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[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flonkas:
Id say the mytouch doesn't rlly stack up to the OG vibrant, let alone one with 4g and a ffc...
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tinpanalley:
I was talking about the mytouch 4g.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] STHNS:
What are you both delusional? specially Flonkas as MT4G beat that wannabe android device in every aspect. In this very forum under few threads down you may want to look at it. lol @ op for thinking Vibrant 4G and Vibrant is diff device.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tinpanalley:
I don't see why you feel the need to "lol" at me just for asking a question. Unless I didn't understand and you were just being funny. All I've read on the blogs all day today since it was announced is that it will be a better phone. I'm asking why and if that's true. That's all. Don't be such a snob. I found your reply flame-y and a little unnecessary. Again, IF you were trying to make fun of me.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stratax:
yeah the one differance is 4g and ffc which you can put a ffc in the original yourself. so really? HUGE upgrade -_- i cant wait for the new sidekick 4g though! i cant wait to get a new phone this one is ticking me off.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] STHNS:
Wasn't trying to offend you but was just stating facts as we covered it long ago here. Now in what ways will Vibrant 4G be better?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=909916

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=913896
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
I'm with STHNS. After buying a Captivate for my gf and doing research on it I am flabberghasted at how many issues plague that phone. The rooting procedure is a nightmare, the GPS is a joke, Samsung's bloatware is incredible and almost a year later they still haven't updated it to Froyo.

I am VERY glad I didn't get a Vibrant. Stay away is my advice.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tinpanalley:
Cool, guys thanks. I only heard about this phone on Monday when the rumors hit, so I had no idea people were already talking about it.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itmustbejj:
My guess is there won't be a new T-Mo phone that could seriously challenge the MT4G until March (sorry Nexus S users)
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kgbkny:
I am a former Vibrant owner. The MT4G is leaps and bounds beyond the Vibrant. In the 3 months that I've owned the Vibrant, the majority of my time was spent trying to apply various fixes to try to make the phone work as it should. With the MT4G, the only modification I've made was applying the Gingerbread launcher. As such, I have no reason to believe that the repackaged Vibrant (make no mistake, it's the same phone with a couple of extra bells and whistles thrown in) will be any better. I suggest avoiding Samsung phones altogether, at least in the near future. That company really needs to get its act together.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
Agreed. We've got the best processor, the most RAM, and because it's an HTC we've got tons of ROMs and developer support. There's been an ongoing project to port the Nexus S ROM over to SGS for months now and it's still unstable. We've got CM7 as a daily driver already.

I would agree with this. I had much respect for Samsung but after buying my gf a Captivate and doing more research I'm on it I'm very displeased with them.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] STHNS:
LOL kgbkny I remember when I had HD2 and Vibrant first came out people came up to me and was like this is better than yours I was like idiot you don't even have lagfix installed and I can beat it down without scaling my CPU at 768mhz. He had no idea so I installed various packages and fixes and he agreed it ran better after and was thankful. But ya Samsung you should avoid it period go with superior mobile vendor like HTC how many phone that is flagship of many carrier is not HTC? Lets be real now HTC is the way to go.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
That's true.

MT4G

EVO4G

DROID INCREDIBLE

Basically everyone but AT&T has an HTC as their flagship phone.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] STHNS:
lol they have reason for that as AT&T's flagship is iPanzy 4 which is another thread of its own but ya AT&T is just crippling Android device in its lineup. I been telling ya all not to trust THE death star as VZ is the only carrier left from the OG Bell 6/7 split.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCp-1hgfxI
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] glfpunk:
I laughed at this one and I'm a vibrant owner. I got my wife a mt4g for xmas and there is no comparison. Stock out of the box the mt4g is leaps and bounds better than the vibrant. As far as speed and response, the stock mt4g was at a minimum as fast as my rooted/modded/voodoo lagfixed vibrant.

I've installed just about every rom that's come out for the vibrant from eugene, master, and team whiskey as well as every leaked modem that's come out and the mt4g consistently gets better signal than my vibrant as well. I'll be sitting in my house and the vibrant goes back and forth between edge and 3g and I've never seen the mytouch on edge once. Then you have to factor in the gps problem of the samsungs and the fact that samsung has a terrible history of supporting their devices. They'll straight up leave you hanging. They came out with the galaxy s line, then in no time flat they come out with the nexus s, and now they've come out with the vibrant 4g. All that is great if they support their devices when they move on to new ones but they have a history of not doing that. In the meantime I can put gingerbread on my old ass HTC G1.

The one thing the Samsung has going for it is the screen. That screen is hot **** but it's not so great that it makes up for all the other areas that it's deficient in IMO.

Plus the mt4g has sensui. Not everyone likes sense. I do, but more importantly I can run the senseui but if I want something different I can root the phone and install a more vanilla android experience. With the vibrant there isn't any stable sense roms running on it. So you have more variety with the mt4g as well. Plus the extra RAM doesn't hurt either or the FFC. I like the physical buttons and the trackpad as well. YMMV.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] surfnhawaii808:
see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb5K1CBTRHU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0sRMdYFlyc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZaFM6UgDnQ
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greenstuffs:
Actually the original galaxy s the international version had the FFC, may be tmo is just playing this apple game of streaming the upgrades for its customers.

The MT4 will still be the better phone if samsung chose to use the same wimpy cpu already found in their vibrant.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kgbkny:
AT&T is getting the Desire HD very soon. Of all the current phones, it's the only one that I would give up the MT4G for.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] STHNS:
Did you check the communication spec for DHD? It uses 900/2100mhz for 3G you won't get 3G in USA but you can use 2G for d/v. Far as MT4G vs DHD goes I was like you also but as they do share similar spec but if you look at benchmark you will see MT4G is superior than DHD but DHD does have 4.3" display lol which I miss so dearly, but also would have picked DHD if had 3G support.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] projex0:
i have both the my touch and the vibrant, the mytouch is overall better aside from the beautiful screen the vibrant has, just like the person stated a few post back after rooted with nerov5 and voodoo the mytouch stock still held its own.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jayrod1980:
I've owned the vibrant, the mytouch4g, and the nexus s. They all have their good points and I've had to drop multiple exchanges on them all. The vibrant has a great screen as long as you don't get one with super blue tint, can have gps issues, sctatches easy and has awesome codec support. The mytouch has great specs, awesome gps, poor and smallish screen and easily scratched and creaky front button area. The nexus s has a great screen unless yours is piss yellow or green, same scratch magnet body as vibrant, and a fast but slightly glitchy gingerbread rom. I hated rfs, most of touchwiz on the vibrant. The mytouch seems the best built but the screen and finish for a flagship phone, plus a cumbersome mysense ui were annoying. I had to skin my entire nxs and have had unresponsive or dim capacitive buttons as well as gingerbread glitches. All of these phones are less than perfect but all in the same league. The mytouch has the most room to grow I think with its extra ram and most of all the goodies people want including the better radio. I personally don't like mysense and hated the screen but cyan solves the ui part and you can get real sense on it now. I'm sticking with my nxs because of its bloatfree nature and slick design as well as the nice screen, but to each their own. I think most users if given the chance to really try everything out on all the phones would pick the mytouch for the reasons stated above.

I'm most peeved about the qc on all of these phones, especially if you didn't get your phone on upgrade. You paid 500+ dollars and get a phone with bad paint, or a broken speaker or washed out screen, nicks on the battery cover, etc. My g1 didn't have any of those issues and neither did my wifes. Shouldn't be so hard to get a premium or flagship phone defect free.

Sorry for the super phone rant but bottom line is go try all of them out. If you just got the mytouch and the vibrant 4g is coming, rest easy. Its easily as good or better than the vibrant 4g if its still got rfs and I doubt anyone will be seeing even their mytouch 14.4mbps cap in the next year. I'm in an hspa+ area and never saw higher than 8mbps and my nexus s and vibrant got 5-6mbps. At the form factor you are using and the hardware inside, I never noticed any benefit of higher speeds even using faster wifi. While my nexus is being warrantied, I'm rocking my old g1 with cyan and the 5mbps isn't the thing that's holding it back. I can't think of anything on a 4inch screen you would need faster than 3mbps for. That's not making excuses but I think only air cards for laptops or tablets might be the only devices that even could tangibly utilize more bandwidth.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hammondnav:
I just want to point out that MT4G's "washed out" screen isn't a QC issue, but rather a component sourcing issue. Nobody but Samsung makes S-AMOLED screens and they stopped selling them to HTC after the first batch of Incredible hit the market. There's not much HTC can do about that...

With that said, I agree with a few other posters that the MT4G is far better than the entire Galaxy S line. If rooting and custom ROMs are important, then there's simply no comparison as HTC devices are heavily supported by the dev community. Cyanogen doesn't even bother with Galaxy S...
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jayrod1980:
Well my mytouch had just as many qc issues as those other phones. If the screen issue is eally just component sourcing then you could say the phones screen overall by default is very poor. I never found one with the good screen or one that even compared to the g2 let alone the samoled. I was on phone number four with the mytouch and had qc issues with every one of them. Since I got the phone through retentions, I was just tired of constantly shipping back and having to wait a week to get a new one. Never was able to have them extend the deal they gave me to a corporate store so I could just find the good screen one myself. Even now I'm still having to call tmobile about billing issues because the warehouse lags in confirming you actually returned the phone. That issue alone isn't the actual phones fault but never getting one new that didn't have nicked battery plate, off center camera and broken ear speaker, creaky front, paint issues, and never getting one with the good screen shows htc has the same qc problem as samsung.

Not a hate rant on the mytouch only as I've got the same qc crap with samsungs stuff too. Just wanted to point out that the screen issue is real, if there's a good alternative I can't accept that the other screen is an acceptable alternative.

About people saying that htc is better because of dev support, the nexus s had cyanogen alpha in less than 10 days after release. The mytouch had one working mod (hats off the the iceglacier guys) that improved bat life, some apps and sped things up, but was still mysense. A month after release and it still didn't have anything else until people bought zinx and others some phones to play with.

The nexus s in a month will probably have a lot more dev support, and is already ahead of where the mytouch was at the same time despite selling more phones and a larger ad campaign.

Enjoy either phone, or the vibrant too, but none are perfect. Treying to keep it fair here. :)
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kgbkny:
The Desire HD has cleared FCC with AT&T's 3G bands:

http://www.androidcentral.com/desire-hd-gets-fcc-approval-n-american-3g

Further information, released 4 days ago, indicates that Telus, a Canadian carrier, will be carrying the DHD. It doesn't seem like the phone will be available in the U.S., but a Canadian version can be utilized with AT&T's 3G network, as it uses the same bands.

http://www.androidcentral.com/possible-telus-desire-hd-release-and-pricing-info-leaked
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jayrod1980:
How does this relate to the mytouch? Similar guts but the dhd has a bigger screen, more metal and a smaller battery does it not?

Battery is awesome on the mytouch, especially with custom roms. I've had great battery life on my sns too, probably due to the blacker gingerbread and the aggressive process killer in 2.3
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kgbkny:
It was a response to a previous post.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jeffmeister:
Samsung... enough said. They make crap phones. You might get a better display but that's about it.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stratax:
I lost respect for Samsung after getting their Behold 2. they fvcked over people worse than they did with thei galaxy S phones with that one lol. they didnt release one update after promising one, after that i just traded it for a mytouch 3g and had every mytouch since. every mytouch ive had, had bad quality. first was a hunk of plastic, second was too bulky and short, and the keyboard wiggled alot, then now the mytouch 4g i have with defective screen and my ffc keeps moving or something, etc. im staying away from tmobiles mytouchs for now as well. rather get a G2 :)
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jeffmeister:
I loved all my mytouch's... and ive owned a lot of phones =D
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stratax:
well the first one i liked coming from a behold 2, the mytouch slide was horrible lol. its like HTC does perfect then messes up on the simpleist things! it makes no sense. they have some problem with screens, first the nexus 1 with the messed up screen period that was horrible. they need to pick one company to go with and stick with it. like samsung, i dont like them but they have good screens.

they said they stopped buying the amoled cause its too expensive but it will get them in the ass later on because people wont rely on them if they keep fvcking up the screens and stuff on phones.

i mean seriously, think of our mt4gs with amoled/samoled, centered ffc, capacitive buttons, 4" screen. i guess i can keep dreaming though :)

id rather give up my ffc for good screen, and capacitive buttons though
[Nook Color General] smithp67:
My nook was rooted and I was happily using it for about 3 weeks.

It was a ver. 1.0.0 model.

One night I went to turn it on and it wouldnt come on. I thought somehow the battery must have drained out. I plugged it in when I got home, but after a while I tried to start it and it still wouldnt.

What I have noticed is that the backlight comes on, changes intesity a couple times, goes off and then comes back on, like some sort of loop.

There is no message screen or N screen. There is no booting from SD, as far as everything I've tried to burn to SD and boot from.

I've tried all the key combos, some result in different variations of the backlight sequence but nothing else.

I think it is caught in some sort of loop before looking for any bootable system.

I want to try everything I (and everyone else) can think of before I go to the trouble of shipping it back to B&N.

Can you put the original stock system on an SD, even though I doubt it would boot from that either, but just a thought.

Thanks,

Phil
[Nook Color General] gedster314:
Looks like you are going to be enrolling in the NC advanced class. I really can't help on this but this weekend I plan one doing a the group install internally and I should be knowledgable afterwards.

Start by looking into creating the froyo image one a sdcard. There is a thread. The NC should be able to boot from that card. If it does great. Now look for thread about recovering images and using dd to write images. Someone did post the stock images 1.01
[Nook Color General] hahyun6:
have you tried booting Nookie Froyo through an SD card? Then you could probably flash a stock rom (zip is in the forums) and restore.
[Nook Color General] smithp67:
Froyo

Yeah, I have Froyo on an SD card right now. Doesnt make a difference.

I have pretty much run out of things to try, unless there is some new, secret key combo that fixes everything.

I really don't think its even getting to the OS, I think I must have some real hardware failure that has nothing to do with the stock or rooted OS.
[Nook Color General] spiicytuna:
Sounds like it may be time for a warranty claim...
[Nook Color General] mckooter:
i agree, if its not even getting to the point where it can boot from sd then theres nothing that i can think of that will work, at the point your at i dont think it can recognize any button input or usb data as there literally is nothing it knows how to do
[Nook Color General] wpnyc2009:
Is this possibly the first successful Bricking?

I hope not!! Keep us posted on what works and what doesn't work.

Good luck, mate.

Cheers!
[Nook Color General] smithp67:
Received new Nook Color.

Well I did a warranty claim.

It was a very long wait on the B&N help line. I hung up and used the online chat window. That was a very long wait as well, about 25 minutes, but I finally got through.

After explaining all the things I tried and what the nook was doing, she wanted me to hold the power button for 10 seconds. I was like, "Ok, I've tried holding it for several minutes at a time, several hundred times, but what the hell." Then she wanted to know if I dropped it or not. Mine was pristine though, not even a scratch.

So finally she said I qualified for a replacement.

The deal is they give you a ups shipping label and they ship you a new Nook. If they determine that your nook got wrecked because of your own stupidity or whatever they bill you for the new one. She said the new one would ship the next day, but it didn't ship for over a week. I shipped mine the next day with the label they sent me.

So now finally I have my new nook. I haven't rooted it yet, though I probably will. I don't believe my problem was ever related to the software things I did, I dont believe that could wreck the hardware.

Also I never mentioned rooting it or anything.
[Nook Color General] djxcee:
Did you try burning CWR onto a SD card and seeing if it boots?
[HD2 General] connexion2005:
All links pulled due to XDA Request after an XDA member complained I was only out for profits to a moderator on a few products I have. Due to the fact I link to a product or two and a few other things in many videos, I was asked to pull any content relating to this.

I will still be offering all this great material at my website. Just go to google and search for MobileTechVideos.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LGS1231:
Okay, I'm a complete noob and I'm following these instructions (http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2) using Gfree I believe.

I finished downloading the SDK File Manager and all the .zip folders that were mentioned on the site. However, I am stuck at the first temp root step. It says I can either enter in the command via cmd window or a different terminal. I chose a cmd window because I already have that and know how to use.

I run Windows 7, so I simply type cmd in the search bar to pull up a cmd window. I then "cd desktop" and then "cd gfree_temp-root" because it says to navigate to that folder. However, when I enter in the first command, my cmd window tells me this "adb is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file". Does anyone know what I have to do?

Also, do I have to install Eclipse and an ADT plug-in to root my phone? And is anyone available right now to chat and walk this complete noob through this????:confused:
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zkid2010:
You're fine, just make sure your android sdk with adb is in your system path, in Win7 find it in ctrl panel/sys and security/system -> advanced system settings on the left, then advanced tab, environment variables at the bottom. In there in the bottom text window, find Path, edit it, go to the end of the path line and if there isnt already add a ; to the end of the line then paste in the full path to your android sdk where adb is - for me someandroidsdkpath\platform-tools
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LGS1231:
Alright, bumping into a new problem. I found an alternative way to run adb through another guide on the forum. Downloaded adb.exe and this is what I do.

Pull up a cmd window and then cd to the folder that contains the adb.exe, and then I copied all the files that needed to be push on the wiki page that needed to be push into that same folder. Howeverr, I am getting permission denied.

I got adb to recognize my device and all, but don't understand why permission is being denied.

EDIT: While I am waiting for a reply, I went ahead and did what the previous user told me to do. Now I can use adb through my cmd window. I navigate to the window of the file but I still get permission denied. What's going on?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zkid2010:
Hmmm, are you in adb shell running the commands? ie a $ prompt?

the prompt at the point you send the push command would look like (for Windows): c:\myrootfileshere> adb push somefiles /sdcard/wherever
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LGS1231:
No, I am in a cmd window.

This what is looks like:

C:\User\XXXX\Desktop\gfree_temp-root> adb push su /sdcard/su ... I would then get "failed to copy 'su' to '/sdcard/su': Permission denied

Even if I wanted to use adb shell, I would get this:

C:\User\XXXX\Desktop\gfree_temp-root>adb shell

$ adb push su /sdcard/su

adb: permission denied
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zkid2010:
Alrighty then :D try adb devices (not in the shell) and just verify it actually shows your phone, it won't show 'PHONE' but it's either going to show something or not.

Next, make sure the sdcard is mounted for the phone and not usb disk mode for the pc

Another thought, make sure there isnt a loose 'adb.exe' in the folder, we want to use the one ref'd from androidsdk\platform-tools

All of that failing, mount the SD card.. copy/paste the file(s) to to SD card.. unmount SD card.. continue as if you pushed it to the SD card
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LGS1231:
WHOOHOOO! I am rooted! I had to turn off the USB transfer thing and it all worked!!!! THANKS SO MUCH!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zkid2010:
Nice bro! :D If I helped at all and if you wouldn't mind, hit the thanks ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LGS1231:
No problem!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zkid2010:
thanks and happy flashing! :D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] stevemoffler:
It wont install on the Droid 1 I picked up, anyone have any.client what's going on? Oh and its burning through batteries and its all extra laggy.