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[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
I asked because when I reboot my device, it first goes to the red-green-blue stripes screen (or OEM logo if the phone hasn't been flashed before) where it shows some info on the bottom right, and the WM boot image only appears after a while. So I thought the bootloader waited a few seconds before booting WM.

But on your video I see that PXA-Loader starts right after you press the reboot button (no red-green-blue stripes). So I thought it replaced the original bootloader.

So I suppose that WM is booted right after the color stripes show, but WM only draws to the screen after a while; your bootloader draws to the screen right after it is launched, and that's why we see no color stripes?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Windows Mobile Boot

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| HTC-Bootloader |
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\/
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| IPL/XIP (OEM Bootlogo) |
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\/
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| Windows Mobile |
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Linux Boot

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| HTC-Bootloader |
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\/
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| PXALoader | <-- My Bootloader
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\/
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| Linux Kernel |
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This is only a simple diagram :silly:

I hope this will answer your question...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
I'm really tired.

I did exactly that point by Mr. D-Two

But to quote Mr. 44 will have to wait and see what the sequel

Thank you to the efforts of Mr. D-Two

thx Mr. 44 for tips and ideas and help

In short, we'll wait and continue to use the Windows Mobile

Best wishes for your happiness

;);)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
d-two, thanks, that answered my questions.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] bob_bipbip:
gg dtwo!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
So it looks like the Bootloader file on the PXA-Bootloader folder at SourceForge was updated yesterday, and some files on the HTC-Flasher folder have been updated very recently too... :)

Have you already tested the bootloader on the Universal? (I can do it for you if you wish, just provide me instructions; my Uni needs to be reflashed anyway as it is acting stupid)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Thank you,

but notime is test for me ;) he has a uni with 128 BM....

And i have found a big problem it looks like i need a asm docg3 :eek: for really standalone bootup.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
Yeah, and from what I know he has one or more 64 MB ones so he sure can test better than me.

Sad to know, but I'm sure you'll get over that too :) Don't the docg3 drivers in the recent mainline kernels work?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Nice idea but the driver is in "c" and i need this in assembler for bootup

EDIT: I think this is the setup for the DocG3... and copy loop ... I go now sleep but tomorrow i will look for more informations

OT: I write tomorrow a classwork about adc (analog digital converter) and this is my teacher :good:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
Questions

Sorry if this annoys anybody! :crying:

First off, I want to honor D-Two, he is one of the best DEVS @ XDA!!! I love you!

Now to my questions:

Has the NANDROID installation come out yet? I don't think so...

Does the sound work on CM7.2? It doesn't work for me.

Is CM 9 available yet for BA?

Also, if I install MINECRAFT.APK, it says Application not installed. What do I do?

Thank you for any help!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
I guess the reason for Android not coming up on my device is my SD card !

Guys i dont know what kind CLASS of SD Cards is the best for BA ... !!! i wanna buy a SD Card. i buy SDHC 2gig Class 4 or Class 8 ?

and i dont know my BA can support higher than 2 gig.anybody help me about this problem !

thx
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
The new PXA NandDroid support all SD/SDHC cards...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
The NandDroid isn't out yet... and the CM9 was only a test build...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
I know you've been busy with the bootloader, but when it comes to the kernel, are you focusing on getting 2.6 to work perfectly, or are you trying to get the 3.5 to catch up on the progress done with the 2.6? I recall you saying the 3.5 one was much faster...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
I work at the moment only at the 3.4 android kernel in the 2.6 kernel isn't work my standby mode...

and i think it is better to use the newer kernel for future development...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
PXALoader

OK, so the pxafb is now working :D

last step port the Doc G3 driver...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
Wow. You are an amazing Dev!

I love your work and I really like the video about PXA Loader!!!

I can't wait Mr. D-Two!

YOU ROCK!!!

TheAH

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And I also was able to install GAPPS! Thank you so much for the help!

Do you know when Phone will work in Android? I will consider NANDing Android to my BA when it does.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
No, you mean Android 3.x this android was designed for tablets... the kernel has nothing todo with tablet or smartphone...

The phone function has 2 problems first the mic is at the moment not work and the pin input work at the moment only under WM :(

I will fix this in the future...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
Ok. Thanks, also, WIFI can't find anything anymore :( on android.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Wifi work only in CM7.2 and only WEP or unsecure...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
d-two, you say that with the standby mode you added support to, you get 36 hours of standby.

But on Windows Mobile, the standby time is much higher. That means there's still something that can be turned off/put in power saving mode during standby, right?

The only things I can remember of are slowing down the CPU to the lowest speed, turning off the screen and disabling the ATI chip (I think you already do all of these). You could also disable the sound system (I don't know if this will save much battery or if you're doing it already).

Last time I tried Android on the BA, the sound channel from the GSM modem was always open (you could hear the network noise). Have you fixed this already?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
I have 7.2. I restarted and it works (WPA2-PSK). But Market keeps crashing.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
Then I guess d-two was wrong when he said only unsecured and WEP worked... are you sure your router is set to allow only WPA2, and not to fallback on WEP when clients don't support WPA (something that's extremely insecure anyway)?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
I have implement standby mode and this is not the same like suspend!!! If the suspend work is the battery time longer...

BUT: Before standby mode the battery have only 5 hours work! (if you have luck:D)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
OK, so magician finish, too :good:

now only DocG3 ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
No, now Wi-Fi works sometimes. Market Crashes - is there a way to get Google Play? Also, it won't come out of flight mode. RAGE!!!

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Wow! Simply amazing! Is there a way to sync with network time, WinMo 6.1, Manilla by D-Two?

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What does test build mean?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] miki100:
Do not even think of running Minecraft on Blue Angel. It will never run. Remember that his game is very slow even on much faster devices. Additionally, I suspect it requires at least ARMv7 and a GPU.

@d-two: Are you using the latest acx100 driver that has the watchdog feature?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
yes, but the PCMCIA is in the kernel 3.4 very different and need a new port :silly: before the wifi is working again... and i hope with WPA2 support ...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
pxa's developing research http://ladecimaarte.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/immagine-9.jpg
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
A bit off topic...

Just wondering, is there something that will allow the Blue Angel to sync with the Network Time? It is really annoying me!

I'm Running D-Two's Windows Mobile 6.1 With Manilla

(6.5 is just not my type...)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Nope...

And i don't know if it's work in Android...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] wolfsstolz:
Hello, i test it 10 Hours but i dosnt work ....

i thinks that the Problem is in Startup:

root=/dev/mmcblk0p1

root=/dev/mmcblk0p2

when i Change it , but i have now other Boot Problems ....

Waiting for root device

or

unknow Partition table

i have a VPA III, who can Help me please
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
first partition must fat, second the ext2/ext3 or ext4 with system files
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
Mr D-Two ? i can install Kernel 3.5+ on my BA now ?

if ok, help me about a link for install Kernel 3.5+ .thanks

i cant instal Alfa 7.2 becouse of my SDCard !!!

:eek:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] wolfsstolz:
but where i can see what is what ?!

i have Change it but when i do that , my VPA will give me a different Error message .

Have make it now :

mmcb1k0

but now i have fallow Error:

mmcb1k0: unknow Partition table :S
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
look here: https://sourceforge.net/p/pxadroid/wiki/Home/
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
Don't change that, leave it as it originally was.

You must create two partitions on SD, the first is FAT and the second is ext3. You must use Linux in order to create this partition and put files in it. Read http://sourceforge.net/projects/pxadroid/files/SDCard Tutorial.pdf/download
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] wolfsstolz:
Have Backtrack and i have make it . (i have make ext4) and i have make all so where i can see in Video :S

Android cant found my SD Card for ext4

i think that my ext4 have another Name , is it on a VPA another Name !?

Who can tell me how i can find the Name from that !? Thanks for Help
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
Are you sure the ext4 partition is the second partition on the card (that is, the FAT one comes first when seen in a graph)?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
Umm, what type of memory card are you using? Because the support for SDHC hasn't been released yet...?:rolleyes:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] wolfsstolz:
no, i use a old 512 SD Card from TomTom :S

SD Kard work, name is ok too (see in harriet Boot List) but it is a Kernel Problem

(Kernel Panic)

Normal i not a idiot with stuff but this make me crazy

Now 2 Days Later it dosnt work :S

I Have installed an dualboot rom, can i flash it with Flash Tool direkt !?

Who can give me a faq !?

Thanks for help to all

Please dont forget, i use a German VPA, are here another Hardware ?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Please describe what you have done...

and which files you have use! (with link)

And the error message from kernel output!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
No. Mainboard is always the same, only thing are the three different Displays and graphic chip.

Even BA without camera is the same, just no cam mounted and different backcover

(contrary to Harrier).

Did you mention this:

"IMPORTANT format without owner of the file system"

Maybe you should forget the video and perform step-by-step D-Two's tutorial.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pxadroid/files/SDCard Tutorial.pdf/download

Even me zero-percent-ubuntu-user got along with it...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Thanks for your answer...

but the graphic chip is always the same ;)

EDIT: Oh, but i have find out a other different... or better my bootloader find it out :silly:

look at the NAND info...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
d-two i can't wait i'm exiting like a schoolar girl, you think you can say progress and update first and second post (kernel 2.6 and 3.5) ? I look at that 10 times every day lol
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
Interesting that there are two different kinds of DoC on the BA. It would be great to know if there's any link between the way BAs are branded (Qtek, Verizon, etc.) and the type of DoC. I have access to two Qtek-branded BAs, is there any way to check what's the NAND type without flashing PXAloader (that is, a way to know from WM)?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
one is blue angel the other is the harrier
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
I have a few random questions/thoughts to keep the post flowing:

Android runs pretty well at 208 MHz – 416 MHz i think the only slowdowns are the sdcard, ram, and graphics. I benchmarked my class 6 sdcard and the write speed was 6.8 mb/s and read was at 22.9 mb/s, is there a hardware/speed limit on the card reader?

Things should speed up a little moving system to flash if that’s possible right…? <- This should be yes since android gets bogged down a little reading from data & system at the same time, or reading system while trying to write to data

How bad of an idea is it to overclock the processor, ram, card reader, and bus?	<- I actually didn’t see a big boost from these; I need to test with an emulator or video.

What file format is everything in that gets flashed using the flashtool?

Is there going to be a set of keys to press to go into a bootmenu?

Comment: Somebody should start a thread for what games/apps work.

And yay!!! we missed our fourms getting closed again!!! Link
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Are there non-harrier-verizon-BAs?

I just ask because i only know harriers with totally different board.

btw- obviously my graphic chip thing was quick'n'dirty, but nevertheless there are three different kinds of boards, as those three screens can't be switched.

In practice i didn't ever find a brand-caused difference except front key board, so i'd like to test as many boards as possible- just tell me what to do.

edit: couldn't read the pics on my Ameo yesterday- if i now see the difference lies between Harrier and BA, it's no real surprise, as their boards (mentioned above) are totally different.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
Ok, that's a shameful part of the BA. It works right on my Hermes!

It works on Android, but the time is 7 hours ahead and year is 2003! :(
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
If you can access your ext3/4 partition, see if you can edit your init.rc and change this:

sysclktz 0	to this	#sysclktz 0

And see if android keeps the time from windows.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
Finaly can we install Android nand Rom for our BA ? or not ?!

:eek:

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can i ask a question ?!

can we install gingerbread with HTC Flasher.exe on our BA ? if ok,How ? :rolleyes:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
No, not yet and probably not considering that the nand is not big enough to hold a standard android filesystem. And also no to your second question. All info is in the first post. If it's not there it's either not availble or not ready for general use.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Men, thats a lot of questions ;)

I don't know if exist a hardware limitation for the SDCard reader but i think it is not so fast like some newer hardware...

For your Uni is put the android system in nand no problem but the blueangel have as example only 64MiB and your Uni 128MiB...

Yes, the overclock bring a lot of performance ... I have the blueangel overclock to 528Mhz CPU, PXABus to 266Mhz and the RAM is now 133Mhz and run very stable!!! The Android looks like a lot of times faster!

What do mean with "flash format"? My HTC-Flasher put raw data to the device it don't have a special format like "nbf" or "nbh"...

Bootmenu? No, it dosen't have a bootmenu! But with hold down the power button from device (on every device) it starts the recovery for install android or updates... at the moment ;) (don't know if i need a bootmenu...)

Yes, i have see it, but this time it contains no device that for me is important :D

EDIT: Oh and i have a little success with the DoCG3 driver... ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
With all these things overclocked, won't it also consume much more battery?

About the bootmenu, I don't think it needs one - it would only cause more confusion for new users. Right now we have the HTC bootloader mode (which should be able to fix any "brick" when users mess things up) and the CWM recovery from which one can solve pretty much any other less severe problem with the Android installation. The only reason one would ever need to have a boot menu in PXALoader would be to dual-boot WM and Android, but that's not possible on any device because of the limited NAND space (also, I bet it'd need custom WM ROMs to work...).

Seeing these screenshots, it seems your DoC driver is reading the bytes with the wrong endianness...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Right, the htc-bootloader mode is good to prepare the device for android and is good for restore the original rom...

The power consume is relative i mean if you save time with using android you save battery consume ... isn't it ;)

but here you can look how much it cost more battery...

I think it is 0,1~0,2V more... ;)

EDIT: I have add the overclock values
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
And (as I said in my reply after I edited it) isn't your bootloader reading the DoC with the wrong endianness? Or is it meant to be like that? Because I see 4345 on the Uni and 4543 on the hex editor...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
That is correct believe my ;) All value comes mirrored out ...

And the DoC detection in my bootloader is correct too... if i start it on the Hima he said "NAND : Doc Millennium Plus" also the Harrier has the same DoC like Hima but not like the Blueangel :silly:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
But is the DoC meant to be read with that endianness (and we need to provide the ROMs "mirrored"), or do you need to fix the bootloader for it to read correctly?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
Dear help me plz.

I do exactly everything that is written in PDF by Me D-Two about install "CM7.2"

My SDCard is 1 Gig.and first partion is FAT and the other one is ext4 ... everything is OK ...

But i dont know why when i open Herat.exe, the errors appears like this : can not exe... sys/bin/.... and BA booting to WM again :(

Do you think this error coming from my SDCard class ? :crying:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Only the output is mirrored...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
You have put the zImage in the same folder from herat.exe?

like this " can not exe... sys/bin/.... " i need the exactly error message...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
So you seem close, it's trying to start but android either can't access or locate those files in system/bin. That error usually comes when you don't copy the rootfs as a root user...or those files just didn't get copied to your card.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
First- is it SD or SDHC? Second- i mentioned this partition thing... looking back at all the posts our friend has given us, he's not really reliable in reading, i'm sorry to note.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
PXALoader says my BA has a Board ID of 5 and the NAND is a DOC G3. And if the "width" and "height" values it shows are for the screen, then they show wrong on my BA, because they show as VGA (640*480) instead of QVGA (320*240).

I really like how it vibrates when you reset it :)

EDIT: and coming back to Windows Mobile is as easy as reflashing the backup of the WM2003 partition (yes, it seems to save the main memory along with it). If this is the closer one can get to dual-boot, it's already VERY good! HTC-Flasher really is an awesome tool.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
can you make a picture...

Which values?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
Wait some minutes to let me reflash PXA-Loader again. I'll edit this post when I do so.

Also, I assume that since it's a DOC G3 the bootloader just halts and doesn't even try to boot the kernel, since it doesn't know how to read/write the memory...

Do you want me to save the log of the flasher?

Wait while I download webcam drivers... :(

EDIT: Here, have some pictures: http://tny.im/bapxaldrphoto1 and http://tny.im/bapxaldrphoto2

If you can't understand some of the numbers, on the green part, it's not my fault that you put the HTC logo behind... Don't worry, I can assure you that all those numbers you can't see are zeros :)

Do you want me to do more testing, or can I get back to WM? Because my BA needs charging...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
This is a debug version for the PXAFB for Uni and Magician... i have forgot to replace it....

This has nothing todo with blueangel ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
Oh, looks like I was lucky enough to download a non-working bootloader build :)

Still, it was very useful for testing HTC-Flasher and the WM restoring abilities. Now if only Android could be booted... ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] dilster97:
Does having a different board is change anything.

(like the tegra 3 variants on the HOX)

HTC One X Viper X 3.3.8(Variant 1 CPU)

XM-#252

Backup: O2 XDA IIs WM 2003 SE 4.21
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
I have use the blueangel for print out the values for pxafb to test my calculation in my driver... (only debug infos ;))
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
??? what do you want say with this comment?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
Do you plan on releasing some alpha-version of both PXA-Loader and the CWM thing, even if it doesn't fully work on devices other than the BA? Something as working as what you've shown on the last video would do. I need it for testing if a certain SDHC will work and with what speed, because I need to know if it's worth buying a new one from Amazon or not (I have a gift card expiring soon...).
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] dilster97:
What does the board id mean?

That's what I was trying to say but I derped.

HTC One X Viper X 3.3.8(Variant 1 CPU)

XM-#252

Backup: O2 XDA IIs WM 2003 SE 4.21
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
I have at the end of this week 2 weeks free :fingers-crossed: i hope than i can finish it...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
The boardid (revision) is for some infos:

Boardid 4: is Harrier with Toppoly display

Boardid 5: is BA with Toppoly display

Boardid 6: is BA with Sony display
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
Too bad that in two weeks (well, most likely at the end of this week), I'll have no free time to play with my BA until the summer. Well, I'll just convince myself that I'll need to live with WM until the summer... :silly: