yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Miami_Son:
What do you expect to get from playing such large videos on the Cappy? I transcode mine to 720X480 in .mkv and they are simply stunning with zero playback issues. The Cappy supports the low end HD resolution of 1280X720, not the Blu-Ray rez of 1920X1080. And it supports that rez in shooting video so that it can be played back on a larger screen. There's no benefit to playing back videos that size on the device. Resize them, you won't notice any difference in picture quality and you'll save a ton of storage space.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxjivi05:
I have 315 bluray movies half are 1080p other is 720p so half of my media is watchable on my cappy and my tab. I use Tversity to stream to my ps3 and everything but if there was away to make it only transcode 720p to mobile devices or have a player that will resize it for us that would be awesome.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shammyh:
May be more of a codec problem than anything else.

While I never put anything bigger than 720p on my phone (since 1080p has no appreciable visual increase in quality on the phone screen, but a MUCH larger file size), I definitely have played 1080p on my phone before. Hence why I think it may simply be that 1080p MKV w/ certain codecs might not work. Remember that media files *legally* downloaded from the internet will often have slight variations in the parameters used when converting to MKV w/ x264/VC1/etc codec. Hence just because 2 files are "720p x264" in a Matroska container doesn't mean they are actually identically encoded. And the Galaxy S can sometimes be a bit picky about what formats it "automagically" supports and which it doesn't.

And by the way, as you clearly noticed, the "Video Player" app in Android is the only one to use the GPU to accelerate video playback. Other apps might work, but they will run the CPU way harder, and give you worse battery life. Monitoring the "time_in_state" to see what the CPU is running at, I can play 720p x264/MKV files with the CPU at only 400 MHz. Obviously, sometimes the default player won't play what you want, but it's much better to use it if at all possible.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Miami_Son:
This is the main reason I stick with the built-in player. I was on a flight from Ft. Lauderdale to St. Louis to L.A. on Tuesday and I watched 3 movies of close to six hours total length. Landed in L.A. with 31% battery still remaining.;)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cerjam:
my reasons for wanting to play 1080p is irrelevant to the scenario, i'd just like to see it done.

i considered a codec issue shammy, but i extracted a 60second sample from my crank copy and left it in 1920x1080mkv and tried it. no dice. i handbraked it to 1920x1080mp4 no dice. i once again handbraked it to 1280x720mp4. worked fantastical without any change in any settings except res. hence why i think its a limitation on res rather than codec/bitrate.

i am just IRKED all around at this. time to hit the irc and start screaming at people until somebody gives me an answer huh lmfao
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Miami_Son:
Square peg, round hole. Hope you find a big enough hammer.:rolleyes:
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Clienterror:
Yea man I feel ya, why should you convert your movie to a realistic resolution for a 4" screen when you can ***** at other people to make it work. Doing anything yourself is for chumps.

Sent from my SGH-I897
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxjivi05:
Its nice to be able to play 1080p why convert all your media when your ps3 and Xbox can play it at that size. Don't wish to lose quality on my other devices
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Miami_Son:
How do you lose quality by resizing for the device you'll be playing on? All those extra pixels of HD resolution on a 800X420 screen do not yield better quality, they just require more CPU/GPU to process and more storage space. Nothing is gained by playing HD-sized videos on the Cappy. Absolutely nothing.

I own a small HD video production company in L.A., but don't take my word for it.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxjivi05:
I was talking about playing the same media file from my Ps3 on my tv. I'd rather not convert my 1080p files to 720 just for my hand held I'd rather have a better way to do all of it using the files I currently have. Tversity works good but not perfect for over 3G but when I had my iPhone it would play pretty good using airvideo over 3G but there has to be something to make it all work
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mac11700:
It would be nice to be able to do this I suppose..but if you don't mind...Why ?

If you play it on any other thing but your phone..you will not really benefit from having it this way..and also..you won't really have enough storage to hold it to be able to watch a full featured film.

Until Samsung gets off their asses and fixes the issue with making the usb-hdmi cable you will never get the output capable of seeing any difference than what you can easily do right now at 720p...If you want to ***** about something...that is what I would ***** about..They had those cables available for 1 month..and not many was ever shipped out to the stores when they introduced the phone...I've e-mailed them every week since October and the only reply is they are working on it...so...I'm not holding my breath on seeing it anytime soon since they are working on the next line of phones already..

Mac
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cerjam:
i'll probably get xbanned by the-equinoxe for this post, but it'll be worth it.

Clienterror:

I was doing my best to not "*****" at you "other people". If I wanted to ***** i'd be obviously *****ing, not laughing about it. How about I send you my 12TB of video and you can convert it all into 480p, would that suffice for you? since you have such an issue with what I do with my device and provide absolutely no helpful solution, you do it! I sure hope you have couple dual 12core opterons sitting around, because it's gonna take you awhile. currently, encoding crank.mkv time remaining: 1h5m. now realistically i'd never convert my entire collection, just whatever video I want to watch at the time. but guess what? When i'm leaving or doing something I do not have an hour to wait. It's almost faster to download a 480p copy, you realize that right. converting while dealing with 1080p is not fast, nowhere near it. I find it unlikely you have any experience in the matter, i'm sure i've put more time and effort into this than your useless 30 second out of line response, so "chump" take the attitude and leave my thread please.

Miami_Son:

Time is gained. something new and fun is gained, every dev and intelligent person i've talked to(i'm a regular in the irc, im sure .. i've ran into a few) has tried it. Just because your personal opinion you see no reason or purpose to it, does not mean others see it that way. and not to be an ass here, but I find it surprising anybody who owns a company relating to high definition video would refer to resolution as rez.

Mac11700:

Why? Because I can. Everyone should want to do. You all see me trying to play 1080 on my phone as insane, and to me it's insane for you to NOT want to watch it on your device. I wont have enough space? i've got 32gb in my galaxys, i can fit three 1080ps. I am not stupid, and you all should not assume I am.

it's very irky that you all jump on a question without any real input on the scenario, except for the basic obvious simplest answer which really isnt helpful to the situation rather than putting in some thought and trying to solve the issue.

now: has ANYONE else made any progress with it. any input regarding 1080p on the galaxys could help solve this issue. please and thank you.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cerjam:
alright ive been doing some more fiddling and came up wiht the following results.

using container mkv, and AVC as codec.

i started with 1920x1080 crank 60s sample gone through handbrake reducing it to about 6mb.

1920x1080 through

1282x726 do not play. at all. unknown file.

1280x720 and below play without issue, and play damn well.

the file is exactly the same codec and container, just resized. so i believe it to be an issue with the player.

http://cerjturb.net/u/crank_test_1080p.mkv

does this play on ANYONES device inside video player.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Miami_Son:
Ooh, my internet shorthand has revealed me as a fraud. You got me.;)

Your insistence on trying to play HD videos larger than what the device is designed for brought to mind a good analogy. You sound like a guy who bought a nice sports car and is appalled at finding out he can't run it in the Indy 500.:D
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Miami_Son:
Could it possibly be that your video is simply beyond what the player and/or the device is designed to handle? Square peg, round hole, I say. 1280x720 is indeed within the scope of the HD specification, so there is no fraud in saying the device can play HD content. It just can't play the high end of the HD spectrum. Live with it or get another device.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxjivi05:
He's just trying to find away to not reconvert 3,000 hours of videos... if there was away for the computer to transcode to 720p to the device but leave it 1080p for the ps3 but not make 2 files for one video.... how hard is it to want that??? Tversity works for that but it don't detect the device as a mobile device that wants 720p it either does 1080 or goes way low and looks like crap... we want it to do both 720p for they device Ans 1080p for the ps3 at the same time.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Miami_Son:
I understand that, but it's like complaining that his old tube TV won't display HD signals. Or that his DVD player won't play BD discs. It just wasn't designed to do it. For a device to transcode 1080p to 720p on the fly would require a lot more horsepower than what the Captivate has under the hood. Accept and move on.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] opcow:
First, I understand why you want this; it's a matter of convenience and I don't blame you.

It may be the same codec and container, but what is the bitrate? A lot more data may have to be pumped through the i/o system and larger frames are going to have to be resampled. I'm not saying it is impossible on the hardware, but it might be. I seriously doubt that it's just a matter of some bug, oversight, or intentional disabling of 1080p without good reason.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kionic:
Handbrake never works for me .

Takes forever .

I just split the movie into different parts and put it on my sd .
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cerjam:
720 is 900, 1080 is 1300.

it's not even convience really, it's to the point where i have to figure out what the problem is lmfao i've talked to somebody saying 8gb 1080s worked, while >10 video didnt play. so i KNOW its possible, i just have to figure out how.

i find it strange that it'd play 1280x720, but not 1281x721. hence why i think theres some limitation in the player.

and miamison, you shouldnt have any devices listed on this site. get an iPhone, or better yet, go back to your razr. xda-devs is for tinkering with your device. the hardware can do it. it's proven. you obviously have no interest in doing anything except what samsung intended you to do on the device, which is not what this place is for. you wouldnt have android on that rhodium without people going well android didnt come on this device but yaknow what im gonna make it work anyway.

edit: kionic, are the files 1920x1080? or above 1280x720?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] opcow:
I don't know what codec you are using, but as 1281 is not divisible by 16 try 1296.

Edit: I think you said you used handbrake, so I assume mp4.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Miami_Son:
Whatever you say, dude. My expertise is not in question, your ability to understand limitations is. Not every problem can be solved with dedication and perseverance. You go right ahead and keep pounding on that square peg.:D
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cerjam:
actually, they mostly can. and being as its software based, it definately can.

also, that test file confirmed working on SGT. so it aint hardware. its the sgs video player. i need a 2.1 stock rom other than odin1click.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] opcow:
Context? What can what?

Edit: nevermind, I see.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Miami_Son:
I don't share your enthusiasm precisely because I've been working with computers since the early '80s when I lived/worked in Silicon Valley. Software or hardware, not all problems can be resolved.

I'm on stock JH7 ROM, rooted and sideloaded. I'll try your test file and report back.;)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] opcow:
You're going to have to do better tests if you are going to get anywhere. I'm pretty sure mp4 specs say the resolution (H and W) should at the very least be a multiple of 2. I'm not saying your test would have worked at 1282x722, but if your video is out of spec then you can't really blame the player for balking.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxjivi05:
I been encoding files and found my 1080p files that are 1920x800 work flawlessly... now I need to find my 1920x1080 files and see if they are the same... I do believe it is in the bitrate...
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cerjam:
i tried many res's between 1280x720, not just oddly sized ones. the point of 1281 was to show that is most likely a resolution issue, if it was something else it'd be unlikely to just randomly die after you pass 720p res.

the problem can be resolved when other people have done it. it's just a matter of figuring out how they did so.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxjivi05:
As I said before its a issue invoking codec settings I have 1080p working just fine in mp4 container high quality settings using total video converter. H268 etc.. play in video player that comes with and it works.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cerjam:
maxj, what rom?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxjivi05:
Phoenix's 3.0 with Setrion1.5.6 at 1440Mhz
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Miami_Son:
Hey Cerjam, I finally got around to your test file. First, I played it on my PC using WMP and it looked like crap. All pixelated. Then I transferred it to the phone and tried to open it with the stock movie player. No go, said the file format wasn't supported. I know that's not true because the mkv files I make with PavTube Ultimate play perfectly. You're either doing something wrong with the conversion or your codecs are messed up.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poo22:
You are saying you got a 1920x800 video playing flawlessly on a Galaxy S? What was the movie, codec for audio and video? Somehow I don't believe you because cerjam tried and couldn't get anything above 720p to play at all. I've tried playing 1080p mkv's, mp4, mpg, and Big Buck Bunny (1080p h264 with ac3 audio) and no luck :(

Whats weird is that i saw somewhere engadget claiming that 1080p works on both the SGS and the iphone4, i did some digging and found this thread.

EDIT: regarding all the *****ing about why you would 'even' want to play 1080p on a smartphone: I just want to see it do it, like a benchmark, just to say my phone can. The iphone4 can do it and i'd like to think my phone can do anything [better] too. Op never asked for your opinion on whether to do it or not, only your help.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxjivi05:
When I get home ill post the bit rate I know I was using total video converter though.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blazin619:
So even though your screen res won't show it in 1080p you still want to play it and watch it in 720p.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MikeyMike01:
No one's assuming...
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poo22:
Look everywhere I look to find an answer to this problem there are always replies that point out that the resolution of the galaxy s screen isn't 1080p. Thats not helping, because i still want to play the file why are people so inclined to talk me out of it (not that you are, just ranting here).
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Miami_Son:
Square peg, round hole, keep pounding.:D
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryboto:
You know, you say this, but there was a video thread where users were telling others they can play 1080p just fine. I've never been able to, on stock, or on a modded rom. Currently I'm using Perception 10.1, firebird kernel 2, can't get even SD movies to stream through allshare anymore. They start for like 10 seconds then restart. Different issue, but maybe all of these video problems have to do with roms?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cerjam:
miami_son, take my file and re-encode it to whatever format you like, first at 1920x1080 then at 1280x720, you will find the 1080 does not work nad hte 720 does.

i have not made any progress on this. After a talk with a buddy in the IRC who confirmed 1080p playing on his i9000, it sounds like it worked on an older stock rom, but he attempted my file and it did not play. and I can't find any stock roms aside from odin1click and it doesnt work for me so GAR.

poo22, i like you. you sound like my kinda guy. what rom did you try the files on? if you havent, you should flash to a stock 2.1 rom and try it there. I think that may work from what i've been hearing.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blazin619:
Its because when you play video with a high res that your screen can't handle then the quality of the video looks worse than the highest quality video your screen can support. Plus the frame rate suffers alot. Sorry but your phone cant demux, or whatever, video that fast. My laptop cant even do that.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MikeyMike01:
After this, see if you can get 4K videos working.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cerjam:
i seriously want to strange all of you people. and i probably would irl.

it is not because the "screen cant handle the quality". ask the galaxytab. same hardware, yet it plays 1080p just dandy. it can decode 1080p, without issue. the issue is the video player. you must have a pitiful laptop if it cant decode 1080. half of my collection of lappys can without issue.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] opcow:
Please don't brag.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Miami_Son:
OK, I finally got around to doing some testing and have some results. The Cranked test file that was posted looked terrible and would not play on my Cappy. I made up some test clips using the BD version of Avatar in both MP4 (Xvid container) and MKV formats. In MP4 I used a 1000kbps video bitrate with 128kbps audio. I made files in resolutions of 480x320, 800x480, 1280x720 and 1920x1080. In MKV I used a 1500kbps video bitrate with 128kbps audio. I made files in 800x480, 1280x720 and 1920x1080 resolution. Neither of the 1920x1080 files in either format would play on the Cappy. All the rest played fine, but there was a problem with the MP4 file at 1280x720. There is some noticeable artifacting during playback. Strangely, this is not evident with the MKV file at that same resolution. I suspect there is more going on with the Cappy when decoding MP4 files compared to MKV.

In looking at all the files it is interesting that there is practically no discernible difference in picture quality regardless of the resolution except as noted above. I could detect no appreciable difference between the quality of the MP4 at 480x320 compared to the MKV at 1280x720. Each looks stunning on the Cappy. What is noticeable is the amount of video in each file. I made them all roughly 10mb in size. The lower res versions are as much as a minute and 20 seconds in length. The higher res versions are 50 seconds or less. Disc space should be a consideration, especially with a movie like Avatar that has a running time of 2:43.

I have attached my test files. I encourage anyone to preview them on their own devices and see for yourself. Even if the Cappy could do full HD videos, with no appreciable gain in picture quality and a huge hit in disc space, why would you want to? What is to be gained beyond saving the time to transcode your movie to the smaller resolution?

EDIT: Unfortunately, these files are too large to upload here (the Cranked file was 10mb, but it was uploaded?). If someone wants to host them I can upload them elsewhere and put a link to them here. Otherwise, I don't know how to get them up. I already spent considerable time making them (there are 7) and testing them and I am not going to go back and redo them. Sorry.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poo22:
Ok so we now we have like 4 people confirming the issue that 720p files are the max res that the cappy will play. And heres the thing - my hypothesis is that the cappy can actually play 1080p files because the hummingbird chip has hardware accelerated decoding for movies. As noticed by someone in this thread your battery doesn't actually drain when you play movies on your phone, while a laptop may use most of its cpu to play the same power. Why? because most laptops don't have hardware accelerated video decoding (a relatively new thing done on the graphics chip) and need cpu horsepower to do this.

So what I really want to get to the bottom of - and mabe a developer or a seasoned rom cook can shed some light on this - is why the cappy maxes out at 720p resolution when the tab can do full 1080? I really want to stress that I think this is some artificial limitation in the rom and mabe a hack can remove it.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MikeyMike01:
The screen on the Tab is 1024 × 600 .
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yuna:
I think this topic is useless. WHY the hell you want to play 1080p on such small size screen?

Only reason i see is the TV Out, but the phone for such output - might be too much for CPU...
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poo22:
1080p files exist. They may or may not be on my devices at a given point in time. I wish to be able to open them.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cerjam:
and we think you're useless, tuna. .. i mean yuna. serious typo =(

if the topic was useless there wouldnt be threads about it. either have something useful to suggest or dont bother.

miamison, email me the files and i'll put them in a folder with my crank copy. i found some old ROMs and im gonna try 1080 on them now. PM me for email or ftp miamison.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazililazn:
Holy ****, actually read the effing thread before you post a comment that is THAT retarded.

The OP has a huge collection of 1080p movies and he doesn't want to convert them all. I mean, do you even know how long it takes to convert 1080p movies?! Even with a i7, I'm pretty sure 1 movie would take a couple of hours.

And I doubt it is too much for the CPU. My iPhone 3GS with a slower CPU (less than half the speed, since my Captivate is O/C'd to 1.3 Ghz), and a slower GPU (SGX530 vs SGX540) could play a 1080p mp4 video (h.264 codec, bitrate of 10 Mb/s) with no problems. The Galaxy S can EASILY handle 1080p videos.

BTW, TV-out only can support up to D1 resolution (720x480) There is a reason Samsung has DLNA support on the phone, so you can playback the 720p video files you record on your phone on your TV.

I posted a thread about this exact topic awhile back and would love to see some devs get involved. I am positive this is a software issue, since the Galaxy Tab, with the same GPU and CPU, can playback 1080p videos.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cerjam:
aha! another smart guy.

I wonder if anybody could aquire the video player from the SGT so we could shove it on the sgs, think thatd work? id say its worth a shot.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazililazn:
That is the exact same recommendation I made in my thread. Sadlyy, I don't have a Tab, and I don't really have any programming experience :/

Sent from.... Waiting for Location....