yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] sector6:
Welcome back, petititi :)

Testing the v2.3beta, I have the same problems by user: wmg316 in post: #76.

I'm using HTC touch pro2, on the official Vodafone wm6.5 ROM:

OS 5.2.21854

Rom 1.86.161.1(67102)WWE

Radio 4.49.25.17

Here are some other bugs I found after testing it today:

1) In landscape mode, "Programs" Grey bar doesn't extend the full length. "Quick Links" grey bar extends fully.

EDIT: it's working alright now for some reason.......

EDITv2: the same problem came back....

2) Changing names of icons + folders using Total commander which existed before installing Winstart cab causes their icons to disappear in Winstart even after reset. To get them to appear again, just rename it to the original name.

3) "HTC Settings" appears in Winstart along with "Settings". Clicking on the former does nothing and just brings me to Today page. In the normal Start screen for wm6.5, "HTC Settings.lnk" doesn't appear at all. In Total commander, "HTC Settings" is listed but "Settings" could not be seen.

4) Settings>Connections>MobileVPN: blank white icon, does nothing when i click on it.

5) Settings\System:

- Bluetooth: blank white icon, does nothing when i click on it.

- TskMgr: does nothing when i click on it. I have another "Task Manager" icon in the same folder which works.

- Backlight: <<ERROR The file 'Backlight' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found.....>>

- Contrast: does nothing when i click on it.

6) Settings\Personal:

- voicecommand_ppc: <<ERROR The file " cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found.....>>

7) Quick links: I have two blank spaces where I removed icons and they are not being filled by new icons. I've forgotten which icons they were.... pardonnez-moi :(

Selfish suggestions:

i) I am using Auto Wallpaper Changer by AntWorks v1.41

http://antworks.su/pda/

but this doesn't change the ones on WinStart. Is there a way to change the wallpaper automatically?

ii) On the original Start menu in wm6.5, a 800x800 wallpaper could be used on portrait or landscape mode without it being stretched. As a result, I could use the same wallpaper for either modes. On WinStart, this is not possible: in portrait, the image is stretched. in landscape, the image becomes all black. Is there a way to get 800x800 to work on both modes?

In any case, thanks for your continual effort on WinStart :)

@+
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] petititi:
For the problem, you just have to wait a new beta version (soon).

For NRGZ28, I'm OK to include the free version in the ROM, but it's better if he wait for 2.3 (a lot of fix...)

1) Didn't notice this bug, I will search deeper...

2) Some user do dangerous things ;) !!! I have an idea why this happend... I will try to solve this problem.

3)I notice that users having HTC Settings encounter problems... I don't know why but I will try to solve this problem !

4)Yes, for most device this is not working, even in standard start menu.

5)-Bluetooth: to configure this, use the icon in the parent directory named Bluetooth too. (you can hide this icon)

-TskMgr: You can hide this icon (on some device, this icon work...)

-backlight:You can hide this icon too because recent ROM have changed the way you can set the backlight

-Contrast: same remark as before...

6)Check if voiceCommand is correctly installed

7)Can you post here the value of this key : HKLM\Software\Manila_WinStart\QuickLinks\QuickList

I will try to understand why this happend...

i)I will take a look to understand how this soft work, but you can use settings to easily change the wallpaper.

ii)It's something I need to work on. If it's not too hard, I will try to add this feature !

Thanks for your feedbacks, this help to have a better soft !
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] petititi:
OK, thanks I will try to understand what happend...
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] petititi:
Ok, according to your registry, you should have following quick links :

Can you tell me which one are missing and which one are wrong?

Thanks in advance !
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] claus1953:
After first trial i have following remarks:

1. Almost all icons in my settings folder have generic names like cplmain and seccplmain. None of the icons inside the settings folder can be launched, and a message pops up that the item has not be signed etc etc. I have a folder Controlpanel with links to all settings in there and all work, when i access the settings from in there.

2. As i use an UI with no top or bottom bars i cannot access and launch WinStart. I normally assigned a hardware key to launch Start Menu, but doing so Winstart is not launched.

3. My S2U2 folder is empty when accessing it in WinStart.

I have a custom spanish ROM flashed on my device.

Edit: When restarting my device when pushing the assigned hardware key the normal start menu is launched. When launching WinStart.exe inside the WinStart folder through an assigned icon in my UI it opens once. After this i cannot launch Winstart with this icon anymore, only directly from the start menu soft key. Also the hardware key assigned to start menu does not launch anything.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] sector6:
@petititi

\windows\start menu\programs\singh's tings\soft reset.lnk

-> the icon is present in quicklinks

\windows\start menu\programs\comm manager.lnk

-> the icon is present in quicklinks

\windows\start menu\programs\total commander.lnk

-> the icon is present in quicklinks

\windows\start menu\programs\singh's tingss\soft reset.lnk

-> this is missing. i think i might understand where the problem came from: while i was playing around with winstart yesterday, i renamed the original folder "singh's tings" to "singh's tingss" in totalcommander. As a result, the icon disappeared from the winstart screen (see problem 2). I renamed it back to the original name and the icon came back. This might be causing the blank slot in quick links.

\windows\start menu\programs\htc settings.lnk

-> same problem as the above. i deleted the HTCsettings.lnk in my Start Up folder after seeing that I have 2 "Settings" in my winstart. The HTCsettings.lnk pointed to Windows\LSCustApp.exe which does nothing and not working.

\Windows\Start Menu\Settings\cplmain.cpl,3 (battery status)

-> the icon is present in quicklinks

\Windows\Start Menu\Settings\cplmain.cpl,13 (today screen)

-> the icon is present in quicklinks

\Windows\Start Menu\Settings\myphonelauncher.cpl,0

-> the icon is present in quicklinks

\Windows\Start Menu\Settings\cplmain.cpl,23 (bluetooth)

-> the icon is present in quicklinks

\windows\start menu\programs\apps\auto wallpaper changer.lnk

-> the icon is present in quicklinks

In conclusion, the 2 blanks were caused by icons which were present but were deleted off in totalcommander. These blank slots seems to be permanent and cannot filled up by newer icons. I maybe wrong but it looks like this is the problem.

Other problems i found:

1) For some reason, no more new icons appear in my Quick links. eg. today i decided to use the Calculator but the icon doesnt get added to the Quick links. My last icon on the screen is the auto wallpaper changer icon.

2) I run my Comm Manager and then i close it (my task manager said i have no apps running). I go to Winstart and the icon remains on the Running program list at the top of the screen. This happens to half of the time.

sorry if some of my observations are a bit vague. feel free to ask for more details and I'll try to clarify them.

I'm planning to reinstall winstart to see if the problems remain and whether the 'blank slots' problem is really caused by me messing with the original icon names.

petititi: should i reinstall? or that will make it harder for you to debug problems?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] petititi:
You can reinstall or easier: just remove the key HKLM\Software\Manila_WinStart\QuickLinks\QuickList

I understand the problem, I will add a fix soon. The second problem is strange, I will take a look.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] osiedacz:
left right scrolling & first start

Hey @Petititi, two things I notice right away on 2.3 beta that I hae not seen mentioned.

1. First launch when using cookie 2.0 still obscures the upper task bar. I basically slides the top portion of my home screen up, so I see the top of my large clock.

2. Scrolling left to right so I can see the quicklink screen is real touchy. If I don't slide perfectly straight, the screen wants to just jump up and down based off the slight wiggle up and down with my finger as I slide. Vertical sliding seems fine, it is just the left to right that I can't always get right.

Regarding the quicklink screen. It would be nice if could have an option that allows us to either launch WinStart to the main screen (like it does now) or to launch to the last screen we were on before, like maybe the quicklinks.

Also, to have the option of sorting the quicklink screen based on most frequently used programs. Thanks.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] petititi:
Thanks for your feedback,

1) I notice that too, but I don't know how fix this...

2) I will maybe change the threshold to help left-right swipe...

I will probably add the option to open the last screen first...

The option to order alphabetically the quick list is a good idea, I will maybe add this feature but it's harder than other things...
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Joe Bleau:
I see the taskbar (very top w/ clock & battery) on my Tilt 2 like yours and Energy.RHODIUM.29017.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Mar.15. Same after rebooting.

Unless I don't understand the problem you are describing?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] osiedacz:
Hey Joe, it only happens the first time that I open WinStart. The first time I open it after a boot, instead of seeing my taskbar on the top, I see the portion of my home screen that sits just below my taskbar. So in my case it is the top of my flip clock. I'm posting a screenshot right now.

I just tried it after flashing a new NRG rom and guess what, it didn't do it right away. So I enabled the CHT softkeys and guess what, the problem is back. So it would seem that this occurs when CHT softkeys are enabled. Seems that when you fire up WinStart the Sense slider comes up and pushes the whole home screen up, covering the taskbar.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Joe Bleau:
Chinese?

I can't see a Chinese option in Program Files\Winstart\resources\lang nor in the Start > WinStart > Menu > Options in the paid version.

Do you have a lang.chinese.txt file I could download somewhere or do you plan to make one? Thanks.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] petititi:
I don't have a chinese version of the lang file, but I can try to do one using google translate and send it to you but you will probably have to correct the file...
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] nradu:
v2.2 full bugs

Hi everybody,

I have 2 bugs with the full version 2.2:

1. see attached picture: I have an empty space top left, I cannot rearrange the icons in order to get rid of it (tried sort, hide, move etc).

2. from time to time, when I start a program within a folder (i.e. from Tools) and go back to start menu (pressing the windows start button), I get in the last folder (i.e. Tools) instead of main start menu.

The 1st one is very annoying, is something I can do to get rid of it? If you need any information from my side let me know.

Thanks,

Regards,

Radu
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jakfish:
Re: the first problem. I think you've got corrupted icon command in your registry. Basically, WinStart has been ordered to show something that isn't there. Go to the beginning of this thread and look for where to find the start.reg section of your registry. Export that and edit it on the desktop, looking for the section that holds the missing icon.

Jake
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] petititi:
@jakfish:

Wahoo, it seems some user knows how WinStart work ;)

So thanks to help me!

@nradu:

Like he said, export HKLM\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\, I will find which icon have problems.

I had this problem once, but using "sort alphabetically" option twice the problem was gone... Maybe you can try this ?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] nradu:
thanks a lot jakfish and petititi!

I searched the reg file and realized the icon.lnk from each subfolder of \windows\start menu\programs is treated as a shortcut to a program. it has position 0, so it's the first one in each subfolder :mad:

I tried to delete it from \windows\... and from registry, but it keeps reappearing in the registry :eek:

I'll continue to dig into it, when I have a solution I'll post it here.

Regards,

Radu
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jakfish:
@nradu--I'm not certain, but I think you're looking in the wrong area of that reg section. Can you determine which icon is missing from that page? If it's, say, Calendar, then look for the Calendar entry and see what's up.

WinStart is looking for something to put there in that space. As of now, it can't find it, so it's leaving it blank. But that space signifies an icon.

Jake
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] osiedacz:
Blank Space In Menu

Hey All, I have two folders with the "missing icon" at the beginning too. In both cases, there should be an icon showing that isn't.

For one folder, I had a .lnk file that I had manually copied to the folder in the start menu. When I look at the registry, it shows that this is there, but it doesn't list any values for the target or icon. But in the standard start menu the .lnk file shows and works fine. In this case the .lnk points to a exe file on my SD card. This one is in my "GPS" folder and the program is GPS Tuner Atlas.

For the other folder, I have a game that when I install it, it doesn't put a .lnk file in the menu, it puts a .exe file in there. That one doesn't show up either. This one is in "Games" and is called Monopoly Here and Now.

I am attaching a clip of the registry. It's pretty amazing how messy this section gets after moving some icons around. Your program almost needs a little reg cleaning utility built in just for this section!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jakfish:
@osiedacz

I've had that issue: *.exe vs. .lnk

One thing you might try, if you're using Total Commander, is make a shortcut of the exe file to the selected directory in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\*

If the shortcut doesn't appear in WinStart, soft reset the machine.

Jake
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] petititi:
OK, I take a look !
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] nradu:
@jakfish,

I attached the reg key. Look at line 158, I think there is the problem.

I had this problem after I erased all in \windows\start menu\programs and copied a backup of that folder made before a hard reset. I think this puzzeled completly the Start menu.

Radu
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jakfish:
Instead of "158," can you give me the actual line that's problematic?

Thanks,

Jake
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] nradu:
hi jakfish,

sorry for the long file! i reattached only the items that creates problems.

meanwhile I added

"falseLink"=dword:00000002"

in all keys and the empty space is gone, but it comes back after a soft reset!

regards,

radu
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jakfish:
When I searched that last start.reg, I didn't find "falseLink"=dword:00000002"

I still think you're going at this from the wrong direction. In the reg file, find the page that has the missing icon. In that section, visually match the written icon names to the actual icons shown on your phone. Are they all there? Are any missing?

Jake
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] fade007:
Clearing icon cache solves most problems

For those of you missing icons and icons not showing correctly after changing them, install this:

JWMD Icon Changer >>> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=567080

Search for unregistered icons and then clear HTC icon cache.

This solves most problems with icons not showing correctly.

Warning: hidden icons will reappear and you'll have to hide them again.

Hope this helps.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] osiedacz:
Good tip, I had tried that and it did bring up some that had hidden, but not the exe or the .lnk that I have that doesn't have all its info listed right in the registry. Seems enough info is there that JWMD thinks it is fine, but not enough for WinStart to show it. Tonight I'll try manually adding some of the info to see when it finally shows up. If it does.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] nradu:
Thanks a lot, it works and solves my problem!

Regards,

Radu
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] sector6:
Winstart 2.3 Beta 2 primary report:

1) I still have the same problem with the 'Programs" horizontal bar in Landscape mode (see post #79). The problem is intermitten.

2) Changing names of icons + folders using Total commander which existed before installing Winstart cab causes Winstart to fail to open (see post #79). To get Winstart to open again, just rename it to the original name.

3) My phone tends to hang after soft reset (5 of 10 times), and remain stuck at the splash screen when I use Winstart. Another effect (5 of 10 times) I observed with Winstart is that my Titanium home screen doesn't load after soft reset. This is true for previous versions as well. Maybe this is due to conflicting applets on my phone.

4) 800x800 wallpaper doesn't appear in landscape mode, only in portrait mode.

Problem (3) is the main gripe i have and it might prevent me from using Winstart permanently on my phone. I'm not expecting you to solve this problem since i suspect this problem is unique to my phone.

In any case I will continue to use Winstart beta 2 and will add any further observations I find.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] petititi:
1) you're right, I will take a look.

2)You're right too :) I didn't notice this before (or forget), I will take a look

3)Does not have this problem... Can you try to uncheck the option "Disable start menu"? Which applets do you use?

4)Forget to add this feature... Will add this for 2.3 final!

Anyone notice problems when scrolling (I have) ?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] sector6:
I've unchecked "Disable start menu" and soft-reseted my phone 5 times and had no problems during bootup so far :) will continue tomorrow.

Scrolling problems:

Verticle scrolling was smooth and all good. However, I had problems with Horizontal scrolling. Swiping left and right wasn't very responsive.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] petititi:
OK, if the problem is not resolved, tell me!

For the horizontal scroll, I will try to do it better...
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] osiedacz:
So far the one that stands out for me is still the scrolling left-right. If I touch the screen, especially on the HD2, every little wiggle of my finger picks a direction and once the screen locks into a direction I can't stop it. So if I want to scroll right, but my finger slips up a bit, I can only scroll up and down until I stop and try again.

It would be nice if I had to drag my finger a short distance before WinStart made it's decision. Sorry I can't explain it better.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] petititi:
This is something I'm working on. I will post a new version in a few hours !
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Joe Bleau:
Re: Hanging in Splash Screen w/ and w/o WinStart?

Which one of the 4-5 (depends on phone model) splash screens your are talking about?

I tried untouched ROMs by various chefs w/o WinStart on my HTC Tilt 2 and most will hang at the last splash screen before getting to Home: labelled "Launching HTC Sense..." in some ROMs. Just hitting repeatedly the hardware End key on my HTC Tilt 2 solves the problem. My ACR app (automatic call recording) often does not load properly & causes delay, .net error & hanging in the last splash screen for example.

Here is the current default Energy ROM boot splash screens sequence (other ROMs are using welcomehead.192.png, Leo_animated.gif, etc.):

More info & custom splash screens cabs here: Disabling/Replacing Boot Splash Start Animation on NRG ROMs.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] petititi:
The beta3 will correct the previous bug (except for program bar in landscape but I'm working on it...)

Tell me if something don't work !
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] sector6:
@JB:

My phone (HTC Touch pro2, stock Vodafone UK ROM) hangs up on the welcomehead (the last splash screen).

It happens w/o winstart installed about 1 of 10 times but increases to 5 of 10 times with winstart. Unchecking the "start menu disabled" helps to fix this problem (reduces again to 1 of 10 times).

Will try hitting the end key when it hangs again:)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] JVH3:
Nice job with the new Beta 3

It was a little confusing that the beta3 attached to post #1 is different than the link to beta 3 on post #1.

The cab attached to post #1 is the newest file.

I have tested that I can hide Actice Sync and phone from the running apps.

I have also tested that I can use Settings->Connections->USB to PC

It will launch the normal selection tool which allows you to select if you will get prompted.

If it is possible, it seems even more responsive than before.

Job well done.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] petititi:
The final version is out, tell me please if I forgot to fix a bug!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jakfish:
@petititi

Many, many thanks for your hard work. Will our start.reg (layout of icons, etc) still work with latest version?

Jake
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] petititi:
Yep normally there is no conflicts... But in case something goes wrong, there is a backup of start menu registry in \program files\winstart...
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jakfish:
One more thing: do we uninstall 2.2 first?

Jake
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] wmg316:
Final Version bug?

@ petititi

Installed "final" version on a fresh new ROM install.

Don't see any difference between this and the last beta....

Except...

I have a bug now that never existed in any of the previous builds. I can initiate WinStart and the start menu comes up. But on previous versions, I could select the Windows start icon (lower left) or selecect the "X" close button (bottom right) to "close" WinStart and return back to the Home screen. NEITHER of these are working now.

Any advice? Any thing I can look at on my device to see what is going wrong?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] petititi:
No, it will be done automatically !

For the differences, I have corrected some bugs (quicklinks and settings icons), added the possibility to set a square background (landscape and portrait in one image) and added the possibility to change the font size and type.

And I have added a new bug ;)

I confirm for the win button (I have the same bug) but for the "X" button I don't have the problem.

I hope that once I correct the bug of win button your problem will be gone too...
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] -Jonny-:
I have tried 2.2Free and there are missing icons in the Settings (see attach). Clicking on them does nothing. Cannot hide them.

Also, why does everything change to lowercase? (see attach) I have to go through renaming everything to Capital like I wanted it to be in the first place. This is not a very friendly feature. (Even when I uninstall the names are not reverted back)

I also cannot move an icon. Nothing seems to happen. (Sort alphabetically works fine).
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] adrian1203:
Verry Good app. Thanks
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] petititi:
The free version is a bit old... A lot of features have been added to the 2.3 and a lot of bugs have been corrected. If you want to test the 2.3, send me a PM !