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[Vibrant Themes and Apps] joesimich:
pushing to blackfroyo Nero v4

Sam,

Are you planning on pushing these icons to your blackfroyo? If that is too much work totally cool I am just not sure how to do it.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] C-4Nati:
How do I apply this using the stock nero b4 launcher?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] GreggoryD502:
Thank you very much Sam. They look so good.

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[Vibrant Themes and Apps] mikedfromaz:
extract?

When you say extract to your sd card, does that mean unzip on your computer and then put that on your sd card, or just simply extract it from the computer and put it on the sd card like a normal zip?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] GreggoryD502:
I downloaded it to my phone then used astro to extract them. No need to use a pc.

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[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Nabeel10:
Awesome thank you Sam!!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] serban954:
Wront thread lol
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] bemho:
Tutorial

Sam I really really like your icon pack great work. Do you by chance have a tutorial put together that I can follow to make some of my other icons look just like these? For example so I can make a black Titanium backup Icon as well as other icons. If you don't have a tutorial no problem but figured it would not hurt to ask.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Mossy425:
In Launcher Pro under theme settings it has a section for choosing an icon pack. Since these did not show up there does that mean it has to be an icon pack.apk while this one is just a .zip file containing many pictures?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] antichromatic:
MODS - PLEASE DELETE, SEE BELOW

Hello all,

I was working with my gf's CDMA Hero and I think that I have turned it into a brick. Here's the rundown of what will and will not happen...

WILL:

- power up to HTC logo screen. Occasionally will reboot on its own to HTC logo screen.

WON'T

- boot into recovery ROM by holding down HOME button when powering up. Was using Clockwork 3.0.0.5.

- boot into fastboot mode by holding down VOL DOWN button when powering up.

- boot into hboot mode by holding down VOL UP button when powering up.

- boot into OS. Was using CyanogenMod 6.1.0.

- initiate factory reset by holding down HOME and BACK buttons when powering up.

- restore via HTC Sprint RUU installer.

- appear as visible to ADB.

All the threads I've looked through so far seem to indicate that if you get an HTC screen, you aren't bricked. On the other hand, none of those threads have described the situation I'm in. Please help!

UPDATE - Moments after posting this, I was able to get back into the recovery mode and RUU'd the lil' bastard.
[Epic 4G General] herbthehammer:
I have to go and pay my bill up to date tomorrow. I am very seriously thinking about the evo shift for obvious reasons. Does anyone have any thoughts on this subject or actually bought it? I'm interested in what you have to say.
[Epic 4G General] Electrofreak:
I'm not really sure what those obvious reasons are. The EVO Shift 4G has a slower processor, worse GPU, smaller screen, LCD instead of SAMOLED, and on all other points save Android 2.2 just about comes even with the Epic 4G. It's an attractive phone, and it probably has reasonable build quality (haven't had one in my hands yet) but I fail to see why it would be worth switching from an Epic 4G for.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Trade the best phone on sprint for a midrange phone? GREAT IDEA. /s
[Epic 4G General] raylusk:
I don't believe the processor is slower. Just because it has a slower clock speed doesn't make it slower.
[Epic 4G General] ryno502:
True...but its slower. Hummingbird is the fastest mobile processor until the dual cores come out.
[Epic 4G General] flawlessbmxr:
the only really good thing with the sliding keyboard is that it has no spring for it to kick out/back in. so less of a chance of it snaping/breaking anything. but its annoying to slide it. quadrant score on my store demo got 1298. beat our demo Evo by 200. so its not too bad actually for speed
[Epic 4G General] herbthehammer:
I could swap phones with my old lady. She's got my evo. She doesn't really care about bigger badder better. Stuff I didn't like with the evo was its battery life, the radios were kinda deaf, and it wasn't very tolerant to temperature in the summer. Taking samsung out of the picture really narrows down the choices.

Yes, I'm impatient waiting for the real samsung update. That's my issues of obvious reasons. Plus, there's a lot of community development for htc compared to epic. Which will come first, official froyo or final (not beta or rc) cyanogen? That is the 164,000 dollar question. No 4g love either yet. I know, I'm ungrateful and too picky...
[Epic 4G General] the5ifty:
My wife traded her transform for one today, it pulled a 1634 in quadrant and over 34 in linpack before we left the parkinglot... maxed at 59fps too. 100% stock obviously.
[Epic 4G General] the5ifty:
I'm due 4 an upgrade in Feb..it was going to be an evo but damn that phone flys!
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
nope itll take something better than the epic for that

id love an epic with no 4g
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
it seems largely based off the g2 to me...so it should be similar?

And even though its 800mhz, its still better than the Evo's at 1ghz.

Also, it should be a whole lot more dev friendly since htc likes to use the same stuff, so it should be easy to OC it to a stable 1.6ghz like the g2 or a 2ghz unstable bull

But I think that'd still be a major downgrade from the epic.

The only upside in my opinion is the better development its guaranteed to have,or atleast easier development since its basically already been worked on so much as the Desire Z
[Epic 4G General] blackdragon79:
I'm going trade my epic in tomorrow for a sanyo m1 lol
[Epic 4G General] dragonisinogard:
No, but I am jumping ship for the atrix!

Boo
[Epic 4G General] Electrofreak:
Trust me, it's slower. I'm a tech blogger and I've written about Hummingbird and Snapdragon. Google "Hummingbird vs. Snapdragon" and click the first link.

The Hummingbird beats Snapdragon MHz for MHz in processing power due to some heavy tweaking by the engineers at Intrinsity (which is now owned by Apple, the bastards!)

The MSM7630 in the HTC Knight is Qualcomm's 2nd-Gen "low-end" Snapdragon. It's not really a Snapdragon per se (Qualcomm chose to omit that brand from the MSM line of SoCs), but it's got the Scorpion CPU inside which is the backbone of the Snapdragon platform. It features a better graphics GPU than its Snapdragon predecessors, an Adreno 205 instead of an Adreno 200, which just about doubles graphics performance from what I've seen. However, it still doesn't come close to the PowerVR SGX540 our Epic 4G is rocking, which is still nearly twice as powerful as the Adreno 205. One other improvement the MSM7630 has is that it's manufactured on the 45 nm feature size, whereas the first-gen Snapdragons like the one in the EVO 4G are running on a 65 nm process, and are significantly less power efficient. The Epic 4G however already is on the 45 nm process and achieves about the same level of power efficiency.

From a hardware standpoint, going from an Epic 4G to an HTC EVO Shift 4G is a downgrade in every way.
[Epic 4G General] boominz28:
do you think it would be possible for you to do the same type of review on the camera for the epic against the evo and the iphone 4g? I read your last blog on the processors, and I must say dude im prety technical and you blew me away with your analysis!
[Epic 4G General] Electrofreak:
Eh, I'm not a photo guy, I don't do cameras. I don't know jack about all that stuff and I'm afraid I wouldn't do a very good job. :-\

I have been getting bugged to do a review of Cortex-A9 (specifically Tegra 2, Orion, OMAP 4400 etc) as well as the 2nd/3rd gen Snapdragons, but I'm working on my CCNA and MSCITP certifications right now and I'm trying not to let myself get too distracted; once I start researching and writing all of my spare time gets flushed down the crapper!

The problem is that you guys are using Quadrant and Linpack. Snapdragon CPUs always perform better in Quadrant because it isn't a well-built benchmark. Linpack is fooled by Snapdragon's Virtual Floating Point extension.

I'd like to see the scores it gets on Smartbench 2010, a new benchmark tool that I'm still not sure I trust completely but definitely seems to be more accurate than Quadrant.
[Epic 4G General] bighuta:
Have you guys read any posts from the senior members/devs? QUADRANT IS A JOKE. It caters toward snapdragon SoC's quadrant means nothing in R/L speeds.

sent from my brain telepathically :-D
[Epic 4G General] ghostrid3r:
if you're gonna trade-in, trade-in for an upgrade like a Tegra 2 chipset phone. Not a downgrade to a HTC Swift. :rolleyes:

FYI, Sprint has no Tegra 2 phones in their stables right now.
[Epic 4G General] J3COMPUTERSERVICES:
Go with the Evo 4g , or something other than a Samsung phone I just swapped it for my wife's Evo and I don't regret it!support wise is a lot better (meaning custom roms, etc...). The only thing I miss is the SAMOLED thats it. The Evo Shift feels very smooth just like a G2 and once someone ports that Desire Z rom its going to be very nice!
[Epic 4G General] abrognlie:
For me, the most important downgrade would be the lack of a front-facing camera on the Shift. When I am deployed, it would be much nicer to be able to video-chat with my wife when I can find a wifi spot with my Epic.
[Epic 4G General] Electrofreak:
Nobody has Tegra 2 phones for sale yet. In another month or two maybe we'll start seeing them pop up.
[Epic 4G General] ghostrid3r:
Israel does... :p

http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-star-dual-core-tegra-2-smartphone-gets-hands-treatment-gsm-israel
[Epic 4G General] Electrofreak:
I stand corrected! :D
[Epic 4G General] fifedogg:
Considering I have both phones I def believe the shift is faster even with sense running in the backround. I know benchmarks aren't everything but 1599 quandrand and 34.01 linpack all stock is no slouch. The Epic does have a better screen but only marginally. Once they complete an overclockable kernel the Shift is gonna kill the Epic (maybe not mhz for mhz but still). My friends G2 @ 1.8 hit 3100+ (dont remember the exact number) on quadrant. Not to mention the battery life on this thing is soo much better than the Epic. You should check the phone out and see how smooth it runs. I'm not all that impressed with the Samsung phones. The build quality just isnt there yet like HTC's are. Either way its just preference as both phones are nice.
[Epic 4G General] Electrofreak:
Ugh. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Quadrant is a worthless benchmark when you're comparing different processors, and linpack is fooled by Snapdragon's Virtual Floating Point extension.

I'm sure it will OC very well; the G2 OCs well because it's a 45-nm phone running at 800 MHz... it's basically a downclocked, more-efficient Snapdragon. In addition, the Adreno 205 GPU lends quite a bit to benchmark values, tho it's still not on par with the SGX540 in our Epics.

I've been doing some research into the MSM7630 and there's still too many question marks hanging over the chipset. I believe it's identical to the G2's processor but with CDMA support, in the same way that the original Snapdragon QSD8250 (ie Nexus One) with CDMA support is labeled QSD8650 (ie EVO). Since the Epic 4G still scores better overall in real benchmarks (try Smartbench 2010, GLBenchmark, or 0xBench instead of Quadrant) than the G2, I don't doubt it will outperform the HTC EVO Shift 4G in the same way.

Still, I suspect most of the improvement in Quadrant scores between the EVO and the G2 / Shift 4G are GPU-related... the Adreno 205 performs MUCH better than the original Adreno 200. Remember that Quadrant's free edition combines scores, so improvements in GPU are going to cause substantial improvements in scores that can easily be misread.

All that said, I won't knock your experience with the two phones side-by-side, since all I'm working with is some tech knowledge and benchmarks. But also consider this, it's running STOCK 2.2, while we're all running a half-baked 2.2 leak. Also consider the JIT compiler for 2.2 has been optimized for Snapdragon, not Hummingbird, though we'll probably see some changes to this now that the Nexus S is Google's flagship phone (note: Gingerbread also includes some enhancements to JIT.)
[Epic 4G General] LordLugard:
.....and what exactly do these scores translate to in daily use? :confused:

Everyone throws quadrant and linpack scores around as if they specifically extrapolate into anything specific. I find it bewildering. What exactly does a quadrant of xxx and linpack of yyy do? Does it make the web pages load fasterer, does it make the geebees betterer?

Obviously the leap from the Transform to the Evo Shift (and to be fair anything else really) is a big one in terms of hardware alone...
[Epic 4G General] Quis89:
Have you played with a Shift? The real world speeds are almost identical.
[Epic 4G General] Electrofreak:
The differences in processing performance we're talking about are hardly perceptible, particularly when we're talking about how powerful these phones have become.

It's kinda like seeing how fast the Windows Start Menu opens on two high-end desktops with different processors. Phones have become faster and Android has been optimized; you're hard-pressed to find any Android phone that performs poorly nowadays (aside from the Transform... I still can't believe they put an ARM11 SoC in that phone.)

I'm definitely not making the argument that the HTC EVO Shift 4G is a bad phone, but it IS a downgrade from the Epic in terms of top-end hardware performance at stock, even if the difference isn't something you're going to notice casually playing with the phone.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Wow op your nuts. I will get a new phone when samsung makes a 4.5 inch super amoled plus screen with 1.6 mhz dual cores and keyboard. Why get that phone and waste your money. Dumb

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[Epic 4G General] drewX2:
JIT complier is optimized for the snapdragon cpu, however it isnt for the hummingbird. This is why the scores are so high.

Comparing strictly by hardware specifications , it is not better than Hummingbird found in Galaxy S.
[Epic 4G General] infamousjax:
HTC > Samsung.

Nuff said.
[Epic 4G General] boominz28:
personally I have been a fan of htc for a long time but geez seriously going from epic to evo shift , you just threw your money away then.

I dont like the comments that people are saying its using 2.2 wait till we get 2.2 or 2.3)

thats like saying "you think your tough , wait till my little brother gets here fromt he army , he will whoop ya" lol

besides if you want a shift then get one and shush about it lol
[Epic 4G General] RushAOZ:
I'm sorry but if your trading your epic for a shift you don't need to have smartphone. I'm just as angry as the next person when it comes to froyo not being released yet. 2.2 is the ONLY advantage the shift has over the epic. No it isn't faster. No the gpu isn't better. The screen fails in comparison. That dpad is pointless? No the keyboard isn't better. The camera doesn't even hold up. IMO the epic still wins even with 2.1. I ran quadrant and even though the shift scored higher the epic finished first. (Lol) Anyone who has played with both can tell you those numbers are lying. You'll lose out on much more than you thought you would of gained.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Yeah go post this **** in the shift forum.
[Epic 4G General] rocket321:
I can't imagine that if you played with both for 10 minutes you would walk out of the store with the Shift. So much of a phone is the screen we stare at all day and the Epic handily beats the Shift's screen in size and quality.
[Epic 4G General] chris378:
We just got the HTC Shift inour store and it is very cheap looking..the slide is very rough and it doesnt kick out when pushed half way..you have to push the keyboard out all the way for it to lock. Even without the battery in the phone it is heavier then my Epic. Based on the look of the phone im scared to even turn it on to see what the graphics and how smooth the scrolling is gonna be
[Epic 4G General] lawsofpower48:
i just traded my epic for the new PPC 6700!!!! the size beats the epic out ANYDAY! nice size compared to a brick!
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
I just got my wife a shift and I have to say that I'm impressed. It feels better in the hand than the epic and to those who claim the keyboard is tough to get out, its really not bad. It doesn't have a spring, true, but it also does not have even a little wiggle. The phone just feels solid. I ran smartbench on it and the scores for productivity were on par (though a little lower) than the epic however the graphics were a different beast altogether. Even just running the benchmark without seeing the score the difference in gpu is incredibly evident. The 3d rendering just absolutely crawls in comparison and it shows in the near 1600 point deficit (1100 versus 2650). I will test again once my phone is closer to stock and update.
[Epic 4G General] upperkingjr:
Ill trade my brand new evo 4g for a shift. Upperking@gmail.com
[Epic 4G General] bjhill2112:
LMAO - my dad (a Sprint employee) still has his 6700 sitting on his desk at home (he currently has a Hero and will probably be switching to the Shift).
[Epic 4G General] Electrofreak:
That's more what I expected. Again, Quadrant scores simply aren't to be trusted.

^This. You know something's wrong with a benchmark when one phone finishes the benchmark tests before the other and yet gets a lower score. :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
So its like the droid and droid 2 slider eh

sent from my epic 4g with no 4g
[Epic 4G General] thechicgeak:
Thats great. I am going to go to the Sprint store soon and see if they have one for me to try. The only other thing I would worry about is how hackable it is. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the Droid X, Droid 2, and G2 still don't have any custom kernels. They have very strong protections against putting on custom firmwares, I know that. Thats too bad that the GPU is weak. That is really the only down side as every other hardware component is stronger in the G2 and the Shift (yes the CPU is in fact faster, even at 800 mhz, and it is more overclockable).
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
The cpu can get overclocked to higher speeds, but mhz for mhz its slower.

Why is it so hard for people to understand -_-

That being said, I wish the hummingird was at a stable 1.8ghz lol
[Epic 4G General] thechicgeak:
If you are saying "mhz for mhz" the G2 is slower than the Epic, you are sadly mistaken, my friend. I suggest you look at some stock apples to apples benchmarks. Glbenchmarks or benchmarkpi (better for CPU) is a good place to go for that.
[Epic 4G General] jpj526:
Yeaaaahhh....umm, pardon my ignorance, but I don't see any reasons to get the Shift over the Epic at all...let alone any obvious ones. Unless the beautiful 4" AMOLED screen on the Epic is just a little too big for you, and you're looking for something a little more pocketable (or purseable... yea i know, I just made that word up.)

But on a serious note... you're getting a smaller (and far less attractive) screen, a slower processor and gpu, less storage, NO front facing camera..

It's SO simple to flash a custom rom on your Epic to GREATLY improve it's speed and overall performance and in the process, add Android 2.2 to it.. it seems that you'd keep your Epic "for obvious reasons". lol

install midNIGHT 2.8 on your epic and format it to the new ext4 file system, and watch it just become BLAZING fast. my Epic is so unbelieveably fast now that I've flashed the midNIGHT ROM on it, it's absolutely amazing.

I definitely wouldn't downgrade to the Shift from it. That would be like trading in your new BMW for a new Ford Fusion. Yeah...the Fusion is a nice car.. but c'mon.

I can't believe people are seriously considering this. The idea of it makes me lol.
[Epic 4G General] thechicgeak:
In every way except GPU and front facing camera (I think?) it is an upgrade. Admittedly, in some ways it just comes down to personal preference (such as the size and the screen). If you take a look at technical comparisons, btw, the original Droid had the most accurate screen (the screen that most accurately reproduced colors how they actually appear).

There was a study done, and they showed the SAMOLED produced colors that "popped" really well, but that it oversaturated all the colors (which is what makes it look so vibrant). As I said, that comes down to preference. If you prefer accurate colors, stay away from SAMOLED. If you prefer a screen that produces unrealistically beautiful colors, than you probably would like SAMOLED better. For more info on this check out http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_1.htm

Also, SAMOLED uses more juice than most LCD screens, the whole when-black-is-showing-it-saves-battery thing doesn't save as much battery as you would think. That being said, SAMOLED does use less juice than regular AMOLED, AMOLED just happens to be battery intensive to begin with.

I would love to agree with you guys since, like all of you, I was VERY excited for this phone and put down the $250 to get it.

EDIT: Took out snarky comments.
[Epic 4G General] jpj526:
I'm gonna look up the specs right now... but if you have them handy...could you back up this statement with some specs?

I fail to see how the Shift is an "obvious upgrade" from the Epic, but I'm all ears...

For whatever reason.. I see a lot of people on here dislike Samsung for whatever reason and are HTC fanboys (reminiscent of the apple community, lol)

I guess it would be one thing if you were in the market for a smartphone and chose the Shift over the Epic, but to sell the Epic and purchase the Shift with the idea that it's a far better phone is something I fail to see.
[Epic 4G General] jpj526:
Here's a good comparison chart for those interested in comparing the specs of the two, side by side:

http://www.wirefly.com/learn/resources/cell-phone-comparison/htc-evo-shift-vs-samsung-epic-4g/
[Epic 4G General] rufflez2010:
Hero was my first htc device. I really liked it. Its built like a rock. I've dropped it many times and its got its war wounds and still runs (even cracked the screen and replaced it myself). I've had the epic since release. It feel like plastic, which is nice cause it saves weight. But they put quality where it counts. I've dropped this phone so many times, not 1 mark. I leave it out of a case (naked for the win) and the screen is just as beautiful as it was on day 1. Keyboard buttons still press like they are new. Performance, second to none. I cringe when I see the benchmarks of htc phones. They should be really embarassed. The graphics benchmarks look aweful, and considering I'm going to be looking at the screen mostly, that's a HUGE downfall. I do not see how htc anything is an upgrade right now. Plus, I don't miss sense. Kinda grew on this touchwiz thing. I will jump to cm when everything is fixed.
[Epic 4G General] thechicgeak:
Specs are good, but they can be misleading. For example, look here: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core2+Solo+U3500+@+1.40GHz . Notice the Core 2 Solo is 1.4ghz and is a single core proc. The Mobile Pentium 4 is 3.33ghz and is single core, and the regular Pentium 4 is 3.00ghz. iI you just look at the specs, the Pentiums should beat the pants off of the Core 2, right? Over twice as fast! Wrong, the 1.4ghz Core 2 Solo is really faster than both. Thats because it uses a superior, more efficient architecture that gets over twice as much work done per cycle.

Same with 800mhz proc in the G2 and Evo Shift. While the clock speed is lower, it gets more done per cycle. While it is not as dramatic as the Core 2 Solo vs Pentium 4, it comes out in benchmarks. The 800mhz proc in the G2 and Evo Shift is slightly faster than the 1ghz proc in the Epic. And from everything I have read it is more overclockable too. Double whammy for the Evo Shift CPU.