[HD2 General] IanMc:
DaveShaw

That was a very helpful post, the link you posted was most helpful and I especially agree with the well-crafted response from dumpydooby.

I apologise if I have posted in the wrong place and quite understand if this thread is moved to the correct place.

You are also correct that discussions of this nature are time limited.

Obviously we can all see that this is a subject of passion to many.

In my humble opinion there should always be a 'what we think is the best ROM for device X at the moment' thread. When it does get too old or argumentative etc. then just start a new one.

berbecverde

I disagree, I think there will always be a need to discuss the most popular combination of ROM/Radio/Apps of the moment. If you feel strongly that we should not have this freedom then I feel strongly that you are wrong.

lms1407

You just revert to personal insults, I'll bet you say things like 'this conversation is over!'

Avon76

Do you really think that your post was helpful? Honestly?

Massive post wot I prepared earlier follows, look away now if you're not interested.....

I suspect that this whole thread will be deleted or removed or force closed by the censors very soon so read it while you can.

Let me illustrate my points here, remember that I am talking about my dislike for censoring these forums in general for any topics but let's use the topic of discussion of ROMs to show how the censors are damaging the integrity of the forums and shooting themselves in their own feet at the same time.

Let's do it with a thought experiment.

Developers A, B, C and D develop ROMs for device X and make them available to users.

Users, quite within their rights in my opinion decide to discuss the various merits, likes and dislikes about these ROMs in a thread called 'Best ROMs for device X' where one user says 'I liked the graphics on A's ROM but I really liked the apps on D's ROM and I found C's ROM to be a bit unstable and I'm using ROM B at the moment because ...... '

Please imagine your answer for this question.

Who will benefit from this discourse?

Developers A, B, C or D ?

The users ?

Everyone ?

It is quite obvious that some of the users with the ability to close threads have the opinion that all ROMs should be tried and that there should be no shortcuts and new users should be railroaded into having to go through all the procedures that 'everyone else has had to do' and their only method to enforce this policy is to censor what is allowed to be posted but I would like to point out that in doing so they are going against some peoples wishes, look at one of the posts in that other thread (created by a senior member) where one user states:

However apart from all the unseen damage that censorship causes, in this particular case the developers might get some valuable insight into what users are actually looking for, a healthy competition might be the result and then who do you think is going to get the benefit in the end? Everyone!

There will always be those who want to try every ROM and Radio etc. but at the moment these people are restricted to the individual ROM threads if they want to share the results of their hard work and anyone who wants to see an objective discussion of the merits of the different ROM/Radio/Apps versions is forced to look on other forums on other websites.

The developers never really get to know what it is that the users really want.

Look at the mechanism at the moment, the user goes to the thread of developer A and says 'you're ROM is the best! Fantastic!, would it be possible to adjust this bit here?' and the developer thinks cool, they really love my ROM and he may or may not get around to adjusting that bit there.

Look at what it could be like:

Yeah, developer A's ROM is ok but I user developer B's ROM at the moment coz A's doesn't do this ...'

No kissass required, if developer A wants everyone to use his ROM then he'll need to make it like everyone wants or better.