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[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
No sir, what qualifies you as a paranoid schizo is the 95% of the time when you cannot put together a cogent argument without accusing someone of being a corporate plant, or being in collusion with "the man" in some way. The 5% of the time where you actually discuss phone issues you are perfectly palatable. You might be stupid, but there's nothing wrong with that as far as this forum is concerned.

I am also calling 100% BS on a tmo rep threatening to cancel your service, in a recorded chat no less, if you did not stop talking about how upset you were about your GPS or FroYo. If that quote is real please provide the entire discussion so we can see what precipitated such a response from a tmo employee. Regardless, I really don't care. You escalate to a manager and they take care of their disrespectful employee. You have no case for a lawsuit on those grounds.

Please provide a quote from me alluding to anything regarding threats only being threats if there is a risk of physical altercation. Don't just respond like you normally do with some BS, please cite a source. Just because you change the subject doesn't make you any less wrong.

The word you are looking for is libel. To which I will respond simply: Sue me.

What does this even mean in this context? You need to live inside a box. With 4 padded walls and nice fluorescent lights.
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
Detailed info.
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
Please do not post info that is already available in the OP
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
Interesting info
[Vibrant General] TheArtiszan:
Wow Tj!

Well writ sir. Mirrors most of the responses so far that I have seen on this phone.
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
There is also a seperate set of rules for states.
[Vibrant General] thomaslau:
support~~~ sue moto too for lock bootloader!!!
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
Proof (A Picture is worth a thousand words)

Thank you

There is a specific reason why I posted the links which I did

especially the Laws

There has to be a Reasonable Burden of Proof

without a Shadow of Doubt

There is a preceding issue regarding update reliability, AND false promises

(Behold 1, Behold 2)

There is also a reasonable amount of proof which clearly shows that Samsung has repeatedly promised in print, and via media publications to provide everybody updates to the LATEST Operating System.

In this case Samsung specifically said 2.2.

here in fact is some physical evidence beginning with the launch

In the words of Samsung Via Engadget

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-android-smartphone/

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http://www.examiner.com/gadgets-in-san-francisco/samsung-galaxy-s-froyo-update-won-t-hit-u-s-until-late-november

http://www.phonenews.com/t-mobile-warning-samsung-vibrant-owners-against-manual-update-12948/

http://www.tmonews.com/2010/06/samsung-confirms-android-2-2-update-for-vibrant/

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FROYO FOR THE VIBRANT 100% STOCK AND VERY STABLE BUILD JL4 THIS WAS NOT OFFICIALLY RELEASED FOR SOME WEIRD REASON???

FROYO FOR THE VIBRANT 100% STOCK AND VERY STABLE BUILD JL5 (2ND RELEASE AND RELEASE READY ACCORDING TO MANY) AND... THIS WAS NOT OFFICIALLY RELEASED FOR SOME WEIRD REASON???

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=878970

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=878970

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=878970

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=878970

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[Vibrant General] AustinKnight45:
Holly $hit go to freaking bed ! The night is over you can tell us about how great tmo is tomorrow and how they will never release the same phone to make more money off their customers! But really how can I know you really have this class action lawsuit is there someone I can call or what to help these tmo turds from busting your balls so freakin much.
[Vibrant General] kobesabi:
Start organizing buddies and friends in our local vicinity to BOYCOT on Vibrant 4G day, or any other Galaxy S product.

There are at least 10M, at least 6Millions are unhappy. If we can recruit enough people to do it in major cities, it will make headlines since there has been no protest in the past ever about phone. This can be the first.
[Vibrant General] Kgirl:
Enough already!

This thread has gotten ridiculous!! Not everyone is going to agree with you Micbeast, and just because of that, it doesn't mean they work for T-mobile for crying out loud, you have a problem my friend! If you ever want anyone to take you seriously you had better start calming down, you are half the reason the mud starts slinging in this thread, and in the T mobile forums, YOU start the bs yourself, it's all in the attitude, I would try changing that. I have witnessed this one to many times from you, it's the same story over and over and over..

Personally I don't agree either, and will not be joining your lawsuit, and no I do not work for T-mobile! and yes I do live in Washington!!
[Vibrant General] leetpriest:
You may as well widen your lawsuit to att as well for the captivate. Include att and ill join you.
[Vibrant General] leetpriest:
I don't know micbeast and frankly don't care what he does or says if it doesn't affect me. I do however think that, contrary to posts I've made in the past on captivate forums, this is samsungs fault more than it is tmo's. I'm frankly even a little disappointed with google that the nexus s is a samsung phone.
[Vibrant General] reed.wilemon:
God speed on the lawsuit. I was misled by tmo reps when I bought the phone, too. Since then Samsung promised an update in September, November and December.

If you've complained on a forum and not to tmo/samsung yet then you're wrong. Let them know how many of us are pissed off.
[Vibrant General] soraxd:
wow, i never thought anyone would ever have the gaul to do this, but i completely support this, samsung has always been this way, i remember all the promised updates for my old Omnia HD, samsung never kept any of those promises, please show them that their customers wont take it anymore!
[Vibrant General] acseazzu:
Same thing with all the Behold 2 owners. How do you help the cause?
[Vibrant General] kobesabi:
To all other upset users at Samsung, in addition to lawsuit, we can let them know how pizzed off we are by staging local boycott for upcoming Vibrant 4G.

You can also report your problems at sites like RipOffReport.com, scam.com, ScamBusters.org.

You can also give the bad review that you think the product deserve including customer care on sites like epinion, pricegrabber, amazon, cnet, priceline, etc. where million others check before buying.

Keep doing this until Samsung, Tmobile, ATT work to treat us right about this scandalous FROYOGATE. Else we just keep doing it.
[Vibrant General] mmalott:
This was just put up on Android Police Are Samsung Galaxy S Froyo Updates Being Held B/C of Cost?

Reportedly an insider who has stepped "… across the NDAs [to] explain the issues behind the Android Froyo update to the Samsung Galaxy S phones in the United States," he/she says:

To explain the political situation, first, a primer on how phone firmware upgrades work for carriers. When a carrier decides to sell a phone, a contract is usually written between the phone manufacturer and the carrier. In this contract, the cost of updates (to the carrier) is usually outlined. Updates are usually broken into several types: critical updates, maintenance updates, and feature updates. Critical updates are those that resolve a critical bug in the phone, such as the phone overheating. Maintenance updates involve routine updates to resolve bugs and other issues reported by the carrier. Finally, feature updates add some new feature in software that wasn’t present before. Critical updates are usually free, maintenance updates have some maintenance fee associated with them, and feature updates are usually costly. In the past, most phone updates would mainly consist of critical and maintenance updates. Carriers almost never want to incur the cost of a feature update because it is of little benefit to them, adds little to the device, and involves a lot of testing on the carrier end. Android has changed the playing field, however – since the Android Open Source Project is constantly being updated, and that information being made widely available to the public, there is pressure for the phone to be constantly updated with the latest version of Android. With most manufacturers, such as HTC, Motorola, etc. This is fine and considered a maintenance upgrade. Samsung, however, considers it a feature update, and requires carriers to pay a per device update fee for each incremental Android update.

Now, here’s where the politics come in: most U.S. carriers aren’t very happy with Samsung’s decision to charge for Android updates as feature updates, especially since they are essentially charging for the Android Open Source Project’s efforts, and the effort on Samsung’s end is rather minimal. As a result of perhaps, corporate collusion, all U.S. carriers have decided to refuse to pay for the Android 2.2 update, in hopes that the devaluation of the Galaxy S line will cause Samsung to drop their fees and give the update to the carriers. The situation has panned out differently in other parts of the world, but this is the situation in the United States.

Some of you might have noticed Verion’s Fascinate updated, but without 2.2 : This is a result of a maintenance agreement Samsung must honor combined with Verizon’s unwillingness to pay the update fees. In short, Android 2.2 is on hold for Galaxy S phones until the U.S. carriers and Samsung reach a consensus.

Some might wonder why I didn’t deliver this over a more legitimate news channel – the short answer: I don’t want to lose my job. I do, however, appreciate transparency, which is why I’m here.
[Vibrant General] z0phi3l:
Just might have to go buy two of them just to counter your useless and stupid "boycott"
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
Make informed decisions, look at the facts. I will not argue anymore

Thats what brought me to this point. I called Samsung, and they lied

I called T-Mobile too many times and they constantly lied hung up on me, etc.

What really set me off, was a small set of incidences

1. AFTER receiving my FOURTH device I noticed that this particular device itself

arrived in USED condition, NOT REFURBISHED OR NEW but USED

*The USB door cover was loose, and did not lock

*My Battery cover is loose and wobbly,

(This has never happened before to me with ANY exchange)

When i powered on this phone it booted as normal

when I started using it

it had extreme lag, and was real slow, and unresponsive

I went into the dialer

and my phone "restarted" you know the black screen soft keys lit, for 20 minutes

It literally took me an hour to install all the roms I use on this device

when it usually takes me only 15 minutes!

keep in mind I HAVE to install custom ROMS on this phone

JUST to be able to use it.

BTW I'm using Nero V4 / Voodoo With SBG 2.3 "H" signal Flying Animations

Launcher Pro Plus Etc.

I've had STOCK FROYO JL5 on my phone without Voodoo!

I had it on my phone a week before I installed Nero 3 based on that kernel

WHEN I was using JL5 stock

it was BUG free, I did not get any Force Closes

Restarts, etc.

I was able to use EVERY feature flawlessly

The only exception is that the GPS sucked

As it does on most Galaxies

Mine took a while to lock and it picked me up as being in a location

3 blocks away

LOL

and to XDA user Katy on ths thread

no not everyone who disagrees with me is a T-Mo spy

but when you attack me for my decision

you start to sound like one

keep in mind I only alluded to the possibility that they may be spies

I can understand how you easily misinterpret this Katy

Because these days people are so spoiled by Technology etc.

That some people don't READ, they skim through the articles

It would help that you take some time out of your day,

to READ this whole thread, not skim through it.

Now keep in mind that I posted pictures, and links to support my statements

I will not argue about this anymore

You can go look at them yourself, they are on page 39 I believe

The proof is in those pictures, and links

If you think I am blowing steam lets see what you think AFTER you look at that

and I agree with everyone who has said that I shouldn't argue with anyone

Your right

That is why I posted this links and pics

I would like to thank everyone who has helped me stay focused
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
This suit includes ALL Galaxy S Owners and T-Mobile customers

If you own a vibrant feel free to send me a detailed greivance

SinistaBeatz@GMail.com
[Vibrant General] presence06:
What a crock of ****. Samsung charges for updates so if a carrier wont pay it, they don't have to supply.it? I kind of find it hard to believe that Motorola and HTC don't do the same?
[Vibrant General] Indigo779:
Do it, please. Then tell us all about it.
[Vibrant General] karate134:
I wish this was going on with Sprint and Samsung
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
http://www.wirelessandmobilenews.com/2011/01/samsung-galaxy-s-news-update-samsung-captivate-turns-off-shuts-down-if-made-before-1106.html

Samsung Galaxy S Update Turn Off: Samsung Captivate Turns Off, Shuts Down in Standby if Made Before 11/06/10

Posted by Contributor Wireless and Mobile News on Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 10:25 AM
[Vibrant General] macruadhi:
Since I rely on myself for updates, isn't expecting t-mobile/samsung to provide updates the same as expecting Ford to replace your engine every time they come out with a newer, more powerful model each time they come out? I mean you don't get a new copy of windows after each new release. Just a thought, no flaming please.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
My Phone (The Galaxy Song) By Sinista (MicBeast)

I just came out with a song for this situation

My Phone

by Sinista

http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_6815946
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
Well it is not normal business practice for Ford to update their older lineup with newer equipment. Same with Microsoft. Whereas with Android, our equipment IS designed to be updated to the latest/greatest, hardware permitting. So what's got people all bent out of shape is that not only are our devices designed to be upgraded, Samsung has said that they WILL be upgraded.

Supposedly they said by the end of 2010 we'd have it. I think Samsung could have said our phones would blow us and talk dirty in 6 languages, but if it's not in our contract I'm not thinking we have any legal leg to stand on when our phones refuse felatio.
[Vibrant General] TheMan42:
Wow, I lost brain cells reading this. Learn the English language, then learn to read your contract - dolt.
[Vibrant General] armoredmbz:
Beep

All your Android are belong to Samsung.
[Vibrant General] kobesabi:
Do you want Froyo released or not?

Do you want Samsung stick to OpenAlliance and release their modified code to open source community so XDA can make it better?

And if you read today leaked news, they been holding it because they want to charge US carriers for it. Why not get rid of that cost where users can go download it to their phone (i.e. on their site somewhere with MD5 or SHA1 hash).
[Vibrant General] defconoi:
This Is why we need to support xda and developers coding aosp from source for the vibrant
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
It would be pretty stupid if someone actually DIDN'T want FroYo, so I can't discern the intended tone of your question...

Yes FroYo being released is good for absolutely everyone. If you will take rumors as gospel as most people do around here, then you believe that Samsung is looking to gouge the US Carriers, in order bring in more money. I hope it is not true, but it wouldn't surprise me at all, especially given their track record.

I do not know all the ins & outs of the Open Handset Alliance, or legally what all that entails, but I'm sure a behemoth like Samsung does. And I'm fairly sure they wouldn't do something without reasonably believing they could get away with it. They pay their team of lawyers more than you and I will make in a lifetime.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
My interview with Wireless and Mobile News dot com

http://www.wirelessandmobilenews.co...ion-lawsuit-for-samsung-vibrant-and-more.html
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
History

For anyone that opposes me in doing this

Keep in mind that you are largely outnumbered

and the actions I have taken have started a huge revolution in this industry

I never expected it to reach this point

But at the same time I'm glad it has...

It's about time

We need to stand up against these businesses

Thanks for the support
[Vibrant General] darkfennec:
@Mic

I hope you see this before a mod gets to it.

It was never your cause or case I was against. It was just your attitude and how quick to anger you can get. But I have gotten past that, and I sent you a PM about it. This is the internet and it was all a game to me, see how far I can tick you off, but then I started feeling bad about it all. And I hope you the best in this. Gratz on the interview. Was hoping to hear more from you in the article, but you can't control what they write.

Again gratz on your success so far and best wishes for comes next in this for and hopefully us in the long run.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
Thanks for letting me know

Thanks for the support darkfennec
[Vibrant General] NYHoustonman:
As an owner of a Fascinate, I hope something good comes of this :). I'm not sure how successful the suit itself will be as, but the fact that it's even being filed should at least get Samsung's attention. I love the phone, but if Froyo doesn't come soon this'll be my last from them.

Just wanted to add my support :).
[Vibrant General] eunkipark92:
Count me in...freaking vibrant 4g? Without releasing froyo? Haill nahh

I guess we are never going to see gingerbread..sigh..
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
Thank you for the support

In fact I would love to thank everyone for the continued support.
[Vibrant General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Can we expand this class action to include Captivate users as well?
[Vibrant General] ronniemack:
Let me know what I can do to help tired of Samsung coming out with products and not doing any updates. Have the same problem with a LED TV I got from Samsung and they never do any updates for it. Very tired of them and have had several problems with the Vibrant
[Vibrant General] eltormo:
First of all my native language is not English,and second my contract is in spanish my native language.

And in no part it say anything about been cap after 5GB,i know how to read my contract,it is people like you who either defend that sh** or give up without even fighting.

Hell i prefer to terminate the contract on my line,than to keep up with that false,after all is only $200 and i can sell my Vibrant for that already root and modded.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Lolwut?

Yell us how this even seems logical.

An update to our phone should not be ties or even related to the release of another product...
[Vibrant General] NoDataFound:
What a waste of time and money.
[Vibrant General] eltormo:
Why because he decide to fight.?

There are many cases of individual persons,and small companies beating big ones,hell Immersion,not only sued Microsoft and Sony,but they also won,and beating Microsoft is not an easy thing to do.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
Someone needs to stand up

WASTE?!

Well lets see

I took action because I HAD a Behold 1 (Never Updated)

I was going to buy a Behold 2 (Cheaply built, Never Updated)

When I bought the Vibrant I took this into consideration

The selling point to me was when they ACTUALLY promised FROYO

NOT ONLY in MARCH

when they announced that this phone would arrive

But on Jun 29th! (less than a month prior to launch)

THEN they promised it would arrive two weeks after release

THEN September

THEN November

THEN December

NOW

It appears by every indication That they are withholding this update

After dealing with their lies for months. I have decided to take action

It was NOT ONLY the announcement of the Vibrant 4G that led me to doing this

BUT THE FACT

That I have used (2) fully functional builds of Android FROYO %100 STOCK

JL4 then JL 5

and both of those were relatively bug free

I did not have crashes FC's or nothing

(JI6 is still functionally inoperable for most people)

THEN they release the Nexus S (A Galaxy Variant) with Gingerbread

NOT EVERYONE is going to ROOT their phone

Being new to Android at that time; I was skeptical about doing it...

I hope you understand this

I do business with this phone, and ANY delay without my phone can have a serious affect on my finances.

Not everyone is like you

NO ONE WAS DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS

SO I TOOK ACTION

What if we continue to let corporations do this to us?

Then things can only get worse

as they feel more, and more invincible

Confident that they can continue to screw us over

What then

Then nothing we buy will be reliable

Look at the US Car companies

They were unreliable

So people starting buying Imports

And some of those companies actually did go bankrupt

A Couple shut down.

Well in this case

I'm standing up against Samsung

for the people

ANY and ALL Galaxy S Users PLEASE join in

I am working to include ALL Galaxy S Users in this suit!

I am amazed at the chain reaction this suit has caused

A lot of things are being revealed about Samsung because of this situation

A lot of concealed truth's

A spotlight has been cast on the Telecom industry

The reaction to my action has exceeded my expectations, and with every new development

and every e mail I receive in support of my cause, I am even more motivated to do whats right

I have God, and the people on my side
[Vibrant General] leetpriest:
@TJ

Ford fixes a car if it is faulty at manufacturer cost. If the fix takes longer than a few hours, they provide a rental until the work is done. 8 months now and where is the GPS fix? Where is the standby death fix? I've returned 6 warranty replacement captivates because they have yet to send me a functional phone.

We're not talking about some crappy $20 flip phone here. This is a $500 nightmare for almost every owner of the galaxy s line. In the long run, the lawsuit if won won't fix the problem or give us new phones, but it will send the message to carriers that it is unacceptable to feature a phone that doesn't function as advertised and has no support. And to protect their multi-billion dollar industry, the carriers will respond in kind. Hopefully it will push samsung out of the smarphone business altogether.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
Well said...Thank you very much for your support