yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Aren't there things worse than this?

Btw: D-Two's 6.5.5 Multilang is still one of the best ones i know, even considered to those for other devices i played with in the last months,

and still hope one day beyond PXA Droid he'll create a SDHC-bootloader for it, just to avoid getting bored.

(With this it would be absolutely unique:fingers-crossed:)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
So the NAND install will be ready by the end of the week?

Will all features (phone) work? If so, I'll switch. After installing NAND Android, can one go back to WM?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
He only said that after this week, he'll have two weeks free so he can continue development of PXA Droid and associated projects. Whether he finishes it right on the first free day or if he doesn't finish it at the end of the two weeks, it's something we (and he) must wait to see. You know, ETAs work bad with machines, let alone humans doing free-time projects.

From what's been said (and from my own experiments with a non-working version of PXA-Loader) one can go back to WM by flashing a WM ROM (or by restoring a backup made with HTC Flasher).
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
Oh ok. Thanks for clarifying! Just to make sure, both WM and Android cannot be installed right? NAND is too small....

Thanks,

TheAH

www.theah.tk
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
I wonder if it would be possible to install WM in some Partition of 32GB SDHC and run it out of Android...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] GnatGoSplat:
Just wondering, was kernel 3.5 ever released to the public? The CM7.2 download link dated 2012-6-10 doesn't specify what kernel it comes with.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
That would be cool-backwards of the non nand project :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
Guys,which verision of "Virtual Box" and "Ubuntu" are the best for flashing SDCard and install android ?:eek:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
You can go with the latest, it truly makes no difference... As for virtual box, you might as well just use the LiveCD option if you are avoiding an OS installation.

Sent from mALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
Dear can u say which SDCard is best for BA under WM6.5 for installing android ?

SDHC ? SD ? Which ?:p
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
For the no nand version you need a normal SD Card...

If the nand version is release you can use every SD or SDHC card...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
why IF THE NAND VERSION IS RELEASE ? :\
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
We saw a video of it working so it's silly if you don't release it at least for the BA (assuming DoC G3 drivers never get written).
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
Mr D-Two and the others: i wanna say something about my problems as an Amateur member who wanna instal android on BA.

a big problem was about the Ubuntu.iso verision !!!

i Downloaded the last version of ubuntu and i flashed my SDCard ... But when i was opening Herat.exe, it was hangig on Linux booting mode ...

Nobody can help me about this ... so today i changed Ubuntu version to 12.04 !!! and today i Surprised. i can working with android on my BA.

the problem was ubuntu version...

Now i think the speed of android is very very law ... Mr D-Two is your BA android with law speed too ?

tell me about this. and when i wanna make a call its make an error . why ? it need to reinstall ?;)

---------- Post added at 06:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:55 PM ----------

and i dont have battery grade ... it shown 0 % ... can i fix it with a application ?

when i wanna call,it says : mobile network not avlaible !!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
the solution is put BA under charge lol
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
I presume D-two won't release unless it runs without too many special steps, otherwise he'll have to spend more time in explaining and re-explaining, as there are always some people out there who neither read nor - if they really do - understand even the best how-to.

And of course he's got his own sense of quality.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
And if some people like you can help perfect, we can done this well !!!

i do allthing perfect but with ubuntu 14 !!!

today i can do these with Ubuntu 12.04 Mr !!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
But please always remember this is a Beta release yet, so of course there are some things not working properly.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
More or less off-topic: today I was given a pretty old HTC phone... with a damaged case... and oh look, it's so old the antenna still sticks out. Yeah, I'm talking about the HTC Wallaby. With 64 MB RAM, 32 MB ROM, a non-Intel 200 MHz ARM processor and no WiFi or Bluetooth, this thing (apart from being a nice paper weight) is pretty good at... Excel and MP3 playing (too bad I don't have headphones for it, and my non-HC SD card is being used on the BA). There don't appear to be any custom ROMs for it...

Such a device will never get any love from PXA Loader, let alone Android, right? :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Sorry, you are wrong. Unfortunately we can't post in the wallaby thread any more. I've got a SX56 which is identic... and D-two knows about it ;)

Upgrading Wallaby generally was futile because of storage limitations

rings a bell?

(You see it may be not in focus but not out of sight. )

P.S.:i'll collect the files i've got and PM you.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
Right now the Wallaby is sitting on my desk charging next to my BA... I keep thinking of what I could do with it. I installed Total Commander on it, and even this simple thing was a pain: I had to put the cab on the SD card I use on the BA, then transfer the cab to the Wallaby with the BA (over IR), and finally install the cab. You may ask, "why didn't you put the SD card right on the Wallaby?". Well, when I put my SD card in it asks me to format it and says its needed to do so before I can use it with that Pocket PC... of course I don't want to lose the data I have there just to do a few experiments with the Wallaby.

Without WiFi or Bluetooth (and of course I don't want to pay for a GPRS connection), getting a internet connection to the Wallaby is pretty hard (I could use USB, but that requires me to have a Windows PC running - not that usual, since I mostly use Linux). I have no IR-tower I can use to build a internet-over-IR link.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Quite funny which problems you guys have with these devices... I don't have those problems using Activeync. As i said: i'll take a look and PM you.

edit: gosh! no sd card, no gprs, no winSys... Maybe your suspenders will work. I wish you all the best!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
Guys i cant making a call and i cant reciving call on Android !!! what should i do ? error: force close:eek:

---------- Post added at 12:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:02 PM ----------

and i have no sound ...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
is an alpha release phone not working!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Lucky YOU won't get some weird eMail containing "German Dog".

I told him the same as you and are sick of IT.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] koalauk:
I didnt get this
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
It was part of a PM sent to me after telling the same as L]e[G.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
Off topic... Is there a way to shut off the BA?

Like on other phones - Hold power button down?

I know it wasn't meant to do this, but is there a way to? It kills me to have to pull the battery switch at school!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
If you just want to disable the phone feature, you can put it in airplane mode. If you really want to turn it off so it consumes absolutely no power, well the ROM I'm using has an utility called psShutXP which lets me turn off the BA (but sometimes it doesn't seem to work very well, since when I press the power button after using it, it just turns on like it was only in suspension mode instead of cold booting).
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
:good: ok
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
D-Two's ROM also has a Shutdown Function you can send your phone to sleep with, but i don't exactly know how deep.

Adding Quickshutdown1.55 you really can switch it off, but then it freezes and you have to reset if you want to use it again.

Maybe it's a fault of the phone i used it on yesterday, will take a second to test.

edit: generally works, but screen freezes after shutdown; though keys work.

After uninstalling QuickShutdown1.55 D-Two-ROMs shutdown also was gone...

edit2: by accident just found out i've today received a BA with D-Two's WM6.1 Manila with PSShutXP.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
I'm confused. Quickshutdown1.55 will work for my purpose?

How often does it freeze up. and what do you mean by freeze up?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
It works, but screen freezes- no reaction at all. Only buttons work, no complete wakeup. You have to do a reset to get your phone running normal.

I am to confess touchscreen freezes would have been more exact...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] akonsand:
HTC himalaya

Hey!

Can anyone please tell how do i go about installing this in htc himalaya?

It has basically the same hardware so shouldnt be a problem.

Can anyone please guide me?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Sorry, but BA and Hima are too different. Think we'll have to wait till D-Two's Android for BA is final release and maybe he himself will port it for Hima (i hope he will)...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
It's been a little quiet so.... When were D-Two's two weeks off suppose to start where he comes back and amazes us all with new features and videos? :confused:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
Yeah, my SDHC card is tired of waiting to be tested on the BA :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Oh no, not again...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
Look an update!!! Page 1 of this thread!!!

Happy April Fools!

When will Nandroid be released?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Everything has got its time...

You can choose: D-Two persistently posting, blogging and twittering,

or concentrating on his work.

IMHO there is no reason for posting release dates, as you never know

which problems or extensions will occur next.

If you look back in this (and other) threads' history you'll see

how childish some people act if a given release date becomes obsolete.

And i know at least one developer who some day completely stopped communication

because people had gone from childish to really aggressive,

just because he hadn't served them the way they wanted him to.

btw: on march 18th D-Two wrote (#1083) he'd have two weeks starting from

the end of that week (12th) which means vacancy in 13th & 14th,

so in fact there is no delay at all ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
No, I mean as a final... I know that D-Two is busy, but will the project ever reach a complete end? As in all things D-Two wants works? I'm waiting paiently. Yes I am. ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
If and when - who ever knows?

But we're getting philosophical ;)

Inbetween take Logical Song by Supertramp
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
That's a trick question, software can always be upgraded/optimized along with kernels, along with some hardware upgrades that were mentioned, and we are still missing some datasheets and drivers for some things....so i predict it not being completed anytime soon or D-Two will just find a good stopping point.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Yeah, like the camera thing...

as i lately wrote: D-Two has his own feeling of quality.

There′s no absolute point of completenes, but he himself has to be satisfied.

But even then i′m shure he won't stop.

Think of Harrier or Alpine...

Or something we can't imagine now ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
Some activity on Sourceforge... looks like it was just a folder rename or something.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Some people can hear a louses' cough...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
Has anyone problem with PHONE on CyanogenMod 7.2 Alpha?

Can you recive call or make a call ?:eek:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] ares93:
Its not ready for daily use, if it wasn't obvious enough. Alpha means, "assume nothing works and be glad when you find something that does".
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
If you'd kindly direct your attention towards post#1110?

Anyway- BOTH RELEASES ARE BETA RELEASES UP TILL NOW; be happy to have managed to install it, and now wait for the next release like all others around here...

You will do a favour to us all if you do so. ;)

(If you maybe don't understand the term "Beta-Release" feel free to ask.)

(edit: cool- nearly at the same time. Hope we won't start arguing if alpha or beta, fact is it is no final release, right?)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
ok.Delet my post ! :laugh:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
thx for your work on BA man

thx for help

Now can we have nand android on our BA without any problem ? :eek:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
No. What I found out just means one can use a SDHC instead of a SD when booting from Windows Mobile. It's also much harder so if you didn't get it from my lengthy post, I'm not going to explain. My "solution" does nothing about booting from the NAND.

Speaking of NAND boot, looks like PXA-Loader really is a port of Little Kernel bootloader to PXA devices. The Little Kernel source code is here if you want to take a look: https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/?p=kernel/lk.git;a=tree
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
Did you try copying haret and the zImage directly to your phone and starting it with a sdhc inserted?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Maybe you should create your own thread-

could make you responsible for the effect of your works...
[MENTION=3828997]yamna[/MENTION]z: follow him, please! "
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
That's what I did. The trick is to:

Format first partition of SD card as FAT then three more ext2 partitions. The first is for system, the second for data and the third for cache.

This is what the (hopefully) upcoming bootloader with CWM is going to do when it formats the SD card. Remember to format ext without filesystem owner.

Then put the contents of the /system folder of the rootfs.tar.bz2 into the second partition of the card (the first ext2 partition you created).

Then put haret, zImage (do it by taking the Kernel partition you downloaded with HTC-Flasher and renaming it to zImage) and startup.txt on the internal memory of the BA using Windows Mobile. Insert the SDHC card. Boot Linux with HaRET.

Note that this will only work that that specific zImage! It's the only working build of Kernel 3.4 for BA that I have! (my self-compiled 3.5 kernel has kernel panics...).

[MENTION=4239724]B-44[/MENTION]: I will create my own thread soon. Right now I'm just finding sparse things. I'd rather much like having d-two releasing information more often than having to reverse-engineer the results of reverse-engineering the HTC engineering, but some people don't work well in group (I must admit, at times I'm like that).
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
Yeah, with a stock kernel and after you apply the patches from the first post you're still missing the sound, and patches to the asic3 driver for the mmc and errors. But that error should be coming from a configuration error...but yeah waste of time to figue it out when its been done. It's cool to have someone else building kernels, maybe in the future we can have a few tweaked ones like all of the android devices. And it's a little easier to build and work with android with all of the information out there, until you get to graphic support.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
I know SD and SDHC cards work with (and now also without) PXA-Loader, but will SDXC cards work too (these stand for eXtra Capacity)?

32 GB is the maximum the SDHC standard supports. Now I'm looking forward to buy a new card and I'm looking for 32 GB ones, but the I'm doubtful if the ones I'm seeing are SDHC or SDXC.

Also, my only non-HC SD card just physically broke today. Now I have no card on my BA, which is very annoying because there is almost no software...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Yamnazh:
gbl08ma whats up Honey ?

Do u havn`t any fresh news asbout BA :D ?

We`re wating to nand verision of Android on our BA too ... :(
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
I will be buying a new phone and a 32 GB SDHC for it. With the same weight (about 200 g) and dimensions of the BA, except that it has a 5.3 inches screen, a quad-core ARMv7 CPU, a real GPU and goodies like GPS, rotation and proximity sensors, multi-touch, a decent camera and of course Android (4.1) by default. Of course, it doesn't come with that good feeling of using a device from 2005 that is still more or less up-to-date. But I really don't care about that.

My tests with the SDHC cards confirmed the idea that it will take d-two quite some time and work for Android on the BA to be usable for daily tasks, and that's for an old version of Android (2.3 Gingerbread). From my point of view, even if Android works perfectly with all the BA hardware, it will still be more or less like a "proof of concept". It will be like, "hey cool, you can run Android on a device that's eight years old"... but then the coolness and usefulness stop there.

Note that I'm not saying that it's impossible to get it to work perfectly; I'm just saying it wouldn't be all that useful for me even if it did.

Windows Mobile still does much these days, but I want to do more with my phone than what WM and the BA allow me to do. Even with Android on BA, the limitations are obvious (i.e. I would have none of the "goodies" of my new phone) and I'd still want to do more than I would be able to. For example, I'd like to browse the web without having to wait 30 seconds for Google to render, let alone heavier websites.

Furthermore, as I said, the 512 MB SD card I had for the BA broke, and it is pretty much useless without any software that was on the SD (now it allows for checking mails, browsing with Opera Mini, and little more). I don't feel like spending $5 on a new 4 GB non-HC card - I'd have little use for it other than putting it in the BA. While that is certainly enough use for the card, my BA is already suffering from some hardware wear-out... scratching noise when sliding the keyboard up and down, for example. I don't want the battery to get to the same state as the one of my Universal (it only gives enough power for 30 seconds and WiFi doesn't work even when charging). I'd rather keep it along with my Wallaby and my Uni as working museum pieces, before it really breaks apart or the battery dies.

So since sooner or later I would buy a new phone, I decided to buy it now instead of buying a new card for my old phone to only use it for a couple months.

From another point of view, I'm giving d-two time to finish PXA-Loader and PXA Droid without stressing him too much :)

I'm still available for helping with development of these projects as much as I can, just as long as anyone asks me for that help.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
This scratching noise when opening the slider results from the two black screws down on the backside of the screen which i presume to start going loose. Really easy to fix- if you don't do it some day one or both may block the slider.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
The two screens at the top, visible when you slide up the screen, are well in they place (I tighten them frequently). But the hissing noise comes from inside, from the part where the screen connects with the main board. Unless there are two another screws which are not visible, and these are the ones making the noise...

When I got this BA it was used already but the screen was very hard to slide up. Now it's very loose.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
As i said: back down.

There are at least FOUR SCREWS indeed.

If the lower ones get loose, they start spreading the screenslider from the phone a little bit every time

you open the slider, so it gets sloppier a tiny bit shift by shift.

If one of those screws goes completely loose it may block the slider half opened.

It's a similar problem with those screws fixing the mainboard to the backcover

(or those holding the camera)-

i often find BAs with one or two of them rattling inside the phone.

But they don't really disturb or harm anything.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
I have two thoughts..1) My screen and slider are falling apart. Whenever I slide up the screen, it goes wild.

2) [MENTION=1377734]d-two[/MENTION]... When you said the time sync problem may be due to the Calypso chip, I noticed two things... The time for an incoming text always matches the GSM tower time. Also, the time (minutes) of the Android (CM7.2) is always right. Just date and hour are off.

So the PXALoader can shutdown?

Thanks,

TheAH
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] B-44:
Nope. Even if all four screens would get lost (which i think will not happen, you'll rather have one screw blocking your slider or destroying it), the backplate will still be clasped to the front frame. Just take one BA and unscrew it bit by bit- you'll learn a lot by doing so, i promise you!

(Maybe one lost screw may cause damage to screen's flex- you'll have a lot of fun with your display.)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
How do you know that it is GSM tower time and not the "Real time clock"? Normally the process is that the GSM tower or the user sets the initial time, and then the “RTC” keeps it.

If I remember correctly, the modem in the Blueangel doesn’t support the command to ask the GSM tower for the time. If the modem supported it, it would be easy to add to get it to work with android.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
OK, but is there any way to add the command to WM, or is that a hardware issue? It seems to be working on Android. Only Hour and Date are off, Minute is syncing.

---------- Post added at 09:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:51 PM ----------

I know because if I dont set the time, it shows sent as 12:32 PM, while the incoming time is 5:04,matching all clocks.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
I'm confused on your question but... on your blueangel in android if you receive a text it will have the time from the other persons phone. If you send a message back from your blueangel the person should receive it with the wrong time the same as your phone.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
No I mean with WM. It knows the correct time when it downloads the message, but when it sends, it uses the time set (I have to manually). I will try to send a screenshot.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
Any news?

Hi
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
No more eta. Please!

Sent from mALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] TheAH:
What do you mean by eta.?