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[Atrix 4G General] SiL3nTKiLL:
i never believe what ATT says anymore
[Atrix 4G General] Squeak22:
Unless it's programmed in the phone to check, there really isn't a way for the network to determine if the data coming through the network is going to the phone or to the web top environment.

I've had tethering on my captivate forever, and I've never had to pay for it.
[Atrix 4G General] Rastor:
It seems they have programmed it into the Webtop app to check.
[Atrix 4G General] Squeak22:
Where did you read this? I haven't seen this reported anywhere.
[Atrix 4G General] Rastor:
There's nowhere to read anything authoritative yet. AT&T has repeatedly said that using Firefox in the Webtop app on the AT&T broadband network will require tethering. Until the phones come out we won't know for sure how this is implemented. Some people have reported in online forums that AT&T representatives told them opening Firefox will automatically enroll you in a DataPro plan, others have said you will be prompted.
[Atrix 4G General] peachpuff:
I can't believe there are actual tethering plans out there, they're such a scam seeing that froyo has native tethering.
[Atrix 4G General] SoberGuy:
Repeatedly? I've seen it once from them in the press release. Perhaps that's all I've seen, though.

I'm waiting to hear back from their PR team (still) on this issue. Once I hear back, I'll post the details of how it will work.

Sent from my Sexy Nexy, courtesy of the fine developers of Tapatalk
[Atrix 4G General] AngryHog:
Browser alternatives?

Since it specifically states "Firefox" use requires tethering, what if we ran a different browser? Personally, I don't care for Firefox anyway and wouldn't use it if I didn't have to.

Or is it that the Webtop environment is separate from Android itself and therefore no other Android browser will function there?

I'm confused....but not willing to spend upwards of a grand to to figure it out.

-AngryHog™
[Atrix 4G General] johnnydeathmatch:
Even if the Firefox browser requires tethering, I'm sure it'll take about five minutes for xda devs to "fix" it so that it doesn't cost a dime. I've been tethering for years with no problems and no extra charges from AT&T.

Plus, I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to port Chrome over, I'd rather use that anyway.
[Atrix 4G General] mthguy:
Anything from PR

SoberGuy, have you heard anything yet? I am getting pretty amped about this phone, and want to be sure that I am putting my money in the right place, and info like the info you may be able to glean seems vital.

Thanks
[Atrix 4G General] IrrelevantD:
Everything I've read to this point has said that the webtop is a stripped down version of Debian that is so locked down that you can't install anything to it or even update to newer versions of Firefox. To update Firefox, AT&T has to push out an update. I'm assuming someone will fix this issue and we'll get a more useable version of Debian on there, but until it happens, I wouldn't expect to be able to run anything else on the webtop. Makes the laptop dock seem even more overpriced IMHO.
[Atrix 4G General] SoberGuy:
Not yet. Tell ya what I'll do, though. Let me send a much more agressive follow-up. I'm willing to bet I can get someone's attention with this...
[Atrix 4G General] mthguy:
I hope that the news you get back is positive. Thanks.
[Atrix 4G General] mthguy:
Just pre-ordered the phone. Can't wait to get it in my hands. Hopefullly we get some definitive news on the dock/tethering situation before I get mine. Any word SoberGuy? Waiting with baited breath...

Also:

I am happy to donate to a respected dev who is willing to spend his spare time cracking open this phone, I just pre-ordered mine, and I am totally willing to donate. I don't know if there is a particular dev who is looking to work with this phone, or any of that. I also don't have a ton of money, but I can spare $10 or $20 to help out the great devs in this community.
[Atrix 4G General] Benz360:
+1 and I can donate a little more if we can crack webtop and allow for chrome or atleast silverlight - that would be wicked :)
[Atrix 4G General] xeve:
Just Pre-Ordered; No tethering required for discount or Tethering

Up for an upgrade with an existing unlimited data/msg plan I specifically inquired about the need for a tethering plan for: 1) tethering to a laptop and 2) tethering to a dock. I was assured (and the At&T agent noted my account) that I can keep my unlimited data/msg plan and don't need any additional data, tethering, anything...

On top of that there's a $75 off on techbargains: Cant post a link - I new here...

I couldn't order off the jump, upgrade, keep my current sweet terms, and get the $75. Had to pick new plans, etc. So the agent was kind enough to give me a $75 credit!

So Phone $199

Unlimited Data/msg $50

Plus $75 Credit

Couldn't be happier!!!

Now... Who do we donate to get past efuse and run GB
[Atrix 4G General] kbc88:
I would easily redirect my month data with tethering payment of 45 dollars to someone who can just crack webtop so that it doesn't detect tethering. (if it does)

And then some for rooting the phone.

Easily.
[Atrix 4G General] SoberGuy:
Little update here, folks. Use of Firefox browser, regardless of dock, requires the tethering plan. Confirmed with AT&T PR Team. I'm following up now to get some more details, but I expect this to take a little time. Additionally, I'll have a more thorough writeup over at DroidReign, once I have time.
[Atrix 4G General] Andrmgic:
Wow.. and there goes my interest in the device.
[Fascinate General] sealpuncher:
I just installed froyo superclean rom and so far everything has worker perfectly except whenever I start the phone I get random haptic response and a little popular saying that Google maps unexpectedly. Stopped working and need to force close. I do that but this same thing happens whenever I try to open some of the apps that come with superclean froyo. These include maps, nav, latitude and email. They just... crash

I was going to try to uninstall them and reinstall them but I'm not sure how to go about that with them being included apps... I was hardly able to get froyo installed. Any help would be appreciated.
[Fascinate General] Holliday:
Try clearing your cache and davlik first. Reboot and try again. Still does not work then reinstall gapps. Its possible an old cache or Davlik file is causing the crash. Clearing those forces the app to rebuild new ones.
[Fascinate General] sealpuncher:
Wow dalvik cache fixed it thank you so much. I'm going to donate....

A bit of my heart to you.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] zeroize:
I can see in Windows the MicroSD drive and also a CD-Rom drive. What's the point of this cdrom drive? What is it really mapping from the phone? Because it cannot be accessed.

Thank you.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ghost+:
I'm not sure, but I think the CD rom drive is for PC Companion.

If you use root explorer and delete dop.iso it should stop that, however if you do this then you can't install PC Companion from your phone.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] zeroize:
What is dop.iso? If it's a file to be installed in the PC It cannot be accesed. The SE cdrom unit is just empty, so I find it pointless to be be mounted in Windows.

Does it happen in Linux or other OS that you have two units mounted? Is this just a thing of the mini or does it happen in all the xperias?.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apyc:
Does anyone know if there is a chance to enable redirected call notification on HD2's dialer? Problem already described here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=415527 and here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=590667. I would like to be notified that the call has been redirected from some other number. It looks like HTC dialer does not show this information. Any ideas?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thachosenone:
just wondering if there is anyone working on this, or if the source is even out yet....tmo did say that hey would have upcoming android releases within 3-5 months from release of said versions. Just curious if there are any leaks that anyone has come across.

Thanks
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sharkethicx:
From my understanding, a gingerbread kernel will only work with a gingerbread rom.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jellette:
You want a flashable 2.3 kernel modded to work on 2.2 - is that what you are asking?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thachosenone:
Yes and no, I'm just wondering if anyone is working on a gingerbread rom for vibrants, and from what i understand, gingerbread roms won't work unless it includes a gingerbread kernel.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geoffcorey:
your question: "is there a 2.3 kernel that works in 2.2?"

problem: this makes no sense. only 2.2 kernels work in 2.2. Only 2.3 kernels work in 2.3. What are you trying to ask?

Interpretation: "is anyone working on a 2.3 rom for your vibrants?"

Answer: yes. CM just upped a test version of 2.3 IN ALPHA (not the same as the ones that appeared in december), but right now it's almost exclusively i9k only (to convert the radio file takes a bit or work).

Good news for our vibrants, Krylon360 of TeamWhiskey is working on a 2.3 port himself. But the progress is going to be a while since he's the only one working on it.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mussri:
hey everyone, i usually dont post, observer is more like it. but i am having touble and i hope someone could shed some light. the first issue is with the dow kernel from tw. it wont recognize my headset as a microphone headset, only plays music, and second, ffc isn't my default camera when i use messenger, fring, or qik. it works fine, except for the low light/low banding issue, havent found anything for that yet, but i digress. those programs go automatically to my back cam, not sure what i'm doing wrong. thanks in advance for the help and just wanted to say thanks to all the devs. you guys are awesome, we would be running crappy slow phone and slaves to our networks. you guys (and gals) rock.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] wdfowty:
Ok, here we go. On my Nexus One, Desire ports were my rom of choice. I don't really like the stock Sense UI, so I went through a few themes. The flashier, the better, right?

Then I came across this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=778503

Blew. My. Mind.

So, with cubanaso's permission, I'm beginning the effort to port these AMAZING themes to our beloved device. Starting with OBsensed, and hopefully continuing on to the others, as time and skill permits (college student, very first theme :cool:).

This theme is considered a WIP, as it is not complete (yet). Hopefully some crafty individuals can help with the completeness :D

You'll notice a few things that don't look right, like the battery charging animation (and other notification clashes), as well as the favorites widget. Any and all info/tips to change/fix any issue is GREATLY appreciated.

Also, I accept no credit. All credit goes to cubanaso, the creator of these themes. If you'd like to donate to him, please use the link in his signature found HERE
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] Zoon0n:
Dude, AOSP is what I love (CyanogenMod!) but this is a slick theme. Once you get the Sense theme up and running you should consider expanding to AOSP, you've definitely piqued my interest (<3 the lockscreen/pull down bar)
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] jmiller98:
That is a sweet looking theme. Would be great on redemptive 2.2.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] sunder74:
Man I'm not even a fan of Sense but I would rock one of these themes especially if it were built on Lou's Redemptive. I have only used his Sense roms in the past and have got brilliant performance and support from this dev. Anyway looks amazing good luck with this port. I will be keeping an eye on the progress. As far as the battery make sure you get all the images and xmls ported. Again looks great.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] wdfowty:
I honestly don't think that's possible...But, hell, this is xda...Magical things happen every day :D

Once I work the kinks out, I'll look into that. I've always loved R.R.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] swankylaxplayer:
Wow. This looks great. Good-looking Sense (and even AOSP) themes are definitely in short supply for the Incredible.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] mbobino:
Hey, I ported Cubanaso's Tron sense theme for the Evo and had problems with the notification icons as well. The USB debugging icon is in /system/app/pcscii.apk. Took me forever to find it. The battery icons will need edited. You'll have to open them up individually and make the background transparent. Same thing for the signal bars. As for the favorites widget, I'd imagine its an image in the apk but I'm not 100% sure. Hopefully you get this worked out. If you need help PM me and I'll do what I can to help you out with it. Cubanaso's themes are the best!
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] wdfowty:
Thanks bro! Just starting out with this whole theming game, lots to learn :p.

I'm most likely gonna give this another shot tonight, see if I can't fix anything.

PM'ing you.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] PeeHoo:
Am I the only one who get random reboot every now and then. Typically those happens when phone is stand-by mode. And when it happens then it normally reboots 2-3 times and after that it is stable again... Is there any way to avoid them??

:confused::confused::mad::mad:

I've tried at least 6-7 different ROMs and this happens with every of them...

And I have done task29 and so on and without task29 and so on.... Damn, this is frustrating...

Now at the moment I am quite happy... only 2-4 reboots per day with version [Feb 02][DL DesireZ v3.4][DL Data2SD/Ext4 v2.7][Nand/SD/MAGLAR]
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] YZ:
this can actually be caused because of some gps problems.. I dont think the problem is with your phone.. It's with the ROM i think..

you can try one of the gingerbread roms ? i haven't had any reboot problems running gingerbread.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MattOG:
The only time I've had reboots is when using setcpu - and undervolting the phone too much. If you use setcpu, try raising the min and max slightly to see if it helps.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] deoneR:
i got the same issue :/

the phone randomly reboots... i tried different radios and roms but makes no difference.

But since Mgdlr 1.13 i just got one reboot last 24h with latest radio + gpc ginger v1.5

Are there logs at the android system to post here?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] artn3r:
provider?

I have the random reboots since i've switched to a mvlo virtual provider in austria (bob). maybe there is a problem with the radio? i get NO reboots in flightmode
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] masodes:
@artn3r: hi, same problem here! i'm also on bob.at and i had random reboots with any android build i've tested so far.

but with the hint of an other boardmember i didn't have any reboots since 2 days. i just switched the network mode from "automatic" to "wcdma only".

maybe this is a possibilty for some of you dev's out there to fix that problem!?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] artn3r:
Thanks, i'll try!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] budy81:
thank's. i'll try it
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] artn3r:
but this is not a good option, because if the reception is bad, you get no calls at all
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] masodes:
sorry guys......

1 hour ago i had the last reboot. so this is not the reason for these f....... reboots.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Esaj2:
This text already exists in an another topic, but since this topic is dedicated to this problem, I decided to copy it here as well.

I MIGHT have found a solution to this problem!

Here's a little story about my HD2:

I bought my device about a year ago. The device was equipped with stock Winmo 6.5 with WWE 1.66 (sadly I don't remember the radio number). No problems with it. After a while, I decided update to the latest stock ROM WWE 3.14 (radio 2.15.50.14). Everything worked fine, exept I started having random reboots on idle. The phone didn't reboot on use, only in idle (sleep mode). It could stay on as long as 4-10 hours, or as little as few minutes.

I started to look solution to this problem, but couldn't find it. Then I decided to get a custom ROM, which was one of the Artemis builds. The rebooting issue vanished.

Couple of days ago, I decided swith to nand Android ("Stock" NAND Android ROM). Everything worked very well, exept the rebooting problem came back. I tried different Android versions, radio versions and everything else. Nothing worked.

Now we get to the part which could fix this problem once and for all. Not only in different Android builds, but also in Winmo 6.5 and possibly in WP7.

The solution is to change the automatic network selection to manual! Since there is no clear manual selection in Android, you have to go to settings and manually select the preferred network from the list. I don't know if this is the permanent solution, because it's impossible to choose one and only network, but as long as the reception is good and you don't reboot your device, it should work. I haven't tested if the manual selection disables when rebooting the device. However you can always manually select the network and by doing this you should avoid random reboots on idle.

So the problem shouldn't be in your device, memory card or your custom ROM. The problem is somehow related to the automatic network selection. The actual problem could be in the sim card, or your service provider, or even in the ROM, but you can fix this by manually selecting the network.

This fix also worked with the stock Winmo 6.5 with WWE 3.14 (radio 2.15.50.14) where I had these same problems in the past.

I have now used the HD2 for three days without rebooting. I hope it works for everyone else as well.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] PeeHoo:
I definetly need to test this... And it is so easy ;) Just put pin code asking back ;=)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] artn3r:
me too... same problem here
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Esaj2:
Report me back, if this fix worked, because it gives me some reassurance that my phone is going to work in the future, without the annoying reboots.

Four days without rebooting. :) Fingers crossed.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tunkki:
Moro! Itse olen käyttänyt HD2:sella Rafdroid HD:tä versioita 1.0, 2.0-2.4 ja 3.0 ja kaikissa on ollut tää inhottava random-boot hommeli.. pitääkin testata jos tuo manual network selection auttaa asiaa, kiitos vinkistä :)

Hello! I've been using Rafdroid HD:s all versions in my HD2 and always I have random booting.. I should test if that manual network selection helps, thanks for advice! :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] oyvpet:
The couse

I think I know what couses the reboots on my phone.

The reboots only happen when i am on 3G. I know this becouse when im at home i dont have 3g but at work i have 3g. And reboots only happen when im at work.

Anyone that can confirm this?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Esaj2:
The reason why you are experiencing random reboots, might be caused by your service provider. Because many people here in Finland, who have service provider called "Saunalahti", have the random reboot issue, when using the automatic network selection. However, when I use a different service provider, I don't have these issues. This is also the reason, why we are not all suffering from the same problem.

I have now switched to nand RAFDROID 3.0 and immeaditly turned of the automatic network selection and I haven't had any rebooting problems. So it seems that at least for some of us, turning of the automatic network selection will resolve the random reboot problem.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pgockel:
Thanks, I am going to try this. My phone has a tendancy to reboot everytime I am in the UK. In my own country, Holland, I don't seem to have this problem as much, only once a week maybe. This seems to support the theory mentioned above.

Thanks again.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] t.roos8500:
i had same prob

i've had the same problems on my hd2, only it didn't reset on idle. i've send it to te factory, for waranty. luckely i stil was on winmo 6.5.

3 weeks later i've got it back with new mainbord and battery and now it works fine:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pinkpig:
Hello all, i seem to be suffering the same reboot problems. Been running NAND android since it came out with no problems. Now i get random reboots.

Where do i go to change the network selection to manual? is it in *#*#4636#*#*

Thanks!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] artn3r:
no its very easy. dont know how its called in english, i'm german.

just go to settings->networks?->cellular?->network provider?

then it says searching....

select your operator

done.

regards,

artn3r
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pinkpig:
Thank you.

Tried it but im still having reboot problems =(.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] artn3r:
i have the typhoon rom, 3.3.1. try this rom, its working best. but not the latest version! 3.3.1 is perfect
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] haciyener:
pls, check in RIL version
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pinkpig:
RIL version? I'm not familiar with that. Can you elaborate some more?

Thanks!
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] zburke:
I am rooted, running liberty v1.5 (which is AWESOME btw). I go to liberty toolbox to add a theme, choose blue. It makes me reboot, then the says " no such file or directory installation aborted"

anyone got a fix??
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] Javi97100:
I'm sorry but what is liberty v1.5?
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] brswattt:
Isn't that a Droid X Theme?
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] Javi97100:
What's it doing In aria forums?
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] jeebuz:
Probably a misclick? I mean it's right under this forum... I tend to click the Droid X General forum from time to time.
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] treeworx:
i have same problem
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] zervic:
Let's play a game:

1. your post was descriptive.

2. my post is sarcastic.

which one is true?!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crazydaddy:
When in the clockwork recovery app, and you select backup rom it reboots into recovery mode and does a backup. This is the same as booting into cw recovery and creating a backup correct. Just a UI type way to create a nandroid?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] castuis:
Its pretty much recommended that you avoid doing backups thru the app, best to boot into recovery and just do it from there takes an extra minute but much safer and consistent
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crazydaddy:
Makes sense :) ty!
[Fascinate General] Jbuch84:
So, I just got a text from verizon...

"Free VZW Msg. New Fascinate software SCH-i500.EA28 is available to fix the emergency button on the lock screen. See www.verizonwireless.com/fascinatesupport"

Anyone else get this?
[Fascinate General] bleeeeeeek:
Theres already a thread about this..
[Fascinate General] Kevin Gossett:
Everybody got it... It's just DL09 repackaged with the emergency call bug fixed.
[Fascinate General] Jbuch84:
Opps, I just woke up from a nap and got back in coverage area.. My bad :-)
[Fascinate General] Ryanx196:
Yep got it to
[Fascinate General] cwalter9:
Root worked fine on EA28 update

I used the manual ADB root install method. I prefer that over the one click but it worked perfect. I would expect the one click root methods to work fine also on this update since it seems to only be a fix for the emergency dial and maybe a few bug fixes but there is no major update here at all. I loaded back to stock DL09 and let the EA28 update hit and then re rooted and all is well.