yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
He must be talking about getting perm root on the downgraded ROM, e.g. 1.34, because right now there is no permanent root on 1.72, just a temp root that is sufficient to let you downgrade.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] YOSEFE:
Thank you very much.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Ninj:
I think it's now possible to get permroot in 1.72, but you need to have already S-OFF for that:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=886023&page=26
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
That's just referring to the temp root that you can get from psneuter in the original posting here. With this temp root you can then downgrade. There is no perm root yet for 1.72 because the NAND write protection in that ROM hasn't been broken yet.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] keinengel:
Worked like a charm, but after doing it I realized I didn't need to downgrade and spend half a day restoring my stuff. I just wanted to pm enable the packages I had disabled before, since I need to take it in for warranty. Now I feel stupid. Oh, well...

Anyway, psneuter is a great way to get temproot and it can be used to enable/disable crappy preinstalled apps (I'm looking at you, Amazon MP3!)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MaluNoPeleke:
How can you use temproot to uninstall unwanted applications like Amazon MP3 without wiping/flashing everything?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] keinengel:
After running psneuter you get a root shell. Use

pm list packages

to get a list of existing packages and then

pm disable com.package.name

to disable an unwanted app and make it disappear. Mind you, package names are case sensitive. If you don't know what a package's name is, look up the app on http://www.androlib.com
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] warp2:
what du u mean with this? do i have to install the recovery image from the sd-card the zip-file (PC10IMG.zip)? is it correct, until i finished the recivery-install the downgrade process will not be finished? wot would happens, when i do not recover?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Step 20 is optional. Up to this point you've flashed a stock ROM with stock recovery, and you can stay there if you want, no need to flash anything more, and you have successfully downgraded.

If you want, you can install ROM Manager and flash a custom recovery (Clockwork). This will let you do a full ROM backup, which is very useful because it's so easy to restore from that in the future. But it's optional.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] geert01:
hehehe bye bye vodafone 1.72, helooooo htc 1.34 :)

edit: and rooted / S-off etcetera :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] g4rb4g3:
Did you have the VODAP001 CID before downgrading? If so how could you downgrade?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Aha, a possible guinea pig !

There's a new 0.2 version of the "misc_version" utility, which changes the CID. Someone on Vodafone at 1.72 could perhaps try this out and see if changing CID to an HTC one lets them then use the 1.34 HTC ROM.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] beta199:
Downgrading and rooting works like a charm!

Have a stock HTC Desire Z, applied the OTA 1.72 update. Was able to downgrade and root without problems. New to Android and Linux.

Excellent job! :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] geert01:
I did have the vodaphone vodap01 version, however I downgraded using misc_version and a goldcard created in the link you provided Stevie.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] g4rb4g3:
Thanks for the information, updated first post.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G4il1:
Do anyone know if there is a special Nordic 1.34 RUU and if so where I can find it?

I know that there are differences between the keyboard files and what settings I can choose from compared to a standard "english" Dezire Z.

And it would be unfortunate if I use the standard WWE RUU to downgrade and then can't use the Swedisch charachters without alot of extra tinkering.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] keinengel:
Do you know the main version of the nordic stock ROM? It's supposed to be 1.34.xxx.y (xxx being the region and y probably the revision (?)).

If you're S-OFF, you could flash the system.img and userdata.img from the WWE ROM and see if it has what you need. The phone automatically adjusts its language selection, APNs, bookmarks, widgets and probably some other stuff depending on the country the SIM card is from.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G4il1:
Unfortunately I am one of the ones that had just rooted my phone and not done the S-OFF thing and without thinking updated to 1.72 so I have no idea what the exact version number on the 1.34 ROM was.

The 1.72 has the build number: 1.72.405.2 CL296256 release-keys

Kernel is 2.6.21-g540976a htc-kenel@and18-2 #1

and baseband version is 12.28e.60.14fU_26.04.02.17_M2

If that helps in checking if that is a different one then the WWE 1.72 RUU. If it is then probably the 1.34 was different too.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
That sounds lke the version number of the standard English ROM, rather than a special Nordic version.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G4il1:
If that is true I'm a happy camper :-)

I am a bit puzzled though since I helped a guy on swedroid.se to fix how to change the keyboard layout on his English DZ. We have the same operator and obviously both a Swedish sim card. We both run the DZ with English (Swedish) language

But on my Nordic DZ I had 5 language choices on the settings for the Hardware keyboard. He did not. I also had a vision-keypad-nor.kl instead of a vision-keypad-wwe.kl

That is why I am wondering if I maybe had a Nordic ROM instead of a WWE ROM
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Maybe you did have a Nordic ROM ? I don't totally understand the version numbers, other than it *seems* the last two sets of digits are some sort of region/carrier coding.

There's a thread on this forum somewhere with different keyboard layout files to do mapping of the hardware keyboard, I don't know if that will help you ?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] LooieENG:
This worked perfectly!

Thank you so much. I feel much better now I have a recovery ROM on my phone
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] metmat:
I don't what I'm doing wrong but I can't see my INFOCID number typing in cmd this code above. My phone is plugged with debbuging mode and it seems alright because when i enter adb devices it returns my phone s/n.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
What do you get exactly when you run "fastboot oem boot" when the phone is in hboot ?

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] metmat:
when I type: adb reboot bootloader the phone reboot with the bootloader (exactly like vol down + power) and then i type: fastboot... cmd is saying: no command fastboot or something like that...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
ok, well that's an issue to do with your PC setup. If adb is setup on your PC then you are nearly there. "fastboot" is in the "tools" folder as opposed to "platform-tools", on Windows at least. You either need to make sure that's in your path, or "cd" to the "tools" directory on your PC and run the fastboot command from there.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] metmat:
Thanks - that was the reason. Could you tell me how to not doing this every time runnig cmd? (I mean typing the cd c:.....) I read and do exactly like it is here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=865685 in step 4 but it didn't work. (Win7x64)

Also no i have another problem running "fastboot oem boot" in right dir because prompt error "AdbWinApi.dll missing". I downloaded full exe version of Android SDK also installing Java etc. What is wrong?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] metmat:
Maybe anybody know how in another way I can check my CID number?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
I don't know why you are getting that error that you posted. But why do you want to check your CID exactly ? Is it to downgrade from 1.72 and checking which stock ROM you can use ? You could always just try the ROM and see if it will flash. You can always make a gold card if you want to bypass CID checks. Or use gfree to get SuperCID, but if you are semi-stuck on 1.72 you won't be able to do that yet.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] metmat:
Ok now I know why there was a problem: the file "AdbWinApi.dll" must be in the tools directory of android sdk. I copy it from EZ-MiniADB.zip from the first post and paste in tools and everything is now ok.

steviewevie:

I want to downgrade my DZ from 1.72 to 1.34 and get S-OFF and SuperCID using the metod described in 1 post also want to change to VirtuousROM because I red many complains about it and I like Sense. But after I decided to take a closer look (start to study this forum) to my HTC DZ android system I've done OTA update. I think now I'm ready for post 1 step 1. Thanks for your interest you help me a lot!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bladerex13:
Worked just fine many 10x

but instead of adb push rage /data/local/tmp - I wrote adb push rage /data/local/tmp/
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rtorbs:
Bit of a noob question but where exactly do i need to extract the attached files to in order to be visible?

@ present they're on my desktop in a 'DZ downgrade' folder for ease of visibility....but when trying to push the psneuter file i get....

cannot stat 'psneuter' : No such file or directory...

I have tried re running the command from within the 'DZ downgrade' folder from the command promt and still get the same....do they need to be in my SDK directory or similar?

begining to wonder if i should be trying this if i cant get this bit right lol.....

ADB is definately working as getting device ID back and have checked CID version and is HTC_001

cheers

Edit - Scratch that...windows 7 was hiding my folder extensions so was trying to push a .txt....renamed and all is well
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] STG777:
Finally

Thank you so much i've finally got root! :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shyguy22:
How to go back to stock when used this Guide?

Hello to all of you!

Sorry for my bad English, it isnt my native Language ^^

I used this Guide, installed ClockworkMod after that, and flashed Virtuous 0.9.0. Everything worked fine, but now i need to go back to Stock because of Warranty Issues..

I have no part7- and clockworkmod-backup because my SD-Card freaked out..

What are the steps i have to pass to get an absolutly stock phone?

After reading a little bit, i think of something like this:

1. Remove superuser.apk and su from my Part7(Radio)? But how?

2. Use adb gfree to restore my ciid and s-on.

3. Flash with an 1.72 ruu to get all other Partitions original.

Can someone give me an advice on this? If I posted in the wrong thread then please excuse me..

Thx in advance..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Don't do it in that order. Assuming you have full radio S-OFF via gfree, I would flash the 1.34 stock ROM over what you have, then get temp root via rage and use gfree to set you back to S-ON and restore your CID. Then you should be completely stock.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rousseauxy:
Worked like a charm :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shyguy22:
Thank you very much!

I will try it this Weekend when I get back Home from work..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] iamthechickengod:
How do I know the INFOCID of my phone? I tried doing adb reboot bootloader from my PC but that just booted my phone to the recovery on the phone.

I am not exactly sure how to do fastboot oem boot since this command does not exist.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
If you setup adb on your PC, then that will setup fastboot too. See the guide on adb in this forum.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nubnutz:
Hey Guys,

first thanks for the guide but i have one probleme:

when i come to the step to load the rom through the bootloader it searchs for the rom and it dosn't find anything (something like "wrong or no image")?! The Rom ist on the sd card and its called PC10IMG.zip somebody any ideas ?

sry for my bad english :/
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] iamthechickengod:
Did you copy the ROM in root?

Sent from my Desire Z with VillainROM 1.0.0
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] iamthechickengod:
I see. I only have the miniadb version. I was under the impression that you need to do both commands. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Spaghetti-XRY:
Hi guys, first message, so before starting thanks a lot for alls howto and the sharing of ur knowledge.

It's all day long that i'm trying to unlock without sucess my DHD branded vodafone 1.75.

I've followed the guide to install goldcar and i think everything is ok.

Now i'm doing a step by step of this thread to downgrad but i can just arrive to copy 1.34.405.5_PC10IMG.zip to SD-Card and rename it to PC10IMG.zip.

I checked md5sum and i've done a slowly format fat32 so i think it's not this the problem.

When i enter in bootloader mode i can't find/search my file PC10IMG.zip (the only file in sd) i can move just to fastboot and bootloader without anything that happens.

Just to clarify a thing that isn't specified in the guide, when i exit from adb shell with the #, before reboot and enter the bootloader, i can disconnect the usb cable and do this operatione without it or it should be always connected?

So now how can i see to view my zip file and run it? My Hboot version is 0.85.0018 and radio-26.04.02.17_m2, if you need other informations i'll provide them.

Thanks

EDIT: i was able to see also this:

SD Chech

Loading.....PD98DIAG.zip

No Image

Loading.....PD98DIAG.nbh

No Image or wrong image!

Loading.....PD98IMG.zip

Everything in green and nothing to start
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zbrah:
How do I check the INFOCID of my phone?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] zbrah:
also will this guide work for htc g2 thanks in advance
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nubnutz:
Yes i did but i still got the message: no or wrong image :(
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] g4rb4g3:
Desire HD != Desire Z

Think about it...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Spaghetti-XRY:
Yeah, I've extracted the file rom.zip from my temp folder and renamed to PD98IMG.ZIP from those one:

RUU_Ace_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.32.707.1_Radio_12.28a.60.140e_26.03.02.08_M_release_153610_signed.exe

RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.15_M3_release_155032_signed.zip

It's correct to change misc_Version to 1.31.707.1 and 1.31.405.3 respectly for every file ? Can be a problem of SD Card because it is one of 16gb ? And also I've to boot with usb cable puggled or unplugged ?

Thanks

EDIT: oK, changed my SD card, everything was fine, now i got radio s-off, unlock and cid 1111111. I thought i was not so n00b :D Many thankssss
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Dude, even though the methods are very similar, this is the Vision forum, not the Ace one, so it's just going to confuse things discussing this here.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
If you are running a stock G2 ROM then you don't need this thread, it's specifically for the stock Desire X 1.72 ROM.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nubnutz:
i got it now, the sd card was in FAT format not in FAT32 -.- but thanks for the help :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] DrBarrell:
Apologies for being a massive noob, but I seem to be getting the error:

# /data/local/tmp/misc_version -s 1.33.405.5

/data/local/tmp/misc_version -s 1.33.405.5

--set_version set. VERSION will be changed to:1.33.405.5

Patching and backing up partition 17...

Error opening backup file.

Any idea of what could be causing this? I saw a chap near the start of the thread had the same problem, and he solved it by demounting his phone. How do I find out if my phone is mounted? I have selected HTC Sync on the USB connection type.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Do you have an SD card in the phone ?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] DrBarrell:
Apologies for the stupidity, I am brand new to htc, after putting an sd card in the phone it worked fine, thanks for the swift response :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
That's ok, glad you got it working ! :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] navkaranchadha:
Im extremely new at this, just bought my DZ and it has Software no. as 1.34.720.6

So is it considered the new .72 rom.

thnx in advance.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] spooke:
No, the .72 rom would say

1.72.405.2 (Atleast that is what mine is, gonna attempt to downgrade now :p)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] spooke:
I now have another problem,

Im trying to do adb push psneuter /data/local/tmp, however when i enter this command it says it cannot start 'psneuter' no such file or directory, I am in the directory that the file is in too, but it doesnt work??

Edit- realised it was named psneuter.txt

I now have another problem, I went to update back to PC10IMG.zip, I did everything up to that stage and it said that it couldnt find PC10IMG or something, so i had to pull the battery, im back into the stock rom, do I have to start the guide again?? how can i get it to work this time? lol

Edit 2- Nevermind got it working myself, sorry for the posting lol

Just gotta root the 1.34 rom now :), thanks for this great guide,

Could u add that the SD Card needs to be FAT32?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kenshinz:
Good job!

Thanks a lot
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kourampies:
Nice guide. Worked super smoothly. Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] JassyNL:
I did this method as total newbie on this type of work and it works like a flaw. Really perfect an fast! Needed only 20 minutes, including flashing and install of Clockworkmod. Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KarlssoN1337:
Nice tutorial! Just one thing that doesn't work for me!

In step 6 I get this:

$ /data/local/tmp/misc_version -s 1.33.405.5
/data/local/tmp/misc_version -s 1.33.405.5
--set_version set. VERSION will be changed to: 1.33.405.5
Patching and backing up partition 17...
Error opening input file.

I have followed every step...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] guhl99:
You must have missed something because your prompt shows $ which means that you are not root. Please follow the psneuter procedure again to temp-root and make sure that the prompt is # (which means that you are root)

have fun - guhl
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KarlssoN1337:
Well, the temp root is that included here before step 6?

I mean I all do is pushing the files to my phone!

And this command doesn't work:

C:\sdk\platform-tools>adb shell /data/local/tmp/psneuter
/data/local/tmp/psneuter: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")

If I'm wrong, I am sorry because I am new to hacking on Android, However I did a lot of hacking on Windows Mobile :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] guhl99:
Hi,

This is your problem. This command is important to give you temp-root but fails. I think that the psneuter file that you are using is corrupt or something. Maybe you try the one from the zip file that you can get from here: http://www.thinkthinkdo.com/trac/project1/raw-attachment/wiki/psneuter/psneuter.zip

have fun - Guhl
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KarlssoN1337:
Thanks man! It worked great :) The phone is now downgraded and rooted!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] thoriig:
doesnt work for me :-(

hi guys,

for me it does not work. fromt step 1 to the step "fast boot loader" all works perfectly. no error messages at all.

bootloader recognize the img file, scans it, but i dont get a promt to choose yes/no. it just ends.

any idea?

... INFOsetup_tag addr=0xA0000100 cmdline add=0x8D086CF8
INFOTAG:Ramdisk OK
INFOTAG:smi ok, size = 0
INFOTAG:hwid 0x0
INFOTAG:skuid 0x25202
INFOTAG:hero panel = 0xF
INFOTAG:engineerid = 0x4
INFOMCP dual-die
INFOMCP dual-die
INFOTAG:mono-die = 0x0
INFODevice CID is not super CID
INFOCID is HTC__102
INFOsetting->cid::HTC__102
INFOserial number: HT0BBRT00650
INFOcommandline from head: no_console_suspend=1
INFOcommand line length =466
INFOactive commandline: board_vision.disable_uart2=0 board_visio
INFOn.usb_h2w_sw=0 board_vision.disable_sdcard=0 diag.enabled=0
INFOboard_vision.debug_uart=0 smisize=0 userdata_sel=0 androidbo
INFOot.emmc=true androidboot.baseband=26.04.02.17_M2 androidboo
INFOt.cid=HTC__102 androidboot.batt_poweron=good_battery android
INFOboot.carrier=HTC-GER androidboot.mid=PC1011000 androidboot.k
INFOeycaps=qwerty androidboot.mode=normal androidboot.serialno=H
INFOT0BBRT00450 androidboot.bootloader=0.85.0008 no_console_susp
INFOend=1
INFOaARM_Partion[0].name=misc
INFOaARM_Partion[1].name=recovery
INFOaARM_Partion[2].name=boot
INFOaARM_Partion[3].name=system
INFOaARM_Partion[4].name=cache
INFOaARM_Partion[5].name=userdata
INFOaARM_Partion[6].name=devlog
INFOaARM_Partion[7].name=pdata
INFOpartition number=8
INFOValid partition num=8
INFOjump_to_kernel: machine_id(2245), tags_addr(0x4000100), kern
INFOel_addr(0x4008000)
INFO-------------------hboot boot time:551748 msec
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ericino:
Error opening backup file.

-- You can disregard what's written below, it works now (no idea why! LOL) --

Hi everone,

I managed fine until step 6.

There I get this error message:

c:\Program Files\Android\android-sdk-windows\platform-tools>adb shell

# /data/local/tmp/misc_version -s 1.33.405.5

/data/local/tmp/misc_version -s 1.33.405.5

--set_version set. VERSION will be changed to: 1.33.405.5

Patching and backing up partition 17...

Error opening backup file.

#

Apparently I did get root, but i'm unable to set the version to an older one (1.33 instead of 1.34 so it will upgrade to that from SD).

When I enter the bootloader, it does recognize the file on my SD, but says it's an older version. Makes sense, since the set_version never worked.

I've tried with my phone connected as a disk drive, or as only-charging.

Using fastboot I got HTC__E11 as my CID.

I see people had this problem before and solved it, but I can't seem to get it to work...

I hope someone can figure out what I'm doing wrong. Thanks! :)

P.S.: I see my fastboot says: INFOValid partition num=8

When we're trying to write something to partition 17... Could this have anything to do with it? (Android noob logic)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sajdaman:
stuck

hi guys, ive recently bought desire z off ebay. it is unlocked and was originally vodafone as u can tell on splashscreen. the software is 1.72.161.1

ive tried all the downgrading. ive done all the adb tutorial and made gold card. i followed all procedures for 2 days now and still no closer on down grading..

am i right in saying that i cant downgrdae as ive got this crap rom installed???

is it possible to downgrade??

when i followed the thread i got the stage where the pc10 image is loading on fastboot on phone but it says wrong cid and then i have to reboot

pls can some1 helpp me....
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MaluNoPeleke:
Does this procedure also work if I have 1.82.xxx installed on my HTC Desire Z?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] templis:
hey there.

the file misc_version_01.zip at thinkthinkdo.com doesn't exists anymore... did anyone have a mirror or something else?

Sorry for don't posting the Link from the first post of this threat but i'm prohibited to use links...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Lord Mort:
Big thanks

Thnx g4rb4g3 :)

You're original guide under post #1 worked like a charm :)

Great work!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] g4rb4g3:
It took my about 2 minutes to find another source for that file, upload it to multiupload and change the link in the first post.

How long did it take you to post in 2 different forums?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] guhl99:
The server www.thinkthinkdo.com is online again.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

have fun Guhl