yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sony Cross-Device General] G-FACE:
You need to install Flashmode driver from flashtool/drivers.

Seems like your x10 is not recognized by flashtool.

Install x10 adb driver and Flashmode driver from flashtool/drivers.
[Sony Cross-Device General] JahmanSoldat:
How to install it??
[Sony Cross-Device General] porkolt:
Is it the Generic version 2.3.3 build 3.0.1.G.0.75?

The MD5 does not match!
[Sony Cross-Device General] 9Lukas5:
yes, it is.
[Sony Cross-Device General] =NoXiouS=:
Still unusable

I really need a way to make this phone work. I'm stuck paying $60/month for this P.O.S. and I need to use the damn thing :(

Here is latest log:

02/039/2012 12:39:38 - INFO - <- This level is successfully initialized

02/039/2012 12:39:38 - INFO - Flashtool Version 0.6.8.0 built on 2012-02-26 19:26:25

02/039/2012 12:39:38 - INFO - You can drag and drop ftf files here to start flashing them

02/039/2012 12:39:45 - INFO - Device disconnected

02/040/2012 12:40:09 - INFO - Selected Sony Ericsson X10a_2.1.1.A.0.6_Rogers.ftf

02/040/2012 12:40:09 - INFO - Preparing files for flashing

02/040/2012 12:40:29 - INFO - Please connect your device into flashmode.

02/040/2012 12:40:34 - INFO - Device connected in flash mode

02/040/2012 12:40:34 - INFO - Opening device for R/W

02/040/2012 12:40:35 - INFO - Reading device information

02/040/2012 12:40:35 - INFO - Phone ready for flashmode operations.

02/040/2012 12:40:35 - INFO - Start Flashing

02/040/2012 12:40:35 - INFO - Flashing loader

02/040/2012 12:40:37 - INFO - Loader version : R4A024 / Bootloader status : UNROOTABLE

02/040/2012 12:40:37 - INFO - Flashing kernel.sin

02/040/2012 12:40:41 - INFO - Flashing amss_fs.sin

02/040/2012 12:40:41 - INFO - Flashing dsp1.sin

02/040/2012 12:40:49 - INFO - Flashing fota1.sin

02/040/2012 12:40:50 - INFO - Flashing fota0.sin

02/040/2012 12:40:51 - INFO - Flashing amss.sin

02/041/2012 12:41:03 - INFO - Flashing system.sin

02/044/2012 12:44:04 - ERROR - ERR_SEVERITY="MAJOR";ERR_CLASS="MEMORY_CLASS";ERR_STATIC="HASH_VER";ERR_DYNAMIC="Final data verification failed";

ANYBODY??? :confused:
[Sony Cross-Device General] 9andar:
Hi, do you follow all the steps HERE

Did you try with another rom ? a generic one instead of rogers one ?
[Sony Cross-Device General] laneyofdeath:
What did u flash pal?
[Sony Cross-Device General] =NoXiouS=:
Help please

I tried several firmwares. 1.6, 2.1 2.3 and even a custom rom.

Everytime it goes all the way to end and then fails :(

I'm uninstalling java updates and trying again....
[Sony Cross-Device General] =NoXiouS=:
Arrrrrrgh! I need this phone to work

I have accidentally spammed and I'm sorry if it annoyed anybody. I'm totally losing my mind over this P.O.S. phone....
[Sony Cross-Device General] x10forevers:
try using different computer pal....
[Sony Cross-Device General] =NoXiouS=:
BTDT

I've been bouncing back and forth from laptop (Win 7) to desktop (Win XP):confused:
[Sony Cross-Device General] G-FACE:
Start over.

Download this ftf: http://www.mediafire.com/?yrk3w24lrz0nfso

Open flashtool folder and inside is drivers folder. Start Flashtool-drivers.exe and choose "x10 adb drivers" & "Flashmode drivers".

Try flashing the file. (Stop any antivirus software while flashing)
[Sony Cross-Device General] user787:
Dead Links

Any one could please reupload any of these?

Specially the 2.0.A.0.504 build which is the one -i read here- could be compatible with my device/carrier/country

Thanks in advance
[Sony Cross-Device General] =NoXiouS=:
Still no love

Nope. I even used a machine without SEUS and PCC that had never had phone connected before. Same deal, all the way to 99% and fail.

ERROR_SEVERITY="MAJOR"ERR_CLASS="MEMORY_CLASS";ERR_STATIC="HASH_VER";ERR_DYNAMIC="Final data verification failed"; (and a box symbol at end of line)

ERROR - Error flashing Aborted

I'll try SEUS on this different laptop....
[Sony Cross-Device General] G-FACE:
I think there is some hash problem with the ftf you are trying to flash. Have you tried to download it again?

I have it, but it's Mtel branded (Bulgaria). You can try out though: http://www.mediafire.com/?dce6d2nq5ggj2oc
[Sony Cross-Device General] Bin4ry:
This error means that the flash itself was successful. BUT your phone fails to verify the data. So what can be wrong? Well first the transmitted data can be broken for some reason, but in this case a flash from another pc would work.

If all PC's throw this message your phones internal memory is broken, try to resolder it or give it to someone who can do that for you!

Regards
[Sony Cross-Device General] JahmanSoldat:
GUYS I NEED YOUR HELP!

I've root my phone, unlocked my bootloader and install drivers for my X10 but even with this, I can't install Xrec, button are grey [on Flashtool V 6.8.0.0] on firmware 3.0.1.G.0.75 BB71... I've deleted Flahstool 0.5.x.x (I think not sure about the right version) with this old version all was working perfect... so I need your help!

05/003/2012 01:03:40 - INFO - <- This level is successfully initialized

05/003/2012 01:03:40 - INFO - Flashtool Version 0.6.8.0 built on 2012-02-03 16:21:21

05/003/2012 01:03:40 - INFO - You can drag and drop ftf files here to start flashing them

05/003/2012 01:03:48 - INFO - Device connected with USB debugging off

05/003/2012 01:03:48 - INFO - For 2011 devices line, be sure you are not in MTP mode

05/008/2012 01:08:44 - INFO - Device connected with USB debugging on

05/008/2012 01:08:44 - INFO - Connected device : X10

05/008/2012 01:08:44 - INFO - Installed version of busybox : BusyBox v1.19.0 (2011-08-14 23:46:58 CDT) multi-call binary.

05/008/2012 01:08:44 - INFO - Android version : 2.3.3 / kernel version : 2.6.29-00054-g5f01537

05/008/2012 01:08:45 - INFO - Root Access Allowed

05/009/2012 01:09:07 - INFO - Pushing C:\FlashTool-0.6.8\.\devices\X10\busybox\1.19.0\busybox to /data/local/tmp

05/009/2012 01:09:07 - INFO - Running busyhelper

05/009/2012 01:09:08 - INFO - Running instbusybox as root thru sysrun

05/009/2012 01:09:14 - INFO - Installed version of busybox : BusyBox v1.19.0 (2011-08-14 23:46:58 CDT) multi-call binary.

05/009/2012 01:09:14 - INFO - Finished

05/009/2012 01:09:26 - INFO - Pushing C:\FlashTool-0.6.8\.\devices\X10\busybox\1.19.0\busybox to /data/local/tmp/busybox

05/009/2012 01:09:26 - INFO - Pushing C:\FlashTool-0.6.8\.\custom\root\psneuter.tar.uue to /data/local/tmp

05/009/2012 01:09:27 - INFO - Running part1 of Root Exploit, please wait

05/009/2012 01:09:27 - INFO - Running rootit

05/009/2012 01:09:30 - INFO - Waiting for device

05/010/2012 01:10:30 - INFO - Forced stop waiting.

05/010/2012 01:10:30 - INFO - Running part2 of Root Exploit

05/010/2012 01:10:30 - INFO - Running rootit2

05/010/2012 01:10:30 - ERROR - Cleaning rootit files

Mounting /system R/W

FTError

Edit: Nobody?
[Sony Cross-Device General] prim3geek:
help how to fix Error mounting /system rw? :( i tried using terminal emulator and typed

SU

then saw $ sign changed to # and typed

# mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock0 /system

nothing happened no error message just another line with # sign

then i typed exit saw #sign changed to $ then typed exit again and the app closes.

Plugged my phone in debug mode to my pc it was detected heres the log.

:( need help, as i cant root, cant install CWM cant do nothing..

heres my x10 info

Model #: U20i

Firmware Version: 2.1-update1

Baseband Version: M76XX-TSNCJOLYM-53404015

Kernel Version: 2.6.29

SEMCUser@SEMCHost #1

Build NUmber:

2.1.1.A.0.6
[Sony Cross-Device General] laneyofdeath:
Did u disconnect phone after part 1 of root exploit u have to leave it a moment before it starts part 2
[Sony Cross-Device General] ephraim25:
Me too please help, my phone messed up... can't flash using flashtool, can't update OTA,

Problem, Debugging is ON on Full Bot but when swithced to Flashmode it says that debugging is off even theough it is enabled.

Flashmode ---> Restarts ----> Switches to Charging Mode ----> Flashing Fails Here...

What I have already done: Installing Flash Drivers by Gordon, Installed ADB Drivers,Updated PC Companion, Downloaded SDK USB Drivers, all of these Didn't Work at all...

05/054/2012 08:54:50 - INFO - <- This level is successfully initialized

05/054/2012 08:54:57 - INFO - Device connected with USB debugging on

05/054/2012 08:54:58 - INFO - Connected device : WT19

05/054/2012 08:54:58 - INFO - Installed version of busybox : BusyBox v1.18.4 (2011-04-04 18:40:20 CDT) multi-call binary.

05/054/2012 08:54:58 - INFO - Android version : 2.3.4 / kernel version : 2.6.32.9-perf

05/054/2012 08:54:59 - INFO - Root Access Allowed

05/055/2012 08:55:15 - INFO - Device disconnected

05/055/2012 08:55:31 - INFO - Device connected in flash mode

05/055/2012 08:55:43 - INFO - Selected Xperia Live (WT19i)_4.0.2.A.0.42_UA.ftf

05/055/2012 08:55:43 - INFO - Preparing files for flashing

05/056/2012 08:56:06 - INFO - Searching Xperia....

05/056/2012 08:56:06 - INFO - Found at USB\VID_0FCE&PID_ADDE\5&32488A7&0&2

05/056/2012 08:56:06 - INFO - Start Flashing

05/056/2012 08:56:10 - ERROR - Error flashing. Aborted

05/056/2012 08:56:10 - INFO - Now unplug the device and power it on

05/056/2012 08:56:10 - INFO - Then go to application settings

05/056/2012 08:56:10 - INFO - turn on Unknown Sources and Debugging

05/056/2012 08:56:14 - INFO - Device disconnected

05/056/2012 08:56:28 - INFO - Device connected with USB debugging off

WT19i

Bootloader Locked

Firmware 4.0.2.A.0.58

Android Version 2.3.4

Baseband Version 8x55A-AAABQOAZM-203028D-58

Kernel: 2.6.32.9-perf

SEMCUser@SEMCHost #1
[Sony Cross-Device General] JahmanSoldat:
I've found the problem: it's the v6.8.0.0, my old v0.2.9.1 works great but now I'm forced to root with the v6.8.0.0... big **** version... ^^'

PS: can someone give me a link to an old version of Flastool (0.4.x.x or 0.5.x.x)
[Sony Cross-Device General] G-FACE:
Install adb and flashmode drivers from flashtool/driver.

Connect the device turned on to the computer, you will see that the adb driver is installed properly.

Then try to flash the phone again.
[Sony Cross-Device General] =NoXiouS=:
Thanks Bin4ary

Thanks Bin4ry for taking time to personally reply. Re-solder? I'm not doing that, I'd probably totally wreck it. I've invested far more time into this device than is reasonable. I'm taking it to my service provider's repair drop off center. I have no idea how long it will take or how much it will cost, but I just can't deal with it anymore. Happy Easter:cool:
[Sony Cross-Device General] yeeyon1990:
edited.. success download after using mozilla instead of google chrome..
[Sony Cross-Device General] G-FACE:
What does TA Backup mean? :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] king-iyokan:
Links not working.. Mirror anyone..? I need generic 2.3.3 for my X10i..

Thanks..
[Sony Cross-Device General] G-FACE:
^ http://www.mediafire.com/?yrk3w24lrz0nfso

http://www.mediafire.com/?h966l4ccbiv6j7a

http://www.mediafire.com/?748dtdp2sc7adfb
[Sony Cross-Device General] gazzthrex:
downloaded the flashtool but how to install it v0.6.9.1???...it's said v0.6.9.0 required,badly i missed it...any link for flashtool v0.6.9.0? thanx
[Sony Cross-Device General] Androxyde:
sorry it is a mistake on the webpage :-) you can start with 0.6.9.1
[Sony Cross-Device General] G-FACE:
Andro, could you please explain to a n00b, what TA backup means :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Androxyde:
TA is an area holding some parameters. For examples on 2011 phones, you can find the bootloader unlock key in this zone. To relock such phones, FT replaces unlock key with an empty string in TA.

You can edit it, play with it but take care cause you can brick your phone if you don"t know really what you do.

Backing it up is useful for devs who edit it and want to keep the original content.
[Sony Cross-Device General] G-FACE:
Is it means that if I make TA Backup and unlock 2011 xperia with flashtool, then if I restore TA the phone will relock the BL as it was at the beginning?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Androxyde:
yes

Blagus ftf to relock 2011 devices contains only one file : preset.ta which contains an erase of a part of phone TA

https://github.com/Androxyde/Flashtool/blob/master/S1Protocol notes.txt

at the end there is some info about the .ta format :-)
[Sony Cross-Device General] gazzthrex:
I'd try to execute the file in ProgramExe folder then got the startup error message, any idea?

(picture attached)
[Sony Cross-Device General] japinder:
Seems to be a problem with Java. You could try to update Java to the latest & greatest version. :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] laneyofdeath:
Yeah I think u need java runtime environment
[Sony Cross-Device General] Androxyde:
How did you install it ? it is an installation issue, not a java issue. Java is embedded into FT and never uses any system ones.
[Sony Cross-Device General] atintan:
Sorry for bothering, but I need the original Sony Firmware. All the links that are in this thread are not working. Can you please help me?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Madfysh:
this?
[Sony Cross-Device General] laneyofdeath:
No they custom (unless u from them countries. I'll upload global generic for u tomoz :-)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Madfysh:
Every fw is a custom :)

btw, NCB from second link is most generic one :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] bodomfan:
Will stock se kernel work om ul bootloader
[Sony Cross-Device General] 9andar:
Sure it works...
[Sony Cross-Device General] laneyofdeath:
Apologies androxyde it is embedded as u say. Sorry if I mislead anyone :-)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Emreguler:
flashtool doesn't recognise any of ftf files, it doesn't show the content what am i missing?
[Sony Cross-Device General] kevace1:
OK, so for all my fellow AT&T do gooders stuck on 1.6, here is how I was FINALLY able to flash 2.1 on my locked 1.6 x10:

on the first page of this thread, download the generic 2.0.2.a.0.24 firmware, unpack it, and in that said generic folder, use the x10Flash MS-DOS Batch file, it will open command prompt, and will ask you to put phone in flash mode. Turn off phone, hold back button plug USB, press any key to continue on the flashing prompt and LET THE FLASHING BEGIN!!!!

Warning!!!!!

i suggest you get the APN backup utility and make a back up file of it, so you can restore these setting so you can have data. This flash seriously erases EVERYTHING!!!! you will only get voice settings afterwards. Even then, signal is horrible for some reason..........wierd really i figure all GSM settings are the same but I guess not................
[Sony Cross-Device General] AgentFour20:
Download the correct ftf file for your phone then drag it into the firmware folder. Put your phone into flash mode then click flash. Select the firmware .
[Sony Cross-Device General] CAVEGIANT:
Hi,

Modicum of embarrassment here due to my lack of knowledge. I have been using HTC for years and was pretty good with them, however got given this phone under insurance and know almost nothing abut android (I read tons, but it makes no sense).

I have run this fantastic rooting tool, optimised and cleaned.

I have one issue now that not only do I not know how to fix, I do not know what it is called to search for it!

When clicking on a file from a browser, eg a wmv file, this used to load directly in the movie player and play; now it just asks to download.

Is there a way of switching this back to playing direct, or even better giving an option of save or open like windows?

Problem 2:

After taking a photo, when I click on the 'send' button, it used to give options of uploading to fb, mms, e-mail etc etc. Now nothing happens.

Am assuming there was some process that linked all the relevant files before, thatis now gone.

What is the proper name for this fault so I can ask google for answers, and secondly (and preferably) how do I fix it>?

Thanks,

P
[Sony Cross-Device General] aLPaSLaN07:
I downloaded the latest generic firmware and trying to flash it.. When I choose that firmware , lots of .sin files show up on the right.. What am i supposed to do? Choose all?

And one more question. When do you put your phone into flash mode? After choosing all and when it says put your phone into flash mode , when green led turns on press ok? OR before the proccess.. One more thing , do you stop pressing back button after you connect it?

God im all noob to this..
[Sony Cross-Device General] Androxyde:
sin list is just there to give you info about the content of the bundle. No choice to do. Put your phone in flashmode when the tool asks you to (a dialog box will appear after you clicked OK on the firmware selection)
[Sony Cross-Device General] CAVEGIANT:
Problem 2 fixed, by repairing with seus, then re-doing this process again.

Problem 1 still extant.
[Sony Cross-Device General] aLPaSLaN07:
24/056/2011 16:56:24 - INFO - Preparing files for flashing

24/056/2011 16:56:37 - INFO - Searching for Xperia....

24/056/2011 16:56:37 - INFO - Found at USB\VID_0FCE&PID_ADDE\5&36B1F8A7&0&5

24/056/2011 16:56:37 - INFO - Start Flashing

24/056/2011 16:56:37 - INFO - Sending loader

24/056/2011 16:56:39 - INFO - Loader sent

24/056/2011 16:56:39 - INFO - Flashing finished.

24/056/2011 16:56:39 - INFO - Now unplug the device and power it on

24/056/2011 16:56:39 - INFO - Then go to application settings

24/056/2011 16:56:39 - INFO - turn on Unknown Sources and Debugging

I did it the way you told me but I get no result. Proccess happens to quick (for a 200MB of a firmware) so nothing happens.. I turn it on and the same firmware.. I do the same proccess for the DualTouch add on and nothing happens there either.. I tried both 2.4 and 2.5 version of the flasher. Tried on different machines. Still the same.. In what step might I be doing wrong?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Androxyde:
Is there an error.log or an output.log in the FlashTool folder ?
[Sony Cross-Device General] aLPaSLaN07:
No there are no such things. I tried the nongui version also.. I copied the X10i_2.0.2.A.0.24_Generic.ftf file into the firmwares folder (don't know if its the way to do it though) At the end it said;

couldn't find xxxxx.sin SKIP

couldn't find xxxxx.sin SKIP

couldn't find xxxxx.sin SKIP

couldn't find xxxxx.sin SKIP

..

I've reflashed the firmware using SEUS and tried again but I get no progress..
[Sony Cross-Device General] Androxyde:
Try to install the flashtool in C:\FlashTool, maybe a path problem or white spaces in the pathname. How much free space do you have left ?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Androxyde:
Oh one thing, verify the MD5 checksum of the ftf file you downloaded and check if it is the same as in the first post. To be sure your download was complete
[Sony Cross-Device General] aLPaSLaN07:
Checksum was vaild.. Installed it in C:/ but still the same :) There is a tiny missing spot but I could not find it..
[Sony Cross-Device General] Androxyde:
Set the loglevel to debug in the help menu and post the log after having tried to flash
[Sony Cross-Device General] Androxyde:
Check your PM
[Sony Cross-Device General] Crowds:
excelent tool. congrats.

what i miss most is definatly a build.prop that can be loaded right after flash without have to reboot.

one question. how can i (if i) build a file from my custumized rom? is that possible? this will be an EXCELENT way for us to build/exchange custumized roms.

yet, once again...great build
[Sony Cross-Device General] Androxyde:
The decrypt option in the advanced menu does it but there is a little bug. And the next release will decrypt files and then open the bundle creation tool to create your firmware bundle with sin files extracted by the decrypt tool :-)
[Sony Cross-Device General] Crowds:
WOW :eek:

GREAT!!! release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, :D:D:D:D:D
[Sony Cross-Device General] shaunbu:
Flashing seemed to complete correctly and dual touch works in all apps after using the guide on this forum but in about phone the build number is still listed as 2.0.A.0.504 should I worry about this? Or is this value just read from build.prop (see loads of listings for it) and doesn't really affect anything? If so can I just change it to whatever?

I choose not to clear userdata dunno if that affected it.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Crowds:
well i guess you downloaded 505 instead of 024...no?

but i really don`t know the diference (if there is any) between both. anyway you can change that on build.prop if that bothers you:D
[Sony Cross-Device General] laneyofdeath:
Did u put .ftf files into \flashtool\firmwares folder?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Emreguler:
Yes, folder is right, also i've tried diffirent .ftf files, tried clean re-install, there is something wrong about flashtool. FT Just doesn't recognise the content of .ftf files.
[Sony Cross-Device General] laneyofdeath:
So they definitely in same folder as that ST18i firmware that appears in ur picture?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Madfysh:
@Androxyde: having problem with 0.6.9.1 version, after applying update.zip. After starting FlashTool, I get this in terminal:

and terminal close after 2,3 sec, falshtool doesn't even open.

Before applying stuff from update.zip, meaning 0.6.9.1 version, terminal opens, I get same msg like above, and flashtool starts, then after 2 secs this appears in terminal

but flashtool continues to work ok.

if it's any matter, using ubuntu 10.04, noob in linux(just started), so maybe it's my fault :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] yacloo:
I also had this problem

Change operation system localization&language settings from turkish to USA&English than flashtool will work

//Aga işletim sisteminin dilini ingilizce/ABD yap düzeliyor bende de aynısı olmuştu.

BTW EDIT: Flashtool 0.7.0.0 don't work ubuntu 12.04
[Sony Cross-Device General] reptayl:
Can someone help me whit this error?

22/024/2012 14:24:57 - ERROR - ERR_SEVERITY="MAJOR";ERR_CLASS="SECURITY_CLASS";ERR_DYNAMIC="SIN header verification failed"
[Sony Cross-Device General] 9andar:
Common error... already answered in post before... Please use search button...
[Sony Cross-Device General] Androxyde:
Your bundle is not made for your device or the bundle is corrupted
[Sony Cross-Device General] Realorasz:
Ok, yeah, I don't know what's going on. I'm getting that same thing, and I have both the 64 and 32 bit java runtime environments installed already. Win7 ultimate x64. Is there some certain thing I have to do with the zip files in the jre folder of the flashtool folder? Because no amount of searching is getting me an answer on that....
[Sony Cross-Device General] yacloo:
@Androxyde

I am sorry about that but I'm confused and I have a noob question for you

yesterday I flashed my phone via flashtool without any problem but I forgot about enable usb debugging but it was on MSC mode

flashing is ok phone works fine

What are the options required for only flashing
[Sony Cross-Device General] Androxyde:
No option required for flashing. Even if the phone is not identified by FT, it can be flashed.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Madfysh:
version 0.6.9.1 is having problems with flashing under ubuntu 10.04

with one .ftf it stops at 11% when it starts flashing system.sin, with other ftf some red error shows and flashing gets aborted.

I was in a hurry so I didn't take a note of the error, I just booted to windows and flashed(via 0.7.0.0) that first ftf with no problems.
[Sony Cross-Device General] vx117:
Link is Down

The link to Generic version 2.1update1 build 2.1.A.0.435 for the x10a is down.

Can anyone provide me a download mirror?

Thanks
[Sony Cross-Device General] 9Lukas5:
Flash the generic 2.3.3^^

X10_2.3.3-3.0.1.G.0.75.ftf
[Sony Cross-Device General] vx117:
How do I flash this, just with flashtool or do I have to do something else? My current Android is 2.1
[Sony Cross-Device General] 9Lukas5:
yes, simply with flashtool. But as always before you make an software update make a backup of all data you won't loose :D

L
[Sony Cross-Device General] vx117:
Help WIFI and 3G won't work!

I recently flashed the generic 2.3.3 for the X10a and now wifi and 3G won't work.

Is there a fix to this? Btw, the phone is on AT&T.

My friend is freaking out about this....

Thanks