yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] youareme7:
HTC and Moto might not be angels in keeping up with their customers, but this is brutal; I have no plans on buying Samsung anytime in the near future.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bazil749:
So very sad...

The saddest part is that most of this will never change anything. I've read tons of articles on the huge sales of the Galaxy S line. They've made their money. I'm guess the vast majority of buyers are quite happy with their purchase. I mean, MobiTV, Layer, and Avatar [apps], who wouldn't be happy?

It's the techies who are pissed. And because they make up the small majority, Samsung will keep doing what Samsung does.

Long live XDA
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zaiger:
So if what OP is saying is true, then the Galaxy S Froyo update hasn't even reached any of the carriers yet for them to add their modifications. Add 2 months minimum to the release time for that. If anyone who isn't rooted needs a reason to root here it is. Warranty is generally regarded as hardware issues, a broken camera or screen etc, and the repair centers are assembly line at best. Plus it is all one-click-rooting these days, which means you can unroot before you have to send it in if you do need to use your warranty, and it's EASY. There are guides all over the internet with how to do it. Waiting for OTA updates is silly and pointless.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kelce:
My first post here so hi!

Out of all the rumors this one makes the most sense so far. It's hard to not give these rumors any credit because Samsung is doing very little to disarm them. There's either no response or cookie cutter response from them.

I bought the captivate because it's on paper a great phone. Even in practice it's a great phone MINUS the GPS malarkey. I have learned my lesson about getting a phone based off of what it might be able to do one day instead of what it does. I also didn't do my research to see samsung's updating history. I had the eternity which was expected to have an update(that it didn't get) but I didn't really care too much because I really liked it and had no problems. It was only later that I found out how dismal samsung's updating was. It wasn't like some of these phone users wanted the updates for luxury. There were some phones that went un-updated when they really NEEDED an update. I can count 6 phones that didn't get promised or needed updates and that's not including the galaxy s series.

Le sigh. I think i'm so irritated because two of my top three reasons for getting this phone was to not have to get a standalone gps system and the flash ability.

Well I am an XDA member now and I'll just mosey on to the custom ROM section.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] D4N14L:
It sucks that a company which is supposed to be looking out for it's consumers' interests would do this. Capitalism, I tells ya. Good on HTC and others for not doing this.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] phoneturf:
The way Lifehacker links to this story is : "In short, Samsung wants to charge carriers for features added to Android, the open source operating system that power the phones; carriers don't want to pay. So... that's annoying." Does this mean stock android customized to the hardware (Samsung's fault), or "features" such as bloatware and custom restrictions it has to add to 2.2 to make it acceptable to each carrier (carriers' fault)? I'd like to know.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] punkr0csux:
Who ever runs the Open Handset Alliance needs to revise the terms of being a member. They should require an AOSP rom be available for all handsets, and that they must be up to date (if the in question hardware can properly run the newest version). It's not unreasonable to require a stock experience in Android, and its unfortunate that no manufacturer gives the user a choice.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] labbbby:
Very informative, thanks for re-posting that, missed it on Ars.

Will keep that in mind when recommending phones for friends.

In Canada, Samsung has done a descent job at updating their devices a few month after it launched (even though it should've launched with 2.2 but that's another story) so I started recommending them to some of my friends over other phones...not anymore!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Step666:
It makes no sense.

1 - why wouldn't at least one of the networks come out and said this in publicly?

Why sit there and take all the flak until now when there's someone else to blame?

2 - what are the chances that none of the networks would've paid up?

At least one would've so that they could laud it over the competition?

3 - how come every network here in the UK has the update?

If Samsung were charging, at least one of them would've passed to save the money and if they aren't charging networks over here, surely the US networks would be up in arms? And it's not like they couldn't find out if the policies differed - T-Mobile have a presence in both countries and last time I checked, Vodafone and Verizon were in bed with one another.

No-one has offered up an explanation that addresses any of these points and there's zero evidence to back up the OP's post.

Until then, this rumour should be be treated as it deserves and ignored.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] brilldoctor:
Havent orange rolled it out though? what gets me is they are THE SAME COMPANY NOW!!!!! http://everythingeverywhere.com/

Anyway why do samsung charge? Its not like they are even having to distribute it over a mobile network. you have to mess with KIES (grrrrrrrrrr)

At least HTC update their firmware.

here is how i see it

Samsung want you to buy their devices claiming it has android technology and is the next best thing since sliced bread and it will constantly be updated, when in fact samsung are being like apple - locking down their file systems causing lag (and you thought HTC's NAND protection was bad - RFS is worse) and charging the carriers unlike apple who charged the users

Shame this doesnt void the apache licence which android is published under

http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] brilldoctor:
might be best to put your email like i have above to avoid spam bots
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Step666:
You've completely missed my point.

T-Mobile HAVE rolled it out, as have every other network in the UK I think.

What I'm saying is that if Samsung were charging for the updates, don't you think that at least one of the networks over here would've decided it wasn't worth it?

As for Orange and T-Mobile, they're in the process of merging but there's still some way to go and their retail presences are still pretty much separate, meaning they sell different range of phones and update their firmwares independently of one another.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] brilldoctor:
sorry i misread it

still there is NO excuse for the RFS file system
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Step666:
Agreed, that was just criminal.

But am I not right in saying that Gingerbread uses a whole new file system?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Milkman00:
The thing that BURNS me on this is the silence. NOBODY (i.e. Sprint or Samsung) is being transparent about this, which is causing threads like these, and so much uncertainty in the market space.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] davanw:
Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems to be like all this hatred should be directed toward the US carriers, and not Samsung.

Euro and Canadian (and pretty much every other country) carriers obviously payed up for the updates. What makes US carriers so special that they can decide to hold out?

You are all paying, what, 80 bucks per month to your carrier? What gives them the right to take your money and then decide on your behalf, to hold out on your updates? Clearly Samsung has the updates ready to go...

If the carriers didn't want to pay for the updates, why would they even start selling the phone, only to reneg on their contract with Samsung?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] samslembas:
It wouldn't be good far anybody if charging for Android updates became standard procedure. Carriers are already being slow enough with getting them out. So, if this information is true, I don't feel that it is fair to fully blame the US carriers for not paying up. My major complaint with them would be that they didn't publicly complain about the situation.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] brilldoctor:
Id imagine it ises ext4 which is linux and android native
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kelce:
As far as I've seen it the networks haven't taken much flak at all. It's all fallen on samsung's back. I don't see a #neveragain campaign going against any of the carriers. Only ATT and T-mobile have really been accused of having a hand in the delay.

Who is to say that the laws in other countries even allow for charging? The point is NONE of us know what's going on. Samsung has been quiet about what's going on so it's our call on what we believe or not. I never said I even believed the rumor. I just said it made the most sense. I can see samsung considering it a feature update instead of any other kind and saying "i'm going to charge." If there was a bit more transparency within samsung I would ignore the rumors but without them saying much more than a peep I will entertain any possibility at this point.

To be honest though, I think they are just major fail at development and weren't ready for the pace of the need for development that the android market brings and how desired the updates would be.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dietrichmd:
Aren't all large companies that way?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Centerman:
That is rediculous and makes me quite ANGRY as I have recomended the Captivate to a number of friends that have gone out and purchased it. Even got one for my wife. Now I find out we're not being updated because of politics and greed.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jubei71:
In Hong Kong, the old batch of Galaxy S handsets needed updates which can be downloaded from Samsung's Hong Kong website at no extra cost. The carriers are completely bypassed - I got mine handset from a carrier and upgraded to 2.2 myself.

The latest batch of Galaxy S handsets come pre-installed with 2.2.

Given this, I find it hard to believe that Samsung charges extra for upgrades as a general rule. Of course, very likely market conditions differ in the US. For a long time, I got totally confused because of the all the variants of the Galaxy S handsets available in the US ... none of them even look like the international version of the handset.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Step666:
Still, why take any flak if it's someone else's fault?

And even if you weren't taking flak, you'd still help your position by exonerating yourself of any blame for the delays.

There's no law against it here in the UK.

And even if there were laws preventing them from doing so, I doubt that the US networks would just roll over and accept that they were being asked to pay for something that other companies were receiving for free. They'd be up in arms about it.

Samsung are not required to provide updates, so if they wanted to charge for them they could but they wouldn't because they'd burn a huge number of bridges. At the end of the day, their success is reliant upon strong relationships with networks.

Sure, maybe someone like Sprint wouldn't have the balls to stand up to them but the larger networks like AT&T and Verizon would both take umbrage - they both have the iPhone, they both have very-high-spec handsets from manufacturers like AT&T HTC and Motorola either on sale or coming soon, they could both afford to play hard ball.

You say that but they've still done better than a lot of companies - I bought a Motorola Defy that was released ~6 months after Froyo, yet ships with Éclair and won't be updated 'til Q2 this year.

Sony Ericsson has just announced that they're not updating any of their X10 range past Éclair because they feel that with their customisations it's as-good-as, if not better-then Froyo? Who's leg are they pulling?

And I know you didn't say you necessarily believed the OP but to say this makes any sense is to give it more credit than it deserves.

As it stands, all this is is a massive troll and a whole lot of hysteria.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingharsha:
Guys i m using DARKYS v8.0 rom...

i have seen themes in themes and apps section?

See how to load the themes ///////

and by chance if i dont like that theme...........

How can i come to back default darky theme given by the rom/?

THis is very big doubt for me??

Plz reply guyz?

and sry for my bad english!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidsl:
Darky's using R64's theme i guess. Most of the themes can flash to your device via CWM. Just get the theme zip archive and flash it via odin or CWM. If you want to get the defaulut theme on darky's rom, flash the R64's latest theme. hope i said everything correctly. if not, correct me ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingharsha:
yeah thanks for the above information ..........

and can u tell me with ease how to install that WP7 theme and please tell how

to remove that completely if i dont lyk it//////////

Thanks in advance
[Android Themes] vajda:
Hi,

Is there a way to change the "over scrolling" color on Gingerbread?

(That orange glow that shines when you reach the end / beginning of a list)
[Android Themes] rori~:
yes, you could morph it..it´s just 2 png´s

-overscroll_edge.9.png

-overscroll_glow.9.png
[Android Themes] jordonkobe:
But I cant find the two files on my framework-res.apk
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eddyrick:
Hey guys,

I have flashed my SGS to I9000XXJPU and it is working brilliantly.

The only issue I am getting is when I plug my device into USB the drivers are installed onto the machine but I can't connect to Kies or see my SGS as an attached device?

has anyone else seen this issue or have a fix?

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] themate1987:
maybe your device is in debug mode
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heniuro:
It is a known issue with XXJPU, already solved.

Try this, it worked for me:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=872874

1. Root

2. SGS Tools (at market)

3. Apply script from the link above

4. ?????

5. PROFIT !!! ;-)
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaykim85:
Anyone know where I can get the Bell stock firmware for Galaxy Tab???
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ordio:
Instead of making another thread, figured i'd bump yours up :)

I too am looking for a copy of a RotoBackup of the Bell Canada Galaxy Tab Stock firmware.

Thanks.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hburn:
Same here... we need this for warranty .

if someone can help!..
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neuropass:
This should be the stock firmware. I haven't tested it though.

http://www.multiupload.com/EIQQV7S6H8

Pass: samfirmware.com
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ordio:
Thank you...

I didn't realize there was a newer firmware for it though... i believe i had the jj7 one (p1000UGJJ7) or somewhere in the JJ range.. lol.

I will grab that right away.

Thanks!
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] awryter:
Can you comment on whether JM7 is the correct firmware for Bell users? I need to submit mine for warranty, too.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ordio:
I dont' know if it is... I did go from a JJ firmware (can't remember if it was 3 or 7) directly to roto's jme.

According to samfirmware, there is the jj3 and then it goes to jm9.

At least these are for the "americas" versions.. i don't recall my tab being named p1000L, although it probably was..
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] awryter:
No, the L version is for Latin "Americas" so that version is likely not for Bell users. I am fairly sure the stock Bell firmware is JJ7 which isn't available for some reason on Samfirmware.com... Is it possible for someone to use RotoBackup to dump a stock (or rooted stock) JJ7 and us use that to restore to it?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ordio:
Ahh that explains it.. thank you.

I presumed then that our bell tab's were P1000M (as is the Galaxy S being an M).

Let's hope someone has a bell stock roto backup.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gochris:
I just bought one today to try out. I've already installed Apps and such. But I can reset it then do this roto backup. What are my steps, I won't lose root if I do a factory reset right, but do I need to do that?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ordio:
Hi there.

That's great, thank you!

If you do a quick search for rotobackup, that will explain how to do the backup.

Here's the Link to Rotobackup.

You have to be rooted to do the backup.

I don't believe you will lose the root, although its not hard to re-root :)

I haven't done the backup myself but will attempt to so I can do the next upgrade.

thanks again!
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gochris:
**** sorry, forgot to do this earlier. I just returned the tab back to the store. Again, sorry :(
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PrinceOD:
I should have a backup of a mostly vanilla (few apps, that sort of thing) Bell tab from Dec. I'll have a look tomorrow when I'm back on my office computer.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ordio:
That would be great, thank you PrinceOD...

Much appreciated.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] awryter:
Any update on this? I'm desperate here. :)
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PrinceOD:
Well, I had a look at my backup and it's not completely vanilla (rooted, couple apps) but if it'll help, I can package it up and upload it somewhere. Let me know. Sorry it took so long, it was on a portable drive that I'd loaned out, thought I had it on my desktop as well!
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ordio:
Hey there.

That would be great. In fact once reflashed we can always do a factory reset.

I'm not sure how big it would be nor do i know where one can send the file. Perhaps that multiupload site. Ive never used it so i dont know off hand.

Really appreciated!

Thanks!
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlandon:
I have a rooted Bell SGT with some applications installed. Let me know if I can be of any help. I haven't done a device backup or anything like that before, although I do a lot of this on BlackBerry devices - it won't be difficult for me.

Anyway, let me know if I can be of any help!
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ordio:
Hi jlandon

Yes that would be great if you could do it as well. i provided a link earlier in this thread for how to do the rotobackup.

Please and thank you very much.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlandon:
One little thing I just thought of, I performed a carrier unlock already. Will this be a problem?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ordio:
Nope, not at all.

Mine is already unlocked, and i believe the backup isn't dependant on that anyway. Its easy to relock if needed.

Thank you.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vatorooster:
Bell Tab

My bell tab needs be flashed to the original firmware any ideas where i can get a copy, also is it possible to flash firmware P1000MUGJJ7 to to the European firmware
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hburn:
Still no bell stock file....bad...
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sherwinchu:
Any update(s) on this thread? Thanks in advance to whoever can provide the stock Bell rom/firmware.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dieno1001:
stock bell firmware

Bump, as i need it too
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smd2008:
Bell Stock JJ7 FW Available

I've made a copy of my Bell Galaxy Tab FW using the Roto Backup technique which you're welcome to try. I haven't try restoring it to my device yet as I *just* got it and am still a little hesitant - so use at your own risk - I will assume no liability for what it does to your device. The image is version JJ7, rooted using z4root (you should just be able to use the same to unroot it), and unlocked using the hex edit technique (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=843323 - or specifically, I changed byte 0x181469 from 01 to 00 using a hex editor - so you can just reverse this to lock it again - assuming this file is even part of the image - I have no idea)

I would also consider the alternative of restoring to the JJ3 "Provider Samsung P1000 Firmwares" available on samfirmware.com. After that, upgrade to the most current via Kies. I have not tried this and assume no liability for what this does to your device either.

Let me know if you'd like my Bell image and I'll send you a link to it.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ordio:
Wonderful.. would love the link for it.

Thanks!
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] splazit:
I want one as well for the backup. Greatly appreciate for your effort.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smd2008:
@ordio: I tried to send you the link by DM, but my outbox shows 0 sent items. Did you get it? - UPDATE: I got your message confirming. Thanks.

@splazit: Will try sending it to you now...
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ordio:
Yes i got the link.. thank you.

I'm surprised you didn't see my response.. i wonder if i didn't send it from my tab. lol.

Thanks again!
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smd2008:
LOL - yep, just saw it. I seem to be having inbox issues. Sorry for the mixup.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ordio:
Its no worries :).. Really appreciate you doing this in the first place.

I haven't needed it, but it would be nice to have just in case i have to return it... although its been 5 months so not likely :)

Again, thanks again!
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chris28j:
Can you please upload and post a link for the download?

I'm really desperate for this stock ROM because of warranty issues...

Thanks.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sherwinchu:
Hi, would it be possible to share the rom? Thanks in advance!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] leaskovski:
Hi Guys,

I played with one of the original desire roms from my SD ages ago, and I used to be able to initiate Google Voice Dialer from my bluetooth carset. I have now switched my ROM to NAND and am using a Desire HD based version and that feature nolonger works even though I have added the voice app from the market.

Is there anyway to iniate an application from your bluetooth headset on 2.2.1 (well a desire HD build anyway)?

Cheers
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] LiFE1688:
Did you install Google Voice Search?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] leaskovski:
Yeah, but it doesn't trigger from the headset. Strange as it did for the ROM that i originally tried.

Edit:

This is the one I first used and it worked on....

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=736545
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] LiFE1688:
Sorry, you said won't trigger from carset? What do you mean?

You have a car with the communications package that includes a bluetooth unit? You initiate the call on your phone via BT, by hitting the call button on the steering?

Or one of those aftermarket units?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] leaskovski:
Its an after market unit (a parrott). Its just like using a normal bluetooth headset. The button works in the same way and has worked for wm 6.5 using Voice Command, and has work for the Android Rom used in the previous link.

The phone is paired/connected to the bluetooth headset/unit, you then press the button on the headset/unit, that in turn launches a voice dialler app.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rao_7:
Hey guys,i own a HTC HD 7 and i think it's the best phone ever made but i was wondering how to get the zune background image on the phone.I'm from Malaysia so we don't have a zune account here.