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[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joemm:
First, yes you need S-Off to do a nandriod back up.

Second, you do not have permroot if you do not have S-Off. To get S-off there are several ways but I recommend using Rage+gfree found Here: in sub section "Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD" This by far is the safest way to root.

But to let you make an informed decision there is also Visionary, now people in properly using this method, has produced a lot of soft bricks, I my self rooted this way, but again I still recommend using Rage+Gfree. But if you wish to still give Visionary a shot, Heres a link on how to properly use Visionary, make sure you follow everything to the "T". Read everything I have written in the post, do everything I have written in the post, then follow the videos exactly. But just to be clear, I am still recommending using the Rage+Gfree method. Happy Rooting.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manarch101:
ok joemm I tried the rage directions that you told me and I am not sure if it worked is there a way of knowing if it worked or not

Edit: nvm I can now get into CWM area which I could not get into before thanxs for the help and info.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KCRic:
What!!?? I know for a fact that you don't need s-off to do a nandroid. In fact, the ONLY thing s-off does that's of any significance is allow you to write to the system while it's booted - that's it. It's not some magic thing you absolutely need, just like having an ENG hboot isn't necessary to do 99% of the modifying you'll ever do.

This is a technical forum not some fire and brimstone 'do it or you'll die' sermon. Let's not construe fact and fiction/personal opinion on here. Just dish the facts unless otherwise rerquested.

As for gaining s-off, follow the wiki, push the files and you can literally copy and paste the commands if you need to (I suggest that so you don't screw up and brick your phone).
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joemm:
LOL..........how does he flash a custom CWM recovery with out having a rooted phone? Remember he is using ClockWorkMod to do a back up?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
S-OFF lets you flash unsigned images and overrides version checking ,it isn't just about writing to the system while booted. I think you may be confusing defeating the NAND write protection with the actual S-OFF.

As far as I know you need S-OFF to flash a custom recovery, and you need CWM recovery to do a nandroid backup. I have never tried flash_image but I would be suprised if that let you flash a custom recovery while S-ON, because flash_image is just a regular binary.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KCRic:
True you can't flash a custom recovery and have it stick after a reboot but you can package it into an update.zip and flash it when you get into recovery. Aside from that you're phone performs the same. That's how we did everything on the MT slide before some one found a method to gain s-off. Of course there were no custom MTD partitions and we couldn't change the splash but that falls into the 1% of things the average 'rooter' will not attempt. The only reason we needed the ENG hboot was so that adb would catch our phone in recovery every time without running a loop.bat and praying to god. As far as NAND write protection, normally when a dev manages to break s-on they also break the write protection. At least that's what I've seen in phones with s-off. Are there any not like that?

Hopefully I didn't come off as an ass earlier, didn't mean it. I got 3 hours of sleep and I'm pulling a 13 hour day with a foot of fresh snow outside :mad:
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
I think you might be drawing too much comparison with earlier phones. The DZ and DHD have much stronger security than earlier phones. People familiar with experience of older HTC Android phones have often made incorrect assumptions about how things work on the DZ, some things are quite different (and typically much more complicated to unlock) :)

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schaggo:
Hell yes! And I'm one of them!

Last night I put some Cyanogen 6.1 flavoured ROM on my Magic/Sapphire. It was so easy: like 2 years ago or so I flashed some S-OFF ENG hboot, put some nice custom recovery on the phone and there I went, peacefully since ever. Reason for flashing the 6.1 CM was me giving the fone to my GF so that I can pick up a brand new Desire Z.

I came here, wanted to quickly crack that thing to play around with it and I find some gFree, Visionary, adb push stuff blah blah blah (I know my way around adb, that's not the point), it seems to have become alot more difficult than back in the days, as pointed out by steviewevie.

So, anyone willing to *quickly* summarize what has changed in the last 12 months regarding "rooting", "cracking" and ROM-customizing HTC devices for me...? I'm still, uhm... well, I'm shocked and overwhelmed. In the store I thought: cool, 7pm, device mine, home by 7:30, rooted by 8, Gingerbread-flavour on it by 8:30-9pm, ROM customization (settings and such) from 9-10, sleepy time by 10:30pm. Nah, it's past 10:30 and I'm still trying to figure out what's what with the new devices... :(
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OriginalGabriel:
Its become more difficult because device manufacturers have made it more difficult. The "official" means to root the Vision is posted on the Vision wiki page here at XDA.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schaggo:
Thanks for the answer. I got the thing cracked in the meantime. The device feels so much smoother without Sense... and Gingerbread is good for one's soul :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DangerZone1223:
I'm getting some weird issues with my radio on Stock DK28. I'll have full bars and synced to my Airrave for calls. However, I won't receive any phone calls or texts.

I'll then run RoamControl, force my phone to roam, and then go back to automatic. Once I do that, all is well and I find out I have missed calls and texts.

This usually happens after I charge my phone or wireless sync music with my computer.

Is it just the kinks in the modem on DK28? Didn't have this problem when I was on DI18 and 2.1. Thanks!
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tricex2:
i'm having the exact same issue gonna purchase roam control and see if that works for me hopefully someone can figure this out.

*Edit well just used roam control and could make calls while roaming but when I went back to automatic still no calls just silence then fast busy signal followed by disconnect may be time to see odin :-(
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DangerZone1223:
Now I know why Samsung is taking so long with this update. Their version of Froyo better work flawlessly.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tricex2:
I hope they just skip it and go to gingerbread because I do not want to keep going through this.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darkk69:
It won't happen simply because they delayed this long enough to get the bugs worked out before release.

So I rather they spend the extra time with Froyo so it'll be flawless. :)

Then they can work on gingerbread even it takes them 4-6 months. By then we'd be bored with 2.2 that we want an update.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tricex2:
hopefully it will be "flawless" but I'm starting to have my doubts, I went through this with the palm pre and now the epic. I may have to hang up my early adopter chain for awhile, until i see a good tablet that is not named after a virtual maxie pad lol.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] OriginalGabriel:
I had to reset my Google password this morning as there was some logins to Gmail that I didn't do. After changing my password from my computer I went to make the change in Android but couldn't find a means to.

I went to Google via the phones browser and was asked to login to Google which somehow fixed the problem.

It seems the browser has write access to the system password, which to me seems like a huge security risk. Can anyone else verify this?
[Nook Color General] TKEMerph:
Hey Everyone, first off. I love you all. You've made me LOVE my Vibrant and NookColor more than ever!

I have two questions.. (sry my search on the site wasn't working :( )

1. I had a 4gb microsd card that I used to put the Autonooter for NC on it. Now I'm seeing alot of updates with froyo and overclocking kernels and I want to try them out. But my 4gb card is frozen solid at 32mb, I tried formating a through windows, I read on another post that I cant find at all that theres a better program out there for fully formatting microsd cards back to the original state.. Does anyone know the program?

2. I've been reading daily on the updates for Froyo, Which one is the current most stable version?

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Thanks!!!

<3
[Nook Color General] mrmark93:
1. Put the uSD card back into your NC. Under the original (BN) Settings ---> Device Info ---> SD card : first unmount the uSD card, then format it. Then remove from NC.

2. Not my thing, no help, sorry.
[Nook Color General] TKEMerph:
Thanks for the help on the SD Card! First step done, alot more to go!
[Nook Color General] TKEMerph:
Okay, So I installed Clockwork Recovery and made a backup of my system. After I installed clockwork, My nook froze at boot, I figured out how to get into clockwork recovery and I am currently restoring my eclair.

I see alot of people using froyo, which build and what post did everyone do it from? I see alot of eMMC but I see a Development build.. I'm confused as to which one I should get.

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Stoney 666:
CYAN-Z SKIN FOR Z ROMS

First off, big thanx to gadget and wes for helping me out with finaly geting this skin finished!!! Also to the Bad Seed Customs Crew For everything!!!

Here is Cyan-Z for Z roms, with land scape support for Z roms with land scape support. most of all the visual goodies from viva cyan and cyan dragon for your Z roms!! Comes with non flip clock till we figure this out. gadget and I are hoping to get it working soon....

CYAN LUANCHER PRO

And for all you launcher pro users, cyan LPP!! If you are already on pro, make a titanium back up, then uninstall your LPP. Now flash cyan LPP and restore data only with titanium. You can also request your pro unlock code through the LPP preferences.

Fancy Widget Clock to go with the cyan goodies

LG Clocks

DOWNLOAD LINKS

without droid

with droid

DOWNLOAD LINKS

Blue without droid

Blue with droid
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] slayer69:
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[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jeffsanace:
Looks great, got a spot!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] fernando sor:
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[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] bmtdan:
Very nice!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Cy_n_ic:
So gd hott, you can cook a hogs ass in a spoonful!
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Ok. I am normally not an idiot, but while on dk28 can I flash an eclair rom and be back on eclair or will I have to use odin? I am going back to di18 and have odined to dk28 and have the dk28 modem just to clarify.

Oh. And rfs.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iSaint:
Yes i believe you have to odin back to DI18 then re root before you flash back a DI18 rom
[EVO Shift 4G General] kbrn:
I removed a few which are mostly known as safe to remove

But I would like to know what else can be safely removed.

I removed these:

Telenav

Amazon mp3

Nascar

HTC Tutorial (which it's more like an internet shortcut)

Adobe Reader

Kindle

Quick Office

SFL

Thanks!
[EVO Shift 4G General] Argabarga Jones:
Here is the thread you are looking for:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=924983
[EVO Shift 4G General] kbrn:
cool! thanks a lot
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeremyt727:
Does using wifi drain the battery? Is it better than using the actual 3G or 4G?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrbmg:
I'm sure someone has a way more technical answer but I would think not. I have no issues with drainage on wifi, as on 2g its on the network constantly and not continually searching for towers.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theimpaler747:
If you are connected to a wifi network, it saved much more battery than using 3 or 4g. However, if you leave wifi on but don't connect to a network, it will drain battery

Sent from a truly Epic phone and a transparent XDA app ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeremyt727:
ok cool thanks alot man. Idk when I'm home I just like using wifi better, correct me if I'm wrong but it seems faster. Thanks again
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dietotherhythm:
Turning on anything more than necessary will kill your battery faster. Not always by a lot but everything does and wifi wouldn't always be faster because it depends on the wifi's local area connection. Best way to save battery is to go in settings/applications/manage applications the force close anything you don't need running. Make sure you know what it is you're closing or you could run into some problems. If you end up killing a system app and it won't reopen itself, its nothing a reboot won't fix.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ibemad1:
DO NOT DO THIS.

Android has its own automatic task management system, and its best if you just let it do what it does best: manage on its own.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dietotherhythm:
Well gee I do it all the time and it works fine. If it wasn't intended to be used I don't think it would come without root permissions and anyone who isn't an idiot will realize that force closing android system will cause problems. But if you wanna suggest a task manager that doesn't actually kill apps and adds some bloat ware, be my guest.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
He's not going to recommend another task manager/killer, because Android already does it by itself. Plus, killing a task that is not finished just causes it to respawn. Task killers are unnecessary, and may actually hurt performance and battery life.

Its explained here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=849974&highlight=task+killer
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] setspeed:
I agree that it's best to let Android clean it's own house normally, however I'm getting a little bit jarred off with certain apps starting themselves up at boot-time.

Paypal app for some reason has installed a service on my phone, despite the fact I've never even logged into it and I can't see why it would need a service running all the time.

Also since the latest Google Maps upgrade there seems to be something under my running tasks called Rate Places. I've not used the check-in service on GMaps at all, nor will I ever.

As well as this, since I've been running a modded CM ROM (SparksMod Extra Hot Sauce) then I constantly have Wi-Fi Calling running - again this is useless to me cos I'm not on TMob US.

Any suggestions for a decent app which can stop all these things running before they ever start, and keep them stopped?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stshannon:
Try "Autorun Manager"

I use it, but SOME apps will auto-restart. I think you need the Pay version of Autorun Manager to prevent those from re-launching.

I use the free version, and it gets rid of some of the problem.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EEaudio08:
WiFi is definitely causing massive battery drain on my G2 with CM6.1.1. I leave it on at night, and if I have 50% when I go to sleep, I'm down to 3% in the morning. Without doing anything.

I'm not quite sure why this is happening, but it is, and it sucks. I can't go back on 3G/4G right now because I'm at just about 4.8GB, and I don't want to go over my 5GB soft cap.

I wish I knew why WiFi was causing such battery drain...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slapshot30:
Do you have anything updating automatically (Email, facebook, etc)? That would be my best guess. I leave wifi on when I'm at home and it isn't that bad at all. Also, I'm sure theres an app out there to let you see what is using the wifi for updates and such. I just don't know of one off the top of my head. I have an app like that for 3G data but it doesn't do wifi.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EEaudio08:
I just went through every one of my apps to make sure that nothing is set to sync, except Google Voice and Email. My battery is at 50% right now, so we'll see what it's at tomorrow morning.

As you can see from the screenshot, WiFi is using quite a bit of battery. I'm not sure why, but hopefully soon (after some testing) I'll have my answer.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EEaudio08:
Yup, 2 nights in a row, my battery has gone from 40% to dead, simply from sitting on my night stand. I wonder if this is why T-Mobile discontinued the G2... because they knew it would have battery issues, and they didn't want to deal with serving warranties? Hmmm...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
Its a bit of a leap of logic to link your personal battery issue with T-Mob discontinuing the phone. T-Mob has a good number of Android phones coming out in the near future, with T-Mob really ramping up their support of Android devices. So its been very reasonably speculated that they are discontinuing the G2 in order to make room in their lineup (and stockrooms, etc.) for the new phones.

I get a full day of moderate usage on my Vision, and can get close to 2 days with low usage. That's very typical for a modern smartphone. I usually get in the range of 2-3% battery drain per hour when the phone is idle. And that's with WiFi always on (even when not connected to a WiFi network) and auto sync of Gmail and HTC stock and weather apps. You haven't mentioned how long "overnight" is exactly, but I'll assume 8 hours or so. So your phone draining from 40% to dead overnight seems unusual. WiFi typically uses less battery then the cell data network, when WiFi is available. I suspect there is something else going on, besides just being on WiFi. If the cell reception is dodgey in your area (or fringe 3G reception), this might run the battery down (even if you are on WiFi) as the phone is constantly searching for signal. Or your radio may be mismatched to your custom ROM. Or you may just have a bad battery. Also, was the battery drain any different when you were on the stock or other custom ROMs? I personally haven't witnessed the battery drain to be significantly different across the ROMs I've tried. But that seems to vary, as there often seem to be people complaining about this or that ROM causing more battery drain.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EEaudio08:
The reason I thought it might be a hardware defect issue is that my wife and I got G2's at the same time. I rooted mine and have been running CM6.1.1 for a few months now, and my wife has kept hers stock. However, the battery issue hit both our phones at almost the exact same time.

It sounds ridiculous, but conspiracy theories are fun to play with. :) The fact that I've been rooted so long, and it JUST happened weirds me out. Add my wife's phone to the equation, and it's even weirder. I kept my phone on WiFi and 2G networks only last night (yeah, about 8 hours), and the exact same thing happened.

Maybe I should just get a new battery, I don't know. But I do religiously delete apps I don't use and make sure the ones I do use are syncing as minimally as possible.
[Streak 5 General] Krad:
Anyone know how to make the camera better? it is so blurry taking pics of people.
[Streak 5 General] RussianSolja:
Wait for the right developer to come along and port a new camera. Other then that we have no choice but to sit around and wait. Try posting question in the Q&A section next time :)
[Streak 5 General] Krad:
I don't see the QA section on my tapatalk on my streak. bizarre. Otherwise i would have posted it there.
[Streak 5 General] Krad:
just read on another forum that on the menu option for brightness, you have to scroll in the pop up window to get more options. One being the picture size. I had mine set to vga... now it is set to 5 megapixels. much better
[Streak 5 General] yid0:
Try Vignette. Loads of features but has a steadyshot option which works for me. Haven't used stock cam app for months
[Streak 5 General] chaosdefinesorder:
Camera360 is quite good, has lots of options and fine control over many things. It also has a number of good effects such as picking out a specific colour or "tilt-shift" perspective mode.

It also has a shake-reduction setting to prevent blurring!

The interface takes a bit of getting used to, but once you figure out where everything is, it's a good camera app!
[Streak 5 General] coreth5:
For taking pictures of people and other, moving, things, I really like fast camera. The resolution isn't great but it can take pictures as fast as you can hammer the camera button.
[Streak 5 General] mellojoe:
You can also try the "factory reset" option on your camera settings. I know it sounds weird, but after a "factory reset" I was taking better pictures. For some reason it was stuck on low quality, even though I had selected the 5M picture size. A reset got it working properly.
[Defy General] krst:
The UK 3.4.2-117 froyo showed up not to be as stable as first seen, some apps crash all time and the phone to from time to time, especially the screens keeps to timeout alot and sometimes freezing the phone totaly when doing it.

Anyway, when trying to install the sbf rom with eclair 2.51 with RDS i am able to install it but not able to make the phone to start after that. Any suggestions to why, is this due to the current 2.51 eclaire version beeing branded? I started out with a 2.21 version before going to the new gb froyo rom. Pherhaps not downgradable meant exactly what it said :)

Thanks for suggestion...!
[Defy General] naenee:
I have had no problems whatsoever with the UK Froyo release. In fact, I find it to be the smoothest release yet, as I have mentioned in its respective thread; Even without overclocking, it is a lot smoother than the Chinese Froyo and 2.34.1 and 2.21.0 before that. Ofcourse the quadrant 'score' is lower, but as I do not use my phone mainly for benchmarking, I do not mind in the slightest.

Anyway, before I go off-topic too far..

Have you made any modifications to the release after you put it on your phone? Did you perhaps not wipe the data/cache? Is it possible that you are overclocking your phone to such an extent that it is no longer stable?

And for some specifics - which applications crash all the time for you?

And indeed - you can not downgrade unless you've followed the instructions in this thread by Higgsy, but I doubt you have.

Incidentally, nor have I, but I have no problems whatsoever with this release and since we have the same phone, I suspect you have changed or installed something to cause your problems.
[Defy General] krst:
Hi!

Yes basically i got a new defy, UK retail, it was never rooted or anything and i just applied the new ROM with RDS. So no, I had not done any changes to the version what so ever and i reinstalled it twice, always making sure to offcoures wipe it also.

My main issue is actually that the screen times out alot, and sometimes locks the phone so i need to take the battery out. Also a music app (spotify) crash inevitably all time, it comunicates with the memory card as it catch up the music as you listen so thinkning that it may be some issue there. Have seen some of my other apps also force close, and this has never happen to me on this or my second (my gf's) defy i had had for some months now.

I to however are supprised about this as I can see that no other is experience this issue, espeically the screen timeout issue wich is very annoying and happens alot especially when using the browser :-)

Will try to find a new microSD card later tonight to see if my memory card pherhaps have been somehow dammaged during the ROM installation... (dont belive at all this would have happend but worth a try i guess)

Thanks