yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate General] bames:
If you are all about facts than why make an affirmative statement of which i highly suspect you will be proven wrong. Thats just my speculation but yours was nothing more either and if your all about facts you should reserve your speculation (+ i think time will prove me correct as my speculation is late Feb to Mid-march for the captivate 2.2 push at latest).
[Captivate General] agentfusion:
^ THIS.

I will be donating to Andromeda and TEAM KOMIN in 2 weeks. I've been using Andromeda 2.0 for a while now and it is perfect. I would donate today, but this payday is rent day too... so next payday is donation day!
[Captivate General] stoobie-doo:
I'm willing to bet we do not see this before Feb 13th based on the Inspire 4G press release http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=18976&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=31537&mapcode=consumer

Here's the money quote

the HTC Inspire 4G is the first to run the Android 2.2 platform and AT&T Mobile Hotspot application.​
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
From that page: "NOTE: AT&T recommends the software be kept up-to-date."

How ironic.:mad:
[Captivate General] SlappyMcGee:
Isn't Feb 14 suppose to be the big announcement for the US from Samsung at the conference?
[Captivate General] agh1701:
I agree, like the thread starter said 3rd quarter. It's all a bout markiting. Since AT$T's 4G is realy more like 3.5G, Upgrading the captivate will probably give us "4G"
[Captivate General] Jirv311:
Hmmm, that's very interesting. Especially considering that's part of the update instructions for JH7. Nice slip AT&T. :D
[Captivate General] rob989_69:
I have it on good authority that we're going to skip right over 2.2 and 2.3 and jump right to Honeycomb. Not only that but the update will unlock the Captivates 4G capabilities and we'll be getting anywhere from 20mbps to 50mbps down and 10mbps up. It will also automagically update our screens to the new Super AMOLED PLUS!! We'll be getting an extra 512mb of ram and a biometric fingerprint reader just like the Atrix.
[Captivate General] stoobie-doo:
You forgot about the pony
[Captivate General] rob989_69:
Ah, I did forget the Pony, unfortunately I'm told that will be included in a future update sometime around the turn of this century.
[Captivate General] cavsoldier19d:
This has to be the single most disapointing thing about Samsung phones. I am so thankful for the developers that put out 2.2 ROMS. So because of that, I will let the lack of Samsung's software updates slide for now. But for the common everyday user who wouldn't even know what a ROM is, they are left in the dust with 2.1. I only hope Samsung will learn off of this huge eff up and provide updates to its paying customers.
[Captivate General] bames:
samsung isn't without blame but i would be willing to bet at&t has had the firmware every bit as long as tmobile has (since late november) and they are already getting their froyo.....the finger should now squarely be pointed at ATT who has now likely had the firmware 2 months or longer.
[Captivate General] cavsoldier19d:
True. Both Att and Samsung are to blame at this point. Either way, this cannot continue to happen.
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
I wonder where I897UCJK1 2.2? falls in the numbering scheme time reference? My guess is that this is ready internally now... it should be by this point. Ah well. Probably get the Atrix and just sell the Captivate at this point.

Anyone see the story that the Galaxy Tablet has a 16% return rate? Ouch!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/galaxy_tab_dim_bulb_KbD4K6OUjTC99SQn2efrsJ
[Captivate General] cavsoldier19d:
Dam, thats not good. As far as the question of wether the manufacturer should release or wait...as long as the manufacturer can provide updates to gingerbread immediately when it becomes available. But given Samsungs track record...they were better off waiting.
[Captivate General] prayii:
Yup.. I was actually waiting for the official 2.2 release until the end of 2010. That was my breaking point. I realized I wasn't getting an official 2.2 anytime soon and jumped to XDA which I had been looking at occasionally. Now I am happily running 2.2 and wondering wtf I was thinking waiting on AT&T.

* Go XDA Go! *
[Captivate General] TheEscapist:
Samsung apparently released all the updates around mid-november, and us Roger's users got our upgrade already. I personally would say AT&T is holding out on you.
[Captivate General] tupirujp:
I'm running froyo already I live in Cali . And its not the leakversion

nani17
[Captivate General] bames:
wow

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[Captivate General] cappysw10:
Prove it, post screen shots.
[Captivate General] Mac11700:
Well..prove it then..download Shootme from the market..take a screen shot of it..upload it to photobucket or the like..and post a picture of it..It's that simple

Mac
[Captivate General] bames:
i say he is a troll hence you won't see a screenshot.

given the bad press and anger over the slow update....i highly doubt att would start a silent push without a press release patting itself on the back
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
Oh there's no doubt of that. AT&T will be screaming from the rooftops with all the hassle they've been getting.

We've been asking in his thread on General for a screen shot, nothing yet! http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=938616
[Captivate General] rob989_69:
I just got official Ice Cream OTA!!! It's only getting pushed out to people in NY apparently, only in Rochester. Only at my house. Only in my head. I WIN!!!!!!
[Captivate General] bames:
for the record he finally posted a screenshot in the other thread (now closed) and he is contrary to what he stated running the Leaked JI6 firmware. :eek:
[Captivate General] ArkieMD:
http://www.wireless.att.com/support...ting+Started&tutorialId=825930&deviceId=12000

Scroll to the bottom for firmware type...looks like the next froyo (official or leaked) for the Captivate will be UCJK1.

Also, another Galaxy S got froyo today:

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...msung-galaxy-s-gets-android-2-2-update-925541
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
:eek: You believe everything you see on the internet?

Plus another UK carrier pushing Froyo means nothing.
[Captivate General] crawt1:
ATT rep told me update would occur in May....
[Captivate General] TommyZee:
May of what year

OMG People, believe AT&T :confused: WHY ?????
[Captivate General] seclm193:
So is the 2.2 released or is that a teaser?
[Captivate General] bames:
AT&T Details Pricing, Launch of AT&T Mobile Hotspot App Coming February 13

http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=18930&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=31502&mapcode=wireless

my speculation is that we will see an announcement for the push sometime in the 1.5-2 weeks following the launch of this application. I think this also explains why despite having the firmware since mid-late nov. (like tmobile) att's push has been delayed/lagged behind tmobiles push a few weeks ago.
[Captivate General] jokes24:
"NOTE: AT&T recommends the software be kept up-to-date. Please continue with the section below for overview information and upgrade procedure."

:rolleyes:
[Captivate General] G-Man.:
+1 10 char
[Captivate General] dampeal:
I heard last night from an official anonymous source at AT&T that 2.2 is going to start rolling out today or tomorrow (6th or 7th)..

How true it is, we'll have to see....
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
I just want to know how an anonymous source could be official.
[Captivate General] shiftylock:
LOL. XD

I heard from an official anonymous source that life savers melt ice when you freeze them on windshields in winter. (seriously, don't try this. I'll feel terrible.)

I'm happy with what I have now. Besides, knowing AT$T, the update will include the following:

1) A new *updated* tethering app, that checks if you have tethering on your plan.

2) A shiny new AT&T navigator app that checks if you pay for navigation before letting you use Google Maps.

3) A sophisticated new AT&T Music app that checks for a subscription before letting you stream music from the web.

4) An innovative data usage app that counts MMS, because AT$T fired the employees who sit there and count your DataPro data. (they were too costly.)

5) An app that costs you $0.10 every time you click it. They gave up on creativity.

Is my point taken? I am enjoying my Precision rom with the JK4 modem. It just works.

/rant.
[Captivate General] dampeal:
Official in that they work for AT&T

Anonymous as in they don't want their name released

so Official Anonymous is what you get... get it now?!
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
oh, the janitor...
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
:D Can I laugh at you at the end of the day? :D
[Captivate General] peypey008:
I too had a nice little conversation with an "Android specialist" yesterday. Accept this guy told me to not hold my breath and pointed me over to XDA. I feel that if "all calls are recorded" he might be in a pickle :P
[Captivate General] dampeal:
Sure, go for it.. sorry for sharing.. I'll keep my mouth shut on things like that from now on...
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
Nothing personal.

With the Infuse coming out next week it wouldn't be in AT&T's best interest to all of the sudden push an update to us Captivate users. They'll wait to see how many "jump ship" before making that decision and keep telling you "We're working on ensuring that all Galaxy S owners enjoy a smooth update process....blah,blah". To them a smooth update process is buying a new phone.

Again, nothing personal.
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
Infuse won't come out for a while. It is Inspire that's coming out next week.

Inspire = Gloryfied EVO
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
My bad. 10 chars
[Captivate General] tahoeski:
How many threads does it take to come to the same conclusion: Stock ATT ROMs suck and will be uselessly filled with wallet raping bloatware. I can't wait to get rid of my Cappy. I have never had "great" GPS, and gone through 4 refurbs with shutdown issue. I am in the process of negotiating a switch to an ATRIX once it is released.

Thank g0d for the XDA community. I have been on here since my first WinMo phone and the community has never let me down! Keep it rocking XDA!!!
[Captivate General] bubbinator91:
It's not the rom itself that we're waiting for. It's the source code behind it. Once we have the official 2.2 rom, we'll have source soon after, which means that we'll finally get custom kernels using the actual source for the AT&T captivate. This means no more reorient code and other hacks to get i9000 kernels to work on our phone. It'll also mean that we can actually utilize our hardware noise canceling chip.
[Captivate General] fldude99:
What makes you think the Atrix won't be filled with "wallet raping bloatware"? Until we can buy a true, unlocked, unbranded handset, it's all the same BS
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
9pm eastern and no update.... i certainly am not surprised. :)
[Captivate General] vaiol123:
Darnit you're giving them ideas :P
[Captivate General] tahoeski:
Oh, I know the Atrix will try to rape my wallet with typical ATT junk. I just want no more of Samsuck. *damn autocorrect!

Now I am just hoping for an unlocked bootloader to speed up custom ROM development on the Atrix.

@fldude99 - Move along troll :-)
[Captivate General] rpicaso:
Well your Authority must not be that good then, as honeycomb will be for tablets only..but there is a light at the end of that tunnel, as the captivate phones will be able to transform into tablets with a simple OTA update from AT$T:D:p:p
[Captivate General] fldude99:
Up yours DB..what did I ever do or say to you
[Captivate General] rpicaso:
Let's not get the flaming started up..
[Captivate General] fshalor:
RE: Might as well have skipped Froyo.

I'm not sure Samsung's android department is up to reading changelogs and such. They should really have just skipped ahead to 2.3 at this point. Or at least gone back and *fixed* 2.1 even after android let them know they had a broken SSL implementation.
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
I did get BGR to post this in hopes of forcing AT&T hand

http://www.bgr.com/2011/02/08/att-s...vate-running-android-2-2-proves-its-possible/
[Captivate General] Mr. Clown:
I'm monitoring the thread, If this happens some actions will be taken.
[Captivate General] ScottyNuttz:
Looks like Phandroid picked it up today too

http://phandroid.com/2011/02/08/whats-this-att-showing-froyo-on-the-captivate-right-under-our-noses/

It's getting retweeted like mad, maybe they'll at least dish out a nugget of info...
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
/flameoff

When will you get it through your head, it's not Samsung's fault. AT&T is holding up the update because they want to sell new phones. I'll even bet they're hoping to get a few upset Craptivate jockeys to buy off contract. You think they'll give you a special price on that? :eek:

/flameon
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
I asked Samsung and got this reply:

Good morning! I apologize but we can't speculate why AT&T's page displays that, only that 2.2 hasn't been released. ^Sabrina

Then this:

For questions about at&t's site, please contact @ATTCustomerCare. Samsung has not released Froyo for the Captivate. ^Mary

I replied with this:

@GalaxySsupport @ATTCustomerCare this is the first time Samsung has said that this is their fault. Although, ATT got Froyo somewhere.

Then I finnally heard this:

Meaning Samsung has not released 2.2 for Captivate users. ^Mary

So - she is saying it has been released, but not to the users... now it implies AT&T is to blame... which is usually the case... The carriers hold it up.
[Captivate General] Tintillo:
thank you alphadog00. I reported the link in other sub threads with the hope that one can find out about the modem i897ucjk1.

I was using bberry with ATT and the only way to get current software was to update the phone to the newest one. I had a bberry 9700 running os 6.0 before att last oficial update to 5.3.

I will not be surprise that we will get the oficial froyo from att after Android 3.0 becomes obsolete.;)
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
UCJK1 is a late Nov build. There is no guarantee that the final release (if we ever see it) will be that version. I first posted this screen shot back in Jan 20 (http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10767850&postcount=9) which comes from an AT&T forum poster.

So for all we knew, this screen shot maybe up there for month or two already.

I remembered we saw BlackJack1 WM 6.0 screen shot on AT&T site as well. But the actual ROM was released about 6 months later, after BlackJack 2 already released.
[Captivate General] lyrad12:
at&t is still bc putting their bloat apps to the official release of froyo, maybe they cant get it work with their bloatwares that's why it took so long to release the update XD
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
The latest Verizon leak is Froyo 2.2.1. That UCJK1 is Froyo 2.2. And released Vibrant and Rogers are 2.2 as well. Let's just hope that this delay means they are waiting on stable build of 2.2.1 OS. But that probably is a pipe dream.
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
The only reason I want ATT to release 2.2 is that we get an official build and then sourcecode to build off of. I don't want the bloatware any more then anyone else.
[Captivate General] SlappyMcGee:
At this point I am starting to believe it is a pipe dream. Hell I have stopped checking the forums for updates on 2.2. I am hoping Samsungs big announcement this month has something to do with it but at the same time I doubt it.
[Captivate General] phrebh:
Don't count on it

My cousin works for AT&T and what he said is that Samsung is delaying Froyo on all of their Galaxy S phones in the States because the carriers won't pay for it. Essentially, Samsung is saying that it's not a basic upgrade, but a major upgrade (I don't remember the exact terminology), and so it's not included in the free upgrades that are part of any contract between the carriers and Samsung. The carriers are pushing back and to my knowledge, none of them has caved in the hope that they can get it for free if they put enough pressure on Samsung.

In other words, the nihilistic attitudes of all of us who've been so excited to get the upgrade are correct.
[Captivate General] richb500:
Samsung already publicly addressed that rumor and said absolutely they are not charging for the update. I believe they also said carriers have had the code since Nov (although they now seem to be backpeddling on that).
[Captivate General] kampan:
the thing i learnt here is that, don't even bother to get the US version of Samsung Android device, should go straight ahead to get the worldwide version.
[Captivate General] bames:
your cousin is wrong...rumor already debunked

one US carrier Tmobile has already pushed 2.2 to their galaxy s variant.
[Captivate General] tnayrbj:
could be

They may be talking about the Myan calendar, and hopefully they beat the end of the word in 2012 with the update. LOL
[Captivate General] Harveythedog:
I choose to believe they're using the Australian financial year....Still almost two months of the third quarter to go. :)
[Captivate General] TommyZee:
HaHa

al gore invented the internet, pigs can fly, lucy you got some splainin to do :eek:
[Captivate General] dagreek05:
LoL at ATT Android Specialist.........ATT barely knows what Android is hah

___________________________________________________________________

ATT : Good afternoon, thanks for choosing ATT how can I help you?

Customer : Yeah I was wondering when the Captivate will get Froyo 2.2?

ATT : Let me consult an ATT Specialist, one moment please.......

"Rep puts customer on hold...........looks at his flow chart........lets see......froyo......froyo.....why the hell are they asking about yogurt.....they know this is a phone company right.....ok ok......iphone.....iphone.....iphone......iphone.....ahh here it is.......android FroYo..... (Tell customers its Samsungs fault and that it will be available soon).....

ATT: Sir?

Customer : Yeah im here........man took you a long time, you must have talked to a ton of people

ATT : Yeah.....yeah... I talked to the ATT Specialist........its Samsungs fault and it will be available soon.....

Customer : Ohh ok thanks!

1 YEAR LATER...........

ATT : Good afternoon, thanks for choosing ATT how can I help you?

Customer : Yeah I was wondering when the Captivate will get Froyo 2.2?

ATT : Let me consult an ATT Specialist, one moment please.......

"Rep puts customer on hold...........looks at his flow chart........lets see......froyo......froyo.....why the hell are they asking about yogurt.....they know this is a phone company right.....ok ok......iphone.....iphone.....iphone......iphone.....ahh here it is.......android FroYo..... (Tell customers its Samsungs fault and that it will be available soon).....

ATT: Sir?

Customer : Yeah im here........man took you a long time, you must have talked to a ton of people

ATT : Yeah.....yeah... I talked to the ATT Specialist........its Samsungs fault and it will be available soon.....

Customer : Ohh ok thanks!
[Captivate General] mobileseq:
If they never release offical 2.2 upgrade by end of this year, Im gonna have to flash this phone to something else, ha.
[Captivate General] sremick:
Just because we finally get a 2.2 firmware eventually doesn't mean we'll also get the source code.
[Captivate General] gunnyman:
Actually it does. They are bound to do so according to the GPL. Which is the licensing agreement the manufacturers have with Google
[Captivate General] nkrick:
Unless Samsung wants to violate the GPL (linux kernel licensing) and the Apache license (what Android is licensed under), they are REQUIRED to release the source code. That is what Open Source is all about...you can modify and release your own compiled applications, but you must release the source code used to create those applications.
[Captivate General] nkrick:
Actually, Android uses the Apache software license, not the GPL, but any linux kernel falls under the GPL.
[Captivate General] jerseykirby:
That will be the day they release that OS update. I can't count how many days I have waited for the 6.0 update for my work 9700 to come out from At&t.......they are very sluggish. Glad my Captivate is a personal phone so I can do as I please with it.
[Captivate General] gunnyman:
To-MAY-to /To-MAH-to :D
[Captivate General] naoumis1:
This is from a few minutes ago my conversation with a samsung rep....

Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.

You are now chatting with 'Quinn'

Visitor: hello quinn

Quinn: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?

Visitor: i have the captivate from att

Visitor: 2 questions

Visitor: what's the story 2.2

Visitor: i'm sure you are getting this question quite a lot

Quinn: I understand that you would like to know the information regarding the Android 2.2 upgrade on the handset. Am I correct ?

Visitor: yes

Quinn: Yes, we do get this question.

Quinn: Thank you for the confirmation.

Quinn: Unfortunately, as of now there is no official information on the release date of the Android 2.2 from Samsung and you will be notified by the carrier and in the Samsung website when/if the update is released. We are unable to speculate when/if a software revision might be available due to the fact that this might lead to inaccurate information and confusion.

Visitor: when i bought this phone back in august

Visitor: one of the main reasons was that i was told by att and samsung an upgrade was imminent in the fall

Quinn: I apologize for the inconvenience caused.

Quinn: Once we have any updated information on 2.2 update release, it will be posted on Samsung websites. Please keep checking the Samsung website for any further information on it.

Visitor: the problem is i have been checking on the websites

Visitor: and right now my phone is becoming fast outdate

Visitor: outdated

Visitor: as I use this in my work

Visitor: the capabilities that i was promised with froyo

Visitor: are not there

Quinn: I understand your concern.

Visitor: with all do respect... in another 6 months i will be eligible for an upgrade the way things are going

Visitor: and right now my productivity is being hindered

Quinn: Once the update is released you can update the device with the Android 2.2.

Visitor: no offense Quinn but it is quite obvious that when the update is released i will be update the the device. however will it be 2.2 or 2.3 that i will be updating too? i extremely dissapointed with samsung and thier handling of this mater.

Quinn: As we are in chat support, we are not sure about future updates and software from our end. Once's the update is ready to release, we can provide the details from our end
[Captivate General] ricethief:
Same old story. I love the reps closing response, that made me chuckle. I kinda feel bad for their support reps. It must suck to have to deal with this everyday and have no control over it.
[Captivate General] geokilla:
What's wrong with the Rogers Froyo Source? No love for Canadians?
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
The phones are different and the source is different - in some low level stuff. That is why we can't reliably run the full blown canadian ROM
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
@naoumis1 - why exactly did you post that? That has been the line for months... if something new was said, then it would interesting.

Get an answer from AT&T and then you may have some news.
[Captivate General] geokilla:
Uh no... the Canadian Captivate is the same as the AT&T Captivate last I checked. Only difference is the model number and the lack of audience chip.

What is the source supposed to be for anyways? I know source isn't firmware or ROM stuff.
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
You're contradicting yourself.:) So the hardware IS different.