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[Epic 4G General] tpike:
http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=13190

T I was just updated on this information. Please do not update your Epic until Sprint has worked out the kinks. If you have already updated it and are having issues please call Technical Support.

Thank You,

dams

General Business South Account Executive

(9168 Cell

(91168 Fax

(800)-927-2199 Premier Care

(800) 639-6111 Customer Care

(877) 654-9111 Technical Support

Tams@sprint.com

Sprint

14way, Suite 106 A, Cary, NC 27513

No one waits...with the Sprint Now Network.

sorry this is definately not a rumor. just received this from my corporate rep. i removed some of her personal info as im sure she doesnt want all this coming out and her getting backlash. i find it funny it says 'no one waits' in her signature, how long have we been waiting?
[Epic 4G General] stud_muffler:
Galaxy S will get the 2.3 in March...

Galaxy S will get the 2.3 in March... Epic probably later.

Source: http://androidcommunity.com/galaxy-s-android-2-3-gingerbread-update-imminent-20110225/

or http://www.slashgear.com/gingerbread-for-galaxy-s-in-march-confirms-samsung-25136186/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+slashgear+%28SlashGear%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

:cool:
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
I wouldn't count on in it getting here "legit" through Sprint, but it might be nice.
[Epic 4G General] lazyart:
So, when do we sticky this thread and take down the 2.2 thread?
[Epic 4G General] punwik:
future upgrades

I think froyo will be it for the epic. With all the new phones coming out and the "galaxy S2" The epic will be left by the wayside because it was a complete failure. Even EB13 has failed us. If we want something better we are going to have to fork over more money to a company that does NOT give a damn.
[Epic 4G General] Android_X1:
I think you're right. I regret going with the Epic these days. The EVO 4G would have been a better bet.
[Epic 4G General] FoxRacR17:
Yup, the epic is the last samsung phone that i will ever buy. I bought it for the keyboard and the screen, but the keyboard misses keys all the time and while the screen is great its not worth all this trouble. Im going back to HTC and never leaving them again.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
The Hero existed for a lot longer, it was one of HTC's earlier phones with weak security, and we had phones with same CPU and hardware on winmo that were already hacked and people familiar with...

You have missing keys on EB13?

---

And as far as going with the Epic I generally feel fine with it..it hasn't failed me yet...as for future of Samsung..well depends if they manage to get Gingerbread out..if they do I'll give them a chance..I mean lets look at it this way..the EVO has yet to get 2.2.1 update ;) lol
[Epic 4G General] SPElectronics:
I was LOL'ing as I read that line too!
[Epic 4G General] watermoore:
Samsung / HTC

Samsung is in business to make money. HTC IS a phone manufacturer. Thats all HTC does. If HTC pulled this kind of BS with customers they would probably have already closed their doors.

Samsung is a money making business and they will do anything to turn the buck. If you disagree don't forget, they only make: Televisions, DVD Players, Bluray players, Camcorders, Digital Photo Frames, Monitors, Clocks, Cameras, Washing Machines, Dryers, Microwaves, Dishwashers, Ranges, Laptops, oh yeah and Cellphones and some of them are even Android phones ;-)

Once they have your money they could give a rip about you. They seem to be interested in getting in on whatever is hot and current to get the money. Spending money on a team of developers to help keep "old" devices up to date so existing users can stay current, read: "happy" ,without spending any more money, isn't a directly profitable pursuit. Probably, the only reason Samsung has developers working on upgrades at all is because the competition does it.

I am not supporting Samsung or their business approach but lets face it Samsung is kind of a money whore. They are horribly mediocre. They are not about being the best or being cutting edge. Their business strategy seems to be "Take everything successful from the competition, shove it in a product, market that product to shape the publics perception that its different or "better", then profit from it." They are never first and they are never last. I would call Samsung a giant industry copy cat.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
HTC pulled this kind of BS and worse before...

for one: http://htcclassaction.org/

What business isn't a money making one? well aside from ones tat go bankrupt...and they make more then that..you only talking about "Samsung Electronics".."Sasmung Group" makes everything down to ships...

Yes this is probably true..Samsung is originally a component supplier..and they are trying to spread into the consumer space...overall many of the industry they enter they get JD Power customer satisfaction award...I mean try this, take a broken phone and send it to Samsung for warranty and then try that with HTC...Samsung will take care of you..HTC will hold your phone hostage until you pay them...

I think samsung is just not familiar with the mobile space very well :/

Samsung usually tries to dish out the best components...but I wont deny they probably need a bigger development team...if anything I think they should really stop trying to make all these variants of the SGS so different..if they would make it that the same rom works on all phones and all they had to do was add on bloat it would save them a lot of development time...

As for taking successful stuff from competition..everyone does that..Apple, Samsung, HTC, Sprint you name it...Recreating the wheel costs money and risk..so many first copy the wheel then once you've got market-share worry about recreating it..
[Epic 4G General] Hasseo:
Agreed. 100% agreed. I really regret getting the Epic. I wish Sprint would do something for us, like letting us swap our phones or something. Samsung promised us 2.2 "soon after the release." What we got was an update that pretty much screwed the people who installed it over. I think everyone who paid $250 for this phone is pissed. If Samsung didn't say "2.2 coming soon", I'm pretty sure this wouldn't be as big of a problem.

That's just my $0.02.

I just realized how off-topic that was.

On topic now:

I would love to see Gingerbread soon. But, my guess is that if we don't see a leaked Gingerbread within the next... 2-3 months, Samsung has abandoned the Epic.

Sent from the Epic that bites.
[Epic 4G General] watermoore:
HTC wasnt considered a top of line cellular phone manufacturer then. So I am not sure what your point is. They grew largely from the success of their pioneer android devices like the g1, hero etc.

Secondly I am not trying to start a flame war or anything with anybody. This is my opinion and its mainly in regard to the continual flaming that goes on in this forum to samsung for being so slack on releasing a stable froyo release. How can you argue that samsung really is trying its best to put out a stable froyo release and they simply cant do it?

The point I was trying to make, was that Samsung is a business that is as diverse as businesses come. Their sole interest isn't in making sure all of the android fanatics like myself and many of the members in this forum are satisfied with up to date android releases. There are probably a ton of EPIC owners have no idea that they even own an android phone. The common consumer isnt a tech savy phone hacker that hangs around on XDA waiting for their favorite devs to update their ROMs, Samsung knows that. Since software development teams aren't cheap, its probably is not a priority for them.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Samsung did not promise anything...they only spoke for the i9000 phones..the ones who promised 2.2 soon was sprint employees...

You say that but they were virtually on every carrier..they weren't properly known among consumers, yes..but back then it was not a smartphone market..back then they used to make ALL the Dell and HP pdas..thats pretty big in itself...but they lacked "communication" with the consumer as they used to be the back end dealer..it took them YEARS to get it going..Samsung right now is in same boat...they need to appeal to consumers of this market more..

And HTC always shafts us with crappy hardware..I mean name the ONLY big player who still hasnt announced a dual core and is releasing 1.2ghz single cores...or 1.5ghz single core tablets...yup..

I am not even trying to protect Samsung..but I just feel people have a slanted view..the grass is not greener on the other side...for one, which phone has a "stable" froyo release with 0 issues? because I sure can't name one...

I wouldn't say that 100% true..the i9000 get A LOT of updates and they got Froyo before us..have you seen how many different firmware they got? as far as the Epic, sure its slow but we saw it ourselves..there is a new test/beta build every week..so you cant say they are doing nothing...

Its true samsung is diverse..but they are multiple times bigger then HTC...so they can handle it...doing multiple things does in no way hurt you..its about how big their mobile division that counts...

Now, name me 1 HTC phone that has official 2.2.1?

Also...while it is true Samsung does not appeal to developers too much..neither does HTC..at least Samsung releases Source Code on time...HTC still hasnt released source code for OVER HALF of their phones...yup they are violating the GPL..and people requested it on multiple occasions only to be played...

HTC even goes as far as to REFUSE to release a Honeycomb tablet just because they cant load Sense on it..aka HTC does not believe in ASOP at all :/

The Advantage HTC has to developers is that developers are more used to how HTC does things and HTC is inexperienced at locking their phones..which is improving every release..

In reality, with tools like Odin and etc...Samsung is A LOT more developer friendly then HTC..

So Again I am not defending Samsung..they have A LONG WAY TO GO! but HTC is not what people make it out to be...
[Epic 4G General] Mutiny32:
I'm not so sure about the Galaxy S2 being as widely accepted as the Galaxy S was by carriers. Samsung has proven that it is totally incompetent when it comes to the software side of the phone and has really brought heat down on carriers from angry customers. This was already strike 2 for Samsung and Android, showing that they didn't learn from their experience in pissing off paying customers the first time. Sure, it may have sold 10 million units or whatever, but now that customers have discovered that Samsung is so bad at making quality software for their phones that it almost looks like it's intentional, I'd doubt they'd be inclined to buy another Samsung device ever again. Carriers know this as well. I wouldn't doubt it if we never saw a Galaxy S2 device on Sprint or many other major US carriers.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
You guys need to stop saying "name an htc device with 2.2.1"

Wasn't the .1 just to block z4root exploit? So there the same things....just 2.2.0 can get rooted with z4root while 2.2.1 can't...

Personally, I think samsung should make the hardware and have htc handle software. No sense. Just aosp like n1 and so on
[Epic 4G General] abattaglini:
Walked into a Sprint corporate store bought the Epic and they loaded EB13 for me. The guy had it ready to go in his pocket.
[Epic 4G General] pyroswithoutfire:
Even then 2.2 to 2.2.1 isn't as big of a jump as 2.1 to 2.2. Honestly both htc and samsung have issues. I mean look at what happened with the Hero and the Moment. The whole thing with it taking so long for the epic to get froyo bothers me, but for me there isn't a huge difference. Don't get me wrong there are some great improvements but I don't think it is as bad as when I was stuckon 1.6 on my hero and couldn't use certain apps because they required 2.1. As far as skinning their roms it is one way to distinguish their phones from the compatition. Honestly why should htc put out a tablet if they don't want to. Especially since it seems like that market is already well cornered by the others at the moment. Besides they might have something in R&D. Ether way all I care about is having a phone without major issues such as problems with gps or battery drain. I rather get bug fixes then upgrades in the os itself. I kind of don't care for EB13 because I am having issues with my data connection on wifi. I think what Samsung should have done was just realeased one version of the galaxy phone instead of having custom versions for each carrier.
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Congrats! :)
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
T-Mobile: http://www.examiner.com/gadgets-in-san-francisco/samsung-galaxy-s2-officially-headed-to-t-mobile
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
Just wanted to give everyone a heads up:

I word doc'ed and printed off this entire thread, so the posts and issues that have already been made will be the ones I review when I compile this whole beast into a list. Sorry if you didn't post yet, but 30 pages of size 8 font's worth of issues should be plenty ;)

You'll see it sometime tomorrow afternoon/evening...and I may ask the mods to have the thread cleaned up so we can have a "fresh" jumping off point. I don't know though its up to incisivekieth really its his OP ;)

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] jaaka78:
Looks like EB28 is the newest now:

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EB28.rdf
[Epic 4G General] jaaka78:
EB28

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EB28.rdf

It still says android 2.2, but who knows?
[Epic 4G General] treyxazn:
Lol we can't even get a stable 2.2 and it is almost march and now were expecting 2.3 in less than 6 months . . .right
[Epic 4G General] JOLTnPEST:
But wasn't 2.3 built for the galaxy S? i know GSM not CDMA but it should be easier then froyo
[Epic 4G General] Gersonian:
Yeah so this only means that if we get it it will still have the time without signal bug!
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
Yeah that just means we have to fight all this RIL b.s.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Watermoore, I see your issues with samsung, but I agree that HTC is overblown... a lot of hype for inferior hardware with better marketing (or any marketing in the evo vs. epic case)... HTC reminds me of Xbox division... their following is so devoted and rabid, they can put out any kind of POS hardware, and people will still buy it, making every excuse not to shell out a couple more bucks (in the beginning) for the better product. Not trying to perpetuate this VS. thing, but I figured if its still up here I may as well throw in my observations.... HTC lives on fanboyism (not necessarily you WM, just the majority), while Samsung relies on hardware junkies who look at specs and HOPE the support comes with them... but cant restrain themselves... must have best tech!!!! ;) Even after the Moment, a lot of us still looked at the Epic specs and were like, OK, its worth a try... they cant screw this up AGAIN.... and I still think the US carriers play a way bigger part in this than people would like to admit. Recent OTA, botched, but from Samsung site, much lower failure rate... yes theres a couple bugs, but there will be with everything with 6 month software timeframes... Oh and dont get me started on companies who artificially inflate demand by throttling supply... HTC.... and I bet sprint is in on it too, but look at the N1... same deal, and if thats NOT the case, they need to reinvest in production... the EVO out of stock a week ago....really??? BS.

As long as Samsung continues to put out vastly superior products hardware wise, and I have a pretty good idea that there will be good devs to fix any problems/use the device to its full potential, sorry, gonna buy one again... Is this really that new of an issue with phones??? Try boutique audio/video.... sell someone a 30k projector to tell them theres no replacement bulb a year later, as the company folded... thats fun... oh and sell em the next pimp one in the same visit.
[Epic 4G General] dmanwithnoname:
I'll believe it when I'm using it.
[Epic 4G General] noobnl:
http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EB28.rdf
[Epic 4G General] Darkk69:
It would be cool if they released it to us to beta test it but somebody said that EB13 is the official release so anything after that we won't get it. I hope the poster is wrong but anything is possible at this point.
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
Sprint is the true culprit sammy has been on the offensive for once and I believe they will get better. Samoled is too good to pass up.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Probably an updated 2.2 that fixes the data connectivty lost and apps2sd that some people had, which is why they pulled the update in the first place.
[Epic 4G General] ZenInsight:
2.2 fixes but not 2.3 ...right?
[Epic 4G General] Turbokat:
2.2 is sluggish. iOS is a lot more better. Hope they fix it in 2.3.
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
iOS is a lot more better? Obvious Troll has bad grammar.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
2.2 is the smoothest I have ever seen any device. I own an iPad. 2.2 is easily on par with the smoothness of iOS while accomplishing so much more.
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
Beat it troll! Go back to your under pass!
[Epic 4G General] Ranger093:
You have to pay the troll tole if you want to get into that boy's hole.
[Epic 4G General] abduljaffar:
I command thy troll to be thou gone! "!POOF!"
[Epic 4G General] WhiteWidows:
[ROM] XWJV1 - official 2.3.2 Gingerbread! Confirmed!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=974117
[Epic 4G General] ultra78721:
Gjeez that thread got 50+ pages in one day...WOW:eek:
[Epic 4G General] blspyro:
Before anybody gets a clever idea without knowing what to do with this.....dont do anything if it flashes at all your epic will probably have flaw after flaw and i can almost gaurantee that your keyboard wont work.Although it is good to see wait for the devs to do something with this.

PyRo
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
This isn't aimed at you. Just adding...

Rule #1: NEVER FLASH A ROM MADE FOR ANOTHER PHONE! Unless you want a pretty paperweight

Lol
[Epic 4G General] abduljaffar:
List of bugs please.
[Epic 4G General] abduljaffar:
Btw. Give it up to noobl. He was correct again on ginger while everyone doubt it.
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
++++++++1

HA!

...love that show

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] dsalman:
nice cant wait for our release, hopefully its soon
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
It says QUALCOMM ANDROID 2.2 right there in the eb28 thing...
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
That's exactly what I was just about to point out.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Edit i meant 2.1update-1 not 2.2

Near the bottom, it also says "Android 2.1-update1" twice, so we have no idea what this could be really. All guesses are speculation.

Sent from my always stock, froyo Epic
[Epic 4G General] akijikan:
Ain't nobody know nothin'.
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
2.1 update 1 is just a later version of froyo.
[Epic 4G General] noobnl:
everything is set into motion /teaser
[Epic 4G General] Jhiciano:
HMMMMM :cool:
[Epic 4G General] theandrewgordon:
explain this odd statement? everything is set into motion? sounds fun
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
noobnl always speaks in riddle, and his sig is misleading!
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
2.1 update-1 is eclair not froyo

Sent from my always stock, froyo Epic
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Yes, I meant 2.2 update 1. :x
[Epic 4G General] :
You mean 2.2.2? which is only available on Nexus One prior to them getting gingerbread? I believe every device that ever got Froyo was on 2.2.1?
[Epic 4G General] jedite7:
Nice. Hope it comes soon.
[Epic 4G General] Ex0d0s:
Still working on it

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EC05.rdf
[Epic 4G General] qbking77:
Once I get to a computer ill thank you for this. Hope it comes soon.
[Epic 4G General] Slovak65:
What is a .rdf file?
[Epic 4G General] stud_muffler:
Something like "Release Description File" - an xml file with spec data of the current build.

:cool:
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
Close. Resource Description Framework which pretty much contains what you said. lol But what it really contains is ALL OF OUR BROKEN HOPES AND DREAMS! :mad:
[Epic 4G General] phdeez:
WTF

Who cares if it does come soon or not? I'm sure Samsung will bork it up to the point where devs will need to step in and fix their ****-pile of a mess.

I really hope the Nexus S 4G will open new doors for our phone. I'd imagine 4G will be avail in CM builds then, and maybe even have some non-proprietary drivers!

Samsung Software is a joke.

Deliver 2.2 more than 6 months late, and then have to pull it after 2 days because your QA sucks? What the hell have you been doing all this time? Then you deliver a PR person to a slaughter (SamsungJohn)? Seriously? With that guy's failure of action, then vanishing, it would have been better to send no-one at all.

I'm very thankful for our devs! OC'd kernel, Camera fixes, etc... EB13 doesn't suck too bad, but you can only polish a turd so much...
[Epic 4G General] socos25:
I am not a Samsung supporter, more of an understander, but they really are in a catch 22, and you just stated it in your post. I believe the reason they had not released anything up to this point is because they knew it had issues. But the pressure was ramped up to a frenzy because of missed dates, psuedo promised dates, etc. . . so they finally released something, and now because of the problems they are bashed even more. (Maybe rightfully so, but they really are damned if they do, and damned if they don't)

I agree maybe they should higher better programmers, but really it seems that the Epic has a bunch of owners who want it their way right away.. Unfortunately this is not Burger King. I ran DK28 with it's issues for three months, I will run EB13 till the next great thing comes out. I still use my phone daily. Most of the major issues with EB13 have been fixed by our wonderful developer community, I expect that will continue. I'm not sure if other phones have these same problems or if it is just a Samsung thing, but I know that with anything this compicated there will always be issues.
[Epic 4G General] yanolito:
I'll wait

This is why I will wait, so far 2.1 is cool and hot!!! :D
[Epic 4G General] drizek:
Samsung just needs to release a stock gingerbread rom like the one on the Nexus S and literally everyone will stop complaining about everything.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
You listed sprint.com as a place to complain. May I suggest that we try to focus this sort of thing only on facebook or twitter. My reasoning is that Sprint's facebook and twitter accounts incur much less traffic and complaints than their regular support lines. It is about as effective to complain to technical support as it is to complain to a clerk at a brick and mortar store. It just doesn't work, those people don't have any hand in major decisions. Based on the effectiveness of the :neveragain campaign, I would say the social networking reps have more power and are easier to reach.
[Epic 4G General] zman519:
Hell ya!!! +99999999^9999999.99 on both post 1 and 2

Its some thing the tech news should really report on they (tech media) talk about spyware stelling info.

And now the dam telcom does it!

Sent from my ComBadge..