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[Vibrant General] Rred:
McBeast, I don't know the laws but congratulate you on doing what someone HAD to do. You might also want to discuss with your attorney bringing in Broadcom (who supposedly make the GPS chip) and AT&T (the Captivate phone) into the suit.

I had a Captivate, gave up and sent it back because the GPS was useless. There are plenty of threads here and on other forums discussing Captivate issues. Basically:

AT&T released two "fixes" for the GPS, in their own words. Neither actually fixed them, including their last OTA update. The updates, like the original firmware, pointed the assisted-GPS code to a disconnected AGPS internet server. That's like selling a man a "horse and carriage" and neglecting to mention, the horse is dead. The carriage just won't work that way.

Neither Samsung nor AT&T would acknowledge any problems in the GPS--except to say their fixes fixed it, which they didn't. Broadcom did not respond to email at all.

A side-by-side comparison of my Captivate (in STANDALONE mode, without any outside assistance, so we're measuring GPS by itself) and an obsolete old Earthmate USB GPS showed s/n readings of 30-35db for the Captivate, 45-50db for the Earthmate (which is less sensitive than today's SirfStarIII or -IV chips) under an open sky, confirming with objective numbers that the Captivate simply cannot receive GPS signals, when less-than-commodity-grade equipment receives them clearly.

A second comparison against a Garmin Nuvi in my car, showed the Captivate could not get a fix when placed on the front seat or center console, while the Nuvi next to it was navigating without any trouble. The Captivate could sometimes get a fix--but only if it was placed under the front windshield. (Which is not metal-filmed, conventional glass.)

I didn't want to exchange my brand new phone for some rebuilt or refurb of unknown heritage that might not work any better. I sent it back, goodbye. All three vendors stonewalling together (Broadcom, Samsung, AT&T) implies to me that all three are aware of what the problem is, and that it can't be fixed without totally replacing the hardware. If that's true--continuing to sell them and deny the problem exists is fraud, isn't it? Issuing software fixes that don't fix the problem would be additional specific frauds, wouldn't they?

I say, "sic 'em". If Samsung won't talk honestly to the customers, let 'em talk to the judge. They've had well over six months to come clean, time to get out the big stick.
[Vibrant General] leetpriest:
That doesn't go without saying, Micbeast, that you should approach this issue with a cool head. I deal with lawyers all day long, and blowing up in court, cursing, making wild accusations or untrue remarks will make you look bad and the case as a whole look bad. That gets us nowhere, and may even hurt us in the future. Can you image what would happen if Samsung won a class action suit over selling malfunctioning devices? They would continue to do it legally, and other manufacturers might even follow suit.

Everything you post publicly from now until the end of your suit will be under scrutiny in the courthouse. Lawyers at Samsung and T-mob, AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, and anyone else you include the suit will use your posts against you in every way possible to discredit your case.

My suggestion is this, and your lawyer may ask you to do the same, tread carefully in public when you make a statement, be it on these boards, or in a newspaper, to a reported, to a tech blog. If you've written something that you don't want read back to you in front of a judge during the hearing, you may want to remove it, and ask anyone that's quoted you to do the same.

If there's a t-mob plant or a samsung plant stalking you on the forums (doubtful), let them talk, and then state the facts. The facts are on your side, keep that in mind.

You have people here counting on you to follow this through. Please don't let us down.
[Vibrant General] HotShotAzn:
It is this very fact that makes me question the legitimacy of this whole situation. Any respectable lawyer would have advised MicBeast to let people know of the lawsuit, then shut the heck up. Everything thing he says after that point is ammo for Samsung/Tmobile.

MicBeast - look at yourself. Look at your sig. Are you serious? Do you want to be taken seriously? Claiming you have the will of God and the people on your side? You are crossing into territories that will either 1) get your case dismissed because people will think you are a raving lunatic or 2) have people stop backing you because, well, you are a raving lunatic.

You claim that you are going to be sending a message that it's "time for a change". Look at all of the useless CAL against carriers/manufacturers right now. Has anything changed? Has Apple issued a recall over the many faults of the iPhone 4? Did Samsung do anything about the Behold?

Dude, your real name/address is going to be on the lawsuit. As many people on here who say "thanks buddy!", there are just as many people who think you are a delusional psycho...and wait, now they have your name/address.
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
Pretty sure this is the first guy who is in support of the lawsuit who has made any damn sense. THANK YOU.

I have no qualms with Michael throwing a lawsuit around. But the WILD accusations from the guy are ridiculous. If this has perked up ANY ears at Samsung's legal dept, rest assured they are keeping a record of all of this. Go back and read Michael's posts in this thread and tell me Samsung will not use these transcripts to discredit him -- and they will win. Mic- if you are serious about this, you gather your sources, let people know where to sign up if they so choose, and you shut your friggin mouth because brother you look less stable than a three-legged chair on a gravel hill.

As far as FroYo goes, pretty sure you will be laughed at by a judge. Regarding GPS, you may have something to go on. The problem is that MOST people's GPS does work, even if it takes 10 min to lock. Samsung will just defend itself by saying there is no guarantee your GPS will work as good as a TomTom. There is a very small minority of people who have 100% non-working GPS, who have also gone through warranty exchange and received one or several replacements that also have 100% non-working GPS.

My $0.02 anyway. Samsung has ****ty customer service regardless of any of this, and if this being successful helps to change that then I am of course supportive of that cause. I just wish Mic's lawyer would tell him to stop accusing XDA members of being spies for the Russians or whatever.
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
Damnit! You beat me to it :D
[Vibrant General] uranidiot:
Can you include the epic, facinate, and captivate in your lawsuit !
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
I received an email back from the attorney that mic claims to be representing him.

Ben the attorney DENIES that he or his firm is pursuing this case and he went on to say that he doesn't know of any firm pursuing this matter.

Please don't believe me though email the attorney yourself:

brichman@edelson.com

This charade by Mic has gone on long enough
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
In fact call them if you want:

312.589.6370 (firm) |

Ben will even reply to your email with his DIRECT number but I don't want to post that without his permission.

Its time this game of mic's ends.
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
I have emailed and am looking forward to a reply. Can you post his response and remove any personally identifiable information, unless Ben has advised that it is ok to publish his info?
[Vibrant General] Br1cK'd:
Popping some fresh popcorn, got cold beer and room on the couch while we wait for Mic's reply to this latest development.

Ginger Clone's of the World Unite! Via the XDA App
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
Seriously, if Jones' claim is legit.

HOLY CRAP

:eek::eek::eek:
[Vibrant General] HotShotAzn:
Good detective work Jones. I was too lazy to take the initiative, thanks!

Mic will come on and say its not the act of the CAL, but the unity that the idea of the CAL has brought on.

TJ: I just caught the fact that we're from the same city :)
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
That's very cool man! dckloos, a senior member on XDA is from Cd'A as well. I found him through Spokane Craigslist offering to root people and get custom ROMs and such. He mentioned the FFC and I tried to see about getting him to do it, so when I buy mine, I might have him do it if I am too chicken to bust open my phone's guts.

Regardless, we three should use our money from this CAL to buy some lunch at Zip's in 10 years when it's all done. :D
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
Because of this, I made this terrible wallpaper:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10679729#post10679729
[Vibrant General] akshay_bombay:
I think Samsung is doing the same with Sprint Transform and Moment.
[Vibrant General] J Shed:
I think this thread does nothing but show how consumers have devolved into a bunch of whiney, self entitled asshats.
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
ASSHATS FTW!!!!!!!

:cool:
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
I really don't want to post his email without his consent. He is a lawyer afterall.

I did email him back asking if it was ok to post his reply but I thus far havent heard back.
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
Fair enough, I have done the same and am awaiting response. I hope he is ok with it being published.
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
For what it is worth I will gladly forward the email that I received from Ben to a moderator to show that it is 100% legit.

I suppose I could send it to anyone if they PM me but I figured a mod is neutral in the matter to be fair to Ben.

The email contains his DIRECT NUMBER so that mod could very easily verify what I received from Ben.

All I did was send an email I bet you anything if someone simply called the firm they could find out what I did.

I am no one special and I didnt have to move mountains to verify that Mic is full of BS.

BTW I am not an employee of T Mobile, Samsung, Sprint, Verizon, Motorola, AT&T, Blackberry, Apple, Microsoft or any other company that Mic thinks is out to get him.

Actually some of my clients use Samsung TV's so MAYBE I AM IN ON IT!

:D
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
How this thread got 450+ replies without doing what you have done is well beyond me. I guess the bigger the lie the easier it is to believe? Well done, Jones.

You'll get your bonus check from Samsung as soon I clear it with our handlers! ;)
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
Thank You

I agree with you 100% and I am taking every possible step to heed to that and all similar advice.

I am already doing that as we speak (Deleting content form my posts etc.)

I will not let you down. Thank you for the Support

God knows I need people like you to remind me to stay focused

and keep a level head.

And I am humbly obliging to each request
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
The lesson here is if you are going to make up wild and elaborate claims you should MAKE UP a PRETEND lawyer instead of using a real one who is so easily reached!!

That would be funny if Ben sued Mic for lying. I suppose if one can sue over an update than another can sue over lies on an internet forum.
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
Please recommend a Lexus.

I received a BMW bonus last year so would like a Lexus this year.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
If anything this seems like a threat to me
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
I am so excited to see how Mic will twist being busted.

I am popping a fresh bag of popcorn.
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
Mic maybe you should report that threat to your attorney Ben.......oh wait he isnt your attorney.

BTW Mic based on my 13 years in law enforcement I would say his comment doesn't even COME CLOSE to rising to the level of a threat.

Nice try son BUT YOU FAILED.

No offense Mic but time to move on to some other fantasy thing to rally around.

Maybe you can sue Starbucks. I love Starbucks but others say the coffee is burned.

Maybe you can start a class action lawsuit with Ben.......Oh wait he isnt your attorney.
[Vibrant General] erickrios:
I think that ultimately the best thing that could come out of this is awareness, Samsung has struck out with updates before and screwing up again is not in their best interest.

If a local news station picks this up it might make it to the big boys (cnn, cbs, fox, etc.) and it might hurt the future sales of the vibrant 4g or other device made by samsung.

But as far as Samsung is concerned, they are already past the original vibrant and moving on to bigger and (possibly) better things, as most profitable businesses always do. It is in their model to sell and move on, sell and move on.

If an update is not in the contract, don't expect it (verbal promises don't count). If there is tangible proof of mass malfunction then they will fix it.

As for me, I love my vibrant, it's the best phone I have ever owned, I feel bad for those that have received defective ones, but I believe that I'm in the majority that has gotten what was promised, a smartphone that can handle most of everyday's tasks and can be updated when the update comes or via third party developers.

Good luck.
[Vibrant General] richiehd:
So MicBeast lied, ****. Back to square one. I'm dumping this POS after I see what's coming at MWC. If nothing, then I guess I'll stick it out. CM7 has to come soon, right? LoL
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
I am not going to feed into your childish antics

Libel is illegal

and all you have done is to read my posts selectively,

and misconstrue everything I've said

All while you rally as many close minded people as you can into believing

I am a psycho

You have done nothing but try to twist my words, and use them against me

You say I am being paranoid about spies or T-Mo thugs

And the only purpose for you even being on this thread is to attack my character, and discredit me

You give me absolutely NO CHOICE; but to think

you are looking out for the best interest of T-Mobile, and Samsung

Actions speak louder than words

and all you have done is try to rally everyone

you can find that will listen against me

I don't know what the problem you have with me is

I don't know what you have against me

In fact I think the real problem is you

You are using this thread as an opportunity to get attention

Maybe to boost your self esteem

Maybe it makes you feel good trying to make me look bad

Either way

You need a hug

I Love You TJ either way

Thank you for the support
[Vibrant General] richiehd:
MicBeast, they e-mailed the lawyer and he said he doesn't even know who you are.
[Vibrant General] dietdrpeper:
/debate
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
http://xdaforums.com/search.php?searchid=56440744

When you call someone paranoid, or attack someones character

please make sure that you didn't join in JAN 2011

AND the ONLY 8 posts you have ever made on this forum

have been solely to attack my character

http://xdaforums.com/search.php?searchid=56440744

What did you mean about the comment you made

regarding my address, cause to me that sounds like a threat

What did you mean by it

What you were going to come pay me a visit?

Well what?

You call me a psycho, and yet you have focused ALL of your attention

on ATTACKING ME

I have posted a direct link to ALL of his posts on this forum

ALL of them on this thread...

http://xdaforums.com/search.php?searchid=56440744
[Vibrant General] NoDataFound:
Fail.

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[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
In fairness to Mic he acknowledged some sort of communication with him but denied any lawsuit.
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
MIIIIIIIIIIC

Seriously.... SMH

Just don't respond. When you attempt to defend yourself you just look craaaaaazy AHHHHHH. Its like knowing you are about to see a car accident. I CAN'T LOOK AWAY.

Even your lawyer was like "b*tch, I'm out!!"

Or if you must respond, stick to the canned wording provided by your attorney, whoever that may actually be...
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
uuuuuuuh Mic at some point something prompts people to join a forum.

I joined after hearing back from the attorney DENYING he is representing you in a lawsuit!

Your logic is driven by extreme paranoia.

Ooooor maybe my Samsung masters are paying me to say this?
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
Its funny, I was helping some other guy in the Q&A forum, regarding a tethering question. He had been an XDA member since 2008, and had a post count of

2

. I was like WHOA thats a long time listener, first time caller situation!
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
Mic,

Are you ok seriously dude?

I never made a comment about you or your address.

Seriously please you really need to stop this charade of yours is growing old.

Next time make up a name of an attorney that no one can contact.

Maybe Seymour Butts?

That would be a cool attorney name.

OR go here to the psych name generator:

http://www.usanetwork.com/series/psych/games/nicknamegenerator/
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
I feel bad for Ben in all of this because now Mic is probably going to go and go off on Ben. Of course Ben did nothing wrong but Mic will probably think that Ben is now a paid mole or spy from planet Xenon.
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
I contacted an attorney and she is going to bring about a class action suit against Mic for wasting all of our time.

Her name is Sallie Van Halfenhalf.

She is big gun.
[Vibrant General] Jay2487:
I have been on quite a few forums and have never encountered the amount of tween-like D*cks as I have here at XDA. This guy is investing his time and effort to address an issue most Vibrant users have had. He isn't asking you for money, he isn't affecting you in any way, he just posted some info that you as a free person can choose to read or choose to ignore. It really shows a level of true ignorance when people find the need to insult someones character simply because that person is sharing his experiences, feelings and thoughts on a subject that obviously is on many people's minds. Yet, this made some of you angry actually. Why? Why does one post among hundreds draw you out and make you want to express your anger? It seems as if many of the patrons on this forum are here only to search around for something to fight, flame, complain, whine about.
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
hmmmmm I dont know uuuuh hmmmmm lets seee....hmmmmm

maybe because he lied about the attorney he claims is representing him?

So its ok to lie and deceive?

oh I get it we shouldn't hurt his feelings.
[Vibrant General] richiehd:
My question is, if he did in fact lie, what is he doing with all of the e-mails people sent him about their device problems? Why would he request people to send him problems with a cell phone? LOL
[Vibrant General] elgo:
Jay, I agree with you - in fact the Vibrant forum is worse than the Captivate forum I used to hang out in.

However, this guy (Micbeast) apparently has lied about filing a class action suit, and accuses everybody of slandering him... so while some of the naysayers are immature and childish, Micbeast is able to match them one for one.

He also has a messiah complex.

I mean, just look at his new signature that takes up 3/4 of his posts. If I were as paranoid as Micbeast, I would think that Samsung and TMobile hired him to act crazy and discredit Vibrant owners.

That said, I wish someone saner would actually file a real class action suit, as opposed to the imaginary one we've been hearing about in this thread... Samsung needs to be held accountable for their (lack of) action.
[Vibrant General] ipeench:
Welcome to the Vibrant board on XDA.... its the only board like this.
[Vibrant General] richiehd:
What gets me is he released a song about the lawsuit, doesn't that seem like self promotion at the expense of all of us and our legitimate issues with the Vibrant? Any competent lawyer would have (like mentioned previously somewhere in this thread), told him to stop while he was ahead.

Something is fishy, and at this point- I don't believe him. Like the poster above, I wish someone would REALLY file a class action because what Samsung is doing isn't right.
[Vibrant General] NoDataFound:
http://yfrog.com/dyhd60j

http://www.google.com/m?hl=en&gl=us...-us&source=android-launcher-search&q=Micbeast
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
DING DING DING. If some one thinks it is childish and ignorant (???) to call Mic out on his BS, then I am a know-nothing baby.

Please, someone with a legit attorney, and a list of legit problems, and someone who is not off their rocker sue Samsung or Tmo or whoever they believe is truly at fault based on the evidence they have.
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
It is bizarre that so many forums will allow people to post outright lies yet when you confront them the forum mods suspend or ban you.
[Vibrant General] richiehd:
Don't worry though, Mic. I ain't madacha. Got nuttin but love for ya, do your thing boy.

:)

Next time, actually file the lawsuit before you announce you've filed it. If all you did was talk to them, say that. We'd rather hear the truth than a fabrication.
[Vibrant General] eunkipark92:
So let me guess. U started all this bullsht to get peoples attention for your website no?

Cause u posted a song with a link to your website,no?

Am I wrong? Explanation would be nice
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
Are you crazy!? Have you heard that song!!!! It SELLS itself. My phoooooooone my phoooooone. That's my new bedroom music. Usher, GTFO.:p
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
Mic,

Please send me a link so I can download your music.

I will gladly pay 99 cents if it helps you out.
[Vibrant General] elgo:
He never filed a lawsuit as he claims in his first post. He was lying and just trying to get people to listen to his awful music.

Can someone else file a class action suit please?
[Vibrant General] Jay2487:
The lawyer he referenced would definitely be the guy, it's not a small law firm, and the guy is a consumer side lawyer. Whether he has actually talked to him or not is yet to be determined. Still, what's the point in devoting so much energy into bashing the guy? Some people on here act like this guy possibly exaggerating his actions is the exact same as pis*ing on their leg at a urinal, or sleeping with their girlfriend.
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
Mic,

When you get a moment I dont expect you to apologize because I am sure you wont.

I did want to add though that I think you should at least thank me because now it appears that no one will want to kill now that no lawsuit has been started.
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
Mic has (allegedly at this point) completely lied -- entirely fabricated -- this entire lawsuit nonsense. Look at the press it has got him. Major tech blogs have talked to him. This is all over the blogosphere. As an XDA member, he represents us all. You bet your ass that when our reputation is on the line I'm going to call a spade a spade.
[Vibrant General] TJBunch1228:
If it turns out, the guy really is just a looney tune and wanted attention - if he admits to it - I will leave him alone.

Now if it turns out he was BSing every SGS owner for commercial purposes, I will make it my personal goal to see that a Moderator has his IP Address banned from XDA.
[Vibrant General] Agent Jones:
Can I get a link so I can check out his rapping prowess?
[Vibrant General] Jay2487:
Look back at the beginning of this thread and you can easily see that even when people thought he had paid his own money and actually hired a lawyer they called him every name in the book. Now it's because he's faking? Next, it'll be because he wasn't holding his mouth right. I'm not trying to question anyones motives, just trying to point out how it seems people just want to be di*ks for the sake of it. This isn't the first thread on this forum I've noticed this, but I do agree it seems to happen more on Vibrant forums. Must be a lack of 2.1 and gps correlates with bad attitudes. Maybe the gps doesn't work because of a massive anger inducing microwave leak Samsung is keeping secret.