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[EVO 4G Android Development] danweb66:
so if I am on the latest cynogen nightly and have an 3500extbattery what would be better cfs or bfs?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xhaui:
No one can really tell you which will work best on your phone. Some phones don't like BFS, others do. You need to just test both out and see which gives you better results.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Techronico:
Does it have Tigerblood?
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
BFS is all-around better in my opinion for desktops. The only issue with our phones is that the way tasks are niced in the android system is cfs-optimized rather than bfs-optimized.

BFS has come a long way though and with a few tweaks that are in this kernel, the lag is minimized. And in addition, BFS also gets higher in the benchmarks and, in theory, it should get better battery life.

I often mix it up, im running 2.0 CFS now, the responsive feel is unbeatable for everyday usage.
[EVO 4G Android Development] reverepats:
hey what exactly is the TIGERBLOOD if u dont mind me asking.....did i see the in the KERNEL MANAGER APP?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Apo11on:
there is no straight answer for this - it depends on what you use the phone for. Brain **** Scheduler's focus is to help out with a single, CPU intense operation, giving you the best performance for it, like a 3D game...

CFS gives you smoother overall performance, not necessarily best benchmarks and it won't beat BFS in CPU intense operations. Imho, CFS gives you better battery life, but that experience may vary...

As far as extended batteries go - AFAIK, neither CFS or BFS have any impact on it - the only thing you need to make sure of is that you get a SBC kernel. It has trickle charging and uses the full mAh cells capacity of extended batteries.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Kernel Manager

We are installed and updated in kernel manager, until the mirror is updated, you can grab it from there!
[EVO 4G Android Development] twiz0r:
Boo kernel manager, ill wait for mirror

Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
+1 boo kernel manager, its for turds just like rom manager.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
lmfao you all be nice
[EVO 4G Android Development] reverepats:
thanks man.....hunting for it now....much appreciated
[EVO 4G Android Development] twiz0r:
You sir are correct. Have a wonderful day.

Btw I'm very excited for 2.0.0, just kinda pissed at myself for not nanding before I flashed 41, now I'm stuck with high android system usage

Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Hey jsseidel have you guys heard about this? Could this be used in your kernel to give our evo's some nexus s smoothness!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=981125
[EVO 4G Android Development] reverepats:
i got an error in KM....LOL.....sorry man.....telling me it fails to dum the boot image and asks me if im already running a SZ kernel and it cant flash it cause of that....no biggy....i can just wait for the miror

actaully Km downloaded it to my card.....ill just flash it from there
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
our rom's base is from 2.3.3_r1, check it out with the 2.0 kernel... you'll see the smoothness ;-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
yea i dunno about that, im trying to get ahold of shinzul.

flash into recovery, in your SD, there will be a kernel-manager folder, in there Savaged-Zen Team and the Zip will be in there
[EVO 4G Android Development] xhaui:
It's a known issue with SZ kernels. He just put it on KM manager so we could atleast download it and flash it ourselves.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Apo11on:
kernel description in kernel manager says "undervolt, underclock" - did you put "underclock" on purpose, or is it just a typo?
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
whoops... fixed
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
+1
[EVO 4G Android Development] Techronico:
Tigerblood is the fix for HDMwIn users who had reboot errors when connecting to certain TVs. Apparently some TVs have an incompatability with the HDMI software or something like that. I heard somewhere that it is HTCs fault. #blamehtc #thankvividboarder
[EVO 4G Android Development] Apo11on:
@ daweiteh

sorry for off topic post.

when you put your evo with that 4500mAh battery in the pocket - do you lean sideways when you walk? I mean, that capacity is bigger than any 10 inch tablets i've heard of!
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
I believe you I'm already a fan of the work you guys do! Cant wait,but mr sir please no force me to use teamwins km :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
lmfao... im attempted to move some scripts to the snipa buildslave we have, and am running the buildbot builds from there, hoping this will work... the repo is about 500mb... so its not a superfast inital pull from github's servers....

there moving...

http://buildbot.savaged-zen.org/builders/EVO-CFS-HAVS/builds/3

http://buildbot.savaged-zen.org/builders/EVO-BFS-HAVS/builds/4
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
+1

I'm not planning on using km at all.

Just waiting patienly for the kernel to appear on the mirror system.

Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Yeah I'm waiting also. 1.1.0 CFS has been perfect for me I can only imagine what 2.0 is going to be like. 2 things that will NEVER live on my phone: rom manager, kernel manager(got my reasons). Good day sir!
[EVO 4G Android Development] bjb_nyj101:
So this kernel is SBC-only now? I want to try it, but don't want sbc... Only the older versions have a nonsbc option.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
If you look a couple of pages back, you will find a post on how to turn off sbc.

I have been using sbc for a while with no problems.
[EVO 4G Android Development] reverepats:
Yeah thats exactly what I did......finny cause my battery Icon still shows its full
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
LMFAO... guys we implemented Sysfs for SBC.. its one kernel, you can turn it on and off on the fly... brandon even made zip's that set them
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Temp Links

http://downloads.zen-kernel.org/zendroid/SavagedZen-2.0.0-CFS-HAVS-WiMAX-GB-signed.zip

http://downloads.zen-kernel.org/zendroid/SavagedZen-2.0.0-BFS-HAVS-WiMAX-GB-signed.zip

http://downloads.zen-kernel.org/zendroid/sbc_off-signed.zip - turns SBC off

http://downloads.zen-kernel.org/zendroid/sbc_off-reset-signed.zip - resets to the kernel default (in our case, turns it back on)

FYI, these links are only temp... until the mirror is updated
[EVO 4G Android Development] 12MaNy:
Do I have to turn SBC off everytime I reboot?
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
the above zip's you flash and it sticks... or you use our rom, and use the UI
[EVO 4G Android Development] Arrogant49:
Why the hate on rom manager and kernel manager? Cool apps and good ideas... This kernel is sick by the way good job guys donation incoming:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] 12MaNy:
Cool, thanks. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] danielt14:
ok i just did a nand restore to CM 6.1.2 with Savage Kernel 1.6 and my wifi is broke i am going to down grade right now to an earlier Radio and wifi and see if that works. and to let you know my HW Rev is 0003
[EVO 4G Android Development] thedarksavant:
Read up on the SBC thread(s) or stay away from them. You get a little more battery life and the satisfaction of waking up to a 100% charged phone at the implied risk of overheating your battery.

I've been using it fine for the last few weeks. I did my due diligence so I'm not that worried.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Radios don't effect wifi

Try a sense rom with no custom kernel. If wifi doesn't work your hw is probably defective. Do a ruu and see if it works. If not go to a sprint store.

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] asqwrd:
does this fix the sd card not mounting on pc?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Make sure you read a lot okay? We don't want your house in fire. Its a better safe then sorry. I believe that HTC isn't stupid and if they put it in the phone, then there's a reason for it.

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] danielt14:
Nah i have faith in this EVO just a little TLC and Flash here and there it will be fine. maybe... :o
[EVO 4G Android Development] cowboyboats:
Running CM7 and the latest beta CFS-HAVS-SBC-WiMAX the usb continuously connects, disconnects then reconnects
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
I hope you didn't make the bfs for me specially! Sorry guys you really do great great work :D

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
You never know! Don't worry though the replacement should be free for you unless you caused the wifi tto break

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigirb2002:
How cansbc be dangerous when the batteries have overcharging protection chips in them
[EVO 4G Android Development] correnos:
Question: what is the definition of "SBC"? I gather it's some method of battery charging, perhaps to lengthen battery life, but could someone clarify?
[EVO 4G Android Development] bwcorvus:
SBC doesn't stop charging. Once you battery gets to 100%, it slows down the charge until you are getting the same use/charge to keep your battery at 100% until you pull it off the charger. "Some" people have claimed it damages batteries, but no one has proven it has actually hurt their phone or battery.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=876590
[EVO 4G Android Development] danielt14:
I get a 404 error with the CFS-HAVS-noSBC-WiMAX.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Android 17:
CFS noSBC link seems to be broken.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
I have it. Anyone want me to email them it?

And I am done trying to protect people by bringing up my SBC argument. Use it as you wish. Its no coincidence that all 8 had SBC. And a couple of them were well respected members. If you accidentally keep it on the charger, better start praying.

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigirb2002:
O wow i kept mine on all night didnt know tjere was a issue
[EVO 4G Android Development] rain91:
Just installed latest kernel, default governor is now On Demand?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Prodigyofwealth:
These kernals never work well with Virus Air Bourne Roms, whenever I got to charge the charging icon turns staticly, meaning black lines are going on and off while charging not normal. I also notice even while not charging, the charging meter has brick lines in the charging bar..
[EVO 4G Android Development] driguez:
Had rotation skewed earlier today, reboot fixed it. Also went to play homerun 3d and the phone just went black, would not boot up past the white screen until cleared cache and dalvik
[EVO 4G Android Development] driguez:
Isn't virus sense?
[EVO 4G Android Development] rsatmans:
Massive issues have developed for me with 2.0 kernel... heading back to 1.1...
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Whoa I'm reporting back with some terrible problems after flashing the 2.0 cfs version. My phone got stuck, once I got passed the cm7 boot up ani it went crazy. I have a passcode lock and soon as I pressed one # it vibrated and the vibrations didn't stop then it just rebooted lol. I don't have the "set on boot" option checked in the cm7 settings. :eek: I guess ill try again. Also the little sdcard icon that you see when first booting up never went away.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
no problems with the SZ rom here.. maybe you should give it a shot man....
[EVO 4G Android Development] welrope:
Are you using the rc3 version of SZ rom? If so can you give a link?

Thanks and look forward to taking your rom for a spin. CM has been way to buggy, hate sense, so i have been using UD's rom "pretty damn tight", but would love a smooth, stock aosp rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Ohhh you better believe I have it on nandroid, I'm just on cm7 because a nightly came out lol. I like to switch it up every now and then.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
i always use the latest build... i code it lol.

Yea look on the rom thread... just posted a link to todays rendition... will only work for 1hr and 42 more min...
[EVO 4G Android Development] cLOUDFAn:
so far so good with sz 2.0 cfs (cm7 final)

was having 100% awake problem with 1.1

now it's solved
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Im not trying to hijack this thread with all my post but something is really going on. 2.0 cfs and 2.0 bfs both are freezing at startup like they are booting soon as I slide the unlock screen my phone reboots on both. Im on 0004(Nova) by the way. Had to switch back to 1.1.0.
[EVO 4G Android Development] welrope:
Thanks for all you do! it is very much appreciated. Does the rc3 have the newest 2.0 kernel, or do i need to flash it after flashing the rom and gapps?

Thanks again and looking forward to the test drive!
[EVO 4G Android Development] CrazyTechnoBoy:
This might seem like a dumb question, but what is CFS, BFS, HAVS, and SBC.

I'm using CM7, so which one would you guys recommend?
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
All the info you need!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=894880
[EVO 4G Android Development] davidc23:
Did you wipe DC +C before and after u install the kernel and what rom are you on?
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Well the koush any kernel script should wipe if for me, but I do it again just to be sure. I'm on cm7 and I've tried both 2.0 downloads that were posted few pages back.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rockky:
Keep flashing 2.0.0 Bfs on my Evo but cfs keeps showing up on the device.

Suggestions?
[EVO 4G Android Development] icepuente:
I also have the issue that some others are having with the latest 2.0 update. I am currently running CyanogenMod 7 Nightly 41 and flashed the latest kernel update. Immediately after booting, the entire phone locks up and eventually it comes up with the message that something has stopped working either launcherpro or adw launcher. I press force close and launcherpro restarts and it appears as everything is working. Then I try to run some application and everything locks up again. I then tried to fix permissions and that did not help at all. After I decided to do a full wipe of my phone and reinstall CM 41 and the latest kernel. I still get the same problems and for now will try to go back to the latest stable kernel version. And btw I downloaded the kernel from the kernel manager application.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Android 17:
Anyone try 2.0.0 with CM 7 Final? Perhaps something in Nightly 41 is messing with the kernel?
[EVO 4G Android Development] sdsoundguy:
working fine on cm7 final

Not having any problems here on cm7 final so might be an issue with the nighties haven't been running it that long but so far smooth as butter I will update if there are any changes.
[EVO 4G Android Development] buzzwyzr:
Using this on MIUI 1.4.15 with no problems so far.

Thank you for all the hard work!
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
If you get a reboot, please shoot a /proc/last_kmsg my way
[EVO 4G Android Development] drdrewdown:
are the latest CM commits included in the 2.0 update?
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
Everything in the new CM unified tree (https://github.com/CyanogenMod/cm-kernel)

and could the people with the problems me due to kernel manager somehow?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Dozenboy0012:
2.0 is great but my BFS says CFS on the phone just to let you know
[EVO 4G Android Development] jokester902:
how are the data transfer speeds?
[EVO 4G Android Development] thegregbradley:
Savaged zen governor has lock screen freezing problems. Gotta hold down the power button. Running 2.0, no overclock, min frequency 245, salvage mod 1.2.1.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sheeksta:
2.0 fixed 4g on/off back on issue for me

I tested the CPU frequency complaints and experienced the same 700mhz cap others are complaining about. I recorded my CPU frequency for 10 minutes and ran quadrant benchmark twice and it still wouldn't hit 1ghz with the S-Z governor.

New issue for me in 2.0 is that when I reboot my phone with the power plugged into the phone it freezes for a little while during reboot and resets the governor to default (from smartass to ondemand). With no power plugged in, no problem.

EVO HW003, CM7, S-Z 2.0 CFS
[EVO 4G Android Development] taadow1030:
Running N41 with CFS kernel 2.0. Hardware. Version 3. No issues thus far. Great work as always guys!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
I just flashed 2.0.0 CFS with no problems, running CM7 stable.
[EVO 4G Android Development] twiz0r:
No high android system usage?

Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] algirnavi451:
Me as well. No other issues, runs very smoothly.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
SZ Gov

You guys really need to read what we post... there is NO 768MHZ cap on the SZ Gov... it has a higher step requirement... so if your phone doesnt meet that step (cpu utilization at 768... its not going to move past 768 unless it needs to... Everyone make a note because honestly im tired of addressing this...

Just like a car. your not going to go above 30mph unless you push in the petal enough.... if you dont like the way the Gov works... dont use it. All the other ones are still included.
[EVO 4G Android Development] taadow1030:
Haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary in Settings or Spareparts. Maybe, I'm looking in the wrong place. Where exactly do you look for Android System usage so I can verify?

Edit : after 4 hours & 20 min, Android System is @ 4%.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
Just wanted to make a quick note here:

Unfortunately the latest kernel doesn't work with Kernel Manager :(.

Something in the way you mount the boot partition gets messed up:

./dump_image boot boot.img
[1] Segmentation fault ./dump_image boot boot.img

The reason it can be flashed it from recovery is because recovery has its own kernel that mounts the boot partition correctly.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
the problem lies in All roms tho... each rom has its own boot.img... Dont understand how its a kernel zip problem or the kernel thats currently running problem.

Please correct me if your referring to something else.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shinzul:
Here's the example process steps to replicate:

1) Reboot to recovery

1) Flash any kernel other than sz

2) Reboot

3) Once booted, execute dump_image boot boot.img <-- this pulls your boot.img file out of the boot partition correctly

4) Reboot to recovery

5) Flash the latest sz kernel

6) Reboot

7) Once booted, execute dump_image boot boot.img

You'll see the segmentation fault. Then if you reboot back to recovery, flash a different kernel and reboot, dump_image boot boot.img will work again with no segfault.

Something about the sz kernel changes the boot partition (the partition size, maybe?) enough so that you can't pull it anymore.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Apo11on:
I'm getting a little confused here - I thought default SBC option is supposed to be ON for the 2.0.0-200-SavagedZen-2.0.0-CFS-HAVS-WiMAX-GB-signed kernel.

However, when I look at the contents of the /sys/kernel/batt_options/system_option file it says "[sbc] nosbc". On the other hand, the /sys/kernel/batt_options/sbc/sysctl_batt_sbc file has "1" value, which according to document linked in the OP means SBC is ON...So, which one is it? Is SBC enabled in this kernel or not? And if not, what are the right settings to enable it?

The reason I'm asking is because I just unplugged my evo from the charger, and the battery immediately dropped to 95%. With SBC ON this should not be happening. It's supposed to stay at 100% for at least half an hour of moderate usage after you unplug it.

Any insights from SZ team or anyone else who knows how to set the right options would be much appreciated.
[EVO 4G Android Development] algirnavi451:
I have had this problem with CM Kernel and Tiamat Kernel

Edit: Sorry for posting in this thread about KM. Awesome Kernel no problems. BFS runs awesomely on my phone which usually hates BFS :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
That's correct, SBC is changed by the sysctl, 0 turning it off

SBC is working correctly for me and most others I believe, double check to make sure it was on the charger long enough to get down close to 0 mA charging (usually in the range of 2-6 mA you can pull it)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Apo11on:
it was plugged in to charger overnight, for like 10 hours straight...after that I unpluged it for 5 minutes and then plugged in to a car mount, connected to a AC power source, for another full hour, while I was driving...when I took the phone off that car charger it was at 100%. I dont think those 5 minutes of idle time, when I was walking to my car, in between 11 hours of charging could have cost even 1% of the battery, let alone 5%.

I've been using SBC kernels since the moment ms79723 started releasing them, so I have pretty good idea how fast my battery is supposed to discharge...

I wiped the battery stats from recovery just last night, to make sure I get a clean power consumption picture with this SZ v2.0 kernel, so this is very unexpected...If there are any settings that could be affecting this please speak up.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Holyrolla:
I'm on MIUI 1.4.15 and just flashed this kernel. The phone reboots everytime I try to play a video through the MIUI Gallery. It was fine with the stock kernel, which I believe they use the Tiamat one (not sure which one). Just a FYI in case there's something in the kernel that was overlooked. Then again, it could be the way the MIUI creators have coded things.
[EVO 4G Android Development] iahk:
I just tried recreating this issue but it works fine for me. I even got the -75 undervolt mod on it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sheeksta:
Can kernel 2.0 be installed on froyo roms or only gingerbread?
[EVO 4G Android Development] twiz0r:
Gb

Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] THunDA:
Running 2.0.0 Cfs with cm7 final.. using the sz governor my phone is running super fast and battery life is great so far. Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] tsatrom:
Anyway to fix it? I can easily handle flashing a kernal but I always support teamwin.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rebosxl:
any SVS SBC version for this kernel? preferably bfs
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheflarry:
Use sz rom and download the bfs version and u can change the settings to run svs.
[EVO 4G Android Development] twiz0r:
I did a full wipe and now I'm getting bootloops with 2.0.0 cfs. Very weird. It was working just fine before. Any ideas?

EDIT: Now I'm getting my phone to boot up, but after a minute or two it rebooted (don't know exactly how long being as I am at work - less than 5 mins for sure)

And any ideas as to why when 2.0.0 was working for me that I could not longer undervolt using the scripts?
[EVO 4G Android Development] drdrewdown:
the magic 8 ball says... "you didn't provide any useful information whatsoever"
[EVO 4G Android Development] NoCatharsis:
Question about battery charging:

Just flashed over to CM7-N41 then SavagedZen-2.0.0-CFS kernel, and set governor to SAVAGEDZEN.

Using the same charger I have always used, the charging process seems to take 2x - 3x as long so far. As a test, I ran the battery out and started from 0%. Now at about 40% after 1h 33m charging.

I came over from a Sense ROM with Netarchy-Toastmod kernel, and I would easily be 100% charged by now.

I'm sure I am misunderstanding the mechanics of the kernel or maybe have the wrong settings. Is this normal for most?

Bonus question:

I can't seem to get a straight answer on this - I read that the SavagedZen governor is based off smartass, but what does it do that smartass or any of the others don't do?