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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Unknownforce:
Very well, I skimmed over your original post, and it looked like from a glance, that you were saying that the 1A charger caused it, my mistake.

However, I never said that other manufacturers supply 1A chargers, I said that HTC does, so perhaps you should take your own advice and read.

Secondly, You presume to think for some reason that I have not done any REAL flashing/experimenting. You are incorrect. Being the owner of several HTC devices, I too have done thousands of flashes, both experimental and non-experimental. I also built my own roms and kernels for all the devices I specified. And I have NEVER had a problem with a battery failure caused by software issues. I did have ONE issue, but I caused the issue, I charged a battery with NO built in software/hardware protection, and killed it by leaving it on the charger without protection, which was my fault. (hence the second Touch Pro 2)

Thirdly, There have been a total of what... 8 or 9 battery failures reported now? (Granted this does not include those that have NOT reported on the forums that it died...) Now, I'm no expert, but in terms of statistics, in the minds of the manufacturer of products that are designed KNOWING that they are going to fail at some point or another, And dealing with naturally unstable elements inherent to the design aspect of the product, I would think that this is an acceptable number compared to the total number of batteries sold for this specific device.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vettejock99:
Nope, presumed nothing. Even with dozens or hundreds of flashes you may not see this, especially with WinMo phones as I noted you listed 3, and so what I said was correct. You did note your phones came with HTC wall chargers, but that was irrelevant. I was talking to the vast majority of chargers of all types, which many of us have and use in addition to our HTC wall chargers (as I was, because I was traveling). And your last point, again, is off the mark. As you note, for every report of an issue there are many times more folks with actual issues who for whatever reason don't note them (in my experience, usually because we're all too busy). But I've taken some of my valuable time to try to help the dozens or hundreds of folks (including non-Evo folks who may search XDA or Google and see this) who actually have this problem. Anyway, I've wasted more than even time on you, so reply all you like, I'm done with this debate.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mlin:
Holding the charge at 4.2 V is not an issue, and most kemels will do this. The "issue" is with the continuous movement of Li ions towards the anode even in low amperes. However, thus far the evidence and data presented behind the catastrophic failure caused by Li plating - is somewhat lacking.

Furthermore, I think its BS when someone with little knowledge on the subject reaches to blame SBC as soon as something goes wrong with their battery. I suppose its nice to have a scapegoat ...

Tapa tapa tapa
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mich11128:
It's funny you should post this because this just happened to me....like it happened yesterday. I rooted my roommate's phone and the next morning his phone wouldn't turn on or charge with any charger, etc. I knew it had to have been a problem with the battery because I'm sure it wasn't something I had done like bricking the phone, so I switched his battery with mine and...his phone worked. Maybe it was a faulty battery or maybe I DID do something wrong but it was weird because all I did was flash CM and I didn't use any SBC/HAVS kernels. Either way seeing this post and what happened to my friend's phone has me a bit wary of the EVO's battery...but hey we all know the risks here so the lesson learned is...research before anything lol.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neotelos_com:
This is no secret, really.

It's just a common misconception that all USB chargers work the same.

USB 2.0 standard is 500mA+, and specifications allow USB 2.0 chargers to go up to 1.8A (1800mA).

USB 3.0 specifies a primary port to have 900mA, so charging your phone on a USB 3.0 port (laptop/computer) is recommended over USB 2.0.

Many smartphone chargers (stock) provide 1A, while many 3rd party chargers still use the typical 500mA.

ALSO, it should be noted that when a devices battery (if it is lithium-based) falls below a certain voltage, the device typically will not attempt to charge it for safety reasons (it causes oxidation which can cause physical damage and in worst scenarios the battery will explode).
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neotelos_com:
Also, don't blame SBC...while I'm not a fan and it's arguable it can cause battery damage, this is solely a USER-ERROR (that means you made the mistake, not your phone, not your phone's software)!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KBizzle:
Still think this should be in the general forum. Although I did "develop" a headache from reading all the big words, so maybe it can stay. :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khshapiro:
1 month after getting my Evo(2days after the Evo was released is my start date) ,my battery took a crap. I was unrooted. I rooted in July , I've run many roms and kernels since. I have been running SBC with not one problem unless you consider fantastic battery life an issue . I've been runening SBC since it came out and I'm an extremely heavy user.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vettejock99:
The reason I called it a "secret" (not the quotes) is that many non-OEM chargers listed as 1A - aren't. I have 3 others here that show 1A that don't work (haven't plugged into a multimeter to see what they are actually putting out.

Also, to the poster who said this is the user's fault and not SBC's let me be clear (again, as I was in the first post) - I take absolute responsibility for whatever happens when I flash my phone with non stock software. Further, I am not blaming SBC, just mentioned I MAY have been running it at the time. That said, the phone had a charge and was plugged in to the same chargers it has operated on dozens of times before and again is operating on now that it has been revived, so there is SOME software or hardware issue here. Saying it is my fault, beyond the fact that I flashed something unauthorized, is patently ridiculous. Just want to be clear that taking responsibility for risk and understanding the related consequences is one thing, but being blamed in totality for all consequences is something else altogether.

So, to prevent this from turning into a blame SBC thread, I'd ask that anyone who isn't experiencing problems, or is, but hasn't had a completely dead battery, post in the SBC kernel thread, because they are doing great work over there.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XyberTripX:
Dead battery issue

happens all the time while trying to stream the internet to PC. I just hook up my battery to an external charger that plugs into the wall, then use my spare battery till thats done charging.

See ya
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neotelos_com:
You may not have tested, but you also aren't listing the stated voltages.

Input voltage can sometimes be used for reference, which can also explain some issues you are having.

This has turned into some big "secret" when all it really is happens to be you finding the fact that non-OEM products often have more quality issues and also higher margins of error.

Many people may not know this, but the way you have gone about this thread is what me and others are objecting. Why you even mentioned SBC as if it had something to do with this is also a big issues, considering there is much controversy over SBC kernels.

You have to understand there are proper ways of presenting information and findings, and this is not one of them...you came here presenting the presumption that this is a dev issue (in some aspects pointing fingers) when this is far from that.

I mean, I hope you understand the way you mentioned SBC insinuates SBC has something to do with this...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Novarider:
Your charging port might be going bad.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vettejock99:
Um, no, and it's not. Read into it all you like, there are EE's who will argue on both sides of the SBC discussion and frankly I don't care - I an running another SBC kernel right now. I do know it is happening to people and just because I knew the HTC charger would fix it and you may have known it doesn't mean the majority of others do.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manup456:
One thing I learned with the 25+ android phones I have had and the many years already using android is phones die according to the user wether battery,bricks or just the phone not performing like it should. I use and mod my phone the proper way and have never had issues unless I F-ed it up my self and a few factory issues I noticed a hour or so after opening the phone. I also have used a bunch of kernals and have been using SBC kernals since they started appearing on the seen and have yet to see one issue but then again from the years of my modding experience on phones in general I never buy extended batterys because they have always caused issues also I never use 10 dollar batterys or any charger that did not come with the phone.

So I think this thread is give or take based on the user and what they are doing with there phone, but not saying its not a issue.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] head.lackey:
I am a Sprint service tech. This type of "failure" is common and is not exclusive to the Evo. An undercharged battery will often refuse to respond. Generally leaving the device plugged into the wall with your OEM charger will eventually trigger a charge. Your local Sprint ASC or Retail service center can jump start a "dead" battery with there Cadex.

Newer cell batteries very rarely die or fail.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vettejock99:
Exactly what I was trying to say.

My last few comments on this:

I came here to help some folks. I knew the resolution to my issue, but we shouldn't assume everyone does. In fact anecdotally I would say MOST people who come here want to know just enough to flash ROMs or tweak their phone to address some major irritation or reap some benefit their provider doesn't give them, but they don't care about these "corner cases". And although some will disagree with me, I don't believe that this limit to their desire for knowledge means they don't have a right to be here and shouldn't be flashing.

In the end I came here to offer up help for a real problem. I disagree with anyone who says there is no software involvement here and with the statement that this is somehow user error (unless one believes letting your battery get below 20% or plugging into a non-OEM charger is user error). Clearly it happens, there are theories as to why it is happening and no one should squelch those. I've seen a lot of people leave this board for others recently for exactly that reason - people here are too quick to weigh in with their opinion or thread crap and this is one of the reasons this board has become progressively less helpful as of late. I think this sucks, but I am not starving for approval, so move this thread, lock it, let it fall into page 10 obscurity or whatever, I don't care.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrmomoman:
This is still a debate. I had my moments with SBC kernels and I associated it to those SBC related kernels. I did my test twice and both times the SBC kernels with USB - PC charge would cause my battery to die. Also without the HTC OEM Wall Charger it would not work. I kick started it with the HTC OEM Wall Charger and cable. Even a non-oem cable that I have used for everything doesn't work to kick start it.

My experience for my phone is to stay away from the SBC Kernels. This is regarding dead battery/non-responsive phone.

I have had some of the older non-SBC kernels not charge my phone with a Wall Charger (HTC) to past 65%.

So who knows it sometimes is a crap shoot.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iamshaked:
lots of mentioning s about sbc's kernel

just sayin

I love peoples response though.

"**** it , i have amazing battery life I dont care" (reminds me of iphone vs evo video)

MS if you could just develop or invent something that gets response like this even if it does end up killing something, youd be a very rich man.

get on it, and stay thirsty my friend
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KeysStickler:
I just installed Eternal Prophecy 5.8, which kicks ass, but now my battery will only charge when the phone is turned off. If I plug any of my chargers while on the phone says charging and the amber led lights up for all of 1 second, then nothing.

Anyone have a fix for this?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sharxbyte:
THANK YOU!!!

I already bought an aftermarket extended battery and it performs well but now I know I can fix my old one! same exact thing happened!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grokon:
Hi all,

My collegue comes up this morning with his phone which is no more booting.

I'm used with the custom roms stuff and updating using odin and had already saw many posts about Internal SD failure. However the behaviour of his phone is really not as what i red before.

His phone is alway cycling like if the power button were stock, but it is not. Just shows I-9000M then reboot (no "S" or other stuff)

If I try to access recovery mode, it start cycling. If I go to download mode, it works (and not cycles).

So I've used Odin to install Stock Bell JL2 rom (and update the bootloader). It changed nothing.

Also tried to roll back JH2, with pit 512 and repartition, update bootloader. changed nothing!

then re-up JL2... changed nothing!

So he is leading to Bell service center now... but have you ever seen that?

Thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 13a:
Hey, im stuck with the EXACT same problem. Ive tried everything too. unfortunetly, i don;t have a receipt, so i can't go to bell :(

Still searching and asking... just hoping. lol.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 94tbird:
I moved my apps to my SD card last night but now none of them will launch after a reboot. I can see all the files on the SD card fine, my music plays and everything, but the apps i moved all show default android icons and will not launch.

HELP!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blakeboys:
Huh.... Is your memory card formatted correctly? I've heard if a memory card is format into fat32 then they linux based file system wont recognize the apps. Maybe thats your problem? Hope that helps.
[Android Apps and Games] Namuna:
I don't agree with the app being "free" if it's ad supported AND forces itself to quit if Ads are disabled on the phone (ie... via Ad killers like AdFree).

I see you also have a 'Pro' version of the app for ~$1.30US, but now that there's a 15min only refund window, I was interested in trying out your software but I'm feeling a little "trapped" into having to either allow Ads or buy your app outright (no way any decent amount of testing can be done within 15min).

Sorry, but for me, I'm going to pass.
[Android Apps and Games] XlAfbk:
you're really shooting yourself in the foot with this. I won't disable my ad-blocking hosts file for this app and i'm not gonna buy anything that i didn't test first -> you've lost me as a potentional customer
[Android Apps and Games] berserker_devel:
I think that the market already gives you a great opportunity to test the "pro" version with the "refound" option: ask Google to change the 15min limitation if it's not enough for you,that's not a decision of mine.

In my opinion ad-free tools are a shame for Android and for all us developers.
[Android Apps and Games] kevin@TeslaCoil:
Wow I've been copycatted ;)

QuickSSHd ($1.50 USD)

http://www.appbrain.com/app/quicksshd/com.teslacoilsw.quicksshd

Right down to the Help page

I'm not going to make a big fuss as the core part (Dropbear), for both projects, is open source and we're both setup on github posting the modified sources which is good.

QuickSSHd's dropbear's github: https://github.com/barryk/android_external_dropbear

SSHDroid's dropbear's github: https://github.com/berserker/android_external_dropbear

But I would appreciate it if you tried to differentiate a little more and wrote your own help page. The interfaces are also very similar, but that's at least a relatively natural interface for a program that controls an SSH Daemon and needs to provide information on such.

-Kevin

TeslaCoil Software
[Android Apps and Games] berserker_devel:
Hi Kevin, thanks for provide the screenshot of the help page (I missed that :) ) but...why did you post only the "bottom" part :p ? Wasn't the top too much copycatted for you :p ?

Btw yes: I was a customer of your application in the past but once a day I decided to write my own implementation for the requirements that I need and I take the terminal commands help from there: I don't see any sort of "stealing" in that (I cannot change the "commands" :) ). You can try to decompile the two apk and see if they are really similar before posting such words.

I find not very kind to spam your application here instead...

Peace, bye
[Android Apps and Games] kevin@TeslaCoil:
I didn't accuse you of stealing my code and I have no interest in decompiling your APK as it's simply not worth the effort. It's obvious that you looked at my app and copied the ideas and interface and even the help. The top of your help follows the same format as mine as well, just with less details. I felt showing the bottom highlighted the similarities best.

The commands are indeed just commands, and of course I wouldn't try to claim owner ship over them, but you wouldn't have accidentally put them in the exact same order, and used this exact same unusual and funny command of:

ssh-keygen -t dsa -f ~/.ssh/id_dsa -N ''
ssh -p 2222 root@192.168.187.11 'cat >> .ssh/authorized_keys' > ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub

Why not just use scp to copy the key over?

Like I said, I'm not trying to make a big fuss, I'm not trying to get you to shut down your app or anything. By all means keep pushing it, keep improving it. I'm just pointing out that your app, in it's current state, is only a copy of mine. And again I encourage you to differentiate yours from mine. Give me some competition :P. Give me something to copy :P.
[Android Apps and Games] madfix:
As a user of both apps (paid quickSshD and this ad-supported one) I must agreed with Kevin in that there's not really visible differences between them, actually.

Will stay tuned on this competition, always giving improvement to users.

[2nd_degree] Keep fighting ;-) [/2nd_degree]

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[Android Apps and Games] camalot:
Wow, I just want to say that i think it is funny that people are complaining about blocking use of the app if you use ad blocking software.

Being a developer myself, I too block use if you run adblocking software. The Ad supported versions are free because of the ads. If you have ways to block how the developer potentially makes money off the app, then it becomes pointless for developers to place ads in their applications, and then the only way they can make any money is to charge for the application.

Do you feel that the developers should just release everything for free and their time, skill and effort is worth nothing? In time, I bet you will see either more apps that block use if you have these ad blockers.

/2cents

Nice app, I plan on trying it out later this evening. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] XlAfbk:
I'm pretty sure most people here have some kind of technical background and know the value of a nice app. But also most of us want to test-drive an app before they buy it, just like you don't go into a record store and pick a random CD but you listen a few songs before buying.

According to appbrains list I spent $171.87 on apps so I'm really not someone expecting stuff for free, but I will not buy anything I didn't test before. And I'm not going to change my phones config just to be able to test some app, if you as dev think you can force your users to configure their phone in a particular way then I'm a lost sale for you.

It's really the same way that websites not working in my browser lose me as customer, there's more than enough competition, I'll just go use a website that wants me as customer.
[Android Apps and Games] berserker_devel:
I agree with you but...what's wrong with testing "SSHDroidPro" and refound it if it doesn't meet your requirements? The "pro" version does not check for adblockers so you can test it :)

I'll add this notice to the topic.
[Android Apps and Games] Virnik0:
ROFL!

I was thinking about the same! I am happy user of QuickSSHd, I have paid it, and now I see this mirror picture of the same app!

I think that such behaviour is not fair...simply to copy other app, and without any credits sell it as own work...

So I am sticking with QuickSSHd, because I do not want to be part of this theft. I know that both apps are opensource, but the thing is the same...

Anyway, thanks kevin for saying it. Thumbs up!
[Android Apps and Games] bryanchapman9999:
That was quite OK within the 24hrs - now with 15mins....
[Android Apps and Games] bryanchapman9999:
Couldn't agree more.

If your app is good people will buy it.

Don't force people into giving you revenue

I do understand the flipside though - why code for nothing. I think googles really ballsed up with the 15min refund window
[Android Apps and Games] berserker_devel:
Hi, can you elaborate more about "copy other app"? Copy what? 4 terminal commands? Did you try the application before making this accusation? I don't think...
[Android Apps and Games] Virnik0:
I know linux well, so I do know that command syntax is mostly the same. But I have aldo seen screenshots in zhe first post, and I can compare app design to one I have already installed. And they are pretty same.

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Android Apps and Games] mestrezzz:
DroidSSHd

A few months back I started working on a custom/personal solution... and DroidSSHd was born:

http code google com / p / droidsshd /

https github com / mestre / droidsshd

So... yet another project :)

Cheers!
[Android Apps and Games] XlAfbk:
A 15 min window is just not enough to test an app. Playing around with the config, testing commands, trying different stuff, that all takes way longer than those 15m. I usually test the free version of an app for like a week or so and then - most of the time - I either buy/donate or uninstall and test a different app for that task.
[Android Apps and Games] berserker_devel:
Disable your adblocker for the time required to test the free version, then enable adblocker again and upgrade to the Pro version :)

Take all the time that you need :D
[Android Apps and Games] XlAfbk:
Well you obviously don't want me as customer. I don't have any problem with that, there's 2 good alternatives out there that don't force me to use the phone in the way you want, so goodbye.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Autris:
Anyone know the default path for the WiMAX RAS keys?

Tried this method:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=887900

But with no success... Wanted to make a backup just in case.
[EVO Shift 4G General] joeykrim:
wimax partition including the RSA key is located at :

/dev/block/mmcblk0p25

just updated my app from the EVO to support the Shift

WiMAX Key Checker
[EVO Shift 4G General] XmentalX:
Awesome!
[EVO Shift 4G General] Deleted member 2173701:
thanks for this. i was tearing it apart looking for it.
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] Jon2555:
Whan I install Sygic Aura on my folio 100, it say "3D hardware acceleration not available in this phone". Is it possible to solve this problem?
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] Trumpfz:
It seems it only works with these devices

http://sygic.com/aura/list/
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] Jon2555:
Thank's
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] doneyhtc:
sygic is working for me on my folio