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[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Uh...actually my DesireHD7 is off and unused and has been for the last 2 or so weeks. My HD2 is fullfilling all my needs effectively right now and is a love affair due to DesireHD Android. As far as I understand, the hardware between the two phones is essentially the same. I don't see it taking very long at all getting Android going on it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Actually, Android on the HD2 is a lot better than an actual Android phone. I can have any Android ROM I desire on my HD2, and eventually my HD7, that I want. It is never boring with the HD2. It is actually the absolute best Android phone ever made. I wouldn't really much care for an actual Android phone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] zukа:
Okay. How's that relevant to Windows Phone 7?
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
The fact that MS has screwed us all on our adoption of WP7. We have to punish them and teach them they are not the father and mother of us all and they will do what we, the customers, want. Otherwise they will just continue to ignore us.

The main thing is, the OP shouldn't expect anything in the way of an update. MS has made it clear thet are not going to be giving us what we want. They are going to conduct their business without regard to the will of their customers. I simply stated the case of what is up with the Jan. update and that the OP would be better off planning other options for his WP7 device.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
So release a new version of the same failed os regardless of functionality or the like 1 percent of phone users who are tech geeks won't buy... And? If you want to continue wishing for Android on it well... I admire the futility

its not called a desirehd7 the desire is a completely different branch in the HTC line. A lesser branch.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Nothing official ever said January. Just a blogger with some "connections". The official word is 60-90 days from now.

Mango in Aug/Sep.

Interesting

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=906989
[Windows Phone 7 General] Reflexx1:
I thought the official word was 30-60 days from CES. At least for the first copy/paste update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
30-60 days from CES for carriers. Correct. 60-90 days for it to reach users.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Please don't be confused with my own personal naming scheme. I am calling my HD2 a DesireHD2 and my HD7 a DesireHD7. It has nothing to do with HTC, other than the hardware was made by HTC.

As for dealing with MS, if enough people show them how unsatisfied we are with them and let them know we won't be buying apps or indulging WP7, they will...when their treasure trove of money runs out ...take notice. I'm not saying I'm unsatisfied with a closed system, I'm not. I actually love closed systems. But I do requires the full compliment of features already prevalent in the market today.

I see it as an arrogant insult for MS to be doing us all the way they are by shoving a massive update so long from now. It ruins the experience for me. It makes me feel like I am at MS's mercy. Like they will choose to punish us or reward us based on their whim. I don't know about anyone else, but I deal immediately and effectively with such an arrogant and abusive attitude. I tell them where to shove it and proceed to do what they hope we can't do: make alternative use of our WP7 devices. I'll not be manipulated by MS. I will use my HD7 in some other way before I will submit to their arrogance.
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
So why does the Uri below display information about this update?

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/january-update.aspx

As for official word - I have been told by a senior Microsoft exec that this will indeed be released in January. Now, his track record isn't all that great, but seeing as there is an official Uri to back him up this time I'm inclined to believe he's correct.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
so what in that link says January?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Reflexx1:
I believe that the 30-60 days was for consumers.

I wouldn't be surprised if carriers already had it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Reflexx1:
The old URL. :p
[Windows Phone 7 General] FishFaceMcGee:
How are you punishing Microsoft? You gave them your money.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Zedox:
We'll all be dead by the time MS runs out of money.
[Windows Phone 7 General] zukа:
Compare this with...

Come on, man. The OS hasn't even been out long enough to have worldwide release yet. It's a bit early to be completely flip-flopping.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
So let me get this straight. You call the HD7 the Desire HD7 despite the fact that it has never and likely will never run that abomination of an overlay known as sense. You then go on to say that one of the highest grossing companies in existence is going to run out of spare money to throw around due to the fact that it doesn't have copy and paste as well as some other minor features? I build and repair computers for a living and I still get people every day with vista. That system sold well and it still makes me want to punch myself in the **** every time I use it. As for your opinion on the sadism of Microsoft, that just sounds like underlying anger. If you feel like they're trying to hurt you or themselves in distributing these updates then I do believe you are lost. Go enjoy a laggy UI and mediocre gaming experience with android. I for one will stick with games like ilomilo and apps that a normal person uses day to day. The only reasons I enjoyed tinkering with phones was because they weren't functional in their beginning state by my standards. This one is and I won't turn back.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MrAlchemist:
Sure we can all quibble that there is bits and pieces missing from this OS, but what's there works, and really well.

I'm hanging for the update too, but again playing with a friends Galaxy S running Froyo the other day I'm glad I didn't go down that path....
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
Oh, I dunno - the January-Update.aspx bit perhaps? as in

www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/january-update.aspx
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Things work great besides:

1. Bing Maps

2. Word which is extremely limited

3. Marketplace which reguraly crashes
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
bing/word = agree

i'd say market place will get fixed with this update coming. it's pretty obvious issue that i'm sure ms would want to pan out.

i always found word a bit limited, like not having the ability to access the style sheets was a little annoying as i found them really useful once i got use to them on the desktop version, but in the end, i don't use word for heavy duty stuff on my phone but it is a bit of a surprise that onenote seemed more powerful then word on the phone.

as for bing, i haven't had all too many issues with it in australia, but there aren't any POIs, and no local search.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Audio:
Is it just me or did anyone else think this was post of the day? :)

I agree, the OP shouldn't bother waiting a month or 2 for an update from MS. They should wait 6 months, a year, maybe indefinately for an Android port instead that may never arrive, then they can give their phone a new name that they'd made up, too.
[Windows Phone 7 General] zukа:
When I put Android on my Trophy it's going to be the HTC Testicle. I think it's got a ring to it
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Why do you people just assume that this will occur? especially to the closest WP7 has to a mid-range device? They put it over WM6.5 because to most people that is just not a good OS but it was easy to modify. WP7 is a better OS than android, why would theygo through all the previous troubles to downgrade a phone? Completely non-sensical. I love how you people think just because it's the public predecessor to the HD2 that it will also be XDA's next super-phone. Highly unlikely... and yeah, it would just make 0 sense to do it to the trophy... thats the biggest clunker in the WP7 lineup.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Paul Nur:
Ehh, im sorry guys but I do not have the time to read ALL of your comments, when I do have time later on today I will try and respond to all of them. From what I saw we were getting a little off topic, please try to stay on topic and I am sorry in advance for the people that are on topic that have to read this, thanks for the great discussion! going to be a treat to read all of this latter on.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Fine. Stick with it. I hope you the best of luck. I've been around a bit too long to know how the MS philosophy works. People forget how computing life was when MS had the monopoly on everything. You tend to think MS is your friend, but they are far from your friend. If they could, they would make you their footstool.

I'm glad Google exists. The more I live and breathe, the more I understand Google's existence. Google is the valiant one keeping the dragon at bey. I hope Google continues to prosper. You have to believe that a company that names its self Google and names its products, Cupcake, Donut, Eclair, Frozen Yogurt, and Gingerbread, with the upcoming product names, Honeycomb and Ice Cream Sandwich, isn't really into the whole power mongering scene. MS is, though. They would set themselves up as lord and ruler over all dominion had they the chance.

Just because the devil desperately makes an attempt to gain control with a slick new system doesn't mean they are in this to please others.
[Windows Phone 7 General] crsnwby:
yea ok, like google is ran by fluffy bunnies who dont care about making money by selling you crap.

If there not power hungry how come they keep buying up tech and building the company...
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Well...would you take a feather to a sword fight? Imagine how tickling your opponent to death would go over. As far as buying up other tech, they are trying to make a living...just like you. They give away their products, their whole revenue comes from advertising.
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
Exactly, and you can't really be naive enough to think this is a good thing - can you?
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Even if there were anything shady about what Google does, it is far less harmful than what MS can and would do.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Wow, the good and evil discussion here is going to make me vomit. It's like a bad game of D&D. Google is just as much a corporate badboy as microsoft and apple, they just put on a nicer facade and because of that they can throw out a lesser OS. What we needed when iphone was pretty much the only reasonable choice was a more open source OS (though not near as open as WM) At this point this late in the game you can either be a cheapskate and buy a google product to get everything free but with lesser choices. Be a social tool and get iOS where you're at the mercy of apple to fix absolutely anything on your device. Or WP7 who properly designed a beautiful OS (the first of its kind not iOS or an iOS ripoff) and is building a gaming repetoire that already just eats androids alive. Theyre the only other company aside from iOS who takes advantage of their hardware limitations so yeah, either go android and regardless of what you pay for get something that runs like a low end device, get an iphone with it's tiny screen, bad auto correct, and crappy UI, or go WP7 with the smoothest sleekest UI and great games though it lacks a few basic features til the update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
As I hate some MS policies I am sure Google does not differ at all.

They are also hardcore business players.

Remember the private WiFi data collecting issue?

I hope I will not be forced to use Android in the end.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
I'm sorry dude but this has got to be one of the funniest post of the day. How many contradictions and wrong information can you put in one post?
[Windows Phone 7 General] eternalemb:
lmmfao oh man this is great stuff! I gotta tweet this. This is hilarious. I wonder if you're actually a paranoid schizophrenic or just an idiot hahahaha
[Windows Phone 7 General] eternalemb:
ahahahahaha again with the funniness! You crack me up man. Nobody could actually be this stupid could they?:confused:
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
It's adorable when people post things like this and then mention none of the aforementioned contradictions. Android was intended to be a low end operating system for those who couldnt afford iOS, through phones like the G1 and how open-source it is it sort of stood for itself and made its way up but compared to other OSes its just low end with a few perks. I'm honestly wondering what kind of moron continues to develop for an OS in which you can get anything you want for free.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Reflexx1:
I'm expecting a post soon about how Microsoft was responsible for the World Trade Center attack.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eternalemb:
:D lmao seriously. No wait, this just in, Microsoft is responsible for JFKs assassination ! Lol
[Windows Phone 7 General] zukа:
It was a joke, you idiot. But thanks for bashing me (and my phone?) without thinking first.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eternalemb:
funny...didnt you lambast me for using personal insults in a recent thread...? I was behaving like a 12 year old i believe you said. Hmm...
[Windows Phone 7 General] eternalemb:
Coming from you that means nothing. Shouldn't you be plotting your next anti-Microsoft move? You seem to have a messiah complex...so please, save the world from Microsoft! You're our only hope!
[Windows Phone 7 General] zukа:
Aaand another thread in WP7 heads towards locking.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JamesAllen:
Hope not

Too many valuable threads have been closed by mods because a few immature posters have hijacked the threads like a couple of children who did not get their way from one parent, so they tried another. I hope the mods are smart enough to realize that the real intent of these posters is to shut down any WP7 thread that supports WP7. They can't handle it. The mods have to be smart about these people and simply ban them before they hijack the thread before they even think about closing it for the rest of us who really are interested in the subject matter.
[Windows Phone 7 General] truffle1234:
and after all this you bought a WP7 (which I strongly believe is an imaginary device) phone.

It sounds like the movie dumb and dumber to me...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Paul Nur:
EVERYONE!!! This thread if for the update we want and are expecting form MS, if its anything other than that get the **** off my thread, all this bickering is pathetic, and this is to everyone posting unrelated comments.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sergiu9my:
Sometimes after i talk on the phone,and end the call all the sounds that should be heard on the rear speaker in the phone(ex. music,lock screen sound,anything..) i hear them in the front speaker of the phone, that should only be used when talking on the phone...

pls help... i tried formating the system,factory reset, changing the firmware... nothing seems to work... :|
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamez.tankh:
[Q]anyone encounter "Installation error (package file invalid)" before? how to fix??

hi, my desire using RCMixHD v0.14b.

i had more than hundreds of apps in my phone and i still have sufficient memory (data2sd). just in a sudden i couldn't install apks. it keep on show "Installation error (package file invalid)" any1 has any idea to solve it???

i can't reset my phone coz this bloody problem occur when i'm about to install titanium backup...pissed
[XPERIA X10 General] hagisbasheruk:
Just wondering who has tried this with X10,i am a new X10 owner and thought this might be good to try

http://www.tombom.co.uk/blog/?p=124
[Droid X General] converge12:
any reason i shouldn't?
[Droid X General] DarkWolfx:
LOL how ironic.

I have a DINC and thanks to its unlocked bootloader I am able to use it freely 100% on my network.

And on the other end, I am eagerly waiting for a miracle for someone to crack DX's bootloader so I can program it and have all its features such as EVDO.

It's a very good phone and don't blame you wanting a change, but nothing can beat that beautiful 4.3'' and HDMI port.

Just my 2 cents.
[Droid X General] blockhead42:
I was on the fence too. Theres a lot I like about both phones. The Inc has worse battery life and there are always the pro/cons of the smaller size.
[Droid X General] converge12:
screen size is the only thing i may miss.. i never use the hdmi out.

i can just buy the same size battery as the DX and solve that problem.
[Droid X General] mattmartin77:
and what about that processor on the dx? i couldnt imagine leaving that behind
[Droid X General] converge12:
I read that while the omap is speedier, they are definitely comparable.

How easy is it to restore a droid inc? Rsd lite for the droid x is the easiest thing ever..
[Droid X General] converge12:
Does the inc have a magnetometer? If not would the new google maps work with it?
[Droid X General] thepolishguy:
any particular reason you are getting the Dinc? I mean over the X? I know that I was all worked up about "the bootloader" and no "real custom roms" and no "custom kernels", so I got the D1 (I know--not the same as the Dinc).

What I found out is that all that stuff really isn't all that big of deal. I have tried a couple of the great custom roms - Bugless Beast and Cyanogen. Both great. But not any better than Apex or Rubix (in my opinion). And custom kernels are a pain. the milestone overclock project allows you to overclock your Dx or d2 on the fly. with custom kernels you have to flash a new kernel anytime you want to change your clock speeds.

so anyways - I found out that the DX bootloader issue isn't that big of deal. just thought I would share some thoughts with you.
[Droid X General] luke1333:
i have both the droid x and htc dinc and i agree the dinc has the WORST battery life ever! wtf for a small phone!! my droid x standard battery puts out more than this dinc but i like it all except for that and the screen isnt too bad. much crisper than droid x but not as nice for videos and taking photos. so not sure when i will switch back to my x but the dinc is fun to mess with but i for sure wouldnt get rid of my x completley for it thought! just my thoughts hope it helps!
[Droid X General] DarkWolfx:
Unfortunately for me it is, because the settings I need to stick; are locked because of the bootloader haha.
[Droid X General] joebob296:
IF you are referring to OC setting they can/do stick through reboots, power up/down and all that jazz. They stick all the time thats what apply on boot is...
[Droid X General] thepolishguy:
Well - it would have been easier to address whatever issue you are having if you had just come out with it and let us know what settings you need to be "stuck" that won't seem to "stick" bc of the bootloader.

care to elaborate?
[Droid X General] oldnavyguy:
Switch as quickly as possible I had a Droid incredible and switched to this piece of junk DroidX and am switching back now after five months. DroidX is a terrible phone. DroidX incredible with HTC sense awesome :-)
[Droid X General] luke1333:
i agree the bootloader in the HTC is so so much better than the x!! dont know until u try it!
[Droid X General] GulMiguel:
In the decision between DX & DInc, I believe it may just be like comparing apples to oranges. The DX has a larger screen, a better processor and 3 times the memory installed. It's not often (in my experience) that you get a free 16GB SD card included with your phone. With all these things going for the DX, I'm not sure if a comparison with the DInc is fair. If a person is willing to give all of that up for a DInc, then the reasoning has to be something extremely subjective (i.e. cosmetic appeal or something). The DInc is truly incredible, but not as incredible as the DX. (IMHO)
[Droid X General] converge12:
the 16gb card is going from the DX into the Inc so that is a moot point..

and yes cosmetic appeal is one aspect of my decision.
[Droid X General] DarkWolfx:
Oh not the OC, I mean the carrier settings

Sure I've been trying but it seems no one has bee able to help out.

I got all the MDN and MIN settings on the phone stuck, except the ones for 3G in MIP and PPP (UM and AN) tabs.

I have tried whiterabbit's NV items script, flashed them via CDMA workshop and settings got stuck, but the problem is I gotta edit other settings manually and again not sticking.

I can send you a link of the values I need exactly on the MIP and PPP (UM and AN) tabs so you can have a better idea.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GreatLoner:
Hello,

I'm currently a Nexus One user on T-Mobile and I'm planning on switching to Verizon for their 4G LTE phones. However, I want to switch over now and use DINC in the meantime, and with the annoucement of the Verizon iPhone, I could pick up a good used DINC for a cheap price.

My main question is that are there any custom roms that mimic stock Android OS? I also like the built-in WiFi tethering found on my N1 and want to know if they've able to port those over onto the roms for the DINC.

I've searched on google and have not found a defenitive answer on that. I know about other apps that do WiFi tethering, but I prefer the one found on stock Android as that is a true hotspot function and not Ad-Hoc.

Thanks for any answers!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dpwhitty11:
Virtuous is as stock as you can get, and includes the hacked/free wifi tethering.

*edit*

Do you mean stock Sense or stock stock?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gahh Its Lee:
As far as tethering goes just get wireless tether from the market
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GreatLoner:
Stock stock.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] exmeaguy:
Is Sky Raider as close to stock Sense as you can get?
[Nexus S General] dragon546:
Hi All T-Mobile UK users

This may not affect all users in the NS forum. I am not liking this at all

http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-uk-slashes-fair-use-mobile-data-limit-500mb

sorry if this old news.. Sorry I cannot edit the title. This was written out of anger.
[Nexus S General] zorak950:
Might want to specify "UK" in the title, just to be sure you attract the attention of your target audience.
[Nexus S General] slowz3r:
Ya, saw this the other day, sorry brits ;(
[Nexus S General] ap3604:
Telco providers want a net-neutrality fight!

Are you brits gonna stand up and give it to them?! ;)
[Nexus S General] dragon546:
Apologies US Folks.
[Nexus S General] ap3604:
Don't apologize, just click "edit", then click "go advanced" and add a UK in the title so you don't freak others out ;)
[Nexus S General] dragon546:
Oh No I for one and are not putting up with that. I am going to submit a claim to regulatory board OFCOM & Trading Standards. I have already escalated this to T-Mobile as well.

May even look in to small claims court and exercise what you guys called the art of suing lol

I think we have a prime example how to cripple a smart phone here. People would be afraid of using the market to download apps. Use Youtube etc.

They are doing this across the board their current FPU states Android owners get a 3GB limit.

Wonders if the Iphone lot know yet as well because it affects them too.

In the USA you guys loads of wifi areas in the UK not so much..
[Nexus S General] dragon546:
Even after all this time I am still a noob sigh lol
[Nexus S General] ap3604:
No worries brotha' I still feel the same way too :p

Thank you for taking the time to post this article though it is something to DEF keep track of. Net-neutrality is a much bigger issue than people make it out to be and will be one of the hottest topic's of 2011 with the way more and more people getting smartphones and "straining" the networks.

I read the actual press release and could not believe the words that T-mobile used "If you want to download, stream and watch video clips, save that stuff for your home broadband." Seriously? Did they seriously just say that? Wow :eek:

Pretty aggressive language there T-mobile, I would never expect that from T-mobile U.S.A. whatsoever...