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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] PrawnPoBoy:
The US is the last place that the iPhone hasn't been available on multiple carriers. The rest of the world has carriers with both the iPhone and Android phones competing directly, and Android is still doing great there. A Verizon iPhone will probably put a dent in their Android handset sales, no doubt, but there's always going to be a segment of the market that want something cheaper, or more powerful.

So no, Android will be just fine after tomorrow.

And apps are not the be all end all. They only matter so much to iPhone because it's basically just a glorified app launcher with a few apps bundled in. You can't even see the current weather without launching an app.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] NexusDro:
OP, you do realize that the iPhone is available on many major carriers in the the rest of world, right? Do you seriously think the US has the biggest cellphone market? (The answer is no. I'm telling you this since you probably don't know the answer.) Android is still growing at a rapid rate and taking up market share in the rest of the world. We shall see how the iPhone 4 does IN THE US when it comes to Verizon. If iPhone 4 Verizon does destroy the Android, then Android will die ONLY in the US, not the rest of the world.

So what if many apps are ported from the iPhone? Why don't you ask why those developers are porting their apps over to Android if they don't see the potential of Android?

Technically, Android has the best developer that no iPhone developers can compare - Google itself. Where did iPhone's Maps and Youtube apps come from? Which OS has the better Google apps?

You didn't ask, you simply implied that iOS is better. People here are just disagreeing with you. And most of your arguments are surrounding the game department of the iOS. What else do you have? Even if you bring some more things on the table, you still can't argue what I wrote in my first few paragraphs. Enjoy the iPhone. I honestly think it is a great phone, but I hope you didn't type your posts using the iPhone. If so, learn how to fully use your iPhone please, otherwise it would just be a waste, no offense.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] redpoint73:
When people keep talking about apps apps apps for iPhone, they are just talking about games. Really, ask any iPhone users what awesome apps they are talking about that aren't games, and they will not have an answer for you. Or name apps that also exist on Android. Netflix? Yeah, its pretty cool. But its not like its been out all that long for iPhone, and the video selection is pretty limited, AND it will be out for Android anytime now, since it was already leaked at CES.

Seriously, how many games do you need? I love playing games as much (probably more) than the next guy. And there is plenty on Android, and developer support is growing. If you need more games than available on Android, its pretty likely that you need to spend more time on other activities besides playing little casual games on your phone.

Besides, not all developers are in love with Apple. Look at Adobe and PrimeSense (the original developer of the XBox 360 Kinect controller). These are important players, that were completely turned off by Apple's need to domineer and control, and eventually gave up on Apple.

The OP implies that the only reason that not everyone owns an iPhone, is because they are tied to Verizon. There are plenty of people like me that have been on AT&T forever, but have no interest in the iPhone. AT&T customer for over a decade, and I've never owned an iPhone, and never will. If Apple had their way, there would be no variety in hardware, or how we use our phones. There will always be people that find these types of limitations suffocating and unacceptable. Some of us like to have the choice of more than one form factor (say a larger screen, or a smaller one, or a hardware keyboard), or to have a homescreen that isn't just a near-useless grid of shortcuts. It would be a sad place where only one device could exist. Luckily, things don't work that way, and there is always room for competition in just about any business. So with any luck, Android won't be going anywhere soon.

Sure the iPhone is popular. But saying an OS is doomed just because its not the most popular platform, and doesn't have the most games, then that's the same as saying Mac computer shouldn't exist either.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Alpha06:
Android won't die tomorrow

But troll should die today
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cold_heart_ark:
I don't know about others but to me a cell its more like a helping hand or what ever you like to call it. Atleast for the tech lovers like me. But we all have different ways of doing our day to day stuffs. Android appreciates and compliments that. That's why I will go for Android. For the level of freedom it gives you, not how many new cookies it have in the box.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] malte41:
Android is for guys..... iOS is for girls. Really!

http://m.pcgh.de/(S(4c2p4i55naliy455fdiacc45))/News/Articleviewer.aspx?id=802741

Sorry link is in german but the pictures are multi-language :-)

Sent from my DHD using the force...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] burtcom:
My point exactly
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FatTony666:
HAHAHAHA.... I love that that link also shows women have a harder time making up their minds.

But seriously, mobile smartphone operating systems are about preference. And if someone has a preference towards ease of use, simplicity, and asthetics, they'll typically go iPhone. Someone who prefers advanced features, customizations, and hardware diversity will go android. Sure, the iPhone will take some verizon customers but I don't believe it will be a substantial amount. It certainly won't kill Android.

I really see this as a win for Verizon and a loss to no one. Now the, IMO, best carrier will get the only thing that AT&T had over them. Also iPhone fans will win because they can now enjoy their iOS device without the data cap AT&T has. Thank you Verizon for keeping an unlimited option.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] j_breez:
****'s going to be epic if the veiled smoke surrounding this event turns out to be WP7 being announced.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Dizzya05:
Hmmm well good luck wit the iphone tradior. Honey comb gonna do wayyyy bettter byw iphone store got hacked again lol
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] missparker76:
Clichés ... :rolleyes: I'm a girl and I love Android. I would never buy an iPhone but I know lots of guys who have an iPhone :p
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mr_black03:
**Pwn of the Week**
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Tommyboy2k:
That's crazy.... I use to want an iphone but once I grabbed my first android fon and have now leveled up to a vibrant I can't imagine having anything else plus I have the tmo tab.. all is good in my handheld world; good luck verizon iphone users.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bpowell81:
Statistics show that there are a larger percentage of Android users in the US than there are IPhone users. Pretty soon it will be IPhone trying to keep up. Numbers don't lie.....

And yes, even now in Jan 2011 Android is still on top
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] nm8:
iphones, imacs, ipods, ipads are for girls,

so the answer to your question is NO ... that's N. O.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] aplusgfx:
Personally, I love my Android! I have a couple buddies who have iphones and I love showing them everything I can do. Every other week I change my phone completely i.e. new layout, new functions, new widgets, it's almost like having a new phone every week. Meanwhile they change their wallpaper! If you like choice, you like Android!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] galaxys:
Android is alive and well...it will just keep getting better in 2011! :cool:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] williams37:
I bought an ipad before buying my first droid. You may be part of the general public that is ok with apple's cookie-cutter OS, but I can't stand it. I will gladly trade my ipad for a galaxy tab or equilivant hardware android tablet strictly to be rid of iOS4. I'm sure the iphone will sell great on verizon, but I doubt anyone that know's the difference will be affected in the slightest.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kaiei123:
i dont know how many developer there hav in MAC, but is sure got limit. Android developer is infinity, u should worry about when iphone will meet the crisis more then asking this meaningless question.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] gabrialxue:
Android definitely is the milost flexible operating system so no matter what happens, it will live on in some form, but I doubt it will be affected.

Also seems like the OP might have conceded defeat, I hope so because he crossed the delicate line of intellectual debate and being a rude troll
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 1loudsvt:
funny topic...friend of mine was just home for the holidays with his new iphone 4. We have always been competitive so of course he was showing it off and with each thing he showed me i one upped him...the real winner was when i showed him angry birds and he immediately wanted it...free on the android market...2.99 from apple lol. then of course we tried the death grip on each phone and well im sure you know how that went.

I have used every mobile os since the early days of windows mobile and done some basic development for them all. android is by far the best hands down. all apple stuff is just pretty overpriced hype...and thats it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BigBonkers:
Ok guys Gameloft hates Android, EA hates Android, Game Makers Hate Android. Netflix not here yet........ If there is an app that both Android and Ios have the Iphone version looks better and behaves better. Slugfest??? Compare the android version to ios. Youll laugh.......Angry birds is a year old on Iphone. Android is good for Wallpapers and weather clocks LOLOL Ive had 5 android phones on Verizon from the Eris to the fascinate........both could use same apps except for maybe 2 or 3 HARDWARE is not the most important aspect!

The Iphone 4 came out in June of 2010.......there is not ONE phone on the market with COMPLETE better overall hardware!!! ON THE MARKET MEANING NOT COMING SOON.....Galazy S is close (super amoled or retina is a personal choice), Same processors, And the galaxy s is made of plastic....Galaxy s has a better GPU (but whats the point when nothing takes advantage of it)

Its about the APPS guys.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kschang:
There's really no point in doing "my ____ is bigger/better than your ____" when it comes to phones.

Android phones just got LTE and dual-core and 1GB of RAM and Tegra 2 GPU.

iPhone 5 may match that in a few months, but for now, Android has the upper hand in hardware.

Android phones range from the cheapo 320x200 500 MHz resistive screen Donut phones all the way up to dual-core 1 GHz Tegra 2 4.3 inch hi-rez screen Gingerbread phones. That's a full range of selection, from Econobox all the way up to Performance vehicles.

Apple has only, well, 2 models. They are higher end, but they reflect only ONE segment of the market. Call it... luxury saloons.

Another better iPhone may shrink the market for Android a little. Some analysts think that Verizon will double iPhone sales. I think they are way too optimistic, at least until iPhone 5 comes out.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Hannigan174:
Op is Troll. Just leave.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Sysiphus1981:
sony will make as android / playstation portable with tegra. nuff said about dying.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BigBonkers:
@kschang Ummm tegra Phones 1 gb RAM???? Uhhhhh you just named a phone that is not out yet. HAhaha and wont be out for a while.

Both are good , but iphone just offers more. No denying!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cocaice2009:
iphone is a toy for kids and ladies...not for us, to me iphone is too boring
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] martyotaku:
troll enjoy ur games on your cdma network
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] XNine:
Marry me....

ON TOPIC.

There's LOTS of great devs for Android. Just because they aren't BIG NAME companies doesn't mean that there is no developer support out there. Actually, just about every app I have is from a small developer.

Why do you think BIG NAME companies buy small name companies? Because the small name companies are the ones that are innovating in todays market. They take their idea and run with it, where as a BIG NAME company has a thousand Board Meetings before deciding on an app.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] nebenezer:
L..M..A..O!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] oldmanofskye:
@bigbonkers:

There is no way to reason with you, you are clearly an apple fanboy and I think I speak for everyone here - the sooner you get yourself an iphone, and move to a different forum - THE BETTER!

Sent from my Desire HD
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ramdroid77:
In 2010 we were told: "iPhone 4 it will change it all" - what happened? Android surpassed both iPhone and BlackBerry in worldwide smartphone sales.

Now we hear: iPhone 5 is near - what will happen? Android will catch up on Symbian as well (already did in Asia.... last year)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] nagasgura:
Hey, if you hate android so much, switch to an iphone. Don't come ripping on it on the android dev site. Of course, no os is for everyone, but the beauty of the android market's openness is the ability for everyone to develop applications. This leads to innovations far greater than what's capable on the iPhone.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] beanfarmer:
i own a ipod touch and a macbook pro, but i would never own current gen iphone, android for me is the best mobile os, i mean i have a htc magic (second android device availabe here at least) and its running 2.2.1 thanks to the cyanogen devs like :) also iphones are really expensive in comparison to android phones of the same class.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] souljaboy:
yes because north america is the world and whatever happens there happens everywhere and also becuz everyone wants an iphone but theyre just on different carriers so yes the world will explode tomorrow !!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] NexusDro:
Same can be said about the iPhone 4. It doesn't have COMPLETE better overall hardware than other phones. Galaxy S is not close. It is better, strictly speaking in terms of hardware. Just because you said that the Galaxy is made of plastic, it is not better than the iPhone4? But you just proved that the Galaxy S's electronic hardware is better, which is very important.

It's ok for an iphone fan to feel threatened by Android. *pats*
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cameltoe752:
well the iphone has been announced for Verizon and my Incredible didn't self destruct so i think we are good
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BigBonkers:
Robots dropping like flies!!!! Wow I can now get a real phone!!!!!! Android is garbage and im not afraid to say it!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] oldmanofskye:
You are really pathetic... You'll do just fine in apple world.

Sent from my Desire HD
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ickyboo:
For all the people who says iPhones rock for games. Its true. So why not just go buy a iPod touch for games and media which also saves power on your real phone, a awesome android phone. I love android due to its openness and Apps, I do have iPod touch but its been months since I've powered it on, not everyone wants to play games on their phones as it simply sucks due to crap control methods . In other news the rest of the world doesn't give a crap as they never had locked iPhones and its still shown that android is leading. So no robot deaths as you say

Sent from my Atari Portfolio running GeOS and a 300bps modem.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] shinglers:
Not even close. My wife has an iphone anew she sees what I can do. She is currently looking for an Android phone. Over time Android will do to apple what Microsoft did to them. Android dead......NOT!!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ickyboo:
Didn't the galaxy come out in June also? I got mine on July 4th. Iphone4 runs at 800mhz BTW. And did you know Samsung makes the CPU? Its basicly a hummingird CPU with slimmed down specs and slower Gen CPU (535 compared to 540 on sgs) iPhone is basicly a sgs with a lg screen running apples os. Nothing special about it Cept for the death grip and glass backing which cracks

Sent from my Atari Portfolio running GeOS and a 300bps modem.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DigitalJedi:
I can't say who I work for be let's just say I have an inside scoop on the phone world. Numbers don't lie and this pencil pushers here are good at what they do. iPhone users are dropping off like flies. They've been around for years and seen no real improvements not to mention the fact that you can really only plug them in and sync them legitimately to 1 computer. People are bored with them and are starting to notice that other phones can do more. There will always be Apple fanboys sporting iPhones. It isn't a bad phone for someone who wants something plain and simple either. A lot more attention is being paid to Android phones now. I know that I used to know 1 other person that had an Android phone besides myself a couple years ago and we are both network admins/technicians. My friends and family said that Android was for geeky/techy people only. I knew probably 30+ people with iPhones. Now almost all of those iPhone users I know have Android phones. Even my 53 year old father is walking around with a rooted Droid X. Android phones aren't going anywhere. They're here to stay for quite a while.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] JimJam707:
Bai.

You won't be missed if that's what you want. We don't like trolls.

Bugger off.

Also. How is android garbage?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DanWilson:
Go and rape a cow.

Does iOS have USB-OTG?

Does iOS have custom ROMS?

Does iOS have a working alarm?

Does iOS have openness? Custom fonts? Custom launchers?

Does iOS have BlueTooth?

Now that that's out the way, I guess I can let you resume sucking Jobs ****.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] JimJam707:
Beautiful Bro.

Up top?

*raises hand*
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] trixnix:
hahahaha! lmao!! nice one!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DanWilson:
*slaps across face*

Damn I have bad aim!

XD

Nah, you know I love you.

TeamLlama! *High fives*
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] trixnix:
not "tommarrow" its "tomorrow"

for Gods Sake!! lmao!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Beackman:
Iphone beats android?????

No way, i never liked the iphone, crap "smartphone" for lazy ppl, the hardware of Iphone is nothing new in this. the hipe on iphone is soooo high, cuz this hipe they have more "apps", A.K.A Games, and android have ports not only from iphone but from others O.S too, i used WinMo for about 2 years, the first time i see and used Android, i never gonna out this world.

iphone still no have BT file transfer?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DigitalJedi:
lmao. I was just about to point that out. Kinda makes the thread lose credibility!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Babydollll:
Can't we just revoke this idiots xda membership? Please!?!?

Sent from my Llama powered N1 courtesy of the xda app! Llama Power!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] orb3000:
Anything but iphone!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] martyotaku:
jk android4life!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] blockhead42:
I think this will definitely take a big hit out of Android. Most people I know with android phones know nothing about android. It was just a smartphone they got because they couldn't get the iPhone. However I don't see Google abandoning android. It will continue to have googles support, and the community will thrive on. MOst people here don't care if android has 30 or 10 percent market share, we will develop for, and work with android anyways. Android has a much more complicated UI compared to the iPhone which I think scares people away. They just want their endless pages of icons. Most people are techies, and wont care about android's vast superiority, and customization. However, for those on XDA, android will always be the mobile OS of choice.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BigBonkers:
im at the funeral as we speak........... robots droppin like flies out here!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] johnkan:
Why would Android die because a new iPhone on Verizon? :-S

Verizon isn't here in Sweden for example. So we won't get a new phone. We have always had the iPhone avalible on all carriers so...

Sure it will take a hit but surly not die, i would never choose an iPhone before an Android :-)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] nealante:
!!!!!!!!!!!!android!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] gursud:
What the hell is this verizon:-P
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ramdroid77:
Of course it will not die. Maybe the sales of the next hand-full of Android phones in the US are affected. But the US is not the world, so what.....

I remember in Q4/2009 Gartner predicted that Android will surpass iPhone in 2012. Well, it already did in Q4/2010. Now it's predicted that in five years the market share is around 50% for Android and 20% for iPhone (which is currently only around 14% believe it or not). I bet we hear similar news already in like 2 years, and like I mentioned before, in Asia Android is already #1 NOW!

And currently I agree the "bigger" software companies put their first attention on iPhone, with Android being only second choice, but this will soon change. Just look at Gingerbread's new NDK which now allows to fully port native C/C++ applications to Android. Developers will like this, especially Game developers!!!

I don't believe iOS will die either. They will co-exist for a long time. However Android definitely will have a bigger influence because it's not limited to one boring device.

What you also need to know is that Android due to it's open-source nature can be ported to any hardware. Not only phones and tablets. Android is already used in cars. Where's iOS here? Where's the iCar? No I don't believe this HA HA....

As you see, Android is alive and kickin' and there's a bright future ahead!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BigBonkers:
Never trully meant it will die. Android will always be on MORE phones.....but is that really a positive? More phones different resolutions, etc etc.....thats bad news if you want a complete media device!!! DEVS dont like that.

So i meant that in the USA and in the DEV department it will fade and become a common phone.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] AndroidKills:
Hmm i had an Iphone3gs and switched to Mytouch3g, probably one of the best things I've done.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] NexusDro:
CDMA technology means no simultaneous voice and data :( Such a let down for a data driven device like the iPhone. Well CDMA Androids are obviously equally affected.