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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tenacious Steve:
Hopefully someone here can better explain the differences, pros, and cons of each.

I've been doing some quick research and looking around, even played with the Nexus S at Best Buy, and it seems the main (and ONLY) difference is that the NS has a bigger screen than the N1.

It's my understanding that they both share the same processor, both have the same amount of RAM, both have the same camera, etc.

The only "advantage" to the Nexus S would be the bigger screen and more on-board memory for apps and such, correct?

I can get the Nexus S for $200 through Best Buy and could in turn sell my N1 with it's dock for $400 (already have a buyer lined up). My biggest question, however, is what does the N1 do that the NS does NOT do? Would this be a logical thing to do or is there something that the NS would be lacking by comparison?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clarksonator:
Well the NS does not have an SD slot so your stuck with the 16GB of storage.

The NS does have a FFC.

The CPUs are both 1GHz but the NS' is of a newer architecture and is a bit faster especially with games.

The NS touchscreen is better.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tenacious Steve:
I only have an 8GB SD card in my N1 and it's been more than enough, so the "limited" 16GB that the NS has shouldn't be a problem for me.

I'm not sure what "FFC" is...can you define/explain?

Faster or even equal speeds in the processor is fine. I just knew it was close and wasn't inferior to the N1 like a lot of other phones that have come out recently.

And what exactly makes the touchscreen better on the NS? Better resolution or just better responsiveness?

EDIT: I think I just figured out "FFC" means "front facing camera", correct? Not something I'd use, but doesn't hurt either.

It seems that there really isn't a reason NOT to do this exchange. Everything that the N1 can do the NS does and then some. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything that I'd be missing out on if I got rid of my N1 after having gotten used to it for so long. Seems like it would be an easy and smooth transition.

How easy is it to obtain all Google Market apps that have already been purchased when switching devices like this? They're all tied to the account, correct?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CodeMonkey:
Pretty much, yes. You can get some exceptions - eg CoPilot Live is fiddly to transfer, but the Android licence is valid cross-device (you need to deactivate the old device first). In general, if you've purchased from the market and use the same account on the new phone your apps should be available without issue.

I've transferred from G1, to Magic, to N1 without losing any apps to date (although I've sworn a bit at CoPilot :-))
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prettyboy85712:
Keep in mind the Nexus S doesn't have a notification led.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dirk:
Apart from the glossy plastic i think the Nexus S is a good device. If it doesn't have the screen inaccuracy or power button failure issues of the N1 it could be a worthwhile upgrade.

Depends how affluent you are feeling right now :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ksnexusone:
I asked myself the same question and I came up with these answers.

N1 is better built

upgradeable sd slot

has a notification led

has less a tendency of sliding out of your hand

same specs

and samsung is notorious about never releasing any updates for any of their phones.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Don't forget the nexus s does not have 2 Mic's. There have been some reports of bad call quality on it in noisy environments with background noise.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech338:
Having owned them both...

NS has the NFC (near field communication), which one day may be nice.

The 16gb limit does not really present a problem.

The screen is bigger and is supposedly better, but I didn't see anything that really made the new screen stand out, it is nice. It is curved slightly, which is kinda nice.

NS does not have the same build quality, and does not have the unibody, metal design. The Nexus S does feel cheap next to the N1, but it is not showstopper. N1 has a much cleaner design and looks much 'sexier' IMHO.

NS does not have the trackball, much less the lighted trackball of the N1. NS does not even have a charge indicator.

NS does not come with a case or dedicated charger (has the brick and a data cable)

NS with gingerbread is fast, but does not yet have the dev support of the N1.

I felt the cameras were about similar.

NS does not have the second mic (as someone else pointed out). Not sure about call quality of the listener on the other end. I had problems with reboots, but Google knows there is a problem and is working on it.

Why o Why did they change the order of the home/search/menu/back keys in the NS -what a pain.

NS no SD slot.

NS does not have the dock pins on the bottom to use with a car/desktop dock.

NS has a front camera and more RAM

I would wait until Gingerbread comes out for the N1 before you jump ship. You have 30 days to send the phone back to best buy if you don't like it...

Just felt that the new NS was not 'Google' enough for me. Just missing too many little things. It is like they were trying to make a new Nexus that is *more* like the iphone. Kinda a sellout thing to do in my opinion.

My opinion is to keep your N1, the NS is not a real upgrade in my mind.

EDIT:

another difference... Both have 512 of RAM. N1 has 512 of "ROM", while the NS has 16gb of storage, 1gb reserved for apps and OS.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tenacious Steve:
Thanks for all the replies, guys! After reading some and doing quite a bit more research, including watching comparison videos on YouTube, I have decided to wait.

The only "new" feature that I'd use with the NS is the bigger screen, but I don't really feel that should stand alone as a reason to "upgrade".

The speed differences in the comparison videos were very, VERY minimal and it appears that the N1 has better graphics handling than the NS. It's possible that the minimal speed differences were simply due to the NS having Gingerbread, so hopefully I'll see an increase with the upcoming update for the N1 although if I don't, it's no big problem since it's still the fastest phone I've messed around with.

Another reason is the battery. I've gone as long as 36 hours on my N1 with a single charge and normal use and usually have 60-70% battery life left after a full 15 hour day of being in use. I hear the NS is barely lasting a day for most people which is more than likely in account for the larger screen.

The MAIN reason I've decided to wait, however, is simply because I don't want to be locked into a 2yr contract for the same phone with a bigger screen when the inevitable dual-processor and expanded function phone(s) come out. The N1 does absolutely everything I want/need out of a phone so I'll be waiting until something comes out and totally blows it away and makes it obsolete.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dirk:
Me too :)

Hopefully it'll be a new Nexus, made by HTC, with great specs!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] babluc:
I sold my nexus one last week and got a nexus s the same day. I loved my nexus one but my logic for selling my phone is deprecation of the phone when i sell it. Sold the nexus one and dock for 370, not great. So that means I payed $200 for the nexus s. If you are in the market to sell it later you will get less for it. In the next couple of months dual core and 4g is coming out and the value will drop for both phones but i feel that the nexus s will be valued higher. It also seem that the resell market for Galaxy S is bigger then the nexus one, due to the fact that more people know what a Galaxy s phone is.

Some thoughts about the nexus s. The phone seems the same on paper but in actuality its much faster compared the nexus one running gingerbread, this could be that the roms didn't have the drivers. The screen is amazing and i like the look of the nexus s, but miss the dock. NS is a lot lighter in the hand but feels cheap when you're pressing the volume and power buttons. The BIGGEST difference is the responsiveness of the touchscreen.

I have ZERO REGRETS on my purchase of the nexus s.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ayvecs:
I have purchased the Nexus S and am still on the fence of whether or not to return it. My previous phone is the Nexus One. The reason that I am on the fence is for the same reason why some people are still trying to decide whether or not to purchase the phone such as there is no led notification, missing sd slot, NFC not really popular at the moment and probably will not be for the next year or two at least in the US, not a dual core phone.

But I will admit it is a nice phone, does have a nice feel, beautiful display, sexy all black face giving it that stealth look, the touchscreen is responsive I don't get all of that wonkiness I used to get with the Nexus one and even with the capacitive touch buttons, those work the way they should. Very responsive in terms of apps seem to respond and open more quickly compared to the N1. It would be nice for google to explain why they chose the phone they chose for there N1 successor, instead of trying to come up with reasons for them.

I have 30 days to decide whether or not to keep the phone. Since I am a T-mobile customer, from as long as I can remember they never really had the hot phones, it was always places like verizon or sprint that had phones that seemed more appealing. And even if t-mobile did end up getting a hot phone it would be like months later after the other networks had that phone for a while ex. razr.

If i had neither an n1 or nexus s and both phones were for sale, I would go for the Nexus S.
[Desire General] caifaz:
Does anyone has a screen template so I can cut standard (larger) screen protectors to fit exactly to my phone?

The problem is that over here (Bolivia) there aren´t available screen protectors for this screen... and buying on online + shipping costs = 20 USD...

thanks in advance

maybe someone can scan an old screen protector so that becomes the template?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boundish:
What does flash mean?. As in flash a Rom or theme.

What is adb and what does it do?

Is there a way to do a complete back-up of the phone before installing custom roms ?so that if the install goes out the window I could use the back-up and have the phone exactly as it was before .

I'm relatively new to this so apologies for the noob q's

Thanks in advance! :-)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
flashing is a term used, when you install either new software or a theme via recovery mode....

adb stands for android debug bridge, its basically a way to communicate with the device remotely ie using a pc or mac.....

after you root and install a custom recovery, you can use a feature called "nandroid" using this you can take a snapshot of your rom as it is (apps, settings, ect) then restore it at will :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boundish:
Are there any tutorials on flashing and using adb

? If so link(s) are appreciated :-)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
adb easy tutorial - http://www.xda-developers.com/android/adb-easy-tutorial/

flashing dosent need a tutorial, you just select the particular zip file from a list and flash it ...... the hard part is rooting (its easy with visionary though)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boundish:
Thanks for the help , I think Android is superb and I want to explore its possibilities without being tied up by anything :-)

Cheers
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
well if you read up, root and s-off, you will have full controll over your device :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ghostofcain:
You could do a lot worse than read This, and I know more experienced users tend to bang about reading threads thoroughly but you really need to invest some time to read and understand at least a couple of guides to rooting and flashing rom's before you attempt anything
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] android167:
Ok, i just bought a galaxy s from T-mobile croatia, version is I9000BOJF1, 2.1.

How can i get 2.2 and get rooted my phone?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
TMobile if they have the upgrade it will be via Kies .

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=723596

jje
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] splish2010:
Have a look at the Android Development Forums.

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=665
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anticimex:
Early this morning, I rooted my Droid Incredible using the Unrevoked 3 method. After doing so, I completely forgot to create a nandroid backup and went ahead to install a custom ROM (Cyanogen Mod). Now here's the issue. I want to get back to the Stock 2.2 sense. I tried to unroot my droid, but nothing seems to be working. Can someone please help?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grikshanks:
You need to flash a stock rom back before unrooting.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anticimex:
Where can I get a stock ROM. I think I just bricked it now because it won't even boot Cyanogen Mod. It's stuck at the HTC Incredible white screen.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazysleepyboi:
Do you know what type of screen you're using? Slcd or amoled ? Each method has a different way of unrooting. Just in a Google search engine type in who to unroot Droid incredible, and then the what screen it is. You can potentially brick your phone if you use the amoled method on a slcd one.

With the amolcd screen it's as simple as finding the right file, hence doing the search engine. When you get the file, all you have to do is just place it in the root of your phone, and turn off your phone and press and hold the power button and the volume button at the same time.

With slcd you have to do it different way. Assuming you haven't messed with the radio, if you did, you have to flash a 07.28 radio. But assuming you didn't touch that, you have to flash something that puts s-on. Ans then after that you have to put a file into the root of your SD card and then flash appropriately.

Now I did this multiple times, rooting and unrooting, and for some reason there's always so

Something drawing me back into rooting and flashing a new rom. There's no greater satisfaction than knowing you can do anything with your phone. But it's entirely your choice.

Oh yeah, to figure out what screen you have go to settings then about phone then hardware information and 002 is amoled and 003 is slcd. Google is your best friend after you figure out what screen you have. Good luck!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazysleepyboi:
You haven't officially bricked it until you can't power it on at all. Try taking out the battery and then holding the power button and volume down. If you can access the white boot screen where it gives you a choice of accessing recovery there is still plenty of hope. Don't freak out you haven't bricked your phone
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anticimex:
I can't load anything. The farthest I can go is to ClockWord Recovery, and when I try to reboot the phone, it's stuck on HTC Incredible. That being said, I can't check what screen type I have. However, before it was bricked, I did flash a file to make S- on. And, when I tried degrading my firmware, nothing happened. :/
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazysleepyboi:
OK first off the name of the first that you flash should start with a "p" I don't exactly remember the exact file name. Make sure you have s-on, I'm sure you do. And then put that p something file into the root of your SD card. root as in, it isn't in any folder.

Now when you flash this, you don't do it in clockwork recovery, you do it through hboot I believe. Hboot is the white screen when you hold on the power button and volume down. It should automatically read the p something file. And it'll ask you if you want to update. Say yes and then just let it install
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anticimex:
PB31IMG, I attempted to Flash it in HBOOT, but it didn't work. Now, I can't even connect my Droid to my computer. :(

I'm screwed.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anticimex:
Sorry for the double post, but I just followed some whacked-out tutorial that told me to format everything via Clockworkmod Recovery...now when I boot my phone, it goes straight to HBOOT and won't do anything...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazysleepyboi:
OK what can you do exactly, you can get to hboot and what else. Also when did you buy your Droid incredible ? We might be able to figure out which screen you have based on that. Oh yeah and where did you buy it from? Also, even if you can't mount it you can still easily take out your SD card to flash files that way. Don't lose hope, we can still get back to stock
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anticimex:
I bought it near the beginning of October, I believe it was the 9th? And, I bought it at Verizon.

Aside from being able to get to HBOOT, I can get to Clockworkmod Recovery...but that's about it.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Testingchip:
Can't remember exactly how to tell but know you can tell by the model #under the battery on the phone.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaysckap:
If you could get to clockwork u should be able to flash a rom if your sd wont mount use a card reader and plug directly into your comp

HTC Incredible 2.3.1
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazysleepyboi:
my brother bought his dinc before you and he got a SLCD screen, chances are that's what you have.

here's the page i used to unroot my brother's SLCD screen,

http://dougpiston.com/?p=7

follow it exactly, and just like jaysckap said, you can always take out your microsd card and put it into a usb reader
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anticimex:
That's the exact tutorial that I followed, but it didn't work.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazysleepyboi:
ok can you tell me how you flashed the included file? did you put it into the root of the SD card?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaysckap:
For now i would get a rom on your sd so your phone will boot up and do a nand backup so you at least have a working phone when i get home ill try and help you out

HTC Incredible 2.3.1
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jackbtha1:
Ok if you have a card reader for you SD card load it in and open you card on your PC. You need to make sure that the sd card is in FAT32 format otherwise when you try to load the PB31IMG file it wont read it. To check this go to my computer, find the removable drive for the SD card right click and go to properties, you should see what format its in. If it's FAT format copy everything from your sdcard to a folder on your PC, go back and right click on the removable drive and format the card to FAT32. Then of course copy everything back to your card. Then try the PB31IMG file again in hboot.

I would personally just go in recovery and wipe to factory, then choose the option to install zip from card and install the rom or which ever rom you want so the phone loads again. Good luck!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anticimex:
For now, I'm going to flash a new rom and hopefully I can fully boot my Droid again. Afterwards, I'll try to flash that file again. BUT, the first time I did it, I put it in the root of my SD card and booted HBOOT and nothing happened.

EDIT: This ROM is going to take close to 30 minute to download O.o, so I guess I'll be back in 30 minutes; don't leave me please. :(
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazysleepyboi:
do you have a sd card reader? if you do, pop out your sd card and make sure it's format is FAT32, nothing will happen if it isnt FAT32
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazysleepyboi:
im almost certain your sd card isn't formatted to FAT32. Cause from what you said, it doesn't even read the file, which means that the formatting of the microsd is wrong. All you have to do is format the sd card to FAT32 and you'll be well on your way to stock.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anticimex:
Yea, I do (thank goodness) and it is formatted to FAT32.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaysckap:
If its not the rite img file it wont work just sayin

HTC Incredible 2.3.1
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaysckap:
Was the PB31ing file .zip.zip it should only be.zip

HTC Incredible 2.3.1
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anticimex:
lazysleepyboi, would it be worth the hassle to unroot my phone just to create a nandroid backup and then re-root it? Or should I just keep it rooted?

And, I'm pretty sure it was only .zip once.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaysckap:
PB31IMG

HTC Incredible 2.3.1
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazysleepyboi:
how big is the file size of the PB31IMG file? the one i have (that i know for a fact works) is 176,626 KB.

and just to make sure, this is the file name when you first download the file

build-3.26.605.1-release-152016-baseband-2.15.00.07.28-hboot-0.92.0000_PB31IMG.zip

rename it to PB31IMG.zip

the .zip is there because i like seeing file extensions, if you set your computer to hide extension files, then ignore the .zip part
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anticimex:
Alright, will do. I'm downloading the PB31IMG that you linked me to as we speak as well as a different ROM to flash. Thanks for all the help man, I really appreciate it.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazysleepyboi:
no problem, i do what i can to help out. Hopefully everything works out for you
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anticimex:
Just a quick question. To flash a new ROM, add it to the Root of my SD card and go into Recovery mode, chose to flash from SD card, and chose the .zip? AFTER I clear all the info though, correct?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazysleepyboi:
yes, to flash a new rom add it to the root then go to recovery mode, then chose to flash from sd card, and then choose the .zip. Some roms work without the wiping, and some others require it for everything to work perfectly. Try flashing it without wiping everything and see what happens. What rom are you going to be flashing?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaysckap:
Yes clear cache, delvik witch is under advancrd and install zip, and keep it rooted its way more fun

HTC Incredible 2.3.1
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anticimex:
I plan on keeping it rooted, but I'm not sure if I should unroot it just so I can create a nandroid backup and then re-rooting it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=799679&highlight=droid+incredible+rom
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaysckap:
Lazy is wright some roms you could get away without wiping but you really should wipe delvik

HTC Incredible 2.3.1
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaysckap:
I would just put that PB31IMG file someware safe on your computer as a backup plan

HTC Incredible 2.3.1
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazysleepyboi:
it's recommended to flash everything if something in the rom isn't working. Just note, that if you get random reboots with the ROM, or a screen of death (you'll know what i mean when it happens), then it's not technically the ROM's fault, but the kernel's fault. And in cases like that, all you have to do is flash a new kernel.

For my brother, he wasnt getting very good battery life on whatever ROM i put on, so he just went back to stock and he's loving his battery life. You can make that call later to go back to stock or not, i suggest jumping from rom to rom until you find something that you really like.