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[Gen8 Android Development] fzelle:
We had this discussion before.

If he really changes the browser by removing it, there is a good chance that some sw doesn't work after that.

And there are probably enough people out there that think that another browser is better.

And it takes 1 minute for you to install your browser.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Exactly;)

We even created a thread about this with a poll, and i think dolphin did win, but only with 40% so 60 % dont want the browser, so we dont do it because the most of the people dont want it..

And it isnt much work to install it, like fzelle said:);)
[Gen8 Android Development] waterpolo:
Agree, the same for file browser and email.

I recommend ES file explorer and K9 mail.
[Gen8 Android Development] fzelle:
And i like Kaitenmail, handsdown the best.
[Gen8 Android Development] ringogelso:
I managed to install the update "b3". ok it works very well. no problem with the browser. thanks guys
[Gen8 Android Development] waterpolo:
Kaiten mail looks nice but isn't free.

I have no problems with paid apps :)
[Gen8 Android Development] jakkrith:
Report: Found new problem about wifi in UrukDroid 1.5 Beta 3.

1. Could not add new wifi by manual in wifi setting. (After add new wifi info it not save)

2. Could not connect know wifi in wifi setting. (Show in range but could not connect)

I have fixed these problem by use Wifi Manager app.
[Gen8 Android Development] steven20052009:
Upgraded to UD 1.5B3. It seem be fine. But I don' t know why when I turn the screen off the stand by light still blinking. Is that the reason make the battery drain faster than in UD 1.0?

Does anyone has the same prob. ?
[Gen8 Android Development] jakkrith:
No this issue on my device. But I notice battery drain faster than in UD 1.0 like you said.
[Gen8 Android Development] alex2308:
It may be due to the differnt CPU governor (?)
[Gen8 Android Development] steven20052009:
Thank you... let me check it out. You might be right. Because, I don' t use cpu governor in Urukconfig. Im using cpu tuner right now. And I set diffirent governor when the tablet go in sleep mode (screen off)
[Gen8 Android Development] LeoNg628:
for file manager:

I recommend using "Astro file manager" or "file expert (文件大師)",

for email:

I think the Android stock one (Email v2.3.6) is very good, because it support Hotmail ActiveSync but K9 doesn't

link here for stock email apk:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=775007
[Gen8 Android Development] waterpolo:
can you have multiple accounts with stock email?

Astro file manager is also good, but has ads with free. ES file explorer has an option for root permission.
[Gen8 Android Development] jakkrith:
I have access multiple email account by using "Mail'd" - Notion Ink Adam apps for Galaxy Tab but work fine on Archos 101

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=937095

"File Expert" is my favorite apps too. :D
[Gen8 Android Development] satoto01:
I get verifying signature failed (:
[Gen8 Android Development] jakkrith:
If you mean "Mail'd" - Notion Ink Adam apps

Try this EMail.apk

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10693080/Email.apk

Just install .apk file

Dear $aur0n I'm Sorry, I know this thread for UrukDroid (Android) - developers ONLY. If my post illegal please delete.
[Gen8 Android Development] LeoNg628:
Yes, I have set 3 hotmail exchange account + 1 yahoo imap account with this stock email.
[Gen8 Android Development] ho0o0o11111:
I am facing big problem in 1,5b2.

When I plug my External HDD (FAT) into USB port, the power light of external HDD is on, but it is not detected and mounted.

Both my Card reader and external HDD doesn't work.

I could have my drive mounted without problem in 1.0.

Any idea?

Thanks.
[Gen8 Android Development] jakkrith:
I had disabled CPU Governor in UrukConfig and after that battery drain seem OK.
[Gen8 Android Development] MaxKnall:
Seems that your USB port died. That is a known issue on A101 :(
[Gen8 Android Development] stephen44:
@ $aur0n :)

Finally loaded 1.53 ... very nice so far

dvb is not working - (works fine in 1.0) when turn on from urukconfig get

error running command

ls: cannot access /dev/dvb0*: no such file or directory
[Gen8 Android Development] ho0o0o11111:
OMG....:eek:

My first 101 had screen problem (I couldn't drag stuff across the middle of screen). The speaker of this replaced one was out of order in 2 months after purchase, and this time the USB... (Totally off topic) :o
[Gen8 Android Development] diabel44:
Installed 1.5b3 straight from fresh 1.0 installation on Archos 70s (internal storage). So far everything works well, system is smooth and stable. WiFi Tethering via LG GT540 (adhoc connection) works. Cannot run default browser, always get force close but don't care. I prefer Opera.
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
Send some dmesg output after manually enabling dvb service - although I don't promise anything in 1.5 :)
[Gen8 Android Development] captin:
Just had mine changed because of the same problem. Lots of 101's are having the same problems too.
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
Forgot to mention... if you wan't to use default browser move file Brower.apk from /system/app.old/ to /system/app/. It's kind of my "fault" I've put it there - since I dont use it at all - I'll fix it in next release but I really strongly suggest to use Opera (just like diabel does).
[Gen8 Android Development] lordofazeroth:
So I am posting here:

I have WLAN problems: connects and disconnects all the time.

I am using UD 1.5beta2 upgraded from UD 1.0 directely without 1.1.

Furthermore this happenes with and without using the WiFi Manager that came with UD1.0.

WLAN is WPA2 encrypted.
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
I don't really see how it can be connected to Uruk (or WiFi manager) - you can try to use different wifi firmware (it sometimes helps - but that's it).
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
1.5RC1

Hi,

I want to release 1.5 quite soon since I would like to RMA my Archos (faulty USB) - and this will make my device unavailable for month or longer :(

It's 1.5RC1 installation (not upgrade/update) file (for those with 1.5B3 - it brings no important changes).

Comparing to 1.5B3

- fixed (moved back to /system/app) stock browser

- restored back wpa service (since some WPA/WAP2 are impossible to register with modified wap_supplicant)

Comparing to 1.0 EasyInstall

- all 1.1/1.5 changes

- wpa service is "off" by default

- cifs service is "on" by default

- added Opera browser (stock browser is still there), File Expert instead of stock File and Uruk Droid 1.0 File Manager, QuickPick as a best GFX/gallery for Android. Updated Terminal Emulator, WiFi Manager

UrukDroid_1.5-Install.rar (md5sum: f782e19c95d1df8b8ec825b67a987436) 147MiB

ps. Solune - could you add back wpa service?
[Gen8 Android Development] ryadztu:
Wifi still not working with 1.5RC1 on A43...
[Gen8 Android Development] alex2308:
Oh that hurts to hear :( Will you continue the UD project during this time? E.g. clean up Wiki / Files / Documentation?
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
My USB is dead since may - so it's few months already, but it's time to fix it and there is finally an app that I would like to use (till now I had no much use for USB Host) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1202082.

Anyway I'll probably will answer on questions etc.
[Gen8 Android Development] coen22:
Can you maybe add launcherpro and themechooser? Please
[Gen8 Android Development] fzelle:
Why?

It's the same as with the browser, if YOU need/want another one, install it.

I know quite alot of people that dislike the launcherpro, so why should it come preinstalled?
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Exactly!:)

We have had the same with Chainfire.. It isnt much work to install an app:rolleyes:

And it is hard (for a newbie) to reinstall system apps;)
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
I agree with chainfire/LauncherPro "politics" (also I think Launcher pro is a bit over advertised)...

but on Uruk those "new" application are not installed as system ones (/system/app) - I hate all those facebook and other sh... that are installed by default on phones (and you have to root them to have even slight chance to remove this stuff) - that's why all additional apps on UrukDroid are installed as every normal apps (/data/app/).

So user is free to remove/uninstall all those application whenever wants..

anyway - how installation tests are going on ? :)

ps. I've found that after fresh install 1.5 camera may not work for the first time - just reboot and it's ok.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Should i install? Im on beta2 and im happy with it:) but i do see any big improvements at beta3/RC.. should i?:);)
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
It won't change much for you - but since it's "development" thread - I count on some testing. So those who were holding back, and/or wanted do a fresh start... :) this install is for you...
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Okey i think i`ll do it now:)

Will report back to you:);)
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Okey i installed RC1 and its great:)

I just have had one problem:

I had copied my /data partition during install, but all my apps were gone:(

But no problem, i backuped everything..:)

The camera bug is "true" first time it doesnt work. but after a reboot it worked:)

Do i install the market with the method from Urukdroid 1.0 ? (File copied to Urukupdate..:))

Greets,

Lenn
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
I'll take a look at this..

You could, but I guess it's better to do it with arctool - they have newer market, I had not time to do it (and since it's already done - I would be waist of time).
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
With your method you just can upgrade via the new market apk:)

So i`ll do it over this way:);)
[Gen8 Android Development] rbar3155:
In general v1.5 RC1 is much more faster than the previous releases.

The only problem I have found is the reframe.sh script which keeps the device in a bootloop. I ha ve to reflash again twice.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
@sauron:

The install with the update function doesnt worked:(

now i try it with arctools.. will report back
[Gen8 Android Development] ryadztu:
anyone?

.
[Gen8 Android Development] jknut:
I installed 1.5 "Easy Install" over my previous Uruk 1.1 by flashing and using the reinstall to internal storage option. I had to reinstall Market -- I used Arctools. All my other applications and settings carried through okay. Thanks for the update.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
The reinstallation of the Market via arctools was okey:);)

I had frce closes with Google+ and Youtube after the installation of the Market, i had to reinstall this apps, but now they work:)
[Gen8 Android Development] alex2308:
1.5RC2 very fine so far for me. Slightly higher battery usage, but can't tell why. Haven't tried much yet, but seems very stable and fast! Excellent work $auron!
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
It's not enough information to write anything... how it is not working? any dmesg/logcat output?
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
Does update did not start or there were errors? (/var/lib/urukdroid/fail.log)
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Okey i checked it and it was a wrong file signature... i downloaded the file from the link installation wiki article on code page..;)
[Gen8 Android Development] bach0405:
Hi $aur0n,

First of all, thanks for your great job.

I just report from another forum (archolounge) that a guy had problem to restore his apps using titanium backup in one lot, for 1.5b3 and 1.5rc1.

This backup option was OK with 1.0 version. I don't know if someone experienced the same problem.
[Gen8 Android Development] alex2308:
I had no problem with 1.5RC2 and free Titanium Backup
[Gen8 Android Development] fzelle:
Had something like that on my MS sometime ago.

The solution was to update to the busybox that TB was suggesting.
[Gen8 Android Development] jknut:
I had this problem one time and had to delete

/mnt/secure/asec/smdl2tmp1.asec​

then all the apps restored okay.

Some people also say to delete .android_secure folder on SD Card
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
I can only suggest to user backup/restore of UrukDroid rescue menu (but that's entire partition), and It's possible that some of Uruk installed shell binaries does not work for TB (they are before busybox ones on path) - but that's not a "bug" - simply TB don't handle them right.
[Gen8 Android Development] LeoNg628:
Arctools is very nice apps only made for Archos, I've use it since I brought my Archos 70IT;)
[Gen8 Android Development] LeoNg628:
Hi bros, where can you find 1.5RC2?:confused:
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
It's a version of course - go to homepage and you can see that current stable release is 0.7.3, previous stable was 0.6.10 - 0.5 is really old...
[Gen8 Android Development] Tsusai:
Ah, thank you for the clarification. I was scratching my head going "Where is there 0.5 and 0.6 in the Archos family"
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
Hi,

I don't think that starting is to slow (service status checking) - it's ok. But GUI needs to be "cleaner". I would love to put this apk in 0.5 release - witch could be quite soon.

Could you try to make it "one screen application" - everything what's required on first screen. List of all services with it's current status - it could be a scrollable list (like in app list). I know it can be hard - so one step at the time ;) - something like this would be great:

Ignore (for now ;) ) buttons on top/bottom and do the list of all services. On left side of service name green/black marker showing current status of service, beside it blue/black marker showing boot time status. When you push service, it will unfold and show short description and two buttons allowing to turn it on/off, and change it's boot status on/off. If unfolding is too complicated - it can be unfolded all the time. Later you could add "setup/config" button for every service and on the top some more switches.

This is my idea how it may look like - you can do whatever you want and are able to. I'm already great full that someone is willing to do the job I simply can't (and not especially want to) do :)
[Gen8 Android Development] solune:
@$hauron

Héhé nice to see we have almost same idee about application look. I've already started to make a table with one line per service, and state startup, running or not, and buttons to enable/disable startup and run :)

When this version will working fine, I then look at the fold/unfold function, where I'll put configuration entry (swap memory value and so on).

If you can give me scripts working for UIstatus and force for the 3 services (dvb, iptable, ntfs) to add them in the program ?

I'm really happy to learn android programmation and in the same time make a program who can be useful for someone :) and to help you in your really great archos rom :)
[Gen8 Android Development] solune:
Update !

Here is UrukConfig v0.3.

Now enable/disable at startup each service is possible, and start/stop running service work for all services except ipTables and Ntfs, all in the same first intent.

Launching take some times, in Todo list => add Splash screen for loading.

A bug : orientation change of the Archos make all the start (take almost same time as loading)... Need to find how to disable that...

Incoming : I'll looking at fold/unfold to add textbox to change parameters of some service (swap, etc...).
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
Muuuuch better!!! :)

It should be "enabled/disabled" not "enable/disable". I'll update short info for every service - so you can write it below it's name and we are good to go alpha :D

ps. Could you add some version information - so while updating/installing it will write it's current number.

Edit: There is new service, to control "cpu governor" during boot process - since android preferences overwrites boot time changes. So it's called "cpugovernor" - I'll put updated services to download today...
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
I've updated update file, except previous changes it also has services modification, usbnet modules, dvb changes (yesterday I'v made some streaming server on Uruk - it was watchable - even locally), governor module, mediaupdater fixes...). Kernel and zImage are also updated - but flashing is not necessary.

Edit: I had dropbox synchronization disabled - files were updated on server on 15:24 (time of writing this update)
[Gen8 Android Development] cheefy:
UrukSafe

Now i'm quite proud to present you the first release of the UrukSafe-Backup-script.

It was quite hard because the busybox-tools ingore some regex stuff i need to classify the user input. And hassling around with the on-screen-keyboard to trial&error all the regex things needed more time than i thought.

But it's finished:

I have tested it but i'm not sure if it's working for everyone:

You have call it from Terminal like this:

$ $su
#sh uruksafe.sh

You need to be su and you have to call it via sh.

The following command line options are available:

Order does not matter,defaults are marked red:

--appdata - Just backup the /data/data directory

--data - Just backup the /data directory

--rootfs - Just backup the / directory except data,mnt,sdcard,cache,tmp

--all - Do all of the three above in a row. This is default

You are free to combine the above options in any combination and order.

--newer DATE - Just dump files that have been modified after DATE

Possible formats for DATE:

@176546578 for epochal seconds since 1970-01-01 00:00

7d for changes during the last x days

48h for changes during the last xx hours​

Default: @0 = 01.01.1970 00:00​

--target DIR - Save the backup the file to DIR. If DIR does not exist it will be created.

Default: /mnt/storage/sdcard which should be the big spare media partition of your sdcard.​

I would love to get some feedback :D

EDIT: updated the attached file to a working one ;)

P.S: According the Gapps problems: how about just copying the /data/app directory, and from the /data/data everything except all the google dirs?

Now everybody is free to use your Gapps or something else and it should work. But you would have your data from all the other apps back..View attachment 497587
[Gen8 Android Development] solune:
Hello,

@$hauron : I have a little problem with /system/etc/uruk.d/ntfs :

I have all the time "sh: 1: unknown operand"

@cheefy : I've try the script, but return :

# sh /tmp/uruksafe.sh
sh /tmp/uruksafe.sh
/tmp/uruksafe.sh: line 112: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"'
/tmp/uruksafe.sh: line 119: syntax error: unexpected end of file

anyway if I put options or not.
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
You've probably corrupted /etc/uruk.conf/ntfs

edit: I forgot to mention - I've made (you should have it already) short descriptions for every service. It's in hashed lines of every /etc/uruk.d/ file.

edit2: I forgot to mention - you can show users, version of Uruk that is currently running by reading /etc/urukdroid-version

ps. I've just made start for really fancy update procedure - all you have to do is put data to /data/urukdroid-update/. It can flash firmware (without restart), process data etc. I Just don't know only, yet, how to allow people drop data somewhere on /sdcard/ path... for easiness...
[Gen8 Android Development] cjdalessio:
I'm curious how this will work without a restart - some of the problems I've seen from folks updating so far appear to be likely caused by not completely wiping dalvik-cache and cache. Or is the intent to simply allow the update, which will end by restarting?

In a slightly different direction, are you even remotely at a point of understanding where you could start compiling a gingerbread build? The full Gingerbread keyboard (not available when you install GBkb on FroYo) treatment with cursor controls would be really nice to have on a tablet. Couple features from CyanogenMod I'd like too as long as I'm making excessive noise here without a contribution :D (quiet hours setting, not to mention side-swipe to clear a single notification...)

C
[Gen8 Android Development] snickle:
Loaded the latest root FS and went ahead and flashed the kernel. Since rebooting a process /bin/auid has held the cpu pegged at 99%% for an hour. The archos is still responsive, but sluggish. Anyone have an id whats up with the process? I assume it is the andriod UI daemon.

I'll let it run a while longer and see what I can figure out.
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
Kill it ;) I'll make some checks to prevent this behavior - how do you like new boot screen/messages?
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
Restart of course will be necessary - but you won't have to use boot menu.

Probably yes, but it's not time for this kind of modification - and I don't see much reason for putting much of GB now. I don't know what are the difference in keyboard - i used one from market - it works but GB has no arrows, and I use them in shell quite a lot ;) Cyanogen mod - we already have some features from it. But I guess there should be time for playing with my tablet soon - not just modding it ;) There are Archos engs. who get payed for this kind of work - they should give GingerBread :D

And for real - we can get to subject after Uruk 1 - of course if there are some nice features of cynaogen - let us know.
[Gen8 Android Development] snickle:
I like the boot screen messages. I know it is doing something.

What is /bin/auid?
[Gen8 Android Development] chrulri:
cjdalessio, why not just start porting cyanogenmod to this tablet (it's a bunch of config files) so you don't have to mess with the basic system and can go straight forward to tune/modify it
[Gen8 Android Development] solune:
Hello,

A little update of UrukConfig, v0.4.

I've just added CpuGovernor, corrected enable=> enabled, and add a icon to the apk :D

I've learn things about ListView, Tab Layout, Splash Screen, Thread and now I've a headache :D no more seriously I must rewrite a big part of the application so I can implement theses things.

I'll do another thread to check services states (that's what take too much time at startup), so application will start and when this thread is finish, information will be updated without hang (for now, I have "application don't respond" quite often).

I'll also add Tab Layout to add others features to app : maybe the backup script, and configuration for somes services, and maybe update functions ?

And I'll present services as listview, best way to do I think. I'll use also all news things you add $hauron : uruk version, service descriptions, etc...

All of this mean I'll not be able to give you new update before some times...
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
Really great job - I already like it :D

I don't know why services check goes so slow - from terminal (on Archos of course) it takes less then second to check them all

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So perhaps i can create one meta script for you that will return status for all services. Or if you want - we can use android properties - you can call script that will quickly update properties, and you will read them.

Nice icon btw. :)
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
And one future request :) - if you could wait until service starting/stopping is done - with status change in your app.

For another tabs - there is already request to disable "mediascanner" - I can disable it, but it would be good to be able activate it somehow - of course it can be another service but...