yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate General] distortionist:
Hello everyone. I want to thank you all for this site, I have learned a great deal here and appreciate all your efforts. I have a question that many new comers have asked and they have been told to go read, so thats what I will do. I want you to know tho that its very hard when you have a baby, and very little time. I also want you to know that the only times I am really productive getting somewhere with my phone is staying up till like 4 am because everyone is asleep and I have the time needed to dedicate to all this reading, trying and learning.

I am not complaining, in fact I am grateful because I am getting somewhere thanks to your help, which has been more valuable than all the help Samsung and Rogers have given me washing their hands clean and leaving me with a defective phone. My problem has not been solved just yet, but I think a 2.2.1 rom will fix my problem. Ill keep reading and trying, ill get there.

I suggest you guys have a wikipage with a table with all the roms, what versions of android they are, what kernels, modems, etc they work with ( or not work with ), bugs, features, something all in 1 page for easy access. This would make it easier for people to access information. The easier it is the more people will use them and come here, the more ideas you will have, the more testers, its a win win situation!

I have been to the pages for all the roms, some of them tell you the bluetooh voice dialing is not working, most don't, id have to go looking for my answer. I have learned that for instance it seems people do not have an issue with it with froyo 2.2.1 but again, some roms tell you in the main page its 2.2.1, others don't.

I can't grasp all the information staying up at night till 4 am. Its the only time I have. I almost had a heat attack when I thought I bricked my phone, I can't afford another one. If all the important information is right there on 1 page, like links to the usb drivers, tools, roms, kernels, everything. Have the instructions to flash. Have a table with all the roms, their versions, what versions of kernels, modems, etc, they do ( or dont ) work with. maybe even some of the table cells are clickable, for instance bugs, click on it and a window pops up with a list of them.

I know all this information is in here somewhere. Thanks to everyone for it, but it needs to be on 1 page. Please make it easier for people who are new to this. You will benefit as well as them. Looking forward to being able to use voice dialing. I think it will be working by tomorrow or after tomorrow thanks to you guys. I could have done it in a day if all the information was right there :p.

Thanks for reading.
[Captivate General] vunuts:
Try searching.

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I897
[Captivate General] distortionist:
I have that bookmarked. It is also a sticky in this section.

But it doesn't say for instance which ones are 2.2.1, or which ones have the terrible voice dialing over bluetooth..

I do search and end up with over 15 tabs...

I am getting by, I am just saying it could be organized better for everyones benefit. It could be made so someone who has never done this before can get it done in a couple of hours if even, without keeping asking you the same questions here. I understand why people keep asking to recommend a ROM. It is not they they do not search, not all of them anyway. Things can be better organized.
[Captivate General] vunuts:
I hear what you're saying, I think it's just that within the course of a month, about 20 ROM's have been released, if not more. And no one has had time to update the wiki.
[Captivate General] diablo009:
+1

The thing is that its not just the number of ROMs, but also the number of versions that are released. It would be a real pain and an added overhead for anyone maintaining it.

Also note that most devs are working too, and doing this in their free time. The little time they have to spare is taken up for making improvements. But they do release changelogs to look into.

If anyone has time, I would suggest they take it up to create a wiki and maintain it, rather than relying or asking the devs to do it.
[Captivate General] Madtowndave:
Try capfaq.com it has a ROM table section, and I've used it alot.

Same issues with being 100% up to date, but it's the best Rom table format I've seen.

i897 running Cognition 3.02
[Captivate General] nickm50:
http://www.capfaq.com/w/ROM_Table

Looks like they have updated it!
[Captivate General] distortionist:
Thanks guys, I will check that table out tomorrow.
[Captivate General] Madtowndave:
It'd be nice if there was a modem chart as well. I know there are modems in the modem thread

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=835272

...but near as I can tell it's not up to date, or at least the first page is not up to date (ie base Cognition runs on JL1 and Andromeda on JL2, but aren't on the first page).

If anyone knows a good and current modem reference guide, please let me know.

I can't complain too much because obviously things change all the time and it's a PITA to constantly update info...I'd volunteer but I got a 2 year old and baby 2.0 due in April. :eek:
[Captivate General] diablo009:
made me lol at the versioning of baby
[Captivate General] Madtowndave:
Yeah it's like Richter Scale difference at least 0 to 1, and 1 to 2 kids...people that have more than 2 are either really bad at birth control, Catholic, or gluttons for punishment.
[Captivate General] juliobahar:
And I thought I was the only one!

Thanks pal for making my day...
[Captivate General] distortionist:
I bricked my phone :(
[Captivate General] nickm50:
How? What happened?
[Captivate General] distortionist:
I have no Idea what I did wrong, my goal before I started was getting voice dial over bluetooth working for me, its essential to me. It started with trying to install paragon, as per http://www.capfaq.com/w/ROM_Table mentioned above.

I was stock rogers 2.2 so I wiped it clean, and tried the update thing, it didnt work. The only step I skipped was flash to stock and the master clear since it was 2.2 recently and I did the factory wipe. It did not work but I did not brick anything just yet. I figured most people tell you to flash with the one click odin which puts stock at&t on it. I did that and the phone stopped going into download and recovery, it did not stop completely i have gone into download and recovery a few times after that but it was a battle with my phone, since it was booting, I used adt instead which worked like a charm. at&t rom was not happy on my phone, it was going into at&t reboot loops where it would just reboot the bios over and over. after trying and trying it would boot android, i was trying to fix it but each time it restarted the reboot loop would kick off. I could not go to recovery or download mode till i finally got back into the OS and used adt to tell it to go to download mode where i reflashed my stock rogers.

My phone now had at&t logo on boot before rogers, which is not that bad but i had read you can get rid of it, i tried going into download mode with the buttons but didnt try too hard, adt was easier.

I was following these instructions :

http://www.mmacleod.ca/blog/2011/01/removing-the-att-boot-screen-from-a-samsung-captivate/

it wanted me to use odin to flash a file. I used my oden 1.3, i think he says oden 1.0, I didn't think it would make a difference.

Odin started to flash and said fail. I got the screen with "android ! computer", I have been there before when I first ever tried using odin and had to fight with my phone to get to download mode at the time ( this was before at&t ever came close to the phone, i never used odin before so i probably had trouble because of inexperience ).

anyway, this time no matter what I do I cannot go to download mode, I plan on making a jig today if i find someone who sells resistors in this little town.

any help would be appreciated. I dont want to put any more roms on my phone, i just want it to work. I am worried. Ill wait till samsung releases 2.2.1 I just want my phone back to the way it was when I bought it :(
[Captivate General] nbs11:
As the person who write most of the documentation for Team Komin (the developers who make Andromeda), I would say this would be an immense pain. copying all of our information from the website, formatting it into wiki form and then posting it would be very time consuming.
[Captivate General] clemmie:
True, but once done, it would be much easier to maintain and navigate. There is going to be a lot of crossposting and people asking for insight and advice.

I'm sure we all understand the search feature in the forum, but to be honest things change topic within a thread, and where someone asks a question that is somewhat unrelated and gets a very good answer, it is not always apparent by poking through page after page of posts to find that nugget of gold. I mean, searching for 'kernel' will give literally thousands of hits. A wiki would be much better in terms of 1. Where you are starting out from 2. what you need to do what you want 3. where to find these things, and 4. maintaining updates and version revisions.

I really appreciate all the work people do here, and I have had to find everything I wanted to know the 'hard' way, but as Android grows in popularity and market percentage, more and more people are going to come here looking for this information. Pobably better to do it sooner than later.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] abhishek_turbo911:
Well, I tried 2 2gb cards for creating a gold card on my HTC Legend running on Froyo.

I formatted the sd card on the phone.

and here's what i did in steps

And yes, i did add the space between cat and /sys

h**p://i54.tinypic.com/2uzzbpi.jpg

-e-

Looks like im not allowed to post link :| Anyways , plz plz plz do check out the "link" by replacing the * with t PLZ

Thanks a lot !
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] yguns76:
What is the make of your 2GB card?

I used the unlockr method and it worked first time.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] abhishek_turbo911:
Both the cards were of 2gb capacity. One was the one that i got along with the mobile and the other one was of 'Strontium' make.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] abhishek_turbo911:
Update: Just tried with a 8GB Transcend that i just bought it. All of the abouve cards were foramtted on the phone.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bur2000:
I don't think this has something to do with the card you're using. The script isn't able to find the mmc1 file which should be located on the phone.
[Epic 4G General] Elite11b:
First off let me say that this is not against Sprint or Samsung (shocker). I know my way around a computer but am no way a developer. Before I ever loaded a rom I read and did my research it took me betweem 24 to 48 hours before I felt confident enough to root and flash and if I had any questions I searched the forums for a solution. Its not hard. Now here comes the complaint. I know they say there are no stupid questions but damn, I see the same question over and over again when there are easily found answers right in front of your face. Don't be lazy and read, no one one here gets paid to answer your questions that have already been answered. I'm not saying there aren't legitimate questions because there are plenty of them and that's not what is bothering me at all. I guess what I'm trying to get at is do the effing research take your time and you will figure it out, and stop asking what is the best rom it is the most worthless question on here because no one can give you the right answer. One more thing if you do run into a problem try and figure it out before running to the computer and then maybe you could actually contribute. That's all sorry for such a long post.
[Epic 4G General] compuw22c:
Couldn't agree more. I've been a longtime member with a very low post count. Unless you're the first or second person to download a rom and notice a secific bug to report, the community is large enough that very rarely do you need to post as someone else already has.

Not to mention its a self perpetuating problem. If less people were posting the same thing 10 times, there would only be 1/10th the amount of posts to read through to find your answer to begin with.
[Epic 4G General] ms79723:
A lot of people say that, and yeah, people need to do some research first or something...but for some people..they really aren't being lazy or anything, they just really dont know that thats what they are supposed to do.

Let me put it like this..I saw this on my facebook yesterday. Someone I know was asking how somebody got their phone to look they way it did (the guy took a screenshot of his Vibrant with a Gingerbread theme). The guy told him to either ask me or to come to xda. Now, the guy who asked had a Hero and doesnt know what rooting is...he probably doesnt even know how a forum (or really, how this forum) works. So when he gets here, the first thing he'll do is register and make a thread asking that question. Since he'd be a new user, he wouldn't know how many times the question has been asked, hell, he wouldnt even really know where to look. It'd be his only question and to him, he thinks that he'll be able to get the answer and leave and its done.

Now, thats the only time I say we should tolerate such behavior. but for users that have been on here a while and have been posting and contributing, there's no excuse.
[Epic 4G General] AndrewZorn:
Typical rant.

You opened a new thread, clogging the front page just like those you hate.

The words you speak will never truly reach those who don't read before posting... by definition.

Waste of time and space, get over yourself.
[Epic 4G General] Quis89:
Why does this bother people so much. Ignore the threads/questions if you have an issue with them. Some people aren't aware of the resources. Being a prick about it doesn't help. These same rants have been done over and over and over...
[Epic 4G General] SpamDel:
What a SHOCKER! Another typical "non-typical" rant.

But, you know, you're right. No one should be allowed to post until they've read all 3000+ posts in this forum. No one is allowed to ask other's opinions on the best ROM. No one is allowed to think differently than you.

Wanna know why the HTC side is so good? It's not because HTC releases source code (You should have seen the community in the early days before anyone released code). It's because the users are helpful. They contribute. They don't rant.

You, and users like you, are the reason the community is falling apart. Get in there and answer some questions. Contribute. Post to the useful threads so they stay close to the top. Add to the Wiki. Don't sit around and complain. These forums are for everyone, not just you.

You have only 12 posts, and the only thing you can contribute is "restart your phone" or "use a different USB cable?"

Here's my plea for the mods to lock this thread before we spiral out of control. What do you mean, it's too late?
[Epic 4G General] SpamDel:
Or, you could post a like to the wiki, pointing the noobs in the right direction. Answer the question and the thread falls to the bottom, and useful stuff with high post counts rise to the top.

Here's an example:

"Hey man, totally get where you're coming from. Rooting seems tricky, but it's not. Here's the guides in the wiki. It's got most of your questions answered. The search is useful if you can't find it there. Glad to have you on XDA.

But I guess it's much more useful to post inane responses on useless threads. Crap floats.
[Epic 4G General] JettMartinez:
I don't buy that at all. If you've been on the internet more than 10 minutes, searching should always be your first instinct.
[Epic 4G General] warrior420:
flat out, most people just dont even know what to search for, keywords will get you the right information, but also knowing the key words is what is troubling the new people.

I'm also one of those old members with years of lurking experience, because i know to search. But, at the same time, i don't tell people to do it. He'll i barley give advice... Mainly because i just come here, give rep, and get what info I need and then leave.

Let the forums grow i say... the more questions are asked, the easier they can be answered later, because of the keywords aspect. If someone doesnt know the keywords, they will ask a question with wrong ones, and then get corrected. and later down the line, someone searching with the same wrong keywords can find the answer... At least i hope it works out like that, i would like to think it does to some degree...

Anyways... my 2c
[Epic 4G General] mxcoldhit:
The only problem I have with searching is this: my laptop crashed a while back so I haver to search with the phone and xda app. The xda app search sucks. It brings up irrelevant posts. So since i can't use the search feature, unless I go to the site through the web browser, I just read the wiki and search post by post lol. I am for the side that says, if you don't like the post don't read it. Be helpful, not insane. Some attitudes on here are equivalent to some one coming up to you on a street, new to the town, and asking where mcdonalds is, and some of your responses would be: Look up in the sky for the big f?%#ing golden arches before I shot you in the head with my glock. That is a little over board. I say search, but if the didn't don't get mad.

Sent from my Shoe.... I mean my Samsung Epic http://mobilepi.wordpress.com/
[Epic 4G General] ms79723:
Man, more people are familiar with school than the internet...and in school you usually ask the teachers questions before you whip out your book to find the answer. Most people also try to act like themselves online like they do in real life...and since in a real life situation there more likely to ask a question than search for the answer...so first instinct would probably be asking that question, that is, if you arent used to forums (specifically this one).
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Very serious business.
[Epic 4G General] Xerloq:
This.

When you see question, give an answer. At least point them to the wiki so they can learn the things to search for.
[Epic 4G General] RushAOZ:
I have more of a problem with the **** stains that walk in and flame you than with noobies posting the same questions again and again. In fact im pretty sure there are more posts accumulated bashing noobs than there are noob question posts. Swing that pendelum the other way. Your the problem. Stfu and contribute or don't enter the post. Better yet log out. Usually the ones that ***** are the ones that spend way too much time on here. Only ones that get to complain are devs cuz we owe it to them :-)
[Epic 4G General] HeXeD:
+1....100%

This is just about the most typical rant you can find on this board.. 1000 miles away from non typical
[Epic 4G General] Mushmaster:
Can a brother get a carriage return?
[Epic 4G General] done12many2:
Failing to search occurs in ANY forum out there. The difference with the Epic scene is we have more self-proclaimed moderators than any board I am a member of. There are simply too many people trigger happy to call out a “noob” who may or may not know what it is that they are looking for.

It’s a shame that we are so quick to assume that someone is lazy.

I am here several times a day. More often than not, you will see folks spending more time correcting other’s forum posting etiquette than actually helping or contributing. In the other forums I frequent (mostly cars), the members actually help one another and asking questions, regardless of them previously posted, is no problem at all.

Go figure, the forums where mistakes cost A LOT more money in damages is stress-free compared to one that can almost always be fixed with a good old odin.
[Epic 4G General] Elite11b:
I definitly feel like an ass for posting this in the first place. I guess I should have been more specific when I posted. I apologize to anyone I offended. I have no problem helping anyone that needs help it just aggravates me when people ask a question one a thread that was answered on the previous page. But whatever I honestly don't give two squirts what people think about me.
[Epic 4G General] done12many2:
I think you were saying what you felt and there is no harm in that. You were not out of line in the way you said it. It was simply something you felt like expressing.

I don’t believe your last sentence though. It contradicts your first sentence.
[Epic 4G General] Elite11b:
No it's true I just regret not being more specific about what I was saying. Anyway life is full of contradictions ;)
[Epic 4G General] aleph23:
"carriage return"?? Old school, I like it.
[Epic 4G General] Krazy_P@:
This is sooo a typicial rant nemore, yes we need a new mod, we could also use some politeness (spell checking?) And yes maybe a read me first disclaimer when joining xda, but seriously for every time I see a stupid question I also see 5 ppl flaming dude instead of bringing knowlage 2 them, and don't allways help when I can but also I don't jump down ppl's throats and got off on a rant about how lame "nebs" r and how they should be banashed from xda because for all u know that newb sum1 just flamed gives up and never devolped that kick ass rom that worked out whatever bug was holding back whatever was stoppin blah, I hate myself for this rant and my last job was a scada devoloper (scada stands for system control and data analisis) so I am quite experinced with computers and code n such but just started the adroid trip and honestly wanna contribute 2 the epic sceen but under the way things are going on xda idk how possible its gonna be for devolopers 2 keep doing what they are doing if everyone is flamin newbs instead of givin props 2 devolpers... anyways I just got off a horable 12 hour shift n seeing this thread just makes me wanna laugh @ what (not tyipical is) and how it seems epic owners tend 2 be both sides of the extreams of niceness... developrs and dicks who feel entiteled 2 it all, oh wait there are those that are in the middle
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Quick one this time I hope... so shep211 appears to have temp banned (again) one of the most ruthless flamers, and deleted both his posts and mine... thanks shep! I went off, but ask wdm, its getting really old with the negativity, that said it was a wasted post, should have just flagged him... BUT, there were a few others with the same disdain for flaming new people, so maybe collectively we made the point. I Reread my post above, and definately no disrespect to you shep, just saying you need help, and throwin out some ideas that will make mods work easier. Not calling out the banned ones actions again, just pointing out that I noticed that shep did in fact act on it... so thanks!

Yeah if u feel like answering the questions that have already been answered, also teach em how to fish... even a link to the wiki. If u don't want to help, or it even bothers you, just move along.... if its in the dev section, even though I think the way it is regulated by the users is elitist, so as to avoid drama, flag somebody just to help them! Beat the lurkers to the punch, that way they look that much more a **** throwing in their worthless 2 cents after the issu has been addressed in a grown up manner.
[Epic 4G General] done12many2:
This is the fastest way to getting us back on track! Don't get involved in feeding their heads. Simply report it and move along.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mister-walter:
I have a bunch of Make Magazine PDFs that have links embedded into them. Is there any Android PDF reader that supports links?
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fitsman:
Anyone know the answer to this one?
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jtrosky:
Good 'ol GoodReader supports links - I just tested in from a .pdf file (programming book in .pdf format) - works fine for me! Plus GoodReader does just about EVERYTHING else under the sun too! Highly recommended!

Duh, never mind - I'm talking about an iPad app on the Nook Color forums... <sigh> - it's been a long day...
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kynibe:
Ezpdf reader is what you are looking for. Is in the market for $1.99.