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[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zanderman112:
Okay try this on the Eclair epic. Get launcherpro(just cause this is how i did it), you dont have to use it just go to whatever launcher it normally uses, hit menu>add>shortcut>activities, then scroll down and look for Sound Recorder. Select that and it'll add a shortcut to the homescreen. When you record, it saves the file to the root of the sd card if I remember right. I think this is what you are looking for. Hope this helps.

Sent from The Chaotic Void.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leatherneck6017:
Is her phone rooted and clockworked? If so I could whip up a simple .zip to flash through cwm. Since it's a system app, installing through a file manager won't work. If you're familiar with pushing files through adb you could always copy the app from your phone and push it to hers.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greezestain:
I did manage to get the Sound Recorder working, and its interface for recording is exactly what she needs. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any kind of interface for playback, which leaves her at a loss. :(

Leatherneck, her phone isn't rooted. I'm sort of keeping it as the control in our little home Android experiment. If she *really* feels like she needs this app, I may just bite the bullet and do it, but I'm hoping that I can just convince her to use something else.

I think my best option is going to be to download one of the crappy free sound recorders on the Market and just cross my fingers for Froyo sometime within my lifetime. Thank you both very much for your help.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zanderman112:
Yeah, that's the only flaw. I think the files show up in the music player under a playlist called my recordings.

Sent from The Chaotic Void.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greezestain:
Yes they do! Nice! That's exactly what she needs. Thank you!
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zanderman112:
I'm glad to have been some help.

Sent from The Chaotic Void.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] midnight2814:
Does anybody have the stock visual voicemail apk? I hate the one available through the market and I really liked the black skinned one that came with my phone.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eggnoodle:
Here you go, hope this is what you're looking for.

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[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] midnight2814:
That's it, thank you so much!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JN9391:
I need help getting out of factory reset, it's been 1 hour since i did the reset and it's been on the same screen with "E: Missing bitmap indertermined (code -7)". Is there any way I can fix this?

Edit: I was rooted and had Auxara 2.2.6.0 installed.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] megatherian:
what's with people double posting in multiple sections today?

Odin back to stock. Check out the Vibrant Bible if you need help w/that.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JN9391:
Ok, I did Odin and followed every step but as soon as Odin finished it reset but my phone never turned back on. So now what happened? Is there any fixes or do I just have to go through warranty?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xriderx66:
Does it still turn on? Meaning lights turn on or it says vibrant on the screen?

If not do a warranty, somehow u might have hard bricked
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JN9391:
Oh god. Think I'm the first person to have hard bricked a Vibrant >=(
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mdof1337:
When my Vibrant wouldn't turn on like that I just left it plugged in to the wall for about 20 minutes and then tried download mode again and it worked. So let it sit on power briefly and see if that does anything. This phone is incredibly hard to brick.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JN9391:
Ok thanks for the help.

I'll try leaving my phone charged overnight and see what happens in the morning.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xriderx66:
Na there are others including me but the rest issues were complex, idk how this happened just like that.

Try charging may be out of battery?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JN9391:
I left my phone charging while I had issues during the factory reset issue, I'm starting to think it wasn't able to charge at the time and then when I did the Odin my phone died, so for some odd reason my phone might not be detecting the charger. =/
[Epic 4G General] doctehroc:
Hi all, I am getting really slow transfer speeds over wifi and bluetooth using either ES or astro file manager. I have wifi sync working in winamp and transfers in winamp are blazing fast. I have a n router n laptop and the epic is of course wireless n. Idk what could be causing th problem. I doubt its an issue with my rom, I'm using TruelyEpic Rebirth. Has anyone else experienced really slow local transfers? Is there a way to improve the speed? It should really be very fast, faster than usb, over wireless n. Thanks
[Captivate General] alme1304:
A while ago I got tired of having 3G all the time, so I started using samservice app in order to manually switch to edge. But now the phone switched to edge automatically but never goes back to 3g unless I restart it.

Did I use the wrong command or something?

Thank you
[Captivate General] alme1304:
no one knows?
[Droid Incredible General] rkmFL:
I'm lucky enough to have multiple Inc's I can compare side-by-side. This week, I took the time to test-drive a few Kernels.

My goal is to find the (1) most stable, (2) best performing w/good battery life. Basically undervolt kernel testing.

Unfortunately, I really can't find much difference between these popular variants.

The battery life seems to be roughly equal on all of them, as does the stability (barring IcrediKernel, which had some issues in my testing with SkyRaider).

I tested (all current versions as of 1/10/2011):

* Redemptive with Lou's included kernel

* SkyRaider Sense with Ziggy's kernel

* SkyRaider Sense with KingX kernel

* SkyRaider Sense with Incredi kernel

KingX #6 scores almost 100 better than the next best in Quadrant. However, outside of that, I cannot really discern a major difference.

KingX seems to have the most significant changes in his changelog. Ziggy also seems to be brilliant, and yet, I really don't see any real differences between the kernels once implemented on my phone.

Can anyone help me isolate the differences -- perhaps I'm looking in the wrong place? I've basically tried to use everything I can think of, on the phone -- using each kernel, and tested all of them in power-save mode, tethered, etc.

Thanks in advance for any additional points to review..
[Droid Incredible General] bomber889:
quadrant is useless.

lou's kernels are great for me.

each phone is different so you'll have to test whichever one works best for you
[Droid Incredible General] rkmFL:
Sure, of course. I'm familiar with the stock answer to the "which kernel is better" post.

That being said, I was asking something a bit different. I've *been* testing the kernels. The point of my post was to suggest that I cannot discern the difference after spending several hours with them.

With that in mind, I was asking if there is something specific I should be looking for, since I haven't found it (not with battery life, performance, or stability -- not with what I'm testing presently anyway).

Although, in addition to my original question -- of where to look to seek differences ... you do bring up another good point -- why is it that different phones (assuming they are the *same* model/android/radio version -- eg OLED 2.2's), would perform differently with identical kernels?
[Droid Incredible General] bomber889:
A few hours is not enough testing time for kernels. You need atleast a full charge down to 0 with a kernel to see how good the battery life is. Also, to judge the performance, you'll need a little more time for that too. Each phone is different. Some processors can take lesser voltages, high clocks than others. I'm not sure why this is, but it is. Honestly, I'm sure all the kernels are very good because the devs are excellent. But, some just work well for others while the same one doesn't for someone else. As I said before, just test out a kernel for a day or two, see how you like each one, and stay with it. If you battery life is being affected greatly, or your phone runs too hot or something, then switch to a different one.
[Droid Incredible General] rkmFL:
At this point, I have more than 3 days or more on the following kernels:

* Redemptive with Lou's included kernel (3 days)

* SkyRaider Sense with KingX kernel (3 days)

* SkyRaider Sense with Ziggy's kernel (14 days)

* SkyRaider Sense with Stock kernel (22 days)

(Incredi -- I only had about 4 hours over two tests/loads and re-flashed, due to problems)

I've never run my batteries down to zero as you've mentioned. I've run them down to 10-20% on rare occasion.

In essence, what you are saying is that there really is nothing specific to keep an eye out for? If I don't see an obvious difference somewhere, there is no significant difference between the 4 kernels I have listed above? And Quadrant is of no help ... so in short, if they all get the same battery life, I just just pick one randomly?

I just want to believe there must be a more scientific/objective way of evaluating these kernels relative of each other.
[Droid Incredible General] bomber889:
if they are all pretty much the same to you, pick the one that makes you happy and that feels like it has the best performance and battery life. Maybe ask one of the devs about some scientific way of how each kernel is different from each other.
[Droid Incredible General] rkmFL:
The problem is that I've built an app that our company uses over 18 phones that get run 9 hours a day, and the DInc's were overheating.

I went to Skyraider w/stock kernel, and that seemed to address the problem, at least it appears to reboot much less than the stock DInc's.

However, since I've made the commitment/risk of rooting/flashing these phones, I'd like to find some systematic method to determine which is the most efficient kernel to use, considering I have 18 phones in-the-field.

As a software engineer/empiricist, I'm not good at accepting the logic of "if it works, it's good enough". And so my objective is to find someone that may have some additional perspectives beyond that.

If there is a developer who sees this, I'd very much appreciate any information you can provide on how your kernel differs from others. Or someone who has some additional information.

Thank you in advance,

RKM
[Droid Incredible General] thehoovie:
Hi! One thing that affects performance is SD Card Read Speeds. Ziggy and Incredi have an improved read speed, I just tested both and got 12mb/sec read with a class 4 card. Since HTC released FroYo Android 2.2 for our phone, they implemented a read speed limit of four MB/sec for the SD card. I just tested Lou and King and got read speeds of 4mb/sec from the SD card. All Fourkernels I got a write speed of 4 mb/sec.

Other major differences I think worth mentioning are that Ziggy includes a hosts file to block connections to advertising servers. But of course installing a different kernel leaves the new host file in place. Multi touch, I love the piano and playing games so this matters to me. Ziggy has had a 5 point multi touch enabled for some time. Lou & incredi have implemented in a different way. I am not the one to explain the differences. Lou turned it on for up to five multi touch points(but disabled it in his last build). Incredi had enabled all ten multi touch points but is now also at 5. Debugging. Lou disabled debugging so apps that rely on it will not work. Ex.... PDAnet. Lou did have wireless N disabled, he said he felt due to the minor network speed increase it was not worth the extra battery usage. But reading his change log I see it has since been re enabled.

Which one is best for you? It really does depend on too many factors to say outright. Depending on the apps you have installed, and apps you use the most. I listen to music a lot. Using one that lowers clock speed a bunchwhen the screen is off makes themusic skip. In theory you will get better battery life, but imo, its not worth sacrificing that usability.

Please correct me if I am wrong, mis informed, or steering peoples wrong. I hope this helps to understand some differences.

Overheating. It seems that the consensus is that the 9.01 radio works best for most people. Not me. The 9.01 version makes my phone get very hot. I use the 7.28 radio and it makes a big difference in my phone not getting hot.

What issues did you have with the incredi that made you have to abandon it so quickly?

~TheHoovie

Sent from my HTC Droid Incrediblel.

P.s. did you forget to include Chad/incredi in this threadstitle?
[Droid Incredible General] m411b:
I've been wondering pretty much the same thing, and I have been reading the different changelogs from the respective kernels to find the differences between them. Thanks to you thehoovie for a good explaination, you put to light some things I have been wondering. Very good explaination!

With that said, what has worked best for me, is RR 2.1.3 with Ziggy's new kernel (BFS Jan 2 2011). I get great battery, I can control the freqs the proccessor is at all the way down to 128mhz, the system is very stable, and have had no problems what so ever. I get roughly 2 days out of a full charge with moderate use on a 1350 battery!
[Droid Incredible General] rkmFL:
@TheHoovie -

Excellent, excellent information, thank you!

I did not include Incredi in the title, because I had problems with it (mentioned in first post). To answer your question, there were two things. One more subtle, that I don't remember off-hand -- and the other, was with downloading from the Internet. I had installed twice, on a SkyRaider ROM, and in both events, Incredi would hang when downloading.

I distribute all of our private, in-house software releases through our website. So not being able to download from the web in my testing .. was a deal killer!

Our users take roughly 900 photos a day, on average. Therefore, SD speed is extremely important, and I never would have tested the differences between kernels. This is exactly the type of feedback I was hoping to find -- in other words, I was not asking "which is best for me", but instead "can someone help me know where to look for differences in performance". Your comment on SD, is a perfect example of such a factor, thank you!

...Does anyone else have any suggestions, beyond SD performance and battery life, as to other factors for comparison/testing?

@m411b -

I cannot imagine getting two days on a 1350mah, this would be amazing! I'm running off to test your suggestion (RR + Ziggy's) now. Just one question: where do you set the CPU frequencies using that RR+Ziggy configuration?

EDIT: I just tested SkyRaider + Ziggy's #15, and it seems to be running very good. Ziggy's #15 also uses a low-power Bluetooth driver, which will be a huge help for us (we use BT to communicate between DInc's and gTablets in our app).

Thank you again for the great info!
[Droid Incredible General] rkmFL:
One more related question...

Have people been moving away from these Sense ROM's to CM7/Gingerbread, and if so, any feedback on stability?

I keep reading about CM7 adoptions and it's starting to make me wonder if I should give the new Gingerbread version a try.

I have not tested CM since v6 about 45 days ago, but at that point, there were some issues on the DInc.
[Droid Incredible General] DjCalvin:
Suggestion:

1. turn off wifi.

2. turn on gps

Launch Last.fm or pandora - stream your favorite music station.

Launch navigation, Navigate somewhere.. (I actually do this.. I just use gps when I am out running errands for an hour or so)

See how long the following lasts:

1. Battery

2. Time without crashing

That's been my simple testing of kernels. This is not scientific.. its just real world testing IMO

I am currently playing with Lou's #4 vs #8 on the same rom.. I think testing on multiple roms would bring in more factors you cant control.

#4 crashes way too often when running navigation (its fine for day to day use though)
[Droid Incredible General] TokedUp:
been using Lous #8 on SR3.5 and it blew me away with battery life as well as performance. I flashed #9 yesterday and am gonna give it a day or two before i judge it. I had previously used Chad's and Hydra. Chad's wasnt the best and hyrda was great for OC performance but not for battery life.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pileot:
Im a little confused, hoping someone here can shed some light for me... what is the current firmware? can someone who knows give me a quick rundown of the versions and (if its not against forum rules) links to the firmwares? i gotta return my phone to stock but cant seem to find consistent information anywhere.

Thanks Electroz for your quick answer:

UGJG9 was the initial August 2.1 release.

UGJH2 was an updated 2.1 release.

UGJK4 was the initial December 2.2 release.

UGJL2 is the current 2.2 release.

New question: Which PIT files go with which firmwares? i got a 512, 513, and 803, not sure which ones should be used with which firmware, if anyone can clear this up for me i would greatly appreciate it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Electroz:
UGJG9 was the initial August 2.1 release.

UGJH2 was an updated 2.1 release.

UGJK4 was the initial December 2.2 release.

UGJL2 is the current 2.2 release.

Any of these are considered stock firmwares and fine to have loaded for a return to Samsung.

Hope this helps!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pileot:
Next question, is there a place i can get the latest firmware (not through kies), or is linking to the firmwares not allowed on this forum? doing a search for UGJL2 is not proving very successful. (or is there more i should be searching for aside from just 'UGJL2'?)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtg2:
JK3 is another release and although popular was not official.

JK4 should NEVER be used. Samsung pulled it due to a very high failure rate it was causing with these phones.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtg2:
I'm not at my pc so I can't provide a direct link but you can go to samfirmware.com, register for an account avs d/l the firmwares you want.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pileot:
derp

have an account there already, was thrown off because none of the files are listed for canada, confused me.

Downloading now, thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
yup... according to Samsung stock ROMs, Canada is a state of USA :p
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pileot:
ok new question, any idea which pit files are supposed to go with which firmwares?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droilfade:
Maybe slightly off topic but in need of help so-

I bricked my phone. Phone does not enter recovery or download. Called Bell. They are sending me a replacement. My phone was totally modded. I have two questions.

1) Can they find out that I had rooted the phone?

2) will they charge for me the replacement that they send in?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seeARMS:
If your internal SD is dead, it's dead. No one's pulling any data off it; it's built into the motherboard.

No, they won't charge you anything. You should have actually gotten a 100$ credit for the 'inconvenience'.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtg2:
Check the samfirmware.com site. They list the pit file next to firmware version. The canadian firmwares begin with i9000ug
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droilfade:
Thanks that relieves a lot of pressure. I'm not being charged for the period of repairs. I did ask about $100. The representative said there is nothing of that sort!!!! And I don't know if my internal SD is dead..Do you think its fried?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pileot:
well for me flashing the GJL2 firmware with Odin revived it, so if your not worried about trying you might give it a shot.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droilfade:
I just realised...it shows the I9000 screen instead of the I9000m So they can find out even before they do anything..... :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zumi78878:
Hey, if i load JH2 onto it, and I use pit 512, as it said, do I use odin 1.0, 1.3 or 1.8?? also, do I have to checl "re-partition"? please answer fast, it wuld be great help! thanks alot! :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droilfade:
Use ODIN 1.3 and chcek repartition
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtg2:
The answer for JG8, JH2, JK3 and JL2 is PIT 512.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droilfade:
Also check this website before you do anything------http://androidspin.com/2010/08/09/how-to-restore-or-recover-your-samsung-vibrant/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+androidspin/feed+(AndroidSPIN+|+Your+No.1+source+for+Android+news.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zumi78878:
another person told me to NOT check re-partition and check the bootloader option? btw, THIS IS FOR FLASHING THE ORIGINAL FIRMWARE FOR SENDING BACK TO BELL!

so again, if i use odin 1.3, would JH2 work(for sending back to bell)? and do i still need to check re-partition? and do i need to check update bootloader? or do i do both? or do i do one after another? thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droilfade:
That is why check the link on top to know for sure!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zumi78878:
This is what somebody told me to do:

1) Use JL2

2) I've never had a problem with v1.3 of Odin so go for it.

oh okay, i just did that.

however, yesterday, i did used odin 1.3, and then i did re-partition... with JL2 and PIT 512.. cuz somebody else told me to do that.

What i did:

Yesterday: Odin 1.3 re-partition with JL2 and PIT 512

Today: Odin 1.3 bootloader update with JL2 ONLY

So, do I have to like reverse it something? or is it fine already to send back to bell?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droilfade:
I think it is ok....does your phone boot up?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zumi78878:
no. it is stuck at the samsung boot loop, thats why they sent me a replacement phone. I just need to flash this back to the original firmware. so they dont charge me.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtg2:
Put it in the mail.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aub_pro:
How do i flash my sgs vibrant i9000m from bell back to stock firmware? I have looked everywhere and all guides are for international i9000. i tried signing up for samfirmwares and it says that there was a temporary error on there site, tried every browser and get the same error. is there a guide somewhere on how to flash back to stock firmware? i'm useing darkys rom right now and no darkys official page doesnt help his guide is for i9000 not bell i9000m.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gfacer:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=846913

The link for ugjl2 is there (in the us section).

As for what they look for at repair - I had seearms rom on mine when my sd failed but couldn't connect to Odin (since figured out it was a dirty usb port), No problems at all and my phone would actually fully boot up but not store any user apps or data (with i9000 shown too). I would just send it in and fight if it is an issue. I think they are so used to the lemons that they really don't care that much about the letter of the warrenty but as the failure rate is going down lets hope that doesn't change.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cryous:
Is there any way to control when the BACK LIGHT for the hard BUTTONS, I want to turn them off for certain things. Any help is appreciated

Sent from my HTC Incredible
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] setexascustoms:
There's an app in the market call "LEDs Hack" that will let you turn them off, you must be rooted of course. Hope this helps. :D
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cryous:
Thanks!

Cryoush