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[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
This is the fastest tethering I've had for 5 months!!!

Here's a pic of what my online account has said for several months now. Every month is re-ups and says we qualified for these discounts on the 1st of that month. I wonder if they're stacking in their systems...haha. Call up and see that I have 5 on ever line. Lol.

(Sorry, just couldn't pass up the free Catify option) :D
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
My account just says "Premier" instead of Gold or Silver, and for about an hour last night it showed Gold. MAKE UP YOUR MINDS. All I know is I want my upgrade ASAP. I want the Nexus S.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Update:

Internet has been a little better today.

Ranging around 300k, nothing to jump around about but better than sub-56k.

Also, Sprint is sending me an Airave for my house.

Usually use wifi when at home but whatever, it's free. Can't complain about that plus it should boost my service in general.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
People have said they've had luck doing it over the phone.

This is true.
[EVO 4G General] fr0st420:
Omfg!!! I'm not getting 100mbit speeds over 3g!!! I'm leaving Sprint. They are ripping me off. I'm only getting these speeds!
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
uh huh......
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
For me, there are 4 different types of places:

1) Under 100 kbps ----> How it was in the beginning

2) Under 500 kbps ----> Most of the time lately

3) Under 700 kbps ----> Kind of rare

4) ~1+ Mbps ----> Super rare, but how it should be
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Pretty much. After that stint of about 30 minutes where I was getting crazy 3G speeds with sprint the other morning I havent been able to crack 200 kb/s since. No wimax at all. TB i'm averaging 1.7 MB/s and...well I wont even post the LTE speed.:D I was debating on what to do with the Sprint line I think im just going to give it to my sister.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Or you can just flatout sell your contract. There are sites that do it. All you have to do is get the other person on the line while you call Sprint to have it turned over to them. Then just give them your Evo with it. I tried out the TB in the Verizon store by my house. And on top of that my girlfriend has one -_-. F*cking 15 Mbps down on average. Crazy ****. Plus simultaneous voice and data over 3G.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Can't wait until the LTE users jump from 5 a state to regular usage.

Sick of the "OMGZZZ VERIZON IS SUPERIOR BECAUSE I'M ONE OF 5 PEOPLE IN MY AREA USING A NEW SERVICE"

Yeah, so was my Comcast, then everyone started using it, let's not talk about what happened then.

56K much?
[EVO 4G General] hvacmike:
I am from Bowling Green. My data speeds suck too. Early in the morning before 8 am data is good, but as the day goes on data slows to almost nothing. I have called sprint and they told me to take my phone to the repair center.

I have been down in Columbus Ga working at Fort Benning. In Columbus my data sucks at all hours, on base in the middle of nowhere I have decent data. I am about to start calling sprint every other day.

We pay good money to sprint for crappy data. Yeah its unlimited but it takes 2 days to watch a 5 minute clip on u tube.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
In Portland...where I'm staying it's 1700 down and 800 up, which is the best I've seen...earlier, however, it took 3 freaking minutes to recalculate my nav and I missed like every exit while it figured **** out because the data was soo slow right there...and the voice actions don't even work. I've given up on trying to use them here...it's Server Connection Problem 9/10 times!
[EVO 4G General] Android 17:
You know, my problem isn't the data speeds itself so much, it's the ping.

I used to be able to easily get about 1.2 Mbps download, with a ping of about or below 100, which was pretty good.

Now I get about 200-500 kbps download, and my ping is always hovering at about 200 or above.

It makes playing any sort of multiplayer game almost unbearable. Granted, there aren't a ton of games with competitive multiplayer as of now, but try playing a game like Galcon and you'lll see what I mean.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
You mean you hope. VZW has a ton more users here than Sprint and still has better coverage, more clear calls AND faster 3G speeds. So with almost 100 million people on the network why can I average 1.7 megs down on VZW yet on my Evo... I havent seen anything better than 400 kb/s since October?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
No I don't hope.

Simple networking knowledge dictates it.

Moreover Verizon has been tested to be one of the slowest 3g networks so not sure why you're stating that.
[EVO 4G General] :
I love how people continue to support Sprint with their horrible unusable data and call verizon data slow when I'm in Chicago, one of the most densely populated cities, and I easily get 1Mbps down on 3g. Of course LTE will eventually slow down, but I believe Verizon has the money to put into their network whereas Sprint definitely does not. For now in the areas I use my phone Verizon clearly wins, which is why I switched. I'm gonna finally stop monitoring this thread now because I'm sick of seeing hopeful people defending Sprint and claiming verizon is expensive and slow when it simply is not. In a few months or a year when the verizon LTE network gets closer to capacity and slows down, I'd still put it up against wimax any day... look, my LTE works indoors! look, my wimax works in the middle of an open field but dont go close to those trees because a birds nest or leaves on trees might block the signal (Sprint customer service claim). In my situation verizon is cheaper and faster, simple as that. Everyone should really try verizon, ATT, and Sprint in their area and see which is best for themselves instead of relying on nationwide speedtest results on some website that are obviously not representative of reality (I doubt any of them show Sprint at under 300kbps which is clearly the situation for many people).
[EVO 4G General] mikel719:
Its inconsistant but way better then the 30kbps down and 27kbps up I was getting in pueblo colorado.

I will keep testing through out the day to see if the speed goes back in the crapper again.
[EVO 4G General] sling:
Speeds are getting better at the homestead.

I'm going to test the heck out of hopefully it slows so Sprint will give me $30 credit due tomorrow :)

I had TuninRadio app running in background speeds not so bad.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I'm in Brooklyn, NY and only a few times since owning my Evo have I ever hit speeds that high. That's what it SHOULD be like.
[EVO 4G General] sling:
Right on I agree.

Well sprint defiantly worked towers in my area.

Ive been with them about 7 years only able to pull in,

Download(680kbps) Upload(375kbps).

For the last couple months it sank down to,

Download (120kbps) Upload(70kbps) until today so I'm pretty happy with whatever they did.

Only thing I need now is 4G it wont happen for a while though Virginia Beach is more then likelys last on list to get.
[EVO 4G General] sling:
Right now I'm in Lynhaven Mall Virginia Beach VA last 2 speed test not that great one upload was crippled yet to be expected.

I was in Radio shack lots of negatives that interfere with radio.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
This has not been my experience. Maybe some areas of chicago have better coverage/backhaul/tower capacity than others. I'm lucky to break 300 kbps during evening hours.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Anyone else get promoted/demoted to Gold or Silver yet? For about an hour, 2 days ago it said I was Gold (even though I don't qualify, according to them) and now I'm back down to just "Premier".
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
mine has changed from saying gold to just premier but my upgrade date hasnt changed, on any of my lines. I do qualify for gold.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
I think it was just a huge April Fools joke that they didn't pull off very well!
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
They sent out letters and everything though. I HOPE it's an April Fool's joke. Because their explanation is bull****, that the most wanted perk was the bi-annual plan check up, and not the yearly upgrade. ****ing please, everybody knows the yearly upgrade is ALL its ever been about. And you know what, it makes sense because on average, you finish paying back the cost of the phone 12-14 months in, depending on your bill. The only company I know that will give you a lower rate for bringing your own phone is T-Mobile, and if Sprint's not going to do that, they should give us yearly upgrades.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
If so, it'd be the most costly, worst executed AFools joke ever. But hey, a lot of people don't know what the **** their plan is or if they could move to another plan to stop going over their minutes. I meet people all the time and pay 50 a month for extra minutes, instead of changing plans. Are lot of people are dumb and have no motivation.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
**** id be happy with them speeds
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
The only family plan that qualifies for Premier Gold is the 3000 minute plan. Why would you pay for 3000 minutes when mobile to mobile on any network is free and most people spend their minutes calling mobile phones? It's ridiculous!

Do the math:

Evo - $449.99 (retail)

Let's say it's an individual plan, $79.99 before taxes ($69.99 + $10 Premium Data):

We paid $199 for the phone, so that leaves about $249.99 that we owe them.

Let's say that $20 from our bill goes towards paying back the phone cost to Sprint.

$250/$20 = 12.5 months to pay back the phone.

They don't lower the bill after we're done paying back the cost of the phone. They OWE us upgrades every year.
[EVO 4G General] ScrapSilicon:
the evo 4g is now @ $119.xx on amazon wireless on a new individual contract ...still shows as $199.xx on sprint with new individual contract ...lol my $150 off upgrade went to 12-01-2011 shows now as only $75 off on a new 2 yr re-up ..guess I'm Silver @ 9yrs w/Sprint/Nextel ..blah
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
No, I'm talking about what Sprint buys the phone from HTC for. If you go to the Sprint website and look at the Evo, the retail (as in full) price is $449.99. They sell it to us for a discount as long as we sign a contract, and then they make back the difference over time, usually from 12-14 months.
[EVO 4G General] akrod2as:
And I guarantee they're not paying $450 wholesale.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Yeah definitely less, because you can buy the phone outright, and they'd still make a profit. They get it for at LEAST $100 less than that. ie If they sell it to us for $450, they're probably buying them from HTC for $300-$350. And that's ok, but what I want is for my bill to go down or for my yearly upgrade that I deserve (all of us). And I think that would bring in a lot of new business, if they did things that way. Look at US Cellular. They're a small regional carrier that doesn't operate over here in NY, but I love the way they do business. Tons of BOGOs, you can walk into any US Cellular store with a dead battery and they'll swap for free. And best of all, get this: You go through on contract with them, and after that you get upgrade prices from then on without having the sign a contract.

Oh and Boost Mobile now is advertising that they shrink your bill over time, and what's more ironic is that they're Sprint. And on top of that, you're buying the phone outright from them, so they have no reason to charge you higher in the first place. In other words, it's like when shopping outlets higher prices above normal and then lower the price back to normal and call it a "sale".
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
so i just talked to a lady from sprint and was told they have requested a 2nd tower to be added to my are ... here is the real kick in the sack . no guarantee the tower will be added . AND no eta when the tower that is here will be fixed or upgraded !

and i was told they would give me a 1 time credit of 25.00 and that woudl be all they can do !

NO i'm just a little pissed because if the 2nd tower is not added and who's to say the tower here is not fixed for a long time ... IM PAYING for the data and extra 10 on 4 phones and extra 40 a month !

im not going to continue to pay that for sub 56k speeds .. how can they tell me that's ALL they can do for me a 1 time credit ?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
That's when you speak to an account manager.

I have personally had my bill reduced in half and have been sent an Airave because of this issue.

It's all SHE can do and that's what SHE should have said because Sprint has reduced the amount of discount a lonely service representative can do without manager approval.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
im getting a phone call monday from the lady i have been talking to in CEO's office /team .

i dont need a airrave since im on my network will at home . but something has to be done. or ill drop them pay 5 a month till its paid and move on i DON't want to do that since i have a pretty good plan but i refuse to pay for something i can't fully use
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
That whole "we'll put up a second tower just for you" thing is bull****. Do you know what they have to go through to put one tower up? I'm talking your city's regulations and ****. They're not going through all that trouble for one person.

I'm just pissed because there is an obvious problem and we're being told "we can't find a problem...but we'll keep looking" from the techs and "Can I call you back next week?" from the people at Dan Hesse's office. You know what? No, it's not ok if you call me next week. Because this is going to over the 10th time you've called me and told me you don't know what's wrong and I don't have time to deal with this ****. I never said I'm leaving Sprint and I've never been offered anything. **** credits, give everyone on my account a free upgrade. I'm a student and I don't have time to schedule phone calls when I have tests and papers coming at me every 5 minutes of my life.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
yea i was a little speechless when they told me that i check my account and they removed 27.35 but that's not enough like i said im not going to keep paying for something that i can't fully use !
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
But didnt you hear? Its ok because they're upgrading the towers.:rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Dont you have anything better to do with your life than come on here and bad mouth Sprint?

Leave if you don't like it.

I haven't seen one post from you in the past three months that hasn't been anti-sprint.

Worried about the etf?

Give me your account information I will call and get it waived for you.

Seriously.

Just go.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I never believed that **** from the beginning. In fact, go back a page or two, I pointed out the photoshopped picture they put up of the "work they're doing". Not once has anyone I've spoken to even tried to LIE and tell me they're upgrading towers. I just hate this because it's my dad who pays the bills and he's not about to leave Sprint, even if they waive our ETFs. We came from AT&T with no texting and no data and it was expensive as hell. Before that, T-Mobile and we had like no coverage in our house. And he has Verizon for his work phone (Storm 2) but he's lucky his company pays for it because it's expensive as hell.

So basically, nowhere to go. I've gotten so used to slow data that I swear to God I wouldn't even mind if someone tossed me a Blackberry right now and said "use this". My Evo is not an Evo. I've gotten so used to not using 90% of its features that I wonder why I even have it, besides the fact that I love Android and I love flashing things.

I like Sprint themselves, it's just that they need to start actually doing something about this problem.

If it was just me, I'd jump to Verizon. But there are 4 lines on the account and I'm the only one with a phone worth selling (the rest are ****ty Samsung Intercepts), so it would still cost us to buy new phones, not to mention Verizon's ridiculous pricing.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Come to Ann Arbor Michigan if you don't believe they're doing anything about the problem.

Next time I'm there ill post a screen shot.

Their speeds were just like ours up until a few weeks ago.

This idea that Sprint is just sitting on their hands is just about the most ridiculous thing I've heard.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Well what am I supposed to believe when the techs themselves tell me they have no idea what's causing the issue, and also that there is probably no issue at all? I've been going through this since January. 4 months. That's 1/6 of my contract with useless data speeds.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
With any due respect to these "technicians" did you see the video of the Sprint girl that was showing off the Evo 3D and didn't even know what phone resolution was?

I mean, that lady's job was to do that for godsake.

When it comes to reps for ANY carrier, 99/100 if you can root your device you know more about phones and technology than ANY Rep for ANY carrier.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Two things:

A) I was speaking to Ticket Support techs who sounded like they actually knew what they were talking about. I actually had a nice discussion about various cellular technologies with one of them.

B) If that's the case, then there's no hope that these towers will get fixed.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I disagree.

The people you speak to aren't the people that actually work on the network.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
The people from NOC are the ones that actually know exactly what's going on and what the true status of any given tower is. They are the folks that work in the field and network operations.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
So doesn't ticket support act as the middleman between NOC and the customer?
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
I told the girl thats been calling me from Dans office to not call me back anymore that im done with the bs. I told her that im really interested in buying the HTC tablet and a new evo 3d when they come out so they have until there released to get the speeds fixed or at least show me some commitment to getting them fixed otherwise im leaving for another carrier.

I told her the techs are free to call anytime to help them get the issues confirmed or whatever they need but as far as she is concerned i dont need to talk to her anymore with her thanks for being patient with us and ill check back next week bs.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I'm going to do the same. I'm pissed as hell. It shouldn't take 2-3 months to find a problem. Even a tech told me that this has been going on longer than it should have. Every time the guy calls me I just get more upset because I already know he's going to tell me he has no clue what's going on. And what makes me madder is that when I emailed him back after one of our phone calls I clearly said that one of the reasons I'm upset is because no one has offered me anything at all. At the bare minimum he should have offered to credit the account. But no, he totally sidestepped it in his email response and phone calls. Never mentioned it once. We're doing their jobs for them, basically. If nobody reported these issues, they wouldn't even know and people would leave because they'd associate the slow data with the company image.
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
yup, its really been drawn out for too long imo. i started calling customer service back in october when the speeds for me 1st started dropping and really i have seen 0 improvement since its only gotten worse.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Can't disagree with that.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Wow. I take back what I said about Verizon before; **** them. They're going after people who rooted:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=12617248#post12617248
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
I understand they don't want people tethering.. but that is NOT cool. I have rooted my phone, and not used tether once.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Well technically, you're paying for data, so it really doesn't matter how it's used. Especially in AT&T's case where it's capped. They should allow you to tether, but give you a cap for tethering, included with your unlimited data plan (because PCs use up data faster than phones, obviously).
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
If its not capped though... its meant for your phone. Unlimited to do what you want on your phone, not to replace your home internet. If its capped... you should be able to do what you want.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
No I understand. I'm saying that when you buy an unlimited plan, they should say, "ok, with this unlimited data plan [for your phone], you get 1GB of tethering for your laptop/PC". Then you pay if you want more.
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
If that Verizon BS is true then screw them. I was nio thinking of switching at all but for those that have or are thinking of it, would it be worth it now?

Pocket posted...
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
Most likely.

As an example, some years back, I was having issues with the upload component of my cable internet. It was very sporadic, unstable, etc. For months, I went around in circles with regular tech support, achieving absolutely nothing. Eventually I discovered dslreports. Fortunately, some members of NOC were active members on there, and were going out of their way to help people with weird and unusual problems.

Eventually, after much testing, it was determined that my upload issues were due to noise somewhere on the line. He had adjusted my modulation scheme to one with more overhead, but also more resilient to noise. It was a semi permanent solution as it took local care over a year to fully resolve the problem. Had it not been for this one employee, I would of jumped ship to another provider.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I think you're a little too eager to argue with me and aren't reading my posts.

I would define "easy" as a simple step by step process that, if you're capable of following to root your phone, you can do without too much issue.

As far as the proven cases...when did I say there weren't?

I understand that there are.

What I'm suggesting is that they aren't aware of the easy way to do this and the fact that people are doing this on purpose in order to get out of the contract without paying the ETF.

What I'm saying is, if they realized the reasoning behind people doing it, they would stop it quickly.

But they don't so they haven't.

There's no way that they would willingly and knowingly allow people to violate the terms of service and then get out without paying the ETF.

Because that's loss of funds on three accounts:

A) As you guys have said, Verizon charges them for the overage

B) They don't get the ETF

C) They lose out on the rest of the money they were going to get if you were in contract.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
They can't prove you did it willingly and knowingly.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I doubt that's true as well.

I wouldn't imagine it too hard to see if someone is not using a Sprint PRL on their network.

What's more likely is that this hasn't been an issue so it hasn't become a big deal for them but it will as the mobile market continues to evolve to where abuses like this are easier to do and more common.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
You can't check the PRL without physically having the phone in your hand. The data that is transmitted is the MEID/ESN and phone number and maybe some other stuff. PRL information is purely on the phone itself.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Do you have proof of that?

Plus, they could determine abuse based upon location versus roaming.

If you live in a major city and are roaming 2 GB a month, obviously you're abusing the roaming system since "roam-only" is not a standard function on your Sprint phone.

I'm sure there are ways for them to tell abuse is going on, whether the PRL is able to be determined specifically or not.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I live in NYC. I don't get Sprint signal inside my house. Let's say I'm cheap and I don't use wifi. What do you say to that?