yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] boomboomer:
Free version has batch restore/backup included, but it does separate system and apps - you will need to do both to avoid setting up your system again.

To avoid both you and google trying to restore your apps at the same time you can add titanium.apk to the ROM zip before you install it, so you can restore the system before logging into your google account/setup wizard.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jimvsmij:
Everything is up and running! and I now have 3.2a! Thanks to everyone that helped a wanna be geek like me!

I did find that the free version had me do what you were saying but I figure that I can't complain because free is free. :-)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Dac-os:
Yes i have disabled them
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sblar:
Going NAND

I have tried several SD based ROM and never seen a reason for going NAND. One of the reasons, was that I had some apps which only ran on WinMo. The fact that I have no use for them anymore and the fact that I'm having data connection problems with this ROM (missing connection which only resumes after switching to flight mode or wifi and back), makes me finally look at NAND,

and here is where I could need some help.

First of all, I find it hard to decide if I should use cLK or MAGLDR. What are the pros and cons?

I have checked forums of both but are still very uncertain on the flashing methods and options, it seems that you have to have some pre-knowledge about the whole concept of recovery - which I don't. I know about flashing WinMo ROMS, radio, HSPL and that stuff, but I just can't seem to get the grasp on this.

Also, I'm confused about:

-RMNET/PPP

-dtapps2sd and/or A2SD, maybe it's the same. What does it do that Android itself doesn't?

-Android recovery

-CVM

What are these things - a few words on each would really be appreciated?

Please don't respond with the (thankfully unusual) RTFM - I really tried, but since I don't spend that much time on the forums, it's pretty hard to find the right info (or at least, I find it difficult).
[HD2 Android NAND Development] boomboomer:
There are several guides, I read & followed this one when I swapped to NAND:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=893948

You will just have to read until you get it in your head, it isn't hard and you won't regret NAND, but it is very different to WinMO

cLK, will charge the phone while off but will only do data via PPP, same as your SD build and probably same errors.

MAGLDR, won't charge the phone while off but will do RMNET.

-RMNET/PPP = different types of data connections, RMNET is most stable

-dtapps2sd and/or A2SD, maybe it's the same. What does it do that Android itself doesn't? = puts all your apps onto SD, Android will only normally let you move apps the dev has written to be moved.

-Android recovery = ClockWorkMode, where you can update the ROM, backup etc before Android starts.

-CVM = I think you meant CWM? see above
[HD2 Android NAND Development] CR5N:
Edit: Boomboomer posted link 1st :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] hutc:
hi bug

hi when you touch the green phone button why does it lead to the favourites list in contact instead of the dialer, same result also with the touch screen dialer isnt it supposed to take us to dial launcher instead of the contacts list.the same thing happens with contacts it takes to the favourites list instead of all the contacts.is there any way to fix it.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
Hi,

WinMo 6.5 is now gone on my other HD2 as well, I just installed MAGLDR / CWM on it as well :cool: :cool: :cool:

WinMo had to go as I needed a new playground to test Tytung's NexusHD2-IceCreamSandwich !

Huge Thanx to Tytung for making me this confident in using NAND Android by making his great ROM avaiblable !!

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sblar:
boomboomer and Yank555

Thank you very much guys for your outstanding help, you really took a load off, blast away the clouds and let me see the ligth :)

And what a great guide from mskip!

I now feel ready to take the big step and decided on MAGLDR, mostly because of the data connection - charging is no problem; I never turn it off either.

I'm still a little confused on apps/data2sd, but I will read till I get it ;)

It seems though that I need to use one or the other to get more space for apps and data, since it not like on SD where you decide how large the "internal" space should be from the start.

I read something about CWM, that you should install a certain type (size) of CWM, to hold the ROM you wanted to run.

Is that because the Android OS backup will reside in the CWM partion, or...?

Anyway, time to get a new SD card to play with - just in case...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] boomboomer:
You can worry about data2sd when you run out of room, I've not bothered with it, have 52 apps installed and still 40Mb internal free - just using the Android apps to SD feature and careful management.

Read the first post very carefully, twice, Tytung tells you the size partition you need for this ROM - 135Mb plus 2Mb cache and even gives you a link to it in the install guide for MAGLDR. If I were you I'd write a shopping list of each step to NAND and what you need from Mike's guide, then compare it to what Tytung states to see if you get each step.

This CWM partitioning is what the phone's NAND memory is divided up into for the ROM (e.g. 135Mb) and internal storage (what ever is left), you can make the ROM partition bigger but you'll just loose internal storage for no gain.

If you use CWM to backup (and you should) the backup will be stored on your SD card.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vvixx:
A file explorer is badly missing. Is it possible to install APKs without a file explorer and without registering at market?

Thanks
[HD2 Android NAND Development] tmihai20:
Yes, just get the apk from someone who installed it. I recommend ES File Explorer. Why are you not using Market? Install this one program, you can also benefit from Contacts syncing.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dermann:
@Tytung

Made a little donation (Transaction ID # 7TV78774H1241883H), will do so again when you set up your Releases in your "NexusHD2-IceCreamSandwich" section.

Thanks for being the Dev of my favorite android rom. :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
Always glad to help ;)

There are actually 2 memory spaces, internal (NAND) and SD.

The size you need to decide on when installing CWM is the partition table of the internal memory, which is defined in the flash.cfg file within CWM installation files, here is what Tytung suggests for this ROM :

misc ya 1M

recovery rrecov|ro|nospr 5M recovery_3.2.0.0_leo.img

boot yboot|ro 5M

system ya 135M

cache ya 2M

userdata ya|asize|hr allsize

The system partition has to be big enough to fit the ROM, that's about it. As boomboomer wrote, the bigger the system gets, the smaller the userdata will be, hence the less space you will have left for your apps.

I'm running around 110 apps, and they are using up around 1 Gb, so having the apps on NAND is a no go for me.

If you can cope with the ~270Mb left on Nand for apps, you don't need to worry about this part at all. And as boomboomer also said, you can always worry about this at a later time, if space gets sparse ;)

On my second HD2, which I use as playgournd, I've gone this way :

misc ya 1M

recovery rrecov|ro|nospr 5M recovery_3.2.0.0_leo.img

boot yboot|ro 5M

system ya 350M

cache ya 2M

userdata ya|asize|hr allsize

This leaves a little over 50Mb for the apps, which is about enough for a first start needed before installing DATA2SD (50Mb were used in my case).

This way I have a maximum space left for the ROM itself, not that it would be needed, but rather, since the data partition in NAND is "lost" when using DATA2SD, why keep it that big ? :cool:

And testing other ROMs sometimes causes a problem if the system partition is too small, for instance Tytung suggests for his ICS ROM, I quote :

"Please use at least 190MB system partition (and at least 2MB cache partition)."

This way, I need not worry to repartition anything, and just go ahead flashing and flashing and ... flashing ;)

But that's for my spare HD2, my daily driver is as suggested, 135Mb system, so it all depends on what you intend to use it for...

As for DATA2SD, I like the idea of my apps being somewhere they can't be reached/touched when inserting the SD card in a Windows computer, since they are on a separate partition, which Windows can't see anyway, and use a filesystem (ext4) which Windows also can't read either.

In case this space gets too small, too, you can backup up your ROM (CWM - NANDROID Backup), repartition the SD card (copy your backup away before doing so, as you'd lose everything if you don't), and restore the system (or just the sd-ext partition). I've never done this (since with 4Gb I don't think I'll run out of space any time soon), but should work just fine this way.

Moving apps to SD as Android implements it, puts the apps on the first FAT partition, mixed with lots of other stuff, including my docs, and I'd rather not have that as far as I am concerned.

But here again, this all depends on how you are used to use your HD2, I guess ;)

JP.

PS: Don't hesitate asking if there is anything you want more input on :cool:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] me_malik:
My Wired Headset and Mic didnt work...!!!

Hi All,

I am using this ROM from last few months.

There are few Issues in this ROM which I faced..!!!

1. My Wired Headset and Mic didnt work

2. My HD2 gets rebooted and get hang on Boot Screen.

The reboot issue is unexpected, sometime it happens twice or thrice a day.

And some time it didnt reboot till days.....

Please help me with Headset & Mic issue.. :(
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vandal_:
awesome battery life with old 12.4 kernel. Kernel 14 is much more power wasting.

constant rebooting may be the sign of dying processor.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sblar:
Wow, excellent! It just keeps getting better and clearer and I feel more confident and competent :) Your post has been kept for reference along with mskip's guide and whatever I have found for CWM and other interesting things in that path.

BIG thanks :D:D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
I've been facing this kind of behaviour (rebooting) when pushing the CPU too far (overclocking), so if you use SetCPU or some other kind of overclocking tool, maybe you'd better get back to standard. For me it solved the issue, I'm running on stock 1GHz max, performance is excellent anyway, and super stable, not had a reboot I could remember of !

As to power draining, I see no difference between r11, r12.x or r14 (haven't used r13 long enough...), mine is generally around 4-6mA with WiFi / Bluetooth / Data always on (though not connected). It will go up a bit when in my car while connected to the car's handsfree over Bluetooth.

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] KCLT:
same problem here.

i thought i was the only one. been trying all sorts of methods to have this sorted and i cannot understand what the problem seems to be.

the simple ROM installs ok; however i am in real need for Data2SD, which is not working :((.:confused::mad::confused:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] trex3300:
You need system partition of at least 135MB, so try 5/135/2.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kajenius:
been using this rom for a few days now, and i notice that when i pick up a call i get a force close and the phone locks up.. anyone else notice this?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] trex3300:
Interesting, never had such an issue, not even once. Try to wipe your phone, re-download the rom incase there was a corrupt file and do a clean install.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] me_malik:
I am using SetCPU with max frequency @998..

So it is not overclocked...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sblar:
Finally went NAND :D

Everything went smooth, thanks to the excellent help here. No problems so far and data connection finally stable.

I haven't move any apps to SD yet, and maybe doesn't have to; most preferred apps installed and still more than 80MB free on internal memory.

One question: What is the difference between RMNET and PPP and is it possible to choose between the two?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vvixx:
I don't like it and don't want it. I am in the old "windows mobile" mode, that the phone is yours, and not google's or apple's. and you can do it whatever you want without reporting to them, and without theis OSes spying on you.

With WM you had no connection whatsover with MS. Similarly I try to restrict it with Google. Not sure if it's possible at all with this piece of spyware. Not sure that even a firewall helps to severe the connections. :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] wearefree:
Privacy is a big concern here. However I went for the convenience. I sync all my contacts with gmail before I had android on my phone so I know there is always an up to date backup up there and I can manage my contacts with any computer and any browser.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
Congratulations for the move ;)

If you can manage to keep your apps in NAND, that's the best way to go and I would stick to that if I was you.

And if in the future space becomes an issue after all, you know there are solutions for this problem, so no worries to have there ;)

As for RMNET / PPP, as I understand things, that choice you make by deciding to go with MAGLDR or cLK...

JP.

--------- Update :

See post below by trex3300, MAGLDR can use both PPP and RMNET.

Thanx to trex3300, learned something today :cool:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] trex3300:
Congratulations!

RMNET and PPP are two ways to get data/internet connection. cLK only use PPP, while MAGLDR is capable of using RMNET or PPP, though, MAGLDR uses RMNET by default.

If you are on MAGLDR and wanted to switch to PPP, just search this thread for a file posted by tytung a while back that allows you to switch easily.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] hedgy2136:
I want to say thanks

I've learned that it's wise to wait a few weeks before installing any new builds. I've been using Tytung's for a while now and updated to his latest today. It just keeps getting better, and I believe (at least from the FroYo standpoint), that there may not be a need to update any further. Everything just works now (I'm especially glad that carrier billing for market finally works).

Once ICS is stabilized, I know I'll be playing around with that, but for now, I'm good.:D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] abofihmi:
Mesia sound is low

:confused:Recently I noticed the media sound including ring tone is verl low ( i have it to highest setup).

Any body has similat issue?

Is there a solution for that?

Thanks,
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corrsea:
Use volume + . Increase the speaker level to one that suits your phone. Start low and work your way up. Stop if you get distortion and drop back to the previous level. There are lots of other settings you can fiddle with if you're so inclined.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] h.oosterhuis@casema.nl:
Finally after using this Rom I do not have any RAM Memory problems.

This is a very fast Rom! Thanks for all the hard work!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sblar:
Unable to record long video

I see a lot of different suggestions on this matter and nothing seems to help.

I just want to add that I had no problems on the SD 3.2a version. After switching to NAND, I suffer the same problem of not beeing able to record video for more than a few minutes.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
Hi,

I don't record videos very often, and long ones almost never :o So I tried to record a video to test this.

It stopped recording (image froze) after around 10 minutes, though the time counter was still counting upwards. The resulting video couldn't be read (corrupt file).

I installed MIUI camera from the start, haven't tested with stock camera app though.

What I've noticed is a systematic FC in MIUI camera when I try to access the exposure menu in photo mode (works fine with stock camera). Manged to live with it, since reinstalling MIUI camera didn't change this and couldn't find anything on this here or googling.

But I'm pretty sure it did work when I started using this ROM (3.0). Will install a 3.0 and test this and recording a longer video and get back with my findings.

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] boomboomer:
There is a later version of MIUI camera that cures that exposure FC, I found it on XDA when I was testing the libstagefright and camcorder bug. Not sure it will help with the freeze after long record but might be worth a try.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corrsea:
Re camcorder freeze. Might be a long shot but try using the app sdspeedincrease, it might just help. Another suggestion would be to try a different sd card altogether. I suggest this as it is a problem experienced by only a few people so bar hardware problems the sd card is the most likely culprit.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sblar:
Worth a try yes, but you mention a later version - compared to what version? I mean, how can I determine what version if I just search for MIUI camera (which I did). Maybe a link?

;)

---------- Post added at 06:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:31 PM ----------

Well, I doubt it since I had no problem running the SD version on the same HW.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
Hi,

I now tested a fresh install of v3.0 of the rom on my "test" HD2, which uses a faster SD card (class 6 instead of class 4).

I filmed with the stock camera app, it was still filming fine after over 10 minutes. Then "forgot" to look after it and left it filming, and after ~30 minutes, the record timer was just showing 00:01, still as if recording but not counting upwards, the image wasn't frozen, but the Stop button was not responsive, nor the h/w back button. When I used the h/w home button, the application FCed :( And no video-file to be found on the SD card either.

So there seems to be an issue for longer video recordings, and it was present in 3.0 already.

This I now experienced on 2 different hardware, two distinct HD2s and 2 different SD cards (speed, size and make, cf. my signature for details).

Only thing, both card are partitioned, and the FAT32 partiton is formated with 32Kb blocksize.

@boomboomer :

A link woud be great if you have one at hand ;) I've installed the MIUI camera in the link on the first post by tytung in this thread.

JP.

-------------------- UPDATE :

Managed to find out what version of MIUI is installed (zip of the first post), Setting, Applications, Deatils. It's 15. I've found this post pointing to v17. Is is compatible with this ROM ? Which file to use ? I'd guess it's "MIUIcamera_v17_edify.zip" ?

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sblar:
Thanks guys for putting attention to this camera problem.

BTW, I was wondering, since we can't charge the phone with MAGLDR if it's off, what to do if I run completely out of power???
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
Hi,

Well as I've experienced, the problem with MAGLDR and charging the battery actually is not that you can't charge the phone, it's that you just can't turn off the phone while it's connected to a power source. If it's off, and you plug it in, the phone will just turn on.

Or to put it otherwise, it's not possible to keep the phone off while charging, this probably better describes the "problem".

Give it a try ! Shut the phone off while disconnected. Wait until it's completely off. Now plug it in and see what happens :cool:

JP.

---------- Post added at 07:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:36 PM ----------

OK, I've installed "MIUIcamera_v17_edify.zip" found in this post on my test HD2.

It works, it even has ANTI-SHAKE !! :cool:

This will replace the stock camera though, so I'll reflash and try to install the "MIUIcamera_v17_Fixed2.apk", hoping it will install MIUI camera beside the stock one.

If that works, I will try to uninstall the MIUI v15 camera from my daily phone and install v17 instead.

JP.

---------- Post added at 08:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:48 PM ----------

OK, installed the apk, does the trick, it adds v17 of MIUI camera alongside of the stock camera ;)

And exposure setting works, no more FCs !

Next step, my real phone !!

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Yank555:
It is installed on my daily driver, all working so far, except disabling the shutter sound (need to disable system sound).

But in order to uninstall MIUI camera v15 I had to use Titanium Backup to uninstall a system app. Afterwards I had to restart Android, else the v17 apk refused to install.

Will test recording a longer video now and let you know.

JP.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] agentfazexx:
Weird, Gscript, and camera works fine for me...as does everything else after installing that. Couldn't call it a bug...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Jerommeke:
No issues with the gps-fix here, too. Camera works, didn't try the gps itself though.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] agentfazexx:
I've only had GPS working in the windshield mount, doesn't seem to work when there's anything in the way. Even then, though, it's spotty.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] soneracar:
So I have been trying to keep track of all fixes and add-ons but between gf time and work it is tough. Could someone please list what the fixes are and what add-ons we have so far like the H icon and GPS fix. Thank you foe the awesome build.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Kent Discos:
GPS working fine... got a quick signal by my window, haven't tried it in the car yet though.

only thing we need a fix for now is the high camcorder mode :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Hacksor:
Hmmm...anyone have any suggestions to fix blurry mms on TMOUS? I searched both this thread and the whole Nand forum, tried changing my apn settings..but still getting blurry pics. =\ Gonna try changing my dns now...anyone else got blurry mms issues? That's the only thing now that bugs me about the stock gingerbread builds...I don't want a sense build, and I don't want CM7...but those two are the only ones that seem to have fixed the blurry mms stuff. =\
[HD2 Android NAND Development] DragonRX:
HELP!!!

I cant get to instal some of the things

I Love this NAND version but i'm from the Netherlands

and whant to instal the Multilang Keyboard and the numbers thing and offcourse the Navigation fix

butt everything i do i wont get it fied

anyone got a basic Tutorial with the steps i need to follow becouse the vid doesnt help me at all

so any one that got a thing like

1. go to ......

2. do this

3. do that

4. etc etc

Would be very nice and helps me a lot

u can PM me or just replay with a link or something

Thank u!!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] asphaltkiller:
How do you run fix permissions command?

When I type it I got

fix_permissions : not found
[HD2 Android NAND Development] R3dox:
That's probably because you don't have the script. Just do a search/google on fix_permissions.sh and you'll find it easily. Adding the script is straightforward as well.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Hacksor:
I don't know about the multi-language stuff, and I also don't know what "numbers stuff" you're talking about...but as far as the gps fix goes;

1. Download the .zip file from the Add-ons section in Tytung's first post to your device (so either initiate the download from your device, in which case the file will end up in the "download" folder...or download it onto your computer and place it into a folder on your sd card)

2. Power off your device, and power back on but keep holding the power button to enter MagLdr's bootloader options

3. Hit the green call button to choose the "Boot AD SD" option

This should bring you to the Clockword Recovery screen

4. Choose the Update from Zip options

5. Choose the "Choose zip" option

6. Navigate to the gps fix zip file in whichever folder that it ended up in

7. Hit back until you return to the CWM screen, and choose "reboot now"

8. Enjoy

(This goes for any of the update add-on files in Tytung's post)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] hooutoo:
Hopefully at this point it is becoming apparent that an updated version, say v2.1, is needed.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] richAndroidHd2:
All of my incoming mms are not very clear. Even when I send a pic to myself which is clear when I took it comes thru pretty blurry