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[HD2 Android NAND Development] diesburg:
Of course it will, thats why its in the hd2 forums.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] g30rg10u:
If its the first thing you flash after winmo, you need the PC, you dont have any app installed, remember that your phone was just formatted?

for USB, you dont need PC's USB true, but even the wall charger uses mobile's USB connecter, if that is broken cant charge the phone... -> useless phone.

cedesmith admitted that thats just a warning. nobody failed, look at the replies after few pages.

even fastboot, using the sdcard as source, falls into the same category. If you feel like flashing from sdcard is dangerous, what you are saying is dangerous.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arif-ali:
Hey guys,

I have updated cLK to have the version of the clk in cmdline, this is only an interim release, and it does not add functionality, other than for the purpose of having only one CWR for both MAGLDR and cLK. I have put this version number to 1.4.0.1, as cedesmith is likely to use the 3rd digit, and I didn't want to release 1.4.1, to cause confusion.

As MAGLDR is not open source, we are not able to modify, but cLK has that advantage, and we can change that to facilitate any common grounds such as CWR by scripting means.

Now we will have only one version of CWR, so hopefully now will be less confusion on which CWR to load. See the CWR thread by seadersn for more details

I have attached the cLK here for people who want it.

My changelogs can be found here

https://github.com/arif-ali/cLK/commits/master

see the post below for more details, and posts before that with respect to testing

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13580253&postcount=489

This has no functionality difference from the previous version, other than what I have specified above. Also this release has not been modified by cedesmith (so this is an unofficial update)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] DB99:
EDGE vs 3G?????

So this may be a stupid question, but it was burning me up all weekend. I went to go visit Mom this weekend, she lives in 2g coverage only. And on EDGE, my connection was rock solid. I'm sitting at 1% time without signal.

So my question is, why is it that EDGE is so stable, but 3G drops out?

I'm using TyphooN 3.2.1. I also pushed the beta4 wrapper as this works best for me.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] manolis287:
CLK Update

Can someone tell me how to make a CLK update zip since charan in cm7 isn't there right now we have new ver but not a new clk update.zip and i really dont want to change to Magldr

Also can i update Clk without having to install everything again?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] g30rg10u:
Really good point. but would that be possible ? Maybe with a Parameter (1. Use of current partition layout, 2. Replace all partitions)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arif-ali:
yes, that is what I do, as long as you keep to the same layouts, it shouldn't change anything. and therefore continue to use the same CWR and ROM

I change between layouts, when I do try out different ROMS, again you shouldn't need to reflash CWR, as the CWR is still in the same blocks of NAND and the partition location of recovery in the block end doesn't change.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zach.antre:
I can confirm that as well. You can flash newer cLK as long as you keep the same layout.

---Of topic

Arif, do you happen to know how can we fix bad blocks? I see many users are having bad blocks because of too many flashes...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] EclipseX:
anyone can tell me.....if the CLK is more fast than maglard?!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arif-ali:
This could be because of wear and tear, Phones are not supposed to endure so much flashing, as many as some people do.

My suggestion is,

download the latest stock WM from HTC,

rename the nbh file to leoimg.nbh to the root of sdcard

flash the stock WM via SDcard. (this will automatically reboot phone once, and please don't disturb the battery, otherwise there is a risk of bricking phone)

and then retry all the steps to get android/WP7 back on again as per the usual way. If it still says something about bad blocks, then it is a HW fault
[HD2 Android NAND Development] IzaacJ:
Hello.

I've got some problems and I don't know if they're related to cLK or the recovery or the rom, but everytime I try to restore a backup it won't boot up properly.

The rom in question is HyperDroid GBX v12. No errors in CWM and I've tried to install the rom first and then restore the data, cache and sd-ext but it still won't boot...

So, is there anyone else with these problems or that could guess where the problem is?

Just tried to restore after I'd done a flash 29, reinstall of cLK and CWM...

cLK: 1.3.2

CWM: 3.0.1.4

Regards

IzaacJ
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zach.antre:
Hello,

1st of all, update your cLK and CWM to latest ( i don't think it is related to your problem but I think that with this configuration you can't charge your phone while is off)

Also there is no need to restore cache.

According to what you wrote I can say either that your partitioning is not right or you have bad blocks in nand.

1st check if the partitioning is right.

If it is alright then try with fastboot the following:

fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase misc
fastboot erase recovery
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase userdata

These commands will actually erase all your partitions and you will have to reflash recovery and then install ROM as normal.

If you have bad block it should say something like

[5648] bad block @ 1236

[5648] can't erase block @ 1236

If you have many bad blocks you can try what Arif-ali said earlier (flash WinMo with SD method)

If that doesn't work then create larger partitions. CWM can recognize bad blocks and skip them.

1 block is 128KB (I am not sure about this)

Report plz
[HD2 Android NAND Development] IzaacJ:
Thanks for your reply, but there seems to be no difference...

Installed cLK 1.3.3 and updated CMW through RomManager, rebooted and tried to restore, but still stuck on boot screen for about 15 minutes.

Then tried those fastboot commands, but there were no errors about bad blocks so I installed CMW again and tried to restore, and there is no change yet...

Regards

IzaacJ
[HD2 Android NAND Development] lackonne:
can not flash leoimg.nbh from sd method.

i have 8 bad block, any other way?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zach.antre:
Make sure your partitions are larger in size than the images (*.img)

Wrong thread...

Please make a new thread here: http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=989

State your problem, give a better description and info related to your problem.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] karendar:
Some cellphone repair shops can do formats through jtag... I've read about that in the past to recover defective flash memory
[HD2 Android NAND Development] IzaacJ:
Using the same partitioning as when the backup was taken.

I took a backup of HyperDroid GBX 12, installed HyperDroid CM7 2.0.1, didn't like it, and tried to restore... Not booting...

That was when the problem occurred...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sambafr:
Are your battery pins ok? Had a similar issue cuz of bad battery pins

Is winmo rzflashing working?

Try reflashing other radio

sometimes there is an issue with sd ext thereforz try reformatting sd partitions

Good luck
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zach.antre:
Then plz try advance restoring so we can find where the problem is:

1st restore boot and system and reboot. Check if you can boot.

2nd restore data and reboot. Chech if you can boot.

3rd restore sd-ext and reboot. Check if you can boot.

If you can't boot after restoring sd-ext then reformat you sd and create the ext partition from CWM... I never had issues with restoring when I created sd-ext by CWM.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] IzaacJ:
I'll try this later. And my sd-ext is created from CWM. And if I remember correctly it's a 2 gig partition.

EDIT: Did like this:

Took a backup of the rom I was currently using (HyperDroid CM7 2.0.1)

1. Factory Reset

2. Restored boot

3. Restored system

And it won't boot...

EDIT: Now I've tried this:

1. Factory Reset

2. Installed HyperDroid CM7 2.0.1

3. Installed HyperDroid Hotfix 2.0.1

4. Restored data

Stuck at boot animation for about 10-15 minutes... Might be because my preferred launcher could be installed to sd-ext, otherwise I don't know what could cause this.

1. Factory Reset

2. Installed HyperDroid CM7 2.0.1

3. Installed HyperDroid Hotfix 2.0.1

4. Restored data

5. Restored sd-ext

And it booted after about 2 minutes, but no settings are saved, no apps are there. It's just like I've just installed the rom w/o any restoring...

Seems to me that it might be a problem with the HyperDroid roms or the latest CWM...

Charansingh's CM7 is restoring fine, and TyphooN's too, with data and sd-ext... And those backups were made with CWM 3.0.1.4, the HyperDroid ones with CWM 3.1.0.0

EDIT: Just looked at the data and sd-ext files in the HyperDroid CM7 backup, and they're empty... 0 byte files.

The data and sd-ext files in the HyperDroid GBX 12 are not, but still not restorable...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] elmerct:
I've Bern using cLK for a while now with Hyperdroid v12. My one issue has always been ppp and the data instability. I would loose the connection every time I either made a call or received one. I had to toggle the connection from off to on to get it back. I found an app yesterday called Connection Checker that periodically checks both mobile and wireless network connections for problems (default is every 5 min). If a problem is detected, in my case a dropped mobile data connection, it automatically toggles airplane mode and restores the connection. Saves me the trouble of having to think about it! Kind of a backdoor sollution until the Cedesmith and friends get the wrapper sorted out. Just thought I would share for those of you with the same issue. Just search the market for it.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] :
did you tried cedes beta ril wrappers? They are unfortunatly not linked to the op...using the beta 4 wrapper. Since i use it, i dont have any drop anymore...i think its the same for the major other people.

...dont know hyperdroid rom, have a look at the changelog, if one beta wrapper is included in the clk version.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] kaiserlein:
No problems with data on hyperdroid gbx 12 and b4 wrapper
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dung8604:
is anyone else still having problems with data drops using the b4 wrapper? I still get them unfortunately. They're not nearly as bad, almost bearable even, but still not *perfect* :-(
[HD2 Android NAND Development] aarick:
Same here..unfortunately I've gone back to magldr..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] MontAlbert:
beta5 is perfect for me and my mate.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Blubster:
Same here, no visible data drops...

Only issue i see which may not be related to wrapper, is high drainage when data is on... but i am not complaining about, i just disable data when not needed.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dung8604:
Lol well doesn't that kind of defeat the purpos?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dung8604:
Hmm okay I think I'll try beta 5. I heard so many good things about beta 4, I never thought to try 5. How's the battery drain on beta 5?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Blubster:
Don't point out the flaws in my reasoning please! :D

Not much people have reported an issue with battery, it may very well be related to an app i installed which does a lot of sync when data is on...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] qaliza:
Just shifted from MAGLDR to cLK bootloader and I just found out that I was missing a lot.

This is my first release for cLK bootloader

Qaliza's Deisre HD ARA v1.1 Multilanguage
[HD2 Android NAND Development] yuhenyo:
HELP!!!!! Im trying to flash clk. but i cant install the drivers..

when i try to install the inf file, this message comes up:

the inf file you selected does not support this method of installation clk

PLEASE HELP
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mdskrzypczyk:
I don't think reading 143 pages will help nor searching considering everyone talks about the beta 4 wrapper, so can someone that has it or knows what page I can find it on, attach it to their post or tell me? Thank you.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arif-ali:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13246953&postcount=1321

about 10 pages back, that's what I did, go through all the pages in reverse order
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mdskrzypczyk:
Wow I was just about to put the wrapper into YOUR cyanogenmod nightlies hahaha how convenient. What wrapper is in the cLK builds by default? And thank you for the link.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arif-ali:
what do you mean you are going to put into the nightlies?

wrt to which wrapper is in any cLK build, you will need to ask the chef who has created the ROM, I think some have beta4, and some may have beta5
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mdskrzypczyk:
I meant I was going to put it in the cyanogenmod nightly you work on on my phone hahaha. And I'm asking which wrapper you put into the cLK build of the unofficials nightlies.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arif-ali:
I use beta 4
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dusko_m:
is there any chanse that ppp could benefit from charan work on .37 kernel?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] cavemaneca:
Anyone else switch from MGLDR to clk, and didn't have to reflash data/system/recovery?

Cuz I flashed clk, then it rebooted and I expected an error but everything booted up just fine.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] smokin901:
Just yesterday Switched to CLK 1.4.0.1 from magldr using miui rom 1.5.20 tytung r10 kernel on TMOUS.

Offline charging work fine (Amazing thing) but when i press power button only apart from buttons getting lit nothing happens. to power on the phone i have to disconnect the cable wait for charging light to go off and then press power button. is this behavior normal or am I missing something :confused
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arif-ali:
It is normal behaviour
[HD2 Android NAND Development] smokin901:
Thanks Arif for clarifying.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Deluxestar:
where can I download clk 1.4.0.1 I can not see a link in the first post.

plz help me.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] benveq:
will we have any chance to use last24mb of nand in the future? or is there any possibility that it can be solved in future?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sebasmiles:
I think its been stated a few times that if he has time he will look into it, but the question is....is it really necesary? With most roms supporting A2SD 24mb shouldnt be necesary right?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mwakious:
here you go!

i can confirm that 1.4.0.1 works very good !!!

i tryed the wrapper beta 5 and i had data connections drop...went to beta 4 and no drops,the battery is working more than good!!(tryed the same ROM with MAGLDR and cLK,DHD RAM 2.0 from imilka,and the drenage was excacly the same!!the connection is good and i love the off charge!!!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] benveq:
well I need some programs installed to main memory instead sd card.on the other hand 24mb is space not to be despised.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vijaysapkota:
Hello cedesmith,

if magldr have more features, whats the use of Clk ? I think its just a mess up with other users?

cant you guys work together and make something more useful?

thnx
[HD2 Android NAND Development] benveq:
are you sure you searched well differences between clk and magdlr? I used both of them and clk has capability off charging , fast boot up and fast data connection.pls before you make comment search well ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vijaysapkota:
Ohh really? And what more?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] bobmarsh72:
Clk has the use of Rom manager.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] stirkac:
what is wrong with you man? :confused: you have the choice, and you're still complaining... why don't you just use magldr and leave this thread alone?

thanks ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] :
working rom manager

- install rom zips, make backup and restore roms, while in Android

- reboot to recovery works

no ugly "go go go" screen on boot

charging when phone off is working

PPP instead of RMNET (which is better, can decide everyone for himself)

If you want to have a more native device, use clk

OPEN SOURCE

Once you use clk you don't want to miss it anymore :)

CLK > magldr
[HD2 Android NAND Development] g30rg10u:
if mercedes produces cars then why do other car makers still produce cars? dah.. because people need options, and MAGLDR is a closed source, managed by 1 man, dead-project bootloader. And cLK is an open sourced, full of capabilities, more native, faster, easier to use, way friendly when you dont use MS Windows computer, with anyone working on it bootloader.

MAGLDR, on day 90 that was released to everyone, had more features from cLK on day 7. It had Tetris, Go Go Go screen, last 24MB of internal memory (that can be easily cleared).

MAGLDR lacks of ROM Manager -- ( Backup/Restore, Rom Installer etc), Android fastboot, and cannot be flashed on your hd2 if you own Macintosh or Linux.

To answer your 2nd question, why the 2 bootloaders do not cooperate, is because Cotulla (MAGLDR) denies to opensource his product, nor to allow anyone else to work on as is, and also denies to provide any knowledge or information on the Little Kernel project that cedesmith initially customized for HD2 with the codename cLK. And lastly, it has been a while since the last update of his project, nor a word from him.

Cotulla did a lot of work on HD2 and we appreciate it, but he is not fun of linux/android etc. he loves Windows and he never cared about how optimized his code / drivers were.

He worked more on porting WP7 on HD2 rather than doing anything else with regards to android/linux on HD2.

Not criticism but reality. This can be good and bad for different people.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] seadersn:
cedesmith, i love your b4 ;) thx again.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mzebrowski13:
I use clk for some time and so far I almost forgot what it MAGLDR with all respect to DFT but I have one question, in one of the threads I saw a comment that CLK does not support the additional RAM in our HD2 what seems to me to be impossible but I want to make sure. So can anyone confirm this?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] diesburg:
I thought the more ram was unlocked by hspl, not the bootloader...someone correct me if im wrong
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Richy99:
the extra 128meg of ram is unlocked by the radio unless he is on about the extra 24meg space at the end of the nand partitions
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mwakious:
when you install the 2.15.50 radio the 128MB of the ram are "freed"(no matter if you have cLK or MAGLDR)but you can not see it,HTC had "locked" this RAM on the HD2 for the 6.5 wm system, so it would be only used from the system (wm)so it wouldent lag when you use a lot of programs.

for the 24MB that you can not see on the nand part ,where blocked for the cache of the system,it was like a security for the good function of wm,if you use MAGLDR you can use this part but really you will see 12MB and not 24MB,in cLK theres not possibility to open it,but i think that it does not matter....if you want an opinion from someone that has tested everything on HD2 stay with cLK that is uptated more often and it has benefits that MAGLDR sees only in dreams...:D

if someone does not want an almost 100% android phone:p,whants to use wp7:eek:,or whants to have 2 androids:confused: should choose MAGLDR;)

the best configuration for now is

cLK 1.4.0.1,recovery 3.2.0.0,wrapper beta4
[HD2 Android NAND Development] vijaysapkota:
SO, im interested in Clk. does anybody have idea if I have backup'ed my rom in Madglr with cm recovery, is it possible to restore the same rom with cm recovery in cLk?

please answer as soon as possible...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arif-ali:
No, it won't, as you need to convert the zImage and initrd to boot.img format. this is explained in th thread many times already.

so grab these from your rom, and you can convert using mkbootimg
[HD2 Android NAND Development] lackonne:
i think you right when i used wm6.5 and hspl3, my ram is not 576 but when i use hspl2 my ram 576, of course with new radio
[HD2 Android NAND Development] JJKameR:
I had connection issues on my cLK Typhoon CM7 rom.

Data was nor stable nor reliable.

With magldr no problem at all.

I wish that data stability would be fixed quickly to be back on cLK.

Last but not least, boot time with magldr is blazing fast if compared to cLK.

Other than these... cLK rocks.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mstrk242:
No, but what you can do is backup your rom in clockwork under magldr, install clk, install the clk version of the rom you're using, reboot back into recovery and do an advanced restore, restoring only your data.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] frankinstine:
Wow...clk has is a more Android feel to it. There's no go,go,go screen, reboot to recovery works (on my builds anyways) Rom manager works completely. The only flaw is you can only use ppp networking... and tetris.lol If network can be fixed to used either or, it will be the best bootloader for the HD2, but that's my opinion.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mwakious:
for the connection issues try changing the wrapper,(beta4 or beta5) beta 4 is great and no data loose on sense builds,in GB and CM7 try beta 5 you 'll see that the data corruption goes....

the boot time does not depend on the boot loader,but its in the init file of every build...it depends on the dev if he can make it more faster...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] JJKameR:
Odd question where to find the wrapper.... :)

Sent from my HTC HD2
[HD2 Android NAND Development] arif-ali:
beta 5: Page 130 http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13219981&postcount=1299

beta 4: page 133 http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13246953&postcount=1321

Or click the relevant link in my signature
[HD2 Android NAND Development] :
Sorry if this is a noob question but how do you change the system/data/cache partitions?? I've googled it and searched, I must be doing something wrong because I can't find how to change it..

Thanks in advance, to whomever replies..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] stirkac:
do you mean size or contents?

size is flashed with appropriate cLK(check arif-ali's layouts)

contents are installed via CWM or pushed via ADB with "adb push" command
[HD2 Android NAND Development] JJKameR:
Well I have tried both now. I can report that although wrapper 5b seems to work better I still have disconnection issues.

What is really pissing me off is that sometime I cannot even start a connection.

To have internet back again I have to restart the phone.

Except for this cLK is definitely the best bootloader. Clean, easy, simple and with basic functionality that magldr is still missing.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mwakious:
try fixing the permissions,or in recovery or with ROM manager,that would do the trick.what built are you using,i had the same problems on sense roms using beta 5.

dont forget,after installing do a reboot 1-2 times...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] corlygunnz:
What sense rom you using? Its stock sense? I'm using jw miui and I love but I want to see how sense works with clk
[HD2 Android NAND Development] JJKameR:
It's in my sign. And yes, I rebooted almost 3 of 4 times after having fixed permissions.

Are you sure that data is consistent 10 times out of 10?

Because at first everything was better with wrapper 5 but after some time I couldn't start a connection at all.

I really wish I could move to cLK... it's way better.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mwakious:
yeap,i use it every day a month now...i know that the connection is alive because i use watsapp and the messages arrive in time..when i used beta 5 i had internet only when i opened the phone but when the display was off i always lost connection...so thats why a changed it in beta4...(this with imilkas ram DHD) when i used beta 5 with nexus GB from tytung it was wroking great!!and beta 4 no....:eek:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] JJKameR:
Well I am back to cLK with wrapper 5 and I will test it deeply during the weekend.

I start to think that the problem may be caused by juice defender.

Unfortunately without it my battery wouldn't last a day.