yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
Yes i understood it he took the v.01 and modded just the framework!

not more...but that is good!
[Defy Android Development] eugene373:
Will somebody please post a working link to this so I can start working on building a update.zip...

PS.

You can downgrade the boot.img by dd
[Defy Android Development] psicodelico:
Downgrade boot.img is the same that downgrade firmware?

last nandroid image: http://www.multiupload.com/DVY8AVSK7W (this thread, no bihariel one)
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
working link on version 0.1 or 0.2
[Defy Android Development] ttocs99:
Can i ask wat use devs r plannin with this rom i mean keep us posted?

I mean,basing it on a new sbf but use r trying the most stable sbf with finnland so everything mite work lyk sms and other issues so use dont have to mess abowt changing things, so if thats correct use have saved time and its jus the matter of ting up loose ends?
[Defy Android Development] eugene373:
I plan to rebase it off the tmo-us sbf
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
Mate, you are made in the UK so give us a clear English cos most of all dont have English as native language!:D:D

Im very happy to see that my effort on asking attention of devs on this ROM is working, this thread was almost dead and this excellent job was almost gone. Thank you all guys for being here with us.

I agree with our buddy from the UK, cos the solution for many bugs is simply porting Sense to another Froyo besides Chinese. Chinese was the first froyo that leaked to us, so all those leaked SBFs are being developed by Motorola and the latest ones must have no bugs. Its nice to work over a deblured Froyo too, we will get DefyFroyoSense flying higher in Quadrant scores. I think thast first Chinese was a blur one, tell me if i am wrong.

Im downloading bihariel´s release rite now, will reflash DefyFroyoSense and tell u guys what i got.

Keep it coming!
[Defy Android Development] ttocs99:
Soz my writing is **** lol n hope this rom works 100%
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
SOZ is not a Englisch word, btw. it is not word of any Language:D

I also have new hope, that The Sense Rom will get perfect:) Now we have 2 good developers which help us:)

This will get perfect and one of the best Roms for the DEFY!!!
[Defy Android Development] ttocs99:
@jojo sorry for sayin soz hehe

But how long will it take to do the rom beause i can not wait to use it
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
Let's give the Developers a few days, perhaps on Monday we have a new release on another SBF:)
[Defy Android Development] ttocs99:
Why say monday? Lol
[Defy Android Development] Filipitripi:
The FM radio and bluetooth dont will be working, the hardware isn't compatible with Sense...
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
FM Radio could be modded or?
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
If they work they have time on the weekend;-)
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
i think so, maybe if any hard dev try to port the FM module from another ROM it may work.
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
This is the way i think it could work:) Because FM-Radio works on other roms.
[Defy Android Development] Filipitripi:
I read in forums our chip TI 1271 i think is not compatible with Sense via driver..

We need make a new driver and this a very very dificult work....
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
thats not good news :(

i saw the thread at HTCMania on where bihariel says:

"Bugs:

FM-radio does not work due to incompatibility of the feeling with the radio chip."

it might confirm what Filitripi said... :(
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
i just came back to give feedback about bihariel´s SENSE LEGACY 0.2 rom, based on DefyFroyoSense by Dexter.

You MUST HAVE this as soon as you can.

Here´s a direct link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QBH4TP4R

He changed since the boot animation. notification bar, circular clock, lockscreen and some other several modifications. Im still figuring out what more he did. Im running it over Froyo 3.4.2.155-2 Deblur with the Chinese Boot Only.sbf. Still having issues with led flash. Its VERY VERY BEAUTIFUL ROM and it made me wanna SENSE very hard!
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
Sms issue also still there? :-)
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
how can i check this? i dont have another cell phone to send a SMS to.

Edit: i tried GOOGLE MAPS (navigator) as gps and it werk fine, it just took about 5 minutes to find my exact localization. The weather here is cloudy tonite.
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
SEND a long sms to yourself ;-)
[Defy Android Development] ttocs99:
If the sms works is the rom fully working?

Could sumone post links on the stuff i need lyk the chinese sbf boot thing and the 3.4.2 155 deblur or and maybe sum description of installition thanks
[Defy Android Development] powertony84:
But why don't create a rom based on a finland froyo rom?
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
No Flashlight need to be fixed, and that is only possible when someone port sense to another SBF...
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
SMS still not wokring
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
everyone i just showed my Defy running the HTC Sense interface went very impressed. Both the beautiful it is and the fast it goes.
[Defy Android Development] ttocs99:
Sence might be fast but what about the issues with it like sms and the rest?

And did you benchmark it with quadrant?
[Defy Android Development] arazvan2002:
Originally Posted by fabianowerner View Post

i just came back to give feedback about bihariel´s SENSE LEGACY 0.2 rom, based on DefyFroyoSense by Dexter.

You MUST HAVE this as soon as you can.

Here´s a direct link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QBH4TP4R

He changed since the boot animation. notification bar, circular clock, lockscreen and some other several modifications. Im still figuring out what more he did. Im running it over Froyo 3.4.2.155-2 Deblur with the Chinese Boot Only.sbf. Still having issues with led flash. Its VERY VERY BEAUTIFUL ROM and it made me wanna SENSE very hard!

I tried to restore this backup with cwm recovery after unzipped and is not working. Wrong md5 checksum. How to use it? the file is archived with 7z.
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
So what is now?:)

Do you already started?
[Defy Android Development] viper.:
This rom is still on Chinese files? Why when we have UK 2.2 and others?
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
Someone need to port it ;) otherwise flash and sms could never be fixxed ...
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
Verify the folder name, try to reduce it to a name like "sense" cos im almost all cases of wrong checksum, the solution is changing the folder name.

And answering the viper´s post: its not running over a newer rom cos it got no support from developers. Only users here are interested on finishing this job.
[Defy Android Development] edition-:
Inside the 7z you should have a folder that you have to put on clockmodwork/backup or in goapkrev/backup , then you have to restore the nandroid, don't use the "update.zip" process.
[Defy Android Development] Glen L:
flashed the chinese rom but now the defy wont boot. When i plug the usb in, it has a white LED light on top. But it wont power up

anyone knows how to fix this?
[Defy Android Development] edition-:
If you come from other 3.4.2 you can't the flash chineseROM, just connect to RSDLite and flash yours previous ROM
[Defy Android Development] ttocs99:
is the sms working in this??
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
No sry
[Defy Android Development] Glen L:
Oh, I dont know what version I was on. But I had the official ROM.

Do you know where I can download the stock rom?

Is there another custom ROM I can flash it with? I want froyo :)
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
Man, this is a topic about a ROM, not about flashing and stuff, please browse the forum for the information you need cos its all around, otherwise you will be out of topic and the main purpose of this thread will be lost. Thank you for your understanding.
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
Perfect, but let us think how it goes on with this thread...
[Defy Android Development] ttocs99:
well shudnt the sms get fixed before any flashing because i sms mostly so theres no point in me flashing to this because of the sms issue i hope use guys finish the work on this rom sooner rather then later
[Defy Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
when i made it regular sms worked fine, but some ppl write pages,pages and more in single sms, that does not work.. so 160+ text's are not supported, upto 160chars works.
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
The Chinese Kernel uses 7Bit for SMS and in Europe we use 8Bit...

SMS should work automaticaly if we port it to a Europe Rom.

But we need to find someone, who can do it!
[Defy Android Development] ttocs99:
wouldnt flashing this over u.k 2.2 do the trick???
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
You need the Chinese Boot Only, and then it is the same;-)
[Defy Android Development] ttocs99:
so let me get this straight i just need to flash chinese boot with rsd then the sence rom through recovery
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
When you flashed the UK before!

But there are the same bugs!!! Cuase of the boot_only from the Chinese Version
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
Dex couldnt you help us porting this ROM to a newer Froyo release like 3.4.2-155-2?
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
We should learn it ourself:D ...

Is it so difficult?

If someone tell me which programs i need i would try it...

Also which files i have to change...
[Defy Android Development] Landroid:
this is what dexter said, after i asked him how to port Eden (NotionInk Adam) to the galaxy tab. i think this applies quite well with the defy!

basically you move framework+ app to the galaxy tab,

put tab in debug mode, watch it when its booting the framework, and when it starts complaining about missing native calls missing, you need to figure out which libs are missing or needs to be replaced.

but on top of this you need to mirror the /etc files which are specific for the new framework and rights etc.. clockwidget in /etc as well.

but its not easy, especially if you cannot get root from bootup with adb, then you will have a hard time debugging missing libs, and the galaxy probably just freezes and dont do anything so you're lost.. the magic is to have adb at bootup with root enabled.. ie. ro.secure=0 is a big help..
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
Ok thx! So let us try it.

But we can change something more in our "new Sense Rom"

basicly Dexter choose the Sense Rom from The Desire Z, what is about take this from the Desire HD oder another build of the one from the Desire Z, perhaps the bugs like SMS is in the build of the DesireZSense

So we should start du build a new Rom with a nother build of sense...

Let's have a try. Tomorrow I will start with it.

Today i have to learn for my last exsam of the A Levels...
[Defy Android Development] Landroid:
he actually took the desire hd build ;)

we could try to take the build from the Wildfire S or the Desire S or Incredible S if they are availaible! I get my Defy in the next week or so, and basically i know what to do, so i can help out. I think we should try to use the Desire S / Incredible S Build, as the Wildfire S has 320x480 and the other ones have 840x480.

is there any sense device out with 854x480? then we wouldnt need to mess up with the graphics, and as im not a good artist, i wouldnt know what to do with them...

and personally i wouldnt use the Desire Z build as the Desire Z has a hw keyboard, which we dont have!

And we really should take the FIN sbf as Base because of 2 things:

1. the LED will not be hurt

2. the SMS problem could be fixed (or its a sense problem, this would be harder to fix)

till i get my defy, i can only help you out if you have some questions, but as soon as i get it, i'll throw a Nandroid together, which hopefully works!

And I could set up a google project with an issue list and a wiki for the Sense Port! http://code.google.com/p/motodefy-sense/ <-- link to the google project

What do you think about this?
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
Perfect Idea!

Ok how can i admit this google Project? to write something into?

My Idea was ist also to port ist over 155 Fin Sbf! This is for my opinion the best one which is out up now...

The SMS Problem couldn't be a sense Problem, i searched in some DesireZ Forums about the same issue...but nothing so that could be fixed by that way;-)

There is no device with 845x480 with sense...

but Dexter also get it working, perhaps it works from alone...let's have a look ;-)

But can u PN me your mail or a messanger adress? That i can contact you?
[Defy Android Development] Landroid:
I think you got a PN :)
[Defy Android Development] viper.:
Great.. so this rom supports my language. Thanks arazvan2002
[Defy Android Development] neopeek:
So viper got in contact with me asking for some help and pointing me to this thread! You are trying to update this Sense build or what? I am not familar with SBF's and defy kernels. All I can do for you is to port you over any ROM from a compatible device you wish. Though I just didn't get that blur / deblur thingie? Stock aosp or cm7 won't work for you or what's that blur / deblur discussions around on defy forums? Someone clear me up and I can do something for you (sorry too lazy to browse around here. I am not much on xda-devs but viper knows how to get in touch with me)
[Defy Android Development] edition-:
Bootloader is locked, so we can't have cm7 or other android versions ROMs.

The sense port was already made by dexter, what we are trying to achieve is to fix some bugs, and we all agree that the first thing to do is to port Sense into a newer froyo SBF that was leaked from motorola.

I think the best ones are 3.4.2-155, from finland, and the new 3.4.3-11 from UK, both don't have "Blur"

Blur is something like Sense from HTC but in Motorola, but it is a lot worst.

This deblur ROMs make it easier for the port i guess, but as i said dexter got it mostly working, the next step is porting to a newer froyo SBF.

Thanks for the help.
[Defy Android Development] Landroid:
exactly, and this is what i am working on...
[Defy Android Development] arazvan2002:
These are great news guys. It will be great if we will have a fully working ROM with wifi 100% and bluetooth 100% (maybe radio fm), SMS and maybe more stability.

Thanks in advance for you work and interest to develop this ROM. Maybe we will donate for some beers after the job is done.

Best Regards,

Razvan
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
Landroid, we hope that you have all sucess in this job. Just wanted to ask you a thing, can you work on Sense Legacy 0.2 - this is the newest DefyFroyoSense we have, made by bihariel. This release is the best looking one and has some bugs fixed, here it is:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QBH4TP4R
[Defy Android Development] insestito:
this is the same rom ?
[Defy Android Development] Landroid:
No I dont think that i will use this ROM, I will make the whole thing new with Finland or UK base, as bihariels rom uses China! I dont want to burn several LEDs of you ;)
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
hey guys from this evening to try this rom and devote some time, and start work on a bit!! within the limits of my ability and knowledge!
[Defy Android Development] gomdon:
maybe this would help "http://www.xda-developers.com/android/keys-for-motorola-phones-bootloader-finally-hacked/2/"
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
not for now!!

we talk HERE about the unlocked BL!

before applying to defy the unlock, I think it will pass time!
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
Yes its the version 0.2 of DefyFroyoSense, bihariel just took the first version and fixed some framework bugs and changed the look a bit.
[Defy Android Development] viper.:
Can somebody help me with RSD lite.. i cant press start there,its grey. Anyone experiencing same issue?

I am trying to get sense on defy..

edit: moved spf to C and now i am able to push start but the installation fails( erorr 0x7100) :/

Do i need to put the phone into USB debugging
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
Dude, browse the forum for a "howto" on flashing and try to follow the steps carefully, and you´ll learn. cos its hard to know whats happening with your device only by reading your post.
[Defy Android Development] viper.:
..

Great.. now my phone doesnt respond . It doesnt boot anymore . White LED light is on and i can see the phone in rsd . It was on stock 2.1 .

EDIT: This seems to be real pain in the ass.. Now i have somehow managed to get 2.2.1 UK froyo blur but i still want froyo sense beacuse there is my language. Can someone help me with that . Please
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
0x7100 is ein Datein Problem:

1. SBF Neu herunterladen

2. Pc Neustarten und erneut versuchen

Edit:

oh sry that was Germen:D lol

0x7100 is a Date Error:

1. Download the SBF again...

2. Restart your Computer and try again

Thanks...and from now on, please use google first...about this problem is talked about in so many forums....
[Defy Android Development] viper.:
Didnt you see my last post ? I was able to flash other sbf but not chinese and i still have that problem (on china files-rds says that flash is ok but i cant boot the phone-after that i have switched to uk sbf). And i really need this rom..

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EDIT

This guide is in wrong order..(speaking as a noob who is using defy/rsdlite/sbf for 1 day)..

I was following that guide (above) all the time and i was unable to flash the sense then i saw another guide which is almost the same as this one here but it has slightly different order.

What i have done(for other noobs) :

And it works ! That was real pain in the ass like i've said already . Thanks on all help that i

didnt

get here..

Maybe my English isnt perfect but you got the point.

P.S

@ psicodelico .. That is not exactly correct. Some questions have been answered on this forum but not all. And i can say that there is no noob friendly user guide over there;its all over the forum(its messed up-those things should be in one thread ) and some parts are missing if you are new to android and moto sbf/rsdlite/root/recovery/bootloaders (it is hard to orient which goes where and for what it is). I know that most of member xda dont want to waste their time to make a good guide but you know we(fresh users) dont know some elementary things when there is a word about flashing a rom,etc...

Now when i did see how things are done i can laugh at my self beacuse that is so easy to do right now.

@Guys you are doing that mess here and that is because there is no organization on this forum,there are 4 useless post that doesnt contribute anything (like : "thumbs up" -who gives a **** about that?). So someone doesn't do what he is supposed to do.

Where are the moderators when you need them ? :confused:
[Defy Android Development] psicodelico:
All yours questions have been answered in the forum. You need to learn to search before ask. Answer the same questions every time it's boring and remove the focus of the thread.

And congratulations you did without us!!!
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
*Thumbs up*
[Defy Android Development] AgentSmith:
Wow, all these questions about flashing roms in a thread about creating a sense rom. That's pretty weird and I must say also a bit annoying. Guys, don't get distracted and keep up the Sense spirit. We need more of your enthusiasm here. Thumbs up! :)
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
Agreeded, the main subject of the thread is gone. We still wonder when this ROM will have some support. Iaio told us he will do some tests but i think he´s still working on his roms. All we have to do is wait. Wait some more.......... hey guys, please be patient.
[Defy Android Development] amansth:
process?

assuming that its the same with every custom rom, is sense in general a compilation of apks (launcher, music player etc) designed to work with devices with a tag(or identifier).

if so couldnt we just try to make a makeshift identity changer and download the apks.

but im sure its more complicated than that.

what happened to all the devs who were going to help with this project?
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
hey amansth, thanks for showing up. The devs are all gone, the starter of the project, Dexter, got no Defy anymore and is working on another devices. I dunno what happened to mcm_xyz, he just gone a while. Seems like bihariel is not at XDA anymore, i think he´s gone from the forum, cos seems that he´s active at other forums beside XDA.

Its been a month since last update -0.2- and only the users that had tried DefyFroyoSense are interested on having this ROM developed and fully working like some others (im at JBoogies LiquidArc at moment, its very smooth and complete). There are no developers around working on this ROM at the moment. Thats sad, but since im not a dev, i can only give my feedback and ideas. Maybe you know someone that could help us here....

Cheers from Brazil,

fabiano
[Defy Android Development] javi422:
I second that ^^^ and oh how this rom runs great the only thing for me was data never worked everything else flawless too bad I'm as well not a dev.
[Defy Android Development] amansth:
well, then, couldnt we rally up the devs then.

im fairly new to the forums but i can do the standard flshing etc, and ive seen where this thread has come to.

it seems all we need is someone who can port the base of the custom rom, ie, it needs to move away from the china release.

why not use the cee deblur as a base and dexter could (hopefully) recompile the libs and the apks and us defy users can beta test it.

sense is the only android user interface i like, everything else just seems sub-par.

-hopefully we can get this working.

bihareal and jboogie seem to have experience with this rom so why not contact them.
[Defy Android Development] viper.:
Landroid is working on this...be patient.
[Defy Android Development] javi422:
That's actually really nice to know I would be in line to test anything that comes out I'm the near future.

and really quick question IS anyone that is using the room on a daily getting bad battery times?? i got data to work and nothing else really bothers me so imma be using rom for daily use.
[Defy Android Development] JackSparrow17:
Whats not working on this ROM??
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
main issues:

flashlight works once only

sms cant send over 160 caracthers

weak wi-fi signal

bluetooth not working

and some other bugs that has to be fixed

latest version is SenseLegacy witch is the beta 0.2, made over DefyFroyoSense by bihariel and posted at spanish forum htcmania, he fixed some framework bugs and changed the visual . Its great and still can get the highest scores at Quadrant.
[Defy Android Development] NutFM:
Does anybody know how to install themes from here:

http://translate.google.es/translat...tp://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=186078

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=801928

I have tried to install themes on both 0.2 and 0.1. Doesn`t work.
[Defy Android Development] amansth:
where's the source?
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
source of what

if source about Landroid´s working on the rom, the answer is: this thread few pages early. He just showed up and told us that he was going to port DefyFroyoSense to another leaked Froyo (3.4.x)

if source of ROM development, like a download link, here you are:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QBH4TP4R
[Defy Android Development] Landroid:
I have bad news for you:

My operator decided to not give me a defy, so I can not work active on this, but I will do passive.what I would need, is a person which knows how to work with adb and has some basic to intermediate knowledge of the android system. I will provide you with the rest of the information and hope that we will do it.

PM me if you want to do it.
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
im on it man, tried adb few times, i think i can do that if you tell me the steps.
[Defy Android Development] psicodelico:
I can help you if needed.