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[Nexus S General] robstunner:
I find that the nexus keyboard is better than the iPhone's keyboard, but not as good as the windows phone 7 keyboard. I alternate between swype and stock android keyboard on my nexus. Both work flawlessly for me.
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
Ok I'm going to try typing this response entirely on the gingerbread keyboard. Since one of the first things i installed was swype this is my first time really tying to use the stock keyboard. I'm actually finding myself quite enamoured and I'm finding the number of errors either on par or less than I produce on swype. No double hits nor missed space bars. My argument has always been that seype is faster but this is quite fast mind you I swype with one hand and am now typing with both thumbs. I'm impressed.

Now I'm going to give swift key at shot. It's quite nice. I the last time I tried it I pretty much rejected it based on the fact it wasn't swype, and I never gave it to the real chance but now I'm finding it to be decent. I can undrstand how I might need to use this for a week to get it to understand me.

I think it is a bit of a new one. To be removed from the UK. We are a few days. (That was all done by hitting the space bar)

And now swype. I must say it feels a lot slower after how fast I was typing on the other two keyboards.

Sent from my Sublime MoDaCo Nexus S running Netarcy's amazing kernel!
[Nexus S General] cigar3tte:
SwiftKey fan here. I've tried using the Gingerbread keyboard to try and get used to it, but everytime I'm about to hit numbers, I find myself preferring Swiftkey's layout for numbers (phone/calculator style).
[Nexus S General] abhilashraj:
just my two cents.. but have you tried dictating the text to your fone?
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
I've given that a shot, but for long and important messages, it's not reliable. Also, I feel like it operates much like Swiftkey; it's impressive when it gets your words right, but it often doesn't. But I have used it for quick short responses while I'm driving or something.

Regardless, the keyboard should be able to operate properly and keep up with my typing speed.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
How fast would you say you typed this?
[Nexus S General] willcpfc:
Trade nexus and get a new phone......and be happy (but I doubt anything would be right).
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
My wife claims I am typing at about about 55 words per minutes. Regardless of the actual speed it just feels a heck of a lot faster than I ever have been with swype. And as you can see from the previous post my accuracy with swiftkey seemed less than satisfactory. Its funny, what started as a simple test actually changed my mind about what keyboard I should use.

Sent from my Sublime MoDaCo Nexus S running Netarcy's amazing kernel!
[Nexus S General] meetagrawal:
I really don't see how anyone could actually use swype unless circumstances were that they had to text and email with one hand. Sir its nifty but it really isn't efficient.
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
Swype is phenomenal for one handed typing, masturbation jokes aside. Texting or emailing while in traffic (stopped of course) or while walking or while eating or while doing anything that requires the use of one of your hands is slow and inaccurate with most keyboards, but with swype its quick and easy. Its actually wonderfully efficient depending on how you type on your phone.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Very cool. Please keep us up to date if you should begin encountering any of the issues I mentioned. Unintentional double hits with the first letter of words (eexample) or last letters (examplee); or the opposite, missed letters (eample) or missed space bar hits (like thisexample).

Is there an app or way to measure words per minute on the phone?
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Here we go. Try downloading "myTextSpeed" app. It's free. You can measure you WPM there. So far, I'm tyipng at 65.9 in one of the exercises. Will try more.

You can even put in Custom sentences to speed test with. I put in a few of my most commonly typed sentences (like, "Hey when are you getting out of work?" "Let me know when to leave." "I'll meet you there." types). So far, hitting the high 60's WPM. My last score was 68.6. EDIT: I've hit mid-70's too.

And yes, a lot of my aforementioned errors came up. Anybody else can test their typing speed and see if when reaching the 65+ WPM that they see any of my aforementioned issues?

If enough people can and prove that they don't see those issues at those speeds, then it's time for me to exercise my warranty.
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
Phrase: The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

Gingerbread Keyboard:

Test 1: 47.8wpm, 1 mistake (the quick brown fox jumps over the lady dog.)

Test 2: 56wpm, 1 mistake (the quick brown tox jumps over the lazy dog.)

SwiftKey:

Test 1: 39.8wpm, 2 mistakes (the quick brown tox nulls over the lazy dog.)

Test 2: 48.6wpm, 1 mistake (the quick brown tox jumps over the lazy dog.)

Swype:

Test 1: 42.4wpm, 2 mistakes (the quick brown fox humps over the lazy dov.)

Test 2: 50.7wpm, 0 mistakes (the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.)

So I used the most typical typing test because it seemed prudent. I was the fastest and most accurate with the Gingerbread keyboard (I discount the second Swype test because my fingers knew the exact path to trace so its less fair) and the least accurate with Swiftkey. While I'm not as fast as you, I wouldn't say between 40 and 60 WPM isn't bad. I did notice a difficultly pressing the space bar in the first Swiftkey test, hence it being the slowest score.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
This is truly infuriating. It often misses simple auto corrections like "youd" (which should and usually does change to "you'd"). There are other examples. Gingerbread keyboard just can't seem to keep up.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Interesting stuff, Kenvan. Please keep us updated if you continue using the stock keyboard. I've also noticed it sometimes misses common auto corrections (the most common seems to be "youd" which should normally change to "you'd"). Based on the auto correction system, shouldn't I never see the word "youd" in any of my messages unless I specifically picked it? Maybe, again, at higher WPM speeds, the keyboard can't keep up. I don't know.

But the most common offense is certainly the double-word hit. Let us know if that ever comes up. Maybe as you get accustomed to the stock keyboard, your typing speed will increase, and you'll begin to notice it.
[Nexus S General] rzaratin:
I have the same feeling.

I used to type faster in my Milestone using the HTC_IME keyboard than using the Nexus S + HTC_IME.

I am convinced the Motorola Milestone touch screen is better than Nexus S.
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
I've been using the keyboard for 2 says now and I'm loving it more and more, to be completely honest. The auto correct seems to be working perfectly for me (much better than swiftkey which actually changed fox to tox in my test) and it is just absolutely intuitive. I rarely find myself using the delete key and its never double tapped or missed a space bar. Given all of that I'm beginning to think it might be an issue with your phone or with the way you type. I've admittedly never used a Blackberry but I did for quite awhile use the old android keyboard which might be an explanation as to why I have no issues with this new iteration, I'm not really sure. Heck I'm even typing this with one hand while smoking a cigarette and I can still count the number of times I've used the delete key with one hand.

Sent from my Sublime MoDaCo Nexus S running Netarcy's amazing kernel!
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Kenvan, when I type with one hand (basically one finger) I too don't have any of the issues I mentioned.

The problems arise when using two fingers (thumbs) and typing at a high speed (my aforementioned test put me at around 65-75 wpm). It could be my phone, but as I said before (or in another thread) I've typed on two different Nexus S' handsets before at Best Buy and saw much of the same issues come up (double letter hits, etc).

I suppose it would be good if it truly was just my phone, but I'm skeptical, especially since when using Smart Keyboard Pro, I don't experience these problems (but I unfortunately experience other problems - SKP is very prone to missing space bar hits. I don't know why).

I wish more people would test their typing speed and see if they're seeing the problems I'm seeing at higher speeds.

But thanks Kenvan for trying/testing.
[Nexus S General] jivemaster:
Really?! I found the milestone screen to be total rubbish, easily the worst I've used. The ultra responsiveness of the nexus s has made this easily the best screen I've encountered on an android phone, with the desire hd also being a close second.

I think some people are attributing the highly sensitive screen as a negative, when it really isn't. People have just gotten used to less sensitive screens, which has caused them to keep their fingers too close to the screen between key presses causing all kinds of additional strokes, errors etc.

Obviously the missed auto corrected words like "youd" are inexcusable. I'd say the auto correct dictionary will be updated in time.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
It's a touchscreen device, not a "hover-screen" device. Try holding your finger just off the screen. The phone will register it as a touch even though no contact is made. It is too sensitive.
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
I've tried that test to no avail. However that's not why I why I wanted to post here. I wanted to update that I've been using the gb keyboard for a few days and I've begun to notice the issues in the op. Now its not happening very often but I have seen one or two double tapped letters and missed spaces. For me these don't happen often enough nor do they impede my typing enough to stop me from typing quickly or efficiently.

Sent from my Darkginger CM7 Google Nexus S running Netarchy's amazing kernel!
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Thank you for the update and for testing.

=T Star?

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=14420

Edit: I've done some more digging and other people have reported the same issues/glitches; and sometimes for other devices. So as I had guessed before, it probably does have something to do with the sensitivity of the screen, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was more software related. I can't replicate this problem with Smart Keyboard Pro on the NS. Also, especially by the fact that it only happens to the first letter (or sometimes last) of words.
[Nexus S General] ryandi7:
My wildfire running CM7 has the double letter problem as well, but I haven't really paid attention to missed spaces.
[Nexus S General] LikeAG2:
Why not use Swype
[Nexus S General] divemasta:
Honestly, you will never get that comfort like with a blackberry coz it is a touchscreen phone. You cannot compare a touch-keyboard with a keyboard like blackberry is using.

I am using Swype, that helps a lot and it is for free.

If you are typing a lot the best is to do it in landscape mode ;)
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Agreed. I think my comparisons are mostly between the iPhone and other touchscreen devices. For example, I've never experienced these issues on my Vibrant -- at least not to the extent of the NS. Most certainly never had double-letter hits or missed keys/space bars on the iPhone.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Which is why I believe it's more of a software bug than hardware (though I agree that the overly sensitive NS screen can contribute to this). This is why it only happens with the first letter of words (like "tthis") or sometimes last (like "thiss") and never with letters in between.

It's odd... and annoying as hell.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Folks, if you would like to see Google implement custom auto corrections, star the request: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=14420

I think it'll go a very long way in improving the typing experience. Thanks.
[Nexus S General] ryandi7:
It doesn't really bother me since I don't type that fast (Wildfire's small screen contributed to that), I can understand your annoyance though. And yes I agree that this would most probably be software issue, improperly coded "Space" event handler or something, since the problem occurs only at the beginning or the end of a word (quick keypress after a space result in double letter; quick space at the end of a word result in double letter)

Edit: I tried typing really fast, and this problem seems to occur more frequently. Another educated guess would be the multitouch introduction to Gb keyboard that doesn't interact properly with Space presses. I never had this problem with Froyo stock keyboard.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Interesting. Yes, it makes sense that it might have something to do with the space bar. Unfortunately, not enough people type fast enough to create this problem, and thus, isn't garnering much attention with Google, despite my efforts to report it. http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=4d8d957040f12326&hl=en Perhaps you'd like to add your explanation?
[Nexus S General] ryandi7:
Done. I also Googled and found a thread with similar issue, though nothing is helpful there. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=940585
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
A new issue that I've noticed creeping up is that it sometimes repeats words. This is going to be a little hard to explain and even harder to believe, but I just wrote:

"What are you going to dodo?" I have no idea why "do" came up twice. I am positive I did not type it twice. I've noticed this happen before with other short words as well, like "what toto say" or "where should we gogo".

This keyboard is seriously wacky.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
BTW Kenvan, did you want to add your two cents? http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=4d8d957040f12326&hl=en&fid=4d8d957040f1232600049c4086e4edcf I think the more comments it gets, the more it might help.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Oh my goodness, Ryandi, you are absolutely right about the space bar effecting this. This has nothing to do with typing speeds. This is a straight up glitch with the Android keyboard.

Try typing "Good game" but after the "g" in "game" backspace and hit the space bar and type the word "game" again. It should result in "ggame" despite a single press of the letter g. NOTE: You need to backspace all the way until the end of the word "good." Example: Type g-o-o-d-spacebar-g-then backspace the g and the spacebar until your cursor is at the end of the "d" in "good" - then hit space bar again and type "game" ... it should [sometimes] result in "ggame."

SECOND NOTE: You don't even need to finish typing the word "game" after erasing. All you need to type is "ga" and it'll come up as "gga"

This doesn't happen every single time, but it happens every now and then, so just keep trying. It should occur.

I can now recreate this problem. It isn't the oversensitivity of the touch screen. It's the Gingerbread keyboard.

Can anyone try and confirm?
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
Man I tried this for ten minutes and never once saw it occur. I think what you're experiencing is the placebo effect; because you think you've found the answer it seems like it is happening as a direct result but I just don't see it as the case. To be completely honest, I can attribute nearly every double letter appearance to a split second of hesitation before typing the letter. I noticed that in that very brief moment of trying to think of what to type next my finger accidentally taps the letter with most likely just a single ridge of my fingerprint before I actually type the letter.

Specifically speaking, if this is not something that happens every time you follow the procedure and unless the test is being carried out by a robot there are far too many variables that could influence it; for example micro-vibrations of your fingers as a result of the pulsing of the blood through your veins etc. Unless it is something you can reproduce at any speed of typing, every time its not evidence of anything. Everything I see makes this seem like its just an issue with how sensitive the screen is.

Sometimes when you look at a horse too long and too minutely it starts to look like a zebra but it is still just a horse.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Kenvan, I understand you're skeptical, and you've been incredibly patient and helpful. You were skeptical the first time too, until you noticed the double-letters happening yourself. I guess I shouldn't flat out deny that it has nothing to do with the oversensitive screen, but I think Ryandi is on the money--it has at least something to do with the space bar too. It explains why it only occurs with the first letter of words, or sometimes the last. It's always before or after you hit the spacebar.

Can you tell me the procedure you did to try to recreate it? Maybe try it with two other different words.

Remember, type the first word, then the first letter of the second word, then backspace/erase that first letter AND THE SPACE (from the space bar press after the first word), then obviously hit space again and finish the second word (or as I notice, you don't even need to finish the second word).

EDIT: I'm going to make a video of this when I get home and put it on Youtube. I can recreate this with any two words.
[Nexus S General] kenvan19:
I did exactly that, starting slowly and getting more quick as I continued. I never once was able to produce the exact issue. I've seen double letters but I've almost always been able to attribute them to personal error. Any sniper will tell you how important it is to be aware of your physiology and how it effects you. Now while we're not talking about something as serious or dire as taking the perfect shot but it is important to know that there are micro-contractions going on in the tips of your fingers. Those are definitely large enough to cause your to double tap especially since the speed at which you perform tasks is highly in tune with the processes in your body. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just offering an equally likely possibility that seems to me to be the answer to what is causing my issue.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
No problem. I'm going to make a video and put it on youtube when I get home later tonight.

EDIT: Also, it's not a coincidence this doesn't happen with Smart Keyboard Pro.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
My goodness, i can even predict when it'll happen.

Whenever you start typing a new word, it's usually underlined (spell check or the spelling suggestion kicking into place).

Typing out "good game" looks like this "good

ga

" usually. But right before the glitch occurs, the "g" in "game" doesn't have the underline. Whenever it has the underline, it'll continue typing out normally. You get "good game." Whenever the underline disappears as you start typing the second word, you'll get the glitch, "good gga"

EDIT: An example of the glitch happening when typing looks like this: "Good g

game

" before you hit the space bar when typing a word, it'll remain underline. The glitched letter, in this case the first letter "g" doesn't have an underline.

Goodness, I can't wait to make a video of this. I swear, I'm not insane.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Other users at other forums have reported similar issues, though nobody can seem to recreate it. (Hang tight. I will record video as soon as I get home. I just hope my camera can capture it clearly).

Anyway, some people have reported that it does double-presses of the first two letters even... like "ththis." I can confirm I've experienced this as well.
[Nexus S General] dinan:
Well I typed out "good game" about 100 times as fast as I could. I would get errors sometimes... but never this double key bug you're describing. I'm typing it as fast as I can too... as fast as I am on my PC almost.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Again, it's not about typing speed. Are you sure you followed the exact procedure to recreate the glitch? Have you ever noticed double-letter issues with the first letters of words (eexample) whilst typing on the stock keyboard?

The video is currently uploading. It's apparently really big so it's taking a while... stay tuned.
[Nexus S General] dinan:
I'll just wait and watch the video because I've tried it very slowly as you described and I can't get it to do what you're saying... I've never had double press issues with the keyboard but I also haven't used it very much. I only used it for a week after I got the phone and then switched to Swype... I think it's a good keyboard though =\
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
UPDATE: Video is fully uploaded. Scroll down to my next post to find link and discussion.

Well, the video is uploaded, but YouTube is saying it's still "processing."

I really hope it goes through. If it doesn't, I'll upload again at work tomorrow where the connection is more reliable.

EDIT: This is what I'm getting from Youtube: "We are currently in read-only mode. Your upload will continue but will not go live or be editable until read-only mode is over." Great timing.

Stay tuned. It'll eventually finish processing, or I'll upload tomorrow at work.
[Nexus S General] jlevy73:
Thanks for the uploading the video. I can see why the frustration, that's a bizarre little glitch. I just spent the last 20 minutes trying to duplicate your findings and could not.
[Nexus S General] Vulpix:
Can't duplicate the bug here either... Anyway I hated the iPhone keyboard, I love my Nexus S stock one.
[Nexus S General] Xandlinger:
Tried to replicate what you did for about 25 minutes... nothing.

Very strange indeed!