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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hrockh:
atm you can't charge the phone with magldr installed when the phone is off.

hope it helps
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] coden1ke:
I don't believe that is the actually problem.

I had left the phone on the charger for the past hour and a half and just started it up, and to my surprise it loaded all the way back into android and showed that it was actually charging.

I guess.... maybe it was slowly dieing over night because it was not getting enough charge from the notebook.

And when I woke up and check my phone it was so drained it couldn't even boot past the boot screen.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dontbes:
I didnt want to get the G2 at first since I was just infatuated with the vibrants screen but once I got to play with it I needed to have it!

So what made you choose the G2? And how long are you gonna stick with it?
[G2 and Desire Z General] moolash:
I just love it

My last 2 phones were a HTC Kaiser and a Touch Pro 2. With both I felt I had never would need another phone. :)

Well, more and more things were coming to Android only, a lot of apps (Facebook, maps, google's native things) look and work a whole lot better on android, so I thought to switch. I drooled over having 720p HD video.

I wanted to stick with a qwerty.

These all made me want a Desire Z.

...and Santa brought me one... :)))
[G2 and Desire Z General] clos2100:
I chosed da g2 after droping my mt3G on the toilet. At first I wanted the vibrant but after reading and seen pics of the g2 it was a perfect match this phone has everythig I hoped for and more rooted about 5 minutes after getting it lol
[G2 and Desire Z General] lombardo8:
I swear, for a minute I thought your reply was my reply.

Just like you, I went form a kaiser to the TP2 and now the Desire Z. Just like you, I thought my previous phones were the mother of all inventions and I wouldnt need another phone in my lifetime :cool: . I would have upgraded in November but I thought I would just hold on to the TP2 until the middle of this year but the dreaded newton rings appeared on the TP2 last week (2nd time in 6months) so I was 'forced' to upgrade. I also must have a physical keyboard but I flirted with the Desire HD and Nexus S. The DHD was just too big and the NS didnt have a keyboard. Despite all the noise about the hinge, I bit the bullet and got the Desire Z and I thank gooness I did. Absolutely no regrets. My TP2 now feels like an early 90s phone.

Just in case anyone is interested, my TP2 with a brand new screen and absolutely no scratches + all accessories and an 8GB microSD card is up for sale @ £150.
[G2 and Desire Z General] moolash:
HTC DZ

I have to admit I use the qwerty keyboard less frequently on the DZ.

Reason one: it's good to type with touch input, it even support X9 in Hungarian (while the qwerty supports English only) so it completes a lot of words right.

Reason two: I donno if this is a question of getting used to it or not, but the keyboard is a lot worse than on the TP2. I wouldn't dis it, neither the hinge, cause it's not a problem either. It's just more awkward typing on it, plus special chars in hungarian work different than previously on the TP2.

I do not regret the TP2. There are soooo many advantages of the DZ and Android they make me forget the front camera, too. :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] fablife:
It was the only decent device my carrier offered other than the SGS which suffered the all too well known corrupted SD due to samsung failure.

I was never too crazy about the keyboard, but have grown to like and use it.

I do miss the SA screen, screen dimensions, and the device dimensions, - but the usability added by sense is amazing. Plus the DZ seems to be much faster and more stable to me based purely on my own usage.
[G2 and Desire Z General] urfavoritemazn:
I've gone through so many phones and the g2 impressed me so much that I had to get it. And the fact that it was one of the first phone compatible with hspa. ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] lonewolf1314:
I'm coming from the touch pro 2. I was looking to stick with the physical keyboard and it takes a while to get to the one on the g2. I wanted a phone to have wifi calling since I do not get any service in some of my classes at college. Android apps are no iphone apps but they work. Windows mobile is highly customizable and I like being able to have the option to do so on the G2 if ever needed. I will hold on to my G2 for as long as I can or till a dual core, physical qwerty, windows phone 7 with a 4+ screen hits T-Mobile. Well a better one than the dell venue pro.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tazz9690:
I got the G2 because I went from a Sony Ericsson as my 1st phone, Moto Razr as my 2nd, Sidekick 3 as my 3rd, Blackberry Pearl 8120 as my 4th, and G1 as my 5th.

G1 was by far my favorite phone, with the Pearl being in 2nd. I fell in love with Android, then I learned about rooting, and that was a wrap. Went from a Haykuro 1.5, to a JesusFreke 1.5, then I learned about Cyanogen. Man, oh man, were my eyes opened by the XDA community.

From the G1, the 2nd Android phone for TMO came in the form of the myTouch 3G, and I had to have it, because I had transformed into an Android fanboy. From there, I went to an HD2, for the sole fact that I hoped that Android would be ported over to it, which thankfully, is now a reality!

I switched back and forth between the HD2 and the MT3G for a while, then I stuck with the MT3G, because I wanted the genuine Android experience. I wish I bought the N1 when it first came out, but the money wasn't there, so I had to settle.

When the G2 came knocking at TMO's doorstep and I knew about phone specs now and actually saw what the G2 had, I was very impressed, and having owned its big brother, the G1, it was fate that I had to buy it.

Yes, the G2 may have some flaws like the loose hinge and less than great camera in artificial/low light conditions, but I still love this phone and would not want to trade it for an HD7, MT4G, a Galaxy S phone, or anything else offered by TMO right now.

I love this phone and I would not change my decision of purchasing it if I had the opportunity to do it all over again.

Oh, and the fact that it is the first HSPA+ phone for T-Mobile, which there is 4G in my area also is a great perk!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Groboto:
simple, Cyanogen has it! :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] C.Flat:
2 dead Galaxy S Vibrants from Bell pushed me to the Desire Z. I wish I got it in the first place.
[G2 and Desire Z General] timsterzzz:
That was a selling point for sure!! I started with a Samsung Moment and then A Vibrant. I changed roms like twice a day trying to find "The one". It was kinda like internet dating, lol. I had to replace one of my Vibrants and while I was waiting for the replacement they had the G2 for $0 on black Monday. The rest is history, rooted and CM6. Physically its a beautiful phone imo, though it is protected and covered with an Otterbox. Only gripe is the hinge deal, but I swype 99.9% of the time. Its just a solid phone with awesome support, yeah Cyanogen has one. I'm waiting on something Tegra 2 based to hit TMO before I get another.
[G2 and Desire Z General] adavis159:
I had an original MyTouch 3G, it was slow as molasses on froyo, didn't have a keyboard, and didn't have a 3.5mm jack

the G2 is the only phone released in the last 6 months that fixes these problems. Adding in the 1.7GHz(!) overclock and solid cyanogenmod support made it even better
[G2 and Desire Z General] thundertroy:
cyanogenmod :D.

ahah. I bought it before I knew cyanogenmod had it.

I had the G1, and loved it. Too bad i had to return it cuz ma dad was on my ass for always being on it. :P what do you except? its android! :D

So I heard the G2 was coming out and I almost shyt my pants. :D

its a sexy phone. :) i dont mind the hinges... one thing that sucks is no front facing camera... but o well.. :) maybe the G3 will own? :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] dietotherhythm:
Got a G1 shortly after launch. Tmo upgrade came along not too long ago and so did the follow up phone... the G2. Physical keyboard is a must have for me.

I can't stand a touch screen keyboard.

The new network is also a nice perk.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CB620:
Let's see.....After putting almost 50 windows roms on my HD2 and of course some Android builds. I realized the phone was getting boring by the day. I missed having a physical keyboard...better apps of course, faster speeds,and better battery life.
[G2 and Desire Z General] the real croustibat:
I wanted a good phone (better than my old omnia) with a working keyboard for which i would not pay much.

I could get a motorola flipout (found it was a poor phone), an xperia x10 mini pro (it would have been good, provided the battery was not that fast empty and unremovable), or some blackberrys with small screens. I would have had to pay more than 400$ for every interesting phone with a nice screen and a keyboard.

Then, virgin mobile made a flash offer on the desire Z. I had to pay around 80$, which was nice, and a sub 40$/month service including unlimited-yet-not-that-much-unlimited internet, unlimited texts and 2hrs/month .

So i got it. Quite impressed by it actually, worth more than what i actually thought, especially now that i know debian can be installed on it :D

i am new to android, i had an omnia before. The improvement in feeling is huge, but i feel quite concerned about new phones. With windows phone 6.1 i could do what i wanted on it, no need to hack around to install apps that require some special hardware access or root access and so on. I did not have to install a file browser either...

I just hope phone OS designers would stop trying to limit phone usage. Anyway they currently have not succeeded, so thats fine :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] jojo_16:
Simple its indestructible..
[G2 and Desire Z General] solace.discord:
I used to be a hard core crackberry user. My first android was the MT3G- loved it, but just couldn't get used to the touchscreen keyboard while also using a BB. (didn't care much for the iphone- my 5 year old uses it now)

When the HD2 came out, I'm glad I got it asap! The hardware was what made me want it badly.. The screen size was perfect for the onscreen kb, and it was even better when we could run android.. but I got sick of being annoyed on a daily basis. And I suffered from keyboard envy.

I was going to hold out on upgrading until Spring, as I usually did, and had been following the G2 forums since the release. Early December TMo offered me BOGO if we switched back to a contract... I couldn't refuse, and a sexy G2 arrived days later.

I love it. I was concerned with giving up screen real estate, but that quickly passed. My only issue is signal strength- I only get G where I live but forced into an unlimited 4G plan though I'm always on wifi, and the "partner service" doesn't seem to work. No faults of the G2- TMo needs to get their services straight.
[G2 and Desire Z General] scottmog:
cuz it was called G2, and everyone knew it was gonna be good.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dustrho:
My first Android phone was the MyTouch3G, which was and always will be an outstanding phone IMO. Before that I owned the BlackBerry Pearl, which was a good phone for its time, but after trying out a friend's G1 I fell in love with the whole Android experience. Instead of purchasing the G1 I went with the MT3G because it was better spec-wise. That phone still works to the day, but I wanted a phone that had 4G capabilities so I purchased the MyTouch4G. After going through FIVE of those phones for reasons such as creaking buttons and a washed-out display, I gave up on that phone and instead went with the G2. What a beautiful phone this is. However, after using it for only a week the once strong hinge became loose as hell, and I attempted an exchange for it. The replacement unit had a looser hinge than the one I currently bought, so I decided to ship that replacement back and keep my original G2. Now that I purchased the HTC hard shell case (black, OEM), my phone seems to stay closed better and feels much more solid.

I'm very happy with this phone. I can OC it safely to 1.5 GHz and can go all the way to 1.8 GHz (won't keep it like that), it has outstanding battery life, and Cyanogen (my favorite ROM) runs beautifully on it. Never thought I'd ever need a physical keyboard, but after buying this one I think it will be a must-have item for future phone purchases.

G2 FTW! :cool:
[G2 and Desire Z General] gbarayah:
I have had many phones over the last few years.

For me, there were a few selling points.

HTC Build Quality - I had an original Touch Pro from AT&T a few years ago. The phone was a bit bulky, but the build quality was superb. I was very impressed and immediately became a fan of HTC.

Keyboard - I LOVED my Blackberry devices because of their amazing physical keyboards. For me, a physical keyboard is a must because of the number of text messages and emails I send. The G2 keyboard is not as great as my berry but it is more than adequate. Over time, I have grown accustomed to it.

Android - I had been looking to make the switch to an 'open source' OS for quite some time. As much as I liked my Blackberry Bold, it was way behind other devices in the media/social/entertainment realm. Having a device with an OS that is supported by great developers (and online XDA community) is a must.

So when the Desire Z NAM version came out with the proper 3G bands for AT&T it was a no brainer for me.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ddblade20:
am a proud g1 owner and i think the g2 is the true successor of the g1, now i have a rooted g2 with radio s-off, running and flashing the latest cyanogenmod 7 builds everyday, that's more than enough reasons to get the g2
[G2 and Desire Z General] bruceko86:
I decided to give android a try when i got bored with iphone 3g.

Went from ATT nexus one -> Xperia x10 (i know WTF?) -> Desire Z

I need a keyboard. Been using touch screens for the past 3 years and I never got used to it. People who i text can finally understand what i am saying
[G2 and Desire Z General] dare050:
Because it was hard to one hand type without looking, then I realized the hardware keyboard is too wide to try to one hand type anyway. Still love all the other features though
[G2 and Desire Z General] victorinoxs:
EXACTLY the same reason I bought it. Flashed CM Rom the second I got to my computer.
[G2 and Desire Z General] GhostZini:
hTc phones are simply better than the rest. G2 is sooo damn sexy. Compare it to vibrant which looks like a 10$ plastic piece o crap. **** super amoled screen, i dont give a ****. I dont need no bad avatar movie for my ****, lol

Sent from my G2 running SparksMod HotSauce!
[G2 and Desire Z General] KCRic:
I had a MyTouch Slide 'nuff said.

Ok, it was actually a good phone but with it getting the samsung treatment on froyo I couldn't take it anymore. S-Off finally came to it a few weeks ago so that gave it a bit of a dev boost. However, after seeing the specs on the G2, not wanting a samsung, and still wanting to have a hard keyboard I had to have the G2.

The customer loyalty thing T Mobile had was a big boost too since I got it for free - oh and cyanogen has it among other top devs.
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidfeen809:
Because of the keyboard, htc, super tft lcd, stock 2.2 almost perfect screen size 3.8 would've been perfect they could've squeezed a 3.8 in the G2 at the size it is 5 mp cam with flash
[G2 and Desire Z General] david279:
Sprint.....
[G2 and Desire Z General] G1_enthusiast:
only decent phone in tmobile, ****ty ass company
[G2 and Desire Z General] misterykid89:
I got it because it was free after rebate about a week ago if I ordered it online. Also, it's so much faster than my previous MyTouch 3G (the original one without the headphone jack).

Edit: Also I get 4G speed (even though it's not real 4G)
[G2 and Desire Z General] jaoyina:
I was a blackberry user, the only reason to choose G2 is the keyboard, but it turns out i don't use the keyboard very much after i got it.

G2 looks cool, but the battery life is too short compare to my blackberry 9700.

The in-call volumn is very low even i set it to max.

the Stereo system is also poor compare to blackberry 9700, let alone blackberry 9000
[G2 and Desire Z General] stormbeta:
I needed a new phone because my old one broke (Nokia 5800, don't ask), I'd been wanting an android phone for quite some time, but I needed one that was A) GSM and B) had a physical keyboard.

In retrospect I should've gotten the Desire Z, as the G2 is EDGE-only on AT&T. It's not a big deal though, as I'm near a wifi network 95% of the time anyways, and I figure I'll probably look into switching to T-mobile in about 6 months for price reasons as it is.
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
The Nexus S sucked a fat one.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rand0m_insanity:
I got the Desire Z just because of the Hardware keyboard. I have had several phones with hardware keyboards and I could not live without after that.

It all started when I got myself a HTC TyTn. Then Android came. (un)fortunately, I lost my TyTn, and got myself a HTC Dream. I loved that phone, but as time passed, it could not meet my needs.

I sold my Dream and got me a Moto Milestone. The lack of Froyo and the locked bootloader drove me to get me this Desire Z. So far, I am really happy with it. Probably use this as long as I can.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Nymphaea:
Well it was my first phone, and being a bit of a techie I couldn't live with just a plain cellphone, I needed to get a Smartphone, preferably one with good specs. The Desire Z has pretty good specs, runs Android which is what I wanted(somewhat anti-Microsoft ;) ) and has a hardware keyboard, which was a big turning point for me, I absolutely hate most touchscreen keyboards.

It also didn't hurt that it has a pretty good camera, and that it was free on contract. Helps when you are having money problems :P
[Vibrant General] koooba:
My phone is currently running the basic 2.1update1 Eclair.

I took some notes on my phone a la Swype, so I thought I'd ask away.

1) Can't play flash, anyone have problems after installing it?

2) Before installing any kind of updated version of Android, is there a program similar to Norton Ghost in which I can take a snap shot of my phone and back it up, in case I screw up somehow?

3) Does having Avatar on the SD card slow the phone down in any way?

Anyways, hope these are simple enough.

Most important is #2.

Thanks in advance.
[Vibrant General] Gigamaster89:
1. No full flash on 2.1

2. Titanium Backup

3. No.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[Vibrant General] lqaddict:
1) Flash is tolerable, can be useful for some content.

2) Use Titanium Backup - requires root.

3) I don't think so.
[Vibrant General] lqaddict:
I think he is going to update it to 2.2
[Vibrant General] x04ty29er:
1) As far as I am aware, 2.1 doesn't have full flash support, as mentioned above. Your best bet is to install a custom 2.2 based ROM and go from there.

2) Yes. Use the ROM Manager (available in the Market) to make a backup of your current ROM, and Titanium Backup to make a backup of your user applications and data.

3) No it should not. Possibly lengthen SD scanning times (probably negligible).

Hope that was simple enough ;)
[Vibrant General] koooba:
Perfect, thanks guys.

As for which version to install, any recommendations? There seems to be a million and one version around, just something simple and stable.

Forgot to mention as to what to remove, after digging around I came up with the following.

GoGo

Sims3

Slacker Radio

Kindle

Write and go

Amazon mp3

Telnav

any other suggestions on what to remove?
[Vibrant General] x04ty29er:
Well, many of the custom ROMs already have most of the bloatware removed, so you don't really need to worry about that.

I'm running Axura 2.2.5.9 (I believe) on top of eugene's B#20 OC kernel and I love it.

I've also heard good things about NeroV3.

Just look in the Development forum for ROMs and pick one you like.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VeryCoolAlan:
So if I install a rom do I immediately flash a voodoo kernel or do I flash set it up and reboot into recovery and flash?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x04ty29er:
You only need to have CWM and the CWM flashable zip. Then, just boot into Recovery, select Zip from SDcard, pick your kernel, flash, enjoy.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VeryCoolAlan:
No I meant if I flash a kernel immediately after flashing rom or do I wait for setup and then reboot into recovery and flash
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x04ty29er:
Ah I see. Well, I don't know if it's required, but I always flash a ROM, let it boot into the system, wait for about 30 minutes, then go back and flash a different kernel, just to be safe.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VeryCoolAlan:
Yea thanks!
[General Questions and Answers] Stu308:
Hi, I hve finally decide to go back to PDA/Smartphone and want to know which I should get. I am a veteran in the rom flashing/cooking era of the wizard and vario's and htc touch pro 2. I am after finding out which is the best , as in most powerful and able to run everything smoothly whether it be android or Win7. I prefer a physical keyboard , but if screen good enough will use on screen one.

Thanks for your time/thoughts peeps!!

P.s coming of an Iphone 4. (Boo hiss I know...lol).
[General Questions and Answers] freaksey:
Desire Z (w/ HW Keyboard), iPhone 4 or HTC HD7...

This depends on you. All those phones are great. You need to check which one fits your style. We can't do this for you.
[General Questions and Answers] x10user2011:
I suggest you wait until the newer Q1 2011 android phones come out, where do you live and what carriers are in your area?
[General Questions and Answers] Stu308:
Thanks for the replys. I am in UK on o2 and have about £400 for new phone.
[General Questions and Answers] Stu308:
need a phone quite quickly so am after the best nowish. Can a desire z be flashed with roms etc and HD7?

HD7 looks quite big and desire z only has 800mhz cpu as far as I can see . Is this fast enough.?

Thanks.
[Desire General] cesarq:
maiby somebody have service manual
[Desire General] AndroHero:
have you checked the wiki??
[Desire General] Ik Desire:
Most certainly lost off people have service manual. So? You want one to? Which one, tv, microwave, car?
[Desire General] AndroHero:
Whats the point in a comment like that? He obviously wants a copy of the desire service manual that the htc tech guys use ........
[Desire General] xandi8207:
i'm also trying to find the service manual for htc desire... i've changed the cover completely and i'm trying to find the reference number for the LCM Copper Foil to replace it...
[Desire General] bluedesire:
Maybe this is usefull:

http://youtu.be/s4Yo00vjBQY

or this one:

www.HTCRepairParts.com

www.repairHPpda.com
[TG01 General] MarvX:
Hi, I just would like to ask how you guys doing your BackUps of ypur TG01. I can see lots of as is traing different cooked rooms and i cnow how to restore my ow personal data like phone book, sms, email or so but how i can restore installed applications, software and all staff i had on my phone installed before i change the Room but with home screen or UI from the new Room.

I du not believe all of you is installing all applications aver again and again after you change the room with different UI like SPB or HTC Sence.

Thanks

Roman
[TG01 General] Pere:
Good question! I've always had the same curiosity, because as I have a lot of apps installed on my device and I need it for my private and professional life, I had never tested any ROM, not for the PIM dates (easy to recover from Pimbackup or the useful Microsoft MyPhone) but to avoid installing all the apps again!

Recently and to avoid this problem, I've bought a cheap screen scratched TG01 , just for testing roms!

But coming back to your question, I'm interested in the answer as well!