yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pongster:
You want a DFT installer, you can try making one cause I'm pretty sure I won't. Most developers are trying to make it easier for users to flash... with CWM you don't need a PC to flash... I just download the zip and flash away.

What makes people assume that CWM doesn't do a "clean install"? A full wipe formats your/data, /sd-ext and installing will format your /boot and /system partition BEFORE copying files over. DFT does the same thing when you flash a DFT flashable ROM.

You think using DFT will keep the issues down? and what if they bork their install and don't have a backup? With CWM, you can have 10 backups (which is what I have) and restore data, sd-ext, dalvik system or boot using advanced restore.

While it could be the users problem for not having a backup, using only CWM ensures people have access to Nandroid at all times.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] iceshark:
I have upmost respect for all the hard working devolopers here. Pong is awesome!

I understand those who love CWM love it. However it is clearly documented by Darkstone, Mdj, Isis and others that with the CWM process there is documented evidence of more issues and FC on apps and system date vs. Dark Forces Teams simple zip loader.

Plus too myself and many its more of a pain.

with cwm you must have correct version to the Nand, then you have wipe, clean, back up and somtimes there are errent files and commands that end up causing many issues and long threads.

With DFT. Simple, If you have Titanium Backup you simply ensure it is oh automatic backup or simply choose batch backup. Takes a second.

Then simply unzip with z7. Then open DFT installer. Start you phone in Mglr and connect usb and install. Takes about 3 minutes from back up to install and restart.

Then run Titanium batch restore to data and apps. One click does this and takes about a minute.

You are good to go,. Usually very little conflicts and it easily loads and overwrites old Nand.

The only postive i found by using cwm is being able to back up prior Rom. Big deal, You can reflash this with DFT cleaner faster.

Plus while this is a developers site and people like you and I and others are competent enough to use CWM. Lets not forget the thosands of everyday users that screw up there phones with CWM and can not get it right as there is lots of prework needed before flash, problems with flash.

Read the Nand threads here. Ones with both cwm and dft you see much less people with dft with issues. Its just easier for amatuers as well.. Keeps great threads like this one cleaner.

Either way, Its Ponsters choice as well as all developers. I am just saying its not diffacult to offer both as a choice like MDJ does. That is one reason he is so respected amoung new, experianced, young and old

Like you said, too each his own. But it would be nice to have the people to have both choices.:D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] iceshark:
Pongster,

No dissprect but there is a reason MDJ had a record amount of downloads and threads. His build offered both. He mentioned many times when the hard cores were telling him he only needed the CWM that he had less issues reported with people using DFT.

Yes taking a pc out is a bonus. But for the better DFT installs without issues many prefer the DFT. Easier does not always meen better. Calcutta also made statement of being more comfortable with DFT installs.

I am not the developer, you are. Its your rom. You do a great job! I just simply pointed out that your cult following would be double with the left out MDJ people that want to try your roms but have had issue with CWM or want to stay with DFT.

You could easily have 1500 pages as well with your mad skills. I am sure that if and when MDJ comes back or another dev comes up with a great Nand and offers both it will be another 15oo page thread.

Have you tuned in to the FB HD2 android thead? Lots of newbies want DFT.

Thank you for replying . You are the best developer for replying to your followers posts. That is awesome of you!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Cerv3r:
I think you guys should thank him for his work and quit complaining. You all sound like a little girl when she gets her first period.

CWM is much better than the flashable version over the PC.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Cerv3r:
FYI, if you don't like it, use another ROM.

I have always loved his roms. His sd card version was perfect and so is this one.

If you guys have issues and aren't happy. Go buy an android phone and quit acting like n00bs
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pongster:
I don't want 1500 pages of posts asking the same questions over and over. ;)

My sd thread has over 750k views... + 250k views here so I'm already at a 1million, if I even cared about that. But I don't care about page views. What I care about is sharing what I have made for myself to others who may have the same taste for minimalism, speed and stability. If there where just 1 to 10 replies on my thread, does that mean Users aren't happy or they don't have any issues?

Bottomline, this build is designed for the advanced user or the new user who wants to learn something about Android. I've posted ways to theme, ways to make /data larger, even ways to tweak builds in here. Pretty soon I'll be giving tips on compiling your own android ROM from source.

When does page view equal build stability and quality? Same with post count. It doesn't mean that the best members are those who have over 2000 posts of "why doesn't this work?" without searching first.

Who is Calcutta and what does that have to do with DFT installs?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] samson_420:
never mind, my brain is asleep. . . lol:o

Geez, this ROM is so fast, it feels like a different phone.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pongster:
It is pretty snappy. I was surprised how fast it was compared to my old SD builds... :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] samson_420:
I am having a problem with root, I can't open root explorer.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pongster:
You need version 2.13.3.. its the one that supports Gingerbread. Root is perfect with this build so far. :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] samson_420:
I knew I seen it mentioned somewhere:)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] W.Feather:
Loving this build.....went from MDJ's v2.4 NAND of Gingerbread to this, love it.....Just a question, i cant seem to find the UltraLinx icons/dock that you refer to anywhere, all i find is a drop box link that is dead(from what i can tell), any idea where i can get em from ?

Other than that i love this build much smoother than the MDJ one i had installed prviously, cannot comment on battery yet
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pongster:
You need to go to UltraLinx blog and download the demo with the pd template and make your own icons. I cannot redistribute them here. :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] miharkula:
I thought it was there. Finally found it.. Sneaky wallpaper.. I was looking for wallpaper instead default_wallpaper.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] W.Feather:
all i can find on there is a place to "buy now" ... is there a spot to get the demo with the pd templet?

edit: nvm stupid me was on the MNML one, apparantly there is only a demo for the Simp Text one :D

edit2: Another question, is there a way to make the power widget transparant? i know in the MDJ build i had previously it was much more customizable(with what was on the widget and the apperance), dont know if this is a Cyanogen mod thing though?..... looking through the UltraLinx blog, i dont see a spot for the dock or am i just not looking in the right spot?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] RickAstley:
Nice one! Supports the extended battery too. <3
[HD2 Android NAND Development] cahit79:
cant send sms!!

hello guys have a problem with sending sms. I have to change something in the settings? I get fit apn sent nothing as far as I can.

Google Translator

THX
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dubie76:
What does gingerbread have that froyo doesnt? What I mean is that I dont really notice or see any differences...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jmmmmm:
This fixed the Slingbox mobile slingplayer also even though there are numerous reports that the current player is NOT compatible with Gingerbread.

AWESOME FIND GUYS!!!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] birdra:
i have some trouble with the APPS2SD. i read your post about how it works, but i still have trouble with it. i made an EXT partition on my sdcard by using clockworkmod to format. i installed for testing purposes angry birds, which has around 16mb. first, i can't launch it. you said i have to 'move it on the phone' to actually move it onto sd-ext. i did this. i can launch it then, but still those 16mb are "missing" from my NAND space. i watched it carefully, before DLing it i was at 171mb free, now i am at 154, before and after moving it around. also when browsing to /sd-ext, the folder is empty.

do i have to 'activate' or register the app2sd method somehow? i partitioned the sd card after flashing, not before. dunno if this makes a difference.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] 10507:
No, Angry Birds and some particular apps need to be in phone memory to work. Yes, phone memory, and not in SD-EXT. Remember, not all apps can be moved to SDcard.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] birdra:
well, i moved some things from sd to phone and from phone to sd, still my nand always shows 156mb left. and nothing is in my sd-ext folder. i guess my app2sd isn't working somehow. what could be the problem? re-format sd?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ruoska:
Occasional reboot problem

Hi,

1st: Thanks Pongster for all your work, have been a fan for quite some time :)

Then to my problem that i'm hoping one of the brilliant minds here can solve:

Occasional reboots. Usually happen when phone is idle (screen off), but can happen during usage also.

Problem has been there for me in every single nand-droid (and actually with all SD-droids as well _except_ darkstones superram 1.5) that i've tried (8 of them).

Seems to vary slightly based on build (i.e. in 2.3.1 it's ~8 times per 24h, in 2.2.1 maybe 4 time per 24h)

Troubleshooting done so far:

-Searched this forum ;)

-Re-flashed everything, except hspl

-Tried CWM versions and DFT versions, all the same

-Many different radio versions

-Two different SD-cards (Tried without as well)

-Flashed to original WM6.5 and back to magldr + cwm

If anyone here has any ideas what to try next i'm more than graceful for any tips :)

-Ruoska
[HD2 Android NAND Development] samson_420:
I keep on getting fuzzy MMS pictures on T-Mobile. . . .

I tried changing the APN's. . . .

Everything else seems real good
[HD2 Android NAND Development] samson_420:
I have never had this issue on any ROM except for one, I can't remember which.

None on this one at all
[HD2 Android NAND Development] PanSawik:
Hello All i have small problem i cant play to any game ? pls help mee!!!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] 10507:
Yes, Titanium Backup is a very good and usefull software. But what good does it do, if you have a corrupted phone and without a PC on you. How would you restore or flash back to your working build without a PC. But with CWM build, you could restore/install your build within seconds and have a working phone again.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] 10507:
I think he meant

Cotulla
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pongster:
Wait, then why don't I get any issues flashing via CWM at least 20-30 times a day to test? Surely its not CWM that is flawed here. 90-95% of problems have its root in between the Monitor and the chair... I simply followed the instructions on the CWM thread or any other thread.

I was a new user once myself and its not an excuse not to learn anything new. If users can flash and change the Radio, ROM and update MAGLDR they should be able to follow instructions... which are provided on every thread that releases CWM installs, this included.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] iceshark:
Yes, I mean Cotulla. English not perfect thank you.

I do agree you have the best SD version made> Excellent.

No offense but MDJ kernal is second to none and his 2.6 is still the most stable Rom out there and is the only one really a day to day user.

Yours is close...

I did not meen to imply you need post count for ego. I meen his post count high as more people like his as he uses both zip and cwm/

I laugh at newbies trying to flame me with CWM is better. I am not a devoloper of Roms. I am a developer of FTA binary code (satellite) and Other sat. I know what is better and easier.

cwm is easier. But DFT is better. Look at people having issues with CWM vs. DFT.

Simple.

But I leave your thread alone now. No mean to hijack. I simply was giving you fair observation. You other newbies can carry on.;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] FireDemonSiC:
With all the people here involved in heavy debate with. DFT vs CWM, I just thought I would share my views.

The first android ROM I ever loaded on my HD2 was the oldschool SD build that hit before anything else. I believe it was based on AOSP. Buuuut, then came NAND.

The first NAND ROM I ever flashed was MDJs via DFT. After reading the procedure for both DFT and CWM, I did what every noob does: I said F that and used DFT because clockwork looked overly complicated in comparison. However, after I discovered that I was getting the random reboot bug, it was time to reconsider my options.

Next up was puregingerbread AOSP. As this was a CWM only ROM, it was time to learn clockwork. There was a small learning curve, however it was incredibly simple vs the difficulty level people see in it. As far as I was concerned, it was just a few additional steps in the flashing process. So in went AOSP. However, this was the worst performing ROM out of all the ones I tried, and also had random reboots.

Next up, I tried the typhoon CM7 build as well as unofficial nightlies. The nightlies CM7 ROM was the second best performing one I used, however both of these also randomly rebooted. So in a last ditch effort before running my HD2 over, I investigated GBX.

Now, I was reading up on it at work in the middle of my shift with 5 hours left to go. But because I was on clockwork, there was no waiting. I downloaded the ROM to my SD card and flashed it with CWM on the spot. This ROM has been the most stable, smoothest and best performing ROM out of ANYTHING that has ever been on this phone. I am creeping up on 48 hours now without any reboots and the phone is just as fluid as when it was first flashed.

So guys, I know everyone has different tastes and opinions vary greatly, and yes there are a few differences I wish GBX had myself. But let's look into what pongster has given us. He's given us the smoothest, most stable ROM for our HD2s without all the bloatware and useless BS typically offered by carriers. He has done this for free on his own time, and lately I'm seeing post after post complaining how there is no DFT or no FM radio.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] phanihani:
Roms get always better and better with new flashing technologies if any one cant catch up always there is wnmo6.5 at your rescue
[HD2 Android NAND Development] 10507:
Will we have an update before the end of the weekend?:D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] AntonJart:
I use this rom now. I wish there was an option for standard ginger keyboard, since I have difficulty using themed one. (Got to read more into it. Im sure there is one, but sadly it gets squeezed when DPI is changed.) Overall this rom performs well. Had no errors yet.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] 10507:
Have you tried the alternative keyboard Pongster posted on post # 4 or 5
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pongster:
It depends... the next version will be completely compiled from source and I will post the source on the first page so anybody who wants to build a HyperDroid can do so... (you have to know some basic git and linux of course)

I build of the Redux Base and have used some CM7 packages as well as HD2 specific stuff which from charan which I've edited and will post as well.

In a nutshell, HyperDroid is going Open-Source. :)

It will take some time as I'm still organizing the repos and all but it will be made and compiled specifically for the HD2. :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bere09:
Not sure if its just me or not but I am noticing that the fonts in the notification bar for pandora and the phone app are both black instead of white. Any way to make the font color for all notifications in the status bar white? The ones with black are very hard to see with the shaded notification panel.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pongster:
You have to modify the xml inside the app using the statusbar latest event service... in this case... Pandora... use apkmanager to decompile, edit xml, compile, sign and re-install :)

Surely I can't do that for every app that uses the statusbar latest event service and refuses to respect the global settings in framework-res.apk xml. :)

Try going to sonnysekhon's Lucid theme thread and he may have a modified app alread in Lucid Extras. :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] oluwaponmile:
Help Needed

Can anyone help me please.

The phone restarts itself whenever I am installing Motonav or restoring a satnav application or Game applications using Titanium.

Some application will not even be shown after installing them.

Anyone experience this?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] gokkko:
I am having problems restoring backups of apps from TitaniumBackup. The app is restored as expected but the restoring the data has no effect.

I was looking for a solution for some days now but could not find a hint so far. There are some post about	TitaniumBackup but no one seems to have problems with restoring app data.

I have installed from scratch v4.0 and restored all apps via TitaniumBackup, but none of the apps had the settings or data restored.

I never had this problem with other ROMs.

Anyone has a suggestion?

Thanks.

PS: I like this clean and tiny ROM very much.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jotekman:
Been reading the updates to the thread, but one thing that I have noticed, yeah, this thread is becoming kind of monolithic :)

At this point, it IS rather hard to search the thread (manually at least) for an answer to a specific question, and, provided that question has been answered before, it might be 1000 posts back, and not be written in exactly the way the searcher is looking for it. Though I can absolutely see why it would be kind of irritating answering the same thing over and over.

May I suggest something I saw over in one of the threads on the SD section? In the description, when releasing a new version, it had a line reading something like "Discussion for this version starts here" with "here" being a link to the post or near it when that particular version was released. It was a pretty good idea I thought, allowing people who are new, or who left for a few days or something to jump straight to the section that contains relevant information...

Also, have you considered putting in a little FAQ section pertaining to the questions that seem to keep popping up? i.e. Will you add..... "No", and clearly stating that you will NOT ever making a DFT version (and please don't ask about it!), etc. Might save you having to answer it more often than not.

Just a few thoughts. Oh, btw, I mentioned a zillion posts back about Multi-mount not working for me.... It started to work all of a sudden, and I couldn't get why. Until I realized that I had restarted my computer. And then it stopped again. The culprit? I should have known. Droid Explorer prevented the card from being mounted. Sorry about that. it was a smack the forehead with the hand moment :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] truc007:
whoua... it's a nice fighting atmosphere in this thred :eek:

I can't understand why we have to fight for CWM or DFT. He said thousand of times he's doing the build for his own. He shares with us, you like it you can use it. You don't like, just grab another build. Where's the problem?

You want a DFT, offer him some money to make one especially for you, it's useless for him.

I always prefer DFT as I always have my laptop with me. I understand that pongster has his phone with him. It seems he downloads the build with his phone (what's why he put the barcode on first page). So CWM is much better for this type of usage.

Anyway I was not happy with the DFT builds so I went to CWM... I will never ask a dev to make what I want!!! I may give the idea maybe but keep requesting the same thing starts to be boring (and I'm not the dev so I imagine for him).

You want your own build... easy... just make it. I don't think it's complicate, it's time consuming. You do satellite coding, so a build will take 5mn for you (except if you do satellite for ASTRO).

So even if DFT will be easier for me I can live with CWM. Never have any issue, not so complicate and now I can also have local backup on SD.

I also don't like the build/dev comparison. Never forget that a build match a need. No FM in this one, I don't care I don't use it. No LED, I don't care I don't use it (and consume battery). So each dev made a build good for some, xda is not a forum to vote for the best dev. It's to share and help each other. Help keeping this "good" spirit!

Pongster, I like DFT. You don't need it, don't make it!

I like to choose my own mp3 as ringtone. You don't need it, don't make it!

But could you make your build with purple icon, the task bar on the right, another launcher, my own wallpaper, my own ringtone and please send me the DFT file directly as I'm too lazy to download and flash it on my own :D

If I have some bug after I install reading half the explanations, please correct it in minutes as I don't like to wait also. Of course I will never say thanks as you're working for free for me ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] truc007:
Just an idea as I don't use Titanium (tried once but doesn't work so good for me).

If the initial build and the new one are totally different you may enconter some problem to restore.

Do not forget (as stated in the first post I think) that not all apps are compatible with AOSP.

Anyway, I think you don't provide enough info to receive some help (from someone who knows this soft).
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pongster:
Lets see a logcat so we can help.

This was the case in v1 and 2 but in v3 and 4 I've never had that problem with Titanium. are doing a full wipe of /data? I just tested restoring app+data now and it works here. Get me a logcat so I can try to help.

Thanks. I need someone to help create an FAQ for HyperDroid. Anyone up to the task?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] truc007:
It's your answer to DFT requests :D

That's good, it'll be able to build what we want.

So good new for the ones who have difficulties to make CWM working. Now they will have to install Linux and make their own build.

More seriously if you post it with some link to tutos it could be fun to (at least) try to make one. I'm just afraid my wife will kill me if I spend more time in front of my laptop..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pongster:
It does take some time to learn but its a simple process. Tuts are all over the xda forums... and google. :)

The output of building from source is not DFT flashable... its a CWM compatible update.zip ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] javip:
what are the GPS apps used in the screenshot? i like the way the satellites are plotted lol.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pongster:
Sygic Aura :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] javip:
the actual code is:

where client would be the ip of the pc trying to connect to the hd2.

attached is the ping.sh.txt that i "wrote" (to kind a phrase for such a simple line)

rename to ping.sh attachments of .sh are not allowed.

just change the 192.168.0.1 to whatever the client machine you are trying to connect from is.

put ping.sh in the gscript folder on the root of your sdcard

sidenote: with file expert, the script has to be run every few minutes as file expert times out. i have not had this issue with PicMe. if you would like a constant ping to keep the connection alive, then just remove the

-c 3

from ping.sh, but you will have to manually stop the ping and gscript in this case.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pongster:
Nice! how would this be built into the build itself? shouldn't the app requesting for a connection initiate a ping? weird... :)