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[Android Apps and Games] RussianBear:
could you address my issue, please:

if i use the "sensation" method of monitoring, it does work, but the readings with the screen off are not correct (too high). if i use the automatic method, i get about 2mA drain with the screen off (which is correct), but a green 0mA whenever the screen is on.
[Android Apps and Games] jastop:
no worries and a feature idea

It's a very minor issue, same thing has happened to me also.

I had a thought on additional metrics that could be used to predict battery life. I'm finding that my new phones' battery life are very susceptible to changes in wireless coverage (4G/3G/Voice Only/No coverage) and signal strength (high, normal, low, unusable). I am speculating that the high "Android OS" battery usage is partially related to the device managing the connections.

Have you thought about the possibility of using coverage and signal for estimating battery life?
[Android Apps and Games] ephestione:
Confirm that even unchecking uninterrupted logging, the logging takes place even during sleep.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
That would be interesting indeed, maybe recording signal strength as an option, then analyzing the results could help determine a mapping from signal strength to standby mA, and then adjusting the estimates based on the additional loss.

Yes, it simply shows another app or kernel process is waking up the device! The expected results without those app/processes is to have big holes in the history file while in standby! I remember testing this at the beginning of this app on a HD2 and I definitely had those huge history gaps.
[Android Apps and Games] Tokl:
Hmm,

on my Sensation with Android Revolution HD ROM i have sometimes big gaps (about 20) in the History while 10Mins. of logging

(when im able to let my Fingers off the device :D),

but a (very little) better Battery Livetime ;)

See Screenshot:

But at my HD2 with ACA ROM the Gaps are normally not more than 2-3 gaps by 10Mins Logging...

Greetz Tokl
[Android Apps and Games] jastop:
Getting a more accurate estimation?

I noticed that my Galaxy Nexus sometimes consumes a significant amount of power just after starting up. It seems logical to assume that this is a combination of the after boot media scan, gmail mail and calendar sync, g+ sync, etc. In my case the battery drops to somewhere between 94% and 98% depending on the circumstance.

I was wondering if it would make sense to have the "using average since (un)plug" estimation calculate the average ignoring this initial period. Maybe after a configured period of start time following boot, or after a period of CPU idle immediately following boot, or maybe even after the first interval sleep following boot and unplug.

Would the global estimation be more accurate?
[Android Apps and Games] shortskoolbus:
Hi guys, i just bought BMW pro and trying to troubleshoot some fast battery drain on my Galaxy Skyrocket...

Sorry if this is already answered in an earlier post, but i couldnt comb through the 24 pages to see if it's in there.

I'm trying to understand the reading in the logs, let's say it says -10 mAh and i'm logging every 5 minutes. Whats the rate of that drain? is it per hour? Also, what do the last two columns represent in the log?

I've read all the help pages on the website but no explanation i could find.

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] RussianBear:
it's not per hour, unless it's been constantly at -10ma for that hour. It's like a snapshot of your current drain at that particular moment that you designate (5 minutes, 10, whatever). last two? the temperature of your battery and the battery's capacity, iirc.
[Android Apps and Games] shortskoolbus:
Thanks, that's what i meant. So it's a rate at given a time if i were to continue the same consumption for one hour.

:)

The last two are usually 0 0, but sometimes i see a 2 or a 1 in the second to last column. The Capacity and temperature are the two columns even before the last two.
[Android Apps and Games] RussianBear:
oh, just looked at mine. no clue, mine have 0,1,2. maybe core(s) activity?
[Android Apps and Games] 7_michel:
For explanation of the two last digits see here http://www.3c71.com/android/?q=node/90
[Android Apps and Games] RussianBear:
thanks, man!

for lazy people :D
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Hello I wouldn't worry to much about mV fluctuations, though your readings looks counter-intuitive, eg drop of % should match a drop of mV, but you have the opposite!?
[Android Apps and Games] RussianBear:
same with my sensation on stock kernel and insert coin's latest gb build.
[Android Apps and Games] ephestione:
I get mV readings way more dynamic than yours... with time, I learned not to care about it anymore :rolleyes:
[Android Apps and Games] zx34:
Thanks for Battery Monitor Widget pro. v. 2.0.4. It is match appreciated. But I think it is a bug in the widget backgrounds, like hidden sense 3 style, it's shows ICS background :confused:

●● █ ELEGANCIA Rom Series™ █ ●● Bricked-Kernel ● HTC Sensation Z710e ●●
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Are you sure, cause I tried changing background to hidden sense 3 and others, it works well. Can you try changing the background on that widget, and alternatively adding a new widget? It could be a resource ID having changed between versions causing this on existing widgets.

EDIT: Found the issue, only when using application in English. Fixed in 2.0.5. Sorry.
[Android Apps and Games] zx34:
No problem. Looking forward to next update.... :p

Edit: all OK in v 2.0.5. Thanks..... :thumbup:

●● █ ELEGANCIA Rom Series™ █ ●● Bricked-Kernel ● HTC Sensation Z710e ●●
[Android Apps and Games] jcsy:
im actually wondering whether this app, can actually monitor HTC EVO 3D (GSM) -mA drains

i know its unaccurate, especially like -360MA drains during idle but doesnt actually use tat much, probably -150MA is more accurate but about 95% wrong most of the time

i have the battery logs, if that might help

or what can i do to help getting correct numbers for drainage on my EVO 3D?

under settings > monitoring , i have tried :

Auto discovery

HTC EVO / EVO 3D

with and without MA corrections

any other ideas?

I have filed a support request a moment ago as well :)
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
150mA during idle is still wrong, should be between 5-10mA.

However considering the buggy battery driver from HTC (now in all recent phones) the mA readings in standby (and only that one!) is incorrect! As if they did it on purpose.

This has become a support knightmare, thanks to HTC! I even bought those crap phones and spent countless hours trying to find a solution, investigating the kernel source code and contacting HTC (in vain as they either don't reply and send you off with crap answer: for example "go to this dev site and ask your question to a dev", the link taking you to the source code download page). Sorry had to vent a little.

Anyway, the best I can offer is to activate the 'mA corrections' and run full overnight standby. Doing so will let the app adjust the mA based on % evolution.
[Android Apps and Games] jcsy:
i fully understand your frustration, especially when you see such replies from HTC.

i have been switching kernels, switching ROM's and everything to isolate where the problem lied, before I posted this in.

i was extremely confident that there must be a problem in the sensors, or now i know, drivers in the code which detect wrong utilization. I guess i will never know what exactly are the -MA readings for my EVO(3D)

knowing you have purchased even the Sensation, and Evo to diagnose this problem and identify the code I am aware that you have tried your best to look into the problem. I applaud your actions.

I looked into (Current Widget) logs and -mA drain logs and readings to see and it was the same as your app, so definitely the problem lied in the drivers and sensors reading these drains.

however, I think the POSITIVE (charging) +MA are accurate, in the ranges from +850 (screen on) to +1000 (screen off) all the way up to 90%, where it trickle charges at correct amounts. I some what believe, only the -MA are giving problems :D

anyways, i looked into

/sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_attr_text

but none of the values seem useful
[Android Apps and Games] RussianBear:
have you tried all the reporting methods? (automatic, estimated, etc.)
[Android Apps and Games] jcsy:
i have tried all, usually reporting really off numbers

a moment, its -69MA (lowest i've got, to -1mA) which is after a reboot

can totally understand both situations, since by looking at the % and voltage , its something like this ;

10:45PM 4200mv 80%

10:46PM 4250mv 80% (voltage went up)

10:47PM 4180mv 78% (voltage went down, % went down by 2)

this happens throughout, whereby the ROM itself drops % in wrong numbers and sometimes the voltages returned fluctuate REALLY BADLY till voltage sometimes can actually increase

For example, the battery % can stick at 80% for 15 minutes (heavy use) and the voltage from 4200mv keeps going up to 4250mV and back down to 4200mv in between

I have tried both Overriding Automatic discovery and HTCEVO3D, and MA corrections :(

Like 3C said, i should probably leave it a whole day on MA Corrections, and let the app automatically adjust & calculate and approximate
[Android Apps and Games] RussianBear:
^^ do that and report back :)
[Android Apps and Games] jcsy:
surely will :)

already on that now at the moment and will drain completely starting tonight :)

its 11PM :)
[Android Apps and Games] ilovemeow:
hi 3c, :) just bought this app and system tuner, thats was great:) (before was using lite version)

anyway, is there any setting for ma retrieval for custom rom and custom kernel ( with extended battery)?

i got an extended battery(3500mah) for my evo3d gsm recently

and it estimated the mah was 6000mah at the 1st time, 2400mah at the 2nd, and 4500mah at the 3rd time,

so should i use Evo3d for the retrieval method? or estimate or automatic by itself? thanks :)
[Android Apps and Games] jcsy:
if you read 5 posts above you, u would probably understand whats been going thru the HTC EVO3D

anyways, why dont you MANUALLY set the MAH of the extended battery?

on another note, use ESTIMATE and HTC EVO 3D (closest i got to -34ma) which is as accurate as I can get.

anyways, the 3500 battery on EVO3D makes the phone much bigger?
[Android Apps and Games] ilovemeow:
ya, i read it, and calibrate the battery, i've found the %of the battery is normal during charging from 1-98%, and it took ~1hr for 99%->100%

i didnt try for manual mah setting , coz i m not sure is there any problem, and is that battery exactlly 3500mah, thats y i wanna check by this app :)

ya , but acceptable, ~1mm thicker

http://www.tvc-mall.com/details/HTC...ial-Battery-Door-Cover-3500mAh-BATY-EVO3D-01/
[Android Apps and Games] jcsy:
i noticed on default stock battery, 1730mah, it takes nearly 45 minutes from 99% to 100%

usually providing a positive ma of roughly 60-100 during the final minutes to full

if you are playing a game, or using intensively , u will take almost never to reach 100%

on another note, thanks for the link to the battery :)

been looking at a 4000mah model as well..

there is a setting under Monitoring to set manually, and hope that it really is 3500MA :D
[Android Apps and Games] ilovemeow:
ya, but i got this battery in ebay like aud$6, and the 4000mah around 10times more,

if 3500mah is around 3000-3500mah, its worth to get this than 4000 one :D
[Android Apps and Games] RussianBear:
there is an artcicle that compares a bunch of aftermarket batteries for evo and sensation, iirc. most don't even come close to the advertised ratings. you get what you pay for. as long as you're happy, that $6 isn't much to lose either way :)
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Agreed, I tried a bunch of those, and usually they come half the advertised capacity! Last 2 I got where advertized 1900mAh, which the charging cycle confirmed, though they would go from 25% to 0% in 10 minutes (EDIT: 10 minutes in standby)! :(
[Android Apps and Games] terminator1983:
I am new to this app i want to set the values of battery calibration

Ac charger output power

Battery capacity

First page graph is showing these max points on the graph

Voltage mV 4200

Usage mW 13355

Usage mA 3554

I am using this app on motorola atrix with its original battery.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
The charger output power should be written on the AC charger itself. EDIT: value must be entered in milliAmp (for example 1000 for 1Amp).

As for battery capacity, the Atrix comes with a 1880mAh battery and this should be automatically retrieved by the app?
[Android Apps and Games] MKairys:
Missing estimate, please help

Just in the last few weeks my "using battery (dis)charge" estimate has been always "n/a". I have tried clearing estimates and history. Please help: I find this estimate the most useful (I had been using it for months). Samsung Fascinate.
[Android Apps and Games] Marcio366:
Hi. I have Incredible S and I can recommend the method profile for Wildfire. In standby I can get values around 36-38 mA, which is close to reality if you substract 30mA. Maybe 3C could make an experimental profile, which would substract 30mA in standby. What do you think, 3c?

EDIT: I measured the drain and I have to say, that while in use, the mA readings are ACCOURATE (!), but while on standby, it is 30mA higher, so IT COULD HELP A LOT!!! I am using the Wildfire preset!

While on flight mode, it has almost no drain (not measureable), but each minute it has a bump of 150mA for a second. It can cause the BMW while reading mA value (maybe it would be fine to have option to read values in higher intervals).

It was hard to measure standby drain besause the phone is trying to search the signal. It has no signal due to missing back cover with antenna.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
That's odd, can you post a screenshot of the estimates screen?

Also, you can try from that screen to clear the estimates (from the menu)

It is possible to implement, though what happens when measured mA is below 30? I have hundredth reports showing value lower than 30, just a few:

2012/02/02|11:19:32|-21mA|54%|3838mV|34.0ºC|0|0

2012/02/02|11:22:32|-12mA|54%|3838mV|34.0ºC|0|0

2012/02/02|11:26:32|-10mA|54%|3838mV|34.0ºC|0|0

2012/02/11|05:13:46|-28mA|89%|4026mV|25.8ºC|1|0

2012/02/11|05:18:46|-28mA|87%|4018mV|25.8ºC|1|0

2012/02/11|05:23:46|-26mA|86%|4018mV|25.8ºC|1|0

2012/02/11|05:28:46|-21mA|85%|4011mV|25.8ºC|1|0

Special options for applying a ratio or shift will probably be added in the future.

Using higher interval will not improve the measures, but could save battery time. There might be an option to measure mA only before logging it, instead of every minute.

Note however that measures every minute provides the most accurate results: Most kernels update the value every minute with the average consumption for the last minute. So the app gathers all values and calculate the average for the last logging interval (5 minutes by default).
[Android Apps and Games] Marcio366:
These values above can be reached only without Wildfire preset. BUT WITH Wildfire preset you will NEVER get values under 30mA (unless phone on charger).

If you made such an experimental profile (as I mentioned above), it would not be a problem to test and see the results. I could send the log file then.

Yes, the only change would be saved battery time, nothing else. Now I can choose the intervals only from 5 to 60 secs, so it could be increased up to 300 secs with 60 secs by default.
[Android Apps and Games] MKairys:
Glad to hear you say so :) Here is the image.

Yes, I have tried that, also cleared history, rebooted, and have run for several days since, charging on both AC and USB.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Well from the screenshot, I understand that mA readings are constantly 0mA. You need to check the mA retrieval method. Maybe try automatic. In the main screen you should read ...: XX mA. XX not being 0. If you try automatic, and it's 0, try using the phone until a % is dropped/added. If nothing works, you need to use the 'mA support request' option in the monitoring settings. Please add a reference to this thread to the generated report.

Guess I will work on profile options to set a scale and shift. Once I publish the upcoming version with %/h graph and data.

In the last version, you can only choose the history update rate, from 10 seconds to 1800 minutes. If lower than 60 seconds, mA will be recorded at the same interval. If more or equal to 60, mA is measured every 60 seconds. The option will allow recording mA more than 1 minute apart, saving battery time, but lowering precision.

Note that such option will only be available on phones providing real mA readings.
[Android Apps and Games] chantoine:
Hi,

After some reboots, i have problems with the calibration button : it shows un estimated value of ... 2mAh (previously it was about 1800mAh) +-13088% :D and a red text says "la mesure de la capacité nécessite un intervalle de mise à jour de l'historique constant" which is approx. "capacity mesure requires a constant history update interval". I did'nt modify anything in the settings.

This appeared this morning at about 30% charge and a full charge didn't solve the problem.

Thanks.

Christophe
[Android Apps and Games] MKairys:
So... I claim this used to work .. do you think my phone has changed what it is giving you? Are there any other other Fascinate users out there?

I see in the history that in fact mA is always 0, -1, or -2 as far back as it goes, so I guess it is the phone's fault?

I find that it is set to automatic. I tried switching to estimated but no change.

Is that where I'm at now?
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
I'm only saying a setting is wrong. Wasn't sure yet which one.

Not yet, just check the battery capacity in the monitoring settings. If you check the main screen it probably also says '0 / 0 mAh'.

Set the right value (or 0 to reset to default) and it should show the value on the main screen.
[Android Apps and Games] MKairys:
Thankyouthankyouthankyou! The main screen did say 0/0. The capacity value was 0, which didn't seem to be picking up any default. I set it to1500, which I see is supposed to be the rated capacity, and everything works again!
[Android Apps and Games] AtypicalWinter:
I have to say WOW to the last update. Im loving the new history screen. Thanks a lot :-)
[Android Apps and Games] jcsy:
what does all the numbers in the history screen mean?

blue text, drain & charges, xx/yy/zz , yellow text (% and days)

some text I could understand but the rest was really really technical man
[Android Apps and Games] Master_Stewie:
If I use this application, my battery drains very fast.

It's empty within 5 hours.

Anybody else having this problem? I had to remove it because it's not workable for me.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Did you change the history logging rate? What phone have you got? On some phones it can go as low as 10 seconds, which could lead to drain.

Otherwise no way this app can consumes the phone's battery within 5 hours.

Text color is the marker color I suppose, boot markers are blue by default.

Drain shows min/average/max mA or %.

Yellow text for screen-on time draining or charging. The % is the screen-on time vs total time.
[Android Apps and Games] Marcio366:
If only you would, 3c, make the standby offset for unlucky HTC users...
[Android Apps and Games] haifish9999:
I don't know what's wrong? affter install this app and affter fully battery changed the "global estimate" sight is not correctly.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
I'm looking into adding an offset and a ratio to standby drain to cope with similar issues.

Do you mean the remaining discharge time estimates? The value is measured based on previous discharge history, not charge cycles. Estimates are based on usage pattern.
[Android Apps and Games] Nardrone:
Great app shows all the necessary things and to so many interesting statistics

thanks
[Android Apps and Games] dertester123:
Yeah love the new designs too. Also in System tuner(older update) :)

Whats that yellow point and should it be causing the line to move left?

Some suggestions:

I like how you did the system tweaks in system tuner. Navigation on Top and the pages under this while top navigation bar stays.

Maby you could think about making it the same way in battery monitor?

Some kind of consistent style between the two apps?

And swipe between these pages would be awesome :p
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Couldn't see the image, yes it's supposed to move the test to the left.

Yes, I don't like how the access is done so far for 5 tabbed screens with 2 buttons. Kinda awkward.
[Android Apps and Games] dertester123:
Ah sorry dropbox img was a bad idea i think :D

Here again: http://dertester.bplaced.net/bilder/2012-03-17 08.16.10.png
[Android Apps and Games] ewes7777:
:)

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Sent my SGS2
[Android Apps and Games] Onzio:
Great App :cool:
[Android Apps and Games] kire.htc:
I love this app. I am new to Evo 3d and very sad that it isn't work properly on this phone. How to set mA retrieval method on the new version 2.1??? Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Since 2.1, there is now 2 options for Evo 3D in the "mA retrieval method" list. The second one is called "HTC Evo (test)" and should produce better results. This is the default when set to automatic, if kernel is stock-like, eg battery driver is unchanged.

With both options, reports shows accurate charging. It's during drain that results varies widely: Most Evo 3D model will report constant high drain with option 1, whereas some models will have only low drain with option 2. The 'mA corrections' should only be used with first option. The test method is only useful without corrections.

I can only suggest to try both. Remember that mA is refreshed every minute with this phone and mA readings need to be checked in standby and in-use.

Forgot to mention also that on both Evo 3D and Sensation, when switching ROM sometimes the mA reading gets stuck around -5mA! A new flash/ROM usually fixes this, but very annoying.

Feel free to send a "mA support request", I'm trying to gather feedback on this test method.
[Android Apps and Games] jcsy:
For me, automatic and disabled ma corrections yielded wrong -ma during use (really low ma readings)

I'm going to swap over to HTC evo 3d, and see how that one goes.

Then test out HTC evo (test) if it doesn't work

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Sent my new HTC Evolution 3D running ROMeOS UNSENSED.
[Android Apps and Games] kire.htc:
Thanks for reply. After one day testing i will send ,,mA support request,, with ,,HTC Evo (test),, method. With that method for now i see too low discharges.

I need to know 2 more things:

-Is it normal charting up to 4350mv (i tihnk it's normal 4.1v or 4.2v)

-When i charge 3vo over night (phone on stand by) i take too long from 99% to 100% (about 45 minutes) and after that it's constantly droping and rising between 100% and 95%, so in the morning my phone is never 100% charged (99%, 98%). Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Yes voltage on the Evo is quite high. Mine was @4330mV. Now it's best not to charge phones fully, but discharging them to 0 is actually ok, contrary to most belief.

Here is some info on battery aging. I still need to find back the one about low voltage, but in short it said battery can go down to 2800mV without loss!

Yes, that's how HTC designed their latest battery driver! Quite a mess IMO.

The idea is that keeping a full charge is not good for battery again! So they cycle, mine was cycling between 100 and 95!

How does that cope with this?

- Aging as explained in link above: heat between 70-100% can increase battery aging (hence the slower rate of charge after 50% avoiding heating).

- Battery cycles are limited, so how those tiny cycles would affect battery age is suspicious.