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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheATHEiST:
Did you read the topic properly, this topic is regarding the dev threads not general stuff. If they are a new member then they have no reason to post in those threads and if they are a dev then can ask a mod or admin to maybe move them into a "dev" usergroup and that way they can post.

The whole point is that we shouldnt need to ignore badly posted stuff, the dev section is simply for posting dev stuff not n00b questions.

I think you are missing point slightly, Once a n00b tries posting in there and gets a message about not been allowed because its a dev forum, they are not going to purposely spam other forums just so they can post in there.

Its about restricting n00bs from accidentally posting in there because they didnt bother to read forum titles.

by the time somebody has a certain post count or has been registered member for a amount of time its less likely for them to post in a n00b question/topic in the dev thread.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] AngelDeath:
I dont know, so I have to ask the question, Is there the ability to stop a noob from posting in the dev forum, but allow him to reply? One reason I ask this, is if the answer is no they wont be able to reply either, then the course of action is unjust, because if there is any bugs in a build they cant reply to the thread, if they can, then that might be an alternative, but here is another twist, as well all know post counts can go up very quickly, hence just replying "Thanks" or "I'm going to try this" counts too (Just used for examples).

But I think personally there should be another level now that I just thought of it, Like we have Senior member status, there should be a DEV status, and set the forum if possible that ONLY DEV's can post where others can reply, and if someone is a DEV they can easily PM a mod and the mod can change their status. Or if they want to contribute in the Dev forum like they made a kernel or rom, then that would constitue them to post in that forum.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Archer:
You need to understand and look into vBulletin before you ask for changes to the forum. This is not going to happen.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] meptik:
Can you clarify this a bit? Some quick Googling seems to indicate that vBulletin does allow posting restrictions based on user groups.

My view:

I think setting up some posting restrictions might help keep the Development forums a bit cleaner. I personally doubt there will be that many brand-new members that have any business starting new threads in there. On the other hand, in some cases "noob" status doesn't really have anything to do with it. I suspect that the people who basically just cannot be arsed to read/follow rules will not magically gain wisdom or good manners once they reach a certain post count.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Archer:
The default user groups, which are nowhere near what this thread suggests, can be seen here...

http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/vb2_manual_cp_usergroups

vBulletin can offer what is being sought after on this thread, but administering adhoc user groups on a site that currently has over 3,000,000 members is something that would need to be a paid position, as it would take full-time management.

The mods do a very good job, as far as I can see. The main problem I see here is the recent influx of people that are too quick to answer genuine questions with no answer at all, other than "this is the wrong forum". If someone feels the need to post that kind of comment over and over again then they should request mod privileges or shut up. They only add to the pointless post count with that kind of comment, unless, of course, they actually answer a question, which they generally never attempt. Mods will inevitably move a thread from one forum to another regardless of whether it's been pointed out that it's posted in the wrong place.

As a long-time user of this forum I am finding myself more and more irritated by members who seem to have nothing better to do than try and police the forums, despite having no title to suit their attitude.

Don't misunderstand me - I wish every forum on this site was 100% tidy, but this is a forum for human beings, and we all make mistakes. A committed forum member would not clog a thread with "not here you noob" messages. A committed forum member would answer the question or refrain from posting.

Incidentally, I mean no offense to the OP, unless of course, he's one of the people I'm referring to in the 2nd paragraph above :p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] meptik:
Agreed, flaming never contributes anything useful. Still, quite a few mistakes could be so easily prevented by just familiarizing oneself with the rules, reading the stickies or using the search. I can understand where the frustration is coming from.

I'd say that respectfully pointing out any problems with a post combined with a meaningful reply would be the best solution: you're helping both the poster and the forum that way.

Also, for particularly offensive posts that actually break forum rules: instead of contributing to the mess by posting, just report it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Archer:
Spot on mate.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ceo4eva:
I'm already a senior member so nothing done here affects me. On the other hand I've seen tons of "new" people positively impacting dev builds with feedback and everything. If your tired of answering "what is data.img" ignore it let some other egoless person answer it while we collect our *thanks*.

BTW search is overrated. Just because others aren't born with your keyword skills, shouldn't mean they can't find what they want.

I doubt when asking for directions.. anyone was told to go buy a map
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheATHEiST:
Actually I run a couple of vB forums myself and what has been suggested is entirely possible and very easy to implement.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Dizzle:
As a long time user myself the forum seems to be getting worse and worse. Maybe it's just the explosion of the Android section as I don't remember the WM sections being so inundated with repetitive and lazy posts. I wouldn't consider myself one of the vigilante moderators that you're implying but do find myself motivated to tell some posters to 'read' 'search' or at least 'look at the 1st page!'

The current state of the forums often puts me off going back into certain threads as you just know it will be filled with 100+ pages of dumb questions.

Most of the dumb questions are quite rightly flamed imho, it's very rare that genuine questions are ignored. 99.9% of the time, members bend over backwards to help each other. But there comes a point where if an answer is on post 10, how can someone ask the same question on post 12 then 15 then 20, then 23, then 30...Then post a new thread with the same question :mad:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Archer:
I know it is.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheATHEiST:
Very well put!

I feel exactly the same although I do admit im one of these "vigilante" guys, I find myself getting more and more frustrated that people join site (or have been a member for a while) dont have the common sense or level of intelligence (or just plain lazy) to take 5 seconds to look at the forum titles or use search or look at first page and instead just decide to go and spam the forums or create clone topics etc, Its really getting out of hand and something does need to be done to try and reduce teh ability of creating topic in certain forums like the dev forum. Its a very simple thing to implement and would help a great deal.

I dont think you can do anything about the question forums though, xda has a vB mod that shows similar topics before actually clicking post button so if they ignore that there isnt much you can do as you cant really restrict the posting in question sections.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Dizzle:
Well, when even mods are posting questions and bountys in the dev section to get attention, I fear there's little hope of any solution to this issue. We'll just have to grin and bare it :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mattfmartin:
Yea that was kind of wrong that dharvey did in my opinion. He said everyone else does it. What an example
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheATHEiST:
Wooohoooo!

Looks like I got my wish!! :)

http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/important-xda-announcement-regarding-new-users/

This is fecking awesome!!

Ok its not entirely what I was hoping for, ie senior members only but at least we will have some level of restriction (10 posts) on the dev sections and that should cut down on 99% of the crap that gets posted in there.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bates_1974:
I think one of the main issues is people regardless of their stature just posting non stop in any thread saying

"thanks"

"cheers you're the best"

"OMFG FRIGGIN AWESOME"

etc etc, I thought that's what the 'Thanks' button was introduced for???

I think this is a really big issue but the solution?

Good stuff by the way Atheist, at least it's a start!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hello00:
This isn't really going to resolve everything
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] EndoSurf:
-1 to this (although I've seen they have made a min of 10 posts)

Why?

Because it penalises people who say little and who have been around for awhile.

Basing things on volume alone... Just increases volume.

I believe this will be my 100th post... since December 2007.

Maybe the way to do it is to give people the benefit of the doubt.. If they end up being tards then you wack em in a group that limits where they can contribute until such time as it looks like they are going to stop with pointless posts and having a go at other people.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rnscotch:
Totally agree i've been here since 2007 and this is my first post :p, 10 post limit wont solve anything i'm sure i could get 10 posts very easily if i wanted too!!

Don't get me wrong i do agree the amount of **** you have to wade through has got worse..:eek:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] justwonder:
Sure, now that craps multiple by 10 go to other sections.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] agentaaron:
I have to kind of agree with this statement...though I can Also see the OP argument as well.

I have been here on this forum for years (since the MDA wizard) I poked around and was able to find all the information I needed and never even registered until after I got my G1. Now since 2008 I only have a couple hundred posts...and most are answering other peoples questions. I certainly know how to search, but that is not always helpful either when a thread is 500+ pages.

This is not the only android forum in town, and I'm sure there are devs out there who could easily match the talent of CM and others...who just simply don't use public forums at all. If they try and share valuable input and are unable to...they will just move on.

I do agree though that its most likely the other 99% of people asking the same question which was just asked and answered 2 posts above them...but many times the answer to their question is easier to give than to flame them.

As its been stated, many people here have a huge post count and very little contribution at all because all they do is flame people for not knowing.

Next time you call any customer service line like T-Mobile or your credit card company, what would you do if they called you a noob, told you to read the rules and slammed the phone on you?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheATHEiST:
yes and thats the point! They go to the correct sections.

The whole point is to stop the n00bs from posting "topics" in the dev sections. 90% of the spam that goes in the dev sections is from new members. When new members try and post in there now (when its implemented) they will get a message about this and then post there topic in the correct place.

Firstly its very rare for a dev to have no posts when they decide to post their first release and even if they did have below 10 all they would need to do is contact a mod and Admin could alter their post count via back end, simple.

Second, If I was ringing my phone/credit card company and asking them to help me switch my TV on then yeah I would expect them to put phone down, A phone support line is specifically for that, phone support!. The whole point in this is that a Dev section is NOT for support unless its a reply to a topic. Its not for posting n00b questions as topics.

No it doesnt, Its my understanding is that this new measure is to stop people posting TOPICS in the dev section NOT for stopping them from replying to topics so it would affect most people in teh slightest, the only people this will affect is the idiots who do not bother to take 5 seconds to look and think what section to post in and end up posting topics like "OMG ive bricked my phone" or "OMG how do I flash" in the dev section.

Yes people can get 10 posts quickly but that isnt the point, That means you would try and post in teh dev section find out you couldn't and get a message bout what the dev section is for and after that message if you decide to spam other forums with crap and then end up posting a topic in teh dev section you will simply be warned or account disabled.

This is the best thing to happen to XDA since I joined (apart from android been ported to my HD and HD2 :D)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lms1407:
I'm new to posting also, i've been a pure user before android came, but i think i never got to spam, actualy i don't have a single thread started by me.

How will you tell the diference between people like me, that read, try, fail and read again and undisputedly retarded freaks that post like a 100 [Q] a day and they know it is supposed to be a [Q] infront, but they can't figure the correct forum to post...

What i like the most is EndoSurf's proposition, i've seen it and it works.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chrisgto4:
So i have a question about running sd build while running clockwork from wp7. Will this enable front facing camera????
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MattOG:
Funny... :rolleyes: But this actually highlights what I think is worse.

Certain Devs won't/can't keep their 1st post up to date with FAQ's from their respective builds/releases. This means that, to find if a build/app is stable, what bugs it has, whether they've been resolved, etc. etc. You have to trawl through 300+ pages. 80% of which are comments such as "trying now", "thanks", "Brilliant" etc.

I think more emphasis should be put on whoever is posting the builds/apps to keep the first post up to date with this info, the problem, however, is that they too have to trawl through all the comments just to do that.

The new threads are nowhere near as damaging as this, and IMO, this contributes to many of the new posts being started in the first place. Maybe a wiki-style vB hybrid.... If only...

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[Fascinate General] kipnukmals:
I am having a problem accessing clockwork mod recovery mode, no matter what process i try it consistently takes me to android recovery instead.

info:

samsung fascinate

rooted

Did odin flash back to stock

Did factory reset back to stock

Did software ota update to the following specs:

HV i500.04

M# sc i500

Firmware 2.1 update 1

Baseband S: 1500.04VD101

Kernel 2.6.29

Build SCH i500 DH101

Installed CWm Recovery from market

Installed Asto file manager from market

Installed Titanium backup from market

Opened CWM application

Went through root permissions dialogue

Flashed CWM recovery to 2.5.1.0

Next i clicked on BACK UP ROM which reboots me into Android Recovery Mode and gives me the standard 4 options for the fascinate:, plus it says installation was aborted:

1.After failing to find update package

2. open update package

3. verify update package

At this point i click on the home button and reboot system now.

Next i try flashing a different CWM Recovery version to 2.5.1.1 , 2.5.1.3 , 2.5.1.4 , all resulting in and error message, so i am still using 2.5.1.0

Next i try toclick on manage and restore backups but there are no backups listed even thouigh i did back up Rom earlier.

next i try to install the Geeknik ROM( Stupidfast v1.23(D101) from the Download ROM section.

I click OK to dialogue box that ask do i want to Down Load Rom

The Stupidfast ROM download starts and finishes

Notification bar says download is complete so i click on notification bar and this takes me to dialogue box which asks do i want to back up existing rom and wipe data and cache . i say yes to both and click OK.

Next dialogue box asks do i want tot reboot. i click Ok

i am then taken back to Android System recovery.

No matter what i do in Clockwork Recovery i always end up back at Anroid System Recovery. i have tried all different scenarios -debugging checked.debugging unchecked,clear cache, dont clear cache, back up rom,dont back up rom, usb connected, usb unconnected, Titanium in,titanium out. watched all different you tube videos on subject.

sorry this was so long. i didnt want to miss any answers to any question any of you might have if at this point you want to offer any help. thanks in advance.
[Fascinate General] Kevin Gossett:
You have to flash CWM with Odin before you can use it. Can't just install from the market or ROM Manager
[Fascinate General] kipnukmals:
Kevin, Thanks for your response to my question.

i thought i already flashed CWMRecovery from within ROM Manager. it is the first option at the top of CWMRecovery, also it states under that first choice that my latest recovery id Clockwork Mod 2.5.1.0.

If i scroll down to the bottom of CWMRecovery the last choice shows all of the CWM Recoveries. Recovery 2.5.1.0 is listed at the bottom and is the only one i can flash/install.

In both instances it says that i have flashed this version(2.5.1.0) of CWM Recovery.

I will try whhat you are suggesting and thanks again for the help, it is appreciated
[Fascinate General] kipnukmals:
Kevin , I followed your instructions and flashed the CWMrecovery.tar file with Odin3_1.3 and everything is as it should be. The funny thing is (at least to me) that the CWMrecovery version that is listed when i am in recovery mode now is CWM version 2.5.1.0, which is the same version that i flashed within rom manager. Kind of confusing but at least i am where i want to be. Thanks again for the help.
[Fascinate General] Kevin Gossett:
Yeah, it's just one of the quirks with the Fascinate. Unlike most devices, just flashing Clockwork with ROM Manager only puts the update.zip on your SD card. Using Odin to flash the .tar file installs the recovery, so both parts are needed.
[Fascinate General] rayul123:
where i need to put CWMrecovery.tar in ODIN in which section PDA/PHONE/CSC? 1nx
[Fascinate General] Bawb3:
You only flash things in PDA section, doing otherwise will screw up your phone

Sent from my Fascinate - DJ05/SuperClean/Adryn's 12/30
[Fascinate General] newbly:
?

Im kinda new to all this stuff and just wanted to get some step by step stuff if you dont mind. I rooted my Fascinate tried clockwork mod wouldnt work when i tried to backup after downloading the recovery thing and when i read this you guys said something about Odin so I went to appbrain and downloaded tuxility but now im lost on what to do. Maybe something step-by-step would be good. Really appreciate it! (ps: I know im kinda slow but if you wouldnt mind...)
[Fascinate General] papstar:
The stock recovery does not allow us to run unsigned zips. Thus, we must flash the CWMrecovery.tar to patch recovery to allow us to run these unsigned zips. Then you can flash CWM from within Rom Manager.

Follow these instructions from fallingup's thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=788099
[Fascinate General] newbly:
THANKS

Thanks ALOT this looks really simple the only thing that idk about is how it said to put it in download mode. Idk what that means. Debugging? and do I mount it? Thats all i think. THANKS agian.
[Fascinate General] Kevin Gossett:
Download mode: power off, pull out battery, with Odin open and USB connected to PC hold volume down and plug in USB.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carlcj5:
Hello everyone, im sure that the answer i seek is here some where but ive been searching for a day and cant seem to find what im sure im looking for......a copy of a rooted stock rom for the usa tmobile vibrant that can be flashed via phone.....if someone can please point me in the right direction or add the link or whatever, i would surely appreciate it.

Thanks in advance
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x04ty29er:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=734475

Is that what you are looking for? You can always flash an root it yourself. There is a one button tool.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carlcj5:
Im not sure if thats the way i need to go....i am curantly running axura 2.2.5.9 and everything is opperating fine but i, at this time still like the orig system and just want to flash back to it the way i fashed to axura.....please do forgive my lack of knowledge for i am still in the learning stage but not the scared stage ;-)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cvibe88:
You will more thank likely have to go back to true stock using Odin. I do not think there are any roms that include root access with them. Root acess is what allows you to flash a rom as well as gain super user access to the device.

Here is a link to a true stock 2.1 rom, Flashable via odin only. http://www.mediafire.com/?8kw71bx06an0vwg
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carlcj5:
Ok thanks guys I tried to restore to my back up but it soft bricked I guess.... kept looping in boot up.....but before I did anything I download nero3...so went into recovery mode and load that and WOW! I love it....same feel as original rom so far as I can tell but with 2.2 :-) and some sweet changes
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] coden1ke:
On my TMOUS HD2 I am running a build of Desire 2.2

Its been working great for the better part of a week.

The only kind of problem I have been having with it is when it dies, I would sometimes need to pull out the battery before it would once more charge.

But that really wasnt a big deal for me, my thinking was, well i'll just start charging it before it dies.

Last night I was up playing angry birds and the battery became pretty low, so I called it a night and I pluged it in to my Chome Notebook for an over night charge.

When I woke up this morning my phone will no longer turn on.

My first thought was my notebook lost power and in turn the phone never charged, but that wasnt it.

The I thought maybe the notebook didnt send out enough power to charge the phone ( I have charged it through this notebook before ) so I plugged it into the wall and the charge light just blinked... almost as if it had a full charge.

I went to boot it up and it only flashed my boot screen before shutting off again.

After I repeated this I would eventually get to the MAGLDR, but right after it would shut off.

I took the battery out for about a minute this next time and I was able to boot all the way to the DFT screen, but it shut off yet again.

I checked to see if I could get into the bootloader screen, and I could, but it still shuts off when I get in there.

So currently.... I have it with the battery out for another half hour before I try booting again.

Ok, its been 1 hour now I put the battery back in. When I pushed the power button it didnt do anything. But when I pluged it in, it turned on to the boot screen and once more turned off.

But a few seconds after that the charging light came on.

I am going to leave it like that for a bit and see where it gets me.

Right now, I have it charging from the wall. I will leave it there for an hour or 2.

haha, any ideas?