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[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
I don't worship anyone except the AKB48 girls -_-

Coddle them for what? This is basic knowledge of how working life goes, kiddo. Like I said, wait till you grow up, get a real job, and you'll know. And it's a natural thing to voice out or help those who are being wronged. But in this case, they aren't being wronged. They are just being attacked. A normal passer-by, seeing a hoodlum beingf beaten up, you'd still go help that hoodlum no matter how bad a person he is, right? Same theory. You don't go against your conscience and see people under fire when you can help.

You can claim to be older than 20, and I can claim that I'm a hot chick with a body to die for -_-

And no, I don't defend Sony Ericsson just because I own their phone or I love them. It's just because I happen to lurk around the Sony Ericsson section because I need information. If I need to be at HTC, or anywhere else, and see whiners not appreciating the companies of the products they got from, I'll still try to wake up their ideas. IT'S ABOUT EDUCATING PEOPLE THE VALUE OF CONTENT. TO MAKE THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE. Even if they are rude or 'squared', just abandon them and get another brand's phone, for cripe's sake. Does whining and spreading negative energy around help?

They did not force you to buy their products. YOU are the one who did not do enough research on the pros and cons of the phone and bought it. With expectations some more. I don't like Apple. do you see me go to Apple forums and make noise? Ok you might say I might be using different identities to do it, but well, I no I don't do such things and that's for me to know and for you to believe.

Even your intention is to garner more people to step onto your side of the line, do you think of the consequences? Instead of making Sony Ericsson bother about your actions, it's like irritating neutral people into voicing out and then starting arguments. Chances are, it's Sony Ericsson who gets the last laugh.

If I'm an Sony Ericsson lover, then you're an Apple lover. Don't ask me for the randomness. You can make accusations at me, so I, too, can make baseless accusations at you -_- I really have no idea how you can accuse me of that when earlier on I've already made a disclaimer that I'm not a brand-loyal person.

And how would you know that I might really be a 13-year-old kid? -_- At least I don't whine like you, even if I may be a kid. I don't go around finding faults in the products I buy and whine online. And actually, by calling me 13, you are actually making me happy =D. I mean, who doesn't wanna stay young forever?? So if you are looking to insult me with this, too bad~

And for your information, emoticons like "=X" or whatever is not a way to act cute. In the cybernetic world, it's hard to relay your tone of expression by transcripts. So it's kinda hard to know whether you're being hostile or not.

By putting a "=X", I was trying to tell agent I did not perceive his message as an attack, so I showed an 'ok' expression. So that we can have a real discussion and exchange of opinions rather than arguments like this -_-
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
hmm you may be right in this sense, but these are all surface deductions. I'm basing on the fact that I am in the advertising industry (graphic designer), and alot of people have this impression that advertising agencies earn alot. Right and wrong. Although the quotations are high, but there will be losses incurred because of hiccups, delays or technical issues. The company will have to bear huge costs.

That's why I say we shouldn't judge based on the surface information. We don't even know what is happening behind the scenes.
[XPERIA X10 General] Ether_Man:
It probably will be once the lawsuit is actually properly turned in. Right now it's probably still only known to the people working at the local court, some at SE themself and those that know people in those situations. Since from what I read on it, the case is entirely technical so I doubt witnesses will be needed any more than some market expert that can witness on behalf of how long a smartphone generally should last. I think the most intresting thing will be how SE will argue about how smartphones are designed to last less time than a normal contract binds you for :)
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Considering SE's recent public statements regarding the future of the X10, they aren't too concerned about it. It makes me wonder what US law is in these matters. AT&T is said to declare end of life for the X10 in March. That's only about 8 months since it was introduced.
[XPERIA X10 General] javagreen:
In which case I can claim I'd love to have your number ;) LOL

Peace, guys.
[XPERIA X10 General] wasiimabbas:
They r just screwing again ,

Hate SE , bunch of idiots ,
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
Then get out of this section. I'm sure they, or us, in fact, will be happy that you do that =D
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Instead of turning this into a flame thread(and getting it closed), could someone tell me why SE chose not to give us froyo? (I know their bs abt UXP not improving drastically or whatever) but is there a logical explanation other than they don't want to waste financial resources?
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
So that we are stuck with ancient OS and abandon it for a new phone with a new OS.

Evil corporation agenda. Muahahaha
[XPERIA X10 General] Ether_Man:
Quite true. Sweden is a small market, even if it is home. And besides, swedes in general are renowned for not finishing what we start as well :)
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
It's really a simple, reasonable, and logical decision that most people seem to have missed the second they heard no froyo in SE's statement. What people don't seem to understand is that it took 8 months of additional development customizing generic/vanilla Android 2.1 to bring us the unique fully loaded 2.1 X10 user experience with Timescape, Mediascape, Face Recognition, custom UI, etc, and they are still working on it. All the other companies that people are saying are lesser phones but they got 2.2 update are running generic/vanilla Android. There is no enhanced or unique user experience or additional development. In fact they all look and operate basically the same. The X10 was never designed to compete with those phones. Those phones came with a base model generic OS, where the X10 came with an unique, fully loaded experience on a slightly dated OS. We all should have understood this when we bought our phones. SE only ever said the X10 was updateable to 2.1. Froyo was our idea.

That being said, it would take another 8 months of additional development for SE to fit 2.2+ with the enhanced fully loaded X10 user experience. Where other companies need only implement the next update. So the only way SE could bring us 2.2+ in a timely manner would be to strip away the enhanced fully loaded X10 experience and go generic/vanilla Android. Why would they want to do that? That's like asking a creative artist to start painting hotel room art just because he could sell more paintings.

They never said they were not going to continue to update the X10. Basically they feel the enhanced 2.1 fully loaded X10 experience is a fair alternative to generic 2.2, so they decided to continue to develop their unique experience rather than go vanilla/generic. We have things nobody else has, and they have things we don't have but are all the same. You may now prefer vanilla Android over the unique X10 experience, but that is your fault for buying the unique experience and then changing your mind. SE shouldn't have to dump their vision mid-product.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Finally something that makes sense without talking about money.

Although, they could spend another 8 months to give us froyo.. as a later update.. right?
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Then you have to bring up money, time, and human resources. They haven't got 2.1 smooth yet. What makes you think 2.2 would be any easier? They are 75% done with their vision for 2.1, now they should start over just to bring a few 2.2 changes that are nice improvements but not mandatory by any means? It wouldn't greatly improve the user experience. You have to make a sound business decision. It's SE not SC.. Santa Claus :-). They're busy with the Arc too.

Another thing to consider is that the other devices getting 2.2 came with 2.1, meaning one major OS upgrade. The only real possibility that is in hindsight they could have skipped 2.1 and gone right to 2.2. However, since day one they have said updateable to 2.1, so they are perfectly within their rights. Again, you have to admit Froyo 2.2 was our idea, not SE's. SE's idea was a unique enhanced X10 user experience. You can want and wish they would change to vanilla/generic, but don't expect it.
[XPERIA X10 General] wasiimabbas:
Valid point..........
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Most people in Canada (me included) had to sign 3 year contracts to get this phone :(
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
How is that valid? The discussion was about November this year.
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Your points were all valid up until the last paragraph...fraud? Well I don't think SE would be the first to go...They did not advertise the product on display that they cannot deliver. When we all bought the 1.6 X10, what was promised "on the ad" that you can identify and was not delivered? I'm not talking about blog posts and stuff, I'm talking about things that are printed in the store where you got your phone because that what you see and what you agreed to get when you paid the money. Now, for the fruit brand, they advertised "on the ad" that their computer monitor was "16 million color" while in reality it isn't. That's what you called fraud and they got sued big time. Also, there's no way the Consumer Protection Law or the administration would even consider this case, because the phone does not limit the usability of one and it was agreed upon your purchase for its capability. Just because your desire to have something that is not "necessary" for daily life operation does not mean they would look upon the case. Ok, please, using flash on a website or wanting a faster phone is not enough of a reason. :mad:
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Welp, sorry to break the opinion that it never happen, and will never happen since they always give an official statement regarding their changes. [shrugs]
[XPERIA X10 General] agentJBM:
Complaining directly to SE as a concerned customer is different than the whining, bashing, and twisting information that is going on in xda. The first is the mature correct way to handle your complaints, where the second is immature and ineffective.

Fraud really? They never said anything other than updateable to 2.1. Maybe the whiners should be held liable for malicious defamation of character?
[XPERIA X10 General] :
Sorry, I don't know what you're talking about.

At this point, I don't remember any 'attack' from me to SE. There's a big difference between attacking and questioning. Im questioning because there are points that deserve to be questioned, but it seems like SE defenders doesn't want to see them, and buddy, the worst blind is that one whom doesn't want to see. So I recommend you this one more time: before saying Im attacking without arguments, READ MY POSTS.

Whatever are your sexual preferences, buddy, I don't care :D

I know how valuable X10 is, but I also know all the potential that this phone has and that SE hasn't unlock. The point is that, not the 'failure' of the phone, a wrong concept because for me, this phone doesn't fail, it just doesn't deliver all is capable to do. Once again, you aren't reading my posts and you're just seeing what you want to see, and calling everyone "whiner" is just out of place and an invalid argument... Wait, it isn't even an argument.

And it isn't about abandoning the company, at least Im asking for explanations and hoping SE become a better company in the future. I repeat it again: Im not saying I won't buy another SE, if there's a good phone (wich for me, is not Arc) in two years, I'll go for it. If you say it's about educating ppl I accept that, but first educate yourself and learn to read carefully what others say.

Wrong. I wanted a X10 since the first moment I saw it. I read all the specs. And guess what? I could get an iPhone 4, but I chose the Xperia instead. And I don't regret about my decision, but you aren't getting the point, so I'll explain it to you again: The phone is great, but it CAN be greater. SE had the decision, and they decided not to do it. That's the reason of all these threads and arguments.

No, that's not my intention. But, as a popular mexican quote says: "if the coat fits you, wear it" and this coat doesn't fit me, so I don't wear it. Sorry.

I never accused you. Guy, you need help :eek:... Please learn to read correctly.

And I don't see the point of mentioning Apple here...

No comments. When ppl start to take the thread in a personal way and without valid arguments, I rather to stop discussing. Sorry bud, but I won't answer to you again unless you give a decent opinion and not that... And personally, I don't tolerate those silly faces, no matter what purpose you use them for.
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
Questioning is a form of distrust. What difference is it from attacking? You could have left them alone, but noooooo -_- And you expect me to waste my time to stalk on your old posts?? Zzzzzz

I don't think we are even friends, so don't call me 'buddy' -_-

It has already delivered what it's capable of - make calls, surf net, multimedia player, camera. So maybe you aren't a whiner. Instead you just wanna seek attention. You claim to say you are asking for explanations. Then why are you asking here? It's not as if any of us are CEOs of Sony Ericsson. So do you think it helps at all? Well I rather you not buy again if you keep on harboring expectations. Lol asking this kettle to educate himself, eh? Mr Pot? And if you want it to be a better company, why not you buy over the company and change the business direction?

If you don't regret it, you won't be whi... err... 'questioning' about the phone. YOU CANNOT KEEP ON HAVING EXPECTATIONS. You have to embrace its flaws as well, which, in this case, is 2.1. They did not even promise 2.2. So why keep going for their throats? It's not as if they will not be continuing on updating the phone. Just no OS upgrades. Does such a commitment deserved to be named a lesser company?

If you don't wear it, then give the coat to the needy. As a popular Singaporean quote say, "Don't waste your food. The XXX country's children don't even have the chance to eat" (sorry I put "XXX country" cos I feel that if I name the country I'd be a 'countryist'. Sorry can't think of the right word now. Something like racist, sexist etc context, but on a national level). In another words, Learn to appreciate and make do with it. Not everybody who wishes to own it, get to own it.

Called me an SE defender now you are gonna shrug it off? -_-

My points are valid, just that you choose not to accept them -_- And for someone who doesn't tolerate silly faces, you did well with yourself posting an emoticon. And since you have expressed your intolerance, then why would you expect me, or anybody else, for that matter, to tolerate you? -_-
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
I'm sorry but this part really doesn't make much sense. Do you think all forums should shut down because there aren't any CEOs participating in them? The whole point is to facilitate discussion
[XPERIA X10 General] :
As I said, ppl like this guy who take a discussion in a more personal level deserve to be ignored.

You're just repeating the same arguments, answering to you would make me to do the same, so... Meh.

Ah, yeah, just for your learning:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Questioning

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Yeah, well he even contradicted his own words without even knowing. Oh well, let's just leave him to do the lawsuits himself if he believes he'll win the case, or the court would even hear his case :rolleyes: The blog never posted anything beyond 2.1. Official words were dis-engaged by another official words. There's no channel he can use to use as proof. "Unless" SE NEVER clarified their statements, which they never did. Good luck! :p
[XPERIA X10 General] :
Yeah, in fact, there's no proof. The sad history is that there is no synchronization between SE main base and SE branch offices around the world. Fake information came from an official source and now is nothing. That doesn't say very good things about the seriousness of a company.

Yeah, good luck 'cause we at least expect that this doesn't happen again.
[XPERIA X10 General] reptile64:
People PLEeeeeASE quit talking about 2.2 2.3 etc and wasting your time... it's pointless!! :-(
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
We promote positive discussions on how to make the most out of what we have. Not to complain this and that.

I mean, do you gain anything by complaining there isn't 2.2? And worse, most of you guys here support hacking. So I presume alot of you already has custom 2.2 in your phones. So I don't see the point of cursing and complaining, right?
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
Yeah, yeah... go hide behind your mommy since you can't outtalk this guy, kiddo -_-
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
expectations = childish wants. grow up -_-
[XPERIA X10 General] :
All right little guy, you don't let me more option but to do this:

STOP your ****. You've being annoying a lot lately. I don't damn care how old you are, if you defend SE or not, I don't even care who you are, but judging by your nick, yes, you are a very LONELY guy who doesn't have nothing and no one else but these forums and probably no even that. But you can't call "whining" and "childish wants" a different opinion from yours just because you only see what you want to see in a foolish way.

Don't come here trying to teach us "what life is", I only know you by what you type. I don't damn care if you are the most mature guy in the world, for me you're only a guy whining and trying to be against almost everyone who has a different point of view than yours (heck, your comments in the devs. war thread are the proof of what I say) That's not an attitude of a mature guy. Get rid of those silly otaku faces and learn to respect the opinions of others and the work of the devs. You're the one who should grow up. This is XDA, when we find many different points of view, if you want to see only praises to SE or any other company then go to a forum dedicated to do that. If you criticize the devs. for what they claiming, then just don't use their custom ROMs. What they do is a great job and we should thank them for giving us the chance of using A2.2 and A2.3 in our Xperias, as we will never see those versions from an official source. They (the devs.) have problems, yes, they will know how to solve them. After all yes, they deserve some kind of credits for doing that, smart guy. It's not a crime to modify a ROM if you aren't making some kind of a business with it, as far as I know they aren't selling them. Asking for donating doesn't mean profit.

If you wanna take this in a personal way, fine, but at least make it private, or maybe you need to catch the attention of others... But I tell you that this is my very final answer to you, 'cause I don't have any interest on discussing with a loggerhead who's only offending, criticizing and calling everyone "whiner". So I won't even read your answer, 'cause is useless and a waste of time reading your nonsense repeating words. As I don't wanna be banned, I just can't pay more attention to you taking this in a higher level, you simply don't worth it.

Ah, yes, Im going with my mom to say "hello mom!" and talk with her about more important things, because this forum is a good hobbie, and just that. Two questions for you: Is this forum your life? & Do you have mom?
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Well, this is XDA. What do you mean 'most of you guys here support hacking'...DUH

That's why people come here

And regarding the 2.2 roms - obviously I would prefer stock SE 2.2 over 2.1 for so many reasons - I've listed them many times and I'm not going to do it again. Again, I'm not complaining, merely trying to figure out why they would make such a decision
[XPERIA X10 General] Jmercy09:
lol this is funny...
[XPERIA X10 General] shihte:
yeah,custom room 2.2 is only solution.lets hope that it will be fully working soon
[XPERIA X10 General] yvaditya:
Flame wars missing the whole point. There is no official update. Go home and play with custom roms if u have time. Get a new one if u are rich. Nxt time buy a nexus if u need latest android to live.
[XPERIA X10 General] MJ_QaT:
Reasons to why SE will not go beyond 2.1 has been listed many times, and I'm not going to list them again

And not all XDA members here support hacking, do not generalize what you are, there are many here who don't support it and came here to gain knowledge about their handset or to help others

indeed +1
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
I'm sorry if I offended you :O

LOL
[XPERIA X10 General] MJ_QaT:
Non taken LoL ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
I annoy people who deserves it. Now you know how annoying it is to whi... err... question about stuff that are redundant, huh?

loneLEE is a play on my surname. At least I feel it sounds cooler than happiLEE or whatever, but well, at least I can think up about something which I can proclaim to be 'creative', and play with my name, can you? -_- Sorry for disappointing you if you think this can faze me. At least I am trying to make people around me see things in a positive manner, not like you, just want and want and want.

Lol. Regarding that topic. Pity I couldn't reply there to retaliate. Ah, well... Next opportunities, I guess. Whoa. Who's the bigger fanboy here? Can't even use English properly and choose to use 'otaku'. You just made my day again with yet another contradiction of yours. Lol. Boy, you are so full of surprises. I never said to defend Sony Ericsson (oh wait. Didn't some kid deny calling me that earlier? *rolleyes*)

Deja vu...

Anyway, I'm not asking anybody to speak nice about them. They are a big corporations. And big corporations only care about the companies. Not the customers. I'm just saying there are other interesting topics we can discuss about, like how great Timescape and Mediascape is, or ways to improve our current user experience, or cool apps to install. Not 'why they don't let us have the bootloader access etc' And for your info, and maybe only the heaven can vouch for me, is that I have never, and will never condone to hacking. My phone is on official OS. You'd think I'd slap myself by telling others hacking is bad while I do it myself??? What I'm saying is that they ar petty and kicking up a fuss about the credits thingee. If the first developer started out and credit the work to himself instead of the source, then it's only fair the second person doesn't credit the former. What goes around, come around.

It's not about catching attention. I don't like to hide from everybody to express myself. This is called voicing out. At least this'll set others thinking, be it good or bad. If I wanna catch attention, I'd set up numerous topics instead of trying my best to convince people one by one. -_-

So all my typings have gone to waste due to your denial. GREAT.

Forum ain't my life. My life is to make the world a better place. -_- And, I don't wish to reveal, but since you asked, NO I HAVE NO MOM. MY MOM PASSED AWAY 7 YEARS AGO. HAPPY??? If you wanna say I'm making things up to garner sympathy, or continue your childish taunts by making use of this point to strike at me, go ahead. -_-