yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
Nope, not angry at all. Just responding to someone who obviously is. ;)
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
dont poo poo on peoples parade, this is about as close as it will get to a guarantee, as the final would be way more secured than something like the DK28 leak... I swear it was intentional as an appetizer...
[Epic 4G General] socos25:
You people are hilarious.. I can honestly say I am so greatful I don't have to get up everyday and be you.. It must be miserable.
[Epic 4G General] mxcoldhit:
This is the best news ive had today. The other news that I got was that the irs is taking my money, and I didn't save money by switching to geico.

Sent from my Shoe.... I mean my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
They rule my world these days...Computer Love!
[Epic 4G General] Epic_Delo:
All I can say is, its about freakin time. Hopefully nothing gets changed at the last minute
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
Seriously. The reason why I even care about Froyo at all at this point isn't because of a phone, I'm content with mine as it is for the time being. It has more to do with the hope that the Epic subsection (though this may well turn out to be a pipe dream even then) actually reverts to resembling the other civil & constructive areas of XDA that most of us are more used to browsing/reading. Otherwise XDA might as well rename/retheme this section of their website as something along the lines of Sid & Marty Kroft Presents: The Samsung Epic 4G Wacky World of Angst, Misery & Mayhem™.
[Epic 4G General] gokuman56:
For those nonbelievers,

Here is the link:

http://cdn.lts.cr/files/3a44455573c4c6529fc8/idr_sft_htc_epic.pdf
[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
There are a lot of long words in there, Miss; we're naught but humble pirates.
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
Carribean or Penzance?
[Epic 4G General] Darkk69:
Thanks for the post. At the end of the PDF file I get this:

ERROR: undefined

OFFENDING COMMAND: "6M!!!$"!s$ji!!!!:H

STACK:

I know it's just something with PDF but thought it was funny.
[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
Me -- Carribean

You -- Penzance

Oh, and me? Done.
[Epic 4G General] DangerZone1223:
CRAP!!! We might not. There's a new build dated today:

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EB17.rdf
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
May just be wishful thinking on my part but I think they continue to build after a release in case maintenance is needed or more testing. Maybe we are getting 2.3 after all...?
[Epic 4G General] sauron0101:
Imagine if we actually got Gingerbread ... lol; probably won't happen.

Back on topic, I guess we will know within the next week or so.
[Epic 4G General] gokuman56:
I think they are still updating the PDF
[Epic 4G General] crawrj:
Am I the only one that finds this part funny? 67% of users are currently on SW DI18 so the first OTA package we will publish will be an upgrade from DI18 – Froyo (DL11).
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
i caught that as well.
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
I'd like an explanation of that, actually. That's the shipping ROM for the Epic, so why is some intermediate step (right?) necessary? I'm confused.
[Epic 4G General] crawrj:
No DI18 is the current official release. DL11 was the release that was supposed to drop around Christmas.
[Epic 4G General] Gersonian:
Wow. I think I might have pointed this conundrum out like 6 pages ago. Why push an outdated version of the build? Briefmobile has even tweeted about this.

Update: Briefmobile has changed his tune: BriefMobile

Epic 4G users: new information leads me to the conclusion that an update on Monday is probable. It may be newer than EB13, though.
[Epic 4G General] crawrj:
I take a different perspective on this one. I don't think they are releasing DL11. I think they just used the same document that they were going to use for DL11 and overlooked that DL11 in the text. Which makes me laugh because if they pulled it in December for DL11 they could certainly pull it again now. I hate to dash anyone's hopes but until I see a public announcement from Sprint that the Epic is getting an update I am not holding my breath.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
I am guessing that they just haven't updated it yet. This is probably good evidence that they WERE going to release on December 26th but something last minute caused them to pull it.
[Epic 4G General] Darkk69:
I honestly believe EB13 is going to be released on the 21st. Any other versions after that is just going to be for maintance release later.

I think folks at Sprint and Samsung signed off on EB13 so that is the version we are probably going to get on Monday.

So we'll see what happens at that time.
[Epic 4G General] TheDub:
They were pretty quick about pushing out letters that they were taking away early upgrade from most of us...

but not a word about the things their customers really want...

I don't blame Samsung for this and I don't think we should either.. Samsung has obviously been working on this with all the builds we know about, some only a week or two apart. I'm sure Sprint is nitpicking this thing to death.. Samsung probably wanted to push DL11 and then additional OTA's as bugs arose.. it's Android, if sprint expects something 100% bugless they clearly don't understand the complexity of the software.

The only thing I think Samsung (and sprint for that matter) have done wrong is A) Releasing a product with a serious bug (GPS) B) Not being vocal with their customers and using vague terms like "ASAP"
[Epic 4G General] edonnelly:
EB17 says "Version Android 2.2"
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
I mean down the road, certainly not in the near future, if at all. Supposedly a faster path to 2.3, but if we don't get it by May we won't get it at all officially, just my guess.
[Epic 4G General] diego1985:
Lol, I think everyone knows who ever writes a whole diary in thi forum explaining his life and degree is mad lol. This is funny keep em coming dude rofl.

I hate "Top Flight Security Mods"
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
I think this is the "bright future" noobnl was referring to.
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
Only if they collaborate with XDA devs to make it the ultimate transforming Gingerbread ROM ;-)
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
Haha, I think everyone knows that someone who continually posts trying to convince people that something will never happen and they're stupid for believing such even in the face of evidence it indeed is happening is mad as well, though in a different context obviously. ;)
[Epic 4G General] Squeaky369:
They didn't send out an announcement back in December to all the employees with the software update information in it though. Everyone got that email today with that information in it about the update. The PDF is from the internal software site and may be out of date; but they wouldn't inform everyone if they weren't going to do it.

The only way this is going to get pulled from release, is if it starts bricking peoples phone's like it did when they released the Intercept 2.2 update, which is why they held all this back for this long. I'd rather wait a few months then have a bricked phone. They would have to exchange them; yes. But I know for a fact that our store has about 30 Epics, and I know more than 30 people WITH Epics. So there would be a huge problem if they bricked everyones phone and needed to replace them.
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
I suppose its possible they're working towards a post-release patch to fix some more minor issue(s) they've encountered through testing (hopefully indeed minor for most anyway). As long as 2.2.1 is above all else stable, and addresses some of the more major issues several seem to have such as GPS consistency, that's the key thing. Beyond that, the fact there's already a newer version still I think should be taken as a positive sign, just as the evidence from a few weeks ago of all the progress made since DK28 of different builds/versions is a positive, even if the wait has been frustrating.
[Epic 4G General] flopez76:
So what now? Do we ODIN back to 2.1 and wait for the OTA, or just hold out till 2.2.1 gets posted in the forums?
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
Several folks have said just to wait and that there would soon be an update.zip posted here (edit: here as in the Epic dev forum, not literally this one) that people could use and would work from other ROMs I believe. And unless you're one of the lucky first few to see the OTA update, it'd probably show up here and end up being much faster to download & update that way anyway, probably even moreso than waiting on OTA to kick in even if you're on stock.
[Epic 4G General] sprintemployee2:
Froyo EB13 Confirmed 2/21 OTA

Just wanted to let you guys know it is confirmed - sent via corporate email to employees about 8pm this evening. I don't take pics because I care about my job but it is HERE FINALLY.

You will see pic confirmations in the morning I'm sure but this is NOT A JOKE.

Whoever said the 2/21 date was RIGHT!!!

Call sprint in the AM and ask if you want... It's in their email.
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
While this may get folded into the monster 2.2 rumor thread I wanted to say "thanks." (I guess I choose to believe you are who you say.) But I am interested in one trivial question: why didn't this already show up in the "weekly playbook" I have heard about? Once we were told it wasn't in there some of us collectively sighed (heh heh).
[Epic 4G General] Elite11b:
Well I hope so I'm actually looking forward to this one.
[Epic 4G General] flopez76:
Thanks, now merge this bad boy into the FroYo thread
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Thread cleaned and merged. No flaming please
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Last minute decision by Sprint to earn the slightest bit of credibility back and ride the coattails/help create the big announcement? Anyone in the corporate world has seen their boss create a last ditch effort and go all-in in a bad situation.
[Epic 4G General] Darkk69:
Thank you for the exciting news. :-) Once 21st hits and people starting to get their EB13 updates things will look good for everybody. Hopefully it will go smooth but hence the memo to give you guys heads up in case some updates didn't go well.

I am too looking forward to it on the 21st :)

I guess a couple of weeks later the devs will get the source code to start working on the incredible ROMS. :-) Exciting times. :-)

Darkk
[Epic 4G General] Rudyblah:
.5 it would appear that he's on a test phone
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
You need a 10 character long message to post from XDA app
[Epic 4G General] Beezer80:
Gotcha, thanks.
[Epic 4G General] Beezer80:
I feel less dumb tonight, immediatley.
[Epic 4G General] popper668:
too late 10
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
i do like the picture of ea17 in version also maybe finally it will be here!!! that would be sweet, if not thats cool too cause im on bug free no issues whatsever bonsai with new wifi tether. :)
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
That is the perfect description for how I feel.
[Epic 4G General] nadcicle:
Here's a video of it in action :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRyj5cHIQA
[Epic 4G General] imwillzillla:
its beyond you because you aren't paying attention. Promised the software upgrade "soon after release" and it never happened. Then months later it was promised in December and never happened. The phone came with a buggy version as well. If you paid attention to the issues with GPS, clear data coverage in question, and so on you'd probably have a better understanding and it wouldn't be beyond you.

Ask me about my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
[Epic 4G General] nikon120:
Software is never 100% bug-free, but it's the development team and manufacturer's responsibility to make any transition as painless as possible. It's all business at this stage of the game. Negative marketing does play a factor with speeding up QA and release cycles, but not at the sake of more negative response and footing the bill to replace bricked phones from a failed build or OTA deployment.
[Epic 4G General] Darkk69:
Right now this is just pure speculation. It would be nice if they release us a beta to test and make suggestions before it's released to the general public.

Look what Microsoft did with Windows 7 before it was released as final. They made the beta available to test it on a larger scale and hear feedbacks. Something they should have done with Vista but we're not going there.

Darkk
[Epic 4G General] Darkk69:
Well, they are already recieving bad PR due to several delayed promises so whats one more egg on their faces?
[Epic 4G General] nikon120:
Imagine the severity and amount of negative PR if they released a bad build OTA and it was either unusable by many users and/or the deployment of a build bricked many phones.

I think it's better to take the current bad press versus the onslaught of negative press from a botched release/deployment. That's my perspective, but just saying. Ha ha. I'm speaking from personal work experience with software development and trying to possibly shed light on what may be going on in that zoo that is the Sprint/Samsung collaboration.

Anywho, I'll be waiting for the 21st to roll on by too.

Cheers.
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
I agree with nikon120. However, after taking so exceptionally long to deliver Froyo they had better get it damn near perfect. I for one would love to see better radio performance for call reception, and more reliable bluetooth with voice commands finally. GPS was supposedly such a big issue with the Epic but mine has never had a big issue and I'm on stock 2.1, so don't know if I'm just lucky or what. They have had months and I hope that time wasn't just spent with thumbs up asses or slapping new forms of Sprint bloatware on there but actually fixing issues and improving performance.
[Epic 4G General] SkepticalOptimist:
Even if sprint does get froyo out I will stick with nebula rom
[Epic 4G General] cary328is:
I don't think it's too far fetched. Vibrant already got theirs. And not sure if this is coincidence but South Africa Galaxy S is scheduled to get theirs a few days earlier on Feb 17:

http://samsungblog.co.za/blog/samsungteam/2011/01/samsung-galaxy-s-froyo-update-availability-south-africa

It sort of follows Samsung's pattern of update releases...Europe, Asia, Africa, then USA last. I'm just being optimistic I guess
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
I guess we will all see on that day. But that is on a Mon. Didn't someone say that ota usually start on Tuesday?

Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
The AC report also hints at the Fascinate getting theirs starting the next day (22nd).

And then there was this that popped up on Boy Genius Report earlier:

http://www.bgr.com/2011/02/08/att-support-page-shows-captivate-running-android-2-2-proves-its-possible/

May well end up being yet another dud (and if so, its old hat as everyone's been there/gotten the tshirt anyway), but seems like there's alot of coincidental Galaxy S/Froyo related news hitting at once not to at least raise an eyebrow, whether remaining skeptical or not. And if nothing else, at least the screenshot serves as proof of some progress having been made. That's more than we had 24 hours ago. *shrug*
[Epic 4G General] Kubernetes:
+1. Despite how it feels in here, the vast vast majority of smartphone users are not tech junkies watching the calendar for ROM releases. They might piss off a few thousand users by delaying Froyo, but they'll piss off a hell of a lot more if they botch the OTA and start bricking phones.
[Epic 4G General] dazednconfused:
I get tired of hearing the salesman at the Sprint store act like he knows the inside scoop, telling me it will be out in a couple of weeks for the last 3 months now.
[Epic 4G General] Gersonian:
I will go ahead and take credit for breaking the news to XDA via Android Central. But I am only doing it because its the first time its ever happened to me and I am a little excited. At the same time, nervous as crap with all the hype that I will get flamed if this fails to actually happen for some strange reason... Who will be the first to say "whoever promised us froyo on the 21st us full of sh*t... blah blah blah."

EDIT: Request: Anyone want to risk it and hook us up with a leak?! We know its out there!!!

Here's hoping it actually comes to fruition!
[Epic 4G General] sprintemployee2:
I have no idea about source code and I don't work with the software at all. I just happen to be watching my email this evening when it came in and the first thing I thought was to tell you guys!
[Epic 4G General] nyclio:
Froyo is a fact. No longer rumor. 2/21

Software Updates: Samsung Epic (EB13, Froyo) & Sanyo Zio (2.200SP, Froyo)

Effective 2/21/11, software updates will be available for both devices

Over-the-Air (OTA). Both updates will be pushed over a period of days, so customers will receive them based on their status on the Google servers.

Details:

Samsung Epic

Update will be pushed over a 4-day period

After the update completes, verify the new software version (Menu > Settings > About Phone)

Baseband Version = S:D700.0.5S.EB13

Build Number = FROYO.EB13

Enhancements/fixes: upgrade to Froyo 2.2, improved bluetooth device support, bluetooth voice dialing, Flash Player 10.1, GPS enhancements, improved OS performance, ability to install applications to external storage

Sanyo Zio

Updates will be pushed over a 5-day period

Customers are required to download (accept) three portions of the update to receive Froyo 2.2

Customers should use WiFi if possible to complete the update

After the updates complete, verify the new software version (Menu > Settings > About Phone)

Baseband Version = S.M910.04.5.DF05

Build Number = Samsung ÉCLAIR.DF05

Enhancements/fixes: upgrade to Froyo 2.2, addition of Swype, Sprint Zone 2.5.5, Sprint ID activation improvements, better battery life
[Epic 4G General] adelmundo:
Latepass. Old news already.
[Epic 4G General] bentiger:
This has already been posted in the 2.2 only thread and all other topics were merged there. Try reading those posts and replying there.
[Epic 4G General] jpeepers:
3...2...1.... thread locked :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
No. |
[Epic 4G General] Darkk69:
So now I know this is offically going to happen on Monday I can actually enjoy my three day weekend!! :)

P.S. If you going to post anything negative please don't. Wait till late next week so you don't rain on our parade.

Darkk
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
It was coming down to this or Carmelo to the Knicks to get me through the winter....
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
I hope this is an OK place to post this question but...does anyone anticipate difficulties with re-rooting after the upgrade, which of course will be required? I want to keep that process as simple as before, if I can.
[Epic 4G General] cozmonot:
Just wait for the rooted zip to hit the forums and you won't have to worry about it
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
Long as the source is trustworthy, that sounds good. As the blind man said, we shall see.
[Epic 4G General] flopez76:
This is what I'm wondering now that we will get FroYo on Monday, will the Epic community calm down? Will the flaming stop and will we see better dev support? Or will everything just be about 2.3?
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
It should cool down for a bit, nobody was promised or lead on to think we would get GB, if we do, great... but tweaked 2.2.1 from souce... who cares if we get 2.3?? Would be cool, but as long as 2.2.1 makes everything functional, and up to the potential of the device (with a lil XDA tweaking), then people should be content for a while. The Devs never stopped as far as I have seen, but there is only so much they can do till source. Then it should be an onslaught. I cant wait... fun forum again!

Holy crap, if you want to feel better, go read the samsung communication thread in the captivate general... THOSE guys are pissed... sounds like the captivate is a real POS... I am glad the Epic is at least pretty solid hardware-wise... if you think its not, look at its brethren
[Epic 4G General] danasmith2816:
Anyone know for sure if we have to Odin back to Eclair to do this or will it possibly load on DK28? :confused:
[Epic 4G General] tmspyder:
Posted on http://opensource.samsung.com/

I'm feeling a bit giddy
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
Woah nelly...and a thousand keyboards suddenly clicked at once...
[Epic 4G General] blazinazn:
Can we flash this through odin?!
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Try it. |
[Epic 4G General] blazinazn:
downloading right now
[Epic 4G General] readermo:
yes or no?
[Epic 4G General] blazinazn:
I'm kinda hesitant cause he didn't answer me. I was going to take a look at the .tar file and see if it even includes the modem.
[Epic 4G General] tmspyder:
I'm the cautious type,
[Epic 4G General] Pvt WhoOkid:
Somebody better backup that file before samsung takes it down lol.
[Epic 4G General] blackdragon79:
Finally a solid release date well hopefully

http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/02/18/samsung-epic-4g-android-2-2-froyo-update-new-release-date/
[Epic 4G General] qbking77:
Wont you need a .pit to flash through odin.?
[Epic 4G General] blazinazn:
Believe you are correct. I was reading through this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=773032

I'm sure most of the developers already downloaded the source/tar but I have it just in case they pull it.
[Epic 4G General] Pvt WhoOkid:
Be a pal upload it to megauploads, samsung site slow on my epic lol.
[Epic 4G General] edonnelly:
I'm suspecting that the posting of the source code early was the "big announcement" that was coming, so I bet it's going to stay up. Nevertheless, I could be wrong, so your advice is good.
[Epic 4G General] blazinazn:
Wish I could help ya out but I can't access megauploads at work. Sorry

EDIT: How about rapidshare?

http://rapidshare.com/files/448601877/SPH-D700_Froyo_update_EB13.tar.gz
[Epic 4G General] spdwiz18:
uploading. will have 2 sources shortly:

: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RK8VFU3Q

other failed
[Epic 4G General] tmspyder:
Pretty sure this is just source. But the devs will need to see it.
[Epic 4G General] Pvt WhoOkid:
Thanks anyway!
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
Has anyone been able to verify that he isn't really an Underwear Gnome?

Phase 1: Communication

Phase 2: Wait for it....

Phase 3: Profit!
[Epic 4G General] betterment66:
SOUTHPARK GNOMES!!! lol
[Epic 4G General] herzzreh:
Don't get all horny, people. If this doesn't fix phone's issues, then it's no better than what we have now. Considering how long theu took, they better fix everything. If they didn't... then this is really the last Sammy high end phone I bought.
[Epic 4G General] Ex0d0s:
Not flamming but lets be realistic, they probably did not fix everything that you would consider to be fixed. Sure they took long but this phone and every phone is prone to have bugs and things to be fixed. [reality check].

I do want to point out that Sammy needs mayor brownie points to fix all the client perspective damage that they have done. To give Gingerbread within this year will help.
[Epic 4G General] herzzreh:
Oh, I don't care if they didn't fix all the little craps, I'm a realist, but they better fix the major stuff - mainly GPS and accelerometer to some extent.
[Epic 4G General] rocket321:
Sprint Announced it officially for 2/21/11:

http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/262572#262572
[Epic 4G General] jasonsf:
So, can this thread close now? Or are there those who want to cling to this being only a rumor?
[Epic 4G General] jtw78:
We had some pretty close to official stuff in December and we got shafted then. Heck they've even started pushing the update on other carriers and had to pull it. We're not out of the woods yet.
[Epic 4G General] cozmonot:
I vote we don't close it until everything is ota'd and final..

Or we could change the name to gingerbread rumors :P
[Epic 4G General] Mook1e:
Froyo official for Epic on 21 Feb says Sprint

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-officially-announces-epic-4g-froyo-update-begin-feb-21
[Epic 4G General] xeonbuilder:
Boy,i just can't wait, lol, for sprint to shoot down this date as well.

So we should be getting 2.3 in like 2013?.