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[EVO Shift 4G General] tatonka_hero:
girlfriend is ordering mine in an hour or two when she goes on lunch (she works at sprint). I can't wait to get it and finally retire my poor Hero. I've never had a phone with a keyboard, but I did try it out at the Sprint store yesterday and it seemed pretty usable, so we'll see what happens. I'll swap out that 2GB card that comes with it with my 8GB that's in my Hero now.

Now all we need is our own forum and some good development!

EDIT: Look! they just added the new forum as I typed this! lol
[EVO Shift 4G General] ajs2677:
My Hero has been a real workhorse, but it's time to move on. Going to grab the Shift this weekend, can't wait to join the action here!
[EVO Shift 4G General] yokken:
i'm surprised at how many people grabbing this phone are coming from the hero. did the hero get launched somewhere around this time 2 years ago?
[EVO Shift 4G General] tatonka_hero:
the Hero was launched in October of 2009. There seemed to be a big influx of people who got it near launch, and another big influx of people who got January/February.
[EVO Shift 4G General] jesusice:
The Samsung Moment came out around the same time as the Hero so a lot that didn't trust Samsung and desired a physical keyboard may be picking up the Shift too. (Myself included)

Sent from my PG06100
[EVO Shift 4G General] dylansylvester:
Amazon just reduced the price of the epic 4G to $99 today...since someone else just brought up the price.
[EVO Shift 4G General] silex:
Ill be honest. If Samsung releases froyo thus month I will trading the shift for one.
[EVO Shift 4G General] silex:
Some of us have to buy through Sprint since we are on sero. $200 is still a nice number all things considered.
[EVO Shift 4G General] jesusice:
Glad to see you'll be sticking with the Shift ;)
[EVO Shift 4G General] silex:
^ Haha, I got the joke ;)
[EVO Shift 4G General] rhodiggah:
Amazon is showing $199 for me...
[EVO Shift 4G General] jesusice:
It's $99 for new customers.
[EVO Shift 4G General] silex:
Meh, I keep hearing so many problems with the Epic. If you like HTC and a physical keyboard packaged into a phone with the latest technology then the Evo Shift is the answer. It looks like a mini Evo and nobody is none the wiser.
[EVO Shift 4G General] bobbysteels216:
In the area that I live in, according to Sprint's 4G coverage maps, I'm in an "excellent" 4G area. However, I can't get a 4G signal in my home; I suspect it's due to me living in a brick townhouse... I had noticed that when I step outside, I could pick up a poor 4G signal only to have it dropped 30 seconds later. I later learned that this was due to the phone preparing to roam as I had roaming on... My issue is the 4G signal getting weak and eventually dropping within a couple of seconds after I open the slideout qwerty... I'm confident that HTC can fix this issue with an update.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Xodium:
I just finally ditched my original Evo for a Shift (My camera lens got busted, plus the virtual keyboard kept irritating me to no end, also, 4G took an ETERNITY to turn on/off), and I had a question, as this is the first Sense phone I've owned that has a hardware keyboard.

Is there any way to enable auto-punctuation on the Shift's keyboard in the Sense Messaging app? Like, every time I type "dont", it won't insert the ', and hitting the space key twice doesn't insert a period.

Any way around this?

(EDIT: I should mention that it works in other HTC apps, like Peep and FriendStream, etc.)
[EVO Shift 4G General] riggsandroid:
Awesome App

Found a great app and wanted to share -

Gmote - This is awesome if you have a setup similar to me (home pc connected via HDMI to HDTV), I use this app when sitting on the couch watching Hulu, I use it to move the mouse around and search, etc. It's pretty cool for that. The playing files function is only ok, but I love that I can use my phone as a touchpad mouse for my computer!
[EVO Shift 4G General] wardfan220:
I don't know of any way to yet, I've looked every where. I hope someone else can find it or they come out with an update, I miss that.
[EVO Shift 4G General] bobbysteels216:
I'm stumped trying to figure out why my EVO Shift can't pick up a 4G signal in my home but can pick up a 4G signal in the heart of a Procter & Gamble warehouse.
[EVO Shift 4G General] silex:
Works for me in Touch Input, but not Swype.

Shifted from my Evo using XDA app.
[EVO Shift 4G General] BrandoKC:
Please discuss any issues you are experiencing with your new Evo Shift here
[EVO Shift 4G General] falz:
Since there's no permanent root and hence no ROM available, what all can be done to un-Sense this device? I'm not fond of the items below, and I've listed things to replace them. However, the first two don't seem to have available replacements:

* Dialer -> ???

* Contacts -> ???

* Messaging -> Many apps (Handscent, Go SMS, others)

* Home Screen -> Any launchers (ADW, Launcher Pro, Go Launcher, others)

* Lock Screen -> Widgetlocker

Sense also seems to run some background service even if you're not using them. How well do startup preventing apps work to kill things like these?

* Peep

* Stocks

* Footprints
[EVO Shift 4G General] BrandoKC:
There's a number of dialer replacements in the market, but I don't believe there is one that is like the true Vanilla Dialer and you've got me on contacts.

Unfortunately I don't know of anything that can be done to keep those programs from running on start up.

Hopefully we have root soon and those can be uninstalled with TB.
[EVO Shift 4G General] ttown:
Could others state their:

Up Time:

Awake Time:

They are getting in a cycle.

I am having battery issues and want to see what others are getting.

Thanks!
[EVO Shift 4G General] DWake014:
Battery issues? My phone has been unplugged for 14 hours, used 4g for half an hour, 3g internet here and there, messaging all day, been using wifi and internet for the past 3-4 hours and I'm at 37%. This phone is amazing.
[EVO Shift 4G General] dnalevelc:
I wish I woulda seen the question about Up time and active time a few minutes ago. I just restarted my phone to check something. The battery on this thing is absolutely amazing. My last 2 phones have had HORRIBLE battery life. I am on this thing all day playing with it. Games, wifi, 4g, calls, texts, you name it.
[EVO Shift 4G General] tatonka_hero:
Based on the info from xda, I think I'm going to order myself a shift tomorrow, as soon as I make sure I can afford it. I played with one that wasn't tirned on today, and I like the keyboard, so I guess it's finally time to retire my poor hero
[EVO Shift 4G General] ttown:
This is what I have been getting:

I turned off 4G, wifi, and GPS

1st cycle: 8 hours awake time

2nd cycle: 4 hours awake time

3rd cycle: 2 hours awake time

I then did a factory reset

Then turned off all syncing

4th cycle: Currently at 50%

Uptime: 6:31

Awake Time: 1:56
[EVO Shift 4G General] DWake014:
Ttown you should probably return your phone. After running this thing pretty hard today I only got down to 33%
[EVO Shift 4G General] ttown:
I plan on it. Went by a store today that didn't have repair. The rep was nice, but couldn't help me much. He is using an Epic and can get through half the day on his phone. He told me to turn off the sync.

I have heard Android is notorious for bad battery life, but I just assumed it was because it was many peoples first PDA Phone. I am coming from a Windows phone so I expect to put my phone on the charger each night.

I know you guys are turning off 4G, wifi and GPS, but are you turning off the syncing too to get better battery life? I thought having sync on and setting my updates to 1-2 hours would have been enough.
[EVO Shift 4G General] edgemaster191:
i have been getting 12 to 14 hours out of a charge with bluetooth and gps on all day and connected to wifi most of the day. so far it's almost even with what i get on my Evo with the 3500mah battery. huge difference
[EVO Shift 4G General] nik4android:
I just put my phone on charge before getting all the details. But got 13hrs, 38 mins and still had about 30% battery. Had been using 3g the whole day. No gps, nor wifi. Still amazing battery life. Had the sync running the whole time.
[EVO Shift 4G General] nik4android:
BTW how do I find the number of cycles..
[EVO Shift 4G General] ttown:
I'm guessing that is your uptime. What is the awake time you are getting on each cycle? How many bars are you getting (on average or a range)?

If you have sync on, what intervals are you pulling email, weather, facebook etc.?

Nik4Android,

I am just counting the cycles.
[EVO Shift 4G General] blahshed:
*****SERIOUS DISCREPANCIES IN STATED HTC SHIFT HARDWARE SPECS!!!!*****

-STATED 3.7" Display, Actually less then 3.6", side by side with HTC G2 and you can see it's narrower and much shorter. HTC G2 claims 3.7" but actually just about 3.8" so big difference if you're trying to decide to go with HTC G2 or HTC Shift (also held it next to Milestone/Droid which is a 3.7" and is still shorter and slightly narrower). Measured with basic tape measure (don't have access to micrometer at the moment. If someone does please measure.) and these displays are different by millimeters so if u wanted to have a 4" inch like EPIC but wanted HTC over Samsung and thought ok i'll deal with the slighty smaller 3.7", think again!!!!!

-STATED 512mb RAM, nope has 390mb like HTC G2, 371mb max displayed using free memory and checked other memory apps most deffinetly not! 512mb

-STATED 2024mb (2gb) ROM/internal memory/storage, nope 512mb 1/2gb, HTC G2 has about 1gb, so supposed to be double the HTC G2 with internal memory actually has half as much wtf?

if the stated specs on HTC Shift sold you think about this stuff while you still have 30 days to change your mind
[EVO Shift 4G General] silex:
^ Seriously? WTF?
[EVO Shift 4G General] blahshed:
yes seriously!! i have all 3 phones in my possession right now and i noticed the screen was smaller then my HTC G2 the second it hit my hands, before even putting them side by side it is that big a difference. once i saw that it wasnt even close i wanted to make sure it actually was better then the G2 HARDWARE WISE and checked the ram and storage where its supposed to be higher....its a load of crap and im glad i went with tmob and the G2 now.....this is huge false advertising....and is scandalous, who lied sprint or htc? there you are signing a 2 year contract with sprint for the shift maybe holding a dummy phone (depending where your buying it) and taking there word these specs are true to then get home and find out later its far from that...not cool
[EVO Shift 4G General] yokken:
stock i get like 120MB free after my phone's been on for a while, whereas my evo stock got somewhere around 180MB. i thought the evo and the shift both had 512MB of RAM, so is it just bloatware on the shift, or what?

this is just even more reason to make me anxious for a permanent root solution haha
[EVO Shift 4G General] blahshed:
not to kill ur new phone buzz but root wont replace your missing hardware :( still an awesome device but these missrepresentations need to be brought up
[EVO Shift 4G General] yokken:
until you have any proof that there isn't actually 512MB of RAM in there i doubt anyone's going to believe much of what you say, especially since you barge in here screaming about a phone manufacturer/major cell carrier lying to their entire consumer base? we'll see.
[EVO Shift 4G General] silex:
The 2gb Sprint is referring to might be in regards to the micro SD card. I do find it ironic its a Samsung brand though, lol.
[EVO Shift 4G General] dansal28:
So where the 2G internal memory go?.it shows 459 MB ONLY. ..... Bestbuy Walmart and HTC.com stated that the phone has a 2G Emmc internal memory . Could it be hiden as it is n the HTC Visio? ..other than that the phone s Amazing
[EVO Shift 4G General] blahshed:
then someone else with a shift plz confirm what i am sayin. look in settings at your sd storage and see roughly 355mb internal storage there isnt a gig an a half + of bloatware, then download a ram management app or more and check your max, then measure your display horizontally, i have nothing to gain from this why doubt me i am dissapointed in the findings. is this not the correct thread for this? issues found in shift? u must not have one or you would be checking and then be pissed the **** off at someone, and wouldnt be defending the possible culprits
[EVO Shift 4G General] blahshed:
sd is a 2GB card but they say internal memory everywhere not external storage, either way its false advertising, this phone was picked over the G2 by the owner because of those 2 reasons, more ram, more rom, finding the screen is also smaller then expected is just another harsh blow....once again it is still a great phone but this should be known/made aware before purchase not after
[EVO Shift 4G General] rhodiggah:
Make sure you get it over at Radioshack. They have it for $149.99 with no mail in rebate necessary.

I finally decided to give up my HEROC rooted. Still a great phone and in great condition. Who knows, I do have 30 days to try it out. Never owned a phone with a keyboard before, so this is all new to me. So far so good.

Never liked the look of Sense UI, hopefully there is full root soon...
[EVO Shift 4G General] SirRipo:
Best Buy also offers the no-mail in rebate thing. And I believe their price is the same. Anyway, could someone please tell me what style of charger the phone uses? Is it the same as the Hero? the pictures show a little difference. I just don't want to buy a new charger for my Hero only to find out it's incompatible with the Shift, since I plan on buying one within a week or two.
[EVO Shift 4G General] yokken:
I checked some details in quadrant and it does say around 380mb of ram, maybe it doesn't count what the system is using. Also on sprints page for the shift it says something like internal memory is 2gb but it also says something right next to it like "380mb free". So I dunno what the deal is.
[EVO Shift 4G General] blahshed:
I reccommend the shift if ur hooked in sprint but if trying to get the best HTC Slider regardless of the carrier and your looking at hardware specs they are wrong on shift....if had the option i would have gotten the Merge over G2 and Shift...unfortunately there still is no merge and i wasnt gonna shell out $850 for a desire z when was with att a month ago
[EVO Shift 4G General] edgemaster191:
if you open up Quadrant and look at the system info page, under memory it looks like this (on my phone)

Total: 382172 kB

Free: 13628 kB

Inactive:169520 kB

what is the Inactive part of this?

also..anyone know what a magnetic field sensor is? it's listed under the accelerometer
[EVO Shift 4G General] VampireRollen:
It uses the new standard which is micro usb. So your Hero's charger will not work. I did notice my heros battery will work in the Shift, But the Shift battery doesn't work in the Hero. O.o
[EVO Shift 4G General] edgemaster191:
not to sound like i'm trying to start problems here..but with regards to the RAM, if it does indeed turn out to be less RAM than the Evo, i have to ask, is it really that huge of a deal? the phone is so much smoother than my Evo that i think i could deal with the smaller amount of RAM.

i understand from an advertising point of view, if it turns out to be false advertising or mis-information, it sucks buying something to find out it's not what you thought you were getting.

but for actual functionality it's still a hell of a device,
[EVO Shift 4G General] G.D.Carter:
Volume Rocker

Is there a way to turn this damn volume rocker off?, I keep muting the damn thing when i am opening and closing the keyboard.

Also anyone seen any decent screen protectors yet? I just used one from my Samsung eternity to protect it for now but doesn't cover the whole screen. I didn't want to spend the 30$ Best buy was charging for the protector
[EVO Shift 4G General] plmiller0905:
I was wondering the same thing about the volume rocker. Sometimes, I've muted mine when just holding the phone. I've also accidentally pressed the Power button at times. But not as much as the volume rocker. Hopefully a mod or something will come out that will disable the volume rocker.
[EVO Shift 4G General] BrandoKC:
I picked up the ones that Sprint offers for $15. I am using the anti glare one and am very pleased with it.
[EVO Shift 4G General] DWake014:
The reason I'm getting decent battery life is bc I'm using the same battery saving methods as my moment. Wifi, 4g, bluetooth, sync and gps all off and brightness all the way down. No reason to need the stuff on while its in your pocket anyways. I could turn on airplane mode and save even more of my battery.
[EVO Shift 4G General] DWake014:
Oh and I got a 5 pack of protectors from radio shack for 7 bucks. They were normally 15 but they gave me a deal bc I got them with the phone. Rep even put one on for me bc I suck at it and its perfect. Their 30 day change your mind agreement states the screen can't be scratched in any way if I want to return it so that sold me on actually using the protectors. Doubt I will have any need to return this phone.
[EVO Shift 4G General] yokken:
i believe inactive RAM refers to RAM that was intialized and used at one point, but isn't anymore.

and the magnetic field sensor is the compass... get it? :)
[EVO Shift 4G General] poopc4:
Uptime= 22:00:00

Awake time= 09:05:00 and just got the 15% alert

I can't believe I waited so long to jump ship from my crackberry,
[EVO Shift 4G General] herbthehammer:
A case helps with that. You feel there is some section missing (buttons) so you learn to not press in that area.
[EVO Shift 4G General] herbthehammer:
And not receive any phone calls. You could save more power by shutting the phone off.
[EVO Shift 4G General] adamr240:
I had an issue with a key not working on the keyboard, i took it back to get it replaced, now i have a dead pixel on the screen.:mad:
[EVO Shift 4G General] tatonka_hero:
take it back again? :)
[EVO Shift 4G General] sarspants:
Coming from the Heroc, you can imagine how much I love this phone. Here are my gripes:

1. GPS doesn't seem to lock as quickly or seem as accurate. This seems to be more of an issue using this version of Google maps which I don't think the Hero supported.

2. The edge of the screen along the buttons fades out slightly. It's really only noticeable when the screen is white but is there. In fact, 2 out of 3 people at Radio Shack said they didn't see it. It's very noticeble when doing a search in landscape. Had this issue on my first one and my replacement.

As far as battery life goes, this seems worse than my Hero (~45% at the end of a day vs ~55% at the end of a day) but the Hero only lasted about 4 hours once it dropped below 50%. Once I get root, the battery will probably improve.
[EVO Shift 4G General] edgemaster191:
so is the 512mb of RAM correct then? if it's got all the inactive RAM, is that part of the total RAM?

and yeah..lol thanks...was having a moment :-P should have known it was the compass.

i don't understand. why spend the money on a phone and the $79 a month just to shut off all the phones features... *shrugs*

i leave sync set to every hour, i have facebook and two gmail accounts. i have my bluetooth headset connected all day, GPS is always on and i'm connected to WiFi (which actually improves battery life over 3G only) and i'm averaging 13 - 15 hours a day. sure i could shut everything off but then it kind of defeats the purpose of having a smart phone...

also, i'm sure this applies to the Shift as well, but on my Evo the GPS chip had no impact on battery life unless you were actually using it, just having it powered on doesn't hurt anything as it's pretty efficient while it's idle.
[EVO Shift 4G General] kenvan19:
I agree. I own an Epic and I just got this for my Wife but I have never wanted to compromise its usability for battery life. I think people will see a lot better battery life once there is a perma root as then you can remove a lot of the bloatware which constantly runs in the background but even now the shift is getting great battery life at least in comparison to my Epic lol

On another note, has anyone else noticed absolutely horrible GPS locks? I know one other person mentioned it but I'm not quite sure how bad his was but mine was 1000m-2500m in the exact spot I was able to get a 5m lock with my epic.
[EVO Shift 4G General] herbthehammer:
How many updates has the epic had? How many has the evo shift had? I understand your point but it usually takes some time to fix bugs and patch improvements.
[EVO Shift 4G General] chipstar1:
I wanted to wait for a DC phone like the bionic/atrix, but new years eve = lost phone. Luckily I was just in time for an upgrade.

I just picked up the Shift 4g, and I consider myself very picky with phones. That said, I really like the phone so far. It's big, it's heavy, but it feels solid, slides smoothly but not too easily, the keyboard is great, and the battery life continues to amaze me.

I've also had no problems with GPS. Works better than my hero.
[EVO Shift 4G General] silex:
I think you need to turn on the GPS chip in the Settings. It comes disabled from the factory.

I do recommend the 3-pack anti-glare filters being sold at the Sprint store, but I don't recommend the official black holster case with the cf backing, because it adds heft and makes the phone more slippery. Also the sliding mechanism doesn't work as well since it rubs against the case. The only plus is that you can feel where the volume buttons are.
[EVO Shift 4G General] hausman:
Ring volume increases in pocket

Normally this would be a great feature, but a feature is only a feature when it can be turned off. When the phone is in my pocket, the ringtone starts quiet for one ring, then goes to full volume (which sounds like they turned to 11). This is obviously tied to either the proximity sensor or the light sensor (or both), and it is extremely annoying. As far as I can tell there's no way to set a ring volume that doesn't change...anyone else notice this?