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[EVO 4G General] JasonK75:
I have had higher increases in speed myself by switching to MIUI and even better speed when changing the kernel to BCBlend (the one in my sig). Maybe it is something with ASOP ROMs? Either way, I thought I'd pass that along to see if anyone else see speed increases. A few others tried that kernel after I told them about it and they reported higher speeds too.

Swyped from my EVO (MIUI) using XDA App
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Guys, it's not the friggin ROMs. Half the time the towers I connect to will output 1+ Mbps, then go and output 300 kbps. Biggest culprit is the one by my house. You're generating a placebo effect for yourselves.
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
Repeated again, for those who still believe a rom has anything to do with data speeds.
[EVO 4G General] :
I thought the same thing, and im still skeptical too... but I really think an aosp rom might be helping. I'm not saying the network is good or magically fixed, but I seriously would never get anything near 1000kbps unless it was the middle of the night. Evening times like now were the worst. Sense is so ridiculously bloated with all sorts of random processes running at all times. I'll continue to monitor this cm rom throughout the evening and tomorrow after work will go back and forth a few times between nandroid backups of sense and cm and see how consistent or inconsisten the speeds are.
[EVO 4G General] :
there are *huge* differences in the code between sense roms and cm or miui which are aosp. completely different and coded from the ground up without any of the sense bloat.
[EVO 4G General] knightwolf123:
i get better seped in a small town than a big town right now( san antonio). i think its usuall;y location, timing, and chance on speeds sometimes. of coarse, being closer to a tower helps too im sure
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I'm willing to bet the data interfaces are the same. You forget that Sense is not a separate operating system. It's AOSP with a custom launcher, some app replacements, and a few system tweaks. But other than that, it's still Android.
[EVO 4G General] :
lol. come on man, ive been one of the most vocal contributors to this thread and im waiting for my callback from sprint too, but don't be like that. obviously its the same os, and the radio is the same, but the kernel is different which is a big deal, there aren't anywhere near as many random processes running in aosp, and its so much cleaner. what im doing is reporting honestly real results, including speeds ive never seen before. i got my evo on launch day and have been flashing roms ever since. i know the difference between a placebo and real results, and ill do more testing tomorrow to confirm or debunk my results.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
SpeedTest measures how long it takes the tower to transmit data to your phone and how long it takes to transmit data to the tower (in terms of data speed). There really isn't much you can do to slow down the download speed from your phone other than maybe running something that constantly interrupts your connection (like a service) or by running bandwidth-heavy apps while you run the test (ie Pandora) or messing with certain data settings.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
I'd say forget these speed test sites.

Download a large file, such as the one in the link below. This will give you more practical speed info than a short burst speed test.

http://ardownload.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/win/9.x/9.0/enu/AdbeRdr90_en_US.exe

On 3g, I get ~40-50KB/s, on 4g, i get 400-550 KB/s.

If adobe is not your thing, grab win7 sp1

http://download.microsoft.com/downl...AB78-7FB0D4461357/windows6.1-KB976932-X86.exe
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
san antonio has been crap for a while now, anywhere i am in the city it just sucks. especially out in the la cantera area, helotes, and stone oak.
[EVO 4G General] mic.mayorga:
:( no go for me
[EVO 4G General] mic.mayorga:
will try this. not likely to work. ive tried all.

ya.... NOPE. fml 83 kbps over here. whaddup
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
I know this 1x bull**** is starting to piss me off...

Duh.. from the best phone out........ EVO
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
Thought I'd update the speeds are getting great results last night.

Looks like the 3G speed is back to 1x as I'm constantly getting less than 200 kbps again. So, last night was an anomaly.
[EVO 4G General] pottyvick:
Even with my stock htc rom i would get below 100kps during the day... Late night or early morning I would get great speeds. Not sure what is up with sprint. I am in Phoenix.
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
i just got a follow up call from Dans office, according to her the national outage ticket was closed on th 8th lol. yet yesterday was 1 of the worse days ive seen, my 3G was basically unuseable. She said shes gonna do some research in my area and give me a call back in an hour or so.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Yeah, I refuse to live with "sometimes it's gonna be good, sometimes it's gonna be bad". I can understand network congestion but I'm not in any place that's overcrowded or anything. Even on my campus, in the cafeteria, I can sometimes get 1-2 Mbps down, but when I walk outside near the parking lot, I get 100 kbps. And I can understand that in some places it's going to be under 1 Mb, but when it's below 600-800 kbps, there's definitely something wrong. These are major cities. You'd think they'd be prepared for this stuff.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
omg my speeds have took a jump in to the ****TER today i can't even load pages ! NOTHING im about to send another email
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
i mean look at how inconsistence the speeds are
[EVO 4G General] :
didn't hear from Sprint regarding my open ticket and decided to email them. got a prompt phone call from the same guy who helped me before, saying they (engineers?) are still investigating (or maybe the ticket is just still open and they're gonna get around to it). he said when they fix the problem or have more info he will get back to me.
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
Yup, I hate the inconsistencies as well. Inside my house, I can't get anything above 150-200 kbps. However, if I go outside and about 100 yards out, I can easily get 500-600 kbps. So this is unacceptable. I am sure Sprint is not going to do anything about it either.

I talked to them on Feb 25th. Said I should have a resolution by Feb 28th. Nothing happened and no one contacted me until I emailed them on Monday. Now, we are back to step 1 pretty much. The guy said the engineers fixed the issue; however, my problems continue. I am really getting tired of having to call/email them to have this fixed. This is completely and utterly unacceptable.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Holy ****. I told the woman to tell the guy to call me back between 2 and 4 pm EST. It's in his voicemail. And yet another day I don't get a call back. He was supposed to 2 days ago. EDIT: Just got a call back...so he could tell me that he still hasn't heard anything and that he will call me on Saturday...THIRD TIME IN A ROW MAN. WTF.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
i think they are getting sick of the constant emails LOL
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Nah, just edited the post. He called me back to tell me he still doesn't know anything about the issue. For the third time in a row, he's going to call me back. FML.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
i just fired off another email myself and included my speeds see what they say
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
2. Months. I'm going crazy with these inconsistent data speeds man. I like Sprint but wtf come on. I want a free upgrade or Premier Gold after this or something.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
yea im going to demand something . these speeds are total ****
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
You can give sprint credit for consistently being inconsistent :)
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
the speeds are just horrid FML

the 26xx test was on 4G lol, and the one after it was when i was on Verizons PRL.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
So I just got off the phone with a sprint "advance" tech .. basicly told me its still on my end and not the network ... he said they would issue me another evo .. no its the phone! ! I sent him speedtest I was basically called a lier and that the screenshot means nothing . Wow what a ****. Can't wait for my call back from dans office this will be fun

Duh.. from the best phone out........ EVO
[EVO 4G General] GatoEnFuego:
Typical run around. The next call will blame a tower outage...or a storm that happened 8 months ago...or a massive solar flare...or a meteor strike...but they will never admit that their network is at capacity in areas. That would be fodder for ETF-free cancellation demands and even worse bad press.

To keep the Sprint employees off my case, I realize that even if they admitted the network issue they are not required to give us ETF-free cancellations however it's much easier to string people along with supposed short-term issues that will be fixed any day. There is no solution to an overrun network other than upgrading major infrastructure and the mass subscriber base would not tolerate than answer. Or maybe they're just throttling us and will "flip the switch" back on one of these days and everyone will be happy again. Who knows. Just know it's lame either way.

Sent from my phone while more than likely taking a dump.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
If they offer me a new Evo, I'm saying no. I don't care that it's brand new or anything. Not spending time backing everything up again and getting it the way I like it. It's not the f**king phone. It's the network. And we will make a scene if we have to. We'll tip Engadget, Gizmodo, Consumerist, GoodAndEvo, ExplainTheFee.com, and other sites as necessary.
[EVO 4G General] pottyvick:
Ok so this is kind of crazy. After I posted my original posts (sounds redundant) I am not getting over 1000kbps down... Never seen those speed during the day. This is in phoenix on 3g.
[EVO 4G General] skillzo1:
I already tipped endgadget...no reply though

Today lol..a joke
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I'm going to send the guy who runs explainthefee.com an email and link him to this thread. He put up a story I emailed him before.
[EVO 4G General] :
to all the doubters who thought it wasn't just a sense/cm rom issue...

you're right :)

i can't explain the better speeds with cm yesterday except it must have just been a fluke. here's what i did to compare:

made a nandroid backup of the latest stock rooted sense and another of cm7 nightly #14.

from 6:17PM to 6:20PM i ran five speed tests using the speedtest.net app and got these averages:

SENSE: 786kbps down, 184kbps up, 201ms latency

from 6:27PM to 6:29PM i ran five speed tests using the speedtest.net app and got these averages:

CM7 #14: 716kbps down, 285kbps up, 161ms latency

from 6:35PM to 6:38PM:

SENSE: 920kbps down, 218kbps up, 157ms latency

from 6:45PM to 6:48PM:

CM: 1006kbps down, 178kbps up, 208ms latency

the overall averages for sense were 853kbps down, 201kbps up, 179ms latency. the overall averages for cm were 861kbps down, 232kbps up, 185ms latency.

that's about as close to a side-by-side test as i can do with one phone. strangely, those are somewhat decent speeds and at least now within the average promised range of 600kbps to 1400kbps down. somehow i hit a peak of 1384kbps down on sense, and 408kbps up on sense. my best latency was on sense at 141ms.

no idea why speeds are suddenly better in my apartment the last day and a half. on another note, speeds at work where they are normally fine are suddenly poor: 200kbps down, 75kbps or so up and always over 200ms latency.

:(
[EVO 4G General] :
aaaaand now back to averaging 200kbps down, 50kbps up, latency 250ms as usual
[EVO 4G General] mic.mayorga:
I've done every potential fix out there. I've even RUUd and formatted my card. I've tried everything. Today I got like 500 kbps for awhile but it went back down. So done with trying until sprint comes out with a for sure fix. I'm running a Verizon prl loud and proud. When I go home for spring break in 2 weeks ill be sure to go to the sprint store just for ****s and giggles.
[EVO 4G General] pottyvick:
Yes, my speeds are back to normal (200k down, 250k up)... Boo on you sprint.
[EVO 4G General] J3ff:
So remind me about this "enhanced wireless experience" I'm paying 10 extra dollars for a month?
[EVO 4G General] giograves:
Placebo effect

- Sent from my HTC eVo with Tapatalk
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
There was never any such thing as "Premium Data". It was a 4G tax because they pay Clearwire about $5 for each of us to access their 4G network. However, Sprint will claim that it's NOT a 4G tax. When you talk to the reps, they say it's because the phones are faster, they will use up more data faster. And although I don't agree with their phrasing or fee, if they're going to raise prices, they shouldn't beat around the bush with misleading names. Here's the original explanation of this "Premium Data" fee:

Here's the newer one:

See how they don't tell the truth? First they say it's for the hardware of the phone. So we are essentially "renting" the phone since we will continue to pay for it until we stop using it. Then they say it's because we use more data. I use less than 1GB per month, so wtf? On top of that, now all smartphones have to use them. So when the 3 other Samsung Intercepts on my account upgrade, our monthly price will go from $180 after taxes to $210 after taxes, with no increase in quality of service whatsoever. And to make things worse, my sister Brittany dropped her phone in the toilet (she's careless, but that's besides the point). So now, even if I choose to get an old Sprint smartphone off a friend, I get slapped with "Premium Data" for 3G smartphones.

Their commercials are misleading too. They still advertise $69.99 prices for unlimited text and web, yet there's the $10 Premium Data fee for all smartphones. And they can't even say that most people get dumbphones, because they explain the fee by saying most people are getting smartphones. So WTF Sprint? If there's such a thing as premium data, we sure as hell aren't getting it.
[EVO 4G General] :
yeah the 69.99 price is a joke. i just looked at verizon and they have 39.99 for 450 minutes plus 10.00 for 1000 texts (would be plenty for me) plus $30 for 5GB of data. that's the same 79.99 as sprint (after $10 fee), and they actually have a good network. really tempting to switch, might see about just paying the etf if sprint doesn't resolve this in another couple weeks and selling the evo to pay for it.
[EVO 4G General] Moricon:
Not a fan of Sprint but I would look at the price a little more. There are things in the Sprint plan that you pay extra for on the big V. If you don't need or want. Just don't be surprised.

The one I have seen get people is the fact mobile to mobile min on sprint are free no matter to what carrier. I have had a couple of friends switch and take the low V plan only to end up paying overage fees because of that.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I agree. But their insensivity towards this issue is making people mad. Couldn't they just say "we don't know what's causing the issue, so we're going to make it up to you by __________________ " ? Not "I still haven't heard anything yet, lemme call you back on ________________" five billion times. Not once has anyone offered me anything for my troubles.

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
yup, only thing ive been told is that the national outage is a closed ticket so speeds should be back to normal. Sprint just needs to man up and tell us something other than excuses or dodging the question.
[EVO 4G General] augoza:
I had this problem. My other phone on my account was fast though. So I called sprint last night, they "refreshed my data services". Took only five minutes. Flawlessly worked. Now my status bar displays 3g instead of 1x. Stoked.
[EVO 4G General] :
i wonder if that's the same as going into ##data# and re-provisioning the phone, which i have tried without success?
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
interesting read here

http://arstechnica.com/telecom/news...-lawsuit-clearwire-cant-deliver-the-goods.ars
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I'm emailing ExplainTheFee.com right now + I'm going to take that lengthy post from a page back that I put up about "Premium Data" and send it to Dwane, the dude from D.H.'s office that I've been dealing with. All of this is f*cked up. It's my dad's account, so I don't have the right to terminate it, but I will demand compensation at the very least.

Thanks for that link.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Here's another interesting tidbit I noticed. I've been going ape**** about the Sprint Premier Gold thing because they said I don't qualify even though my monthly bill is $180. So I Google "Sprint Premium Data" and get this site:

http://delivery.sprint.com/m/p/nxt/epc/EPRP2-modal.asp#7

I click "How Frequently Can I Upgrade?". It gives me a link to go here:

https://manage.sprintpcs.com/specialoffers/RebateWelcome.do?id12=MA:LP:20100209:EVP:ALR:upgrade

So I punched in my number and zip code and it tells me I'm eligible for $150 off each year with a 2-Year Agreement or the new customer price (whichever is lower). I've only been with Sprint since this past August. I'm on an Everything Plus Data Family Plan and no one at all has told me this. All I got was "no":

If anyone's contract is gonna end soon and you wanna stick with Sprint, go to http://sprint.com/sero. Use:

russ.s.mcguire@sprint.com

Employee Code: 383

That's what I used and I get lower pricing and apparently this perk.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Sorry to triple post, but I noticed if you go into your account and click "Analyze My Plan", "4G Speeds In Select Cities" is now shown as "Included" instead of part of "Premium Data", which is a $10 charge.
[EVO 4G General] skillzo1:
Just got a call back...said she never recieved my results i sejt them through email...bs or gee maybe it jever got sent cause your network sucks. They she said the ticket was closed out for my area and asked if my issue was resolved...ummm NOOO. She then had me do the ##34... thing and give her information and run a speed test and give her those #s at a whopping 0.66 mbs dl. And 0.44mb ul. She then asked about how many apps i had and said she new from experience that to many can slow its speeds down. I said thats bs data has nothing to do with what apps or how many are on your phone, so that answer is unacceptable...but if you need to know im only at 30% cpu usage. She forwarded it to certain people. She then asked for a specific location it was happening and i said...i told you many times everywhere...where she proceeded to say she needs a particular adress. I told her ok im driving in a van now passing up adress 675 summer ave in newark nj. I asked about being compensated again for poor data service and she said it has to be looked into and i said well im paying $40 a month for premium data that gets me speeds that are worse then dial up.

This is going to go nowhere.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
DUDE OMG. WE SPOKE TO THE SAME CHICK. She gave me the same bull**** about apps. I flatout told her she doesn't know what she was talking about (nicely) and asked to be transferred to someone else. When I called her out on not knowing stuff, she said "OK" and that's it.

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
So I think we can pretty much conclude now that Sprints network is simply over capacity now with the Evos and Epics joining the fray. The timing is just too similar. Such a shame that 3-4 million phones can fold the whole network like that.
[EVO 4G General] skillzo1:
She sounds like mrs doubtfire lol. Anyways it just took me 10 min to dl this page. And the #s i gave her where actually better then the speed test results i had 15 min before we spoke. I had 0.08mbs dl and 0.04 ul before i gave her my numbers.
[EVO 4G General] mic.mayorga:
i think this is absolutely the case. i was up super late last night and i decided to run speed tests with the new prl all night. i was doing it from like 3am to 5am and i was getting around 1000mbps. 4:30pm now and its in the ****ter. a lot more traffic at 4:30 pm than 4:30 am clearly
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
That could be 2 of the women I spoke to. One of them said the apps thing and the other was just clearly Scottish. And isn't it convenient how the SpeedTest is always better while you're talking to them?

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] skillzo1:
Very conveinent but still sucked
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
i got a call back today for my follow up she asked how my phone was doing. ... i told her the phones GREAT .. the data is ****. said its not the phone its the connection she then told me that there was 2 tickets open for data troubles . but they was closed and fixed .... BULL**** . then they asked me about my apps. ... shew the same thing about too many apps and data speed .. higher apps = slower data my ass . so i told them i didnt have time to talk today because i had dinner plans . so ill get another call back tomorrow ..
[EVO 4G General] skillzo1:
I guess they ran out of bs tower excuses...now we have to many apps for premium data.
[EVO 4G General] skillzo1:
Ima tell sprint i installed this app and it reads off the meter when i talk to them....I found this great Android app 'CrapOMeterLite' on AppBrain: http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.socialstranger.crapometerlite
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Here's the email I sent to the dude at D.H.'s office who's "dealing with the situation" :
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
About having too many apps affecting data; Sure, if you have numerous apps OPEN, that would directly affect performance. However, simply having them installed, not running should have absolutely 0 impact on network throughput.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
That's true, but the woman was saying that just having them on the phone takes up storage and that then network data slows down. You decide if that makes any sense or not.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
Well, from a computer perspective, so long as there is enough ram and/or free hd space to accommodate the data sent/received, throughput should remain unaffected.

Now, chances are when you're doing a speed test, something is actually getting downloaded to the phone, still, assuming you have at least 100 MB of free "/data" space, your throughput should not be affected at all.

Either way, this whole theory of too many apps fails to explain why during off peak hours (middle of the night), throughput is where it should be.

Maybe sprint's servers have run out of disk space handling all the connections during the day.

Ultimately, I agree, their reps are spewing a load of bs. Just like the airave tech telling me to remove the battery from my phone and rub it on the airave device in hopes of making the two bond one on another.
[EVO 4G General] :
they're just using scripted responses that the average person wouldn't know is a ridiculous answer. probably at some point over the last couple years someone did have an app consuming bandwidth while they ran a speedtest and now that's written on some laminated sheet next to the phone right after "remove and reinsert your battery" and "make sure they are in a coverage area."
[EVO 4G General] skillzo1:
Good write up fred...wish i could wrote up like that...forward that to other plaves like emdgadget etc.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
[EVO 4G General] mic.mayorga:
are we all F%&KED? i mean verizon prl works but id like to be running my network honestly