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[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I say that given the Sprint coverage map on their site for NYC, there's a problem with your phone.

I then would say that if you are roaming constantly, in a high coverage area, and you don't have an issue with your phone, you should call and get a free air rave.
[EVO 4G General] GatoEnFuego:
No offense but you're being more argumentative than anyone here.

I know what you're saying and I have no doubt that Sprint is aware of this very small loophole. Think about how many MILLIONS of subscribers they have and how few people they have to cancel due to roam charges. It's not worth their time to fight this battle. It doesn't matter how "easy" you think it is, it's a matter of cost vs reward...

I'm out of this "debate"... All I know is I can now listen to my streaming music all day long now. Sweet sweet victory.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
More argumentative because I'm having a discussion?

Interesting for you to say....considering you jumped down my throat instead of reading what I was saying.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
It's not an issue with my phone. I've had it replaced 3 times, although not because of that. Verizon gets great signal in my house (my dad's company phone is BB Storm 2), yet Sprint's won't penetrate even though it's on the same frequency. Once I step outside my front door, I magically get Sprint signal. So for now, I use Roam Control to force roaming on Verizon (just for voice and text since I use Wifi).

Also, I have a free Airave, but I use Vonage for my home phone, so I stopped using it because they conflict.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
That's really weird.

Why would Verizon's penetrate and Sprint's not?

They both are at the same freq as you said.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
No idea. It's the same issue with T-Mobile. AT&T and Verizon work fine throughout my house.
[EVO 4G General] frontay:
Will this Airave boost my ****ty 3g speeds? I have 3 bars, then I wireless tether. I get anywhere from 20 kbs to 375 kbs. I usually get the higher bandwidth after I do the profile reset. If I attempt to download a large file via 3G my download speed starts getting throttled. I usually average about 40-75 kbps. Is the Airave plug n play?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
If this is a relatively new issue see this post:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11504948&postcount=73
[EVO 4G General] GatoEnFuego:
I think you mistook my sarcastic jab at Sprint as jumping down your throat, please re-read my post.

Continue with your discussion.
[EVO 4G General] frontay:
I've seen this issue, I've read this entire thread. I was just trying to see if anyone had any information about the Airave so I would not have to go through the rigors of calling their support line for just a few questions. If this is getting too away from the OP I can post a new [Q] thread.

1. Will Airave give me higher download / upload speeds, if my signal is 2-3 bars?

2. Can people leech off my Airave, say in an apartment building? Is it configurable, like how a router is? Could I allow certain ESN's for example?

3. Is it plug n play... there is a place I go vacation to that has bad reception due to the home being old and the town has a limited number of towers. I noticed older buildings get crappy reception, I believe this is due to the materials used in construction of the building long ago.

4. Is it hard to get the Airave? Do I need a excuse that sounds very legitimate, or can I just say "Dude, I got crappy reception in my house, will you send me an Airave?" My town has great cell coverage, but towards the outskirts the coverage drops, and its a little lower inside the house.

I know I'm sorta asking a lot, but I believe anyone who has an Airave could answer most of these questions. I also believe this is directly related to the "Data Speeds, WTF" so please don't flame.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
1. Your Airave will use your home's internet connection. Basically it's like a Wifi router, except for 3G. If you use Vonage or VOIP for your home phone, it might conflict.

2. Up to 5 phones can connect, and yes, you can filter by phone number through the Sprint website.

3. You plug it in, and it comes with a little GPS receiver that plugs into it. It's for 911 purposes and so you can't take it over seas where there is no Sprint service. You also have to wait a few hours for it to provision.

4. Nope. All I did was call and literally say, "I have no coverage inside my house, but when I walk outside it's fine. I heard you were giving away free Airaves with no monthly charges to customers with the same issue". And that's what I got. Proof:
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
How far into your contract did you say that?

Just wondering.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Well right now I'm about 7 months in. I did this back when I was maybe 3 or 4 months in?
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
You currently can NOT filter phone numbers. Sprint said that they were having problems with it. So if you live in an apartment building, get ready for other people to be hogging your bandwidth.

The on board gps also will give your phone false readings. When I got my airave, I was using my phone to route a trip, and found my gps was about 100 miles off. When I unplugged the Airave, it was fine. I called sprint, and they say that is a "feature" of the Airave, that it purposely sends out a WRONG gps signal to your phone. So just an fyi, your phone gps will not work when in range of the airave.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Listen, people call me a Sprint fan boy on here.

They accuse me of "sucking Hesse's ****" and all that.

But yanno what?

I don't come to my opinions about things without thought and good reason.

While this 3g data thing with Sprint currently sucks... Sprint is still the best company of the major four.

I would spend the next 6 months with shaky data before I gave a dime to At&t OR Verizon.

Is that something we should be proud of as a country?

Maybe not.

But it's the truth.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Another day, another phone call.

"Before we proceed I need to let you know this call may be monitored or recorded for quality-assurance purposes".

[Thinking: "Before we continue, I need to let you know that I may come over there and

strangle

you"]

"Network team is still working on your issue...Can I call you back on Friday?"

"Sure..."

[Thinking: I'M GOING TO KILL YOU DWAYNE!"]

---------------------------------

I would also like an explanation of why I went from this:

To this:
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
Starting with this post

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12633178&postcount=1745

It's been suggested to drop the pri down to 1.34. I tried this and seemed to have gotten better speeds, but need more testing to determine if it's a change that's due to this, or just time of day, or tower load, or IP address i'm pulling.
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
Have you guys tried having advanced tech support do a complete full data provision? I am going to have them do that to my evo. They did that to my dad's evo, which was getting ping of over 800 ms and speeds were horrendous (single digits). Since they did the full provision, the ping is usually less than 200ms and speeds have improved drastically.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Even though I'm on the latest PRL, I tried this:

http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-tips-tricks/280082-major-solution-fix-your-slow-3g-speeds-evo4g.html

From the basement of a building on campus, I got 1.23 Mbps down and 457 kbps up. Holy ****, I hope this is a real fix. EDIT: Holy ****, 1.527 Mbps down now, and this where I usually get like 200 Mbps.

What you do is:
[EVO 4G General] Axe-08:
Same here in stl

Sent from my HTC evo
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
That fix is definitely doing something! I'm hitting up to 1.8 Mbps in a lot of places now!
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I had that fix before I went aosp and it didn't help.

Plus my mom's palm pre and my brother and Dads epic have these same issues.

Not including the fact that when in different cities the issue doesn't occur.
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
Hey fellas, I'm hoping you guys can help me out. I got the run around from a Sprint rep about my data speeds and to be honest I don't know much about it myself. Ran some speed tests around my house and at work, the most common places I use my phone and I got these results,

#1: 47 kbps down 95 kbps up

#2: 48 kbps down 128 kbps up

#3: 106 kbps down 71 kbps up

#4: 58 kbps down 34 kbps up

Like I said, I'm no expert but I'd say these aren't very good speeds.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Yeah that's where we've been for a while :(
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
Ah, got ya :/
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
****, I think it was just luck that I got those high speeds. Now I'm back in my neighborhood and I'll down to 100 kbps :(
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
You're breaking my balls.

My balls, sir.

You're breaking them.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
I was also experiencing sketchy and slow 3G speeds but as of late, last week or so, things have been consistently quicker. Not just relying on speedtests but also browsing speeds and knowing some sites and how quick - or slow - they can be, things have appeared to be getting better. Faith, one must have. Sprint has to be doing something, but granted; I've never experienced the extremely slow and consistent speeds / experiences that others have.
[EVO 4G General] david914:
I feel the exact same way when chrisite calls
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
Thats who ive been talking to from Dans office lol

Sent using magic
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
They have done that to my phone at least 30 times. Every time, it seems to work fine for about a half hour, then speeds go back in the crapper.

Yeah, that's dial-up speeds right there.
[EVO 4G General] LargePrime:
A standard process should be to UNDO any fix and retest. in a short period of time.

Hopefully less balls will be broken that way

I am seeing this.

For 3 months sucky ON PEAK dlds. down to 0-20 KBps (note big b) during the day. ~100KBps overnight.

For the last week I see 75+KBps daily and ~175+KBps overnight.

This is on the Boost Network.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
So I received a survey the day after I spoke to a *2 person yesterday. [First time in quite a while]

Well, they didn't like my responses to the survey so a "priority team member" called me.

I explained what's been going on. She reduced my bill again and apparently sent a ticket straight to the network personnel and will also be following up with me in 7 days to see if the issue gets resolved.

I guess at this point I can't get my hopes too high but who knows.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Haha, I never even got a survey since I've had this issue. But I know I would put that I'm upset with everything, regardless of the fact that they ask you to put "not sure". You're lucky you got your bill reduced. I was never offered once by anyone. And when I asked a tech, he said he would except that if the problem is still happening, then he may not reduce it enough. Such bull****.
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
I honestly dont know how much longer i can deal with this. since 3g is basically worthless ive been using 4G when i need to use data on my phone and it seems as though 4G has gone to the ****ter as well for me.

heres my speedtest from just now while teathered to my laptop
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
so after my phone last night im kinda happy they took 50 off my bill this month and every month until my speeds are fixed they will adjust my bill . and i had my upgrades reset and she putting in a request for my account to be upgraded to gold status .

so all in all im happy .. now for 4g :P
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Gold status?

What's yo secret
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Yeah I'd like to know as well. That's the very least they can do for us. If they can do that, I'll be more inclined to stay with them. THIS is real loyalty, us staying. We shouldn't have to spend an insane amount of money on 3000 minutes we don't need when mobile to mobile is free, or be a customer for 10 years.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
Premier gold sorry
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I know what you meant, we want to kno yo secrat
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
So what do you guys think? Think the problem will be fixed here within a week? I only have a couple days left in my Sprint Guarantee to return my Evo and possibly cancel my service.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I'd be lying if I said that I thought it would be fixed within a week.

But it's been fixed in a few areas so who knows.

If I were you I'd have my eyes on the Evo 3D coming in about two months.

Plus, by then, I'm sure it will be fixed.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
I'd venture to say it'll likely be fixed by summer, given that they'll likely be hyping the new evo like mad.
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
It would depend on when the Evo 3D is released. I may save money by cancelling my service and then going back when the 3D is released if that's possible.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I don't know your exact situation so I can't answer that but there's no reason to think the Evo 3D won't be released in the first week of June.
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
i doubt it will be fixed in a week.
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
I'd pay about 75 to get out of my contract and go phoneless for about 2 months but then could get the Evo 3D IF its released in June.

Has anyone done that before? Leave Sprint and then go back a few months later?
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
LOL so Christie called just now, finally admitted they are having tower issues in my area that were supposed to be fixed by today which there not. Told me she would get back with me on the 29th or when the towers are fixed if its before the 29th.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
Really don't think its going to be fixed anytime soon.

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
Idle really think I got lucky really

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I don't know how you did it but rest assured I'm going to be typing a lengthy email back to Dan@sprint.com. This, us sticking with Sprint decide this issue, is loyalty. Not spending money on minutes we don't need or being with them for 10 years. Because lemme tell you, at this rate, I won't spend another year with them.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Wow I just walked into the Sprint store by my house and took pictures and vids of Speedtest running on the display phones. Ill put them up when I get home. Even the employees were *****ing about the speeds and admitted it instantly when I asked them about it.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
The one sprint store I stopped by had their device on wifi. Turned that off, then it went to 4g. Turned that off as well and was finally at 3g. The bars indicated a good strong signal, ##debug# showed good signal for evdo too. Speeds, ~300-500 kbps in both directions.

One thing that wouldn't surprise me is if some of these stores in poor signal/bandwidth areas had several airaves mounted inconspicuously throughout the store. Again, checking the debug screen showed a tower nid (one not ending in a 2).
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
The one I was in shut off 3G data on the phones that made it obvious how to, in this case an Evo (through the Power menu). They had 4G on, when I turned it off, 3G wouldn't come on. So I held the power button and it said mobile data was off. Uploading the pictures and video from my phone. Gimmie a few minutes.

OK here are the pics:
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Test it.

Call out on a phone.

If it beeps 3 times then you know it's connected to an Airave.
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
the store closest to me has airaves in the store, you can walk all around that area and 0-1 bar, as soon as you get in the store bam full bars haha
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Look one page back, last post. I just put up pictures I took and I'm uploading the video to YouTube.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Like I said, test it.

Make a phone call and see if it does the triple beep.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Here's the video I took at the Sprint store guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv8Gyl_wqPM
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
So im just wondering.... people keep saying this is due to towers being upgraded right? This started happening here around October. It's now April... thats like 7 months. Does it really take that long to switch a tower over to "network vision?" And are they working on ALL of the towers at the same time??? That just doesnt seem logical to me at all.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
It's all bull**** man. I even caught their photoshop a few pages back.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
You're right man.

Sprint's done.

They announced it today.

56k speeds forever.

Turning themselves into the netzero of wireless.

:rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
In other words you have no logical response. I dont care how much of a Sprint lover you are this tower upgrade thing isnt going to fly for much longer. And when you call, depending on which rep you talk to you get a different explanation from every single one as to why. "There's no issue." "Oh we sent a tech out and theres no problems." "There's an open ticket."

SMH.. again how long does it take to upgrade a tower? And are they working on them ALL at once? It'd be one thing if I was getting crap speeds in one small area and they were good in others.. thatd make sense. But all over town? I have seen two totally new non sprint towers go up over here in months less time than this upgrade is taking. I mean wtf?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Sprint lover my ass I'm just not stupid.

I don't know what is taking them so long, I don't have that answer, I don't work for them.

But the suggestion that Sprint is just not doing anything about it is as ridiculous as my reply to you.

And I guess I'd have more respect for your post if not for the fact that you do nothing but dump on Sprint every second you're on these forums and have done that for the last however many months.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Watch the video a few posts up that I took today if you don't believe there's an issue. Sprint can't hide it for much longer. It's starting to show in their stores.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I believe there's an issue, I've never said there isn't.

I saw the video.

But I also experience it.

I hear the *****ing of my parents and brother every day as well.

I know there's an issue.

But the idea that Sprint isn't doing anything about the issue...while Verizon has 20 mbit/s LTE, T-mobile is launching HSPA + at even higher speeds in some cases and At&t is rated the fastest 3g with 4g coming...is just about the most ridiculous claim in the world.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I think they're doing what they did pre-Evo all over again. There was a reason they were way behind a few years back.

What do you guys think of this email I'm sending to the guy at D.H.'s office?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Sounds like a good idea.

I may try it as well.
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
Id watch it right now but im

on 3G and well you know about the speeds lol

Sent using magic
[EVO 4G General] 4redstars:
I'll be honest, that sounds more like a demand to get something for free than to get the service working like it should. You don't normally get the response you want when you demand things unrelated to the issue at hand.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Considering that no one has offered anything to me previously, and the fact that I would have had an upgrade by August if this new stupid system wasn't enacted, I think this is more than fair. It's true what I said about the contract; Any carrier who can't provide the service they advertise is supposed to, according to the contract itself, let you go without an ETF. In the email, I said I have no intention of leaving Sprint. My "demands", as you call them, just what I think I deserve. Sprint Premier rewards customers for loyalty. I think all of us who aren't jumping ship despite the fact that their network is obviously congested are loyal enough to be Gold Premier customers.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
I'd laugh if you got a response like this;

http://deadspin.com/#!5716038/the-greatest-letter-ever-printed-on-nfl-team-letterhead

The funny;
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
Fred, did you set the speed tests to use the same server on each device, and more importantly, is it a server that's close to your geographic location.

Also, you probably should of run at least 3-5 tests on each device to show the trend.

Assuming you did all that, I wouldn't doubt your average would be 1x speeds. I seem to average 200-500 kbps during most hours of the waking day. Things improve at night, occasionally even hitting over 1mbps on the download.

We have a little strip mall here in town, within there's a verizon, us cellular (local provider) and tmobile stores. Tmobile's 4g is nothing to write home about... 3-4 mbps at best. Uscell doesn't even support 4g, and their 3g was 100-200 kbps, while verizon's 4g was insanely fast (10-30 mbps upload and download). I didn't try their 3g, but wow!! Hope it's the same after 6 months.

@mattykinsx, good point about the airave. I was more interested in seeing signal levels since the phone was showing full bars. But alas, it's pretty easy to identify an airave from the debug menu too.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
They definitely were 1x. All the Android phones on Sprint will show 3G instead of 1x because that's how Sprint requested them to be programmed, even the AOSP phones. I checked a Blackberry that was right next to the Optimus S and it was showing 1x. And right down the block, there's the Verizon store with the Thunderbolt and I don't even have to describe the speeds I got on that thing. I swear, if these speeds are the way they are and no other company lowers their prices, I'm gonna grab a Blackberry Bold. At least then I'll have a separate excuse for why the data sucks.
[EVO 4G General] Sportsplayer612:
I agree. I've talked to multiple reps about this situation and told them I don't want anything for free, although they did credit me one month of data without me asking for it. I just told them I love Sprint's service and want it to get better and the only way is if I keep letting them know the data isn't working.