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[Fascinate Android Development] youthforlinux:
Hey Kaos,

I'm a C++,Java developer, and also a Linux Sys Admin. I've had a D1 till recently, when I decided to upgrade to the Fascinate. I really miss CM7 on my Droid, and it would be amazing to have a working version for the Fascinate, and I was wondering if it'd be possible for me to help in any way in your efforts?
[Fascinate Android Development] ivorycruncher:
Thanks for clarifying. It sounded to me like you wanted to compare Quadrant scores between GB on the Droid X and GB on the Fascinate. I too would love to see benchmark comparison between debloated OEM Froyo and CM7 GB.

Sent from XDA Premium on my Super Clean Fascinate
[Fascinate Android Development] mustangforlife23:
Wow can we say ghost town in here
[Fascinate Android Development] sunder74:
Yeah his twitter has been quiet also. But these things take time not to mention having a life lol.
[Fascinate Android Development] iofthestorm:
Uh, considering there's usually a page added to the thread each day, and Kaos chimes in every few pages, not sure why this is a ghost town. Patience people. I think Kaos is helping the thunderbolt folks out (seems like every dev on Verizon got a thunderbolt lol) but I'm confident he'll bust something out eventually.

I wish people would stop posting about how impatient they are, and only post if something actually changes.
[Fascinate Android Development] jkat797:
+1 agreed
[Fascinate Android Development] navenedrob:
Do you have an updated version you can send to me, kaos? I can possibly get MMS working with some experimentation, but I'd want to have your latest compilation to do that.
[Fascinate Android Development] Chuban7:
You should try fixing mms on MIUI
[Fascinate Android Development] mustangforlife23:
Impatient? Are u kidding me? I simply said ghost town bc no activity on this tread in about 2 days! So get the facts straight before goin overboard..so stop ranting on about something that does nothin with patience..ive been following this thread for months thanks
[Fascinate Android Development] f100cleveland:
I'd also like to give his latest version a try.
[Fascinate Android Development] mustangforlife23:
He will not give u an updated rom till he posts v6 so u have to make due with v5
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
Hey navenedrob, you should also take a look at vanilla froyo. The mms is broken there too.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
He's not asking for v6... he's offering to help kaos by asking him to send what he's got so far, and nave will try to help kaos nail down the messaging issue.

Another Fascinating post by my XDA app...
[Fascinate Android Development] zskate311:
Hey just wanted to say great work so far Kaos. Hope to see something new soon! :)

Sent from my fascination with voodoo
[Fascinate Android Development] tmlhodge:
Tried v5 out of curiosity and its awesome, when this rom is more functional it'll be my dd
[Fascinate Android Development] Mean Sixteen:
+1 here.

The wait is killing me.

In no way do I mean to rush. I am just so excited to get this as my daily driver.

Kaos...you are the man and I will wait as long as I have to. (But can we have it completed/posted tonight? ;-) )

Sent through mental telepathy
[Fascinate Android Development] jkat797:
Im exited too! Kaos take all the time u need
[Fascinate Android Development] zskate311:
Those sensors must be being quite a pain to figure out. Wish I knew how to help.

Thanks again Kaos

Sent from my fascination with voodoo
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
They're friggin driving me nuts :)

They don't want to act sanely, and they jump around enough that Android marks them as inaccurate and refuses to use them :/

I'll very likely move on to some of the other hardware in the next day or so if I don't get that sorted, so at least I move somewhat forwards :P
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
Good to hear you're still plugging away at it. TAKE YOUR TIME BRO! We're not going anywhere. Thanks for your perseverance.
[Fascinate Android Development] DroiDAddicT14:
That's awesome! Juss keep us up to date and take however long you need! :) my friend and I look like crack addicts in public, scratching our necks, waiting for this ROM but its all good, worth the wait :) Lmao!!

"Tonight is the night....and it's going to happen again and again..." -Dexter-
[Fascinate Android Development] upsidedownaaron:
did you hear about the pirate who walked into the bar with a ship's steering wheel coming out of the front of his pants?

he said, "its drivin' me nuts".

ya, that just happened.
[Fascinate Android Development] CGriffiths86:
Did we just become best friends? Do you want to do karate in the garage?
[Fascinate Android Development] suppliesidejesus:
YUP.

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[Fascinate Android Development] Kevin Gossett:
The version you should tell your friends:

"A pirate walks into a bar, with a steering wheel in his pants, and orders a beer. The bartender pours him a cold one and says 'I can't help but notice you've got a steering wheel in your pants...' The pirate responds, 'arrr, it's driving me nuts!"
[Fascinate Android Development] upsidedownaaron:
trying to be brief for the short attention span theater. :D
[Fascinate Android Development] DaleV:
I can't wait for thus to be done, but with kaoa putting this much time and energy into it, this should be an amazing thing for us. Since I don't have anywhere near the necessary skills I will try my best to wait patiently for this. Should be EPIC.
[Fascinate Android Development] SeatownGST:
I wonder if there will be new source material available to port, or if the devices are to dis-similar. I further wonder if among the three (Google, Samsung, Verizon) we'll get some real source material for folks to work with.... or is the phone abandoned!
[Fascinate Android Development] 4GivenByChrist:
When done it will be Legen - wait for it - DARY!!! LOL
[Fascinate Android Development] rivaaaa253:
Doubting the integrety of this project... can't say the wait isn't bumming me.. and I swear if anyone flames this that means you COMPLETLY disagree.. thank you..
[Fascinate Android Development] Neuman.Tim:
LOL! love HIMYM :)
[Fascinate Android Development] Crashspeeder:
Everybody's bummed that they have to wait but it will be worth the wait. I'm not sure I follow on your integrity comment, though. If you mean you're not sure if it will be released, Kaos has assured us he's still working on it.

He's not only working on making this work but also cleaning it up for inclusion in CyanogenMod. That's no small feat and I can't understate the importance of that. Once it's included as an official CM version we'll see development happen in parallel to CM and we'll see new features as new CM versions come out.

Hang tight, it'll come. And if it doesn't you still got a taste of GB (Kaos v5) before almost any other device
[Fascinate Android Development] Hatespawn:
+ over 9000!
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
Go code it yourself then. This phone is quite difficult to dev for and that means that its taking a while. That combined with that fact that I have a demanding job means that things don't come out instantly. Its still being worked on, it'll still get released when its in a functional state.
[Fascinate Android Development] DroiDAddicT14:
How about stfu and gfys. If you don't wanna wait, get a different phone and quit pissin everyone off

"Tonight is the night....and it's going to happen again and again..." -Dexter-
[Fascinate Android Development] uslacson1:
Please excuse people who have no idea what you have done for the community.

I'm patiently waiting and thankful for all your contributions.

Much respect Sir.
[Fascinate Android Development] DroiDAddicT14:
Kaos don't listen to that guy. there's like, a 1000 other people (including me haha) who are grateful for what you're doing and won't take this project for granted at all when it is finished. Take your time and keep in touch, that's all I ask :)

"Tonight is the night....and it's going to happen again and again..." -Dexter-
[Fascinate Android Development] jearl75:
There's WAY MORE than 1000! Kaos is the man, and it will be well worth the wait!
[Fascinate Android Development] bobloblaw1:
Damn. I swear....some people.

Kaos you did great work on the eris and I appreciate everything you are doing for the fascinate. Those of us with a maturity level higher than a 12 year-old entitled brat realize that real life obligations come first.

Any way thanks again and I hope the jerks on this board don't sour you on the entire project.
[Fascinate Android Development] Kaze105:
Dont worry about him kaos, all his posts from previous seems like he doesnt even know anything. (almost all his posts are more like questions)
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
Hey kaos, please forgive that guy. There is always someone who has an ungrateful attitude and a skewed perspective of truth and logic. We all know you are working hard and it is difficult to dev this phone. We also know you have things in your life that are much greater priority than this. I think I speak for everyone except that guy when I say take your time and we will take what you give us and say thank you. I think we all would like to see you throw an occasional tweet out there to let us know your status but if not, we still support you. Thanks again for doing what we can't. :)
[Fascinate Android Development] FDro:
Stop feeding the troll. He made a stupid comment and let that be the end of it.

I'm patiently waiting. Quality>quantity/speediness.
[Fascinate Android Development] Jmatch:
Kaos that guys a bum dont listen were all waiting(:
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
As if I haven't said it enough, THANK YOU KAOS, trolls be warned, I will find you. And I will release (something very big and mean that we haven't decided on) .
[Fascinate Android Development] 4GivenByChrist:
What we have is the poster children of Entitlement instead of anticipation. Sadly it is a signature of modern culture...
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Get ivorycruncher to release his "Minotaur" ;-)

Another Fascinating post by my XDA app...
[Fascinate Android Development] hbc.ciccone:
Its amazing that so many people are telling you "its ok, we'll wait." Obviously everyone will wait for it if they want it, and im pretty sure he knows he can take his time...i mean it is his time...
[Fascinate Android Development] SeatownGST:
Kaos and crew are the only reason this phone even WORKS. Kiddos these days need to be told the "don't look a gift horse in the mouth" phrase.

Google/Verizon/Samsung have abandoned us where XDA has not. Everyone needs to STFU and direct internet rage where it's appropriate - and towards XDA is not appropriate.
[Fascinate Android Development] boostedjti:
Kaos could always release another alpha with more bugs than the first like the epic cm team did. Mind you there's was merely a stunt to shut people up but still...

On another note, glad to see you're still going at it!
[Fascinate Android Development] rivaaaa253:
Didntt realize everyone would go BIZEERK xD I'm sorry I offended you?? But how passianate can you be about one comment?? :P I understand how good he's been doin but still I'm bummed, say what you wantt I guess?? No half ass flames tho, try to actualy humiliate me please :)
[Fascinate Android Development] gfosco:
I wish this thread would just die until there is an actual update.
[Fascinate Android Development] rivaaaa253:
+1
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
I just wish impatient ass holes would quit posting pointless rants about how they expect for something to be "given" to them. Maybe if you want it so bad you should donate to him enough so he can quit his day job and work only on this rom. If not shut up and wait. And maybe show some encouragement.
[Fascinate Android Development] rivaaaa253:
And I wish over assuming assholes decide to shut ut when they don't know what there doing, I appreciate his work and bummed its not here, DA FLAMER GOT FLAMEDD!
[Fascinate Android Development] ace5198:
good to hear!! im sure it will be unbelievable when it is released!!! please ignore the duschebags andd keep up the great work! who cares how long it takes
[Fascinate Android Development] suppliesidejesus:
If the dev of a project that you are being a **** about flames you, then that probably means that you are the asshole, not everyone else.

Keep on keepin' on, Kaos. You are a champ.
[Fascinate Android Development] DroidBlaze:
Exactly... Kaos thanks for all your hard work I will patiently be waiting your next release whenever that is :D
[Fascinate Android Development] dmasjz45:
Everyone needs to relax, true devs like kaos love a challenge and don't quit, and that's why he's still here and working on it...when he has something stable it will be here, go find a hobby for the mean all you little whiny punks
[Fascinate Android Development] kuronosan:
LEIK OMG IM SO SORRY U USAN ALL UR TEIM 2 MAK MY FONZ BETTAH TANK YOO BUT YOO TAKAN 2 LONG DUN DISAGREE LAWL

Good job, folks. Whine about something that is not only free but is something you aren't even putting any work or money into.
[Fascinate Android Development] sunder74:
The android community has changed so much since the G1 and a guy named Steve gave us a pony with the tag Cyanogen on it...so many cry about no update this no news that...Well get to a Linux terminal and crank out an update then...oh wait you can't or you would have.

This is a very difficult device with a semi working recovery with no support from the manufacturer or carrier. Be patient and supportive. If you have some helpful input hit him up on twitter or irc. But please don't be ungrateful or disrespectful.
[Fascinate Android Development] rivaaaa253:
I love his work.. I never said I didn't, and I'm glad this truck keeps on truckin, be real people :)
[Fascinate Android Development] robsch:
Sadly, no truer words have been spoken about the state the next generation.

On to the praises of punk.kaos, and the rest of the devs. We all appricate everything you are currently doing and have done.

Without your hard work and support the fascinate wouldnt be half the device it has become.

Real life comes first, so do what you have/need/want to.... I don't think any of us mind waiting for the next level of fascinate goodness.
[Fascinate Android Development] tmlhodge:
Real new man, real new
[Fascinate Android Development] mzrdisi:
I'm quite surprised that XDA just doesn't start banning people immediately after the comment or PM warning. I've not been around long, mostly lurk, and it's amazing to see how many ungrateful people there are on here.

(Of course 95% of them are probably trolls, anyway)
[Fascinate Android Development] theGross1:
No offense to anyone, but all this crap is cluttering up this thread and doesn't pertain to development at all. With that said, I love punk.kaos
[Fascinate Android Development] rivaaaa253:
Agreed ( +1 )
[Fascinate Android Development] iofthestorm:
Ugh, do you realize that your post is cluttering the thread too? What does it add? There's a thanks button for a reason...

That said, now this post is cluttering the thread too, but I wish people would stop posting both the "OMFG this thing is never coming out kaos|adryanalyn|jt|birdman|x|y|z has abandoned us" and the "stfu noob x has done so much for us" posts. The overreaction to one jerk's ungrateful post is probably worse than the original crappy post. I got excited when I saw two new pages of the thread until I realized it was two more pages of useless bickering.
[Fascinate Android Development] piiman:
oh the irony! LOL
[Fascinate Android Development] tmlhodge:
Maybe kaos should start another thread and get ashasaur to lock it so nobody can post.
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
Good idea! Agreed!
[Fascinate Android Development] ataranine:
Or maybe this thread should be locked until Kaos has an update..
[Fascinate Android Development] gotsflat4love:
+100000000000

Tired of people...
[Fascinate Android Development] chefthomas99:
I release the Kraken!
[Fascinate Android Development] Spaniard85:
THIS ftw.

In the meantime, I went ahead and flashed v5 since my Fascinate is no longer my daily driver. All bugs aside, this is easily the smoothest running build I've ever had on my phone.
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
Yeah, what does work works AWESOME. Its just not fully working :P
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
Thanks for not giving up man, I know this phone is a pain.
[Fascinate Android Development] jkat797:
+1. Thanks alot kaos!
[Fascinate Android Development] dandog96:
I second that but why no twitter updates in a while?
[Fascinate Android Development] TheHobbyist:
I think you are doing it wrong man, his recent twitter explains that he is helping his work recover from a server crash this week...
[Fascinate Android Development] dandog96:
Thats weird I mustve accidentally unsubscribed to him...
[Fascinate Android Development] rivaaaa253:
Is punk.kaos involved with the community ROM that adrynalyne was talking about?? Anyone have any idea?? I think lil bits of gingerbread would be nice to have in an assumingly soon to be awesome coummunity rom :)
[Fascinate Android Development] ivorycruncher:
Um, huh? Is my Twitter broke or something? I just checked, and I'm still following him, but I don't see any such tweet from him.

Sent from XDA Premium on my Super Clean Fascinate
[Fascinate Android Development] dandog96:
It was a reply to a guys questoin. Thats why it didnt show as an actual tweet. Am I making sense?
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
I think the community rom is something that adrynalyne is working on with ThatDudeButch. They have developed and are continuing devlopment on a rom for the thunderbolt called "Das BAMF". I think we will get a similar fascinate version. Of course this is just my opinion and I could be wrong. Whatever it is, I'm just glad they are still with us. Thanks adryn!
[Fascinate Android Development] tripacer99:
For some reason, using the old twitter layout doesn't show certain tweets. Switch to the new twitter layout and see if that solves it
[Fascinate Android Development] ivorycruncher:
I am using the new layout. I've double-checked the main website and the twitter feeds on my phone, including the official twitter app. No tweets from kaos since March 30th. :eek:

Any other ideas? :confused:

EDIT: Ah, I figured it out. The tweets I've been missing have been directed at specific twitter accounts, ones that I don't follow, so they don't show up in my feed. Just found them by pulling up kaos's entire tweet list. My fault for being a twitter n00b I guess. :o
[Fascinate Android Development] Crashspeeder:
You're probably looking at your timeline. If you want to see when he replies to someone else's tweets you need to watch his timeline.
[Fascinate Android Development] AlexDeGruven:
There's also an option in your settings called something like 'show all @replies' or similar. The web client auto-hides @replies that are not to you unless you wish to see them all.
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
Learn something new every day. I actually didn't know that :)
[Fascinate Android Development] ivorycruncher:
Sorry for dragging this out, but I can't find any such option in my settings on the twitter website. Where is that setting at?
[Fascinate Android Development] AlexDeGruven:
I suppose I should have researched this before saying something, since I now can't find that option.

Maybe it's set that way automatically now, but I know you used to be able to turn that on and off. Been a long time since I've actually been in the web client, let alone the settings area.
[Fascinate Android Development] Legato525:
Can someone who follows pk on twitter just let us know if progress seems good, bad, or indifferent. Sometimes my hatred of social networking is a disability. :)
[Fascinate Android Development] fortesquieu:
http://twitter.com/punkkaos

Here.
[Fascinate Android Development] Legato525:
Sweet, my apologies, I did not know you could follow a feed without an account. Thanks so much.
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
ok, well looks like source has been released for the fascinate. cant wait for you to get your hands dirty Kaos. thanks again
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
FYI gingerbread junkies, kaos just tweeted that he is downloading the new fascinate source code.
[Fascinate Android Development] fortesquieu:
deleted!!!!
[Fascinate Android Development] bigtlt:
I know its probably too early to say. But could source dropping mean potential for official supported cm7? Because that would be awesome. And of course I'd want Kaos to get some credit.

OTB'd CM6 FTW
[Fascinate Android Development] solido888:
How I understand it:

The source just released is froyo (2.2). It may provide PK help on this rom which is CM7(2.3) based. If CM7 for fascinate ever becomes official, it will be (mostly) because of the work PK has done here, and I am quite sure he will receive the lion's share of the credit. I believe he has stated that he would like to see it merge with the official cm7 tree, and that he would maintain it, but I can't be arsed to find that post.
[Fascinate Android Development] DirgeExtinction:
Can't wait to try out some GB goodness. I miss CM from my Droid days.
[Fascinate Android Development] times_infinity:
He'll probably only be able to get it up to where he had CM6. We dont have what we need to fix mms and such afaik.
[Fascinate Android Development] rivaaaa253:
Why can't we add in a froyo mms.apk?? Is that possible to just kinda fake it y'knowww??
[Fascinate Android Development] bwheelies:
running premium
[Fascinate Android Development] sohead:
Will getting the 2.2 sammi source help PK in any way with the Fascinate sensor challenges that he ran into?
[Fascinate Android Development] Spaniard85:
More than likely.
[Fascinate Android Development] CrucialBT:
I was under the impression that the sensor source wasn't much different than the mesmorize's.
[Fascinate Android Development] Crashspeeder:
JT said the changes between the official froyo and EC10 were minor and wouldn't help much. No changes were made to the sensors.
[Fascinate Android Development] times_infinity:
It's not the apk that's the problem. It's the way samsung implemented mms and bt into the frameworks.
[Fascinate Android Development] eshu68:
Just moving this thread back to the top (where it belongs)...! Waiting for CM7 patiently !! Thanks kaos !!
[Fascinate Android Development] fortesquieu:
Europe has Gingerbread already =(

They even have the source codes lol
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
I love your work Kaos, how is it coming along?
[Fascinate Android Development] kamileon:
Samsung released the GB source code for the I9000. Any chance this will help. I know, I know, differ phone, hardware, etc, etc...but I figured every little bet helps....
[Fascinate Android Development] Jrex:
Probably not! Sorry... :(
[Fascinate Android Development] sunder74:
Official froyo start rolling out tomorrow :-D...may have what we need let's hope.

http://support.vzw.com/system_update/samsung_fascinate.html

*edited for correct link*
[Fascinate Android Development] fortesquieu:
Somehow most of the news are being taken off.
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
Ok, I just read this and unless I am completely blind, I don't anything about froyo. But I could have missed it. Anyone care to enlighten me?
[Fascinate Android Development] sunder74:
Sorry wrong link lol....

http://support.vzw.com/system_update/samsung_fascinate.html
[Fascinate Android Development] jorge3687:
wow, is this for real??
[Fascinate Android Development] sunder74:
Haha yeah or a late aprils fool joke by Big Red.
[Fascinate Android Development] SeatownGST:
haha apparently so. there's PDFs and everything! lol

it's probably got 54 terabytes of bloat, and why it took so long
[Fascinate Android Development] ilprobu2:
Pdf says froyo .. I dont want it now too late..
[Fascinate Android Development] sunder74:
Hopefully amid the bloat there is something useful.
[Fascinate Android Development] DirgeExtinction:
I read the build is ED01...

We have that already. :/
[Fascinate Android Development] Spaniard85:
Indeed it is. Glad to see it rolling out to stock users though. This phone needed froyo BAD.

Sent from my THUNDERBOLT