yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] packerjd04:
Not trying to threadjack here but I have mostly the same problem so I thought I would just add it here. I was flashed Ruby 2.02 ROM and was just setting things up when my phone rebooted it would not get past the htc incredible splash screen so I read to pull the battery and try to reboot into recovery. When I tried to reboot into recovery my phone just vibrated 3 times then went dead. Did my phone just get bricked or what? ANY help would be awesome!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] userjf:
Can you still get to recovery now? If so, you are probably ok.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] packerjd04:
I am able to get into recovery but if I try to reboot from there it is still stuck at the splash screen. I think my sd card is not working right now, so I am not able to flash anything. Is my only solution a factory reset?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] userjf:
You need to boot recovery, wipe and flash a known working rom and start completely over. You really need to get a working card.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] packerjd04:
Well I flashed one and the problem didn't change so I am now flashing an older one of a different ROM that I hope will work.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] userjf:
complete wipe???
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] packerjd04:
Good news!! The second backup I flashed worked! I think I should be okay for now, thanks for the help userjf.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] budlow:
Is there a way to change the lock screen orientation to portrait mode? Also since installing"Full Screen Caller ID" my call screen is now stuck in portrait mode also... Any ideas on how to fix other than installing the app?

ATT Black Dell Streak

DJ Steve's 1.6.1 StreakDroid ROM
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iphonepimp:
im trying to install djs 1.6.1 on 318.

my configs are

noapps

density240

volboost

my phone has been looping at the djs streakdroid animation for 10 min plus. now and then the lockscreen will show but you cant unlock the phone. should i continue to wait?
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rymn:
idk I can't figure it out either. I've tried every version with and without install.txt... Hope someone can help us.

edit: I don't get lock screen though, just loop..
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bash_array:
Flash amss.mbn to revert your baseband using fastboot

Flash 1.5.1 and let the phone boot up into the OS. (you will get alot of force closes

Perform a factory reset via phone os under privacy or 4 option dell recovery boot menu

Wipe cache

Flash 1.6.1 with text file options that you listed above.

Voila

Do not restore any applications from titanium back up or any other app back up software... you will have to reinstall all your apps.

Cheers
[Droid X General] Imoseyon:
compiled for Droid X?
[Droid X General] theherodrownd:
Compcache is in the kernel and cannot be added until the bootloader is unlocked.
[Droid X General] Imoseyon:
Oh really. Can't be added as a kernel module? That's a shame. Thx.
[Nook Color General] yerand:
people are selling overpriced autonooter and nookie froyo sd cards on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/NOOK-Color-Barn...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb461d149#ht_2471wt_1139

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nook-Color-Froy...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb4ab56db#ht_1040wt_1139
[Nook Color General] RoboRay:
Overpriced? What would be the appropriate price?
[Nook Color General] lawmage:
Actually assuming it's not the author of the software selling it, no price is appropriate. It's blatant copyright infringement and should be pulled from ebay.

edit:

Of course in the real world things are never totally clear cut. If I was representing the eBay seller I'd argue some sort of implied copyright license. OTOH I think it's a relatively weak case as the implied license is most likely for users of this board. I'd really strongly suggest that authors here put a notice in their code/posts stating what they want to allow (i.e. personal use only/do not distribute, etc.)

Disclaimer: I am a lawyer. I am not YOUR lawyer. This is not legal advice and just discussion.
[Nook Color General] DiscoPh3v3r:
It is sad, it truly is, but if people can't be bothered to read a little bit, and they have the money, let them buy whatever they want. (I have a feeling that had way too many commas but whatevs lol)

I would much rather them go that safe route than have their device bricked I guess :/

Even though its hard to brick your device from an SD card (and by that I mean impossible)
[Nook Color General] techboydino:
this guy should be spammed. it ruins the point of open source. sure, your paying for a sevice but....what happens after they get the nook and OTA's happen. What happens when something goes wrong or they want to update. How about mentioning that it voids the warranty. Unsuspecting people will have no idea what to do when a problem arises.

imagine giving a rooted nook color to your mother and telling her she is on her own from here out. its just wrong.
[Nook Color General] jtxmobile:
not to mention the $18 dollar shipping charge...that's crazy
[Nook Color General] nootered:
I wrote to the sellers and reported them as well. That being said, if they can confirm that they are the true creators of these "services" I would certainly feel a bit like an ass. However, that being said, I don't think they were.

The whole point of open source and free creating is just that, open and free.

If someone does not have the wits to perform the quite simple tasks of rooting a device, they should stick with leaving it in stock form.
[Nook Color General] RoboRay:
If someone "does not have the wits" to perform the quite simple tasks of installing a car stereo, they should leave it stock? Or is it OK for them to pay somebody to upgrade it for them?

How about the simple tasks of putting an addition on their house, or preparing all the food for their wedding reception? When exactly is it acceptable to pay someone to do something you don't know or care or simply don't have time to learn how to do?
[Nook Color General] nootered:
Two totally different beasts. You could apply your "logic" to just about everything in life.

They will not have the technical know-how of keeping up with the released updates, or know how to fix anything if something goes wrong.

Not to mention the fact that they are offering, at a ridiculous price no less, to simply apply software, that they likely didn't even create, to someone's hardware.

You don't find anything wrong with this at all?
[Nook Color General] RoboRay:
It's certainly distasteful, but I think you'll have a hard time proving they're doing anything improper.

Who are we to decide what price somebody should put on what they are selling? In case you are unfamiliar with market economics, the seller is free to set any price he chooses, just as the buyers are free to decide if they are willing or not to pay it. Nobody is forced to buy if they feel the price is to high.

It's not substantially different from the cases I mentioned, either. In all of them, circumstances can and will arise where the customer will be unable to cope without further support. It's the customer's responsibility to ensure that support will be available. If it won't be, they are pretty foolish if they don't either shop elsewhere or learn to manage on their own.

And yes, we can and do apply this logic to everything in life.
[Nook Color General] yerand:
What i meant by overpriced was that if he were to sell them for twenty or even thirty dollars (depending on the capacity of the card). He would be doing a service, providing people with no tech know-how an easy way to root. But at those prices, they are just taking advantage of people.
[Nook Color General] RoboRay:
Agreed there, but if people choose not to educate themselves, we can't do it for them. And I guarantee that there are people who feel that spending $70 to turn their $250 ereader into a $500 tablet is money well spent. /shrug
[Nook Color General] CocoaGoddess:
All of the services that you mentioned would come standard with a warranty of some sort to insure that if anything goes wrong, the contractor, the caterer, or the mechanic would fix it for free, or for a small service fee.

There are no such guarantees here. For instance, the new 1.1.0 update that was pushed out this past week...what kind of insurance are they going to give the consumer that if the update breaks the root, that they won't have to pay another large fee just to have it fixed? Or that it can even BE fixed? (Which at the moment, it can't)

It's not illegal, but it's shady and unethical as hell, and they should be reported. Or the consumer should at least be aware of the consequences.
[Nook Color General] phirephotog:
I agree with everything everyone has said in a very legally binding manner. Its prey vs hunter at this point. Who has the sharpest claws?

sent from my nootered nook color
[Nook Color General] acedickson:
What the sellers are doing is a little wrong but you can find people offering to root phones all over craigslist for $50+, what's the difference? I don't agree with the argument that they should provide some warranty for future updates. The service they're offering will do exactly as their listing says and doesn't promise to work in the event that a future update breaks root.

If someone pays what they're asking, and I agree it's a ridiculous price, then that's what it's worth to them. IMO, people pay too much for many things but they see value in it (i.e. famous art), whereas I don't. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy art but I would never pay $108 million, if I had billions, for a Jackson Pollock. I say, to each his own.
[Nook Color General] TchnclFl:
I think it's a matter up to the consumer. Any informed consumer would do research before making the investment, and probably determine that it's too hard / too much work for them to do themselves. If they don't take this into account, that's not the seller's fault. Just my $0.02.

Regardless, a search of eBay shows that it's catching on with more than just one person:

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_tr...kw=nook+color+froyo&_sacat=See-All-Categories
[Nook Color General] nootered:
I received a message back from the one sellers, and he/she was very offended and said that I have no right to say anything, and so what if it is unethical or distasteful.

He/she claims to have taken part in the help of rooting the Nook, so it is no doubt that they are quite active on these or other forums. And I am sure they are reading this, and will be able to associate my name here with the person that has messaged them. Hi.

People like you make me sick, you are no different than the creditors that call 95 year old ladies up to take every last penny they have so that you can buy the boat at the end of the year.

If you did in fact have anything to do with the rooting process, and the many hours that have been spent to root these devices, you should be ashamed of yourself.
[Nook Color General] nootered:
Yes, it is the sellers fault. That is like saying that the tobacco companies are in no way responsible for the millions of deaths every year from THEIR product. Now, I know this is a stretch, and an exaggeration, but it is on purpose to show my point.

It's wrong, plain and simple. Of course, that's just my 2 cents. :)
[Nook Color General] TchnclFl:
I disagree. You can't get addicted to buying overpriced things. There comes a point when you are physically incapable (or at least nearly so) of stopping smoking, and you NEED to go back to the companies. They made their warnings clear, but that didn't matter. If you buy an overpriced uSD card, you're not going to be physically required to buy more.

EDIT: I might add that depending on which cards you're talking about, they're more or less a scam. When I was saying it's not unreasonable, I referring to the ones in the lower range like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280623461313

I mean a good retail 4 GB uSD card can cost close to that.
[Nook Color General] cal3thousand:
For the passionate

Seems like there are some that are quite passionate in seeing that this guy only gets what he has worked for.

So I suggest that they cut his market out. Sell an item that just covers listing costs and your time that shows people how to root and links them to XDA and shows them how "fish for themselves". You might end up stealing enough of his market share that he quits.

Just and idea...
[Nook Color General] fwdixon:
Well, legal or not the listing violates eBay's policies, and should be pulled.
[Nook Color General] RoboRay:
If anyone feels that this guy shouldn't be selling these cards for $70, they should make some up themselves and sell them for $20 or whatever they believe they are actually worth. Problem solved. The guy won't be able to sell any more at the "wrong" price.

If you aren't willing to take action to stop the guy, you ready have no valid reason to complain any further, since it must not actually be that important to you after all
[Nook Color General] RoboRay:
Which policy? Can you please be specific?
[Nook Color General] TchnclFl:
I agree. eBay used to have an anti-jailbreaking/rooting policy prior to the DMCA clarification of congress last year, which states that jailbreaking/modifying filesystems is legal.
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
Do the cards have GApps on them? If so, Google would have a say about that.
[Nook Color General] elkvalley:
I'm a 50 plus old, low tech guy that followed the great directions posted here to root my NC and then this past week fix the 1.1 update. If I can follow what you guys so clearly, and accurately post here, I am truely concerned how some people will survive the onslaught of the new information world. ( In fairness to myself, I can build shopping centers :-) :-))
[Nook Color General] nootered:
You are missing the point. I was not stating that upgrading electronics, I was using it as an example to state that the seller KNOWS what they are doing, and they KNOW that they are charging for something that they have no right to do.

And regarding the cards, I don't know where you purchase yours, but a VERY good 4GB card costs about $15 or less in some cases.
[Nook Color General] urbanengine1:
lol... maybe a few years back...

but i completely agree with the majority of posters, this is an extremely unsavoury thing to do and is simply taking advantage of people who dont know any better...

you have to realise that its not that people dont want to learn how to do it themselves and save a few bucks, its more likely that listings on ebay like this make people assume it is a hard thing to do...

its like the wii homebew saga all over again :(
[Nook Color General] deeper-blue:
There will always be people that buy stuff that you can get for free with the help of a google search.

For $70 it better be a fast card ;)
[Nook Color General] nootered:
For $70 it should come with a 32GB SSD.
[Nook Color General] A. Nonymous:
I'm a bit surprised ebay lets this stay up there. Many, many moons ago when PSPs were the hippest things I sold magic batteries that let you hack the PSP. Well, I tried to anyway. I sold one or two and then ebay started pulling all of my auctions and threatening to banhammer me as selling anything that let you hack something violated their TOS.
[Nook Color General] bah!:
Really? So you take action on everything you see as an injustice or immoral or just plain wrong? I highly doubt it. People, including yourself, complain about things they don't like all the time without ever doing anything about it...why is this any different? Because you are on the other side of the argument?
[Nook Color General] RoboRay:
1. I'm not on either side of "the argument." I've specifically said that what the seller is doing is distasteful AND that he's not clearly "wrong" to do it. Which side is it that you think I'm on?

2. I DO NOT complain publicly, at great length, airing my grievances about things I am not actually willing to do anything more than complain about. I do, however, point out the fallacies and hypocrisy of those who do.
[Nook Color General] Musicman247:
Android is an open-source project, meaning that anyone can do anything they want with it.

The people who created the Froyo images for the Nook Color are not in the clear as far as the law is concerned due to the use of Google Applications.

The Ebay sellers are taking advantage of the fact that no one is going to come after them because: A) They did not create what they are selling, so Google won't get involved B) The people who created it are not in a legal position to speak up

Is it immoral to sell something you had no part of? Yes. Is it illegal? Not particularly. As someone stated earlier, you pay people all the time to install things that they didn't make, you don't understand, and wouldn't be able to fix yourself. This is not much different.

If a colleague of yours approached you with their Nook Color and said they would pay you to root it, would you do it? Or would you say no, since you were not the creator of the code?

Edit: I know that many people are going to say that they would root the Nook for free. But what if the colleague then offered to pay for lunch for the service instead of a monetary payment?
[Nook Color General] bah!:
1. You said yourself that people don't have the right to complain, which would put you on the opposite side of those who are doing so.

2. Please. Since when do a couple forum posts constitute "at great length"? And if you've ever complained about anything without further followup, publicly or not, you are just as much a hypocrite as the people you are calling out now.

Anyway, this is getting way off topic so I'll end it there.
[Nook Color General] computerpro3:
Oh please. I don't see you building your own furniture, wrenching you own car, etc, etc, etc.

The ebay seller is providing a service. It's as simple as that. If someone knows what root is, they know they can do it themselves. Many just choose not to.

I know I can do an oil change myself, but I'd rather pay someone to do it quickly and easier.

Welcome to the real world.
[Nook Color General] gallahad2000:
To ignore the OT conversation, shouldn't Ebay be pulling this just for overcharging shipping. I know that they've done that to me plenty (trying to avoid the stupid fees :D).
[Nook Color General] RoboRay:
May I suggest http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d.html/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/179-1579169-3271720?a=1576851265 ?
[Nook Color General] nootered:
He is not selling a service, he is selling software that he/she did not create. They are also reselling a memory card, at a ridiculous premium might I add.

This is not the "real" world. In my opinion their shouldn't be any money at all. Money is why we are in the state we are. The crapper.

Imagine what kind of world we would live in if money was not in existence.

All that aside, what the seller is doing is immorally wrong, and he/she IS violating several eBay rules as well. If you are not up and up on them, don't argue with me, I have read the fine print. :)

And for the record. Yes, I do all my own car maintenance, or have a friend help me with it over a few beers, and I'm a photographer. :rolleyes:
[Nook Color General] computerpro3:
You just proved my point completely.

First, he absolutely is selling a service - the service of loading software onto a memory card, configuring that software, and delivering it to someone's doorstep. It's no different than me offering to set up ubuntu for someone for $20.

Second, while we're hitting the bong over where you live in hippie land, in my opinion we also shouldn't have ugly people, Ron Paul fans, the Disney Channel, or Apple.

Third, while you may have some sort of perceived moral superiority, I'm in a hell of a lot of a better position than you financially because of that. That's not to demean your decision; I'm merely explaining mine. If you're comfortable as you are, great - but know that with your mindset you're needlessly sacrificing standard of living for totally baseless claims.

As I said, welcome to the real world.
[Nook Color General] nootered:
No, he is not simply offering a service. He is deceiving the public, in hopes to find people stupid enough to do something like this to their device, and then just "have it work" when we both know full well that won't be the case.

Bong? Sorry, I don't smoke, never have. Let me guess, you are uber proud to be American? LOL

Moral superiority? Are you sure you aren't the one toking? And that is quite the assumption you have made regarding my financial position, considering you don't know what my income, assets or financial background is. A bit of a piss match huh?

Unlike some people, I have a problem taking advantage of people, especially if it is to make a buck. And when you are in a position where you don't need money, why practically steal it from others simply because they are naive?

Sounds to me like you have extensive social issues my friend. Check the mirror. Then your gut.
[Nook Color General] madfatter:
Its this guy, id put money on it!!
[Nook Color General] TchnclFl:
Eh I doubt the person is an active forum member, probably a lurker. Just because they think the person isn't doing anything wrong doesn't mean that they're the seller..
[Nook Color General] nootered:
He/she likely is a member, as in their response to me, they stated that they had a helping hand in the making of the root software (which I still doubt very much).
[Nook Color General] TchnclFl:
Ah, didn't know that.

I'd also like to address this post (which I missed earlier):

When's the last time you walked into a retail store to buy your products (as the average consumer does)? Good luck finding a "VERY good" 4GB card for that cheap. Look what BestBuy charges for a stupid CLASS 2(!):

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/SanDisk...1026&skuId=8439932&st=4 GB micro sd&cp=1&lp=1
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
Yes, Best Buy prices in this context are totally valid... :rolleyes:
[Nook Color General] nootered:
This is a VERY good card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220492

It's $12.99, and free shipping.
[Nook Color General] computerpro3:
Explain to me exactly what is deceiving about his advertisement. It's crystal clear. If you want root and froyo, you can pay for the card.

And FWIW, ALL commerce is based on finding someone "stupid" enough (I disagree with your word) to pay for a service. Fact: nobody would be able to make a living if providing a service did not cost them less than they could sell it for. Hence, he's not "duping" anyone - the people buying fully realize that somehow he can provide the service for cheaper than he is selling it for. Those that do care google it and wind up here. Other people simply don't care and buy it anyway for convenience sake. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.

Do you have a problem with PC Technicians charging for virus removal? It's the same concept. Removing most viruses is trivial, yet people make a living doing it. Is that dishonest? Clearly not.

I don't need to know your financial position to make that statement. I know mine, and at a certain point it becomes a numbers game. Plus, my point was that I can tell merely by your mindset. You're not exactly coming off as a C level executive.

If you have a problem taking advantage of people to make a buck, you should go join a commune. You're pretty much disqualified from taking part in any form of economic system unless you want to be a hypocrite.
[Nook Color General] RoboRay:
The first guy to point a finger is the guilty one, as often as not. Heck, if you actually read these forums you'll see that I don't even HAVE an NC yet.

I do enjoy pointing out to people how illogical and flawed their arguments are, though.
[Nook Color General] madfatter:
The first guy to comment and swing off the ebay posters nuts is often the guilty one too haha.
[Nook Color General] TchnclFl:
But, like I said, the average (not technologically-inclined) consumer isn't going to buy an SD card off Newegg, they're going to go to a place where they sell "electronic stuff" (eg, BestBuy), and buy what the saleman tells them to. My point was that most people would pay close to that much for the same capacity.