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[Android Apps and Games] zx34:
When I'm in the startup manager, I have to tap twice on the mark, the first time I get an eror message but on the other thick I succeeded. I might think this is a small bug in the last update v1.4.5.... :rolleyes:

Edit: The same happens when adjusting the woltage. Have to tap twice on every adjustment button?

Edit: thanks for updates v1.4.6 I see you have corrected these problems. Thanks for your work with this app.... :p
[Android Apps and Games] Croandroid1996:
Hi what is the best option for my HTC sensation ; a.) On boot completed or b.) init.d script.

for forcing all cores online?
[Android Apps and Games] marcus04:
nice apps...thx for introducing bro..=)
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Yep fixed in 1.4.6, sorry for all the crap issues in between. I tried to improve the SU handling using a shared library, but it happens to be less compatible than the old method!

init.d is always the best option, it uses scripts so it is more efficient. Then after boot the app will take care of everything else.

If you have any issues or feature request, feel free to report here or on the app web sites.
[Android Apps and Games] goddamnit:
Hi 3c ,

Would System Tuner Pro add a function that can run script when phone boot ?

Some script like gpu setting I would like to use startup script but not init.d ,right now I use script manager to do that

Thank you :)
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
I'm sure I can add that to the boot settings easily for next update ;)
[Android Apps and Games] goddamnit:
ty for quick reply.

I love your product so much :)
[Android Apps and Games] dertester123:
Hey 3c i love your app.

1.) Could you consider making the entrys in taskmanager a bit bigger/higher? On small screens or higher dpi its sometimes hard to click one. And maby "highlight" somehow that these entrys are clickable? I mean you put a bunch of stats and features in there and at least i was using your app for so long untill i found that there is a page for each app...:D

2.) Is there a manual somewhere?

I was playing with the auto-kill feature. Not sure if i got it right:

The value i set for a group means when free ram left is this or below the apps in this category are killed.

So high value (scrollbar to the right) means apps killed earlier and less multitasking => very light setting

Low values (scrollbar right) ram gets filled untill apps are killed

=>very agressive setting.

How can is check if its working

. I set all left and opened a bunch of apps/was browsing and still ~170mb free ram in taskmanager.

When i set to 256mb and did the same it used ram to ~170-190mb free but i was assuimg that it should kill apps i put all sliders to the right...
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
You can change the font size in the app settings, there's a page for the task manager.

There are help pages (accessible directly from the app settings, at the bottom 'online help') here: http://www.3c71.com/android/?q=node/21

It's not up-to-date, but it's being udpated regularly. There is also a forum where you might find many answers here: http://www.3c71.com/android/?q=forum

The auto-kill feature is Android-based, and honestly I'm not sure beyond a certain point of available memory that it does its job as expected. Indeed it should start killing a group's app when the memory is below the specified limit, so starting at the bottom with 'empty apps'.

I noticed over time that it does it when installing new apps (seems to consume quite a lot of memory) or when an app requests a lot of memory. I tend to believe it does not do much until an app is running out of memory, then it probably check the settings.
[Android Apps and Games] dertester123:
Thx for the answers :D

Well maby there are scripts on the rom is use or other mechanics that interfere with the apps settings.

Setting text size in task manger worked fine, perfect !!
[Android Apps and Games] blumsen:
Hey 3c,

great app!

1. little linguistic issue: Settings-notifications and widgets-widgets update rate- "warning: Low refresh rates will consume more CPU/battery" The way I understand it, it is actually a higher refresh rate (higher rate= smaller ms value) that consumes more battery? anyways English is not my first language so I might be wrong.

2. When you set the 'click on widget' to open for example the terminal - you cannot click 'back' or anything else to take you to the main menu of the app which would be nice I think.

3. Any chance of making, errm how to formulate this, a more visually pleasing widget? I bet that an option for chosing different color schemes will only take a couple of minutes to add, but I would kill for a cool/good looking widget since I have the system monitor widget on my home panel as a quick reference of cpu hz and load (and as a shortcut for terminal), on the side of it I keep the 2x1 battery widget graph and another 1x1 battery widget with mA percent and time since charge. Meaning that I use a 1x4 area and I would keep it anyway because I find it useful and it has an insignificant impact on my battery life. It would be a nice bonus though if it also looked cool.

/cheers and keep up the good work

Blumsen
[Android Apps and Games] zman519:
Could you make the Usage bars on the widget colorable? I dont mind the green on some themes, But running the green on a blue theme & wallpaper just does not look vary good to me ;) It would be nice to have it just like the bars in the task manager with the color picker.
[Android Apps and Games] garywojdan81:
Hey Cedric I just want to thank you for the work you've put into this. You have made this so all-inclusive that it easily eliminates the need for at least a half dozen less effective apps & it just keeps getting better and better.
[Android Apps and Games] zman519:
i 100% agree
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Will be fixed in next update, thanks for letting me know.

That comes to the way Android activities are organized. If you want the back button to open the main menu it would require either handling the back button differently or opening the main menu before displaying the other activity (such as terminal) which would quickly display the main menu. I'll check to add an option to open the main menu pressing back, though I'm not sure how this will behave overall in term of UI experience.

Only take a couple of minutes... :D No way, otherwise I would have made it a long time ago!

To keep things simple, let me just say that widgets are not drawn by its app, it's drawn by the launcher! The app provides a layout and some instructions to modify it, but everything must be based on existing resources!

So as of current version, there is a layout file for each possible %! Creating a single other color theme would require duplicating those 100 layout files, and including all of them in the main layout, showing/hiding only the one to represent the current %!

On Android prior to v2.2, the widgets API is even more limited!

FYI, I used to create an image for the vertical scale, though it turned out to be near impossible to make it fit properly as the actual widget height is unknown! Using images was actually creating another bunch of issues as Android doesn't manage them well (causing memory leaks!).

I'll try to make a ICS (blue) bar in the next update, but as I mentioned above this is actually very complex! So no promises.
[Android Apps and Games] zman519:
@ 3c

Humm... the luncher. Well I'm not afraid to theme things. I use adw ex any idea where I would edit the green to blue or any other color? Maybe I have a ton more to understand about it. (Any thread that come to mind please link me) I have edited xmls in framwork & stuff to tweek text colors. (Like that shake & bake theme I linked to)

BTW thanks for all your work. I got your app when u first had it up & I think I only ran the free one for >24 & then bought it :-) at the time I didn't really think about how well you would suport it & your user bace. When ever I end up getting another android I'll be buying another copy of your kickass app.

Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
In the APKs, you should find a scale.xml file, that's where the color are stored. You will see 3 colors being used, that's for the nice color effect, instead of flat coloring which looks very ugly.

I've started working on this color support, which will be available on Android 2.0 and up only, will first add ICS color and maybe Motorola (red) too. I'll try the flat color too which could then offer the full color panels.

EDIT: BTW, thanks for your support always appreciated ;)
[Android Apps and Games] zx34:
I have problems with the cpu adjustment, it doesn't stick. I have tried init.d script and on boot complete. My rom is ICS 4.0.3. :screwy:

●● █ ELEGANCIA Rom Series™ █ ●● SebastianFM-Kernel ● 4EXT Recovery ● HTC Sensation Z710e ●●
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Very probable it's kernel/rom/config related.

Did you check other existing init.d scripts, if you have virtuous OC deamon running or another app? Also is the kernel handling governor/frequency changes on its own?

I suppose you enabled the 'reapply CPU at boot' setting?

But what do you mean it doesn't stick? After reboot, during screen off/on scenarios?
[Android Apps and Games] zx34:
The problem happens after rebooting and if I turn screen on/off.

I am using ELEGANCIA an SebastianFM kernel 1.51 GHZ, OC.

Sometimes the frekvens going to maks, but other times it goes down to 1.3 GHz :confused:

The script:

#!/system/bin/sh if [ -e /system/cpu_protection ] ; then mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system echo failed > /system/cpu_failed mount -o remount,ro /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system exit fi

mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system echo applied > /system/cpu_protection mount -o remount,ro /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

chmod 666 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor chmod 666 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq echo "1242000" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq chmod 666 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq echo "192000" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq

chmod 666 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_governor echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_governor chmod 666 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq echo "1242000" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq chmod 666 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq echo "192000" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq

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After reboot it looks like this :

#!/system/bin/sh if [ -e /system/cpu_protection ] ; then mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system echo failed > /system/cpu_failed mount -o remount,ro /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system exit fi

mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system echo applied > /system/cpu_protection mount -o remount,ro /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

chmod 666 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor chmod 666 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq echo "1134000" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq chmod 666 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq echo "1134000" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq

chmod 666 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_governor echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_governor chmod 666 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq echo "1134000" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq chmod 666 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq echo "1134000" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq

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I don't have other cpu app installed, :rolleyes:

●● █ ELEGANCIA Rom Series™ █ ●● SebastianFM-Kernel ● 4EXT Recovery ● HTC Sensation Z710e ●●
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
I'm afraid something is changing the frequency after the script has been running then.

When you say after reboot it looks like..., you already opened the app before you check the script, or the script itself is changed just after reboot and before you open system tuner?

If also during screen off/on events the max frequency is changed, again something is changing the frequency, most probably the kernel or a CPU deamon (like virtuous oc).

Can you link the kernel and ROM threads so I can check how it's all setup?
[Android Apps and Games] zx34:
Thank you for helping me with this problem. my rom:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1429953 and my kernel:1.512 GHz OC kernel 3.0.16-g5e58c5e v1.01 for HTC Sensation http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1424345
[Android Apps and Games] blumsen:
1. Oh no.. changing the back-button behavior is no good, I only used it as an example. What I meant is just that it would be nice to have a shortcut for getting to the main menu, regardless of what way you used to start the application. Fx: if you have your widget click set like me to open the terminal, it would be nice to then have a way to get from the terminal to the main menu. I obviously know that when done with terminal I can hit back (get back to the launcher) and from there launch the app normally, but in my world it apparently makes sense to spend time writing all of this here in order to possibly save 1 click in the future :) Its all about energy conservation.

2. Wow I was surprised at how unefficient/ complex it is to render a widget. My experience is very limited but I just assumed the process is much simpler. Anyways everybody knows that a typical 5-minute job takes anywhere between a couple of hours and several days ;) Thanks for the directions to the scales.xml file though, I might experiement with search&replace on the color codes one day until I hit something that fits my theme.

/cheers Blumsen
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Yep, I know what you mean, wish I have that button/shortcut to get back to main screen, could be useful sometimes when you need to access other features of the app. I'll try to put something 'standard' in all screens then. Maybe using the menu button, that would open the main screen directly for example, at least on all screens that don't use the menu...

Oh yes, very inefficient, though it improved since Android 2.0 and 2.2... So I was very reluctant to have different code path for different version of Android! But I wrote it over the week-end, so we can have color themes for the scale now. Implemented ICS (blue) and Motorola (red) themes for now.

I can now add new color themses easily, though the best option would be to have it fully customizable, but this will require creating images at run-time for each possible %, which is not that easy considering the lack of info on the actual height in pixels and the various screen densities.
[Android Apps and Games] goddamnit:
Some customer rom ,we cannot defrost the app which we freeze them .

But we can uninstall -> restore to recover that .

Will it a solution for those cannot defrost ?
[Android Apps and Games] ToddeSwe:
Tip to make the most of it?!

Hi!

I'm using SebastianFM kernal (see sig) and System Tuner.

Can someone give me some tip on how to make the most of it and still keeping the battery for a day 12-14 hours...

I have used ICS test version 2 for a couple of weeks now and i have noticed that it's kinda sluggish and slow when i have unlocked the device. Even after a while it's not as it was the first week.

Grateful for some tip until we get the new version of ICS :)
[Android Apps and Games] dertester123:
The easy things are to overclock and choose a more agressive governor.

Next thing i use is to exclude all apps that i want running in the background and include all system apps that i want killed from taskmanager and enable auto kill on display off. So usually all apps that i dont want to stay active are killed when screen off. Improves battery life and could decrease drain spikes when off.

About I/O manager and sd settings i would ask your kernel dev if there are some recommendations on how to partition(if needet with sensation) and set up settings here. Some have particular optimizations for some settings.:rolleyes:

Hope that helps and was what you wantet to know.
[Android Apps and Games] jtruty:
I tried to use one-click backup and restore, and the backup seemed to happen okay, but the restore resulted in many fc's and many apps not working correctly. During the restore, the apps seemed to keep opening, and having issues. I was able to get the restore to complete, but I had to keep killing the open apps and leaving fc windows open. Has anyone had this happen? I would like to use this instead of TB, but only if it is functional.
[Android Apps and Games] garywojdan81:
Just went through the same thing. Fixing permissions with rom manager seemed to correct most of the restored apps.
[Android Apps and Games] jtruty:
Worked for me as well. Anyone know why we need to do this?
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
How it impact battery life?

Hello,

I'd rather let users answer this question, but here are few points about what I found-out so far:

Widget consumption

- During screen-off widget is sleeping too and uses no CPU at all.

- Rest of the time, one widget takes an average of 20ms CPU to update (on HTC HD2)

So everything will depend on how often you set the widget to refresh!

Recorder consumption

On the other hand, using the recorder (which I often do) uses around 10ms for each sample, the default rate being every minute, it results in a 0.12% CPU usage

Tested in plane mode, screen-off, CPU at ~245MHz! Measured mA consumed was always at 2mA. Will put screen-shots of that later.

Recording rate can be lowered to 5 minutes (for example) which will consume 5 times less and will still bring accurate CPU usage readings.

I'm trying to measure the total % consumed on a 6 hours span, with and without recorder in plane mode to have everything else even, otherwise I can't see much of a difference... Will report findings soon.

Task Manager consumption

This is the most power angry component, as it reads much more data. It's set to refresh every 10 seconds by default (I personally use a 5 seconds refresh rate).

Each run consumes between 70 and 250ms depending on amount of apps running and what's being displayed (all or non-excluded apps only).

I just did some comparison with System Panel, running the UI looking at apps list without touching anything:

CPU load was at 3-10% while running PMW

and 3-15% while running System Panel

note that system panel refreshes CPU more often so it "seemed" at first to consume less. Both apps were showing all 27 apps running at the time.

I hope some users will report their findings too :) It will be less biaised ;)
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Analyzing both battery and cpu together

Yes, I've been looking into this, but haven't found an elegant solution that does not consume anything... but now that you ask... just got some ideas ;)

Though to have a clear picture it actually requires measuring or estimating how much various components are consuming (screen, wifi, gps, bluetooth, etc...).

Or knowing how much the CPU is actually consuming based on load and frequency. But each CPU is different...
[Android Apps and Games] DirkStorck:
I have installed the free version but I don't see any widgets in my widget list. Besides that it looks like a great app to find out which apps are using most cpu :)
[Android Apps and Games] Vinsane:
Very nice app.

The only issue I have is all.the info inside the widget is "crushed" together.

It looks like it could use some more room to be able to see all the info clearer.

I tried it set as the following:

cpu freq

Icon

Process

I cant even see the process info on the bottom.

Can you make it to where there is an option for only 2 info spots instead of 3? Thst way...it doesn't use as much space inside the widget.

Keep up the great work!
[Android Apps and Games] britoso:
Whoa, very nice!
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Thanks for posting the issue here so I have an opportunity to help/reply.

That's quite odd and might be related to installation... Do you have an app that forces install on SD card by any chance?

Or do you use app2ext or app2sd+ and removed the SD card at some point?

Android up-to 2.2.1 (not sure about 2.3 yet) have issues moving widget app to SD card, such widgets will completely vanish until the home screen is restarted, which often mean reboot, but then depending on the boot sequence it will not appear again.

Maybe that's what's going on here?
[Android Apps and Games] DirkStorck:
Hi :) I am using LeeDroid 2.3d with normal app2sd and I dont use an app to force install location.

I have deinstalled and installed it again....and tada....the widget is here :D
[Android Apps and Games] imakul8:
I've replaced System Panel with this. It's just easier for me to understand and SP seem to use alot of power itself. One question about the auto-kill feature when display turns off...How can I be sure that it's killing tasks. Every time I quickly enter into the PWM(with the screen having been off) to see if apps are restarting, they seem to have never stopped. I can't imagine all would be up and running so fast. I understand that some apps will restart themselves.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Well, actually the auto-kill is done when widget is refreshed, thus only when screen is on! I'm working on a new auto-kill that will be scheduled independently for the next update.

Stay tuned :)

I was very reluctant to implement such feature as it will consume just to kill unwanted processes, which will be restarted sooner or later.

But it's requested many times so it will be in next update!
[Android Apps and Games] imakul8:
Yeah, I know some will restart, but it will still kill the one's that don't restart. I only want it to kill once when the screen goes off, not over-and-over at intervals while the screen is off. That way, it won't have to keep consuming energy to kill restarted apps. I won't use the auto-kill during refresh. I would just use kill all whenever I need it. Anyway, look forward to the improvements.:)
[Android Apps and Games] schnowdapowda:
Just wanted to say.. great job with this. Exactly what I've been looking for.

cd's or tapes?
[Android Apps and Games] zeppelinrox:
Well, I'm too lazy to quantify it, but I'm having a look with Super Task Manager and the Dialer, news and weather (genie) widget and android keyboard (which are all doing nothing lol) are using more juice than process monitor widget - which I have set to refresh every 30 seconds...

Battery monitor widget uses a bit less than process monitor widget but what's interesting is that Battery Diviner, which I recently installed, uses up more juice than either of them.

So I'd say it's a pretty small footprint, especially when you consider all the data that it's watching...

Did you ever click the Logs button? It's crazy... cool I mean ;)

Hey I just noticed today that it has a built in terminal... :cool:
[Android Apps and Games] zman519:
HI ccounotte

I really like this app its some thing android really needed. I do have one small thing to ask.

When you tap on one of the Bar grapfs Memory, Internal and go into the part that shows you the pie chart the "Memory" (RAM) and the "internal" have identical texts/wording So theirs noway of telling what data your really viewing.

Could you add "RAM" like this "CHIP_icon Memory RAM Details" that way its ez to see what you viewing. And or Maybe ad it to the line right above it "Process Monitor - Memory-RAM"

Just an idea i think that will help a lot of people;) To me if i have the pie chart open and look back at it quickly i find myself adding the two numbers in the bar graph to see if the sum = the ram in my phone or the internal flash.