yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marvin_S:
its not the problem of the apps! Since all apps fail at the same time to update. This is no coincidence, only a restart or waiting will solve this and than all notifications not yet delivered by multiple apps come at once! Now tell me how this is an app poblem,its the phone who is not able to receive the push even on wifi. The apps do deliver, but there is a huge delay even with beez which i checked with fake twiter account.

Every once in a while the phone just fails to receive any data based push notifications! All of them. While i do have wifi and or 3g. On 3g+ it seems to be more stable.

This could be europe related or omnia related. And narrowing this down will help dtermine the issue, since the apps are not the problem. These work fine for the others...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] emigrating:
It is neither Europe or Omnia related as I'm using the 16GB Omnia7 in Europe (slightly north of you) at the moment without fail.

If it really is all apps, I would suggest there is a problem with your data connection - are you able to browse the web properly and without pages having to reload or taking a long time to open? If not, make sure you are indeed within range of, either, 3G/HSDPA or WiFi - if you are, and it works fine on another phone/laptop I would say you have a hardware fault and need to take the device back for a replacement.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rruffman:
Several things to be aware of with live tiles and notifications.

I am a developer of a few apps and offer push notification and live tile updates i have done alot of testing and know the ins and outs of this..

1st there is a such thing of the phone not being able to "open a notification channel" and Hard Reset is the only way to correct this.

2nd it is possable that the app developer side to also be the problem not sending because of their service going down server problems etc.

3rd when your batt. get to be less than 1/4 percent the notification service shuts down on the phone and you will not recieve updates. once the batt is above the 1/4 percent the service will then start working again.

4th sometimes the push service is delayed due to MS.

Hope this helps to better understand.

My Apps

World Weather (Live Tile)

TV Show Alert (uses Push Notification)

To Doos (Comming soon Push, Live Tile)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marvin_S:
issue 1. Hardreset changed nothing though.

yeah ofcourse i test it with good wifi and 3g.

The problem happens every day. Its not reliable at all...

It might be a hardwere problem then, because it just seems like once it drops to 3g or loses wifi and then reconnects loses its ability to receive push thereafter (even when reconnected again)

Ill wait for the update and till a friend of mine receives his omnia and test it out again.

But the delays are ms servers? So i should be able to test it with the emulator and compare the results.

Thanks.

And good to hear your omnia does not suffer. What is your location setting?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rruffman:
Are you saying you cannot recieve a push on 3g?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] v hubris v:
Good insight
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marvin_S:
Yeah and the same on wifi, if i switch it on still nothing. And than all of a sudden 20 minutes later i get a burst of all apps of notifications at the same time.

So fe im sending back and forth between iphone and my phone with both tigertext and textme (also used send to wp7 for testing push) it works for ten minuets after a restart, than the messages keep receiving and being sent from iphone and to iphone, however my phone does not get the toasts. And than after 20 min or so a burst of all these messages of this period all at the same time.

Yes on 3g, and yes on wifi as well... So not a provider issue guess not bc of wifi. Seems not an os problem since the others dont have it as i hear from you guys.

Im a developer for wp7 myself so I know its not the app, otherwisse the patern would have been different.

THanks for the input, i tried all diffrent app and data settings, no luck so far
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] v hubris v:
Take it in for repiar or replacement
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marvin_S:
Yeah i guess... Will the reapir guys check that stuff? I dont have any experience with repairs. Ill wait for the update and than ill make a backup and send it in i think.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rruffman:
If you would like for me to do some testing with you dl my weather app trial vers. and once installed and set up your city and live tile city pm me with the city and i will send you some toast and live tiles during the time you are not recieving to see if infact its not related to the apps you have. the weather app is world weather in the news an weather section.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marvin_S:
Thanks this will be helpfull! My city is delft, netherlands. Which is pretty safe to send a whole bunch of test toasts to since wp7 is not yet in our language its not well known yet.

How do i contact you? Can i send you a textme message (haha if it wont get delayed) or pm? Or a fixed time maybe? That will be nice idk if that is possible and then run a test for 3 days, twice a day? Then ill report the time i get the messages. If its after dinner time my time than im sure i wont miss the messages.

Thanks a lot man! This will help me out.

I did notice that i sometimes have to refresh the page while browsing since it is stalling on 3g and stops loading. It might be a provider issue, since we had pretty big problems a year ago with 3g but i heard they fixed it and have not heard issues from iphone friends on the same network. Next week a friend will get the same phone same network so we can compare. If it does not work without delays on both phones its really going to be nasty.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rruffman:
have you installed the world weather app? you can email me when you are ready to test worldweather@celltracsoftware.com
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marvin_S:
yes, but the live tile does not work. Nor is there any city in my country so i put it to Amsterdam, NY :( instead of Amsterdam, Netherlands.

Or can you pick a city and ill default it to that city?

The live tile does not work for this city anyway, while its up there for 1,5 day now. Still showing the default picture.

It really is annoying, I used the iphone with my sim card and its not a problem. I could get push on just 3g. With my phone I only receive push on 3g+, not on wifi not on nothing. Really really annoying... I just wait until the update and see if my friend will have the same problem and than send it in.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rruffman:
cities in the Netherlands are availavble i see them in my database "Groningen" in the search it will show "UK" for any country outside of the "US" yours is Amsterdam "UK" or Delft "UK" which both are available there is a few other things you need to do after adding your city.

1 make sure live tile is enabled and a update schedule is selected

2 on main screen tap menu then "set as Live tile city" this will register your handset. let me know if this has been done.

last question have you ever did a hard rest on your phone? to clear up the channel open problem? also how many push and live tiles do you have registered? maybe try to hard reset and only register like maybe our weather app for a few days to see if maybe its related to a certian app. everyone who reset their phone and got their hanset registered seems to hve never had a problem anymore. once again you can email me when you get it done.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marvin_S:
Thanks yeah i'm done... haha i use delft uk now ;) and it seems to be accurate.

Yes I did a hardreset, it did not change a thing. And I'm not doing it again. I just withnessed something very strange, my bars were jumping from 0 to 5 to zero to 5 to 3g+ to 3g to 0, very strange. I tried my simcard in the iphone and it seems to work perfectly. I think Ill ask if i can use that iphone for a while and send my phone back if your tests report the same results.

Unofrtunately i need all my settings now and cant perform a hardreset. So we are still not singeling the one app problem out. However I started with installing just one app and it showed the same behaviour.

And it still shows your default picture.... no live tile although im registered and soft resetted the phone as well...

Im really thinking its my device. Since im running the latest firmware, and my simcard has no problem on the iphone with receiving data. Mobile internet does work, but push barely. Other have not really reported these problems... so its not an omnia problem or an os problem i guess than.

I love my wp7 so i dont want to send it in haha.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marvin_S:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=855775 seems like im having the exact same problem
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rruffman:
it will take the default time to get the first live tile update I do see that we sent you a update to your tile 46 minutes ago and i just sent you a toast notification about 5 minutes ago..
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marvin_S:
I understand. I fell asleep. Could you sent one at around 3 oclock my time which is gmt time of 2 oclock.

i do have the live tile now indeed
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rruffman:
are you speaking of 2 am or pm
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marvin_S:
14:00 so in roughly an hour

than ill report the time, i receive it. Or maybe you can send it now. Thats fine 2

thanks a lot
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] emigrating:
I do wonder if this isn't carrier dependant after all. I know some people had weird issues with their Omnia 7's here. They tried a different network and all was fine. In the end I think the solution was to get a new SIM card from the carrier. Have no idea what difference that really makes, but could be worth a try (unless of course you got a new card with your phone).
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marvin_S:
Yeah I'm having second thoughts about it as well. Since the signal is jumping like crazy. And a friend with a blackberry on the same carrier has problems with his mobile internet and notifications of email comming late. I think the 3g is overloaded again... and it causes a trafficjam just like last year... they said it was solved (its T-mobile btw). I tried my sim in an iphone and probably the iphone gets trough first, since they were exclusive carriers of the iphone here, idk if thats possible but it seems like it.

I had a new sim card with my phone.

Unfortunately I can not switch carriers since i have a contract for a year... I will try with a diffrent sim if i can find somebody elses sim (of a diffrent carrier) to use.

On the good side, its not wp7 related than which is nice. Still not sure if my device is crappy or if its only my carries since i have it for 1,5 months now and it never worked the way its supposed to work.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neoxphuse:
Hey guys I'm getting the same issue. It says push notification error: unable to open channel.

Very annoying. Has anybody be able to pinpoint this?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marvin_S:
Does it say this all the time? Or do your notifications just stop working all of a sudden and than report this?

Does a soft reset temporarely fix this problem? If so... we are in the same boat without a direction yet.

It might be that the t-mobile 3g network here is overcrowded again. But it happens to me also on wifi (which is strange and a contradiction). It happens with multiple apps and live tiles stop updating, so not a particular app problem... I tried today with 3g switched of... this seems to work a bit more reliable however after a few hours the same problems started to kick in.

Im gonna borrow my dad iphone for this week (will be a step back in userfriendlieness :) ) to see if this has the same problem on 3g with the same apps. Ill report, and hope we can narrow this down to an MS server problem (seems highly unlikely) or a device problem (seems highly unlikely too since I do get the toasts, just very very randomly delayed). Its annoying to get a toast in the middle of the night from during the day :D
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jim Coleman:
I just wanted to add into the mix that I was getting awful problems with Beezz, ITN News and Tile Note especially, being unable to update live tiles and throwing up notification registration issues.

Last night I did a hard reset and reinstalled everything. Now all my live tile issues have gone away and everything is sweet.

So yes, a hard reset is a perfectly valid fix for live tile problems. Just remember to note down all the apps and games you had installed, and make sure you don't have any data on your phone which isn't synced to the cloud.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sayonical:
I am going to attempt this this evening. I hope it works cause my htc hub stoppede updating, eezz never work nor do I get notifications from Alphajax, Spell it or Weather bug.

The live tile works for the weather channel, flicr and urban dictionary but fairly slowly and I notice they update around the same time...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marvin_S:
I found why. It has something to do with the carrier cutting of thr connection if your not actively using 3g. Then wp7 push gets confused and instead of push turns into hourly poll and tries to reconnect. This is why there is a delay and updates all the stuff at the same time. A restart will reregister your channels and also establishes 3g connection with the carrier.

This was written at create.msdn.com forums and they said the ms push team was talking to carriers and is trying to fix the way wp7 handles the connections. You can remove the simcard and use wifi only and push will remain working! So its a flaw in the connection management. Hopefully next update will fix it. Since for me its terrible, my carrier is easily overloaded on 3g and cuts off a lot it seems (tmobile NL) :(
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sayonical:
So I did the hard reset this morning and I can confirm everything works! Beezz live tile updates, I get push notifications from Alphajax and Spell it! I am so happy finally using this phone to its full potential!

:D
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kwill:
Yeah, I've been toying with the idea of a hard reset as the MagikMail app I was using for Youmail has all of sudden stopped sending me alerts. But, then I read this http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...t-windows-phone-update-and-how-to-get-it.aspx and now I'm waiting until I hopefully receive this as I don't really feel like setting everything back up.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dgaust:
It comes down to a mix of how the carriers handle the push service, as well as how applications deal with the response codes.

If a phone is uncontactable, the push service needs to dial back the sending of notifications to one per hour. If they don't do this, Microsoft might block the channel from receiving notifications - a hard reset will fix this as a new channel is created for your phone.

So it's possible that one of your applications doesn't honour this, and it causes your channel to be blocked if you're out of range for a reasonable period of time.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmerrey:
I can only speak from my personal experience, but I wouldn't do a hard reset and expect all the live tiles to start permanently working again when you reinstall them. I got frustrated about a month ago and did a hard reset. When I reinstalled my apps, some of the live tiles started working again, but after a day or so the same problem ones became erratic again. Weatherbug went thru a few days of not working, but in the last week or so it works great. The Bing Splash app won't even load anymore, much less with a working live tile. Flixster won't work. SportsScores works flawlessly. Etc Etc Etc. It seems alot of these third party live tiles are erratic at best.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marvin_S:
hardreset indeed is a bs advice, on my carrier it unfortunately is a problem with not just one app but all apps and they all just go into hourly instead of push, all channels blocked etc. A softreset also frees the channels and fixes it until the 3g gets cutoff by tmobile and were f----d again. On just wifi without a sim card it works just fine. Note here in holland the population is dense and the 3g signal is strong pretty much everywhere i am. So probably wp7 does not try to reconnect once tmobile cuts of my 3g connection if i send or receive no data. Which sucks so i have to switch carriers if there is no way around this.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svvv:
Guys i found a way to fix this issue...

Just delete the following registry keys, reboot the mobile...

HKLM/Software/Microsoft/PushClient/EndPoints/

Delete all the registry keys inside the key EndPoints...

It worked for me.....
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marvin_S:
what does it fix? my push will go into polling mode because I will lose connection, I believe its an issue with my carrier (Tmobile NL, constantly cuts of non active 3g data connection) and the only way to get push working properly is to switch to a different carrier :( both blackberry and wp7 suffer from the same issues, first party apps keep going but 3rd party apps start to go into a poll mode of approx 20/30 minutes and all messages are stacked and delivered at once :(. However Iphone with the same sim-card does not suffer from this problem oddly enough... ive heard more people having problems with TMobile NL with push notifications on wp7. The only thing which will work for me is setting the polling interval to 1 minute but I dont think there is a way to set this in the registry.

The windows support team said they did not have any news on this and its not changed in nodo.... so ill just have to deal another half year without working push (not too bad, it would have been nice)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PTK8ofBH:
Had someone else (independent of XDA) come across the same method with the same success. Can anyone else confirm? I'm speculative to just delete whole directories from my registry..
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t_bone77:
Has anyone the original 1.35.531.3 Update.zip? I want to test something.

Thankyou,

t_bone
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SefEXE:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=747002

ChiefzReloaded posted this not too long ago.
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t_bone77:
Thanks, i can't find a 1.35.531.3 Update.

I have seen that CR build a new ROM with the unreleased froyo @ http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=928250 and i want to

build my one. But when i take a look @ the 2.13 Update File i think the Update is for a 1.35.531.3 Build....

greatings

t_bone
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SefEXE:
Ah, whoops. I didn't read it fully, my mistake.
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t_bone77:
you are welcome.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] HappyKhicken:
I have a CDMA Rhodium (Sprint version) that is unlocked so I can use it on AT&T. I want to put Android on it, however when I have tried in the past it wouldn't work because the GSM version wouldn't work on my phone and the CDMA version can't use the GSM signal. Is there anyway to use Android on my phone in this situation? Thanks in advance!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
force_cdma=0 in your startup.txt, should work.

You can't run both radios at the same time, but GSM-only should work for you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] slickdaddy96:
I thought simply unlocking the phone didn't help in getting American GSM signals, because the phone is set up to only look for Worldwide GSM frequencies which are different from American? It has the capabilities to run American GSM signals, but I thought there needed to be further modification besides just unlocking the phone. I know the actual frequencies have to be flashed to the phone in WM, but I was unsure on whether these frequencies are built into the XDAndroid build?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Frequency support is in the radio itself - you can't flash the capability. If what you say is true, then he may not get 3G service, but he'll at least be able to make/receive calls and txts. Internet should work, but be painfully slow.

I'm not sure what frequencies the RHOD supports, but AFAIK it's a lot - Sprint and Verizon sell the TP2 as a 'world phone' - and usually phones branded with that moniker have a wide range of frequency support - again, built into the radio. Has nothing to do with the software running on the phone. If the frequency is supported in WinMo, it'll be supported in Android.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] slickdaddy96:
I agree with you that it is built into the radio. What I was saying is that simply unlocking the phone in Windows Mobile does not "make active" the American frequencies because the programming is such that Sprint and Verizon make sure the software explicitly either blocks or makes sure it can not use those frequencies.

It could be that XDandroid does not have those limitations in the builds and can use whatever frequency you want to. I don't know how much XDandroid depends on the settings etc... of windows mobile to run though. It could be you might have to get rid of that issue in WM before Android will properly be able to use AT&T frequencies. I don't know which is true, because I am not planning to try to use AT&T on my phone, thus I don't care to explore it! :p I was just bringing up that possibility just in case the guy puts force_cdma=0 and it still doesn't work for him.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
No worries. If that's the case, I'd like to know if it works in WinMo. Because if it works in WinMo and not Android, then we're missing something in Android. AFAIK we're not missing anything that's at the core like that, but who knows.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] AkumaX:
i always thought you had to unlock (http://rhodium.htc-unlocks.com/) AND flash a custom rom for it to work on gsm att/t-mo usa. i guess if it works in winmo, theoretically it should work in android w/ force_cdma = 0. naturally you'd only get 2G data, but ehhhhhhh..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] HappyKhicken:
I'm assuming when you say to use the force_CDMA=0 in my startup.txt file, you mean for the CDMA version of Android, correct? Or should I use the GSM version?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
That's the beauty - there isn't a different CDMA/GSM version - every build supports both, simply by changing that force_cdma value in the startup.txt...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] demonlordoftheround:
In order to operate on the domestic gsm network, you will need to Security Unlock, then flash a patched radio, then use a T-Mobile or AT&T SIM card. You will only have Edge data and not 3G.
[Fascinate General] Shakes The AssClown:
Hey all,

I have downloaded the Windows 7 64 bit drivers for my Fascinate. Installed them...but when i go to mount my SD card I can see it in Windows Explorer but it says CD drive F: Verizon Mobile. I cannot see anything on my SD card at all. How can I get this mounted. I am rooted and I have USB debugging on. Any other ideas on how to get this to work.
[Fascinate General] Jmjohnson1717:
Pull down the notification bar at the top of the phone. Press mount sd card. Your problem mabe deeper than this but I just thought best to start simple. If u still can't get it we need more info like is it DI01,DJ05, or DL09
[Fascinate General] Shakes The AssClown:
No, I cannot mount that way. I am on dl09. Very frustrating.