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[Desire HD Themes and Apps] cubitusclaudius:
Hello,

Why did nobody talk about iGo myWay?

For me the most important is map quality. I mean, lack of secondary roads or small streets.

I have tested Locations, iGo, Sygic and copilot. In Switzerland and France, copilot has very bad maps, a lot of streets missing. Locations has also incomplete maps. Sygic has good maps and iGo the most complete.

Second quality is the ease of reading :

Sygic Aura is the best (a little like TomTom on windows) . Important informations on one glance.

igo has a very big keyboard. it can be useful.

Betelgeuse74, I have Sigic Aura 2.1 and a lot of bugs has been corrected. You can program a very complicated itinerary. the problem is how to save it if you want to use it later : you have to use a file manager and save a file called "itinerar.dat" which is destroyed each time you create a new itinerary (I spoke about it in the other thread : here

it is very useful for me as biker. I never take highways. I organize complicated itineraries including beautiful sceneries.

I'm sure it must be possible to do the same with iGo, as I have not yet investigated the subject.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] betelgeuse74:
Thanks for your input.

iGo is unfortunately not available in Android Market in Norway, so I have not been able to test.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] dazultra2000:
I'd like to try it too, but I can't see it in Market either...
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Ethania:
I have tried Sygic Aura which I think has too low resolution in menus. The bad integration with contacts is pretty bad as well. Navigate to picture seamed nice, but didn’t work.

Navigon is what I’m using right now. Good contact integration is the best feature.

But I don’t like the low resolution, blurred maps and that I cant pinch-to-zoom.

(3.5.2 seems ti fix a few low resolution icons.)

CoPilot looks really nice and has nice UI. The minus here is that I cant change UI colour. RED/BLUE doesn’t feel right. Id like a black or a more "designish" colour. Seems
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] betelgeuse74:
Used Sygic as a test today on my way to work, and decided to drive the route it suggested.

I have configured it to use the quickest route, but I ended up using double the time compared to the route Navigon recommends.

Sygic gets me where I want to go, and in the end that is what's important. Hopefully future releases will improve route calculation, because this is my only real complaint with Sygic.

Navigon is still my favourite, because in spite of lacking a few features, it is very solid and easy to use, and I agree with contact integration. Also I just love the Google Search integration. Yesterday I searched for a store I was going to, and it lead me right there, with no detours on the way (yeah, I knew where I was going :) )
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] dazultra2000:
So far it's seeming like Aura would be everyone's top choice if it wasn't for it's utterly obscure route-planning!

Hopefully someone from Sygic is paying attention and they can get it sorted!
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] cubitusclaudius:
...and the delay to choose contacts . about 45 sec. for 900 contacts... (it is instant with Google Maps!)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] cubitusclaudius:
...and some small streets missing (comparting with iGo maps)...
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] mbernstein:
Anyone tried the new Sygic 3.0? Did it improve on route calculation?

Thanks.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] cubitusclaudius:
Sygic doesn't work anymore with Gingerbread update on DHD! it's a shame
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] nissensp:
On my Desire Z (Android 2.2, Froyo) it runs well. Actually, it runs better then ever.

But I haven't been able to use the navigation to Contacts, but that's because I have a lot of contacts, and I'm not patient enough to wait each to until the list is filled with the contacts.

In my point of view, Sygic lacks a few features:

- import/export POI (for instance kml, csv or ov2 file)

- choose the types of road (on a holiday I prefer to avoid all highways, so explore the countryside). Indeed, with the new version it's quite easy to avoid 1 highway, but in some cases it will guide you to another highway.

- faster contact browsing

- maybe add a feature to allow "touristic" driving, so only secundary roads (no highways) are selected.

- maybe propose several calculated routes to choose from (like google maps on the PC does).

Patrick
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] dazultra2000:
The trial for 3.0 runs on my DHD with all the details in my Sig...

Route planning is better, but still not right. Still does some funny things for no raisin
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] betelgeuse74:
A little information to avoid confusion:

RCMix uses a different framework since it is based on a Kingdom ROM Port.

ROMs build on the official release for Desire HD, like Android Revolution and LeeDrOiD (to name the ones that I have tested) does not work.

According to Sygic this is a known issue, and they are working on a new update that will fix this issue.

(Information can be found on Sygic's website.)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] borneanheadhunter:
tried PAPAGO X5? not bad for android phones.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] dalanik:
Just my opinion... I have a lot of experience in Navi on win CE (PNA) and thought of dumping my good old moov for Desire HD but it seems Android is missing good navigation software....

Copilot can't "get through" only on the 1st impression. I just installed it, played 5 minutes and it went to trash. Oh my god, whoever designed such ugly and impractical interface. It is even worse than Garmin and TomTom. It can have best maps and routing in the world, but no sane person would stand that awful interface.

iGo which has best maps (because you can combine your own, depending on what you need) is really awful on Android. It is even more simple than iGo Amigo on WinCE. And it is really slow. Not to mention that the interface sux, it doesn't follow Android conventions, and is not in the "spirit" of Android. You can tell it was PORTED from other platform. I keep it just because I know maps are good and routing is excellent, but really dislike using it.

NDrive is same story. While the interface was OK on WinCE, it sux on droid. Not to mention that it doesn't know how to scale properly to DHD's resolution so the texts and button texts are so small that no one can read it unless you put the phone 10cm in front of your face.

Navigon I didn't try. It is pain to install, but this might be my last option.

Finaly, the only one which looks like something is Sygic. Really good interface, blazingly fast, really cool... only in my case not worth much since maps for balkans are main roads only, but if you don't need these countries, it might work for you.

Waiting for iGo Primo on Android.... :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] dlads:
Sorry but out of all the sat navs, co pilot is easily the best, all you have to do is set up your routing profiles and your set, their customer service is the only thing which is lacking, although they do answer you they always ask you to reply in the same email and they just don't call you, can be annoying.

Google maps is 2nd and anything else beyond that is simply a headache.

Paid 25 quid for co pilot and all the updates they've made have been spot on, if you can't use this app then you certainly shouldn't be driving because you must be a dunce, easy and intuitive, just set up the route profiles and your golden.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Szczepanik:
Locus online/offline map viewer

You may want to also look at [APP] Locus online/offline map viewer:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=907430

Early review written by TheRomMistress and published on XDA-Developers.com.

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/locus-map-viewer-for-online-and-offline-use/

Locus is worth keeping an eye on as there is lots of development including offline vector maps.

Also note “Download map area” added to Labs in Google Maps for Android.

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/download-map-area-added-to-labs-in.html?m=1

Question: by chance does anyone know if by any miracle will my expensive Tom Tom Windows Mobile maps work with Sygic Navigation on Android (HTC HD2 running Desire ROM) ?

Cheers

Tom
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Daz555:
I have tried a couple and I think I'll be sticking with Google Nav until the useless fecks at TomTom pull their fingers out of their backside and get a move on with bringing it to Android.

What the hell are they playing at? I had TomTom on my Nokia 7610 back in 2004 - back in the days when TomTom were innovators I guess.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Software Guru:
I have both iGo and Co Pilot installed on my DHD and I prefer Co Pilot, easy to use and the interface IMO is uncomplicated
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hamdir:
seems both those phones will be a variation of the desire HD

however seems htc is intending to ruin it all for me

i read somewhere the inspire specs sheet lists SLCD for the display :mad: is this confirmed anywhere?

either way beautiful metalic phones from HTC, i've been using the androi-ed HD2 for the past few days (temporarily) going back to my DHD feels like a return to luxury
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hamdir:
what do you think guys? are we paying the price of having it earlier?

http://androidandme.com/2011/01/carriers/verizon/htc-and-verizon-announce-the-lte-4g-enabled-htc-thunderbolt/

is this SLCD or BS? i think it is :mad: i can live with that as long as HTC doesn't screw us and release an SLCD euro edition

thunderbolt has 8GB internal + 32GB and 1400mah battery! (gotta love US carriers) http://www.htc.com/us/products/thunderbolt-verizon#tech-specs

inpsire has 4GB internal everything else the same as ours, i don't know about SLCD http://www.htc.com/us/products/inspire-att#tech-specs
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sengork:
I wonder how much they'll cost outright in comparison to the DHD. It's interesting to see they've ditched the SIM cover mechanism on the Thunderbolt and moved the USB port sideways. Also it seems a bit thicker, which is probably how they got a larger capacity battery fitted (judging by the pics alone)... Front camera is a major difference on it. Display wise I'm not sure, how would SLCD differ to whatever DHD has. My main concern with display on the DHD is poor visibility under sunlight (would SLCD improve on that?).

As to the Inspire vs DHD, they seem very similar in all aspects:

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3706&idPhone2=3468

I'm happy with my DHD for the most part because I went from a Nokia E71 which was quite an upgrade for me... ;)

Edit: 1 more link http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2598&id2=2657
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sengork:
By the way what are the odds of HTC not updating DHD frequently as a result of needing to focus on these new models?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] olivierlee:
It sure does look like SLCD to me. And concerning updates, HTC Europe is responsible for the updates in Europe, while their US counterpart are reponsible for the US. I doubt they'll leave us behind considering the DHD is their flagship device in Europe. Have a look at the original Desire, it was the first HTC device to receive Froyo if my memory serves me well (could be the EVO beat it by a matter of days) and is still receiving updates (last one was a couple of weeks ago).
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjehan:
My next phone will be the Motorola Atrix. Period !
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deadcookie:
i don't get this -.-

this phone looks just awesome! SLCD, Simcard cover on the side , battery,front cam .. wtf? i don't get why htc does this .. i would have gladly waited for 2-3 months to buy a phone like this .. i don't know how you guys feel but i really think we bought some kind of defective overprized prototype phone :(
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sengork:
Call us guinea pigs ;)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ivolol:
The DHD is SLCD also, AFAIK?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deadcookie:
yeah but the colors seem to be deeper .. almost like SAmoled
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] olivierlee:
These phones are us only and won't be released in Europe. The Thunderbolt is CDMA only and can only be used in tthe US. The Inspire is just a DHD with a 4G radio.

So the DHD is still the best phone that can be bought and used properly anywhere except the US.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hamdir:
the DHD is not SLCD its clear by now, it has no ips

i think the inspire has the same screen as ours while the thunderbolt has SLCD

qualities of SLCD over ours: IPS view angles, deeper saturation and some digital treatment (like sharpening, which i don't like)

its not a big difference its like the desire classic vs ours

but yes the thunderbolt is the fancier edition (chassis, battery and slightly smaller if thicker) sadly it wont work if imported plus who wants a Verizon logo on his phone :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattbe213:
Nope, the Inspire will in-fact have super LCD. Check it out on at&t's website. Says so right in the tech specs.

Matt
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
they have photoshop at htc hq too you know :rolleyes:
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CitizenLee:
Ah, new model envy... the curse of all gadget lovers! :D

You think these are impressive? Wait until Mobile World Congress next month and then drool over 2GHz and dual-core Android phones.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ErOR22:
I really see no point in upgrading to this if you own a DHD, the upgrade would be minimal.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattbe213:
I def. don't want a Verizon logo on my phone. AT&T is just right for me!:D

Matt
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondula:
Hey just wondering would there be any advantage to buying the unlocked Telus version of the DHD over the AT&T Inspire other than carier bloatware. I take it they are basically the same but the Inspire has 4GB ram while the Telus DHD has the standard 1.5GB ram? I've heard AT&T locks out the side loading of apps on their android phones and would charge extra for the mobile hotspot feature. I'm on AT&T with an unlocked desire right now and don't have to pay extra for the mobile hotspot. Just wondering if you guys think the unlocked Telus DHD would be a better choice than the Inspire.

Thanks
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattbe213:
I would go with the AT&T version. The Inspire is going to have better hardware, and 4G capabilities. (Delivered by HSPA+ w/ enhanced backhaul). As for AT&T locking out the sideloading of apps on their devices, chances are it will happen with the Inspire, but if good developers get their hands on the Inspire, we may be able to use ADB to root it, which will fix that sideloading issue.

Matt
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tolis626:
One thing:The DHD does have S-LCD,htc themselves have said that(don't remember where though).
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattbe213:
True, but (not sure if you know this) if you looked, the Inspire 4G, like the Thunderbolt, has S-LCD.

Matt
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondula:
I read somewhere the Telus DHD would support HSPA+ as well, does anyone know if this is true?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattbe213:
I highly doubt this. Not saying your wrong, but I need to see a source on this one.

Again, if your on AT&T/going to AT&T for a phone, get the Inspire 4G!!! People make it way harder than it really is. Inspire 4G is the way to go because it is the AT&T version of the Thunderbolt. Same hardware (aside from the Verizon stuff), same software, same phone. And both phones are running the latest version of HTC Sense UI, so that is also a major plus!

Matt
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndreaCristiano:
Taylor from Android and ME says that sideloading apps is a go on the Inspire!!!!
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] overshadowss:
First of all you need the HTC Driver Vista&Win7

Attachment below

How do I install the driver ?

Droid Explorer

Link

Features : Full control for Root (from PC) and you ll be able to install-uninstall -backup applications from PC and also have many futures like Console (much easier than terminal emulator or adb) and Screencast and many.

Not all functions working ! but the most important are ok

Android commander

Features : you can explore Root files and manage apps plus console and more...

Attachment below

Linux Reader

Features : for quick access to android file systems and allows you to browse Ext2/Ext3 Linux file systems and extract files from there.

Attachment below

My Phone Explorer

Features : This software has many good futures, but the most important is the full synchronization with Outlook (contacts - notes - calender -etc) so no need for HTC Sync if you already don't like the NAND sense builds ;)

required : to download the client from market which is needed for phone

Attachment below

HTC Sync

Link

Features : Sync phone with Outlook and many powerful futures (only NAND sense builds )

Required : a HTC sense build

Panasonic SD Card Formatter:

Features : another way for formatting your SD card (especially if you got a damaged SD card problem)

Required : SD card :D

Attachment below

RTL Auto-Patcher

Thread Link

Features : this great patch is for right to left languages, its fix the major problem with Right-To-Left alignment in android. (its still beta and on test but it worked for me)

Required : Microsoft .Net Framework 4

I won't attach the software cuz its better to join the original thread for future updates.

MiniTool Partition Wizard

Features : Partition your SD card ext2 ext3 (for ext4 you can use another softwares available, but be sure that ext4 not fully recommended for all ROMs and I prefer to format as ext3 because the results are very good)

Attachment below

If you found these informations useful ! just hit the thanks button :)

Thanks for suggesting new softwares

as I m flashing lots of ROMs for testing ... I always recommend the best Android NAND builds for HD2.. check my signature.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] dddrko:
Android Commander (http://http://androidcommander.com/)
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] maff1989:
Umm, well Droid Explorer has been around since the SD days bro, and well before Android was ported to the HD2.. nice effort but this is kinda irrelevant.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] overshadowss:
Usful android applications

usful Android applications

the main target here is to have the most needed applications as a start to join Android :D all applications are FREE and available at Market.

Soon :)
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] HectiQ:
thanks this is what I call a useful thread! this should be stickied.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] the_scotsman:
Might be moved to another forum, not sure...

but It's a great thread...I for one wasn't aware that My Phone Explorer lets you sync the phone with Outlook :)
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] overshadowss:
this is the point :D and about the moving ! no i think its in the right place.. most of HD2 users didn't like the android SD method.. but nowadays after we got droid as a NAND lots of people want to flash their devices with the new pretty firmware, so its good idea to let them have all the information they need.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] maff1989:
Yeah I guess you're right. You shot me right outta the sky lol..
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] overshadowss:
hehe :D :D
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] dddrko:
why not the HTC Sync v3 (http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=324&cat=3&dl_id=982) too?
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] isidromxz:
Good info!

Every little helps becausewe are not all pros. (me)
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] the_scotsman:
It only works with Sense builds.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] Dynamic_d:
I also think its useful. who cares if its from sd days.

I think more apps should be added. but for now. VERY useful. Cheers buddy
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] ehsan76:
Panasonic SD Card Formatter.

The most talked about SD card formatter in forum :)

Panasonic SD Card Formatter:

http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter_3/
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] massage000:
Thank you Overshadowss. Very useful thread! I'm using JDMS NAND Rom too :D
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] overshadowss:
HTC Sync require NAND sense build ..but its not bad idea to mention it :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] dwnoel:
I believe it works with NexusOne as well (for[01 JAN] NexusHD2-Froyo V1.9a NAND).
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] vikas.grover@yahoo.com:
I don't think there are many "PC" software(atleast the critical ones) that can help in any way in NAND rom installation. I feel that as a newbie the most poweful tool is the backup and restore option in recovery. Search and learn about it on xda (and google and youtube ofcourse :) )and you will appreciate the difference it makes in your quest for the best NAND rom..all the best

Press the thanks button if you want more help on the same..:D
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] overshadowss:
HTC Sync wont work with nexus :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] overshadowss:
there is nothing called BEST ROM at xda :cool: it depends about what you want and about what do you expect.. all chefs deserve BIG thanks for their HARD works

and also a BIG thanks for XDA
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] jackeyxw:
it is very useful for me, thx!
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] vikas.grover@yahoo.com:
Heheh..didn't mean anything personal dude..chillax..good things are being done by good people..nobody's denying..
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] mattfmartin:
I've been using droid explorer forever. I never knew you could sync it with sense. Learn something new everyday.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] overshadowss:
dude "my phone explorer" sync the phone with outlook for non-sense based ROMS, not droid explorer :p
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] syiay1:
And you need on top of the PC version, MyPhoneExplorer Client to be installed from Market on your phone.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] overshadowss:
Features : This application has many good futures, but the most important is the full synchronization with Outlook (contacts - notes - calender -etc) so no need for HTC Sync if you already don't like the NAND sense builds

required to download the client from market which is needed for phone
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] Voffchik:
Is there a way to synchronize my Facebook calendar and contacts without the sense?

Exactly the way i did with desire sensed builds?
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] overshadowss:
my phone explorer has many futures than HTC Sync
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] noellenchris:
Here's a simple app that I'm always recommending to people. It's a build.prop editor and it also makes backups of your build.prop to sdcard.

http://code.google.com/p/net-widgetron-propeditor/

Chris
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] Voffchik:
i don't use outlook..

i need something to sync with my facebook calendar and contacts

is there a way to do that?

thanks
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] firegun:
Great Thank you so much...
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] RayHeath:
+1! That´s why I lover the XDA Forum,:D
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] emindede:
Droid Explorer is very usefull for me.

I can change system files without restart the device.

Mostly the changed files are immediately taking the process.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] overshadowss:
yeah but it might have a bug while installing many applications .. so if you get this .. just move to android commander :)
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] overshadowss:
:)................:)
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] smartechno:
may i suggest a new software.

if you need to read ext2/3/4 partitions from windows, without the need for linux os, you can use linus-reader

its a freeware available here http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/

check it out and if its good add it to your list.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] struppi1963:
THX. Droid Explorer works fine for me!
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] overshadowss:
if u got any problem use android commander
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] wrayrb:
Great forum. Glad you included so many links and downloads. Sometimes hard to find what I need, but this was just right.