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[Fascinate Android Development] SirGatez:
I know eveyone here is hyped up about the CM6 vs CM7, and as I mentioned some other are working on Gingerbread but for the time being I am going to work on Froyo. It is not only a matter of which is better or which CM is more up to date.

We do not yet fully understand how the radio is loading on cdma devices or if we even have control of it loading. With Froyo we have Samsungs FSR drivers which maybe assisting in loading the radio for CDMA devices. On Gingerbread we have GSM radios working because the locations of the radio have been discovered, we do not know for cdma SGS phones where it is yet. I do not need to mention that without the radio no cellular or gps communications can take place. That is one reason I am focusing on Froyo it is something we can refine to a better operability atm than GB, but the good thing is once we have the radio locations or learn how to force load it all the Froyo code is readily portable to GB, and yes you can run GB with a Froyo kernel, so for the majority the benifits of pushing Froyo now outweigh the potiential delays we may have waiting on a refined GB kernel. You can send your thanks to Samsung in reguards to their FSR/FSR_STL/BML/RFS designed to,improve the consumers interaction with their devices. As FSR drivers do appear to be loading and protecting sections of code from our eyes. Where as on GB we have no BMLs just MTDs (as AOSP should be) and those are assigned their actual addresses by the devs based on where we have found the code or partitions we are looking for.

Edit: BTW, thanks go to kaos, thebirdman, and the other devs ambitious enough to work on and make as much headway as they have on a GB for Fascinate thus far with no help from Samsung.
[Fascinate Android Development] donopj2:
Interesting SirGatez.

Are you just posting in this thread to let those waiting on CM7 know that CM6 is being worked on simultaneously? I'm just curious if this relates to a shift in Kaos' work as well?
[Fascinate Android Development] s44:
Perhaps the CDMA Nexus S will make some of this clear?
[Fascinate Android Development] piperat:
Lol thats pretty good 6 left

Used my fascinating voodoo powers
[Fascinate Android Development] SirGatez:
Yes both are being worked on at the sametime. I am unable to comment on the work of kaos however or the direction he is headed in.

I just want to remind everyone that progress is being made on both sides but we are still facing a few roadblocks before any version is available and working as a daily driver on the Fascinate. Samsung has a history of releasing broken source and using proprietary drivers.
[Fascinate Android Development] lane32x:
ha. That was pretty clever. Wouldn't have ever noticed had you not pointed that out.

Now, back to topic, I cannot wait to play with this once it hits. Should be sa-weet.
[Fascinate Android Development] nader2013:
Kaos isn't going to update this thread everyday just to tell you what is going on. follow him @punkkaos . He usually tweets progress updates.
[Fascinate Android Development] DroiDAddicT14:
Are you dumb??? Follow his twitter tweets
[Fascinate Android Development] hbc.ciccone:
"Tweet tweet b*&%h tweet tweet" ..name that song...
[Fascinate Android Development] Lodingi:
Rocking Robin.
[Fascinate Android Development] hbc.ciccone:
"Let me twitter that" Andy Milinokis
[Fascinate Android Development] ivorycruncher:
Speaking of twitter, check kaos's feed. Looks like he's making great progress. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a release within the next week or so. And with kernel source at his disposal, I'm guessing the next release should be much more functional than the last.

Sent from XDA Premium on my Super Clean Fascinate
[Fascinate Android Development] jkat797:
Great work kaos! Can't wait!
[Fascinate Android Development] Lodingi:
Been following his tweets. Looks like he's very close. Kernel is booting.

Sent from my Verizon Fascinate.
[Fascinate Android Development] mvm2001:
What is his tweeter name??
[Fascinate Android Development] BlackHoleSlam:
^^Punk.kaos
[Fascinate Android Development] mvm2001:
Blackholeslame could u post the link to follow him?? I can't find him by name
[Fascinate Android Development] tlogank:
http://twitter.com/#!/punkkaos
[Fascinate Android Development] evilhunter101:
twitter.com/punkkaos

Edit: Sorry guys, for some reason the other url didn't show until after I posted. Weird...
[Fascinate Android Development] ivorycruncher:
ROTFLMAO!!! :D

Post from the Kaos Gingerbread thread (Kaos's Eris GB rom):

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12461835&postcount=2398
[Fascinate Android Development] BlackHoleSlam:
cool can't wait
[Fascinate Android Development] dmasjz45:
I have a serious addiction checking every half hour for updates to this thread...the kernel source release has triggered an advanced stage and I'm thinking that I may need rehab soon :/
[Fascinate Android Development] StDevious:
you are not alone
[Fascinate Android Development] DroiDAddicT14:
I'm sooooo on the same boat!! Lol
[Fascinate Android Development] fortesquieu:
I think there are many of us.
[Fascinate Android Development] mesmerbelly:
I wonder if it will work on mesmerise
[Fascinate Android Development] Jpac175:
YES and I'm also one of them lol xD
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
Sorry guys, I've been dealing with a cranky 4 year old for the past couple of hours. That sorta thing tends to slow down coding a bit :)

I've got the sensor drivers sorta working, and it will now rotate some of the time :P I know WHY its not working consistently, I just gotta fix it.
[Fascinate Android Development] turtleman2008:
haha take your time family comes first. we can wait!
[Fascinate Android Development] redgryphon:
We appreciate what you do. Take care of your priorities first with your family.
[Fascinate Android Development] jkat797:
Its okay! We appreciate it. We understand. And thanks!
[Fascinate Android Development] jkat797:
Agreed. Same here.
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
As they all said, FAMILY COMES FIRST!! And besides that, I think we would all prefer to wait for you to put your finishing touch on this. Many times to get it quickly you have to trade off quality. We will wait. Much love kaos, thanks brother.
[Fascinate Android Development] fortesquieu:
I volunteer to babysit your 4 year old for free!
[Fascinate Android Development] agsded:
Ok, maybe we can find pk a babysitter and a pediatrician in his area, gratis.... what say....and pediatricians on xda wanna donate time for a good cause....
[Fascinate Android Development] woolster22:
Don't worry about anything dude, you really don't owe us any explanations. It will get updated when you are ready, people just need to relax and be a little more patient. I for one know that I would rather see a highly functional, well executed update rather than something rushed out with details overlooked.

Thank you for all you have done! I can't wait until enough is functional for me to hop on board (and buy you a few coffees).
[Fascinate Android Development] Jpac175:
Family first lol thanks for all the hard work kaos! I just have one question...will the "tv out" work?!
[Fascinate Android Development] Hatespawn:
Kaos, you are definitely one of the most dedicated and humble devs I have ever come across. Don't worry so much about us. Take care of family and if you get around to working on your ROM then great. Whatever happens we will not be disappointed. Besides, we have a whole ton of custom kernels and voodoo sound to play with while we wait.
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
Well, the TV out drivers are working now. I don't have any way to test them beyond that though.
[Fascinate Android Development] Jpac175:
Oh cool can't wait to test it out! Your awesome Kaos
[Fascinate Android Development] gunnermike:
What are you lacking to test it? Do you need a cable?
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
Yeah, I don't have the cable.
[Fascinate Android Development] gunnermike:
I can't afford much, but let me see what I can find on ebay.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
I recommend Amazon - they'll have new and used items through their Amazon Marketplace that you can get shipped faster with a free trial of Amazon Prime. Please don’t mistake this for spam... I make no profit from this recommendation. It's simply a suggestion to get the cable cheaper and sent faster.

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[Fascinate Android Development] bobloblaw1:
Kaos, you haven't taught your 4 year old to code yet? Shame. ;)
[Fascinate Android Development] gunnermike:
Will do. I'll check them out as well.
[Fascinate Android Development] SirGatez:
I have a cable for rca via headphone jack and hdmi via usb. PM if you would like some assistance.
[Fascinate Android Development] DroiDAddicT14:
Ohhhhh snap!!! Can't wait for tv out!!! I have a good feeling it will work :p

When she says no, she really means yes :p
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
Until he can code himself a cookie, he's not interested. :)
[Fascinate Android Development] shauder:
I have a RCA via headphone jack I believe if you need some testing done
[Fascinate Android Development] mikejaret:
kaos, what cable do you need, im sure i can score one on monoprice for cheap, is it microusb to hdmi?
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
Yeah, thats the one that I need for TV Out I believe.
[Fascinate Android Development] fortesquieu:
Is that the last thing that you need to test out? TV-OUT is the last thing that I (we i believe) need to be the daily driver.
[Fascinate Android Development] mikejaret:
well i could care less for tv out, i just want all antennas and sensors to work lol
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
No, not even close. Someone just asked if TV out worked.

I'm still a long way from TV Out being a priority :)
[Fascinate Android Development] mikejaret:
i know this is a tad off topic, but i am fairly new to the fascinate, had every other android phone imaginable (i swap phones constantly) and im curious as the possible reasoning for lack of official 2.2 on this device? I mean this is one of vzdubs flagship android phones and its an entire generation behind (not to mention every other galaxy s has 2.2 officially now, albeit they were way late)....just wondering if anyone had any insight....
[Fascinate Android Development] mikejaret:
jeez i feel like i might have a different phone by the time your near complete.....bionic here i come :/
[Fascinate Android Development] jkat797:
Verizon says it will be coming early april
[Fascinate Android Development] scarfman4:
My first thought - "I'll believe it when I see it."

Sent from my Fascinate

Superclean 2.9.1

EB16 voodoo kernel

EB01 radio

No current theme
[Fascinate Android Development] jkat797:
Agreed, but we dont really need the official one considering we have 2.2 roms
[Fascinate Android Development] dnoyeb:
blah don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out...
[Fascinate Android Development] StDevious:
No this is the cable you need http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ECC1TX1BBEGSTA

I have tried Tv-Out before on the vibrant, it was very underwhelming. Couldn't display games or movies due to DRM restrictions on the screen. Plus it's SD, and the picture looks bad on TV.
[Fascinate Android Development] gunnermike:
theres also the usb to hdmi out. it has 720p out. not sure how functional it is.
[Fascinate Android Development] StDevious:
yes it does have a MHL-enabled USB port, but samsung discontinued the cable.

http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/29/galaxy-froyo-microusb-hdmi/

And I don't think you can find it anywhere.
[Fascinate Android Development] gunnermike:
there all over the place. walmart, staples, best buy, office depot. they run about $50 new. over priced just like all hdmi cables.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Yeah, especially since the Mesmerize source code was released ;-)

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[Fascinate Android Development] sunder74:
Maybe the Bionic would suit you...with a locked bootloader you won't have to wait on any custom kernels or fully custom roms. How about saying a simple thank you for all the cotributions this selfless dev has done. Or better yet say nothing at all.

Im sorry mods this sort of "entitled" behavior is getting out of control. Kaos is one of the most frequently updating developers I know.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
You realize, of course, that some dev out there will have a workaround for that bootloader within days of release?

All the same, this culture of entitlement keeps rearing its ugly head in these forums, but especially on this particular thread. Maybe because CM7 is considered the ultimate in ROMs. Kaos must really be annoyed by the impatience.

Now let's get back on topic :-) Does anyone who flashed v5 have their phones run hot? I wasn't able to flash v5 myself (couldn't even get to boot screen despite having done the triple-wipe), but I do run CM7 on my deactivated Captivate, and the phone runs at least 42°C and up to 52°C (I pull the battery before it can get any hotter) according to Spare Parts.

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[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
Im sorry mods this sort of "entitled" behavior is getting out of control. Kaos is one of the most frequently updating developers I know.

I agree completely. We don't deserve nor are we entitled to anything. Please have respect for devs like kaos.
[Fascinate Android Development] sunder74:
Yeah mine has gotten as high as 51°c on the charger low 40's off with minimal use. And as far a work around for root like the X and D2 maybe but locked bootloader equals no custom kernel.
[Fascinate Android Development] sunder74:
Double post.
[Fascinate Android Development] s44:
No. The X has been "worked around" but the Atrix doesn't even have a recovery. And no Moto bootloader has actually been broken.

The Bionic will never see custom kernels within its useful lifetime.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Too bad for Droid users... What's worse is that HTC is joining this trend with the locked bootloaders. Samsung may be next :-( At least Sony seems to be bucking the trend with its 2011 XPeria line (but conditions apply even in this case).

From what I've read from Android Central, Phandroid, and other sites, recoveries follow roots sometimes months later.

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[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
Huh, thats a new one on me. I run V5 full time on my Fasc, and it never seems overly hot to me...
[Fascinate Android Development] BeeDubs:
Have you asked the other devs for input ? Anybody else have any clues ?

Really appreciate your work. GB would be great if only for the gpu accelerated gui.
[Fascinate Android Development] BeeDubs:
Not true. Why hasnt it been done for the Atrix or Droid 2, X? Bootloader is still an issue. No custom kernels that i know of.
[Fascinate Android Development] BeeDubs:
Kaos,

Have never flashed your stuff but a beer coming your way. Thank you for all the hard work. My friends are devs so i understand the dedication and impact on the community. Makes me proud to be a part of it.
[Fascinate Android Development] BYUsinger84:
Just want to say thank you to the Dev. I really appreciate your time. I have CM7 on my Incredible and I want to share the love with my family who has Fascinates, but it seems a bit more complicated at the moment than the Incredible (which was cake). I'm a little scared to do anything yet, but I am definitely keeping an eye on this thread. :)
[Fascinate Android Development] mrodsunshine:
Punk.kaos, I'd like to add that my phone was running hot on V5 as well, so its not just limited to the other guy.

Sent from my SCH-I500
[Fascinate Android Development] juanv145:
Just checking in on the CM7 build. I haven't flashed any Cyanogen since the good ol' Eris days which is still running the latest version of KaosGingerbread. Keep up the good work Kaos. You made my old Eris run like a champ and i can't wait to see how my Fascinate will do once all the tweaks get worked out!
[Fascinate Android Development] f100cleveland:
Great job on this Kaos!! I've been following your progress on Twitter. I came from the DX to fascinate and originally had CM on my original Droid. I can't wait til we get to tap into the Fascinate with the CM7!!!

I ran the V5 and I can't get the screen to wake up on a call, so I have no way to answer it. Otherwise, the beginnings of your rom ran awesome in its beta stage!
[Fascinate Android Development] BeeDubs:
So PK said the Sprint Nexus S 4G Gingerbread build is helping him? I can't recall if I read that here. If so, great work. I hope we have it up and running soon; can't wait to run GB.

Everyone who had the Incredible and ran CM7 said it was GB that made the phone fly. I can only imagine how the Fascinate will run on it.

Thanks a ton, PK.
[Fascinate Android Development] f100cleveland:
I loaded the Verizon Gb leak on my dx and that made it like a whole new phone. That was fully bloated and no overclock. 1700-1800 quadrant scores stock, so I can't imagine what the fascinate will do with a true Gb Rom.
[Fascinate Android Development] ivorycruncher:
How many times do we have to say this? Quadrant scores are meaningless when compared between different hardware, because the tests favor certain CPUs and whatnot. You should try SmartBench, as it tends to give performance results that are closer to real-world use.

That said, in terms of real-world performance, I too can't wait to see GB running on the Fascinate, as it definitely beats the Droid X hardware. My leaked Froyo rom is okay, but I want a real rom, free from all Samsung garbage code. Oh, and I hadn't seen anything said about using Sprint's Nexus S code to help with Fascinate GB dev work, but given that it's a CDMA radio, it may indeed be helpful. I guess Kaos will know for sure.
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
I've never seen nor heard of a Sprint Nexus S leak. It may or may not help us, but without seeing one, who knows...
[Fascinate Android Development] gunnermike:
yeah, but they look so cool!!!!
[Fascinate Android Development] activesack:
I won't be using this until a more complete build, but I just wanted to say Thank You for your hard work.

I've seen what you've done for the Eris community. You are an amazing talent!
[Fascinate Android Development] cnattiel:
Update

Now SMS is working. According to his Twitter.
[Fascinate Android Development] jimmy3299:
Im stoked about this. I am very grateful for all of your hard work.
[Fascinate Android Development] Relaxasaurus:
Also chiming in just to say thank you. Will wait to install but really appreciate the work you're doing
[Fascinate Android Development] neo4uo:
I was so mad when I read the article about Samsung sitting on Froyo, so that they could put it on their new phone for T-mobile so that it would not take sales away from it. I found this thread and feel a lot better now. I have had droid phones for about a year now and haven't used a stock rom ever, lol. So I am glad that Froyo is going to be done on a custom rom. I am still mad at Samsung for being so freaking greedy. I am still within my 30 days of returning my Fascinate, but I like the phone. I am so glad that people like yourselves have committed personal time to getting a rom going. I am an amateur programmer, but have never attempted anything on a cell phone. After this I am considering looking into it because of the Situation with Samsung.

-Thanks guys \oo/
[Fascinate Android Development] cj1171:
following your twitter and damn, you've done some impressive work just today! congrats!
[Fascinate Android Development] iTz Nicholas72:
I love all if the devs who made this possible!

**** Samsung and their lack of updates!

Once SMS is working I'll use the ROM but SMS is something in can't go without lol.

Sent from my Samsung Fascinate running BH3.0, DL09, 125mv undervolt Voodoo5 using SwiftKey and Tapatalk
[Fascinate Android Development] Dan Ang:
Question about this rom and any (hopefully) upcoming 2.2 or 2.3 roms from the dev community: will any of them be able to have the wifi, bluetooth, airplane, and gps buttons that the notification bar has on the default TW? I just think of all the samsung crap, it's the only useful feature. I don't want to sound impatient, I'm just kind of more curious as to if it is possible at all.

Anyway, this progress is awesome, glad to see it.
[Fascinate Android Development] TheSonicEmerald:
Well, the stock 2.3 gingerbread wont have the notification widget thingy, but the 2.2 rom that kaos is porting is cyangemod based, which does have the notification widget.

Rockin' DJ05, Minimal Icognito, Clocked at 1.3Ghz
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
Yes, this rom has that, and its a whole lot better than the samsung version, as there are many more buttons that you can choose from.
[Fascinate Android Development] GoogleAndroid:
Based on kaos' twitter, he's making great progress. Just wondering, what all is still broken? You said data needs to sync on it's own, but otherwise, it sounds like you're getting close.
[Fascinate Android Development] Hatespawn:
Once 3g, wifi, calls, SMS and gapps are working reliably with decent battery life it will be my daily driver. Things were sounding pretty close on twitter. With my Eris I just rode the wave of releases from that point. Kaos is a god among men at consistent progressive updates. You've got to love him.
[Fascinate Android Development] wilshyre:
Woot! V1! We're on our way! At this pace it wont take long to be nearly fully functional. Great job to kaos and jt1134 on the update and fixes here!

Sent from my OTB 1300mhz black magic fascinate.
[Fascinate Android Development] jvincent08:
Calls, data, SMS.. it *is* nearly fully functional! :D

I'm so ****ing excited.
[Fascinate Android Development] wilshyre:
Haha, so am I

Sent from my OTB 1300mhz black magic fascinate.
[Fascinate Android Development] devlp1213:
now just wifi/bluetooth and will be on board =)
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
They're next on the list. That and the rotation sensor :)
[Fascinate Android Development] iTz Nicholas72:
Get Wi-Fi functional and I'll jump on that like an American on some fast food.

Sent from my Samsung Fascinate running BH3.0, DL09, 125mv undervolt Voodoo5 using SwiftKey and Tapatalk
[Fascinate Android Development] Hatespawn:
Sorry if I somehow missed it somewhere else but are gapps working on this version?
[Fascinate Android Development] jvincent08:
Is the proximity sensor among the sensors that aren't functional?
[Fascinate Android Development] ivorycruncher:
Yeah, I haven't seen or heard of any leaks either, so I was kinda scratching my head on where that idea came from. Oh well, when the code is released, I guess we'll see then.

Btw Kaos, the twitter feed doesn't sound too positive lately. Did you hit a brick wall with that sensor chip issue, or are you getting around it?
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
I'll get around it. I can actually get results using a slightly modified stock driver, its just outputting axises that are flipped (I.E. The X Axis reports as Y and vice versa) so its just a matter of figuring our how to flip them back. They're also kinda jittery, which causes Android to mark them as inaccurate. On the bright side, some of the other hardware is starting to work. I got my first 1/2 way sane GPS result about 10 minutes ago.
[Fascinate Android Development] f100cleveland:
I should've been more clear. I know quadrant scores are inaccurate when comparing different devices, but just saying it was about 1300 stock on froyo and up 300-400 on gb. No hardware was changed and the kernel wasn't changed. Plus the phone got a lot snappier using it normally.

Just used it as an example of how awesome true gb source is.
[Fascinate Android Development] hijackerjack:
Probably because JIT is more optimized for hummingbird in gingerbread. It only was good with snapdragon in the past.

Sent from my Thunderbolt
[Fascinate Android Development] ataranine:
Hell yeah, glad to hear you're making some progress. Those Twitter posts were kinda discouraging. I knew you wouldn't give up though. ;)