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[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
My gut feeling is that Sprint is acquring T-Mobile
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
T-Mobile is the largest carrier of the 4 majors that are in the US. I highly doubt that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mobile_network_operators

10. T-Mobile

18. Verizon

19. AT&T

Sprint doesn't even make the top 30.
[Epic 4G General] :
Not that I am supporting either side, but that is simply worldwide presence.

In the US Sprint is 3 and TMobile is 4, with sprint having 150% of the customer base of TMobile.

I could see them getting in bed together.

Again, not supporting either position though.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
While most people say its going to be a 4g Tablet with dual screens..since he said "Industry First"..

But I think Industry first would be us getting a Froyo update..I mean how much more industry first would it be..Imagine it now... :P lol

Though I REALLY wish they announce SVDO...

Nationwide 4G is impossible at this point..
[Epic 4G General] quick99si:
Can you please elaborate on what you meant by compatibility between T-Mobile and Sprint? I was leaning towards a merger as well at first, but it didn't really jive with the way they promoted the event (industry first, magician, timing vs iPhone on VZW). But then again, there were rumors of this being in the works months ago.

Anyway, this is a more accurate representation of US market share. Even this gets a little confusing with all the affiliates, subsidiaries, overseas ownership, etc particularly with Sprint and Nextel/Boost/Virgin and so on...

93.2M VZW

92.8M ATT

47.5M S

33.7M TMO

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_wireless_communications_service_providers
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Yea, but T-Mobile is the only company listed that is a global presence, other than I guess Verizon who is nearly half owned by Vodafone. Also, they are owned by Deutsche Telekom, a gigantic company. T-Mobile may have the fourth largest marketshare in the US, but its not like the US operations are completely seperate from the rest of the world. I highly doubt Deutsche Telekom is going to give up all presence in the US mobile market by selling off T-Mobile. Sprint has a third of the subscribers of T-Mobile globally.
[Epic 4G General] snowmanwithahat:
Notice how I specifically didn't put Froyo in the poll? ... I'm happy to see no one has mentioned that yet :D
[Epic 4G General] quick99si:
One can make a similar point about Verizon and Vodafone, but the fact is that it's *beside* the point. The discussion revolved around the US market and the 4 big players. With Sprint effectively shutting down Nextel, suffering horrible churn numbers, and I assume being forced to raise prices across the board... you have to admit that it makes at least a little sense to seek closer ties or partnerships with TMO (or anyone!) in order to be in the ring with Verizon. Keep in mind that in the states, Sprint and T-Mobile are considered "value" post-paid carriers when compared to ATT/VZW. I would even venture a guess that a sizeable majority of Sprint defectors are moving to T-Mobile, Cricket, and the likes.

Now whether that be a simple roaming agreement with more garbage "hybrid devices" (see: Sprint-Nextel 'merger') or a full merger (given T-Mobile's divesting of it's US Company) is something that I can't even begin to think about since I don't know the surrounding facts and circumstances. I'm just curious if this is a viable option, if it's something that was considered by either entity, etc..

It's all part of a bigger question that revolves around Sprint/T-Mobile's futures with the current trends in technology, markets, and their main competitors. The general consensus that the February announcement fits somewhere in there, and it may provide insight into Sprint's long-term goals and/or paths.
[Epic 4G General] insanity213:
Sprint has goals?
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
My only point was that if there was a merger, it wouldn't be Sprint that is doing the buying. T-Mobile looks smaller, but they have massive backing and a gigantic global presence. The weakest mobile carrier in the US is Sprint by a longshot, even though they have more subscribers than T-Mobile in the US.

I made a quick little infographic:
[Epic 4G General] JojoSteez:
10CHAR....
[Epic 4G General] decalex:
Plenty of cali has 4g
[Epic 4G General] hayabusa1300cc:
Ladies and gents.. be prepared for WiMax2 :-)

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[Epic 4G General] amwworks:
Well I was at a sprint store a couple of months ago and the sales manager was telling the that sprint was coming out with the first 4g blackberry this spring. That could be part of the announcement since sprint likes to be the first at everything.

Sent from THE STARSHIP ENTERPRISE
[Epic 4G General] lviv73:
Most of us dont even have wimax1 and the way things lookin we wont have it for few more years.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
They're prolly gonna just announce the first playbook launch

But I'm def hoping for a merger with t-mo-usa. They're staunch supporters of android :)
[Epic 4G General] hayabusa1300cc:
Haha true fogot about that.

But that was just my crazed speculation.

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[Epic 4G General] NoSoMo:
I just want a phone that has a battery capacity that's usable. I want a battery that's the full size of the phone. I do not care if it's a little thicker; what good is a phone that fits anywhere if it is dead? 3000mah with a 6000mah aftermarket door
[Epic 4G General] chevyfan061:
David Blaine is going to confess his love towards Oprah.

Then Oprah is going to appear and give all of us epic 4g owner another samsung phone that will never be updated, but it will be free! and all of will cry our hearts out at the generosity of Oprah!
[Epic 4G General] dannyzen:
"Sprint Said to Announce Kyocera Smartphone With Android at New York Event"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...martphone-with-android-at-new-york-event.html
[Epic 4G General] ttieder:
What time is announcement
[Epic 4G General] Gersonian:
Event is set for 6pm eastern

There better be more to this than an kyocera announcement. That's just lame.
[Epic 4G General] ryno502:
HTC Arrive (Windows Phone 7) will also be announced. Its probably the HTC 7 Pro that has been floating around for a while. The Kyocera Echo (aka Sanyo Orange) sounds interesting. Finally a high-end device from Sanyo? Possibly. Hopefully its better than the crappy Zio.
[Epic 4G General] ttieder:
I'm still hoping for a dual core 3d phone and hopefully wimax nd lte together but we will see if that's the announcement is very dissapointing
[Epic 4G General] ttieder:
Seems like the echo is going to be a dual touch screen phone that's what it is I guess david blaine going to show two screens on a phone preety gay
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
there going to announce a 2.2 update for epic..

but really, its gonna be a dual core, 3d, or iphone, or nationwide 4g. something between those lines..
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Guy to posts up is spot on. Ill post this in its own thread too.

http://phandroid.com/2011/02/07/spr...ng/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Sent from my non-rooted, stock Epic.
[Epic 4G General] OregonLAN:
According to Bloomberg, the announcement will be a Kyrocera Echo Android device. What that is, we will see.

I wonder why type of parlor trick David Blane has up his sleeve. I bet the whole audience is in on it, like most of his "magic". :)

I want to see real magic, Sprint! How about you put some pressure on Samsung to fix the Epic and release an official/stable 2.2 update and source.
[Epic 4G General] bbb8882:
Wow, THAT's what we been waiting for. industrial FIRST dual screen phone power by a AA battery....
[Epic 4G General] Nunchucker:
I don't know that any current announcements will make me want to switch phones any time soon. The Epic currently fills every computing functionality that I can think of. It's certainly fast enough to fill all of my mobile needs. The only improvements I'd ask for would be related to the network. (also,a custom Gingerbread or Honeycomb phone rom, but those are just aesthetics)
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Tri hspa+ lte and wimax2 iPhone 5
[Epic 4G General] Gersonian:
No try this
[Epic 4G General] snowmanwithahat:
I'm dissapointed...
[Epic 4G General] BlueDrgBlade:
Don't you mean they are buying Sprint?? HAHA I think it will either be Nation wide "4G" (not true 4G but eh) or its the IPhone.
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
It's just the Kyocera Echo, if you search on sprints web page it comes up as almost ready to show
[Epic 4G General] schnowdapowda:
HAHA How would the iphone be an industry first?? And nationwide 4g isn't gonna happen. Probably not ever. (Not tryin to be a **** but that's how you respond to other peoples speculations.)

cd's or tapes?
[Epic 4G General] deisel:
David blane is going to be put in ice and will not come out till the epic gets froyo. LOL
[Epic 4G General] snowmanwithahat:
Originally their slogan was "making the impossible possible" in which case the iPhone 4, or SVDO would be perfectly legit things.

I think it's still possible that SVDO could be launched here soon. Verizon's in a position to do it... I'd imagine sprint isn't too far behind
[Epic 4G General] qhinton:
After the Moment I will never buy another Samsung phone.
[Epic 4G General] diego1985:
Samsung is probably gonna launch their new epics. And you know what their slogan is going to be? "Buy now pray later"
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Just went to sprint store and they think it is the dual screen bimbo. My personal opinion is that, in following old Palm, are going to announce that some phones will be available in a new color.

Whenever there is this much hype it usually amounts to zip...
[Epic 4G General] Skrewup5:
i guess its some echo dual screen phone?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/07/sprint-announcement-kyocera-echo_n_819832.html
[Epic 4G General] AndrewZorn:
Wow, I thought you guys were using David Blaine as a joke.

But the bigger joke is that a phone is less of a big deal than they make it out to be (for a carrier) and more of a big deal than a software update for its existing customers.
[Epic 4G General] Skrewup5:
I know, im really hoping its something mind blasting. if not, well the most i can do is just be very disappointed. but im hoping for something badass. maybe a time travel machine?
[Epic 4G General] :
engadget it giving a blow-by-blow of the event 'live'.... just have to hit F5 every 30 seconds

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/07/live-from-sprints-industry-first-event-with-dan-hesse-and/
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
..and of course it's that ugly ass Kyocera dual screen phone. Whoopity doo. Making the impossible possible...turning a Nintendo DS into a phone without the whole Nintendo part.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
sprint: Hesse introducing the first ever Android, dual screen mobile device. The Kyocera Echo! Available this Spring for $199!

Sent from my non-rooted, stock Epic.
[Epic 4G General] boominz28:
dude quit hating , i think its pretty cool. what other carriers have dual screens.

plus if you were expecting them to make the big announcment on the epic update then you should get your head out of the clouds.

it looks nothing like the pic from earlier. wonder about the specs though
[Epic 4G General] ms79723:
Just go to live blog and turn on auto-refresh.
[Epic 4G General] bryanfritz1:
Its only 4.7 inchs for both screens, but that you can have two apps open on either screen could be nice. IMHO this is not the industry first I was hoping for, I was more along the lines of better integration of sprint ID or maybe something software update oriented. :-P

sent from "The Other Woman"
[Epic 4G General] ms79723:
"simultasking"... that phone better have a good processor or somethin or that battery life is gonna get tanked. And if the battery life is actually really good, then thats good for the rest of Android because they could look at that phone and see waht it did right.
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
The way this announcement was hyped, this is pretty lame. Of course no one was expecting them to announce a phone update for pete's sake. Kyocera/Sanyo make low grade crap for the most part.
[Epic 4G General] Gersonian:
Echo page is live on sprint

Sorry, Sprint, this is a really lame announcement for such a big to do. Also, there need to be a few other announcements at the end that have nothign to do with the latest piece of crap from Sprint.
[Epic 4G General] boominz28:
ok but how many people on here said updates? and if you dont like there stuff then dont buy it. I for one think its pretty cool and they were right it is an INDUSTRY first.
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
they better give one to all of us epic people or i hate them
[Epic 4G General] ms79723:
You're being too nice. This is straight up garbage. It's like a DS phone. I mean really...why would anyone need two screens? I've never used my phone and was like "man, I wish I had two screens..."

Android is getting crazy. I'd much rather have them working on the phones out now and making them perfect than this crap.
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
lol. sims... yes, a ds phone...
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
PLEASE, let this have a worse xda community than the epic... PPPPLLLLLEEEEAAASSSEEE
[Epic 4G General] chino0131:
This is a real dissapointment IMHO. I was expecting more from Sprint to be honest...idk why anymore. Despite what most think about the company, Ive always tried to give them my support. No more. To me, this shows that they dont know what consumers want and desire in their smartphones in todays market. And as a business owner, sticking with and supoorting a company that has no idea what consumers want is bad business.
[Epic 4G General] ms79723:
Look at that. They are providing a second battery. Basically, that means that they didnt do anything to actual make sure that the battery will last long. They just threw two screens together and are hoping for the best. If this doesnt have a dual core processor, its gonna be nasty. Just imagine...loading two browsers at once with one processor. Hell, even with 2 processors thats crazy. Battery life gonna be a joke.

What is going on with Android? It's ruining itself. The only reason why its still making it is because hardcore Android users love these little toys and we'll keep on buying these things and we'll keep on complaining about the same problems! Eff this two screen phone.
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
If sprint saw this thread, they would be crying... "We... We tried so hard to make something great... :("
[Epic 4G General] chino0131:
Yea, its an industry first....the industry first "high end" Android phone that makes Apple more appealing than android.
[Epic 4G General] spyderfry:
OMG. My first thought on seeing the phone was Nintendo DS. Lame. I don't care if it's as thin as a piece of paper and the hinge can withstand blow from the Incredible Hulk. This is still junk, junk, junk with Sprint's name all over it. *Sigh*
[Epic 4G General] ms79723:
haha, Sprint is just gambling. That's what it all is now. They gambled with 4G and the Evo and now this.

I'm willing to bet that as soon as that phone is released you'll see threads in its forum talking about battery life saving tips. The first thing they'll say to do is only use one screen -.-

I'm just upset right now. This is ridiculous. I seriously cannot think of a time where using both screens would actually be a good idea. Why use two screens when I got a notification bar? There aint nothin in the world that important on my phone where I would need to use two screens at once. So far everyone who's ever owned a phone has managed to deal with one screen...this is just too much.
[Epic 4G General] a2tz:
Seems rather over hyped to me also. It seems like it might be cool for youngsters and their facebooks but I personally would rather have a keyboard......

Oh well I have one and am happy!
[Epic 4G General] jeffyv2:
It comes with 2 batteries...

sent from my Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
It has two screens because when you get pissed at it because of horrible battery life, slow data, and FC's and punch it you will still have a working screen!
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
This is actually kinda fun...I'm lookin forward to watching everybody flail about with this phone...

Just imagine...the daunting software support...ha!

Oh and by the way...its not dual core. And this is even better...not 4g..

"You can play a youtube video and start buffering more!"

"On crappy 3g!"

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Idk how to react to that pathetic announcement overhyped/terrible

sprint is going to be left in the dust
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
Oh and I reeeeeaaaallllllyyyy love the fact that when you're using it as a normal phone, the front face is totally asymmetrical. Because EVERYBODY hates nice clean symmetrical things. Yeah

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] ms79723:
I mentioned that. Having two batteries is besides the point. Why would anyone want to carry around 2 batteries from the start? You just know that battery life is gonna be abysmal
[Epic 4G General] deisel:
Wow that's so dumb it should come with a pack of Trident layers in the box lmfao
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
Here's the specs

http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...irst-dual-touchscreen-smartphone-kyocera-echo

· Single-Screen Mode with all the functionality of a single-display touchscreen smartphone

· Simul-Task™ Mode with two of the phone’s seven core apps running concurrently but independently on the device’s dual displays

· Optimized Mode with both displays supporting a single, optimized app with complementary functionality and enhanced usability

· Tablet Mode with one application spread across both screens for a full 4.7-inch viewing area

PRODUCTIVITY

· Dual 3.5-inch LCD WVGA (800 x 480 pixels) capacitive touchscreens (4.7 inches diagonally and 800 x 960 pixels when opened)

· Android 2.2 with access to more than 100,000 apps

· Wi-Fi hotspot capability (supports up to 5 devices)*

· VueQue™, a pre-loaded app that lets users watch a YouTube™ video in one display, while browsing, queuing and buffering additional YouTube videos on the other

· GoogleTM mobile services including Google SearchTM, Google MapsTM, Google TalkTM instant message, GmailTM, YouTubeTM, and synchronization with Google CalendarTM

· Full HTML Web browser with Google search, optimized for dual-screen experience

· Sprint Zone™ one-stop wireless account access, phone tips, news and more

· Access to Telenav GPS Navigator and Sprint TV & Movies®

· Corporate (MS Exchange ActiveSync) and personal (POP & IMAP) email access

· Messaging – personal and business email, Google TalkTM instant message and text messaging

· Network – 3G data speeds (EVDO Rev A) – peak download speeds of 3.1 Mbps; peak upload speeds of 1.8 Mbps; average download speeds 600 kbps - 1.4 Mbps

· Wi-Fi: (802.11 b/g)

ENTERTAINMENT

· 5MP camera with flash, autofocus and 2x digital zoom and 720p HD camcorder

· High-quality video streaming and downloads at 3G speeds

· Media player with 3.5mm stereo headset jack

· Stereo Bluetooth® 2.1 + EDR

· Digital compass, accelerometer, proximity sensor, light sensor, GPS

· Expandable memory: 8GB microSD card included; supports cards up to 32GB

SPECIFICATIONS

· 1GHz Snapdragon processor (QSD 8650 Android)

· Dimensions: 115.0 x 56.5 x 17.2mm, Weight: 193g (6.8 oz.)

· Main display: Dual 3.5-inch WVGA capacitive touchscreens (800 x 480 pixels or

800 x 960 pixels when opened)

· Removable 1370mAh battery; includes spare battery (1370 mAh) with portable charger that can also tether to the phone as an external power supply

· Memory: 1GB/512MB; 8GB microSD™ included

The fact it's 3G only doesn't speak well for Sprint in my opinion.
[Epic 4G General] running_the_dream:
Definitely looks like a DS knock-off with Kyocera hardware (ill). I'm sure it will be cool for some people. But, it looks too mechanical with it's huge hinge and huge borders separating the two screens. Probably wouldn't be much fun to me trying to utilize both screens. But, it will make some demographic happy.
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
I can already call the echo a flop for 3 reasons:

1.Underwhelming hardware means even phone geeks won't find it attractive

2.By having the hinge it loses any value as a pseudo-tablet because you have an obstructed 4.7 inch screen

3. Not even the slightest bit future-proofed, launching on old software and dated software, not to mention that it lacks 4G which while still a gimmick is th final nail in its coffin when you still have the $10 add on.
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
From engadget's hands on:

Not sure I understand the point of "multi-tasking on two screens" if you can't actually multitask.
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
Thanks, but no Thanks. This thing should have been released last year
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
WOW! This thing got Froyo before the Epic......:mad:
[Epic 4G General] xjman:
I laugh.
[Epic 4G General] Skrewup5:
but there is good news though. if this was the reason why we havent gotten froyo yet, they no longer have an excuse
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
If that was the reason we didn't have froyo they never had one, the Echo is just painful to look at and think how much money Sprint wasted on getting an exclusive that no other carrier wanted.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
IKR....Damn **** should've been an iphone 8(
[Epic 4G General] running_the_dream:
LOL! Indeed!
[Epic 4G General] wynand32:
What this means most to me is that I'll really have to gamble on this Epic and my 30-day return date of 2/11. Unless HP really knocks my socks off, I'll have to decide: keep the Epic with the notion that anything Sprint announces at MWC or CTIA won't ship until this summer, or return the Epic and hope that they ship something better (e.g., dual-core) in the March timeframe.

I'm leaning toward a Feb-Mar announcement of the replacement for the Evo, with a ship date sometime in June. Meaning, I might as well keep the Epic and hope for the best in terms of updates, because I sure don't want to go back to my Pre until this summer.

Something tells me I might regret whatever decision I make... And something else tells me that HP isn't going to bale me out, at least not on Sprint.
[Epic 4G General] decalex:
Hm. It's pretty ugly imo. And man, the comments already up there on the sprint page are brutal.

But it is different. I'll give them that. And I think it has the potential to inspire some actually "nice" looking devices. All if of the open black space around the screens makes it look cheesy.
[Epic 4G General] mxcoldhit:
Wow, just wow wow wow wow wow. Sprint has lost their mind. How could they think this was the greatest thing ever. They stayed true to the "industry first". The industries first to flop every possible great chance any carrier has ever had. I only stay with sprint because of their plan prices. If they raise those to the same as the competitors then I'm gone.

Sent from my Shoe.... I mean my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
can I get a link. I wanna read em
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
http://m.gizmodo.com/5754281/kyoceras-double+headed-echo-is-nothing-more-than-mutant

Android Creative Syndicate- From spontaneous ingenuity, comes creative brilliance
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
I don't know... Maybe it's just been the weather.. the false hope about Froyo... Now hearing this I think Sprint has officially broken my will.
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
I'm just left wondering who thought the Echo was not only a good idea but a good enough idea to get an official announcement..
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
i think sprint is trying to get bankrupt/chase away their customers from embarrassment
[Epic 4G General] Heelfan71:
Industry first FAIL.
[Epic 4G General] Kitteh298:
Amazing.. goddamit samsung and sprint.

From My Samsung Epic Using TapaTalk
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
Kyocera refused to let Sony hog all the videogame phone glory with their xperia play so they made a DS phone that features absolutely no useful features