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[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] miki100:
d-two, would it be possible for your bootloader to also launch Windows Mobile? I think I saw something like that for HTC HD2. I'm asking because Windows Mobile is still good for daily usage (phone, SMS, notepad...) and Android is better for multimedia.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] nasko_spasko:
I guess there wouldn't be Nough space for the both OS-es on the MSystems DOC..?!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
Maybe not, but it could be set to leave everything as is with windows on the flash and android on the mmc, and load windows if there is no android or kernel on the memory card. but there's a windows mobile app that does this now...lol
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
:good: Good idea!

As i really love D-Two's WM6.5.5Multilang i think it would be great if he'd look at it one last time.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
This is really hard so we need a bootloader that support Android and Windows mobile :eek:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] nasko_spasko:
Well, if I have to be honest, if the NANDroid works fine, or even 80-90% of the features are usable, I will forget WM. :) So far, so good, Mr. D-Two! You're doing great, and everyone who helps you.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
No.

WM has got its own reason. Especially looking at the quarrel between Apple and Android.

Maybe it won't be possible to write a bootloader for both parallel...

D-two has given us so many surprises- i know this is no wishing-well, but at BQS we always believed 2GB would be ultimo because of hardware to our phones, and now this!

I'll never ask D-two to do something, but feel free to post a wish, confident in his aim to solve at first problems before told unsoluble. If not... did i loose anything?

I think we should look at WM and Android separately, but no-one can tell now what D-two may come about in progress and where he'll go to from this...

If this isn't cool- what else?

D-two has already made his mark:victory:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Just started CM7.2 on Verizon Harrier.

Bluetooth can be activated, blue LED starts flashing,

but no reaction if you click in bluetooth settings on

"make device visible" and "search for bluetooth devices".

So bluetooth obviously is active, but Harrier can't

neither be detected by other phones, nor find

eg GPS receiver.

edit: tested again, took battery and sd out, remounted and- ta-daah it worked till to the point of pairing. Countertested on SX66- same thing: paired but not connected.

Away from this bluetooth seems to work on android for Harrier and BA, i only didn't have a programme on android to activate.

Entering password of GPS via physical keyboard didn't work, had to use touchscreen.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
a new tool made by me...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1948803
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Nice? No, Cool Tool!

Got its own thread now...

btt: Just transmitted a mp3-file from EF82 via bluetooth to SX66 running 7.2

Took me some time till i learned to draw symbol up left downwards to accept transmission, but in the end everything works as it should.

Unfortunately there's no sound if i try to play the file, just silent white noise. Ringtones work, but nothing from library.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
sound is available in the next version...

bluetooth work thats really cool...

also for the harrier we need a gps driver and CDMA modem stuff (infos about CDMA is already posted by GnatGoSplat)..
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Well, as i said- sound for ringtones already works (not via mediaplayer).

Tried to copy the file into ringtone folder, but think i rather got lost at my android skills than technical purposes... Seems to be more some mediaplayer item though. tbc also on Harrier tomorrow.

edit: transmission of jpeg via bluetooth from EF82 to Harrier worked. Got now BlackFalcon background. Strange- one Harrier always booted on android, but after some time shut down, though he's stable on WiMo...

worked when plugged in. Strange thing this harrier detected battery right. The one which worked flawlessly always complained CHARGING!

Another thing is file manager. Unfortunately some areas are not in the way available as i'm used to from TotalCommander... couldn't copy jpeg from bluetooth/file to system/file
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
Well, I've finally got it to work. That YouTube tutorial really helped. It's great work really, I can't believe how much this has progressed, i am using Cyanogen Mod 7.2 and i have a few questions.

How would i get SDHC Support?

When the Android has a DOC install, will it be laggy like now, or will it be smooth?

Can i help in the production of this Android build :D

Great work d-two. Absolutely EXCELLENT WORK :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] nasko_spasko:
I think the lag comes from the slow CPU and the lack of hardware OpenGL rendering, cuz on software it's many times slower. w/ DOC install will be increased only the load/close apps speed, I think..
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
at the moment use the blueangel a software opengl driver ;) i think it will run better if we have a real hardware opengl driver...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
The SDHC support work only with linux bootloader i don't now what windows mobile does with sd card driver!?

The problem with DOC install:

we have only 64MB internal space and android is 128MB big...

my solution we use the doc later for the cache or swap...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] miki100:
But is it possible? I think that Imageon 3200 doesn't support OpenGL, only framebuffer, video and image decoding.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
D-Two was faster, so i deleted my reply...

About the linux-SDHC bootloader- if we start android from SD card in windows,

how does it work if windows can't read SDHC?

Don't we also need a wimo-SDHC bootloader- or can the cards be switched after android has booted?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Yes, the Imageon 3200 doesn't support OpenGL but 2D acceleration and the rest for OpenGL must run over software implementation...

Someting like hybrid OpenGl driver :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
i don't know...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] miki100:
Isn't d-two's Android/Linux bootloader only for these operating systems? So, you can't boot Windows Mobile and start Android from Haret.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
I think the idea is to forget Windows Mobile when d-two's bootloader is installed. SDHC doesn't work with Windows Mobile installed because of the way its driver initializes the SD reader (the problem is not with the factory bootloader, because when d-two's bootloader is installed the factory bootloader is still there - d-two's bootloader is second-level).

About the lag in Android UI, I think that may be partially fixed in newer Android versions thanks to the Butter project which makes the UI thread high-priority, among other optimizations. Whether the RAM usage of these versions is low enough to fit on 128MB is another story, though. OpenGL drivers for the Imageon may be of some help, mostly in things like scrolling lists (2D). I don't think 3D games and such will have much improvement as the 3rd dimension is still taken care of by the CPU, as the Imageon has no support for it.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
I just wanted to get it right... you can't start Haret from SDHC in WiMo so there has to be a way different from the way we used up till now. If WiMo is dead we'll see in 2013 i think.

And why not have a second WiMo bootloader like the linux one? But again:i after all first wanted to get it logically solved.

Just to understand...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
Just to clarify, project butter is already available on JB/ICS, does ICS work with the Gingerbread drivers?

Or is it incompatible?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Project butter is for JB not ICS...

Sent from mALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
I think he mean this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1911327
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Ahh....

I stand corrected then :)

Sent from mALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Abducted:
Well i'll be damned... I've been soo happy with my blue angel for years because of you guys providing us with ROM of newer Windows Mobile versions. But since the battery kind of died on me i've been using it (plugged in) in my car for navigation. Just for fun i'd check if anybody was crazy enough to port Android to the damn thing and what do you know!!! :D

Thanks so much! I can use my blue angel even longer!!! :P
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
Yeah, it's really awesome, i stopped following this project in January but someone liked D-Two's video which had touchscreen support and i think that was in april/june. It's really great that the Blue Angel has lived on and has exceeded the limits of it :P

BLUE ANGEL IS AWESOME, PARTY FOR D-TWO'S GEATNESS
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
Looks like d-two lately hasn't been having much time to dedicate to this project, but anyway it would be great if the latest developments (unstable and everything) could be published so that others could keep on with his awesome work :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
have fun...

http://sourceforge.net/p/pxadroid/pxakernel/
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
d-two, don't be angry, but your project is not abandoned, right ?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
no, the project is over when the blueangel is completely ported...

and i think nobody will resume this project, except of me...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
All I see is the source for the kernel, but nothing for the bootloader you showed a video of.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
That may be because it is completely separate from the kernel....

Sent from mALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Lopicl.00:
I'm testing but isn't booting, it try to execute sh, keystore, mediaserver and dbus-daemon (all of this located in bin folder) but it gives a "permission denied"... What do i do?

I've downloaded the CM7 and partitioned the sdcard in two partitions of 1 GB (one FAT and one EXT4 in master boot record with ubuntu). I'm running your WM6.5 english rom.

EDIT: Now i get a black screen...

EDIT 2: I've solved: i didn't have formatted wihout owner of filesystem.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
I presume this also meets your Hima-question.

If i don't get along with it, I'll take a look at the screens' connectors,

there's one to plug and one to clasp- maybe i can cover both.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
Some news ?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Yes, some news:

I have fix ATI Suspend...

I have fix SD Card detection...

I have create a standby mode (standby time 36 hours)

Fix PWM asic for bootloader version...

Kernel support now Hima, Magician and Universal too...

and at the moment i work on the PXA-Bootloader (it can detect the different devices Himalaya, Blueangel, Magician and Universal)

Stuff that need to fix or add:

Flash driver in Bootloader...

PXA framebuffer in bootloader...

Docg driver for Universal in bootloader...

USB Support in Bootloader...

Fix SD card in Android...

Fix route for mic (phone and record) in Android...

Improvements for performances...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] miki100:
:eek:

So basically you ALONE made things, that many people couldn't do before(especially Imageon suspend). I just can't think about how you made it. You are the best developer here at xda! I'm no match for you :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Lopicl.00:
Yeah! Thanks! And, is this release ready for upload and download? :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] koalauk:
Is this ready ? Been keeping my blueangel for this :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
Hidden in darkside our d-two continue the pxa developing :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Little video with QVGA and working framebuffer see first post!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] GnatGoSplat:
Very cool, I can't wait to try this on my Harrier.

Just curious, why Froyo and not Gingerbread?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
I don't know but i will first finish one Android :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
Nice :D. But why won't you upload sources so we could help with this project :D?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
There is an old saying...

Sometimes too many cooks spoil the broth ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] swiss420:
There is a new saying....

XDA Members writing infinite amounts of Code will eventually rewrite the whole works of Linus Torwalds.

With every Message being posted here I am visiting this thread in hopes of finding the holy files that will make my Blue Angel a bonefied Penguin. ;)

@d-two donated to you a couple of Coffees so that you dont fall asleep. :p
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Thank you...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] ares93:
Holy crap, mate. You're crazy. The good kind of crazy though. :-) I can't wait until its fully useable. I never would've thought froyo could be ported to the BA. Now if my old 600mhz BA was still working... oh well. 470 is better than nothing...

Btw, what kind of support can we expect? Will apps from market work?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
600? I thought that the processor in the BA could only be overclocked to roughly 500 and change...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
No, it is right the processor can overclock to 600 !!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] grigor1993:
Yes on my its 530Mhz.. but some people think he can overclock to 600Mhz but this is false... the OC programs is cheating, Just see it on TCPMP.

I think there is one good program to OC Blue Angel..:cool:

Just set L: 36 and disable Turbo.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
I have not say that this is good to 600 :D but it work ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] ares93:
It displayed 594mhz if i remember correctly. But it was above 590, that i'm certain of. Either way, my new BA can't handle anything above 471. The app itself was capable of oc ing to 1700mhz. At least the settings were. I'll try to dig it up, but this was ages ago. But ill post it here if i find it.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] O_s_s:
For my BA overclocking I use Pocket Hack Master. I get about 590 mHz and it is very stable. I use OC only for some apps (fpsece, tcpmp). Its not my first BA, but max freq. is the same.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] ares93:
older blue angels seem to be capable of higher clock speeds. it might be my imagination though.

me and a friend bought two brand new ones a while back. they were probably among the last ones manufactured. mine is only capable of 471mhz and hers maxed out on 530. while 570 and 590 seemed to be relatively stable on all the older ones i've tested...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
If memory serves me well, there are like 3 different versions of the BA, all of them with different boards. So, it could be because of this...

Aw well...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
Well, that's possible, however my BA also works at 600MHz :D.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] swiss420:
Formula to Calculate the Penguin Experience on our BA

Your Discussion got me thinking and I was wondering how much Penguine Power "PP" my BlueAngel would have? Or in other words what the experience could be, compared to other devices running Froyo. I found the following formula could work to calculate comparable results.

((Device Mhz x sum of Processors) / Device Age in Month) / OS Age in Month = Penguin Power "PP"

This is based on the following logic:

As newer the OS is, the less supported it will be on older hardware with slower processors. In turn this makes the device theoretically less usable. Release Dates are from Wikipedia and XDA Wiki.

Just for Example (May 2011):

A BA with 400Mhz released Oct 2004 running Froyo released Mai 2010 rates at 0.36 PP

Froyo:

(400Mhz / 91 Mt = 4.39) / 12 Mt = 0.36 PP

(600Mhz / 91 Mt = 6.59) / 12 Mt = 0.54 PP

Gingerbread:

(400Mhz / 91 Mt = 4.39) / 5 Mt = 0.88 PP

(600Mhz / 91 Mt = 6.59) / 5 Mt = 1.32 PP

To compare a HD2 with 1000Mhz released Nov 2009 running Froyo released Mai 2010 rates at 2.78 PP

Froyo:

(1000Mhz / 30 Mt = 33.33) / 12 Mt = 2.78 PP

Gingerbread:

(1000Mhz / 30 Mt = 33.33) / 5 Mt = 6.67 PP

Wonder how this would look visually. :) If I look at the results so far I can tell that below 2 is impressiv that it still runs and props to the dev but chances are it is not a very representative experience of all current Android functionalities. Either speed, age or both will impact the experience drastically. 2 PP and above should theoretically provide for a great Android Experience.

Obviously the whole thing is not meant serious in case someone is wondering about that after reading and trying to figure out my logic. lol
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
No, you're completely wrong about this! This is Linux, you can write drivers for ANY hardware, no matter how old it is. And it'll still work as good as new hardware in terms of both stability and reliability. The only difference will be performance but that's quite obvious. Anyway, PXA263 clocked at 530MHz still has lots of computing power and should run Android pretty good ;). So now it's all up to our great d-two, we hope that you finish porting soon :D.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
-Keyboard (in Kernel) tested with evtest (no event)
-TSC2200 Buttons (in Kernel) tested with evtest (no event)
-TSC2200 Touchscreen (in Kernel) tested with evtest (no x,y)

If I'm right, this means that these things aren't working at all :(. Am I wrong d-two?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Lopicl.00:
R: [DEV] Android for Blue Angel (PXA Droid)

Up! :D

Inviato dal mio GT-S5830i con Tapatalk 2
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Your Swahili seems brilliant, but could You please rehearse in a somehow more common language?

(Please note: ani lo lomed iwrit...)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Lopicl.00:
R: [DEV] Android for Blue Angel (PXA Droid)

Do d-two upload this release?

Please note: non sono madrelingua inglese...

Inviato dal mio GT-S5830i con Tapatalk 2
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
I think most of us;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Lopicl.00:
R: [DEV] Android for Blue Angel (PXA Droid)

Hihihi! :D

Inviato dal mio GT-S5830i con Tapatalk 2
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Fortunatioremente i've got the latinum Asterixianum ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Lopicl.00:
R: [DEV] Android for Blue Angel (PXA Droid)

That's great! :D

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[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
comments welcome

[YOUTUBE]5P3zE-0sWaY[/YOUTUBE]
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
only 2 questions:

1: we need to make the driver's procedure like winmo for install the rom under win 7 x64 ?

2: have you deodexed the system files ?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
1. yes...

2. yes...

:p
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] freibergisch:
AW: [DEV] Android for Blue Angel (PXA Droid)

And where are the download files? On startpost are the current files.. Or do you test this procedure before publishing the files? :) want a fully working (and self booting) android ;)

Then I want to look if my SysInfo app works with this Rom. But only in German language atm. Have to translate it...

Please give us more input :)

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[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Lopicl.00:
R: [DEV] Android for Blue Angel (PXA Droid)

Niiiiiiiice!!!!!!!!!!!!

Inviato dal mio GT-S5830i con Tapatalk 2
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
This is really, really good news (awesome news it will be when everything is available for download :) ).

Is there any chance of bricking the device by flashing your bootloader? Or is the flashing mode of the bootloader left untouched (meaning we can enter it after installing the PXA Droid bootloader, and flash a Windows Mobile ROM if we want)?

I'm considering donating to you, depending on how much money I have left after renewing my domains and such :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
The HTC-Bootloader is untouched!!! This can't brick the devices...

Thank you...

PS: The bootloader work for Hima and Magician too ;) and if it work for Universal i will release it...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Maybe you should touch it... you know what i'm dreaming of ;)

btw: letter will leave this afternoon.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
hi again guys ....

i have a question.

when i open herat.exe ....

the BA is opening linux ( i see some statements ...) but the BA hanging on in last statement. (about 5 min) : "Restarting system with command recovery"

Whats the wrong ? help me
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Don't know what went wrong.

I (again) suppose to really carefully read D-Two's How-To and re-install.

To be honest- the best thing will be to just wait till he's finished his Bootloader,

then everything will be much easier.

Inbetween enjoy your WM6.5.5 multilang ;)

btw: HARET
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
how can i go to recovery mode on BA ?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
What is your Problem?

People only can help if you tell what's the matter.

Are you stuck on your not-running Android?

Just take out SD-Card and perform a cold reset,

then WM should boot.

(Press power button and reset with stylus simultaneously.)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] pablo67:
Great great work D-two:good::good::good::good:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Simply great.

Maybe a little hint concerning backup function in flasher could be useful when it's time for release.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
(\__/)

(='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your

('')_('') signature to help him gain world domination

---------- Post added at 10:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:05 PM ----------

i cant load android from my WM 6.5.3 beta !!

error !!

all ways of D-two` How ? seccessfuly i did !! But when i open Haret.exe , it hangig on booting mode

i`m very tired !!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] pablo67:
Hi d-two

I tried your tool for the BA

I followed the video to the point of reset BA there I had to stop

I have attached a picture of what appeared to me on the display

Any suggestions?

Thanks a lot
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
AW: [DEV] Android for Blue Angel (PXA Droid)

The final bootloader is not release yet...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] pablo67:
Ok d-two

Thank you for the fast answer

I wait the final bootloader

thank you
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
6.5.3? Amazing!

Please do the same as Pablo67: wait for the final release of bootloader. And inbetween: please, please read, read, read.

And try to understand.