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[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Can't wait! Thanks for the hard work! :) Are you pretty much part of sz team now?

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Hey great work on the website man! A couple things tho ;its hard to find the nosbc link! Haha I took like 2 Mins before I found it ;)

And the SBC builds say yes in the SBC column which I found to be humorous.

Anyway sz team you guys are progressing fastttt! Getting bigger and better :)

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[EVO 4G Android Development] NyghtGT:
I'm so thankful you guys notice stuff like that.:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] JohnnyBeGood113:
First of all thank you guys for all of your hard work!

Just installed SavagedZen-0.1.2-CFS-HAVS-WiMAX-GB-signed on my HTC EVO and was wondering what should I set " Available governors" to ?

I can't decide between conservative, powersave, smartass or SavegedZen?

I'm trying to get most out of my 1750mAh battery.

Any explenation what each one does is greatly appreciated!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Conservative or sz

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[EVO 4G Android Development] asafegous:
First time I went all day @ work w/o a charge on a wimax/aosp. I'm happier than a blueass baboon in heat.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Lmfao!! Happy nuff to donate ;)

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
BTW I meant the nosbc builds say yes SBC in the column

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[EVO 4G Android Development] asafegous:
I'd love to, but the old-lady says no go.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NyghtGT:
I knew what you meant :D.

Anyone with governor questions, optimization should scoot over to our forums.

This thread on XDA is meant to help publicize the kernel, for in depth support please use our forums...

http://forum.savaged-zen.org/
[EVO 4G Android Development] astrosfan960:
kernal not signed please help

i tried to install SavagedZen-0.1.2-CFS-HAVS-WiMAX-GB-signed.zip from clockwork recovery and it keeps telling me it is not signed correctly installation failed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
I don't use Clockwork, but there should be an option to Disable Signature Verification. Disable it and it will flash fine.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aseercte:
Worked fine for me cwm 2.6.1

rocking the **** out of cm7
[EVO 4G Android Development] astrosfan960:
thanks man worked perfectly
[EVO 4G Android Development] MikeOD:
I think SBC may be messed up in the 0.1.2 CFS GB build. I installed it last night, and the battery monitor widget log of the charging overnight doesn't look like it ever has before...usually it slowly trickles to zero, this time it bounced back up and down a lot.

Maybe I did something wrong though?
[EVO 4G Android Development] lopezpm:
I've been looking for governor explanations over there and can't find any info
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
the SBC code doesnt change in revisions, hasnt changed since m made it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NyghtGT:
Reply in appropriate thread, on Savaged-Zen forum, asking for them?

The whole reasoning behind this is when our Wiki gets developed pulling info prom

the forum will be so much easier than generating it ourselves.
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
Hey, Josh, Luis, And Brandon,

Looks like you won't have to make Froyo kernels much longer. MIUI is going to be migrating to Gingerbread in the next couple weeks.

http://www.miui.com/thread-43985-1-1.html
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
See there's a reason for everything ;-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
Awesome news. Thanks!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] krypticide:
Weird, still seeing an immediate battery drop upon unplugging from overnight charging on AC. Running BFS 0.1.2.

EVO 4G, CM7, Savaged-Zen
[EVO 4G Android Development] bwcorvus:
Using .1.2 I stayed at 100% for 4 hours, then dropped 12% in 20 minutes use :(.
[EVO 4G Android Development] madskills384:
I been using 0.1.2 CFS and using SavagedZen governor and it seems that its not going pass 768 mhz anyone else noticed this? I am actually charging my phone now and its only about 75% full don't see how that would matter and keep it from going above 768 tho...I view the scaling process through setcpu
[EVO 4G Android Development] MikeOD:
What might I have done incorrectly then? I didn't change my rom at all, all I did was boot into recovery, wipe cache and dalvik cache, then flash 0.1.2 CFS GB HAVS over 0.1.0 CFS GB HAVS and then reboot the phone. It's CM7 Nightly 8.

I can try to re-download and then re-flash the kernel, but where else should I try to look to troubleshoot it?

I'm wondering if yours charges the way mine did last night...mine dropped off 100% very very quickly this morning, which it really never ever does ever since I started running SBC.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
I'm using no SBC 0.1.2 cfs and 998 245 conservative. I can not play 2 mins of castle warriors without it freezing up and rebooting. I HATEEEEEE IT. What's wrong?

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Tyzing:
Dang just got really confused by the Pre Alpha Alpha release talk....thought I was downloading the goodies only to be sad....hopefully soon! The MIUI community anxiously awaits!
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
I was fortunate enough to be a tester for it, first time I have been a tester for anything, I was quite honored. :)

That said, my pride has probably bested me, I should probably remove it from my sig. I will say that the one I'm testing is great. It sleeps like a baby (I think while sleeping it dropped 1%? All day?), and it is pretty quick. Mid-1600s on quadrant in 6.1.2, and it was even better in CM7 (no official benchmarks because QS doesn't work so hot in 2.3). It is well worth the wait until tomorrow. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] thunderchicken02:
I switched over to this thread from zen's when it was announced that the drama had been squashed, and was happy to hear that they were collaborating.

With that said, it is very disappointing to see senior members, namely YOU shift, that have provided meaningful contributions to our community resort to such immature methods of handling a minor squabble. Members such as myself look to people like you to take the moral high road when it comes to handling differences. As I recall, you and many others took an "oath" to only provide positive input to xda without belittling others. Like it was said before, all this should have been solved behind the scenes without getting the end-users and moderators involved. Respect has been lost.

This post will probably be deleted but I wanted to voice my disappointment. Hopefully developers can get along in the future.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
I second this. The alpha ran great for me in cm7, even without any of their special mods added yet. No problems encountered with their base version kernel. Everything that works in cm7 works with their kernel.

Excited for the beta release and will happily wait until tomorrow for it. Definitely worth one night of patience :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] krazyflipj:
Damn i should of asked to be a tester. Oh well, I will just patiently wait.
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
As the gentleman who initiated that oath, I wanted to say something.

The goal of development, this community, is to create a fountain which springs creativity, ingenuity, and forage pathways to undiscovered lands Android begs us to quest for. Not merely that, these projects are so deeply ingrained in our pride, woven so deeply into the fabric of our efforts, that it becomes difficult to separate the work from the passion. Outbursts, drama, and negative energy is something we all strive to avoid, but it is human nature that we will never fully control ourselves and are bound to commit such actions.

I am not a coder, not a developer, I am merely an Android devout that cares solely for the improvement of our community and building that which has frankly become quite dear to me. Statements said on both sides were in the heat of anger, and none of us can claim we are proud of that which we say in our own moments of ferocity. I will not even attempt to claim who was right and who was wrong because I simply do not have the knowledge, nor the right, to make such judgment. What I can say is that both parties involved have been recognized by this community as excellent contributors, and while moments such as this are not welcomed they show the passion and verve by which with we all have associated ourselves to this community.

Tensions such as these are not everlasting; recall the exchanges between Zen and Savage mere weeks ago, and now they work together to build something even better. To all parties involved: continue your great work, and we shall continue to appreciate it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thunderchicken02:
Well said, while I agree that human nature precludes a world (or forum) without arguments, the ends does not justify the means, regardless of how great the outcome is.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
I'm offended :( it seems like everyone but me got the alpha. I signed up on forums wrote my email on the website. I can report bugs on cm7. I guess sz team just hates me. I just go to the corner and cry :'(

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[EVO 4G Android Development] xhazyx:
Lol

Don't worry, you're not alone, I didn't get to beta test for savaged-Zen either
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
We're faithful too!! I'm so desperate to have a good kernel that doesn't lag

Edit: I'm gonna hit the sack. Fingers crossed for kernel tommorow

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[EVO 4G Android Development] kpoz:
Shift and Spiicytuna are merely the messengers. What nobody seems to understand is that rules were broken. A number of high-profile developers provide us with ROMs, kernels, etc. for free and expect nothing in return aside from the credit they are due. It's that simple.

The rules were not followed. It's not as if Shift or Spiicytuna ratted anyone out. Believe me, they are not the only senior members of this forum who were aware of the aforementioned transgressions. The Savage and Zen devs are to blame and no one else. Hopefully, they have learned from their mistakes so that AOSP ROM users will have a number of great kernels to choose from.
[EVO 4G Android Development] INebilim:
Now been running the prealpha all night pretty fast. However Iam noticing that my 3 g never turns on. Its stuck on 1x...what's that?

Sent from my iPhail 4
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
I might have to try how is it people
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
I talked to toast. He cleaned the thread no more of this. We will single toast out in credits even though he's covered under cyanogens team. For which any commits were taken from therefore no rules were broken.
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
I don't think rules were broken. However, I do recognize the fact that a mistake was made. I think we rushed ourselves creating the OP, we could've done a better job.

Now we are all adults. If we made the mistake and left something out Spiicytuna could've mentioned it rather than just bashing and making accusations. Shift made his point and I thank him and respect him for that. Spiicytuna took a very immature, childish and unprofessional approach.

If we are devs and we are all here for the same thing which is making our phones better, we should set an example to our users, not create drama. I do appreciate your comment and respect your point of view.

I hope this is the last post about the issues from last night. Let's move on and continue with the development.
[EVO 4G Android Development] KBizzle:
Wow, that was constructive.
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
What's the problem? What ROM are you using? I just checked and the 0004 cam drivers are indeed there so please provide more info and logcat if possible
[EVO 4G Android Development] snandlal:
cyanogen Wimax alpha 2 from shinzul. The screen is just black when i go to camera.....Im not trying to be constuctive. I want cyanogen wimax alpha 2 with camera.....Thats all
[EVO 4G Android Development] INebilim:
I can report great speeds with MIUI 1.14 A few FCs, no reboots so far, 1400 quad scores on 1GHz conservative. Thanks guys

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Try regular cm..

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[EVO 4G Android Development] thanatos_evo:
On h/w rev 3, I was running 0.1.0 version of the kernel (savaged-zen governor). Sometime last evening the phone kinda froze up (not completely - some apps would work, others notably gtalk wouldn't). I rebooted the phone and got stuck on white screen. Tried yanking the battery and waiting, but no luck there. Finally reverted to the stock kernel nandroid and my phone worked. anyone else seen this?
[EVO 4G Android Development] paready:
You rebooted while plugged in. Reboot off charger. You might also re-download and re-flash the kernel for good measure. This happened to me a couple days in a row on 0.0.9 and someone over on the SZ forum was kind enough to share this guidance to set me straight.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NyghtGT:
I had the same issue but it didn't start happening till I began using Caulkilins format all...don't want to say it was related to that but anytime I rebooted I got stuck on the boot screen...

What I did to fix it, wipe data 3x, wipe cache 3x, wipe dalvik 3x...and installed cm 7 and savaged-zen again...
[EVO 4G Android Development] MikeOD:
You're sorta right...I plugged it in before it booted all the way...lesson learned.
[EVO 4G Android Development] paready:
Voltage cutoff

@ Devs: Has anyone looked into dropping the cutoff voltage? This battery has a lot of juice left at 3.6 volts when it throws in the towel. Could this be overridden to something lower but still safe... say 3.2v?
[EVO 4G Android Development] akrod2as:
Not possible. Lipo batteries only have a usuable range of around .7 Volts. So 4.2 to 3.5. Iirc
[EVO 4G Android Development] doeboy711:
I am on Miui and I love Sav-zen's kernels but why is it on Miui we can't get bluetooth to work. I know on Zen's older ones 1.1.0 bluetooth works great. Is there anyway to find out how he did it in his kernel and duplicate it in your Sav-Zen version?
[EVO 4G Android Development] lehalter:
I am about to take the plunge into these kernels. I have been watching and seeing all of the work you have been doing, I'm excited to try this out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] madskills384:
Has anybody else noticed that with the 0.1.2 CFS or BFS using SavageZen governor the cpu doesn't seem to go aboove 768? When I look at the scaling process using setcpu doesn't ever go above 768. Also quadrant and linpack scores seem to be lower using SavageZen governor that smartass or others.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
To anyone who recently downloaded the noSBC builds:

Upon building the Incredible versions of the kernel, I realized a slight error concerning the way I packaged the Supersonic noSBC kernels. I strongly suggest that if you downloaded any of the 0.1.2 noSBC kernels, that you go to the mirror and redownload & reflash. The updated versions are listed as the same files you would have previously downloaded.

http://mirror.munkibizness.com/?nosbc

Sorry for any inconvenience, perfecting the method I'm using to make these builds possible.
[EVO 4G Android Development] unknown1205:
i didnt check if cpu scaled correctly when using the sz governor. i just did quadrant for ondemand, sz and smartass and smartass had the highest quadrant scores so i've been using smartass ever since.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Its with miui and how its coded. I know brd was looking into this but haven't heard from him in a bit. Should be fixed when miui gets updated to gb which is currently being done
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
The sz gov is a work in progress. I haven't been able to get it working the way I Want it to yet cause I've been juggling multiple sz projects. If its not working for you yet use conservative or smartass.
[EVO 4G Android Development] INebilim:
Josh, SZ governor sips the battery very consistently. my battery monitor essentially shows a horizontal line its a good feeling. i used to only get 13 hours max before i get 15% call. now i am going to 19 hours and still around 40-50% left. my usage hasnt change.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
great to know

the biggest thing is not having a gov that jumps to max at heavy load...

This comment is for everyone

Your phone has to have HIGH utilization before it goes to a high feq. i think i have it 70% utilization before it jumpms up, and its 50% step inscrements. so if your using your phone and the utilization is not HIGH it will stay at a lower freq and save you battery.

Other than some tweaks and renaming the SZ gov is identical at this point, just so you know... i didnt want to start customizing the smartass because so many people like it the way it is... i decided to KANG it and build from there. to not disrupt your daily use.
[EVO 4G Android Development] paready:
Wikipedia and Battery University both disagree.

Wiki, Lithium-ion polymer battery:

"The voltage of a Li-poly cell varies from about 2.7 V (discharged) to about 4.23 V (fully charged)... During discharge on load, the load has to be removed as soon as the voltage drops below approximately 3.0 V per cell (used in a series combination), or else the battery will subsequently no longer accept a full charge and may experience problems holding voltage under load."

We push the top end at 4.2v. Why not push the bottom end too?
[EVO 4G Android Development] PCap79:
So does that mean setting the governor to SZ is better on battery life than Conservative?

I've always kept it set to conservative 245-806 and screen off at 245-245
[EVO 4G Android Development] andnad:
editedit...
[EVO 4G Android Development] ggeralds:
curious....anyone else put this .2 ver on mikfroyo? I did and got some horrible screen image tearing all over the place. Reflashed it, same issue....went back to toast...all is right with the world....:confused:

**EDIT** DOH!!! Please confirm......just noticed that this is a AOSP kernal...it'll screw Sense ROMs up all over the place...right?
[EVO 4G Android Development] defjef123:
Isn't Mike froyo a sense rom?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ggeralds:
Yes....I think I had a brain fart and just caught that fact......just ignore the idiot above....(everyone else does...:D)
[EVO 4G Android Development] ggeralds:
Thanks for the quick reply.
[EVO 4G Android Development] MikeOD:
Mine still isn't charging properly.

I downloaded the kernel again, re-flashed my rom (wiped all first) and then re-flashed the kernel...let it boot fully, used it a bit, plugged it in, turned on CPU monitor widget, and went to sleep...woke up to see it didn't properly charge the way SBC should, and it dropped to 95% very very quickly after unplugging it, not like it normally does after charging overnight on SBC.

Again, I'm running 0.1.2 CFS GB with CM7 nightly #11 now, had the problem with nightly 8 and the same version of the kernel too...I wish I knew what I did wrong :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] MikeOD:
Well...I just wiped everything, then did the format_all.zip deal, then flashed CM7 #12, then Gapps, then the 0.1.2 CFS GB kernel again...I hope that fixes it, my battery dropped a bunch this morning too, and the charge history was all erratic again.

I don't know what I could have done wrong, but I do think it's a problem on my end, since nobody else has it. I hope it's fixable, I like when SBC functions properly.
[EVO 4G Android Development] svennn:
Check the CPU governor. The default is ondemand. I read somewhere that it needs to be set to smartass for SBC to work. I noticed the same issues you did and I just made the change to smartass myself.

I will have my answer tonight.

-Steve - If I'm wrong about this, someone please correct me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] twiz0r:
governor does not have to be on smartass for sbc to work. I use performance as my governor and sbc works fine

Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] svennn:
Like I said....some smarter will correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks for the input.

In that case, I also have problems with SBC. I was using ondemand. I'm switching it today just to play around and I'll report back if something changes.
[EVO 4G Android Development] twiz0r:
No problem. I wish I could change my governor from performance. My phone lags a lot and freezes if I use conservative, ondemand, or smartass. Battery life is not a huge deal to me though

Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] MikeOD:
I've used the Savaged Zen governor since the first version of this kernel that I flashed, and SBC has worked correctly up until the past few days. I won't know if my attempt at wipe/format all has solved the problem until tomorrow morning though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
You guys really need to address your SBC questions in the SBC thread. the mod has not changed since M came out with it. We cant modify the mod, too risky. If the gov changes the amount of volts used changed, in 1.1 we changed some voltz too.

You cannot look at a battery monitor and judge if the SBC is working or not... its not something that breaks, or is begin worked on. if your battery monitor voltage looks different its because we have different vz and changes in the gov... the battery is actually better and more stable drain.
[EVO 4G Android Development] liquid307:
Kernels without HAVS

Do you have any WIMAX_Kernels without HAVS for GB I have 1 of those picky_ass evos that don't like HAVS. Yea the only way I was able to run any HAVS_Kernel on regular ROM (NON_AOSP) was with flashing Caulkins_Undervolt_50mV_settings zip with Ziggy CFS_HAVS-012111 zip. Also, In your repository you have some kernels that are WIMAX FROYO, are these for regular roms (NON-AOSP)? Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
We do not build noHAVS kernels and probably never will, sorry.
[EVO 4G Android Development] RileyGrant:
I love this kernel, however, recently I've been checking on my battery during charging just to see what its up to. Now, don't get me wrong, but I heard that anything above 4230mv can cause plating in the cells, and yesterday I saw my batter go to 4233mv while charging. Should I be concerned?
[EVO 4G Android Development] cordell12:
4300Mv can cause plating...
[EVO 4G Android Development] RileyGrant:
My bad, didn't mean plating, I just meant that supposedly 4230mv could cause issues in general.

Heres the article I'm referring too, from our very own XDA:

"The issues people were bring up is that the Li-Ion batteries are charged to the point HTC set them to was for safety of the battery. Li-Ion’s can be unstable at times, but Ms79723 programmed safety temperature and voltage “stops” to kill the charging is they get too high. Bad things can start to form, I said can not will, if the temperature gets above 140f and voltage gets to or past 4230mV. If the mV gets to 4230mV it can causes issuse. If it gets to 4300 mV it can cause plating. People are also speculating that the SBC kernels are going to kill your battery and or shorten the life. With the price of eBay batteries now days, if the SBC kernels give you drastically ( which has been seen ) more battery life, then why not? The highest seen on the SBC kernels is 4210mV, which is under both values for issues to start."