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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Fallen Spartan:
Yep, confirmed by mods and a few on CM team.

Looking forward to this

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] EdKeys:
At about the same time they'll probably start building Ice Cream Sandwiches every night!:D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Fallen Spartan:
LMFAO............ though they are tasty

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] J-Hop2o6:
I just noticed the most recent nightly (216) is 2.3.7.. can't wait to see 4.0 (ICS) on my G2! Hopefully sometime this month.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] OriginalGabriel:
The bump to 2.3.7 doesn't do anything for us, it adds NFC which is currently only available on the latest Sprint handset (can't remember the name of it).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nemiroG1:
OK, went through this procedure, and have installed the .03 radio. But, I believe this fix is for GPS issues, not general reception issues.

On that, I went through Denver recently. The phone was halfway schizophrenic, in that it would switch between EDGE, 3G and H constantly, never settling down. When trying to do data downloads, it would hop around, until it finally landed on whichever type it was going to use, then it would finally download. Showed full bars for signal when this would happen. Sometimes I will lock the thing on 2G, just so it will not do that, and get some data. Is anyone else having this issue? I am thinking it is related to my general reception problems. In my area, EDGE is all we have, so I usually leave it on "2G Only".
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] martonikaj:
Samsung Galaxy SII Sprint Epic 4G Touch....

The AT&T SGSII has NFC also.

The Nexus S has NFC also, but only the Sprint version has Google Wallet support
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mralexsays:
One other thing for you to try (if you have access to one) is to try a different sim card for a bit. If the one you are using is a few years old, maybe just get a new one from T-mobile.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] J-Hop2o6:
I know.. I was just mentioning it since its doesn't do anything for the Vision really.. but I have noticed my Smartbench 2011 scores increased about 30-50% in the recent Nightlies.

Old Prod.= 15-1700's | New Prod.= 15-2000's

Old Games= 13-1500's | New Games= 21-2300's
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] heybobitsme:
I believe I read on some of the blogs that there are bug fixes in the Android code as well as the NFC support the Nexus S 4G and the like. Just my two cents.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] PooN_HeaD:
i cant wait until ice cream sandwich comes out (which i predict is OS 3.2 or 3.5, unless its already been confirmed then u can correct me) and when it comes to nightlies the first time do u think we'll have to do a wipe-all. or can we update as normally?

HTC Vision (G2)

Android 2.3.7

CM7 Nightly #216
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nemiroG1:
Hmmm, not a bad idea. I will call them on Monday.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
Good to know... I was curious about how it might affect vision users at all if any.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] martonikaj:
Rumors are 4.0, but I don't think anyone has a good idea. I tend to think 4.0 if it really will unify tablet and phone OS.

/speculation

ICS nightlies? Surely a 10000% wipe and fresh install. If not for massive update reasons then just to prevent the inevitable bugs from making that big of a jump.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
I agree... that would make the most sense. I hope that is true otherwise it would bother me slightly. I am being serious just in case you were wondering...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
3.2 came out a while back as an update for Honeycomb ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lawalty:
My opinion, I really don't see a real ICS rom coming for the G2. What we will be seing will be ICS attributes here and there balanced with performance (go CM8) because of the growing limitations of the G2.

Yeah yeah.. the devs (bless their hearts) will attempt, and sure enouph with time, there will be a true dedicated ICS rom, but slow as cold molasses on a frozen day.

ICS of what I heard works best on tech that is a generation or two beyond the G2. Its to the equivalent of our dear G1 running CM7 (gingerbread). Though it can happen, but it'll be slow and problematic.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
You might be right. I hope not though. My Desire Z is using less than half of its RAM in normal operation, surely the issue with running Gingerbread on a G1 is more about starting to run out of room to fit it all in ? I could be way off though. I of course don't want to believe my Vision is that out of date yet :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] SomEngangVar:
Honestly I think it'll be the same thing people were saying about sense 3.0 being too much for older phones. Look at our phones now. We've got quite a few 3.0 roms that run damn well. Better than my sisters sensation most of the time. If a nexus s can run ICS then so can our phone imo. If these leaks are anything to go by then I don't think we have much to be concerned about anyways. Especially if ICS brings hardware acceleration into the picture.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Nospin:
If they can cram Froyo on the G1, we'll get ICS on the G2. I don't think we'll have a problem with this update. But by the time the next major version rolls around, we should all probably need to renew our contracts...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bandur:
Froyo run even on Vogue or Kaiser that are even older and not made for Android ... The biggest challenge may be get a compatible kernel ...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] martonikaj:
If they can fit Sense 3.0 or 3.5 on the G2/DZ, they can fit ICS on it lol. I'm not that worried. If these leaks are to be trusted it runs on the Nexus S, so there's no reason why it can't run on our device.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gtmaster303:
erm.... i don't see why ICS will not run well on the G2. Our phone is very nearly on par with the big boys, sans dual cores. If the G2 can't run it, that cuts off A LOT of phones, including the old nexus phones.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Detafewa:
The previous one was 2.3.5.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
Lawly, you've been around long enough to know that's b*ll****, lol! Remember, we got 2.3 of the G1 for goodness sake! And one key factor about ICS is its supposed to seal off the fragments of tablets and handsets. One key problem addressed is the fragmentation of just the phones how we have cupcake 1.6 running on some and GB 2.3.7 on others. That's if they stick to their promise but its a bit hard to believe, I know. I doubt ICS will use more resources than Sense UI 2.1... Even though sense has a framework built into GB.... its still a skin either way you look at it. My only concern is if our system partition is large enough to run it without spliting it off with the sd or losing our eng hardboot to run a sense Desire Z one which I don't like the idea of.

---------- Post added at 03:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:18 PM ----------

Another great point...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gtmaster303:
does anyone know how to remove all the extra languages from CM7? i looked in the barebones wiki, google, and CM forums.

no dice...

any help greatly appreciated
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Hot_Hands:
Can we wait til the 11th before we declare that the sky is falling?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gtmaster303:
to be honest, i'm looking forward to the new iPhone release more.

This release of iPhone will essentially make or break Apple's mobile phone market.

If it's not impressive enough, more people will trickle to android, hence starting the fall of iPhone

It will make waves, for sure

(running for flame proof suit)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] J-Hop2o6:
Lol.. We'll see tomorrow..but iphone's market share has been stagnant for awhile now.. It'll still be popular, but nothing "magical" anymore.. Maybe a 4" iPhone?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
Some of y'all might remember me meantioning that the newer builds break the graphics on Klaxon Alarm... I found a nice replacement for free called Alarm clock plus. Works well, tons of options and is 100% reliable.

About the iphone, yeah the new ones haven't been that groundbreaking. They have been more or less playing catch up with Android and its amazing numerous features. The only thing notable it will allegedly have is a bigger 4" screen and a better camera. Big whoop! Android high school football rules! :D (for those who remember Bill & Ted's excellent adventure;) )
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] martonikaj:
I don't see people leaving the iPhone for Android in droves if the iPhone 5 isn't magical. I guarantee they'll sell a **** ton no matter what. Apple upgrades slowly but they're not stupid. They know whats going on in the industry and they know what to do in order to keep up on their market share.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
plus, even if the iphone 5 isnt "magical," iOS 5 makes iphones be like an android, in a sense. so, many wont really switch over to android. would be nice if iphone had some android things in it. i really do like the iphone's build quality and sleek design :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sisterchick:
Glad to know Alarm Clock Plus works. I'm finally retiring my old G1 and moving on to the Desire Z for now. I've noticed there are several guides out there for rooting. Is the one on the CM Wiki the best to follow today?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gravis86:
Use this one:

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ptesmoke:
X2 wiki is flawless
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nemiroG1:
Still trying to figure out the cell reception issues with my G2. I have been finding that the clear coat on the back of the battery cover is slowly peeling off, and that if I touch the bare metal with my finger, the signal will drop off instantly. That being said, I sprayed a new coat of clear acrylic on it, and that problem went away.

I also followed this post:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=33984067&postcount=33

And that also seems to be helping (somewhat). I do notice that the selections for EvDO and bands are non-existent in those menus, for me.

mralex's post a little while back about the GPS fix got me to thinking (uh oh). If GB can break GPS, what's to say that it does not also break something to do with the phone/radio? It *seems* that this thing worked a bit better when I first got it (Froyo) than it does now. Any thoughts on that?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] autom8r:
Go pick up and use a Samsung Galaxy S2, makes the iPhone 4 feel ancient, I don't know how Apple is going to compete with this hardware. It is the next generation but now.

Also, iPhone will never allow the customization and freedom of Android. Sure, they will offer some Android features, but iPhone users will still struggle just as much with the walled garden concept.

This iPhone 5 is going to have a tough time tomorrow, what the heck can they do that Android hasn't already done? I'd say chances are slim to none that it will have an innovative feature never seen before.

Oh and to stay on topic, what's up with the Market in 216? I still can't update apps reliably after reinstalling the Market, clearing data and cache, etc. Ideas? Experiences?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] OriginalGabriel:
By chance do you have two Google accounts on your phone? I have two, my main account and a secondary Gmail account (which isn't set to sync) and I've been having issues with the Market associating itself with the secondary account and not my main one.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] autom8r:
No, just 1 account but two Android devices synced to Market: my Iconia tab (which is freakin awesome) and my Desire Z.

Will keep tweaking the market and see if I get some results.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] SteveRiley:
Later versions of Titanium Backup have a control in the preferences screen where you can select which account to associate to the market. Have you tried that?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
apple can compete with samsung hardware. they are capable of it. idk what is going to happen, but apple is not dumb. they will try to match the current high end phones on the market, or surpass it. i am no apple fanboy, nor an android fanboy. i am trying to look at both sides. apple can compete in the market, no doubt about it.

if apple does not have a major improvement (specs) to their iphone tomorrow, they will struggle.

but in the end, it doesnt matter which one is better. its all about personal choice. some ppl dont really care much about specific things a phone can do. they want something that works with ease, and, i must say, the iphone is a pretty easy device to use. ppl like you and i prefer an android, for we want to do more to our phones :D

very off topic...i know. i can edit this post, removing everything so it doesnt clutter this thread. just wanted to throw in my two cents :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ptesmoke:
I played with an iconia tab today...wow...seriously sick device. Wish I could afford one! Maybe xmas :)

On the iphone note....

Apple will need some serious power under the hood, but from rumours it won't be over 1ghz, and not dual core. Leaving me to believe they're hoping to sell it more as a cosmetic device, which to me, it always has been. Seriously, take any iphone, go into sms, open a thread and the kb, now rotate to landscape.....serious roflwaffle lag reminesant of low end winmo 5 devices....seriously..w-t-f?

No way would I ever be able to cope with the lag I've seen on friends iphone 3g's and 4's. Some jailbroken as well.

But as stated the device appeals to the masses because "everyone's got one" , although I can see this changing with the younger generation. Mom and dad now "rock" iphones, grandma even has one, tho she doesn't know how to use it.

I can see it become cliche, all the "hipster's" preferring something "different" from the boring blahOS.

Just my .02
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
I vid you velcome to da G2! (Count Dracula voice;))
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] OriginalGabriel:
I checked that when this first started a few nightlies ago, that wasn't the problem; no clue what the problem is though, it did start around the same time not flashing gapps resulted in there being no Google accounts.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
Hmm, putting it that way, becoming cliche, it makes sense. Good point! All I use that's apple is iPods and Macs. For phones, I am hoping I will be staying with android forever

I hope cyanogen makes ICS for the g2. That's my concern...

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] djfoo000:
keeping on topic, Flash 11 still returns blank screen on flash videos on Dolphin HD and stock browser, though can still be fixed with permissions change.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] J-Hop2o6:
What is the permission change to get v11 to work?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bombadier:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1116618
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hrk:
Welcome, it looks like a lot of G1 owners went to the G2. :) I have a european Desire Z and followed the guide on XDA.

Only complaint: w/ the stock Sense there was a "vertical thin area" towards the right of the touchscreen which would not answer to presses.

W/ CM7, MIUI and other non-Sense ROMs, when the phone is charging, 90% the touchscreen will "invent" presses on the lower right corner and it will become unusable. Power-button-ing OFF/ON seems to fix it for some seconds.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] heybobitsme:
A reboot fixed it for me. I also had issues with it on Ubuntu 11.10 beta, but I found a fix.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] damngood98:
i've been posting on & off lately trying to fix my wife's phone, bouncing from one radio to another. been 2 days now on the .03 radio with no dropped calls. i've been hitting the thanks button for all the help but just wanted to come back and say thanks again everyone. she's happy, i'm happy! :cool:

incidently, for all those concerned about dual core, her g2 is every bit as fast as my sensation. granted, developement is slowly coming along on the sensation but it's my second dual core phone and it's not as impressive as i would've thought. galaxy tab, that's another story. it's a flying beast :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] autom8r:
I never say this, but I am going to say it this time: TOLD YOU SO!

That felt good.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ChronoReverse:
Anyone here use Widgetlocker?

When I try to pick an alternate wallpaper, it seems to crash on 216. Doesn't do that on 183.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lawalty:
(knock knock knock)

hello, nightlies, are you there?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] OriginalGabriel:
219 came out this morning
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] SomEngangVar:
Works fine for me. I just changed my wallpaper last night.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Ditamae:
Working just fine for me too...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kaijura:
219 with the new ILWT 1.2 kernel. All's good. :)

As for other notes, recently I discovered I could use my Mytouch 3g slide (evo 4g/incredible2/etc) batteries in the G2/DZ. Took a little bit of dremeling near the terminal edge, but works fine and I'm definitely enjoying the battery life gain.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ChronoReverse:
Strange. Must be time to do a superwipe then lol
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lawalty:
What? Then whats wrong with Rom Manager? In Rom Manager, I select "Check for Rom Updates" and it comes back that there is no updates. I even cleared Rom Manager data, reboot and still no update.

I guess ill have to do this manually.

Thanx.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] OriginalGabriel:
No clue, showed up for me in RM just fine; are you on wifi? Sometimes it doesn't refresh well on the carrier network.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rkwhyte2:
Dang didn't show up for me either I hate it when this happens.

Kirby
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] androidtoy09:
I hate to bring this up again but does anyone still have the issue with Flash where it only plays sound but no video on websites?

I still can't see any video except sound on websites with embedded flash videos
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lawalty:
I again wiped the rm data, and still no #219 updated. I then completely uninstalled rm and reinstalled, and still its not reading the #219 update. Its not even listing it in "Download Rom".

And I tried on both carrier data and wifi.

When I select "Download Rom" and select the CM7 nightlies, I can see where it querying the CM servers with is slight hesitation and download the information, but no #219. Its shows #216.

Any suggestions?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] J-Hop2o6:
Use older version (10.2), or do permissions change
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] choppa26:
Where do you get 10.2 flash from please.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ptesmoke:
Lol...winning!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rkwhyte2:
I had to download the file manually put it out on the SD card and then tell RM to install to " Install ROM from SD Card". I just have it wipe Dalvik and backup the current ROM worked fine for me. Good Luck

Kirby
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
Just change the permissions... do have root explorer?

If not... get it! It will save you a lot of time. Go into data/data/com.android.browser/app_plugins/com.adobe.flashplayer/.macromedia/Flash_Player folder and long click config.data and in that popup menu, select permissions and uncheck all the options. That's it... simple!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] OriginalGabriel:
Well I'm an idiot ... 216 is the latest showing for me as well, flashed that over itself thinking it was 219 (remind me not to flash while still waking up). So yeah, looks like its something on RMs side (first CWM failing, now RM ...)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ChronoReverse:
You could also use ES File Explorer which is free and can do the job too.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one! Its been around forever! I never realized it allowed root access stuff.... weird! I've only used it once or twice when it came out so I guess that's why. Nice find!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] damngood98:
oh, and while you guys are trying to get 219 going 220 just popped up :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gravis86:
I really don't understand why you guys don't just bookmark the download page and download and install manually if Rom Manager is so unreliable.. it's not even difficult.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] OriginalGabriel:
I have the download page and the commit page bookmarked but this is the first time a nightly (now two in a row) didn't show up in RM for me.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Yeah usually ROM Manager gets new nightlies pretty fast. Now the last few are missing, so I just went in and flashed them manually. It's just a few more extra steps, no big fuss really.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lawalty:
Same here! I got both pages bookmarked, and I did it myself. But I normally use rm.

Im wondering (not to sound conspicuous) but how connected is rm to cwr? Im now using 4ext recovery which I just updated right before the issue with rm not showing the latest nightlies.

The reason why I would even go there is, I just flashed the latest cm7 nightly on my wife's Vibrant, and for rm to see the CM7 nightlies, the proper cwr for the vibrant had to been flashed first.

See the connection? Im wondering if this latest 4ext update did something to rm?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Ah, never mind.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Carphedon:
Is it just me or do the last few nightlies have problems with wifi? Whatsapp message dont get send, pages randomly dont load, marked acts all weird, looks some times no data gets through?

The problems started happening when the android version was upgraded to 2.3.7. I wiped cache, dalvik cache and efs. Should i do a clean install?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
Might be that time again ;) unless, you're using some weird kernel?

Build 220 has new scrolling preformance option. Works well especially in the browser! Tell me what you guys think...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lawalty:
Oh, please tell me.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lawalty:
Really im not trying to dig or make anything up. I even thought about making a seperate thread, except this effects just the CM nightlies.

Even to see the nightlies in rm, I had to buy a premium license (one for me & my wife).

So why isn't rm showing the latest nightlies?

Is it something as simple as the build-bot just not forwarding them to the rm servers?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Carphedon:
I think it indeed is that time again, well atleast i have something to do then at work ^^ Will do clean install of 220, hope al works fine after.

Cheers
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ajk1311:
If you really don't feel like wiping and restoring your whole setup again, I was having wifi problems after flashing 216 and tried this app FXR Wifi Fix and Rescue and it actually fixed wifi for me. My wifi wouldn't even scan to see available networks but now its back to normal
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Carphedon:
That was a bit to late, i am already undergoing the trouble of reinstalling everything ;) What does that "FXR Wifi Fix and Rescue" do anyway, it sounds a bit like a crAPP ^^