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[EVO Shift 4G General] kenvan19:
It is really a matter of opinion. I had an Epic and I will tell you that there is no other smartphone line on the market that can match the graphics performance of the Hummingbird processor. They won't even come close.

That said, the GPU on the shift is not bad, its just not as good as the one in the SGS line. Personally, I don't play a lot of games on my phone and if I do they are not GPU intensive ones. My wife (she owns the shift and I now have an Evo) plays the sims on her phone and I've never seen it even stutter. I've watched full 1080p avi videos on both phones and never had an issue.

As to the screen, no one can say for you if its an issue. For me, it is. 3.6 is just too small but to my wife its more than enough. My suggestion would be to the sprint store and play with each. If you want the big screen the Evo is great and it has a great development community. If you want the keyboard, even though there doesn't seem to be a lot going on around here there are a lot of great devs would have already switched and are just waiting for permanent root to start releasing some very cool stuff.
[EVO Shift 4G General] herbthehammer:
For me, I wouldn't get or use my evo without the sprint extended battery for it. That fixes a major evo issue, battery life. It depends on what's most important features on a smartphone. I won't go through all the questions but figure out what you're wanting to do most often and go with the phone which that is it's strongpoints.

None of them do everything well.
[EVO Shift 4G General] anthonyf27:
I'm personally waiting for root on the Shift before I decide to buy it. Of course by then Sprint may announce something better. We'll see. My Hero is fine for now.
[EVO Shift 4G General] kenvan19:
Might I ask why you're waiting for permanent root? You are of course entitled to your own opinion and can make your own decision, I just don't understand your reasoning.
[EVO Shift 4G General] wardfan220:
I agree, that's intriguing. Permanent root will happen, the Shift out of the box will blow your Hero away if you're worried about the bloatware.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Zardos66:
I have the phone and I'm waiting for Perma root. In fact, if it's not achieved before my 30 days mark, I might take it back and buy it again once its done.

Use and abuse the 30 days I say. This also might free me up for whatever is being revealed on the 7th, which is one day after my 30 day mark.
[EVO Shift 4G General] wardfan220:
I read something somewhere about what they are revealing but I forgot what it was and where I saw it, lol.
[EVO Shift 4G General] tps70:
Like you, I'm currently using an HTC Hero (fully rooted, ROM'd, & themed). I'm due for my upgrade next month, but am having difficulty deciding between the Epic & Evo Shift. They both seem to have their strong points, but I'm just torn. I'm thinking I'll "test drive" the Epic (sAMOLED screen really looks nice), and if I don't like it I'll use the 30-day return policy & give the Evo Shift a try.

The biggest complaint I've been reading about the Epic is lack of support. I've figured out that this basically means people are upset that it doesn't have an official Samsung FroYo release yet. Understandable. HTC seems to have gotten better with their updates (my wife has an OG Evo), but I remember a time when we Hero users were very, very upset with HTC/Sprint because we didn't have Eclair for the longest time. Remember that? :eek:

Bottom line (for me) is that no phone manufacturer is perfect! :rolleyes:
[EVO Shift 4G General] tps70:
I've read some speculation about an iPhone 4G, but I don't know if I believe it. I've always felt the iPhone and iOS were overrated - I wouldn't buy one even if Sprint did offer it. Android all the way for me! :D
[EVO Shift 4G General] wardfan220:
I said something about that somewhere, but that's just total speculation on my part, based on VZW getting it. Unless you saw it elsewhere.
[EVO Shift 4G General] StAlphonso:
i had a hero too and i was one of those very upset people who waited forever for the 2.1 update....once it got leaked and i tried it i was so disappointed i finally rooted and never looked back...but i feel like sprint and htc took a lot of crap for that and look what happened with the evo....first carrier phone to get 2.2....so i think they may have learned their lesson so im hopeful updates will be quick for the shift
[EVO Shift 4G General] tps70:
I may have read where you posted it, but I've also seen it a couple other places including androidcentral.com's forums.
[EVO Shift 4G General] tps70:
I completely agree! The Eclair update for the Hero was a definite disappointment. I was very apprehensive about rooting (fear of bricking my phone). Once I did it & realized how easy it actually was I kicked my self for not doing it sooner - no more dialer lag! :D

I hope you're right about HTC and their updates going forward. Maybe the Hero fiasco taught them a valuable lesson - the Evo 2.2 update and subsequent patch (Swype & other software) seems to show they've learned something. If the delay goes on much longer for the Epic users, Samsung may find a lot of people either jumping ship early or just refusing to buy their products in the future.

I know I'll most likely root whatever device I end up with, but I think Samsung's delay with FroYo is my biggest hangup because I don't want to go through it again!
[EVO Shift 4G General] kenvan19:
Honestly, if you are considering the Epic, don't. Its not worth the money. I bought it at launch and it was the biggest technological mistake I've ever made. I should have gone with my gut and gotten an Evo from the start. If the Epic gets froyo it will be the last update it gets, it will never see gingerbread or anything beyond. They've left the GPS barely functioning for this long and I doubt if they'll ever really care enough to fix it. The upside is you never really have to worry about bricking it because its already a brick.
[EVO Shift 4G General] herbthehammer:
I have a MacBook and love it. I thought I would like an iPhone but I read stories about the cons of the phone. I feel as if apple heavily censors some apps and deny some really useful apps because maybe they think someone could do something remotely black or grey hattish with it.

A Swiss army knife or leatherman multi tool can be very useful and handy sometimes. You could also use it to cut someone's brake lines or slit their throat. They decide that we aren't responsible enough to have something like that at our disposal. Once again, I digress.
[EVO Shift 4G General] tps70:
Digression or not, +1!

:cool:
[EVO Shift 4G General] tps70:
I appreciate the input... any input I get to help me decide. I still have a couple weeks to hash it out, so I'm researching & taking all opinions into account. Speaking of opinions... my ex-wife had a Moment which she cursed constantly... what did she "upgrade" to? You probably guessed it... the Epic. :rolleyes:

I also plan to spend some more "hands on" time at the Sprint store with both phones.
[EVO Shift 4G General] kenvan19:
I do apologize for my harsh opinion. I felt very burned by Sprint and Samsung based on the fact that the sales rep sold me on the epic based on a claim that there would be 4g in my area within 2 months and that the Epic would have 2.2 in less than a month. However, when I came back to have them check out my wife's instinct the same guy told me that the Epic wouldn't be getting FroYo and as you are aware there is no official Froyo for it nor is there 4G in my area. I bought my wife a Shift because I knew she couldn't handle dealing with the Instinct any longer but I bought it off contract so that when hers is up we can leave Sprint and just pay my ETF. If I could get out of Sprint with just paying one ETF I would do it now.
[EVO Shift 4G General] tps70:
Don't apologize for your opinion - you're entitled to it! :D

Back in what I'll refer to as the stone ages - before 3G in my area - I was told by a local Sprint sales rep that we'd be getting 3G in our area "that summer". Summer came & went... so did fall, winter, and spring. Finally, the next summer, we got 3G.

Wasn't a huge deal to me because I didn't know what I was missing. :p Just annoyed me a bit that he made that claim and it didn't happen. Honestly, that's the only bad experience I can remember having with Sprint in my 10+ years with them - and it wasn't that bad.

I stick with Sprint because they have the best rates, unlimited data (no caps or overage charges), a decent selection of phones, and I get a 15% discount through my employer. Oh, I like their Premier program, too... getting a new phone every year is pretty nice.

Still gotta do more "hands on" research on both the Epic & Evo Shift.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Heelfan71:
I was torn between the shift and epic also. I was leaning towards the epic but What made me go with the shift was reading all the disgruntled epic owners. The epic seems like a great pone, the problem seems to be with Samsung.
[EVO Shift 4G General] kenvan19:
I can see how you would be happy then however my negative experience was my first with sprint and it came after years of great service with tmobile. I only switched because their service in my area is not so great and st the time they really didn't have any good phones. However I'm moving in a few months to a great tmobile voice and hspa+ area and given how horribly I've been treated by sprint I'll be switching.

Sent from my cm7 Evo 4G!
[EVO Shift 4G General] 33colburn:
My girlfriend is due for an upgrade. I stopped in the Sprint store today and took a look at the shift. I felt nice in the hand and was quite quick and responsive. I look forward to her getting it and to it being rooted. Are most people who have already purchased this phone happy with the performance? Thanks in advance
[EVO Shift 4G General] tps70:
You may get some responses in this thread, but I think your question might be better answered here. It's another thread in this forum that might already have the answers you're looking for.

Just a suggestion! :)
[EVO Shift 4G General] tps70:
I agree 100% - Seems to be a great piece of technology that's just not being supported properly.
[EVO Shift 4G General] kenvan19:
I bought it for my wife and she is very happy with the performance.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Stuke00:
Ended up getting the Shift and i LOVE IT. I haven't used the keyboard much yet. But a note to anyone who does get it... do a factory reset as soon as you get it home.
[EVO Shift 4G General] kenvan19:
Glad you like it. Why did you have to factory reset? Never did it on my wife's and it runs great.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Stuke00:
My screen wasn't locking. I would hit the power button to lock it, and then again to turn it on and I never got the lock screen. Also the volume button would unlock it.
[EVO Shift 4G General] tps70:
I've read some posts about people having serious problems with battery life decreasing with each subsequent charge until they do a factory reset. Then, problem fixed.

Strange... I'm no expert, but it sounds almost like the key mapping was off from the factory. Thanks for the tip! (just in case I end up with a Shift next month) :)
[EVO Shift 4G General] Stuke00:
I remember one other person on these forums talking about that. A lot of people mentioned having to do a reset.. so might as well do it anyways. Doesn't hurt right? :D
[EVO Shift 4G General] AmishGuy91:
Well I just upgraded to the Shift from the Samsung Moment, but with the data issues I'm having it sure doesn't seem like. I cannot connect to 4G even though I'm in the heart of a 4G area (zip code 75001, just outside of Dallas). Every time I scan for 4G service, it just says Disconnected about 5 seconds later.

Using the Speedtest.net app, I'm averaging maybe 60-70kbps download speed on the 3G network. When I download apps the downloading generally pauses for several seconds.

For the record, I have done the data reset (##3282#), but that didn't help at all.

Any suggestions, or could it be I just have a bad phone?

Wes
[EVO Shift 4G General] BrandoKC:
Try updating your PRL and Profile too
[EVO Shift 4G General] AmishGuy91:
Done that a few times but still no improvement.
[EVO Shift 4G General] doratheconquistadora:
Hm

I think it would be wise to talk to a Sprint representative over the phone, or show the problem to them in person.

It kinda sucks to pay a $10 monthly surcharge for 4G if you're in the network and are not getting it (worse if there's no 4G nearby)

I myself have not used 4G yet (live right on the edge of the network)

They should hopefully help you out

I too have a problem with connecting to 4G but that may just be my area
[EVO Shift 4G General] BrandoKC:
I know you have probably already done this but I would try powercycling if you haven't already.
[EVO Shift 4G General] herbthehammer:
Try comparing it to the display. I noticed that the wimax radio is kinda deaf when compared to my old epic. It doesn't lock as often as the old phone. There might be an update that helps some of these issues.
[EVO Shift 4G General] bcnice20:
Ok you need to reactivate the phone pretty simple to do

Get ur msl either from msl reader on the market or ask sprint

Go to dialer dial ##3282# hit edit mode and enter ur msl

Click on data profile then hit the menu button and click restore

Let the phone reboot and go through hands free activation again

Tada speeds should be back to normal!
[EVO Shift 4G General] AmishGuy91:
Appears to just be the location I'm in at work. Just tested it while I was driving around and got good speeds: 4G (at 6-8 megs download) and 3G (.5-1 megs). So I guess my phone is good.

Thanks for all the suggestions.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Heelfan71:
Mine won't pick up at work inside. I step outside and it is fine. :-(
[EVO Shift 4G General] hdm13579:
I'm having same problem. I did a side by side with my phone and the display in Sprint store...I got about 120 Kbps and the display got about 1200 Kbps.

I don't know if the store is doing the 3282 thing every day on the display, but when I do it I get a bump up in speed then it decreases again over time.
[EVO Shift 4G General] nautical34:
Mine does the same thing, I've had sprint smartphones for over 2 years and all have been at a constant 70-120kbs (kilobytes) however this phone averages about 30-40(kilobytes) using SpeedTest.net app and the meter is very jerky as if it's having trouble maintaining a data connection. Occasionally the phone will spit out 120-130kbs with a rock solid meter, but then will revert back to the constant 30-40kbs tests.

I've tried the ##3282## to reset the data profile, reformatted the phone a few times and updated the profile and PRL. My battery life is also not very good at all, and I'm assuming because it's having such a hard time keeping a cellular connection.

I hope the radio is not dead, and that a simple radio update would fix this problem.

I'm open to suggestions as this is really driving me insane, but I love the phone.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Brandas:
I was having a very similar issue, and when I checked ##33284# under evdo, it showed failed. Apparently 3G connection or not the phone shows the 3G icon.
[EVO Shift 4G General] nautical34:
I didn't know about the ##33284# field test, thanks for sharing. My Evdo status is connected. I noticed that both the Evdo & GPS list Latitude & Longitude and both of them are different, and are hundreds of miles off from my locations, seems a bit odd.

I'm hoping HTC is aware of the inconsistent data problem and will send an OTA update to correct soon.
[EVO Shift 4G General] AmishGuy91:
I'm really disappointed in the 4G (maybe more of a Sprint issue than a Shift issue?). I can never connect to it very long before it goes back to scanning for a network so basically it's not worth the battery drain it causes. I'm primarily in areas that should get 4G easily.
[EVO Shift 4G General] DWake014:
Thats weird, at work, in Charlotte, my 4G flys, its almost faster than the wifi at my apartment.
[EVO Shift 4G General] wardfan220:
First test was unplugged while holding it, 2nd plugged in while holding it, 3rd unplugged while not holding it and 4th was plugged in while not holding it.

I did get a test that sad 1.1m in between there, but I threw it out figuring it was a fluke.

I haven't done anything to the phone but remove the mp3, stocks, peep, nfl, and nascar apps. Haven't done the ##3282#. Seems pretty consistent on my end, then again it is 2:30 in the morning here, but it seems to be good for me all day.

It does seem that holding the phone makes a difference, to me at least.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Heelfan71:
what is considered good 3g speeds? Just tried mine at home and it is

509kbps down

63kbps up

this test done with the phone laying on the couch. Then I picked it up and did the test while holding

171 down

31 up

I only had 1 bar while doing these test. Seems as soon as I pick up the phone it the signal strength goes down.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Heelfan71:
also, by signal strength goes up when I have the keyboard slid out
[EVO Shift 4G General] viperv303:
just adding in about the speeds, i've been getting good signal and data rates everywhere i've been so far with the phone. then again, its winter, so i'm not traveling atm. We'll see what happens come may when i'm going through the mountains of WV. :P

and i can get good 4g while at work (close to DC, but not that close).

my speeds are: down/up

wifi -- 18mbps/7.5mbps (note, we have a 50mb/s pipe coming in the house)

4g -- 4mbps/1mbps

3g -- 0.8mbps/0.3mbps

i dunno if those are good or not, but gotta say, they beat the hell out of what my old PPC6600 got with its 1xRTT connection. cant wait to get tethering to work on this thing.
[EVO Shift 4G General] bobbysteels216:
What is powercycling?
[EVO Shift 4G General] cloverdale:
Out of curiousity, where in MD are you located. I work at the NIH, in Bethesda, and cannot get 4G there, yet at my home in Gaithersburg 4G is strong.

Also, tethering works just fine with temp root.
[EVO Shift 4G General] adamr240:
I just wanted to add a few things in here.

Phones with sense will display 3g regardless of 1xrtt or evdo. Stock Android actually displays those things.

I did a ##3282 reset, and the phone would not hands free activate afterwards. However, voice and sms worked, just no data. I called Sprint, spoke with advanced tech, and they had no idea. I thought maybe it was because of bad signal, so I drove across town to try again. Still no luck.

A friend who works in Sprint tech suggested a ##782 reset, which actually the same thing as doing a factory data reset.

I did a titanium backup, then did the reset. I was pissed when I got the same error during hands free activation. I rebooted the phone, and it started to work fine, no activation. Weird.

Just wanted to warn you guys of possible risks involved.

EDIT: I wanted to add that there was some kind of data issue in the area, which is what was actually causing the problem. Call Sprint and ask them to check the Network Event Board for your area before getting too carried away.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Stuke00:
My phone will show 1x instead of 3g when I am not connected to 3g. I have the Shift.
[EVO Shift 4G General] ahager88:
Same here.
[EVO Shift 4G General] wardfan220:
My Hero running sense showed 1x, so sense phones don't show 3g all the time. Haven't tested this phone out in that respect but I know my other sense phone did change from 1x to 3g.
[EVO Shift 4G General] adamr240:
Well I am surprised. My girlfriends EVO has always shown 3g, even when it wasn't available here.

I do know that internally, Sprint considers 1x 3g, so I always just assumed that's why.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Stuke00:
Traded my shift for the EVO, and the EVO will always show 3g it seems.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qingqing202:
Hi,

I installed MIUI ROM to my G2 today, and it is great. But my G2 can not detect Ad-hoc network anymore.

When I used CM ROM, G2 can easily detect Ad-HOC network from my Windows 7.

can help?

thx!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qingqing202:
I found the answer...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=754961
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] guppie11:
Hi,

I'm running Android from a SD Card and i really love it.

But i just noticed a new way called NAND so i got 1 question.

It says i need to flash my Radio + HardSPL but if i can remember i allready thit this.

Could someone tell me if i need to do this again or i don't because i allready can run android from sd

Please help me,

Thomas
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MattOG:
If you have a Radio/HSPL already, you don't need to do it again, unless you want to update them.

Check the sticky link in my sig. In there is a link titled "Flashing Your First HD2 NAND Android Rom [For Newbs]"

Read this for all the info you could ever need.

Hope this helps.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] guppie11:
Thanks for the response.

So what you saying is : Because i allready can run Android from my SD i don't need to install everything again? So i can simply flash it?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MattOG:
Yes, as long as they are compatible. All the info is in the Guide thread. HSPL and Radio have to be over a certain minimum.

This is from that thread:

1. YOU NEED A RADIO WHICH SUPPORTS 576 RAM
(2.08.50 or later should be fine but the Radio NEEDS to be 2.**.50.**).
I recommed the 2.15.50.14 Radio *HERE*

2. YOU NEED HARDSPL 2.08 INSTALLED ON YOUR DEVICE
TO FLASH MAGLDR

Please read the guide through before going ahead, and refer to it, and the FAQ, if you have any problems. 99% of issues have already been solved and the fixes are in there.

Good luck, and enjoy. :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] guppie11:
My radio : 2.12.50.02

And i only can remember i have the SPL from the stock version of my htc.(non-upgraded)

Can i do it all again safely? to be sure
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TonyStark R.I.P.:
I hope my question helps those of us that are not so sure of ourselves.

I have a AT&T Captivate and have finally learned how to root the device. I had no desire to do this, but I find with the articles I've read that FROYO 2.2 really speeds up the system and helps cure many other aliments. I also am amongst the many who really have waited a long time for AT&T/Samsung to release this for this phone, did I mention waited a loooong time:(

For 2 days now I have read soooo many articles regarding FROYO 2.2 and all the instructions involved. SpeedMod kernel is one I thought would work, then as I read I wasn't so sure anymore. It's way to difficult and I feel like I'm going to destroy my phone if I look away for a second while following steps 1 -44. (yea I know, not that many steps but it sure looks that way!)

Can anybody recommend a Samsung Galaxy S/AT&T Captivate i897 (ROM? Kernel? What's the difference) that is simple to install, stable and easy to remove if necessary. Vids would be nice, but clear instructions would suffice.

Thanks way in advance, Tomween1

I hope this opens doors to those of us incapable of what many take for granted,
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phoenix-Lead:
Everything you see on the Captivate dev forum installs the same way. To put it simply for you follow these steps please. You can trust me, I have put out 2 ROMS, support them day and night and would never do anything to harm your device.

1. DL the update.zip attached to this post.

2. move the update.zip to your "Internal" SD card

3. DL the ROM of your choice and also put that on your "Internal" SD card.

4. Reboot into recovery. There are a few ways.

a. Three button recovery(power off device, hold the volume up+down while powering on the device. Once you see the ATT screen, release the power button but continue to hold the volume up+down. Choose install zip from sd card and choose the update.zip. Your phone will now reboot, again, choose install from sd card and choose your ROM. it will now install and reboot your phone. Enjoy your new ROM!

b. Use adb to get into recovery and follow the same steps as above.

Kernels and modems work the same way as mentioned above just go a lot quicker. If you have any other questions please askk so you don't ruin your device, just please post in the Q&A.