[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thegh0st:
sweet information & thanks for this! I really like this straight up kind of info and at least knowing this much about how a step works

I have read about people using terminal emulators and looked them up on the market & I know what these are. good to know it isn't recommended. from working on computers I can see why this might be chancy - sorta like flashing a bios update for a motherboard from inside windows - though that process works pretty good now for the most part (company's been doing it quite a while)

thanks so much for this info right here! this is great knowledge to have and answers like this is what I crave. it gives me ideas and reinforces thoughts I have been formulating. you actually made it very clear to. I read this on the unrevoked site but they certainly did not make it as clear as you just did. I didn't get what they were saying for sure. just thank you for this.

getting the root level access below the radio would be awesome and then I would not need to change the ROM or worry about an RUU because I could just use the s-on to set the phone back to normal according to this info.

this is pretty much what I was thinking and seems also to be a reason you could not just flash the unrevoked forever zip to.

so what if I ran the zip from adb shell? or a terminal emulator? or could I run the unrevoked forever zip from adb shell while in the bootloader screen? wonder if that would be a way to manually turn security off.

I have temp root access now and can run root apps so far with no issues.

yeah I do not want clockwork on my phone period - if I do decide to use a custom recovery I only want to put one on there. also I really don't want to "automatically" do anything at this point. I want to know what I do and understand what I do as much as possible

and about what you said - "unless you root the hard way via adb" - that IS what I want to do! lol just point me to a thread! someone else told me it can be done - I asked why - the answer - they told me "i don't know" - ugh! this makes 2 people telling me it can be done. how do people know it can be done if they don't even know how to do it? I am in no way directing this to you r.storm85. just venting since I have read many posts like that. I appreciate all the answers and info you have given me. such a great help! thank you, thank you.

I was pretty sure about this information. thanks for reaffirming it though. after enough digging and figuring out what an RUU is I got that much down.

another reason I am just wanting to root and nothing else. if I keep a stock ROM & get root all I need is to flash the unrevoked s-on and I don't have to worry about an RUU or a custom recovery to remove. see what I am saying?

I will worry about all that stuff if I decide to take the plunge into a custom ROM.

I think you really are unrooted if security is on (as in s-on) even if you have a custom recovery - you are just not "100% stock unrooted". but again I understand what you meant.

I am going to try to get on one of the chat channels soon because it is seeming more and more like I am just going to have to experiment some.

ok so one last time - let me say thank you r.storm85, thank you, thank you. some really great information. now if I can just get some more clear cut answers like yours :D