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[EVO 4G General] skillzo1:
Whats going to happen when the evo 3d comes out and more people sign to sprint....they better prepare instead of dealing with the issues when it happens.
[EVO 4G General] craigbailey1986:
Lol you ppl amaze me with these replies. I have looked at threads all over the internet about each phone company and they all have complaints about bad coverage in different areas...

Here's a thought, how about going with the carrier that suits your needs and gives you what you want.. its also common knowledge that service will not be the same for 2 ppl even if they are in the same house with the same phone.

It seriously not ok to have slow download speed but to insist they are not working on the problem because your area has not been fixed is complete bull s-hit!!

Sorry that your service is not up to par!! Hopefully they will get to your area next but complaining to customer service won't fix your problem over night, or make them move any faster for that matter...
[EVO 4G General] skillzo1:
You are really missing the points here.....most if not all of us has had great coverage and are in a highly populated/covered areas. Service was good but went to **** in nov, some even earlier.

As for them fixing the issue overnight, november was many nights ago. I really dont know what they are doing. I can only go by what they tell me, and what they kept telling me was your ticket is closed and i can offer you a blackberry or refurbished evo lol. And up until yesterday no one got any type of real answer from high positioned sprint employees. Now they say it will be months before the problem is fixed.

People should complain EVERYDAY for there poor service...**** they are paying PREMIUM for it. They better move faster or lose more customers. How do you expect people to stay and pay for a service they need/want and are not getting it.
[EVO 4G General] JakeT85:
I couldn't take it anymore, 5 months did me in. I jumped to Verizon and the Thunderbolt. It stinks becuase the evo 3d looked awesome; but service is what really matters. Hope they get it fixed for you guys, and to the guy that said Verizon isn't much more than Sprint he is right with the "premium data" add on it puts you just about ten bucks shy of a 450 minute, unlimited text, unlimited data plan. And for families Verizon's a la carte data add on is better than everything data families through Sprint so you don't have data for your ten year old. I'm happily surfing away again, hope you all get to join soon!
[EVO 4G General] misterzeno:
Ok i was used to the ****ty 3G speeds here in Houston, but my new office is in a great 4G area and today my 4G speeds are getting 200kbps down. This is getting annoying. I have been with Sprint a while but this is getting ridiculous, sadly its really starting to look better with the other evil carriers. And I cant even say sprint is the lowest cost anymore. What good is unlimited data with ****ty speeds.
[EVO 4G General] hypersonicx:
Like I also said a few posts back. My TMobile data connection was super slow in my areas. Waiting like 2 years to see if the problems would get fixed.

Went through plenty of phones as you can see in my sig everything from Touch Pro 2 all the way up to Nexus One and HD2s.

Constantly the same slow speeds for months.

Eventually just said **** IT and took the 2 year ETF that il be paying in payments and switched to Sprint.

Now get true 4G speeds. My ping be about 150 on average so il still end up getting my Comcast connection back on due to Sprint latency on video games. But downloads be hella fast on Sprint up to 1MB/s.

Long story short, just go with whats best for your area. TMobile 4G might be stronger as apposed to Sprint in your area.

Im sure the Evo can sale it self easyly for at least $250 - $200
[EVO 4G General] 4redstars:
2nd day after being told things should be improved and I'm getting very good speeds again. Chicago Sprint service is giving me continued hope.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Pretty much.. my VZW bill is $13 more a month. The only reason I havent cancelled my Sprint line yet is im thinking of putting a tablet on it
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I haven't even thought about that. That's a good argument. Maybe Sprint can answer it by giving me one at new customer price?
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
You think they would? I'd love the 3D. I was forced to upgrade on the first :/
[EVO 4G General] asoong:
@mattykinsx - would you please elaborate? I have been getting speeds like this on both sense and CM7. Are you saying my crappy 4G speed is a hardware issue? I'm on HW0003 if that makes a difference.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
The 4G issue is definitely not phone-specific. I've been getting better speeds on 3G than 4G (they're both bad).
[EVO 4G General] skillzo1:
Sad to say but true.....they could give it to you for free, and in 3wks of having it, it will be useless. You will he right back in the same type of thread accept in the evo 3d forum saying the same things. Unless the network is fixed. I wanted to stay for the evo 3d badly. But dont see things changing soon....Evo 3d, awesomest phone, sprint barely usable service, doesnt make sense to stay. 2 wks of owning the 3d i will be heated i cant ise my phone the way it should be and leave. I wish i could buy the 3d and use it on vzw.
[EVO 4G General] asoong:
Whew! Thanks!
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
There's a GSM version that you could take to AT&T/T-Mobile (Not sure about the 3G bands). But if they gave me an Evo 3D, I'd shut up and take it. I would drop this issue for the 4 months until it should be fixed. It's not even bribery. I think we all deserve this. And if they don't want to give us an Evo 3D, at the very least they should give us a Nexus S 4G.
[EVO 4G General] skillzo1:
I dont think i could do it. 1 day with dial up speed feels like a wk. I use data way to much to wait for it. I also pay not to wait for it.
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
yup yup, its all up to sprint if they want me to stay. they have until the 3D is released to get them fixed otherwise im gone. theres no way im going to buy a new phone thats on a network that wont allow it to be used as it can be used.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I'd say that's a pretty good ultimatum; We should tell them that. It's all logical. The Evo 3D is going to be released way before the towers will be fixed.
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
thats what i told Christie last time she called and in an email
[EVO 4G General] :
Lol... Sorry but I like to check on this thread every once in a while to feel better about paying my sprint etf. Getting a replacement phone is not a logical argument whatsoever. I know you're mad and want some form of compensation, but how does any sort of phone upgrade make any sense? You have a perfectly capable device for both the 3g and 4g networks. The problem is the network itself. You deserve a partial data plan credit for each month but not a new device or a faster upgrade.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
It's compensation and incentive to stay. So far they've done nothing to keep me as a customer other than promise the issue will be fixed in up to 4 months and try to "remind me" of why Sprint is the best. If they want me as a customer, they'll have to prove it.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
Fred, consider all the time and effort you've put into this. Unless you're really bored, is it really worth it? (rhetorical question). If you're able to find the current level of service acceptable, say for the next 6 months, then stay with sprint. Otherwise, it's time to consider other options, don't you think?
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
I think for those of us who were forced to use our upgrade on the 1st or won't be able to upgrade to the 3D, this is just an excuse to try and get it. However I'm sure there are a lot of people who this doesn't apply to and are just upset with the speeds and Sprint's poor handling of the situation. For me, yes the speeds are terribad and having to go four months w/o decent data would be hell but it'd be worth it if I knew I'd be getting a Evo 3D. After all, the speeds wont be bad for two years and the 3D is a phone that would be awesome for a whole two years. This is just where I'm coming from, having to get an Evo which I believe will have run it's course when the 3D is released and all.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I'm not using it as an excuse for a free phone. Look at like this: on average,you finish paying back the cost of your phone 12-14 months into your contract. They're supposed to lower your bill after that because part of your monthly bill is for paying the difference between the retail price of the phone and the subsidized price (price you paid). But they don't lower the price after. On top of that, we're paying for premium data that doesn't exist. My 4G is slower than my 3G, and to add insult to injury, I was never offered credit for my account. I had to ask and even then I was told I have to wait until the issue is resolved. CheezyNutz gets $50 a month back until the problem is fixed. If that's the case, and assuming I will be paid for 8 months (assume the towers are upgraded in 4 months like they say), that's 50 x 8 = $400, which is almost the full price of a phone.

Now you see my logic? It's a neverending story. Inb4 "THEN JUST LEAVE!", I know they'll fix it eventually.
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
Na Fred I feel you. I understand where you're coming from, I was merely throwing out my situation.
[EVO 4G General] :
A device upgrade or gift is still not a logical argument whatsoever. That's like saying they owe you approximately $400 for this trouble so you deserve to have 200 happy meals purchased for you at McDonald's. I believe they owe everyone a credit on their account against the data plan fees, but bringing up the idea of a new phone just makes your argument and your dealing with sprint lose all credibility. It's hard for them to argue with "I want a credit on my account for data I am paying for and unable to use because of your network" but its easy for them to dismiss your argument every time you suggest a new device or upgrade because its somewhat unrelated. Again, I think you deserve credit for being the most vocal critic of a terrible network that nobody in the media is addressing, I just think you should approach it in a more logical way. Get the bill credits and save the difference toward whatever device you like.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I think it's fair but alright, whatever you say. I never asked them for a new phone. I only asked for credit. Now I have to sit here and wait until this issue is finished in God knows how long before I get credited. Ill say it straight up: I feel like I'm being ripped off and there's nothing I can do about it. I don't want to leave them, I really don't. But the least they can do is give me my damn money back.
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
Alright guys I need some advice. I've spoke to techs, "Sprint Specialists" and have only been helped once. According to Sprint, the issues I called about a few weeks ago, (my poor 3G speeds) have been resolved however I'm still getting ~90 kbps on average.

I've decided to go a head and leave Sprint however they will not waive my etf. The techs I speak to on the phone say the speeds should be fine and that I should take my phone in for a new one, even though I already have -_- To make matters worse, the reps at the store look at me like I'm dumb when I talk about speeds and speed tests. I show them all the tests I've ran and run some right in front of them but they seem to just not get it. Hopefully you guys have some advice for me. I'm going in tomorrow and am going to run some speed test on the Evo's there, (might as well do the Epic as well) but I'll make sure they're not connected to an Airwave.
[EVO 4G General] :
advice: pay your etf and leave sprint. they didn't do **** for me. i paid a $93 bill for 28 out of 30 days of service i am not using (foolish of me) and paid a $140 etf and paid my new $84 verizon bill (450 minutes $39, approximately same as i had with sprint, no texts - this is currently an option with verizon, switched to google voice for free unlimited texts, unlimited data $29, no premium data fee, plus chicago taxes and fees).

other option if you're on a family plan like some people, get a part time job and pay for your own cheaper verizon plan rather than have your parents pay for your sprint plan.

the improvement in network quality is like night and day, so much better. a device is useless without a mobile network to operate on. people saying they just use WiFi while at home is comical - you're paying for comcast or whatever home internet so how do you feel like you're getting some sort of bonus from this? sprint will always be second rate while they're relying on the solid verizon network for roaming. it's NOT expensive even if they for some reason have that reputation.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Do NOT pay your ETF, they aren't providing YOU with the service that THEY agree to with the contract.

Talk to the retention department.
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
Problem is, when I go into the store and show them my speed tests, they don't know anything about it. They always just tell me that there isn't any issues or outages. It's frustrating.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Agreed. Email Dan@sprint.com. They can do it for you if retentions won't. The guy I'm dealing with said if I want to leave he'll see about waiving my ETF.
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
Cool, thanks for the advice. I'll check it out.
[EVO 4G General] Seagullbeagle:
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/motion-data-wireless-0412.html

The nerds got this.
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
So I have to go into the Sprint store tomorrow and was hoping someone could let me know how to disconnect a device from an Airwave?
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
You cant disconnect from it. If the phone is in range, it will connect. THe way to tell if you are connected to an airave, make a phone call. As soon as you hit the send button, bring the phone to your ear. If you hear three short beeps before it starts ringing, then you are connected to an airave.

Either way, if you feel you are connected to one, take the store employee, walk outside and about 50 feet from the building and then do your test.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
You can't. But you can tell if it's connected to an Airave by making a call. If it beeps 3 times then starts dialing, you're connected to one.
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
Gotcha. Hopefully I'll have better luck w/ the reps today.
[EVO 4G General] goku39501:
For what it's worth, I had craptacular data speeds for months and they just resolved themselves @ the end of March. Not only are the 3g speeds better than they've ever been, I found pockets of (unofficial) 4g. Could just be coincidence or maybe not.

Sent from space, where no one can hear you scream
[EVO 4G General] TomWaddle:
i had a bit of a slump there as well but lately it has been getting better

my fingers are crossed!
[EVO 4G General] 4redstars:
I'm on day 3 of back to almost normal data speeds. Being in such a highly congested area that I work (Downtown Chicago across from the Willis Tower) I'm happy with my speeds now.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I'm still barely hitting 200 kbps in a lot of places. I'm still stuck on 1x by my house. And they still have to get approval to work on the tower. I hope they fix this everywhere and not just by my house.
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
I have a new Evo coming tomorrow because that's all tech support could tell me to do. However after I left the Sprint store my data speeds soared. I'm averaging just under 2 mbps. Will it last? Who knows but I may still jump ship to big red. A plan for myself would be cheaper than what I'd be paying with Sprint.
[EVO 4G General] UCChemE05:
I've been having all kinda of datasheet problems. Probably averaging 50-90kbps d/u during mid-day hours. Its pretty pathetic. When I called Sprint technical support, they only thing they said they could do for me is do a data wipe and then give me a new phone if that doesn't work.
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
Sounds like what I've been going through. I haven't been able to get a tech again that could offer me anything more than "update your profile" and "completely wipe the phone" Sprint just seems to keep throwing phones at me instead of admitting there must be a network problem.

My spectacular speeds I had an hour ago decided to go back to a crawl -_-
[EVO 4G General] UCChemE05:
Yeah, I'm trying a couple different ROMs right now to satisfy the "datawipe" need from Sprint while I'm off work for the week. I'm getting better speeds but I think its b/c I'm home and not at work. Due to the work discount I get, the changing carriers and paying increased plan cost doesn't warrant a change... yet.
[EVO 4G General] Systemfraud:
Well, I think I'm finally going to jump ship to VZW. I have had this Evo since release date, and since then my 3G speeds have been 300 kbps. At first I figured eh, no bug deal, I'll wait it out, but almost a year later the speeds have literally not changed for me. It really sucks because I love Sprint and their plans, and I also love the Evo. I'm just fed up with them and their crap, lying non-stop. Hopefully in the near future they step their game up. I'd be more than happy to come back. Hopefully they'll waive my ETF as I don't have the service they promised me.
[EVO 4G General] UCChemE05:
300kbps? That's pretty good in most areas (though not sure where you are). Verizon people in my area rarely get speeds above 300.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
That's horrible overall. Good is 800+ kbps. I'm envious of people who are actually able to do things with their phones besides make calls, text, and go on Facebook.
[EVO 4G General] Nate14:
I figured I'd chime in w/ an update. My speeds since early yesterday have been anywhere from ~100 kbps to 1200 kbps. It's just as frustrating as constant slow speeds. Seems like my speeds are only fast when I'm not using my phone and am just running a random speed test T_T But I 'spose its an improvement.
[EVO 4G General] UCChemE05:
Really? Guess my area really is aweful for dataspeeds then (sprint and verizon) :mad:
[EVO 4G General] Systemfraud:
300 is high for me... my speeds are usually 120kbs. I've even witnessed it be slower than dial up. :/
[EVO 4G General] dean_fx:
Before MOD:

Test Date: Apr 14, 2011 1:21:11 pm

Connection Type: Cell

Download: 141 kbps

Upload: 566 kbps

Ping: 317 ms

After MOD:

Test Date: Apr 14, 2011 1:24:47 pm

Connection Type: Cell

Download: 505 kbps

Upload: 436 kbps

Ping: 162 ms

Worked for me. THANKS! ;-)
[EVO 4G General] UCChemE05:
What "MOD" did you do?
[EVO 4G General] dean_fx:
By mod I was referring to the modification i made to the hosts file that was posted earlier in the topic
[EVO 4G General] roge1381:
I am having the same 3g problem.. im so upset grr
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
Lol i average 700 kbps. Thats normal here... :/
[EVO 4G General] UCChemE05:
I kinda figured. I did that a while back. Seemed to improve speeds for a week or so then back to crap. Could have been coincidence...
[EVO 4G General] decalex:
Are you talking about the mod in the 2nd post? >> Here

xda search is sucking right now. But ya, I'm willing to try anything. I'm consistently getting 10-15kB/s down, 30kB/s up. (and I don't understand why the up is higher..).
[EVO 4G General] jedil1c1ous:
I've gone thru slow speed he-ll for awhile now also. Fluctuates a lot throughout the day from one test to the next. Last time I called Sprint about it they admitted that a few 3G towers were down in the area, which means everyone near those towers were getting bounced to the next closest with 3G data and the result is congestion. They put in a work order for one of them as it wasn't reported yet until my inquiry. I feel like they may have data towers go down constantly then in my area because it still sucks to this day and I don't want to keep calling.

Oh, and the one tower they were aware of as down was waiting to be fixed it was already going on more than 2 weeks I believe. Nice.
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
lol i got up this morning and ran a speed test and got 1400k down and 600k up i was thinking YES they got there **** fixed then i realized i was on the damn airave :mad:

unplugged the airave and boom 12k down 5k up :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] 461oceanblvd:
I tried this and my speeds stayed consistent :(
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
Still sitting at 300kbps or less down.

Edit...haven't even gotten anything besides -0 -0 and 999 ping for the past hour.
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
My speeds were absolutely HORRIBLE today. The max I got today was 8kb down, and 10kb up. And I was within half a block of a tower, and had full bars the whole day. Absolutely pothetic.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Swung by my gf's neighborhood in Staten Island, which isn't far from my college. 50 kbps down. What the hell is this? This is pathetic. Literally maybe 2 months ago, my 4G speed in the cafeteria of my campus was 15 Mbps. Now it's 2.1 Mbps.
[EVO 4G General] beesneazy:
It's like every time I step into this thread ... it's the same people, saying the same thing ... over and over and over and over again. HAHAH
[EVO 4G General] beesneazy:
"Guys, AGAIN, I'm only pulling in 50kbps in 3G. Sprint said it might be a while, like a month or two ... AT LEAST! Until then, ill continue to tell you about my 50kbps every single day for no real reason. Maybe ill get a phone ... or some credits."

"Breaking news; I hit some legit speeds ... but I'm back to 50kbps. Guess it was too good to be true."

"Guys, 50kbps ... **** .... same as yesterday. Get back at ya tomorrow."

"Guys, email update - no real update."

"****. They don't seen to want to give me a new phone. 50kbps still. I hate Sprint."

"Guys, there is this tower ... with weeds around the base ... ****. No activity. ****."

"Guys, 50kbps. STILL. Why am I still here? Dunno. LOL will report back tomorrow."
[EVO 4G General] beesneazy:
LOL that totally looks like me!
[EVO 4G General] beesneazy:
Minus the hearing aid ... of course, duh. Hearing impaired is so last year. Not to mention I clearly, duh,hear the whining day in and day out.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
yeah. this thread is getting a little ridiculous at this point.
[EVO 4G General] mutepoint:
What I noticed is the loudest and most frequent voice here is not the primary phone on a family account. Said person apparently has almost daily communications with Sprint concerning "his" account. I don't know how Sprint CS even takes this individual seriously, unless he is misrepresenting himself as the primary phone on the account. He has mentioned in the past that his dad is the primary and is tired of hearing about these issues. So obviously this account is in no danger of being cancelled anytime soon. That being said... I certainly feel this individual has legitimate complaint issues - it's just that he really isn't in position to do anything concrete about it other than giving his dad back his phone and getting his own phone/plan from a carrier.

And in closing I would like to say that I too had crappy service - but I discovered my phone was locked in CDMA only mode, and when I changed it to Automatic - I immediately started getting EVDO speeds again for the last month.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
If you're talking about me, that's not what I said. I'm the primary line on the account, my dad has a Verizon BB Storm 2 from his company; he just pays the Sprint bill. I'm a college freshman looking for a job, so it's a little understandable that I would get some help from my parents with bills.

So unsubscribe from the thread. Herp derp