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[Fascinate Android Development] Spaniard85:
Good taste bro.

I'm a VZW sales rep, and I have the Fascinate as my business phone. I've ran v5 before, but I definitely need to be able to answer calls. I still have my OG Droid, but ever since I got my SF I've been primarily using it. I think I may bite on the Tbolt too, though, and just try to get the Droid Bionic as my biz line when the time comes!

So stoked to see kaos' progress on this, though. This is the one ROM I'm holding my breath for!
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
Not much. GPS will likely not be in V6.
[Fascinate Android Development] BlackHoleSlam:
Thankfully I never need gps so once v6 is out wifi will work any other major fixes
[Fascinate Android Development] Hatespawn:
If you followed him on twitter you would already know. It has all been repeated in this thread as well. Take some time and whip through it and maybe by the time you're done Kaos will have it ready. Who knows? Either way it's a good way to get up to speed and kill some time while we patiently wait.
[Fascinate Android Development] BlackHoleSlam:
Yeah I am following his twiiter and I saw that he had wifi working
[Fascinate Android Development] mikeymop:
Once MMS and wifi are working this ROM could definitely be a daily for the majority. Good Work Kaos :)
[Fascinate Android Development] acidburnd:
I flash My SF like 12 time last night i try all the roms and kernels and try the spb mobile shell and run good on the fascinate no problems but i need the GB
[Fascinate Android Development] TheHunterOfShadows:
I saw your tweet. My two cents is work on cm7. Unless that would take more than a month to get somewhat stable. If andrenalien (sp) is jumping to the thunterbolt a more future facing rom would be awesome. Not saying he is jumping ship but I thought I read he is doing some TB work. Either way keep up the good work and what ever you release I will try :)
[Fascinate Android Development] mising:
Re: twitter CM6 or CM7

Definitely CM7, I think it will be worth the wait to get everything working.

Froyo has been my daily driver for quite a while now. Looking forward to some more GB.
[Fascinate Android Development] j3oomerang:
CM7

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[Fascinate Android Development] k rock:
CM7 for sure.

Thanks for all the hard work!
[Fascinate Android Development] tripacer99:
The question kaos asked on his twitter page:

"Ok, pop quiz everyone. Would my fascinate users rather see a better CM6, or me keep concentrating on CM7?"

Definitely CM7!
[Fascinate Android Development] Jmatch:
Im gunna have to say cm7 I am itching to flash somthing new I love kaos's work alot so either way im gratefull for devs who ask for our imput
[Fascinate Android Development] jorge3687:
CM7 No Doubt.
[Fascinate Android Development] ataranine:
CM7! Kaos is the man. I say we wait til he gets all the good stuff working. :D
[Fascinate Android Development] jorge3687:
I Just imagine how people that have switched to the thunderbolt would feel if we get a full working gingerbread, ahhhhh what a dream!!
[Fascinate Android Development] bobloblaw1:
I lean to CM7 unless CM7 would require an impossible amount of work or if CM6 could be had with very very little work.
[Fascinate Android Development] nsmal24:
CM6orCM7

Having come from the Incredible and used both, I would say that it really doesn't matter. The main difference between CM6 and CM7 from 99% of users' standpoints is the default theme. Both of them SCREAM when built correctly for that device. Kaos, whichever one you can get MOST functional putting your time to the best use would probably be the best choice.

I understand that many disagree with my viewpoint, but that's because we are used to being on the bleeding edge of tech with our Android smartphones. Giving up the newest thing is very hard, but, seriously, try to find someone with an Incredible/Evo/etc that has CM6/7 and compare the two. I think you will be underwhelmed by the difference.
[Fascinate Android Development] Chuban7:
cm6 for sure.

CM7 would take alot longer before it could be used as a daily driver because of lack of source.

CM6 could be more manageable because the only problems that we would need source for are mms, BT and camcorder, those are the only two thing broken in MIUI and AOSP
[Fascinate Android Development] Jmatch:
I take it back cm6
[Fascinate Android Development] Hatespawn:
It is mostly ui differences as our device does not have nfc anyway. While I do enjoy the glow when scrolling at the end of a list and the screen off animation, neither make my fascinate faster or more functional. My vote is for whichever you will enjoy working on most or whichever you decide to build for your fascinate. Coming from an Eris I know I will dig your work no matter what you decide.
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
My instinctive response would be CM7 for sure but if you could get a CM6 version out fairly quick that is as functional as Jt's AOSP or more functional I would love that. I would love CM7 but I get the impression that CM6 is a more realistic possibility given the impatience of all of us flash junkies. Lol!
[Fascinate Android Development] s44:
Everything works on the GSM SGS versions of CM7.
[Fascinate Android Development] thefunkbot:
I really think theres no way to give an honest answer to this question without you atleast giving us an overview on how far you've come on cm7 and how much is left, and the same for cm6. I know you hate unveiling your progress but at this time it seems necessary.

(However, that aside, i would much rather have CM7. We have plenty of great Froyo Roms for this phone already and i'm ready for something as cool as miui.)
[Fascinate Android Development] evilhunter101:
My vote goes to whichever can have a functional mms first. I hate having to tell people to email me whatever files they are trying to send me.
[Fascinate Android Development] BlackHoleSlam:
i would honestly rather have cm7 and i agree with thefunkbot how can we decide which is better if cm7 is near done and cm6 hasn't gotten worked on since v4 hypothetically of course
[Fascinate Android Development] fortesquieu:
CM 7, pretty please!
[Fascinate Android Development] Chuban7:
That means nothing to us that the gsm versions are fully working we are on cdma we have been told hundreds of times that it doesn't matter what gsm has the radio's are different
[Fascinate Android Development] s44:
Actually it means quite a lot. We know there's a solution out there to all non-cell-radio based issues- and we even know what the solution basically looks like.

Swyped from my Voodoo-powered Fascinate via XDA
[Fascinate Android Development] Legato525:
I vote CM7.
[Fascinate Android Development] Chuban7:
Well think About It this way. If we have mostly working cm6 then we can use that as a good base for CM7 because the two are mostly the same and that will make CM7 come faster
[Fascinate Android Development] McFluffnStuff:
I'll throw in a vote for CM7 as well. Why? Because Froyo for the Fascinate is already guaranteed. It's just a matter of when. Gingerbread, however, is likely to never make it to us, at least not any time soon.

Might as well get ahead of the curve.
[Fascinate Android Development] Jaredsk74:
I'm voting CM7, froyo already works for this phone, yes its filled with samsung bloat goodness, but at least its a working 2.2 rom. Gingerbread, however, may never come on the fascinate, it would be awesome to see a working gingerbread rom!
[Fascinate Android Development] PeterGunz:
This. CM7 would be awesome.
[Fascinate Android Development] pkopalek:
Cm6 for sure.

Cm7 doesn't offer a while lot in terms of functionality and it's worth having a more complete functionality of the phone.

Cm7 would be "cool" but when it's time to navigate or use the camera (insert random not working stuff here) then... Not as cool. I'm guessing cm6 is easier to make all the hardware work.

That's my vote.

Plus cm7 is still being developed. Cm6 is largely done and settled. Cm7 could added lots of features that we need to do some work to add, if it's not as simple as re compiling.
[Fascinate Android Development] thefunkbot:
While all of this is true, you need to remember that it is guaranteed that an official froyo rom from samsung is coming. Unless samsung really drops the ball, i think it's safe to say it will be just as functional as cm6 (it better be for how long its taking), and if not it will still be a much better base for froyo roms than eb01 is.
[Fascinate Android Development] preymond:
voting CM7 over here. We already have enough people working and pretty much stalled on Froyo without the release of source. And once source is released, you won't really have all that much work to do to bring CM6 over.

Gingerbread could take up until the end of the year before we see it, so you working on that would benefit us much much more.
[Fascinate Android Development] tmlhodge:
Is it possible to post the old cm6 up along with the new cm7
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
I'm sorry, I must be missing something... I see all these votes for CM6 or CM7, but no post that indicates that kaos is taking a poll to decide which version he will keep working on. I scrolled through the last few pages of this thread more than once, but still can't find a post calling for a vote on the matter. Could someone please enlighten me (without flaming, please)?

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[Fascinate Android Development] dubiago:
It was a poll that Kaos put on Twitter that people, for some reason, feel obligated to respond to here.
[Fascinate Android Development] ryanf:
It doesn't matter now anyway. He said he is working on the majority vote..... cm7
[Fascinate Android Development] ivensiya:
Vote for CM7!
[Fascinate Android Development] dubiago:
What's interesting is that GB will probably never see the light of day on the GS1s in any official way. Hell, they'll all be lucky to have Froyo on them, the way things are going.

My guess is that, ultimately, they'll either not update beyond Froyo or they'll skip straight to 3.0.
[Fascinate Android Development] s44:
They all *do* have official Froyo now... except for us. (Argh!)

Rumor now is that Samsung sent another build in to Verizon last week, so we'll see again. Hopefully we can see a day-zero source drop as with the Epic.
[Fascinate Android Development] AlexDeGruven:
Your idealism is cute. In fact, what will happen if 2.2 doesn't go official for the SGS is that the line will be retired in place, like the Motorola Cliq.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
I agree - we will eventually get "official" froyo (judging from all the DL30 and EB01 bugs, the delays really might not be due to Samsung / Verizon politics), and then the line will be retired. There will be no "official" GB or Honeycomb IMO. Therefore, I hope Kaos is eventually able to build a feature-complete version of CM7.

Hopefully I'll learn how to build my own ROM by the time the whole Fascinate section here at XDA gets retired as well. I can't renew until July 2012. By then we'll all probably be running Android 4.2 Jelly Roll on quad-core 2Ghz phones with Super Duper AMOLED Plus And Then Some displays (featuring 4.5 inch 1280X800 resolution and 45-minute battery life).

Even if I could afford an off-contract upgrade, I'd probably wait for a third-generation Galaxy S in hopes of a qHD AMOLED display (the Galaxy S II still only has WVGA resolution). Even though Samsung has a horrible track record of updates, they have AMOLED and the only other major manufacturer (Nokia) that currently uses AMOLED has committed to WP7.

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[Fascinate Android Development] jkat797:
keep up the good work kaos!
[Fascinate Android Development] DroiDAddicT14:
Hahahahahahaha..jelly roll
[Fascinate Android Development] sunder74:
There is a whole lot more than a theme that differentiates CM7 or GB in general versus froyo. The most obvious is the theme and the UI. But most of the changes are under the hood at code level.

For example apis are now 10 (supporting NFC...near field communications etc), there's also better power management because of a daemon app that runs in the background, its voip & sip communication supported, webm /vp8 video playback and aac encoding, gyroscope, better copy/paste, better http downloading management (for large files).

That's not all just what i can remember reading. Granted not all these features are applicable due to hardware limitations etc (ie no front facing camera etc on "older" devices.)

But i think a full GB experience would be the way to go. May take a bit more time but its forward progress versus staying with froyo which is a step backwards imo. So that's my .02 cents on the matter of froyo vs gingerbread. :)
[Fascinate Android Development] jkat797:
+1. Gingerbread all the way!
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
The other big one you forgot is seriously better memory management.
[Fascinate Android Development] sunder74:
Yeah that is a big one. I have CM7 on the og droid and it runs pretty well. Runs amazingly well on my DInc and Evo and I have no doubt it wil run well on our Fascinate just a matter of time.

I just want to say I appreciate your work and have been using it since I left the G1 for the Eris. Again keep up the good work man.
[Fascinate Android Development] nsmal24:
I understand that there are huge differences between the two versions. My point was just that a large percentage of users only care about look and feel (and quadrant for some reason). In my experience, both CM6 and CM7 offer terrific usability.

I voted for CM6 b/c I would much rather prefer a fully functional AOSP Froyo rom over a (possibly) eternally crippled Gingerbread AOSP rom. Usable source code may never drop for GB on the Fascinate.

I guess all that is to say. I agree, GB is superb in many ways. I hope it can be fully built for our awesome hardware to replace our crappy Samsung software.

Thank you Kaos for all of your work.
[Fascinate Android Development] s44:
Again, feature-complete AOSP Gingerbread CM7 was built on the i9000/Vibrant/Captivate without a single line of Samsung Gingerbread code besides for the Nexus S.
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
Its totally doable. I'm doing it right now, its just slow going due to some really weird changes sammy made to the kernel and RIL interfaces.
[Fascinate Android Development] s44:
Yeah, I figured the radio was the sticking point. Any chance the Sprint Nexus S code will help?
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Maybe from the Sprint Nexus S, as the current T-Mobile one has a GSM radio. Even then, I don’t know if code from Sprint's cdma radio can help us.

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[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
Actually the biggest sticking point is the kernel. Ive actually got the hardware at almost 100% using the nexus s 2.6.35 kernel, but the radio doesnt work with that kernel. Im trying to get working 2.6.32 sources so i can fix the driver issues im having with that kernel.
[Fascinate Android Development] Kazba1626:
Hey punk,

I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate you maintaining the fascinate. Many of the Devs

have disappointed me lately by selling their"old devices" and stopped deving for them using the donations they collected and asking for more to get whoever a new device to dev for the new device. But they leave behind half done roms. I don't have a problem with devs buying new devices but finish a rom or keep your old one and don't leave behind the community that supports you.
[Fascinate Android Development] tjthebest:
I think kaos got a tbolt too :-(
[Fascinate Android Development] cabagekiller:
I am not trying to downplay Kaos at all, but from what I had on other devices, the initial set up part is a ***** and after that it is just merging with the CM7 repo. I mean he will still need to update things, but the HW and radio once setup should be much easier.
[Fascinate Android Development] dnoyeb:
Saw the mesmerize code is up. Im guessing itll help eh?
[Fascinate Android Development] Ryanx196:
Here it is! http://support.zte.com.cn/support/news/NewsDetail.aspx?newsId=1000502

Or http://www.droidforums.net/forum/ra...tudio-2-6-32-froyo-gingerbread-gzip-lzma.html
[Fascinate Android Development] jiggaman508:
I emailed Samsung open source...same old bs...they replied saying early April froyo release and source code shortly after....
[Fascinate Android Development] sunder74:
This is a tweeted from mrbirdman a couple days ago... "Status of froyo from the horses mouth."

http://twitpic.com/4bzeh4
[Fascinate Android Development] BlackHoleSlam:
Interesting
[Fascinate Android Development] jt1134:
So far the folks who got new devices are still working on the fascinate, so where are these half finished left behind roms that we need to "finish" for you? To date, ROMs from these folks have received NUMEROUS updates.

People develop for these devices on their own time and for their own reasons. Every time I see a lame complaint like this it makes me regret posting anything to begin with.
[Fascinate Android Development] dnoyeb:
I appreciate you devs. Thanks for your hard work.
[Fascinate Android Development] ivorycruncher:
Kaos, source code for the Mesmerize has been released. While it runs a different radio of course (software radio; still a CDMA device), the hardware is essentially identical (SCH-i500, same as the Fascinate). PLEASE tell me you can use that source code for the kernel and whatever else you need!!!

EDIT: Got the source in my Dropbox for quick download if you want: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19017034/SCH-I500_USCC_Opensource_Update1(froyo).zip
[Fascinate Android Development] sunder74:
So true... i know devs that support multiple devices including "older" ones. Anyway back on topic once source is released things should definitely move quicker. Be patient guys and it will come.
[Fascinate Android Development] ckirkp79:
Woot Woot i sure hope the source for the mez can finally give us fas owners a yummy gingerbread Rom.
[Fascinate Android Development] ivorycruncher:
You know, it's probably actually a good thing that devs get newer phones, because then they won't be relying on their Fascinates for daily use (if they were to begin with), and can more easily work on them. :)

EDIT: Birdman confirmed on twitter that the Mesmerize source code is exactly what they need, so look out, people. We're gonna see some interesting (or perhaps Fascinating? sorry had to say it) things happen soon.
[Fascinate Android Development] punk.kaos:
I'm grabbing it now, it SHOULD be exactly what we need, as the Mez is also a SCH-i500. :D
[Fascinate Android Development] sunder74:
Yup do your thing man.

"@_mrbirdman_mesmerize kernel = fascinate kernel. so thanks :)"
[Fascinate Android Development] fortesquieu:
weeeeee froyo source code is dropped!
[Fascinate Android Development] Jmatch:
And were back...
[Fascinate Android Development] bobloblaw1:
Do what you do because you love to do it and ignore the haters. Thanks for all you do jt, kaos, and all. I'm exited that maybe this source will bring some old faces back and maybe this forum will bustle like it used to.

Thanks again guys for unlocking the potential the fascinate has that VZ couldn't kill thanks to your efforts.
[Fascinate Android Development] DroiDAddicT14:
Happy happy happy happy happy!!!! B) yeeeeeaaaaahhhh
[Fascinate Android Development] ataranine:
Yaaaayyy :D Source!!

Time for some good ole Gingerbread!

Good luck, punk.kaos!
[Fascinate Android Development] BlackHoleSlam:
This is awesome ....... This is awesome ....... This is awesome
[Fascinate Android Development] Spaniard85:
Nice! Now I can start giving my SF some love again. I'll admit I've been neglecting it since I got my Thunderbolt. :P
[Fascinate Android Development] Crashspeeder:
They have NO obligation to "finish" a rom. Technically software is never done anyway, so you can't finish a rom. Also, a donation is just that, money given freely without expectation of anything in return, otherwise it would be payment for services rendered. You are not paying the devs, you're thanking them for their selfless (yea, they GAVE their code away) efforts and expressing your gratitude monetarily.

If they want to buy new devices I'm glad for them. I wouldn't think twice about a new phone if it was given to me or I got it for cheap. I wouldn't say to myself "but JT and Kaos are still working on that ROM and I still want to support them and their work" and neither would you. You'd move on, so let them do the same.

On top of all that, they've said they'll continue developing for the fascinate, so that makes all your points moot.
[Fascinate Android Development] ilprobu2:
+1000^ nobody could do anymore than they already had without the update.....all development here has far surpassed vz or sammy and always has hip hip for all devs ......
[Fascinate Android Development] famousface:
Devs are awesome. I've never used XDA until my Fascinate and the talented and generous developers have not only made the Fascinate a great phone and envy of others who see and use it, but I've learned tons in the process. Thank you all.

By the way, who do you think I'm going to listen to when it is time to move to another device? With the attitude of the negative poster we'd all still be stuck on the G1. Anything you send our way is bonus and much appreciated and supported.
[Fascinate Android Development] DroiDAddicT14:
Agreed w/ what everybody said against kazda...go kaos go!!! (Can't wait :D. )
[Fascinate Android Development] Kazba1626:
Probably should have been more clear I switched from the Droid X after the bootloader hoax. Then it didn't seem like many would be working on it anymore. My comment wasn't meant towards the fascinate Devs. Sorry guys.
[Fascinate Android Development] mikejaret:
Thanks Kaos! Eagerly awaiting v6 to test this out, just too many things broken for me to flash my business phone over!
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Personally, I'm looking forward to the return of voodoo sound enhancements, which weren't possible for froyo without source code ;-)

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[Fascinate Android Development] tmlhodge:
well its a reality now that they got a source code for ec10 today
[Fascinate Android Development] BlackHoleSlam:
agreed jm and i am also looking forward to voodoo color enhancements which i was too scared to test on 2.1 but now i'm ready
[Fascinate Android Development] joshnichols189:
Everyone forgetting BLN? :D
[Fascinate Android Development] tmlhodge:
He said he is using the mez kernal source now! We are going to have a great rom
[Fascinate Android Development] BlackHoleSlam:
Agreed
[Fascinate Android Development] Tenburn:
Is this project dead? I know it has been a while with no updates.
[Fascinate Android Development] tmlhodge:
Are you serious? How can you say its dead? He is hard at work with the new froyo kernal source release. Just chill man he is doing awesome work.
[Fascinate Android Development] kidserious:
Did you just come out of a coma? Lol. I talked to kaos last night. This project is alive and making progress!! He gave me some great news!!! It coming!!
[Fascinate Android Development] AlexDeGruven:
Reading comprehension really isn't your strong suit, is it?
[Fascinate Android Development] fortesquieu:
Alright guys, cut it out. There is no need to continue to bash that guy. Let's all be patient and wait for King Punk Kaos.
[Fascinate Android Development] StDevious:
lol, looking at the comments below to your comment above and given your username, I would say 7 to go.
[Fascinate Android Development] ataranine:
Wow...when people see an opportunity to flame...they grab it by the balls. xD

Anyway, Good luck again, Punk. I can't wait to see what you have in store for us in the coming days/weeks. :)
[Fascinate Android Development] bizzshow26:
This is exactly why I gave the droid2 up for this phone gingie would be way to hard to put on a x-2 shoot from the roms I've tried 2.1 was better on the fascinate than froyo on the d2 oh boy I can't wait to try a beta or rc gingerbread rom