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[Vibrant General] Mr. Apocalypse:
Really? Um........ok

Sent from my XDA app cuz I'm stalking your mom....
[Vibrant General] cacla8383:
my head exploded 1/8 of the way trying to read that.
[Vibrant General] hoey2011:
I figured this was only a matter of time. But hey, if it is enough of a kick in the butt to Sam and T-Mo, I'm in. My Vibrant is only awesome because of XDA and my own necessity of having the phone I paid for. The GPS on this phone when I got it was an utter joke. My G1 looked like a golden brick next to my Vibrant. Sure it was ugly compared to my Vibrant, but at least the hardware did what it was supposed to. I had terrible data reception and speeds, which were purely T-Mobile's fault, for releasing a handset that couldn't play nice with their Dallas-Ft. Worth infrastructure yet. It seems like everything I have accomplished on this phone has been an uphill battle, mainly because of the lack of cooperation on Samsung's part with 3rd party developers. And all the while, they were telling everyone who had purchased this hardware-capable phone that the comparable software was "on its way" all the time, yet the only updates seen had to be downloaded from their sam-firmwares site, which an average user will NEVER see. I had more hardware frustrations with my G1 than with my Vibrant, because I knew that it was going to fall behind eventually, which is why I upgraded to a 1ghz phone. But any changes I wanted to make to my G1 was simply butter because of HTC's cooperation with their source code.

Oh well, sometimes this is just the way life goes. Companies just plow on forward leaving one angry crowd for a new, naive crowd to repeat the process.

My email if you want to contact me regarding the C.A.: hoey2011@gmail.com
[Vibrant General] MTC44:
Just stop. You have no legal claim, your attorney is just taking easy money.

sent from my galaxy s
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
Ha, is your sig a reference to =3? If so, AWESOME.

OP- Good luck man, hope you got money to wipe your ass with, cause that's essentially what you're doing.
[Vibrant General] Lethal_NFS:
You will lose this lawsuit. Samsung does not have to release 2.2 ever if they do not want to. Nothing you have said will hold up in court. You bought a phone. It makes and receives calls.
[Vibrant General] fumanstan:
I notice this in your posts on the T-Mobile forums too, but why do you hit enter after every 5 words or so?

Paragraphs are your friends.
[Vibrant General] raziel26:
Kinda reminds of the kid who sued nintendo because of their updates removed the homebrew channel and the kid whinned about ruining his right to have fun hahahaha grow up you obviously no about xda developers therefore you know you can root your phone and flash a custom rom to your phone with 2.2 and the gps fix instead of using the money to retain a LAWYER go get a new phone
[Vibrant General] zoid_99:
Slashdot has picked up the story...

Slashdot has picked up the "Samsung hold back Froyo" story. This may get mainstream.

http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/01/13/2334213/Is-Samsung-Blocking-Updates-To-Froyo
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
he isn't trying to get a new phone...

he's trying to tell samsung that the update is WAY over-due, and we're being screwed over, hes just telling them in a more professional way rather than us spamming them on twitter and facebook, which even though i've done it, is pointless.
[Vibrant General] Dan_Brutal:
Good luck.
[Vibrant General] kboater:
dang, a little support guys. i dont think he will win a class action law suite, but it may just shed some light on the situation...

mad props to the OP
[Vibrant General] chronos7:
I say more power to you and I hope this turns into a class action lawsuit so we all can some type of discount on our next samsung phone if we buy one again. If it wasn't for devs I would be having a fit.
[Vibrant General] mr2t32:
i'll settle for been able to trade in for the new vibrant 4g for free.
[Vibrant General] Mr. Apocalypse:
I'll amen to that

Sent from my XDA app cuz I'm stalking your mom....
[Vibrant General] dzuchowski:
I think rhat tmobile will kick you off their service and charge you an early termination fee to boot. And rumor is sprint may merge with tmobile this year or next so I would not go to sprint. I would goto cricket wireless.
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
cricket wireless... are you _______ kidding me
[Vibrant General] cchant:
I thought Sprint was cdma and T mobile was GSM. Wouldn't make sense to merge I would think.
[Vibrant General] Ms_Vibrant:
i dont think you have a case coz you didnt sign on anything that says samsung will send an update on a particular date or timeframe.. no documentation whatsoever..
[Vibrant General] Darksurf:
Good luck dude. I'm rooting for you. Sammy has made promises and has acted like moto with the cliq.they've done nothing because they can make profit from lies and cheats.
[Vibrant General] west-siiiyyde:
All this negative press attention is great news for Apple/RIM/MS, purely at Google's expense. If Google doesn't wrestle back Android updates from carriers and manufacturers, my next phone is going to run something else. I will not trust an Android handset manufacturer to update my phone again-- rather go with Apple than put up with this sort of cheezy marketing ploy.
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
actually he does, tmobile has several times put that vibrant comes with 2.2 on their sales website, which is known as false advertisement, which they took down a few days after the news got on engadget and other popular blog/news websites.

Samsung CANNOT just leave the old vibrant and make all the other million seem as BETA testers for their vibrant+.
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
why are you just rooting for him, why not be proactive and click the link the Op has provided and fill out your info and let the attorneys hear your part of the story.

the first few steps of a class action are to try and get as many people and hear their stories before they actually file the thing and do a mass notification.
[Vibrant General] raziel26:
Its a suggestion and you know what yea I felt the same way too but you know I decided to to root and flash a custom rom to get what I wanted and he really does not have a leg to stand on its not like he signed a form stating yes there will be updates. Samsung doesn't even have to update it if they don't want to

Sent by Pigeon Carrier.
[Vibrant General] dligon:
I just called the CEO of samsung in korea and he told me ching chun chungee king kong tin twan. Which I figure translates into 2.3 will be released in an hour.
[Vibrant General] suprakarma:
Even a free phone from tmob comes with froyo even cricket phones got froyo I mean part of it is our fault for chosing this device which is an alivy that we can root and flash and abuse it with thousands of times till brick it, is this really necessary? I think a lawyer is more expensive than a better phone...........
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
Lol haha

........
[Vibrant General] SpacelySprokets:
Serious good luck, he may not win but bad press isn't good for the nation #4 carrier.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Samsung said froyo was coming this year before these phones launched. Its on video tape, YouTube, twitter, Facebook, multiple blogs, came from T-Mobile.

He has a case, but its not bulletproof because law relies heavily on semantics.

In any case Samsung gave themselves over 6 months to get the update ready. The fact that it isn't shows they don't want it to be. Also, something like this needs to happen to educate the average consumer and set a standard for people to look towards. If a company doesn't like/want to update their devices then they need to let us know so that we can make informed decisions...
[Vibrant General] tomasitoc:
I'll join, I will pm you
[Vibrant General] daedalus1066:
If memory serves me correctly at the release of the phone the CEO on video stated that Froyo was coming, TMO and Samsung Reps have stated it on Twitter and they have released it to every other Galaxy S phone released outside the US.

I am not sure if he will win or if he can even get enough people to sign on without out widening the lawsuit to cover the Big 4 to make it past the class action lawsuit. But between the Behold II and now the Galaxy S debacle I think that is he can even get the class action filed will be a major black eye for Samsung.

I have yet to decide if I am going to sign on or not and will prob contact the attorneys directly before i do so. But I personally hope this does succeed in making Samsung take action for their lack of Follow through on the Promised updates as well as the Faulty Hardware.
[Vibrant General] ronin4740:
This is imho the better option:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=911154

My thinking is that if there's enough public outcry against Samsung for possibly holding back the 2.2 update for the Vibrant until after the Vibrant plus is out via Twitter and Facebook then they might change their minds... If it doesn't oh well... We paid our $$$ and took our chances... The Vibrant is still a pretty awesome phone and the Dev's here have managed to do some really cool things with the leaked versions of firmware they've gotten their hands on...

If a class action lawsuit goes forward it only, in my mind, serves to make lawyers money and makes Samsung tighten down on the leaks and hold 2.2 until there's a ruling on the case. I'd much rather see us try to change Samsung's opinion via public pressure than through legal means...

...but that's me.

If you think like me then tweek per the directions in the link above... if You'd like to be a part of taking Samsung to court then follow the OP's instructions...
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Your opinion is trash. Suing (whether you win or not) is almost universally better than some Twitter crusade..

And Yes, I did contribute to said Twitter crusade.

This forum is a minority of people who buy cell phones, but it's quite evident that there are way too many people who are dumb enough to just "buy another phone" instead of holding the entities responsible accountable to their word.
[Vibrant General] Ms_Vibrant:
i dont know.. but of course the lawyer will find a way to hold a case against samsung and tmo..that's what lawyers do no matter how weak the case is and it's money for them..

like you said the 2.2 was taken off the site abruptly (it was a printing mistake) and if the plaintiff got the phone when the false advertisement was up on the website , then he may win.. but if he got the phone when the said false 2.2 advertisement was not up on the site, then im not sure.. lol

but hey im not in the law field.. LOL

but good luck to him ... a lawsuit will make a difference anyway in terms of making samsung become more wary of making promises...
[Vibrant General] Ms_Vibrant:
and this is coming from someone who likes to make trashy comments about the vibrant on a vibrant forum..

:eek:

LOL hahahaha
[Vibrant General] raziel26:
+1

Sent by Pigeon Carrier.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Should I make them in the HD2 forum? Dissenting opinions are completely on topic in this forum. Are you in the third grade?

But his opinion was still trash. If you sue a company they have to pay regardless if they win or not. Their attorneys don't work for free.

If you try to crusade on twitter they can just ignore you, and you accomplish much less, if anything...
[Vibrant General] daryllh:
I'd be impressed if the OP typed all that from his phone.
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
Don't worry man, I'm agreeing with EVERY word you say, but I'm sure your pissing off people by saying their opinions are trash.

sue is WAY more effective than spamming them on twitter.
[Vibrant General] hazard99:
total support for the cause!
[Vibrant General] RoZm X:
+1

Same here man!

But maybe if the phones are the same we can MOD the original vibrants to have a 4g antenna and fully working FFC!
[Vibrant General] rsfaze:
tell me where to sign up
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
Where to send info

All I would need you to do is give me ALL the info you have

About the problems you’ve had with your device,

gps issues anything you can find

including your personal experiences

especially whether or not having this device caused you any emotional distress in any way

any document which states they that LIED with the INTENT to sell more devices

even a picture of your device

just for your own safety and to protect your identity

make sure they do not include personal info such as numbers etc.

My E Mail is SinistaBeatz@Gmail.com

I am preparing a document containing all evidence

which I will then send to this lawyer

so that we have a solid case

The lawyers name is Ben Richman brichman@edelson.com

you can go here ... http://edelson.com

fill out a claim form on Behalf of myself Michael Aravaan Khora

since I originally brought this case to attention

Thus making it much more convenient

I am doing this on Behalf of the people

Thank you for supporting me VERY Much

God Bless

Michael Aravaan Khora
[Vibrant General] joe.kerwin:
Devices become outdated. We signed nothing that guaranteed 2.2. Be thankful you can mod yourself. AOSP 2.3 is booted on the vibrant as of tonight via TW devs twitter. We'll be running it long before you see any results from this lawsuit. With all the time that must've took, why didn't you just learn to flash a ROM?
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
I did flash a ROM (NERO 3 final) with SBG 2.2

are you READING the posts?

cause I said it in the developer section

I originally posted this here

but just as I thought

it is hardly gaining any traction in this section

yet is one of the most popular posts in the developer section

that is the ONLY reason I reposted it there.

the more people who see this or respond the better

and believe me...

I am far from alone here.
[Vibrant General] 7eventy5:
Samsung released 2.2 to tmobile so I don't get how any of this is on them. But in reality tmobile said they plan to release it... Just because they haven't done it within your time frame doesn't mean they won't. Even when they do I won't care because nero runs better than anything tmobile will ever release
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
Anyone who says a custom rom is BETTER than a original rom is wrong.

Yes its faster, what else do u expect.they've removed all the things that slow it down.

If official is here, all the custom roms will get better, we're running off of leaks from samsung/tmobile.

See how fast your phone is, then double that + more stable + more battery life.

NO ONE BUT SAMSUNG KNOWS HOW THIS PHONE WORKS, IF WE DO NOT GET A OFFICIAL, WE CAN'T GO ANYWHERE BESIDES THE LEAKS.
[Vibrant General] cowppl:
For me, the main issue is GPS. I bought a phone that advertised a GPS and what I got was something completely unreliable. I don't know how much of an argument you have about Froyo, since they did give the impression that they are going to realese it for the Vibrant, but they can turn around and say they are still working on it.

I am completely disapointed about the GPS. I bought the phone for $500 but with no data plan so I could not really test it out. Now a few months later, I get the data plan and find that it does not function as a reliable GPS device. I cannot return it in fear of being given a refurb unit with a GPS that doesn't work as well.

The thread here on XDA that provides a GPS fix proves that it is a hardware issue. We should be compensated for being given a defective device. I agree with the lawsuit as I feel like I have been cheated. Never again will I get Samsung
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
God dang it! Samsung acclair or something just got froyo today
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
Why would people rate this thread with low stars, i mean seriously, samsung is screwing everyone over, someone is being pro-active and is trying to get some justice for consumers, and people have the nerve to rate this thread low?

I never understood pushovers. Samsung is taking advantage of you, there is a legal system in place to remedy the situation, yet you rather fight against justice?

I just don't understand people and soceity in general. People sue eachother all day when it is not appropriate nor necessary, but when a company conducts them self unethically people suddenly shy away from a class action.

Just blows my mind, the backwards thinking.
[Vibrant General] BaoQ:
Yea, I hate all the people that say "I don't care, I already have froyo running on my Vibrant" or "if you want froyo, go flash some roms"

STFU!!!!!!! I mean yea, those roms are great but nothing is better than the real thing.

If the real thing come out, the devs could modify it to be better than anything we have right now.
[Vibrant General] kobesabi:
Where do I sign? If they willing to let me trade for Vibrant 4G for free, then I'll be quiet. :D
[Vibrant General] raziel26:
I love this thread when I need a good laugh I just look at these comments and chuckle. People getting so worked up over anothers view is always amusing especially when saying "stfu" is so common on these threads. I for one just see as a big waste of time trying to sue a company or companies because of the whole well everybody else has it why can't I? There is a lot worse things to worth about whether or not you have the latest and greatest software for your phone be happy with what you have and be paitient AND YES.if you just can't live without having froyo then mod your phone it is as simple as that.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
SinistaBeatz@GMail.com

Inbox me with everything below so I can put this on the document which I am currently writing, I have a ton of info already thanks to all the support I have received

I will be turning this in to the lawyer below

All I would need you to do is give me ALL the info you have

About the problems you’ve had with your device,

gps issues anything you can find

including your personal experiences

especially whether or not having this device caused you any emotional distress in any way

any document which states that Samsung or T-Mobile may have

LIED with the INTENT to sell more devices

Give me a detailed grievance (the more detail the better)

even a picture of your device

just for your own safety and to protect your identity

make sure they do not include personal info such as numbers etc.

The lawyers name is Ben Richman brichman@edelson.com

you can go here ... http://edelson.com

fill out a claim form on Behalf of myself Michael Aravaan Khora

since I originally brought this case to attention

Thus making it much more convenient

I am doing this on Behalf of the people

Thank you for supporting me VERY Much

God Bless

Michael Aravaan Khora
[Vibrant General] Grizzly206:
You are really this dumb aren't you? Do you have any idea, the number of people who sue companies? A global (DT) multi billion dollar corporation at that. There's an entire legal department to combat geniuses like you. And you think your lawyer who's name and number was on a bus stop poster is going to get anywhere? You're a fool with your pants on the ground.
[Vibrant General] pulser_g2:
Thread closed until some trolling can be cleared up

Continues at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=912480
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baseballfanz:
Anyone on Tmobile US able to send/receive MMS today?

Don't know what happend but can't send/receives MMS on any ROM

Tried, CM 6.1.1, CM7 by snugfits, GB ROM by MicroMods.

Not sure if it's network related or my settings which I've checked and double checked already.:(
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mlinskiy87:
I just sent a MMS....working fine on CM 6.1.0.
[Vibrant General] howetechnical:
I think at this point you've got a strong case, as Edelson McGuire has stated. I too purchased both my wife and myself a Vibrant under the false promise that 2.2 would be arriving around the corner (back in August, this was), which would allow me to do the things that I wanted to do which was not available in 1.6, and 2.1 to some extent. Let me know how I can help, if I can that is.
[Vibrant General] MTC44:
This is moronic. You have zero proof that either party intentionally harmed a consumer. Your attorney is lucky to bilk hours against your retainer.

people, it's a blog post on androidspin! Not a sworn statement. Stop getting all worked up.

sent from my galaxy s
[Vibrant General] BuLLeT_PrOOf_wAlleTz:
Yes I do find Samsung very unfair. Paying full price for a defective phone. Then getting tossed to the side, and forgotten about. They NEED to be held accountable!
[Vibrant General] iwasblown:
I too wanna sue tmo and samsung

They haven't delivered, phones too pricey, constant irritation.
[Vibrant General] Indigo779:
I'm excited by this news.
[Vibrant General] iwasblown:
I hope they are not terrorists.
[Vibrant General] ekeefe41:
Sammy was always careful in there language. They never said "The Vibrant will receive 2.2"... it was always "All the Galaxy S phones are capable of 2.2 and we are working with the phone companies to make this happen"

Nothing verbatim of course.

I was very hesitant on buying the Vibrant given my personal history with Samsung (crappy BluRay player) and the fact that they are slow at updating there phones. I knew it was a gamble buying it but i did it anyway.

I love my phone, but i am rooted and have been running 2.2 for a long time now.
[Vibrant General] hitman818:
Samsung actually said all carriers will receive froyo in september in the showcase of the galaxy s line.
[Vibrant General] JUSMEJOSE:
lol i hope not!!!
[Vibrant General] jrkart99:
I agree,... a little premature.
[Vibrant General] ^Fs:
Flash through ODIN?

How's the battery life?

Any Screenshots?

Thnx
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
If you have that promise in writing, I'm sure the OP would love a copy. If not, you have been delivered no such promise as far as the law's eye can see.

We are at the whim of Samsung, and they are not stupid. They may do the bare minimum with regard to customer support, but (atleast IMHO) they have broken no laws. The only thing wrong with this phone is a defective GPS on certain units, which has and continues to be replaced anytime the issue is brought to their attention.

The only way to hit them is to take your business elsewhere. No sense in paying hundreds or thousands of dollars to some local law firm who has no qualms about losing to a giant like Samsung as long as your retainer clears the bank. Especially not over some phone that you paid no more than $500 for, $200 in many cases.

/rant
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
wtf, omg, lol

:D
[Vibrant General] funeralthirst:
lololololol!!!
[Vibrant General] furiousrcj:
If this will fix my crappy gps I'm down! Just tel me where to sign!
[Vibrant General] samyvibrantuser:
here's the message from Sammy about the recent Vibrant 4G and Vibrant Froyo "hostage" situation...

CNET

We reached out to Samsung for comment and a company spokesperson sent CNET the following response:

Samsung Mobile does not comment on rumors or speculation. With regard to the Froyo update, we recently issued the following statement: "Samsung feels it is important to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available only after we feel that we can give the millions of U.S. Galaxy S owners a simple and reliable upgrade experience. Due to the complexity and unique functionality of each Galaxy S device, we are performing additional testing and are working to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available to all U.S. Galaxy S owners, including the Samsung Vibrant, as soon as possible.
[Vibrant General] kevinniven:
never again

I will never buy another Samsung product!
[Vibrant General] Whitehawkx:
That just makes me think every bit of the rumor is true.
[Vibrant General] Tonicacid:
Not to be an ass but why is this in the development section? I see nothing in the for of development aside from a lawsuit.