yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Vibrant General] bradycl_84043:
Can someone post (or re-post) a link to where T-mobile or Samsung says the update is only via Kies?

This assumes that millions of Vibrant owners a) are PC-savvy enough to update that way, b) run Windows in the first place (unless there is a linux version of Kies that I don't know about, please post link if you do)... while not *utterly* outside the realm of possibility, when you step back and look this is a pretty ridiculous thought that doesn't pass the smell test for me until I see some kind of proof.

Which leads me to the point that unless you have gotten a text or update notification on your phone from T-mobile with layman-friendly (pre-noob) instructions on how to use kies to update your phone from stock eclair to stock froyo, I don't believe that what is on Kies necessarily corresponds to what will be pushed OTA.

In fact I think it's quite possible if not likely that last second changes/fixes may have necessitated a final KA7 last night to hit the airwaves with "today".

Anyone have a screenshot of an OTA *NOTIFICATION* having been sent to them, and what form that takes and what instructions it gives? That's the proof I want to see.
[Vibrant General] presence06:
crap..dp

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[Vibrant General] presence06:
richiehd:

photo of their source:

http://yfrog.com/f/gy2nwxlj/

their tweet:

http://twitter.com/#!/TmoNews/status/28494230598979584
[Vibrant General] swehes:
For the Mini Kies notification

http://yfrog.com/f/gy2nwxlj/

As I wrote in a couple of other threads. You are right. This is just a voluntarily upgrade. And I think it was mainly to shut up to angry power users. As proof we have the KA7 leak that just came out today and the version Kies is updating is KA6. The mandatory OTA will be coming some time later but this seems to be a move to quiet down the press about the whole Froyo update issue. If this was the official update from T-mobile we would probably have the source code today as well, which is what we here on XDA really want.
[Vibrant General] epakrat75:
Interesting. This is the first time that I've seen any kind of documentation showing that TMO won't be doing distributing as an FOTA update. Thanks for the heads up KA7. Still running JL5 while I've been waiting for things to settle down somewhat. Hopefully KA7 will be the last official release for the next month or so now.
[Vibrant General] presence06:
any word on what version KA7 is? 2.2.1?
[Vibrant General] bradycl_84043:
Agreed... and personally I'm waiting for Nero 6 (7?). But I'm going to be very interested in what T-mobile says *externally* today.

A promise of an update today from someone that high up at T-mobile... I'm sorry, when average josephine-housewife who bought a pretty Vibrant from the nice man at the T-mobile stand at Wal-Mart finds out that it *isn't* just a click-click-click on their phone like JI6 was... there's going to be a *lot* of very pissed off callers (and T-mobile phone support techs).

This effectively makes it an update that isn't really an update for everyone who has a Vibrant, not even everyone who has a Vibrant on T-mobile, and if that's the way it's left I'd be very surprised. I don't think that that is the message they want to send right now. "See, we updated today. Sorta..."

*This* update isn't mandatory, isn't FOTA. There could be an OTA 2 hours later discussed in their "Community". Not in the scope of the update being discussed in that screenshot.

It's entirely possible, now that I think about it, that KA6 is where features and so forth freeze, and that KA7 (and higher) are more focused on fixing anything that could break during OTA update, which could be (supportably) from JI6 *or* JFD.

We'll just have to see, but right now all we have proof of is that there is an update, and it is on Kies. I think that there *has* to be an honest to god OTA coming. To not do so almost guarantees that you will end up having a very high number of customers still on 2.1, perhaps over 50%, out of sheer laziness or lack of information/confidence to update. That support nightmare, again, just doesn't pass the smell test.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Also Kies Mini is refusing to update my phone, and I'm not sure how many people will haev a similar issue but it downloaded a bunch of **** and told me my phone could not be upgraded 5 times in a row.

How many battery pulls do I have to do before the damn thing actually updates?

Terrible experience, IMO, and a huge waste of time seeing as how some of us don't have the fastest internet connections out there...

That software also tends to choke spectacularly on Windows 7 (both 32 and 64-Bit) and AFAIK it does not run on Mac or Linux computers.

On the flip side, T-Mobile's coverage is bad so they put themselves into a corner when it comes to FOTA updates. I'm not driving 20 miles just do download a smartphone update because they only have GPRS and Weak Edge (1-2 Bars) around me...
[Android Apps and Games] Marurban:
Hi,

can anybody write a simple app which will be able to move to screen which i want via widget, i can get this effect in LPP shortcuts (scrolling wallpapers), but i'm using ADW. Is it possible to do or its must be added by ADW?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] pepito1:
Hello! I flashed the original firmware with this guide (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=8758819). Before flashing, I changed android boot animation with Absolute System Root Tools, and then I flashed the phone. When I turned it on, LG logo appeared, and then android splash appeared (the one I put from Absolute System Root Tools), but there's a loop. Android splash continues and continues appearing forever. How can I fix it?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] kite86:
Try to do a wipe, boot the phone while holding home + vol_down + power
[Optimus One, P500, V General] pepito1:
It worked perfectly! Thank you!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dominic77m:
I'm tired of the GPS not working accurately on my vibrant. People seem to forget what's the true reason to use a mobile phone in the first place. Who really needs a faster processor and sharper resolution when you can't use it for something as basic as navigation and finding the number and address of your local grocery store?

This is why I have switched to a Garminfone. I do not have to pay for a data plan. Who really surfs the net on a tiny screen? that's what laptops and tablets are for. Can anyone here say their Vibrant GPS works just as accurately as a Garmin device? I want to know if it's because I have an older Vibrant model. Have the new Vibrants fixed the GPS issue completely? My Garminfone is accurate in locating me within 2-10 meters and can find me in 2-3 seconds! Plus it was made to integrate directly with your car, so there is a windshield holder with power outlet.

No real software can truly fix the GPS since it's a hardware limitation. Probably why my Garminfone is heavier. It uses a real GPS, not aGPS! And it's made by Asus which is an excellent brand!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJBunch1228:
No flaming intended, but HOLY CRAP a Garminfone?

Ouch dude.

You picked a GARMINFONE over an SGS? The ONLY thing that phone does better is GPS.

That being said, the GPS on my Vibrant works great. I have no idea why some Vibrants can't see a bird to save their lives, and some work. Supposedly the newer hardware makes it more likely that it will work.

Good luck with your new GPS that can make phone calls.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cccheel:
LOL at picking a Garminfone over the Vibrant.

On second thought...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<composes himself>

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipeench:
Weird... I thought the true reason to use a mobile phone.... was to call people?? :p
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omegaspin:
I thought about the Garminfone briefly before I settled with a Vibrant.

Software updates for the Garminfone are really non-existent and any modding/hacking Roms is almost extinct as well. The device is on life support at best.

That being said I've seen Vibrants with superb 5 second GPS locks by just spending 10 patient minutes doing the GPS hardware fix listed in the sticky.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] regP:
I do. Everyday. Especially at work.

My GPS locks faster and recalculates less often than my Garmin.

True. There is a hardware issue with the GPS as stated in the sticky in the General Section. But once that issue is corrected the GPS is just as good as any standalone device I've every used. There are about 90 other people who will back me on that too. Oh and my phones GPS is set to Standalone, no aGPS here...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dominic77m:
those that are replying, keep in mind....

does you GPS work properly without a Data plan???

my point is, if you're paying an extra $30 a month which is $330 a year for data when there is wifi in just about every mall, mc donalds, star bucks...why even bother?

and on top of that, why pay for data if you already have wifi at home and in the workplace??

Seriously, no one truly browses a full web page on a phone. You do that on a laptop or tablet. The Garminfone has android 2.1. So what is if it doesn't have 2.3? The issue is always going to be T-mobile will be a few builds behind the latest one. Are you really going to save the world with 2.3???

It's all about functionality and value!!!!

I can be in the middle of nowhere and get GPS directions, address and telephone numbers without a data plan! No paying $330 yearly!

So back to my question, does your GPS on your Vibrant work accurately without a data plan or wifi?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dligon:
omg is this thread for real. me and my wife had a garmin when they first came out cause of the buy one get one deal. we couldnt give those crappy phones back fast enough. really garmin phone why dont you just get a tom tom duct tape it to your vibrant if you want gps so bad.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blizzard1017:
I looked at the Garminfone for about 10 minutes. I am not going to bash your choice because everyone has different needs for their devices. I will however say that my decision to NOT go with that phone was I read a ton of bad reviews on overall hardware and software issues. Plus I really hardly use GPS unless I am bored.

If you truly need GPS and just use a phone to call and text then that is what suits you best.

Good luck with your purchase, come back in a few weeks and prove us wrong I guess
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr2t32:
After reading through this post, I don't why the OP even created this post in the first place when he knows for a fact that our phone requires a data plan for GPS to work. As for me, I am out most of the time and it's just much more convenient for me to use the data plan to go online and email without having to look for a place with wifi. On top of that, my replacement phone sees 11 to 12 birds and locks on to 6 to 8 birds in about 10 to 20 seconds. Maybe the OP regrade switching over and is trying to justify himself for the switch.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dligon:
he might as well get a cup and string along with a star chart to map with for location for a phone.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gigamaster89:
The irony is freaking delicious.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dominic77m:
i see a lot of people here are new to TECHNOLOGY. I've been around computers since the first desktop computer came out. Many on here started using computers only when facebook became popular. The point is, the true value in technology does not lie in paying for a device at it's birth.

I repeat, $330 a year for what???

It's $330 for service...not a device that can be resold and make half your money back in a year. What do you really need so badly to download from the internet that requires you to get a data plan instead of using wifi?

The initial bad reviews for the Garminfone was because it only supported 1.6 at the time. 2.1 isn't that bad. And get this, Garminfone is made by Asus which is the best quality PC brand!

Of course the vibrant is better...well it ought to be if you're paying $330 more a year!!! It all comes down to price! You expect more if you pay more!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thegreatcity:
If you bought your Vibrant through Tmobile, you could have easily swapped it out for a newer model without the hardware problem at no cost to you. My GPS is working fine, and yes in some cases it fares better than standalone units.

People use their phones for browsing all the time, that's kind of the major point of a smartphone...

As for the data plan, I use Audiogalaxy to stream my entire music collection (upwards of 200 gigs of music) from my computer at home, to my car. How would you do that without a data plan again?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] regP:
What about everyone who doesnt have wifi at work. Those who don't visit malls or fast food restaurants. What about the fact then even those who do have wifi at work also have many restrictions to go along with it. I'd rather have the network with me at all times than to have to go somewhere to use the internet

Again... You assume everyone has wifi at home/work.

Again. I use my phone for full web browsing on a daily bases even at home. As do many others who do too. You shouldnt make statements like that without knowing peoples habbits for a fact.

Cool story. Whatever works for you. But don't pretend you know whats best for everyone just because its best for you.

Again. Yes my Vibrant is just as accurate and in some cases MORE accurate. And it is possible to use the GPS without a data plan.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJBunch1228:
O, rly? Source?

Unlimited access to the cloud and everything that entails, at speeds that are often faster than the average wifi connection. This also works when in a car, on a bus, at the beach, in the mall, in an airport, while doing handstands, practicing your backflips on a trampoline, hell even when I'm walking to the office, dropping my drawers, and dropping a deuce all over my ****ty Asus netbook

Its consistent convenience. Social Networking, streaming radio (including jacked into my car stereo), XDA app, certain games, Market access anytime, etc.

Agreed. You pay less for a less enjoyable experience.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thegreatcity:
Exactly, and with Maps 5.0 you have offline route caching, so you can still navigate when you lose data service.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dominic77m:
people really need internet on a tiny little device 24/7 for $330?

Sure everything is case by case, but $330 in this economy when MOST people already have wifi. This is how ridiculous cellphone plans are! It use to be a device for talking and now people describe it like a NECESSITY!

This is exactly why Americans are always broke! They don't know the meaning of value. It's one thing that you're Donald Trump, but MAJORITY of people don't need internet service with them 24/7.

If you're using your mobile device for tethering, then that's a good thing...but when you already have wifi at home like most people, this is completely a waste!

Does anyone have proof that the Vibrant GPS works great by itself without a data plan. I'm looking for proof online. Maybe a video or article.

Hey, if the aGPS works like real GPS on the vibrant, I'd completely switch back.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fioricet:
i only pay 180 a year!! got tmo to lower it to 15 dollars a month when my contract expired and its been that way for 2 years now
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] regP:
The vibrants GPS can operate in 3 different modes. One of which is STANDALONE. meaning the phone gets its data directly from the sats. Meaning no network connection is needed.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dohclude:
I did a few searches and couldn't come up with an answer. I'd like to use the "Voice Search" app to send sms text messages using speech recognition, and it works great when I'm connected through my Wifi at home. I'm using a T-mobile prepaid account, it's the $15 a month/unlimited texting plan and there is no data connection of any kind save for my wifi at home.

Whenever I run the "Voice Search" app and I'm not connected to Wifi, I get the "Connection Problem" error. Now I can't for the life of me understand why I need a data connection to send a voice activated sms message, and I generally only need it when I'm driving around in the car so I can't very well be connected to my wifi.

Is there a workaround for this???
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dohclude:
Anybody? Bueler? *crickets*
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] mattpall:
I am running Vegan B5.1 and I keep getting FC's on Kik. Has anyone got this working? If so, how? What rom are you using, and what method for install? (ADB, Ti Backup, Package Installer etc.)

Any help would be appreciated.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] biceps09:
only in the new CM7...
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] rohitlepa:
Any update

I have the stock ROM and kik does not run on it at all. Immediate force close on launch. Has anyone got this working on the gtablet stock rom?

Thanks!
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] jmbach:
I have had Kik working in any of the CM roms for the g-Tablet. Could not get it working on stock TNT, TNT lite (only tried on version 4.2 and below) and the VEGAn builds. Have not tried Notion Ink or Caulkins roms.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kidram:
Hi i am kinda new to this and i would like to learn to how to develop themes. Can somebody give the guide on how to start?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] okolowicz:
I apologize in advance for being snarky but the question had it coming. Here is my newly finished "Where to Begin Guide."

GUIDE ON DEVELOPING THEMES

I. Where to Begin

Go to Themes and Apps subforum and read the threads with catchy headings like:

"How To Theme Develop for Windows For Dummies in 10 easy steps"

"Making a theme"

"Theme Resources"

"Jairomeo-The Ultimate Android Themeing Guide"

"Easy steps to Creating Your Own Theme"

and many more just like the above

II. Reread Step I
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] A.J:
hi everyone

installed the connection setup app on my windows phone and configured my phone in it ... but now its open gprs every time im not connected to wifi and wanna play games or some thing .. so it take all my crediiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit ... i wanna turn gprs off pls ... help me. ... and thanks in advanced
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] russpattaya:
Go to settings/mobile network/and you will see Data conection. turn that off

Russ
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] A.J:
thanks buddy find it there ... Many thanks
[General Questions and Answers] Mac4Wii:
I updated to froyo 2.2 (leaked version) on my samsung captivate, and I was wondering if there was a possible way to downgrade back to 2.1.

*The only reason im not liking froyo 2.2 at the moment i cant seem to learn our find out how to root it...

Wanted to root to rom a custom rom?

"noobie question"--> if i was to downgrade to 2.2 back to stock 2.1 and root it to have super user, i could then be able to install a custom rom? OR what would other people suggest doing?

Could someone point me in the right way with a link or two maybe, or some suggestions?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Huee:
How i can use x10mini as a microphone in my computer ?

I search programs only for symbian ffs :{ .
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Ok so yesterday, i was setting up shortcuts to bookmarks for my fellow employess on there epics and one person with a droid 2.

First thing i noticed the droid 2 is ugly square weird looking device also has the ugliest looking dullest screen EVER!!!

The epics bookmarks look nice with a nice red ribbon :) the droids bookmark is an ugly gray box that has something in it which i couldnt tell what it was cause the screen was not vibrant/bright at all.

Overall seriously this super amoled screen is amazing compared to all other phones i compared however the evo and the incredible dont look too bad but Super amoled wins!!!!

Now to service on verizon, ugh 3 bars in a 5 bar area for sprint.

Now when i come across places with both full bars i opened up the browser loaded the web page sprint killed verizon in loading it.

In this somewhat a review...

Overall: Epic=Brightest Prettiest Screen EVER.

Sprint vs verizons service and 3g speeds= Sprint one

Just something i noticed today and i must say im happy with sprint and the epic just wish they would hurry up with the official froyo.
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
well... ok. that can be said about almost any phone's screen compared to the epic. truth is the only thing i'll miss when i get my next phone is going to be the amoled screen
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
Why not get another Samsung?? LOL

Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
[Epic 4G General] v3rk:
yeah my next phone can't be anything but samoled or its further iterations. anything less is a serious turn off
[Epic 4G General] Jayavarman:
Check out Galaxy S2
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Hes probaly fed up with the delay of froyo.

Im not im satified with my epic on 2.1 stock rooted with mobile ap and after looking at all my friends different screens and phones i love it!!! i played with sense and is pretty cool but launcher pro is still the best!!!

Im not in any hurry for froyo to come out til we have a working infrastructure hotspot!! I do like that noobnls already got 2.3 running!! cant wait for cm6 with infrastrucute wireless tether and even cm7 probaly no far along after the official source drops. but im in no hurry or going to ***** and whine cause i know my phone still blows all other phones out of the water. :)
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
Yeah, I have a friend with a Droid 2 and another with a Droid Incredible. Playing with both of their phones made me very happy with my Epic. Have to say at least here, Sprint's 3G is noticably faster than Verizon's. I'm 3 hours away from the nearest 4G market.
[Epic 4G General] rocket321:
Same goes for the evo...I'll take a far superior screen and better gpu and wait for updates a few months longer if that's the choice.
[Epic 4G General] shook187:
Yes the Epic screen is ridiculous ;)
[Epic 4G General] Comando156:
Please do not do any more "reviews". You clearly do not know what you are doing and showing alot of bias, and you cannot compare the 2 netowrks from the area you are standing in and conclude one is better.
[Epic 4G General] ghostrid3r:
Verizon as a telco company is crap and their mobile department isn't much better. If it weren't for the fact that the lazy workers at verizon were unionized, BS contracts, and verizon's exclusive deal to provide the federal gov. with BB services, Verizon would be worse off than Microsoft in the mobile department right now.

/end rant
[Epic 4G General] crazybliss:
Well they prob are in pretty good shape right now, they have the new moto and lg dual core phones comin (not to mention the iphone also) along with their lte network.....they gotta be in good shape
[Epic 4G General] AproSamurai:
If they're so bad how come they're the company we go roaming to when we have no signal? I mean damn yeah our phone may be better but you can't judge it based on phone with disimiliar parts and two different carriers. You can't say you would have posted this if you were in a dead zone and only the Droid 2 was working. I appreciate the review but the bias invalidates the evidence. In Journalism of any sort you limit yourself from a full bias. Partial do exist.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
All I'm saying is the 3g speeds compared and are noticebly faster on sprint.

Sent from my awesome epic 4g