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[EVO Shift 4G General] oboroninja:
I work for Sprint Corporate and unfortunately we wouldn't be able to accept the return. What you can do is this.

Go to a radioshack, sit outside the store and call them pretending to be a new customer interested in the shift, and switching to sprint from verizon. See if they have the phone in stock. Then once they confirm that they have it, walk in with your phone and all the paperwork. Simply explain the situation and the runaround you've gotten. They can't tell you they don't have the phone in stock. Their district manager would be an actual corporate sprint employee, you would be able to get his contact info from either radioshack or from a manager of a corporate sprint store.
[EVO Shift 4G General] ESKIMOn00b:
Fwiw I work at rs, they cannot refuse your swap, call the dm if the store manager refuses...

But no the dm is NOT a sprint employee Radioshack only
[EVO Shift 4G General] sph33r:
Sounds like you have a wake-lock issue. Have you checked to see if your time awake and uptime is the same?
[EVO Shift 4G General] riggsandroid:
Do you have wireless sync turned on in WinAmp? That killed my battery on the Heroc for some reason. I keep it turned off until I want to use it.
[EVO Shift 4G General] veidt_industries:
Usually wake time is ~1 hr while uptime is 6-7 when the phone dies. I also have winamp wireless sync turned off.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Deadsoulsniper:
I ran my phone with multiple long phone calls, texts, and data. Using different apps and such I charged the phone for 30 minutes on a car ride and then on the way home played my mph3 player in my car while not charging. When I got home I couldn't believe it. I've been on my phone sine 10 this morning so about 5 hours and I am at 94% battery. But I am temp rooted and all bloatware removed. Love the battery.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Shadodragon:
I had some pretty terrible battery life when I first got the phone. After a week, I did the following:

- Factory reset

- Configured google, exchange and my "basic" apps

- Ran PRL and Profile updates

- Set display to about 15-20% brightness

- Charged phone until the light turned green

- Then did a bump charge (turned phone completely off and reconnected it to the charger.)

Battery life for me more than doubled.
[EVO Shift 4G General] emkorial:
I was getting pretty terrible battery life, and the battery was getting pretty hot, letting the battery completely run out of juice, then charging it to full with the ohone off, seems to have REALLY helped.
[EVO Shift 4G General] fifedogg:
Is your phone getting Hot during this time?

I was able to get my phone to last 48 hrs on light use and atleast 12 listening to howard stern all day and playing games.

A little list of things to do, check and or disable;

1. Use spare parts and find out whats killing your battery ie partial wake usage, cpu etc.

2. Turn your window animations from all to only some animations

3. Turn off automatic display and keep it around 20-30%

4. I have auto sync off on all my appz (E-mail, Gmail, Facebook etc.). I update my E-mail and such manually.

5. Turn off data when not using it. I find data accounts for around 15-25% of juice used and thats just when on idle.

6. Only use widgets on the homescreen if you really have to (Running widgets use a lot of power over time)

7. Use Android Hackers tool from the market and it will break down how long your cpu was in a certain state. ie my cpu spent 65% at 245mhz and 28% at 806mhz.

8. Keep off 4G, Bluetooth, wirless networks for location and GPS if not using it (GPS uses less power than wireless networks and is more accurate anyway) I assigned Quick Settings to open when I hold down the search button. That makes it easy to enable/disable any of these setting within seconds.

9. Turn off google talk and make sure it doesnt sign in automatically (most people dont realise this)

10. Turn screen timeout to 15 or 30 seconds (if longer your phone can keep the display on accidentally while in your pocket if a button is pressed, wasting power)

11. Dont use a task killer unless its to kill an app you know drains your battery and therefore must be closed to save juice

12. Check your apps. Some apps keep using cpu etc because they were not programed correctly. (some appz I've found to drain my battery very bad are; Yahoo Mail, Craigslist, AndTorrent and the market if a download is hung up. There are a few others I cant remember off the top of my head) If your phone is getting hot for no apparent reason this may be the cause.

13. Calibrate your battery by bump charging (charge your phone till its full while on, turn it off and charge till its full again. Then bump charge it around 5-7 times) Wipe battery stats if applicable. If you have a car charger, plug your phone in on the way to work to account for the little bit of drain that occurs once the phone is fully charged yet still on the charger.
[EVO Shift 4G General] TOKiMONSTA:
I installed Juice Defender and right now it's 6:30pm and I unplugged at 8AM and I'm at 54% battery.

Usage has been like Tapatalk, sent about 200 texts, read my Google Reader account and Pulse. Played some games for like 20 minutes too. WiFi and GPS have been on all day.

When I'm actually using the phone it doesn't really help but when my phone goes idle, it goes into super battery saver mode or something because it only goes down like a percent every 2 hours on idle.

Looking at JuicePlotter from about 8AM to 10AM it dropped 80%, from 10AM to 11AM when I was doing work and not using the phone as much went from 80% to 75%, 11AM to 12PM went from 75% to 74%, then from 12PM to 4PM it dropped to 55%. I took a nap and just woke up at 6PM and it's 54%.

I've been reading JuiceDefender doesn't help but yesterday, from 8AM to 6PM it was down to 20%.

So if you want extra battery life I recommend trying JuiceDefender. I'm just using the free version on default.

Of course if I'm in super power user mode it drops like 10%-20% an hour but if you only check your phone throughout the day and when you have to wait or in the bathroom or something and it helps tremendously imo.
[EVO Shift 4G General] T-Rave:
I started off by turning my screen brightness down and making sure most notifications were off or every 15 minutes, ie twitter. Have been impressed since day 1. I have heard nothing less than 10 hours on a normal use phone. I typically get 16+ with wifi and gps going.

The battery is a very strong point for this phone, so if it's not preforming, defiantly try talking to a manager till satisfied
[EVO Shift 4G General] ttown:
I had a similar problem to the point I almost returned the phone. Before returning I tried:

- Factory reset

- Bump charged the battery

- turned brightness down

- GPS off

I have syncing set accordingly:

- weather every hour

- gmail and exchange push

I didn't add any apps for the first couple of days, then slowly added one app at a time and will watch my battery life. This has completely changed my battery life. I went from 2-4 hours to currently 9 hours 53 minutes and at 64%.
[EVO 4G General] Zorachus:
WTF is this all about ?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/18/sprint-increasing-new-3g-data-plan-contract-pricing-by-10-call/

The nation's third-largest carrier just announced that it's tacking on an extra monthly $10 "premium data" charge to its 3G Everything data plans.
[EVO 4G General] cosine83:
Learn to read. It's only for new customers and new smartphone activations via upgrades. If you don't upgrade then you don't get the charge.
[EVO 4G General] Zorachus:
But won't I get whacked for this new $10 charge when I upgrade to the EVO 2 this June ? So will EVO 2 charge me $10 for 4G + 10$ for 3G too ?
[EVO 4G General] backdown:
Still a slap in the face. That means when your contract is up and you buy that new phone, you are also paying 10$ more (can anyone confirm if this is added onto the 10$ we pay for 4g?).
[EVO 4G General] js2393:
I'm pretty sure if you have a 4G phone that comes with a $10 charge anyway, you'll just keep paying the same additional $10. I think this extra $10 is only for people on 3G phones. So basically, everyone's paying that additional $10 now.
[EVO 4G General] entropism:
The "4g" fee now applies to all smartphones, that's all.

Sent from my HTC EVO
[EVO 4G General] tomh1979:
it can't get much clearer then this people, so no if you have a 4g phone you won't be paying $20, you only be paying the $10 that we already are, this additional fee is just for regular 3g phones.
[EVO 4G General] gqstatus0685:
Yeah. The are starting to see $ signs and possibly getting greedy. I'm going to follow this thread so I can see the same people claim that it's all lies.

The funny thing is I was talking to a rep yesterday about the new upgrade policy and brought up the $10 premium data. I asked her how come an HTC Hero doesn't have the charge and it accesses the same internet and it considered close to the Evo aside from 4G. I even told her that I would expect Sprint to make that charge mandatory on all phones being that they are seeing they can get away with it with current Evo owners.

That's the price you pay for a smartphone nowadays.
[EVO 4G General] Ddt928:
Wouldn't a better marketing strategy be to just incrrease the cost of the Everyting data plan to $79.99 and $139.99? Even with the increase Sprint's plans are the best out there. Extra charges piss me off though.
[EVO 4G General] tomh1979:
that would make more since honestly, but then what about the 4g phones then, lol, since a single line for the evo is already 79.99, that would be like tacking on another $10 on that so they could say it's a whatever fee, then someone ends up paying 89.99, cause they didn't realize they are getting screwed more then normal, though i would hope and think sprint would say the evo would only be 79.99 as any other smartphone would be.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
So I guess its clear now that the David Blaine thing on the 7th is for making more of your money disappear along with premium status. :D
[EVO 4G General] gqstatus0685:
Same thing I was thinking.
[EVO 4G General] magicalsleeper:
Well all you "4g premium fee" complainers. Not so unfair you have to pay an extra 10 bucks anymore? LOL. Part of me is wondering if this is their way to make the 4g phone lineup more appealing..."you're gonna pay a premium anyways, why not have the ability to use 4g just in case we decide to roll it out in your city...as long as we don't go broke before then."

Welcome to the (give us money) NOW network!
[EVO 4G General] illwafer:
my guess is that their announcement has to do with adding new cool phones that are 3G.

iphone could be a possibility, but maybe they'll say they allow any CDMA phone on their network.
[EVO 4G General] AyyRayy:
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...-unlocking-phones/&category=mobile&postPage=1

Sprint already had a lawsuit over this. You "should" be able to put iPhone from Verizon on sprint. Quoting a Rep.

Sent from Evo powered by CM7
[EVO 4G General] rank78:
Funny, when I was on the phone with a Sprint rep last month getting my unlocked EVO activated the lady said they can activate phone 'as long as its labeled with the Sprint logo'. I figured she was wrong or lying but I just wanted to get off the phone.
[EVO 4G General] ghodzilla5150:
It's about to get worse. There are rumors that Sprint is going to drop the Premier Upgrade every 12 months program. That they will NOT give Sprint Premiere customers the rebates until their two year contract is up. IF this is the case I will be leaving Sprint as soon as they announce this. They just can't get out of their own way. One of the main reasons I stay with Sprint is because of their annual upgrades. It would not shock me to see Sprint file bankruptcy if they start to implement all these idiotic plans.

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216413

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/58531?start=0&tstart=0&reqsorting=dec
[EVO 4G General] Westfire:
The thing that sucks about this and might be the reason why they just didn't add $10 to plans is that corporate or work discounts do not apply to these fees and only towards the base plan. I was mad when they took the discounts off the $19.99 additional lines.

I won't leave Sprint over this because they are still cheaper, especially with our work discount but I guess I have no reason not to get my wife a 4G phone. I was hoping to save some money since we get 4G at work but not at home and she wouldn't use 4G anyway.

However, if this happens in addition to the Sprint Premier changes, I am going to get really mad for getting screwed in two places.
[EVO 4G General] Stratus41298:
As long as my data is still unlimited i'll be happy. I don't come anywhere near 2gb or 5gb but if they start screwing around i'll say screw it and buy a damn contract free phone. I like my mobile internet but what they're all doing now is getting a little silly.

They have to raise prices as needed but they should've just upped the whole plan without a $10 tack on. The whole point of Sprint's pricing scheme is to keep it simple for people. That was one of the biggest reasons I came to sprint this year. That and the EVO of course :)
[EVO 4G General] a1platnum:
Did u people think Sprint was going to stay the same price forever, lol. Everything around us has been affected by inflation and Sprint is no different. Sprint has to make money to people. The competition increases they increase but still stay lower than the competition. Just sounds like their getting ready for some more phones on the EVO level. Not to mention balancing all the free tethering going on. They say pay for hotspot and people found a way out of paying for that.

Sent via HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G
[EVO 4G General] redsoxfan320:
Just putting this out there

I believe this helps support the argument that sprint may be getting the iphone or another phone thats rumored to be coming to sprint. If you think about it, there isn't a 4g iphone, so by instating a $10 charge every month on new 3g smart phones. Sprint would bring in a boatload when everyone jumps ship to get the new phone or tablet that is going to be announced on the 7th of February. This change in plans really makes sense for sprint.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Most did. Changes are-a-coming. Sprints preparing.
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
They barely had these prices for a couple of years, at least stay the course for a little longer. I use to defend Sprint and tell people to join because of the lower prices and decent phone selection, now I'm seeing red and considering jumping ship. Might as well since the price difference isn't so extreme anymore...
[EVO 4G General] ghodzilla5150:
Exactly. With Verizon getting the iPhone and AT&T getting the Atrix, Sprint BETTER have some Awesome Dual Core phone come Feb 7, or it's time to bail after 12 years.
[EVO 4G General] DoctorComrade:
Sprint is still the only provider who has service up at my cottage for some odd reason. So for now I am still with them.
[EVO 4G General] Alfred F. Jones:
At first I wasn't going to complain and think about leaving, even with the revocation of 12 month upgrades. But this?

I make a living selling every. carrier's. plans. Sure, Sprint might have a low base price, but they have the highest add-a-line price, highest data overage fees, and now the most additional fees for data of every carrier.

So while everyone else is offering tiered data plans (you know, more affordable ones) Sprint is a) bashing tiered plans as "a fad" and b) raising their Unlimited Data feature charges higher than everyone else?!

I don't even think anything on Feb. 7th could blow my mind hard enough to forgive this monumental level of fail.
[EVO 4G General] a1platnum:
I do recall when everything plans were $99, and Sprint dropped that same plan down to $69. Now, that same plan is still $10 cheaper than what I was paying 2yrs ago, sorry, but I guess I could complain but I won't. Do I like it, no, but understand why they are doing it. I'm still winning.

Sent via HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
+500 good ish right there.
[EVO 4G General] John Kotches:
Didn't/doesn't the $99 plan included unlimited minutes to any phone in the US?

$69 plan is not unlimited to any phone in the US. It's unlimited mobile to mobile which is the vast majority of my calling.

Swyped on my CM'D Evo using tapatalk!
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
What are you talking about? The add a lines are the same price as all carriers out there considering a "$30 mandatory data plan" is not required on additional lines. Overages on data is $0.003/kb and they have one fee assessed. You guys and your misleading mumbo jumbo. T-Mobile will be the cheapest considering nobody wants them. The less subscribers, the less people pay.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Yep the $99 was unlimited everything.....
[EVO 4G General] StealthTH:
I don't think there will be a 4G iPhone just yet...however this change would allow a 3G iPhone on Sprint with the Premium Data package. This may be just how they rationalize getting the fee for the iPhone since it will be viewed as a "Premium" product.

The one thing that does really suck about this new change is what it does to family plan's full of smartphones (new lines or upgrades). $10 per smartphone will quickly add up.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
But correct me if im wrong but ugrading those smartphones to a better phone (EVO, EVO Shift, EVO 2 or whatever), you would end up paying that $10 fee anyway, so whats the difference? If someone were upgrading to a 3G only phone, well now there would be truly unlimited data instead of that 5GB cap...SO its a win win regardless.
[EVO 4G General] StealthTH:
That is not what I'm getting at, I was merely bringing up the fact this change may be due to an iPhone 4 arrival and this change would allow them to charge premium data on it since it would probably be a 3g device. Just one angle I don't think anyone has explored yet. I personally don't like the change, I love my Evo and would never go to iOS, just thinking of why they would change this to effect 3g phones as well.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
I was going to point that out but oh well...
[EVO 4G General] Alfred F. Jones:
Adding an additional line to a family plan on every other carrier is $9.99/month, and unlimited text messaging with every other family plan offered across the board is considered "family unlimited text messaging" and is a $20~$30 feature charge added only onto the primary line.

So if a family plan has unlimited text messaging with Verizon, AT&T, or T-Mobile, additional lines are still $9.99 with unlimited text messaging included because the feature is on the primary line. Only on Sprint is there an extra $10.00 per line charge to keep unlimited text messaging on each additional line while at the same time charging the primary line for unlimited text messaging.

A good majority of customers add unlimited text messaging to their plans and want it on their additional lines, so with Sprint they are paying $19.99 per line for additional lines that on any other carrier would cost $9.99 and have the text messaging included.

That's pretty much what I mean by Sprint's cheap "base" pricing. Because their base prices seem great before feature charges are added on that hike up the price... only on Sprint.

(I wasn't as clear in my original post, sorry. :( )

Edit: I just re-read your post a third time. Are you saying that the primary line of a family plan can have a data plan that umbrellas over all of the additional lines (like I just went on about with the text messaging) without requiring additional charges (beyond the $10 of course)?? In effect that would make it a fair trade. (In my defense I don't have a family plan currently, and was only toying with the idea because I thought that $30 was mandatory on all lines?)
[EVO 4G General] a1platnum:
Correct, and for Sprint to have that offering was brilliant. I don't call land lines anymore, and when I did the weekend package and total mins well covered any calling I was going to make to anyone left in the stone age or any business call I was going to make. So I'm like Sprint still ftw, cause I'm paying $20-30 less then my friends that are basically doing the same things I'm doing but on other networks. Proof is in the pudding, we compare plans all the time.

Sent via HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G
[EVO 4G General] mbaseball3:
This increase in price is all in preparation for the huge speed jump for sprints 3g on February 7th. That's why its called a 3g premium charge. It's what they're calling the impossible becoming possible.

Sent from the Evo 4G
[EVO 4G General] rank78:
The funniest thing is they're applying these new rates to smartphones but included the Instinct line. :rolleyes: What a joke.
[EVO 4G General] hdad2:
They wont do this because then corporate discounts would apply to this $10. discounts only apply to the plan not add ons. Plus the idea that they may soon have a tiered premier program and this $10 wont count toward that either.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
To clarify, the $10 charge is if for:

A) If you have a 3G smartphone (Blackberry, Android, Palm, etc)

B) You do not already have the 4G fee. If you have it, you will not pay an additional $10

You're grandfathered in until you upgrade.

I agree it's ridiculous. They should learn to cut back on certain things like:

- Sprint Football Live

- Sprint NASCAR

- Sprint TV (which sucks, even with good coverage)

- Stop sponsoring NASCAR

Nobody will switch to Sprint because their logo is plastered on the side of a car. All of those apps can easily be reproduced for free by third-party developers. I don't understand charging for "premium data" when the service is the same. At least with 4G, we were getting something (I still didn't and don't agree paying extra for that). What the hell are 3G devices getting? Nothing. They should just call it out like it is: A rate increase. Asses.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I would laugh at this since T-Mo's HSPA+ 3G (which is now upgrading to 40+ Mbps) would blow away anything an upgraded Sprint 3G speed could offer.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
Fred, how did you interpret that those who already pay the additional $10 will have to pay an additional $10 after they upgrade (assuming nothing else changes) for a total of $20 in additional fees.
[EVO 4G General] ghodzilla5150:
When they do decide to charge anyone who has a 3G phone an extra $10, that's a breach of the contract I signed up for when I bought my daughter a Samsung Moment. I will use that and cancel that phone and NOT pay the ETF:) This is, IF they decide to add it onto already existing accounts.
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
Some people were complaining so I clarified.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
My understanding from the PR is since we're already paying the premium data fee, we won't be subject to an additional data fee.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Yes.....and please hold your breath until the first person confirms they hit that speed on a smartphone and not in some test lab with one person on the network. I swear some people just say the dumbest things.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
How about you inform yourself before posting. Look up the theoretical speeds for first generation EVDO Rev. B (which would be the most likely 3G upgrade for Sprint) and HSPA+. Of course most people wont hit the limits - how many do for Sprint/Clear WiMax? Either way, the upside and average will likely be higher with T-Mo's 40+ Mbps HSPA+. So yeah, people do say the dumbest things. It just wasn't me.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
so does this affect pre-existing customers who have not bought a new phone? i mean will i have to pay this for my wifes blackberry too now? i knew sprint was gonna pull this crap.
[EVO 4G General] Samzebian:
no, only if she re-news her contract when getting a new phone
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
most likely it will be at time when she upgrades, if not sprint would void your contract and strong arming you
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
YOU put that 40 mbps number out there right? OK, like i said, come back when someone hits it, otherwise stop throwing these theoretical hypothetical mumbo jumbo numbers out here as if people are gonna oooooh and aaaaaaah.