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[Epic 4G General] tt c6:
They need to provide a date.

Then, then need to provide a reason for the delay and state what their intentions are for future updates.

Frankly, the OPTION of updating plain Android DIRECTLY from Google needs to be offered ASAP.
[Epic 4G General] running_the_dream:
Hmmm, I could have swore I inserted a hyperlink here before I reached 10 posts. Oh well.
[Epic 4G General] v3rk:
i don't see why they need to give a date. they've taken their sweet time with and without dates. i'm as anxious as the next guy but giving a date won't change that
[Epic 4G General] monotune:
yeah. this is BS already. it was supposed to be dropped over a month ago! :mad:
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
the also backed away from asap saying the the update is STILL in the works meaning the arent even in the testing phase yet. Sprint has turned me off to the products time and time again. this is the moment debacle all over again and im fearful that the result will be much the same. Its been almost 2 fricking years and they still cant seem to get it right. Sammy or sprint they need to get the collective heads out of their asses! I feel T-mo spit the bit once there was a online revolt on the way i urge all of us to apply these same pressures to force the issue that they need to push this product out to us. I bought 2 docks that dont even work right that came with labels saying i will get full functionality once froyo was out that was months ago this is crap. sorry for the rant.
[Epic 4G General] stevesprivateaccount:
It may be a newer feature/limitation. I know i ran into it when I had to create a new login (I forgot my login from a long time ago when I was here during the Windows ROM days, and have since changed my email accounts too).
[Epic 4G General] blackdragon79:
So far you the only one sprint selected to send a email to about the update.
[Epic 4G General] v3rk:
here's the email:

i guess she took some liberties telling me about it over the phone. same ol same ol
[Epic 4G General] blackdragon79:
This was posted on facebook yesterday
[Epic 4G General] deisel:


Lmfao I tweeted to sprint similar **** last week
[Epic 4G General] cbpagent72:
So you will get an update every year from Apple instead of a couple times a year with Android?
[Epic 4G General] daddymikey1975:
At least one could count on consistency in this regard..

android updates.. yeah, but the device manufacturers don't necessarily update their devices a couple times a year, do they ? (android updates, not bugfixes)
[Epic 4G General] AmericanJedi001:
I didn't think I could fit "Sprint Tweets FroYo Update for Epic 4G Coming As Soon As Possible" where the entire post title would be readable from the forum index. ;)
[Epic 4G General] running_the_dream:
Lol there's a blast from the past!
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
fascinate got its froyo today. rumors say sprint on tuesday...
[Epic 4G General] itsmebryan:
Where did you get the info about the Fascinate? I checked the Fascinate forum no one there are talking about getting a update. So far I have only read t-moble got the update.
[Epic 4G General] josidhe:
I'm honestly at a point where if I'm going to be an Android user beyond this particular handset, and the update process is actually no different 1.5 years from now, I'd rather pay for updates than wait for vendor charity.

People say silly things about how if you want easy updates, get an iPhone. It's really not much of a joke anymore, kids. Apple has been pulling off simple, streamlined updates for their hardware for years now. Android, which had a chance to learn from the iPhone, can barely keep a six month old phone relevant. Even Windows Phone isn't living up to the easy-update hype now that we've learned carriers will control when to push the updates to users.

I've never owned an Apple product in my life. I've used pretty much every mainstream x86 OS of the past 20 years, and have owned WinMo handsets and two Android handsets because I care a lot about having control over my computing experience, but I've already decided that my first slate will be this summer's iPad. Why? Because I don't want yet ANOTHER source of stressy complications in my connected world. I want at least one piece of hardware that I know with certainty, when I read an article about a software update going gold, I'll be able to install it within a week.

The entirety of the tech industry has evolved and succeeded in an environment where we've been allowed to keep our hardware relevant for as long as it can execute modern code. Smartphones are the first time we've really been bent over, where even when we can run around praising a platform for being 'open' at its core, EVERYTHING that layers on top of it to make it actually work is still closed and proprietary, leaving us at the mercy of profit-focused companies that can't wrap their brains around the simple fact that 2 year wireless contracts aren't compatible with declaring a phone EOL in less than a year.

/aside

I love all the community work being done by folk like noobnl, and I look forward to pretty much shedding stock Android for something more AOSP. That doesn't make it any less frustrating, though. The platform should be more consumer friendly right out of the gate. Is it going to take a PC-ification of the smartphone, with hardware standards that can be communicated through by any OS? The driver nonsense is so far out of hand it's like buying a computer in the early 80s. At least back then, a modem was a modem was a modem, and we all used the same kind of phone line. Having endless types of wireless networks guaranteeing frustration when it comes to choosing hardware only seems to bother the minority geek population, so do we need to find some way to campaign to make Joe Facebookuser care, too?
[Epic 4G General] schnowdapowda:
Apples updates are kind of vanilla half the time in my book.. most of the time they just patch things that mean something to them as a business like security holes that allow jailbreaking, etc. Can anyone name something from the latest ios update that wasn't already supported in eclair? Correct me if I'm wrong I'm just going on what I've learned comparing phones with friends.

cd's or tapes?
[Epic 4G General] cary328is:
The LG Ally got Froyo today NOT the Sammy Fascinate
[Epic 4G General] schnowdapowda:
News says otherwise. Dl09 I believe I the release.

cd's or tapes?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobofosho123:
Hey everyone-

I believe this question has been posed before, although not for the specific update arriving tomorrow. I was wondering if I should flash back to stock to receive the new update? For some inexplicable reason I really want to receive this puppy directly from Magenta itself, perhaps because its been such a long time coming and I want to see that sweet update option in the settings menu actually work for something. Thanks for your help in advance.

-bobofosho123:cool:
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayprime:
To be 100% sure to that your going to get the ota update you should not have flashed a custum rom. But to have any chance of getting an ota yes you should return to stock. I would just wait and grab a flashable or tar version off here when it comes out.

Fear the beard...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobofosho123:
How would returning back to stock give me any less chance of recieving the OTA than someone who hadn't rooted and flashed a custom rom on their phone? Unless t-mobile can somehow tell the difference wirelessly between a rooted and non-rooted phone. Just curious, thanks.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] All~G1:
Are you currently running a ROM? Yes? Then you're not missing anything. Trust me, wait for the devs. If they get source then you'll be flashing updates by tomorrow night. Pretty sure the stock release will be behind the curve anyway; that or it's KA6... Imo.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobofosho123:
Yeah, tbh the nero v5.something ROM I'm running now is probably miles better than the new stock update anyway, lol. If only samsung would actually partner with these devs unofficially to help spur along development. Sighhhhhh....
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] All~G1:
Patience bobo.... Patience.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xriderx66:
U guys r idiots. Sorry for saying that I'm tired of people saying neros better than official.

No its not.

Neros based on a ecalir base, with froyo leaks from samsung.

If there was a official these roms would go from fast to HOLY ****!

Samsung is needed.

Devs modify.

Samsung creates.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gagb1967:
To be sure to receive the update, Odin back to stock JDF or JI6. However if you already flashed, probably you will get it faster if you wait for the download link tomorrow, I bet you it will be up before night.....

It is probably the KA6 release anyway, that was posted here Yesterday
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cvibe88:
Chill the fudge out mayn, You cant even say that yet. Yeah Nero is based off of eclair and what? TW did more with eclair than samsung has. Besides, for all we know samsung is still implementing their RFS file system. Samsung creates source. that is all.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobofosho123:
'aight. can do. ;-)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] topspin72:
Ive done everything there is to do to try to activate windows 7 live and market....tried 4 times and I cant change the HD2 saying its a Leo70...How do I change that in order to download apps from the market.... any help? thanks
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] homer.web:
You have to do exactly this:

1. Install WP7 sdk Windows Phone Developer Tools;

2. Install zune;

3. Make partneship with zune and phone;

4. Attach the ChevronWP7.cer(you found in the toolkit) to your email and send the email to your email itself (On PC);

5. Login to your email account (On Phone), Open the email, Select attachment and install the cert;

6. Connect your phone to pc and make sure zune is running in background;

7. Run the unlocker (ChevronWP7.exe) and click unlock button(Make sure your phone date is set correctly)

(you need to close skype and disable network adapter.. hamachi.. wireless.. Dropbox.. etc)

6. Install toms .xap installer;

7. Deploy Connection Setup.xap, Touch Xplorer.xap and XBMODDeployer.xap (Install it on the phone and run XBMODDeployer.xap);

8. Copy the .provxml from the ringtons folder to the windows folder (on the phone using touch explorer app);

9. Run connection setup to install the .provxml;

10. Call Microsoft helpdesk and ask them an activating key for your hd2 (don't pm me for the key)

11. Setup up your live ID and enter the activation code (on the phone).

The whole thread is here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=911579
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] topspin72:
Ive dont that whole process like 4 times and my phone is always a leo70 and I cant download apps from the market after activation with a key that I got from MS.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] CrAzYiaN:
you sure you did this part

8. Copy the .provxml from the ringtons folder to the windows folder (on the phone using touch explorer app);

9. Run connection setup to install the .provxml;
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] topspin72:
yes several times
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] CrAzYiaN:
Start from scratch again then, Make sure you don't skip ANY steps, as they are all important.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] topspin72:
Alrighty one more time thanks
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] chrisizzle492:
make sure date & time is not automatic

and that ur location is us

activating live services took me 2 days. i ended up having to do a clean install of windows 7 64bit ultimate
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
Is anyone on stock and want to try this:

1) Turn off auto date/time

2) Push the date forward a few weeks or so, like mid Feb.

3) Try Software Update in settings menu. Or, the *#*#checkin#*#*.

I recall that in the past on certain carriers and phones, people have been able to push updates this way.
[Vibrant General] jellette:
Nope, not for me.
[Vibrant General] krazie1:
Nope, i just tried im on Stock JFD. Yeah i odined back.
[Vibrant General] presence06:
Won't even let me keep the date I change it to
[Vibrant General] cervantesjc:
Dude the update satarts to roll out tomorrow around 3pm, if its released so there is no way anybody will get it this way right now.
[Vibrant General] shreddintyres:
I'm fairly certain simply changing the date on your phone will have no effect as to when you receive the OTA. My understanding is that the OTA has to be loaded on local servers then to the towers. T-Mobile is likely to send out the OTA in such a fashion as to minimize the load on their network. So we will likely see an update pattern very similar to that of the JI6 update (not in terms of who got it first but rather the seeming randomness). Please correct me if I'm incorrect.
[Vibrant General] presence06:
That sounds about right. It will be totally random but a group of people will get it, then some more later on and so on..
[Vibrant General] n2ishun:
Hahahahaha!!!!!11

Umm....yea.

I guess all the servers/routers/switches/hubs upstream of you that have a live time and date stamp would be fooled by this simple minded ruse.

Yep, I can see changing the time on your phone would easily over rule logic and programming.

Please, be serious willya ?
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
Your being ignorant, that trick has worked before on other phones, he's suggesting it.
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
JUST FYI, this HAS worked on Android phones in the past.

However, I don't think it works anymore. Even if you change the date and time the Vibrant always reverts back to the proper time, even if disabled.
[Vibrant General] All~G1:
Lol... Pretty simple here guys... If you put your hands under an automatic faucet with the water turned off, is the water still gonna come out?

Hold your panties tight ladies, samsung could just be slipping you some ruffies... Wait till the party is over, or better yet, wait till the next morning to see what you wake up with.
[Vibrant General] iynfynity:
yeahey!! i set my date 15 years earlier, now i'm only 3 years old!!
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
Ugh. As others have mentioned, it has worked with other phones in the past. Frankly, why would the update have to be stored in a local server? That makes no sense. Why would it be pushed based on locale? If the rationale behind pushing it out over time is to avoid overloading the networks, it would be counterproductive to do it based on tower or locale.

My understanding (and I could be totally wrong, I don't know for certain) is that it's done by assigning your IMEI to a specific date. This makes sense to me as a way to minimize stress on the network (as opposed to hitting everyone within a certain locale, which would just destroy throughput in the active towers). I think this is why it's worked in the past--the datestamp must have come from the phone.

I only suggested this because it's worked in the past and someone here claimed to have received the OTA already. I'm guessing it's a hoax, but I don't think it's beyond reason to think that the download servers are already up and just waiting for H-hour to start going through the list.

I don't care about the OTA and have no particular desire to flash it, but I would love to download it early and do a system dump for everyone here.
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
Just thinking about it... even if T-Mo has to push it out to local servers, do you think it will take weeks to do it? Gee, we're talking about a 300mb file and other assorted files required to push it... I doubt they're sending out via UPS Ground (maybe something a little faster, like, um, I dunno, ftp). I'm guessing the logistical issues are pretty much done and we're just waiting on the clock.
[Vibrant General] pulser_g2:
This method has worked on most HTC phones using FOTA systems. It seems they can be fooled into giving out the update via some combination of date changing...
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chitopr:
Can somebody tell me how to root a my touch 4g ? I'm kinda new at this and want to learn.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bupahs:
Google VISIONary (r14) place it on your device, install it then run it. Temproot is for temporary rooting your device, its gone after a reboot, permaroot is for good, unless you use the unroot option.

Its safe, fast and easy. I use temproot option so I can use some root only apps. This is the first device I have felt no need to add a custom rom to or anything so VISIONary was the choice for me. If you want the long harder way directions can be provided. I do recommand you learn the long hard way at some point, its good to know your way around just in case.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neidlinger:
first of all rooting is not for everyone. I can name a few people in a few forums that do not run a rooted phone for one reason or another. Rooting your phone gives you possibilities that are not even considered when you are in a stock form. But on the other hand you can seriously damage your phone, with the possibility of it ending up a 500.00 paper weight.

The safest and easiest thing to do is download VISIONary.apk and just use temp root. That will give you the ability to do everything you need to do in a root status w/o risking FUBARing anything. You can wi-fi tether, run Titanium Backup and stuff like that.

If you are wanting to go full blown and root it w/ s=off and do the

you can do it the real way and follow Cyanogen's method

Or you can do via the TheUnlockr for a simpler way.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neurofuzz:
If I temp-root it, would I have to temp-root it every time I want to run the wifi-tether program? Or just on installation?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] option94:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=858996
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nickoro:
I have been trying to get visionary r14 but i have no idea where to get it. I google visionary r14 and use the first link like many people have said but whenever i click download it says firefox can't find the page. Does anyone know of some other way to get visionary ?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TrueBlue_Drew:
There is a link in the post 4 above this one.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mdrentz:
does anyone know if this method will work on a htc glacier thats flashed to a network other then t-mobile.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=858996

its my friends phone and he is on simple mobile. i have rooted quite a few phones and know what i am doing but wanted to make sure it wouldn't conflict with his network
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neidlinger:
Any rooting method will work on any phone it was designed for.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mindwarp1571:
Hi guys, I just follwed the method by the unlocker... but at the end when I go to better terminal I'm not getting the # sign... So I recon that it didn't work, right? What might the problem be?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mindwarp1571:
My bad, wasn't writing SU... OPPSSS!!!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mindwarp1571:
I think I screwed something. I just noticed that my CW version is 3.0.2.4 and everybody I see is talking about 3.0.0.5. Is this something bad? I'm having trouble flahing gapps and I got another strange problem, If I put a ringtone and reboot the phone it reverts to the original one, and if I copy something to the SD card it gets deleted. Strange? Please can anyone tell me if I screwed this and how can I resolve?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neidlinger:
3.0.0.5 is the older one. 3.0.2.4 is the newer one.

What error are you getting when you flashed the g/apps?

how the eff is stuff getting deleted from the SDcard. the recovery image doesn't natively delete anything from the SDcard.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mindwarp1571:
I don't really know, this is a new 32 gig class 6 sandisk memory, the original 8gigs is out ot the phone. I left last night transfering from my pc 20 gigs of music and today after i disconnected it from the pc it was gone.

I'm testing the ringtones to determine what the heck is going on, more on that later....

Gapps... starts to install and...

finding update package...

opening update package...

e:cant open /sdcard/gapps-gb-20110307-signed.zip

(bad)

Installation aborted

This is the 4th time I download this... Maybe permissions?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neidlinger:
Their has to be something wrong with (a) the recovery image or (b) the g/apps.

Are you sure you are downloading the correct g/apps for our phone running CM7. They have their own g/apps....If you are 100% sure it's for our phone then i'd suggest .....

... is attempting to manually flash the recovery image to make sure you do not get a blip in the system. Personally, i do not trust flashing recovery images with Clockwork ROM manager. I've seen a-lot of errors come out of it. This might be one of them.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChaosSaber:
Have you tryed the 8gig sdcard to install the g-apps? the 32gig may be bad
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mindwarp1571:
I just removed the sd card and put it on my laptop and copied a folder with music... after taht turned on the phone and it is gone! strange!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mindwarp1571:
Gonna test the 8gigs..

Put the 8 gigs, and it installed... Hmmm...

NOw, after it finishes the setup of the apps I will format the 32 and test it...
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _Allan_:
Every time I try to download the Visionary.apk from the above posts, it downloads, then tells me the file has a virus... what's going on? Are they false positives?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PermROOT:
Its false so don't worry about it and go with VISIONary+
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _Allan_:
Well... I got it, downloaded it, and when I ran Visionairy it crashed on my Glacier. :(

It wouldn't root it. :(

I just want to get rid of "Cyberon Commander Settings" ... it doesn't kill with Advanced Task ... :(
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DANCCS:
S - ON

HI,

I have been tryint to perm root my MyTouch 4G But i cant make the Security goes OFF.

I am Doing it thru Visionary.

I have over 7 hours trying to do it, and i never get the S OFF, and believe me, ive done every step, word by word. several times, from the very beggining til the very end!. I have unlocked, rooted and installed CM on my old G1, so i know a little how to follow Intructions.

What i do:

Files to Perm root are copied to my SDcard ( Root folder copied)

- Debugg ON

- Fast boot OFF

- Installed Visionary, Run, checked first and third box ( temproot on boot - Set system R/W after root)

- Temroot now

- Terminal

Typed Commands

SU

cd /sdcard/root

sh root.sh

and i think, here is the problem. When i run this last command, it says on the command line:

insmod: init_module 'sdcard/root/wpx/ko' failed ( function not implmented)

After this, i just kept going with the process

Restart with power and volume down pressed and EVERY SINGLE TIME says S ON.

Ive done this procces several times. I have deleted the ROOT foldr from my SDcard, downloaded again, copied again, same with the viosnary APK, unistall, inatlles, from zero everything, and i cant DO IT!..

HELP PLEASE!:-(. Im about to make a Restore phone to avoid all this drama, but i will lose too many apps I have download trhu Amazon Store, that are paid, and i got the for Free, and i need them ( they are not games)

Thanks!!!!!!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] irrompible:
Check and see if you've got the M4G2DE emmc. People with that chip usually have a hard time (I couldn't get it to work at all) rooting with Visionary. If you do, you might want to try the Gfree method.

To find out which emmc you have, open up terminal emulator and type: cat /sys/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.2/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DANCCS:
Hi!,

I do have the M4G2DE. Daamnnn...

I was trying before to use that Method, but to be honest, i did not undertood it. Any help?