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[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
Yes, but we are talking specifically about RomMananger. If you want to support him for his other work, that is fine. But if he offers a paid program, he should support it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mmuzzy:
I agree with your point... to a point. I appreciate everything he does too and in that respect I'm happy he gets some money for his trouble. But if people buy a product and don't get support 'Oh well, at least it goes to Koush' shouldn't be the reason that it's OK not to get replies of any kind.

RM was the coolest thing and one of the first things I bought when I got my Inc. I actually bought it twice, once on my son's Eris. It actually seems to be getting some updates lately so hopefully some of the annoyances can be fixed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
99 cents?!? I think it was 3.99 or 4.99 back when I bought it!!!!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] atpa8a:
Anyone tried the kernels from IncPacker that are available in RM now?

Installed #2. Seems ok so far.

Does anyone know who the developer is?

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
Koush doesn't have a full time job. He is also hard at work adding new devices everyday to RM and clockworkmod. People need to stop bashing him. He has given all of us an easy way to managing our devices on the fly and think it was way worth the $5 to help him. If we didn't have clockwork we would be having to installed every rom, mod, theme, and modded Apk via adb and the computer. I know rm is free. But what if he charged from the beginning? We would all have to pay for it. I'm sure he has read all the emails and twitter post and he is trying his best to do what he can to please everyone. What if your request work on the dinc and on another phone it breaks rm? We aren't the only devices he is working with. I don't even think he owns a dinc.

Before the mod decides to close this thread can we please keep the topic about cm7? If you feel like bashing him. Do it on his twitter.

Sent from my sexy assistant. (HTC Incredible)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xwera43:
Do you actually "format" or just wipe? In Clockwork Recovery select: Mounts and Storage & select "format system". The installation of these Nighty's does not format the system partition/slice as most ROM installations to, they simply write over the data in /system.

Hope that helps.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] RegnierD:
Hahaha! Yup. That's how satisfied I was with it. I'm running 7 now, and if the newest is as rough as they say, I'll wait.

I usually flash a ****-ton of roms though. I don't think there's a rom in this forum I haven't flashed at least once. I try it all. Lol

And in a day or two, I'll be flashing like crazy: I've started a project for the community. :)

I'm a romwhore, and I'm damn proud of it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xwera43:
It's in the browser settings... just a checkbox.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrjinglesusa:
Ditto. I'm sticking with #7 for now. 9 sounds a bit iffy.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Futur Innovations:
Would ClockworkMod 2.5.--- work? I've done everything except wipe data.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] keith.mcintyre26:
This whole day has been a complete waste. Lol.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xwera43:
Interesting. I just mounted build 7 via USB to my MacBook Pro to copy the build 9 ROM over & only the sd card mounted. Anyone, Mac, Windows or Linux getting internal storage to mount via USB?

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] domesdkg:
Where would I find that setting?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wwjdd44:
it is an ADW setting.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RegnierD:
I'm mounting both on WinXP just fine.

I'm a romwhore, and I'm damn proud of it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] keith.mcintyre26:
adw settings> general> system preferences> scrolling cache> disable
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
Worked fine for me. OS X 10.6.6. On occasions though, it won't mount. Regardless of the rom, or even in clockwork. And I have to log out, or restart to get it to work again. Hasn't happend in a while though.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wwjdd44:
I had already installed 9 and can verify it is working on 9 on my Macbook......not what you were asking, but it does work...............I use WebSharing app to do all my transfers, it is just as fast or faster as usb.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] HoochieCoo:
#9 seems fine to me so far... in my exhaustive 30 minute test.... ;-)

But, wifi works, GPS works, bluetooth works. Made a phone call. Checked out gonewild on Reddit. All good.

Can't really say what's different though.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JetBomber117:
http://buildbot.teamdouche.net/builders/cm_inc_full

Says there is a pending build coming later tonight, in about 2.5 hours. May want to wait before flashing 9, especially considering #9's error count.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xwera43:
Thanks for checking.

I'm on 10.6.6 as well. Hmmm.

What web sharing app are you using? Have an info link handy?

Thanks all! :)

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I'm going to see how 9 is panning out before flashing (maybe... nandroid is complete). :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] domesdkg:
I hope so. No idea if it's planned, but if enough people want it I'd better it could be implemented. Anyone else Hurting for this feature?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] domesdkg:
What if I'm using LP?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xwera43:
I'm seeing this:

waiting

1 pending

next in

~ 21 hrs 10 mins

at 00:00

Must not be looking where you see 2.5 hours. Can you post the link please? :)

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] wwjdd44:
it is called WebSharing Lite from the market.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] phaze one:
It would suck balls not to have RM and clockworkmod recovery.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jesssiii:
An extended battery?

I have 4 batteries and rotate as needed. I use the stock & Seidio thin extended for home and short trips around town. I keep the HTC Extended 25xx in my wallet (with the replacement cover) and use the Seidio Extended 3500 (came with a replacement back) for work. I have a car charger, and chargers downstairs, upstairs, & at work.

Using the Seidio 3500 means I don't have to charge no matter how much I use the phone, it lasts all day, period, so the charger at work is overkill. Just the 3500 and an external charger would do fine.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fredderf81:
seriously...to those ppl tho complain....write your own program or stop complaining. you know its like someone who *****es at a restaurant because their steak is 4 degrees too cold. you didnt have to go out shopping at the grocery store FOR the food, you didn't have to PREPARE the food, you didn't have to COOK the food, you didn't have to SERVE the food, and you didn't have to CLEAN UP after the food. so shut up and eat it :P :D

thank u for RM. its a wonderful program.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
DAM!!! How much do you use the phone to justify you need 4 battery's???? I just have one battery and and i charge it twice a day. Over night and during the day at work. (only reason i have to charge it twice is because i run pandora all day.)

We need to have an intervention jesssii. you use your phone way to much.

say this will me. "My name is jesssii and Im a Inc'aholic... :D:D:D:D:D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bencrawfo:
Exactly you can do everything RM does for FREE on your own. If you dont like how RM is built or currently working... DONT USE IT.

And thats not a slam on RM, Koush, clockwork, or anyone. Just saying USERS have the freedom of choice to manage roms through RM or on their own. So please don't complain about all the hard work these guys do, even if you didnt get you $1 worth :rolleyes:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mmuzzy:
You guys who are trying to defend Koush are funny. Try reading the messages next time. No one is disputing that Koush deserves loads of credit for all he does. I bought the program twice and I'm thankful for what he does...

He has a product on the Market, the premium version, that he charges for. He doesn't respond to questions from those who've paid for it.

Is that clear enough for you?

EDIT: And guys, I don't mean a personal email is always required, but some tidbit of a note on his market page that he is aware of issues and is working on them.... something. Again, I appreciate all he does. Again, I appreciate all Koush does. Thank you Koush.

Did I mention I appreciate all Koush does?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
Im trying to say this is not the place to complain about anything but CM7.... we dont need the mods locking this tread due to some people that want to say how the wish the never paid for it.

thats all....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ollie916:
Sorry Master for the slow response.

Maybe the Man can drop everything to answer emails from millions of android users just to please you. Just maybe he is a liittle busy help building the world greatest Rom.

The many users of Cmod will most definitely defend Koush. I am very thankful for his contributions.

Just one last thought, I thought paid apps were to help a dev out for his hard work and not for personalized service.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mmuzzy:
Another example of 'reading is hard'. I'm done with this topic but I've made my point is made.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
lets move on. sooooooo. how is CM7 working out for everyone?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
My tethering is working amazing... I can tether while charging for hours and it doesn't cut out anymore.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mmuzzy:
Agreed. :)

CM7 has been great. So good in fact I'm trying to settle on which launcher and kernel to go with. I'm concerned about SBC kernels because I like to keep it plugged in when I can and I don't want to overcharge. Maybe I should just stick to Slayher's kernel and have a screen off profile in SetCPU. Go Launcher seems like a winner to me though, I like the theming and the folders in the app drawer.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
i ran the SBC for a week and it made my battery run HOT when on the charger. i too leave it on the charger especially at night and i was thinking the same thing. it must have been overcharging. for launcher. i have both adw EX and LPP. i have used Go launcher and Zeam Launcher. and so far my all time favorite is LPP. I have had the least amount of problems with that launcher. But it could be because all the launcher were developed for 2.2 and not 2.3 or from what my understanding is. once 2.3 is on more than one device then I'm sure all the problems will be gone.

Which ones have you tried?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mmuzzy:
If chad had a non-sbc version of his kernel I'd be happy. I have Tiamat 3.3.4 kernel at the moment but there have been reports of excessive battery drain so we'll have to see. I have LPP+, which would be great with the widgets, but the FCs made me twitchy so we have that one on the back burner. ADW was a step in the right direction but the folder restores didn't work.

Because of the folder arrangement in the app drawer, and how slick the management interface is, not to mention the theming, I have to say so far Go Launcher is working the best for me. We'll have to see, it all seems very dynamic right now so that could change tomorrow.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
LOL then how come you sig says LPP ;)

what FC were you getting with LPP? was the one on start up? because someone found a fix for that.

I would like to go back to AWD but every time i tried switching screens it would be all choppy. I got it to the point to where it was normal but i would get FC 3 to 4 times a day. so i switched. i might go back this weekend and see if there were any improvements to the launcher from then to now. but i also like the calender widget from LPP... i wish you could combined the 2. i still have find a replacement calender that i like that is similar to LPP.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kzoodroid:
As has been stated no one was bashing Koush's work just his lack of support. Last year the original version of ClockworkMod for the Eris would actually brick the phone. The threads over there were highly critical of his work, more so than just saying he doesn't support it, even the senior XDA Moderators said to stay away from CWM and RM for the Eris. So I don't see why they would even consider locking this thread over something so silly as to say a Dev doesn't support his work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mmuzzy:
Yeah I had that thought about my sig too just now :) I guess when I settle on what I'm keeping for awhile I'll change it.

Yeah the startup FCs are the ones I'm referring too. I'm sure they'll get it fixed but it just happened a couple days ago and had me thinking I should make sure there wasn't something better. I went to ADW because that was what CM7 has by default. I almost got the pay version until I saw comments about how it hadn't been updated. The folders in GO are REALLY nice. I mean, so nice it'll make the ones in LPP look that much odder if I end up going back to that one.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] byrong:
Chad has fast charging but he does not use SBC in the incredikernel.

I use Chad's incredikernel and love it.

I avoid kernels with SBC.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jesssiii:
Zeam for me, perfect. Lightweight, can add unlimited shortcuts to scrolling dock and with Desktop Visualizer the icons can be customized. Actions set to swipe open dialer, app drawer, expand notifications - don't have to have dialer or drawer on the dock.

And I installed all launchers I've purchased or tried, then went to Titanium and organized by size- Zeam was the smallest. Smooth, no real issues, suits my preferences perfectly. App drawer can be set transparent, too.

DISCLAIMER : I was not paid for this advertisement.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mmuzzy:
Ah ok, I was trying to decipher his changelog and it seemed like he had added in 'fast charging', which I thought was SBC, but then I couldn't figure out if that was one in the same as fast charge isn't necessarily the same as trickle charge.

From his OP:

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02/22/11 - 2 - BETA

New base, based directly on android-kernel-common-2.6.37 + incrediblec-MR3

All the usual stuff (smartass/havs + some extra tweaks)

Yes this has fast battery charging (Fixed in gb-2 and froyo-4, sorry about that)

Working VPN

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Admittedly I found his changes hard to follow though.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Futur Innovations:
I'm using the SPB Mobile Shell 3D :) Its pretty cool and actually seems to make my battery last the same, if not longer, than ADW EX or LPP despite the extra animations and effects
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
O.o a new launcher??? is it in market?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] byrong:
For the low, low price of $15

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1015863
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
i never owned an Eris so i did not know about that. Did he ever fix the problem?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fp99:
wasn't development stopped on this app?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
...... (>.<)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mmuzzy:
I thought so too which was why I didn't try it. I was afraid I'd like it too much and then it would stop working on a future version of something. I like bleeding edge as long as the bleeding eventually stops. ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
i think SBC has to do with how the kernel deals with a full charged phone and how it will lower the incoming volts when its capped and not let the battery drop 10% before the battery charges again( kinda like how if you take the phone off right away it seems to stay around 100 longer then if you left it on)

But i could be wrong. (please no flame)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k_flan:
Tried go launcher after reading this, its very nice. Feels even smoother than ex and the app drawer is awesome.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mmuzzy:
It makes sense, and I think I learned something that should have been obvious to me in retrospect. I just assumed that the SBC kernels were fast charging and trickle charging, not separate entities.

I appreciate that you tried it on my opinion and I'm glad you agree. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
The start up fc fix was from a user not the app by I emailed him and I'm wait on a reply. If you move all your apps from SD to phone you wont get it anymore. I'm sure he will find out why and fix in soon. Its not even fully developed yet. I also sent him a couple of log cats so show why.

Sent from my sexy assistant. (HTC Incredible)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] atpa8a:
I'm running Tiamat 3.3.4 with great results. Chad's probably has insignificantly better battery life. I've noticed battery drains on some previous Tiamat kernels but the latest is very good.

Testing the IncPacker's kernel now and satisfied for now but it's too soon to tell.

It's available from Rom Manager. Couldn't dig out any info on the kernel or the developer tho. If anyone know please share.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] mmuzzy:
I also noticed that Tiamat has just been updated to 3.3.5, giving that a shot now. I saw that IncPacker in RM too. I hadn't heard of it and a google of it didn't give many clues for me either.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] atpa8a:
On the other note... pardon me if this was answered already or if it belongs to another thread...

I keep hearing of powering off the phone [during boot loops] without pulling the battery.

Is they really such a thing?

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
yes.

holding down the power button on top, the optical joystick and volume down at the same time will turn it off in a boot loop.

I get tired of taking apart my phone to get to the battery....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] atpa8a:
Nice! Thanks!

BTW FYI... I'm sure everyone knows...

_adb reboot recovery_ is my favorite when my workstation is available.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] EsrTek:
Seems to have gotten off-topic... but after 10600 post(s) I guess that's normal, however still annoying when trying to find info.

So what is the state of CM 7... have they fixed the wireless/crashing bugs and is wireless tethering fixed??

I really would like to go back to CM7, as this Athena (sense-less) is no where near as good, but has wireless tethering (which is mandatory for my work).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] byrong:
When were there wireless tether crashes/bugs?

I've been using CM7 nightlies since February. Wireless tethering has always worked for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] EsrTek:
wireless is the crashing bug.. tether just never worked at all.. always FC's,

Where the tethering in another ROM works 100% of time.

I know it was fully wiped, dalvik cache and even battery cache each time I upgrade mine.

Maybe I'll try a newer nightly...

(PS- I been running CM7 14, up until about 2 weeks ago for this issue).

What about when having wireless on, the phone doing magical reboots out of blue???
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
Sometimes when you wireless tether the 3g crashes like just craps out that's gone for me now :) I could have sworn I posted this before but whatever.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] byrong:
I have no idea what this means. Wireless is the crashing bug? Are you saying that you can't use wireless at all?

OK, well I'm not sure what is causing your tether to FC, but I do not have that issue. If it was a CM7 issue, I reckon we'd see a lot of people talking about it. On the contrary, it is not a listed "known issue" and I don't see anyone talking about it.

The old #14 (pre-RC) or the newer #14? Either way, definitely try a newer build: that's quite old.

Many weeks back, many of the kernels would reboot the device when the Wi-Fi tried to go to sleep. The workaround on these old versions was to set the Wi-Fi sleep policy to "never."

This problem was long ago fixed, however. The current generation kernels do not have this problem.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
now that i see this. when i run pandora for a long time like 6 hours + sometimes 3g will crap out. if i wait 10 sec or so it will come back on. ( the icon on top completely disappear 1x isn't even there.)

i always thought it was just the cell reception timing out kinda like a router will do sometimes when to much data is streaming.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Futur Innovations:
Mine does the same thing when ever I have more than one device (MacBook, Pod, etc.) tethered at the same time for more than an hour or so. Its super annoying!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
On rc4 its perfect for me. I actually tether to my Xbox and ps3 for online play.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
So, all you people that are "obtaining" Rom Manager Premium for 99 cents... and then telling other people not to complain about 99 cents, that it goes to support the building of cm7 and has nothing to do with supporting Rom Manager... where are you "getting" Rom Manager from?

It is $4.99 in the market, and has never been 99 cents that I know of...

I paid the full price, but if you are getting it elsewhere for 99 cents... something just doesn't seem right.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
mine was 4.99 too.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jesssiii:
Yes, for better or worse. One of it's best features for me is it's lightweight minimalism. You should check out how many people praise that, then, in the same breath ask for more features. So I like to think on the bright side, it works great on Gingerbread and the DInc probably won't go beyond Gingerbread anyway. And if it starts malfunctioning, I'll return to the bloated LPP or ADW EX.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
do you think the cm team will rewrite cm7 for the htc phones when/if gingerbread comes to the phone sometime this quarter???
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fp99:
I will check out the app. I've been on LPP for a long time now and I've gotten used to it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] FramCire:
OK. I have a lot of FC issues and wonky issues every once in a while. I have finally figured out that it is after I hook up to this specific computer and unplug. When I do that I have to reinstall every time. It is a Fujitsu B Series Lifebook. Later today I will try it with my Dell and see if same issues arise.

Also 3.0.0.8 doesnt work for me even with Erase on when I flash 3.0.0.8 3.0.0.7 seems to work perfectly.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
That is quite strange indeed! That laptop must be jealous of your awesome phone!!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Futur Innovations:
Do you actually get enough bandwidth to play cod or crysis and Netflix?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
+1 my desktop fried its motherboard because i use my phone more then it.... (or it had a bad power supply and it shorted) (>.<)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
you have the SPB Shell 3D on your phone!!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bigsapz:
How'd you get SPB on the incredible?

Sent from my Ultimate 2.3.3 Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] AdhvanIt:
It's available in the market.

Whoever said they had it, is it really worth the $14.95?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
It works on the incredible. i bought it this morning and tried it out. i dont like how you cant change the size of widgets also don't like how you cant re arrange icons. they have to go next to each other. so i refunded it.

NO!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] AdhvanIt:
Yup. Just found that out. =P

It really has some amazing potential, but as you noted, those among other issues made me refund....

via CM7 Inc