yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire General] tiotempestade:
Er..

It is too soon to have gingerbread.. of course it is!

But what about the messaging thing? Has it ever happened to you? It's kinda bothering to send something you wrote to your girlfriend and have it delivered to your boss.. Who knows he might like it or he might sue you for sexual harassment.. :)

JK, but seriously, there's little things that should be fixed.

For example showing the sms you sent as a reply before the sms that originated the reply..

The ms exchange mail thing..

I believe they will take a while to give us 2.3 and we have to understand that Sense is a very good GUI (the best I've experienced so far..) because it is well programmed and tested. So HTC is just "protecting" their image by taking three months to port the new version of Android.

But look for example the case of Sony Ericson saying 2.1 is too good already and future updates shouldn't be expected.. Sure their costumers replied back.. and now they're getting 2.2 on some models.. (We'll see..)

My point here is that by requesting fixes and updates we are showing that we are satisfied costumers and want it to continue that way. So in a month or two, if there's no 2.3 for Desire maybe we can have this thread to show dis contempt..

(And by the way.. Sense 2.0 isn't that big of an obstacle.. it's already working entirely in Desire's NAND.. just have a look at some DHD ROMs ports to Desire in the Development section.. Saying that Sense 2.0 won't fit in Desire's NAND is saying that XDA has better chefs than HTC... lol :D)
[Desire General] tiotempestade:
Sorry.. forgot to put the 5th option on the poll

"Nahh.. it's good the way it is..":o

(not saying it isn't.. :p)

:p

I meant official updates dummy!!...
[Desire General] cr1960:
I'm a results focussed kind of guy - official/unofficial who cares just as long as it works :p
[Desire General] tiotempestade:
Don't get me wrong, I'm also that focused. But if you end up with a bricked phone it kinda.. no longer works.. :D
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I was thinking that the DHD ports has sense running too.... so we just need HTC to allow us to connect to htcsense.com with a DHD port too!

I want the mail app fixed so it works with hotmail eas... surely its a small bug fix...
[Desire General] tiotempestade:
DHD ports (with Sense 2.0) work in sense.com :)

It's just not officially available.. But you can try it..

I recommend Alex-V's DHD ROM.. ;)
[Desire General] EddyOS:
This poll equates to the following:

"Hi BMW,

I bought a 3 series last year with a 2-litre engine and I now see you have a 2.5-litre engine. When can I book in my new engine?"

Bit extreme, I know, but HTC don't have to update the Desire to anything. They're a business and they release new phones with new software. We might get it, we might not
[Desire General] bubigrega:
That can be true in car business. But smart phone making is different. And when you buy car you are not only buying finished product but in most cases also 1, 2, 3, 5 year guarantee that include replace car, tow service, help on road if yours car stops obedience. Bmw also has free maintenance for first 100.000km or 5 years. Every business has its rules. And we as buyers of smartphones we set them. So, i ll buy my next phone from company that will offer me at least 2 years of updates. Thats the reason i don’t buy samsung anymore. Hope i don’t need to search for new manufacture. I like htc. But updates are important to me.
[Desire General] !PANDA:
Not just to you. HTC should provide the official updated, and although you can say that we already 'have' them, you shouldn't really have to root the phone to have them. A phone like our Desire ain't cheap, we should at least get HTC's service as well as the product. So far, we've had the product, and in most cases very good product, but the updates arn't here, which sometimes makes Nokia look better: me and other members sent them an e-mail regarding an update with kinetik scrolling etc, it happened withing a couple of weeks! Come on HTC, Nokia knows how to listen to its customers, so if you want us to stay loyal, you have to be loyal to us.

That is all. Good Bye.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
don't you need a DHD serial number?

I don't have one :(
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I'm fine with buying a new phone when the updates will no longer go on them.

I flashed my HTC Touch HD with WinMo6.5.3 to make sure it was updated when I found HTC wouldn't push out anymore updates... I'm just waiting for that point when HTC won't push any updates out, or they won't fit on anymore then I'll probably be rooting and flashing...

I purchased my Desire in about July 2010 for around £390 - that's the most I've paid for a phone and I don't intend giving it up just yet...
[Desire General] !PANDA:
However, some people can not afford to buy new phones, just make the most if what they've got, but HTC will not even do that! Okay, Froyo wasn't that bad for the unbranded devices, but why shoul our providers get the updates to brand them?! People who don;t know what branding is etc, will think that HTC is just not as good as other phones, Nokia for example- no barnding, and although there may be some on the case of the phone, no Software Branding. Therefore, updates are pushed a lot quicker!

Back to the point, people like me want to make sure that they get as much as they can for what we pay, and for that reason, I don't think that HTC is as helpful as they can be.

That is al. Good Bye.
[Desire General] RisinT96:
Desire / Nexus S

If HTC makes an update ill buy desire if not ill buy Nexus S, maybe........maybe not......ohh i LOVE the htc sense and i want a phone with the sense so i wont buy Nexus S.......Maybe desire z? but it has the keyboard problems and i dont need a keyboard.....ill buy desire (the normal one) and ill flash a cooked rom with 2.3 and the new sense, if possible...
[Desire General] godutch:
Creating an sd-ext partition is not something average users can be expected to do before upgrading to sense 2.0
[Desire General] tiotempestade:
Don't underestimate the power of the Dark side, Luke! :D

It's only a script.. if we lived in an utopia HTC would just release the next OTA with it.. :D

data2sd, app2sd+ script can create the partition and even align it.. http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3696

Maybe even with reiserFS partitions for faster access, but I think the dev's are getting to the conclusion that not all SDs work well with reiserFS.. so EXT3 :D
[Desire General] dexteral:
[i want updates [
[Desire General] tiotempestade:
lol :)

me too!
[Desire General] mayad79:
You are on the right track. Since they are a bussiness we must offer either free labor and/or monetary incentive.

At least, word the request so that their software support is what sets them apart from other manufacturers. Even though we are stating the obvious, because they do compared to Samsung, we must implore them to keep this edge and not lose sight of it. Also mention to start placing antennas that cover GSM five band wcma 3g.
[Desire General] tiotempestade:
Thanks for making it more clearer!

Also, can you explain/expose better the five band antenna plz?
[Desire General] :
We all want updates for the desire but in the meantime if you can't wait why not just root and flash with a custom Desire HD rom with the new sense, that's what I did and I don't regret it one bit it's faster, smoother, feature rich, looks tons better and is brilliant on battery life.

Although I do agree HTC should release this it's not like the Desire doesn't have the specs to run it !

I do suggest to everyone too root there Desire's it makes you feel naughty lol !!! :P
[Desire General] !PANDA:
Although I am rooted, and do agree with the fact that DHD ROM's are a lot better, but some people just don't want to risk bricking their phone, (still everytime I flash something, I am filming the whole procedure, so that people could help me to un-brick it, thats how scared I am).

Another thing, we have now, over 70 people voted on the poll. And because they have only selected one, that doesn't mean that they could do nonly one of the 3 suggestions. I have no objection of doing an online petition as well as sending an e-mail.

Anyone else up for it?
[Desire General] :
Yes I agree it is a scary process at first but only because we don't want 2 wreck our lovely phones but with unrevoked its quite simple.

Anyway back onto the topic, on t3 HTC won tech company of the year which I think they thoroughly deserve, they do frequently update there products and the desire won gadget of the year which I completely agree with.

But I also think they should update it to the new sense and also to update it to gingerbread, if we purchase a product from them its there obligation to release updates aslong as the hardware supports it. I would be willing to send them an email and if someone could start a petition all to willing to sign it.

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] tiotempestade:
Ok.. so online petition and email..

Can someone with experience write a draft of them plz?

It's just to start things up..
[Desire General] !PANDA:
I'll do the e-mail (tomorrow morning) and add it to my first post of this thread.. dont know how to do an online petition though.

Please, if you have voted on the poll, please do both, send the e-mail and the petition.

Edit- sorry to disapoint lads:had no time, now I'm off to school so might do the draft on my phone during lunch..
[Desire General] Lothaen:
out of interest - has anyone seen this:

http://blogs.computerworld.com/17649/android_upgrades

I thought it nice...
[Desire General] tiotempestade:
No prob :)

Or PM me the thing and i'll post it on first page..

Thnks :D
[Desire General] tiotempestade:
It says what we already know.. HTC upgrades their phones..

But it gives the "when and where"'s.. very nice
[Desire General] dexteral:
I suggest

in the first post of this thread

Performa email and the email address to send to and the time in GMT so we all can send an identical email. Maybe it will jog HTC's memory :D
[Desire General] titorez:
Anyway, i would be happy with another 2.2 updates with the newest Google Apps, in this case i could free some internal memory occupied by the updated versions of Gmail, GMaps, MArket, Youtube etc...

I would go with the online petition!
[Desire General] frying_fish:
I agree it would be nice to give them an incentive to keep supporting new software on the desire, but they have moved on to newer models so the likelyhood of them supporting these for much longer isn't that high.

On the flashing of custom roms, I've been lurking around a while contemplating whether or not to do this, and on the face of it it seems fun (I don't mind messing with the software, as I've debranded to have the stock rom), I'm not sure I want to risk bricking the phone, along with many other people, so updates from HTC would be nice.

I think the email is a good option, but you have to know who to target with these kinds of emails.
[Desire General] Surfy89:
I'm using custom roms, but i'd love to see HTC updates as the devs will implement them in their roms. I'm up for sending out emails.

Make sure to put the date and the time (the time zone as well) on the first page :)
[Desire General] ljesh:
Desire is a powerfull device, it's not any device. Enough of CPU, RAM and everything, and it can run Gingerbread, sense 2.0... whatever you throw at him. To stop supporting it at ~8 months since production is a bad news to me, and I will think again about getting a HTC in the future if they do that.

Edit: I would like to quote & reply to EddyOS.

It's not that we want a better device, we want the device we bought ~6 months ago to be supported much longer then 6 months.

Just as an example, Nokia still sends firmware updates for theirs E52. Device released in July 2009. Year and a half old device.

Apple still sends updates for iPhone 3GS. A device released in June 2009. Again year and a half old device.

So if HTC already stops supporting a device which released on April 2010, in that case something sucks alot and most of us will double think about getting another HTC.

The device is great, but we need (official) updates.
[Desire General] cr1960:
can anyone point me to the page in the manual where it says HTC will provide software updates for the device - or on their webpage maybe?

don't get me wrong, it's great to get updates, but to somehow imply htc has an obligation to do it is misguided. you got what you paid for when you purchased your desire. anything else is really a bonus.

email and petition as much as you like - if they intend to provide an update they will. if not, I don't think you'll change their mind.
[Desire General] warlordxxx:
Let's face it Desire is still selling - in fact still advertised on HTC's newest advert so it will work the same as it has with all their other phones they will take updates to a certain point until the hardware is unable to run the software. It's from there that XDA really steps up a notch with the ported software to carry on running the devices with updates that are ports from newer devices - case in point the DHD ports that are available right now. HTC aren't likely to do the ports for us as let's face it they can make much more money selling the proper DHD - but at the same time they also haven't in any way stopped or tried to hinder the devs here doing it.

So in short we're lot's of ways better off than other phone users - we could quite easily have no updates whatsoever so we really are quite lucky. Don't forget although HTC phones have some great design and hardware elements to them they do actually run on 3rd party software sure it's software designed for phones but why should google care if a phone HTC made 6 months ago isn't able to run their newest version?

- HTC design

- HTC sense

- HTC updates

- XDA design

- XDA port

- XDA fixes
[Desire General] yasingedik:
Update our Desires, HTC!! :)
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I saw the advert the other day for some HTC something or other and at the end said "Desire HD, part of the Desire range" - and out pops a Z and Original...

someone mentioned it here but it was the first time I saw it yesterday.
[Desire General] tiotempestade:
I don't know if it says on the manual or not but..

..that means that you are happier this way?

If HTC updates Desire's ROM to 2.3 you won't be a little bit more happy about it?

ok.. so as long as it doesn't state on the manual you are as happy as aa consumer can be..

Can the rest of us be different and be more happy if our software gets updates regularly/as needed.. ?

It doesn't influence

your next buy

even if the manual says "YOUR SOFTWARE IS 20 YEARS OLD!!!"

But it can well influence others choice when getting a new device..

:p
[General Questions and Answers] Dafish__:
i just cant get into the recovery menu. what am i doing wrong?

I just bought my x10i firmware 2.1-update1

2.0.A.0.504.

i Rooted my phone using the new superoneclick.

installed busybox succesfully

installed xrecovery succesfully.

tried 100 times pressinf the back button 3 times on the SE LOGO.

But it freezes on the logo screen or it just boots up the phone.

I even tried the method to install the 3 files into the bin file.

But after this its the same,

sorry for my english and hope you guys understand.

Please help me!
[General Questions and Answers] Ray_jai:
I have the same problem!

I would also like to know.
[General Questions and Answers] fatall:
me 3 ??, I am having the same issue too.
[General Questions and Answers] Ray_jai:
Hey, I got it to work using this method! try it out guys.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=888250

Do you guys know if i need to reinstall xrecovery everytime i flash?
[General Questions and Answers] saywei89:
totally ****er bull****.

The 1 u posted is X10 mini. I din c before i run it. Now my hp cant boot up anymore.
[General Questions and Answers] Ray_jai:
What do you mean HP?

the title says X10? Why would you try it on a HP?
[General Questions and Answers] YAMUM:
Geeks, please help us

Same prob

Now we know for sure, that xRecovery is dangerous if we don't know how to handle it :mad:
[General Questions and Answers] wildjohn:
i havent met any problem entering the xrecovery menu even when i first installed it even though i was a complete noob on android (now i am just noob:p)

only thing i was doing is that i never pressed the back button only 3 times, i always keep pressing it until i get the xrecovery menu
[General Questions and Answers] -SourceCode-:
Yes, keep pressing the back button until you enter the XRecovery menu.

If it still fails then I would revert my phone to the STOCK SE ROM (basically means repairing your phone using Sony Ericsson's PC Companion or Update Service utility), and then use FlashTool to root the device and install Busy Box and XRecovery.

FlashTool is basically an all in one solution and is less painful to use for beginners. Just do a search for it in the XDA forums.

Hope this helps.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] hoodwin1:
Hi, does anyone know if i will i be able to get the 2.2OTA released today for the Mytouch3G Fender LE over wifi if I'm using AT&T??:confused::confused::confused:
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] DonJuan692006:
I don't think so, but I'm just speculating. Most likely Google will use T-Mobile's list of subscribed users to select the devices for the update and, since your not a T-Mobile user, I don't think you'll be one of the one's. Patience though. It won't be long before the official update files will be on here, and you can then just manually update.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] hoodwin1:
thanks for replying! i didnt know i could manually update, im new to the whole android thing lol. do u know how long it usually takes for the update files to get here?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] DonJuan692006:
Depends. If my wife's phone would get the update, I'd have the files up right after. At most I'd say they'll be up before the 1st of February. All you should have to do is copy the files to your SD card, boot into recovery (power the phone on holding home+power, then hit home again once the triangle pops up), then select flash update.zip, and bam!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] hoodwin1:
Sounds awesome! Thanks :D
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] singlejm:
OK so I am considering rooting my Eris and have been reading up a bit. My main concern is that the phone is already flashed to Cricket and if I root it will it "unflash" or in any way affect the functionality of the phone? I don't want to pay another fee to get it flashed again. It works perfectly on Cricket right now (3G, navigation etc..) Also, if i can root this to get froyo 2.2 how can I ensure i have the latest version? Thanks for all the help in advance. Really looking forward to OC this baby to 700mhz like i have seen people do.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bftb0:
PM XDA (or androidforums.com) member "pkopalek", and give him a link to this thread - hopefully he will respond here.

When it comes to Cricket+Eris, he's the right person to ask.

You might also want to do an advanced search in the Eris forums using his member name and Cricket as a keyword.

e.g.

http://xdaforums.com/search.php?searchid=55944722

I know that he has used several - or many - dev ROMs on Cricket, but I am under the impression that there are some post-ROM-install steps that need to be performed.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bftb0:
Wow, Paul!

I figured you might give him some useful URLs, but you typed up the "motherload" - thanks!
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pkopalek:
Yeah I didn't realize it, it was so quick. I'll probably refer others to that post now!
[HD2 General] HTC-clown:
The key can be used multiple times, so it would be nice if some people are willing to share. I can't get a key at the moment because the lines are closed but I can't wait to try some stuff out. I would really appreciate it if some one can send me one in a private message.
[HD2 General] inasar:
+1

any generous souls reading this?
[HD2 General] badassballer:
i thought there was limit on the number of times the key could be used?
[HD2 General] mosbarzi:
Which country you're from?
[HD2 General] HTC-clown:
from what I've heard the key can be used 3 times, do It seems like no one wants to share their key. I thought better of this community
[HD2 General] mosbarzi:
I'm just giving you this as a warning, I got the activation code about one hour ago by calling MS customer support in US, after I activated with the code I could login with my Live ID but then I realized that the softwares I installed using XAP like HTC HUB, YouTube, Flashlight, ... were not working anymore and it gave me an error like this app has been provoked by MS please uninstall it, so don't bother getting the activation code.

You won't be able to download app from market place after activation and I personally think that they're marking us out by giving out the activation code so easilly over the phone!

EDIT : First I had to change the name of the device from LEO70 to HD7 and then activate wp7 by the code, sooooo it was my mistake and now everything just works fine including the marketplace but I had to uninstall and reinstall the provoked apps. :)
[HD2 General] fabio__sousa:
h?ow did you change the name of the device?
[HD2 General] GuestK00102:
Just follow the guide for activating live on WP7 Rom...and your device name will change itself(well for me it did so I assume it will for all) and then call MS and get the activation code.
[HD2 General] Tho San Thanh Pho:
hd2 wp7 name change

one way to change the name is to sync it with the zune pc app and then go to sync settings and then chang ethe name from there

:cool:
[HD2 General] Psygnosis84:
That just changes the name.

You need to change the Model name and you can't just do that.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=912218

follow the instructions well and it'll change it to HD7
[HD2 General] RadiantSkies:
You thought better of this community? First the key is supposedly tied to your Live ID, so thats a no go there. Also, 3 times is a very small amount, if something goes wrong with my phone and I need to re-activate it once or twice after the first, then I sure as hell want to. If you want a key so bad get one your self like everyone else, or go buy a real certified Windows Phone 7 device. Besides, I can almost guarantee the first or second OTA update will most certainly kill this exploit, even if the HD2 isn't able to receive it.
[HD2 General] geddeeee:
Totally agree!!! Do the work yourselves....

It took me a 5 minute phone call to get an activation code from Microsoft. No questions, no hassles. MS can't just track you down via e-mail or your Live ID. There are Data Protection Laws.

Microsoft only go after the 'big fish'

Don't worry. Just do it and enjoy Cotulla and DFT's awesome port!!!!

A middle finger to the people who said 'it will never happen'

Ha ha ha....................
[HD2 General] TheATHEiST:
Very well put.

Got sick of all these people pming me and creating posts/topics begging for keys.
[Droid 2 General] tmsullivan333:
Ok, so I've seen a few threads here and there that are about this but none of them really have any answers so I'm sorry if this is answered somewhere else, but I wasn't able to find it.

Anyway, which ROMs can be flashed on the R2D2 version of Droid 2?

I've noticed that on a few they say DO NOT FLASH ON R2D2 so now I'm a little paranoid on installing any.

Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanx!
[Droid 2 General] iwearhats:
Lucky for you, there's this...

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...-r2-d2-droid-2-keep-all-r2-d2-theme-bits.html

While I didn't follow this, it's basically the same process I performed back in October.

More than happy to answer any questions you have...
[Droid 2 General] tmsullivan333:
Thanx iwearhats

so the only thing i have left is that would my warranty be completely voided if i did that because it seems like there is no way to get back to the factory settings one the system version has been changed to 2.3?
[Droid 2 General] iwearhats:
hit that newly added Thanks Button... ;)

not "completely".

While it may not warrant an exchange at a Verizon store, you should still be able to file an insurance claim.