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[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Thanks for being supportive :D

EDIT: Please note that currently both screens are actually displaying 'live' memory, not internal memory usage. This last one requires root access, but the screen will be available in a future release, showing which app is using what.

For now I'm working on various improvements: new CPU % sorting, CPU settings (governor+frequencies), better auto-kill options.

The internal memory screen will come after those.
[Android Apps and Games] MKairys:
This is fun!

I was curious about the relative cost of running Process Monitor's GUI. All the dynamically sorting process lists I have seen require a good chunk of the CPU themselves just for the GUI. I'm also curious about comparisons with SystemPanel, which I have used for a long time. Here's what I did:

10-minute interval with PM open and display on, SP in background (CPU%)

PM	1.7

SP	24.0

10-minute interval with SP open and display on, PM in background (CPU%)

PM	18.0

SP	0.5

12-hour interval, overnight display off

PM	4.0

SP	1.6

So I would say PM's GUI is much more efficient (the SP list can't even be sorted dynamically) but SP is more efficient at collecting data in the background.

SP also has a more polished interface to historical data, with a time range selector for the graphs, but it doesn't have the "start/stop recorder" feature which is so valuable when wanting to test a particular condition. I think that's a fair tradeoff for maybe a little more CPU when collecting.

And since the raw data is readily available, how about reports? Spreadsheet generation? Cross-sample comparisons?

The other enhancement I would like to see is a scheduler service to run samples at repeated intervals, and give them names. This could be the best system app ever!
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Well, it's time I look into saving more CPU collecting data in the background :)

By the way, did you also record the CPU frequency in your tests?

That makes a few features/improvements to work on for future updates :D thanks a lot for the tips!

Did you use the 2-finger zoom on the graphs and then long-press to actually crop the data to what's visible?
[Android Apps and Games] zeppelinrox:
Were they both monitoring at the same rate in these tests... say 1 minute apart for example?

Also, that 18% doesn't look right at all... PM has a very small footprint.

PM is at 18% cpu for 10 minutes but down to 4% for 12 hours... it does not compute... ;)

Anyway, it's probably just me but SP makes my eyes bleed lol
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
I took a recording the other day, and it showed PM was using less than 0.65% of CPU with a CPU frequency stuck at 245MHz (46.37% of 1.39%)! Will be lower with higher frequencies!

Attached is a screen-shot of the recording. You can see it uses less than 0.6 seconds of CPU in each sample taken every 60 seconds

With default frequency of 998MHz it was less then 0.2 seconds every minute.

EDIT: Tested cpu usage while using the UI (with the upcoming version) and it's more around 6% than 18% indeed while refreshing every 3 seconds! Added screenshot of the UI. But surely % depends on the CPU so I should test again System Panel, unfortunately SP doesn't show CPU% on the main screen, and doesn't allow changing refresh rates (seems every 10 seconds?).
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Thanks,

Added the following to the TODO list:

- 'no icon' option.

- load BMW logs and display mA graphs along CPU consumption in analyzer

New auto-kill options have been added in the last update, replacing old settings (NB: old auto-kill settings are lost during update).
[Android Apps and Games] Testingchip:
Cool little app. Also replaced system panel with this. Very functional and ready to set up. Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] Register_:
Hi,

I try to pin point battery drain on my Samsung Note.

Is there a way to know what's under "Android System" (In french "Système Android"). Because the battery is loosing 150/200mA and the this is what using the most the CPU.

Regards,

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Another weird fact.

I put on USB charging and the BMW was getting -342mA, I change to the Samsung charger (1000mA/h) and the reading was +116mA.

I put Debug Mode Off and it jumped to +746mA

Is it logical (captain) ?

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
What debug mode you're talking about? The Android USB debug mode? Are you on custom ROM? Maybe this debug mode is a battery killer?
[Android Apps and Games] Register_:
Hi,

Thanks for your answer.

It's a stock ROM and it's the phone debug mode (parameters > application > debug).

I buy the pro versions (widget and tuner) and use the notification bar. As for the widget what is the refresh rate of the mA measures? The notification seems to blink every minutes but the value is changing only, i think every 5min. Is it linked to the history refresh time?

Is it possible to have a different time for the notification than for the history? When i use the widget or notification icon to watch application consumption the lag can be misleading. I understand that for the percentage it's not crucial but for the current measures it's more important (for me). But maybe I missed something?

Edit :

The measure refresh seems to occur each two minutes.

I searched in settings "Current mA data refresh frequency" but can find only history (which is set at 5min)

Regards
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
The widgets and notifications are automatically refreshed when new data is available.

%, mV and temp are provided by Android OS when a change occurs.

mA is taken from Android kernel at an optimized rate depending on phone's hardware. That is every minute on phone with hardware mA measures, and when % changes (hence mA can be calculated) on phones without such hardware.

Interesting to see this debug mode cause battery drain. Always enabled on my devices, I never had such issue.
[Android Apps and Games] Register_:
Thanks,

It seems that the Galaxy Note did not measure the real mA. So the estimation could be wrong?

For the debug my problem seems to be worth when it's on. And problem started to appear when I started using it to debug an app. But it's the same time FreeMobile had a big outage and since they seems to have sporadic roaming problem. People are complaining of bad battery performance since they switch to Free.

The pattern I got is I charged to 100% let it overnight, on the morning the measured intensity is 2mA. It stay at this level even with the screen on and basic operations like going to setting, moving icons...

Then I start wifi and go to internet using Google reader and Dolphin. I topped between 300 an 600mA when i shut down wifi and the apps it goes back to 100/120mA and sometimes stay there, or decrease to 40mA. But before it was decreasing to 30mA- (even to 10mA), but never stayed at around 100mA+.

And all the service killing can't seems to change the situation.

I join you two graphs, the first is one of my worst situation. The second is a more normal one. Above the % sign i was using the phone (vertical drain) and after the drain stay at a lower rate.

I'm a little lost to find what changed... And before i could let the Wifi on without more drainage.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
The estimates are actually calculated based on % change, the same as calculating %/h drain. So it's as accurate as the % data. So mA will not change as quickly as with real measures. It will often stay at 0mA until the first % drop after unplugging the phone.

The first graph definitely shows a constant drain in standby. At the end of it I can see low drain though, what was changed then? all radio off?
[Android Apps and Games] Register_:
Ok, thanks. It's weird that on modern phone the hardware measure is not always choosed.

I think its Sunday, after trying several attempt like killing all on tuner, stop net connections (Plane Mode), restart the phone, with no result that I remembered the phone being on debug mode. Set to off... nothing (didn't wait too long as I was thinking that the widget refresh was immediate -more or less) restart the phone and bam: drain drained :p

It's look like if I start wifi connection, the battery start to drain an never goes back to lower values.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Is it a custom ROM/kernel that you have drain from wifi? Did you look at custom kernels, maybe some of them fix that issue.
[Android Apps and Games] Register_:
It's a stock ROM seems that the situation has stabilised. I stopped a app which has never been a problem, FreeWifi (which connects to Free hotspot). And i try to l kill social hub every time i can.

I have noticed also that some times the measure of current have 5 to 7 minutes delay.

This morning I start using the device just before 7:00AM (google reader/dolphin) and the mA stays at 2mA until 7:07AM (343mA). I stooped using the apps and it takes 10 to go back to 22mA.

Its like the reading is an average of values taken on an certain period of time lake 10 or 15min.
[Android Apps and Games] the_real_fosgate:
Hello,

i have got the following problem.

I use System Tuner Pro with my HTC Sensation on IC 5.1.7 with Bricked Kernel.

With System Tuner Pro I can controll cpu frequency und Govoner.

But after a restart the cpu frequency was not saved :-(

Can you tell me, what went wrong?

I tried a lot in boot settings - Re-apply CPU settings (init.d script, on boot completed) ... but nothing worked for me.

Bye

Robert
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
This problem is usually due to another app (or the kernel itself) controlling CPU settings and overriding the app settings.

Some users have also reported some issues with the app settings caused by permission issues: the app has no permission to write its own settings.

Did you try reinstalling the app clean (without restore)?
[Android Apps and Games] the_real_fosgate:
Hi,

I installed the app from market without restoring any data.

I will try a few things, and tell you.

Bye

Robert
[Android Apps and Games] Register_:
Hi,

In the graphs, is it possible to have a moving grid with al line difference between 24h00 mark and 12h00 mark. Because with fixed grid you have to move around to find times.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Asked many times, it's time I implement it! ;) Hopefully in next update.

Thanks for your patience.
[Android Apps and Games] stuart0001:
When looking at CPU times the time units are in different columns for different frequencies which can make it a little confusing to read. Any chance of keeping them aligned please.

I see it only shows the ms value if the time is below a certain amount. Perhaps drop the ms altogether as I can't imagine anyone has a need for that level of precision
[Android Apps and Games] Braneless:
Ram management settings rarely survive reboots, even when set to restore upon boot or via init.d

I'd say my chosen setting sticks 1 time out of 10 reboots. Running CM9 on my cdma Nexus. Anyone else experiencing this?
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Actually the ms value was requested by many users, hence the compromise to remove it above a certain time.

When you say alignement you mean the offset caused by that ms value not always being visible? Or the CPU cores columns not being visible at all times?

I had the same issue on the Galaxy Nexus running some custom ROMs. Though it's not very consistent so I'm trying to apply the settings with some delays to ensure the kernel/ROM has done its things before the app overrides them.
[Android Apps and Games] :
Hi 3c :),

Your app is always perfect;)

I just noticed that since the last updates the task manager takes a little more time to view the applications running...before it was almost immediate now it takes about 2 "little" seconds :confused:

I'm running the same rom/kernel since a few updates of your app (Gnex/LiquidSmooth rom/Glados kernel).

I tested different settings:stock kernel/Glados-Francisco-Morfic kernel/Overclock-min CPU freq/etc...Nothing seems help the lower load of the task manager,whether by the widget or directly by the app...

If you want some more details...

Merci beaucoup par avance ;)
[Android Apps and Games] dertester123:
I see this behavior too ..

The more apps the longer it takes. 40 apps nearly take 5 seconds .. After kill all its very quick.. No big deal here just wanted to confirm

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[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
That's odd behavior, confused too. Did you sort the app by memory usage? This mode indeed takes a little more time than the others, gathering "real" memory usage is more complex than retrieving CPU time.

Could this be the actual issue?
[Android Apps and Games] :
Hi,

Yes it's by memory used but it's the same thing with Cpu Time,CPU %,etc...

When I open the task manager I did not have 40 apps but 10-15 maximum...Actually for example 7 apps running,it takes 2 seconds to be displayed.

It's not a big deal,it's just since 4 or 5 update,before it was faster and I have not changed any settings.

Thanks :)
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
That's odd, I tried with CPU%, and first opening took 1 or 2 seconds. Then closed, reopened, apps displayed immediately. I tried while showing excluded apps and system apps, no lag. Then displaying also kernel processes, the lag was 1 second max.

Then switching to memory display, got a 2 seconds lag, this one will be hard to avoid except first showing RSS memory which includes shared memory and does not fully reflect actual memory used.

In any case, I had to improve the synchronization between the display and the data update because it could crash the app in rare circumstances, I expect this is the cause of the lags you experience.

I'll work on this to see how I can improve this. Thanks for letting me know.
[Android Apps and Games] davidwyl:
hard to find any help or tutorial for this apps online.

my problem is how to save the CPU, SD, Auto-kill setting?

everytime i restart my phone the value jump back to phone default setting..

in Boot Setting changed Re-apply sd tweak,Re-apply memory limits, Re-apply CPU setting to

On boot completed

but all the value still jump back to phone default value...:confused:

anyone help?? :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] Braneless:
Are you running a stock rom? You'll need a custom rom and kernel that support init.d scripts in order to retain your settings across reboots.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
What phone have you got?

Can you post the URL to the kernel/ROM you're using? Or both Stock?

Can you send a 'support request' from the app settings, I'll take it from there. Might need your help investigating why it doesn stick with the 'On boot completed' option.

Do you have a HTC Sensation/EvoXX phone?
[Android Apps and Games] davidwyl:
im using google nexus one,

Rom: cyanogenmod 7.1.0-N1

kernel version: 2.6.37.6-cynogenmod-01509-g8913be8shade@toxgene#1

will sent u the support request.
[Android Apps and Games] thinh182009:
intall htc magic??
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Not sure what you mean? If the app can be installed on a HTC Magic or installing an app called HTC Magic???

The app supports *any* devices... So far never found an incompatible device.

The only hard part is supporting the various kernels/ROMs and being careful with conflicts with other tweaking app/scripts, when using the app tweaks.
[Android Apps and Games] schrochem:
I tried to search the thread but was having difficulty finding my question.

I 'think' I got sytem tuner pro to do this on my tbolt but can't remember.

Can I create a backup or list of my apps that I can use later for google play?

More specifically, I'd like to have that list so when I flash a new rom I can just multi-select a bunch of my apps and have them download from google play.

I don't want to restore the app from system tuner or restore data.

I want a clean install from google play.

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Never been a feature of the app. Though Google Play does that for you on first install if you select to synchronize your phones data with Google (which is the default).

As it is part of Google Play, not sure it's relevant to add such feature.
[Android Apps and Games] schrochem:
Thanks Cedric,

I know it lists all my apps but I've never seen where I can multi select a bunch of them. I did see it on one rom back on the tbolt and asked about it but never heard....

I just like to do fresh installs and load settings from backup. It's always cleaner and leads to less problems.

I'd love to flash a rom, sync to google, get on wifi, select all the apps I want (at the time ;) ) and start downloading (probably walk away for awhile.....)

Last rom I had to go in and individually download each app. PITA
[Android Apps and Games] garywojdan81:
Anyone else getting a force close after backing out of the tweaks menu? On the latest update, btw.

Update: Issue fixed with the latest update, thanks man. This is still my favorite app.
[Android Apps and Games] :
Hi 3c,

I do not know what you changed but with the last update (today) this "issue" (not really a big problem) is gone :)

Setting the task-manager/List view settings/Sort process by Memory Used like before,now the task-manager open faster :eek::);),like a few updates ago...

I had not reposted my feedback before because it was the same (we will not repeat yourself 10 times the same thing),but here there is a big improvement...Does not change anything for that,I mean the improvement when you click on the widget->task-manager->memory used by apps :D

Thanks!;)

Edit:just one thing,it would be possible to integrate the CPU temperature in the notification bar?Directly via the app or a package like CPU load/freq...

Or it would take too much resource?

:)
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Glad to hear, not sure what I really changed (I'll check for knowledge), but I'm going through the whole app and improving code for better performance.

There are now 4 icon packs for temperature in the notification bar, with optional graphic time-line and 2 optional alarms (in-app paid option) that can trigger a popup message on top of every screen with a vibration or sound.

Let me know what you think of these new packs ;)

EDIT: The resources it will consume are no more than existing packs, though the refresh rate will have a direct impact on CPU usage, hence battery.
[Android Apps and Games] :
Re,

Moi non plus je ne sais pas ce que tu as changé mais ça marche LOL :D,en tout cas c'est parfait ;)là quand j'ouvre le task-manager (depuis le widget avec la consommation en RAM par applications) ça s'affiche direct,pas de temps de chargement,PLUS de temps de chargement.

Par contre je dois être aveugle...Où sont les icônes pour la température CPU dans la barre de notif',quand je vais sur le market je n'ai que CPU load/frequency/Full et white/green/black...

Je les ai toutes installées et testées...Je n'ai pas la température CPU dans ma barre de notif :confused:

Par contre CPU load/freq fonctionne,mais dans les paramètres de notifications dans System Tuner je n'ai rien de relatif à la température...J'ai loûpé un truc???

Si tu pouvais m'aiguiller...merci!!!

Je ne suis pas manchot mais là je sèche...:D

Merci!

Sorry for the French post,here the Google Translation:
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Well, you do have the temperature reported in the CPU screen, right?

If so there should not be a problem downloading the icon packs.

Can you try clearing Market app's cache and trying again, I suppose the list of icons is not actually refreshing, just using cache info.

Here are all the packs: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=ccc71.pmw.icons&c=apps

The temperature icons are the last 4 at the bottom of the list. You can probably install them from the Web.
[Android Apps and Games] :
Re,

This is strange...

Yes I see the CPU temp in System Tuner,both inside the app/widget...

Thanks for your link,never see this pack for the CPU temp in the Play Store :confused:

Ok,in the Play Store from my phone (wipe data/cache then reboot) I do not always see them :confused:

With your link,I see them with my PC but...:

:confused::mad:

Play Store from my PC: ok I see them but can't download...

Play Store from my phone:don't see them...

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Re,

Ok,finally got it from the Play Store (re-try it and it works,I do not know what happened before this),so it's pretty good...

But I encounter another issue...I can't set an alarm :confused: :

:confused:

GSM Gnex/LiquidSmooth ROM based on 4.0.4/Glados kernel...

Reboot...same issue...
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
There seem to be lots of issues around the Play Store and those 4 icon packs! When I first published them I was experiencing the same kind of intermittent errors as if depending on which Google's server was delivering the content, those packs were not always available!

Will contact Google asap so they can fix this. Thanks for your feedback. The alarms depends on the Play Store as well (in-app purchase).
[Android Apps and Games] MKairys:
Question about freezing

If an app is frozen it is not also needed to uncheck it in startup, correct?
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Correct, frozen apps are "like" uninstalled, can't be used at all.
[Android Apps and Games] ImgBurn:
3c

Love the apps...:D

Got a few question's? I like to freeze apps with System Tuner Pro. Work's well except Google Market every reboot it gets unfrozen have to refreeze. Also I been meaning to ask whats-up with pm.jar in System Tuner Pro Started In v1.5.2 .

Thanks for the help & Info
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
That's very strange Market gets unfrozen on reboots. It usually happens when an app is updated only. Maybe the app was updated and it looked as if unfrozen on reboot?

Sorry for the pm.jar, it's a test left-over, will remove it in next update. I was trying to get a standard pm.jar that could be used on any Android OS. But it didn't actually help solve compatibility issues with the various versions. I still had to make different code for different versions of Android. Thanks for letting me know, forgot about it!
[Android Apps and Games] ImgBurn:
Hi 3c,

Thanks for the quick response. :D

On the unfreezing of the market just unfreezes upon a reboot (It's also unchecked in Startup's) Nothing else that I have frozen does, nothing updated at the time of reboot. I just like to keep the market frozen as to control when an update occurs. Sometimes a new version is something I don't need or want or has bad review's. Anyway is there something else I need to do to keep it from unfreezing itself?

Thank You, Your Friend ImgBurn:)
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
I've just tested this and indeed only Google Market unfreeze itself!

Tried disabling most app events but didn't help, Google Play even restarts on boot.

Not sure what they did, but the app is tricking the system.

EDIT: Reproduced on Android 4.0.4 and 2.3.6 :(
[Android Apps and Games] ImgBurn:
3c,

Thanks for the Info no biggy though it was Google:(. I just like to have control over my computing environment. That's what make's your program's so great you give that back to the end user and I thank you for that. If there is anything I can do to help you don't hesitate to ask.

God bless take care will talk again:)
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
A user has reported preventing updates by freezing the download manager service. Haven't tried yet, but that could be a valid work-around.
[Android Apps and Games] starbase64:
@3c

pls add core control for HTC One X.

cores online: 2 or 3 or 4 with boot settings

cheers

starbase64
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
What do you mean core control? Individual core control to set freq/gov independently or forcing all cores online? To force all cores, I'm testing a new method, but it will not work on all kernels, will test on the One X if I can make it work.
[Android Apps and Games] starbase64:
i mean 2 cores only online (or 3 or 4)