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[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
My battery life:

-Stock for 2 months or so. Didn't last for an entire day so I was slowly looking for something better... anything better.

-got a free evo battery from a friend at work, charged and swapped out batteries sometimes. Usually had the second battery in my bag just in case. Had to cut and sand the evo battery... didn't like it at all... the casing buldge.

-one day the evo battery broke, went back to stock only, went back to searching. Decided I was never going to go chichi or evo or anything that buldges.

-found the dealxtreme thing. 1charger and 1 battery was about 9 bucks... or it was 3 chargers and 2 batteries for 20 bucks I think. Cheaper in bulk so I bought 3, by this time my wife and I had g2s so I thought why not.

-switched batteries every 80% of a day or so, never charged my phone. Alarm acted up, calender reminders stopped working sometimes... went on the search again

-found the mugen 3600mah battery, expensive but maybe worth it... bought it and loved it... been with it for at least 3 months now and would never go back. I charge once every other night now.

It also comes down to your case situation. Since I had used and will always use a normal oem g1 sock case I had no problem with switching batteries or using a fat mugen one... in my opinion I am doing it the best way possible. Longest lasting battery and most effecient case. Also I never have to put a screen protector on because my case covers the screen. I hate screen protectors... so this is another reason I wanted to go this route.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] JayXL14:
Thanks a lot for the informative post!

I think I will buy the one on Dealextreme and see how that goes..

Any idea where to buy just a stock battery? Is it less than $20?

Thx
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] wolfy:
I got the 1500mah x 2 and been having generally good experience.

It's extremely helpful since I use hotspot all the time and even the stock battery doesn't last that long.

The DX battery doesn't last as long as the stock but its maybe 90 percent as good. Considering the price i paid its still a very good deal.

No longer do I have to leave my phone tethered to the charging cable, with 3 batteries and 2 chargers I always have a fully charged battery ready to go.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] gbarayah:
TMobile sells them on their website, price used to be $30, but checked yesterday and they are up to $40 now.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] JayXL14:
Thanks to everyone for the posts. I think I'll pick up one of the 1500maH ones and see how I like it and respond to the thread, unless I find a better one
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] demster:
I have only one but I'm considering buying another. I use it in the same way as you do I guess :)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] JayXL14:
You think I should get the Dealextreme battery or this one:

http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Standard-...Q1HM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1310414200&sr=8-1

The HTC one is $7 more, which is almost double the price, and doesn't come with the charger.

Basically what I'm getting at is if that Dealextreme one is safe for my phone. I honestly don't wanna screw up my phone cause of a crappy battery .
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] evilcuber:
does the battery icon work after the battery level on the 1500mah reaches the same level as a fully charged stock battery?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
I think they r all based on percentages... battery indicator pro works with my 3600mah also. I pulled my phone off the plug yesterday morning at 6am, it is now 1 in the afternoon the next day and I still have 58%. I've been unplugged for 31 hours.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] evilcuber:
WOW you have a 3600mah battery????? can you give a link to where you bought this?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
just ebay/google mugen 3600mah g2 battery.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Shadow-Nexus:
I saw a cheap on amazon

Sent from my G2 via transperent XDA app running meXdroidMod PreGhostchilli
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] rexstor:
3600mAh? :eek: SO high Capacity.

Scared to use on the phone.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
Why? The capacity is high the output is the same as any other battery...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tanquen:
Any way to have the Media Audio profile setting stay unchecked/unset? Why have settings that can't be set? If I turn off the phone, reset. If I turn off the headset, reset. If the phone is too far from the headset, reset. If I look at it funny, reset. Arrgh!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tanquen:
Bump / I guess thats a no?
[A7 Accessories] kingjf54:
I just unboxed my A7...very nice...I got a response yesterday about how to do the Dexter mod, but I want to know if I should first install the firmware update from the eLocity site prior to doing the mod, or after doing the mod, or not at all...Also, what about future updates?

Is the Dexter mod worth it ?
[A7 Accessories] tetsuo_shima:
To tell you the truth, I'm not sure if it's needed but I did the official update first and then I performed the dexter Mod.

The other question however I am sure about. The Dexter mod is sooooo worth it. Just the simple addition of the market place is nice. You can always go back to the official update later so don't worry about it.
[A7 Accessories] rmartine57:
Hi all, I bought my elocity7 on December, used it with the oficial update, not much time to play with more but tired of not having the market. I finally installed Dexter, great! Just one problem: Some applications do not recognoize the SD card, it is mounted off of /storage as sdcar-disk0 so I guess it is looking on /sdcard so... how can I modify it? I tried mounting rw and creating a link but it does not accept that link, any one with that problem? Thanks a lot, I do not know if this is the rigth forum to ask but please be patient with my undereducation :-)
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] rfunderburk39:
For ones with this error while attempting to root Mytouch 1.2 (3.5 mm) using SuperOneClick:

"failed to copy 'C:\Users\Tracie\Desktop\New Folder\Superuser.apk' to '/system/app/Superuser.apk': No space left on device"

-Disable "USB Debugging"

-Start SuperOneClick (With "run Administrator" for Vista, Windows 7, etc...)

-Choose "Shell Root"

-watch for "waiting on device"

-Enable "USB Debugging" "Settings>Applications>Development>USB Debugging"

It will now give you a message you have temp Root rights.

Now with windows adb:

-Start>Run>cmd

-adb devices (to verify you have your device)

-adb remount

-adb shell

-cd /system/app

-ls -l (this will give you a list of all available .apk

--I choose to remove "Bluetooth.odex" & Faves.apk Make sure that its some no critical file.

-rm *name of your app.apk" (it needs to match capitilzation"

-Now go back to SuperOneClick

-Click "Root"

-Now follow procedure for using SuperOneClick

This worked for my:

Mytouch 1.2 3.5 mm

Sapphire PVT 32A Ship S-on G

Hboot-1.33.0013 (Sapp31000)

CPLD-13

RADIO-2.22.28.25

OCT 21 2009

With the latest TMobile 2.2.1 update.

Hope this helps

Remember to use at own risk of Bricking the unit.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] WillDaBeast2:
I have this exact problem, but Im kind of a noob...... I get it all up until the whole adb devices stuff....
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] tvall:
Or you can install superuser to /data/app (hint: from the market)
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] flflfl:
Do you can delete the *.odex files and the phone is still working? What exactly are odex files?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] tvall:
Critical files for the app. He probably just broke bluetooth
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] TheTechnician:
I deleted, Faves and Amazon mp3 and it installed the SuperUser :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] savvas1994:
I have the same problem on my Samsung galaxy 3 (gt-i 5800). Will this method work?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] 5[Strogino]:
Do delete some system apks via shell root to get more space? Yes, you can do it. But choose non-critical apks.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] genialmaniac:
Hey there!

Quite an old subject but if it can helps...

I had to install a 30Mb apk in my /system/app folder, let's call it "abstract.apk"

It was obvious but I got the message "no space left on device" so.

The method I use does not delete anything.

only push the apk you want to install in another folder and link it.

From remote host:

adb remount

adb push abstract.apk /sd-ext/app (or whatever folder with some space left)

adb shell

su

chmod 644 /sd-ext/app/abstract.apk

ln -s /sd-ext/app/abstract.apk /system/app/abstract.apk

reboot

Cu
[Atrix 4G General] ECdOc:
So, who is not getting the Atrix now due to AT&T forcing tethering and horrible pricing?

see: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...ailable-for-preorder-on-feb-13-115191644.html
[Atrix 4G General] glitterbug:
Me. Att is so stupid.

What is the next best phone for att now?
[Atrix 4G General] Mike's Aria:
I will definetly NOT be getting it.

First $500 for the laptop dock by itself, ARE YOU KIDDING!!! Yes, I know there is a package where you can get both for $500. However, that requires you to change to a 2gb data pro plan with tethering. Why the hell would I pay to tether something to my phone that isn't even a fully functioning separate device?

To convince me to get it, they would have to change it to $150 phone, $150 dock, no change in my plan.

Press release HERE for those that haven't seen it.
[Atrix 4G General] Rastor:
Add me to this list.

Price of phone and laptop dock: $599.99 -- though they'll send you one of those annoying-to-use $100 gift card credit cards.

That's the price WITH a 2-year contract which carries a $325 Early Termination Fee.

Purchase of their most expensive data plan with tethering is REQUIRED. Even if you aren't planning to tether. Just using Firefox in laptop mode requires that plan.

Plus the phone is locked down all to hell, with an encrypted bootloader and restrictions on what you can download from the app market and restrictions on sideloading.

Screw you, AT&T. It makes me so sick to see such an awesome phone screwed by your ridiculous corporate policies and just plain greed.
[Atrix 4G General] stoli412:
Goodbye Atrix and AT&T. Hello Thunderbolt and Verizon.

(God I never thought I'd say the V word...)
[Atrix 4G General] ECdOc:
Yah, I am very disappointed in this announcement as I was looking forward to this phone and using it on my unlimited data plan. I could have gone with the ****ty pricing, but giving up my unlimited for a tethering plan that is more expensive and when I am not even tethering anything, nope. Now I'm going to have to seriously consider going to another carrier. What are the other phones to consider now that this one is dead out of the starting gates?
[Atrix 4G General] shanghei:
I figured this news required a hitler reaction video

here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQEyFsO4XZ4
[Atrix 4G General] dreadlord369:
WTF..... Screw it I might as well get the flippin inspire now... I might consider switching to verizon too for the thunderbolt... We'll see.
[Atrix 4G General] Yaotl:
Will still probably get it. But will also probably be getting the xoom when it comes out in addition.
[Atrix 4G General] Benz360:
Not sure at this point, will be waiting to see what happens with WMC. That LG

3D phone is starting to look pretty good imo.
[Atrix 4G General] irishtexmex:
I uploaded this to Reddit (search "Hitler reacts to ATT's released Atrix pricing". I have too few posts to post links). If you have a username there that you'd like me to apply credit to let me know. :)
[Atrix 4G General] shanghei:
lol thanks, nah no credit needed just get word out all of us excited about atrix are furious
[Atrix 4G General] bose.jhebert:
Guess i'm just going to settle for an inspire. Partly due to the principle of it, partly because that laptop dock was the only real thing i was excited about, i'd rather have the 4.3" screen. Tegra 2 is exciting, but I don't game much, or any heavy multitasking. So Inspire here i come :(
[Atrix 4G General] Xevilious:
Posted on Gizmodo #whitenoise.
[Atrix 4G General] kbc88:
Um yeah, TOTALLY not getting the Atrix at this point. What's the point of getting it if we can't dock it and use all it's power.

Jesus ATT, this is the possible worst case scenario, expensive ass dock, tethering required. Give it to em to blow shi* out of the water. So upset. They'll lose and I hope they do, so much more money than they could have made.
[Atrix 4G General] stoli412:
I want to know what is going on in their market research department. Do they honestly think people are going to pay for this? $500 for a laptop dock? An extra $20 for tethering when you're not even tethering? I see a VERY tiny market for that. Average Joe Consumer wouldn't be interested in that in the first place. XDA Geeks totally would, but not at that price out of principle. What does that leave, business users? No company in their right mind is going to give their employees a device that will actually decrease their mobile productivity, especially at the price. Citrix or not, you won't be able to do much real work. And even with the Citrix, connectivity and speed will be spotty at best on AT&T's overburdened network.

EDIT: I wonder if this is going to be like the first iPhone where Apple had to lower the price by $100 (or was it $200?) after a month to get people to start buying the thing. You'd think AT&T would learn...
[Atrix 4G General] borguesian:
I'll get an inspire
[Atrix 4G General] grave101:
ATT isn't forcing tethering, thats only if you use the dock.

MOD EDIT: Respect others, first and final warning
[Atrix 4G General] glitterbug:
The most defining feature of the phone comes with a mandatory charge. People should be raising hell about this. ATT SUCKS.
[Atrix 4G General] csyrell:
Infuse Here I Come!!!

Thought I had made up my mind on the Atrix, but $300 for a battery/monitor??? What's the point. I don't game, so I may as well go for the Sammy Infuse with it's bigger and much better screen, and 1.2 processor.

I'm hopeful that Sammy will feel pressure to announce a release date soon, since yesterday was HTC and today was Moto.
[Atrix 4G General] dreadlord369:
Pretty sure we get that, but most of us were planning to get the dock so thats why we are pissed. Take me for example, I was planning on making my laptop a permanent setup in my room while taking the phone and the dock around for classes and such. But with the new pricing, I might as well get a netbook and another phone (the only thing that really attracted me to the atrix was the dock option really, I do like the specs but they aren't needed for me).
[Atrix 4G General] eallan:
Why don't you stop excusing awful business practices and arbitrary money grabs where the consumer only loses.
[Atrix 4G General] quedogf94:
As long as I can tether the phone, I'll just use my unlimited plan and tether it to my ipad.
[Atrix 4G General] miztic:
I need to replace my aging T-mobile G1 and my company switched to AT&T, the atrix is still one of the best android phones to get (the locked bootloader is unfortunate tho)

I WAS excited about the laptop shell because I wouldn't need to buy a tablet to browse the web (mostly forums) on the couch at home on my Wifi. and at the initial rumored $150 bestbuy price, that'd be an awesome deal. but at a $300 (plus tethering plan) I'm pretty sure I can get a tablet that does the job better then the laptop dock anyway.
[Atrix 4G General] Spectre51:
Will probably still be getting the phone (its too hard to pass up a phone that powerful) and not get the laptop dock from AT&T. Perhaps I will wait to get it from other sources then root the atrix to use other tethering options. AT&T totally screwed up this device with their pricing. Such a shame...but expected.
[Atrix 4G General] DarkDvr:
Ok, so let's brake this up in numbers.

Considering you're like me and don't want to sell you soul for 2 years to AT&T, here is the pricing:

Phone - safe to say, off contract, will be about $699 (+tax, activation, etc)

Dock - $500

Tethering - $20 per month

DataPro - $25 per month

So, to get a netbook with a cellphone, it will cost $1,200 USD + taxes and activation, easily another $100.

So, a total of $1,300 for a cellphone and a keyboard with a ****ty-ass screen that you have to haul around.

Oh, and don't forget the extra $45 per month (!!), which, considering you'll own this combo for at least a year, will come to additional $540 for year of ownership. That's on top of whatever wireless plan you have. So a total of $1,840 for a year of owning this thing. That's $153 USD PER MONTH.

If you want to get the 2 yr plan, it comes to $1,140 for a year of ownership, on top of whatever your current charges are.

To get this into perspective, let's look at what's in the market.

For the price of the dock ($500) I got myself an Acer AS1810TZ netbook/notebook hybrid about 4 months ago. It has:

4GB RAM

320 GB HDD

1.3 Intel Pentium DualCore CPU

Easily handles 1080p video

Battery lasts for EIGHT HOURS (!!)

Full Windows 7 Ultimate OS

1366x768 screen resolution

If you don't want the laptop dock, then why even get Atrix 4G?

Think about it:

You DON'T need 1GB RAM, nothing to fill it with without the laptop.

Camera is crap - 5MP

Unable to do 1080p video. Maybe in 3 years it will, heh.

Only capable of HSPA+. No LTE, obviously.

FroYo. No word on GB update. Seiously, top of the line Android phone with 2.2 when 2.3 and 3.0 are out?

Forced MotoBlur

Probably a bootloader locked to HELL AND BACK to prevent hacking and free tethering

Let's face it - phone's ugly and looks like an old fat iphone.

I think conclusion is pretty obvious. It's quite entertaining to watch how AT&T keeps building itself a coffin, while repeatedly shooting itself in a leg, while drinking poison by the gallons.
[Atrix 4G General] Recon Freak:
I'm waiting for

At&t to announce the official and to see what come after MWC. Then I'll come back and Vote.
[Atrix 4G General] opensourcefan:
We don't need the laptop dock, most of us hardcore freaks already have a few laptops kickin around, ultimately AT&T's terms will hit home with Motorola when they have a warehouse full of docks collecting dust. Don't worry about it, get the phone and enjoy it or wait... this is just the start of the multi-core age.
[Atrix 4G General] DarkDvr:
Thing is, Atrix 4G is just an ugly froyo dualcore phone without the dock. What's the point of getting it at all if you're not buying the dock?

Why can't I tether my captivate to my full-blown Win7 laptop instead for free?
[Atrix 4G General] shanghei:
I agree the allure of this phone was not only its specs but all its cool gadgets. For 500$ you can get a pretty sweet tablet.
[Atrix 4G General] Xevilious:
'Scuse me if I continue *****ing. For a lot of us, the only reason why we wanted this was the dock. As far as I'm concerned, that's what made this phone interesting and innovative. Without it, it's just a beefy phone, and there are lots of those coming to market in the next few months.

$500 was a stretch but doable, but the extra cost of tethering is way over-the-top. I saw the Engadget Atrix videos from CES... the browsing looked good, but it was not nearly as smooth as using a real laptop and certainly not worth paying a monthly premium.

AT&T are idiots if they think people are going to go for this.
[Atrix 4G General] DarkDvr:
+10,000.

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[Atrix 4G General] jgr208:
Same here, got a lenovo for $450, guess i am going to get the inspire.
[Atrix 4G General] ricethief:
Yeah it sucks pretty bad. I'm still going to get one, no dock though. I have faith in the development community in coming up with some creative solutions to the problems AT&T seems to create.

Does anyone know what port the Atrix is using when docked? Is it usb,hdmi, or something else?
[Atrix 4G General] antioch216:
I believe micro HDMI
[Atrix 4G General] Xevilious:
Plugs into USB too, but I think only for charging while docked. I could be wrong about that though.
[Atrix 4G General] Rastor:
The USB also sends it mouse/keyboard input
[Atrix 4G General] cenkaetaya:
im on att and also interested in getting the atrix.

i had no interest in the dock/laptop since i already have a good laptop.

i just wanted it since it has the best cpu yet + 1 gig of ram, and a front facing cam. No other device has the specs anywhere near that rightnow so it seems like a good deal.

battery - 1900mah this also is a big thing, i dont think there are any smartphones with such a big battery, so im hoping if you use the atrix right it will get great life.

is locked bootloader mean no roms at all?

that would probably be my main point of not getting it.
[Atrix 4G General] SoberGuy:
I vote for an extra option on the poll: I'm pissed as hell and need at least 48 hours to decide. If AT&T can tell when the dock is being used...I'll probably pass on both. No point in the phone for me, then. I'd rather have something that will take custom ROMs (though I've never flashed one to my N1). I hate this, I really do.
[Atrix 4G General] King Shady:
Honestly I didn't give two ****s about the laptop dock. Sure, it was cool and neat, but I'll take my Macbook Pro. However, the Atrix has crazy good stats but I still wont go for it because im grandfathered into the unlimited data plan on ATT
[Atrix 4G General] bose.jhebert:
You dont need to change plans shady, only those who wanted the laptop dock (which appears to be most of us, myself included) who are now either waffling or out right defecting to inspire or later devices because of the asinine tethering requirement. You could still keep an atrix on the unlimited plan without changing plans as long as you dont plan on using the dock.
[Atrix 4G General] mcsinny99:
Unless this att changes the gameplan, I'm out. Sure I could get the phone and skip the dock, but what's the point? I get to deal with a locked bootloader? The worlds most powerful FAIL.

Nice hitler vid, lol.
[Atrix 4G General] svzurich:
Not Worth It

OP, thank you for bringing this issue to my attention. My enthusiasm for the phone is now tempered. My old Iphone 3G will just have to hold out a bit longer. I was willing to consider the Atrix for the netbook aspect and Android, even if the bootloader took forever to crack.

I am not giving up my unlimited AT&T plan for as long as I stick with the company. I am out of contract and itching for a new phone. Knocking my socks off with a Motorola phone was hard to do, yet they did it. Forcing me to tether and drop the unlimited plan to use the netbook shell is just a dealbreaker. I will not add $40-45 more dollars a month to my bill just to have a lower data cap and a keyboard.

I will just stick to my Cr-48 netbook from Google when I want a keyboard and screen on the go. I can pay less to Verizon for its data plans without getting a contract. I see nothing the netbook dock can do that the Cr-48 can't.

I hope the retail versions of the Cr-48 end up costing under $500. No one would consider the Atrix netbook dock then.
[Atrix 4G General] silenzzzz:
with the tethering you also get 4 gig of data instead of the normal 2 gig ... not sure how it will work with the old 30 plans tho ...

i still like the phone ... the dock is nice but not something i would use on a regular basis ... if it can be rooted or custom roms i am still in ... wont know about either of those till some get in the hands of enough modders...

if it falls through then the samsung will be the one for me ... skipping the HTC ...

got what i want right now with my Tab ... tho having a little more portable one would be nicer.
[Atrix 4G General] MikeyMike01:
I had absolutely no interest in buying the dock whatsoever.

Now I'm not buying the phone on principle, because of these sorry business tactics.

Sent from my Captivate.
[Atrix 4G General] Spectre51:
Take it for what its worth but spoke to an AT&T Rep tonight who said that when you connect the atrix to the dock and connect it will automatically change your account to the datapro +tethering. I still might get the phone without he dock but really have to think about it now. Before it was a definite yes. No so much now.

Sent from my Dell Streak
[Atrix 4G General] r34p3rex:
Call retentions and tell them you want the dock without the data plan, else you're going to Verizon since they have better phones at a better price :D See what they offer you