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[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Let me guess, youre birthers too...? Seriously though the official in Dec. was like the leak yesterday, an internal document, not Sprint ACTUALLY saying something in a forum thread. Yes, they can pull it last minute, or even during update... but with the devs already having a good chunk of source... im pretty sure if it got stopped, it would be due to catastrophy, and would get pushed ASAP. Oh, and screw Gingerbread. I just want a totally stable phone, OC kernels, and to try MIUI. I think noobs work is great, but CM better recognize soon... :) Epic owns all.

HAVE SOME FUN PEOPLE!
[Epic 4G General] InhumanElmo:
I am so excited that finally its happening. I really hope they don't pull the rug from underneath us and delay, or announce after we all get froyo that there will be NO chance of gingerbread hitting our phones officially. And I sure hope this doesn't brick our phones. That would be the worst after all this waiting to end up with a hunk of uselessness. Only time will tell...
[Epic 4G General] diego1985:
Lol me either "grabs popcorn". These Froyo pushbacks has created a hater in me, ill believe it when ppl receive otas.

I hate "Top Flight Security Mods"
[Epic 4G General] running_the_dream:
I agree. After next week, we change the thread to 'ONLY 2.3 THREAD ALLOWED! Gingerbread Rumor Thread'

:p
[Epic 4G General] flopez76:
Wouldn't this be the Official FroYo thread now, instead of Rumor? Lol
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Nope as stated above it should now be the Rumor of gingerbread thread. ;)
[Epic 4G General] magoo5289:
It's also official on Sprint's facebook page. Click "Just Sprint" to filter out the client posts

http://www.facebook.com/#!/sprint?v=wall
[Epic 4G General] blackdragon79:
Any clue on how the up coming froyo will be compare to the one on the evo. I tasted dk28 which was cool for a min. So I can't wait to see how the offcial will be.
[Epic 4G General] onesickvdub:
Were you referring to me? I was laughing at someone who was mad for no reason.

I live a pretty good life, actually, thanks for your concern.

PS: I'm grateful that I don't have to get up every day and not know how to spell.
[Epic 4G General] socos25:
Yes I was refering to you.. How could you guess? And yup I can't spell, but I'm still not miserable about it, nor am I crying over not getting an update for a phone.. So Sad... :D
[Epic 4G General] edonnelly:
Finally Froyo!

I mean, I'm not familiar with that term, but from all the excitement I assume it must be a codename for the new version of the Nascar app.
[Epic 4G General] babystewie:
I'm confused. I have a rooted phone on stock rom, will I get the OTA update?
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
No u have to odin back to di18

Sent from my epic s
[Epic 4G General] bohiti:
False. Rooted on stock is still dl18. You'll probably be good to go, if getting the official ota is your thing.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
yayyy FroYo is finally coming. Now where's our gingerbread!?!!? :P
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
Ya but he said he's on a rom I thought u won't get it if you are running a custom rom

Edit: my bad I miss read his thing hhaha stupid me. Ya ull be good to go buddy as long as u didn't remove system apps

Sent from my epic s
[Epic 4G General] cconwing:
This might be a stupid question but does having apps frozen with titanium backup effect anything?
[Epic 4G General] warrior420:
It's only stupid because its way off topic...
[Epic 4G General] rgraham8:
will we lose root if we OTA? is there a froyo root out if we do lose root?
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
According to multiple posts I've read, re-rooting is very easy and will be required after the OTA. However, an even better option to me sounds like getting a pre-rooted ROM file on here and doing it that way.

MY QUESTION IS: does flashing an update.zip erase the data on the phone, the equivalent of a "hard reset"? I have plenty of backups using MyBackup Root but would rather not use them unless I have to.
[Epic 4G General] cconwing:
I meant when updating to 2.2 because I know you have to be on stock with sprint apps but I have all the sprint apps frozen...do I need to unfreeze them to get the update?
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
It didn't when I flashed to DK28 in that manner.
[Epic 4G General] rocket321:
Going from eclair to froyo broke the my backup pro backups I had made before flashing dk28...consider yourself warned. I'd suggest doing a nandroid backup too, just incase.
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
I use MyBackup Root, but thanks for the warning and I'll investigate nandroid.
[Epic 4G General] betterment66:
Just one more day u guys! SERIOUSLY :-)
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
Happy froyo eve everyone!
[Epic 4G General] InhumanElmo:
today is going to be the longest day.... cant wait :)
[Epic 4G General] itisagoodname:
What a weekend...

Soft bricked the phone for 2 days after updating the ROM (and forgetting the damn dk28 radio). Finally got it back to stock. Updated, re-rooted, got wifi tethering working (which is all i effing wanted in the first place) and overclocked. Now all that work has to be redone when EB13 rolls out. gddamnit.

But its about time!
[Epic 4G General] magoo5289:
Does anyone know what time the release goes live at? midnight? or just whenever they feel like flipping the switch?
[Epic 4G General] Pettro:
Following the whole Vibrant 2.2 fiasco, I would imagine they would begin the roll-out working hours tomorrow. So you'll likely see the first wave finally start being put out by 9-5 PM, key cities and areas with best signal will probably be on the top of the list.
[Epic 4G General] noobnl:
Samsung Android 2.3 update coming? latest: EC05! [RUMOR THREAD]

There usually 2 development circles one is finishing froyo testing because communication: Testing and finding bugs and fixing can take a long time.

Right now they are finished with froyo, They will allocate full time working on gingerbread!

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EB17.rdf can possibly be gingerbread, in their spare time, they could be working on another release

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EB20.rdf

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EB28.rdf

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EC05.rdf
[Epic 4G General] globalninja:
I guess it could be a possibility, but I have learned to just wait and see. It would be a nice surprise though.
[Epic 4G General] daddymikey1975:
not quite sure what that page is for noob, but i found the following on there rwice

seems as if it's for eclair.
[Epic 4G General] JMMusic:
There is an "OSVersion" entry. In past postings in that location it changed from 2.1 to 2.2 when expected. It still shows 2.2. That's not a Gingerbread build.

Sent from my Epic 3g
[Epic 4G General] noobnl:
it could be there to fool people. they did it with dj27, our first froyo leak
[Epic 4G General] JMMusic:
There isn't a posting for DJ27... I don't think anyone was fooled.

DK13 is the first build that shows as 2.2. DK05 still showed 2.1. That could possibly indicate that they have two build queues and between the 5th and the 13th they made the 2.2 build queue the primary official queue. But I don't see any attempt to fool people. That would be pretty illogical (not impossible, just illogical), as an indication they were working on 2.3 would make people a lot happier than that they were still working on another update to 2.2.
[Epic 4G General] tenaciousj:
I hope we do see Gingerbread. If so I might actually use this phone til my contract ends in 15 months.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
I personally don't think thats Gingerbread...to assume it is would be assuming they don't plan to release any minor updates for Froyo and go straight to Gingerbread..which is unlikely..

If they were working on 2 branches at the same time..they would most likely skip 1-2 letters as they did for the i9000 and call it ED17 or something..EB17 is probably Froyo patches for next minor update..
[Epic 4G General] skyjedi:
one can only hope
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I dont see 2.3 in there anywhere. I saw 2.2 EB17 once, and 2.1-update1 twice

Sent from my never been rooted, always stock eclair Epic.
[Epic 4G General] styckx:
Hmm, its possible this is an official XDA rumor thread.

Let's run down the list from the OP.

*No mention of 2.3: [√]

*Nothing even eluding to 2.3: [√]

*Misleading post pointing to useless link: [√]

*Post contains no facts: [√]

*OP contains story about a friend who knows a friend who is a Sprint Rep: [X]

Ohhhhhh, so sorry.. Almost met the correct criteria. Please try again. :)
[Epic 4G General] DevinXtreme:
That's not how Samsung build numbers work at all...

E = 2011

B = February

17 = Well, the 17th

What noobnl is pointing out is that three days ago, another build was compiled. This means absolutely nothing. It would be nice for Gingerbread to come to our phones officially, but I'm not holding my breath. I'd rather have CM7 anyway.
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
U meant e=2011
[Epic 4G General] poit:
EB13 is probably not the end of the line for Froyo development. More likely it was finally clean enough for release, and they will have at least one more maintenance release for additional bug fixes, which is why you still see development.

Gingerbread would be nice though.
[Epic 4G General] DevinXtreme:
Derp, fixed.
[Epic 4G General] nubsors:
From a business standpoint it doesn't make sense to work on gb as they just made their epic owners very happy nd they never promised gb for the epic. I would honestly give up on any dreams to the contrary. We have 2.2 and that is the most we should expect.
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
The only reason they would release 2.3 for our phones is to make try to show that they are working on rectifying the problems they had in the past. This would make a better purchasing decision for people in the future. I highly doubt we will see GB officially, given the obstacles it took to upgrade to 2.2.1 on our Epics. If you dont get your hopes up, then nothing can break them. It's always said EA17 on that page and not EA13 from what I remember.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Those numbers only happen when Samsung is working on 1 branch..in the i9000 scenario samsung was working on another branch..

If you look at i9000 forum they have a JS5 rom...can you tell me what month that is?

Thats what they do in branching...lets say you have JK1..you skip to JP1 for froyo and JM1 would be updates to Eclair as Froyo continues into JS1 and etc...
[Epic 4G General] ishal:
It is possible that EB13 has some nasty bugs and they are releasing it anyways since we have been an angry mob for a while. Hopefully this is not just some more cleaned up version of 2.2
[Epic 4G General] lviv73:
I can see if it was just another Samsung phone but Epic is a flagship device and is available on 6 major carriers in US and not to mention the rest of the world.

If they dont update Epics/Vibrants/Fascinates/Captivates and other two(forgot the names) that says alot about Samsung's phone division!

If thats the case then a really hope that Apple's 7 billion dolar purchase from Samsung included Super Amoled Plus,lol.Or hope that any company(Sony,HTC,LG,Moto) gets Super Amoleds because I know many people would love to switch to another company that takes care of their consumers(Apple and HTC) but lack of S Amoleds holds them back.

Is Nexus One still get updates?Is iphone 3G still get updates?And Galaxy S line is larger than iphone and Nexus One,point made.Whats the point of buying anything from Samsumg if after one update its abandoned?
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
The best way to know is the i9000..it is more then likely that the i9000 will get GB before us if it comes...and we will know beforehand because it will be leaked on samsfirmware...

As for AMOLED..the only other company that I know that makes those screens is LG...and their current AMOLED offering for portables is 3"..but I did see their 31" Glasses free 3D AMOLED TV(2.9mm thin) and it was hot :P..better then Super AMOLED Plus even...
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
The build letters and numbers are different from carrier to carrier. All Samsung devices on Sprint use the E for 2011, and A thru L for the months.
[Epic 4G General] phdeez:
You are saying we should be "happy" with a release of software that came out months before our phone was released? For it being a "flagship" phone for multiple carriers (at one point or another) I think this is "deserved"... hopefully it will be stable and at least mostly bug-free- we'll see tomorrow.

Lame expectation....

The only thing that has kept me happy this long was the hardware (I've not experienced the multitude of problems others have).
[Epic 4G General] maddoggin:
Is this eastern time?
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
..there are more then 3 numbers..we use the last 3 numbers for our indicators..the number formula is the same from them all..(The exception here is they use J for 2010 instead of D..)

JE2 for example exists on i9000

A=Jan

B=Feb

C=March

D=April

E=May

F=June

The i9000 came out in May..they use EXACTLY the same formula on all handsets..for branching they skip letters..

I9000XXJF3 for example..

I9000

XX = Country/Carrier

JF3=June 3rd

Epic: D700.0.5S.DK28 (November 28th 2010)

Intercept: M910.0.5S.DL05 (December 5th 2010)

Fascinate: i500.0.4V.EB01 (Feb 1st 2011)
[Epic 4G General] DevinXtreme:
I'm very confused now. What point are you trying to make, because you just said what I said.... just a lot more elaborately.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
I was trying to explain to mattallica76 that the formula is the same for all phones...

--

What I am saying is by trends Samsung skips letters to indicate branching..this way they can continue with both branches while keeping their formula...

This is why EB17 can't be Gingerbread..the only way it could be Gingerbread is if they dont plan to release any minor updates for Froyo..

Either way there is no branching on the EB17 name
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
I hope your right! I remember reading somewhere that gingerbread will fully utilize the hummingbird processor?
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
I understand what your saying. My guess for your example of the JS05 ROM would be a build date of July 5, 2010. Assuming they start with M for January in the branched builds.
[Epic 4G General] blackdragon79:
I would think like most updates that i have got in the past with previous phones it usually starts downloading in the background between 12am and 2am. So i would start checking my phone like around 1am.
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
Turns out they cancelled the update last second. What they really meant was next week on Monday. They are gonna officially release a apology for the confusion. Please confer to your nearest Sprint dealer to get upgraded before the date previously mentioned.
[Epic 4G General] flopez76:
If you're trying to be funny... I hate you... and if you're serious I hate you even more
[Epic 4G General] blackdragon79:
Wow what a shocker
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
Not even remotely funny. The posse is heading your way and when they get there they plan on taking certain body parts of yours and turning them over to the "Will It Blend" guy for further analysis...
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Is it irony that my computer's memory died today?
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Good, I hate irony.
[Epic 4G General] herzzreh:
It's 53 minutes until the 21st. When will the OTA be available? Also... n/m.. this is for the next installment of ask-a-stupid-question.
[Epic 4G General] lazyart:
It's 12:03 and no FroYo yet! I knew Sprint & Samsung were leaving us out to dry. I'm switching to AT&T and getting a RAZR.
[Epic 4G General] Dr.Nauseous:
probably better off with a dumb feature phone anyway :) kinda hard to brick those...
[Epic 4G General] blackdragon79:
They still make the razor? Yes finally all this time I spent with an android when I could of been enjoying a razor lol
[Epic 4G General] Dr.Nauseous:
btw post is #666 :eek:
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Side note: That page says Picturemailsupport: No

Videomailsupport: yes

Sent from my never been rooted, always stock eclair Epic.
[Epic 4G General] dieselg5:
1am eastern and still no froyo
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Where is it where is it where is it where is it where is it where is it where is it where is it where is it where is it where is it where is it where is it where is it where is it where is it where is it where is it
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
You have to go to sleep for the Tooth Fairy to appear. :p
[Epic 4G General] nintendo2010:
I wish.:confused::):)
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
If anyone receives the update, please contact me by personal message AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

BEFORE

you install the update!

Please please please...thank you
[Epic 4G General] Magic Oreo:
do what he said!!! :eek: it will help us all :D
[Epic 4G General] betterment66:
omg its already rolling out

http://goo.gl/fb/A1pPj
[Epic 4G General] betterment66:
omg its already rolling out!!!!!!!

http://goo.gl/fb/A1pPj

says the manaual update chek doesnt speed up things though
[Epic 4G General] Root Virgin:
Epic FROYO Update Starts Today (Unless they pull it)

Sprint site announced the update starting today Feb 21-25.

Hope it works and doesn't get pulled like last Dec 17s Samsung Intercept update.

It should make a great phone fantastic if all goes well.
[Epic 4G General] kbboykin:
Has anyone on this forum gotten it yet?
[Epic 4G General] huntm856:
Someone on the Sprint Community boards reported getting it sometime today, but didn't give any details. Their board doesn't appear to display precise post times, so I can't tell when.

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/62611;jsessionid=C0AE01BA71A7DB2C145AACC0C1ADD12F.app4jive2
[Epic 4G General] kbboykin:
Yeah, he was in Florida and got it around 4:00 am, he posted on PPC Geeks Forum. But it apparently failed because he had removed some stock apps. So far, he is the only one I have heard of.
[Epic 4G General] niv3d:
I'm in Florida and I haven't seen anything! :/
[Epic 4G General] crabjoe:
There's someone on the Sprint Forum that's stated they've got it and was waiting for it to install. Stated it was asking permission to install a lot of new apps.
[Epic 4G General] kbboykin:
So how does it work?, it is pushed in waves each day, but will slowly trickle all day long or is it a continuous push until done, but takes 4-5 days? Anybody?
[Epic 4G General] blazinazn:
Yes, starts today until this Friday.
[Epic 4G General] kbboykin:
Thanks. Still have not heard or have any definite confirmation of anyone receiving it and having installed it successfully yet.
[Epic 4G General] blazinazn:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/62611?start=45&tstart=0&reqsorting=dec

Post 48 on page 4
[Epic 4G General] kbboykin:
Yeah, that's the guy I posted about earlier. He got it but it failed to install due to missing stock apps.
[Epic 4G General] dieselg5:
Sprint should post the update on their website to save us a lot of time and them a lot of strain on their network.
[Epic 4G General] :
I wish. I hope someone can post an update.zip file since I'm a noob:(

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] blazinazn:
That's what I keep hoping. They did this for the moment. I keep checking the Sprint website but no dice.
[Epic 4G General] dieselg5:
Anyone checking their twitter and fb?
[Epic 4G General] crawrj:
OMG this wait is worse than waiting on it for the last 6 months.
[Epic 4G General] kbboykin:
According to this post, it will not start until 9:00 PM tonight unless the Sprint Admin person made a typo: http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/263401#263401
[Epic 4G General] ryno502:
That has to be a typo. Unless the people on other forums that have reported that they got the update were lying.
[Epic 4G General] jasonsf:
Here's twitter post of a guy who says he got it.

http://twitter.com/#!/Crutnacker/status/39699509630083072
[Epic 4G General] noobnl:
http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EB20.rdf
[Epic 4G General] InhumanElmo:
From the ones that I have seen that got it, it seems to be too few to be real. One would expect more than just 4-5 people having it on multiple forums. Hope that post about 9PM is wrong. Still nothing on my phone atleast -_-
[Epic 4G General] ryno502:
Sounds like the guy was joking.
[Epic 4G General] globalninja:
Either they are releasing a buggy build and that is a MR, or they doing last minute fixes.
[Epic 4G General] jasonsf:
The last OTA rolled out to me on day 4 so I'm not hopeful.
[Epic 4G General] ryno502:
Well, not everyone with an Epic posts on message boards, so its possible that Sprint already pushed out a wave of updates but it hasn't been received by the right people yet.
[Epic 4G General] kbboykin:
Is he saying he doesn't want it on his phone? Send me the update.zip then... ; )
[Epic 4G General] jasonsf:
Nothing new, but the Epic Maintenance blog just got updated in the Sprint Forums.

http://community.sprint.com/baw/com.../2010/11/08/samsung-epic-maintenance-releases
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
we wil have to wait and see i do believe after the beating sprint and samsung took over the last couple of weeks i would hope they were on the offensive. Unfortunately their moves often seem very reactionary. So noob if eb20 isnt gingerbread can you give us cm7? please?
[Epic 4G General] quik99:
Currently Being Moderated 11. Feb 21, 2011 Posted in response to: TOOCALM234

Re: 2/21 - Samsung Epic Maintenance Release - EB13 (Android 2.2)

The software is pushed from Google's servers. All upgrades from Google is pushed via OTA. We were notified this morning that it would not post until 9PM PST. The end date hasn't changed so everyone should have received the update within 4 days from today.

That was posted by "sprint admin" on the http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/263401#263401
[Epic 4G General] f0xblade:
Just to add to the compilation, androinica.com has posted that the updates are queued and that hitting magic update button won't help.

I'm not allowed to post links yet... perhaps someone can.

I think 9PM is a type-o. Sprint has been pretty sloppy about keeping their public release information accurate.
[Epic 4G General] maddoggin:
The sprin.t admin says it won't roll out until 9pm pst.

Edit* not a typo!
[Epic 4G General] incisivekeith:
If this is the case, then yet again, Sprint has failed to communicate clearly to its customers, which at this point, is completely unacceptable. Being diplomatic is not the right way to deal with the community right now.

Announcing the update will be released on the 21st, and then announcing it will be released after 9:00 p.m. ON 21st, goes to show they take their customers as fools - again, unacceptable. It's about time they stop engaging in nonsensical and frivolous tactics such as these. I hope they are made to realize this, yet again, on Facebook and Twitter.
[Epic 4G General] wxrman:
peak download times

I'm betting the 9pm PST is so these large downloads occur overnight when off-peak usage occurs.

Fine with me... I bought the phone, as is... any upgrades are a bonus.

..and I sure would like to see an Epic 2, someday.

shawn
[Epic 4G General] jonzjos:
I'd say they communicated it very clearly. 2/21/11 starting 9pm over 4 days. Excellent!
[Epic 4G General] incisivekeith:
They did this today, ON the 21st, not before this. When they announced the update a couple of days ago, it was THEN that they should have announced the time, too, not today. Quite unprofessional.
[Epic 4G General] shook187:
Get over it guys. You guys are like little kids waiting for christmas.
[Epic 4G General] maddoggin:
I agree announcing the update will be ota on the 21st and not being specific about the time knowing people will assume at the least working hours on the 21st is messed up. Now the 21st is here and they decide to announce it will be 9pm. after they have promised froyo since oct. Last year and effin that up you would think they would be a little more specific and responsive to customers to at least try to make up for that! I love my phone but sprint really has to improve in customer service!
[Epic 4G General] maddoggin:
Exactly!
[Epic 4G General] jonzjos:
They did say it was over 4 day period. You could be first or last. Keep your expectations in line. Yes, I'm looking forward to it. I'll be patient until then and humble when I get it.