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[EVO 4G General] GatoEnFuego:
Same here... I live in Mesa and it's "so-so" but I work in downtown Phoenix and after 10am it's worthless.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I can barely download apps from the market or browse the internet anymore. This is absolutely ridiculous. If this isn't resolved by June, I'm ready to roam my ass off on large files.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
My replacement will be here today ( I know it's not the phone) if my data is still in the ****ter illegal start all over with the emails

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
just got my phone call back from Dans office and she admitted to me as well of a national outage and would try and touch base with me every few days till it is resolved lol.
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
I don't think there's national outage.

Just as I expected, the speeds are back to less than 200 kbps (usually less than 100 kbps). It's 10:30am and my speeds are about 100 kbps. Just last night around 1:30am, it was around 1000 kbps. I can't use 3G data at home between 8am-midnight because of the pathetic speeds. If this doesn't get fixed soon, I'll just keep downloading large files every night while sleeping.
[EVO 4G General] :
i could see how this might be a much more widespread problem, people just aren't noticing it. most people think phones should be much slower than their home internet and many probably dont do speed tests. sprint could advertise 3mbps down and people wouldnt complain because they wouldnt ever check like some of us do. we are clearly among the most phone crazed, but its our right to get advertised speeds.

sprint has mentioned going to a unified system with 3g band, 4g band, and whatever other bands they have (some nextel-related stuff, etc.) all on the same towers, rather than 4g on separate Clear towers. now if sprint sold the majority of its 3g towers to towerco in 2008 when they were nearly bankrupt, i could see how they might have a coverage problem at this time. my guess is that they arent throttling, instead theyre just at half capacity or something while they convert existing towers (which ones? the towerco/3g ones? the clear/4g ones?) to these nee unified towers.

there should be a roadmap somewhere for this project rollout, but as far as i know it hasnt been leaked online (maybe because until now nobody has cared). the rollout was to be handled in different regions by different companies: ericksson in one part of the country, lucent in another part (these might not actually be two of the companies, but there is company and region info out there in articles). so, this work could definitely reduce bandwidth significantly, especially in bigger cities which i assume would account for random periodic reductions in bandwidth while these companies are messing with the hardware and software on the towers. maybe they cant help it and sprint wants it quiet, maybe one or more of the contract companies are screwing it up.

we need to contact wireless engineers who work for these contract teams on the sprint unified tower project because i would bet they know the most about our problem.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
The thing is .. sprints "advertised " 3g speeds are 500-700 kbps....

So yes some aren't getting that.... but a lot are.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
No, it's 600 kbps-1.4 Mbps on their website. And it's not that we're not getting it everywhere. It's that we're not getting anywhere near those speeds anywhere that matters.
[EVO 4G General] :
their advertised speeds are actually 600kbps to 1400kbps down as indicated if you go to their coverage map and read what it says next to the map, i posted a link with the exact url a couple pages back
[EVO 4G General] :
okay just now i did multiple speedtests in my apartment and am getting 1100kbps down, 500kbps up! wtf, i have never seen speeds like that.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I'm not expecting 1+ Mbps speeds everywhere I go. Just 600+ kbps everywhere I go. Anything lower is unacceptable.
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
lol their "advanced tech" lied to me then haha.
[EVO 4G General] Ragster:
Getting 1mb on 3G and 7mb on 4G here. I live in the Bay Area (East Bay), CA. The only things I've changed are that adfree thing because I'm on RLS5, the 0.0.0.0 thing and changed my home agent to San Jose.
[EVO 4G General] parmend:
I live in fort worth tx and when I do a speed test its says its using new Orleans Louisiana is that normal .
[EVO 4G General] alaman68:
I live in Philly and speed test sends me to Wichita... My 3G speeds suck regardless

220 kbps down is average
[EVO 4G General] :
I always used to get wrong location on speedtest.net app until changing my home user agent (i made a post about it) from 255.255.255.255 to a nearby location. you can change the speedtest server manually in the options.
[EVO 4G General] giograves:
Man, I hate the fact that I pay Sprint for "premium" data and it simply is too inconsistent.

3G in my part of Brooklyn is horrendous. So I flip on the 4G radio. That actually has good speeds (maybe because not as many people using the 4G towers) but what good is it if the coverage is spotty. Sheesh, I just want to listen to radiotime when I'm driving without cutting in and out of data service.

- Sent from my HTC eVo with Tapatalk
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Brooklynite here too. What part?
[EVO 4G General] phillysdon04:
Philadelphia

3G

Download 0.24 Mbps

Upload 0.32 Mbps

ping 134 ms

I have no 4g connection in my house.
[EVO 4G General] :
a couple hours later and now im back to <200kbps down and <100kbps up. 999ms pings.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
On top of slow speeds, the issue seems to be consistency.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
Just ran several 3g speed tests here myself using www.speakeasy.net.

From the chicago, dallas, and atlanta locations I get ~200-300 kbps download, and < 100 kbps upload. Speedtest.net results are similar. Ping times are 400-450 ms. It's saturday afternoon, chicago.

Changing the home agent to chicago did help with the ping times. Testing the chicago server I get pings in the 200ms range. Downloads now ~200kbps, up ~180kbps

Dallas - 840 kbps down , 220kbps up. But even here, results are extremely inconsistent.

Lets hope what ever upgrades sprint's NOC has entailed will help this situation in the near future. These results are abysmal.
[EVO 4G General] david914:
No issue, I just meant that they were more then helpful and called pretty much exactly when I wanted.
[EVO 4G General] Smac7:
Try rocking 30k for 5 months. That's allendale MI right now.

Sent from the xda app on my htc evo
[EVO 4G General] ewynn9:
I'm getting 1 mbps down .7 mbps up here in Dallas
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
Switched back to the sprint prl to see if anything was better, since the verizon one keeps dropping 3g for minutes at a time...

Today's ****ty sprint 3G speedz clock in at 31 down, 19 up, and 896 L. Mmmm, nice and slow, just how I like it. NOT. Get the **** with it, Sprint!!!
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
From inside my house by a window, I get 1.8 Mbps down and 700 kbps up. That's great. Issue is when I'm home I use wifi since it's faster and uses less battery and Sprint's signal won't come into my house. Yesterday a few blocks down I got up to 100 kbps down. When I called Sprint tech support to ask what was going on, the woman said they're working on more than one tower in the area and there is no ETA. I should be getting a call back tomorrow from Tia at Dan Hesse's office for an update.
[EVO 4G General] :
tell her there are dozens of us that would like regional updates as well. im to the point where to tether i place my phone between the window and outer screen with the cord trailing in just to get an extra 50 to 100kbps down, but it doesn't really work
[EVO 4G General] :
i now strongly believe in some cases (mine) this could simply be a case of ridiculously overloaded towers. it seems like whenever i test my speeds in the middle of the night i get great speeds. 3am in chicago and im getting 1000kbps down, 600kbps up and 150ms or less latency. i guarantee tomorrow during the day it will be 1/4 these speeds.
[EVO 4G General] giograves:
This is along the lines of the general "consensus"/"urban lore" that as soon as the iphone hit Verizon, data speeds would tank over time just like it did on ATT.
[EVO 4G General] LargePrime:
I also see great speeds overnight, and major suckage daily.

I don't think it is the towers. I think it is the backhaul. I think the current tower upgrading process is exacerbating the backhaul congestion.

Has anyone looked at their routing? during the day it is seems often crazy. Which makes me think they are rerouting the backhaul.
[EVO 4G General] :
could backhaul work be tower or towers specific too? if sprint doesn't fix this by the time im supposed to get a call back (today or tomorrow), im going to do an extensive test on multiple towers and at multiple times of day.
[EVO 4G General] :
Start trace google.com (from my phone in chicago)

1:68.28.153.69

time: 108, 98.8, 130

2:68.28.153.91

time: 131, 106, 129

3:68.28.137.196

time: 109, 107, 114

4:68.28.157.70

time: 136, 107, 104

5:144.223.137.189(sl-crs2-kc-0-15-0-0.sprintlink.net)

time: 120, 108, 108

6:144.232.18.6(sl-crs2-chi-0-5-0-1.sprintlink.net)

time: 154, 135, 133

7:144.232.20.21(sl-st21-chi-11-0-0.sprintlink.net)

time: 137, 124, 125

8:74.125.49.226

time: 130, 125, 146

9:209.85.254.120

time: 150, 138, 133

10:72.14.232.141

time: 152, 242, 134

11:209.85.241.27

time: 139, 127, 144

12:72.14.239.18

time: 158, 154, 135

13:209.85.225.104(iy-in-f104.1e100.net)

time: 142, 137, 170

Trace complete

...that looks like a really long route to me, but i dont really know much about it to be honest
[EVO 4G General] oliverr871:
I just got an EVO two days ago and noticed the slow 3G speeds. It was like 1X but slower. I tried the fix mentioned in the OP but it did not work at all.

The fix that worked well for me was setting going into the EVDO menu and setting the Preferred Mode to Automatic instead of CDMA only. CDMA HDR Only seems to do the same thing as well which was have the speeds generally over 1000kbps. My download speeds boosted instantly without changing those address numbers. I did change it, but it didn't do anything for me. I am using 60676 and downloaded all the latest updates.

Default is CDMA only. My fastest speed in Automatic mode was 2076 kbps.
[EVO 4G General] :
I actually dont believe default is cdma only. default for me is automatic. ive never changed it, and even did a restore/reset of epst values. it's been on automatic with terrible speeds.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
They seemed to fix the speeds in most places around where I go. They might be upgrading towers everywhere. I can hit 1.4-1.8 Mbps down in most places on campus where I used to hit like 100 kbps and even close to my home. There are still some places that need work but I'm starting to believe they're really working on it.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Got a call back from a Dwayne at Dan Hesse's office, said he'd call me back tomorrow at 12 pm because he hasn't gotten updates from the engineers yet. I also made sure to mention the Sprint Premier Gold f*ckup they made. I said a lot of people are leaving Sprint because they would have qualified for it before the change. I told him, the 3000 minute Everything Data plan would be the only qualifier for family plans, and he agreed. And then I said, "well why would anyone pay that much when mobile to mobile is free?". He said this change was requested by a lot of longtime users, which is true if you look at the Sprint Community forums. But it just doesn't make sense. But they didn't give long-time customers anything new. All they did was create an unnecessary and higher cutoff for those who would have qualified for yearly upgrades, so that they would feel more special than customers who were getting the same benefits. WHO CARES IF YOU'VE BEEN WITH SPRINT FOR 20 YEARS? IF I PAY ENOUGH, I DESERVE IT TOO.
[EVO 4G General] punta21107:
I notice that my phone won't go back to EVDO coverage unless I reboot. Otherwise once it moves to 1xRTT, I'm stuck.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
The other thing about using the Verizon prl is, I now get 3x the battery life. I used to only get 8 hours of battery life and now I can get 24+!

And I don't even have better signal at home.
[EVO 4G General] NYCguy2020:
+1

I love me some Verizon prl....out of the four different ones i've tried,the 01337 is by far the best.i have no issues at all with call,msgs or data services.i get 1800-2500 kbps dl consistantly regardless of location or time of day.:D
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Hmmmm.....
[EVO 4G General] :
getting 1000kbps down, 800kbps up in chicago northern suburbs after a getting a tenth of that in the city this morning before i drove out here.
[EVO 4G General] :
...and im getting those speeds with a ##debug# rx signal strength of 93 and rx power of -95.50

arent those equal to a poor connection (being distant from a tower)?

at home i have rx power of -89.50 or so and thats where the speeds suck. seems backwards i think.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
Well just as i thought new phone same less than dial up speeds

Duh.. from the best phone out........ EVO
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I'm getting a call from Dwayne at Dan Hesse's office in about an hour, so I'll let you guys know what happens.
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
If they're nice and it seems right, ask if 30k down (half of dialup), missed phone calls, ect. for months in a whole metro area is enough to get a pass on the etf, please.
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
I received a call yesterday from the lady at Dan's office again. She told me the engineers figured out the tower by my house isn't outputting data as it should. She said it would be fixed, by JUNE 30th!! 3 months!!

She also offered to give me a free Epic, as a replacement. I asked her, if the problem is with the network, then why would I need a different (crappier) phone? She was silent.

So after a little talk about giving me some discounts on my bill, I asked her what was going on with all the other towers in my area. She was confused, as she thought I was only having problems at home. To which I replied, the email I sent clearly stated I was having problems everywhere, not just at home, and that I had also told her this personally when she called last week.

So to sum things up, Sprint is giving me a bullsh*t excuse, and telling me it will be months before this issue is cleared up.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
**** that, ask her to sign you up for Sprint Premier Gold. That's a free yearly upgrade. Unless you constantly game on your phone, the Epic sucks compared to the Evo. Buggy as hell and the hardware is crap, plus it's probably not getting past 2.2.
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
Which is exactly why I told her I didnt want it haha. I actually did ask if I could be upgraded to Gold, so that way when a newer (more comparable) phone comes out, I could upgrade to that. She said she would look into it.
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
Got call from Sprint, finally, about a week after the first call. The guy told me the Sprint engineers came and fixed the issue at the tower, they thought it was over-capacity or something. However, my speed tests are still horrible. Had me doing the same ##DEBUG# thing. So nothing really changed or happened from the last time I talked to him.
[EVO 4G General] ultra74:
Not sure if anyone has posted this, but...

I've been having horrendous 3G speeds 100-200K in Milwaukee. It was not like this with my touch pro 2 before october.

Went to Gurnee IL over the weekend and 3G was brutal at best. 4G was spotty. It was bad all around!

Anyways, until January, I was on PRI 1.77 and upgraded to the latest radio/pri/nv combo with 1.90 and got a speed boost 600-800 average. I did not keep 1.90 and reverted, ONLY my pri, to 1.77. Because I started having bad battery life.

Battery life was fixed again, but speeds were spotty and down. Fast forward to now.

I just upgraded the complete combo again and speeds are back to 600-800. I did multiple tests this AM before upgrading and was only able to get 100-200 at best before.

Can anyone post their radio/pri versions?
[EVO 4G General] :
radio: 11.19

wimax: 27167

nv: 1.90

pri: 1.90

prl: 60676

rom: stock rooted joeykrim 5.1

hw: 0003

<200kbps down some places, >1000kbps down others. convinced its specific to parts of the network, varies dramatically by time of day and location even within a city, has to be related to network capacity, backhaul, etc.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
So despite the fact that I told the guy to call at 12 pm and he said he would, it's 1:15 and I still haven't gotten a call. Thanks Dwayne...Same thing yesterday. 2 hours late.
[EVO 4G General] GatoEnFuego:
You act surprised. :p
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Given how far this has gone, I am a little surprised. He better not call me during my History course. I have a test today. That's why I told him to call me at 12 pm.
[EVO 4G General] dinoman22:
Internal Credit based score A-Z (Z =bad)

i.e A5

A =great phone credit worthiness,

5 =lines available (no deposit)

This is different than fico, and actual credit score.

My girl has A5, her real life credit score is bad though. 630 Although she always paid her cell on time...
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Good to know. I never got my call back btw guys. I have the hut's direct number so ill call after my test that I'm going to be late for.

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Still never got my call back. I called his number, left voicemail. 10 minutes later (just now) I get a call back from another woman who says he wasn't in today and that she doesn't have access to his email to check on the ticket. So I told her to call me back tomorrow between 2 and 4 pm. They'd better offer each of us something after this. I'm thinking Premier Gold membership.

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] Hrshycro:
I'm thinking free service until they get the towers fixed. Maybe that will shorten their eta on the fixes.

Changed my prl back to sprints at school...4 it 5 bars clear thru town and .4 to 1300 down, 400 - 600 up. Couldn't believe it. Doubt the tower by my house will ever get upgraded. Stupid ****s pick the one, 25 foot deep hole on the whole hill range. In fact, I look around down and all of their towers aare in cheap, stupid ducking spots.
[EVO 4G General] :
daniel.r.hesse@sprint.com

is the real one
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Oh man. I gotta thank you when I get home. Although I think this is a big issue, I would never send an email to him directly unless it was all of us sending it and linking to this thread. If they don't resolve it quickly though, ill be sure to escalate it ;)

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] :
if it remains unresolved, a class action lawsuit wouldnt be out of the question. i seriously doubt he even reads that email himself though. i mean, once it hits xda or elsewhere it'll be so bombarded he'll need a team and will just pass it on to his other email team.
[EVO 4G General] parmend:
Just tested mine and its pretty snappy download 1871 and upload is 705. How do post photos on xda through the app? Just tried and it said not a valid image file . I used shoot me and it says its a jpeg
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Yeah you're right. We're paying extra and getting less in return. But I don't doubt that's his actual email address. I just want the issue fixed and I want compensation. Data is fast in places that don't matter. By the highway, random places I pass on the bus, my campus cafeteria. Pretty much anywhere else. I average 300 Kbps and lower (as low as 20 kbps). Consistency is also an issue because once in a blue moon ill think the issue is fixed when the tower by my house outputs 1.4 to 1.8 Mbps down. 2 speedtest later I'm down to 300 kbps.

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
I'm not sure if my 3G speed is fixed or not, but right now I am getting normal to good 3G speeds. Usually around this time, I would get less than 200 kbps.

Now, what I did was I did factory reset using Amom-RA recovery, wiped data, cache, and Dalvik-cache; followed that up with Caulkin's Format all zip. Then I powered off the phone. Rebooted into recovery and did the same wipes again. Afterwards, I flashed the CM7 Nightly 14 and latest Gapps. Now my GPS is working fine and my 3G speed has improved drastically.

May want to give it a shot.
[EVO 4G General] :
thanks for this update. can you please tell me what hardware version, pri, prl, nv, wimax radio, and regular radio you have? im gonna run some stock rooted sense speedtests then try cm7 too.
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
I believe I have hardware version 2. Everything else is updated to the latest radios, prl, pri, nv.

I didn't flash a sense rom after I wiped those things in that order. I just flashed CM7.

I'll update the speed tomorrow morning and see if it stays similar.
[EVO 4G General] mxl180:
i'm curious if anyone 3G speeds are faster than 4G?
[EVO 4G General] :
cool, i just happen to be on stock rooted sense now so that will be the baseline for my speedtests. downloading cm and gapps now.

my 4g is at least twice my 3g, when im able to get 4g (1000-2000kbps down, 500-1000kbps up on 4g with latency 65 to 150ms)
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Data speeds shouldn't be affected by what ROM you're on unless there are some changes in the code that could cause slowdown. But I'm on Myn's ROM right now. I reverted the hosts.txt file back to normal. Other than that, it's a stock ROM underneath the hood with some performance tweaks. I've even ran SpeedTest on a bone-stock ROM and gotten around the same results.
[EVO 4G General] :
Unbelievable. CM7 nightly #14 seems to have improved my speeds dramatically over stock rooted sense. I had switched to a stock rooted rom to tether on 4g because cm didn't have it at the time. I followed the instructions for wiping and flashing that someone just posted a few posts back (thank you jblazea50!) - here's exactly what i did:

backup contents of sdcard to pc using USB cable, then delete everything from sdcard while mounted over USB except format all zip.

reboot into amonra 2.3 recovery, choose every option from wipe submenu: wipe all data, wipe data, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, wipe boot, wipe battery stats... every one on the list.

from main menu in amonra, flash zip, choose caulkin’s (sp?) FormatAll.zip

power off. boot into recovery, wipe all data/factory reset, wipe data, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache.

mount USB from amonra main menu, copy cm7 nightly #14 and latest gapps (dated March 2011) to sdcard from PC.

flash cm7 #14 nightly, without rebooting flash latest gapps.

reboot. when cm7 loads, login to Google account. unchecked both options for reporting data anonymously to Google, or using location or whatever... unchecked them both.

unchecked both cm Google account backup/restore options.

waited for cm7 to load, canceled option to download certain apps, just said will do it manually later.

waited for sync icon to disappear from taskbar. in meantime, changed background and rearranged some icons on desktop.

downloaded speedtest.net app, and ran some tests.

==========================

I did five tests on rooted stock sense in one location, then five more in another location at around 7:10PM

I then did ten tests on cm7 nightly #14 in the *exact* same two locations (five tests each) at around 8:00PM

stock rooted sense speedtest.net results:

(Average, Best, Worst)

Download: 428kbps, 684kbps, 145kbps

Upload: 26kbps, 90kbps, 0kbps

Latency/Ping: 204ms, 165ms, 268ms

cm7 nightly #14 speedtest.net results:

(Average, Best, Worst)

Download: 896kbps, 1390kbps, 579kbps

Upload: 97kbps, 237kbps, 26kbps

Latency/Ping: 159ms, 136ms, 178ms

I have never seen such fast downloads in my apartment as I just did with cm7. 1390kbps is amazing for me... I'm in shock. I'm gonna go post this in the CM7 nightly thread. Still don't know what's up with the upload, but its no worse than sense and I like the better ping times too. Kind of wonder if the wiping and format all zip, followed by powering down and then wiping again had anything to do with it.