yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy Android Development] Dalamak:
Wondering this too, Was forced to go to t-mo Froyo leaked after my wife's phone's earpiece went, and the new one came with the 2.34 and not realizing that I tried to flash Chinese 2.2.

so everyone says not "downgrade able" but that is a little misnomer, does that mean i can use any Froyo based custom rom, or does it mean that the singed t-mobile froyo covers a security leak, and is not downgradeable to an exploitable release?

I still have a couple of hundred pages of posts to troll through to find the answer for myself, but I think that is what AgentSmith was orignally asking
[Defy Android Development] Higgsy:
By undowngradable it means flashing a .sbf, which when you flash it stops you from being able to flash other .sbfs.

The "Undowngradable" .sbfs include 2.51 Eclair, any of the 3.4.2 Froyo (TmoUS/GB/OranPL). ROMs.

If you flashed these .sbf's or they came preloaded onto the phone you may not be able to flash other .sbf's in future

This guide was meant for people that were on either 2.21/2.34 Eclair/ 2.2 Chinese Froyo ROM, as a means to upgrade while keeping undowngrability and most importantly the camera flash (which we had problems with since the 2.2 Chinese Froyo).

If you do flash one of these "undowngradable" .sbfs, lets take 3.4.2 GB Froyo as an example, you will still be able to flash other peoples ROMs - jboogie/adlxmod etc, as these are generally just the /system partition and are flashed via clockworkmod

The reason we talk about this is people want to be able to keep this "undowngradibility" if possible, however, soon it will be pretty much redundant as new purchasers phones will come with these Firmware already loaded.
[Defy Android Development] kadofl:
I cannot boot into Clockwork Recovery anymore since I installed the whole thing this way. I tried anything: reinstalled clockwork-app, reinstalled recovery...

what is left to try? would **** me up a bit if i can't try your modded rom :(

Edit: oops i guess USB-Debugging is still active :D
[Defy Android Development] Dorid:
Hey, thanks for your great work i was already using your 2.34_clear with jit! Now i couldn't wait any longer and ended here trying to flash froyo!

The steps (cn2.2+root+recovery) are quite simple and everything is working till restoring the gb_image. I don't get the last part ...

* Restore system image via Advanced restore = sure

* Pull out the battery = sure

* Reboot to the bootloader = sure

* Flash which devtree.sbf in what directory?

Can i use the devtree file within the us-zip? Where should i store it in a boot folder?

Regards

Stefan
[Defy Android Development] Darkcaptain:
Flash devtree.sbf with RSD Lite...
[Defy Android Development] Dorid:
yap ... thx, i already found another devtree with the same size like the one included in the us version. but since i choose the gb-version i didn't know which devtree.sbf was supposed to be installed at first ;)

@higgsy

just to simply this step maybe you could add an extra download option for the devtree.sbf since its not included in the gb-package!
[Defy Android Development] kadofl:
How can I flash back to Eclair? Froyo is not working well. Phone is getting hot and very laggy.

Update: I managed to flash back to Eclair by entering the recovery mode and wipe data, but i miss the features of 2.2 for example widescreen camera...Does anybody of you also noticed the phone getting laggy after a few hours of running and knows how to solve this issue?
[Defy Android Development] Tanmomon:
Thank you, ready to download, just 2.2 ~ Thank you, I write so many of
[Defy Android Development] sattiger27:
Hi Higgsy,

Sorry for this.

Little confused. My defy is running with 3.4.2- 117 version. Will I be able to apply the instructions in this thread.

Thanks for the clarification.
[Defy Android Development] sandresimon:
Hi Higgsy,

I've read a lot about the "downgradable" or "undowngradable" issues on this forum, and I would like to be clear on the topic once and for all. Correct me if I am wrong.

1. Devices that shipped with 2.21, 2.34 Eclair or 2.2 Chinese Froyo can flash any SBF

2. Once on 2.51 Eclair or any Froyo ROM excluding Chinese, your ability to flash SBF is limited.

Now as you said it, recent Defys (incl. mine) are shipping with 2.51 installed, meaning we already have limited flashing options and we cannot use your flashing method.

My question is: is there a cross compatibility list between the new, undowngradable, SBFs? More specifically, which ROM can I flash without losing the possibility to flash back a 2.51 SBF ?

Thanks for your answers
[Defy Android Development] rafaelw:
Hello, excuse me, but i'm a little new to android os, and i have read this post only today, after i have flashed some SBF files in my phone.

The most recent version that i'm using is this file - JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-11_BLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_USAJRDNEMARAB1B8RTGB03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTGB_P010_A007_HWp3_Service1FF

There are any chances that i can do what says in the OP? Because time have passed since then, and i don't know how to see if a version can be donwgraded or not, and i'm afraid in testing and f**king my phone.

Please, if someone can help me, i would apreciate.

Thanks since now
[Defy Android Development] joannerve:
I´m on stock vodafone spain eclair 2.51 and i want to flash froyo but if I do it can I to downgrade to 2.1?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mgnrfan:
Hi,

I have tried many SD build available in here, but some how I am unable to get my 3G working.

Currently I am using HTC HD2 with build PPC_SHIFTPDA SERIES (RAM) Edition

(28.Jan).

I am able to see 3G icon, but all it does is transmit data arrow blinking, no receiving data.

To clarify I am currently at Manila using Globe.

any help will be greatly appreciated.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Archer:
Have you checked your APN settings? That's normally the problem when you can't get a data connection.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mgnrfan:
Hi Thanks, yes I have checked APN.

Same APN settings works on my Windows Mobile
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mgnrfan:
Guys any help will be appreciated.. please help
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jalshah05:
If you are TMOUS user, try these APN settings:-

Name: T-Mobile US

APN: epc.tmobile.com

Proxy: <Not Set>

Port: <Not Set>

Username: <Not Set>

Password: <Not Set>

Server: <Not Set>

MMSC: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc

MMS Proxy: <Not Set>

MMS Port: <Not Set>

MMS Protocol: WAP 2.0

MCC: 310

MCN: 260

Authentication Type: <Not Set>

APN Type: default,supl,mms

If you are not TMOUS user, try this thread:- http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=899726
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stormbeta:
This is my first android phone, so bear with me if anything I ask is obvious.

1. What are the limitations of temp root? Obviously it's not practical to install a custom ROM, but what about things like juice defender, changing the status bar skin, etc?

2. What are the security risks of rooting the phone? I've heard there are files that are only protected by permissions instead of encryption for example. Plus my linux experience makes me wary of the implied running as root.

3. If I root the phone, I assume I can back up non-market, paid apps like Launcher Pro to reload safely after rooting or installing a custom mod, right?

4. Aside from the status bar, setting the CPU, and being able to remove the pre-installed apps, what other benefits does root offer? (I bought my phone unlocked already)

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IVI4V3R1CK:
OK, I'm sending this from my phone so bare with me if things aren't as crisp and percise.

Some of the advantages to rooting means you get permanent, (almost) unrestricted access to anything you want your phone to do. This means that you can flash things like kernels and radios for better performance, overclock the device, and do things such as make the little LED light up when you get a text message and wake up the phone by pressing the action button.

With you being temp rooted, that means once you reboot the phone you'll lose root. The only benifit is if you want to apply a mod that requires root to modify, but not root to run. Once you reboot, you loose root, but can keep the mod.

You're right in the regards that once you root you can modify files that can hurt the phone, but the keyword in that sentence is YOU. If you don't want to mod those files then don't. No one has a gun to your head, you know?

I was nervous about rooting my phone but following the guides I was able to easily do it with no trouble. Now that I'm rooted I'm running a custom rom, my own theme, custom settings, and am overclocked. Just because I can.

Also, use the search function next time. There's plenty of FAQs about rooting, pros and cons, stuff like that. Have fun with your phone.

Sent from my phone which was more than my rent
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jedarojr:
I am using mikfroyo's latest...searched forums...sorry if this is answered..how do I install the apps in the removed folder?...tried esstrong,monsterapp.... I an trying to install sprint navigation back on my phone...thanks for the help!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evolishesh:
Use astro file manager.

Sent from my evil evo!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jedarojr:
Astro is no go :(
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdogg836:
why not? navigate through the sdcard to the removed apps folder, pick the .apk you want to install and tap (don't long press) it. it should then give you the option to install. make sure you have checked the unknown sources checkbox in applications so it will let you install apks from the sdcard.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jedarojr:
Click to install...gives me all the access warnings...finishes installing and displays an error message that says it failed ?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evolishesh:
Do you have unknown source check?

Sent from my evil evo!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jedarojr:
Yes...i tried to be poetry thorough before I posted...checked forum and did google search...just not working...i don't injure if its because its a sprint app or what ?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jedarojr:
# pretty thorough##
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evolishesh:
Try this.use amo-ra, and do a wipe of cach and dalvic, not data, and see if that helps. Than try again.

Sent from my evil evo!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evolishesh:
Than go into applications, manage, all, astro file manager and forced stop, clear data.than try again.

Sent from my evil evo!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jedarojr:
Forgive me..amo ra?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jedarojr:
Amo_ra?...is that an app?... Done a lot of rooting...but not familiar with that?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evolishesh:
Download rom manager from market.open, flash clock work mod, than go down and flash alternative recovery, witch is amo ra.than reboot into recovery, and do a clean of cache, dalvic.don't do data.

Sent from my evil evo!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jedarojr:
Gotcha...thank you..before I try I noticed something... In astro under details of sprint navigation it shows that the file size is 0...maybe the app is missing? I don't understand why it goes through the whole install if thats the case?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evolishesh:
Well that could be the problem.okay.go into google and search fire sprint stock apps on xda.this should bring a topic with the apks.

Sent from my evil evo!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evolishesh:
Here you go.http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/sprint-epic-4g/135352-all-sprint-stock-apks-custom-roms.html

Sent from my evil evo!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jedarojr:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=901393

I just found this...thank you...very much!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evolishesh:
No problem. Glad I could help!

Sent from my evil evo!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jedarojr:
Now I feel like a jerk....assuming I have to install to system/app... Programs won't let me write to that folder?

Tried to send file via gmail...same 2 errors...app not installed, and invalid parcell
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aimbdd:
You can't just click on the app to install on mikfroyo. You have to push the app to the system apps folder.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jedarojr:
ok...on my new evo that was rooted using the "new root method" I used the following:

adb remount

adb push Sprint_Navigator.apk /system/app

It worked!!!!! (Of course, I copied the Sprint_Navigator.apk from the sd card, and moved it into my evoroot folder, because I am not that good with adb code)

Next problem....on my other evo, I rooted with the original method posted by toastch when it first came out...have stayed updated, and have flashed the mikfroyo's latest rom with no problems (love the ring ring ringtone!) I even flashed a few mods...still no problem, however, when I go into the cmd prompt I get the following:

adb remount

Remount success!

adb push Sprint_Navigator.apk /system/app

Failed to copy...out of memory?

is there another, or an easier way to push into the /system/app folder?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jettin Stang:
i am running on mikfroyo 4.4 and i used root explorer to try and move the removed apps sprint nfl and my sprint zone to the system/apps and i get the a warning you cannot paste here because of the file system is read-only and i doing somethin wrong? im not familiar w adb if someone can help
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jedarojr:
When you rooted your phone you used command prompt...open that location... Mine is cd\evoroot

I copied the apk from my sd to cd\evoroot

Get back to your command prompt and type:

Adb remount

Adb push Sprint_Navigator.apk /system/app

Adb reboot

Your phone should reboot, and program is loaded. Replace Sprint_Navigator with your file name.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
I made the stupid mistake of buying tomato-flavored vodka at one point in the $6500 stocking of my bar. Prior to moving last year, I wanted to get rid of it all and did so easily.

Except for this blasted tomato-flavored vodka.

How, dear friends, can I get rid of it without that sad move of dumping liquor down the sink?

What ever can I mix with it?
[Off-topic] urbanengine1:
Molotov coctail anyone?!?

If there's someone you hate, burn down their house and kill two birds with one stone...

:p
[Off-topic] Archer:
More vodka?
[Off-topic] jaszek:
pour in a shot, add some tabasco. 'Really' Mad Dog.
[Off-topic] Archer:
Maybe if you do shots of it and get into double figures you just wont care any more. Or vomit. One or the other.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
I'm working on shots, chugging two at a time, and chasing with Blue Moon.

The aftertaste is horrible.
[Off-topic] idavid_:
have a party at your house and serve that vodka :p
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
It's gone. Thankfully!

My burps taste like Spaghettios
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] STraver:
Anyone know how to get the "recent documents" folder to function in Quickoffice? I get a "folder not found" error message. It worked on earlier ROMs. Thanks!
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] STraver:
So no one has figured this out yet?
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] marvin02:
On my phone's sd card there is a folder named .quickoffice The dot at the start is important. It has permissions of 075 or ---rwxr-x

Under that folder is one named temp with the same permissions.

Of course recent documents is actually a virtual folder, it should list the your most recently viewed docs regardless of where they are on the phone. But QO has to be storing that info somewhere.
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] alperin1:
NOt sure I heave seen this problem before. I will try to investigate it.

Have you opened any documents yet?

I created a folder on my SD card and placed a PDF in it and I cna use the recent document.
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] STraver:
Thanks for responding!

Yes I have opened documents before. It may be ROM related. I used Quickoffice without this problem untill I went to DJ_Steve's 1.5.0. From then on this was an issue. I'm now on 1.6.1.
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] STraver:
My SD card has the same structure. I'm afraid I don't know how to verify the permissions status of the folder(s) as I;m a newbe to android having come from WinMo. The temp directory has no dot at the start and is empty. Thanks for your help!
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] STraver:
Update

Just updated to DJ Steve's 1.7.0 ROM from 1.6.1 and Quickoffice now works fine. Thanks to those who responded.
[General Questions and Answers] Alex13mod:
I downloaded this file and for some reason I cant extract it. I've downloaded it from diff dl sites and still fails. I used winrar and 7z and i get the same error
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FATEOWNZYOU:
what is the the best 2.2 modem for data connection? i know the more data, the less battery, but i dont care... i know JL1 was the best, but since with KA7 and so on. whats the best for data?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Monk4Life:
KA7 seems to be great.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattb6288:
i agree that ka7 is the best for now. ka5 is the worst ever stay away from that. after ka5 i got .03 mb down. after that my speeds were never the same until ka7
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FATEOWNZYOU:
And 1 more thing... hows the battery to ka7 to jl1... cuz i def love jl1's data. Is ka7's battery better or worse
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cryt:
I went to the Sprint store with my friend last week to swap our phones so he could see what using a smartphone is like before actually buying one. The guys there put my phone onto an old Samsung Rant and shortly after, realized that because my phone was running Cyanogen Mod I couldn't get his plan on my phone.

Anyway, they threw my number back on my phone and ever since it has not been able to get on the internet.

I backed up my phone and wiped everything twice. Once with Amon's Recovery, and once using clockwork. Then I did it two more times and put an entire different rom on it (Fresh 3.5.0.1). I updated my radio, as well.

So, in the end I restored back to my original backup of the Cyanogen Mod and haven't done anything after that. I tried to use HTC's stock .exe file to restore it to Stock but I got USB errors and it couldn't find my phone.

If it's any help, when I had the sense rom on it, I got an Error saying

"Error Code 67: Registration failure. Press ok for options. Your PCS Vision username and/or password may be incorrect. Please try again."

Any help is MUCH appreciated.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] WakeArray:
All locked bootloader possibilties asside, in the best possible senario I'd like to know if the webtop could be replaced by a full Debian (or other distro) install without messing up the way it merges with Android and the 10 foot gui.

Now obviously with the phone still waiting to be released I can't and won't expect an actual answer till some devs can get their hands on a rom. So for now, I just want to hear people's opinions on the matter.

Good idea? Bad idea? Waste of a thread? IMPOSSIBLE PIPE DREAM?! What do you guys think?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Rastor:
Motorola reps have indicated that the Webtop environment is Debian based, the Firefox about window mentions Ubuntu - either way I'm hoping the dpkg package manager is present and adding software is as easy as getting root on the device and then adding some packages. If I can do that I won't care about a "full distro" install, I just want to add a few packages for software I'm interested in. And doing so shouldn't interfere with the custom window manager / webtop features.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ruben_b:
If dpkg works this would be great.

I think replacing the distro would be complicated cause a lot of features would go missing. For example the freezing of the session.

One thing I don't understand is why Firefox is used instead of Chrome...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Xevilious:
I'm guessing it's because of Firefox's lower memory footprint when dealing with lots of tabs. Hard to say though. I'd prefer Chrome, but Firefox does make some sense in this environment.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Rastor:
The desktop version of Chrome requires an x86/amd64 processor for the V8 Javascript engine. Obviously there are Android / ARM versions of Chrome in existence but you would need to do some porting / tweaking to get the high-performance Javascript engine working, which is one of the main reasons people like Chrome. So I'm sure it was much easier to just take the work Ubuntu had already done to get Firefox running on Linux/ARM.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] davewuvswaffles:
I wonder if a ChromeOS port could be posible...?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] jorny32:
I really think that Ubuntu 's focus on the new touchscreen interface is going to end up being used a lot in something like this in other Android phones and tablets.

I'm currently writing an article about the Atrix for Techerator.com and I think it's going to give some good insight into what the future holds. Check it out in a week or so.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] adwinp:
You already have webkit in a standard android environment.

If the target arch is armv7+vfp ++, then v8 is on by default.

A full blown chromium would only, probably make sense for a tablet, but not for a phone.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Rastor:
Thanks for correcting me! That's good to know.

I would think full-blown Chromium makes as much sense as full-blown Firefox, which is included.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] johnnydeathmatch:
I agree. Not to mention the convenience of Google Sync.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] tiwey:
I wonder if it will run java?

(MINECRAFT!!!)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Pinepig:
I need Java, I'd love to be able to run TunerStudioMS to play with the standalone in my car ( danger to the manifold :p )
[Adam General] inspiron41:
First you need Root Access to your Adam device and ability to text edit those files. There are several options - (1) ADB if you have it installed already or (2) Root Explorer (File Manager) by Speed Software in the Android Market (not free, but easiest method). Make sure R/W is enable in Root Explorer

1. Find /system/etc/permissions/handheld_core_hardware.xml

2. scroll down in the text and find this line: <feature name="android.hardware.touchscreen" />

3. Add the following code following it:

<feature name="android.hardware.touchscreen.multitouch" />

<feature name="android.hardware.touchscreen.multitouch.distinct" />

delete the space between distinct

4. DOUBLE CHECK YOUR CODE!!!!

5. Menu Button ==> Save and Exit

6. Restart your Adam

7. Have fun~

Good Luck!

[YOUTUBE]cXCMqIqkMeM[/YOUTUBE]

_____________________________________________

special thanks for ptok for helping and suggesting how to enable this!
[Adam General] wonderwout:
Cool, I thought it would be a fairly easy tweak to get that working. Looks very smooth, can wait to see it on my NI this week.
[Adam General] ky3bmu4:
Keeewl. Can anyone tell me btw , how many points can be used in Adam's muliti touch ? 2 ? mb 5? or mb 10?) I guess it's only two
[Adam General] inspiron41:
Two only it seems. I tried adding the code for jazztouch that's only found in 2.3 gingerbread, and it did not work. Tested it withmultitouch visualizarvisualizar
[Adam General] ky3bmu4:
I see.. Ok thx a lot! i really should wait for anorher tablets)
[Adam General] clockcycle:
I think it has to do with the digitizer. My Sprint EVO with stock froyo detects 5 points, there were two versions, one with 3 point another with 5 point. Although you have to flash a custom kernel with 5 point enabled on the EVO, it would only work if you had the right screen.

I think there was initial mention that the Adam would come with 10 point in earlier blog posts. Wishes =/ cost effective, probably didn't allow for that..

-CC

Interesting: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=775991

According to the post/link on that thread this app has "unlimited" multi touch testing, not limited to 2-4,5 like others..
[Adam General] lakshmanm:
Tried it but looks like it requires the xml files for multitouch and multitouch distinct...