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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
Considering that the new option has been in existence for less than 12 hours....I would say its not a good time to judge that.

I have been using it since around midnight....so far so good, but its to soon to tell.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] onelikeseabass:
I'd like to know this as well. Not from a CM7 viewpoint, but Linux in general. Time to start Googlearning.

Edit: Looks like Android specific info was a better route. Increasing the heap to 48 should reduce the frequency of apps being flushed from memory. I suppose this means less read/write activity and therefore could (marginally) increase battery life.

Anybody care to confirm or deny my noobish understanding? :)

HTC Vision (G2) - CM7 B91 w/AUS radio
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MRCLrider:
Would anyone car to share upload speeds from the midwest area. I have witnessed my UL speeds drop dramatically over the last few months. I now have max UL speeds of 480kb, it was as high as 2mb.

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xsteven77x:
I am in pa, and that's one of the only things that ever IS consistent. Upload speeds are always in the 1.4 to 1.5 mbps range. ALWAYS. Sounds like your in dire need of an efs wipe.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] BootloopedMillennials:
Well I had my first hiccup with VM Heap Size at 48mbs (not quite sure?). I was using the browser for awhile and it shutdown on me. No popup messages (to wait or force close) or anything. Never had that happen before.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] autom8r:
On 90, three times today phone froze, vibrated once, menu lights stuck on and stayed in this state totally unresponsive for 20 seconds each time. Anyone else experience this?

-Auto

http://autom8r.com
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] michagol2:
Can anyone share nightly 77, I want to jump back there but I don't have the saved file. On CM site link for 77 seems like its down as well. Thanks in advance...

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] wujxin:
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] michagol2:
As I said the link on Cyanogenmod.com doesn't work, I'm looking for someone who downloaded it and can upload it somewhere, thanks neway tho...

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] EdKeys:
Uploading to my dropbox now...I'll pm the link to you when its finished.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ultma75:
Yeah the old links don't work for some reason
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gio_Az:
I haven't seen it mentioned yet, I know kinda late, but on the latest build the only issue I've encountered is the phone being kinda laggy when unlocking the phone but smoothe sailing afterwards. Is this a normal problem on 91?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rraxda:
EdKeys, can you post the link? I would like to grab that also.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rraxda:
Had it happen on 91 once today, not long after I installed.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nakeman:
CM7 nightly for vision

http://goo-inside.me/cm/vision/nightly//cm_vision_full-77.zip
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] PJcastaldo:
Just flashed the wifeys G2 to #91 and now no data.. Os it just me? Flashing back till I figure it out..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] noodles2224:
Is the unsuccessful download still persist?? That you have to go clear data from market and all.. Ive been using the tmo leak and downloads are great but just miss some features about cm
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] merdely:
Trying again works for me. Every time.

Also, Opera almost always works the first time.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] DJMartini:
I'm having this happen too ever since new kernal .35 introduced

G2 CM7 Nightly XDA App
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] DJMartini:
Just curios what rils are used for CM7 nightlys for matching radio?

Does anyone know?

G2 CM7 Nightly XDA App
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] yozgatg:
#91 works great here, the new kernel is a blessing, it feels much smoother and the battery life is much better than before

using the latest 26.08.04.30 radio, had no problems whatsoever

only little bug i have is with the translation, on the Dutch language, there are 2 German translations left in Applications > Development (end app long press and device name are in German)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] DJMartini:
Are u flashing matching rils it just use cm7 defaults?

G2 CM7 Nightly XDA App
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] yozgatg:
just using CM7 defaults, had no problems with it whatsoever, gps locks instantly, and my signal bars are always full
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KCRic:
Just curious, which was the last "stable" nightly that used the .32 kernel? Just having too many issues with .35 and of course no one else is using .35 for their custom kernels. I love using nightlys but currently I need to have things a bit more stable for a couple weeks.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Radioactive Death:
#77 from what pershoot says about his kernel.

I have had sporadic laggyness, and 10-15 second freezes ever since the .35 based kernel. UI is slow sometimes as well.

But with the latest TMOUS radio and #90 I'm getting great battery life. After 12-14 hours of use, I'm still at 70%.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] BootloopedMillennials:
I haven't had issues with the new .35 kernel. Performance has dropped off compared to the .32 kernels though; as mentioned in this thread previously. Run NenaMark and you'll see the difference in FPS. Thats why its probably taking so long for someone to start making custom kernels with the .35 kernel.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] deliriousDroid:
:eek: I haven't flashed a nightly in months, had one from the 30s or 40s and I just flashed #91. My performance is cut in half. Only getting 25 in linpack. Anyone know what's going on?

Sent from my SilverBullet 'HTCDesireZ running CM7'
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
The new .35 kernel hasn't had all the tweaks and hacks that the .32 kernel had. Give it a few weeks and I bet the devs will find a way to boost linpack scores so that joe schmo thinks he has a super fast benchmarking phone again.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] deliriousDroid:
It's not just the benchmark I care about. I was just using that for a example. The fact that I get lag with live wallpapers again is what bothers me

Sent from my SilverBullet 'HTCDesireZ running CM7'
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
Live wallpapers have always made the UI more laggy on my phone....so I never used them. I would download one to see how it looked and then go back to my still image wallpaper.

Any other examples? The UI is much smoother in the latest Nightly then it was on PRE-#77 Nightlies IMO.

I really want to test for myself...so let me know. So far I have been nothing short of extremely pleased with the new kernel and the job the CM team is doing on tweaking it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
Nenamark - CM7 Nightly #91 - 800Mhz - On Demand - 42FPS

Highest score I see is a 46.10 at 1.5ghz with Performance governor and it was on Android 2.2.1 (Froyo)

Any other outlandish claims? I am within 4 fps of that score....look at the MHz difference, the Android version, ect.

Just like to see people back up their statements.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] deliriousDroid:
I have it running at 1113 performance, with screen off at 245, that was what I ran with before, and now even with just a picture wallpaper in the background it isn't as smooth when scrolling. With my live wallpaper before I had it running and scrolling as smooth as butter. Okay, just did another linpack, got 35 this time, was at 53 before. My quadrant score is now 2000, when it was 2100 before. My battery does seem to be draining faster, but that could just be due to flashing it recently. Oh, and it bunged up my GPS again.

Sent from my SilverBullet 'HTCDesireZ running CM7'
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] BootloopedMillennials:
:rolleyes:

I'm not making outlandish claims. You act as if I said it was a drastic drop off or I'm bashing this kernel.

Anyway you want numbers here goes, on CM7 pre-77 with Pershoot kernel at 1.5ghz with performance governor, Ive seen 47.8 to 48fps. With this kernel, Ive seen tops 45fps with the same specifications. Not a major change but definitely a dropoff. Quadrant has dropped off and so has Linpack. You want numbers to back those up too?

Ive already said in this thread in everyday use I don't see a change in overall speed (might be faster) but you will see a drop off in benchmarks (except Smartbench 2011). I dont rely on benchmarks to determine the speed of my phone for everyday use.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
Again...Quadrant scores are so meaningless on an android device. But like I said....give the devs some time and they will implement all that stuff to boost Quadrant/Linpack scores for all those Joe Schmos out there.

Look at it like this...if you went to Bestbuy and they had Linpack and Quadrant scores on every product they sold, would you take it at face value and buy it just because of that score? Joe Schmo would. A well informed person who knows how to utilize their resources would not.

BTW the margin of error in Quadrant could be more than 100....you can run the same test over and over at the same speed and get scores 500 points apart.

I would say you did make a pretty outlandish claim...remember saying "Performance has dropped off compared to the .32 kernels though"???? 3 fps is not a performance increase....these tests have a margin of error greater than that.

Again, linpack and quadrant scores are meaningless....but give the devs some time and they will implement those tweaks/hacks to boost those scores for all those Joe Schmos out there.

Its funny how convinced you guys are that your phone runs poorer because of a score on a synthetic benchmark...I was using linpack back in 2000 on my T-bird chip in my desktop computer. I have had a lot of research hours into linpack and everything I have read points to it being such a meaningless benchmark on an android device.

The only video performance decrease I can see is with Netflix....all my games are running just fine....my emulators run fine (and those are the most graphically demanding). Do a little more testing with real world apps/games and see if it changes your opinion.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] OFinch:
Has anyone had problems playing video? Like even video I recorded on my phone when the camcorder or camera worked? The screen is totally black when trying to shoot video or take picture. Also when I try to watch a youtube video its black. Debating wiping fully and starting from fresh to see if this helps. But if anyone has a different way or something else to do that'd be great. Cause I hate to have to wipe. Takes me an hour or two to fully set up phone log into account set up settings etc. Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
What nightly are you on? What kernel are you using? Use the stock kernel if you are not already.

I can play all video just fine on Nightly #91 with the stock kernel.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] deliriousDroid:
Whatever man, obviously your not taking into consideration that I said my phone ran perfect with live wallpapers before, and now it doesn't. The fact that my linpack is also lower=the fact that linpack is not a totally meaningless score.

Sent from my SilverBullet 'HTCDesireZ running CM7'
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
Okay....well can you please not complain in this thread about a performance decrease in two very pointless benchmarks (Quadrant and Linpack) since you clearly do not want to inform yourself/do any research whatsoever?

Thanks.

I am sorry your live wallpapers performance has decreased.....apparently yours was smooth before and now its laggy. Shame indeed.

I wish I could get live wallpapers smooth...they are even laggy on my roommates Atrix 4g....a device way more powerful than the G2....but I am sure you don't care about that since I can get higher linpack and quadrant scores than my roommates Atrix4g.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] deliriousDroid:
Aight, sorry. You asked for examples, I was just providing some. And I do agree about the benchmarks not being the best for comparing devices as all processors act differently. I just find it is a good way to show me how much the performance has increased or decreased on my own device.

Sent from my SilverBullet 'HTCDesireZ running CM7'
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] BootloopedMillennials:
Probably I should have specified that the "performance dropoff" I was talking about is in benchmarks not everyday use. Like I said in the last post, Ive seen no difference speed wise in everyday use. Ive mentioned this before.

And no I don't fully base how my phone runs on benchmarks. Ive seen phones pull high scores and run like ****. The only fairly accurate benchmark Ive seen is Smartbench 2011.

Anyway Im done with this. No need going back and forth on this. Waste of thread space.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ThaGeNeCySt:
I've been using the stock gingerbread launcher... with a bunch of widgets, no lag on scrolling (within app drawer and on home screens)

Same performance when running Live Wallpaper (this is one of the reasons why I've given up on LPP, ADW, ADW EX, Go Launcher, etc)

I'll take the smoothness over the features.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pmcqueen:
phone benchmarking.. what a freakin' joke, lmao.

what are you guys seeing as far as ram usage with the new nightlies (anything 2.3.4)?

it didn't occur to me until yesterday, but I am using ~20-30mb less at any given point in comparison to 7.0.3. this morning upon initial bootup I was only using 84mb of ram, the lowest I've ever seen on my G2.

I like where things are going.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xsteven77x:
Same here. Always said that the adw launcher brings CM down a alot. Could just be opinion, more than likely fact.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] martonikaj:
How have you been installing the stock launcher? I've been using the one from my sig for a long time, and its been quite smooth, but lately it seems to be a little stuttery when moving between screens. not sure exactly why...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Simer03:
The new nightlies are definitely better in terms of speed for me, and i know because its the little things, such as when the keyboard pops up, it pops up so much smoother now
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] BootloopedMillennials:
Hmm Ive been using that one (except I got the file from the Nexus S forums) without any lag either scrolling between screens or in the app drawer. I recently decided to go to Launcher Pro for the extra features and boy do I miss the smoothness of the stock launcher.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pmcqueen:
adw launcher blows, I agree. adw ex, on the other hand, is as good as anything out there.

aaand I just rebooted for something and checked ram usage again... 79 mb (before running any apps). WOW.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] martonikaj:
Yea the post I made (in my sig) refers to the files in the Nexus S forum.

My homescreen scrolling is really jittery (whether at 800mhz or 1.5ghz, doesnt matter). LauncherPro is like buttery smooth, but I just want to use stock. I only have like 3 widgets out of all of my homescreens I just don't get it.

Maybe its time for a complete wipe and fresh install...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KCRic:
I think it's the higher VM heap size. I read that it effects RAM usage, more so when you're at 48 MB. I usually have mine set at 42 or 36, runs just fine keeps the FC's at bay.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ThaGeNeCySt:
That's the one I'm using. No jitters for me, and I'm not overclocked all (been at 806 mhz all day today just to see how it performs vs. the 1206 i was using yesterday)

I also haven't wiped since one of the first few nightlies
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lawalty:
oh where, oh where is the stable release?

I'm really excited, and waiting for the next stable release.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] martonikaj:
So weird man. When I use launcherpro, it is quite noticibly smoother than the stock 2.3 launcher, which shouldn't be the case lol. I think ill try a reflash. If not I might need to try a full wipe.

Should also note, I really only see slow downs when swiping with my finger between screens, or moving slowly between them. When simply hitting the "dots" near the bottom of the launcher, the screens move fluidly.

Sent from my CM7-powered T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tbalden:
Why are you spamming the thread with all these? Any benchmark can have significance on the same device. Were not comparing two different devices but one with different software. If all kind of opearitions are running in a benchmark on the same device it can show regression in performance. Its just annoying how you push facts back in long posts with unrelated device comparisons. Its so in fashion to talk about "benchmarks are useless". Still that's the way to judge regressions, which is important for development. I admit that real world apps are important, but still another app may suffer from regressions of performance that u actually don't use.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] autom8r:
Warning: if you bought your phone to run benchmarks DO NOT install any nightlies past 77. For those that use your phone, download away.

http://autom8r.com
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pmcqueen:
interesting. I'm not well-read on the subject of VM heap size's effects other than on a singular instance of an app... I've always run 32mb (worth noting that I still am at 32 now, I haven't made any changes to my setup other than running the nightlies instead of stable releases). FC's have never been an issue and my understanding is that the basic concept is to get the heap size as low as possible without encountering force closes.

I've googled a bit but I can't find anything that connects the dots... do you know where I can find some info on the connection between VM heap size & ram availability? would be curious to see how that works.

lol... with you there all the way, my friend. I'm really impressed with what's coming out right now.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xsteven77x:
Somewhere in never never land. Kinda gotta get it stable before you release a stable lmfao. Especially after the mild debacle of people complaing of how many bugs were in the last stable, hopefully there trying to get it right this time...

Does anyone have any insight why cyanogen stays with adw? Tired of hearing the "its open source" excuse. There is other open source launchers that don't suck **** why not use those? Gotta feeling he has a personal friendship or something of the sort with the adw people. See no other reason to keep using that flaming pile of trash.

To those who say adw is fine. You must not push your phone very hard. If it works for you great. The rest of us will take quality please :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Fallen Spartan:
Matter of personal choice mate. If cyanogen wants to stay with adw that's his choice and completely fine by me. You are free to change it yourself or try a different rom......again.....your choice ;)

...........................

Sent from the improved version of Tapatalk, better known as Forum Runner ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] martonikaj:
Cynogenmod is open source. If you want a different launcher, do it yourself. Build your own nightlies with it if you want, it really doesn't matter.

I for one agree ADW isnt great, but the fact is you can get rid of it and do your own launcher. It REALLY isn't that big of a deal... I just don't see how you can complain so heavily about this....
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mejorguille:
Just wait until adw.2 is released..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xsteven77x:
Uh ok. No one is complaing. No **** i can change it myself. That still does not mean i'm not allowed to have an opinion and voice it. All i'm saying is that CM OUT OF THE BOX would be alot better if they had a different launcher. No need to state the obvious to me. "Oh really i can change the launcher? OMFG I HAD NO IDEA DER DER"....
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] infamousjax:
You're an idiot
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xboarder56:
Stock Gingerbread launcher flashable zip.

it removes adwlauncher and installes the stock gingerbread launcher.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] heybobitsme:
I loled so hard I almost spilled my popcorn!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KarlosTheJackal:
I'm on #90 & I'm notcing a lot of lag, like when typing etc. I start to type & the screen freezes & then a few seconds later catches up.

Also notcied the same when scrolling large blocks of text (I.e: using TapaTalk!)

Any ideas?

Delivered by Western Union in the rain after 70 Years
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
I was actually debating with multiple people...read through again and see if that clarifies what you think is spam.

As for the rest of your post........one word. Uninformed. If anything its in fashion to say "OMFG I GOT 3000 QUADRANT AND 56 mflopS ON LIN PACK!!!!!! SO ITS THE BEST!!!"

And just throwing in my opinion on the launcher....I wish it came with the stock GB launcher. I flash the stock GB launcher after every nightly update....and have been for a long time. Every now and then I will boot up in the nightly to see if ADW has improved but it always seems very laggy in the app drawer compared to the stock launcher.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] deliriousDroid:
Try adw ex. Adw free doesn't even compare

Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
General question about ADW EX. Do you know if it still being updated and supported by the dev?

I also saw someone mention ADW 2....should I hold off on EX for that instead?

If I am going to buy it I just wanted to know that first.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] deliriousDroid:
Yeah, he has put out a few amazing updates in the last few weeks. And I have no clue about adw 2

Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] EdKeys:
G1 if you haven't given Go Launcher EX a try I suggest you at least try it out. It has some nice options and works very well with CM7. Its available free in the market and is updated frequently. I think it is by far the best...my personal opinion anyway.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
Appreciate the reply...I will def give her a go. Glad to hear about the updates as well.

Appreciate it man, I am going to give this launcher a try as well.

I love the smoothness of the stock GB launcher...but I really am missing not having a lot of customization with it.

I have a feeling ADW EX or Go Launcher EX will be a good compromise.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] deliriousDroid:
Free? What? I thought I bought it

Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rraxda:
Thanks given..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] EdKeys:
I don't know its history, maybe it was a paid app before but just checked again and yes its free.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rraxda:
I used the one made by Eugene in the marketplace.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] NuShrike:
drops across the board except for SD read/write:

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.antutu.ABenchMark&feature=search_result
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] PJcastaldo:
CM used to use the stock launcher, untill ADW. ADW was the first to bring total customization and a mix of nice features that where not there at the time, like pinch to zoom out and see all your screens. It has been proven adw uses less ram and other resources compared to any of the stock launchers. I am an avid adw user, however I have tried all the others and see them as a nice attempt to copy the original.. But just copies.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] heybobitsme:
Plus, it's open source.