yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G General] housry23:
I had this happen once a while back when the new radio's first came out. I flashed it, the phone rebooted and went to the white HTC Evo screen and then went to a screen with a picture of an EVO with two green arrow's circled around it with no text and it just sat on that screen. I thought something was broke so I pulled the battery and rebooted and it went to the same screen. I tried again and again. I thought maybe my battery didn't have enough juice and messed up the radio update. I plugged it in and got nothing, so I tried booting into hboot. Nothing. I then pulled the battery, put it back in and plugged it in and low and behold I got the yellow light. I let it charge for a little bit and came back and turned it on and went back to the screen with the Evo and the green arrow circle. I said **** and thought that my phone was f'ed up. I left it on for a little while and when I went back to try to mess with it again it was in recovery. WOOT! I didn't know that it took that long to flash the radio and that the phone would reboot to this Evo screen with the green circle around it. To the guys that still have bricked phones, keep trying to pull the battery and put back in until you get a charging notification. Let it charge for a while then try turning it on and leave it on to do its thing. It just might fix itself. I know how you are feeling right now guys. I've been there. If you can't fix it then take to the Sprint store and play dumb. Tell them you turned it off last night, plugged it into the charger and when you got up to turn it on it wouldn't. You should get a replacement on the spot if you have TEP for free. If you don't have TEP $35 and you'll get a replacement.Keep us updated here though.
[EVO 4G General] aniv:
Running Myn's Rls 5 since he made it public. 0 issues on Hardware 03 Evo; I was running fresh earlier and I had the radio,wimax,pri etc updates.

Thanks for the awesome ROM myn!

Love it.;)
[EVO 4G General] bigmoogle:
I don't use Myn but I feel the need to defend the man. His rom didn't brick anyone's phone. His instructions didn't lead anyone to brick a phone.

Pulling a battery during a major radio/pri/nv will brick your phone. It is totally irrelevant what rom you are on, or intend to flash.

If you brick it, take it to sprint, say what you did pulled the battery doing an update. They will wince and scold you because it was a stupid thing to do and then they will order a new phone.

I know all this because I did this too, but way before Myn even came out with his rom.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
A rom can brick a phone. Thats why they leave disclaimers.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Maybe from now on we should say ........"I was flashing a "certain" rom and it bricked my phone." Because, you see, this way the fan boyz won't get their panties in a bunch. Then after a few more pages of posts you can eeeeease your way into saying what Rom it was.

I'm so sick of all the babies in here. The man had a problem. He was flashing myns Rom. Take it for what it is and try to help the man for Christ sake. Or....instead post a bunch of blather (like the previous several pages) about how good you are at giving lip service to myn or cyanogen or who ever. We all know they are good at what the do k.
[EVO 4G General] trukenx:
i think the tagline should be.... MY IMPATIENCE BRICKED MY PHONE

when running the radio wimax Rom update, it takes a while, mine was also stuck on the some screens about 3 - 4 times, one of them was a completely deformed box, but just wait it out. I have been flashing roms since my old XDA O2 wimmob device from like 7, 8 years ago never bricked a device. This process has become easy and simple all you have to do now is make sure you have a good charge be patient it could take over 10 sometimes 20 minutes and by the ****ing Gods.... DON'T INTERRUPT THE PROCESS ESPECIALLY ON A RADIO UPDATE!!!!!
[EVO 4G General] pinetreehater:
The combo radio update tried to get me. It looked goofy going thru the process. On the second box and arrow update picture after the first reboot, it sorta Hung. LUCKILY, I put it in my pocket. After quite a few minutes it went back to recovery. After I then flashed Myns RLS 5, it would hang on the white HTC screen and require a battery pull.

I flashed and cleared caches 3 different times and it would hang. Finally restored back to cm6 I just happen to have (i was actually coming from Myns 4 when this all started.

Afterward, I flashed myns THEN the radios and everything worked fine. Problem was not with Myns instructions. I didn't see any major wait comments on the radio update page....and thinking it was straight forwaRd I just flashed the update. Guess I should have read some threads.
[EVO 4G General] trukenx:
Yeah its next to impossible to brick your phone from a "ROM" flash, flashing radio, spl or what ever is what has always been people downfall.... what I mean is it very important to be careful when messing with radio updates, pulling the battery is a no no. Myns Rom had nothing to do with bricking the phones, it by itself cannot brick a phone. I would admit this update took the longest I have seen on my EVO, but understanding NEVER INTERRUPT is key. Saw this issue with the t-mobile MDA, TILT, G1 and other devices I have had and followed here.
[EVO 4G General] 00_MACKIE_00:
lol , this thread is funny.
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
I haven't read the whole thread, but I had the same issue a while back and this is how fixed it. I pulled the battery out, took out the sdcard, put the battery back in, rebooted the phone and it worked. Hopefully that helps.
[EVO 4G General] powered195:
Yes it is....I got an idea, dont flash roms, etc. if you dont know what your doing or have patience.

you did blame the rom when it was user error, you failed get an iphone!!!!

directed towards OP!!
[EVO 4G General] hummer06:
myn's rom is not the culprit im a noob to this whole rooting thing had my evo for a week have flashed a lot of roms but before READ all about the whole rooting thing and did exactly what the dev said to do before flashing so my point is that if you are unsure or impatient then stay away from flashing and dont blame the dev you have been warned.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Myn fanboys galore....
[EVO 4G General] bigmoogle:
Name one listed in the dev section. Just one.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
I said can. List one rom in dev section where there is no disclaimer, just one!
[EVO 4G General] Hemidroids:
Every product on the planet has a disclaimer. EVERYTHING. It dosent mean anything other than telling stupid people dont pour this hot cup of mcdonalds coffee down your crotch and not expect it to burn you.

The coffee is just fine.
[EVO 4G General] myn:
Sigh...

It's always the folks not in the know that start the rumors...
[EVO 4G General] mmarks9156:
I flashed Myns ROM this morning and the radio update with no problems. I also flashed Gingerbread keyboard working great.
[EVO 4G General] bigmoogle:
Sigh.

Let's try this again.

List one rom in the dev section that bricked a phone.
[EVO 4G General] arcurtis:
Thank you. For anyone who read the post I was never blaming MYN when I posted this. Its ridiculous to me that people feel the need to defend him when there was nothing to defend in the first place. I was simply saying when I installed the ROM my phone bricked. I pointed no fingers simply stated a fact. I like his ROMS and my problem occured when I installed it. Rooting etc is not perfect and mechanical and human errors occur. So pull your panties out of your ass and for everyone who has never ****ed anything up, well your perfect. Thanks for everyones creative input into finding a solution to what probably happened
[EVO 4G General] 00_MACKIE_00:
Lol to the OP, I believe its not that people are defending Myn, its that you managed to brick your EVO flashing a rom. I think you should head to the nearest Sprint store and get a flip phone because your not going anywhere with your EVO.

Later!!
[EVO 4G General] Cole28:
Wow that really called for? Sometimes **** happens. I bricked my first moment when I messed up flashing something.
[EVO 4G General] powered195:
Retards happen!
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Myns
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Sigh... Its always the devs fault for not making video walkthroughs.
[EVO 4G General] roscoenr:
Myn's rom did not brick any phones people pulling battery when trying to update radios did big difference the op said bok self it was not myn's rom

rom no bricks

Users pulling batteries many bricks
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Thanks for clearing that up
[EVO 4G General] craigbailey1986:
Are you serious? Or was that sarcasm?

Hopefully sarcasm....
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Sarcasm
[EVO 4G General] jacoballen22:
I lol'd so bad @this thread (mainly the responses) especially the one about dropping a deuce and about the video walkthrough. I feel worse for Myn cause his ROM seems like it has been blamed..

from my EVO using XDA app.
[EVO 4G General] lowetax:
brick with green blinking notification means ?

that deuce was a great line! i was going to add maybe acey - deucy !

me < ------ mr. anal mr. follow routine

who had the most awesome evo out there

never an issue

just bricked it

went to reboot a nan backup

and the second i hit reboot

i realized it was a clockworkmod nan backup

and i have amon ra v2.2 recovery

so it shut off

i held volume down and power and

heard it vibrate 3 times

then dead

changed battery - plugged in - no led no nothing

took battery out - back in after 5 minutes

plugged into pc - now green blinking led

cmd adb can't find device

any ideas/suggestions ?
[EVO 4G General] computerjunkie:
I got a brand new evo replacement (hardware 004) 2 days ago...I rooted, and loaded Myn's newest ROM...My phone works just fine except the few bugs here and there but defnintely no brick.

I hope you updated your radio, wimax, etc. before you flashed the ROM
[EVO 4G General] 00_MACKIE_00:
if you bricked a moment you seriously shouldnt be touching another smartphone.
[EVO 4G General] craigbailey1986:
So is phone back on?
[EVO 4G General] Cole28:
Ya and if your going to be a **** instead of actually helping people you don't belong on this forum. A moment is no harder to brick than an evo is, but I'm guessing you mr perfect and have never messed up on anything. But if being rude to people is how you make yourself feel like a man more power to ya.
[EVO 4G General] roscoenr:
Dude your new and all you can do is cause problems, I have one word got you BYE!!!
[EVO 4G General] lowetax:
made it back ! yeah baby !

battery pull

pulled sd card and backed it up

made sure it was readable

plugged into pc - adb said couldn't find device

plugged into ac let green led blink

after an hour or so of panic

it booted back up to recovery !

me < ------ one happy camper again
[EVO 4G General] lil-dice:
awesome man, i about **** a brick when i read you bricked.
[EVO 4G General] lil-dice:
I screwed up flashing the radios. I was on amon ra 1.8. I battery pulled at least 3 times during green arrow during radio flash. I may be a moron, but I never saw in caulk's thread on the first page a description of the radio flashing process and what order to perform them in.

Anyway, I was able to flash RLS5 even after battery pulling 3 times during radio flash, however I did lose my RSA keys and wimax mac, so I had to restore to my RLS4 nand which wouldn't even stay stable enough to boot RLS 4 (probably because of #15 kernel).

After that I flashed RLS 5 again and then radio/wimax combo and was good to go and have my RSA keys and mac again.

So far at least all the bricks have to do with radio/wimax combo + clockwork.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
funny thread...

OP .. he was not clear enough. he never blamed anyone or anything. He made a mistake...human error.

I am glad you got a replacement. Good luck with next attempt.

others here... made this into a mountain of silly assumptions.

ROMs do not brick ...

they do have disclaimers.. for people that can not take take ownership if their mistakes.. love to blame others.

always be careful with Radio updates.. most real bricks are due to mistakes in Radio updates.
[EVO 4G General] jmann_25:
I have somewhat of a newbie, but with a technical background and a lot of good friends. As far as bricking, I have bricked mine several times, as well as watched friends do it. I was able to get it back every time though. I think the best thing I did was to spend a few weeks in Myns forum and learned a ton.

As far as fixing your current issue. Do you know what version of Clockwork you were using? Do you know what radios you had? What exactly were you flashing or updating last when it did not boot back up.

Best case would be to find another rom, probably a stock, and try to flash it. Can you get into recovery at all? You may need to flash Aman Ra if Clockwork is giving you the issue. Keep at it, and you will learn more and feel accomplished when you fix it yourself.

Myn's roms are good. With all the new radios, and Clockwork versions out there, many people have been having issues, even with other roms.

good luck
[EVO 4G General] derekwilkinson:
Bricking an Evo is almost impossible. Only real way to do it is to flash an incorrect radio or f**k up the radio flash. Very unlikely. Not having the ROM boot isn't the same as bricking.
[EVO 4G General] arcurtis:
I can't get my phone to boot up at all as of yet. I was using the latest Clockwork Mod.. I find it strange I can not even get an LED to light up when I plug it in. I've removed the battery, switched them out, left it unplugged overnight and tried plugging it back in. My new phone will be in this week so I will root and get back at it. It was the radio flashing when everything went bad and I got the android guy with the arrow and could not reboot. Battery pull then resulted in a completely dead phone. You are correct I like MYNs roms alot and was just upgrading at the time and had never had a problem. Lesson learned and I'll dive into MYNs page.
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
Most of these bricks are a result of not letting the flash completely finish.

I can't remember if the green circle/arrow is animated or not, but do know from flashing pc boards and other devices that you don't interrupt a flash.

Although the radio/pri/nv/wimax flash are all initiated using the same method, the way the flash gets applied after accepting the warning is different. I do believe the content of these get sent to a different flashrom of the device than rom's or other flashes which get sent to the file system.

The typical bios flash on a pc is a multi step process. The flasher performs the following steps

1) confirms the user wants to commit to flashing

2) erases the flashrom

3) write to the flashrom

4) verifies the flashrom

Cutting power anytime during steps 2 & 3 may result in catastrophic failure if the device has no failsafe.

I'm not exactly sure of the process on the evo, but imagine it's similar. I consider 5-10 min reasonable wait time for the device to finish applying the flash. Only after 15 min or longer would I consider pulling the battery. I don't recall experiencing delays this long when flashing anything but roms though. With the radio and other similar updates, access was restored in a few minutes.

I can't remember if this has been covered, but if the radio failed to flash, wouldn't reflashing it through hboot be successful?
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
Only funny if I hadn't seen it when warm updater had most of my download done.

So I get something out of my wasted time...

I've never used the updater before. Does it handle it all for me or just show me there is a new version to flash and DL it? Seems too good to be true...
[EVO 4G General] lowetax:
**** a brick

drop a deuce

too much!
[EVO 4G General] lowetax:
it would seem logical for BIG WARNING WHEN FLASHING RADIOS

go drop a deuce and let the radios do their thing - no touchy until it returns to

system reboot in the recovery menu.

plus, people read all the time, pull your battery when hung up, so ...
[EVO 4G General] lowetax:
we've always said if you have power, you can come back.

but with no power for a good 20 minutes, you feel like you're done.

but when the green blinking led started - all of a sudden a glimmer of hope.

it was about an hour on the charger until, after numerous tries,

volume down + power fired up the evo into bootloader.
[EVO 4G General] lowetax:
have you taken sd card out and checked it with pc ?

my pc couldn't at first, so i put my old 2 gb sd card from motorola flip phone in

just to make sure my pc could read it

and then it could read the evo's 8 gb card.

i even had evo plugged into ac with battery and sd card both out.

i can't remember, but i don't think i did anything that caused the green led to start blinking.
[EVO 4G General] lowetax:
perhaps, if you can get to hboot/bootloader
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
Good point. If it doesn't boot to the 3 skate board screen, then it's pretty much bricked, unless there some sort of usb access still remaining.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Lol
[EVO 4G General] DROID_BOOST_75:
i flashed his rls5 with no problems at all.i have been running it for 3 days now with no problem so i don't know what that guy did but he's not telling the whole story.
[EVO 4G General] craigbailey1986:
No if it boots there then there is still hope...
[EVO 4G General] sidepart:
I know a common problem people have been having is that the USB charging port demounts inside the phone causing it to not be able to charge anymore. Do you think this could be the possibility? Even with a bricked phone, I'd imagine you should be able to charge the battery.

My thoughts are that the USB port could be broken and your phone ran out of charge. Try a new battery. If you have an HTC Hero or a buddy with an Evo, stick the battery in there and charge it up, see if you can boot your Evo up then.
[EVO 4G General] budroux:
Hi, Considering I am still learning the ends and outs of things I have a question concerning this matter. First off I would like to know exactly where the code is that would offer a path that tells the phone to charge the battery. Is it in the RUU or is there some sort of BIOS built in that RUU's are build off of. I ask this because it sounds from my limited point of view that maybe in the middle of the ROM Flash the battery died? And now he possibly has 2 dead batteries? I have seen the warnings to flash with enough battery power but I have not seen any comments on what would happen if not. Could this be the case here? Maybe verify a fresh battery and whalaa...hboot? Just a thought...
[EVO 4G General] arcurtis:
No I was running I full battery charge. The ROM had installed and then the radio was installing. The green android of death with the arrow popped up on my screen and I did a battery pull. I put another charged battery in and it failed to do anything and has ever since. It all happened with the radio installation. I had wiped and nandroid prior to installation. So I was wondering if it could be a hardware issue that coincided with the installation of the radio. Its very weird. I'm not an expert by any means, but have installed quite a few other ROMS including the previoius MYNS with no issues. I guess the only way to find out is to have someone take it apart to look at it
[EVO 4G General] deathsled:
Have you read the whole thread? He told us the whole story. We all know his problem. He pulled the battery out while the phone was updating the radios because he was impatient and thought it was hung....
[EVO 4G General] budroux:
Ok this is gonna sound stupid I guess considering the battery must be in before the AC cord even comes on but here goes just for curiosity sake...:o What happens if you take out the battery...plug in the AC cord without battery...then put battery in while AC already connected. I tried it on my running EVO and I did not have to do nothing...it went straight to boot. Just curious and I hope you can get some more insight on a fix.
[EVO 4G General] tudor83:
you are very useful

________

reparatii termopane
[EVO 4G General] deathsled:
I hope that's not what you really think of that screen...maybe it would help you if there was some text on it that said "please be patient while your phone is updating".....
[EVO 4G General] gpz1100:
Craig, reread my statement. In any event, I hope the OP is able to recover the phone without sprint's assistance.

Somewhere in one of the faq's on here, it needs to be state in big bold red letters to be very patient when flashing anything involving the green circle/arrow.... Otherwise it's a harsh lesson learned. A percent counter or some other animated indicator would be real useful on this screen too. Such is probably beyond the scope of a rom development, unless someone is able to rewrite the hboot, or whatever low level software is in control during this time.
[EVO 4G General] powered195:
whos phone is not working? lets try to figure this **** out!
[EVO 4G General] lowetax:
you have a replacement evo being shipped to you ?
[EVO 4G General] arcurtis:
Yes replacement hasn't shipped yet so I actually still have my phone but will take it in when it ships. They are backordered for about a week I guess. I still wonder if it isn't some weird hardware issue since nothing will get it to charge or light an LED.
[EVO 4G General] Pre-dawn raid:
So since he has a replacement coming, what kind of crazy **** can we try to get it up and running? I was great at the game of Operation as a kid.
[EVO 4G General] roscoenr:
a hammer might work
[EVO 4G General] arcurtis:
A hammer I think is the best idea. My roomate and I have tried pretty much everything except to take it apart which I have thought about just unscrewing the main screws to see what lies beneath but I'd probably jack it up worse. You have any ideas I'm game!
[EVO 4G General] roscoenr:
hell if it was "lost" you have some good replacement parts
[EVO 4G General] arcurtis:
Not a bad thought
[EVO 4G General] Dreddge:
Myn,

You have no reason to apologize. Your instructions were perfectly clear, and you have a great ROM. This is a simple case of flashing all willy nilly and not paying close enough attention to what they are doing. I updated with no issues, and I still consider myself a novice. Im just very careful before I flash radios. I do alot of reading.

Anyhow, dont waste ur precious time apologizing for something you arent responsible for.

Sent from the bowels of my mind....
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
i am interested in any great experiments you might want to try..

I want to live vicariusly through you! to scared to do anything to my baby evo.

but.. warning....

if they can tell you got inside the evo.. they may stamp it void of warranty.. and bill you $600 for the replacement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

step carefully!
[EVO 4G General] Pre-dawn raid:
Like one of the previous posters said, his Evo might be reported as "lost".
[EVO 4G General] arcurtis:
Na I'll turn it in like I'm supposed to.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
he has called it in... for warranty..

told them whatever...

they are already sending him a replacement..

he calls back.. oh.. sorry..

that phone that does not turn on...

yeah.. it is gone.. I aint got no idea where it went.

what?? you are asking why I took a totally broken phone out with me??? hhhhmmm ... give me a sec to come up with a great story.. tic toc.. tic toc..

you are going to bill me for $600 for a refurbished phone????

logon to a phone forum... post a " sprint sucks, they f...ed me out of warranty"

:eek: :rolleyes: :p
[EVO 4G General] lowetax:
have you tested the sd card that was in it ?

and made sure no file errors

(i posted that here yesterday)

take battery and sd card out

and plug into wall without them in for a couple of minutes

then battery back in for a couple of minutes

then sd card back in too

man i wish you could get that flashing green led like i got back

the glimmer of hope
[EVO 4G General] arcurtis:
Yeah tell me about it. Would feel good to solve the problem with some help, but just don't think its in the cards. I have not tested the card yet but have done other steps.
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
eheheheh, because the color green reminds everybody of death and destruction huh. rofl