yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fascinate Android Development] rw9:
^^^Valid arguement. It's been a bit since I looked at it and they may have polished it up since then. I like the native client as far as a consistent look feel within the phone's OS. Same with the calendar... AOSP is fine in terms of functionality too. I'm just frustrated with Samsung's watered down version and evident "breaking" of native functionality by replacing the apps. Again though, I'm just greatful that the dev crew have been able to make the strides that they have so far...
[Fascinate Android Development] Syn Ack:
Wait.. I'm confused lol... Is this a :mad: or a :cool: to what I just said. OR is it a :confused: LOL. Anyway... I am on 2.2 as well if that's what you're getting at. Once I got onboard with jt1134's Vanilla Froyo I couldn't go back to 2.1..... I just.... couldn't.
[Fascinate Android Development] rmcusc:
http://phandroid.com/2011/01/25/froyo-for-samsung-fascinate-reportedly-leaked-being-cooked-up-as-a-rom/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
[Fascinate Android Development] pkopalek:
I miss having a notification light.

And a trackball (which also lights up).

And physical call/end buttons.

And a fast-locking GPS.

And decent reception.

And having the home button on the left.

But OTHER than that, it's definitely nice to have a much faster phone with a bigger screen. Unfortunately, the software makes it LESS capable than the Eris.

Thanks to developers in this forum, though, this is changing soon. With Cyanogen, this Fascinate COOKS, no lag, amazing responsiveness, built-in ability to blacklist (gasp! blacklist? samsung - what's that?), even without JIT.

Until cyanogenmod Froyo or more is out for the Fascinate, I, HONSTLY, still grab my Eris more than I grab my Fascinate (I still have both, thankfully, activated). Cyanogenmod will change that. But not until then. HTC's product(s) have better hardware (better cdma antenna, better gps antenna, better wifi antenna, LED indicator lights [a STAPLE reason that android > iphone, which samsung ignorantly left out], and better software [samsung should have shipped vanilla android instead of ruining their product with their modified GUI]).

Kaosinate makes the Fascinate a great phone, like it was meant to be.

Until, and without it, the Eris (thanks in large part to the development work done for it) is a better overall phone, for the reasons I mentioned at the top. Just not as fast. And screen not as big. If that stuff's more important to you, you can make an argument for the Fascinate being better.
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
I don't need to make an argument. Most of us came from the Eris at some point and without Kaos the Eris was a piece of ****. So thanks again Kaos.

gots kaos on my ****s. ha ha
[Fascinate Android Development] yutsoku:
Okay while your point is noted, take stock eris vs stock fascinate use them both heavily for one month and come back here and send me a message and tell me which you prefer. I am an ex eris owner, I am a new fascinate owner. I bought the fascinate at retail price because I work for verizon, and our dealer lines aren't on contract, so no upgrades.

So with me working for verizon which phone do you think I get more complaints over? How many people love the eris? How many people have negative things to say about the fascinate? This is just end users with no root... Fascinate wins 100% of the time.

Now for the people here who have a fascinate and *know* about all the problems (which the main problem is samsung isn't playing nice) that's what has everyones panties in a twist. This phone should have been released with 2.2 and should have a 2.3 upgrade in the works. This phone shouldn't have a defective GPS... Other than that, there's really not much to complain about. OLED technology is amazing, the battery life on this phone is great (it beats my old eris) the hummingbird processor makes this phone fast and smooth.. and that's just a short list of things. The hardware of this phone is awesome... Galaxy S phones are easily the best and fastest phones on the market... The only problem is with RFS and crappy samsung coding we can't use the phone at it's full potential

Seriously... trackball and physical call and hang up buttons? I'd rather have a dedicated camera button on the fascinate than those. Notification light would be okay but I don't find it necessary. I never looked at it on my eris, I always grab my phone and turn the screen on to check for notifications rather a notification is there or not, you're turning on your screen.
[Fascinate Android Development] mccloskeym:
Couldn't agree more man.

I have both and 99% the fascinate smokes the Eris, but Kaos managed to eek out every ounce of power and totally maximize that phone.

I can only imagine how much nicer it will be with this phone. I run super clean right now and it makes 2.1 tolerable although the voice search etc. Is nicer on 2.2.
[Fascinate Android Development] Jbuch84:
Thought this was Kaos' thread concerning his 2.2 build for fascinate? I must have clicked Eris, opps! ;-)

Just kidding guys, Kaos... I love your work!
[Fascinate Android Development] xvoorheesx:
I concur.

Sent from my SCH-I500
[Fascinate Android Development] pkopalek:
Bad reception.

This phone gets a fluctuating 8-15dbm WORSE reception than any motorola or HTC verizon phone around. We did extensive testing here in the office before we purchased 19 android phones from Verizon. The Fascinate's cell antenna just doesn't match up.

Which is pathetic, considering Samsung has been making CDMA phones for years.

So everything else, I can't argue with you about. But when I lose 3g reception (frequently) in my own office, and sometimes signal altogether when I'm way out (in places I've never lost reception with even most dumb-phones), I can't call this Phone better.

Software will make me use it more and like it more (like kaosinate). But even right now, as my indicator in the status bar says 1x (literally, right this second), I keep telling myself 'screen and processor. screen and processor. that's why I got this thing).'

Developers here putting together things like Kaosinate will make this phone much more amazing, and tap more into its real capabilities. Which is great. And I'll be probably grabbing this phone much much more than the Eris eventually. Unfortunately, ROM development can't do much to get you better reception. And that's a bottom line I can't dismiss. Especially while traveling.
[Fascinate Android Development] ivorycruncher:
I could be wrong, but according to a tweet from jt a while back, it sounds like the custom RIL he created for use with his Froyo ROM created a far more stable radio connection than Samsung's RIL. Poor antenna design is one thing, but software can have a lot to do with reception these days too. I'm hoping to discover that this is truly the case when I eventually migrate to Kaoscinate.
[Fascinate Android Development] upsidedownaaron:
ivory is right. people keep forgetting that sammy released this beauty with a 1.6 RIL.

as an apple guy, i remember when the iphone was having coverage (worse than its usual bad coverage) trouble and it was all a bad batch of firmware. so when jt and kaos fix/rebuild this ril, i would imagine reception would go up dramatically.

i am not sure if many posters here realize, we are now in an age when the hardware we buy is significantly ahead of the firmware/software available to utilize it.

i got my first personal laptop 8 years ago, and this phone has 4 times the cpu speed, 10 times the memory, and a bomber screen. its a 1ghz processor and it only runs at about 33 to 34c without any fans. thats pretty damn impressive.

oh, and where is that froyo leak?

:D
[Fascinate Android Development] miguel11691:
Agreed 100%... and where is the leak lol... i wonder how much it takes to clean a rom from all watermarks
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
Well, remember when dj05 was leaked? It was, what, a week or so before the devs released it? So maybe similar time frame for froyo?

Wild guess...
[Fascinate Android Development] upsidedownaaron:
i am imagining, and believe me, i am just spitballin' here,

that since a bulk of the froyo rom build has been done by both kaos and jt, the one thing they were waiting on was a .32 kernel to unbug their roms. so i would wager that this will come a lot quicker than what it took to make dj05 work.
[Fascinate Android Development] rmcusc:
I just hope that the Samsung or Verizon Special Forces don't get to Kaos first. We need to start protecting his house in shifts. We prolly need to move him around. I feel like he is the "fifth element" or something lol. We fight for honor, we fight for glory, but most of all we fight for Kaos! FFFFFRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDOOOOOOOMMMMMM! lol
[Fascinate Android Development] freeformlaw:
hey guys i am having some problems here.

i keep getting

E: Can't mount /dev/block/st19

E: can't mount system

E: failure at line 2

then it aborts the installation. Can any one help.

Thanks in advance
[Fascinate Android Development] piiman:
What are you trying to do?
[Fascinate Android Development] bradlove17:
haha. would be weird if samsung/Verizon were even mad about this. Our community here is definitely the most vocal about the 2.2 delays..maybe these leaks are somewhat purposeful in order to appease us hard core users. The average fascinate owner probably doesn't know or care about 2.2 and they'll get 2.2 on Samsung's/Verizion's time line and be happy about it.

Also, I kinda always thought Adrynalyne was the one that had the leaky contact and usually turned up with them? I'm pretty sure kaos didn't get it first since he mentioned jt had let the cat out of the bag in his tweet. just speculation though...
[Fascinate Android Development] Crashspeeder:
Are you using voodoo? It sounds to me like it's trying to mount /system as ext4 but can't
[Fascinate Android Development] Syn Ack:
Maybe if it was iOS or Windows Phone 7 OS or anything else. Android is Open Source and pretty legit, I seriously doubt they're going to come after him for having a "leaked copy" especially since he's not releasing or distributing the copy and ESPECIALLY not selling it. It's free, like open source was meant to be. He'll be perfectly fine as long as all he's using it for is to debug his own kernel and push out his own copy of the Fascinate Froyo.

Keyword here is open source and not for sale.
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
I'll answer your question with a question, did you read the first post?

gots kaos on my ****s. ha ha
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Trust me... y'all don't want to mess with the leaked build. It will be slow, bloated, probably more buggy than even this alpha build, and nearly impossible to root if you don’t know how to use adb. When the "official" DL09 build leaked, it was like this; I wish I had waited for one of the dev ROMs. Also, I installed the froyo leak on my Captivate as soon as it was released last fall, before any of the Captivate devs had a chance to release a ROM, and I regret not having waited then, too. So this time I'm gonna wait until kaos and jt have near-stable builds completed (yes, I said both names because I plan to try out both ROMs).

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[Fascinate Android Development] imnuts:
They're cleaning the watermarks by distilling and deionizing it. It can be quite the lengthy process :p
[Fascinate Android Development] Crashspeeder:
Why are you asking me? I'm not the one having trouble installing froyo. I'm merely trying to help freefromlaw troubleshoot why he got that error. I asked because the most likely reason he's getting that error is because he doesn't have voodoo currently.

Next time you try to get smart try reading more carefully.
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
Your right, my bad. I read it wrong. Just thought that if someone had to ask that question I should redirect them to the op. Sorry.

gots kaos on my ****s. ha ha
[Fascinate Android Development] destroyerbmx:
I dont think people should try any of this without already knowing adb, rooting, and linux basics. If something goes wrong you can easily fix it if you know those things.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
+1 to that...

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[Fascinate Android Development] mccloskeym:
Amen :-)
[Fascinate Android Development] freeformlaw:
Okay so it says that there is a wifi fix and a sdcard mount fix. I am not getting any of those i can't mount the sd card and i can't connect to a wifi connection. that and i cant see the signal bars on the status bar. I hate to sound like i am *****ing just wanting to know if i installed things wrong or something.
[Fascinate Android Development] Kaze105:
Seems like you may have done something wrong. How did you install this? (complete order)

I can get the sd card to mount and unmount just fine.
[Fascinate Android Development] Grimis:
Patiently waiting for version 5 or beta. ;)

Super Clean DL09 .4 w/ Adrynalyne's 1/21 uv Voodoo
[Fascinate Android Development] miguel11691:
Wonder if the Samsung media player and video player will be available... I love watching my movies in 5.1 sound with headsets and divx hd

Sent from my Rooted Samsung Fascinate... Waiting Patiently for Froyo smh
[Fascinate Android Development] baxtermedic:
+1

Cam xvid HD suck on my 50 " plasma but look and sound great on this little guy
[Fascinate Android Development] ksizzle9:
Most people who claim they know adb and Linux are just saying that too fit in. I have been messing with ROMS since the day the D1 and bugless beast and that other team that broke up(don't remember name, maybe droidmod) only since I got my fascinate have I truly learned about adb and things as simple as a system dump. Things like what that Guy said are why we had so many **** ups when voodoo came out the first time.
[Fascinate Android Development] baxtermedic:
It really sn't even that, I have been doing this since day one of the OG droid and have never screwed anything up, or even come close to it (except for throwing OG droid and destroying screen). If 90% of the people here with problems would read through the threads and, God forbid, google questions and concerned, there would be no problems, unless their hardware couldn't "physically" handle an OC o UV.

Just so we're clear I don't know ADB or linux or unix or any of this stuff. I do, however, know how to read.

Oh well.
[Fascinate Android Development] upsidedownaaron:
yep. exactly.
[Fascinate Android Development] jiggaman508:
+1 do you have any idea how many threads I've seen where people didn't flash clockwork through odin and they don't know why they can't get past the stock recovery...i dont mind helping out the community but I really wish people would just use the search button sometimes...
[Fascinate Android Development] miguel11691:
Indeed. Common sense

Sent from my Rooted Samsung Fascinate... Waiting Patiently for Froyo smh
[Fascinate Android Development] tmlhodge:
what is a rom? who is the kernel? and my clock already works so why do i need clockworkmod???? jk...

just wanna say thanks kaos, donating!

sent from my fascinate with voodoo while somehow supaclean
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Rom is a city in Italy, once the capital of the mighty Roman Empire. The Kernel is the mascot for KFC... have you been living in a cave or something? ;-)

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[Fascinate Android Development] tmlhodge:
Ha nice! Guess I should come out of this cave... Darn, someone finally called me out..
[Fascinate Android Development] baxtermedic:
has anyone heard from kaos lately?
[Fascinate Android Development] ssewk2x:
I would expect and hope that he's busy removing watermarks and other devilry from the leaked froyo kernel. Knowing that, I'm not expecting him to devote a lot of effort to this rom anymore, but rather to focus on getting a good and proper froyo build ready, kernel and all.

At least, a nerd can dream... ;)
[Fascinate Android Development] Ahodson1985:
Anyone make any undervolted kernel for this yet? Switched back from dl09 because I couldn't ever get a decent signal but the battery life sucks comparatively

Sent from my sch-i500 using dl09 supah clean
[Fascinate Android Development] Wadzii:
I installed this last night... seems to work pretty good with only 2 annoyances so far.. Wifi wont stay connected and the screen doesnt turn on when i get a call.

One question though. I'd like swype back on the phone.. is there an easy way to do that with this rom?

And the car dock now works like its supposed to.. thats honestly probably the best thing about this. I can finally use my car dock
[Fascinate Android Development] Ahodson1985:
Sign up for the swype beta while its still open. Swype.com

Sent from my sch-i500 using dl09 supah clean
[Fascinate Android Development] gardndj:
Double Post.
[Fascinate Android Development] gardndj:
You'll also need to delete libSwypeCore.so in /system/lib if present, otherwise the Swype installer won't license you device and then stop the install.
[Fascinate Android Development] tmlhodge:
actually, dropping my copy of swype.apk from 2.1 in the system/app folder on kaosinate worked great! You have to reboot to let it install automatically
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
Really? Where is everyone? Or is that fingernails I hear tapping? Lol the patience is amazing.

gots kaos on my ****s. ha ha
[Fascinate Android Development] upsidedownaaron:
its froyo for sure!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJQVlVHsFF8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Fascinate Android Development] Grimis:
they're at Lowes getting more stuff to fix the manure Sammy and Verizon gave us.

Super Clean DL09 .4 w/ JT's Fascinate voodoo w/Supercurio sound
[Fascinate Android Development] baxtermedic:
i think verizon got him...
[Fascinate Android Development] steeeler:
Son of a #$%&.

At least it wasn't Rick!
[Fascinate Android Development] turtle555:
That is so bad, what's even worse is that i watched half of it.
[Fascinate Android Development] drebel1:
Me too darn it
[Fascinate Android Development] gunnermike:
WHAT!!!!!! Iinstalled this a couple of days ago and the car doc didn't work. I went back to, something,I'm a flash whore, I kept an eye on the thread title for v5 to show up. If the car dock works I'm going back!

On another note, I do know and and some Linux, and I have bricked my phone, a lot. I flashed a Tom with Odin using the phone button, its not that bad. You can make all kinds of cool stuff with bricks.
[Fascinate Android Development] mccloskeym:
I am dumber for watching that... Yet it made me laugh :)
[Fascinate Android Development] ivorycruncher:
Hey, don't knock it. Some of the Eris faithful had some pretty nasty words for kaos lately, even after all he's done for them. I'm just glad to see the gang here patiently waiting for better things that we know are coming soon. :)
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
It would be great if there was a "flame extinguisher" built into the XDA site and apps to mark posts as "flame" (like marking reviews as spam on the Android Market) and filter them out from the user's view. I think most of us are sick of all the flaming people do on some of these threads, like the ungrateful Eris users you mentioned. Of course, I've seen quite a few less-than-respectful posts right here in the Fascinate forums by people sniping at each other... Impatience only [pun] fans the flames [/pun] :eek:
[Fascinate Android Development] miguel11691:
Lmfao

Sent from my Rooted Samsung Fascinate... Waiting Patiently for Froyo smh
[Fascinate Android Development] Grimis:
Hello. Is anybody here? Its been so quiet the past few days.

Super Clean DL09 .4 w/ JT's Fascinate voodoo w/Supercurio sound
[Fascinate Android Development] tmlhodge:
nobody is talking because nothing has changed for days and there have been no new tweets about the progress of this froyo leak.. kinda depressing, oh well im gonna stick it out and check back in a couple days.

Thanks Kaos for what you are doing, I hope verizon didnt get ahold of you.

--sent from my fascinate--
[Fascinate Android Development] upsidedownaaron:
Funniest part of my previously posted Hoff roll was watching my baby boy dance to it.
[Fascinate Android Development] gunnermike:
i cant seem to find a cm6 gapps. anyone have l link?
[Fascinate Android Development] JaeKar99:
Why hello there gunnermike! ... Try this: Link
[Fascinate Android Development] gunnermike:
hey, fancy seeing you here! thanks buddy.
[Fascinate Android Development] Syn Ack:
According to a cool dude named saps from the androidforums.com, here is the latest.

http://androidforums.com/fascinate-all-things-root/256188-alpha-froyo-punk-kaos-7.html#post2198313

This is where we're at for a little bit until that happens.
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
Thank you!

gots kaos on my ****s. ha ha
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
I saw a quote on this page that "Clockwork is a virtual no-go." Does this mean that Clockwork will never be able to flash a 2.2 ROM with the leaked .32 kernel? Will Odin be the only option going forward?

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[Fascinate Android Development] gunnermike:
thats what it sounds like. however i would imagine that since jt and kaos have a working 2.2 they would be working on that now. its only a matter of time before they make it work for 2.2. thats just a geuss though. i will say, and i dont know what this means, but adrynalyne has been awful quite.
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
That is possible, however I rember that clockwork would brick your Eris so we had to use amens recovery. And it was just as easy to use as clockwork if not easier. That might be the way we go. I don't know either, but just another thought.

gots kaos on my ****s. ha ha
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
I just read some articles on Droid Life about Koush, including a 1-on-1 interview by a reporter named Tim-o-tato (if any of my friends read this part of this post they'd probably call the boys with the white lab coats and the straightjacket, because I'm citing references named Koush and Tim-o-tato ;-) ). The upshot of my research is this: if Koush was able to sidestep the dreaded Droid X bootloader to get his Clockwork recovery to work, it should be a trivial matter for him to make his recovery program work with the .32 Froyo kernel for the Fascinate. Sooner or later, Clockwork will work on the leaked build, even if jt and kaos don't clear this hurdle first themselves :-)

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[Fascinate Android Development] Daswolven:
Which recovery is irrelevant to the fact that it will happen.

And soon. :)
[Fascinate Android Development] ivorycruncher:
FWIW, I recall seeing Adrynalyne say something in the IRC channel to the effect of Samsung changed some of the mount points, meaning Clockworkmod will need to be adapted to the new layout before it will work properly. It isn't that it won't work, just that the current version is not compatible. I'm guessing that by the time they release the leaked ROM, there will be a new CWM to match, if not shortly thereafter.
[Fascinate Android Development] ivorycruncher:
Oh, and btw (I'm surprised nobody posted this yet), Kaos is still working on CM6 with the 2.6.29 kernel. Looks like he's on his way to get 3D hardware acceleration working.
[Fascinate Android Development] tmlhodge:
Yeah, that blows.. I just want pandora to work.... I have an hour commute everyday and if I don't have pandora, I would go crazy, lol maybe version 5.. Meanwhile, superclean :(
[Fascinate Android Development] Grimis:
You don't have music on your sd card?

Super Clean DL09 .4 w/ JT's Fascinate voodoo w/Supercurio sound
[Fascinate Android Development] Kaze105:
Hmm considering jt and kaos froyo hasnt been updated for a while, I really hope they are working and cleaning the actual release. Im having small bug/problems on this one that sometimes annoy me.

Is anyone able to turn off volume and vibration on their phone for phone calls? Mine seems to get stuck on vibration and wont become no volume.
[Fascinate Android Development] tmlhodge:
That's a cyanogen setting you can change, I've done it when I was on koas's
[Fascinate Android Development] xvoorheesx:
???????????

Sent from my SCH-I500
[Fascinate Android Development] tmlhodge:
great post