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[Fascinate General] orateam:
RELAX. I've seen so many 'i've had it, i want to swim in Froyo goodness' that i want to puke.

Let me start by saying that i've been in this community for a Looong time and even ran my own kitchen website at one time. I have had over a dozen smartphones and love upgrades.

With that all out there, I can honestly say that my fascinate is perhaps the only phone i've owned (I have an intercept too) that i don't tweak much. I currently run DJ05 and with the blackish storm theme along with some hacks to allow me to save off to my SD card and GPS fixes.

I install a new ROM (crap kernal, slapkernal, rampage) and themes on the intercept. I did the same for winmo 5 and 6. But the Fascinate, it rocks! Have others here had the pleasure of playing with the famed Galaxy Epic? Our 3G is nearly as fast as their 4G and they $10 a month for that battery draining beast. Verizon is Waaay better than Sprint, ATT and Tmobile put together. Reception is the bomb. The EPic/Vibrant/Captivate soft buttons suck. You need to press them 4 or 5 times to get it to take.

Look, I all for upgrading, but Froyo doesn't buy me any sort of happiness at this point. I really don't give a squat whether it comes out or not. I don't even pine for Gingerbread. For what? We don't have a video camera on the front, so the best features are moot for us.

The reality is that Froyo and Gingerbread are just performance tweaks. I have it on my Intercept, woohooo (sarcasm). It will make a ****ty phone into a reasonable phone, but it won't make a great phone any better. Do you have slowdowns on the Fascinate? I'm running Asphalt 5 and Spiderman from the Galaxy Tab on the FAscinate without nearly a hint of lag. Oh of course, we have the same hardware, the best hardware currently out on the market. Until the ATrix/optimus comes to the states.

I love this site, but lately it's gotten full of these frustrated posts about a product little know nothing about.

Here's an analogy, if you're driving a 250mph Mercedes AMG, do you care if Mercedes says it's coming out with a new one with an extra 10hp?
[Fascinate General] notta:
I completely agree. If I may share and I mean absolutely no disrespect whatsoever, but you do realize that you have just contributed to exactly that.

Again I mean no harm but in short just don't reply to them. Just my thoughts.
[Fascinate General] Bwangster12:
I wanna take a second and defend all those individuals who keep asking questions about Froyo and updates (me having been one of them).

While I think some of the questions are good and intelligent, a lot have been repetitive and can be answered by searching. If that is the case, why can't the "super-intelligent" forum members just ignore them and don't answer negatively? The threads take on a life of their own when member after member comes in to post links to other places and tell the poster that they are annoying and stupid.
[Fascinate General] RacerXFD:
BTW I accidentally thanked you.

Seriously though, can you imagine trying to follow the latest development going on while several new guys who keep spamming with "WHEREZ THE FROYOZ YO." It's not easy. It's frustrating. I know I come across as arrogant and elitist, but this comes from dealing with people asking the same question over and over and over again. It's really not that the members here are trying to be harsh.

Having tried to help several users with their issues when new ROMs/development comes out, it's not easy to have to deal with everyone's issues while having to sort through the FROYO threads.

Also if you read the sticky, the moderator posted... STOP POSTING WHERE IS THE FROYO THREADS...

If you can't even read that... I'm not saying that they deserve a flaming, but it's going to happen. This forum has seen countless froyo threads. Search froyo in the Samsung Fascinate section of this forum and you'll see just how many...
[Fascinate General] chopper the dog:
Because this site belongs to the "super-intelligent" ones. And keeping a development site free and clear of non-development type threads will keep the "super-intelligent" happy. But gone are the days when users would join and lurk and self-educate themselves and would be aware of the fact that this is a development site for developers and not a place to parrot the latest engaget article about 2.2 on a completely different device.

I myself first came to xda and lurked for 4 months and then I joined in October of 2008 and I kept lurking and reading and reading and google searching and more reading. The first post I ever made was in April of 2009 and it was answering a question someone had. And that's because I identified the fact that this a development site for developers to create and share their hard work. This is not an end-user hacking site. And this is NOT an OH NO I GOT THIS PHONE YESTERDAY AND I DID A BUNCH A CRAP TO MY $500 DEVICE WITHOUT PROPERLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT I WAS EXACTLY DOING AND NOW IT'S STUCK ON THE SAMSUNG LOGO, HELP ME site.

And that is why the "super-intelligent" might be a little annoyed that their little development site has been overrun by people that show little to no respect and actually think that their opinions and parroted news stories actually matter. Or just blatantly create a help me thread without even spending 5 minutes of searching with google to actually mmmm I don't know, but help themselves.

Mom always told me "you made that mess. So now you are gonna clean up that mess"

good day.
[Fascinate General] starscream84:
+1 chopper and racer...

longtime Lurker and reader myself and it makes me cringe when I see someone with a ton of posts and says "how do I fix (some random problem) without ADB cuz I don't know how to use it"

The actual name of this site is "XDA Developers" I know how to look up engadget on the web when I want to know the latest rumors or news. =)
[Fascinate General] djp952:
I agree wholeheartedly, I lurk this forum and occasionally lurk IRC mainly because I'm interested. I have nothing useful to add 99.5% of the time and therefore don't try. Posting this reply is, ironically enough, useless in and of itself and I shall punish myself later for switching from lurker to troll this night.

That said, MY reason for lurking about on all things Froyo/Gingerbread for my phone is that I'm very interested in AOSP-based ROMs for it, and 2.2/2.3 are the OS revisions on which the devs are actively pursuing this accomplishment. While I am a software developer by trade (and I'd like to think a damn good one), I have NOTHING I can contribute to these efforts. I hate Java, I don't know enough about hacking hardware to make functional drivers without proper documentation, hell, I've never even *installed* Eclipse. Basically I am as useless as anyone else off the street would be out here. The difference seems to be that I KNOW THAT. I can't do these things, I don't want to take the time to learn how to do these things, and as a result I have no right to ***** and moan that these things haven't been done (yet). Instead, I sit in awe as others do these things I cannot and wait patiently for the day when I can benefit from someone else's hard work for a change ... and I'm happy to do so. I actually enjoy watching other, most likely younger, developers go through the process of creating something really cool armed with nothing but their own wit and persistence. The end result of their efforts will be something I not only desire for my own use, but will be something I could use to jump-start my own entry into this world should I change my mind and want to actively pursue such a thing.

My phone works great already, thanks to the people here. It runs Android 2.1. It does every single thing I've wanted it to do thus far, with these people's help. Yes, it has some annoyances that in my case would be resolved by having access to a truly stock AOSP-based system, and of course Froyo/Gingerbread is what I'd prefer over Eclair, but I can wait. I will wait. I will continue to donate an admittedly trivial amount of my hard earned money to the developers actively pursuing the end result I'm looking for that I'm not willing to work towards on my own.

I went from Troll to full-on Preacher here ... I can live with that :) I just hope that the devs here can see that there are people out there that both appreciate and admire them for what they do and hope they can turn a blind eye to the entitled jerks that continue to want something for nothing every day.

End: post-turned-uncalled-for-rant.
[Fascinate General] orateam:
Trust me, i hated opening this thread for that same reason. But this is not a "Trash Samsung, I need Froyo" thread. It's the opposite. It's a "I love Samsung for building a badass phone and don't need Froyo" thread.

Here's a response i read from the tmobile forum about their newly coveted Froyo.

" if you want the new froyo, don't bother

i just downloaded it, and found out i wasted an hour on it.

firstly, its laggy... more than eclair.

secondly, it has some things that verify update.zip so you have to use methods that you usally wouldn't use, and flashing another rom is hard because CWM doesn't work."

-GPS got worse for me

-I get the boot up sound even with System Volume all the way down. I don't get any sound for shut down though. Also get a vibrate after 'Goodbye' screen goes away (I don't know if that is a pro or con).

-I can't do a quick reboot anymore.

-The colors seem a little duller to me.

-Avatar doesn't play.

-Stock keyboard doesn't work

-Apps in Market are not stored

Pay attention, it's likely we are getting those same issues, just adpated to our flash camera.
[Fascinate General] comper:
Why post something like that when it's clear that this guy had a fluke update experience? And to say we will have the same issues is sort of ridiculous. Sorry. I never had one problem updating to 2.2 on my og droid as well as my incredible. Obviously there will be a very small portion of people that have a problem with it as this guy did.

I understand the point of this thread is to stop all of the "Where is froyo?" threads, but to start saying we don't want or need 2.2 is sort of silly. Am I happy with 2.1 and how it runs on this phone? You bet. Do I think 2.2 will only improve this phone and take advantage of its potential even more? For sure. It'll come when it comes, but let's not downtalk it in the meantime.

e: Also, to the OP, why don't the little performance tweaks matter? What about the fact that 2.2 should help improve battery life which, in my opinion, this phone definitely needs? And the 250mph and 10hp analogy is really far off from what this is. It's more like a mercedes getting an engine tuneup as well as a variety of other small upgrades to enhance the overall experience of the car. Even if it's not revolutionary as some people believe (and no, I know it's not as I've gone through the update to 2.2 on a couple devices now), why not be excited if it enhances the experience overall?

Like I said before, I agree people should chill with all of the posts/topics about froyo along with all of their nagging. However, there's no reason to talk down about 2.2, either.
[Fascinate General] themagicdonkey:
still lurking ;)
[Fascinate General] mexiken:
I blame the blogs, they made XDA celebrity status to the otherwise noob forum patrons....
[Fascinate General] RacerXFD:
I blame engadget.
[Fascinate General] dricacho:
Keep this forum clean. Go dump all this crap at droidforums.net instead!
[Fascinate General] neo4uo:
Thanks for people like you. I posted something in development about froyo. To me out was a legit development question. Since I did not word it correctly I been flamed for days even after I apologized. I mean its almost like being bait in a fish tank. What kind of taste in the mouth does this give someone new like me. The people that flamed do not know what my potential might be for contributions to this site. I know the moderators are mad that people are sometimes posting in the wrong forum, but that is always going to happen. Not one "real" developer flamed me nor did any moderator. The people that think they are comedians are the real problem in forums like this, not the people with real questions our concerns. Sorry for venting, but some people need to grow up :)
[Fascinate General] dricacho:
Here's a tissue neo4uo...you're welcome! :)
[Fascinate General] mAlfunkti0n:
OP it's hilarious you created another FROYO thread to protest the creation of FROYO threads.

Way to go with killing off these threads!
[Fascinate General] neo4uo:
Thanks :)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ATrueJesusFreak:
Does any one know if you can still access recovery in the official Froyo update?

Or if you can access download mode to odin back to stock?

I'm mainly asking because I don't want to get the kies update, find out it sucks, and be stuck not even able to root my phone.

Any one able to answer?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bl4ckpheniX:
Well just tried using the update file to get Root access.. Signature verification failed.. so no go on the Root.

I can still get into Download mode with the same methods as before.. Holding both volume key's while plugging in micro usb.

Edit: saw someone say one click root works (havent tried it myself)

If it helped hit thanks
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ATrueJesusFreak:
I would if I wasn't on my phone, I really appreciate it, thanks!!! =D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] i_konst:
Hi,

This is my first real Windows Mobile application.

Website:

Mwunderground on SourceForge

Description:

This is a weather application. It uses data from Weather Underground to show current weather conditions, forecast and weather alerts.

Features:

- Weather Underground data for Current Conditions, Forecast, Radar and Alerts

- Can use Personal Weather Station (PWS) as well as Airport station data

- Tower and GPS location

- Working version for VGA, WVGA, WQVGA, QVGA phones

- Sense Look and Feel for settings (thanks to SenseSDK)

- Free and Open-Source (developer contributions encouraged)

- S2U2 support with wildcards (see 2nd post)

License:

LGPL

Tested on:

HTC Raphael (Touch Pro, Fuze)

Screenshots:

TODO/Known Issues:

- Show All Data (to show both metric and standard units)

- Language Support

- CHT weather support

- Multiple Locations

- Color customizations

- More optimizations (especially xml parsing)

- Port to Android and maybe Windows Phone 7

- Others (suggestions welcome)?

Changelog:

v0.4: Added radar for US Cities (landscape mode using internal browser), customizable in registry (see 2nd post). Moved Settings button on top next to newly added Exit button. Displaying 5 days of forecast instead of 6 with slightly bigger text. Improved QVGA/WVGA support (bigger buttons for WVGA, fixed missing text for QVGA/WQVGA). Many bug fixes (value checking in forecast, GPS thread termination, station re-searching, duplicate location station search). Removed Exit button from Settings as now there is a main Exit button on top right.

v0.3: More error checking (locations and stations). Better resource management on exit. Moved Tower and GPS finding to a timed thread (timer is customizable in registry, see 2nd post). Fixed small bug with showing high and lows of today's rather than tomorrow's forecast. S2U2 support with wildcards in registry (see 2nd post). Better support for browser link (when clicking on logo). Changed chance of rain to chance of precipitation (moved some things around). Enabled stations picking when using GPS.

v0.2.3: Better error handling (more messages, more checks). Faster connection checking. Some Bug fixes (alerts on startup, lows and humidity on non-metric).

v0.2.2: Better error messages. Connection checking. Some GPS fixes. Exit button added on Settings.

v0.2.1: Fixed a bug with startup registry keys

v0.2: Added support for QVGA and WVGA devices

v0.1: Initial release

[size=+1]

Download (cab):

[/size]

v0.4

v0.3

v0.2.3

v0.2.2

v0.2.1

v0.2

v0.1

Latest Build (cab):

Here. Click download on latest revision.

Credits:

Weather Underground, Inc. (permission to use data)

eboelzner (SenseSDK)

OpenNetCF (Smart Device Framework - Community Edition)

Acoustic (at CodeProject, author of DeepCast)

Any feedback/suggestions very much appreciated.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] glaucos:
No QVGA support?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] i_konst:
Once I get in the mode of changing things for WVGA, it'll probably not be too hard to make a QVGA one as well.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] AthenaLod:
very nice interface... will give it a shot
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] i_konst:
QVGA support added. ;)

Just grab the v0.2 cab.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kameirus:
doesnt work on my fuze

tried both cab files

after install i soft reset and try to run program but it crashes

before it even starts
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] i_konst:
Strange. Does it give you any errors? Data plan/wifi working? .NET framework 3.5 installed? I'll do more investigating tomorrow based on your ROM.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ai6908:
Wow, I love munder weather...thanks bro, will give this a whirl...:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ottoman96:
Won't work on my Topaz (WVGA). Not sure if its the screen size not being supported or something else. .Net 3.5 is installed and i tried both CABs and same result.

View attachment 496711

A screenshot of the message I'm getting. thanks for the effort tho- I look foward to this program! :D:D:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
It looks really interersting application!

I would love to have it in other languages too (e.g. Greek ;))
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] i_konst:
Bug fixed. Should work fine now. Sorry for the mishap.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] i_konst:
Thanks for the image and everything.

Bug fixed. Should work fine now. Sorry for the mishap.

Get latest version of course. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kameirus:
that did it works great

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kameirus:
a couple suggestions

1. have a close button ...as now i have to close it thru task manager

2. have the option to manuel update and auto update and maybe an update button
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] glaucos:
Thanx, I'll test it in the next days :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Corwin9S:
hi you all. first, big thanks for this software. it's amazing, I was hesitating to buy this of ageye, but as I've found yours...

just to say that it's working very very good on my i900, winmo 6.1 swiss-french rom, installed on besides memory (Ma mémoire), screen res 240x400.

Only the texts are pretty small in forecast, but... PERFECT !

a simple big Thanks !!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] AthenaLod:
works fine on my fuze
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] i_konst:
Thanks a lot for the suggestions!

1. Added on version 0.2.2. Thanks for the suggestion.

2. For manual update, check the 2nd post. I posted a hint. For automatic updates, this is a much bigger task because querying for xml data in windows mobile is quite slow. When I work on optimizing the xml parsing code (3rd iteration!) I'll look at how feasible this is. But it's a big task. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Wevenhuis:
Got this error when changing the settings:

Mwunderground.exe

NullReferenceException

bij Mwunderground.MainForm.FillForecastData(ForecastData forecastData, CurrentData currentData, SettingsData settingsData)

bij Mwunderground.MainForm.RetrieveAndFillData()

bij Mwunderground.MainForm.itmSave_OnClick(Object Sender)

bij StedySoft.SenseSDK.SensePanelButtonItem._notifyClick()

bij StedySoft.SenseSDK.SensePanelButtonItem.OnMouseUp(Int32 x, Int32 y)

bij StedySoft.SenseSDK.SenseListControl.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)

bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

bij System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

bij Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop(IntPtr hwnMain)

bij System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form fm)

bij Mwunderground.Program.Main()

This error occured after I changed the current location. Now I can not restart the app. I get the same error message every time I restart the app. I can not even get into the start screen.

How can I fix this, besides a reinstall of the cab file?

Another idea I would like to see is support for the CHT 2.0 weather widget.

Can also weather stations from other countries be used. I keep getting a list from Greece.

Post-edit:

I think I have found the issue. I keep getting an error message when changing the weather location based on search option for cell towers/gps option. Somehow this function is causing the app to work incorrectly, perhaps due to interference with the option of a manual search of the location search. The error occurs only after I save the settings. Can you see if this can be fixed?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] powinmo:
i_konst - excellent idea/app. I can say this is one app I've been hoping someone would work on - using wunderground as a weather basis instead of the other sites (*cough* accuweather).

I can confirm v0.2.2 works on a few TouchPro2s using Energy's RHODCDMA custom ROMs.

Minor issues noticed so far:

1. humidity does not seem to be processed in the XML. I put in any location in the USA , and humidity displays "?%"

My observations mirror a few folks above:

1. GPS/location option causing issues.

2. close button. I see you put an option to Exit from the settings page.

Suggestions/possible wish list:

a. allow a timeout or cancel when trying the GPS/location option. If the device is having issues getting a GPS fix or does not have a good cell signal, it causes the app to just hang there. Requiring it to be killed via a task manager. I allowed it to run for a few mins to see if it would timeout, I did not see it do so.

b. support for WM 6.5.x leaving the bottom softkeys intact and/or using them directly. eg, so the "X" close button is available at all times. Have two softkeys: one for "Settings" and another maybe for "Update".

Then have your pseudo softkeys above it: "Current" and "Forecast" etc.

c. scale your softkeys (Current, Forecast, etc) to the screen resolution. eg, make them slightly larger for WVGA devices - if possible.

d. allow gestures. eg, if I am in the "Current" view, allow a right-to-left gesture to go to the "Forecast" view. If it does allow that behavior, I was unable to have the action happen.

e. add in the ability to define additional locations. Similar to how you can do so with Sense2.5's weather UI. But, allow it by any way that you feel best optimizes for your display and code. I do realize this request is probably a bottom of the list kind due to complexity right now.

Very thankful for:

1. settings option you put in to allow for non/metric users. Maybe if you can eventually allow for how WU can display both units at the same time - us USA users that like seeing both units would be even more grateful.

2. your time and development efforts!

3. supporting WVGA users!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] i_konst:
I've added quite a bit more error checking which will be available on the next release (0.2.3). But, can you walk me through the steps that make the app crash so I can maybe try to reproduce this (i.e. first click click on Use gps location, etc. etc.)? I cannot seem to get this error no matter what I've tried on the emulator or the HTC Fuze I have.

Also, make sure you have the latest version because I do a lot of bug fixings per release.

I have to look at the CHT API to see how this is possible. I'll have that as a TODO after I fix ongoing bugs.

I think this should be working. You have to type the location you want in the location box, click on Find Location, select the location (should now see something like Current Location: San Francisco, CA or something), set use default weather station to off and click Find Weather Station. This should list the weather stations at the location you selected.

Now, I've noticed that Personal Weather Stations do not always provide correct data, so be aware of that. You could check with wunderground.com for the particular PWS and see if it is reporting correct data there. For example, sometimes I get the temperature to be 152 C (it's cooking!!!). =)

And thank you very much for the feedback. :)