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[Defy General] scrannel:
One reason I ask is because I have terrible cell service and use wifi calling not only for calls but for sending text, which works fine now and would hate to update and discover I can't do this anymore.

OK DID IT... all seems to work as before. Somethings seem faster, sure I'll see a few new things as I go along.
[Defy General] gplock:
I just signed up. I didnt get ota update?

Sent from my Defy with XDA App
[Defy General] scrannel:
I didn't sign up for anything... or do you just have to be a member of that forum? Otherwise, I presume they're rolling them out in batches?
[Defy General] slipknotfn:
Just downloaded it. Freed up about 70mb of RAM for me. Seems to be running smoother too. Booted twice which I was not prepared for. Still hoping for an official FroYo. After seeing the leaked release in the dev forum, I think it is a matter of time. If Samsung can release one for the Vibrant..... Yeah. But for now I can learn this like I learned my Win Mo.

EDIT: It appears that after this update I have lost root on my stock ROM. I cannot regain root through super1click nor z4root. Both fail to initialize. Super1 just locks up and z4 force closes. Not sure what could be the culprit. Did a factory data reset and am attempting to reinstall all apps including root.:mad:

EDIT: So yes it appears that indeed this has nullified my root access. Trying right now again with z4root and it is stuck in the attempting to apply root screen. Looks like Moto does not want their stuff messed with. Shoulda known better. Any ideas? I am really, really new to Android so I have been trying to avoid too much. Now that it force closed it looks like it will not let it do anything AND uninstalled it from my device. Will not let me install it again either. How nice. Glad I spent $ to be told what I can and can't do with my phone. :mad: :mad:
[Defy General] Telyx:
I have tried 3 times now to install this update, twice with the phone still rooted and once after unrooting and rebooting. Each time, I see the little Android guy next to an open box with a progress bar, which goes to about 1/3, then I get the triangle with ! inside next to the little Android guy. That isn't supposed to happen, right?

Judging by more recent posts about this update, it's just as well I can't install it.
[Defy General] Monkief_lingpu:
10 characters!
[Defy General] Telyx:
I deleted the music downloading apps, but FamilyRoom is still there. And I'm finding that a factory reset doesn't restore all that junk, so I still can't install the update. Poop.
[Defy General] wtfallen:
I'm having the same issue.

I've backed up all the bloatware onto another SD I removed with titanium, so I hope once putting those back on and unrooting will fix it.
[Defy General] djdubbled:
I'm new to rooting and have the same problem, can't un-root, can't root after update. superoneclick stops at "reading OS version properties" when trying to root. Then says "super user not installed" when trying to un-root.

The worst part is the update reinstalled all that crap bloatware which is the reason I rooted in the first place. My bad for not un-rooting BEFORE I updated.
[Defy General] ABC_Universal:
I have this reading os version... problem as well. But an older version worked http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=913709
[Defy General] bobbyphoenix:
Yes the 2.51 works well. It took me 30 seconds with that one for me.
[Defy General] nhuloan:
same here- anyone here knows how to fix this issue?
[Defy General] Telyx:
I finally got it figured out. My problem was that I deleted some "bloatware" files that, for some reason, are essential to have in order for the update to run. Assuming you did the same thing:

If you haven't already, use Z4Root to root your phone and then install the recovery app found in post 83 here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=875233&page=9 . Run that recovery app in Recovery Boot mode, select Backup, and let it create a nandroid backup of your phone. That backup will end up in /goapkrev/backup on your SD card.

You'll need to download the ROM from post #39 on this page: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=880813&page=4 Unrar it, then copy the folder containing 4 files into /goapkrev/backup on your card.

Run Recovery again, but this time select Backup & Restore - Advanced Restore. Select the folder you just copied to your card (2010-12-31.15.54.38), then select Restore System and let it run. That will leave your apps and data untouched. After the restore, select the option to reboot the phone.

Download and install the update, then reboot.

After rebooting, you can re-root using SuperOneClick found here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=913709 Don't forget to enable USB debugging first.

So far, so good :)
[Defy General] Aksen:
Telyx, thanks for the step-by-step. I'm working my way through it now.

I wonder if it'd be easier to just copy all the bloat *.apk's to the original directory?
[Defy General] tjdmobile:
So how about this - is there a known way to REJECT this update? I really need my root, because I deleted the visual voicemail app to allow me to use my AT&T sim without a billion txt messages being sent by that app.

Is there an auto updater apk or something I can kill? This update is bugging me every hour to download it, then install it.
[Defy General] cheaplikeafox:
yeah I don't know how to turn off the reminder either...someone in the motorola forums said that eventually it will make you download it or install it...unless you don't have a data connection
[Defy General] nanek921:
Why would you want to reject the update? Rooting the update isa simple process.
[Defy General] naenee:
Some people prefer to only update if they actually need the update, i.e. if they need a feature provided by it or if the update contains a guaranteed fix for a problem they are experiencing with their current setup.
[Defy General] tjdmobile:
In my opinion, if it aint broke, don't force me to fix it.

Thanks to Telyx, I am updated, and re-rooted. I hope to eventually root out the system component responsible for looking for updates and kill it. I don't like being forced into an update that could gimp my setup. Oh well, working and happy again.

T
[Defy General] naenee:
Isn't it Fota.apk that takes care of Over The Air updates? (I assume F stands for Firmware). It's in /system/app.
[Defy General] tjdmobile:
Sounds like a good candidate to me! I will rename it later and see if that breaks anything.
[Defy General] bobdigby:
Bring on Q2 in UK
[Defy General] watt9493:
I too am being pestered to update. And i dont have the crapware nesecarry to do it. Has anybody found a way to disable the nagging update every hour thing?
[Defy General] cheena:
Is there a way to get this update not OTA? I have a US Defy, but I'm not on T-Mo. I'd like to try it, because the flash does not seem to sync with the camera many times, and this is supposed to improve it. Thanks.
[Defy General] luisd77:
Still can't update..

I don't mind loosing root, but I would like the battery life improvements; however, I'm unable to install the update. I have downloaded it 4 times, run the install, the bar gets to about a 3rd of the way and then it stops. I touch the bottom right corner to unhide the prompts and it says the update failed to install. Is there a place where to logs are saved?

Also, where is the update saved after it's been downloaded? Having to download every time I try to install is getting kinda aggravating.
[Defy General] Samearlthomas:
hey telyx thanks so much for the guide. i just got a quick question. when i run recovery again and select the file (2010-12-31.15.54.38) and select restore system. i get a "MD5 mismatch" do you know how to fix that. or what the problem may be? thanks so much!
[Defy General] Telyx:
Samearlthomas, I don't know what's causing that mismatch... when I did mine, it worked with no problem at all.

I wonder what would happen if you try restoring the whole thing (system and data) from 2010-12-31.15.54.38, then run recovery again and restore the data from your own nandroid backup...
[Defy General] Telyx:
cheena and luisd77, yesterday afternoon when the update got pushed to my phone, I put off installing it and searched all over the internal folders looking for a large file that might be the update but couldn't find it. I'd have loved to post it.

luisd77, did you see my post on the previous page? I had the same problem, but after restoring the system files from a "virgin" Defy nandroid backup, I was able to install the update.
[Defy General] watt9493:
For those wanting to know how to freeze the OTA update nag. I bought bloat freezer from the market and its worked fine all day. :)
[Defy General] luisd77:
Telyx, I've been messing with my phone since I got it. I installed the Chinese Froyo, the Blurless European 2.1, then the GB one and last, about two days ago, I went back to the backup I had made of the original 3 days after I got the phone... no cigar. I'm downloading the upgrade again to post the error messages.
[Defy General] heygrl:
I had to do a factory reset in order for the "special" older version of Super One Click to work.
[Defy General] Samearlthomas:
hey telyx. i was trying to put it on my card then transfer it to that file. instead i just used the internet portal to manage my files and put it straight in the file! and it worked. i just wanna say thank you so much you are the best! thanks to you and your easy step by step guide i was able to get the update. and re root again. thanks again! a ton!
[Defy General] kll9000:
Works Great!

Thanks Telyx for the help! I had the same issue as Samearlthomas where I got the mismatch error. I figured out that when you extract the RAR it puts the 4 files you need into a folder called "2010-12-31.15.54.38" and puts that folder inside a folder called "2010-12-31.15.54.38" and I copied the main folder into the backup folder on my SD card. It came back with the mismatch error so i just had to cut the 4 files out of the second folder called "2010-12-31.15.54.38" and paste into the first folder. (that was super confusing trying to write that sorry)
[Defy General] myorks1127:
When I tried to DL the stock rom from post 39 it installed some adware on my computer and was far from what it said it was anyone else have this problem?
[Defy General] Grooveoriented:
Hey - long time reader, first time poster here. Just followed everything here, but I'm still getting an error when I try to update. I rooted my Defy a while ago, removed some bloatware and since I have tried the UK stock ROM with the USA3gFix. Restored with the stock T-Mobile .imgs and am getting:

assert failed: apply_patch_check("MTD:boot:83886 etc etc")

E:Error in /cache/Blur_Version.3.blablabla...

Status 7

I wiped cache before and after, tried restoring all the .img files (cache, data, boot, system, etc.)

What do I suck at?
[Defy General] chaihg:
Just dropped in to say that it has been found that update does not happen when on rooted devices. I read in number of forums and needed to share that with all of you. You should get your update just fine if you can flash the original or native sbf and then check for update.

cheers
[Defy General] Telyx:
Those who have flashed different ROMs to your phones--that could be the root (pun not intended but I'll use it anyway) of your problem. I don't know Android well enough to know if remnants of ROMs can get "left behind" when you flash another ROM; that can happen in Windows Mobile and there is a way to completely clear the WM ROM space before reflashing ("Task 29" or something like that). Even if you go back to the T-Mo US ROM, maybe there is some little scrap of foreign matter in there that keeps the update from installing. That's just my guess.

Regarding the folder thing--yeah, it's kind of confusing when the folder you want to put on your SD card has an identical name to the folder it's contained in... recovery needs to look into the folder with a nandroid backup's name and find files, not another folder. Programs that create zip and rar files don't seem to grasp that. :)

For those who report success-- you're welcome but keep in mind that all I did was get the links together in one post. Others wrote the programs, posted the ROM, etc., and they deserve the thanks. They gave me the ability to update my phone too.
[Defy General] Telyx:
The stock ROM mentioned in my post is of a rooted T-Mobile US Defy. I didn't unroot prior to downloading and installing the update. (The update does unroot the phone, though.)
[Defy General] felipegeek:
I successfully installed the update my wife's Defy and mine as well. Both were rooted with z4root, hers was all stock otherwise, mine had Blockbuster, and all of the genre specific music apps - truecountry, revolver, etc removed (used 'System App Remover'). I backed up the data and apk files on both phones with 'MyBackup Root'. I also downloaded the TMO US ROM posted earlier in the thread but it turned out that I did not need it.

I updated my wife's Defy first - unrooted the phone first with z4 and power cycled the phone, then installed the update after it settled down after boot up. The camera, Wifi, etc seem to be working fine. The Blur interface was definitely quicker to respond. My wife reported that the battery held up better today. On my Defy, I followed the same procedure and it updated properly as well. The update reinstalled the Blockbuster and music genre apps as well. I also noticed better response from the Blur interface and better touch sensitivity through the matte Tmobile brand screen protector I have on it.

Super1Click 2.51 as referenced by others also worked to root both Defys again with no difficulty. (Run from Win 7 x64)

I am very happy that I did not have to resort to installing a clean ROM. It's possible that removing other system apps could cause the update installation problems reported in this thread but in my case it worked out fine.

Thanks to all the contributors in this and other related threads. The information was very useful in preparing for and succeeding with this update.

-felipe
[Defy General] myorks1127:
I currently have made a backup with system recovery app and have un-rooted as well as unfroze all apps that I froze up with bloat freezer. I have tried to install the update like five times and it does not work even after doing a factory restore as I did last night!!!! I tried getting the stock rom from earlier in this thread and that download is just fake adware. Anyone know what I should do next?
[Defy General] luisd77:
I still can't install. Here's what I get:

Verifying current system...

essert failed: apply_patch_check("MTD:boot:8388608:.....)

E:Error in /cache/Blur_Version.3.6.190.MB525.T-Mobile.en.US.zip

(Status 7)

Installation aborted.

Any ideas?
[Defy General] nth256:
I'm absolutely new to phone modding, except for installing z4root and removing some bloatware, before the update came from Tmo. So i read up here, wondering why i couldn't get it to install. I downloaded the suggested files, did everything i was supposed to do (or so i thought) and got nowhere.

A key thing to pint out to the newbs (like me) is that you need to install the system recovery app (called "defy_recovery...apk") and then run the program "System Recovery" which is now in your app list, and THEN hit the "Install Recovery System" button.

Oh, and the volume buttons move the highlight in the recovery menu, and the power button confirms your selection.

I'm sure most people figured this out on their own, but again, there are some serious noobs, like me, who need the baby steps pointed out as well.:D

Glad to say, though, that thanks to this thread, i'm running .360 update on my rooted Defy. Now i just have to remove Blockbuster again...

Thank you for all the help and information, guys! You all rock!
[Defy General] Ht2:
I tried and did not work for me.

Is there any other idea to reject the update?
[Defy General] chiboga:
I've just found the way to do this, after a very long hunt:

I used "Uninstaller Pro for Root", and it showed it as Updater (com.motorola.blur.updater), it's actually this "/system/app/BlurUpdater.apk", try to rename it, it disabled "System updates" under Settings for me.
[Defy General] luisd77:
Last try

Guys,

This is what I have done. I installed Defy_Recovery and went back to my very first back up; the one when I first got the phone.

After the recovery process, I erased all data from the screen that comes up holding Vol- and the power button.

I downloaded the update to 360 again, and it fail. I got the same error message as in my last post.

This part of the error : Error in /cache/Blur_Version.3.6.190.MB525.T-Mobile.en.US.zip - should i be looking for the file and making sure it is in this directory?

Also, I keep reading about the update.zip file in the SD card. What is it? I don't have one.

Thanks a lot guys!
[Defy General] cheena:
Finally received the 3.6.360 update

Well, like everyone suggested, I unrooted my phone, but still did not receive the update. I have US Defy but I am NOT on T-Mobile USA network. I checked for new updates several times in the last few days, but nothing happened, it just kept spinning looking for updates. I tried this with WiFi and with 3G. By chance, I shut down the phone with the WiFi turned on. When I turned the phone back on, there was a message on the screen about the software update. It took a few minutes to download, and a few to install, but it went without a hitch! The screens scroll noticeably smoother now, and the camera flash is in sync with the shutter. Also, websites load much faster with the stock browser. Good work, Moto!
[Defy General] Ht2:
Thanks, confirmed. working for me.:)
[Defy General] MarSOnEarth:
Confirmed here too. Thanks.

____

Tapped into XDA app on Moto Defy
[Defy General] robrob777:
WIll this work in terminal/Gscript?

WIll this work in terminal/Gscript?

"

SU

mv /system/app/BlurUpdater.apk /system/app/BlurUpdater2.apk

"

Do I need another line?

I need to send this command to a friend that has the phone, that's why I can't test it.

I'll thank you, thanks.
[Defy General] chiboga:
I’m very new to Android, and definitely no expert, but I think you also need to change permissions and the system folder to rw, so I would try this:

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su

mount -o remount,rw -t ext3 /dev/block/mmsblk1p21 /system

chmod 0777 /system/app

mv /system/app/BlurUpdater.apk /system/app/BlurUpdater.apk.rem

exit

----

Also, I believe it’s better to rename the extension, or add another one, as on the example above, so that the system doesn’t try to execute the new apk. Again I may be wrong here, so please take all of this with a grain of salt.

Anyone else that knows better please correct me if I’m wrong, I may very well be.
[Defy General] robrob777:
Thanks, and...I think I got it, I tested in my phone renaming the Bluethoot.apk.

So probably for the Defy:

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su

chmod 777 /system/app

mv /system/app/BlurUpdater.apk /system/app/BlurUpdater.apk.rem

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[Defy General] ExtraSyn:
okay i think know the problem... when you touch the bottom right of the screen and then wipe data and cache from that screen then try and update.. im also going into the settings and doing a factory reset which can be found by going to settings-privacy-factory reset... i think the recovery misses some stuff maybe idk yet im in the process of trying this fix.. ill report back if it worked but yes i am having the same problem as the person i quoted above... again ill report back in a few...
[Defy General] ExtraSyn:
okay i think know the problem... when you touch the bottom right of the screen and then wipe data and cache from that screen then try and update.. i think the recovery misses some stuff maybe idk yet im in the process of trying this fix.. ill report back if it worked but yes i am having the same problem as the person i quoted above... again ill report back in a few..

Edit: okay i got the same error hmmm im stumped...
[Defy General] luisd77:
Yep, same here. I was looking at the part of the error "MTD:boot:8388608" I'm guessing it has to do with the bootloader "upgrade" i did to boot into the CN Froyo. Now I'm looking for a way to go back to the original. I was thinking MAYBE by using RSDlite to load the UK version of 2.1 I was going to end up with a version of the bootloader similar to the original US firmware - No cigar.
[Defy General] myorks1127:
Hey guys so I just got my warranty replacement Defy after I bricked mine and note this phone came brand new!!!! I guess I got lucky on that not getting a refurb. Also it being manufactured recently it has the new 3.6.360 already installed stock so I dont have to worry about updating and all that crap!!! this was after tmobile said the phone was on backorder and not shipped and it came today haha gotta love it, finally have my android back!!!!! Never rooting again. The update runs super fast and no problems so far...
[Defy General] AndroidKillsDotCom:
go to androidkills.com in a few days!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cmca:
I have been flashing my hd2 for over a year and having lots of fun along the way with a lot of help from the members on this site.

I am a bit confused with the partitioning of the sd card and what ext 1, 2 etc mean.

Could someone point me in the direction of an explaination of what this does and why I need it, I have searched but could not find anything, apologies if it has already been answered.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MattOG:
It's a storage system. Like Fat32, NTFS etc.

as for how, check here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=905841

There are a few threads to check depending on WHY you want the partition.

If it's for clockwork mod (CWM) or app2sd(+). Read the relevant threads.

Hope This Helps.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Moby58:
He meant NTFS not NTSC (which is a video standard)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MattOG:
Well spotted... I'm a dozy bugger.