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[Vibrant General] remixfa:
wow. u failed reading comp huh? my original post said that vibrant owners have a right be angry because they were promised from the start by samsung (who gives a darn what cust service says, they are idiots) that it was going to get 2.2 really soon. but people dont have a right to be angry unless they were promised something by the Manufacturer.. not by cust service or some sales rep. GalaxyS 2.2 is the only mfctr promised update of any phone im aware of that was used as a selling tool.

i was then responding to the behold2 2.x upgrade misunderstanding, stating that there was never a promised 2.x upgrade. notice the word "behold2" in my comment... not vibrant. lol.

And i hate to tell ya, but even as a rep with "insider" info, we generally find out stuff the same way everyone else does.. through sites like BGR, phone arena, android central, ect. very rarely do we have information that wasnt already leaked to the public. It was the same when i worked at VZW, and its generally the same at every other cell company. If a rep tells you a "secret" bit of information that u cant find on a phone site.. its probably not true.

also, just about every peice of electronics you buy is already outdated when u buy it. why do you expect your phone should be any different. buy what is good for u when u buy it and dont go crazy over trying to keep up with the curve.. because u cant unless ur a billionaire.
[Vibrant General] Bl4ckpheniX:
I just used Odin to get back to stock, then ran Kies mini to apply the JI6 update. It was painless and I am back to stock. Ready for the push.. But still haven't heard if anyone is receiving it yet.
[Vibrant General] cashyftw:
I don't believe there's an update coming today.

-speed demon
[Vibrant General] jdanisevich:
I will have to find where I read specifically about the Hummingbird optimizations, I wouldn't take it to heart if it wasn't a reliable source though. However, I do have this excerpt from an email conversation I had with sombionix while he was working on Nero v4:

"Thanks for the reports, it really does help. The nexus s is pretty sweet, so far we've gotten the quads up to 3800 which is pretty impressive. However, because the hardware in the Vibrant is almost identical, there's no reason we can't get it that high on the Vibrant as well. The main reason the nexus is fast is due to 2.3 which actually utilizes hardware acceleration over software acceleration which we are currently using on the Vibrant. I believe they also made some optimizations to JIT as well which is helping. Nero 4 is in progress as we speak. Hopefully I'll have something out by tomorrow."

I'm not pulling this stuff out of my butt, and I certainly understand the concept of RFS vs. EXT. 2.3 is probably going to be the biggest jump this hardware will receive.

On a side note I'm going to see if I can get this thread moved to general today.
[Vibrant General] moonfire711:
I see you are still just trolling along.
[Vibrant General] megatherian:
They said Jan. 21st - just not which YEAR.

Have fun waiting 'til 2012 suckers! :P
[Vibrant General] Bl4ckpheniX:
LOL, you are right about the behold2 ( i still had crust in my eye's I guess ;), but as far as electronics being outdated as soon as you buy them, you are only some what right. I would never expect Samsung to put a new processor chip or any hardware in my phone if a better one came out the follow month, but something as simple as a software update is a whole other thing. Especially when there where so many malfunctions caused by 2.1 that could be fixed by a update. It sure is a good thing that we have better Dev's here than Sammy has.
[Vibrant General] synaesthetic:
Good news (read it on my RSS feeds this morning), but I'm not doing anything just yet. Stock OTA I could care less about; Axura 2.2.6 works just fine.

When the source code is released, that's when I'll be happy.

OC/UV kernels, yesplz.
[Vibrant General] spiz516:
The only reason I'm looking forward to this release is the WiFi calling app. I know people hated the one from the leaks, but my entertainment room and office is in the basement, and I desperately need it in order to have service down there.

Hopefully the devs will start incorporating it into the roms... assuming it works better than before.
[Vibrant General] KeithRVA:
Soooo...no ota dump file yet? Don't flame, just want to see this bugger before flashing back to nero5.
[Vibrant General] remixfa:
thanks for the info Jans. Ill have to go research the hardware ops a little more. i dont have the programming knowledge to lend a hand on that area, but i do like knowing exactly what its capable of.

i learned my lesson with the Cliq. I will never buy another overly locked down android phone. if it wasnt for Handler's roms, i would have thrown it through a window. i bought the vibrant knowing that it was easly rooted so the community could have fun with it. samsung has always had poor update service, but the hardware is just too nice to pass up for the galaxyS.

dont get me wrong, i totally agree on the updates thing, but as consumers we dont have a right to expect upgrades unless the manufacturer promises them to us. Bug fixes are a totally seperate subject. i expect those! :) people want the new software OS handed to them simply because its new, even if they dont know what the differences is.

Would microsoft or apple give away their new OS to current customers? no. Well phone manufacturers are in the phone business. why would u upgrade your phone if u keep getting the newest OS updates? It wasnt until android that this was such a loud consumer issue. people may think its crappy, but sammy, htc, and the rest are in it to sell phones. none of them are "great" across the board with updates... they all kind of suck.
[Vibrant General] lexluthor:
Will the update be KA6 or something else?

Who's taking odds?
[Vibrant General] allthrottle:
I don't think it will be 100% identical to the current ka6, but it'll probably be pretty close. I don't use wifi calling, but might start if it's included and works well. I don't really have any signal issues though.

Sent from my <tw> powered vibrant.
[Vibrant General] xjk101:
I am betting that it's KA5.
[Vibrant General] remixfa:
im betting that it doesnt happen.. lol.
[Vibrant General] mac642:
KA6 from KIES mini

Just connected to KIES mini and it started to update to KA6!
[Vibrant General] dezvous:
All of this stuff about bad battery life on custom roms is not universal. For instance my phone lasts noticeably longer on Nero compared to stock. We're talking about 5 more hours than usual. This is enough to ensure my phone doesn't even get close to dying after a day of use. In fact, my phone had lasted two straight days before. Never would have happened on stock for me.

Not saying other people aren't having issues with battery life, just saying there definitely seems to be no consistency and I would strike that down to all of our different usage habbits, app preferences etc.

Still, hooray for official froyo.
[Vibrant General] Midgen:
My money is on KA7
[Vibrant General] mac642:
Its KA6, I just got it from KIES
[Vibrant General] mulcahyd:
Did the official 2.2 vibrant update appear on kies?
[General Questions and Answers] Crazyvoda:
hello everyone

i'm not sure if i'm posting in the right place .. sorry if i'm not

i messed with my vodafone 845, upgraded it with the wrong upgrade and now i can't upgrade it back anymore

keep getting " upgrade failed " after the unpacking proccess

i reformatted my sd card, downloaded the update file again, tried normal and force upgrade, nothing worked

the original update file which worked fine called V845 V100R001C02B227 (Vodafone Egypt)

can anyone help me out ?

thank you
[General Questions and Answers] Crazyvoda:
anyone ???
[General Questions and Answers] sameh_sd:
hello i can help you

here is follow me :-

1- Copy the dload folder to SD card, after copying, the directory is

dload/UPDATA.APP

2- Enter upgrade mode by turning your device on while holding down 'volume up' and 'End call' (red) then powering on your device.

Note: The upgrade screen appear

3- In “Upgrade” tip screen Press “Upgrade” button;

4-You can see process bar start

5- it will take about 2 minutes

6- you can send me if you face any problem
[General Questions and Answers] Crazyvoda:
that's what i've been doing ... never worked

thanks for trying to help
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Paulopax:
Yes, it's really official , my battery life is draining like hell... I actually hope that's a battery problem or a rom problem so i could fix it cheaply, but if it is about the phone , i'm messed up .

so here it goes, i've got that htc hero i've bought from a friend so im not entirely sure if the battery is well, at least it was when it came on my hands. I had the official rom, and i cant be sure how many time did it spend without charging because i did change immediately the ROM . Now i have froydvillain 1.7.2 installed and i can say that i putted my phone on charge before i went to bed, when i woke up there was 15% gone from the battery, not so bad, i guess.. the worse became after. i did the usually stuff with it, texting, one or two calls not so much, always not using wi-fi, bluetooth or anything like that at all. not listening to music... when i arrived home there was been 16 h and 20 min and the battery was totally off. when i checked up which program was affecting battery most, and it was the screen and it was taxed as 51% of utilisation, i dont know why , there was just 1 h and 30 min of using it, and i can say the my brightness settings are automatic. Im really getting crazy, i also turned of 3g, only using 2g now to save battery, what a mess here guys. any help ?????

Model - HTC Hero

Android Version - 2.2.1

Radio - 63.18.55.06PU_6.35.15.14

Kernel - 2.6.29.6-flykernel-12a

ROM - FroydVillain 1.7.2
[Hero, G2 Touch General] QuAn64m:
I have installed elelinux 6.2.0 wifi always on if not connected to 3g.screen at 8% !no bluetooth,no gps...just 2 calls,whattsapp texting and surfing during the day.100% at 8 am 50% at least in the evening.try this.as far as i know there is no memory effect with these batteries.

Try my settings or delete apps that work in the background.

Hope this helps
[Hero, G2 Touch General] 9unk:
Battery Calibration

Hi there,

I have 1.7.2 also and I get approx 2 days of battery life before it hits 15%. Light usage though. My display usage always seems to be approx 30-50% overall so don't worry about that just yet.

What i think you need to do is calibrate the battery.

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=Battery_Calibration

Do that and once you are on full charge, before you turn on your phone boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.

Should be all good :).

Also are you running any overclock? 352-576 is more than okay and should help with battery life... Most people run it on smartass but I get screen wake-up issues with it so run it on-demand.

Give that a go then if that doesn't work come back and ask some of the smarter people for some advice as thats about all i know about battery issues.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Paulopax:
i had setcpu installed with some settings, i already uninstalled it, i believe the settings were switched off , thats what i hope..

anyway , my battery is fully charged in 2 hours, is it normal ? it could be cracked, perfectly normal i guess. sometimes when im connected to wi-fi , it starts decreasing the battery level and i watch it lol, 71 , 70 , 69.... thats really strange in due that i see people using 2 days or 3 with normal usage. i believe that's nothing about the rom, im going to do that , im going to calibrate and wipe, text u as soon as possible to tell u the results
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Paulopax:
9unk, should i use the setcpu with those setting to save battery, im order to obligate te phone to use those settings, or should i just let it default ?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] 4thfloorcaveman:
How did this survive in /dev

Also check any background processes.

My hero sometimes just drains like hell untill restart it (as I haven't found out which app yet) .
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Paulopax:
i believe there are no background apps , but if there is , how could i close it ?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Fysi:
Try calibrating your battery. VillainRom have a guide on it in their guides section.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] dikabuzz9447:
i just want to note something, here you say you are fully charge in 2 hours, thats strange, mine are 4-5hours charge before its full.

in my experience with all is ON, i got 14 hours of battery life, this what i turn on:

- 3G Data is always on, no time schedule, it on all the time.

- Mail (3 account) and Gmail (1 account), (always on, with 15mnt refresh freq)

- Gtalk and Yahoo messenger (always on, cant live w/o it)

- LauncherPro Friends Widget (Facebook and Twitter, always on, with 15mnt refresh freq)

- Weather with Fancy Widget (always on, with 1hour refresh freq)

- Battery Widget

- Game NFS Shift 3D (15mnt a day, is a must, very love the game)

- Browsing (average 2 hours a day)

- and other normal process and background process (network location, contact sync, etc)

can you describe what is you use in your phone and please detail how much hours you get with your hero??
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Ampicillin:
Mine was also draining like a hell , but i let it switch off for one day and now it works great . try that might it will help you :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] UltraBoykj:
I had similar problems. Very frustrating indeed, but easily corrected.

Calibrate your battery using the above thread. Usually this takes a while, but sounds like it will be quick for you. Follow it closely and carefully.

Install setcpu and start with a conservative governor at 576/176. That alone should give you a day between charges. Play with these settings until you find something you're comfortable with.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Paulopax:
about the screen, i have 5 screens, one has the calendar with my schedule dates, other has youtube and music app, the main one has beautiful widgets that only update 3 in 3 hours, the other has people widget and last one has just power control widget. I believe this is not too much, for instance i already calibrated my battery and look at my stats today :

Activity time : around 17h

apps tha use battery most :

display 41% (45m e 25s);

inactivity of the phone 18% ( 15h e 30 min )

inactived phone 16% (14h e 44 min )

Media Server 11% (14min e 53 s)

the best of this is when im texting there is nothing about the battery when i start to listen to music i can watch my battery drainly constantly, like 59,58,57 per minute sensivily. is there anyway that my battery is cracked or something ? or is just my settings ? i believe i have set all up to save power, i also set up my screen to minimum stats. another thing that i might let clear is that my phone really charges all up from 0 to 100 in 2 hours, really strange that sometime it stucks on 77 for instance other times is draining and draining and it kills me watching other people using 2 days battery with more apps than me
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Paulopax:
i dont know if this is important or not , my battery drains 6 % on rebooting , dont know if it is normal or not, but im totally sure , aint normal to got all the battery drain in 17 hours with normal using... please i appreciate any kind of help
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ExMM:
If you had calibrated your battery, and if you already had uninstalled all the apps that drain your battery quickly, but still no improvements, I suggest you to try the following things:

_ Change rom (I had a lot of problems too with battery life on FroydVillain, I personally recommend Elelinux 6.2 RC, I got an amazing battery life)

_ Make sure you have Update your Radio to the latest version:

http://www.villainrom.co.uk/forum/s...adio-Roms-Download-Links&highlight=hero+radio

_ Try different Kernels, if you are currently overclocking your Phone, I use flykernel 12a, but the 11c is excellent as well for battery life

_ Use sometimes, not set it automatically, some task killer like Advanced task Killer Froyo from the market, to kill sometimes too many running apps.

Make sure to flash the new rom when your battery is full, then recalibrate it again like other suggest you already on this thread.

I personally notice that, when you calibrate your battery, takes a week or more to see improvements on the battery life, so be patient!

Its good as well to restart your new rom fews times to reach the full potential...

Then, when you set up your rom for the first time DISABLE google backup, I've been told that drains battery like hell, don't set the brightness on automatic mode, but just leave it as less as you can, it will helps.

It would be better also to go to setting, under sync, and leave on the automatic sync mode only for the apps that you really need to run..

If none of this will work, if you have can, I would think to buy a new battery, I checked in an official HTC store once and I found it at 30 pounds...

I don't think I have anymore suggestions, I hope it will help you... :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ExMM:
To close an app or clear cache or data go to:

settings>applications>manage applications>running>

and choose the apps you want to close..
[Hero, G2 Touch General] dully79:
I found a major battery killer is an area with no reception.

So if I know I'll be there a while, I'll put my phone on airplane mode to stop it constantly scanning for a signal.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Paulopax:
Today i really noticed something strange about battery, i let it charge when it was off. Ive turnee it on, browsed over the internet and it was stuck at 100 % for 30 minutes, than it decreased for 96 in 5 min..

i went to sleep ( turned wifi off ) 6 hours later it was in 77 % ;( and the best part, i reboot it and it get in 51 someone got a help :(
[Hero, G2 Touch General] swatsbiz:
That sounds about normal for most ROMs I've used :-)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] everest.deth:
Ok so i am currently running this froyo ROM (see screnshot for the image on ROM and kernel version)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19146514/Link to snap20110120_124531.png

SO...it was all going fine until now my market will not connect :confused: :confused: :confused: (see screenshot for error message) ..i tried clearing the market app data from manage application but it stil will not connect.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19146514/Link to snap20110120_124018.png

I was wondering if maybe i could try getting a different market.apk, and i wonder if that would actually have any positive impact...well.. i tired a different market .apk (an old copy i had left...) still same error...

any help is greatly appreciated. :D
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mengbo:
i do not think stock rom is 2.2, it should be 2.1-update1 ... :-)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] everest.deth:
Im gonna guess you have a point lol, any ideas though? :D

Sent from my rooted glacier running CM7 and grankin's oc kernel :D
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tkienzle:
I had the same problem it fixed its self...
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] everest.deth:
Yeah..apparently my market got updated :confused: :confused: now it works...

Sent from my rooted glacier running CM7 and grankin's oc kernel :D
[Fascinate General] keyboardguy:
According to engadget the Vibrant's getting Froyo tomorrow. Maybe this means we'll get it too?
[Fascinate General] sageDieu:
No... for one that is T-Mobile which is completely unrelated to Verizon. The Vibrant is a different phone requiring a different ROM.

If they were releasing it for more phones than the Vibrant they definitely wouldn't keep quiet about it.
[Fascinate General] Falcyn:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/20/samsung-vibrant-will-get-froyo-tomorrow-says-t-mobile-cmo/

It definitely doesn't mean or even suggest we'll get it tomorrow, since each carrier is ultimately responsible for releasing the update. But it certainly bodes well for a release that could be sooner rather than later.
[Fascinate General] prometheus1010:
Seems like all the bad press is starting to get to Samsung. Also a report that the Mesmerize will get froyo in early feb, which should at least get the devs a proper froyo kernel to use rather than hacked up eclair kernels.
[Fascinate General] Jrex:
It's not the fascinate, but if it happens it can only be good news for us!
[Fascinate General] keyboardguy:
I'm hoping that T-Mobile's release will move Verizon to get off its ass and give us Froyo.
[Fascinate General] Smeed:
All it took was a class action lawsuit. Lets get this ball rolling.
[Fascinate General] iTz Nicholas72:
T-Mobile>Verizon
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
I don't think so. Pretty sure that the poster who claimed to start the lawsuit lied. I could be wrong of course.
[Fascinate General] claudieous:
From Sprints twitter feed.

Epic 4G users: Froyo is still in the works. We’re working closely with @SamsungMobileUS to ensure the best possible customer experience.

Sprint & Samsung are working to release Froyo for Epic ASAP, but only after it meets rigorous testing criteria to ensure quality experience.

Now just waiting to hear from VZW about Froyo.
[Fascinate General] Tkun:
Hasn't it always been coming asap? That doesn't really prove anything, and Sprint only said that to avoid any negative rep for T-Mobile beating them to the punch.
[Fascinate General] claudieous:
no doubt it has... just pointing out that it seems like the others might be starting to come out of their shells again
[Fascinate General] dcpetterson:
Hey guys I own a vibrant and I'm just here to give encouragement. You have to get mad. Get involved. Make your voice heard. We did it over in the vibrant section, start a twitter feed, spam the hell out of verizon. Apply pressure. We we're lucky to have leaked froyo builds for months, it doesn't seem like you are so lucky. Good luck GS bros!
[Fascinate General] Daswolven:
My head hurts.

From slamming it into my desk.

Someone make it stop, please?
[Fascinate General] Floormatt:
Would it be the wrong time to mention the vibrant had froyo leaks for months before this supposed not yet here date? If fascinate follows that timeline, I wouldn't expect OTA froyo before mid-summer at the earliest. Forget OEM, donate to the devs that actually care how the phone works.
[Fascinate General] GoogleAndroid:
It seems TMO/Samsung cracked under the pressure. But knowing VZ, we still won't officially have it for awhile.
[Fascinate General] lbmorgan:
Based on the reply I got from Samsung I think this could mean Verizon will get Froyo soon. The Samsung rep said they were testing for instability on all the U.S. Galaxy S phones and once they can confirm it is stable they will start rolling it out to the carriers.

Dear Mr. ******,

Thank you for your inquiry. We do apologize for the inconvenience. Samsung feels it is important to make an the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available only after we feel that we can give the million of U.S. Galaxy S owners a simple and reliable upgrade experience. Due to the complexity and unique functionality of each Galaxy S device, we are performing additional testing ang working to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available to all Galaxy S owners as soon as possible.

Thank you for your continued interest in Samsung products.

Sincerely,

Technical Support

C***s
[Fascinate General] bendbowden:
Standard reply. This tells us nothing (not criticizing you, but Samsung). Never again!

Sent from my Vanilla Froyo Fascinate
[Fascinate General] steeeler:
Make it stop...... my stomach hurting from laughing so hard!
[Fascinate General] onemotodroid:
Verizon is to busy moving it focus from android to the iPhone. Under current landscape SF is small potatos.
[Fascinate General] Daswolven:
I actually gouged out one of my eyes a few minutes ago. I am torn between suffering complete blindness for the ready of my life, or reading one more meaningless, nonsensical, irrelevant post in this thread, or the other 30 just like it.

I don't want to keep coming back, but I can't help it.

This... This is damnation.
[Fascinate General] lbmorgan:
All I am saying is .. If they got it right on the Vibrant they can get right on the Fascinate .. The real delima now is does Vzw even give a **** now that they bought a barge full of iPuds .. fml