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[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] guamhtc:
I would say..."most definitely able to use as a daily OS!" I've been using it now for nearly 2 weeks and I love how buttery smooth it is on our HD2. Then again, our phones are a beast themselves with just the hardware specs. Android is great and user customization is almost limitless, but the interface in WP7 has a lot to like. It's simplicity at its best. And there are a lot of apps that are quite interesting and useful, and the gaming is second to none with the XBOX feature. Even the regular games are getting better with each day that passes. Needless to say that the app store seems to be growing at a fast rate from what I can tell. And did I mention that it runs silky smooth and quick on our phones.

So, if you're asking whether it's worth it...if your an HD2 owner, it sure as hell is. And unlke any other phone we can have our cake and eat it too. Android and HD2 can both be on the phone now. So, you can literally switch OS's whenever you feel like it...and both run awesome on our phones.

But after trying WP7 and finally unlocking all features. I don't think I'm going to run Android anytime soon.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] haksam:
IMO the classy design of the HD2 is perfectly bonded with the classy modern design of the Metro UI on WP7, too lazy to go back to android now, though the battery is a tad disappointing and the volume needs to be fixed.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] sotong:
I totally agree with your statements, zarathustrax. Just like you i was using a Kingston class 4, and while wp7 was ok to use, market was slow, shutting down took a while etc. Since i switched to class 2 sandisk, total difference! Still testing battery life though. But this would be a great sd card to use with wp7.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] vista1984:
i used the sandisk c2 16gb card,, it was slow,, after then i changed to the transcend c6 8gb card, everything fine then.

I think card might not be the problem,,sometimes reinstall the wp7 could be a good idea before we claim xx card is incompatible to wp7 in hd2
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] vista1984:
wp7 in hd2 is stable now,, hope it last and survive in the coming update
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Ryoukou:
Well, thank you guys for sharing your experiences! Now i definitely want a HD2 :D

Today i´ll start looking at Ebay Germany for a mint used one. As the possibility to install everything you want on a HD2 is not so well known to the public, HD2s are still quite cheap to have at the moment :p

So this SD card might be alright?

http://www.amazon.de/SanDisk-microS...AJKI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296030373&sr=8-1
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] THUDUK:
Careful

WP7 on the HD2, a few things to think about...

1) Will DFT continue to update the build

2) Camera has issues with HD2

3) Multi Touch is not as well supported on the HD2 as with HD7 or native WP7 devices

4) If number 1) is updated, then you would have to wait a while before any updates Microsoft introduce can be used on our HD2

The only reason buying an HD2 over an HD7 would be if you want a jack of all trades but not quiet a master of any one. The HD2 will never be a native Android HD or an native WP7, but a very good alternative to try both
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] zarathustrax:
Agreed... I wouldn't buy the hd2 just to run wp7 off of, just like I wouldn't buy it just to run android off of. The hd2 will never run wp7 as good as a native device... we don't even know if wp7 will work on our phones after Microsoft updates wp7. The hd2 doesn't have as many colors as wp7 devices and will never have more than 2 point multitouch, which will make some apps that use multitouch incompatible with our phones. If you want to run wp7, get a wp7 device. Only get the hd2 if you want a phone to tinker with, and can accept that the phone will always have issues and bugs running these OS's that weren't meant for it. The hd2 can run a lot of OS's, but the only one it will ever run 100% is wm65. If you're looking to run a specific os, get a native phone.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] aenedor:
HAHA I am in same boat, ie a new phone OR upgrades to my gaming PC.

I want to stick with my HD2 dual booting WP7 and CM7 Gingerbread.

So far it works well, only had one issue where my live id was longer able to purchase apps from market. I have switched to a different live id. this is looking increasingly like an issue at MS' end though.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Ryoukou:
Sure a native WP7 device would be much better, but there is a price difference of at least 300 Euros. Is this difference really worth it? Can´t believe it...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] zarathustrax:
Well, if you go with the HD2, you run a chance of WP7 not being functional on the HD2 in the future once microsoft updates it... and we probably won't get updates right away, if we even get them at all... and when updates happen and the HD2 can't update, it's possible market and live services may not work anymore. If you want it only for WP7, I would definitely say a few hundred dollars would be worth it. You wouldn't want to spend a couple hundred dollars on the HD2 only to have WP7 be made unfunctional in a month.

Now it may work fine... the devs may be able to release updated builds soon after MS releases updates... but I think it's just as likely that we will either be stuck with this version and not get any MS updates, or not getting updates and ms updating the market and live services to not work with phones that don't have the updates, rendering our wp7 build basicly a test build that can't do much.

Also, certain apps will never work on our phones correctly because we don't have the same multitouch native phones have... and we don't have all the colors native phones have.

Now, the HD2 is a good phone in itself even if WP7 isn't functional in the future since we can run android well and winmo 6.5. But if you only want it for wp7, realize that you are taking a risk with the HD2. I would personally spend the extra money for a native phone if I just wanted wp7. Just want to inform you of the situation before spending a lot of money on a HD2.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] benjaminries:
Considering that the HD2 internal hardware is pretty much identical to the HD7, I would give DFT much higher than 50-50 odds that they'll be able to successfully port all updates to the HD7. Microsoft seems ambivalent as to whether that happens, and have signaled a commitment to continue allowing homebrew development. Those are the primary ingredients.

Given that the touchscreen and the camera focus are the only current bugs (especially this early in the game), I suspect they can also be remedied. From my testing, HD2 multitouch is not so finicky in the latest WM6.5x ROMs (you don't need to put both fingers down at the same time, for example). A homebrew camera replacement could easily accomplish touch-to-focus and speed up the snapshot lag.

I've gotta say, my doubts about this stuff are no greater than my doubts that WP7 will turn out to be a better OS than Android... which is why having the option to jump ship (or dual boot!) is pretty great. Let's wait and see if all current WP7 devices actually get the next two OS updates in a timely fashion.

So far, HD2 has got ADC while the Dell Venue Pro (for example) does not. If I had to bet on xda-devs putting their best foot forward on any device, it would be this one.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] zarathustrax:
You may be right, and I agree the fact that the ability to boot multiple os's in case wp7 fails as an os makes the hd2 a great phone.... I wouldn't trade my hd2 for anything right now. I'm just saying for people only wanting wp7, we don't know for sure what will happen with wp7 on the hd2 in the future, and it may be worth it to get a native wp7 so you're guaranteed updates when they come and you'll have a guaranteed working wp7. But obviously if you want to dualboot and can accept the risk and fact it may not get updates or work 100%, the hd2 is a great phone and well worth it.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Ryoukou:
I will give it a try. Hey, no risk, no fun! :)

Even if there will be no more WP7 updates in the future (which i cannot believe, MS still needs every WP7 user to increase their market shares), a HD2 still will be a much superior Android device than my G1 now, for just a small amount of money (if i have a little bit luck at buying/selling)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Blacked Out:
I use my HD2 a lot each day

It only runs Windows Phone 7

/nuffsaid
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] TheOnly1:
LOL. The HD2 is so much fun that it's simply the phone of all times already. I really would't trade it in right now and I'm happy I didn't sell it a few months ago as I usually do with my phones. It's the first phone to make it over a year in my pocket for the last 5 years and it will surely stay there for the months to come.

WP7 is surprisingly stable and bugfree and is my current first choice OS for the HD2. I am also pretty confident that all WP7 updates will be available to the HD2 users one way or another. It's not really that critical if you have to wait a few days after the official release. I'm also anxious to give MeeGo a try once it's in a usable state :)

Of course this is all true only if the prowd HD2 owner is:

1. Ready to accept the risk that he may not have any WP7 updates.

2. Ready to accept the risk of bricking his beloved phone at any time.

3. Ready to read alot about how to get all the fancy stuff working.

4. Ready to spend a night or day repartitioning SD cards, flashing a new Radio that could potentially give him 2 hrs more battery etc.

If you are not prepared for all this and more it's much better to get a native phone with your desired OS :D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] zarathustrax:
Exactly... if you like android too, the hd2 makes a great phone, cause you can have wp7 on internal memory, and partition your memory card so you can also run android from the sd. I have a 32gb card with 21gb for wp7 and 8gb for android... and I just got a second 32gb card to keep a couple android builds on, and ubuntu and wm65 when it comes out for sd booting.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guy27:
Hi, i rooted one piece hd and flashed ROM (TRHRHD_v05) on it but strangely after the whole procedure the phone didnt show any languages that this ROM has. I factory set before and after the flashing procedure but still same problem. I have used this ROM previously on other HD phones and never had this problem. I forgot to check the version of the phone before flashing. Any ideas?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guy27:
someone please help me out..
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blinkydamo:
What is this rom and is it built for the DHD?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guy27:
Yes it built for DHD, i have personally flashed it on many HD phones and it gives me the languages i require, but having problems with this one phone i got.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blinkydamo:
Do you have a link to the thread?
[Milestone XT720 General] Beako:
In my opinion, the XT720 is a piece of junk. I'll take the Galaxy S over the XT720 any day. As far as "hacking" goes, you can only root it, overclock it, install app2sd, and install JIT. There are no custom ROMs because of the locked bootloader. The phone isn't smooth at all even when overclocked at 1000 MHz (Unless you have like two homescreens and 1 widget). The only good thing about this phone is that it has a 8MP camera with Xenon flash. Take note on spiderx_mm's post, he has everything covered.

If you'd like, I'll sell you my XT720 if you're in the Toronto or Ottawa area. It's lightly used and has no scuffs or knicks.
[Milestone XT720 General] khalpowers:
u proof me wrong dude!..here my 7 home screen...:p

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[Milestone XT720 General] Beako:
The XT720 is quite laggy even at 1000MHz. I absolutely despise this phone.
[Milestone XT720 General] amjad_2020:
Hi heat my XT720 all ppl have 2.2 yeah all and my XT720 don't even Moto think to get it out i have post to Moto on facebook and i say to do them i heat Moto and even my friends thy never will buy Moto what ever the do if thy give it for me for free i will not take it i have order Nexus S so bye Moto for ever ...........
[Milestone XT720 General] jakelights:
This phone is a piece of ****. Im using a motoroi(korean version of Milestone) this phone is slow as hell on 2.1. After waiting for how many months this is what i got? All i got is a hotspot tha i dont use. I expect sonething new or speed boost. Speed boost especially. But its getting worst. F.... This phone. I tried all the tweaks. I even overclocked it to 1.2 ghz. But the phone just reboot randomly. Now im using it just for sms and call. Even during a call its so annoying that the screen was so sensitive the i always touched the mute button accidentally..
[Milestone XT720 General] Vistaus:
That's weird. You say you have Motoroi, but the Motoroi has 2.2 atm. Please explain ;)

I totally love this phone. It's the best phone I had to date (I swear). Especially the camera rocks and unlike others, it works extremely good here and no pixels at all like some suggest :)

I don't care for 2.1 to be honest. 2.2 is a free update so if they don't wanna give it, then fine, I don't care. I don't need 2.2 anyway. If there would be a reason to have 2.2, then I say it's for the apps 2 SD, 'cause my internal memory is almost full :P So I leave it to Dexter to make an awesome 2.2 ROM and count me in as a tester for the rom :) (-hint- MotoBlur is awesome -hint- ;))
[Milestone XT720 General] jakelights:
I mean the phone is slow on 2.1. I thought that they fix it on 2.2. Yah its weird that`s what i thought when i got tjis phone. But my korean friend has a galaxy s. And i played with it. Man! My motoroi was way far than this. Anyway maybe im wrong. Maybe the milestone model was more faster than motoroi.
[Milestone XT720 General] Riley600:
I'm not sure what the issue is. I have my XT720 (NA version) overclocked to 1000mhz on 58 vsel and find it to be quite stable and speedy (I also have JIT installed). My experience that anything over 1000mhz begins to get unstable and you have to jack the vsel way up (more battery usage). Also, replacing the homescreen launcher really helped (Launcher Pro, ADW, etc) because the stock one really kind of sucks.

If my carrier comes out with the Nexus S in March as the rumour is - I might move over to that as I'm sure it will continue to be supported and none of the this 'staying on 2.1' BS will happen. But we'll see if and when my carrier does that...and how much it will cost.
[Milestone XT720 General] AllGamer:
$700 to $800 CDN

$699.99 at best

now back on topic, the XT720 at 1000 Mhz runs really nice, even on stock 720 Mhz runs good with Launcher PRO or Go Launcher EX

heavy 3D games runs fast, everything else runs great

so i really have no idea of those 3 people that have complained about the phone.

they might have not configured something right
[Milestone XT720 General] Vistaus:
Indeed AllGamer.

The phone is really fast here when overclocked to 800 Mhz or 1000 Mhz. Angry Birds lags somewhat at 800, but at 1000 is runs great. Also HD Video Recording runs the best at 1000 Mhz, but I don't care. Also, I noticed that when HD Video Recording at 1000, the battery doesn't use more than at stock. And 800 also doesn't use more overall.

I really love this phone and I won't be selling it for a long time :) (and my next one will also be a Motorola, I'm a Motorola-fan for years now, although I had a few other phones though between my previous Motorola and this one).

So people: please configure it right, 'cause this thing is really speedy when overclocked :)
[Milestone XT720 General] malmöö:
I have to admit, that my xt720 runs absolutely fine..angry birds and any other game i've tested are totally smooth - only hd-video recording becomes a bit stuttering ( is this correct english? ^^) sometimes. And until now no JIT or apps2sd is installed
[Milestone XT720 General] secret_tidus:
wat nid to imporved in xt720 froyo is:

- camera software (increase img quality)

- custom kernel (enable swap space, prepare for future games)

- greater space for cache (enable installation of battle bears -1.apk)

- stock oc to 1.1ghz (battery life can extended by setcpu)

- DEfy's stock music player

- xda xt720 special bootscreen (required a talented graphic designer)

xt720 ll be perfect..
[Milestone XT720 General] ronnbon:
wrong thread...sorry.
[Milestone XT720 General] Mioze7Ae:
It's possible that the Motoroi is not as stable as the XT720 at 1GHz. The XT720 has a TI OMAP3440 (officially rated 800MHz) and the Motoroi has an TI OMAP3430 (officially rated 600MHz).
[Milestone XT720 General] anonaye2:
Stay away from this phone. The small memoy 256MB is really laggy when you have more than 1 widgets and/or running multiple applications (running overclock at 1000 already). Also, 2.1.... who would want a smartphone that doesnt keep up? Not exactly smart is i?
[Milestone XT720 General] Vistaus:
Trolling?

Seriously, the memormy may be small, but you're exaggerating here. It's not laggy at all with more than 1 widget and multiple apps open (even w/o overclock). And 2.1, alright, but Dexter is working on the 2.2 port and he's gonna throw out a bèta one of these days. So 2.2 is on it's way and if the kexec crack starts to work good, then we could also have newer android versions later this year. So updates are not a problem for now.

To the TS I'd say: throw away that Wave and get yourself the XT720 :) It's a really good Android-phone and like AllGamer says: not the top of the line, but it sure can keep up and the camera is really good, hardware too and it just does what it does and that's what a phone needs to do IMHO: do what it does.

But indeed, check the MHz to see if it's compatible.
[Milestone XT720 General] kousik:
With JIT, we beat stock Samsung Galaxy. It is unfortunate to be cheated by Motorola, but this phone is a good piece of hardware and sure a head-turner. I have done what Link2SD did, move apks to an "ext3" partition of SD card, and with 1GHz OC, it feels snappy all the way.

I won't recommend someone to buy it new (just because of Moto's stupidity), but if happen to have it, do not regret.
[Milestone XT720 General] sariugur:
i've been using xt720 for almost 4 months and before that i used milestone, galaxy s and some of LG and sony devices from friends... i can tell u the best touch-screen is in Moto(after apple ofcourse), the hardware is awsome, screen is a REAL scratchresist, the cover is strong and the backside cover is stable + looks classy. software is android as u know and always getting improved(we're about to have froyo from dexter-thnx to him-with all other functions). the speed? it workes so fine withOUT oc. for HD record or even faster actions u can OC it to 1ghz without any problem and even with oc battery life is almost same! besides that, if u turn off all wifi-3g and other web connections and 3d games stop showing ads inside nothing has lags at all!!

if u dont know how to use a new device, dont say bad things about it!
[Milestone XT720 General] metalizer2000:
i have samsung galaxy spica (i5700) which has only 168mb of ram and 800mhz processor clock,with several widget its still running well,still has a smooth scrolling,compare with xt720,xt720 device is fastest than samsung spica although its has only 50mb of free ram on system
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ArtieQ:
I got a regular Desire right now and I am into buying a new phone. Desire HD or Z? I cannot decide. I can say that I like to watch movies on my phone, watch youtube, browse the internet and stuff like that. I can't say I'm the person who uses sms alot, but it happens when I feel like it.

So now you probably think, just get the HD then. But why? Give me your thoughts please.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
Personally, the Z feels cheap

I'd wait a month or so and see what new ones comes out
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
I just upgraded my desire to a DHD, overall the device is excellent, there is a few minor flaws though like, the battery and sim card covers being badly designed and feel low quality compared to the excellent build quality of the rest of the device.. also if you have an amoled desire like i had, you will really notice a diffrence in the screen. Apart from that its awsome, and the multitouch actually works :-D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] justinjustin234:
DHD is much better...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] !PANDA:
and your opinion is based upon what experiance? If you havnt used both devices you cant say which is better- unless you just think that the screen is what makes the differance, not for all my friend.

I havn't used the DHD or the DZ, however, looking at the development section, I'd much rather go fot the DZ as the drivers the phone has are just unbelievebly amazing- overclock yp to 2.2Ghz, from a 700Mhz at stock! :O Thats more than 3 times the stock clock speed!

Yes the DHD has an amazing screen, shame not Amoled, but you know, the SGS :rolleyes:

Im not goin into much detail on the DHD because I simply dont know much about it..

I'd go for the DZ purely because of the drivers and the hardware keyboard, but thats just me.. make up your own opinion based on what you want to do in terms of the development and what you want to use it for- if you dont like the device, you will only have yourself to blame, not others that havent even touched the phone :)

Hope this helps!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erklat:
Desire Z is device inferior to both Desire and Desire HD. It has moar internal memory truth be told, but I don't consider it a thing of grave importance since we have a2sd and soon data2sd will be ready for mass usage. CPU and RAM would be a downgrade from the Desire.

DHD on the other hand seems right. It is an upgrade alright, new sense and the device is better, but it has even weaker battery than Desire and the device is HUGE! I have a mate who can't reach the opposite edge of the screen with his thumb while holding the phone in his hand. :D

I'd say stick with the Desire and wait what new pops out, there is bound to be something soon enough.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] !PANDA:
Desire Z has Sense UI 2.0 too..

And although it does have a slower clock speed at stock- theres always SetCPU- and root for the new update!

The DHD has got a newer version of our Snapdragon 8250 to 8255 which does have new drivers, but overclock only up to 1.5Ghz.. The screen is LCD so yeah, not very efficient
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erklat:
I just hope they implement Sense 2.0 on Desire. I must have that remote lock&wipe thingy :D

I'm not sure you would want to overclock the descendant of the device who already had poor battery performance, just this comes with moar inferior battery, better CPU(more instructions, could be more efficient?) and 0.6" larger screen.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ArtieQ:
To be honest guys, I bought an iPhone 4 just because of the fact that I ain't that much of a poweruser anymore. I never rooted my Desire but still used it regularly with Android IRC, MSN Talk, Rockplayer and stuff like that. So I bought an iPhone 4 just because of it's simplicity and that I don't demand much from my phone. And yes, every Android phone with Froyo is better than the iPhone 4.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
DZ weighs a tonne, and the keyboard is a bit dodgy - DHD gets my vote