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[EVO 4G General] Zorachus:
Sprint better have some bigger news than this, or I will be defectiing to Verizon. I want to hear one or more of the following;

- Yes there will be a EVO 2 this Summer, details to come later, but confirming the phone is in the works.

- Revised better networks or something to do with WiMax and LTE.

- New plan options/pricing changes for the better.

- Nexus-S first CDMA version.

- Apple will allow us to sell the next iPhone later this year.

If it has not one of the above mentioned, then I am bailing this Summer.
[EVO 4G General] matt2053:
Well its hard to say if you don't know the screen dimensions. If the screens are 16:9 it would be 5.05 inches. But all this assumes they have the ability to meld into one larger screen which I highly doubt.

Pythagorean theorum FTW.
[EVO 4G General] JasonK75:
I sure hope it isn't this! This is not what I'm looking for, nor do I think it deserves a big announcement. My opinion, it is a stupid idea, but that is just me.

I hope it is about the network, I'm so sick of the slow 3G speed!!
[EVO 4G General] TorxT3D:
i could go for a dual screen phone tablet, but the screens need to be bigger than 4.5", coupled with a tegra or dual core, and thin bezels.

otherwise, count me out.
[EVO 4G General] cor4twenty:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Kyoc...ints-industry-first-event-later-today_id16493

i think everybody's still hoping for something better lol
[EVO 4G General] jkinnison90:
What a disappointment. Figured it would be something lame.
[EVO 4G General] ttieder:
The phon looks like a gay ass ds or something
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
You haven't even seen a picture or anything about it...take your ignorance somewhere else.
[EVO 4G General] doh_tee:
David Blaine is there for one reason: To create the illusion that Sprint's stock doesn't crash into the ground after announcing that horrid piece of darn near useless hardware.
[EVO 4G General] jobryan26:
Before you call someone else "ignorant"...
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
My god you are just as bad that's a fujitsu prototype that has already been said...read the thread people.

Need more proof here:

http://ani-culture.net/2010/10/fujitsus-dual-screen-phone/
[EVO 4G General] m4rk0358:
It's funny how so many of you are claiming that you will jump ship from Sprint because of this announcement. Sprint is the only provider carrying the EVO, arguably the best smart phone on the market to this day, and has been very good about getting the EVO as up to date as possible (see: turnaround time for Froyo).

So no EVO 2 today and people are going to leave? Why? Sprint still has the best rates out there and I'm 99% sure when the EVO 2 is ready to showcase that Sprint will ultimately be a carrier for it.
[EVO 4G General] ghodzilla5150:
I knew you or Dirty Sanchez would be in here to defend your masters sooner or later.
[EVO 4G General] jobryan26:
I wasn't meaning to imply that "this was the phone", but that it is based upon the same premise of having dual-screens which doesn't matter how you place them it is completely stupid... this is a cellphone, not a tablet, not a laptop.. there is next to no reason under the moon to justify having this other the point of saying "I have two screens" especially if they are only 3.5".
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
I can just imagine someone talking on the device above. Wonder if you dial with it opened or closed..
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
I agree with this.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
You're cute. I like the way you say my name, not only does it show insecurity and ignorance, but it points out how DUMB of a human being you are for staying and paying for a carrier you despise.
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
You haven't left and paid your etf yet oh boy just when I thought this board was getting better...you have some serious issues if you follow someone around a message board calling them out...and I'm not defending sprint. Where do I defend them in that statement? Please tell me I would love to know.get a clue man his comment was stupid and deserved what I said. Honestly if you hate sprint that much.leave simple as that.
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
I agree completely. While I will be disappointed if they don't unveil the EVO's successor today, I have till June to make any decisions, giving Sprint plenty of time to announce their next flagship device. With the success of the EVO, there is no way in hell they won't release an EVO2 or whatever other name they come up with. There will be another 4.3", slate form, HTC device coming to sprint, and when it does, you can bet I'll grab it.
[EVO 4G General] TorxT3D:
hinges are so pre-2004

can we leave hinge design in the past?? lets move forward please.

clamshells, sliding keyboards, anything mechanical WILL break far faster than the rest of the phone. i cant believe sprint or anyone would consider such a design on a device thats going to be highly used.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
Imagine pulling that out in a business meeting. You'll be the laughing stock of the entire company!

Any of you remember the old kyocera candy bar phone that had flashing blue led's when a call came in... straight out of the electronic's section at toys'r'us.
[EVO 4G General] nabbed:
The aspect ratio is not important, as long as it's the same for both screens.

The overall surface area of 2 x 3.5" diagonal screens is the surface area of a single 3.5" x 2^0.5 = 4.95" diagonal screen.
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
3.5 + 3.5 = 4.95

dur hur durrududududr
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
It's the diagonal length, the math is not simply 3.5 + 3.5.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
DS, I think you need to clarify and define what diagonal dimensions are :D
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
I just realized what I wrote... hah you'll have to excuse me it's been a looooonnnggg weekend
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
yea, is that where the lines are up and down? oh so i multiply 3.5 x 3.5? man thats a lot of pixels. Hopefully its retina too.

****, forgot my troll tags, again.
[EVO 4G General] sidepart:
No, I'm crapping on it immediately. There had better be something worth my time from Android coming out of this little get together. A DUAL VIEW phone is right up there with computer cases that look like effed up dragon faces with flashy lights on them. Why not hook a retarded keyboard and mouse up to it and it can be my little dual 3.5" workstation for CAD work and movie watching?! :)

One does not simply ADD numbers together in Mordor!
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
this is just an image made up by engadget...not an actual representation...Once again, i said in my other thread the Sprint tech told me a 4g android phone, all who doubted me days ago, i laugh, have a good one with the drama, im surprised xhausx or whatever his name hasn't hijacked this thread to bleed about how SBC is dangerous...sorry to be blunt people but i speak the truth
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
when is this announcement anyways? its already mid day.
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
later tonight in New York
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
6PM Est time
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
That's not a mock up at all, that's actually a Fujitsu prototype.
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
One of those rare posts that made me actually laugh out loud. I'm surprised you didn't try to hide this yet.
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
yes im sorry i should have worded it different...

Image courtesy of Engadget. Not indicative of the Kyocera Echo's design :)
[EVO 4G General] mclife:
anyone know if there is any live web-cast for it, or are we relegated to blogs?
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Spri...today-live-coverage-starts-at-6pm-EST_id16505
[EVO 4G General] mclife:
link from Sprint's website talking about the phone... 4.7 inches diagonal:

http://search.sprint.com/inquiraapp/ui.jsp?user.site=Global+Header&question_box=echo
[EVO 4G General] jobryan26:
4.7 "combined". Also Android Central opened a Sprint Kyocera Echo forum a short bit ago.

http://forum.androidcentral.com/sprint-kyocera-echo/
[EVO 4G General] sidepart:
I was just about to submit this to Engadget but it looks like it already has been.

Funny thing though is that the person that tipped it in is also named "Dave G." ... perhaps I'll send the article to all of my friends and not correct them when they mistakenly think I submitted the tip.

Still though, hate to be a Debbie Downer, I was really hoping it would be something else. That 3D phone might've been cool. ****...how about the Optimus 2x. Sure, maybe it's not the FIRST dual core phone...but it could be the first phone to eat thunder and crap lightning! I'd love to see David Blaine do that! It'd be hilarious, and it'd only cost him a bottle of Ex-Lax and his dignity.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
I don't see your logic there.

I think the AR is indeed important, and in general seems to be 1.66 for the majority of these devices.

With that in mind, the area of a single 3.5" screen is then 5.4", so for both screens, it's 10.8"

For those that care how this was computed, keep reading.

AR: 1.66 (800 x 480 pixels)

X= shorter side

1.66X= longer side

Z = diagonal length

Z= ((X^2 + (1.66X)^2)^.5

So 3.5" = ((X^2 + (1.66X)^2)^.5, resulting in X = 1.80" for shorter side, and 3" for the longer side. The rest is 5th grade math.
[EVO 4G General] mclife:
Combined was implied. Anyone reading the thread or the link would know what I was talking about... but thanks for clearing it up for everyone! :)
[EVO 4G General] DrRyder:
Nice job, OP. You gave us a link to a Wall Street Journal article that we can't read fully unless we have a subscription for $140/year.
[EVO 4G General] jobryan26:
Taking a Prozac should have been a requirement before logging onto xda today. lol I didn't post it implying anything toward you... when I said it was "4.7 combined"... I was more or less thinking thru my keyboard. :)

continuing my thought... So unless you open both screens, what the heck are you going to do with only one 2.35" screen? Just makes NO sense to me.
[EVO 4G General] mclife:
Prozac taken... I agree though. The gap is gonna kill it. One day, when flexible screens are ready for prime time, this won't be a problem. The individual screens won't be 2.35" each, or half of 4.7". The rumor is 3.5" each, which sounds about right to get 4.7" if they are stacked the long way.

My sister had a Kyocera phone once. It was a POS. Ready for lots of plastic.
[EVO 4G General] nabbed:
Maybe I didn't explain myself right.

The area of 2 x 3.5" diagonal screens is equivalent to having a single 4.95" diagonal screen at the same AR.

Now, if those 3.5" screens were the proper aspect ratio, like the EVO's, then the combined surface area real estate would be equivalent to having an oversized EVO at 4.95" diagonal. Quite a bit larger than the EVO itself at 4.3".

In your own example.
S = 2 x 5.4" squared = 10.8" squared.

S = X x Y = 1.66 X^2
X = sqrt (S /1.66) = sqrt(10.8" squared/1.66) = 2.55"

Z= sqrt ((X^2 + (1.66X)^2) = sqrt ((2.55"^2 + (1.66 x 2.55")^2) = 4.95"

I'm hoping that those 3.5" screens are actually not 1.66:1 screens, but rather something smaller like 1.66/2 : 1. So when the second screen is combined with the first, together they create that large (previously mentioned) 4.7" screen with 1.66:1 AR. If would be like folding an oversized EVO on itself to pocket it easier.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
We'll have to wait and see how big the "gap" is.
[EVO 4G General] jobryan26:
lol it's all good. Yeah that's a good point. Depending on the ratio (which the other guys on here seems to be doing a pretty good job working on those numbers) still as we both agree... is just ridiculously small compared to today's technology. Maybe 3.5" wouldn't be too small while on a bus traveling you are watching a movie on one screen and checking your emails on the other...
[EVO 4G General] nabbed:
I just did a quick calculation for this.

It would have to be two screens at 2.42 x 2.02", with a diagonal dimension of 3.15".

They would stack together to give 2.42 x 4.04", with a diagonal dimension of 4.7".
[EVO 4G General] 4redstars:
I can read it just fine without a subscription.
[EVO 4G General] r916:
Crazy, the guy I bought my Evo from (about a month ago) told me it would be a dual screen phone coming out and it actually was/is.
[EVO 4G General] Shushunmire:
I won't be able to look another AT&T user in the eye after today if this is their big announcement...

"So what carrier are you on?"

*cough* Sp-Sprint*cough cough*

"Isn't that the one with the retarde..."

"IT WAS A BAD JOKE THAT GOT OUT OF HAND. THAT IS ALL. Everyone was hopped up on drugs and booze, and no one sobered up enough to stop this travesty before we announced it..."
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Do you know how popular a dual-screen phone will be to the average consumer? Especially if executed correctly. Video chat on one screen while texting on the other. Watch tv on one screen while emailing on the other. Combine both screens for an even bigger movie experience

Plus why do so many people care about what others think? Whatever happened to individuality?
[EVO 4G General] foueddyf:
That dual screen phone is just so much fail.

Even David Blayne won't save Sprint from this atrocity.

Hopefully they get some dual core phones (evo 2) by this June or else bye Sprint I'm afraid :(
[EVO 4G General] ghodzilla5150:
Dance Puppets, Dance:)
[EVO 4G General] Cole28:
Another good point is if devs used it right they could probably put the touch controls for games on the other screen.
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
Dancing puppets would likely be less of a letdown than tonight's announcement.
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
Isn't there enough *****ing about "android is fragmented" to not have two versions of software based on number of screens?
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Pay idiot, pay. After all, you do continue to pay for your service that you so openly hate.
[EVO 4G General] ghodzilla5150:
Please, this thing will be a NIGHTMARE because the Hinge will break in due time. Then Sprint will say it's a hardware issue and send you to the maker of the phone for repair. Sprint was doing this BS with the Power Button Crack AND Dust Under Screen. Sprint will take NO RESPONSIBILITY whatsoever when the hinge starts to give way (it won't take long either). Man your Masters have you trained well. An excuse for everything.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
I think you're just mad my monthly Sprint bill is $0.00. It's okay. Anything else you need to get off your breasts? I mean chest?
[EVO 4G General] Cole28:
I'm pretty sure they could just add it into existing games just by adding an option in the menu to use 2 screens. I doubt they would have to make a special version just for dual screens .Plus people are going to ***** about android fragmentation no matter what manufactures do.
[EVO 4G General] .psd:
Could have potential if they'd designed it as a two pieces 4.3, no edges on 2/4 connecting sides of each so you could connect them landscape OR portrait without a thick hardware divide, and portion the hardware between the two in such a way that the overall thickness when layered one on top of the other (to make it look like a one-piece phone and fit in your pocket) was minimized.

Instead they probably do what I've learned most companies do: everything WRONG.
[EVO 4G General] 4redstars:
it's going to have to have a crazy closing mechanism to keep only one screen in the open and one closed off...can't have a screen on each side...would be a scratch nightmare.
[EVO 4G General] ghodzilla5150:
You're awesome Brewster. I hope to one day live the life you have. I mean you gets Free Cellular service. That can't evar be topped. I only get Free High Speed Internet from my job because I have to VPN in from time to time, BUT that's nothing compared to Free Cellular from the 3rd best (arguably) Cell Company out there. Congrats on your awesome life:D
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Aww... cute attempt. I'm sure you would love to live my life, you know, HAPPY.

You must be mentally challenged since you continue to shell out your dollars for this 3rd rated (arguably) service. Either that or your job is horrible and you can't afford to switch to Verizon or AT&T.

I'm done with you, don't need another thread closed.
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
I normally stay out of the pissing matches...but are you really playing "my **** is bigger" when you each are comparing sub $100/month perks? Looks like DS got under your skin a little more than you want to admit.

Someone shows up with a company car and you are both screwed.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
I got a company car :)
[EVO 4G General] jkinnison90:
Two displays to suck the battery dry, awesome.
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
That would be me. It's an Aston Martin. Looks kinda weird cuz it's got a ladder rack on it but whatevs.
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
Uh oh....free internet won't stand a chance in the **** battle now. :eek:
[EVO 4G General] elegantai:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjZLY9OvkZA
[EVO 4G General] ghodzilla5150:
Don't need a company car. I have my own. I also have other perks because I am a Disabled Vet;) I probably get more Tax Free money per month than you make at your awesome job. I am an IT Manager that takes care of 3 facilities (2 in Sunny So. Cal and 1 in Vancouver, Canada). I go to Canada twice a year for FREE. Have you ever been to Whistler Ski Resort. Very beautiful place.
[EVO 4G General] Cole28:
Jesus who cares who has what. That's not what this thread is about.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Yeah... seriously... I just got to him a little and now he can't stop. But, back on topic. The event wont be live streamed according to Sprints Twitter :(
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
Thanks for that :)
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
Yea = kyocera....no thanks.
[EVO 4G General] ghodzilla5150:
Thanks Dude. I shredded my Rt. Knee. It's pretty bad. VA has a program called Unemployable that I am thinking of going into. If you have issues at your job because of your Service connected disability (I am on so much pain meds) it's hard to do my job, they will pay you to stop working and get the proper care. Sorry to get off topic.

Dirty - Truce. You are a Steeler fan and we are both in a bad mood today:(
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Truce accepted.
[EVO 4G General] mbaseball3:
Seems like more of a crazy concept than anything. 2 screens to break now? Lol. Or is that the idea; crack your screen. Oh don't worry, you still have the other! Lol

Sent from the Evo 4G
[EVO 4G General] ghodzilla5150:
Good to hear. Hopefully we get some good news tonite. I really want to hear about an EVO 2 as the EVO is the best phone I have ever had.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Hopefully

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[EVO 4G General] mbaseball3:
Maybe the evo 2 is the HTC arrive?

Sent from the Evo 4G
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
man i hope not... i dont want a windows phone.
[EVO 4G General] mbaseball3:
Oh its windows?! Ewww yeah nvm!!! Hurl!

Sent from the Evo 4G
[EVO 4G General] ghodzilla5150:
I thought the EVO 2 was codnamed Sabor. Fingers Crossed
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Just got my CR-48 Chrome notebook ... Sprint, you're not going to ruin my day!
[EVO 4G General] dezel29:
Kyocera it is
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
And theres the wack kyocera phone. Damn Sprint... you really mucked this one up.
[EVO 4G General] mekeke:
I knew it would be the retarded offspring of a phone and a Nintendo DS. :p
[EVO 4G General] Brutus2TheMax:
Thing is fugly.
[EVO 4G General] mbaseball3:
No chit! It is just a concept. It looks fugly as hell. Bulky much!?

Sent from the Evo 4G
[EVO 4G General] Brutus2TheMax:
Looking at this, 3D LG phone looked wayyyyyyyyyyy better.
[EVO 4G General] mbaseball3:
Better be quad core

Sent from the Evo 4G
[EVO 4G General] Brutus2TheMax:
Even if it is I'm not getting it.
[EVO 4G General] freeza:
nooooooooooooo :( HOPES WERE SO HIGH.
[EVO 4G General] mbaseball3:
Quad core is only thing that'd give it hope. Just read its 4.7 inches combined. Barely bigger than evo. How many times can we say fail

Sent from the Evo 4G
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
Wow that thing is huge. That's definitely not going to fit in any pockets.
[EVO 4G General] Cole28:
They went from the Evo to that god awful thing?
[EVO 4G General] 00_MACKIE_00:
yeah and kyocera fixes stuff almost as fast as Samsung :0

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G on the Now Network™ from Sprint®
[EVO 4G General] jkinnison90:
Figures.. a dual core screen? Wow.
[EVO 4G General] freeza:
Bet it has no AMOLED OR Super LCD screen, or resolution above 480x800. This thing is beyond a fail.

This is what I've been waiting all year for?
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
This pretty much solidifies my switch to Verizon to get the Thunderbolt. Oh well Sprint, its been real.
[EVO 4G General] r916:
Might be kind of cool, I might snag one just to try it out, don't dog it, what if it's a hardware beast. At least it's on 2.2 and not 2.1 lol even though it should have had 2.3.

Edit- it better have a really good battery for having 2 screens.

edit2- it might be cool using google books or kindle in portrait mode.
[EVO 4G General] buck1623:
hahaha 3g only...
[EVO 4G General] ghodzilla5150:
WOW, really unimpressive:mad: The battery life is going to horrendous. Plus now you will have to deal with Hinge issues galore. This thing is an abomination. So many of these are going to fixed because the hinge has broken or cracked. The less mechanical pieces the better
[EVO 4G General] BrianBaker:
its not a hardware beast..its got a 1Ghz snap Dragon,5MP Camera,dual lcd displays,not even amoled
[EVO 4G General] jkinnison90:
So how does this exactly make the impossible possible I wonder? Seems like its going to be a mess if only 7 stock apps work on it so far >.>
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
I'm really interested in this...more like intrigued.
[EVO 4G General] Brutus2TheMax:
Calm down guys... They have to warm up with something. Next up EVO2. Hopefully......
[EVO 4G General] r916:
what version of the snap dragon?

ram? rom? mp doesn't matter if the camera quality is good, the iphone is what a 5mp? and it takes pretty damn good pics/videos.

im sure it has some decent specs, it can do two different things on each screen.
[EVO 4G General] buck1623:
even the keyboard is ugly.. get this **** outta here..
[EVO 4G General] Brutus2TheMax:
http://now.sprint.com/echo/?id16=echo&INTCID=MA:020711:Echo

Sprints updated page on it.
[EVO 4G General] BrianBaker:
This thing is going to be a flop,right next to the Kin in the pile O Shame!
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Haters can hate.

I'm just glad it isn't a tablet, definitely not someting I'm going to be interested in.. but it is different. I can see how watching youtube on one screen while browsing the web on another can be useful.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
The "industry first" specs posted on CNET.

Damn, everyone else moved forward and Sprint went in REVERSE with this phone.
[EVO 4G General] jkinnison90:
2nd gen snap. So the same as the Evo shift, desire hd, g2 and desire z.
[EVO 4G General] buck1623:
hhahah good luck trying that **** out... **** doesnt even have a front faced camera...
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
Doubt it, this is gonna be the only thing they announce.
[EVO 4G General] r916:
Yeah I think it's kind of nifty, well at least the concept of it.

It would be cool for games too.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Battery is 5 hours of talk time ROFL... only 1350 mah.
[EVO 4G General] Cole28:
Personally if I'm watching youtube I doubt I'm going to be surfing the web at the same time.....
[EVO 4G General] r916:
Well they include an extra battery with every phone that's pretty cool.

Extra battery can be used as a battery pack too.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
And theyre including an EXTRA battery with every phone so you already know the battery life on it is going to be pure ****.
[EVO 4G General] mbaseball3:
Until the power usage is sorted out, all new devices shoulda made this standard. So I gotta say good job on this part.

Sent from the Evo 4G
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
That's you.

Personally, I have never..not even once, used my FFc on my EVO. Every feature isn't going to be for everyone.

I can definitely see myself using it to text while surfing the web or something if I were using it.