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[Nexus One General] NexusDro:
Just curious. What are the technical details of the SLCD? Why is it called super?

For me, I would always pick a oversaturated AMOLED than a relatively more washed out SLCD (from what I have seen online) on a

mobile device.

HTC Legend's AMOLED doesn't have the pentile layout either. Notice that both the N8 and the Legend's AMOLEDs have lower resolution. I read that it is technically harder to make a high resolution AMOLED and therefore very costly.

I am not so sure about the new SAMOLED+. It's true that they finally discarded the pentile layout, but they are using it on a 4.5"? screen. I am not sure if the decrease in pixel density is going to be significant enough to still make the screen look sharper than a 4" pentile SAMOLED. Also I wonder if Samsung has the technology to fit a SAMOLED+ on a screen that's < 4".
[Nexus One General] eallan:
I'm sure they can fit it, if not now, then soon.

I too would take an AMOLED. The Legend isn't "super." The designation of super as far as i know means that the screen is "flush" with the glass. Whereas on the legend and N1 it is recessed. This recession leaves room for dust and increases glare.

I think that the 4.5" will be fine. The Evo is 4.3 inches with the same resolution, I wasn't disgusted with that screen. With SAMOLED+ and 4.5 inches on a phone as thin as a pencil? I'm on board.
[Nexus One General] navillos:
whoa what happened to my thread guys. i dont want this to become a display debate. oh to the guy who said might have a motive, thats why i preferred to meet locally. the only way i would ship is if it were a very credible person on xda.
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
Haha, my alternative motive post sparked an entire thread of debate.
[Nexus One General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
I published an article about nexus one Amoled vs. Slcd:

http://smartphoneblogging.com/2010/...d-showdown-which-screen-technology-is-better/

And overall I prefer slcd. The resolution is so much better and the colors are more natural (besides black).

I hated the pentile look on desire and nexus one. Luckily the new super amoled plus screens finally get rid of that pentile nonsense.
[Nexus One General] Tim4:
NexusDro - Sony SuperLCD - its a standard lcd with new sony's substate.

It gives more aggressive views of angle and more clear image compared to standard LCD.
[Nexus One General] pengu1n:
find 'lcd test' in the market, which provides full screen pure black view for test.
[Nexus One General] frandavid100:
Navillos, I got an SLCD nexus a couple weeks ago and would happily trade it for an amoled one. Only problem is, I'm from Spain so local would be difficult. Any ideas?
[Nexus One General] navillos:
I forgot to mention that my model works with tmobile 3g.
[Nexus One General] draugaz:
Trading with USA could be expensive due to the import taxes.

My AMOLED nexus is in Germany (EU = no taxes except postal expenses) which I would gladly trade against the SLCD version, but I have no idea how to ensure that both sides would receive their devices.
[Nexus One General] torchedlh:
As much as I love the vibrancy and deep blacks of the AMOLED I think I would also trade mine for a SLCD. I do watch movies/shows once in awhile, but I ALWAYS read RSS, browse the web, check gmail, Whatsapp etc all which have white backgrounds. If there were themes/options to use dark themes, then I think I'd be okay. But I really hate having to worry about my battery life. That is one area where the Iphone 4 absolutely KILLS the Nexus One.
[Nexus One General] ecash:
Not true. I sent an AMOLED and got an SLCD back. Talk about a disappointment.
[Nexus One General] eallan:
Uh oh, That is worrisome. Did you ask? I wonder if you can prefer one to them.
[Nexus One General] hlwdim:
I just used a SLCD N1 about 2 month and think it's fine for me, no need to change amoled, hehe, although it's the first choice for a lot guys~~
[Nexus One General] navillos:
are there any u.s. models with the SCLD? or are they just in the Unlocked models?
[Nexus One General] cmstlist:
SLCD models are sold by the Canadian carriers Mobilicity and Videotron. I think Cincinnati Bell sold them as well but it's not on their web site anymore. It's still on i wireless though.

I have an AMOLED and I've seen the SLCD Desire screen (presumably the same as SLCD N1). I like the SLCD better. I wonder if any Vancouverites are so desperately in love with the AMOLED that they would be interested in trading their brand-new Mobilicity N1 for my year-old model? :P
[Nexus One General] navillos:
I think even some vodafone models came in SLCD as well. I dont think any u.s. models came in AMOLED. That sucks because that means no warranty replacements.
[Nexus One General] Tim4:
I guess all nexuses that assembled after july-2010 are SLCD ones
[Nexus One General] Obsy:
Tim4 you are right! Exactly 26 July 2010
[Nexus One General] navillos:
well i found out that those went to vodafone and one other carrier. so all SLCD models are not even u.s. models. they are all international.
[Nexus One General] cmstlist:
I'm guessing that if "i wireless" is still selling the Nexus One, it's gotta be SLCD by now. That counts as a US model doesn't it?

All the Euro/Asian models are still the 900/AWS/2100 phone, same hardware that'll work on T-Mobile 3G. This isn't normally true of such phones, but it is for the Nexus One.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
hope you guys can help me. is it possible for me to swap in the slcd screen into my amoled nexus one? i was thinking about just buying the slcd from ebay and popping it in my nexus one running cyanogen 6.1.1 with hboot 35. is this just a plug and play type of situation? anything to look out for?

i want to try out the slcd and compare battery differences between the amoled, and check the sharpness differences, etc. is this possible to just do a straight swap? would i have to flash a new ROM etc? thanks guys.
[Nexus One General] haturaya:
It's easier to buy 2nd hand N1 SLCD than transplant the screen into AMOLED unit. That's what I did last month. Sold my N1 AMOLED for same price that I buy N1 SLCD. Sort of like 'free' swap. :)
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
Thanks but my ATT nexus one does not exist in slcd version. So I must keep this phone and put the new screen into this phone. Is it possible?
[Nexus One General] cmstlist:
You could go for an Inspire 4G if you want the SLCD experience. Or if you want the form factor of the N1, import a Telus HTC Desire.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
well actually the Inspire is what got me started on this whole thing because of its SLCD screen. I did some power tests with the inspire, and no matter what its power draw was a constant -240mA regardless of what i did or displayed with the phone. in contrast my nexus one spikes up to -700mA when i load and view a white web page. of course a black web page is around -170mA. but the point is i would rather have steady constant power draw rather than those spikes. i want to test this, at least, but my opinion is that the SLCD would get far superior battery life espeically web browsing.
[Nexus One General] cmstlist:
Are you confident that you'd be able to execute a screen swap successfully without damaging the phone? If so, more power to you, by all means try it out. No idea where you'd get one. But if you aren't 100% confident you won't turn your N1 into a heaping pile of spare parts, you may as well just use a newer phone that comes with the SLCD.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
well the new desire s is next on my list to purchase, simply because it has the SLCD screen and similar look and form as the nexus one. but its not out yet, and HTC doesnt really sell unlocked phones, so picking one up will be difficult unless ATT gets it.

no i'm not confident at the swap. i am confident about physically swapping the screen, as the disassembly instructions are freely available and the difficulty level is moderate. but what i am not sure about is the drivers issue. will it brick the device? is the connector identical? etc. it looks like nobody seems to know. i wish i could just buy the slcd version of the nexus, but i need one with 850/1900 3g, and those version dont exist.

the SLCD screen replacement is for sale all over the place. they are on ebay and other parts stores for 50-100 dollars. i have no problem buying one. i just dont want to permanently brick the device plugging it in. if i knew for sure that even if it doesnt work, as long as i plug the amoled screen back in would return the device to normal, then i'd have no issue trying the swap myself. but i dont know for sure what would happen.

i'm dying to run some battery comparison tests on power draw, and it would be superb if i could run the tests on identical hardware, literally, with just the screen difference. controlled test at its finest.
[Nexus One General] cmstlist:
Fair enough, but what does exist is the Telus HTC Desire which has 850/1900 3G and an SLCD screen. It's the closest you'll get to an SLCD N1 with AT&T frequencies. And you can flash a nearly-equivalent Cyanogen ROM to it. It should be a nearly direct comparison with the N1 in terms of power draw.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
I'm really considering that desire now that you mention it. I didn't know an slcd version existed. And what's even better, the desire is the only other android phone in existence that works with my battery app to do these tests cause both use ds2784 battery chip as the nexus.

I wonder where the safest place to get a working ATT slcd version of the desire...
[Nexus One General] cmstlist:
Good question. If you're in LA it's not like you can just skip across the border I guess.

Telus never sold an AMOLED version, as HTC had converted to SLCD by the time they released it. The Telus outright price is CDN399 + tax. Expansys USA sells the Telus version at a hugely marked-up $649.99! Negri Electronics has a price of $489.50 for the same. I have heard mixed reviews of Negri - so do your homework =)
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] kline1:
http://www.ndsico.com/XDA/bootanim/BA001.html

does anyone have this boot animation for the EVO.....the one in the link is for the Epic.
[Trophy General] ajhvdb:
On my HTC Trophy if I hold the . sign I don't get the + = signs. Is there any trick?
[Trophy General] DominikZ:
You have to Press &123 - and then the arrow (->) above abcd on the left hand side.
[Trophy General] ajhvdb:
thx, what to say about this--> :o
[Trophy General] DominikZ:
Had to search for a while too when trying to find the symbol :)
[General Topics] SlappyMcGee:
Found this interesting Article on Fudzilla regarding how Android could be killed off by the suppliers of the phones. Figured I would share :)

http://www.fudzilla.com/mobiles/item/21611-android-could-be-killed-off-by-suppliers
[General Topics] ksizzle9:
Nice read but those publishers are idiots. The only way android will be killed of is if apple takes over the world and burns down google
[General Topics] SlappyMcGee:
I pretty much summed up the article that if, Google doesn't take tighter control of how the suppliers are updating the phones, and if Google themselves do not ease up on releasing updates, then it might drive people away from Android phones due to the lack of support.
[General Topics] Archer:
Twoddle.

At last report (that I know of),

300,000 people a day

were activating new Android phones. I'm gonna guess here, but I reckon about 90% of those people don't give a monkeys about updated ROMs and new features. They don't understand enough about their phones to care. (Not an insult - just a statement.)

They'll keep their phone for the next 12/18/24 months and then get a nice new shiny one with the same OS cos it'll remember their contacts and they can download the same apps again.

Anyone that's in the other 10% know exactly how to modify the phone to suit their needs, and will only buy another phone because of the hardware. They know full well they can put whatever OS and apps on there they want.

For every bunch of people that leave Android to go iPhone, there'll be an equally sized bunch of people that leave iPhone to go Android. Change the OS names in that last sentence for other OSs to complete the story.

Analysts don't know squat. They're paid to make predictions that are less founded in reality than astrology. Besides, you can't be an analyst without anal.
[General Topics] gavriel18:
Well said and very true
[General Topics] MrAndrewAu:
A majority of customers don't care about updating the firmware of the phone. If it works, they won't complain. If it doesn't work, they'll bring it back for a warranty repair or simply get a new phone.
[General Topics] voddles:
Absolutely right.

On the other hand, i'm right outside that 10% bunch, but i'm just 17 and if i **** up my phone it won't be so good for me. I rooted, but i guess i am dumb enough not to know terminals and flashing and pushing stuff here and there :D

Anyhow- Android won't be killed. That's like when they said Linux was to be killed off in the early 2000's because Windows machines were supplied with an X amount of memory (about a 100mb extra than those running a distro)
[General Topics] STHNS:
Won't happen I mean come on what you think is the alternative? They want to pay the license? What happens if upgrade comes? who you think will pick up RIM? lol they are dead who else iOS? Sorry thats for iPanzy and who use that come on now, only other alternative is WM.

Also who wants to fight big Google? You think they will let it go easy? They can buy the ****ing company out and change the decision if they cared to just to send single message. Also then you have the user who can and is doing what they want hence you are on XDA? F the carrier support thats like saying you are bound to software hence your PC?

But the biggest problem with mobile world is the hardware which is not actually openly shared as opposed to computing world, where one can actually code the driver for support. BTW voddles your last sentence didn't make sense what so ever take it from someone who been using Slackware since it was created.
[General Topics] Blåburk:
I for myself isn't that impressed of Android anymore.

Having used an X10 Mini since May 2010 (now 2.1 and some extra updates)

Wanted the Mini for the Android Hype, Spotify music streaming and smallness.

Love the phone still but getting more and more angered of lack of decent software/apps

Hate all the Android keyboards(not because of it's tiny on a 2.6" screen) but the lack of arrow keys and stupidity behavior (like unable to mark text and enter new).

Search function is limited too (In Market and others) It's impossible to editing an old search, you have to enter everything again.

Also getting more and more irritated on the Google in general.

Wanna have a new non Win, IOS, Bada, Android or Nokia stuff. Phone OS. Now.

Will not follow your guys inte 2.2 or 2.3
[General Topics] nicksti:
Journalism just seems to go down the toilet in the highly competitive virtual world of the internet.

"While HTC appears to be ahead of the game at getting new updates to uses, some outfits, particularly Motorola are developing a jolly bad name for themselves. You could upgrade yourself but he problem is getting your paws on unlocked boot loaders. Motorola's upcoming phones have locked bootloaders."

Locked bootloaders have nothing to do with official updates.

"However it looks to us like Google is going to need to put its foot down fast before the suppliers start killing off its operating system. The last thing people want is to get an Android phone and find it can't do something that has been advertised because some phone maker could not be bothered upgrading."

Put its foot down on a free OS? Ads go out advertising that all Android phones support roms? That all Android phone are upgradeable to the latest, greatest Android OS?

The whole article looks to be written by someone attempting to be sensational but really has no clue.

I remember when Android was new and you had all these manufacturers "skinning" Android. I was worried that a user may confuse a skin with the primary OS and incorrectly give credit or blame to that skin. People seem to love Sense UI and hate Motoblur. You impression of Android could vary depending on if you used an HTC vs a Motorola. That clearly did not happen.
[General Topics] voddles:
'Lack of decent apps'?

Know why there seems to be a lack here?

You live in Sweden.

Last.fm doesn't work, Goggles doesn't work, Quickoffice doesn't work, trillian is probably locked out too...

Why didn't you get a netbook anyway?

Mine cost the same as the x10 mini did in May 2010.

If that's what you wanted when you got the phone, why didn't you turn it in right away?

Yeah, they have arrow keys - on the ones with a sliding keyboard. Idiot.

'The Google'? What does Google have to do with your Sony Ericsson phone?
[General Topics] _kast:
Never gonna happen.
[General Topics] Ryukenden:
Everything said here is somewhat true and somewhat false. We all have our opinions, we all have different expectations from our phones...

What i don't understand is, and i say this from a developer perspective, why would any mobile device manufacturer, like Sony, lock out their devices? Same goes for Apple etc etc

I mean, i think far more ppl would actually buy their products if they know that they have a open device and that it can run on all carriers. I mean, i actually bought my 1st iPhone just because of the fact that someone made an unlock tool so u could use it outside of AT&T networks...

As for the OS side, Android wont die ofc, and i believe its a good thing that Google publishes updates to it so fast. This means they are really dedicated to the project and that they really care for developers so they can make much better apps, with more features and capabilities.
[General Topics] Blåburk:
Thanks for sharing your IQ level with the world, hopes you will be able to eat with a spoon sometimes in the future.

Just one remark a phone made by SE but using the Google Android do have a somethings with the Google to do, doesn't it.

The rest of what you wrote is not worth comments.

Sorry for upsetting you
[General Topics] dsilver981:
When do you think an android OS for desktops will be created?
[General Topics] STHNS:
LOL now thats comedy.

I have to somewhat agree with you about the virtual keyboard. Now coming from HD2 which has the best stock keyboard I have ever seen. The arrow key and able to select via drag is best when you typing but on AOSP the whole idea is retarded. I can still type every fast but not fast as I once was on HD2 then again where is that whole 4.3" out there.
[General Topics] gsmary:
Nice read but those publishers are idiots.
[General Topics] ubnub82:
I personally am always going to be sticking with HTC. They usually update most of there phones and even if they dont someone will have rooted it and just made a <insert android version here> rom. Plus even if no one can root it i still love Htc Sense and it looks 100x better than Motoblur or whatever Sony uses.
[General Topics] blast0id:
Now now children... please lighten up, much more important things in this world to be getting upset or to "fight" over... honestly...

a subs0nic G2 bass cann0n blast0id via andr0id
[General Topics] Etthy:
so true.....only 10% of peopel like us know what we really want to do with our phones....
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] infernozeta2:
Hi to all,

is working the auto-focus on camera ?? or it only me that i have this issue ?

autofocus works fine in camcorder, but i trying to take a photo of my bussines-card and i cant read my name.. number.. etc :/

happen to all ?

thank, and sorry for my english :)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] aeropilot:
I can't get the camera to focus either. I'm guessing the HD7 camera button is the kind that focuses when you press it lightly, and takes the picture when you press it completely.

So I'm thinking the only way to get it to focus is to map the function to a different key. But that might not be possible.

Just my thoughts...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Nevralgeek:
I notices This issue too, but found an easy way to focus with camera. 2 Options :

- Having your phone pointing the object you want to take a picture of before launching the camera software -> focus ok 80%

Or

- Just switch to video camera (->Autofocus) then switch back to photo mode (still focused)

I hope it helps a bit

:)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] infernozeta2:
option 2 works fine thank a lot :D
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] henreeg:
Is there a difference on these two?

Why is KA6 the Official release and yet, there's a leaked KA7?

Just wondering.:confused:
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] regP:
KA6 is official because Samsung/T-Mobile feel it is solid enough for users to use. KA7 being a leak means they may not be done with it yet. When they feel KA7 is good enough for the masses it'll go official or they'll move on to KA8.

As for the difference between 6 and 7.. Why not flash them and find out for your self. Results vary from user to user.
[Desire HD General] AudioFiend:
ACE PVT ENG S-OFF

RADIO-26.03.02.26_M

eMMc-boot

HBOOT-0.85.2007

What has happened to S-OFF??

Did i ever achieve it in the first place??
[Desire HD General] Mr_JMM:
Check Fastboot screen. The "About Phone" info won't show the state of S-ON/OFF
[Desire HD General] AudioFiend:
ACE PVT ENG S-OFF

RADIO-26.03.02.26_M

eMMc-boot

HBOOT-0.85.2007

/\/\/\ That is the information at fast boot..

I added the about phone info as people can see what kernal is being used...

I think i may need to down grade to get S-Off back, but not sure. So much to read im going around in circles..
[Desire HD General] Mr_JMM:
Do you mean you want to get Radio S-OFF so you can safely update to 1.72/75 ROM? (You DO have S-OFF, the ENGineering version of it)

There's a dedicated sticky in the dev forum about how to do that.
[Desire HD General] cattleprod:
check in your bootloader > system info and look at your CID if its 11111111 you have super CID and there for will be radio s-off as you gain super CID from the radio s-off tool.
[Desire HD General] AudioFiend:
Yes thats it, thank you. so the ENGineering S-OFF = ACE ENG S-OFF. Got it now i understand and yes that is what i wanted to do is upgrade my ROM. I will look for the sticky..
[Desire HD General] AudioFiend:
I will check to see if i have gained super CID.. Thanks.

Ok have checked and it is ORANG001..

What should i do next..

Ok found it just follow.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=857537

Ok couple of questions

ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF = Radio S-OFF What does this gain?? Signal, Battery??? Can it be left RADIO S-OFF to Flash ROMs or does it need to be ACE PVT ENG S-OFF = S-OFF to do this. Is it easy to change between the too and would i need to..

Super Cid is unbranded then?? when its all the 111111?? what would i gain over the orange cid.. Better radios not locked into orange??

Hope this makes sense..

Ok found this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=856955

i understand everything now! cheers for the point in the right direction...
[Desire HD General] AudioFiend:
OK my CID is now 11111111 :D

So I now have RADIO S-OFF although

in bootloader it remains ENG S-OFF...:eek:

Thats right isnt it??? :confused:
[Desire HD General] Atrax2010:
My CID is HTC_032, and it doesn't say Radio S-OFF on the top, it says ACE PVT ENG S-OFF.

But still, I can switch operators, and flash radios etc....

So I don't think you should worry about that, if other operators work and you can install custom ROMs, then it's rooted and unbranded properly.

For example, Ultimate Multi Tool says that my phone is SIM-LOCKED and S-ON, but it's not.

As for Super-CID, it's close to useless if you ask me, maybe important for developers, but other than that...too much trouble for nothing ;)
[Desire HD General] Hunt3r.j2:
Holy necroing batman.
[Desire HD General] Andy:
Please let sleeping thread sleep.

Thread Closed.
[HD2 Android SD Development] GuestK00102:
I've been browsing the forums, but I can't find the answer and I used the search function, but there are too many irrelevant threads. So can someone give me a straight answer or a link that explains how to install whatever I need to boot Android from an SD card in Windows Mobile 6.5?