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[Windows Phone 7 General] jz9833:
i still cant for the life of me figure out why android lovers who do not even own a WP7 device come into this forum to preach the holy gospel of android.

i love my HD7. It actually has a great music player with great integration with the marketplace. If im driving around and hear a song I like, i can shazam it, and with 1 click the phone is already looking for it on the market. Combine that with my zune pass and with 1 long press im downloading the song right there. all this happens in under 10 seconds. No need to shazam, use awful and paste functions to get the song name to some other app and then finally download it. Keep in mind this is happening while driving and simplicity is important. Music is the #1 thing i want in my phone and android nor iOS comes close to WP7. You have to even download a decent music player app to enjoy that part of android.

HINT TO ALL: this is a WP7 forum, if you want to talk about how awesome android is, go to the android forum. It's just below this one.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Eh... my Focus and my Venue pro play AVI files just fine...
[Windows Phone 7 General] zukа:
This thread is pretty pointless IMO and doesn't further anyone's knowledge or create an atmosphere for good discussion.

Some people don't like WP7, others do. I like the friendly debate we have here with the majority of users who visit the forum and am happy going back and forth on the features of my preferred OS vs theirs. I don't see too much genuine "hate" - whenever that happens, the thread tends to be locked. Making a thread talking about other threads seems to me to be pointless and kinda inflammatory.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MvP77:
I like WP7. I don't like what ot lacks and wish it was a lil more like Android, but that's also the reason I own a Android phone. I own a Zune and have s Netflix account. Just being able to use my Zune pass and Netflix accounts without being on WiFi is enough of a reason for me to love WP7. I also hope it gets DivX support like my Zune has

Sent from my HD2 Windows Phone 7 using Board Express.
[Windows Phone 7 General] arturobandini:
Euh... But Zune PC software does not recognise Avi (DivX) files.... So how can you transfer them ?

I like when I can just drag & drop AVI movie files into my BB Bold or WM6.5 and watch them immediately.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MvP77:
My ZuneHD also plays DivX (avi) files. Zune software does recognize them.

Sent from my HD2 Windows Phone 7 using Board Express.
[Windows Phone 7 General] kohz87:
this thread seems awfully pathetic, it seems as though people are just trying to find something to bash on WP7 :/
[Windows Phone 7 General] nrfitchett4:
So I guess you have your own definition of a smartphone then?

wp7 seems to meet the definition to me:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/smartphone

And the only time I've used BT transfers is to transfer tweaking files from my phone to my wife's and son's hd2's.

I think sharing files is possible without you having access to the file manager. The same way the email app can add pics, it could add office docs, pdf's, vid's, etc.

see above

yeah, my phone is for entertainment and connectivity, not for work. So for me, it fits perfectly. If it doesn't work for business users, then they shouldn't get the phone. But we already knew that.

Or maybe they did a useage poll and realized that hardly anyone (total smartphone users) actually used this service so it wasn't implented AT LAUNCH. It is being looked into for future updates.

Why are the animations? Because the phone is processing. Iphones really aren't any faster at opening most apps, it just looks that way because of the animations. Same thing here. Whether they are there or not, will not effect the speed of what it is processing.

All my .avi files play fine on my phone.

I think you need to check your files. I download a lot of tv shows through graboid and most of them are .avi files. They all converted fine automatically and I was able to drag and drop them.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
@nrfitchett4

Well without any kind of visible file structure you're screwed with sending 12 emails with 12 documents. The only thing which works is pictures. I don't need to see any system files atm, but not beeing able to attach multiple docs to email is shoot, not to mention video and pdf which cannot be shared.

And bluetooth is completely disabled in this regard.
[Windows Phone 7 General] orangekid:
yeah it's equally pathetic that people keep starting threads on "why do people hate on the OS" then frantically try to prove how awesome it is.

If you really think it's awesome then good, roll with it, why do you have to keep bringing up the same points over and over again?

it outperforms in certain areas, and lacks in others. If you don't have an HD2 and can run both Android and WP7 whenever you want, then look at the pros and cons and roll with it, we don't need all of this "overconvincing"
[Windows Phone 7 General] jz9833:
whats even more pathetic is when people who do not like or even own a WP7 device come into a WP7 forum just to hate on it ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] slighmd:
well said!
[Windows Phone 7 General] orangekid:
not that many people do that. mostly WP7 fans start threads asking why people hate it, basically asking for ire, just so they can ***** and moan about how it's the greatest OS since sliced iOS.

I've been using WP7 for a few days now as a daily OS, and it's pretty sweet, it's got potential, but you have to recognize and acknowledge the draw-backs of the OS as compared with the competition, and not just blindly praise it as hands-down the best OS on the market.

MS really needs to push an update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] BlueAnt1958:
Just Different

The very nature of the internet allows for positive and negatives to be aired. Better in the XDA forum than from a clock tower. :)

I have had a WP7 (Mozart) since early november and must admit at first I did not like it. Having come from using Win Mob & Android devices I found the customising restrictions extremely annoying. No ringtones, CHT, Internet tethering, blah, blah.

But then things changed, I started to notice just how slick the interface was, how it just did what it was supposed to do, never crashed on me or gave any weird responses. I was not constantly fiddling with the device in search of phone nivana I was just using it. This took a few weeks to happen but it did.

As most experienced XDAers would know you cannot use a device for a few hours and get a feel for it. To test it out properly you really need to use it for a few days or a week.

All the current OS have their pros & cons and I'm not saying it is better or worse than any other OS, it is just different the same as android is to Win Mob or iOS. Probably a view that quite a few users in XDA should adopt along with treating each other with respect.

A smile goes a mile.
[Windows Phone 7 General] arturobandini:
Fully agree.

Nice to read a reasonable and realistic point of view.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shippey121:
hi all

ive been reading this thread re installing android on my HD2,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=733752

it says on page 11 might have been before that i need radio 2.10 2.12 , i then started to read this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=611787

about updating my radio but it has several different downloads for radio 2.10 and 1 for 2.12 then below there is some that start 15 so not exactly sure which one to download

i would like to try the latest android version the froyo 2.2, not bothered about it autobooting, i dont mind having to press a button once the phone is running but would like to keep wm as my main os.

here are my phone specs, ive not altered the software in anyway since i bought it.

UK T-Mobile

os version 5.2.2189

manila version 2.5.20121429.0

Rom 1.72.110.4 (86525) WWE

radio version 2.07.51.22.2

flash size 512mb

8 GB sd card

could someone pleasse list exactly what i need links to files would be grate, someething like

step 1update radio to (link to radio download)

step 2 download latest android ( link )

step 3 install android loader

i can follow instructions in the links i gave but just a little unsure which radio and andriod version to get. and as ive seen altering files can ruin my phone i want to be as sure as i can before i start this

in any stage of adding android to my phone will it wipe my memory card ??

can the android part be completely uninstalled ???

i have the usb cable and windows mobile device center so i guess ill wait for a reply.

thanks for reading and hope someone can help me

cheers craig
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sidd:
Hi Craig,

I am willing to help but first read the link AGAIN & AGAIN, if you are still not sure then PM me on my Hotmail.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=732380

I have 4 HD2s in my friends including myself, and I am dealing Android on all the 4 devices.

My recommended Android ROM is:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=859817

Regards

Sid
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shippey121:
thanks for reply sid,

i read the post you linked to and updated the radio and Hard SPL, i then downloaded the rom you linked to and copied that to my sd card, clicked the two files and it rebooted as android, seems to work ok,

just one thing if you could let me know is that can i just delete the android folder and be back to normal or when it booted did it copy files somewhere else or is everything contained for androlid os in the android folder,

might try some different roms thats all but would want to remove others first

thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sidd:
Wahaaayyyy, Well Done.

If you want to try another Android Rom than you have to

EITHER

delete or backup (for future use) few folders such as:

* .android_secure

* .bookmark_thumb1

* .estrongs

* .footprints

* .Mail

* Android

* DCIM (This is the folder where the Camera picture saves !!! IMPORTANT if you want to save the pictures taken from within Android)

* download

* LazyList

* LOST.DIR

* media (I think this folder keeps all the ringtones)

* myalbum

* rosie_scroll

* rssreader

(Dont worry if any of the mentioned is not in your card)

Then again put new rom's android folder in the card & run 2 files as you did.

Important:

It is recommended to Format the card each time on FAT-32 (Not Quick Format) for a fresh start but MAKE SURE to save/backup your Windows folders prior to format, and copy them back after format, this will save you from some random rebooting or crashes of Android.

If you want to try an ULTRA FAST Android rom than try this one, as this one uses your HD2s hard chip RAM rather than the RAM through the SD-Card, But this is without HTC sence: (READ the instructions carefully) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=870518

Good luck & let me know

Regards

Sid
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shippey121:
thanks again for your reply sid,

i tried the other faster version you linked and it seems loads quicker but battery life doesnt seem to be as good unplugged it from charging this morning and used about 80% in about 10 hours, is this normal.when i am running windows it lasts about 2 days before needing to be charged,

also when i booted back into windows i got some errors, saying couldnt run exe files as they wernt signed or something to that effect, after googling the error it turns out afew people had this error after using android, and a hard reset was rthe only cure, i did this and both are working fine so not sure what happened there

what can you recommed to do a complete backup of my windows OS, including installed apps contacts / messages etc, basically a full backup in case it happens again,

thanks for your input already its been much appreciated, the feedback from both the roms is the 2nd 1 is definately loads quicker at loading, also the apps close fully not leaving them running whereas the 1st one seemed to leave them all running unless i was doing something wrong, i just press the back arrow to close them,

the second rom doesnt have loads of pre-installed stuff, which i like beacuse i just put the stuff i need on,

just need to use it a little more to find out where stuff is

cheers craig
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sidd:
Craig the battery consumption is also depends on the speed of the SD card (Class), I am using class-4 16GB Kingston, I have also tried Class-6 16GB but that was sucking the battery allot more than class-4, but class-2 makes it suck as well because it takes more time & provide less info to the rom in the required time, I hope you are catching what I am saying.

So according to my experience "Kingston Class-4 8/16GB" is the most appropriate card to run Android through the card.

Although Android through the SdCard will always consume more battery than any OS on the chip itself, that is why Windows OS is giving us 2 days. There is a way of DELETING Windows OS and install Android on the HardChip through MAGLDR, but I am sorry I can play anything with the SdCard but with the device itself NO WAY.

My aim was to try Android in my hand rather than word-of-mouth, so I can decide about my next device.

About the Windows crash & Hard Resetting, I would suggest you to install/Design all you loving softwares in WinOS and once you finish use "

Sprite Backup

" (Brilliant application) to take a complete backup of your Windows as well as your Android folders at the same time in one single or two separate Sprite (self executable) files.

My tip to you:

Use Sprite Backup in android with the schedule backup (at-least twice a week) of your

calls & txt

, as Android DO CORRUPT suddenly sometime, OH YES, (Just had a weeping friend this weekend, lost his 150+ txt, woooooohhhhh).

Keep me updated

Regards

Sid
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shippey121:
morning sidd,

im using an 8gb class 10 sd card, i read through the post for the rom and it mentioned turning the wifi off as some people will suffer a high battery drain, i had it fully charged last night before bed and this morning its only gone down 7 % on 6 1/2 hours so thats much better, i suppose it was me messing about with it a lot more than usual plus the wifi so ill run it today and see,

ill look in to the sprite backup also, not really bothered about texts so probably wont backup it up as often as twice a week, its mainly the apps n contacts having to reinstall them all the time and more often than not loosing new ones that havent been synced.

you are right about not changing the software on the chip too, leaving it with windows so when i come to sell it will be as it should and the buyer can do with it what he/she likes, also giving the same reason as to why i put android on in the first place, so i can try it for myself and workout the next phone which is about 6 months off
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sidd:
Hi Craig,

According to my experience even the Class-6 was consuming the battery a bit extra than class-4, a normal Android

standby

MA (Milli-Amps) should be around 3-6mA then you can have a bit more than 1 whole day of battery life. (App called "Current Widget", see attached picture).

If you are worried about the apps to install in the Android than there is also an easy way of installing all your favourite apps at once rather than going one-by-one. In Mdeejay's roms there is a folder "

AndroidApps

" (\Android\AndroidApps), you can copy your desired APKs in there and on the

first time installation

Android will install all the APKs automatically for you.

About the HardChip installation side (MAGLDR), you can also revert back your Windows Rom before selling your device through any Windows Rom, but obviously there a procedure for that, and I would HARDLY suggest anyone to read & read before play.

Regards

Sid
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shippey121:
heres my finding after a few days of use,

the desire rom mdeejay one is good but it leaves loads of apps running in the background, if from the home screen i slide down for the notifications i can see them across the top and asume from this they are still running which will use the battery faster, to close an app i use the arrow key, (in the darkstone rom i can hold that key and app killed comes up, they dont show in the notification screen)

i do like some features of HTC SENSE though, like the clock and weatjer on the main screen and the friend stream, most of the other apps i wouldnt probably use

the darkstone rom is very fast, kills apps from memory and isnt pre installed with loads of apps which makes it easier to customize as i dont have to remove all the other apps first, the only downside i can see so far is i cant get rid of the adverts, if copied the host file but they are still there even after several reboots.

the other difference in both roms compared to windows is the contact setup, in windows if i goto a contact, i can select messages and it will show me only messages from that contact, same with call logs,so while im in a specific contact the messages, emails, call logs are all related directly to that contact, i dont have to keep looking in different screens

so to conclude

option 1 i would like to run the darkstone rom with the clock and weather widget and friend stream from mdeejays rom, but would like my contacts to be like they were in windows 6.5 but no adds

option 2 would be run mdeejays rom, with the long press back arrow to kill apps and find an app for contacts like windows

if anyone has a suggestion as to how i can achieve this it will be appreciated, thanks
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] reynolds2408:
Came across this by watching BlackPrince310 on YouTube so all credit goes to him.

Smartbench is an alternate to quadrant and supposedly better so try it out or watch this

h ttp://m.youtube.com/index?client=mv-google&xl=xl_tsp&gl=GB#/home

*remove space in http
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] Morbidx13:
i get nothing after the jellyfish screen, just black with smartbench at the top.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] shindou26:
On the description in the Market it says ad blocker may cause blank screens, so if you have one, disable it.

EDIT: I tested it myself with adfree enabled and disabled. Works when disabled and blank screen when it is enabled.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] Acei:
I've published a new version that fixes this "blank screen" bug when ad blocker is present. It should work regardless now.

If anyone finds any other issues, please let me know! :)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] ilijan:
1. Have Winphone developer tools installed. Download it for yourself

2. Connect Phone via USB

3. Wait till zune starts and sync completes

4. Verify that zune is not in a guest relationship

5. open a command prompt, type netstat -a to confirm that port 443 is not being used

6. open an admin command prompt, navigate to c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\ then type notepad hosts and delete any references to windowsphone developer services

7. go to the settings on the phone and turn airplane mode on (so that the phone is forced to use internet via zune)

8. While the phone is still on the settings page, run Chevron with admin privileges

Attention: if port 443 is used (see on your list) stop IIS or exit Skype program
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] DJTJ:
Links dead
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] quietpopcorn:
Link has an ellipsis in the middle of it.

Regardless, this "fix" did not work for me.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Lizzo:
eureka!!! it worked!!!!:D:D:D
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] DJTJ:
Now it just gets the error later
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] DanielNTX:
I mentioned this in the original thread:

Set the time and date of the phone and computer back to like 1/10/2011 and it should work.

For some reason the spoof'ed developerservices.windowsphone.com address to your local machine rejects the HTTPS 443 request if the date is correct. I think it was a built in kill switch by the original devs of ChevronWP7. Because the program can tell whether if the phone is pin-locked or not and will display a message accordingly meaning it definitely has a connection.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] maxpg:
Setting the date back seems to have no effect here. I changed the date of the computer and the phone to the 1st of january 2011. Reconnected the phone, waited until sync to zune finished and retried. Still the same problem.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] DanMar:
Thanks! Was the developer services in the HOSTS file that fixed for me.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] ilijan:
it work properly for me ... if you sync with zune its automatickly broke the chevron unlock... just go step by step and you can unlock your phone withou connection issus usb error...GL & HF
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] charliess:
what helps is just to sync for example one mp3 with zune before,t hen run chevron
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] G-ThGraf:
doesn't works for me :s :s
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] wixxer:
How do you clear port 443? And how do you delete the host file after typing in cmd.exe?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] pinodrum:
yes....i do it....but...it's the same error...aaarrrhhhhh....

For two days the same error....I can not understand why, and I have done everything ... sure ...

please, help me...

P.S.

My os is a 64 bit, but i tried also a 32 bit so....windows 7 ultimate in both case...
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] ilijan:
i think its enught try this step:

connect hd2 to pc via usb ,

zune start and sync.

you must have UNLOCKED SCREAN not black screen not lock screan!!

your devie must be on.

navigate to c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts double click and open with NOTEPAD...

look down and REMOVE!!!!!all this text from the host file:

192.168.1.102	developerservices.windowsphone.com

192.168.1.102	developerservices.windowsphone.com

192.168.1.102	developerservices.windowsphone.com

192.168.1.102	developerservices.windowsphone.com

192.168.1.102	developerservices.windowsphone.com

192.168.1.102	developerservices.windowsphone.com

if its removed put X to close the notepad, its open dialog windows and you click to yes save it.

after that go to chewron and run as administrator

and just unlock the device
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] aiwenor:
for me it worked only when I closed all the messenger clients (skype, ym, oovoo, live), not only skype...you can try this too :)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] kswissonez:
Very helpful, Im assuming it worked because it gave me the option to "relock" the phone?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] commensal:
Doesn't change anything for me with Xp pro. Always same error but it's certainly normal caus' i'm not able to instal wP7 sdk
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] nova hands:
Success!

My problem was that I had no internet connection in Zune.

I only use my Android phone to tether to the internet, and this whole time I wasn't tethered online.

It seems Zune MUST have an internet connection, and the phone MUST be in airplane mode for this to work.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] wixxer:
I connect hd2 to pc via usb ,

I zune start and sync.

I have UNLOCKED SCREAN not black screen not lock screan!!

My device is be on.

I navigate to c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts double click and open with NOTEPAD...

look down and REMOVE!!!!!all this text from the host file:

169.254.194.227	developerservices.windowsphone.com

Close and save...

But still the problem
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] pinodrum:
Me too...same problem...

The error says "make sure it's connected using usb"....

Damn :(
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Bolocho:
I also had the problem and port 443 was always open... go to start, right click computer -> manage, services and apps, services, stop "routing and RAS" (remote access), and you're good to go, port 443 will not show up in netstat.