yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Legend General] ishan_rulz:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=776901

I downloaded the one from ROM Manager ;last night (this morning), that has to be the latest one right? #19. I will look at it again tonight and post my success story here.
[Legend General] jo3bar:
Just the time to answer and a new one appear: #21 :D not tested
[Legend General] ishan_rulz:
Oh jesus, I downloaded a really early build didn't I?

Download #21 right now. Thankyou!
[Legend General] ishan_rulz:
Ugh, problem still persists.

Will try Blay0's next week.
[Legend General] CK!:
Follow these instructions and everything will work:

- Boot into recovery mode and start the recovery tool on your. Workstation

- Wipe everything

- Execute these 3 commands on your PC

* adb shell mount /system

* adb shell rm /system/app/*

* adb shell rm /system/framework/*

- flash the 2 zips
[Legend General] ishan_rulz:
Is that any different from running fake flash and wiping, flashing it that way?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikesincredible:
ive been flashing roms for awhile now but Ive never successfully flashed a rom with the equipped kernel...it never boots my phone, it will go as far as the boot animation then start boot loop...so I ALWAYS have to load a diff kernel...then the rom will boot...are there any other things to do in CWM lo load up..fix permissions or anything? I always wipe cache/dalvik, data
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nunoriffitti:
Have you tried unrooting your phone then flashing froyo then reroot with unrevolked 3 and then flash the ROM that you use... I am a noob so I am just going by what I seen someone suggest before and it worked for them...good luck
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikesincredible:
Uhm..sorta thought about it but I'm leiry of bricking......
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikesincredible:
I went ahead and tried..restored 2.2 stock went back to the required radio by unrevoked3..just gets stuck at the boot animation..flash a diff kernel and all is well....ill just continue to do this! woot! was weird seeing stock froyo again haha
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gahh Its Lee:
The only way to brick your phone that i know of is careless radio flashing. Flashing back between versions of android is fine I've done it probably 50 times. Don't be worries to unroot and maybe run an ruu because that's an annoying problem.
[G Tablet General] Bad@ssGtab:
A little commentary for the newbie’s just getting a G_Tab or discovering this forum and feeling a little overwhelmed….

I would describe myself as a high end user with good skills but not a programmer by trade. I’m a good reader and follow processes.

I bought my first G Tab mid November from Sears.

Out of the box I was like “What the @ell”…. I currently had an iPad and the comparison was night and day.

If it wasn’t for “roebeet” it was headed back to Sears faster than I could start the car. TNT Lite saved it from the scrap yard.

I’m naming my first child “roebeet:… :-)

Currently I have 3 VS G Tabs…. “Don’t ask, Don’t tell”…..:-)

#1 is my daily driver I use for work… Current ROM is VEGA-n 5.1 with Clemsyn's KERNEL

I have tied every ROM and Kernel out there and this is by far the most solid. I trust this to go on the road with me and use for work.

Pretty much 95% of apps work and it’s been so long since it’s FC’d or done anything “funny” I can’t remember.

Keyboards, mouse control, GPS connect, BT, DOCK, etc all work as they should.

#2 is my CRASH TEST DUMMY. It has been used and abused with every ROM, Kernel, Apps you can find on this board.

This is the one I use to try out all the ROMS, Apps, Kernels the Developers have all worked so hard on.

This one has been to @ell and back several times and keeps ticking.

Currently running NI Adam…. Not a big fan so far.

#3 is totally stock ROM with VS updates. Doesn’t even have the Enhancement packs.

This is my spare part tablet if needed. So far, so good.

As mentioned I have 32 gig iPad since they first came out. For the “Average” user this is what they need. Turn on and go.

I RARELY touch this anymore and will probably sell it down the road. What I can do on the Gtab doesn’t even compare to the iPad anymore.

I show the G tab to folks and they start to drool. But I quickly let them know this is like a Porsche, it’s awesome but takes some upkeep and tweaks.

Obviously everyone is waiting for Honeycomb to make its way to the G Tab, but I can tell you until then, VEGA-n will get the job done.

If you are just finding this forum and are looking to take your Tablet to the next level, that’s a good place to start.

We are all indebted to developers and users on this forum for all their time and efforts to help all the G Tab owners.

A very sincere thank you…
[G Tablet General] copc:
Nicely Said and Deserved!!! :D
[G Tablet General] tekrhino:
BRAVO! nicely written.

:cool:
[G Tablet General] 4rs fed:
Great post.

I first flashed to CM7 and was highly disappointed.

I flashed back to stock because of USB driver issues in CM7

Then went to VEGAn5 and have loved the tablet ever since.

I think Honeycomb will take the Gtab even further and I can't wait.
[G Tablet General] Rumbleweed:
+1

Bought my gtab with hopes Viewsonic update would make it usable. No such luck. With no Android experience Iused instructions here to root and flash Vegan tab 5.1. No problems and tablet is now a pleasure to use. The developers here are fantastic. Can't wait for future releases
[G Tablet General] Stuggy:
Great post - I am enjoying my g-tab. New to Android but good a PC and programming. The openness compared to the ipad works really well for me.

And we only have new developments to look forward to. Pretty cool.
[G Tablet General] oomwrtu:
Stock ROM wasn't as bad as I was expecting but that might be because I updated to latest version right away. However, definitely enjoying VEGAn 5.1 far more than stock. Think I hit 8 posts so I can stop posting my opinion everywhere and wait until I have something useful to say. :)

EDIT: need 10 posts :(
[G Tablet General] hushpup131:
much appreciation to all

I too wish to share my gratitude, this is a very supportive community
[G Tablet General] Bad@ssGtab:
Then went to VEGAn5 and have loved the tablet ever since.

:)

Amen....
[G Tablet General] ~BAM~:
Just curious to know what extra things you do with the GTab over the ipad?

btw I'm a fan too.. just got mine a week ago and havent put it down since.
[G Tablet General] kmclaren:
But...

Alright, so I see all the Vegan love on this thread and I just have to ask.... I have been on Vegan for about a week after being on TnT Lite. I LOVE the interface and a lot about Vegan, but it does not seem to be nearly as stable as TnT Lite. It seems to hang from time to time and it just reboot's itself 5 or 6 times a day.

Now I can say that I am running the Kernel that comes with the distribution and I am thinking about changing the Kernel. So my question for the others with stable Vegan installs is if....

a. Vegan just hangs and reboots now and again. (I could actually live with it)

b. I need to change out the Kernel

c. I'm a fool and a noob and I should just wipe this thing and try again. ;)
[G Tablet General] WillieBH:
Try pershoot's kernel. Fast, smooth, and stable for me
[G Tablet General] simon-edwards:
After experiencing many CF errors using TNTLite 3.1.3 installed on the original settings I have just re-partitioned (2048,0) and formatted the SDCARD. Then installed TNT Lite 4.2.1.

So far this has been rock-stable.

What advantages do you see in using VegaN instead of TNTLite?
[G Tablet General] kmclaren:
Thanks for the comments. I installed Clemsyns kernel last night and it seems that it made a big difference. Things just feel faster and more fluid when using the Gtab with this kernel. I also have stopped seeing the crash/restart when i wakeup the device. I know that others have reported the wakeup problem even with clemsyn, but it fixed it for me.

Noe, for my vegan experience... I really like the look and feel of vegan better. TnT lite is simar to stock. It worked well, but was not as easy to use. Vegan has the full setyings menus and a slightly more detailed front end interface and shell. It has a really nicr status bar as well. I cannot say that it has anything that i could not live without, but it just seems to have everything i need and like.
[G Tablet General] Sm0k3d 0uT:
You sold me.

This is definitely the tablet I am going to pick up
[G Tablet General] billygtab:
Well said... and Ditto

For the last 75 days this tab has been a workhorse for me. A few accessories missing and one or two enhancments would be great, but otherwise a great tab.

Regards,
[G Tablet General] melax:
Been lurking here for a few days now, but this is deff the tab I want from all the post here I have read. The gentlemen here have done such a wonderful job in making it a top tablet to get. Thanks..
[G Tablet General] Jis4Joe:
I feel very lucky. I started looking for tablets a while ago but was disappointed by what I found at the normal electronics stores. Then I ran across this thing at Sears (who buys their electronics from Sears) and bought one based solely on the hardware specs. I figured if anything could run Android this thing could. Disappointed out-of-the-box (like everyone else)... found these forums, and within a few hours had VEGAN up and running and couldn't wait to squelch a few ipad zealots at work the next day. Thank you to everyone that has shared your knowledge and time with the rest of us.
[G Tablet General] goog64:
As a newbie ( my G tab arrived yesterday) and a non-techie (I don't even own a mobile phone), I really appreciate the original post, thank you.

I'm going to put Vegan on mine.

Quick question:

What does a "kernel" do? Is that something like a BIOS in a laptop?
[G Tablet General] harleythatcher:
Another noob guilty of lurking for the past few days. Over the weekend I spent many hours googling/researching a tablet. Everytime I thought I had found a keeper I discovered it had serious drawbacks. Then I stumbled upon the VS Gtab. I was impressed with its hardware. I am in no way versed in Rooting/flashing but I can read and follow directions so I do not anticipate any serious problems. I ordered my Gtab yesterday and am continuing to study this site so when the time comes I will be ready to Root and Flash (sounds fun). My son and son in law are both programmers so I figure between the good folks on this site and us three I should have a kick ass Tablet when all is said and done. So "stick it up your nose Apple"

Tt:D
[G Tablet General] firewater2003:
you're not gonna cry over spilled milk....

Practical choice for the price...@ smoked_out
[G Tablet General] cnewsgrp:
Nice thread OP:D

I am about to buy a G Tablet from a web store for about $400. I recently sold Archos 70 mainly because it was a bit slow due to less memory (256MB) Before I buy few questions. Will really appreciate a honest/neutral response.

This tablet seems to have good developer support. Is my assumption correct? I see many ROMS and install choices with a stable install process via CWM.

Root process is partition SD Card, then install CWM and then install ROM of your choice. Is that correct?

After I have installed custom ROM is the interface fast and responsive? I am not a heavy user, I normally install 30-40 user apps.

Is the RAM 512 MB?

I have heard that display is not that great. Is it really so bad? I am just looking for a usable tablet with good display, will this do?
[G Tablet General] MasterColdSoul:
There is a number of developers, the main ones is the team that came together to produce Vegan which most people use. As with anything, things change people come and go so the developers now might not be the ones next moth it could be more or less.

There is guides, if you follow the guides and have flashed a phone before it's simple. The Gtab is hard to mess up, though it's not foolproof. Read, re-read and follow it step by step is always the best way.

VERY responsive! I have a G2 with CM6 (now CM7) it's considered one of the top phones, and this tablet is more responsive then that (and it's a VERY responsive phone). While Dalvik doesn't use both cores yet, any program can make use of both cores (though not as effectively as when we get honeycomb) so programs like the Dungeon game get very high FPS (from what I read, not personal experience). I have never had any issues with slow down other than "wake lag" which has gone away with the newest Vegan.

Yep.

Are you familiar with the difference in say a screen from a G2 to the SAMOLED or a IPhone IPS screen? The Gtabs screen is similiar to the G2's, the quality is ok, you sometimes wish you had a little better but it's not bad. If you need the "best" screen you might not be happy, if you need something to be detailed enough to be readable (say a website) from 2 feet away thats possible. The viewing angle is hardly a issue unless you make it one, or plan on letting people 3-6 feet to the left of right of the screen trying to read it (not normal use for most people).

I was worried about the screen quality, but I view high quality PDF's and they look really good. I view comics, and websites with no problem. I showed it to my friend after telling him some peoples complaints about the screen he said "I don't know what they are complaining about (with the screen)". So take that for what it's worth...
[G Tablet General] cnewsgrp:
Thanks for detailed replies:D
[G Tablet General] simon-edwards:
Thanks for the overview, well written and accurate.

A big thanks to the Devs for their unique work.
[G Tablet General] simon-edwards:
Thanks for the update.

I was wondering which kernel to try, Clemsyn or Pershoot. I'll follow your lead and see what changes I notice.
[G Tablet General] jharris09:
It is worth it. I love my G Tab!
[G Tablet General] OwensJC:
Got my g-tablet the day after Christmas to replace a failed laptop.

Replaced the stock TnT with several roms from XDA then settled on vegan.

Been running 5.1 for about 30 days now and it hasn't missed a beat.
[G Tablet General] rohitlepa:
very happy

Have had the gtab for about 10 days now and my wife (and me;) ) are very happy.

For people who are not into installing custom ROMS (for whatever reason), I have been using the stock rom without any mods and the latest update from viewsonic. It has been very stable and fun to use. I have sideloaded plenty of apps from freewarelovers and other sites and they all work great! I do have the classic home selected rather than the dashboard home. Love the live wallpapers!
[G Tablet General] pgstormblade:
Newbie observations

Just like the OP, I bought an iPad when they first came out and I love it (still do).

I bought the G-Tab to see what one of the most respected SysAdmin's at the office was talking about when he raved about his Android phones. I talked to him about what he liked and did not like (he has several Samsung phones). He told stories of bricking one phone and how he liked to tweak and change ROM's on his phone, but left his wife's phone alone. His passion and fervor for all things Android intrigued me and I started looking for a way to enter the Android arena without getting a phone. My co-worker recommended looking at XDA forums for what other people were doing. That lead me to this forum and I started reading everything.

Eventually I decided to buy a G-Tab and ordered it from Amazon ($329). It arrived and I charged it just like I was told to do. The next day when I got off work I decided it was learning time for Android and I turned on the G-Tab. Let's just say I was very underwhelmed! The interface was stuttering all over itself and things were force closing like crazy. Soon enough I got the message that there was an update and downloaded that. Things started looking better after that because the G-Tab became much more usable.

I had already been reading this forum and knew that "stock" for the G-Tab was a mediocre experience at best so set out to learn how to change the system.

At this point I have my G-tab running G-Harmony1.2 and it rocks! Soon I will do a side by side comparison to the iPad and see how things shake out.:eek:
[G Tablet General] edirector:
Thank you we appreciate it. The information found here has been invaluable. I too have tried quite a few roms but on my main device. I looked at the ipad first but was not impressed. The odd square size for one and the chunky weight was a problem. Now I understand the tabs that weigh more is because of, they are all battery. To get 10 hrs run time you need a big battery. Viewsonic told me it was why this tab is heavy, the battery.

One thing about the ipad I didn't like, was, wasn't too much I could do on it that wouldn't cost me more money, not too much a fan of the "pictorial cash register". Mostly I want the ability to tweak and toy with it. Every time I flash a new rom I feel like I am getting a new device and I like troubleshoot through whatever issues may arise. This is a fun tech toy. All these type of devices are basically consumption devices will not replace a laptop. But for on the road you can't beat the convenience of popping one out.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] isellmidgets:
I'm using Mobile Navigator 7.4.0 with Q3 2010 maps. The program starts up fine, doesn't tell me I have no maps (which is only worth commenting on because it used to tell me that before I moved them, so I know it's at least recognizing the maps...), asks me to select a language, and as soon as I choose the language and hit OK, the program closes immediately.

Anyone know what's going on?
[Android] maury1234:
well i started porting android 2.3 to huawei u8150 and i have a big problem; the rom starts ok but hardware does not start. I cannot enable anything not even phone signal...so how could i port the drivers from froyo to gingerbread? what files are in charge of making phone receive signal?
[Fascinate General] kdaz:
im having problems installing root explorer on kaoscinate v4...any ideas? it installs but then proceeds to force close when i try to use it ive looked around but havent seen anything about it
[Fascinate General] ahkiat07:
What device you using?
[Fascinate General] kdaz:
sorry, using a fascinate on vzw and i tried fixing permissions also
[Galaxy Tab General] conan1600:
Ok so ive rooted this toy, flashed the 1.2ghz kernal and ran quadrant on it. I hit anywhere from 1080 to 1180. Have setcpu on demand at 800 min and 1200 max so why on earth is my rooted nook color running android 2.1 and a flashed 1100mhz kernal hitting wayyyy higher scores? (Around 1280) doesnt seem logical at all. Specially cause this is an actual tablet and thats just a rooted e reader. Did I do something wrong?
[Galaxy Tab General] foxmeister:
Quadrant is a bad benchmark. It weights i/o far too heavily.

The Tabs RFS filesystems bring its Quadrant score way below where it should be, though in actual use it's very fast.

If you move to EXT4, your Quadrant scores will shoot up by around 80%.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Tab General] conan1600:
O sweet love of mary. 80% you say. Ok ive seen some posts redarding this ext4 thingymabob. Ill check it out. So if im understanding you correctly by changing to this my tab will perform even better than it does now? Or ill just see a genaric increase on this quadrant test that really means nothing? Sorry im noobish lol
[Galaxy Tab General] bullyfrog:
Well, my tab is currently on ext4 and my quadrant scores completely destroys my rfs score taken earlier.

However, that said, i don't really feel any performance improvements except the satisfaction knowing that my toy is now on an open and faster file system as opposed to a propriatory and slower one ;-)

Sent from my GT-P1000
[Galaxy Tab General] conan1600:
Ok so ive looked at some threads containing info but I see no post telling me how to do this magic. Could one of you nice, young, kindhearted souls link me to where I need to go to put this thing on my verizon cdma galaxy tab? Please and thank you sirs?
[Galaxy Tab General] GANJDROID:
Quadrant scores aren't as accurate as people think you know...

Sent from zombie infested Gingerbread.
[Galaxy Tab General] AlexVallat:
There's an app called OCLF that will transparently add an EXT4 area on the RFS filesystem without needing to convert the whole thing to EXT4, giving you EXT4 IO performance in an easily installable and reversible way. Probably your best choice for trying it out. Otherwise, for the complete conversion, you could try this Modaco ROM/Kernel, which includes a complete conversion to EXT4.

As far as performance differences go, it makes a huge (10x) difference to the Quadrant IO score (measured before and after figures), but no measurable difference to actual performance (measured real-world usage figures). Some people claim to notice a subjective difference, but I never did.
[Galaxy Tab General] robertsydbrink:
Im using the modaco rom and kernel with ext4.

And it does make a huge difference. I get around 1800 in quadrant now.
[Galaxy Tab General] twisted:
hi,

please be aware that the modaco kernel (rfs/ext4) will not work on CDMA Tabs.

from modaco kernel thread

regards,

mike :D
[Galaxy Tab General] foxmeister:
That's the point!

It makes a huge difference in Quadrant, which is a synthetic benchmark, but far, far less difference in real world usage - hence it is a crap benchmark!

Pre-EXT4 my Tab would pull around 1000 in Quadrant, whereas my Desire HD would pull around 1800. However in real usage, they seem to perform pretty much the same which is not too surprising as they are similarly specified. On EXT4, my Tab pulls around 1800 now, but still performs much like my DHD.

I so wish people would stop bandying about Quadrant scores because they are meaningless.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Tab General] roy8846:
If you look at the scores in quadrant , they are split by colour so you can see how good the graphics capabilities are for example and compare to other phones. The colour codes are at the bottom of quadrant by the way
[Galaxy Tab General] TheGrammarFreak:
Linpack is a better benchmark. Not perfect, but better ;)
[Galaxy Tab General] foxmeister:
Not really - Linpack only tests floating point performance.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Tab General] conan1600:
Wow, I started a heated discussion lol. Well ive downloaded the one click lag fix but have not applied the ext2 tools as yet. Want to do more reading about it first. Obviously I want my yab to be the best it can be but I surely dont want to make it genericly better at the expence of my video grafix as one user said he suffered in that thread.

More reserch required :D
[Galaxy Tab General] codewisp:
Taking Quadrant scores aside, when I made the switch from CF-Root to the Ext4 MCK, I really did notice a huge improvement in real world usage. I'm not sure if it is really because of the change in file system, but nevertheless thats the only big thing present in that kernel aside from CWM.
[Galaxy Tab General] Adapt0r:
Everything said make sense and seems to be valid but let me share my experience.

I have Samsung Galaxy Vibrant and T-mobile Tab. Now both are using EXT4 file system and have fully functional recovery allowing for flashing straight from the phone.

Both now have Quanrant score around 1700-1800 and run very smothly.

Is I/O speed important? I think it is very important because task switching requires reading of huge chuncks of memory. Until read operation completed the user is essencially suspended. Multitasking is the major distinction of Android and lags associated with the tasks switching might be the most noticeable issue since its used so much. Converting of the RFS file system to EXT4 practically reduced lags to unnoticeable level. I don't need any better.

Another critical area for I/O is playing video and especially capturing HD video. The latter works only if I set internal storage and shut down all tasks.

This is work in progress but it seems it reached level of usability when most critical bugs eliminated.

It should be noted that the Tab is flashed with Rotohammer KM2 v1 ROM and Paul Obrien's kernel on a top. The kernel contains scripts converting the file system and flashing recovery. This combination works well, no issues so far.