yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mattfmartin:
Another thing I like about it is,you can charge with the phone off.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] diesburg:
Yea, I like off charging also... when I go to bed, I wanna go to bed and not be bothered with calls, text or anything, I just wanna sleep..... so I like to sharge my phone while it's off.... it has to charge faster while being off because it's not pulling any power for the phone.... so I feel like I will have a better, fuller charge in the morning if it were turned off while charging.....
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mattfmartin:
I've heard people say that there are a few bugs that cedesmith needs to work out. I wonder what those bugs are that are left? Would be nice if there was a bug tracker.

Also should Cedesmith should update the title to the latest version, so people know there has been further development.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] diesburg:
First, in my last post, I quoted him in saying he will not provide any support as he has not the time nor patience for it..(although he has provided a lot of support from what I can see)... so don't expect anything... and for the bugs.....anything needing to be fixed is very small things that you wouldn't even notice being a normal android user........ the only thing stopping this from being used as far as I know is support for all roms..... mainly because of the kernel support from what I read...... which we have already seen more support for more roms within days and I'm sure we will see more roms supporting cLK in the next few days...... but I have tried ALL roms for the hd2.... CM7 roms are the best by far IMO...... and typhoons is the first to be publicly supported I think........If it's sense you want, I have a fancy widget APK that has been modified to look exactly like the sense clock......
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mattfmartin:
Appreciate it, but I use super clock from beautiful widget. I can't stand anything that looks like sense anymore;p
[HD2 Android NAND Development] 2000impreza:
I agree in that support has been fairly good for cLK bootloader. Most if not all of the major issues have been ironed out. cedesmith pointed out cLK doesn't currently support tethering in a recent post. So this may be a issue for some users. Personally I never tether so cLK works great for me.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] diesburg:
Sense look is awesome!!!! lol...... but the affects of sense running aren't so awesome.... it slows the whole system down.,... thats why IMO, a sense clock look alike is way better..... its just one widget running rather than the whole sense system running..... along with cyanogenmod, a sense look alike is awesome...... I will post screenshots of my system.....I really like it with the sense clock clone and the customizations possible with cyanogenmod......and its all legal!....lol (technically sense roms are not legal although for some dumbass reason they are allowed on XDA..... when GPL violations are not allowed on XDA......its stupid, XDA allows to break some laws but not all of them....is XDA paying HTC!?!?!?!?) Come on XDA, comply by the law fully or not at all!!!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] diesburg:
I never have and probably never will use tethering... so that's an issue that will never bother me.....
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arif-ali:
usb tethering

USB tethering works without any problems for me,

But I guess I am using froyo and not gingerbread, and that's could be the difference
[HD2 Android NAND Development] cedesmith:
i was talking about native teetering in TyphooN CM7 (witch required multiport module in kernel and ppp in interfaces list of regular expressions in CM7).

android-wifi-tether and android-wired-tether linked in TyphooN thread and tethering in sense roms are expected to work (tho not tested by me yet)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] M..N:
Hmm i still have problems with ppp dying and getting stuck, i might try a reflash later to see if the problems are solved.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dandiest:
Hi cedesmith,

always admire your work, think I will create a build for cLK.

btw, can have the quick reboot in cLK? then it will be wonderful.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jhr5474:
Thank god! Another builder!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Derek0228:
I may jump the wagon today :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Unconn:
Usage report so far:

Loaded 1.3.1

Flashed Recovery

Restored CW backup

Flashed kernel

booted up, seemed fine, rebooted still seemed fine.

FYI for all those that think they are seeing huge battery drains, please do a couple of full charge discharges before reporting. Or even better, make sure your phone is fully charged when you flash your ROM.

Liking it so far. I never got 1.1 to work. 1.3.1 was very easy (though I am wondering if the standard partition layout should have a cache partition).
[HD2 Android NAND Development] M..N:
I have a few questions, how is the battery life and does the phone heat up like it used on sd.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] diesburg:
Battery is great for me so far, definitely not worse than if using magldr. And I have never experienced excessive heat.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mattfmartin:
Same here battery is the same for me as it was in magldr. Which was very good
[HD2 Android NAND Development] M..N:
Thats good to hear, any problems with ppp, i had problems but its seems to be stable for now.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mattfmartin:
Just as stable as rmnet. Then again,i never did have a problem with ppp going all the way back to SD days.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] M..N:
Yeah i had lots of problems but a reflash just now seems to have made it stable, no problems for the last half hour.

EDIT : also would using clockwork rom manger features such as flash recovery boot in to recovery etc work?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] crawlingcity:
Random comment,i had 2 drops on rmnet for the first time. And I mean a crash! Oh well
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mattfmartin:
Cedesmith said he's working on that
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jhr5474:
Confirmed rom manager doesn't work to reboot recovery but if he said he's wotlrking on it it is pretty much a done deal.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] M..N:
Well thought my pop issues went but they are back again was working well for 2 hours then lost connection and it for stuck
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jhr5474:
Could somebody tell me what I need to do to a magldr rom to make it work WITH cLK? I have compared the files and I just can't find the difference. I wish there was an auto convertor to do it. There are so many amazing rims with magldr that I would like to flash but I can't figure out how to convert.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jhr5474:
Oops!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Derek0228:
i only found the nbh for clk on the folder, can someone tell me if i can use a customruu.exe to flash it, or i need to put it on my SD card?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jhr5474:
Are you talking about to install cLK? or a rom? Yesterday when I first took the plunge I used a custom ruu to flash the nbh for cLK 1.1 and then I found a link I think on post 3 to a guide that has everything needed to get you started with typhoon.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Derek0228:
I meant clk, but yeah i flashed with a customruu and it worked, then flashed recovery, and now flashing a rom :D

Thank you Cedesmith.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jhr5474:
I

just downloaded a few of the kernels you zipped and was wondering, The UD rom that was released last night has a wifi problem it just scans and finds nothing. Do you think this will fix it? It is UD 3.0.1
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Derek0228:
maybe, there's no harm in trying.

BTW: anyone had this problem: I successfully installed clk, flashed cwm, and flashed a rom, but after a reboot, my phone would not longer boot, it was stuck on the first bootscreen, the one that you flash like a rom, not the android bootscreen. For a moment i thought my phone was bricked, but i managed to enter spl and flashed magldr back. Maybe a bad download? I'll try again.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jhr5474:
Sounds

like a bad download to me. did you do 1.3? mine went well not sure why it would stick on that.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arif-ali:
check this post in this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11835637&postcount=269
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Derek0228:
It seems GL_Core v9 Kernel doesn't really support CLK. After thorough testing, after flashing GL_Core is when my phone doesn't boot. :(

If someone could recompile this kernel with the necessary patch, g.lewarne said he had patched it but it didn't seem to work. I ask because it's the best kernel around. Especially the UV one, as it gives me a lot of battery life.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] 2000impreza:
Letama ril wrapper

I managed to get 3g data to hang by going into a weak signal area (deep basement with cement walls). I did this intentionally just to test PPP stability. The ril wrapper(v0.7) Letama modified to stabilize PPP worked fairly well in the past. I pushed the wrapper replacing the original used in the rom. I'll test this again tomorrow to see if it makes any difference. Not sure if Tyween's rom has this wrapper already in place.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=824413
[HD2 Android NAND Development] seadersn:
read the first posts of cedesmith: kernels need to be patched in order to work correctly with cLK. if you want to get this particular kernel running, you have to apply the patches to the kernel of your choice and compile it :) or ask the kernel programmer if he could supply a "cLK version" :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] tyween:
Yup.. that is already included.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] takumibox:
ppp disconnect sometime, anyone have a solution?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] seadersn:
cLK CWM 3.0.1.9

ok, after testing this out i decided to announce this one (attached, see below):

- recovery 3.0.1.9

- applied latest patches from March 17 '11

- edited confirmation menu to show only "yes / no" (not 937x no / 1x yes as before)

- included "sd-ext fix"

- renamed title to show "cLK 1.3.3 ClockworkMod Recovery v3.0.1.9"

should work just fine :)

maybe someone could give some feedback about this recovery?

greetings ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arif-ali:
The recovery works without any problems, I like the idea with, only one NO and one Yes, the other method was annoying

thanks
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Novembre5:
I also just flashed the new recovery and it works great. I think this recovery version should be updated in the thrid post.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bigbadmoshe:
how would i overwrite the old recovery without losing anything. do i have to reflash?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Novembre5:
You can overwrite without fear of losing any data. I just did a couple hours ago and all data is still there. It will just update CWM. To update you just need to power phone off, power phone back on and hold back key to enter fastboot mode, and then fastboot flash recovery, and then fastboot reboot.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] seadersn:
you can do a "fastboot erase recovery" before, just to make sure :D

this can be done with every partition, btw.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bigbadmoshe:
thanks worked like a charm :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bigbadmoshe:
how would you know if this would work HyperDroid-CM7-v1.0 :confused:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Novembre5:
You would have to patch the kernel that comes with the rom, you can use one of the kernels provided in post #3, or you can ask the rom dev if he can add support for cLK.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bigbadmoshe:
thanks for the reply

knew about the kernel but was wandering if its rom specific or kernel specific. being that he only has 2 roms posted. and does his kernel update overwrite the intirid files.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dbshane:
I flashed CLK, recovery 3.0.0.6 and MIUI NAND ROM (2.2 froyo), but I can't make wifi working. I have tried the three kernals "ppp and rafpigna kernel update", "ppp and tytung kernel update", and "clk_wifi_ud3_fix", but no one works. So I am wondering are these kernals just for CM7 or gingerbread? Thanks
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Dasf77:
The kernels provided in post#3 wont work. Get stuck in obtaining IP Address.

Would like to now how to patch the kernel. Will try to find out.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dbshane:
I managed to make wifi working using aa 0.3 kernal, try this http://www.multiupload.com/A3MQLKPBOE
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dharvey4651:
Hate to be the one to throw this thread off-topic but as much as I'd love to use the CLK, I've got a real good thing going with MAGLDR and I was wondering how one could go about making this compatible with that?

EDIT:: Or knowing how to edit the current CWM 3.0.0.5 Recovery to have just Yes/No would be amazing too.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] tytung:
Hi, Everyone,

If I build a kernel with the cLK patches but let the RMNET compile into the kernel (CONFIG_MSM_RMNET=y), not compile as a module (CONFIG_MSM_RMNET=m), does it still work with PPP?

If you are using any cLK enabled ROMs, please download this test kernel and test it for me.

Thanks in advance.

P.S.: I have no enough free time to try this cLK bootloader because I'm still developing my new ROM for my NexusHD2 users.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] letama:
Hi tytung,

Well, yes, it will work if rmnet_mode is not set on lib_wrapper line. However, the activity arrows won't blink as android will check rmnet interface activity even if it's not up.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] tytung:
Thanks.

It's very clear now. :)

That's why I don't see a RMNET module in the "ppp and tytung kernel update" (released by others) in the post #3.

OK. I will build RMNET as a kernel module and let the kernel work correctly with MAGLDR and cLK at the same time since cLK cannot support RMNET so far.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bigbadmoshe:
Tytung in reply to you saying a clk enabled rom. Do roms have to support clk. Or is it the kernel that matters.

I am asking bc I tried both hyperdroid

Versions with rafs kernel and got no internet.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Unconn:
I know that this is down to PPP and the lack of a RMNET driver in the boot loader, but.... my mobile data drops/locks when it goes into a low/no reception area and never connects again. It is like going back to the HARET and SD days as far a the Data connection locking up. I can correct it by going into airplane mode and back out, but what a PITA. If this continues to be a problem might have to go back to MAGDLR and only come back to cLK to help with testing. Having a constant connection is pretty important to me.

BTW:

radio: 15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14

kernel: 2.6.32.15-gb8d5b80-dirty cedesmith@phonix #2

Mod: CyanogenMod-7-03072011-NIGHTLY-Desire[Typhoon_v2.5.4]
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Unconn:
I think you should start your own thread. The lack of 'no, no, no...' is worth it alone.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dharvey4651:
Works great with MAGLDR.

A warning to all - If you decide to backup your current ROM with CWM v3.0.0.5 and then restore it with CWM v3.0.1.4, you will get failed boot. You need to install the ROM fresh after updating CWM.

EDIT:: It does seem however, that you can restore data without an issue so if you reinstall the same ROM you had before and then restore data you should end up right where you left off.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dbshane:
Hi tytung,

It seems that after flashing this kernel using CWM, I coundn't boot into system, and the initrd.gz wasn't even loaded. Could you upload a boot.img instead of zimage? Thank you in advance.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bigbadmoshe:
How did you get it to work I tried to flash like I flash other recovery bit just got errors and would not flash.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Novembre5:
Make sure you rename it to recovery-raw and then overwrite the default file. Then flash like normal.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] seadersn:
hm, k, i will open a new thread for recovery only, as this is usable for cLK AND magldr. the recovery will be updated every 2-4 weeks, and so staying actual.

dharvey, i recovered this, too. i will mention this in the thread, too.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] karendar:
I can't wait to try cLK... But the CWM version kinda scares me, I have too many nandroid backups... So if I can't use them anymore, I'd be afraid to update. ;)

All cLK needs is rmnet support, I wonder if cotulla is willing to help out..?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sp33dy_gtx:
Mda , let's talk... everybody has is point I want a sneackers and desire z nand build , maybe someone wants something from mc'donalds. :|
[HD2 Android NAND Development] luffyp:
Maybe people could stop asking/complaining until he posts more info?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] simax:
and there we can see posting "members" offtopics... its funny how somebody minds unrelated posts and then adds exactly the same lol

and yes i just did the same
[HD2 Android NAND Development] cedesmith:
It is a replacement for magldr.

What does extra from magldr ? NOTHING

Is it better then magldr ? NO

Should you use it ? PROBABLY NOT

I started working on it because i kept waiting for magldr and out of curiosity. Now that it works it would be a pity to just rust some ware on my hard drive.

Benefits:

- open source ( someone else could implement WiFi and BT mac reading for example )

- open source

- more open source :)

- works with android's fastboot

- portable to other WinCe devices
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Ultimaex:
Fastboot sounds good :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Unconn:
Put this in the first post. (Read this with any inflextion you like. I prefer the one that makes it sound like an order.) :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Beretta93:
Fastboot. :love:

And what about 24mb HSPL issue? Can you permabrick your phone with this loader?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] shree.cse:
Sounds good. I will try this for sure! For fast loading of Android

Thank you!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vkfkbr:
with that loader is it possible is it possible to charge my phone when phone turned off? when i plug my charger, red light turns on and phone never boots. i have to remove battery to turn on phone. :(

hd2 / 512
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sp33dy_gtx:
Tank you and fEcilitari :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Frostslayer:
Does CLK load any other kernels, like WinCE, or just the Linux kernel?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Strepsils:
Nice job! Your work very important for our community. Keep on
[HD2 Android NAND Development] simax:
if its like magldr, then theres still battery charging issue while off isnt it?

edit:

please comment on that and put it in your first posts faq, since everyone has this issue with magldr
[HD2 Android NAND Development] *aerox90:
Make your super fast hd sd build fit on it and ill give it a go :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] radiance26:
will WP7 be compatible with this bootloader (in the future) ?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dena994:
thanks for the hard work!!!:)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vista1984:
thanks for the hard work.

let's be open minded, and make the hd2 even better
[HD2 Android NAND Development] The-Kevster:
Recovery partition support! Fantastic!!!

I think we'll be waiting a while before magldr supports a native recovery image.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ata.music:
Ma bucur ca sunt si developeri romani pe acest forum! :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dadme:
Port it to Toshiba TG01. Worth a chance.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dbshane:
From irclog, I don't think Cotulla is willing to help. But I believe this will be solved sooner or later.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] diesburg:
HA!. Why would cotulla not help? because cLK will only hurt the popularity of his closed source/shouldn't even be allowed on XDA bootloader ? Loved having magldr until cLK came along but now that cLK is here, a closed source bootloader does no one any good over an open source one in my opinion.... cedesmith could probably easily beat DFT in the race to getting an android bootloader on rhodium/topaz devices..... which DFT just recently announced they would be doing..... that's a whole team vs one person....lol... the more I read about things that cotulla and DFT are NOT willing to help with, the more I wanna stay away from their work.....from what I can see, they only want to help their work, no one elses.... look at the XDA rules..... what they are doing only working on their closed source software and not helping anyone is everything against XDA......
[HD2 Android NAND Development] FrAsErTaG:
looking forward to testing this with Hyperdroid GBX.

many thanks
[HD2 Android NAND Development] cedesmith:
my 2 cents

Unfortunately i don't have a answer to that. At 1 point he said on irc that he may port LK on HD2 and later we talked and he seamed to consider helping.

I don't think is because of popularity. If is that i will gladly change the name to reflect his contribution to c2LK (cedesmith+cotulla Little Kernel Bootloader) or something else.

I will even put his donate button on main post if that is what is about.

It may be DFT decision or whatever. Whatever the reasons is it his/their(DFT) work and can do anything with it. I am glad they shared it.

What i don't understated is other developers who said we don't need another bootloader. Nobody forces them to use it or contribute or to use it.

And I DO NEED IT, it allows me to add things that magldr don't has yet (like offcharging, keep htc splash at boot, reboot to recovery) . Probably some of these will be implemented in magldr to as they are no big deal once kernel is changed, but one can not test changes in kernel without bootloader (so is a vicious circle).

Another fact to consider is that clk sources will be here long after cotulla, you and me will be on S2, atrix, 2X or anything else ( rant: dan1j3l vogue initrd sounds familiar ?? ).

Also this could be a starting point for other devices in the future and even help with locked android bootoaders ( if they don't verify kernel signature one could load lk instead of kernel then do whatever they want ).

What I DON'T NEED is rmnet, ppp work great for me, i did not had 1 disconnect (even tho i have 0-2 bars in home) and is faster then rmnet.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] tytung:
My question has been answered by Letama.

So you don't need to test it.

Thanks.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] icsulescu:
cedesmith,

First I want to thank you for your work and second what can I say I was trying to use Magldr for some time and I ended with 1EFATAL HIT 1 error last night i was loaded cLK and my phone is running well since then.

All the best, keep it up,

Regards,

Me

P.S Poate ne intalnim la o bere intr-o zi :D o meriti din plin
[HD2 Android NAND Development] g30rg10u:
cedesmith, could you please make cLK partition layout parameterized?

It is quite annoying to be strict on 150mb or 300mb.. most of my builds are around 200MB.. if the system size could be edited whenever we flash one, then it would be much more efficient.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Life Engineer:
Sorry to interrupt you pro guys! :)

Excuse me for my ignorance, but till now i didn't understand what is causing this drops/locks of mobile signal?!? I have this problem too, and it's critical to me too, so i want to know how to solve, if it can be!

Everything is in my sig! Thanks in advance!

Thanks
[HD2 Android NAND Development] francescozanghetta:
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Your job is great!!! ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mattfmartin:
You can edit the flash.cfg file yourself to make it whatever partition size your want.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] seadersn:
there isn't a flash.cfg file...? one needs to change Android.mk and init.c files to apply the layout wanted and then compile it.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] g30rg10u:
the values are hardcoded in the binary. This is what i am asking cedesmith to do. I hope that its no real trouble to do so.

This will allow more builds to work on cLK bootloader. Mine is one. other than CM builds there are the Sense builds from Desire and Desire HD which size varies.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mattfmartin:
Duh, my bad I was thinking of the old way
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Dasf77:
Thanks . Will try it. Is it working good for you?