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[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zanderman112:
If you dont like it, then you dont have to post in my thread. Its not that hard to ignore.

Sent from The Chaotic Void.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MysteryEmotionz:
Wow........ No need to be so rude. What response did you want to say? Oh I love touchwiz and would like to see those images?

Sent From Da Hood.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zanderman112:
It wasnt meant like that. Sorry, im just really curious what they are in there for.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MysteryEmotionz:
There's images all over the place that you never see. There just there cause all the galaxy s devices and android share bits and peaces. Just cause we don't see them on are phone they may show up on another phone
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zanderman112:
Oh ok, that makes sense. Thanks.

Sent from The Chaotic Void.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baric88:
ba haha u guys made me laugh buttttt i had the same ? thanks for the answer
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ikenley:
Hi XDA-Samsung Users,

I've been a member of XDA since Jan last year. I went from owning a Nexus One to a Samsung Galaxy S i9000. The reason for the change was for the better specs and superior hardware of the Samsung Galaxy.

The phone is an incredible piece of machinery, but is severely hampered by the modifications that Samsung makes to the Android OS. I admit that the codec support within TouchWiz is impressive, but too much of the core framework of the phone is inefficient and sluggish.

Even using the latest release of unofficial firmware Samsung, Android 2.2.1 (JPY), there is still the occasional hang and the missing RAM (which is there somewhere, but not for user applications).

Samsung is mostly to blame, but there is also a quality control element that Google should be responsible for.

I have prepared an open letter that I sent to Android via Google Press and then forwarded on to Samsung for their reference. This were all through publicly available channels so will have to filter through customer service centers and the like.

I'm not expecting much, Google appears to use Amazon's customer service approach, "No customer service is good customer service".

But would like to post it here to hopefully get it out into the wilderness.

I tweeted it here http://twitter.com/#!/ibproud/status/27528781828722688

and would appreciate if you agreed with the content to retweet it. Hopefully it should give it a bit more weight.

It would be interesting to get the communities feedback on how mature they believe Android is.

Do they need to keep trying to make everyone happy or can they start to use the weight of their OS to get manufacturers to align the user experience?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mr_at_sgs:
It's really an excellent summary. Consider there're even more black sheeps out there. For example Sony Ericcson which ones recently made a statement like Android is their favourite Smartphone OS and left Symbian in Nokias hands.

But we found also the good ones like HTC, which every Manufacturer should have HTC as its Paragon concerning Android Software Development.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] KLoNe1:
Great write-up; I agree 100% :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Ivegottheskill:
I agree with your post fully, and concur that the Windows Phone 7 model for OS updates is more efficient, and strikes a happy medium between iOS and Android's approach to upgrades. However it is also more restrictive in terms of handset hardware limitations

I suppose the idea is that customers should vote with their wallets and buy from companies with good software and firmware support. The problem with that is a majority of phone users (android or otherwise) are technically savvy enough to take such support into consideration when looking at the latest and greatest fancy phone in a store. We could all buy the Nexus One or Nexus S only, but this too is restrictive to the customer as other phones offer more/different features
[Galaxy S I9000 General] poundesville:
my 2 cents worth:

I agree on your points - but I'd skip the first few paragraphs if I were the one who write the letter. Other than that, thank you for making the effort.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Toss3:
What exactly are you hoping to achieve with this letter? Google has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that samsung don't want to update their phones. In these type of situations it's just better to vote with your wallet and buy another manufacturer's phone next time and let Samsung know why you don't want to use their phones in the future.

Writing letters like these is just a waste of time imho.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] coooolboyz:
What Google should do?

Please allow me to politely disagree. Google can do a lot about this and they have done this also. When I say they have done this - I am talking about not having Market application on Android OSes which come on non-phone hardware.

Google should put similar restrictions for loosley coupled skins, upgradable drivers. I had been giving this a lot of thought lately. I will sum up my thoughts with above letter as above:-

i) Device manufacturer skinning - Google should mandate that it should be just another APK within AOSP and users should be given a choice to turn it off.

ii) Device Drivers - Google should mandate there should be a better way of installing device drivers - similar to what we have in MS Windows (MS Windows is an excellent model of how hardware device should be handled - this lead to the exponential growth Windows is enjoying now).

iii) Android OS Update - If Google can achieve the above two, then the choice to upgrade the OS should be at user discretion. Of course, Google should mandate that there is OTA availble as an option. And obviously this OTA would be served by Google, not by device manufacturers. This would also free up time, effort and cash spent by device manufacturers in upgrading the OS.

So this is in the best of interest of everybody.

These restrictions if put in place, would free us all from this phenomena of running outdated OS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pierreken:
Not sure what ti say on this one. It's true that Samsung has failed on some levels, however I must say that this is the first phone that has allowed me to get to know so much about the internals of the Android OS.

Modifying kernels, ROM's, reading about different file-systems etc... it's not a thing for the common user but I expect the people on this forum to be interested in such things.

Ok, if Samsung had done it right, we may have discussed these things anyway but it would've drawn less attention as people would not be looking for solutions to their problems.

But of course we have to strive to quality for everyone and this letter may just open some people's eyes at both Google and Samsung.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ikenley:
Thank you so far for the feedback.

Remember most members of XDA would be a cut above the average user. The reason this letter was written the way it was, was to demonstrate that I am a typical end user. Although I would consider myself leaning slightly to the more advanced side I wrote the letter based on a very general experience of the platform, an experience a lot of consumers would go through.

What am I trying to achieve with this letter?

I really don’t know, but it helps to just get the thoughts out there.

With approximately 300,000 activations daily, I don’t think Android sees the true reflection of how their platform is received.

When the Galaxy range of phones was released in the US, they would have been seen as the closest thing to an iPhone that non-AT&T customers could get. So sales and activations shouldn’t be seen as the indicator of clever consumers or consumers wanting an open platform, but of consumers who wanted an iPhone but for the various reasons didn’t want to go with AT&T.

Remember: The international Samsung Galaxy is the only Android phone I know of that looks more like an iPhone than any other phone.

What I would really like to see is, that annually google will release a major version of Android. So V1, V2, V3, etc…. the mobile manufacturers commit to any minor or incremental updates per major version. So if Google says they are releasing Android 2.4 then they are saying to the manufacturer that this version will also work on any phone that currently supports v2.1 to v2.3.

As more and more people move to smartphones and tablets, more and more will we see hackers, spammers, botnets and so on attempt to access our devices. If we can’t have the latest updates that close any open holes then our phones become a huge liability.

Not really sure if Samsung has failed as such, but have put too much focus on unit sales rather than quality control and great user experience. They started releasing different iterations and modifications to the same phone without considering that each minor tweak to the hardware would mean more resources to develop updates and maintain each device.

I also agree that without Samsung I would know very little about linux filesystems, kernel and custom roms, but shouldn't all of these be more to push the phone above it's limits and not to just get it working properly?

There's nothing wrong with knowing the advanced stuff, however it shouldn't be a necessity.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Logicalstep:
The problem ironically is that Android is open source. I agree wit the letter above, but I can;t see how you can stop manufacturers doing what they want.

Also the Drivers being proprietary isn't going to change and device manufacturers aren't going to suddenly start releasing their closed driver sources.

Agreed Google should stand up and restrict the Skins to a single APK that can be removed, this would stop all the associated problems with HTC and Samsung skinning too deep in to the OS that it becomes impossible to remove it. The problem with that is, then any manufacturers APK will be installable on any phone. Which is something we know they don't want.

We already know Androids biggest downfall and so does Google. Fragmentation.

I believe once Google has the strong position they want and users demand Android when they buy a new phone, they will start to put their foot down and try to enforce standardisation across Manufacturers, but until they get to what they feel is that point, we're stuck.

Anyway much luck with the letter, I hope someone who matters get's to see it.

Logicalstep
[G Tablet General] bobdude5:
I'm about to buy my first tablet device and have the option of buying either the ipad or the viewsonic g-tab. Originally what i was going to do was buy the ipad and then sell it once a honeycomb tablet is released, but that changed after i read about the G-tab on here.

The number one reason for me wanting the ipad is the quality of the tablet optimized apps. Yes i know the android apps scale up nicely (my gf has a nook color that i rooted for her) but they're just not the same.

So if you guys were in my position what would you do? Get the ipad for now and wait for the honeycomb tablets to be released and then sell it ORRR get the g-tab now and sell that once the honeycomb tablets come out. The second choice im worried about the depreciation in value once the honeycomb tablets come out, the ipad not so much since the next ipad comes out in aprilish

I don't care about the price difference

and I want a tablet NOW like within the next 2 days

Im also kind of picky about screen quality. I dont care too much about viewing angles i just dont want a washed out screen (super amoled spoiled me lol)
[G Tablet General] palagai:
If screen is your main concern then g-tablet wont fit your need when compared to ipad, for me after using it for a month I am liking it.

So you have to prioritize your needs, if you read this forum many of them said high about g-tablet except for the screen.
[G Tablet General] japhule:
Guess it really depends on what apps are important to you. There aren't many tablet optimized apps currently for android but there will be once honeycomb comes out.

One important thing about the G Tab (or most android froyo tablets) is full web experience. For example, I never need to use the Facebook app since I can access the full facebook website just fine.
[G Tablet General] geeter:
If you want it right away and don't have the time to tinker, ipad is your best choice.
[G Tablet General] bobdude5:
i have lots of time to tinker. If i do go for the g-tab im loading Cm7 on it right away ..i hate decisions :confused:
[G Tablet General] GameDoctor:
If you will never need to use Flash... Gtab has flash now.
[G Tablet General] Neoprimal:
From what you've specifically detailed, the iPad is more your speed. But otherwise there are too many variables that make it too close a call to recommend one over the other in your case.

iPad pros are optimized apps and a more streamlined experience as well as the obviously 'better' screen and the resale value.

GTablet pros over the iPad right now don't really fit into anything you've mentioned - and that is, that this is a more feature rich device, having a sdcard slot for expanded storage, a dual core cpu and better gpu than the iPad.

If I were in your shoes, how I see it is that the GTablet is an investment and something to look forward to tinkering with and upgrading now and when the software is available later on (possibly), not something to buy now and sell later. I doubt you'll get 80-90% the value of the G Tablet when you re-sell it.

The iPad would be a better purchase in your scenario, as something to use right now and then sell when this years tablets hit the market in early to mid 2011.
[G Tablet General] sjmoreno:
I already have both

For my personal use I have a Droid X phone and a gTab tablet. My job has given me "for work use" an iPhone 4 and an iPad.

For me with the use of VEGAn beta 5.1 and all of the tweaks I have been able to do on my gTab I get a lot of use out of it. I read digital magazines, play all sorts of games, surf all sorts of websites (with Flash and without) and watch all sorts of videos (both personally ripped or streams off of websites).

Plus, with my rooted Droid X, using Wireless Tether I can get unlimited 3G through my phone as a WiFi hotspot so I always have internet connectivity on my gTab for no additional monthly fees.

My work iPhone 4 cannot be used as a WiFi hotspot (yes it can be jailbroken but it doesn't belong to me). So my company pays for a data plan on my iPhone as well as paying a separate data plan fee for my iPad. If I had to pay out of my own pocket I wouldn't use the iDevices simply due to the extra monthly cost on top of paying more for the devices in the first place.

In the end, it's a matter of preference. Yes, the screen on the gTab leaves MUCH to be desired and the screen on the iPad is crisp and clear with way better veiwing angles. But I personally don't care so much about the veiwing angle issue on my gTab.

The only time I actually use my iPhone or iPad (in all honesty) is when I take the family out to eat and need to keep 2 little boys occupied so they don't make our time out a living hell. The Netflix app is only available on the iDevices and so I use them to show my kids either Shaun the Sheep (my 18 month old LOVES it) or a Batman/Superman animation (my 4 year old LOVES it).

So, like others have already said, if ease of use and screen quality is your main concern, go with the iPad. Or, get both. :D
[G Tablet General] mrmpo:
I was facing the same discision and went with the G Tablet for now as it is built for the future. The Ipad will also be in my future but I will wait for the second generation of IPAD. The current IPAD is facing extinction and is running at the end of life cycle. Latest leaks say an announcement on the IPAD could come out at the end of this month.
[G Tablet General] stanglx:
Based on your requirements I would go for the iPAD 2 when it comes out. Unfortunately the G-Tablet is truly a 1st generation Android tablet... Its screen is horrible (useless Portrait, washed out or too dark if not at the right angle in Landscape), the OS is virtually unusable in its out of the box state, requires fairly high technical understanding and a ton of patience to get the custom ROMs working (for those of you say its easy.. yes it is when your technically inclined... If your my wife it would never happen)... Each ROM has a trade-off... Some are faster but unstable, some are stable and fast but have limited features, some just dont work!

Most simple games run but a good percentage of those do not fit the screen properly, most complex games just dont run or are unstable. Most applications run but a small percentage dont fit the screen properly.

All in all you buy the G-Tablet because your a geek, love to fiddle and cant wait for the next best thing... If your not a geek and have patience then in about 3-5 months there will be many good choices...

For sure the iPAD is must more mature... If want an out of the box experience its a no brainer...

I am not an apple fan boy or an android fan boy.. just a realist...

I do love my G-Tablet for what it is...
[G Tablet General] rushless:
If even considering an iPad, you should wait. The update will be huge- if you like Apple stuff, of course.

"iPad2":

1. Dual core

2. Micros sd (about 90% likely)

3. Even better display than iPad (wow)

4. Front & back camera

5. Rumor of a 128gb version (no sure about that one)

I am glad I bought the gTablet, since paid $350 for it. There is a metric ton of great games and apps releasing for the iPad platform. I will probably buy one myself and give more time for Honeycomb at the app platform to mature for it. gTablet is a GREAT bridge.
[G Tablet General] festivus:
Since you plan to sell whatever you buy once the new iPad hits, seems to me your best bet is to buy something second hand now. That way, you won't lose as much money when you turn around and sell a few months later.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
iPad, just because of that one sentence. The GTab screen is not washed out, but portrait mode is bad and the viewing angles are crapola (especially in portrait). The iPad has an IPS screen, which just blows the GTab screen away. It's a major difference between the two. I have an AMOLED screen on my Cowon S9, so I know what you're talking about.

If you are willing to wait a few months, more tablets should be released with IPS screens. And of course there's the Notion Ink Adam (if they actually ship today, and if the reviews are good). Plus the iPad 2 is coming out in April, so buying an iPad v1 now might not be the best idea.

Suggestion: Buy something that will hold back the instant gratification factor - I know that feeling and understand it quite well. Possibly an iPad v1 with the understanding that you'll probably lose about 15% of your money on the resale, as the bargain hunters wil be vying for v1's after the v2 comes out.

My other concern with the iPad is the walled garden factor - once you commit yourself to iOS, you are basically stuck with it. At least with a Gtab you have Android as the base and can move between vendors.
[G Tablet General] blipsqueak:
I had an iPad and sold it specifically to get my G-Tablet.

I loved the iPad but am really into tinkering - so the G-Tablet was more my speed. It's not perfect which is oddly what I kind of like about it.

If money is no object and you are just looking for a toy to use like a "normal person" I would probably just get the iPad.
[G Tablet General] bobdude5:
No not the new ipad lol. I want either the xoom or that unnamed toshiba honeycomb tablet but i have no idea when those are coming out. From what i've read the xoom is next month but thats mostly going to be a 3g/4g enabled version which i do not want. I am definitly going to jailbreak/root whichever one i get.

Where is the best place to get the g-tab? Sears, office depot? how much is it?
[G Tablet General] JoeMofknDot:
$399 sears and $379 office depot
[G Tablet General] stanglx:
If your going for the XOOM then you might as well get the iPAD... Android buyers want android due to openness.. other then that the iPAD is fare superior (at least for today - Later this year can be a different story)

Read here:

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/01/1...er-to-buy-elsewhere-if-they-want-custom-roms/
[G Tablet General] tyy10002:
ipad vs Galaxy vs Gtab vs Matala vs Streak 5

Found this selection flow... very interesting

http://tablets.finerhosting.com/tablets.jpg
[G Tablet General] Virtual Pariah:
Depends on how you want to use the device.

Personally, I can't do the Apple walled garden thing.

If you can, then yeah, go for the ipad.
[G Tablet General] ivanh3:
I found a new G-Tab for 350, no tax, no shipping on E-bay last week. Did the OTA update that came out late December. Installed the enhancement pack to which I added a Google contact syn apk. Did the market fix. I also use the paid version of ADW Launcher. Everything so far works great. At the college where I work all of the students are loaned iPads (and I am a previous 3GS owner). So I spend a fair time around the iOs devices. I will admit there is a certain amount of polish not found in Android. Having said that, my web experience is far superior to the iPad, and since that is primarily what I got it for I feel it was a better purchase.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Timsta:
Hi Guys,

I tried researching this and came with some roadblocks and got confused in regards to the basebands and such.

So i have a Bell i9000m using i9000xxjp2 for baseband (firmware is the GT-i9000-eng 2.2 master 332 test-keys.332)

and I would like to flash to the BELL I9000M 2.2 Froyo Firmware I9000UGJK3.

Is this possilbe to do? Safely? Is there any risks? I understand how to use Odin and such.

Thanks guys in advance,

Tim
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Timsta:
bump! any body help me?
[Vibrant General] khmerkid:
Hey, as the title says my android market is missing my paid apps and others free apps etc or is it just me

Thanks

Vibrant Rom:V5
[Vibrant General] OuncE718:
Its just you. I'm also using Nero v5 and my market is fine. Close your market with the task manager and try again.
[Vibrant General] khmerkid:
Thanks I did all of that I cleared market data still the same.
[Vibrant General] AlanL228:
I am having the same issue and found this on google http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=55c997eccabf0a6a&hl=en&start=40

still waiting for a fix for this. already tried clear cache, wipe the phone, and went as far as odin back to the unroot rom by tmobile, but nothing help.
[Vibrant General] cgi101:
I'm also having the same problemwith market as of this morning :(
[Vibrant General] khmerkid:
Yea I did everything you did nothing works, guess we gotta sit and wait for google =\
[Vibrant General] deathsmercy:
I am running Nero v5 i don't have have a problem as of yet.
[Vibrant General] AlanL228:
I have 2 SGS with Nero V5 on them. It effects 1 phone but not another for some odd reason.
[Vibrant General] dalethefarmer:
I'm having the same issue... missing all my apps under the myapps menu and cannot search for all applications... I get no results for the search term "live view"...

i'm on Nero 5 too... what gives..
[Vibrant General] Master™:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=55c997eccabf0a6a&hl=en&start=40
[Vibrant General] dalethefarmer:
That's for a market incompatibility error for the galaxy tab, mine seems to be unrelated...
[Vibrant General] xavenged:
If you actually did some reading on that page you'd easily realize that people other than Galaxy Tab users are having the problem.. People with the captivate, vibrant and even the international GT-I9000 are reporting having this problem as well...
[Vibrant General] dalethefarmer:
What the hell is going on!?

Don't know if it's only me or a bug but I'm going through the all applications top paid of the market and all I see is these weird applications like "costly app" "sanity test app" "test app" "test" "test02NOV09_paid_fl"

What the hell is going on!?
[Vibrant General] dalethefarmer:
I read the thread and found that it has nothing to do with the title of the post "market incompatible warning" or the OP problem... So it won't stand out to the google people that this is a problem with samsung devices... that galaxy tab error can be resolved by clearing the cache... Read that?