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[Vibrant General] lawalty:
Sure, the original Vibrant is a great phone, but the lack of support from Samsung on releasing Android updates for the sim-locked carriers in the US is extreemly depressing. Every non-American Galaxy S series phones received the Froyo update though out the world. Even our neighbors in Canada received Froyo for their Galaxy S phones. Why not us in the good-ol-USA???

I've done my research on the Vibrant before I purchased, and I've personally received promises from Samsung customer reps telling me that the Vibrant WILL RECEIVE 2.2 SOON. This was on July 7th, 2010 when I purchased the phone. I was interested in the 'hands free bluetooth dialing' feature that is only on 2.2 and above. This was a make-or-break issue for me for purchasing the phone. In some states it is illegal to even have you phone out (in sight) while driving, let along talking on the thing.

However, the Vibrant is a GREAT phone. Will I shell out $500+ dollars again for this 'updated' Vibrant 4G? No! My Vibrant works Great with my custom 2.2 rom.

People, we will NEVER see an offical 2.2 update for any US Galaxy S series phones. Android is an open-source OS, and we have wonderful devs here at XDA that updates better roms than what (i believe) Samsung can ever do!.
[Vibrant General] KerryG:
Get used to this with any Android phone you buy for years to come. The Android market is very fragmented which on the plus side means newer and better phones come out about every three months. If you want to buy a phone and only see an upgraded version once a year, get an iPhone. If you want gadget envy every few months, stick with Android.
[Vibrant General] emonero:
I think this is great news...this will mean better support for us...any rom that this phone can run, we could run it too.
[Vibrant General] dglowen23:
These are the reasons im happy i live in spokane.. already got the FFC mod, and 2.2 and spokane will never get speeds like 21 mbps so this whole fiasco doesnt really phase me but it irritates me that samsung and tmobile would release a better vibrant not even a year later.. any word on 2.3?
[Vibrant General] mikesdot:
we all feel a little abandoned by tmo and samsung...but no use in complaining about it...i feel as much as a lot of other people that the developers for our current vibrant will always have our backs...and there will be a way around in getting all the features of this new sooped up vibrant...we'll jus have to wait and see...
[Vibrant General] dglowen23:
all i can really say is, im not givin up this phone and spending $450 on another new fone after the behold jus got 2.2.1 outta nowhere like that...
[Vibrant General] mrcrassic:
We were warned. We knew that Samsung has the tendency to do things like this, so this really shouldn't have come as a surprise to people. Two things to consider:

(a) At least they didn't upgrade the CPU or anything really big,

(b) At least we can add the FFC to our current vibrant (with banding issues, unfortunately.)
[Vibrant General] lolcopter:
i'm not too upset because

a) i will never use a FFC

b) i get anywhere from 3-6mbps right now with my vibrant, which is more than enough speed to tether. and although faster speeds would be nice, we still have the 5gb 3g data cap -- so i wouldn't really be interested in this unless it was truly unlimited like sprint's wimax

early adopters getting the shaft itt
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
I agree. It's not worth it to me.
[Vibrant General] Five0nIt:
My vibrant will do till that 4.3 inch vibrant comes out.
[Vibrant General] swehes:
I wonder what it would take to get T-Mobile to exchange my old Vibrant for a Vibrant Plus as they lied about 2.2 coming to my phone officially. I just wished I had their words recorded. When I took my phone to them because the phone wasn't working properly because of the GPS (which still is having issues even with running 2.2) they said that it would be fixed and that they didn't do returns because of the GPS.

Oh well. We'll see what happens with this one. :)
[Vibrant General] mrcrassic:
You could try speaking to their retentions department and threatening to leave for Verizon because they finally got the iPhone...This used to work several years ago, but not sure if it works as well now.
[Vibrant General] Mouahmong:
Lol. I personally wouldn't do the "insurance fraud" thing but seriously don't bag on them if they do that. I mean they pay for the insurance service and if it's okay for corporations to screw us over why is it a no-go if the customers do the same. When it comes down to it everyone is out for themselves and basically concerned about their own best interests. Some people could probably afford to drop $500 for a new phone whenever they wanted a new one, but there are some people who can't just drop $500 on a phone, but $130, that's another story. :) And for the people who say in the long term it'll raise the price of phones etc. etc. Ummm, no they are wrong. Lol. Basic economics. :) Supply and demand will always hit an equilibrium. If a corporation wants to sell an item for $x,xxx, they will only sell x,xxx of an item, first they'll have to advertise the item and convince the general masses that the item in question is a "luxury" item therefore justifying the price being super high (i.e. exotic cars like lambos). But if their goal is to sell x,xxx,xxx of an item then the price has to be low enough for the average customer to purchase. I run my own business and there will always be losses due to customer fraud, but that is so marginally low that it doesn't affect the business model. :) just my two cents. ;)
[Vibrant General] INeFFeCTiVE:
I'm on the fence... I cant decide if i even give a crap... FFC is a freaking novelty... how many of you actually use it? Or do you have it just to say you do? 4G is only available in select markets and coming soon to most... so as of now most of us gain NOTHING and are out NOTHING. Quit yer *****in!

We will probably get better drivers for the GPS and FFCmods that are out now...
[Vibrant General] swehes:
So I have another question now. As I do not have a FFC yet, but looking into it because of family, I was thinking of getting the i9000 version. However with this new phone coming out I'm pretty sure that globaldirectparts.com will pick some up. If that is the case, wouldn't this one be the better one to go? Unless Samsung totally changed that as well like they did with the Nexus S.
[Vibrant General] lolcopter:
the t-mobile rep who set up my account said i could hit the phone into the ocean with a golf club, and get a new one for $120

gotta love the insurance
[Vibrant General] parahelium:
no more Sammy for me, period. enough said. :mad:
[Vibrant General] sword9mm:
my problem is is that some newer apps aren't working on the 2.1. netflix is a big one.

i understand if it were a 3 year old phone and not fast enough but this kinda thing is crap. the phone is useless if newer apps don't work.

the fragmentation of android is a big issue and it'll push me to an iphone or wp7. having to root things just to put on broken roms doesn't bode well. i still have a year and a half so it looks like it'll just be a web browser/phone/txt msg thing till i can get rid of it.
[Vibrant General] Five0nIt:
what else do you want it to do, its a phone.
[Vibrant General] lolcopter:
what is this netflix app that you speak of
[Vibrant General] SeanFloyd:
Who cares? Every phone is only at the top for a few months untill something incrementally better arrives. I'm plenty happy with the Vibrant hardware wise and the quality custom ROM's make the phone shine.
[Vibrant General] DonutYankee:
I find it annoying that Samsung and T-Mobile are re-releasing this phone with the FFC, which they took out initially. That's what is probably most upsetting here. It's a feature the international Galaxy S has but we didn't get. As for HSPA+, why didn't they just have the original with 14.4? The technology was there and it would have been enough for even HD quality video calls. People in general are going to be upset when a company releases the exact same phone but with two big updates (and the FFC isn't even an update) just six months after the initial launch.
[Vibrant General] ford12acing:
or did we see leaked builds of froyo for the vibrant 4g?
[Vibrant General] AustinKnight45:
I won't be mad if official 2.2 came to the vibrant before this phone hits the market, you never know pigs could start flying later today.
[Vibrant General] quest4fire:
Im happy with my Vibrant, its a very capable phone. I'm going to ride out my contract. My next phone is going to be a Google branded phone like a Nexus S because I have now learned not to rely on manufacturers like Samsung, Motorola, etc to be quick with new updates like Froyo, Gingerbread, etc. I also learned not to rely on carriers like TMO, Verizon, etc to be quick with updates too because they want to take their time adding crapware/bloatware.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Why are there always like 1000 people in every thread repeating this redundant bull****?
[Vibrant General] trunkstar1:
iPhone/Apple fans probably read threads like this and laugh their asses off. The same group of people who exalt the benefits of the open source/Android world of mobile phones having meltdowns because of the nature of that very same open source/Android marketplace.

All I know is that I have a Vibrant running NeroV3, JL5, and voodoo enabled and it seriously RULES. AND I protect it with a T-Mobile black rubber case and a T-Mobile screen protector and I don't give a FFFFUUUUuuuuu....
[Vibrant General] lolcopter:
because there are always like 1000 people on this board complaining about how their new android phone is now outdated
[Vibrant General] lolcopter:
if you truly didn't give a fffuuuu you wouldn't have a case

naked, ftw

and who needs a screen protector on gorilla glass?
[Vibrant General] trunkstar1:
Oh, I see. You missed my point. I definitely give a huge ffffuuuu about my phone. That's why I put the case and screen on it before I even left the T-Mobile shop. I don't, however, give a FFFFUUUUuuuu about a Vibrant 4G, or any other phone really.
[Vibrant General] lolcopter:
lol. well played
[Vibrant General] hazard99:
Screw them release the 4g vibrant so we can get the source code and be done with it.
[Vibrant General] cashyftw:
Haha I like the kid who said I don't give a ffffffuuuuuuuuuu! Awesome.

And i agree with the guy above, once the V4g is out, will just take it's updates, and put it on the Vibrant. I was mad about it at first, but then I realized that they have the same specs, and I already have my FFC mod, so no bigge, and I don't really care about 4g.
[Vibrant General] SeanFloyd:
Cause there is perpetual whining about it? Thanks.
[Vibrant General] vapotrini:
Excuse my ignorance but isn't this what everyone was saying when the Nexus S came out? Weren't we also getting the updates for that as well?
[Vibrant General] vaughnsphotoart:
AndroidSpin is reporting that the Vibrant 2.2 OTA is being held back to prevent damaging the sales of the new Vibrant 4G.

See my post here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=910793
[Vibrant General] parahelium:
I don't believe this.
[Vibrant General] ipeench:
I know that its "confirmed" that its gorilla glass... but i have broke TWO screens... one fell from a table onto a dog bone and it cracked... and the other one got drilled with a golfball,thankfully i would much rather have it hit the phone then my leg haha... but yeah after that i lost faith in gorilla glass. i have seen videos of people shooting there screens with bb guns. i DARE you to do what with this phone!
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
6+ months is not an unreasonable time to release an updated handset. Should they lengthen their timetable so as not to upset people who suddenly feel diminished? At least in our case this new phone is not notably better (imagine how it felt to buy the iPhone 2G).
[Vibrant General] lolcopter:
i've dropped mine more times than i can remember. the silver ring is pretty beat up, but the screen is flawless
[Vibrant General] Bernardos70:
I will say this: if we had 2.2 officially from Samsung, 99% of the people complaining here.... wouldn't be complaining.

And that's where the whole problem lies. Samsung promised FroYo 2.2 over 5 months ago. There's missing a deadline, and then there's ignoring it altogether. They said the Vibrant along with all US variants of the Galaxy S would be getting FroYo officially before the phones were available. Lots of people thought "hey, it's 2.1 now, but Samsung PROMISED 2.2, they're not gonna lie, I'll go ahead and buy it." I was one of those fools.

I like the phone for what it is, but I was promised something that was never delivered when I purchased it. That absolutely made an impact on my buying decision. I would have thought twice about buying the phone if I knew that it wouldn't have FroYo by this time.

I could careless about the Vibrant 4G. The only relevant part of the Vibrant 4G story is that is incredibly similar to our Vibrant, yet, it has 2.2 already.

The good thing is that there are so many options right now for phones that as soon as the Vibrant stops being developed for altogether I'm jumping ship to something not Samsung. And I'm doing this because of this philosophy I have that I don't do business with someone who lies to my face without any regard, over and over.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
[Vibrant General] jrkart99:
Not mad, but irked by the crappy PR move

Hmmm,... there is always going to be buyers remorse when we all live in the here and now, especially in a world of rapidily expanding technology. I'm not disappointed by the vibrant i got. best phone i've had to date, even with bugs and such.

But,... thats because i took the time and learned how to come on here and mod my phone and be less noobish. i am grateful for the devs on here that have improved upon the phone where tmo and samsung have not. i've learned a ton the past few months. Nero v4 rocks btw.

That being said, the reason i did that was due to the lackluster support and response from samsung about the galaxy s1 issues. Many of us went to the mat trying to get support, and got the "we're working on it" line. I find it a little suspicious that less that a year later almost the exact same phone comes out w/ the potential to have all these kinks worked out and a few extras (enough to say its a different phone and not upgrade us gratis). That tells me that for whatever reason, Samsung found it easier to bail on the original supporters and just went the easy way out. That is a pretty ****ty PR move. (we sold you a bunk phone from stock, unless you do something that will void your warranty or could brick your phone, I guess it sucks to be you.) That move to S2 was way too quick to be coincidental, the original phone still has/had plenty of legs on it for those switching to smartphones, if they decided to fix it. In less than a 2 year time period, the galaxy s1 will be cycled out to be replaced by a slightly better and (potentially) problem resolved version. That DOES bother me. I do feel somewhat slighted, only because the "official" support for something i bought sucked, and this proves why they didn't care.

overall, My resentment is not so much for me, like i said, i'm happy cause i fixed it, tweaked it, and got something i like now. I don't care about the 4g. I feel bad for the people that can't or don't want to do this kind of modding. They are the one that get screwed and they are the vast majority. i feel better knowing that i was able to mod for friend of mind who is next to computer illiterate, and had all the stock **** and was unhappy and about to return it. he loves his vibrant now.

Not mad, just irked.
[Vibrant General] ipeench:
Am I the only one who wants to take a blurry shot of my phone showing the FFC and say its a leaked picture of the vibrant 4g. Then send it to tech sites like gizmodo and engadget..... I'm sure that they have no clue that we can mod the phone to have the FFC, haha.

lets have some fun with this instead of being angry!
[Vibrant General] cashyftw:
I definitely agree with everything you've said, I'm definitely moving on to probably HTC, they're coming out with good phones this year.

Sent from the speed demon
[Vibrant General] Louis53:
If Samsung is so worried about 2.2 on the Vibrant ruining the Vibrant 4G sales, why don't they just release the Damn update like they were supposed to and then pull the original Vibrant from T-Mobile shelves?

They make us Vibrant owners happy and keep their projected Vibrant 4G sales in tact.

Unless, however, they are expecting us to throw down $500 for features we were already supposed to have... and I don't think its worth it.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Actually HTC's phones are pretty much sucking at the moment and they're all looking like [more] clones of the HD2/Evo4G complete with the small battery, bad LCD screens, and laughable internal storage capacity.

Maybe you meant Moto and LG?
[Vibrant General] kawika:
as long as we dont lose developers on here im happy. its upsetting that i will now have to root and flash my sisters vibrant was hoping to keep it stock and let tmobile/samsung update. i sure hope they still do but im losing hope
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
This is all very unethical business practice if you ask me.
[Vibrant General] eunkipark92:
Yea go back to htc. Half of the phone come with qc issues. Have fun sending in your device rofl.

I came from nexus one g2 mytouxb 4g
[Vibrant General] presence06:
Take this for what it's worth but don't hold it against me. I had to contact T-mobile yesterday because I just wanted to know something, 6 months ago they released the Vibrant, great phone. Missing some features and other things, still running Android 2.1. So I got into a chat with a rep and ask them this:

Why after 6 months no Froyo for the current Vibrant, yet the Vibrant+ will ship with 2.2 and that it's a slap in the face to us. I ask about possibly exchange the current vibrant for the new one when it comes out. It sounded like it was possible, but of course the rep couldn't confirm it because the phone isn't released yet.

so in conclusion, check with T-mobile after this new Vibrant is released and possibly, out of some sort of miracle, we might be able to get upgraded to the new version and not be raped by Sammy and T-mobile.

If you want a copy of the chat here it is:
[Vibrant General] Mr_Tricorder:
"Buyers remorse" doesn't really describe what I feel since I've had my Vibrant for half a year now and still love it despite the poor support Samsung seems to be giving (thank you Android community and especially Eugene and TeamWhiskey for stepping up where Samsung fell flat on their face). I feel more like I'm being treated more like a statistic than an actual customer by Samsung, and I don't appreciate that at all. Never again will I fool myself into thinking that Samsung will actually give a $#!t about supporting their devices and keeping their existing customer base happy. Also, I don't blame T-Mobile at all and plan on sticking with them even though I'm not tied down with a contract.
[Vibrant General] sword9mm:
right now it's just a queue manager but requires 2.2

basically this crap is like buying a brand new dell, then when microsoft updates windows you have to go buy a newer dell.

these things are computers and they should be updated. htc doesn't have this issue.

i'm done with samsung. i can only hope they finally release 2.2 when the v4g comes out for the regular vibrant. don't care about a ffc or the faster net. i just want updates as we all should. and rooting for a baked up rom isn't what i want either. just stock please.

maybe with the 4g's 2.2 someone will release a stock one without all the hoo ha stuff the modders add. i'd root for that i suppose.
[Vibrant General] jamboy5590:
Way to go tmobile and samsung F@*k over your customers once again :)
[Optimus One, P500, V General] knzo:
Let's see how long this puppy can go without charging.

I'll keep its usage only to phone calls and messaging (which is a lot). It'll be my main phone obviously (and I can't turn it off).

Settings:

a) devoid. rom (link)

b) wifi, gps, 3g, mobile data - off

c) brightness @ minimum

d) auto-sync - off

e) underclocked & undervolted @ 480Mhz (min: 122Mhz)

f) governor set to conservative (still thinking about it)

g) hardware acceleration - off

h) watchdog lite installed (to check for apps gone berserk)

i) load monitor installed (to check for kernel loops and wakelocks)

j) airplane mode when sleeping or at classes, exams or hospital

k) red colored wallpaper (red is in the lower spectrum of visible light EM: higher wavelength, lower frequency, lower energy, lower battery consumption?)

Did I forgot anything?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] knzo:
unplugged

03h30m GMT+0, 12/01/2011

99% battery left
[Optimus One, P500, V General] lmariachi:
How about the Screen Filter???

LINK AppBrain

It's worth to use it also??

Regards Noein! ;)
[Optimus One, P500, V General] masteryx:
You really DO get bored! :p

You don't seem to have forgotten anything. I don't know if a red wallpaper really helps, since the big consumer is the backlight which you already minimized.

Good luck, I'll be checking this thread to see your record :) and I hope you are keeping track of how much talk time you get during this experiment.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] mohammedalmusimie:
What about ringtones? Are they on ?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] sugaritos:
i just did it to my phone.. but with the original stock lg rom. i set all settings to default , no wifi, no gps.... just calls and messages and a little use of mp3's about 1 hour.

the battery is 1%

and i have done 3 days and 2 hours.

1.31 hours of phone calls.

just when i need it..

i had unchecked all sychronization things, apps and i set it to gprs..

without turning off or airplane mode

the brightness was the default.

i thing it can be last longer..
[Optimus One, P500, V General] knzo:
Hmm, well the brightness is already so low :x

Anyway, I have to restart the test.

Underclock and undervolt seems to consume more battery...

I'll unplug @ midnight of 13/01/2011, GMT+0.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] ivan1real:
Keep us posted.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] RevengeFNF:
I've made a Test with Javali, using the LG P500 just for Calls and SMS, and after 48 Hours i still got 60% of Battery.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] knzo:
14 hours ~ 94% battery, without underclock/undervolt or using airplane mode.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] charris:
i had cpu tuner and it respond so freaking slow...i wanted to save battery but instead ive managed to drain it more faster....
[Optimus One, P500, V General] cimdrap:
:eek: (the rest is for the 10 caracters imperative)
[Optimus One, P500, V General] masteryx:
@Noejn: is the test still going on?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] anirudhnyg:
this is very interesting !!! all the best Optimus !!
[Optimus One, P500, V General] knzo:
Check my signature

it lasted me 4 days and I had 35% left. I had to do some testing then and had to connect to pc.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] robsbeat1:
Intresting results, not bad for a smarphone! How would you rate your device responsivness do, was it realy sluggish since you undercloaked it?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] knzo:
I didn't underclock it.

I did at first but consumption was higher so I put it back to 600Mhz and restarted the test.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] masteryx:
So, by extrapolation, we can assume around 6 days of battery life. Still, without knowing the talktime this is inconclusive.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] robsbeat1:
@Noejn

What about undervolting keeping the same Mhz, is that possible?

@

I never tryed draining compleatly my battery because i keep on pluggin it in my computer to test stuff, but I would be happy if my phone could last aprox. 4days.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] lekhwani:
@noejn

I read in this forum that you don't have a lgp500. Then how come you are testing its battery and other things.

Sent from Tapatalk
[Optimus One, P500, V General] lekhwani:
This is what you said in the baking the ginger bread for optimus one thread:
[Optimus One, P500, V General] knzo:
8 days ago when I started the test I had.