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[Atrix 4G General] BodenM:
Could someone get one from AT&T for me? I'll trade you for a HTC Desire A8183 in mint condition. I'm not waiting 80 gajillion years for Telstra to get it here, or paying for what Telstra will charge ($1000+).
[Atrix 4G General] zedmec:
my guess is

phone 599 no contract

multimedia dock 79

car dock 39

regular dock 49

laptop 149

299 two year
[Atrix 4G General] ram8704:
Decisions, Decisions

I'm really considering this beauty. I am on the fence. I kinda like the sound of Samsung's Infuse with a 4.5" screen. On the other hand the Atrix has dual cores. Plus I'm and impatient SoB and the captivate is out now. I need to upgrade and I like having so many options, but its nerve racking.
[Atrix 4G General] ieilisuk:
The multimedia dock and regular dock are the same thing, you just get an IR remote for media.
[Atrix 4G General] youareme7:
I'm not 100% sure, but I think the standard dock only has power whereas the multimedia dock also has hdmi and usb ports on the back.
[Atrix 4G General] sn0pzer:
Same here! :)
[Atrix 4G General] quinto0827:
i think i will be getting it day one. been waiting to upgrade my iphone 3g forever.
[Atrix 4G General] zedmec:
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U.../ci.Motorola-ATRIX-US-EN.productCompatibility

I am pretty sure the regular dock just charges the phone...and they conveniently don't show a back side pic of the regular doc....we shall see
[Atrix 4G General] BodenM:
You guys are lucky when it comes to phone prices. If we ever see the ATRIX officially in Aus, our bloody greedy telcos will charge at least $1000 for it. I payed nearly $800 for my Desire in October.

Swyped from my HTC Desire running LeeDrOiD 2.3d with Tapatalk.
[Atrix 4G General] BodenM:
I do believe you are thinking of a NAND lock. Locked/encrypted bootloader = No custom kernels.

Swyped from my HTC Desire running LeeDrOiD 2.3d with Tapatalk.
[Atrix 4G General] ieilisuk:
Ah I see. I was just led to believe from Engadget's CES coverage, specifically the last video Josh Topolsky did on the Atrix that there was a single dock.

They got confused when switching from the Dock connected to a monitor to a dock connected to a TV saying it was different but the rep guy said it was the same thing just hooked up to a different screen and you used the remote. They didn't metion, as far is I know, anything about a 'regular dock' during their coverage.

Entirely possible one is just a regular charging dock I guess. Although I don't see why anyone would bother to buy a charging dock over a multimedia dock unless it was significantly cheaper.

We will indeed see!
[Atrix 4G General] bfrank:
Anyone explain the eFuse deal? I have been off the forums for a long time but am so in for this phone to replace my Fuse. But I really want the option of unlocking teathering/hot spot if possible.

Will this phone be rooted?
[Atrix 4G General] ieilisuk:
Given time of course it will be rooted. Getting custom ROM's to work on it is a different ballgame, especially with the webtop stuff.

But I trust in the guys on XDA to get it rooted and ROM's cooked.

Not that you can't unlock and use tethering regardless of root or not..
[Atrix 4G General] vido.ardes:
There is just a standard charging / data dock which has a usb power cable, for instance using it as a clock in the bedroom or a desk clock at work (I have on for the Hero). It wasn't at CES, the one connected to the tv and monitor were the same multimedia dock
[Atrix 4G General] ieilisuk:
I stand corrected! I'd still get the media dock over the charging dock. Seems a bit silly to have both. After all what's wrong with a good old fashioned Micro USB cable?
[Atrix 4G General] SoberGuy:
Agreed

Agreed on both parts.

Eh, huh?

Rooting means granting root-level access within the OS. This enables you to do things that, essentially, Google and most manufacturers don't think every user should be able to do. Wifi hotspot, for example. They're OK with it, but they make it a tad more difficult so that the average user doesn't rape the carriers (their business partners) out of tethering costs.

Custom ROMs is a completely different story. Loading a custom ROM requires access to the bootloader. Think of this as what loads the OS, and what allows for the updates to be pushed to the device (be it via ADB or OTA). XDA, for years, has been about obtaining access to bootloaders so that one can flash custom ROMs. HTC doesn't try very hard to stop it, hence why a ton of their phones are featured here. Hell, most companies don't try too hard to stop.

Motorola, on the other hand, is a bit different. The created what they call eFuse, which is an electronic fuse. Mess with the bootloader (try to crack it), and an electronic fuse goes off that renders your lovely Moto phone a complete brick. Root a moto? No prob. Pretty easy, for the most part. Flash a custom ROM onto a Moto with eFuse? LOL. I *think* that the eFuse has (sort of, maybe) been worked around for a device or two. But the risks are pretty significant, IMO.

Big difference between rooting the OS and unlocking the bootloader. Rooting doesn't unlock the bootloader to allow custom ROMs. Likewise, on a device with an easy bootloader to unlock (Nexus 1, Nexus S), you can unlock the bootloader....and still not have root access inside the OS. They are quite separate.

This is, at least, my understanding of things on a fairly simple level. I'm sure someone with a bit better understanding of how it all works can get into the technical terms and crap. But for the dude that asked about eFuse...it has nothing to do with rooting.
[Atrix 4G General] g0at:
Its been a while since I've had to flash a recovery image so please forgive my ignorance.

I was under the assumption that koush's CWM does everything for you these days? I.e..

1. Root phone (unrevoked or similar)

2. Install CWM

3. Flash recovery Img, via CWM which does all the hard unlock bootloader stuff for you?

That's what I'm hoping anyway as I can see the method to unlocking motos bootloader pretty tricky!
[Atrix 4G General] ieilisuk:
I tend to think the term "unlocking" refers to getting the phone unlocked from the carrier unless accompanied by the word "bootloader" after it.

Thats just my immediate thought when thinking about unlocking a phone.

In the context of unlocking bootloaders you are absolutely correct.
[Atrix 4G General] SoberGuy:
You have a great point there. We did once consider unlocking to mean SIM unlocking, and now the term has carried over to bootloaders. Perhaps we should coin a new phrase for bootloaders? LOL

Even with SIM unlocking, it has nothing to do with flashing custom ROMs or tethering, unless you unlock it to take it to another carrier, lose out on 3G frequencies, and tether on an "unknown" device at pitiful speeds. Or am I missing something there? I admit I don't tether at all, and I have very little practical knowledge about it. My understanding is you have to root and install some app (don't even know which one or where to find it lol). I don't have a laptop (which is why I find the Atrix ideal), so I've never really had a need to tether. So if I'm missing something, my apologies. I admit a limited understanding of all things Android ;)
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
Depends on costs and such.

I've got a Captivate. Not a bad phone but the GPS sucks and I would like to support a company that actually cares about the users. The Samsung Infuse 4G or whatever it is- looks cool- but Samsung's track record with support wasn't broken with the Captivate, I'm not chancing another Samsung device.

The screens are better, GPS gotta be better, fingerprint reader, and it morphs into a FREAKING LAPTOP.... Oh, yes.

I think my ETF is around $100. (halfway through with the older contract plan). So... I might sell the Captivate, pay the $100 ETF and the new contract price on the Atrix, and I could upgrade for "free".

My only reservation is to see what Apple comes out with. I mean, SURELY they'll have gotten tired of Android mopping the floor and will release something very cool?
[Atrix 4G General] drleospaceman:
I'll need to see the screen in person first. It's pentile architecture sounds convoluted compared to normal subpixels. Namely the 1/3rd less subpixels and a fluctuating backlight depending on colors being displayed. Who knows if you'll be able to disable that via Android; the Focus has the same exact feature and you cannot disable it via the OS.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenTile_matrix_family#PenTile_RGBW
[Atrix 4G General] Moandal:
The Atrix looks amazing - it's definitely on my shopping list. I don't really want to go with Orange, so I'll probably get a sim-free unlocked one.

Waiting until it comes out in the UK will be a pain, but the upside is that by then they may have ironed out any initial glitches.
[Atrix 4G General] vido.ardes:
Where did you hear it was pentile?
[Atrix 4G General] Rastor:
PenTile display was in the CES announcement and can be confirmed many places, including the Wikipedia entry for Motorola Atrix 4G.
[Atrix 4G General] ieilisuk:
Tethering is something all Android handsets are able to do just, some carriers disable the native android way to do it (Wifi hotspot?) and put an app on there to keep track of how you're using it so they can charge you a monthly fee for it.

As you say you can get apps on the market to do it as well. The advantage of having a custom ROM is that the carriers can't tell you're tethering since you are using tethering apps not controlled by them. But the phone itself is quite capable of tethering without root or a custom ROM.

There has been some debate about whether carriers can actually tell the difference between tethering your device and using 3G etc, I wish I could remember the website with the article now lol.

Anyway this is entirely off topic for this thread and i'm probably high and drunk and have no idea what i'm talking about :o. But that's what I understand about the topic.

I also think coining a new word for bootloader unlocking is a marvelous idea.
[Atrix 4G General] ieilisuk:
Engadget just confirmed the AT&T Atrix is coming out at the end of Feb. Lucky people!
[Atrix 4G General] vido.ardes:
Disappointing :( but not a deal breaker

EDIT: That was about the pentile display BTW
[Atrix 4G General] Rastor:
As a Nexus One owner I understand your concern, but I'm hopeful that the high-resolution RGBW PenTile screen in the Atrix will not have the issues we're used to seeing with RGBG PenTile displays.
[Atrix 4G General] thetechman123:
Wait what's wrong with the display (pentile?)
[Atrix 4G General] Rastor:
Human eyes have receptors for red, green, and blue light. A standard RGB display has a red, green, and blue filter for each pixel. In a PenTile display however there is a much more complicated layout - if you do an internet search for pentile you can see examples. PenTile is more power efficient but if you have very sharp eyes (or hold your face close to the screen) you can see the side effect of this layout as "fuzziness" around high contrast areas such as text. So if you do things like web browsing with your text size set very small you might find it annoying.
[Atrix 4G General] kbanes:
So, end of Febuary...

I think that i will buy a used iphone, and wait for a) WMC, and b) what the first month of Atrix problems turn out to be.

If nothing at WMC blows it away, it may be that I buy by end of March.
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
The Captivate has a pentile Super AMOLED and honestly I think it looks great unless you look too close at it.

The only people that care about super high resolution and are willing to pay for it are the iSheep.
[Atrix 4G General] LockeCPM4:
Gotta love the spam.

Anyhow, I am pumped about this device. The pentile display does not worry me because I have noticed no sharpness issues with my Captivate, and with the higher resolution I doubt it would be an issue anyway. I just hope the color is vibrant and comparative to a SAMOLED display.

The Atrix seems ahead of its time with features such as webtop. I just hope this is not a case of over promising and under delivering. Either way this is a great device if not for the spec sheet alone.
[Atrix 4G General] Rastor:
I agree the pentile is not a big concern. I don't plan to be holding my phone up close to my face. :)
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
Exactly. So far it seems to be great though. I have a feeling the hackability of this device won't be very good for awhile because the webtop is so totally different, either use what Motorola gives you or severely cripple it.

My plan is to sell my laptop and Captivate. (Maybe make, $900 selling both).

Buying the Atrix and Laptop Dock (Maybe, $800??)...

And then moving all my big files (music, photos, etc) onto a Media Server (synced with the cloud).

This means I've always got my documents with me. Always. When I get home, I can dock it up into my laptop dock and have a full keyboard to use.
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
Heck... Dropbox will sync to Android won't it, so I could actually access 100% of my files 100% of the time as long as I've got a connection.

Then again... I could do this already, the only thing my "grand plan" changes is getting rid of my full-fledged laptop for the laptop dock.
[Atrix 4G General] LockeCPM4:
I am definitely going to keep my main laptop. At least at first. It is far too early to say, IMHO, just home much the atrix will be able to replace my windows laptop. Only time will tell.
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
The question isn't how much the Atrix could replace it, the question is how much Android could replace it.

Office 2010 capability, PRINTER DRIVERS, and things like this are the deal breakers for me, I was thinking today.

In reality, Microsoft needs to do something like this. Have a separate WebTob partition that boots into a lite but functional version of Windows- my God... Windows in your pocket? Those things would sell like mad.
[Atrix 4G General] thepoetvd776:
If somehow I can run this on T-mobile then most likely I'll be getting one also.
[Atrix 4G General] Imperticus:
I'm waiting for the newly leaked HTC phone to become official before making a decision. Contract ends next month, can't wait to get a new phone.

Does this and the Optimus 2X have the same/similar processor?
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
It's just a Verizon leak so far though...

And the Optimus 2X isn't for US Markets (we never get the best).
[Atrix 4G General] LockeCPM4:
You could run it on T-Mobile if you can get it SIM unlocked, but you will not be able to read T-Mobile 3G as it runs on the 1700Mhz frequency which the Atrix does not support.
[Atrix 4G General] LockeCPM4:
The processor is the same for both. Dual Core Nvidia Tegra 2 clocked at 1Ghz
[Atrix 4G General] thechump:
I use squaretrade.com for my warranties. They've done a great job supporting my Nexus One. I had a cracked screen and they fixed it for a $50 deductible. The warranty was $120 for two years of coverage.

Unfortunately, alcohol + nexus + snow = tragedy. My nexus one is now completely dead from water damage. Fortunately, SquareTrade is reimbursing me my full purchase price for the phone ($529).
[Atrix 4G General] Imperticus:
From the rumours there are meant to be 2 major phones. One is a Verizon, the other is a GSM phone.
[Atrix 4G General] TexUs:
You got lucky because usually what SquareTrade does is:

$529 purchase - $129 screen fix = $400 left.

Broke your phone? Well, you only have $400 left now, can't buy a new one with that, so here's the remaining $400 check.

That's actually right there in their terms of service. They don't warrant the device, they warrant the money you spent: which generally speaking, makes it a waste of money.

Like I said, you got lucky.
[Atrix 4G General] Milkshakes00:
It entirely depends on if it's hackable, tbh. The phone sounds amazing, but I like Android because of the ability to customize it.

Motorola should just "accidentally" put a work around to the bootloader. ;)

Sent from my Cappy running Serendipity 4.3 with alien technology.
[Atrix 4G General] MarcoPolo78:
Without hesitation

I will be grabbing one when it drops :) I've been with blackberry for awhile now and have become bored with RIM ... The atrix has a good chance at being the phone of 2011 . :cool:
[Atrix 4G General] thechump:
When my screen broke they only charged the $50 deductible. Also when my phone broke due to water damage, they charged a $50 deductible. I know it isn't perfect but it is a whole lot better than having a broken phone with nothing to show for it.
[Atrix 4G General] mgymnop:
I will get one as soon as AT&T gets them in the store....I jump ship and will move from T-mobile to AT&T. Hope this won't be a big mistake but T-mobile has really bad coverage in San Diego and even if it is much cheaper than AT&T, I am too much annoyed being on EDGE 50% of my time and 50% on 3G with 0.6 mbps.
[Atrix 4G General] mikeku:
Laptop upgrade

So , there is no more need to have a laptop , i think this will be the future of smartphones and the end of laptos, you will only need to upgrade one of them and not both, once you upgrade your phone your upgrading your laptop too... way to go motorola.... that's is really clever laptop market is going down,....
[Atrix 4G General] samven582:
I will buying one as soon it is available :)
[Atrix 4G General] LockeCPM4:
I will be getting this as well. And as far as "hackability" I am OK so long as we can get a Root and the ability to sideload apps since AT&T usually removes that functionality from android devices.
[Atrix 4G General] RiNo808:
same here, I hate it when att locks their devices down...please keep the side apps loadable and the ability to hotspot tether...
[Atrix 4G General] clark222:
Im looking to get one too
[Atrix 4G General] vinay427:
My contract with At&t ended in November, and I've been waiting for a fantastic phone to come out. I just hope it has an unlocked bootloader for easy rooting and ROMs. My only other gripe is that At&t's 3G coverage isn't nearly as consistent as Verizon's in terms of coverage, although it's significantly faster. But the places I visit on a daily basis all have solid At&t 3G, so this shouldn't usually be an issue. Oh yeah, unless something spectacular comes out at MWC. Like Tegra 3, even more RAM, etc.
[Atrix 4G General] Jodin:
will definitely be trading my captivate for the atrix. cant wait!
[Atrix 4G General] SoberGuy:
IIRC, Tegra 3 is expected to ship late this year, to manufacturers. Give them a few months to work upper a device or two, and release dates for consumers won't be until early 2012. I'll take an Atrix for a year, easy. There's always something better around the corner. Tegra 3 is a long corner, though.

Sent from my Sexy Nexy, courtesy of the fine developers of Tapatalk
[Atrix 4G General] CajunChicken:
I am very much looking forward to picking one of these up, but i'm worried that if i buy it through a third party then I'll lose out here in the UK. any thoughts? NB i don't really want to wait 6 months for an orange release so i'm definetely buying it unlocked.
[Atrix 4G General] vinay427:
Good point. I'll stick with the Atrix then.
[Atrix 4G General] DukeL:
Scroll top to bottom of the XDA home page......

ATRIX is the best phone on this whole forum list NO DOUBT!!!!;)

Of Course I'm getting mine!!!!:D
[Atrix 4G General] sdlopez83:
To Moto or not to Moto

I am on the Bandwagon, Depends on 2 things

1) Mobile World Conference- WHat show stopper will come out of it that can beat this device, IE Qualcomm newest proceser; dual core with 2 GPUs such as the Iphone 5; Possible reason for the Early Feb release which is before the MWC. Something to think about.

2) XDA SUPPORT - Will this be rooted and able to be modded by us?
[Atrix 4G General] Mike's Aria:
If you're upgrading from one smartphone to another and you have unlimited data, you are able to continue having unlimited data.

I went through this ordeal when I got my aria on release date from RadioShack. They said I was unable to and had actually removed it from my service. I called at&t after purchasing it and they reinstated it on my account and gave me a $30 inconvenience credit.

If they give you crap about it, just tell them to look at their press release. It stated that you can keep it if you're going from one smartphone to another.
[Atrix 4G General] SoberGuy:
Thanks for that. Hope this helps

http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=17991&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=30854&mapcode=financial|wireless

Yup, I dug it up just to verify.
[Atrix 4G General] suleiman.aql:
count me in :) ... that's of course if I could use my 3G t-mobile sim on it
[Atrix 4G General] antioch216:
I'm definitely wanting one of these. Im eligible for an upgrade on the 10th of Feb, so hopefully It comes out this month! I'm ready to get rid of my iPhone 3G!!!
[Atrix 4G General] lewy10:
I getting one very soon. I will keep my N1 and pick up a Motorola Atrix, or should I sell my N1?
[Atrix 4G General] jug6ernaut:
Sell it, i am. It is still worth good money. Definitely one of the rarer phones out there.
[Atrix 4G General] borguesian:
How much?
[Atrix 4G General] jug6ernaut:
Well im trading mine for an hd2 + cash. But i would say if its an At&t n1 its worth at least $350
[Atrix 4G General] SoberGuy:
I've got the AT&T N1 and it's tempting to pick up $300+ for it. But man, I'd hate to sell her, even if she'd be used less. I love having a decent backup phone when going out to shadier environments...

Sent from my Sexy Nexy, courtesy of the fine developers of Tapatalk
[Atrix 4G General] nixternal:
My buddy works for Motorola here in Chicago on the Android phones and this is one of his phones. I played around with it on Saturday and let me just tell you that this is the sweetest phone I have messed with to date. He had this, the Droid X, and a Droid 2, and had them all playing together nicely. Oh man I was in love. Insanely bad ass phone, fast, sleek, and sexy!
[Atrix 4G General] samven582:
did he tell you when it will be released?
[Atrix 4G General] Lightning N1:
WOW, you touched it:D (JEALOUS)

I can't wait to get my hands on this phone, that will be a big test of if I can replace my N1.

Not that rolling back from Gingerbread to Froyo will be fun, (temporary).

or flashing CM7 Nightlies to get the latest features

or flashing/morphing themes to change all the Android green to cyan

or manually loading my favorite smoked widgets (going to miss those)

What am I going to do with all this extra time:confused:

I don't think there will ever be a phone as well supported by Rom devs as the N1:(
[Atrix 4G General] djpharoah:
Another N1 guy here anxiously awaiting this phone. I'm also hoping that I can get this with my upgrade credits on AT&T :D I also hope this phone becomes remotely active on here and that we can soon start hacking it etc etc... I mean the N1 is THE best rom phone out there and to go to MotoBLUR is not something I can handle... AT&T better not cripple this one.
[Atrix 4G General] nixternal:
No he didn't tell me, though I would think pretty soon. Motorola people are big time hush hush on stuff. I can't get any info whatsoever. I asked about GB for the Droid 2 and he pretty much said he couldn't tell me, then to get me to shut up I think, he said, "I don't know, they tell us stuff like this." I couldn't even get him to crack a smile for a hint. They must be robots, or better yet Droids over there :)

That is one nice thing about Chicago, we have regular Android things go on, and we get to see some things before they go to market. Motorola is always there and always brings toys to play with.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] Pruikki:
This is a more droidish than original. sounds MUCH more better! an real!

my first modification.

anyone can use this file for making roms and stuff but they have to mention that i am the author of this file.

in zip file there are 2 files, short and littlebit longer. ALL LESS THAN 5 Seconds

Comment.

also tell me if i did something wrong.:):)

i think this is Great for droid users! my friend has this bootsound on his droid and he is happy!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] tomeks:
Not that important yet, but worth checking.

Main target is i5700, but maybe there may be an open-source PowerVR driver for Linux with benefit for GalaxyS as well.

There Might Be An Open PowerVR Driver In Q3'11

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTAzNg

Will see.