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[Galaxy S I9000 General] xxgg:
How cool (or sad) would it be...

If you are physically at the Samsung Service Centre yourself to pick up the phone and you perform some sdcard benchmark alike and break it on the spot :)

Or

You'll at a Bell Corp store and kill the sdcard on the spot too, than tell them that you want a new phone, and you break that crap again, and over and over... :eek:

go through their entire stock of galaxy to fine that one rare survivor phone.

absolutely crazy.

i hope one of those dualcore phones get released within Q1 fast.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xxgg:
May I suggest a another torture option?

Mount your internal sdcard connected to your PC.

Than run & repeat disk benchmark, do some disk defrag (which isn't recommended for flash type of drives, that is why you do NOT defrag SSD).

Or do a Full format over and over,

May ways to do things that you should do to a flash type of drives. (but should not die from it but shorten the life of it by xxx amount of hours of it's life. You'll probably have upgraded your phone few times more before it really dies)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] slaman:
What normally kills my phone is syncing my music collection (~2GB) over after copying over my MyBackup files over and restoring after a custom ROM.

I've managed to be able to kill a phone within 24 hours.

On phone #6 now.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] EarlZ:
My internal_SD is my scratch storage for my TV-Shows, so its pretty much stress tested.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TorontoR:
So far, I am pretty sure this actually killed my internal SD. I used the phone's internal SD for storage of HD video that I was shooting video clips for (about an hour's worth in total). The next day, started getting FC's and then internal SD was dead.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jentech:
Great thread @Allgamer. On my fourth phone atm. Still stress testing. Created four hour long videos, have burned four ROMs, reinstalled 50 apps each time and loaded two full length movies over the last two days and so far it's still going, no fc's. Using USB connect as well, which killed the last two. Currently running Darky's 8.0 with speedmod K12K - 500 but no lag fixes.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bax5:
Captured 4 HD videos. Everytime having to stop at 47minutes because "file size was too large" which makes sense because i think that hits the 4gb mark which fat32 partitions are maxed at.

So far so good, no sd card fails.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Aqua1ung:
Okay, concretely, what do I do if I want to give this a try? What option do I choose in TB? I switch to the Backup/Restore tab, and then what? Batch/Backup all user apps + system data? Will that be enough? Or should I try a restore as well? (Btw, what restore? "Restore missing apps + all system data"?)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
yes, you have to first do a full backup

then, a full restore

Batch > RUN Backup all user apps + system data

then

Batch > RUN Restore all apps with data

if the internal SD is working properly it should not CHOKE during the restore process, and it should complete fairly quickly without any user intervetion

(only applicable to Titanium Backup PRO)

if you are using the FREE version of the Titanium Backup, then you should have no problem clicking install + Ok, until all the apps are restored, if at any point it hangs and you can't continue installing, until you reboot the phone, then the internal SD might have the signs

if the internal SD is defective, you will get stuck many times or choke at different stages of the restore process.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] momyc:
My SGS died trying to dowload Copilot NA maps (~1.6GB) after the JK4 update. When will come back form the shop I'll try to do samething , if is dying again on same process .

Writing this , I just got my phone back ! . I think is still same motherboard(10.09 yak...) but with JL2 installed ! I can start the tests !
[Galaxy S I9000 General] EarlZ:
I also perform back ups on regular basis and when I try to flash new kernels or ROM's..

so far so good. International Galaxy S 16GB.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] momyc:
So far so good. I downloaded the CoPilot maps , all my applications and looks good after few hours. Should I root it or should I wait for a while..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] knightdaemon:
I don't see a point in waiting, unless you are testing extreme temperatures with the winter in the meantime...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] utsmaster18:
I updated to JL2 and am just running the HD video test now. First time I tried I had an error saying it wasn't able to capture any video so trying again now. Will post results in a bit.

It stopped again at 2:05. Just stopped recording, I don't know if this is an internal sd issue or something else. Actually it just keeps stopping, it will record for a bit and then it will just freeze and say "Warning, recording failed".

Has anyone else had this?

I'm recording at 720p and am on JL2 no roots, lag fix etc. just plain official update
[Galaxy S I9000 General] oscarsalgar:
I had this freezes too while recording 720p videos before (when running JK4), but after I tried JL2 and Darky's video recording has been ok and I have also been able to delete and copy more than 10 Gb of music in my internal SDcard. I'm testing the video recording right now... yeap.It seems to be working flawlessly.

BUT... I had a couple of FCs in the last 3 days after flashing Darky's rom.

Should I worry??
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Zb134:
I had lots of FC's on Jl2.

Once, I moved to Darky's everything is working well.

Just wipe your user data/ factory reset.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Elle233:
A day of work with data wastage
[Galaxy S I9000 General] can6rxw:
Well, I finally! got my phone back from Hell...I mean Bell! It's my old phone with a flash of JL2 on it (ask me if I'm annoyed or not). I was expecting a replaced unit, or board or something...not just a flash. Oh well...I did NOT put my 16 GB external SD card back in. I installed three heavy HD games that download a lot of data to the Internal SD and so far so good. I'm gonna run like that for awhile and see what happends. I'll throw in an HD video too along the way.

But, I gotta say, I had the HTC Legend as a loaner and while it's a nice solid (no kidding) phone, it's not an SGS!!!! It's SOOOOOOOOOOOO good to have my SGS back!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
the SGS has WiFi in case you forgot ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
it's an easy task with AppsBrain
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Aqua1ung:
Thanks, mine passed w/flying colors. Should I consider myself out of the woods then? Is there a guarantee that my internal SD card is not faulty once it's passed this test?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] thedauntlessone:
Do it multiple times. I mean like 10+ times.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
that's a bit drastic :p

but at least 2 or 3 times to be sure

but yes, if after 2 or 3 times you have no problem with the restoration, then you are pretty much safe.... for the rest of the month.

repeat at least once or twice every month
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tyj82:
I wonder what happend after the internal storage dies.. I mean if we are out of warranty and it dies. Can we continue to use the phone and mount external sd as internal sd ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wang1chung:
does anyone have a picture of the defective i9000m board, or specifically the sdcard (bga chip)?

i ripped mine apart and took some pics after i just got it back from repair, but i don't know if it was replaced or not. i did mark the board, but it turns out i marked the sub-board which attaches to the motherboard and isn't replaced during this warrantied procedure.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] overlords:
so i can do this without any fear now? I asked a similar question a few weeks ago and got no response. Even if i unlocked my phone and am not with bell (i'm in montreal) I can do this, get it to fail and get back a phone that is guaranteed not to fail? Or is the replacement phone just as risky? And do they give a warranty if you have the phone replaced with a new one?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tb5...:
just got my phone back from a sd crash... what is the use of this test?

wont the phones mess up if its going t mess up.

either way we can't be sure...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Deviatorz:
f a situation right now. So far my phone is working well. I have installed Darky's v8.0 ROM for about 2 weeks now. I have seen way too many internal SD failures and I am getting worried. First, I am not a Bell customer, I bought the phone new from craigslist. Second, I got my phone brand new from a guy who works a times telecomm (representative for Bell) and he got his phone from a company draw (I was at his store while he was working). Therefore, I am out of luck in terms of warranty from Bell. I used *#1234# to check my fw and it is on JPY. My phone was a pre 10.08 which worries me the most. I am sure my phone will break sooner or later. I was hoping if anyone knows whether I can get warranty from Samsung or not? If not, I should sell my phone right away while it's still working?

I just uploading a massive 1GB movie to the SD. I think my phone is hanging by a thread right now. For a side note, I went into Bell and asked for a receipt to see if my phone was registered with them and apparently it's not. I started using the phone since October (I was the first to turn it on). Voodoo Lagfix enabled.

Here's other things Ive done: backuped up 150ish apps onto my SD at least 3 times. Restored those apps once (I had free version so I had to click yes for every app =.=). Flashed 2 ROMS. Using Voodoo for about a week.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] thedauntlessone:
Can people please actually use the search function? It's been stated many times over multiple threads that Samsung WILL FIX YOUR PHONE REGARDLESS. You just have to call in and ask for a shipping label.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Deviatorz:
Thank you for telling me that. I would have not posted my question had my phone been store bought. If you read my full post, my phone is NOT store bought. Therefore, I am hoping that someone can bring insight into what I can do.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] EarlZ:
How about using some kind of a defrag program to stress test the internalSD ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wang1chung:
if the bluetooth mac address is the same as before, was the motherboard not replaced?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Deviatorz:
Wouldn't defragging flash memory or any kind of solid state drives be very, very harsh for the chip? What I'm trying to say is, wouldn't this stress it out so much that it could destroy the chip anyways?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] EarlZ:
Stress test wise, its not any different from performing several read/write cycles on the memory chip but durability wise if you do this on a regular basis it will wear out the initial blocks of the memory device since defrag is designed for rotating devices and they read better if the data in consolidated at the beginning of the drive. If you say do this just once a month to test out your memory, it should be ok.. chances are you will be upgrading to a bigger/faster storage before you even reach half of the chip's life span.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sleeplessfreek:
Hey all,

Ill be stress testing my phone this evening and hopefully it dies. Will it be possible to simply yell at a samsung manager and tell them this product is a piece of **** and then ask for a replacement of equal value? (fascinate, captivate?)

Im surprised all these failing drives havent stirred up anything in the media. Im pretty sure less technologically inclined customers will freak out if this happened to their SGS....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mr_at_sgs:
This is not a a good test, I have problems from beginning if I update to much. Some installs are unsuccessfull then.

With all other tests I have no problems, I have 300 apps installed.

My phone is really fast with and without lagfix. The Big apps are stored at SD-Card and working fine.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] 420SYN:
Mine failed while applying a lagfix with backup and restore when I had alot of apps installed
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
yes, samsung will repair the phone, just don't tell them anything extra

make sure the phone also causes the same problem using STOCK ROM like JL2 , JH2, or JK4

those are the only 3 official ROMs
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DS1495:
I'm pretty sure it does, because I think the problem initially occured when running just stock 2.2 w/LauncherPro

And, yes. I'll just keep everything else that voids the warranty on the down low. ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mtzylplyk:
I posted an earlier stress test in this thread. (recording several videos). In the past week I have found that my music player sometimes will skip part way through a song ote stop playing altogether.

Is this a sign of the internal memory card failing?

Thanks,

Mtz
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DS1495:
I've noticed the same symptoms with my phone recently. Songs just randomly ending half-way through. It's strange...I'm not sure if this is a sign of the internal SD failing or not...but it definitely could be.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] knightdaemon:
Just an idea, how about running a chkdsk?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MaverickHHH:
Camcorder test heating up phone

Hi everyone,

I am stress testing the 720p video recording and I find the phone heats up a lot to about 57C to 63C. Are the rest of you experiencing the same thing?

Thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
i don't think that will work, as it only scan the disk, you need to write to the disk to stress it
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DS1495:
Hm, when I tried the 720P recording test I didn't notice the phone heating up that severely...that's strange.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mtzylplyk:
Today, while only listening to music, the phone "shut down".

To describe it more accurately, the music stopped, the screen went black and the return and menu buttons remained lit for and was unresponsive to pressing the power button about 10 minutes before i decided to pull out the battery to restart it.

Allgamer, or anyone else, can you shed some light onto what the problem? Is this showing cracks as a result of my stress testing it earlier? I have done very little downloading/erasing on my phone since, but I will say that i put about 3 Gb of video on the phone, raising the amount of space used from about 6.5 Gb to 9.5 Gb.This is my first replacement phone, and I really hope it's not a hardware issue. None of us deserve this trouble.

Thanks!

Mtzylplyk
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
I'm sorry to say, but it does seems that it is actually showing the early signs

mi 2nd replacement was acting like that for about 2~3 months before the sudden death.

your original description, might have been apps error, but the 2nd findings that you just mentioned, definitely are the signs
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MaverickHHH:
Really? That sucks. I have two I9000m phones right now. One repaired 10.08 that I am returning to Bell and another brand new replacement (has blue dot sticker) 10.11 and they're both heating up significantly with this test.

This is from leaving the recording on for an hour attempting to stress test. Even with this heat up, there seems to be no issues with the internal SD which is what counts I suppose.

Actually, I am running seeARM's JL2 custom rom with SOK. I wonder if that is why. When I prepare the old phone back to stock ROM for the return, I'll do another test to see if it still heats up.

Thanks for the feedback.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] knightdaemon:
Funny, I have a 10.08 and a 10.11 with stickers too. It is normal that the phone heats up in some operations (ever tried Mobile Hotspot?).

I did 4 recordings to full with the 10.11, as for the 10.08, going with Darky's + Voodoo lagfix to test it to see if I need to send it back. Anyone noticed a purple hue when swiping the screen?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mtzylplyk:
Thanks all gamer. I guess it would be best top try and accelerate the failure process then? Or do you think samsung will replace before death, seeing as it is defective?

Mtz
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DS1495:
Samsung will definitely replace it before death. I sent mine back and I was only seeing occasional force closes of apps. The don't really ask a lot of questions...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mtzylplyk:
Thanks for the reply, i'll be calling samsung tomorrow morning. :)

Update. Called Bell, they said they will replace it. The policy seems to have changed. This time I have to bring it to a product assistance center. I hope I'm not left waiting around for a new phone while my defective gets sent in...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MaverickHHH:
Actually I figured it out. It only heats up when I have it charging + recording. However, when it's unplugged, temperature is fine. I'm pretty sure this is normal.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] prana_Sky:
Happened to me! sent it in to samsung for 2 weeks, just got it back.works again. Them put a new main PCB. I use to flash,root. but still dont really know why it got currupt and how to provent it from happening again. I'm a bit scared that once out of warranty it will happen again
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Gordon_Jeffries:
I got my phone in November of 2010. Could my phone possibly be a defective one? It came with a JK2 Eclair (I think cant remember exactly) and I have upgraded it to JK4 through keys when it was avaliable and just recently I have customly flashed it to JYP and rooted. Should I worry about the internat SD card failure?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] :
Hmm...

I'm on my first replacement from bell, and after the phone shut itself off after errors in updating after installing a crapload of updates, I decided to re flash with stock JL2 from using the superoptimized kernel. Just now, I tried stressing the SD card by recording a ton of videos and... it's fine after like an hour or so. It is, however, getting really hot (almost 50 degrees) so I stopped the test.

So anyways, my question is, is my phone actually showing signs of the SD dying, or am I just being paranoid? The apps that FC before flashing don't anymore after reinstalling them after the flash so...:confused:

And did other people's phone get so hot during this test?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kaiser__sose:
stress tested

Hi,

I've tried stress testing by recording 1hr HD videos until the internal card was full. I then deleted them all. After deleting all the videos it's only showing as 8gb of internal memory free. I only have about 20 apps installed and had 14 or 15gb free before doing the stress test.

Do you know any way I can get back my free space? Do you think the phone is about to crash because of faulty memory (showing 8gb instead of 16 gb).

I don't want to reformat the internal card and loose all the apps and setting etc that i've installed. Is there a way to backup all my apps etc so theat if I format to try to get my space back it is easy to install all the apps and settings again?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
Deleting the files should get your space back

reboot the phone, see if that helps
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mtzylplyk:
I can't say i measured the temperature of mine, but it certainly did get warm/hot when i was recording the video... keeping in mind that i probably felt the temperature to be not as hot because the protective sleeve i keep my phone in probably insulated my hand from the heat. I wouldn't say i was alarmed by it though. I got similar temperatures when I played Robo tower defence for an hour or so...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kaiser__sose:
ive deleted all the files ( as noted in post) and ive rebooted many times..still only 8 gig free
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
just to be sure what is the exact model shown in the sticker, inside the battery compartment?

maybe you have the 8GB version instead of the 16GB version
[Galaxy S I9000 General] scorpeeon:
i'm planning to buy a microsd card soon but i'm not sure if class4 has enough performance for 720p video recording or i need better?

hm, i tried recording some video and it seems like its only around 12Mbps. so even class 2 (2MBps) would be enough?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Fidalgos:
Anyone with this problem? When I record a 720 video... the quality of the video is excelent and the audio is also good but have always a retard... not sincronized with video:confused:

Any help is much apreciated, :)

My SGS have the last stock version and the only change I made... is rooted:o
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xaav bp:
Does the warranty apply for the lenght of your contract if you are on a 3 year plan because mine broke and i sent him for repair but i was wondering what happen after you've purchased it for more than one year I don't want to pay 60$ a month for a paper weigth
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gw0:
Imho the best method is to use the command dd to fill up the free space. It is fast, efficient and if done right you can also check what kind of errors happen and where.

Unfortunately for this you need a rooted phone and a working adb tool to connect in USB debugging mode.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kaiser__sose:
I have the 16gb version... it said 13gb free before recording the video.. now only 7.95gb free even after deleting all the video
[Galaxy S I9000 General] j1mmy:
Interesting information

I had no ideea that a once flagship phone coul have such a big handicap... that's sad, I was considering buying one but I'll have to read more on this before:(

By the way is this a specific carrier branded phone issue? ( I see Bell get's named a lot)

Or have there been problemes with other carriers as well, or even unbranded phones?

Had some bad experience with a Nokia E55, a fine phone by the way, were it not to break down and die after merely 3 days of normal usage .
[Galaxy S I9000 General] borayman:
I just uploading a massive 1GB movie to the SD. I think my phone is hanging by a thread right now. For a side note, I went into Bell and asked for a receipt to see if my phone was registered with them and apparently it's not. I started using the phone since October (I was the first to turn it on). Voodoo Lagfix enabled.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pikachu01:
Are internal sd failures mostly from Bell Galaxy S's?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] SCIENTYREAL:
thanks

:) Good Ideas
[Galaxy S I9000 General] raheelc:
Could you elaborate on what you mean by CHOKE?

I just tried this method, and i was able to backup/restore (using titanium pro) without having to intervene in the process in any way...and the restore process was fairly quick (took less than 5 minutes, im guessing thats ok, right?)...

however the progress bar did pause in a few places (for a few seconds) when it was restoring some apps...for example, when it was restoring Whatsapp, it paused for a few seconds and then moved on to the next app....also did this when restoring facebook (and a few more apps)...but it was never too long a pause, maybe max 5-6 seconds and then it would progress to the next app without me intervening in any way...

so is this is normal? or was the internal sd carding choking?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] orenzah:
thanks helped
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nedthehead:
I know this should be a general test with all i9000M models considering the past, but considering the current hardware revisions, does there seem to be a decreased failure rate? I sent my phone (purchased in November) out for repairs last week and I'm expecting a new phone (or new motherboard at least) back this week. Are the chances of a lemon slightly reduced?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jotan:
I was having a few issues recently on darky rom 9.2, so i switched roms and used titanium backup/restore and all is good here :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xaav bp:
I have had the same problem and checked all files on my sgs i found out i was Los.dir wich is a folder that contain all the corrupted files I deleted it and got my space back
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Blackbeard_:
Is there any possible way to repair or replace the phone's internal SD yourself?

Which office of Samsung should we contact if we have the International phone? My phone is originally from the UK, then I bought it second hand. I'm now in Asia and sometimes the United States, but I don't go back to the UK.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
yes you can, but you will need to buy a motherboard parts with a good internal SD, and that is extremely hard to find online, since anyone selling a I9000M motherboard, might in effect be dead
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lglossman:
Great! Thanks...