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[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
I myself have a VERY snappy ROM NERO V3 with Slight Better Gingerbread 2.2

but the road to it was rough and painful. My first device received a JI6 update which bricked it Immediately

I was PROMISED a device in a few days

6 DAYS later which is a few times two

I was THEN told that my device was on Backorder

The rep told me that they KNEW THIS FOR A WEEK!

Well after going on vacation for two weeks

and having my mother in law wait for the package

it finally arrived a day before I came back...LOL

I opened my package, put my SIM and Memory cards in

My phone powered up nicely and functioned half heartedly

DUE to JI6.

That day I was prompted to install an update

I was excited, I thought it was FROYO

The update reverted my phone back to stock

Anyone remember that update?

3 days later I receive the same prompt

My phone was plugged in and charging with 80% battery

I proceeded to update the device properly

after it rebooted my phone was left in a permanent BLACK Samsung Screen

I am new to Android; But not programming

So I had my device replaced again

After receiving the new device quickly (finally)

I proceeded to boot it up

Slow as usual, went here, Installed a new ROM (Nero 3)

and everything (except gps) worked fine

But my phone felt worse, wobbly volume, and power buttons

scratches on the bezel, etc.

One day I went to pick it up and the screen was BLACK

It wouldn't power on

I charged the battery everything, Still no power

And it was never exposed to water, abused or dropped

I am using a Naztech pouch

NOW I am on my fourth device

the GPS still does not work, and T-Mobile has really never helped me

BTW they even called the Police for me saying F T Mobile and Their store

then I calmly left

So yeah, Lets see does that give you enough clarity

I use my device all the time

because I am in the music business

I stay very busy, I type the way I do and use the breaks the way I do to Induce clarity, in my posts

you must first understand the problem before you find a solution

BTW I don't know why certain people are getting mad

I am doing this for selfless reasons

This is a CLASS ACTION suit

not a civil one

So why are people getting mad

read my opening post; read the law; That is the actual LAW, I pored through it studied it disseminated it

broke it down in as many ways that it just wanders in my mind.

I feel let down, I paid my money only to receive 4 replacements in 5 months...That is ridiculous

why are people getting mad, what have I done wrong?
[Vibrant General] TheArtiszan:
What is your actual basis though for this? Gross negligence or what? From what I see there is no case. I ran the official JI6 and never had a problem. save for a minor hicup on gps here and there but nothing major.

Oh and forgot to add, if this is a actual case or what have you this would be the same for all manufacturers. Just because you don't get a update means we can sue all manufacturers of all phones that don't have updates.

I think the only thing that would come from this is that new phones will have a disclaimer saying "This phone may or may not get future updates"

That is about it.

Plus this is not also dev related and should be moved to Q&A forums please admins.
[Vibrant General] djquick:
LMAO, sorry, I had to:p
[Vibrant General] elgo:
Great logic/reasoning. Ever heard of a period? (this thing: ".") It is used to separate sentences.

"The gps issue is that it works horrible indoors if you walk outside and it works whether it works terribly or only once then it works and your claim is void"

Once again, great logic and reasoning skills on display here. Of course we shouldn't expect an advertised function to work more than once. How would you feel if you were only able to make one phone call with your Vibrant? Better make sure it's an important call, that's for sure!
[Vibrant General] kboater:
I realize that galaxy s phones are not "google experience" phones. what i obviously saying is that google probably does not want this many dissatisfied android users, so maybe they will put a little pressure on samsung
[Vibrant General] elgo:
Talk about false equivalency. What if the TV is advertised as having a feature that doesn't work correctly (as with the GPS on the Vibrant), the manufacturer calls it a software issue but it is finally fixed later on in newer models due to it being, in actuality, a hardware problem? Shouldn't the company have issued a recall?

What if you were sold a computer with an optical drive that worked 40% of the time? Would you settle for that?
[Vibrant General] dasunsrule32:
I have no problem with this...someone needs to show the big men that the little men make their jobs. I am on my second Vibrant, the first headphone jack was bad, then they forced me into a used Vibrant within my two week period... I will jump in on this. I went through 5 MyTouch's too, gps kept burning out on them. Vibrant has been really frustrating with the gps...
[Vibrant General] wangjt:
All I see is:

JI6 bricked your first phone. T-mobile promised you a replacement but couldn't get it to you fast enough. You finally got a replacement from T-Mobile. You want to file a class action suit against Samsung.

Another update bricked your 2nd phone. You got another replacement. You want to file a class action suit against Samsung.

You rooted, installed custom ROM and it broke your 3rd phone phone. They gave you another replacement. You blame Samsung for the problem and want to file a class action suit against them.

You're on your 4th phone. GPS doesn't work as accurately as you'd like. T-Mobile called the cops because you were angry and cussed at them in their store. The employees don't know you as a person and don't know how violent you could get. You blame Samsung and want to file a class action suit against them.

I'm not mad at you. I just think almost everything you said is a rant. The only thing that MIGHT have any chance is the GPS issue, which they already admitted to and provided a software fix. The fix improved it enough to be usable for navigation.
[Vibrant General] tincanman:
yes, i do agree on the part of software updates.

it's been at least 4 months since I first heard of the 2.2 update coming out.

and now, they are still saying it is about to come out officially.

even a apparent official version was leaked, it seems that samsung just don't want to release it officially. maybe a marketing scheme? (like apple and their plan of not providing ios 4.0 for iphone 2g and 4.3 for iphone 3g, this way, people wanting better software functionality would be forced to upgrade)

now with the new galaxy s around the corner, they've got more reasons to not release the better 2.2

the gps problem was fixed in the newer batches of galaxy s. but for the older batches, I think Samsung should provide free replacement/fix for the customers. I had a Canon camera which was known to have a problematic cmos. Canon was nice enough to fix that problem completely free, even paying for my shipping charges, and i was very pleased.

basically, i think all these problems are all part of the marketing scheme. by fixing them, samsung might lose customers that would buy their newer phones.

samsung is a good company, but this is just not right. please fix this samsung
[Vibrant General] accordex:
Exactly! Well said sir...
[Vibrant General] elgo:
Now I am not going to call him an idiot like another poster did, but he clearly has no idea how to conduct himself.

His first mistake was cursing them out in the T-Mobile store after being offered several replacements and having the cops called on him. His second mistake was relating to all of us that he had the cops called on him at the T-Mobile store. How could this help his case? It just makes him seem unstable and capricious.

While I think Samsung should be held accountable for releasing a faulty product, I would be surprised if this guy is for real.

And for the record, I love my Vibrant. I am just frustrated with the ****ty GPS and Samsung's lack of support, which means that my next phone may very well be a non-Samsung phone.

Still, I will give Samsung three things: at least they've leaked Froyo, and made the phones easy to root and almost impossible to brick. I've been running Froyo on my Vibrant since November, so it all works out in the end.
[Vibrant General] wangjt:
I'm going to have to disagree. Not fixing the problem makes people regret their purchase of a Samsung product. I've seen so many people in these threads going "I jumped ship and went HTC" or something similar. Most of the pissed off owners say they'll never buy another Samsung again because this has soured their experience with them.
[Vibrant General] dasunsrule32:
I don't have a problem getting a Samsung phone, but I have the feeling all my phones from here out, will be Google Experience phones and nothing else...
[Vibrant General] ebatr8:
If my phone made one call i would return it in the return period not be a retard and keep it only to complain later. Frankly i could careless about a period no one is asking you to read my comment or correct my punctuation now thank you for wasting your time in providing your useless criticism of my writing because i could careless about having proper punctuation on a forum i dont care about you and how you write in a forum so you should get a life and stop caring about mine, now go have yourself a nice day :)
[Vibrant General] TheArtiszan:
Stones at glasses houses here.

You also post on the forums too ruber and glue.

Just is a common courtesy with proper punctuation because without it makes it harder to read your posts. Also reflects on the type of person you are. Really detracts from your status when you do things like that and harder for other people to take you seriously.

Relax.
[Vibrant General] brnbock:
Wow Quadrant 30000+ :D Linpack -2
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
The fact that this happened is due to THE FACT that a MANAGER promised me a different model than what they said I would receive as a replacement

Just come into the store and have a rep diagnose my situation

first the rep was nice, then quickly became an asshyhole; BEFORE I said a word!

he started giving me an attitude; then blowing me off

I WAITED AN HOUR

This after 3 replacements DUE to UPDATES, and constantly being lied to on the phone

T-Mobile TRYING to charge me for shipping 3 times

that they said was supposed to be covered due to my issues

and the FACT that the phone was defective

UPDATES bricked my phones UPDATES sent by T-Mobile

Have you ever heard of emotional distress

I NEED my phone to function AT ALL TIMES to do my job

Or I lose a lot of money. I don't get a paycheck,

I rely on each client to

call me

to arrange appointments to do music related business, and that is how I survive

I lost a lot of money that month that I waited for my first replacement

It took T-Mobile 26 days to send me one

Thats a lot of business lost and a hell of a bad mark on my reputation

for reliability that I promise to each of my clients
[Vibrant General] Dutchmda:
He has a point here!!!

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2011/...yo-for-t-mobile-vibrant-held-back-by-samsung/

It's kind of ****ty that they took 9 million in sales world wide to take a serious dump on those 9 million. I'm for the class action suit.
[Vibrant General] TheArtiszan:
Ha Ha micbeast you allways make me laugh

T-Mobile doesn't send the update Samsung does.

I don't know how you can have so many problems with the updates over an over when even only a small percentage of the technical minded have reported issues here.

If you are really that unhappy with the device and are so impatient to wait for the update, sell it and buy a different phone.

Bottom line is Samsung acknowledged and overly fixed the hardware GPS issue, and other issues with software are being addressed with the update to be released. While it sucks, there is nothing saying that they are not coming out with it.

Just need to wait for the update.

Oh also T-Mobile and Samsung are not liable for lost income on device or service by the way. I am sure your lawyer told you that.
[Vibrant General] falafelfro:
I highly doubt this clown is orchestrating a class action lawsuit. He is inarticulate and has no qualms about acting like an irate and irrational fool. The day a law firm actually takes on this kid's case as he has presented it to this forum is the day corn starts growing on the moon.

Perhaps a class action lawsuit against Samsung could be viable, but not using the case he brings to the table.
[Vibrant General] csdalporto:
Complete lies

Yes in the beginning the ads showed a galaxy s phone broadcasting a mobile hotspot for a laptop. And what do you know, i buy the phone and it can't perform this task, however in the promised update of froyo it will meet the specifications of the advertisement. However this never came.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
funny

if only you knew how many are with me on this one
[Vibrant General] _DiMoN_:
But for the record... it is not all the family of the Galaxy S phones.. for example the i9000 received FroYo long time ago and all the problems with the GPS has been fixed.

It happened to have both devices...and saw the difference, it the case stands I think you should go forward.

For example at my Vibrant the GPS works randomly, I can not rely on it.
[Vibrant General] New_Guy777:
Wow, the insanity continues.

First off, the GPS is not broke, the SOFTWARE is extremely slow to get a strong lock. Call it 2-5 minutes. However, SAMSUNG UPDATED IT! Now, for those of us using the 2.2 (FroYo) ROM that was given to T-MO and leaked to developers, we get strong signal locks.

The Compass is not broken, IT NEEDS CALIBRATED. You can do this by opening Google Maps, switching to compass mode, and waving the phone in Figure 8's. I swear, this works, and was also something that needed done with my friend's HTC HERO and HTC EVO. So, a common occurance.

Updating to FroYo is not a requirement for carriers or manufacturers. However, just to set the record straight, Samsung did a FroYo update for the T-Mobile Vibrant back in October. And, ever since then, many great developers on this site have been cooking up customer ROM's based on this. So, the distribution fault lies totally with T-Mobile.

So, you have a functional phone, with amazing hardware, and a fully functional OS (ECLAIR is VERY functional). Your GPS is slow (but works) and your Compass can be calibrated to function. And you can remove all of your complaints about the OS if you simply follow the instructions found in this forum.

WHAT IS YOUR FREAKING PROBLEM!?!
[Vibrant General] misfit1306:
Isnt this the very kind of thing that reminds us how freaking grateful we are for the developers and countless others who figure out how to give us the real full potential of our devices? I'm mean lets be realistic here....is there any major reason any of us spend countless hours on XDA feverishly flashing, romming,theming,and bricking our phones other than the fact that we are all pirates. Modern day techno crazy pirates who know by the proof that our trusted developers have so graciously shown us....THAT THE MAN (sammy,t-mo,etc) IS ALWAYS HOLDING BACK THE REAL GOODS from us, and its protected by a wall of fancy talk excuses that some stiff suit wrote.

Pirates don't sue baby.....no, no. pirates race home from work at the end of the day...titanium backing apps in the car with one hand and driving with the other. We race through the garage, pet the dog, mumble something to the old lady, and head to the computer to charge our little high definition amoled screen pirate ships with one of the latest power roms (that THE MAN says we can't have!) So my gps puts me two streets over half the time, so I gotta keep my charger with me everywhere I go. Small stuff when I can fire this baby up and quietly say "f*** the man" with the rest of these techno rebels on XDA.

My advice is give your fancy lawyer money to one of these real rockstars on here so they can keep building us some rad roms man. Then chillout, and start up Odin, warm up Clockwork,climb into your cockpit and start romming with us! Screw da man.

Sent from my bag phone w/black bag & curly cord to handset
[Vibrant General] drmosh:
I back you up completely!!

Regarding civil lawsuits and class action suits... the company does not have to be found necessarily of "breaking any laws", they usually just settle in a class action or the defendants in the class are awarded summary judgement. So this is a perfectly viable case...

Also the bigger the target the bigger the settlement, any viable law firm would take this case without much quandry...

I'm not a lawyer so don't take my word for it.
[Vibrant General] goob1284:
Thank you!!!!!!:)))) even though I don't use gps or stock roms. (Phoenix is awesome btw:-)) but this is crap. I wanted froyo so badly. Now I eant.gingerbread even more! Please push forward with this!! Please!!!
[Vibrant General] ytj87:
This is one of the reasons the USA is no longer globally competitive and doesn't produce anything the world wants to buy: a legal system that allows things like this.
[Vibrant General] falafelfro:
Enjoyed reading that :)
[Vibrant General] TheArtiszan:
T-Mobile never advertised the device with wifi tethering. The international Galaxy S device does have wifi tethering. Not T-Mobile's fault.
[Vibrant General] elgo:
Cool story, dude! Sounds like you've got it all together. Good luck with the class action suit.

Mods, why don't we close this thread or move it out of the dev section?
[Vibrant General] ihackyourtech:
I'm on your side and agree with everything you've said. I hope you do win. If I had the money I'd hire a lawyer and do the same thing.

The only reason I'm happy with my Vibrant is because its rooted & has a custom ROM installed. If I went back to stock, I'd be frustrated with this thing everyday.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
The only thing I disagree with you about here, is closing this thread or moving it

This has been proven as an effective location for such an issue

I am merely raising peoples awareness to this matter

People are responding with links, and even more evidence

That is a beautiful thing

and all it took was for someone like me to stand up

Thanks everyone for your support.
[Vibrant General] TheArtiszan:
Really micbeast? How many of the over 10+ million do you have?

I highly doubt that this lawsuit will even make it off the ground, let alone to a court room.

I think the lawsuit will push them along to make progress with the update. But I do doubt that much more then that will come from this if it does go anywhere.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
The law on the first page states CLEARLY that the company DOES NOT have to actually commit this crime

All THAT HAS TO BE PROVEN

is THE INTENT

you would be surprised how many people are responding supporting my cause

and I agree with some of them that you may just be waiting in line

for a payment if this settles
[Vibrant General] Daddy_617:
Lol so much negativity. Man I'm with you, my gps never works good. When I'm standing still gps is fine sometimes, but it's still garbage. I'm not really mad at sumsung about froyo or anything thanks to XDA DEVELOPERS, but no matter what rom I'm on... gps sucks. Even if this this lawsuit is dismissed I just want my gps to work. I love this phone even though there isn't a ffc, led flash or froyo, I bought this phone knowing this, but I didnt know gps was going to be a piece of crap. Samsung if you read this, fix my gps please!
[Vibrant General] BuLLeT_PrOOf_wAlleTz:
I don't know why people get so passionate and ignorant for. If someone wants to try to sue a giant corp. Then he has has every right to.

One simple post isn't going to affect u in anyway. If u don't like the topic then keep it moving. The mods obviously know this thread is here... leave it to them to decide to move it.

How about some constructive feed back. And stop some of the ignorance here.. using big ol' fancy words ain't gunna make no one care -_-
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
I posted this here because I KNEW this is where it would raise the most awareness

I am able to use my Vibrant LARGELY because of XDA

I would say that it was ONLY because of this forum; but You didn't come visit me and install this on your phone itself...lol

Thank You XDA for the great ROMS

I tried to participate by adding feedback to another forum but was bullied off of it.

I felt that I originally approached this matter irrationally

I took a few steps back, and remembered some helpful advice from some peers

Now I am approaching this matter intelligently and professionally

regardless of the adversity

Someone needed to do something

and I've had enough

Isn't that my right?
[Vibrant General] TheArtiszan:
Like I said before, numerous times in fact, that other then a small hicup here and there I have no issues with my device. There for no real need to join in the "class".

That aside, the "crime" in question was that Samsung "intended" to sell you a device with a update, defective gps, or whatever the case maybe. Then just to push sales for a new device and go back on said promise.

There is no clear intent to device in anything you have posted on the parts of Samsung or T-Mobile. People are seeming joining the cause because they are upset they don't have their update.

Hardly a case for a lawsuit in my opinion.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
NO they PROMISED an update within the first couple weeks

THAT was a major selling point for this device

REMEMBER all the hype behind FROYO?

I am doing this to raise awareness to the problem, hopefully this will change the way Samsung, and T-Mobile operate

and hopefully us (the customer) actually gain SOMETHING for our investment into a failed device

read this whole thread PLEASE

not just my last response
[Vibrant General] ryangera:
I heard that if you are a donator you can already collect your settlement. @omgfree$$$
[Vibrant General] himynameisAO:
I'm sure they will take you seriously with an email like sinistabeatz.
[Vibrant General] STiGLOGiC:
First let me say that I am not terribly thrilled with Samsung or T-Mobile about the way that this device has received support. That being said, I honestly can't say that anything stated when I purchased this phone was inaccurate.

4" super AMOLED screen (yep, still there)

Bluetooth 3.0 (still there)

Android 2.1 upgradeable to 2.2 (I have indeed upgraded to 2.2)

GPS (while it may not have worked properly, it did exist. It's existence alone makes GPS a valid statement)

Web browser (still there)

do I really need to go on? I mean, I want the same level of support as anyone else, but what exactly to you expect to accomplish? What are your demands? If you want another phone, contact T-Mobile. I did a long time ago, and now there is a full upgrade on my account just waiting for me to use whenever I want. I wont ask for my money back because when I paid them, I paid for a stock 2.1 vibrant. Had I not rooted, I would still have that. Just wait I paid for. At this point if you want 2.2 and a working GPS, get it. FFC wasn't promised to you, but you can have that too, if you want it. It might set you back 25 bucks, but you will have it. I don't know about the rest of you, but I keep buying Android devices because of what the community has to offer. Not the carrier or the hardware developer.
[Vibrant General] ryangera:
I wasn't going to say anything, but +1

Maybe he filed a clazz action law zuit.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
If I didn't then why I am providing the source

did anyone bother to ask that question

and my e mail has nothing to do with the matter

I am a Record Producer, Engineer etc.

That is the name of my Company