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[EVO Shift 4G General] cosine83:
The processor while only 800MHz vastly outperforms the 1GHz in the EVO. Also, since the CPU in the Shift is a 45nm processor it gets much, much battery life sitting on a stock configuration. Once we have perma-root and NAND unlock on this thing you'll be able to overclock it massively without much loss in the way of battery life. The GPU is also much better than the EVO's. This phone flies compared to the EVO at stock and even on CM or Myn's Warm 2.2.

I came from an EVO and haven't regretted it at all.
[EVO Shift 4G General] the5ifty:
My things are that I am not a huge fan of the smaller screen...taller but not much wider than my hero...and I am a romaholic will it be ready to port evo roms or g2 roms to the shift?
[EVO Shift 4G General] Compusmurf:
Until we get a perm root with nand unlock, the only thing folks can give you is speculation. Until said time, the answer would be "NO".
[EVO Shift 4G General] the5ifty:
I know nothing can be done until perm root. Just wondering if there are enough similarities.
[EVO Shift 4G General] oboroninja:
The biggest most notable issue for me was the drastic change in screen size, its not a issue for me now though, as I consider the battery life to be an excellent compromise in place of the larger display. And I do notice a difference with the cpu when I'm playing dungeon defenders, gameboid, or need for speed shift. This phone also handles gt racing hd much more fluidly than my evo ever has. I do prefer reading books on the evo in a pinch/ whenever my kindle isn't within reach.
[EVO Shift 4G General] webguru4life:
I'm sorry i could not get past the drastic downgrade in screen size. Once you have had an evo.. a real evo, you cannot downgrade for a phone that has the potential to have a better battery duration, cpu, and gpu. You must understand that one of the leading factors as to why the evo's battery depletes so fast is because of the larger and might i add more beautiful screen. Until, they come out with a real evo shift with the same size (at least 4") screen with better battery life i will never switch to a lesser version of my phone.

note: I had a "evo" shift pre-ordered until i saw what it really was; a false association with the original evo in order to generate more revenue.
[EVO Shift 4G General] foxsdaddy67:
well thanks for not shifting lol
[EVO Shift 4G General] riggsandroid:
Lol @ the Evo guru elitist :-)
[EVO Shift 4G General] oboroninja:
You do realize that sprint is making the "Evo" brand a line of 4G devices rather than just one, soon to be outdated model right?
[EVO Shift 4G General] riggsandroid:
LOL he's a guru, of course he knows that, and he also knows that the Evo is superior to the Shift in performance...oh wait...

:p
[EVO Shift 4G General] herbthehammer:
After removing a lot of the crapware in the phone and keeping stock apps that I will use, the shift is even more responsive than out of the box. I'm only keeping or installing apps that don't slow down the phone and ones I use everyday. I try to keep it lean and quick. I had my doubts in the beginning until I figured out some of my essential apps were slowing things down. I found smaller and quicker alternatives.

It is amazing how much quicker things run when I switched to adw ex, fast preset, turn off eye candy, use gingerbread theme and smaller filesize keyboards. Gingerkeyboard, Dr.ben0x keyboard, HTC ime mod with custom theme, battery notif all help with keeping my phone "speedy". Pun intended
[EVO Shift 4G General] kpoz:
I have an EVO, but my girlfriend will be purchasing an EVO in a week.

Anything I should pay special attention to?
[EVO Shift 4G General] riggsandroid:
you mean the shift?
[EVO Shift 4G General] the5ifty:
so I think I am back to getting an evo with my upgrade on the first and hopefully there will be permanent root for the shift before my 30 days is up so I can just trade them...i need root and roms
[EVO Shift 4G General] oboroninja:
Lol I guess he didn't get that memo regarding the processor's performance...
[EVO Shift 4G General] johnnycross22:
while webguru does come off sounding like a bonehead with all his "Real EVO" talk, I do own both phones and I'd say the performance of the Shift at 800mhz to be very similar to the EVO at 1ghz. This was comparing things like load up time and performance of web browsing, gaming (from emulators all the way up to extremely graphic intensive games (N.O.V.A., Asphalt5, etc.)) and video playback, as well as plain old UI fluidity. And to be perfectly honest there is no noticeable difference stock vs stock. We'll have to wait until root is achieved so we can see the true potential of the Shift but as it stands right now with stock configurations, you can't give much of an edge to the shift processor wise. You can post all the quadrant and smartbench scores you want but real world, both devices side by side simultaneously running the same programs, they run essentially identical. So pick your poison: Do you want a bigger screen...or a hardware keyboard. Both phones kick ass!

As likely as it is that the shift will gain root/overclocking, as it stands, Cyanogen on the EVO currently blows away the stock shift in my experience.
[EVO Shift 4G General] oboroninja:
Try playing Dungeon Defenders, that game plays just awful on my Evo, wether I'm running RLS5, CM6.1, or MiUi, or any multitude of the available kernels that include HAVS,BFS, ect.It stutters hangs up sometimes while trying to navigate the menu, and you don't have to have a lot of enemies on the screen simultaneously for framerate to drop signifigantly to the point of being unplayable. On the Shift Dungeon Defenders is actually playable.
[EVO Shift 4G General] dkd711:
I upgraded from my EVO, reason is I hate Touch keyboards, and Evo was a bit big in my pocket. CPU and GPU alot better on the Shift, battery life seems great even on stock rom. I switched back to using my EVO until a perm root and nand unlock is achieved and better roms are released. Phone is the perfect size to pocket carry and have a physical keyboard. Can't wait to overclock this sucker, Quadrant over 1500 running stock, gotta love that!
[EVO Shift 4G General] johnnycross22:
Thanks I'll give it a shot, I've been tempted to try out DD. I certainly wasn't trying to say the EVO and Shift are identical performance wise in all situations or will be in the future, I tried to use the words "as it stands" and "essentially" because I was just sharing my overall experience as of right now which is that for 99% of applications available (except Dungeon Defenders apparently lol) as well as core OS apps, the performance of the EVO is extremely similar to that of the Shift. It'll be interesting to see how well the shift holds up in the future as games become more and more complex, hopefully they dont all start requiring Tegra2 too soon :( but as far as non-600MB (!!! as I just discovered now when trying to download DD, holy crap!) tegra2-tailored games and applications, the EVO can pretty much go blow for blow.
[EVO Shift 4G General] kpoz:
Yep. That's what happens when you mess around on xda while in class haha.
[EVO Shift 4G General] oboroninja:
Lol yeah its a rather massive file forgot to mention that ^_^. I work for Sprint, I was the advocate for both the Evo and the Evo Shift so I own and use both. I love the Evo and yes it and the Shift are very similar in performance and day to day use, however the battery life and the higher performance on games have swayed me somewhat. As far as future performance I don't know how well the Shift will keep up with the looming onslaught of tegra powered devices that are coming o_O ...
[EVO Shift 4G General] trentlythp:
Thanks everyone for the opinions on the shift. I was debating on buying one just to have it. I've flashed and modded my EVO 10 ways to Sunday :) I think once NAND unlock is achieved this phone will be crazy to mess with! Plus my wife wants my EVO and i won't waste an upgrade :)
[EVO Shift 4G General] herbthehammer:
I activated my old evo and ran it all day today. All that time I was noticing lag that I didn't notice before. Its running stock rooted with all the bloat removed. I just got home and activated my shift. I can notice the improvement in speed and responsiveness on the shift. Angry birds was kinda laggy on the evo and on the shift its very responsive and things move faster when comparing to the evo. I was watching my gf tonight using my epic I gave her and seeing how the lag was when hitting home or back when inside a program. I laughed out loud. She asked if I was laughing at her. I said no, I just had a funny thought.

The trend of the shift being a girly phone... I don't care. I have been getting more used to the shift and am liking it more than the epic and evo. I do miss the additional codecs installed on the epic for audio and video playback out of the box. The shift isn't as multimedia friendly as the epic was. I am going to be typing way more than watching videos anyways.

Sent from two tin cans and a looong string.
[EVO Shift 4G General] herbthehammer:
Tegra? Isn't that nvidia? I used to be a nvidia fanboy until every video card I ever had from them always died. I had cheap ones and I had a five hundred dollar card from them. No I didn't overclock. What about all the problems people have been having with laptops and macs that have nvidia chipsets? To me, their track record isn't good for reliability and longevity. If tegra isn't nvidia, then nevermind... lol

Maybe some of you can vouch for me. I've seen some really old ati cards that are still chugging along ten plus years later. I used to hate ati too until I noticed which cards worked and which ones died.

Sent from two tin cans and a looong string.
[EVO Shift 4G General] johnnycross22:
Yes the Tegra is made by Nvidia. Its very low power consumption but very powerful. My only first hand experience with Tegra is the zuneHD which has a first gen tegra in it. For being such a small device its extremely powerful. It tears through HD video and seamlessly outputs 1080p to my hdtv. And although there aren't many games for it take a look on youtube for zunehd project gotham racing you'll see that the chip is very capable for 3d gaming and thats just the first gen chip.

Tegra 2 is a combination cpu/gpu. If you've heard the buzz about dual core phones this is it. Tegra 2 is a dual core arm cortex processor combined with a geforce gpu which lets you have high powered graphics with low power consumption.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpGtu_ZkwqA <-- an example
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] movrshakr:
That is an example of things that are scattered in many threads...specifically, what are the things you should DO or SAVE before flashing a new ROM?

Above seems to be one (except is "EFS" a folder or what?). Would folks please offer your suggestions of the "protective" steps to be done/preserved in case of future difficulties.

Actually, in addition to the one quoted, doing a Titanium Backup is in almost all of the how-to discussions, so I guess that is already covered.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcord11758:
efs is really only relevant if you plan on using kies. Your phones product code and imei number are stoped in those files. flashing roms can alter these files. I have never done this. If you want to down load root explorer, or free option android mate. I would pay for root explorer. Find the efs file copy and paste it to your internal sd. Then save it to your pc

Android id. Dl android id changer from market. if you have not already dl busy box from market. Install busy box using app. Open android id changer, click save id, custom flashes change this and it us god to have it saved, you can restore using same app after flash

Do you know what odin is?

Do you know your build number?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] movrshakr:
Recapping this...

EFS is a file. Can save it using Root Explorer or Android Mate.

I have copied down all the data under the battery. Is there more than that in this file?

I am confused about second paragraph. You mention download

Android ID Changer

Busy Box

Which one is it that captures the Android ID? And obviously it saves it, but where?

Yes, odin is mentioned in the how-to's, but it IS part of the flashing process. I am looking for things that should be done BEFORE starting that.

Yes, I know the build (1006). It is part of the data under the battery. And flashing wouldn't destroy or modify that.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcord11758:
Yes the efs had your csc or product code. If you flash a rom that is a port from another device this may be changed. Not an issue if you do not use kies.

Busybox is an app that installs commands onto your phone that certain programs need to operate correctly. Titanium backup and android id changer need this to function correctly. Android id changer saves your id in a file on your internal sd. The file is called update.id when you flash a rom you open the app again click load id, then change id. Phone reboots, id us back to your original id

Odin is a utility that flashes you back to stock 2.1. It is used by many as a safe way to go from rom to rom with a clean install. It is also used to recover from software bricks.

If you have more questions that pop up pm me, this way we are not clogging up the q&a
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] movrshakr:
I think the exchange helps many people who I assume, like me, are trying to sort all this out.

MAIN purpose of the thread is to identify things to do/save before beginning the 'change to another ROM' process--which to me would include the Odin flash back to stock if you aren't there already.

But these side question resolutions are pertinent.

Your Busybox comment threw me a curve. It sounds like you are saying it installs stuff TiBU and Android ID Changer need in order to work. You mean TiBU as downloaded from the market does not work as a standalone app?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcord11758:
tibu needs busy box. If you download tibu and open the app there is a button on the bottom that says problems. If you click it it will also look to install busy box commands.

You are right about the usefulness of threads like this, no disrespect but it looks like you joined xda 4 days ago. These types of discussions are constant and rehashed on nearly a daily basis. For some odd mental quirk I read then all and help when I can. There are a thousand questions you can have, the offer to pm was to keep it easy
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] movrshakr:
I have been reading for two weeks--I mean reading A LOT, not just 4 days ago; that was when I registered on the site. This is a =wonderful= resource, but it is a plain fact that what you need to know is scattered all over the place, both video and written how-to's. I have not found a single one that includes everything you need to know. I mean, for example, they will tell you to do something, which seems trivial to them, but which really involves other knowledge. And that sounds like a non-isue, but in fact it is a complete showstopper for "us" types. Yes, you can go off hunting to clarify the incompleteness, but that is exactly what I am talking about--hunting all over the place.

By the time someone gets to the point they can create something with completeness, the problem is...they are already to the point they can create such a thing. That contradiction arises from it being almost impossible to remember what you didn't know "back then."

I had been studying HARD trying to get "it," everything you need to do to flash a different ROM. Then, a day or so ago, in all that hunting around I speak of, someone mentioned "be sure you ... before you flash." It dawned on me that, when you think you are ready to flash, you aren't. There are things that should be done BEFORE. I started the "hunt" again as alluded to here. Then I said, dang, all us newbies would be well served if all the preliminary do's and save's were in one thread (preferably, ultimately in one LIST). Thus the reason for this thread.

If I am wrong, and other newbies really don't need to know these things, then yes, it can be done in PM. Others will never see it, and still be stuck in the hunting-all-over mode. Thus, I think it is desirable and helpful to others to put it in public, in one thread.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcord11758:
Once again no disrespect. Your point is taken.

Tibu to back up all your user apps, no system information. unless you want to learn how to use odin in the case of issues ;)

Android id changer to back up your android id

Rom manager to back up your current setup, and flasg clockwork recovery. Never restore a backup of one rom on top of another rom

Contacts to external sd, sim, or sync with google

Efs using root explorer to copy folder and save in pc

Odin to flash stock and or recover from software brick. Builds 1010 and above do not use one click odin
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] movrshakr:
No offense taken, and that's a great input. Thanks.

If others see anything else, please contribute.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tsncs:
Ok, I am also new at this, I have flashed 3 Roms. This is what I have done when changing ROMs.

Download Titanium Backup and rom manager. Back up your apps with Titanium Backup.

Download the ROM you want to flash.

Download Odin.

Turn on usb debugging.

Plug phone into the computer, pull down the notification window and click on usb to mount the sd card.

Open this up to look at files.

You should have an update.zip file you can copy to your desktop. You also should have a folder named Titanium Backup that you can save as well.

Once you have this, you can begin.

Take your phone to stock using odin. There are several tutorials available. I used this one,http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36 because I have a 1010 phone.

Once this is done, I push the voume up and down along with the power button. You will get a menu giving you a choice to reinstall packages. You need to click this, go to yes, and it will pull up to the same menu again. Hit reinstall packages again which will get you to clockwork recovery.

Now, I chose to wipe/factory reset to make sure my phone was "clean".

Then, I chose to apply the update.zip.

Then, I chose to install a zip file from the sd card, scrolled down to the rom file, and chose it.

Then it will install the Rom. You will choose go back, then reboot the system. Then your Rom should be installed.

I think I remembered everything. I used a few tutorials:

http://theunlockr.com/2010/08/02/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-samsung-captivate-vibrant/

and this one:http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10183875&postcount=4

Hope this helps!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] movrshakr:
OOPS. Thanks, but this thread is for things to do or save BEFORE starting the ROM change.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beryxil:
So... let's say that you didn't save your android id before you flashed... will that cause problems? :o
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcord11758:
You tell me. Did you? Are you experiencing problems?

it depends on the rom you are using. You may experience issues downloading from market and certain games may give you issues.

If you did not save it and you are not having problems then no big deal. You can go back to stock and save it, then flash again.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rmp5s:
I live in an area that has...umm...less than stellar tmobile service. Call/sms is ok most of the time but the data connection here is nonexistant for all intensive purposes. Can't use Pandora, can't really browse the internet, can't do much of anything that involves a data connection.

I was wondering if there was a way to improve this. The AT&T service out here has pretty good signal strength and 3g. I know both are gsm. There isn't a way to use their towers without getting a new number and sim, is there?

Is there anything else I can do to improve data reception? I love my phone and tmobile is pretty good everywhere around me...it's just pretty bad here.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJBunch1228:
Yeah you won't be able to ride ATTs network with a tmo SIM. The only thing I can recommend is try flashing different modems and see if any of them help increase your data. The modem bible is somewhere floating in the first couple pages of the dev section. Failing that, wifi when you are at home is gonna be the only fix until tmo gets a stronger tower out where you're at.
[Nook Color General] starkruzr:
My NC will no longer turn on AT ALL -- doesn't even flash the screen -- after maybe about the 4th boot of the Froyo on eMMC install I put on there. It's not my hacking it, that would make no sense as it booted several times before just failing when I rebooted it with ADB after deleting the YouTube app. I think somewhere in there something connected to power just failed. But I suspect if I get it warranty replaced B&N will just blame my rooting it rather than finding the actual cause of the problem.

So I want to know if the extended warranty is just a "no questions asked" type, because that would be helpful in getting my device fixed!
[Nook Color General] mattcosta7:
If it won't turn on at the store, they can't check. However this isn't 100% ethical, as you did make major changes, which could be at the heart of this.

Can you boot from sd at all?

Sent from nookcolor
[Nook Color General] DiscoPh3v3r:
I'd say go for it, companies shouldn't get mad at us for doing what we want for the device that we bought.

...But this isn't really the best train of thought for this situation because you want to get another one or your money back xD
[Nook Color General] JesterDev:
Had this same issue earlier. Have you tried booting without the sd card? Plug it into your computer, and see if it shows it as connected, hold down power and try it a few times.
[Nook Color General] Hisha:
Had this happen to me also. What I did was burn the ClockWorkMod to your SD card, also copy the factory boot.img and system.img file from the [ADV][DEV][STOCK IMAGE]Nook 1.01 stock dd images thread in development. Put it into your Nook, connect the USB cable to your computer and then hold the power button for about 20-30 seconds. It should flash to life, at least mine did. Once it comes up use the volume buttons to scroll down to the mount and storage option. use the "N" button to click it, then click on the mount /system option, then format /system option. then the same for mount /data, then format /data. Finally mount /sdcard, then on your computer using adb, use the adb shell command, and then use the 2 dd command from the thread mentioned above.

Rebbot after that and remove the sdcard, then do the power + N reset and the 9 reboot thing and you should be back at stock.

Hope that helps.
[Nook Color General] starkruzr:
Turned out to be that whatever was broken installed on the eMMC had caused the device to be turned on, with the screen off, but entirely unresponsive to the buttons. I brought it into B&N and managed to get it to power on once with the battery nearly depleted. Then I recharged it, rebooted it and it went black and unresponsive again. They swapped it for me with about 10% battery left. So what will happen is: it will get to the depot with no battery left, they'll power it up, flash it, and it will go to some other deserving customer ;)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jc8081:
I just installed miui and no front camera? Is there a fix for this. Also roam control no longer works on my phone. Any ideas? Thanks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PsHegger:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Android doesn't support the front camera befor Gingerbread
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blakeboys:
Do what? I have 2.2 Froyo and my front camera works great.

And as far as miui with front cam, i believe with the new version the front cam is working. Just nandroid and flash and enjoy.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PsHegger:
In the Gingerbread platform highlights google writes that the support of front camera is now available