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[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I don't disagree with you on the carrier points - it's the reason why a lot of us stick with Sprint; but you got to be absolutely naive to think that phones like the Atrix are not significantly better than the EVO. It's not even close. GPU wise, it leaves the EVO in the dust and that's something you'll be able to see with your own eyes the minute you use it. Storage wise, 16 GB will keep you busy for a long, long time. Battery wise, talk time on the Atrix is 9 hours compared to the 6 on the EVO due to the 1920 mAh stock battery. Display wise, you'll have 35% more pixels, making web reading that much more clear under far away zoom levels. These are all things you'll will be able to notice immediately. The dual core CPU + 1 GB RAM while not immediately important or noticeable will just ensure that the phone doesn't get left behind for a long while.
[EVO 4G General] kd0axs:
Yeah, the Atrix is the only one I would really see as an upgrade to the EVO. Unfortunately, it's crippled by ATT's wonderful network. By the time us EVO owners start getting our upgrades, I'm sure Sprint will have something equal or better.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
That's always how it works.

Plus, none of these phones are even available yet.

Likely that Sprint's releases will be around the same time as these devices.

Just because they announced first doesn't matter.

Relax.
[EVO 4G General] Yahwarrior:
I don't need another phone.The Evo is has all the power I need. However I do think that they need to make a tablet version of the Evo with dual cores and call it the HTC Lightspeed. I would buy it in a heartbeat!
[EVO 4G General] patelkedar91:
Just wait until CTIA and Sprint will come around with a new phone.

It always happens.

Instinct --> Palm Pre --> Evo.

Though the Instunk and the Pre was okay only after homebrew, the Evo could hold its own.

I just want an updated GPU.

Knowing Sprint though, they probably teamed up with a big company to release something......... big.
[EVO 4G General] Bigjim1488:
Its all about what makes you happy. I traded my epic for an evo and I couldn't be happier. As long as the community stays strong then this phone will keep going. I am sure in another ten months when my contract comes up I will probably go get another phone but nothing will make me run out and buy one before then
[EVO 4G General] creyc:
Hey it could be worse, you could have an iPhone :D

Then your phone is outdated and may as well throw it out when apple says it's time for the next version..
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
If you live in area with good coverage go for it wish sprint would just upgrade their 3g like tmonile did and save this wimax stuff for mifis and stuff
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
Sprints has always been the one to come out with the next big thing, first to have 3G, first to have 4G (or pre-4G at least)
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
tmobile has the best rates, it's gsm "sim card" so i can use any gsm phone i want. plus they currently have a great lineup of phones. i think tmobile has come along way since i used them in the early 2000 era.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
sprint gives good discounts, that's about it. the 4g coverage just isn't there yet plus their customer service sucks. took me an arm & a leg to finally get my evo upgrade.

rumor has it the next "big" device to hit sprint this june/july with be a new high end webos device & tablet.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Not gonna happen.

At least not without an Evo 2 (or some other sweet Android phones released along side)

Well that is, unless Sprint wants to end the upswing they're on.

Webos is NOT the route to go for Sprint or any carrier that is trying to grow.

There's just no demand for it.

Well that is besides for the few hundred (at max a thousand) users over at precentral.net

It might be a route Verizon could take since their growth potential is less and they have less to risk but Sprint taking that risk would just be foolish.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
yes it will happen. hp has a BIG announcement coming in early febuary. sprint will more than likely partner with them again. and for your info the evo2 is fictional with no real backing saying it will ever happen.

the only thing verizon is interested in is their upcoming iphone version. it would make sense for sprint to get the new webos phone first.
[EVO 4G General] 18th letter:
I already feel like the EVO already does MORE than enough.
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
The EVO is so 2010, thats my saying now. Its still currently a powerful phone and IMO still the best phone available for sprint.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I don't think you understand...I'm saying it shouldn't happen...certainly not without Android phones released along side that compare, or beat, what's been announced thus far.

The EVO 2 is pretty much inevitable. It may be a different name but considering its the most successful smartphone in sprint history...yeah

Take the BIG down to "big" because there's no guarantee they won't just say "...in the coming months..."

At any rate another gamble isn't what Sprint needs right now.

They took a chance on the pre ...bad choice

Wimax ...who even knows..

They don't need to waste time and customers on another risky venture that has no real world demand
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
The Pre used to be the most successful smartphone in Sprint history. Where was the Pre Plus or the Pre 2? Anything can happen. If Sprint has proven anything, it's their persistence to **** up.
[EVO 4G General] klbjr:
Maybe not WebOS but they are getting the Blackberry 4G Playbook which looks & sounds sick.

http://now.sprint.com/playbook/

Sent from my new BFF...Evo 4G that is!
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
You need a BB to use all of the playbooks features. Sounds great.
[EVO 4G General] piscesjoey:
I can't even stand Blackberries, but this is f'n sweet! As far as the EVO being outdated already, nah thats foolish. It still has a LOT of life left in it. This is the first phone that I can see myself keeping for over a year, maybe more. The new Android phones (Atrix, Bionic, Optimus 2X) does look sick, but I'm not really pressed for them right now. Sprint has been on the ball with this phone as far as keeping it updated and such, and I'm very sure that they will serve us with an official Gingerbread build soon (if not, there is always Cyanogen). Sprint is still making bukoo money off the EVO, & I don't see them bringing their biggest seller to a halt anytime soon.
[EVO 4G General] spurnout:
The Evo is still fast enough to me. The only thing that I wish I had was a Tegra 2! Then all the games would run a lot better. I bought Dungeon Defenders hearing it's such a great game and I can't even play it. I'll probably have to wait til I upgrade from the Evo...lol.
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
nahh dont say that man, anyone but HP. Everything they make has turned into garbage over the past couple of years
[EVO 4G General] bob13bob:
comuter updates are slowing down from what they once were. phone update are coming out at a crazy speed.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Dude.....

First off...there is a Pre 2.... Sprint passed on it and it's probably one of the smartest decisions they've ever made...

Sprint didn't **** up on this one at all...at all...

The Pre may have been the "most successful smartphone in Sprint history" but it was also one of the highest returned for replacement phone's in history too.

I know, I had 12 dude.

12.

I'm still on my first Evo.

I've never had more than two replacements in two years [having had a cell phone for 8 years]... 12 in 12 months...

So yeah, Sprint made the right decision not risking it on the Pre 2.

We all know who is blamed when a phone's build quality is bad...the carrier.
[EVO 4G General] renizo:
You all could say its outdated but its really not. The evo could do has much as any phone out there right now. Did we forgot not everybody got 4g yet but we do and new phone comes out and still no 4g. Some phone dont even have a front camera. My evo is one of the best phones i had and happy with it and ill just upgrade when Evo 2 hits the street.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
From a technology stand point the Evo is aged...

That doesn't mean that it's not still a good phone...
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I know there was a Pre 2, considering that I mentioned the Pre Plus by name I thought you'd realize that. My point is that they skipped on the Plus despite it's near term success. The two was more understandable but you get my point. Sprint will ride what ever hype train it can - a Pre HD would fit the bill.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Most of these phones come with the same psuedo 4G and FFC plus a whole lot more. In truth, the EVO's key internals (GPU/CPU) were already pretty aged on it's release date and you want to compare it to next generation hardware? It's out dated, son. Whether or not that makes it a bad phone is up to you - but one things for certain, it's not capable of running at the same level as these phones.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Uh the Pre Plus is NOT the Pre 2?...

I don't know what else to say to this...

WebOS is a total failure to this point.

At the release of it the marketshare for Webos + Palm OS was 7%.

With the release of WebOS it merely didn't fall for a month for the first time in a few years...[then started to fall after that month]

Marketshare for Palm OS/WebOS was last reported at 1.3%[complete and utter non-existence]

Sprint doesn't need failures.

They need what Verizon is doing.

Verizon is riding on the success of Android.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
No offense, but your reading comprehension is very poor. I never said the Pre 2 was the Pre Plus, I thought that I was pretty clear on that. [Now that I look at what I wrote I could see how you got confused, but still, I mention both separately.]

Anyway, the problem with your view is that it's a consumer view, look at the situation as a carrier. A EVO 2 would be just another Android phone and at this point it will be incredibly hard to differentiate it from the other carrier's Android phones. To make matters worse, HTC depends on Qualcomm for their chips, and their first gen dual cores are going to be a generation behind NVIDIA's, OMAPs, and Samsung's dual core chips. Either way, if Sprint does manage to lock down exclusivity with a supposed super WebOS phone, it'd be a much more attractive position for them. No one would have a similar product. That's something that would be more important to Sprint than just another good Android phone. Of course there's no reason why not to release both under that hypothetical situation but we all know how Sprint is with variety.
[EVO 4G General] piscesjoey:
I can believe u went through 12 Pres, & I'm not even gonna mention the major problem of the Pre when it comes to trying to activate them & getting your Palm user account set up on them!
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I simply misunderstood you.

Here's the issue with what you're saying...

What good is exclusivity on something that no one wants?

They need Android phones and maybe some WM7 phones, that's what they need.

Those are the two that are doing the best. [Of course Android by far over WM7 but they should have both]

WM7, which has been out for a month and a half, has more apps than WebOS does after 19 months.

I'm going to repeat that again.

WM7, which was released in November, has passed WebOS [which was released in June 09] in apps.

There's NO DEMAND, NO DEV INTEREST, in WebOS.

Thus, exclusivity is completely irrelevant to Sprint growing further.

EDIT: piscesjoey's post above me just furthers what I'm saying.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
We can argue this all we want but we'll get nothing out of it. It's all just opinions on what Sprint might do. But my opinion is that they'll be some pretty old executives in a office, most of which have absolutely no idea how good either of them actually are, they'll see how well the original Pre sold, look at a potential exclusivity deal and eventually decide that as the better business move.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I completely disagree and I think Sprint's unwillingness to carry the Pre Plus and the Pre 2 proves this wrong.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I could argue that it being on Verizon and AT&T made it that way. If Sprint releases 2-3 high end phones a year why bank on one that is on two other Carriers? A exclusive one on the other hand is much more appealing. If you look at it that way, the EVO 2 becomes less attractive.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I don't think that Sprint's unwillingness to carry a WebOS product after the original Pre has anything to do with what anyone else is doing.

It has to do with the black eye Sprint took from every customer that made the mistake of buying a Pre.

12 Pres dude, and that's not unheard of.

Even most "precentral" users, the king of loving on the Pre, completely admit to 3+ replacements.
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
I had a Pre without any out issues for about a year or 2 before I went Android. It still works now, I mess around with it from time to time.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
You are one of a very few.

Seriously.
[EVO 4G General] tmacgarris6727:
The evo is not even close to being left behind no one really needs a dual core in a phone lets be real people yes a hd screen is needed but all that other stuff we just want but do not need
[EVO 4G General] shadowxaero:
Lol think about how long it took developers to get out batter life were it is now on our Evo's. A dual core processor, hell we will be lucky to get 4 or 5 hours out it ;-)
[EVO 4G General] OgremustCrush:
It's getting perhaps a tad dated on the processor(mainly the gpu portion) and perhaps internal storage space. All the other phones are just now catching up to many of its other features however, such as the front facing camera, 4G connectivity, and the kickstand. Besides, even if it is getting outdated, the Sprint Premier program means that many of us launch day purchasers will be able to get the new hotness 5 months from now anyway.
[EVO 4G General] OgremustCrush:
I couldn't go a day without issues on the Pre's buggy hardware and its janky laggy-ass OS. I was on my fifth Pre by the time the EVO came out. I didn't even bother trying to sell that thing for a decent amount, I just sent it to Gazelle to get it out of my life.
[EVO 4G General] Bamba1260:
I threw mine at a wall because it was pissing me off :) Next day I got my beautiful Evo from a Guy who was at the I/O and couldn't be happier.

As for the new phones coming out (not till summer, I might add), the Atrix is the only one that caught my eye. But, as was said earlier, AT&T ruins the phone for me. So I'm content with waiting to see what Sprint has in store for us.

*fingers crossed*
[EVO 4G General] HondaCop:
I can already see kernels coming out claiming AMAZING BATTERY LIFE, by disabling one core and ppl jumping on the bandwagon and proclaiming these devs as Gods.

PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
I think people, maybe just due to lack of knowledge about the multi-core system, over-exaggerate the probable battery usage of these dual-cores.

I'm not gonna sit here and suggest that they are going to get 50 hours of constant usage or something but it's likely they will get better than the Evo does.

The Tegra 2 is a 40 nm chip.

That's significantly smaller than the 65 nm in the Evo. [the smaller the less power usage, generally]
[EVO 4G General] abmone:
If this is my first contract with sprint do I get an upgrade after a year also?

Someone mentioned premier something is there a certain amount of time you need to be with sprint to get annual upgrades?
[EVO 4G General] detusueno:
Right out of the box the Atrix has 30% more talk time battery life than the EVO. Since Android and smart phone tasks in general aren't CPU intensive, a dual core processor will actually be more power effecient at accomplishing the same tasks. Linux, which Android's core is based off of, already supports it so expect bettery battery life when using your phone "normally." The Tegra 2 also has GPU acceleration of Flash so one of Androids biggest power hogs will be tamed from the jump. Later on HW acceleration from honeycomb will further improve battery life. Dual cores will extend life by a ton even without custom kernels.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
the pre is a damn nice phone now with the 1ghz overclock that is out.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
12 replacements? seriously dude, you must of been holding it wrong! :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
if they release a webos 2.0 device with specs like the evo id be all over it. of course im leaving sprint in a few months anyways. ;)
[EVO 4G General] mbaseball3:
I'm feeling a bit of deja vu with sprint.-----Flash back----- year 2009, during ces, everyone on the forum is freaking out waiting for sprints 'huge announcement' for dual core android or equivalent smart phones.....yeah, that speech didn't come. Soon after though we got word of our now dearly departed htc hero. I can remember all the pissy comments; omg f sprint I'm jumping ship, sprint sucks, sprint doesn't care about its customers, yada yada. Lol. Any who, here we are 2010....sprints only announcement; the 4g shift. No mention of dual core phones, no mention of Evo's big bro. Yet the same I'm gonna jump ship comments continue. Lol you guys are funny. Cause I bet maybe a couple left last year with no announcement. And I'm sure even fewer will leave this year. All talk. Plus the Evo is still badass. But as sprint has shown us they are not consistent, we have no clue for what's on the horizon. Enough of my ramblings. Just had a I've been here before moment.

Sent from my Evo
[Desire General] Afro Az:
Copy my apps from one SD card to another? I just bought a 16gb class 4 micro sd for my Desire to replace the stock 4gb class 2. I copied everything from the 4gb to the 16gb via my computer.

Now it seems that none of the apps are showing up as usable, they are still on the SD card under applications but I can't launch any of them.

Am I missing something, is there a way to do it without copying them to my phone in stages and then re-copying them to my new SD card?

Apologies if this has been answered in another thread, it's just whenever I search I get threads about A2SD which don't answer my question at all.
[Desire General] K900:
Copy .android_secure folder over.

Sent from a piece of ginger bread
[Desire General] wilbur-force:
no expert but it might depend if you are using A2SD .....

easiest way would be to do a titanium backup of the apps then copy the backups from one SD to another. Then just restore again ....;)
[Desire General] Afro Az:
I'll give it a shot after dinner, I tried copying the secure folder, but to no avail. Titanium backup seems like my only option.
[Desire General] Nitin985:
Nand backup with your other SD card and copy backup to new card, then restore with new card
[Desire General] Afro Az:
It turns out I didn't actually copy the .android_secure to the root of the memory card. Derp. Thanks guys. It's sorted now.
[HD2 Accessories] gastrella:
hi everyone there some one who can show me a good docking station, maybe with the slot for the charging of a second battery? ?
[HD2 Accessories] detlefd:
i dont know where u from but i've bought this one on amazon.de

and i'm really satisfied with it.

it's solid and the HD2 fits in perfect, but it has no slot to load a second

battery

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00332NFXG/ref=oss_product
[HD2 Accessories] s_from_hell69:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/ppc-techs-usb-cradle-battery-charger-htc-hd2-usukeuaus-194466/

:)

http://www.pixmania.com/it/it/4725245/art/ora/usb-cradle-battery-charge.html
[HD2 Accessories] smeddy:
Sorry for being link-lazy, but http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/ have a good selection of HD2 equipment, and I have had good experience with them.

(However ignore the 'magic slip mat' which claims to hold your phone through stickiness. It works well with some phones but not with our beloved :)
[HD2 Accessories] Svartedal:
I use this one, and its perfect in every way.

cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TOUCH-HD2-Docking-Charger-Power-/170582699588?pt=AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item27b7856e44
[HD2 Accessories] Banshee2400:
Cheers

Banshee
[HD2 Accessories] struppi1963:
http://www.amazon.de/USB-Dockingsta...r_1_24?s=ce-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1296298777&sr=1-24

I use this one, and its verry good.
[HD2 Accessories] stevedebi:
That URL is for an HTC Desire...
[HD2 Accessories] SimonOnline2000:
This one is even with sound. But I don't have it yet and there could be a problem with the US t-mobile HD2.

http://cgi.ebay.com/battery-charger...Accessories&hash=item19bddffe09#ht_2350wt_934
[HD2 Accessories] Dende2k2:
hmmmm thats weird i wonder what u would need the audio jack for
[HD2 Accessories] Asquared:
For those people who want to plug in headphones to listen to music on their phone. However, I saw this charger a number of months ago, and I remember people who purchased it were complaining that they weren't getting stereo sound from attached headphones, but Mono.

And, to boot, the ad states plainly "This cradle will not fit T-Mobile HD2 phone." This is most likely because the US and European versions of the HD2 are not exactly the same size. Luckily, there's a 30 day money back guarantee...
[HD2 Accessories] halx:
Make one: http://www.instructables.com/id/HTC-HD2-Smartphone-Makeshift-Charging-Cradle-in-10/
[HD2 Accessories] SoundSurfer:
I've bought this one:

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-charger-ac-power-adapter-for-htc-hd2-100-240v-42725

It's working great.
[HD2 Accessories] Dorianking:
If you have a previous iPod dock, you can convert it using this cable.

cablejive.com/universal_dock_adapter.html
[HD2 Accessories] ElaineD:
TMOUS HD2?
[HD2 Accessories] SoundSurfer:
No, european.
[HD2 Accessories] geronemo:
Hi,

Does anyone know of a landscape version of the dock, because my hd2 will look amazing running android in landscape mode.

thanks.
[HD2 Accessories] MAMiiX:
amazon i think
[HD2 Accessories] geronemo:
already tried amazon, the onces i found were only portrait mode and they look ugly as hell.
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] maaz_obaid:
hi.

i changed my SD card a few days back. after changing the card, i flashed phone with cynogen mod 6.1. now the problem is that gallery does not displays the images and videos that i copy/download to sd card. same is the case with music player. music player does not displays the music files present in sd card. :(

Can anybody help please....??????

sorry if this is in wrong section or if this has already been asked...
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] Hakim Rahman:
you try to install again your music player, this use :);)
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] maaz_obaid:
i will try it right away... thnxx

i'll let u know of the outcome.
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] maaz_obaid:
not working... :(

but i managed the music problem with poweramp music player. :)

but the pictures/videos problem is still there.... :(
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] argeoff:
If you don't mind the 2D gallery, try this.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=885888
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] maaz_obaid:
Thank you very much for the suggestion. But I have tried it already. Is there any gallery application with option of custom folder scaning..?? Like, for music problem I installed poweramp player and ran a custom scan.
[General Questions and Answers] jeffstoic:
I love the ablility to download an app specific to the forum or the droid x forum. There is a motorcycle forum that i would love to get a mobile app for but i don't think it exists yet. Is there anyone that can design one for the site? Is is impossibly complex to design, the likes of which a semi computer savy guy could not complete?

Thanks for any imput.

The forum is called yamahafz1oa for anyone that is interested.
[General Questions and Answers] jeffstoic:
So no thoughts on the matter?
[General Questions and Answers] pulser_g2:
Tapatalk can be installed on most forums and the app isn't too expensive for users.