yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Questions and Answers] 88crows:
Okay, so I am currently an AT&T customer, using an HTC Aria, non rooted.

Life is good.

However, I would like an android phone that can WOW me.

So I pose this question. Regardless of its respective carrier, what is the fastest, coolest, sweetest, most customizable, and smartest, android phone, on, or near on the market?

time for change is soon. ill switch carriers for a wicked phone. frankly ATT is an iPhone store, and little else, and with so many restrictions on apps, and bloatware, I.feel I am wanting more out of my phone, and carrier. I want the option of a smartchip or sim card, and lightning fast data / internet connections. I live in upstate ny, between elmira/ithaca/watkins

so, any help for a novice in the Droid world?
[General Questions and Answers] roflha:
I am quite fond of my HTC Incredible and the thunderbold is bound to be great (for VZW). HTC phones have sense which is actually very nice. I didn't think much of it until I ran a ROM without it for a while. I missed it a lot..

Droid Bionic is also coming out pretty soon I think and it has a dual core processor. That would certainly "WOW" me...
[General Questions and Answers] orb3000:
There is no such "best" phone

What is best for me may not be for you

Said that thread closed, if anything else to discuss please PM me
[Epic 4G General] mtwow789:
I just flashed Bonsai rom and I finally have froyo on my epic!

Although I had problem following instructions, I finally got it working.

I'd like share my experience of flashing froyo rom on stock phone in hope to help other people who haven't flashed a rom like me before. Please go easy on me, this was my first time flashing custom rom.

First, I copied Bonsai rom file to sdcard.

Then, I flashed stock DK28 rom using the Odin program. This was very easy to follow and was done very fast. Within minutes, I had stock froyo on my phone.

Next, I downloaded Clockwork MOD v3.0.0.x and follow the direction of installing samsung driver and activated the debugging mode on the phone.

After the computer recognized the phone (it took a while and I had to pull the USB from the phone and back again), I ran the run.bat and clockwork mod was installed.

Now, I had to boot in to recovery mode, which I had problem. I didn't know that I had to fully turn off the phone to boot into recovery mode. After the phone is fully turned off, press volume down, camera button and power button and hold all 3 buttons for while.

Once I was in the recovery mode, it automatically backed up data. This took a while. After that, I wiped data, cache and dalvik cache several times.

Then I installed Bonsai zip file while I was in the recover mode. It automatically installed and rebooted the phone.

But for me something went wrong. The phone had mixed up boot animation, and it booted to stock DK28 theme. Also when I touched the phone, it didn't respond and rebooted. I had to pull the battery and boot to recovery mode.

I then wiped data several times again and reinstalled the Bonsai rom. This time it rebooted correctly! I confirmed by checking the About in the phone.

So far its working good and Quadrant benchmark gives me 1800 range.

Also I am happy that after few tweaks, my stock earphone control is working!

Now I am a happy camper!!
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Excellent. Check out the other ROMS when you get the chance.
[Epic 4G General] a2tz:
I too just recently decided to root/new rom my epic. It was extremely easy and not nearly as complicated as I thought it might be. Went with Bonsai also because the instructions were so simple and I wanted a simple functional rom. So much faster and better! Few little nuances, (call log having sms messages which i fixed) and the speakerphone toggle on calls but other then that it is awesome. Anyone on the fence...take the jump.
[Epic 4G General] Arion02:
I think I will take the jump this weekend for the first time. I have wanted to install froyo and try out the many custom roms for a long time now. I guess I'm just a little nervous but I'm sure there is not much to worry about.
[Epic 4G General] v3rk:
i tried a few of the dk28 roms (frankenstein, bonsai, nebula, quantum) over the past week or so, and kept running into hiccups that didn't really entirely kill the enjoyment of having froyo on my epic, but it really soured the deal. i appreciate what the devs have done with the dk29 leak. i'm sure it leaves much to be desired, but i'm looking for a smoother experience so just today i flashed back to syndicate. have to say i'm very pleased with that decision :D
[Epic 4G General] LordLugard:
The reverse is the case for me. No DK28 ROM has been worth it to me in any case (it's not complete/'tis a leak anyway). Got tired of the stop gap performance and went back to DI18 a while ago and it is a breath of fresh air. Like night and day performance/battery wise.

Until official Froyo is out, i'm not interested anymore.
[Epic 4G General] chino0131:
Im in the same situation as you. Ive tried all of the Dk28 roms and always came back to my DI18 set up. Most Dk28 roms worked well overall. However I personally couldnt get over the lag, no matter how small. With my current DI18 rom and kernel set up, everything flies. The devs have done a great job tho on all of the 2.2 roms.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ntsteele:
I recently purchased a Nordic Track 9500 Elite Pro. This bad boy has a 10" android tablet built in. They really don't want you messing with the android part much, but I am sure there are plenty of other users out there like me that want to do more!

This is my first post so I am unable to show the pictures via the link. Hopefully you can copy and past the text to view the images. I will try to repost on my website so it all flows.

I don't see where a post like this would go, I am not sure if at some point it would gain it's own device forum... That would be exciting. So for now I will post here. I will also post my initial findings for others in the community that may want to purchase this treadmill and can't find any information regarding the built in Android Tablet with WiFi.

This image shows the version information. From what I can tell it looks like they purchase an APAD from someone and then stick it inside of their device. They also must have wrote some special drivers and software to interface with the equipment and hardware. I was very happy to see a mainstream current android OS.

Android OS 2.2

Here are the pre-installed apps. Pretty basic. (note: I was able to find an APK and install Last.FM that wasn't included) Also a major bummer to see was that there wasn't a market application.

This is the typical workout screen you see.

I also noticed that the device doesn't have very much memory. This could be due to the built in applications taking up so much space. It only had about 57MB of internal memory free, but it had a built in 2GB SD Card. I have not gotten to the point where I have needed to take it apart yet to see if there is a replaceable SD card. I may wait another 5 years for my warranty to end to do that.

I have tried to install some apps but have not had very much luck. The only app that was I was able to install was the Last.FM.

I tried the follow apps, and they didn't install:

1. Market

2. Angry Birds

3. Pandora

Other disappointments:

1. Designed to not be in the Android Interface. They have an application that runs, and makes it tricky to get to the android desktop. It takes about 3 clicks to get from the main workout screen back to the Android Desktop.

2. The screen is not capacitive, it is resistive. I don't know how much more I need to say about that.

3. Only 3 buttons. Back, Menu, Home. Home takes you to their software not the android home screen. Long press on home does nothing.

4. When i go to the desktop the Time is all over the place. I have tried changing settings in every spot possible but something is telling it what time to think it is, occasionally it is correct... Just don't get it.

Even with the disappointments this thing is sweet. I wish i could install more apps, stream videos from a PC over the WiFi connection and stream music from a PC over the WiFi connection. Maybe with the help of the community we will figure some of these items out... Or I will be the only one who has this that knows about this website!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bypod:
ntsteele,

How is your experience up to now with your 9500? I am looking at getting the c1250, which is the same as the 9500, but with a smaller motor and no decilne. Is the 10" screen worth it? The rep at Nordictrack told me the only differcence between the 7" screen is the web browser, the google maps display, and some basic apps. But overall the workout system is the same as the 7' display of the 1750 commercial and that you can view the google maps by logging in on ifit.com. Thanks for the info and screen shots.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobkumar:
iFit Android App

Have you or has anyone else been able to pull the apk files off of the NordicTrack Elite 9500 Treadmill. I would be interested to see if it works on any adroid phone to view the menu system.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ecspike:
I played with this today at Google IO. The rep said that the integrated tablet was rev 1 and that they wanted to eventually let users connect their own devices.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] banishedskull:
what do you need to press to get to the android home screen?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stacld87:
Where I work at there is a Proform Trailrunner 4.0 treadmill that has 10" Android tablet screen. From what I have been told nordic track and proform are made by the same manufacture or something. It was returned because of a broken display unit. Of course I wasn't going to let them throw the old one away so they let me keep it. I trashed the main display and now I have the 10" tablet but cannot power it because the treadmill doesn't operate without a magnetic key. How could I power this thing and see if it works?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gpship:
I got the new incline trainer x9i which has the 10 inch android interface. I am interested to get in and try installing apps as you have but I am unable to even get to the android home screen. The only time I see it is when I turn the machine on and it is booting up, the screen comes up for a few seconds to where I can hit on the applications button and see what is on it. But within a second after I see the apps it automatically gets routed into the machine exercise interface and I have not figured how to get back to the android home screen from there. How did you do it? It would sure be nice to install a different browser. I hate the fact that I cannot create my own shortcuts. Anyway, love the machine.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ikhnatonx:
How to get to the Android Home Screen

Any luck finding out how to get to the Android Home Screen? I am wanting to do that also. I was able to get to it one time accidentally, but haven't figure out how to stop the machine interface from loading since.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CleverDog:
Home Screen

Ok, same question. I just got a C2150 which is a similar model to the 9500. Slightly smaller motor and belt, but same basic thing with the 10" tablet. I believe it's capacitive now, but still not great as far as that goes.

I too have hit the setup icon when it's booting and it goes to the Android setup screen for a second and then continues to boot into the Nordictrack IFit proprietary stuff.

So I can't believe the posts with the images and no explanation of how you got there? Please share with the rest of us.

Also, my console has a USB connector at the top of the thing. Any idea what if anything that'll let me do?

Thanks!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tpapa:
Anyone figure this out? Seems a shame to have a 10' screen and not be able to install apps on it. There must be some button combination that the Icon service team would use to stop the auto load of the iFit interface.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] graphdarnell:
Internal Pictures

I took the tablet apart to see what information can be gathered. Apparently, HANNSTAR (TAIWAN) manufactures the board (HANNSTAR J MV-7); which uses a Samsung ARM8 CPU(5PV210AH-A0 1044); has 512MB; and a 4GB SANDISK FLASH (SDIN2C2-4G).

I haven't been able to find sufficient info to track a compatible ROM, yet I can't imagine for the life of me that HANNSTAR would design this just for Nordic. I am posting some pics hoping that someone might be able to id the hardware, which in turn might help point to a more fruitful search for a workable ROM.

Try to upload pics but not sure if it worked. It's late, and I can't figure out how to do it smoothly yet.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GazaIan:
I'm gonna do another bump. I have a similar treadmill (or maybe the exact same one, I lost the the manual with product name). It is of the X9i series and when I saw it in the store, I had to go for it. I was a bit irritated to see that you are locked to the iFit application and you cannot return to the launcher. I need a male to male USB cable to see if I can get a bit of ADB on it.

From the (crappy) performance of it, I can tell it has about 512 MB RAM, a dated CPU clocked at around 600-800MHz, the screen looks like a crappy TFT display at 1280x700. Lastly, this thing runs Froyo. Mine features a full USB port and an Audio in port. Not much to screw around with. Downloads are disabled in the browser, and the Menu key does nothing.

I think something can be done though. The application that controls the treadmill can't crash as it is, and if it ever does FC, the motor shouldn't stop. NordicTrack doesn't have a recovery image up for some reason (thanks, NordicTrack -_-) so that's even less to work with.

Nevertheless, something can be done. It's not really a fun thing for an Android enthusiast to pick up an Android device with such dated hardware (the tredmill itself, as just tredmill is amazing).. Plus, it was $2,100 at Sears.

---------- Post added at 08:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:43 PM ----------

here is a video of the Treadmill and the board;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKyf6MHIefk

USB and Audio in is on the right side of the console.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wingsfan:
I've had my Nordictrack 9500 Pro for about a year now. Still working well for the most part (I do have messed up deck tension adjuster that I need to call support about).

Would love to be able to unlock the Android device to at least install Netflix, Pandora, etc.

I have had one over the air firmware upgrade that went pretty smoothly. Was hoping more updates would come from Nordictrack, but it has been a long time since that one.

Has anyone else noticed that the Speed Calibration utility under the iFit controls says that it isn't enabled yet? Maybe there's hope for future updates.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devmo32:
fanVrARCHITECT

Greetings,

I have been following this thread as a 9500 owner as well, and looking at what has been posted and see if there is any follow up.

1.) like everyone else what startup combinations may have disabled Nordic Tracks proprietary software.

2.) the usb socket on the top of the console, has anyone had anyluck attempting a usb male to male connection on a laptop? If so what has been tried?

3.) any idea of maybe porting something over via the Ifit updates or account? I noticed the HDvideo inside of the program is pretty descent from what I've seen, and looks like the video plays in the center of main app..just a thought.

I'm looking at getting the male to male usb cable and trying to interface it with the below. .. at least curious if the cable will talk, and most likely this unit is not root so view only but maybe a start if it works.

//www*howtogeek*com/howto/42491/how-to-remote-view-and-control-your-android-phone/

Cheers,

devmo
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greenwood625:
Did anyone figure out how to get android home screen????
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I read somebody was able to email themselves an apk and install it? The tablet enables sideloading? Ding ding ding! I'm going to try sideloading launcherpro or any other replacement launcher to attempt to hijack the home screen

Update: Didn't work on my c2150's tablet. Bastards.... I did however get my c2150's to boot into "safe mode" which I have no idea what that entails. While it was powering on, I held down home and back I believe was the combo.

Update: SUCESS!!! So by booting into "safe" mode, you can hit the preferences launcher while the device is booting to interrupt the ifit loading. From there, go enable unknown sources. Then launch the browser and google "z4 apk" and download it and run it. Did permanent root on mine and it worked.

ENJOY
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I forgot. Once you get the device into safe mode, install "smart taskbar" by sideloading. It'll make you able to view a task bar over ifit.

EDIT: Since we don't have a custom recovery, or for that matter even a recovery at all it seems, I've not attempted gapps. Could anyone give a detailed response on how to install this? I assume just unzip it in the root directory? I'm worried about permissions, I always forget what to set there. Also, the device comes pre-bundled with busybox, fyi :) Another must have for this is adbWireless. I tried editing the init.rc but it seems those changes were for nothing. I'll keep people updated as I discover things etc. I'm by no means a dev, but do know a little.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tpapa:
Sorry - can you tell me the exact steps involved here. How do I get to safe mode and then what? I tried Home Back while powering on and it still goes to the ifit screen
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
You know I'm really not sure what trick it is to make it stay. I had good luck getting it to stay in android rubbing home/back/menu while it booted and as soon as I saw the android home screen, hit the preferences launcher and then grabbed the top menubar and half pulled it down. All I know is that when you get it to stick in android, its always in safe mode which is triggered by some combination of those buttons on boot. Even then it will boot into iFit, but if you go to the settings first, in safe mode, it wont exit that screen.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seh4fredom:
Nordictrack commercial 2150 Android Safemode

Very simple folks. Turn treadmill on and once you see ANDROID appear in the center of the screen, begin pressing the dashes button that is between the home and back buttons on the console. Not sure if holding down works any better. An "unable to load widget" will be seen in middle of screen once the I-FIT software has stopped and safe mode will appear at the lower left hand corner. You'll then be able to check out the various Android options etc for your tablet. Be careful in editing anything unless you know what you are doing! Wouldn't want to brick your treadmill unnecessarily. It took awhile to find the key to safe mode access, due to limited info out there, but I hope users will continue to make some progress on exploiting this device and maybe we'll be able to use it to our liking. I would like to stream my dish television to the tablet like I do on my i phone or i pad. Being able to install the dish app via google app store is what I'm looking forward to. I want to be able to watch tv on my treadmill while exercising. Please keep this thread going! I'm sure that future software updates may allow for a better user interface. The challenge is certainly in the storage capabilities in the tablet itself and the sd card inside.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeyman2171:
I may be able to help a bit

I happen to have a recovery usb key that was sent to me by Icon fitness. I will load a copy of it as soon as I can I just have to get to my computer. The tablet on the C2150 does seem to be rooted out of the box (mine was) Maybe some one can figure out how to get netflix to work on landscape mode on this thing.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seh4fredom:
C2150 rooting

Haven't had time to try rooting tablet and side load any apps. This for now seems to be our only option because our tablets arent yet supported by the google play store. Netflix would be great as well, especially in landscape mode while exercising.

Once I have the time and the means to recovery, I'll give rooting a go and side load some apps. The main drive appears to have plenty of room for extra apps but the sd card is about maxed straight from Icon/Nordictrack. Thanks to all in advance!

Update. USB Recovery Keys are 99 dollars with shipping. You may be able to obtain one free from Nordictrack if you are able to convince them that you have an actual problem with your device. I've read several posts stating that folks have had to actually order console replacements because of glitches with the firmware. Don't be surprised if ICON uses that approach before sending you an USB recovery key for free. I just paid the 99 dollars for the peace of mind because hardware issues are rare this day and age. It's mostly firmware that's buggy! Once I've got the USB Recovery Key then I'll get started and post progress etc for other users to follow or not.

Update. I misspoke earlier, the sd card has plenty of storage and the internal drive does not. Now trying some suggested methods to root device. Decided not to wait till jump drive recovery usb key shows up from icon. I'll post findings.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeyman2171:
Ifit usb restore files

Here are the files from the USB key from ICON fitness. I got mine when My C2150 had a failed update. I am sure this will be helpful. I would do an attachment but its over 600MB so here's a link to the files.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5xz8pqm882xy43s/ifit-restore.zip?dl=0
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mears:
Does anyone know if the 7" tablet in the C1750 is the same as the 10" tablet (except for screen size).
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeyman2171:
From what I can tell and from what I got from people who repairs them the tablet is the same for the most part as long as you got one with the capacitive screen. If you got the resistive screen then the hardware in the tablet is different as it is an older rev. I will keep checking to know for sure.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I got the C2150 and I noticed an su on the device but couldn't seem to execute it. Maybe I did it wrong I dunno. Been working with *nix for many years, but it's possible. I did side load Plex on this thing as I had it from a titanium backup from my old atrix. Seems music plays fine. However when playing a video, only the sound works. No picture. I think this may have to do with me editing my build.prop to be a SGS2 though (which did me no good market wise) I'm hoping your recovery usb will have an original build.prop in it. ;)

Btw... is this a COMPLETE recovery for a C2150 basically to restore the thing to default factory?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeyman2171:
Yes this is a COMPLETE recovery for a C2150. It will restore the treadmill to default.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dmtalon:
How can you tell (by asking current owner) if the 9500 has the second generation hardware? is there a set of serial numbers or a model number change? Is the capacitive screen "glass" and the resistive plastic covered (aka like phones)