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[Milestone 2 General] sahilarora911:
@tarnaman: did u do any particular tweaking with Juice Defender or just used JDs default settings??
[Milestone 2 General] skulljoi:
mine have amount of 2 days without charge, but how you use JUICE DEFENDER to get 60% battery after 2 days?

you turn off your phone? turn off 3g?

tell us
[Milestone 2 General] SimonMago:
@tarnaman, you use jds default settings?
[Milestone 2 General] falecomcyber:
How can i strip all of the motobloat junk, like u did?

___

And, for the jd's user, ure using default configs?

If not, can u pass urs?
[Milestone 2 General] tarnaman:
i use juice defender in agressive mode. i dont need an "always-on" data-connection. when i want to check mails or updates im getting the phone out of the standby mode and then do a check. after that, i turn the display off and juice defender also turns the data-connections off.

at least, the phone was continuously 5 days on until the battery became empty.
[Milestone 2 General] samirpq:
Juicy defender worked fine for me. Also, installing go launcher saves some energy during the day. It lasts my entire day (7am 18pm) without social widgets enabled but gtalk.

Another thing that I installed was overclock widget (rooted phone) and put it to downclock my phone when screen is turned off.
[Milestone 2 General] WongJames:
My M2 drains battery so fast, 60% left after 3 hours.

Already using juice defender, undervolting by milestone overclock and underclocking when screenoff using setcpu. But seems they don't help to extend the battery life :(

And the battery usage stat seems strange, mobile standby is using most power, instead of the display (juice defender switch off data when screen off already). I didn't put any social networking widget on my ADW EX.

Would having a factory reset and skip the login of motoblur help saving the battery? :(
[Milestone 2 General] nininhocovre:
The battery usage shows the app by the amount of time they runned, so if standby is at first it means that your phone stayed more time in standby than with the screen on.
[Milestone 2 General] WongJames:
oh thanks;)

so it is different from Milestone. I get use to the Milestone that the battery usage shows the % of battery used :)
[Milestone 2 General] nininhocovre:
I don't know about Milestone 1, but the default behavior for android is to show the % of time that an app has runned, so the battery use screen is more like a indication that an app is probably killing your battery, not the real deal.
[Milestone 2 General] agent008my:
There might be a part on ur motherboard thats draining too much juice. I had the same problem on my phone though the battery depletion wasn't as significant as yours. Check with ur dealer and claim it from ur warranty. Its apparently a common problem with the milestone range
[Milestone 2 General] kezs:
anyone else getting this? I've had the MM2 for a couple of days, and I noticed the same behavior as with GOT's leaked kernel for MM1. phone won't sleep after disconnected, unless you reboot. spare parts shows running - 100% any time after a charger has been disconnected, and goes back to normal after a reboot.

using brazilian stock (no mods).
[Milestone 2 General] kezs:
Yep, definitely got the 100% running after disconnect bug. No one else has this?

It's a widely known but solved Milestone 1 issue from the first 2.2 leaked kernel.

Battery drainage on MS2 is insane anyway. Worse than with MS1. I can't imagine why they'd take a phone with a small battery for its use (MS1), add a battery-hungry mod (motoblur) and release it like that, with the same battery size.

I installed root uninstaller, but I'm not sure which apps I'm getting rid of. Any suggestions?
[Milestone 2 General] r2beta0:
I'm using stock Brazilian Retail SBF with LauncherPRO and my phone doesn't have this bug. My battery could last 2 days if using 2G connection and turning off sync when in front of computer.
[Milestone 2 General] rsb007:
GPS and Wifi/Data connection get so muco juice.

Im using SwitchPro, always disable them, you will have about 30% at the end of the day. I use GPS and data with a little care and music about 5 hours/day.
[Milestone 2 General] lambstone:
can some one post a list of the apps that they frozen? i.e. the motoblur related apps?
[Milestone 2 General] PetrusDLX:
Using 20min internet, 20min games, 30min voice call, 3g is about 1/2 day here
[Milestone 2 General] Gogz_:
My setup is as follows:

Using Tasker to shut down internet when not in relevant app ie. only check mail every x hours. Also use SetCPU to underclock to 800MHz when off charge and 300MHz when screen is off (no noticable lag).

I don't use facebook/twitter/insert-social-validation-mechanism-here so no syncing with that.

Use at least 3 hours music a day.

Lots of texting.

Few phone calls (I'm male so these barely exceed a minute)

Moderate Browsing.

WiFi only on when I'm at home.

Auto-Brightness.

I'm getting 1 day with 3G ( Switching between 3G/H seems to kill the battery pronto) or 2 days with just 2G. Probably would get more if i didn't piss about on the thing as much.
[Milestone 2 General] frenetico:
I'm fine with the battery endurance throughout the day.

With 1-2 hours of music daily, some browsing and facebook and medium-heavy texting it lasts from 7:30 am to 10 pm without recharging it.

To save some juice I'm just turning 3G/HSDPA on when I need it (with APNDroid) and I kill unnecessarily running tasks (with System Panel light).

Just to ensure that I don't miss anything I've got the most time a charger with me. :D
[Milestone 2 General] agent008my:
killing apps does not help save battery. in fact after killing certain apps, ie Yahoo Messenger, Skype, etc they start back up again in the background. when apps are killed and started again, they use quite a lot of ur processor, hence using battery. leave the apps running in the background instead of killing them. as long as they are inactive they will not affect ur battery life much

i have my 3G on the whole day, about 1.5 hours of voice calls, medium-heavy texting, and about 30 mins of gaming with certain communications apps running actively in the background and i get home at 10pm with a balance of 30% charge on my battery. pretty decent id say.

screen set on auto bright, with night time saver battery profile, data saver switched on, and misbehaving apps monitored using watchdog lite. :)
[Milestone 2 General] MegaBubbletea:
Also...if ur around computers alot during the day it would be handy just to leave ur phone plugged in the charge itself.

It's a Lithium-Ion Polymer battery so all those myths like 'memory effect' don't apply here.
[Milestone 2 General] r2beta0:
Also, if you're using a CPU Governor different from performance, you don't need to create a profile on SetCPU lowering the freq to 300 when screen is off. It's already done automatically by the governor as it is also automatic to increase the frequency when needed. Though the process by which the freqs are changed differs a bit. For example: "On Demand" sets the cpu to minimum freq when screen is off, and sets it to max freq when screen is on. Conservative, Interactive and Smartass sets the cpu freq based on it's usage, using all available freqs instead of just max/min.
[Milestone 2 General] elhariz:
my battery life can last for more than 48 hours without charging with: 10-15 calls (30 minutes), 20-25 sms, some angry bird, facebook, android market and email.

the configuration is something like this:

- use juice defender and set it to aggresive profile.

- use setcpu (for rooted phone) and create some profile (screen off min 300 max 300; temp > 40 min 300 max 600; battery < 30 min 300 max 600)

- always use 2G (use 3G only when download from market)

- turn off data transfer (only turn it on whenever I needed to)

- gps, wireless and bluetooth off.

a lot of guys in the forum say that you can use launcher pro to disable motoblur widget that drain all of our juice, but I think as long as we disable the data sync(facebook, email weather or whatever), we still can save our juice. I'm pretty sure about this even I haven't tried launcher pro yet (I kinda love motoblur theme).
[Milestone 2 General] crazyteknohed:
I just bit the bullet and ordered a BP7X off fleaBay.

My battery lasts about 12 hours max and it doesn't seem to make much difference whether I use it moderately or not at all. Heavy use halves this amount of time.

It's all well and good telling people to disable GPS, Wifi, Bluetooth, 3G, Motoblur, widgets and auto updates but I didn't buy a top-end phone with the intention of disabling its features. With my old N97 --- as sh*te a phone as it was -- I would have Wifi search, Bluetooth and widgets permanently on, emails set to push and the screen at pretty much full brightness and it used to give me about three days' use. Granted, the slow CPU made using it feel like wading through treacle in a pair of flip-flops, but still, a phone that uses as much juice should come supplied with a battery that can cope with the demand.
[Milestone 2 General] agent008my:
i tried juice defender which i got from the marketplace. unfortunately i didnt notice any difference whether i set the software on default or aggressive mode. in fact, i think my battery lasted longer without juice defender rather than with juice defender. (no other settings were changed, and i only got 12-16 hours usage with juice defender. for the same usage id get approximately 24 hours.

any thoughts?
[Milestone 2 General] anupash:
Seriously dude, there is some problem with your phone/battery .. because on 2g and maximum battery saver, phone will easily make through 24 hours unless you are browsing on wifi for like 3 hours continuosly or playing angry birds for 2-3 hours ...
[Milestone 2 General] imakdevries:
People people,

What we must not forget is that the battery takes time to reach his full potential. I had it with my wildfire en now with my MS2 after a week of three the battery started to last longer.
[Milestone 2 General] agent008my:
a battery usually reaches its full potential after 3 complete charges and discharges. it shouldnt take any longer. unfortunately, the potential of the MS2 battery hasnt changed much after 4 months of ownership. this is mainly down to the fact of the battery being grossly underpowered, stacked up against the hardware specs of the phone. a 1400mAh battery is a bit on the low side. a 1500 or 1600mAh battery would have been much better:)
[Milestone 2 General] cmxyz:
did anyone tried BP7X battery it's said it can provide twice time than using BP6X.but it need a special back shell
[Milestone 2 General] crazyteknohed:
I just wanted to give some feedback on my BP7X but before I do that I would like to mention about JuiceDefender.

I implore everyone to install JuiceDefender. As I said before, I do not want to cripple a smartphone by having GPS, Bluetooth, 3G, background data etc all turned off and with JuiceDefender I can leave everything switched on or set to automatic without sucking the life out of the battery. JuiceDefender's ability to schedule background data (I set it to once every hour) seems to provide the biggest boost, reigning in the power-hungry Blur interface to manageable levels.

Right, now onto the BP7X. I have a sneaky suspicion that there are a number of dodgy BP6X batteries out there. Reason why? So many contradicting reports on the forums regarding its lasting ability (or lack of) leads me to believe so, but moreso because, at 'only' 450mah more, the performance of the BP7X absolutely shats on my old BP6X. Together with JuiceDefender, this thing lasts days.

Yes it is expensive if, like I did, you have to source it from the US and, like I did, get stung by customs and yes, it does add weight and bulk to an already hefty phone, but the improvement on battery life dispels all of its negatives.

With light usage I end up with a battery that's between 80% - 90% full at the end of the day, compared to the 10% - 20% I was getting with the BP6X. Heavy usage (around 5hrs MP3 playback, an hour or so of browsing, half hour of gaming and a bit of streamed TV) leaves me with 50% - 60% at the end of the day, compared to a flat battery by around 6pm with the BP6X. Honestly, the difference is immense and I would whole-heartedly recommend the BP7X to every Milestone 2 owner that was as disappointed with the battery life as I was just after I bought the phone.

Now, if only Motorola had packed it with a BP7X in the first place...
[Milestone 2 General] wickedsaint:
BP7X

Just wanted to know, where did you get the BP7X battery from and also the back cover needed for the extended battery?

Thanks
[Milestone 2 General] crazyteknohed:
I got it off this eBay seller.
[HD2 General] nishanthabgw:
My Hd2 (USA T MOBILE which is unlocked in Sri Lanka ) it always get restarted when trying to make a call , sometimes get stuck at the stick together screen after sometime I can reboot , I tried custom roms but still I have the problem...guys what should I do....
[HD2 General] Snarksneeze:
Try replacing your microSD card with one of a higher class or lower size.

Try checking to make sure your SIM card is clean and installed properly.

Check your battery terminal to see if it is corroded or dirty.

Check your battery connectors (on the back of the phone) to see if they are bent or warped.

If you have a service shop nearby, have your battery checked. If need be, replace it with an extended battery.

Always task 29 between flashes to ensure no spare data bits are floating around.

If you had not already mentioned the custom ROM, I would have suggested that for sure.

Behind your battery door, is your hard-reset button yellow or red? In the early days of this phone, the yellow button phones were proved to be of very poor quality and people were returning them to T-Mobile for exchanges by June, 2010.
[HD2 General] nishanthabgw:
Hi dear Snarksneeze ,

i will check what u have mentioned , actually this phone belongs to a friend of mine & he recieved it frm a friend in US , he recieved the device without the battery so he had to weight 3 4 weeks to get a battery & he unlocked the phone & started facing this issue , The reset button color is yellow allso mine ( tmobile unlocked) but i dont have any issues works great with NAND android rom ,

What do u think...?
[HD2 General] rr5678:
That's good. Maybe that one phone is faulty though.

I think it's the red ones that are the poop ones. The yellows are the better quality ones.
[HD2 General] nishanthabgw:
now every time i try to flash the radio or the rom it cant pass the radio installation at the point where the radio gets flashed there is a error ,any one pls help:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
[HD2 General] rr5678:
Oooooooh, that's not good. I think someone got themselves out of that, I'll look for it.
[HD2 General] sirphunkee:
Just to make sure the OP isn't confused any more about this...it was indeed the red button models that were associated with a higher failure/return rate. No concrete proof exists, but there is a good amount of anecdotal evidence.

But, even with that knowledge, the truth is that even the yellow-button models aren't 100% fail-proof in terms of the hardware, so it neither eliminates or confirms hardware failure in this case ;)
[HD2 General] TheATHEiST:
This red/yellow theory, is this for TMOUS versions or EU also?
[Milestone 2 Themes and Apps] cadu.c.moraes:
When I first began my researches for new smartphone, I think I read MS2 came with a Motonav Demo. I've just got mine but cant find it. Can't find on Android Market either and Motorola Shop don't even show any app (is there something wrong or they haven't launched it on Brazil yet?)

I saw some posts in other forums showing the path (containing a download link) to install it but not sure if I can trust and if it will work on froyo. Anybody?
[Milestone 2 Themes and Apps] kalbit:
MotoNav was included in Milestone 1. Milestone 2 has google navigation by default.
[Milestone 2 Themes and Apps] cadu.c.moraes:
Understand. The big difference is that Google Navigation doesn't have offline maps. Or is there anyway to get offlines maps for it?
[Milestone 2 Themes and Apps] kalbit:
Yes, google nav is far from perfect :) I'm not sure if motonav is available for standalone purchase, but there are few others offline nav apps for android. ATM I can remember copilot and navigon. Copilot looks and works nice, but I've heared people complaining about maps being a bit outdated and not precise in some areas. At least in Poland, other countries may have better support. I can't say anything useful about navigon: I looked it up and I didn't like it's interface and graphics, so I've chosen copilot.
[Milestone 2 Themes and Apps] cadu.c.moraes:
Find out that Google Maps 5.0 can work offline using its cache. Just need to navigate trough the map within certain zoom while you still have a connection (such as Wifi).

Some other interesting improvents, too.
[Milestone 2 Themes and Apps] skulljoi:
for offline navigation try use IGO, is a good gps navigator ;)

you can find it at 'black market' or buy it on IGO SHOP for android ;)

i recomend
[Milestone 2 Themes and Apps] caeci11ius:
Google's navigation caches routes before you take them (in the previous version there was a setting to allow it to do this on 3G, but I'm not sure if it's still there). It also stashes away all the stuff it's downloaded before in case you need to go there again. It uses vector graphics rather than tile based stuff too, which means you get a certain amount of available zoom without downloading any more data...works pretty well.

That said, if you need completely offline navigation, there are several programs from GPS vendors available...
[Milestone 2 Themes and Apps] elhariz:
I recommend google maps 5 :)

does google maps 5 has been released?

I just downloaded "google map 5" apk but I'm not sure about it cuz the feature is not like whats described in the video.

In google maps 5 it's true that I can tilting and rotating with finger control, the maps loading time also fast but in my "google maps 5" the zoom level is not as big as in the video and there's no 3D building (I searched bryant park in google maps 5, I found it, but it was totally different with what it is look like between in my MS2 and the video trailer)

my question is: do I downloaded the right apk? :D
[Milestone 2 Themes and Apps] agent008my:
your motorola should come standard with google maps 5. however, if it doesnt, you can get it from the marketplace for free. there is however a new version of google maps, which is 5.3. according to the post, it should be available from the market place. however if you cant locate it, there are links to download the apk and then install it.

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-maps-5-3-for-android-available-now/

since its new, i suggest you read the comments before downloading it.
[Milestone 2 Themes and Apps] elhariz:
nice info

I've downloaded it and it's still the same.

I still can't see 3d building (in new york) and the zoom level of map terrain cannot reach the level I want.

I'm curious about why I cannot find this apps in android market..

is it because google maps 5 still in beta version or what?

at least, the satelite view is great :)
[Milestone 2 Themes and Apps] agent008my:
if you do have the latest version, im not quite sure why you cant see buildings in 3D. i dont seem to have a problem seeing buildings in 3d in new york.

however about you not being to search for google maps on the market place, i had the exact same problem. apparently the reason behind it is because google does not distribute applications in Malaysia and Indonesia and many other countries. therefore, the only other way to work around it will be to root your phone in order to obtain google maps and other such software. as soon as i locate the relevant link ill edit this post with it.

EDIT: here is the post i was looking for. its a similar question i asked some time back and this is the answer i got:

I also from M'sia, but i able to update it by doing some tricks.

U can't update directly if u are from Malaysia because currently M'sia still not in the Market List that fully distributing all applications. This link will provide you with that list:

http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138294

Solution: Go to Market & try to search "MarketEnabler" and u will know the trick.

U will be surprised by then.

Sorry, there is one more condition: Ur phone need to be Rooted!!

alternately you could view the thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=902151

Hope it helps
[Milestone 2 Themes and Apps] elhariz:
Thank God I've rooted my phone several days before.

so I installed market enabler and choose to fake my network as verizon.

and it's like magic..I searched "map" in android market then from out of nowhere suddenly google maps showed up at the first row (that's amazing)

then I choose google map and it says "open" rather than "update". It indicates that my maps is in the same version (5.3) with the one in android market.

Then I decide to uninstall update and reinstall it from android market.

It's work, now I can see 3D building on my maps (I like the moment when the buildings growing up from the ground, it's cool) :)

thank you agent008my now my maps become more colorful :)
[Milestone 2 Themes and Apps] agent008my:
you're most welcome. glad to be of help:D enjoy ur maps in 3D :D
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] samspunker:
Since there are no games currently available on the South Korean Android Market, I found these two markets that seem to be reliable and relatively safe:

SAM / SlideME at http://slideme.org

and 1Mobile Market at http://www.1mobile.com

And 1 Mobile Market seems to have mostly the free apps.

I'm careful about what I DL, have a very limited budget for this stuff!
[HD2 General] gdsbalaji:
Hi guys, i am facing exact same thing which dannytgt faced (http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6707785&postcount=1)...but with no luck what so ever.....was running a stock rom in my hd2 3.14....wanted to try wp7 and did a task29....after that...hd2 doesnt go into bootloader screen....tried all possible combinations with/without sd,sim, holding vol down, vol up, both with power tapped...power holded etc etc...hd2 always goes into stick together screen and doesnt progress as there is os to load....opened up the mobile and tried with a pin to push the vol down switch directly also....all hardware keys were working gr8 (including vol down and up and power keys) whn win 6.5/android was running.

i know for the fact that this is reversable....if only my hd2 can get to bootloader...i will hv os running in a jiffy....

any ideas ppl? my hd2 is 3 months old :(...no warrenty cos i bought it in US and using it in india...
[HD2 General] gdsbalaji:
bootloader dont load

some more details...tried to task29 (doloop) with 100% success and then my tmo hd2 wont go into bootscreen what ever i do...its stuck for ever in "stick together"...i know there is no os to load...but i dont understand y cant my hd2 go intobootloader

so far i tried

with holding volume down and power key with a single tap

with holding volume down and holding power key

with holding volume down, volume up and power key with a single tap

with holding volume down and reset button

with/without sim

with/without SD

with/without plug in wall charger

with/without plug to pc via usb cable

observations...when i pull out the battery and put it back in and then connect to computer when the phone is still off....the charging indicator LED glows in orange.

when in this mode if i switch the phone on with power/end key....it doent start...i have to pull the usb out, the orange LED still glows...and if i tap the power/end key nothing happenes...i have to pullout the battery to get it to start and eventually get stuck in "stick together"..

would really appriciate if any1 can help me get my hd2 into bootloader screen...
[HD2 General] gdsbalaji:
resolved the problem myself.....hd2 is working like a charm....thanks for all your support.
[HD2 General] nicedude_abad:
Good to know it got resolved. What did you do? In my case I had kept the battery out for a while and put it back in and it started getting me into bootloader with VOL down and Power key.
[HD2 General] CrAzYiaN:
Good to know you got it working.