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[G2 and Desire Z General] steve_ding:
I used Visionary on my G2 about a month or so ago, and when I tried to permroot it, it got stuck in booting up. I spent a week researching for a solution to save my phone and pretty much reached the conclusion that it's not fixable at the moment, at least not by me using the knowledge I can learn from this site. Since then I have bought another G2, easily rooted using rage/gfree and am happily running CM6.1. Still have the old bricked G2 around. From the sound of it, you might know something that I don't. Any idea how to proceed with a G2 with stock recovery, S-ON, fastboot showing phone offline and get stuck on the HTC logo during bootup? Here's the thread I was posting to:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=879895&page=5

TIA.

Steve
[G2 and Desire Z General] JuiceHD2:
Okay I perm rooted with visionary, if I do it over the visionary root with gfree will the visionary version go away. And can anybody redirect me to a page with the guide for the gfree method.
[G2 and Desire Z General] davidhoude:
I've owned two android phones, the G1 as soon as it launched, and the G2 as soon as it launched.

I love the stock android, but don't see what all the fuss over Sense UI being called bloat is. I've used many phones with Sense, and it seems to have some real nice features and none of the phones I've used were sluggish at all. My wife has a Cliq w/ motoblur. I can honestly say that this phone runs significantly slower then vanilla phones with similar specs, so I get that the custom UI's do cause problems.

I'd be open to installing a rom with SenseUI on my G2.
[G2 and Desire Z General] hogg2500:
Man I want the offical update Gingerbread bad... lol

Has anyone heard anything? I've tried asking HTC & T-Mobile on their Twitter & Facebook pages about Gingerbread on the G2 but nothing yet. Hey maybe they will answer if more and more people keep asking them about it.

Way off topic but I played with the Nexus S at Best Buy and I can't stand the cheap feel of the Samsung phone. I wish HTC would of made it. I still want a Nexus One...
[G2 and Desire Z General] dhkr123:
Trivial. You just shove the stock ROM zipfile onto your sdcard PC10something.zip or something along those lines, and power on with the volume down button pressed. Presto -- fixed to stock.
[G2 and Desire Z General] realjones:
Except when the OTA update has been applied then it will fail as the current signed rom versions are preOTA. The system will not allow you to overwrite with an older version.

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z General] steve_ding:
What realjones said... It would indeed be trivial if you never applied OTA but OTA has been out for a while and I venture to say very few of us had the insight *not* to apply OTA. So without a working adb or fastboot, the best option is to wait for a 1.22 or above PC10IMG.zip. I tried hex-editing version info and build one myself but couldn't get it to work. Would be great to have a working one...
[G2 and Desire Z General] Finland_2_Cupertino:
Per a reputable source we will see ginger bread this month. As well as the nexus one users.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Chris41336:
What reputable source might that be? Pardon my skepticism, but as im sure you know, things like this can be misleading.
[G2 and Desire Z General] quierotacobell:
My reputable source said HTC is gonna charge tmo for the update.
[G2 and Desire Z General] raviluke:
I have a feeling it will be out in summer.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Finland_2_Cupertino:
Someone that works for HTC w/ a g2 and a perfect build of the ginger bread man on it. its nice :) and green
[G2 and Desire Z General] quierotacobell:
Pics or it never happened lol.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Finland_2_Cupertino:
i wish i had proof. ill try and get a pic when he uses the bathroom. hahaha who doesnt take their phone to bathroom with them?
[G2 and Desire Z General] DarkPyroGuy 09:
I want a Nexus One just for a back up, I have had my G2 for a week and love it to death, I am just trying to find the correct way to root it at this point, I have the 1.72 update. Not asking for help from anyone, but if anyone had the link to the page I would be up to giving them thanks. Is the way on the wiki page work for the G2?
[G2 and Desire Z General] KCRic:
Yes, just follow the instructions on the G2 wiki. It's the proper root method - gfree.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mayurolla:
I sure hope you guys are right.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xxMAGIC MANNxx:
So we should be getting the Gingerbread update in Feb.?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Nospin:
Don't let people with "sources" play this game. Nobody knows when we will get it, but we can guess the G2 will be one of the first.
[G2 and Desire Z General] thegreenmachine:
Like the previous person said, it'll be one of the "first" phones to get Gingerbread. I mean isn't the G2 a straight google phone, just like the G1? Granted it's not Google's pride and joy but it is none the less a Google phone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Finland_2_Cupertino:
suppose to be this month (jan) but this sms bug kinda took priority and might delay it a week or two. G2 will get it shortly after N1 does if that helps anyone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xxMAGIC MANNxx:
Soo febuary?? Haha
[G2 and Desire Z General] Finland_2_Cupertino:
lol well we still got a week. cross ur fingers!
[G2 and Desire Z General] xxMAGIC MANNxx:
Wait, I'm soo lost! Haha. so when should we be getting it?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Finland_2_Cupertino:
Its suppose to be this month. Maybe they will put the sms bug fix in ging
[G2 and Desire Z General] xxMAGIC MANNxx:
Oh okay, so we will be one of the first 2.2 phones getting gingerbread?
[G2 and Desire Z General] OriginalGabriel:
Some things were broken with the RCs, as to be expected, but CM6 is solid now. CM7 is pretty damn solid as well but, I only toy with it on the weekends.
[G2 and Desire Z General] OriginalGabriel:
Build 45? CM7 just hit a nightly of build 12 this evening.
[G2 and Desire Z General] luis86dr:
Old post... now I'm running nightly 12. :)

[G2/HTC Vision]
[G2 and Desire Z General] Finland_2_Cupertino:
Yes we will!
[G2 and Desire Z General] NoFatePPC:
just called HTC here in Benelux... i told if there was going to be an update for our devices?

She responded : Update , what update ... no , there is nothing planned at the moment...

But again , it was just a callcenter
[G2 and Desire Z General] xxMAGIC MANNxx:
Lame! I hope we get it within the next two months!

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] KoolKidsKlub:
I seriously don't understand why you guys won't just root the phone already. Us rooted users have had 2.3 for awhile now. Infact, we have 2.3.2 the night after it was released on the Nexus S and pretty stable(for me at least.) Cyanogen mod and root is better than anything that T-Mobile could EVER put out for the G2. Trust me, you don't know the full potential of the phone until you have root. The manufacturers and carriers lock down the phone so much that you might as well call it THEIR phone and your just borrowing it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] matthawk60:
Cm7 on the g2 is amazing. The new theme engine is awesome.
[G2 and Desire Z General] NoFatePPC:
this i received from HTC a moment a go ....

I understand how exciting it is to have the latest updates for your device. At this point in time, nothing has been announced regarding Android 2.3 for HTC devices like your Desire Z, including a release schedule. When updates are announced, you can find the information at www.htc.com/us and www.twitter.com/htc. I'd love to be able to confirm something for you, but there's just not any information yet.

Well, gonna wait a few weeks , see ifs really true about the release in this month , therwise i am going to root too :)

Too bad i am on 1.74 , but its doable if i read the other threads...
[G2 and Desire Z General] DisturbedAle:
Thanks for posting.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mayurolla:
I called up T-Mobile yesterday and was told nearly the same thing. Guy told me that there is nothing that they know about yet.
[G2 and Desire Z General] v hubris v:
HTC tech reps do not have any information on updates they don't keep them updated with the updates as soon as it drops then the reps know you would have better luck getting info out of t-moblie
[G2 and Desire Z General] xxMAGIC MANNxx:
I think it will be at least june when we get it! :(

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] luis86dr:
By the time they release it we will have a stable CM build...

[G2/HTC Vision]
[G2 and Desire Z General] FinHD:
So this seems that nobody has any real information about the update? People just make up that "next week, next month crap"? I would like to see one credible source even say that they(HTC) are even considering gingerbread for the Z/G2. I won't be holding my breath(but I will be happy to be proven wrong).

And I'd root my Z in a heartbeat.... IF I wouldn't be so crappy with droid phones. I need a "few clicks and done" method for it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
and nightly builds of CM 8
[G2 and Desire Z General] o1ooo111:
I wqas on the phone with T-Mobile support yesterday, and they said that T-Moibile is aware of Gingerbread, but they have no information about when it will be pushed out.

Sounds like its going to be a while.

01000111
[G2 and Desire Z General] Stargazer418:
I installed GingerVillain 1.4 on mine and it's awesome! Even though it's a beta, it works just as well as the full release most of the time.
[G2 and Desire Z General] NoFatePPC:
where is that reputable source? can you ask again? month is already finished....
[G2 and Desire Z General] xxMAGIC MANNxx:
I would like to know as well

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
CyanogenMod 7 is already stable. Get off your little high horse, root your phone, and enjoy instant updates from some of the best, most committed developers that you will ever find.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ND2D2:
Why to wait for T-Mobile or HTC? CM pleases the community with great roms. I'm running CM7 RC18 and cannot complain a bit.

Just root and enjoy your phone's potentials. BTW, I'm a Android newbie.

PS. Make sure you donate to the CM team so they can continue to do a great job.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running CM7 RC18
[G2 and Desire Z General] immune15:
I'm still to afraid to take the root jump. I have a feeling I will brick my G2 so I will sadly wait months for the official 2.3 update.
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
It's extremely difficult to permanently brick your phone in the rooting process (I don't even know how it would happen). The instructions on the wiki are so simple and straightforward that a middle schooler could follow them with ease.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xxMAGIC MANNxx:
I was once rooted then unrooted cause I didn't like any roms..I did try virtuous, was satisfied for about a week then got tired of it. Now that gingerbread roms are out it looks like I'm gonna have to root again, oh well! :)

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
How could you not like ANY custom ROMs? You do realize that most of them are just stock ROMs with improvements and extra features, right?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Spastic909:
No company will tell you when a new product or update is coming. Just wait...and quit asking such dumb questions
[G2 and Desire Z General] xxMAGIC MANNxx:
Yeah, but I just wasn't feelin any of em. Yeah they were great but I got tired of them fast.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
So what made you "not get tired of" the plain-jane stock ROM?
[G2 and Desire Z General] xxMAGIC MANNxx:
Idk, I like the original feel to it :) lol

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] DJAeroX26:
lol I'm the same way
[G2 and Desire Z General] DJAeroX26:
No such thing as a dumb question...flamer (double meaning)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Sleepracer:
You are right to a certain degree. I co-founded wwwnerdberrynet and wwwandroidnerdsnet. I know with blackberry OS's T-Mobile has set up OS beta testing for bb's in the blackberry beta zone. Maybe they will do something similar for Android. I doubt it though.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
There are stock rooted roms ya know
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
Yeah, losing your root just to go back to stock seems ridiculous. If anything, keep root just for the ability to do a NAND backup.
[G2 and Desire Z General] wujxin:
I think CM7 is good enough now.
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidfeen809:
Now that I think about it I won't update to gingerbread! Reason for: its prettey much the same as froyo nothing overwhelming. Now I will love the ice cream sandwich update LOL that's the one I'm waiting for homies
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
Some people just make me /facepalm.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xxMAGIC MANNxx:
Haha EPIC!

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] HotShotAzn:
Or want to start drinking at 9:00AM ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidfeen809:
Like I or anybody in here gives a **** about who or what makes you facepalm, it is people like you who need to mind their business lol what do you care if I do the update or not? I gave my opinion about the update period yu shut up about it is non of your business :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
You made your business public, so I think I can freely comment on it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidfeen809:
Its a matter of opinion I don't want to do the update, you do great, you don't have to make silly comments like the one you did, like you care so much if I do it or not it isn't your business
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
I'm sorry that when I see other people say/do foolish things I feel the need to try to help them out or just /facepalm when they are absolutely stuck in their ass-backwards ways.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Balls_Mcafee:
@HotShotAzn

Who needs a reason for that?
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidfeen809:
It isn't your problem if I want to stay with an older version of android mind your own business the only fool here is you that gets frustrated with other peoples opinion/decision you fool LOLOL why didn't you comment on the other ones who said they'll be keeping froyo? Exactly....
[G2 and Desire Z General] xxMAGIC MANNxx:
+100

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] dictionary:
I don't care either way, but gingerbread has many under the hood.improvements for developers. Should make applications and games much better. All up to you in the end though obviously. Hope you enjoy whatever you stick with. :-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
Because I didn't sit here and read through this whole topic. Also, please learn what the hell a period is and how to use one.

EDIT: And if you need me to speak in a language that you can understand, I think I was able to translate your above post: "HERP DERP I openly answered a question on a forum, and now I'm getting my panties in a bunch when another user disagrees with my opinion HERP DERP."
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
Don't feed the troll.

Sent from my G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] xxMAGIC MANNxx:
Hungry troll, is hungry.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidfeen809:
Thanks and your right is my loss if I don't upgrade, people got to worry about themselves instead of others, and I know about the gaming improvement but ice cream is almost here so it should hopefully have much more than gingerbread. Btw anyone know if gingerbread will boost quadrant scores up like froyo?
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidfeen809:
Again I decide when to use whatever punctuation I feel like using and whenever I feel like it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ldominguez1986:
Damn dude, way to degrade people. They can't afford smart phones? That is a terrible assumption on your part. Give some people credit
[G2 and Desire Z General] lucasleiva:
When did this **** turn into youtube! Why are there so many flamers? This is supposed to be a helpful don't put people down. And if someone says some **** about my spelling or grammer get off your high horse no one here's a college professor so who gives a crap!
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
Correct punctuation and spelling makes reading posts much easier. It's also ironic that you should mention YouTube since the comments there have some of the most pathetic grammar on the internet.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Nospin:
Stop fighting children. We're all android brothers here.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xxMAGIC MANNxx:
Dude, shut the **** up. Your keeping everything going. Just shut the **** up.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
If you ask with proper grammar. ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Smartenup:
Cigarette anyone? :p :D

After reading this thread, especially the last page, I am going to start smoking again....with ice cream of course.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xxMAGIC MANNxx:
Haha, I love it!

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] jojo_16:
I earn 7.25$ an hour a I got myself a G2 with unli plan, I have an iphone 3G and when I get my 25cents raise I'm gonna buy an iphone 4, so 9$ is still a lot u know..
[G2 and Desire Z General] TrueYears:
I do hope when it gets out

Miui will make a version for it
[G2 and Desire Z General] TrueYears:
So in other words, you're just bored

Gotcha
[G2 and Desire Z General] pulser_g2:
Thread cleaned and closed as it's turning into a flame-battle
[Epic 4G General] rocket321:
For anyone trying to decide between the Evo and Epic, here is my take after having each for at least 2 weeks as my primary phone. These are just my opinions as everyone has different tastes :)

I must be an exception to the rule...I switched from a Palm Pre to the Epic for a couple weeks. I liked swype so much I decided to drop the epic for the evo.

After using an Evo for two weeks I traded it back for an Epic and I like the Epic much better for a few reasons.

First I didn't care for HTC Sense. I like the gallery, email, music player, calendar, and various apps included with the Epic better than HTC's versions. Also, HTC doesn't ship a file browser or task manager whereas Samsung does. Some people will say "just install one from the market" but those typically all have ads. I realize you can remove the ads with a host file, but that’s beside the point. These are basic OS functions that should be included.

Second the Epic feels much faster. Scrolling is smoother and games run better. Froyo or not, it’s faster.

Third…contrary to what you may believe it is MUCH easier to root an Epic. With the Epic you can essentially take the long way or the shortcut 1-click method but the Evo HW0004 currently there is only a long somewhat difficult root process.

Fourth, everyone complains that the dev community is so much better for the Evo. I would argue that this community is really top notch and has been extremely helpful and understanding to new users such as myself. I saw a lot more flaming going on in Evo forums.

Finally the hardware: Something overlooked by many, the Epic is way more comfortable to hold. Turns out rounded corners are round for a reason. After browsing the web & xda for about 30 min on the Evo I noticed the center of my palm, right where the bottom corner rests was a tad sore, almost felt bruised. This is not a problem with the Epic with its nicely rounded body and curved back. Also the earpiece is much better on the Epic, its louder clearer and is more comfortable up to the ear. And yes, the samoled screen is worth the 0.3” loss in size.

I wouldn't even consider the Evo Shift at this point. I'm shocked to see so many people recommending it over the Epic which to me is well worth the higher price.
[Epic 4G General] thechicgeak:
If they fix the keyboard issues, GPS issues, and battery life issues I would agree with you that the Epic 4G is definitely the best phone on Sprint. If a Droid or the iPhone had even one of these issues, all of the media outlets would be up in arms and there would be mass returns. They are all MAJOR issues. For some reason, Samsung is allowed to get away with it on the Galaxy S devices. People are not really returning their devices in large numbers (as far as I know), and all of the reviewers gave the Galaxy S devices very high scores.

The reality is this is essentially a device with alpha or beta quality software on it, that is not getting fixed until at least six months after release. I am not buying Samsung again for mobile phones.
[Epic 4G General] ericizzy1:
I have to agree with op. Best phone i ever had, and i have had quite a few smartphones. even before official froyo, it runs much smoothr than the few evos i played with. Gps, keyboard is perfect for me. And the screen is amazing.....
[Epic 4G General] rocket321:
Stock Evo vs. Epic battery life is within 5% I would say. I couldn't tell any difference in my usage. Probably because I am almost always within Wi-fi range which makes a big difference.

Keyboard on the Epic doesn't impress, I'll agree with you. Thats probably why I use swype most of the time. It is very handy to punch in passwords though.

GPS is better on the Evo. If you are a road warrior I would avoid the Galexy S line. That said, if you enable GPS & wireless networks it will place you on the map within 30 seconds, but it is definitely not as accurate as the Evo. Supposedly Samsung is working on improvements.

Thanks for bringing up some points I didn't include!
[Epic 4G General] swanysto:
A. The keyboard is the only legitimate argument you have here.

B. Most users who buy the epic(and yes, the users who root and are members of this forum are the minority) do not see a GPS problem. I didn't even notice one till I started reading this forum and trying to replicate the problem. I have two friends with Epics, and they have never complained of the GPS not working.

C. The battery is no worse than the Evo, and that is a fact. Read on both forums and you will see that everyone gets VERY comparable operating times. Unfortunately with screen this big and clear, you aren't going to get the battery life of other phones. Have you seen the screens on Evo and Epic compared to iphone and droid? They are night and day difference, and the product of that is battery life.

If you go to the Droid forums you will see complaints as well, however because 80% of the public does not have the same demand as the users of forums like this, the complaints are not escalated as highly. The high end techies complain about everything that is not perfect, cause techies are never satisfied, I should know, I am in that boat. However, that does not mean we are holding a inferior piece of hardware/software. Outside of this forum, I have never met a normal person dissatisfied with their Epic or Evo.
[Epic 4G General] docdg:
I was in a sprint store last week getting a replacement Epic so while waiting i did about 15 seperate 4g bandwidth tests with the floor demo and my replacement Epic comparing it it side to side with the Evo. I'm disappointed to say not only did the Evo best the Epic every time in some instances it nearly doubled the speed. It regularly was 1-3 megabits a second faster and the fastest speed for a Epic was 7.2 megs and the Evo was 10 megs. I also noticed that even though we were in a full coverage area the Epic would go from full to no bars for some unknown reason. The Evo must have a better antenna or the Epic has some reception issues. Has anyone else tested this out?
[Epic 4G General] Electrofreak:
I'm going to chime in here and state that the Epic's 45-nm S5PC110 is ~20% more power efficient than the EVO's 65-nm QSD8650. The SAMOLED on the Epic does eat more juice than the EVO's LCD when cranked all the way up or when displaying lots of white pages, but when displaying dark colors and blacks it can sip less energy.