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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jgalan14:
Ok so I been using tweetdeck on my PC for a while and the android app since beta came out and now I ran into a issue all the avatar/pictures aren't showing up in the timeline, I just installed cm7 nightly and I had it before but I didn't have this issue before any ideas of why aren't they showing up?
[G2 and Desire Z General] eax05:
Does any one know if there is away to defrag the phone, or its there really no need for that?

Maybe it is better to ask what is the best way to clean up your phone
[G2 and Desire Z General] G1_enthusiast:
its linux man, the way they organize their files is more efficient then window. defrag only happen in window because of the way they frag their files everywhere, so short answer no you dont need to. i dont even think you need advance task killer, because i ran my phone without it and i dont see the difference when i have advance task killer
[G2 and Desire Z General] nivlac978:
Task killers are no good. Don't use them.
[G2 and Desire Z General] martonikaj:
No need to defrag internal storage or SD card.

Why exactly are you looking to "clean up" your phone? are you running out of storage?

If you've been moving a lot of files to/from your SD card over a long period of time and you think its getting messy, you can always format your card and start over. I do this every once and a while because I am so often flashing multiple ROMs and moving things around.

As far as task killers go, if you're running Android 2.2+, there is no need for a task killer. Task killers actually hurt your battery life MORE than letting programs run in the background or stay in memory. The simplest way to put this is that not only does the task killer have to constantly run, eating battery; but also, the programs its killing are simply restarting over and over again to get done what they need to do. I use Watchdog Lite. Look it up in the Market, in the app description it will link to the web page to explain why simply monitoring for overactive programs is more productive than blanket killing every app.

I used to be a big advocate of task killers until i realized my battery was better once I stopped using them.

hope this helped;
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
Hey guys, I still have the crappy 8gb Class 2 card that came with my EVO and I actually am getting to the point where its going to run out of space. So im looking to buy something with more space.

I have decided on 32GB. Im a speed freak so I really want to get a class 10 card as well. From what I have read, Lexar, Patriot, Kingston, and Wintec all have 32GB Class 10 cards.

Wintec seems to be the cheapest but I have read some horror stories about them so I dont want to really consider them.

What would you guys recommend? Lexar is the newest one out, right? Patriot seems to support the latest specs and what not, but I have read reviews of the card causing certain phones to freeze up. I believe this is attributed to some phones relying on random access too much??? Is this not an issue for Android/EVO?

Thanks, appreciate all the help in advance.
[EVO 4G Accessories] iitreatedii:
I have a wintec 16gb class 10 for 2 months now, no horror stories...it was 30 dollars, can't beat that. Imo 32's are a waste of money, too expensive
[EVO 4G Accessories] klbjr:
I pulled the trigger on the Lexar 32GB Class 10 and couldn't be happier. Kind of pricey but I got it cheaper than what I paid for my SanDisk 16GB Class 2 a few years ago. That was when 16GB was the biggest & baddest dog on the block.

Sent from my new BFF...Evo 4G that is!
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
You guys have any speed test results numbers or anything? Speed in general improved? Battery maybe last longer? Doesn't slow down over time? I'm on my first custom flashed ROM (CyanogenMod 7 Nightly) from stock sense and I'm noticing like everything can be moved to SD. Fast with class 10? Sry I ask alot but I like to know everything I can before I buy. Thanks again.
[EVO 4G Accessories] tgruendler:
There are a couple of threads just below yours that have alot of three information you are asking for. Search FTW
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
Wow that was useful tgruendler. If you read my posts, you would realize that Ive done alot of searching and reading. The threads you are talking about dont really COMPARE the different cards to each other and say anything about longevity or recommendations. Thats what im looking for. I read/search the Android/EVO/CyanogenMod forums everyday many times. And my Google Kung Fu is fine, thank you very much.
[EVO 4G Accessories] iitreatedii:
they're both good, depends whether you want to pay 30 dollars or 90 or whatever it is 100 108 i dont remember
[EVO 4G Accessories] MsRandall:
I have a Patriot 32 gb card class 10...super fast...
[EVO 4G Accessories] SirSigma:
I've sort of wanted to get a 32GB card, but the main thing stopping me is the price. I could probably buy three or four 16GB cards for the price of a 32GB one. I could probably just buy a 16GB sometime and wait it out until the 32GB ones fall in price.
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
MsRandall and klbjr - can you PLEASE (PRETTY PLEASE) provide me with some more information on how its been so far with ur cards? and how long you have had them for. any details would be nice. anyone else feel free as well
[EVO 4G Accessories] datajosh:
I have that same card and it has an insane failure rate. I'm on my second right now, first failed after a month. Some people don't have issues so maybe I'll get lucky on this one.
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
So after even more research - its final - either the Patriot or the Lexar.

Im leaning towards Patriot. What do you guys think???
[EVO 4G Accessories] iitreatedii:
Good luck, sorry you got a bad one mines working flawless with like 15-17 read, good luck
[EVO 4G Accessories] MsRandall:
Had mine 1 week. I cant say anything bad about it...Had several Patroit cards and they have always been my favorites.
[EVO 4G Accessories] motenak:
My Patriot 32GB class 10 from Newegg ($94.99 + free shipping out of NJ) will be here today. I wanted the Lexar but I could not find one anywhere online instock.
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
Please conduct some speed tests on that card. Let me know how it goes.
[EVO 4G Accessories] crstfr:
+2 .. wintec 16gb class 10.no issues at all..... i read up about the failure rate... knock on wood.. for 27 bucks shipped.. .. worth it!

.. i'm writing at 13/ reading 18.... thats with the sd card fix~...

love~
[EVO 4G Accessories] iitreatedii:
Yupp and even if you were to have an issue, unlikely, mail it back man, that's what the warranties there for lol
[EVO 4G Accessories] mybikegoes200:
I have both a WinTec 16GB class 10 and a Patriot 32GB class 10 - both work flawlessly on my EVO. I'm with a previous poster, though - 32GB for most people is just plain overkill. I have CoPilot with US/Canada/Mexico maps on the card (about 3GB) and about 6GB of music on my 16 GB - so I've got loads to spare. Realistically, unless you have a boatload of music AND some large map files, I don't see how you could really *need* a 32GB.
[EVO 4G Accessories] klbjr:
I grabbed the Lexar 32GB Class 10 MicroSDHC from here. Check out speed test below. I've been a happy camper since I recieved mine!
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
Thanks klbjr...

Same image from http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11220254&postcount=68

But do you get those results consistently. How has it been over time? Damn im really split between these two cards.
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
Just bought Patriot card...ill let u guys know how it is
[EVO 4G Accessories] xHausx:
Well I got two cards and figured I'd test them out real quick. They where straight out of the package and I tested them using SiSoft Sandra Lite 2010 in an old Kingston USB adapter I had (to make it fair).

Both of these actually Class 6 cards but I kinda figured they would be, still faster than most others. With larger files and random writing the wintec is a lot faster than the lexar but it is likely to crash and burn much sooner.

Lexar 32GB Class 10 -- WINTEC 32GB Class 10

*Higher is better

Score (IOPS): 91.78	-- 72.8

Endurance: 96	-- 1.5

Drive Score(IOPM/Mbps): 11.471	-- 9.1

512bytes

Read: 398.63kB/s	-- 328.66kB/s

Write: 23.76kB/s	-- 22kB/s

32kB Files

Read: 11.58MB/s	-- 11MB/s

Write: 1.6MB/s	-- 1.14MB/s

256kB Files

Read: 17.65MB/s	-- 17.42MB/s

Write: 6.12MB/s	-- 5.81MB/s

2MB Files

Read: 19MB/s	-- 18.73MB/s

Write: 8MB/s	-- 10.63MB/s

64MB Files

Read: 19.2MB/s	-- 19.2MB/s

Write 9.6MB/s	-- 13.8MB/s

256MB Files

Read: 21.33MB/s	-- 21.33MB/s

Write: 8.53MB/s	-- 12.8MB/s

Repeated Sector Rewrite: 393kB/s	-- 205kB/s

Sequential Sector Write: 192kB/s	-- 182kB/s

Random Sector Write: 2kB/s	-- 109kB/s

Total Size : 29.8GB

Free Space : 29.66GB, 100%

Cluster Size : 32kB
[EVO 4G Accessories] abrigo74:
Are either of these cards any good?

http://www.buy.com/prod/topram-32gb...sd/q/sellerid/20451128/loc/101/216378751.html

http://www.amazon.com/Komputerbay-MicroSD-Microsdhc-Adapter-Reader/dp/B003ZTEEHI
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
Ambrigo...Thx for the no name cards that aren't class 10. Really added to the convoy lol. /s
[EVO 4G Accessories] klbjr:
Well those results were taken using my computer. Don't know if the card would perform the same while actually in the phone. It has held up pretty good so far. Granted I've only had it maybe a week. I'll start doing some random tests periodically but it has been running smooth so far. No problems that I can tell.

Sent from my new BFF...Evo 4G that is!
[EVO 4G Accessories] subcypher:
I posted images somewhere showing that the numbers were different when the card was placed in the phone even after doing the "fix" for sdhc card speed. My read/write capped out at ~12.
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
Got some more details? Maybe a link?
[EVO 4G Accessories] tgruendler:
Your an arrogant son of a gun
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
Lol I know bro. None of those cards were class 10 so I pulled out the sarcasm bag.
[EVO 4G Accessories] motenak:
The lowest speed I've gotten using the SD Card Speed Test from the Market on my new 32GB Patriot is 10 MB/s write and 15 MB/s read. That is using the SD card speed fix and DarkTremor A2SD. I've seen it go as high as 14/19 which is funny because the app reports the card as Class UNKNOWN. No complaints so far but haven't had it very long.
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
Thx man I can't wait until mine comes in. U recommend the a2sd darktremmor approach? What are the benefits? Got any links to threads that explain it?
[EVO 4G Accessories] MsRandall:
The lowest speed I have ever gotten with my Patroit 32gb class 10 card in my evo...
[EVO 4G Accessories] kaw900r:
Lexar 32gb class 10

8mb write & 16mb read class unknown. :cool:
[EVO 4G Accessories] Subiegsr:
ahhh, Provantage says "in progress" for two days now!:(
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
Yayyy it came in. results later
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
FAST!!!

Love this card. So far so good :) Recommend it to everyone
[EVO 4G Accessories] phillysdon04:
I bought a Kingston 32gd class 4 card and it works fine.

Sent from my Evo
[EVO 4G Accessories] mikeinghilterra:
Based on my own experience I would stay away from Kingston's MicroSD's for your EVO. I have purchase the class 10 16gb as well as the class 4 32gb and both seem to fall short. I believe there was an article when the EVO first came out about performance issues with Kingston MircoSD memory and the EVO. I have read some good things about Patriot flash memory - you might want to take a look at their stuff.

If you are glutton for punishment I will happily sell you either or both of my 16 or 32 GB cards for 1/2 of what i paid for them.
[EVO 4G Accessories] phillysdon04:
I had issues at first were my pictures couldn't show & etc. After doing some research, I found out that I had to reformat the card in the phone and that fixed my issues.

Sent from my Evo
[EVO 4G Accessories] minieod:
for those of you with the wintec 16gb class 10:

i JUST got mine today from newegg.... i think its pretty ****ty so far.... but maybe im doing something wrong?

first thing i did was put copy everything from my stock card to my computer to a new folder.

then i put the wintec in the phone and formatted and partitioned it in amon_ra recovery 2.3

then i proceeded to put the files from the computer onto the card, then all hell broke loose....it stopped after a few minutes with I/O errors .... it locked my system up, it wouldnt show on my computer...

i rebooted my phone and tried the process again, reformat, and put stuff on... i ogt everything on the card this time, but it was so unresponsive...my phone was barely moving and responding to anything and eventually stopped turning on the screen

i put the stock card back in, and everything is 100% fine.... i have been trying more to get this card to work...but for the life of me i cant figure it out

what did you guys do?
[EVO 4G Accessories] minieod:
when you say they "fall short" do you mean just slower than advertised speeds....or not working?

if its just a little slower than advertised (but still faster than stock), and actually 16gb, ill take you up on your offer ASAP
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
lesson learned....dont go cheap on memory
[EVO 4G Accessories] bigdaddie:
Yep I had a Wintec 32GB class 10. It tested as a class 6 and after about 30 days of use, it crashed. NewEgg took it back. I am now looking for a good deal on a Patriot as the Lexar is unavailable.

Yes, going cheap on memory is like buying a cheap artificial heart: which you will get with Obamacare....

BD
[EVO 4G Accessories] dave0704:
I went this route since the price difference between 16 and 32 and quite an increase. Prices are coming down slowly though.
[EVO 4G Accessories] 360hype:
16 or 32? Hmmm...

I guess I will just wait a little longer then LOL :p
[EVO 4G Accessories] ncadden:
So happy I found this thread, btw.

I just decided I'm in the market to upgrade my SD card from the standard one that came with the EVO & was also deciding between the Patriot & the Lexar, but I think I'm going to go with the Patriot.

Where did you order yours from? Also, what's this fix everybody's talking about with the SDHC?

I'm running Fresh, which I believe already has apps2d installed on it, would I be looking to take that off & change to the Dark Tremor one?

I just want to make sure I do everything right with it &, while I want to actually upgrade now, since I'm a CPA, & it's the beginning of March, my time to actually research the things I used to be able to research with respect to my phone has been sliced & diced.

TIA.
[EVO 4G Accessories] phillysdon04:
Now I'm having the same issues that I had before I reformatted the card. I guess after I use a certain amount of memory, the card doesn't read right.
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
I got mine from New Egg
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
And I'm using cm7 so the sd card is built in. most custom roms should have it. Just changing a value in a file is all the fix is
[EVO 4G Accessories] DarkManX4lf:
Unless you really need more space now buy now...otherwise just wait...prices drop for flash memory pretty quick.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ncadden:
Which app are you guys using to test your speed?

After thinking it over some, I can't see spending $100 for the 32gb SD card, when the 16GB ones are anywhere from $30-$40. But I've also been able to keep my OEM 8GB SD card at around 3GB free since I purchased the phone last year.
[EVO 4G Accessories] overclockxp:
See attached for the apk.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Offbyone:
I have a 32GB Class 10 Wintec for about 4 months now with no issues what so ever. I figured even if it fails, you can't argue a lifetime warranty.

Write: 11MB/s

Read: 16MB/s

Measures indicate your card is a Class 10 Card.

I also have 2GB EXT3 partition on the card for DT's A2SD with no problems.

EVO 4G CM7 Nightly #12
[EVO 4G Accessories] SirSigma:
I ordered some 32GB card from Amazon for 72 dollars, and it'll be here Wednesday.

I'm glad I waited, actually.
[EVO 4G Accessories] 400milliliters:
Imo 32's are a waste of money, too expensive

Hmmm. I wouldn't say they're a waste of money If you have a ton of music and videos etc..then I'd say you're getting bang for your buck. I used to use an iphone 32GB and had it maxed out with maybe 250 MB to spare. Now that I've switched to Androind HTC Evo that lack of 32 GB is making me itch.. they are mad expensive, though.
[EVO 4G Accessories] 400milliliters:
Lexar is quality and longevity. I use that brand for Sony PSP hacking stuff and they never fail.
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
A little late there on the reply. Got the patriot and loving it. Using a card for "hacking stuff" doesn't make it any better then any other card
[EVO 4G Accessories] flight01:
Dont want to burst anyone's bubble but anything over a class 4 or maybe even 6 is not recomended.

I had a long talk with some htc techs and the evo does not even have the ability to take full advantage of anything higher then that. They said save your money dont worry about class and just get what u need for storage space.

So i'm putting down $35 bucks and just picking up a 32gb micro class 4.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Flo95:
Look at the screenshots from the sd speed tests, it can write and read with class10 speeds ;)
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
Yea...Sprint will reply regarding its stock ROM which has a limit regarding the SD card... do a search on the SD card speed fix. I use CM 7 which already has the SD speed fix cooked in by default. I dont listen to Sprint/HTC when it comes to my phone. Plus, its good to have Class 10 SD 3.0 Spec Card for the future. And no, people saying 32 GB is too much space is the dumbest **** i ever heard.
[EVO 4G Accessories] 400milliliters:
That was more a reply on reliability of the card. "Hacker stuff" was not to say its better than another brand rather that since I use it for that purpose I'm running a ton o stuff off of it and its yet to fail.

sent from EVO with tapatalko
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
You use it for a PSP so that is a fail in general. Charlie Sheen would be very disappointed in you. Join the winning team (not to be confused with TeamWin) and get a Patriot card.
[EVO 4G Accessories] 400milliliters:
Lol.you're funny. PSP is a hard win. They're great for emulators. I just got a 32 GB Lexar class 10 for my EVO. Patriot cards are garbo. Lolz

sent from my Evooh-yeah!
[EVO 4G Accessories] zillanilla:
Can we get some more info on this tho?
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
The EVO definitely CAN utilize higher card speeds. Do not listen to the garbage you hear from anyone else...
[EVO 4G Accessories] zillanilla:
I agree, but for 35 beans...I'd give it a spin!
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
My computer and evo are great for emulators. And I like to be Link's Navi when it comes to Nintendo loyalty if you know what I mean ;)

Lexar is dog doo doo
[EVO 4G Accessories] mutant13:
you can take full advantage of class 10....

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1012721
[EVO 4G Accessories] ycats:
Anybody buy one of these lately? (Lexar 32gb Class10) Just wanted some more input/performance before I pull the trigger.
[EVO 4G Accessories] gpz1100:
I got a lexar 32gb about a bit over a month ago. The first one worked great for about 4 weeks, then I started getting data corruption. Reformatted, copied data back, lasted 3 days. Now mind you, I always shut the phone down properly.

Rma'd it, got the replacement. Lasted all of 2 days before file corruption began again.

Lexar insisted I send my old one back before the send a replacement out. Fine. This ordeal took nearly 10 calendar days. During this time I had the stock sandisk 8gb class4 card. The data copied to the lexar is identical to that which was on the sandisk. Only difference is, I had no corruption what so ever with the sandisk.

Will be contacting lexar on monday to get a refund. I'm done messing with this. Don't have the time to deal with corrupted files and the headaches of transferring data back and forth.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ycats:
thanks for the input, I don't want to pay approx $100 for it and then lose all my data..........I'll wait.
[EVO 4G Accessories] tkdkicker04:
where did you purchase the class 10 from?
[EVO 4G Accessories] gpz1100:
I don't know what sense to make of this.

Spoke with lexar this morning. Their tech support now says the evo doesn't support class 10 cards, which is what might be causing the corruption.

I don't buy this entirely. If it wasn't supported, it wouldn't work for 3 weeks (first card), or 2 days (2nd card), but rather there would be signs of failure right away. My guess is something about their particular card model is not compatible with this device. I've seen this before with computer components. Certain memory just won't work with certain boards, and results in system instability. Requested to have my purchase refunded since i'm past the reseller's 30 day return window. The level 2 tech said he'd get back to me. Not sure exactly how that will be handled. I have had other manufacturers in the past issue refunds in unusual circumstances, so it's definitely within the realm of possibilities.

FWIW, I call Provantage, the reseller I got the card from. Described my issue and explained I need the card to be reliable and consistent. The CSR was very understanding, went ahead and issued the rma even though i'm 3+ weeks after their return window. Even provided a ups return label. That's what I call service!

I'd still like to get a reliable 32GB (or at least 16GB card in there)..
[EVO 4G Accessories] aph:
I've had only good experiences with Provantage as well. Never heard of them but pulled the trigger on a few items from them and they always arrived much quicker than expected.

If you ever have any issues with returning after a 30-day window, you can always do a chargeback with your card's bank. Just provide documentation of the multiple returns and that will be enough proof to get your money back.

I don't believe their line that the Evo doesn't support Class 10 cards either, as my Wintec 16gb Class 10 has been working fine for months.
[EVO 4G Accessories] issafram:
The EVO DOES support class 10 cards. BUT the read ahead value must be changed to utilize the speeedz!!! ya boi!
[EVO 4G Accessories] XperiaX1a:
I'm in the same boat as you, bought a 16GB class 2 sandisk card around dec 2008 now I have the Lexar 32GB class 10. Now when I did some speed tests with both cards, suprisingly they have the same results. 20MB/s read and 10MB/s write, seems like sandisk labeled it a class 2 but maybe it is a class 10 in disguise?
[EVO 4G Accessories] cityneversleepz:
Is there anyway you would be able to give a step by step what you did to switch your old sd card to the lexar? I pulled the trigger yesterday and got it too. Unfortunately, I am not having any luck getting my evo to recognize it.
[EVO 4G Accessories] keejung:
on a side note for the lexar card, it comes with a "media management" program preinstalled on the card.... i was wondering if this could be erased, or if this is what is messing people up?
[EVO 4G Accessories] Flo95:
Hey,

has someone a Lexar 32GB class10 mircoSDHC for some time? (It's longer available in the US than here in Germany). And how are the speeds in the phone? Does it write @ 10+MB/s and read @ 20+MB/s?

And is it fast in everyday use? My Kingmax 16GB class10 laggs sometimes in Astro or 3D Gallery...

And is it "safe"? Sometimes when I take a pic the file is corrupted, 1 of 20+ pics or so, and once I couldn't open another pic. Has the Lexar the same little problem?

Or do you recommend another 32GB class10?

Thanks
[EVO 4G Accessories] nivron:
A friend of mine had the Lexar 32GB card and it wears corrupting files. His replacement did the same thing. That's enough to convince me not to consider it.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Flo95:
Ok, thanks.

Because of that and because the Lexar is outsold everywhere here I'll pay 10-15€ more and get the Patriot 32GB class10, should be also the faster card. At least I read it while searching which one is the better one.

And hopefully it won't have data corruption.

I'll give you a "thanks" when I'm at my computer.