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[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Same issue with when they launched it to begin with. Too little, too late.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
I think the same. Even in the Android forum there is a thread declaring Android will be dead tomorrow.

I think Apple is making a smart move, and MS should really really step up.

These really are competitive times, I'm glad to witness it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Reflexx1:
Hahaha. Android is by no means dead, but it seems for some people, the sky is always falling.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Reflexx1:
I disagree. I guess we'll see.

I definitely think MS is on the right track.

The average consumer still doesn't have a smart phone, though the numbers for smart phone owners is quickly growing. So there's still some time left for new customers who are upgrading from regular feature phones. People who don't have a technical bone in their bodies, and would like to get on the smart phone bandwagon in as painless a way as possible.

The next few years will be critical. I imagine that 4 years from now, smart phones will not only be the majority, but dominant.
[Windows Phone 7 General] neoxphuse:
No, not all people have smartphones. But they're moving up quickly. I agree with the last poster, probably the next 3 years are the most critical. Everyone will be moving to Smartphones by then, and all those flip phones will be gone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] prpmlp:
Not really surprised

I think Micro$oft strategy is correct, locking down the available phone technology allows them to concentrate on features, bug fixes and user experience whilst allowing the developers stability to get used to programming the new API.

I think to make a big show of the Phone at CES would lead to many people to compare it one on one with the current and future releases of Android were it would fail as the phoneOS does not even support front facing camera yet. The new Motorolla offering using Google Chrome is amazing and should send warnings to Micorsoft

I think Micro$oft strategy will be like that of Silverlight. The first version of Silverlight was compared to Flash and most people thought hmmm. JavaScript no c# etc. However if you look at the market now things are very different especially in the corporate sector.

My predictions are the following:-

A) Apple, iPhone share will go down and Android up. Due to the lock down of the OS (Flash etc.)

B) Google Android, will start to flatten once we have multiple handsets e.g. 1.6 - 4.0. The development of apps will be harder due to fragmentation.

C) WM7 - will initially take some of RIM shares due to corporation into SharePoint, Exchange, Office Suite and cloud computing. Advantages if they incorporate flash and global update of handsets. Having a handset that can facilitate the full spectrum of entertainment (Zune, Xbox) to Coporate (Exchange, Office) with Bing, Hotmail filling in the gap will make this a powerful platform.. this in not the case today though but lets look to CES 2012
[HTC Aria Android Development] annndrewww:
EDIT: Solved with a battery pull.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coreybob:
do you need a sd card with nand build im on tmo us hd2 and would love to take out my 16gb sd to put in my acekard so shud i just buy a new sd or take it out of my hd2 still not clear about what nand is so my simple question with nand do i need a sd card
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samsamuel:
Nand is flashed to phones internal memory so no SD card necessary.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] erik077:
I have one question. If i found aplication that is not free on market but posted online like .apk and I download to pc. After that transfer to my phone via usb then install on it, am i going to be chargred for that app or there is no way that anyone can charge me or know that i have one? Thanks.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] zack2491:
No, you will not be charged for it.

I should remind you that this is piracy, which is not encouraged.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] HTCRALEIGHFAN:
arrrg shiver me timbers

only downside also to taking a apk on a torrent or whateve u will rarely get updates...more likely none
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] erik077:
Thanks for answers, everything seems to be ok and resonable ;)

Btw any good app for VPN (cisco) does not meter if has to be paid as long that work propertly?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] dkdude36:
i am not condoning piracy, but yes it is possible to just download an app from the web. appbrain does a good (but accidental) job of telling you when they need updates. you will need to find another version online though to manually update.

applanet is baisically all this but inside a single app. it is a pirated android market. once again, i dont encourage piracy, niether do i use it.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] skylar.sutton:
As someone who develops Android apps - please just go pay for it. We put a lot of effort into making these things and it's only a few dollars. The dollar you just saved was food you just took off someones table.

That said, any Android developer worth his salt should have already implemented the Market License feature. The new license model can remotely validate that your copy is legit and allows the developer to respond how they choose.

In my apps, I lock you out and show a nag screen with a market link... but I know some devs who just quietly phone home with your device ID and phone number.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] dkdude36:
creepy....

like i said, pirating isnt the way to go. just because i told you how doesnt mean i want you to.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] erik077:
That was basic questions and i do support you guys so please do not accuse me of anything right away, but no one answered question above.
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] Lmwong:
I just tried SlideScreen on my NC and it looks and works beautifully! Only a few bugs/cons:

- landscape mode doesn't work, but you can turn this option off

- application grid is not the prettiest. It feels a bit cramped. Only 8 favorite icons appear at the top where it can fit 14 on our bigger screens. The background for those top icons appears to be made for a screen half the size.

- no other email support other than gmail

I love it. This is what I want to use my tablet for. Makes me kinda wish I had an android phone instead of my iphone4.
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] vap0rxt:
I have the pro version for my Evo, never used it much. Installing now on NC, with the real estate size it might be worthwhile now that you mention it.
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] kfanciu:
Thanks for the suggestion! I installed the app and it looks great. Very functional and nice layout.

However, upon rebooting the Nook Slidescreen does not load. When trying to choose it as my home screen it just goes black, buttons appear at the bottom for a short while then all black again in a repeating loop. My other launchers still work fine. Anyone else experienced this?
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] Lmwong:
I just installed the 2.0 beta 7 apk. Landscape works. App grid is less congested. Works great!
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] 4tticuz:
hey guys,

just wondered if you know something new?

Im running 2.0beta8 version and hope they are still developing.

would be nice if you would share your information
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] rabidcow:
Press the menu button as soon as it appears, then wait for the app icons to load. It should work fine from there.
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] saefulloh:
my problem still about app drawer too big.. maybe not compatible with res resolution screen..huh, :(
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] /b/rotherJudas:
I'm trying to create a bash file I can execute from root explorer. I've attached a screenie of what I have so far, but I can't get it to make any actual changes. Help!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] /b/rotherJudas:
I've figured it out, since nobody would help. If anyone is having trouble with bash scripts PM me. I'll be more helpful than most of XDA.
[Wildfire General] hki_peter:
I was turn off the power last night when I back home, and I try to power on this morning, but I find out the phone is already power on, I have check with setting and and go into battery setting, the system show me the phone already power on on 2 hrs, it is bugs on WildPuzzle ROM ?

I am using Wildpuzzle ROM v0.6 on my phone.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jadenj5:
I'd like to start doing themes and what not, mainly for aosp 2.2 ROMS just cuz there my favorite, the main thing I want to try and recreate is the Droid X I just love the look so clean in my opinion, what all do I need? I'm not good with adb or the sdk, I could try to learn if someone is willing to walk me through it. What is the easiest yet most affective way to make/port them. Thanks in advance

sent from my froyo'd CDMA hero suckk it sprint!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] andythegreenguy:
327 posts and still cannot read... or post in the right forums... :(. Did you even try the Apps and Themes forums...? There's a sticky and multiple posts on how to go about doing this...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ranger61878:
Agreed. Wrong use of "there" and "affective" too ;)

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Sent from my Sprint SuperHero :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jadenj5:
Yayy for getting hated on for trying to be somewhat useful -_-' I have skimmed through the themes and apps forum and didn't find much other than the theme injector and the sticky had no link to actually creating. And so far every question I've asked in q&a gets ignored

sent from my froyo'd CDMA hero suckk it sprint!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ranger61878:
If you haven't found an answer, you haven't searched. Hint: there is a section that has "theme" in the title. I'd start there :)

That's also why questions get ignored.

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Sent from my Sprint SuperHero :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiefjayhawk:
Hi,

I have issues with flashing a ROM and with a nand I made earlier this evening. this is on an evo, using ClockworkMod Recovery. I successfully flashed Warm 2.2 but when I tried to apply themes to this, it just stays on the white boot screen that says "htc EVO 4G".

So I went to restrore a nand I made earlier, but I get and error saying "error while flashing boot image!"

would know what to do about this? when I try to wipe data and install from the warm2.2.zip file, it also gives me an error that says:

E:can't symlink /system/xbin[

E:failure at line 15:

symlink busybox SYSTEM:xbin/[

Installation aborted

I also tried to wipe it clean and flash EviO, but it also just stays on the white boot "htc EVO 4G" screen.

ANY help would be greatly appreciated! thank you very much!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] youngeyps:
Whats up my xda peeps i just started playing with the wiimote app for the nes and gba rims im wondering if there is one like it but for my ps3 controller its also bluetooth so is it possible to do that to play psx roms.
[HD2 General] TheATHEiST:
Anybody else read this yet?? :D

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10368444&postcount=1262

Looks like we should have a functional WP7 rom in near future ;)
[HD2 General] Marvlesz:
OMG :eek:

It's already happening :eek:

But no one has posted this in WP7 updates thread, weird .

I don't care this has just made my day :D
[HD2 General] ceo4eva:
I'm really looking forward to WM7 hopefully in the future something like

WM7/Nandroid

instead of

WM 6.5/SDroid

can exist!
[HD2 General] sadikhov77:
I do not know much about the protection, but is breaking it legal at all? I mean, i do not really care, i just wouldn't want to be tracked and chased after having it on the phone...
[HD2 General] AS78:
Here we go...

http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/...ity-reportedly-cracked-full-hd2-port-imminent :)
[HD2 General] Marvlesz:
Jailbreaking is illegal :p (outside US ), Count on that how many illegal things have you done ? :rolleyes:

I don't have an iCrap :D
[HD2 General] atomical007:
OMG! it's seem WP7 news silent for a while.Now you bump it again.:)
[HD2 General] stephandelaat:
The HD2 is going to be a all time classic!!! WM6.5, Android, MeeGo and WP7, multi O/S platform. I like:D
[HD2 General] HC4Life:
I can't believe.

This old machine runs everything. Is the most versatile device of all.

Go, Go, Go HD2 :D
[HD2 General] paulrgod:
Yes it's cracked but there's a catch!

Yes it is confirmed that it is possible to bypass it, however it requires an activation key to be dumped from an already live WP7 handset.

The Caveat to this is that each key can only be used a limited number of times - 3 apparently, and if its used more than this amount of times all devices assigned to the key will lose the ability to access live services.

So seems there's still some work to be done before a viable solution is found..

http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-cloud-security-cracked-but-theres-a-catch
[HD2 General] leesen:
very nice,wiat wp7
[HD2 General] atomical007:
Plus. Windows 98 and Ubuntu.:)
[HD2 General] sphinxo:
I really doubt jailbreaking/rooting is illegal anywhere, voids you warranty yes, but far from illegal.
[HD2 General] Marvlesz:
Tell that to them .
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
Now in U.S. law, jaibbreaking is not technically illegal. (What other countries' laws are would have to be researched by those concerned.) But, it seems that bypassing Microsoft's cloud security is another issue altogether. From a legal (not technical) point of view, it appears to be similar to hacking a version of Microsoft's Windows operating systems to appear as though it had been activated so that it can download security patches and other Microsoft software. The flashing of a new ROM on a phone itself in terms of Windows Mobile has been a gray issue with Microsoft. It is certainly hoped that flashing a WP7 ROM onto the HD2 would fall under this gray area, but cloud verification is the fly in the ointment, I assume.

At any rate, the current method of bypassing Microsoft's cloud security is not a feasible solution for the common variety of XDA-Developers flashers, as pointed out in this link in one of the above posts.

Our discussions here seem to be nothing more than academic at this point.
[HD2 General] TheATHEiST:
I wouldn't give a **** tbh. You are simply accessing free services so even if it somehow went to court wtf is a judge going to do, sod all.

No it isnt.

JBing isnt illegal in majority of places, US was an exception until now.
[HD2 General] rcrawford611:
So if I have a friend with a legit windows phone I can use their pvk?
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
Pocketnow.com: "...unless you're handy with JTAG dumping methods and have a good friend willing to share their PVK, you're probably better off just going out and buying a Windows Phone..."
[HD2 General] Marvlesz:
lol that was one of a hell of a disappointment :D
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
You sure are right in that. I can put a computer together from scratch, but the idea of doing anything with JTAG sends me running to the hills with fear.
[HD2 General] TheATHEiST:
Well I can JTAG 360's but would I fook try and do that to my HD2 :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] rcrawford611:
well that just blew my high -_- lol
[HD2 General] EclipseX:
how I can get this have samsung omnia 7 here with me...I want that key xD
[HD2 General] bountygiver:
jb/root is surely legal as you BOUGHT the device and you now OWNS it

you are not reverse engineering it and do whatever copyright crap...

also, google is now trying to make device manufactures to accept rooting so maybe in the future rooting won't void warranty and as simple as a tick in the settings.. (sos: android website)
[HD2 General] dexterslab:
cant see any issue with jailbreaking...

but that is not the real issue, installing an unlicenced copy of wp7 will be.

dont suppose theres any way to buy legit keys from ms?
[HD2 General] sathara:
its very bad that we pay and cannot do any thing to my phone .. in india its no problem ...we crack to hell
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
To be even more precise, if Microsoft follows past practices, the issue will not be flashing a cooked WP7 ROM on the HD2. Where things go into uncharted waters is that a PVK (unique private key) is required to access Live services.
[HD2 General] Airborne Aircrew:
If MS were smart they'd let people purchase a key...

I know... It'll never happen... :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
Unless another method of installing a PVK is developed that does not involve JTAG, I doubt that MS would find it worthwhile, due to lack of volume, to set up a mechanism to sell PVK licenses. Of course, there is no reason for us not to have dreams with two wishes.
[HD2 General] ozkaya:
make no mistake, in that article, JTAG is said to be needed for dumping the PVK of a friend's legit WP7 phone. If MS wants to give/sell a unique PVK they can do that remotely in 5 minutes ;) besides, to my knowledge, it is the scarcity of the keys right now, which is a problem, not installing them. Anyway, I don't think MS will ever sell these :(
[HD2 General] dexterslab:
funny really, ms might be missing an opportunity here for legit 3rd party development of wp7 for any device that could support it

in anycase, if i wanted to replace wm6 with something else (which i will at some point) i would probably pick android over wp7
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
* This is exactly what Microsoft does not want.

The major reason that HTC was not allowed to issue a WP7 ROM for the HD2 is that it technically does not follow the strict hardware requirements that Microsoft imposes on OEMs. The reasons for these strict hardware requirements are that Microsoft wants with WP7 1.) to offer end users the same experience, no matter which WP7 device they are using and 2.) to enable developers to create programs that work on all WP7 devices without modifications because there are no WP7 devices that do not meet Microsoft's strict hardware specifications. Windows Mobile phones did suffer from devices with widely different specifications that offered end users varying user experiences and frustrated programmers because they had to modify programs if they wanted their programs to work on different devices. That situation, of course, was a boon for the developers and members of XDA-Developers.

The choices now are staying with Window Mobile, going with WP7 and more restrictions, or going over to the Android side. Considering this forum, I will not bother mentioning a certain manufacturer that has a fruit for its name.
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
It was my understanding that the PVK is installed in a WP7 device during the manufacturing process. You stated "If MS wants to give/sell a unique PVK they can do that remotely in 5 minutes" Can you be more specific how you know that Microsoft can install the key remotely? I am very interested in knowing if you would be willing to share your information about why "it is the scarcity of the keys right now, which is a problem, not installing them." Is there presently a method, other than the method you stated of being remotely installed by Microsoft, that would allow an HD2 user with a WP7 ROM to install a PVK without using JTAG?

I am in no way challenging your knowledge, I am just hoping you can share more of your knowledge.
[HD2 General] hagba:
I dont think we the mere mortals need to deal with the technical complications in this HD2 Genaral section,there are dedicated threads for that in this forum,what interests me more is the process and the results.

Microsoft has invested somewhere near $1 billion for the development of the WP7, lets say if he is getting $20 for each phone that takes 50 million units to be sold just to recover the money,also consider that during this period development will not stop.

What I am trying to say here is that its not in the interest of MS to let you Bypass the .Live PVK,and that he can do efficiantly if he so wishes.

On the other hand its not in the interset of HD2 owner, like myself.who has invested $ 600 on his device,and which is running so briliantly,to throw it away and rush to get a WP7 Phone.

So I assume we have a clash of interests here???!!!
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
I think you are correct in stating the HD2 general section is not the place for more technical discussions. My apologies if I have overstepped the purposes of this section.

My interests in this topic are purely academic at this point, and I too am fascinated by this process. I am fairly familiar with Microsoft's investments and intentions.

As for clashes, I do not really see any between members of the forum, but certainly there are differences between Microsoft's interests and HD2 users.

Anyway, thanks for putting things back into a proper perspective.
[HD2 General] Mikeysm21:
I think it is in Microsoft's interest to get everybody onboard that they can. Every new user they get are bound to spend lots of money in the Marketplace, which means easy revenue for them as they don't have to participate in hacking the devices, all they do is sit there and watch the money roll in from all of the apps that people have bought. I know if my phone was running 7 then I would buy lots of pointless games that I don't need.. I think it's more the case of upholding their company morality as a company? It's a tricky one.
[HD2 General] Nevralgeek:
They know that any phone with wp7 is a potential money maker thanks to the marketplace. But they want an OS specifically made for phones that reach the wp7 requirements. HD2 almost reaches them.. but almost, so any update may crashes the hd2, people would be angry etc. Each windows phone must act in the same way, work smoothly. Not like windows mobile which was only an OS, like any windows. Any constructor could install them on any device, so we can have a lot of differences if it's not optimised... just look at the way wm acts on an htc diamond2/touch pro2 and the hd2 : same system, different hardware : not the same experience.

But is's easily hackable so people with good computer knowledge could modify wm to fit his own needs.

Wp7 is made to be usable even for someone who doesn't know anything at computers/smartphones, who could have bought an iphone but who want a better experience, something classy.

If we hack wp7 it's our problem, but it's not in MS' interest to let people dl things for HD2 and then complain cause it doesn't work.
[HD2 General] phoenixtraveller:
Good point. Once you have WP7 with live-cloud running make sure GPS is turned off. And look out for black vans with number plates: MSFT or BG666.

There is special code in the native (not .net/xap/xna framework) wp7 os that allows us to track you.;)

ps: I work for Microsoft.
[HD2 General] oneill1952:
i have been using cracked copies of windows since win95, and and i would surely use WM9 on my HD2 ... u can trak me i don give a f*ck

ooo and i have a JB iphone too :)))
[HD2 General] crisdu13:
New video: http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjE5OTU0MDY0/v.swf
[HD2 General] lukas95np:
when will we have a first relase of wm7 for our device? :)
[HD2 General] orangekid:
It actually came out yesterday in this thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10481389#post10481389
[HD2 General] gilla87:
That was pretty clever, this "rick roll'd" thing, I've never seen that before. Did you come up with that yourself? Now I wasn't expecting anything from your link, but rick astly? Classy
[HD2 General] lukas95np:
ahahah nice joke xD.. but i'm serious ;) when we can try wm7 on hd2?
[HD2 General] milanello232:
Yes, I really want to see a WP7 to HD2. I think it would be cool!
[HD2 General] nova hands:
I'd actually like to try Windows Phone 7, even without the Live stuff.

I just want to see if it's all that it's cracked up to be.

If they were to release it without the Live functionality, would the phone still be capable of all other features, like Wifi, 3.5G speeds, etc?

Would it just restrict the usage of their App Store and XBL functionality?

Could you still install 3rd party apps via a workaround?
[HD2 General] orangekid:
thanks :)

that was intended to convey the message that there is no ETA on this.
[HD2 General] AndrewSh:
I'm just wondering - who from the moderators will be wise enough to remove this jiving?

I won't post anything else here at xda if this topic is not deleted straight.

Also my source post is deleted.