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[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] flyboy_____:
Blue Angel Rocks I love it!!

Superb Work guys!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
don't touch d-two, I believe in d-two
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
Stop believing, almost four months and not even a single update ;).
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] barnaclebilly:
yep i go with tomcug on this one

sorry d-two nothing for months off you m8
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
I'm not interested with this anymore too. I offered d-two some help long time ago but he refused every time. I guess he just wants to prove that he's the only one who can do it ;). After all, he won't prove anything cause development is dead :D.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Ok, very easy, update the source from HH.org to the new Kernel version and start the porting to android and post your source i have a 60 hour week some time more i have no time momentary!!!!!!!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
D-two, no problem, nobody die if you don't end the project in shot time, it's bigger your project, and we wait, if somobody is faster, make it hisself
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
Easy man, I offered you some help and you refused every time before. I don't care about this development anymore but good luck mate. I know that it's very hard for single man but you're at least funny with your comments :p.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] barnaclebilly:
lol d-two m8 HH.org is a dating site happy hearts
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
yes but the Kernel is on some gits
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] aperles:
http://www.handhelds.org/ but it is down now.

Other images, but are old and have some issues.

GPE based http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/images/htcblueangel/

Qtopia based http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/Qtopia/

Some time ago, it was an angstrom image, but i'm not sure.

Regards,

Àngel
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] barnaclebilly:
anyway d-two m8 best off luck with android
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
i might be able to help? is IT in C++ OR c# I KNOW BOTH, BUT C# IS MUCH easier FOR ME. so which one is it?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] barnaclebilly:
thats the trouble he's been offered help zainuintel but wont take it m8
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
it's C ...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
Anybody can do what he did and help themselves. Here's a link for basic support

Link

You can add it to your own linux or android kernel and be good to go. If you get something working besides this you can share it. :eek:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
in this thread or a new thread dtwo ifi get working touchscreen will let u no btw hav scool so might take time...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] a1Pha:
would you mind uploading your current android working state w/ sources somewhere?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Stevemann:
Can a workable Android kernel be squeezed into the tiny BA Rom space? Let alone the UI wrap around it...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
D-Two = As Helpful As Always :D.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
Linux kernel? Of course it can :D. Android itself? No way :p.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
Yes, the internal storage is 90 MB (30 MB Flash + 60 Internal Storage)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Stevemann:
Cool!

That's got to be tricky. Well done D-Two!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
Perhaps he forgot that Internal Storage is slower than SD Card xD. StrataFlash is a beast but not that memory chip! D-Two, please upload you stuff, maybe you will find our help usefull. Please :(.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] d-two:
The Internal Storage is faster as a Storage Card...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] arztde:
I follow this discussion some time and like to make some remarks in German language for D-Two... Its about about The ESSAY from Eric S. Raymond

„The Cathedral and the Bazaar“

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Kathedrale_und_der_Basar

I am sorry to go on now in German but maybee it can help for better and more soon comming results.

Um dem teilweise Zynismus der wohl aus Ungeduld hier manchmal durchbricht etwas produktives in diesem Thread entgegen zu setzen möchte ich einige Anregungen geben.

Bislang war das Kochen eines Roms immer die Sache eines einzelnen, der zum Schluss das grosse Lob der anderen bekommen hat. Und wenn ich das richtig verfolge war es auch bei Deinen Versionen WinMobile 6.1-6.5 so....

Völlig überraschend hast Du plötzlich ein fertiges Rom gekocht, dass zwar erst nur in Deutsch war aber so viel Aufsehen erregt hat bei den XDA Developers da es wohl das beste war.

Bei Androit wird die Sache aus meiner Sicht etwas anderes, da wir uns auf Open Source Ebene bewegen und ich denke mal, dass zur Umsetzung einiges an Linux zum Verständnis beiträgt.

Wenn ich mich an das Essay oben recht gut erinnere bist Du im Moment die Kathedrale. Einen Basar im Sinne einer Open Source Entwicklung gibt es nicht. Ich denke jedoch, dass im Hintergrund von Dir einige kontaktiert wurden und helfen.

Du wirst hier innerhalb der Umsetzung bestimmt derjenige sein, der unbestritten, auch wenn Du Code vorab veröffentlichst innerhalb des Projectes die Koordination behalten wird. Aber manche Dinge lassen sich eben besser gemeinsam erledigen, auch wenn ich nicht so viel persönlich beitragen kann.

Vielleicht kannst Du Teile ausgliedern, bei denen andere Lösungen beisteuern. Nicht was tomcug möchte also fertigen Code sondern Bereiche wo wirklich Hilfe beigesteuert werden kann. Also Teile, die Deine Arbeit voranbringen. Dieses kann ja auch unabhängig von mehreren übernommen werden und Du kannst entscheiden was integriert wird. Froyo bedeutet meines Erachtens sich auf Neuerungen auch hier im Board einzustellen.

Als Test kannst Du ja mal etwas, vielleicht auch unwichtiges anbieten, einen Teilbereich und sehen ob es funKtioniert. Warum nicht zum Beipiel für den Anfang eine Sprachanpassung.

Dieses Posting ist keine Kritik sondern einfach einmal ein Versuch konstruktiv eine Hilfe beizusteuern.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
When I said "D-Two = As Helpful As Always :D." it was just sarcasm :p. There are no updates for 4 months, I guess this project should be marked as abandoned, especially considering the fact that D-Two doesn't want to share his sources with any of us. This is very strange, maybe it's all fake? I don't see any other reason for such behaviour.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] barnaclebilly:
better off buying an android phone..cant see this happening on a blue angel this year or next..not unless somebody else has a go with more time on there hands..
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
Me and a1Pha wanted to help with development, however d-two wasn't interested. So I guess we can just wait. It's another question how long.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] GnatGoSplat:
If you want it done, better do it yourself. Android from d-two isn't going to happen. I don't know if it's because he wants sole bragging rights or just doesn't like working with others, but it's not happening.

There is already a very primitive Android for BA out there which, like d-two's version, the touchscreen doesn't work. Maybe you can reverse engineer that so you don't have to start from scratch.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
Well said, though i did get donut working, with touch (very rarely worked) and i was happy, but it crashed every 10 seconds.. so forget that
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
No worries gentelmen, d-two is still going strong :D.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] arztde:
Before again the sarcasm. you did write you like to help. But maybee will be better to ask you have a starting point for developement?

Maybee a good idea to use community resources.So if you like to help, maybee intermediate you can tell us the parts you need help and others can support you..
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
Man, I'm not gonna start this from scratch when d-two has working sources. I just offered some help with a1Pha, so if d-two doesn't want it, it's okay ;).
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] arztde:
Just put your code here for everyone to see. Its more useful than a just an announcement. It does noone help your code is just in your head. OR OFFER YOUR IDEAS ABOUT a1Pha HERE INSIDE THE THREAD: As far i see d-two is still reading the thread. And he answers for shure if your help is realy useful.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
Well, if someone were to help me. ive got Donut working with the crashes i mensioned, if someone fixed it, we could have a nice phone going along
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
Upload it, I will take a look. Thank you man!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] fpopic:
yeah i can wait to try any new build for my old blue angel !
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
I think not convenient migrate from win mobile 6.5 for android 1.6, most of the aplications require android 2.1 :\
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
Yeah thats what i thought aswell, so shall i upload it or what?

---------- Post added at 05:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:24 AM ----------

i know what guys, if you could find me an android phone MOST CLOSEST TO the BA i will do it in no time, so i just need an android phone with a INTEL PXA263 400MHz
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
upload, in my opinion most users want it, i'm not the opinion of all :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
5 minutes guys, internet slow as hell
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
Unfortunately, there's no such phone :(. Waiting for your upload, right now I'm trying to get another Blue Angel because my last one fell and LCD died :(.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
WHY WONT IT UPLOAD :(

It stuck at 99% on Megaupload, what shall i do, also on XDA it get stuck (zip file 40MB) im no fake, i want to upload it :(
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Lau456:
try it here ;)

w. w. w.4shared.com
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
Looks like no upload so far. What's wrong Zainuintel?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
My girlfriend have given to me an android phone, so I think in BA I rest in WM, all against apple lol
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
I GT a vrus on my pc s i hv to use fne sottry for splling lolmao sorry, cnt upload so wtf
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] fpopic:
any android realease before xmas ?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
What the **** did you write here :D?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] fpopic:
hahahahaha gengsta in the house :)

ok when you reintall your OS or clean then please upload it.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
men, android is fantastic, will be great if d-two get finish his project
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
LOL :D. Man, I've never had such a good reason to laugh :D.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
Make YOUR android, after you can laught
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
I will write it again, I offered my help with this Android project. D-two didn't want it many times so I don't care. Anyway, my BA died some time ago so I just replaced that with Kaiser. Don't count on this project, it's more or less abandoned.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] GnatGoSplat:
Offering to help is not enough. We need someone to step up and offer to do the whole project!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
Well, this is also some sort of truth. However, I would begin with wondering if BA can really work well with Android. It has no 3D GPU and very little amount of fast NAND memory (StrataFlash). There's no doubt that this would work way slower than WM 6.5. Also, consider the fact that such Android will never offer anything more than WM. You wouldn't be able to play Angry Birds or any other cools games for Android, so you would get the same stuff, just slower with new looking. Is it really worth then? I still hope that d-two can finish the project, however it's just some fun, not something for everyday use ;).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEvO25uzlh4&feature=player_embedded

Take a look here. It's so damn slow, even Launcher animations are choppy. Just try to imagine launching something like Web browser, it would be disaster unfortunately. So, in my opinion we should be just happy with WM 6.5 that d-two prepared for BA. It's still really good OS!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] GnatGoSplat:
I'll agree with you there, the hardware is very old. I'm sure it would only be good for basic tasks and the web browser would probably be painful on any full website, though I'm sure mobile sites would be fine. Unfortunately, WM 6.5 won't run on my Harrier, but Android will. My Harrier is still stuck on PPC2003, but I only use it as a desk clock anyway. If I had Android, I could add Fancy Widgets, weather forecast, current temperature, and all kinds of things to make for a very fancy desk clock. Only reason I haven't sold it is because it's only worth about $5 if even that much, and you can't even get a good LED desk clock for that kind of price. So this way I have a nice desk clock with color LCD!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] jonijones:
Man! I never thought about that! It's a good idea to use an old smartphone as a desk clock! Will try that with my old BA, cuz I never managed to get any Linux running on it and I think the 6.5WM is a piece of very crappy software.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
i reformated my laptop, but i cant find android 1.6 only 0.8 version, which sucks

also, 5 DOLLARS? WTF I WOULD BUY IT LOL, I GOT MINE FOR 49 DOLLARS..., WITH WM.5

BTW LOOK AT MY SIG CAREFULLY
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
No problem, just keep looking for that Android 1.6 ;). Anyway, do you remember where did you get that from?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] GnatGoSplat:
Well, mine is a Harrier, not Blue Angel. Looks the same, but it's CDMA instead of GSM which doesn't use SIM cards. BA is worth more, about $20-50 USD on eBay. I saw the Harrier (Verizon XV6600) has gone for $9.99 and $10.45 on eBay. If i sold it there, after eBay fees, PayPal fees, I'd practically only get $5!

I'm just here because Android for BA will boot on the Harrier.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
i havent got the foggiest idea... i think i either modified the 0.8 one, OR i looked on the interwebz, well im running WINDOWS SEARCH. and sisnce i have 6TB hard drives (3x 2tbs) so yeah its taking time
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] legmovement:
Its very quiet out there guys........

any news on an android rom for our old BAs ?

i wish i was as knowledgable as some of you out there,then i would be able to offer somekind of help.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
Most people think the harware of BA is not enought for android, well I've Vodafone 858 Smart with 528 mhz (my BA run at 530), in 858 I've not the 3D drivers and the only difference is in ram 512 (858) and 128 (BA).

So i think is possible bcause 858 run froyo 2.2.2 very well, the problem is with the games but i play well at Angry Birds, Rio and the funny Hit The Penguin.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] egzthunder1:
It isn't just clock speed when it comes to processors, you know? But i agree with the fact that it should work well.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
Hi!

Where can I download androd for blue angel?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] legmovement:
have you been reading this thread my friend. :-)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
notime2d8, who has been working on an Android port for the HTC Universal, said in this post that any build he does for the Uni should also work on the BA and on the Athena:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=19562924&postcount=412

This only makes me increase my impatience, as I own an Uni and manage a BA (it's acting as my home phone). So, two phones that could benefit from Android and are stuck on the now dead WM...

Perhaps I'm going to ask notime if he can upload all the code/drivers he has collected and coded, to the SVN repository for the project, so I can help by building for both the BA and the Uni.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
Hmmm, very interesting, my BA is at 600MHz but ure right clock speed isnt eveything
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
His builds will work for BA, but not kernel for sure :(.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
I think there are already compiled 2.6 kernels for the BA, I just don't know how easy will it be to find the source for them (in order to make the modifications necessary for Android, if any at all).

Once ported, Android should run smoother on the BA (when compared to the Uni), because the BA has more RAM by default (128MB versus 64MB) and the screen is also smaller (QVGA instead of VGA), meaning the graphics take less RAM space and processing power.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] jm017@msn.com:
i dont know if this helps but you can at least boot the uni from notime if you extract to an ext2 and use the p535 zimage and startup txt. ihave used this on my xv6700. not very functional, but...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
I think dovelopment is pretty much DEAD, so i guess leave it, get somthing like SPB is the furthest you are going to get to android, i am sticking to making software for the BA or Windows Mobile, so yeah, im pretty much taking it out of my life this, my BAS battery life is like 2 hours anyway, so i use it as a gaming machine. And im kinda broke and young :S
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
Yeah, this development's dead, we should let it go and forget ;).
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Stevemann:
Yep. RIP BA Android...

Sent from my HTC Desire HD
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
Really?!

Way to sound like quitters guys. You really can’t give up on a project like this that has so much potential to be great, on a great device. Besides most the hard work has been done. D-two showed us that it could work, there’re drivers for all of the hardware already, I posted the link to the patch that adds most of the support for the BA to any kernel, and I have android builds that will work on it. If someone put forth some effort and made a kernel they could have a test build with most of the hardware working in hours. So the moral of my long rant is this: quitting at this point, is quitting something that was never started. :confused:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
I've no idea how to compile a kernel, i don't know c or c++, i know only mirc scripting, html and php :\
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
its pretty hard right? i think its dead and dtwo is hiding in the shadows waiting for everyone tu forget this poject the furthest i got was the android logo,
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
LOL, you don't know who you're talking to. notime2d8 has ported Android to the Universals so it's not like he's doing anything that hasn't been done before. As he said, Linux has been running on the BA for quite a long time, and IMHO Linux has better hardware support for the BA than for the Uni (on the BA, I could make and receive calls within Qtopia, but not on the Uni). Since Android is essentially Linux with a Java virtual machine (dalvik), what we need to do includes putting the drivers from the old Linux builds for the BA, on the more recent Android kernel. That plus some tweaks and it may get Android working to an usable state, specially considering the BA has more RAM than the default Uni.

But, if you want to pessimist and desist... sure you can, I won't deny you. Just make sure you don't come back if we get anything working. Our development work doesn't depend on people like you demotivating and saying that "Its not as easy as it sounds, the Dovelopment IS DEAD", it depends on the satisfaction we get from producing things that work and can eventually help other people.

The port of Android to the BA doesn't mean you can't continue developing for the now dead Windows Mobile if you want to.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
but, i've only say is not in my possibility, only today i've teach me something about Terminal Emulator and adb in android, i've rooted and changed recovery and rom 2 weeks ago, but is not compile a kernel, only true difficult for me, but not for others, but a day with the experience will be great create a rom by myself, not today
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] tomcug:
If you don't know what you're talking about, better don't say anything. You can't just put drivers from those ancient kernels, they won't work! But after that what notime2d8 said, I think we can start a new development. I just need working BA, my has broken LCD screen, however I can't guarantee any success ;).
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] gbl08ma:
I was talking more directed to zainuintel than L]e[G.

Anyways, notime2d8, if you need any testing on a BA I will be very glad to help (even because I can't seem to be able to boot any Android to an usable point, on the Uni).
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] L]e[G:
ah sorry, my mistake :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] :
yeah, sorry about that :S i was rather tired and annoyed, yeah i changed the comment to make me sound less of an idiot :S yeah sorry, but about the linux, isn't the linux rom image like 200MB or somthing :S and the BA only has 60mb internel right? but if you like i dunno take all the things out of QTOPia and just leave the kernel it might work, i dont know what im talking about, btw if you could give me the QTOPIA linux image i would be grateful :D thanks

EDIT: well i think this is the right thing :D well the QTOPIA you can't download the GPE version because you cant download the zImage well i cant if this isnt it well tell me if you want to download it, here it is, dont do the SD install since you cant download it, i am currently downloading it it takes ages... 15KB/S yeah
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] arztde:
Maybee someone can help me intermediate. I got a Kaiser mobile until d-two is finish it for blue Angel. Its a MDA Vario III.

I did follow http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=680518 this instructions and so on but for the first step to move to Androit i need to install a Kaiser Hard SPL on the phone.

There is a Windows 6.1 now installed.

But i run Windows / Professional and i get no idea about it... All time i try to install it with the Kaiser Custom RUU the Bootloader screen is there but than no conection with USB happen and no Hard SPL will be installed.

Is it Win 7 the reason? Maybee what to change inside Win7?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] notime2d8:
Yeah i just ordered myself a blue angel but i won't have it for a couple of weeks but i should do some test builds then and let you know, maybe sooner if i finish another project. I also thought about what you said earlier. This should run a lot better than on my universal with 128mb of ram due to the lower resolution, not having to do software rotation for a landscape mode, and having a dedicated graphics chip and video memory.