yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
I don't know, and I don't even know if this is really true or if someone just really exagerrated something. But, if you are using a stock rom, Verizon probably has methods to read the status of the chip security s-on/s-off.

Whether they will actually do so, or do anything about it, only time will tell.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Mr. Spontaneous:
I'm a fan of the compromise bootloading method as demonstrated on the Optimus 2x. The minute you decide you want to unlock the bootloader, it erases the system files and unlocks the bootloader. This means you can get your own recovery loaded and start flashing ROMs, while at the same time ensuring that the OEM's proprietary stuff doesn't go floating out there.

Of course, there are always ways around these locks. I'm saddened every time I see the thread in the NS forum about rooting and unlocking the phone without using fastboot oem unlock. Gives the community a bad name, IMHO.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] FramCire:
I read it and still don't see where they threaten to suspend for rooting. It looks like, if true, they would use the info to stop rooted users from breaking contract. Rooting in itself should not cause a suspension.

Maybe I missed something but I didn't see action just for root. Looked like they were trying to be able to prove root (maybe to void warranty or stop tether )
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
But with phones having locked bootloaders, fastboot probably isn't an option. Why does it sadden you that people figure out how to bypass the locks so that development can continue?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] King Speedy:
I've had this exact problem, and haven't found a solution beyond a reboot.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
Ok, I don't know where I actually read the "suspend" part at.

Anyway, here is this nifty excerpt:

New Security Features:

a. security feature would identify any phone using a tether program to circumvent paying for tethering services.

b. security feature would allow the phone to identify itself to the network if rooted.

c. security feature would be used to track, throttle, and even possibly restrict full data usage of these rooted phones.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bradm23:
Any help with my 3g being extremely slow and dropping to 1x more frequently than I have ever

I've tried *228 option 1 and 2. This is coming from cm6 to cm7 rc4 with a full factory wipe, cache and davlik. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated because my 3g was rock solid before and it was snappy also. This is using Chad's 3/18 kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Flyhalf205:
Update your radio?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
Updating the radio is probably not a good fix. If the radio works on other roms or nightlies, then the radio is fine. Many of us use the official 7.28 radio with no problems. The other radio versions might be a bit faster or slower depending on your area, but the stock radio should work fine.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bradm23:
I have the 9.01 radio
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Mr. Spontaneous:
I was specifically citing instances where people using Nexus phones were figuring out bypasses.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
That radio version should be fine, especially since it has worked well for you already and many people here use that radio version.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] scottjb:
The only way I've been able to fix this is to flash the stock Sense ROM and boot the device. That fixed it for me. I used to lose 3G when loading a MIUI ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] FramCire:
I read it but restricting data is a huge difference from suspending service. Understand that none of this, if true, makes me happy.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Cwoomer:
From what I understand we pay for the phones. we own them outright. we can rip the phone apart into 1000 little pieces and them put it back together and there is nothing that verizon can do about it. because it's mine and I paid for it. end of story. I wish I would get An email saying that my service was getting suspended because they "think"my phone is rooted. love to see how they came to that deduction without compromising my privacy! tethering without paying for the service is one thing but beyond that Verizon should take my overcharged monthly plan payment and shut the f&#@ up about rooted phones. that is of course that this is really true and not just some DB trying to get us all fired up. anyway sorry for the ramble. I will wait for that e mail from verizon and worry about it then.

thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
Right, even if you get the phone free, it is 100% completely yours from day 1. That is why they have the $$$ ETF, to pay out your contract and phone. You don't send the phone back if you get out of the contract early... you just pay the ETF.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
I know, but I did read the word "suspend" somewhere on some article, I just can't find it now. Regardless, hopefully this is all just a bunch of fluff...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
I think it is, im not worried. They could change stuff n make it easier without even worrying about tethering and root if they wanted to.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] keith.mcintyre26:
The hypothetical scenarios are killing me. Is there proof that this has happened to anyone? I'm not trying to be an arse, but I don't know why this subject deserves so much attention.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JetBomber117:
Agreed, especially not in the CM7 thread.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MedleHed:
I'm seeing a #35 in my near future.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 06stang:
My friend has worked for VZW for about 8 years and he hasn't heard about this yet. Really hope its not true and I completely agree with the post saying its my phone I can do whatever the eff I want with it.

I guess we'll just wait and see.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cac2us:
#35

Like I posted over there, if vsw would stop shoving bloatware down our throat & let us use the advertised amount of RAM, we would not need to root our devices.

Back on topic.

#35 downloading now...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v8dreaming:
I kind of liked the duck boot animation. I think I'm going to keep it. hahaha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cannonballgsu:
I have downloaded #35, but it didn't download into the correct location (cwmod, teamdouche, get, inc). I thought it may have not downloaded, but when I tried to download it again, it quickly went to 100%. Any ideas where it could have went?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
That means you should be using one of the Sense mods, not AOSP... I think there would still be a lot of people that want to root regardless of the effeciency of the stock sense rom.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
Why not??? There really isn't much else to post about right now... we are pretty much at a stable place just waiting on some remaining fixes and final...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] J2theMatt:
+1. People are simply airing out grievances. A lot of these people are use to chatting with each other. This build is all but stable.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
#35 Battery Mods Uploaded...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=958651&page=1

:)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xaronax:
Uncapped data?

I'm trying to find the site that someone had that was hosting flashable zips of the uncapped data mod for CM nightlies. He wasn't doing every night, but one every few days. I'm trying to find one for RC4 or a recent nightly.

Thanks. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MMBosstones86:
Check the OP...

QUOTE=xaronax;12639555]I'm trying to find the site that someone had that was hosting flashable zips of the uncapped data mod for CM nightlies. He wasn't doing every night, but one every few days. I'm trying to find one for RC4 or a recent nightly.

Thanks. :)[/QUOTE]
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MedleHed:
The download directory changed after build #34. It is now in a folder called "clockworkmod/download/download.cyanogenmod.com/get".

Now go get your ROM and flash away....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
I was doing those mods, but I stopped when it was confirmed that Verizon does not use that throttling at all. Any throttling that Verizon does is on their end, not on our phones.

Those data mods are useless and do nothing.

If you ever ARE throttled by your phone, you will have a special icon popup to indicate that. No one has ever received that icon popup because the throttling phone-side has never been activated from Verizon.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cannonballgsu:
Thanks, I searched the thread and looked at the first post, but didn't see where the directory had changed. Flashing now!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Homan13PSU:
Flashed #34 last night. Had to reboot once because the lockscreen wouldn't show, other than that smooth as buttah!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] elpeterson:
just started messing with the lockscreens, usually i have PIN unlock and disable the lockscreen. anyone use the lense one? usually on first wake after a reboot AM or PM will show up randomly on the lockscreen, above the white slider.

anyone else getting this?

im on #34 but its been happened since RC4
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Shiftyshadee:
That happens to me occasionally but usually no more than once a day.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] elpeterson:
yeah same here, ok i can deal. just wondered if i was alone. usually a sleep/wake will fix it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 20twins10:
Lost my lockscreen completely. Nightly 34
[Droid Incredible Android Development] baram:
i've been using the lense lockscreen for months and have noticed that. sometimes i'll get random partially transparent boxes too.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ihtfp69:
The fix is easy but I have no clue how to submit a patch, lol. It's been there since rc2 afaik.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] elpeterson:
i dont normally download from ROM Manager because for whatever reason it is always slower. But I decided too because i got the update notification. Second nightly in a row it has just stopped downloading at an arbitrary percentage and going into ROM Manager and cancelling does nothing...

Not something that bothers me because i just wont dl from RM anymore. But has anyone else gotten this?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] al2x:
I usually just get the download notification from RM, download it/gapps straight from there and do the flash manually, has worked perfect for me every time I've used it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MedleHed:
Never have any problems with RM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] elpeterson:
stupid stable cyanogen. this thread is boring now! :mad:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] AdhvanIt:
Care to let us in on it? :)

via CM7 Inc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dunemessiah:
whats the difference between rotary and rotary revamped?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Epicardium:
I couldn't download any nightlies from RM this morning. Kept getting download errors before it would even start. Never had any problems with RM in the past, but had to go straight to the CM web site to download this time. Oh well. Still did my flashing via ROM manager and all went well with #35. So far, so good.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
He's back! Hows the xoom treating you? You making custom Rom's yet?

Sent from my sexy assistant. (HTC Incredible)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Mr. Spontaneous:
Did you update your RM today? Koush pushed out an update to both normal RM and the RM license app, and both need to be update for RM to work correctly.

Yesterday he tweeted that 40% of RM premium installs were pirated. It made me sad.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cowman4000:
Is there an email APK other than the one that comes with CM7 that will work with this ROM? I miss the look and feel of the email app on stock froyo.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JohnKuczek:
He then followed that up with clarification that restores from Ti show up as pirated. So that 40% is less, probably a lot less.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] shoman24v:
Why would you want to back up RM :confused:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] byrong:
For the same reasons a person might be inclined to back up any other app.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
I backup all apps.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rosser725:
Rotary revamped iis silver and rotary is transparent
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JohnKuczek:
Because it is easier to back up everything than to select just what you think you want. At least that way I have everything I could ever need and don't have to restore a nandroid to get one app or some piece of data...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Homan13PSU:
Ditto, one can never be too careful.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Epicardium:
Yeah, I actually updated after the first couple of attempts. Oddly, it updated my premium license, and then I had to re-install the RM program itself. Still didn't work.

I wonder if RM restores through MyBackup Root also show as pirated. If so, my restores probably account for a few percentage points of that pirated number :D

I usually just backup and restore the license since the RM program itself is built in to most ROMs.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
other then supporting the DEV, which i dont mind, i don't see the point to buying premium RM when the nighty's are here on this thread. Is there anything in RM premium that i over looked that i should be using??? do push notifications work again?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ihtfp69:
When you pick the lenses style screen, they hide most everything else. The clock on the normal screen is actually a widget. The problem is they are only hiding parts of the widget instead of the widget itself. I just added code to set the visibility of the clock widget to invisible and the am/pm thing never shows up again.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
i just wanted to share this boot animation i found.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1021516

First horizontal boot animation i have seen.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ihtfp69:
You should check out the xoom forum.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=991086
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
Easy! Just submit it as a bug in the bug tracker, and just explain which lines of which files need to be changed. Let the devs create the patch from your explanation.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
I purchased RM and wish I hadn't. The dev has NEVER responded to any of my issues. I tried email and twitter... they always went unanswered.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SynisterWolf:
nice. i should have said first horizontal for the incredible....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] FramCire:
I had a ton of fc then ended up in bootloop after fix permissions then a reflash. (35)

I seem to have problems after charging on computer (maybe HTC sync? ) anyway. Going to try 35 again after charging. Currently on RC 3 thanks nandroid.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
Try Erase Previous Recovery and install cwm3008
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gonzlobo:
I absolutely agree.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jiggadroid:
Just came over to this ROM from being on miui for a while and really liking it. I used titanium to restore my apps which I've always done for months now without issue. Everything is working fine but for some reason my apps wont show in the market. I tried market doctor and that didn't help. Any suggestions?

Sent from my ADR6300
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jesssiii:
I keep messing around with those transparent custom markets and sometimes end up without any market. What's weird is if I flash nandroids between sense and AOSP sometimes my market will be gone, even though it was there when I backed up. Anyone have as much grief from market as I?

DInc w/ZEAM Launcher

Chad's IncrediKernel
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rcdeck:
Ok, I'm going to prepare to get flamed now... *Grabs his fire retardant shield*

So my battery life isn't horrible, but it's also not great. I'm wondering, what tricks out there are people using to get better battery life out of their CM7 Inc. I am running RC4 right now, with the kernel that it comes with. Are people finding better battery life with a different kernel? My battery life isn't bad, when I don't use my phone much. But if I use it moderately, it's usually dead by 5PM or so and I am scrambling to get it on the charger.

Just looking for any tips anyone else has used. I took setCPU off and figured I would let the OS handle itself. It's not horrible, and I would probably rather have a bit more poor battery life than put setCPU back on.. I guess I am more looking to see if anyone has had better luck with a different kernel.

I have done full wipe, clear cache and everything, still not great.

Thanks for any advice in advance!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] shoman24v:
Idle time is decent on the phone. Using it heavily, like you said kills it pretty quick. Try reducing polling frequency on apps, reduce brightness to none when needed.

I can generally squeeze around 18 hrs on a charge, using it moderately.

Try Chad's kernel, preview 2 is the latest. Set your governor to smartass and your lowest clock speed to MHz (it will run MHz) when on, 128MHz is a screen off speed.

http://chad0989.dyndns.org/incredikernel-preview2.zip
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Dperks88:
My screen is at 25% brightness..sync off...i check my email by just refreshing my gmail..3g off only when i need to check something like twitter or my emails..with the 1750mah seidio battery i get 18-20 hours out of my battery
[Droid Incredible Android Development] shoman24v:
Does anyone have an issue with the KB being slow to go away when pressing the home key?

The app will close before the KB disappears. Anyone have that issue?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
The radio (voice) is a battery hog. While there are battery tweaks for everything else, if you use your phone for talking much... bye bye battery.

Bottom line: talk alot = get a bigger battery
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rcdeck:
Thanks all. Usually my phone just sits at my desk all day while I work and I occasionally use it for checking facebook, xda, market updates and thats about it throughout the day. Occasionally texting and google chat but thats about it and from about 8AM to 5PM it will die :(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cu-n-az:
In my experience, you should use SetCPU with the stock kernel. It doesn't have the Smartass governor, so you will want to set a screen off profile (usually 245- 384 works well).

If you want to try another kernel, I've always had good luck with Chad's. Try his latest. In this case you won't want to install SetCPU since Chad's kernels have smartass built in and will handle screen-off governing internally.

Other well respected kernels include Tiamat's and Invisiblek's. It seems that for some odd reason some phones will have the best results with one while others will see the best result with another. "Your mileage may vary..."

As to tricks, there isn't too much you can do to affect battery life while the phone is awake and running apps, making calls, downloading, etc. The best advantage comes from finding a kernel and proper settings that will sip juice S-L-O-W-L-Y when it's not doing any of those things.

If battery life is truly more important than performance, you can try reducing the max CPU frequency in SetCPU, if you're using it, or CWM Settings if you aren't. Some folks report that the phone isn't perceptibly slower at 884 or even 768 mHz, although the reduced performance would be reflected on benchmarks such as Quadrant.

Finally, Chad's recent kernels (others too? I'm not sure) let you tinker with the kernel's internal voltage tables so you can lower the voltage supplied to the CPU to the lowest your particular phone can tolerate at any given CPU frequency. Personally, I haven't delved too deep into that as I get the results I need from either the stock kernel with a screen off profile in SetCPU or with Chad's kernels as supplied.

Hope this helps...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cu-n-az:
Sounds like you have something running in the background that's ill-behaved. Check Spare Parts and see what's been using the battery.

Also, when my phone is sitting on my desk, I generally plug it in to the computer's USB port and let it top off --- just a thought.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] byrong:
Get a spare charger for your desk. If the phone is just sitting on your desk for most of the day, there's no reason not to plug it in.

Beyond that, the advice already provided on kernels and settings has been sound.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rcdeck:
I do leave it plugged in sometimes but weekends when I'm out all day and not using it its the same story. What should I look for in spare parts?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] AdhvanIt:
Just what I needed to know. Thank you!

via CM7 Inc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cu-n-az:
Open Spare Parts, go to Usage Statistics, view Sort by Usage Time.

The things using the most CPU will be at the top of the list. Look for something that seems like it's using a lot of CPU relative to the amount that you use it. It may signal a bad app or one with bad settings selected (do you REALLY need your weather widget to refresh every 10 seconds? :) )

Beyond that, just see what the big draws are and look for ways to eliminate them, slow them down, etc.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rcdeck:
XDA 562854

LPP 164710

Settings 129685

Contacts 103434

Facebook 55200

Market 34719

Are my top 6
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lioryte:
It's not RM. Its the building process. If u remember u were able to get this to work with gridlock's and it's an option again on RC4. I really don't think this feature is needed right now anyhow. NVM, thought u might wanna know... Leave Britney Koush alone! :p
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
What are you even talking about?????? Get what to work???? What option in RC4?????

Your post has nothing to do with the developer of RM not responding to paying users...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wakeboard143:
Sounds like he is talking about cm7 not registering with rm for update notifications. Whoosh!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] userjf:
Well, ok... if that is what he is talking about, then the devs are already working on that. In fact, that particular issue is a 7.0 blocker. 7.0 final will not be released until it is fixed. So, I'm not concerned about that issue.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wiobyrne:
Regarding the use of the stock kernel and SetCPU, as opposed to Chad's... what are people getting the best battery life & performance out of. I know it depends on the user, phone & setup... but I've been trying to get the best combination.

To help me better understand, what am I gaining/losing between using either Chad's, stock & SetCPU.... or some other combo I haven't thought of?

Because I don't speak up often... thanks to the community... and CM7 developers.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kzoodroid:
Yep Koush don't respond to emails or pm's. I even went to his website last year with a question on ROM Manager for the Eris and never got a response. I guess you get what you pay for, i.e. I paid $0.99 for the premium ROM Manager and I'm getting $0.99 worth of help from the dev. This just helps people justify why its okay to steal apps instead of paying for them.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k_flan:
People do realize koush has done more than just make rom manager, right?