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[myTouch 4G General] krohnjw:
It does sound like either some people have crazy background data they aren't aware of (or wake-lock issues) or there are some bad batteries.

I did a test yesterday to find out how well the battery would hold up as I see a lot of complaints regarding battery life.

I am running a stock rom that I rooted and removed the crap I didn't want / use (including the News and Stocks app). I do have setCPU scaling down the CPU when the screen is off, that's really it though. Scaling is ondemand.

I run 3 push email accounts (1x Exchange and 2x Gmail) and weather updates every 3 hours.

I took it off of the charger when I went to bed the previous night at 11 pm. It was off of the charger for 20 hours. I spent about 13 of the 20 hours on wifi, the rest on 3G. It had moderate use (web browsing, XDA, some photos and videos of the kids, about 25 text messages).

At the end of the 20 hours I had a 35% charge still.

For the people only getting 8 hrs out of the battery I am curious how the use/background data differs.
[myTouch 4G General] xFate:
I don't have any email linked besides gmail. I never use wifi or blue tooth. A normal day consists of mobile network only on low processor speeds with 11% brightness. I do haves screen off profile too.

I'll check facebook/twitter here and there (both have background update turned off). I text more than anything, browse the web a bit, and use the xda app a bit. The only thing i can think of is the battery monitor widget monitoring my but before that the battery life was bad too.

I literally have most things turned off and what I have on is at its minimum. I do have transition animations on but I doubt that would kill a battery that fast. There's never apps or widgets above like 2% on the battery usage screen. It's always display above 70% then idle/standby and android OS. I do think it is a battery problem cause I have low brightness but it still leads my usage by a lot.
[myTouch 4G General] sunsean:
Hmm, that's weird - I do think 8 hours is pretty low. I'm a typically light-moderate user: few phone calls, text messages, google chatting, light browsing, some gaming. And usually what amounts to about an hour a day of just playing with my phone without actually doing anything :P. My routine is generally to charge it overnight while I sleep. I take it off the charger around 8am, and it easily lasts until bed later that night. On the days when I've used it on the heavy side, it gets down to 10% or less by bedtime, but still - always makes it well past 8 hours! Plus, I keep it on automatic brightness. BTW, I'm running stock (no need to root it IMO).

For you to be getting 8 hours with the settings you describe doesn't seem right. Might want to contact TMO about getting a replacement battery or something.
[myTouch 4G General] krohnjw:
If you look at Spare Parts is there anything with a lot of partial wake usage?
[myTouch 4G General] xFate:
Any more suggestions before I call them up?
[myTouch 4G General] profen:
I'm terribly disappointed in this phone's battery! If HTC comes out with a phone that has all these features, it should be able to handle the the power needed! I read all these threads ... turn down screen, turn of this and that. So basically to make the phone ... usable you have to turn everything down and off. Just pisses me off. If i can have sync on for 24 hours something is wrong. if i can't have my gps on and listen to the radio for maybe 20 minutes a day, watch tv for half our, check my email send text without carrying an extension cord ... then htc should have just mentioned that. Instead they give you a battery llife that isn't accurate. I'm just so pissed! it's like me telling you that your new bmw sports car is pretty fast but you have to change the tires, don't listen to the radio and keep your lights off or you'll need to recharge battery and gas every hour.

Anyhow ... i get 11 hours on my battery. I have ADW launcher and fancy widget. I have my tmobile and facebook contacts sync'd. I don't check face book more than twice a day so I don't have the refresh on. The weather is every 6 hours i think. 11 Hours 50 minutes is the longest my phone survived with 11% screen brightness wifi / blue tooth / gps / etc off. I do have vibrate and sound off. I haven't made any phone calls on it yet. I send and received about 25 text. 5-10 min web page surfing. I would probably go mad if i had to make a call. I would definitely go mad if i used this phone normally.

I noticed my weather widget in sense and fancy widget was running when checking running tab in applications. Since sense runs in the background, does this mean i'm using battery running it or is it disabled? What else could I turn off in sense when using a different launcher?
[myTouch 4G General] UncleEk:
Before rooted I got around 12-13 hours of moderate use, so I think your battery is not functioning well. You may call T-Mo for a replacement. Anyway, after rooted and flashed Iced Glacier (Stock launcher, bloatware removed), I always get 18 hours or more. You may wanna try.
[myTouch 4G General] roodney:
I am running 9hrs moderate use on none rooted using wifi calling on all day in my home. Battery is 85%
[myTouch 4G General] Lockeskidney:
I'm about to put my phone on the charger and im at

with 7% battery left
[myTouch 4G General] profen:
I got a replacement battery from t mobile.my phone is stock with adw.I'm in the red now. 1d6hours with 30 text, watching 30 min video, surfing web for 2 hours,fb 15 min., 3 6 min calls. Some other stuff.can't remember. Battery is definitely better. If I use gps for 45 min my battery drops like mad.i only hit 15 hours.
[myTouch 4G General] Onefast:
good battery life

i'm at 88% battery and it's showing 19 hrs and 46min, granted it was a lot of idle, but i'm pretty happy with this phone. and i'm only rooted, stock rom, no bloat (my account is the devil!) not underclocked (set cpu not even installed)

Cell standby 34%

phone idle 32%

display 25%

android system 3%

internet 2%

android OS 2%

htc launcher 2%

i sync friendstream every hour, weather every hour and yahoo every hour.

at this rate it's gonna last 3 days!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Shoib:
Is there a working camera app from stock froyo that works on a Motorola Milestone running GOT 2.2.1? I've tried a lot of them from roms of the Motorola Droid and Nexus 1, but everytime I manage to install them, they don't install and reboot my phone.
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Just to apologize in advance to posting this thread.

I really need help on a choice im on the fence about since next week I will lose my 30 day return period.

Here it is 5 Nexus S's later and almost every unit had a different problem.

1st: soft resets at least 4 times a day.

2nd: wifi doesn't work

3rd: massive screen banding.

4th: back button did not respond to touch.

Now: screen coating is peeling.

I love Gingerbread! Its going to be really hard giving this away. I love the design and profile of this phone.

I've convinced myself that its ok for the weak wifi signal and a Gps that doesn't lock as good as other phones.

I'm torn between returning it or sending it in for repair.

I also have owned every Tmobile smartphone (MT4G, G2, Vibrant), I could exchange it for one of those.

Why lol does the best phone ive seen in a while have to be seriously half-assed.

Not because of the features but because of all those problems I put above.

I want something that works pretty solid and software mix but it looks the world is in capable of doing this.

Thanks And hope some one with patience can help me out.
[Nexus S General] shata:
Idk man I just picked up nexus s today from bestbuy, I had the vibrant and the problems you've had software/device related I have not seen on mine. Mine just OTA updated about 2 hrs ago to 2.3.1. I havent had it long enough to comment on peeling but ya.

Its solid device to me so far, But I understand what your saying after 5 NS later.
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Yeah I really dont feel disappointed. Just sad. lol

I dont want to send it in because thats 2 weeks without it And I HATE Samsung especially their costumer support!
[Nexus S General] shata:
Well I know ur sad about it, But in order for stuff to be changed its gotta cost samsung money that all these phones r coming back. I mean its a shame, but maybe you still have a old android phone to hold ya over?
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Nope lol I sold my nexus one....worst mistake of my life I guess Ill just do the return and hopefully my patience will pay off.

What sucks is that even after six months Samsung wont improve this phone as far as defects go. Look at the vibrant lol

If you have a good one with no problems hold on to it man because I wish my luck was good enough to have a good one.
[Nexus S General] Jayrod1980:
On my third one here, will use vmy black tie for another eventually. Shop around. I went to different best buys. Some get bad batched. One had 10 all with the creased glass screen. Another had none. Some of these phones were made days before the launch so though its disappointing, I believe there are good ones. I have one now but the stupid platinum case already scratched my phone.
[Nexus S General] unremarked:
Like the poster above me, I would try to exchange at a completely different Best Buy. Bad batches are called so for a reason--the entire batch may be faulty.

I picked up my Nexus S at 8:00AM Launch Day and haven't had a single issue with it at all. I had to go through three MT4Gs before I returned it completely, and three G2s before I was satisfied with the last one(it still had issues, but at that point, I was tired of dealing with it). And on the screen coating thing: I don't know what coating people are talking about and if there is such a coating, then I think alot of folks are expecting too much out of it. Review/unboxing videos and my own device had fingerprints showing up the second people started using it. Do folks honestly expect touchscreen phones not to show fingerprints/smudges ever? That's unrealistic, imo.

And it's only under direct light(i.e. a directional lamp pointed right at it) that I see them at all. In day to day use, it's not an issue for me.
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
story like this, makes me feel a really really lucky guy, since i ordered mine by mail.

it'd have been a nightmare if it had any of those defects
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
I appreciate all the insight so far.....

If i do go back to an old one it would probably be the G2

but Im thinking of getting another one and fit it with a screen protector right away to stop this peeling garbage.
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
hahaha:D

you reminded me of my friend who bought an iphone 4 the other day and he is like you " and me " he found a dead black pixel in the middle of the screen. the poor bastard couldnt sleep the night. stairing at it all the time. he knew he can go to apple store in the morning the next day. but still he couldnt sleep about it.

when he told me, i was crying laughing at him.
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Im just going to call it quits with samsung lol They should just stick to TVs

I got a Led 40 inch and no problems!!

Im never going to get a samsung phone again and im going to make sure I book mark this sucker so if I do feel tempted Ill look back at my self hahahah

Oh and ll_l_x_l_ll, man i did have that problem with the vibrant and I lost some sleep on that man for real lol
[Nexus S General] ericc191:
Mine had a lot of these same issues the OP pointed out. I returned it, but not because of said issues lol.. I needed some extra cash for Sandy Bridge! :D
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Nice investment lol
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
i just wana go OT for 1 post if the OP doesnt mind.

since you are in the know about Sandy Bridge. can you please tell me why for example should i upgrade from I7 ?

i mean, whats the real difference here ?

please keep in mind that most of my gaming on ps3 or 360. i dont play pc games much if any " the only games i played are crysis 1 and warheads"
[Nexus S General] tommyz2kool:
You just had a run of bad luck. It sucks but it happens to all of us at one point or another. Just keep trying and you will get a good one. It will be totally worth it :)
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
I should but its my 5th!!!! what kind of luck is that?

Sounds staged, like im forced to get bad ones lol
[Nexus S General] Highland3r:
Have you tried returning your phone at another best buy? (if you can) as others have said, if your local store has a bad batch and sales are low you may keep getting units from the same batch.

Depending on the staff, you could also ask about the number of returns that store has had recently.

Seems a shame after 5 phones not to try once more in the hope you get a good one!
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
I think ill return it and order it online instead maybe that will change my luck
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
This doesn't sound like a bad idea whatsoever. Seriously... I'm on my 4th SNS. I just love it too much to give up. I did two swaps at one best buy, fully returned it and drove to another one. This one seems solid now, and I have a month if I change my mind, but if that's the case, I'll return it and go online. Sounds like you guys have been having luck, no?
[Nexus S General] elkavayo:
If you look for defects you're going to find them.
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Im sorry but I dont believe this at all. I told some one the same thing a long time ago on the G2 forums I think.

I've noticed that mostly all high end smart phones are filled with defects no matter the OS in exception to Apple because they control there stuff pretty good.

But ever since my Nexus One I've been running into problems with smart phones.

For some reason feature phones never come messed up in any way.
[Nexus S General] Rusty!:
The point is (surely?) that they shouldn't be there to be found.
[Nexus S General] dragon546:
Mate that really sucks on your 5th one. If you still continue with NS and it works. Then the same week get a lottery ticket you never know !!

Sorry for the joke but I hope that puts a smile on ya face. :)
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Man Rusty, I like the way you put that!!
[Nexus S General] tommyz2kool:
I ordered mine online day 1, got it 2 days later and its perfect. If I can get a good one, so can you! :)

It'll be worth it because as you know, the NS is an awesome device.
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
I might just try that!!
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Thats what I have planned but the lady was telling me we get the same shipment I would where ever I would order it but I called Bull **** and ill order it some time soon.
[Nexus S General] SugarMouth:
Ya I regret selling my N1 as well. WTF was I thinking? I miss the quality build of that phone.
[Nexus S General] SugarMouth:
Yep! EVERY iPhone I have used, either mine or friends, have been rock solid! There is no arguing Apple has their $hit together. Just like you I have had issues with almost every phone I have had since my N1. My N1 was the most reliable and quality (non-Apple) phone I had. Every phone after has been a PITA. My HD2 had to go back, my MT3G had to go back, my MT4G went back twice, my Vibrant went back 3 times! my 9700 had the top glued on crooked and now my NS has a bezel that is less than solid but I'm going to live with it.
[Nexus S General] cyc1120:
I'm from Canada as well, bought it from a guy on Kijiji and the phone's Front Facing Camera doesn't work :(
[Nexus S General] tommyz2kool:
I dunno about that. Just because the N1 was made out of metal doesnt necessarily mean its built better. For instance every N1 I had got dust under the screen.

FWIW, I think the metal parts used in the N1 are really made of plastic that have been through metallizing process.

Of course I could be wrong and its made out of some magnesium alloy like some laptops. But magnesium alloys feel more like plastic than metal.... *shrug*
[Nexus S General] Rusty!:
The metal frame is aluminium.
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Ohhh man Im in the same exact boat!! 3 Vibrants, 2 G2's, 2 MT4G's and now 5 Nexus S's!!

I sent my Nexus One in once for the lock button but it was fixed and had no issues...Im not going to lie Apple do have their **** together as far as build and internal hardware....also I have an apple store near by and if I had problems they switched it out everytime until my year warranty is up!!

Its like I the 30 days bestbuy gives except its a year lol

BUTTTTTTT Im afraid after tasting android flavors since the G1 I cant go back to IOS!!!!

Love ya Android but dont love ya partners (SAMSUNG!)
[Nexus S General] SugarMouth:
I had an unlocked iPhone I would use as a back up between phones and when using it I would miss the ability to do things with less steps that Android offers.

I spent some time with my buddies iP4 last night and compared it to my Nexus S.

*The display on the NS is richer but the resolution on the iP4 is much better.

*I did webpage speed tests on his WiFi network and his iPhone beat my Nexus S every time, (not by much).

*The screen transitions and smoothness of iOS is still ahead of Android as well as the keyboard on the iOS is better.

*Build quality of the iP4 to NS, no comparison.

*We took the same pictures and his iP4 took better pics.

So why am I using an Android? I can get more work done faster on it.

With ever release of Android it gets smoother and faster but frankly it is behind WP7 and iOS in the refinement department.
[Nexus S General] jwr2d2:
I've only had to exchange once and have had no problems. I also went to a different best buy to exchange it

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
That being true, Im very open minded and some of my friends give me greif when I give credit to the Iphone.

I have to set this straight. If I was born yesterday and they handed me a Nexus S and an Iphone 4 (assuming they were on the same network and cost the same) I would pick an Iphone 4.

Why Android is not in the busyness of making hardware. As simple as that.

The reason the camera is better is because the the actual sensor on the iphone Is alot better than what samsung picked and thats NOT Androids fault.

I bet If google wanted to start making hardware It would kill apple. Google has partners with everyone.

Imagine a phone from Google and the parts from their partners.

* Camera sensor from Sony

* Gps, GPU, Cpu from Nvidea or Qualcomm

* Body Build from HTC

* Screen from Sony assuming LCD or Amoled Samsung.

It would be stacked but the phone would be a dream lol BUT We are not that lucky =D
[Nexus S General] SugarMouth:
Why did you exchange it?
[Nexus S General] tommyz2kool:
You are absolutely correct. I just remembered that the N1 could be engraved. The volume buttons have the same finish and are made of plastic which is why I thought the frame was a metallized plastic.
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
So online is the way to go then...
[Nexus S General] hansmrtn:
Five n's? Gesus! I have my original and no problem's
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
I know man it really does, I'm thinking about going back for a sixth too...
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
i think you should give up for now. its no longer worth it really. if samsung is so ****ty, then you shouldnt give them your money and kiss their ass for a good hardware.

other phones are coming really soon that are much better than NS " no hard feelings for anyone who like this phone "
[Nexus S General] abhilashraj:
Hopefully, that should be fixed soon if any of this filters down into honeycomb for mobiles...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-80QD5Zjyc
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Yeah man couldnt have said it better myself!!
[Vega General] vgrade:
As we don't have a Vega forum yet hope you don't mind me posting this here.

MeeGo on Vega (tegra 2 based tablet, no unsimilar to Gtab)

http://twitpic.com/3oalt5/full

vgrade
[Vega General] vgrade:
http://twitpic.com/3obgji/full
[Vega General] fakker:
:)

nice work dude, even tho i already said that on irc :D

let me know if you want someone to test it too - ive got clockwork and such installed so it won't be a problem
[Vega General] vgrade:
Nice to have our own forum.
[Vega General] vgrade:
Hi Guys,

Just though it was time for a MeeGo on Vega update.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFCmCcK_OKw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg60SfEaMoA

http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/TEGRA2

vgrade
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vijay Pather:
Hi,

I have had my Xperia for about 6 months now and I am getting a little bored of it. I want to root my phone and upgrade to the latest available firmware however I am a little confused. I have read this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=885956

Currently I am running: X10a V1.6, baseband 1.0.13, Kernel Version 2.6.29-relsemc-android@SEMC #2, Build Number R1FA014

Basically I want to upgrade to Version 2.1 with a rooted phone but specifically don't understand these steps:

3. Boot into xRecovery and install update.zip
5. Unpack the 2.0.2.A.0.24_for_X10-flasher.tar.bz2 and flash the SIN files with X10-flasher

I googled xRecovery however it says that I need a rooted phone to install the update - however I thought the point was that I was trying to root the phone? Does this mean the phone needs to be pre rooted with an earlier version before I install this software and run this update?

About the flasher: I have read this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=825675

But I am a little confused as that thread mentions a firmware and I am not sure what exactly I am meant to be doing?

All help would be great I am a complete newbie and this is the first Andriod phone I have owned/ attempted to root.

Thanks,

Vijay Pather.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SXUsr:
Hi.

First of all...

...now to sort your issue, flash and debrand with THIS, root with Z4Root install THIS, then THIS, and you'll have an up to date, debranded and rooted X10.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vijay Pather:
Thanks for that I will give it a go and let you know how it goes :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vijay Pather:
Hi,

When trying to flash the phone i get this message and nothing seems to happen:

Please choose:
1.) 32-Bit Windows XP
2.) 64-Bit Windows XP
3.) 32-Bit Windows Vista/7
4.) 64-Bit Windows Vista/7
Please choose: (1-4): 4
please connect Xperia in flash mode.
Press any key to continue . . .
Jan 9, 2011 3:07:32 PM X10flash main
INFO: start
Jan 9, 2011 3:07:32 PM X10flash readReply
INFO: <<< cmd=1,flags=1,length=46
Jan 9, 2011 3:07:44 PM X10flash readReply
INFO: ### read filed : checksum err! FFFFFFFF!=00000000
Jan 9, 2011 3:07:44 PM X10flash testPluged
INFO: <<<
Jan 9, 2011 3:07:44 PM X10flash writeCmd
INFO: write(cmd=1) (finish)
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
at java.lang.String.<init>(Unknown Source)
at X10flash.testCmd01(X10flash.java:142)
at X10flash.run(X10flash.java:380)
at X10flash.main(X10flash.java:421)
Press any key to continue . . .

EDIT: NVM found a fix!

Hmm still not working does anyone know some sort of JAVA fix?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] batman_112:
Use the non-GUI version
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vijay Pather:
Do you mind elaborating?

What keeps happening is that the solid green light keeps disappearing and the phone will boot up normally.

If I turn the phone off, hold the back key and plug the cable in, the light will stay green for a given amount of time (usually between 5-10 seconds) then turn off and the phone will boot with or without me doing anything on my computer. The thing is however when I plug the cable in while the phone is booted I don't have issues with it disconnecting by itself.

Is this an issue with the phone/ cable or something irrelevant?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Draken Korin:
not dev related, moved to q&a
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hush66:
Don't mind me asking, but have you tried to plug in your phone to your PC, fire up Sony Ericsson Update Service (SEUS) and check to see if you can update your phone to 2.1?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SXUsr:
Remove the battery for 10 seconds before trying, just turning it off isn't reliable in my experience.