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[Windows Phone 7 General] oOp:
can you remember the windows phone 7 ad in tv? take your live in hands?

really, with windows phone 7 i feel back to the roots. enyoing the real life ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvsL9lpFgQs
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
hold that thought, I'm buying a new phone to update android....

its a conspiracy to sell more phones right ?

fail
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
Spot on on every single point.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JamesAllen:
Thanks

Couldn't agree more. Bought my Focus on December 27th so for me, I am waiting just a little over two months. I don't care how long they have been working on it, that is immaterial and pure speculation and who cares anyway. I would never trade my Focus in, I am enjoying it too much. The whole point is, for each of us, are we enjoying the phone or not. If not, do something about it and stop crying about your poor decision to purchase. There is nothing you can say that will convince those of us who like the phone to join you in your misery. Misery likes company and everytime I read one of those whiney comments I see someone trolling for company.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
For someone so bent on semantics, you should do yourself a favor and read the post you replied to:

Microsoft has been working on the update since before the platform launched (or rather, before the phones launched, after the platform RTM'd). Many people didn't really have a BIG issue with it, since they were "convinced" that Microsoft would blow Google Phone Manufacturers away with speedy updates. Remember, they were initially shooting for January, then February, them March - then pushed a week further into March...

I never said "we've been waiting," I simply stated how long they've been working on it. And I'm right, if you actually did some research you'd see that.

They've been working on it since after it RTM'd - September 1, 2010 ( http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...indows-phone-7-released-to-manufacturing.aspx ). That makes March 1... 6 months. Part of the reason why they were shooting for January at the beginning was because they started working on the damn update after the RTM. They thought they'd finish it by then.

If they had delivered the update in January like they were initially hinting, then we probably could have been looking at around a June-July Mango release, which is somewhat reasonable. September or further down the line is embarassing, becasue it opens them up to losing too many potential customers to WebOS, Back to Blackberry, to iOS, and to Android.

Yes, they are in it for the long haul, but cell phone contracts are 2 years (3 years in some places like Canada). Isn't that long, too? Most consumers don't just buy off-contract phones because one has a cuter interface than the other...

It'll be 6 months. You can try to play the semantics game all you want, but that's the fact. 6 months for NoDo. People were in an uproar about no Copy and Paste since months before WP7 RTM'd, so you're lucky I'm giving them some slack and saying "just" 6 months... They actually stated they were working on copy and paste before it RTM'd. I'm being nice.

Here's a comment on the [Official Microsoft WP7] Blog from September 1, 2010:

Ugh. Bye. Lol.

I rest my case.
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
find me an official MS statement that says that they planned on releasing it in january or february. you can't. becuase every deadline you've seen came from a third party who thought they knew, or who was just starting another rumour.

they only EVER said early 2011. March is still within the first 3 months of 2011, so they consider that early. fair enough, they should have said Q1 2011, but still, they haven't lied about anything. At CES in late january they said 60 to 90 days to allow for carriers to test. That gives them till April.

You rest your case, I rest mine.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Red Grenadine:
It really doesn't matter how long they've been working on it. In the very worst case, consumers with phones in their hands will have waited 4 months. You're telling me I'm focused on semantics? You technically can b*tch and moan we've been waiting on NoDo and copy and paste for over a year considering MS debuted WP7 last MWC.

4 months from phone in consumers' hand to first update, while not ideal, is not excessive.

What worries me the most is the fact some sources are saying this puppy was done in December/January and has been carrier delayed until now. That worries me.

In the end, if you hate the phone, switch platforms. You bought into a nascent, unproven but exciting platform and you're reaping the benefits and drawbacks. Deal with it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Deflection at work.

Doesn't matter.

The update won't come until 6 months after RTM, and people were complaining about the missing features since at last a month before RTM, more really.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Still trying too hard. No, I'm going by when the platform was RTM'd. RTM is when they said "it's finished, guys!!!" That's not unreasonable. What you're saying, however, is pretty damn retarded. You're stretching things way too far.

As to the bold, you obviously don't know me ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Red Grenadine:
We're obviously spinning in circles here. From the time you have had the phone in your hand, you will have waited 4 months for an update. Period. If you want to change the goalposts, fine. I won't deign to change your mind.

I don't really care to know you, I'd rather make do browsing threads without a constant stream of negativity coming from your username. Fine, you hate the platform, think MS is going too slow and WP7 is going to fail. We get it. But at this point your criticisms are quite tired.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Yep. I hate the platform, but I ordered an HD7 that'll be here Wednesday.

You're starting to sound like a clueless troll.

Dissenting opinions doesn't mean someone hates the platform, or is a fanboi of another platform.

Grow the hell up. We should all be past the 3rd grade.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JamesAllen:
RTM?

Who gives a crap about when software was released to manufacturing? The only thing that consumers care about or can reference is when the software was released to them. That means November 2010 for the US. This argument is pointless.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Red Grenadine:
Seriously. Someone needs to lock this and I need to put N8ter on some sort of ignore list to save my sanity and allow me to read threads in peace.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lqaddict:
There is an ignore list, just head over to your User CP.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Red Grenadine:
yep, done. thank you
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Speaking of which, how many have actually complained? None.

Were caught up in geek talk. The general public doesn't give a **** about updates, they don't know which version IOS is, what fruit name Android is, and I bet you they don't know what NoDo is.
[Windows Phone 7 General] BikerCVG:
I have been a long time WM user for many years and looked forward to WP7. I knew one of my major things not included out of the box was custom ringtones, but also knew that there are some folks out there smart enough to hack into fixing that (thanks Chevron7).

C/P is not a hot button to me but I see how it could be to others, but still should of been there at the start. Just seems to be one of the basics you should have. Personally I want a "My Docs" area to store files in (think of that file to want to forward and claim as your own :rolleyes: ) I just don’t want to keep the whole email to review a file 2 weeks from now.

M/S knows how to do updates in the PC world, most of which 99% of users have no idea it happens. In a former life I was a IT geek (ok still am)and know just how often they update things. I think MS rushed to bring WP7 to market to try and catch up with other OS, and JUST before the holidays did not hurt. I was a bit worried when M/S pulled the plug on that POS “KIN” but told myself that they are putting 100% behind WP7.

All this talk about just how long we have to wait for a update (3 or6 months) is just talk. I do think a small update often is better than a BIG update much less often. What I mean is if a small update came out everyone would talk about how cool this or that works and would give M/S a good spin. Right now all the talk is about what it does not do and that all BAD PR.

My biggest surprise is there is not a big leak at M/S with solid info like the PC world has.

I love my LG but have yet to find MY perfect phone… yet…

This is my 2 cents
[Windows Phone 7 General] rhory:
Going round in circles apart, MS has landed us with a brick in WP7, one that they seemed determined to tell us what mortar we can use, and only approved by them.

Dictatorship at its very worst, or should that be best.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mrksbrd:
Typical Microcrap product
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
R.O.F.L.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] rhory:
I have.....still waiting for a reply though..after about 7 weeks.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
I find it hard to wait also. But I believe when the first update gets here we will all be happy campers. Especially if they fix the bugs and give us some more themes.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
What if the update is just what we know and nothing else (C&P, improved apps speed, improved marketplace search)?

I mean, AFAIK they have never publicly talked about fixing bugs in this particular update so that could happen. The reactions will be priceless :rolleyes:.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Anything is possible. But I have a feeling...no crystal ball...the update will deal with quite a bit. They've had 4 months to work on it. I think, if they don't provide plenty, they will effectively break the will of patient users. I don't think they want that.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Well some international love and fixed bugs will be great as well!

I would like to have the phonenumbers i add be formatted correctly like we do in my country and not some weird US formatting for our not like that formatted numbers, because otherwise the youtube plugin does not work :D

Thats just odd stuff, it seems like these guys have not tested their phones at all in a different country on a different language and regional setting. I want to call somebody without having to add my country code, like every phone can :) but I know they will have this fixed in this update, thats why its well worth it for us non americans.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
Thank you, at least this forum has a few users with some sort of brain power and common sense.

Apple creates excuses, not bug fixes. They also release 'patches' to monumental, disastrous bugs, such as their initial phone bug on the first release, but when the antenna bug came around, it wasn't their fault. When the proximity sensor came up, it wasn't a problem. Apple doesn't release bug fixes, it releases damage control... Most of the bugs they 'fix' destroy the user experience.

As for Android... really? Are you honestly speaking of Android when Cliq users are still pre-2.0? When Galaxy users, USERS not techies like us, are complaining that they can't even use most features they were promised with an update? Google has put dates and has missed them by over a year... Microsoft set a timeframe and is still within it.

People complain because Microsoft hasn't lived up to dates that blog sites have set for them... its honestly ridiculous.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rhory:
MS put a beta system out under the guise of an operating system, now if you can you show me that WP7 is an out of the box OS with full functionality, I am all yours, WP7 is a crock, and not a very good one, most 6.5 roms are better and at least allow functionality to be used.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
You guys are pathetic man. Why is it a beta? Because it doesn't contain the features/functionaliy you require it to? There is NO OS out there with full functionality. Hey, guess what, your precious 6.5 was lacking features that iOS and Android have, guess it was a beta too then, huh? It's a full release, it's 1.0 software, not a 10 year old, sorry excuse for a modern OS that 6.5 is. I was as big of an advocate for 6.5 as can be, but facts are facts man, it wasn't "functional" because it wouldn't stay stable enough to use the functions...
[Windows Phone 7 General] JamesAllen:
Agreed

I have to agree. I was a 6.5.x fan, flashing many chefs ROMs. We had to flash new ROMs in order to get the darn thing to be stable and work the way we wanted it to. I never realized how poor 6.5.x was until I had used WP7 for a month. Sorry, but even if MS comes out with no new updates, I will never go back to 6.5.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Here we go again... which one of those do you actually consider truthful?

Go and look at IOS patches and updates, they HAVE done them. Several of them. Fact.

You think they are excuses fine. Ok. Dandy.

Android. I said Google phones receive updates. Fact. When have they been a year late? Google phones, not Motorola , not Samsung, but Google phones. Then I said top Android phones receive updates, perfect example HTC updates their top phones.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
You speak as though Apple corrects every one of its bugs, it doesn't. It actually fixes a good deal of them on the big updates... The smaller, more frequent updates are to fix bugs which destroy the user experience, as I said, but you're obviously illiterate as you've proven throughout your variety of posts. It isn't as though Apple comes out and says "hey, vetvito says his iPhone isn't to his liking, so lets update it every two weeks," they update situations like the proximity sensor, or the homescreen button not functioning. You're also comparing five years of updates to 4 months on the market. In Apple's first four months they updated severe bugs, none of which exist on WP7.

As for Google phones, didn't they only make ONE phone? The original Nexus? Because the Nexus S is a Samsung phone. Microsoft also doesn't make phones, so your argument is pointless. OEM updates are Phone updates, to say that because HTC and Motorola phones don't get updated, it doesn't reflect on Google is retarded. Yet you jump on Microsoft for OEMs not updating? Microsoft is trying to avoid fragmentation which is why they are pushing out unified updates... Not having one phone running 1.5, another 4 running 1.6, 9 running 2.0...etc.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
Did I miss something recently? Since when did this change of heart come about? Any chance you like Nokia?
[Windows Phone 7 General] rhory:
It's a Beta because that is what it is ...simples. We Scots like value for money not a crock cobbled together to make Bill more dollars. Still as you are easily pleased stick with it....still aint got my reply from MS as to why they loaded a brick on me anyway, yours is obviously a gold brick...:D:rolleyes:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jianC:
Is it possible to keep Livewallpaper in memory (I know, battery drain)? I have the Galactic Core live wallpaper and there is 20 second lag every time I turn off screen and turn it back on. It runs fine though without lag.

Edit: I mean it takes 20 seconds before the live wallpaper displays. It runs without any graphical lag, however (sorry for confusing explanation).
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raydar670:
It might be possible with a swap partition/file but the G1 really isn't meant for live wallpapers.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zdravkobg:
So, I am going to flash CM7 on my phoen pretty soon, but I will really miss the nice camera app from stock and the contact integration system (facebook, skype, +others). Is there any way that these features can be somehow used in CM7? I mean, is there some possibility for the CM mod to eventually use these features as default?

also, side note question, but, is Iced Glacier pretty much a Sense ROM?

thanks!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neidlinger:
I/G is a sense ROM. Which uses the Sense Framework. Cyanogen is a AOSP ROM it is impossible for Sense framework .apk (programs) to work on AOSP ROMs. so to answer your question if you want the camera use I/G.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] option94:
until htc open sources sense, which they wont do, we will never be able to get sense based apps to run without the sense framework.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zdravkobg:
Thanks guys. Do you know of any AOSP based apps which look nicer than the default camera, and are as fast?

also, i just thought of this, does CM7 support "swype" typing?

and does iced glacier make the phone run faster/longer than sense, just like CM?

sorry for all these questions in the same thread, but they are somewhat related
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] option94:
I dont have all of the answers you're looking for, but Iced Glacier should have better battery life than stock, and it should perform much better as well.

Swype is supported on cm7. the beta is still open. check out beta.swype.com
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brucemcl:
T-Mobile has open sourced their theming interface to the myTouch 4G.

https://github.com/tmobile

They say it will be rolled into CM7. I don't know if this will be enough to run the stock Camera app and Contacts app.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] option94:
its already in cm7, but thats not whats needed for the sense features. It literally needs the sense frameworks.
[Droid X General] mailman1175:
I can't watch video (shot with the phone) with the video player included with Liberty 1.5. I'd post in the development forum, but...

Anyway, tap Videos, tap a .3gp video shot with the phone, and all I get is, "Sorry, this video cannot be played." Any ideas?
[Droid X General] dwray:
I noticed this issue too when I first installed. The phone also won't play mp4 videos with Liberty 1.5. I ended up installing VitalPlayer from the market, and everything plays fine now.
[Droid X General] mailman1175:
Vital Player won't play them, either. Something about "software codec not moving".

Installing third-party software really isn't a fix for a core function that doesn't work, anyway. Think I'm just going to flash back to Liberty 1.0. It was fully functional, and battery life on 1.5 isn't as good.
[Droid X General] zehkaiser:
I came from the .340 SBF and have 0 problems. Maybe you should SBF and reinstall?
[Droid X General] gimlet72:
I have been using rock player without issues
[Droid X General] mailman1175:
I came from the maderstcok 340... I had no issue with Liberty 1.0. Logic tells me, then, that it's a ROM issue.
[Droid X General] mailman1175:
Negative. No worky. Sounds like I either need to go back and re-flash 1.0 or 1.5

I guess the good news is that I'm getting my post count up here so I can post in the developers forum where I might get a little more traction.
[Droid X General] Ben's:
Do the maderstock340 install again and this time, download Liberty over a wifi connection. Make sure you have wiped data at least twice and have cleared your cache at least twice. Since you are starting fresh, I would delete every single file off your SD Card except the maderstock340, unless - you downloaded maderstock from your phone.

When I need a full reset, I tend to use a PC so I can copy my files faster and download my files properly. Make sure your maderstock file size matches the number listed on the maderstock thread, clear out your SD Card completely (except files you want to keep which you can transfer back later), download maderstock via PC and then place it on the root of your SD Card. Download your bootstrap and boot into it and flash the maderstock file. Now, since it's a fresh .340 slate and clean SD Card, download Liberty over WiFi. Hopefully starting as clean as can be will solve your issue.
[Droid X General] mailman1175:
The first time I downloaded maderstcok to my Mac, I checked the md5sum before transferring it to the phone's root. So I'm positive it's correct. I download all my files over wifi (my cell connection at home is for poo). I'm not 100% sure I ran a checksum on the Liberty 1.5 download… but it's my habit to do so.

I have ~16GB of data on my SD card. It is unwieldy, to say the least, to remove all of that data, not to mention that it defeats the purpose of backing up to the SD card.

At any rate, I did a full factory reset, flashed maderstcok, re-rooted, bootstrapped, and flashed Liberty 1.5. BEFORE I restored any of my apps/settings from Titanium Backup, I tried to use the Video player. It still did not work.

I have just re-flashed Liberty 1.0 (after a single wipe of cache/data). The video player doesn't work there, either, but here's the weird deal: Not only does the video player still not work, but when Lib1.0 started the first time after a fresh install, it loaded the wallpaper I've been using (an image I'd loaded on the SD card).

So, that suggests to me that ClockworkMod's Bootstrap Recovery isn't completely wiping cache/data. I'm downloading a fresh Liberty 1.5 .zip to the Mac, after which I'll md5sum it, transfer it to the phone. I'm doing the double-wipe of both cache and data, as you suggested, then running through the process again (maderstcok -> fresh Liberty 1.5).

If it doesn't work, at the very least this is getting my post count up so I can post in the Liberty 1.5 thread where maybe kejar and the other developers will notice this as a bug. :)

Edited to add:

I checked the md5 sum on the Liberty 1.5 .zip I was using and it's clean.
[Droid X General] mailman1175:
A fresh install of a check-summed Liberty 1.5 on top of a freshly flashed and check-summed maderstcok still fails to play the video.

Since the Liberty 1.0 thread has no checksum listed for the .zip file, there's no way to confirm a clean download…
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevindiddy:
i recently was getting my HTC hero cdma back to ruu 1.5 and in the middle of the installation process my power goes out and now my phone is stuck in the black screen dosent boot. also when i plugg it in it goes to the black with white htc logo leters and then when i unplugg it it shows this

HERO XC

HBOOT-1.41 0000 (hero20000)

MICROP-01101

touch panel-syn0104

radio-1.04.01.09.21

Sep 1 2009, 19 18 45

RUU <------- that comes up in orange highlight
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PMGRANDS:
Try the fastboot method... I never did it myself but, I heard it does Work!
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andythegreenguy:
Did you try re-running the RUU? If not, try it... might work.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] runngwlf:
Re run the RUU, if it boots to that it should still work. If that doesnt work, use the fastboot method (hold down the vol down and the power button until it boots to the white screen)
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
Its almost humorous at how many negative threads there are, or how many threads start out positive and you have people come in and bring them down, I have never seen a forum this pissed off EVER, BUT I can say that we as Sprint customers are getting a little tired of the **** we are dealing with, I like many of you just want CTIA to come, I mean the Echo is cool and all but not for me. Also people are ripping on the new Pre 3, I for one am interested, so what if it has 1 core.... SERIOUSLY it may just be me but isn't functionality override the e-boner you get lol?

That said, I will now hide behind my stone wall.:p
[EVO 4G General] looneylu:
Not going to lie... I love Android, and love my Evo... but the Pre 3 and a TouchPad make for a killer combo... I liked their presentation today.... HP is doing something right, and that is the fact that they are releasing a WiFi only version before their other variants.

As far as the negativity going on in XDA, don't sweat it. There are trolls everywhere online. Best to simply ignore, or if you can't, ask Shift to give out the "thunderous back hand" of his!!! :p