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[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carlcj5:
Docs to go for my business while away from comp,movies,dungeon hunter,assassins creed,angry birds,navaddress,pretty much everything.

Sent from my SGH-T959 using Bionix-V by Team Whiskey,&several XDA apps
[HTC Inspire 4G] orb3000:
I am going for it soon as available!
[HTC Inspire 4G] borguesian:
This will be sweet with cm7!
[HTC Inspire 4G] r_3:
I talked att into giving me an early upgrade on this after complaining about the captivate. He told me to sell what I had and use that to cover the new phone. Done and done.

The local store will have one waiting for me on the 15th
[HTC Inspire 4G] pcmduncan:
I'm planning on it as a late birthday present to myself. Current Aria user but very excited about the Inspire!
[HTC Inspire 4G] bigcrav:
I was planning on waiting for the Atrix but after the pricing and the lock bootloader looks like I am going for the Inspire. Hoping it you guys can get root and custom roms. Can't wait to get rid of my iPhone 4 and get my first android device:)
[HTC Inspire 4G] droe411:
I have been waiting on a good phone for a long time from at&t. First the backflop then the xperia x10, now finally a real phone! I am calling and checking if I can get an early upgrade. I was going with the Atrix, but the cost of the laptop dock is way off. Motoblur and the locked bootloader turned me off also. I have have a locked bootloader with my xperia and it is basically killing the phones potential.

Sent from my xperia
[HTC Inspire 4G] blognc:
I was probably going to get the Atrix, but the terrible netbook dock pricing has slammed the brakes on my upgrade plans. At this point, I'll be waiting to see how XDA support works out on the various new AT&T phones, try out the phones in store, and probably not upgrade until the summer at the earliest. I'll probably wind up with the Inspire, but they've really buzzkilled everything for me.
[HTC Inspire 4G] tat2me2:
I'll be getting one ASAP...
[HTC Inspire 4G] mattbe213:
So am I! :D

This phone is going to be awesome!!!

Matt
[HTC Inspire 4G] mattbe213:
Mine will be an early birthday present. Exactly one month and two days early. :D

Matt
[HTC Inspire 4G] romeo0119:
Same here, Htc forever. But I just heard that Tmobile is gonna have a new Htc phone with dual core processor and a 4.3 screen, Att needs to step up!
[HTC Inspire 4G] JCreazy:
I was really wanting to get this, but now I am not sure if I should wait to see what HTC and AT&T have to offer later this year, maybe dual core with LTE
[HTC Inspire 4G] borguesian:
Pre ordered!
[HTC Inspire 4G] bkeaver:
Is it up for presale now? ???

sent from my GT-I9000 AT&T Captivate running Darky9.1 Extreme Edition
[HTC Inspire 4G] borguesian:
Radio shack
[HTC Inspire 4G] doctahjeph:
I can't find it on their site.
[HTC Inspire 4G] borguesian:
I went to the store
[HTC Inspire 4G] Noz85:
I'm getting one as soonas I can.
[HTC Inspire 4G] bullet247:
oh so me!!

As a long time user of the HTC tilt and tilt 2 I fell in love with the ease of using the winmo and manilla interfaces. Recently got a cruel joke of an upgrade in the form of the HTC surround which could be a great phone id not for the hold backs caused by winmo 7 OS. I greatly look forward to trying out the Android OS on a phone it's made for originally not just ported onto.
[HTC Inspire 4G] calin75:
I just pre-ordered one. :-D
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ste71m:
After upgrading to 2.1.1.А.0.6 i can't uninstall edge, roller rev 99 and uefa.com

I uninstall them using titanium, but every time i reboot they come back

Any idea?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] mclaudio:
Can you please post prop.bin File so that i can update for this rom? do you have generic version?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ste71m:
I have an italian kit

And after many attempts i finally got rid of undesired apps (i cleaned dalvik cache)
[Atrix 4G General] lows10:
Wow glad I don't have my tilt2 anymore and switched to sprint with prices like that there screwing them selves band there consumers that's just bs

sent from my hero which is a real hero now thanks to gb
[Atrix 4G General] SquareBare:
HTC Pyramid.
[Atrix 4G General] johnnydeathmatch:
Well, that's one usage scenario. I'm not sure why you'd pay that much for a phone off contract, though, with ATT. It's not like T-Mo where you can get a cheaper plan w/out phone subsidies.

If I were buying the Atrix, as a current ATT customer (like I am), and I wanted the dock, I'd just buy the combo deal which is $500 (plus tax) for both. That's $700+ less than what you have quoted.

Tethering is $20 a month, true, but I've been tethering on my ATT plans for years (since the iPhone 3G came out) and never paid any extra for it. I doubt that anyone on this forum wouldn't be able to figure out free tethering. I haven't looked into weather tethering is a required option on this phone, so I could be wrong. Side-note on the tethering: I have unlimited data for my phones on ATT, and last month I didn't have home internet while waiting for the cable co to install. I used well over 50GB of data that month. My wife used at least 10GB. I was able to stream Netflix to my HDTV and stay current with all my BitTorrent downloads (linux distros, y'know). And I don't pay for tethering. Not a word, slowdown, surcharge, complaint, or any throttling whatsoever from ATT. Plus I have the HSPA modem installed on my Captivate, so the data was quite fast (for a phone).

Anyone with an Android phone already pays for a data plan, so that isn't really sensible to add to the cost of the Atrix specifically, since it applies to every Android handset. Most decent Android handsets cost between $150-$200 (at least when they are new). So really, you are paying an extra $300 for... wait for it... a netbook! How much does a netbook cost? Oh, yeah, about $300. I paid $340 for mine, the OP says he paid $500 for something better.

That's cool, but the Atrix can also run Citrix for a full desktop experience if that's really what you want.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjOND67hYCE
[Atrix 4G General] Milkshakes00:
^ What he said.

I want the Atrix because it's top of the line. Oh noes, it doesn't ship with 2.3 or 3.0? No Android phone ships with the most recent firmware. Seriously.

I'm not getting tethering, I just want the media dock. I want to be able to stream high quality video to my TV/where ever.

I love that it's a powerful phone. I love that Sony has announced they'll be making games for the Android devices, and I love that the Atrix is the first one that will be able to reliably run Playstation 1 games, so I don't have to keep lugging my PSP around with a dozen memory sticks.
[Atrix 4G General] sdlopez83:
here, here
[Atrix 4G General] johnnydeathmatch:
Funny thing, I wasn't even interested in the Atrix until I saw the linkbait title of this post in a sig. After reading it I couldn't help myself, had to post a reply. Now I'm getting one for sure! It'll make a great birthday present from my wife (she's great!).

Now I just have to decide if I should get the laptop dock or should just wifi tether to my CR-48... Decisions, decisions.... I'm leaning towards not since I found out that the dock requires the tethering plan. It does look so sexy, though (like a Macbook Air) and I like the fact that it has its own battery which can charge the phone. Of course, with a 1930mAh battery, that might not be necessary.
[Atrix 4G General] ApplCobbler:
Not sure how you crunched those numbers, butyou assume that people don't already have a data pro plan (which is retarded for a site like XDA)

So doing the math correctly, by taking out the data plan you already have, it's actually more like:

(699+500+(20*12))/12 = 119.9---> $120 extra a month, if you're counting your initial investment, which I think would be poor statistics.
[Atrix 4G General] smitty1:
Well, the phone its self is a standard at&t phone deal.

It is only when you include the useless dock that the math turns into a total screw job.

Everything I have read says that you must have tethering to get the dock for 200 dollar discount.

Tethering is 20 dollars amount extra, anyone who has ever heard of XDA developers knows how to get around that little bs fee.

240 dollars a year for tehtring on a 2 year contract is a rip off.

after 2 years the dock will have cost close to 800 dollars.

800 dollars for a netbook is a friggin joke.

What is going on is at&t is doing anything and everything to try and make up for losing the Iphone exclusivity contract. I would look for them to also continue to increase their data pricing fees and anything else they can charge extra to their costumers to maintain their quarterly statements.
[Atrix 4G General] TriforceKommando:
I don't want to know what this will cost in Europe..

Too much in any case!
[Atrix 4G General] arcticreaver:
i currently have the nexus one and i can tether. i am also on the grandfather unlimited data plan from at&t. my question is about the tethering - will at&t lock this feature unless you pay for the tethering plan? or do i need to root this phone or something of that sort to get tethering working for free?
[Atrix 4G General] DarkDvr:
You assume many people here have DataPro.

I assume they don't. This is xda, most phones here are rooted and will have tethering hacks.

Either way, 153 or 120 per mo is insane. Especially considering latest Atrix reviews, which are disappointing to say the least.
[Atrix 4G General] DarkDvr:
The only way for you to be able to bypass AT&T detecting the tethering is if phone is hacked. You'll have to wait for our XDA geniuses to unlock the bootloader, root, find the detection methods and hack them.

Considering how much AT&T doesn't want you to do that + Moto's habbit of locking the hell out of bootloaders (Droid X).. I'd say you'll wait to wait a while.

Besides, sideloading is locked tight on Atrix - AT&T hates sideloading and will never allow it (from their words). So installing tethering apps is kinda out of the picture.

But that's just my guess, maybe it won't be as difficult to hack.
[Atrix 4G General] johnnydeathmatch:
That isn't true. Enabling sideloading is trivial and doesn't require unlocking the bootloader or root. Once you sideload PDAnet, you can tether all day long. That's worst case scenario, assuming none of the devs here enable root and hack the tethering feature as has been done with all the other phones.

Also, even with the heavily-locked bootloader (at this point we don't know if the Atrix is locked or not), the Droid 2 was rooted before it was even for sale. Rooting likely won't take long, and once we have root, tethering and whatnot won't be a problem.

IMO, even if we can't get custom ROMs, it won't be that big of a loss due to Tegra 2. The reason I put a custom ROM on my Captivate is for speed. From everything I've seen so far, that won't be a problem on the Atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] DumIam:
I'm just thankful I'm still grandfathered in under the old, unlimited data plan. Hopefully AT&T doesn't take that away any time soon. And then I'll happily wait a month or two to see what happens with the Atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] FLAC Vest:
To go against that, just for the hell of it, mine is going to cost 150, and it is going to cost 25 bucks a month for the data pro plan.

I know there are a lot of things that people would love to change, but you have tonremember that this is a first for the industry and there are going to be problems.

The phone itself is amazing technically, theres no doubt about that.
[Atrix 4G General] xs2k:
WRONG! Nexus S shipped with 2.3....latest and greatest at the time.
[Atrix 4G General] Joelpatrick:
That's your problem.

There are a lot of assumptions here but we aren't all in the same boat. I currently have an iPhone 4 with unlimited. I managed to score the Atrix for $168 no commitment($268-$100 instant rebate) in my premier count. Which I do believe was a glitch because the prices are now at 399.99 but mine has shipped nonetheless. I have screenshots to prove the pricing. I've been holding out for a good Android phone on AT&T because in my area I get great service. The Atrix fit the bill. You also don't need to unlock/decrypt the boot loader OR even root the phone to allow free tethering. There is a thread in this section and they added the how-to to the root thread that shows you how to enable it without a tethering plan. So I won't be spending anything extra a month aside from my initial $168+tax for the phone and I can tether for free to my iPad and laptop. For me, this is a great deal. I understand not everyone was able to get it for this price or have grandfathered-in unlimited data but some do. I just don't understand the motivation for the big write up really. Is there some sort of anger that this set up is out of your price-range? I felt the need to take my time to explain my situation but I can't think of a reason why you would spend your time explaining yours.
[Atrix 4G General] neer2005:
Or $199 on contract + $30 unlim data + 3rd party laptop dock.

Oh and I think Moto said they are going to release an update soon for 1080p capture. And 99% of all android phones have a locked bootloader. You can get launcherpro if you dont like MotoBlur. Rooting the phone will give you free tethering.
[Atrix 4G General] falconeight:
Its $499 of contract and where else can you take the guts out of your laptop put it in your pocket, make phone calls, send receive emails, web surf, etc.
[Atrix 4G General] MeX_DK:
USB Tethering hasnt ever been locked to my knowledge. But the WiFi bit has. But all that takes is rooting and then its sorted. And the Atrix 4G is already rooted even before hitting the stores so :)

I am however only going to get it in April, provided the bootloader is either unlocked, or can be broken open by that time.
[Atrix 4G General] hagalah:
Well, the calculation is quite weird

1) If you are using the phone for 2 years or 1 year, then why you pay the off contract price on the phone?

2) Laptop dock is just an accessory, like the accesory for iphone, like the softwares for all kind of smartphone. No one forces you to buy it, right? If you want to add this up, then you should calculate how iphone users paid extra for the accessories for iphone.

3) Unless you are a new smartphone user, then you already paid for the Data plan $25. Again, you don't have to buy the laptop dack for the extra $20 tethering plan. Your choice.

So, you didn't pay any extra for that. If you just get the phone (the phone itself is already an awesome phone), then you just pay the regular upgrade / device purchased fee. That's it. Nothing different than buying a new iphone or inspire in AT&T.
[Atrix 4G General] dew.man:
You know you guys are just feeding the trolls, right?
[Atrix 4G General] pcmike:
Pretty sure the phone is only $499 off contract.
[Atrix 4G General] killerb7854:
Atrix=199, Laptop dock=unneeded, Bill=unchanged.

No more waiting for a tegra 2 phone on att=priceless

Sounds like someones upset because they used there equipment discount on a craptivate.
[Atrix 4G General] tsekh501:
The phone itself is $499 off contract. Sure you have to pay tax and probably activation fee of some sorts, but that definitely don't cost another $200.

Plus, the phone has already been rooted, so you can do "free" tethering as long as you have a data plan.

The laptop dock is... yes, expensive. But I am wondering what's in that dock? How does it communicate with the phone? Does it has use some special Motorola chipset in it? Or just some pin contacts? If it's the latter case, I can see a flush of knock-off docks that will be cheaper and probably more feature rich (thinner? bigger battery? multi-touch touchpad? larger/smaller screen?) coming from China.

I guess this phone will be a victim of iFixit within next week, let's wait and see what's inside the dock!
[Atrix 4G General] :
There sure are a lot of complaints about this phone.

It sure is a helluva upgrade from my nexus one. I could give a sh$t about the laptop. It's time will come, but it's not fully baked yet and I have no intention of getting it.

If people ***** about AT&T why don't they go elsewhere. The truth is, they don't otherwise AT&T wouldn't be almost as big as Verizon (in subscribers).

But if you leave... well... at least in my area... I couldn't get a T-Mobile signal to save my life. Sprint has crap phones. And yes, even with 4G, the few people I know are only getting about 3Mbit on Wimax here.

So go to Verizon, but wait... they cost as much as AT&T if not more and there CDMA 3G has been proven time and time again to be slower than AT&T's HSPA.

I admit I think AT&T is pure evil, but the other carriers are no better and all have their faults. So they might be a little cheaper (T-Mobile, Sprint) but you get what you pay for.

In a perfect world, I would like to see LTE Android phones take off on Verizon and really pressure AT&T to actually compete and stop crippling their phones.

That's a pefect world. I think in a couple years we'll see that when LTE on both Verizon and AT&T is much better established.

The phone is pretty good option for now.

-James
[Atrix 4G General] trublu:
Original post is pure rubbish.
[Atrix 4G General] naxir:
This thread is ridiculous. First off, you assume remaining on the plan for 2 years and yet you give the off contract price, why? Secondly, the thread is titled "Explanation of how Atrix 4G will cost you...". Note that you said "Atrix 4G" and not "Atrix 4G with accessories".

The truth is, if you're buying the phone for the upgrade price of $200, after taxes and other surcharges it might end up as high as $250. Most people who frequent these forums have a smart phone already so they're used to paying the data plan. As such, it's not an additional cost cast down upon them by this purchase.

$250 over 24 months = $10.42 per month. At the end of that 24 month period of time, guess what? you still have a phone.

Here's another way to look at it: Find a carrier you like, buy a phone for $200. In a year from then, upgrade to a new phone for $200. Generally speaking, most good phones will go for at least $200 a year later on ebay or craigslist. Sell old phone, get new phone. Even if the old phone doesn't go for $200, you're still offsetting the price of the new phone by a good bit.
[Atrix 4G General] hotleadsingerguy:
What are you talking about? First of all if you're going to be under contract you'll be getting the phone for $200...And a vast majority of people are getting this phone to use as a *PHONE*. That means no tethering (take $25/mo off your estimate) and no laptop accessory. I'm buying it because it's literally the most powerful phone you can buy in the States for now and for the foreseeable future. Do I need 1Gb of DDR2 RAM? No. Do I want it? Hell yes. I probably would never notice even anything with 512Mb...but this way I never have to clear my RAM even to play the most demanding games.

Also, I love the other "cons" you list...things like "doesn't do LTE" and "unable to do 1080p video". You realize not a single phone on the market does either of those things, right? The camera is about on par with most other new Android phones coming out...so once again not sure how that can be a "con". Only one phone has actually shipped with Gingerbread at this point and almost every review has said Motorola worked on their version of Froyo to work exceptionally with the TEGRA2 SoC. Oh, and let's not mention that it has a ****ING DUAL-CORE PROCESSOR and top-of-the-line mobile GPU inside...something no other phone on the market can currently say (since the only phones that use the Tegra2 up to this point have only been available in Korea...).

Also...problem with the bootloader? The phone's already been rooted and already made to run Custom ROMs. It may take awhile but custom kernels will most likely come in the future at some point...until then the Atrix is the fastest phone on the market, and will be for at least 3-4 months (most likely longer). But please, keep trying to dissuade people with your faulty logic and math.
[Atrix 4G General] elementaldragon:
I don't imagine we'll see knock-off docks. As far as i can assume, it's basically just a battery with a keyboard, trackpad, and screen. I don't think we'll see any thinner, either. I've seen one at a local AT&T shop... and they're already quite thin.... almost Macbook Air thin....
[Atrix 4G General] Masterface7:
So what does that mean, the dock wont work unless you have the tethering enabled on your phone? Would the dock still work, with internet, one just has to get it from outside of ATT source, or would it still work without internet. I am thinking about getting this phone but I would definitely not pay an extra fee for tethering so I wonder if there are any chances of the dock working... with internet.
[Atrix 4G General] FLAC Vest:
Well some people said that there is a hack that doesn't require root, but im not so sure about that; didn't dee anything yet.

However, yes, ATT is requiring that you have a 4GB tethering.plan which is an extra 45 bucks I.think, to use with the dock.

Sucks, I know.

Captivate 2.2.1 Paragon
[Defy General] ton_:
Hey Guys!

My Android Market stopped work after update to UK 3.4.2-117

When I was with FW2.21. It's OK.

I already tried to Clean Data, Cache... another Google Account... with 3G and WiFi, but nothing...

When I trying to download anything from Market... It's write "start downloading..." Then dissapear and nothing...

Sorry about my english...

Thanks a lot!
[Defy General] MadStu:
This happens to me sometimes too. When it starts downloading, go back into the app info screen and watch the progress bar.
[Defy General] ton_:
I tried, but the progress bar show me "starts downloading" then dissapear and appear after 1 second in the same screen, for example I'm getting Angry Birds -> Install -> OK -> Download screen with progress bar -> dissapear before download -> appear "Angry Birds Free" not installed... If I install another program from my SD It's appear normally "Installed".

Thanks!
[Defy General] sjg83:
I have the same problem with the market. Help plase.
[Defy General] ton_:
Up!

The problem persists
[Defy General] gubshi:
I got that, too, some time ago with my x10 mini. I needed to wipe the market data and created a new google mail account, though its a known googlebug and there its no 100% working fix for that.
[Defy General] S1dew1nder:
starting to have this problem takes about 5-7 tries to get something to download and install off the market going to see if wiping the market app data will help
[Defy General] contrem:
I'm having the same problem with downloading from the Market since flashing to 3.4.2. On top of that the earpiece on my defy has just stopped working so I need to send it in for repair!
[Defy General] contrem:
Please help!

Could one of the experts take pity on us and help us find out what's causing this?

Even if I reflash the SBF using RSD Lite it doesn't fix the problem.

Any suggestions would be gratefully received!
[Defy General] contrem:
Fixed it!

I got it working again by doing a factory reset from recovery and then when setting up the google account I created a new account instead of using my existing account. When I went into the market I was then able to download.

I then did another factory reset and used my old account and I was still able to download things from the market.

Hope this works for the rest of you. :)
[Defy General] replicant101:
i believe contrem is the best way to sort it out.. otherwise you might need to reflash using "RSD Lite".
[Defy General] ton_:
I did the recovery, create a new account in google, but the problem still here... :(
[Defy General] Avs_sport:
I have the same problem with the market heeeeelp pleaseee!!!
[Defy General] ABC_Universal:
I also have this problem recently. Seems to happen after I setup some email accounts. But removing those email accounts didn't help. Also tried cleaning cache/data etc but that didn't help neither.

I've given up. I can download almost everything anyway (I read Chinese ;))
[Defy General] ABC_Universal:
I have finally solved by problem. Clearing Market cache is not enough. Have to terminate Market, set locale to English (US), and turn off wifi before restart Market. After the terms and conditions show up, can set locale back to your preference and turn on wifi again. :)