yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] WarlockW:
Well .. your one of the lucky ones then :/

I have tried .. and it never works for me ...

But Again .. I am dumb .. and may others are too ..

We Need a SIMPLE Way to back up these dam roms ..

That works 99-100% of the time .. and dont have to worry is this rom compatible with this partion ect.

MAGLDR 1.11 works 100% and is easy!

Thats all I am Saying .. SIMPLE Being the key word~!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Skellyyy:
Imagine a backup inside of MAGLDR. That would be great. I want to try different ROM's but like you, find CWM too confusing. Even if I do back up a ROM using CWM where does it save? And how do I restore it if the ROM I flashed isn't to my liking? Does the whole ROM be in the file or just your data, apps, settings etc?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] birdra:
use cwm

wtf is confusing there?

put the files on sdcard and choose boot AD sd (in MAGLDR),done

seriously. no need to invent the wheel a second time because it is too difficult to use (it isn't)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] WarlockW:
Right! .. See ? I an Not the Only One !

I did talk to Cotulla but he seems to think ..

Ya, I though about such feature. But it looks to work very slow!

Like I care if its SLOW ~!

SLOW Compared to what ?

Reinstalling everything ? LOL
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jose makalolot:
It is saved in separate files, data.img, cache.img, boot.img, system.img, recovery.img. You can find it in clockworkmod folder in your sd card.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] WarlockW:
Sigh ..

Yea .. Well if it is that easy .. Why Does it never work for me ?

When MAGLDR works everytime ?

And Others .. ( Have you seen All the problems in the forms? )
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StephanV:
I really don't like this arrogant tone you're using. It's obviously you who doesn't know how you gotta take care of all this stuff, so a little more respect towards others trying to help you won't harm.

Anyway, here it goes.

Yeah, I don't really see any tool backing up a future or old ROM, cause you know, that's not possible. Nandroid is really just 1 thing, and it always works.

Where that goes is explained in step 3. Patience, young padawan. Which one you need is pointed out too: 250M, unless your rom dev told you to do otherwise. Having problems reading?

Why you need it? Because it's a necessary file, obviously. If you wouldn't need it, you wouldn't have to download it. I don't think you're after some technical in-depth analysis either, so just do as you're told. Easy, right?

Surprisingly, DAF.exe is in the zip file you just downloaded. Why do you need to do it? You're installing something here ffs, do you expect to magically install CWM without doing anything?

Yes it does, that's also mentioned in the thread.

Which menu's? Boot AD SD is indeed in the Magldr menu, flashing a zip is indeed in the CWM menu's. Yes, it's in a submenu.

Yeah, that would indeed be easier. So quit all the whining and use CWM, seriously.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tdizzle404:
can any one help?

I tried installing CWM using the tutorial show many times and get a load kernel error does anyone know what the problem is?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheATHEiST:
yeah...PEBCAM
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tdizzle404:
well your the first to give me an answer! Thnx! I hit thnx" But i dont know WTF that means? "lol"
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
I thought cotulla is putting recovery into the next version of magldr, isn't he?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dardasatla:
me too...finally i give up from installing CWR 1.2 and went for the CWR 1.0 and every thing went alright.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Skellyyy:
So if I want to change my ROM to try out a new one and keep my current one in the exact same way it is now I just use nandroid backup on CWM? How many ROMs can be backed up at once? Are the files big? I only have a 4GB SD. What about if the ROM I'm going to be flashing needs to be formatted and partitioned? That'll mean the backup will be deleted?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] WarlockW:
30 years of computer using and I Cant figure it out :/

Ok .. Thanks for the help .. I see your WAY Smarter then me ..

( 30 years of computer using and I Cant figure it out - I know I am Dumb. - Just ask The Wife .. )

But I think your missing the point of this thread ..

This is not a help thread for Clockwork ..

I am trying to express my feelings and MANY others I have seen in other threads.

That we need a SIMPLE.. way to backup the ENTIRE NAND And Do A Restore.

Maybe a VERY Striped Down Ver Of Clockwork Of Some Type ..

And I Would Hit The DONATE Button ..

So Freaking Fast It Would Make Your Head Spin!

And I Am Sure MANY Others Would to!

I Am Hoping A DEV Or Someone WAY Smarter then All Of Us Will Make

A Program That Will Do this .. Thats What This Thread Is About ..

I am NOT In ANY WAY Being "arrogant" ( Nor Am I Trying to be! )

But Thanks ..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tdizzle404:
1.0 huh? maybe ill try again did you use a tutorial?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StephanV:
30 years of using a computer doesn't make you know how to install CWM, so no worries there.

I'm not missing the point at all. You're asking for a simple way to entire entire nand and do a restore. Nandroid backup is exactly that. It's simple, it backups your entire nand and you can restore it. There would really be no point in creating another tool which does exactly that too, complete waste of effort.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dardasatla:
well...download CWR 1.0 copy the 2 files to your sd card just like CWR 1.2

if you want different partition size just change the flash.cfg file to what ever size you like (up to 400 MB!!)

and run DAF file for flashing.

here is my flash.cfg file:

misc ya 1M
recovery ya|ro 5M
boot ya|boot|ro 5M
system ya 360M
cache ya 10M
userdata ya|asize|hr allsize

works great for me with the rom im using
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] AngelDeath:
Well I read all the threads and thought I would chime in, first Titanium Backup for apps is great, has a few flaws, but the advantage outweighs the flaws. As for a clean backup, Dont think there is one. The idea is it has nothing to do with being dumb to use CWM. At first I was confused as well and very frustrated, but I figured out what I was doing wrong, and some of the suggestions didnt work.

FIRST and foremost, one of the MAIN reason CWM will not work is your SDCard, that I can tell you right off the bat. It is the key why people will have trouble.

I dont have the answer, but if you want WarlockW I'll help you try to get CWM working, and once you do, you'll never go back to another way, it is way too simple, and this is coming from a Android programming idiot. I am more a windows know guy, so if I can figure this out, I'm sure I can get it working for you. PM me if you want or I keep an eye on this thread.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] WarlockW:
Well Thats Silly .. We Can Always Use MORE tools!

( For Us Dumb People That Cant Use Whats Available )

If you went by that .. we wouldnt have 10000's Programs ..

No Need For Vista We Had Windows 98!

Just Because Titaium Backup Was There First ..

We Dont Need My Backup Root - No Need For Another one!

:/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StephanV:
U serious? Aside from the fact that we indeed didn't need Vista (what a fail release), it's got a lot of features not found on Windows 98. This comparison is so stupid I'm not even sure why I bother to respond. No one here's saying there's no need for apps to improve, but you're asking for someone to recreate a tool that does exactly what CWM does.

The TB & MBP comparison is probably just as lousy. First of all, they sport an almost completely different range of features. Secondly, they're both commercial products. They get sold. Devs make money out of them. Competition is normal with commercial products.

CWM and pretty much everything here on XDA is free and open source. In open source projects people work together on 1 big project, instead of competing. There's no use in competing in open source projects. You should know that, with your 30 years of computer experience.

Now there's basically two paths for you to go:

a) You keep on arguing why you would need two exact tools, resulting in basically nothing because no sane man is going to put his precious spare time in such a project.

b) You get your ass moving and install CWM. We're here to help when things go wrong, but follow the guides first. That includes carefully reading the instructions, which I don't really think you did last time (considering the questions you had at the 7 steps I posted).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Richy99:
why not use one of the many backup programs available fromthe market?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Skellyyy:
Guys do you need to boot in to MAGLDR then go to AD 2D to get to CWM?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Archer:
AD SD, but yes.

OP - ClockWork Mod is exactly what you are asking for. If you can't figure out how to use it then that's a different thread, but CWM IS the answer to your question, 100%.

Incidentally, if you find CWM difficult to use then I really don't understand how you got Android running on your HD2 in the first place. CWM is sooooo easy to backup and restore with that it's ridiculous to ask for anything else.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] WarlockW:
Well .. thanks for your input .. and for insulting me and the other 1000's of people that can not use or don't want to use clockwork ..

I am Looking for a Complete NAND Backup Program more like ..

Acronis or Ghost That Does an Image of the complete Nand Memory.

I figure .. If we can backup using "clockwork" maybe it could not be that hard

to make a program .. that will Image the Nand Memory from Sec. 0 - 99999.

Again .. I am Not a programmer .. Nor do I claim to be one ..

But it seems to be that it could be done. And Be Less Headache's For Us Noobs!

Problem ..

I have a 98% working rom .. 1-4ma Everything is working .. I have it all setup ..

All main settings are done .. all icons are were I want them .. All programs I want are working ..

All Email Accounts are Configured .. and working ..

Nand was installed using MAGLDR 1.11 - and a NAND Rom Install.

Using ..

boot ya|boot|ro filesize+2M boot.img

system ya filesize system.img

cache ya 40M

userdata ya|asize|hr allsize

Or

system ya|boot|ro filesize system.img

userdata ya|asize allsize

Now .. how is clockwork going to help me ?

Can I Make a backup > Using Clockwork ? With this setup ?

Can I Restore >?

Or do I have to redo Everything For the 10000th time ?

And maybee This time not get a 98% working Build ?

Toook me 1000's trys to get this one working ..

Oh Did I tell you that the system.img is 420meg ? What If Its 560 ?

Just Asking .. Cause .. Um .. As Everyone has pointed out .. I am Stupid and a Noob.

( Not saying you are Wrong! Cause You know I Probably Am! )
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bates_1974:
I don't know how accurate it will be from memory, but I think a few NAND builds you can actually convert from a daf flash to a clockwork flash if you look it up, not 100 but I'm sure it's possible, then if you do that that will be prepared. On your current build which should be the same, use titanium and back that **** up to your SD card, then copy to comp. Now install clockwork, partition your SD card if required, reflash your Rom which if I'm current and you've found the guide you can do in clockwork now, skip all the setup, reinstall titanium and restore. Now restart, go into clockwork again and backup, that will put you at a default for all as you want, had a few beers but but just trying to be helpful from selective memory, happy to be of service in the morning if required.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StephanV:
Nope, you'll have to reconfigure everything once more. However, using Titanium backup this really isn't that much work. Most recent roms have also gotten pretty stable right now.

To-do:

1. Install backup app(s). I use SMS Backup&Restore and Titanium backup, both free on market. Perform backups.

2. Install CWM: instructions in respective thread. Follow them closely and you will be alright.

3. Install a ZIP rom (should be indicated in topic title) through CWM.

4. Configure your ROM until you have everything to your liking.

5. Boot back into CWM and perform a Nandroid

6. Repeat 5. every once in a while to have recent backups.

7. Enjoy life
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] psyCORe:
Where are these backup file was stored ? isit in visible partition or not visible (like ext3/4) ?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StephanV:
They're on your sdcard in a folder called nandroid.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] yslee:
I just want to chime in a bit...

Documentation isn't the strong point here. A lot of times I had to go back to some obscure posts, because a significant amount of people here are old-timers, who like to assume everyone knows everything. Don't! Coupled with some very rapid advances in hacking and the various permutations of software tools, it sets the scene for a very confusing landscape. Plus there's a lot of noise to the signal here, which makes the combing of information quite difficult.

I can see that many devs do try to make it easier, but this is negated by others being obscure when building on their work. It does get tiresome (I've been in a similar but less prominent position) to repeat instructions or knowledge that should be common, but the thing is XDA does attract a lot of new people, and being a fairly visible place on the Internet means it will continue to do so for some time. Also I note a large number of non-native English speakers here, which doesn't help in transferring knowledge.

Still, it's been a good stay here... so let's not get too hostile over each other. Some people are just slower to pick up, doesn't mean they should be a target of ridicule. It can be a bit frustrating when one is out of the loop but trying to understand (before any young whippersnapper tries to tell me it's easy, go attend a convention on a subject matter you have no idea about, and try to hold a topical conversation. I'd like to see how long you last). Chill, and thanks to all who try to contribute!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] WarlockW:
Looking for a Complete NAND Memory Backup Program more like ..

Thanks For you kind words ...

I guess I suck at making my self clear .. I am was trying to ask for

a different solution for backing up the ENTIRE NAND Memory ..

More Looking for a Complete NAND Memory Backup Program more like ..

Acronis or Ghost That Does an Image of the complete Nand Memory.

Something Universal .. That would not matter if you use NAND or ZIP Or > Whatever comes next! to install Android ..

I figure .. If we can backup using "clockwork" maybe it could not be that hard

to make a program .. that will Image the Nand from Sec. 0 - 99999.

Anyway .. Thanks for everyones Input .. and help!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mattfmartin:
They even have videos to show you how to install clockwork FFS.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] savecahd:
but no matter how many times we do it as soon as you hit boot ad sd it goes back to the main menu. :confused: arrrrrrhahhhfhkdjfhljdbg:confused:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Skellyyy:
I flashed it and all but when I go to AD SD it says "SD Open Kernel Failed" or something along the lines of that. Any help?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StephanV:
Have you copied those two files (zImage and initrd) to your sdcard before flashing, as instructed? In the root folder?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mattfmartin:
Or you got dirty ass sd cards. I don't think it's a problem when thousands of people are running it with no problem whatsoever. Also don't use magldr to copy the files over. As everyone knows it causes corruption.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Archer:
LOL!!

I can't believe you got a "thanks" for that answer! Classic.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MattOG:
:D
[Nook Color Android Development] modembug:
I have not seen these mount points posted anywhere for handy reference...

These are mount points for CWM and ADB

•mmcblk0p1 - Boot (vfat)

•mmcblk0p2 - Rom

•mmcblk0p3 - Device specific files (serial number, etc) and Factory.zip (flashable zip that returns NC to factory settings)

•mmcblk0p4 - Logical Partition (Nothing of use here)

•mmcblk0p5 - System

•mmcblk0p6 - Data

•mmcblk0p7 - Cache (vfat)

•mmcblk0p8 - Media (vfat)

These are mount points for Nooter .2

•mmcblk0p1 - SDCARD

•mmcblk1p1 - Boot (vfat)

•mmcblk1p2 - Rom

•mmcblk1p3 - Device specific files (serial number, etc) and Factory.zip (flashable zip that returns NC to factory settings)

•mmcblk1p4 - Logical Partition (Nothing of use here)

•mmcblk1p5 - System

•mmcblk1p6 - Data

•mmcblk1p7 - Cache (vfat)

•mmcblk1p8 - Media (vfat)
[Nook Color Android Development] mattphoner:
Lol, I thought this thread said "moot" points :P
[Nook Color Android Development] fattire:
Besides here, you mean?

Your info is wrong. mmcblk0 is the emmc. mmcblk1 is the sdcard.

Also, the stock file system types are ext2 for system, ext3 for data. Gingerbread uses ext4 for both.
[Nook Color Android Development] modembug:
dangit i suck! I looked on nook devs last night for that list and didnt find it!
[Nook Color Android Development] modembug:
I have updated the mount points to reflect both nooter and adb/cwm...
[Nook Color Android Development] starkruzr:
In the guide modembug linked on AndroidCentral (see here: http://forum.androidcentral.com/bar...how-install-nookie-froyo-internal-memory.html), it says to do this:

mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mmcblk1 /

mkdir tmpfolder

mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p5 tmpfolder

cd tmpfolder

rm -r *

cd ..

mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p6 tmpfolder

cd tmpfolder

rm -r *

cd ..

umount tmpfolder

rmdir tmpfolder

Why is this necessary? Specifically, why the remount to rw of /, when you could just create a directory in /data for this purpose?

Also, why is it apparently not necessary to delete the contents of /boot (mmcblk0p1) but it is for /system and /data?
[Nook Color Android Development] modembug:
Boot gets overwritten data and system leave remnants i.e. dalvik cache which causes boot issues
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] S3RIOUS1916:
I Installed a boot up screen. I found another so I installed it thinking it would over write the other and it didn't. How do I remove one of them?

I have HTC Evo 4G. I'm new to this so if more info is need let me know.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rujelus22:
It depends on the rom you are using you will need to move the new bootsnimation.zip to same location. Usually it needs to be in the /media/ folder. Just find where the bootanimation.zip is located on your rom and replace it with the new one. Hope that helps
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] S3RIOUS1916:
Yes it did. Thanks
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nishantmehta9:
hey... sorry to hear these problems from you. This guide me a lot as me also having rooted vibrant and i wanted to upgrade to 2.2 froyo. but now i have to find the solution of your prb. let you know and then get update. Pls. let me know if you find the solution for these probs.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nixn88:
i still don;t know let me know when you find it out
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lbridges:
1. If you successfully updated through mini kies, then it does not matter if you were rooted etc before - the update should have taken you back to a TMO/Samsung approved config.

2. Tethering (and some other stuff) is enabled in 2.2 without being rooted - download titanium backup from the market and try running that - it will fail if you're not rooted.

3. Flash 10.1 is installed with 2.2 - what exactly are you trying to do that makes you think it isn't working.

4. Wifi does suck juice in the new implementation (on my phone anyway), I only tried it once to verify it's working so can't help with any extra config options.

5. Can't help. sorry.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darrien13:
On 2.3.2 is the ClockWorkRecovery replaced every time you reboot like it did on 2.3.1 unless you changed the script?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
Yep...same script is reinstalled with 2.3.2.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darrien13:
ok thanks it's safe for me to update then.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darrien13:
2.3.2 update and nandroid?

Ok I want to update to 2.3.2 but lets say I wanted to go back to 2.3.1 could I just restore a nandroid or could I just flash the rom?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
A nandroid of a 2.3.1 system should overwrite the 2.3.2 updates.

2.3.2 update only affects stuff in the /system partition and the recovery image
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darrien13:
ok thanks I was just asking before I did it.
[Focus General] jklier:
I have a Bury Technologies blue tooth hands free kit in my truck. It always worked fine with my HTC Tilt. I can get my focus to show that is connected with the kit but nothing works beyond that. Anyone have trouble with older hands free devices and been able to get them to work?
[Focus General] genzbenz:
I have a 2008 Nissan Altima with a built-in Handsfree kit. My Focus pairs with the Altima, but is completely unusable. I think this has to do something with the choice of Bluetooth stack that is used. My old Verizon XV6800 and AT&T Tilt2 worked with the Altima and used the Widcomm Bluetooth Stack. Unfortunately, both of those phones pretty much sucked when I used bluetooth headsets. My AT&T Tilt (original) and my Focus both don't work with the Altima and I know that the Tilt uses the Microsoft Bluetooth stack. I *think* the Focus uses the same stack as well. With BT headsets, the original Tilt and Focus sound MUCH better than the two phones that I owned that were on the Widcomm stack. I've given up on the Altima working with this phone because I don't anticipate Nissan releasing a firmware update for it. If you handsfree kit has an upgradable firmware, it might be worth checking into.
[HD2 General] abusaaad:
I updated my phone (HD2 T-mobile) via internet website and when I finished the updating process, the phone did not work at all.

I tried more than once to switch it on, but it didn't respond. I took the battery out and put it in again, but nothing happened.

When I connect the phone with the charger, the charger light doesn't become on.

It seems that the phone is dead!!!. What do you suggest to solve this problem? If you think it is a hardware problem, what is the name of this hardware
[HD2 General] kurt-willems:
Take a look at the battery pins. If thy look Okay and even then you can't power on your device, contact HTC service.