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[Fascinate General] Irishpride:
What I'm most excited about hearing today is that we finally have a leak of an "official" Fascinate 2.2!

Great work Birdman, JT & Kaos! I'm happier than ever that I got rid of my DX for the Fascinate when it came out, looks like everyone's "patience" is starting to pay off!
[Fascinate General] taypotts:
Saw this thread was created after I found this... lol!

Samsung Fascinate Getting Froyo?
[Fascinate General] erronr:
He answered that, thanks.

I am wondering if they can just grab the kernel and throw it in the roms that already exist and get something clean out quickly for ppl. Lets all hope.
[Fascinate General] Tkun:
Wow, great news! Thank goodness we have amazing devs here, or else we might not be lucky enough to get access to these leaks. :) Can't wait till the devs sprinkle their magic powder on 2.2 and release it to us. :D I would definitely be thankful towards them and all of their hardwork (not that I'm not already)!
[Fascinate General] jagyk:
Agreed.
[Fascinate General] _RTFM_:
SHUT UP!

The most effective way to help our dev. team is to donate money and 'uppers' to keep them motivated.

The list of acceptable drugs is as follows:

Caffeine

Nicotine

Amphetamines (Meth is a popular choice)

MDMA ("Ecstasy")

Cocain

NRIs & NDRIs

Modafinil

Ampakines

Yohimbine

Please be kind to your devs by doing research on the illegal substances they most enjoy. A combination of money/guns and substances listed above is optimal.

Thank you.

Oh yea, PATIENCE!
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
Don't forget prostitutes.
[Fascinate General] GoogleAndroid:
Kaos also said(well, after JT) that they have a Froyo leak. So that's probably how he got it.
[Fascinate General] phooky:
Hmm, seems like that would be counter-productive...
[Fascinate General] Grimis:
What he said ^^^
[Fascinate General] BlackHoleSlam:
You should link a picture because I looked on his twitter and didn't see anything relating to froyo kernal
[Fascinate General] iTz Nicholas72:
I might have to donate some PCP or a Jeoffree
[Fascinate General] xgunther:
I'm just curious: if it's already been leaked and everyone now knows it has been leaked. How would one lose their job with it being released to the public? Does the ROM have some sort of datastamp of the leaker on it?
[Fascinate General] miguel11691:
Because its watermarked to identify it, we don't want anyone to loose their jobs so we can have the rom. When its clean, we release.

From his twitter... Now i wonder how long does it take to clean up the rom
[Fascinate General] _RTFM_:
Yes. Leaked builds have signatures that are traceable back to a source. In order to protect the kind soul who gave it to is...this data must be wiped.
[Fascinate General] noxqzs:
The most probable way to track software is by slightly different configurations. This could be by way of modified code, watermarking, or any other method used to authenticate files. Since they don't release many copies, relatively speaking, each person that gets a copy gets one customized just for them. When one leaks out, then its a matter of checking whose copy was leaked. The devs here, know where to look to remove or modify the changes and this allows us to install their work.
[Fascinate General] Bwangster12:
Does this leak, having a more recent kernel, rom... Whatever they got, help the Gingerbread development too?
[Fascinate General] Crashspeeder:
Come on, man. The thread is still short enough that you could've read the whole thing before asking that. It's been asked and answered.
[Fascinate General] Bwangster12:
I've been part of this thread since the beginning and don't remember seeing an answer to the question, hence the question...
[Fascinate General] shdowman:
With all due respect Bwang, it has been answered..

Not pointing you out, just correcting :)
[Fascinate General] RacerXFD:
Bwang, it wasn't this thread in particular. Also, it does aid in development because the RIL from 2.2 to 2.3 is virtually identical according to bird.
[Fascinate General] Bwangster12:
I appreciate both o your responses... My bad for not seeing it.
[Fascinate General] lowtech80:
I'd imagine that they're going through it with a fine tooth comb to check for anything in the build that would give away who leaked it. They're probably also checking to see if it's a clean build free from any malware.
[Fascinate General] Bravedawg:
Verizon Manager said about Froyo Today....

That Samsung has passed Froyo and will go directly to Gingerbread...I was mentioning Bionic or Thunderbolt as I'm ready for my next phone....He was talking about how much he loves his Fascinate and couldn't understand that I was frustrated about 2.1....
[Fascinate General] bleeeeeeek:
ducktales!
[Fascinate General] dcow90:
I think it's funny how everyone was "on their last Samsung" and "hated their Fascinates", but now, everyone is "admiring how awesome their phone is going to be" or "happy they just purchased their new Fascinate".
[Fascinate General] iTz Nicholas72:
No I'm still set in the fact that this is going to be my first and last Samsung phone.

But still stoaked for Froyo and Gingerbread.
[Fascinate General] Eddog4DROID:
So what would the ETA be for any thing on the Froyo front? I am not talking about the bloated official stuff... I mean from the devs... Not rushing anyone of course, just morbid curiosity....

Sent from my Fascinate: Super Clean, DL09 with Voodoo
[Fascinate General] tmlhodge:
Is this real life??
[Fascinate General] Tkun:
I'm curious too.
[Fascinate General] Holliday:
It will be done sometime next fall. My guess is November.
[Fascinate General] gbcobra:
That's some exciting news. DL09 has me tied over until the next update so I am content. Big props go out to the dev's on the work they have and are doing.
[Fascinate General] CxanDroid:
I don't think Froyo will be "done' until Gingerbread rolls out!
[Fascinate General] ivorycruncher:
They will delay the release one day every time somebody asks. At this rate, we might see it by 2015. :rolleyes:
[Fascinate General] Kaessa:
This is definitely my last Samsung phone. I'm happy it's getting an update, and it's going to make it a great phone, but I'm not going to go through this again. As a matter of fact, when we buy a new TV later this year, I'm going to go out of my way to make sure it's not a Samsung, either.
[Fascinate General] gujupmp88:
while i have to say i havent had much luck when it comes to updates with samsung phones(looking at you too Omnia!), i have to admit that samsung tv's are pretty nice and if im not mistaken, industry leaders when it comes to lcd and maybe led tv's. they give sharp and sony a run for their very expensive money.

back on topic...can't wait to get this on my phone and wanted to thank all the dev's out there that are pouring hours of their personal time into this so we can have it. and just an fyi to all, dont ask for ETA's, that's just ungrateful.
[Fascinate General] ivorycruncher:
Sorry to go off topic, but you're only hurting yourself in the TV department. Samsung's problem is software, not hardware. I can personally vouch for their TV quality, and in my book it's second to none.
[Fascinate General] s44:
I just hope the leak doesn't continue DL09's awful "lights on all the time" behavior. Ugh.
[Fascinate General] Hatespawn:
As excited as I am to see a 2.2 leak I must say the wait wasn't bad. September till now was shorter than waiting for the 2.1 leak on my Eris if I'm not mistaken and 1.5 to 2.1 is a bigger leap. Eclair on the fascinate is mighty fast as is and not nearly ad painful. Flash and JIT will be welcome additions though for sure.
[Fascinate General] ivorycruncher:
They changed that on purpose, just fyi, and I prefer them to be on all the time, personally. Hopefully the AOSP and CM6 roms will make this behavior configurable.

Posted from my DL09 SuperClean Fascinate with Voodoo
[Fascinate General] Kaessa:
Oh, I know their TV's are top quality. I just have issues with giving any more of my money to a company with such crappy customer support. It has nothing to do with the hardware. :)
[Fascinate General] Copperhed:
Well looks like it was a fake... :confused:

"THERE IS NO LEAKED FROYO DO NOT ASK FOR IT IT WAS A FAKE"

Check out the samsung fascinate IRC channel and see for yourselves.

I hope this is just to keep people from asking about it and not that it was really fake. :(
[Fascinate General] Neuman.Tim:
Well in all fairness it says no leaked froyo ask and you are banned. Possibly indicating that they aren't letting us have it yet. The rest saying to ignore the links as they are fake to me sounds like the links themselves are fake not the froyo leak.

I may be wrong..probably just wishful thinking..but why would kaos say it happened..hmm

SCH-I500 - DL09/Deodexed/Voodoo5 +Sound/AOSP Black
[Fascinate General] FDro:
It's coming, chill out people. I can already see so many people losing sleep over this, let the Devs. do their work in peace. The less you guys ask the same questions and bug them, the more time they can dedicate to completing their work. If you want to give them an incentive, donate.
[Fascinate General] jazzyjames:
Could someone point me to where Samsung or Verizon stated that the Fascinate will get Froyo? and I am not talking about someone in customer service or in sales, everyone knows those people have no clue what they are talking about. And just from what I have seen, except for the few apps and a few improvements from 2.1, Froyo isn't much different. I had it on my Eris, and had GB on it before I sent it off to VZW to sell it. But I dunno, last I checked no company is required to send out Major OS releases, I can see how they are "required" for bug fixes, I know Android is free and it doesn't cost the company any money to get a hold of and develop for, but one thing to remember, that goes the same for our developing community, the Eris is a prime example of this with Koas leading the way on it, if your solely relying on the maker of the phone to release updates on the phone good luck. The Eris only got 2.1, but because of some awesome Dev's this phone will continue to live on. I mean look at the HTC Vogue, a phone that didn't even come with Android it had a fully functional build of Froyo on it. So in my opinion the best thing anyone can do is stop whining about how "Samsung doesn't support the product" and support your devs.

Am I not happy about Samsung not having Froyo, sure I am. Is it going to effect me on what phone I get next? I will still probably get a Samsung, because I love the build of the phone.

But I am going to take a full solid look at the dev community first before I pick my phone, because that is what makes the phone last for a long time.
[Fascinate General] Bwangster12:
I think JazzyJames makes a good point about the dev community being the future of a phone. That being said, wouldn't one say that the Fascinate's dev community is tremendous? I mean, nothing I'm about to say is my own thought, but it's been like 4-5 months, the main devs in this community are "the best of the best", and the Fascinate is a Galaxy S phone, so regardless of the fact that Samsung has been weird with updates, they've sold A LOT of phones from this line and would probably not want to completely destroy the brand.

It might be SLOW development as things get released, but wouldn't one guess that it'll EVENTUALLY develop as code is released?
[Fascinate General] Prince135:
Upon release it was stated all galaxy S phones would get Android 2.2. At one time the Fascinate was promised it by Oct 2010 or something like that, and was delayed. It was then promised "by end of year 2010," as you can see that has gone by.

It's not that people expect all phones to be updated, it's the fact that it has been promised and accessories such as the official desk dock is crippled, the 3.5mm jack won't work until 2.2, and the USB to HDMI out cable won't work until 2.2.

I did not give you links because you did not research yourself, now you at least have something to google with.
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
It was actually never given an actual promise date.

Internal Verizon docs don't count.
[Fascinate General] Prince135:
My apologies, it's hard to distinguish such things from old news articles, but it was promised nonetheless, am I right?
[Fascinate General] jazzyjames:
Yeah I have a hard time accepting Verizon internal documents or Samsungs, because as anyone who as ever worked for any company knows, they could be planning on releasing it, but unforeseen circumstances may make it so it may not be released or delayed. I mean we have all seen different programs or devices that never were released due to either budgets or the product plain and simply sucked.

And I know Samsung has sold a lot of phones, now are they giving the finger to this device? Who really knows other then them, but when you have atleast 4 different devices with 4 different carriers. Thats a lot to swallow, even if we know a XDA dev could get the device working in no time, but as we all know that devs can screw stuff up, cause your phone to bootloop or something, and I am sure that is something samsung does not want. Can it happen even with samsung? Sure it can.

The biggest complaint for me is the GPS on the Fascinate, it works great for me when WiFi is turned on or I am outside, which to me is annoying. But its a minor issue and I will be happy when we get Froyo. But I am not going to stress over it, because as we all know in the end

XDA DEVS > ANY PHONE MANUFACTURER
[Fascinate General] DeezNotes:
Would Samsung be a better company if they released the code needed for devs to develop before they released their stock final update? Just curious.
[Fascinate General] crookshanks:
I think all the Fascinate specific desk cradles with a sticker over the audio jack that says, "will be active after Froyo update" counts. I didn't buy the cradle and I'm more than happy with 2.1 but I can understand why some people would be upset about spending $30 on a cradle with the promise of functionality via an update to 2.2.
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
Promised verbally, and promised by non-working dock audio jacks, yeah.
[Fascinate General] jazzyjames:
Now who makes that cradle, is it Verizon or Samsung? Or some 3rd party company?
[Fascinate General] Bwangster12:
Correct me if I am wrong, a 3rd party will typically make the accessories on behalf of Samsung or Verizon. Hence, why you see OEM products... those 3rd parties continue to make the accessories when Samsung/Verizon no longer order them.
[Fascinate General] crookshanks:
Samsung. It's on their website. I'm not allowed to post links I don't think but take the spaces out of this: www. samsung. com /us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ECR-D985BEGSTA-features
[Fascinate General] jazzyjames:
Because technically I could make a cradle on it and put a sticker on it and say it will not work until android 3.0 is available, I personally on accept announcements from Verizon or Samsung. Because more then likely there is a Verizon box on the device, but the company that actually makes the device is not Verizon.
[Fascinate General] Grimis:
LMAO so true. I admit being mad, but, was still going to get a GS2 ;)
[Fascinate General] Grimis:
Panasonic tvs are better ;)
[Fascinate General] crookshanks:
Well follow my last post and tell me if you think Samsung's webpage counts.
[Fascinate General] FDro:
G25 or nothing, s2 looks bland in comparison
[Fascinate General] tmlhodge:
This leak is getting blown out of proportion, koas's twitter is all over the internet. Could anything bad happen from all this publicity?
[Fascinate General] J Shed:
Doubt it. The companies don't like the leaks, so they do everything they can to prevent them, but it's almost inevitable it'll happen.

Kaos is under no obligation to the company, so I doubt they can really say anything unless he was hacking apart proprietary code and reselling it or distributing a paid product for free.

The worst that would probably happen (unless the leak is released early, or the leaker is outed of course) is the companies tighten the reigns a bit more.
[Fascinate General] upsidedownaaron:
i just got word from a russian guy i know who works at samsung in tunesia. and he said that samsung released the leak on purpose just to piss off verizon and mess with their iphone release.

you see verizon was supposed to pay samsung a hundred billion dollars for froyo from samsung or they were going to release sea bass with laser beams on their heads.

so since verizon refused to pay their bill, samsung sent the froyo source code in the form of fortran punch cards to kaos. thank god he had a reader on his old milling machine that fed into his 8088.

whew.
[Fascinate General] skater95:
I honestly have not a clue what this guy is talking about, but it made me laugh
[Fascinate General] Kubernetes:
Samsung knows what's going on, and I don't think they really care. Look at the Vibrant: there's a ROM leak every few weeks and we've never heard anything about Samsung or T-Mobile doing anything about it. If anything, the widespread belief is that Samsung allows the ROMs to leak in order to let the XDA devs fix bugs and otherwise tweak them.
[Fascinate General] Bwangster12:
While I don't think Samsung employees are told to actively leak code, I would imagine that in many ways it only helps a phone for code to be released.

This isn't a case where Samsung is selling us an update, this is a case where they are providing us an update for free. If they can leak some information to the community and continue the life of a phone, therefore keeping it current and active in the community, they will make more money.
[Fascinate General] J Shed:
Why would you think Samsung of Verizon would want end users to know what happens behind their doors in relation to these leaks? What would happen is the employee would either be written up, or fired for violating their NDA. Do you think they want people to know that?

Also, bug fixes the devs here come up with may not be entirely relevant to Samsung considering they are going to push Froyo with Touchwiz baked in.

The leaks actually can cost them money (them is mainly Verizon.) How? Because of people who install them, brick their phone, and then call Verizon or take their phones to the stores. Plus it can be bad press if a leak goes out that ends up destroying phones and people decided to put the blame on Samsung and Verizon.

The "help move units" comment is an intriguing argument though. On one hand, the majority of the people who purchase this phone are buying it for what it is from the store, not because of the development community. You start tossing around phrases like Open Source, ASOP, Voodoo, Lagfix, and Rooting, and you'll be greeted by a lot of blank stares. Most of them could care less about some of the tweaks we all know and love, so they're no more likely to purchase the Fascinate over the Droid X because of them.

On the other hand, Microsoft is really benefiting from the homebrew development community, and they've actually accepted it. The Kinect has sold millions more than they expected, and a significant reason is all the homebrew work done with it. Windows Phone 7 is gaining ground for the same reasons as well. Clearly MS has recognized a potential revenue stream and are hopping on it. Smart decision IMO.
[Fascinate General] s44:
They don't do this stuff intentionally, but supercurio (the Voodoo guy) has pitched to them that they should.
[Fascinate General] Kubernetes:
Why would you think Samsung of Verizon would want end users to know what happens behind their doors in relation to these leaks? What would happen is the employee would either be written up, or fired for violating their NDA. Do you think they want people to know that?

And yet all manner of ROMs continue to leak from Samsung, including the passwords needed to open the files. Samsung is either doing it themselves or they simply don't care.
[Fascinate General] Wifianator:
Whattt? Just some adderal, concerta, etc. Why yohimbe? That's an erectile dysfunction herb.

Sent from my SCH-I500
[Fascinate General] _RTFM_:
Where do you think new devs come from? They aren't delivered by storks!
[Fascinate General] xgunther:
Dude, stop kissing ass and shut up. Comments like these are just equally as annoying as the ones complaining about their phones.

I AM "admiring how awesome their phone is going to be" with this leak, but this is STILL my last Samsung. You see, I have another 2 years before I can upgrade.
[Fascinate General] upsidedownaaron:
^paddling on the left side of the same boat...
[Fascinate General] lbmorgan:
Meh ... Papicock!
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
What makes you think the files are password protected?
[Fascinate General] xgunther:
Touche Aaron, touche.
[Fascinate General] xgunther:
By the way, thanks to all for answering my question about watermarks and such without jumping down my throat. :)
[Fascinate General] J Shed:
If "all manner of ROMs" were leaking like water from a busted pipe, we would've been on Froyo months ago, because it's been in development for a little while.

Samsung is not leaking them, their employees are. They would love to plug the leaks, but unless some jerkoff outs the leaker, they really can't do anything.
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
When you have dill holes like the dude who posted the leaked Froyo from IRC, when it was supposed to stay there...you know who you can trust. Nobody. Thats why leakers are being careful. The community is full of morons.

The funy thing is, it wasn't even Froyo. He just dumped the leak on XDA and assumed.

LOL.
[Fascinate General] imnuts:
Someone should have put a boot animation that made it look like it was an i9000 or Captivate ROM...
[Fascinate General] RacerXFD:
Well, in all honesty, if you want to maintain root and rom flashing capabilities. You don't want OEM ROM anyways.

For those who are reading and always tempted to post others work... Ask the respective creators/inventor/developers/programmers if you can post it... In this case, ask the person who even let you have the link in the first place...

Even if it is from Samsung, by not leaking it to the general public.
[Fascinate General] Dalamar1320:
All I want to know is if a leak exists, is there any word on TV out lol. Aside from that I'm golden on 2.1. So now to play the waiting game.... oh wait I was already playing that... I'll. Go back to the impossible game. That's more entertaining lol
[Fascinate General] RacerXFD:
I want donut for this phone. Can you imagine how fast that would run? We have the RIL. We should back port it.
[General Questions and Answers] randyored:
I had an earlier version of xtrSense loaded which activated fine and was working OK.

I just loaded the latest xtrSENSE 4.6.5 and I "activated" the phone (*228). But, something went wrong. When I would try to place a call or collect vmail, I would get a "we cannot authenticate your phone" message. I tried activating a dozen times.

Any ideas how this occurred?

I ended up calling support (nice southern gal) and went through several many support tricks that did not work. I found online a different activation code (*22891) while the tech was checking something. the code seemed to work, but the tech said that she had found a couple of things on her side that she also "fixed".

Long story short... I want to try some other roms, but I am a little afraid that this could happen again.

Thoughts?

RandyO
[General Topics] ChemicalKicks:
I think I've been running around in circles because I've been reading a lot lately about Thunderbolt, however..... is this phone even going to be considered in the UK seeing as the DHD is relatively new? So basically I've been working myself up for nothing :(

I was wondering if anyone knew what the next HTC Android devices are going to be in the UK.

Thanks in advance!

CK x
[General Topics] ChemicalKicks:
Hmmm called Orange UK and spoke to sales staff and specifically asked about the Thunderbolt and they completely ignored the question. So I asked a second time if she knew but couldn't tell me and she danced around that too. I just wish they could say.