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[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
Hahahahaha

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[Epic 4G General] murso74:
with the recent changes to the sprint premier package i deffinitly won't be getting a samsung phone.. i'd hate to be stuck with a phone for 2 years that may not be updated more then once..... that's if i stick with sprint at all at this point
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
I have a felling it'll come out this friday...why do i THINK(just my hunch)?

so it'll be out of the way before thier feb. 7th announcement

roll out from friday till sunday....

friday would make it 2 weeks since they said "ASAP" on twitter

this is just what i feel abd hope 8/

but we all know samsh*t and sprint...
[Epic 4G General] imwillzillla:
Agreed, I'd expect the phone to come out and I clearly expect to steer clear from it. HTC here I come.
[Epic 4G General] difrent7:
Yayy awesome hardware and outdated software.
[Epic 4G General] Darkk69:
Ironic isn't it?
[Epic 4G General] punwik:
this really makes me sick... They are gonna come out with galaxy s2 series now cause the epic and the other galaxys were such a failure. Its like oh sorry bout your sh!tty phone so here just give us some more of your hard earned money and we will give you something that works. What a rip off. I dont care how bad a$$ these new phones will be! i will not get another samsh!t again.

They will prob update the epic to froyo eventually and then that will be it.

Left by the wayside never to be updated again. Im sure that will happen...
[Epic 4G General] Protoroll:
While I do share your anger, the Galaxy S phones were far from a failure. Samsung sold over 10 million Galaxies worldwide. 4 million in the US alone.
[Epic 4G General] iamchocho:
Hahaha that's awesome good work! Plus I think you just made him even more angry which makes me laugh even harder.

I've been lurking here for quite some time, had an epic since launch and I'm not happy with Sammy either for the whole mess, but I don't go *****ing here about it. If your pissed go ***** to Samsung and Sprint about it on facebook, twitter, their 800#, who cares as long as its not to the people in this forum. No one here can do anything about it.
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
The earliest time that I will consider getting a new phone is in Q4 2011. And the only reason I would upgrade - physical keyboard and 4-inch+ screen still being prerequisites - is for a better camera. Current Epic's 5MP camera is not good enough quality.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
I think they're messing up by going to 4.3.....

4" is the perfect screen size :/
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Any reason why they are going bigger?

Maybe they will alternate each year with 4" for Galaxy S3.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
I doubt it...unless they get a lot of complaints like mine lol

Dual core orion, samoled 2 or +, 2mp ffc, 5-8mp back, 4" screen, latest android and I'm sold for gs2. If they give the current version of android with the next version right around the corner, ima pass lol
[Epic 4G General] Neptune5k:
Unless the Galaxy 2 says HTC across the top, count me out...
[Epic 4G General] Milkman00:
I will not purchase another Samsung phone again, unless they can prove they can and will change.
[Epic 4G General] mjben:
The ONLY reason I got the Epic over the HTC was the physical keyboard- I wanted the option. I actually didn't know **** about **** when it came to these phones- just wanted to gather all my communications in one place, make grocery lists, etc.

Now HTC has an EVO Shift....that would have made my decision a lot harder back in November.

I did flash my Epic to a pre-rooted 2.2 with the help of the developers in this forum. So that's not a real hang-up.

I am just peeved at Samsung because...well, they seem to be well represented by the frustrated owners in this thread. Now I just feel betrayed that there will be an Epic2, likley shipping with a stable 2.2 while my phone is forgotten. FORGOTTEN?! I still have to keep this thing for two years!
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
You would have to be a moron to sink more money into Samsung with their Galaxy S2. No thanks Sammy, you have made it very clear what you want to do. Bring out new phones with new O/S and leave the others waiting till you are just about to release the new phone, and then stop all support to that phone and rinse and repeat. You wont see me buying another Samsung phone. LG, Motorola, HTC will always be before Sammy. I own both the Evo and the Epic. Guess which phone I use more now.
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
If LG's phones are anything like their refridgerators, I won't touch them even if they're free. Still ticked about spending a ton of cash on a colossal piece of crap with an ice maker that's on it's third repair in the last year (different problem each time).
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
ummm, the epic, cuz it rocks the socks off of the evo?
[Epic 4G General] socos25:
Have to be honest while I wish Froyo would offically come out, I'm not stressing about it. The Phone works great. It does everything I could ask.

I am not saying I'll run out and buy another Samsung phone, but not saying I won't either. I know I will have the Epic at least for another year or two. I don't know what the newer phones will do this one won't, except if it has dual cores maybe eat batteries faster.
[Epic 4G General] imtjnotu:
Same thing I heard about the epic....back in august
[Epic 4G General] deisel:
Its really ****ty if they release a newer phone and don't update us epics if we buy another Samsung device its our own faults and accept their ****ty buisness practices I'm over Samsung 1 and done
[Epic 4G General] FoxRacR17:
I left HTC to try out Samsung and the Epic and while the hardware is great I just can't stand samsungs lack of support for their phones. So this epic is going to be my first and last samsung phone, and I will for sure steer all my friends away from samsung phones.
[Epic 4G General] Beezer80:
I'm plus one on this. I came from the HTC Touch Pro (went through 4 of them) to a Touch Pro 2. I wasn't impresed with either really. Maybe that was Windows Mobile's fault though. Figured what the hell I'll give Samsung a try.
[Epic 4G General] kbnguy:
you mean the S2 WON'T GET GINGERBREAD just as the Epic don't get froyo. yup, I thought so too... :mad:
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
New Sources Say Samsung Galaxy S2 Will Feature 4.5″ Screen, Reconfirm Orion Processor

http://phandroid.com/2011/02/04/new...feature-4-5-screen-reconfirm-orion-processor/
[Epic 4G General] Scott Summers:
As much as I love the super AMOLED screen, I'm hard pressed to get another Samsung phone.

My wish list for my current EPIC 4G? 4.3" screen (or 4.5" with a thin bazel) minus the keyboard. :-)
[Epic 4G General] RushAOZ:
I hope we get the best version to the s2 again. Even with this whole 2.2 debacle I still Love my epic more than any phone Ive owned or played with. I'm sure most of you would agree even on 2.1 this thing is still a problem. And Im chalked up for the next epic too. I cant wait to see that 1280x720p res at 4.5 inches. As far as i'm concerned anything over this and your stuffing extra pixels in for no reason. I just hope sprint pays for a bit more build quality. Honestly I love the way my epic looks and feels. But subconsciously I would love some metal in there. Maybe then I wont pull my phone out of my pocket like I was standing over a storm drain with my wedding ring.
[Epic 4G General] Kif420:
re

I hope we get the best version to the s2 again. Even with this whole 2.2 debacle I still Love my epic more than any phone Ive owned or played with. I'm sure most of you would agree even on 2.1 this thing is still a problem. And Im chalked up for the next epic too. I cant wait to see that 1280x720p res at 4.5 inches. As far as i'm concerned anything over this and your stuffing extra pixels in for no reason. I just hope sprint pays for a bit more build quality. Honestly I love the way my epic looks and feels. But subconsciously I would love some metal in there. Maybe then I wont pull my phone out of my pocket like I was standing over a storm drain with my wedding ring

+1
[Epic 4G General] tony45x220:
Damn if they bring out a Galaxy S2 without an official Froyo update out for the S lin already out...I might have to go pick me up an HTC EVO Shift 4G real rap.

And I really do hate the fact that all these new phones are phasing out a damn keyboard...maybe I'm just old school but I have a certain level of security with some actual buttons to press when something might go wrong...and frankly typing on a screen isn't as smooth as having a physical keyboard sometimes...especially for long messages and E-mails like the paragraph I'm typing on my Epics keyboard right now.

But them specs are turning me on 4.3-4.5" s-amoled display, 1.2 GHZ dual-core processor, 8MP rear w. 1.3mp front facing, and all the extra RAM and ROM space they included...if it came out without a keyboard I swear id stick right with my Epic...just my 2 cents y'all

sent from my rooted, suited & booted Epic 4G know dat
[Epic 4G General] xjman:
You realize they were some of the best selling android phones? The galaxy s actually put samsung on the map with android, and if I'm not mistaken made them the #1 in terms of android sales.

SOOO failure is not what they were.

Either way, I've been duped by sammy twice. It wont happen again.
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Some new specs leaked/rumored:

http://phandroid.com/2011/02/10/huge-spec-leak-wildfire-2-desire-2-desire-hd2-and-galaxy-s2/
[Epic 4G General] dito33:
Why the internal ram mem is 512 should be by 1gb I would pass on this one.

dito33
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Uh, isn't the adreno 205 worse than what we currently have? The adreno 220 is the new hotness. Also, snapdragon? Why would samsung do that when they are on the verge of starting production on their Orion processors. Article on engadget about that right now.

Overall, those specs are meh at best. Incremental upgrade in the screen. Minor upgrade in the camera. Minor upgrade to the CPU. Minor downgrade to the graphics processor. Wash on everything else. Absolutely no reason to upgrade to this phone if those specs are accurate. A tegra 2 phone is much more appealing.
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
yeah i agree aboujt the specs. the ram should be 1g. i thought they were going to use the orion? i thought i read that somewhere but maybe that was something else.
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
That is what previous rumors said.
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
Oh ok so I did read that somewhere. Thank you for letting me know that.

Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
[Epic 4G General] SINNN:
Wut? Snapdragon gpu? Nasty! I want cortex hummingbird 2. I aint buying.
[Epic 4G General] derrickmd18:
What the hell. Samsung screwed every one with the moment then pretty much ***** slapped every one with the epic and bad gps and no 2.2 and you'll trying to buy the epic 2 now. Nope sorry screw them im getting htc.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Guys there's no reason to complain to samsung....our hardware is AWESOME

we are running a leaked unfinished leak with no source and our phones are running better than Evo's with cm7 just imagine how good they'll be running soon and with all this bad criticsm sprint got for the 2.2 update and the Echo(I think that's what they called it)

im pretty sure they're going to release a sick ass phone soon and are going to be faster with updates.

i hope im right 8(
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
Surprised they are bothering with this. It's seems like only a marginal upgrade. Bigger screen, better camera about the only reason to get one. It's more like a Galaxy S 1.5

I'll wait until my contract is up on my Epic. By then they should have phones with their dual core Exynos processors in it.
[Epic 4G General] dito33:
I don't know which one is write but here says Galaxy S2 has 1GB ram not 512 like on original post

http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-i9100-specs-and-price-listed-uk
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
Did you guys see this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJEHp15Hoo0&feature=channel
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
A few "official" specs released now, which I have updated first post with.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/12/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-and-10-1-inch-galaxy-tab-ii-confirmed-for-mw/
[Epic 4G General] Darkk69:
Ummm, that almost looks like a iPhone?

Nice specs but I'll be keeping my Epic for a long while until they come out with a phyiscal keyboard and if I upgrade the phone before two years then it'll be worth it.

Some say best comes for those who wait....wait...wait.... damn are we there yet?
[Epic 4G General] hazridi:
Don't care about Galaxy S 2, but I'll take the models...
[Epic 4G General] chino0131:
Edited -posted in wrong thread
[Epic 4G General] sauron0101:
There is a reason to complain. They have failed to support their hardware with competent software.

- The GPS has not been fixed and often fails to acquire a lock

- Android 2.2 is unacceptably slow

- The stock ROM plain sucks and significant performance enhancements can be seen with custom ROMs here (they should've stuck to AOSP as closely as possible IMHO)

People thought that Samsung was turning over a new leaf with the Galaxy S. Worldwide, many of the i9000s do have Froyo as do the phones in Canada, but in the US the Epic and the American phones don't. The carriers deserve a lot of the blame, but consider the case of the HTC Evo, which got 2.2 in a month (although the "real 2.2" is the Desire HD/Z phones). This suggests that Samsung is the delaying factor here.
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
-I've never had a problem with my gps thats why i said that

-the dk28 of course it laggy/filled with glitches,its a leak what do you expect?

-the Evo did get 2.2 in a month but they got screwed with a crappy update

and only time will tell how good our official will be but it should be pretty damn good with all the time they've had to get it working.

Isn't the process Samsung gives update to sprint; sprint sends it back till its good enough to release? so i wouldn't side with either sprint or samsung its both their faults for not delivering us our froyo which they DID promise.
[Epic 4G General] Darkk69:
Samsung / Sprint should have been upfront about the Froyo release several months ago but I would imagine the real blame would fall onto the marketing department for help with the sales of the phone.

Now 6 months or so later still no update and Samsung / Sprint definitely got a black eye with false promises. However, on a technical note Samsung / Sprint never made a public announcement as to when the Froyo would be released other than what the sales folks at Sprint have said based on belief it would be released soon which was supposed to be end of 2010. Didn't really happen other than the leak we got.

I wish Samsung would give us the latest leak so we can test it out and see how good it is and provide them feedback.

Ah well, hopefully it'll be released soon as rumored to be around the 21st of this month.

P.S. Don't quote on this post as it should be in the other 2.2 thread. Just making a point. Thx.

Darkk
[Epic 4G General] sauron0101:
By Android 2.2 is slow, I meant the time it is taking to deliver the update.

If you've never had any problems with your GPS, you're the lucky exception. Mine often won't lock and is unreliable. I have tried calibrating it, which often helps, but still ... Samsung has not released any 2.1 fixes for this and I am not sure even acknowledges that this is a problem.
[Epic 4G General] asj2583:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaHSIpYNnlQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Epic 4G General] Darkk69:
Thanks for the heads up.

Darkk
[Epic 4G General] p-niiice:
I'm sold on S2. Samsung does and will continue to suck on updates. I'm buying because of the hardware and the specs as presented.
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Updated the first post with new information. Also:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2380223,00.asp
[Epic 4G General] Probaholic1:
As much as I like my Epic, you have to understand that in a business mindset it's not too all beneficial at all for the company to update there phones. But more profitable to introduce new hardware.

If you guys think about it, specially in the mobile world it does not make much sense. People will update there phone on an annual pace of which that's when company will try to cater new purchases. Hence the generating revenue from new hardware, particularly because it's Technology and we know how much that changes every few months.

So I say not to rely to much on Sammy, but to be grateful we have a wondering dev and homebrew community, because in all honestly that's where it's going to come down too.
[Epic 4G General] tt c6:
No Offense, but that's bull$hit.

They need to upgrade the HARDWARE it they want our money.

If they want to stay in business.

they need to update their customers' software.

If Samsung doesn't release a Galaxy II with a QWERTY keyboard, I will buy elsewhere.

If Samsung doesn't respect their exisiting customers with timely software updates, I hope they are completely destroyed by competition that does.

No more bull$hit Samsung, step up or fail.
[Epic 4G General] Xerloq:
I might consider a GS3 depending on how they do with this new GS2. Based on my experience with the Moment and Epic not getting updates ill skip the GS2 and wait. Not like I have a choice, as sprint gutted the upgrade program.

When a phone costs $500, both the manufacturer and carrier have an interest in updating it. Can you imagine buying a laptop and not getting service packs? Worse still that both Sprint and Samsung have been saying they would update, yet they haven't and won't clearly say why.
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
If it comes out in the U.S. it wont look like what you see now.
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
What will it look like.
[Epic 4G General] awrnsmn:
The specs say it's GSM, that sucks
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
Agree 100% with the above. If Samsung decides to follow a bait and switch business strategy with falsely promising and then denying software updates to the hardware it sold - Sammy will an should suffer the consequences (losing customers to competition).
[Epic 4G General] dito33:
In Europe there is no cdma provider so it has to be gsm phone but who know what's gonna be when comes here.
[Epic 4G General] Unknown Zone:
ATT is going to get the GSII

http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-ii-come-att-canadian-hspa
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
ATT will rape you with data charges.
[Epic 4G General] globalninja:
Take your shirt too
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
I would also hold off until Sprint decides in the next 4 to 6 months whether it will still support Wimax or make the switch to LTE.

http://gigaom.com/broadband/if-sprint-bails-on-wimax-what-happens-to-clearwire/
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Anyone who buys a Samsung phone at this point is an idiot frankly. They make amazing hardware, but until they prove themselves thoroughly that they can provide support for said hardware, what use is buying a device from them. It has been seven and a half months since Froyo was official OTA for the Nexus One. It has been six months since the Epic launched.

At this point, we have had ZERO updates from Sprint as to when froyo can be expected.

At this point, we have had ZERO updates from Samsung on their progress.

We don't have a target date. We have rumors that we have had to make up by trolling through sites to look for clues. We don't have a fix for any of the problems we have been having since day one: GPS, keyboard skipping keys, etc.

Why would anyone who has gone through this consider a new Samsung phone?
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Look "Shiny"!! buy it!!! "Shiny"!! I mean its "shiny" , you can't resist "shiny"....

But I guess thats what SamsungJohn is for..SGS 2 will prob be out in may/june for the international people at the very least...

he has until then probably to make sure people have Gingerbread on their phones and work on making source code/betas more accessible if they want to convince us into buying it/recommending it..and commign soon wont cut it..we actually have to have it in place by then!
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
So far, SamsungJohn has pissed me off more at Samsung than not having Froyo has. He comes here and promises a thread with all of the details Monday. Monday comes, he promises a thread with a HUGE announcement. New thread started late monday, saying he didn't forget about us. Tuesday comes, he starts a thread that says "I want to hear your issues so I can take a super duper poll about said issues".

WTF. I can not comprehend why he is playing these games. Say what you need to say and be done with it. I feel like a used car salesman is trying to assure me that he is "on my side". Unless he is here so that Samsung can get some news stories about "reaching out to the dev community" as a temporary PR move or something . . .
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Its more of stress building up from all the stuff and someone appearing that you can take out stress on..but I think we should have some patience...sure its frustrating, but we will have our chance...but we should not let this blind us that we may be able to make use of this ourselves..as he said before, its an experiment..so we gotta prove to samsung that our way is better for all of us..and he has to prove to us that Samsung is still worth buying...

We have until the SGS 2 mostly..which is 4-5 month..so as I said by then he has to get us Gingerbread AND contribute to our development in some form..hopefully beta leaks/source access..and IOU won't cut it anymore...

As for the result for not complying, well they will see with their sales figures for their SGS 2...

So give them a chance to prove themselves..we aren't in a hurry yet....
[Epic 4G General] dwallersv:
A story repeated again and again for phone after phone.

Which just leaves the mystery intact: Why aren't these products introduced in the US first, rather than last or not at all, again and again?

Seems to me that, if you want to sell a lot of your product and make money, you'd at least target your biggest market.
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
More bureaucracy here. Whereas Europe and other locations have state-funded/created/managed/etc. carriers, we have multiple carriers over a vast distance and they all want different things. It's much, much more difficult to do a widespread release of a phone like that. I think that's why Apple was AT&T Only for the longest time. One provider, one hardware vendor, one software vendor....much easier.
[Epic 4G General] Protoroll:
It all about what the carriers want. For example, look at the HTC Mecha on Verizon. Its just their re-skin of the G2 just like the EVO Shift. There are final hardware reviews on it that have been up since last year and It's still not out yet. Believe me if the U.S. carriers want it out first they will get it. Again look at the G2, T-Mobile got like two or three months before it came out in Europe as the Desire Z.
[Epic 4G General] snowmanwithahat:
Well if the s2 looks like the i9000.... What do you think the us ones will look like? Probably a lot like the vibrant....
[Epic 4G General] cohiba_man:
Don't think I could go directly from the EPIC to another Samsung device at this point in time. I absolutely love the EPIC and was one of the few people that posted on forums across the net that we should give Samsung a chance. That things would be different this time due to the global release of the Galaxy S line. Boy was I wrong. Getting timely updates has been as bad, if not worse than ever.

I love Samsung as a manufacturer of quality devices. I have owned several of their televisions, phones, and other devices and never had any technical problems with any of them. The problem has always been lack of support once said device has been purchased. Unfortunately, I have no reason to believe they will ever change.
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
I will not buy another samsung advice until I see people in these forums telling us the company is awesome!
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
The company is awesome.