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[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
In case some of you aren't following the development forums, nookie froyo (the SD-bootable ROM) is, in my opinion, in a VERY good place now. If you have a class 6 (or maybe even class 4) card, it's very fast and very smooth.

There's little that isn't working now, and the touchscreen lag that scared many of us away earlier is now easily fixed by simply turning the screen off/on once each time you reboot (in addition to turning the setting for haptic feedback off). No screen calibration was required for me.

I'd recommend installing version 0.5.8, not the most recent 0.5.9 (many of us have gotten a "damaged SD card" error when running the latest...it was a small update anyway).

Here's the real kicker: you don't even have to be rooted to run it! Most of us are anyway, but I think that's pretty cool that you can take your nook home from the store and immediately run froyo on it.

nookie froyo thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=883175
[Nook Color General] dhoshman:
Wow you guys are awesome! I was just saying to myself I would give it a try when the kinks are worked out. As soon as I find an answer for my sleep button problem Im mos def trying this out.
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
... In this case, "you guys" = cicada and those helping him. To avoid any confusion, I'm not involved in development, just a very enthusiastic messenger . . .
[Nook Color General] bigted41:
i will definitely have to go get a sd card just for this...

this is all very exciting that there is so much support for this awesome device, can't wait for bluetooth to be fully turned on!
[Nook Color General] volwrath:
Flash is not currently working well on it yet is it? I am awaiting a new microsd to try this on.
[Nook Color General] noodles12:
What are the advantages to Froyo on sd over just rooted 2.1?

I know JIT is on froyo so is it a lot faster? do programs like ezpdf that have limited functionality ( no boomarking) have complete use in froyo?

Looks like i boot from the sd card. Are there any complications of pluggin in my usb and transferring files over or will it ask me to mount like normal? ( I remember there were issues with this on the HD2 that was booting android from sd)

Thanks!
[Nook Color General] Link3737:
Is /media mountable yet?

Sent from my nookcolor
[Nook Color General] Paul22000:
How is Flash?

And anyone tested games yet? (Dungeon Defender, etc) Does it work worse, better, or the same?
[Nook Color General] dmako:
So to be certain I understand, once the Froyo image is on the SD card all I have to do is basically boot and I'm off running Froyo? Then I remove the SD card re-boot and I'm back to stock B&N Nook color?

Wow!
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
Yep!

Flash does work, and it really isn't bad. It'll get better with hardware acceleration, but the site I tried it on, the video was mostly fine. It got a little choppy at points, but really nothing that's a deal-breaker for me.

As for how it's an upgrade (in my opinion) over stock B&N, not only is it the faster, Flash-friendly Froyo we all know and love, you also don't have all the Barnes & Noble hoo-ha to work around. You have:

- direct access to the android settings menu

- native copy/paste

- the status bar is on top and doesn't grow to epic proportions and get cut-off when you raise the LCD density

- an overall stock Android experience

We all have different tastes, so I'm sure some will prefer to hang with stock for a while longer. The nice thing is, you can try Nookie out without changing the stock setup you already have.
[Nook Color General] Paul22000:
No Google apps is a major downer though.

No Gmail, no YouTube?
[Nook Color General] eyecrispy:
@wvcachi -- i'm rooted using auto-nooter on 1.0.0. would I be able to keep that and run froyo off an sd card?

also, is everyone running froyo off a class 6 or 10 microsd? how does it run on a class 4?
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
Google apps are fine, you just have to install them separately. It takes about a minute. Instructions on the Nookie Froyo tips section on nookdevs.

... Though currently, the youtube app doesn't play videos. But they play pretty well on youtube.com in a browser.

Just burn a nookie froyo sd, pop it in, and you're good to go. It really doesn't matter what's on your internal memory.

I'm running on a 4GB class 6 and it's great. It's hardly a top brand, cost $15 at a Tiger Direct store here in Chicago. I imagine it'd be fine on a class 4, maybe even passable on a class 2 (?)...
[Nook Color General] deitiphobia:
So as I understand it, Nookie Froyo takes up an entire SD card even though it only uses 2 Gigs. Any extra space on that card is then lost.

Has there been a workaround for this? Where am I supposed to put my music and movies?

I'm going to give it a try again this afternoon. :)
[Nook Color General] bdjohns1:
The image file that's provided is sized for a 2GB card. If you're comfortable enough with the right programs, there's no reason you can't use a larger card. You just have to load the base filesystem and build the right partition configuration yourself.
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
You can use a program to expand the SD card partition (the part that android actually reads as an sd card) to the rest of your free space. I'm using a 4GB card, and the remainder is now all available for storage.

I used EASEUS on my PC to expand the SD partition (free download, google it). It's extremely easy - just select the partition of your burned nookie froyo sd that says sd card (the 4th I believe), select change size, and drag the bar all the way over.

Others recommend gparted too, but EASEUS worked great for me.
[Nook Color General] ClarkSt:
Awesome news. Is there any new news on Bluetooth? Dying to use my BT headphones and GPS.

I assume we still need to deal with the lack of a Back button, no? Will the Nook button take us to the Home screen?

Thanks!!
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
I haven't been watching the bluetooth thread closely, but it's been unlocked on a developmental level--probably nowhere near user level yet.

You can use softkeys or button saviour just like on the stock ROM. The "n" button is still home. The only difference is the status bar doesn't have back and menu in it.
[Nook Color General] soxfan81:
I have a rooted nook with rom manager and I backed up to my sd. Do need to buy another sd that way I don't lose my backup?
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
Well you could back your SD up onto your desktop and then use it for nookie, but if you have $15 or so to spare, I'd just pick up a new class 6 if I were you. Then you can switch back and forth easily.
[Nook Color General] eyecrispy:
So the NC willow check the SD card for a bootable image first, right? It will I have a choice at boot to choose whether or not I want to boot off sd or main memory?

Sent from my Nook Color
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
It always checks the sd first. If you want to boot off of the internal memory, just remove the nookie sd or put a non-booting sd in.
[Nook Color General] Canadoc:
Youtube works fine. Just update it in market
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
I tried that, and it still gives the video playing error. Are you on 0.5.8 or 0.5.9?
[Nook Color General] bartimeus:
If I have one of the custom kernels flashed will I need to flash to the stock kernel? or does nookie froyo even touch that?
[Nook Color General] paleh0rse:
Isn't B&N set to officially release Froyo for NC this month? If so, how difficult is it for the dev gurus around here to root 2.2 these days?

(I'm an Android noob, sorry :))

Sent from my Nooted friend...
[Nook Color General] soxfan81:
Anyone getting damaged sd card?
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
Did you burn the Nookie image onto the card while it was in the Nook? Because you'll need to use an SD card reader (or possibly an Android phone).
[Nook Color General] soxfan81:
No I have a reader that I inserted into a media drive. I am using a 8gb san disk not sure of the class. Just looked at costco site and I think it's 2.
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
I've seen it mentioned in other threads, but haven't had the issue myself. Maybe it's because it's a class 2? You could always try reformatting the SD and burning it again . . .
[Nook Color General] notinterested:
Pretty much unusable on my cheapo class 2 card. I do look forward to a proper rom though my only hope is that someone can at least port the internal ebook reader to it or i wont use it. Sticking with this crippled version is worth it to me to keep it. The ebook readers on the market do not even come close to the one build into the nook.
[Nook Color General] compuguy1088:
Nookie froyo is pretty stable, minus some issues with the audio subsystem not being fully implemented, as well as a lack of video acceleration.
[Nook Color General] rabid_droid:
Sorry, don't mean to thread carp, OP...

But ezPDF does have bookmarking (in 2.1). Not sure what version you're using, but I'm currently on 1.0.13.0 (purchased from Market but it's NOT the latest version).

I will say though that the little bookmark icon is very, very difficult to select on the NC, which may be why you think bookmarking doesn't work. Once you select it though, the page scroll bar gets replaced by another scroll bar where you can add/delete bookmarks and view all of your previously bookmarked pages.
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
I don't even know what thread carping is, but it sounds pretty cool. Carp away.

I couldn't get ezPDF bookmarks to work on the stock ROM, but I just tested on nookie, and it works perfectly. I have my LCD density set to 240, so its much bigger (even that didn't help on stock).
[Nook Color General] Canadoc:
.5.8

try clearing the cache for it using titanium backup
[Nook Color General] Canadoc:
which launcher u using at that density?

find that the words under icons get cut off in landscape ode with adw with any denisty above 180
[Nook Color General] theyownus:
Just map the volume up and down keys to back and menu. The instructions are on nookdevs site. Makes the nc so much more user friendly.
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
Tried all of that. From what I've read, youtube not playing is a pretty common known bug with nookie.... I'd love to hear any other details you can think of about your setup that could be contributing to yours working. ... I doubt it'd be your SD, but if you have a certain brand or a class 10 or something, that could be relevant info too.

I'm using adw ex. I guess the 2-line icon labels get smushed a little bit in landscape mode, but nothing that bothers me.
[Nook Color General] Canadoc:
using class 4 card. Not sure i just updated from market and it worked.

mine the icon ext basically is hidden when going to high (>180) number lcd density. is there a setting for font size for that?
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
No, pretty standard setup here. Have you tried 240? Maybe there's a range between 180-240 that gets weird, but then it gets better?

By the way, I decided to unroot the stock ROM last night, and am now running nookie froyo on an unrooted NookColor :P
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
Agreed, the stock Nook Reader app has a long way to go to meet the features and usability of many of the programs on the market.

;)
[Nook Color General] wiobyrne:
market on nookie froyo

First of all....wvcachi et al., thanks for bringing this discussion about Nookie Froyo over here to give a chance to debrief everyone.

I tried out Nookie Froyo a week ago (albeit on a 2 GB SanDisk card), and the thing that I couldn't figure out was how to get the Market working. I have a Mac and have had issues getting ADB set-up for use on the NC and my Incredible, so I've pretty much given up on that.

Will I need to use ADB to install the market, apps, etc.? Or is there something I was doing wrong in stopping me from seeing this.

I put the extra time into polishing up my rooted version, but would rather spend the time getting froyo to run smoothly on this.

Thanks in advance for your guidance.

-Ian
[Nook Color General] bassrebel:
I have a class 2 8gb Card, and I was able to boot it, but pretty unusable, I couldn't even get the Wifi to work. Does the wifi working or not depends on the SD Card? I also got the SD Card error message
[Nook Color General] hahyun6:
Sd Card

What is the recommended class for micro SD cards? I have a 4 gig class 4 just lying around, would that work for NF?
[Nook Color General] Canadoc:
Am I the only one who can't get mp3 songs to play. Keep getting error or failure message. Same one works fine on 2.1
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
No, you don't have to use ADB, but you need to somehow get the GApps contents into the /system

I suspect adb is probably going to be the way to do that, although if the Nookie Froyo comes preinstalled with some way to get the zip into the device and unzip it to the right place, then you could do it without adb.
[Nook Color General] wiobyrne:
That's what I was thinking. If I had a way to reboot and install zip files, I would be able to start piecing together a system. I think my inability to get ADB running will preclude me from having any Froyo goodness until it is a little more streamlined.

Thanks.
[Nook Color General] 911jason:
Not trying to be overly obvious, but did you try WirelessADB from the market? Worked like a charm for me.
[Nook Color General] wiobyrne:
I tried it out earlier but couldn't get into the NC. I did some searching and it seems from looking at the Nookdevs page that there are some issues with ADB, Macs, and the nook color.

I think it's just operator error...
[Nook Color General] eyecrispy:
I do all my stuff on a macbook pro and haven't had any issues with adb and the NC.
[Nook Color General] wiobyrne:
Hey, I don't want to hijack this thread...but could you send me a link or two as to how to set this up and get it running? I've been through most of the tutorials available on XDA and elsewhere...and think all I've done is confuse myself.

I believe I have the SDK installed, running, and updated...just can't get it to connect.

Thanks in advance...
[Nook Color General] hahyun6:
Bump*? Character 10
[Nook Color General] HotShotAzn:
People have ran it using a Class 2, it just runs slower. There's no min req for it to work.
[Nook Color General] Canadoc:
Running it on class 4 and it works fine speedwise.
[Nook Color General] deitiphobia:
Trouble installing Flash on Nookie Froyo

I still haven't been able to get Flash installed. Can anyone link to instructions on how to get flash working?

I've tried downloading the .apk and it won't of course because I need SD card to download from web. I also tried ADB pushing it over to /system/app and I can't find it in my apps list still.

What am I doing wrong???

Oh and is there a tutorial anywhere on how to get the unused portion of my SD card working so all that space isn't going to waste?

Thanks
[Nook Color General] mattphoner:
I don't think it will show up in an apps list, i think it willbe there, but you won't directly open the "Flash" application. It will likely show up in Titanium Backup as well as under Manage Applications though. Hope this helps.
[Nook Color General] deitiphobia:
Your right. It's there and working, just not showing up in the apps folder as I expected it too.
[Nook Color General] deitiphobia:
I finally figured out how to do this. I downloaded a Gparted iso then burned it to CD. Then rebooted computer into Gparted and used it to resize the SD Card (4th) partition.

Now I'm trying to figure out how to get programs like my podcasting program and browsers to see the SD Card. I can't download from the web as it won't detect the SD card and Doggcatcher won't work as it doesn't recognize SD card either.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[Nook Color General] Canadoc:
While it might be close to ready, some core functionality seems broken, for me at least:

1) No working youtube app (have hq woking youtube on 2.1)

2) mp3's won't play for me

3)no hardware acceleration of video so flash though it works is not ready for prime time

4)Not sure why certain cell radio images/functions can't be removed. Hate seeing the sill no service icon and text.

When these things get fixed this will be an awesome device for the money as everything else so far seems improved.
[Nook Color General] tarheeldan:
Internal Storage files - where are they?

This is a bit embarrasing. I can't find any of the files on my internal storage through Astro File manager, and my music player certainly doesn't "see" my mp3's. Anyone know why that might be and how I can fix it?

I'd been using my NC as an mp3 player (yeah, kind of an oversized one) in my car before putting on Froyo and I'd like to be able to do so again. I know, I could just boot without the SD card into the BN jazz, but...that's not as cool.
[Nook Color General] hahyun6:
You could access in the root/emmec the internal files, and about mp3s from internal, I suggest you use poweramp or something.
[Nook Color General] deitiphobia:
How to get SD card recognized by apps when using Nookie Froyo

Yes this happened to me. First boot of latest version of Nookie Froyo and it said I had a damaged SD card. So I quick formated the card and burned the image to the card again. Still same damaged SD card error.

I then created an image of my SD Card to my hard drive. I then used that image and copied it to a larger SD card. Amazingly everything transferred to the larger SD card and booted just fine. The kicker is that I'm still getting the Damaged SD Card error now with the new SD card!

Otherwise things seem to work great.

I've also been asking around without a clear answer yet:

I've got a 16 Gig SD card that I'm using for Nookie Froyo. I used Gparted to increase the size of the 4th partition (SD Card). So now I theoretically have like 14 Gigs on the SD Card. Problem is that none of my programs recognize that I have SD card. Web browsers won't download files and neither will podcasting program. They both want an SD card and aren't finding it.

How can I make it so my programs can recognize and use the SD Card space that I have?
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
The sd error is only in 0.5.9. Switching back to 0.5.8 should give everything access to the sd.
[Nook Color General] tarheeldan:
Thanks! My /root folder is showing up empty in Astro though - is it because it's not set as r/w or something?

*EDIT* Could it be because I have autonooter on the hard drive and there's a conflict? Should I do a factory reset, then use a freshly imaged 0.5.8 SD card for this to work?

Other than this issue I'm with the OP, this is pretty usable once google apps are installed and some settings are tweaked for responsiveness. Here's hoping for bluetooth and FM radio sometime :)
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
PowerAmp would work as well as any other I suppose.... Except that it doesn't work at all.
[Nook Color General] Homer_S_xda:
See these two posts in the dev forum for the fix.

Replace File

Set Permissions

Homer
[Nook Color General] majakat:
How can you tell the class of the micro sd?

I used this one to do the initial root, how do I know the class of the card?

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[Nook Color General] Zuhkov:
You'll notice that it says microSD and not microSDHC. Class ratings are for SDHC cards (regular-sized, mini, and micro). Non-SDHC cards typically aren't that fast, but that doesn't mean it's slower than say a class 2. Only way to know for sure would be to test read and write speeds.
[Nook Color General] georgia_tech_swagger:
A few questions then to clear up my confusion:

1) Autonooker merely unlocks full Android, and does not upgrade to 2.2, correct?

2) Has anybody gotten ad-hoc mode working on Wifi? I'd like to tether to my rooted Droid when on the go. (I would search for this... but search is down. Frowny face. I would imagine it would HAVE to be a simple matter of using a non-neutered driver instead of the stock?)

3) Is there some sort of smooth upgrade path for people who autonook? One of the things I love most about rooted Droid is if you get a major ROM you have a smooth upgrade path.

4) Last and MOST dangerous .... trickle charge when connected to a computer? That's probably wishful thinking.
[Nook Color General] inferniac90:
1 yes (not exactly full, but almost)

2 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=872521

3. dunno ;)

4. It does charge, but really slow, I don't think anything can be done about this, since Nook chargers current is 1.9A and maximum of computers USB is 0.9A
[Nook Color General] thisisjjd:
I'd like to give my opinion that Nookie Froyo still isn't quite ready for ordinary people to use.

Before I do that, I'd like to give mad props to the people who have developed it. It is a great advance and I'd like to thank you.

But for me, with an 8GB class-6 SDHC card, the performance just isn't there. The fixes for the screen lag do visibly help, but it's still slow in responding.

And every other operation is slower, presumably because of the difference in SDHC response time vs. RAM.

I've had stability issues. Not sure what has caused them, but I often get background processes getting errors and having to be forced closed.

And the market is a bit tricky. I've used both fingerprint strings posted at nookdevs and still can't find many of the apps I want to use. Example: Twidroyd Pro, Speed Test.

And it seems to have problems with codecs. I can't get it to play any of the MP3 files I've loaded (complains about the files being unplayable) or display any of the JPG files I've put on the /sdcard.

So while I think it is a great project and there's been great progress, and as much as I'd like a vanilla android experience, I don't want people to think that it "all just works" yet. You would have to enjoy debugging and living on the bleeding edge.

At least that's my 2c.
[Nook Color General] thisisjjd:
I'd like to back off on this point -- apparently I missed one of the two steps in clearing the data in the Market after changing the fingerprint.

After I redid this correctly, both these apps show up in the market now.
[Nook Color General] fixitsteve:
16GB Class 10 Cards...

Just as a reference, some people are having serious issues with 16GB Class 10 cards. My Patriot is a no go. Adata also seems to be a no-go. Instability and freezing ultimately resulting in Android_ at boot forever...

The sweet spot so far seems to be 16GB Class 6 cards or 8GB Class 6 cards...
[Nook Color General] ChrisJ951:
I suggest anyone who finds froyo usable enough for them (i.e. compatibility as any speed issues will be due to your SD card from what I can tell) to dual boot it. There's a thread in the developers forums with a script to do it for you making it incredibly easy for even non tech savvy people.
[Nook Color General] Thibor69:
Just wanted to add my "WinTech FileMate" 16GIG Class 10 also fails at teh same point.

SUCKS !
[Nook Color General] fixitsteve:
I can't post in the development area, but I think that this might be a partitioning thing. I receive an error when creating the partition for extra space on the 16G Class 10 card. Something about the sectors being incompatible. Makes me think that the makepart.sh script is not designed for 16GB class 10 cards. I am running a 8GB class 4 card right now with zero issues (except that it is slow). No errors came up when partitioning the extra space. My Patriot 16GB class 10 boots fine the first time, then fails after running the makepart.sh. I will try this again and post the actual error. I will also try and use something like <parted> to partition the cards free space without using the script.