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[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisjochoa:
I installed Streakdroid 1.6.0. but my Quadrant is only 1.5K

do I need to do something else after I install 1.6.0?

please help
[Omnia II General] ShivyX1:
Hello,

I used Tomtom 6 VGA on a WVGA Xperia, but had a WVGA>VGA fix program to reduce the display area.

Tomtom worked very well.

Now passed on to the OmniaPro B7610 and Omnia 2 I8000 and the WVGA>VGA fix software does not work anymore, the Omnia goes back to WVGA after I asked to be reduced to VGA.

Does anyone knows of a WVGA>VGA fix software for Omina mobiles , plz ?

Thank you
[Omnia II General] VOODOOS!L:
you better find another build of the tomtom cab, the version 7 exists for WVGA devices so you don't have to switch your display settings, and you can use all space on your screen ;)
[Omnia II General] ShivyX1:
Thank you. I understand there are other versions.

But I already own this Tomtom and did not want to buy another one.

In case the WVGA > VGA tweak program exist I could make use of it.
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
I keep seeing posts where people call this thing a developer phone. It is not a "developer" phone, and I wish people would stop calling it one. ;)

From Google's official android developer's site (take note of the parts I've put in italics and bold):

They wouldn't say "or a Nexus S" in the same sentence as developer phone if it were a developer phone, but the stronger argument that it's not a "developer phone" is the fact that you don't have to have a developer account on the Android Market to buy one.

People usually call it a developer phone while making excuses for buggy android software and other glitches. This is a disservice to all users and lets Google off the hook for all the major glitches in the Gingerbread just a bit more easily than they deserve.

The Nexus S is sold to the public at large, at the largest big box consumer electronics store in the US and marketed as the most advanced phone you can get. No mention of "developer" in any advertising, talking points, or Google literature on the phone that I've ever seen.

Even the Nexus One wasn't a developer phone until they stopped trying to change the phone industry by selling direct to the public via the web. Check Google's blog from last August.

The only thing even remotely developer-ish on the NS is the easily unlocked bootloader...but that doesn't make it one.

/rant off

:D
[Nexus S General] meetagrawal:
Agreed.
[Nexus S General] fchipm:
True that it's not officially called a dev phone (isn't the N1 still the only one?)

But honestly, who cares what people call it? Dev phone or not, the GB glitches and bugs suck. Even if it was officially a Developer Phone, isn't a dev phone a phone people are supposed to develop and test their apps on? Not be guinea pigs for the OS itself...
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
Right on the guinea pigs part. Gingerbread could have used a bit more beta testing in my opinion.

I don't have a dev account, so I don't know what the official list is, but I do know the Nexus S isn't the only one. I imagine there are many models; the developer phones are unlocked sims and unlocked bootloaders so devs can buy one and use on any network to test their apps without being forced to a certain carrier, which would turn some devs off.

My issue with people calling it one around here is that way too many people are quick to dismiss other people's (legitimate) complaints about the phone and Gingerbread with something along the lines of the two following remarks:

"It's a developer phone, you should expect bugs..."

"It's a Nexus phone, you're on the bleeding edge of the OS and you should expect bugs..."

Personally, I don't mind most of the quirks on the phone (the reboot during a call and the sudden loss of data are my only real complaints), but on a $600 (after taxes) phone that my mother could walk into Best Buy and purchase, I expect the thing to be solid enough for consumers and a bit more polished.

Though in fairness to the NS, I think most android phones have plenty of quirks, and to be fair to android in general, most versions of iOS do as well.
[Nexus S General] sstang2006:
Yes it is true, nexus s is not a developers phone.

What is weird is that the nexus one aka "developers phone" still doesn't have android 2.3 after 7 weeks. I wonder on which phone gingerbread was developed and tested then. I also wonder, how are they going to test NFC on android 2.3+ on a nexus one... hhmm and also wonder how are they going to test video chat on google's Talk app (rumors says it is coming) on the nexus one... I also wonder how the game optimization done on gingerbread could be developed on a non-multi-touch developers phone... I'm confused :confused:
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
This topic has already been talked to death. Why open another thread just to rant, man? Get off your semantics soap box and give it up.
[Nexus S General] leyvatron:
Nexus one wasn't a dev phone either... at first it was just another phone. Then became a dev phone and sold as a "official dev phone" for testing.

With time... the nexus s will also become a dev phone too.

And yes... this subject is getting old...

Google updates, No bloatware, stock hotspot and tethering, etc.. etc..

not official dev... but it taste, looks, and acts like dev.
[Nexus S General] :
I don't think they'll turn the NS into a dev phone, it might not even be a phone, It'll be ADD instead. (device)

What's gonna be defacto HW by july this year? All mfgs will have dual core phones and google will be planning for jelly by then.
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
For the same reason everyone else does...

And it's a high horse, not a soap box. ;)
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
No, its definitely a soap box. One makes speeches from a soap box and it is typically associated with preaching on a street corner or in more modern terms making a speech to a crowd of people who couldn't care less.

Oh, and by correcting your mistake I am knocking you off your high horse as I'm proving you're fallible.
[Nexus S General] :
You meant to type "your".

"You're" means "your are", and saying "I'm proving you are fallibility" is grammatically incorrect.
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
Actually, it was merely a typo. I originally typed "fallible" and decided to change it to "fallibility" however forgot to change "you're" to "your". The mistake has been corrected.
[Nexus S General] :
**** me,

Does the word Anal mean anything to you guys;) hahaha

Some people are just so pedantic on xda, If you wanna argue, get married;)

JD
[Nexus S General] :
The Nexus S is a phone, no phone is ever released as a developer phone, it just evolves into one by the option of an easy root and unlock of the bootloader. In the future the Nexus One will no longer be able to support latest OS's so im sure the Nexus S will carry that torch,

And i dont give a toss about spelling mistakes, :p

JD;)
[Nexus S General] rpcameron:
Actually, the "Android Dev Phone" was a version of the HTC Dream sold with a specific unlocked bootloader. Therefore, this is not an either/or situation of a "developer phone" versus the Nexus S, but rather a specific model name. The Android developers' website has changed its wording since it was originally released, but if you do a search, you will still references to "ADP".

Likewise, if you look at HTC's Developer Center you will find links to the ADP1's proprietary binaries—this "ADP1" is the "Android Dev Phone" that is mentioned on the Android website. There was also an ADP2, which was called the Ion and given out at one year's Google I/O conference; that phone was made by HTC, and was sold under the names Magic and the T-Mobile myTouch 3G. (There is a forum here for the device under "Sapphire", the target name of the device.)

When Google brought out the Nexus One, it stopped selling through its site the ADP1 and ADP2, and the Nexus One replaced those products as a "developer phone". Similarly, the Nexus One has now been superseded by the Nexus S, which is the newest "developer phone".

While it may just be semantics, the Nexus S is a "developer phone", and the "Android Dev Phone" was the name of a specific phone model, just like "Nexus S" is the name of a specific phone model.
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
I was trying to lighten the mood and be self-deprecating by saying it was a high-horse not a sop box, but your ego made you take it as some kind of challenge to your superiority and forced you to spew out more of the same? Trust me, there's no contest there, you are obviously more intelligent, compassionate, and a more valuable a member to the xda community than I am. I suspect I might be better looking, but that's a matter of taste, and unproven since I have no idea what you look like in person. My tongue is firmly planted in my cheek, please take it that way.

Anyways, like any other thread you think discusses something to death, give it a one star rating and stop participating, it will eventually filter down to the bottom and we won't have to look at it any more. I've given that advice in other threads on here, and followed it myself.

As it stands, your posts in this thread have been nothing but inflammatory and baiting. What's the point? At least when I get snarky about "that's already been posted/asked/discussed, I also add something responsive, like the answer to the question, an opinion on the topic, or a link to something to move the conversation forward. Have you done the same here?
[Nexus S General] Anderdroid:
I'm sorry you don't think it's a "developer phone" whatever the buttsmack crap that is.

Hate to burst your bubble, but any phone that supports USB debugging (AKA every Android phone? The iPhone? WP7?) is a developer phone.

Either way, if you're getting at buggy OS, even that would have nothing to do with whether it's a "developer phone" or not. Most phones are buggy. Developer phones or not. They all have their quirks. So wtf is this topic about?

Now if you're saying it's a developer phone to specifically develop Android on, and not apps, then yes, it compiles from source and you can fastboot from source with an unlocked bootloader.

Sorry it's not codenamed the "ADP4", yet.
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
I haven't posted any quotes to the prior conversation because I see no reason to post a link to a conversation I had with you in a different thread given that it was with you. My second post was to clear up that I was not, in fact, referring to a high horse, but a soap box. You asked me, whats the point of my posting this but I would rebut with the same question. Why would you post a meaningless, cluttering thread about an opinion based on semantics which has already been discussed at length in other threads? In fact, in your first post you are baiting others with a differing view point by explicitly stating that they are wrong.

My personal opinion on the matter is that it is a developer phone in spirit. I would never have called it that before I read this blog post on the Android Developers Blog:

That is an endorsement of developing specifically mentioning that the Nexus S was designed to allow developers to develop on this phone. But I've said all of this before and I saw no reason to re-post the same opinion over and over, again, given that I had said conversation with you not two weeks ago.
[Nexus S General] formuk:
There are two android dev phones. I just logged in to check.

One's a mytouch 3g and a Nexus One.

$399 & $529.
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
But those are exactly the points that I was making: 100's of posts in here saying something to the effect of "You should expect bugs because it's a developer phone..." The buggy software isn't because it's some special kind of developer phone that should be given a pass because it has that label, and calling the phone a developer phone, when it's sold to the public via normal distribution channels, doesn't excuse the bugs.

There is no point to this topic...I'd suggest that everyone stop reading it. :D

Thank you...
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
But by the literal logic applied, neither of those are Developer phones. They are Android Dev phones.

You're right. "Its a developer phone" is no excuse for bugs because that makes it into a non-consumer product and rather a near-release prototype. Now, side-stepping the argument that anything released by Samsung is a "near-release prototype", and instead focusing on the fact that this is indeed a consumer product sold at a big-box store, it is not that. However, I prefer to see our strife as a more bought-into-open-beta than anything else. Note that this is my opinion.

Let me explain; Just like any product, Android needs to be tested. Any if previous iterations and speed by which new iterations are released, its clear El Goog can't possibly have time to do widespread tests of these releases. When they release it on a Google branded phone which receives support directly from the goog themselves it is effectively the same as a developer releasing a piece of software to a group of testers. The difference being that we as a community are either too complacent to care about minor bugs or outspoken enough to go directly to Google to complain.

Now for my pure speculation: No other phones, not even the Nexus One has Gingerbread yet. Nothing being released this month is being released with Gingerbread. Heck, I can't even think of a phone with an official release date being released with Gingerbread. Why might that be? (Clearly, there are a lot of possible explanations but I'm only going to mention my belief) Because Google wants to work the kinks out by listening to our complaints.
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
I appreciate the cogent reply instead of further snarking, thank you.

I even agree with all but one of your points:

Actually, I don't even disagree with that, but I think it's a bad marketing move by Google because they've really sullied their reputation in some people's minds.

We have members here in this very forum that bought the NS thinking it was the pride of the Google fleet with the best OS; they didn't expect some "effectively....beta test" product. They paid full price at the same place they bought their plasma big screen, and they thought it was some kind of cool iPhone replacement that would work. Now they spend their time hating the phone and all it's little quirks.

When I beta test something, I usually expect to not pay $600 for the privilege. :eek:

Take for example this hot little CR-48 I'm using right now...it's a Google beta test product; they sent it to me for free. I won't complain if it's buggy (and it is!), because I'm not out of pocket for it, and since it's disclosed to me that it's beta, I expect some bugs. That's deal I made with Google to get the CR-48; that's not the deal I made with them for my Nexus S.
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
First of all, f*** you. I want a CR-48. Second of all, the important thing to remember is that there is absolutely no supporting evidence to most of my claims. They're my opinions. As to its bugginess being a detracting factor, I agree. Its not an intelligent move to put out a product with your brand on it that is sub-par.

However, I don't run stock. I haven't for awhile. No offense to any of the developers here but there are always bugs. Some bigger than others. Its a part of the life of a tech geek on the bleeding edge.

Regardless of the bugs, I'd still argue with anyone about the status of the NS as the best Android device currently available. I love it more and more every day and I would never trade its bugginess for the bloatware, slow updates, or other bulls*** that comes with carrier branded phones.
[Nexus S General] DKYang:
Nexus One released on January 5th, 2010.

Nexus one becomes "the developer phone" on August 5th, 2010.

http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/08/nexus-one-developer-phone.html

If no one can count or you're lazy, the Nexus One became "the developer phone" 7 months after its release.

Don't get it? Eh, not going to bother explaining.
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
Wink or smile when you say that or I might take you the wrong way...

It's a nice device. I wouldn't buy one, but I'm enjoying using it. Like the Nexus S, the battery life is INCREDIBLE. I just went two days without plugging it in, and it was my exclusive web-access machine those two days. I'm clueless how long it was actually on, at least 10-12 hours actual use.

Again, I agree, the Nexus S is still my favorite phone to date. It's amazing in many ways. It's also my first android that I don't feel compelled to run non-stock ROMs or kernels. I don't need to overclock, it's fast enough w/o, and while cyanogen offers some great extra features, I really don't miss them as much as I thought I would. I miss them very little, to be honest.

But we diverge from the topic. I should probably rename it to something less provocative, something like "Nexus S may or may not be a developer phone depending on whose definition you trust, but please stop using that as an excuse for bugs that shouldn't be", too bad that wouldn't fit. ;)
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
I rarely use smileys, but I assure you, it was in jest.

I wouldn't buy one either (which is why I haven't bought one of the ones I'm sure is on ebay or craigslist) but I love the concept and I wanted so badly to be able to try it sadly no one I actually know got one so I have not even gotten to fondle its soft-touch lid.

I agree about not running custom roms, however there is one flaw in all versions of Android that I just despise so I run custom roms to fix it: I hate not having the battery percent shown at all times. Absolutely hate it. And the fact that stock Android only polls for an image change every 25%ish percent (until you get low) means gauging remaining battery is impossible without going to the homescreen to view a battery widget which is absurd. Until recently, I've run CyanogenMod because it simply worked, but lately I've been having so many issues with it that I switched.

Actually, I just had a thought: If a regular person wanted a bicycle, they would get one with all the bells and whistles already installed. They wouldn't know what a front derailleur was and why the fact that theirs were Shimano made any difference. Now, if a biking geek (I don't mean someone who wears all the silly clothes, I mean a guy who knows how to spoke a wheel or build a chain) wants to buy a bike, they buy a basic frame. Its lightweight and bare. It might come with decent parts, but this person is going to personally replace all of that. He, or she, is going to make that bike the perfect bike for themselves.

Now, the colloquial term for such a bike would be a "Biker's bike." Applying this random metaphor to phones, the terminology doesn't quite translate perfectly but the term we would replace "Biker's" with would be "Developer's" making it the "Developer's phone." Again, this is not the same "Developer's phone" some use to explain away the defects, but it is another example of this being a "Developer's phone".

How about "NSMoMNbaDPDowDYTbPSUtaaEfBtSB"? That would fit.
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
I agree about the battery percentage. I love the circle mod ones. The life on the NS is so good, though, I don't find myself obsessing over it like I used to, so just a general idea that I'm still more than 25% is usually enough. Still, I have a nice widget (can't remember the app) on one of my secondary screens that puts a nice cup icon that is filled with green and slowly drains to red and displays the percentage for those times I just have to know.

Interesting bike analogy. I have a Specialized Enduro. I know who made all the components, but didn't build the bike up as you describe; so there's also something in-between.

I think a "hacker's phone" or "geek's phone" or "modder's phone" are all better ways to describe what you're talking about than "developer's phone." Developer makes me think of someone who develops software. Most of us in here aren't developing software for the phone, we're hacking together a personalized phone with mods and with the various works of others to get a phone just the way we like it.

I suppose it really is just semantics, but for some anal reason, it just irks me when people apply the term to the NS.

NSMoMNbaDPDowDYTbPSUtaaEfBtSB" -- brilliant.
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
Personally I like the sideways batteries with percentage and my wife loves the Android who drains (or as she calls it, her Android buddy). Also, I like Developer's Phone. It makes me feel superior ;) even though the other terms are definitely more accurate for most users, myself included. I tend to be anal about these things too.

Finally, I am more than aware of my personal brilliance, no need to affirm it :P (The face is meant to denote a facetious tone)
[Nexus S General] jivemaster:
^ this. That's how it is. And it will be a dev phone eventually.
[Nexus S General] :
The chrome os is pretty weak to be honest, if you want to experience it, just install canary build of chrome and hide your windows taskbar.

The hardware itself is pretty nice though, but it's nothing out of the ordinary.

Throw win 7 on there and you have a great little laptop. =)
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
I was thinking more like Ubuntu once I've tested out the thing the way Google expects.

Netbooks never interested me, but the CR48 does show me that a browser-only OS device has it very usable place in my life.
[Nexus S General] falconeight:
Its a developers phone that you can only buy at best buy.
[Nexus S General] :
I thought about using a linux distro, but I'm too satisfied with how well windows 7 works. I may revert to the chrome os if I see better updates down the line.

Side note: Chrome browser runs better and faster under windows 7 on the CR-48 than the Chrome OS.
[Nexus S General] j.bruha:
It is a dev phone... but these bugs are bull****.

Are comments like that acceptable?
[Nexus S General] crachel:
The hardware is supported in AOSP & the phone features "fastboot oem unlock". Its a developer phone noobs.
[Nexus S General] lok0919:
Agreed.

+10 char
[Nexus S General] tominater12:
This.
[Nexus S General] umbrella42:
Google "World=USA" fail. :mad:
[Nexus S General] MrNago:
So what makes the Nexus S worth buying, hardware and updates aside?

Note: I didn't want to open a new thread again, and I couldn't find an answer for my question.
[Nexus S General] brokentoaster24:
I'm more sick of this question:

"hey is that a droid? "

"no, it's a nexus s that runs android."

"oh..well it looks like a droid"

Sent from my Nexus S 4G
[G Tablet General] ThunderPuppy:
Watch live at:

http://www.youtube.com/android

Probably will lead to a lot of new posts here. Thought I would start the thread now.
[G Tablet General] catttman:
............................. cool..........................
[G Tablet General] Frrrrrrunkis:
This is like the O&A listening threads on whackbag.......lol. I missed the vid. Was it good?
[G Tablet General] craigwillie:
Looking forward to it!
[G Tablet General] Frrrrrrunkis:
Ok. I have looked for this event and its not public?
[G Tablet General] Stuggy:
It is 10AM pacific so I think it hasn't started yet.
[G Tablet General] tcrews:
Looking very cool. Honeycomb is going to be sweet.

Sent from my Viewsonic 10" GTab...
[G Tablet General] nunjabusiness:
So far it looks like a crappy slideshow.
[G Tablet General] kampf:
Watching it using Chrome on a PC. Lots of interesting stuff going on.
[G Tablet General] Frrrrrrunkis:
Yeah, i didnt realize that at first..... Lol.
[G Tablet General] ThunderPuppy:
New Market. http://market.android.com.

UPDATE: We can sign in now. When going to download an app it offers a list of what device to install it to. My only Android device is my G Tablet and the market lists it as NVIDIA VEGAn-Tab-V1.0.0.B5.1.:D
[G Tablet General] Dr. Light:
Technically an web-based app market should offer us an "full" app market, no? i'm sure every app is visible, i guess the question now is after we log in will the app market recognize our device and attempt to block certain apps from us, or would an app that doesn't show up on the Gtab just give us an app not found when we click on it from the Gtab browser?
[G Tablet General] copc:
Correct when trying to sign into market.android.com you get a invalid request both on the PC and Gtab and Phone. :(