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[Vibrant General] scrizz:
why are people getting so upset.

WHY ARE PEOPLE DEFENDING SAMSUNG or Tmo?

WTF is wrong with u all?

we still don't even have an official Froyo.

**** them!

**** them!

I paid $534 for this Pile of ****....

GPS was a sack of ****

rfs is a sack of ****

I'm all for MicBeats!

No wonder we get all these ****ty software releases.

not just in cellphones

look at computer software(includes games ala BC2)

or drivers

they release beta quality software

and release patches to get it to release quality later.

WTF is this ****.

no wonder companies get away with stuff like that.

look at all the people jumping down MicBeats throat.

I remember back when companies actually released finished products.

**** ****

k, i feel better now
[Vibrant General] Duomaxwell:
Yes people will ***** but the only people who aren't going to ***** are the ones with nexus s and regular nexus damn touch wiz. I wouldn't be surprise if the my touch 3g got gingerbread before us.
[Vibrant General] TheArtiszan:
Really I never seen T-Mobile advertise anything about 2.2 on vibrant

The GPS hardware thing that was admited was fixed with the newer models. I have also had mine since release and with JI6 is working fine.

And at the time was the best that google had to offer. and can still do newest market google books and more.

I have never seen a official promise from T-Mobile saying the vibrant is going to be updated. And yes everyone knows the Nexus S is a variant of the galaxy s phones but IS DIFFERENT hardware. I would also love to see you walk into a T-mobile store and buy one. Ohh, that is right you can't because they don't sell that phone at all. It is a unlocked device sold by best buy for any network and is not tied to T-Mobile.

There is no intent by T-Mobile to hold back update on only possible intent by Samsung to hold back the update to sell more Nexus S devices simply because T-Moible is NOT selling the phone and you can't prove the latter.

People are going to want the Vibrant beacuse that is a device that t-mobile can support vs they can't the nexus s since it aint theres.

Also just because it is a nexus phone don't mean it will get updates first. My nexus one didn't get 2.3 yet. Maybe we can sue them too. Where do I sign up.
[Vibrant General] CalvinWatterson:
your "government name" HA HA HA see this is why I follow you

spoken like a well educated hood rat from the ghetto go get in your low rider cutlass supreme on 20"s to your next show for the little children HA HA HA

Oh and I didn't bully everyone who critized tmo thye have thier issues just they have no fault in the update I only bullied you because you are acting like a idiot.

Oh and please pm me your address I have some spare miles to use.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
Thank you very much this bullying these rogue vigilante tactics carried out on behalf of Samsung and T-Mobile only strengthen my case

and these tactics are the reason why

I was subsequently booted from the T-Mobile forums

I posted the law several times because my threads were being deleted, and I was being blocked

TO PROTECT THE BEST INTEREST OF T-MOBILE

IT STATES THIS CLEARLY IN THEIR TERMS OF USE AT THIS FORUM

http://forums.t-mobile.com

THAT THEY (T-MOBILE)

ARE ONLY LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR BEST INTEREST

AND NOT THE PEOPLE!

whenever you have an issue with this device and try to have it resolved

A T-Mobile employee whose sole job is to monitor and PROTECT that forum

will directly attack you

modify any of your post's by inserting FALSE info to mislead the people

EVEN threaten to go find you and smack you

They have a solid reputation for banning any and everyone

who does not PRAISE T-Mobile, and bow down and worship them

I'm being a little melodramatic

but that is literally how it is on that site

Whatever simile can be used to drive home the point that is possibly the best one
[Vibrant General] krntehknik303:
Damn, is this guy serious about suing?

This **** is ridiculous and funny, guess its true that you can for ANYTHING!

Lol. Man, good luck to you sir!!

Not that anyone cares for what I do with my phone, but my plan is to keep this phone in great condition and sell it for much money as I can before Vibrant 4G comes out, so I can get the new phone... kind of looking into getting the Atrix once it comes out for AT&T.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
And who are you with your biased rant based on your PERCEPTION of who I am

I RUN a Record Company, I am a BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL

NOT A GHETTO RAT! I came from the Ghetto and am doing something constructive with my life

can't say the same about a hypocrite like you who chooses to become ghetto just as a poor attempt at getting a reaction out of me that would get me banned from here too

Your intent is transparent

I see right through it

You would really come all this way to smack me

well who is the immature childish idiot

cause it sounds like you are

On top of that your half hearted attempts at playing God by judging me

without even knowing me personally only prove that you are nothing more than a servant of Satan Samsung, and T-Mobile

BTW I am far from a child

you on the other hand are delusional

and obviously suffer from some sort of sociopathic disorder with delusions of grandeur

WOW you actually know more about me than God.

NOW THATS A DEVELOPMENT:)
[Vibrant General] TheArtiszan:
Wow bullying really? Is this the play ground you going to take your toys and go home? lol

Something tells me you were going a little beyond just making your opinion known and also I know this probably happened too. Where the thread just got out of control.

Also beta quality software is also pushed out in partiality because they are pushed by people like you. Who keep saying where is my update now or I'll sue. So they push out the update early to placate the people to a degree. Ever think of that.

Bottom line I am by no means defending Samsung I want the damned official update too and just some clarification would be nice about status.

I will however defend T-Mobile (no I am not employed by theme) I have been with them since 2K and never done me wrong and it is not their fault that this phone has bugs and we are not given information from Samsung. Also no one promised to me the update or advertised it that way.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
is 6 months not enough time for you

while free phones budget phones, almost every other phone except the Galaxy AREADY HAVE HAD FROYO FOR AT LEAST TWO MONTHS

According to the user SamsungVibrant
[Vibrant General] djallen1:
I too was promised 2.2 within a month of August 2010. I'm over it as I'm running Nero 4 which T-Mobile can't even come close to in inovation and functionality. The only people who will make out in this suit are the lawyers. Root your phone and load a decent ROM. My GPS is spot on. No dropped calls. No lag at all with Ext 4 file system. Great phone.
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
I agree with SamsungVibrant.

:mad:
[Vibrant General] CalvinWatterson:
Business proffesionals? that is what they call the drug dealers these days. Your sites really proffesional looking.

I think you are the one who is too big for thier britches

I just get a kick out of seing your responses. I see also you spent alot of time reasearching your last comment.

g1, cliq, cliq xt, backflip, samsung moment, htc hero,droid eris, sony x10 all these phones are not getting 2.2 EVER lol per the manufacturer.

Samsung says they will stop being a impatient baby crying over spilled milk
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
OK Calvin...look

I get it

you joined XDA BECAUSE t-mobile ASKED YOU TOO right?

I mean why else are you here?

whose wasting time really?

Your ONLY 3 posts on this site have been to bully mean

YOUR INTENTIONS ARE TRANSPARENT.

YOUR FAKER THAN A 3 DOLLAR BILL

BTW I did all that PHP programming myself on my sites

you wish you were as resourceful as me

get a life

I make my own hours so If I want a day off I get it

ok

I am being professional, pro-active, selfless, I'm citing sources

you are just acting like a jealous idiot

My name is known worldwide

ever heard of Sinista Beatz?

I'm sure you like my music

just to ashamed to admit it.
[Vibrant General] schnowdapowda:
Served.

cd's or tapes?
[Vibrant General] CalvinWatterson:
Oh that is why your site looks like a 8 year old coded it.

I think he works with 8-track tapes

Also I hear that is one of the benifits of living on the outside of the law that you can do what you want

t-mobile and no one asked me to do this. Just for shere pleasure. lol

wow resourceful you can read a html for idiots book lol not that hard.
[Vibrant General] dasunsrule32:
erm..., well, php is far more powerful and complicated then html. :o
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
CD'S, TAPES, MP3's, AVI's, MP4's, H264 lossless, OGG Vorbis, or 3GP

Audio/Video/ or Literary

ASCAP Member A.C.E. certified Songwriter
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
it would also be good to let him know that I designed and created every graphic used on that site with the exception of the avatars

this includes Animations, etc. I also know how to design/implement my designs into Operating Systems, Including the Animations/ Animated Icons, etc.

I am a certified Systems Administrator, Artist consultant, and Audio Engineer

when I designed BlackBerry themes

mine were the most Downloaded and Popular BB themes on Pinstack
[Vibrant General] dasunsrule32:
Well, he never responded... ;) He probably doesn't even know what a case statement is! :p Let alone an if/then statement or a while/for loop.
[Vibrant General] phattchumpy:
Ummm, I feel like I'm missing something. If samsung isn't working on bringing 2.2 to the vibrant than how do you explain jl5 and all the previous 2.2 leaks? Is the plan to sue for missing a delivery date? If so what is the precise deadline they missed? Is it not in the customers best interest to receive software that has been tested? I guess I just don't get it.
[Vibrant General] Miz_Buzzer:
hhmm,,

I have a galaxy spica and a member of samdroid.net. We didnt get 2.2 because of the hardware issue but thanks to the devs ,, we are even gonna get Gingerbread on our spicas... xD

my God, they should really get screwed for following such **** business policies!!! I SUPPORT YOU Micbeast!! BEST OF LUCK in sewing these cheapskates!!!
[Vibrant General] dasunsrule32:
At least the GPS is borked..., either way, I support this..., it's time the little guy showed the big guy they can't muscle us around anymore... :mad:
[Vibrant General] CalvinWatterson:
gps update fixes vibrant

http://www.bgr.com/2010/10/07/samsung-releases-ota-update-to-address-vibrant-gps-issues/
[Vibrant General] dasunsrule32:
Right..., apparently you've never used a Vibrant, that has wandering GPS, sometimes won't even lock on, AT ALL!

I have an old MyTouch 3G, and it locks perfectly every time, inside too.

* Can I get a ban hammer here?
[Vibrant General] CalvinWatterson:
With all the resources out there it is not hard to use photoshop and others to throw together some are your site is not that sharp lookign

i have no use for photoshop other then picture editing

and also I don't live with my parents

but I live in my own HOUSE

pay MY OWN bills

not sure how I am ungrateful

I should be greatful for taking down a company that didn't give a update yet

I have asked my parent for money since I was 20

I may not have 10 cars like mr big shot here running his own record company but i am pretty secure with what I do. Late night tv and making fun of the stupidity online is my cup of tea. Just keep responding and you could keep me entertained all night.

Now for the sad part is we will need to pick this up tomorrow again micbeast. Us grown ups actually have responsibilities during the day. With the way you are going at this though sounds like you actuall work for att and apple. lol

My dad would be laughing at you with me lol.
[Vibrant General] vud911:
I wish you luck. I hope you guys catch them with the GPS issue, which will, hopefully, make them fix it on a hardware level at the minimum.
[Vibrant General] endo689:
Can't really complain about the phone rooted with latest nero rom with voodoo and have had no gps issues. Also helps I got this phone for a penny...so really can't complain.

Sent from my rooted Vibrant: Nero v4.1; voodoo enabled. :-)
[Vibrant General] TheArtiszan:
I hope samsung don't charge for sending back rooted phones.

I guess that I was one of a lucky few since ji6 sitting here in bed locks on gps when I just tested it in less then 15 seconds.

What problem are you having with yours. Mine right now is unrooted running ji6 since nero 4 gave me so much problems and I didn't feel like messing with it and my compass is fine.

With your recent equipment replacement sounds like a bad unit was sent out and also since you are having problems you are also looking for flaws. Not to say they aren't real but finding thinks that previously wouldn't have complained about.

I still don't see how t-mobile let alone the other 3 major carriers as they will need to be lumped into this are responsible for samsung making bad hardware.

franky I would love to see samsung have to give us all free upgrade phones.

I just don't think micbeast or any one for that matter will be able to obtain that samsung or t-mobile intended fraud.best of luck with it though.

And with that I also motion that this thread be either locked or at least moved since is getting so out of hand.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
I just finished installing NERO V 4.1 with SBG 2.3 H FA

I used my UPGRADE TO GET THIS PHONE

I don't qualify for another for 15 months

What am I supposed to do if my device encounters a hard brick after

my manufacturers warranty?

I am not RICH, and I need an access WORKING device at ALL times

BTW NERO V4 W/ SBG Voodoo and all the fixes works beautiful

But like I said what then after my Manufacturers warranty and a hard brick

Will you be kind enough to buy me a phone?

cause I can't mooch off of my parents for that money

My Father is no longer here, and my Mother is flat broke
[Vibrant General] cvibe88:
You voided your warranty by flashing your device (we all did), So if you bricked it then you're SOL. Why should T-Mobile or Samsung have to take responsibility for that? Go get the free phone and stop complaining.
[Vibrant General] MicBeast:
Why? Whats the point

this is their best device, and they refuse to stand behind it

they made hundreds of empty promises

how is this even legal?

and keep in mind we voided our warranties installing ROMS based on an unoffical build of FROYO

that T-Mobile HAS HAD IN THEIR POSSESSION, since mid-December

what are you getting out of trying to belittle me, and you also cannot discourage me from doing something that I've already done

I appreciate ALL THE FEEDBACK this post has received

this post deserves to be one of the top posts here

it is IMPORTANT, and has generated a lot of constructive feedback

a couple people cannot force XDA to close or lock this forum

especially when they have nothing constructive to say!

we are not on forums.tmobile.com

you cannot bully people into shutting up for the best interest of T-Mobile here

what truly upsets me is that I am not doing this for myself in any way

and I have to face this much adversity for doing the right thing

What happened to the America that I remember
[Vibrant General] patriot1973:
Don't mean to be a dream-crusher, but this has about as much traction as a Formula-1 car on racing slicks in the mud.

You're probably better off trying to sue McDonald's on false advertising. Look at their picture of that Big Mac. Man, that thing looks like it's 4 inches high! Stacked with 2 all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun!

But when you open the box, you're staring at a squash-burger and your stomach turns sick.

Now THAT'S an example of false advertising!
[Vibrant General] tekowalsky:
I love this phone for the following reasons:

great hardware

Android

great dev community

Samsung did exactly what they do with every product that promises developer potential. They lied and schedule shifted to feed their sales cycle.

Google the Samsung Instinct and MIDP 2.0. They crippled the Java compliance and didn't fix it until after the next hardware version.

I learned my lesson with that phone. Why do you think we haven't seen the kernel source code?
[Vibrant General] mmelo76:
Cleaned Thread!

Deleted Off topic; Rude posts; etc..

Please keep this thread clean
[Vibrant General] Br1cK'd:
Much like the last time tried someone tried to bark up this tree. Yeah this isn't the first time, and I'm sure it won't be that last. Funny how the last one that someone was trying to start, just kind of faded away.

IMHO, if this open source software (android os) isn't what you want it to be, learn how to dev it. Thats the point and beauty of open source. All things like this serve to do is drive up the cost for all consumers, whether they complain loudly, or use what they have and be happy with it. Jumping back down off my soapbox now, y'all be cool.
[Vibrant General] J3ff:
I'm in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Vibrant General] raziel26:
Alright MicBeast could you please explain something to me why are you suing Samsung Tmobile Exactly is it because of the gps or is it because there is currently no froyo update yet and no im not trying be a jerk I just would like to know. I guess that I am sure you had heard the issues with behold 2 not ever being upgraded. Im just trying to see the other side of things because if so you took a chance when you bought the vibrant. Now the one thing I do agree with is the gps never being fixed that is some bs but honestly I just think you are kinda jumping the gun maybe hold off till the vibrant+ is released and if by then 2.2 is not released for us then proceed and push hard. That's all im saying and please don't take this as an attack its just a different view.
[Vibrant General] eltormo:
What more deceptive conduct than offering you unlimited internet,and punish you by reducing your speed for using it to much,what the hell that is why i pick an unlimited plan in the first place.

Is like the bank offering you unlimited fuel for your car for $40 dollars more a month on your car lease,but then they go to your house and deflate one of your tires,because you used more than 30 gallons,so now you have to ride with one flat tire.

I don't even know how can they legally do this,since i have my contract and i don't see any part where it say that if i pass 5GB my speed will be reduce.
[Vibrant General] raziel26:
I have had this exact same issue and I said the same thing not about car thing btw lol that was kinda funny but on the website in the terms of service it actually does mention that they can throttle the data service it is still unlimited because you are still accessing the web but at edge or slower speeds but I do agree if its unlimited and your charging me $30 plus dollars a month for the service I should have access to unlimited 3g speeds.

Sent by Pigeon Carrier.
[Vibrant General] eltormo:
I have my contract in hand is in spanish,since i live in Puerto Rico,and it doesn't say anything about the connection been cap if i pass 5GB,but is funny because one part say (in Spanish) that i have read and receive my contract,and that the English version of the contract will prevail over any other version.lol

That is complete and utter bullsh**,first because they did not gave me and English version,and second because they can promise things in spanish or omit them,and on the English version will be,and since you don't have a copy of the English one in hand you can't compare.

Thank god sites like this exist,also what if the services get affected,i mean this phone is been sold as a media and online hob,the first thing they advertise is the speed of the network,and the how you can see videos or hear music all things that consume bandwidth allot.

I wonder what would be the plan for 4G,it would be the same.? 5GB peak,because advertising all that speed when you will punish me for using is completely retarded and abusive on T mobile part,they bring people in making promises they break as soon as your in.
[Vibrant General] jrkart99:
I went through and read all the posts. The only thing I can think of is that we all rooted our phones to fix them and they do work well if you are willing to take that leap. We are the relative few that can make that jump and do this kinda stuff, or atleast lurk the forums and learn it. Obviously the Samsung/Tmo side does not feel overly compelled to do it themselves for all the others out there who can't/won't. Our voiding the warranty on the phone should be a moot point. But it makes me ask the question, "Who is this class action for?" Us? we fixed our ****, we are the one who don't need samsung. It works, and as long as the hardware is intact, we have the ability to make something functional out of it. We have 2.2, and IMHO a better 2.2 thanks to our devs. (Donate, they are good guys) I've been up on Nero v4 for 30 hours w/o charging, I get locks on GPS, WTF? Isn't that what you want? Samsung, Apple, HTC,... are stock. No matter who puts something out we are gonna tweak it anyway.

The fact that Sombionix can bang out a new and 99.9999% functional rom w/ minor FCs over a weekend says to me that either Samsung has a bunch of drunk, computer illiterate senior citizens as programmers, or they don't give a ****. I choose the later given the behold fiasco. I feel bad for the people out there that don't know how to do this stuff. They are the ones who should be complaining, not us. We don't need samsung, I'd like them to put something out that functions the first time and keep to their word. But we made it work. So, you know what, **** 'em. Don't buy anything from them again.

Your homework assignment is to find a noob vibrant owner out there, and teach them to flash. Remember, give a noob a flash and he has fun for a week, teach them to flash and they have fun for a lifetime. And the problem goes away.
[Vibrant General] pngface:
HAHA you guys are hilarious!

Seriously though.. I hope you win (we can only hear of such lawsuits in the US) Manufacturers should not take consumers for granted :p
[Vibrant General] scrizz:
i see your point but still.

If you buy a washing machine, I am sure you expect it to work, right?

Is it to much to ask the same of Samsung's cell phones?

Think about it.

They are shafting the consumer.

We cannot let them get away with this kind of behavior!

:mad::mad::mad::mad:
[Vibrant General] zedgar:
I like the idea of the suit and hopefully it will have an impact on Samsung/Tmo. But in my experience (handling such lawsuits) there are some difficulties that I see.

First, you need a basis for a breach of contract or fraud. I.e., you need to have some express statement or promise that they breached. And to be recoverable, it would have to be a contract or promise made before or at the time you bought the phone. Any subsequent promises are gratuitous and not usually the basis for an action. Second, if you are going down the road of fraud, you will need to show reliance on a false statement. B/c reliance will be different with each purchaser, this makes it difficult to certify a class. Without a class, these lawsuits have no teeth. Third, bad customer support usually cannot be the basis for a suit. When you bought the phone, it was advertised as having customer support. It does, it may suck, but it does.

All this said, I'm surprised it took so long for an attorney to jump on this. They will be the only ones getting any real benefit at the end of the day. Samsung/Tmo will settle by agreeing to give us some small concession and then pay the attorney fees.

I do hope this suit can get traction, so make sure you document everything. Hopefully you have some good evidence. Sometimes the big companies screw up b/c their sales/marketing arms don't know what the development or legal teams are up to.
[Vibrant General] sfasu77:
I hope you win! I'll just do my part and avoid the update-less samsung phones in the future.