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[myTouch 4G General] cu_ninja:
I've had both but ultimately chose the MyTouch because having 4g speeds made a huge difference in the entire experience. On the NS I was always having to run wifi. Also the NS just never felt complete. Running CM7 makes the MT4g a complete phone.
[myTouch 4G General] charnsingh_online:
Dont, Nexus S isnt really a that good of phone plus u have gingerbread etc and Nexus S is samsung made. Cheap quality. MT4g kicks its ass in CPU and Some GPU stuff ( shader performance and more) so i say keep it
[myTouch 4G General] 215aphilliate:
If you have 2.3 on your mt4g there is no point. That's the only thing the nexus s has over mt4g out of the box. Plus the mt4g has 4g and HTC is better than Samsung by a long shot...
[myTouch 4G General] gabrialxue:
Thanks for the replies guys, I'm currently talking with a Guy about trading mytouches, hopefully he has a good screen
[myTouch 4G General] osugsxr:
check it out when you buy it, install the terminal emulator and run the dmesg or something like that
[myTouch 4G General] STHNS:
osugsxr the OP is aware of the bad display that is why he is here lol this is another reason I don't trust CL or eBay or anything with first batch of products with issues.
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
Have you tried to warranty the MT4G through T-mobile? The phone is new enough they might let you.
[myTouch 4G General] going_home:
I had a Nexus S for 7 disappointing days before I returned it to Best Buy.

Same day bought a MyTouch 4G on Craigslist.

I am not fond of the crapware on the phone but its a better phone.

Interesting that neither Google or Best Buy have announced the number

of Nexus S's sold.

I'm thinking its a disappointing number.

Lots of them have been returned.

Its Samsung.

If HTC or any number of newcomers had been chosen for the next Nexus,

I think the results would have been different.

:o
[myTouch 4G General] STHNS:
going_home LOL

What I don't understand is why Google picked Samsung, I guess the team that is looking at oversight of this project clearly didn't google Samsung user reviews. Ohh well makes no diff Nexus One was made by HTC yet it had no support. Google should just stick to doing what it does best which is creating EchoSystems for other to build on. They are getting greedy an starting to mingle in other peoples affairs.

Makes no diff MT4G is #1 and DHD is #2 and the whole Nexus liveup well IDK why people would pick them when there are more superior device from same carrier lineups.
[myTouch 4G General] gabrialxue:
What is the best way to determine the screen type without rooting the phone?
[myTouch 4G General] STHNS:
Well you can always use THE eye lol if you don't want to take chances then go download Terminal Emulator and type in "dmesg" and hit enter. You will get large postscript output look for "panel type = #" now where you see # it can be value 1(bad) or 2(good).
[myTouch 4G General] dani26286:
me, when it comes to android i used to trust only htc, then motorola came along, and now lg cuz of the dual cpu thing. other than these 3, i dont trust anyone. imo they are the only ones that give solid builds, of course you get your ocassional hickup from each of them, but samsung, just shouldnt be alowed to make anything else but tv' s. lol!
[myTouch 4G General] c_licious:
I had two MT4G's for a total of 45 days before I bought the Nexus S. I too was really reluctant because it was my first Samsung phone. Only had HTC before (G1, N1, G2, MT4G). I have to say I'm really happy with the N2 and never had any of the problems some people here quote. I find the screen and loudspeaker definitely superior. It also runs snappier (although cyanogen nightlies might have fixed that) and already gets quadrant scores of over 4000 with morfics new 1.5 kernel for cyanogen 7. The hummingbird processor is quite the beast.

Haven't used the NFC chip much except just the other night we went out to dinner with a few friends and the restaurant had one of those google places chips in the window. I loved their faces when everyone was like hey what's that and I pulled out my phone, bumped it against the sign and immediately had the whole menu pulled up lol. I'm starting to see more of those around downtown.

Biggest loss was HSPA+ or so I thought. Honestly though I get pretty comparative speeds must of the time and have yet to NOTICE a difference (i don't tether). I'm in Seattle which is supposed to have good "4g" coverage?!

I would definitely try both, as both are really nice phones. If the screen and loudspeaker are important to you as well as getting software updates first, you might actually decide to keep the N2...
[myTouch 4G General] greenstuffs:
Yeah 4k in quadrant and the phone still can't scroll webpages smoothly like the MT4 does. :o
[myTouch 4G General] rjhay22:
I'll keep it real... Based on the description you just gave us, extra cash, bad screen, and a little beat up... I would trade :P

I hate Samsung, but I've seen the Nexus S and played with and it isnt as bad as the Vibrant, It will have more dev support. And it doesnt have a bad display... That being said, I wouldnt trade my MT4G for it, since mine is in perfect condition with great screen.
[myTouch 4G General] c_licious:
Are you commenting on the webpage rendering on stock? Cause on 1.5 the browser flies like crazy. Don't mean to start a bickering war, I really enjoyed the MT4G. I just personally like the N2 better and haven't had any of the problems some people point out about Samsung or the device itself.
[myTouch 4G General] osugsxr:
Tempted to jump over to the nexus s from the mytouch 4g just for fun really. I liked the vibrant for the most part, screen was nice. As for the hspa+ I dont currently have it on my local carrier and I probably wont be switching to tmobile anytime soon.
[myTouch 4G General] greenstuffs:
I guess to my uncientific observation, the flying experience on the Nexus S can be comparable to the stock experience on the MT4. But is a bit of a weak sauce argument having to resort to oc the google flagship phone just to compare to another phone thats been released on an earlier date.
[myTouch 4G General] c_licious:
LOL, see that's exactly the problem with asking questions in a device forum. You'll always get an overall biased opinion ;) Would be the same in the Nexus S forum just reverted. You'd be hearing all about genius button lag, dust under screen issues, bad screen/good screen drama, squeeky bottom complains, sense haters, NFC lovers, SAMOLED lovers, early update lovers, whole lot of opinions on tactile feedback buttons vs physical plastic buttons, design opinions, etc.

I would seriously just check it out yourself and see which one you like better. In the end, both are gonna be outdated soon enough :D
[myTouch 4G General] lalab0y:
tested out the nexus for a few days

interesting thing is i did a couple of speedtest and its constantly giving me 4mbps avg...compared to 2-4 mbps on the mt4g..

even with all the "doesnt support hspa+" commotion, does the nexus s has a better radio or something?
[myTouch 4G General] STHNS:
You might want to check your own forum I post there all the time and trust me they agree. MT4G with NS is not even comparison.

QC: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=924942

For one this would be good place to start and if you need more I can send you 50+ links lol if we had a duel vs the phone I would take your NS as prize after I beat it. Care to wage it? NS vs MT4G im in FL.

Thats alot of factor in this at any given time you can't compare that.
[myTouch 4G General] greenstuffs:
Well if you need to start throwing hardware flaws, then the first thing that comes to my mind is the nexus s's oleophobic coating on the screen, that crap wears off after a few weeks of use ;)
[myTouch 4G General] c_licious:
Yea, seems to be a common flaw even for the MT4G. It's oleophobic coating was so evanescent, by the time I opened the box it was completely nonexistent ;)

Crap, just noticed my ffc is off center. And here I was hailing and praising the NS. Maybe its time to switch back after all :D /sarcasm
[myTouch 4G General] BeEazy10:
Only thing I dont like about the mytouch is the screen. Specs are nice but the screen is whatever
[myTouch 4G General] osugsxr:
could trade mytouch 4g plus $75 for a nexus s.....read through the forum and watched a few videos and still undecided on it. I think I just cant pull myself to trade the mytouch 4g when I have a good screen and have had this phone for over a month or so. Local carrier doesn't have 4g services yet but will eventually come out this year, going to hopefully wait for a newer device. Wouldnt mind trading for a vibrant 4g possibly.

edit....seller with throw in a blackberry pearl ....LOL
[myTouch 4G General] epsix:
NS GB 2.3 currently has only AOSP rom and CM7, No Sense rom HD, Z, MySense, Miui. But its your choice good luck.
[myTouch 4G General] osugsxr:
Yes, I'm aware of what roms are out for development and its very few. I typically use CM7, not really a fan of sense for the most part. Like adw launcher and stock launcher, for what I paid for the mytouch 4g $250, isnt bad.

I'm trading mytouch 4g plus $50 for a blackberry pearl and the nexus s
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
DON'T DO IT! In my opinion the MT4G is by far the superior device. What are you really getting from the Nexus S that the MT4G can't offer you? Especially now that we have CM7 nightlies...

After reading up for hours and hours on how to root my gf's Captivate I am seriously disappointed with Samsung and all of their issues with Android phones. Why the **** they don't use a standard SPL like everybody else is beyond me...
[myTouch 4G General] osugsxr:
Well I went ahead and traded it, phone isn't that bad. Rooted it within the first 15 minutes to put cm7 on it. Overall I do like the phone, build quality isn't as bad as I thought it was, phone is nice looking. The quality of the mytouch 4g is better though.

Screen is nice as usual, speed and using the phone is solid. I do miss the home buttons though. Rooting the phone was simple, didnt have to unlock bootloader. Overall its okay, mainly wanted to try it out for awhile and see if I'll like it. Only paid $300 for it so I guess I can't complain. I was wanting to get a HD2 to play with for windows 7 and android, so I may end up selling the nexus s. Probably wait till a month or so till new phones come out to sell
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
True. Should be really easy to trade back to a MT4G if you decide you want to. I almost returned my MT4G for the Nexus S or G2 just to get stock Android. Once CM6 came out for this phone I haven't looked back.
[myTouch 4G General] lychris85:
Glad you are happy with your trade. I was deciding between the 2. I signed a new contract. Deal was 200 for NS on release date or 80 for MT4G, I decided to get MT and spend the extra 100 on other stuff. I like my phone so far. Hope you enjoy the NS and Pearl.
[myTouch 4G General] mikejet:
out of all the phones i played with before purchasing the mytouch 4g, this is the one that felt solid like a real device.

everything else felt plasticy and like a toy
[myTouch 4G General] mingkee:
I have both and I think both are great.

NS is good as a phone (decent call quality and loud speakerphone), and the screen is fantastic.

MT4 can accept 32GB memory card and be able to play .wmv video, but speakerphone sucks (I have a unit with NO defect)!
[myTouch 4G General] osugsxr:
I'm back!!! Had the nexus s for alittle over a week not really sure :p Anyways the device is SOLID build great feel to it not a cheap plasticy feel like most people say. Just didn't care for it at all though :mad:

Pros:

Screen screen screen what else can you say about it! its just very nice

stock gingy.... rooted to cm7 though

speaker quality! wow very nice

screen size

size of device just right

Odin....basically unbrickable

Cons...

battery life....damn it sucked! barely could get me through the day

no SD card :mad: just hated the internal

plastic feel was slippery at times

too worried about dropping device

home row buttons BLAH....

Well I'm back! ended up trading the nexus s for a white mytouch 4g plus $200. Only phone and charger though :( and I did confirm before buying it was a panel 1... ( i know panel 2 is good) But for the $$$ and the mytouch 4g I cant complain. Installed my nandroid back on the sd card and back to my cm7 build 26 or so.

plus i received a free rom manager license
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
Glad you're back. Call T-mobile and exchange it under warranty for a type 2 panel.
[myTouch 4G General] osugsxr:
Hmmm... only thing is I'm not with tmobile though. Could I go through HTC, or tmobile some how?
[myTouch 4G General] :
You can go through HTC should have a one year warranty
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
You'll probably have to send it in and wait until they send it back. You'll also need to unroot first as I'm pretty sure that rooting voids your warranty.

What carrier are you using? I've always wondered what other carriers are compatible.
[myTouch 4G General] excarnate:
Why? I keep hearing people say that rooting a phone affects the warranty; at least you say "pretty sure". But it makes no sense to me. I've looked at the warranty (for the US) and it covers the hardware. It doesn't say boo about software.

I'm pretty sure :-) that they don't care about the phone being rooted. If they check the phone out (I'd hope they would) they'd likely blast (overwrite) the firmware as part of testing and reload all the software to factory fresh (if they found it to be OK).

All 3 that I sent in (3 bad screens, one of them with other issues) were rooted. I've heard no complaints from T-Mobile (I only got excellent service).
[myTouch 4G General] i n f a m o u s:
I've been told by some of the members here that the warranty does not carry over on to the next owner (for HTC), however from my own experience I can say that is false.

I purchased an HTC HD2 from Craigslist and sent it in for a faulty digitizer and they accepted it. I had to use my backup phone since they had to inspect it and replace the defective part.

Just be sure to have a backup phone in handy if you do decide to call HTC.
[myTouch 4G General] osugsxr:
Don't think I need to unroot it, will probably call and have it replaced. Warranty usually switched over.

I just sent a hd2 in, so I may wait a few days for that . As for carrier its a local carrier who uses tmobile bands and att. I do get 3g services as well, up to 4mbps, they will apparently come out with 4g, unlimited text and data $14.99
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
Nice, what carrier? I've been thinking about doing something similar.
[myTouch 4G General] osugsxr:
Cincinnati bell
[myTouch 4G General] :
Bell good been thinking about moving to Toronto and Rogers wasn't compatible so bell is good I wont have to buy a new phone
[myTouch 4G General] osugsxr:
made the called to have the screen replaced.....

Have an offer of $350 for the mytouch 4g, plus hard case, plus cord & wall charger.... screen as is

found a nexus one in excellent condition for $175... very tempted to switch back to the nexus one. Mainly b/c I don't use the front facing camera, NO 4g services, thats pretty much it I guess.

Do I stay or go.......... probably will either buy the new vibrant 4g unlocked, or another HTC tmobile phone...pyramid??
[myTouch 4G General] gabrialxue:
Sorry I haven't been able to post here in awhile, been busy.

Glad to see the thread is helping other people.

As for my own situation I decided to keep the myTouch bad screen and all. It's been a great phone and I don't have any regrets

As a sidebar, I recently bought a Dell Venue pro....and I gotta say....it trumps the myTouch in the hardware department (Other then the non expandable memory that is). I'm even considering switching over to T-mobile so I can use the DVP as my main phone and keep the myTouch for experimenting.
[myTouch 4G General] [hfm]:
This is what I'm waiting for. Hopefully it turns out to be a good option.
[myTouch 4G General] KeithRVA:
My Nexus S is rock solid, and in real world usage its the best phone I've ever owned. I've had a g2, droid inc, droid 2, hd2, iphone 3gs, and a vibrant. I'm a Samsung fanboy I guess, because I loved the vibrant a lot too. Samoled, strong radio, and excellent external speaker are what I enjoy most about the Nexus. I don't dislike htc products, but I don't think they are the best android experience you can get right now. Just my $.02
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] daniel60104:
Hey guys!

Just thought this would be handy for anybody with higher-class SD cards.

Keep in mind that I did NOT create the data2ext script, and BlaY0 from Legend forum was the one who came up with it in his roms, so kudos to him for making it :)

NOTE: a2ext and data2ext, choose ONE. You cannot run them together.

What is data2ext?

Similar to a2ext, where data/app were stored inside your ext partition of the SD card, data2ext stores the whole /data inside your ext partition.

What does that mean?

That means your internal storage will barely be used, and because nowadays higher-class SD cards runs faster than your internal memory, your phone will be able to crank out some insane benchmarks.

Requirements?

1. A good sd card with ext2/ext3 partition. suggested with at least 512MB of it (but not over 2GB, otherwise trouble will arise)

2. For now I think this will only work on the CM7 nightlies. I'll make one for CM6 if it is ever needed.

Instructions?

1. Flash it

2. Make your ext2 block size 4kb (done so by doing adb shell mke2fs -m0 -b4096 /dev/block/mmcblk0p2)

3. Go to your terminal emulator/adb shell to type data2ext --enable

4. Reboot

5. Wait some time. Files will be copied over, so the reboot will be slow.

6. Go check your storage and see how much you got :P

Since I was unable to run quadrant from cm7, here's the bench results done w/ 3rdsense:

I bare no responsibility for your phone breaking if you do decide to do this and something went wrong!

Enjoy.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] dbzfanatic:
Ha, nice. I was waiting for something like this. Now I have a new ROM, new kernel, and new extension to play with. Gonna be a fun night. Thanks ^_^
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Linnel:
O.o I must say, this was the thing I was waiting for the first time I rooted my phone so long ago.

I thank you good sir, assuming this works
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] dbzfanatic:
It works just fine, I scored a 1641 on CM7 with miguel's new kernel OCed at 864.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] SKAm69:
Can't enable data2ext. Although I type just like it wants.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] dbzfanatic:
What's the exact error it gives you?
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] purple1:
Can I use an 8gig memory card?
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] daniel60104:
What matters is your sd card class, and the ext partition.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] JDV28:
if i have s-off (if its needed) how can I put that command into terminal emulator??
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] dbzfanatic:
You type it? you open terminal emulator and type it in?
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] JDV28:
haha alright didnt know if it would be same command. Im very tired, dont laugh :)

didnt work in terminal emu. "/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 is apparently in use by the system, will not make a filesystem here!"

also: just confirming that a wipe from recov wont mess with the data on our SD's right?
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] dbzfanatic:
No it won't wipe SD data, you could try just a normal reboot, make sure nothing's using it. You could also go into recovery and enable data2ext from adb.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] JDV28:
thanks but that doesnt help me. that error prevents me from doing anything with this. also, i said i dont want to set up adb. never use it and dont have time now.

also, obviously its being used by having a2sd?
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] dbzfanatic:
Yes a2sd is the reason, disable it, enable data2ext and you'll still have a2sd since apps are stored in /data, which will be on your sdcard.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] JDV28:
wait, how do i disable a2sd?
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] dbzfanatic:
Should just be a2sd --disable or a2ext --disable, whichever you're using
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] xiuping.y:
download a wrong file

why?

i downloaded a 59k file
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] JDV28:
I use a2sd and already tried that. run the a2sd script then says command not found
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] dbzfanatic:
Then you're going to have to reflash your rom to disable a2sd
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] JDV28:
alright, thanks for all of your help with this

edit: it worked

edit2: nevermind, didnt work. the data2ext part worked, but when i rebooted and flash dtapps2sd, wouldnt go past splash... no data2ext for me.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] dbzfanatic:
You ONLY flash data2sd. Nothing else.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] JDV28:
ahh would be nice if it was mentioned somewhere....
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] bunu:
I'm guessing a class 2 isn't good enough :(
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] daniel60104:
oops. I thought that people would usually choose just one over another, not using both.

But yes, a2sd and data2ext - choose one only.

And also, to find out how to stop a2sd, you could've typed a2sd check on the terminal or shell, and they'll tell you how to move stuff back into internal memory.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] JDV28:
yea well i went back to regular a2sd. all this did was make all my apps virtually unuseable.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] SKAm69:
Can I do this without moving my apps to internal storage? I have about 40 megs left, I don't think all of my apps will fit. I'm about to flash the latest nightly#9, so can I just flash it over my app2ext addon and flash this data2ext one instead without moving apps? And can you please give the same instructions but for terminal emu not adb. My adb is screwed gives me (not found and /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!)errors all the time, and in terminal those commands didn't work.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] JDV28:
dude dbzfanatic just explained (to me in this thread) how to fix that error. read right above your post...
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] bosscolo:
I solved this problem by first typing

adb shell umount /dev/block/mmcblk0p2

then

adb shell mke2fs -m0 -b4096 /dev/block/mmcblk0p2

.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] SKAm69:
Thank you.

But after applying these changes my Slide doesn't go pass a T-mobile screen. So had to do a full wipe.

I also got not found error when trying to data2ext --enable

Update: At last I made it working. Got 1677 in Quadrant on CM7#12 with Miguel's smartass kernel 825oc.

Thank you guys!
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] OriginalDRag:
So, my A2SD works. The command in emulator was just slightly different, but very close.

I had to SU my command propmt first, I don't think that was mentioned (and I can't go back to look now I'm typing :))

Here I turned a2sd off

Then, when in emulator I tried doing it with the /adb shell before the commands and it failed, so I just removed that portion and it worked successfully.

In command typed in reboot (to simply reboot)

Go back into emu and re-enabled my a2sd

Reboot

And Ka-pow! It worked!

I was surprised honestly

Running CM7 RC0
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] kemberdog:
if i were to flash another nightly rom or reflash the same rom would i have reapply the block size or could i just have to enable data2ext
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] dbzfanatic:
So far I haven't even had to reflash data2ext, all my programs still show up and my quadrant score stays more or less the same but if you want to reflash that should be all you need to do. Every time I reflashed and typed data2ext --enable I got "data2ext already enabled".