yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy Android Development] BizzaBoy:
One reason I found is that there is some web2go.com configured as home-page for the browser. Seems it pings that every now and then. There was also something in the 6.3.190 build.prop. I'll go and recheck.

BTW, I came up dry with a config switch for HPSA. Need to recheck with a 2.2.1 ROM from a Milestone 2.
[Defy Android Development] BizzaBoy:
Back to the question that I posed. Before you stated the 3.6.390 (the latest t-mobile update) uses version 4, which is the same as 3.4.2. Shouldn't it be possible to extract a boot/mbm for 3.6.390, and flash that over a 3.4.2 boot, and then reinstall 3.6.390 with a nandroid backup ?

I'm really just looking for a way to at some point get back to the 3.6.390 one, so that I can maybe upgrade to the regular T-Mobile US 2.2.1 whenever it comes out. My worry is that Motorola starts using version 3 for the non-US versions, and version 4 for the US DEFYs, which kind of leaves 3.4.2 users stranded if no further 2.2.1 based rom gets leaked that will enable an upgrade path.
[Defy Android Development] Simplestas:
Theoretically, if you dump boot partition from 3.6.190 phone flash memory completely with signature and flash it with sbf then it may work. Not sure if nandroid can restore boot.img with singature.
[Defy Android Development] gomdon:
this rom has trouble in GPS with UK defy
[Defy Android Development] BizzaBoy:
What kind of trouble ? I saw it yesterday being off somewhat, but didn't think much about that. Was using "my tracks" ...
[Defy Android Development] runeblade:
So what I've gathered then from reading is that the newest update TMobile pushed out is essentially the 2.51, which would mean as it stands I should just be able to do a Nandroid restore of the 3.4.2 with no problem correct? Should boot as the kernal would be the same now, or I am I missing something else here?
[Defy Android Development] 7iain7:
@gomdon the does appear to be a problem with the GPS

GPS test show 2 or 3 sat's in view.

tried on my htc desire i am getting about 9 or 10
[Defy Android Development] BizzaBoy:
No, the other way around. What if somebody puts the cg31 from 3.6.390 into a 3.4.2 sbf ?
[Defy Android Development] BizzaBoy:
Just checked here. Initially GPS test showed only 2 sattelites. After about a minute of so the rest (8 in total) popped up. I seem to recall this being way faster than on 2.21/2.34.
[Defy Android Development] 7iain7:
I think but not 100% sure, once sats have been found data is stored. Then when you use the satnav again it has an idea which sats to look for and should find them quicker.

which does seems to be the case now as the defy finds sat's just as quick as my htc
[Defy Android Development] danbutter:
Yes, this has been a standard for GPS receivers for a long time.

I remember when I got my first USB dongle years ago it took over 20 mins to get a lock the first time. I was ready to box it back up and return it!

First cold boot of a GPS is always gonna take longer than subsequent locks.

That data does expire too though so if you don't use GPS for a (depends on your equipment) set amount of time it will act like a cold boot again.
[Defy Android Development] MadStu:
I re-installed copilot in a panic after reading this earlier, and it took me about 20 or 30 minutes to get about 9 or 10 satellites, and it still wasn't working right until I rebooted. And now it's perfect :D

As it's a rom for the US it's likely to be pre-configured to be in the USA.

By the way, big THANKS go to Higgsy for making me a zip to unlock all the apps in the market earlier. Thanks Dude :D
[Defy Android Development] Simplestas:
If anyone wants to help digging dangerous downgrade path, try flashing this firmware (having 3.4.2 installed!):

http://www.multiupload.com/BQSWSA3QVR

It's 2.51 with with cdt from US 3.6.390 update.

Remember it's highly potentially dangerous.
[Defy Android Development] MadStu:
Quadrant

I just tested my quadrant speed.

I haven't deblurred.

Overclocked to 1100mhz with 62vsel

Out of 5 tests, my best score was 1605 and lowest was 1548 :D
[Defy Android Development] fabianowerner:
great score MadStu , does it worth running @ 1100, do u have battery issues?
[Defy Android Development] MadStu:
I've not ran it long enough yet - but I have juice defender and juice plotter installed, and at the moment with battery at 90% it says I have 16hours left before it runs out (12% accuracy)

But I've not put it down installing loads of apps and stuff, so I think it will last for a looooong time in normal use.
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
my defy runs since 36h and still 66% battery left. i deleted some apps and undervolted cpu
[Defy Android Development] Beach_Head:
Here's the boot.img and recovery.img from a T-Mo Defy with the 3.6.360 update...

T-Mo 3.6.360 Defy Boot + Recovery Images

Someone verify if we can downgrade back to 2.1 from 2.2 using this file...
[Defy Android Development] rahulsh:
I am on 2.51 rooted rom. Can someone help me confirming that i just flash sbf from 1st post and i will be strt on froyo from eclair? do i need to flash any boot file as well? i have blur acct setup on this phone ... thx for your help
[Defy Android Development] shaneg79:
is it possible that this rom will ever be downgradable?
[Defy Android Development] runeblade:
All I can say is hot-damn. I'm very impressed with this rom. I followed Higgy's step for flashing his nandroid backup, and then using the nandroid from this rom, used that. After removing some of the bloatware, and setting up milestone overclock, I'm scoring around 1300 on quadrant. The 3G wifi spot is awesome. Internet speed is awesome. I have my other defy on stock rom at .360 and it can't compete. This rom I'm averaging 5.5 Mbps down/1.5 up. Stock I'm averaging 2.5Mbps down/.5 up. Same location. This one seems to connect to HSPA more. Camera and Video works great. The only thing I can't get working right now is Wifi calling. Going to work on that this weekend. App fires up, but it can't connect. Going to try to move the settings over from my other phone. GPS cold lockup on this one is fast as well. I am consistently getting lockup in under 20 seconds. The one concern that I have about this rom, and it applies to all "leaked" roms is the chance that it has been compromised. I have to look at that as we are using these phones for corporate uses. I can't say for sure that is the case with this one, but I did find LogMeIn Remote installed on this rom, and it does not appear on the apps screen. I wiped it out. I'm monitoring the data connections with a firewall app to see if there is anything else I'm missing. Otherwise this is an awesome update to the phone and I can't wait till TMobile finally makes it official.
[Defy Android Development] Dalamak:
any takers on this yet?
[Defy Android Development] ExtraSyn:
so how would i go about installing the tmobile update? errr im gonna take a guess do you install it through recovery. install .zip
[Defy Android Development] runeblade:
Got wifi calling working. Guess this rom is even more sensitive to issues with N. Battery life is turning out to be awesome as well. 10 hours off the charger with 85% remaining.
[Defy Android Development] JamesDax:
That's strange. I'm also using (and loving) this ROM and WiFi calling works just fine for me.

btw, how did you find LogMeIn Remote if it's not on the apps screen?

Edit: ooppss I see that you did get it working. lol, nvm
[Defy Android Development] runeblade:
I found it in the system/apps folder while I was removing the bloatware.
[Defy Android Development] jeffokada81:
I will have to confirm that ROM works 100% straight RSD flash..... Thanks
[Defy Android Development] NewKlNGjames:
Does anyone have a current link to t-mobile froyo sfb? I am trying to downgrade my defy from cyanogen back to stock, but I can't find a link that works anymore. and-developers has megaupload for it and the multiupload link here doesn't load. Please help!!!!
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umts_jordan/list.php
[Defy Android Development] NewKlNGjames:
thank you so much that was amazingly fast. I really appreciate it.
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
but i'm not sure, it was the first link or the last one you are searching for.
[Defy Android Development] Ptikjp:
Nandroid backup needed please.

Hi guys there was a nandroid backup posted in this thread for this firmware leak. I would love to have a copy for a second boot option please. if someone could IM me or post it somewhere I would be very very appreciative. Thanks in advance.

---------- Post added at 03:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:44 PM ----------

Can you please repost a copy of this.
[Defy Android Development] tlongren:
The first and the last T-Mobile US options are the same exact file size when uncompressed.

AFAIK, this:

T-Mobile_MB525_6.19.0_1FF.zip

is the same as this:

JORDN_U3_6.36.0_SIGNED_USAJRDNTMOB1B4B5DE1028.0R_JORDANTMO_P022_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz

I would really love to find a Stock Froyo 2.2 SBF for my T-Mobile US regular Defy. I flashed the first SBF in that list and it took me to Eclair (2.1) and I had to download the update to Froyo.
[Defy Android Development] zyxwvut:
They are in fact NOT the same. 6.19 was the original eclair 2.1 and 6.360 was the update to eclair 2.1 update 1 or 2.1.1. There is not a stock froyo sbf for US T-Mobile. Only this leaked version. This leaked sbf is system version 3.4.2-107-4. Official US froyo is 3.4.2-107-9. Only way to get to official froyo is to flash 6.360 eclair and do OTA update. Wipe data in stock recovery after OTA update and it functions ok.
[Defy Android Development] jayanth1255:
Any bugs.? What about proximity sensor? Any chance we get final version of this rom?
[Defy Android Development] Steveletack:
Sorry wrong read ^^ Delete pls
[Defy Android Development] CleanSweep93:
So which version should I flash to my Defy? There are several people who have uploaded, so what do i do?
[Defy Android Development] Sqoerk:
Can you tell us how you extractet the files out of the smg file?
[Defy Android Development] Simplestas:
So how come sbf is unsigned? What can be done? Maybe sbf_flash will do the trick/brick?
[Defy Android Development] Beach_Head:
I'm guessing it's an internal build or something...
[Defy Android Development] balinger16:
the easiest way is to have a machine with linux. then you just mount the cg39 file as a loop device (lots of articles on here that tell specifics) and it reads just like a cdrom.
[Defy Android Development] BizzaBoy:
Very cool (or uncool). Looks like all the 720p codecs are gone, and looks like it's still only VGA video recording ;-(
[Defy Android Development] Simplestas:
They aren't present in chinese leak either.
[Defy Android Development] BizzaBoy:
I suspect the 720P files could be borrowed from the Milestone 2 ROMs, as well as the required libOMX_Core.so, and the stagefright libraries.

However the bummer is in libsoccamera.so. Only 640x480 is supported for video recording ...

Does anybody have a link to a *.rar that contains /system handy to take a peek ?
[Defy Android Development] Aortner:
unsigned

ok the firmware is unsigned, somewere there must be a unsigned bootloader.

l

ets find it and we can have our own kernel....
[Defy Android Development] Simplestas:
So will anyone try system from this firmware with chinese boot?

I've prepared system.img backup:

http://www.multiupload.com/FFMPM052BV

Nothing removed, root added.

I can ask that guy with unlocked Defy but dunno if/how he can help. He seem to have usual firmware; this locked boot is likely deeper in hardware and can't be changed without special tools or jtag-like access. And if he's t-mobile employee or relative he won't risk his ass.
[Defy Android Development] ArcticFox:
Will it brick my phone, will i be able to reflash a backup of what i have now?

How do i flash it?
[Defy Android Development] Simplestas:
It doesn't contain recovery so you won't be able to restore your firmware/data unless you flash back to 2.2, reinstall root and custom recovery; but aside from that it should be safe as any other custom rom, usual risks apply. I don't have defy so i can't test it.

Read guide for another custom 2.2 rom, for example Higgsy Modded 2.2 ROM. If you're not sure in your skills don't try it first.
[Defy Android Development] ArcticFox:
Im already running a 2.2 rom but all this is a bunch of IMG files, do i just restore this using nandroid?
[Defy Android Development] Simplestas:
Yes, as well as i understand it. Note that data/cache will be wiped.
[Defy Android Development] ArcticFox:
Yes thats fine, i need to wipe my phone anyway.

Restored, waiting reboot.

Stuck in a boot loop, switch it on and it sticks on the Motorola logo then switches off and comes back on.
[Defy Android Development] edition-:
Try to flash 2.2 boot only following higgsy steps, if it doesn't work just do a normal wipe and it will boot.
[Defy Android Development] ArcticFox:
Tried flashing boot only and wiping but still stuck in reboot loop.
[Defy Android Development] Simplestas:
Could be that either i made image wrong or it is dependant on newer kernel. :o
[Defy Android Development] racca:
dling now, will give it a try. but i think we'll have to get the signed sbf or at least kernel part to take full advantage of it

update:

does not work with 2.2boot form china, replacing entire 'framwork' folder didn't work either.

update2:

so i extrcted everything except cg39 flashed the resulting sbf and it works on 2.51. haven't notice any difference yet.
[Defy Android Development] Beach_Head:
So you have it running?

Any screenshots?
[Defy Android Development] QNXUA:
According to motofan.ru forum this is the signed build of 2.2.1 from T-Mobile mentioned in this topic

http://depositfiles.com/ru/files/vrmtnqmg3

currently the archive is broken, waiting for new link :)
[Defy Android Development] slipknotfn:
I just clicked the link and it went to what looked like a file share page. I can't read russian and no translator @ work so... I cannot say if the download link would work or not.
[Defy Android Development] Simplestas:
This link should be working:

http://depositfiles.com/files/g5ve1ko2q

Will re-upload as soon as i can.
[Defy Android Development] Muznyu:
Anybody tried this signed version already?
[Defy Android Development] HiDef:
God damn, i tried this rom. You cant skip the motoblur account reg at first bootup.

Tried to reflash Chinese 2.2 after that and now my defy is completly bricked.
[Defy Android Development] Muznyu:
So RSD Lite doesn't recognize the phone, and you can't enter into recovery? :(
[Defy Android Development] Simplestas:
You sure? Not even a moto logo?
[Defy Android Development] HiDef:
RSD lite recognize my defy, but i can`t flash any other rom then this fu***** t-mobile test rom anymore. WTF :mad:
[Defy Android Development] Muznyu:
Did you wipe data and cache after trying another ROM? Or maybe a 2.1 ROM helps?
[Defy Android Development] BizzaBoy:
Did you try to flash the 2.21 boot loader ?
[Defy Android Development] Simplestas:
That can be expected. It supposedly has newer bootloader like 2.51 so you can't easily flash back.

What about root/recovery/camera? Are they ok?
[Defy Android Development] Bill Noneya:
I would do a hard reset and wipe cache. Then try to upload a 2.1 SBF.

So it went to the motoblur sign in and since you didnt have an account you decided to nix it and go back to froyo china?

If data wipe recovery works and you get back to the motoblur sign in you might try to deblur with adb and load a new launcher with adb also

Has anyone with motoblur tried it yet?
[Defy Android Development] BizzaBoy:
Not looking good. Signed me into my BLUR, but after a while of resyncing it freezes. N.b that it didn't clean out my old data. Trying to get to the factory data reset in the settings worked, but it didn't reset. I can get into the recovery, but there it seems to be stuck.

It still says "Bootloader 09.10".
[Defy Android Development] BizzaBoy:
ADB works. On the 3rd attemp doing a factory reset also worked. N.b. this is now under "Privacy" and not anymore under "SD card" where it used to be once.
[Defy Android Development] Bill Noneya:
Do a hard reset with the instructions here http://www.hardreset.eu/motorola_defy_hard_reset_soft_reset_en.html
[Defy Android Development] HiDef:
This method is not working, in the recovery menu the display is not responding on any touch (tapping in the lower right did not work).

In the Android settings (Factory data reset) is also not working, you can tap the button, but nothing happens.

Tried to flash the 2.51.1 UK rom, no luck. After that is the same like the other roms i tried. Screen turns black and after hitting powerbutton nothing happens.
[Defy Android Development] bihariel:
could someone who flashed, do a nand backup please?
[Defy Android Development] balinger16:
i use motoblur and did a wipe before flashing the sbf and everything is working perfectly. camera/root/recovery/overclocker all loaded.

regular recover. press volume up and down at the same time to show menu
[Defy Android Development] Bill Noneya:
Try uploaded defy_2.2_boot_only.sbf via rsdlite then try hard reset.
[Defy Android Development] Bill Noneya:
Fantastic. As requested before can you do a nandroid backup?
[Defy Android Development] HiDef:
Thank you, works!

What did you use for rooting this rom, SuperOneClick or z4root?
[Defy Android Development] Bill Noneya:
I would try z4root first.
[Defy Android Development] balinger16:
i am at work right now, and this is my work phone. if no one has uploaded one around 5pm eastern ill be home and get one.

this is reply to nandroid backup
[Defy Android Development] Muznyu:
So flashing back another ROM is not a problem?
[Defy Android Development] balinger16:
z4 didnt work. had to use one click
[Defy Android Development] BizzaBoy:
Factory reset worked. I got some inconsistent stuff on the first attempt. Coming from a 2.21 ROM it seemed things like that Data Meter were still there. After the wipe it was gone. IMHO one needs to do a wipe before flashing this ROM.

Camera works. The interface has changed. There doesn't seem to be a quick upload via MOTOBLUR anymore (needs to be rechecked; also the facebook upload is missing; maybe a delete/add of the facebook account gets this back). The camera interface & librararies are similar to the Droid X as well as to the 3.6.390 update (yes, the one I could not install because I screwed up my boot loader).

Quadrant is around 1100 for me, which is the same as with 2.21 and the dalvik updates. Looks also like a few OpenGL ES 2 bugs have been fixed ;-)

Cityville works, which means flash 10.1 is fine and dandy (no comments please, farmville is blocked ...)

The gallery seems to still have issues. Some of the pictures I took the other day with a 2.21 rom are not shown. Same goes for some of the ripped DVDs. Puzzeling. Upload via facebook fails.
[Defy Android Development] reinsen:
what languages are included?
[Defy Android Development] balinger16:
english, spanish, french
[Defy Android Development] HiDef:
With MoreLocale2 you can activate more languages. German for example is also included, but not shown to choose in the language settings.

Now after working Factory reset i will try to flash another rom for the last time. :D

Later on (i think it will take 2 hours) i will post a nand backup for the pros here.

Edit: It is definitely not possible to go back to another rom after flashing this one! :(
[Defy Android Development] Bill Noneya:
All good news. Now we know where to get a real fix for the camera for other roms. Also this deblurred and vannilla might be a decent froyo rom.
[Defy Android Development] Simplestas:
What about touchscreen issues? Chinese froyo has been reported to have problems with multi-touch gestures. And bad/quiet sound quality in video recorded?
[Defy Android Development] JamesDax:
Is wifi calling working on this rom?
[Defy Android Development] Bill Noneya:
That doesnt sound good. :( But it could work out for the best I hope.
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
Could this rom rooted by superclick?

Did somebody test this rom coming from 2.51?
[Defy Android Development] bihariel:
it is undowngradable, but you can restore nandbackups and flash zips from clockworkmod.
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
same like 2.51.

Did you test this rom?

Any problems?
[Defy Android Development] bihariel:
i tried it and i come from 2.51 and is rootable and it is a superfast rom.

i had to flash chinese boot only after restore my rom´s nandbackup, i think this new froyo t-mobile has a different kernel.

zero problems.
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
did you try a 2.21 or 2.34 or 2.51 nandroid backup to go back to android 2.1
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
Could you make a bootonly.sbf from new rom?
[Defy Android Development] Simplestas:
That won't work since defy recovery can't backup/restore kernel (boot.img) due to signature checks, am i wrong?
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
You could try to restore 2.1 rom and flash 2.51 odr 2.21 bootonly.

We should work on openrecovery it should replace boot.img with signature
[Defy Android Development] bihariel:
yes you can do that by flashing the suitable bootonly.
[Defy Android Development] JamesDax:
FYI

Apparently there is an update coming up for the US T-Mobile Defy. They made it availible to for some 500 folks yesterday(I missed it) to do some testing so it should be going public soon. Here's a link to some info about the update. Not a OS upgrade btw so no Froyo with this update.

http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles...Blur_Version.3.6.360.MB525.T-Mobile.en.US.htm
[Defy Android Development] bihariel:
here is it.
[Defy Android Development] BizzaBoy:
I had the zip-file here somewhere. However in order to use it you need a T-Mobile US 3.6.190 boot, which I don't have.
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
You can`t skip motoblur registration. :rolleyes:
[Defy Android Development] HiDef:
Here is a nand backup from this rom: T-MOBILE.US.3.4.2.NAND.BACKUP.rar

- factory resetted

- rooted via SOC

- nothing more

After applying this backup you have to flash the bootonly.sbf posted by bihariel above.

Keep in mind that you can use this rom only when you have/create a motoblur account!
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
You can install Launcher2 via a zip --> factory reset --> bypass motorblur

1. Flash T-Mobile ROM

2. registration for motorblur needed

3. root

4. install clockwork recovery

5. copy attached zip to root of sdcard

6. wipe via clockwork recovery

7. install attached zip
[Defy Android Development] JamesDax:
So, is WiFi calling working on this?
[Defy Android Development] balinger16:
yes, wifi calling is working
[Defy Android Development] Dude-01:
I've got the problem that i don't get any mobile connection with my german Defy. The only thing i can do is a Emergency Call.

Any solutions?
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
Mobile Date and calling works.

Do a factory reset via normal recovery (Power+VolDown)
[Defy Android Development] Dude-01:
Thank you for the tip but it only worked for a few seconds. Now I've got the same problem like before.

And for everybody who hates branded software: Don't use it. So much crapware. I hope there is a cleaned Version on the way.
[Defy Android Development] racca:
fantastic, now i have new toys to play with:D
[Defy Android Development] Muznyu:
Okay, it could be a noob question, but: if I'm restoring this nandroid backup and applying the bootonly.sbf, can I go back to 2.1? Or is it just the same as flashing the ROM via RSD Lite?
[Defy Android Development] Bill Noneya:
I would try the defy_2.2_boot_only.sbf pulled from the china rom file and not the boot only pulled from this rom and see if they work together. That way if they work you can revert back if you have to use the boot from this rom them you will be stuck at that firmware like the 2.51 firmware.
[Defy Android Development] JamesDax:
Is superoneclick working with this ROM? How can I root it?
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=913709
[Defy Android Development] Muznyu:
So the point is to keep away my Defy from t-mobile bootonly.sfb. :) I'm afraid this nandroid backup won't work with chinese bootonly... But I'll give it a try, downloading now.