yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S General] unremarked:
Yes, all those benefits would still mean Google updates would get to your phone. In the past updates would patch security holes/kernel exploits which would lock the phone down(destroy root, lock bootloader, etc) again, however, since the Nexus line has an unlockable bootloader by design, the Google updates do not relock the bootloader.

The worst thing a Google update would typically make you do is re-install the custom recovery and flash the Superuser stuff again(and only if the update wipes the /system/ partition as part of it's installation). Also you can get a version of the stock ROM with the SU apk/bin already installed on these forums within hours of an OTA update hitting the first phones and flash that instead of waiting for the OTA then regaining SU. To elaborate: when Google pushes a update to your phone, it's a plain ol' HTML link to Google's servers. Your phone connects to it, and automatically downloads. People who run logs can snag these links, post them here, and it'll let people download onto their computer, place on the SD card, and flash the update(this is called "manual update").

Do note: in the 2.3.1 update, Google added some kind of md5 check on the recovery image so that if you flash a custom recovery over the stock recovery and reboot, Android will check the md5, find a mismatch, and restore the stock recovery. This is very weird and kinda runs counter-intuitive to what the Nexus line is supposed to be about, imo. In anywhich case, the file that does this has been identified and you can stop it from overwriting the stock recovery by renaming it.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Fascinating stuff. Thanks Unremarked. Will consider rooting. I'd personally love to fix those random ringtones and be able to do screen caps.
[Nexus S General] RogerPodacter:
there are a ton of things you can do with superuser access. themes, make things different colors, maybe soon load on a competely new camera app, on and on. of course the good ROM's out there bundle all these types of goodies into their one ROM, like cyanogen, which is what makes loading custom ROMs so attractive and worthwhile.

even stock with superuser access is worth it for titanium backup alone!
[Nexus S General] BlackOtaku:
Most of us who bought it were pretty well aware that phones would get a lot more awesome in a short time. That's tech for you. :p

Personally, I'm quite happy with my Nexus S, but I can't wait for the Droid Bionic to replace this old D1. :D
[Nexus S General] RogerPodacter:
dont get so hung up on the "will i get google updates". first thing is, when an update DOES come out from google, you will know about it long before its even been pushed to your phone because it will be all over the forums and news sites. so you will go grab it manually anyway. and second, you can always run all the custom stuff you want, then when you know there's an update switch back to stock to try it out.

after using a n1 for a year, i never ONCE got the update right from google. like clockwork, i hear about a release and load it up manually. then 2 weeks later my device message pops up saying there's an update lol.

besides, once rooted, with nand backups, you will be bouncing around ROMs to care about the OTA update. its so easy that all you have to do is make a nand backup of your stock ROM, keep it on your mass memory. then make nand backup of whatever other ROM you run. and to bounce back and forth, say to check for update, it takes you about 2 minutes to switch between your nand backups.

but once cyan get's a S rom out there, you guys arent gonna be on stock. trust me:D.
[Nexus S General] Zorachus:
Good point, whats the approx release date for Cyanogen for the N-S ? Not beta, but official release.
[Nexus S General] unremarked:
First rule of CM: Don't ask for release dates.

Second rule of CM: Don't ask for release dates.

Third rule of CM: Don't ask for ****ing release dates.

:)

Non-sarcastic and non-movie related answer: They typically don't give release dates or ETAs. It's done when it's done.
[Nexus S General] deeren:
What is the use of buying a super extraordinary phone with lots of features and get stuck on the android version HTC Sammy or moto gave you????

And guess what? You decide to root it ( if you succeed) and run a ported rom of the latest android ....and of course loose all your extraordinary features as well and end up having a phone just like a nexus s.most probably worse...like we've seen with ported roms .... poor battery life, Camera not working....

So IMHO, nexus s was a good choice and is the way to go for us flashaddicts!!!!
[Nexus S General] ap3604:
LG Optimus 2 / Droid Bionic both have an amazing hardware ability called HDMI mirroring that allows you to display whats on your phone screen to your TV. This means that you can use the emulators like SNESoid, NESoid, PSX4droid in order to play any game ever created on your big screen using your phone and a wiimote.

Hardware features like this are more than worth it for most people. I'd happily keep my Nexus One on Froyo forever in order to get this ability ;)

Sadly the hardware is lacking on my Nexus One and might end up getting me to upgrade to one of the CES phones.
[Nexus S General] mr mystery:
What really upsets me is seeing the Samsung Verizon device annonced today with better PPI than the NS!

Really you couldn't put the SAMOLED Plus screen in the NS? Really makes the NS look cheapened seeing this.
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Its because they want their touchwiz stuff to beat a nexus which im pissed too. Did you notice that the samoled screen thats in the nexus is worser quality than a vibrant!!! I have my sisters vibrant right next to me and there is a big diffrence specially with burn in...
[Nexus S General] rashad1:
It also has a larger screen size, so the difference isn't probably that noticeable. Imagine a bigger screen with the same PPI
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
The lte one for verizon dose have the 4 inch like us yet it has samoled plus :(
[Nexus S General] Darrien13:
im not pissed but why could then not give us samoled plus it would have been an great addition but anyway I still love my Nexus S :D
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
The Verizon one is a 4.3" device. SAMOLED PLUS and Verizon network with LTE makes that one a very attractive device to me. I'd prefer 4", but I can live 4.3".

I wish there was a release date announced so I could decide whether to keep the NS before my 30 days is up. (I'd return NS if Verizon phone out in under 8 weeks, but if it's a May/June release, I'll get enough use out of the NS to make it worth keeping.)
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Dear CES, better battery technology, please.

I'd be willing to shell out $40-50 to get a 1900+ mAh battery officially made for Nexus S. I see some of these super phone specs, and many of them still coming with 1500 mAh, and I can't imagine that going well. However, I see 1900+ also. Imagine that harnessed for today's phones; imagine how long your Nexus S can last.

I know this is how life is owning a full touch screen smart phone, but it's tiring to have to keep a wary eye on my battery meter, or having to turn stuff off, or be unable to use features (live wallpaper, constant sync, etc.) which are touted.
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
nooo... 1900 mAh is nothing, after market people already makes stuff like 3600 mAh with extended battery covers.

what we need are better batteries that keeps their current shape

something like 5000 mAh but still fit in the same size as the stock 1500 mAh battery
[Nexus S General] thepoetvd776:
Just read this whole thread, very valid points on both sides of the fence.

This sucks cause I'm undecided, the days to return the nexus are like down to seven, and I don't know if to keep it it return it. The thing is I just can't go back to G1 after using such a beasty device.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Right. That's what I meant. Official batteries from Samsung made to fit into the Nexus S as is.
[Nexus S General] slowz3r:
To be honest, if you are having second thoughts on keeping a device chances are you should just return it
[Nexus S General] RogerPodacter:
did you guys see that the new super amoled plus screen increases pixel density? they said current super amoled has 8 sub pixels, increasing to 12 with the plus version. i'm curious where they are getting "8" and "12". they must be grouping a few full pixels together.
[Nexus S General] :
Double check your receipt, Best Buy had extended holiday season returns until January 31st.
[Nexus S General] thepoetvd776:
I just checked, but it says some exclusions may apply. Does anyone know if cellphones are excluded.
[Nexus S General] Memnoch30:
The main thing is the contract as tmo gives you only 14 days. I was also told the Xmas extension did not apply to cellphones, but this is Best Buy we're talking about, their staff is not exactly the best trained or knowledgeable.
[Nexus S General] :
Well I got mine from best buy mobile, and it had the extended return period on it, then again I bought it out right.
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
It's not that cut and dry. It depends on what jurisdiction you buy the phone in. In California, and some other states, cell carriers MUST give you a 30 day trial on both the device and the contract.

However, if you buy a contract free device, at least in CA, they can limit the return policy to 14 days (and T-Mo does here).

Best Buy's got 30 days as well.

So it's really a combination of things: Purchased on contract with subsidy, or not. Purchased in 30 days state or not.

OP - why not just call the Manager at the Best Buy you bought it from and find out straight from the horse's mouth. Get his name when you ask...
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
all i can say is this, anyone who bought the nexus S and is in doubts, he/she should return the phone. because once a new one coming out soon, you will feel kinda bad.

you can always buy it again if the new phones are out and you didnt like it. but i seriously highly doubt you will pick up a nexus S when its sided against Motorolla Atrix or LG optimus 2x or even the samsung Fuse " correct spelling ? lol "

the other day i had the chance to play with the nexus S for like 3 hours since my friend bought it. as installed lots of aps and games and its really the best smart phone out there right now.

but man. a whole new generation of phones coming in exaxtly less than 22 days from now. " the LG optimus 2X is in Jan.. dual core nvidia tegra 2 1080p video recording etc "

hell even samsung they are going to annouce the new dual core samsung phone in the next month even Feb 14 " forgot whats its called" which i believe its the rumored samsung galaxy 2 with Super amoled 2 screen and dual core etc.

or motorolla atrix with its high resolution and big screen with dual core and tegra 2 and 1 Gig Ram DDR that is coming within 2 months from now. " this phone is seriously a killer "

i said it back in Nov and i will say it again now. all these new phones. desire HD, nexus S, are nothing but best phones for an end of an era. and people should hold on to their money.

for f**ks sake, you spend 550$ + on a phone. at least get something that your hard earned money worth.

you are paying 550$ for nexus S. or same price in few weeks for much better " hardware specd" phone.

you figure it out. its really very simple. doesnt need a smart brain to figure out what is the best case here.
[Nexus S General] slowz3r:
after seeing the new phones coming out all i have to say is

"meh"

they are just pushing 4G, which is just marketing, and dual core, again more marketing, you really think youll notice any performance difference?
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
what 4G ? thats not true.

and the thing is. even google them selves said tegra 2 from nvidia is going to be the reference for all future tablets " and you can bet " phones too.

hell even nvidia them selves are pushing it hard. and they are already started.

dungeon defenders. if you check the specs. they say it run best on devs with tegra 2 support. then galaxy S line " nexus S included " then desire HD etc etc.

my point is, many games will follow. many high end games that require a higher graphics will look and play better on tegra 2. its just matter of times before the phones in the market will become history . whatever its iphone 4/nexus S whatever.

tegra 2 is really an amazing gpu. and dont let those benchmarks fool you. if there is a game designed for tegra 2 only, it will make the current games on nexus s and iphone 4 look like ps2 games compared to ps3.
[Nexus S General] slowz3r:
what 4g? you mean all the talks verizon, ATT and Tmobile did about how each of their 4g networks is the "greatest"
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
bro. lol, you have to understand that not all of us live in US. hahaha

even the motorolla atrix, is going to be 4G for US, 3G for UK,

anyway as far as 4G, i assume not everyone in the US have the access to it. so i think its a mute point. sure its a plus. but IMO thats not very important " to me at least because i cant access it lol "

i was only talking about hardware specs.
[Nexus S General] slowz3r:
Ya sorry, you dont have a location flag, didnt know :)

but even the hardware specs are w.e to me, a phone is a phone, phones are now turning into mobile gaming platforms, and thats all fine and dandy but really I already have to worry about my desktop meeting min specs for games, now i gotta worry about my phone *sigh*

but ill keep my NS for a good while :)
[Nexus S General] thepoetvd776:
Yeah that's exactly what I think I'm going to do.

The only thing that sucks now is the waiting, and going back to my G1 after using the Nexus S for 3 weeks now.

Hopefully the Lg Optimus 2x comes out for T-Mobile.
[Nexus S General] tks989:
i'd rather wait for the nexus s successor. i'm sure at its launch, it will reign supreme in all important areas
[Nexus S General] ericc191:
I think I'm going to get the Optimus 2X. Dual core is nice and all, but I'm really interested in having some video codec support. Very tired of converting all my movies and tv shows. And yes I know about RockPlayer and no I don't think it that's great.
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
there is a better than rockplayer.

Vplayer. it used to be free. the alpha version.

now the beta is not free, so search 4shared.com for vplayer alpha. its much better than rockplayer as i think that program is abit stupid
[Nexus S General] thepoetvd776:
Yeah me too, but when would that come out? Most likely at the end of this year.

So if i hold on to my Nexus S till then and try to sell it, I probably wont get as much cash for it compared to if I have one of the new dual core phones.

Buying new phones is costly so I have to think ahead.
[Nexus S General] Purple Drama Llama:
Why don't you return to it to best buy? They have the whole 30 day return policy and did away with the re-stocking fee.
[Nexus S General] thepoetvd776:
Yeah that's exactly what I think about doing, I mean this phone is beasty, but I held on to my G1 for almost 2 years and was expecting to upgrade to something with a longer life span that the nexus s in terms of hardware. I thought I would be able to not care but it just didn't seem logical.

The hard part is now going back to my G1 for a month or until one of these beasty phones come out for t mobile
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dd2fourteen:
First post for me.

I have tried to look for settings that would "fix" this, but havent been able to find anything.

What I am trying to fix, is, When my alarm goes off, it goes off for i guess 2 minutes. Then after that, it does nothing. In the taskbar at the top, I see an icon for the alarm, and it reads:

ALARM

"Alarm silenced after 2 minutes"

This happens even if i do not touch the phone, no snoozing, nothing is done to the phone. It does not keep ringing my alarm. Is this behavior expected?

I tried it multiple times this AM with the same results.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

dd2fourteen
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NEXUS 4G:
I'm assuming ur on stock 2.1 build. your alarm sucks. 'better alarm' clock goes off for 10 mins I think but still turns itself off. Best alarm I found so far if the stock 2.2 alarm clock. U would probably be better off upgrading to froyo via dk28.I'll c if I can find an apk for you. Can't guarantee it will work on eclair though
[Nook Color General] AaronBronander:
Hey everyone. Did a quick search and didn't see this addressed.

Rooted using auto-nooter and everything was fine until a few days ago. When I tap the power button it no longer shuts the screen off. I can power it down by holding it though.

Not a huge issue cause I have a widget to turn off the screen, just a minor inconvenience.

Any ideas?

Sent from NC (rooted) using XDA App
[Nook Color General] ulkas:
solution

droidforums.net/forum/droid-general-discussions/21625-sleep-button-problem.html
[Droid X General] iceblue11:
If you are running version 2.2.1 (system 2.3.340) on your DroidX can you and what ROMs can you safely flash that are out? for instance dark slide? Or Fission?
[Droid X General] ARHicken:
both of those will run on the droid x but really look into the two best apex and gummyjar....

good luck just do some searching you will be alright...
[Droid X General] iceblue11:
Ive used a few TranQ which was horrible on my device 2 others that didn't work for beans and dark slide im on now. DS actually worked for a while but it has a memory leak and now with age its getting more unstable.

I wanted to go ahead and upgrade to the current basis of 2.3.340 system SBF but as warned " attempt to wipe with an old SBF, you WILL brick your phone." But I am a little confused on what classified as an older SBF at this point?
[Droid X General] kdkinc:
2.3.315 is old . Do Not use it if you go higher .320 or .340

look at Fission new version may be coming soon .

:cool::cool:
[Droid X General] iceblue11:
Dont use what? Im on 2.3.315 now with android 2.2 on DS
[Droid X General] bouchigo:
Highly subjective, I for instance think Fission is the best, and for those who want some blur, ApeX is my choice.
[Droid X General] iceblue11:
I like the blur, and looking for the apex rom still. So i should download the 2.2.340 and install it then flash apex?
[Droid X General] bouchigo:
You can't just apply 2.3.340 over non-stock 2.3.15.

Make sure your bootloader is 30.03, if it is, then:

The easiest thing to do (in my opinion) is to flash the 2.3.15 full sbf with RSD Lite to get back to stock. Once that is done, then just do the OTA update on your phone to get to 2.3.340. After you've done that, you can use z4Root to get root access again and install bootstrapper, etc.

Now you can apply ApeX 1.3.1; you can get ApeX 1.3.1 here:

http://androidforums.com/droid-x-all-things-root/234360-rom-apex-1-3-1-droid-x-running-running-fast-can-12-16-10-a.html
[Droid X General] iceblue11:
Now thats what i needed to know. Thank you bro!
[Droid X General] eagle20g:
I need some help understanding what the benifts are and how to upgrading the kernal with benift

Also do I need to upgrade

I have 30.04 bootloader and my kernal is 2.6.32. Can anyone send me a link and why is mine a 2.6 and all the forms say 2.3?
[Droid X General] iceblue11:
Bc we were talking about the system file 2.3 not the kernal im on 2.6.32.9-gca646b6 kernal
[Droid X General] eagle20g:
Aww how do u check which "system" file you have?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mattwaddy:
As per the title the stock alarm sounds don't float my boat so wondered how I go about adding additional items? Where to place them etc

Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] FacialTurd:
I've currently got an HTC Desire, I've currently got the opportunity to swap it for an HTC HD7, the main reason is because I enjoy working with .NET (I've made a couple of applications for Android, but Java isn't my favourite).

The question I'm asking is how does the HD7 compare to the Desire in performance, features and development?

And what, if anything, will I miss from Android.

How easy would it be to switch a Desire, locked to T-Mobile UK, with an HD7, locked to O2

Last question: What kind of progress has been made in 'rooting' Windows Mobile?
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU

NO

I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU!

But seriously

I just thought of this, they havent announced a WP7 ala the HTC 7 Pro I swear if its that and the shift why I outta give 'em a black eye!
[EVO 4G General] jxr94:
Lol the title is funny.
[EVO 4G General] cruise350:
I wasn't aware there were any CDMA WP7 phones yet.
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
yeah they delayed them to 2011 for cdma
[EVO 4G General] d3x502:
Not that I really care about this thread...however for some reason I see sprint's "tongue stick to the iced flagpole" //Christmas story....

Cuz they read this and everything
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
and someone understands the meaning of my most useless thread ever!!! The truth will set you freee!!!!
[EVO 4G General] tmacgarris6727:
All we need sprint to do is give us the Evo 2
[EVO 4G General] cesarcerros31:
Sprint better release some phones and honeycomb tablets one reason why sprint is losing customers is poor choice of phones
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Losing customers? They're actually activating more customers than ever
[EVO 4G General] NHLWil:
AT&T is proof you can ride one good phone to profit. Regardless, I believe you're confusing Sprint with T-Mobile.
[EVO 4G General] AbsolutZeroGI:
+1

I hate T-Mobile

I've got 4 letters for the OP

C

T

I

A

another poster in another thread said that the Evo and the other big boys were demo'd at CTIA and Sprint doesn't really announce anything at CES.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
i believe i read sprint will be getting a webos tablet and a new webos phone in addition to the wp7 device. id say that's enough for right now. as far as an evo2 it's all speculation.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
actually t-mobile has improved alot since i was last with them and they have a decent lineup of phones available. that's where my wife and i are going when we leave sprint in a few months.
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
leave uncapped internet for capped internet? great.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Unlimited internet with throttling over 5 GB - I think it forces edge after that point. Plus you don't pay extra for HSPA+. If you pay month to month, it's very cheap. If you get a Nexus 1 and I think S (since you can undetectably use cheap non-smart phone data plans), it can be significantly cheaper than Sprint.
[EVO 4G General] JUST2SUAVE:
wow,im going to tmobile too.
[EVO 4G General] OneStepAhead:
In my opinion t-mobile has the best selection of phones around.
[EVO 4G General] backdown:
Sadly this is the truth. I so want the g2, and would drop the evo in a hearbeat for a g2 on sprint.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] WarMasterd:
Thanks to "Fishawy"

This sense fix actually fixed the My Account app, now it works like it did in the beginning!

Delete the folder: "\Storage Card\Application Data", and the file "Manilafull.xml" from \Windows folder and soft reset the device.

This fix was found here.

Thanks again Fishawy.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahosein747:
hi guys i'm new to the whole custom rom thing, anyway i rooted my evo using the unrevoked method. then i flashed a rom i think it was fresh something i can't remember. i played around with it for a while then i flashed cyanogenmod 6 for evo (6.1.2 supersonic). the problem that i'm having is that i cannot access the android market cause the app icon is missing and i cannot find it anywhere...did i miss something...please help. thanks.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ishrdz:
You need to install the google apps. The simplest way would be to download rom manager and flash the CM6 rom from the app. It gives you an option to download GAPPS (google apps) at the same time you are flashing CM6
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Buff McBigstuff:
ishrdz is right, go back to the thread where you found the cm6 rom and download and flash gapps