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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skinnyaznkid:
I actually read that the Vibrant/Galaxy S 4G will have the FFC. But it isn't confirmed yet.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/12/samsung-vibrant-4g-appears-in-leaked-docs-touts-21mbps-hspa-ca/
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephiK:
we said this... a long time ago
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Anderdroid:
I also want to further say that the Tegra2 isn't a worthy upgrade to a Hummingbird.

The Hummingbird has a better GPU and the Tegra2 phones will be on Froyo (not proper dual core optimization) for a long time. If you really want a dual core, wait for the Orion or dual snapdragon, whenever that comes. Or Tegra3, Lol. Hummingbird on Gingerbread could outperform Tegra2 on Froyo!

Lastly I feel like the Nexus One feels cheap, and the Nexus S is solid. The Vibrant is actually not as solid as the Nexus S. The Vibrant kindof feels cheap but the plastic still feels slick, but it can creak sometimes which bothers me. My Nexus S never creaks.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr.orange303:
Tegra 2 is ok. But the orion will be out later.

Honestly if I can just get my sinal problems corrected the vibrant would rock.

That sounds like the nexus for me. Wife wants vb4g.

However I have seen a vb4g running 2.3 online. That intrigues me.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j.bruha:
Alright, let me rephrase so that my frustrated post sounds a bit more sane now that I'm not as mad about it right now.

I LOVE the Galaxy S line and the Nexus S for the hardware, (4" AMOLED, Hummingbird, thin body) TouchWiz or not.

I HATE the Galaxy S line and the Nexus S because they they are almost ALL made out of cheap plastic that gets dinged up even when you're exceptionally careful when handling it.

I am now on my 3rd Nexus S in part because each of the ones I've owned developed scratches on the screen despite always being handled carefully and always being kept in some pouch or another, and in pockets without anything else in them. I've already given up on the back cover since that started showing tiny scratches almost instantly.

In this regard, Samsung is entirely like Apple; they build devices out of materials that will get scratched almost instantly so you'll want to buy the next version of the product when it comes out just because the one you have looks like it was run over by a car.

In contract, my Nexus One is chilling on my desk, has been treated much worse than my Nexus S for over a year, and STILL has yet to develop a scratch anywhere on it.

Although there are many other reasons, this is why I don't recommend Samsung to anyone and I wish Google had partnered up with HTC again to make the next Nexus.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr.orange303:
But the vibrant has gorilla glass and ive never used a screen protector. No scratches. I got it day one
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephiK:
j.bruha: If you are have such a hatred on Samsung. Then why are you on a forum that is a Samsung phone and trying to start a war with everybody?

Jeez. If you don't like it then just don't be in this forum, no one here appreciates your criticism on how we spent a 2 year contract or $500+ for a "cheap plastic" phone. The back is plastic, sure... but whats inside isn't cheaply built.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iseedeadpeople:
off topic this is my first android phone and samsung phone.. im an htc guy but i feel like if i want to do this android thing i got to do it right and get a pure google phone, question why did google stray awayed from htc? dont get me wrong i love the android and a believer
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j.bruha:
Who's starting a war? We're in this together, champ. I'm certainly not criticizing anyone for dropping that kinda cash on this phone since I did the same myself, and if you took offense to it, then you need to reread my post. Don't take it as a personal attack just because someone has a different opinion than you.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] STHNS:
LOL I can't believe I just read 5 pages of this BS. Also far as the Samsung thing goes its not about hate as stated this is about actual facts which Samsung has tendency of dropping support.

Hence they FORCEFULLY delayed the OTA update on Vibrant? so they can sell so called "new" Vibrant 4G but hey they had to go step future and suggest it was capable of 21mbps highest on HSPA+ v1 they didn't officially say user would get this but they "implyed" to folks who don't understand basic network provision or currently aware of the real mobile network world.

Technically I would not buy NS/V4G as they are both inferior device but hell ill pick NS before V4G as its just waste of money which is just adding much necessary upgrade and calling it another device and selling it for 2nd around as first wave of failure was achieved by Samsung. Thats just my 2cents there after reading all this had to post it.

lol @ 21mbps on TMoUS HSPA+ now. You be lucky if you see 7mbps much less 21mbps.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
Now see, this is a shining example of destructive rather than constructive. First of all, the rumor that they were holding back the 2.2 update for Vibrant pretty much got quashed when they...released it because it defeats the purpose of holding it back if gets released before the 4G. As for them being "inferior devices"? That's a claim I'd love to see backed up. There is not another smartphone on the market that can even come close to their performance. When Tegra2 phones hit, then they might be outmatched but considering my Nexus S consistently scores around 4k on Quadrant without the 3D test (its still not fixed for gingerbread) and the Atrix in its demonstrations only scored 2.6k I'm not yet convinced they'll be all that more powerful. If you were referring to your MT4G as being the "superior device" I'd really love to see the facts backing that up.

As for network speeds, coming from Sprint and having had a 4G phone (however, I only ever got to use its 4G on one occasion) I can honestly say that in every aspect the network on Tmo is faster. The best part is that when I hit HSPA, I don't have to turn it on and run another radio. With 4G on, my Epic died in 6 hours from a full charge but the Nexus S doesn't even drop below 40% most days for me no matter how hard I run it. I've used most of the superphones on the market now and I can say without a doubt the Nexus S is the best of the pact.

Sure, it feels a little plasticky but its doesn't feel flimsy like the Epic did and getting updates straight from El Goog means that I'm done with Samsung, which is another bonus (as their product support is just abysmal).

Finally, if you didn't want to read the 'five pages of this bs' then why did you? Did someone hold a gun to your head and force you to? Gosh that must have been terrifying. I'm surprised they let you post with such freedom and that you're taking your situation so lightly as to be able to laugh, but I suppose people deal with the stress of an attacker forcing them to do something mundane and ridiculous differently, right?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
If you don't feed trolls, they tend to go away...;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] STHNS:
Someone is PMSing also show me 4000 QBenchmark on your end please. Who achieved 4000? go ahead and do it and post me the SS here. You have that much faith in your inferior Hummingbird S5PC110? You might want to look me up on extreme overclocking forum before you continue. lol I laughed when you said not a single smartphone can match its performance.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demo23019:
No way im all set with iphone like updates...this **** should have been in previous vibrant
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr.orange303:
The iphone uses the

Hummingbird. Os optimization for the chip set matters.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr.orange303:
Yeah. Im looking at waiting. Sux. Vibrant = beautiful phone. No signal.

I need better.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
Sure, I'll post a couple links to the thread about the kernel I've been running. Just a few.

On Trinity 1.5GHz kernel:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10847511&postcount=778

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10826473&postcount=717

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10848441&postcount=780

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10820210&postcount=699

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10805651&postcount=663

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10784057&postcount=640

On the 1.4GHz variation of the same Kernel just for posterity:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10763928&postcount=583

Oh and I'm really not a fan of quadrant as it doesn't give a very good view of how a device performs in the real world but here is a smartbench that I literally just ran while I was copy-pasting those links:

Now lets see how well the MT4G can perform =D

~~Edit~~

I see you edited your little attempt at proving me wrong and I stand by my statement. I have used most every one of the "superphones" on the US market today and none of them even come close to matching this kind of performance. Go have a nice day on your MT4G!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demo23019:
you already have a vibrant you know how samsung is with updates and how hallfass tmobile is with pushing them to customers...get a nexus we already have 2.3.2 and CyanogenMod 7/nightly and modaco ROMS and soon 2.4 ;)

of wait for new dualcore phones like the LG star but still have to remember the whole update process...i like Google exclusive update that the main reason i got a NS and sold my vibrant. The only thing i miss is the video codecs but this phone is so much faster than a vibrant even more so on CyanogenMod 7 nightly im loving it I get new ROM updates every night :D
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
OK people cut the crap, and get back on topic

any further comments that are out of line, will result in an Auto Nuke

Thank you & have a nice stay at the XDA lounge
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BrianDigital:
Between the two, get the nexus s. the phone comes stock andoid, which many people will spend many hours trying to achieve by removing all the bloatware from other phones

If your a big gamer on your phone maybe you should wait. I for one am not so its not a big deal that all this dual cores are on the horizon
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
No need to get them....just do vibrant ffc mod....its easy.

At this stage I would take Vibrant with Nero with touchwiz vs NS......u get so much more with TW
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
Thats a matter of opinion. I would never use another TouchWiz device because I despised it and thought it looked clunky and ugly.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr.orange303:
I didnt ask about the mod. Im upgrading. I dont want to mod. My choice.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
Just curious, what exactly don't u like about TW ? Its just when I ask someone this question, I never get an answer......
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
Is 'Everything' a valid answer? The theme, the battery full popup, the lockscreen, the App list, the launcher, the widgets (the pink social network box, the terrible task manager, etc), and the added samsung apps(allshare, media hub, etc). I can't think of anything else specific to TouchWiz but I can assure you that I hate it also. There was not a single thing in TouchWiz that I liked.

EDIT:

Oh, I thought of something that didn't really strike me one way or the other: power controls in the notification drop down. I never use them but I didn't specifically hate them.

EDIT 2:

You're as much entitled to your opinion of liking it as I am to mine of hating it. For reference, I'm also not a fan of HTC's SenseUI but I at least admire that it doesn't look like a mashup of horrible colors.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
Nero doesn't have any thing u listed.......no launcher, no apps, no battery pop up, zero Samsung wigets (only all stock widgets), and full gingerbread theme..

Do u hate music player with surround sound and eq support, or video player with full divx and xvid, full featured camera, 720p recording, tv out, extra options in settings, drop down menus for dailer, switches, and music player.....do u hate better email client with much more features and much nicer sms client ? Or 4 different lock screens, including stock.....

Edit: built-in Facebook and tweeter are also nice, ability to change os fonts, and mobile access point.....don't know if NS has this
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
For music, I have a 32GB iTouch, for Video I have a 42" 1080p 120Hz TV and a PS3, for pictures I have 12MP camera which does video as well...I prefer the stock gmail client and Handcent to anything else and I much prefer the pattern lock screen on stock. Look man, the sarcasm in your response really isn't necessary. You asked what I disliked and I told you. I had an Epic 4G for 5 months and I hated it everything about it. If you don't, then that's your opinion. I much prefer my phone to run CyanogenMod7 or stock to any manufacturer UI. I'm not attacking "nero rom" or whatever, I've never even seen it but I have seen TouchWiz and I found nothing in it to be "useful" or "nice". Not a single damn thing.

EDIT: I don't use facebook or twitter, you can change the OS font on any rooted phone, and if by "mobile access point" you mean wireless tethering, this is also usable on any rooted Android device.

Oh, and once VLC comes to android there will be no need for silly samsung video players.

Once again, however it comes down to opinion, man. I would never buy another Samsung supported product again because of the horrible user interface and the horrible end-user support. If others like the way a different product looks and works and they want it then they can disregard my opinion but for someone asking for an opinion, this is mine: Don't buy Samsung Galaxy S phones.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j.bruha:
I think you should read up on Nero and then come back to edit your post. I agree with hating on TouchWiz, but that's why I installed an AOSP ROM on the Vibrant I used for a few weeks. I'm pretty sure that's the point kolyan was trying to make.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
Tw does have stock gmail....

Let me put it this way.....stock tw does suck, nero tw is much better then stock android. It looks exactly like stock gingerbread and yet has all the features. Why do u think there are so many thread on how do I port this and that from tw...even cm7 has some ported tw features.

I don't know how this works....but tw also have power saving mode that analyzes images on lcd to reduce brightness and gps sensor aiding option that also saves battery when gps is in use....and font changing is built-in settings, don't need any extra crap.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
I have no intention of reading up on a different ROM. I use and love CyanogenMod7 and it already does everything I need or want it to do. That's why I donate to them and reading about a ROM for another phone will not change my opinion about these things, I've been very clear about the features addressed and why I don't need or want them.

Yes, most roms include stock Gmail, my point was that I don't use other email apps because I like the Gmail app so whether or not "nero rom" has a better email app is irrelevant. Again, "better" is a completely subjective term. I theme stock gingerbread because I dislike green and orange. A lot of people also like MIUI and they will easily argue with you for days about how its the best ROM. Hell, there is even a forum at miui-dev.com full of threads asking to have it ported. That doesn't make it better or worse. If you like Nero Rom, then buy a Vibrant and use it. Great. I prefer to use AOSP and get my updates from Google so I bought a Nexus S. Two actually, one for me and one for my wife. Its all opinions.

I'm not bashing this rom or that rom, I'm giving my opinion. If you disagree with that opinion, then bully for you but its not going to change my opinion nor should you take it upon yourself to change anyone else's opinion.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
I understand that everyone has his/her our opinion, but i am just trying to understand....

so you dont use: stock sms (because it sucks), music player, video player, camera for pictures and videos, facebook, and tweeter......than may i ask....what do you like about CM7 ? It seems to me that there are a lot of useless applications for you in stock OS, and moreover, you need to download extra apps to get functionality of TouchWiz (font changer, wireless AP...etc) Since both ROMs look exactly the same....and most apps are better in Touchwiz (not that it matters since you dont use them), again...what do you like about CM ?

ps. i donated CM a long time ago too.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
But that is the thing; CM7 and stock both come without any added bloat and I can uninstall anything I don't want (something you can do on all custom roms, of course). I occasionally use the camera but its usually just to take a quick picture of something funny or interesting or whatnot but I've done that...three times in the last six months? Also, I don't change the font nor do I tether so I don't need to download extra apps. I use my phone for calls, texts, email, and mobile browsing. I have a few games on it but that is mostly for time killing (I play a lot of Pocket Legends while I'm out shopping with my wife lol). Oh, and mobile banking. I'm a huge fan of being able to transfer money, deposit check, etc from my phone. Love that. Also, navigation. On my phone I really only have XDA, Engadget, NFL Gamecenter, a few games, my banking app, a few benchmarks, ROM manager, and ShootMe.

Sometimes at the gym I watch movies on my iTouch but I much prefer VLC to what I had on the Epic and I usually don't have my phone on my while I'm working out anyways, just my iTouch.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
well then i would say both roms look and function the same for your needs....Nero doesn't have any bloatware, touchwiz launcher, etc....

well except for "old tv" screen off animation....that hasn't been ported yet.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
I will admit to loving that screen off. The reason it can't be ported is that its not there is no way for 2.2 to call for a screen on/off animation.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
I, like I am sure most people, prefer to have extra features....i am not a big fan of facebook and tweeter, but i do use them...i use tweeter for work and facebook to sync pictures with my friends...like to read updates too. I use music player to play tracks in car via bluetooth (TW by the way has the best music player...I tried all of them in market and TW beats them ALL), sometimes use video player to show my friends my vids, i use camera for fun mostly, and do enjoy 720p video recording when i am skiing in Alps. I dont use gmail, therefore, i like having better exchange mail app built-in. I hate stock android font so i changed that.....TW launcher sucks, but so does stock Android launcher.....I use LauncherPro Plus.

I also like the fact that Vibrant w/ TW has support for docking in car and home....and possible media dock soon (dont use car or home docks, but would like to see that media dock).....Wifi calling is also nice...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
ooo You guys got the wifi calling app? That is one thing I would like.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
Yep. We do. Will be using it for the first time in a few weeks.....Calling from Switzerland back to USA for free :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
Nice. Lucky you. I hope we can port something like that though I'm not sure why it wouldn't be included...aside from the fact that I don't think tmobile even touches these phones. When I try to access the My Account app it tells me it can't recognize my device so that is not a happy sign lol
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] miggyV:
I am in the market for a new smartphone since selling my MyTouch4G. I am salivating over the Nexus S, but have read about the Vibrant 4G. I am crazy to wait for this one to come out?

Nexus S Pros:

2.3

No bloatware

Awesome GPS

Nexus S Cons:

Cannot handle 4G

512mb memory

Cannot install microSD

Vibrant 4G Pros:

Updated FFC

4G

Vibrant 4G Cons:

Bloatware

Will be released w/ 2.2 (some Vibrant users have not received 2.2 yet; lack of faith in development from Samsung)

Am I missing anything to make an informed decision here?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kennyp987:
Both are not as good as the mt4g that's a downgrade

MT4G + Evil D's MIUI
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] irishrally:
Do you live in a good 4G area? Ah, I don't care, Nexus S all the way. Another Pro for NS is that you will get Ice Cream Sandwich way before anyone else. Vibrant 4G will most likely never get ICS, at least in the states.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demo23019:
both phones have 512 ram

And im sure GPS has been straightened out on the 4G

samsung/tmobile updates suck you have better luck with leaked roms also would not expect 2.3 for vibrant/4g they will be focusing more on the galaxys2 line of phones

Also lack of micro SD sucks but coming from a vibrant myself i haven't had and issues with the switch. But then again NS lacks 720P record and lacks codecs so i dont have all the 720P movies taking up space

Do you have 4g coverage were you live?

Also bloatware is easy to remove

Id wait month or so for new dual core phones "LG Optimus X2 / Galaxy S 2"

BTW asking what phone is better in a NS subforum you should know what people are going to favor ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demo23019:
Off topic but think found first pic of galaxy S 2

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_2-3621.php
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
and you mentioned the most scary part of buying Samsung own releases

yes their hardware and multimedia support are awesome

but their OS upgrades.... takes an eternity

make sure you buy it with the latest release, as you are like to get stuck with that same version of the OS until it dies
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] miggyV:
Haha...being a MT4G owner previously, I'm just looking for a new toy and need that extra inspiration to make a decision. :)))
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr.orange303:
Actually I found it. The htc pyramid. F the rest.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] K9Healer:
The grass will alway look greener...no matter where you turn.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan562:
Im glad I sold my mytouch4g. Poor battery life,physical home button getting stuck,screen sucks v. Samoled.to each his own
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
V4G with custom ROM (I assume V4G has the same specs as V3G, but with 4G and FFC)

NS Cons: No Gorilla glass, no bluetooth 3.0, no 4G, no 720p, no TV-out, no native divx/xvid support.....
[Android Apps and Games] userjf:
WalletAR is an app that stores credit card, drivers license, etc... except it allows you to store images of them (have a copy of all your cards in case of theft, use your grocery store membership barcode from your phone, whatever).

WalletAR is the ONLY program I can find that really does this, but it is failry new 50-100 downloads. I would like some more feedback about it before I purchase it $0.99 and trust it.

Does anyone know anything about it?

http://www.wix.com/pankitp/walletar
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] archie53:
Just got a Vibrant as a warrantly replacement for a MyTouch Slide which I had rooted running CM6 and loved it but went another way since they offered me this instead. Heres my question, I'm gonna root and want to know the most stable kernal with the lagfix or if there is a Rom that has it all built in already? Thanks in advance.