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[Gen8 General] SWFlyerUK:
Also, after playing music for a few tracks the music app stops working, needs a reboot.
[Gen8 General] woti23:
downloaded raging thunder lite 2 and tap on the display like mad, don't know really how to play, runs half an hour now, can't get it to freeze
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
I was playing Dungeon Hunter for last 2 hours - no problems. But it hang early today, on this game - but just once so far... not much to test.
[Gen8 General] dkelley:
I HAVE to get this dungeon hunter you keep talking about :-)
[Gen8 General] frenchdj:
Maybe your last kernel made some effect. I have been playing for a little while raging thunder 2 and this time it did not freeze.If is OK Ill keep u updated if I get the device frozen again.Thanks for now!
[Gen8 General] dkelley:
hey, I actually got it to freeze on stock android. but it took a lot of work (and was entirely by accident). and it was a much less violent freeze - I was downloading and installing a lot of apps from a market, then one of them, during hte download stage, didn't really start downloading. dragging down the notification bar showed the "about to start downloading" barber shop animation effect for a minute or so, the system was progressively less and less responsive, finally the animation stopped and the whole system was frozen. possibly it would have unfrozen given time but I just gave up and force powered off (it wouldn't even go to sleep with power button).

So possibly what we're seeing here is an issue in the latest stock archos firmware that is frequently encountered by your urukdroid firmware modifications?

But it could have been an entirely unreleated situation of course, and hell almost every android firmware I've used on other devices has once in a while frozen completely.

If uruk droid froze once every couple of days I could live with it, but not every few minutes when not sitting idle (which is my freeze frequency now).
[Gen8 General] Mod57:
I have the latest Kernel too and the problem still exists.

It may run trouble free for hours or even a day, just when I think the problem is solved it locks up and I have to reboot. :D

In my case gaming is usually the cause but I have had it happen simply scrolling through my applications.

I use a task manager now, something Androids management system isn't supposed to need.

I have minimized using widgets, tried CompCache on - off, swap on - off - re-sized swap - CpuGovernor on and off. Nothing has yet worked.

UrukDroid's benefits still out weigh the alternative. Will be great when the problem is found.
[Gen8 General] dkelley:
hey, just tried redoing my install of urukdroid 0.7 again without ever using known baddies like setcpu etc just in case that someone corrupted my system and caused the freezes later on.

However, no dice. went right back to flashing sde, installing uruk advanced internal resize. only change I made in settings was to change power management to overdrive (cuz I've read of ppl liking that).

didn't even setup my gmail account or anything, installed jetcarstunts, let it run on the menu for 5 or 6 minutes, and it froze completely.

I would say that ppl should test with the game jetcarstunts and leave it untouched running on the game's first menu for a few minutes and see if your system freezes. It's very consistent for me now that I've figured that out as a trigger for the freeze.

$aur0n - can you try that and see if it fails consistently for you too? would be great if the main dev could recreate the issue as reliably as I can :-)

cheers

Don
[Gen8 General] dkelley:
Haha!!! I installed urukdroid 0.6 to see how it works.

Guess what? main menu of jet car stunts game froze the tablet after 9 minutes (my screen timeout is set for 10 minutes which is what I was waiting to see working).

so it's not something new to ud 0.7 causing the freeze, it's been in UD for a while now but didn't get talked about or maybe wasn't seen until a few of us started playing games.

I hope that helps diagnose the issue - changes after 0.6 aren't the place to look at.

cheers :-)
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
What kernel did you use for this installation? I just want to make sure it's 0.6 kernel - not something never?

If it was really 0.6 kernel - then I'll prepare binary from stock OS (as is), and compiled directly without any modification in source/config - then will see...
[Gen8 General] dkelley:
yea, really was 0.6 kernel. this is how I installed 0.6:

I removed sde, installed sde, installed 0.6 using initfs and kernel from 0.6 archive, used that installer to install the rest of 0.6 (the big 3rd file), all onto my slow 16gb class 2 card (wow it makes a difference compared to speedy internal flash!).

so I think maybe we're onto something here...

I'll watch for a kernel from you. I currently have 0.7 on there again and was about to flash 1.0 rc1 on there just because I can't really loose right now LoL. I suppose it doesn't matter which version of uruk I'm using if we just want to see the freezing go away from a kernel flash, right?

thx

Don
[Gen8 General] matteone:
wifi malfunction after 0.7 installation

A101IT, UrukDroid 0.7

Hi everyone and first of all many thanks for the wonderful work done with UrukDroid - I am having big problems with wifi after installation, market seems to take 4ever to download applications and pushes cpu to 100% - the same does not happen on a tethered connection to internet via cellphone.

How can I work out this?

PS: I noticed that no matter how I formatted the SD partitions, the remaining big chunk other than the 512M and 1G (which I choose to have 1.5), is made vfat by the installation process - how can I have it ext4?

many thanks & ciao

Matt
[Gen8 General] sibere:
FYI, I have solved my wifi slowdown issue by using the former wifi firmware. I also have solved my freezes by using ondemand cpu gov instead of interactive.

Hope this helps. :)
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
It's because vold won't manage to mount this type of FS. You can do it manually - but it will require some tweaking with mount process.

You don't need setcpu, you can change governor in /etc/uruk.conf/cpugovernor (it does not have to be interactive).

Please let us know if disabling interactive governor really solves freeze problems...
[Gen8 General] sibere:
It solved freezing issues at least for me :)

setcpu is not needed unless you wanna play with min/max freqs and profiles.

Sent from my A70S using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Gen8 General] matteone:
How do you do it? Is there any HOWTO or link to a previous post about this? I searched a bit around but I could not find anything.

many thanks

Matt
[Gen8 General] sibere:
Posted in the dev thread.
[Gen8 General] matteone:
Tried to use the old firmware by changing the simlink in /etc/wifi, but the result is the same - network is terribly slow - I also did some ping test, comparing the ping times from my laptop and from A101; I do not loose any packet, but the ping times are averagely higher for the A101.

EDIT: Also tried to move a large file from A101 to my home server and in this case I had a performance that was very similar to the well working laptop - so it'd look like more as a problem with small chunks of data - dunno if it makes any sense...

Obviously I tried with the stock 2.2 and there is no such problems whatsoever.
[Gen8 General] bthoven:
So what you are saying is:

1. the swap out and in trigger is still managed by Froyo

2. instead of swapping out to sdcard swap file which is slow, the swapout part is compressed to 1/3 of its size before putting in a compcache (which is part of ram acting like a swap area)

3. so it is actually not swapping, it is a compressing activity which is very fast in RAM

4. the compcache size is varied from 0 to max 32MB (which is equivalent of 96MB swap area, if on sdcard)

5. when 32MB are used up, it is as if we gain 64MB of actual RAM (96 minus 32MB)

Hope I understand this correctly.

It seems a clever mechanisim to gain 64MB of ram with only negligible performance lost from non-swapfile environment.
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
Close ;) - but to make it crystal clear:

1) Not froyo but Linux kernel - it's all kernel thing - witch has mostly nothing to do with Android

2) Yes

3) It is swapping - since you CAN'T access swapped memory directly - you have to pull it out of swap to ram and then address

4) Yes (but compression ratio may vary - I seen it's around 1/3)

5) Yes, but its more like a "gain" - since to access swapped data we need to pull them out from swap
[Gen8 General] munkiii:
I only have 1 problem in the process, and this is it...

root@ubuntu:/tmp# dmesg|tail -15
[ 4612.895604] scsi13 : usb-storage 1-1:1.0
[ 4613.893222] scsi 13:0:0:0: Direct-Access ARCHOS A101it 0000 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[ 4613.893942] scsi 13:0:0:1: Direct-Access ARCHOS A101it 0000 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[ 4613.897572] sd 13:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[ 4613.898249] sd 13:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
[ 4613.922965] sd 13:0:0:0: [sde] Attached SCSI removable disk
[ 4613.934523] sd 13:0:0:1: [sdf] Attached SCSI removable disk
[ 4637.829703] sd 13:0:0:0: [sde] 30056448 512-byte logical blocks: (15.3 GB/14.3 GiB)
[ 4637.830444] sd 13:0:0:0: [sde] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 4637.832432] sd 13:0:0:0: [sde] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 4637.832445] sde: sde1
[ 4637.840693] sd 13:0:0:1: [sdf] 32372736 512-byte logical blocks: (16.5 GB/15.4 GiB)
[ 4637.841430] sd 13:0:0:1: [sdf] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 4637.843894] sd 13:0:0:1: [sdf] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 4637.843912] sdf: sdf1

So i plug my archos 101 into my pc, and know my 16gb class 10 sd card is "sdf1".

i get to formatting my sd card...

root@ubuntu:/tmp# fdisk /dev/sdf

WARNING: DOS-compatible mode is deprecated. It's strongly recommended to
switch off the mode (command 'c') and change display units to
sectors (command 'u').

Command (m for help): d
Selected partition 1

Command (m for help): n
Command action
e extended
p primary partition (1-4)
p
Partition number (1-4): 2
First cylinder (1-2007, default 1):
Using default value 1
Last cylinder, +cylinders or +size{K,M,G} (1-2007, default 2007):

But it is different words and values to what it should be.

Here is the expected output:

root@sysresccd /tmp % fdisk /dev/sdf

Command (m for help): d
Selected partition 1

Command (m for help): n
Command action
e extended
p primary partition (1-4)
p
Partition number (1-4, default 1): 2
First sector (2048-31275007, default 2048):
Using default value 2048
Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G} (2048-31275007, default 31275007):

As you can see, i am getting "cylinder" instead of "sector", and the default values are different.

Can anyone give me a little bit of help?
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
You don't need to worry about this difference - since we operate on megabytes,gigabytes. So go like howto says and good luck.
[Gen8 General] munkiii:
But my result says

First cylinder (1-2007, default 1):
Using default value 1

which gives a default of 1, but the expected outcome says

First sector (2048-31275007, default 2048):
Using default value 2048

which gives a default of 2048.

I assume that might make a difference?
[Gen8 General] snickle:
Actually no. They are really to different representation of the same thing, it is just how fdisk reports it. I think you can toggle back and forth with the u command in fdisk.
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
Some cards have reserved first few block for many reasons (it's 0,5MB or less) - this was with my sdcard - and that's why in examplel first possible to select sector is 2048. On other cards (different design) - this can be 1. So don't worry and go ahead.
[Gen8 General] fisha21:
Have posted this in the main thread but will post here too.

Found a way to fix the issue where the screen doesn't respond when waking from sleep, requiring a reboot. If you force a screen recalibration through the recovery menu, it seems to stop the issue from occuring again. Hope that helps someone!
[Gen8 General] Mod57:
mount UrukDroid

I am new to this but I try to do this step

root@sysresccd /tmp % mount /dev/sdc2 sdcard

root@sysresccd /tmp % mv UrukDroid-rootfs-upgrade.tgz sdcard/

root@sysresccd /tmp % mv UrukDroid-copy_data.cmd sdcard/

root@sysresccd /tmp % sync

root@sysresccd /tmp % umount sdcard

and I get:

root@mod57-Satellite-L505D:/tmp# mount /dev/sdc2 sdcard

mount: mount point sdcard does not exist

what am I missing here?
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
There should be "mkdir /tmp/sdcard" somewhere on a very top of it.
[Gen8 General] fisha21:
Ok, yet another oddity.

Running 0.4.1 no problems, today upgraded to 0.5 - all working ok, with terminal fix to allow APK installation.

However, just ran kenyu's gapp installer to try and get network location working. After a reboot, the soft keys no longer show up in landscape or portrait. I know there was an option on the power menu to show/hide soft keys, but now when I hold down the power key for couple of seconds, the only option I get to is to reboot/sleep/power off. I'm sure there were at least 2 other menu options there before!

Tried uninstalling the Gapp files using the installer, but still nothing. Bit of a problem cos as soon as I open a program, there's no way to get back to the home screen. Is there a way to enable soft keys via settings menu. Trying to explore that, but very slow- everytime I open a submenu, I have to reboot to get back as there is no back key!
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
Hmm that's really strange - I don't use gapps, but they are not designed to work with rooted devices. I've finished doing latest upgrade package - and I'll do now gapps package for Uruk (they are made from kenyu73 gapps) - perhaps (but sadly - I doubt this) this will fix your problems.
[Gen8 General] cjdalessio:
Two bugs this morning.

A101it 16gb + 16gbC10sdcard

UDv0.5 (I think not quite final)

1. CPU will not go past 600000 and only drops to 300000. Something is messed up in the scaling tables perhaps. (I use OSMonitor app to watch.)

2. If you change performance settings itgoes back to ondemand till reboot. So interactive governor doesn't seem sticky.
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
2. is certainly not a bug - it's how it its. Simply don't change performance setting on Archos. Or if you do - use UrukConfig to run cpugovernor.

1. It's probably buggy software - please check it like this - this can't be wrong

/system/etc/uruk.conf # cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
1000000
/system/etc/uruk.conf # cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
1000000 800000 600000 300000
/system/etc/uruk.conf # cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
interactive
[Gen8 General] cjdalessio:
Guess that makes sense on the governors.

I've used OSMonitor extensively testing kernels on my Hero -not sure it is buggy. Settings are all good in the files you mention and also correctly reported. It just won't scale past 600000 for some reason. I started digging in because performance didn't seem right. Will try a bit more (and latest release) once I get into the office if I have time.
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
I've just checked - it's going on 1Mhz easily. Pleas run ssh server and connect with ssh client (putty.exe will do)

and

su
watch -d cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq

Try to run anything on archos that needs much cpu power.

ps. Sorry if I write things you already know
[Gen8 General] cjdalessio:
Writing things I know still helps other people. And in this case, I knew but didn't know, if that makes sense.

Also, Putty just sorta happens to require Windows. :D So that step won't work. Somehow I think I'll manage.

Update: it's scaling to 1000000 now. And OSMonitor is reporting it exactly the same as via ssh (I'm 99% sure it's exactly the same command). It's a useful tool for debugging I've found. :)

That said - I am almost positive that something DID cause the odd behavior I observed this morning, because the performance just went to crap - bookmarks wouldn't load, music playback skipped, settings took forever to pop - that's the point I went digging. The trick now is wtf caused it.

In other news, I see in the logs:

I//usr/bin/fusesmb( 9017): ERROR: rdlength = 104, remaining bytes = 101

I//usr/bin/fusesmb( 9017): ERROR: rdlength = 104, remaining bytes = 101

I//usr/bin/fusesmb( 9017): ERROR: rdlength = 104, remaining bytes = 101

I//usr/bin/fusesmb( 9017): ERROR: rdlength = 142, remaining bytes = 137

I//usr/bin/fusesmb( 9017): ERROR: rdlength = 142, remaining bytes = 137

I have not enabled samba via UrukConfig
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
This is fuse (user space) smb - so it's what you have connected with outside archos (probably in media player).
[Gen8 General] munkiii:
I'm stuck now.

I've followed the instructions step by step, and can't get it to work.

I've downloaded the 0.5 install zip file, loaded Terminal in Ubuntu 10.10.

I've followed all the commands (and changed to my variables, like sdd/sdc/sdb for card name).

So i've ended up with a 16gb sd card formatted into 3 parts, 537M/1.1G/15G.

I've put this in my Archos 101, loaded boot menu, chose to flash initramfs and zimage, copied them to the archos using the commands given.

Rebooted into dev mode...

And all i'm getting is the "Archos Entertainment Your Way" logo, and it seems to hang on that screen.

So i've put the sd card into a reader and loaded it in Ubuntu.

Here is how it looks.

The 15G part has:

nothing, it's blank

The 537M part has:

"lost+found" folder, "UrukDroid-copy_data.cmd" file, "UrukDroid-install.tgz" file

The 1.1G part has :

"lost+found" folder

Can anybody help?

Is there any commands i can run to give you more information if you need it?
[Gen8 General] sublimejosh2000:
Some Sluggish operation

0.5 is seem to be a little bit sluggish, but I wonder why. I have tried the external and the internal, and both respond the same.

How are we doing with that OC kernel for 0.5? :)
[Gen8 General] sibere:
Maybe the 101 settings are a bit different than the 70S... I can't help there because I have a 70S and this change back to old FW made a hude difference for me.

Now WiFi is rock stable for hours and after hours I don"t have a single freeze with ondemand CPU gov.

I also have enabled network location which wasn't working from 1st install .
[Gen8 General] matteone:
That's ok - I also tried the cpugovernor "on demand" setting, just in case it could have something to do with the firmware choice - no way - I will be waiting for some more experimenting, and I would be glad to help to make this work, if I can be of any help.

regards

Matt
[Gen8 General] dkelley:
Fyi first thing i tried last week to prevent freezing was changing cpu governor. Didnt help me (i used setcpu fwiw)

Still anxious to try the experimental stock kernel build $aur0n...
[Gen8 General] SWFlyerUK:
Please ignore. . .
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
It's on it's way - but "stock" even won't boot on Uruk, so I'm trying to enable all necessary stuff...
[Gen8 General] matteone:
I can see you have my same tablet - do you suffer from the extremely slow network and high cpu problem as well?
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
Ok, some work need to be done first...

Please edit /etc/init/init.A101IT.rc and "hash" or remove those lines...

# Uruk stuff
# insmod /lib/modules/2.6.29-omap1/kernel/drivers/media/video/videobuf-core.ko
# insmod /lib/modules/2.6.29-omap1/kernel/drivers/media/video/videobuf-dma-sg.ko
# insmod /lib/modules/2.6.29-omap1/kernel/drivers/media/video/v4l2-int-device.ko
# insmod /lib/modules/2.6.29-omap1/kernel/drivers/media/video/v4l1-compat.ko
# insmod /lib/modules/2.6.29-omap1/kernel/drivers/media/video/videodev.ko
# insmod /lib/modules/2.6.29-omap1/kernel/drivers/media/video/v4l2-common.ko

Make sure all services are disabled during boot (UrukConfig) then please apply this kernel (drop package to /data/UrukUpdate)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1017593/ArchosGEN8/UrukDroid-1.0/test/UrukDroid-test-kernel.tbz2

Waiting impatiently for results ;) (this is "almost" stock kernel - source without any mods, only ext4 enabled).
[Gen8 General] frenchdj:
I'm going to try your kernel but first can you just guide me on the step I have to do prior to this? Init folder is empty and I don't know where to find the lines you say to delete, thanks!
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
I have prepared this mostly for dkelley (since he has some way of getting this frezes ;) ). But if you experience it too, you can try - but this is no NEW kernel - it's just striped extremely stock one, without any futures.

Anyway you can't have /etc/init/ folder empty on Archos

root@urukdroid:/root# cd /etc/init
root@urukdroid:/etc/init# ls
S99vpnc init.A101IT.rc init.A28.rc init.A32.rc init.A32SD.rc init.A35.rc init.A35DM.rc init.A43.rc init.A70H.rc init.A70S.rc init.archos.rc
root@urukdroid:/etc/init#

If you have A101 - edit like i wrote before, if some other device - edit proper file (for A70S - init.A70S.rc)
[Gen8 General] frenchdj:
I'm using ES Explorer, Init is empty but Init d has something inside.... Race thunder 2 froze again with this kernel but without the changes I can't do as I don't find the elements in the folder
[Gen8 General] Mod57:
$aurOn, dumb question but is it ok to turn services back on in UrukConfig once installed?
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
Rather not, since this kernel lacks of most functionality required by them to work.

ES has some "root explorer" functionality, and only with this you could see content of this directory - but anyway for this purpose ES does not work. Best (most sure) way is to use ssh/terminal. You can try with root explorer or "file manager" - but I recommend ssh ;)

Without removing those lines you may still taint kernel with unproper modules...
[Gen8 General] Mod57:
Played Raging thunder 2 twice froze on me both times. With UrukDroid-1.0RC1-kernel(1) it would happen only occasionally I will keep testing other things. Also I did make the changes in etc/init as you requested using Root Explore.

I continued trying things that cause the freezing previously including Raging Thunder again and haven't had a problem. Has anyone else tried this too curious what others have found.
[Gen8 General] dkelley:
$aur0n lol you must be ready to pull your hair out...
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
What about your tests?
[Gen8 General] Mod57:
$aur0n, my wife likes to play the game Jewels, it would take several games but would eventually cause a freeze and reboot. She has been playing for hours and it hasn't locked up yet.

Raging Thunder 2 is a 3D graphic intensive game. As I posted before the first couple times it froze on me... It hasn't since? Limited memory and no CompCache may have been the cause of the initial force closes?

Unfortunately I don't have an app like dkelley to lock up any time.
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
Well - so I'll wait for some conclusions - like for now I have none. I've checked for 2.6.29 bug reports, some ext4 bug reports too. Haven't found anything that fits here.

Meanwhile I guess we have now working EasyInstall for A70H. And I really would love to push 1.0 out so I can try some more funny stuff - like open omap kernel, other mods (that don't really fits in public release profile ;) ).
[Gen8 General] Mod57:
I hope there is a solution soon, because it's delaying your work on new releases. :D

Looking forward to seeing what you have in store for UD next.
[Gen8 General] frenchdj:
The new basic kernel is freezing the raging thunder 2 as well, removed requested files and edited the text, as Mod32 said, but in my situation the A70S freeze