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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
ok

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jchutch2:
I agree. Start with the above mentioned idiot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] dharvey4651:
I have a way of stopping people from posting in his thread but then you'd all be out of luck.

I suggest you all just start acting civil and behaving..

@tiad8 - It is important that you declare your sources here on XDA for several reasons.

Users who's work you use without permission could get upset and your works are liable to get taken down.

If you do not declare your sources then you are in violation of the Android GPL(General Public License) and your works are still subject to being taken down.

You see these users are not incorrect, they're just biased and so their answers may seem a bit one-sided.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] khatta:
Thanks !

Good to see you back !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
ok guys, update "new build"

I have a friend here in PA

I told him 3 days ago to test the battery life on the new build and I told him don't touch the phone. you know with a few apps

GUYS HE JUST CALLED ME. IT BEEN 3 DAYS AND HE SAID HE STILL HAVE 30% LEFT. I DON'T KNOW BUT, THIS IS AMAZING. JUST WITH A SIMPLE SETUP.

THANKS
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] khatta:
We are all ready for mass testing. :-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
hi, guys

this are the libs driver for the camera, that's what I use to make the camera works for you.

I made share this with ACL or VIRUS, TO SEE WHAT CAN THEY DO TO MAKE THIS WORK FOR ALL THE DEVICES, WITHOUT TOUCHING THE 3D DRIVER PLUS GRALLOC.

1-libcamera.so

2-libcamera_client.so

3-libcameraservice.so

4-liboemcamera.so

5-libvorbisidec.so

THANKS
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
Everything that you do on a sd card is not guaranteed to works fast. Because it could just stop working at any time.

Remember all this builds run on a sd card. That means is going to be 50/50 change that it will not work. Because the sd card could die any time, or stop working.

Let me tell you. Sd card takes a beating with this builds.

I always tell people, you have to be patience, when running android on a sd card.

That's why the new build it going to help a lot of people running android on a sd card because they will have control of data, apps, setting, etc.. To a least much wm on battery life by not overheating the sd card.

This is how i get 2 days out my battery life in android.

1- boot haret

2- let phone sync in. Wait for green light

3- the phone is going to start clean with no app in memory. "following my setting"

4-you will not see data until you activated yourself. "following my setting"

5- once you activate you data, you will see, gmail, yahoo mail. Etc..updating. Once you check your stuff. Deactivate your data, to control your sd card to much wm battery life.

6- yes, you can text, you can make call, receive calls etc..

7- it's just that simple

hope this help

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] pinballhtc:
Good to see you back buddy :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Steefje:
Totally agree. And if and when you need any help. just let us all know.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ioandancus:
+1 to this!

Thank you tiad8!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] nrce00:
+1 +1 for me too!!!

Thank you Tiad8. I'm glad that we were able to get past this and proves that you can't keep a good man down :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
update on the new build

guys, hold a little longer

I'm in the middle of a breakthrough

with full support for

MMS

BT

THANKS
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] BeFs:
Been updating this thread maybe 100 times since last night ^^

Eagerly waiting for this update!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] stinebd:
Just to clarify on the licensing point, the only real issue is on the kernel side. tiad8 is distributing kernels for which he has no source code, cannot provide the source for relevant modifications, and holds no licensing rights (and which were never intended for public consumption due to their potentially volatile nature).

Android (and XDAndroid by extension) uses a less restrictive license that does not require distribution of source modifications (for most modules).

That said, XDAndroid does appreciate collaboration wherever possible. We don't want anybody to feel that they shouldn't be participating in development.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
guys quick question

for CDMA DEVICES

it about the sim card. honestly I have never use it. the first time that I got my phone i took it out.

1- the sim card will turn the phone in to GSM SERVICE?

2- could the sim card be the key for mms or no?

3- could the sim card have any info inside or no?

there have to be a reason why the phone company add it right.

on WM if you guys look in setting our phone have support for GSM

maybe I wrong.

anybody
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jchutch2:
It's always been my impression that the SIM card in CDMA devices was for international compatibility. I have known users of CDMA phones of this type who remove the SIM card and are still capable of sending and receiving MMS.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] BeFs:
Maybe this info will help:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/20/htc-passes-cdma-gsm-hybrid-touch-pro2-through-the-fcc/

Edit:

Both GSM and CDMA is listed as spec on my Touch Pro 2 in htc.com (http://www.htc.com/no/specification.aspx?p_id=250 in my language). Mine is a RHOD100.

When i look at the US-site the Touch Pro 2 T-mobile has both mentioned, but the Sprint version only has CDMA listed, and the Tilt 2 AT&T only has GSM mentioned.

Looks like some versions has both!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ethanpil:
I have the Sprint TP2.

It does indeed include SIM slot (and GSM radio) for international usage, but is CDMA on the Sprint network.

All USA provider SIMs are locked on the Sprint TP2 as far as I know, but in WM there is a setting that allows you to enable/disable the GSM radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
interesting

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rcgators:
Leaving the SIM card in essentially disables the data side. Only calls work when running android. I had to remove my friends SIM card from his Sprint TP2 to get data communication working. Leaving the card out does not affect any services on the WM side as far as I am aware.

As for giving credit, I agree you should update the first post and clearly (big and bold) list the major components of this package and where they came from. It won't in any way minimize the work you've done and may help the project by getting people to think aside the box. Stick around and continue your work as all will benefit.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
good info

thank you
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
i will do that

thank you
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] khatta:
Just as others said, Sprint TP2 is CDMA as well as GSM. It won't work in US as its locked here, but I used it international recently and worked like a charm using a local Sim Card on GSM network.

Just an FYI >> If you are traveling international, no need to call Sprint to unlock TP2. It works international by default on a GSM network.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Benzap:
I have a TP2 from US Cellular.

As far as I can tell, I have no SIM card, never have had one with this phone. I just swapped it out because a button broke and there wasn't any sim card to swap out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
update

guys, I could feel the BT it's coming

this is what i'm doing

1- add a mod build.prop with BT info.

2- I created permission for hw, for BT

3- startup.txt i add it this line hwbluetooth.force=1

4- system/etc/bluetooth. i need to to work with conf files to match everything

and few others things

well. it turn on for the first time ever. but nothing yet.

PLEASE RELAX. AND HAVE PATIENCE

THANKS
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] bijan588:
I love that you decided to stay.

I heared that overclocking could fix my 2 fps, how do I do that?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SilentO:
Why does my battery go out so quickly?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SirBuzz:
Tiad8 glad you are still here putting in a phenomenal job as always. Can't wait to see the new Super Bowl build.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] dcmedic:
Add the following line to your startup.txt somewhere in the command line:

acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=xxxxxx

Replace xxxxxx with one of your choice below:

540672 : 528 MHz (stock speed for Rhod)

716800 : 700 MHz

786432 : 768 MHz
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] prasangbc:
OC'ing

Do what dcmedic says

but also make pm.sleep_mode=2 (if it's not already). So basically your startup.txt file should look similar to:

set ramsize 0x10000000

set ramaddr 0x10000000

set mtype 2292

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x9f.0x39a.0x35c.0x78 clock_7x00.grp=0xa99 hw3d.force=1 board-htcrhodium.is_cdma=1 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 force_cdma=1 gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=2 acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=716800 physkeyboard=rhod400"

boot
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] dcmedic:
This was pulled from another thread, posted by arrrghhh

"We should not be using this in the newer kernels. <<(pm.sleep_mode=2)

BZO made a commit to the PLL2 code, and you should now either be using =1 or =0. I'd recommend =1 if you're OC'd, =0 if not. But not =2, assuming you're on a newer kernel (within the last 2 months I'd say...)"

I just say try it and see what you come up with.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
ok, guys

new build

uploading now

look at this picture, I took it with the new camera app. looks good ha

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Geko90:
keep pressing F5 :)

Thanks and I'm very happy to have you back!!! I'd have missed you!!!

THANK YOU for all your hard work... take care of the xda-family, after your true one, of course!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jookdakang23:
when is the new build droppin?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
froyo x red 2011.02.06

is ready

1- boot haret

2- welcome screen. Wait for green light

3- home screen. Wait for green light

4- spare parts.

5- setting, do your apn settings

6- you will see an app name (apn) that's your data control. BATTERY LIFE. Open it

7- continue with your normal setting

8- after you done with with set-up. Click apn control, disable it. Then boot

I will update the firs post "change logs" busy busy

enjoy

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] eww245:
If anyone is intrested in using DroidWall two modules need to be enabled xt_owner and ipt_REJECT.

Found this in the kernel thread HERE

Unfortunatlly running wireless-tether stops this from working

This and the below tweaks can be added to the froyo.user.config file

#DroidWall

modprobe xt_owner

modprobe ipt_REJECT

To change the default theme a new apk can be bound to framework-res.apk

services.jar might also be needed for font colors as in the case with using blazn's framework

Both files can be copied from /system/framework/ directory of another build.

#New theme

mount --bind /sdcard/FroyoX/framework-res.apk /system/framework/framework-res.apk

mount --bind /sdcard/FroyoX/services.jar /system/framework/services.jar

#Change the default launcher and prevent it from running in the background.

mount --bind /sdcard/FroyoX/launcher-1.apk /system/app/Launcher2.apk

#Change the bootanimation

mount --bind /sdcard/FroyoX/bootanimation.zip /system/media/bootanimation.zip

#Remove the bootanimation and start with the plain andriod animation, this only needs to be run once

.//system/bin/bootanim.sh disable

sleep 1

y

#Need an empty line after the 'y' to simulate a return key

tiad8, is there anyway to get Jbed to work? I found it HERE

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jookdakang23:
you should add that it takes a while to get to first boot cause i had a black screen for like 5 - 8 mins before it change
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SilentO:
no, it took my phone less than 5 minutes to boot.

I suggest that you go and get a new battery
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jookdakang23:
battery isnt relevant here...and i have a 210 if that makes a difference
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jopherr:
so recieving MMS still doesnt work?

from personal experience, on my tilt2 and with the previous build, i could get MMS from other people on Att but i could NOT get MMS from people on T-mobile.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SilentO:
Tiad8,

What do you mean by always wait for green light?

How come I can never get the light to come on green?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] cuetechpool@aol.com:
using the first andriod for htc touch pro t-mobile usa

We are using the first andriod dual os for htc touch pro t-mobile usa. It is called XDAndroid 2.2 (rel 1.6).cab. It has been a challenge to get it to work on our htc. We would like to try this upgrade. How do we install this version over the other version. XDAndroid 2.2 (rel 1.6).cab. please advise.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Benzap:
I love devs and repackagers alike for taking of your personal time to provide so much value with little to no reward.

Thank You.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] bloodlustv6:
whenever i select apn control then turn on mobile internet the phone freezes -_-

i have to redo the whole memory card setup i wont be using the apn no more

Rhod100_uk
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] TurasPl:
Guys - it was said 100 times that is a 'must have' to give credits. Tiad confirm that and case is closed. I suggest we shall come back to the most important issue - which is making a working android for our handsets.

Tiad - I did some testing of the latest build on my RHOD 100 UK.

Unfortunatelly it behaves same like prvious builds. As soon as GMS module become active the phone hangs. When I started it without sim card - all is working like a charm. Machine is stable / responsive.

To give You more clue - with sim card - led do not work. Without - it bechaves like You said - orange - phone active, green on standby.

I am starting to be afraid that RHOD 100 has a huge problem :(

Just in case I am attaching my startup.txt - maybe You can figure out what to change.

Best

Maciek
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mwf:
After I changed my phone company (and got a new sim card) android allways freeze within 1-2 minutes after boot..

Has anyone experienced this? And have a solution?

From Telmore to OiSter
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] BeFs:
Hi! Try mine:

set ramsize 0x10000000
set ramaddr 0x10000000
set mtype 2292
set KERNEL zImage
set initrd initrd.gz
set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x9f.0x39a.0x35c.0x78 clock_7x00.grp=0xa99 hw3d.force=1 board-htcrhodium.is_cdma=1 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 force_cdma=0 gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1 physkeyboard=rhod100_nordic"
boot

I dont know if the "board-htcrhodium.is_cdma=1" is essential, because I'm on GSM. But far as i know this phone supports both, and my RHOD100 works with these settings.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] pinballhtc:
Hello,

I have a rhod100_uk and no problems here, build is very stable.

as long as i dont use the camera with camera kernel ( 2secs good pic, then artifacts, if i quit camera program led stays orange from then on till the next reset).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] doublen1:
Is there a way to enable the Tilt 2 physical keyboard on this? Could I change the device code in the startup.txt file? from:

To

**EDIT**

The above change seems to work. I personally didn't find this information in the thread anywhere, I did however find it in another thread within the Rhodium/Android section. Jumped the gun too quickly on this post.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Raul^:
Use older kernel (1226 for example) , set up the android first with apn, google mail / sync and so on and then change kernel for new one. That way it worked for me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
ok guys

I'm going to be busy for the next few days

1-this is apk, will help everyone, change home screen.

2- don't wory about the bootanimation for now. I just want to see how fast it will get you in to android. I will change it later.

3- I will update the first post.

THANKS
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jchutch2:
Wow...just won't let it go will you? You're absolutely incorrect about GPL. Please read GNU General Public License, version 2 (GPLv2) published by the Open Source Initiative. There are 2 basic requirements in GPL.

1. Copyright information must be maintained in the code.

2. Section 6 specifically states "...the recipient automatically receives a license from the original licensor to copy, distribute or modify the Program subject to these terms and conditions. You may not impose any further restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein. You are not responsible for enforcing compliance by third parties to this License."

There is not a single statement in the license requiring that someone "give back." Nor is there a statement that a licensee of the source publish the original author's information in any way or manner other than leaving the copyright in the code. In other words, you can't make someone publicly state on a forum or in any other means where they got the code.

So please make sure you actually know what you're talking about before you start insulting others. Similarly, it was pretty egotistical for you to say that you'd have a problem with Tiad if the code sizes matched. It was pretty much you sticking your nose in other people's business as you had zero authority or claim to the code. To top it off, you did it with incomplete information and an ignorance of the actual situation. I won't even go into the fact that you went off the handle on something based on file size instead of cksums or md5sums or something that proved identical content (hint:take a look and see many files on your computer are 1k).

Your attitude and self proclaimed importance have driven many people off, and offended even more. Please respect others' intelligence, curiosity, and desire to learn and participate. That is the true force and purpose of the open source community.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Thelightning87:
Maybe you should tag this thread [RHOD400] or something because its still not doing much for the rhod100 users.

Wifi turns on and connects but still no connectivity...

Location still not improved. Maps still things im off the coast of Nigeria somewhere

Camera still has artifacts and very likely to crash entire phone.

Screen does not return to full brightness like i set it after wakeup

I bet that only 10% of the users here has a rhod400 sprint device. Remove the useless Sprint logo at boot please. Even no logo at all would be better as the animation is slow anyway...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
ok guys

I'm going to be busy for the next few days

1-this is apk, will help everyone, change home screen.

2- don't wory about the bootanimation for now. I just want to see how fast it will get you in to android. I will change it later.

3- I will update the first post.

IS NOT AN EASY JOB TO MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY, KERNELS, ROOFTS, STARTUP.TXT, ETC... EVERYTHING WE USE TO RUN ANDROID WILL HAVE ISSUES. YOU JUST HAVE TO FIND WHAT WORKS FOR YOU LIKE, ROOFTS, KERNELS, STARTUP.TXT, ETC.. ALL THIS THINGS HAVE AN EFFECT ON ANY BUILDS.

I PROMISE, I WILL LOOK IN TO THIS, FOR RHOD100

THANKS
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] crazyC:
Due to being at work I have not yet tried the latest release, but my RHOD100 is running the original 28/1 release ok. I can and do connect to my WPA Wifi at home.

OK I get some force closes but I have yet to see a SOD.

I will double check but I think location worked OK for me.

I have made/received calls/texts/emails ok. (had to flick speaker on and off once during call)

Could not get camera to work even with camera kernal unfortunately, but hey.

It does chew up the battery a bit, but I am only using it to try out stuff to see if I could live with Android over Winmo (answer is : not yet).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] AkumaX:
im pretty sure everyone else's rhod's (lol) work. but everyone knows that rhod100 has the hugest problems (just look at the nand flashing thread, something in there hardware-wise is causing rhod100's to brick)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jchutch2:
Do we know if the nomenclature for the rhods are in order? IE did the rhod100 come out before the 210, which was before the 300, etc? Or are they simply arbitrary model numbers?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Brilliant. I guess no body wants Android then? Without the devs, we'd be at square 0 - so show some respect to them at least - you can berate me all you want, I really don't care about that.

Earlier, I wasn't calling tiad8 an idiot, and it was a silly personal attack on another user... Which was dumb on my part, and I apologize.

My previous points however stand. jclutch2, you have no clue what you're talking about - and I'm done arguing the point.

From now on I will deal either directly with tiad8 via PM, or if necessary with mods via PM. No more public displays, just don't be surprised if something gets pulled... That was obviously a mistake, as users don't seem to grasp the point - they're just selfish and want tiad to just keep pumping out builds, again for their own selfish reasons. I am not being selfish, I actually want him to share more information so everyone can benefit from what he's doing (potentially). I don't get why that's so hard to understand...

MOD EDIT:: Instead of dealing with tiad8 yourself, contact me. With all do respect, your vigilante moderator attitude is not doing anyone any good. I am far more able to handle these situations appropriately.

-dharvey4651
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Naadi900:
Man.. I lose my phone for repairs for a week and this place blows up haha.

Are far as i've read and understood Arrghh doesn't have his 'own' build, neither does Tiad xD

You should maybe leech on some IRC channels now and then and see what the dev's are actually doing. Arrrghhh might not have created builds, Stinebd does that afaik. He is troubleshooting a lot, fixing problems and communicating (read translating) test data with the developers who don't come to the forums.

At a last thought, I don't think he gives a damn wether you will follow him haha.

Just follow who you like, believe what is best for yourself, and your device.

Happy times for everyone haha!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] helicopter88:
There's freedom of expression,if aaarghh wants to criticize tiad's work or your work,he can,if you want to criticize his work you can.

I think we have to stop to talk about those stupid things,or maybe let's talk in pm,since no one cares about us.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] dharvey4651:
This has been reported again for inappropriate language, flaming and generally poor behavior.

It is for this reason that this thread is being temporarily closed.

It will be cleaned and reopened tonight.

EDIT:: 16 more posts deleted.

If you guys can't keep this thread on topic and civil, I'm going to permanently close it and then every single one of you will be out of luck. Don't make me have to do that... I HATE having to punish everyone for a few users who can't behave themselves... If you have issues with one another, either keep it to yourselves or contact me directly and I will handle it personally. It is not your job or responsibility and it will only result in consequences for both parties involved.

This thread has been re-opened with the assumption that you are all going to keep it on topic this time. Don't make me change my mind...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
guys. Please

don't let this happen. Everyone please stop.

Let's work together

please. Good things are coming

thanks guys.