yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lovethyEVO:
Setcpu does not do anything that a user with root access and terminal emulator can't. Setcpu does not actively do anything related to cpu speed or voltage in way shape or form. What setcpu does do is set the min and max speed the cpu can scale to and the parameters specific to the governor (up-threshold for one).

The governors also don't conflict with setcpu because setcpu does not do anything that a governor does.

The only things setcpu does is allow you to specify what governors and cpu speeds to use during screen on/off, charging, and battery levels through the use of a gui.

Technically setcpu does not interfere with havs its the settings that cause the issues. Again, what setcpu does any root user with te can do. If you issue the wrong settings in te and your device "crashes" is the user going to blame the settings or te? With the way some people are they would probably claim te interferes with havs instead of realizing that the setting combo they issued is not stable.

Setcpu is a great gui to tweak cpu parameters but don't confuse it with an app that actually controls the dynamic cpu frequency scaling or its voltages.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aimbdd:
Ahh there. someone more knowledgable then me explains it perfectly.

I've run set cpu plus haves kernel for the last month... as have almost everyone using savagedzen.. thats what they recommend. If it was causing issues i am sure we would know by now. 100%stable... 0 random reboots! (well... accept for when i didn't follow directions xD)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vulf:
I believe you and am not discrediting you but how come when I run SetCPU on a kernel with HAVS, it crashes? (Tried 4.3.1 and 4.2.2.) I moved the maximum value from the default 944 by maybe one or 2 notches up and the device freezes and crashes. Maybe Netarchy's kernels aren't compatible with CPU Tweaking programs? Anyone out there running a Netarchy Kernel w/ HAVS + SetCPU successfully?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lovethyEVO:
Again, it is not setcpu it is your settings. You said you moved the slider "one or two notches up" (overclock) from the default 944? The evos default max is 998. Either way, with what you said you are overclocking and your device cannot handle the overclocked speed.

Like I said, you can do the exact same thing that setcpu does through terminal emulator. Instead of blame setcpu you should observe the speed/governor combo you are using.

I can oc my evo to 1.26 on my personal kernel without it rebooting on certain governors but on others it would reboot randomly and I don't set cpu parameters through setcpu, I use te, init scripts, and tasker.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freeza:
Couldn't have said it better. The common misconception around these parts is that SetCPU has some negative effect on kernels with HAVS and this is just untrue.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sekigah84:
Maybe I'm getting some terrible luck. I've always gotten negative results from using both SetCPU and HAVS. Tried different settings and recommended settings from others. As well as trying to tweak it myself. Not working so I just removed it and HAVS worked better on its own.

Sorry for the misinformation.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lovethyEVO:
The common practice with setcpu is to use it to underclock when sleeping. Depending on the governor you use (besides powersave) you are actually causing the cpu to struggle when completing tasks if you limit the max to 245 for example. During sleep if it needs to perform a task and that task would normally complete in 1 second at 998 mhz imagine how much longer it would take if it was capped at 245.

I have had better results not underclocking while sleeping. I would suggest using setcpu to specify to use the conservative governor when sleeping, ondemand/interactive/smartass when screen on (depending on which one you want), and interactive/ondemand while charging without under/overclocking at all and using the default freqs (245 - 998). I'm certain you would be surprised at how your evo behaves after that.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aimbdd:
I don't know though... if race to idle applied here why would phone manufacturers ever under clock their phone? It kind of confuses me. Rti applies to computers but not phones? doesn't make sense.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lovethyEVO:
My last post may have been a bit confusing so I will clarify. When I said underclock I was referring to the practice of capping the max freq to 245 which is what most people do. If you cap the freq at 245 you are essentially underclocked all the time and would cause your cpu to work harder.

The evo underclocks automatically when the cpu load is low enough (idle for example) to save on power, reduce temps, and to basically keep the system running. But I would assume that most of us who have used setcpu have seen how lousy the evo runs when it can't scale up (locked at 245) when using the evo. The governors will underclock the cpu on their own if the device reports it does not need the higher freqs and this occurs during sleep/screen off as well.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vulf:
Ugh this is quite frustrating. Perhaps it's the current kernel I'm using that's the problem?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freeza:
Have you done testing to make sure your phone plays well with the more aggressive kernel? If using SetCPU is causing your phone to reboot then you may want to adjust your overclock, switch to the less aggressive kernel, or update to the newest netarchy SBC powered kernel; 4.3.2.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vulf:
I'm not sure how I would go testing my kernel? I mean I've been using it since yesterday morning and there haven't been any FC's/phone crashes or anything strange so I guess the aggressive HAVS works well with my phone. I'll try upgrading to 4.3.2. I'm assuming it works fine for you?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lovethyEVO:
This.

Very sound advice and yes some evos can't undervolt as well as others. Always remember too that the stock kernel for the evos use CFS. If you are using a bfs kernel that could also cause issues. Some evos run better with bfs versus cfs but it's really going to come down to the amount of time you want to put into testing and confirming what your evo likes.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freeza:
Yeah, it does. How far are you trying to overclock before your phone freezes/reboots?
[Fascinate General] Smeed:
Screwed up the title, can anyone fix that? Is anyone else unable to get animated gifs working in 2.2? I was under the impression this was a feature.
[Fascinate General] CrushD:
If you're talking about the 3DGallery playing animated gifs, then yes for me right now on the Froyo leak, animated gifs work. They also worked for me on the Eclair, as far as I'm aware it is a feature of Samsung's version of the 3DGallery. So if your ROM is using the AOSP 3DGallery, you won't have it.
[Captivate General] erickit:
I had an old cognition rom (whichever was the last 2.x ROM) and it worked great for weeks. Then after a while, I noticed my battery was dying extremely fast. After some examination, I realized the system process of kswapd0 was running an average of 25% of my CPU and heating up my phone. Worst off I was going through 100% of battery life in 2 hours instead of the normal 24.

Well I flashed 3.01 and it stopped and all was great again. I updated up to 3.03. 3.03 ran great for a week or 2. Now my battery life is starting to go down to about a 5 hour life span and guess what.... kswapd0 is already up to 10% of my total CPU useage, and I predict tomorrow will be already up to the 25% and killing my battery. I plan to flash the phone again with 3.04, but does anyone know why this happens, or if you have similar issues investigate (I use SystemPanel) and confirm this may be an issue with Froyo or maybe the lagfix. Thanks.
[Captivate General] erickit:
After flashing again KSWAPD0 is back down to 1%... wonder why this happens.
[Captivate General] crystalhand:
ya that definitely is strange.most people who flash usually do not leave a rom on there for more then a week so this problem may not happen to most people. I would recommend posting this in the cognition thread you might be able to get more help there from a dev
[Captivate General] wbkang:
Hey guys,

try this.

1. Go to terminal

2. su

3. busybox sysctl -w vm.dirty_ratio=10

(or 5)

Also set your minfree to something like strict.

Let me know if that works out for you.

EDIT: I am not a kernel hacker so I cannot provide you a correct explanation why this fixes it.

My rough non-kernel-programmer guess is that you are running a lot of apps and background services at the same time. I think this is happening because of the way Linux handles file cache but I am not entirely sure. I am hoping a kernel hacker can give me a correct answer.
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
Been loving this! Been through all the AOSP Rom’s and this is superb on all levels.

check it out.

[http://www.theultimatedroid.com/forum/index.php?/forum/32-evo/
[EVO 4G General] MrWicked1:
Have to check it tomorrow when I'm home, GPS working?
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
I beg to differ. Ever hear of MIUI? Built completely from the ground up for performance, stability, and beauty. Also, not ripped off from Cyanogen.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
also not banned from xda... ;)
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
Tried both, like this better. Full 2.3.2 gingerbread.

And, Umm this is open source no?

Credits are clearly stated,btw.

Either way...best Rom I've used.
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
Sorry, GPS is rock solid, front camera, 8M back camera, gingerbread cut and paste,which I love...and need! Superb battery even with its kernel overclocked.

[QUOTE=xxwckdxx;11140166]Have to check it tomorrow when I'm home, GPS working?
[EVO 4G General] lopezpm:
Every Ultimate Droid thread has been closed. Don't expect it to be open too long. I've tried all Evo releases of it and I like it but prefer CM. As for MIUI, I couldn't get the hang of it. It felt too much like an iphone to me.
[EVO 4G General] dfskevinohyeah:
who cares if they ripped it off cm as long as they took the time to make it better (my opinion)... how did it rip off cm anyways?, arent most roms out there ripping off the original they just tweak some things to make it a better experience?
[EVO 4G General] deathsled:
I'd be most impressed by someone if they just acted normal and didn't try to show their phone off to me lol
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
/grabs popcorn

this will be good
[EVO 4G General] brokentoaster24:
Never a fan of miui, I got android to get away from the child-like interface :p

*prepares for flames*
[EVO 4G General] starplaya93:
I can't comprehend why people don't like Miui just because the stock launcher has an "iphone feel" to it...

Don't you guys realize that there are tons of apps to replace the stock launcher, most of which are superb....

If you don't like Miui's rom then we can only assume a couple things...

1. You never heard of ADW, Launcher Pro, GO launcher or any of the other launchers and in all reality if none of those launchers fit your style then you should probably go see a therapist...

2. Miui's rom is sooooo perfect that it makes you feel inferior so you decided to find the most remote issues with it...

Not bashing anyone, just tired of seeing people say that they don't like Miui just because of the launcher. That's ridiculous.
[EVO 4G General] housry23:
Ok this Ultimate Droid Rom is fast and it works, but all it is, is a custom version of CM7. Not impressed. I will be going back to CM7. Thanks OP for showing this to me though. I will try all AOSP Rom's once. As far as the MIUI thing goes, I've tried it and didn't like it. I do like it's speed, stability and the way it looks, but there are certain things about it I didn't like. I prefer CM7. If you like MIUI then good for you, but you cannot bash anyone for not liking something that you do. If everyone in the world was the same, we would all have 1 phone, 1 Rom and 1 everything. So choice is good and if someone doesn't like MIUI because of the stock launcher then let him have his opinion. If you like then good for you and you have your opinion. Thanks.
[EVO 4G General] tomh1979:
and the best part is, CM7 now has GGGG, so i'm sticking to that, lets see any other GB rom pull off that, then we'll talk.
[EVO 4G General] looneylu:
here we go guys.... I am strictly a cm user. I just want to point out that cyanogenmod is built from source. It looks exactly like vanilla android. Cyanogen and team put a lot of work into coding and making the aosp rom experience better for us. UD looks like cyanogenmod because is also built from source. He does give credit where credit is due, from what I can see, but at the same time, he also puts in his fair share of tweaks. I also believe he builds from source as well. I don't know what happened with that developer in the past, but right now he seems to be up front about giving credit. Don't bash his rom or hard work as a developer. He may not be part of the XDA community anymore, but he is a developer nonetheless, that can probably do a lot more with android than 90% of us here. If you don't like, want to try, or want to use his rom, that is perfect. No one is forcing any of us to do so. However, don't say he rips off of cyanogen when he gives credit to cyanogen and team. Not every AOSP rom is going to look different. The only "different" AOSP rom I know of is the MIUI. They have clearly done something commendable.

/end rant
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
Wrong. Based off of cm code... not aosp.

http://www.cyanogenmod.com/home/android-soap-opera-ultimate-droid

read this.

He refused to give credit for a long time.
[EVO 4G General] gqstatus0685:
I love UD. The extra tweaks are awesome and it will most likely have 4G when the devs release it for other AOSP roms. This thread shouldn't get closed as long as it stays on topic.

If you hate/instigate gtfo. I hate seeing trolls like cheesynutz and metalhead come in and instigate an argument.
[EVO 4G General] jxr94:
It has like 3 options cm doesn't have so not worth it IMO since cm has more support and 4g working on it. Also, originals ftw.
[EVO 4G General] looneylu:
that was last year... in his new releases he does give credit... he could've been an @$$ and continued to not give credit. Question is, doesn't he deserve a second chance???

check out his thread... i see credit being given.... however, I am not one to say if he has given credit to everyone for everything he's used. IDK, but I'd rather give him the benefit of the doubt since I see credit to cyanogen and others there.

http://www.theultimatedroid.com/forum/index.php?/topic/822-the-ultimate-droid-300-beta/

not trying to start a war guys. I'll shut up now. Just my $.02
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Miui sucks monkey butt; and I will not run anyone's rom who copies and paste and doesn't give credit when it'd due. Keep your ultimate paste and have fun running it. ;-) my opinion.
[EVO 4G General] :
Where are mods when you need them?
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
I love stalkers!!

yea I'm a troll because I voice my opinion. Funny how everyone is a troll when they don't agree with you.

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G General] popular nobody:
Your sig instigates more than their comments. It's unnecessary, especially since UD used certain elements from CM, and MIUI is waiting for CM to complete 4G in order to add it to their Rom. #teamwin could be dicks about it, and say they don't have their permission to use it.

Anyway, I've remember the drama with BD and didn't respect him at all , but I do admit that UD was one of the best Roms on the market . He's starting to give more credit in his work, so maybe he's come to a realization that the way he handled things in the past were wrong. I can't get mad at that.
[EVO 4G General] Envynet:
Funny seeing as how ud was further along then cm when gingerbread was released.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
I'm sure if I took all of my work from others it would be further along also, I took so much of other people's work I shall call it ultimate ........ its alive
[EVO 4G General] Neo3D:
Started reading the forums on that ROM, sounds like it's buggy as ****.
[EVO 4G General] :
The point is if you don't like the ROM you don't have to express it for the unteenth time in every UD thread that pops up. Every UD thread that has popped up had irrelevant post from the regular trolls. You won't find a post of mines in a CM thread talking ****.

We get it. We know you don't like his ROM. We know that he copied in the past. We know that you are a troll. We know that you love your post count. We know that he now gives credit. We know that you/XDA refuses to acknowledge it. We know that you will continue ro post useless things just to get the satisfaction of seeing this thread also get closed. We know you live for drama.

Leave the thread alone and let the OP enjoy his ROM choice.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
Freedom of speech I can speak my opinion if I please. If I don't like it I can say it 1 million times. How are you gonna stop me? I can go in whatever thread I want and say I don't like your rom. What are you and your mods gonna do its my God given right to speak my opinion in person or on a forum(internet). If you want to stop me in person feel free to pm me for my address I live in Houston Texas. Thankx
[EVO 4G General] aweskelo:
Thanks OP.

To everyone baggin on UD - it's like you guys expect this to happen:

<people baggin on UD>: did you guys hear Japan attacked pearl harbor???

<everyone else>: Wow really?? thats weird because I was just in Tokyo the other day and it was pretty cool
[EVO 4G General] :
Dude are you serious? You want to get e-gangsta? You don't even know me internet tough guy.
[EVO 4G General] dirkyd3rk:
I'm no where near gangster and you don't know me :-). Like I said I can say what I please if you feel other wise ball is in your court or anyone elses. Have a great day I have to work now.
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
I wasn't trying to instigate anything. OP made a statement, so did I. It just so happens that the statement I made hinted at how shady the dev of UD is.
[EVO 4G General] Envynet:
Lets not forget how shady team douche is as well. Did you read the thread about them banning the winner of the website contest.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
Yes... yes i did. That is why i wont use any rom they put out, or is based completely off theirs.

Sure i know other devs use some of their code but thats whatever. ( I have no 4g so... that doesn't matter to me either)

And after reading what this guy did... i won't use anything he puts out either.

He refused to give credit when he started... sure he may now... but how long did that take? It still doesn't change the fact that he took it and said it was his. That leaves a bad taste..
[EVO 4G General] _MetalHead_:
Yep, that was pretty crappy of them but it has nothing to do with UD and what its dev did.
[EVO 4G General] lopezpm:
Actually you are bashing by saying the things you are saying. Its a matter of taste. If you don't like something you don't like it. That's all there is to it. Miui is may be perfect for you. Just because someone doesn't like it doesn't mean they have never heard of other launchers or that they feel inferior.
[EVO 4G General] lopezpm:
Where is this thread? I'd like to read that.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
Gone. Turned into a flaming war. Also not really related to evo in any way. I can pm you what happened.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ascrius:
Okay so here's my issue. I have been trying to root and reflash my phone for hours now but every guide I find uses a different radio than I have installed. I am using 2.42.02.10.29 and my computer fails to recognize that I have an android device connected whenever I run adb or any other program. Anyone have an idea on a quick fix?

Sorry if this is a silly question but I cant find any up to date guides for my radio anywhere and the most recent posts on the Hero are about 6 months old X)

Thank you!
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guitardoc64:
The radio version does not matter if you are trying to root. The software version does. There are plenty of guides here for all of the released SW versions, I recommend Regaw's as it worked fine for me, but that was a version or two back(2.31blahblah.5) I'm assuming you have already downloaded the SDK and installed that crappy HTC sync, which you can uninstall once you have the drivers installed. All that done, check to make sure that USB debugging is checked and follow the appropriate guide.

Good luck!
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ascrius:
yes I have the sdk and I installed and uninstalled sync already, I will look through the guides again and see if I can find another for my software version then

thanks!
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ascrius:
update: I was looking at the correct number my phone is on the the same baseband verson as the radio version. And still no root method I can find to use that Baseband. I guess I need to find a way to update the baseband so... back to the forums :o
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stayclean:
Umm, baseband is the radio.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] laie1472:
Dude the radio doesn't matter in rooting. As long as you don't flash a GSM radio you will be fine. The radio you have is compatible with Aosp roms and sense roms. When you get rooted you can even change it if you like. But read extensively on that. Real "extensively" can't express that enough. But just for getting started,your radio/baseband is fine. You can find several ways of rooting in the forums. Cdma that is.

Something.About.Me.U.Dont.Like.

Its.Cool.I.Understand.AWAH
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Fer-Shiz-Nizzle:
I'm just gonna add 1 more note. Your baseband is the most current version from sprint, and as others have said, will not affect your ability to root. The only thing that you cannot do with that baseband is flash the unrevoked forever s-off. But that is not the same as rooting.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garduno.cris:
I have the HTC Hero CDMA running AOSP 2.2.1 and i have the DecaFuct kernel flashed. It is overclocked to 806mhz with setcup.

The problem i believe i have is the speed on my 3G network. I have checked the speed in various locations, some with good coverage and some with bad coverage and this is what im getting...

7:15pm down.24mps; up.30mps

7:25pm down.96mps; up.59mps

8:04pm down.34mps; up.31mps

8:28pm down.48mps; up.47mps

8:29pm down.51mps; up.47mps

im sure this is a problem because my roomate has the backflip and is getting speeds of down3-4mps; up1-2mps

is there a way to fix this?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guitardoc64:
First, where are you? Second, your friend's backflip is on ATT. I'm guessing you have a Sprint Hero. Those speeds don't look like 3G, they look more like 1X. I should know, I finally got 3G/EVDO last week and the difference is pretty amazing. I doubt it has anything to do with ROMs, be it AOSP, CM, Sense or whatever. Ditto on the overclock. That only affects the CPU speeds and has nothing to do with network speeds.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garduno.cris:
im in Irvine, i tried it inside my apartment, outside, and down the street it was all pretty slow. so is this normal?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] impalerfamily:
Again what network is your roommates and the rom/kernal/CPU freq has nothing to do with network speed. What version is your radio(baseband), check in settings. It could be that sprint coverage isn't that great where u are.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] impalerfamily:
And also I just tested my speeds cause I was curious n mine weren't all to far from yours. Depends on server location and how many bars you have. Don't look at the numbers if you are satisfied with how your hero works that's all that matters.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garduno.cris:
my roommate is on att.

my radio is 2.42.01.04.27

the coverage maps show i have 3g coverage all over and around where i live.

i just thought i should be getting around 2-3 at least, its not the numbers that bug me its just that it takes much too long to download apps and games