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[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
They sent me an Airave that I don't use. Apparently it conflicts with VOIP (I use Vonage). So I use Roam Control to hop on Verizon in my house. It's so weird that Verizon and Sprint are on the same frequencies (900/1800 MHz), but in my house I get no Sprint service and perfect Verizon service. My dad's company phone is a BB Storm 2 and he gets full signal and so do I when I roam. It was the same thing when I was on T-Mobile and AT&T. When I was on AT&T, full service. T-Mobile, nothing in my house. As soon as I step outside or by a window, it's perfect.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
I have the airave set up on it's own dedicated subnet. My lan is 10.x.x.x, while the port the airave is plugged into is configured to be on 192.168.x.x subnet. This keeps the damn thing completely isolated from the rest of the network.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Unfortunately there isn't any Fios on my block yet (though near me it is. DAMN YOU VERIZON!). I even live a few blocks away from a Verizon building. I'm stuck with Verizon DSL. It's 3 Mbps down, 768 kbps up. It's fine for streaming Netflix or Youtube and stuff like that, as long as everyone in the house isn't on a computer at the same time. So even if I do isolate the Airave, it would still steal bandwidth. I don't mind roaming, I just find it highly unusual that one service will enter the house, but the other won't, even with the same frequencies. And it's not even like I'm far from the towers because once I step outside my front door, I get full Sprint signal.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
Might be same base frequency, but different channel, so not REALLY the same frequency.

Think of your wifi, you know it runs at 2.5something Ghz, but there are 11 channels, and if you look up the frequencies, you'll see each channel is at a slightly diff freq.

Might be something in your house interfering with sprint's, but not verizon's signal.
[EVO 4G General] :
Blah. Data on AOSP has been sucking lately. On Warm Z I get a steady 1.5 MB down...on CM7 in the exact same place I'm running .05mb down...although my upload speed is .85mb consistently so I dunno.

Note: Editing the host file did help...I'm now at .1mb...lolol
[EVO 4G General] mic.mayorga:
thats weird. ive switched between sense and aosp multiple times and everytime its usually the same
[EVO 4G General] dynamicpda:
3G Speeds atrocious

I've been noticing lately, like the rest of you, that 3G speeds are atrocious. Even now, in the wee hours of the morning, at home, the 3G speed is ~120 kpbs download and upload. 4G from the same spot fares much better with ~4 mpbs/ 1 mpbs. Unfortunately, 4G is not available in most places I use the phone outside the home. 3G speeds are getting unbearable.

Verizon, whether via PRL or paying subscriber, is looking attractive.

I went to the VZW and tried to price their equivalent of our Everything 450 Plan. Seems to be about the same price $90. Can someone confirm?
[EVO 4G General] SantinoInc:
I wouldn't jump the gun so fast. I'm in NYC and I have numerous co-workers who jumped ship from whatever carrier they were on to Verizon for the iPhone. Although they like the phone they say that Verizon is capping their d/l and upload speeds. I think the iPhone is really going to clog up the service for them. If you're concerned about fast 3G speeds IDK if Verizon will be any better than Sprint...in fact I'm pretty sure they will be worst.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Pretty sure this is b/s for the most part. Thats the main reason so many people are using that Verizon PRL now because they get faster speeds.
[EVO 4G General] :
interesting...

"Our Engineers adv us of a known issue in the area. They have opened a Service Alert for the site servicing your area due to processing issues.. They have not provided us yet with an ETR.

Let us know if you have any questions. We will set up a callback for Wed 16 th to follow up on the issue, if there is a specific time please let us know as well..

Thanks

Sprint TRV Escalations"
[EVO 4G General] Moricon:
More like 110 last I looked and there is no apples to apples. No free any mobile to any noble and they have a data cap (yes I know data speeds suck) but just anwsering the question.

Sent from my Evo on Warm Z RLS 1
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
my total came out to 92 something. With the discount for where i work, 69.
[EVO 4G General] :
in my area, if you do the 400/450 minute voice plan, 500 texts and unlimited (5gb) data it's $90.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
They fixed Chicago speeds. Past week has been constant +700.
[EVO 4G General] dynamicpda:
I'm not leaving for Sprint just yet. I just tested again and got 127 kbps down / 1524 up! I just wanted to get an idea of Verizon's prices, to get an idea of the options in case I get booted for using the PRL hack. I've been on Sprint for over a decade and would prefer them to fix the network--and for me to keep the EVO. I'm surprised it hasn't made the news or that there hasn't been a big uproar over it. It's pretty noticeable when your webapps do the big wait dance.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I guess they kinda sorta fixed it? We'll see for how long though. There are still areas where it's super slow but around my house, I tested:

3/11 @ ~6:00 PM - 1.2 - 1.4 Mbps

3/12 @ ~3:00 PM - 900 - 1 Mbps (remember, peak hours on a Saturday)

3/13 @ 1:00 PM - ~850 Mbps average

I'm not really thrilled with the speeds given how everyone on Verizon and AT&T can get 2 Mbps and higher constantly, but it's better than it was before. Is it greedy that I'm asking for higher speeds?
[EVO 4G General] :
i don't think its greedy, but when they advertise 600kbps to 1400kbps i would be perfectly happy with 1000 right in the middle, and you can't really technically complain about more than 600. im anxious to test chicago when i drive back today. id be thrilled if we're done with 200kbps days. verizon has fast reliable 3g but is expensive and limited in usage, tmobile has fast 3g but not great coverage and no separate 4g, not sure what att is doing but with sprint having a decent 4g buildout i think we should be happy if they can maintain advertised 3g speeds if they show continued wimax coverage.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
I'll be honest. If they use 4G as an excuse for putting up with slow 3G speeds, I'm gonna be upset. Because 4G rapes your battery and is basically glorified Wifi. Once you move out of coverage area, it has to scan all over again because the range isn't so great. On top of that there's that issue with the Evo's Wimax code where you have to reboot after you turn off 4G because it keeps scanning anyways. I rarely every use 4G, maybe only if I'm tethering. I get pissed everytime I toggle it on by accident.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
VZW does NOT have a data cap on their phones. I dont know why people keep saying this.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
No, but they're going to start charging by speed and data soon. It's official. They've said it multiple times. They used unlimited to reel in iPhone customers.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/24/verizon-ceo-confirms-plans-for-tiered-data-pricing/

Also, you might want to watch this. Sprint will not throttle or cap speeds after putting out this commercial:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/12/sprints-dan-hesse-differentiates-between-unlimited-and-unlimit/
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
As I think I mentioned early....after months and months of disgust with 3G speeds here in Chicago (mostly near north)... I've been really happy with them beginning about a month ago. Even tho Speedtest apps do not reflect realworld data transmission, (I use data intensive sites to test network speeds), today on Diversey near Broadway, I've run 5 speedtest app tests and tops was 1745...1300+,1400+,1000+, and 800 something.

Now I do have 2.3.3 full gingerbread (Ultimate Droid Rom), and I hear 3G seems to be faster with them but honestly, I think the towers around here have just been adjusted somehow.

On average? 3G downloads sites faster than 4G (a CROCK) for me.

I was SO ready to leave Sprint.....still might but Sprints a player for me again.
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
I would be happy with getting above 500 kbps in my home. I am getting below 150 kbps from 8am-midnight and from midnight-8am, I can get 600-1500 kbps. Not sure why that's the case. I don't think it has to do with over capacity either since if I go about 50-100 yards from my house, I can get 500+kbps during peak hours.

Need to get credit for the poor 3G speeds.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Doesnt really mean much considering Sprints data speeds suck these days. Unlimited is still limited.
[EVO 4G General] ballindroid:
I hate my speeds in michigan bro. They suck ass. Litterally
[EVO 4G General] 2k4mach:
they have done something instead of getting 20k im blazing today at 120-130k wooooooooo blazing down the information super highway LMAO
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Speeds were really bad about 2 weeks ago but now its looking good.

Chicago.
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
THANK you. My results exactly. Been getting **** at times..people saying I'm lying lol.

Averaged 1100-1700 3G today.

Hopefully this'll be rolling out nationwide.
[EVO 4G General] :
I wouldn't mind data speeds of only 300k if latency was consistent. Sometimes my ping could be as low as 100ms and others it could as high as 800ms...

Updating profile, prl, and changing radios has done nothing...I'm getting the feeling its Sprint...
[EVO 4G General] :
sprint called me and acknowledged that there had been an issue and things (towers?) were cleared. when i get home they want to do the speedtest tonight and even offered to call at 6 which is when their customer service closes (they said 630 would have worked too) - they have been open and willing to try to help, so that's good.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
My data speeds have been crazy high today talking 2.5 lbs down... strange

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
Lbs?? What kind of new measurement is this? ;)
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Damn, lucky you. I've only hit that high a handful of times. I hope that I'm not going to have to point out to them every single place where data is slow now. They should just upgrade the towers nationally. They obviously have more customers than they can handle so why rely on people to read back data off a menu on their phone when it's their job to make sure everything works?
[EVO 4G General] :
someone mentioned a while back a tech changing something on their phone or service and the speeds being amazing but then she had to put it back to normal. i wonder if she gave you #1/high priority on the tower to rule out your phone as being defective. maybe if you complain enough they just leave that and you get high priority data every time? :)
[EVO 4G General] :
im getting 1100kbps down and 600kbps up from a suburban chicago basement bathroom stall! hope its this good at my apartment.
[EVO 4G General] ruffneckZeVo:
My best download in the last 6 months was 52kbs I avg.15kbs don't know why Sprint charges me an create 10 bux a month for that not to mention when I purchased my evo the Sprint rep assured me 4g would be in my area in 4-6 months now I'm being told 2-4 yrs
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
Well still not fixed for me. Havent gotten above 50kbps in three days...
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
spoke to seen after i made that post my data speeds are been in the crapper again and the replacement phone is **** !

here is a screenshot

i also sent off another email to the lady i have been in contact with

hi i know you will be contacting me at about 4:30 pm today but i have to send this i'm very unhappy 1 with my data speeds and 2 with the replacement phone i was sent . now my evo that i had replaced was in perfect condition . the replacement i was send was well CRAP !

1 screen is pushing away from the base !

2 light bleed from the screen pushing up from the base

3 the battery cover will not fit properly i have to forcefully push it on the get it to snap .

4 touchscreen becomes unresponsive to the point i have to do a battery pull get function back

sorry but being a long time sprint customer i'm ready to cancel my contract EVEN though i just got my daughter a evo shift .

i understand things happen and service can be in and out . but NOT for months at a time .

i would like a NEW evo in the retail packaging not a refurbished i think thats very little to ask for inorder to keep a 4 line contact with sprint.
[EVO 4G General] GaryJ51:
Sad to say that I've been a satisfied 10 yr. 4 - line customer that now has to face up to the fact that it may be time to move on to a new provider. Ill give them some time, but my wife and kids are ready for new phones, but I won't let them until I see some sign that Sprint is going to do something to provide the services they advertise.

A good deal on something that doesn't work is never worth what you pay for it. :mad:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2219...sts_which_is_really_the_fastest.html#tk.hp_fv
[EVO 4G General] NYCguy2020:
After reading some of the posts here about data speed improvements,i reverted back to sprint's PRL(i have been on Vrzn PRL for a while now)just to see if there is any improvement in my area.Sadly speeds are still PISS POOR.

I ran 5 speed tests and the highest i got was 152kbps the other 4 tests were all under 100k:mad:.

Needless to say i'm back to the Verizon PRL untill further notice.

This is f#$@ing pathetic!
[EVO 4G General] skillzo1:
This is funny...not at you cheezy...in general because johnathan from dan hesse office is who ive been mainoy dealing with on thia issue. I explained i did not want a refurbed but agreed to it on them saying it may fix my issues...when i got it sent to the store and recieved it and did a speed test before i left the store.....got the same bs numbers....i said take this and give me my original purchased phone back. When explaining this to johnathan he told me yes it will not be a new evo but refurbished wich he then tried to push me another refurbished one saying itsbpossible its that device. Here is where i loled....i said arnt these refurbes checked to sprints high standards to he put back on the market...he said yes...i replied...so your arguing my exact points ive been saying....ITS NOT THE DAMN PHONE. Point 2 being...people do not want to buy a refurbished phone if u try to sell it....he replied...if you sold it its like a refurbed phone with being not a new phone to its new owner....i replied definition of a refurbished item is.....when an item is titled BROKEN then fixed.....my item ( phone ) isnt and never was broke.....so no i will not accept a refurbished phone. If i do and the issue isnt fixed will you let me out of my contract without an etf? Basically he said no and that they would want to send me another phone. I loled....this is time im not willing to sacrifice as this running back and forth to get different phones is rediculous and not the problem..its your service.

I dont get it...they will end your contract if your phone call drop percentage is bad but not bad data speeds. Dont i pay $$ for data also...if im not getting what you say i should, shouldnt that void your contract. I barely use my phone for calls and when i do, i will say its fair service...nothing great...between dropped, staticky, and echoing calls...it is nothing to really pay $70 for. I have a sharedbplan with my mom at 1400 minutes and whatever it includes...i dont know what it includes cause on an average between 2 of us on the plan we use about 400 min a month. I want my damn data.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Email Dan@Sprint.com again with this problem. I argued with them for over a month for a brand new one until they teamed up with the store by my house and gave me one. They kept saying "we can't just give you one". I argued the validity of "refurbished" and how they were loosely using the term.

1) Refurbished means that the device has been fixed of any defects that prevent it from being used properly. Little scratches and nicks are acceptable by the term, but anything major isn't. The problems I had with my refurb were:

- Screen bleeding (white dots on the screen)

- Light bleeding through the bottom

- Screen separation near the home button that got worse

- Weak wifi

- Super stiff buttons

- It was an 0002, so of course it had issues

I told them that there's obviously an issue with quality control since this has happened to numerous people; Customers have paid for a refurbished replacement only to exchange multiple times and end up with a phone that kinda-sorta-works.

2) They said that phones that are returned under the 30-day "trial" period are put back on shelves without being checked. I argued that people may return phones because they think the defects are just how the phone is (yes, believe it or not there are stupid people in the world). They should be checked.

3) In the warehouse/repair center, the only defects checked for are the ones that are written down by employees. When I took both Evos to the store, even though there were multiple issues, they only wrote down 1 reason for returning them. So the other issues are overlooked because no one else knows they exist.

Be sure to ask for a white one because the white ones have only recently been available from Sprint directly; They used to be a Best Buy exclusive. I got a brand new white 0004 with no issues whatsoever. Good luck. And remember, they CAN give you one, despite what they say.
[EVO 4G General] totalnub911:
possible fix??

Guys,

I too, have been dealing with these same crapass data speeds in a "good coverage" area.

I called sprint at the beginning of the year (when all this started happening) and had multiple 2+ hr convos with t2 tech support. I was told that a CTMS (network, sprint's side) ticket would be opened for towers in my area and that I would receive a callback in 3-5 days when the ticket had been completed.

Needless to say, fast forward to now, and I have yet to receive a phone call. I called the other day asking about it while I was at a sprint repair center checking data speeds on other phones and verifying my hardware was fine, and the lady was very nice. She has since called me back following up with me 2x now.

Apparently, the CTMS ticket was submitted, but never "opened" because there were no tower outages in the area.

She's gone and pushed for the CTMS ticket to be directed @ the backbone of their network rather than at the tower level. I should hear back in a day or two.

On another note, I've been running CM7 (CM6 before 7 was out) since this happened. Yes, I've gone into sense roms, tried the Verizon PRL (used it for about a month, then had to deal with getting my account credited for roaming+overage on minutes), but as a whole

haven't seen anything really fix the issue 20-50kbps download speed 800+ms ping............

....Until now.....

It may be a coincidence, but try it anyway.

Settings -> Wireless and Networks -> Mobile networks -> System Select -> Home only

I've noticed decent speeds 700-1100kbps since I've changed the setting. This is possibly Sprint getting their act together, but I don't wanna switch back and jynx it.

Hope this helps someone else.

:)
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
That's bs advice. All that does is prevent you from roaming.
[EVO 4G General] iitreatedii:
yesssirrrrrr!!!!!!
[EVO 4G General] :
come on, don't be like that. if it works for him great. if not, you can state that it doesn't work for you without calling it BS. maybe he happened to have some fluke interference problem, maybe it's placebo, maybe something else. it falls under the topic of data speeds so let him offer his suggestion without feeling like he said something wrong.

im as annoyed as everyone else here with the problems, but it's sprint we should be annoyed with.
[EVO 4G General] :
didn't see this before.

on sense the bars in the status bar represent voice strength. this is so it looks like you have a great signal, which isn't technically a lie because it doesn't say it's not voice. the bars are also more sensitive, meaning if you have something like -85dbm it will show a decent number of bars. there are no bars to represent data.

on cyanogen the bars in the status bar represent data strength. this is so you know what your data strength is. the reasoning they made it like this is that generally everywhere you can get data you can get voice anyway, so it makes sense logically. the bars are less sensitive, meaning if you have the same -85dbm signal on cyanogen it will only have a couple bars. there are no bars to represent voice.
[EVO 4G General] dynamicpda:
Heaven and Hell

Seems that WiMax does cover my area pretty well. I see the likes of 6.5 mpbs/1 mpbs in random spots around town. The ClearWire coverage map is pretty much green over the area. What sucks is being in a hole where I see ~70 kpbs/50 kbps. If I'm driving along a major highway, it's nice to have the consistent 4G speeds for Navigation routing but then I'm stuck at the gym or a restaurant with the 3G dribble.

With WiMax capability of Evo the situation is somewhat tolerable. I don't know how 3G only users, those on the Hero, etc or in no-WiMax areas, can put up with it.

People all over the country are also complaining on the official boards:

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/34011?start=0&tstart=0

Something is seriously wrong at Sprint if they are letting this technical problem persist for months on end.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
You're right, sorry. I was just mad about something unrelated at the time. But like I said, all it does is tell your phone not to roam on Verizon when there's no signal, that's it.
[EVO 4G General] :
its cool, you're keeping this thread alive and helping others a lot with your updates. we appreciate it!
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
So update from my last post . I got the call back from sprint did the whole jump through hoops thing. My ticket was advanced to the engineers (6 of them) working on the towers in my region. So will wait and see . About the new phone they said I should receive a new in the box evo in 1-7days since they are back ordered ... not holding my breath on this. Did tell them that if its another refurd that I will be calling back.

Strange my speed are rocking at 5 am by 5 pm **** lol

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G General] jblazea50:
Just talked to Lori Kohler from Sprint about the weak 3G speeds. I've been in contact with her since Feb 25. Yesterday I emailed her bunch of speed tests that showed that the speeds in my house was atrocious, while in other places, they were great.

So she called me back and said the workers checked out the towers and didn't find any issues. Everything is working as they should. She gave me the option to end my contract within 30 days without paying ETF since I'm not satisfied with the 3G speed. More like 27 days instead of 30 because my billing cycle starts on the 12th of each month and Sprint doesn't prorate the charges on the last month.

Edit: She also told me some BS. Saying that since I'm indoors, the speeds I'm seeing is normal and if I step outside, it would increase. Yet, I've told her repeatedly that after midnight, I can get awesome speeds inside my house. No response to that.