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[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
d-two, you don't realize how many jumps I did in my chair when I saw SDHC support! Finally, I'll be able to use my 16GB SDHC card I bought for my Universal (which I no longer use, dead battery and little RAM) on the Blue Angel. Awesome work, and I wonder what else you may come up with.

The power of Linux is that it's much easier (at least IMO) to write drivers than in Windows Mobile. There are plenty of SDHC drivers for Linux, but few for WM. Have you written your own driver from scratch, did you use an existing one, or by using the new bootloader the SDHC problem was magically solved without the need for new drivers?

By the way, has the heat issue been solved? Last time I tried, the BA still went very hot when Android was running, I think it was because the wifi power was set too high, have you solved this already?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Thank you, but notime has create a 3.5 kernel with android features, the problem is not alone the adb more important is the wakelock feature that was need for touchscreen support in android!! I think you can use the android kernel for ubuntu too. The other big problem is the power supply, in 3.5 is the bq24022 regulator remove and the gpio regulator is not work for blueangel... :(
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
It looks that my bootloader resolve the problem, with WM is the SDHC didn't work.

I think I can the SDHC driver in Windows Mobile get to run too, but i can nothing promise.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Cool- my Hima is ready for update:fingers-crossed:

(And knowing you're working on it waiting for the WM-solution will just be some kind of pleasure...)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] miki100:
You and notime2d8 make a team of great developers :)

I know you probably checked that, but maybe backporting the driver from kernel 3.3 would work? Patch (I can't again test it, because I'm waiting for an important call, and Blue Angel is my only phone...)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Thanks, but the gpio regulator works now :good: we don't need the old driver anymore...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
Is the status list on the first post updated? I thought you had solved the suspend/wakeup problem by developing the custom bootloader.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
no the ATI make problems with wakeup...:p but, yes the first post is already updated...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Maybe i'm gone bit off topic over summer vacancies, but the last versions i tested had to be copied on SD-card, WM started and then starting Android from SD. Does now Android start without WM? Or how does this 16GB/sdhc work?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
look in the second post, the video native android :silly: but i didn't release this version till now...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Thanx- so I know it works, though not quite ready for publication. Btw: WHEN do you sleep?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
What is sleep? :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Why am i not surprised at all? :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
d-two, is incredible what you do for our BA :crying:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
I'd save my tears for when I see a new release running on my BA :fingers-crossed:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Right, even Android for BA on 4GB-SD-Card would have been ingenious- but now the option of going up to at least 16GB- this provides some totally different perspectives! Not only for BA, but for Hima as well- without the limitation of memory our phones actually suffer from (especially Hima, which i really like because of the solid way it's build), they'll be back in fit for everyday-use category. (And ahead from this- if D-Two really could build such a bootloader for WM and cook it in his Multilang-ROM... just a dream:angel:)

The only thing missing is the built-in GPS device.

Does any one here know- if i take a keychain-GPS (Teleprovodnik)

which provides some solid signal and gets properly connected via bluetooth to my BA,

take away its battery (which reduces the device for 50% to about 7mm) and make it drain its energy from the phone, connection to the phone it takes his energy from isn't possible any more (connection-failure-report after entering 4-digit-code)- but bluetooth-connection to another BA still works fine :confused:

wtf does this device not want to be connected to the phone it gets its energy from?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
The signal is too strong and leads to garbage data transmission?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Hmm... the distance in both cases is less than 10cm, on the phone less than 2. but here it worked when GPS ran on its own battery.

Maybe i have to change the way GPS is connected to the battery...

I'll do some testing and start a speciel thread in the BA Accessoires&Equipment-Area to keep D-Two's thread clean.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
Any chances of seeing another test release, this time with bootloader, in the next days? I'm tired of refreshing this thread :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
I don't know :p

If the problems fix in a few days :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
About the camera drivers... the camera is not that good but I think it's a shame if it's left out.

According to the BA wiki and to handhelds.linux.kernel mailing list archives, there used to be a kernel patch that adds camera support at:

http://www.ulyssis.org/~beton/arm/patch-linux-2.6.9-rc2-tcl1-i2c-20040924.gz

however, the file is not available anymore. Internet Archive doesn't have it either.

Is it worth contacting the people involved in that mailing list thread in order to get said patch?

The email addresses can be seen at http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.linux.kernel/693/ after you click them (they'll show like a captcha).

I can do this for you so you use the time to fix the problems :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
gosh :rolleyes:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
or you make a working driver for linux kernel 3.5 :p
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] miki100:
This driver will not get us anywhere. I have this patch on my HDD, but it is for adcm2650 connected to PXA27x(if I'm not mistaken), and in Blue Angel camera is connected to ATI Imageon 3200, and this is the problem. We don't have ANY technical information about it (only the great work with Linux FB driver for it). The only thing that I found was incomplete documentation for ATI Imageon 2182, which is a newer device.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
yes, exactly this is the problem :good: Please send me the documentation about the ATI Imageon 2182 ...

PS: i will send you a patch from notime8d for fix the SD Card problem in the new kernel commit it, please. i have today no time for work on the kernel.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
This looks like a play on words... and I guess I should have tried to commit it....but I suck at using git :crying:

Did anyone ever figure out if at least the ATI chip uses an I2C interface or if some of the Qualcomm chips used similar hardware since this line was sold to them?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
I think the kaiser gpu is similar hardware or the ati imagon in the harald...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Infortunately Kaiser-camera has a different connector than BA... would a Kaiser mainboard with camera be any help for you?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] snakefreak:
Nice work d-two Really amazing to see a dev on a old but good device! think about to buy one again ;)

thinking often about the The good old times before android. (Ångström, qtopia )
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] pablo67:
Hi at all

any news of the poject android?

By
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
d-two finally go to sleep, he must recuperate 1 month, so we wait lol
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
If there would be, D-two would have let us know 'bout it... OR he's up to something more important like this 16GB-thing. There's no use in twittering about halflaid eggs- if he's beyond it he'll be more distracted by impatient questions than by really occuring difficulties...

So just take some cookie and wait :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
If you're impatient, just look at d-two's profile when he's online, and see what he is looking at here in XDAdev... still, he may be doing something unrelated to BA development, but you get some interesting hints...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
You're quite right :up: And as he's trying to solve problems that yet haven't been solved, it's quite naturally he's searching for things outside BA-Threads. And second: D-Two's no slave to his own project (i hope so)...

BTW: if any one should have questions about state of development and things to be solved- just take a look at post#1.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] ares93:
A bit stalkerish, don't ya' think? :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Basically i understand your intention... But there are profile-settings, possibility of multiple accounts, and after all we don't have real private data dealt with here. But maybe it could be some idea if XDA-Dev would invent a „private-mode″ similar to eBay (of course you can just log out if you're in search of something dangerous ;) ), suppose temporarily. But i doubt it, could be much ado ′bout nothing.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
It's incredible, CM7 on my older qtek9090, it's incredible the d-two's work, i'm waiting for final version everyday is nearest for final version :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
@d-two with new bootloader that abilify 32 gb sdch we can use class 10 cards ?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Hope - when finished - he'll manage to port it to Hima... (bittebitte:fingers-crossed:)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] red_hanks:
This is great! Hahahaha. Nice to be back here.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
I don't know i have only a 16 GB SDHC ;)

at the weekend i want relase the next version... but only SD card version NO bootloader BUT with CWM :fingers-crossed:

EDIT: and yes i want port to Hima and Magician
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
JippieJippieYeah!:good:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] miki100:
That's nice, maybe this will force me to get back to development for Blue Angel :) . I tried to get Wifi working in kernel 3.5, but there are many bugs.("no free txdesc left", "channel invalid in current regulatory domain")

I think that once we are done with Blue Angel, porting this to Himalaya and Magician shouldn't be hard. Especially for Himalaya , because it's very similar hardware to Blue Angel.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
yes, for the hima we have all driver from blueangel with a little bit different configuration... and magician is the most stuff already exist in the Linux kernel...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] GnatGoSplat:
Oh wow, D-two, I haven't checked in for awhile and nice to see you've made good progress. I see USB charging works now under kernel 3.5, does it work under Kernel 2.6.34? It's not listed there as either working or not working.

That'll be great if USB charging will work on my Harrier, then I can use it as a proper desk clock. :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
I presume when D-Two has finished, your Harrier will be much more than a stupid desk clock ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] GnatGoSplat:
I wish, but probably not. I don't think anyone will ever get Harrier's CDMA radio working, and it also doesn't have Wifi. With no way to connect to the internet, the best use for an old Harrier is probably a fancy desk clock.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
This guy just got the blue angel to use sdhc cards... I don't think he knows the meaning of the word impossible (me goes off to get a dictionary for d-two :p)

Sent from mALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] GnatGoSplat:
Yes, true, but d-two isn't working on Harrier's CDMA radio. Wifi also can't work on Harrier because it doesn't have a Wifi radio built in at all. Only way to get Wifi is with a SDIO card. I don't even know if Android can support Wifi via SDIO card, and even if it could, there are none with storage built-in > 256MB (and 256MB ones are long gone and can't be found). You guys with the Blue Angel are lucky. Well, at least Harrier can run d-two's Android for Blue Angel so it can run Android apps even if it can't go online.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Lately i saw some adapter SD-sized for two MicroSD-Cards made for digital cameras- couldn't this be any help?

Description said with it two cards would be dealt as one.

Found it:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/MEMORY-ADAPT..._Camcorder_Speicherkarten&hash=item2ec2036479
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] GnatGoSplat:
I think that only converts 2 MicroSD to Sony Memory Stick Pro. Probably only way to get a Harrier online is if there is any possible way to support USB Host and then maybe a USB Wifi dongle could work.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Not true actually

Look up Eye-Fi (I think they are called that). These are full size as cards with wifi built in..... I will see if I can post a link later.

Sent from mALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] GnatGoSplat:
Unfortunately, Eye-Fi isn't SDIO. It runs its own built-in proprietary software and devices only see it as a normal SD storage. I already looked into it a few months ago. :(
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Ahh... Fair enough :) I think however that there should be a spot for a wifi chip on the board. If that is the case, it could just be possible to add wifi on the device... I think.

Sent from mALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] GnatGoSplat:
I downloaded the newest image file version of CM7 from the link in the 1st post (files dated 5-28), but my Harrier still won't charge from either USB or the AC. Under "Spare Parts", "Battery info", it detects the power input as it will change state from "Discharging" to "Not Charging" and display the correct plug type (USB or AC), but it never actually charges.

Is this because I need to use CM7.2 to get the charging ability, or is it because Harrier is different enough that charging just won't work?

Also, how would I try Kernel 3.5+? I couldn't find a download link for it.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
As D-Two has announced a new release for this weekend, why do you waste your time with some old release?

I'm sure there will be at least more than one improvement...

btw: i'm really curious if they built Harriers' motherboards without wifi-chip or if it's just a driver- and/or radio-related malfunction.

Those BAs without camera have a fully equipped board with connector and camerahousing, only the camera itself hadn't been plugged in.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] GnatGoSplat:
I suppose I am incorrectly assuming the downloads at the link matches the description of features in the post. Usually they match, but I guess not here?

I think the Harrier board doesn't have the wifi chip or a place for it at all. I think it's a completely different board design with different I/O shields and layout. For example, location of the backup battery is very different and also the camera is quite different (has LED flash on HARRIER).

You can see board pics here:

http://transition.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/

Enter Grantee Code NM8 for HTC, and Product Code HARRIER (and you can compare to BA using product code BLUEANGEL).

Unfortunately, the HARRIER photos are too low-res to see chip numbers.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Thanx a lot- you're absolutely right.

It's also a completely different backup-battery (BA has a flat V18HRT) ...

Maybe this free square down right if you take a look to the antenna-side of the board

is what we are looking for... What is this black square laid over it? i don't know it from BA.

Interesting: A3 version without camera doesn't have a connector on board,

contrary to BA without camera.

If we just could get the flashlight working on BA:rolleyes:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] GnatGoSplat:
On the 3rd pic of the Harrier, you can see the black tape is removed. There are solder pads for a SIM card socket, however, it won't take regular SIM cards but RUIM cards. RUIM cards weren't used in the USA, but in some other countries where CDMA is (or was) used, the RUIM contains subscriber info same as SIM for GSM.

On closer inspection, it looks like the camera between Harrier and BA are probably the same. It looks like the flash LED is probably connected to 2 gold contacts on the main board.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
O.K.- and Harrier has got its Backupbattery right where BA has got its WiFi-Antenna.

Looking at the Pics in your link (thanks again) i cant't find a similar area on Harrier Board.

Think i'll compare the boards in real. Hope next week...

Btw.- think we should shift this to Harrier Thread, just to keep D-Two's clean.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Done.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Got it:D

May i kindly ask for your attention to my new Thread:

"Built-In GPS Device for Blue Angel"

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=32237135#post32237135
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
thats a really cool idea!! :good:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
@d-two can you assign a hardware button for rotate screen in your CM7 ?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
I understand d-two has more things to do than develop this, but what happened to the release that was talked about for the last weekend?

I hope he posts it soon or at least releases the whole source code somewhere so we can try to build it ourselves...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
deja vu...

Think we've been at such a point just half a year ago- people asking first for basic information (ignored/dismissed), and then declared project dead. Just take a look at post #1- D-Two has already given his answer. I don't know him in private, but no qestion neither for private nor for technical reasons he'll give up wiithout telling us.

He's gone so often beyond of what was said to be possible, so i've got to repeat myself: be patient, take a cookie and wait ;)

Btw: of course i'm impatient myself more than you'd expect...:fingers-crossed:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
My only fear is that if for some reason he has to stop working on the project without time to post any sources or release anything, then most of his work would have gone to trash. Personally I'd prefer to have more little bits released frequently than a giant-progress-release after six months without releases. Even because this way people could test things better: imagine one thing doesn't work on someone's BA and d-two doesn't even imagine: it's much better to fix it while he's still at it, than a long time later when he does one grand release and then nobody's sure what broke what.

Also, I don't like this "one-man-do-it-all" behavior. I think it'd be best if we kept with the open source spirit and shared things a bit more, allowing others to participate, but I guess that's just me and my open-source-fanboyism. Don't mind my words...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
It's just the way he does his job- we can take it or leave it.

I've been quite surprised he'd taken others into development at all. And if there should happen something serious to him, avoiding the finishing of this project... in such a case the whole BA-thing would be just a ****. Believe me, i know what i'm talking about. At this point end of discussion.

I'm sure he's just met some difficulty he din't expect and now hinders him from posting. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Worked till yet ;)

---------- Post added at 12:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:46 AM ----------

Hey, i didn't set this four stars. I wrote something related to the old pecunia non olet.:confused:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Sorry, the framebuffer driver support no screen rotate at the moment :silly: (i have remove the double framebuffer support for more performance!)

@all

yes, my plan was release a new version on last weekend, BUT i have many thinks todo (not only for this project) and the new kernel (3.4) is a lot of times faster, but has a many bugs (Sound, Wifi and problem with SDCard mount in android). So if someone has problem with that here is my new release date : unknown...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
There is life OUTSIDE XDA? :eek:

If anyone is interested in Harrier- got some for sale.

@D-Two: hast 'ne PN.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
There are a few screen rotate apps on the market you can download. Some you can even assign buttons to. Performance will suffer a lot as android will have to do the rotation in software since there is no gpu support for this.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
D-Two has already released some working android kernels. If someone wants to do something they can build whatever android (or Linux) version and test, tweak, and patch it all they want. The only thing you would be lacking is a RIL driver for the modem which android comes with a generic one…so there you go…this should keep anyone busy until the next release as there are always more tweaks to be done and 7 different versions of android and dozens of mods.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
@notime

i have start with your bootloader for Uni... see screenshot

Off-topic:

This is a reason why i need two screens :p i think i will buy a third :laugh:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
Yay!!!

Yes!, I see the arm assembly goodness. I'm super excited by this as ive been failing trying to get android to resume with the stock HTC bootloader. I'm not sure cause i'm busy on a lot of things lately, but i think this is the last thing that i'm missing for my universal to be complete...that and an os for my 64mb uni's.

Correction, standby mode now works but suspend to mem freezes on sleep.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
And still there are people complaining D-Two wouldn't share neither knowledge nor sources?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
It's great to know you're working on the Uni! Even though my Uni only has 64MB RAM and thus Android will probably be unusable (except maybe version 1.6 which is now very outdated), your work may help booting and resuming from suspend other Linux distros. :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Ok, i have found the LED flashlight GPIO (ASIC3 GPIOC14) for Harrier ;)

and a really BIG thanks to b-44 for the Harrier...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
You're welcome ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Davidenji:
Hi guys!

It's hard to believe that my mother still use her Blueangel with original rom...LOL

I hope your PXA droid project continue, so you'll bring new life to old device, and to all "old school" mother :D

Much respect developers...

Greetings from Davide
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Good News:

I have test a 32GB SDHC Card class10 and it work :laugh:

This card:

http://www.amazon.de/dp/B007BJHEWK/...de=asn&creative=22494&creativeASIN=B007BJHEWK