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[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tommy p:
I couldnt find another thread like it, so decided to make one, mainly to see if everyone, or just some people have a phone that pretty much takes just about everything you throw at it and then some.

I bought mine brand new out of contract (I wasnt due for a upgrade for a long time) a few days after it was released, and Ive had the same one ever since. Its been through alot, I dont consider myself to be anywhere near a n00b with the phone anymore, but looking back, putting, or attempting to put, some of the things I did on there, flashing God knows what, deleting important things that probably should never be deleted, etc.

I used to have this "try it first, read about it later" thing going on, but once I switched it around, I learned alot. Im still learning alot.

Maybe one day when they start giving me medicine for ADD I can give developing a shot lol.

So have you had to send yours back yet to get a new one? Had it all this time? Just got it recently? From my experience you have to mess up pretty bad to actually brick one of these phones.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GreggoryD502:
I've had mine since sept 2010. I've had to use odin once. Been stuck.in a few a few bootloops. Other then that its been a great phone. My first rom was bionix 1.9 with jacs oc /uv kernel. Its taken everything I've thrown at it.

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[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GreggoryD502:
I did return mine because it was hardware locked. The new one was unfortunately locked also. But the ota update to ji6 fixed it for me.

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[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] duboi97:
I've had mine since last week because I traded it for my mytouch slide and yesterday I rooted, bricked, and rooted again. My first rom was bionix v :P and I don't think I can send it in for a replacement ...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tommy p:
My first ROM was Obsidian, then I almost immediatley switched to Onyx. I didnt switch to a custom ROM for a while because for the most part I changed and edited the framework myself. Then I decided to say screw that, lol.

The one thing my phone wont take is a OC kernel. It works for about 2 minutes then decides to freeze up and I usually have to flash the stock kernel back. Ive tried just 1280, up to 1400 and it doesnt want any part of it. Which doesnt matter I guess. I only have about 1GB used of the 20GB available to the phone, so its fast enough.

Also, as far as Odin, Ive only HAD to use it twice, but every once in a while I like to back everything up, Format everything in CWR and go back to JFD, to kind of "start fresh".
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meng8833:
I've had mine since late july or early august, can't remember which. But it kept powering off randomly so I did get it replaced in november i believe. I didn't start rooting/flashing until december because i was scared as **** about messing something up. I use to hate the vibrant and all its laggyness/gps issues but the devs have allowed me to have a usable phone again!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmo879:
I've had mine since early september, I just recently got another one, I was complaining about my data always not connecting and t mobile went ahead and sent me another phone. Turns out I was just being throttled lol. I really have no problem with the vibrant, even before the froyo update when everyone hated their vibrant since they didn't have the update, its never bothered me, especially with all the custom roms everywhere anyway :)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meng8833:
This is starting to sound like a "vibrants anonymous" support group.. not that i've ever been to AA LOL
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bdveteran18:
Had mine since july 16th. This is still my original one. I've flashed countless .zips. flashed about 10 ROMS. Used ODIN once. Taken it apart a few times to install and adjust the ffc. All of that and it still runs like a champ. Aside from the gps which used to work and now doesn't, I've had minimal problems with my device.

Sexy Vibrant featuring Nero V3 w/Voodoo, and FFC installed
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ccmks:
Hi, since I flashed my HD2 from windows mobile into Android I was not able to use the phone options menu (silent mode, airplane mode, reboot, power off, etc). Every time I touch it but it doesn't receive my touch. In other words, I can't shut down my phone, I can't reboot unless I pull out the battery ( I don't want to use the 3rd party to do that, I just want it function in the normal way).

I tried to flash other build and I got the same result. I also tried to flash back to windows mobile and try to run android from SD card, it also gave me same result. I tried to flash back to android, I also got same result.

What should I do? I am looking forward to see the solution

Thank you very much
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Psaldorn:
I'm also having this issue.

At first I thought it might be the ROM I was using (disabling the touch input on 'end call' button 'down' not 'release' event, but I noticed it's happening in WinMo6.5 too.

I haven't changed the Radio ROM or anything recently.. seems a very specific issue to be hardware though?

Anyone have any ideas?

If I can find a 3rd Party app that opens that menu without using the button.. perhaps that'd be more useful.

Thanks
[Vibrant General] orells:
I can't believe I'm posting this on XDA, but we really need a fight thread so these young whipersnappers can come in and rant about things that amount to lack of research. In a week we've almost lost two devs, and our curse count is the highest in XDA.

(my2cents)

I know most of the trolling is from first time Android owners who have been "lurking" for years. Only to sign up when they get a bad flash, wipe the sd, or some other common bug. They log on and cry, and moan in the development... DEVELOPMENT, section.

So Im going to post what to expect when trying new roms, modems, kernals, etc.

1) bootlooping

2)full wipe, everything is subject to erase

3)laggy programs

4)whack ass battery life

5)wake problems

6)banding on cam

7)computer with exclaimation point

9)"logcat or it didnt happen"

10)"read, read, read"

So if you are going to grow a pair and try to blame a dev for your flashing woesm save it. The vets here really dont give a damn cause the true vets know adb, odin, and terminal. Vet doesnt mean the amount of posts it meas we were smart enough to read the stickies. (they do say "read first" you know.

No one here is going to hold your hand and say "this is how you flash" for every fukken rom, modem, sys app, and kernal. We arent going to answer the same question a hundred times, hence the search button.

Bottom line, we may all major in engineering, but you have to know your classification. As a freshman its up to you to research and get the remedial answers. sophmores help out the freshmen without hendering your learning. Juniors and seniors answer questions but remember you dont know it all. 5th years, aka devs, make the effort without being an ass. Set the expectation and stick with it.

Make sense? Good. Know your roll and shut your mouths gibronis! Lol.

Edit: please allow 1-2 full days of testing before crying about the OP needs updating. If you have the kinda time to stare at a thread and update an OP instantly, then you already knew there was a problem. If you dont have that time, what makes you think a dev does? (poor saps)
[Vibrant General] ndwgs:
Kudos!!

Nice write up. Sadly, its all true...

Sent from my SGH-T959
[Vibrant General] iheartdroid:
+1

Unfortunately the only people that will see this is the ones that do any kind of research.

Personally Ive bricked a hardware locked phone, that I had to make a jig for after trying everything else under the sun.I read all the disclaimers and knew if anything happened it was my resposibility. The community took pity and took several man hours worth of effort trying to help and i've never been anything but grateful.

So instead of ranting about those that ruin it for us all (though I agree), I'd rather take the time to thank the rest of the community that shows patience and helps, and especially thank the devs that allow us to break our phones in new and exciting ways.

Keep up the good work, and thanks again.
[Vibrant General] orells:
Awesome post, thats what I miss from the G1 forums
[Vibrant General] Joshochoa187:
Which devs were lost?
[Vibrant General] oka1:
Both the OP and your post have it both right +1........... There are a number of us who will help people just to help them understand, and what I find appalling is when you do, some are just so selfish they complain...... essentially, that you weren't willing to get on a plane/train or auto and drive over to their house and to a "home call" repair for them..... It's really comical to me that people get a real work of art (the custom ROM) and all they do is ***** that it didn't come with a a beer and fries..............go figure:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Also, I see more hostility here than some of the other phone forums, must just be the popularity of this phone.

Both of you great posts.
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
Pretty much every dev here has left in frustration at some point, fed up with the abuse and bad treatment. This recent episode of someone actually flat out insulting Eugene in his own thread is a new low though.
[Vibrant General] Joshochoa187:
Wtf are serious? What did he say to eugene and why? He just came back.
[Vibrant General] Joshochoa187:
You know what I find hilarious? 90% of the ppl here who talk s**t to others on xda wouldn't have the balls to say it to that persons face
[Vibrant General] ndwgs:
^ Ha! Ain't that the truth.
[Vibrant General] shovelhead83:
#1 rule about the fight thread, never talk about the fight thread!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DisturbedAle:
So first off, I'm new to Android, the MT4G is the first I will Android phone I will have have ever owned. I have been on Unlocked/Jailbroken iPhones for 2 years and I did the unlocks/jailbreaks myself. Now I'm sick of slow incompatible bands, anyways, I just got my MT4G, I have lots of questions.

Lots of questions, some easy, some... not so easy?

1. What's the main difference between perm root vs visionary? It seems like perm root is relatively difficult still and I don't want to risk bricking my phone...

2. What rom/kernel/firmware should I use? I've never dealt with so many variables when I was on the iPhone.

3. So I got "panel = 1", looks like I will try to get it replaced... Can I still play with my phone for the next few days, then get it backed up and when the "good" phone comes in, I can restore that backup? Therefore allowing me to keep all the stuff I did in the downtime of the new phone coming in.

Thank you in advanced!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmwils3:
Any other questions, feel free to pm me or hit me up on Google talk (same username). And don't for get to hit thanks if this helped :)
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DisturbedAle:
Thanks! Going back to rom/kernel/firmware, is there a master list that allows me to compare them all?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmwils3:
Yeah, the resource Bible posted by tiger013 under the development section :) it should be up to date on all the latest roms , kernels and themes. It also contains the rooting guide I told you about, along with several others.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marine6680:
Just do a little research and learn what things are. (IE: What a kernel is vs a ROM)

Then it gets a little easier when you learn the android terminology. Learn the basics, and you should be fine as well. Like getting ADB to recognize your phone.
[EVO Shift 4G General] alher591:
Is it just me or the shift getting extremly hot after permroot. I would be playing angry birds on it while charging and it warms up till the point it stops charging and it starts blinking red and green. Is anyone else experiencing this?
[EVO Shift 4G General] jesusice:
I haven't. You may need to return yours.

^ Shift Faced
[EVO Shift 4G General] alher591:
Can anyone else confirms this??? I need to know before my thirty days are up so I don't have to go through insurance... its always a pain.
[EVO Shift 4G General] oboroninja:
Its probably just you...sounds like a defect. Id go exchange it asap.

powered by the tears of a million orphaned alpacas...
[EVO Shift 4G General] buddwm:
I tested mine out and can confirm that I don't have this issue after playing the game for 1 hour.
[EVO Shift 4G General] foxsdaddy67:
U might try re-setting the battery data in recovery?
[EVO Shift 4G General] d1msum4lyfe:
why not go back to stock ruu and test it out quickly?

i think it's just a defective phone and not the root
[EVO Shift 4G General] akmzero:
Did you overclock it?
[EVO Shift 4G General] alher591:
I think that might of done it. I'm charging while using the fm radio while browsing and no extreme heats so far. There always times I wish the xda app let me thank the members.

BTW I'm not overclocked or using a custom Rom. All stock besides permanent root and recovery
[EVO Shift 4G General] foxsdaddy67:
glad it seemed to help :D
[EVO Shift 4G General] gbL420:
Maybe if ur using it while charging. I think the battery life is better now and overall its runs faster

sent frm perma rooted evo shi(f)t via XDA app
[EVO Shift 4G General] depsidynamic:
what the max temp you should let your phone get to. Safe and extreme?
[EVO Shift 4G General] alher591:
I haven't actually recorded my temps. But I'm going for an exchange for another htc evo shift4G
[EVO Shift 4G General] pdmxda:
I think my phone is heating up after root, I tried the data stats wipe out: nothing changed.

I wonder if I'll be able to exchange it after rooting.
[EVO Shift 4G General] alher591:
I just got mine exchanged. As long if its under the 30 days. You should be good because it just came out and hasn't been 30 days since release yet
[EVO Shift 4G General] pdmxda:
did you have to go to a service center and have it documented, or did you pay a restocking fee
[EVO Shift 4G General] alher591:
I purchased my phone through radioshack sooo no service center. I didn't have too pay anything either. Why are you having problems exchanging your EVO shift???
[EVO Shift 4G General] pdmxda:
Sprint are being dildos of the highest caliber. I told them it overheats, and they changed the battery with a "new one". I opened the Shift to see it and guess what --it is and old scratched beat up battery. I showed it to the manager and his response was "We don't have any new batteries in stock, so we replace them with used ones". Can you believe it. I filed two complaints with fcc and bbb :mad:

If I don't hear anything from them I'll probably end up paying their restocking fee ($35) just before the 30 days, which is like pissing money away :rolleyes:. I should have bought it from Best Buy. They throw in a free handset on top.
[EVO Shift 4G General] ElBorba:
We appreciate your dedication. :p
[EVO Shift 4G General] EricSS619:
Pretty sure my shift is getting hotter after root too. 111 degrees F when playing angry birds
[EVO Shift 4G General] alher591:
I was getting those temperatures too. Once I received my new shift the first thing I did was root. No extreme temperatures so far. I'm about to play some angry birds.
[EVO Shift 4G General] alher591:
I never go through Sprint for a new phone, stuff like that could happen. Also did you root and flash recovery?
[EVO Shift 4G General] pdmxda:
Before the permroot I used to have temp with z4. After flashing the 'hboot_eng.nb0' I used Visionary to perm root. Flashed recovery a few days later.

A few things I'm not sure about are:

1) "make sure you have adb properly setup" - adb is just a binary, what is there to setup?

2) "if you do not already have fastboot setup get it" - this is where I got mine: android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Fastboot (DarkriftX's precompiled)
[EVO Shift 4G General] gbL420:
Try this threadhttp://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=932749 its lik a prereq

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[EVO Shift 4G General] alher591:
I am as new as you probably are to android, I come from Windows mobile (htc mogul and touch pro 2). I'm guessing its talking about the sdk. I'm pretty sure and someone correct me if I'm wrong. Fastboot is so your able to command prompt within the bootloader.

Sent From My HTC EVO Shift 4G
[EVO Shift 4G General] pdmxda:
Oh thanks... I should probably post my setup in that thread.. doing it now.
[EVO Shift 4G General] gbL420:
The OP describes how to use adb and adb shell into ur device then follow bnice's perm root guide

sent frm perm-rooted evo shi(f)t via XDA app
[EVO Shift 4G General] pdmxda:
Yes I am fairly new to Android, but I'm a Unix user so some of the Windows stuff is not applicable to me. I'll post about this in the thread above, so that this doesn't get off topic any more.
[EVO Shift 4G General] alher591:
BrandoKc's thread is very helpful and make sure you thank him. Also he pm instructions to flash recovery if you need help with that pm me.

Sent From My HTC EVO Shift 4G
[EVO Shift 4G General] pdmxda:
Thanks alher591, I understand the instructions fairly good, what I'm uncertain of is if in fact there is anything to setup in 'adb' once the sdk is on my disk, and if I have the right 'fastboot' binary (since it doesn't come with the sdk).
[EVO Shift 4G General] gbL420:
Back on topic...I did notice the batt feels extra warm after I play hold em/angry birds for 1-2 hours

perm#rooted shi(f)t via XDA app...gbL
[EVO Shift 4G General] foxsdaddy67:
Think the fast boot is in a different folder in the sdk. Just copy and paste into the right folder

sent from my evo shift
[EVO Shift 4G General] alher591:
you can get your fast-boot binaries from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=928370 go to the bottom of the first post and click on the yellow download sign. extract the files to your desktop and then move your fast boot file to your sdk/tool folder. Go to the cmd prompt and get back to work!

cd C:\AndroidSDK\platform-tools

C:\AndroidSDK\platform-tools>adb devices

You should now received feedback telling you your device name

C:\AndroidSDK\platform-tools>fastboot

Now you should get a list of the fastboot commands.

You're ready to follow BCNice's recovery install instructions from the second post

these commands will only work if you went buy BrandoKc's setup adb and sdk
[EVO Shift 4G General] alher591:
yes... im wondering if flashing back to og ruu will help?
[EVO Shift 4G General] Revverok:
I did notice similar issues once I rooted my phone. Before rooting I was able to have my phone last for almost 2 days of very light usage. Once I rooted my phone the battery will get very hot and barely lasts for 12 hours. I did not overclock, I am using the default rom that came with it, I have not increased my usage. I can send 20 texts, feel the phone getting really hot and watch the battery nose dive.
[EVO Shift 4G General] k2buckley:
Have you tried using Spare Parts or OS Monitor, or even Watchdog, to see if something is throttling your CPU? You should be able to track it down with those apps, and see what it is that is causing your CPU to spike out (which is most likely what's happening) and drain your battery. I don't have a Shift, but an Evo, and I'm sure there must be some similarities, but I find that different kernels can cause my phone to overheat while charging and using the phone moderately/heavily while charging. Other kernels, and my phone runs cool during any kind of use. There always seems to be a sweet spot, finding the right kernel/ROM combo. If the Shift is anything at all like the Evo, then you'll find that everyone's phone is different and will run differently. You could take two Evo's, put the same ROM, Kernel, radio, and PRI on them both, and find that one of them runs awesome and gets over 24 hours of battery life, while the other one lags, gets force closes, has random reboots, and the battery is smoked after 5 hours. It seems the best way is to try some different setups, and see what the reactions are. As long as you always have a good nandroid backup, and the RUU on your computer, you got nothing to lose :) And surely there will soon be a lot of ROM and Kernel options over here. I've been into the Shift a bit since my roomate got his. And FWIW, his doesn't overheat at all, not yet anyways, I just rooted it yesterday.
[EVO Shift 4G General] the5ifty:
Any solves for this issue? After heavy browsing (in spotty 3g) for 45 minutes the set cpu temp will say 116+ I am probably going to start fresh (wipe and not titanium anything back) and see if that hslps...and if that doesn't work I will RUU. Did anyone find the cause and/or will a replacement be any different, my wifes seems to do the same stock rooted...
[EVO Shift 4G General] adamr240:
I'm curious about this also. I rooted, uninstalled visionary and I haven't noticed any difference at all.

Anybody get it figured out?
[EVO Shift 4G General] the5ifty:
Stock rom didn't help, I'm ruu-ing later. The weird part it that it seems to heat up faster while browsing internet heavily than when I play nfs shift for 30 min...
[EVO Shift 4G General] adamr240:
You did a data reset?
[EVO Shift 4G General] the5ifty:
Just did an RUU and still the same result
[EVO Shift 4G General] icemochalatte:
I noticed the same thing on my phone just after completing the root. I run a CPU info widget and noticed it was running at 99-100% after the initial rooted boot. I spent some time in a task manager and could not identify any processes consuming the CPU time.

I reset the phone and it came up again using 100% CPU time. The phone came up normal after a second reset.
[EVO Shift 4G General] warstoke:
once you uninstall visionary or z4root it seems to solve it mine was doing that at first till i removed those apps dont know why but that was it
[EVO Shift 4G General] linuxman84:
I had the same issues, after removing visionary Things got better. I also change over to an OC Kernel, to my suprise the phone seems to run cooler after the switch over - I have it running a 1 ghz and my phone stays around 72.5 F.
[EVO Shift 4G General] linuxman84:
its gets as high as 88, when playing angry birds for 30 mins or so
[EVO Shift 4G General] wireless.praying.mantis:
I'd suggest have a S&R technician do a diagnostic on their Cadex to see if you have a defective battery. Don't forget the only time you have to go through Asurion is if your HTC EVO Shift 4G is ever lost, stolen or physically damaged.
[EVO Shift 4G General] srsbsns:
I also noticed my shift getting very hot after root and at first I thought it was just my mind until I came upon this thread. I restored to stock and now its running much cooler.
[EVO Shift 4G General] noskoviak:
Don't use your phone while its charging for so long.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Enraged21:
.................
[EVO Shift 4G General] Caromsoft:
I had a heat issue on my girlfriends non rooted Shift a couple of days ago. It was extremely hot and the battery was draining like it had sprung a leak. I also noticed that her 3G indicator was on continually. I tracked it down to K9 mail. I had to uninstall then reinstall the app and no issues since. K9 did not cause the same issue on my Shift. Perhaps some of you have an app that has gone bad.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donny101:
I tried to push the miui mms.apk on to z's beta4 and i got it on/in system/apps and change the permissions to rw-r-r- but the app itself FC's.

I was wondering if what i am trying to do is even possible, and if it is, can someone help me through it?! I love the miui messaging app and it would be amazing on z's beta4 :D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Buddha:
You can always try install it, or maybe try asking the devs.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donny101:
i have it installed (via root explorer) it just force closes when i try to open it.

and i put it in the Q&A to ask :P

i don't think its important enough to ask the devs directly though
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Buddha:
So that means is not compatible with beta 4.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donny101:
yea i was wondering if where was a way to mod it or something but i guess that's a no :/