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[Milestone 2 General] Cysign:
yesterday I've been testing a HTC HD2 Windows Mobile on-screen keyboard...since the sice is that tall and multitouch works fine I wouldn't need a physical keyboard I guess. Dows the software keyboard on Android work so good as well? So I could wait for LG P990 or Moto Atrix or Nexus S.

And it seems that I'm changing provider...as my O2 Germany contract is getting more expensive...those wired guys didn't tell me that my free-sms were only for two years...and now this contract seems to be more expensive than another provider...
[Milestone 2 General] cobo_:
If you are in Australia, and thinking of going with Optus for the Milestone 2, maybe call them to confirm.

I put in an order almost 3 weeks ago now for a Milestone 2 (re-contracting) and still haven't received the phone even though they have stock and it was apparently only going to take 3 days for delivery.

After half a dozen calls to Activations/Delivery Dept. @ Optus, still no phone...some "problem" with these phones at the warehouse in Sydney.

It's been escalated twice by team leaders to no avail.

So yeah, if you're going with Optus, maybe call them to confirm issue with the Milestone 2s before ordering or you may get stuck waiting in limbo too...
[Milestone 2 General] Shellite:
I learnt my lesson the last two times I tried ordering a phone from them, easier to cancel the order and go walk into a store. (Obviously you don't get the same 3 months free etc as you do ordering online).
[Milestone 2 General] stephengc:
The keyboard issue is a problem with the rom. There is a thread about it on android forums.com but I'm not aloud to post a link.
[Milestone 2 General] mkmck:
Hello.

In a few months (march) i gone get the new phone from the operator. I have a dillema what to choose - Orig. Moto Milestone or Defy which i would to sell and buy Milestone 2. But I would like to know about the future of this phone because at this moment there is no roms for this phone. How do You think, there will be some roms in a future or Moto has discouraged developers and users (known reasons...) at all? I'm asking because with stock FW with motoblur it is so laggy but i know it can more with this realy good hardware.
[Milestone 2 General] Cysign:
As I was going to by a MS2, i googled around...and found out that a lot of better devices, but without physical keybaord, will be released soon! Have a look at benchmark-results of LG Optimus 2X Speed or HTC Desire HD or HTC Glacier, Samsung Galaxs S2... if you don't need a physical keyboard, I'd wait till WMC is over and manufacturers provide some really good devices as far as MS2 is still out of date: encrypted bootloader and no android 2.3?! Sorry...no way. Especially since there are no patches for known issues...

I was going to buy a MS2 cause of it's physical keyboard...but since I've tried onscreen keaboard on WinMob6.5 HTC HD2 and HTC Desire with Android 2.1 I think I don't need physical keyboard any more!

Give it a shot and try out the 4" onscreen software keyboard - it's really good, u won't regret it!

That way u can get a big ammont of speed by buying a phone without MotoBlur and that crap...and especially without encrypted bootloader!

If u'd like to get newest Android updates....go for the Nexus S. It seems to be one of the devices with the fastest updates!
[Milestone 2 General] DeadSix17:
You are right.. dont buy it its just annoying to have a locked bootloader... buy the Optimus x2 its a awsome device with a big future and Dual core zomg!...

or even the Desire HD, i was about to get it ... but no i got the stupid MS2..
[Milestone 2 General] Cysign:
when I'd get a new device, I would choose between them.

HTC Thunderbolt 4G	- DualCore 1,2Ghz??, stand on it's back, 1800 mAh battery!

Samsung Galaxy S2	- 16GB + SD, DualCore

Xperia Arc	- Android 2.3, nice components....but as my actual phone is a Xperia X1 and there war bad support...I'm not going to buy a Sony-Ericsson next time!

Nexus S	- fast updates, delivered with Android 2.3 or even 2.4?!

LG P990 - HDMI-out, DualCore, delivered with Android 2.2 and updateable to 2.3 soon

Motorola Atrix - big advantage: ability to get a laptop-dock. put the device in, use it like a netbook. The revolutionizer! xD
[Milestone 2 General] mkmck:
Yeap You're right but those devices will be really expensive and not available in my operator in march when I'm gone get the new phone... I LIVE IN POLAND GUYS :/
[Milestone 2 General] Cysign:
couldn't you still wait 4 weeks for the new phone?

ask your provider to get a new phone one month later... those devices arn't much more expensive than MS2. what are your options?
[Milestone 2 General] mkmck:
Samsung Galaxy S - 999zł

Moto Milestone 1 - 599zł

Moto Defy - 499zł - Better but cheapper than MS1. I would like to sell it and buy MS2. But it's still no support to both devices (roms and so on)

HTC Desire HD - 1149zł

Maybe in march will be cheaper particularly because of the operator birthday :D
[Milestone 2 General] Cysign:
notonly in case of the operator's birthday... after WMC (world mobile congress) there'll be new devices and new pricings :) so don't hurry...just wait to become happy!
[Milestone 2 General] mkmck:
Yeap I hope so ;) WMC is on February?

Oh, I should sell my old phone before WMC to take more money xD
[Milestone 2 General] Cysign:
nahaha, of course u should :) good luck!
[Vibrant General] PSP_Hacker:
This is not a ROM, just an update on CyanogenMod progress for the Galaxy S.

Google Code page: http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod7-for-samsung-galaxys/

CyanogenMod forum thread: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/14168-gt-i9000-cm7-work-in-progress/

Copy pasted from Code page:

What's working:

* MTD
* Radio
* Audio
* GPS
* Wifi
* Bluetooth
* HQ Video PLayback
* internal SD-Card
* external SD-Card
* Light Sensor
* Acceleration Sensor
* Initial Updater-Script for first rollout

What's not working:
* LQ Video Playback
* Camera
* Polling problem on RIL
* 2G/3G toggle
* Compass
* FM-Radio
* TV-Out
* USB sharing of internal SD-Card

Impressive progress.

With this, and the newer official Vibrant kernel source pending to be released, we might have a 100% functioning CM7 on our Vibrants and therefore a completely AOSP Gingerbread. Though Team Whiskey already made an experimental Gingerbread build that mostly works. Either way I'm excited for this progress of bringing AOSP to the Galaxy S and it's variants (especially our variant :D)

EDIT: Sorry if this isn't fit for the development section, maybe it should be moved to general?
[Vibrant General] DaSmittyman:
FM-Radio? As far as i know it was decided that the vibrant does not have the hardware for this
[Vibrant General] XPLANE9:
Could they still meet the old broken camcorder and black and white previews issues on the CM6 build?

For me, as long as they fix the camera and polling, it is good for me. I don't have a data plan or use youtube very much. On the CMSGSTeam twitter it says coolya added some tweaks to the RIL java file.
[Vibrant General] geoffcorey:
this is the i9k, not vibrant. so the fm doesn't apply to vibrants.
[Vibrant General] iynfynity:
is it true that this roms allows us to use more ram?
[Vibrant General] XPLANE9:
No, the galaxy s has a maximum user available ram at 339 mb I think, provided by a speedmod kernel. The rest of the 512 mb is reserved for the video card, phone, and android system.
[Vibrant General] blizzard1017:
Anyone else besides me not see the download link?

On a serious note, it looks like the big guts of the project(basic functionality) has been done. Excited to see this when it comes to life.
[Vibrant General] player4lifeov:
I kind of gave up on any CM roms a while back. I donated to the cause and its been over six months already and nothing. At least nothing close to stable. I'm sticking with Team Whiskey . I love cyanogen on my.G1 but as far as the Vibrant goes I love me some TW. Who knows though, maybe I'll change my mind when it comes out
[Vibrant General] Holeblocker:
A small (hopefully inflammatory) question for ppl that are familiar with the Rom.

Is CM really worth all the fuss/hype?

I read ppl carrying 2 batteries for the sake of running cm6 beta...

And people fawning over the idea over Cm7, which doesn't seem to have full support from the CM devs to Bring it over to the Vibrant.

Is it that good of a rom? Vast improvement over what TW/D4A/Einharjar currently offer us?

(Don't have a phone that it natively supports Cm)

Just want to get some impressions, thanks!
[Vibrant General] NWolf:
Not really for the Vibrant. They have pretty much abandoned any of the US variant development and are sticking to other vendors and/or the international I-9000 model.
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
what are you guys talking about...

they are working on support for all the SGS variants.....

haven't u guys seen the twitter?.....

jeez
[Vibrant General] NWolf:
They've been "working on" it for months with basically nothing to show for it. I can put out all the twitter feeds I want, it doesn't mean I have anything useful. "TheDude" or whatever his name was/is that was in charge of the Vibrant development portion of CM hasn't updated his twitter feed in forever in regards to CM for the Vibrant. I'd call that abandoned.

The point is, there is nothing from CM for the US SGS variants available right now that's A) not already been done by everyone else and/or B) stable/reliable/working and/or C) A monster battery hog (due to it being based off the... wait for it... international I-9000 kernel. The last update for the SGS was in October... October! And that's the I-9000 stuff that does us in Vibrant land very little good. So not only was the last release from CM for the SGS more than 3 months ago, it was almost completely useless to the US variants.

So, that's what we're talking about. The fact that CM has released nothing relevant for the Vibrant since it was released. That's not a knock on CM, it's just a simple statement of the facts. CM is largely irrelevant to the Vibrant scene and that void has been filled by other rom chefs, as such, the CM name has simply been coasting on inertia since then. If CM came on the scene with the release of the Vibrant, no one would even know of the group/person because they've released basically nothing.

If you know of a single release for the Vibrant by CM since last July, I'm all ears. But as far as I know, and I'm pretty up to date mind you, there has been exactly zero released for the Vibrant and I'm pretty sure the same holds true for the 3 other US variants as well.
[Vibrant General] serendipityguy:
Thanks for this update and keeping us in the "Know", will look forward to this comple

Thanks for this update and keeping us in the "Know", will look forward to this completion and all of its features! :eek:
[Vibrant General] hazard99:
You are spot on with this....When I got my g1 it was people like cyanogen jesusfreak and the dude making roms. cyanogen has provided us with features and additions that we wish google would have put in place. I always default to cyanogen roms when available. For now though I am loving teamwhiskey so I do not feel like I am missing anything.
[Vibrant General] crazy25000:
I flashed cyanogenmod on a mytouch slide last night and the phone became 2-3 times faster than stock: it was the first time the phone could run a live wallpaper or play angry birds without any lag. So I'm pretty excited for this to be ported to the vibrant.
[Vibrant General] t1h5ta3:
OMFG. I haven't seen this much drama since jersy shore....

To the devs: thank you for your hard work and dedication

To the fan boys: keep suporting your devs!

To the haters: educate your self or pound sand.
[Vibrant General] gentw0:
http://www.codeworkx.de/download/cyanogenmod/CM6.2.0-GalaxyS-NIGHTLY.zip

Build date: 01.2011
[Vibrant General] hanbaoquan15:
That's not for the Vibrant. I don't think.
[Vibrant General] gentw0:
Works for the most part with eugenes kernel though...closest thing we've got lol

And judging from what was being discussed this was the link in question...my bad.
[Vibrant General] hanbaoquan15:
But isn't that the point. It's not FULLY functional. And the battery is not stellar either. Anyway. The mods will close this thread soon enough.
[Vibrant General] gentw0:
True, and I never claimed either to be the case.

Just added the link to show that it did exist.
[Vibrant General] MWBehr:
Wow. Gee thanks. You do realize that they're calling this a Galaxy S build instead of an i9000 build for a reason right? You did notice that Captivate and i9000 instructions are both available on the gihub right (Vibrant as well as other variations are excluded due to the lack of a physical phone in the hands of the developers). It will take minimal effort to have CM7 Galaxy S build running on all Galaxy S models.
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
what bugs are you referring to?
[Vibrant General] MWBehr:
Thank you, btw, for consolidating your points. I think this will help us keep this discussion more civil.
[Vibrant General] hazard99:
I think the biggest thing that I see being skipped over is that cyanogenmod is completely open source.

infact cyanogen was hit with a cease and desist. This lead to him(before he had a team) removing anything that that was considered closed source.

So yeah he has to start from scratch because they have a lot of eyes on them.
[Vibrant General] wacky.banana:
Closed till we can clean this up.

WB
[Vibrant General] mmelo76:
Cleaned Thread.

Deleted off topic / rude / trolls

Open Thread.

Please keep this thread clean!
[Vibrant General] All~G1:
The way I see it from a n00b standpoint is...

All the Vibrant devs creating ROMS are working off linear code supplied in the leaks, they are trying to "fit a box into a box" and doing a great job doing it IMO.

TD 'previously' created a ROM based off asop code & HTC drivers, so they are trying to "fit a triangle in a box".... you have to cut off the edges and fit the pieces in where they fit.

Without glue and other parts (source) it falls apart or just doesn't fit. All devs/ROMS would benefit from the release of the source, but with the lack of source buggy(minor or not) builds are made and an "official " release of anything CM will not happen if that's the case.

To me progress is progress. whether progress is fast or slow, and the final outcome is not up to par, above expectations, or never happens, is not up to me(or anyone else imo) to judge any dev on anything other then their efforts. Then again, if we have not given effort to a cause do we even have that right?

Anyway, that is Just my take on it.
[Vibrant General] XPLANE9:
The framebuffer got fixed, which I think was one of the issues causing the camera to not work.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] longvulong:
There is a serious problem with flash player in all Desire HD, Desire Z, MyTouch 4G.

NOBODY PAYS ATTENTION TO THIS PROBLEM.. I posted this message 4 or 5 times. There is audio only in some video feeds such as www.foxnews.mobi, and in some TV apps such as SPB TV2. Is there any solution for this? I think the problem is the media streaming app.

The reason I switch to Android is flash, but the flash does not work. This is so sad.

Thank you.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] WarlockW:
Search :)

There is a fix for the streaming video with just sound - Search :)

I did it another way I just used droidexplorer and copyed the files directly to the folders and rebooted and it worked,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=922595

I unzipped and copyed the system files to there place, lib files

" libmediaplayerservice.so , libvomemedia.so " to lib folder and etc file

" voVidDec.dat " to etc folder and reboot.. do not copy folders just the files to there place
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] longvulong:
Thank you so much, let's me give it a try
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Anderdroid:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...ion-samsungs-implementation-of-arm-cortex-a9/

^^^^^^

I'm sick of hearing people cry omg Tegra2 awesome. NO. It's great, but it's not going to make the Hummingbird obsolete. The Hummingbird has a better GPU. Balance it out and you get unnoticeable performance gains from a Tegra2. Not to mention the Tegra2 phones are coming out with Froyo which simply put doesn't have dual core optimizations, so in the end, it might even be SLOWER than the Nexus S.

What you should be waiting for is the Snapdragon and OMAP dual cores as well as the Orion. But these won't be out for a while, so why not get the Nexus S?

It's either or in this case. Don't choose a Tegra2 phone because it's a Tegra2. Choose it because it is the right phone you want, that will get upgades when you want, and is on the right carrier you want. Get a Tegra2 or a Hummingbird, that's all I have to say. They're about equal.

Just sick of the overpraise that the Tegra2 gets when we already have that power in the Nexus S.

Power SGX540 = Hummingbird.

By no means am I saying to not get a Tegra2. All I'm saying is to not avoid the Hummingbird because you think the Tegra2 is that much better or something.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jayrod1980:
Right on anderoid! Love hummingbird but I think I must have something wrong inside me. Kind off topic but I've had a siezure before and some epileptics electromagnetic field messes up semsitive electronics. After my workhorse 2 year old g1 I've had about 16 phones since then. 6 vibrants, 4 mytouch4g and warrantying my 5th and soon to be 6th sns. Granted not all problems have been pure hardware but these bleeding edge phones seem to be either fragile or sensitive.

That said, I love the nexus s. I loved humingbird in my vibrant and the awesome codecs but rfs and touchwiz and lag fixes drove me nuts. The nexus s on paper is amazing. Once you skin the outside or put a case, the scratch issue is pretty null and its such a clean beautiful phone. Cheap feeling? My ass. And it doesn't look anything like an iphone. The speed and battery life of hummingbird is amazing. Once google polishes gingerbread, especially gpu drivers or apps that jive better with it, I think people will regret passing it over. I've never had any slowdowns with it and dungeon defenders with no hacks or oc runs flawless.

Tegra 2 might turn out amazing but after tegra one was such a non starter (did it even make it into a phone?) And the gpu (nvidias pc meat and potatoes) not being as strong as an 8+ mo hummingbird, it seems to be a very short lived "king" if it amounts to that. I might end up very wrong but we will have to see what they bring when they finally go retail. The fact that the atrix needs a 1900mah battery scares me a bit. Maybe its needed for the extra ram and motoblur stuff, or extra resolution, but does anyone else not think it will get better battery life than the iphone4 or even the sns?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr.Clark:
If you're that desperate for a Tegra branded chip, hang onto your Nexus S until next Christmas and go for a quad core Tegra 3...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smilez_c:
THANK YOU, WELL SAID...I was explaining this to someone the other day and it just wasnt making sense to them for som reason
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] STHNS:
Well you have the right spirit but little miss informed. What you fail to see is it has dual die so 2 proc thread can run each at 1ghz compared to 1 die 1ghz. I love how Samsung folks always has to bring the GPU in it whats your point? SGX540 is slightly by very small margin wins against Adreno 205. So does that mean NS can hold its ground with MT4G it has better GPU following your argument? No why due to higher memory that is allocated at faster speed.

But I myself would be waiting for Qualcomm to deploy dualcore for me thats when its serious business. Far as Samsung device goes it is already obsolete this is not rant of any from if you want to be head in the Tech world then you better have money for the changes which you will be required every 4-6months.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mylexon20s:
I typically buy every new phone that comes out to try them and see if I liked it more them my blackberry bold 9700.. I would always end up selling them on ebay bc I didn't find much to love about them (i.e.- g2, vibrant, mt3g, g1 etc), after buying the nexus s, I was hooked. I had a nexus 1 for about two months and then sold that. It cracks me up to hear all the people already downing this nexus s. this phone is solid. I won't be switching to another phone unless it is pure google, no sense or touch whiz, and accompanies higher data speeds. A dual core would be nice , but until that happens, my nexus s is what I'm sticking with!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bratfink:
The simple fact is Tegra 2 and the Hummingbird wont stand a chance against Qualcomms dual core processors. Android at this point in time is more optimised for Qualcomm and being an owner of the Desire HD and Nexus S i can tell you the desire HD is much smoother even with its HTC Sense bloatware. But i can't stand waiting for updates so i gave it to my sister. But my advice would be don't get any Tegra 2 devices and just wait for the big guns (qualcomm)!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
nice GPU is nice, but GPU is mostly for games......for kids....you kids wanna play some games, get yourself an xbox or some ****....
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] STHNS:
Agreed, as when Qualcomm drops it thats when you know its serious business. Terga2 for the time being will hold the crown and make no mistake Hummingbird does not stand a chance against it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shep211:
Orion is going to be the fastest duel core chipset in 2011. The cpu can clock close to 2 ghz per core. Will have the same features that Qualcomms have that allow high linpack benchmarks (but not real world improvements). The hummingbird has always been the faster cpu atthe same mhz then Qualcomms cpus. Orion chipset is using a quad core gpu that performs better then xbox 360 gpu. I can not find any duel core that out performs these specs.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bratfink:
LOL?

Wait? The hummingbird has always been faster cpu at the same Mz then a Qualcomm? Lets think about where your getting that idea..

The Hummingbird deffinitly outperforms the Nexus 1, Htc Desire etc etc which btw are all 1st gen yet i agree have the same 1Ghz clock speed. But still in cpu extensive tasks the 1st gen qualcomms are still not that far behind. Looking at the 2nd gen qualcomms however such as the HTC Desire HD we see the cpu out performing the Hummingbird and only been let down my an extremely marginal difference in the GPU performance. So forget about spec sheets and look at real world usage. Grab yourself a HTC Desire HD with a gingerbread rom (what i had) and a Nexus S and see for your self which wins. Im sorry but Samsung are ****, Google is the only good thing about the Nexus S, but thats good enough for me.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
honestly i always thought that the first gen snapdragon, such as the nexus one, outperformed the current hummingbird CPU in a lot of certain types of computational tasks/tests. cpu vs cpu, its very close, the hummingbird doesnt have that much of an advantage. it does have a much better GPU, which is where it shines.

so i'd imagine if the first gen snapdragon is nearly matching current hummingbird, then imagine what second gen snapdragon dual core, smaller die, will do. (i understand hummingbird dual will also come out, but just saying it will still be close).
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
The second-gen snapdragon is the processor in the G2 and the Evo Shift 4G, isn't it?