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[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
I didn't realize honeycomb was done already. From what I see is honeycomb will be tablet only. My question is if the tablets get 3.0 and smart phones get 2.3 what's going to happen after 2.9?

I never realized there update schedual to you pointed it out.

Sent From Da Hood.
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
The OS version dubbed honeycomb may be tablet only, nothing about that means that phones won't see past 3.0
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Unified versions. Phone OS and tablet OS will eventually merge into a single OS.
[Epic 4G General] Electrofreak:
Yeah, all signs point to Honeycomb being tablet-only. It looks like they will go to 2.4 for Ice Cream and at some point they will merge the two as muyoso mentioned.

I'll bet Google put a different team on Honeycomb then they did on Gingerbread; I'm sure they collaborated but since Honeycomb is going to split off as the Tablet branch of the Android tree, they've probably got a separate team working on all the Tablet features like sorting out app / resolution conflicts and tablet UI enhancements. Anyhow this would explain the relatively short time between launches.
[Epic 4G General] EhudBenjamin:
From my understanding Google wants the Chrome OS on tablet and netbook. I think honeycomb is something to hold tablet people over til Chrome is ready. And Android has already jumped a lot of numbers they can easily jump 3.x and go to 4 for phones.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
At ces google did an interview and honeycomb will be on cell phones not just tablets....

Epic 4g Quantum Rom Ext 4
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Chrome OS is going to get dropped or at very least put on the shelf for a while. Android is too popular for Google to abandon it at this point. Its on everything. Also, at this point chrome os is no where near ready to publicly launch for consumers. Consumers would hate the OS for the most part. It offers zero advantages over android. Also, it looks like Honeycomb is running some modified version of chrome, so I am sure chrome OS apps will work on honeycomb. Maybe it wont be natively, but if there is a reason to do it, XDA will provide.
[Epic 4G General] Electrofreak:
Isn't Chrome OS x86-only?
[Epic 4G General] bomix:
I'm waiting till they get to "S" then it will be android 10.0 called "SKYNET". yes.. get me some guns! :D
[Epic 4G General] Slvrshot:
I'm starting to feel like every new release just reveals how half baked this platform really is.
[Epic 4G General] antonymilo:
xperia arc

http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3?sImg=newsimg/11/01/android-24/gsmarena_001.jpg

xperia arc running android 2.4
[Epic 4G General] kiekan:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/01/10/xperia™-arc-design-and-home-screen/

"I’ve seen articles around higher numbers than 2.3 being seen in the display of Xperia arc phones – As I have been informed that is due to a misconfiguration"

Its not really 2.4.
[Epic 4G General] sewhuy:
By the time we reach 2.9, our phones will have screens as big as tablets...
[Epic 4G General] decalex:
http://iphones.mypimpshack.com/?p=3546
[Epic 4G General] II5StarII Swag:
I actually think this is on schedule...what ever number ice cream is i believe whatever sprint releases in june will come with ice cream xD plus i upgraded to the epic in october but for some reason they are already offering me 150$ off an upgrade O_O
[Epic 4G General] magoo5289:
I think y'all are getting ahead of yourselves. lol If I remember correctly, there was a debate internally with Sprint and Sammy as to whether we were even getting Gingerbreas, so I alredy think that's the end of the line for us.
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Its not ice cream its icecream sandwhich because for the statues in front of google ha it will be hard to tell the difference between froyo and icecream. My source is gizmodo
[Android Apps and Games] dr_swetang:
real player for android.. plays auio, vedio and photos...

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[Fascinate General] Electrofreak:
Hey folks, I'm Electrofreak from over at the Epic 4G forums. I'm one of our hardware nuts over there (no, really, I'm not kidding) and I'm trying to solve a little mystery.

As many of you may know, the Quadrant benchmark heavily favors Snapdragon CPUs and also badly skews I/O scores on Samsung's RFS file system. In short, it gives Galaxy S phones a bad score despite their cutting-edge performance.

Since I'm always blathering on about hardware, a friend of mine at work asked me to recommend him an Android replacement for his WinMo phone on Verizon. I explained that the Samsung hardware outperforms what the Droids currently offer (excepting the CPU in the Droid 2 Global) even if software updates have been few and far between.

So he went and bought a Fascinate, and since I've recently been advocating testing a new benchmark application, Smartbench 2010 on the Epic 4G, I had him download and benchmark his stock Fascinate.

The result was pretty dismal; where a stock Epic 4G on Eclair gets a Productivity Index (CPU) score of about 700 and a Gaming Index (GPU) score of about 2400, he was getting like 300 and 500... at most. The I/O test was taking forever, so we rebooted the phone, cleared running apps, and ran the benchmark a couple more times, with the result being the same each time. The CPU and GPU portions of the test actually seemed to complete fairly quickly however, and there wasn't any real appreciative difference in overall performance between our phones when slinging through application menus or using the phone in general. (And damn, while I like having my Epic's keyboard, the Fascinate is so freakin' thin!)

Now, on the Epic 4G forums, we've tested this benchmark app on RFS and EXT4 file systems and the difference has been minimal (usually slightly in favor of EXT4). So I'm pretty sure it's not the RFS file system to blame unless there's something wrong.

Anyone else willing to download Smartbench 2010 from the Android Market (it's free, and designed by the folks at SmartphoneBenchmarks.com) and give it a shot on your Fascinate? I need to find out if it's the app or the phone that's to blame.

In advance, many thanks!
[Fascinate General] rqdxrocket:
I just ran it and I got this on my fascinate

Productivity Index (CPU) score of about 655 and a Gaming Index (GPU) score of about 2105
[Fascinate General] seanol1:
Facinate running JT's latest voodoo kernel, mashed together ROM and DJ05.

Results:

Failed at i/o

Edit: Finished this time at Productivity Index of 647 and Gaming Index of 2488

Quadrant score of 1658

Hope that helps,

Sean
[Fascinate General] Jaredsk74:
Alright I'm running the DL09 Modem and Rom with UL Test 5 1.3 GHz Voodoo Kernal.

Productivity: 963

Games: 3257

Quadrant: 1953
[Fascinate General] imnuts:
Running a test kernel with voodoo I built from JT's source I got a Productivity score of 746 and a Gaming score of 2576. Quadrant is usually somewhere around 1700-1800.
[Fascinate General] deadcaper:
I ran it a few times on mine (rooted but otherwise stock):

PI GI

649 2072

595 1692

I rebooted and ran again and things got worse but consistent:

PI GI

200 415

202 423

207 432

206 433
[Fascinate General] neh4pres:
738 and 2531

Running stock dj05 rom and jt's voodoo 5
[Fascinate General] Electrofreak:
Awesome, thanks for the scores guys! I'm guessing rqdxrocket's score was stock? It's looking more and more like something is wrong with my friend's NAND chip on his Fascinate. (See EDIT.) Maybe we'll drop a custom ROM on it and see how it fares. I'll also run some catlogs to see if it's got bad blocks.

Worst case scenario we'll flash it back to stock and bring it in for replacement. My friend is having a rough time of it; got his Fascinate and then right after someone changed lanes into him and screwed up his car. Now on top of that to have a high-end smartphone producing scores that would make an HTC Hero hang its head in shame has gotta be tough to bear.

EDIT -

Your last scores are about what he was seeing. Interesting... it's looking like something else is at play here...
[Fascinate General] voghan:
Ok I got some weird results. Ran two tests then rebooted phone.

624/1898

608/1809

235/491

231/488

I'm not sure why the second set of scores are so bad. Looked like it was mostly the io tests taking too long. I'm running the DL09 leaked rom and kernel.
[Fascinate General] Jrex:
627 - 1894

627 - 1844

DI01, stock, binged, and bloated! Hope you figure it out...

Edit: I seen where other people where scoring significantly less after a reboot, so I tried rebooting and these are my results:

195 - 374

195 - 389
[Fascinate General] Electrofreak:
Yep, something after a reboot is causing a drastic plummet in scores. I've actually pointed the author of the Smartbench 2010 application to this thread, so maybe he'll know what's causing this to happen.
[Fascinate General] imnuts:
How soon after a reboot are people waiting to run the test? I've noticed that if I try to do much of anything before media scanner runs 2-3 times (or however many it is), things seem to run very slow.
[Fascinate General] Jrex:
I waited somewhere between 5 and 10 minutes before running the bench again, just to make sure everything was loaded.
[Fascinate General] TheSonicEmerald:
I got 675 in PI and a 2060 in GI.

Rockin' DJ05, Minimal Icognito, Blazing with Eclair
[Fascinate General] deadcaper:
I also waited 5-10 minutes after rebooting. Also tried uninstalling, rebooting, reinstalling and still getting low scores (PI 200s, GI 430s)
[Fascinate General] Electrofreak:
So now 3 guys have been able to duplicate the problem. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens to everyone with a Fascinate. Very strange.

On the plus side, I can tell my friend that his phone is fine. Now, hopefully we can get the benchmark fixed so that you guys can use it!
[Fascinate General] Munchys:
My first test is kinda disappointing.

PI 338

GI 1352

Second

PI 346

GI 1460

So I am not sure whats going on.

I'm running AOSP 1/03 version. Running the first voodoo kernel. Maybe some mods to the kernel will help?
[Fascinate General] doobieking420:
stockies

all stock, baby momma @

First run

658

2094

Second run

680

2163

fresh boot @ 5 mins

First

228

459

Second (and some kronik)

206

407
[Fascinate General] TheSonicEmerald:
Test with voodoo5 1.3ghz test 5 kernel.

PI: 970

GI: 3370

Rockin' DJ05, Minimal Icognito, Clocked at 1.3Ghz
[Fascinate General] tripacer99:
DJ05, jt superclean 0.9 w/voodoo and lagfix

1st run:

PI: 752

GI: 2596

2nd run: Did not show results for some reason. Just a black screen after the jellyfish test.

3rd run: Same as above.

4th run: Again. What the heck?

5th run: -___-

6th run: This is actually kind of funny now.

~I'm gonna reboot, since this is going nowhere fast.

1st run: Black screen again.

2nd run: And again.

3rd run: Nope.

4th run: Zilch.

I think i'll stop for now.
[Fascinate General] Acei:
Hi guys,

I am the author of Smartbench 2010. When I developed this app during the past couple of months, I actually had Samsung Vibrant in hand (as well as N1, G2 and Optimus One), but never observed this behavior. Looks like the problem is definitely related to I/O test. Very strange since all I'm doing is creating a buffer full of data, write, then read back. Repeat for two different buffer sizes. Nothing fancy really.

Do other (non-I/O related tests) run consistently (i.e. about the same run time) for you guys?

I'm open to suggestions if anyone can offer some.
[Fascinate General] Acei:
Oh and another question for those who are experiencing the black-screen - do you have an internet connection open at the time when you experience this issue?

Thanks!
[Fascinate General] Holliday:
DL09 Modem

.9 Superclean

Latest JT non-voodoo test kernel

1st try after reboot:

197

403

2nd try:

187

376

3rd try went into airplane mode:

After 3 tries in a row I gave up. All blackscreens.
[Fascinate General] papstar:
First run:

Black screen

After that I turned Wi-Fi off and got:

654 2047
[Fascinate General] mrquestion90:
Well I did run the same test 4 times just to help get more information out there.

1.

Productivity - 592

Games - 1574

This test was done after leaving my phone on for the last two days. Wifi on. Noticed that it ran pretty fast.

2.

Prod. - 521

Game - 1501

Info same as above. Wifi off.

3.

P - 197

G - 388

This was done after a phone reset and wifi off. The test ran slower and jellyfish and tunnel both cut off. Also IO took an incredibly long time...

4.

P - 193

G - 379

Same info as above except wifi was on.

This reminds me of my comp which is pretty slow after restarting versus leaving it on for a few days.
[Fascinate General] sageDieu:
I'm on a mesmerize, I get the black screen issue. I emailed the support admin and he said it's only been an issue with Galaxy S phones and asked me the same questions as Acel above.

Sent from my Galaxy S.
[Fascinate General] Acei:
Yes, the "Admin" and Acei are one of the same. :D

The main question I am after, is whether black screen only occurs AFTER experiencing really slow I/O runs or not. Just after tha Jellyfish run, the app will try to load an Admob banner, hence my question on whether people had their internet enabled or not. Normally, this is only a 1-2 sec delay.

Come to think of it - for those who experienced black screens, did you even see the menu screen with "Display the result chart / Run the tests again" option?

Thanks again, everyone.
[Fascinate General] imnuts:
People may get a black screen on some/most roms as many have a hosts file to prevent ads from showing up. Maybe that is causing the black screen issue.
[Fascinate General] Acei:
Oh that's unfortunate, so it may not even be related to the benchmark app code? :D

THE question to ask here is, are there anyone who managed to make a normal run (i.e. the entire tests took about 1 min or less) and still ended up with the black screen? (If this is yes, then it is probably Admob ad related, which should be easy to fix, but if no, then I need to dig deeper).
[Fascinate General] Electrofreak:
Well, I've got an ad-blocker built into the kernel on my Epic 4G and haven't had this problem, though I suppose the ad server routing could be handled differently on Sprint vs Verizon.
[Fascinate General] Acei:
Could be. Plus Admob doesn't always return any ads, so it may or may not show up as issues.

The real test is if anyone experienced a normal run and hit the black screen.
[Fascinate General] mrquestion90:
Yeah when my phone would lock the screen would go black.for about 5 scnds then would come back to the io test.
[Fascinate General] sageDieu:
Mine simply goes straight to black, I do have adfree installed so that may be an issue. Along with some other things. Should I turn that off?

Sent from my Galaxy S.
[Fascinate General] sageDieu:
Problem solved! I went into my adfree app and hit "Revert" and then ran the test again, and it worked! The performance score was disappointingly low, but the games index was higher than everything else in the list. :D

Sent from my Galaxy S.
[Fascinate General] Acei:
So is it the "adfree" that is causing the issue? I hope that is the case, then at least I can focus my effort in somehow "supporting" that... :)

But you guys don't experience any issues when you use other apps with ads, correct? This app potentially displays ads at two places - once on the initial screen with "Run/Exit" and the other place where you can select "Display chart/Re-run".
[Fascinate General] Electrofreak:
Honestly, I doubt it. My friend is using a stock Fascinate with no ad-blockers to get the "pitiful score" problem.

I took a video of the test running but I accidentally took it in HD, so it's 82 megs in size right now for a couple mins of video. :p

I'll trim it down, put it in the cloud and PM you a link.
[Fascinate General] Acei:
I'm thinking its a two separate problem. The slowdown problem is definitely a problem that needs looking further into. The blank screen one, on the other hand, might be related to the adfree. Just a guess.

Will look forward in seeing the video, thanks!
[Fascinate General] voghan:
I noticed the screen would stay black until step 1 of 5 was completed. Maybe you just need to display something before the io test starts.
[Fascinate General] Acei:
So the screen goes black after 'PI' test has been completed? Now that's strange. Or do you mean step 1 out of 5 within I/O test?
[Fascinate General] sageDieu:
Yeah I did seem to have the pitiful score issue, at least on performance. But at least I can finish the test.

Sent from my Galaxy S.
[Fascinate General] Acei:
Guys, a new version (v1.2) has been published. This version should fix the "blank screen" issue for those who are experiencing this while using ad blocker.

I've also made the APK file smaller, and now the device graph scrolls!

Note: Still looking into the performance issue on _some_ of the Galaxy S devices...
[Fascinate General] Protonus:
Ran the new build a few times with no issues. Got:

769/2832. This is with all apps killed with built in task killer (so not everything or nearly as much as a system panel close all). Specs on my phone in my sig.

Ran it a few more times, never got that high again. Most of the time it was around 650/1900.
[Fascinate General] nmyeti:
764/2781 with Dl09 clean .4 + voodoo kernel, still have the occasional blacked out screen at the end of it.
[Fascinate General] Acei:
Could you describe exactly where is that "at the end of it"?

Thanks.
[Fascinate General] nmyeti:
It finishes the last test and then instead of showing the screen that says "display results

test again"

the screen stays blank until i hit the back button which brings up the initial run benchmark screen.
[Fascinate General] ivorycruncher:
Okay, I finally took time to read this thread and play with Smartbench 2010. Here's the steps I went through, and the subsequent results. For the record, I'm running Adrynalyne's 12/30 Voodoo kernel and DL09 Super Clean 0.4 ROM.

1. Installed Smartbench from the Market and ran for the first time (700+/2300+...sorry, lost original screenshot somehow, don't have exact numbers)

2. Immediately reran the test, got black screen during GLJellyfish

3. Hit back, ran again (665/2055)

4. Ran again, and again, black screen during GLJellyfish

5. Completely closed Smartbench, opened it, ran once more (647/1984)

6. Ran again, and again black screen

7. Rebooted, waited a few minutes for startup processes to settle down, ran again (776/2867)

8. Ran again, and yet again, black screen during GLJellyfish

9. Hit back and ran one last time (718/2378)

So, as you can see, I can consistently cause the the black screen during the GLJellyfish on every other run of Smartbench, no idea why. Also, while I haven't been able to reproduce the really low scores some people have, it appears that my numbers go down after every run, but rebound right after a reboot, which doesn't surprise me (same thing happens with Quadrant).

So, that's my testing so far. I hope it's useful to somebody.
[Fascinate General] ivorycruncher:
Oh, and I'm not entirely sure whether the black screen actually occurs at the end of the GLJellyfish test, or partway through it. I know one time I saw a very brief flash of some kind of popup before it went to a black screen, as if the test had finished, but other times it seemed like the test went to a black screen much more quickly than it takes for the test to complete whenever it completes successfully, as if it quit halfway through. But I honestly have no way of knowing.
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
I didnt read through all of this, but the reason you see a difference is due to the type of nand used.

Epic uses OneNand which is faster than what we use, Movinand.
[Fascinate General] Acei:
I haven't checked with you guys for a while. I've published few new updates since the above comments. Is the "black screen" still happening?

Also, the "slowing down" bug (as you run the test in succession) is fixed as well. The results should be much more consistent.

I am still unsure about some of you getting MUCH lower results than others on the overall score though.
[Fascinate General] Jrex:
Testing now! :)

Edit #1: Downloaded and ran, got 650+ / 2100+ consecutively

Edit #2: Reboot waited about 5 minutes, bench makes it through the tunnel, goes black for 15 - 20 seconds, comes back with small file write which took forever, screen goes black for about 15 - 20 seconds, comes back with large file write which took forever, goes good from there on out with a score of 151/298... 201/417... 197/402 :(

DL09 stock!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Biornus:
Hi people, I have screwed up majorly.

I own a rooted froyo stock HTC Desire and got tired of seeing the update notice on the small OTA updates HTC have made. Since my phone was rooted, I was unable to actually install it normally because it would give me some error and exit as you all know.

When I finally had enough, I downloaded the update and renamed it to update.zip, placed it in the root directory of my SD card and proceeded to install it through Clockworkrecovery. In the beginning it proceeded as normally by installing, but somewhere it screwed up and I was stuck in the infinite reboot thing. The HTC logo would appear and seconds later it would turn off and start over again.

I then tried to boot into clockwork recovery to run the update again, but alas I couldnt. It now says "E:Cant open /cache/recovery/command" now I am stuck in the normal recovery system.

Is there any way out of here? I have tried to download Cyanogenmod and rename to update.zip and install, but file verification fails. I know it was a longshot.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smirge:
I dont think it's bricked....

"All" you have to do is get an official RUU - put it in fastboot mode and run the RUU

That way u get a unrooted stock rom.

After that u can root again using Unrevoked and get the rooted 2.29.405.5 rom

the one i use is : RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.2_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_151783_signed.exe

http://www.multiupload.com/UOWLL86GVB
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Biornus:
Mange tak!

I am downloading the official RUU now, but just to be sure:

I enter fastboot mode by powering the phone on, holding volume down. Then I connect the phone to my computer and run the .exe?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smirge:
yup - that should be it... :D

og velbekomme :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RaymondErasmus:
Just make sure your desire isnt branded, else running the WWE RUU wont work.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Biornus:
Well its not branded, but got another issue.

I only have access to a computer with Windows 7 and got error 170. I have been searching and all the guides to bypass it requires the phone to be turned on and connected to HTC Sync, for above reasons I am not able to do so. :(

Any ideas?

Edit: Seems like I got it working, used this guide to correct my USB drivers.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=776056
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smirge:
So it's working now ? u got your phone back ?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] wbexpress:
Is there an app that actually works, to keep the phone screen on during a call for longer than like 10 seconds? (Shake Awake does NOT work, it used to, but apparently it doesn't like FroYo). TIA...
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] thedudejdog:
cyanogenmod dialer has that option.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] kolyan:
Maybe tasker can do it
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Insomaniac10:
yup, sure can
[HTC Excalibur] veveve:
Any one know the way to enjoy .SWF file in webpage like youtube or mp3.zing.vn!

Skyfire isn't work in my country, anyone know the way to play flash on opera mobile or IE mobile

sr for my bad english, i from vietnamese and i use google translate
[HTC Excalibur] Hakim Rahman:
you can find and get youtube through http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=312695 :):)

I hope you find it
[HTC Excalibur] Mr. Clown:
Coreplayer is another app that you can use.

I will encourage you to search a bit more. On that note, thread closed.