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[Nook Color General] nootered:
I tend to disagree with this. Hardware is hardware, but unless there is software and a medium for the user to take advantage of the hardware it is as good as a piece of poop in your hands.

Perhaps, with better software, the GTab is a great option, but the screen is still lacking, big time.

For $249 you can NOT do better than the Nook Color. And with the 1.1gHz OC, it flies! As far as a gaming it runs everything I throw at it currently. That being said I still game more on my iPhone and iPad. Not because of the hardware but because of the software selection.

When we start seeing games like "Infinity Blade" on Android ... then I will sell my Apple products, until then I keep both.
[Nook Color General] cshehan:
The screen and portability won me over

I currently own an ipad and nook and did own a gtab. The screen on the gtab was what killed it for me. It was blazing fast, but get a tiny bit off center and the colors go straight to hell, a little further off center and it becomes unusable. The ipad and nook have amazing screens. I prefer the nook though for its hackability and size. Both the ipad and gtab are a bit heavy and awkward to hold for any length of time. For the money, you really can't do better than the nook right now.
[Nook Color General] flammenwurfer:
OP: Just curious what you ended up doing, as I'm in a similar situation.

I want an android tablet but I'm tired of waiting for the "really good" tablets to come out. I would like to get something in the mean time until my ideal tablet is released sometime in the future.

I feel like the G tab could last me longer because it has Tegra 2 and a 10 in. screen, but the screen isn't great and is missing gps. The NC has a great screen but older slower processor and the screen is smaller. I plan on using a tablet in a variety of ways. Probably about an equal amount of reading, browsing, gaming and video watching. Another reason the NC is tempting is because it's cheaper and I'm not sure spending more on the G Tablet is necessary if I'm just going to upgrade again in the near future.

Anybody have insight on which one has better battery life?
[Nook Color General] fpga_guy:
I own both. If I were constrained to use only one, it would be the Gtablet. Here are the reasons:

1. Froyo is not stable on the NC. Some ROMs are okay but it's not completely stable.

2. The wifi is buggy. If you haven't encountered problems yet it's because you haven't been to a site with incompatible wifi routers. When I travel, I can't afford to have a device that won't allow me to connect. Do a search and you will see all the wifi problems. Here's one recently: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=986133

3. NC is stock eclair while Gtablet is stock froyo. Makes a big difference when it comes from the manufacturer. I know there are smart XDA guys/gals hacking at making froyo work on the NC. I doubt BN will have an update to Froyo - there's no business reason for them to do it.

4. Gtablet has a microphone and camera plus bluetooth.

5. If honeycomb (and I mean if) comes to NC and Gtab, the Gtab will have it in performance.
[Nook Color General] flammenwurfer:
Good points. What is the most popular rom on the Nook Color?
[Nook Color General] altimax98:
I think froyo may be the most popular mainly because its safe. I for one love honeycomb. Even with all its little quirks and stuff but the pros far outweigh the cons to me

Sent from one of those missing Droids
[Nook Color General] Kayak83:
I was in the same boat deciding between the two. I ended up with the nook color because of price and its ereading capabilities. Reading on this is really great. I wasn't sure how much i'd read but i can't put the thing down lately. B&n did a great job with their nook store and reader app. And did i mention the screen??? Seriosly. Its a knockout.

I just wish flash was easier to obtain. Im running stock rooted at 1Ghz. Eveything runs great but i don't want to switch to froyo just for flash d lose the stock look and reading app.
[Nook Color General] flammenwurfer:
I stopped and played with both today and it didn't really help, haha. I see the pros and cons in each but can't decide which one would be better for me.

The Nook has better build quality, higher quality screen and better reading capabilities.

The G Tablet has a bigger screen, more hardware features, faster processor.

The Nook's screen is smaller, and performance is slower.

The G Tablet's screen isn't as nice and build quality is not as good.
[Nook Color General] Nburnes:
Probably nookie froyo. I personally love CM7 on my nook. Nightly 14 with the overclocked kernel is fantastic.
[Nook Color General] skeeterpro:
Like some others I, too, have both a NC and GTab. Both have pluses and cons. (Wow, that's a news flash!)

Seriously, my useage depends much on the task at hand. As a long-time windows/DOS guy I felt the urge to play and learn android. The GTab with the hardware muscle provides me with a fascinating platform to knock around in. (FWIW am running the Vegan 5.1 right now). Sure the screen angles coulds (should) be better but locating my glasses has been a bigger pain than the viewing angles! I prefer large format reading on the GTab (screen size) but when it comes to reading the NC blows everyting out there away.

Have two NC's (one BN stock and one Monster root) Tend to prefer the smaller form factor of the NC and overall build quality. Don't game much at all (still clueless on Angry Birds) but find the stock (non-OC) cpu to be fast enough for all I've done (so far!)

Tough call really. If I were stranded on a desert island or DFW (with available wi-fi) it'd probably be the NC I'd choose. (With a butt-load of 32GB mSD of books!)
[Nook Color General] bakarus:
Honestly I had the same dilemma. I wanted sometimg that would sort of replace my crappy netbook but I didn't want to spend a fortune either. I would say that the pros and cons have been beaten to death. Ultimately it is your preference. I decided to go for the nook mainly because of price, at 210 after tax, I couldn't resist. I also chose this because of form factor. I am always commuting and needed something more mobile and I couldn't imagine lugging a gtablet around all day. Try holding the gtablet with one hand and reading. The nook is honestly a great all around device. I love reading, surfing the web, and play moderate games on it. Battery life is stellar on this device compared to my pathetic netbook. I would say get the gtablet if you are a gamer and don't mind the larger size which is a pro for some people. I actually wouldn't mind the bad viewing angles because I hate people who try to see what I'm doing just because they nosy. Hope this helps your decision.
[Nook Color General] Dadeeo:
I bought a Nook and returned it in 3 days to buy a GTab, primarily I thought the screen was too small on the Nook and the lack of real buttons made navigating screens and menus too irksome for me. I kept the GTab for only 12 days deciding it was too much money for a tablet that wasn't ready for prime time. The screen angle problem was very apparent from the start and trying to find the correct button in dim light or dark rooms was annoying to me. Buttons should be back-lit imho. In the end I decided $400.00 was too much when there are going to be better choices within a few months so why be sorry I spent $400.00 on a tablet I'll want replace so soon.

I still wanted something to play with while waiting for the next crop of tablets and I happened to stumble on the $199.00 Nook eBay special so I grabbed one. I'm very happy with the Nook for $200 and I'll not regret buying when I finally pull the trigger on a better tablet in the next month or two. The Nook can do anything the GTab can do and for almost half the money.

BTW, if you buy the Nook, grab the Button Savior app for it if you go with Froyo. I'm running CM7 right now and there are Back and Menu buttons in the status bar so Button Savior isn't necessary. Nookie Froyo is actually a better rom right now but I like the CyanogenMod UI better and sooner or later CM will get YouTube running.

Regardless of what tablet I will eventually end up with, it will be WiFi only, tethering to a phone is just too easy.

My rambling 2 cents...
[Nook Color General] DanielNTX:
I owned a GTab in December for almost 2 weeks. It's way too thick in my opinion and the screen is horrible, the viewing angles absolutely sucked. One thing that bothered me was Location Services based on wifi never worked in any build that I tried. Although, it was very fast overall, it felt like holding a brick that had one of those old passive-matrix lcd's. I ended up taking it back to Office Depot and forcing them to take it back (because they have a silly return policy).

I jumped on the $199 deal on eBay and the form factor and build of the Nook is all around better. The screen so much better and OC'ed to 1100, the performance is great.
[Nook Color General] nytwok:
i think it really depends what you'll use it for. i had both, then returned gtab, didn't like Gtab's screen, design, and weight.as i majorly use it to read books, surf internet, emailing, etc. nc perfectly addressed all my needs.
[Nook Color General] eppyramot:
I had an iPad until December when i got a G-Tab. I sold the G-Tab last week and got the Nook. I kept switching between Vegan and the CM7 port on the g-tab, but cm-7 was too buggy and Vegan wasn't as good an android experience in my opinion. Also the screen on the g-tab drove me crazy. (BTW other than the screen i felt the iPad was way overhyped and keeping it jailbroken was a PITA).

The nook with CM7-15 nightly is a dream, other than videos which moboplayer and rockplayer can handle almost perfectly to compensate. Performance-wise i can't tell the difference (other than benchmarks) between this and the g-tab. I love the size/weight. In my opinion the screen is better than the iPad. And so far i have used it more over the last seven days than i would either the iPad or the g-Tab. I honestly am shocked by the value of the nook.
[Nook Color General] bnolsen:
Add to that the gtablet is uncomfortable to hold one handed and is terrible for games that use "analog controls". Also the gtablet can only be used if you put it on something (table, yourself, etc). The nook is far more portable.

I currently have a gtablet in hopes of doing dev work (best value tegra2 out there) and a nook color for general tablet use.

My personal opinion is that 7" seems to be the sweet spot for general tablet use.

Wait and see what new stuff comes out next.
[Nook Color General] flammenwurfer:
Lots of good thoughts on the comparison everybody. Thanks for sharing.

It's apparent that most all of us kind of like both but aren't 100% on either. I'm starting to lean towards the Nook or just waiting. I'm not really wanting to spend $400 on a tablet that I'm not going to be completely happy with.

What is this $200 NC ebay special people keep mentioning? I'm assuming it's long gone by now yes?
[Nook Color General] bakarus:
Sorry 200 deal ended last week. But honestly at 250 it's still a bargain. I even thought about buying the crappy sub par 100ish tablets but couldn't stand the flaws. If you don't mind waiting longer I would, most gadgets will never increase in price and really lower over time. Again its what you do with it that should determine your decision.
[Nook Color General] flammenwurfer:
I figured.

I agree that it's a pretty good deal even at $250, but $200 would have been an immediate purchase for me. My expected use is going to be web browsing, ebook reading, game playing in my living room. I have a netbook I leave on my coffee table for random browsing and playing but a lot of times I end up just leaving it sit there because I get tired of waiting for it to boot up and shut down. Also, having to sit in a certain position so I can see and type is sometimes annoying. I just think I would use a tablet more because of it's instant on nature and versatility of being able to hold it different ways. Not to mention battery life.

Quick question. I have an HTC Hero phone and I have to stick to mostly basic games because the phone can't handle anything very intensive. How does the NC handle the more intensive 3D graphics type games? At the very least I want the tablet I get to be able to handle all the cool games I'm missing on my phone.
[Nook Color General] flammenwurfer:
Also, what are some other tablets that are coming out soon that you guys are waiting for? Any release dates on anything?
[Nook Color General] pdanders:
The screen is the most important part of a tablet... so I'd definitely go with the Nook Color which is BY FAR (IMO) the best value for the money for ANY tablet right now (esp if you can get one for $199 like I did).

After using my friend's iPad and a nook color I've become somewhat convinced that 10" tablets are simply too big and heavy.... while the smaller nook is much easier to hold for long periods of time.

An Ipad or xoom really isn't that much more portable than my netbook (which is FAR more powerful and gets over 10 hours of battery).

I feel that most tablets are WAY overpriced right now... the nook color is a big exception to that providing INSANE value at $199 (and even at $250 it's still a very good deal). The 7 inch 1024x600 IPS is simply awesome (better than iPAD IMO)
[Nook Color General] pdanders:
Could not agree more... I see people with iPads at the airport struggling to use them all the time... most iPad users seem to have settled on cases that let them use the ipad on their laps angled up.... which seems insane to me... why not just use a cheaper and far more powerful netbook at that point.

The nook color on the other hand is comfortable to hold for long periods of time
[Nook Color General] bartaspoz:
B&N Nook Color vs ViewSonic G Tablet

Hey everyone,

i read all posts in this topic.

First of all i have to sorry for my english :)

Many of you is blaming on two major disadvantages of Gtab:

- the horrible viewing angles of the screen

- almost doubled price compare to NC

Bu now the prices have changed:

The Nook Color is still 249$, but the GTab if about 300$!

And what do you think now? Wich will better - taking into consideration the new prices?

Thanks.

Bartek

Poland
[Nook Color General] dsf3g:
I bought my Nook Color as a "hold-me-over" device until cheap Honeycomb tablets become plentiful enough to give the iPad real competition. Since rooting the NC it has exceeded all my expectations. I am now perfectly happy to wait 6 to 12 months for the hardware and software side of Honeycomb to flesh out some more.

At $250.00 the Nook Color makes a lot of sense. But I couldn't see myself paying much more for a device that won't get an official Honeycomb port.
[Nook Color General] lechiffre:
$300 for a gtab is still too much given its terrible screen. Some people can live with it, if you read any docs in portrait I don't see how you can. The feature you'll end up using the most on your tablet is the screen, better to get the best screen possible imo.
[Nook Color General] grinch247:
I have both and utilize each one different...I wont let go of either one!
[Nook Color General] laithis:
Thanks guys for this thread - just helped me choose the NC - esp since they *did* roll out 2.2 just last week, I think.

And when you can go to ebay and get a NC for $225 (sure it's certified refurb but has a limited 1 yr warranty AND free shipping), the deal was sealed.

Off to browse threads to see about any gingerbread ROMS (LOVE CM7 on my Hero-c ... gave me insane battery life! hoping for same on NC.)
[Nook Color General] ebubar:
I'll recommend the following for trying out CM7 and Honeycomb on SD card: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1045018

I'm mildly techie and this is working well for me. Both images include the market so no need for ADB to setup market on honeycomb (big plus since my mac won't recognize my Nook through ABD USB).
[Nook Color General] 9thSage:
You won't regret it. CM7 on the Nook Color is a beautiful thing. Especially if you install Dalingrin's overclockable kernel.
[Nook Color General] flammenwurfer:
I have a Hero and a Nook Color also. Happy with both, though I'm jonesing for a newer phone pretty bad :). The NC has been great, especially with all the amazing work the devs are doing on CM7 and kernels and such. Battery life still isn't up to stock standards but it's certainly acceptable. With moderate use I can get a couple days out of it and with heavy use I can still get a full day out of it.
[Nook Color General] ExploreMN:
Holy geezus! Amazon is now selling the Viewsonic for $296...that's looking pretty tempting at only $46 more than a Nook Color!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
[Nook Color General] dsf3g:
This is exactly why I got the Nook Color. And honestly it has exceeded my expectations in that regard (and all I've done to it is a simpe Autonooter 3.0 root and installed a few apps from the Android market and from the Amazon app store).

Once CM7 has all the kinks worked out and B&N releases an android reader that can handle magazines I'll probably go that route with this device and again be amazed at what it can do.
[Nook Color General] dsf3g:
It's $309.00 now.

But still, ultimately you're deciding between a heavy, thick, 10.1" machine that feels like it was slapped together and has a rather mediocre screen but is quite fast and a light, 7" device that's reasonably speedy and eminently hackable.

My feeling is that these are all 1st generation machines. You're buying them to play around with until the first wave of truly great, thin, light and fast Android tablets hit the market at a reasonable price point.

A more serious quandary is choosing between a $250.00 Nook Color and a $350.00 WiFI only Samsung Galaxy Tab. But when I was shopping, that was not a debate, as the GTab was still selling for $500 on contract.
[Nook Color General] Telemachus:
Nope, it's 299 now!

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/134043/ViewSonic-G-Tablet-101-Android-22/

I'm only a week into my CM7 NC, and loving the screen. But that price is tempting!
[Nook Color General] Odenknight:
Within the price range of a NC, nothing comes close.

IT and heavy tech guy here.

I am currently running CM7 (7.0.3 and Dalingrin's (04-24-2011 ext4 fix OC kernel to 1.3GHz) and have been running stable since the release of 7.0.3. It would be safe to say that anything within $100 cannot come close to what I get out of my NC right now, and I see no reason to spend any extra dollars to lose functionality only to gain 2 camera's or 3G/4G capabilities.

I can remote into my home PC via TeamViewer

I can watch Netflix

I can schedule tasks (via calendar or PM apps) for my workers

My daughters and I play games and educational apps on it

Live wallpapers are my vice

I play my music on it

I can make and receive phone calls on it (as soon as the BlueTooth bugs are 100% worked out, I will be able to talk back to the people I call ;) )

WIFI is stable across multiple routers, phones (via tethering), security protocols (WEP, WPA, WPA2)

Are their minor bugs? Of course. All of this is still in development, and for free, mind you (tip your programmers, please.). But, for my experiences, the bugs/incompatibilities are minor at worse, and anything that was a showstopper has been user error or a bug that was remedied within 15 minutes +/- time to e-mail a dev.

I am quite happy to say that the open source community has done far, far better than commercial production has. My business will continue to support Open Source projects to any extent that it can.

I am also quite saddened that the commercial entities, with all its capital, cannot outshine the Open Source community for whatever reason(s). Many lessons to be learned here.

Good day to you all.
[Nook Color General] ChrisDDD:
You should check out the GTab's screen in person. I was seriously considering one over the Nook until I saw it in person, the screen is absolutely horrible. I'd gladly take the slightly lighter specs of the Nook to get a screen that I would actually enjoy looking at.
[Nook Color General] fr4nk1yn:
coworker bought a g-tablet after seeing me bang away on my cm7 nook for awhile. I rooted and installed cm7 on his g-tablet.

I'd take one nook overtake of those things. the nook does everything it does, that I need, it a better size, even he's starting the g is large, it doesn't bench great, but the absolute deal breaker is the screen.

it must be looked at from directly ahead. I'm an old Guy and been in this stuff for awhile and the g-tablet's screen has the worst viewing angle I can recall ever!
[Nook Color General] delosh:
I would go further and say the much nicer screen on the Nook, plus the lighter, slimmer, more portable size, more than make up for the minor bugs. I would buy the Nook over the Viewsonic even if they were at the same price, myself.
[Nook Color General] Gin1212:
Honestly with things like the Asus Transformer and the Acer Iconia Tabs coming out at similar price points, I think it would be hard to justify the GTablet at this point.

I understand this thread is a bit old and outdated now, but I say this for anyone who isn't well informed of the new tablets coming out. This would have been a tempting buy a month or two back, especially with the xoom locked up with 3g at the time.

But now it just wouldn't be worth it. And if you have a Nook Color, it's really hard to justify downgrading the screen that much.

It's like I tell my friend's, no point in buying a bigger tv if it means crappier quality overall. I would much rather a tv that was 2-4" smaller if it meant it was a better product overall.
[Nook Color General] I Am Marino:
The Gtab is severely outmatched now, for us, the NC has this price range down packed, especially when you get a refurbished for $180-$225.

Any more than the retail $250, you might as well dish out for the Iconia or Transformer, if not possibly a Galaxy Tab.
[Nook Color General] dsf3g:
Indeed, much better to spend $400 on a tablet you'll happily keep for a couple of years than drop $300 on a device you'll be looking to upgrade in a couple of months.
[Nook Color General] Lttlwing16:
Just got home from spending around 30 minutes with both the NC and Gtab at their respective retailers..Here is where I am at with the situation..

Wasn't a fan of the NC's "apple-esque" single "home button" ...spent a lot of time searching around for the back function, which many times was on the screen somewhere..I know there are apps and Roms that address this and maybe it just takes some time to get used to, but I still like the physical buttons.

Also wasn't a fan of the NC's sound output..Maybe it was just the display model, but the sound was terrible. With the volume to max I couldn't hear anything unless I put my ear up to the speaker. Not excited about having to use secondary method of getting sound out (headphones, ext speakers) . Hoping someone will tell me this isn't the case ..

The screen on the NC was noticeable better, but I had some problems getting it to respond to some thumb presses..once again maybe just the display model..someone please tell me that that isn't a legit problem..

I didn't notice that big of a problem with viewing angles with the gtab, BUT that may because Office Depot had the thing bolted to a piece of plexiglass so you couldn't pick it up...unfortunately I didn't test it out the viewing angles to rigorously but didn't notice any major problems..

The feel of the NC outweighed the feel of the Gtab..once again, I couldn't pick up the thing cause it was bolted down.. I agree with those that say the 7" is a better fit.

I also had problems getting Youtube videos to play on the stock NC software.. It would begin to play then say "Unable to play this video. Sorry. " Or something to that effect. It was the same with every video I tried to watch.

The Gtab I couldn't get a single webpage to load.. I hope it was just do to the wifi in Office Depot, but when I went to the laptop section and made sure wifi was working on something else it worked fine.. hmm...

The gtab felt a little more laggy, and the screen responsiveness was slower.

I am torn....leaning towards the NC.. hoping the sound issues aren't par for the device..