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[Fascinate Android Development] aroy002:
All I am saying is that other people see a quadrant score and misunderstand where the performance is coming from. Going from 2.1 to 2.2, the Nexus 1 and other snapdragon-based chips gained a huge boost in score in both quadrant advanced and linpack. If you look at ONLY the CPU score, the N1 went from 800 to 5000+, and linpack from 6-7 to 30+ mflops. The Galaxy line's hummingbird does not receive such an increase, with those who are already running 2.2/JIT in Europe reporting around 15 mflops for Linpack, and somewhere around 1200 for the CPU score in Quadrant Advanced. The N1 runs on the yaffs2 filesystem, just like the newer Nexus S. Applying voodoo to the Nexus S also increases the IO score in quadrant advanced by a lot, thereby increasing the overall score of the device by a lot. But as you know, the Nexus one and S are free from the RFS crap, so how do you justify the boost in score? This is where the artificial number/score comes in. Applying a lag fix to a device that is already lag-free? All I'm saying is that yes, it evens out the playing field for us fascinate users when u install voodoo, but quadrant's overall score is not accurate, based on a bloated score gained by voodoo. The CPU score of our devices, even with JIT and 2.2 are still lower than those running on snapdragon based hardware devices. The Nexus S seemed like it finally received the necessary OS tweaks in Gingerbread to perform similarly to snapdragon, but it turns out that the score may be reporting incorrectly, as quadrant does not yet run properly on GB. Some of the CPU tests cannot pass and so are skipped, thereby tricking quadrant into inflating the CPU score.

As far as hummingbird vs tegra 2, Dungeon Defenders does not run at a smooth framerate on our devices, but the Tegra 2 has been demoed with it running nicely. There are also various GPU based benchmarks out already for the Tegra. I dont really care about gaming much though. I'm just pointing out some facts. And yes, I am very excited for KAOSCINATE!
[Fascinate Android Development] boostedjti:
Have you heard of smartbench2010?

Thoughts on its accuracy?

769 for productivity and 2629 for games...
[Fascinate Android Development] SoCalSpecialist:
pictures biaaaatch!

:D

yea..i got a facinate too. :p
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
Do I need to get gapps on v2? If so, where do I get gapps?
[Fascinate Android Development] cj1171:
super pumped about this rom! Holding off til GPS is working though...
[Fascinate Android Development] smitth6750:
If you look through the post there's a few links to them
[Fascinate Android Development] DevinLeFevere:
Who really cares at this point in the development on how fast and phone is? These phones are so far advanced right now and how much faster does 5ms matter?

Anyway back to the subject on hand. Can't wait till this hits beta haha. Really sucks it had to move out on the day this was released and waiting on dumb comcast to hook up my Internetz.
[Fascinate Android Development] kennydied23:
What's the changelog for v3?
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
I don't see v3?
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
V3 has not been released yet. There will be a changelog when it has.
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
Glad I'm not crazy ;)
[Fascinate Android Development] rmcusc:
as soon as Wi-fi is working, I might have to give this a try. I am so glad that someone is doing this, particularly someone this good. Will this be available via rom manager once it becomes more stable? At what point are these alphas usually considered ok as a daily driver? Also, am i understanding that you have to have the voodoo5 enabled b4 running this or just installed, but disabled? I always like to be careful and make sure I am clear on what do do with voodoo b4 I do anything.
[Fascinate Android Development] Sophos1:
Classic :-)
[Fascinate Android Development] Kevin Gossett:
You need a voodoo kernel installed, and then you need to use the kernel provided in the OP
[Fascinate Android Development] GoogleAndroid:
The Tegra 2 isn't that impressive. At 1024x600, it gets a 27 in Neocore. The Galaxy Tab, at the same res, gets 53. And in the Quadrant GPU tests, it runs in the low 20's on the first test, the 50s on the second, somewhere in the 60s on the third(I imagine Galaxy Ss would too if the FPS cap was removed), and in the 40s on the last one. Pretty much equal to the Galaxy S. But those are just benchmarks. Who knows how well it runs 3D games? Either way, I doubt you could notice the difference, since the Fascinate easily runs them at over 30fps. While I do experience a little bit of lag in Dungeon Defenders, the Tegra 2, as far as we know, has no lag with it. And then, obviously, the CPU will be much faster since it is dual core. But it won't be that big of an upgrade going from a Fascinate to a Tegra 2 device. Besides, you'll probably have to ditch the awesome sAMOLED screen.
[Fascinate Android Development] DevinLeFevere:
Does usb connect to pc not work? I forgot to install Gapps and trying to put it on my sdcard.
[Fascinate Android Development] GoogleAndroid:
Nope. You need to use adb push.
[Fascinate Android Development] draco259:
What os are the tests of the tegra 2 done on?
[Fascinate Android Development] GoogleAndroid:
2.2 as far as I know.
[Fascinate Android Development] draco259:
From what I heard (if this is true or not I dont know) 2.2 doesnt utilize dual core cpus but 2.3 does. If that is the case then the tegra 2 would get much better test results with gingerbread then it does now.

But like I said, not sure if what I heard was true.
[Fascinate Android Development] kennydied23:
Ok. Only reason I asked is because they're passing around links for v3 on irc.
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
Good that means it might be close to being released. I can't wait. I freaking love this rom
[Fascinate Android Development] GoogleAndroid:
BT is supposed to be fixed in v3 but that is it. And it was pulled because it isn't entirely fixed. I just checked the irc.
[Fascinate Android Development] GoogleAndroid:
Hmm. Maybe it is true and that's the explanation.
[Fascinate Android Development] jiggaman508:
Ok, please don't hate...but how the hell do I get on the new server, I went to "irc.droid-life.com" and it says forbidden...then I installed xchat and it says it can't find server, but I can log into freenode server...am I an idiot??

EDIT: I got it to work on my phone using andchat...still not on my laptop though...
[Fascinate Android Development] DevinLeFevere:
When future versions come out can we just flash over top of the previous version? Without data wipe?
[Fascinate Android Development] Kristopherr:
You have to go into voodoo CW and disable lag fix for /system install the new rom and then re enable the lag fix.
[Fascinate Android Development] DevinLeFevere:
Thanks! All without a data wipe?
[Fascinate Android Development] adambobbyburgers:
Try this: http://webchat.darkwingduck.org/
[Fascinate Android Development] Neuman.Tim:
Yes all without a data wipe. However I saw someone saying v3 may require a wipe. I don't know if that is still the case but keep it in mind and be prepared for it if it is true

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[Fascinate Android Development] jiggaman508:
Couple more days and this will be my daily driver. So excited great work kaos :)
[Fascinate Android Development] smitth6750:
Its already my daily. I love it
[Fascinate Android Development] DevinLeFevere:
Just started using it today as my daily. It rules! Mms doesn't seem to work though. No 3g color in bars and that damned roaming triangle is there. Amazing alpha start though!

Edit- Forgot about the extremely slow battery charging. Is that a known issue? Maybe it's just because I can't sit my phone down.
[Fascinate Android Development] Neuman.Tim:
Actually I set my phone down to charge when I got off work at 6am and it finally charged by like 4..but I hadn't slept for like 3 days and crashed out finally so it may have charged sooner and i just didn't wake up to realize it lol

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[Fascinate Android Development] DevinLeFevere:
Lastly my phone ringer won't ring, but it does show im getting a call. Just won't actually ring.
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
i kinda know what you're talking about. when i get phone calls for what ever reason, my screen wont turn on so i can answer it. power button works and i connect so i am not complaining. Than you Kaos you know i love your work.
[Fascinate Android Development] nklenchik:
Keep up the good work :)
[Fascinate Android Development] allcity187:
I love this rom but i think i'm going back to my old rom when more things work. I want to go back to blackhole 3.0 and a voodoo 5 kernal. to my understanding the kernal we have now is a voodoo 6 kernal. do i have to disable lagfix to revert back?
[Fascinate Android Development] DroidFamily:
So. Dumb question. I flashed kernal 4 from original post and I flashed v2 does that mean I flashed a voodoo kernal
[Fascinate Android Development] adambobbyburgers:
Yup. Welcome to the world of voodoo, please enjoy your stay.
[Fascinate Android Development] baxtermedic:
Just do it to be safe, will save you alot of headache in case it gets retarded, take less time to convert then to un f**k it, i would imagine
[Fascinate Android Development] Neuman.Tim:
I'm hoping he was on voodoo prior to flashing as that is a prerequisite for this rom and kernel

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[Fascinate Android Development] teeharding:
Sorry I couldn't let this go. This is the wrong place for this discussion but I purchased and played dungeon defenders and have yet to see a framerate drop. Runs smooth as butter. (Voodoo non-OC'd)
[Fascinate Android Development] pwnjabi1:
FYI: Kaos' latest twitter picture shows wifi as working :)
[Fascinate Android Development] kennydied23:
I just shed a small tear of happiness.
[Fascinate Android Development] cnattiel:
WI-FI!!!
[Fascinate Android Development] aroy002:
Lol ok. I'm not a voodoo/fascinate hater. I love this phone and was following supercurios work from way ago. I'm just trying to be objective but everyone is getting butt hurt and taking what I say like a personal attack.I'm glad you don't see the laggy frame rates but I'm very used to 60 fps so its very easy to tell for me. look forward to trying kaoscinate!

Sent from my SCH-I500
[Fascinate Android Development] DroidFamily:
No I was on stock fascinate. But I have the rom up and running smooth. Is there something I'm missing
[Fascinate Android Development] Neuman.Tim:
Yes you should have done a voodoo kernel before putting the kaoscinate kernel on..the op lists it as a prereq to the setup

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[Fascinate Android Development] tmlhodge:
disable my current voodoo lagfix to flash v4 kernal correct? just like normal right

--sent from fascinate--voodoo5--superdarkDJ05--
[Fascinate Android Development] fverdun:
help!!

im a moron evidently, but after flashing the kernel my phone boots uo, but the touchscreen does not respond, hence my phone cannot be unlocked or do anything, tried to boot to recovery but i cant mount the sd card... what can i do???
[Fascinate Android Development] Ahodson1985:
Download mode and Odin.

Sent from my sch-i500 using dj05 w/ stupidfast kernel
[Fascinate Android Development] BrwnSuperman:
I know what you mean. It's playable but not as satisfying as it should be. Complete videophile here.
[Fascinate Android Development] tmlhodge:
anyone?

--sent from fascinate--geeknik1220--superdarkDJ05--
[Fascinate Android Development] zakth:
Looks like things are running very well, currently have V3 installed with kernel 5. Still no WiFi or Bluetooth though. Keep up the good work.
[Fascinate Android Development] mustangforlife23:
So is the fascinate pretty eol at this point?
[Fascinate Android Development] Jceezy:
No you need to have it enabled when flashing the Kaos kernel
[Fascinate Android Development] piiman:
What good is Duel Core when the OS doesn't support Duel Core? Its going to be just like when PC's starting getting duel core. Seems like its just going to be a great marketing gimmick and a battery drainer.
[Fascinate Android Development] Kristopherr:
it's my understanding that you leave the voodoo lag fix enabled but disable the /system lag fix. Then install the kernel, then the rom, and then re-enable the /system lag fix.
[Fascinate Android Development] AlexDeGruven:
The whole "the os doesn't support DUAL cores" argument us getting retarded. All os variants since about 2000 support multiple threads, and are able to handle more than one core in some fashion.

Android is built on Linux, which supports up to 64 cores in it's default configuration (this number has probably changed since the last time I looked in to it).

Additionally, dual core processing works like wifi. Clock for clock, it requires more power, but it's able to process more workload in each cycle, lowering run time, and actually increasing battery life in the end. Just like how wifi consumes more power per second, but chews a ton more data in that second.

Sure, the technology won't be fully utilized until H or I releases, but not including it would cripple further development.
[Fascinate Android Development] adambobbyburgers:
Hmm I didn't disable anything, but I didn't upgrade kaosinate. You only have to disable system lagfix before upgrading (ex. V2 to V3) kaosinate?
[Fascinate Android Development] DroidFamily:
Why whenever thing works fine
[Fascinate Android Development] hbc.ciccone:
Where you getting v3 from? I cant seem to find a link..... P.K Rocks!
[Fascinate Android Development] tapout27:
Thats my understanding...disable system/lagfix if upgrading between builds or resorting to nandroid
[Fascinate Android Development] upsidedownaaron:
got cm version 3 and kernel v5 from irc. i don't know if it is fully "released" yet. i haven't installed any of them yet. i am not sure if pk wants it out of irc or not...

otherwise i would link it for you. but you can go get on irc and get it.
[Fascinate Android Development] Neuman.Tim:
Because the kernel didn't actually convert to voodoo. It tried and says the partitions unavailable..Unless it had been updated..non voodoo is rfs file system, froyo is ext4 which is what voodoo converts the rfs system too..that IS the voodoo lagfix..you aren't using froyo to its potential without being on ext4..either way its a good idea to follow the instructions on something like this brother.

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[Fascinate Android Development] djb28:
My browser force closes after a few seconds. Am i doing something wrong? Market wont even open.
[Fascinate Android Development] Neuman.Tim:
What version of the rom/kernel are you using? V2rom/V4kernel addressed that issue.

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[Fascinate Android Development] djb28:
I am using CM v2 and kernel 4

Contacts list gone too. 3 g not connecting now.

cant see any other issues at this time.

But damn is this fast.
[Fascinate Android Development] adambobbyburgers:
Yeah I'm seeing many browser fc's (no dialog box, just closes app) in both the default and Dolphin HD. I'm using v2 rom and v4 kernel.
[Fascinate Android Development] djb28:
Bummer. May have to wait a little longer for this one?
[Fascinate Android Development] DroidFamily:
Dumb question where can I get a voodoo kernal to flash and all I have to do is download it and flash it like normal right.
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
try installing gapps, I think the reason for the force closes were due to apps looking for location. installing the latest gapps should fix this. I believe there is a link on page 29 at the top. you need to read a little bit, but i think we are using "hdpi" but read first and verify that part of the info.
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
rom manager. jt1134 section, voodoo, select which one you want and flash from there.
[Fascinate Android Development] Hatespawn:
It's actually mdpi. There is a link somewhere within this thread to them that you can search for.
[Fascinate Android Development] Kristopherr:
Yes exactly.
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
this is what i was going off of, as i have no idea which one is true
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
http://rom.galaxysense.com/gapps

I would start reading at page 25 to see the discussion
[Fascinate Android Development] Daswolven:
My attempted install gave me fc hell. Might wait a bit. :)
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
No, its actually HDPI. The MDPI ones are for first gen smaller screen phones.
[Fascinate Android Development] zakth:
I did not disable anything when I upgraded from V2 to V3. I put the files on my SDCard then I loaded up CM Green, installed the rom first then the kernel and rebooted. Everything works just peachy.
[Fascinate Android Development] xvoorheesx:
I had to take this for spin. Looks really promising. Here's my dilemma. Was running voodoo5 disabled lag fix ran Kaos kernel. Now I've gone back to my daily driver. Tried to reinstall voodoo5. Seems to have work but no voices on reboot. And when I check in CWMR its says lagfix is enabled but will be disabled on reboot. I'm I seeing Odin in my future?

Disregard. Was able to get /system lagfix running by flashing earlier version.
[Fascinate Android Development] hbc.ciccone:
nvm........
[Fascinate Android Development] italysfinest327:
can you share where you found it bc when i go to ircdroid life it seems to be down for me.
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
Guys there is not currently a V3. What people are passing around is a BROKEN test build. You don't want it. You shouldn't flash it.

If its not in the first post of this thread, it doesn't exist.
[Fascinate Android Development] upsidedownaaron:
i just read that on irc after i posted. i am glad i didn't flash it then.
[Fascinate Android Development] zakth:
As stated above V3 is not a release but was a development test. It has no advantage over the current release so there is no need for anyone to hunt it down or flash it. I did simply because someone posted a link to me in irc.
[Fascinate Android Development] djb28:
Thanks. But those links on pg 29 do not work for me.

WORKING NOW. NM
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
why not? you have to click on gapps in the list. that is a complete list of gapps. I just checked it and it works for me. and i am at work with **** blocked:confused:

EDIT: SWEET!
[Fascinate Android Development] BatsShadow:
Thanks for the awesome work you guys are doing.

Now that WIFI is working, what's next on the list? I would love to have the camera working.
[Fascinate Android Development] zakth:
I do not see a release that has working WiFi... where is this information coming from?
[Fascinate Android Development] Crashspeeder:
Twitter. Wifi is working but the framework isn't picking up that DHCP is working.

http://twitter.com/#!/punkkaos/status/27071902560296960
[Fascinate Android Development] djb28:
I loaded it up but when i put on the HDPI i used CyanogenMod 6 and chose 20101114. Should i have gone with EPE54B CyanogenMod 5? Because when i got to the boot screen, The trail just kept going around the android for 10 minutes, before i shut it down.

I am on SCH1500

I really do not know which to use. I looked at the chart below but do not see a fascinate any where on it.
[Fascinate Android Development] ivorycruncher:
Preach it, brother kaos! :D

Posted from my DL09 SuperClean Fascinate with Voodoo
[Fascinate Android Development] donopj2:
USB Connection

I just flashed this and very little is working. I need to install the latest gapps, but I can't seem to mount my phone via USB, which is how i usually move files to my phone. Are others seeing the same issue? Is there an alternative way for me to install gapps?
[Fascinate Android Development] smitth6750:
Directly to your phone and install via cwr
[Fascinate Android Development] donopj2:
I am wondering how to get the file onto my SD Card to install, without being able to mount. Is there a way to push the .zip to my SD card?
[Fascinate Android Development] upsidedownaaron:
pull out your sd card, put it into a card reader (in my case an old blackberry), push file onto card.

put card into phone, install from clockwork?

just a theory.
[Fascinate Android Development] khartma8:
I can think of 6 ways

1. Put card in a PC via an SD adapter

2. Use ADB

3. Mount via recovery

4. Email it to an email account you can access from your phone and download it.

5 Go directly to the webpage on your phone.

6. Flash back to a previous rom and get it then reflash.
[Fascinate Android Development] nufan:
7. Dropbox or Sugarsync
[Fascinate Android Development] donopj2:
Thanks, did the trick!
[Fascinate Android Development] rw9:
awesome progress pk... thanks for all of the hard work you've been putting in on this...
[Fascinate Android Development] RacerXFD:
For the record, most of the stuff passed around on irc can break your phone and can take serious work to fix it.
[Fascinate Android Development] turtle555:
yep

For the record, most of the stuff passed around on irc can break your phone and can take serious work to fix it.

Reminds me of an old girlfriend!

:D
[Fascinate Android Development] fverdun:
sms not working???

i cannot send or receive any txt im running v2 and v4 kernel... anything i may be doing wrong??? help!!!
[Fascinate Android Development] zakth:
Try rebooting your phone and see if that helps any. Sometimes the signal will drop and not come back. Can you place and receive calls? Can you open the web browser and navigate?
[Fascinate Android Development] fverdun:
i can place and receive calls and data works... :(
[Fascinate Android Development] Neuman.Tim:
Bln and blinky both work fine with this setup if anyone wanted to know

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[Fascinate Android Development] Killarny:
DO NOT USE "Show running processes" setting! (if you do, here is how to fix it)

I found out the hard way today that using the Dev Tools app to turn on a setting called "Show running processes" causes android.process.acore to crash, over and over. This means that you will see the boot animation for a few seconds, then the home screen, then back to boot animation, etc.

If you do end up turning that setting on by accident, here is how I fixed it:

Enter the adb shell (it'll still work, while your phone is endlessly restarting and crashing the android process):

$ adb shell

Start the sqlite3 program, and give it the location of the settings.db file:

localhost / # sqlite3 /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db

The sqlite3 program lets you manually change things inside sqlite database files. It'll look something like this when it starts:

SQLite version 3.6.22
Enter ".help" for instructions
Enter SQL statements terminated with a ";"
sqlite>

Enter the following command at that sqlite prompt:

sqlite> update system set value = 0 where _id = 60;

Now it should echo the command back to you, and the setting will be changed. At this point, the android process should stop crashing.

To exit sqlite3:

sqlite> .quit
[Fascinate Android Development] jmaher1023:
Do I need to do a full wipe before installing a voodoo kernel? The last time I installed voodoo, I kept getting warnings that I didn't have any memory available. Idk how much has changed with voodoo in the last few months tho. Thanx for the help!

~Jim
[Fascinate Android Development] mgrimmenator:
help to understand. if hardware wise the vibrant and fascinate are the same phones then why is froyo out for the vibrant on team mobile through teamwhiskey and we still can't get froyo? Why is Verizon dragging it's heals on this, wtf. I don't get it.

PS thank god you guys are working on a port for whatever source your using cus I don't think Verizon will ever frickin release.
[Fascinate Android Development] imnuts:
they aren't the same hardware. There are differences in all the SGS phones that make porting much harder than one would think.
[Fascinate Android Development] Neuman.Tim:
He just got wifi working right guys :)

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