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[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
Yeah, we have Cricket here (might as well be in best with Metro/almost the same company). $50ish a month for unlimited everything, though I think they actually have a pretty good network here with okay speeds...probably like 600k, which is 50% better than Sprint's!

I actually want to do that Walmart Straight Talk hack with the Nokia SIM card and iPhone 4 for $45 a month, but I don't want $500 tied up in phones (Have to keep the Nokia + iPhone 4 is $300ish)...and I can't really leave my mom and her friend hanging, because then their plan split 50/50 would go from $50 each a month to like $70. ;(

Was reading in another thread where people have used their airave upgrade $150 discount on some 3rd party sites...thinking about doing that on our airave line, since it, and the 3 evo lines all have those $150 discounts on them....still. 1 new evo now/contract reup for 2 years, then 3 Evo 3Ds/Nexus Ses in a couple of months with the 3 lines and another 2 year contract reup...a lot of stuff could go wrong, though. ;(
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Can you use the Airave upgrade on any other line without creating a new line? I want the Airave to stay as it is but use the upgrade that shows for it on my line.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
That's a good question.

But remember you can use upgrades across lines too.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
If you're saying that, for example, I can use the upgrade on Line 2 on Line 1, then the answer is most likely yes, as long as you find a shall we say "friendlier" rep on the line. The only reason the Airave has a phone number is because every device in the system requires a phone number associated with it, whether or not it uses it. I don't see why a rep would argue against an upgrade when it doesn't affect them.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
From what I was reading in some other threads, they got 3rd party companies, like wirefly and non-corp Sprint stores. Basically, what I think would go down, is the same thing as when people switch primary lines to get the upgrade on a different line, then switch them back online when they get home.

So, upgrade the number assoc. with the airave (Amazon wireless says it qualifys for an upgrade - on my airave line), so then your contact would start over at 2 years and there would be a phone/evo assoc. with the airave line + the $10 smartphone data fee, then, go to sprint.com and switch the IMEI numbers back so the airave is back on that number (which should drop the $10 datafee), then assoc. the new phone with the line you want.

That's how I'd do it, then I'd use the other 3 $150 discounts on the 3 phone lines when the EVO 3D comes out, which would start the 2 year contract over again, if what I've read is correct - your contract starts over each upgrade, never adds to the current contract.

Make sense?
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
People keep saying that its not justification for their pricing... but at the same time you want Sprint to be able to do what Verizon can do for cheaper. It's just not possible. And that should be apparent with the way Sprints network has gone to **** just with the addition of two phones to their network. Just remember all of these towers that Sprint is "upgrading" they dont even own anymore.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
It makes sense but does the airave plan stay free? Because right now I don't get charged for it.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
1) Ok, there may be problems NOW, but in general, you ARE able to filter by phone number. I've done it myself before.

2) The Airave has a GPS receiver, not a transmitter. It may be giving the wrong reading when you're not using GPS on your phone, but if you turn on GPS on your phone, it shouldn't affect you.
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
Well it may not have a transmitter, but when mine was on, both of my sprint phones would get a false gps reading. When its off, and before i got the airave, my gps was just fine in my house.
[EVO 4G General] chandlerw88:
a couple questions about the Verizon prl hack. Can we flash the file using cm7 or do we have to use a sense rom. Also if I do get the termination does it cancel all lines on the account or just the line that had the extreme roaming.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Sense, but it will stick until you undo it regardless of what ROM you're on. The reason is because only Sense ROMs have EPST.
[EVO 4G General] chandlerw88:
Gotcha that make sense. Thanks for the quick reply. By any chance do you know of my cancellation question
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I'm really not sure but I have a feeling it's the account. PM the guy a few pages back that had his cancelled. He'll tell you.
[EVO 4G General] chandlerw88:
Appreciate it
[EVO 4G General] frontay:
Thanks for all the info on the Airave guys
[EVO 4G General] david914:
only 800 haha, even when I'm connected to my airave, im getting a 999ms ping... yes that is pathetic. with 25kpbs/50kbps
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Spoke to an awesome tech last night. Unfortunately the first tech was an asshole who cancelled my ticket after he put it in. This other tech told me there's an outrage on my campus. But that doesn't really explain why I get anywhere from 50-600 kbps (mostly around 200 kbps) everywhere I go. This is NYC. Data should he around 1 Mb down. Obviously this is a nationwide issue because I've seen other threads mentioning it.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
You must have the old one.

I have the 3g one and get about 2 mb up and .9 mb down.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
Gahh, I've had it with ****, I mean Sprint!

Everyday their service (s) get worth. As of late, I don't get calls, VMs come hours to days later, random missed calls, texting barely works anymore, and data just keeps getting worse and worse.

I'm lucky to get 200 down, but almost always have 1mbps up; 4G is a joke, since it barely works, even if I have perfect signal.

Anybody know of a way out of the contract currently, or coming up?

I know it's not me, it's just their suckass service here, because in Grand Rapids, MI it worked perfectly, of course they say it's just our phones, not their service in Idaho.
[EVO 4G General] david914:
Nope, this is a brand new airvana, just received it last week. Finally sprint is looking into my issue. Threatening to cancel my three lines gave them the change of heart.
[EVO 4G General] GatoEnFuego:
Read the thread you just posted to, there's about 3 pages of discussion regarding just that... ;)
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
From what some people have experienced is that if you roam on verizon 3g for more than 300mb per month for 3months or so, they have terminate your contract without ETF. Of course what the actual number is, I'm not sure. You can read up on that on tecknowlife's thread in the development section.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
ahh. weird. By the way... dont use it as a router. Its a HORRIBLE router. HORRIBLE. It cut speeds more then in half running anything through it.
[EVO 4G General] TorxT3D:
ive done most of the tweaks here, and ive gotten nothing but piss poor speeds, barely reaching 200-500kbps at any given time of the day, morning, night, late at night, early morning.... the only time i can reach 1000kbps is if im right next to my local tower.

but here in the house, i get full bars and im still barely reaching 500kbps down.

testing with a server IN my city and a server outside my city.

the only time i got REAL good speeds consistently was when i first got the evo, running stock rom.

speedtest.net app is still flaky to me though.
[EVO 4G General] DoctorComrade:
I rarely break 500kb. :( Starting to get annoying.
[EVO 4G General] david914:
Now imagine averaging only 100kbps
[EVO 4G General] david914:
Try using www.mobilespeedtest.com , more reliable for mobile
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
A guy in the other thread said that he did it, then they canceled his airave a month later and charged him $150 for canceling it, but he just called up and said he didn't do it.

I'm thinking this will work! I'm going to do it with the nexus s as soon as it comes out, then use the other 3 (actual phone lines) on the evo 3d a month later, assuming the nexus s is coming out this month or next.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Yeah, I want a Nexus S. Not sure about the Evo 3D since I was hyped about it but now not so much. Luckily my birthday is this month so who knows, maybe I'll get it :D I want the Nexus S because it's faster than the Evo and I know it'll get updates for a long time from Google. The only thing I'd miss is the notification LED as I don't really care about lack of MicroSD card since there's 16GB built in, which is more than enough space, really.

But back to the Airave thing, I guess I could ask online in their chat thingamabob or just call up and ask. I don't even use my Airave because I have a 3/768 connection in my house and I already use Vonage, so there isn't enough bandwidth for all the computers in my house + Airave + Vonage with only a 768 kbps upload speed. I'm waiting for FiOS to come to my block even though there's a friggin Verizon telephony building like 3 blocks from my house. So yeah, I just wanna use the upgrade without penalty. They should be able to cancel the line for the Airave without charging an ETF.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
No, don't go to anything corp sprint...go to bestbuy or some 3rd party site, like wirefly. Might as well keep the airave. Could probably sell it, too.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Anyone hear anything lately?
[EVO 4G General] doh_tee:
I live in Reno and this is my 3g speed. Not sure if that's good or bad. Anyone?

1100 kbps down. 500 up
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
That's pretty good actually. Very good.
[EVO 4G General] doh_tee:
Thought so. But its sketchy. Right after that I did one with less than 200 down. Ha.

Thanks man
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
every since my last call its been quite here speed are still **** so illl have my next bill adjusted
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
trvesc@sprint.com

Contact em
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I keep being told to wait until they solve it, so no credit for me.

I do that constantly. That's the email I had to send my data to several times and they've called me back and spoken to me. Nothing new with them.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Well they're about to get my fist in their ass because they didn't call me when they are the ones that scheduled it.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
yea the douche bags called me at work just about got me introuble with the regional manager ... i was not happy
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
He called me and basically told me that it looks like an overload of the towers/switches and it's scheduled for repair.

Said it could be another month or more.

Yeah, not happy.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
yes indeed i was the same way when the tech told me to basically suck it up and deal with it ..... yea NO
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
And that's their fault? How are they suppose to know? Should have kept your phone on silent.

Pocket posted...
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I guess if they would call at or at least AROUND the time that THEY AGREE TO, I would agree.
[EVO 4G General] Tower1972:
went to my local store to make a stink about the data speeds (with a weeks worth of speedtest results of sub 500k dl,some even lower then a 56k modem), and the first test the guy ran, 1.9mb down..WTF, I have NEVER seen 1.9 down on my phone...Go figure
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Airave.

tan
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I can attest to the calling you at the wrong time thing; I usually get my calls up to 3 hours after the hour I told them to call. Sometimes they even don't call and then call the next day at a random hour.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
What's scary is the excuse....

"We're under staffed today"

Excuse me?

That's the last department that should be understaffed.

I'm losing faith in Sprint and that takes a lot.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
If you call their direct number (whoever you're dealing with) it goes straight to voicemail. I tried to call the guy like 4 times like he says in his emails, even right after I miss his calls, and it will go to voicemail. I sent an email asking him why he bothers telling me to call when he doesn't pick up. He calls me back hours later saying he didn't pick up because he was talking to someone else. Really? I called him RIGHT after he called me. Also, I'm probably about to deal with the 3rd person so far. Last time, I was dealing with a woman named Tia. Then she was "out of the office, but she would be back". But she never came back and so now I'm dealing with Dwayne. And now Dwayne is "out of the office".
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
Well, I flashed and tries every pri and NV, with different prls, with an end result of: no changes with noting, which means, the towers are just overloaded and get need to get the f with this vision upgrade.

However, I flashed the new miui GB rom, with the latest PRI and PRL and now, according to speedtest, I'm getting almost double the speed everywhere, except market and apps barely work and I keep getting data errors, but websites seem to load a lot faster. I think its the towers and the weekend, though, not the rom.

I just want them to send me another airave or take some money off the bill until this is fixed!
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
F*ck the Airave. It's not an acceptable replacement. I can't even use mine because my upload bandwidth is tiny and I already use Vonage for my home phone. I use Roam Control to go to Verizon for voice and texting and just use wifi for data in my house.

I just want them to say: "Yes, there is a problem with the towers. Yes, they're overloaded and we're working to increase capacity. Yes, we will credit your account [and offer you a free upgrade for your trouble]. We're sorry for the inconvenience". That's all.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
Yeah, I want that, too.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
The Airave kept making my texts fail.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Mine worked for like an hour lol. I don't understand why it's a privilege to get one for free anyways. They shouldn't charge for these things at all to begin with. You're using your own bandwidth to get service where you should be covered.

Does anyone else feel like it's greedy to ask for an upgrade or something after this is fixed (or even before if it drags on)? Because I feel like all of us are entitled. The possibility of one is one of the few things keeping my patience intact. I just wish I was speaking to someone who wasn't so by the book and was more willing to bend backwards to make me stay.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
Yeah, texting is slow on ours...minutes slow, and usually the time is fed beyond belief, so they aren't in order...but my mom gets to deal with that. Lol.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
yes it is i it clearly states DO NOT CALL TILL AFTER 4:30 till i'm home !
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
So I got a call back from Ticket Support, but unfortunately I was flashing a ROM while they called, so they got my voicemail. The guy said "Sorry for missing you. We got a call back from our network team. It looks like this is a capacity issue and they'll try to work on it...Please email us at trvesc@sprint.com to set up a better callback time..."

What's stupid is this is only after I emailed them this last week:
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
LOL i wanna know how sprint calculates my data useage.........

my billing started on the 9th for me, according to them ive burned through 445,211KB so far and all this on 1x LMAO.

unless they are now counting airave data, i have noticed that even when im hooked on the airave it will show me on a sprintpcs ip addy instead of my cable ip like it used too.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
It's true. It is wack. The site actually shows different usage in the plan analyzer and the device usage in thr device listing. Someone should run an experiment by turning off data for a few days from the beginning of the billing cycle.
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
via ##768# yesterday till now ive used about 30 megs yet sprint gave me a 100 meg increase lol. Sprint is just becoming comical to me now with there responses and everything thats going on.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I don't like these sacrifices we're making to stay the last cheap carrier.
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
i dont either, but what bothers me most is how Sprint has really side stepped every question on what we all know now if this is an over capacity issue.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Got my callback. Definitely a capacity issue. Could take months and the guy said on average it does...No ETC, they're waiting for approval to do it.

And yeah I told him the same. I put in multiple tickets because they wouldn't believe it was a capacity issue. If they expect me to stay for MONTHS, they'd better give me free upgrades for each line.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
The capacity thing was a given to me from the start.. but of course people want you to believe its because they're upgrading the towers. I knew that was BS anyway.
[EVO 4G General] Shushunmire:
Well this is interesting. Sprint seems to have fixed the issue in parts of my city. I still get god awful speeds in certain areas, but at my house I'm getting 1.7Mbps down, and .7 up.
[EVO 4G General] asoong:
+1 - I was getting .19d/.46u on average for the last few months in SF, CA. Now I'm getting 1.36d/.65u since last friday.

btw, 4G is still pretty crappy - still at .60d/.98u. Yes, slower than 3G.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
That 4g sounds like a phone specific issue man.
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
Is this going to be for the whole network or just in your specific location?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Considering I was told the same thing and I live in Michigan...I would say "all affected areas"
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
It better be the whole network, because this issue is everywhere I go. What pissed me off is the guy was looking at the tower efficiencies on the computer was like "yeah, I see they're all below 80%, which is the minimum" [paraphrased]. So wtf, how come when I said this like 4 months ago, 2 of my tickets were closed and all the towers were working fine? It's not him personally, it's just Sprint's attitude specifically.
[EVO 4G General] 4redstars:
I was told by a rep things were going to be better today and surprisingly they are. Not back to what they were before the problems started but I've only hit 1x once today.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Sounds like they are in the midst of fixing the issue in your area. ::thumbs up::
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
That totally contradicts what I was told, unless they started months ago. Because the person said it takes months to do. In his own words, it's not "go to the tower and plug something in. It's replacing equipment. And you still have to get approval to do it". I think what he's experiencing is just luck; the speeds constantly fluctuate and are sometimes really fast in areas that don't matter.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
He's in Chicago, Fred, different areas are subject to different things.

It's totally possible that they have been working on it there for sometime.

Just like the issue has been fixed in Ann Arbor Michigan.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I hope that's the case for them. Because the guy said it takes 3-4 months on average to make this kind of change. fml
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
3-4 months of these speeds? There's no way I could go that long at less then 90 kbps. My speeds here in Colorado haven't improved at all and I'm going on just about four weeks.
[EVO 4G General] 4redstars:
Yeah, we'll see if they last but today has been totally different from what I've been experiencing. I mean I'm making these posts on my cell which I've not been able to in 2 months.

Tomorrow could go back to crap but we'll see
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Oh I didn't tell you, I had another call, this time from Dwayne @ Dan Hesse's office. He basically restated everything the Ticket Support guy said and then told me that it must be because of their industry-leading prices drawing in all their new customers. He was trying to keep me by "reminding me" of Sprint's great pricing. Not a way to make me feel better -________-

In fact:
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
Great price huh? I've heard chatter of people going to Verizon and only paying about $10 more than their Sprint plan.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
Well let's see here...It just took 18 fing minutes to download the 5.86 MB Google Maps app from the market!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My quick math says:

That's about 5.5kbps, or in other words, 10x SLOWER than DIAL-UP.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Damn dude... I feel for you lol. My Evo has been dead for three days I havent even bothered to charge it.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Wouldn't want you to get banned. ;)
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
Yet the people that actually spell it out, or have it in their sig with ** for two letters, don't get banned. Makes sense. ;)
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
They've been cracking down on the f word usage actually.

The change to "heavenly" is actually a joke because that's what one of the mods did when someone said the f word.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
Ohh, haha. I'm not on here enough to know what's happening, but in the last two days, I've seen it 2 or 3 times. Lol.

I figures it was. Haha.
[EVO 4G General] InfectedMushroom:
So my 3G speeds have been garbage for the past month at least. Randomly at a prime time, 6pm my speeds were back to 600-800 kbps.

Yesterday they were crap all day, slower than dial up...today at 1pm it was back to 800. Nothing has changed while I was at work, and at 11pm its back to a crawl. I don't get it...for a while, the only time I got good speeds was at 4am. Now it was great during peak times and it's terrible right now at 1am. I just don't get it.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
It's been established that the network is overcapacity all over the place. However, they're still treating each incident, as they call them, separately. Like I said, I spoke to the guy from Ticket Support and he was being totally honest when he said these things can take months, on average 3-4 months. The guy from Dan Hesse's office said that usually they're prepared for these things, but the customers came aboard faster than anticipated. I don't excuse them for this and I do think that they owe all of us credit and an upgrade, especially if we stay with them for up to 4 more months.

I can't believe the guy on the phone was trying to keep me as a customer by reading back all the things that Sprint offers, like a "Simply Everything plan" and "competitive pricing", etc. You don't have to try and sell me what I already have; I'm already your customer and it only makes you sound like a douche. That being said, even MetroPCS gives better service than this (data speeds), especially here in NYC, so this is really unacceptable. For a problem this big, it shouldn't take 3-4 months. It should be done in 1 month tops. What are they going to do when the problem spreads? Stop selling contracts and phones? Or maybe they're counting on current customers to leave to relieve congestion? I really don't know what's going on in their minds. All I know is they're not giving me any good reasons to stay when I could just hop over to T-Mobile. I doubt that AT&T merger is going to be allowed to happen.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
I agree. The network is just overloaded, and that's understandable. Everybody went and bought EVOs because it was the best smartphone in America (up until 2 months ago) and it was the most service for the least amount /mo.

...But they don't seem to care about fixing the problem, because Sprint is a very disorganized, small-minded, corporate company. They don't fix, they just buy. Oh, let's buy nextel (how'd that turn out?), oh, let's buy Clearwire (how's that turning out), oh, let's buy tmo - that will fix our data issues and we'll actually own towers again!

Yeah...going to call and really hammer on Wednesday. That 5.5kbps gmaps download really did it for me. The weird thing is though, the speedtest app has been saying 300-500 down, but I think it just has a problem the newest miui rom. Down speeds are always doubled, like on the airave the other night...it said 2.8mbps down...but it usually says 1.6mbps down.