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[Nexus S General] atlp99:
different business models

I think the reason that they are still so tied together is that they use different business models.

Apple sells hardware; computers, iPhones, or iPads, Apple's goal is to sell hardware.

Google sells advertising, they make their money off of people using their services. The majority of Google's income still comes from selling advertising.

Apple uses Google's services because they are popular and they are the best available. Gmail is the number 2 email service, and maps is superior to any of the other search/ map products available to Apple. What is Apple going to replace Google Maps with if they removed it from iOS, Bing Maps? I just don't see that happening since Google Maps is a superior product (although Microsoft has been improving Bing recently).

Google realizes that the future of computing is increasingly mobile, and they do not want the control of access to that controlled solely by any one company. This is where Android comes into Google's business model. Google's main interest in Android is the same as their other services, Google wants people using the web so they can sell advertising.

Apple is clearly pissed that Android is cutting into Apple's sales of the iPhone and iPad. Google basically doesn't care how you access their services, so long as you are using them.

The two companies have different goals, because of this it is more likely that Apple would replace Google's services on iOS that Google would pull them. I think the closest that Google would get is what we have now with some features restricted for Android such as turn by turn navigation and the Gmail app on Android.
[Nexus S General] MO3iusONE:
If this even Nexus S related? Why is this in the Nexus S section?

I like my iMac, enjoy my Windows XP netbook, iPod Touch, Android Droid Pro and Android Nexus S.. just sayin' lol.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DrunkenWonton:
I have flashed the phone from the Stock Rogers 2.1 to ATT 2.2

now that Rogers 2.2 is out, I want to switch back to it. However, the kies does not detect my phone. I didn't know if the touchwiz thing would have been a problem, so I stock flashed my phone again to ATT 2.2, but same thing, still not detectable.

anyone with an answer or in same boat?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sixstringsg:
There is a CWM flashable Rogers 2.2 somewhere in the forum.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] aliwaqas:
Hi,

Android 2.2 Froyo has finally made it's way to Sprint's Samsung Transform. So far every thing has been reported as working. Here is the reference link for instructions and downloads etc.
[EVO Shift 4G General] RyteSyde:
This is more of an annoyance and not really a problem but curious to see if anyone has a workaround. I use SMS and EMail notification sounds and they work no problem. SMS comes in and it dings...that's it. Now with email I use a notification sound for incoming mail with my exchange server. New mail comes in, notification sound goes off as you'd expect. The difference being on the email it will continue to notify every 5 minutes until I open mail. I don't need to be reminded every 5 minutes. I don't use gmail or pop3 so I'm not sure if it does it with those as well or if it's Exchange specific. Anyone else get this and/or figured out how to limit it to a single notification?

[UPDATE] Figured it out. Just had to change the Update schedule from 5 minutes to Push mail. Thought I had that set already but apparently not. Now it notifies only once.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
Still not getting folks being so high up with LTE considering most people that inhabit these boards will use the alloted data in the first few days of the month ;)

3G seems fine for me and streaming higher band video content is a battery hog anyway. Speed is nice but IMO, a $30 3G unlimited data plan seems a far more pratical option for most people.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZuneNinja!:
Allotted data? What are you talking about? Correct me if i'm wrong but you are merely assuming that Verizon won't have an unlimited 4G data plan for smartphones. I have seen no information suggesting that there will be no unlimited plan available.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobbysteels216:
I hear that Verizon has plans to initially have unlimited LTE data plans for smartphones but they might change that in the future. I'm sure that Verizon's will throttle people's data if they reach 5 gb... Personally, I don't see why they don't simply charge extra for for LTE to allow it to be unlimited like Sprint does. I wouldn't mind paying 10 extra dollars a month for unlimited data from Verizon... I think that the problem with carriers is that they don't want people hogging their airwaves with their PS3, their laptop, and their little brother's iPod Touch tethered to the phone on their network with the "that's what your cable/dsl network is for" attitude. If they truly feel that way, they should start charging cable/dsl prices and remove the caps while using some of the money to build more towers so they won't have to worry about it. They have devices that they're getting ready to release that are capable of playing/streaming 1080p HD videos. I'd be pissed if I bought one of these smartphone//tablets and were only able two watch two or three videos the entire month. If they're gonna have devices that require a lot of bandwidth to reasonably perform to one's liking, the shouldn't release these devices until their networks are able to handle them being in the hands of the masses. It makes no sense to pay 40-50 dollars for internet at 4G speeds while paying 250-600+ for a device and have to go to find a hotspot to connect to wifi or connect to wifi at home.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
3G unlimited for $30 and LTE for $50 seems fare. That way, they get the revenue for folks using the service to update towers. I would say $40, but probably no way VZW would charge that for LTE.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobbysteels216:
If Verizon has unlimited LTE data for HTC Thunderbolt, they would get a lot of people to buy it. The question is would they get enough revenue to continue to keep it unlimited while upgrading their towers... It would be understandable if they put a 5 gb cap on the mobile hotspot feature because they wouldn't be able to sell their USB modems (which they charge mb and gb packages). But to not have unlimited LTE data from Verizon for a smartphone save the mobile hotspot feature is ridiculous imo. AT&T's LTE plans for the future include limited data and data speed to be purchased in tiers; Verizon can really keep them at bay with unlimited LTE data for strictly smartphones. The question is will Verizon compete directly with AT&T's LTE plans (match AT&T's plans). They reality is that they don't have to. They can make a more attractive unlimited LTE data plan and net more customers and "defectors" from AT&T while making them look like greedy money-hungry cornballs.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZuneNinja!:
Agreed bobbyseals. Verizon won't disappoint.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] setexascustoms:
Hopefully... :rolleyes:
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobbysteels216:
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/02/rumor-verizon-4g-unlimited-data-plans-to-debut-at-29-99/
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] two_cents:
if they allow me to keep 3g unlimited for 29.99 and make 4g an option I'll be happy cause there isn't many places covered by 4g anyway... I wont change from my incredible if its going to cost me 20 more a month
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madman34:
Agreed, and I live in 4g, and work on the LTE project.

Good one, I want the Thunderbolt for the device and not so much for the LTE. That said, yes I can sit here at the office and run our LTE USB and get 20 - 25 mbps and run up 5 gigs in short fashion then really start paying out the wazoo, but RevA EVDO at 2 mbps I can do just fine watching HULU or teathering Skype with video or whatever which is fast enough. I might give a few bucks more for the LTE if it is unlimited, but never buy myself into a plan that caps my data and makes me pay more just to get a speed boost that I just do not need now.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaddix2:
If 3g would actually give me the speed its supposed to I wouldn't need 4g at all. I rarely get over 200kbps down on att's hspa network.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
That would be dumb for them to charge same price as current data. How do they justify the 4G investment? that would be one red looking net present value business case ;)

My guess is $45 (30 +15 premium).
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] karnovaran:
Lets not forget Verizon is about to rake in tons of new subscribers while barely spending a dime in advertising (i*hone)
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobbysteels216:
+1
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigBonkers:
From the new BestBuy leak there will be a $30 unlimited option on thunderbolt. Which would make me get it over the iphone. $30 for 4g would be amazing.

Ive played with the thunderbolt and honestly you will only notice the 4g when downloading.On web pages not so much.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] owenw:
Hi there,

I'm trying to flash a specific ROM on my phone, and it's giving me a INVALID VENDOR ID error, when I use RUU. Is there a way around this at all? I realize this is a check, but I know the ROM is compatible with the phone.

...would an unsigned RUU for WM work?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] ceesheim:
search for goldcard :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] owenw:
Surely theres a method that doesn't mean messing with USB cables.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] ceesheim:
no , not for now.

only after hspl that will happen and that can take some time because the os is not fully hacked at the moment.
[Epic 4G General] air2k57:
I was coming from 2.2, wanted to go back to stock 2.1. Went through ODIN to load the DI18 stock modem/rom/kernel. Used same files before, but this time it failed on flashing for some reason. Anyways, now my device won't even power on. No Samsung logo, nothing. If I hold 1 and power. I can't even get to download mode. Plugging the USB cable while device is off doesn't even get the indicator light to come on, or even the battery charging logo thing. Ideas?
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
Did you try removing the battery, holding the power button, and then re-inserting the battery?
[Epic 4G General] air2k57:
Yea, just tried that :(, still nothing
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
Was the battery fully charged when you started the process?
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
Congratulations, I believe you have a true brick. Looks like a trip to the Sprint store.
[Epic 4G General] air2k57:
Battery was about at 90%. Yea, sucks.
[Epic 4G General] running_the_dream:
That is weird that the phone would go beserk if you had the Samsung drivers, ODIN and the DI18 files. I would try to pull the battery a couple more times alternating startups (i.e. try to boot into recovery, if that fails, pull battery, try to boot into download mode, if that fails, pull battery, try normal boot). If that doesn't work and you have a spare battery, try that battery. I would try everything before going to the store.
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
For future reference, you only need the di18 tar in pda to flash back to stock. It includes the modem and kernel already. The PIT file is used only when flashing individual components like the modem or kernel by themselves.
[Epic 4G General] air2k57:
Been trying it all morning. The Samsung logo doesn't even come on. It acts as if the battery is completely dead, no matter what you do. Download mode should have at least worked, I have never seen it happen.
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
If you can't get into download mode, your bricked. I'm not tryin to be a negative Nancy, just sayin. Don't worry, it happens to the best of us. I bricked an Epic once because I checked re-partition instead of Auto-Reboot.
[Epic 4G General] air2k57:
That's what I meant, I have the PIT and TAR files and I just flash, did it a number of times to this day with no issues. I just don't understand how it is possible to get to the point where download mode would not even work. I had my phone replaced 3 weeks ago for earpiece being blown too.
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
That's the nature of the beast. I always feel like I'm playing Russian Roulette with odin ever since I bricked that one.
[Epic 4G General] air2k57:
You know, I've had TEP for awhile, never used it. Took it off, then Earpiece goes out and now this/
[Epic 4G General] xcolt45:
..I had the exact same thing happen took to the Sprint store...forgot to clear out my sd card completely and found out it was rooted...but the techs at sprint can tell when the phone is bricked because a normal unrooted phone doesn't have that problem....try to bs your way thru ut otherwise TEP will not cover....sorry bro
[Epic 4G General] keysoh2:
it happened to me once back in the samsung moment days... Just clear ur memory card and take it to sprint...

tell them it just won't power on and you don't have another battery or charger to check what it is...
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
"Normal unrooted phones", can have that problem. I've seen someone plug their phone into a car charger and then ZAP! Instabrick. When I took mine back to the store, they didn't even question me as to what happened. They saw that it would not turn on, and swapped it out for another one.
[Epic 4G General] running_the_dream:
I think the op said that he/she deactivated his/her TEP though. Hopefully you are a premium Sprint user and can get an upgrade price for a new phone.
[Epic 4G General] air2k57:
I got it 30 day bounced to a new Epic basically. Didn't cost me $35 even :).
[Epic 4G General] running_the_dream:
Nice! Happy to hear it :-)
[Epic 4G General] travismorg:
I had a very similar experience, when the "Official" DK28 release first became available.

I was already running a custom rom, and found that I had the official DK28 required detection of the stock rom, so I figured, it would be no big deal to flash back. I followed the instructions explicitly, and bricked it.

After struggling with it for about 4 hours, I decided a trip to the Sprint store in the morning was the best remedy.

It was only like 10 days after I bought it, and I went back to the store where I bought it. I just said "It won't start up. I'm not sure what's going on with it." and the Sprint store rep proceeded to fumble around with it for about 10 minutes before she finally goes "Hmmmm, I've never seen anything like this before. Let me go grab another one from the back." and I got a 2nd headphone set/ac-usb adapter in the process. :D
[Android Apps and Games] Francislaremote:
Hi,

I'm trying to make a theme for my SGS and I would like to make a silent mode/vibrate switch, with Desktop VisualizeR so I can choose the size and the icon of the widget.

But I can find any "silent" option in the actions in DVR.

Does anyone have a solution for me ? Or any hint where to look ?

Thanks
[Desire HD General] dipster10:
ive just got my new HTC Desire HD and have a mirco sd 8gb memory card would i be able to put apps on my memory card and install them using astro
[Desire HD General] pwraggcan:
Yes. Just make sure menu/settings/applications/unknown sources box is checked.
[HD2 General] silver00:
I want to flash my HD2 but I am not sure if the simlock will cause any problems. I did some searching but i only find discussions about unlock your phone with a flash.

(Before somebody asks, I know, that a flash and a cooked rom will not unlock your phone.)

The most useful post i found is posted in the samsung forum: klick

It only refers to Galaxy S, but this might not apply for HTC HD2.

Could you tell me please: would cause a flash of simlock phones any problems (brick etc.)? I am referring to smartphones generally and my HD2 especially .

Thank you for your time and effort!
[HD2 General] tictac0566:
No problem at all, you can flash what you want.

Before flashing, it could be a good idea to check which stock ROM is on your device, in case you would have to go back for service issues. I don´t know what your HD2 from "3" comes with, I think I have seen in another thread that it is the HTC stock ROM - but with simlock, as you mention.

The only thing you might miss (don´t know if this applies to you) are sometimes some operator specific apps, or some pre-settings - especially for large operators which offer many different contract options.

But: At least basic settings for most operators in each country are existing in stock and custom ROMs. In the worst case, you´d have to make some settings manually.
[HD2 General] silver00:
Thank you for your answer. My HD2 comes with following software specifications:

OS-Version: 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82) / WM 6.5 Pro

Manila-Version: 2.5.19211619.0

ROM-Version: 1.66.407.1 (76641) GER

ROM-Date: 01/11/10

Radio-Version: 2.07.51.22_2

Protocoll-Version: 15.32.50.07U​

The HTC download should be _HTC HD2_RUU_Leo_HTC_GER_1.66.407.1_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe

As far as I know this is the official stock rom and not branded. In my opinion there should not be any specific apps or pre-settings.

My phone is only simlock but not branded.
[HD2 General] tictac0566:
Yes, the ROM you mention is exactly the one you should/could flash in case you would have to send your HD2 to a service center.

I myself keep exactly this ROM as a copy on my harddisk... you never know. :)

Happy flashing then!
[HD2 General] coldest~~~:
.51 ratio, no good to flash. better get a .50
[HD2 General] silver00:
I am sorry but I do not know what you mean with your post. What is . 51 ratio? Are you referring to the radion-version, which is instalt on my phone?

If yes, I have already flashed the lastest radio-rom on my phone. As far as I can remeber it's version is 2. 15.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n00bhackin:
Are there any ROMs out there that support both wired & wireless tethering while using both 3G and 4G?

The posts I see about it are people saying they can get one or the other working at either 3G or 4G, but not in all combinations.

Thanks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k2buckley:
Any sense ROM will support Wireless 3G and 4G tethering, using the "wireless tether app." Using the hacked sprint hotspot will only allow 3g wireless tethering, 4g is not unlocked with that. As for wired tethering, the phone's native USB tether will work on 3G, and not 4g I believe.(almost all ROMS have USB tether unlocked) To get around that, use PDANet (from the Market) or Easytether (from the Market). Both of those apps allow 3g and 4g wired tethering on any sense RoM. Hope that helps clear things up a little.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n00bhackin:
Thanks.

I wonder what causes the trouble for 4G wired tethering.

HTC Evo

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The program is designed to work, if it's not, we have a problem.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t.lynn.c:
Sorry I had to post this in general due to not having enough posts to post in development. Anyways the question I had was I just flashed the girlfriends vibrant to Bionix-v and everything seems very nice except when she goes to edit contacts it only comes up with the name current number and email. Theres no option to add numbers, picture etc... So was just wondering if there was a way to get back to the normal contact edit or if it was just built in Bionix like that for good.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] golmar88:
That is on contacts that are saved to your SIM. Contacts that are saved to google will allow you to fully edit them. So just back up all contacts to google and you'll be good to go. :cool:

P.S. This post belongs in general, that is why they made the new rule because sometimes these types of post's accidentally get posted in development (which is only for posting rom's and development of said rom's) ;)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t.lynn.c:
Ok well thanks for such a quick response, I guess my next question is with google sync on why does it not sync contacts from the sim card or is there a way to get it to do that. This is all kinda new to me dealing with the sim card as I myself run a rooted Epic and have not encountered anything like this.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hazard99:
I cant say why it doesnt sync contacts from the sim but wouldnt it just be easier to move the contacts over to google?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] golmar88:
OK, I found this and it worked. I hadn't realized this was an issue but here is the fix that worked for me. There may be an easier way (I would hope) but I don't know it. Hope it helps.

*copied from samsung support*

1. Open Contacts on your Galaxy S.

2. Menu -> More -> Import/Export -> Export to SD.

3. Menu -> More -> Import/Export -> Import from SD.

4. Choose to import contacts to your GMAIL account (this is the very important step!)

5. Wait until your phone has synced.

6. Open Gmail, go to your Contacts -> More Actions -> Find and Merge Duplicates

7. Wait and your phone will resync. (Optionally, go into Settings -> Accounts and Sync -> Uncheck and Check Sync Contacts to force resync)

From now on when you create a contact, just remember to create it for your Google account and not your Phone!

This method does create a .vcf file of your contact list on the SD but that can be deleted with the My Files app.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t.lynn.c:
Alright thank you I will have to try that method when she gets home and hopefully it works and she doesn't hate me for rooting her phone and losing contacts again lol.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] droiduzr2:
Hey Everyone,

I upgraded to Android 1.6 and rooted my phone.

All is working fine.

(I added the apps better keyboard and slide keyboard) days ago.

I JUST noticed that the default dialpad is missing the letters under the numbers that means if I have to spell a name using the dialpad I can't since I ONLY see numbers now.

Can someone shed some light on this?

How do I turn back on the T9 keyboard??? I think that's what I need to do, not sure.

The phone is an LG EVE.

THANKS!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] droiduzr2:
How Do I delete this thread?

I turned off the better keyboard and now the dialer keypad shows the letters.

Strange...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] antonio1475:
Write [SOLVED] at the beggining of the title.

:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] droiduzr2:
Most forums do not let you edit the title hence I did not look for that low tech solution :)
[Nook Color General] Canadoc:
Posting this here as I hope devs will see it.

I am told our NC is very similar hardware wise to the droid X.

If this is so and it is getting gingerbread, might this be easier to port given the fact nookie froyo is still a work in progress?

Presumably the TI drivers would be in it.
[Nook Color General] danbutter:
Not sure how accurate the hardware comparison is, but I saw that article too.

Forum link:

http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/droid-x-discussion/6294-pictures-gingerbread-droidx-not-port.html
[Nook Color General] Canadoc:
it has ti omap3630 we have 3621

the oc kernal all are using is based on the 3630...
[Nook Color General] dalingrin:
While the CPU is near identical the board is not. In addition, we are stuck with 2.6.29 source.
[Nook Color General] swm5126:
Yes they are very similar, same line (TI OMAP 36xx line). The NC is rocking the 3621, while the Droid X has the slightly higher clocked 3630.

If/when this gets released hopefully we can pull drivers and the like from it, which may help get CM7 on this thing finally?
[Nook Color General] wjohnson1186:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=871996
[Nook Color General] grandmasterlarry:
There is alredya video of Honeycomb on the nook!

http://www.androidcentral.com/video-honeycomb-nook-color

Im sure we will have it in time...