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[EVO 4G General] r916:
Yeah but it still competes a device released in mid-09.

I don't need any of that, I have a 16gb sd card, I can play any game in the market without lag, I can mulitask (mostly for work, gps, phone, internet browser, etc) and it does everything I need it to. Don't get me wrong a newer android device on sprint (pref. made by HTC) would be really cool, but my guess is not until early summer or late spring, until then..the evo is fine.

Phones are getting out of control now, dual core and ****? Really come on, I can see that in a tablet or somehting but not a phone, at least I don't need that ****. And the people who think they do, do you honestly think they are going to need a dual core phone?

I'd much rather play ANY game on my laptop's 17inch screen then a 4.3 inch one.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
This is kinda surreal.

Talk about a letdown.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Oh yea? Download the nexus revamped live wallpaper and use it and see what happens.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
I think the major thing here, and why so many people are kinda outraged is because Sprint made a huge deal about this phone. If they would have just announced it in a normal fashion, and advertised it for what it is.. it would have been fine.

People had their hopes up and I can see why they were kinda let down. I'm not really letdown because I thought it would be a 4g tablet.. I'm glad it isn't that.

I'm not financially ready to spend 500+$ on another phone right now, so I'm fine.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
What happens? Is it a little laggy or something?

If you're selling point on all the new high end android devices is "it can run live wallpaper without a hitch" then I'm even more happier with my EVO.

Is it falling behind and becoming dated? Heck yea, if I jumped ship for the HTC Thunderbolt... 6 months later I would be behind again even tho the Thunderbolt was a perfectly fine phone. That's how it is.

Sprint will get something for all you guys that have to have it... if it's worth paying more for and getting nickel and dimed with surprises on your bill every month just to have it NOW, then maybe Verizon is for you.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
This was part of it for me, I mean the hype doesn't really translate ... and sure some of the hype is made up by the end user or customer ... but still. And while I'm not ready to give my Evo up for something else, I was still looking forward to what Sprint had up their sleeve and if it was worthy I woulda been all over it.

I blame David Blaine
[EVO 4G General] r916:
I have revamped pro :)

FPS set to 32 and particles amount is set to 150.

CPU % is at 9%.

I use that live wallpaper every day of the week, never change it, so I do not see the reason for your post. :) unless your stock, then sucks 4 u. :)

edit- and not to mention i use the live wallpaper while i use maps(nav), setcpu, camera, messages, sprint tv, kcra 3 (local news), mx moto(game) and gmail. Those are the apps in my recent apps list (holding down home button) and no lag here bud.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
CPU usage at 9%? Right. Big F'n, right.
[EVO 4G General] mbaseball3:
Lololol true story gotta share here. So my fiancee has had the moment (against my advice). After it took a crap I gave her my hero. It's taking a crap. Recently I said ok baby ill get you new said to be 'awesome' phone from sprint. Just sent her link to phone. Just got the reply.....'ew Lol wtf is that'. Lololol true story.

Sent from the Evo 4G
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Yet at the end of the day the Evo still does the same things those phones do......

Sent from my HTC EVO
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
In other words the **** doesnt work without modding the phone which was my point. With the new phones, YOU DONT HAVE TO.
[EVO 4G General] HappyFillmore:
That was a waste of time. Like a bad blind date. Looks like the EVO will be in my hands for awhile longer. Absolutely do not want that new kycera phone. I was at least hoping for a dual-core phone.
[EVO 4G General] r916:
:)

Just for you

I'm using temp+cpu pro widget

I have 4 widgets on right page( two from beautiful widgets, the cpu+temp pro and setcpu).
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I got the same wallpaper. Used Sense, MIUI, CM with multiple kernels. The lowest CPU usage on any LW that I've seen (and I've tested a ton) is starfield @ ~18% CPU usage (non-OC'd). There are some lower ones but they don't really do anything (e.g. switching static wallpapers). I call BS.

Edit: Either the monitor is out of wack or it's not real time and is showing cpu usage coming out of wake. Lets see CPU usage from the homescreen and not the lockscreen.
[EVO 4G General] looneylu:
lmao!!!! made me laugh after the disappointment :p
[EVO 4G General] r916:
You don't have to, but most people will, so your saying you would get a thunderbolt and not root it?

Please.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
BTW, I'm pretty sure that your CPU usage is the one coming out of wake. Lets see CPU usage on the home screen after a while. I guarantee that:

A) It's a lot higher than 9%.

B) It lags the hell out of your drawer and any animations that overlay over the home screen.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Not knocking you or any of the new phones... but I have to say it again.

If the major selling point of the new android phones = "running live wallpapers much better", then I fail to see how it is better. I don't even use them, sure they are cool... but cool enough for me to drop 500+ on? Heck no

I'm not saying the EVO is in the same class as these new phones, they obviously aren't. But right now, it is more than enough for me and most everyday users.

They're going to have to come with something a lot harder than more ram, live wallpapers and more storage for me to pay full price. If they don't, I'm fine waiting til I'm due an upgrade because I KNOW something will be out by then.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Theres no need to be a retard, you know exactly what im saying.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Doesnt have to be wallpapers.. for me its LTE > Wimax so there's really not much more argument I need than that.
[EVO 4G General] r916:
No I'm using the phone every 2-6 mins (texts, engadget,etc

I just opened shootme app to take that screen shot.

A) Again it changes but it doesnt stay at anything for too long at all.

B) my phone literally never lags, I could care less what you say or think for that matter, plus my battery lasts a good amount, 7 hours 3 mins with 15% left, maps 55%, AS 13%, cell stand by 11%, phone idle 9%, voice calls 7%, display 5%, do you want a screen shot of that too? oh and thats on 4g.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
No it isn't. It doesn't bother me if you go to Verizon.. that's your choice.

When I was with them I was nickel and dimed to death, it was just a mess. Now, even to use their NFL app, you have to pay 10$ extra a month for Vcast. They do stupid stuff like that too much for me.

Verizon just isn't for me, I don't have Wimax in my area and certainly won't have LTE, the EVO is still a sharp functioning high end device, so I'm happy.
[EVO 4G General] r916:
True I'd rather have LTE over wimax any day.

I do know what your saying, and I'm not being 'retarded' I stated a fact, even stock my phone could handle LW, not as good as it is now, but it still worked fine.
[EVO 4G General] mclife:
I think if HTC had released this device (of course it would be way less fugly) instead of Kyocera, there would be way more excitement. Its just a major letdown for me because its Kyocera. I just can't take them seriously. The whole idea of buying it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. What kind of support can I expect, is anyone actually going to develop for it, will it be stuck on Froyo forever...

Anyways, I think the concept has legs. Just needs someone like HTC to make it pretty, and Google to add a Honeycomb coating...
[EVO 4G General] r916:
EXACTLY.

I think Kyocera will have better support then Samsung, but only time will tell.

(And thats because I hate Samsung after everything they have NOT done)
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
Good god!@#... So this POS is for real then??? You have got to be kidding.. This is the big announcement. A gameboy telephone!?@#

The stupid youtube video isn't even scaled to occupy the whole screen. Maybe loosing the premier annual upgrade was not such a bad thing if this is the junk that's considered flagship.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Denial is a hell of a thing. I have the Nexus Revamped Pro LW running right now @ 24 FPS & 110 particles and it's not 9%. CPU usage with it? 65%. Without? 2.7%. Like I said, I call BS on your claims. It's almost laughable.

Anyway, this crap phone is almost a lock to be Sprints new Spring/Summer flagship device. I'll probably be rocking a Verizon iPhone 5 and a secondary Q2 Droid by then. Good luck with Echo Sprint 'cause you're going to need it.
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
wait wait wait....

thats it? they hired david blain for that? they made this huge announcement for that?

Should of hired a clown instead.

Unless david blain makes the 2 screened crap disappear and then makes a evo 2 appear then.....
[EVO 4G General] jobryan26:
Android Central's hands-on video with the Echo.

http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-kyocera-echo
[EVO 4G General] m4rk0358:
LOL. Some of you guys are taking this way too seriously. Aren't there a couple of major mobile events coming up? Lets see what Sprint announces at those events before committing mass suicide.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Sprint releases like 1 new high phone every 4 months. I wouldn't be hoping for much.
[EVO 4G General] m4rk0358:
Do people really trade in their phone every 4 months? The EVO is about 6 months old. I'm sure there will be something available after it's 1 year anniversary for trade in.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
My point is that with the imminent launch of WP7 phones (and soon WebOS), you likely wont see another high end Android phone until the fall.
[EVO 4G General] m4rk0358:
And people like you were telling me that the EVO would get Froyo in 9-12 months.
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
http://gizmodo.com/#!5754281/kyoceras-double+headed-echo-is-nothing-more-than-mutant

There is a quick look at it. I died laughing...literally crying at how the writer bashed that phone. GREAT LAUGH.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Thing is, Sprint has set a precedence for this. They could surprise us, but considering how oblivious they are when it comes to handsets, don't hope for anything good.
[EVO 4G General] 4redstars:
If non-nerds (unlike us) can get over the fact that it isn't an iPhone this thing could sell really well. We are the only people who give a poop about Android 2.xxxx and processors on the inside.

We are in the minority on these things and if it could sell to most people out there it is a success...if we hate it, it really doesn't matter.

Now for my own needs I think it is cool but a gimmick. Also I think with the customized apps I see very long delays of any manufacturer / Sprint updates coming for this phone. I doubt we see anything past gingerbread if even that.
[EVO 4G General] TLJester:
You forget a lot of people will no longer qualify for the 1 year upgrade after April 1st.

So this was a big deal event.

I for one was waiting for this to see what upgrade (if any) i should take before losing the ability on 4/1. now i think i will just let my 2 years run out and take a stance then. Hoping (as i have just been and let down by) that Sprint have a competative lineup then. So far they are swamped by the competition, with their multi 1ghz lineups, NFS chips, and dual core sweetness dripping with a honeycomb delight!!

And we have with sprint the Evo (old), Epic (stagnent), Shift (not quite) and DS clone (FAIL).

Want a Galaxy 2 or HTC 3D - or LG X (whatever)
[EVO 4G General] sling:
Ive come to the conclusion that Sprint wants to fail.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
link to wall please
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Lol and you saying this has about as much credibility as if it were coming from Steve jobs himself

....means absolutely nothing unless you know Dan Hesse which you don't.

Sent from my HTC EVO
[EVO 4G General] gabe2gg:
LMAO sprint is getting murdered on their facebook page not to mention the echo youtube video
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Don't bother he's full of it. I get over 60% CPU usage on CM6. Even if I overclocked to 1.2 GHz, I wouldn't expect much less than 50%.
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
Personally, I wouldn't even waste time putting Gingerbread on that...
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
I do, and this just looks like a novelty, plus the lag and the FC's were the nail in the coffin. Im sure people will buy take it home and realize its impractical and buggy, bring it back in a few days and trade it for a EVO shift. I wonder how the battery life is? Like I said in an earlier post: kyocera...no thanks.
[EVO 4G General] Jfree3000:
Wow that guy is telling it like it is, damn hilarious as well.
[EVO 4G General] r916:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.stealthcopter.nexusrevampedpro

mess with the settings to get it to your likings
[EVO 4G General] jobryan26:
WOW... I almost feel sorry for Sprint after reading that. lol
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
As stated above, that hinge won't last for too long. I suppose in concept there is utility in having a smaller/larger screen capability, but in practicality, it becomes a pain. I remember when i had a phone with a physical keyboard, I found it too much of a hassle to slide it out most times.
[EVO 4G General] r916:
A hassle? lol

It takes less then a second to slide it up and almost no energy needed to do so.

It wasen't a hassle for me when I had my Transform, I just barely used the keyboard.
[EVO 4G General] halorin:
You know, from looking at the 9 second video and the promo video, the concept of the phone definitely has potential. It sounded like it locked into place pretty sturdily, which I was surprised with.

But, no 4G on a network that spent millions advertising their 4G network? No dual core? Screens that small? That bulky? Maybe 2-5 years from now, something like this would work, and NOT from a manufacturer like Kyocera. I just don't trust their build quality.

The hype and mystique around this phone (David Blaine? WTFuh?) was just ridiculous. This phone would have a lot more respect if it was quietly announced and allowed to die the slow death it's going to with a few niche devotees.

Swing and a BIG miss, Sprint.
[EVO 4G General] willy900wonka:
So. With the need of a usage paradigm for new multi core processor phones leads to multi screens.

I want a triple Evo with the sexy hinges. One battery per screen. That's three x 4.3 inches. A folding tablet.

Would honey comb allow multi screens? Why not each one is a cell in a honey comb.

Sdk : command . Fractal display . Float

LMAO

I'm feeling the shock waves in the force.

Two bits is not a pair of dimes though this is a paradigm shift.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
With the convergence of data, more screen realestate is needed, but practicality of a 3.5" screen isn't overly useful. Now, dual 4.3" or greater (5"?) would be appreciated, especially if it's from a reputable manufacturer.
[EVO 4G General] KINGOFNOOBS:
The funniest thing is how many of the Android fans here collectively diss Apple and the iPhone but brand whore themselves to HTC. Need I remind everyone about HTC's beginnings?

The garbage, Touch Pro, HTC Mogul, HTC 6700, HTC Snap, etc. Companies take time to get good people. Anyway, I'll check out this phone. It runs a more efficient Snapdragon, has twice as much ram (obviously) and I don't have to pay for 4g. Sounds like a decent deal to me.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
Correction, since it's a smart phone, it is subject to the $10 premium data fee.. Don't think you'll be able to escape that one.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Depending in when you get it you gotta deal with the extra $10. Sans 4G which we've all come to terms dealing with it even though it isn't a 4G fare. And no one claims HTC to have been saints from the beginning. But HTC has climbed the ranks for a reason and lately they seem to be doing SOMETHING right. Dont rationalize. This was pretty lame. And it looks ****ing stupid. FACT. Mass letdown. Kingofnoobs? KingOfTools.
[EVO 4G General] KINGOFNOOBS:
Correction: I have a Sprint SERO plan, meaning I do save $10 (Since I'm currently paying a 4G fee for my HTC Evo). Though I do understand that everyone now has to pay the $10 so I'll give you that. I'm still waiting for the HTC Arrive this week.
[EVO 4G General] Cole28:
According to Sprints press release it runs a QSD8650 which is the same processor as the evo. So unless it's a typo then it's no better.
[EVO 4G General] KINGOFNOOBS:
It's a typo. The livestream of the actual Sprint conference says that it's running the second generation Snapdragon, found also in the EVO shift.
[EVO 4G General] networx2002:
Sad day...
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
After watching it in action it actually looks really cool!
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
lol blitz quit trollin'
[EVO 4G General] k2buckley:
That thing looked super slow and laggy in the youtube vid. It was unresponsive to the guy's touches.
[EVO 4G General] radiohead_freak:
Yea I was seriously disappointed. I was hoping for a dual-core 3D HTC or LG (hoping for HTC) WiMax phone with dual-cameras. This THING doesn't even have WiMax. This is just like the Shift 4G not having a front facing camera. Sprint keeps going back instead of forward. Yea they're the FIRST to go backwards with technology.

-__-
[EVO 4G General] Laspal:
Top 5 android phone of 2018....

[youtube]kmybymw5Y5Y[/youtube]

Check out the video
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
This. All I am interested in is the next big HTC phone that Sprint has to offer. I really hope this kyocera isn't their only announcement today.
[EVO 4G General] elegantai:
sounds good to me :D I hope someone punches dan or david blaine in the face
[EVO 4G General] cor4twenty:
read online that they would be announcing the htc arrive as well but i'm not sure how true that is

edit:

I highly doubt that either of those phones are the big industry changer though...I'm still hoping for some sort of upgrade to the network.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
That's the WP7 one though, right?

Man ... hoping the leak was just the bull**** announcement and they have something else (Android related) that is their big announcement ... along with their network hype ... which I still have hope for.

This can't be it ... a ****ing Kyocera phone and CDMA WP7?
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
wtf is wrong with wp7? have you even tested it? have you seen how fast it is? or how smooth the ui is? have you seen how well it handles 3d with the SAME exact gpu as the evo? were as the evo lags like hell?

People talk **** without even using the device. wtf
[EVO 4G General] cor4twenty:
yeah it's wp7 from what I read. Like you, I really hope this kyocera thing was just something to lower expectations for event then they'll bring out the big guns as the MAIN announcement.
[EVO 4G General] elegantai:
This is gonna be worse than a Ron Popeil infomercial...

But wait thats not all! we have this **** ass phone....

But wait thats not all! we also have this phone with an os I dont care about :D ...
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Yeah, I actually have.

I wasn't even trashing WP7 there ... was more in regards to a Kyocera Android device and a CDMA WP7 announcement ...

Talk about picking something up and running with it. Chill bro, chill.
[EVO 4G General] cor4twenty:
I used the HD7 for a couple hours and I can see how it's a good phone but I just think everyone's hoping for something more than that..I really don't see a phone/tablet or wp7 as industry changing. We'll just have to wait and see
[EVO 4G General] mekeke:
Oh joy, Sprint is going to announce a phone that is the retarded offspring of a Nintendo DS and a Smartphone.
[EVO 4G General] elegantai:
not to derail the thread but maybe he is not interested in wp7? I am not, i have never used wp7 but I don't care about it at all.
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
yea, but that doesn't mean you can trash the OS because you dont like it.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Nothing about WP7 is appealing. From the ugly, non customizable UI to the lack of multitasking.
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
Yeah, when I said the next big HTC phone, I meant the next big HTC Android phone. I could care less about wp7. I'm sure it has its merits but it just isn't for me.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
I wasn't trashing the OS. Christ. You get pretty defensive when someone even breaths on another OS the wrong way.
[EVO 4G General] elegantai:
I think you just took it the wrong way. The way he phrased it seemed more like it would just be disappointing with all the hype sprint made this announcement to be.
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
This is pretty awesome. With dual screens we may be able to take advantage of the tablet only version of honeycomb on our smart phones. I do wish it was an HTC phone though... I guess we will find out for sure later tonight.
[EVO 4G General] potna:
i just googled this little fellow and it looks like a toy, kiinda like a starwars space ship. in other words, its not what i had invisioned. looks flimsy and dumb.

check out the pics in the link

http://androidcommunity.com/sprint-...id-phone-tipped-for-imminent-reveal-20110207/

scratch all the above, thoses pics dont arent of the phone we are talking about.
[EVO 4G General] elegantai:
dear god... i ... i ... just dont know what to say to that......

that is just downright horrible

..oops I didnt read that that is not actually the phone but a fujitsu prototype... so lets hope it looks better than that if this is the announcement
[EVO 4G General] mekeke:
......Wow Sprint. I am very disappointed that you would let something like that even touch your network.
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
what the **** is that?!?!

edit: that's a fujitsu but if the kyocera looks anything like that....
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
bahaha that looks ridiculous
[EVO 4G General] mlin:
That does look pretty bad... Leave it to Kyocera to make a **** phone out of a good idea. This could've been executed with much more thought and class.
[EVO 4G General] freshlysqueezed:
The picture in the article is a fujitsu prototype. not the kyocera. So it may look better.
[EVO 4G General] billyapd21:
It may but more than likley it won't. I was really hoping for a HTC Tablet or an upgrade to the network or even a Gingerbread update to the EVO!
[EVO 4G General] torankusu:
Hi all,

Maybe is time to switch carriers, I'm hoping they have something along the lines of Motorola xoom and atrix/bionic handsets and tablet or at least windows phone 7 without a physical keyboard. other than that i think I'll go with Verizon expensive plans but awesome phones and service.

What you guys think???
[EVO 4G General] dschoenike:
I think it looks interesting. if it came with android 3.0 and a Tegra 2 chip, it may just be worth it. all a big maybe though. lets see what happens tonight.

dschoenike
[EVO 4G General] caseydietz:
Perhaps that will be part of Blaine's magic? He'll take a dump and it will appear on one of the two screens on the phone? That's ghetto street magic if I've ever seen it...

If he disappears forever, I will consider this event a huge win for us all regardless of carrier.
[EVO 4G General] leon sprouse:
If this is all Sprint will offer , I really feel letdown. This may be a new toy for a few customers but the vast majority of Sprint users couldn't care less. I was hoping for an announcement that would benefit ALL Sprint customers. LTE + with 10 times the speed of 4g would really be something to announce. Like Shakespeare once said "Much ado about nothing"!!!!!!!
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
K, every ounce of common sense I have says this is NOT Sprints big announcement...might be a side (freak) show, but not THE announcement.

If this is what theyre throwing out to compete with the likes of the Atrix, Infuse,etc....then their ingeniuos move to bustout Wimax and the Evo last year was in fact not ingenious at all ,just one lucky fluke.
[EVO 4G General] nabbed:
Actually that's 4.95 inches bro

Learn the maths bro