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[Gen8 Android Development] cjdalessio:
Hmm, I hadn't tried it in terminal, but the lack of button arrows means you're stuck with volume+[1-0] keys for arrow (but that includes up/down to get cmd history and whatnot...) Tested it to be sure. However, if typing something like e-mail and you want to go back to the middle of two words ago because the auto-correct borked it, you can tap over and it then puts a draggable arrow-box-thing below, allowing you to fine-tune the placement (similar to use of the <> arrows on the stock Archos keyboard on 2.2) so it's much nicer IMHO for that kind of thing. Text select is nicer (see Kindle app for how it works). Other differences to really get there from what I've gathered.

Working on getting there. I'll just be really slow at it. :) I had a nice dual core un-used that's now re*nix'd and closer to being ready to go (photo editing on *nix still sucks far too much for it to be my mainstay at home...) I was more hoping if I got stuck on something I might find a little more help vs no one having a clue on anything Archos-g8 related. I got my new SD card on Friday, so finally have all the pieces.
[Gen8 Android Development] jknut:
I think there is only 1.5RC1:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16513028&postcount=1751
[Gen8 Android Development] jakkrith:
Why some people mention to UrukDroid 1.5RC2 :confused: :D
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
I think he missed RC1 and means the b2 of 1.5:D:)
[Gen8 Android Development] alex2308:
Ahh, sorry, yes, I meant 1.5B2, really sorry!
[Gen8 Android Development] FrEcP:
@sauron

hey, just a short question about newes 1.5RC1

are all those nicepaches sibere provided (browser cache, ram optimistation, libsql.so,...) included or can we boost our device even more by using em?

Gr8 work on RC1 hope youe device will return fast after geting repaired ;)
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
I think unfortunality no..

But im sure that sibere work on that:)

It would be great if siberes kernel would be the standart kernel of uruk... it will take longer for new urukdroid versions to came out but whatever:):D
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
And how this kernel is different/better? I may missed something but only patch that came here is an USB patch and it's present.

About libsql change - this is something that makes database writes less reliable and potential system crash may corrupt databases. I've already tried (for example) using ext4 filesystem in fastest mode somewhere at Uruk 0.4 - this made quite often datafs corrupted. So things that are good for more advanced people like you, are not always better for most of other people.

So in my opinion those modification you may apply easily by yourself - without making it "default" behaviour.
[Gen8 Android Development] JasonOT:
Same issue w/ Uruk market update here.

Downloaded ArcTools 0.50 from the Archos Market, installed 3.0.26, good to go.

I didn't have any problem with YouTube though, and G+ wasn't installed by default.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Hm.. this make sence, sorry sauron.

But this kernel (i think v13 is the lastest) is very good, just for example i have had (ud1.0) a quadrant score 2900 :) i know a quadrant score doesnt say so much about the device, but it is an argument:) hopefully sibere will release his v14 with 1.5 support:)

No it isnt, i installed it manually before i installed th market... but now its okay;):)
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
I agree. Default has to be the safe way. If you want more from your device, you just install the patched libsqlite and you're good to go. If you don't know how to do it, well you'd better not doing it :)

About the kernel, once again it's everyone's choice.

Uruk is coming with it's default kernel and com'on, it's not that hard to flash my kernel if you want to give it a try :)

BTW I'm still using my undervolted/overclocked kernel and it's really stable (uruk 1.0). The only issue I have ATM with it is 1 game refuses to start when it's OC to 1200Mhz. I have to limit the speed to 1GHz with setcpu before launching the game .

Maybe I'll have a look at this later.
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
They should all work with 1.5. At least browser cache and ram optimisation. libsql shoudl work too since it's not gingerbread :)

Feel free to report if you try them on 1.5
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
I will this eve:)

The last is v13 right?;)
[Gen8 Android Development] jakkrith:
I just want to say I love UrukDroid 1.5 RC 1 so much. :D

- No any problem with Wifi (in 1.5 beta 3 I can't add wifi network by manual)

- Stock Browser no problem

- Thank for include apps "Opera Mobile", "File Expert" and "QuickPic"

- Run smooth with CpuGovernor. (Better than 1.5 beta 3)

Work fine together with Arctools app.
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
Uruk 1.0 V15 kernel

Hemmm no, the last one is V15 but hasn't been posted ;)

It's similar to V13 but slightly less undervolted for better stability. (my A70IT was a bit unstable at 1000Mhz and at 300Mhz and I experienced after a short while reboots when the device was on stby. My CPU needed a tad more juice ;). Nothing like this with V15. If your archos is stable with V13, you don't need to flash this one)

It's for Uruk 1.0 and not for 1.5

(should work with 1.1b too)

Here it is

PS: I can't believe that the V10 and V13 have been downloaded so many times! :D
[Gen8 Android Development] fzelle:
Because it is faster and feels more stable.

And it works with ud 1.1b2 more stable.
[Gen8 Android Development] ZakMcRofl:
I just wanted to report that the latest 1.5 release still freezes on my Archos A70H (250Gb HDD), for example when playing videos. I installed it via the recovery menu and used the simple install. Is there a better install method for HDD based Archos devices yet?
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Hm okey thanks sibere:)

I try it now, will report back here;)

___

Anyone knows if the boot menu works with 1.5 too?

It worked with 1.0 with a little workaround :)
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
@sibere:

It didnt work..

It boots up normally and boots into the boot screen (the first; of course it says that it boots 1.1rc1 but that isnt the problem:D) but after that it doesnt boot into the animated boot screen, i get just a blank (black) screen.. i tried it many times and reflash the normal kernel and just again V15 but still the same...

Anyway i reflashed the normal kernel:)

Any suggestions?
[Gen8 Android Development] lordofazeroth:
For Sauron:

I noticed that SD card cache is 128 kb which is way too low.

Maybe you set it on 2048 on Standard?
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
V13 is booting normally ? What are you calling "normal kernel" ? The $auron's stock 1.0 kernel?

Are you on UD1.0 or UD1.5? Do you use Urukconfig cpugovernor service?

I need more info to suggest something ;)

ATM I can only say... well... keep the "normal" kernel.

Maybe you CPU doesn't like being overclocked to 1200MHz.

Yes it says 1.1rc1 'coz I'm using 1.1rc1 initramfs but it is only used to boot the OS ;)
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
I use 1.5rc1 and wanted to test your kernel or 1.5:)

I mean the standart ud1.5 kernel with normal kernel;)

Yes i use cpugovernor:)

I will test it again with cpugovernor disabled, should this work?
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
No I don't think so.

Like I said, this kernel is for 1.0, not 1.5. I'm not surprised that it is not working :)

Even with the right kernel it would not boot because the initramfs is 1.1, not 1.5.
[Gen8 Android Development] FrEcP:
+1 same here - black screen after 1 ud boot screen

hope u continue for 1.5 ;) anyway didnt have luck with v12 and v 13 kernel either on ud 1.0 seems my device doesnt like overclocking :) :(

perhaps it will work some day

@lenn <- obsolete

wich files did u use to recover 1.5rc1 kernel?

I was so smart to creaty backup with ud recovery - but cant recover with flashed v15 kernel as the recovery menu is different :(

Did u take them from here or reflashed RC1 completely new?

EDIT: fount out myself ;) taking from link works fine
[Gen8 Android Development] JasonOT:
Sad to say I'm having terrible instability problems with 1.5RC1 and wifi won't come back on if gets turned off by being idle.

Sometimes when I boot up, I get nothing but force closes from everything you can imagine, and FCs just keep happening whenever I try to d something. Other times it'll go smoothly and everything's as it should be. The former is happening way too often, especially given I'm rebooting all the time because the wifi won't wake up.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Oh i think we had misunderstand eachother:):D

I was thinking about 1.5 all the time...

what ever, hope you will continue:)
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
No worries.

I thought it was clearly stated that this kernel was for 1.0 only ;)

ATM I'm very happy with the stability of 1.0 on my A70S and I don't need the new features brought by the last archos update.

did you try (just for obvious scientific purposes;) ) to flash v15 kernel with 1.5 initramfs?

0.1% chances that it is working worth trying, isn't it? :D
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
No, i didnt try this... i think i try it in half an hour or so:) will report back;)

Juhuu, my 1000th post:):):D
[Gen8 Android Development] sibere:
This kernel is for 1.0/1.1b only.

V13 was a bit too much undervolted even for my CPU.

I've added a bit more juice (but it's still undervolted, except for 1.2GHz) and it's super stable on my device now.
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
Which cache? There are few buffers/caches (and it's not the same).
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
I should not even bother to ask... but - what device, how installed, 'won come back' means it won't reconnect or wont even start wifi?
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
For all of you experimenting with kernel

Default Uruk Droid 1.5 kernel as Uruk Droid Package

http://sauron.pourix.com/UrukDroid/UrukDroid-1.5/UrukDroid-1.5-kernel.tbz2

Plain kernel and initramfs

http://sauron.pourix.com/UrukDroid/UrukDroid-1.5/zImage

http://sauron.pourix.com/UrukDroid/UrukDroid-1.5/initramfs.cpio.gz

OC kernel package

http://sauron.pourix.com/UrukDroid/UrukDroid-1.5/UrukDroid-1.5-kernelOC.tbz2

ps. yes it's marked 1.5 - since there were no serious errors I guess it's time...

ps2. FIX (for all 1.5beta and 1.5RC)

To make Uruk packages work, there is a small fix required.

Please copy this file to /.upgrade/ directory (if it's not there - create it) - and restart your device (during boot you should see for few seconds update message with progress bar)

http://sauron.pourix.com/UrukDroid/UrukDroid-1.5/UrukDroid-rootfs-update.tgz

You can use shell/ssh or File Expert app (that came with 1.5RC1) - but you have to enable root mode in application settings.
[Gen8 Android Development] alex2308:
Sounds good. Will test it. Does it support undervolting, too?
[Gen8 Android Development] jakkrith:
Dear $aur0n

I had download this file

Default Uruk Droid 1.5 kernel as Uruk Droid Package

http://sauron.pourix.com/UrukDroid/U....5-kernel.tbz2

and copy it into /data/UrukUpdate folder. After that I had found this Error Message

UrukDroid modification FAILD

Failed to use /data/UrukUpdate/UrukDroid-1.5-kernel.tbz2

I had try reboot my device it still UrukDroid 1.5 RC 1 :confused:

Root free space: 221

Data free space: 696

Edit:

I had tried again by flash Zimage & initramfs.cpio.gz from Developer Edition Menu, No any error message but still 1.5 RC1
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
I've updated the post. Please apply fix.
[Gen8 Android Development] jakkrith:
Thank you very much but I'm not success to upgrade.

1. Copy file "UrukDroid-rootfs-update.tgz" into /.upgrade

2. Copy file "UrukDroid-1.5-kernel.tbz2" (fixed) into /data/UrukUpdate

Still found this error "UrukDroid modification FAILD"

Failed to use /data/UrukUpdate/UrukDroid-1.5-kernel.tbz2

3. After Reboot

- No upgrade progress bar still show UrukDroid 1.5 RC 1

- file "UrukDroid-rootfs-update.tgz" remain in /.upgrade folder.

- file "UrukDroid-1.5-kernel.tbz2" was deleted from /data/UrukUpdate folder.
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
Are you sure it's in /.upgrade (both / and . are important - it has to be .upgrade directory on rootfs)
[Gen8 Android Development] lagoskon:
Update works after applying fix!!! Thanks OC to 1200MHz
[Gen8 Android Development] rplc790222:
Oooohhh

Thanks $auron I missed de OC in Uruk 1.5 I will try it today and report tomorrow, it's 2 o'clock and sunday here in Mexico
[Gen8 Android Development] jakkrith:
I had tried a lot of time to upgrade with "Default Uruk Droid 1.5 kernel Package" but not success. May be problem about /.upgrade folder on my device.

So, I had tried again by using files initramfs.cpio.gz, zImage from UrukDroid-1.5-kernelOC.tbz2 and flash with Developer Edition Menu.

At this time I'm very happy with OC-1200, although it still show "UrukDroid 1.5 RC1" in boot step & in UrukConfig. :rolleyes:
[Gen8 Android Development] steven20052009:
How to use kerbel OC ?

Can I use kernel OC with UD 1.5RC1?

Thank you:):)
[Gen8 Android Development] steven20052009:
Couldn't use OC kernel.... :)

I've already done upgrade to UD 1.5. But in some reason when I use OC kernel my A101 just hang on UD logo when booting. I don't know why. Could some body help.... Thank you very much:):):):confused::confused:
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
You propably didnt upgraded your rootfs before ..;)

Sauron wrote a fix to that in his post right down of the OC Kernel:)

To firstly go back to normal boot please flash this zImage and initramfs via Recovery:

http://sauron.pourix.com/UrukDroid/UrukDroid-1.5/initramfs.cpio.gz

And

http://sauron.pourix.com/UrukDroid/UrukDroid-1.5/zImage

Then copy the fix file (look at saurons post) and reboot..

After that upgrade to OC like you did it;):)

Greets

Lenn

@Sauron: Is the fix.tbz2 file from your pourix server working?
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
I've erased it - it was not an Uruk package.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Ahh okay..

Still a question sorry...

Where do i have to create the .update folder?

I tried at root,data and system..?;):)
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
It's an .upgrade not .update

su
cd /
mkdir .upgrade
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
UrukDroid 1.5

Final testing ;) if there will be no errors - goes fully public

EasyInstall for UrukDroid 1.5

UrukDroid_1.5-Install.rar (md5sum: b7cf1188141bca5ce29e83bf3a0baa55)

Upgrade to UrukDroid 1.5 (from 1.0, 1.1 and previous 1.5 version)

UrukDroid-1.5-upgrade.tbz2 (md5sum: c2396b316e710a397d117eda250926e0)

Warning - if you have 1.5 beta/RC - please apply fix first!

Upgrade does not install additional tools like: WiFi Manager, FileExpert, QuickPic, Opera browser. It's highly recommended to install them all manually.
[Gen8 Android Development] Lenn:
Will test it!:)

Sorry about my missunderstanding with upgrade/update folder;):D

Will report back:)
[Gen8 Android Development] JasonOT:
101, fresh install of kernel, initramfs, and RC1, won't even start wifi
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
Could you tried to reboot? I'm serious, from time to time (rarely) it happens that WiFi won't start (shows error - and that's it) - it's probably some timing issue (not fixed yet). Anyway - restart helps :)
[Gen8 Android Development] JasonOT:
It's happened pretty much any time I've left it to sit for a while (an hour or two?), so it's happened a few times since installing RC1.

For some reason it seems like if I leave it idle while plugged in to wall power, the wifi won't die.

I'm downloading the upgrade package you just posted a few hours ago, I'll report back after it's installed.

edit: Install went fine. Used it for a bit, Market and GMail started FCing constantly, rebooted, stuck at "UrukDroid 1.5 Boot: Switching to rootfs..." :mad:

edit 2: reinstalled seems to be more stable, but wifi still won't reenable if it sits for too long
[Gen8 Android Development] jakkrith:
Thank you very much $aur0n

1. copy file UrukDroid-rootfs-update.tgz to /.upgrade/ directory

2. reboot - found update progress bar

3. copy file UrukDroid-1.5-kernelOC.tbz2 to /data/UrukUpdate

4. Finish upgrade -- reboot

:D
[Gen8 Android Development] jackson0829:
I got same trouble as you and I solve the problem by disconnect DC power plug!!

----> I do not know why my A101 always could not booting the UD in case

DC power jack are plug in?? so I only can disconnect DC power plug then

can booting the UD afterward!!
[Gen8 Android Development] steven20052009:
Thank you man. But I didn't plug in the AC charger while I upgrade to 1.5. I don't know why I can upgrade with regular kernel UD 1.5 but I can't upgrade with the OC kernel.

Can someone here help me please. Thank you
[Gen8 Android Development] jakkrith:
@steven20052009 Have you try this step

Create folder /.upgrade

1. copy file UrukDroid-rootfs-update.tgz to /.upgrade/ directory

2. reboot - found update progress bar

3. copy file UrukDroid-1.5-kernelOC.tbz2 to /data/UrukUpdate

4. Finish upgrade -- reboot

Only one problem that I had found --> in UrukConfig still shown "UrukDorid 1.5 RC 1 (10.08.2011)"
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
OC is CPU dependant stuff - it may simply does not work for yours CPU.

Thats OK since you have not upgraded to 1.5 (kernel and system have separate version numbers - UrukConfig shows system version, not kernel)
[Gen8 Android Development] alex2308:
OC Kernel wont boot for me. I updated from 1.5B2 to 1.5 and then applied OC Kernel.
[Gen8 Android Development] steven20052009:
Thank you $aur0n.... the UD 1.5 still great with out OC kernel anyway.
[Gen8 Android Development] gersto:
Very cool! will give this a shot! just a few Qs before i dive in:

Lenn:

Do you know if the instructions you have here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1153522 for getting Uruk 1.0 running with OpenAOS still apply for 1.5? Have you tried it yet? Will i haveto re-add some of the files?

Sauron:

Besides the wifi issue a few have already noticed is DVB working as far as you know, also will the Cinema plugin still work like in 1.0 as long as i have it installed in the Archos Stock ROM?
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
DVB should work - but with card's being natively supported by 2.6.29 kernel, for other it's unknown.

CinemaPlugin is part of original Archos FW and as 1.5 has 2.3.81 guts I guess it won't work "for free" - I have bought this plug-in as soon as I got device - so it's kind of "not my trouble" :)

ps. With OpenAOS (even if it will work) you will probably miss one of most neat features of Uruk 1.1/1.5 - backup/restore function of RescueMenu.
[Gen8 Android Development] gersto:
Oh sorry NO i wasn't asking if you hacked it so i don't need the plugin! I bought it a few weeks after i got the tablet and loaded it under the Archos Stock firmware. I know as long as i load it there the videos play fine in UD 1.0. That was what i was wondering with UD 1.5 :)

I forgot you have a backup/restore system now as part of UD since you started working on 1.1... would be nice to backup/restore the system.

Thanks for the info! I'll let ya know if i find any issues as well!

Great Job!
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
It's not really any hacking (or more precise it would be cracking) - Archos made this plugin available for free 2 times already (on some firmwares) - it's probably by mistake - so it's "for free" on Uruk 1.0 (which has Archos 2.3.2 - as I remember correctly - this firmware had unlocked AC3 plugin).

Anyway on 1.5 it's not "for free" - but it's working like it should.
[Gen8 Android Development] blawoef:
Hi $auron - thanks and cheers for UD 1.5 - it's GREAT. One question: is the OC kernel the same as the final plain vanilla, except for only the CPU freqs possible?

Do we install it by putting it in UrukUpdate folder?

By the way, I had some trouble upgrading from 1.0. I put the upgrade pack in UrukUpdate and it went off, but after reboot I saw that it tried to load rootfs UrukDroid 1.0 :8

Could only get it right by doing EasyInstall - repair/reinstall. That went very fine. The system is running and very fast and stable.

Only thing, boot seems very slow. Long on the pulsating Loading.... ..... .... screen.

Could that have to do with what went wrong? Any way to fix or get a log that can tell us more? Thanks!
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
The only difference in OC kernel are cpu frequencies.

Yes.
[Gen8 Android Development] blawoef:
Many thanks - going to try asap. If it fails (as you said to another guy: some CPU's do not like it), how to revert to plain vanilla kernel?
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
I've added answer for this question in FAQ.
[Gen8 Android Development] blawoef:
hi sauron, i cannot get the oc kernel package to take. i put it both in ./upgrade and in data/urukupdate but nothing happens
[Gen8 Android Development] blawoef:
nevermind i extracted and flashed through recov menu... all fine now... (still wonder whether should have worked otherwise)
[Gen8 Android Development] gersto:
Well i got it loaded but had to do a fresh install. No matter what i tried i could not get 1.0 to upgrade to 1.5. Same thing with the OC kernel, UD 1.5 would not upgrade the kernel via the package so i just flashed the kernel directly. So far no issues to speak of. Wifi appears stable, who device appears stable thus far. I haven't tried tweaking the CPU speed so we'll see how high or low i can go. Haven't tried DVB yet. The cinema plugin installed under stock works fine.

One odd thing, not sure if this was expected but, loading UD 1.5 fresh wipes any files that reside within the root directory of the fat32 partition on my device. Had a 4GB Bodhi rootfs file and some other small files, non important really. The folders were left untouched though. It was installed to the internal memory BTW.

Also i couldnt get into the recovery menu via UrukConfig.it would just boot normally. But i could via holding down the vol button on bootup. So far so good. Wifi is working much better than in 1.0. Havent had to reboot yet!

Gonna try booting debian and cyanogenmod images.
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
What exactly did you do, what version of Uruk do you have, please be specific about quoting names (there ARE case sensitive). It's nice you could manage to make it work - but this thread is for helping me fixing things - if it's an error - I should know about it, it it's your mistake - also state it here.
[Gen8 Android Development] blawoef:
You're right. Here's the details:

- I put the package in self made folder ./upgrade. Tried both to make it with terminal emulator and file expert in su mode - both cases, nothing happened

- I put the package in the existing data/UrukUpdate - nothing happened

I was on UD 1.0 with Sibere's v13 OC kernel when trying all of this
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
I should be /.upgrade (its big a difference) - but anyway this is not a way for UrukDroid packages (it was just for one fix)

This should be /data/UrukUpdate (but I guess you've made it right - just wrote without /). This is proper way - but this OC kernel was for 1.5 NOT 1.0 so...?
[Gen8 Android Development] $aur0n:
There is new UrukConfig (thx! Solune!)

http://sauron.pourix.com/UrukDroid/UrukConfig/1.1.2/

- fixed boot to RescueMenu

- reverted back WPA service
[Gen8 Android Development] parkland:
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