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[Captivate General] uhmump95:
I am an HTC fan boy. I got the Captivate because it was the best option on AT&T. Although my phone is working well, I am hoping AT&T will allow android owners the option of early upgrading like they do to iPhone owners. If so, I will be looking at the Atrix or Inspire (probably the Inspire...)
[Captivate General] sarcasmo:
Somewhat off-topic, but I played with that set-up while at CES. I was very impressed. The nicesest thing about the laptop dock was that it contains a large battery that provides power to the phone. The Motorola rep claimed power enough for 8 hours of use. With a full keyboard and a near-instant 'on' it made me think an Atrix + dock might be a superior to choice to phone + tablet.

A few cool tidbits:

- screen quality was very good

- when docked, your phone screen shows on the laptop screen in its own window. This allows you to see incoming calls and such. Not sure how integrated all of the functionality is though. For instance, I'm not sure if you can place calls using a mic and speaker while the phone is docked.

- build quality was high on initial inspection
[Captivate General] Nickel Dime Bay:
What exactly is a QHD screen?
[Captivate General] prayread:
I second that. I'm done with Samsung. HTC here I come.
[Captivate General] nr2134:
Im done with Samsung, unless the Nexus S comes with ATT bands. Otherwise, Atrix it is come March 1st.
[Captivate General] shadow65781:
hello moto ftw
[Captivate General] nr2134:
Motorola is a customer of ours and I got to play with the Atrix for a couple minutes last week when I was at their Schaumburg campus. Its pretty freaking snappy and the screen looked great. The blacks were not as crisp as the Cappy, but the text looked better IMO. The screen sensitivity was not as smooth, but neither was mine on the Cappy until I installed LauncherPro. The Atrix was running MotoBlur and I was not allowed to install LP. The only reason why I would pick a Nexus S(with ATT bands) over the Atrix, would be the updates. Otherwise its a no brainer to me.

Although Moto has been pretty good about the updates as of late, so this might be a moot point. This is the phone to get if on the ATT network period. Seeing that ATT cant rely on the iPhone anymore and Moto has a hard on for making a comeback(wont let ATT make them look bad), I think the updates will come quicker than the ones for Captivate. But then again, I think I will get an update for my Commodore 64 quicker than my Cappy.

I also liked the feel of it. Not as heavy as my iPhone 4, and not as light as the Captivate. Had a nice feel to it I must admit. Wish I had more, but there was a supervisor walking by and I had to hand that thing back........unfortunately.

Ok, back to my wine. :D
[Captivate General] gunnyman:
Thirded. I've learned my lesson.
[Captivate General] xThe Enforcer:
May I ask why?
[Captivate General] gunnyman:
Because Samsung doesn't care about service after the sale. I know the Nexus S is going to be maintained entirely by Google, but it's the principle of it. I won't buy anything from Samsung ever again.
[Captivate General] upNsmokeAllDay:
Samsung and ATT are both garbage and heres the proof. :mad:

http://blogs.computerworld.com/17649/android_upgrades

Samsung swings into third place in terms of both overall upgrade numbers and average upgrade time. Samsung so far has upgraded only one out of nine Android phones that fit the criteria for our comparison, giving it an upgrade score of 11.1 percent. That phone -- the Samsung Intercept -- was on the market for 159 days before getting its upgrade. Its rollout also encountered some serious problems -- so all together, this score is not one to be proud of.

http://blogs.computerworld.com/17650/android_upgrades_carriers

AT&T is without question the dunce of the group. The carrier everyone loves to hate has consistently shown itself to be the least desirable choice for Android, and its upgrade numbers reflect that attitude: Between June and December, AT&T failed to upgrade a single one of its nine Android phones. On the plus side, Dell's Streak is set to "hopefully" receive its Froyo upgrade sometime this month (Dell, interestingly, faults AT&T for the delay in getting the software rolled out). We'll have to see whether the carrier's habits improve in 2011, what with the launch of the Verizon iPhone and AT&T's subsequent loss of Apple exclusivity. If nothing else, we can say that the network does have some impressive-looking devices on the way.
[Captivate General] xThe Enforcer:
True; I understand but I've heard the Nexus S has been getting a lot of random shut downs. Every phone has their pros and cons.
[Captivate General] ryude:
I find it very hilarious to read on xda-dev people complaining about lack of updates from samsung/att, I mean even if they did release the damn update I still wouldn't use it over what we have now.

I never judge a phone by it's stock software, only by it's dev support and how easy it is to recover/flash.
[Captivate General] zelendel:
Well I was wondering when someone was going to say it. People complain about not getting the official update but then they will complain that it is slow and buggy. The only good thing that will come of them releasing anything will be the source code, other then that the base roms will be completely useless. And as far as to why they are stalling I think it is to do what Moto did with the locked bootloader. Just my 2cents.
[Captivate General] jamespaulritter:
4.5 might be nice. Can you tell me do all 2.2 phones offer full adobe flash? Does this mean that when I finally do get a froyo device that I will never have to look at that default incompatible error flash icon on webpages, the browser will be a desktop-like experience?
[Captivate General] nkd:
SAY NO TO SAMSUNG. I dont care if throw in a quad core intel i7 processor in that piece of crap. I will never buy samsung based phone again. They fail as a company, all in for market share. They seem to be worried about the asian market more and always leave behind the U.S consumers.

Why do some people provide excuses for samsung. Oh I would rather have a stable product then buggy product. They have had enough time to push through froyo. So many differnet variants of galaxy s are already shipping with froyo. There is no excuse anymore, its january 2011.
[Captivate General] jamespaulritter:
I don't plan on paying for my captivates replacement. I plan on returning it until AT&T coughs up a working device whether it is Samsung or not. That is a good way to show a company that they sold a junk product; by the number of returns.
[Captivate General] SuperSport:
I agree strongly with this. With one exception. It is nice to get updated drivers. With those, we can make any type of ROM we want, but drivers are one of those things it's hard for us Devs to create from scratch.

They ALL worry about the Asian market more. That's not just Samsung's fail.

This is the single most effective way to get a point across to a company. That and burning down their building, but that usually ends up poorly... :o
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
The amount of people swearing off Samsung in this thread pleases me.

The more people the better. I hope Samsung goes out of business. I realize they won't, but I can still hope they do.

Sent from my Captivate.
[Captivate General] silverwolf0:
I remember when people were swearing off Motorola, calling every phone from the company a POS and that they didn't do anything at all after the RAZR. Then they released the Droid and everyone did a collective 180 and smothered them with kisses and hugs. Now they've found a new victim. Samsung.

This board is overrun with people of this sort. Temperamental women running their menstrual cycles with posts about loving then hating then loving then hating, except they aren't women, and the cycles don't just come once a month.

I've owned phones from every one of the top 5 manufacturers and they all have their ups and downs. I haven't heard of any buildings being burned down either, so all the anger is just pathetic nerd rage. A few angry emails sent to corporate will do the trick. Or maybe go take a few Ritalin, lie down, and come to the conclusion that the world ain't perfect and no one is out to get you.
[Captivate General] jgr208:
This is my first and last samsung phone ever, no back and forth for me.
[Captivate General] SuperSport:
Please know this was just a silly joke statement... I don't believe in burning down anything to make a point.

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[Captivate General] mark_20:
I agree this is the most effective way to put pressure on AT&T to resolve these issues. They incur costs for every phone exchanged under warranty, and even with their pi$$ poor customer service they are not going to want to alienate any more customers than they already have. I am on my third Craptivate in the last three weeks, and it is going back this week. I am now on a zero tolerance policy, one issue and the phone goes back.

Sooner or later they will exchange it for a different model just to make me go away......

This will be my last Samdung phone, at least until they have a proven track record of testing and supporting their phones. That means the Nexus S is out as a replacement, and any new phones they release in the short term.
[Captivate General] ryude:
Well I'll be sad to see you all go, but I will be getting the Infuse 4G or whatever phone has the best screen display between 4-4.5". Sorry, but honestly android is android as long as it is 2.2 out the box I will be happy and I will not expect any updates nor will I be mad if they don't update.
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
Enjoy the half dozen problems that that phone will launch with.

And never be fixed.
[Captivate General] ryude:
Thanks, I will :D
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
And then I wonder why Apple had a following.

Sent from my Captivate.
[Captivate General] ryude:
I really like your roms, but you're attitude is leaving me with a bad taste in my mouth.
[Captivate General] simulatordos:
Absolutely. Which is why I won't be buying any of them until I see that it's been done. I don't trust those mfs
[Captivate General] Dilldoser:
I believe this is not a "Galaxy S" device. For one at CES never did Samsung include Galaxy S in the name of the phone or even mention it. Something else that backs this up is that it is exclusive to Att unlike what the last line of Galaxy S phones that were on all carriers. And like a previous comment said Samsung has invested a lot of money into dual-core processors for their phones. All this leads me to believe that the real Galaxy S phone will come later this year.
[Captivate General] FIREONHIGH:
yes,something to consider before purchasing, i think i will use capt,until the summer/fall and see whats out, i got flash so i can live with that:)
[Captivate General] nkd:
I will always thank devs for the effort they have made and made the captivate far better then it would be thanks to samsung. I hate them and will never buy again, worst company who refuses to update their phones. Motorola means business these days, heck even the first droid has froyo. I would expect motorola to get gingerbread before samsung any day.
[Captivate General] vuoflfan:
AT&T has the bigest interest in not rolling out froyo. The mobile ap allows the phone to be wifi for up to 5 devices. This service at&t charges an extra $50 - $60 for the ability to tether. I think they are trying to figure out how to charge when you turn this on...I have tethered on several different phones and they have yet to figure out that i was doing it. The only way they would find out is if i told them. Think of the hundreds of thousands of $ they will lose if they cant figure out how to recognize when a phone is using the wireless tethering....even sprint charges $60 for their little mobile hot spot wifi tethering equipment...

And btw....cant wait till iphone does go on verizon.....cant talk and search web at same time.....and the utms....data transfer speed isnt a fast as at&t....we'll see how fast their network will be then......lol

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=940027&page=1
[Captivate General] emuneee:
Well then AT&T will just strip out the Mobile AP functionality from their Froyo release as they've done in the JJ4 leaked Froyo build. Then they'll use their own Mobile AP app in its place. Its not that hard. :)
[Captivate General] Dilldoser:
ww.pootube.com/watch?v=zVukmOildrE&NR=1&feature=fvwp

...nuff said

BTW change the url name to "you" instead of poo. i couldnt post because of spam or some junk.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shawn328:
Just a quick question. Does anyone know if gingerbread youtube has been ported for froyo ? I mean we got the Keyboard and the music player. I've searched all day and haven't found it. I don't want to run the gingerbread yet because I'm a fan of sense(mainly because of tv out). So if anyone knows of a thread for a ported apk, I'd appreciate it.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DjCalvin:
I thought 2.1.6 was the version that was pushed out last week via update through the market.. same as in gingerbread...
[Nexus S General] dudeimgeorge:
with this weeks CES you would think that, yeah, ok, decent phone line ups. But to completely destroy i mean, ANNIHILATE this precious device seems a little too soon

not so.

Between the HTC Thunderbolt (HAS A ****EN 1900mah battery) and GET READY FOR IT: SAMSUNG INFUSE 4G...

...the nexus S looks like a motorola startech.

i feel used and abused. samsung upped the res, size of screen, added 4g and is added a 1.2ghz cpu and IS THIN AS HELL.

god help me. i PRAY developers stick with the plan and make this nexus S community live a long and hearty life like the nexus one. But i just keep feeling more and more that i jumped on this a tad to fast...hey..at least im still off contract?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/...ounced-for-atandt-4-5-inch-super-amoled-plus/
[Nexus S General] Joshfu13:
The phone does look pretty awesome. However, I'd stick with a pure google phone over an At&T + touchwiz device that will be getting OS upgrades ages after us. Also, I think it is a 1.2 ghz single core cpu.
[Nexus S General] slowz3r:
I predict there is going to be a **** load of these threads this week. so let me get it outa the way

this is how technology works! Tech is rapidly improving at an exponetial rate, the NS was not a jump ahead like the N1, is the NS life going to be shorter than the N1, oh hell yes

you knew when you bought a NS what it had and what it didnt have. do you really want a phone with touchwiz and that wont see updates for months after initial release? i sure dont.
[Nexus S General] unremarked:
1) Not dual core. Article says " 1.2GHz single-core Hummingbird processor." More than likely this is just an overclocked out of the box version of the Hummingbird.

2) 4.5" is too big. 4.3" is too big. 4" is perfect.

3) Whoopdedoo about the cameras.

4) Whoopdedoo about 4G/HSPA+.

5) Frak TouchWIz

6) Frak Samsung handling the updates

7) Frak AT&T. They're going to screw with it because they don't want a good Android phone going against the iPhone.

8) Frak AT&T again for their network.

/thread
[Nexus S General] slowz3r:
Pretty sure its just an OC'd hummingbird, doubt Samsung would start up another line just for 1.2ghz hummingbirds....
[Nexus S General] ViLANDER:
My first android phone was Nexus One. My second android phone is Nexus S.

Do you know WHY?

Because I want the pure Google experience and skip all of that BLOATWARE applications that makes future updates of Android delayed.
[Nexus S General] qreffie:
Spec-wise yeah it's awesome, but considering every US carrier is still waiting for the 2.2 update I think I'm gonna ride this Nexus S thing out and see where it takes me. Having direct Google support and knowing I'll get timely updates is more important to me than having the baddest phone on the block for all of 6 months until the next powerhouse comes along.
[Nexus S General] gogol:
Oh well, I think that's fine to skip this 4.5" phone :)

We could enjoy this Nexus S with Android 2.3.1 (who knows it will get 2.4 on Feb? MWC!) ...

And later on Android Honeycomb IF it is 3.0 !

Bottom line, that phone will wait early 2012 to get what we would be getting mid year 2011 (Google IO?) ...

We can place a bet to guess when the old Samsung Galaxy S will get 2.3.1 :D

And believe me, 2012 there will be a new Nexus X ... and repeat ...

So, yes, I don't mind getting not-so-up-to-date-hardware as long as I will get the-most-up-to-date-software !
[Nexus S General] Lord_Buckington:
The only really frustrating thing is that the Infuse has a SAMOLED Plus screen, "that features a 50 percent boost in sub-pixel count, promising improvements both in contrast and outdoor readability." (Source: Engadget)
[Nexus S General] slateac:
OP has all his facts messed up,

1) The HTC thunderbolt DOES NOT have a 1900mah battery, it has a 1230mah battery identical to the Desire HD

2)The Samsung Infuse 4G IS NOT dual-core, it's an overclocked Hummingbird

Seriously, why are you complaining, the Nexus S is availble now and using the most powerful hardware that was availble at his very moment.

These phones being announced today are announced models that would be available for people in the future.

And, none of those phones are launching with Gingerbread an they have custom skins painted all over
[Nexus S General] diversificationied:
The phone has a TBD release date. Meaning it's gonna line up with ATT hsps+ release schedule, meaning you can expect this phone to be released near april at the earliest.
[Nexus S General] slowz3r:
My logic is like this. You can have the most badass computer on the planet but if its running Windows ME it aint ****
[Nexus S General] thoms04:
Agreed, i tried to live with Desire HD and it was just far to big for me.

The Nexus S 4" is indeed perfect :D
[Nexus S General] nyijedi:
The Nexus S is all about a pure Google experience, i.e., no crappy skin, no stripped down OS, and timely updates.

It's rather simple: if you bought the Nexus S for its hardware and not its software, you bought the wrong phone.
[Nexus S General] shrivelfig:
I didn't get the Nexus S because it had awesome specs and bragging rights. I got it because it was unlocked, off-contract, crapware-free and with os updates directly from Google.

Even if all those wonderful new phones had been available and for sale 3 weeks ago, I would still have chosen the Nexus S. Because I want the freedom. Freedom is more important to me than wow factor and bragging rights.
[Nexus S General] dudeimgeorge:
you guys are right

no your right man, i mean, ive been on the pure google experience from day one. its just that the nexus one's life span in regards to staying on top is simply phenomenal and as the days passed and the devs worked away, it just got better and better. so i thought they would proportionatley stick with the same principles and apply that to the nexus s. and with tech especially the last 2-3 years have been exponentially ripping it up...im just wierded out by googles decision. besides, i think we all agree that...at&t is pretty much full blown AIDs

im only *****ing because the specs being upped so rappidly.

i will still stick it through and stay loving my pure google experience. i just expected google to see the horizon a tad bit further, thats all

p.s your all my best friends and i apologize for the typos and the nagging. but come one, you cant say a slight cringe isn't allowed with such a situation.
[Nexus S General] dudeimgeorge:
@shrivelfig well said man. your my boy
[Nexus S General] zorak950:
I will say it again, though I must admit I'm tiring of repeating myself in every thread that keeps popping up on this theme. Anyone who bought the Nexus S expecting its hardware to have staying power for more than a month or two was deluding themselves. We all knew it was based on a phone that had been around the better part of a year already, and that the CES was coming up in just a few weeks, at which we were certain to be bombarded with shiny new Android phones.

The only reason I would have (and still would) recommend the Nexus S is because of its vanilla Android stock firmware, unadulterated by manufacturer or carrier. To me, and many others, this is more important than any number of cores or millimeters shaved off the form factor. If you are not, however, a person for which this is true, you will find yourself disappointed by your Nexus S in the very near future.
[Nexus S General] dinan:
Well looks like Samsung has finally decided to make an RGB SAMOLED panel... the article states an increase in subpixel capacity which to me means they switched to RGB and ditched pentile for this one. You'd definitely need it at 4.5", the fuzzyness of pentile at that size would be terrible.
[Nexus S General] slowz3r:
Anyone who buys any device expecting the hardware to last is living in a dream world. the N1 was a fluke, it was just so ahead of its time dont expect more N1 like devices any time soon IMHO technology is progressing rapidly
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
The most impressive thing, to me, announced at CES are the batteries. It's nice to see 1900+ mAh specs. I'm hoping official 1900+ batteries will be available for the Nexus S; can you imagine how long it would last?
[Nexus S General] slowz3r:
if i could get a hold of a 1900mah batt for the NS i would love the phone even more
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
#2 I agree with. EVO 4G I test drove for a month wan't TOO big, but it was too big for one handed operation, and borderline too big for pocket carrying, etc.

#8 For me, AT&T network much more reliable for overall coverage, and 3G data than T-Mobile (in north part of Los Angeles City). T-Mo's faster 3G by 30% or more where it works, but it's far from ubiquitous here in the San Fernando Valley, especially indoors.

#7 I think is wrong. The speculation now from many pundits is that this phone is AT&T's attempt to have a real "killer" Android device because the iPhone exclusivity is up and they need a non-iPhone that actually competes with the iPhone to attract the Android fans to replace folks who will be jumping AT&T for the (perpetually) rumored Verizon iPhone.
[Nexus S General] dudeimgeorge:
relax chief, i know the concept and i respect the pure google factor. so im just going on on a tangent regarding the specs. i guess its more of a ode to how exponentially faster technology is evolving. no need to get all high and mighty on the purpose of the phone. one could argue that if the purpose is stricly pure google, then lets keep making the same exact phone every year without making any changes, as long as its unlocked and open, we are all happy. anyways. happy new year. friendship forever
[Nexus S General] clubtech:
Relax.

The Samsung 4G phone will be release in Q2....that means 3 to 6 (SIX!!!) months away...

and as the press release shows -it will be released with 2.2?? in Q2??

To the OP: you have at least 3-4 months to enjoy your new Nexus S...

Now as for the Motorola Dual core phone - there is no release date yet - but it sounds like it is close. if you are into a super locked down phone - then Motorola is for you.
[Nexus S General] unremarked:
I suppose that's a fair enough point, but my jab was mainly at AT&Ts crippling of past Android devices like the little HTC Aria and/or Backflip. I believe the Captivate was also negatively modified by them, though I don't recall in what way.
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
A jab they certainly deserved, but that's the deal they made when they got in bed with the devil (Steve Jobs). ;)

Actually, I don't think Jobs is the devil; many of his products are great, but his iPhone policies are real pissers in my opinion.