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[Vibrant General] allthrottle:
You know, maybe if tmobile gets enough calls for warranty exchanges on these they'll take some initiative to get the issues resolved or get another update out there. The phone in general seems like a lemon. You can fix a lemon, but you shouldn't have to.

I just did my 2nd swap out, this time for the gps...last was for freezing. Sure, I could live with the gps as is. And yeah, there are fixes available that help. But I've spent quite a bit of money on my phone, and shouldn't have to fix it myself.

Sent from my <tw> powered vibrant.
[Vibrant General] d_bot:
join facebook group NeverAgainSamsung
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
^ I'll be adding that to the op on Tuesday morning, thank you!
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
STILL going through with class action

I am STILL pursuing this lawsuit, and I will not give up on anyone

That is all I have to say

I will not give you any more details

it is obvious that If I do I will be attacked and bullied off of this forum

I am still taking all grievances

SinistaBeatz@GMail.com
[Vibrant General] TheMan42:
I

Spoken like a true moron. If you can fix it with a few simple steps, then do it.
[Vibrant General] csdalporto:
Tweeted

Sent from my hacked overflashed vibrant
[Vibrant General] zaphod_fl:
I agree... perhaps neveragain should be modified to something like #disgruntledAtSamsung
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
I wanted something short and to the point.... also something that could be used in a sentence. I don't see the issue with #NeverAgain. The hash you suggested would take 15% of someones tweet (nevermind if someone tried to RT their message).

^^ you criticize, whats your suggestion?
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
I've updated the OP. Please continue with Facebook/Twitter and emailing sites.
[Vibrant General] zaphod_fl:
Good point on the length. Didn't want to go with #SammySux. I like #neveragain but it is used all over the place. Wish we could have something a bit more specific to the issue. I'll put on my thinking cap...
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
If others use it, wouldnt that just help with it trending though? I dont think we could gain any traction if it was JUST us using the hashtag.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
Congratulations with your followers.... do what the F you want. Thanks.
[Vibrant General] nyc3:
So you lied and still dont have a lawyer. And are using this forum to collect peoples private information? How are they still allowing this?
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
Responses in red...
[Vibrant General] zaphod_fl:
#NeverAgain is getting some traction in the Twitter-verse. I also posted a comment on TMONews about it.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
Says the guy who is only criticizing me/this YET has done nothing helpful.

Says the guy who created this thread in Septemeber about an October Froyo release....

Says the guy who has made about 15 negative posts here recently (in multiple threads)....

Says the guy who has nothing else to say...

I'm done man, help in your own way if you want.... but dont bash those who are TRYING to do something. I have froyo, an OTA means jack to me.. some people do not want to root... some people dont want to buy a new phone... some people disagree with Samsungs practices... some disagree with them not releasing source... get off your high horse man.
[Vibrant General] Indigo779:
The sgsgalaxy people are getting rather snarky about it as well.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
^ what do you mean, the people who respond to the tweets/messages?

Awesome... at least they are noticing our frustrations.
[Vibrant General] Indigo779:
Yes, mary seems quite frustrated and annoyed.
[Vibrant General] Indigo779:
Also if you ask for a way to file a complaint with samsung, they will stop talking to you.
[Vibrant General] Indigo779:
Lol, thanks for saving us from our misplaced priorities. Perhaps you could use your powers for a greater good than the forums at xda.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
Did I not already point out that you clearly are missing the point, and that you do not know me or my intentions? I also do volunteer.... should I list it all so I can feel warm and fuzzy. I'm done responding... please quit derailing the thread. If you feel this is pointless and it is not helping, it's been noted.

I'd encourage others to quit responding to this guy as well, all of his posts that I've seen are just trying to instigate.. nothing helpful. Let him fade away.
[Vibrant General] Blown 89:
O.P.,

You're taking a lot of heat for this but at least you're doing something about it. Problems don't get fixed if people don't pursue solutions.

To the guy spewing hate, I volunteer at soup kitchens, they're usually full of a bunch of drugged out homeless people. I'd rather help people who work hard for a living, are clean, and are powerless against a large corporation.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
^ appreciate that, the irony is that these people hating don't realize I have been the one defending Samsung for the past 6 months.
[Vibrant General] robavila721:
@OP don't let ignorant people get to you. I am tweeting #neveragain and even if nothing does happen at least we tried. I just don't understand that people think it's wrong or pointless yet still make it a priority to be here and dish out the negativity.
[Vibrant General] AustinKnight45:
^^ I feel the same, what if we do get sammy to release 2.2 sooner then 2012 deep down inside they would be grateful I'm sure they would never say so cause of pride.
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
I believe I am far from the most business-savvy person around here, so I have a question for everyone.

If you walk into Tmo as a new customer on February 23, 2011 and you see a Samsung Vibrant with 2.2 stock sitting next to a Samsung Vibrant 4G with a FFC with 2.2 stock which one are you going to buy? I'm assuming the 4G, right? Almost identical, but with 4G radio and FFC.

So why would Samsung hold off on FroYo just to sell more phones? Who in their right mind is going to pick an old Vibrant over a 4G version if they are running the same version OS?

I just don't see the incentive to hold back FroYo for that reason. Now I cannot speculate as to why they may be holding it back, but that reason seems odd to me. Maybe I am missing something, was hoping someone smarter could enlighten me.

If I was Sammy and I wanted to sell more 4G's, I'd keep the price of the old Samsung at what it is right now, and only charge a little bit more for the 4G. Say $150/Vibrant or $200/4G.

:confused:

To clarify - I think this effort is excellent. That CAL BS is worthless, this is how to effectively make a change. And of course with your wallet. I just hear all the speculation about holding FroYo back to sell more 4Gs and it was raising a red flag to me.
[Vibrant General] Senorkabob:
Did you guys not see the reasoning?

Allegedly: http://androidcommunity.com/galaxy-s-no-froyo-explained-by-samsung-update-fees-20110116/
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
Ugh, that actually makes sense... I have heard a little about it but didn't actually read about it myself. I wonder if Samsung is concerned that US Carriers will at some point in the near future refuse to sell Sammy products because of this.

I know we should be getting the updates for free, but I somehow feel like I would be a little less upset about this if Samsung offered to "sell" the update to individual users who actually wanted. I know it goes against OHA and all that Android stands for, but so does what they're doing now. Atleast then we'd have an option to get FroYo.
[Vibrant General] swehes:
The other thing is that the international Samsung Galaxy S phones are usually sold unlocked, and not tied to a contract. That would probably be why Samsung is updating through Kies, because they can't upgrade through OTA. They don't have anyone to charge, while here in the USA phones are carrier specific so carriers pay for the updates.

This is pure speculation, but it makes sense in my mind.

This is what we get for carriers using different frequencies and technologies for their phones.
[Vibrant General] XPLANE9:
Yay, 20 tweets, different variants each. I know, I am bored at work.
[Vibrant General] AustinKnight45:
Check what engadget just tweeted..... Samsung says it isn't charging carriers for Android updates, promises Galaxy S status report http://engt.co/e0qX4O
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
WOW... LOTS HAPPENING NOW. Did you guys see that another leak just so timely dropped, enter the latest froyo KA6 (thread).

Thats not all, it includes a Secondary Bootloader (SBL.BIN)... why is that important? This may be the real froyo ready for the Vibrant.

Go grab it, enjoy it..... be pissed at Samsung for not sending it T-Mobile. Keep telling the world whats going on... they ARE listening.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL THE SUPPORT!!! YOU ALL HAVE BEEN AWESOME!!!
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
Keep tweeting people!

PEOPLE remember to keep sending Samsung and T-Mobile both Tweets and write on their Facebook walls.

Now, what is the significance of a secondary bootlader (sbl.bin) in this release?
[Vibrant General] iwillkillyou:
Its true they are kistening, we already got two new leaks since this hashtag for twitter happen
[Vibrant General] Senorkabob:
Lol they're all delusional man.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
Not sure how someone can interpret this as my grandstand... or that the volume of our voices have not been heard. I suppose some are ignorning the responses Samsung has made... even on their tweets "#WeHearYou".... yeah, clearly ALL OF OUR efforts have been wasted, so says ONE guy anyway.

The same guy who is probably flashing KA6... what a joke.
[Vibrant General] eltormo:
Wow do you work for T-mobile or Samsung.?

Because you most,is a phone no one cares about.? How about my damn Vibrant having a stronger GPU than pretty much any android phone or Iphone out there,why should i bought i new phone and forget about this one i just get 2 months ago,which is hardly beat spec wise by other phones.

This phone is powerful enough to run Gingerbread,and froyo,not only Samsung but also T-mobile both are full of sh**,for playing with their costumers.

Leave the man alone at least he is doing something,other than staying stationary waiting for Samsung and phone carriers latest rape.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
Check his last 24 (and counting) posts... they are ALL negative, he things we are crazy for trying to raise our voices.... the guy probably does work for Samsung...

http://xdaforums.com/search.php?searchid=56652839
[Vibrant General] eltormo:
Agree 100%.

Pay no attention to the opposition,there is always people like that every where you go,i think what people like you are doing is the correct thing to do,after all the Galaxy S line of phones is surpass by few phones out there if any spec wise.

The GPU on this phone is a monster,all this power and i some how have to get a new phone,because Samsung after selling it to me as the best thing ever refuse to update it,to force me to buy a new one with the same specs and a few refinements that is sad.

Keep the good work dude,there is people here that support your efforts.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
I've reached my thanks limit today... but thank you.
[Vibrant General] nyc3:
I can respect your efforts so thank you. I commend you for not rapping and making a fool of yourself :D
[Vibrant General] Indigo779:
I'm sure great tales will be told about your crusade as well ;) I have some nails in my garage if you would like to use them.
[Vibrant General] SykesAT:
I see your point but... I think T-mo will have to lower the price of the original vibrant or maybe stop selling it when the new one comes out. If they reduce the price then the more they can differentiate the two units the better for sales of the higher priced unit. If the original vibrant is discontinued then there is no reason to hold back the upgrades.

I believe they will discontinue the original when supplies run out (purely my thoughts, no facts). Could you image if they sold SGS4G, SGS vibrant and Nexus S, don't forget the G2 and MY4G... I mean there is choice then there's lunacy.
[Vibrant General] presence06:
If you don't support the cause or agree with this then don't post in the thread. Just skip over it and move on. Why are you so inclined to post and bash people for trying to make something happen?
[Vibrant General] SykesAT:
OP thanks

@Samsungtweets, @GalaxySsupport, @SamsungMobileUS

US SGS = No working GPS, No open source, No 2.2 as promised... 6 months & waiting, #NeverAgain will I buy Samsung

@TMobile make Samsung treat vibrant owners properly, 2.2 update, working GPS, release source OR sell better manufactures #neveragain sammy
[Vibrant General] presence06:
You're opinion sucks, that's my voice of it. So if you don't like it, go somewhere else and voice your opinion. No one's forcing you to be on this thread and read. Move along.
[Vibrant General] SykesAT:
At this point, I think you have successfully achieved your goal. No need to repeat yourself.
[Vibrant General] the_dave:
It does keep getting brought up by you.

Run along now, I'm sure your soup kitchen and 5000 Twitter followers are wondering why you aren't tending to them.
[Vibrant General] dbacchus:
Great thread!

It is impossible to deny that the OP is succeeding in his goal, for which I give him huge thanks!

Major international media are picking up Galaxy S Samsung story. It's getting big!

NOW Sammy will have to act, and I tend to agree with those who think that the recent flood of 'leaks' is related to the community outrage.

P.S. And yes, can somebody please ban the idiot trolling the thread?
[Vibrant General] AustinKnight45:
+1
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
I appreciate the support, but I can't show it because someone will think I am trying to take credit for your efforts.

Just ignore / don't post re: troll.

I do agree though that this HAS ALREADY been noted as a nodd from Samsung. They have tweeted they have heard us, I think that already proves something.

The latest leak is very nice, strongly encourage you guys to check it out. Will not be long before we have custom roms based off the KA6 leak as well...
[Vibrant General] swehes:
Want to second this one. :) Running Axura 2.2.7.0 with KA6 modem. My phone is flying. Also I have not just once but twice now got response from GalaxySsupport.
[Vibrant General] dcpetterson:
Dude, s15274n, we need to just totally ignore trolls like Topshelf and nodata. They are just lonely guys begging for attention. They will move on to their next troll cave as soon as we stop feeding them.

BTW, love your stickys, helped me more then a few times, and thanks to you, (and a few choice words I had with Phil :D) androidcentral will be dedicating their next podcast entirely to our plight.

Maybe we can get them to mention your hashtag?
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
Thank you for saying something they were really pissing me off

and the only reason they were trolling so hard is cause they want these threads closed

They are trying to suppress our voices

I am still following through with this class action, and I will not stop until we win!
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
I would like to thank everyone who has stood up and fought Samsung in their own way! I commend this thread. I love you all!

once again I won't tolerate this crap that Samsung has done!

#NeverAgain

Regardless of what the naysayers say,

I am still vigorously pursuing this Class Action
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
Awesome, will certainly try and tune in tonight if possible.. doubtful though as I am alone with the kid tonight (wife gets to socialize every now and then).... thanks for letting me know. I will do my best to get on there.

PLEASE CHECK THIS LINK (THANKS DCPETTERSON)

Pay note to the last paragraph.... if you want, go post and be articulate about the REAL issues. Don't just whine. Say why this is an issue.

I am skeptical of AC's position as they are a bit in the middle, and they were retweeting last night a tweet about them being so good for NOT posting about baseless rumors (even though they did tweet about it)... hopefully they are fair in their interpretation. They remain one of my favorite sites, so I have faith.

Thanks everyone!
[Vibrant General] Blown 89:
Samsung is getting hammered by users on twitter/facebook as well as the media by covering it. I highly doubt that Samsung is taking that lightly.
[Vibrant General] Senorkabob:
You guys knowingly bought the phone with 2.1 on it. How is Samsung at all at fault here?

Now if you want to talk only about the GPS I may have to agree with you there.
[Vibrant General] robavila721:
Then samsung shouldnt have tweeted to the world that 2.2 was coming time and time again.
[Vibrant General] brian_v3ntura:
i dont understand why so much hate against samsung. i have never seen an official document saying that we were getting a froyo update before the end of 2010. it was just tech blogs blowing up the whole situation. im pretty sure there is a legitimate reason why the US galaxy s variants have not received an official froyo update... plus with all the leaks, its pretty clear samsung is working on one.

in all speculation, theres another rumor going around that samsung is under an agreement to not release the update before any other carriers (US Big 4)
[Vibrant General] Senorkabob:
While I get your frustration let me just say this.... Many have tried to do the same thing against motorola with the whole cliq fiasco and you all know what happened there. Nothing.
[Vibrant General] AustinKnight45:
I dont think they sold as many clicks, how hard is it to retweet something a few times a day its not very hard or time consuming in my busy life.
[Vibrant General] swehes:
Does a document have to be official for it to be a promise? Samsung has officially on websites and by mouth promised Froyo. Their CEO promised to have Froyo to the Galaxy S phones in the USA within months of launching the phones. Samsung officially on Twitter (they choose to be on there) on the 21st of October of last year, that all Galaxy S phones US models would have Froyo by years end. There are also more written promises that by Samsung official channels.

How about just being honest. Can a person or company no longer be held to their word? If a friend of yours promised you something by the word of mouth and the bail on you, would you be frustrated and hurt for your friend breaking the promise?

Samsung in this case have broken their word. Bath ethics in covering up their reason. Noone will believe a word they say anymore as this is what happened with Behold 2.

I am done dealing with dishonest unethical companies that can't keep their word. If they would just have said when they were releasing the phone that there is a snowballs chance in hell that we would get Froyo, then at least they were honest and I would probably not have gotten the phone.

I think alot of the frustration is the dishonesty to to mention disrespect to their customers.

I don't really care so much about Froyo but the source code that would allow our awesome developers a clean code to work with.
[Vibrant General] brian_v3ntura:
can you show me where they actually said what you claim in their own words without the media molesting it. i can guarantee you that they said nothing abt promising before 2010. ive been following this froyo fiasco for months and can tell you blog sites have blown it out of proportion. i.e. theres a big difference in "promising to release it before years end" and "promise to TRY to release before years end" OR eric schmidt saying there wont be a nexus two...BUT he never said their wont be another nexus. its a simple play on words.
[Vibrant General] spinachtoy:
This is the official support twitter. http://twitter.com/#!/GalaxySsupport

I don't know how to get back to the old tweets without scrolling for a long time, but they surely mentioned it on here several times a day until mid Dec. The standard response to all questions about Froyo for the Vibrant was by the end of the year. I think there should be many from mid Oct.-mid Dec.
[Vibrant General] Senorkabob:
Nah I definitely get that. Talking about all this lawyer nonsense.

And... The number of devices sold is a moot point in this situation. The cliq was stuck on 1.5. Nothing was running on it at the time.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
Several of you are trying to close this thread. Please try and stay back on the topic, regardless of what side you choose. Which, really does not matter... but be respectful.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
Ahh, n/m.. just realized the podcast is tomorrow night... glad I didnt miss it.

http://www.androidcentral.com/lets-talk-about-samsung-froyo-update-weeks-android-central-podcast
[Vibrant General] golmar88:
Wondered why I could'nt find it.
[Vibrant General] SykesAT:
thanks to the mods and admin for cleaning up this thread. While I value opinions from all sides, there becomes a time when one is just trolling with no good intent. Thanks again for dealing with this in a prompt and appropriate manor.

Got a Qu for the rest of you guys. How can you re-tweet your own tweets? I have copied and pasted the same tweets and was given a message stating that I had already posted that message (6hrs had passed), I changed it mildly and posted again. But soon I will run out of variants. How are you guys sending the message multiple times?
[Vibrant General] presence06:
I don't think you can retweet yourself. You have to change it someway or it's considered spam. Just add something small to your tweet and post it.
[Vibrant General] subzerold:
OMG lol look at their ReTweets:

http://twitter.com/GalaxySsupport#
[Vibrant General] nyc3:
Thats only cause of the rap song, well at least thats what vanilla ice will say.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
T-Mobile CEO: FROYO "VERY SOON"

http://m.bgr.com/2011/01/20/t-mobil...+TheBoyGeniusReport+(BGR+|+Boy+Genius+Report)
[Vibrant General] eminembdg:
Could be, though I doubt it, just coincidence that there is now supposed confirmation of 2.2.

I still say that because of the efforts by you all here is the reason for froyo finally coming!

Great work guys, don't back down just yet tho
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
And immediately after that I see that, the CMO for T-Mobile:

CONFIRMED Froyo was going to start rolling out tomorrow.

Check this link...

Do people still think all of our efforts were wasted? This may not be THE reason, but you can't deny the actions of everyone on here MAY have helped~

From all of them, to the nay-sayers, you are welcome.
[Vibrant General] swehes:
More important for us though, are they releasing the source code tomorrow as well?
[Vibrant General] StefanB86:
I hope so! how much time do they normally take to release the source after an upgrade?
[Vibrant General] swehes:
I thought they usually do it the same day.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
Someone sent me a PM for source. I am at work, but I do not believe anything very useful is here now:

http://opensource.samsung.com/

The T959D is the Canadian Fascinate, I believe, which did just get froyo.
[Vibrant General] RobBull69:
+1, but I don't think it'll happen that quickly. GPL requires that it be done withing 60 days. I hope they don't take their sweet time, especially because the I9000 source ware released prior to the Kies update.
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
I dont think source being released is going to be an issue... should not be based off that link.
[Vibrant General] battlekry:
Wooo!!! XDA FTW! The source should available shortly after in my opinion however if the way Samsung handles business in other countries compared to the US in respect to updates is any indication to how long it will now take us to receive the source then were in trouble....lol
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
^ it looks like the froyo source for the canadian fascinate is already up, like I said, and very quickly.... I am at my work pc though and am not able to look very closely.
[Vibrant General] kboater:
without trying to start a debate, looks like all the tweeting may have worked :) thanks OP
[Vibrant General] nyc3:
thank you s15274n you rocked it!
[Vibrant General] kboater:
btw, this may be a dumb question:

what will the source code allow us to do that the developers cant do with all the leaked roms, and now the official being pushed?
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
If we can get the kernel, things like voodoo sound would be my first pit stop. May greatly enhance chances of cyanogen also.