yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software Development] necrohades:
i can't tell exactly the reason why it's failing. might be due to some apps i added, or maybe because i took out SE's Videoplayer, and replaced it with the stock android. i'll see if i'll have time this weekend to do a clean install (planning to flash my x10mp anyway), and i'll post what i can.

cheers!
[Android Software Development] fredley:
Thanks for your help!
[Android Software Development] necrohades:
ok, just flashed my x10 mini pro, installed astro, stegdroid, and aLogcat.

sdcard still has the apps i got before flashing, located in ext2.

i've attached my log file. i haven't yet learned how to read them, and of course, i do not know what to look for, hehe :)

hope this would be of help. i'll be building back my x10 now to custom specs. xrecovery really helps in this situations :)
[Android Software Development] necrohades:
sorry, i forgot to attach the log earlier.

here it is now :)
[Android Software Development] fredley:
Updated to version 0.6, a few bugfixes (should get fewer force closes) and a help screen with a bit of info about what it does and how it does it!
[Android Software Development] necrohades:
0.6 still not working on x10 mini pro :)
[Android Software Development] fredley:
Sorry for the long delay, I've been bogged down with work, and actually writing my dissertation. An update is finally here, lots of bug fixes and optimizations including:

* Fixed bug with sharing files in paranoid mode

* Better memory management, should work more reliably with longer messages

* Reduced error rate (less garbled messages)

* Reduced file size by 33%

Let me know how it goes, all feedback at this stage is immensely helpful!
[Android Software Development] fredley:
A small update to 0.75 -

* Added multicasting to contact groups

This is why the Contact access permission was required on the previous update to 0.7 (I was in the process of building this part but forgot to change the permissions back when I published)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] XperianPro:
Here is multytouch firmware for x8 by sony ericson.

I will test it now.

Link: http://developer.sonyericsson.com/c...1922/x10_x10mini_x8_eclair_2.1.A.0.390.tar.gz
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] HAKA:
wow! m testing it too!

but how to test it? newbie!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] pattu32:
I think you need to replace orginal files, by files from this package. I 'ill wait for someone smarter than me.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] trapacska:
it's raw. so you cant try it. :)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] HAKA:
but how to try?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] savin2:
I'll try to flash it as I have to reinstall my firmware. I will tell you if it worked.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] hugerth:
How to install? Through xRecovery?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] savin2:
I think so
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] islaX:
:D, that's sources)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Asdoos:
so when I update via PCC is my phone still rooted ?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] hugerth:
In x10 threads guys are writing that we can't install it now, cause its only source code, not ROM or sth...
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] m4tt94:
It needs to be compiled...
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] trapacska:
i said that tooo. IT'S RAW, OR SOURCE!

Do Not Flash It!

(because your phone will be bricked. :) )
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] hugerth:
So we won't get 2.2, but MT Support for X8 will be amazing update.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Asdoos:
So when we find a way to compile it won´t work ?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] savin2:
It can't be flashed. Don't worry.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] CaptainZap:
Never expected multitouch on the X8, but if this is true then Good Job S.E. Maybe we'll change their heart to give us froyo also.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Asdoos:
I hope so :D
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Rikcon:
Wow.....MT on X8,great news everyone ))
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] trapacska:
x8 has capacitive touch screen (cts) so we don't have multi touch by hardware.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Imppy:
it'll be nice if this multi-touch does get implements with the x8 :)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] krasus1111:
how to i can tray it with xrecovery?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] XperianPro:
How can be if writes x8 on SE website.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] savin2:
Please, inform yourself. Xperia x8 will have multi touch in 1 week.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
X10 maybe will have multitouch.

Surely not the X10minis or the X8.

Otherwise provide a link for proof.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] DerEineDa:
I don't believe it, too.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] droidjens:
Since you apparently have a source for this information, could you kindly provide so I too can inform myself?

As far as I can see, latest word from SE on anything related to the x8, is from late November.

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/category/xperia-x8/
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] XperianPro:
Maybe we can do,something with this files.

But what then will be with multytouch when SE working on this.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] refract:
Apparently, x10 mini ( ordinary one ), is the only phone from ( now older, as their successors are being developed as we speak ) Xperia Android line of phones ( obviously excluding x1 x2 and the new x12/arc, w/e floats your boat ), that actually has a screen that supports dual/multi touch.

Articles I've read, basically state that x10, x10 mini pro and x8 have single capacitive touch screens, which in theory don't necessarily support multitouch of any sort, and yet you've all seen that x10 video where the guy is casually pinchzooming and explaining stuff.

So as I said in my post yesterday, hardware doesn't support classic version of multitouch obviously, although I guess they've managed to change the software to allow usage of a more primitive version of multitouch ( check the x10 video, near the end of it, when the guy shows the multitouch benchmark app, you can cleary see that what they've developed is a gimp version of multitouch, a functional one obviously, yet plagued by the lack of actual hardware support for it ).

I'm no expert in the field, but logic tells you that if the phone supports touch screen ( duh ), there's no reason it shouldn't recognize, support and register at least an extra press on the screen, purely through software solution. Does it create x/y axis problems due to hardware limitations ? Sure. But hell, I'll take that over nothing.

TL;DR - what they're delivering us is probably a software version of multitouch, plagued by the lack of multi-touch controller in the screen, but a functioning one, nontheless
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] karun11:
@refract

Yes, the mini has a clearpad 2000 solution,which supports dual touch. No info on what the others have.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] HAKA:
guys keep an eye on this-

http://www.ptcrb.com/ctiastaff/complete/view_complete_request.cfm?modelid=17877

they haven't yet certified the latest firmware for x8 but they have certified for x10,

hope to get the updates in coming weeks!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] techno28:
Hey guys, I've just checked the white papers of the X8, X10mini and, X10mini pro. All reveal that the display is capacitive(single touch), only the arc has a multi touch display.

I have an Xperia X8 and I'm waiting for an update.

I just came across this video and I can't figure out how this guy did it on the phone.

Check after 6:02

www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=oTbZ2v5j8tA

Sorry being a newbie I can't post links.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] hugerth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTbZ2v5j8tA

6:02

What the ?!!??! He says that X8 has pinch to zoom :O And he is using it!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] XperianPro:
I dont belive.

Pinch zoom on gmaps and mobile browser.

Thats one big sure we will get multytouch.

But how!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] savin2:
And this was when the phone had android 1.6 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????????????????/
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] techno28:
Guys listen carefully, he said that gmaps has multi-touch but the browser doesn't support multi-touch.

The video was posted on 20th October, even before the Updates rolled out. Maybe that particular version of gmaps supported Multi touch?.

I am pretty sure that the X10 multi touch software is compatible with the X8.

I hope SE gives us the update.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] hugerth:
But we all tried it on 1.6 and without effects... I posted there comment for author to tell me how he sets MT.

And who using stock browser ;P
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] DerEineDa:
The guy on the video probably had a prototype version of the X8. Maybe they had multitouch in an older prototype.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Tobi@s:
Just chatted with the Sony Ericsson support... They have no informations about the Multitouch update for X8 -.-
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] hugerth:
SE Support is bad source for any news...
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] techno28:
Yes they themselves are clueless, the management is not keeping them updated. And they are the ones facing the wrath of angry customers.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] trapacska:
i am sure that x8 has not multi touch. but i found a dolphin browser witch "inject" pinch-to-zoom into original browser, but that's emulated, and not multi touch.

(dolphin and pinch-to-zoom works on 1.6, for me in 2.1 is not working.)

for multi touch needed hardware support. it's sure.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] hugerth:
Why?

Maybe it's strategy of SE company - they stopped multitouch drivers for X8 because it's budget phone, not mid-high. And it could be only software problem. Why not?

SE is showing straight way for all customers who want multitouch or othear features - buy X10 or Arc (soon) and you will have it, not in X8...

Buy more expensive phone and you'll get it.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Tobi@s:
But why will the X10 Mini/Pro get the update, too? It's a non-expensive phone, too...
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Disastery:
Guys, you are wrong a little - multitouch and pinch-to-zoom are different things. X8 will probably get pinch-to-zoom, but multitouch - never.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] hugerth:
I asked again - why?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Imppy:
X8 does not have the hardware to support it
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Disastery:
no hardware support,man. It's not iphone , the iphone and other devices,that support multitouch screen, have another type of screen. We can only have dual touch or very buggy "multitouch", that you won't want to use.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] XperianPro:
We will get dual touch because i see configurations only for dual touch not multytouch
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] klaus74:
will we be able to play at least guitar hero? :D
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] mati96PL:
No kur...!!! Idiots , you seems to don't have x8 !!!

X8 THE HELL HAD HARDWARE SUPPORT , JUST DON'T HAD THIS FU***NG SOFTWARE SUPPORT

Thx for advice...
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
Guys, if you REALLY want to test it out I can compile it for you. It will take time and resources, and, on top of that, I will not be trying it out, I will just post the images to flash and you will use them at your own risk and report back.

If at least 5 people ask me to do it, I will do it.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] maxikorona:
I think more than 5 ppl want have it and teste it

i can be frist tester ;)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Tobi@s:
2nd teser :)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] zackie012:
I also want to test it for u! :)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] HAKA:
me too!! ;)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] stoyandim:
I want to be a tester too.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Blagus:
I'm ready to test it too... :D
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] tn9:
sign me in ;)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] robintswe:
I can also test it!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] revenge50:
@ all if u want new fw updates 4 SE Xperia X8 and the X10 family then support us

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=904941

A multitouch will srsly not bad ^^
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
woha, alright guys, I'll be working on it and try my best. :)

Cross-compiling isn't an easy thing but I can handle it... give me a week time and you'll have the firmware compiled.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] mitex:
i want test,,,,:):):) sory my english bad,,
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Blagus:
@donluca

If you compile it, how are we going to load it (kernel) in our phones? You know the way how to make signed .sin files or am I missing something?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
It should output an image file ready to flash on the phone/emulator.

I'm sorry I'm not an expert in android, all I can do for you is compile the thing and post the image compiled for you to test it :(

Anyway, this thing is a mess, it is full of errors and I'm having a lot of trouble in compiling it... it must be some kind of beta firmware.

I'm fixing the errors one by one by now.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Disastery:
donluca

Waiting for it too, regards.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Blagus:
But are you sure you can make signed .sin file? Because we can't write unsigned .img-s or .sin-s...

For that we would need developer loader.sin
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
First attempt produced a non-functional zImage file, I'm changing the toolchain and try to compile it again.

Anyone has a clue on what to do with this zImage file?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Blagus:
Not usefull... if you can make .img or, even better, but not very likely, .sin, then it might be usefull....
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
As far as I can see it seems that the zImage contains the updated kernel. I'm pretty sure all we have to do is to put it inside an already existing image to get the job done.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
Alright, I have successfully compiled the kernel: the output is a zImage file that is contained into the kernel.sin file.

As soon as I discover how to unpack the file, swap zImage and repack, I'll post it so you guys can test it.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] MrNameless:
Flash the zImage with:
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Blagus:
Is this really going to work? I don't remember anything about fastboot on X8 was ever mentioned here...
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
I tried with the android emulator in the SDK but I just got a Waiting for device.

I'm uploading it for you guys, so you can test it.

Obviously, use it at your own risk as I decline every responsibility for whatever damage. ;)

EDIT: it seems that fastboot isn't working, at least for me.

If there's a way to swap my zImage with the one in kernel.sin it should work.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] MrNameless:
http://forum.samdroid.net/wiki/showwiki/How+to+flash+kernel+zImage+manually
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
I'll try this in VM and see if it works
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] MrNameless:
You should try it on X8, not on VM :D
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
I know, but as I said before, I am not willing to touch my x8 for test.

People asked for a compiled kernel and so I gave it to them. I'm trying to help testing this in VM.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] MrNameless:
:p I Understand it, lets' wait some users that try it!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Blagus:
@MrNameless

I'd try this, however tutorial you gave is useless because xbin folder doesn't contain bml_flash... Xperia's bootloader isn't even hacked, if that's required for flashing zImages... Can you write tutorial for Xperia? Also I haven't heard of zImages or fastboot on X10 or X8 - Googling also didn't give me anything...
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] MrNameless:
Have you already tried fastboot flash zimage path/to/zImage [case sensitive] ?

EDIT: Try this too http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7351195
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
I'm afraid that will not work since X8's bootloader hasn't been hacked. :(

The only way to put the new zImage is to put it into kernel.sin (which, btw, is the normal boot.sin that other androids have).

if you happen to know how to unpack and repack the boot.sin file we should be fine.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Blagus:
I've tried that but fastboot stays at < waiting for device > - fastboot simply can't see my phone.

I've already told you - tell me how to enter fastboot on X8 and I might be able to boot this zImage...
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
Meanwhile I have recompiled again the kernel with another toolchain.

This time it gave me no error, so it should be a "cleaner" image.

Anyway, if we happen to succeed in injecting our zImage, try both of them.

(or just wait for the official release :P )
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] MrNameless:
Try the new zImage!!!

I think that it won't happen :p
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
OT: nameless mi sono accorto solo ora che sei italiano asd

il problema non è che la zImage non funziona, ma che non abbiamo accesso al bootloader perchè è criptato. Se fosse possibile decriptarlo sarebbe tutto fattibile.

Inoltre questo è solamente il kernel, senza software, quindi non penso che basterà ad attivare il multitouch... in pratica mi sa che mi sono smazzato tutto il giorno per niente.

--

I was thinking that what we have now is just the kernel image, without software or anything else. I strongly doubt that it will be enough to enable multi/double touch on our X8.

But SE released only the kernel, so that's all we can have for now which is, IMHO, pretty useless. :(

Anyway, it would be cool to give it a go and see what happens. :)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] MrNameless:
Lol, this is funny :D

hai pm!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
I found another program to flash the zImage.

Here is the description on how it works:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=765724
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] techno28:
I think the X8 should get the update.

A single capacitive screen can support pinch to zoom, and I think dual touch to some extent. Check this video, it clearly shows that the LG Optimus one has software multi-touch.

www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=jnPsY6Z6Uu4&feature=related

As the screen can detect the second finger, we can use 2 fingers for gaming or maybe the piano app.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
Anyway, here's a quick tutorial on how to flash the zImage:

Download rebdend_ua (you can find it in an attachment here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=765724 ) and put it in /system/xbin folder of your phone.

Put the zImage in the root of your sdcard.

now gain access to the terminal (either by the phone itself or by adb).

In case of adb, these are the commands to issue to gain access to the phone's shell:

./adb shell

These commands are in common:

su

/system/xbin/redbend_ua restore /sdcard/zImage /dev/block/bml7

when it has finished reboot your phone and cross your fingers.

DISCLAIMER: THIS CAN PERMANENTLY BRICK YOUR PHONE.

BY BRICK I MEAN THERE IS NO GOING BACK, YOU HAVE TO SEND IT TO SONY ERICSSON AND HOPE THEY WILL BE NICE ENOUGH TO NOT MAKE YOU PAY ENORMOUS QUANTITY OF MONEY TO FLASH YOUR X8 BACK. OTHERWISE YOU CAN JUST THROW IT IN THE RECYCLE BIN.

IF YOU FEEL LUCKY, THEN TRY FIRST WITH THE SECOND VERSION OF THE ZIMAGE AND GOOD LUCK.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Blagus:
Edit:

lcd_init(518): ioctl set info fail
lcd_init(524): Error: Failed to map framebuffer device to memory.
: Invaild argument

I've chmodded it to 777, everything is typed correctly, but this error always appears no matter what I try. I've booted in xRecovery and /system is mounted, /sdcard isn't.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
it will not work in the emulator because the emu needs the goldfish kernel (an hacked version) to work.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Blagus:
I've striked that part out (now removed to avoid confusion).

I tried it and it gives me error as written in above post.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
ah ok ;)

Anyway, unless you work or know someone at SE to recover your phone (or know a method to restore the bml7), I strongly discourage trying doing this.

IMHO it is better to just wait for the official release.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] revenge50:
so you can do that for supporting new fw updates for X8 and X10 family

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petition-Android-22-for-Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-series/123850457682141?ref=mf

hit it all pls :cool: ;)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] hugerth:
New update is available.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] novincobra:
good job, i will test soon
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
I've compiled the newest kernel found in SE's developer site.

The version is 2.1.A.0.435.

Hoping that someone will find a way to flash the zImage in our X8 :)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] nos1609:
It's a vodafone release

vendor/semc/packages/apps/vodafone-people	COMMON DEVELOPMENT AND DISTRIBUTION LICENSE (CDDL) Version 1.0
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] donluca:
If I'm not wrong that was in the previous build as well.

Methinks that every distribution has that package since they are distributed worldwide and to all operators.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] revenge50:
common guys,u can do it,u will be successfull if u try it

GOD BLESS U
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Slims34:
How i Install it the Firmware.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] DroidDotBot:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=920669

work in progress, x10 /x10i ???

O.0_'
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] trapacska:
i done it

i tryed with xrecovery, and nothing happened, now i enable two fingers :P

i attached my instllation zip, use it in xrecovery and install custom zip ;)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] trapacska:
no, it is not working
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] suhel28:
yeah doesnt work..
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Blagus:
Is it maybe because update-script in META-INF has got Windows EOL style? I've converted this one into UNIX style, maybe that should do it...?

Edit: Also, install-busyox is completely wrong... I'll see what I can do, thanks for the idea of using xRecovery, trapacska ;)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] velnens123:
I cannot be patience anymore!

Doesnt work! Please make it work!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] stoyandim:
I'm not sure which of the above 2 files i have to use, but in X10 modded dual touch drivers, at first it didn't work in the browser and in the apps.

Try with 3rd party app, for example the app to check if there's multitouch on you phone (it's in the market) OR the 3D gallery.

If everything works fine, then it's easy to make dual touch work in browser and maps.

Edit: i think that you have to look for moe info in this thread - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=921302. I can't do it cause i dont have the knowledge to do such things :(
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] trapacska:
i done it, and doesn't work :) i think we have to install zimage with another method :)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Blagus:
That's right... We don't even have bml flasher on our Xperia and it doesnt work AFAIK...
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] stoyandim:
Check out this thread - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=935407 . Maybe i will help you
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] karun11:
Just hope you guys manage to get this to work, now that Rikard has mentioned there wont be official dual touch in a post today on the blog.

Hopefully the sham update will have a new kernel so that we can install a 2.2 or 2.3 ROM.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] karun11:
Does the next update add the new kernel for the x8 too? so technically dual touch should be possible rite? any progress on this?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] WARR10r:
Froyo based on same kernel as eclair actually. We wont have any updates such as DT or froyo/gingerbread, that's se developer's words. So we only can hope someone make froyo for us or crack bootloader.. first is reality, look at neigbour topics
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] karun11:
Since froyo is based on same kernel as eclair, will updating to Racht's 2.2.1 floyo ROM add multitouch? Can multitouch be unlocked ib that ROM or is the X8 hardware just not capable?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Blagus:
To enable MT new kernel has to be loaded to phone and that's not possible yet...