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[Epic 4G Android Development] MikeyLee:
Can you tell me if I am able to flash the 3.0 ROM directly from 2.5 and do I use CW3?
[Epic 4G Android Development] megabiteg:
I believe tha as long as you have ext4 file system and cwm3 your good to go.

Sent from my Epic 4G powered by midNIGHT 3.0 w/ EXT4 ROM & No Journal
[Epic 4G Android Development] MikeyLee:
Just a note for anyone using LauncherPro. I'm using midNIGHT 2.5 getting ready to do 3.0 but I use the Go Launcher EX and it's incredible. I used to use LauncherPro, then ADW ex, Zeam etc.. and to me the Go Launcher smokes em all! Try it out.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MikeyLee:
Thanks! Much apprieciated
[Epic 4G Android Development] jdelano:
When you use Odin; do you loose any nandroid backups?

I add this in this thread because we should odin back to DK28 to start from scratch. No issues there, my question is. If something was to happen during the odin process. Does it kill my current backup made in recovery?

Just wondering if I'll have a fall back position or not.

Thanks !!
[Epic 4G Android Development] MikeyLee:
Go Launcher Ex with midNIGHT 2.5 w/EXT4 (ready to go 3.0 tonight!!!)
[Epic 4G Android Development] summershit:
Looking past the "Hot Girls Album" App :D:D:D But I love this theme. When you dropping it?
[Epic 4G Android Development] MikeyLee:
LOL the Hot Girls app is actually a "Go" app also. It's for creating online albums. They are all in the Market. Go Launcher Ex and Go Launcher themes.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jvjidNite:
Thanx alot for you help i got it working! :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] rssimons5492:
Since rooting and using midnight rom when u go to set a music file to any alarm and error pops up that says, "application package "com.sec.android.app.myfiles" not found." This has been the same thru all of the midnight roms since December.

Anyone else have the same problem or how to fix?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ptfdmedic:
OH I like. This might be in the next build. Thanks Mikey:)
[Epic 4G Android Development] JojoSteez:
Is anyone having problems with Wifi turning on. It started in 2.8 I think. Sometimes Wifi wouldn't turn on with the notification bar. I would go into settings and it would say error. I would turn on from there and it would be fine. With 3.0 I can turn on Wifi only after a fresh reboot. If I turn it off I can't turn it back on until I reboot again.

Midnight 3.0 with Midnight Theme v3
[Epic 4G Android Development] nintendo2010:
I can't download???

Y??
[Epic 4G Android Development] TheBurgh:
gonna give go launcher a trial run. like the pics, what theme are you running?
[Epic 4G Android Development] megabiteg:
This is a DK28 bug, nothing de dev's can do about it. I t had this issue but since 2.9.3 and 3.0 of the midNIGHT rom I haven't seen it happen again.

Sent from my Epic 4G powered by midNIGHT 3.0 w/ EXT4 ROM & No Journal
[Epic 4G Android Development] JojoSteez:
Ah ok. Strange, I had the exact opposite as you. I have been using Midnight since 2.4 I believe. I have only seen this bug in the last couple releases. i.e. 2.9 and up. Oh well, guess I'll just have to reboot when needed. I don't use wifi away from home, but am always on wifi at home. Hopefully this supposed official froyo comes out soon and I can get rid of this bug. I can deal with it until then. MidnightROM is the best
[Epic 4G Android Development] JojoSteez:
Oh yeah, did have a question. I was wondering why you decided to go with the All in One flashing. I always hear its bad to restore data but it is included with the flash now. I havent had any problems with this flash, but when I was using SyndicateROM I restored data and got FCs all over, so I never restore data. I just use titanium to backup my apps and restore those only. Just curious why the change.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ptfdmedic:
Not so much my decision as I am using bonsai as a base. I believe the way it's being done in this case will limit the amount of errors we will see. You will at time have to wipe everything between builds if applications change but that's really the only time you HAVE to wipe. I would wipe prior to flashing if you are coming from another developers rom or upgrading to a newer midNIGHT release where apps have changed.
[Epic 4G Android Development] summershit:
Thanks again Mikey!!!

Installed and lovin' it. I was a die-hard ADW user before, now.............

Thanks to Ptfdmedic for another great rom.

On a side note. I attempted to flash AOSP screen lock multiple times. It wont take. any ideas?

Also when are you go to create/post a user banner like Syndicate/Baked Snack etc..... I support midNight Rom and want everyone else to know it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] omair2005:
Sketch theme

**Go Launcher EX is the way to go. There are def some bugs and features that are not implemented yet (1. No Auto-close folder after selecting an item like ADW EX. 2. You can't customize the transparency of the folder like ADWEX. 3. If you put a folder on the desktop and put some apps in there, the apps wont show up in the app drawer, you have to access it thru the folder, which I don't really mind)
[Epic 4G Android Development] megabiteg:
Hey medic, I have a special request for the next ROM:

I would love that we can change the font like the BBCasual font (blackberry). I kind of like that option on the Vibrant... :( Epic 4G

BBCasual: http://www.fonts.com/FindFonts/detail.htm?productid=426256

Thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] celsius0010:
We can change fonts go to medic's blog http://lostandtired.com/, read some of his posts, then click Android Development, on the right there are edify ready zips, comfortAA fonts look good but I use Eager Naturalist.. If you use any other zips you may want to backup first, google car dock wouldnt flash right so I had to unzip it and extract the apks to avoid force closes and missing apps...
[Epic 4G Android Development] adamw1101:
Is anyonelse having mms problems?
[Epic 4G Android Development] MikeyLee:
Right on! Yeah I love this launcher alot! Glad you do also. Go SMS is pretty nice too. :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] MikeyLee:
The theme in the pics is a GoLauncher theme called Sketch but the wallpaper is one I saved from an ADW theme called DarkEdge Blue
[Epic 4G Android Development] hemi dart:
GoLauncher is great. Thanks
[Epic 4G Android Development] flyers2114:
I am a die hard ADWL user...but sounds like I mat have to give this Go a shot...thx guys!
[Epic 4G Android Development] summershit:
Man.....this Golauncher with Go SMS and the midnight theme wallpaper is it!

Sent on an Epic midNight.
[Epic 4G Android Development] TheBurgh:
thanks. I have been running go launcher all day and I must say....pretty impressed.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Damar1979:
does wireless tethering work on this rom?
[Epic 4G Android Development] JojoSteez:
Ah that's cool then. I got used to wiping everytime midNIGHT was updated so it was pretty nice not to have to reload everything. Thanks again for an awesome ROM.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Pskillz87:
I love this rom, how do you move the dalvik cache to the sd card like in viper's rom I need more space for apps ?
[Epic 4G Android Development] troyolson92:
Medic.

I enjoy your rom and also have a child with autism. Definately brings lots of tears as she's so sweet. Keep up the site bro! Great work with your awareness! You've helped my girl so much wit what I've learned from your site.

Bro, your a saint! Please keep what your doing lots of us need the help!
[Epic 4G Android Development] arivis:
ROM Download Link

Can anyone help me find the download link for the latest version of this ROM please?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ptfdmedic:
www.lostandtired.com click on the Android Development Page at the top....
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dante of the Inferno:
So does that mean that if I'm updating from midNIGHT 3.0 onward, I don't need to wipe anything anymore? I can just reboot the phone into ClockWork 3.0 and install the latest ROM? Or can I even just install straight from the ROM Manager 3.0 app?
[Epic 4G Android Development] flyers2114:
Yes this should be the case..I only say should because anything can happen...cant speak for rom manager as I have not tried that yet....but dont see why you would not be able to...
[Epic 4G Android Development] MeetFace:
Hey ptfdmedic, just a bit of feedback, b/c I know it helps.

With all the midnight fuss I decided to take it for a test drive. Once I got everything set up, I'm very happy with the general responsiveness.

My experience installing, it took me two separate tries to get things stable.

Flashed to stock ODIN, rooted with CWM3, wiped data/cache/dalvik each three times, flashed midnight.

First boot gave me some serious problems, nasty boot loop where it boot into the homescreen, give me about 15s, and then reboot. All the while it would give little haptic feedback vibrates at random. So I pulled the battery and re-flashed.

First boot after the flash took quite a while, but I got it up and running. immediately decided to restore apps via titanium, all went well, except when I tried to set LAuncherPro as my default launcher, it would not persist as my 'default'. I did try using HomeSwitcher, clearing defaults, and re-selecting to no avail. I tried fixing permissions in ROM manager & CWM3, and no change. Only way to get launcher pro to persist was to 'freeze' the default launcher in titanium.

I then decided to try and flash one of the themes. Booted into CWM, flashed theme, and boot wouldn't get passed the boot animation (which I love btw).

So, I pulled battery, and went back to Viper to get my phone working again. Did not have the problem of launcher default selection persisting.

I gave it one more try last night, this time I did not re-odin, but I wiped 3x each, & flashed your ROM, again, booted, uninstalled titanium, and decided I ought to reboot for kicks and giggles. Upon reboot stuck with the boot animation.

Booted back into CWM, decided to re-flash, this time I did not wipe anything, and I was able to get it running stable. The one problem that persisted is the ability to have the launcher defaults persist. I have run across this with other ROMs recently, so I don't know if it has something to do with setting permissions properly with the new scripting environment, or what it is exactly, but something is amiss.

So, a bit of an FYI, overall great ROM. I wish the best for you and your family. As a father, I can't imagine the types of struggles raising an autistic child, let alone three. You obviously have been blessed with a capacity the face those challenges.

All the best.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mis3:
Please do not take this in a derogatory way, but I just have to ask as I am curious. Why did you flash to stock Odin before installing the Rom? and why did you wipe when the instructions do not say to do so? (They say wipe IF you have any force closes afterwards). From reading this thread and Bonsai, it seems like nearly all flash problems are from people who Odin'd or wiped before flashing, and I am trying to understand why.

I have installed many ROMs, both 2.1 and 2.2, and have never even downloaded Odin. I have had trouble only two times: one when I didn't follow instructions (instructions said to wipe and I didn't) and one when I flashed the Baked Snack Ultimate (undervolt) Kernels that my phone couldn't handle (fixed by flashing new one). On many of these development boards (but especially on the ViperRom boards), I see people using Odin to go to stock before flashing, and sometimes even formatting their sd card, and I guess I just don't understand why if they didn't have a bad flash.
[Epic 4G Android Development] iSaint:
When you odin before you flash a rom it minimizes the chances of something going wrong when you're running the rom and helps make the rom run smoother IMO
[Epic 4G Android Development] flyers2114:
I simply cannot agree with this statement....
[Epic 4G Android Development] iSaint:
Really? that's what i thought lol

My bad -_-
[Epic 4G Android Development] comtrade:
Same experience that I had. Then I thought I would try bonsai to see if I had success. I had the exact same issue, haptic feedback vibrating and then soft boots. I couldn't even get to recovery so I had to Odin back to stock DK28. This time did the 3 times wipe on the data, cache and dalvik and all is well on Bonsai.

So I attributed the issue for midNIGHT somehow coming from the Bonsai kernal but I could be wrong, just a guess.
[Epic 4G Android Development] SINNN:
I like this rom. But its missing tw and stock files like the native file explorer. How can I get those back?
[Epic 4G Android Development] iSaint:
Go to the android developement page on medic's website there are a bunch or Edify zips on the left side including Tw restore.
[Epic 4G Android Development] soundwave4:
Thank you for a great ROM!

Did my research over the past few days (learning about the new-to-me CW3 in the process) and chose Midnight over the others and it is way faster and smoother than the last ROM I was on.

Quick question though: Where in the ROM is Spare Parts, Swype and Google Talk? I don't see them in my app drawer or in the Settings app.

I searched the thread and didn't see the answer, so if I missed it, I apologize.

Continued success and keep your head up!

:D
[Epic 4G Android Development] iSaint:
Follow the directions on my post above yours you will find the zips you are looking for there
[Epic 4G Android Development] asj2583:
Was just wondering if midnight will ever have apps2sd cause im running out of space for apps.
[Epic 4G Android Development] soundwave4:
Thank you for the quick response iSaint.

I saw those packages, but didn't see GTalk specifically.

I'll dl them and find what I need.

These Edify scripts are installed via CW recovery correct?
[Epic 4G Android Development] iSaint:
yes sir just flash in recovery
[Epic 4G Android Development] MeetFace:
I have problems with understanding why starting vanilla would be detrimental.

If you can give us a few good reasons why, perhaps I'll begin to give your notions credence.

When you Odin, you rule out a myriad of potential causes.

If I follow your, logic, then first-time flashers should expect to have problems even when they follow directions.

Sent from my EPIC VIPERRom 4.0.2b EXT4 Samsung Epic 4G
[Epic 4G Android Development] SINNN:
I found it. But its not the stock tw. Anyone know of a other location
[Epic 4G Android Development] ptfdmedic:
You can also accomplish the same thing by wiping x3 prior to flash. But truth be told you can probably never go wrong by odining first. Just not really necessary
[Epic 4G Android Development] ptfdmedic:
Funny you mentioned that. In my the current beta state of my next build I added My Files back. I noticed that uploading to Youtube was broken without it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] SINNN:
Great work. I like it but tw missing kills it for me. I dl the tw restore from your site but that's not stock. Its different.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mis3:
I didn't say it would be detrimental, I was just wondering why you do it as a matter of course. Flashing this ROM took me almost no time. The AIO process was wonderful. I downloaded the ROM, put it on my SD, quickbooted to CWM, then flashed. My apps, preferences, and data were all immediately restored upon reboot. In fact, it was so easy that when I decided to remove a few things from my system apps, it was simpler for me to just go into the zip on my SD card, delete the apps from the ROM, then re-flash again.

It never dawned on me to spend all that time using Odin to go back to stock, flash rom, re-download all apps, set up preferences, re-sync data, etc. when the only advantage is a perception that it reduces the chances of problems. I'm not a developer, so I don't have hundreds of ROM flashes, but I am probably in the dozens, and as I said originally, I have never once used Odin. I do typically wipe data/cache/dalvic 3x before flashing, except in this case when the instructions said not to do it. IF there is a problem, I can always wipe then re-flash. Worst case scenario, I find out how to use Odin out of necessity.

I really am still a beginner with this stuff, so I can only make one solid argument about going back to stock being detrimental to flashing ROMS, and that is if I had to go to stock each time, I would be much less likely to experiment with new ones. A process that cumbersome would turn off so many people, myself included, and I just don't want others to think it is necessary.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JojoSteez:
I assume you're talking about the app. You can just download from the market. apps to SD is a feature of 2.2 which midNIGHT is based on. I myself have the App 2 SD Free and have moved many apps to the SD card.
[Epic 4G Android Development] asj2583:
It doesn't move all the apps. I have the app to sd pro and only allows me to move certain files. From my understanding this feature has to be added by the dev of the rom and im not talking about the stock apps to sd that come with froyo fyi.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Krazy_P@:
Seriously? Idk maybe its that I have bad luck or sumthing but I've used odin a few times (after bad flashes & 2 get my gps 2 lock again...) not 2 mention I odined my phone 2 dk28 setup so I could use the roms that run on dk28, maybe I totaly spaced but how else does one get dk28 setup w/o using odin? also I odin back 2 stock when I have a problem w/ a new rom (I 9x wipe every time unless told not 2) just 2 rule out bad data comming back from old flash ect... sorry 2 thread jack and great work on the rom pdfmedic and thanks for all the edify versions of stuff as I have used quite a few thanks is the least I can say...
[Epic 4G Android Development] flyers2114:
No worries was not saying it is bad.....I should have specified....I am basically not agreeing that it is needed....

I was not saying it is detrimental.....just not needed....I for one never Odin back...and especially with the way this new rom is set up Odin is simply not needed...that's what i was getting at...

This is what I was getting at....
[Epic 4G Android Development] MeetFace:
If you are coming from prior ROMs, this may not be the case.

I for one have helped flash several beta ROMs to help work out the bugs, so Odin isn't that big of a deal...its 20 more minutes.

If I understand correctly, it is easy to mess permissions up with the new scripting interface, if the rom you were in previously had a problem with permissions, I don't think wiping would remedy that.
[Epic 4G Android Development] megabiteg:
Agreed!

In addition I would say that if your moving from one rom to another (at least this is what I do) I always odin to dk28 stock, root with cwm3 and flash away. I feel I have a full fresh start.

Though wiping is good we have to know the following: formatting or deleting always leaves traces behind, that's the reason why we have to wipe 3x before flashing, but for what I've seen in my carrier working with file systems is that there is nothing more destructive and with less opportunities for recovery or garbage left behind than imaging, and that exactly what odin does, it drops an image which is a full (top to bottom) restoration of everything: data and even the free space allocation on the phone; nothing doesn't get touched or missed by odin.

Odin is our friend, if your in the rom business, performing a full wipe from time to time shouldn't be bad idea, and should be a problem...

Sent from my Epic 4G powered by midNIGHT 3.0 w/ EXT4 ROM & No Journal
[Epic 4G Android Development] MikeyLee:
Im I am already rooted and running 2.5 dual, can I install CW3 and flash 3.0 or do I have to go back to stock first?
[Epic 4G Android Development] MeetFace:
You shouldn't have to Odin...but if youre following the thread, you know what I would suggest ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] ptfdmedic:
Here is the best way to think about odining. Think of it has a "clean" installation of Windows as apposed to an "upgrade" installation. You can always upgrade but it won't always fix your problems. You are ALWAYS better off doing a "clean" install of Windows. Same goes for the Epic. However you can upgrade most of the time without to many problems. If you run into problems then you try the "clean"install.

Make sense?
[Epic 4G Android Development] asj2583:
You know if we had amon ra recovery we would have to worry about wiping 3+ times or odin to avoid any errors. Just saying...
[Epic 4G Android Development] SINNN:
Ok. I figured out how to get the stock tw back. since this is a ext4 file system, I loaded Bonzai 2.0 in which has the stock touch wiz and other stock apps My Files. I used "sdx stock app" to back up the stock files from bonzai. Then flashed midnight rom and restored the we bonzai files. Now I have everything back.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JojoSteez:
The dev of the app has to enable the ability to move to SD. If the app developer hasn't enabled it, it can't be moved from my understanding. I know some 2.1 ROMs have the ability, but that is the rom developer.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mis3:
You CAN go back to stock if you want, it shouldn't hurt, but most likely, it's a waste of time. Why not just flash first and seed if you have any problems.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ptfdmedic:
midNIGHT V3.1 Sneek preview Video. Navigate to the Android Development Page.
[Epic 4G Android Development] megabiteg:
Well, you might be right that amon ra is lot better than cwm but nothing is 100% perfect. In the battle of odin vs any recovry mod, odin will stand as the tool that will guarantee success 100% of the time, every time.

Mods are mods and they do their job, but nothing beats imaging.

Put it like this: I can format a drive and still recover info off of it, that's because there will always be a journal or even shadow data left in the fat portion of the file system, but by imagin you replace the journal and the fat all together. Read more about symantic ghost and you'll understand more about the distructive nature of this technology.

In the military I work with file systems and recovering data off destroied or damaged drives, nand or spin disk, I have much experience on that part of the subject.

Sent from my Epic 4G powered by midNIGHT 3.0 w/ EXT4 ROM & No Journal
[Epic 4G Android Development] aal1:
which version of bonsai is this based on ? 1.1.4 ? 2.0 ?
[Epic 4G Android Development] iSaint:
i Believe 2.0
[Epic 4G Android Development] capitaltpt:
Hey guys, vote for midNight on Android Central's Epic page here:

http://forum.androidcentral.com/epic-4g-rooting-roms-hacks/56762-rom.html

Also, medic, I watched your video on 3.1 and was wondering if you'd make a separate zip of just the LG Live Wallpapers.

Thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] ptfdmedic:
when i get a chance
[Epic 4G Android Development] youngpro83:
Man the new ROM looks good!! I cant wait till its ready...I have some stuff I want to try on my phone but Im going to wait until the ROM comes out so that if I dont like the changes I can just flash the new ROM and start from scratch!! Thanks for the hard work!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] ptfdmedic:
So what do you guys think of the new video. It won't win any oscars but you get the point.
[Epic 4G Android Development] youngpro83:
The video to the new ROM? I like it. Cant wait for it to drop!!! Ill be the first in line!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] mis3:
Video does a very nice job explaining the changes. This may be the first Midnight Rom I don't flash though. Not because I have a problem with anyone you have done, but because my phone has never been better on 3.0 and I may not want to risk it for cosmetic changes.

On a side note, as a parent of one pre-k child with PDD, I can't even imagine how you and your wife have the energy to deal with 3 special needs children. I've been reading your blog daily and sent a small donation a couple of weeks ago (paypal email doesn't match my posting name, but the initials match up) and am really happy to see it went towards the crash room.