcsoft Messenger, I tried just as you suggested; but that didn't work. I think, at this point, I should just let it go. Looking for a "cooked" or custom ROM might be a bit beyond my scope of knowledge. I imagine that I'd have to do a hard reset as well - not something that I enjoy! If you could think of anything else, by all means let me know! Otherwise, thanks again for lending your expertise and patience. I appreciate it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cajunflavoredbob:
The first flash can be a bit daunting, but it gets easier with time. Hard resets and flashes can be prepared for by the numerous backup applications available. Microsoft Myphone will backup all of your personal information for you. Any programs you have installed from the marketplace can be re-downloaded. Any applications you've installed in any other fashion can be backed up and then reinstalled. Once you get the knack for flashing, it is a simple task to learn how to automate the flashing process so that everything installs and restores itself automatically. Most all current ROMs for the Rhodium will use a different messenger program than the HTC one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DD7374:
Sorry for the delay in my response... Thanks very much for your insights and expertise. I will give your suggestions a try!
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Esteway.619:
I was wondering if anyone can make a galaxy s i9000 bootanimation that's cm3 compatible. I tried searching but can't find anything. Thanks in advance.

Edit: I posted this in the wrong section ment to put it under themes. Sorry move it if u can
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ringold24:
Have you found an amend version? If so look in the development threads for the converter tool. I just tried it the other day for a couple things and it works great!
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DiGi760:
Can you just pull the boot animation out of an i9000 rom and then copy it to the proper place on your phone? Then you wouldn't need a flashable zip that was made with edify.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Esteway.619:
Actually a guy in the viper section got it working for me but thanks for the info
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fastscorpion2010:
Hello there,

I bought the HTC HD2 and it came with a ROM Version of 3.14 and the Radio was also compatible. I installed MAGLDR and several Android Builts and it worked.

However, the screen frooze in ALL builts and in Windows 6.5. Thus, I thought i have a Hardware problem and need to send it in for Warranty.

Therefore, I looked up the "native" ROM for my build, which is supposed to be this one, which I downloaded directly from HTC.com: RUU_Leo_TMO_DE_1.72.111.4_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship

I installed this Version by pressing the Volume button down and the power button to boot into the bootloader. Then I connected the Phone the Computer and followed the Instruction on the Screen.

The first time it installed itself to 100% but after the reboot it got stuck in the T-mobile branded Logo (pink circle).

I tried to reflash the ROM several times, but it always ended at 10%. I also tried flashing the 3.14 version (RUU_Leo_S_HTC_GER_3.14.407.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship),but this one also aborted at 10%.

Lastly, I tried to reflash MAGLDR 1.13, which officially finished at 100% but after the boot, I'm again stuck in the T-mobile logo and it does not enter the magdlr bootloader.

does anyone has any idea?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MattOG:
Rename the official rom to leoimg.nbh stick it on the root of the sd card. Boot into bootloader again and it will flash for you. P.s. DO NOT use the .51 radio if you're on t-mobile US. I doubt you are, but I have to mention it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fastscorpion2010:
Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it and it seems to be working. Windows is starting again! you are a live saver. now i can send it in for warranty.