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[LG Optimus 2x] gizz68erz:
What do you think?

Motorola: more RAM, higher resolution display, dock functionality, locked bootloader?
[LG Optimus 2x] xo4ox:
locked bootloader.... that kills it for me
[LG Optimus 2x] vapotrini:
If the bootloader isn't locked on the Atrix, then I'm going with that without hesitation.

You forgot to mention, bigger battery on Atrix as well.
[LG Optimus 2x] RADLOUNI:
locked bootloader

What do you mean by a "locked bootloader" ???

does it have to do with the ability to flash non official ROMs on the phone ???
[LG Optimus 2x] martino2k6:
Optimus 2x has a 2MP front camera, 8MP rear camera... a big plus compared to the Atrix. With the higher resolution display you won't see much difference unless you look at your phone like you would at a letter in a dark room, more RAM is not that helpful as 512MB is more than enough for an Android device (heck, it's even enough for netbooks and Win XP).

I'd say the only proper advantage is the bigger battery which will definitely make a big difference in day-to-day use.
[LG Optimus 2x] PuerkitoBio:
Atrix. Locked bootloader is only speculation, at the moment. And megapixels is not the be all, end all criteria on picture quality.
[LG Optimus 2x] EleCtrOx666:
+1, but it's not sure about locked bootloader, we are not sure until we see it on the phone, remember what Motorola said:

"“We are working closely with our partners to offer a bootloader solution that will enable developers to use our devices as a development platform while still protecting our users’ interests. More detailed information will follow as we get closer to availability.”
[LG Optimus 2x] t3alc:
Even if you can change by your self the 2X has the advantage to come with two loaders so you choose the LG homescreen or Vanilla.
[LG Optimus 2x] Polluxus:
Source? Would be great though.
[LG Optimus 2x] PuerkitoBio:
Agreed. I'd even say Awesome. I may be jealous, if that's the case.
[LG Optimus 2x] vapotrini:
My entire problem with the 2X has to do with it's screen. Why did they opt for an ordinary LCD screen on this phone? For me it may be too hard to go back to a regular screen after owning a samoled.

What really puzzles me is the fact that LG are releasing another phone along with the 2X that supposedly has a much better screen. I believe it's called the LG optimus black iirc. Why not give your highest end product the best screen? Bad decision if you ask me.
[LG Optimus 2x] t3alc:
This is from Norwegian amobile http://www.amobil.no/artikler/lg_optimus_2x/80296

Translated with google you can fins this in the text:

"Menu-wise, Optimus 2X quite remote from pure Android menus. LG has made some graphical modifications that resemble the manufacturer's S-Class menus or Samsung Touch Wiz. One should however be able to choose clean Android menus if you wish."
[LG Optimus 2x] t3alc:
It's not an all ordinary LCD, it's an IPS display :)
[LG Optimus 2x] Polluxus:
Although I agree SAMOLED is great I wouldn't make such a big issue out of this. You probably only notice the difference in side-by-side comparisons and not in everyday use. Plus LCD is sharper and better in bright sunlight. Oh and it's an IPS LCD (like the iphone and ipad) so good colors and viewing angles.
[LG Optimus 2x] gizz68erz:
Atrix now listed on amazon.com for 600 US-Dollar (= 437,062937 Euro) that would be a great price for europe...but i don't think we'll get it that cheap....

maybe i wanna get an atrix if it appears for the same price as the lg in europe and with unlocked bootloader...(cuz of higer res display, dock functionality, more battery power, bio sensor on back, 1gb ram)
[LG Optimus 2x] Drdroidlove:
get the l 2x, it will be easy to root.
[LG Optimus 2x] Mehrsau:
@gizz68erz

Can't remember where I found it. It was on one of the German forums out there but Motorola officially said that they will lock the bootloader to make sure their gadgets like the display dock will work in a proper way.

I will definitely go on the L2X.
[LG Optimus 2x] zorxd:
I bet you won't even be able to tell the difference between a 8MP and a 5MP picture. Don't forget that you will look at it on your 2MP HDTV or computer monitor. The problem is that the sensor is way too small to benefit from 8MP. MP is the last thing that we should care about a camera nowadays.

1GB RAM can make a big difference however. Especially since android phones tend to loose some memory for the GPU or something else. There is only about 300MB user accessible on the Galaxy S. I am sure that you would prefer a netbook with 1GB over 512 MB too. I think that this is even more important than CPU MHz.

The higher resolution would also have make a huge difference (especially when browsing web pages), but unfortunately I read the Atrix uses a Pentitle matrix which kills effective resolution. We will have to see which one is brighter and have the best contrast before making any judgment on the screen anyways.
[LG Optimus 2x] wondercoolguy:
I was really excited about the X2 but the more and more I read about the Atrix the more it seems like its the better phone. Even with the Locked Bootloaded and ATT usually puts and end to non market apps. This Atrix is a beast I use my phone for business so the battery is awesome. I just dont want to pay att higher prices, they are stupid expensive compared to TMO
[LG Optimus 2x] w1nter456:
2x have 1.3MP front camera only.

The most interesting me was the atrix have fingerprint and upgradeable to 1080p capture : )
[LG Optimus 2x] maedox:
The way it's written (I'm native norwegian) they aren't sure, they assume you can change it. But, one should at least be able to install 3rd party launchers just fine. The LG changes in the launcher (from what I have seen) are subtle and seem to be well thought through so we'll see. I'm probably gonna put LauncherPro on it anyway.
[LG Optimus 2x] yyhoney:
O2x has a 9-axis gyroscope.

As far as i know, Atrix doesn't have it. Right?
[LG Optimus 2x] altemirx:
O2X has 3-axys gyroscope! Where you can find a 9-axys at our 3D-space?
[LG Optimus 2x] xilw3r:
hahaha ownd ! :D
[LG Optimus 2x] pesho00:
Pointless discussion for me, as both phones are NOT available (at least in EU).

On paper Atrix looks better (higher resolution screen, bigger battery, memory...), but in reality... there might be some other things to consider. We have a saing "To touch and to see with my Own eyes"

And on top of it Seems LG will be available sooner than Atrix, price is already better than Nexus S (at least in expansys preorder)

I will wait and see, till then Desire will do the job;)
[LG Optimus 2x] PuerkitoBio:
Don't want to start an argument on this, as I'd prefer stock Android to anything, but at least Motoblur seems stable. Read this for LG's "Android enhancement"... (the "Software" section. you may also watch the first video)

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/07/lg-optimus-2x-review/
[LG Optimus 2x] martino2k6:
Sorry, my mistake.
[LG Optimus 2x] pesho00:
Gui's, what about missing status LED in LG Optimus 2x???

Isn't it Very strange? How can You find out you have missed call or SMS???
[LG Optimus 2x] svengalis:
I don't trust the engadget review at all. I have seen no other review complain about UI lag like they have. Plus they are using Advanced Task Killer, with 2.2 it's known to slow the OS down.
[LG Optimus 2x] svengalis:
Um... look at the screen?
[LG Optimus 2x] maedox:
It's still odd that some manufacturers just drop it completely. It would not break the design and is a great feature.
[LG Optimus 2x] BlueScreenJunky:
I don't know how the 2X works, but on my Nexus One it definitely doesn't work : The screen stays black untill I touch the power button, so when the phone is lying on a table there's really no way I could know if I have a message without the LED :p
[LG Optimus 2x] krkeegan:
Agree the LED is a nice feature. The cost is so low that it baffles me that some phones lack one.

You can check out the application NoLED. It works on some AMOLED screens, but it wouldn't work very well on the Optimus 2X.

Anandtech has a really really good in depth review of the Optimus 2X today. I highly recommend reading it if you want a decent review.

Much better than that crap posted by Engadget that counts a dual core as a negative.
[LG Optimus 2x] yyhoney:
woops you're right.

LY530AL (single-axis gyro), LPR530AL (dual-axis gyro), ADXL345 (triple-axis accelerometer), and HMC5843 (triple-axis magnetometer)
[LG Optimus 2x] TriforceKommando:
Motorola <<<<< All other because of the locked bootloaders..
[LG Optimus 2x] epdm2be:
It's NOT an ordinary LCD screen. It's the same Retina display as the iPhone 4. Only 800x480 instead 960x640. LG makes the displays for Apple in case you don't know.
[LG Optimus 2x] svengalis:
Having a lower resolution can also increase overall performance and make some of the games run better.

Just look at anandtech's latest preview of the Atrix.
[LG Optimus 2x] drrogern:
OT: Might be nice to know that PaulOBrian (Modaco) said on twitter that he's probably buing the LG as hes next phone.
[LG Optimus 2x] jay_zhead:
Things just became more complicated... :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaHSIpYNnlQ
[LG Optimus 2x] Kendoji:
Ooooh now that's the kind of news I've been waiting for. :)
[LG Optimus 2x] hermeticist:
I could care less about the docking on atrix. All I care about is whether the boot loader can be cracked. I don't plan on using the linux os anyway. I already have laptops and computers.

I just want a kickass phone that I can throw cyanogen mod on. I love my nexus one, but a modifiable atrix that I can get got free after selling the nexus would be better.
[LG Optimus 2x] stefh:
Waiting which phone can be rooted easily. First I prefered the Atrix, but I even read (I believe on engadget) that not only the bootloader will be locked, but you even won't be able to install APK's manually. But I don't know if that can be fixed easily. Atrix seems to do only 720p over HDMI, where Optimus does full 1080p. For the Optimus: In doubt because of the RAM, the bad speaker performance and the bad stereo crosstalk effect when using a headphone. Maybe someone who owns the phone already can tell us if the final retail version has this fixed?
[LG Optimus 2x] Boomer Dog16:
The ram is a non issue for me because the atrix needs it to use the docks in that enviroment. wont inprove phone funtionablity. Isp lcd > pentle, cant stand the screen door effect. True hdmi mirroring, gyroscope, an the tap touch gestures on the Lg2x are added toys i could enjoy. Both phones are the biggest beasts out there.
[LG Optimus 2x] SN4K3B1T3:
the Atrix was confirmed on the Atrix Forum that it has a locked and encrypted bootloader...deal breaker and a half im going with the DHD!
[LG Optimus 2x] shoemeistah:
I know the 2x is available in Europe but the Atrix isn't?...
[LG Optimus 2x] Mehrsau:
the 2x isn't available in Europe yet.
[LG Optimus 2x] shoemeistah:
Sorry, let me rephrase that; will the atrix be available in Europe? Cause in Holland there's no 4g.
[LG Optimus 2x] Mehrsau:
Well, I life in Germany but I can't imagine that the Nederlands doesn't have 4G. It's what we call HSDPA+. But anyway, even if you don't have 4G, I bet the Atrix will be available. It's also using 2G and 3G... so why not?
[LG Optimus 2x] kenio8185:
8 megapixels actually usually looks worse than 5 megapixels. The reason from this is because of all the noise the 8mp adds to the picture.

However, from the pics I saw, LG did do a good job in reducing the noise and the pictures do look better then what I saw from the Atrix.
[LG Optimus 2x] shoemeistah:
In the Netherlands they want to upgrade 3G to LTE because that's easier to do.
[LG Optimus 2x] Exador:
Endgadget is owned and operated by Apple fanboys so no surprise there. If the next iphone gets a dual core processor they'll proclaim it the best feature ever and Apple invented it and Steve Jobs is god and the iphone is Jesus. I stopped going to that site a long time ago. it used to be a good site, but their Apple bias is out of control.
[LG Optimus 2x] shoemeistah:
Haha, you're right. Also their youtube review videos make me sick nowadays. They always make an excuse for the iPhone but never on other phones.
[LG Optimus 2x] sinni800:
Wow. Could you clarify? I surf Engadget and I don't like the iPhone, but I've never really "seen" the bias. Maybe it's because I exclude Apple.
[LG Optimus 2x] DrunkFuX666:
Hey people its been a while since anyone posted here... think anyone can give some feedback on the progress of this...??

Im facing the same decision Atrix VS Optimus... what do any users have to say... read a thousand reviews but cant seem to decide... was the bootloader issue ever resolved...??

and is 512 ram really enough for the LG...???
[LG Optimus 2x] Pyrolyser:
I have an O2X and my girlfriend has an Atrix so I consider myself to have sufficient knowledge on the matter to give you some tips. I would personally recommend the Atrix for the following reasons:

1. The difference in RAM does make a difference in terms of responsiveness of the UI. For O2X will have several apps/services running in the background that'll leave around 100MB (sometimes less) of free memory.

2. The qHD display is just better than the standard 800x480 resolution.

3. The Atrix has smaller dimensions and feels more comfortable in the hand. The O2X suffers from a huge bezel, particularly where the capacitive buttons are located.

4. The Atrix offers better battery life (1880 vs 1500mAh). The numbers already offer an estimate which is definitely reflected in real life.

However, I have to point out that the O2X has a better camera sensor that offers much more details compared to the Atrix. Also, the O2X feels more like a premium product, mainly due to it's metal frame, compared to the plastic feeling of the Atrix.
[LG Optimus 2x] MeX_DK:
The 512mb of the LG is not enough. I constantly find mine grinding to a halt trying to free memory.
[LG Optimus 2x] nk7600:
Is that not due to how the O2X manages its memory? i.e. badly?!.
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
Also take into account that the Atrix uses a horrific PenTile matrix screen, it makes a huge (blurry) difference.
[LG Optimus 2x] fallout0:
My old HTC Desire runs circles around the Optimus 2X in general usage. It doesn't lag and is much more responsive running gingerbread. I'd say 512mb is more than enough for a mobile phone. It's probably not enough for LGs ****ty software.
[LG Optimus 2x] Pyrolyser:
I can't say that switching to other custom ROMs such as CM7 (nightlies) of MoDaCo based ones drastically improves the performance but they are still a step ahead of the original ROM. I am waiting for MIUI which is supposed to be officially released this weekend and see how it handles the issue since it is famous for being a very responsive ROM.
[LG Optimus 2x] aegidios2:
for me the main problem with Atrix is the touch screen, only two point at the same time (like desire non-hd, hd2 etc...) where the lg one can do up as 10.
[Nook Color General] dennis-:
how do you access your sd card when the nook is plugged into the pc? like when i plug my phone it the sd card will show up as a portable drive on the pc but with the nook it will not. the nook internal memory shows up but that's it. do i need a driver on the pc for it or is it not possible
[Nook Color General] bugeyed1:
You should see 2 drives. one internal & 1 removable SD card. Try reinserting the SD card, it's kinda tricky.

Cheers,

kev
[Nook Color General] dennis-:
re-inserting it worked after the 3rd time thanks
[Samsung Mesmerize] lightbulb39:
I have a voodoo kernel installed and wanted to know if the either of the voodoo lag fix toggles in the android market would work on a samsung galaxy s showcase. Also, do I have to disable voodoo to update my kernel to get the voodoo sound? And when I do update the kernel I can flash it with clockwork as usual? I just want to make sure of the procedure. Thanks.
[Samsung Mesmerize] skitzo_inc:
I wouldn't use the app, its easy to flash into recovery with quick boot.

You do have to have laggix disabled. If you don't...lets just put that into the bad idea column.
[Samsung Mesmerize] lightbulb39:
Ok i will disable voodoo. Thanks for your help.
[Samsung Mesmerize] lightbulb39:
Ok thanks i will disable lagfix and won't bother with the toggle. Thanks for the help.
[Samsung Mesmerize] dcow90:
It need not be disabled flashing Voodoo to Voodoo.
[Samsung Mesmerize] phidelt82:
Don't confuse them dcow. It's just good practice to disable lagfix. If something goes wrong and you have to do a restore, you want lagfix disabled.
[Samsung Mesmerize] dcow90:
I agree that it is good practice. I just thought flashing Voodoo to Voodoo and not disabling the lagfix was a pretty standard thing to do. Sorry if I confused anyone..
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] ssmr2t:
Hello Everyone....

My name is Alex, and I am pretty darn new to this Android community...

I must say that I am quite impressed with how much the people here help

eachother so quickly... thank you for the vass knowledge!

I had a question regarding DroidEmulite and Wiimote controller...

I am currently on TnT lite 4.1....

I got all the stuff set up properly... I can see the controller, choose the controller

and even use the controller (the wii controller) in text boxes and it works perfectly....

but I can not get it to work for the life of me in DroidEmulite.

I set "Use outside device" (Bluetooth controller) for controller settings... but for some

reason I can not get the tablet to recognize the controller when in the emulator... only

when I am in Launcher pro or other applications.

Any possible help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Thank you,

Alex
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] lordgodgeneral:
Its been a little bit since I played with this but first launch wiimote, and pair and select the Ime. Then in Droid emu you need to go into the settings wand select alternate. Then you'll need to map the buttons so the button on the controller does what you want.
[General Questions and Answers] bluenfee:
I obtained one of these phones the other day

http://i.imgur.com/XyqQK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TxsFm.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/FWc7m.jpg

As of right now I can't identify the phone and whenever I turn it on I receive this screen:

http://i.imgur.com/zrwDr.jpg

Are there any resources available for this phone and any information for the original ROM or any custom ROMs?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] viktorg23:
Hello guys,

I have one problem with my Kaiser and although I've searched for a resolution I couldn't find something helpful. Maybe some of you know about this and give me some advice.

I installed different android releases on my Kaiser but after the system starts I just cannot see any contacts on the sim ( nor messages ). I must say that I made the installation having the sim card removed from phone. Why can't I "see" the contacts and messages on my sim? ( on other normal phones everthing is ok ).

Thanks a lot,

victor
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Hakim Rahman:
you can resolve it in the phonebook settings -> accounts -> gmail account -> contats and check it!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] luck_shawn:
no pb setting

i don't have the option for phonebook settings and i'm having the same problem, i went to my gmail settings and the contact box is checked. i'm using Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo 2.2, and can't find any options to view from my sim. what do i do?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] PoXFreak:
You must transfer contacts from the SIM to the phone, then set up the GMail contacts sync. Go to Contacts, then press menu "Import/Export contacts", and import from SIM card. When done, set your phone to sync with GMail server and your contacts will be uploaded to your GMail account.

When you reinstall Android, all you need to do is sync with your GMail account and all your contacts reappear, like magic!...lol.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] c_arivazhagan:
I used WP7 for little less than 10 hours and went back to WM6.5....below are my reasons. Feel free to post if you have any.

May be you find a answer from the experts...

-> I use iGo 8.0 GPS software. I couldn't install it in WP7

-> I also use mNotes to sync emails, contacts and calendar from Lotus notes to my phone. (I used Companion link...Lotus notes to Gmail to WP7)

-> It did not recognize my SD card. I use 16GB San disk. May be it is my fault, I did have my card during the first reboot

-> My laptop has XP 64bit OS. There is no Zune software available for this OS.

-> I am not sure if there is a "Mass storage" mode available..

I think it is not possible to use any of the WM applications on WP7. Correct me if I am wrong.

DFT team did a amazing job of porting the WP7 for HD2. But I am blaming Windows for following apple's strategy...in locking the hardware capabilities by using s/w....and be dependent to zune for everything (like itune)

Ari
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] TheOnly1:
- iGo is not available for WP7, but you can use Navigon. Maps are basically the same as they come from the same provider.

- You already found a solution for your Lotus sync.

- Was the card in the phone during first boot? How do you know it wans't recognized? WP7 uses it's own file system and the card can't be seen by dektop Windows anymore!

- XP 64bit? WOW, that's really exotic.

- There is a sort of mass storage mode with a registry hack on the desktop PC. Google for it.

- Old WM software is NOT compatible as WP7 is a completely new OS.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] geewld44:
Problem

I am trying to revert back to my old roms and having problems.

I put a ottoman rom in it worked once,now the opening screen shows up and it boots into windows 7.I tried task 29,flashed a radio rom all unsuccessful.

Please need help.:(
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] youmeus:
My Reason

For me it was because of the battery drain. I loved W7, but if my phone dies quickly it just is not worth all the eye candy and feeling of sticking it to the man...so went back to Android in hopes that there will be real update soon that gives better battery performance.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] c_arivazhagan:
Try to flash a standard ROM (if your HD2 is Tmobile, then download it from Tmobile.com).

Enter into boot loader mode and then try executing the exe file.

Thats what I did. Everything worked fine for me.

Ari
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] cdguider:
WOW

Directed at: dr_derqami

Some people are the most unappreciative a**holes in the community.

WP7 should have this,

Magldr should have this,

Who are you?

Last I check the HSPL said Cotulla, Magldr - Cotulla, DFT, Da G, who are we to make demands.

Consider yourself lucky you are able to have anything other than Windows Mobile ( not saying its great, it works).

Show the respect to this community and others before you post.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] rob-ra:
cdguider.. Chill out dude he's just stating his oppinion about WP7 and hoping for certain features in the future, nothing disrespectfull about that. Please stop crying about such bs...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] haksam:
i would view the current wp7 rom = android cupcake

its a total re-haul and time will tell (they need to catch up at a faster pace though)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Johnnyboy21:
Some reasons why I changed:

(i) Camera in the WM7 HD2 port is very poor quality, no autofocus.

(ii) Incoming caller names were not recognised from my contacts list.

(iii) Could order apps from Windows Marketplace, but they never arrived.

(iv) Wanted to try Artemis for WM6.5, which I think is far more polished.

I'll try WP7 again, say in a year's time once the bugs are ironed out. Sunk enought time on this trial - time to move on.

Credit to those that managed the port. Impressive.

[J]