yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] billslost:
Is that true about legal issues?

Seems like there were tons and tons of 6.5 ROM's for phones that were designed to run 5.0 and 6.x. Sure, they are the same family (Windows Mobile) but each new version requires it's own license (just like you can't update your XP to W7 for free).

XDA made it's mark by posting and distributing ROM's that were not sanctioned by MS.

This may be different now that MS has gone with a more controlled environment. However, I wouldn't automatically assume that XDA is going to get shut down over this.

Finally, I for one would love to have WP7 as an option on my Evo. Choice is ALWAYS good. Many people were exposed to Android at first through the good work of people who ported it over to WinMo. Now the opposite could happen as dedicated Android fans get a taste of the many amazing things that WP7 has to offer.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nickmus:
My other post just showed back up :confused: Go figure
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ninja25:
would be awesome to get a rom with wp7

+1
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mudkip:
just because you hate windows phone 7 does not mean you should tell others what to do or how they should feel
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
It is not allowed on XDA because it is in direct violation of Windows Phone 7 licenses and it is akin to distributing copies of Windows 7 for free. Microsoft views the two as the same and though it hasn't happened yet, if it started to happen I'm sure they would come down on any online website distributing said software. It is illegal.

On a related note, if so many people want WP7 phones, why not buy them? Personally, I despise the layout, the software, the whole ideology of WP7 but if someone wants to use it so much they should go buy it. I don't want to see a forum I enjoy using very much to get into legal trouble because people want to get closed-source software for free (FYI that is piracy in its definition).

In this case it comes down to legality. Porting it would be piracy and piracy is illegal. If you want to do it in your own time and at your own risk go ahead but do not think you or anyone should/will receive public support from these forums.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssconceptz:
I would also like to see this!!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nickmus:
I don't like the specs on the new Sprint WM7 phone as much as I do the EVO. What I appreciate about WM is the simplicity of customization. I can change the looks from every thing from an Iphone to an Android. If I need to tweak the reg I can do it very quickly.

I am not saying WM is better, thats a matter of opinion. And I would rather not go there. Simply put. I know more about WM than any other OS.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssconceptz:
for anyone who wants to port it, I would support it, whether it is on xda or not. speak for yourself lol
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mudkip:
that i will agree with
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] power3dfx:
actually i believe it was a waste of time for these reasons:

1. they ported android for touchpro and tp2 but they were never perfect, not to mention it took longer than most people kept the phone. more importantly, it was sdcard only and you had to boot windows first.

2. the lack of a full working setup of android meant speed issues, gpu issues, etc..

3. i mentioned the license thing because MS may at some point force xda and other sites to close and remove threads distributing wp7 on phones not originally licensed for it. my point is windows phone htc pays money to MS, android evo htc pay nothing. anyways if MS ever did complain, all the dev would be wasted and banned from distribution.

4. i know devs do this for fun, but keep in mind in 2 years most users will begin switching phones (including devs) and it will probably take a year at minimum to get a semi-working port.

5. ive tried the hacintosh thing and it makes sense for the pc world because hackintosh can be run on pcs up to 4-5 years old, still though apple frowns upon it and makes it hard to find copies on the net in regards to the licensing issues. plus hardware of PC is easier to build drivers for since there is much more open developer support for pc components while there's virtually no help for devs of phones.

Its definitely a cool idea having multiple-os on phones but the reality is different. And i support anything a dev does as long he/she gets personal satisfaction out of it at the very least.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mudkip:
what is cm7 for the evo or any rom that is not sense for that matter.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BrianDigital:
if could work but it is not an open source platform porting it over might get some dev into legal issues
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
Exactly what I've been saying. People need to stop posting these threads here and then getting their feelings hurt when people say no. You are requesting that a developer commit piracy and that violates forum policy.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Veritas06:
Because all the Sense ROMs are built on top of CM7 (well, obviously built on vanilla AOSP, but still). Looking at CM7 & Sense it's a step backwards, pretty much removing all the carrier bloatware to get the stock OS.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gearjunkeez:
How about a widget that simulates the tiles? That interface is whatvis cool at first in wm7. I'm sure a nice 4x4 widget to pull all that data is very possible...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
There is indeed a launcher in the market called, I believe, Windroid Phone 7. Also there are a myriad of threads about using ADW and Launcher pro to simulate the tiles with resized widget/icons. Either way isn't perfect but if you're looking for a legal way to emulate WP7 on your Android device those are you best options.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Philosuffer:
Here's a good thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=781455

Note: First post is just an example, in the following posts people have come up with tons of various layouts, including some that very closely resemble WP7.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EVOlvedAndroid:
This might be the closest android will see windows 7. This guy developed apps to simulate the look of windows phone 7 while still being on android.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=818607
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Armenian6000:
hahah That would be sad if someone did Windows mobiles Extremely Glitchy
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cuttingedge79:
I seriously doubt that you will ever see a Windows ROM for an Android phone. Windows software is proprietary. XDA would come under attack by Microsoft if someone were to reverse engineer their mobile platform for anything other than the specific devices it is released with. Sorry, if someone does wind up making a WP7 ROM for the EVO, i am pretty sure it would come under heavy fire from not only XDA Admins, but Microsoft as well.
[EVO 4G General] hgelpke:
My Evo battery is draining at a rate that is all together too fast. I took it off the charger about 3.5 hours ago and it has drained about 30-40%. I have not made a call nor used the net at all save for the receipt of 3-4 emails. I had a rooted phone but I reset the phone back to complete unrooted stock. I have not even so much as installed an app. What can I do about this?
[EVO 4G General] bcarter2000:
turn off your mobile data when not in use. This will save tremendous amounts of battery.
[EVO 4G General] omegasun18:
if you search the forums you should find countless threads on battery and how to find out what is draining your battery and to extend life.

not sure why you would unroot unless you were exchanging it at sprint store but it greatly limits what you can do to help prevent battery drain. If you dont want to mess with much jsut use a rooted stock rom and it is pretty much the same thing as being unrooted but you keep the extra rooted benefits.

your best bet on non rooted device make sure mobile data, 4g, auto orientation, bluetooth etc are turned off. do the HTC battery condition/charge trick. and turn off background sync.

my suggestion is to re root and look into undervolted kernels and many other battery saving tricks found using search!

hopefully it helps some.
[EVO 4G General] DonutGrunt:
I had the same problem OP.

Turns out my radios weren't update.

Head over to the developer section and download the newest radios and stuff.
[EVO 4G General] greengiantcr:
I've seen significant improvement of my battery life by using

Collin_ph Battery Tweak 1

that was offered by Myn's when I flashed his/her's rom. I had my BF take his Evo to work after he come home complaining that the charge would only last about an hour or two and behold, he got through the whole day without having to charge his battery. This is after listening to music at work for 8 hours also. I HIGHLY recommend this tweak for ROOTED PHONES as I and everyone else I've recommended loves their Evo now and have no complaints...I'm at work right now and I'm at 79% and when I usually get home the battery is either still green (full) or orange (med) charge. I'm not sure if this tweak can be used with other mods but I'm very happy with this tweak as it has made my phone perfect now~~
[EVO 4G General] chillenandy321:
Could be a Rogue app running killing your battery or radios not updated like stated above.
[EVO 4G General] htc-ppc:
I recently started having the same issue. Advice such as turning of data and the GPS aren't helpful since the device functioned fine with GPS and data on before. Also if the battery was draining at a slower rate on the current radio before, you shouldn't need to update it, should you?

Seems that either something is making the Evo use more juice than it was before or that the battery is not holding the same capacity it used to. For some reason Phone Idle and Cell Standby have been using quite a bit more juice than they used to.

I don't like some of the software mentioned to try and locate anything that could be using more juice since those programs seem to use quite a bit themselves. Either way, what could be doing it that would come up as Phone Idle or Cell Standby in the included battery monitor? Wouldn't anything else come up under Android System?

The battery draining that quickly is not normal even with background sync, GPS (idle), 4g, data, or anything else on. There is another issue which must be solved. To troubleshoot so far I've tried another battery (same thing happens) and now I'm trying with everything turned off. If I can isolate what was causing my sudden rapid battery drain, I'll update everyone. This just started a couple nights ago for me. I think I'm on the latest radio, but I'll check.
[EVO 4G General] cruecu:
Last post sums up my problem perfectly. I have an extended battery that lasts half the time it has over the last 4 months. Started with the radio updates. running myk
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
Use the battery usage functions of 'spareparts' to determine what's consuming cpu or preventing the phone from sleeping.

Can't fix the problem until you've isolated what's at fault.

Turning off mobile data will indeed fix a problem of some app trying to access the network, but it won't solve the actual cause.
[EVO 4G General] Hemidroids:
I think juice defender does this automatically when the screen is off.
[EVO 4G General] cruecu:
In the case of my phone, and I believe the OP's, we don't have any rogue apps or things running in the background. I know this phone like the back of my hand. I have completely uninstalled unnecessary apps like facebook, twitter, all things like news and weather are on manual update, i don't keep 4g or gps on, and I use wifi at home. I turn off 3g in terrible reception areas. I'm not a new user who doesn't understand the basic ways to save a little battery. I'm pretty sure the OP isn't either by his post. I use my phone the same every day. My chinese extended battery would last me easily from morning to bedtime with 20 to 30 percent to spare. Now I can't get near that after the radio updates. Since it's been well known that something is weird with these current updates, I've downgraded to 1.77 to see if that helps. My phone was sleeping fine though, so I don't know how much it will help. Always some BS with this phone.
[EVO 4G General] Bielinsk:
Log out of gtalk and latitude. Those two seem to kill battery.
[EVO 4G General] cruecu:
I appreciate it. I really do. But that is exactly the things I'm saying are already off. GTalk is turned off immediately on my phone from the jump and latitude has never been opened. It's got to be radios. I guess I'm not really asking a question, I'm just telling the OP he isn't alone.
[EVO 4G General] thedudejdog:
this is the thread with flashable .zips of alllll the radio updates ever out for the EVO.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=715485&highlight=radio

if you are having trouble after a radio update, just try some of these other radios and see if that helps
[EVO 4G General] HondaCop:
Your best bet would be to root your phone again and give one of the SBC kernels a shot. I'm running CM 6.1.2 along with Zendroid 1.1.0 BFS AVS SBC and I can easily get 16+ hours with HEAVY use. And when I say heavy use, I mean hundreds of sms, dozens of calls and lots of websurfing. You will love the SBC kernels. Give it a try.

PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
We can offer suggestions until we're blue in the face.

First off, the OP needs to provide specifics of what's installed on the device, including rom, kernel, radio, etc, not to mention the hardware version itself.

Assuming it's not the known pri /rom conflict, then determination needs to be made as to what's actually consuming cpu - see first sentence above.

Need to use a systematic approach to troubleshoot this, otherwise it's a waste of time.
[EVO 4G General] nabbed:
That sounds like a very weak cellular signal is forcing the radio to keep searching for it, draining the battery very quickly.

One way to somewhat alleviate this problem is to force roaming, to connect to a provider with a better signal.

"Roam Control" app does this (Market).
[EVO 4G General] d3x502:
Dude....This is the best post in this thread...

Sometimes I wonder how far android users went in school....is scientific method lost these days? By no means am I qualified to help here..so my flamesuit is on for the post but damn.."my ****z broke...halp" won't cut it in a developer forum...

"it works on my machine"....words to die by.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
What's that??????
[EVO 4G General] nabbed:
Actually,

some android users looked at the posting date, saw that the op hasn't updated in over 24 hours, wanted to complain about it, decided against it, posted quickly the most useful idea they had.

All that while doing real science.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ralphsancho:
Hi, this is a funny situation I'm in because 99% of the time I find solutions to my own problems searching this thread but I'm in a unusual situation and I'm looking for suggestions.

I was running MDJ cynogenmod 7 v.2.2 under CWM and MAGDLR 1.11 with no problem, however because some apps did not work in gingerbread I decided to go back to froyo, which I tried MDJ revolution also on MAGDLR under CWM, and got stuck on a bootloop. I blamed my partitioned (Fat/EXT4) SD card and formatted it (FAT)only and re-flashed REVOLUTION via CWM, still got bootloop so i went over CWM, and flashed it via USB Flasher to be stuck in bootloop again, just before i started crying about my dead HD2 I figured to flash windows 6.5 again and thankfully it worked. But after 5 minutes of using windows I needed android so I downloaded a SD version and tried to run it via Heret, and this is where the situation comes because I already tried many versions of android SD and none bootup. Yea it sounds like my SD but I have already formatted, any suggestions would be appreciated.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] despy1989:
this might sound a bit daft but have you checked the radio version after flashing the winmo rom?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ralphsancho:
yes i have the same radio i always had 2.10.50.26
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] LiFE1688:
Just wondering, did you have the correct partition size for system?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheATHEiST:
Use "SD Card Formatter" and set it to FULL and ERASE ON.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ralphsancho:
thank you!

thanks for your quick help

after running windows for one day I decided to give MAGDLR another try and just like that it worked perfectly and flashed a very old MDJ Revolution build. it seems that after I formatted SD to FAT only I stupidly tried to flash a APP2SD nand build, which [i think] caused the problem [idk if this was it but my guess is that ap2sd builds only work if you have a [FAT]/[EXT] formatted SD Card (i thought it was kind of optional)]

as for running android via SD, no luck via windows, no luck via MAGDLR, but I have it via nand so I am very very happy :D

Thread closed
[LG Optimus 2x] Piter1225:
I hope that XDA will add a separate section for this awesome device soon, there are many people interested in it.
[LG Optimus 2x] Dexter_nlb:
And i hope to get a system dump soon :-)
[LG Optimus 2x] svetius:
Coming soon.
[LG Optimus 2x] DJ Palmis:
Yes, Please.. I'm looking forward for an LG Optimus 2x Forum ("Optimus Dual" on Italian market).

I'll buy it!

But there is something strange with expansys: they changed release date from 21st Feb to 21st March.. But now they don't say release date! :(

I hope to discuss soon with other people about this GREAT PDA!
[LG Optimus 2x] Piter1225:
Yes, that's strange, shame that we need to wait one additional month more : (
[LG Optimus 2x] DJ Palmis:
Well.. Honestly I'd think twice before buy Optimus two on 21st March. In the meantime MANY other device will be on the market. And obviously there will be a lot of Android 2.3.

My fear is due the price: 550 euro (on EXPANSIVE Expansys..) is a good price.. A TOO good price.. (compared to Nexus S..) So I'm afraid they really will ship it on March.. I hope I'm wrong.
[LG Optimus 2x] Piter1225:
That's right, it will be shame if LG won't upgrade it to 2.3/2.4 until 21st March.

Maybe even HTC will show their dual-core devices until than, and it will make me think if it's still good deal to buy Optimus 2X...
[LG Optimus 2x] DJ Palmis:
That's THE point!

But (in my opinion) HTC is lost in that "4G thing".. It seems to me that HTC want to please USA market only (I don't know if 4G is in other EU country).. It's odd because USA market is full of Iphone, Blackbarry and so on..
[LG Optimus 2x] DJ Palmis:
Still no news on Italian Expansys.. :( And Expansys UK still says 21st March.. with some offers too :( I wonder if price will be cheaper after preorder.. Or maybe it's better to preorder now..

Sent using RapidRead!
[LG Optimus 2x] kingzero666:
Well as far as i know the 2X should be released sometime in february. You can also pre order it on Amazon Germany for 499€. Quite a nice price if considering other high end smartphones also cost about the same.
[LG Optimus 2x] DJ Palmis:
THANK YOU for your tip!
[LG Optimus 2x] mozzboiDK:
I denmark it still says February. I really hope that this device is not being delayed. But we'll just have to wait and see. I look forward to feel this phone in my hands. It looks awesome!

Send from my head using telepathy
[LG Optimus 2x] Piter1225:
Any source? I checked expansys Denmark, but there's no info...
[LG Optimus 2x] Dexter_nlb:
correct model is found here but has no details on when its delivered, as far as i can see..

February must be a fluke, many other websites claim march 21. is the day.
[LG Optimus 2x] kingzero666:
According to germans tech site golem.de/1101/80759.html (sorry cant post links yet :() the release is scheduled for february.
[LG Optimus 2x] mozzboiDK:
A danish website called mobilsiden.dk wrote February. Anyway i will wait for this monster :)

Send from my head using telepathy
[LG Optimus 2x] Piter1225:
Made some researches and found:

http://www.ellos.dk/DetailPages/Det...09677&SellingFlag=SearchText&SearchBackLink =

It will be available on 25.02
[LG Optimus 2x] mozzboiDK:
Can't wait :D

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[LG Optimus 2x] yyhoney:
i agree!!!

i'm Korean. and many Korean are looking forward for Optimus 2x forum.

XDA is the most famous forum in Korea as foreign forum.

and i want XDA's fast Reaction/Feedback.
[LG Optimus 2x] Dexter_nlb:
is it not already out on in the Koirean market? you guys should be able to provide us with a system dump?
[LG Optimus 2x] w1nter456:
Edit : I found this www.optimus2x.net/index.php and this is very useful,this website already 50 thread and above which make me impressive.But I do hope xda can make a Optimus 2x thread so we have a formal forum for us : ) ,just share with you guys , I'm not promoting !
[LG Optimus 2x] Dexter_nlb:
funny, but all threads has "admin" as OP ? and recents post only..

Nice, but maybe not really accurate...becides one user having a lost of Q's to share with others..
[LG Optimus 2x] Rnandan2915:
Guys

That forum optimus2x(dot)net

Is really overcoming

170 posts in just 3 days is great

What we can do is let us all gather over there

This way that forum will have lots of member

For us to share our opinion with..
[LG Optimus 2x] kingzero666:
Come on its obvious you just registered here at XDA to advertise your 2x forum.
[LG Optimus 2x] Rnandan2915:
Why will I do so

That's not my forum

I am just the member of the forum

I just love optimus 2x and thought that we need a place to discuss about it

That's all
[LG Optimus 2x] Piter1225:
Hey, I've noticed that Expansys.uk changed the release date of Optimus 2x to 18.03 :)

So three days of waiting less :p

Screenshot:

http://twitpic.com/3sdipm
[LG Optimus 2x] DJ Palmis:
Yes, I saw it.. But is.. FRIDAY (for sure)!!! LOL

So, you'll receive it in Monday (21st March...)!!

It's like the price (You know: NOT 500£ BUT 499.9999999999999999999999999£ .... -.- )

Anyway.. I have a question.. I read news about Motorola that does not allow custom rom (??!!)..

I am use to HTC (and XDA community) that lets us "change" ROMs..

So I wonder if LG lets customize roms..

Because I WIL NOT BUY anything "loked"!!!

Herein Italy We like to do whatever we want on an owned device!
[LG Optimus 2x] Piter1225:
For me it also will be important, but looking at previous LG devices (Optimus, Optimus One), I guess Optimus 2X also won't have any bootloader locks.

I hope that community will be big, and XDA will be a place for devs to sher their works.
[LG Optimus 2x] STHNS:
Can't wait for it to come out... Now ill have to spend another $500-600 for LG Optimus 2X and just got MT4G 2weeks ago full price along with many things total around 700. When I heard about this magical device I had to look in to it lol as I had HD2 months before it came out and was much needed upgrade. Have a thing for revolutionary device :P I tend to know them.
[LG Optimus 2x] DJ Palmis:
Well, As We can see there is still no section on LG Optimus 2x...

Anyway, I have a bad news: Look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4ooYGB6MpI (i don't know if we can share videos on this forum, sorry in case not)

Look at the battery indicator..

What I would like to point out is that in just 20 minuts (more or less) battery discharges about 40% (more or less).. :(

Yes: He uses a lot of applications and so on.. But He uses it for no more time than 20 minutes!!

And in EVERY review they say "We can not test battery life because it is a demo device".

In my opinion this is an hoax!

In a demo device maybe there are SOME function not activated.. So battery life would be shorter!

I bet that there are some problem on battery life. :(