yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] fred_up:
There is no other way to get into BootLoader mode.

Have you tried booting without the SD Card and checked that there is no bent battery pins?

It may be a faulty volume button or other hardware issue.

If it was a faulty ROM or RADIO then you would still be able to get into BootLoader.
[Fascinate General] euklid:
Hi I want to know if there's a way to backup all my settings for my phone including being rooted and it's flashed to metropcs, startup files and settings. The reason I want to do this is that I want to start playing around with flashing other roms and reflashing it to metropcs myself, I did it with the stock rom but not sure if it will work with the new updates verizon just came out with, if I mess something up I just want to reflash it with my back up and go back to the way it is now.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] evolucja:
Click here and help us getting to the XDA main page.

This is an official thread about AndrOINC - BOINC project created by Sesef and OxyOne from Polish National Team.

Informations

Official name: AndrOINC

Motto: For Motorola Milestone freedom

Website:

Creators: Sesef and OxyOne from Polish National Team(BOINC.pl)

Special thanks to:

pontomedon - for creating the MilestoneRSA project and putting everybody one step closer to Milestone freedom

Platforms:

Windows x86 - supported

Windows x64 - supported(with app from x86)

Linux x32 - currently working on

Linux x64 - currently working on

GPU application ATI + nVidia - very soon

What is it?

AndrOINC is a BOINC project trying to break a 1024 bit RSA key used by Motorola to sign the boot and recovery partitions on the Motorola Milestone. If this key could be broken, we would be able to sign our own boot/recovery images, which would enable us to run custom kernels and recovery images on the Milestone.

//Will be updated later
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] evolucja:
Reserved for future use.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] zankyw:
Let's get started, I'm sure all of us together can achieve it. :)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] The Solutor:
What about the possibility of searching not just the milestone key but also the ones from other moto models to increase the audience ?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] DannyDroid:
It's already going to take till the end of time to find the Milestone without adding extra verables to the mix.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] The Solutor:
My skill on symmetric encryption is almost zero, so sorry for the dumb questions.

This mean that every motorola phone has a different pair of public and private keys ? There isn't a single public motorola key, right ?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] yixuexiaoao:
I have joined this project
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] thenotdone:
Team Canada ready for joining.

Thanks for the project hosting :)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] kezs:
just a sec - AndrOINC? nobody told me there'd be pigs involved!

seriously, though: congratulations and thanks for the effort. count me in.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] bijixda:
registered :D

what happened to previous boinc project?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] SudevG:
Unfortunately, the MilestoneRSA has been aborted and we have to start from scratch....

However the good news is that we are going to use optimized worker from PNT and they are goin to provide GPU support as well.. so we'll cover up the wasted work sooner than later.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] naresh9876:
joined in (tough its just a laptop). can't wait for the bootloader to be cracked.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] DigiK:
Alternative Quicker Method?

Started helping you guys out with some computing cycles. :)

I know nothing about encryption, but a team from Univ. of Michigan broke 1024-bit encryption quickly by altering voltage to cause CPU faults. We can easily control voltage on Milestone and DX...anyone looked into their paper and its application to unlocking the boot loader faster than a brute force method?

engadget.com/2010/03/09/1024-bit-rsa-encryption-cracked-by-carefully-starving-cpu-of-ele/

ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php?id=7551
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Malo87:
I'll join as soon as the linux client will be available ;).. Can i use it first and then switch to the one with CUDA support?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] djefkbefke:
yes, I think BOINC will just have to update the worker itself to support CUDA, not the whole client ;)

However, since they mention Nvidia and ATI support, they won't be using CUDA (nvidia only) ;)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] SophT:
man these WUs are fast. I'm doing 6 minutes compared to 12 hours on my x86 Win7 VM with 2Gb on my MacPro.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] djefkbefke:
They way I see it, you would have to alter the voltage at boottime since that is when the keys are being checked.. this is not the same as tweaking the vsel if this is what you refer to with "we can easily control the voltage" :(

So I don't know if would be that easy to do.. But hey, I'm not an expert or something ;)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Redh3ad:
or the workunits are very small...
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] cicciobellomo:
Joined. Hopefully we will win
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Homer314:
Joined. Thank's
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] k1l:
i am really sorry to play the pessimistic guy but what is going on here?

i meant i really really _really_ would like to contribute in any way to see the bootloader cracked/opened/etc. but this is still non-trasparent at all.

here is my sight:

a user starts a boinc projekt to bruteforce the public key.

alot user jump on it.

some polish guys fiddle with the worker (which shouldnt be done, because it was signed itself) and get astonishing credits.

the homeserver cant take that much tasks anymore and goes down.

the "mighty worker" aint released because of the security of the projekt.

the polish guys start a new projekt, want to donate alot of money and still dont release the code.

the code is disassembled and is not working right.

so here are my questions that i want to be answered:

why are pnt taking over a projekt started by the android community. why arent them here and answer the questions? only ones here speaking are some other polish guys who just tell what they heard anywhere.

what is behind all the this? is it just a race for credits for pnt to be the best in the stats or is it to break the bootloader?

why are there no answers to all the questions about the worker? why keeping it secret? whats behind the scenes?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] wesvista:
Will try to spread this around my school 200 pc will speed it a bit up :)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] dcarr622:
I think it's foolhardy of anyone to support this until the above questions are answered. The chances of breaking it are already low enough, why spend the time when what we're doing isn't even guaranteed to be worthwhile?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] MaW_PNT:
Some patience, please.

The whole thing is that the project was a bit rushed so that as many people from previous project can join it before they lose interest. I can't comment on whether there really is problem with worker not being correct as I simply don't have such information(neither was I trying to analyze it).

Although I obviously won't descrive any details about author's personal life, the project was launched in a rather unfortunate period when he doesn't really have time to maintain it as much as it needs to be done. I'm pretty sure within short period of time it should be resolved.

About lack of contact with the project staff.. Well! The best place to try and contact them is

project's forum on project's page

and while there doesn't seem to be so much reaction from them, I can assure you that everything is being read by them. The best place to actually catch them and talk to them is PNT's IRC channel accessible from PNT's homepage, I'd say during late afternoon GMT hours(I'm not them so can't guarantee they're there though).

This thread wasn't even started by anyone directly related to the project so I'm kinda baffled that some here keep complaining about lack of information instead of actually trying to contact project staff.

Of course I don't insist that you should keep downloading new work units to compute while it's not certain that everything's all right.

Cheers,

MaW
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] A-H_Zeto:
Honestly, in my opinion the best place for information is here.

The idea of this boinc project was born here on xda-devs by kholk.

The project was started here on xda-devs by pontomedon.

The future project should be lived here, on a global platform for everyone,

and not in a friggin forum where only the minority can participate because everyone speaks polish,

or a platform (androinc forums) where only a small amount of people is really active.

It's just as easy as that!
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] mrkite38:
Yeah, after seeing the critique from the guy who disassembled the worker, I'm out until the source is available and reviewed by some non-PNT xda members.

There's no sense in burning CPU time on this unless we're sure that we're running the right code. This is especially irritating since others (not I) already lost a lot of time on the milestone-rsa project.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] The Solutor:
Yes, just too easy

Frankly I never seen a so foggy way to manage a project, no communication, no ask for help, no source code on the project's site, no review of source code from a non PNT user, nothing.

But seem that most of the users couldn't care less, all they want are their toys unlocked
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] tongas:
hmmm... well, everything makes sense... now can we solve the small stuff and keep forward please???

Androinc project suspended on my boinc until further clarification.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] etoy:
i left a message here

http://androinc.net/forum_thread.php?id=40

hope it's clear enough to induce someone of PNT to come here and explain what's up.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] evolucja:
I'm writing on behalf of Obix007, one of the AndrOINC creators.

He can't take an active participation in this thread, because of a limit:

He will post here declaration as soon as he will be priviliged to do it.

http://androinc.net/forum_thread.php?id=40
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] i2gh0st:
Pm ower moderator for a more fast answear ...

Just saying ... I saw that message to but it's a little hard for me to do that from my smartphone
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] etoy:
was away from my pc for a while..i contacted ElCondor via PM (he posted the article on XDA portal)

hope we can solve it easily (and friendly of course :))

thanks evolucja and Obix007 for the quick replies

mam nadzieje ze damy sobie z tym rade bez problemòw :P
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] naresh9876:
i just pm'ed egzthunder1 (Portal Admin & Sr Moderator) bout this.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] dcarr622:
Hopefully mods can make an exception in this case I think it's clear this guy has something valuable to contribute so I'm sure they will let him post. I support this new XDA rule to keep n00bs off of the dev section but in some cases it's clearly contradictory to everyone's benefit.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] mrkite38:
Definitely the exception, but yes. :)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] thenotdone:
Not sure, why he can't post the response on those forms, then someone copy/paste here with link to source... It would provide a quick response and encourage more people to process wu's sooner (granted that the response is viable and clears up the situation.)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] skotua:
When i try to join all i get is an error,

"No work available to process"
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] ppau0822:
joined! looking at getting the atrix 4g...this is worthwhile
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] MaW_PNT:
Yes, it's nice that not everyone who's questioning the situation begin with insults and then just keep trolling.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] devwithzachary:
I am still having problems completing any tasks, the progress can get to anywhere up to about 2% before it will then suspended and then once it starts again it drops back to 0% and starts over.

Any ideas guys? i had no program running the old project and have no problem running over boinc projects
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] MaW_PNT:
http://androinc.net/forum_thread.php?id=16

use advices from both posts (set the cpu thing to 0 and mark the memory thing checkbox)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] devwithzachary:
thank you so much worked a charm :D
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] CuBz90:
The Motorola Milestone and the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10, both have a 1024 bit RSA key signed to the bootloader.

There are a bunch of people in this part of the forum trying to break the key on the Motorola Milestone, and there are also a bunch of people trying to break the key on the SE Xperia X10.

The way I look at it, is if all of those people work together to break the Motorola and the Xperia, one after the other, there would be a much bigger chance of breaking it.

Here is the main forum for the Xperia X10 Dev

Also the Bootloader cracking thread for the Xperia X10
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Caz666:
My thoughts exactly...
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] djefkbefke:
Just release the code, let some sceptic people approve it and let's get crunching again? :D
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ming-Z:
source code/algotithm available

Well. Given to one of the project admin post, it seems that source code has already been published here.

Discussion about it are available on the BOINC project here and there
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] The Solutor:
No is not

Just read what girino says in one of the discussion you linked

The fog is still with us.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ming-Z:
I totally agree with your point (and I already noticed it in the discussion I linked)

My post was just to report "official" sayings to XDA members.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] evolucja:
Well, I have to say sorry for PNT team. I'm sad that even within the one team we can't get to the one word.

As long as they won't change informating methods I'm stopping supporting their project.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] s0d:
Who cares about that you stopped supporting?

Why you are writing on behalf of PNT and talking like someone who has wrote a program used in project? for clarity evolucja is not the author of the project, so please stop making mess.

If someone have a questions just go to project forum and ask.

peace ;)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] k1l:
http://androinc.net/forum_thread.php?id=44

still not telling the truth.

nice job, fiddled at the worker to stop the original projekt. took on the job but just to spoil it.

you guys are a shame
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] The Solutor:
I care, and I bet that a lot of people cares also

Respect to evolucja.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] naresh9876:
The project is going to shut down on the end of january

http://androinc.net/forum_thread.php?id=44

all the time which we have done crunching the numbers are useless now. they are shutting down the web due to lack of maintenance fee's.:(:(:(:(

what a waste of time and electricity. guess we are just gonna be stuck here with a locked bootloader. sigh.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] s0d:
i was talking about evolucja and that he stopped calculating... I'm still running boinc since i know about project ;) I'm 100% volunteer because i dont have milestone.. my g1 is enough for me ;)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] XVilka:
Looks like not finance problems - main issue in this project...

http://androinc.net/forum_thread.php?id=20

http://androinc.net/forum_thread.php?id=41

P.S. I'm deleted any links from our wikis ( and-developers.com and droid-developers.org )

shame on the PNT!!!
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] leobg:
what a waste. I will turn off mine for now.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] TheSSJ:
Dudes, please think also about this:

It is not sufficient to only provide processing power, if someone really wants that bootloader unlocked, then I think he/she can also donate 1 euro to the BOINC Team for the server maintenance costs (I don't know if they really need 80€ and also I don't know if the code is correct or not) but ROM developers get donations from the thankful users and so I don't see the point of not donating to polish BOINC team for thankfulness of setting up this project...

Well, I'm not interested in any kind of discussion now - I'm no PNT dude, I'm just a single being expressing his opinion...:D
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] k1l:
donating is a fine thing. but this was too suspicous from the start:

for me it looks like:

they kinda ddosed the the old project to take it over. maybe they thought they could get some donations for their other projects or used our cpu-power for smth other.

they dont communicate about the current used worker or the server.

we should get up a server with the old setting from pontomedon.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] s0d:
Here is a link do source code (that gave one of the autor):

http://code.google.com/p/milestone-rsa/issues/detail?id=3

I can't understand people who complain on comunication and that the autors have own forum? But there is official project forum, there is place to talk about it.

Next thing is, obix007 (coauthor) is not able to write msg on this forum (his account have some resctriction(wtf btw) ) so do not be surprised he is not responding here.

Here is spec of server that is running the project:

6 core thuban cpu, 5x1TB hdd RAID5, 8gb ram, 1x ssd, double connection 2x25 Mb ;)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] evolucja:
Why do you think I'm writing on their behalf? Every post contains only my opinions and informations I personally have. Sometimes they wasn't reliable but it's really not my fault. I'm all the time saying everything I know. For now, every information I had was inferenced from IRC on which I was online most time a day.

Do you think it would be better if anyone care about replying here?

For certainty:

I must stop supporting this project(which I mean replying on your questions regarding project here) because I'm banned from the official IRC channel and I'm not able anymore to inform you about it. The reason of banning was talking about XDA. Do you see irony here?!

Second thing, why turned I off my BOINC client?

- still noone has confirmed that used alghorithm is 100% correctly

- soon they're going to completly rewrite algo which propably means resetting current work

- they completly don't care about XDA cause we're only 1/10000 in whole project power

- someone said that it would be even better to delete my project account to stop "burrowing in hard drives"

Never said I am.

I don't want anyone to stop counting AndrOINC. I still really hope that this project will successed :)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] thenotdone:
Algorithm doesn't produce a valid result. What a waste of time and energy. I quit.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] vagelisda:
If motorola is watching,they're loughing their ass off...

Sent from my Milestone
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] s0d:
@evolucja:

Now you know why? ;)

one of the authors of AndrOINC said he is not able to write message on xda forum because his account have wierd restriction or something (don't ask me why he "can't" create another account).

If is so many ppl who have doubt, why can't read and check source code? (for those lazy: http://code.google.com/p/milestone-rsa/issues/detail?id=3)

Peace ;)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] MaW_PNT:
Well.

Just to make at least something clear: if the server shuts down at the end of the month it

doesn't mean that the project is killed

. Server admin has merely stated that it will be suspended untill the financing problem is resolved. The plans about new workers (i.e. GPU) and algorithm haven't been cancelled.

Secondly, new algorithm will not make the work up until now futile. As far as I know it will simply pick up where the old(current) worker will finish it's work.

While I agree that the project team could be a little more talkative, I also explained earlier why there is no response from sesef, the programmer - he's deadly busy with his real work for next week or two.

Only mistake from PNT's side was starting the project too early, therefore I think if it will have a little break at the end of the month it will only help the project team to polish their work without all this complaining flowing from this thread.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] The Solutor:
The doubt are still there just because someone has already checked that source code (posted by anonymous) and someone from the PNT has replied him that the actual code is different from that source.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] s0d:
I see, that link what i posted was gave by obix007 yesterday so I was thinking it is actuall version.

@MaW_PNT: I completely agree with you.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] i2gh0st:
Omfg ... he is not allowed to post in this forum due to a 7 or 8 posts restriction
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] The Solutor:
Is the same code discussed here, http://androinc.net/forum_thread.php?id=20, and was uploaded 8 days ago.

I don't know if it works or not, nor I have the skill to check the code myself, but someone thinks that it doesn't.

No reply other than a message that says "our code works".
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] evolucja:
You must be kidding me right now... You've just quoted a message which I wrote on Obix007's behalf. Can you say me what's wrong with it? I still don't see anything bad in writing a message for someone who can't post it individually due to account limitations. Another thing that I was pleased by Obix007 to do it which goes that I was officially permitted for posting this message.

He won't be able as long as he's not going to make here 10 posts. Everybody knows that he doesn't do it just because he doesn't want to talk with us. If he really does, it would take a few minutes for him to post 10 short messages in few threads... I even think he's a little happy because he's got a good excuse for his 'non-replying behavior'.

But of coourse it means! If the project goes down almost everybody will lose all confidence to the PNT team. Then, money problem won't be solved if there won't be anyone interested in project. As you can see stopping AndrOINC even for few days would be equivalent for completly project abandonment.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] KinChungE:
I'm a milestone user right now and of course I joined this project

Hope my Phenom x6 1055T @ 4GHz will help a bit:D