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[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
Lucky, still no update for the Pinyin input. I'm hoping it gets a nice update, they made major improvements in the last few updates, but it's still nowhere near as good as the English keyboard.
[Nexus One General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
nope, this is not an killer criteria by any means. i don't believe that this will become any major problem.
[Nexus One General] sceg10:
The Korean one also includes English keyboard. You can switch between Eng and Kor.
[Nexus One General] izmatron:
Wow, this thread sucks. Full of whiners and complainers. What is so special about GB that everyone MUST have it? If you need it that bad, do what other have said in this thread, root your phone and use a ROM in the dev section. Otherwise, quit acting like children.

Most of you are acting like this is the phone to end all phones. Guess what? It's on the tail-end of its life cycle and will be obsolete once the dual-cores are in full swing and we should be LUCKY to even get a GB update at all. Ever heard of Moore's law? Whatever you buy next will most likely be old news in a year or less.
[Nexus One General] VaKo:
I wouldn't agree with that, as I mentioned previously if you got an iPhone at the June 2007 launch, it received updates until February 2010. To say a phone that is barely a year old is obsolete and we should be lucky to get an update at all is ridiculous. Not only is the device is still perfectly capable of running the latest released version of Android, there are not devices on the market currently which are have made such a generational leap as to make all previous devices obsolete.

Apple have many sins when it comes to their mobile devices, but providing updates is not one of them. And updates is an area where Android, with it's multitude of devices, is very weak. Yes, you can get custom ROM's, but that's not an excuse to just pass off development to the community or force people to buy new devices.
[Nexus One General] :
Three Years of apple upgrades pale in comparison to updates for android.

The first two years of ios upgrades were just implementing basic features that were missing.
[Nexus One General] VaKo:
True, but they still actually provided the updates.
[Nexus One General] :
You have to qualify an update.
[Nexus One General] morfy50:
I fully agree with this. As people in general become more smartphone savvy, the average Joe will become very aware of updates (or the lack thereof).

Especially when the latest Android versions are public knowledge.
[Nexus One General] avgjoemomma:
It's 2011. I'm over playing the upgrade every year game they had us playing with PCs, graphics cards, etc for the past 20 years. I guess smartphones and tablets are the new way to fleece the masses. Have fun :)
[Nexus One General] kmiloco49:
With Honycomb around the corner now I have my doubts for a Gingerbread OTA
[Nexus One General] yunlin12:
I'm not even looking for the 2.3 update. I'm just curious, and actually secretly feeling fortunate that 2.3 doesn't have all that much improvements over Froyo, so I'm less tempted by the upgrade.

I've learned that if I keep wanting new things I will always be dissatisfied. In the world of monthly cellphone obsolescence, under a rock is the only peaceful place to live.
[Nexus One General] :
The only reason 2.3 is out there is becaue Google is attempting to create NFC business. They had to do it to get the API out there and in hopes that other mfg's jump on board.
[Nexus One General] dan1431:
I am not so sure that the only reason that Android 2.3 exists is for NFC, if that were the case they could have just OTAed another update to FroYo that added NFC support.

Gingerbread does have a slew of enhancements like an updated BlueZ stack, improved power management, a bunch of performance improvements (like a Garbage Collector, Faster Event Distribution), new video drivers plus other enhancements for gaming (which I could care less about).

While I agree it is not earth shattering, it does bring along some nice updates and I will be happy to have it when and if it rolls.

Dan
[Nexus One General] :
You can't add an API to the OS without changing version. Alot of developers would be rightfully pissed off.
[Nexus One General] Devastatin:
Wonder if this is a good article. =)

http://androidelectric.com/2011/02/03/wheres-gingerbread/
[Nexus One General] DarsVaeda:
I still think what i thought back when Gingerbread was released and not instantly pushed to the Nexus:

They are out of resources. They have to concentrate on Honeycomb development cause they need to challenge Apple.

Cause when there is not an efficient OS for tablets no one will buy them.

Thus they will buy Apple ones due to the hype. And when they buy an Apple Pad they will buy an Apple phone, an Apple computer ...

So that makes me think it is okay to wait.

Considering the already ported Gingerbread ROMS available from customizers I think they could have pushed it already but they wait until the proper adaption to hardware is finished.

That's a good thing too!
[Nexus One General] michel-slm:
Wonderful tip, thanks! I've just switched to it, the only nuisance factor is that I've yet to retrain my fingers, and keep pressing the toggle button for typing Korean characters!
[Nexus One General] JimSocks:
From that article. It says the vulnerability is already present in our phones. I see no reason not to release ota, and just patch it when nexus s gets patched.
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
The pinyin input also has latin input support, but until recently it was abysmal for typing English. It was easier to switch back to the standard keyboard when not using Chinese. It's good enough now that I use the Pinyin keyboard for everything, but there's still a lot of room for improvement.
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
It's a waste of their time. No sense wasting cycles on the packaging and QA process for an update with a major known problem that you are still working to resolve.
[Nexus One General] michel-slm:
Seems like a good, no-nonsense site; hope they can keep it up!
[Nexus One General] descendency:
I was in Jiang's class two semester's ago... he's a totally awesome Software Security professor. (Yes, I attend NC State)
[Nexus One General] defmute:
"NC State University Deportment of Computer Science"

What's a depOrtment????
[Nexus One General] zetacbr:
OK , is Sony releasing Xperia Play on Feb 13 with Gingerbread? COME ON!!!
[Nexus One General] mrtoken:
I really dont think we are going to get a OTA for 2.3, people are saying that 2.4 is in April which is designed to support dual core apps on a single core.

I am thinking that google might just skip 2.3 for nexus 1 and take us to 2.4.

2.4 is also called GB but just has support for the dual core.

What is the point in rolling out 2.3 when in a 60 days a new GB build is out.

Unless they get the patch for the bug and roll out 2.3.3.
[Nexus One General] :
Version 2.4 will not be cut in april if a 3.0 device is shipping Feb 24(which means AOSP cut is happening then). Anything planned for 2.4 is getting rolled into 3.0.

Also, pretty funny situation with Xperia Play getting gingerbread before the N1. lol
[Nexus One General] michel-slm:
This is actually perfectly reasonable. If you're developing a new phone, shouldn't you develop the drivers to target the Android release that would be current at shipping time?
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
The N1 already has drivers. It has to because you are using it. Binary drivers are not compatible with newer kernel version in Linux, but all that is usually required is a simple recompile. Drivers are not the cause of the delay.
[Nexus One General] :
Hmm I misread the article about the Xperia play, it's not being released feb 13th, just being announce, knowing sony, we can expect it be released in November with gingerbread.

Lil' ol N1 still has a chance!
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Foolproof way to get 2.3 without unlocking:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=11087674#post11087674

Could not be simpler :cool:
[Nexus One General] thesoze:
2.4 may still be called Gingerbread???

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/07/android-2-4-reportedly-coming-in-april-headed-to-viewsonic-view/
[Nexus One General] JimSocks:
I actually expect a quick release since they airing commercials already
[Nexus One General] :
Um...duh?

Any point release before 3.0 will be gingerbread.

and explanation on how android is developed:

http://source.android.com/source/code-lines.html
[Nexus One General] subvecto:
Lol
[Nexus One General] michel-slm:
"Usually" being the operative word. Having followed Linux kernel development for years, I do know that the API that drivers use change quite regularly (the only company that can consistently keep up with their binary drivers is nVidia).

Then again, in this case you might be right; it might be that, apart from phones launching in the very near future, everyone is waiting for Gingerbread 2.4 to drop.
[Nexus One General] j2eubank:
fastboot oem unlock.. it's one of the best features on the N1!
[Nexus One General] KROMO50:
Thanks guys did one click with the turn off phone method worked.great.
[Nexus One General] Lythandra:
I feel like we went from being the golden child to the red-headed step child.

Me sad on the wait. :confused: :confused: :confused:

But I'll live. :D
[Nexus One General] irishrally:
The NS is the new big dog in town, but I still LOVE my N1, and always will.

Why don't you guys try out the CM7 Crack flashers: http://phones.crackflashers.com/passion/ ?
[Nexus One General] MitchRapp:
seriously, bought the N1 thinking we'd always get the new stuff first... sure we got 2.2 and then 2.2.1 and then the new market, new gmail, new maps etc... but 2.3! cmon!

Also, stop spreading the 2.4 rumors... the google devs have called HoneyComb 3.0 ... so Ice Cream Sandwich can't be 2.4 ... your math skills worry me!
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
Which phone received a Gingerbread update before the N1? Did I miss something?
[Nexus One General] draugaz:
So far it looks like the google has other much more exciting exercises than cooking the old boring OTA for N1. For example:

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13674

Or do we want our N1s to start rebooting too? :)
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Ever heard of the Nexus S?

Sigh, I can't believe the OTA for Nexus One still hasn't come through. The Google Engineer said "a few weeks" wtf.
[Nexus One General] canadariot2312:
They said that a few weeks ago. Most likely, they are trying to get people to buy the Nexus S.

About "Ice Cream Sandwich", I though that "Honeycomb" was for tablets and "Gingerbread" was for phones with "Ice Cream Sandwich" for both.
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
Yeah, and the NS didn't get an OTA so it's an invalid comparison. Updating the existing software one a phone takes additional testing that isn't required for a fresh install.

I'm as impatient as anyone for the OTA, but all the whining about how the N1 has been abandoned is obnoxious and unfounded.
[Nexus One General] Sarg92:
Honeycomb is for phones and tablets as far as I know.

Honeycomb was just made from the ground up with tablets in mind that is why they are pushing the tablet aspect but Andy Rubin said Google have made an API which will allow an app to present itself accordingly to the device/screen size so the Gmail app on a Honeycomb tablet would look and act different to a Honeycomb phone.

Matias Duarte also said that Honeycomb is scalable and it is the direction for Android on all devices. He also pointed out that Google only showed a sneak peak of Honeycomb on a tablet.

Sony Ericsson have also stated that the Xperia Arc, which ships with Gingerbread, will be upgraded to Honeycomb once the software is available.
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
lol, hang in there or just cool yourself off with some icecream :D;)

btw micromods ginger rom is pretty sweet....while we wait for ota!
[Nexus One General] richardpap:
May be we can get OTA of Honeycomb from Google as you say.
[Nexus One General] geemaan:
With all the quirks NS is experiencing, I wouldn't buy it....
[Nexus One General] Dirk:
The Nexus S has only just gotten it's Market update. I'm taking that as a sign that Gingerbread still has it's issues and that Google are making sure everything will work properly before releasing it.
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
Reading the NS forum, I am beginning to wonder if (in it's current state), Gingerbread is fundamentally broken, and that's why we're not seeing it yet.
[Nexus One General] wang1404:
it doesn't really have to be the latest version of super one click. I mean I used the older one and it worked like a charm. But the only thing i could think of why you couldn't root is becuz you havent set up your phone linked with the computer right
[Nexus One General] wang1404:
Agree!!!!!:( We were the golden child but Google just decided to adopt a new child who is weak and not as superior as us when we were released but for some reason the parent just wanna keep up with the Pitts family.:mad::mad:
[Nexus One General] MitchRapp:
If someone gave me a Nexus S for free right now, I wouldn't even open the box. I'd sell it right away to some idiot on ebay/kijiji willing to pay 500-600$ for a cheap piece of plastic!
[Nexus One General] Dirk:
I don't think there's anything particularly cheap about the Nexus S. Although glossy plastic does look a bit tacky, from what i hear the phone is actually very well build and feels solid in the hand.
[Nexus One General] Dirk:
I think this is where a lot of people fall over. if you don't have the required drivers installed on your PC it simply won't work. This can be checked by a quick look in Device Manager on a Windows PC.

When i plugged into my Win 7 64Bit edition, with USB Debugging enabled, the PC tried to install drivers automatically but failed. I had to find the Nexus One driver package on XDA and they installed fine.
[Nexus One General] KROMO50:
here is the driver i used http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=613217
[Nexus One General] princebabyeater:
everytime i run S.o.C. i get stuck at "getting mount path..." it just hangs there, any ideas what i can do?? ive followed all the steps but no luck
[Nexus One General] bwilliams1:
My wife had that problem with hers, I clicked the root button with the phone disconnected and powered off, plugged it in and turned it on.. This worked got past the mount, and successfully rooted her phone.

Edit: spelling.
[Nexus One General] Dirk:
Did you follow the instructions on the original thread or did you try the method mentioned above? (Phone off method). The latter works every time for me, the former doesn't work very well at all.
[Nexus One General] tmcquake:
Could 2.4 (phone OS) = 3.0 (Tablet OS)?

There will likely be 2 numbering systems from now on, to distinguish the tablet OS versions and ones for phones. As explained during the Honeycomb presentation at CES, Android 3.0 is for tablets only.

I predict that Ice Cream Sandwich (aka Android 2.4) will likely = Honeycomb for phones. But who knows, it's all speculation at this point.
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
Android 2.4 is Gingerbread.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=904311

Check your statements before showing them off as facts :cool:
[Nexus One General] tmcquake:
Chill out buddy. At this point there are no facts. Companies say all kinds of things at tech events. All I offered was an opinion, I apologize if there was confusion.

Like I said in my post it's all speculation at this point.
[Nexus One General] GHOST99K:
dude i bought my N1 the day google announced the nexus S and im fully rooted with CM7 GB alpha rom.i just couldnt wait for google's OTA.root is very simple for FRG83D 2.2.1.ROOT your N1 so u dont have to wait for google's OTA plus gingerbread working flawless in my N1.
[Nexus One General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
somehow this is getting ridiculous, i mean i can wait cause i'm happy with 2.2.1 on my n1.

But the gingerbread update only brought some minor updates, how can rolling this out take so long?

Some people speculate that there are many issues to be fixed and Gb not stable enough, but i just cant believe that.
[Nexus One General] dang025:
I was having problems as well. Superclick mentions if your having trouble with it, you should boot into recovery and start up the program and continue with the device reboot. check out the unlockr.com topic about it for some trouble shooting
[Nexus One General] subvecto:
Lol, make it $450 and I buy it from you, let me know, if it ever happens...
[Nexus One General] dang025:
I had the same problem. I rebooted into recovery mode and then started up the super one click program while in recovery and then rebooted it. if that doesn't help try using the nexus one rooting guide on unlockr.com
[Nexus One General] thesoze:
I've been seeing tweets that say there are rumours about the OTA being rolled out but i'm skeptical esp the last time I fell for it and posted it here..
[Nexus One General] Beedee2:
With all the appearances of Android 2.4 the last few days, I am beginning to wonder if google will be skipping 2.3 for the nexus one, and move right to 2.4. After all, we saw the tweet announcing 2.3 on the nexus one almost a month ago, and if 2.4 is working on a sony-Ericsson and a german nexus S, the nexus one cannot be far away ??!
[Nexus One General] thesoze:
if they are indeed working on 2.4 why isnt 2.3 released already - is anyone working on 2.3 anymore - I'm getting bored of this and now I want Ice Cream - gingerbread should've been released in late dec for the holidays...

arghhh
[Nexus One General] jdmoore81:
I believe the nexus one is going to receive 2.4 with Google music sync the are wanting something big for us nexus one users
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
Froyo was pre released, then it took over a month to finally roll out to the nexus one this doesn't seem any different. Software is just hard to predict when the bugs will be killed.
[Nexus One General] Matterhorn:
I used the Nexus S with Gingerbread for 3 weeks before returning it, believe me 2.3.1 is full of bugs. We are better off without it until the bugs are ironed out. I could wait for 2.4.
[Nexus One General] MitchRapp:
It's probably been said, but with all the Nexus S horror stories, I'm thinking they are probably tweaking 2.3 right now...

that 2.4 stuff sounds like a Sony-E mistake, because all signs point to Honeycomb being 3.0 and coming out in March/April (Xoom/Atria)

Although I am satisfied to death with my 2.2.1, I wouldn't mind taunting the rest of the Android world with a little 2.3 action... After all, the Nexus One is google's baby... it should get it first! (Nexus S doesn't count, it sucks and it came with it)
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
I've said this a lot recently; 2.4 is still Gingerbread.
[Nexus One General] twolves14:
Might be Ice Cream [Sandwich?].

http://www.pcworld.com/article/216558/android_24_ice_cream_details_drip.html

http://www.slashgear.com/android-2-4-ice-cream-due-junejuly-2011-tip-insiders-11125622/
[Nexus One General] musashiken:
It's all just speculation. But if we were to go by sequence, Ice Cream Sandwich will have to be after Honeycomb and that means post 3.0.

Most likely 2.4 is still Gingerbread, like 2.0 and 2.1 were Eclair.
[Nexus One General] tr.slate:
Agreed. The othet day i read a story saying how the lg 2x phones at ces got the 2.4 update and they had 2.3. Its in my twitter feed if anyones that curious. Also bestboyz have a youtube video of the "new" nexus with 2.4 and it looks just like gb.

We'll get honeycomb first, then ics...

Well, unless you have a samsung ;p then you might go back to cupcake hahaha.
[Nexus One General] princebabyeater:
so far all of them, im about to try the "phone-off-and-unplugged-then-pressing-the-root-button" method
[Nexus One General] canadariot2312:
Marketing. Since the only phone with Gingerbread (that is out) is not much different than most high end Android phones, I would expect that is the reason the Nexus One hasn't gotten Gingerbread.

I have also heard about the bugs in Gingerbread and maybe the Nexus S is a device used to test Gingerbread.
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
No. It's Gingerbread.

The video of the Nexus S running it shows it's build number as GRH84.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
I agree. After rooting and flashing my N1 to GB, it's definitely eliminated my desire to switch to the Nexus S... I suspect Google wants to sell a bunch of NS' first.
[Nexus One General] :
No

Just no.

Andoid number system is a progressive and linear path

1...2...3...4...etc

a...b...c...d...etc.

If 3 is honeycomb then ice cream is 3 +.
[Nexus One General] BiTXBoi:
2.4 Ice cream (sandwich) and 3.0 Honeycomb? 'I' before 'H' ? :confused: don't think so...I believe I read somewhere that even if a 2.4 version existed, it could perfectly be considered as Gingerbread, just as 2.0 and 2.1 were both considered Eclair
[Nexus One General] ajorg:
Hence sandwich instead of just ice cream, because it's sandwiched between G and H where it doesn't belong?
[Nexus One General] canadariot2312:
I though sandwich is just because frozen yogurt is similar to ice cream and people might get confused. Now I am hungry.

Best case scenario, we will get 2.4 (which should still be Gingerbread) at the same time the Nexus S gets 2.4 after they get rid of bugs.

Worst case scenario, we will get an update from Andy Rubin saying, "a few more weeks."
[Nexus One General] Syntax323:
Very true. Ya know, I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see if we Nexus One owners got a 2.4 Gingerbread OTA, and than see that roll out to phones. Maybe they are just tweaking it a bit.

Either way, we'll get it, just a matter of time. Custom ROMS do the trick.

I'm more excited to see where Cyanogen is going to take this...
[Nexus One General] geemaan:
2.4 still IS gingerbread.
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
Some info/speculation today on GizmoCrunch:

http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/4779-verizon-htc-android-gingerbread-ice-cream-honeycomb

Buttonless HTC Phone May Explain Gap Between Android 2.4 & Android 3.0

"While all eyes are on the upcoming release of the Verizon HTC Thunderbolt 4G, HTC may be working on another "first", an Android 3.0 Honeycomb phone also bound for Big Red.

HTC Android 3.0 Honeycomb phone with Verizon branding surfaces

According to Phandroid who uncovered an image of a new Android phone with Verizon branding on HTC Sync's last update, the very clearly pictured device had no physical buttons up front whatsoever. The blog goes on to suggest that since Android 3.0 Honeycomb devices such as the Motorola Xoom tablet also come without physical buttons (use multitouch gestures for commands like 'back' and 'exit'), we could be looking at the first Android 3.0 Honeycomb phone headed to the market.

More updates between Android 2.4 Ice-Cream & 3.0 Honeycomb? [Rumor]

With Android 2.3 Gingerbread currently available on the Samsung Nexus S and leaked details of Android 2.4 Ice Cream headed to the Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc, there still seems to be some confusion as to why Android 3.0 has left such a massive gap of digits in between. One theory would be that existing Android phones will be able to enjoy a couple more updates (up to 2.9) before hitting the buttonless Android 3.0 Honeycomb update.

As more details surface on the buttonless Verizon-bound HTC Android 3.0 Honeycomb phone, the less likely will we be just grasping at straws"
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
Having seen the image in question, I'd say it's more likely to be a placeholder image, it's too generic. The design of it is a phone that did have buttons that have been erased... it's got a huge gap where some capacitive ones should be.