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[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
Like the G2's hinge issues? Or the screen problems on the MT4G? Yep, HTC doesn't have hardware problems - ever.

Really though, I don't have a problem with HTC devices. I just don't see how people can willingly ignore HTC's hardware troubles, or software delays (Aria, Hero, MT3gSlide, etc.. are all still on 2.1) then slam Samsung for similar problems.

There are always going to be issues with hardware or software in this industry - release cycles and competition are so intense that it really can't be helped. So if you want help getting your Vibrant running as well as possible, you're in the right place. But if you're gonna start threads about how horrible the Vibrant is (which this thread certainly started out as), then I agree with the original response to this thread: Go sell your phone, break it, shoot it, whatever. Complaining to us won't do you any good.
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
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[Vibrant General] BorisZX6R:
If I had read something like my post I certainly would not have purchased the vibrant. So maybe this thread is going to make someone else's purchasing decision easier.

Now it is time to make the best out of it.

Who knows maybe I will be so impressed that I would want to hang on to the vibrant for a long time.

I never said HTC was flawless or any other brand for that matter but I had the chance to play around with a G2,MT4G, Nexus One, and they worked much better out of the box than my Vibrant.

After flashing the Voodoo injected Kernel things are looking much better, so hopefully once I flash a different rom I will be fascinated...

Sent from SGH-T959 with Voodoo injected KA6 kernel
[Vibrant General] dougstoner:
Yup, flashing roms is how I fall in love with my phone all over again. Plus, it's just fun to try them all out, and see which one suits you best. It's all the themes and eye candy that do it for me (along with some snappiness). Flashing isn't all that complicated, and it's very similar to installing a kernal. Just make sure you read all you can on it, and again, if you have any questions, let me know.

Happy flashing!:cool:
[Vibrant General] Addel:
get out. now.
[Vibrant General] epakrat75:
Are you under contract? What did you do during the trial period? Why did you not just return it if it was so bad. If you hoped it would get better with time beyond the trial period then that was probably not the greatest decision you could have made. Regardless, you're likely not stuck with it. Sell it, give it away, run over it with your car but please move on. If and when the HTC Pyramid becomes a real phone then perhaps that will satisfy you?
[Vibrant General] j0hnZ:
Lawl, really? I have a Vibrant and I just picked up the MT4G. The MT4G lags, and it runs Sense UI, which is the worst thing I've ever had the misfortune of using. It was a pain to root, was almost as bad as my MT3G. The screen looks like crap as well.

I'm currently running CM7 on the MT4G and I'm pretty sure my Vibrant is just as fast except for maybe usb connections. Even the internet speeds has been the same(I figured that would be the case).

I'd say neither one of them is a truly great phone, they each have their merits and stuff that sucks about them. The MT4G is more functional at the things that make it a smartphone, it feels really good in the hand, but I hate to look at it. The Samsung is more functional at playing media, it feels light and fragile in the hand, and it's great to look at.
[Vibrant General] eunkipark92:
Actually I used to use my touch 4g. When u get the one with good screen (half of them comes with washed out, off contrasted screen)it looks good. Except for black of course. The white on mytouch 4g is way better. Cause vibrant have blue tinted to the screen.

It Does not lag FYI. It's fast. It's overclockable to 1.7-1.8.

I was running cm 7.

I came back to vibrant cause vibrant have better gpu and etc. App drawer on mytouch 4g isn't smooth as it is on vibrant.it comes with **** load of qc issues. I replaced it 5 times. Yes 5 times.

And few posts above. Mytouch 4g is not better than vibrant. Well if you still want to get rid of vibrant for used mytouch 4g go ahead :p

Let me give u some examples. Washed out screen, loose battery cover, off centered front facing camera, dmged bazel chrome, dead pixel, dust under the screen, light leaks, squeaking buttons. If u want deal with those go get a HTC phone.
[Vibrant General] villainous_scum:
Vibrant is my first smart phone and I have little knowledge of them but the samoled is the best display out there right now and with all the dev support we have, the vibrant is the best 3g phone on the market! (what can I say, I love my b vibrant)

/s
[Vibrant General] j0hnZ:
Seriously, I posted the least biased post in the whole thread and you try to call me out on it. Sorry I'm not going to cater to you or anyone else about my opinion on the phones.

The phone lagged running Sense, it doesn't running CM7...The Vibrant lags running stock, it doesn't running anything else. Lag is a moot point once you root and install a custom rom. I won't be overclocking them for no reason either.

I'm pretty well versed on the phones, I do this little thing called research. Did you know, you can test the screen before you ever leave the store(just like the vibrant)?. Did you know that you can just look at the box and it will give you a very strong indicator on whether or not you got the bad screen? Anyways, I can use whichever phone I want cause I own both.
[Vibrant General] Oxirane:
Try out the new Bionix-V or Trigger release. Either one. You'll be shocked how amazing it is. Everything is improved... speed, battery, GPS, even just the theming (black status bar looks so much better than grey)- it's incredible. I know a pretty big dev who's always letting me play with the newest Android phones out, and we both agree that the Vibrant is the best thing out right now.

If you haven't already, download ROM manager and hit the "Flash Clockworkmod Recovery" at the top. It makes ROM flashing pretty simple... message me if you need a step-by-step or anything, it's really not that hard.

Also, download SMS backup and restore to save your texts (you need to wipe data when flashing ROMs).

And this phone is pretty awesome in unbrickability. I recovered from a brick where all I got was a little flipphone icon, an orange triangle and a desktop icon just the other day. And all I had to do was ODIN. :D So really, go flash-happy!
[Vibrant General] epakrat75:
Interestingly enough, the new SBL.bin (bootloader) in KA6/KA7 supposedly even fixes the issue that causes that PC / phone icon to display in the first place. In theory, that should make the phone even more unbrickable! :cool: However, I think it's been stripped out of most clockwork flashable zips and may only be available in the Mini Kies / ODIN tar versions.
[Vibrant General] BorisZX6R:
Oxirane, dougstoner and others who recommend flashing a rom, thank you. I will end up flashing a custom rom, but I just don't feel comfortable yet. There are all the necessary step by step instructions on the forum. Thanks for your input and help.

I gotta say even with just the voodoo injected kernel there is huge difference when compared to stock, plus if you use launcherpro things get even better.

Sent from SGH-T959 with Voodoo injected KA6 kernel
[Vibrant General] eunkipark92:
Hahaaa ha-ha u think people knew those stuffs when it first came out? No u can't tell if its good or not just looking at the box. (most of the stores won't you open it unless ur buying it for sure) U need to open it and look at the screen and tilt it to see if it washes our or not. Go do some more research cause u didn't do it right. I don't go to the store and deal with those bs. I get all mine from online and customer service by calling. (im talking about mytouch 4g just in case u ddint get it ;) )

Did u know good screen with good contrast are coming from Sony and bad ones are coming from Sharp?

Did u know u can use terminal emulator to see which one you have?

Beside I was talking about cm7 app drawer. Sense is smoother than launcher pro when going screen to screen.

Oh did u know all the galaxy s have blue tint?

(mytouch 4g)

Please tell me how you can tell if its good screen or not by just looking at the box. Do u have super x ray vision??!!!!!

Ps. Both made in China and Taiwan had good screen so if you were going to say made in China are the good ones... don't bother.
[Vibrant General] eunkipark92:
Double post oops.
[Vibrant General] texasrocket:
Hay don't worry man. alot of people felt the way you did when they first got there vibrant. I know I did but I have been flashing custom roms for a while now and the phone runs alot better. Don't let the people in here make you feel bad for having a different opinion than them about the vibrant.There is nothing wrong with that. if they got there feelings hurt they can move on. Cause some of the reactions you got in here were flat out idiotic. anyway good luck with the flashing
[Vibrant General] Oxirane:
Well enjoy the phone, and best of luck to you with your flashing once you're ready! If you think Launcherpro and a voodoo kernal make a huge difference... you're in for a very pleasant surprise.

eukipark92, I think the blue tint issue has been fixed for a while (I think supercurio fixed it? Apologies to whomever did if I'm wrong). My vibrant certainly no longer has it. Flash a custom rom, see if that makes a difference.

Edit: Also, if you do like Touchwiz, you can find that in custom ROMs too, and it tends to be way snappier and user-friendly than the stock version. I know Bionix V has it, as does the new rom by Einherjar. Others do too. Just saying, it is an option.
[Vibrant General] eunkipark92:
No I was saying all galaxy s came with blue tint. I was pointing that out since previous post said that he can tell if vibrant have good screen or not when all phones came like that. Which desnt make any sense.
[Vibrant General] Oxirane:
Ah- Well, like pretty much every other thing wrong with this phone, the awesome Devs have more than fixed it.

No joke, I think 99% of the things I've ever not liked with this phone has been fixed through custom ROMs. If only Team Whiskey could come up with some kind of code that would make my phone grow a LED flash. :P
[Vibrant General] eunkipark92:
Agreed. U can use noled app from I 9000 thread for notification :p
[Vibrant General] Oxirane:
I was actually referring to the camera flash, but aye, you could :P
[Vibrant General] doug7:
Boris,

Flashing roms is much easier than it sounds like in the instructions. It is intuitive once you get started. Watch the youtube videos, it is a piece of cake.

I have been running the axura roms for a month now and my phone is almost perfect.

Good luck
[Vibrant General] j0hnZ:
I knew what you are talking about. I have a MT4G, had it rooted sim unlocked and CM7 on it, it's garbage. So I unrooted/s-on and packed it up and will be returning it in the morning for a Nexus S. Sense is garbage and I'll never buy another phone with it on there. I would rather buy an iphone...

Did you know regardless of blue tint the screen looks a million times better on the Vibrant? Did you also know that with any current rom from TW/Eugene/Master it's just as fast as the MT4G with CM7?

I know all the ways to tell the box is just an indicator, you know if most people had the Taiwan version and had a bad screen it gives a better indicator to stay away from that one regardless. I know you can turn it, and I know you can use terminal emulator but thanks for asking because I don't have the washed out screen I have the regular ****ty screen version.

Why don't you go to the store? Do you really like returning **** when you can test it on the spot in the store? I'd rather deal with the person in front of me.

BTW I've been talking about both phones because I have both of them in front of me in case you didn't get it. ;)
[Vibrant General] reeneebob:
Well as someone who isn't rooted, won't root, and even when I had the use of the HTC Desire Z for 2 months because of the faulty boards used in the Bell version? If lag is really all you whine about then wow. Honestly I love this phone as is, and have no issues with lag. The HTC was laggier. My battery gets 15 hours with moderate to heavy use, if I get bored with looks I have launcher pro...I will never flash this phone.

To me it sounds like you bought the wrong phone and didn't do your homework.

Do you want to swap? I guarantee the first time the motherboard failscand you have to send it in you'll wish all you had to worry about was some 'lag'. And before you ask why, if I wont root or flash or 'lagfix' , Im posting at xda its because I found it while looking for information on the faulty hardware with the i9000m.
[Vibrant General] j0hnZ:
Who are you talking to?

If me, I love my Vibrant and I hate the MT4G. Spec wise the MT4G has the Vibrant beat. It feels better than the Vibrant in the hands, but I hate it. I hadn't used Sense since I flashed a Sense rom on my MT3G. So I went in with the wife to upgrade both of our phones at the same time because we were on a 6 month upgrade cycle difference. She got the MT4G and so did I cause the Nexus S at the store was pretty laggy. I'm only getting another phone so we are on the same upgrade cycle. I knew all the specs but didn't know how I would like it in real world use, something you can't research. I don't really want a phone running sense so even if I don't like he Nexus it's stock android and I would rather have that waiting in the wings should I mess up the Vibrant.

I don't care if you aren't going to root/flash or put a crappy lagfix on it. I don't do lagfixes, but I do change my filesystem to a different one. It's all user preference if you don't want to you don't have to and nobody is going to make you.
[Vibrant General] dcpetterson:
Heres bottom line, the best thing about android is the abillity to change it, upgrade it, speed it up, uv, oc, theme, lagfix, file system change, brick, un brick, cuddle with, punch, kiss and yell at how ever your little heart desires.

But that also means, if it isn't running as well as you would like, it is 85% your job to figure out how to fit it to your needs. If u want something that "just works", get an iphone and be happy. Be happy allowing someone else to decide what "just works" for you.

Or, get the android with the best hardware specs and decide what "just works" for yourself.

Happy flashing!
[Vibrant General] Monk4Life:
Mods please close this useless and waste of XDA Forums space of a thread.
[Vibrant General] eunkipark92:
I'm tired of arguing so u win hooray u want a cookie?

to tell ur the truth I stopped reading after 1st sentence but thanks for the long reply anyway.
[Vibrant General] mmelo76:
Ok!

Closed Thread.

It is not necessary open another thread similar to this.

I thought it would be possible discussion and advice, no flames ... I was wrong again.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ballerx43:
The fact that the HD2 can boot Android, WinMo6.5, and Windows Phone 7 makes me mad and jealous.

I don't know how many of you there are out there that would like to have the ability to run anything but android on our phones. I agree, Android is superior and is amazing and all, but I get bored sometimes and before you tell me to flash a new ROM... in the end they're all Android. Why not have the ability to flash different OPERATING SYSTEMS onto our phone? I mean hey, if the HD2 can do it so can we!

I understand there is a great deal of work involved in all of this but I'm sure there are others out there like myself who would enjoy such a feature. I created this thread in order to bring those people together so maybe we could find a few developers interested in getting this going.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jxr94:
Well there is a dualboot project underway by a developer Uncorupted. Right now its between 2 android roms, but its still progress.

P.S. you might get flamed for posting here.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidn2evo:
Would be nice to try. Good luck!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ballerx43:
I've been following the dual boot project and it's definitely something I'm going to make use of (Running CM and a Sense rom... what's better than that?), but at the same time I know there's a handful of people who are interested in running winmo or windows phone 7 on their EVO. This is an amazing piece of hardware and I think it'd be great if we could figure out a way to make more things work on it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freeza:
The dev support for the HD2 is superior to the EVO because of its worldphone (GSM) capabilities. Although it would be awesome to have the choices, I doubt it will ever happen on a Sprint device.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ballerx43:
It kinda sucks because I feel like the phone has so much potential if it were running on more OS's
[TG01 General] drkdeath5000:
Im in need of a mobile broadband solution and my TG01 seems the most convenient option. I've been using a USB tether for a week on the giffgaff mobile network and its awesome, great speeds browsing the web, etc only now i've had a warning from the giffgaff network that im using too much data. I didnt realise but they have a 100mb data limit per day so i must have been using a gig a day atleast !

I need an alternative solution and quick so im looking at these mobile broadband sims you can buy that go in dongles. Only im wondering do i even need the dongle, am i right in thinking a dongle is just a modem so my tg01 should be able to do the same provided with the right settings ? Has anyone tried a mobile broadband sim in a tg01 ?

This is the sim im looking at getting http://threestore.three.co.uk/dealsummary.aspx?offercode=1MB5GD015
[TG01 General] olyloh6696:
omg , I'm on giffgaff too :P and i though i was a heavvy data user.. its meant to be unnlimited i thought. dont bother with the dongle. get a sim card then thether with a wifi router to your pc. thats what i do for my tab and ipod touch from my tg01. use a mirom,it has the feature included.
[TG01 General] drkdeath5000:
Giffgaff is an awesome network, its like having a pay as you go contract and its so cheap ! I thought the unlimited data was a bit too good to be true and turns out it was, i'm also finding that they dont allow tethering on giffgaff now. If it werent for the data limitations it'd be the best network ever ... Anyway, i've bought one of the 3 Uk pay as you go dongles + data sim which will be arriving tomorrow so hopefully the sim will work in my tg01 too. The sims seem to be pretty cheap on ebay so when my initial data runs out ill probably just get a couple sims off ebay :-). I guess ill have to cut down on the rom downloads now though, and all the other unecessary downloading so i dont run out of data.
[TG01 General] olyloh6696:
Nice :) Oh, i'm assuming you dont have a Wifi connection. Because i use my giffgaff network a lot for heavy browsing when I'm away from home, but when I'm home, thats where i do my heavy data usage with WiFi. Hope the 3 UK sims all work out for you!

i agree to giffgaff is awesome ! shame the unlimited internet runs out in the 28th feb :/

Cheers :)
[TG01 General] hayzy00:
I too am with Giffgaff. It is against the terms and conditions to tether your network conditions so I would not advise doing this, however...

If you did not use "excessive amounts" of data tethering and you managed to slip under the radar as it were then you should not have a problem, say for surfing the net in emergencies rather than downloading huge files.

Also if you use a giffgaff goodybag then the fair use policy (limit) you mention does not apply. it is truely unlimited.

as olyloh6696 said previously, sharing your connection in this way (ie wirelessly) is a really good idea. Although you will be effectively breaking the terms and conditions of giffgaff, if you use a giffgaff sim card. (I AM NOT ADVISING YOU DO THIS IN ANYWAY!!) however I am unsure of exactly how anyone would be able to tell that you were doing this as it is the app your phone which is accessing the data rather than another computer.

I may be wrong!!!

Giffgaff is a wonderfull network for smartphone users as is XDA a wonderful forum
[TG01 General] drkdeath5000:
Thanks for the advice with giffgaff hazy, i might give that a try if my data with 3 runs out too soon. i wasn't aware the goody bag gave unlimited data so that's awesome thanks. I'd only do it if im desperate though since getting kicked off giffgaff would be a disaster.

Anyway, now to post back the results with my 3 data sim in the tg01. It works but has its issues, basically i've inserted in the sim into the tg01 added a new data connection with the apn 3internet and everything else blank. This works fine but occasionally i find the connection disconnects itself and results in a limited connection (no internet). This is easily resolved by turning the data connection off and on again so its not too much off a bother. Besides im guessing this is the same on all networks since it did exactly the same when i was tethering with giffgaff.

Now the other thing i think worth mentioning is the dongle i bought with the 3 sim, basically its useless and if your looking into using any sort of mobile broadband id recommend just cutting out the dongle completely since you dont need it. Just buy a sim and put it in your tg01, in my experience these dongles are too much trouble. I've spent a total of 28 hours (over 3 days) trying to get the dongle to work but it just wont connect. Dongle reports a full signal where i am but simply wont connect, tried at a friends and it worked first time. Rang three today, spent over an hour on the phone and they've finally determined its faulty, even though it works elsewhere ? There sending a replacement which i can almost guarantee wont work ...

So apart from the dongle these things are great lol :-)
[General Topics] deliriousDroid:
So I am trying to teardown my old LG eve. The screen doesn't work anymore, I think its the connection ribbon, not to sure tho. Anyways, my cousin had it when it broke, and he decided to try tearing it apart first. Long story short, there is one screw that is so stripped I don't know if I will ever get it out. Any ideas? I don't want to try drilling it out unless I have to.

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[General Topics] deliriousDroid:
Bumpity bump!!! :D

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[General Topics] dbzfanatic:
You could try the old "make a tool" trick. Melt some strong plastic into the crevice and let it cool then use that as the temporary screwdriver, it'll form to the exact shape of the stripped screw. You might not get enough grab to loosen it if it's in there tightly but it's worth a shot, just make sure you use a different plastic than the phone's case or they'll fuse, which won't be good.
[General Topics] deliriousDroid:
Hmm, sounds like its worth a shot. I will try it when I get home. Thanks

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[General Topics] dbzfanatic:
No problem, post here and let us know how it goes.
[General Topics] deliriousDroid:
No such luck, it is pretty badly stripped.

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[General Topics] dbzfanatic:
There's always the "press really hard" method and if that doesn't work there's the "hammer" method :P. Honestly it seems like drilling it out might be your only option at this point,especially if it isn't under warranty and you can't get it replaced.
[General Topics] deliriousDroid:
Well, there is warranty, but I'm not sure if claiming for it is a good idea... you see, I owe Rogers a fair bit of money, that I am not planning on paying them cuz they were dicks to me. I bought a extended 2 year warranty tho, from the Rogers store, its from a company affiliated with rogers, I'm not sure if they would just keep the phone on me till I paid up.

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[General Topics] deliriousDroid:
Hmm, do hammers and smartphones mix well? I do know what you mean, I'm just not sure if the internals could take the vibrations

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[General Topics] deliriousDroid:
Bump!!??

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