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[Defy Accessories] xblosa:
What is the thickness of this battery?

I'm not asking whether it fits, I need to know the real thickness because I use a NoCut-DualSim Adapter where the second SIM is placed between battery and cover. There is no room for additional thickness of battery. The Motorola battery is about 4.9 mm.

Would be nice to know how the thickness of all those batteries compares to the original. The shops don't tell.
[Defy Accessories] bbeni:
I waiting your report! thnx
[Defy Accessories] skattegat:
The thickness of the 2200 mAh battery is exactly 4.70 mm.

Fully charged at Thursday 05/19/11 at 12 AM. Today, Saturday 05/21/11 at 9 PM, 57 hours later, the battery's charge is still at about 65%. First charge.
[Defy Accessories] naenee:
But what is your usage pattern?
[Defy Accessories] javi422:
+1

is this test as normal use or strictly for trying to see how last it will last with minimal use and extremely low vsel settings? (if overclocked and undervolted)
[Defy Accessories] xblosa:
Perfect, I will give it a try.
[Defy Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
For me it's the same use. I gave my review some posts ago. I'm very happy with Mugen.
[Defy Accessories] Israafiyl:
http://cgi.ebay.com/3500mAh-Extende...ccessories&hash=item4159e30161#ht_1306wt_1158

Do you know if this battery is safe to use?

It's too cheap to be true!
[Defy Accessories] DEFYdepp:
i'd like to know as well!!
[Defy Accessories] reaperzero:
spider sense tingling :/ its too good to be true :s
[Defy Accessories] rd_no:
Skattegat; how did your test go, is there a noticeable difference between the stock battery and the obostore one?

Does anyone have any long-term experience with batteries from this store? Being so cheap I'm worried about quality. I would like to feel certain that it doesn't catch fire during charging or melt down in my pocket and so on...
[Defy Accessories] skattegat:
My testing was normal use. Ok, I am no heavy stressing user and my Defy is running in standby most time.

But results are very good. Actually the obostore battery has been charged for the second time at Sunday 12 AM. Today, Thursday at 8 PM, the charge level is still at 50 percent.

The charging process itself works very fast. As fast as the original battery. No heating, no atomic explosion or so... ;)
[Defy Accessories] DEFYdepp:
wow!!!

Did you have to re-calibrate the battery settings (does it show correct percentage?)

how long took shipping?

THX
[Defy Accessories] moeloo:
If you wanna buy a Mugen battey 123VC gives you 10% discount
[Defy Accessories] DEFYdepp:
thanks 4 the info
[Defy Accessories] skattegat:
I replaced the original battery at 100% charge level. Before doing that I charged the obostore battery with an external charger. This charger is from obostore too.

Shipping took about 2 weeks to Germany.
[Defy Accessories] DEFYdepp:
mhh... do I definately need a charger or can I do it without? Does a calibration of the battery (with this method) work with higher capacity batteries (greater than 1500mAh) as well?

thx
[Defy Accessories] Darmach:
Did someone bought that one already?

http://cgi.ebay.com/3500mAh-Extended-Battery-Cover-Motorola-Defy-MB525-/280680923489?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4159e30161#ht_1306wt_1158
[Defy Accessories] ABC_Universal:
That does not really calibrate the battery. Lithium battery doesn't need any calibration by users. That calibrates the android battery display only, by removing the not updated stats from your system. Just use the phone a few days and recharge a few times, the system will calibrate itself.
[Defy Accessories] skattegat:
I'm using my external charger not for calibrating anything. But with the charger there is no need to exchange the battery for charging. That ist more comfortable and I will ever have a charged replacement. And the charger costs about 2,- € only.
[Defy Accessories] Darmach:
Did someone bought that one? May anyone post a picture how does Defy looks with that extended battery?
[Defy Accessories] FreVDP:
it looks like sh*t :)

http://www.obostore.com/3500mah-extended-battery-for-motorola-defy-p-1076.html
[Defy Accessories] skattegat:
But it doesn't smell and taste so... :D
[Defy Accessories] lamed:
watertight?

I asked two sellers on ebay and they both said that the case is not watertight :'( I hope that they're wrong, anyway a good item to have. has anyone got any experience with that?
[Defy Accessories] drfakeacc:
I wouldn't guess anyone has put his defy into a glass of water if they are not granted to have it watertight.
[Defy Accessories] stapuv:
for sure it will not be water resistant, but if you want to use it in the water:) you take your original battery

look at the picture here and look at the back of your case
[Defy Accessories] lamed:
mmhm, not sure what can I learn from those pictures and the back of my phone? I looked at them quite a lot and other than the flange that is pushing the cover out it'llwhen its not locked properly, it appears similar to me. What do you see?

anyhow I've bought one since it'll be brilliant for me when traveling/bushwalking/ using the GPS for navigation with bicycle. I'll report about it.
[Defy Accessories] dailybaab:
andida 2200mah battery

i've been using the andida 2200mah battery (from obostore, linked before) for about 2 weeks now with the same habits as earlier running on the original battery (same softwares installed&running as well), so i'm way after the "5 times of charge to reach final capacity) and it lasts about 10 hours less than the original one.

data sync (rss & mails in 3 accounts) in every 30 minutes, about 1h of browsing, 1-2h of calls & some text messages and it shouts for a recharge about 12-13 hours after i take it off the charger in the morning.

i'll try to measure the actual capacity when i'll get back my gauge to give an exact picture on that. and will ask a friend about his experience with the battery (has another one, ordered the same time last month)
[Defy Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
That sounds about right. Mugen is very trust worthy, and the highest they can get is 1700. I wouldn't trust anyone else, or any higher capacity without it being a much thicker battery. At least you proved what we were thinking. Sounded too good to be true.

Sent via 1s and 0s through time and space using my Defy.
[Defy Accessories] Cocolopes:
Has anyone tried this?

http://www.wirelessground.com/motorola-defy-extended-high-capacity-battery.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eizXCH7zAI0

I think I'll never be able to buy it, because I'm from Argentina and I don´t have paypal account or credit card, not to mention that I do not think that the shipping is cheap.
[Defy Accessories] reaperzero:
im trying out the battery i got from mugen. was fast since i live in malaysia the package reached me in 10 days :D been using it for 3 days and its just reached its 2nd charge cycle. can really see the difference. :D
[Defy Accessories] reaperzero:
draining a lithium battery to 0% is a really bad idea. doing that on nickel battery are ok but never of lithium
[Defy Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
Never heard of Monaco before, but I did some searching, and all the reviews see to be positive. The look of it seems quality, and it overall looks like it won't add much bulk. The water resistance may be compromised with the third party door, but it seems like a good trade off for such a higher capacity. I'm going to do some more research. I may just get one. Thanks for the info, and links.
[Defy Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
Well it was calling to me too often, so I had to order one. After some cycles I'll post some comparison results.

Sent via 1s and 0s through time and space using my Defy.
[Defy Accessories] actino:
Ordered an extended battery from ebay around 2 weeks ago. Still have not arrived yet. Will see how it performs when I finally get it. It's a 3500mah battery with battery cover.
[Defy Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
Got mine Monday. Only on second charge, so it's a bit early to tell full potential, but as of right now it's at 44% left after 1d 2h 5m 12s. Screen on time is just over 3 hours. It's the 3500 Monaco. Not bad.
[Defy Accessories] actino:
Roughly how long was your battery life with roughly the same usage with the original defy battery?
[Defy Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
I would have gotten about a day and a half. I think the phone has to adjust to the new battery stats. I say that because I use the battery calibration tool and it was done on a 1700. I just did it for the 3500. First charge and it's been 2 days 15 hours with 5 hours display on time. Here is the funniest thing. The calibration tool says let phone drain until it turns off by itself after initial charge, but it's been on 1% for the past 15 hours! I hope the calibration works after the next charge, so I give an accurate reading. Still 3 days is great either way. Well at least 3 since it hasn't shut off yet. LOL

Sent via 1s and 0s through time and space using my Defy.
[Defy Accessories] stapuv:
original battery 25% - 2d16h44min - 1h13min - voice call + 1h 40min display

but on android 2.3.4 - cyanogenmod 7.1.0-RC0

What's the difference between the original battery and this 3500 battery
[Defy Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
More use before charging is needed. Being on GB helps you greatly as it manages the system much better than FroYo, so you will get about 15% better battery use on GB. You have 25% with just under 2 hours of display on time. After crunching some numbers if you use the 3500 with your use you probably would have at least 50% left. Mine finally died at 3 days 3 hours. Just over 5 and a half hours of display on time, and that was trying to kill it with always playing Youtube videos over and over. And it's just the second charge, so it will only get better for the next couple of charges. I probably will get around 4 days easy with it.
[Defy Accessories] stapuv:
yes it is good but with the original battery you don't know how much was holding??? sorry for English
[Defy Accessories] hottracks4:
So.. Finally which would be most recommended?? Cuz i got one of those 3500 mAh batteries from ebay (It was one with the Monochrome-black and white, sticker on top) and it never even matched the backup of the original battery.. MEGAFAIL! The dude returned half my money.. Sad..

So now i need real power in my Defy..!

I also got the Galileo 1600 mAh.. That's a very decent battery! Gives a tad bit more than the stock.. Barely noticeable but really nice.. I'm using the original and this is rotation for now..

So someone gimme a heads up on the best one out there.. With the longest battery life.. Not Mugen please, however good that may be, it'll burn a mega hole in my pocket.. Anything else is cheaper than mugen.. :P

Cheers! :D
[Defy Accessories] hottracks4:
Are any of these any good??

http://cgi.ebay.com/2400mAh-BATTERY...324?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2563ce3504

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Extended-ms...682460?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item415a872c9c

http://cgi.ebay.com/AccWalk-Extende...449894?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4aab3c8466

http://cgi.ebay.com/2400mAh-Extende...310914900?pt=US_Batteries&hash=item5ae057eb54

http://cgi.ebay.com/EXTENDED-BATTER...ronics_Batteries_Chargers&hash=item2a1187a19b
[Defy Accessories] actino:
Pretty good really at double the life. I love it being at 1% for 15 hours hehe.
[Defy Accessories] ezantera:
Is that chinese for 10 $ good and really 3500mah or not? Come on people....
[Defy Accessories] hottracks4:
Nope.. Not real.. Got it.. Sucks worse than stock.. :(

Swyped using my Motorola Defy running CM7! :)
[Defy Accessories] stapuv:
2x1500 link
[Defy Accessories] sferrariba:
Hey does this void warranty?

Enviado desde mi MB525 usando XDA Premium App
[Defy Accessories] stapuv:
what to void warranty?
[Defy Accessories] sferrariba:
Using a battery other than stock

Enviado desde mi MB525 usando XDA Premium App
[Defy Accessories] stapuv:
no if you have to send the phone to warranty you change the battery with original battery
[Defy Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
That doesn't even matter as they ask you to remove everything and just send the phone. No battery, battery door, sim, SD card. Just the phone.

Sent via 1s and 0s through time and space using my Defy.
[Defy Accessories] sferrariba:
yeah silly question, ill try not to lose the original battery then!
[Defy Accessories] dumrul:
Hey i ordered the 2200 from obo store has Anybody tested it if is Good or Bad?

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[Defy Accessories] dailybaab:
hi, i've even posted about it on the 5th of june in this topic. lasts for about 30% less than the original.
[Defy Accessories] 8nexus8:
So what is the best extended battery to use? what about the monaco 3500? is it any good?
[Defy Accessories] dumrul:
The 2200 battery is here and it is better than the original the 3500 battery is to big for me but it is the best one. ;-)

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[Defy Accessories] 8nexus8:
And have you tried it out in the long run? if so, how is it then?

and what about the 3500 monaco battery? it looks promising, i dont mind getting a bulkier phone for so much extra juice, not to mention it costs almost like the 1700 mugen battery
[Defy Accessories] dumrul:
There is 30% more energy in the 2200 but iam at the third charges but i think i cant get more than This and i doesnt have the 3500 sry bro

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[Defy Accessories] dailybaab:
after failing with the 2200 mAh battery from obostore ( obostore.com slash 2200mah-andida-battery-for-motorola-bf5x-p-787.html ... sorry, no links allowed to me yet :) ) i'm thinking of another alternate ..... does anyone has any experience with these batteries:

- 1700 mAh from ecelluk ( ebay slash 1700MAH-HIGH-CAPACITY-BF5X-BATTERY-MOTOROLA-DEFY-BRAVO-/200585666294?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2eb3d65ef6#ht_2152wt_1139 )

- 1800 mAh netcom battery ( ebay slash ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190544431675 )

- common chinese 1800 mAh battery ( ebay slash ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320716459655 )

- another common 1800 mAh battery, probably same as linked before, but for twice more ( ebay slash eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200575833458 )

i'm not considering those with extended size, because i often get wet through in some heavy rains, so water resistancy is a must have. especially when one gets drunk and decides to go swimming ;) so if anyone has tried any of these above and can compare them to the original factory battery, then please reply to my post. thanks.
[Defy Accessories] madcap1973:
Mugen 1700 mAh

Ordered the Mugen 1700 battery last week. Waiting for the shipment to arrive.

Running CM7 110629 nightly, and using Battery Calibration.

Getting about one and a half to two days on stock battery, but this is with a lot of screen time and listening to music. No data in background, only when needed - same with wifi.

If I can get up to three days use on the Mugen with unrestricted use, I will be very happy - guess time will tell ;) Will post my results here, included somewhat detailed log-book as per usage.

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On third cycle now - recommended usage is full charge 4-5 times and drain to 10% between, no spot charging. It certainly holds better than original battery, hoping for even more juice from it after full initialize and battery calibration. Getting about two days now - but that is with data enabled and much screen time (on 110711 nightly now).

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New update:

Ordered the 2200 Andida battery as well. Hey - it's cheap - at that price what can go wrong??

On third or fourth charge there - remarkably it seems to hold better than the Mugen. Also bought a usb-charger, so it will be easier to make those long charges while enjoying the phone all day long.

Getting 2-3 days on the Andida now, CM7 BOOTSEA with latest nightly...
[Defy Accessories] marhensa:
got this desktop charger and spare battery last week..

it's good, the performance is just like the original, since it's the same 1500mAh.
[Defy Accessories] drew17095:
i too bought the 2200mha andida battery from the obo store found no difference for the first week but now i definatley get more out of it i used to have to charge the moto batt every night i can now go 2 days between charges.
[Defy Accessories] zakoo2:
@madcap1973 you stole my background! :P

anyways, im really considering mugens 1700mah battery, since im running 800mhz, but want to run 1000mhz with the same battery life. BUT, ive seen something else:

http://yoobao.en.alibaba.com/produc...andard_battery_for_MOTO_MT870_XT882_BF6X.html

i know it doesnt say it supports mb525, but since the defy uses bf5x, and this is bf6x, and on the second picture the charger of this battery sais "mb525 defy", i think it can be used with our device. what do you guys think?

EDIT: for those, who would consider a battery with extended battery cover, have a look at this:

http://www.smavtronics.com/2400mah-...with-cover-for-motorola-defy-mb525-mb520.html
[Defy Accessories] matrigs:
the newly anounced defy+ has a 1700 battery. so once it's on the market there will be original spares and you won't have to buy cheap chinese ones.
[Defy Accessories] nameite:
I had an andida battery before...same one 2200ma and for the defy...after the 3rd week it doesnt recognize anymore for the phone, keeps on telling me to use a motorola battery...

Problem to this is, it keeps on switching off randomly, cannot charge through USB...it did seem awesome before all that happened... :(
[Defy Accessories] dh33r4j:
Any idea when the Defy+ will launch?

It has a higher capacity that we could use.
[Defy Accessories] ruy_vilela:
1500mAh

1700mAh

this is very low

Look that...

as I am beginner, can not post link's ...

then add the space:

ebay. com/itm/2430MAH-HIGH-CAPACITY-BF5X-GOLD-BATTERY-DEFY-BRAVO-/200627217765?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D1%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D1731803907255541341#ht_2218wt_1139

:D:D:D
[Defy Accessories] malteof:
Are we even sure it will have the same contacts?
[Defy Accessories] thiagobolivar:
I really hope that the battery of defy+ were compatible with defy! And the price in Brazil doesn't cost my eyes!
[Defy Accessories] Kenjo36:
I Found a 3550Mah Battery + Cover on eBay. But it's too large ! :S
[Defy Accessories] berthur:
I ordered a 3500 mAh Battery from ebay and used it for several weeks.

It's huge and heavy.

I'd say its like 2000-2200 mAh at max. since it gives me 5 days while stock battery 4.

My opinion is its simple isnt worth it... :(
[Defy Accessories] nameite:
Yep, I have to agree with you.

Definitely not worth it, what would be more worthwhile is buying one of them portable chargers that carries 3500mA, like those used for iphones and X10 minis...now those charge quick, can leave it in your bag and charges your phones battery in like an hour (so they tell me)
[Defy Accessories] peetr_:
I am very satisfied with this battery after one week usage.

Don't know if it has so much capacity, but it has more than the original one and it's much less heating.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLD-2430...ltDomain_3&hash=item3f0c8664e9#ht_2154wt_1139
[Defy Accessories] trevor68:
Yeah I bought the 3500 with cover and charger off ebay for $12. It lasts me about 4 days on average, but i have already gone back to stock so my case fits.

Might check out that Gold One. :)
[Defy Accessories] BBOXPT:
So, anyone else has good feedback on that Golden Battery?

Already heard that they were good to Samsung Galaxy S, but i would like some more feedback about the golden onebefore buying :S
[Defy Accessories] cybertlc:
That would be so sweet
[Defy Accessories] Normano64:
Read the sellers feedback: http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayI...ch=negative&interval=30&_trkparms=negative_30

It seems like the Battery actually is 1450mAh.
[Defy Accessories] peetr_:
Under the sticker is written this:

HD 484261 Ar

11E06NF1500

Looks like 1500 mAh

But as I said, it lasts longer for me, but maybe only because it's new.

And it is much less heating.

I never believed, it has so much capacity, but I hoped it could be 1800 :-)
[Defy Accessories] madcap1973:
Battery collection

My battery collection now includes:

1500 Original Motorola battery

1700 Mugen Power battery

2200 Andida battery from Obostore

3500 battery from Obostore

Currently using the 3500 one - on second charge now, and definitively better capasity so far.

17 hours usage now, 81% remaining battery.

Usage on current charge:

Some surfing on both 3G and WIFI - approx 2 hours, listening to music - about 4-5 hours. A bit of gaming - 1 hour or so.

CM7 130911 nightly.
[Defy Accessories] nameite:
Surely there is a way to test a battery? So many fakes these days
[Defy Accessories] farsight73:
Better stii get the Defy + original battery as it carry higher capacity and guarantee original. problem is where to buy it?

Sent from my awesome Moto Defy: Stock Rooted Gingerbread 2.3.3 - XDA Premium
[Defy Accessories] efpob:
I bought this battery but it wouldn't charge for me. It says it is charged from 4% to 76% for example, then when you power it up, you get to the desktop, but then it shuts down and the charging display shows 4% again
[Defy Accessories] peetr_:
And what if you try to wipe battery stats? If you are not rooted, maybe try wiping data, if you can. Maybe it won't help, just trying. I am using it with CM7 RC1.5.
[Defy Accessories] marhensa:
does Defy+ battery will fit on our Defy?

for me, the only interesting part of Defy+ is the battery.
[Defy Accessories] veimus:
All batteries GOLD series, with a capacity 2430 mAH is fake. I had the battery from this series in my Neo, worse than the original even after three full recharges

No one wondered why they have the same capacity despite the other sizes?
[Defy Accessories] efpob:
Using the same, wiped battery stats, still no change. It goes from 4% to 15% to 29% to 59% in about 30 seconds and then just stays there for hours.

When I try to turn on, I get to the unlock SIM prompt, but then it just restarts and goes back to the battery charging display

and I guess this is why! Ah well
[Defy Accessories] rolindadice64:
How does the 2200 Andida battery compare to stock?
[Defy Accessories] TheYama:
Gold 2430mah bf5x business battery for motorola defy

Hi all,

I bough this battery on ebay, and now test it.

Whit common use my Defy with original one, battery ent after two day. This battery have double capacity, and in my defy live for three days. Itš not bad, every day is good ;)

This is official info about the Gold battery:

Made in Japan

2 year warranty

Utra-high capacity battery

Maximises time between charges

Delivers superior performance

Robust & durable battery

Direct battery replacement

Stable and safe to use

No memory effect

Uses Li-ion technology

Capacity: 2430mAh

If I have some new info, I write ;)
[Defy Accessories] SpookyAwol:
Link to said battery? or is it one of the relabeled 1500 ones? A fresh battery can appear to last longer than a tired old one.
[Defy Accessories] TheYama:
http://viewitem.eim.ebay.cz/GOLD-2430MAH-BF5X-BUSINESS-BATTERY-FOR-MOTOROLA-DEFY/270793073897/item
[Defy Accessories] marhensa:
DEFY+ Battery (1700 mAH) has same dimension and voltage with DEFY.

about the connector, he replied again, and it looks same.
[Defy Accessories] mdt24:
The battery of new Defy + (1700 mAh) is EOM Motorola parts ref. : HF5X.

It's currently the battery of Motorola PHOTON 4G...
[Defy Accessories] ic3d:
I bought the 3500 mAh battery on DX and have a question about it. I only charged (and used) it for the first time this week. The battery life was extended for about 15% thus not worth the extra thickness that comes with 3500 mAh.

Could it be that Android (2.2.2) doesn't "know" this is a 3500 mAh battery, instead of the 1500 mAh. Or should the Defy be able to detect it somehow?
[Defy Accessories] berthur:
It's not a "knowing" problem.

The 3500 mAh battery is simply not 3500 mAh but much weaker.

Had the same result with it so switched back to stock.
[Defy Accessories] webbimato:
Problem is that cheap battery. No way of knowing what it is holding inside. Label can say theres a fusion reactor and solarpanel but instead there might be some 1000mAh battery without proper safety equipment.