yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] helicopter88:
1-2 mb

or maybe less,removing a lot of things from a build would bring it to 100 mb
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] BikerBoy030:
so is it//would it be possible for the touch pro?

because i would be pleased of an increase of batterylife and of speed:)

becaus the biggest problem for me is the realy short battery life:( (5-6hours)

best regards,

bikerboy030
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
That's due to the panel not being "turned off" correctly.

Same on RHOD, until we got proper panel collapse - battery is measured in days instead of hours now. I'm not on NAND either...

Speed... debatable. Maybe less errors on the SD, and perhaps less hiccups when mmc is writing to the card. But I doubt it will be a huge leap in speed either.

The only real benefit I see to NAND - assuming it's stable, no more WinMo!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] helicopter88:
Here it's what i found about your problem
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] GoldAngelo:
HELICOPTER88, Thank you, but I'm only a tester, I would like to be a developer, but for the moment I do not have enough skills :( ;)

And at the moment due to an attack on my computer (tried to turn me into Bootnetu without my permission) I had to reformat the computer and lost all files :( When I download evrythin I will try to help in the tests (and, unfortunately, only in them).
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Corias:
Speed should not increase. What for battery life, I'm unsure. But USB mass storage mode and reboot may become availiable with NAND Android.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] detlef25:
@HELICOPTER88: Sure, here it is: http://pastebin.com/wUGEmK6B

@arrrghhh: I agree, speed will probably not change much. I've heard that NAND is typically quite slow. El goog themselves talk a lot about bad NAND performance in their developer optimization guidelines. Then again, my old class 2 SD isn't a big hit either ;)

I do look forward to booting without fiddling with WinMo. My NANDed Kaiser boots up pretty fast and is a real joy to use. But I guess USB mass storage won't work without NAND too, so thats a win. Anyway, I'm in it for the lulz and the hack value, so even if it sucked I'd still try it :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] helicopter88:
Let's nand guys

For me either if there isn't any improvement it's nice,just for the love of hacking!

I will have a look in the tinboot you posted,maybe it can be good for diamond

@Arrrrrghhh do you know what changes in the kernel are needed for the panel?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Sounds like WisTilt2 just needs the registers. With that said, I hate to say it - but it'll be best to wait for WisTilt2 to commit the panel collapse code for RHOD, then let the devs with the other devices cannibalize it for their devices. WisTilt2 hasn't really pushed much code to other devices, as he only has a RHOD to test with unfortunately. I'm hoping his panel code will drop soon, I think he's almost done tweaking it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] reker:
double vibrate means kernel is loaded,but the zImage of xdandroid or other version is built for haret/sd, not for nand.

so, we will need the source of linux-msm and rebuild the zImage.

how to change panel type?

(i think) you can run: "echo 1 > /sys/module/board_htcraph/parameters/panel_type" through adb/init

and as far as I know is that:

1.we need to fix FrameBuffer problem, then the screen would work and print informations.

2.There is a lot of files which is wrote for wince like:

arch\arm\mach-msm\clock-wince.c

and proc_comm_wince.c, proc_comm_wince.h

i think we should modify them before we could do other things.

3.now we can get debug information from screen and try to fix the problem and modify the zImage for boot from nand

sorry for my poor english, hope these will be useful
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] detlef25:
Thanks for the tips reker, yes thats what I guessed too. I'm using code from the rhodium-nand branch on gitorious. They have a kernel booting pretty much on rhodium and going quite far on Blackstone, so I guess the clocks should be ok and the winCE dependancies not a problem. I'm hoping that the inclusion of the epson panel driver that xdmcdmc did for Blackstone fixes the display issues.

I'll be back at my computer on the weekend and will play some more with the phone then. Should we maybe branch the rhodium-nand repo and start coding there?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] helicopter88:
Yeah,we should use rhod-nand as base since it's the most advanced
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] reker:
yes, i agree with you, we should base on rhodium nand

yesterday, the darkforcesteam said that they has started the development of rhodium MAGDLR, i think rhodium-nand would be stable & perfect soon.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] GoldAngelo:
Yes, he was been stable, but I thing NAND Must have better battery management, and camera should working(should, not must).

The camera is not necessary in everyday use. But the longer the battery would be useful :-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] BikerBoy030:
the longer battery life is not only usefull...it is really important..it is an MUST!!!!

because i can't say OK to an 4-6h battery life....it need to stay one day minimum....maybe it works after tweaking.

i could not help with tweaking beacause i have no idea how to do this=/

but it would be really great, if it works on our touch pro:p
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] majkeljj:
I found something interesting here:

http://www.neopeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6209&view=unread#p9084

It looks like midnight made almost working NAND for Diamond.

Maybe it will also run on Raphael.

http://www.multiupload.com/R9ILU7B06S
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] djdafreund:
Heck, i'd ALMOST be willing to try it out to see if it works on my raph800. Just so i can finally rid my only remaining working phone of WM and use android only now that camera is working great now. I have a little solar charging panel with built in LiON battery inside in case rays aren't around, small. Perfect for running android and not worrying about battery still being not TOO great lasting before draining. I get usually about 6-7 hours of normal to basic usage in a day.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] helicopter88:
I'm midnight on neopeek,and sadly nand for now can't boot the kernel,but for now nand developement is stopped as i'm waiting for an updated thread on ppcgeeks.

To try it on the raph800,you need to follow here and change makexip,makenbh and tinboot2.S to support raph800

There's a line in tinboot that is .def rhod,change it to raph or raph800

and do changes like this in all the files
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
RHOD has a separate tree for NAND - there were a lot of changes to the kernel to get it to boot vs haret...

We're hoping to merge the trees soon, lots of work to be done on .35.

Oh and MAGLDR is closed-source, so it won't do any other phones any good whatsoever I'm afraid. Tinboot can be ported for sure, but it definitely hasn't been easy for RHOD - we're still not there yet. Some people can flash no problem, but my flashes and a few others keep failing. No brick yet tho! :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] reker:
i installed ubutun and git all sources needed for complie last weekend.i'm good at programming in win32 but almostly noob in linux and arm, so i read a lot of threads in xda and ppcgeeks during the weekend, and now i think i have some ideas about how to code and complie.

and what about creating a new project for nand diam/raph on google code or blablabla ? i think it will be easier to share our develop progress

sorry for my poor english
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] ockty3:
any news about a android nand version ppl ?

I would be really thankfull if someone could make such a rom.

I have already tryed the other ones but they are so slow in my opinion are not usefull.

I have a raphael.

thx
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Valantin:
Why not using this bootloader? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=901305?

I think the porting not is hard, and the benefit are great :P
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
For RAPH, we have no one with the knowledge to port it. Perhaps you can try? ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] helicopter88:
http://www.neopeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6490

Have you seen this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
Right but the post is quite useless right now; no mention of where or how. I mentioned earlier that someone attempted this and bricked their phone. Even I kind of need a better answer than a possible brick my friend. ;) :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] helicopter88:
I talked to him through pm and he told me that's working hard to nand,and he atleast got tinboot booting,i know about possible brick,i know even who and how bricked his device :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
Yeah, I tried to convince him to not do it because even I know about messing with the starting address and the likes is messy business. I don't think anything good came from it. He probably wanted a new(er) phone any way... :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] helicopter88:
Lol,and if we're talking about the same person(there maybe two brickers..)he has now a g1..
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
Seems like everyone leaving their RAPH is getting a G1 now-a-days... :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] helicopter88:
and we're stuck with old phones..

oh but..g1 isn't that new..
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
Seriously, spec-wise it's worse than the RAPH :p.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] helicopter88:
But better(not a lot)than my diamond..

But my diamond can boot 2 or 3 os..
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Valantin:
I'm not a kernel hacker, but I'm a developer, if anyone need help in developing I can try to help :P

Sorry for my bad eng
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] GoldAngelo:
I'm not a kernel hacker, and not developer, but I can test :P

Maybe cedesmith can help you and you do this? ;) :D It would be great if we can put NAND Android on the Raphael :):D:p:rolleyes:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Mr.Sir:
I would be willing to donate to whoever manages to boot from NAND :) Because I'm selling my Touch Pro soon and the second hand value would be much higher if it ran Android without a hitch, which requires booting from NAND.

Am I wasting time waiting or is there progress going on? Is arrrghhh och babijoee involved?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
Hard to say whether it would be worth

your

time because you would be using slightly outdated hardware but I would say if you have the money, go for an Android native device, if that's what you're after. If you like waiting and contributing, then I would say that there is a 50/50 chance, as with all things, that we could have NAND working sometime in the future :p That being said, the latest builds for XDAndroid have come a very long way but there is still quite a piece of road left to cover, to include NAND which is going, just don't exactly know how far we are in this process. Either case, you won't find me buying ANYTHING as far as a mobile device is concerned. At least not for a while... If it so happens that I do, it will be due to changing carriers. Hopefully this helps you make the right decision for you my friend!

:cool:

n-Joie! (Enjoy)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] helicopter88:
@R7^Z someone has achieved something useful in nand in the link i posted here yesterday!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
That's a pretty rude way to look at it.

You want us to increase the resale value of your device? Sorry development hasn't been timely enough for the old TouchPro - but there's not many people left with them, so not a lot of desire - or - in other words developer interest in the device.

We're trying hard to not let it fall behind in the project, and your desire to sell it being the only reason for the project to get NAND is pretty pretentious.

Perhaps it'll get there one day, but not because you want to sell your device :p.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] majkeljj:
we have big chance to have fully working NAND for RAPH :)

video:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjUyMjI0ODg4.html

links:

http://code.google.com/p/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm-raphael/

http://www.neopeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6490

http://www.fluyu.com/2011/04/7/Project_Announcement.html#eng
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] ftaka:
Sweet. I see movement!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] kelleci:
Awesome man!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] majkeljj:
yes, but i don't see any progres :( I would like to help but i'm not skilled enough.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] majkeljj:
more info here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1032232

in post 10 or 12 I added complete source of NAND RAPH800 from google code made by czshf1.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] mikx:
So If you said that guys made fully working android for HD2 by ripping desire or some other rom. I am asking you why is problem to rip rom from HTC Hero to Raphael? They have the same hardware?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] arrrghhh:
They don't have the same hardware - it's *similar* but that's different from *the same*.

The HD2 has basically the same hardware as a ton of native Android devices - these older phones aren't very standardized at all, and the new phones seem to all use very similar SoC's.

I'm pretty sure if it was just that easy it would've been done by now, 100x over :p.
[General Questions and Answers] taxicsh:
hi, How can I Backup certain programs from my ppc, and then in new rom restore them. I've tried Spb backup but it do for all data in your device.what is your solutions?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] luis1987:
Is there someone who is working on the multitouch for huawei u8150??:D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jsteelio:
Is this possible on the u8150? It would be nice to have.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Kickface:
Multitouch is nothing that software can control. If you want to enable it, you'll have to go hardware-deep, as multitouch compatibility relies on the hardware a phone is running.

Unfortunately, the U8150 hasn't got hardware support for multitouch.

There have been cases, though, where phones have had hardware support for multitouch, but the manufacturers haven't enabled it. I think one of the Nexus models suffered this. But the U8150 is another story.

So nope, unless someone cracks open an Ideos and solders in the hardware for multitouch, there won't be any support of that kind at all.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jsteelio:
Looks like it is possible and is close to being released!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=12506301#post12506301
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] veer1238:
Ideos goin to have it soon.. tj style is rocking it!
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sukemecuke:
Sooooooo I had an iPhone previously and just had a standard text plan. I didn't get anything different when I picked up my streak. I know when my wife receives like picture text it's almost $4 a text. When I receive them it shows up as a link to visit, and then opens in a browser. Does anyone know if it will charge me just the same? AT&T had no idea what I was talking about, they just said I don't have an MMS plan anymore just an SMS.......which seems odd that I could send/receive picture texts with an iPhone but can't with a streak and it requires a special plan?? Fawk that! You already get enough of my money.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tnjeffw:
there is no special text message package you need to send mms messages it is standard with the regular text messaging package, if you are having trouble sending mms messages there is something going on either with your phone or the network. call att and have them troubleshoot the issue.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] br4nd0nh347:
Yeah check the att wireless website. Go to the plans and dig for the exact details for the texting plan.

I'm not sure about mms. I think you need a data plan with your texting one. Especially with the iphone.

Basically your wife was charged 4 dollars because she only had the texting plan. If you connect to the internet when you don't have a plan they charge you a fee to connect that day plus a certain amount of charge per KB. or

the charge you the amount of KB that your media uses.
[Nook Color General] ZachSka87:
How do I install a keyboard other than the Gingerbread or Default that come in autonooter? Swiftkey, for example?

Please yell at me if I missed another thread on this somehow.
[Nook Color General] rainmakerrc:
Check the stickied workarounds thread in this forum.
[Nook Color General] ZachSka87:
Wow, I swear I read that thing like 3 times. I have no idea how I missed it. Thanks and sorry for clogging things up.
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Replace_the_Default_Keyboard

And yes, there are a bunch of threads on keyboards.................
[HD2 General] donkeanu:
how can i revive my dead T-MOBILE HD2?...

it has no power & bootloader; only continuous vibration after pressing the power button...
[HD2 General] kurt-willems:
What did you do right before it was dead?

Did you change the Radio?
[HD2 General] lukesan:
Might be battery related too.

Try to find someone else with an HD2 and swap the battery to try.
[HD2 General] sugui:
help

same here. i accidentaly flashed a diff radio rom

it just contiunsly vibrates

no light, no power,... please help me in reviving this .

thanks,
[HD2 General] TheATHEiST:
You cant, you've bricked it. Only way is to JTAG or replace board as far as I know.
[HD2 General] kurt-willems:
If you have flashed a EU/Asian Radio/stock ROM on a T-Mous device, than it's broken.
[HD2 General] Don-Maco:
I can still enter botloader flash hspl but can do nothing the phone just turns off

can anyone help me! when i connect and try to flash another rom it turns off at 29% ! Has anyone been able to solve this problem! it is a brand new phone i bricked the same day i bought it trying to put the energy rom! i dont live in the usa so i paid a hard 500 bucks to get this phone all for nothing:mad: :confused:
[HD2 General] T-Macgnolia:
If you can get it into bootloader than it is not bricked. It sort of sounds like you might have a dead battery. Try to let it charge are maybe get an external charger for it.

Now as for your problem with installing a ROM you can flash either by USB and computer or via SD card. If you use the USB and computer method then out your phone into bootloader and connect it to the computer via USB cable and wait for Serial in the white bar of the bootloader screen to change to USB and then flash the ROM.

If you want to use the SD card method put your SD card into a micro SD card reader and plug it into your computer. If the ROM you downloaded is a .exe then change it to .zip and then right click and select viewl or explore wich ever one it shows. Find the .nbh file and rename it to leoimg.nbh and copy it to the SD card and insert the SD card into your phone. Put your phone into bootloader but hold the volume down button down until you see searching on your phone screen then release the volume down button. The ROM will then flash.
[HD2 General] Don-Maco:
Thats the problem my battery works in another phone but my phone just not stay on! it stays long enough to flash catula & beepe hspl and back to spl! if i try flashing a radio is it flashes it then says its not supported on this rom after 100% if its not supported why install after 100% i got the radio on the t-mobile forum! so its good! When i used anothe battery that is charged to 100% the phone just wouldn't turn on! i even ordered a new battery and data cable yesterday brand new & will have to wait a crazy two weeks shipping! I ant see what went wrong cuz i have been flashing Htc & windows mobile devices like for ever! just this usa version wich is supposed to be high end is giving me the creeps! what can i do
[HD2 General] Don-Maco:
note i cant flash the rom cuz it hangs at 29% then nothing happens for like 10 minutes! then the phone turns itself off! and it just wouldn't budge! i never flashed through sd card so i really would like the exact steps to avoid errors! i dont wanna screw 500u$d
[HD2 General] T-Macgnolia:
Check your battery pins in your HD2 to make sure that one or more of them are not slightly bend more than it should be. If none don't appear to be bend if possible compare them to another HD2 to make sure the are in the proper positions. If they are then you might have an internal hardware problem. But don't just take my word for thag cause I am no expert when it

comes to the hardware side of the HD2.

Edit: I just read your other post here is a link to the thread on flashing via SD card. Read the first post for detailed instructions on flashing via SD card
[HD2 General] Don-Maco:
heey thanks man i'll try that as soon as i get from work and see if that helps!
[HD2 General] brym!:
Thanks for that tip, it solved my problem: the middle pin wasn't in proper position.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] obggbo:
i have being waiting for 2.3 a long time,
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jersr:
Check cyanogenmod forum for updates
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cantIntoCode:
This is why they have ditched XDA, this kind of persistence from people who have no idea how things work. It takes a very long time to get things like CM7 working. If you think you could do a better job why not give it a go yourself? These guys are giving up their spare time and are doing this for fun, it's no longer fun if you constantly have people nagging you about it. Just wait, it will come.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
These guys are giving up their spare time and are doing this for fun, it's no longer fun if you constantly have people nagging you about it

A lot like the pressure Darky gets too keep changing stuff .

jje
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stfudude:
hypocrisy is lame
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Adevem:
I apply the previous poster's screen name as your reply to this thread.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr Woolf:
I'm pretty sure this guy just asked a question, it doesn't seem to warrant a vitriolic reply.

doc v7.x.x, jpy, voodoo 5.1, va orange.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lmulli:
Couldnt agree more. Why do people get so arsey when someone asks a question - it usually takes longer for them to put down the person for asking the question than what the answer was in the first place!

And all this "these guys only do it for fun" - rubbish. There's plenty of money to be made via donations.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] well.heeled.man:
Some people do this work for fun in their spare time, some get donations for this work... and others simply ask what stage their work is at. Wheres the need to get arsey at simple question?...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stopi666:
Far too many negative ppl in this place.. When I read through these forums it seems alot of ppl cant wait to jump down other ppls throats and start being rude and nasty. Some ppl here need to relax.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dopedangel:
As you can see from this many things still have to be done

http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod7-for-samsung-galaxys/

What's working:

MTD

Radio

Audio

GPS

Wifi

Bluetooth

3D

HQ Video PLayback

internal SD-Card

external SD-Card

Most Sensors

What's not working:

LQ Video Playback (overlay problem)

Camera (should work but is black because of the overlay problem)

Polling problem on RIL (works after lock and unlock)

2G/3G toggle (works if no data connection is active)

Compass (works not at 100%)

USB sharing of internal SD-Card

commands: reboot recovery, reboot download (maybe not possible to implement)

FM-Radio

TV-Out

Charging if Phone is powered off causes the phone to boot

Random reboots (not often)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] liveffect:
couldnt agree with you more :)