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[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Just read an article on egadget about google censoring search results for utorrent and the like, and even though they're torrent sites...I think that's a step in the wrong direction.

Now I tried searching for utorrenton the epic and it auto completed, but rapidshare, bit torrent and stuff didn't.

I thought google left china just to avoid censorship :/
[Epic 4G General] greezestain:
Wasn't that just google instant?

Edit: Yup. FUD.

1) Go to google.com

2) Type your search in the search box. For example, type "rapidshare".

3) Now this is the hard part: hit the Enter key

Ta-da! Search results.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
I dont see this as a problem at all. They aren't censoring anything. They just arent offering up utorrent and rapidshare as suggestions as you type.
[Epic 4G General] rygran87:
Wait... You mean you can search for something WITHOUT clicking on a suggestion? :sarcasm:
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Unacceptable. As protest, I am going to start a Facebook poll asking if this is right or wrong. I will show Google who is boss.
[Epic 4G General] Darkk69:
We have choices...

There is always Yahoo and Bing. Google isn't the only game in town.
[Epic 4G General] thesals:
but when was the last time you heard someone say "let me Yahoo that"
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! I demand that when a regular user is searching for say "towels" torrents pop up as a suggestion so that the user can learn to download illegal music/software! this is a crime against human nature and net neutrality >.> lol
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Yahoo should pay people to start.
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
If they can spare the money
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
I don't need much. Maybe a few dollars to say it 10 times a day. Usage would spread like wildfire.
[Epic 4G General] styckx:
Search for "how do I get my dad to" on Google and check out the disturbing second suggested search term.
[Epic 4G General] knyque:
The first suggested search term was disturbing, I assume many people have been putting that in, so it went higher in the ranks.
[Epic 4G General] AndrewZorn:
It's not just Instant, it's the search suggestions.

Censoring search suggestions is still censorship.

I saw an article that showed things like "how to kidnap a child" being okay... I'm sure Google didn't deliberately say "okay" to that, but the point is they are worried about being sued so much that they are changing their image over it.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
I guess I'm the only one who understands the term "its the principle of the fact"
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Well, I guess I'm not theonly one who understands "its the principle" :) hahahh but anyways, I don't like what direction google might be going now...
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
LMFAO 'HOW TO I GET MY DAD TO SLEEP WITH ME"

To many incest people are taking over google so i can't blame them for censoring a little
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Yeah thinking about gtting your dad to stop drinking is pretty disturbing since they shouldn't be trying that, however, the first suggested search is....O_O
[Epic 4G General] iSaint:
lol i kinda wanna see what links come up if i actually search that x_x

....but im scared

UGHHHHHHHHHHHH

the first link said"i slept with my mom while she was asleep is that normal"

WTFFFFFFFFFFF
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
They don't want it so that if a person types in "Pictures of flowers" that they get something bad when they get to "pictures of f"

They aren't "censoring" anything, they're just trying to be careful about what they show people for searches they aren't actually making.

Torrent sites are often sponsored by porn sites, and probably contain torrented porn, so it's not impossible to see the connection even from a non piracy stance.

Only in America can we feel offended by having something free "taken" from us that we didn't really even have until a couple months ago. :p

There's seriously nothing to see here. Move along.

Edit: Reminds me of this bit from Louis CK

I was on an airplane and they announced there was high-speed Internet on the airplane. We were the first flight with WIFI, and I'm sitting on the plane and they go, open up your laptop, you can go on the Internet.

And it's fast, and I'm watching YouTube clips. It's amazing--I'm on an airplane! And then it breaks down. And they apologize, the Internet's not working. And the guy next to me goes, 'This is bull****.' I mean, how quickly does the world owe him something that he knew existed only 10 seconds ago?
[Epic 4G General] pipskicks:
Remember this when you're annoyed that you have to wait a few months for honeycomb :p
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
I'm actually searching for rapidshare and it doesn't pop up because they feel I'm not actually searching for it?

So why am I able to google pr0n sitesthat get auto complted if they're so worried about it?

I'm really offended by censorship of anyting. Open internet is a beautiful policy. Too bad you can't look at the big picture of things.

They are not similar at all. In your example, the wifi went down by accident. Google is purposefully blocking the suggestions...which is blocking potential visitors. If google were to say "insta earch isn't working correctly right now we'll fix it" then its ok, but purosefully blocking results is indeed a problem.
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
We're still waiting on froyo. GB isn't even a glint in the Epic's eye yet. Safe to say I won't be worried about Honeycomb (which, though I may have heard wrong, isn't intended for phones anyway) anytime soon.

I also don't feel like we're "owed" updates beyond froyo at all, and even that's only because they committed to it/promised it when many of us signed up.

XDA will beat them to the bunch with better stuff past froyo anyway. My hero is running gingerbread.
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
Really? Cuz typing in "thepi" still gives me thepiratebay, but typing in "myfreepay" does NOT give me myfreepaysite.com....your making way to big a deal of this man.

Case in point: somebody who is completely new to using torrents would NEVER think to start typing in something like "rapid" and hope to get a suggestion. They would search "torrents" and look at the results. Its not like they banned the search results.

THAT would be censorship.

And quite honestly, that story is the perfect example. Because this whole "search suggestions" controversy that you're fretting over is not applicable to you; only to people who don't know such sites exist. So they should be pissed because they don't have something they never knew about?

And let me reiterate: we're talking about "SUGGESTIONS"! I have some milk that has been spilled...come over here and cry over it.

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
The fact that it isn't perfect isn't an argument for anything. That's what they're aiming for. Google instant wasn't even in existence before a few months ago, it can only be looked in terms of everything google could do before, plus something else. How you feel "robbed" of something you never had is baffling to me. It's not a matter of "big picture." They have the right, and some might say duty, to be careful with what they show when you aren't implicitly searching for what's in the box. All you have to do is hit enter, the same as you've had to do the other 99.999999% of the time you've used google in your life.

If I had my druthers I'd say this is too broad, and they're going about it the wrong way. (Ie if someone searches "torrent Inception" then show it, if someone types "Inception" don't suggest a site they can steal it from).

However, this really isn't anything either.

In fact, as far as I can tell with allbeit limited testing, they seem to be doing what I suggested in my Inception example. Rapidshare works like normal.

Edit: If you type inception it doesn't suggest torrent sites, if you type "inception tor" it doesn't suggest "inception torrent", however as long as YOU make it clear you want to see that (aka type "Inception torrent") it works exactly as expected.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Let me reiterate for you.

It's the principle of the fact.

EDIT: Added an apostrophe.
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
WHAT principal?

If you or your kid go to type in "Funny videos" do you want it to suggest many forms of searches "F**king" and a screen of porn links when you hit "Fu"?

They aren't filtering the internet, they're filtering what they SUGGEST when you HAVEN'T actually searched for anything or finished a word that could lead to unsavory things.

There's no "principal" here. If you type "Inception" they aren't going to suggest places you can steal it. They aren't preventing you from searching for ways to steal it, and they CERTAINLY aren't preventing you from accessing those sites if you try to go to them. Google could pretend thepiratebay.org doesn't exist in all forms of search. That wouldn't take thepiratebay.org off the internet.
[Epic 4G General] edonnelly:
Google is a company, not the government. They make choices that they think will maximize their profit. Clearly they've decided that having some filtering will offend fewer people and cause less loss of business than having no filtering in place.

Google's not the only search engine on the internet. If you want to stand on principle, use an alternate search engine, click on the ads from it, and buy things from those who support the search engine you like. Vote with your wallet.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Are we still arguing about this? BY DEFAULT...Google is set to have Parent filter on..which can be disabled in preferences..yet I don't see people complaining about that..who cares what suggestions it offers..9/10 times the suggestions annoy me more then they offer help...

Its their choice what to "suggest" to you..but people have complained that they were typing something into google..and their boss comes by and sees the suggestion thats not so nice and put them on the spot...

I mean imagine you work for say "Broadcomm" and you type "Broadcomm" and it offers suggestion "Broadcomm Sucks" and your boss walks by ignorant on how that works and sees you searching for "Broadcomm Sucks"..now put this into perspective...thats the nicest thing you can get caught being "suggested"..it can be something completely disgusting and repulsive that they wouldn't even want to look you in the eye..

Filtering results with no option to turn off is bad..but filtering suggestions is really no big deal...seriously...
[Epic 4G General] AndrewZorn:
Oh please, this is a perfect example of a REAL most-searched term that DESERVES to be the first thing on the list of suggestions when you've typed "bitto". This is not like a parental filter, it's so very clearly a fear of MPAA/RIAA. Since torrent hosting sites are getting sued every day, despite hosting no illegal content, Google is probably worried about people using their search for torrents. It's surprising enough you can search by mp3 filetype, or only for results on MegaUpload.com, etc.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
filtering for content such as porn, etc... thats what safesearch is for (I would like to LOCK that off please, I can lock it all the way on...)

filtering on speculation based on $$$ or based on not throwing bad ideas such as pirating in your face... bull****... I understand their reasoning, but being google, they dont really need to.

I liked it when the top 3 'suggested' sites were highlighted, so you knew they paid to be there, and they were not the results of a purely hits based query... then you knew to AVOID them. If you are the best plumber in town, your hits should prove it, not your paid advertising. Or make a better website.

Yes, the instant thing is all new and can be looked at as a cute little feature (I see it as annoying half the time), but in reality, most walmart shopping american idiots will see it as even easier, as these people rarely know how to change settings more than the wallpaper on their desktop.

Google should stick to purely unBIASed results... having user set parental controls is fine, google picking whether you should see it is, just like China, and last I heard they decided to stay at the last minute... but that was a couple months ago.

Those advocating the business school view of google, should be the ones switching to Bing, not those who want actual results... as Bing is bull****... and poor yahoo, im surprised theyre still there. I blame the 'yahooooo' thing on TV... annoying.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
The results are unbiased...as for the suggestion filter...its up to Google to decide what to suggest...realistically speaking lets say your looking for lady gaga music and you search for "lady gaga" and it offers you "lady gaga free music torrent" as a suggestion...then when the user ends up in court, who is going to get blamed? Google..why? cause they suggested it to you! IF you searched for the results and got the results thats one thing..but if the search engine "suggests" it then they can be held liable...(while we all know that people are responsible for their own actions the courts here swing all ways...)

I don't see it as a big deal really..if your looking for illegal stuff you usually know exactly what your looking for and don't need google to offer you suggestions...filtering out suggestions is perfectly fine..I personally wouldn't even care if they suggested only Google products..who cares...

I mean how do you think they get these suggestions from? archiving users search queries...going to scream privacy violation?
[Epic 4G General] AndrewZorn:
I'm still baffled there are people that think this way. They aren't filtering out Lady Gaga torrent results (though that would be worse). If you type "bittorren", it is not suggesting the obvious. Think about Google as your internet mentor a bit less... we are talking about autocompletion here. They are worried about autocompleting something based on the draconian laws that surround it. Google isn't the problem, MPAA/RIAA is. People are getting hit harder by the law for copyright infringement than actual crimes.

I really do wonder what would have happened if there was internet and file sharing in the 1600s. Would famous paintings be "pirated", or "enjoyed by young and old, rich and poor, delivered easily and seamlessly all for the betterment of society and enhancing the effect of the renaissance"?
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Yes, this is not 'suggestions' or 'sponsored links'... its predicting based on hits, each time you refine the search with a letter, but theres more to it. They are intentionally filtering what they determine as undesirable results. That would not hold up in court, as the filters are based on hits and popularity. It is actually the opposite of what you are saying, google is taking more upon themselves to omit results than if they were to just give you pure results. Giving pure results would NOT be involving themselves in the decision process, whereas what they now do, they are attempting to influence decision making. Now, obviously porn would be the first issue, as it is the most prominent thing on the internet, so they are covered with safesearch, parental control programs, and god forbid actual parenting. What I found bothersome was that I turned off my safesearch, and entered linda love, screen went blank, said press enter. Pressed enter, and I get the wiki page for a person who is NOW all about PG values... so they are going to filter my instant results, even though I chose in my settings NOT to be filtered?? As far as torrents, etc... I am unaware of any laws against the file sharing method, ask Comcast.. the FCC nailed em for throttling them, as legitimate businesses or people sharing files that are not 'IP's use the method as well. It really is just more corporate involvement in the internet, and trying to nail it down to some drab virtual shopping mall... It just really goes against the spirit of other endeavors of theirs. And really, censorship is censorship, whether you feel it is justified or not.
[Epic 4G General] readermo:
please, an apostrophe.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
The internet was made to be open and free...no interference in the sharing of knowledge, art, games, music, whatever.

Saying "they won't miss somthing they didntknow about" is blatantly going against the idea of "open"

EDIT: however, I have nothing against user-initiated censorship, like puttin safesearch on strict when looking up a picture of a
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Internet was made for the US military.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
No...wasn't it the pre-cursor to internet?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tomus:
Here's an idea.

We use additional EXT partition on our SD cards to extend memory of 512MB Leos.

Why not turning it into a RAID matrix?

I use software RAID on my desktop Linux, why not here?

I'm not sure if its even possible.

It also might actually slow down the devices because of the differences between both memories, but it's worth a try, isn't it? ;)

Any one skilled and willed enough to do this? :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nilsk123:
Well, RAID0 would require both volumes to be the same size, or it will cap it to the size of the smallest one. So the best you could get would be 1024 for EU, 2048 for US.

So, how about you start begging Cotulla for the MAGLDR source (or find some way to implement it into Android) and dedicate the next two years to it :) Nothing is impossible, but it definitely isnt plausible.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tomus:
I'm not sure what are the differences between the desktop Linux kernel and the Android one (I actually think they are the same with some addons, can anyone clarify on that?), but there is support for software RAID in the Linux kernel. We could create a system partition in NAND, another one of the same size on SD and "software-RAID them up" ;) Whole matrix is being assembled during init, so no need for any low level code.

I guess we would need some initrd, or non-RAID boot partition with kernel...

It would also require to build matrix and filesystem on the device (instead of flashing already pre-created one) or flashing both NAND memory and RAID partition on the SD card...

Also software RAID impacts the CPU performance on IO. I'm very curious how it would run ;)

Talking about desktop kernel... Maybe I should try in the Ubuntu section? ;P
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Silberpfeil3110:
A RAID Partitioning would be great if we would use it like WP7 (which i have tested for a week), its working great but if i remember what wp7 does, if you remember the sdcard (you MUST reflash Wp7 to get everything to work again) it would be less attractive than before.... :/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] daemonfly:
Sounds like you want JBOD (which isn't really raid, but related, and usually implemented in the raid tools), and it's not required to have same size disks. If it's possible to implement, you could then add on a 32g SD card onto the built-in NAND to create a 33g virtual NAND(TMOUS).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-RAID_drive_architectures
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] jknightgr:
Hello. I'm new in here. half hour ago I got registered. so i have a problem with my HTC. For about 1-2 weeks now the device was restarting. 2 days ago the device never opened again. yesterday I tried the hard reset sequence and the device open to the message that i will lose everything and if i agree to press send but when i press it i get a green screen and nothing more. what can i do? what might be the problem? I uploaded also a video (but I can't post it cause I am a new user so ask me to send it as a pm) and a photo of the green screen.

thank you very much.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] Tribulattifather:
By all means, if you don't mind losing data that you had on the ROM memory, then hardreset.

Hard resetting I think is the best possible solution for you.

So press that green phone button when it tells you to ^>^
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] jknightgr:
I already did a hard reset. that's why i have that green screen. I did a hard reset about 4-5 times now. thanks for your answer.:)
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] Tribulattifather:
Ah, I see.

Try this:

Soft reset your phone while holding the camera button.

Does this get you to a screen where it's Red/Blue/Green/White Screen?

If it does, try plugging in a USB cord. If you get this far and see the word 'USB' in the lower left hand corner, then I think we can continue on.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] jknightgr:
I did it and it shows usb. what next?
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] Tribulattifather:
Awesome, I'm glad.

Next, Download and run the .exe:

http://rapidshare.com/#!download|16..._4.17.405.2_4.1.13.44_02.94.90_Ship.exe|56629

After this, all should be well.

Now if you want to flash custom ROMs like the ones that I make, just follow the directions on any one of my ROM threads from Top to Bottom ^>^
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] jknightgr:
before i continue. after the installation i will have the OS back? I will have to install it again? i had WM6. thank you very very much for all the help.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] jknightgr:
error 300: INVALID UPDATE TOOL.

THIS UPDATE UTILLITY CANNOT BE USED FOR YOUR PDA PHONE. PLEASE GET NEWER UPDATE UTILITY.

that's the message i got.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] Tribulattifather:
Hmm, okay, try searching mediafire for the user aizend1985 and look for an .exe entiled Wing something or another.. I'm out right now, so cant get the link for you.

Download and run.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] jknightgr:
i can't find the user. i'll try again. when you have the time please send me. again thankl you very much. have a great time.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] Tribulattifather:
Here you go mate, try this:

http://download1152.mediafire.com/he785npun6pg/yj1oz2m3mzm/TMo_Wing_RUU_Update_4.26.531.4.exe

If this doesn't work I'll try to do some research for you and see what we can do.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] jknightgr:
Error 244: Invalid model id. :(
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] Tribulattifather:
Okay. The last thing you can do is to try the dutch vodaphone herald version:

http://rapidshare.com/#!download|18..._4.21.172.1_4.1.13.44_02.94.90_Ship.rar|52629

Download and run the .exe from the Red/Blue/Green/White screen.

If this loads onto your device, then what we do is we HardSPL next.

*crosses my fingers for ya*

If this doesn't work, then have HTC try to repair it. Because I don't think there is anything else to do for it :1
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] jknightgr:
:'( Error 244: Invalid model id.

thank you very much for everything. at least I know that it can be fixed.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] marylex@29:
you reflashed your phone in some custom roms?

but it didnt work still and you tried the hard spl too.... can you tell me the history of your phone before it went like that, i am a technician and might help you on your problem.... what was the last thing you did on your phone? i will wait for your reply if it's ok....
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] jknightgr:
dear matylex@29

I have the HTC P-4350 for the last 5 years. the last 1-2 weeks the phone started to freeze and the screen went white slowly and then restart. after the 2 weeks the phone closed and didn't open again but the hard reset is working until the part that said format done (or something like that) and then i get a green screen (see the photo I have attached here). after that i made this post and the friend Tribulattifather (member of the site here) helped me with some info and gave me some files to try and install but the first file gave me this message

"error 300: INVALID UPDATE TOOL.

THIS UPDATE UTILLITY CANNOT BE USED FOR YOUR PDA PHONE. PLEASE GET NEWER UPDATE UTILITY."

and the other gave me

"Error 244: Invalid model id.".

there isn't something else. any idea?

thank you.