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[EVO 4G Android Development] dkdude36:
thanks thats helpful. and also, you can always just post the non-sbc kernels directly on the xda, cant you?
[EVO 4G Android Development] dkdude36:
oh and one more stupid question... does this work on the latest cm7 wimax 6? i would love to have such a good kernel and wimax at the same time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bwcorvus:
Yes out does.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bwcorvus:
I charge overnight with sbc :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] dkdude36:
YES! thanks i will flash as soon as somebody tells me how to disable sbc.
[EVO 4G Android Development] freeza:
me too. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] dkdude36:
i already had one battery die completely on me because of sbc. not taking my chances...
[EVO 4G Android Development] thegame2388:
Which ones are the froyo builds?
[EVO 4G Android Development] kellybrf:
and for those of us who havent registered yet...?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NyghtGT:
That's beautiful widgets temp. notification ...
[EVO 4G Android Development] cmart4:
the kernal will say if its Froyo or GB
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
no notification.... thats why we made our forum, we have mailing list we can mass mail our users... as we said we will update XDA but our priority is our own site.
[EVO 4G Android Development] VisedMonk:
I'm just curious -- not calling you out or anything like that. How do you know it was SBC that caused your battery to die? I've never seen any direct proof that SBC harms batteries.

I've been flashing one version of SBC or another since ms first released it and I've had no problem whatsoever.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dkdude36:
no proof... just dont want to take any more chances. it was probably a combination of sbc, the heat of california, always being in my pocket, and charging overnight. still, sbc is on that list, and it is the one i can easily get rid of.
[EVO 4G Android Development] VisedMonk:
Fair enough. Makes sense to me. We don't have to worry about heat here in Michigan, but rather our batteries getting too cold. I left my phone in my car last winter when the temperature in my garage dropped to 15 and my battery was never the same.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aph:
Anything similar for battery percentage?
[EVO 4G Android Development] lokitoorg:
Lag when turning screen on

I been using 2 of the latest kernels and both of them are having a 3 seg lag every time i power on the phone screen, i had set cpu installed but i disable it for the testing and still see the same thing. there are the kernels details, am using MIUI 1.2.19 Hardware V 003. before i was using Savage-Kernel-v1.6-BFS-HAVS-WiMAX-SBC with no problems, battery was not super great but not bad, and i see everyone is talking good about 0.0.9 for battery life. I always perform a cache format and davilk.

SavagedZen-0.0.9-BFS-HAVS-WiMAX-FROYO-signed.zip

MD5: e2851c2ee1c2a8785a5f7527fbd30373

SavagedZen-0.0.9-CFS-HAVS-WiMAX-FROYO-signed.zip

MD5: 5ff5d56c7ee53fa7cf93f8df6cdbb4e7
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
I said it once and I'll say it again. For Stock/1500 mAh batteries, I don't think SBC is such a great idea if you're cautious. But if you're using an extended battery, SBC helps out a lot because it will fill up the battery all the way. I was once able stay on 100% for 3 hours with light usage on my 2600 mAh battery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NyghtGT:
To answer your first question I use a stock battery. Secondly search the market for battery status bar / notification...something is bound to come up...
[EVO 4G Android Development] m4xwellmurd3r:
Mine discharges as well. But usually only -5 to -15mV it charges all the way to about 4mV

Sent from my evo 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] dkdude36:
ok, can somebody please tell me how to remove sbc? i dont see it on the forums yet (actually, i cant get on the forum right now. i think its down).
[EVO 4G Android Development] NyghtGT:
Might just be how I do, but I wipe cache and dalvik, flash my ROM again, flash kernel and never have issues...

P.s. Anyone who looked at my battery stats, that's the v5 bfs nohavs nosbc kernel...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
You can't remove SBC, it's baked into the kernel. Download the version without SBC. Visit the mirror in the first post. Download the ones that say "NoSBC" in them. It also says "SBC: Yes/No" in the "SBC" column.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ageesm:
The point is that they are no longer supporting non-sbc builds. They didn't feel there was enough demand. They were going to post a tutorial on how to remove it from the kernel, which hasn't been posted yet...he was curious if someone else could offer assistance I believe. The last one that has non-sbc builds are the 0.0.5 kernels.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
The responsible thing to do would be to create non-SBC builds as well. If you remember the SBC thread fiasco from a month ago (or more?), I was arguing that SBC should exist, as long as there is a warning label and non-SBC versions.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
If you don't charge pass 100%, you won't get the SBC effect. Once you get the green light unplug it.

I used an app in the market call eco charger it monitors the batt charge and temp.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xhazyx:
I agree that it should say SBC in the thread title... So that everybody is warned

But I understand their decision to drop non-SBC builds - it's just more to deal with - since there's more demand for SBC.
[EVO 4G Android Development] umbra6:
Why would this be responsible? It's each persons choice on whether to flash this kernel or not. They're the developers and they can do whatever they want. If anyone doesn't like this fact, well, compile your own kernel instead of being spoonfed.

FYI...this isnt an rant on you F(RED)...I just had to quote something to post. I just keep seeing people whining about developers not including something in this or that. We are lucky to even have devs that create these things or anything for that matter for us.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lokitoorg:
I ran the format-all.zip and still the same thing, do you get good battery life with your current kernel? do you mind posting the tread to the kernel you are using?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
Nah, it's fine. Everyone's entitled to an opinion. It's just that, the kernel is great, whether or not you use SBC. But some people just don't want the risk associated with SBC even though they love the kernel. I think it's pretty reasonable to have both versions. And I'm saying this now, please, let's not start another flamewar.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tom1l21:
*flame war averted*

In all seriousness, my wifi seems to be working normal now. I think 0.9 cfs has a split personality.
[EVO 4G Android Development] pardonmyownage:
why does it feel like my linpack and quadrant scores are really low using this?

also, whats up with the sv.org site?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NyghtGT:
Version 5, BFS, noHAVS, noSBC, Gingerbread: http://mirror.munkibizness.com/dl.php?id=31&device=ss

And as far as the non-SBC builds...i'm not one to tempt fate with my phone,

anymore, so i'd rather not find out if the sbc builds are problematic to the battery

or not.

However, I will be compiling a BFS noSBC GB for myself each version, which I will

make available on the mirror. Keep in mind I have no knowledge of the kernel itself

other than following a tutorial to compile the code...so support, if any, will be

minimal on the builds I compile.
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
Build 31 is

SavagedZen-0.0.5-BFS-NOSBC-WiMAX-GB-signed.zip

MD5: 68c5cc57e6eb8a1a869616dc92ba914b

so it would have "Havs"
[EVO 4G Android Development] raul602:
all,

Sorry if this has been answered already, I have searched but i guess i fail at searching,

does the new 0.0.9 CFS HAVS FROYO kernel use SBC? I see some of the older builds clearly advertise SBC but none of the newer ones do......

Again sorry if this is clearly stated somewehre
[EVO 4G Android Development] NyghtGT:
Thanks for correcting me...either way, i'm paranoid as hell about the SBC builds

because I let my phone charge at night...and i'm highly situated around my phone

for the daily use...replacing a battery is definitely, not within my budget.

All builds are SBC, unless clearly stated they are not in the filename.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dkdude36:
dude, PLEASE send me these. this is just what i have been looking for. i'll try the tutorial once the forum is back up. thanks a bunch
[EVO 4G Android Development] raul602:
HAHHAHAHAHAH i did this exact same thing LOLOLOL glad i wasn't the only one, quick question does v9 have sbc? I was getting OUTSTANDING battery life with v5 SBC and v9 doesn't say it has sbc on it anymore.
[EVO 4G Android Development] raul602:
thank you for the quick response, this has been confusing me since v5, i had great battery life but left it because my wifi wasn't working (my dumbass flashed the GB version instead of froyo one for MIUI)

im ****ing stoked to try out the new v9 version
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
Just curious, what the hell is the SavagedZen CPU governor?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
Its a modified version of the smartass governor. Works quite well IMO
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
Weird. Because when I observe it in SetCPU, it just jumps between 245 and 998, working more like OnDemand. I'm looking for a combination of smoothness and battery life. I guess ill try SavagedZen governor then. Im going to remove SetCPU and just set it from the performance menu.
[EVO 4G Android Development] iatros56:
Someone help me out here...I have Seidio's 3500 battery and had it on the first day the EVOs came out....had it pre-ordered. I've been running SBC with Zen when it first became available.

I use Battery Monitor Widget to monitor charging/discharging. When I reach 100%, I watch the trickle charging begin. It slowly works its way down to +6mA throughout the night. When I unplug, I stay at 100% for at least 1 to 2 hours - depending on my usage.

With 0.0.9 - either with BFS or CFS - (5 min increments) at 99%, it's at +234 mA; at 100%, it's +123 mA, every five minutes later and still on the charger, this is what I get: -167 mA, -142 mA, -120 mA, ...all the way down to -54 mA. Then, it bounces back up to -283 mA. It's not trickle charging for me. When I pull it off the charger. It drops to 95% within 5 minutes.

I'm using CM7-RC1. If I flash back to 0.0.5, everything is back to the way it used to be.

Any ideas - other than going back to 0.0.5?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
I would like no SBC too. And possibly no havs

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
I was planning to compile a cfs non SBC, are they going to post the tutorial when they are back online?
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
SBC DOES NOT CHARGE PAST 100%

sent from my Savaged-zen Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrvirginia:
i just wanted to say that SavagedZen-0.0.9-CFS-HAVS-WiMAX-GB is the best kernel i've ever ran on my Evo. thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
Flashed the 009 bfs kernel this morning and now my power button is dead. Anybody else see this yet? Running MIUI rom at the moment and was on 006 no problems.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Kernels

As far as it stands for right now.

We are only making a BFS and CFS version of GB kernels and a CFS and BFS version of froyo kernels.

I personally feel that we should only make 1 Froyo kernel for Muiu users as the market is being moved to GB with the CM& RC1 and how 2.2 is no longer being developed.

We see NO benefit for SVS vs our HAVS... only plus's.. So as of now, we have no desired to release a SVS version as HAVS does AVS and SVS combined.

SBC does not charge past 100% i havent [ersonally seen any proof but conjecture about it ruiing batteries. All of our team and mods are using SBC for MONTHS and have had no issues at all, and we are all on stock batteries. Due to this, we choose to have the SBC mod in our kernel.

Brandon has created a build script for building our kernel. Its on our forums, which is still down as we move hosting providers. nothing is gone just shut off.

To use the stock battery_htc.c and not SBC its a simple option in the kernel config, so when you build... just uncheck tickle and check the normal.

Our code is open source, its on github, and we've provided instructions on how to build it. You all can change or configure it however you wish, we actually promote you having fun and trying to build your own.

When we first started Savaged-Zen we had 16 Builds each release 8 Builds evo and 8 Builds Inc. This is just too much to do. We havent got too many donations so 90% of the hosting and software fees come out of my pocket. and an enormous amount of personal time is spent on this kernel for all you guys and girl to enjoy.

Sorry i have been extreamly busy at work, and then at home working the chris and anthony on getting the new site/forum and buildbot online. Luis is on a LOA from the group for personal reasons, which we hope he will be back soon. So kernel development is on Brandon and I and he's been taking the blunt end of it for the past week or 2 while i work with Anthony on the site, and chris with the buildbot as well as getting gerrit/git working the way we want.. and trying to get a good ROM repository online so we can start building our rom (working with preludedrew on this) as well as working on an app.

Anyway thats the status on whats going on. So please all CHILL about the SBC issue, theres a thread for that, as well we are providing instructions and have been putting in countless hours working on getting everyone satisfied on this free kernel... Once someone starts building non-SBC or SVS versions, they can send them to us, we'll test them, and post them... they can be in charge of building those versions... fine with me. We just dont have the time for 16+ builds... sorry guys.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Thank you!
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
power button is dead? sounds like a hardware defect.
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
could be a coincidence. trying to fix now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HDRules:
I am currently trying out SZ 009 on the latest MIUI - no problems with the power button.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 94tbird:
it was a bad battery, not SBC that did that. 3+ months on the same battery all with SBC and loving my battery life.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aimbdd:
Same here. battery is perfect.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
I have been using sbc since Luis modified the cm kernel, I haven't had any problems. This kernel works well with my phone and the work the devs are doing is amazing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bwcorvus:
This usually happens if something is wake locking your phone. 9 is charging for me as its suppose to. Next time it happens check spare parts.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bwcorvus:
I actually run it on a stock battery and a cheap 3500 eBay battery :p.

That being said,

HOW DARE YOU TELL US WHAT YOU ARE BUILDING.

As the person buying this product...wait i don't buy it. As the person using this product for donations...wait nope not that either. As the consumer that puts in hours of hard work to help...**** screw it i give up
[EVO 4G Android Development] zmag:
I personally feel that the SBC version will NOT harm the battery. Everyone has an internal fear of the unknown; and when this whole SBC versus non-SBC controversy was introduced, I think a few posts of people's opinions stating "DO NOT USE" has scared people into thinking that this will make your battery explode, or at the very least decrease battery life over time. Every phone I've ever owned, the battery life decreased WITHOUT even having the option to use a different kernel. Sorry for the rant, but I think until some definitive proof that using SBC will cause serious harm to your phone/battery, just be happy that there are a group of people out there willing to help you make your battery life/performance, (for lack of a better word), better (as in better than stock)... for FREE! I will admit I too used non-SBC out of fear at first, but if you're that cautious, you wouldn't have rooted/flashed custom roms in the first place! There's risks in everything we put into our phone, but I'm not willing to take someone's word for it and a few pics of melted phones to stop me from making my phone better than it can be. Thank you Savaged-Zen team! I wish more people would appreciate the hard work (and money) you put into this!
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
Savage. 09 is a beast great work

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G Android Development] m4rk0358:
Anyone try .09 on the nightlies?
[EVO 4G Android Development] aimbdd:
Speaking off...

enjoy ;)

If you guys use this kernel as your daily you should donate if you can!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
Alright, so I like the Conservative governor because I don't have to use SetCPU to make the phone run @ 245 MHz when the screen goes off since it will do it on its own. But I like the responsiveness of Smartass. Someone said SavagedZen governor was a tweaked version of Smartass. How are they different? I'm just trying to maximize battery life and keep the phone running smooth.
[EVO 4G Android Development] iatros56:
I'll take a look and see what I find. But, wouldn't I have the same wake lock issue with 0.0.5 if everything else being the same (ROM, GAPPS, etc)? ) Version 0.0.5 trickle charges just fine past 100%. But, as soon as I flash 0.0.9 and look at the battery widget it's in discharge mode.

I'll let you know what I find out with spare parts. I appreciate your suggestion.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dblock3nine:
On Conservative governor using SetCPU (Min:422 Max:1036) the most I gotten was 17 hours on MIUI and using SavageZen governor the most I'm getting is 11+ hours on CM7 (I use CM7 settings to set CPU speeds to Min:245 and Max:1036). I had about 20% battery life left in that pic (CM7 one) below. When I was using MIUI I had Savage-Zen v0.0.5 and now I'm using v0.0.9. I know with Savagezen governor u also don't need a screen off setting but I can't remember all the differences.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chaotik:
does wifi work on this with cm7?
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
LOL... yea i just had to say it.. i find it funny that i offer up for otheres to help and build these versions they demand... but no one takes me up on it...
[EVO 4G Android Development] dblock3nine:
With version v0.0.9 I have no issues with Wifi.
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
Not yet anyway :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrvirginia:
yeah but i'm having an issue with the newest nightly #4. phone won't charge when connected to computer while it's on. phone has to be off :confused:
[EVO 4G Android Development] aimbdd:
i would help :P but i don't know how.
[EVO 4G Android Development] brokentoaster24:
Does the latest builds have v8 or v7 sbc? I notice that sbc is working with positive mah's when charging over night...but I just pulled my phone off the charger less than 15 minutes ago and I've already dropped to 92%
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
I am planing to help, once your site is up. I am going to read the tutorial and dive in.

I'm assuming a linux box is necessary.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dblock3nine:
Thanks for heads up, I'm on build 3 and was just about to update. Do you have this issue when you reboot your phone your apps disappear but the storage space is still taken up? Maybe its just my phone, it happens to me on all CM7 builds.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrvirginia:
scratch that. i wiped batt stats and it's working fine now :D

no. my apps are still there. but then again, i'm on build 4. i jumped from 1 to 4. i typically jump builds and usually only flash on fri/sat (because i tweak a lot of crap) but there were some GPS commits
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
yup

just google instructions on how to compile a kernel for EVO.. then get the compiler....

clone our repo

run the export commands on the instructions....

copy one of the EVO- configs to the root of the repo as .config

run make menuconfig

and then go through the options to select GB or not, or BFS/CFS or trickle charging or not.

then make

then copy the modules into a zip... under the lib/modules directory and the zimage into the kernel directory

delete the manifest and keys... resign and your done.

or you can just wait for the forum to get back up and you can use brandons script :-p
[EVO 4G Android Development] dblock3nine:
I'm going to give build 4 a try, only thing I could guess is causing the issue is maybe because I install Darktremor 2.7.5.3 Beta 04 for a2sd ext3 support. I never really had GPS issues as long as I do that GPS fix (sense rom trick) before I flash a new build.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
I'm going to try it tonight, will let you know how it goes.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrvirginia:
yeah sounds like Darktremor is the issue.

i don't have any GPS problems since the sense rom trick either regarding accuracy/tracking, but before GPS would stay on longer in notification area than it should. has been a lot better since build 1 though. still takes a few seconds after i back out of the app though so was hoping newest build would kill it almost instantly after leaving whatever app was using it
[EVO 4G Android Development] jimbobtexas:
Dang.

Just flashed v0.0.9, and Handcent is FCing every time I try to open/create/send a message. Anyone else, and/or a fix/workaround? Thanks.

jr
[EVO 4G Android Development] aimbdd:
doesnt sound like a kernel issue. did you wipe properly?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
Someone answered me before, sorta. If anyone can answer this for me, it'd be greatly appreciated:

What is the difference between smartass and savagedzen? I use my phone for texting, web browsing, music and phone calls. I have a 2600 mAh battery that works alright, and definitely better with 0.9 SBC GB. But now I'm trying to decide on something smoother than Conservative. So Smartass or SavagedKernel and why? Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jimbobtexas:
Wiped cache and Dalvik cache. Anything else I should be wiping? :confused:
[EVO 4G Android Development] eventer289:
I've seen this question posed but not answered. The SBC of the current 0.0.9 kerenels seems strange. It doesn't seem to charge like previous versions do. Has something changed?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jimbobtexas:
I repeated the process. Wiped & flashed. Same result. Going back to Nandroid backup. :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] jimbobtexas:
Definitely the kernel. Going back fixed the issue. Anyone else have problems with Handcent 3.7.5 and this v0.0.9 kernel?
[EVO 4G Android Development] aph:
Yes, works great
[EVO 4G Android Development] bwcorvus:
I run both, no problems here.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Not the kernel I use it never a problem... a kernel will not make an app fc....

sent from my Savaged-zen Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] NyghtGT:
Kind of tired of saying this over and over, BUT:

The best process from personal experience when flashing custom kernels is as follows:

1. Don't be an idiot, do a NANDROID.

2. Wipe Cache and Dalvik.

3. Flash your current ROM.

4. Flash the kernel.

5. Reboot

This process has been failsafe for me since Myns RLS2, Cm6, all the savaged / zendroid kernels, snap turbo, etc...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
Well duh lol. If you flash the kernel before the ROM, the kernel will be replaced with whatever the ROM comes with.