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[Desire Accessories] Cirunz:
I use a class sandisk 6 16GB with a2sd AND d2sd and it works very smooth just like this, though I'm curios about how it'll be on a class 10.

Anyway the manufacturer also matter: sandisk is the only one that never gave me a problem, and is very fast.

Last year I bought an A-Data class 8 on an offer on amazon and it wasn't even half the speed of the class 6 I talked above.

A friend of mine yesterday said that there are very good benchmark on the class 10 ridata microsdhc.
[Desire Accessories] Jeezer:
For a2sd most class 6 cards will be better then class 10 cards.
[Desire Accessories] Sumatie:
I take it you mean class 6 cards are better than class 10??

I did read somewhere the desire only supports up to class 6, and that using a faster card is still limited to class 6 performance? I use 16gb class 10, had a 4gb class 6 before, no speed difference at all, quadrant and antutu results did not change.
[Desire Accessories] cyclothunder:
i have a class4 card, with apps2sd enabled.

Moving to a class6 will i see any performance improvement?
[Desire Accessories] Bahnhof:
Class2 vs 10 comparison

in German, but maybe interesting for some of you (even google translate):

brutzelstube.de posted some comparison of class 2 vs. class 10: search for sd-karte-class-2-oder-class-10-ist-geschwindigkeit-alles
[Desire Accessories] gn_ro:
Maybe will help others

I know it's an old thread, but I'm posting here to eliminate the confusion between SD card classes and GUARANTEED read/write speed.

Almost normal. According to wikipedia url en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital

Class	Minimum performance

Class 2	2 MB/sec

Class 4	4 MB/sec

Class 6	6 MB/sec

Class 10	10 MB/sec
[Desire Accessories] k3lcior:
It's compatible but will work with Class 6 speed.
[Desire Accessories] squarefw:
there is no doute C10 is much better than c2 and C4. But still depends on brand and quality
[Desire Accessories] ApokEncore:
No problem with a 16gb class 10 Kingston here
[Desire Accessories] isboosted:
I'm using a 16GB Class10 Sandisk with no problems at all!
[Desire Accessories] Ape_D:
Class10

I´m on a Transcend 32gb Class10 Micro

having no problems

on my last rom (VJ CM10 JB) a2sd worked fine for me with Y-Y-Y in Terminal Emulator

had no lags when setting developer options right

so final answer to question from my side: YES :D
[Desire Accessories] irbis_triffle:
Original (got with the phone) Samsung 1Gb class 6 died in a four month)))

Now I'm using Sandisk 16Gb class 10 for more than year and have no any problems.
[Desire Accessories] mathorv:
Class is minimum guaranteed certified speed so any class should work (phone HW/SW limits speed). Homever i have 3 cards with class two and about 15 MB RW speeds. There are many benchmarks for testing speeds.

Interesting question is durability. quoting wikipedia:

Write endurance

The write endurance of SLC floating-gate NOR flash is typically equal to or greater than that of NAND flash, while MLC NOR and NAND flash have similar endurance capabilities. Example Endurance cycle ratings listed in datasheets for NAND and NOR flash are provided.

SLC NAND flash is typically rated at about 100k cycles (Samsung OneNAND KFW4G16Q2M)
MLC NAND flash used to be rated at about 5k – 10k cycles (Samsung K9G8G08U0M) but is now typically 1k – 3k cycles
TLC NAND flash is typically rated at about 1k cycles (Samsung 840)
SLC floating-gate NOR flash has typical endurance rating of 100k to 1M cycles (Numonyx M58BW 100k; Spansion S29CD016J 1,000k)
MLC floating-gate NOR flash has typical endurance rating of 100k cycles (Numonyx J3 flash)

However, by applying certain algorithms and design paradigms such as wear leveling and memory over-provisioning, the endurance of a storage system can be tuned to serve specific requirements.[29]
[Desire Accessories] Snusmumr:
I'm using the Transcend 16 Gb class 10 sd card. No problem
[Desire Accessories] WalkieGo:
I prefer SanDisk 64GB Extreme Pro SD Card for my travel camera.

I think it's a good quality-price ratio...
[Desire Accessories] zurpher:
Has anyone figured out what the SD card controller in the Desire is capapble of?

BTW, I own a HTC Desire S but that should not make too much of a difference I presume.
[Desire Accessories] Zseblampas:
I know that this is an old thread, but i use a Class 10 U3 32GB microSD in my Bravo. My ROM is a customised R.S.K. SE Deodex with DK2nand (this means that only Dalvik is on the Nand, every other component is on SD). Formerly i used a 16GB class 10 microSD and i feel some improvement in the loading speed of the apps and the boot time. Btw., i don't think that it can be improved further, the speed difference is not that much between the two cards as the specifications suggests.

So, to answer your question, the built-in card controller may have its maximum somewhere between the Class 10 and U3 specified speeds (10 and 30MB/s).
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
I'm one for technical innovation, don't get me wrong. I'm loving all the new tech that comes out. The atrix 4g basically wet my panties with its specs.

BUT. I hate how youhave top of the line equipment one day, then 6 months later it is completely outclassed.

Imagine if the video game systems did this?

The gamecube/xbox cam out in 2001

The 360 came out in 2005

The wii in 06

The ps2 is STILL kicken, but its original life was from 2000-2006

And the 360 and ps3 are here for a while to come. That much is clear. Why? Because the hardware is still underutilized!

Yeah, there were remakes, but nothing was remade to the poin where you were just "I HAVE TO UPGRADE."

they build stuff that's aheadof their times. Just recently the gamecube was found to have hidden 3d connectors!

Also, when there is a remake of a system, its usually a LOT cheaper, mostl because the cost of the tech drops. Look at the xbox 360 kinect.

Its like thedifferencebetween the galaxy s and nexus s, yet its CHEAPER!

Now look what else samsung is doing

Our Vibrant Brethren got fluffed big time. T-mo is getting a "Vibrant 4g" which is the vibrant with the original galaxy s specs (same thing but with hspa+ and ffc) and....RUNNING TW FROYO!!!!!!

Samsung is the company I wouldn't wanna follow. I've always loved samsungs hardware. Its always top of the line. But I've never had a samsung phone before this one, and I'm pretty sure this is gonna be my last -_- I thought all the stories about samsungs horrible track record regarding updates was a bunch of hoopla becaue my hero was updated regularly. My thought was "lol if htc is pushing these updates out, imagine samsungs speed!"

Boy was I wrong.

If it wasn't for the android dev community, samsungs android phones would've been dead a long time ago. They should realize this.

/endrant
[Epic 4G General] S0ckM0nk3y:
I agree with you 497%

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/114/1143070p1.html

just a little link I found about the ps3 totally unrelated to this forum but hey
[Epic 4G General] running_the_dream:
Intersting observation and comparison. I think the difference is that it takes so much development to introduce a new system that the entire process is excessively costly. From my understanding, each manufacturer (Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft) loses money on each system sold because the costs are so high. They recoup the costs in peripherals and software development (getting game devlopers onboard to make games for their systems). Phone manufacturers make their money on the front end (phone sales) so they have every incentive to continue pushing out as many new phones as possible to cover every segment of the available phone market.

Different ideas at play.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Lol sony really hates having open software. If they REALLY go through the effort of designing a Whole new system JUST to do what htc thought they did with the g2, then the video game world as we know it will clearly be gone.

They sould just pull a nintendo. "Hey, If you manage to hack it, whatevs. But ifyou accidentally update and we brick it, don't get mad boo ;)"
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
But they're catering to the SAME individuals with ever release everyfew months.

Look at the HD2 and HD7 -_- STUFF LIK THAT KILLS ME

REALLY HTC? THE HD2 CAN'T HNDLE WINDOWS PHONE 7 BUT THE SAME HARDWARE RELEASED A YEAR LATER CAN?
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Btw thanks for not flaming even though I was ranting :P
[Epic 4G General] S0ckM0nk3y:
Lol what gets me is that they complain about the ps3 being hacked what about when the playstayion phone comes out on android? Back to Samsung/Sprint for a hot second though. If samsung can release Froyo on all these other carriers worldwide with the TW interface what's truly stopping them from a US release? Is it the fact that if its ready for one carrier and not the others the others ***** threatening to drop samsung support for there customers? That's my opinion on the subject. If and when Froyo is released it will be on all carriers at the same time
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Yeah they're probably gonna go the moto route and put a blocked bootloader and then drop all support if you root it lol.

But yeah bck to sammy/sprint, I though about that. Until the nexus s came out with gingerbread on tmo.

Same hardware, latest software. So its clearly possible to put the latest software in.

What if its google?

I mean...so far only the nexus s has gingerread, but all the phones at ces blow the pants off the NS and NONE of them were running gingerbread (cept the arc I guess).

I just wish that they would embrace the O in AOSP.
[Epic 4G General] S0ckM0nk3y:
Very true it could very well be google to promote their "Flagship Device" oddly enough made by Samsung. Which is only available at Best Buy I believe still and not through T-Moblie Corporate (why I don't know). The only reason I don't think that it is Google is the fact that Google has promoted the "O" in AOSP to the fullest if they didn't we wouldn't be on this site with this discussion. Sammy could have struck a deal worth millions with Google to have their device pushed through so quickly. I still have yet to play with one. From what I have heard it's not very sturdy. That's from friends and acquaintances at Best Buy. They recommend the Vibrant over that thing if T-Mobile is your thing.
[Epic 4G General] running_the_dream:
There is also the issue of phone contracts. So they are not catering to the same exact customers. For example, I am out of the market because I recently purchased the Epic. But, there are other people whose contracts are just ending or will be ending soon. So they constantly need the next new thing out there to entice those folks into paying customers. Video game hardware is different because there are new video games (as opposed to new phones). The games developers make better games over time by learning the hardware. While phone manufacters make better (usually) phones over time.
[Epic 4G General] S0ckM0nk3y:
And some games have better resale value than others. Imagine if Game Stop was called Phone Stop and you could trade your old phone in for half the price you paid for it and buy a new one. I think I just had an epiphany lol. That settles it. Who's in with me to start this company lol. We just need $50,000 to start. I take pay-pal too lol
[Epic 4G General] running_the_dream:
Haha. It's a nice notion. Ebay is the de facto 'phone stop' though. But hey, I have $1 to pitch in for start up money:D
[Epic 4G General] S0ckM0nk3y:
True Ebay is. You have just shattered my dreams. Crushed my soul. Thanks lol
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
It may not compare to console gaming, but look at PC gaming which gets "outdated" faster than phones. Sure <insert game> will run marginally better on a high end gaming PC built today compared to 6 months ago, but the same game will play just fine on that 6 month old system.

I bought this phone in particular to future proof myself. The hardware on this thing should be more than efficient enough to handle anything thrown at it software wise until my contract is up for another upgrade.
[Epic 4G General] S0ckM0nk3y:
Yeah I will give Sammy that. The Hardware is absolutely unbelievable. I just get angry with all the software upgrades going around to other phones and not the Samsung "Flagship" (other than the Nexus S) device. I mean come on the Intercept has 2.2.
[Samsung Mesmerize] sgtsnake:
Anybody have a tutorial on replacing the screen on the Mesmerize? Diagrams or pictures would be helpful. Thanks
[Samsung Mesmerize] phidelt82:
1. Drive to US Cellular store.

2. Hand phone to service tech or sales person.

3. Receive new phone under no questions asked replacement plan.

4. :)

If this isn't an option. I'm not sure about the diagrams. I tried looking them up in the service tech's stuff and he doesn't even have them yet. It's still too new, since none of them are out of warranty yet. It sounds painful, though. Sorry you have had to go through that already.
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
so how exactly did you break it?
[Samsung Mesmerize] sgtsnake:
Mesmerize

Uh, yeah no phone replacement unless you have the family premium plus plan for an extra $40 a month.

Still not sure how it cracked, no visible damage and the outer screen is intact with no scratches at all.

I found a link for anybody that might need it. Check out repair universe dot com.
[Samsung Mesmerize] chidesd:
3 days after a friend got her mesmerize she droped it on the side walk. Her screen is reallly messed up now still runs and it still responsive to touch just has about 30 cracks in it looks like a broken mirror.
[Samsung Mesmerize] akellar:
Couldn't you just call and sign up for the insurance and then file a claim? All they do is call you to make sure the phone works. There's no way for them to know it's already broke.
[Samsung Mesmerize] dcow90:
Yeah they give you 90 days or something..
[Samsung Mesmerize] MyMesmerize:
Yea mine screen crack also. In process on removing the glass from the lcd screen. Was going to put it back together after I get the glass off and see if it will still work. I know it was still working before just couldn't read anything because of all the cracks in the cover glass.
[Samsung Mesmerize] skitzo_inc:
What do you do to break the glass?
[Samsung Mesmerize] MyMesmerize:
Mine broke when I threw it onto my desk. Dumb move by myself but I didn't even put any force behind it really and i've always done it with my other phones. Think it broke because I wasn't paying enough attention and it laided on a glass glass plate. Sound like a explosion when it hit. The back flew off and bat fell out. My bat is now bowed oddly enough. For if you sit it in the phone the bow make it so it will not sit flush. It is not swelling but actually bowed. Because the other side is now equally bowing in as the other side is bowing out.
[Samsung Mesmerize] skitzo_inc:
I'm assuming you don't have the free replacement plan?
[Samsung Mesmerize] MyMesmerize:
Naw don't have the plan(I have no service with it got it just to use as a test bed) just gonna order a replacement screen. Saw one for $100 including shipping. I didn't pay anything for it so paying $100 to fix screen no real big deal.

I wanted to play around with one before I actually gotten service with one. I like it ok. Main thing I wanted to do is try and replace the rear facing cam with a nicer one. If I can get a rear cam in it like the EVO has then I gonna get my lady one and prob get one for myself(the BOGO deal ya know.) Really my only complaint with the phone is its 5mp cam. I have a friend with the EVO and it has a 8mp cam and the pictures just seem so much nicer. That is only thing my wife complained about also. As she wants a phone with a really good cam for she can use it for her photographing hobby.
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
Sounds like someone had a few drinks, lol... Sorry to hear about that
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] fatkitty420:
I'm looking for a port of the Sony Xperia Timescape app/overlay. I think it would be a neat feature to add to our phones...

Can someone confirm if this is possible, or maybe something similar to it?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] fatkitty420:
Bump I guess
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] kurtispurgatory:
i wish other people cared about this. I can't even find a how to on google for anything like this.

Bump.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] hondafreak513:
Check out the AlienMod ROM
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cale42:
So.. in trying to put a new messaging app on I deleted my mms.apk I had a backup of it but when I try to install it it says "There is a problem parsing the package".

Is there a way to fix this without reflashing the whole ROM?

thanks,cale
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Romanbb:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=894794

;)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fcbarca17:
If you have the original ROM that you flashed, unzip it, go in to /system/app and find the mms.apk

once you have that adb push it to the /system/app folder of your phone and youre good to go.

I haven't tried it but maybe using root explorer will work also if you don't have adb set up

hope this helps
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jellette:
Darn it, since this is posted in the wrong section, I got excited thinking there was a new mms.apk you were releasing..................................
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cale42:
Touche.. you are correct.. wrong section. My apologies, was working on the phone at the same time and not paying attention.

Hopefully a mod will shortly move it to the correct section..
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jellette:
I was just messing. Even if you find the correct apk, it probably isnt going to install for you - just push it to system/app and reboot and it will be working again.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cale42:
No worries.. unfortunately I don't really know how to use ADB so just pushing it is a bit tricky for me. Working on it now.. but getting a bit lost.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Romanbb:
Just use the app I linked in the above post. Go to the system section, choose either AOSP or the TW option, click generate zip and flash it with clockwork. Mms recovered
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cale42:
Sorry birgertime.. not ignoring your suggestions.. just didn't really want to learn a new program.. thanks though.

Guess I can put off ADB for another day as Root Explorer worked fine.. once I could move the file instead of copy it I had no problems. New mms that I wanted is installed. Well spent 4 bucks.. Root Explorere seems nice.

Thanks for everyones help.

cale
[Nexus S General] neu242:
I rooted my Nexus S a couple of weeks back and installed Clockworkmod. Not problems there.

But today I rebooted the phone via adb (issuing the "reboot" command), and now the phone is stuck in Clockworkmod recovery. I'm able to connect with adb, and I'm able to go to the stock recovery (home + volume up), but I'm not able to boot into Android at all

What can I do to get my phone to boot again?
[Nexus S General] ryan562:
Did u do a nandroid Backup?
[Nexus S General] irishrally:
Factory wipe and reboot.

Does usb mount work?
[Nexus S General] neu242:
Thanks for the answers!

I found a nandroid backup on these forums, and that solved it.

I think the reason must be that I did a command line reboot while /system was mounted read-write, and that borked the file system somehow. Which is weird, because I'm able to mount /system from CWM.

USB mount works as well.

The nandroid backup was 2.3, though, and the OTA didn't work on it. Will a factory wipe reset my phone to a state where the OTA will work?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teco2010:
Hey Guys, I'm new here and I'm sorry if this has been posted before...

I'm a noob when it comes to installing and flashing roms on phones. I downloaded the leaked version of Froyo to my Epic 4G and it as easy to install, although things are broken such as GPS and my questions are:

When the official OTA update comes out, Will I be able to update from DK28 to the Official version?

Also, How can I flash back to stock 2.1 using a Macbook? I know people use something called Odin for Windows, what about us Mac users?

Appreciated
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leatherneck6017:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=801155 for mac "version" of odin.

If you want the OTA update you'll have to go back to DI18. Most people, including me, will wait for some of the devs on here to cook their ROMS with the new version once released (if ever).
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teco2010:
Thanks man, and If I want to try other roms.. Can I easily install them using Odin in a PC or are there different methods for each rom?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leatherneck6017:
If all the ROM's you want to try are based on the same build (i.e. DK28, DI18, etc) then you won't use Odin or Heimdall. Custom ROM's are flashed from clockworkmod recovery. Be sure to take your time and read up on what you want to do before attempting. I'd suggest reading through the wiki and the other sticky's that will introduce you to the world of customizing your epic.
[G Tablet General] tnanock:
Hello, I am a fairly new g-tablet user. I received one for Christmas and updated it on Dec 25th. I am still experiencing some issues such as if the battery dies then the date/time resets to Dec 2008. I mainly use it for e-reading using the Amazon Kindle app. But would very much like to use for more than that since that would make it a very expensive e-reader!

I came across this forum today when over my business education listserve (I teach computer applications) several ideas were given on how to use an ipad in the classroom. One feature was that you could download an app that would allow you to connect to your laptop/desktop and operate it using the ipad. (So you could walk around the classroom while you taught) So I performed a search to see if the g-tablet had a similar functionality (which I have not found yet).

Then I see all of these different ROMs and updates, etc. that can be used to make the g-tablet more user-friendly. I have a Motorola Droid phone and am familiar with the android market, etc.

What I need to know is what would be recommended steps to get my g-tablet up and running more effectively? Most of the posts that talk about the new ROMs started before the Dec 24th update, so I am not sure what the next step(s) would be.

I appreciate your help.

Kim
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
Probably the 1st thing I'd suggest is to get Google Market (aka "market") onto your Gtab and do at least the main "market fix". That would get you access to a ton of applications.

Once you do that, you can download pocketcloud from the market. That'll allow you to access your PC from the Gtab.

There's also office style suites in the market, such as documents to go, that allow you to view and/or edit MS Word docs, etc. That'd probably be useful.

The "gMarket" that comes with the Gtab takes you to the Handango website. That's NOT the Google market.

Jim
[G Tablet General] tnanock:
Thank you Jim. I found the guide to install a different ROM and followed the directions to use Vegan 5.1. I now have access to the Market and the PocketCloud app you suggested works great!

Thanks so much!
[G Tablet General] bajan5026:
have you tried getting on the IRC channel irc.freenode.net #tegratab live discussion and many of the nicks you see here can be found there as well.
[G Tablet General] blackSwanBB:
I'm sure you already know this, but the sort of app you are looking for is a VNC viewer. I haven't compared the available android vnc apps yet, but a quick search should turn up serveral options quickly.

Here's something a quick google search turned up:

code.google.com/p/android-vnc-viewer/
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
That would've worked for the OP if he had VNC server running. Fyi, one of the nice things about pocketcloud is that it does both Vnc and RDP.

Not pushing pocketcloud... Just an Fyi.

Jim