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[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
Nope - I'm using two exchange accounts, both set to manual currently, and neither of them set to any notifications. I'm also using the dorimanx 4.7 kernel anyway.

It seems to be a well known problem across lots of Android devices - that is, having an exchange account on your phone will cause an almost permanent wakelock. Last night I put my phone into airplane mode to avoid it, 2mA drain ftw!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corrsea:
Yes, I don't sync anything either, I don't see any need to be notified every time I receive a spam email.

:-)

Re. Warren's kernel. I've had it running about 15 hours now. About 25% battery remaining. Fairly heavy use testing various bits and bobs, with 7 hours of sleep overnight. With everything on (wifi, GPS but no sync) getting 3-7mha drain.

Everything I have tested is working well. data, wifi, GPS, and camera. Have not tested bluetooth or USB tethering.

No fc's, freeze, reboots or bsod's.

My setup is.

Clk

Lag free governor 128min, not overclocked.

Guess I can recommend it as an alternative to tytung's, fikret's and dorimanx's kernels.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
Good to know, will give it a shot, once I'm back up & running, I'm in between 2 ROMs now, plus ICS coming on the TF101, plenty of Android going on right now :D

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corrsea:
I'll just add that I've now activated the wifi timeout app that I mentioned a few posts ago and the sleeping drain has dropped to 2-5ma.

It has the same effect with the fikret kernel but not r14. It dramatically reduces 2 partial Wakelocks gtalk_async_conn, and alarm manager. Anything I've tried before has had no effect on either of these.

I intend to save a nandroid backup of my current setup as my stable backup.

I will then try out this kernel on my other favourite ROM. Might give dorimanx 5.3 a shot first :-)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] KrewsialNL:
And again, after the struggle.with other roms and kernels...I come back to this, with Tytung s r14. The only ROM that just works out of the box.

I am done with flashing :P
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Macelangelo77:
What timeout do you use? I've tried the app, but my wifi wouldn't get up anymore after a day or so, so I uninstalled the app.

Sincerely,

Mac
[HD2 Android NAND Development] KrewsialNL:
Be careful with that DM 5.3 kernel. You might run into some market related issues in combination with non DM roms.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
And WiFi channels 13&14 are not working, in case that is important to you (it is to me).

4.7 is the last stable version, sometimes with a wakelock (GPS related), except from that very stable and extremly fast with good battery life (in my NexusHD2 config).

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
Yeah, after you mentioned this before I checked my wireless network using Wi-Fi Analyser and my router (which is set to auto) quite often picks channel 13, but it doesn't support 14. I'd set it to a permanent channel and try out dorimanx 5.0 but the other networks in my neighbourhood seem to be set to auto as well and I figure it's sod's law that I'd choose a channel that ends up getting overpopulated.

Also, I've got this GPS related wakelock as well, despite having GPS switched off. :confused:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corrsea:
Thanks,

I've had issues with every dorimanx kernel since 3.2 & 3.6. The thread seems quiet at the moment which either means that 5.3 is relatively stable or he is relying on beta testers in the background.

@ yank55, my home wifi is fixed on channel 5 so lack of 12 -14 should not be a major issue.

I'm not switching just yet as I want to give Warrens kernel a few more days just in case there are issues that appear once it has settled in.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
I confirm, Dorimanx is worling 'offline' with beta testers, but nothing to test yet. I'd see that as a positive evolution, slowing down development and taking a little time to refocus. The last day he released 3 or 4 versions, that was likely too much :(

My WiFi AP systematically chooses 13, since the others are populated already. Luckyly I use 5GHz WiFi for my PC, those channels are quite free at the moment ;)

How does Warren's perform in terns of speed ?

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] KrewsialNL:
His kernels are awesome on his roms, but when using others, it might glitch here or there. Not to put him into a bad place, because he is an awesome dev.

Just a heads up to you guys:)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corrsea:
Warrens is ok on terms of speed. Not as fast as dorimanx though.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] KrewsialNL:
What is the max clock speed?

Running Tytung r14 @ 1.90ghz now and it just works :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corrsea:
1.11ghz max with Warrens. Dorimanx and fikret both go up to about 1.5ghz. I trend to be conservative so have not really tested at those speeds.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
1.9 GHz ?! Wow ! :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corrsea:
ok

I've tested Warren's kernel for the best part of 2 days. I think I can declare it to be a bit like an old Volvo 'safe but boxy'. Everything I've tested works, its stable, battery life is ok, it can be overclocked a little, it does not freeze or reboot. Nothing is exceptional though - there is no significant advantage over other stable kernels.

So its back to the crazy world of dorimanx for me, I will try out 5.3 to see how it goes. Meanwhile I will keep fikret as my stable back up.

Oops there is one issue. The time's not working. Needs to be set manually.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corrsea:
Flashed dorimanx 5.3 about 2 hours ago.

First he's using a new installer with a touch interface. So impressive it almost made me want to flash the kernel again.

Like his previous kernels its fast and smooth.

So far no fc's or freezes.

GPS, market, wifi, data all working.

It remains to be seen how it performs over the next few days. At this point I'm quietly optimistic.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] theorogelio:
You know, I said the same thing. I have been running this ROM for about a two weeks now. I have noticed my battery is not lasting me as long as on a MIUI ROM. Maybe my HD2 needs a new battery or it's a ROM-related issue.

I think I will make a backup of my current setup, try out some other ROM, say Hyperdroid GBX, and see how's the battery life on this one.

The Phone app foreclosed on me three times in a row when trying to make a call. I was on the Favorites tab and selected the person I wanted to call. The screen went black and nothing happened. After about 20 - 25 seconds, the FC pop-up came up (you know, Force close or Report). I rebooted and tried to recreate the FC, but this time it didn't happen.

After this, I flashed the latest tytung's kernel, coded specifically for NexusHD2-Gingerbread V3.2a. The problem or "bug" hasn't happened again.

Which app do you recommend to monitor battery usage throughout a day'?

I should add that everything else I have tried or used on this ROM is working without a problem. The ROM is very snappy. I love it! I am running the paid version of ADW's launcher.

As an aside, I recall that this was the first NAND ROM I flashed on my HD2 after getting rid of WinMo completely. I was so excited about it! I had a birthday party to go to, but I took the phone charger with me to be able to fiddle with tytung's newly flashed ROM on my HD2! :0) Fun memory!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
Yeah, I switched back to this (first ROM I flashed as well :)) after using a bunch of Sense ROMs, and the battery life wasn't as good. So I flashed dorimanx's 4.7 kernel and that improved things, and I monitor my battery using Battery Monitor (Android market) and BetterBatteryStats (available on XDA).

The e-mail wakelock seems mostly to have gone away, whereas the GPS wakelock is still there and that means a ~60mA drain instead of around 6, which is really annoying. But when that goes away, the drain at standby can be as low as 2mA!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] KrewsialNL:
BetterBatteryStats is a good option, as already stated, and current widget to keep an eye on the mA in standby. I am a heavy user myself, so I always charge my phone at night ;) I get a good 24 hours out of my setup, including he overclock to 1.19 ghz.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] KrewsialNL:
Is there a way to update the stock music player to the latest one? I probably am doing something wrong :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] neelgangrade:
coming from hyperdroid !

i just want to know , if somebody cud help me out with this thing !

i am coming from hyperdroid and have 150 mb of partition size , and this rom requires 135 mb ! can i install this rom with out changing anything ! just by putting the rom in sd and flashing right away thru CWR ?

please help :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
Yeah, I've actually been wondering if it's possible to update some of the Google apps (e-mail mainly) to the ones that come with ICS, or if they're just not compatible. Also, On Sense ROMs, the Google Search app would update via the Market and give me a nice new looking search box for my homescreen, but the one in this ROM doesn't want to update like that. :(
[HD2 Android NAND Development] KrewsialNL:
I am trying to replace the music player app, but it didnt work.

Edit: I am a retard. Just installed google music via Aptoide. That works :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] KrewsialNL:
Yep, with 150 mb it should work fine too.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] neelgangrade:
does the market works ?

like if i wanna change the veding.apk to hacked one vending.apk ...will it work ?

i had done a lot of customization in hyperdroid ... does this roms supports too ? :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
Nice, where did you get the app from?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] KrewsialNL:
Market works, you can replace it with the hacked one if you would really need that.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] KrewsialNL:
Aptoide.com (alternative market)

Search for "Google Music".
[HD2 Android NAND Development] wert7544:
Data is not working

Hi all,

I just installed this ROM. Everything is perfect except the fact that data is not working ... neither 3G, neither EDGE ... nothing.

Anyone has any idea?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] KrewsialNL:
Did you check operator settings? Maybe wipe those and manually add yours.

I've never seen that happen before with this ROM to be honest.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] wert7544:
I just did that ... and it worked.

The phone was not getting the operator settings automatically, so I had to add the APN manually ... it is strange though!?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] KrewsialNL:
I've seen stranger things happen, but at least it worked for you ;)

Enjoy the rom!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corrsea:
Re the GPS wakelock. It does not appear to be present in dorimanx 5.3. Another way to eliminate it is to roll back to an earlier version of google maps.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
It hasn't been as systematic since 4.7 (at least), but I sometimes still have it in 4.7 (not yet since I'm on HyperDroid, which is awesome by the way, works flawlessly ! But it's too early to tell).

Still waiting for a beta from Dorimanx...

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corrsea:
You seem to be on New Zealand time yank. Glad to hear you got something sorted out. Must admit I'm quite impressed with 5.3 so far. Only limited testing as of yet but nothing 'strange' has happened plus it has an that unquantifiable quality of just feeling 'right'. Battery is quite good while asleep but perhaps a bit high while in use. Not sure about wifi channels above 12, but I might test it if I get a chance this evening.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corrsea:
Just another quick update. Re dorimanx 5.3

Battery use actually appears to be quite good, still 50% left after a day at work. Only down to 30% after a couple of hours of internet, downloading from market etc.

Tied out wifi channels 12 & 13, both working ok.

Boots a lot faster than previous kernels with very little lag.

Touch screen feels very responsive and everything is fast and smooth - transitions, scrolling etc. No data

drops yet on clk.

No freeze, FC, reboot, market or other issues.

Still to test camcorder, GPS navigation, USB.

Not tested Bluetooth as I rarely use it.

If, and its a big if, it continues to perform like this then its best kernel by far that I have tried with this ROM. The reason I qualify this is that with previous dorimanx kernels I have run into problems 2 or 3 days down the line.

Setup using system tuner pro:-

Governor SmartassV2 96 - 998mhz

VR IO scheduler, cache 6144

Undervolted by -25 mV across all frequencies.

No other tweaks.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
If you could let us know in a couple of days how it is that would be super helpful as then I'll update from 4.7 :)

Sent from my HTC HD2
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
Thanx for that info, I'm flashing 5.3 right now, had given up after testing 5.2.

Let's see how it behaves on Hyerdroid CM7...

Will report back if channel 13&14 issue is solved for me as well, but only once I'm back at home tonight.

--> Yep, I'm back living in CET timezone :cool:

Is undervolting making a big difference in terms of battery drain ? No stability glichtes ?

As for I/O, I'm on a more conservative "Deadline" (6144) since having occasional reboots, I'd rather have the data on the card asap. "Noop" is too intense, "Deadline" keeps the phone more interactive.

JP.

PS: Aroma installer is just so sexy !! :cool:

EDIT -------------------------------------

Booted 5.3, went past lockscreen, let it settle, started Gmail (had a notification) and boom, freeze (Gmail showing just a white screen) and after a minute untouched, reboot :( Had similar effects on 4.7 as well, but I think it might be a ROM issue...

Back to 3.2 for now, I need a working phone ;)

Will test if 5.3 fixes WiFi channels at home tonight, would be good to know that and especially confirm that to Dorimanx.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
4.7 has been totally stable for me here. The only real issue I still have is standby battery drain.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
On NexusHD2 4.7 is perfectly stable, I can confirm that having used 4.7 since day 1 on NexusHD2.

On Hyperdroid, however, Dorimanx v3.2 seems best for now, but it's only been 2 days so far.

As for your drain, have you tried to find out where it comes from ?

Battery Monitor Widget (Market) and BetterBatteryStats (available on xda) might help out.

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
Yeah, it's the "GpsLocationProvider" wakelock. BetterBatteryStats tells me that it occurred 85% of the time my phone was running on battery power (total of about 7 hours) so it's pretty annoying.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] theorogelio:
I wish I could get that much battery life! Maybe I need a new battery for my HD2.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
Have you been looking at how much drain you get when in standby, and what's causing it?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] theorogelio:
Not really. I have the Current Widget but not BetterBatteryStats. But by looking at the Battery use, I can see that the Display shows 45%, Cell Standby shows 38%, Phone Idle 10%, Android OS 2%, ADWLauncher EX 2% and Dolphin Browser HD 2%.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
Unfortunately I've found that the default Android battery stats page is no good for really trying to find out what's causing the issue. BetterBatteryStats works really well for that - even if I don't know how to solve the problem, it's at least told me exactly what's eating the battery.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] theorogelio:
I will give it a try. I downloaded Yank555's Reflasher. By flashing it in Recovery, it will install Dorimanx' kernel, right?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
The reflasher itself? No, as far as I'm aware, that will only reflash the initrd.gz from NexusHD2-Gingerbread. You'll need to install dorimanx's kernel first and then flash the zip for the reflasher. Basically just flashing 2 zips in CWM.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] theorogelio:
Got it! thank you much. I read dorimanx' 4.7 is stable. But I will hold off. I will buy BBS to try to determine what is draining my battery.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
No worries. Also, in case you don't want to buy it, BBS is available to download for free from XDA. Obviously buying it is supporting the developer though.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
Go to Dorimanx 3.2 and it's gone... That started happening somewher after 4.2 if I remember well.

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
Any disadvantage of "downgrading" to 3.2?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
That is absolutely correct, first flash the kernel of your choice, then flash the reflasher right afterwards, without rebooting ;)

If you guys are playing with other ROMs, here are the reflashers I've packed so far :

- NexusHD2 GB v3.2a

- PureCM7 OTA 20.02.12

- Hyperdroid v5.8.0

- Hyperdroid v5.9.0 (suppose it's the same as v5.8.0, but just to be on the safe side ;))

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] theorogelio:
Too late! LOL! I bought it already!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corrsea:
Not in my opinion.

I would count dorimanx 3.2, tytungs r14, fikret, and Warrens kernel as all stable with this ROM.

Until now my personal preference has been fikret, simply because it performs equally well on another ROM I use whereas dorimanx does not.

Different users will get different results. For example my experience and Yank55's has diverged since 3.2. This may simply be due to different setups or the fact I have a Tmous, while he has a euro hd2 or that I use clk while he uses magdlr.

What is really important is that you have a stable nandroid backup. (I define stable as being in daily use for at least a week without any issues.) I also keep a copy of this on my computer just to be on the safe side.

Between flashing kernels I usually wipe the cache and the dalvik cache; this may be an unnecessary precaution but it only takes a minute or two.

Believe me, no matter how cautious you are you will eventually run into issues you can only solve by using your backup. :-)

If you are prepared for the worst and want to beta test then flash every kernel as it comes out, if not then hold back a bit and read what others post... It really depends what you want, for example, for battery life I would suggest going right back to tytungs r11 or 12, for speed, performance and 'tweakability' use dorimanx and for something in between use fikret.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
Alright, thanks for the advice. I think I'll try dorimanx 3.2 now because the battery life with 4.7 would be great if not for the GPS wakelock.

Also, what do you guys think about Data2SD vs Apps2SD?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corrsea:
Re: undervolting. I've only ever gotten away with -25 across the board, anything more causes stability issues. There is a small but noticeable battery gain. I suspect this is mainly from the higher frequencies but I have not had time to research or experiment. I'm fully expecting a bsod at some stage. If/when it happens I will increase the lower frequencies again. Still very much an experiment on my part.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
I'm retesting Dorimanx's 5.3, corrsea's positive feedback leads me to give it another chance ;)

As to using sd-ext for apps, that's also a long and broadly discussed topic, with loads of different conclusions...

In essence :

Use an sd-card of class 4 or 6 speed, don't use a class 10, they are only fast in sequential operations, and that is what you do when storing your apps on the card, class 4 & 6 are better random access performers, so they are better suited for this usage.

I've been using Data2SD on this Rom, worked fine, some had performance drops, I had none noticable at least.

Switching to Hyperdroid I tested Amarullz App2SDX, gives similar benefits as Data2SD (correct size displayed in Storage Settings), but leaves few things on (faster) NAND, so should perform better.

Drawback, low mic bug may appear, but fixing permissions in CWM solves this, so no big deal ;)

I'm equally happy with both...

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
Do you know if Dorimanx changed default voltage in 5.3 as opposed to 3.2 ?

I'll wait to have validated 5.3's stability on Hyperdroid before tweaking voltage, turning one screw at a time ; )

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corrsea:
Unfortunately I've never written the settings down.

I've made some changes though.

1. Have switched governor to lagfree. This has always been my favourite. I'm happy with overall battery life so am prepared to take a small hit in return for better overall performance.

2. Increased the voltage back to default and hinge from 96 and 128 mhz minimum. I thought I was about to have a freeze using the xda app - everything slowed down for a few seconds but recovered. The last time that happened to me I had a bsod shortly afterwards.

Other than that no issues...... yet :-)

Edit

The increase to 128mhz seems to have cured the problem with the XDA app, and to be fair it is the default setting. neither this increase not the switch to the lag free governor seems to have had any effect on battery life.

I have also tested the GPS. About 30 minutes each with sygic and google navigation. Both working perfectly + gaining charge while navigating.

I will keep testing until Monday at which point if all is good this will become my latest nandroid backup for this ROM. I then intend to test the kernel on tweakos pure cm7 as he has just released an update for his ROM
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
I'm back on 3.2 on my ROM, 5.3 froze after 1 hour :(

I even have gone to 245MHz, since that better suites my car's BT handsfree...

Will test lagfree, battery life is good enough to invest some for performance ;)

Saw the new version of PureCM7, will skip testing it for now, have had enough 'fun' lately :D And I've got ICS ROMs to test on my TF101 ;-)

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
Is there any way to get a "bounce" overscroll effect on this ROM? My dad has a SGSII which has a great overscroll effect. I know CM7 offers the option to add in one, but it's a pretty poor implementation in my opinion. I'm just not really a fan of the stock "glow" effect that much.

Regarding *2SD, I'm using Data2SD at the moment and it seems to be working pretty well. Also, 96MHz min. gave me a slow down for a while as well - I thought it might freeze up or stay that slow that I'd have to reboot, but it recovered eventually. Unfortunately though, that never happened using 245MHz so I went back to that. I realised I hadn't bothered to try 128MHz though, so I'm using that now.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] KrewsialNL:
Are you using the stock Android launcher? You could try other launchers like launcherpro, adw(ex) or something similar that offer various overscroll options.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
I agree with corrsea, not real drawback to go to 3.2, I'm using it at the moment on another ROM. Maybe it feels a little less fast, but no big deal really.

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
Sorry, I meant overscroll in the menus and browser etc. rather than homescreens. As a side note, I actually have bought ADW Launcher EX and LauncherPro Plus but I've found myself sticking with the stock launcher this time round.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corrsea:
You could try jrummeys ROM toolbox. It has the ability to change framework animations. For example I use flip and fly rather than stock. I notice that there is a bounce one included.

When you instal it a lot of processes will force close - this is normal. After a reboot your current theme will have disappeared eg. Wallpaper etc. so you will have to set it up again. You will also be signed out of google. Just open market and sign back in again.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ellisbodds:
I bought ROM ToolBox Pro but when restarting after installing the animations, I get stuck at the HTC splash screen before the boot animation. Know why this might be? Do I need to wipe the cache/dalvik-cache or something?