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[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
I'm really wondering whether you're misconstruing my arguments as a debate tactic or if english just isn't your first language. At no point did I say all android phones do not work with yahoo email. I said it is still an issue with a number of devices not recognizing yahoo mail accounts that are not in premium status. Is it all of them? No. Is it anywhere near all of them? No. But the issue is there.

There was a point at which I didn't think android lagged, hell even my first taste of WP7 I was thoroughly let down because I didn't see that much of a change. However after using WP7 for some time even on one of the terrible HTC WP7 devices when I tried going back to android on a Dell Streak running 2.2 or a vibrant with lag fix and all or even the MT4G they were all slow and choppy by comparison. It's not something you'd notice until you've given something better built a chance. I thought my Celica was fast til I drove a lotus.

The remainder of your argument is just a well worded petty insult and not worth replying to.
[General Questions and Answers] Mrdaviso:
Opps delete please
[General Questions and Answers] Mrdaviso:
Your the one thats debated everything posted, most of us are seeing what is said not replying to every positve response about Android. I figured I would venture over to the wp7 forums and first thread that pops up is this. Maybe everyone doesnt share your OPINION of wp7..... IDK But I think the rest of us see these statements as just that, OPINIONS. Maybe you should go protect the WP7 forums, with your butterfly cape.

It is titled why WP7 is failing......LoL
[General Questions and Answers] TheAndroider:
Yes. Yes it is. Switched over from iPhone 3GS to Nexus S and its awesome.
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
Yes there are some people who expect WP7 to just be a dolled up android. I for one prefer that my phone remain functional. I'm in the WP7 forums just as much but the fact that general discussion has pretty much strictly become android is annoying so I will continue to educate on the positives of another OS that most android users shoot down without trying.
[General Questions and Answers] Mrdaviso:
Ever think about starting the appropriate thread for said topic?

What is interesting about what you said is that "it annoys" you. So am I correct to assume that's the reason for the flaming/trolling? Seems like your trying to annoy people, because your butt hurt? :p
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
Just hate to see a site I'm a part of degrade so far. Any WP7 thread brought about in the WP7 forum is trolled by android users let alone one brought about here. I simply answered the question at hand. Does Android fulfill my needs? No it doesnt, I like quality and a good multimedia phone.
[General Questions and Answers] xaccers:
The ability to stream movie soundtracks over bluetooth.

That is one of the basic multimedia features of WM that I was glad to find works under droid, not that I'd expect a decent phone to be unable to do it.

Being able to turn my car into a mini cinema when I'm out shooting is awesome.
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
Cool, I have netflix if I want that. I can't seem to find that anywhere in the android market... hmm...
[General Questions and Answers] Mrdaviso:
Put on your big girl panties and stop pouting.
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
Oh cool, a petty insult my 6 year old sister might have used. Can't say I wouldn't expect that from an android fan.
[General Questions and Answers] Mrdaviso:
You keep typing but all we see is blah blah blah
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
Wow, your avatar depicts an image of someone who was portrayed as highly intellectual and yet the movie was likely released at least a decade before you were born based upon the level of thought put into your childish insults. Are you old enough to be browsing a forum where bad words occasionally slip?
[General Questions and Answers] Mrdaviso:
Hmmm not from a movie chief, but I can't tell you anything you don't know already. ;)
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
Oh sorry, guess I'm too old for cartoons. However whatever it's from it's clearly a mockery of Hannibal Lecter.
[General Questions and Answers] Mrdaviso:
Your right he was the first man in a straight jacket.......lmfao
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
No, of course the restraint mask was made popular by that movie though. The human muzzle was hardly known of and deemed inhumane. Whoever the initial artist of that was their intentions were clear whether or not you acknowledge it.
[General Questions and Answers] Mrdaviso:
Just like you to interject what someone else was thinking, without knowledge of the matter. Should we keep going? I'm enjoying this : p
[General Questions and Answers] simon.rogers:
Agreed, I love Android........I even want to replace it as the OS on my laptop........goodbye Windows 7!:D
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
Eh just found it. Looks like it was drawn by a Netflix community member as tribute to the very same movie of which I referred. If there's enough to make a reasonable assumption then certainly. I wouldn't make the statement had I not known it was a fact.

Edit: This is all based on the Netflix member's word. It's not necessarily fact but certainly seems solid. I don't know why anyone would stake claim to such a basic piece of art if it wasn't theirs.
[General Questions and Answers] Omnichron:
Yes it is! I've learned so much from this website.
[General Questions and Answers] xaccers:
Netflix allows you to listen to movie soundtracks over bluetooth?

Even in the UK over a 2G connection or no connection?

Wow you really do live in a fantasy land.
[General Questions and Answers] vbetts:
I'm saying this VERY VERY lightly. You probably could use netflix to stream movies on 2g, it would take forever and have to buffer over and over.

But not having Netflix available for Android isn't androids fault. Netflix is the one making the app, not Google.
[General Questions and Answers] xaccers:
Could you listen to it over bluetooth on WP7 though?

Have MS fixed that particular missing feature? :D
[General Questions and Answers] vbetts:
While it is very nice to have, look at it like this.

I used to sell phones at radioshack, and one of the major selling points we were told to express was Androids bluetooth support. Even so, people didn't care for the bluetooth features, except that you can use a headset to talk with. Looking at the majority of the people, is the feature something the majority wants? I can tell you not really. WP7 could be better, and could have better features. But why have a feature that only a few compared to the rest would use? Try not to think of it as missing a feature, but not support a feature the competition has..:D
[General Questions and Answers] xaccers:
Most people expect to be able to listen to movies if they can listen to music, especially within the same app.

I commute into London twice a week and many people use bluetooth headphones as there's no lead to get snagged in the scrum that is the underground (no phone signal so no netflix even if it were available in the UK).
[General Questions and Answers] Mrdaviso:
I love my rokr headset and I refuse to go back ten years and have wires leading to my head. I got a pager for sale and a beta VCR too. LoL
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
Bluetooth was pretty cool... then 2004 came around. Why would I need to stream movie soundtracks though? I mean I can watch the movies which is about 1000 times better for making my phone a "portable cinema." I guess a city boy like myself doesn't know much about the ways of 2g though. I haven't seen that except a few times travelling to Colorado and that was well before WP7 was out.
[General Questions and Answers] GnatGoSplat:
I've never really understood what's so great about Netflix anyway, although I do wish I'd bought some Netflix stock. I download all the TV shows I want to watch as .avi from torrents and using Arc Media Player, they play smoothly and perfectly on my Android phone with no conversion. Super easy to get them on the phone too, just plug in the USB, the phone shows up as a disk, and drop the files on it.

That's something the iPhone can't do (to my knowledge). Getting files into the iPhone without iTunes is always a pain that requires special programs. I don't know about WP7.

The only thing lacking in Android seems to be the games. I'm not a big gamer and I suck at them, but I like trying various games because I like being wowed by the graphics and capabilities of a modern mobile device. I have Infinity Blade and Dead Space on my iPhone 3GS and the gameplay, smoothness, and graphics are amazing despite a technically much crappier screen and 400MHz deficit. Neither game is available on Android. Modern Combat 2 on Android is pretty good, but it seems right now iOS is the leader when it comes to games with wow factor.
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
Well for one Netflix isn't illegal... My mom received notifications from her ISP that if she did it again she'd be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law...

Second, Netflix movies dont waste space on your phone... They stream directly to you.

Iphone dominates for now. All WP7 really needs is a flagship game. With games like Ilomilo, the harvest, and hydro thunder I have no doubt that they're not far off...
[General Questions and Answers] mohamobo:
android = my 2nd wife
[General Questions and Answers] Mrdaviso:
Lmao this could be a good or a bad thing.... :D
[General Questions and Answers] Jameswgm:
Android is so open when compared to iOS, rooting is free and there are so many ROMS in development it would be very difficult to get bored of Android!
[General Questions and Answers] xaccers:
Why would I want to listen to the audio of a film over bluetooth? So I can watch the movie and listen to it through better speakers than in ear buds, or watch the movie and listen to it on wireless headphones which don't get snagged and yanked by others on the tube (incidently, netflix doesn't work on the tube).

If I want to stream a movie I can do it from my own server or my friends' servers, likewise with music, for free, but I understand that in order to do so I'd need a good enough network connection.

Either way, when watching a movie streamed or stored locally, I'm not restricted to the 3.5mm jack or phone speaker.

As I said before, if you can listen to music on your bluetooth headphones from an app, then I'd find it extremely annoying that even though it's the same app, I'd to have to swap over to wired headphones to watch a movie without broadcasting the sound to everyone around me.

That's the point I was making.
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
Ah, okay. I guess I've never run into the issue with headphones and should I then I'd buy wireless headphones. I don't see the point in spending 100 bucks on a good set of BT headphones when the ones in box are great. I just dont see the point. I guess I'm not much of a hunter though.
[General Questions and Answers] xaccers:
I've seen people have their phones pulled from their hands when the headphone lead has been caught as someone's got off the train, not a pretty sight, although worse is seeing earbuds ripped from someone's lugholes *ouch*

With WP7, unless the recent brick-risking update fixed it, or the issue was specific to certain handsets from various manufacturers, if you're watching a movie you can't listen to it via bluetooth.

Android thankfully, like WM, doesn't have this issue, which is another step towards it fulfilling my needs. It's not there yet for fulfilling all of them, and there's nothing to say a future release won't move further away, but I would suspect that by the time HD2s are no longer available the android replacement will be pretty much on a par.
[General Questions and Answers] Mrdaviso:
I sit in bed watch movies and bluetooth the audio so I don't wake my lady friend. ;) My kids also use it so I don't have to hear the kids songs and the same lines from movies over and over. Not to mention, you ever seen a 5 year old try to wear wired head phones, can we say birds nest and maybe even a tied up child. The earbuds don't fit them either, and ebay is cheap. I think I gave $10 for my moto s9-hd, shipped.
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
Eh, I still don't think android will ever reach WM but that's just me. Winmo didn't feel as hastily built and tossed together. Sadly the issues that ended winmo are starting to plague android. I want android there for when I want to tinker but for my day to day phone I'm all WP7. The update that was bricking devices did not do much of anything. The general consensus is that it was a decoy for the update blocking carriers because they're only allowed to skip one update and that was skipped so the next will go off without a hitch (at least for most of us.) The update wasn't at fault really though, the drivers samsung built were. Samsung not setting things to be updated, as a former android user I'm in no way shocked. Bluetooth isn't likely a priority because that would require a file manager to actually be legitimately installed on the device and that's unlikely because that knocks out the whole amazing and easy to use interface. I really don't think bluetooth has been a big deal for anyone in quite some time though.
[General Questions and Answers] xaccers:
You're missing the point, with WP7 you can listen to MP3's over bluetooth, but you can't listen to a movie over bluetooth despite it being played in the same app.

Both functions simply involve diverting audio to bluetooth, same as diverting system sounds to bluetooth is no different, but for some reason with WP7 when you're playing a movie it disables bluetooth output, even cutscenes in games have been reported to have the same issue.

So you could be on a train, playing a game with bluetooth headphones on, and suddenly when you finish the level the sound drops for you but everyone around you gets to hear the cut scene.

Android, like WM, does not suffer this failing, ie on both Android and WM you can output the audio of a movie to bluetooth, which is another reason why Android is heading towards fulfilling my needs.

To be honest, all that Android is lacking for me is TomTom and the ability to disable activating hyperlinks while zoomed out in the browser.

When MS5 is released it should become a dream to use, although HTC have done a much better job with Sense than they did with the HD2.

As a business user I'm finding I'm spending more time running Android than WM, I never thought that would happen (although that was using bog standard android without sense).

Its some of the basic features of WM/Android that I find myself using every day that are just lacking in WP7, and I can use the phone how I want to, not how MS or Apple dictate.

I don't get what failings WM had, the HD2 with MS3.5 showed how smooth and finger/user friendly it could be. It had great games such as xtract, experiment 13, huff n puff (which I think is better than angrybirds), excellent apps, the train timetable app on WM is miles better than any I've seen on Android/WP7/IOS for instance.

Perhaps if WP7 sales continue being so low that MS are embarassed to talk about them, they'll re-write WM6.5 into WMC7 or 8 to do the same but more efficiently and taking full advantage of current technology.
[General Questions and Answers] xxxdc5:
Needs sms/mms over wifi. That would be nice
[General Questions and Answers] abu2x:
Agree with this.

Noooooothing will fulfill all what you need.

you will need more and moooore
[General Questions and Answers] stubbed:
Running Android 2.2 on a Desire, it's the first time I've owned a phone where I can legitimately say that nothing annoys me...

*edit* actually I lie, the one, and ONLY one thing that I miss slightly is the "Profiles" feature that Nokia have. I'm on call 24/7, so before I would go to sleep I would have a "Sleeping" profile on my Nokia that would be a normal ring for telephone calls (ie, something urgent), but all other notifications were muted.

I'm sure there is a Profiles app that replicates those features, I just haven't found one yet!
[General Questions and Answers] FLAC Vest:
Well for the SMS all you need is a Google voice number and the application and you can text people for free over wifi (or data) on the phone or computer.
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
At last count Windows Phone was doing much better than android was in the same amount of time after it's release and android only had iphone to compete with. Not to mention a lot of developer support is shifting our way now that there is proof that your typical app dev can make much more money deving for WP7 rather than android (because lets face it, who actually pays for droid apps?) Windows was great if you wanted a pocket PC though even the HD2 wasnt entirely finger friendly, in some of the settings menus it still felt like threading a needle to hit check boxes. It died off because no one wants something that requires customization for it to work. The HD2 really resolved it for the most part but it was too little too late. Android pretty much took the same concept, added a market, and made it finger friendly. Unfortunately it's inux and any way you turn it linux is only good for a select few so the user base is primarily built of two types of people. There's the first group who think they're getting a low end iphone and could not tell you the difference other than theirs was free. Then there's the techies, hell some of them probably use linux on their computer though as an avid gamer I see no point. They are constantly out for the best device and that's why android is constantly moving so much. They appealed to those two focus groups. Android did what they did well but unfortunately the OS still feels very rough. I would love android if they would have a usable phone by defaut. Until it has a good media player, a UI that isnt just horrendous and is GPU accelerated, apps arent so easy to pirate so devs actually continue to want to dev after the initial experience. I paid for one app when I was fairly new to android. That was 10 dollars for Zenonia. After I saw the APK on thepiratebay I knew I wouldnt pay for an app again. Also I don't want to fear that my phone won't ever be updated after its initial release. Yes I can root and flash but should I have to? Android is poorly built and poorly maintained but survives on the idiocy of the sheep and the grand minds behind XDA.
[General Questions and Answers] HipKat:
Has it fulfilled all my needs? No. There are definitely issues. Battery life is horrible. MMS is hit and miss, and on three different devices, I haven't been able to send a pic in over a month.

However, after watching the Google presentation of Honeycomb, it makes me optimistic that there is a really bright future for Android, and that one day, we'll be thinking of what a dinosaur Android 2.x was....
[General Questions and Answers] rogier666:
Android is a promising mobile OS, but it should be considered a public beta test until it matures. Android is still missing things, including some features that work straight out of the box on other phones.

1) Android needs a calendar app that lets you set reminders for a specific time (not a time offset). The stock calendar can't do it, and I haven't found a single calendar app on the market that will simply let you enter "8.00" when you want your calender to remind you at 8 o'clock for your 12.45 appointment. The calendar app in Symbian beats all Android calendars.

2) A way to get rid of annoying beeps that are hardcoded in the firmware. I don't want to hear a beep when I use the volume buttons to reduce the ringer volume.

3) Better control over which apps can go online (and which apps can not), when they can go online, and over which networks. DroidWall is a small step in the right direction, but Android really needs an option to let apps ask for permission before they go online (like in Symbian). This is essential when you're roaming abroad and pay a fortune for international data.

4) Record both sides of the conversation without having to use the speaker. On most Android phones proper call recording is impossible. Apps like Total Recall and Ultimate Voice Recorder work on all other smartphones.

5) Bluetooth file transfer out of the box without having to install third party apps like Bluetooth File Transfer or ES File Explorer.

6) Phone-to-phone file transfer over WiFi without an external router. The Wireless Tether/SDCardWifiAccess combo takes too many clicks and only gets data out of your phone, not the other way 'round.

7) Just like iOS, Android is not optimized for battery-powered devices, probably because they're based on a desktop operating systems. This is where Symbian and Blackberry perform much, much, much better. They were designed with battery consumption in mind from the beginning.

8) Making screenshots without having to root your phone. Really, what was Google thinking when they decided that taking screenshots requires root access?

9) Switching off your phone by long-pressing the power button, without having to tap the screen.

10) Why does it take so many clicks to make your phone discoverable when you switch bluetooth on? And why only for two minutes?
[General Questions and Answers] vividmiui:
i use miui rom, alomsot fulfilling all my needs.:D
[General Questions and Answers] raydar670:
Android has two main problems for me, Stability/speed and Battery life.
[General Questions and Answers] Mrdaviso:
These sound like problems with your phone not Android. What phone?
[General Questions and Answers] bruce guo:
I'm a WM user before, Android is absolutely more strong than WM. The only thing i feel confused is battery performance. Linux is popular and long time developed on mobile devices an consuming electronic products in theory. But i can't see android has any improvement in battery life than WM.
[General Questions and Answers] Mrdaviso:
I agree they all seem to have poor battery life but then again they wanna sell you that ridiculously priced charger for your car at the retail spots. Some problems will never be fixed, as they are caused to make revenue.
[General Questions and Answers] xxxdc5:
Yeah I know but I'm actually only concerned with mms but thanks!
[General Questions and Answers] xaccers:
There you go with your fanboi drivel again, it wouldn't be a problem if you actually stuck with facts.

Let me copy and paste what I wrote before and tweak it a bit. I love that I can do that :D

WM out performed WP7 last quarter. WP7's market share in it's debut quarter was lower than Android's and even WebOS' respective debut quarters.

Worldwide MS' market share dropped from 7.2% on the last quarter of 2009 to just 3.1% last quarter (if you've not worked it out, that's comparing how it did at the end of 2009 with how it did at the end of 2010, which would be not very good).

Microsoft will not publish their sales figures because, as with the Kin and WM when it had bad years, they are too embarrassed.

I've not been able to find any figures which corroberate your assertion that WP7 is having a better debut quarter than Android.

We've gone over your UI bollocks before, Android is smooth as silk, and doesn't need acceleration to do that.
[General Questions and Answers] rogier666:
Unfortunately Google Voice is a regional thing that's only available in one country, unless you resort to geeky workarounds with proxies and fake identities to make Google think you're in the usa.
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
Hm, I'd really think you would've found google by now. 1.5 million by december 22nd certainly isn't bad especially for a brand new OS who was trying to make a name for itself while sales reps were saying "It's windows mobiile dint try it." They had a lot of cleaning up to do trying to save face after windows mobile, it will always leave a bad taste in the mouths of a lot of people XDA members aside. WP7 in 'last quarter' only ha half a quarter plagued with the aforementioned shadow over their head. I wouldn't have expected anything more and was actually shocked at what it got... As for the end, like I said, I wouldnt expect a Winmo/android fanboy to know anything about smoothness of a UI.