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[EVO Shift 4G General] pwrmedia:
I've had the Shift for almost 3 weeks, and can say I've noticed significant 3g and signal reduction in the same areas I used to get decent coverage. I've also noticed the battery tends to overheat more frequently than it should. I'm going to give it another week and then see if an exchange for another Shift would be beneficial. Great phone so far otherwise.
[EVO Shift 4G General] JKILO:
Are you overclocked?
[EVO Shift 4G General] foxsdaddy67:
Ever think it may be sprint? Or solar flares? Or atmospheric interference?

sent from my EVO Shift 4G :)
[EVO Shift 4G General] pwrmedia:
Using the 1.8 kernel
[EVO Shift 4G General] JKILO:
that could be why youre over heating no? i dont know what you have it set at but too high would cause it to over heat..also people using mikrom claim that their phones overheat when charging so could be the rom
[EVO Shift 4G General] pwrmedia:
I scaled it back to 1300/786 on demand on install due to random freezes, and I'm using Warmsense. I dunno..
[EVO Shift 4G General] jesusice:
You dunno? You've got your min set at the max that it's intended to run at and you're puzzled by why your battery's getting warm?

^ Shift Faced
[EVO Shift 4G General] pwrmedia:
The "I dunno" was in reference to the decrease in 3G reception, not battery temp, but thanks for the helpful contribution to the conversation, guy. :rolleyes:
[EVO Shift 4G General] jesusice:
Yeah, not a mind reader here. Gotta depend solely on the words that were typed. And you're welcome, you really should lower your min.

^ Shift Faced
[EVO Shift 4G General] pwrmedia:
I've had it as low as 245, which is feasible on the Hero, and not so much on the Shift. Our processor can handle the increased min without much strain on the battery life (unless you're running on a "performance" profile). No lag on custom lock screen, no freeze and very responsive. YMMV..

In any event, I've decided to nand back to stock rom and run a 1.5 kernel to see if there are any differences w/ 3G signal strength. At the very least, I'm able to use the ##DATA# code to edit my settings again, something which the current ROM releases don't allow for yet (will stall on intialization).

**Update** - After restoring the stock ROM, I'm back to my usual 3G strength. Anyone experiencing poor signal on a custom ROM, I'd advise giving a restore to stock a shot. This way, we can identify that there may be an issue w/ something being altered or not in these ROMs and our devs can fix it.
[EVO Shift 4G General] JKILO:
You can use another sense rom and push EPST.apk to /systen/app to get your dialer codes working..
[EVO Shift 4G General] pwrmedia:
Good to know. Though that's a minor fix compared to the 3G tradeoff...I think I'm still going to stick w/ stock until some more development has gone into our ROMs. Thanks for that tidbit though!
[EVO Shift 4G General] cafecivet:
I've noticed that the Evo seemed to have slightly better signal. I tend to be on roaming where I used to have 1 or 2 bars.
[EVO Shift 4G General] abanh:
Just picked up the shift a few days ago. From what I noticed, signal is about the same as the EVO when I hold the phone in my left hand, but on average 6-10 dbm worse when holding it in my right hand (think iPhone death grip issue). This is holding the phone looking at the screen; I can't tell if this is the case when talking on the phone. I used Signal strength widget to get actual numbers for signal strength instead of relying on bars.
[EVO Shift 4G General] JKILO:
Left hand to right hand comparison? Lmao and I was just wondering what kind of people complain about having to wipe dalvik and why a rom can't just do it for you..now I see..but a difference is a difference..what kind of people own this phone..

Edit: not that you've complained about wiping dalvik, yet..I just saw it in multiple posts around the shift forums..
[EVO Shift 4G General] abanh:
Not a complaint, but just an observation. I naturally hold the phone with my right hand, and so because of that I noticed the signal strength wasn't as good as the EVO. Put the phone down and the signal strength was similar to the EVO, so I figured I was affecting the antenna.
[EVO Shift 4G General] grandebob:
There are grip of death spots on the device, like people have said, near the bottom. Over all I have been satisfied with the signal. I have yet to drop a call. It seems to be slightly better then my Pre was from signal strength perspective.
[EVO Shift 4G General] pengkha:
this reminds me of verizon service when i tried them out. their phones always showed full bars but i'd get dropped calls or people could hear me at all....kinda like ATT haha. i'm thinking verizon programs their radio signals to show they have service, but in reality they have just as much service as sprint lol.
[EVO Shift 4G General] crump84:
My signal has pretty good, haven't had any real issues. I have noticed a few times that my BlackBerry will have full bars and my Shift will only 3 but overall its been pretty good.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smokeyb111:
I've seen some apps and hardware out there, but I was wondering if any users here have user or are currently using their streak in a home automation/home theater setup....

would love to hear about someones setup or to get some advice on how to do it.

Thanks
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brianlp:
I have Insteon lighting all through my home that is controlled from a PC running HCA Home Automation software. My home theater is ran from a Lenovo touch netbook/tablet for media remote control, that also connects to the Insteon PC to control the lighting. The HCA software has Android software that is in Marketplace that I have loaded on my Streak, which can also control the lights, but it isn't my primary method of control.

HCA http://www.hcatech.com/ is pretty cool because once you buy the base package, you can run it as a server on a main machine, then reinstall it on as many other machines as you want in client mode, plus it supports touch screens if you want to use those in your home. I run it in client touch screen mode in my HT, and you can do that on your iPhone or Windows Mobile phones also, at no extra charge. The software is easy to modify to do custom programming. If I didn't have the 10" tablet, the Streak could take the place of it. But since it is larger, I'd rather use the tablet in my theater.

I went through many other packages before I settled on this one. I have 30 light modules in my home, and I can control any or all of them from my streak either over WiFi inside my house, or over the Internet when I'm away from the house. It also monitors my security cameras and DVR remotely.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hkbladelawhk:
So just to clarify. Booting into recovery with the STOCK recovery partition is SUPPOSED to show the Exclamation symbol? I don't get it, is recovery mode supposed to be used via a computer?

I ask, because I tried to flash clockwork mod, but it still goes to the same little exclamation mark if i reboot in recovery
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neidlinger:
1: you need to be perma-rooted with s=off.

--If s=on it will not copy the files to the correct spot and leave them them.

2a: if you are perma-rooted with s=off

-- flash Clockwork ROM recovery image twice. I know they say only once, but just do it good measures.

2b: if you are perma-rooted with s=off

--you can always find the file that you need and flash it via the fastboot.

but to answer your question the stock recovery image is just a triangle with a "! " next to it. And no you do not need a computer, you can access C/W Recovery image w/o a computer.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hkbladelawhk:
Thanks. I think I'm gonna say f-it at this point, at least till we get an official 2.3 release. Perm rooting via Visionary really did speed the phone up. So I think I'm just gonna leave it for now. Is it possible to clean up the misplaced files it likely flashed?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ElAguila:
A quick question about removing the sense widgets. I have decided to stick with the adw exe launcher. At the moment I don't want to go thru the setup involved with flashing to a no sense rom. Is it safe to uninstall the widgets using titanium backup?

Sent from this here Evo!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
Look for calkulins mods thread in the themes and apps forum, he's got a flashable script that will remove sense and all its widgets for you. It works beautifully.
[Droid Pro General] eus107709:
After a bit of work, I finally got my phone working the way I want. I basically tried to get the phone as clean as possible and removed the Motorola bloat.

- Phone no longer reboots itself.. at all.

- 20+ hours of battery is the norm, despite a good amount of use

- Very stable and responsive

Please note: I have the extended battery and use Launcher Pro. Freezing certain apps will stop the Motorola widgets, home screen, and apps from working properly.

1. Flashed the TBH SBF on to phone

2. Formatted SD card

3. Wiped the cache and partition

4. Rooted phone with z4 root

5. Installed Titanium Backup and froze apps

Apps frozen:

3G Mobile Hotspot 2.2.1

Amazon MP3

Backup Assistant 1.0

Backup Assistant 2.2.1

Battery Manager 1.1

City ID 1.0.30

com.motorola.photowidget 2.2.1

Files 2.2.1

Global Unplug 1.0

Help Center 2.2.1

InPocket 2.2.1

MediaShare 1.0.0

Messages 2.2.1

Messaging 2.2.1

News 2.2.1

NFS Shift 1.0

Print to Retail 1.0

Quick Contact 2.2.1

Skype mobile 1.0.0.2

Social Messaging 2.2.1

Social Messaging Service 2.2.1

Social Networking 2.2.1

Social Sharing 2.2.1

Social Status 2.2.1

Sticky Note 2.2.1

Sync Service 1.5.7

Task Manager 1.0

Toggle Widgets 2.2.1

Universal Inbox 2.2.1

Voice Commands

Voicemail 1.1

VZ Navigator

Weather 2.2.1

Yahoo Contacts 2.2.1

I really hate the fact this was all necessary. The original Droid was a great device, because it did not contain any bloatware. I've learned my lesson and will only buy Android devices without it, such as the Nexus series of phones. At least in the meantime, I can use a properly functioning device again.
[Droid Pro General] elmemyself:
Thanks a lot for your post mate, it is really helpful.

Were you able to update your phone to the latest version? Did you have any issues updating ?

Thanks.
[Droid Pro General] MrWilliams2:
Even though I haven't had too many problems so far, I went in and froze everything on your list. I have gotten an occasional auto-reboot, so maybe this will help.

Can you explain what this is?

1. Flashed the TBH SBF on to phone

Thanks!
[Droid Pro General] eus107709:
@elmemyself: Yes, the phone updated just fine.

@MrWilliams2: If your phone is rebooting by itself, try switching it back to Global if you currently have it set to CDMA. I never changed it to CDMA since wiping everything and I haven't had a single reboot in almost a week now.

TBH is Team Black Hat.. they are the ones that first released a valid SBF. The SBF is basically an image that will restore your phone back to it's factory settings. All of your current programs and settings will still be intact after you install the SBF because those reside in the cache and partition. You can choose to "wipe" them by booting your phone into Recovery Mode. I went this route to get my phone as clean as possible and so far it's paying off.

To get into Recovery Mode, turn off your phone. Hold 'R' and 'M' keys and turn on the phone. After the '!' comes up, press '@'. Follow the directions on screen.

One last note.. after you format SD card and wipe cache / partition, your phone is essentially factory reset. I highly recommend you turn Wifi on, if it isn't already. After entering my Google account settings, it automatically downloaded my Wifi settings and connected to my router. It then proceeded to download every app I had on my phone previously. If you aren't connected via WiFi, it will take a lot longer for your phone to re-download all those apps.

Good luck!
[Droid Pro General] StingRay_:
Thanks for this great information!

I've been holding off rooting my Pro (after using my rooted OG Droid for the past year), but will be rooting soon with the help of the info you've provided...
[Droid Pro General] hanybanoub:
A few questions

MANY thanks eus107709 for your wonderful guide! I'm sure MANY of us appreciate it and will be following it.

I have a few questions:

1) Why do we have to use the SBF at all? Why not just 'factory reset' the phone using the android/menu/settings option?

2) If we use the SBF, I hear we have to re-activate phone with Verizon. Is this true? I'm in the UK and don't have a verizon account (phone is unlocked). Will I be able to bypass activation?

3) How can I clear the micro-sd card of all my settings to start fresh? Will that also wipe any pictures and music I have on it?

4) By using this method, how (or will I) be able to upgrade the OS with future OS upgrades from Motorola and/or Verizon?

5) not directly related - as we know the phone is radio locked to verizon and unable to use with AT&T / T-Mobile in America. Is it possible to get it radio unlocked to use other bands? The reason I ask is: will I get better 'signal' / reception if I do this? I work in Central London often, where signal is top in the country, but often my 'H' radio bar only shows 2 out of 4. I expect it to be 4 being in London, or at the very least 3, but it never goes above 2 really. Could this be related to the 'locked radio'? I've seen this but can't find much info/feedback yet: see twitter and 'droidbandunlock'

Sorry for all the long-winded questions. Thanks in advance eus107709
[Droid Pro General] MNr2064:
need to z4 root

i need to z4 root

please take a link fo me
[Droid Pro General] hanybanoub:
Thanks very much for your response my friend!

I appreciate your help on all things regardless of your background and experience.

Activating vs unlocking - phone is factory and/or verizon unlocked and that is permanent. Activating is different from unlocking where we register our phone with verizon. I thought I saw someone say using sbf requires re-activation, and that they were able to bypass it somehow.

I will probably backup my pics and music etc on my PC before formatting the sd card.

Btw, do you notice the battery life increase after freezing all the unnecessary software?

Please also share any other experiences you've had since cleaning up your phone.

Thanks again my friend.
[Droid Pro General] eus107709:
You're welcome, I'm glad to help!

Updating the SBF or factory resetting your phone will surely require activation, but that is easily done. Most of the time, your phone will automatically prompt you to activate which is denoted by a "ACTIVATE NOW" button. Otherwise, just dial *228. It usually doesn't take more than 10 seconds and is completely automated.

My battery life was never horrendous, BUT it wasn't consistent. There were times when my battery would seemingly drain leaving me with only 9-10 hours of usage. Please keep in mind that no matter what you remove, battery life will still not be amazing. It's a smartphone after-all, and if you're like me who is constantly making use of it, you're not going to go 2 days without a recharge.

There is a very good chance that if you've never used the Droid 1, Nexus, or G1 you may not consider it "useless software". Personally, I like using Android the way Google designed it. When I switch Android phones, I don't want to be switching between "Blur" (motorola), "Sense" (HTC), and whatever Samsung calls their UI overlay and apps.

Right now, it's the closest I can get the phone to the way Google intended. In terms of functionality, you will not notice anything much different. I highly recommend using either Launcher Pro or ADW Launcher. IMO, both are better than the Motorola home screen launcher and even Google's default.

I hope that in between the time you're tweaking the phone you get to actually enjoy it, because it is still a great experience :)
[Droid Pro General] budwiser0240:
nice....curious tho

Thx for the post man. helped me to utilize titanium and decide on some things to freeze. now I have to go back in and choose some things to quit backing up lol. im currently looking up everything you have frozen to actually see what purpose it serves before I freeze it though. a question Im surprised hasn't been asked of ya. I wanted to ask ya about launcher pro though. what are the benefits? is it just more efficient or..? thanks again man
[Droid Pro General] hanybanoub:
Just want to say thanks again!

And that launcher pro is not only brilliant to use, but also saved me loads of battery life!

It seems that motoblur uses a lot of battery with widgets etc.

With launcher pro my phone's extended battery shows 80% after 7 hours, whereas without it, and 7 hours later otherwise (using phone in same way!) I would have 60 or 70% left.

Highly recommend.

I will also use titanuim. Isnt it better to remove apps rather than freeze them?

Cheers!
[Droid Pro General] eus107709:
@budwiser0240

While most people use Titanium Backup for backup, I really only use it for freezing. As for "Backup Assistant", it's something that Motorola concocted and I refuse to use it. Google already automatically backs up what I need.

As for Launcher Pro or ADW, I feel it's runs more smoothly than the Motorola or Google homescreens. There are many things you can configure in LP and ADW, but I won't go into them here.. there's enough threads about them. To keep it simple, just use the default settings for now.

@hanybanoub

The biggest drain on your battery is probably those social networking widgets that come with the phone. The Motorola widgets and programs all seem to be poorly written software. If you want to use social networking widgets, maybe you can use the official ones from the Market.

Freezing the apps allows you to quickly unfreeze them if you need to. Motorola updates often requires those apps be present. Also, if you break the functionality of the phone by freezing/removing them, it's easier to fix. With the SBF available, it's not that big of a deal either way. You can always restore them.
[Droid Pro General] LeoBloom.:
Complete newbie to android

I am a complete newbie to the android system so if I could get some clarification :). I've got my phone configured the way I like it with LauncherPro. I have not rooted yet but I am interested in using TitaniumBackup to freeze useless apps, especially cityID. A few questions then:

1. Does freezing all these apps effectively mean getting rid of MotoBlur? I am under the impression that MotoBlur runs in the background and LauncherPro simply runs over it?

2. Can I use z4root version 1.3.0? Will the unroot option work if I need to unroot or will I have to flash the TBH SBF to unroot?

3. Do I need to wipe anything prior to rooting and using Titanium backup or can I just do those two steps if I haven't rooted before?

4. Optional Question :) What sort of advantage do would a custom ROM give a phone like the Droid Pro versus rooting and freezing useless apps?

Thanks
[Droid Pro General] eus107709:
@LeoBloom

1. MotoBlur runs deep.. you're only getting rid of some of it. Components of the original Android code aren't even included in the software, so you're still running Blur. When you run LauncherPro, the Motorola homescreen will not be running. The phone/contacts module, the gallery, the camera.. it's all Moto. Not all of it is terrible I suppose.. seems like many of the components are built off Android code, just modified (maybe someone can confirm this).

2. You should be able to unroot with 1.3.. never tried, but I do get the unroot button.

3. You don't have to wipe for either of those.

4. It depends on the custom ROM and the objective of the "chef". Some modders aim for Battery Life, some for speed, and some try to bring the phone back to being close to AOSP. Android Operating System Project is the source code that all Android phones are based off of, but unfortunately manufacturers like to deviate away from it by adding their own garbage.
[Droid Pro General] LeoBloom.:
Thanks

Thanks for the replies eus!

I have one more question regarding "nandroid" backups. From what I understand, if I mess something up, I don't have to flash the TBH SBF if I have a nandroid backup. I could instead use it to revert my phone to the way I had it before I started experimenting.

Are there any specific instructions beyond what is listed here:

androidforums DOT com/droid-pro-all-things-root/233471-droid-pro-bootstrap-clockwork-mod.html

(New users restriction, cannot post links)

Does anyone else have experience with this and can add something?

Sometimes I wish I had gotten a Droid X solely because of the number of guides already written for it... :S
[Droid Pro General] budwiser0240:
Thx for the reply. definitely gonna check out launcher pro soon
[Droid Pro General] kjjb0204:
Backup Assistant is a verizon feature. It's available on all new verizon smartphones and is backed up your verizon account online.
[Droid Pro General] kinggofg:
Thanks for the list. I froze almost all the same things as you after installing the latest OTA update. seems to be working great.

I didn't freeze:

Social Messaging 2.2.1

Social Mess Serv 2.2.1

Social Net 2.2.1

Social Share 2.2.1

Social Status 2.2.1

I want to freeze most of these, but I really want to keep the linking between facebook, linkedin and my contacts. Anyone know which ones I can safely remove? I don't care about ANY of the other functionality associated with these. Plan to use the facebook app from marketplace. This app however doesn't link into your motorola contact like it does in ASOP
[Droid Pro General] eus107709:
Unfortunately, the Facebook app will never be able to sync with your contacts because our phone uses Motorola's contact manager instead of the Android Source Code Project one (as you've mentioned). Perhaps you can look into installing the AOSP contact manager on the Droid Pro. I'm not sure if it's possible though, but it might be worth looking into.

I have no intention of ever running the "social" apps ever again, so can't help you there!
[Droid Pro General] kinggofg:
I played around with freezeing them anyway. I froze all that you mentioned. I still have all my facebook and linked in contact and phone numbers in there. Not sure it syncs properly, but they are there. I can always periodically unfreeze I guess and get a sync.

With these frozen my phone lasted a full 24 hours with moderate to high use!!! awesome.
[Droid Pro General] dettofatto:
For uninstalling some system apps, you can try to move from /system/apps (xxx.apk) to data/apps and than after reboot you can do a normal uninstalling, ...

You can use rootexplorer (only root...)
[Droid Pro General] jsbutran:
Can you provide a link to download TBH SBF. Thanks
[Droid Pro General] StingRay_:
js

See 2nd post in this link from MyDroidWorld....http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/droid-pro-discussions/6042-droid-pro-sbf-file-2-26-20-full-rsdlite.html
[Droid Pro General] jsbutran:
I tried all tricks as indicated in the first post with no success. I am actually pissed off. Even after avoiding the update it self boots after few minutes. Very frustrating.
[Droid Pro General] StingRay_:
Basically the only thing I've done is do a factory reset and then root...I haven't frozen much of anything...

Installed setCPU, Titanium Backup, and Root Explorer...

I'll get a random reboot every once in a while, but not enough to become an issue...sounds like you may have a hardware issue that may needed to be looked at...
[Droid Pro General] jsbutran:
Don't require anything to do. Just install the latest update and wow no problems. Reboot problem stands corrected.
[EVO 4G General] RTWright:
Question, I noticed that even apps that control the different volume levels of your phone's many media sounds including ringer, notifications, media, etc... That the controls for Media and Notifications are one in the same, is that by design or can they be separated?
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Download sound manager
[EVO 4G General] RTWright:
Thanks a ton! Appreciate it!
[Blade General] Kaherdin:
Today Swedish TeliaSonera spokesperson told the public that ZTE Blade will get the Android 2.2 update in approxemately two weeks.

hopeing for "the perfect ROM".