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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j.bruha:
While similar to the other thread regarding the coating wearing off, I seem to be suffering a different problem with various Nexus S's I've gone through over the past two weeks. I'll do my best to describe the problem, but bear with me as I'll try to be as detailed as possible.

I typically keep my phone in one of three places. It's always either in my inside pocket of my pea coat, one of the angled pockets on the outside of the same coat, or it's in the right pocket of my slacks. It is never in these pockets with any other objects and has either been naked, in the Nexus One pouch, or in the G1 pouch as recommended by several other XDAers.

My first Nexus S formed a pattern right over the menu button on the bottom of the phone. They resembled scratches at first glance, but if you were to completely clean the phone with a microfiber cloth and some rubbing alcohol, they would disappear entirely. Even in most lighting situations, you would never be able to see the pattern that formed. It only became easily visible after I had used the phone and smudged it up with fingerprints. Thinking they were scuffs, I also tried to rub them out with other cloths and solutions, none of which helped whatsoever.

This pattern over the menu button drove me crazy enough that I exchanged it with Best Buy.

My second Nexus S did well for about a week until I noticed a similar pattern forming near the top of the phone by the earpiece. It was three or four slightly curved horizontal lines that all behaved just as the previous pattern did on my last Nexus S.

I traced the cause of these lines back to the G1 pouch as the inseam of the case was rubbing against the screen. Thus, I no longer use the pouch anymore.

Still within the holiday return period, I decided to exchange this model as well. I currently have a brand-spankin' new Nexus S with zero screen defects that I have been hesitant to put in ANY pouch or keep in ANY pocket.

I would opt for a screen protector at this point, but that really defeats the purpose of having the oleophobic coating in the first place. I also have the Tech21 d3o pouch and two of the generic Samsung pouches from Hong Kong set to arrive in the next couple weeks.

Has anybody else noticed this with their Nexus S? I would post pics but I returned both phones with the issue and I have not a camera that would have been able to capture such detail.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ikon8:
Stop using chemicals to clean your screen.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j.bruha:
Why? Is battery acid bad for it or something?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Luxferro:
Mine has a spot where it kinda got messed up. but if you wipe the oils off that spot, you can't see it at all. It annoys me, and I've thought of exchanging it. But my thinking it's just going to happen on the next phone anyway. I don't want to exchange it for a phone that might really be defective, so for now I am trying to not think about it. After all, it's a phone, and over time it's gonna get dings and scratched anyway.... Just like a $50k sports car that you use every day. It's inevitable.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j.bruha:
That's about where I'm at with this problem too, except I really didn't think cosmetic defects like this would happen within the first month!

I kept my Nexus One significantly longer than any other phone I've ever owned and the only cosmetic damage it ever incurred was when my girlfriend threw hers on the bed and it landed on mine. Even that incident only caused a minor scuff in the corner of the phone. The screen, Teflon, metal bezel, all of them remained perfect.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Luxferro:
Yeah, I hear you. My droid 1 lasted me from launch date up until I got my nexus s. Never put a screen protector on it, just kept it in my pants pocket. It's been dropped, has a couple dings, but the screen is perfect. I cleaned it with my shirt, jeans or whatever.

I'm just hoping that if the coating on the nexus s gets worse and wears more, that it can be totally removed with no traces left behind. I don't really care too much about finger prints, as i'll just wipe them off.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] princeasi:
if you pay top dollar for a phone, then you should take the extra steps to purchase proper cleaning solutions for your device. The reason why some people are experiencing this problem is because they are probably using solvents or abrasive cloths that damages the oleophobic coating. For example, like using rubbing alcohol. This stuff is just not wearing off, people are rubbing it off.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] syncro:
@j.bruha: maybe your problem could depends on your after shave (i.e. on your second phone that had problems on top) or on an hand care cream (even too much aggressive)... I think it's very strange that you have the same problem with 3 terminals in less than a week.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] booyakasha:
Completely unrelated, but how do you like the Tech 21 pouch? Would you mind starting a thread with a couple pictures? I know a lot of people have been asking about Tech 21 and their d3o stuff.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Luxferro:
That's not true at all. Many people who have had these issues said they never used any chemicals or liquids to clean the screen.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j.bruha:
That is correct. These "chemicals" were used after the lines started forming. To be more descriptive about said chemicals, I used medical alcohol squares and wipes designed specifically for phones that I picked up from work to try to clean the screen after I noticed the damage. These same chemicals were used on all of the Nexus Ones that came through my household and none of them ever showed any signs of damage at all.

As I said in the original post, these are solid lines that seem to have shown up due to something pressing against the phone either repeatedly or hard enough to make these inconsistencies, despite the fact that all of the phones have been exceptionally well taken care of. Again, I won't call them scratches since they only show up in certain lighting conditions and after smudges start to form from usage. I've seen scratches on a Vibrant I borrowed before I bought the Nexus S and this is totally different. The only similarity is that they're straight lines and not entire sections or hairline scratches like the back of the phone collects too easily.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j.bruha:
As soon as it arrives, I'll fire up a new thread with some pictures of it. It's supposed to arrive sometime next week.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] princeasi:
This is what I said " they are probably using solvents or abrasive cloths that damages the oleophobic coating." It's already proven the NS doesn't have gorilla glass so if you continuously go thru your day without a screen protector then micro-scratches will occur through daily usage of taking it in and out of your pockets, purses, messenger bag, etc. If you're using harsh solvents to clean your screen, then you risk damaging the screen. If you're using abrasive cloths, you risk damaging the screen. Even constant swyping with your finger, eventually the dust particles will scratch it up, plain and simple. The first thread I saw of this, you can tell from the swirls on the screen, more so than not, he rubbed something abrasive or harsh chemicals into his screen and screwed it up himself.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Luxferro:
Do you work for best buy?...lol
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Android Touch:
Off topic but how long do we have to exchange the Nexus S
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j.bruha:
Best Buy's return period was extended until January 31st for everything purchased during the holiday season. If you bought it recently, you have 30 days from the date of purchase.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] princeasi:
If you must know....read a few of my post in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=877497 and i'm sure you're intelligent enough to make a calculated guess.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theinternot:
Great thinking outside the box. Maybe he is shaving with Occam's razor? HAR HAR!:)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] digitalsmoke:
Not sure if this is the same thing happening to anyone, but this has happened on two out of the four phones I have had (others had touch screen issues, right side of screen would stop responding) Basically what happens is after about 4 days a area developes on the screen that looks just a little darker than the rest of the screen. If I touch it, it leaves a finger print. If I wipe it, the print kinda disapears, but there is still a very faint dark mark. I have only used a microfiber cloth to clean all of my phones, and I've never had this issue with any of my other phones including my Nexus one and Vibrant.

As you can see on this phone it forms in the shape of a tear drop. My other phone it happened next to the ear piece and was much bigger.

IMG_1535

IMG_1539

Curious to see if anyone is having this issue.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] digitalsmoke:
I think I'm having the same issue as you have. It's happened two of the four phones I've been through. The first time near the ear piece, on the new one, on the bottom left of the actual screen.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] digitalsmoke:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=884058

Another post with a similar type of issue.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] digitalsmoke:
Bingo! Its the Anti-Glare (Anti-reflective coating) coating

I might be showing my age, but old computer monitors used to get this issue due to the AR coating coming off with time, and that was without having to touch the screen. The same thing happened to multiple Trinitron monitor I had. Here are some examples. While they may be exaggerated, they are the same issue.

http://www.overclock.net/monitors-displays/43525-marks-spots-monitor.html

http://ask.metafilter.com/9704/Damaged-antiglare-coating-on-CRT-monitor

http://72.9.159.100/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1050674
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j.bruha:
So now that my third Nexus S has the same kind of scratches on it, I decided to snap some pictures. I don't know if it's the same symptoms as described above with the monitors.

This one takes the shape of a wide 7 across the bottom portion of my phone, and I believe it was caused by the phone rubbing against the tip of the microUSB on my bed as I slept. I guess.

Again, it disappears if I rub the screen clean, so I smudged the area for this shot.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Ouch dude, those pics hurt;(((

I just use a d30 case for the back of the phone (while im at home as i always put the phone on its back at home) and i have a cleaning sock for when im at university, really padded one;) I have had no problems with any scratches or scuffs...

But i will tell you this, i had a nexus s in the first week of release and i just used an ols apple coloured sock to have in my jeans pocket, and i went to pull the phone out of my pocket while seated pushing the cotton sock up against my jean pocket and that caused a scuff right inthe middle of the phone that i was unable to remove...

so i returned it,

This phone is definitely a fragile phone, and if you want to keep it looking nice for as long as possible your gonna need to treat it like a china doll... Keep it well padded and protected at all times, then at least if it gets marked you have tried your very best;)

JD
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xbearingx:
I seem to be having the same issue with my Nexus S. Only had it for 3 weeks and already have a few small spots on the screen that seem to be missing "coating".

At first I just thought it was smudge but after cleaning, the glass looks fine except for a few spots that seem to be missing coating. Its as if it "chipped" off although there are no scratches at all. I am very careful with the phone but don't have a screen protector.

I have an old ipod touch that i've used for a few years without any issues like this and without any kind of protection. I was surprised that the coating seems to peel off practically on its own.. in so little time.

Is there a way to "recoat" it somehow? I really don't like having any extra layer on the screen since it usually makes the screen look washed out or blurry.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BriEE:
Is there a way titanium backup can create different lists, like one list to restore app+data and another just app?

When I reflash new roms, I like to just restore app on some apps and not the data since different roms can't be compatible on some things...:(
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Best way to do this is to rename the folder "Titanium backup" to a new name after doing each backup. You just need to revert the name when you restore.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BriEE:
not a bad way.. but too bad TiBackup does not have a feature like this, especially I bought the pay one..
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FlatOutRU:
Use MyBackup Pro
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] ZiCoN:
Hey all

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Create your very own look and feel for the HTC keyboard :)

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[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] hacksome:
How to Login?

[updated] : There is a register button ;)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LoveisPeace2012:
There's a lot of kernels emphazing in battery conservation, my question is, are their any kernels where the performance is the objective, like speed and smoothness?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dirkyd3rk:
For sense roms try out netarchys/toast kernel bfs with out havs, for aosp you could try snap turbo its super fast on cm6.

Edit; I forgot to add make sure if you have the new 0004 hardware like I do make sure the kernel supports the camera driver or it won't work.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chogardjr:
They are all built for what you ask for. The battery thing your seeing a lot of is just an add benefit for the already built kernels. I use Netarchy's 4.2 kernels as they seem to be best for speed and battery.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LoveisPeace2012:
Yes I actually do have the new 0004 evolution, does this mean the camera wont work?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chogardjr:
You can use Netarchy's beta 4.3 and your camera will be fine. You can get the stock HTC kernel #15 with that SBC battery bit. Your choice. I think you would like Net's 4.3 IMO.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LoveisPeace2012:
I went to the netarchy thread but there's like ten different 4.3 versions (SBC, no SBC bfs, SBC cfs) what would be the smoothest?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nuggyunlimited:
I'm 0004 also my phone happen to like his cfs kernels I'm using the less havs with sbc must say battery life is getting better. The first few days are horrible with battery life but it adjust to your usage.

Swyped From Eva Running Myn's RLS4.95 or My Rom!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bender1077:
I suggest to start out with Net's netarchytoastmod-4.3-cfs-nohavs-noUV-nosbc-universal (No Undervolting).

This is always the best way to start off. No undervolting, no havs, and CFS usually plays nicer than BFS with most evos.

Use for a few days, and then try the less aggressive UV kernel to see the comparison to nohavs.

Then use that a few days and try the aggressive UV kernel to see how your device likes it.

Then ... you get the idea!

Only way to find what works best for your device is trial and error.

Have fun!

ps. I am still using the CFS-noUV-noHAVS-noSBC with great results. No need for me to undervolt.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mroneeyedboh:
yeah its all trial and error... what will work for your evo might not work for mine and so on.

Check out my guide, it may help you out.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=894880
[Fascinate Android Development] rmtobler:
My initial impression after playing around with it for 15 minutes:

Seems to have given my phone new life/snappiness back that it had when I first installed super dark rom and stupidfast 1.54. My phone seemed to be bogging down lately. The internet definitely feels quicker too.

So far so good!
[Fascinate Android Development] deaffob:
will try, thank you for the release.
[Fascinate Android Development] bendbowden:
Great work!

Sent from my Galaxy-S Fascinate
[Fascinate Android Development] FDro:
I don't want to turn you away from your work, but have you considered heading over to IRC and joining the guys working on Gingerbread? I'd assume that the more competent people working on it, the better.
[Fascinate Android Development] Hitokiri24:
Great work, the kernel seems to have given new life to my test fascinate! ADB does however appear to be dead (I got error device not found every time I tried to connect) Other than that I have no complaints, keep up the good work
[Fascinate Android Development] SirGatez:
That is very odd, as I have not had any issues using adb. Please reload your drivers to be safe and double check debug mode has not accidently become disabled. I wired up my fascinate just now and confirmed that ADB is working. (It was invaluable in working with the camera crashes). Also it maybe related to a conflict in the system rom vs the kernel. I personally have not have any issues with DI01 Fascinate stock, and everything worked great using DL09 radio, DJ05 system from SonOfSkywalker (BlackHole 2.4). Right now I am running DL09 Radio, DL09 System Rom from SonOfSkywalker v3, and my kernel from this post, thus far no issues. I am using Ubuntu v9.04 to test right now, and not windows to confirm that ADB is working. I will check on windows later today when I have a chance.
[Fascinate Android Development] jamesbdh:
anyone else having an issue with bluetooth? It says "Turning On" but does not turn it on just reverts back to "off" status.

I still have DJ05 modem and on blackhole 2.3 something but updated market and swype maunally.
[Fascinate Android Development] justaguy17:
Camera force closes when you go to zoom in.
[Fascinate Android Development] wizang:
I assume disabling voodoo would be a prerequisite to installing this kernel? Though I'm curious what partition scheme are you using for this? Is it using samsung's default filesystems for /system /data etc?

EDIT: Forgot to say, this is re-gosh-darn-diculously awesome, thanks for your hard work.
[Fascinate Android Development] SirGatez:
Yes, you MUST disable voodoo before using this kernel. I will put together a voodoo and OC flavor of this for those interested later. As of now I have only been working with non-OC and non-Voodoo in this kernel to gauge how the work changed the experience.

Edit: Oh yes, it uses the default partition scheme. It is a goal of mine to eventually change the formats of partitions (similar to voodoo) but keep the layout, it is my thought that doing so provides the largest window of compatibility between stock Samsung/VZW Roms and custom Roms. With a proper recovery, the change could be performed and backups and restores would work no matter the format of the internal media as the layout remains the same.
[Fascinate Android Development] bwheelies:
I tried this kernel briefly. I couldn't get my computer to recognize that the phone was plugged into it. I use my phone for tethered net access. Deal breaker for me. It would beep once like it was going to work as normal when plugging in an accessory and then beeped three more times in quick succession like the cord was being pulled.
[Fascinate Android Development] rmtobler:
Yea my phone is not recognized by the computer either, even after a restart.
[Fascinate Android Development] Hitokiri24:
Naturally I double checked usb debugging and the drivers (adb connected to my white fascinate just fine and I made a jump back to Geeknik's test kernel to double check that something hadn't died in ole blacky and it registered there as well) I wonder if its just this fascinate (as it has had a laundry list of its own issues). This phone is running Superclean DJ05 completely stock and was fresh off a complete wipe and restore
[Fascinate Android Development] SirGatez:
I can confirm that I am unable to access the phone via Samsung's drivers using Windows XP. [Added this too my list]

Wireless tether does work in case you need it, that is why I hadn't noticed this issue. Good catch!
[Fascinate Android Development] rmtobler:
I really like the transparency of your work. It's refreshing to actually read about the process you're working on and the way you explain it definitely makes seems like you have a good grasp of what's going on. I can never quite tell with the other devs. Anyway good luck!
[Fascinate Android Development] f4ion1:
Agreed! If they can get GB running nobody is going to be interested in Eclair or Froyo.
[Fascinate Android Development] scottxda:
I like the sound of this kernel. Imma flash it when i get home. Looking forward to seeing the OC version

SCH I500 Super Clean v.9 DJ05 Revolution 3.6 OTB oc'd lv1200 Voodoo5
[Fascinate Android Development] CNemo7539:
2 SirGatez.

It sounds like you are pushing towards performance optimizations. Have you checked supidfast sources? I tried it before geeknik left and it was significantly faster then stock. May be you can get something from him.

I really appreciate what devs do here, cool stuff! However I do not understand why that much talent spend in vain... Every developer has his own build, mods and bug fixes. Is this real open source spirit to have so many versions? Looks like brownian motion to me.

Now, you can say that I'm free to do it on my own etc, as other devs pointed here. But, full fledged development it not for everybody by various reasons. I hope it is obvious. Would be nice to see some consolidated development! Then it will be much more easy for mere mortal to contribute to that product. We all have same phone!

Once again I do not want to upset anybody.
[Fascinate Android Development] bendbowden:
Also, great write up! I will report back if I notice any bugs not mentioned above.
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] jbs68:
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[HD Mini Themes and Apps] makisgregoriou:
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[HD Mini Themes and Apps] dudesimo:
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[HD Mini Themes and Apps] makisgregoriou:
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[HD Mini Themes and Apps] LifewareSolutions:
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[HD Mini Themes and Apps] jbs68:
Hello,

It is regrettable that this splendid version is not related to Windows 6.5 .....
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] alan3w2001:
I have a question

Why I can't start Deluxe Moon?

My device only start GPS and then... nothing. Even if GPS has position.

I have installed .NET Compact Framework 3.7
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] LifewareSolutions:
The most probably it's an out-of-memory issue.

After release for WP7 we are focused on some optimizations for WinMo.

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[HD Mini Themes and Apps] rigo007:
I agree...such a pity 'cos this SW is really cool.

Thanks for developing it!