yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] p-slim:
HTC nor Google has ever officially stated a gingerbread release on evo, please don't make up lies.(are you putting rom dev in the same boat as app pirating or app creating? If so you're so lost) Also by them trying to do this it possibly will add extra security measures to Netflix which will then turn around and make us wait longer. Also a couple of devs have replied to the thread. Were you correct on any count?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] athlet1c:
SIGH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Badious:
QFT

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[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] omegasun18:
it comes down to impatient people :P. personally i agree unless it is a very easy mod to ge tthis working it is a waste of time since netflix is working on this already. no one is going to die from having to wait a few months or even a year for the true netflix app.

the donations as we have learned time and time again are a waste. people like to post they will or would donate and then never do as seen wit every single bounty based thread.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] danon.brown:
watching the thread count increase thinking that there is progress. if this works i'll get my netflix subscription back.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] |Jason8|:
So, uh. Apparently this isn't going to work without recompiling the binaries for our EVO's processors. I've been hanging out in the Google TV hackers channel, and they have had these files for a while. And they're all compiled for x86, to run on the Atom processors of the Google TV.

Hate to rain on the parade, but this isn't going to be the simple "edit the APK and it works" kind of port that everyone expects coming from one phone to another.

It's not going to be an easy project, but if there are any developers anywhere that could do it, they would definitely be here, on XDA-developers!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] mrnv45:
I doubt the netflix app will even cost.. im sure it will be free like the kindle app or any other service app but to access it more in depth u gone need a netflix account to work the app.. so I doubt pirating will be the reason for delay.. fact is the probably the specs of these phones running netflix.. I know they wont wanna release a half ass app.. im sure they are working hard with android devs and google devs to get the beat quality app there is..

evo 4geezus
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] sgt. slaughter:
um no it aint the specs of the phones thats stopping the app.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] zorack8000:
Do i kneed nefix subscribion too use .apk. If corect, wher would do i the input the user identifikatshon and word pass.? How do magnets work.?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] mrnv45:
well it sure aint piracy.. i can almost promise its a free app if not staionary... just takes a login to access it.. kinda like the blockbuster one..

only piracy is if someone can get a permy hack on an account and shares it but they havent done it for blockbuster so i doubt they will for netlix..

the specs for each phone to fit on one app will be a issue...

that was the biggest argument between iphone and android

apple dosent have to creat multi versions of apps for each phone just one standard app that works for all teir devices.

unlike android which has multiple phones all different specs.. one app has to benefit for each phone..

thats what i was tryin to say the speccs of each phone is whats the delay for android.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] sgt. slaughter:
Its not piracy of the apk, duh itll be free anyway. The piracy they are worried about is getting the movies downloaded once streamed to phone, which is a valid worry esp with the talented devs here and opensource OS.

There are multiple phones that run android and the older ones will likely not be supported if not able to handle the app. I feel very co.fident the evo and many other android phones easily will run the app fine. Hell if directv can put sunday ticket on android it isnt going to be that big of hardware issue.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] dboftlp:
Nuh uh!

Uh huh!

Nuh uh!

Uh huh!

Nuh uh!

Uh huh!

Enough already... Sheesh!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] shiftwig113:
bump

10char
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] sportsnut001:
Dumb question, what does 10 char mean? I see that on here quite often.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Rakeesh_j:
You'll never see an official netflix app for the HTC Evo. Even if you did (highly unlikely,) it would only be available for sense roms (no CM7/aosp.) The reason you'll never see it is because hollywood studios demand there be a DRM system so that there is no chance of piracy of their movies, even though pirates much prefer ripping DVD's or Blu-Ray discs (where there's theoretically no piracy due to DRM, except people pirate from them all the time because virtually all forms of DRM are able to be broken.)

Because of the open design of android, no such DRM system can be employed without phone specific integration, unlike say WM7 or iOS. This means netflix will only be available to specific phones as opposed to being available on say the android market. Think like how skype was for verizon phones, except unlike skype there never will be a general market release.

Also this isn't because netflix as a company doesn't want to release a general android apk (they really REALLY do,) this is entirely because the companies that provide netflix with content demand it.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] aimbdd:
Exactly.... (I don't know about never seeing for the evo) But the rest is correct.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] focbuster78:
I cant wait for this to be working!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] bcarter2000:
10 character minimum for posting

Sent from the xda app.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Cubfan99:
Then how did the Evo manage to give us a Blockbuster app in the latest OTA release? I call BS.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] tx_dbs_tx:
Good call. DRM has been implemented in the latest OTA for the EVO. I know all of you noticed all the random DRM notifications on your EVO's... right? With that said this apk is for sure a dead end. Device authorizations also has to be overcome, which will be a major feat in its own. Wait for the real thing. Netflix app will be available when it's ready. I'm quite sure the EVO will be a compatible device for the Netflix app when it's finally released.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] austinbrady:
You need that many to post...
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jcalba89:
We might not get an netflix app soon, but check this out

http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2...hulu-netflix-viewing-to-android-beta-testers/
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] xdaboy4:
amin

I have only posted once in the three yrs I have followed XDA, and I must say i cracked up more than anything reading this thread! On a serious noteI just love all the info!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] xHausx:
They added more DRM bloat to slow our phones down. There is actually a thread around here on how to remove some of their settings and fix all the streaming/3G issues the update caused. My guess is netflix will just do more of the same and make everything that much slower and inefficient.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] youngbasedgod:
i need this in my life
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] chrisctb:
haha wow this thread brought the lulz
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] fatkitty420:
Going to bump because

1) I pay for netflix and I want to be able to utilize it

2) Since when does the development community "sit tight and wait" for something to come out.

Hell no. We buckle down, throw some paypal donations around, and get cracking to make it work our way on our devices.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] shiftwig113:
^

amen

10char
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Maximiano:
+1 Perfectly said
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] p-slim:
You sound like a 2yr old kid. You pay for the subscriptions Netflix provides, that doesn't mean pirate the app and use it on devices that have security risks, like android.

2) we sit back as a community and listen to the app creators. They can create a Netflix app easily. They don't want THEIR product out there, so guess what you have to sit back and wait. They know what happened with swype and they don't want that. As many have mentioned they have created the drm system we see with blockbuster so this thread is pretty much useless anyways, not happening. But to think you deserve an android app on your evo is a little out there.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] sgt. slaughter:
this made me laugh.

so what when we get a leak of a software update early then everyone here that cooks up a rom off of the leak and everyone that flashes it to there phone early is wrong? get real bud.

its a app, were not talking about pirating a pay app here. And the Swype comparison is a little redic and another situation and argument all on its own.

If your not going to be positive and help then dont bother posting.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] p-slim:
This made me laugh even harder. So you as an adult are putting a rom dump in the same boat as trying to get a pirated app to work on your device when I have posted a couple of links where Netflix states they specifically don't want us doing this. You sound more foolish but go ahead and keep laughing, maybe one day it will make sense to you.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] gzibell:
Seems like all of the posts under this topic are just a huge argument between everyone. Instead of throwing opinions around and figuring out who is right and wrong. Wouldn't it make more sense to focus on the dev of something new and great for our phones? Lets all just get along and contribute too an equal end. If you don't agree with what is being developed you can chose just to not read the topic. The first few pages were real work. Everyone was excited and contributing where they could.....now it is a ''stupid'' thread. the only thing that's gotten accomplished in the last few pages is well........

I for one an great full for all of the people smart and determined enough to spend so much of their free time cooking, theming, and most importantly developing. You should be too. I get almost sick every time I see people complain about something not working right or there not liking any of ROMS that are available or arguing weather dev should continue working on a project?!?! Anything that is developed for my phone gives me a choice.. Being able to choose is one if our greatest strengths. Soo...finished with that.

Has any progress been made on this as of late? Or has the dev hit a wall?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] skydeaner:
fo realz 10 char
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] sgt. slaughter:
Exactly, which is why if you dont have anything to contribute to the development or don't have anything positive to say about it then you should stay out of the thread.

There is no need for people to go around posting how wrong stuff is.

Hoping we can get some headway on this sometime.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] KELO777:
wow this is great

Man i hope it starts to work
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] fatkitty420:
I'm going to try to not get too philosophical to you.

Netflix already stated they support Android to the fullest extent and it's their content providers that are tying their hands. This means that closed source systems are automatically placed "higher" in the eyes of any company trying to develop. This is bad for any type of open source community... Anywhere.

Now if we can, as a community, bypass all of this by developing ourselves... We essentially tell these content providers that no matter what their money making goals are, they cannot regulate the open source community. This idea can be likened to Net Neutrality.

After all of their hard work preventing a Netflix App from being unlocked and it gets cracked in a matter of weeks, maybe they will work on a better system instead of trying to bend the will of everyone to fit their own. Corporations are supposed to appeal to the consumer, not the other way around. I mean, seriously, who the hell is going to rip Netflix content from a phone? The fat cat execs are obviously naive and we need to show them.

So, as you chuckle to the people in this thread who are pushing for development, I'll sit right here and know that I'm at least attempting to have my voice heard.

[EDITED FOR PROFANITY]
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Dan330:
this would be cool..

to use my Netflix subscription and watch on my evo!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] JimmyMcGee:
Everyone quit fighting about the "morality" of this situation. This is a development thread in a development forum. If the discussions are not about development, then it shouldn't be discussed. If it is discussed. I will "reward" you with a temporary ban from XDA.

Now everyone play nice or I will be forced to close down this thread.

Have a great day.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] p-slim:
you definitely don't know what your talking about, did you even read how this thread was started. Nobody is trying to create an app in this thread, they are trying to get an app that was loaded on another phone and pirate it onto the evo or any other android, develop the app ourselve *smh* *double facepalm slap*

2nd if you think people will not try to rip the videos and store them on their phones for future use, then you are lost more then i think. look at youtube, there are apps like tubemate and youtube ripper that rip those 15 minute or less videos, you're telling me you don't think someone will try to rip full length movies???
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] sgt. slaughter:
See This below which was posted before you...

Now back to topic folks, With DRM being added in the last update one would think we are somewhat closer to getting this thing working. I'm guessing after MWC well get some more leaks from some other phones that I would expect to have this loaded.

What else is holding it back right now?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] shiftwig113:
/facedesk @ non development comments (including this one)

guys orrebmas said he might take a look at this, but he has to figure his hdmi project first (old news)
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] :
so enough bickering has any progress been made

please? cause im soooooo excited i could theoreticly watch netflix <which i pay for> on my hd2 8DDDDD
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Ep3n3wp:
Off topic.. But what happened to the hdmi project? I was really looking forward to that....
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Circular Pastry:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/14/netflix-on-android-confirmed-for-snapdragon-phones-first/

Tapatalked from my liquid SUpersonic...
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] KELO777:
any news on it

How is it going
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] aimbdd:
So we wont be getting netflix... hmmm
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] p-slim:
im confused, i posted this same information in this very thread here 10 days ago.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] indagroove:
Techincally a rom dump violates the terms of use set forth by the manufactures. They just haven't complained so its not enforced.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] cloak.n.dagger:
Looks like someone has this working...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/android-powered-lg-revolution-caught-streaming-netflix-at-mwc-v/
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] millerd79:
Looks like w need the dump from the LG's Revolution.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] luckylui:
Working for the new snapdragon hardware phones that are coming out in the future... looks like an upgrade for me when sprint comes out w the next top line phone.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] TMartin:
Well since one was posted quite a few pages back...I don't think that is the issue.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] shagav:
Just because they say "Netlfix will OFFICIALLY support FUTURE Devices that meet their DRM criteria" isnt solid proof that they will not support or create an app for phones using the same/similar cpu (snapdragon). I dont see solid proof that they are not going to support the EVO, but at the same time I dont see them saying they will. Seems like its still a secret to me
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] p-slim:
With my reading comprehension this pretty much answers your question " the bad news is that existing smartphones -- even existing Snapdragon devices -- will not be able to utilize the app. Without new hardware, the Android version of the Netflix app simply won't function..."
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] xlGmanlx:
P-slim likes to be the bearer of bad news ;) just kidding... i know they had said last year that they were working on an android app and it would be out late 2010. i guess that outlook changed and its for new phones moving forward
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Beejis:
Looks like in order for us to see this on our devices we will need a hack. Kinda lame but I had a feeling this would happen. Goes with the fragmentation.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] nosympathy:
It isn't that they don't want to put an app out, their ceo said he would have had one out months and months ago, but unfortunately the companies they have contracts with won't let them unless they can garuntee DRM, which they haven't been able to do based on the way google wrote android.

Having a processor at the HW level that can do this, is fantastic, because we don't have to hope google changes the code of android enough to make it an OS that is DRM compatible.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] NonCorp:
Nail on the head my friend. Well said.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] sgt. slaughter:
well hopefully we can find a way to get around the hardware req that has the DRM built into it so we can use this on our Evo's. I assume knowing why we couldn't get it to work originally exactly is a step to doing that, and hope its not impossible.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jfortier16:
I imagine he got tired of the people treating each other like garbage to feed pride instead of using this forum for its intended purpose.

Perhaps I am confusing the dev with God.

I am about to try this out, I've been paying netflix and not renting anything for a while now. I wanted to say thank you to everyone who has shared their work to make it possible, sorry I got a little sidetracked..

Posted using XDA App
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] xHausx:
You guys realize the DRM will most likely need to be cracked in order to get this working right? By doing that right after it gets released (if it even is out yet?) all you will do is reinforce their thinking that android is not secure and either delay the release of an official app for us or make them reconsider it altogether.

Doesn't sound like the best thing to do... sometimes it's better to be patient
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] sgt. slaughter:
According to what i've been reading there will never be a release of an official app since the only reason its loaded on the phone it is now is b/c the newer chip has DRM built in it. I took it as something they couldn't add backwards to older models. seems like they will go the carrier handset specific route to ensure the security of it till every phone has the hardware needed. Hell wouldn't be a bad idea as they likely will get away with charging a nice fee for the app to be included to the handset makers and/or carriers.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] cheebahawk:
i've been keeping an eye on this thread since it was first posted here at XDA, and from all 18 pages it seems there are no Devs attached to this "project".

I think this thread is officially dead, since all of us are only raving and ranting on personal opinions (with exception of OP) on whether this is a good idea or bad, etc. But I think we all need to STFU and not post unless you are a Dev and currently working on porting this over to the Evo.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] p-slim:
Unless you're a dev, then you should follow you're own advice :) Netflix isn't coming to the evo unless you're hard of reading. Have a nice day
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] TMartin:
A working version for the Evo looks a little easier....Here's the title and link to the article.

LG Revolution dumps Tegra 2, chooses 1GHz Snapdragon MSM8655 instead
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] TMartin:
I beg to differ....

Netflix Coming to Android, Starting With Snapdragon
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Quis89:
To be more specific its an app requiring a paid subscription that isn't supported on our devices. To say its "just an app" kind of puts it in the same boat as a standard fart app. This is one that if fallen into the wrong hands, assuming the security of it isn't strong enough, could lead to lawsuits given the openness of the Android platform. There is a reason we don't have it yet. You aren't entitled to anything. Just because you pay for it doesn't mean you're entitled to using it on a platform that your subscription doesn't cover. To say you want this on your phone because "you pay for it" is idiotic.

Once your payments to netflix include mobile streaming on your Android device....then start *****ing. Until then....fall back and be patient.

Android users are worse than Apple iPhone users sometimes.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] p-slim:
I read that article, actually I posted the same information in here 2 weeks ago, this will not work on past devices, it requires a special snapdragon processor which isn't in the evo or even released to the market yet. Trust me I'm a long subscriber of Netflix and want this badly but its not coming to the evo or any currently released device, Netflix has made sure of that.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] TMartin:
I understand. I just don't think we should completely embrace the idea or completely shoot it down at the same idea. A snapdragon is a snapdragon and it's a lot easier to port something from the same chipset family. Personally if we have a fully functional Sense 2.0, which was designed for an update Snapdragon chipset, running on an Evo then that is a good sign Netflix "might" be able to be ported as well.

EDIT: A little food for thought....The LG Revolution will probably come with Netflix & a MSM8655. The MSM8655 is pretty much identical to the MSM8255 that comes in the Desire HD, Desire S, Incredible S, myTouch 4G, etc.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] sgt. slaughter:
this is incorrect unless your saying its impossible to be done. Someone here will get it done at some point if it is possible. Lets not debate if its good or bad b/c thats pointless, and there many other things that shouldn't be done that are done all the time. no one should come and try to say why its right or wrong and be hypocritical over it.

not saying you are btw p-slim. just in general to anyone saying we shouldn't put the effort into doing this.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] brokentoaster24:
bad news guys..

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/02/15/confirmed-netflix-app-available-exclusively-on-future-qualcomm-smartphones-starting-with-the-lg-revolution/

then again, we got hulu working so i still have faith :D:D
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] timothydonohue:
yeah, i wasn't quite positive that current devices couldn't support it, only that current devices don't have the libraries. there was some mention in one of the demo videos out that indicate that devices could be 'upgraded' (potentially read: flashed) in order to manage DRM. i didn't get the impression that it was actually a hardware issue, only that libraries were included in 'a cell' that isn't present on current devices. this could mean that DRM requires an MTDBLOCK all it's own. that shouldn't be that hard to implement.

we don't need to hack DRM, just put it on your device, just like flashing any other ROM. when it's available, i'd bet we have it.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jcalba89:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/16/lg-revolution-dumps-tegra-2-chooses-1ghz-snapdragon-msm8655-ins/
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] sgt. slaughter:
thanks but this was posted on the page before this one already
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] brokentoaster24:
well, here's an alternative (slightly expensive)

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/17/playon-app-for-android-2-2-and-above-means-netflix-hulu-for-all/
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] clamknuckle:
PlayOn requires you to be on a network with a PC for it to work. Not really an elegant solution. If I have my laptop in range of my phone, I'd rather watch netflix on my laptop.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] brokentoaster24:
better than nothing at this point :P and it says it can stream over 3g. you just need the server software running on your computer.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] millerd79:
You don't have to be near your computer for this to work, only for the initial setup. Then as long as your computer is on you can connect from anywhere and stream.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] :
just called netflix they said sometime in 2011 but there is no projected release date so maybe tomorrow or maybe christmas