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[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThunderPuppy:
:confused: Support from U.S. Merchants???

Has anyone seen even a hint of support from U.S.M.?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neoprimal:
I think maybe that video is being taken a little out of context. It sounds like she's just saying the 10s will be sold by/through and supported by Viewsonic while the G Tablet has been pretty much wholly sold/distributed by merchants like Staples, Sears, Amazon, etc. It is likely that with the bad 'press', Staples premature action and VS terrible support the G Tablet has been tarnished somewhat irrevocably. Whether they are going to attempt to fix this or just move on to their next batch of tablets, who knows? I don't think Sears pulled it, seems more like it ran out and they don't want to order another batch. I can't find G Tablets at any local stores now, they're all pretty much sold by Amazon, Buy.com or JR.com.

I bet as far as support goes, it will be the same or similar to what's going on with the G Tablet, ie: little to no support anyway - lol.

The 10s really just (from the tech specs) seems like a G Tablet with less on board storage and a hdmi slot built into it. The biggest difference I'm seeing is that the model number is now Viewsonic V185 (I think?) vs. the UPC300 universal to our Malata based hardware....which could mean something (that VS is dabbling with the software in-house) or nothing (that they're getting Zpad software from Malata for it directly, or TnT software from TnT for it, same as the G Tablet). From the video, that's looking like the Zpad ui, so maybe VS has dropped TnT for their Android layer or that is a non-US version of the 10s.

I also suspect that it will be sold directly from VS, unlike the G Tablet.

In the end, I'm not thinking this is any indication that support will be dropped for the G Tablet per se, as it's not like it was REALLY there in the first place - am I right?. Seems like a G Tablet with less on-board storage and a more hands-on approach (possibly) by VS who will hopefully now know what tablets they sell as well as a purposeful shedding of the G Tablet name for good measure....unless they full well and knew exactly why they didn't want to stick their Viewpad® moniker on the G Tablet in the first place.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cutterjohn:
From the specs that's a VERY different 10" tablet than the one that they originally had specs for up on their website which was an Atom based dual booting Windows 7/Android 1.6 device with a $600 price tag tablet.

This one looks like the Malata ZPad with the miniPCIe connector(and presumably 3G radio) left on it since it states optional 3G but all the other specs looking to be the same as the gTablet.

As to the gTablet, the Viewsonic name/brand is prominently displayed on BOTH the device and the packaging, and I never noticed the US Merchants thing until having the unit unboxed and looking at the back of it...

Support: They still have to at least get TapnCrap stable & release flash o.w. they're guilty of false marketing.

[EDIT]

Yep, just a less cost "reduced" version of the gTablet... I'm almost positive... same screen, same basic side port design, etc. I'm betting that they're going to try to sell it at a higher price, maybe even the $600 or so that their original x86 10" tablet was supposed to go for... and I see it looks like they're not using TapnCrap...

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[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sjmoreno:
Like others have said, I've never thought about my gTab as a Viewsonic or US Merchants device. It wouldn't make a bit of difference to me if they will or will not "support" this tablet.

I think of my gTab as an XDA device. If it wasn't for the excellent work of the folks that create the custom roms and all the other tweaks I would have never bought, much less kept, this wonderful tablet.

Viewsonic can come up with newer and "better" tablets in the future (both near and far) and I "may" be interested in them but for now I am loving my gTab and with the advent of the next rom being Gingerbread based I'm sure I will continue to get a lot of use and enjoyment out it for a long while.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brian_h_kim:
via twitter:

@sam96_77

Sam

@ViewSonic there are reports that viewsonic will not support g-tablet but instead support viewpad 10S going forward. is that true?

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@ViewSonic

ViewSonic Corp

@sam96_77 Both products will be supported. Rumors not true AT ALL! ^AH
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimcpl:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=919117

They just posted in that thread. Doubt that they'd still be lurking here if they weren't going to support it?

Jim
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rapcon:
I agree wholeheartedly. Lets develop a boot animation that says:

RGR Tablet
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OfficialViewSonic:
Setting the Record Straight

See what happens when I go to CES?!

Glad there's so much discussion about the G-Tablet. Let me try to help resolve some of the confusion...

We now have 4 full-sized tablets we've introduced.

G-Tablet you all know

ViewPad 7 - 7 inch Qualcom Processor running Froyo. 3G and voice ready (integrated SIM)

ViewPad 10 - 10 inch Dual Boot Win 7 / Android 1.6 (soon to be higher)

ViewPad 10S - Tegra II -based Froyo device

First, let me make one thing clear: ALL PRODUCTS HAVE FULL SUPPORT. The G-Tablet has a different support line mainly due to its more retail/end-user distribution. That line is managed by USMerchants, hence our sales rep's comments.

The G-Tablet is not going away. We have an OTA upgrade scheduled for later this week, and are looking at different OS loads on it (hint hint).

Google does not support Google Mobile Services or the Android App Store on any 10" tablet running Froyo. Adobe does not support Flash on any 10" Tegra II Tablet running Froyo.

While we originally were launching the 10S only in Europe and Russia, we are now considering bringing it to the Americas as well.

We have many more Tablets in different configurations and sizes in the works, so you'll continue to see great things from us.

Thank you all for your continued interest and support for our products. I'll keep you updated!
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimcpl:
RGR? What's that?

Jim
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] S2W:
Thanks for setting the record straight as you meantioned, and taking the time to do so here.

We are looking forward to the updates and truly appreciate the info provided. We have heard many comments about adobe not certifying flash for 10' tablets, but do you forsee some movement towards bring flash to light?

In a way im glad I posted this thread. lol
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neoprimal:
The Viewpad 10 is a different monster from the Viewpad 10s. I have a problem with the name 10s, only because someone attempting to pluralize Viewpad 10, may accidentally talk about a different model entirely. Would have been better as 10anything else in the alphabet than 10s, lol.

I highly doubt they'll sell it at a higher price than the G Tablet. But if you notice in official channels, the G Tablet is slowly going up. I've seen it at $350 (yes, new) and now it's $416 on Amazon.

The Viewpad 10 has caused a big issue at Sears because it was initially advertised for what is actually the G Tablet and if you check the comments/reviews you'll see many-a disgruntled buyer screaming at how their Viewpad 10 doesnt come with Windows at all. Can't blame VS for the 600+ price either. For some reason I haven't seen any Windows 7 based tablets at a pricepoint less than 600, meaning more than like they are paying a premium (at least way more than for arm based hardware) for the guts as well as factoring in a cost for a license (which isn't the case for Android).
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
Good post. Clear and concise!

BTW: "Flash not supported with 2.2 and Tegra II" plus "hint hint" = Android 2.3 ;)
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brian_h_kim:
gingerbread?

it better be honeycomb...!
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n2thecloud:
Title needs to change on this thread... "g tablet supported"

Change the title of the thread...It's as official as it gets. A few posts back...

Plus WE have the gtabdev team! The three Amigos! The best devs out there working on our behalf. I feel that they have been excellent and this device gets better and better each week.:)
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimcpl:
I don't know for sure, but I think that there are more than "three". I have the impression that there are others, who don't post a lot, or at all, who have contributed to the Gtab effort. Then again, I may be wrong :)...

Jim
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] switt:
LOL @ 7" tablet with voice support :D.

I'd love one of those dual boot W7/Android tabs if you can get Honeycomb on it.

Great to see a company committed to their products.

BTW, for anyone else interested it looks like there's a stable 2.2 build of x86 Android: http://www.android-x86.org/download .
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] S2W:
Definitely changed the title thread...

Viewsonic has proven to be a company who has come forward to hear our thoughts.

I also agree to assume there have been other collaborators who have contributed in the forum. My thanks to them as well.

Honeycomb would be the preference...
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimcpl:
Like the new title better :)...

And, thanks!

Jim
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] S2W:
Yeah I like it better too... lol

No need to, just trying to do my part in contributing info. Cause im a fan of our tablets and the support here.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mb2k:
I'm not one to post random comments much, but after seeing the VS post I felt an urge to share a few thoughts:

Any company that has representation on a forum such as this has earned both my respect and my confidence in potential future purchases.

The vague nature of the post is understandable and hearing that another stock update is on the way is encouraging. Shows me that VS is actively trying to improve their product.

While I agree with most on this forum about the problems with stock TNT, I remind myself this: If given a choice last month of paying for a premature product or waiting for a Google approved one, the tinkerer in me would definitely choose the former.

Goes to show that CE companies would be well served to embrace their customers and learn what the community has to offer.

Lastly, in my opinion, THE only negative about the GTab is the screen. VS if you're listening, we would love (and pay) for an optional screen upgrade.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimcpl:
Heartily agree w your 1st 2 points, and I can esp. understand about 'vagueness'. I've been (pleasantly) surprised that anyone from the company posting here, esp. apparently someone from mgmt.

It's kind off refreshing, don't you think?

Jim
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheKaz:
Wow. I sent an email late last week to Viewsonic Android support last week about all the chatter here, and I was wondering why I hadn't heard from them .. glad they came right here to set the record straight...
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spykat:
"Looking at different OS loads (hint hint) I wonder what that could mean? Hopefully it doesn't include TapnTap, or the generic or should I say stock anything, this is a freaking sexy machine I personally expect the OS to be as well.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcbooth:
Viewsonic's new 10S tablet looks identical to the Advent Vega - the same tablet currently available from the UK and what VEGAn rom is based on. The hardware specs are identical and from the pics I can find they look the same.

This is great news. It means that whatever support the 10S enjoys the G Tablet should also see the benefits, considering the Vega rom was ported to the G Tablet so easily.

Viewsonic 10S pics (second set)

http://www.engadget.com/photos/viewsonic-viewpad-10s-hands-on/#3764565

Advent Vega pics

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...aptops-and-netbooks/advent-vega-912380/review
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sam96_77:
Funny I was going to post this. Although viewsonic launched the product with some flaws. But they worked hard to deliver frequent updates. Better than many others who are waiting 6 months or more.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toddmp:
Everyone please click the THANKS tab at the bottom of the OfficialViewSonic posts.

The company needs to know just how much respect we have for them coming here and interacting with us. Also be sure to thank all the devs on this device. This device would be off the shelves and forgotten about if it werent for them supporting us early adopters.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NMCBR600:
Other OS - Linux

I'd like to see an full blown version of Linux with all the functions enabled, touchscreen, networking, etc.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lafm15:
Newbiee...

Just want to say thanks to all the devs for making this tablet everything it is...

And to ViewSonic, hands down the best technical support and interaction with a comunity anyone has ever heard of!!!

not like that fruit company...

BTW, can't see the "thank" button on the VS thread to thank them...maybe cause I'm nubby...
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trscons:
I really appreciate having the Viewsonic personnel here. And those developers who continue to provide feedback to Viewsonic deserve much thanks too. Frankly I am not that knowledgeable to flash ROMs and root software but those good things will eventually flow to end users like me. I bought the gTablet last November so I wouldn't have to lug a laptop on a long trip. It has more than fulfilled my desire to keep up with my swing trading, mail and banking while traveling by train across two-thirds of this country. Watching a movie, playing Angry Birds filled the a bit of downtime out of WiFi range from the larger cities -- and just one battery charge needed for each direction. After reading all the CES reports, I don't see anything that interests me. The gTablet has a good pricepoint, and help has been great.

Tom
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stanglx:
100% agree... Just wish the screen was better...
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cutterjohn:
Cost untrue. gTablet is now $379 @ Office Depot AND back at Sears. Also saw $379 IIRC @ Amazon the other day(was looking for alternate sources if Sears, etc. stopped selling them and I needed to get a replacement or another unit).

x86 Tablet cost: gTablet was wedged between TWO CHEAPER(ASUS & Toshiba ffs) netbook displays at BOTH Staples & Sears one having a c. $250 price and the other c. $300, i.e. no way are these cheaper to build than the gTablet. They're just playing games with tablet pricing ATM to see how much they can lift out of consumer/business pockets before they wise up, and maybe they'll get lucky and they won't. PM on tablets branded and sold in NA/Western Europe must be ENORMOUS, probably better than Apple's...

Sears: I know about the incorrect specs on the web site initially. And yes, VS sucks at naming products... or at least insofar as differentiating between products by naming goes...
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lafm15:
ota upgrade scheduled for last week

Does anyone know anything on when this update is coming???

thx
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spykat:
Funny how Viewsonic came in here and dropped some BS on us, made some lame promises and vanished, promises not kept and I find myself starting to believe the initial post, which I will until I'm proven wrong, it would be a big disappointment if the G never see's Honeycomb.

But in the meantime Vegan works perfecto.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abstrusius:
Sorry, but I have to disagree. Viewsonic has kept its promises since it first post here in December. The OTA updates actually improved the performance a LOT, even making the TnT UI usable. I trust VS and believe it, at the very least, will indeed issue a Gingerbread upgrade to the G-Tablet.

Thank you VS!
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vsc:
At this point if Viewsonic continues to provide updates and maintains the price point, they will have a market for their tablets. Who will be willing to pay $>500 for a WiFi only tablet? What about the claims with respect to the Xoom's pricing?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trscons:
The 3389 update is working well. About the only thing missing for me is Java in order to run my broker's active trader market application, but that's an Android problem. I was taking notes at a seminar the other day, and virtually all of the 20 attendees and the broker rep doing the training were looking at this gTablet. I blew their minds with the battery life and they were surprised how easy the screen was to read in direct sunlight. I did cheat a a bit; I had to turn up the brightness from the usual setting from the minimum setting I normally use. The two most asked questions were "where did you get it" and "how much" -- and I told them about the Viewsonic support and these forums. I think I'll see some of these units at next month's seminars.

Tom
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlytle1234:
I dont think we will see a 2.3. Most likely it will be 2.4.

I think the holdup is because Google asked companies not to roll out 2.3 and wait for 2.4. Which I think is in April.

Crossing fingers for 3.0

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/38311/android-2-4-april-release-date
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WantADroid:
Hmm

This statement makes me thing we will see HoneyComb at some point.

"Google does not support Google Mobile Services or the Android App Store on any 10" tablet running Froyo. Adobe does not support Flash on any 10" Tegra II Tablet running Froyo."

As I understand it the claim of "Full Flash support" on the Gtab will force VS to get us an OS google has indorsed! For tablets I beleive HoneyComb will be the first to have such indorsements...

IMHO! :D
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] edirector:
Thanks for the informative post. I think we can all remedy getting after purchase support by calling Viewsonic (866) 501-6405 regarding our G Tab and introducing (not threatening) the idea we could garner media coverage about needing Viewsonic product support no matter where it is being sold. If many called stating the same need, then we could move them towards getting a Honeycomb release for us directly from Google.

Ok, so Google doesn't support Froyo, however, a tablet is a tablet. The more people who have the appropriate operating systems for their tablets, then the more people who can access the Android Marketplace to utilize it and make purchases. There would be no loss for Google. Viewsonic gets to change public perception.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WantADroid:
Agreed

I agree, and I will make a call to VS! I have emailed the VP of marketing regarding Honeycomb, and I got a response stating that "I will look into it". I guess we can all put in a request with VS and see what happens.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neo4uo:
To recall something that I read about the versions in general...Google officially all but said that 2.3 was for mobile devices only and that 3.0 was for tablets only and that in the near future their would be a version hybrid called ice cream aka 2.4 that would be for both mobile and tablets merged together.

So my guess would be if Viewsonic was smart they would implement the tablet version which would be Honeycomb. You know who really knows what is going on or going to happen, it can sometimes change like underwear...lol.

Either way...we will be getting Honeycomb officially or unofficially. After the power of the XDA forums bringing Samsung down to our lvl anything is possible. If you don't know what I am talking about, read the Fascinate forums. Apparently Samsung has taken some interest into what is going on in this forum board and has been gracious enough to accept input from users on here and possible work with the devs here. Now if a big company like Samsung starts listening others will follow. I mean take this thread for instance...I am pleased that a rep from Viewsonic is communicating on here :)
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roxxas049:
Well just how much input do we think that VS has in the specs or production software that goes into these tablets?

Do they have a firm hand in what comes off of the assembly line or are they merely putting their name on a finished product and then telling us what we want to hear?

I play guitars for a 2nd living atm, I can go buy a Gibson and know that they designed and built the guitar from the ground up. I would pay 2-3 thousand for the one guitar, but I can be sure that any problem I may have can be handled by the name on the guitar or I can buy an off brand guitar, pay 5-6 hundred, knowing that they are only putting their name on a blank, and hope that what I get will be a good enough product to please me, because I know any feedback from me will go in one ear and out the other.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] y2k-inc:
Now this is interesting ... it's still a Tagra 2 base, so if they push this one to have HoneyC, we might got it ported to the g-tab with a minor modification :)

Now, if we are want to do something, i guess with all the mase of users and dev, here, we can all goto Viewsonic FB and post our message requesting future support for the GB 2.3.4 or HC 3.0 ... maybe that just have to merge the nVidia driver into the Googles AOPS code and leave the reste to our genius here :)
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJEvans:
That's only IF the version of Tegra 2 is the same on that one as teh G-tab. Tegra 2 comes in 2 flavors, Harmony, which we have and they will not support unless vendors request it, and Ventana, which is in the xoom, for example, that they have decided to support instead of Harmony.

edit, wanted to add:

This is what annoys me most about Nvidea's place in all of this. They built this great board, to power our G-tabs, and it is one of hte best out there. Unfortunately, the software available was unable to meet the potential of the hardware. As the software starts catching up, Nvidea has decided that they will end developmental support of the Harmony chipset. So, it doesn't appear that Nvidea is willing ot let G-tab users realize the true potential of the hardware that they've built...I wonder if the folks that developed the Harmony chipset are just as annoyed that they're work will never be seen doing what it's capable of doing.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] y2k-inc:
It's not the chip (H vs V) but a dev. platform, they are power by probably the same stupid Tegra2 chips only some others surrounding the chip that are difference between H vs V platform.

So basically we could rip those driver out of the Asus/Acer or Xoom and try to build Honey with it :)
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cbay:
This might not be easy to do, given that the drivers are not open source.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rcjpth:
Thanks - does it mean we will have HoneyComb for Gtablet sooner or later in Summer 2011?

I really like Gtablet - very flexible and easy to work on such update, flash..etc. Will buy again if you have next gen Gtablet - I hope you will have a sleek design like Asus Transformer...etc!
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theistand:
Gotta say how unbelievably refreshing it is to see a company that not only stands behind it's product, but also isn't threatened by, nor threatening to developers and individuals who want nothing more than to make the product better! WAY to Go Viewsonic! I have purchased a few viewsonic products along the way, have the GTab (LOVE IT) and am planning on getting the TegraII .... now THAT is good marketing [;o)