yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate Android Development] Uncle Irish:
I'm running the side by side today doing the exact same things on each phone. I have my daughter's SIM in one and mine in another. She's gone for the day so I had a good chance to test and took advantage of it.

So far, on each phone there have been

150 text messages

1x 100MB download over data

1x 100MB download over wireless

60 minutes 0f phone calls

30 minutes of Homerun Battle 3D

30 minutes of Angry Birds

45 minutes of GPS using Telenav (same route)

30 minutes of YouTube

3 Speedtest runs using data

As it stands

Battery life:

Paragon RC6 at %43

CM7 at %11

Performance:

Real life use the edge goes to CM7

Paragon is blazing, but CM7 is indeed faster

Data speeds:

Paragon had a slight advantage by less than 100k in downstream and upstream

Gameplay:

Paragon was more fluid in both games I played, but not y a significant margin

Call quality:

Both are equally great

GPS:

CM7 has amazing GPS from the start. Locked location in under 3 seconds and picked 12 of 12 in under 1 minute (clear sky)

Using Telenav, I deviated from the planned route 9 times. CM7 rerouted immediately each time

Paragon lost location 1 time and took over 1 minute to reacquire, but did reacquire.

I'm not so sure there is a hardware with this phone as much as it is a software issue after testing today. I was completely amazed by what I saw using CM7.

Total uptime for both unplugged is just under 11 hours

I did not run any bench tests because I really don't care about them. Real world use is a better judge for me and the way I use my phone on a daily basis.

If you aren't sure about CM7, wait until it reaches full stability and all the bugs are worked out. Paragon is by no means something to ditch just to have the latest thing. CM7 is flat out awesome, but once it's finalized it will be several times better. I'm sticking with Paragon until that time.

Hope this helps with any questions some of you may have.

**EDIT**

Wrong battery percentages - they were from earlier in the day

**EDIT 2**

Added GPS info
[Captivate Android Development] superj3211:
i just flashed from phoenix to paragon and i love the rom, but i seem to not be getting text messages, anyone else having this issue?
[Captivate Android Development] cobeebs:
awesome - thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] connexion2005:
ROM review for 6.0 is live...

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[Captivate Android Development] The_Zodiac:
to everybody using this rom. when you shut off animations i still get some kind of tearing effects when i transition between screens.

is there any way to delete the transition that this comes with? perhaps using root explorer?
[Captivate Android Development] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
Love the video reviews.. keep em coming. Donation is on the way.

..also i just missed the drop in price. Got my jig like 3 days ago and i bought it for 10 bucks. lol, its all good though as i'd gladly pay 15 for one of those suckers!
[Captivate Android Development] Kyuta Syuko:
While I admire your post and through testing, I can only say I'd take it with a grain of salt because you used two different Cappys. Especially when it comes to the GPS. I say this because the way our Cappys were put together isn't consistent making everyone's experience with different aspects of each ROM different. As can be attested to in this thread with some people still experiencing battery drain, GPS, and OC/UV stability issues such as myself -- granted not so much the OC/UV stability issues.

I don't mean to bash your post because I think it's great you took the time to do that and make a post about it. I just don't want people to go from Paragon RC6 to CM7 expecting the same or similar results, not get them, and then be mad at your for leading them astray.

*edit* I'd also like to point out that Paragon uses a 100Hz kernel while it looks like CM7 uses a default Hz kernel (don't remember what the default is just know it's higher then 100Hz)
[Captivate Android Development] gokartracer5:
I went from phoenix to paragon and have no issues.
[Captivate Android Development] DrDubzz:
back on Paragon! I need something stable while I'm at my Air Force training. No flashing for a while!

Thanks for the great ROM
[Captivate Android Development] Lancez:
my pleasure buddy, it was the least i can do :)
[Captivate Android Development] bamonkey:
*thumbs up* get some sleep. question is answered and THIS means i get an OC/UV speedmod..and im loving speedmod right now :D

LIKE A BOSS:cool:
[Captivate Android Development] shaolin95:
The more details the better but so far I am liking it...a lot more testing to do of course and please consider my request for a 1344 maybe 1400 capable kernel :D

Have a good night and thanks for this wonderful gift!
[Captivate Android Development] ErebusRaze:
Honestly, if anything, this is the nicest looking ROM I've seen in a long time. So tired of the Gingerbread theme. There's not enough green wallpapers in this world to make it even look decent!

Thumbs up and thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] dicksteele:
Crap. Just loaded Firefly 1.0. And it's still early.

What the hell. Back to stock.
[Captivate Android Development] Joel1030:
What's the update.zip below the rom main post for???
[Captivate Android Development] bamonkey:
clockwork recovery zip for when you flash back to stock and need to run the update.zip from standard recovery ;)

edit: oh what the hell, i created my own update with just the paragon kernel so i can play with it a bit on my current rom while its charging.. what the hell is wrong with me?? lol
[Captivate Android Development] shaolin95:
Thats the spirit! :D
[Captivate Android Development] rpicaso:
You guys gotta stop this madness!! Every time I flash something, here come something else that looks freaking sweet!! Guess I know what I'll be doing tomorrow..:p
[Captivate Android Development] aintwaven:
Ok it's installed. I have not tracked with GPS, but my results were the same as yours. First impression, one of the best roms I have tried. Great work. Try this you won't be disappointed.
[Captivate Android Development] apbamaman:
*puts phone on charger*

I'll try this in the morning....
[Captivate Android Development] Barbarian:
I have to try this!

Sent from my Captivate
[Captivate Android Development] bamonkey:
Going to stock to get prepared but i wanted to throw an old discussion back out here. I was playing with just the kernel side and realized its 1.28ghz and forgot "oh yeah my phone locks up after a few minutes on 1.28..but it can handle 1.2g with no problems". Now heres the funny part im pretty sure from what ive read the actual engineers have stated its CAN do 1.2 no problems and after that its just down to quality. Now i 'think' ive got my cappy to run up to 1.3 before by setting some of the UV to specific points but im just curious about others. In a way im also preparing for the onslaught of possible "my phone locked up after a few minutes" postings we might see later :cool:
[Captivate Android Development] laz0r:
I have to say this ROM impressed me enough to make my first post.

The theming is awesome, it's very clean. It definitely one of the fastest ROMs I have used. The scrolling is smooth and everything feels very responsive.

I am unsure of the GPS but really there isn't one configuration that will work for everyone.

Will have to use this some more and see if I run into any problems but overall GREAT JOB!
[Captivate Android Development] kannonball2290:
So this is probably my favorite rom of all time, it looks great, fast as hell, I love this rom!!
[Captivate Android Development] xThe Enforcer:
Been torn by all the updated ROMs lately and this one looks pretty clean. Will have to give it a go!
[Captivate Android Development] cropythy:
Can someone state if it has the 4 lockscreen choices?
[Captivate Android Development] laz0r:
It doesn't
[Captivate Android Development] xThe Enforcer:
I'm sure there are apps/mods out there that will let you change the lockscreen of your choice. I know WidgetLocker lets you change a crap load of things.
[Captivate Android Development] MikeyMike01:
That's hardly a solution.

Sent from my Captivate.
[Captivate Android Development] Lancez:
try hard reset by dialing *2767*3855#, you won't have any problems after that. it'll wipe out your storage though.
[Captivate Android Development] Kyuta Syuko:
Did you restore anything with Titanium Backup? I kept having that issue because I kept restoring all apps (including system) and all data
[Captivate Android Development] theMaDHakkeR:
I really like the theme you put together. I am noticing now that the status bar is running smooth again LOL. I think ill just leave it as is for now as the new RC3 update will have some theme tweaks as well. Just don't want to mess around too much as everything is running very nicely.

Also that clear command you mention to some people, is this the same as a master clear through Odin? I don't use Odin to go to stock because it bricks my bootloader image and i don't have an ATT Cappy. I just wipe data/cache through clockwork and flash right over what i'm running. If the new rom is using EXT4 i don't even bother disabling Voodoo and so far so good.
[Captivate Android Development] Lancez:
the hard reset that i recommended is almost the same as master reset on odin without computer. which means you can flash ROMs on the go and still have a stable, trouble free custom ROM. this feature applies to all samsung smartp phones (WM, Android and Bada).
[Captivate Android Development] theMaDHakkeR:
Thanks for that. Ill be doing this with my next flash.
[Captivate Android Development] Lancez:
you are welcome, please note, it'll wipe out your storage too, so backup first :)
[Captivate Android Development] attsw:
Had this problem on Darky's a few versions back. The solution there was to replace the email.apk with the one from the previous version. Maybe some issue with bad email data is causing a similar issue? I still don't have a clue how the email app could mess with any app that tried to use the camera but this problem has come up from time to time on various JPY roms.
[Captivate Android Development] bentonhall:
I have mine set at -50, -75, -75, -100, -100, -125 as previously posted and eSPyeL recommended and it is very smooth with no force closes or problems. No lag anywhere. I got greedy and bumped them another -25 and worked the phone hard and eventually got a kernel panic so I switched it back.
[Captivate Android Development] Kyuta Syuko:
This ROM actually stores some apps in the Data directory (not sure why maybe eSPyeL can clear that up) which get removed so if you do it this way you lose those apps (Blinky and Voltage Control are the two I know of off the top of my head)
[Captivate Android Development] Lancez:
you can download them form market, the important thing is after hard reset you won't have any weird problems with the ROM.
[Captivate Android Development] Kyuta Syuko:
I've not been able to find Voltage Control on the market... I think my market hates me :( But yes I agree that is the important thing I was just making a point that people might want to check the Data directory for apps they might want to keep and put them in the /system/app directory before doing the hard reset.

*edit*

Also the version of Blinky doesn't seem to work right where as the version that comes with this ROM does...
[Captivate Android Development] Lancez:
you've got point, if people want those apps intact, they can simply move them from data/app to sys/app, before flashing.
[Captivate Android Development] Phoenix-Lead:
It has been a long time since I have used another ROM other than my own(Phoenix and FireFly). I am looking forward to this one. I will update you with my findings.
[Captivate Android Development] bentonhall:
Blinky shows an update on the market but won't let me update it. Everything else updates fine. Sounds like maybe I don't want to update it.
[Captivate Android Development] Phoenix-Lead:
I love the shutdown animation on this. Nice job!
[Captivate Android Development] eSPyeL:
Thanks for trying it out! Did you get a chance to test the gps?
[Captivate Android Development] tallsilver:
Serependity to Paragon

Lots of things to like about both. BUT, this is the first ROM that had a working Voice Dialer that works for me.......so far....great.

Try it a couple of days to do a good comparison. :rolleyes:
[Captivate Android Development] Machofuerte:
eSPyeL,

This was my first time rooting and flashing a rom on my Captivate and it's great! I did the battery calibration last night so I'll wait a few days before I say anything about it but everything is good so far.

I do have one question; in post #2 there is a "Download Update only (this is used only for updating a previous version of Paragon to the latest)" Can you explain how that works, and how I go about using it?
[Captivate Android Development] theMaDHakkeR:
So I've figured out why the status bar is really jerky sometimes. It seems like it doesnt like fancy widget. Once i remove fancy widget it runs smooth as butter again. Wonder what could be causing this. The menus move very smoothly regardless of how many apps or widgets i have running, just the status bar gets borked with fancy widget.
[Captivate Android Development] Kyuta Syuko:
That's strange because I use Fancy Widget with no issues. Maybe it has something to do with a combination of Fancy Widget and the Launcher? I'm using ADW.
[Captivate Android Development] gandalf21502:
Donated....Transaction ID #80G66104YW6286919

GREAT ROM!!! Looking forward to see what comes next...:D
[Captivate Android Development] Uncle Irish:
I completely agree. Its all device specific. One thing I will say tho is that the overall experience is a big change. I posted that for those that are thinking of trying it. Im going to flash my main cap tomorrow and test the gps also. Mine has been pretth solid from the get go. I expected to lose gps on my test today because of the route and number of turns. Im still very surprised though about how well my test cap did in testing. It has never had good gps. Its all independent though to each device.

Personally, I am waiting for a while to run ginger long term. Its close but not there yet.

I took no offense to your post just so you know.

Sent from mars
[Captivate Android Development] Captivate2010:
Thanks i found the answer, just extract the service.jar from RC6 zip and install. Work perfect.

Thanks :D
[Captivate Android Development] Chuckd610:
I just flashed the Firefly ROM and it's not bad at all. The GPS is outstanding. I'd like to compare the GPS files from Firefly and Paragon to see what the differences are. I'll give it a couple days to see how it holds up. No doubt I'll be flashing rc6 again. Just had to quench my thirst for flashing ROM's....lol...Gonna try CM7 in a couple days. After reading, it's definately a process to get it up and running.
[Captivate Android Development] joey_xda:
Is there a how-to on setting up the Paragon kernel (oc & uv) ? I'm using it with Serendipity.

Thanks
[Captivate Android Development] SmithEC:
Have you seen shaolin95's oc/uv guide in the 3rd post of this thread? I've never looked at it, because I have no interest in OC. I suspect it might give you what you are looking for.

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sent from my Captivate (Paragon RC6.0) w/XDA app
[Captivate Android Development] redger725:
Why is there not a sticky for Paragon Q & A in the Q & A section?

So my question. How do I turn off the Paragon custom animation? I've looked all over for it. I went to settings/display/animation and it is set to no animation. The animations look cool, but to me it just slows down the menu response.
[Captivate Android Development] Christo_69:
Not sure about the first part of your question but you can also change the animations in the general section of the Spare Parts app.
[Captivate Android Development] redger725:
Spare parts. That worked. Thanks.
[Captivate Android Development] joey_xda:
I did read that but it doesn't say where to make the changes. I'm new to oc/uv and i'm trying to learn before i make any changes :)
[Captivate Android Development] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
You make the changes in the Voltage Control app.
[Captivate Android Development] SmithEC:
Changes are made in Voltage Control, I'm sure. That yellow triangle app.

The impression I get is that it can become even more involved than that, what with the CWR flashable kernels in post three.

I gave up on the idea of over-clocking years ago when I fried a 3dfx V5 5500 in a desktop computer due to overclocking. That back when computer components actually cost money.

I wish I could give you the answers. The answers are probably somewhere within the last 150 pages or so of this thread. Fortunately XDA is formatted so that you can limit your search strictly to that which is within any particular thread.

Voltage Controls.

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[Captivate Android Development] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
OC'ing can certainly become overwhelming. I didn't know a thing about it before my captivate. Shaolin95's guide is pretty well written for a beginners guide. It gives you a base of where to start if you feel up to the task. And again, OC'ing is not for everyone. I got into in because i wanted to see what i could do with my phone, but only after understanding that i could do real damage on top of make my device very unstable.

a good place to start is with the default 1200 kernel. I started at the recommended -100 UV settings for 1200 down. Ran all the tests i could and NEVER got any crashes or freezing. Although i did get a little cocky and try to push it to 1400.. thats when i ran into problems. But I gotta say, the default Paragon kernel for OC'ing up to 1.2ghz, is just awesome!
[Captivate Android Development] joey_xda:
Thanks, i found the Voltage Control app in the market. Would running the Paragon 1200 kernal without modding be ok ?

Thanks
[Captivate Android Development] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
Yeah, you can just use the paragon kernel, and its not OC'd by default so you'll be running at the 1ghz the phone came out of the box as. Nice kernel... I'm seeing more and more people using it for other ROMs as well!
[Captivate Android Development] joey_xda:
Ok, im a bit confused, i thought if i used Paragon 1200 by default its running at 1.2 ?
[Captivate Android Development] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
No, its not OC'd when you run it. You CAN OC it if you want. It comes able to OC up to 1.2 (i.e 1200mhz) but in order to overclock you need to set Voltage Control settings and apply for now, or if you are stable than save as boot settings.. only after you feel you are stable enough.

Then, once you have applied for now, your phone will be running at 1.2ghz!
[Captivate Android Development] redger725:
I flashed to Paragon this morning in hopes that I would get better GPS performance. Acquisition is good, but the tracking still has me overshooting intersections and losing track on turns. Before this I had Firefly and it was the same. I will load the PlumbBob fix. So far that has given me the best results with tracking, but I still lose GPS signal sometimes.

I'll stay with Paragon for awhile and see how I like it.
[Captivate Android Development] joey_xda:
Ahh ok thanks for the info :D
[Captivate Android Development] SmithEC:
I wish you hadn't asked these OC'ing questions. Now I'm actually taking a look at it.

In that OC'ing guide, the reference is made to looping the Stability Test 30 or 50 times.

I would assume that that is a reference to looping the core?

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[Captivate Android Development] shaolin95:
Yes i need to update that guide as the new version has a memory looping bar as well. 30 should be fine for the core.
[Captivate Android Development] switters1:
paragon and gingerbread

I'm pretty happy with paragon right now.

But the Gingerbread/CM7 port looks pretty tempting.

Has anybody tried CM7 after paragon? How do they compare? Is there anything you miss from paragon?

Also, does anybody know if Espyl is going to try for a paragon CM7 ROM?
[Captivate Android Development] topiratiko:
Someone left a pretty detailed description a page or 2 back.....doesn't sound like its a daily driver quite yet
[Captivate Android Development] shaolin95:
I just finished testing CM7 and it is definitely not ready for prime time at least not for me.

FPSE does not work (playstation emulator), external card cannot be accessed from the USB connection, and overall you feel it is a beta with issues here and there like linpack scoring about 6!

There are some areas where you can tell that when done, it would be a very nice ROM but at this moment it is not ready....even the scrolling of the drawer is choppy.

I am testing Darky and more than likely back to Paragon after that.

Regards
[Captivate Android Development] gandalf21502:
CM7 is not ready for most people as a daily driver...they are getting closer though. I am hoping for a some gingerbread love'n with Paragon RC7...:D
[Captivate Android Development] switters1:
Wow. Excellent comparison. Thanks for putting together such a rigorous test. Even though individual cappys have different tolerance and performance with different ROMs, this comparison is pretty much as good as it gets.

And honestly, it meshes with the other reports of performance and battery life that I've seen reported. Battery is too important so I think I'll hold off.

Does anybody know if eSPyeL will try to use a CM7 kernel for a future Paragon?
[Captivate Android Development] WickedNite:
I'm using Paragon Kernel now and it works great. Thanks eSPyeL for this great Kernel. :)
[Captivate Android Development] shaolin95:
Best kernel there is far which is what I am hoping he will be able to come up with a Gingerbread kernel too. :-)
[Captivate Android Development] WickedNite:
Btw, can anyone modify the bootanimation? I just want the background to be black but retain the Android loading image. :)
[Captivate Android Development] Chuckd610:
I tried CM7 today. Heck of a lot of extra tweaks. Like you said, definately not ready to go yet, but promising.
[Captivate Android Development] mopo01:
There is a thread in the themes and app forum for paragon
[Captivate Android Development] CapnPez:
I can whip something up real quick. I'll post it in the theme thread that Bentonhall started.

Also, I think I got all the boot animations that were posted here up on the theme thread (as well as a new one that I made in response to Kyuta Syuko's request), but if anyone notices that I missed any, let me know and I'll get them there in one of the first several posts. If anyone has any other requests for theme related things, they should probably ask there. They're all Paragon based right now, but we could probably cater to anyone who wants help with something.
[Captivate Android Development] Jammn:
Is the Paragon kernel available for download separately?

Edit: Sorry for this post... I found it
[Captivate Android Development] WickedNite:
That would be great! Just post it up and I'll watch the thread over. Thanks! :cool:
[Captivate Android Development] CapnPez:
Just to be sure, were you talking about pretty much the same bootani as what usually came stock with the Paragon ROMs except with a black background instead of the metal honeycomb? (ANDROID in green text with a white dot going back and forth underneath?)
[Captivate Android Development] qynt:
Don't know if you had it on but, the GPS works best with WIFI off.
[Captivate Android Development] jayjr1105:
Think it would be possible to get a flashable color pack to restore color menus/dialer/notifications/progress bars/etc. I hate that I have to nitpick about this but the rom itself is such a solid rock there's really nothing much else to fix/nag about. I flashed the green/stock theme for menu and pwr menu fix but still miss it on the dialer, progress bars and such.
[Captivate Android Development] RaneMan:
Search the thread. I believe this has already been addressed.

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Sent from my Samsung Captivate using the XDA app

ROM: Paragon RC5.1 1200 mhz/100hz kernel
[Captivate Android Development] Kyuta Syuko:
For the Settings and Extended Power Menu but not for the other items they mentioned afaIk.

Besides you know you're doing good when the only thing people have to complain about is the colors.
[Captivate Android Development] Phateless:
Didn't get this on rc5 but am seeing it on rc6. Connects to internet just fine though. Any help appreciated!!