yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
That would explain it... Pretty embarrassing lol :p

Ill hurry and download it and see if it work...
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Ok cool cool :)
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Looks like this could take awhile... It is downloading and installing a ton of stuff for the SDK...
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Yeah, I may be asleep by the time you're done :o
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
How much longer will you be up? It is about 12:30 am where i am...

I remember having the SDK on another computer a few months ago when i was trying to get my phone working with Odin. However, it brought up a command prompt that I couldn't write anything in. Is there something I need to do to this one so that it does not do the same thing? Or maybe it was the wrong command prompt?
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Probably wrong command.... 1:30 here :eek:
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Well its about halfway done downloading and installing all of the revisions for the SDK now...
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Well, I'll be up until my mac finishes installing wine.... which is taking forever :p
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Well, it finished up the second half pretty fast and appears to be done. I click on the "SDK Manager" application which opens up a command prompt and the manager. This correct? The command prompt is doing the same thing where I cant type anything in it.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
I'd just open up a separate command prompt and do the commands to get to the sdk
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
And here are my command prompt problems again... I am able to do this in the regular windows command prompt right?
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Correct :)
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Im typing everything in exactly how you described it before but it says that it is not recognized as an internal or external command :(
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
frustrated...

Good and bad news....

Almost two hours later and I figured out how to use adb. Yeah, Im slow... It was a lot easier when I found out that I could shift+right click on the folder that contained adb and it made the directory in the command prompt automatically for me (which was the same as the one I made I think? oh well...).

However, your commands did not work on mine. When I do "adb shell rm /sdcard/update.zip" it says there is no such file or directory. This is weird because I can still select reinstall packages and it will install your blue neon theme again. I then thought that it might not be there at all and tried pushing the other "update.zip" to the card. When I try that, it says "permission denied". I read that the phone should be during debugging mode during this stuff anyway. Mine isn't and I have no way to turn it on.

I also typed "adb shell" and it brought up the "$" sign. I try and type "su" and it says permission denied for that also, which doesn't make sense since my phone is rooted already and I should have superuser access.

Time for bed....
[Android Themes] steindog99:
I can't wait until there is an mdpi version of this I can throw on my optimus S. You are doing some amazing work lately impaler!

How's the battery icon app coming along?
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Thanks man :) it's going good, we're working on total automaton, which is why I'm holding off on making new ones for now :D

Sent from a truly Epic phone!
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Ok, we'll work on it more today then

Sent from a truly Epic phone!
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Did the mount work properly?
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Im unsure if it worked properly. What is supposed to come up?

As for the phone, it is unbricked now, believe it or not. Im not even sure how exactly. It bricked in the first place from installing the theme one to many times, and it was unbricked from deleting all my data once again and reinstalling the theme a few more times :D. I was pretty confused...

Now I am back to my original problem though. I don't have a market.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
And the one I gave you as the original still sin't working? At least you're not bricked ;) :)
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Nope... My new problem is figuring out how to get apps. Without the market, I will have to download a few app apks from somewhere else. But this stupid captivate blocks installation of apps not from the market so I need to find a way to get into the data folder to change the variable. Hard to do that when I don't have a file manager that can access it.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Actually can;t you just go into settings, manage applications and turn on allow outside apps to be installed? :confused:
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
The captivate does not have that option. I need to be able to gain access to the hidden files that a root file manager would allow in order to change a value in a database file. I might be able to use adb but I was never able to get the command prompt in the SDK to respond to anything.
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
I would say that you should first copy the update.zip I gave you onto your sdcard (or simply go into rom manager and have it redownload the package). Then boot into recovery. Then hit reinstall packages to get into clockwork recovery. Then install his flashable .zip by selecting it on your sdcard through cwm (it should NOT be named update.zip)

Edit: headed out to grab some lunch.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Wow, that's a flaw in the phone.....

+1 to what he said :p :D
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
That sounds like a great idea. Ill have to see if I can go back and find those files.

Its actually AT&T just trying to be super controlling with their phones. The only reason I have this phone in the first place is because I didn't want to pay T-mobile's data plan so I just unlocked the captivate.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Yeah, that stinks that AT&T would put such a limit on an open-source phone :(
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
You guys have been such a great help to me so far, and I have learned a lot.

Im going to have to make sure I send a donation your way sometime...:D
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Hey, we do this because we love to :) And if you do donate, I really appreciate it :D But we're still not done! We've got to get your market up and running first ;) Ok, try pushing the market from here into system/app
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Just to add in, make sure you keep everything case sensitive, as in:

adb push Vending.apk /system/app/Vending.apk

Edit: P.S. Did we ever make sure you don't have both a vending.apk and a Vending.apk in your app directory?
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Yup, cmd is temperamental like that :p :D
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
yeah I made sure that there wasn't duplicates

I have made sure to write things exact. Im going to try and push, but every time I have tried previously it says permission denied. Now that I have the phone going I put it into debugging mode earlier when trying to access the /dbdata folder but it was still denied. even after typing adb shell and typing "su", it says su denied.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Really? So it's acting like you don't even have root access?
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Is adb in program files and what version of windows are you using?
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
apparently... I tried adb shell rm /system/app/Vending.apk (this deletes it right?). It said permission denied. Pushing seemed to work though, since it said it moved 1805kb.

My adb is located in a folder on my desktop. I am using Windows 7 64bit.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Also, here's some good adb general usage info. So it let you push, but not anything else?
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Ok, I was going to suggest that you may need to run command prompt "as administrator". Is your market working now though?
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Market pushed, phone restarted, and it still does not show up.
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
That is the only thing it has let me do so far
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Can you go in with root explorer and see if there's even a vending.apk in system/app?
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Where is the flashable zip that you were talking about earlier? I was able to get your CWM update file, but I didn't see the other one.
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
I was refering to the one you would download from the OP.
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
I lost root explorer when I erased all my data. But I should be able to download the apk for it and sideload it to my phone.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Hey, OT, I'm trying to make XDA transparent (you got me thinking :p) But I'm having about as much luck as we did on the MMS apk.... want to take a look with me at the XDA.apk?

Yeah, ok, let me know when you've done that and confirmed that it's there :)
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Certainly, but will have to wait a few hours for me to get home ;)
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Bah, I guess if you insist :p :D
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
I tried sideloading it, but it kept getting stuck on "installing app" while using the Android Central Sideload Wonder Machine.

I also flashed the update.zip of CWM and applied your market zip again, but it is still not there.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Well, I'm not familiar with "sideloading" at all :o I'm not sure if I'll be any help on that
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Its ok, I fixed it... Just turns out that I had a bad apk so I got a different version.

Checked in system/app/, Vending.apk is indeed there, but there could be a possibility that it is the same .apk from before it bricked since I don't think I deleted it and the "adb shell rm" couldn't delete it when permission was denied.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Hmmm, so now the question becomes this: if the apk is indeed there, why is it not showing up for you? :confused: Can you try booting into clockwork and wiping your dalvik and other caches?
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Sure thing, they aren't too hard to find right? Should I just clear all the caches I can see in there?

edit: dalvik cleared
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Yeah, and make sure you do a backup first this time! :)
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
I still have my old backups, it looks like. From right before it bricked.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Ok good good, just making sure you're covered :D
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Still no market :mad:
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
This is just silly..... ok, you're on stock right? Are there any roms you'd like to flash from recovery? Because I think it's time we test something.
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
There are a few roms I wanted to try but I never did because they run the risk of a serious brick. The one I had was minor and luckily I was able to get into recovery. But if it was bricked to the point where I couldn't do that, I fear that I would never be able to recover my phone since it is not recognized by ODIN.

Yes, I am on stock 2.1-update 1
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Look for Com.android.vending-1 in data/app and data/data.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
I mean, so long as you're rooted you should be fine, but seeing as AT&T puts so many limits on this thing stock, I'm not sure if that's part of the problem
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
I think I told him that and he said there wan't one :o
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
There is no vending file in data/app and the only thing in data/data is "com.android.vending.updater"
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
ok, my bad. That's what I get for jumping in in the middle of things :D
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
What if I did get a serious brick and couldn't access recovery? Is there a way to access the phone through adb to fix it?
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Hmmm..........

Hey, you're helping, and that's fine by me :D
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Is that what I am supposed to have then?
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
You should be able to restore a nandroid with adb, but I haven't done it for a while :o
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Ya, if there was one. You'd delete it.

If you were to brick, odin would be your only answer.
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Only issue there is most of the roms for captivate are 2.2, he's running 2.1 (I assume). So......you'd need both your nandroid and a 2.1 kernel in order to get back to where you are now.
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Well, if I can be sure that there is a way in case of a brick, then I would probably be willing to test out a rom like cognition or froyo.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Yup, ODIN is the only surefire way though
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
I don't know what I should do then...
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Do you have insurance incase you need a new phone?
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
No, this phone was purchased off contract, and AT&T wouldn't cover it anyway since I am using Tmobile on it.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Ahh.... well, it's up to you really on what you want to do.... we can try to keep working on it and play it safe, which may be the best solution
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Well, to be realistic, rom flashing is just as safe as everything we've been having you do thus far. In the event of a catastrphic failure of the flash (extremely rare) we could most likely get Odin working eventually.

I would, however, recommend downloading 2 different roms to your phone prior to flashing so that you have another option.

Edit: From what I've seen of Darky's work, I think he'd be a safe bet.
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
I don't know what else we could try though.

do you have experience in captivate roms? I haven't been reading on them that much so I don't know which ones would be the best.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
I agree, I think in the even of worst case we could get ODIN working as well
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
I'm afraid it's limited to request on the vibrant forums for ports and personal investigation of feature lists and bug reports. I don't own a captivate, so that's about all I have. I'm not aware of any cross-platform devs atm.
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
The only thing I never tried in getting ODIN to work was using another USB cable to connect the phone. My friend has the Fascinate so ill see if his cable works since it should be the same basically.

Im looking at the Cognition 3.0 rom by designgears right now and it looks like it might be worth trying out. Even if my phone bricked for good, I could at least be done with the stupid thing.
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Lol, if it's anything like the Vibrant, you couldn't kill it if you tried. Go ahead and grab that one, and Darkys for a backup. I noticed someone on your forums make a nice Odin OneClick package for you guys it this for some crazy reason doesn't work.
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Yup, I already have the Odin one click downloader on my computer and it can't find my phone. So If I had two rom on my phone, i would select "install zip from sd card" and I could install it that way? And in the event that it did not work correctly, just boot into recovery and select the other zip?

Also, what if a rom was installed unsuccessfully and I restored a nandroid backup instead? would that restore the stock rom or just my data?
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
A nandroid would restore everything, including data
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
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So it would go back to stock? Ok, thats good... I think I might just try this then, if I can't find any other way to get the market back. I guess ill have to research some roms.

Now people in the captivate forum say that you should flash back to stock with Odin before every new rom just to eliminate the chance of error on a new flash. I would not be able to do this, so I guess it could present a problem later on.

sorry for all the questions...:p
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Well, again....nandroid's do not include a kernel. If you even think you might want to use that nandroid, hunt down a 2.1 kernel first.

Edit: to answer your other question, I've never "odined before every flash." That's excessive and rediculous. I odin when I feel it's necessary.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Well, if you are currently running stock, and you do a backup, then you will always be able to return to stock, the exact way you were running it :)
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Ok, what about a Rom Manger backup? I made a back up on nandroid and rom manager and it the Rom Mangager was much larger. Why is this?

Ok, Im going to go hunt down two roms then...
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Rom manager backs up all user data and apps, perhaps that's why?
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
To be honest I've never used the Rom Manager backup and I don't really use nandroid anymore since I became comfortable with adb and odin. Plus I hate that nandroid for some idiotic reason doesn't include a kernel.

Edit: After spending quite a bit of time on the Captivate forums now, I have to say I am quite jealous. There's A LOT more development over there than on the Vibrant.
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
I noticed that also... So if I acquire a 2.1 kernel do I just place it on my sd card for future use in case I need it? Or does it need to be in a specific folder?
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
With Rom manager, anywhere on the sd card works :)
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Yup, just on your sdcard
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
awesome thanks guys.... Ill see if I can hunt down a kernel from somewhere.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
No problem, let us know when you get it :)
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Im just finding a bunch of custom kernels. Is there a way to just get it off my phone?
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Uh yeah there should be, but I don't remember how :o
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Hmm... What if I just downloaded a custom one instead? As long as it was the same as my firmware, it should work, right?
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Yes it should :D
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Only finding kernels for 2.2 and 2.2.1 phones... Mine is 2.1
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Ok, now that won't work :(
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
yep, I could always do it without the kernel I guess but if it messed up...
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Honestly, it's really hard to find 2.1 stuff anymore. Realistically, though, nandroid + 2.1 kernel isn't really any better or more reliable than a rom.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Agreed. You should be fine, and a rom shouldn't affect you poorly
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
So you think I should just go ahead without the stock kernel then? would be easier than searching for one...
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
I kinda doubt you'll find one easilly. I tried searching myself and came up empty.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
It'll probably be ok if you went ahead and did it without finding one..... probably :o
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Headed to the house. I'll check back in about 20 min.
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Just about ready. Downloaded Cognition and waiting for perception to finish. Im unsure about perception supporting my firmware, but I assume it doesn't matter since it pretty much makes its own firmware.
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Ready to flash. (those backups took awhile). Files moved to the sd card so that I can install them in CWM. Well lets get started then...

edit: I even found the stock kernel on the cognition wiki. Lucky me. So that file is now on my sd card also.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Ok, fingers crossed for you ;) :D
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
installed and rebooted to a black screen :confused:

But it sounds like this is sort of common and reinstalling the packages again should do the trick.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Bah, ok try that and let us know
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Make sure you give your first boot about 2-3 minutes too.
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Success! And with a working market!

The overall Rom feels a lot smoother than the stock one that was on it and it should have some pretty nice features that came with it.

Ill probably try your market again sometime in the next few days, but making sure that I back it up before :D
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
NICE! Glad you got it, and yeah, backup always and often! :)
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
lol, that's good to hear, and yes, 2.1 doesn't hold a candle to 2.2 let alone optomized 2.2.
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Thanks for all the help you guys gave me! couldn't have done it without you! Im definitely sending some donations your way. Gotta get some money to send, but definitely expect some money in the future. You deserve it! :D

Truthfully, Im almost happy that the market screwed up in the first place. I learned a ton of stuff about my phone and feel a lot more comfortable with it. I wonder how I would like linux...
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Im actually still on 2.1. I wasn't sure if the 2.2 version of cognition would work with my phone.

edit: you were a great help also. gotta start sending some donations...
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that :) I'm glad you feel more comfortable with tweaking your phone, that's what Android's all about! :D
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Yup, it's true. I've learned the most from trying to fix problems or screwing up :D
[Android Themes] yentlequible:
Well its been a long day... Time to go set up my phone again.

Thanks again!
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
No problem, enjoy your new toy! ;)

Edit: OT....looking at the xda app now :D
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
No problem, enjoy!

Cool cool ;) :D
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
No luck so far....Gotta love these programers that try to hide every simple little thing from you...
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
I know... it's got to be there though!
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
I just don't get these variables that seem to OBVIOUSLY be what we're looking for, yet they do nothing.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
I know! I did the same! I even changed the 2pngs in drawable that had to do with the background along with everything else, and nothing :mad:
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
ya, I'm really running out of color codes and pngs here.... and the sad thing is I haven't noticed anything at all change let alone the background.
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
I noticed a slight change.... the text got smaller :o Really, no joke. No background change at all though
[Android Themes] MWBehr:
Thanks for finding me frustrating app #3 by the way :p Why do I get the feeling that the answer is the same for all three apps?
[Android Themes] pa.pn2:
that would be so nice

thank you very much
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
No problem! Give me a few days though
[Android Themes] kenvan19:
Downloaded the green one, love it. Voted for a neon blue theme. =)
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Thanks man, glad you like it :) And check out the blue one, it's up under the green ;) :D
[Android Themes] sketch2k278:
OMG please do MDPI lol

man these look great i really hope you do these in MDPI I love the blue one especially......... very great work
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
You know what, I may end up doing them all MDPI once I get all the colors I want :)
[Android Themes] sketch2k278:
i'll keep my eye on this thread for real lol again very good work
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Thanks man :) So, as of now, MDPI ETA will be about 2 weeks maybe
[Android Themes] akshata_khan:
does recover boot mean the one we do to flash the phone???
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Correct, the recovery image you'd use to flash a rom ;)
[Android Themes] kotton666:
What files did you edit to change the green background to black?
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
XMLs, they are all in there :D

Sent from a truly Epic phone!
[Android Themes] chris6278:
I love the neon blue can u please update it to version 2.2.11? Id really appreciate it
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Is there a version 2.2.11 already?!?!? Umm, ok, is it for all phones or just the nexus s?
[Android Themes] :
Don't sleep much in the Inferno!!lol! You sir are a machine! Great work as always! Talk to ya!
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Thanks man :) I'll try to get this to MDPI soon for some hero love :p :D
[Android Themes] kotton666:
I was kinda hoping for a little more specific answer ;)
[Android Themes] jakubek1994:
WOW!, great work man! I wait for black ones!
[Android Themes] chris6278:
2.2.11 apk is in the nexus s forums but i believe its comin to all phones
[Android Themes] theimpaler747:
Because it probably will be. Lol :D