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[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
I get my Defy back from Vodafone,

Now i start with porting the Sense to the Finnland Rom!
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
man there is an official froyo around, lets work on it
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
Which one do you mean?
[Defy Android Development] amansth:
the korean one.

no, unless everybody's fine with 80 characters in sms/ mms.

theres also the fact that you cant flash this rom unless your device is downgradable or hasnt been upgraded to froyo yet.

cheers
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
I also heard about these issues in the Korean one,

So i took the Finnland Rom

What is not ok at the Finnland Rom?
[Defy Android Development] viper.:
We dont need another asian rom for european defy ... Finland rom is just fine.
[Defy Android Development] Jojo1992:
*YES*

That was my opinion
[Defy Android Development] JackSparrow17:
Sense Legacy 0.2 is best and nice to use....
[Defy Android Development] Blackcorsa:
Any News for this Rom ?

What is better for Defy MB525: Sense Legacy 0.2 or this 0.1 Rom ?

I want need my Cam etc.

Thanks
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
Legacy 0.2 is a newer version of DefyFroyoSense and thats why its called "0.2" so u better use it.

I dont have any news at the moment, im not working on it and im not running it, im running LiquidArc by JBoogie. It gaves me more than 48hours of use without charging, its the best full finished ROM in my opinion.
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
im started to test this rom, sincerly i dislike the SENSE interface...but not this is problem,

people tried only with Froyo China?

I'm disassembling the cee edition, which I believe is the most stable, do some testing, and then see what happens!:P
[Defy Android Development] psicodelico:
Keep working in that!! :D. Yeah, just tried on chinese froyo.
[Defy Android Development] carlonchete:
What is the reason this Rom can start only with Chinese boot, just to take a look and try to port it to another version. I ve seen that the system apps and framework aren't deodexed, is that important? isn't better work with deodexed apps and frameworks?
[Defy Android Development] psicodelico:
The reason is that when this ROM was made just the chinese froyo has been released. About deodexed..i dont know.
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
im almost sure that deodexed is better. but im not a dev... all the devs make deodexed roms . thats why im telling that deodexed is better.
[Defy Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
odex will, memory wise, be better.. but for modding deodex'ing is much easier for those that cannot fix odex'd roms.. but i prefer to keep original and modify odex'd.. on milestone only odex'd loaded acceptable..loading time also better :-)

do note, i modified the odex rom graphics as htc is 480x800 and you got 480x850 so new mods might have incorrect clock widgets and social apps, if not changed.

i think the optimization of odex'd is better than those of a smali edition.
[Defy Android Development] powertony84:
Everyone can port sense over another froyo rom?
[Defy Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
for an easy "port" to the new finland rom, here is a suggested way forward.

- dump the rom v0.1 + fix to enable the calls

- compare the rom with original chinese rom.. copy files that are different to a new location.

- dump the new finland rom

- copy the extracted files to the finland rom.

- if kernel is different the wifi module of course needs to be fixed, as it cannot load in the new kernel, but just do a diff on the chinese wifi module and the one i did, and you can see i changed name to bcm4329 and interface name is now "eth0" and not "wlan0".

- you will still need to use the same hijacks to start sense, but that should probably still work just as good on it.

- if you use a newer htc sense release, remember graphics will not match 800x480 anymore..

Hope it helps.. should not be hard to do, but i will not start trying as long as its impossible for me to verify easily. and i dont have much room for more modding anyways, and remote modding by having others testing takes even more.. sorry!
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
thank you very much for the support on this, Dex. Im sure that your instructions will be helpful for us.
[Defy Android Development] kadofl:
Can't wait to test it on my Defy. Unfortunately i'm currently on 3.4.3-11 and I really need Google Navigation. So, no testing for exited me :(

I'll surely stay tuned ;)
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
this rom is like a dream for everyone of us, we are almost 3 months waiting for a release that really works, but i think there´s no one working on it right now. I got no time to learn the needing to port it, if so i´ll try to port it myself. But we really need a true developer on this project, i asked a few guys but no luck. Hope that someone fells like helping us and we can have Sense on our Motorola devices.
[Defy Android Development] gomdon:
continue waiting
[Defy Android Development] craquoos:
I saw the bootstrap with 2nd init which launch cm7 . Can we try to use this for the sense ROM ?

sorry for bad english.

a+ .
[Defy Android Development] edition-:
It didn't launched cm7, fake screenshots...
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
hey edition, are you working on this project? i saw a few days before that you were trying some stuff on this. any news?
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
hi dexter, good job!

a simple question, what tool you did use for dump the china rom? ;)

thx! i try with motodepacker and sbf recalc.....
[Defy Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
SBF-Recalc , it can split your sbf files into the partitions, and then you find the one which is the filesystem and extract/dump it..(use unyaffs for this)

i did not repack filesystem, but uses only nandroid to create the filesystems when its jffs or yaffs based.. then its easier to do backup this way for distribution when no regular "update.zip" is in place.

but of course a update.zip based solution to extract and set perms is the right forward way to do it today.
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
now that we have all this explanation from the builder of the project, and we have 2nd init bootmenu, who do i have to kill to have this ported to another Froyo release??
[Defy Android Development] rrhg:
Hi all,

I'm in 3.4.3_11 uk rom. I'm new user on defy. Is it possible to flash directly chinesse sbf with rsd on my uk rom ?
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
Here are the instructions> restore the sense nandroid. wipe everything and after that just flash the chinese bootonly.sbf. Dont flash full chinese .sbf or you will brick the phone.
[Defy Android Development] racca:
no you can't
[Defy Android Development] rrhg:
Thanks,

I'll try it tonight. I'm office now.
[Defy Android Development] rrhg:
But where can i find chinesse SBF BOOT ONLY. The link in the first page look like for complete sbf.
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
HERE is it! :D
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
hello dexter,

just a curiosity, 'cause you left the applications in system/app and framework with the ODEX files? if you deodex all, before to try the rom, not is so much light and fast? or im wrong?

thx
[Defy Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
@iaio72

correct, i think it will destroy its speedy , although its not super fast, it will be slower and unstable, i think.. maybe i was just unlucky during my deodexing..
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
oh what a lucky morning, just came here and seems like emiliano is working on this... thank God we have iaio.
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
My Defy should arrive tomorrow. Im not new to Android but this is my first Moto device. If i get the thing rooted and with a custom froyo rom on...how do i apply this if i decide to try it?

Usually it's just flash a .zip file in recovery but seems so much more complicated with Defy and locked bootloaders etc. :)
[Defy Android Development] de_annere:
@ephumuris:

I would try another ROM first. This here is something special and can ruin your phone in it's current state.

@iaio72

Are you really working at this? Thats great news :)
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
Nah I want to try it. I rom hop a lot. Not scared of diving in at all :-)
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
yes im start to work at this project about a week...for me its something new! ;)

usually its very easy to modded sustem/app or framework, or other to system about the rom, but there have to work with kernel, boot, file in sbf, convert and other things that for me its a new world!

but i promise at lovers about this rom that i try to modify in good, and i do....

usually one excellent developer as Dexter, working very fast at this kind of modding, and i started to try, to read some guide, to ask , to learn.....so be patient! :D

but I'm trying and I hope to do something good for this project!

actually im tryng to work on porting to cee deblur rom instead of china rom!
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
Iaio my lord, our salvator, we are in your hands.Thankiew!
[Defy Android Development] craquoos:
We are sure that the bootstrap work really now :) And the new HTC ROM with Sense 3D is out. So is it possible to work with the both ?

How can we make this ?
[Defy Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
if you looked at the desireHD port, which has 800x480, graphics are stilled messed up in that port.. i would wait until someone port the graphics to a 800x480 and then use it.. for now its a mess, really not useable, but nice to see, but as pictures show, graphics goes outside right of screen as sense3.0 has a larger display and graphics are native that resolution now (i think).

in 2.x they still used scalable graphics, with 480x320 images..
[Defy Android Development] gomdon:
but the defy is 854*480
[Defy Android Development] carlonchete:
I think try everything work on this great rom is first, sense 2. 0 first. Great ROM, but some problems with wifi some times and camcorder, camcorder doesnt work for me even with other camcorder software.
[Defy Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
sense 3.0 is 960x540 .. will not fit even if you got a higher screen, still about 100pix x 60pix missing :-(
[Defy Android Development] gomdon:
thanks and waiting
[Defy Android Development] IE-coRe:
But Sense 3.0 is already ported to Desire HD and HD2. They are 800x480pix devices!
[Defy Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
if you check the posts, its actually not ported, but only a raw edition with graphics going outside the desktop etc.. who want to use it on a daily basis where you hardly can see if its 12:01 or 12:09 :-) not worth spending time on for now.. not for the hardcore guys, only for graphics modders for now...
[Defy Android Development] Antszej:
Guys, is porting sense roms so hard? We already have froyo, so no need for libraries (opengles, calls, camera) and changing framework, resizing some graphics...

Also we dont have to change kernels right?

Sent from Barebones-Defy using tapatalk.
[Defy Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
- you dont need kernel, but!

- libraries for sense are not the same, they have different functions to support sense, so yes its android sdk, but with additional functions, so no way around using htc libs.

- then comes the changes to support 854x480, changing framework functions in smali.

- and what about wifi, bt, gps and sensors, also different... i got around wifi and sensors but bluetooth was a pain in the a..

so not easy at all, but its learning phase and it becomes easy..
[Defy Android Development] Antszej:
It was a little bit easier on htc g1/mt3g ;)

Sent from Barebones-Defy using tapatalk.
[Defy Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
keyword is "htc" in your sentence :)
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
my personal works on this porting at this moment

deodex apps and framework (easy....:D)

open cee deblur and start to reworked on this rom, and i try to extract some parts to port on sense rom!

for now!:P
[Defy Android Development] carlonchete:
great news!!!!
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
hi dexter!

ive a question!

how to added new language in the defyfroyosense?

thx
[Defy Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
sorry , i dont know..

normaly sense offers like 20+ language, so not much need for it..
[Defy Android Development] peetr_:
It's quite simple, but you need to have those xml's translated, for example from another rom. You have to decompile all apk's in the ROM and add all the folders with values.xml and other xml's and name it with the right language code. Just look which folders are included for other languages.
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
ok today i flash my first "experiment" was total insuccess! installation was good, at reboot Force Close!!

to be continued my personal experiment!! :D
[Defy Android Development] snoopcool:
yeah yeah , we wait man ^^
[Defy Android Development] rrhg:
All,

Can i just restore the rom without flashing chinesse boot only sbf , with 2ndinit. I'm on 3.4.3-11 uk sbf.
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
Never tried this way before, just cos the 2nd init way is new for me, im at Cyanogen rite now, i will come back to Sense only if it gets ported by iaio, otherwise i will keep cyanogen.
[Defy Android Development] gomdon:
using cm7 and waitting sense
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
Can anyone upload a nandroid of stock chinese rom that this is based on? I want to try porting to a better froyo release.

Sent from my Defy on CM7.
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
i will make you a nandroid of first china froyo witch this rom is based. wait until tomorrow ... i will flash cm7 beta3 but before i do it, i will flash china.sbf and build you a nand.
[Defy Android Development] edition-:
I searched for a bit, i think this is the right one: http://www.multiupload.com/C9HE2419WD
[Defy Android Development] edition-:
double post
[Defy Android Development] JackSparrow17:
Any update in this ROM? And what is not working in this ROM?:)
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
cheers, to my friend from lisboa.
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
ehy guy pls have patience! ;)

im worked at this porting, when i have some news i write here! always, if i have cooperation about other dev, probably the work its so faster, but for now im only that worked ! ...i think!
[Defy Android Development] JackSparrow17:
Sorry i was just asking......Best of Luck for this project....

Sorry Again:o
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
quiet, I haven't answer with malice! :P
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
That looks perfect, build.prop has the correct build number. Thanks.
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
Tried to do this but i couldn't get it to boot when porting over to Nordic rom. I guess i messed something up somewhere? :(
[Defy Android Development] IE-coRe:
Hi

I am not i developer, so i dont now how or even it is able. My Idea is to port Desire S Rom (Ginger sense) to CM7 or somehow else with 2nd ini...

Wouldnt that be great?
[Defy Android Development] Antszej:
I think that there is no chance to make it. AOSP/CM7 are little bit different than Sense.

Sent from CM7-Defy using tapatalk.
[Defy Android Development] IE-coRe:
Yes but it was ported to Blur China ROM. Thats also different.
[Defy Android Development] Antszej:
But not gingerbread, just froyo... its easier on the same system version

Sent from CM7-Defy using tapatalk.
[Defy Android Development] danny-k:
Hello, First I wanna say really great work!

2 questions:

1. Is there a way to make the FM Radio work? (I don't see it in the first post at the "Doesn't work" section

2. How about the included facebook app on HTC? The one on the market doesn't sync the calendar with the birthdays and the photos of contacts from facebook are low quality.

Ty Danny
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
Followed dexters instructions and doesn't boot with Nordic files...i didin't even get past the first Motorola Screen!
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
i think theres something related to the boot.sbf

cos when you flash china bootonly.sbf , any ROM will start, i already had Sense on TMO 3.4.2-155 and Finland Deblur.
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
Doesn't chinese sbf break flashlight though?

Sent from my Defy on CM7.
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
the full chinese.sbf can damage your flashlight, as i did on mine. but i was talking about the chinese-bootonly.sbf, witch is only the bootloader from chinese.sbf. you can find it here in this thread somewhere. if you dont have it, pm me and i can send you.

if you flash any Froyo release, restore Sense, and flash the chinese-bootonly.sbf, the system will start.. But the idea of porting is to avoid this necessary chinese bootonly.
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
Hmm I never knew that. What is the issue with the chinese bootloader then? If it can even be based on a newer rom?

I'll try to find the chinese boot only file and test my last update I made. Maybe it does actually work.

Sent from my Defy on CM7.
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
If you flash the chinese bootloader.sbf, the rom may keep some chinese bugs like the most famous, damage flashlight (mine is gone). Some other major bugs like low wi-fi reception, no working GPS and some others related to the chinese Froyo release, i mean the first Froyo that had leaked from Motorola. If we keep the boot.sbf from Chinese, the port to other Froyo wont be complete. The porting by Dexter started in the earlier days of Froyo on Defy. Thats why we claim for a port from Chinese Froyo to any latest Froyo deblur release.
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
Hmm I wonder if anyone has tried with the Korean release? That one seemed pretty complete and bug free to me.

Or is it really only the chinese one that works for definit?

Sent from my Defy on CM7.

Nevermind, bootloader/fixed sbf two totally different things...
[Defy Android Development] CipryK:
Alarm clock doesn't work. It doesn't ring when the time comes.

I see there is a delay between the HTC widget clock and the status bar clock.

Cipry
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
Any news on the port?
[Defy Android Development] javi422:
Yes all true I tried that with my second defy and only the boot sbf. Messed up my flash light my suggestion wait for a better release or look at the themed rom here (I forgot the name of the rom & dev) until a better release

Sent from my Life Proof Defy on CM7
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
at this moment, its all at first step, i try a second flash but was unsuccesful, i think that wrong something in driver or boot!

I will send a message to dexter asking a little help to the point where im stopped!
[Defy Android Development] edition-:
I think it is too soon for it, but damn sense looks amazing on defy!!!

Going to make a video for you guys :)
[Defy Android Development] 008325:
mine got only 1.9K @ 1Ghz
[Defy Android Development] edition-:
I came directly from 2.51 and camera isn't working, going to try the camera fix.
[Defy Android Development] bihariel:
hey if you remove the superuser app from system and install the one one market it work without FC´s
[Defy Android Development] edition-:
Just got 2020 quadrant without overclock :)
[Defy Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
remember post #1 , if you tried HTC Camera, its default black until you disable widescreen in settings.. try Googlecamera?
[Defy Android Development] edition-:
I was just going to flash the fix, let me try it again.

Edit: Just tried with all camera apps and without widescreen, just black :|

Going to try the fix
[Defy Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
can you please try this recovery.apk attached?, its the DEFY recovery, but without any files installed, so only "boot recovery" should work..

here it crashes when doing the "su".. so if it works, i need to figure out why a market superuser works :-)

but it was originally planned to use the modified recovery.apk to boot into recovery, but it failed, so i made the "touch files" solution on sdcard for now..
[Defy Android Development] Perilla_:
Superuser from market too FC, looks like that only works good when it's opened.
[Defy Android Development] edition-:
Any news about superuser ?
[Defy Android Development] bihariel:
yes for me too.
[Defy Android Development] edition-:
The phone just went nuts when i tried to make a phone call :X,

No dial tone, and then when i tried to turn it off it just didn't got off "call mode"

Edit: It is really a bug, just did the same after reboot :X

Really liked it but i guess is still too fresh, and i really need to make a phone call! flashing back to 2.51 :|
[Defy Android Development] lilaznfoo21:
best rom ever!!
[Defy Android Development] Perilla_:
We have a phone and.. we don't test calls :D

That's right, no dial tone and stuck.
[Defy Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
i think i messed up basebands, sinced i tested early on :-( , i was working hard on getting mobiledata to work..

ill check up on it..

update:

just maybe i just tested incoming calls :-( (which works)
[Defy Android Development] edition-:
LOL, i guess i should be happy i'm not the only one with the bug, how do you guys didn't noticed earlier? xD

Anyway, with a superuser and phone call fix it should be fine :)
[Defy Android Development] Perilla_:
Don't worry, it's easy to understand, because all us noticed it only when one tryed a call.

You are doing a great work. Thanks you very much.
[Defy Android Development] lilaznfoo21:
can anyone help me fix mileston overclock? force close :(
[Defy Android Development] edition-:
It has to do with superuser, i guess the guys will find a fix for us in no time :)
[Defy Android Development] HiDef:
Quick question guys, should i do a data/cache wipe also after restoring the nandroid (i did a full wipe before the restore)? Thanks.
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
Thats good news thanks iaio
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
I really want this working. Not sure what is preventing boot with nordic files. Adb not even working to find out!

Sent from my Defy on CM7.
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
What is the purpose of the ramdisk.tar? Does that have a special job to do here?
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
i dont know but maybe iaio can help you man
[Defy Android Development] mainbord:
http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=186078

It IS continued
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
DOES IT? oh man, never thought that could be possible, now all my problems are gone, you really saved my life
[Defy Android Development] carlonchete:
It is not continued,last update was on 25-02 and nobody is working in that forum on this rom.Bihariel moded this rom and made some changes,the result sense legacy rom,but we dont have any news from him.
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
this is a conversation between me and bihariel:

Re: Sense on defy

Originally Posted by fabianowerner

Hey bihariel, any chance on have you working on sense legacy for defy?

no man, i not an advanced developer so i can not get the left bugs fixed.
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
hi Fabiano, just a question, this porting legacy from bihariel, works? or its buggs rom?

if work its good for my work, on original defyfroyosense from dexter!
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
Pretty sure its just a modified version of dexters work.

Sent from my Defy on CM7.
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
it is the same rom but only with some visual changes. the chinese bootonly is still needed to make this rom boot.
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
yes you'll right! my first test was aborted, for this problem, not works with deodexed app and framework, i re-put app and odex file and works! :o
[Defy Android Development] iaio72:
hi dexter only 2 questions!! :D

where do you told: "compare the rom with original chinese rom.. copy files that are different to a new location".. in with way, you compare chinese rom files to (for example) nordic rom files?

and " copy the extracted files to the NORDIC rom" correctly, as I figure out what files are being copied and which not?

thx so much!
[Defy Android Development] ephumuris:
Winmerge is your friend here. Here its what I tried.

Compare both releases with winmerge and delete all identical files leaving only different files.

Merge these files with nordic rom.

However it does not boot :-(

Sent from my Defy on CM7.