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[Epic 4G Android Development] Mugen678:
I agree, I had froyo on my hero long before I even thought about switching to the epic.... and they've made so much progress on gingerbread... I often wonder whether I made the right choice or not going with the epic. Although the evo doesn't have a keyboard and is really square, it gets a lot of attention and has had many official updates. I wish samsung would get off of their asses and just release the source.
[Epic 4G Android Development] rufflez2010:
I'd love to help out any way I can. I'm not a programmer, but I hve a great understanding on what the issue is. I had a hero before the epic, and they have fully functional froyo despite never having kernel source. One would have to be built, cause I don't think samsung is going to really support us that much longer (if at all) and give us any hope for gingerbread source. The trickiest part is the cdma/wimax radios (wimax still not supported in cyanogenmod for evo).
[Epic 4G Android Development] msponsler:
Did you build gingerbread from source?

What kernel are you using?

I built a 2.6.36 last night...but the more I thought about it, the more I realized it doesn't do me any good as it is right now.

I've downloaded samsung's kernel source for 2.6.29 and I'm trying to get the modules for the video, radio, etc... to compile with 2.6.36.

The nexus s is using 2.6.35, which is fine when it comes to the video drivers, wifi, and such....but it doesn't do us any good when it comes to 3G because tmobile doesn't use CDMA, so it wouldn't have the same radio kernel modules.

I'm currently running noobnl's cyanogenmod (froyo) on my epic, and that has a 2.6.32.9 kernel. I'll have to take a closer look at how you built that kernel.
[Epic 4G Android Development] nerdtaco:
Thank you for your initiative OP! I appreciate it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] kenvan19:
Seconded! I know nothing about developing software but I'm a pretty good test dummy =)
[Epic 4G Android Development] furysama:
This is pretty kickass. Is there anything in particular you could use for help? I have some limited experience with both linux and android specific kernels.
[Epic 4G Android Development] msponsler:
At this point I don't necessarily need any assistance. But thanks for all the offers!

If I have any questions / requests I'll sure to let everyone know!

Thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] furysama:
The only other question i have is this: how difficult is it to integrate Samsung's 4g drivers into an AOSP mod? Now, I know if we wanted to keep it 100% AOSP it would be... difficult. But is it possible to run a 90% AOSP mod, and just keep the drivers for 4G in the AOSP kernel?
[Epic 4G Android Development] daryelv:
Very very difficult considering it took a team of developers a few months on the EVO to get 4G working with a AOSP kernel. I guess it will depend on how Samsung releases the code, they'll probably not release the 4g code because it doesn't fall under the GPL. If they were to release the drivers as modules that could be included in a kernel, that would be great, but I doubt they'd do that either.

In other words... don't hold your breath...

-Daryel
[Epic 4G Android Development] furysama:
The reason it took the CM team so long is because they developed their own drivers from the ground up. I'm willing to bet that it's much easier to rip the drivers out of the kernel we already have than to replicate the work that the CM team did.

The GPL licensing is *why* the CM team developed their own drivers; not because its impossible to get Samsung's code, but because doing so would have violated the licensing terms of Samsung's code and of Cyanogenmod.
[Epic 4G Android Development] SubnetMask:
Only problem there is the EVO and Epic have VERY different WiMax radios. From everything I've heard, the Epic's radio follows Linux standard, whereas the EVO's does not, making the WiMax radio in the Epic much easier to get functioning than the EVO's.
[Epic 4G Android Development] schnowdapowda:
Well I hope so.. do you have a source on that? Id love to read up on the differences.
[Epic 4G Android Development] shabbypenguin:
the evo wimax was filled with proprietary bits, and even then it was reversed and still using htc stuff.

whats the status on this? as i would imagine unless your building the kernel against current cm6 source your not going to get a whole lot farther then a kernel panic... but thats just my theory on it all
[Epic 4G Android Development] msponsler:
AOSP Gingerbread != the kernel.

Gingerbread (android in general basically) is the set of programs, daemons, etc... that sit in user space and interact with the kernel, that sits in kernel space.

You wouldn't necessarily need 2.6.35 (kernel on nexus s gingerbread) to run gingerbread. Obviously, 2.6.35 would have the best features and optimizations for Gingerbread -- since it was written for 2.6.35. But you could technically use 2.6.29 and on. As long as gingerbread does not make any specific system calls into kernel space that are only supported with 2.6.35 and onward.

The specific module's source files for the SGX530 video, Qualcomm QSC6085, etc... are included with samsung's 2.6.29 kernel source. I'm trying to compile them with 2.6.36, and will try with 2.6.35 as well. Modules can be a lot trickier, as they usually are a lot more tailored for a specific kernel. Especially if they are already compiled.

A couple of avenues that I am taking:

-Attempt to compile epic 4g's modules with 2.6.36, 2.6.35, and on backward.

-I re-compiled samsung's 2.6.29 kernel with the driver modules and ext4, etc... I'm going to attempt to run gingerbread off that, and watch how quickly it blows up...

-I'm going to look at other kernel's, like noobnl's kernel he put in cyanogenmod. It's 2.6.32, and it has video / wifi / CDMA radio / etc.. in it. I need to get ahold of him and figure out a) what source is he using -- from samsung, kernel.org, etc... and what modules he's using. b) his .config file for the kernel.

I'm going to take the same avenue with Dameon87 about his compiled kernel's for epic 4g froyo. As well as looking toward the manufacturer for information about their kernel drivers for their hardware.

Using 2.6.35 modules from the nexus s kernel wouldn't be too bad for things like the camera, wifi, video, etc... but WOULD be a problem with the CDMA radio / GPS since they are different obviously (CDMA vs. HSPA+).

I've got a bunch of options and ideas I'm throwing around in my head. Feel free to contribute your thoughts / concerns / ideas. I'm not trying to do this in the dark and say "look what I did on my own!" if / when I get any type of usable progress. It's Linux, and it's a community effort :-)

With that said, I will work diligently on this as much as possible. Between work (and if you've ever been a Sys Admin, you know that you're never really "off the clock"), my wife, my addictive StarCraft II habit, the gym, and every Thursday happy hour... I'm focused on this 100%!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] kenvan19:
Kernel panic!
[Epic 4G Android Development] shabbypenguin:
not to be a **** but where did you hear that it has hspa+? :P even google seems to be convinced its just regular umts
[Epic 4G Android Development] Zeinzu:
I think its time all the epic devs jumped onboard with this and all collaborate as a team, if everyone were to work on this together I honestly believe it could get done

Sent from my Epic 4g
[Epic 4G Android Development] gophergun:
Wouldn't the CM6 Epic kernel source be available on his Github? https://github.com/noobnl

(Dunno if it's actually on there, but it might save some trouble.)
[Epic 4G Android Development] plapczyn:
I'm in. Not super familiar with kernel building, but I am very familiar with embedded code development, cross-compiling, OSEK, debugging, configuration management, issue reporting etc, make-support, and flash bootloaders.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DevinXtreme:
As far as I know, all he did was take the DK28 kernel, ripped out the initramfs, made some changes to point to various things, and repacked the zImage. We still don't have the source.
[Epic 4G Android Development] msponsler:
My golden retriever, Rupert, told me.

My black lab, Nibbler, also concurred. I took their word for it.

Honestly, I just assumed it was HSPA+. It's CDMA and not compatible with Sprint's network, which is what matters.
[Epic 4G Android Development] msponsler:
The source would be nice to have. I'll have to bug him about it. I've got plans tonight, and I won't be able to do any tinkering until tomorrow.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bubby323:
PM'ed you bro.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bubby323:
To the OP https://github.com/cmsgs/initramfs-utils
[Epic 4G Android Development] shabbypenguin:
uhh ok well i think you might have soem things mixed up so ill try to give teh laymans of it

GSM:

worldwide standard

uses analog (1G)

edge (akin to dialup data)

3g (umts/wcdma)

Hspa+ (4g)

CDMA:

more americanized standard

analog (1g)

cdmaone (dialup/digital version of cdma)

evdo (3g)

4g (LTE/wimax)

so as you see the nexus s is not compatblie with any cdma carriers, in fact its barely compatble with ATT and tmobile.. (well i mean it "works" on either but tmo gets 3g data only and att i think gets edge)
[Epic 4G Android Development] smoothone:
With that said, I will work diligently on this as much as possible. Between work (and if you've ever been a Sys Admin, you know that you're never really "off the clock"), my wife, my addictive StarCraft II habit, the gym, and every Thursday happy hour... I'm focused on this 100%!!!

LOL, sound like you have a lot of free time, jk. Thanks for your efforts!
[Epic 4G Android Development] sweepingzero:
Samsung should just release whatever they have and jut let the devs fix it. I wouldn't be surprised if 5 people here could et it up and running faster than they could.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Magic Oreo:
Once cm6 is out of beta and cm7 is released im guessing gingerbread isnt to far away.

Anyways don't take my word or anything im no dev.

But i 100% support this more devs the better. Keep up the work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] kenvan19:
Cm7 is gingerbread.
[Epic 4G Android Development] msponsler:
Why would tmobile / samsung release the nexus s non-hspa+ ??

I get that nexus S isn't cdma compatible. My point was, you could get a nexus s rom to run on the epic -- you just won't have a working 3G radio.

But, the compiled kernel modules for the video, wifi, and such (not radio) should be portable to the epic.
[Epic 4G Android Development] shabbypenguin:
you wouldnt have a working radio at all, not just 3g. no data no voice calls etc but i mean that of course could be patched in with cm6. as for why samsung/google went with a non hspa+ phone for tmobile i have no idea.. :(
[Epic 4G Android Development] kenvan19:
It is indeed quite lame.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Magic Oreo:
exactly my point.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dameon87:
This is no easy task and in all honesty, I doubt you will get very far. Some of the proprietary crap for the epic we don't even have di18 source. Also, the ext4 crap in 2.6.29 (di18) is broken. Modules compiled against the kernel will not load, and when compiled in kernel, the kernel will not recogize ext4 partitions. I've tried extensively.

Anything you get from di18 is likely not going to compile against anything higher than 2.6.29. Those modules we do have source for would require heavy modification to compile against the new kernel.

Those we do not have source for are not going to load, since the modules were compiled against 2.6.29.

For google to have went with 2.6.35, likely means they used something included in the release or found reason to upgrade.

Either way, good luck, but in all honesty, it probably won't happen before we have the grounds for cm7 on the epic.

You also assume that the nexus s uses the same exact hardware as the epic, in which case you would be wrong. There is a diff bluetooth chip, as well as wifi I believe.

Camera I'm not sure on. Either way, even if you did manage to get a Bootable kernel, you wouldn't get much farther than that.

Not trying to be pessimistic, just trying to be real.
[Epic 4G Android Development] msponsler:
I know. I was implying it.

But yeah, they should have gone with hspa +
[Epic 4G Android Development] msponsler:
I haven't used any of your Roms, so I don't know what kernel rev you use. Do you have any kernel / Samsung module source on got hip I can sift through?

I realize that the chances of success are slim at best, but hey why not give it a shot?

What's the worst that happens? I fail horribly? I can live with that.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bigray327:
Whatever happens, thanks for trying.
[Epic 4G Android Development] schnowdapowda:
That's the spirit!
[Epic 4G Android Development] msponsler:
Thanks for the words of encouragement!!! The cards are definately stacked against me. But my buddy capt. Morgan thinks I'll do fine. BTW...I like rum :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] akijikan:
I may be mistaken but if you're hoping for source from a 2.2 kernel I don't believe any exists.

Also, terran, protoss, or zerg?
[Epic 4G Android Development] rufflez2010:
Currently, source doesn't exist for 2.2 for the Epic. One wouldn't be released until 2.2 officially comes out.
[Epic 4G Android Development] msponsler:
No, it doesn't exist officially from samsung. But others have 2.6.3x running on 2.2 mods.

Perhaps incorrectly, I'm taking a standard linux approach to this. Granted andriod is a different beast, but 15 years of professional linux administration has me approaching this a certain way.

And protoss.
[Epic 4G Android Development] skeeterslint:
The kernel thats being used with cm is for now just a repacked version of DK28's kernel.
[Epic 4G Android Development] schnowdapowda:
@ OP. There's a guy working on a gingerbread port for the epic based off the nexus s. Tmillar08 I believe. You should get in touch with him he's been working on it since the new nexus dropped.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mcdader:
Not sure where to put this sorry if it is in wrong place. Rep at ces says froyo is in carriers hands and 2.3 has been seen on epic. Rep doubts carriers will release it, but hopes carriers will go straight to 2.3. Said with new phones coming out with 2.3 the carriers don't want to release updates to improve sales of new devices.
[Epic 4G Android Development] heathmcabee:
Makes total sense, and sadly could be true. Just the way it goes with companys that wanna make a profit and not please their customer base.

On the bright side, these guys are good at what they do and we should see a 2.3 release something soon!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Whosdaman:
Please stay on topic.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evoguru:
thanks for the pm.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Leviuqse:
Hi, first..check your PM

second..did you also back up the aaa and ha secret keys from your evo and restore them in your epic?

do you have the 3g symbol? or just the signal bars??
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] usarmy89delta:
I have the same problem. I just PM you and then saw this. I have the bars but not the 3g icon. And when I try to make a call it says "your account could not be validated". I dont know what to do. At this point I have been in this situation for about 2 weeks. Should I turn the Incognito back on?

Any help would be great.

Thanks in advance,

JR
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C-4Nati:
I have no clue how to do these such things, and before someone links me to a tutorial how to please I really don't have a ton of time between work and children to learn so I would appreciate it tremendously if someone could. Maybe a donation for it, im running the black froyo theme with launcher pro and was wondering if someone could make little androids in black and grey, one holding an enevelope for messages, one holding a globe for internet, one holding a phone and one holding the contact icon so I can change the launcher icons to them. Im sure a lot of people would use them. Thanks!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] }{Alienz}{:
Ooh not a bad idea actually. You just want launcher pro icons for the dock correct? This should not be terribly difficult with Photoshop and some time :)

My only concern is icons have to be small so I'm not sure if the little android guy will be too visible in there considering you also have to include the actual icon: mail, phone, internet, etc.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C-4Nati:
Well I've actually seen a screen shot of someones launcher with the icons in green but I have no idea where I saw them because its been a while since I seen them. They actually looked pretty good.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C-4Nati:
Bump
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] b_wat:
I was searching a couple different forums but havent found anything that Im looking for so maybe somebody here can help. I was wondering how to lower the voltage on the incredible is there an app like JRummy made for the droidx/droid2 any help would be greatly appreciated thank you in advance
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pons:
You generally have to flash an under voted kernel.
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] kenblat:
just google for 1.17.4 busybox zip and copy the busybox file to /system/xbin (even replace the busybox @ /systme/bin as well but still 1.14.1) but titanium still yell out that mine still @ 1.14.1 ????? :confused: It's weird, using the firmware from precurse my phone already @ 1.17.1.

Anybody here can manually update the busybox to the latest version?

TIA
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] s3th.g3ck9:
TB is using 1.17.1. This can be installated in TB itself, clicking on "Problems?" or with Stericson Busy Boy Installer.
[Galaxy 3 Themes and Apps] jsamant:
What is the latest ver of busy box.
[EVO 4G General] Visionikz03:
this is not question just posting a weird situation that happened to me earlier... i have the latest MikFroyo installed that includes the JS power control bar in the pull down menu... well everything was fine beforehand and i was reading up on how to mod it to add/remove toggle switches. So i went about making the changes but didnt make a nandroid thinking this was a simple change and should be fine and when i rebooting low and behond every app i had downloaded was gone or at least in the app drawer(still showed in settings-manage apps). I don't use apps2sd(my sd card was not formatted for it either) and the phone kept saying the memory card was "unexpectedly removed" even though it was clearly still mounted in the phone... The modification worked miraculously but then i removed the mod i added to see if it would revert back but of course that didn't fix it so i just bit my tongue as i reformatted my sd card and phone which of course had only one minor important thing on it... my NFS Shift game progress!!!! U live and u learn i guess... anyhow wish i knew wat the hell gave my phone alzheimers lol...
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
Bad flash, it happens. Its happened to me a few times. Thats what nandroid is for, and its a good idea to back up your sd sometimes.
[EVO 4G General] HondaCop:
Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
Pahahahaha! :cool:
[Galaxy Tab General] slickb:
I've been reading a lot of the threads and am getting a bit confused.

I want to pick up a galaxy tab from ebay for use in the Philippines where the 3g bandwidth is 2100 and GSM is 900/1800. I want SMS, voice and 3G functionalities. Should i get the AT&T or T-mobile version? Or it doesn't matter?

Based on what i've read, the AT&T can be flashed to make calls and have 1900/850 WCDMA. Is 2100 included but not used by AT&T or does this process only provide 1900/850 WCDMA coverage?

There have also been people who've successfully gotten voice + 3G on 2100 on china and israel with the T-mobile version.

Which do i need, the t-mobile or at&t tab? Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
[G Tablet General] XANAVirus:
Okay, I saw a few of the related thresds and I can't seem to get this fixed. Root Explorer does not show in my Market so I can't get that.

I can't do anything on my GTablet, it just force closes with that error right back to the home screen and then force closes again.

If I can, I'd love to not have to wipe data (or reflash either). I can't use Titantium Backup since it force closes at the home screen.

Any suggstions?
[G Tablet General] jswinner:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=886972
[G Tablet General] OriginalHardwyre:
Yeah, I had the same problem on one of my two G-tablets.

I ended up being able to use Titanium Backup and wipe my contacts data tho.
[G Tablet General] XANAVirus:
I got it fixed. Clockwork Mod Recovery and its 'backups' feature is awesome. :)

I did have to reconfigure all my apps, though, because my backup was after I'd downloaded them but not ran them for the first time. That took awhile, but as soon as I finished I made a backup of that so I won't have to set them up again.
[G Tablet General] lsu205:
so you ran titanium backup and just wipe the data for the contacts app?
[G Tablet General] lsu205:
Thanks. I figured out how to wipe with titanium (did email contacts and settings as those gave a blank screen.. Good as new (and enhanced with the TNT enhancement pack)
[EVO 4G Accessories] Flonkas:
Sorry if this has been asked before. I am looking for a full clear invisible body skin for my evo. I dont like using a case but I dont want to be bare naked lol. So if you have experience with one or you know which are good can you please let me know. Thanks guys:)
[EVO 4G Accessories] #Winning#:
Tpu Cases would probably be your best bet. I currently have a clear Tpu case that was made by a member here on XDA. You can go that route or there is also one that HTC manufactures as well, I just ordered it!

http://store.everythingandroid.org/htc-tpu-skin-case/4A54A6905.htm
[EVO 4G Accessories] Flonkas:
Looks like a nice product however I already have a tpu case and it makes the phone feel cheap for me and I just generally dont like cases. I have the clear lux argyle case, check it out it's not bad for a case.
[EVO 4G Accessories] twin001:
try Wrapsol, I have used it on my Hero and my EVO. wrapsol.com.

Google "wrapsol coupon code" and you can get some money off too.
[EVO 4G Accessories] *evo4me2*:
If you don't mind the cost, I love my Steinheil Incredible Shield. Best accessory I've bought so far. The body protection film feels just the slightest bit grippy to me which keeps the oil off you hands from making the phone slippery, and the screen protector is crystal clear and smooth as glass, and doesn't affect the touch screen sensitivity. The Incredible Shield comes with both the body and screen films. I don't have enough posts to post the link, but I'll PM it to you
[EVO 4G Accessories] Sir Tony:
First post here, been lurking for awhile. I personally like the skins offered by Best Skins Ever. They are $7.99, fit perfectly, no "orange peeling", and offers protection for the front screen, battery cover, kickstand, camera lens, and all four sides of the phone. I've used the InvisibleShield before and I feel that it is too thick, too much drag on the screen. The BSE provides better protection without the drag.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Vandelay007:
Invisishield is pretty sweet too....you can get it for just the screen or the entire phone...I had it on my hero so I had to have it on my evo too....
[EVO 4G Accessories] DooneyInThaA:
Can't go wrong with the INVISIBLESHIELD. Plus u get a lifetime warranty
[EVO 4G Accessories] nck4857:
I have the Zagg INvisibleSheild and I like it.. It has a different feel to it than just the screen, but for me it feels better.. I got mine at Bestbuy, just have them pricematch ZAGG so you don't get ripped off (as bad)..
[EVO 4G Accessories] Vandelay007:
Yeah....when I got mine over my whole phone best buy was having a $1 install special
[EVO 4G Accessories] LudoGris:
Check out my signature for a great option. And since they are new they are selling them very cheap! I have only had one on it for the last 5-6 months now.
[EVO 4G Accessories] CCallahan:
Stealth Guards.......pretty much the same thing as InvisibleShield but FREE.

I ordered one for all my phones. Just pay the $2.?? s/h. Well worth it.

http://www.stealthguards.com/