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[Vibrant General] jdanisevich:
Via Engadget:

"Sorry, gents, but your conspiracy theories are wholly kaput -- not only is a Samsung Galaxy S getting Android 2.2 stateside, but the speedy software update will start rolling out tomorrow on T-Mobile USA. That's the word direct from T-Mo chief marketing officer Cole Brodman, who tossed the news to PC Magazine this afternoon, saying that the delay was a "quality control and timing issue." Apparently, there's extra work involved in skinning the operating system and adding exclusive apps like WiFi calling -- though he didn't confirm either would specifically appear in the Vibrant's build of Froyo. Here's some more welcome news, though: the gentleman promised that in general, Android updates on T-Mobile will be more prompt from now on, as the firm's shooting to update all phones to new versions within five months of Google making source code available. Does that mean we should expect some Gingerbread men by May? We're not totally sure, but we imagine that T-Mobile's rivals aren't sitting still -- we'll probably hear some fascinating, captivating and totally epic news about Froyo any minute now."

Now about that source...

Another thread on the matter:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=922008

(Thanks StefanB86)

EDIT: Sorry, this should have gone in general, and I didn't realize it was already there, my applogies, just exciting. Mods feel free to move or delete.
[Vibrant General] chib1panda:
If that is true. This would be great not only foe those who are still stock but for devs
[Vibrant General] StefanB86:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=922008
[Vibrant General] dkarale:
Will the Vibrant be able to upgrade from the Samsung Mini Kies software on 01/21/2011 instead of waiting for the OTA update?
[Vibrant General] }{Alienz}{:
**** yeah!!!!!!!!!!! I bet its KA6.

THE GOOD NEWS IS:

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[Vibrant General] techpreneur:
Skinning of what? The leaked roms were working fine.
[Vibrant General] samyvibrantuser:
Yes. Its probably KA6
[Vibrant General] MWBehr:
Place your bets on how soon after that Krylon or codeworkx has Gingerbread running on our phones ;)
[Vibrant General] samyvibrantuser:
My guess its pure marketing... they wanted to introduce Vibrant 4G and sure they know will be heckled for Froyo so to get more attention for new phones. They added saying Froyo for everyone and now we introduce new phones. its bait to make people buy new Vibrant 4G.
[Vibrant General] x3nhydr4lutr1sx:
wifi calling? really? what's the difference between that and google voice?

edit: wait, wifi calling means you get to use your mobile number for that. awesome! *craps in pants* can't wait till this gets ported to Captivate.
[Vibrant General] samyvibrantuser:
End of March?
[Vibrant General] krylon360:
I already have it running. Just working on bug fixing now.
[Vibrant General] ULiAsuj10:
TWO words..SOURCE CODE and DEVS......
[Vibrant General] dasunsrule32:
You should have official Froyo source soon, so building a kernel designed for the Vibrant will be nice... :D
[Vibrant General] dasunsrule32:
That's four words... :confused: lol
[Vibrant General] kcp877:
Maybe a dumb question, but for everyone on here already running stock deodexed or custom roms that work extremely well. What benefit is there to getting the factory upgrade to froyo? I had an iphone on tmobile for the last two years and everytime a release came out the phone just got slower and crappier until I finally bought a vibrant. I just wonder how much better samsungs release is going to be if you guys already have such nice working roms here.

Also, everyone that jumped at the official updates always got jammed up with problems.
[Vibrant General] battlekry:
About the Ninja breadz, I suspect we will be in a near stable beta phase by March...

Oh yea..

Edit: and I mean Vibrant owners using it while in beta.... Please Krylon ;)
[Vibrant General] jdanisevich:
It means they'll have to release the source code. That's essential for some kernel modifications, allowing for overclocking, better battery life, etc. without the bad battery life of the I-9000 for example. Even though we may have gingerbread running smoothly by then...
[Vibrant General] RoZm X:
Gingerbread.. March? Maybe.. I'm exited but I'm betting february 29th.. Just saying. :o
[Vibrant General] ruskiiwrx02:
is the download speed in your signature for real? on a vibrant 3g? on tmobile? if so how did you do that? what modem are you using?

please let me know... that seems pretty ridiculous. Thanks in advance.

very excited for GB and Official Froyo source code goodness!
[Vibrant General] carlos20h:
When i connecto my phone to kies mini i am getting unregistered device i just get back to stock with this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=728698

Could you help me Thanls
[Vibrant General] cashyftw:
Huh? I said this earlier..

Thanks for calling me a troll though.

-speed demon
[Vibrant General] kcp877:
Ka5 and ka6 work fine, calls are loud and clear, the jl builds I couldn't get clear calls on wifi.
[Vibrant General] Lo N Slo:
do we have to download the Kies software or will the update eventually be pushed OTA? Its past noon where I am, wondering if this update will happen cuz I wanna get back to my old rom asap
[Vibrant General] kcp877:
If we just got a leaked ka7 dont see this happening today unless it's ka7. Everything I read says no ota coming.
[Vibrant General] lawalty:
A few mins ago i checked Kies mini and BAMB there was the update.

Guys, make sure you shutdown and restart Kies mini. I had it up all morning every now and then re-plugging my Vibrant into Kies mini to NO success, but then i closed Kies mini and restarted it, it then downloaded an update. I then re-connected my Vibrant and BAMB there was the update.

I guess the update is not OTA.
[Vibrant General] kcp877:
So how is it better than any if the leaks? Ka_ what version?
[Vibrant General] lawalty:
It KA6. damn, its not letting me download it because my battery isn't fully charge. I gotta wait!

Should i sue? LOL just kidding.
[Vibrant General] carlos20h:
I got it with mimi kies is ka6 let so how is working
[Vibrant General] kcp877:
Tells me nothing, just says latest firmware 1/19/11
[Vibrant General] MonkeybDb:
after like 2 hours of trying to get kies mini to work on our laptop, i tried it on my new computer (its 64bit and has never worked before) it works first thing *facepalm* anyway KA6 is downloading as i type lol. same day as the update is released is the same day as my new G2 comes. *facepalm again*
[Vibrant General] kcp877:
I'm just going to go grab the ka7, no point waiting around for something that's already been improved on right? Voodoo kernel should be ready soon as well.
[Vibrant General] lucky 69:
look in your phone info should see build # there i think
[Vibrant General] ikevinnyii:
i thought kies was for international versions of the galaxy s, but if it does work for us vibrants can someone link me for dl
[Vibrant General] Bl4ckpheniX:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=806042

Here it is..

If it helped ya hit thanks ;)
[Vibrant General] carlos20h:
After getting the update through kies can i just use the same method to root the phone?

Thanks
[Vibrant General] lexluthor:
Updating to KA6 via Kies vs ODIN

I'm on KA5.

I'm assuming that I can't plug into mini kies and update KA6 official.

So, would updating to KA6 via ODIN (the pure stock file in the dev forum) be IDENTICAL to flashing back to the previous OTA and then updating to KA6 via mini Kies?

Would there be anything different at all (bootloader, modem, rom, etc)?

Seems like just flashing KA6 via ODIN would be an easy way to go for anyone who's not currently "stock".

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[Vibrant General] cappysw10:
You must really hate being wrong. Good on ya my Vibrant brothers and sisters!
[Vibrant General] lawalty:
I'm still waiting for Kies to finish installing this upgrade. I got a quick question for those of you who have already upgraded - can you WiFi tether? Or has T-Mobile figured a way to charge customers for WiFi tethering?
[Vibrant General] samven582:
will I lose my root and unlock if update to froyo? I am running a vibrant on att.
[Vibrant General] emuneee:
ROOT - yes

UNLOCK - no
[Vibrant General] Lo N Slo:
OK I ODIN'd last night, just updated to KA6 through KIES, I don't get what all the hype is about?

I think Im going back to Nero w/ voodoo. Is there any reason I should stay on this ROM?
[Vibrant General] Emama:
cant root by z4root after upgrading to KA6,

which one can I use now?
[Vibrant General] lexluthor:
Superoneclick works on the froyo builds.
[Vibrant General] davemw2:
Ok. I rooted using super one click. Now how do i flash anything? with 3e i can't get into cmd recovery. If anybody has a link or if there is a way to switch back that would be great if its known.
[Vibrant General] here.david:
No prudent executive would think of going forward with a deal unless extensive due diligence has been completed in the areas of legal and finance. This needs to be extended to Customer current, previous, and future complaints.

“...'Due diligence' is a somewhat technical phrase used to describe a range of assignments, legal obligations, reports and investigations which take place in business...”

Suggestion: ALL senior management and Board Members must sign-off that they personally updated each and every previously sold model phone their company makes/sells and also those companies which allowed on their network said devices BEFORE any and all new devices are released. That way, the pain points would be both known and FELT not as a “number' rather as an experiential fact.
[Vibrant General] degeneration:
There was no reason to go to it. I don't see why people are doing it since our dev's have tweaked up a very similar update and/or a newer one.

If you need 2.2 but don't want to ruin any warranties with tmobile would be a reason to use the OTA... but even that is a pretty lame decision.

Anyone with "good" reasons to stay at the official 2.2 is probably paranoid...
[Vibrant General] Emama:
lost my haptic feedback after rooting by superoneclick :eek:

Update: nvm reboot solved it (seems)
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
Where is super one click located? Market? Sorry for the question, i always used Z4Root.
[Vibrant General] lexluthor:
Same thing with me. And the back button didn't work either.
[Vibrant General] Whitehawkx:
This is pretty common and has happened to me a few times before. As the first user stated a simple reboot will fix both of these issues.
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
Ghahahhahahhahh I don't know why people are so0o excited for a tmo froyo.

only thing to get excited about is source.

maybe ppl have gotten used to running a S****y OS.
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
Its ok, but no lagfix and it just isnt near as fast as the Axura ROMs i was running.

I know quadrant scores arent everything but with Tmo Froyo i only got a 954....lol

Was getting 1550 w/ Axura with voodoo
[Vibrant General] jay661972:
Much faster than JI6, but the only addition is wifi.calling and mobile ap. Tw, axura, etc roms qay better than the official. Waste my time on that.
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
Now with this leak, maybe we can get wifi calling on future ROMS. Btw, just texting this from my phone, it is slow too type. Very laggy.
[Vibrant General] Lo N Slo:
Yeah I got Paranoid. I thought that if the OTA came to my phone and I was already on 2.2, T-mobile would get angry and remove my warranty haha. Im waiting for an exchange phone that was supposed to arrive today, so I had to ODIN my **** anyway before I sent it in for exchange.

I guess Ill be running KA6 over the weekend but I honestly don't see the hype in it because NeroV5 and Eugene's close pwn it so hard already.
[Vibrant General] RoZm X:
Finally froyo on our vibrants..

officially that is.. I'm excited for the source and how it'll help our devs do some crazy stuff with our phones..

... Right? Haha..

Is there any chance of seeing CM on our vibrants? :/
[Vibrant General] mac642:
Whats the best/easiest way to root KA6?
[Vibrant General] moxie13:
Glad I have Axura
[Vibrant General] systematic:
4g? i switched to vibrant from mytouch 3g and they made me switch to the 4g unlimited plan(same price as mytouch web), lol just wierd... is there a speed in between 3-4g?
[Vibrant General] mmelo76:
Moved of: Samsung Vibrant > Vibrant General

To: Samsung Vibrant > Vibrant Q&A

Please put your questions to: Vibrant Q&A
[Vibrant General] jdanisevich:
Sorry, this was more of a general discussion gone wrong than a question. I should have at least edited the title. My apologies. I wouldn't have any hard feelings if this thread was deleted all together.

Thanks for everything you do!
[Vibrant General] davemw2:
Do I have to odin back to stock before updating being as im already running 2.2?

And I actually talked to tmobile and they said the updates WERE rolling out.... but are people actually gonna keep the official firmware on there phones?

Sent from vibrant using xda app

Nero V5

Voodoo

Sbg themed
[Vibrant General] reddragon72:
Feb 29th????? of 2012????? dang that's a long ways out to wait for Gingerbread HAHAHAHA just busting on yea ;-)

and for the guy who said to port this to the captivate for Wifi calling.... ah Wifi calling is a T-Mobile thing only..... read up!
[Vibrant General] dasunsrule32:
This means that official CM7 support will finally available, nothing unofficial!
[Vibrant General] krylon360:
CM7 is Ginger. CM6 is Froyo ;)
[Vibrant General] dasunsrule32:
Yep, but there is Froyo source now, that means that cm7 is coming soon. ;) You think all the other phones that are getting cm7 have GB source? Nope. :)
[Vibrant General] cashyftw:
Omg omg omg yes I'm ready to have a overclock that doesn't have horrible battery life, and of course CM7!!

-speed demon
[Vibrant General] timmay2t:
What's the difference between dumping the source from the phone after it recieves the OTA, and the Samsung released source code?
[Vibrant General] dasunsrule32:
we're not dumping source from the phone, dumping compiled packages and binaries... ;)
[Vibrant General] jdanisevich:
A system dump doesn't contain the source needed to compile the kernel.
[Vibrant General] Exel:
Yeah, I have the same question, pretty sure we do.

Disable voodoo, and all that junk, right?

Great news, by the way, if this is the case, I'm going to odin back to stock when I get home from school. c:
[Vibrant General] kcp877:
Ok so assuming this is it what do we do, odin jfd or is there another version we should be on, believe I had ji6 when I bought mine.
[Vibrant General] MWBehr:
Correct about the lack of GB source for other phones, but froyo source won't change much/anything for them as you can see from their issues list, they've already worked most things out with just AOSP (just like Krylon has):
[Vibrant General] dasunsrule32:
you'd need to roll bacl to ji6, undo any lag fix, backup your data, etc... :)
[Vibrant General] dasunsrule32:
different phone, but that isn't official cm support. Now there is source, it should get looks from teamdouche. :)
[Vibrant General] battlekry:
Dasun, I am not sure what your speculating.. Vibrant owners will not have the source code for 2.3 for quite some time if ever.... Although the CMO for Tmob is on record saying all Android devices will have updates 5 to 6 months after an update is made available.... I am not holding my breath though...
[Vibrant General] dasunsrule32:
I'm not speculating anything ;)
[Vibrant General] dligon:
so who's going to hold their breath waiting for this release..:cool:
[Vibrant General] cashyftw:
Ahh hopefully theres a CM for us soon! (that doesn't require me to carry 2 batteries around)
[Vibrant General] greeneyes513:
I did a backup using rom manager(stock) So if I restore that and flash the ji6 kernel should I then be able to get the update?
[Vibrant General] mmalott:
Finally......

I wonder if all the ranting, raving, and complaining thru social networks helped any?
[Vibrant General] benifactor:
3-5 months in the article i read? that would give thim a little under four months to give is 2.3....
[Vibrant General] sadkorean34:
I'm gonna make a wild guess..

Its going to be another Eclair update lol.
[Vibrant General] :
So is the source supposed to come out when the update is released or is that what will be released in 5-6 month? Bit confused...
[Vibrant General] MWBehr:
I have no idea what you're talking about here. Yes, the i9000 is their "primary" build model because it has the greatest concentration of features for the Galaxy S line, however their expressed plans is for a simultanious release on all Galaxy S models. Also, incase you haven't noticed, we've been booting the "i9000" 6.1 beta3 for just as long as they have. In fact, krylon already shared his code with them which should include basically everything they need to go from i9000 to vibrant.

I know you're excited, but there really isn't much that vibrant froyo source is going to give them that they don't already have.
[Vibrant General] player4lifeov:
I don't know why.everyone is so happy about getting cm6 or cm7. Team whiskey or one of the other devs will probably have a much better rom then anything cm6 or cm7 could offer. Then again I could be wrong, just my two cents
[Vibrant General] mainevent3405:
THIS is my question as well. What is OFFICIAL Froyo gonna bring us that we don't already have?
[Vibrant General] hitman818:
Better kernels, better modding.
[Vibrant General] MWBehr:
I don't wish to in any way knock what our devs are producing for us. I also didn't care much about CM6 since we already have plenty of very nice froyo roms. I'm excited about CM7 because it may very well be the first Gingerbread rom we get (although I personally think Krylon will beat them). Also, it's nice to have options.
[Vibrant General] djgromit:
At this point, all we have is a compiled 2.2/Froyo kernel. The only way to enhance performance is to tweak settings that surround it, so that that compiled kernel gets called and utilized in better ways. This is what we get from dumps from phones that get the leaks, or even the OTA update.

What happens after the official release is that the actual source code for the kernel gets published. With the source code, much deeper tweaking can occur in the way the kernel functions internally.

An analogy would be on a car...if you want to make it perform better, you can add things like different exhaust, or change the air/fuel mixture or things like that, but you'll still be limited by the output of the engine itself.

But if you open the engine up and actually get inside, you can do things like bore out the cylinders and change internal parts which intrinsically effect the way the engine itself behaves, and can tune it and tweak it to really maximize the performance.

Hope that helps the understanding of why this release is a big deal...the OTA release itself is kind of meh to us, as any of the 2.2 ROMs that are out there currently are most likely still going to outperform the OTA release...it's the candy we get by having the source code that is making everyone so stoked...
[Vibrant General] racerXReloaded:
Pefect analogy!!!
[Vibrant General] krylon360:
Fixed that for you. I haven't shared my source with anyone yet. Have they asked. Yep. Have I provided? Nope. Not until I get all of the bugs worked out inside the source 1st. Then, and only then, will I make it public.

I'm not about to take the rath due to someone forking the source, building, releasing a buggy product, then pointing their finger at me saying it was my source he used.
[Vibrant General] gongonzabarfarbin:
From the PCMag article:

We had JK2 and JK6 leaks in November, hopefully the one T-Mobile releases isn't built on JK2. JK6 wasn't too bad. Hopefully it's KA6!
[Vibrant General] MWBehr:
Unfortunately you didn't follow the conversation properly. We were discussing the impact of froyo source on gingerbread releases. Not froyo source on froyo releases.
[Vibrant General] MWBehr:
My bad man, I skipped a step. I saw that you had mentioned uping it to github and made a poor assumption.
[Vibrant General] krylon360:
Samsung sent their 1st build (JK2 in Nov) There have been 2 months of additional builds for bug fixes. I 99.99% guarantee that KA6 is the OTA.

Look at it this way....

JI6...included the SBL.BIN..= OTA

KA6 Leak I had posted....included SBL.BIN...=OTA
[Vibrant General] krylon360:
no worries. It is upped to Git...just in a private repo
[Vibrant General] donalgodon:
Sorry, but what does the SBL.BIN actually do? I've seen another thread where it was posted, but I don't know what the secondary boot loader actually does. Can you explain its role?
[Vibrant General] z3NN9:
I bet they saw Team Whiskey is almost ready to put out 2.3 and decided they better start moving!
[Vibrant General] krylon360:
it's what controls recovery and download.

Within it are the keys for the buttons to be able to access recovery and download.
[Vibrant General] djgromit:
No, the conversation got derailed to people somehow thinking that an official Froyo release would have any bearing on a Gingerbread kernel.

That's just random thread chatter that happens regularly. The person I responded to specifically said that they didn't understand what the big deal about an official Froyo release was over what we already had in ROMs. That question, and my response, were both within the subject matter of the OP.

The only impact this release has on Gingerbread is that Samsung and T-Mobile have more time and resources for Gingerbread now that Froyo is out the door.

Thanks...
[Vibrant General] gongonzabarfarbin:
Oh I see! Thanks for the information!
[Vibrant General] MWBehr:
While I can understand that, you quoted my response to the Froyo update = Gingerbread development debate. You can see how I would think you were responding to me can't you?
[Vibrant General] Tempestrs4:
So I'm guessing this probably will not be 2.2.1? :(
[Vibrant General] djgromit:
Yes...I see that I did do that...sorry for the confusion...
[Vibrant General] jhepoy:
the news is not that exciting anymore.. i'm more excited with what the devs here at XDA will come up with next... devs here are awesome when it comes to providing custom roms.. again.. thanks..
[Vibrant General] cashyftw:
Haha I said the same thing, I'm more concerned about Devs getting the source code, only then will I be SUPER excited, right now, i'm happy :D
[Vibrant General] VeryCoolAlan:
Yay overclocked kernels here we come