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[Touch CDMA Android Development] edgarpoe:
Rotating the screen for HTC Touch

I've used handcent for quite a long time but don't think there's a way for the messenger to auto rotate at starting. Just hold in power button for 3 seconds (as mentioned above by KralHiPolymer), let go, and wait for the rotate... This works when ever you want your screen to rotate to landscape, and again to rotate back to portrait mode. You might find the the keyboard pops up after this so you'll have to hit the back button (old camera button) once to pop the keyboard back down if you don't need it up, or alternatively hold in power button for just 1 second.

(this happens because if you hold in the same power button for only 1 second and let go it triggers the on-screen keyboard on and off)

Landscape mode is great for getting your keyboard keys a little bit larger for easier txt'ing!

If you search the forums close enough you'll find all kinds of cool button tricks (hard and soft) for your Vogue. :D
[HTC Aria General] d0wnti.me:
I am unable to save a new contact to my SIM card, it says that the card is full, I have 100 contacts on the card currently; no where near the capacity of the card. Any suggestions?
[Captivate General] whiteguypl:
Take it with a grain of salt. But it sounds mildly legit.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=913045

edit: actually i call b.s.
[Captivate General] polarbee:
Why? I have no firm opinion one way or the other, but just saying "bull****" really doesn't mean much unless you're playing the card game.
[Captivate General] Billabong81:
How could Samsung charge for an open-source project update? Obviously they must make some modifications to make it fit their phones, but at its core, its still an open source program.
[Captivate General] polarbee:
Open source doesn't mean free.
[Captivate General] quarlow:
I'm inclined to believe it. It makes more sense than trying to say they have been testing it for months. I've had my captivate for 6 months, almost 5 of them running FroYo thanks to the awesome devs here. Has the froyo always been stable and fast? No. But the devs don't work for Samsung with all the resouces, they are doing it in their spare time. I would bet Samsung had a fairly stable, almost complete version of FroYo ready before the phone released.

I am really getting tempted by the Atrix, apart from the awesome hardware and webtop app, Motorola devices get updates. But, they sound harder to flash custom ROMs, so its a give and take. Based on what I saw on the CES coverage, going with only official software may not be so bad.
[Captivate General] ianwood:
Makes no sense. Regardless if Samsung charges for feature updates or not, terms of the upgrades would have been set between carrier and Samsung prior to the first handset even being made. Thus outside of any major surprises (which there are none here) the carrier knows from day one what upgrades will be offered, when and at what cost. It's not like Samsung turned around weeks after the devices shipped and said, "Hey. That Froyo upgrade is gonna cost ya, buddy!" That would have been known long before contacts were signed.
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
Even if thus is true, both AT&T and Samsung have all ready made too many mistakes. Both will lose some business. Yes it won't be enough to hurt either but maybe all the pestering will make them rethink their business models. Probably not. My last Samschmuck phone on AT&T for sure.

Sent from a phone somewhere in the universe
[Captivate General] 10ee:
This is the same point I tried to make on the thread. While Samsung may have been the ones to state that Froyo would come to Galaxy S, it may be that the carrier(s) decided to balk on the 2.2 update due to extra cost as probably stipulated by whatever contract they negotiated with Samsung.

If Froyo is already on Canadian carriers' devices (officially) why not U.S. carriers. Something reeks here.

While Samsung should have kept their mouths shut about the update, I'm sure a part is being played by the American carriers here.
[Captivate General] z28james:
You are mixing up open source with free software. Ask Richard Stallman the difference :P

Also, I would imagine that they would not be paying Samsung for the software itself but more so the software development to tailor it to the carriers needs.
[Captivate General] A.VOID:
This sounds good in theory, but I think it has holes.

this would be the case for all phones on all carriers, but it isn't the same situation.

iphone updates are coming out all the time. With at&t subsidized out the butt on the iphone, I fail to believe they osu for all those updates.

I had a samsung blackjCk, and we went through the same thing with winmo, meanwhile other at&t phones got the updates.
[Captivate General] Xaviorin:
Id have to say honestly in my personal opinion based from facts from an inside source... At&t is so obsessed with the iphone anything that costs them money or time that doesn't increase profits is going to be set on the backburner... Att has a time of year called "Iphone season" where they push the new versions and updates of the iphone to customers.... Seeing as how froyo itself was already released for almost every device on OTHER carriers and att has yet to push a single update aside from the eclaire update i doubt it will ever be coming.

Not to mention if anyone has noticed att removed ALOT of stuff from the captivates before they were able to ship them to customers... for example the third party apk allow button is completely gone from the stock phones due to att and their restrictions and the market having apps that just don't show up becuase of the way att wants to now start locking down phones like apple. (not trying to bash anyone or brands but from what ive seen from someone who loves to customize and believe anything i pay for is mine and i should be able to do as i wish with said product that's how it is in my eyes)

I think that since they have the rage over the iphones (another reason they try to sell them harder then any other phone is because of the "vast amount of accessories" ) it feels like they fell on the band wagon of the craze instead of actually worrying about ALL of their customers. It just seems like since iphone updates are pushed to phone and att doesnt have to deal with them, not to mention if the phone messes up it goes to an apple store and not att.

I've also heard rumors from att employees stating that something was signed with apple to put restrictions on android updates and phones in order to allow exclusivity for the iphone when it was first released. As to the truth behind this, anyones guess is as good as mine. Just seems funny how No att phones have gotten the froyo update unless they've (the customer) installed it themselves.

I wouldn't be looking forward to any updates from what i've seen on my end.
[Captivate General] kegobeer:
AT&T has nothing to do with iPhone updates. Matter of fact, AT&T has nothing to do with iPhones at all, except sell them. All iPhone updates are done through iTunes and all iPhone support is handled by Apple. This is not a good comparison.

Even comparing WinMo doesn't really work. I had a Wizard on AT&T, and there was exactly one firmware update, even though there were other versions that were available later. Plus, Windows is not free and not based on open source code. So, carriers would expect to pay for updates with closed source operating systems.
[Captivate General] kegobeer:
If that were true, then Apple and AT&T would be facing some serious litigation. This is similar to the deals that Intel made with computer manufacturers, forcing them to slow leak AMD sales in order to sell more Intel chips. Intel paid quite a hefty fine and suffered a serious PR black eye. That type of practice stifles competition and is very, very illegal. So, I doubt that Apple and AT&T would even consider doing that.
[Captivate General] emuneee:
Conspiracy theory much? :p Like someone said, your theories border on anti-competitive in practice. AT&T is also not so obsessed with the iPhone given how much they've diversified their smartphone portfolio in the past 9 months (+2 WebOS devices, +2 BlackBerrys, +3 Windows Phones, +5 Android devices).
[Captivate General] ricethief:
I'm usually skeptical about these things, but this is about the only rumor that makes sense.

For those comparing it to the iphone, its like comparing oranges to apples. Apple pretty much takes care of everything on their side.At&t just peddles their product. Apple has a 400 person call center just for the iphone, next door to where I work.

Apple makes the hardware and creates the OS.

Samsung just makes hardware which is a good thing considering how bad their software engineers are at coding.
[Captivate General] rastanthology:
I'm more in the conspiracy theory side :P

Don't trust everything you read.

Thing about it deeply, what is more likely:

A Sammy employee risked his job, created an account just to create this post, and tell us the truth about the updates and how bad his employer is? seriously? What did he gain by doing this post? peace of mind? can he go to sleep now that he has revealed the truth of the US-only updates? Does really the Samsung employees care this much for only the US based users? This smells, and bad.

Now lets look at the conspiracy side. An AT&T employee notices our frustration against them. They see that seem to be more frustrated people are the non tech-savvy ones; that we got to admit they are more than us and represent a big number for them. On the other hand I bet they receive a gazillion calls from you guys on these subject.

Wouldn't be more likely than AT&T representative created that post to wash their hands and pass the blame to sammy? Isn't them who released a restricted phone and made a deal with Samsung saying that they will be in charge of this phone's updates? Samsungs cost in releasing an update of a phone that is almost equal to 6 other phones they released is null; whereas AT&T cost in updating their crap is high. Don't be blind. Carriers are the new tyrants. They will do anything in their power to get more money. If you could see what they are able to do in countries like mine you wont even doubt this. In my country of such a deal is made you can forget that you will ever get updates. There even is a carrier that, after 4 months passed that you have purchased a motorola's android based phone, charges you 10 uss monthly for MOTO BLUR, and this was written in the small print of the contract... seriously... I've seen carriers cancel their users contracts, saying they requested that, to bill them their contract-cancelation fee...

I could go on with this for pages... I've witnessed carriers lying, deceiving, and even more right in the people's face. If you want to check this, and know some spanish or use translators, just google "Claro hijos de puta" (sons of a...) or "claro estafa" (scam); both searches give more than 3 million results, and you wont imagine what you might find inside those pages...

This whole thing smells badly. And if I had to bet, I would say that post was made by a carrier to buy them time, or even to start making up an excuse so they wont ever release an update... after all, they would be the only ones that would benefit from such events...
[Captivate General] DKirk:
I'm through waiting

This story was the final straw for me, whether it's true or not. I am tired of the drama and am no longer waiting for AT&T and/or Samsung to deliver what AT&T told me would happen when I bought the phone. If AT&T store staff said something incorrect it was corporate's fault for not guiding their staff correctly. I was told shortly Froyo was coming, but it never came. Samsung said on Twitter/Facebook we all would have Froyo last year. There is no excuse for what they have done, none. I've waded through the myriad of 3rd party ROMs and was leery of the leaked Froyo ones due to everyone seemed to have an issue here or there. The 9000 ROMs sounded exciting but came with issues I didn't want. I just want a working GPS and a stable phone, running Froyo, what I thought I was getting last summer.

Now that Rogers released a North American ROM and the talented coders have seized upon it, we seem to be approaching a new level of stability with Froyo. After reading up on the various Rogers ROM based images I installed Cognition (donation coming later tonight) and after 30 minutes of playing around, I am home with Froyo now. I am beyond tired of waiting for AT&T and/or Samsung to do the honorable thing for they are not honorable companies. I doubt another Samsung will grace my pocket and yet maybe it will be the 3rd party coders that will ultimately deliver what I have waited patiently for, for months. Wouldn't it be a wonderful environment if Samsung would just release the source to everything and let those out here, those infinitely more talented than Samsung staff, have access to the code they need to work pure magic.
[Captivate General] diablo009:
Open source comes under GPL license. This isn't the one that is of cost, but the efforts involved in packing for a device, its extensive testing is what is costly.

In the most simplest of terms, the following people would be involved:

Business Team x 3 people

Development Team x 6 people

Testing/QA Team x 10 people

To take care of these people:

Project Manager x 1 person

Team Leads x 3 people (1 for each team)

Taking this to 23 people, to say the least.

On an

average

, if we pay each person say $ 50k for 6 months effort, it would be $ 50,000 x 23 = $ 1,150,000 i.e., $ 1.15 millions for 6 months.

Now see, this is only the minimal scale. For a phone so wide spread, I would assume a team of atleast 50 where managers charge more than 100-200k a year.

Now u see why Samsung doesn't wish to put this kind of money into a phone already sold, and is looking into marketing newer phones.
[Captivate General] Scottbg1:
I think its all hoopla.

This "leak" of sensitive information on one of many android forums is only going to reach the eyes of a hand full of readers.

We (the brave souls wanting new updates for our gadgets and willing to hack them to get it) are very few in numbers compared to the vast amounts of consumers who own this phone, and usually don't give a hoot about a new update/upgrade for their phones ROM, IF they even know what the heck it is. They only care that their calls and texts go through, and they can browse the web on their lunch break.

The ONLY issue that most would care about is the GPS issues we have had. And I bet that AT&T, and Samsung have both received tens of thousands of customer complaints regarding Mr. Joe Average not being able to find his way on his family vacation. Again, we are but a small number compared to that. I would think that alone would motivate something to happen, at least an OTA update to fix the GPS issues. Nope.

So other than an intellectual debate on "why haves", and "why have nots" on a forum like this, there is nothing else this message could possibly accomplish.

The above thread, and this one will slowly slide down the thread list and be forgotten and nothing else will change.
[Captivate General] ianwood:
The Bottom Line

Rumors aside, if it doesn't sell more phones, minutes or data plans and it can be avoided without seriously upsetting customers, they won't bother. Outside of our merry band of flash-a-holics, what percent of Captivate owners even know what Froyo is or care?

Also, judging by the JH7 OTA debacle, Samsung's OTA upgrade capability is decidedly unreliable. I'd bet that caused a mountain of returns. AT&T HATES returns!!! Costs them a fortune. The cost of paying Samsung for a Froyo upgrade is a drop in the bucket by comparison. So a bad OTA system is worse than none at all. If AT&T can get away with avoiding it, they will.

I think our best hope is to make A LOT of noise! Complain to Samsung, AT&T and Google. Do it publicly on FB, Twitter, etc. Do it often. A small vocal group of XDA readers can probably stir up a decent amount of attention at AT&T if they coordinated their efforts.
[Captivate General] sclRanger:
From samsungUSA facebook page:

"Samsung USA Hi guys. For those of you wondering about Froyo, we do not have any additional information at this point. We are communicating with Samsung Mobile on a consistent basis about this. Once we have something we will let you know. Thank you for your patience and for reaching out here on Facebook"

It was in this post: "Samsung USA Here's Randi Zuckerberg from Facebook talking about Social TV with Samsung's Scott Cohen at CES 2011"
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
It's time to forget about it...

http://xdaforums.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=10639456
[Captivate General] rye&ginger:
Only issue there is, Samsung does not have any newer phones to market. They will in 3-4 months. 2.2 update would give a shot in the arm to their current phones, which are pretty much the same specs as the 'new' Nexus S. What phone can you buy today, and use on AT&T that is better than a Galaxy S? The Evo 4G is great, but that is carrier dependent to have '4G', other than that its similar.

In the end, this is Samsung's phone and they look bad along with AT&T and other carriers who have Galaxy S phones in the USA for having a weak product. Plenty of blame to go around here, as neither carrier or phone maker is showing they are putting the customer first.

Im with Rogers, and the 2.2 update has some small bugs, and one major one (mass storage does not work fully for Int. SD). Who is to blame....
[Captivate General] stoobie-doo:
Maybe this will put the rumor mill to bed

http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=7346
[Captivate General] swedishcancerboi:
I remember having a Blackjack. Then the Blackjack II came out. I wanted one. My Blackjack kept having "problems" ;) after the fourth swap out, they finally just have me a Blackjack II.

I'm just saying........it is VERY easy to"brick" a phone.
[Captivate General] cdwhit:
Interesting. Today I got an email from an ATT rep in response to one of my many postings on their FB page. One of the questions he asked me, which I thought strange at the time, " If we can't replace your you phone, what othe phone would you consider?" Unfortunately, ATT has no other Android phones in the same class as the Captivate was SUPPOSED to be, and I don't like Apple, so I had to say none.

I'm waiting to hear back. I might be back on my Tilt 1 before long.
[Captivate General] ianwood:
Sorry, I wasn't clear enough in what I wrote. I wouldn't condone spamming or other disruptive measures either. Rather, I was suggesting people voice their frustrations constructively through the available public channels.
[Captivate General] adr1aN:
http://tinyurl.com/4932utj
[Captivate General] a2gtinut:
i wonder if somebody from ATT is going to reply to my posts on FB?
[Captivate General] mjk37:
It's just weird that it is out in canada on rogers you would think other than taking the specific canadian features out this should be a done deal.

For the first time ever it pays to live in canada as fast as something tech related goes. : D
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
Mere pennies when you consider the dough they rake in from selling 10 million phones.

The only thing I see is Samsung's blind greed, complete apathy, and general selfishness.
[Captivate General] Lancez:
actually, that info was not true. samsung dose not charge for froyo upgrade, it's our evil carriers who wants to sell more newer phones rather than wasting their resources to upgrade old phones (read "you are stuck with 2 yrs contract, what ya gonna do"?)

latest news here
[Captivate General] Velshtein:
Regardless of whether or not it's true (and I'm thinking that it is, and Samsung is hastily changing the policy at the moment - hence the prior article), Samsung is in deep water with all Galaxy S owners at the moment and really needs to get their act together.
[Captivate General] whiteguypl:
They made over $200 million off this phone in the u.s.a. alone... i think they can afford it. Without even feeling it. Even after manufacturing and advertising.
[Captivate General] bames:
That would mean they either aren't charging the fee's to canadian carriers or rogers ponied up the fee.
[Captivate General] snyder650:
I find it very difficult to believe that Samsung is the one holding this up. AT&T currently does not have a single device in their offerings that carries anything better than 2.1. It's been reported by DELL that AT&T is holding up the 2.2 release for the Streak, but only those that are sim-locked to AT&T are affected...
[Captivate General] emuneee:
AT&T historically has a thorough/difficult technical acceptance program. Back when I was in QA for Sony Ericsson, it was an incredibly intense effort to get our FEATURE phones to pass AT&T's stringent technical acceptance requirement. Certain requirements would fail and we would have to go fix the issue, then begin technical acceptance all over again. For example, the W760A Walkman phone took FOREVER to get accepted and was finally released. As you pointed out the Dell Streak update is held up. Add to that, the 2.1 update for the XPERIA X10.

These are the reasons why I am seriously considering never buying a branded AT&T handset again.
[Captivate General] upNsmokeAllDay:
You will be interested in this thread also about samsung.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=920168
[Captivate General] jokes24:
$am$ung is not charging for an update (that PROBABLY won't happen anyway).

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/18/samsung-says-it-isnt-charging-carriers-for-android-updates-pro/
[Captivate General] a2gtinut:
can you tell me why SE W760a has BT bug where handset audio is lost and req. power reset? :).

ATT is hard to deal with, i know this from my friend - BT engineer at big automotive company. ATT does not provide their sets for validation because they claim that they know what they are doing. Verizon provides engineering samples and listens to the feedback.
[Captivate General] jokes24:
i don't think this has anything to do with the 2.2 upgrade...let alone the captivate.
[HD2 General] Sklar:
I am very excited about starting to make themes! But then I thought 'Hmm, do I really know what I'm doing?' And the answer was: No!

So, I used to be very involved with making a new theme every week for my iPod Touch, but now I have my HTC HD2, my iPod is old news to me. So I'm hearing all this stuff about custom ROMs, what are these; and are they required for making a custom theme?

How exactly can I make my own custom themes?

These are a few examples of themes I made for the iPod:

http://renovatai.deviantart.com/art...-170894740?q=gallery:renovatai/24988293&qo=16

http://renovatai.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2tofhj
[HD2 General] Sklar:
OK, so I'm bumping this thread. Please, does anyone have any ideas for me? ):
[HD2 General] Wil Badger:
The search feature would help you a great deal. Look into modding manilla files. Themes do not need custom ROMs. ROMs are the operating system and would include themes of their own. You can create your own theme on a stock phone with no other modes. Do some searching for Mode9 editor and CFC_GUI. These will help you in making themes.