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[Off-topic] fleurdelisxliv:
U cant be serious soccer is in no shape or form as pysical as american football that just blows my mind anyone would even say such a thing! :confused: That is the reason they only play 16 reg season games bc it is so demanding and they have to have all week to recover! as i said before when the nfl plays games in other countrys its the hottest ticket in town. The nfl would never have teams in other countrys besides maybe canada bc it would be to much travel and the nfl is truly the only prof football organization nothing else can compete against it. Soccer has many many pro organizations all over in many diff countrys bc its easy to get into and anyone can play if they want. you rly dont have to be a certain size or build to play soccer. Im not saying soccer is not hard to learn but football is harder take a look at what all goes into making a team run or work and be good at it.

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[Off-topic] adamski123:
When u say NFL is played I'n other countries u mean really the UK and a few others, Asia and south america and Europe won't give a **** if it came over. Yes but if NFL is so popular why haven't leagues been set up in other countries just like soccer has done, and that includes the us, where MLS is slowly growing I'm popularity. Errm, u seem to be forgetting FIFA, the world governing football body? :L the NFL is only america...

Haha, soccer is incredibly hard to understand and learn, come bk then u can run like messi, knuckle the ball like ronaldo, pass like xavi and be a magician on the ball like Neymar.

Soccer is so diverse, and the tactics differ all over the world.

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And don't even get started on viewings, cos in that sense soccer trounces american football in almost every aspect. 3 billion people tuned in to watch the world cup in 2010, 300 million watched the champions league final this year. Most people would rather watch 90 mins of entertainment, skill and drama then 10 secs of movement before a ad break and cheerleaders :L
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
Actually there are 62 American Football federations world wide. It is also currently being reviewed by the IOC to become an olympic sport.

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[Off-topic] adamski123:
Lol nobody wants it as a Olympic sport... soccer shouldn't be one anyway.
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
I would love for it to be an olympic sport. It would be another easy gold metal for the US. :D

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[Off-topic] adamski123:
Lol yeh, like u don't already dominate the medals table or anything... ;)
[Off-topic] fleurdelisxliv:
Lol 3 billion just tuned in to watch the superbowl one game not added up for a month or two :p im just trollin now but for real :D

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[Off-topic] adamski123:
Mhmm ;) I think ur a bit confused if u think 3 billion people watched the superbowl ;)
[Off-topic] fleurdelisxliv:
Lmfao football players are so soft and outa shape :rolleyes: football players are in supreme shape and they dont go a buck 50 just bc soccer players look like long distance runners dont mean they are in better shape than football players. Hell t.o. is 38 and is in better shape than any soccer player on earth and he is about done in the nfl! im not gona get started again bc like you say we all have our likes and dislikes

Edit: im 34 y/o and i wld work you at any sport :eek: :p ;)

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I guess we just have different view of "in shape" :p
[Off-topic] fleurdelisxliv:
Lol agreed :)

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[Off-topic] roofrider:
Blame it all on the bad post in the first page.
[Off-topic] fleurdelisxliv:
Ill give soccer another go when the world cup comes back on! Last time i did see a few games and thought the germans were pretty good. Either way its football season baby LSU is #1 and the NEW ORLEANS SAINTS wont miss a beat!!!!! WHO DAT :p great time to be a football fan in louisiana :)

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[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
Tony Gonzalez 36 years old, pretty sure that falls into everyone's view of "in shape".
[Off-topic] madquack:
Soccer is a bunch of *******. Play rugby.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
Seriously... That and the dipsh*ts that keep replying to that old post. Its from 2011 and some people really get that butthurt to go ahead and pull a necro reply.
[Off-topic] zounduser:
Seattle seahawks my team, always will b. That said........we picked up terrel owens, amd matt flyn, plus we already have sydney rice, beastmode, and tatupa!!!!! This our year to shine!!!! GO SEAHAWKS!!!!

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[Off-topic] ohyeahar:
Not a fan of either soccer or football. But if I had to choose, I'd prefer football.

I've tried to appreciate soccer but I just can't. 2 things annoy me about the sport which I can't get over.

1. Offside violation. The sport of soccer is already a low scoring game. Why cripple the offense further with this rule?

2. Too much luck involved. Luck is involved in every sport. But it seems soccer takes this to another level. Sure, skills are definitely required.

A player juking his defender to get free to kick a well placed pass leading to his teammate who has to out-jump a swarm of defenders leading to a spectacular header which sails past the out-stretched arms of the goalie requires timing, athleticism, coordination, and chemistry. But....

I'd love for someone to correct me if I'm wrong on this, but aren't most goals similar to the following?

- A pass gets inadvertently deflected that leads to the defense being out of position leading to some lucky guy chipping the ball in.

- A goal attempt is blocked by the defense or it bounces off the goal posts and in the confusion, some lucky guy chips the ball in.

It just seems too chaotic. Running offensive sets rarely results in goals. Teams are better off just chucking the ball towards the goal and then hope for a lucky bounce so one of their guys can recover the ball to score the gimme.
[Off-topic] MissionImprobable:
Women's soccer is awesome and intense; men's is 90 minutes of pansies flopping on the ground trying to get penalties called.

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[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
For once, I'm not angry that I abused alcohol by spitting some out while laughing.

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[Off-topic] MissionImprobable:
By not allowing passes beyond the last defender it means that skill will be required to drive to the net and score. Otherwise you could just park someone down by the goal and have one v one with the goalie and have ridiculously high scores.

If you didn't find the USA v Canada women's match exiting you're just not a sports enthusiast, that's all I know =p

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[Off-topic] roofrider:
lol..of course not.

Those two instances occur only in the frantic injury time of 2-3mins before full time.

I don't know about football...but soccer has more creativity in the different attractive styles of play and the different philosophies followed by the various teams.

Football (soccer) is a beautiful game (does not apply to mls).

And regarding injuries...tackling is an integral part of American Football unlike soccer where cheap tackles lead to serious injuries.
[Off-topic] ohyeahar:
Not trying to start an argument. My questions below are actually sincere. And perhaps the answers will allow me to finally understand more about this rule.

If there's no offside violation, you're saying that the offense can just camp out by the goal which would lead to easy scoring opportunities. Instead of countering this with a rule enforced by referees, why not leave the task to the opposing team?

That is, for every player that camps out on the offensive side of the field, let the other team assign a player to defend that guy. This would essentially force man-on-man defense. As a by-product, it would lead to much better spacing on the field which would make for less chaotic plays.

Sure, the scoring would increase significantly. But how's that a bad thing? A goal is the most exciting part of the game. So more is better, right?
[Off-topic] adamski123:
They defence already do assign defenders to attackers, its called man marking.
[Off-topic] roofrider:
The pitch is huge...if they played one of one it would be crazy.

lol...players running all around till they burn out, this ain't basketball where a player can hold the ball long enough till his teammate makes a move.

Soccer is a free flowing game..and that is why referees award an advantage play at times so it does not disrupt the momentum.

Edit: adam already replied. Also only the 4 defenders man mark, not every player on the field. A striker cannot be man marking an opponent. This is where the various team specific styles come into play.

Also, the more the goal the more boring it gets.

2 brilliant goals per game will do.

It's more about how they play the 90 mins.
[Off-topic] adamski123:
And besides, the offside trap means that more tactics, skill and teamwork are involved in getting a goal in the first place. Look at how Barcelona do it. They score countless goals a game and never complain about the offside trap. It makes football flow better.

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Well said.

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Have u tried watching European football and not the mls? Goals require skill in Europe, while most goals in the MLS are like that, no offence to anyone who watches it, cos I occasionally watch it aswell . But its a worlds apart to the EPL and La Liga.
[Off-topic] Zavon:
MLS shouldn't even be consider in comparison to European and other soccer. MLS is just a sport but Futbol is a life style.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
I can pretty much guarantee anyone here inquiring about soccer isn't basing it off of MLS, so we can put that idea to bed. We realize the MLS is far inferior. I only watch international games, some champions league , and occasionally some barclays when it gets down to the grit, but my opinions remain.

Honest question, what do you euros think of the constant acting/flopping that is a key part of the game? Obviously it is done to gain control of the ball with a free kick, penalty, etc. You guys probably see it as a normal and accepted practice, but from the outside looking in, it makes it look like there is no integrity to the game of soccer.
[Off-topic] roofrider:
It's not a key part of the game, I'm not sure if ur talking about the blatant dives or the staying on ground after a legit foul.

The former is a disgrace and the player is yellow carded if that is an obvious dive/playacting...If not then fans will get him, not a prob.

The latter is nothing actually..it's sometime used to get the referee's attention (if he didn't spot it).

No one condones such practices..they are only ridiculed by the fans.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
But there is another instance I've noticed other than those two. Let's say its a questionable challenge that does indeed involve contact (not flat out diving). Many times in that situation, players not only stay on the ground, but roll around and cringe as of they were injured. You can tell that sometimes they aren't even injured because they will hop right back up like nothing happened when a scoring opportunity arises or to celebrate a teammate scoring.
[Off-topic] roofrider:
Hahahaaa...

I know, I'm just glad no one in Arsenal does that.

It is a shame. Gotta ignore it...if it's a little too much they get trolled.
[Off-topic] adamski123:
Diving is a real problem in the game, and we football/soccer fans hate it just as much as u guys do. I think anybody that purposely dives with the result changing the game should be suspended. For example Ashley's Young's dives last year in two games resulting in game changing penalties. That should be stopped.
[Off-topic] MissionImprobable:
No, the worst part is now that flopping is infecting other sports. Started happening last season in the NFL and it's even happening in Olympic Bball, with Argentina and Spain flopping like professionals.
[Off-topic] fleurdelisxliv:
you are right the nba has got some bad actors :eek:
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
Same with fencing. They act like people give a crap about fencing.

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[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
Fencing?
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
Yeah, do you see anyone giving a crap in that picture? Didn't think so.

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[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Serious question. Does anyone else thing waaaaaay more people would be interested in fencing if they used broadswords? Maybe even katana.
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
Any sword would be fine. One major change though. Plain clothes.

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[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
Or, extremely attractive females with no clothes! :victory:
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
We already have beach volleyball for that.

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[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
But they aren't fighting with swords.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Maybe even on horseback. That way they could get rid of dressage and fencing without wasting perfectly good horses.
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
I wouldn't be looking at the damn sword anyway.:D

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[Off-topic] roofrider:
Yesterday..
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
This was beautiful. Batum was sick of the flopping so be gave them a legitimate reason to go down.
[Off-topic] fleurdelisxliv:
preseason football tonight guys! i know it dont count but i love it :good: who dat? saints dat baby :)
[Off-topic] nowetdio:
Let the fun begin

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[Off-topic] Eternalty:
Hopefully the Cowboys will actually do something...

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[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
You best be glad it don't count cus "who dat" lost!
[Off-topic] fleurdelisxliv:
lol yea they did! d looked nice though :) but hey at least we didnt get slaughtered like atlanta :p its cool to lose in the preseason though i dont sweat it at all bc its just the guys playin to try to make the team. im ready for some regular season throwdown :D
[Off-topic] flyers2114:
Go look at ppcg sports thread.....looks as though he found you again.....

BTW Wide and Doc...why no mention of that cheating mfer Tressel.....NCAA is going to be dissecting that ass now.......
[Off-topic] muerteman:
Arsenal got owned in the barca game unfortunately but the spurs advance. What predictions for man u arsenal fa cup this weekend?
[Off-topic] Carla:
First game I have been able to watch in about a week since we were on vaca and it was a good one! They slid because I wasn't watching. It's a fact.
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
They even shed a tear or two for ya too CD ;)
[Off-topic] Carla:
LOL! I wasn't out of the loop as to what was happening, just didn't get to watch at all. I was ready to go and kick someone in the butt though! D-Weezy must've got my text and stepped it up.
[Off-topic] flyers2114:
You been out of my loop!! Lol!

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[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Hey Flyers! BUCKEYES!!!!
[Off-topic] flyers2114:
Yea....yea.....yea I know....its ok though we knocked you off in hockey:D
[Off-topic] muerteman:
Glory glory man united. Triple here we go.
[Off-topic] jonny68:
great result for United today, the treble is very much alive :)
[Off-topic] Timberline:
Roll Tide !!!
[Off-topic] fleurdelisxliv:
lsu tigers baby! Gotta love ole nick though ;)
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
My Caps are heating up Flyers!
[Off-topic] Carla:
BIG game in about 20! Orlando-LA should be a good one tonight as well, as long as they don't spend the entire game talking about Dwight Howard and whether or not he gets reffed differently then anyone else.
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
You're gonna miss D12 when he's gone next season?
[Off-topic] Dr.8820:
Where's he going I wonder...

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[Off-topic] Carla:
Not to Cleveland.....:p
[Off-topic] Nsandhu23:
We dont need him. We are a young team with potential and two first round (top14) picks.
[Off-topic] Carla:
Not that I thought you had ANY chance to land him if he decided to go elsewhere, but you are telling me a player who is 2nd in the league in blocks, rebounds, and field goal percentage, as well as top 10 in ppg is someone you "don't need" when you are 12 and 53? Come on. Potential or not, that isn't the player you say you don't need.
[Off-topic] Carla:
I like to pretend like he will stay but who knows. GO JJ! Ole sexy ass :p
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
That BMX track at the Olympics looks absolutely amazing.

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[Off-topic] Eternalty:
Hoping the Dodgers can take back first place

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[Off-topic] slapshot30:
Is the US any good at that or does GB own that too? I'm getting tired of seeing GB win all the stupid cycling medals. Like the 3 lap one where they purposely went super slow for the first two laps. Dumbest thing I've ever seen.
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
Yeah, that indoor track race is the most pointless one I've ever seen.

USA is usually good at bmx. I believe Australia is as well.

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[Off-topic] slapshot30:
Yea, stupid sports like that are the only reason GB is so high in the medal count. I guess it makes sense the US is good at BMX, we're usually pretty good in the X Games. Is BMX relatively new to the Olympics? I never would have thought they would add one of the extreme sports.
[Off-topic] adamski123:
Some bodies a bit jealous of GB's domination in cycling me thinks...xD not French by any chance are you? ;)
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
Nah, American. Just not interested in an event where the "strategy" is to go slow for two laps and then somewhat fast for the 3rd and final lap.

IMO with any of these sports, if they were primary sports in America, we'd own them too. Prime example is basketball. If soccer was anywhere near a primary sport we'd have multiple world cups. Its a primary sport for our women and look what they've done.
[Off-topic] AndroHero:
Typical arrogant american lol I will be somewhat pleased when china conquers you in 2020 lol
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
I refer to it as extreme patriotism lol. :p

It isn't a blind statement though. Our country has a huge population, all of which is a melting pot of many different ethnic groups. Because of that we have different kinds of people that are "built", if you will, for any/all kinds of sports.
[Off-topic] adamski123:
I highly doubt u would dominate soccer, Brazil and Spain are pretty good at that.
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
Yeah because you know our women's soccer team didn't just take the Gold and come in 2nd in the 2011 world cup. :p
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
Guys, settle this like men..

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[Off-topic] slapshot30:
True, but because they are primary sports in those countries. Soccer isn't even close to a primary sport here. Basketball, football, and baseball (sort of) are the primary sports. You look in these countries like Brazil/Spain and anyone can/will play soccer, even the lowest in society's standards. That's not how it is here. Even in our worst neighborhoods you'll find a concrete basketball court with a chain hoop, but nothing relating to soccer.

All I'm saying is that if soccer was important to us and our best athletes competed in it... we'd be as good as anyone else.

Exactly. It's a primary sport for our women and we own it.
[Off-topic] AndroHero:
Stop saying soccer. It's called football. Association Football to be precise. You can puff your chest out all you want, and throw about empty promises about world domination. But end of the day your crap at football and you always will be. (And no womens football does not count)

Your argument is invalid anyway Spain the current world cup holders, Did they not finish 2nd in the 2008 olympic basketball? Now basketball is nowhere near a primary sport in spain. So by your logic Spain could say if it was, they could quite possiblt be world champions in that too.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
My argument is quite sound. Basketball is one of the primary sports in Spain, but it is definitely behind soccer. Spain doesn't even compare to the USA in basketball, even if they got silver. We could put in 5 guys that didn't even make the Olympic team and still win gold.

If we put our best athletes into soccer, I guarantee we'd be as good as anyone else. That's already how it is with our primary sports. Any other american want to come up with a mock up soccer roster with me? Let's start at goalie with Durantula. :p
[Off-topic] poopsmith777:
You know its not good when the Cardinals barely lose haha :)

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[Off-topic] roofrider:
Baseball is the US's national sport, correct?
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
It's refered to as it but Football has a higher viewership and the NFL makes way more money than MLB.
[Off-topic] roofrider:
Ya..that is the case everywhere.

Hockey is our National sport...was very successful in the past(8 oly golds), suck at it today.

We dominate in Cricket.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
Correct, it's a very traditional sport for us. But in all honesty football and basketball are more popular. Those two sports are getting most of our good athletes. Part of the reason is that they don't hand out as many full scholarships in baseball as they do in football and basketball. Another reason is how easily accessible it is. We have courts and fields everywhere, and all you need is the ball. It isn't quite as easy to pick up and play baseball.
[Off-topic] MissionImprobable:
Again, when the men stop flopping around like sissies maybe I'll really respect them again. The women far and above exemplify what sport is in soccer/futbol than their male counterparts. It was shameful that Japan flew their World Cup-winning ladies team coach and the men in first class/business. Men's competition is an utter joke with the pagentry of who can writhe most convincingly on the ground.

The women play hard for 90 minutes, and with the exception of dirty teams like Columbia keep it intense but fair the entire time. I can tell how much the women want it every minute that they are out there. Men's soccer has gotten worse and worse every single year. There are certainly some women's sports that don't live up to the men's version, but women's soccer outclasses men's every day of the week.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Soccer. Soccer. Soccer. We call it soccer. Get over it.

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[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
Soccer

Football
[Off-topic] AndroHero:
Lets see if your so arrogant when you speaking chinese lol America used to be a fit, strong, superpower. But alas, now you are a weak, gluttonous, arogant and fat country, Who rely on the UK and the UN to keep your borders safe. Carry on living in denial, cause if the chinese don't kick your ass the russians will. What do you think russia has been doing for the last 15 years? while fat america has been running it's mouth lol
[Off-topic] roofrider:
:confused::silly:
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
facepalm.jpg

You do realize there isn't a military in the world that can touch the US right? And how do you figure that the UK and the UN (the most worthless thing in existance) keep America's borders safe?
[Off-topic] adamski123:
Well olympic football is crap anyway.... I mean come on, why don't they just make it all ages!

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Oh gosh -_- u obviously have no idea what supporting a team is like nor playing grass roots football...

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I mean at the end of the day everybody I have nothing against American sports nor woman's football, but nothing quite compares to football/soccer, I mean look at this trailer-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8jFHBXtZOs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

That's what football is about.
[Off-topic] NobleDroid:
Olympic football is probably the worst and most boring football event :rolleyes: