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[Windows Phone 7 General] fixxxer2008:
i agree whole heartily. i think if wp7 bombs & windows 8 flops we will see bill come back full time. i was never a fan of steve.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
I thought the ocean was blue because the color of water was blue..?

As for WP7, what is their to love about it except the front screen...? There is not even one decent looking prof WP7 device out their, all them look so cheap and plastiky..
[Windows Phone 7 General] fixxxer2008:
yes we do care about it. most of us used winmo and if it weren't for the great devs on here and ppcgeeks that platform would of failed as well. i dunno about you but i enjoy making my phone act & look the way i want too. that's why i have steered clear of the iphone & wp7 to date, there too locked down. i barely call them smartphones. **** i used to be addicted to flashing and themeing my phones and still am with android. thats also why alot of devs went android and left winmo. even ppcgeeks that was mostly all winmo a year ago is now almost all android talk.

that's why it think android is soo popular, it's what winmo should of been long ago. im not here too bash or tell people to give up on wp7. ill be the first to buy one when and if micro$oft allow customization such as spb shell. ;)

but too exclude such basic features as screenshot or copy & paste is a totally unfinished product. im sorry those plain looking tiles are butt ugly as is. we need our devs that worked their asses off on old winmo to make some custom themes for the phones. i guarantee the platform would take off like a rocket. soo much talent gone to waste on the windows platform, now there all on android.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tone_:
Omnia 7 isn't plasticy.
[Windows Phone 7 General] fixxxer2008:
im not bashing the phone design or hardware, im bashing the os itself. i swear its like they didn't even put much thought into it. ive yet to walk into a cell phone retailer and see a working wp7 on display or even have a rep push one.
[Windows Phone 7 General] zukа:
in Australia, the WP7 handsets are prominent in all of the major carrier outlets.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JamesAllen:
ATT

The ATT store in Newton NJ. They had all three, all three were working and the reps just returned from WP7 training and were very knowledgeable and could demo the phones. The top selling phones in this office were the Torch, Focus and Surround, in that order.
[Windows Phone 7 General] canadariot2312:
Why Torch? I prefer the Bold over the Torch especially since the newest one has the same specs.

I don't see OfficeMax pushing the Galaxy Tab.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ForeverImASpartan:
I went to the T-mobile store and they weren't pushing WP7 either. They were talking about the Nexus S and the Galaxy Tab.

We will see how long this OS lasts...
[Windows Phone 7 General] fixxxer2008:
yeah i agree. wp7 hasn't exactly been groundbreaking. most of the forums are dead because there can be no development. at least there are some for the iphone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tone_:
If there can be no development why are there nearly 6000 apps in the marketplace?
[Windows Phone 7 General] zukа:
Also, I see WP7 hacking going the same way as iPhone's jailbreaking process. Which has had a four year headstart and took a looong time to get off the ground. The OS is barely a few months old.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Say what you will about the copy/paste and lack of hacking but I gotta say its nice not having to flash a new rom every day just to have a half-assed UI

My UI is great and I didnt have to do anything to make it that way.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Wjy not get a real andtoid phone. Wp7 users pay for the os. The hardware on these phones are last-gen.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Not to mention by the fact development gets that far with WP7 to where we can flash a lesser OS on it that phone will be dead and gone
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
The real Android phones are a bit more complex than a ported version of Android. And from my experience, the HD2 with current Android ROMs outperforms a real Android phone. The devs here at XDA who make these ROMs do a first-class job and they do work well.

Hell...when I had that T-Mobile MyTouch 4g for a few days, I couldn't even get it rooted. It was as locked down as any carrier phone. You don't suffer that with a ported version. It's ready to go and you can have a different phone all the time without having to buy different hardware. I'm currently using a DesireHD ROM on my HD2, which is purely excellent, and have been considering flashing the Nexus S Gingerbread ROM. Plus there are a lot of other choices. You won't get that with a real Android phone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mike21pr:
imo the hate comes from a combination of android users trying to pounce on newcomers to prove their dominance over up and coming contenders early on and disgruntled windows mobile users that feel that they got screwed over with this new os

s3nT Fr0m mY gInG3rCl0n3'd vIbR@nT
[Windows Phone 7 General] domineus:
that's pretty much it...
[Windows Phone 7 General] ForeverImASpartan:
The Truth.

You people dont admit fault, every discussion in the WP7 forums turns into an argument of other OSs vs. WP7.

Blame it on Android and iPhone users why dont you...when it was one of YOU who started the Android vs WP7 garbage.
[Windows Phone 7 General] zukа:
Who cares? Why does it bother you what WP7 users think of Android?

Seriously, who gives a ****? I'm really, really sick of it. I don't care what mobile phone OS you prefer, I don't give a rats about the opinion of somebody that isn't actually trying to contribute to this forum.

I don't care who started it, I don't care about the rationale. This is XDA, and it used to be a community helping each other. Just before you post in these forums, think about whether what you're about to say is actually contributing to a discussion or helping anybody. People who like WP7 aren't going to roll over and say "wow, you're right, Android is better!", so I honestly don't know what you're trying to achieve except carrying out some strange, nerdy vendetta.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
The HD2 does not outperform a decent Android phone, and the hardware is crippled in some respects (i.e. no 720p recording), and it has worse battery life than most decent Android handsets because the battery is laughably small given the screen size on that phone - and it's an LCD screen, too - and the first gen snapdragon.

I guess it depends on when your contract is up. If you're eyeing a phone a few months off then it can serve as a decent hold-over.

I don't mess with ROMs because they force you into a perpetual upgrade treadmill. After years of using Linux on one of my secondary PCs, I'm over that.

/shrugs/ I've never had a need to root my phone. I use it to get work done and can care less about circumventing carrier charges for tethering, debloating ROMs, etc. I guess if my phone launched all the bloatware on bootup, or they took up hundreds of MB of space I'd see the point, though.

I just want a functional phone with decent specs and battery life that gets the job done, that has decent support from the carrier/manufacturer. I have 5 computers to tinker with :P
[Windows Phone 7 General] mmelo76:
Useless talk.

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[Samsung Mesmerize] phidelt82:
I've been collecting a few wallpapers, so I thought that I would put them all together and post them for anyone that wants them. There are 26 in all, and they are all 960 x 800. I did not make any of these. I do not take any credit for them. I just happened to find them on the web, download them, and put them in a package together. There is a wide variety in the pack, but here is a few to check out.

WALLPAPER PACK: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ECLSJTCW

If you want to post others here too, it would be a good place for people to find them.
[Samsung Mesmerize] sageDieu:
These are great, thanks. Here's a link to my pack of almost 300 wallpapers that I've collected over the past month of having an android device.

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/jip9i4skvaxs2v8/androwallspack by sageDieu.zip?dl=1

I use Flikie Wallpapers HD to have them all rotate every 30 minutes so I never get bored.
[Samsung Mesmerize] droidroidz:
Downloaded both will check them out when I get home, thanks guys!
[Samsung Mesmerize] sageDieu:
You're welcome! I didn't make any of those, idk if there are rules about giving credit... its a compilation of multiple packs I've found and a bunch of different DeviantArt things, etc.

Sent from my Galaxy S.
[Samsung Mesmerize] Omnichron:
thank you :D
[Samsung Mesmerize] spilky1224:
This is great. Thank again. I use interfacelift, it has options right under every picture for android device resolutions, including ours(Mesmerize)

http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/downloads/date/any/
[Samsung Mesmerize] bdemartino:
I like this site;

http://www.wallpaperswide.com/

You can also select our resolution WVGA (480x800) but this one allows you to filter the entire list by this resolution. I'll post some of mine when I get a chance.
[Samsung Mesmerize] Omnibot:
Nice packs! I usually just use AppBrains Market app/website and apply them to my phone right from the site but I do like a bunch of these! Thanks!
[Samsung Mesmerize] bdemartino:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=11293802#post11293802

This post was featured on the portal, has a ton of them on dropbox.
[Samsung Mesmerize] spruced:
Oooh thanks! I'm always looking for new wallpapers.
[Defy Accessories] qipengart:
Since the Motorola Defy uses the same battery as the Droid X, you can order a 1750 mah battery here at http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/basi17mtdx.htm for way better life.
[Defy Accessories] reinsen:
anyone tried yet?
[Defy Accessories] chaihg:
Theoretically, then we could also use battery from Motorola Atrix which uses a massive 1900mah. No?
[Defy Accessories] cactus6220:
The Droid X battery is a BH5X

The Defy is a BF5X (at least the uk one I have is)

I'm not saying they wont fit the Defy, but it would be nice know from someone who has tried if they do,before stumping up the cash?

There is a BH6X Motorola extended battery

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTbb2f81_HI

This might fit also?

UPDATE

OK it looks like the Droid X battery has flat contacts,

and the Defy has the blades that fits into slots in the battery.

So even though its the same physical size and shape it

won't fit without a bit of serious hacking?

So clever of Motorola to make each of their products so individual and different. You cant help but feel a little special

in owning one. ;-)

BH5X

http://www.trait-tech.com/product/T-BH-5X/
[Defy Accessories] add.thebad:
that would be very nice as battery life is allready quite tidy on the defy, dont see why it shouldnt work tho might give it a try
[Defy Accessories] Nice.InSane:
Perhaps we can ask tenfar or another chinese from this forum who know if there exist good batteries in china...

MfG Nice.InSane
[Defy Accessories] Nice.InSane:
Found this batterie for the Defy: http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-fr-Moto...=280614675200&ps=63&clkid=6344532696864102447

100% positiv feedback!

MfG Nice.InSane
[Defy Accessories] Epsylon3:
2pcs Battery + Charger + usb cable for Motorola BF5X MB520 Bravo MB525 Defy (13$ inc)

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190486210352#ht_2155wt_1133
[Defy Accessories] MadStu:
I have this one, arrived in a few days, charger seems to work fine, batteries fit and work but build quality is lacking (pushing battery into charger causes the end of the battery to flex and come away from the inside).

As for time, I've only tried once since I received it the other day and it seems to last about half a day.

Good and cheap for backups, but no good as replacements.
[Defy Accessories] reinsen:
never heard of mugen... quality batteries?
[Defy Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
Yes. Very reliable and quality batteries. The do what they are suppose to. They say if something can be done or not, and that is rare. I've seen them say a Desire HD 1800 battery was in the works (like the ones you can find on Ebay), but after trial and error, they scrapped it because it didn't meet their standards. They could have just made it, and made money off it, but they took the high road. I would buy from them anytime.
[Defy Accessories] Step666:
Firstly, thanks for the link.

Secondly, has anyone ordered/tried one of these yet?

Whilst it's not a huge increase in capacity, an extra ~10% if it doesn't require a larger/distended battery cover wouldn't be too shoddy.

And I'm guessing that since the product page states 'Battery Door - Not Required', that means it uses the standard battery cover?
[Defy Accessories] chaihg:
Just wanted to point out that the original battery is now available on the Motorola EU store online http://www.motorolastore.eu/de/p_motorola_product.aspx?i=207650
[Defy Accessories] xdaid:
I bought a mugen battery pack for x1 (1800mA, the stock one was 1500), i've been really satisfied. Great product and they looks like a serious company, well, except for delivery time.. i had to wait 3 weeks or so. I'm going to get the mugen battery for my defy too.
[Defy Accessories] scranno:
i just bought the mugen extended battery hope it works well, will report back once it arrives & I've tested it
[Defy Accessories] kBrot:
Anybody tried it yet?
[Defy Accessories] scranno:
i haven't received the battery yet, it did say when I bought it that it wouldn't be sent till later in Feb, will report back here when I've tested
[Defy Accessories] nupi:
Is there any really big battery out there (its fine if there is another backplate involved)?
[Defy Accessories] Darmach:
I think not - but i hope there will be in the future.... I dont get all those manufacturers... I sincerely wouldn't min another 3 - 4 mm for additional 1500 mAh capacity, for a uptime like 4 - 5 days....

It would be awesome.
[Defy Accessories] beboo55:
Anyone tried the mugen battery for defy yet? please let us know your feedback. thanks
[Defy Accessories] mefxes:
Battery stats were wiped many times on the previous roms (2.3.X) and the battery status was showing wrong.

When I installed 4.01 it already started showing it correctly. I calibrated the battery anyway, the same way I did on previous roms (through batt cal), and it's still showing correctly.

I'm getting 1,2 to 1,5 the lifetime of the original battery. I really think 50% is the maximum I'll get from this chinese 3500mAh. That's good for me, I'll keep using it...
[Defy Accessories] prozai:
aw...my battery is dyieng and i foudn this thread...thx :)
[Defy Accessories] Genghis1:
Hi. I have this 3500mAh battery and it is great, but it is not showing status properly. On stock rom, it used to drain very fast, 10% by 10%.

Now, I installed Wajkiui ICS and it lasts really long, but battery status is still not ok. It drains quickly until 1%, and it is working all night now under the heavy usage, and still showing 1% :)

I tried battery calibration but got the same result.

Now I have wiped the battery status and I'm draining that one percent :)

After the phone goes off, I'll try the Battery Calibration tool once again (charge it from the empty state to 100% full). Maybe that way it will learn how big my battery really is :)

If you have any other solution, please propose!
[Defy Accessories] Mayguy:
what happened with you Genghis1?

i have same problem...let me know what happened after you deleted the stats
[Defy Accessories] Proda:
Can u give me a link to buy this huge 3500mah battery plz?

Any news on calibrating it properly?

Cheers.
[Defy Accessories] lefedor:
I've ordered +2battery and charger from ebay year ago and them works fine for me.

Haven't charged phone over the wire/cable since spring even once. Just switching batterys. I haven't bought phone to let it rest on wire uselessly ))).

Recently i've ordered +3battery and +charger. Not because i need more batterys ), 3 (stock +2 extra) batterys pretty warrantees u will be enabled all day long whatewer u do, but i've found that i'm not comfortable with charging 2 batterys one after another in external charger - u need wait one charges, switch, wait, so i've decided i need 2 chargers for two batterys and ordered anoter one. So i can recommend everyone uses defy relly hard to buy 2 charges and 2 extra batterys. It shouldn't cost more than 15$ but really helpful.
[Defy Accessories] greenmak:
bf5x and hf5x

hello folks!

Are the defy and defy+ batteries interchangeable. I bricked my defy and was thinking of using my friends defy+ battery to get it unbricked. Any potential harm in doing so?

Peace.

greenmak
[Defy Accessories] jh20:
surprisingly no one has posted any results for the 1800mah batteries! well, they're fakes alright. from my battery usage calculation they're likely 1100mah batteries, even physically thinner than the original.
[Defy Accessories] mandy D:
battery drop explained

tyr this on battery issuses:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1778492:D
[Defy Accessories] hackergnome:
Please suggest where I should buy a new LEGIT battery. Should be more than 1500mah. I don't wanna be scammed o.O

I don't want a Tapatalk sig!
[Defy Accessories] Da Avenger:
Where did you get this solar charger from ?? :confused:

How much time it takes to charge from least to 100% battery in like bright sunlight? :silly:
[Defy Accessories] ricky23ricardo:
any idea for high capacity battery for MB526..:angel:
[Defy Accessories] ricky23ricardo:
anyone use andida 2200mah battery?
[Defy Accessories] latadswapnil:
Bf6x / bh6x / hf5x

please tell me BH6X is compatible with Defy+(MB526) :confused:

as it is 1800MAH , any one used it ??

http://www.ebay.in/itm/100-Original...?pt=IN_Mobile_Accessories&hash=item2582db422b

which is best battery for replacing the HF5X ...currently i am using HF5X .... hardly lasts for half day on heavy use
[Defy Accessories] farsight73:
I just bought this battery myself as they aren't any option selling out there. This battery is quite up to the par compared with original 1500mah rating.. feel a bit long lasting though.. no problem in charging straight from the package..

Defy on XDA Premium
[Defy Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
I ordered one last week. Should be here soon. I will report my finding. :-)
[Defy Accessories] d210:
Manufacturers go for slim and underpowered because people probably care only about slim. On top of it smaller batteries are probably cheaper so it's win-win for the manufacturer. Until people stop buying stuff like Desire HD (1050mAh battery!) nothing will change.
[Defy Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
Desire HD comes with a 1230.
[Defy Accessories] mcmaus:
I found this, just do not know whether it is real or fake :confused:

http://cgi.ebay.com/2200mAh-Battery...Accessories&hash=item3cb710e2b0#ht_1658wt_905

Sorry for bad English :)
[Defy Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
Not sure on that one. I have a 1700 from Mugen, and that's the highest they can get without making a bigger battery. Mugen has a good reputation, and they say they can't do it, so I doubt a 15 dollar 2200 from the bay is real. IMO
[Defy Accessories] iamnik:
Hows the 1700 Mugen holding up? I might order one.
[Defy Accessories] moeloo:
I'm also very interested how de battery is holding bobbyphoenix
[Defy Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
Just came in. Says to charge for 12 hours, and full capacity will be seen in about 5 days. I post back my findings in a couple days.
[Defy Accessories] iamnik:
Alrighty then
[Defy Accessories] zenghaoxuan:
wow a nice web
[Defy Accessories] inteks:
here a bit more info about these from an other site (i bought one ;) )

http://www.obostore.com/2200mah-andida-battery-for-motorola-bf5x-p-787.html

9,99$ free shipping
[Defy Accessories] zenghaoxuan:
great idea
[Defy Accessories] AkkiandDefy:
Did someome buyed it?

Because I would buy one if it really work.
[Defy Accessories] moeloo:
I'm very curious
[Defy Accessories] oladola:
does it send to Europe ?
[Defy Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
Got it in my phone now. On third charge. Instructions say at least five charges to get full capacity, but I can tell it's going to be great. Already have 10 hours more than before.
[Defy Accessories] Luis2012:
The Droid X battery is a BH5X

The Defy is a BF5X .

Original BH5X

But i cant send the link now. if you are interested that. contact me.
[Defy Accessories] markarian:
Hi,

How does the Mugen behave? Is it really that much of a difference? The stock is 1500 and I get roughly 12 hours of uasge.

How was the stock one and how is the Mugen?

Thanks!
[Defy Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
Big difference. In a good way. Here is what my set-up is from another post:

"I'm using SetVesel, and I've been able to drop 5 points from each, and that's about it before it reboots itself. I only tested undervolting, but I mainly overclock to get as much speed as I can, and give it enough juice to run super fast. I'm current running 300@33, 700@52, 1300@70 Threshold at 75%. The highest the temp ever got was 112F, and that was after playing a game for about an hour. Usually it stays below 90F for normal use. I get around 17-20 hours out of it with screen on time at about 3 hours @ 50% brightness. I've been running these settings about a month, and have not had any issues."

With the 1700 in it I now get 26 to 30 hours. I'm very happy with it.
[Defy Accessories] skattegat:
I have ordered this item last week. I will let you know when it will have arrived here in Germany... ;)
[Defy Accessories] scranno:
mugen battery tested

Hi guys, I bought one of the mugen extended batteries for the defy.

It took a while to come (over a month) but they did say on the website when I ordered it that they would not be available for 3wks or so, that didn't bother me at all.

The best thing about the battery was the one page instructions they sent with it.

I followed their doco to the letter and now my defy runs for two days sometimes without a charge.

So I don't really know if its the battery that is working better or my charging methods.
[Defy Accessories] ABC_Universal:
Oversize 3000mAh battery with cover is available now http://item.tmall.com/item.htm?id=10268181723&prc=1

But water resistance is likely compromised with the custom battery cover
[Defy Accessories] drwario:
The 3000mah battery site is in Chinese or something like that

Sent from my MB525 cm7quarx
[Defy Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
Yes it is. I use Chrome and it can translate it to English. Either way I would stay away from that. IMO
[Defy Accessories] chhanga:
Hows the batt working out ?
[Defy Accessories] DAG0:
Hello everybody, I'm looking for a battery with italian charger, but unfortunatly there is nothing in italy.

I've read good things about mugen 1700 mAh battery, but is a bit expensive also considering shipping in italy.

So I found this on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.it/2in1-Batteria-Caricabatteria-per-Motorola-Defy-MB525-/270750195824?pt=Accessori_per_Cellulari&hash=item3f09f82070#ht_3534wt_982

The description is written in perfect italian, but the seller is from hk, if everything goes well I should wait about 3 weeks for it :(

What do you think about it? Anyone has tried something similar?

It's a 1800 mAh battery, not too bad...
[Defy Accessories] viper.:
Yes ,i've tried similar charger on my last phone xperia x1. It works pretty well,you can charge both battery and phone at the same time.

Dont expect much from that battery... it wont work long with 3g even if its 100% ,phone will just shutdown without any sign of "low battery" :(.

I am not really sure how this will work but one thing i know ,my last x1 charger(mentioned above) cant charge Defy through usb .

Seller -its cheaper ,shipping is free .
[Defy Accessories] mihovil13:
I use a little solar battery usb, it charges the phone when i'm out of the house.

so, my battery life time is about 50h
[Defy Accessories] darkchucky:
Hi folks,

Ordered this 2200 mAh battery from obostore.com

Surprisingly it did not even last as long as the stock one :-(
[Defy Accessories] naenee:
I have ordered a 1800 mAh battery. It will just be as a backup for when I do not have my charger with me, but I will report back in due time when I can accurately compare it to the stock battery.
[Defy Accessories] skattegat:
I've got my 2200 mAh battery from obostore today. Fully charged and beeing tested. Results will follow... ;)