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[Off-topic] iynfynity:
never called you a hater. But you said he can't play D and jumpshots, and where did you based that? I can tell you that he has improved his jumpshots. Where did I based that? it's based on his stats, he made 120+ 3 pointers compared to 30+ from the past. (not exactly know the numbers but I'm sure it's close to that.)

You're right when you said you're liking the discussion as long as it's not taken personally, well I'm feeling the same way.
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
I would go with D. Howard because if you take him off of the Magic and replace him with let's say Noah and you have a 30 win team on it's way to the Lottery. Take Rose off of the Bulls and replace him with Jameer Nelson they still go to the playoffs. No doubt Rose is an improving player, and his numbers this year is in elite company, but his defense is overrated IMO, when someone blows past him he has Boozer and Noah to bail him out. As for his jumpshot while improved, I'll still let him take it and take my chances.
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
I did, and that call on Melo was ridiculous also..
[Off-topic] Nsandhu23:
Yea that game looked rigged. Bad call on Melo and then the trip. Boston is a dirty team.

From my Gingerbread Hero.
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Can we just end the Heat-Sixers series at three? Nothing to see here...
[Off-topic] iynfynity:
lol wonder if they'll win a single game.
[Off-topic] Nsandhu23:
I doubt it. I image the only way th pull out a win is by a game winner, but I don't see a game coming that close anyway.

From my Gingerbread Hero.
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
How are you going to say that?

Blows my mind about the Bosh comments throughout the year ... dude is capable and people ride him like he is some ***** ass mother. Compared to the other two he might not be the biggest factor ... but he still is a cornerstone for this team. They may not need him every night but when they need him ... they'll need him. And the playoffs are that time. No wonder people questioning your basketball knowledge. It was trendy for a second to hate on Bosh ... but he can be big.

I'd rather have Chris Bosh on the Bulls than Boozer. Boozer is so ****ing frustrating with his constant bull**** fouls. All year he be giving up bull****, getting called for only HALF his pushes in the back. Not to mention just general decision making. He is such a poor defender and off the ball defender it's scary.

Bulls may not look terrible so far this post season ... but they have been pretty poor as a whole. As a lifelong Bulls fan .. I'm not happy. I'm nervous.

As for Bosh ... dude has had a respectable year. I know it was 'hot' to hate on him for a while but dude is going to be a big part of their run. Should they make one.

Bosh was a one man sad ass army in Toronto .. it took him a minute to settle in and now we are shocked by this? C'mon.

I can't believe the Bulls have played like this so far. Its been pretty bad.
[Off-topic] iynfynity:
This Indiana team should win the next game!!
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
I see em getting one ... God forbid they get two and make it a series. Reminds me of the young n scrappy Bulls team that pushed Boston to 7.

Bulls just don't look the same as a whole.
[Off-topic] inconceeeivable:
Thunder FTW! Realistically, I'd be thrilled to get three rounds in. Never know though.

Great start to the postseason in general.
[Off-topic] iynfynity:
I'm not a Miami fan but I think they'll win over Chicago.
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
I'm sorry, Bosh can play but he comes across soft to me. I don't question his skill, I question his toughness and in this series he's playing like he's got a pair finally. What's up with attacks on my knowledge when all I said was he was a Lesbian? Read my post again.
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
Sorry, brother. Didn't mean to jump on that comment ... but as a late joiner and seeing the last few comments made it seem like you just say **** without any real base. Bosh can (italics for the phone users) be a softy but as a whole he has some fire. All you had to do was watch him in Toronto. Dude can ball. This stigmata that he couldn't be 'good' without following LeBron and teaming up is total horse ****. People jumped on that when they should have jumped on Kid James.

By no means is Bosh a 'tough' guy or a guy to center your team around ... but he is more than a role player. Bosh is a serious basketball player and I've followed from his college days and early NBA life and he is not a push over. His body of work isn't to bang, he's a player across the boards. Compared to Boozer, he is more of a complete player. He compliments LeBron and Wade and it took a minute for him to get acclimated. It also took both of the 'others' to get on the same page. When they did it was Wade and James and Bosh soon followed ... I guess I jumped on that because it seemed like so much non-fandom talk. This 'I'm repeating what I've heard from everyone else' talk and hate that people said of Bosh.

'Lesbian Bosh.' C'mon, dude. It took Bosh so long to get involved because Wade and James were trying to figure it out. The comments about D Rose and how LeBron and the lack of bench may have also been more deserving of the MVP was hilarious. What about Wade? He had, equally, as good of a year. It was only a matter of time before Bosh started getting his and he is doing just that. The 'lesbian Bosh' comment was uncalled for and totally bull**** ... just like the trendy hate that rained down all year.

I just get sick of seeing people make comments about something they really know nothing about. And your previous comment on 'forgetting as much basketball as you'll ever know' seems to be pretty spot on ... thing is, you seem to have forgotten more than not. Can't hide yourself behind the anonymity of the internet when you play all your cards and put it all out on the table and are clearly wrong. I guarantee I've been taking in sport longer than you have judged solely on your comments over the last two or three pages. I'm also, apparently, not the only one noticing how wrong you are. I've been a part of many forums over the years ... all of which, or most of, have had some sort of 'sports section / thread' and it has always included people like yourselves. People that love to talk like they know, say outrageous **** and just overall embarrass sports fans everywhere.
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Lol! I had no idea someone would feel so strongly about me calling a complete stranger a Lesbian to describe his toughness. Don't tell GLAAD on me!
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
You being so old and what not, being around 'the game' for so long ... maybe you can remind me what we call those that avoid the argument and choose to make a personal attack? Mind you, that may not have been 'uber' (for you kids) personal ... but, surely, you get what I mean ... care to remind me?*

*I do know, mind you. :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Whoa! I got a live one here! I don't write drawn out angry posts, I get right to the point of things, hell I don't even get angry on any forum, because I don't know any of you! All I do is read opinions give mine and discuss from there. I am guilty of being an agitator though, especially if you wear your E-heart on your sleeve. So chill out before you have an E-Heart attack and enjoy the playoffs, it's wide open this year and I'm crazy excited about it, and want to discuss it calmly.
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
Was more or less in response to some of your previous comments / responses, as well as this one, 'cept this one was just basically avoiding the matter at hand as a whole. You really think Bosh is a softy?
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
I'd like to have a calm and REASONABLE discussion. Not just some baseless comments. If I wanted to see people making baseless claims I would hit the comments section on some NBA ESPN article. Some of your posts have been shockingly lacking in knowledge or reason. I don't doubt that you watch ... doesn't mean you can talk or you know. Y'all can pretend you know the hoop game, but for some it is obvious you don't. No disrespect. Matter of fact, mad respect for trying.

And use of the word "y'all" was intentional.
[Off-topic] Dr.8820:
The ENTIRE Cry-ami team is soft...and...
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
I hate Miami. I honestly do. Since the beginning of time. Am a Wade fan, though, to be honest. Had nothing to do with anything ... but this Bosh **** is clearly a trend. Much like the Rose talk was halfway through the season. But that has changed. Both have. He must still be getting his pointers from Cowherd as he seems to be caught up in the hype game about em both. And I can't wait for your Indians to stumble.
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
I'm an armchair GM just like the rest of America. My comments are just not popular ones that's uniform with the head nodders in here. I honestly don't care how people feel about what I think, but that should be obvious to you by now. And yes, Bosh is as soft as LeBron's Hubba Bubba!
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
Its not about making popular remarks or comments ... it is about being reasonable. So many fans of 'sport' lack the latter. They don't understand that someone like Dwight didn't win the MVP because for whatever physical strength he possesses he lacks in mental strength and fortitude. He cripples his team with his *****ing and his technicals and it shows. He gives up like LeBum has done. He is biding his time much like James did. DPOY ... not hard when you are a monster in size and ability but possess the attitude and mind of a child. This is why he doesn't deserve and didn't get the MVP award. You have to acknowledge what he does with DPOY awards ... his trip to the Finals was as much on him as it was on the shoulders of the 'magical' run his teammates put on.

With so many people it is about stats. When Rose scores or assists on every trip down in the last 5 minutes that says more then Dwight just putting up 40 points and 15+ boards when 30 and 10 came from the first 3. He dominates the stat sheet more than a handful of players have done in the last while. Dwight Howard is something else, no doubt. But anyone honestly taking him over Rose for MVP is a joker. People were talking about this a month (at least) ago. If you're still hyping Dwight after how the regular season finished ... well .. not sure how you expect to be taken seriously. Even for an 'armchair gm.' My neighbor says you can manage his kids hamsters though. He leaves next week.
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
I say again look at the rosters of both Orlando and Chicago without the respective stars. This is Howard’s help: Jason Richardson 13.6 ppg, Jameer Nelson 12.3 , Brandon Bass, 10.9 ppg/5.6 rpg. Rose’s boys? Carlos Boozer is scoring 19 ppg and grabbing 9.7 boards, Deng gets you 17.7 rpg and 6.1 rpg, and Noah is at 13.5 ppg with 11.7 rpg.

So much was made about how Rose missed Boozer and Noah for chunks of the season. What no one mentions is that even when Boozer was out, Noah and Deng were there, and when Noah went down, Boozer and Deng were there. Bottom line is Rose has had more high quality help from the guys around him.

Rose will win because he's fresh and the media drools over him.
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
And look how Noah and Boozer finished playing with eachother. They were definitely not on the same page. Damn near towards the end of Noah's time out he was still 'averaging' double digit rebs because of the numbers he put up before. He finished poorly due to the ankle. They both finished low. And when one went down it took time for the other to get back, statistically. Thy didn't just jump back in and average said numbers. Those are averages. Stretches inflate said numbers.

Brother, its easy to go hunt down stats from the season ... they only represent so much. Should you be a true student you would know this. Both bigs had huge moments but missed lots of time ... they finished poorly even with the 22 of 25 wins during the stretch. Final averages are not necessarily accurate identifiers for a season's contributions. That's why they are called averages. No doubt, Deng was huge. The bench was huge. I'm not suggesting otherwise. But there is no denying that Derrick Rose was the most valuable player for his respective team. You might be one of 5 (other 4 reside in Florida - split evenly, of course) that is still denying this. Just admit it. Be glad that Dwight got DPOY ... thought its hardly a shocker.

Derrick Rose is also playing with, essentially, a brand new team. A new coach. And in a better Conference than it was last year. Its sort of hard to compare two different players in complete opposite positions ... but at the end of the season it is just no contest. Damn near everyone has admitted this at this point? Why can't you? Being 'different' is not always cool ... and just blindly hating on Rose gets tiresome. Just like that Bosh comment. It's like Cowherd signed up on there forums.
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Alright dude, I work with people like you and what you accused me of being earlier is exactly who you are! You would argue with me if I said water is wet after I splashed you with it! I said my peice, provided my numbers to support my argument and yet you still pulled the hater word out your ass. Your argument is **** to me now.
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
Your numbers? Season averages that don't represent how Boozer and Noah finished? Please, don't take me seriously. Averages are averages. I'm not denying that the Bulls supporting cast is, overall, better ... but when you aren't at full strength, new team and coach and still finish with the best record in the East ... in the League ... and you still can't acknowledge? Derrick Rose does more for his team than Dwight does ... as evidenced by facts that you can't seem to acknowledge. Instead you go cherry pick final regular season stats and averages to TRY and support your arugment and then wonder why no one takes you serious? On top of making baseless claims over the last few pages?

"He who admits defeat loses."

I hope you're more of a Football / Baseball fan. Don't care if you acknowledge fact or fiction, either. Agree with me, or not.

Take that **** to the comment section on the ESPN NBA articles. 'Armchair GM.' LOL that said it all right there. And don't suggest you want to have reasonable discussions when you clearly don't.
[Off-topic] westicle:
Skip Bayless, is that you?! ;P
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
You get the Shaq face for trying too hard!
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
I'll take it!
[Off-topic] corteliys:
the only thing that comes to my head is that SPORT RULEZ!!;););)
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
I do want to have a legitimate discussion of the playoffs, trust me. I just don't see how someone can still discount Derrick Rose as being the X factor. You look at the first two games of the playoffs and you see just how this new team is still trying to figure it all out. Noah with his minutes, Boozer with his hot and cold play. Deng was huge all year, but he's been middle ground the first two games. And it is early, had to say I expected them to come out with some more fire Game 2 and it didn't happen. And, the current streak is 23 wins in their last 25. It's solely on Rose's shoulders. The teams, between the Magic and Bulls - as a whole, may not be equal and the Bulls may hold the edge. But no one has carried their team more than Rose.

Granted, Noah finished with decent averages but his play the second half of the year wasn't what you expected. Nor was Boozer's. When these two finally got back on the floor together they struggled to co-exist. This is what happens when you go a whole year without, arguably, your two other biggest factors not having time to play together. And they still finished strong and still finished with the best record in the league. And there is only 1 reason.

I love me some Dwight Howard. He just isn't getting the MVP because he doesn't, truly and honestly, deserve it.

I would like to see the topic get back on point. And I recognize I derailed it. Lock it back in, games tonight.
[Off-topic] OHSteel:
Bulls without Rose = Cavs without James
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Look, we both agree that Rose is going to win the MVP, we disagree on who deserves it more. I'm not budging on my stance and neither are you, so let's agree to disagree and end that particular discussion.
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
Fair enough. I'm sorry for calling you a clown.
[Off-topic] blackmamba0730:
Awwww. I feel the love :-) now to more serious business who do you guys like tonight?
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
I think Orlando gets it. They have to win this one and Atlanta just wanted it more. Looking for J Richy to have a huge game. Love that dude!

Boston wins again. In more dominant fashion, hopefully.
[Off-topic] blackmamba0730:
Agreed. J Rich was a key pickup in that trade Orlando made this season. The bench needs to step up more. Howard can't do everything by himself. Im a Laker fan so anything I say about the Boston game is gonna be biased lmao. But seriously, NY needs to remain consistent on defense and work that offense through Stoudemire. He's a beast.
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
Yeah, I was pretty surprised that Game 1 was so low scoring (Boston / NY) and while I absolutely detest Boston, I just have to see them meet up with Chicago.

Big Stoudemire fan, too. And Melo ('CUSE!) but I hope Boston easily advances. Was hoping Miami might get some sort of challenge out of Philly ... get tested and tenderized a bit before the Boston series. Then again, I'm just hoping for some exciting ball so whoever moves on moves on.

And can the Blackhawks just lose already? :D
[Off-topic] blackmamba0730:
Lol im not really into hockey, but I did think Philly would test Miami a little more. Iggy is just not playing well at all. Elton Brand has been ok but they really need to step their defense up. I would love to see a Miami/Boston series.
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
Game 1 wasn't necessarily terrible, but it just made Game 2 that much harder to watch. Gotta assume Miami and Boston meet ... should that happen it should make for a good series.
[Off-topic] flyers2114:
Hawks should go quietly tonight.....Couver is just that much better...plus Hawks stumbled in....not the same cup winning team of last year...lost to many role players...
[Off-topic] iynfynity:
If Boston didn't trade Perkins they would crush Miami.
[Off-topic] Carla:
What other facts can you share with us from your visions into the future that could have been?
[Off-topic] blackmamba0730:
Rondo is running the ball down New Yorks throats. No defense smh
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Lol @ CD!
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
^^ LOLs

I like Jeff Green, but it's just not the same! That said, I still expect em to hang with Miami - if and when - they meet. And Rondo having a helluva game.
[Off-topic] blackmamba0730:
Melo is tryna keep em afloat. Too bad about Stoudemire
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
Yeah Melo is killing it too. Stretch run here. Gonna be interesting.
[Off-topic] iynfynity:
melo is the man!
[Off-topic] Dr.8820:
This one is definitely coming down to wire....
[Off-topic] iynfynity:
damn it, they lost again...
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
Wow what the hell was that at the end? Dayum LOL

Alright, hoping for a big game from Gerald Wallace. Go Portland!
[Off-topic] blackmamba0730:
what a disappointing loss. Melo played his ass off tonight. I bet he feels like Kobe on that 2006 Laker team lmao
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Unfortunately I missed the games because of my playoff agreement of QT with the old lady, but Twitter kept me abreast. TiVo Wednesday!
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
Yeah hell of a game from Melo, too bad it went down like that. And, whoa, Blackhawks up 6-1!?

Don't have NBA TV and the weather 'kept' me in. Missed the Orlando game, or will miss it as last I saw a few minutes remained. Sad face. :(
[Off-topic] OHSteel:
Did the Blackhawks save all their goals for game 4? Where was this offense the first 3 games?
[Off-topic] Dr.8820:
Flyer, hats off to the Flyers! Let's go Tribe!
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Guess who this is Doc!
[Off-topic] flyers2114:
I guess they needed Bolland......4 pt night...lol....but I think Couver played pretty soft....thinking they would just get out of the way...I thought they would knock em off...but sheesh you gotta skate some...lol...

BTW Instant classic was Sharks/Kings.........Kings were up 4 zip in first....SJ 5 goals in the 2nd and pulls out the winner in OT!! Game was great to watch:D

Ty and big game for us tonight!

Please say it isn't so!!!! Big game for your caps tonight also...GL
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Lol! He knows we're in here...Show and prove time for my boys! Thx!
[Off-topic] OHSteel:
Pens gonna go up 3-1 in the series tonight.
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Damn, Caps getting hammered, where have I seen this before...
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
James Harden is cookin tonight!
[Off-topic] blackmamba0730:
This Thunder game is just sad. Poor Nuggets....
[Off-topic] Carla:
I was thinking the same thing. At least this Spurs game is competitive.
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
I think it will get better in the 2nd half If OKC's shooting goes cold.
[Off-topic] flyers2114:
U better turn the caps back on...just sayin..........OT
[Off-topic] blackmamba0730:
4th qtr and its still sad :(
[Off-topic] flyers2114:
Hey Doc and World...what up...did u guys miss the sweep we got on the Buckeyes this weekend....woot!!! Go Blue!

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[Off-topic] Dr.8820:
....that's right....keep feeding the animals....:D
[Off-topic] Dr.8820:
see op post :D....
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Hey hey, the Wizards can end a streak too!
[Off-topic] Dr.8820:
Cavs doing all kinds of big things lol!

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[Off-topic] 80s Baby Ryan:
Who Dat baby!!!
[Off-topic] flyers2114:
I need some help here.....vote for Clifford....he is like my 3rd son...I coached him and my son...and they are best friends.....the poll is "play of the week"...scroll down main page and you will see it....thx to all!!

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[Off-topic] Carla:
Voted.... :)
[Off-topic] flyers2114:
Ty young lady!

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[Off-topic] Dr.8820:
Voted. How bout those cavs!

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[Off-topic] Carla:
Wow....That was a bit of a shocker eh.
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Right? WTF? Voted BTW.
[Off-topic] Carla:
Lake show isn't what it once was. Which doesn't make me sad in the least. Another Heat W BTW. Just sayin.
[Off-topic] flyers2114:
Thx for voting guys and gals....I knew I could count on you 3 for sure!! Doc i owe ya a thx....ran out of them....:eek:
[Off-topic] hpotter2:
thanks for this, cool
[Off-topic] flyers2114:
thx for coming on in!!
[Off-topic] flyers2114:
Make sure you are all doing ur part for hockey day in America....I am...bout to hit the ice here for our game in like 5 minutes....getting close to playoff time also!!! Then its off to have some brewha's!! That is also a benefit to late night puck!

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[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Anybody catch the dunk contest? It's more WWE now with the props and all, but my boy JaVale was robbed!
[Off-topic] Dr.8820:
I've got to give props to flyers and hockey day :) (even though it got overshadowed by a hell of a dunk contest!)
[Off-topic] Carla:
The 3-point contest is usually my fave. The dunk contest doesn't excite me until some big boys get in it.
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Wow...end of OT!
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Lol! Yup...
[Off-topic] blackmamba0730:
Come onnnnn Lakers -crosses fingers-
[Off-topic] worldwidepmp:
Caps win!!!!!
[Off-topic] Dr.8820:
Congrats world :D
[Off-topic] OHSteel:
Pens Win!!! And there has been a Neal sighting.
[Off-topic] flyers2114:
Huge win!

Also huge win for Pens....and I agree with no Crosby.....Neal needs to be stepping up....
[Off-topic] Larsiano:
I just wanted to say it out loudly, that I love it to play Football and congratulate Real Madrid for crushing the cup :D
[Off-topic] mmegalodon:
LOL! That was pretty effin funny, TBH. First, it falls. Then it gets run over. :rolleyes: Pretty wild.

Go Bulls! Early tip, don't be late, guys! :D
[Off-topic] iynfynity:
bullcrap! can't watch the bull's game tonight.