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[Vibrant General] degeneration:
I am excited for 2 reasons.

1) Will hopefully remove some of the bad rap on the Vibrant. My friends with Galaxy S phones will need less convincing it's an awesome phone (as I am the only one willing to flash roms, which our Devs have made stupid simple...)

2) Like everyone else mentioned the source which will give a few new hints for the devs, if they didn't already figure it out or something better...

Although I think these are both trumped by Krylon making awesome progress on a 2.3 ... See what you have done? You ruined my excitement for OTA update, are you happy with yourself?
[Vibrant General] sev15:
Dose that mean mayme a nihilism port?
[Vibrant General] sev15:
Dose this mean a miui port
[Vibrant General] K5C5S5:
+1+1+1+1+1
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
I agree but ill still try the official Froyo. At least now when we flash back to stock, it will be with 2.2 :D....that is if the Devs make a zip for the official 2.2 to flash back to.
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
I have a question as well about the official Froyo coming out. Can we still be rooted if we flash back to stock or not to get the OTA?

Also, i have the stock JFD.tar, is there a stock Ji6.tar?
[Vibrant General] daddysays:
There is NO way that this vibrant will EVER see an official gingerbread update. I keep seeing people quote that guy from TMO but I seriously doubt we will see 2.1, 2.2, and especially 2.3 on some of the older phones, like the behold 2?

It is either an outright lie or misunderstood. He probably meant every phone will see ONE new update if android is updated within 5-6 months of the phones release. Read the wording careful, I dont need to, I know better.
[Vibrant General] jdanisevich:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it matters if you're rooted. I'm pretty sure as long as your build.prop is the official JI6, you should be okay. There are actually two versions of the JI6 .tar, the leaked one, and the official one T-Mo pushed. Not sure if that makes a difference, but you'll probably want the official one. You can probably search this thread, but I know it's on samfirmware.com (the second JI6).
[Vibrant General] psz01:
Regarding the source being released, let's not forget that Samsung released source for the Behold II.... Without any driver source.

I read it as "all currently available blah blah blah...." not "every Android phone we've ever sold in the history of the company blah blah blah...."

Though I don't doubt you're right.
[Vibrant General] MorphiusFaydal:
Team Whiskey makes awesome roms, yes (I'm running Nero v5 right now). But CyanogenMod is straight AOSP - Eugene and TW are right now modifiying exising 2.2 Samsung builds, while CM and Team Douche are trying to build from scratch - it gives them access to everything, so they could end up with a faster, more stable product. So everyone wants CM because it's "stock" Android - nothing added on, nothing to work around... It lets the CM devs get stuff fixed without relying on anyone but themselves. Which gives us faster updates. And more features. :)
[Vibrant General] Chortles:
The bit about sbl.bin being included with KA6 concerns me (the idea of getting that OTA), since messing that up would = hardware-bricking (read: doom) for my Vibrant, which has already suffered SO many software-brickings just in the past day alone, in one case from me accidentally entering download mode instead of recovery and not knowing any way out of it except removing the battery or flashing back to JFD...

EDIT: As for "Vibrant 4G," an employee at a T-Mobile store I went to today claimed that 'for the same price' a Vibrant could be upgraded to psuedo-4G.
[Vibrant General] here.david:
GREAT...tx's...
[Vibrant General] remixfa:
the only one misunderstanding it is you. :)

the behold2 was announced to be DOA by samsung last year. its not getting any updates. no phone currently out was actually promised 2.3, so if it doesnt happen, it shouldnt be a sticking point for people. What made people so mad about the GalaxyS is that when it was released it came with "2.2 froyo comming very soon" promises by samsung and i beleive they even advertised that. Add to that the fact that they launch extremely similiar devices on 2.2 and 2.3 (nexus S), and the galaxy S is still on 2.1 and that equals a lot of pissed off people.

bottom line is, unless the MANUFACTURER, not the dude selling it to you, promises a certain update line from the start (like samsung did with galaxyS), you have no right to expect any updates what so ever. the phone was great the day you bought it, and its still great now. everything else is perception.

the only useful pieces of 2.2 for most people are adobe flash support and wifi calling capabilities. What does 2.3 actually bring to the table for the "average user" that they NEED to have it? quit trying to keep up with the jones's, because thats all it is. "bob has 2.3, so why cant i".

the only reason i care about 2.3 is that it has dual core support, which 2.2 and under doesnt have. but of course, that has no affect on the vibrant since its single core, so whats the big deal? what benifit will we actually get out of it besides a higher number on our build prop?? the dual core galaxyS2 comes with 2.3, so ill get it when i get the phone :)
[Vibrant General] jdanisevich:
Well one thing to keep in mind about 2.3 is that it has hardware optimizations for Hummingbird processors, much like 2.2 did for Snapdragon. 2.3 will be a huge jump for our devices.
[Vibrant General] daddysays:
I haven't read past this, and I'm sure someone already pointed this out, but the behold 2 WAS supposed to be upgraded to 2.0 or 2.1 there is a video floating around of some guy from samsung saying it in a promo. Which is why I got my upgrade back to get this phone. Don't try to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.

Also if they can out date their own products whenever they feel like it then that statement is even more worthless, so you kind of proved my point for me.
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
I just flashed back to JKD. Using Titanium to reinstall all my Apps and man, 2.1 is S.L.O.W.
[Vibrant General] SeanFloyd:
Lol @ dudes lawsuit now, money well spent
[Vibrant General] sadkorean34:
I really do...

have this feeling of update will be the Eclair.

Not the Froyo..
[Vibrant General] chris3582:
update

i chated online with T-mobile and the women said that they have no info at all about 2.2 update for the vibrant!!
[Vibrant General] es7241:
Customer service reps hardly ever know anything
[Vibrant General] BruceElliott:
People? Do you mean "normal" people? For every million phones sold, how many do you think get modded? 200-300...maybe?
[Vibrant General] StefanB86:
Who do you believe in more, the company CMO or online support? :rolleyes:
[Vibrant General] chris3582:
i don't know who to believe... i would think that if the cmo announced it than the people working for tmobile should know. Listen, i hope we all get this update. We have heard this all before. Anyway, lets keep our fingers crossed
[Vibrant General] rel500:
1000s respectively for every million
[Vibrant General] BruceElliott:
[djgromit] "An analogy would be on a car...if you want to make it perform better, you can add things like different exhaust, or change the air/fuel mixture or things like that, but you'll still be limited by the output of the engine itself.

But if you open the engine up and actually get inside, you can do things like bore out the cylinders and change internal parts which intrinsically effect the way the engine itself behaves, and can tune it and tweak it to really maximize the performance."

Uh...very good analogy, but not quite perfect. The reality is a bit less sensational...

The engine is not accessible by a new ROM or by any other means, because the engine is the Hummingbird processor architecture. New ROMs/OS versions are analogous to the firmware associated with one or more of the engine controller processors in an automobile. Without the source code, the devs have been updating the interior of the car, the sound system, the body, etc. Now we can get to the engine controller firmware, but never to the engine itself.

That extension/corrrection of the analogy helps to explain to Cashy why he will never be able to run the engine faster and get better gas mileage. Doing so would violate laws of thermodynamics. Said another way, no engine tuning tweaks can overcome the energy liability of flooring the gas pedal. Furthermore, many (but not all) engine tuning tweaks cause the engine to expend more energy for better performance. This is analogous to setting clockspeed(min) = clockspeed(max) = 1.3x :D

[Cashy] "Omg omg omg yes I'm ready to have a overclock that doesn't have horrible battery life, and of course CM7!!"
[Vibrant General] VeryCoolAlan:
Actually cm doesn't use the vibrant base as a base

It uses its own base.

That's what makes it faster!

Doesn't use samsung touchwiz base

Uses own made vanilla base
[Vibrant General] BruceElliott:
Fabulous policy! (Not sure how it plays into the Open Source licenses associated with the underlying code modules; but I respect it anyway.)
[Vibrant General] BruceElliott:
You lost me there, bud. Suggest you re-read the OP and the OP's post #18.
[Vibrant General] secretseven:
My brain just exploded
[Vibrant General] eltormo:
Don't be surprise if Tethering USB and Wifi are gone,considering that T-mobile doesn't want people to really have unlimited data.
[Vibrant General] kcp877:
I this really happens every page on here is going to fill up with questions about how to get the OTA and why didn't I get the OTA yet etc... Someone should come up with a sticky to refer everyone to with a link for a how to get back to stock, which files needed, etc...
[Vibrant General] :
The main difference is that is still uses up your minutes.
[Vibrant General] BruceElliott:
The carriers love WiFi because WiFi bypasses their data network.
[Vibrant General] SkeptiKSZ:
Bingo! I absolutely agree 100%. It'll be best since many will have questions about it, they can just refer to one thread and bam!!
[Vibrant General] darknight260:
He was referring to WiFi tethering I'm sure.
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
when has Wifi Tethering been on a stock T-mo ROM?

;) :rolleyes: :p
[Vibrant General] PulldOvr:
I just want to note, I got the gf a new g2 today and it had wifi tethering and usb tethering intact ... In settings like it should be ..
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
I"m talking about a Vibrant here....

not a G2....

I'm just saying. how can they remove something that they didn't have to begin with.

and I'm not talking about the i9000 either..
[Vibrant General] ndwgs:
That's a G2 made by HTC, totally different. It matters to SAMSUNG Vibrant.

Edit: Scrizz beat me, sorry, double post

Sent from the helm of the Vibrant Community!
[Vibrant General] PulldOvr:
Sorry didn't realize you meant only tmo samsung roms ... I thought you meant in general ...
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
It's fine just last I remember this thread talked about froyo push for Vibrant.

;)

Even though I could see how you could get confused.

It's all Krylon's FAULT!!! :mad:
[Vibrant General] juice1214:
Can anybody give me a link on how 2 get back 2 stock rom thanks
[Vibrant General] lawalty:
He he... Im finished Odin(ing) my Vibrant back to stock. Everything is working like i remembered it before i went on a rom flashing beng. EXCEPT for my game 'The Sims 3' for some strange reason its giving me a parcing error! DAMN! i kinda liked that game.

Now for the waiting..
[Vibrant General] SkeptiKSZ:
I just ODIN back to stock JFD. I used JFD because it was the version they used in the tutorial, nevertheless, I have read a couple people say flash JI6 and others say flash JFD. I am a little confused about this. Will one of these only be acceptable to T-Mobile in order to get the OTA or are both ok to have. Thanks in advance!
[Vibrant General] krylon360:
why is it my fault. lol

Didn't have a chance to find the OTA files..

but I did find the Vibrant 4G files. LOL
[Vibrant General] anthonys2r:
I'm just wondering, for those that want to odin back to stock to get the OTA, why not just flash KA6 stock, cause its most likely going to be that.
[Vibrant General] SkeptiKSZ:
Try HERE
[Vibrant General] SkeptiKSZ:
Now I'm even more confused. LOL. I flashed JFD and man 2.1 is freakin slow! Just makes me love these devs even more!!
[Vibrant General] exploit777:
let's make a bets, who will be first to release - TW with their Nero v6 or T-MO with their official 2.2 Froyo build.
[Vibrant General] phantomzer0:
I'm suprised at how many are jumping ship back to stock in anticipation of the OTA. How many times have we heard this stuff before? Why not wait until we know it's out and about and then ODIN?

Seems kinda silly to me when we don't even have one confirmed successful OTA.
[Vibrant General] anthonys2r:
Well, what I'm saying is, why not just odin this because that is what most likely what the over the air update is going to be.
[Vibrant General] mr2t32:
Or none of the above. I still say there is a chance that there will not be any OTA tomorrow, so i'll wait on odin back to stock until it is confirmed. If i had to pick between those two, I say Nero v6 is more likely than OTA.
[Vibrant General] jdanisevich:
Why do you guys want to receive the OTA? It's most likely going to the same (or a very similar) KA6 build. There's also a small chance the OTA could brick your device (JI6 bricked plenty). Even if there is a difference between the builds, it will probably be on here in no time anyway. I doubt there's anything beneficial to gain from the OTA at this point.

That being said, If you really must, I would go to official version of JI6. JFD may work too, but most devices should be on JI6 at this point.

I made the thread so people would know the source (hopefully) should be posted sometime in the not-near-enough future, not for people to get worked up over a worthless update we're already playing with.
[Vibrant General] jumaaneface:
was there anything cute in the vibrant4g files?
[Vibrant General] BruceElliott:
Yes, probably right. It is confusing because there are several WiFi apps.
[Vibrant General] BruceElliott:
Amen, Bro.
[Vibrant General] d33dvb:
I for one am not getting my hopes up.

f youu sammy. #neveragain not even a tv, a watch, a calculator, a pair of socks.
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
only Samsung toilet paper.

;)

:D
[Vibrant General] boimarc89:
idk about their shunting thier TVs, My 42' Samsung TV shows my XBOX 360 in full 1080p res beautifully and has refresh refresh rate that makes Madden 11 and Sunday Football look sexxxxxxy LOL

ill believe the 2.2 update when it shows up on my screen or in KIES, otherwise its all smoke & mirrors
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
sooo very true
[Vibrant General] oka1:
Froyo has been out all they did is put it in a long paragraph because people don't read anymore

they have been keeping it a secret from people
[Vibrant General] shovelhead83:
Tried it! Been waiting on broken promises of 2 ply. Quilted Northern has had it for years. Im goin back to leaves til then.
[Vibrant General] Tweak222:
Nevermind :) Thanks for the news update. Perhaps if they update i'll be in the first wave! :D Atleast I hope soo!
[Vibrant General] STiGLOGiC:
You are on JFD now? Remember that NANDROID backup you did WAY back when you rooted? Now is the time to use it. So long as you are running a 2.1 kernel, you should be right back to the day you rooted. If you didn't make a NANDROID backup(even though pretty much everywhere says to do this) now is the time to kick yourself.
[Vibrant General] hurrpancakes:
It's not that hard to ODIN back to stock
[Vibrant General] jdanisevich:
And here's the official JI6 T-Mo pushed for those who asked, but please go back a page our two and see what I wrote. I'll update the OP in the morning.

http://www.multiupload.com/GYZT0YH5DZ

Password is samfirmware.com
[Vibrant General] STiGLOGiC:
Right, but he wanted to go back to JI6 stock T-Mo. Might as well put that backup to good use.
[Vibrant General] Senorkabob:
Nah to clarify, wifi calling is much different than using google voice. It still uses your minutes, however, it gives you a signal boost off of the wifi. Unlike google voice which is kind of a voip thing.
[Vibrant General] Senorkabob:
+1

Its kind of like Favre retiring. Ill believe it when I see it. Although I've been on froyo for months now so really all I want is the source to be released for some delicious CM action.
[Vibrant General] Grantisimo:
But, the CM team has moved on to Gingerbread. No CM6 for us.

Sent from my Samsung Vibrant
[Vibrant General] vc91ortega:
Hey does anybody know the exact time the update will be up..... would be nice to know
[Vibrant General] jdanisevich:
OTA updates are done in batches over a couple weeks. This is done to ease their server load, and insure the update is working properly. If something if wrong with the update only a couple thousand are affected, rather than hundreds of thousands. There is no way to tell for sure when you'd get it.
[Vibrant General] mprosper69:
too little, too late. the Roms available here are still way better than samsucks. and probably always will. Love Tmos network in my area, however samsuck dropped the ball.
[Vibrant General] mprosper69:
OTA sucks

Received OTA, and guess what? BRICKED. I have 2 phones one stock the other rooted n flashed. Now they have to send another phone. I would tread carefully with that OTA.
[Vibrant General] rayvil30:
To be honest. The only OTA I'm waiting on is Masters new Axura version. Lol. I'm sticking with XDA. Though I will be very intersted to see what is on the Froyo update.
[Vibrant General] epakrat75:
Please don't pollute this thread with your baseless accusations of the OTA causing bricks. Instead, start your own thread in the General forum post away in there. While, I agree this thread shouldn't even be here...it still is. The mods will likely need all the help they can get keeping up today and the ensuing days / weeks cleaning up nonsensical posts / threads.

Just like with JI6, many people claimed to have had this happen. There might even have been some legitimate cases. It was likely not a significant figure regardless of how some may have wanted to distort things to the contrary. Considering how many people have taken matters into their own hands by not running stock around here, I wouldn't be surprised by such an end result.

I wouldn't blame Samsung / TMO for not testing against all the extra variables presented by XDA member choices. Many people even started lying that they ODIN'ed back to stock, didn't root and then simply left things alone. I didn't buy it then and I don't buy it now. I also feel somewhat sorry for the all involved when / if they replace at no extra charge to consumer something they may have contributed to breaking themselves.

Unless you revert back to JFD / JI6 to apply the upgrade, you're just asking for issues IMO. Better yet, wait for the OTA to become available here as a CWM flashable zip. You must know it will. With so many choices, will people make the right ones? The ones who don't likely will end up with (soft-) bricked phones.

You mean newer than this one? Axura may have reached EOL (End Of Life). This new release has a new name.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=922019
[Vibrant General] rayvil30:
Saw that. Really thinking about making the plunge.
[Vibrant General] alwaysbindaas:
Thanks..that's the best way, no use giving someone else a chance to blame you for their mistakes.
[Vibrant General] hurrpancakes:
I don't think we've seen the last of Axura, Kana is an AOSP clone, I don't think Master is gonna stop working on his customized ROM just yet.
[Vibrant General] Lethal_NFS:
I also do not see Master putting Axura aside. This is his best rom in my opinion and when this official 2.2 rom releases I am positive Master will bring out Axura 3.0.0.0 or something. I will never revert back to any stock roms. Official 2.2 is not impressive at all anyways. The ONLY thing that is nice about it is Skype.
[Vibrant General] cjggilbert:
LMAO thanks for that
[Vibrant General] cjggilbert:
Amen,,, this is what I have been saying for a few days and been getting beat up over it because people want 'OFFICIAL' froyo. What's the difference? Oh yea I know bloatware, customization, I could go on,,, If people wanted to have everything OFFICIAL and dictated to them, they should have bought an I phone
[Vibrant General] dizzy21:
Specs for OTA update...

Does anyone have the specs for the OTA update? What's included besides all the bloat? Can we use KIES for the update?.. Just curious as i have been reading that it may brick our phones.
[Vibrant General] ryangera:
I spend way too much time flashing different roms as is. Why would I spend time going back to stock and waiting around for an OTA that I know wont be as good as the nero/axura/kana/whatever rom Im using now. Flashing roms is like unwrapping presents. TW and Master are the cool relatives that send something you actually want. Samsung and T-Mobile are your grandparents who heard you wanted red dead redemption so they sent a cowboy hat and a sonic the hedgehog game. Devs getting the source code is the only good thing about the OTA. That's the same as your grandparents sending cash. Enjoy your cowboy hats. Ill be waiting patiently for the next waves of roms.
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
I'm gonna start calling BS.
[Vibrant General] willsnews:
since this is 2.2 if the ota bricks you cant you just restore a backup?
[Vibrant General] Daedidm:
Word. I had asked before, but I shall remain patient. I will simply be happy when I know GB is running on my phone. I am, however, still curious and this seems like a good point to dip my toe in the proverbial water as far as development goes.
[Vibrant General] remixfa:
dude, i work for tmo. ther was never a promised 2.x upgrade. there was a promised 1.6 upgrade... which happened... and then was pulled because it was causing more harm than good. samsung announced shortly after that they were scrapping support for the behold2 because they couldnt get the update to work properly. so yea, im tellin ya, u dont know what ur talking about :). just because there is a video of some dude claiming something on the internet, doesnt make it true. if i make a video saying bill gate's parents are an alien and bigfoot and post it on youtube, does it make it true? lol.

on the 2.3 optimizations for the hummingbird processor.. what optims? the nexus S doesnt have any noticible improvements, or am i just missing something? i know it shows an improvement over stock galaxyS but thats mostly because 2.3 uses ext4 file system where the galaxyS is on a 1980's file system.. lol. of course, Voodoo uses ext4 anyways, so if ur on nero or some other rom, you already have that benifit.
[Vibrant General] dasunsrule32:
Uh oh moment, don't forget to flash the ji6 modem. :-)
[Vibrant General] Bl4ckpheniX:
The vibrant never came with 1.6? It came with 2.1. Working at t-mobile you know this if you work there. I know that when I purchased my two vibrants and had issues, customer loyalty dept. told me it was all going to be fixed with the 2.2 update. I never heard about it from a video... It was from a t-mobile rep. That is a pretty big leap from Bill Gate's, aliens, and bigfoot. Not a big deal non the less because we are infact going to get the update.

So with that said..... Anyone actually get the 2.2 update pushed to them yet?
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
he was talking about the behold 2.......

l2read.

thx
[Vibrant General] spiz516:
Is there a tutorial posted somewhere on how to pull the OTA in case someone gets it and wants to share with everyone?
[Vibrant General] Charpie:
I'm getting something via KIES right now