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[HD2 General] Beefheart:
That is news to me, I'm running Jaws MIUI and, other than the MMS being a bit flaky, it's as good as perfect. As for you thinking WM7 is near perfect on the HD2, the storage issues and button configuration say otherwise in my opinion.
[HD2 General] k8108:
I can see the writing on the wall for this thread, but I will post my 2 cents' worth:

Android is my OS of choice, and I really can't see that changing. The reason being is that I am able to customize every inch of this phone to my specifications. Windows OS is so limited in that respect.

I am using Darkstone's SuperRam Froyo and it really can't be beat. I have no glitches, no hiccups.

Everything

works for me.

I also love having an app for every aspect of my life. As soon as I think of something I need - google it and Bam! there's an app for that!

I can't for the life of me see why I would trade this in for something as glitchy as Windows Mobile 7. Maybe when the rough spots are smoothed over I might give it a try, but right now I'm not convinced.

And don't even go there with 6.5 - I hated it from the getgo. Was so glad when I finally took the plunge and put Android on my phone.,
[HD2 General] matejdro:
My OS of choice is Android.

WinMo is very good OS, but simply outdated and there are practically no good commercial games/apps for that platform. It's more or less dead platform.

I have tried WP7 recently and i must say I'm impressed. When i watched about it on youtube, i thought it sucks hard. But i was impressed when i installed it. Everything was smooth and was simply working. Biggest problem was no good way to install apps. I don't want to give M$ my data for that code and sideloading does not work properly (it shows error that i have to uninstall app after some time). Also pinch to zoom is crappy. But otherwise really good OS.
[HD2 General] voileuxcool:
android :p
[HD2 General] Fuskand:
I fell in love with WP7. I miss how cool I could make android look, but dang, WP7 is so smooth and everything just werks.
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
Android's not smooth at all.

The button config can't be helped since the HD2 doesn't have a physical camera actuation button, and WP7 can't hardware map send/end call. But besides that, yeah it's pretty much as perfect as it is on an actual WP7 device (which also eats SD cards, doesn't save camera settings on exit, et cetera) if the end-user hasn't borked the install. The biggest part of this closeness comes from the smoothness and speed, which are comparable to WP7 on native handsets like the HD7.

Unless you mean to suggest that Android is nearly as fast and smooth on the HD2 as it is on native Android handsets..

What kind of glitches, besides the OS-related ones inherent to WP7 (e.g. eating SD cards)?

I just think there's a different superiority on native handsets vs. superiority on a hacked handset.
[HD2 General] steel69:
Have had wp7 installed for about 24 hours now and its a breath of fresh air. I was increasingly getting fed up of not having room on the home screen of my phone for my links and info, I have always thought the 5 or 7 horizontal screen screen swipe was best for tablets as you can have each page for different interests where as when I'm on my phone I need it there.

If Microsoft can keep updating the flaws I will be using wp7 for a phone and android for a tablet.
[HD2 General] Danation:
Android wins for me.

WP7 is very smooth, which is awesome. Also, I like the "time set" UI element (such as when setting an alarm.) It's really convenient.

But it's so limited. I feel like I'm in handcuffs. I can't have a background image. Very few apps support live tiles. Tiles are only 1x1 or 1x2. Live tiles are not interactive. The status bar keeps insisting that it should disappear after a few seconds. USB mass storage is a no-go. Pinch-zoom doesn't work correctly. Why can't I replace the keyboard?

The basic UI is terrible. There is so much wasted space, and I can't figure out why all of the words are cut off all of the time. So cluttered. Also... why is everything only one color? Can't I customize my phone?

The marketplace is an utter mess. I thought Android's market needed work (and it does) but this is enormously frustrating, trying to navigate through this mass of music and apps.

There's also not very many apps, though I suppose that will change in the future.

Android is so much more flexible. I will gladly take a little bit of lag if it comes with the freedom to actually be able to use my phone.

WinMo isn't really on the list for me. I used it for probably a grand total of 20 minutes since I owned this device and removed it as soon as NAND was released.
[HD2 General] edangel:
Damn i was so much fun of android on my hd2...!

After wp7 damn...this wp7 is awsome..720p video recording yeayy!!also games are better than android and u must try it..there are so many ways that u didnt learned for wp7!its not that simple as you thought..and marketplace huh..has many more apps that you thougt..just search a litle bit further ;);););)

for me after android was first and i own an hd2 and an Lg optimus with android because i was in love with android

but now my result is

1..WP7

2..ANDROID

3..WINMO 6.5??WTF IS THAT??? :D:D:D:D:D:D
[HD2 General] aceo07:
WM6.5

Android

WP7

(Disclaimer: I have used Android for a year.)

I prefer WM6.5 with Sense. WM is a more powerful system for what it allows you to do, provided that someone wrote a program for it. Also much less need for clicking on physical buttons. I like it for what it lets me do. Your preferences may differ.

If I played games, then Android or WP7 may be better.. but I don't play games.
[HD2 General] Beefheart:
It is for me and numerous other people it seems. Dare I say it but perhaps you need to learn how to install and use it properly? Just a suggestion.

My work phone is a HTC Desire. And with Cotulla's stock nand Desire build my HD2 works just as well if not better. So no, I'm no merely suggesting it, I'm telling you that is exactly how it is. And Jaws MIUI which is my everyday build works with no issues and is as smooth as silk.
[HD2 General] will9895:
Winmo 6.5

Tried each in turn, just about to head back to NRG 6.5.5

1. Wm 6.5.5 more clunky, but everything does exactly what you want. want to change a setting and there's an option

2. WP7 so so smooth and simple. But too simple at the end of the day, can't even find a tasks app let alone a widget/ tile

3. Android- I should like android more than I do, not sure why I don't like it more.

My perfect set up is 6.5 with Android on SD. The flash on Android is amazing for Iplayer and the games are good, but I don't make use of that much.

Hope everyone is enjoying the hundreds of ROMs! Looking forward to Meego and more Ubuntu.
[HD2 General] light_n_roses:
I agree !!

1 wm 6.5.X

2 android - WP7
[HD2 General] will9895:
I totally agree that being a total follower of any one thing is nuts, but if we start off looking at something objectively, everyone is going to come to different conclusions. Where it leaves me is I need to see my tasks, calendar, email, and texts. And fast. Nothing compares to CHT2 on Winmo, in my opinion. But if i had time to game more, anything else wins! It all depends what you're looking for. It seems to me the only thing that makes an OS die is a lack of developer support, and that is now undeniable for WM6.5, but if it's got apps for everything I need and I find the interface acceptable, I'm not going to change unless something better comes along. I'm totally open minded, I've tried all ROMs, apart from Meego, and as yet haven't been converted. Glad you've found something you like more, but I personally don't feel in the dark ages in the slightest.
[HD2 General] vince2773:
Totally agree.

I would also like to point out that (maybe) the question from the OP was a little misleading. What I mean is that talking about "plain-vanilla" WM6.5 and WM6.5+Sense+CHT2 are two very different things which (IMHO) are light years apart.

Totally agree once again. I use my Leo mainly for business purposes: email, texting and pretty often I also work on Office. In my spare time it's web surfing and watching movies.

And I don't feel in the dark ages either. But - I guess - if I were 25 years younger and my main concerns were gaming and collecting a ton of iphoneish apps on my device I would be thinking differently.

Net, for now and for me, Winmo+Sense+CHT2 rules.
[HD2 General] hungry81:
WP7 in my opinion is boring and ugly.

1 Android cause its open and current

2 WM cause it was open and customisable and can look beautiful especially with SPB mobile shell. forget sense.

3 ios I dont like apple but at least it does a good job of sucking people into parting with their money. Boring interface and only revolutionary in the fact that they get people spending top dollar on old hardware, and ugly boring OSes.

4 WP7 cause its an even uglier more boring ios clone, that is even furthwer behind in functionality. Why people even defend this crap is beyond me. OOOH its smooth and shiny me want. At least wait until it does the damn basics before going all fanboi over it.
[HD2 General] will9895:
Ah, I'm only 18, maybe I should be more concerned with gaming and iphoneish apps- guess I'm just boring! But i've not got the time I suppose. It seems to me all of these new OSes are following the trend set by the iPhone. I don't mean to say they're copies, just there is so much emphasis on UI and shine. There's nothing wrong with that per se but unfortunately functionality seems to get sacrificed for it sometimes. If only there was an Angry Birds app for WM. I know I'm following the crowd, but I love it.

I read there's a massive WebOS thing happening soon, new tablets and phones. I think I read it's scaleable too, so on a 4.3 inch screen maybe we could get something between a Pre and Tablet experience? I really loved what I saw of it, and maybe someone will be able to develop a port if they're impressed by the new devices. I'd definitely give that a go too.

I'm just looking at a screen stuck between two apps, but all the same really glad to have put 6.5 back on!
[HD2 General] SMS92:
1. Android

2. WM6.5

3. WP7 (I've not tested it yet)

For me the days of using WM6.5 as a primary phone OS are well and truly over - DarkStone1337's "SuperRAM" build of Android put the final nail in my using WM6.5 for anything other than:

1. TomTom (say what you want about TT or other pieces of navigation software, TomTom has consistantly been by my side over various devices since 2006 and has never, ever let me down!)

2. LowCaller (an app that dials local numbers for international calls via my VoipCheap account and takes my minutes, not my money)

I was always a fan of WM but if you're still bigging it up in 2011 you've seriously got to let go and give Android a try. It's like the people who held onto Win9x after XP was released; you're only kidding yourselves!

That's about it. That's why I'll be dual booting WM6.5 and Android, WM6.5 is only ever used when I'm in my car -- having TomTom active, bluetooth active and being able to easily dial contacts and flick between things using Cookie's Home Tab 2.0 makes it ideal for me behind the wheel.

Android is just everything I want from an everyday mobile OS. It's open, free, got masses of development and as I said above; now runs great. I still have issues though: Sleep of death after calls, occasional long wake-up times, occasional robot voice causing me to have to reboot to fix, so it's not *perfect* but it's sure getting there. Outside of my car it's the only OS for me right now.

I don't have much desire to try WP7 out until it's SD bootable perhaps somewhere along the road, although I'm a sucker for doing anything I'm not supposed to with technology so it's only a matter of time before I give it a spin. Looks nice, but I can't for the life of me see it putting Android to shame. Google devs will only learn from WP7 and if there's something WP7 can do that Android can't, expect to see it happen within seconds.

Android, Android, Android.
[HD2 General] xlr8me:
Great selection of replies. Keep them coming but for me its win mobile 6.5 with sense and modification to the max with cookie home tab.

The amount of customization available on win mobile is beyond anything else on the market and this gives one a sense of ownership and satisfaction that neither ios wp7 or android can offer. Mind you I have android on sd card and like that alot..
[HD2 General] hagba:
1-WM 6.5

2-WP7

3-Android

After doing a reconsideration I feel more like above.
[HD2 General] THUDUK:
1) WM6.5.x and Android tie

2) WM6.1

3) WP7

I constantly battle between liking the standard sense setup on my HD2 and running Android, I am currently running a Recovery Nand Jaws MiUI setup and would have to say this is the most stable, speedy pleasing setup I have tried, but I still miss the WM6.5 setup, I have two sides to me, my business head, well running your own business you have to utilise this quite a bit and I find the quick plug your USB in drag a word/excel doc onto your windows mobile phone perfect, quick and hugely reliable, were as the other day I was stuck with just Android and things didn't work anywhere near as well, and the Android office packages are just not up to the standard ones on WM, I use notes heavily and a quick activesync all is sorted, never been entirely happy syncing to the GOOGLE BIG BROTHER servers.

I am a microsoft pc user through and through, never got on with any other, had a mac for a while with an Iphone, hated the whole Apple control everything world, WP7 is basically Captain G vers the Jobby, sadly lacking in anything user controllability.

I guess if all you do is check Crapbook and toodletwat and play fling your bird at a house all the time then Android/Iphone/WP7 are for you, OK Android has huge advantages over everything else that it has some great open source coding going on, but then thanks to XDA and similar WM apps are out there, you just have to look harder.

I would say to Microsoft, sort out your Marketplace, copy Iphone App store if you must, develop WM6.5.x help developers create apps...

Android I would say, why do I not like you as much as I should :confused:
[HD2 General] jaidedfocus:
I hate when I see people say Android has a long way to go or can't compare to other devices running Android naively lol. My

wife has the My Touch and my HD2 runs circles around hers in many areas. Playing Angry Birds she gets lag so bad she stopped playing it while mine flies along (no pun intended). My download speed is way faster than hers in Market and even co workers who have Android including one with the Droid. I can switch ROMs easily while they have to root and risk bricking their phones while with my HD2 I'd have to be stupid to do so lol. I have no issues to speak of on Nand except maybe battery which doesn't affect me too bad.

At this point my HD2 runs a lot smoother than some devices running Android natively.

For me its Android > WP7 > WinMo 6.5. I would go back to WinMo if they breathed life back into it though. More support, more apps, Zune integration, Xbox Live integration, and enhance the UI. I love the work the developers and cooks put into it, but its still lacking.
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
[YOUTUBE]7658_kH5UDI[/YOUTUBE]

Perhaps you could so kindly replicate this comparison with your HD2 and Desire or, more simply, point me to a similar comparison on the Tube?

Because right now everything I've read (which admittedly is not everything posted) from those pro-Android-smoothness-and-speed-on-the-HD2 has lacked sufficiency. Testimony does not constitute proof, and although the video above is hardly scientific, it does a decent job at supporting my point (i.e. WP7 on the HD2 is at least as fast as it is on actual WP7 devices).

I'm not talking about "works" (that's a bit of a weasel word on your part since I am referencing a completely different idea), I'm talking about comparability of speed and smoothness to comparable hardware that runs Android natively.

Though at this point considering your testimony I am forced to neither confirm or deny your claim of comparability until evidence suggesting either outcome (i.e. Android on Androids being just as fast or even slower [acception], OR Android on Android being faster [rejection]) is furnished. So until then I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Just consider me skeptical, especially when the developers that brought Android to the HD2 contend that the HD2 isn't as smooth as native Androids. ;)

Oh, and maybe you could criticize my "improper" Android installation:

1. Task29

2. Install latest MAGLDR

3. Flash Android build over USB via MAGLDR menu

This is the same way I've installed WP7. I haven't flashed my radio for a long time since the radio I use (2.11.something, the first one that came out) produces the best compatibility and battery life for me. In fact the battery life in NANDroid is far beyond what I achieve in WM6.5.x, and likely considerably better than WP7 as well.
[HD2 General] romskii:
WP7, nothing more to say
[HD2 General] xlr8me:
Wow, HD2 beats samsung focus no wonder microsoft and htc refused the upgrade. The beast lives on...such deliciousengineering this phone has...:)
[HD2 General] markmarkr:
WP7 is smooth and fast and runs really well on the device, but I'm pretty surprised that the sort of people who post on XDA could be happy with it as an OS. It's even more restricting than an iPhone combined with having virtually no applications available for it. It doesn't matter how well it runs if the OS itself isn't worth using.

Winmo 6 is in the dark ages, but at least you can change how it works.

I prefer Android by miles to both, and would take an iPhone ahead of either of the Win offerings (which kills me to say, I was really hoping WP7 would be good).
[HD2 General] Fabian1985:
From my experiance:

I should say WP7 'could' be the best of all. I mean It's faster then 6.5 hell even faster than Android. Only looking at loading SIM. Not one seccond for WP7. Interface is also very fast and yet very stable (even now on this stage)

But It's missing to much feateres for now like for me the explorer (can't be using NAND) and social networks like hyves and twitter en for me my data connection isn't working so for now I should say.

1. Android

2. WM 6.5

3. WP 7 (but I'm certain that It will rise to position 1)

Greetz
[HD2 General] maxld:
1. WP7

2. WP7

3. WP7

My next phone will definately be with WP7
[HD2 General] O'Shag:
Ok so...WP7 has just two days ago been unlocked for the HD2. This is a newly created space for WP7.... and all I see is people slamming WP7? WTF??? What this tells me is that you folks think that the chefs just wasted their time. Yes I love Android and I do also have a G2 which is awesome. But I love my HD2 even running Winmo 6.5 and I really believe I'll enjoy WP7 once I give it a try. I'm certainly willing to wait more than the first two days after release to pass judgement.
[HD2 General] karlfergy:
1.android

2.win 6.5

3.win 7

if your were able to customise win 7 and get wifi tethering on it it would be a close call for my number 1 spot.
[HD2 General] saurabh88:
after playing much with android I miss window 6.5.would like to revert back.sorry guys.I will stick to Wm and SD android build
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
Because Windows Phone 7 is a brand-spankin' new operating system, and it's farther along at launch than either iPhone OS OR Android (yes, looking back to the G1) were at their respective beginnings. The only OS that did a better job from basically zero was Palm's WebOS.
[HD2 General] Beretta93:
1. Android

2.WP7

3.WinMo 6.5

The best combination right now is, for me, WP7 in NAND, and RAM Android in SD (for fast boot). Dualboot from MAGLDR, and we've got the best of both world.

WinMo 6.5 was good in its time, but it's oudated now. I'm waiting for SPB Launcher 5.0 for WP7 to get more interesting though...
[HD2 General] mystik610:
I personally think that the core OS of WP7 is far better than Android. It's much smoother than even the best Android phones out there (Android is very 'twitchy')....it feels like a much more polished OS, which is impressive for being a new OS. It shows more potential than Android did at launch IMO.

That being said, the lack of customization in WP7 really hurts it IMO. I understand MS trying to keep WP7 very minimalistic and simple (as opposed to Android, which is confusing to a lot of people), but a little more customization of the home screen would have gone a long way.

As far as handling the core functions I need though, WP7 is a winner hands down. The e-mail application (which I use a lot through my office's exchange server) is better than anyone else's....e-mails are rendered almost as faithfully as they would be on my desktop. The keyboard is better than even Gingerbread's, and is at least as good as the iPhones (no cut and paste is a huge drawback though). Games and Applications are high quality. The OS itself is buttery smooth, and I like the way all the different services are integrated.

My hope is that either the devs or Microsoft make great strides in making this a more customizable OS, but I'm honestly happy with it right now. I owned an iPhone for a while, and as locked down as OSx is, once jailbroken, you could do quite a lot to it.

I personally don't see why anyone would even consider WM6.5 anymore, but to each his own I suppose. Customization is important, but not at the expense of having modern applications and features.

My vote for now though:

Android

WP7

WM6.5
[HD2 General] attaq:
1. WinMo

2. Android

3. WP 7
[HD2 General] Synoptex:
I don't know jet. I was on WinMo 6.5 for around 3 years with my HTC Niki, then I bougth HD2. Approx. 1 week ago I flashed myselve to Android NAND. Just to check, what are you guys screaming about.

You all are talking about Android 100% customization possibilities, but why do you forget or you don't know that WinMo in comparing with Android has much better customisation possibilities? I am not happy with my Android, not happy with an anount of settings on Android, comparing with WinMo.

Just a couple:

WiFi settings in Android - only on or off. But on WinMo you can chose signal strength, a/b/g brandwitch, etc.

GPS - same story.

File explorer... you probably know what' with file explorer in Android.

Ok, with Co0kie's on WinMo Sense I can edit my screen, icons, clock, EVERYTHING as I want. I can make 6x6 icons under the clock with 10X10 screens all around.

What's up with programs running in background? Task Manager? In WinMo multitasking is realised a way better than on an Android. Well, I won't be writing everything, I'm not perfect in english.

You can say that we can get same on an Android. Well, may be you can, but do I really need to install a tonns of software to get all I want?

WinMo is old, It's very old... but for this moment Android sucks a little bit. But because of Android developing so fast i doubt in 1 year Android will let the WinMo such her ****. Right about now -

1). WM 6.5

2). Android / WM7

3). Symbian ))

P.S. Please know, that I'm still on Android right now... still trying to find all that, you are screaming so loud about. But still can't find.