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[Fascinate General] megalonebula:
Idk I just think the super AMOLED display is superior to all the others.
[Fascinate General] ilogik:
The fascinate was my first and last samsung device.
[Fascinate General] Droid_Hellion:
AMEN - Love my SF but the company has mishandled this product line, Wont trust them again.
[Fascinate General] orateam:
gotta disagree here. I love this phone. The screen is superb, the speed is the best of any phone i've had. I've owned the Evo, DroidX,2, and 3 of the Galaxy S's. The Galaxy S is FAR better than any other phone out there. My phone works great so i guess you guys all have buggy phones since you're blaming Samsung.

I have a 4 year old car that i just love, an R350 mercedes. It doesn't get updates for the GPS as often as newer cars, it doesn't have all the new features that seem to come year after year but i still can't complain.

I know the GPS had issues, but right now its no worse than it was on my droid2. And everything else is superior.
[Fascinate General] ivorycruncher:
I buy purely based on hardware. Software can always be fixed. If Samsung has the best hardware the next time I'm looking for a phone, I will buy Samsung again.
[Fascinate General] orateam:
My point exactly. For those that hate samsung because of froyo, they should ask themselves how they would feel if they had a droid2 or evo running froyo. I think they want a galaxy s. It's faster, better battery thanks to the Oled, better.graphics chip for awesome gaming and just ridiculous video.

But if all you want is a device that gets great benchmarks always running the latest o.s., then perhaps samsung isn't for you.
[Fascinate General] scriz:
You're talking about a $60,000 car that has no internet connection. Why would it receive updates?
[Fascinate General] iTz Nicholas72:
Having the wait months for an OTA update which fixed the GPS is amazing.

I know many of the users on here had DJ05 but what about the average smartphone user.
[Fascinate General] bL33d:
Really its just super geeks that are mad there is no 2.2 i left and went to a droid x for the 2.2 and thought i wanted a droid again just to be let down the phone is slower the screen sux and after the latest updates for teh fascinate it runs as it should.

I just ordered another fascinate and have my droid x for sale on ebay its about 2 weeks old. Any takers? starting bid is $275.

One HUGE prob for me is the locked bootloader sure u can run bootstrap but what if a sweet rom drops when ur away from home? ill tell u this dont try and load it till u get home cause even if u wipe everything and install as allways u might still get a 30.04 bootloader error and be stuck with a brick till u get home to sbf to factory.

That happened to me and i never touched it again as i knew i was fed up with motorola locking it down. Its a phone for people that dont want to customize there phone imo.
[Fascinate General] orateam:
Not sure about you, but most cars i've had get updates via a new DVD. What car you know of gets internet map updates?
[Fascinate General] dcow90:
A reasonable headed fellow
[Fascinate General] dcow90:
Thank you! I'm sick of all this whining about Froyo **** and about how "this is my last Samsung ever.. bla bla bla" It' a freaking software update and it will happen in time.. the lack of patience is incredible. Sure it's annoying, but enough to throw away the best hardware on the marked? I think not.
[Fascinate General] chronster:
i gave samsung one more chance with this after their abortion of thought in the instinct...

never again

sure the phone is adequate, but i was buying flagship. Not a flagship experience, by far.
[Fascinate General] crabjoe:
No matter what the hardware specs are, if the software isn't there to utilize it, it's worthless. And just because a company saying their hardware can do xyz, doesn't mean it's going to work the way it was supposed it.

With that said, Samsung's after sales support is the worst!! No way would I buy another Samsung phone, without seeing a good track record from them making timely updates ... I don't care if the updates are OS or bug fixes, I just want the support and Samsung has proven time and time again, they will not support there phones.
[Fascinate General] m91-30:
are you daft? roads change all the time, and even little, cheap tom toms get updates. if I had what is essentially a $60,000 GPS, I would want it to be updated, wouldn't you? as to how, DVD, as that is how most in car sat nav is loaded in.
[Fascinate General] times_infinity:
The Bionic is also going to have a lovely locked bootloader.
[Fascinate General] Poloasis:
What about the HTC Thunderbolt?

Should be pretty powerful and no boot loader, nice screen size but not sure what type of screen.
[Fascinate General] mexiken:
WVGA screen, Super LCD.
[Fascinate General] TheSonicEmerald:
Its not confirmed yet.

Rockin' DJ05, Liberty Gingerbread, Clocked at 1.2ghz Voodoo5

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DD username: TheSonicEmerald
[Fascinate General] mrmomoman:
I want to chuck the super laggy, high battery drain, no updating pile of steaming crap out the window. What a piece of crap. It lags like no other even after the small update. Fast processor is a waste with such bad UI and android implementation. Can't wait til they upgrade me. Yes I can root my phone but I can't do that for people I have told to purchase it. They thought GPS was gonna just work. Well not so fast. Its only slightly better now. Lag still there and can be replicated at any time.

Samsung and Verizon are the worse at updating this phone. I like the form factor just can't stand the lag and gps issues.
[Fascinate General] mAlfunkti0n:
Someone who actually gets it. I don't care if the thing has the most gee whiz bang CPU and 20TB of RAM and this and that, it doesn't mean a thing without the proper software to utilize it.

GPS performance was unacceptable, 15-20 minute lock times? No thanks!

Samsung warranty repair process? Worthless (sending back the phone with the same problem it went it with..)

It isn't that we want to run the latest OS, if that were the case, we would be complaining about running 2.3. 2.2 gives a good increase in battery life and a few other nice things.

Just wait until Samsung releases a dual core device with an OS that doesn't support it (you think they won't? take a look at the GPS issue again). Hardware means nothing when the software layer isn't written to actually make use of it.

You guys write off those that have complaints as just wanting the latest new shiny OS, but there is MUCH more to it. I buy a device and expect it all to work, not have to wait another 6 months for a release to fix things. I'll be moving on to another device that doesn't have the Samsung branding.
[Fascinate General] m91-30:
android is only on the 8th iteration. windows was in it's 8th iteration (that's not even counting the DOS versions that were also key to windows' functionality) before it had good compatibility and functionality, and it was much more highly funded than android os. hopefully, by the time 3.0 is released, it will have better compatibility with more hardware right out of the box. at the same time, hopefully hardware manufacturers will start standardising things more to aid in this process.
[Fascinate General] attitudes1:
Thank you. Im sick of this better hardware **** too!

An average user buys a smartphone for work for personal and social life. Basically trying make life easier, yes? While most of us on this forum can hack our phones and make it better. What about an average user? Oh wait i forgot, by the time GPS locks i already found the place yay!!! We do not hate samsung for froyo. We hate samsung for lack of support, and empty promises.

Better hardware means nothing when it lags or crashes... or can't get a GPS lock for 6 months. You can go build a top hardware pc that runs windows that crashes, bsod, viruses, and hardware incompatible. The list goes on and on. While i can get a mac that just WORKS that i can chat with friends, listen to music, surf anywhere,download anything without fear of catching viruses. See the differences?

Not everyones a nerd. That might surprise you but its truth.
[Fascinate General] iofthestorm:
We're not saying everyone is a nerd, we're just saying that for us, hardware is more important than software. Where do you see ivory pretend to speak for anyone but himself?
[Fascinate General] woolster22:
Whats so great about it? An LTE radio that will no doubt cost you 10-20 more on your monthly bill? Otherwise what is the difference? Same processor, same screen, and a more recent android version that will probably be outdated by the time it hits the market? Is this launching with froyo while gingerbread is available in Fascinate-Redux, or launching with GB? Dont really care, not looking to spend more on my monthly bill for something that will not be fully supported in the areas I spend the majority of my time in, thanks.
[Fascinate General] mAlfunkti0n:
So, you are OK with a company selling a product that doesn't work properly because they didn't want to plan and research accordingly?

This isn't a windows box. The only time you see compatibility issues are when a new OS is released and people upgrade before doing proper research.(in that case, it is up to the user to do research to make sure compatible drivers and software exist for their application). However, what this IS, is a phone, where people don't have the option of fixing things themselves. They depend on the manufacturer to do their jobs.

You guys seem to be OK with spending money on non functional stuff, which boggles my mind. Just because you may not use GPS frequently or at all, doesn't mean that it is obsolete to anyone else.
[Fascinate General] Remedyz:
I think those of us that have owned the fascinate since launch are nearing the end of what I'd consider rational patience.

One of the major reasons I returned my Iphone 4 (pre-ordered) and switched over from AT&T to give Android a shot was to take advantage of its free GPS functionality through Google Maps. I rarely require GPS, but recently needed GPS for a trip to Cornell University for an interview, do you think my GPS could get a proper lock to assist me getting there? Fat chance, I felt like chuckin' the thing on to the interstate while I was driving.

I made the mistake of trading my Droid X in for the Fascinate because the appeal of the Super AMOLED screen and hopes that a fix for GPS wouldn't take forever. I can't say it was a complete mistake, there are various nuances that make each phone stand out.

Flash forward 6 months later, and the picture hasn't changed much. In fact, from what I understand, GPS is non-functional across all or most Samsung Galaxy S carrier variations? How is that acceptable that this issue hasn't been resolved yet when you've sold in excess of 10million units worldwide? To me that's just negligence in terms of customer satisfaction for devices currently in customers hands. How the hell do you develop / repair brand loyalty like that?

I wouldn't normally find it necessary to purchase more than one smart phone within 2 years, but the fact that this device has seen little to no support updates since release is a fuggin' joke. I'm just glad I was smart enough to put in a request to change my contract to a 1 year within the 1st 30 days of purchase so I can get a discount when I re-up my contract this coming spring.

The Bionic / Verizon Atrix variant seems like the best choice this year. A Pure Google experience phone is really what I'm aiming to get next so I don't have to worry about crummy support from manufacturers to push out their delayed, modified versions of future Android releases. Even better would be if Google would release a developer phone on Verizon (CDMA & LTE compatible).
[Fascinate General] imnuts:
You understand incorrectly then. The latest update, DL09, fixes the GPS issue. As far as I know, the official updates that are rolling out to various carriers are fixing the GPS issues that users were having.
[Fascinate General] soba49:
I have seen a dramatic improvement in GPS performance since DJ05 & possibly further since DL09 came out. It isn't perfect, but fundamentally acceptable. However, it has been said that other phones, certain HTC models in particular, outperform Samsung GPS even now--due to specific flaws in the Galaxy's hardware configuration that software is unable to fully overcome. If this is untrue, I would like to see this rumor dispelled.

That said, I will probably look for specific hardware features in future phones as part of my decision, but I feel that DJ05 should have been released officially instead of leaving the primary user base hanging for two more months. And yes, I bought the thing expecting the "upgradeable to 2.2" label meant I could just install an upgrade shortly after I bought it - only that was my own newcomer's ignorance.

Because of that experience, the most compelling feature a phone can have is its dev community. You cannot put a value on it, and that will have the strongest role in my next choice. I am not beneath following a few of my favorites here either.

Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.
[Fascinate General] m91-30:
no, that's not what I'm saying. and you obviously haven't been paying attention to windows. you act like windows is perfect, and is right from the word go, always. that's not the case. I've had many computers that had the drivers for the OS, and were supposedly compatible with the OS, but weren't completely. now, I've only been using computers since 1989 or so, dos since dos 3 or 4, and windows since 3.0. native support for many devices took until windows 98 to be properly integrated. the same can be said for plug and play. my point being, android os is doing well for being so young, and being installed on so many devices with so many hardware differences.
[Fascinate General] Remedyz:
So what's all the talk on the vibrant forums about a hardware fix for the GPS then? Apparently murmurs of a low quality copper contact for the GPS receiver and antenna. Don't get me wrong, I hope the issue is only software related, but then again if it was only software related I would think the update for the fix would be out by now. I will have to give DL09 a try, either way this whole debacle feels like too little too late.

This experience with this phone definitely makes me question ever purchasing another smart phone from Samsung with major defects at launch. 6 months isn't a realistic time frame to get an important bug fix to such a large user base.
[Fascinate General] ivorycruncher:
Wow, a lot has been said here. To clarify my previous point, I understand perfectly that good hardware is fairly useless without decent software to back it up. For me, I don't worry about stock, because I know that XDA devs will always hook me up, even if I have to make a small donation first. :D

I also understand that we geeks (I take offense at the word "nerd" btw) are by far in the minority when it comes to Android users, so most Fascinate owners are stuck with the stock OS. However, is it really that bad? If the Fascinate was so horrible, it would get terrible reviews, and nobody would buy it. The same goes for any other Galaxy S phone, which Samsung has now sold over 10 million of. They are good phones overall, and they work just fine for the average consumer. If a Fascinate owner isn't geeky enough to come looking for custom ROMs and other fixes, then the stock experience will likely suit them just fine. For the ones that want more out of their phone, XDA provides. I certainly want to get the most out my phone, and I may rant about Bing and other bloatware, but honestly, I was impressed with this phone even as it was out of the box, and given the choice between the Droid Incredible, Droid X, and the Fascinate, I'd still take the Fascinate every time.

Now, in an attempt to steer back on topic, I will say that I am interested in what the next gen GS phones are capable of, but I don't plan on upgrading soon. I'm already quite pleased with the performance, and I haven't even tried Kaoscinate yet, so there's plenty more fun to come. I sure hope that Samsung has worked out some of the kinks in their new design though, such as GPS and poor in-call speaker quality.

Posted from my DL09 SuperClean Fascinate with Voodoo
[Fascinate General] kent1146:
Meh. I have always had poor experience with hardware reliability when it comes to Motorola products, so I'll be staying away from the Droid Bionic.

And I'm in *LOVE* with the AMOLED screen of the Samsung Fascinate. Yes, the Samsung Fascinate is unusable in its stock form, with all of the Verizon bloatware, exclusion of Google Maps, and the idiotic decision to use that P.O.S. Bing as its default search engine. And yes, it's a pain in the butt not to get software updates.

So it forces us geeks to go to custom ROMs to get the phone to behave the way we want. But honestly, isnt' that the fun of it? Wouldn't we be going to custom ROM's anyway, even if the stock experience was brilliant?
[Fascinate General] imnuts:
I believe it could be a difference in hardware configuration between the devices. Although they are mostly the same, there are some minor differences. Personally, I haven't had GPS issues since getting off DI01, and there are many others that have had similar experiences. Not saying that hardware isn't a contributing factor, but for me, GPS performance is at least on par with my previous phone. If I wanted better GPS performance, I'd use a dedicated nav unit.
[Fascinate General] suzook:
DL09 Has made my gps very usable...5to15 seconds lock. Thats good enough for me.
[Fascinate General] stayin100:
Couldn't have said it better myself.
[Fascinate General] Remedyz:
DL09 has resolved GPS failure to lock, therefore no NEED to upgrade anytime soon.

Any improvements introduced in the Galaxy S successor will likely just exceed my needs. I'm still very interested in seeing the official specs which will probably be revealed at the MCW conference next month.

Would like to see a side by side comparison of a Super AMOLED and Super AMOLED Plus in the direct sunlight to see how much visibility has improved. Perhaps it's just a marketing gimmick to get adopters of the original Galaxy S to upgrade soon.
[Fascinate General] ezas:
I have 5 GPS's. Car, hiking, motorcycle, running, and now phone. Since the update my phone's GPS is inline or better than all of them for lock and accuracy.

As for this thread, I'm satisfied with this phone. Getting around Bing was easy enough even without rooting. And Launcher Pro let me 'hide' apps I don't use. And since rooting I really have no complaints.

So this thread has devolved into another pointless froyo cryfest. Keerist so much whining. You never buy tech toys based on a promised feature/upgrade. This phone just had an update so the whole samsung/verizon don't support this phone rings hollow.

I'd buy this phone again.
[Fascinate General] destroyerbmx:
I disagree with the droid bionic being a better phone, the Atrix is a good phone, but its plagued from birth being a motorola. Bionic has 512 ram, where the S2 is supposed to be 1gb, the tegra 2 vs orion is yet to be decided. Samsungs GPU processor on the original S is better than anything else, so I doubt the tegra 2 is going to blow the orion away. Stats on the S2 are pretty good compared to the bionic, but samsungs unlocked boot loader puts it leaps in front of the bionic to me. I am waiting to get a comparison through with the tegra 2. Just sucks to see motorola get ahead on such junk, like the droid X, big outdated inferior junk compared to the galaxy s, but verizon pushed it and screwed the S to make it sell better.
[Fascinate General] Jrex:
Very well put sir!
[Fascinate General] TheSonicEmerald:
I'm still not sure Samsung can successfully deliver a device that can compete with the Bionic in ALL areas; GPS, Signal, build, updates.

Rockin' DJ05, Liberty Gingerbread, Clocked at 1.2ghz Voodoo5

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DD username: TheSonicEmerald
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Natascha303:
Anyone knows where to buy a 1012 build, that ships overseas as well ?

Got a 1009 from ebay and im going crazy with it.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aalh:
why?

I had one and took it back due to shutdown issues

I now have a 1007 and it hasnt had shutdown issues since I flashed some of the later roms and kernels on xda, and the gps is fixed
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nailerr:
A simple question for all out there, has anyone found that the update to Goggles which added a "torch" button for pre-picture illumination simply times out or just does not work when taking a shot?

I ask because my camera is not mounted on the PCB properly (slightly twisted to the left) and I thought it was likely Google would notice such a big very quickly, but it has not yet been solved here, so I am now wondering if my hardware is faulty.

Camera seems to work, just the LED in Goggles. Anyone?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Accessories] ee41rr:
PM me your address and I'll send it to you. No catches.

Regards,

Rob
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Accessories] ee41rr:
To olly

I'm willing to send it because a) I found it in my bag after not having the device for five years b) I imagine they're difficult to get hold of.

Cheers,

Rob
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] da-pharoah:
Hello everyone.. I have been wanting to check out new roms but I can't seem to figure out what the apk is for the (pull down)taskbar or how to extract it for use with other builds or it may be known as the notifications bar but I can't figure it out to save it for later... I'm currently just running motomans Carbon Evo remix and its sweet but I just cant find a way to extract the taskbar as it has nice little shortcuts I use and love... I usually keep little things like that from other roms that make my phones life much cooler.. like the transparent Google search bar i got like a thousand builds ago from a different rom and the transparent HTC clock.. but I'm not seeing taskbar.apk or any apk that has the word task or taskbar in it in the system/apps folder... can anyone help me figure out how to extract the taskbar from this carbon Evo build so I can use it with other builds?

Thanks in advance...

My current setup is:

Tmous HD2

Android: Motoman's Evo Carbon Remix

WM: Elegancia V3 Final

HSPL 2.08 Class 6 8gb

Radio: 2.15

Sent via Android HD2
[HD7 General] rscaramelo:
So is there any hope for TMobile UMA/wifi calling on the HD7? I've called Tmobile and checked google and it doesn't look good. I don't see any real 3rd party or hacker solutions either on the horizon. This is a deal breaker on the phone since my house seems to kill cell phone service. I have had this useful function on Blackberry's and on Android.

thanks,

/rc
[HD7 General] rscaramelo:
I was thinking about getting a cell phone repeater/booster for the house. Anybody have any experience with these?
[HD7 General] shehrammajid:
I do...I got a free one from T-Mobile as a trial...it works wonderfully...I have a vibrant and my brother has a hd7. Before we couldn't even get data on EDGE. Now with the cell booster, I consistently get 5.3 mbps downstream on my phone and brothers is working awesome as well. There's a thread on how to get the device ( you can't just call T-Mobile). Look in the Samsung vibrant general forum and search for booster or cel-fi repeater. I'm on ny phone and I don't know how to give you the link on here....lol hope this helps.
[HD7 General] shehrammajid:
Got it :-)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=815637
[HD7 General] sbrownla:
Sigh. I really need something ... It's frustrating not having service at home at all. I guess I'll just have to get a different phone with WiFi calling.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ratatouille:
Hello to you all. Could you help me decide which rom to run? I actually use Paragon 3.0, and waiting to get gingerbread on captivate. I had it on my i 9000 from Bell but SD died and I got the captivate instead.

Thank you
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbcap43:
check out firefly or phoenix.... but then i'm addicted to flashing (with out the creepy black trench coat, of course!)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ratatouille:
Yeah me too. I think I got in problem with Gingerborg stuck in boot aimation