yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
Unless you can port the USB driver for the touchscreen from froyo to HC, you won't go far with this I guess :(
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
I know but why its so hard to port that?

What is different between Hc and Froyo in the Touchscreen-Use?
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
no sources no propper port quite easy.

i am looking forward to 4.0 with open source again cm7 with tablet mods is great (never got warm with 3.0 on the xoom but 3.1 is afaik better in the parts i didn't like) but you still see that it isn't made for tablets
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
You mean the Android Source,aren't you?

Hm crap:D

I have an idea:

Couldn't we compare how touchscreen is hosted at the 8.9 Galaxy Tab (Froyo) and the 10.1 Galaxy Tab (Honeycomb)?

So we could see the differents about Touchscreen Support from Froyo to Honeycomb, and that would make port the drivers much easier:)

Just an idea, what do you think?
[Gen8 Android Development] ArchosRocker:
Haiiy $auron,

my friend lenn told me to do the thing with the terminal app ( get_infop ),

I want to do it, but I couldn't enter anything there didn't came a keyboard (the same with other terminals). And now?
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Press long the menu button ;)
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
yeah reeingeneer the drivers or test drivers from devices which work similar i am not an expert in it .

perhaps the 2.2 drivers just need heavy try and error code action(i am from delphi c# and a lil java so this all sounds like hockuspokus (ist das ueberhaupt english) to me)

everything is doable with enough time and knowledge but it is not worth it imo.

even with devices which got a hc port most users aren't satisfied with it .

it will not run properly you can't work on most parts and you have to use a rom from a different device or the emulator which is never nice...

so let's hope for stuff from aosp 2.3 or a clean build on that source which can be updated alot easier and is generally more futureproof
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Thank you for the explanation:)

but please read this post:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1083140&page=3

Maybe i found our solution:)
[Gen8 Android Development] gbohm:
we will see ;-) optimism is never wrong

let us stay ot from now on
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Well, thats what i think:D

you think you're able to do this?

Otherwise i've to ask $aur0n :)
[Gen8 Android Development] snickle:
$aur0n,

I just noticed an issue with the 1.1b3 build. I was doing some performance testing, so i edited the cpu govenor config file to set the interactive governor and set the max and min speeds to 1000000.

But the cpu still changes speeds. Any ideas?
[Gen8 Android Development] solune:
Hello,

New version of urukConfig, still 1.1 beta.

There is 2 news in it :

- a service to see update/upgrade evolution (in a future release of urukdroid).

- widgets for desktop ! You can put one or more widget on archos desktop, to see running state of a service and to start or stop it as you wish.

/!\ I know: my widget is quite ugly :rolleyes: but hey, it works ! (at least I believe it does). In future update I'll do something more smart, but for now I take a break. Was really hard to make that work, much more than expected...

I'm really interested in feed-back if that's work ok for you or not, my archos as received not less than 150 widgets on his face :D so I'm not sure of it for now !

Normaly, change service state in urukconfig should update widget state, but if you change widget state in widget, you have to go to menu refresh to see the change. Maybe I'll put a check on the onResume if that don't take too much time.

Hope you'll enjoy it ;)
[Gen8 Android Development] ArchosRocker:
@$auron,

now it worked,

my archos43 shows with get_info p:

a43

so everything is fine ^-^
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Hey solune,

You need a tester?^^

:D I want to help:)
[Gen8 Android Development] msticninja:
Seems to be working well. The widget isn't that ugly. ;)

I have had a few FCs of Urukconfig.nc while watching videos over SMB. The only widget I'm using is CIFS, and it hasn't FCed any time other than watching vids. Maybe something to do with the fact that the Video player is using the CIFS service to play samba content?
[Gen8 Android Development] solune:
I have few FCs too with urukConfig :( and was just reading pdf files. Seems I need to improve code... Thanks for feed-back :)
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Hey solune,

Do you need me as an helper or tester again?:)
[Gen8 Android Development] snickle:
Leaving the Archoss community. Just bought a Acer a500.

$aaur0n, thanks for all the work.

Anyone want perfectly good 16gb a101, for a reasonable price? I am in the us.
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
That was fast ... i guess ;) It's hard to blame you since 256MB of RAM sucks (new samsung phones has 1,7GB of RAM!!!)
[Gen8 Android Development] msticninja:
Did you take out the wpa-supplicant switch for a reason? I hadn't used it yet, because I'm still using to stock wpa-supplicant, but it seemed like it would still be a nice switch to have in UrukConfig.
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
Very good device, but too large to fit into my jacket poket or jeans backpocket :)
[Gen8 Android Development] solune:
Well I take it out because $auron said in a post here that it's no more requiered.

If the two modes works with last release of UrukDroid and switch script is still there, I can put it back in urukconfig. I have not verified that.
[Gen8 Android Development] msticninja:
No problem, I was just wondering. I didn't notice that he changed the supplicant file on 1.1b2, so I thought my wifi was broken, because I didn't use the new wifi manager. I didn't even realize what was wrong until I reformatted and reinstalled, then noticed the Wpa setting in UrukConfig 1.0. Then I felt like a complete idiot. :)

Sauron: I know we're in beta, but it was really hard to find the post related to switching the wpa-supplicant. Maybe you could add a readme with important changes to the update file? If I had been following the thread more closely, I probably would've noticed, but it'd still be nice. I didn't realize I needed to use the new wifi manager after 1.1b2, so I kept reinstalling and getting the same result. ;)

P.S. When I mount to my computer, it mounts the external SD Card, I'd like to be able to change it to the internal storage sometimes. Is that done in vold, or somewhere else?
[Gen8 Android Development] machhho:
this is for $aur0n .

can you please put these arabic fonts in system/fonts/* in your next release of UrukDroid , you still gana have english but with full arabic support .

thanks in advance

http://www.android-devs.com/downloads/ArabicDroidSansFonts.zip
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
You did a good job!;)
[Gen8 Android Development] vantoman:
i think the arabic fonts wont help; we need the RTL support in Framework.jar and libwebcore.so i got both files but there is a problem with libwebcore.so as it keeps the browser on restarting but the email application is working great and the system fully supports arabic .

move the .so files to /system/lib

and framework.jat file to /system/framework

PS: libwebcore.so will make your browser restart.

$aur0n would you please try to help us in solving the libwebcore.so issue

download the file from here: http://www.multiupload.com/SODT66O2RN
[Gen8 Android Development] machhho:
I wish I did it, I'm still with no connected arabic font and I did what you told me in a different post about chmod command but it didn't work . that's why I'm asking Auron to include arabic in his next release , that's if he can ( no obligation ) .

thanks any ways
[Gen8 Android Development] machhho:
You are right , fonts are not enough for reading arabic but when I move framework.jar to system/framework or libwebcore.so to system/lib , my archos 43 won't boot up and freezes so I have to install the UrukDroid rom again .

I gave up ......
[Gen8 Android Development] vantoman:
did you copy libandroid_runtime.so and libicuuc-arabic.so to /system/lib or not?
[Gen8 Android Development] machhho:
yes I did, it made my device freeze
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
guyz last day I was trying to download data from a usb key to my A70S. But the key wasn't working

I had a quick look at dmesg log and found that my key needed more than the max 100mA allowed by the system. It seems that this issue only affects A70 devices.

After having a look at kernel sources, I have built a new one with a bit more juice. ATM I have allowed 200mA but could go higher ;)

Now my usb key is working without the need of a powered usb host!

Let me know if you're interested and I'll post the kernel.

Sent from my A70S using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Gen8 Android Development] msticninja:
I think iFlip would be interested in that, as well as others.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1051387
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
Ho I see... Because the limit is purely software ! It's embedded in kernel sources in the usb driver.

Well... I cannot guarantee that if you plug a too demanding device you will not toast your usb port tho.

I've posted the kernel on the thread you just mentioned.
[Gen8 Android Development] ZakMcRofl:
Hi,

I'm new here but keen to play around with my Archos A70H (250GB HDD version).

First I tried Urukdroid 1.0 but it freezes a lot on my device (when playing Angry Birds for example).

Then I installed kernel 1.1b3 and Urukdroid 1.1b2 hoping that the 2.3.26 changes help with stability but now I can't connect to my WPA2-PSK encryted wifi.

Did I miss something? I tried to enable WPA in urukconfig but that didn't help either.

Any ideas?
[Gen8 Android Development] Windkracht13:
Hmmmm, think I've missed some ...

Where can I find Urukdroid 1.1b2 i'm still on 2.1.8 and would like to 2.3.26?

TH@NKZzz
[Gen8 Android Development] msticninja:
Update and Kernel 1.1b1:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1017593/ArchosGEN8/UrukDroid-1.1/UrukDroid-1.1beta1-kernel.tbz2

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1017593/ArchosGEN8/UrukDroid-1.1/UrukDroid-1.1beta1-update-rc.tbz2

Update 1.1b2:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1017593/ArchosGEN8/UrukDroid-1.1/UrukDroid-1.1beta2-update-rc.tbz2

And Kernel 1.1b3:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1017593/ArchosGEN8/UrukDroid-1.1/UrukDroid-1.1beta3-kernel.tbz2
[Gen8 Android Development] *BlackMagic*:
in what order and where do i install those? sry for my ignorance plz refer me if there is a guide i have missed
[Gen8 Android Development] msticninja:
He changed the wpa-supplicant file, so you must use the Wifi Manager in the Apps menu to connect to networks, not the stock Wireless & Networks settings. I had to find that out after reflashig twice. :)
[Gen8 Android Development] msticninja:
No problem, there wasn't much instruction, this is the beta after all. :) After you do the 1.0 Install and have Uruk v1 running, drop the b1 kernel into the /data/UrukUpdate directory. Once it disappears, drop the b1 update into the /data/UrukUpdate directory. This one will take a while, and the device will reboot once it's installed. Once rebooted, copy the b2 update, and delete the b1 update file if it's still in the directory. After it installs the b2 update, it will reboot again. Then drop the b3 kernel into the /data/UrukUpdate directory, and manually reboot once it disappears.
[Gen8 Android Development] *BlackMagic*:
tnx will give that a whirl!

any way to see the cpu usage from terminal? to see how far the update is etc?
[Gen8 Android Development] *BlackMagic*:
hmm ok got it running but can see lots of wifi networks but not my own..also running WPA2

any clues?

running update b2 on kernel b3 now

hmm nvm got it, took a while to start working i guess:D
[Gen8 Android Development] ZakMcRofl:
Thanks for the tip, it worked (somewhat). The chipset seems to have real trouble roaming from my 802.11g AP to my 802.11n one. Actually I am considering returning the device due to the poor wifi reception...
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
Hi,

I'm planing to release RC for 1.1. So far I've changed some scripts behaviour, tested tablet for last three weeks. Sadly it's not fully stable - but it's a bit out of my reach (there are, from time to time, Dalvik restarts - so not entire tablet, just it's UI).

I can't also make newest kernel from Archos force to work (with or without patches) with any Android system interface (it stuck when it came to loading some 3d libraries) - so this part won't be changed in 1.1.

UrukConfig now can show up information about update process (thx. solune).

I've also find quite good file manager (I find it better then present in Uruk 1.0 "File manager") - "File expert". It has also root access feature - so it will be new default file manager in 1.1.

I'm thinking also about adding Opera Mobile browser to 1.1 as a default web browser since in latest version I find it smoothest from all Android browser. It's so good that I even started to fell it pleasurable to read web pages.

Please check if you fell the same (I've been using Miren browser - it's fastest browser using built in Android web engine, also I've used Fenec (Firefox) (beta) - witch is the best in "look and feel", but terribly slow. Dolphin is quite reach - but neither fast or really well designed.)

I've also used about 8 months ago Opera, and it was quite slow - now it's blazing fast (loading itself and web pages also).
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Thank you $aur0n fo the Report:)

Oh dammed about the kernel^^

I find Dolphin is the best browser, i think we should wait for Dolphin Browser v5 and then we compare:) (my opinion)

(Last beta version is v5b3;))

Did you neec help at anything?^^ Want to help ..:D
[Gen8 Android Development] LeoNg628:
Hi $aur0n,

How about Dolphin Mini? I've using it quite a long time on my Archos to replace Miren Browser, I think it cost less ram than Miren..:cool:

Cheers!

Leo
[Gen8 Android Development] Caste23:
hi all,

i love dolphin browser 5beta 3 but i can say that opera mobile is much better and smoother.... really love it.....
[Gen8 Android Development] cjdalessio:
A request: do not make Opera default. It is smooth but very quirky and not handling things right all the time. Web UI is my area of expertise, so I spend a ton of time browser testing. It does not yet sit in the "no extra work required" camp with Firefox or native android webkit (or safari iOS) , or ffx, chrome, safari, opera, ie8+ all in desktop...

I keep hoping they buff it up more but ...

I can share more detail via email or pm if desired but not in the forum at this time.

C
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
@$aur0n

Should i create a poll thread about this?:)
[Gen8 Android Development] fzelle:
I would also advice you not to include another browser.

If you check on this site there are allready enough opinions for/against it, so deliver with the default and let your users decide.

Maybe give a link to what you think is better.

And about stability, is it as stable as 1.1b3?
[Gen8 Android Development] todobarato:
Hello,

I am for Dolphin mini, I think is light weight , but have all functions that web browsing needs.

Ciao,

FERENC.
[Gen8 Android Development] coen22:
I Like opera 11 as well:)

Or maybe you can add it to the easy installer so everyone's able to choose their default browser
[Gen8 Android Development] LeoNg628:
Let's do it.:cool::cool:
[Gen8 Android Development] stephen44:
I don't get it - whatever is default - does not stop you using the others ?

so why sweat which is default ?

just my 2c :p
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
I created a Poll at the "normal" Sub-Forum:)

Please do this and discuss about it there;)
[Gen8 Android Development] rplc790222:
UrukDroid 1.1

..... I have installed b3 kernel on my UrukDroid 1.0, and worked a little bit diferent with less lags, but I would like to know if I install Uruk 1.1beta1, and beta2 updates will improve my sistem a little more? ... If so ... should I install Urukdroid from scratch all over again? ... I mean if the updates are really necesary.... Thanks for your advice ...

Ah one last thing, If it's posible to make the updates without reinstalling urukdoid again, will I loose all my apps after update???
[Gen8 Android Development] machhho:
How much time we need to wait to get the UrukDroid 1.1 final release , and what's the changelog .

thanks
[Gen8 Android Development] solune:
Hello,

Little update to UrukConfig, I've found the "force close" reason for widget service, and I think I've solved it.

By the way I've disable the auto-update on widget. They are now only udpated when doing action on a widget, or launching urukconfig (and changing services states in it too).

I've found another force close that may happen when you click too fast on change settings in urukconfig, and solve it as well (nothing happen when you click too fast, keep cool slow down ;) )

Thanks to tell me if you see "force close" using urukConfig or widget !
[Gen8 Android Development] msticninja:
Solune: Testing Now...

$auron: I think you should leave it as stock as possible. It's easy to install Opera from the Market if you want Opera, but it's alot harder to copy the original browser.apk back on if you like the original browser. I actually liked the original archos File Manager when I was browsing network files or the sd card. There's less directories to go through. I just recopy the original from a backup when I reinstall Uruk, but you get my point. I think new Apps can be added, but stock ones shouldn't be removed. Just my opinion. :)
[Gen8 Android Development] solune:
Thanks for test :)

I've forgot to say that widget now is 2x1 (before was 1x1).
[Gen8 Android Development] msticninja:
Hehe, and I forgot to say I cut it down to 1x1 with Launcher pro, and it's still reading fine, unless state is unknown, then it cuts off a bit, but nothing you need to worry about. :) So far no FCs, but it didn't happen often on the last version, so we'll have to wait and see.
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
There is a changelog on wiki: http://code.google.com/p/urukdroid/wiki/Changelog
[Gen8 Android Development] thefunkygibbon:
what about adding "SD Speed Increase" and Chainfire3D to the rom? (both developed on xda)
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
SD speed whatever just changes some kernel parameter - not needed here. I'll take a look at chainfire - don't know what it is.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Its a kind of Gpu/Graphics modificated drivers for android;)

A guy from a thread have test it and from the normal app way it dont works..

When he have copy the drivers manually into right location, his archos was broken, he had to setup UD again:mad:

After the German and English Wikipedia Article, we'll getting a Chinese Article soon:);)
[Gen8 Android Development] ZakMcRofl:
Where can I find the source repository?

I'd like to see if I can find a solution for the horrible wifi support of this chipset (roadming from 802.11g to 802.11n doesn't work).
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
You mean Urukdroid?

Here you go:

http://code.google.com/p/urukdroid/source/browse/

;)
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
Ihave posted a few days ago a patched kernel based on 1.1b3 kernel, able to deliver 200mA to the usb port instead of 100mA

Could anybody give it a try and let me know if it's working for you. We then may add this in a future official rlz if that suits $auron

Sent from my HTC Desire with DATA2SD :)
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Where?:D

I must haven't read this, i would love to use my HDD :)

Could you please post the link again?

Do it just work with Boot Menu Kernel Flashing or also with the Urukdroid Update folder?
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
You can search... or go here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14243482&postcount=18
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Okey, thanks;)

This only works over the normal kernel flashing way, right?

(BOOT MENU)

How high you think could you set the limit?

I think archos set this limitation oje day, down, because my hdd works :D but now my hdd not working anymore...
[Gen8 Android Development] LeoNg628:
its seems fantastic! but how to use it:confused::confused:
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
I think it only works with the normal way..

Start your Archos and press the Volume Down ( - ) Button.

Recovery System

Deceloper Menu

Flash Kernel and initramfs

Maybe this's not 100% correctly, but you should find it;)

Then just connect your archos to pc and copy the two files.

(Just like, when you installed Urukdroid;))
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
that's it. flash the files with SDE

Original post/idea was here

Sent from my A70S using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Thanks a lot ;) Your Kernel is good:)

Nearly,All my Usb Devices work:)

My HDD still dont work..:(

I read in forums that the most External HDD's need much more energy at the start as in normal operations..

Would it be possible to create a script, that brings at the start high energy to the usb port ( maybe 400-500mA ??) and after ~10 seconds scale down to 200-300 mAh?

That would be assome!:)
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
I don't think so.

It's hard coded in the kernel.

But I can build a 500mA kernel tho :)

How much do your HDD need?
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Do you know a guy who could help us?

Do you think this would work? Maybe we could brick our Usb Hosts:D

I don't know, we could do it step by step:D

@$aur0n:

What do you think about this? Would you add this to Urukdroid, its a very nice feature:)
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
If you're feeling brave enough, I can do that.

[OFF TOPIC] but just by curiosity I ran honeycomb 3.1 in the android emulator with 256Mo of RAM only to reflect our little device.

Then run an adb shell and gathered RAM statistics.

Just after start, HC is not using a lot of RAM

root@android:/proc # cat meminfo
cat meminfo
MemTotal: 256596 kB
MemFree: 54432 kB
Buffers: 40 kB
Cached: 109068 kB

Roughly 93Mb used by the system. The rest is free/cache RAM.

And It's running on a 2.6.29 kernel like froyo on my A70S :D

root@android:/proc # cat version
cat version
Linux version 2.6.29-gb0d93fb-dirty (digit@lulu.par.corp.google.com) (gcc version 4.4.3 (GCC) ) #2 Fri Mar 18 11:46:50 CET 2011

[/OFF TOPIC]
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
How high do you think is the limit? I dont want to brick my Archos, because i love it!:):D

Greeeat!:) I knew it all time:D

The World need more optimists!:)

Do you know how much RAM froyo needs?
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
the more the better, but the froyo emulator runs with a default of 96mb :)

The limit is 500mA on a USB port.

Can you check how much your HDD needs?
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
I knew it!

Everybody say: Oh no, you have to little Ram memory! PAAAAH!:D:)

I know, i know.

I already did this over my pc, but it says 2mA:D I think this is a failure:D:D

But it works with just one usb cable (not ycable) so it requires under 500 mA.

Maybe we could do 100er steps?
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
I'll see what I can do.

Do you have the model of your HDD? manufacturer, model, make, etc... ?

BTW Froyo uses on boot in the emulator 53Mb of RAM. Obviously no widgets, nothing at all is running in the background.

EDIT

I'm not 100% sure but I think this zImage has been built with 400mA limit. It's running ATM on my A70S but I haven't got a 400mA device to try :)

it's #6 version. Try it anyway.

Edit 2

Sorry, #6 was limited to 200mA too

Here is a 400mA limited kernel.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Cool, just +43 MB, thats pretty!:) And this with the Honeycomb UI, what luck!:)

Euhm... its a german producer, sub-company of an warehouse (aldi-medion) for electronics.

Its named: Medion Drive-n-Go 320 GB

I bet if this gonna run, many others HDD's would also work!:)

Specs of the HDD could seen here:

http://www.mediondirect.de/print_pr...645?i-ToolId=b304b511a4d298953e18080f3bb3fd92

What do you think?

_______

Edit:

Thank you for new Kernel, i'll test it tomorrow ;)

Hope it will work and dont toast my archos ... ^^

However, im a optimist :) :D