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[Atrix 4G General] Benz360:
I still can't believe they have a iphone killer on their hands and there going to kill it with crazy prices :(
[Atrix 4G General] deuceduzit:
My brother just got his unlimited back when he called and mention key words like "verizon unlimited plan" another one was "cancellation"
[Atrix 4G General] deuceduzit:
Im so glad verizon is getting iphone, competition is always good for consumers. I called them about my unlimited data several months back for the announcement iphone for verizon was made and after talking to a million reps they did not budge. My bro called them last wk and was on the phone for 15min..... got his unlimited....
[Atrix 4G General] xamievilx:
What does getting your unlimited back have to do with at&t being stupid and saying you need tethering for the laptop dock?
[Atrix 4G General] wraithevolution:
HA!! I knew it! AT&T is made of pure molten evil. What a load of hot garbage...

"Yo dawg, we heard you like the internets. So we added a data plan to your data plan. So you can pay more while getting the same!"
[Atrix 4G General] bose.jhebert:
Not usually one to nitpick but articles yesterday said u now get an extra 2gb when paying for tethering. I think it's bull**** that they're forcing it, but to say you get the same product for more money is inaccurate now.
[Atrix 4G General] FLAC Vest:
I like how half of the people here were all assuming it wasn't going ti be charged tethering and making it seem like the OP was an idiot. My how the table has turned.

Oh well. Im definitely not getting the phone now; what a buzzkill.

Captivate 2.2.1 Paragon
[Atrix 4G General] zedmec:
well looks like the answer is now clear.....laptop dock = tethering...closing thread
[Atrix 4G General] DarkDvr:
Yep, how can anyone resists buying a ****ty screen with a keyboard for $500 and then pay $45/mo for it? I mean what an awesome deal!
[Atrix 4G General] SoberGuy:
Even for anyone willing to buy it outright (which is almost tempting), the required data plan leaves me to believe they'll automatically flag an account using it without the tethering plan. That's what kills it for me. Why not just buy a laptop, get the next Nexus device that we know TMO will carry (because they don't give a **** about bootloaders and wifi hotspot), and use the next Nexus as a hotspot? I've stuck by AT&T for far too long. I'm done with them.
[Atrix 4G General] Rastor:
Another shoe has dropped:

http://www.androidcentral.com/atts-4g-policies-revealed

They really, really, really want to kill those grandfathered unlimited plans.
[Atrix 4G General] johnnydeathmatch:
That article has been corrected. Unlimited data plans will stay that way.

I also doubt that AT&T will be flagging anyone who buys the dock seperately to use. I use TONS of data on my unlimited plan, never had a problem. I don't see how the laptop dock webtop environment is any different from the multimedia dock webtop environment, and the latter doesn't require tethering. The only reason they want you to pay for tethering is because they are giving you $200 off on the laptop dock. Anyone who can do math can see that $200 off is equal to 10 months on the tethering plan, so you're better off buying it outright, unless saving $200 now is better to you than paying $480 over the life of the plan. You could think of it as an exorbitant loan! The only benefit is that tethering gives you an extra 2GB of data, so if you don't have unlimited and you want to pay for the extra data anyways, then its just a discount for something you'd have anyway.
[Atrix 4G General] Rastor:
Yes I saw the correction in the other thread. Refreshing to hear AT&T hasn't gone COMPLETELY insane. :P

I really wish someone would try a SIM without tethering plan in an Atrix, put it in a laptop dock, and report what, if anything, happens.
[Atrix 4G General] johnnydeathmatch:
Agreed! :-P

I'll do it as soon as the Atrix comes out (on my birthday). Others have reported the laptop being in at&t stores already, I haven't been to one here, but I'm sure I'll be able to find one by then. I can't get tethering since I have unlimited data, but I will have an Atrix that day, and I will dock it in the laptop dock and download as much as I can in an hour or so. If At&t says anything, I'll just explain that I was in the store and I didn't know, nobody told me! They'll have to let me out of my contract if they try to switch me, and I doubt they'll want to do that the same day I buy an Atrix. So, there won't be any risk involved to me. Heck, maybe I'll just buy the dock and use it for a week or two before returning it. After I download a few dozen gigs, of course.

So if we haven't an answer by then, I'll get us one. :-)
[Atrix 4G General] billyblonco:
?

Class action suit? since it's not really tethering but we're being forced to buy a tethering plan when in theory it's not really needed?
[Atrix 4G General] Nophix:
Holy thread revival Batman! Also, I don't know anyone who was forced into tethering because of the laptop dock.
[Atrix 4G General] ltdanno360:
I was when you call up at&t to buy one they tack on a fee for teathering automaticly
[Atrix 4G General] Sun3vi1:
Its not considered tethering, but by default, u are required to get at least the 2 gb data plan for 25 $ a month.
[Atrix 4G General] bleuiko:
Not if you buy the refurb.
[Atrix 4G General] _Alex_:
A tethering plan is required if you wish to use data on your lapdock and there is a pop up warning you of such. Of course the standard tethering workarounds apply, however, that wasn't AT&T's intent...
[Atrix 4G General] Trust1421:
class action seems to be the way to go! This policy is bs!
[Atrix 4G General] bleuiko:
All that's going to do is to get them to rename the tethering plan to something else and do exactly the same thing... it isn't against the law to charge for service.
[Atrix 4G General] ngerber999:
I begrudgingly accept being forced to have a data plan for my webtop. However I have the $25 plan and even in the phone display mode I cannot use data so long as I am plugged into the webtop. This means that when my phone is in the webtop unless I am connected to wifi I cannot receive emails or even use any other phone apps with data when all I am doing is getting a larger screen.
[Android Apps and Games] x2kjosh:
!!!If you have Android 2.1 the app now is in the market!!!

Android 2.2 and higher are also still supported

This is not another Auto Task Killer, no.

Thanks for all the help from everyone! We've moved into a lite and full version now on Android 2.2 and 2.3 phones.This is a new program which allows the user to specify alert levels to phone tasks and give you insight into what your phone is really doing. Make a call, ever wonder what apps may be listening? What's going on when you phone is in standby? In creating this, I will say that I've been surprised a few times at what is really going on. I want any and all feedback as well as we are trying to make this into something special. I am the actual developer of this app.

The full version has:

-Common Names and Actual Application Icons

-No Ads

-Access to all App Settings

-Ability to change alert level from List Tasks

-Removed Internet and Location Permissions

And we have a slew of other features planned for only the full version, but we don't want to spill the beans on those quite yet, but they will enhance the tool greatly!

Both versions now have the new UI as well.

Anyone who had the beta should be notified to upgrade to the lite version now.

Download Task Identifier Lite from your phone:

market://search?q=pname:com.task.identifier

Download Task Identifier Full from your phone:

market://search?q=pname:com.task.identifier.full

I've also attached a QR Code to scan for both versions. Or just search for Task Identifier in the market.

I hope you all find this useful and enjoy!!
[Android Apps and Games] notowork:
smart work :)
[Android Apps and Games] x2kjosh:
Thanks!

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[Android Apps and Games] Namuna:
Hehe, I like how the only comment for the app (5 stars and "awesome" as comment) is currently by a user named 'x2k'. Hmmm. :rolleyes:

I've just installed it and it's been less than a minute and I got an alert from an app that no longer needs to sync...So I disabled it (every little bit of non-sync means longer battery life!).

So far it's looking very promising! I'll definitely report back on my experiences!
[Android Apps and Games] Namuna:
Okay, first big thing...

Can you please resolve the cryptic app names to their more friendly name variants?

It's hard to read and make out the com.blah designations.

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] Paul22000:
So far it seems like a cool app. I've been using WatchDog for ages to alert me when an app misbehaves.

But I'm confused about this app. When would you want to be using this? Can you give an example?

I'll keep it installed and see how it goes. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] x2kjosh:
Thanks for trying. This is more of an app to alert you as to what your phone is doing, ie what loads at a given point in time on your phone.
[Android Apps and Games] Paul22000:
Thanks. I'm playing around with it and actively trying to make notifications pop up :) I opened Facebook and Google Reader started, as did Maps. Weird.

Which brings me to a question: how do we know whether the task started was CAUSED by the current app I'm using, or Android just randomly started it?

For example, it's possible Facebook opened Maps in order to try to get my location, but I don't see the connection between Facebook and Google Reader. Which is why I ask if it's random, or the app I'm using is causing other tasks to run.
[Android Apps and Games] x2kjosh:
I've found when you start doing things you see patterns. On my old Eris while I was testing this, every time I made a phone call, ebay would start! Glad it seems to be working for you! Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] wael0x:
Great thanks
[Android Apps and Games] x2kjosh:
You're welcome.
[Android Apps and Games] blunden:
Sounds like a great troubleshooting tool. Nice work!
[Android Apps and Games] Namuna:
I'm liking this app more and more. A few more comments and requests.

Comments

* I like the main app window. Large fonts, long-press to get quick-help or short press to go to the item. Nice

* Screen off app start notification, nice!

Requests

1. Possible to get more detail about why or how an app was triggered? Like, was it triggered by a service? another app? etc. And did the triggered app take any actions? Like sending network traffic or queried the GPS and such?

2. The 'Setup Alerts' window is hard to read through, could you maybe add color so all the status 'Green' items have the word 'Green' in green font and so on?

Just added a 5 star rating on Market, keep up the good work!
[Android Apps and Games] x2kjosh:
Thanks for the suggestions. Those are features we truly will consider adding as it will just make the tool even better. Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] x2kjosh:
There will probably be updates from time to time through the market
[Android Apps and Games] gravejester:
First of all, thanks for a great app.

I really like the fact that it reports on tasks/processes started while the screen was off!

I have some suggestions though:

1: When I click the icon in the app list to open the menu, it just shows the "Starting monitor" message and nothing else. I have to open an app to get the message in the pull down bar and click on that to start the application it self.

2: On my Samsung Galaxy S i9000 the layout of the application is just a bit to long for a full screen. We are talking about 1 cm or something.

3: I would very much like a log, so that I can check back, what applications started during screen off, and at what time/date.

4: The way the Android memory management works, I guess it's normal for Android to start and application/process to memory by itself from time to time. Is it possible to show this somehow? For what is interesting here is when an application is launching another application or process, and not when Android memory management is putting an application in memory.

Thanks for your great work, I'm looking forward to further updates to the application!
[Android Apps and Games] ADeadlySpoon:
Just saw this on the front page and thought it looked pretty interesting. Installed a few minutes ago, but so far I like it. Not too intrusive with the pop-up.

As Namuna posted though it would be nice to get more detail.

Also to have the actual app name rather than com.xxx.

Really good work. :D
[Android Apps and Games] Jubei71:
Installed.

I like the idea that we can see what tasks are really doing in the background. But as noted by some above, the notifications are a bit cryptic at the moment.

After installing and running the app, I started updating some of my other apps in App Market and my phone crashed. This has not happened before and I seems from my layman eyes that too many things might have been running in the background.

When the phone restarted, it too forever for anything to be displayed and the 3 widgets I had on the homescreen refused to load up. Again it seems to me that this app is popping up too many notifications - I have now stopped the app from starting up and running on start up.

I don't know whether this is unique to me or not though. I am running the app on Samsung Galaxy S (international) on stock Froyo with LauncherPro.

Still, I like this app and will use it more. Keep up the great work and many thanks.

Edit : just checked app settings again, and although I explicit unchecked app running on phone startup, the box is checked again. I unchecked the box and pressed save again. Re-entered app settings and the box is checked again. Am I missing something?
[Android Apps and Games] El Norupz:
This looks very interesting.. So it's installed and ready for testing :D
[Android Apps and Games] jdb78:
Thank you very much for that app, it's awesome. I agree with the recent posters that the name of the app in addition to the com.blah.blubb would be a great help to identify the task. Also I'd like to see a possibility for a logfile.

Keep up the good work!

EDIT: I can hardly read the small, dark font when setting task levels since I use almost the very darkest display settings to save battery. So being able to chose the font color would be great but has absolutely no priority. Again: great app!Using it all day long now and I am surprised what tasks are being started!
[Android Apps and Games] Coedy:
I clicked to stop monitoring last night before bed and when I woke up and turned the screen on it generated notifications based on the previous night. Also had taken 30% of my battery overnight (not too bad! expected worse!)

so making sure it actually stops the checking system would be good.

Would love apps/service names rather than "com.djfdkdsf"

A Log file organised by time/date would be a great help!

Thanks for the app though! its nice!

Does anyone know why "com.android.server.vpn:remote" and google quicksearchbox keep restarting at screen off? or know a way how to stop them? I dont use a VPN, does another app use the quick search box or something?
[Android Apps and Games] Ultraman666:
Installing it now will let you know my thoughts
[Android Apps and Games] Namuna:
More Requests:

1. Please extend the 'Monitor Display Settings' to items that start when the is in standby. I currently have it set to alert me only on yellow and red levels, but the screen off alert reports green items as well.

I don't have a deep understanding of the Android OS, but I believe a part of what the OS does is pre-loads some apps (based on whatever algorithm) as a means of faster access to those apps when you need/want them. I wonder how much of that comes into play in TI's detecting apps that start (whether on their own, or triggered by the AndroidOS).
[Android Apps and Games] x2kjosh:
You know I may make that an option as I had another comment on that as well. I also plan on trying to make some updates/fixes tonight.

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] Haxel:
When you make a homescreen shortcut, can you make it open the application?

When I added a shortcut to it on my home, it just keeps saying "starting monitor".

Can you also make it list every x minutes, instead of only 1-7 seconds? My "purging" is more of 15-30min check, its pointless for me to run it every x seconds. I keep fairly tight riens on what I have running as-is.
[Android Apps and Games] monomer888:
This happened to me until I restarted the phone. The homescreen shortcut worked fine after that.

Sent from my HTC Vision
[Android Apps and Games] ZeTortue:
Your app looks great ! But I have noticed 2 things :

- When your app is with the start RUNNING or STOPPED, it is still in the list of running taks from the I9000 Running tasks app (I don't know the true name of the app... It is the app when you push the home button)

- I tried a Quandrant test. Without your app running the score is around 1025. When your app is running, the score is around 750... :(

I hope those things can help you to improve your app ! ;)
[Android Apps and Games] monomer888:
Just another thing I found on my device:

I managed to get a force close error every time I go to List Alerts and tap on the line that says "All Current Alerts, Click to Kill a Task:"

Sent from my HTC Vision
[Android Apps and Games] armyengineer51:
Interesting stuff. Would be nice to have an option to stop the offending program from starting for whatever reason instead of just being notified of it though. I'm a huge fan of Autostarts, but this has potential.

Anyone know why the hell XDA App starts when my screen is off?? :confused:

Keep up the great work!
[Android Apps and Games] messywrk:
just a quick question:

why does the app need the "gps" permission?

..it does not want "internet", so I think there isn't really a thing here, but I couldn't come up with an explanation either, so.. ;)
[Android Apps and Games] overground:
It would be a cool feature after clicking on a running service if it could list intents that have triggered since monitoring commenced. Great app. Thanks!

EDIT: On the "Current Alerts" screen, if you press on the top most bar titled "All Current Alerts, Click To Kill a Task", the app FC.
[Android Apps and Games] htnprm:
Can I confirm, is the app able to tell what apps are using your mobile data connection?
[Android Apps and Games] x2kjosh:
This is on our list... linking an app to its permissions.

On a side note, v1.0.1-beta has hit the market with some bug fixes. Biggest one is fixing the force close in list alerts clicking the first item. Also the screen off alert should only notify you of things in your alert level settings. Some other minor adjustments as well. Thanks to everyone for their continued support!;)
[Android Apps and Games] x2kjosh:
Hey, thanks for the response. One thing, whether the monitor is running or stopped, the app itself still runs. As for the quad test scores, i'm testing some potential enhancements to help.

I everyone's comments thus far! It's awesome for all the support!
[Android Apps and Games] elburna:
I second this question. Since I've installed the app my GPS-Symbol appears in the taskbar after every restart (and also sometimes inbetween) and stays there for minutes. First of all I wonder what this is good for and on the other hand: I dont really like it when my battery drains for no reason and I dont even now why. Thanks for any explanations.

BTW: After uninstalling taskidentifier, the GPS stays off as it should. Reinstalled it and GPS Symbol is back so its definately caused by your app.

--> Uninstalled till this is sorted out!
[Android Apps and Games] OffDatGoGo:
The more I use this app, the more I like it.

One suggestion: When I select the notification from my pull down menu it launches your apps current alerts menu. Have the Current Alerts menu display the most recent alert first.

DX on rubiX Focused 1.9.7 / 1.45GHz ULV via XDA app
[Android Apps and Games] x2kjosh:
Awesome everyone. As for the GPS I am going to remove the permission for it. I've also seen vast improvemtnt in performance with a change I tested last night. Expect an update some point today
[Android Apps and Games] elburna:
Thanks man really appreciate that :)

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[Android Apps and Games] x2kjosh:
Uploaded another one without GPS and that should undo the problem from the previous with any battery issues
[Android Apps and Games] cooolone2:
Really cool app and something I have looked for - for quite some time, so thanks a bunch! It really is necessary to KNOW what an app is doing prior to acting on it (kill, remove, etc.) so this app will be very useful.

I always run an app through the ropes so to say when deciding to keep it when new. This app will certainly make those decisions much easier and also help identify some of those Badly behaving apps which do what they aren't supposed to be doing, or just doing something they're not telling you. Lol... I'm not paranoid now am I?

Anyway, thanks again, once I run it through some things I'll report back as well.

Regards,

:cool:
[Android Apps and Games] htnprm:
Thanks for that. I was more meaning is it able to tell you what apps are actively using your mobile data as opposed to those which are able to. I've had a few friends who've recently purchased Android devices and they are using more mobile data than expected and asked me if I knew of an app which could be used to identify what apps are using what percentage of their mobile data.
[Android Apps and Games] elburna:
There are a lot (p.ex. Network trafficstats, traffic counter pro) and yes they do count the amount per app ;)

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[Android Apps and Games] htnprm:
Thanks for that. Surprised I wasn't able to find those previously, but I guess I just didn't have the keywords right for my searches.
[Android Apps and Games] JayPhill89:
2 features I'd like to see in this app:

1) show what apps are closing just like ones that start

2) show a quick toast about an app that has crashed ( some crash and make the vibrations but don't pop up a window. Or a background app had just FC)
[Android Apps and Games] gogol:
Features that I would suggest

- Capture apps which use awake time (awake during display off)

[OPTION] to record Android log to see what it is doing around that awake time

- Capture apps network activities (so we can see which apps is using network)

[OPTION] to capture this only during display is off

Those 2 would be very valuable to this :)
[Android Apps and Games] Namuna:
I recently found out about an app I think is the perfect compliment to Task Identifier...Autostarts.

Where TI alerts you when apps run in the background, Autostarts can provide the reason. Autostarts lists all the event triggers currently setup on your phone (new outgoing calls, Application Installed, Battery Low, etc...).

Since having Autostarts installed and going through and disabling things I didn't think should be triggered under certain events (like, why does Miren need to start when 'Power Low' is triggered?)...TI haven't had much to report on.

TI and Autostarts together makes for me having a lot more control and even more importantly more knowledge of what's going on with my phone!
[Android Apps and Games] LordManhattan:
Hmm.. this is much more complicated then i tought. How about a noob-mode with a start button, select all services, and that's it :P

Overall, good job!

Sent from the future.

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[Android Apps and Games] x2kjosh:
Good Ideas
[Android Apps and Games] mustafa.aziz:
download link not working..
[Android Apps and Games] x2kjosh:
So whats everybody think of the attached for SETUP ALERTS? It also will return you to the list in the same spot you clicked.
[Android Apps and Games] x2kjosh:
The link is for your phone only to get to the market.
[Android Apps and Games] gogol:
Could you please explain about the alert level?

What does red, yellow, green mean?

I still don't understand how to use this app :(
[Android Apps and Games] x2kjosh:
Basically you can set you phone to display different display levels. We can you three plus a 4th with auto kill. you decide what to set what at and specify a visibility level.

Thanks!