yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Rayvenhawk:
First as an indie game maker I don't hate Android at all. As a previous iPhone user I love my G2 compared to the iPhone. With my Android I'm not worried if my little 8gb/52meg RAM can fully support the new OS.

If I feel like bumping my 8gb to 16gb I can simply walk to Office Depot buy the chip, slip it in and viola! 16gb, can I do that to my iPhone???

Can I buy a new battery and install it myself on an iPhone??? Nope I have to pay someone to do it for me.

Can I theme my iPhone without hacking it and voiding my warranty with Apple (rooting an Android phone may or may not void warranty, that issue is still not clear cut, but for iPhone it is, if your phone is hacked you lost all support from Apple)?

Can I modify the icons for the default services such as phone, contacts, etc on the iPhone??

Can I get 4G on ANY iPhone?? I sure can on my Android G2, and many ON THE MARKET Android phones.

Just because a phone may have more apps, or the same apps just sooner doesn't make it a better phone, you need to factor in support, ability to customize, hardware, and ability to upgrade battery & memory.

With those factors the iPhone falls way short compared to ANY Android phone and because of Apples continued desire to be so narrow-minded the iPhone will always be behind Android phones.

You mention EA hates Android, where is your proof of this statement?? Because this website totally contradicts your claim

www*knowyourmobile*com/mobile-games/mobilegamesnews/599758/ea_to_take_advantage_of_android.html

(Because I don't have the required amount of posts I had to edit the above link, just replace the * with .)

Plus the fact any gaming company or software company for that matter would be stupid to ignore a widespread platform such as Android, that is the reason why many game titles are released on multiple platforms for the simple reason of money.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] evolutionqy7:
you know the whole world isnt revolving around US :)

Whats the complicated bit? Having to press app drawer button? LOL

I think the usability is far higher. YOu dont have a sea of apps. You can chose which ones you want the closest when you unlock the screen! And you have widgets! Power Widgets! Where on the iphone you have to find your way into settings to turn anything off
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BigBonkers:
Did someone really mention Themes and a Replaceable battery? Was that a JOKE? Ive never ever replaced a battery nor have I ever carried a spare battery 99% of the world doesnt!!!!

Themes AND Widgets? Ummmm sooo does the Iphone. A jailbroken iphone is king. And no the US market is the world market.......but its the market wee LIVE in!

Anyways android is a great product...BUT ZERO support! Thats all im saying and there is no arguing guys. I wish it was different because then we would have a better marketplace! Android OS phones seem to think that Hardware will lure consumers sorry but no.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BigBonkers:
BTW this article was written in sept 2010 ....4 1/2 months ago. And still NOTHING!!!!! Point proven!

knowyourmobile*com/mobile-games/mobilegamesnews/599758/ea_to_take_advantage_of_android.html
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ramdroid77:
You are not ignorant at all aren't you?

The biggest Smartphone market to my knowledge is Asia.

This site (xda developers) is visited from people all around the world. And it's originating from the Netherlands.... from what I heard last time this is based in Europe!

Get your Verizon iPhone and leave us dying with our poor Android phones. thanks!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ramdroid77:
there's nothing wrong in this article. EA said they will develop for Android. like i wrote few posts earlier, one day it will be put to their #1 attention. As regarding Android market.... eventually EA can easily launch their own store. why not? Having a choice on your preferred market place is part of the Android experience...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ramdroid77:
another article about Android fragmentation

http://www.bgr.com/2011/01/13/canal...(BGR+|+Boy+Genius+Report)&utm_content=Twitter

software companies will always put their attention to the most successful platform. up until recently this was iPhone. but.... yes, I think I wrote before.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BigBonkers:
BTW Symbian is the #1 platform for Smartphones today............and ummmm i think we both agree its the Dog ****z.

Proof is in the Puddin , no roger no rerun NO RENT!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] JimJam707:
It's funny because I reported you, you troll.

So make like a tree and get ouuta here!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ramdroid77:
I have Android today because I love it. I'd never buy a device with iOS on it. I once rented an iPad for 2 weeks from a guy at work to see what the buzz was about, and this thing was really horrible. I tried to look at it with an open mind, but you can't really hide the truth here anymore. sorry. iOS might be good enough for couple short games and fart apps, but I see more potential in a Smartphone. There are many great apps I'm using today on Android. Yes I was predicting Android a even brighter future than it got today, and this includes games. While you are ONLY seem to talk about your games, I see more use in a Smartphone than only games. If you really want games, buy a console. Or the upcoming Playstation phone. oh sorry, I forgot, it's Android. oh no....

Symbian is not #1 in Asia anymore. It's currently still #1 worldwide, but this will soon change. that's what I wrote, I didn't write about games, so maybe you didn't understand it. read again.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeppelinrox:
I thought that this thread title was a joke.

Well, actually, it really is a joke.

If your spelling is an indication of your intellect, then your choosing an iPhone makes perfect sense :)

I hope it has a good spell checker for your sake because it will have to work overtime so that you don't look like an idiot.

If it manages that, then it will indeed be a super phone. :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] gabrialxue:
Its obvious he is just here to troll, so if someone could ban him that'd be great
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] havensed:
brainless idea

iphone over android.....not in this lifetime....I will never let apple control my life...The idea of not even being able to remove and install an SD card.....give me a break..and dont get me started on the junk battery and charging jack that breaks again and again. Lastly...ipone 4g cant keep from dropping a call depending on where you put your hand....duh....ANDROID FOREVER....
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] daz1uk:
Iphone - A mobile communication device designed by Apple.

Apple - A company that design, produce and sell overpriced garbage with an emphasis on 'ergonomics' and a mindset if it looks nice we can sell it for twice the price of it's real value.

Do I think Android is going to die, hell no.

Why?

Look at the competition, WP7, another crap operating system from the Bill Gates squad, yet another **** company that owe their inheritance to a thieving lying twat.

Iphone - As already stated.

Android is open source and open to you me or the lady next door, it's market share grows by the month, there are no restrictions or dying things here.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] iridium21:
LOL! Nice troll!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] JimmyBanks:
while i love my desire,

i have to give credit to wp7, it works flawlessly from what is available, and updates will improve it tenfold similar to how live and vista sucked and now 7 and xlive are amazing.

microsoft has been on a good roll for the last 3 years. everything they are releasing is quite impressive. (minus kin and a few others)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MikeyMike01:
Android passed Apple a while go. Give it a year and Android will be a household name like Windows is.

Sent from my Captivate.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] :
Oh wow, Ya far from dying. There are other markets besides the US that has the iPhone. Every major carrier in canada (even one budget one) carries the iPhone. Android has passed Apple in market share. And Apple is lacking in features for me. It took the what? two years for the to allow their users to change their background on their phones?

And also to all the WP7 haters here, while I'm not a fan boy for Microsoft. Give them credit they fell so far behind in the phone market and have released a fairly good system considering the time they had. Just saying.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ryan562:
awesome. enjoy your new verizon iphone and skinny jeans!

btw, too bad you have to jailbreak an iphone to do what DROID DOES!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] teddyearp:
(in the voice of the robot from Lost in Space): WARNING, WARNING, Troll alert!!! WARNING, WARNING, do not post in this thread and think it is serious. It has been started by a TROLL and answering here will only lure you into his evil trap . . . . .

ooops, lol

Seriously, my sister was wondering about the two. She's been using an iPhone on AT&T, but she still wanted to know about the Droid, so I let her look at and play with my rooted A885 Droid and how you could totally customize it.

At the end of the day she found that for two reasons she's going with the iPhone on VZW. One, she's already used to it. And two she thought that the Droid was "way too complicated looking". [because of how much you can customize it]

nuff said.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] betalove:
I disagree with you. I think Android will be better than iOS some day though there are more apps in iOS now.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] shadow65781:
personally I am glad to see verizon get the iphone, I hope it will ease the bandwidth isues on sucktt a bit because I think that some people will switch to verizon because of said network bog issues.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BigBonkers:
Many of you are supporting my points by saying Android will soon catch up..or by saying Android will one day be better. So umm as of today its not.

Im not buying a phone today to be supported tommarrow!!! Even all these new 4g dual core phones arent even out yet........by the time they are the new iphone qill be out and there dead again!!!!

When the phone companys showed of there dual core phone they demo'd games that have been on iphone (single core) for over a year!!!!

Devs will almost never make a game only for android. Even the good games are meant only for the motorola droid phones. And if you try em on a different phone the resolution is way off!!!

As of today IOS / Iphone is KING........when Android takes over please let me know. And please dont mention that Android activations are through the roof.....umm ofcourse they are theres a million different versions....3 different resolutions.......different GPU's , etc etc etc.....devs wont support em!!!

And please dont mention the XDA forums as devs......the devs here are hackers and are here to help you stay off the anger of never having yopur phones updated!!! Theyll make you a theme or two....make a custom rom with some features working and some not!!!

The happiest day for android users was when Angry Birds got released! Ummmm that game came out on iphone 1 YEAR before Android had it!!!

Hey EA announced some games for android atleast........ Ummm did they?? Madden ummmm dont see it anywhere.....ohh its still in beta!! Hahahah Ohhh those gameloft gamnes are great, They were better when i played thenm on the iphone 2 years ago...

But the DEVS will make apps because android is the largest OS........Ummmm Symbian on NOKIA and theres nothing of value there!!!!

Guys untill the fragmentation ends there will be no decent developers!!! Google doesnt care because in the end they will make $$$$ off the advertisements or selling surfing information!!!!

Hey the Motorola Razr was the best selling phone of all time I think......Gee that had some great Apps lololol
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] copex:
Android Overtakes Apple iOS for First Time

i would say androids kicking the g*D D*m S**T out of iOS!!

"Google's Android mobile platform has overtaken Apple's iOS as the most popular mobile operating system.

According to a report by mobile advertising network Millennial Media, the Android OS was linked to 46 per cent of ad impressions in December, while iOS managed just 32 per cent. Just the month before, in November, the two systems were performing equally, with 32 per cent of ad impressions.

Other prominent operating systems included RIM's BlackBerry OS, taking 16 per cent of ad impressions in December, and Nokia's Symbian OS with 2 per cent. Microsoft's much-hyped Windows Mobile platform managed just 1 per cent.

In terms of devices, Apple's iPod, iPhone and iPad all came within the top 30 most popular devices, with the iPhone topping the list. The three Apple devices clocked up 21 per cent of total ad impressions in December. Samsung came in at second for device manufacturers, with 17 per cent of ad impressions, and had seven devices in the top 30 list.

HTC took third position, taking 15 per cent of ad impressions, but squeezed more of its devices into the top 30 list than any other manufacturer, with nine. RIM came in at fourth with five devices in the top 30 and 12 per cent of ad impressions. The company's BlackBerry Curve was the number two device behind the iPhone.

The report also confirmed the rise and rise of the smartphone, indicating that 23 of the top 30 devices were smartphones. The multimedia handsets managed to account for 48 per cent of ad impressions in December. "

quoting from http://goo.gl/oMh5Y
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 89luca89:
Hi guys, I'm new to HD2, I'm an Android user and obviously I've installed NAND android in my HD2!

Now a question, I've searched a lot without having responses:

Why if I use a SENSE rom, ALL works fine, BUT if I use a NON.Sense Rom, wifi will not work???

The problem is that is connects (says connected) BUT do not have data....if I open for example the browser it says he want data connection, also sometimes it starts downloading the page and freezes data at the just beginning...

tried 3 different radios until now...

Really dunno what to do!

Can anyone help me???
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mattfmartin:
It appears quite a few of us are having this same problem. I've been dealing with this for months. I finally just gave up and stopped thinking about wifi.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 89luca89:
is it possible that many users have a problem like that an there is no explanation about it? O.o
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] muchelaguito:
I also have the same issue. I see that I do have an IP, gwy, dns, etc, etc.... but still not working. I'm using MDJ 2.1, but for me, it is not working on any NAND build =(
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 89luca89:
could it be RadioROM related??

I dunno, I've tested 2.15.50.15, 2.11.50.6, 2.08.50

and in all of them, I have this iussue...

the strange thing is that works on sense build and not in non-sense builds... this does not have any sense!! lol!

And I talk having tested at least 8 roms with 3 different kernel each...with ppp and rmnet...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] muchelaguito:
In what NAND sense build you had it working?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 89luca89:
every sense I've tried:

Frankinstine Droid v1.0

-=MDJ Revolution HD v.2.2=-

Raidroid HD Sense v1.1

and the one I'm building from a desire one...

all work smooth and without problems...with MDJ kernel or Prj one...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
It has nothing to do with nand. I have the same issue. Even rajko and roniez could not solve it. I solved it myself...by changing of router !

Try with another AP, and it should work.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] muchelaguito:
In my case I have tried different routers and is not the problem. I connect at home and the office, all without success.

Well, it's working today after I tried something, but I have had it working for only half hour or so:

Change the wifi channel to 11

I'm using the latest mdeejay build with wpa2 authentication.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
Your issue is different than us. Your channel problem would give you ping problem between your phone and AP. Here, I have a perfect ping to router, but crappy ping to any web adress. It means that it's a routing issue from my specific router wan access to my phone. That's why switching router works...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] muchelaguito:
Nope, actually, the behavior is the same for me, I have perfect pings to the router, but unable to ping the outside. As I said, I switched channels and the issue went away... for a couple of minutes. Now it is back. I'm trying with more than one AP, as I'm a network engineer I have access to several ones, and the problem is visible in all of them.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 89luca89:
I've tried to use static ip,to not sleep, set router and phone to th same channels, but SOMETIMES it uses data...

mostly the strange thing is that it loads (some) mobile pages, but NEVER a desktop like page...

even the market does not connect...

on Sense it is PERFECT...

does this make any sense? What differs the wifi in sense and non-sense roms??

its kinda weird that I am stuck to only sese builds If I want to use a wifi network...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 89luca89:
up :-(

no one have a response? :-(
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
Nope, not at all. Personally, I have switched to another router again, and it works flawless. So my phone is just unable to connect to my ISP's stock modem/routeur, but only it (for now).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 89luca89:
up.... :-(

still no possible any connection with routers with non-sense builds...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] LiFE1688:
Just wondering, what is your WIFI MAC ADDRESS on your phone? you can check that out in

Gingerbread

Settings -> About Phone -> Status

Froyo

Settings -> About Phone -> Hardware

Make sure you turn on the WIFI first before checking.

If your MAC is 00:00:00:00:00:00

You know where your problem is. :P

Newer Kernels such as MDJ's 10.x generates a MAC address based on your IMEI I think, therefore the MAC Address is always the same. However older Kernels do not, and they leave the MAC Address as 00:00:00:00:00:00 which cannot be used by certain routers.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 89luca89:
HI thx for the reply :D

I always use MDJ kenrels or the prj one! So the mac is like 00:90:4c24:84:EC

It's always the same for sense and non sense ones...

Dunno...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 89luca89:
up...

seems a strange behaviour:

It says connected (on the phone), I obtain ip adress from router, mac adress is "normal", but on router says "NOT CONNECTED" (even if on the phone I'm connected....)

Would it be a router problem or a phone problem?

The strange is that with same MAC and same IP, on Sense IT WORKS!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] LiFE1688:
Install terminal emulator, then do

getprop net.dns1

getprop net.dns2

or if you have adb.exe and you know how to use it, do:

adb devices

adb shell

getprop net.dns1

getprop net.dns2

Then tell me what you get.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 89luca89:
Hi, thx for the reply :D

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]

Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\System32>adb shell

* daemon not running. starting it now *

* daemon started successfully *

# getprop net.dns1

192.168.1.1

#getprop net.dns2

#

This is the output from adb....

first one is the ip of my router (on wich I result disconnected...)

I've tried so many times to task29, reflash HSPL, reflash Magrld, android, recovery...boot android from sd...

even from sd, If I use a sense build is ok, if is NOT-sense, it won't work..

I'm so confused

EDIT:

just for comparing, on my Milestone, wifi works flawlessy, and the output is:

dns1

192.168.1.1

dns2

8.8.4.4

???
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nbhor:
Same Issue

Finally someone is having same issue like me. I have used 'n' SD builds and 'n' NAND builds and almost all non-sense builds have issue with wifi as explained. Phone is able to connect to router valid IP address and valid MAC address, but no internet (strange).

I have posted this issue before but no one able to answer is properly. Can someone find working solution for this (I dont want to replace my router). I do get working wifi with Motoman's Evo Carbon build.

Is it the specific kernal having issues with wifi? Tried so many NAND build from MDJ, gauner kernal but no wifi. Please let me know if you need any test results from my side.

Currently I am running WP7 from NAND and trying to get Android from SD.

Thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Gary.M:
I found Dandiests DesireZ SD build had this wifi problem, while the other sd desireZ build didn't. Both are sense, so there may be a clue in the difference between those builds.

Sent from my HTC HD2 Android
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] LiFE1688:
Well, as you can see, your router tells your phone that the router is going to be the DNS, but on the other build which the wifi is working, that phone refuses to believe it, and puts has a backup DNS as 8.8.4.4 which is google's secondary public DNS.

What is the brand and model of your router?

Anyways, the fix is:

adb shell
setprop ro.kernel.android.ndns 2
setprop net.eth0.dns1 8.8.8.8
setprop net.eth0.dns2 8.8.4.4

The other way is to use the advance wifi menu somewhere, which I never had to set, so I don't really know where it is.

Your problem is a router problem, not really the phone, perhaps at one time it was suppose to pass the WAN DNS address over to the LAN IPs during dhcp lease, or perhaps it was suppose to work as DNS server relay, but it isn't doing its job properly.

But yah, manually set your DNS, use

adb devices
adb shell
getprop net.dns1
getprop net.dns2

to double check after.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 89luca89:
hi :-(

Tried the suggestion you give me, now when I connect to the router's wifi, the output is

#getprop net.dns1

192.168.1.1

#getprop net.dns2

8.8.4.4

so it's the same as the Milestone, BUT it STILL says I'm connected (on the phone) but NOT on the router!

if I'm disconnected from all (plane mode) if I use the getprop in teminal it gives me the 2 google's dns

8.8.8.8

8.8.4.4

As for counter-prove, I've loaded my sense custom build, connected to wifi:

On routers it results connected, wifi works well and goes in internet flawlessy

#getprop net.dns1

192.168.1.1

#getprop net.dns2

#

so it does not have a second dns, but still works well....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 89luca89:
up...

tried also with SD builds, and it's the same identical!!

(using the stripped down [WM ROM]DROID ROM - JN Foundation as windowsmobile starter)

No solution???
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] muchelaguito:
I have fixed my issue. In my case I had to change the setting for my wireless N router from using a 20/40 Mhz bandwidth to only 20. It seems that the issue was only present for me when using routers with Wireless-N standard.