yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Apps and Games] casanovafrankenstein:
CM7 is the lightest rom i know of, only about 95 mb. About 350 mb ram free and boot and never seems to get laggy no matter how log it's up or how many apps I've use. I also really like the lock screen gestures. At this point the battery life isn't so good though.

Might the problem have been a problem while uploading the program to Android Market? B/c after the latest update the problem disappeared at the same time for two different uses and you didn't make any more changes. I didn't make any other changes to my system either

Oh also the problem with checking both use boot scripts and re-apply settings is gone.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Everything's possible I suppose, still the last 2 updates were about the manifest content containing a shortcut definition not being supported on 2.1 and some older versions, hence preventing installation of the app.

Second update to fix something I broke in the first update.

Anyway, as long as it works.
[Android Apps and Games] stuart0001:
I'm using leedroids latest and am having a couple of issues.

When I tick then untick the force both CPUs option the 2nd CPU doesn't activate even under heavy load. Eg the image attached was whilst running cf bench. Ticking again reeactivates it ok.

The other is that after using the same force CPU option, after a while the CPUs stay at max until I change governor to anything else. The only way to stop this appears to be rebooting and not touching the force CPU option
[Android Apps and Games] stuart0001:
A couple more observations. When you toggle the use boot script it immediately disables the 2nd core and when you have enable both cores ticked you don't get any data on the graphs in the CPU tweak screen
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
On Leedroid's ROM (I'm using it at the moment), both CPUs are always on. Also noticed that on recent kernels (lee, faux) the online switch is actually permanent, eg not managed by kernel any longer! Thus you should use this force all cpu online with those kernel. It's already on!

What do you mean the 'CPUs stay at max'? The min freq = max freq or the actual CPU freq is maxed-out? In any case I'm currently unable to reproduce this... When I did see the current CPU freq being maxed-out, I just had to wait long enough to go back to normal. Was CPU load at 100% when this happened?

This happens if you have switched on the 'force CPU at boot' and then uncheck the boot script option, will be fixed in next update.

The other issue with no data appearing on the graphs is actually unrelated! It's the view that think it's 0 size for a while during the resize process. You should be able to reproduce that by turning device to landscape and back to portrait (I do). This one is quite hard, but I'll do my best to fix it in the next udpate.

Thank you very much for reporting those issue. This will help me improve the app.

Note: I'm currently checking other dual-core CPUs option to see if I can improve compatibility over the Sensation kernels. Might add an option to disable CPU1 when screen's off for example...
[Android Apps and Games] stuart0001:
Thanks for the response, much appreciated.

When I say max CPU I mean that its running at max freq at a low usage % I've attached a screen grab of this but haven't been able to reproduce it the last couple of hours despite it happening repeatedly much earlier today.

With the forced dual core issue. If I reboot with the option unticked I see both on. I tick it and it appears to be the same but if i untick it the 2nd core doesn't come back on at all so doesn't revert to the kernels default behavior.

Also, can you please explain the voltage time screen as attached because it indicates that both cores aren't in all the time do perhaps they are only when screen is on.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Yes indeed, when ticking 'force CPU' it's actually not affecting anything as it's already the default behavior on those kernels, but it's hard to tell at run time... Except by checking how many CPUs are on while CPU is low. But I'm working on it. Unticking the option, then disables CPU1 completely, which is the opposite of all other kernels I've seen, including stock kernels on the sensation or on other devices! :(

The second screenshot is actually the frequency times, not the voltage times... Nevertheless it always shows that CPU1 is less used... There is an option (set differently) that shutdown CPU1 on screen-off automatically, but I haven't yet verified it... It could simply means processes first use CPU0, and during standby and sleep mode, very little is going on...

Looing at the lowest frequency I'd say CPU1 goes off-line quite often, so yet the other option is probably active! That's why I plan to add an option to manage this manually too.
[Android Apps and Games] hitman4274:
when i force all cpus online, what frequency settings does it set second cpu to? the same as you set in tweaks or??? because on the evo 3d our cpus are asynchronous duals, so they can run at different frequencies at the same time.(rumored to be the reason why we tank quadrant scores, lol) so being able to set the cpus seperatly would be an addition that no other cpu apps have,

other than that its the best app for what it does out of all the apps that i have tried.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
The app will always sets both CPUs to run at the same frequency, the one you set in the CPU screen or in the tweaks (during screen-off).

Thanks, appreciate the feedback.
[Android Apps and Games] dingolino:
Hi 3c,

the setting

"when screen off"

and

"when screen off/in call"

is this setting changing the max frequenz?

so the cpu could run between the global min setting and the new max setting?

eg

the normal range is from 192 Mhz till 1,2GHz

and with this feature the the new range is

when screen is off:

192 MHz till 400MHz

and when in a call

192MHz till 600MHz?

Best regards

dingolino

PS: I installed in parallel setCPU because of the profile feature but now I am assuming that the above mentioned feature from System Tuner is something like 2 "simple" Profiles
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Yes, your assumptions are correct.

I don't use setCPU because it monitors the battery, thus consumes more for very little gain (IMO). That's why I made System Tuner originally to get a simple behavior consuming near-0 CPU...

Monitoring the battery requires receiving system events on a regular basis, and with all those battery monitor, cpu tweaker or OS monitors that all monitor the battery, that's actually killing the battery very quickly.

So I have one single app that monitors the battery and system tuner for everything else, and the pair consumes much less than the apps they both replace.
[Android Apps and Games] dingolino:
I agree completly to have as less system tweaking applications as possible running. In the meantime I freezed SetCPU (with System tuner ;)) and run only System Tuner for Battery I am using "Battery Indicator Pro" which is also claiming lowest battery drainage.

What I am still missing is to store on the 1st time usage the default voltage setting. Because there are many numbers on that page and after a while you cannot remember what default voltage was there for 594MHz clock speed.

I would find it useful to have a button to save the default numbers and restore all or a single number from the default saved file.

By having this possibility you add also the feature to have different voltage settings files and fine tune so on a better structual way the voltage setting.

At least users who want to invest time could do that and could share such a file to make sure that other could apply their finding without making typing mistakes.

Best regards,

dingolino
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
I was planning to had a 'restore default' button, which is actually available for any implementations but the VDD we have for the Sensation! This implementation doesn't provide default values in the first place, so System Tuner cannot be sure when it reads them the first time they are actual defaults!

Anyway, I'll keep this suggestion in mind, can be indeed very useful. Simply a save/load from file buttons, but no restore defaults on VDD implems.
[Android Apps and Games] c19932:
hi 3c,

I am using your pro app with the htc sensation faux kernel. New to the app so I have several questions...

1) if I want Max/min frequency settings and voltage settings applied at boot? which options do I have to check? Both "re-apply cpu settings" and the boot script option(the first option)?

2) why is the "disable oc deamon" greyed out for me?

thanks
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
1) CPU settings will reapply both frequencies and voltages settings. The boot script is a different method of applying the settings at boot, from a script, which usually runs sooner and more efficiently. But it's not supported on all ROMs, and sometimes may fail to reapply some settings because of later apps changing the settings again. Also note SD card is mounted very late on the Sensation, hence SD boot settings should not be used with the boot script option enabled.

2) because you don't have OC/Deamon installed on your ROM.
[Android Apps and Games] danner_416:
thanks,well give your app a try
[Android Apps and Games] Markus700:
Just bought the pro version. But download isnt starting. Stuck at "Download starting..."

Download of free version is ok. Tried downloading random apps: fine....

It´s just the pro version causing the error.

Already did some restarts and market cache/data resets.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Did you download another paid app? You should ask Google as I have no control on the downloading servers whatsoever. Also check your phone's date, it's known to cause issues.

I can see 4 other users with this issue at the moment! I cannot do anything about it but take the blames and watch helplessly. Very frustrating for all of us.
[Android Apps and Games] Markus700:
Other paid apps are working.. such as battery widget pro...

what about emailing the apk to those email@ wo have paid? or cant you see them ?
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Are you referring to Battery Monitor Widget Pro (couldn't find an app named the way you put it?).

I can't actually tell the difference between someone not being able to download and someone not connected to the net.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Did you check your phone's date by the way? Any errors on the date can prevent you from downloading new first-time purchase paid apps.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Hi 3c, lovin all the updates to your app, it continues to get better.

Question: Every time I boot my device the app is requesting superuser permissions. This was on a fresh install on a new device and none of the features were active - why is it doing this?
[Android Apps and Games] dertester123:
I really like the app!

There is so much usefull information in it and most of the features i would have to buy a dozen of other apps (the good ones) for :D

Just two questions:

When i go to tweaks => CPU

The is no data in the graphics.

The time range (x-axis) is scaled to 0seconds..

In the voltage tab, there is no data. I think its not useable on my rom/kernel/device?(HD2)
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
The app at "boot completion" should check its settings to see if it has anything to do.

Do you have a Sensation or Evo3D device? On such devices, the frequency, governors and many other files are unreadable after boot and the app will change their permissions the first time it tries to read them, hence requires SU permissions.

You probably also have a widget or notification showing?

Can you send me a screenshot of the CPU screen? I've prepared an update that should improve this screen... If you rotate the device a couple of times, doesn't it start showing something? There is an issue (can't remember if I fixed it in the last update, but it will be in the next) with the graphics as they believe they have 0 size quite often.

Voltage tab is not often supported by kernels, but if you have a HD2, there must be a kernel that supports tweaking those somewhere on XDA!

So I understand my app is quite cheap for all the thing it does ;) Glad you like it!
[Android Apps and Games] hitman4274:
I assure you this is not the case, it might have something to do with different kernals and mods, but CPU gauge pro shows max frequency for second CPU still at 1.2ghz.... When set in system timer to be at 1.6ghz... Still experimenting a bit, cause like I said could be kernal related however still felt buggy with second CPU on running stock kernal.. ill get back to u op

Sent from my clean sharp shooter
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
When you see CPU1 @ 1.2 in CPU gauge, what System Tuner says in the CPU screen? Does it show CPU1 @ 1.2?

If you have a Sensation and dual core is not permanent, there's no way to read CPU1 max frequency.

Anyway, I've made some tiny improvements that should be published today, so it should improve if applicable.
[Android Apps and Games] dertester123:
Here:

Seems like the times are the same :/

HD2 @ Hyperdroid CM7 2.3.5

//EDIT

Now i tried rotating:

-Seems wrong on landscape, cant scroll or something :/ (picture)

BUT

sometimes i see the graph.But one rotation later its gone again.

Hope this helps
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
The graph issue will be gone in the next update. Though the landscape mode still needs adjusting, maybe I'll resize the tab selector on top to save space, like in Battery Monitor.

As for the CPU1 freq issues, please re-check once the update is published.
[Android Apps and Games] brandall:
Thanks for letting me know. Yes, I have a Sensation and appreciate the file permission issues (and the disappearing ones!). I have no widget or notification, just spotted the superuser toast on boot. Keep up the good work!
[Android Apps and Games] hitman4274:
I have a EVO 3d, and on performance it sets CPU0 to 1.62ghz and CPU1( second core) to 1.18ghz to be exact which is stock max speed. Like I said could be kernal related cause that is how I overclocked to begin with as you know. So I'm looking into a stock kernal with overclock ability to see if this is the problem, great work on all the updates love the app

There is a kernal available to force second CPU online but it sets it to a specific frequency set up, which is bad for battery life, so i like to be able to click it on and run it as necessary when playing huge 3d games and such. Thanks for your awesome support

Edit:

Just checked out new update and we have success!

Sent from my clean sharp shooter
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Ok, I'll have a look, but I suspect the ap is checking at boot completion what it has to do and prepares the SU shell just in case... Will make sure it doesn't in a future update.

Got a Evo 3D too, and the MSM CPU or the kernel implementation was quite harder to cope with than others. Not sure why setting CPU0 doesn't also set CPU1 as on any other phones I've checked, but anyway, now the app will apply settings to all CPUs.

By the way, in the boot settings you can enable all CPUs to be online, it will use the same settings for all CPU, including the lower frequencies during screen-off. So that might be more useful than the CWM script provided with custom ROMs. At least it's easy to control.

I tried and didn't see much battery life differences. Actually I suspect CPU1 is switched off during standby by default (there is a setting that can be enabled/disabled for that too, so I'm trying to get it included in the app!)
[Android Apps and Games] casanovafrankenstein:
I think I figured it out. It has to do with letting the device sit for a few minutes after a new flash and rebooting before using. I had the same problem again with cm7.1 alpha 7. First time, setup right away on first boot. Voltages didn't stick. Reflashed, sit 5 minutes, reboot, setup, everyone works. Same zip files, rom, and kernal.
[Android Apps and Games] hitman4274:
So as I suspected it was a user error on my side based on the custom kernal I was running, I didn't check the the CPU frequencies before I flashed a stock( other than oc ability) kernal. But I try to stay away from CPU scripts and etc. Would rather have an app to accomplish the same task. Again thanks for your time and support

Sent from my clean sharp shooter
[Android Apps and Games] dingolino:
Hi 3c,

I would like to come back to my discussion about undervolting and the possibility to backup and restore a voltage table. I have left also a question in the bricked kernal thread (post #1266)

PukeDuke @ pocketpc.ch has started a thread about undervolting and the number he was able to achieve are looking quite interesting.

At 1,56GHz he has 120mV less than in the default bricked table.

Are you still considering such a feature for a future version of System Tuner to be able to save and restore the voltage table?

Best regards,

dingolino

http://www.pocketpc.ch/htc-sensation...anleitung.html

mhz / Spannung

192000: 812500

310500: 812500

384000: 812500

432000: 812500

486000: 812500

540000: 812500

594000: 825000

648000: 837500

702000: 862500

756000: 887500

810000: 900000

864000: 912500

918000: 912500

972000: 925000

1026000: 937500

1080000: 950000

1134000: 962500

1188000: 975000

1242000: 987500

1296000: 1012500

1350000: 1037500

1404000: 1062500

1458000: 1075000

1512000: 1087500

1566000: 1100000

Geändert von PukeDuke
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Yes it's still in the list, might not be as thorough as you asked for, but at least a basic save/restore from a single location.

I find it sad that the kernels dev did not implement the more 'standard' interface available on any other device, which includes the default values!

The app actually have a 'reset' button, but only shown with those more standard implementations!
[Android Apps and Games] dingolino:
>but at least a basic save/restore from a single location.

this would be quite helpfull!

Please allow a file dialog that we can change the filenames to have the option to have a number of tables.

>I find it sad that the kernels dev did not implement the more 'standard' >interface available on any other device, which includes the default values!

Have you asked show already? Normaly it looks like that he is quite open to ideas which makes sense.

Best regards,

dingolino
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
That's already more than a basic save/restore, but I'll see to it. Though I don't like the idea of a restore where you manually type the name of the file... Gets hard to use. I'll see to that when I develop it anyway. I want to implement a basic file browser, so might be a good time to do it.

Did ask all of them faux, show and lee. Only show bothered to PM me about it, but since no news yet, and I changed for an Evo 3D so i'm not really tracking what's happening there anymore. But if you get some news let me know, cause it should be supported as soon as it's available except if implementation is reverted compared to the 'standard'.
[Android Apps and Games] dingolino:
Sorry - my fault - I mean a file browser but when I store a file than I want to be able to type a filename which is "saying" something to me to be able to choose between the different tables

could you send me this "standard" definiton - or a link with it?

than I can ask.

Is the Evo 3D "better" than the sensation or just a 3D toy?

Best regards,

dingolino
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Here is a reference:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=12890065

If you check those kernel threads below, all of them use a uv table showing this:

<frequency> <default_volt> <current_volt>

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1020730

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=13277763

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=895825

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=17979510

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1170319

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1137595

etc...

I don't mind that the files are not the same as in the reference above, but the default voltage is always there.

I find it more "solid" in itself, like the case more. The battery driver seems a little better, more memory is nice, and out of the box better performance (4500 instead of 3500 in Antutu). Higher capacity battery too. So I think it's an improved Sensation, though same bug in battery driver with mA during standby!

Then the 3D looks like a toy definitely, i wish I could try it on a real TV, but don't want to buy a 3DTV with glasses. I tried Asphalt in 3D, looks great but they disabled the control by tilting the phone, hence control is so bad I went back to standard 2D!
[Android Apps and Games] TcG71:
Same here after complete fresh installation (Energy Sense 3.0 latest build 09-26-11 with stock kernel) and following automatic installation of System Tuner from market.

I didn't even open System Tuner on that ROM, but it asks for SU at next boot. Would be nice if it would ask only when boot settings are active.

By the way - tweak section looks much better now :)
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Thanks for the feedback, the SU request at boot will be gone in next update (if no boot settings are activated), the culprit was the cpu-boot protection checks.
[Android Apps and Games] Apnea123:
Excellent application, love it.

By the way, is there any FAQ or user guide for this application? I didn't find any.

Also quick question, is there a way to control startup apps using System Tuner.?

Thanks for your help
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Controlling start-up app is actually done through 'freezing' unwanted apps, as far as I know.

The FAQ/Help is available from the app settings (Online Help Pages) or directly here.
[Android Apps and Games] snerism:
@3c: my settings as follows..

Gov. = interactive

1.72GHz

192MHz

Re-apply CPU setiings = ticked

it'll stick for a while.. but, when i turn off the screen it'll not stick to my settings .. instead it will set back to..

Gov. = ondemand

1.51GHz

384MHz

is this normal? =)
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
You must have OC/deamon running! If you don't have any other CPU app, that's the only one often being installed with a ROM!

Can you check in the virtuous_oc and oc/deamon files located on your device? Maybe it's differently setup and System Tuner doesn't finds it to disable it?
[Android Apps and Games] snerism:
Thank you for your kind reply 3c! - I'm only using your System Tuner (which is pretty much really a magnificent app)

Afaik, I don't have virtuous_oc or oc/deamon installed/running on my device as I am loaded with Turge's King Cobra ROM.

Morever, even I switched from kAmma's Lightweight Kernel or m-deejay's Unity v2 kernel still of no avail..

=(
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Just a question, when you reboot (if you enable the 'reapply cpu settings') does it stick?

If not, I can only suspect the app's data permissions are messed up, hence it doesn't keep it's settings over reboot or screen-off ?

Also, is the app itself excluded from the auto-kill list (the default) ?

To solve the permission issue, you can do this trick:

- Backup System Tuner app using System Tuner obviously :).

- Restore only its settings (long-press the restore button).

This should fix any permission issues on its settings.

Did you try leedroid's kernel? I'm currently using it and it works fine! Should be the same for any kernel though!

If all fails, can you do this: Set max freq to a freq != 1.5, then screen-off, screen-on. I suppose the max freq will go back to 1.5.

Then open System Tuner log alone, wait until it completely loads, save it and PM it to me or attach it here. Then we can check what System Tuner has been doing or what went wrong.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Just one more question, just in case, did you full wipe before installing King's Cobra or did you overwrite a previous ROM? I'm using King's Cobra too and no issues here!

So all that remains is the app permissions, the logcat from the app should tell us more.
[Android Apps and Games] snerism:
>> No, it will not stick - tried several times vice-versa with different kernels too!

>> Absolutely, I exclude System Tuner.

>> I followed your instructions thoroughly but still of no avail.

>> 3 different kernels Kamma, m-deejay & leedroid.

>> Please see the attached herewith, saved log file.

PS: Many thanks for your time to response, for sure loads of folks will further support your apps! =)