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[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Wishful thinking, dude. I bet none of that happens. MAYBE a back 12 MP camera, maybe; but I'd rather just have a really good 5-8MP one.
[EVO 4G General] 4redstars:
I've been pretty disappointed too but at the same time there could be a million reasons for this...

Sprint could be waiting for their own day without hundreds of other companies to take limelight away to announce things, they could be making back room decisions to switch to LTE (like they've stated they might, they could just have nothing good up their sleeve...

Either way they are not supposed to announce anything at CES and we have to live with it, hopefully something will come shortly after or we'll get surprised.

We are the only customers who get yearly upgrades and have pretty cheap plans as well.

Verizon is changing their policies so that upgrades are harder to come by, ATT has an overloaded network, and Tmobile is the 4th largest carrier in the country...

It isn't so bad...
[EVO 4G General] edgemaster191:
well said, couldn't agree more :-)
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
None of this means anything to me when there's only one phone all year that they offer id even consider buying.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
To those who said the Atrix was just another phone, go check out a live blog of Moto's event at CES. The thing is a damn super portable net top. It's crazy. No wonder they stuck in a gig of RAM.
[EVO 4G General] 4redstars:
that makes sense each has their own opinion but because I'm with sprint I can get another phone when the next big one is released because of the yearly upgrades where with the other carriers I don't have that option...
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
^^^^^ Dude just pwned you man.
[EVO 4G General] admorris:
Revolutionary is not just specs...it's a combination of features AND specs. A dual core processor means very little to a lot of people outside of the land of geekdom. I personally could care less if need for speed is playing at 50 fps or 55 fps. A progression of specs is nice, don't get me wrong...but it's far from revolutionary. I'm not an apple fan at all, but what they did with the first iPhone IS revolutionary...there has been nothing in the phone world that compares to that since. Hopefully there is something out there in the works.
[EVO 4G General] kwajr:
Sprint's had the monster for a while now others are just catching up and CES starts the 6th damn folks
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
That was a dumb post I made when I was raging at the fact I wasnt going to be able to get a dual core phone and Verizon is getting like 3 and at&t is getting like 2...I can wait and see what big Yellow has though.

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[EVO 4G General] anthony67:
If my memory serves correct......the Evo wasn't announced at CES.......they let loose the goodies at CTIA in March.

Just in case you're not sure, let this jog your memory......

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/23/htc-evo-4g-unveiled-by-sp_n_510571.html
[EVO 4G General] jzajzz:
ANother thing .. most of the great phones that are getting announced during CES ..are not being released right away... so STOP COMPLAINING
[EVO 4G General] dschoenike:
I'm curious to know what brand of phone everyone would like to see sprint launch as their "next big thing".? HTC again, Samsung, Motorola, LG, S.E, etc.... Personally I love what HTC and sprint have going.

dschoenike
[EVO 4G General] NewZJ:
I have liked htc ever since I had a motorola evoke qa4, htc has good hardware and timely updates, sprint is just the best am I will be with them a long time
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
He didnt own me because I dont CARE about upgrades. I bought my Evo CASH just like I did with the touch pro, just like I did with the hero, the Iphone 3gs, and just like ill do with the next phone. Damn a yearly upgrade give me the option to get a different phone if I want it. And if we have to wait all the way until March and they only unveil ONE phone again... smh.
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
Okay okay I was just being an ass, also what does smh stand for is it an acronym? :p

I wish I had that much money though, damn being a college student, I have 2 jobs but hey I have other hobbies too :)
[EVO 4G General] chazglenn3:
Shaking My Head...
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
Ahhh thank you!
[EVO 4G General] mclife:
HW wise, I think the Atrix is a major bump. The specs blow away anything on the market today.

Its the first non-iphone with a QHD screen

The screen is Super AMOLED which is the best IMO (I wish HTC phones had these screens)

It has a dual core Tegra with 1GB of RAM. This is the next generation of mobile CPUs. This is a flagship on tablets coming out in the same period. It will probably be the baseline minimum requirement for Gingerbread as well.

This kind of HW opens the doors for new usage models as well as more advanced and graphics intensive user interfaces. As a software developer, these specs get me excited about what is now possible on a smartphone!
[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
You mean Tegra 2.. Also the Super AMOLED would be better if you could do picture adjustments. Because out of the box it looks way to unnatural.
[EVO 4G General] d3x502:
More loops! .net FTW!

Sorry...//sysadmin
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Not sure what you mean by box?
[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
Sorry I mean "out of the box"
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
I literally shake my head everytime I see someone type SMH.

>_<

SWYPED from my SUPASONIC
[EVO 4G General] HondaCop:
Including the iPhone 4.

Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G General] Zori:
I'm really upset about this too. The atrix looks too amazing, and I want to use my upgrade in july so I can sell my evo for the best price when I move on. When sprint got the evo and epic, I thought things had finally changed. Apparently not, unless they turn something up at a convention in the next few months. I'm gonna be really upset if only the two most popular carriers get any dual core love! I wanna be able to play unreal engine games flawlessl. But most of all.. I want a phone with a gamepad! I think I might even take one with a single core over a dual core without one. I'll pay you sprint, just give me variety!

Sent from my EVO 4G running Evo-NonSense with the XDA app!
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
i wouldn't count on much from sprint until around may or june.

for example aside from the evo shift they will be getting:

a high end webos device & the touch pro 7.
[EVO 4G General] mitchellvii:
Yeah, but Sprint is CHEAP...

Peeps, go into a Sprint Store. There are like 50 customers in there - take a number. Go into AT&T, Verizon or T-Mobile Stores. Nobody but the reps. Sprint doesn't win because of hardware, they win because of pricing.

Sprint is slow to add these super-phones because the more powerful the phone, the more data people can access and the less cost-effective Sprint's plans become (witness the $10 premium for EVO 4G).

So, with the faster phones you will also get more expensive plans. I'm not due for step-up for 6 more months so no hurries for me. Unless of course I add a new phone to my family plan and just give my EVO to my sister / then I may get a better phone sooner.

** Hate to admit it, but the W7 phones intrigue me since I use Office so heavily on my desktop.
[EVO 4G General] cdszoke:
I agree the Iphone was revolutionary. I am far from an Apple fanboy, plus I get into heated arguments with Apple fanjerks. Yet, the iphone changed the whole phone industry upside down. It set a standard that all phones try to exceed.

But, the atrix could do the same with it's ability to dock and be used as a mini pc/laptop.

engadget.com/2011/01/06/motorola-atrix-4g-hd-multimedia-dock-and-laptop-dock-hands-on/

I'm sorry but after watching this my hatred for AT&T has added a hint of jealousy.

I still love my evo with MikoFroyo!!
[EVO 4G General] RedSpyderX:
Well at the moment Im still not a Sprint customer. I still rely on my unlocked 3GS but my main reason to move on with Sprint is the cheap prices of their plans (besides the fact that my work can require me to travel and I can save big bucks on roaming charges with it), the second reason is the device. My current contract is due on February and I was really expecting something besides the Shift at the CES.

Just like someone said...most of those cellphones wont be released immediately but their unveiling worked really well...How many of you so far have thought about changing careers because of the Thunderbolt or that Atrix that still havent being released? Thats called marketing!

Thats what I was expecting from Sprint! I wouldnt care if its not released tomorrow, but it does gives me a solid idea of what I can expect. Right now the best choice is the Evo but personally I think it will get replaced sooner than expected, so buying it right now (for me) its not a good idea...

I dont know... I believe Ill stay contract-less until summer so I can see what they keep releasing to make my choice.
[EVO 4G General] OneStepAhead:
exactly! I thought we all would want that! can't upgrade till june anyway.
[EVO 4G General] OneStepAhead:
I like the Thunderbolt but I highly doubt anyone would leave their job over it ;)
[EVO 4G General] neodorian:
Sprint's cycle has been similar in past years. CES is always boring then they have something at MWC in Barcelona. Their past two big launches (Palm Pre and HTC Evo) were in the first week of June so I would guess they are on a similar path this year.

There has been a lot of talk about new Tegra 2 phones and other next gen stuff but I think a lot of that is still cooking and Sprint is likely figuring out which manufacturer is the best one to go with for this year's flagship, how they are gonna integrate it with their Wimax strategy, etc.

I'll start to worry if it's May and haven't heard the rumblings yet. Otherwise it's not their typical M.O. to have nothing planned for the summer.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Sprint is waiting on Qualcomm and their dual core second gen snapdragons.....its been well documented on plenty of sites that they have some sort of agreement to use them, so they are waiting on them to hit the market. But its coming, dont even worry about it.
[EVO 4G General] Fam Money:
I just got my Evo last month and am now having major phone envy. When I read the Atrix specs my mouth watered. Then I watched the Engadget video and my jaw dropped at both the desktop and mobile docks for the phone. I want THAT phone.

engadget.com/2011/01/06/motorola-atrix-4g-hd-multimedia-dock-and-laptop-dock-hands-on

Too bad it's on ATT, I'm not giving up my SERO-P anytime soon for a phone.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
What you thought I'd disagree? In another thread I said that the SGS had better tech than the iPhone 4; and that itself is now blown away by the Atrix. I'm not biased just like tech.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Huh? Sprint ain't close to winning anything. They are in third by a long shot. I'm not sure if they are even signing more users than they are losing yet - a issue they've had for a long time now.
[EVO 4G General] dwd3885:
I am having doubts in Sprint as well. Signed up to get the EVO in June, was a former ATT customer. Now this! ATT is going to hit it out of the park, but I try to remember this: Sprint plans still cheaper and offer more, coverage is better where I am, WIMAX, etc.

I want Sprint to get a slim phone even like the Captivate or Samsung Focus. I would jump all over the EPIC if it DIDN'T have the keyboard. Seems like Sprint is in love with slideout keyboards. Need more diverse options.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
i am waiting....

sprint will put something big on the table...

kind of fun.. to watch rumors and follow till it releases.

ex: supersonic... to EVO...

I only get 1 upgrade a year. :)
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Yea that guy is clearly just talking to be talking. Verizon gained more customers than any provider last year followed by AT&T then Sprint. As a matter of fact im not even sure Sprint gained more customers than Tmobile. Hell Verizon gained more customers in one quarter than Sprint gained the whole year. Regardless of price clearly people dont mind paying for good service. Yet he wants you to believe that if you go into a Verizon store no one is ever in there. Come on dude lol...stop talking just to be talking. Hard to believe when they have more customers than ANY provider that there are never any people in the stores.:rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] mclife:
I'm actually starting to get more and more excited that HTC has something big up their sleeves, and Sprint will hopefully be a part of that. They've only so far launched devices that are minor extensions of existing devices (Thunderbolt is like an EVO, Shift is like a G2). No major spec bumps on any of those. They aren't just sitting on their laurels while Moto, Samsung, LG steal the show.

Agree with others that say it might not come at CES. Maybe MWC, which is about a month away, they'll give us a peek. We will probably have to wait till June or say based on past release history. I'm so impatient though.

HTC and Sprint dropped a huge bomb with the EVO last year. HTC has always led the way in the "HUGE" screen phones, starting way back with the first HTC HD (with what now seems minuscule 3.8" screen). I hope the EVO2 will not disappoint. Also excited to see HTC's tablet offering.
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
From what I understand, dual core saves on battery compared to single core. Look it up.
[EVO 4G General] mclife:
That can be true, but it all depends on the quality of the power management in the CPU, and in the OS its running on. If the second core can sleep completely and resume quickly and efficiently, it can be very efficient, and very powerful at the same time.

These power management features from an engineering perspective (especially on the HW side) can be really challenging, so we'll see how good an implementation Tegra 2 is. The 1900+ mAh battery on the Atrix scares me a little though.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I've heard arguments for and against that. Ultimately I believe it to be false; a single core A9 would be better battery life wise and dual core A9 would probably not. We'll see though; but as it's been said, the Atrix 4G having a 1920 mAh battery is not a good sign (which is strange to say).
[EVO 4G General] Zori:
Well I think a plus side to our position is that for a good quarter or so before upgrading, we'll have a chance to see how well these things run and manage battery power.

Sent from my EVO 4G running Evo-NonSense with the XDA app!
[EVO 4G General] cdszoke:
Found the link from engadget. Nvidia wrote a comprehensive report on battery life

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/08/nvidia-touts-the-benefits-of-multi-core-processors-for-smartphon/
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
the reason there is probably no phones coming out for sprint soon, is because people are waiting to see which way the wimax thing goes. Most of the manufacturers are probably on the side of lte, and don't want to put their money into wimax.
[EVO 4G General] firemedic1343:
Interesting, I hadn't considered that. Even though as a consumer I'd be concerned about buying Wimax at this point.
[EVO 4G General] conflikt:
Dual core phone. Nice but don't think most people need that much power. Gaming on a phone I think is stupid, I'd rather play my xbox360 or ps3 for that. Although we will see when a dual core comes out. I'm sure ill get one. :]
[EVO 4G General] thekarens:
Why would gaming on a phone be stupid? Many of us, including myself, like the portability of hand held system. I can take it out and play a few minutes whenever I have time. I have an 360, wii and a desktop gaming system, but I still spend more time playing on the phone because I'm not home that much and I only have a few minutes here and there to play. I like having my gaming, media, computer and phone all in my pocket.
[EVO 4G General] HondaCop:
I have a PSP for that.

Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Maybe some people would rather carry around just a 4"-4.3" phone and a extra battery, rather than two big mobile devices.
[EVO 4G General] driguez:
Omg stfu already...... I bet my edick its bigger than yours
[EVO 4G General] HondaCop:
lmao

Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G General] jagox5:
Disappointed.

A very poor poor Showing for Sprint.

I'm disappointed.

Want a Real Evo 2 with Dual core.

not that Evo shift crap.
[EVO 4G General] cdszoke:
guys don't fret. If sprint is waiting for Qualcomm I read that the adreno 220 will be stronger than tegra 2 gpu. So, I'll wait.
[EVO 4G General] HondaCop:
+1 I have a strong strong feeling June will be our month. :-) Just in time for my premium member upgrade.

Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G General] cesarcerros31:
He is right qualcomm will bring in the good stuff and by then I will sell my evo and buy off contract evolution 2
[EVO 4G General] HTCEVOKING:
think......

First you have to keep in mind verizon has been the first real cellphone,pager carrier (bellsouth..bell anything) they have phone service, cable service etc so it makes real easy to get everything in one bill.

Second AT&T has always #2 to verizon (bell anything) and ATT picked up alot of ppl with the iphone. if not att would be 4th alot of ppl forget they changed their name because no one wanted their service but apple was not going to release a phone upper some new company and at that time spirnt was their next choice.

THird Spirnt was the cellphone company with the best phones and best plans. they always had the lastest phones. they was pick up ground fast. that is what made verizon get better phones. that is what tmobile did and doing. they was pushing andriod first and was picking up ground fast. and getting verizon,at&t and spirnt user.

at the end of the day its all about ANDROID! NOTHING ELSE I WOULD BUT ANDROID STOCK!

what makes these phones good is android..verizon calls their DROID to make them self seem different same ****.. its all about who gives the best upside to android. they want to be in the market with microsoft and apple. how has more business users? spirnt got alot with buying nextel. and tmobile is not in the business market like that. AT&T has alot of iphone users but its been provide that they are not business users really.. so your talking bberry carriers right???? well nextel had bberry first which would give sprint a good user market. So i really feel sprint will jump a real good cutting edge business phone. that has been tested and works pretty good not just a phone with alot of bells..

atrix 4g good phone but has problems...

engadget.com/2011/01/06/motorola-atrix-4g-hd-multimedia-dock-and-laptop-dock-hands-on

you show a phone that will not do all that you marketed it for at the show.

THE EVO 4g did everything they marketed it as day one. If you wondering I carrier a HTC EVO 4g and a tmobile MY TOUCH 4g
[EVO 4G General] AbsolutZeroGI:
Seriously, guys. CTIA. That's when Sprint will blow everyone out of the water. Was that not the event the Evo was first announced publically?

I think that Sprint is holding their super power phones until then because by then the other carriers will have released all theirs and it'll be the only phone going.

Last year in June I don't remember anything except Evo and Incredible, Evo and Incredible. Even the iPhone came and went and it didn't feel like a real event to me. This June? Evo 2 and Incredulous? Evo Empire Strikes Back and Incredible Two Towers? Anyone?

Just me, huh? :D I can't wait for summertime.
[EVO 4G General] mykenyc:
Honestly i wouldn't say i'm jealous, i'm just excited for the event and wouldn't mind seeing sprint up there. I think if Sprint is going for the iPhone 1 year super phone bid, it's not a bad idea considering people can't upgrade often, i just hope if they do make a "EVO 2" it does blow everything out the water, and have a honeycomb phone version on it.
[EVO 4G General] jamezr:
Getting envious of all the other carriers that have announced new super great phones....BUT I would be very happy with 4G service in my area (Phoenix) and a better battery that would last all day! My EVO is pretty perfect the way it is....but a better battery would be a big plus in my book....

Dual Core processors sound great but will it make my phone THAT much faster? But it will be a power hungry beast on a phone line that already has battery issues..... Sprint HTC...we need better battery life! :-)
[EVO 4G General] HondaCop:
We already have better battery life. It's called: CM6.1.2 + Zendroid SBC kernel.

You can easily get 10+ hours of HEAVY use.

PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
[EVO 4G General] dwd3885:
I think it's disappointing Sprint isn't announcing ANYTHING at CES. It would be nice if Sprint had a 4" thin and light android phone. The EVO is GREAT, but a little heavy and thick compared to some of the stuff AT&T announced. But you also have to keep in mind that none of the stuff announced is actually out. The Atrix will be out first, but the other stuff is likely all Q2 2011. Meaning, Sprint can announce something at CTIA and still release it before these monster phones are out.

But it is better to have many awesome phones, regardless of what some may think. Choice is always good and if you have 4-5 high end android phones, then maybe it wouldn't be so hard to get the EVO (which is still sold out in many stores).

I wish Sprint came out with a Galaxy S phone without the keyboard. It would rock.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Ah yes, because 10 hours (or pick any random time for the EVO) is great. Lets all not want more power efficient hardware or bigger stock batteries.
[EVO 4G General] nickcash:
Nice. Agreed. Nuff said.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Yes and let's all pay a nice etf to get something and a month later something better comes out....gtfoh
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Easy as calling up the carrier and having them waive the ETF for you. And that's besides the point, we're looking at present tech and appreciating what it offers - not being completely oblivious or ignorant about it.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
Go reread some of your posts.....not so sure about that.

Lol just call them up and they will waive it huh? I got some land in the middle of the Atlantic I think would be perfect for you.
[EVO 4G General] Zori:
LOL! XDDD

Anyways. What I'm worried about is that well before CTIA, we all knew there was something coming. We had all been reading about the rumors of the HTC Supersonic. Now, it seems like all the previous rumors became the phones we saw at CES. Super phones usually don't pop up to us outta nowhere, we always have rumors and leaks.. right now, as far as I know, there are none D:
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
If you call up a competing carrier they will most likely pay the ETF for you if you switch. You just got to be persuasive about it. Someone on this forum suggested that I do this, I had no intention to actually do it, but I called up Verizon anyway and they did offer it.
[EVO 4G General] ovrrdrive:
Sometimes I hate Sprint being late to the market but I think now they're on this schedule on purpose...

They let everyone else drop these big bombs at the beginning of the year and then release something that works ever so slightly better mid year and lock everyone that buys into it into a 2 year contract. They have made a lot of money from the evo/epic phones this year.

As for power being important, I think it matters a lot up to a certain point and then it becomes more about features. At least that's how I work. I can remember drooling over 2 or three cpu/mobo upgrades a year for years and years but now that I have a quad core 2.8ghz and a feature rich mb upgrades just don't seem to matter as much anymore to me. It works so well even after a year that I'm still not ready to build another one yet. Right now with my phone I want faster and more powerful and better battery life. After those all reach a level I'm satisfied with I'll look for something that starts my car and balanaces my checkbook too.

Nice phone motorola...