yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate General] nkrick:
I don't think they give them much in the way of ETA. "Not complete" could mean 5 days, 5 weeks, or 5 months or anything else. If AT&T had actually sent information indicating the Captivate 2.2 update would be out back in December, it would not surprise me at all if they don't say anything this time until it is 100% ready to go.

At this point it is all just speculation and I am not speculating on a date (aside from probably 1st quarter since the Vibrant is updated and Samsung said 1st quarter for US carriers). Well, I guess I am speculating... My previous comment was just to say that AT&T may have actually intended to release 2.2 back in December, but something caused them to delay it.
[Captivate General] agentfusion:
He's jerking your chain. That's absolutely, completely false. Find a nearby Warranty Center (they're stand-alone locations that do nothing but warranty replacements), call them to make sure they have the Captivate in-stock (Warranty Centers typically don't get newer phones very quickly so make sure they have it before you go there) and then go directly to them and swap it out. They will do a normal series of tests that will be completely unrelated to your problem but it's procedure, and eventually replace your Captivate. Chances are, they will ***** about you not coming with a referral sheet. Whoop-de-doo. They will check your water-damage indicators, etc, cycle the device on and off multiple times, blah blah blah. Your best bet is to tell them it has been randomly powering off when in stand-by. That's a common problem in the pre-1010 run of Captivates and they will be very aware of it, and probably won't give you any more guff about replacing it.

-Former AT&T Employee.
[Captivate General] gunnyman:
My girlfriend's sister's cousin's best friend's brother just saw Froyo released at 31 flavors last night.
[Captivate General] nkrick:
LOL

What flavor?
[Captivate General] crystalhand:
Keep in mind that anything a rep our salesperson tells you is extremely sugar coated. It could be a one in a hundred shot but they will tell you it is going to happen if it means a commission check.
[Captivate General] swedishcancerboi:
Vanilla, of course.

Sent from my pocket.
[Captivate General] bames:
It doesnt matter what some companies do....att just re kr ased their 4th qtr earnings.....they are on calendar year
[Captivate General] bames:
Fy year end 12/31

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=t
[Captivate General] timmytim:
Why is everyone so anxious to get stock 2.2? There are ROMs here on the forum that are far superior than any stock ROM. What's the real rush? I do understand though that the devs might be wanting the source from a stock 2.2 i897 ROM to build us all new ROMs catered to our hardware.

My advice to everyone that wants AT&Ts stock 2.2 update is quit your *****ing and flash a custom ROM that you like. Cognition is a damn good place to start. Personally I run Perception w/ speedmod kernel and a JL2 modem and I have no issues, my phone is fast and stable, and my gps works great.

Just my 2 cents......
[Captivate General] yahooserious:
AMEN to that.

I expect the roll out will coincide with the ATRIX release.

I also expect direct to gingerbread to save face.
[Captivate General] opcow:
Wanting an official 2.2 release for our AT&T Captivate does not necessarily equal wanting to run an official 2.2 release on our AT&T Captivates. I would like for developers and ROM manglers to have source code and ROMs made specifically for our hardware and network to work with.
[Captivate General] bames:
I think late feb.....att has had it as long as tmobile (late nov)
[Captivate General] bobbylx:
Exactly!!
[Captivate General] delugeofspam:
I've been wondering if this was why they never bothered with a 2.2 release. I mean, if you know your Froyo is buggy and other devices already have 2.3, why would you bother doing 2.2, 2.2.1, 2.2.2, etc, when you can just lay off your development department for the winter and bring them back when the bulk of phones are getting 2.3? It just seems more cost-effective when the bugs are major and known, you know?
[Captivate General] blazin619:
They already made there money dudes... it doesnt really make sense for them to upgrade our phones in a rush when they can invest the resources into there next scheme. I doubt we will see anything special from froyo anyway. If it isnt the same as what samsung gave them back in november with a bunch of bloatware on it i would **** my pants.
[Captivate General] whiteguypl:
To the op.

Having worked for att in the past let me assure you that if they tell you they are a "specialist" they most certainly are not. And more then likely know less information then you do.
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
:D

Made my night, well early morning.
[Captivate General] toneflem:
screw official 2.2. go streaking through the quad! i mean, go flash something
[Captivate General] Zugshad:
when i recently got mine, i was curious as well to find out when it would be release as I had no clue about flashing roms ;) . i spoke to one that had one and they told me they had to go with a custom rom as it was the only way.. i spoke to another guy to ask of an idea "when" it would be released and he looked it up in their system and he told me "it was supposed to be released last September, but it has been delayed and there is no news at this time when they will release it" and he also said to just get a custom rom :P .. so found cognition 3.04 and happy with it so far.. just need to re-deploy so i can test the actual phone portion and gps as right now I can only use its wifi ;)

zug
[Captivate General] secretasianman:
Why risk being stuck with the phone? Return it.
[Captivate General] jhogal1:
No way we are getting ginger bread what makes u think skipping Froyo would save money for samsung or ATT
[Captivate General] bames:
we may not get an official gingerbread but who cares....we will have gingerbread ported custom roms that will be better
[Captivate General] Jmurph3:
Making Froyo requires time and energy. Time and energy are money.

What's sad is that if AT&T and T-Mobile both had 2.2 at the same time is that T-Mobile got 2.2 and 2.3 BOTH released before AT&T got 2.2 released. That's really sad. AT&T needs to shove their crapware back where it came from and release updates instead of adding software that no one really uses.
[Captivate General] nfs_phone:
Maybe the reason AT&T is so late is due to hardware differences

The problem I have is that while there are many ROMS based on the I9000 that do some really interesting things, like tethering, and more importantly IMO, Voice Dialing over Bluetooth, because of the hardware differences, NONE of those ROMS cobbled together to work with the Captivate support the A1026 (Audience) noise cancellation chip. After running a quick test, I believe that chip is a very nice thing to have working. Yes, you can use a BT headset with good noise reduction, but those headsets are pretty clunky when you're out of the car.

I'll note that while Rogers released an update for their Captivate that supports the chip, they did NOT manage to get voice dialing over Bluetooth to work correctly. This makes me suspect that this hardware may cause some problems with regard to getting the VD over BT to work correctly, and perhaps that's the thing that's slowing them down.

It's really too bad their corporate mentality is such that they won't talk about whatever issue they are having, because it only leads to massive speculation of the worse kind as to what's causing the delay.

And, Sugar Coated Cocoa Puffs http://media.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif to the dude that told you 3rd quarter when their fiscal year is on a calendar year. That means before the end of September.

Sheesh!

-NFS
[Captivate General] Snow_fox:
:0

there are still people on stock rom!?

Lies!!
[Captivate General] xiaoali:
I'm on the stock Rom.. I used to flash but got tired when so many roms came out it made me dizzy. plus i found that things worked better stock.. I know Im in the minority here.
[Captivate General] ScubaMedic:
I was one of those that was waiting and waiting for the "official" froyo.

I finally could not live with my captivate any more and went back to my Palm Centro. It's sad when I prefer the Centro over the captivate.

I decided I would try flashing a new ROM. I flashed Andromeda 1.0 as it is based off of an actual captivate. I should have done this a long time ago. Now the phone is fast and works as it should have out of the box. The only thing I may miss from the official 2.2 is my daily briefing app and voice dialing over bluetooth.
[Captivate General] evrt:
I'll bet you Dollars to Doughnuts you change your mind eventually! The Grass is Greener. Join the Rebels!
[Captivate General] xiaoali:
Haha, I plan to actually.. I stopped flashing because I had sent my Captivate from launch date back due to craptastic GPS and random shut down. This phone is starting to lock up often... so might have to send it back too. I also held out for awhile amidst T-Mobile getting their official Froyo. I thought we'd get it soon too. AT&T fail.. The Andromeda looks enticing.. I actually like TouchWiz and it looks like they've kept it.

But of course backing up my photos and saved games has held me back too. My girlfriend would probaly kill me if I accidentally reset her Angry Birds. Even though.. it is my phone.
[Captivate General] br8615:
Android 2.2 training goes live for AT&T employess 2/1/11.
[Captivate General] sridhar618:
Is that a joke, a guess or rumor..or fact?????
[Captivate General] vaiol123:
A lot of people seem to have that reactionc, but I bought the captivate because I loved the stock ui. Touchwiz is great, the Widgets are great, the lockscreen is great, the startup sound is great, the whole thing is great stock minus the att bloatware and malfunctioning GPS. And don't start with "flash pheonix my GPS works great" because that's BS. If you actually got out of your house you'd know that its using your wifi and network location to get your location. /rant
[Captivate General] Pirateghost:
drop this into /system/app/

;)

http://www.mediafire.com/?1jsps1ydgg25jyj

i have a full bloat package too if you would like (stuff i stripped out of armani for andromeda build)
[Captivate General] whiteguypl:
haha i get out of the house and locs in under 10 sec to 10 meters with no network location or wifi... all because of the rom/fix's im using. With stock its garbage for me. /rant
[Captivate General] wade7919:
Well.... from my lil experience this week with att.... there is no release date for froyo for captivate or any planned updates...

my lil suggestion is to just sell the captivate and buy one of the newer phones when its released off contract.
[Captivate General] emuneee:
There is a rumour going around that the AT&T Dell Streak will be getting Android 2.2 on 2/1/2011. Who knows.
[Captivate General] anthesca:
I use phoenix with wireless off. Locks quick and tracks great. Tracks way better with wireless off vs on.
[Captivate General] cdwhit:
The catch is that it depends on your phone. My first c

Cappy had a lightening fast and accurate GPS. It also shut down constantly and my first run at flashing killed the 3 button recovery and download except throuh adp. Who knows what features will go away on this one?

It was back to "stock" with Odin.

My current phone has variable accuracy from a few hundred feet to about 30 feet and takes about 30 seconds to start. Still a stock rom.

As far as why I don't flash, half the posts on XDA seem to be about " feature x doesn't work with rom y". And being on my second phone and considering going for a third, I don't want to risk my warrantee. I'm glad most of you can afford to drop $500 on a off contract phone every time a nicer one comes out, but I have other bills that need paid.

Frankly the only reason I want Froyo is for Adobe Flash. My much bigger concern is hardware that works.
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
It's great, if you like crappily thrown together ugly disgusting blatant ripoffs of Apple. At least we didn't get the iPhone 3GS like the i9000/Vibrant did.
[Captivate General] agentfusion:
Not necessarily true. I worked for at&t, and I am a certified on the following:

BlackBerry specialist (certified by a technical rep from BlackBerry in Canada when he was stopped down here for seminar)

'Windows Phone' Certified Specialist. (Certified by a guy whose name I can't remember, from Microsoft during a technical seminar)

HTC Device Support Certified Specialist (Same seminar, certified by the guy from HTC that was there.)

LG Certified Specialist. (I won't bother with the full list of certificates, however, because LG requires that you take a course for each device before certifying you. I mean

every

device, even their bluetooth headsets. Certified by ... DAMNIT! I can't remember any of their names, and my thinklg login has been reset since I haven't worked for at&t for almost a year.)

Samsung Product and Support specialist (Also highest seller of Samsung products in the Mid-Atlantic Region during the release of the Eternity and Impression)

And finally,

Nokia Support Specialist (Even got a free e71x for scoring the highest on the Nokia technical exams. Sold it because at&t had it so locked down that I couldn't get OVi on it though.)

So, not all at&t 'specialists' call themselves that just to make a sale. Some of us actually put a lot of hard work into earning that title, and don't just call ourselves that to sound important.
[Captivate General] sridhar618:
So whats the "official" scoop on Froyo!!
[Captivate General] shiftylock:
it could be worse. We could all have iPhones and be complaining about who has the bigger Gee-Bees. (purposely misspelled)

But seriously.

I really do thing AT&T is going to give us the update in February. I called customer service about my headphone jack thingy breaking and when I called I was like, "BTW, when are we getting Froyo?" and they told me not to expect it til at least February. At least that's what they said in December. :X
[Captivate General] stoobie-doo:
If rumors on other sites http://www.bgr.com/2011/01/27/motorola-atrix-4g-and-xoom-tablet-to-launch-next-month/ are true; the Atrix will start sales this month, so unfortunately this sheds no light on whether the Captivate update is coming any time soon.
[Captivate General] bames:
1. Touchwiz - You realize that some of the custom roms still have Touchwiz incorporated as stock or an option right? (not many of the newer ones but i think Cogntion through release 8 or 9 still had it. You realize that even if you install a custom rom that doesn't have touchwiz you can simply add touchwiz launcher back into the rom if you prefer right? It doesn't bother me that someone wants to stay on stock (to each their own) but because you want to use touchwiz is not an reason to do so as you can install it just as others install other launchers on their device. You will have much less lag with or without touchwiz on most custom roms. There are numerous benefits to rooting and or installing custom roms so yes it shouldn't come as a surprise that many people are shocked that someone would be happy with stock 2.1.

2. On GPS - where to start here. I always disable USE WIRELESS NETWORKS for location from LOCATION AND SETTINGS (additional my GPS is on standalone settings). I would say your line about gps/wifi is something most everyone you directed it towards were well aware of and probably have disabled wifi for location or do so specifically when using for actual navigation. I have always gotten quick accurate locks when stationary even on stock 2.1 (without using WIFI to do so). Thats only one part of GPS....tracking for navigation being the other. Stock 2.1 and many early roms my GPS tracking was unusable and wildly inaccurate often times showing me in the middle of a cornfield or failing to turn on the map nav when i had turned in reality and then having difficulty relocating me once it realized i had turned.

You can think its bs all you want but that is simply your perception and not reality. Firefly (and phoenix) are 2 of several roms i have used that provide a significant GPS improvement in terms of tracking abilities and turn by turn nav. Firefly + Jk4 modem is the best GPS performance i have had as far as making my turn by turn navigation functional and accurate.

I can't speak for improvement in lock time and accuracy when stationary because mine was always good but others have reported imrpovements for them as well. I can tell you this much generally i see 10-12 sats indoors or out with 99-100% lock rate. My turn by turn is pretty much spot on. I might have a minor hiccup 1-2 times per every 75-100 miles of use. Believe it or not...this is a reality...not bs.

PS -- for a long time i preferred touchwiz and used it as my default even after i started flashing roms (used touchwiz exclusively with cogntion), Once i finally gave other launchers i try i found there are 3 that i prefer over touchwiz: launcher pro, adw, and go launcher. All 3 have more customization options and are faster UI.
[Captivate General] Jirv311:
Ummmm, what?
[Captivate General] sremick:
I want AT&T and Samsung to release stock 2.2 for the Captivate so that the ROM developers can have building blocks actually designed for the USA Captivate, hopefully addressing all sorts of lingering incompatibilities and quirks. Instead of them having to build Franken-ROMs out of bits and pieces of other Galaxy S ROMs that can be made to sort of work on the Captivate but have issues. The devs waste too much of their time trying to sort out these issues... I'd rather they have a legit, real 2.2 Captivate base to work from as a starting point and then improve it from there.

And +1000 for Audience chip support. It's a horrible shame that one must sacrifice this sweet bit of hardware, shifting the voice-processing over to software (the modem) just to use a 2.2 ROM.
[Captivate General] bames:
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At least you cite the only valid reason for not flashing. That being said...in most cases if you had to revert to stock for warranty you can. The only downside is if you ended up with a brick while on a custom rom and you couldn't perform the flash back to stock (i will note tons of people have had bricks during various stages of flashing and seem to have returned under warranty without any issue in the 2nd scenario).

RE: GPS

i agree that the different builds seem to react differently (geography plays a role as well) in regard to gps. One thing i do believe is a constant that for each build you can improve your gps significantly with the right rom/modem combo. I think pairing the right modem with an i9000, rogers, or armani build will yield significantly better GPS for just about any build # captivate. Always had fast accurate stationary lock without wifi location enabled (even on stock) but the perfect combo for my 1007 to this point has been Firefly + jk4 (1007 build). Because my stationary locks were good before the improvement here is minimal but the tracking performance increase is unreal and actually give me usable and accurate turn by turn nav (its not a garmin standalone but its consistent with my wife's iphone4/mapquest nav performance which is very good).
[Captivate General] aehlayel:
Remedies to your phone's disease..

They call it Andromeda, it works like magic
[Captivate General] gunnyman:
I guess it's time to pester scamsung for the armani 2.2 source code.
[Captivate General] ScottyNuttz:
Yeah, I'm one of those stock holdouts who is about to give up and rock Andromeda very soon.
[Captivate General] Pirateghost:
LOL!

why? they already gave it to us!

how do you think andromeda was born? ;)
[Captivate General] RockRatt:
Just to TRY I called att and they had no knowledge, got transferred to their tech support who also said they had no knowledge, they gave me samsung tech phone number and they too had NO official or unofficial date for 2.2

Att told me that samsung would push it out and the att has NOTHING to do with the update getting pushed out. Sanding told me that they WILL send it to att when it is ready. I told them (not that it matters to them) that this will be the last sanding product/phone I ever get due to the rest of the world getting 2.2 and not us on the captivate.

Sanding Tech Support# 8004964599

Sent from MY Perception 10.2 Darkness 2.5, Glitterballs v.4 1280 Oc/Uv, UGJL2 MODEM on XDA App
[Captivate General] wade7919:
I talked with ATT last week... not the tech or any of that ****.. but the actuall office of presidents which would of been able to give information on the release... they told me there is no notice of release for Froyo or any updates for the Captivate at all listed....

So like i said a few post backs sell the captivate and get an htc or moto that is good with updating their products...

Or stick on here and get the roms and stop complaining....
[Captivate General] modum:
Soapbox:

Please stop all of these posts. Post when ATT or Samsung actually releases something...wait it doesn't matter...devs have made some excellent roms here, and I am sure Samsung folks are lurking in this forum taking notes. Everybody let's not waste more time on something that's not going to happen. If it does...then "golf clap" to Samsung and ATT...you did your job. Anti-clamatic though cause the devs knocked out workable roms yester year.

Not to knock the person who started this post, bit how many times will we get these posts? It takes space for more meaningful posts.

I have 3 words two actions to all the noobs like me:

1. Root

2. Custom rom

Complain? Then why are you in this forum in the first place? The consensus is that we all got duped. XDA devs fixed the issue. Take a few spare hours to really learn how to make your phone better, or "chuck a deuce". I have been following the froyo release since July last year...it ain't coming.

Again sorry friend. Just a little frustrated with these repeat posts keping people on edge. I am about facts and the fact is that Froyo is out, and it is in XDA.

...off soapbox
[Captivate General] ScubaMedic:
Now I guess the question is how do I change the permissions to allow me to drop it in? I can copy it to other folders but I can't put it in that folder using astro.
[Captivate General] secretasianman:
Or you could just... you know... NOT READ THESE POSTS.

Heaven forbid people wanting to let off some steam and have a little fun!
[Captivate General] Pirateghost:
you need root explorer, or super manager (i think thats the name), or via adb...

your /system needs to be r/w, and by default its r/o
[Captivate General] modum:
Understand what I wrote. CHIEF. I think we all are one the same boat.
[Captivate General] BigB42078:
You know I don't even care about a US official release for the Captivate from ATT. We really already have an official 2.2 release in Cognition 3.04 built from the official Rogers build from Canada with a few tweaks. It works so well, it boots fast, scrolling screens is fast and smooth. And for me at least, the GPS is awesome. It works just as good if not better than my iPhone 3G did. I can now get location in my basement. Before I had to go outside and wait a few minutes.
[Captivate General] gunnyman:
I'm sorry I didn't realize we got source as well as an "official ROM" carry on. :)
[Captivate General] agh1701:
Someone posted this link on the at$t forum.

http://www.wireless.att.com/support/tutorials.do?tutorialsCategory=Getting+Started&tutorialId=825930&deviceId=12000

Take a look at the last picture. it says firmware version I897UCJK1 2.2?

Note: Posted by an AT&T employee
[Captivate General] SlappyMcGee:
Oh wow good catch. I wonder how long that screen shot has been up.
[Captivate General] iamamp3pimp:
same here bro, every single rom after about a week or two started to act all jacked up.

Stock 2.1 w voodoo ftw.
[Captivate General] agh1701:
Thank JFizDaWiz, Over at the AT$T samsung forum.

http://forums.wireless.att.com/t5/Samsung/Android-2-2-Upgrade-Captivate-or-in-general/td-p/1992573/page/29

Bottom of the page.

Note: JFizDaWiz is an AT$T employee
[Captivate General] qwertyaas:
Andromeda, Cognition, Firefly. Captivate based roms.
[Captivate General] bames:
Those are all great roms but still not that same thing as firmware release specifically for our i-897's