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[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
i know these are gonna sound like baby steps but here goes...

after doing that wireless sync setup above, enable wifi and make sure you can connect to the network fine.

connect the phone to power so that wifi stays on, and then close zune on the desktop. leave your phone for a while and see if zune on the desktop starts on it's own within 15 minutes. if it does, that means your computer and phone are communicating with each other fine.

if not, the problem could lie in either the phone, the computer, or the router. i know some routers offer wifi isolation, where devices over wifi don't see other devices. this may or may not be the issue. it could also be firewall related (not just your computer, but router as well).

these are a few things you can investigate which will help elimiate some issues. if you have another router (hopefully a different branded one), i would give that a go as well to see if this would get around the issue.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Desynthesis:
I appreciate any advice. I spent the better part of 6 hours today (thankfully, I wasn't doing anything else) trying to get this to work with Zune Tech Support before the guy gave up and told me he'd call again tomorrow.

So, closing the Zune software (not terminating it in the task manager or anything, but closing it) is instrumental to this? That could be it.

I'll try all these steps. I had no trouble getting my first DVP to sync (kind of funny, as I returned it due to crashing). I'll then go about checking the router--except I've searched around, and haven't seen any posts about ports on the router (I have an E1000, pretty typical router) anywhere, just people talking about firewall issues. I doubt it's the PC or the router, in any case, because I was able to do it previously.

EDIT: Well, leaving the Zune client closed did not change anything. I guess I'll try another router next, an old DIR-615. Of all the complaints about WP7 syncing on the internet, practically none of them mention routers, and only a few mention firewalls--and usually not Windows Firewalls. So that's mostly a dead end.
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
yea it most likely is, but i'd give it a try. wireless sync is awesome and i use it all the time, never connect the cable anymore, so i know how much you want it. if all else fails... try a hard reset on the phone and if that doesn't work either, return the device for another?

i know they are the worst case scenarios, but they are possibly the last two that will fix it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nrfitchett4:
you said this is a replacement device. Did the previous dvp sync over WIFI?

Sorry, but those devices seem to be really buggy.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Desynthesis:
Yeah...funny thing, as I mentioned, this phone has been surprisingly crash-free (almost a week, with one crash, and that might have just been me being impatient) compared to the first one I got. It would suck to have to replace it because the wireless sync option basically died (it did seem to be working for a time, now it's completely "given up") and get a crashier replacement (though that's somewhat unlikely).

I'll try a hard reset--no harm--and when that presumably doesn't work, I'll try another router (though that's pretty bad, since my current router was hardly cheap and it was a much needed upgrade from a 4-year-old earlier model). Then go back to pestering the Zune tech people again. And I guess I can get a replacement if neither of those work.

Additionally, I'm almost entirely certain that it doesn't require the Zune software be closed (mostly because I remember wireless syncing happening while the Zune client was still opened). In fact, it might be the other way around.

You don't know the half of it, though this wasn't actually a replacement--I got a full refund on my original one and ordered a replacement so I could start fresh on the refund. And as I mentioned, it did--though it crashed constantly, unlike this one, which doesn't crash at all.
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
no need to keep zune closed anymore. it was just a test to see if zune triggures or not, but as we can see it doesn't.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Desynthesis:
Well, I apparently exhausted all the options of the Zune Tech Support team--it took quite a few hours--so the only recourse is to get a replacement.

I just hope I'm not given a refurbished model--I'd rather try my luck with another return then, frankly, since this model was nice and crash-free.
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
sucks. guessing you also exhausted all the suggestions i gave, so yes, new phone is the best way to go. make sure on zune desktop you "forget" all the past phones before syncing (just to clear out any cobwebs).
[Windows Phone 7 General] Desynthesis:
No kidding, definitely scrub it clean and set it to forget. The Dell Tech Rep promised me a new one, so...if I don't get it, I have grounds to complain, heh.
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
lol definitely. let us know how it goes.
[Windows Phone 7 General] OGCF:
i'm not sure why you would want to replace the phone. is it really a big deal if wireless sync isn't working?

Seems like too much hassle for too little reward, but hey if you want it that badly then go for it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Desynthesis:
...yeah, it is. I don't know about you, but I leave my phone charger in the wall near my clock and bed, where I've always kept my phone. My computer is not in the same area, and the cable is quite short.

WP7 all feature the ability that, if left on their chargers, will sync--in effect. The "hassle" is already over--namely, trying to fix the problem. Actually calling in for the replacement took all of 6 minutes, at the most, and I get to keep my phone until a suitable replacement comes.

I'd like it if it wasn't problem, but I'd prefer to have the feature over not having it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Desynthesis:
Well, my replacement came in....and it's not syncing either.

Basically, it's the same as before. Wireless Sync simply won't trigger. It doesn't try and fail, it just doesn't sync at all. As though someone's keeping the phone from going idle, or the process never worked in the first place.

On the bright side, there was probably nothing wrong with the second phone I got. On the down side, only the first phone I had--which I returned--every wireless synced properly (and it did it without me even knowing it was an option to begin with).

No idea what's wrong. Calling Zune Support mostly served as a way to suck up all my monthly minutes, so I'm pretty much on my own, I suspect.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tbk21:
I had the same problem with my HD7, the first month wireless sync worked perfectly. But since January it is not syncing anymore. Setting it on the laptop of my dad wireless sync worked again. So it seems to be something on my own laptop.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Desynthesis:
It's a mystery.

I'm going to try another new router, and see if that makes a difference at all. If that works, I'll have to sell my E1000 for cheap, unfortunately, but if it actually fixes the problem, I can live with that.

In any case, I need to return one phone to Dell, and as it stands, I think I'd keep my no. 2 if the no. 3 makes no clear change.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DarkRyoushii:
I'm having the same problem with my HTC 7 Trophy however I've never been able to wirelessly sync successfully. I've only tried a few times and only had the phone for a week now, however the setup process on zune goes through perfectly.

its a random hunch but I believe somewhere on the official site, MS says that you need to have approriate encryption/security on your router. could this mean my unsecured home network is the problem?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Desynthesis:
Interesting. I have a password on my network, and my phone has no problem using the Wifi. I even tried toggling it to wireless-G/-B only, since WP7 apparently doesn't support Wireless-N.

Made no difference. Likewise, nor did having a new router.

There must be a hidden setting if that's the case that no one actually knows, and some people have accidentally toggled, effectively killing wireless syncing.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DarkRyoushii:
My phone is brand new with hardly any settings changed, hard reset once and everything else I could possibly think of.
[EVO 4G General] snovvman:
With certain files, SteelH describes using Root Explorer as "like trying to swap the engine of a car while it's running"

I experienced this as I tried to copy back a modified services.jar file with Root Explorer. I ended up using ADB and it worked fine.

Question 1: I did this while the phone was running/OS loaded, but ADB copy method worked while Root Explorer didn't. Why? Does ADB have higher authority in some way?

Question 2: How about using a terminal window on the phone to copy/replace files (if a computer is not handy)? Does it yield the same function/result as Root Explorer or ADB?

Question 3: If I simply want to back up the file, say services.jar or framework.apk, to be copied to SD, can I use Root Explorer for that?

Thanks.
[EVO 4G General] timothydonohue:
i can't answer all of these authoritatively, but i will say

-i find adb to be the easiest way to do ANY modifications, as long as you know just a handful of commands and remember to remount. also remember to pull anything you are getting ready to mess with, just in case you bork it up. takes a lot less time to push an unmodified file than it does to do a complete restore. especially if you forgot to backup, lol

-if you have a terminal app mounted with rw privileges, you can move whatever you want wherever you want. however, referring back to my last point, adb is easier. i find that trying to type type type things out on a dinky little keyboard is a bigger pain in my butt than using my full size one, especially when i can use cut/paste from the intertubes.

-i think rooted explorere shouldn't have a problem copying a file from /system/ or /data/ to some folder on your sdcard
[EVO 4G General] snovvman:
Thank you for the information. I just copied a file with terminal (on phone) and Root Explorer. Interesting thing: using the CP command, the file that was copied onto the SD showed the current date. The file that was copied using RE has the original date.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VeryCoolAlan:
Does anyone like this vitrtual surround sound?

Anyone use the effects better?

What headphones do you use?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hazard99:
i forget what headphones I have but I use it all the time. I will have to admit even crappy audio sounds decent to me though
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shehrammajid:
on the jfd firmware, it had a noticeable difference when enabled and used to make audio sounds awesome....ever since the updates after that...it doesnt do anything :(...at least for me...using stock headphone
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Monk4Life:
Sounds a lot better than not having it on.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] hero32:
so this is two different colors i have made so far let me know what everyone thinks they can be pushed to the phone thru adb unless somebody wants to make them flashable i cant get that part figured out i will put them up if there wanted this is the blue carbon http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17065055/snap20110109_213250.png ......... this is the red carbon http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17065055/snap20110109_211359.png
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] user7618:
Easy way to make them flashable:

1. Download a flashable keyboard. Check my sig for a link to mine.

2. Open zip with 7zip.

3. Navigate to system/app folder.

4. Remove the latinime.apk in there and drag yours in.

5. Close 7zip. It will ask if you want to update the zip. Click yes.

6. Rename the zip to whatever you want.

7. Sign the zip to make it flashable with an auto signer.

8. Post and bask in the adoration of your peers.

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[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] hero32:
first off thanks alot man that helped out a lot now when i zip it back i put it in the sdk folder so it is easy for the class path and i go all the way with autosign till it says sign apk and i click it and i get an error saying java/lang/classnotfoundexception: error in opening jar file c:\program files\java\jre6\lib\rt.jar any help would be greatly appreciated and thanks for the help so far
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] user7618:
What signer are you using?

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[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] hero32:
i have no clue i need to find a video to show how to set up adb 7zip auto signer to all work together i think thats my whole problem like 7 zip is working on it own it dont ask me nothing when i zip something any advice would be appreciated i really wanna get it set up i have themes coming out my ears i just cant sign nothing lol thanks
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] user7618:
Hold on just a sec...

Ok, go here. Get the autosigner in the op's sig. It's the one I use. You'll need to dl the JDK and install it in path. Instructions are provided. :)

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[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] hero32:
ok

ok bro thanks alot im going to give it a shot i will get back thanks again
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] hero32:
one last thing should i uninstall adb and all that or should i just download this and go with it
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] user7618:
Keep it. Never know when it may come in handy.

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[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
Preferably a more subtle approach kind of like this:

http://compixels.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Tron-iPhone-4-Theme.png

I'm looking mainly at the icon's I don't want a ridiculous launcher like on the bottom right picture. I can change my own background. Something more subtle than the ugly Tron themes I've seen for Android. I'm thinking Samcrow's theme with a more cyan light blue tinge to it.

The key is more black than cyan to really make it. I don't understand how some of the themes everything is cyan, it isn't even close to resembling the movie. All the suits are mostly black with cyan or red accents. I'm thinking a red version and a cyan version.

Again this is a request with my opinion in it and hopefully it didn't come across to pushy or obnoxious.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] neur0t0xin64:
OH MAN!!! This would rock!!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] MWBehr:
You get me the icons/images, I'll look at packaging them into a theme ;)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
These are probably the closest icon themes I can find.

http://www.ithemesky.com/iphone-4-theme/TRON/2814

Almost like a cyan blackberry theme.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
Well I modified some of Samcrows icons for personal use, I'll ask if I can share his work. Let me know if you guys like the icons...

I don't care for the disc, but it's late and IDGAF atm.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] SEALBoy:
Looks pretty stunning. Perhaps some orange shades as well since those were also in the movie?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Segnaro:
The Zedge app has some pretty cool Android Mascot-Tron themed wallpapers.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] MWBehr:
I'm pretty sure he'll have no issue with that as long as you credit him and link back to his thread :)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
I sent him a pm cause I would really like to see him make a cyan version of his theme cause I think it would look great.

Here are some of the icons in that orange color.

If I was an artist or knew how to do this pretty well I might put on a glowing effect around all the icons.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] chupacabra613:
Uhh, That's the $hit!!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
I'm working on notifications now, here's what I have so far. These are modified from Masters Axura rom. The drop down toggles are a direct transplant from the Axura rom as they already fit the scheme very well.

Samcrow said to go for it! I am so excite!

I flashed my icon's along with BlackFroyo.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] BuLLeT_PrOOf_wAlleTz:
Wow that actually looks nice never really liked black froyo.. but I like how this looks...
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] iynfynity:
Tron themes ready looks nice. unfortunately, out won't go well with gingerclone
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
I've went through my gingerclone phase, once the novelty wears off of any theme it's on to another one. I'm working on converting Samcrows swype keyboard, it's going to look awesome.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] MWBehr:
When you get done with that, you'll understand why I only made it for english users. 14 keyboards was enough! lol

Are you looking to just change the silver border or are you converting the text color as well?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
Both, and ya I stopped around 3am last night cause I had a meeting at 11am this morning one set of keyboards is enough lawl. Once I get the first one done I should be able to go in and change the colors a lot faster. I'm not very happy with my level of perfection so far but I'll have to see how it looks on the phone before I say ok this is good.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] MWBehr:
Ya, I had thought about making that one with blue for the "shift" letters, but never got around to revising it. Might actually be kind cool to do the main letters in blue and the shift letters in orange. I still have the original paintshop layered images somewhere I think....

Oh and I'm not sure if you've looked into it yet or not, but the "EN", "SYM", "ABC", etc. buttons will require some xml editing to get the color you're looking for. I can't remember which off hand, but I can look into it again if you need.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
That would be cool, I'll have to learn how to do that. I wish I could just do that in notepad instead of some weird program.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] MWBehr:
Well, you can open an xml in notepad (although I prefer notepad++), but you have to decompile the apk first.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
I use notepad ++, I read in the theming tutorial that it adds 0's or something and it messes with the code.

I'll pick your brain some more when I'm in front of my computer.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
Tron Swype WIP:

I think I'm going to get rid of the blue in the X part on that last picture...maybe. Let me know your thoughts.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] gmoney11:
Please make this happen for the masses. Personally, this is the look that I've wanted since getting a smartphone lol.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
WTB batch photoshop editing for this battery lawl...

I gotta setup VLC so I can listen to the soundtrack in FLAC format while I'm doing this.

That's it I'm busting out my bigger screen and mouse now...

http://onthejohn.net/working.jpg
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] MWBehr:
Market I ran accross that may interest you (blue one at the bottom) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=909762
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
That will fit in great thanks. I'm cleaning up the borders now that I have a bigger monitor to use.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] willsnews:
Tron swype looks super sick
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] deadred:
where would we get that from
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
Swype is done in blue and that same orange color from the icons. Now I have to figure out how to make a .zip.

I know I need a meta inf folder, and a com->google->android-> update-script file.

Also the app folder...

Then at least this in the script

copy_dir PACKAGE:app SYSTEM:app

but i might as well delete dalvik too with this:

delete_recursive DATA:dalvik-cache

copy_dir PACKAGE:app SYSTEM:app

Is that it? There's a few other files in there and I'm wondering if the signing app will put those in there. Is this correct?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] MWBehr:
Sounds like you've got it. Meta folder should have 3 files in it. You'll never need to touch those.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] willsnews:
I can't wait to see this theme finished it looks awesome
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
Well I didn't touch anything that is edited in an xml, other than that the colors are cleaner with no gaps in the middle anymore. I was working a solid 12 hours just correcting the first version that you have already seen working on each key on the keyboard individually. I definitely learned how much time and effort people put into this.

I'll be making a new thread for the release.

Oh and I still don't know where all of the images are yet. I wanted to start on he keypad last night, and I hear the keypad in the phone.apk is in the contacts.apk....wtf is that?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
I had no errors on the signing tool but it is getting stuck at installing update...

Folder structure is how I listed it and I pulled those files from META-INF out of blackfroyo and put them in there in the correct spot.

:lostface:
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] MWBehr:
Signing tool? Should be no need for that. What are you trying to sign? The zip?

Just take any update .zip (like blackfroyo) and delete the contents of the app and framework directories (you can do this by either exploring the archive in an app like 7zip or by decompressing it). Then copy over your apks to the appropriate directories (app for /system/app and framework for /system/framework) and zip it back up if you decompressed it. That's it, it's ready to flash :)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
I didn't delete anything before, but that is what I did to install my framework icon's. Just figured maybe I should learn how to sign a zip.

I think I figured out what I did wrong, the update-script I have is in .txt what extension does it need to be in?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] MWBehr:
Nah, don't sign frameworks either. You want to keep the original signatures (the contents of the Meta folder). You only need to resign apks if you change the androidmanifest.xml or it's a market app in which case you have to pull the original key first.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
Here it is guys!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10611968#post10611968
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] phantomzer0:
I think this theme would look much better with wireframed icons in neon blue instead of just a square with a blue border. Otherwise it looks good.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] robertmichael91:
Full theme....

When is the FULL theme going to be released....all I see if the keyboard. It is VERY sexy though!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
I'm not what you would call a "themer" I'm still learning as I go, and there are still some parts of the theme that I can't even find. I can't find the keypad, nor do I know what the notification bar image name is. I wish there was something that listed me every part of the build and I would be on this non-stop.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] gmoney11:
What rom are you using? I'm running a nero rom and think it should be compatible. Thanks for the hard work, it looks pretty sick.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
I'm using Nero5 atm.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] gmoney11:
Are you putting together the entire theme, or just releasing the swype skin?

I'm happy with it either way :)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
That is the plan. Kinda bummed that no one has even said anything in my other thread though. This is probably a lot more work for a noob. :(
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] MWBehr:
Lol, theming is probably the most thankless work in xda. Accept that early on or don't bother ;)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
I'm still having fun and learning a lot both about Android and Photoshop. How the time's have changed...back in my MT3G days the themer's had much respect.

Anywho I'm working on this.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] zbt1985:
is this thread dead or is someone interested in working on a tron theme with me for cm7?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] j0hnZ:
I'm working on a theme chooser theme, it's turning out to be a huge pain in the ass.