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[Samsung Mesmerize] dcow90:
There are plenty of roms that run on 2.2. Once we have a stable 2.2 it is just an issue of porting those roms over which will happen very quickly I imagine.

As to your question, let me try to explain:

Everything in RED is the kernel. Everything in the 3rd layer, but mostly the fourth layer (or everything in BLUE) is the vernacular ROM.

[I say vernacular because a ROM can and many times does contain the whole diagram, but that's not how we think of it here. In fact, to 'flash' a ROM simply implies that you are writing over the device's read only memory which, traditionally, was done all at once because of the nature of the hardware. If we were using unrestricted phones, we would actually be using fastboot to flash images in a more traditional sense, but the update packages allow us to do things in a little different manner. Anyway, this is all beside the point..]

The kernel Android uses is the Linux kernel which is freely available and actively developed by many, ranging from individuals to corporations. No problem there. The hardware is of a more proprietary nature, this is where the drivers come into play. The drivers must be fitted to each new revision of the Linux kernel (imagine the drivers above as puzzle pieces that have to be cut correctly to fit into their respective slots in the kernel). This is why we can't just build a 2.6.32 kernel that *runs* on our device. It needs drivers.

As Android progresses in updates (from 2.0 to 2.1 to 2.1 etc), the significant revisions (the ones you notice) are to the 2nd, but mostly the 3rd, layer. Now, if you've been following, the 2nd layer isn't shown much love by the community here. As phone owners we just care about the 3rd and 4th layers, or the ROMs. As a community here, we have very solid 2nd, 3rd, and 4th layers for 2.2 with 2.3 close behind. What we are waiting for is a nice foundation (kernel) to slide underneath it all. Once that happens, with minimal work, we'll be golden (=

I hope that helps explain the distinction for you. If I just confused you more let me know..
[Samsung Mesmerize] skitzo_inc:
I'm aware. I just know that we'll have 2.2 working before they release it, and within a week of the official release, we'll have a fully working Kernal and Rom.

I won't do the "official" update.
[Samsung Mesmerize] bigjkcfan:
This is completely off topic but I just had to drop a line to you dude and say GO BIG RED!! I'm a fellow Nebraskan :p
[Samsung Mesmerize] sageDieu:
sorry for off topic but could op fix his spelling of "their" please? every time I see it in the post preview I'm like ASDF
[Samsung Mesmerize] co6alt:
Pretty sure that pic with the update times was put up on Jan 20. So I'm thinking its pretty valid, can't wait :) and thanks for the description dcow. Helps explain a lot!

sent from my superclean mesmerize
[Samsung Mesmerize] droidzach:
Totally awesome wonder how Steve Jobs feels about that one!:D
[Samsung Mesmerize] roadwarrior69:
Would be great if they port to Samsung mesmerize. A device MADE to run the OS.
[Samsung Mesmerize] icebear8:
So how would i update to 2.2 when it comes out? I saw there was no update button under the settings
[Samsung Mesmerize] phidelt82:
There will be an update on the USCC website, or you can update to a 2.2 ROM and kernel, or restore files that will be here on the site.
[Samsung Mesmerize] dcow90:
(= (= (= (= (= (=
[Samsung Mesmerize] afritchen:
Hmmmmm... You seem happy...
[Samsung Mesmerize] dcow90:
Desire got their Froyo today!
[Samsung Mesmerize] Iguana775:
we got ours a few days ago thanks to you guys! ;)
[Samsung Mesmerize] Circlel05:
Talked to my tech today and he said official update will be next month. Was really hoping it would be sooner. Going to root his mez tomorrow and install CWM and voodoo for him.
[Samsung Mesmerize] Velorium:
Why wouldn't a tech just do it themselves?
[Samsung Mesmerize] Circlel05:
He's not familiar with linux. I keep telling him to check this place out. He's not real big on messing with phones like this either, but when I showed him mine he changed his mind. He's very happy with his now. What's cool is I did it right there in the store.
[Samsung Mesmerize] cpfeifer:
I have a Desire and a Mesmerize of course I'm running the EA11 froyo leak on my Mesmerize, but you say the Desire got their update the other day? How do I get that update? The phone doesn't seem to support FOTA updates.

Swyped using USCC Mesmerize
[Samsung Mesmerize] i4get75:
http://www.uscellular.com/androidupgrades
[Samsung Mesmerize] cpfeifer:
Oh jeez thanks!

Swyped using USCC Mesmerize
[Samsung Mesmerize] jman21442:
Why wait my mez is running froyo and runs great
[Samsung Mesmerize] raydogg1975:
Samsung SCH-I500 Galaxy S Mesmerize

i think usc should be looking at doing a better job in the future on updates.they should have already had the 2.2 update out like months ago
[Samsung Mesmerize] Mesmerizeuser:
I'm not sure it's entirely USCC's fault. I think Samsung took a while getting Froyo out to the customers. Maybe there's something about their UI or the hardware that makes it hard to get Froyo working, or maybe Samsung was dragging their feet. Either way, I can't think of a single carrier in the US that has released a 2.2 update for a Galaxy S phone (though I might be wrong).

On the other hand, it did take them a while to get it out for the Desire as well, so they may share the blame.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] IG-88.thx:
i've got a friend that has recently experienced his Droid going crazy running through apps on its own and entering gibberish text.

there is a forum at the vzw communities that details the problem (i can't post links here, so community dot vzw dot com and search for:

"Droid running rampantly through apps on its own, entering text into messages & calling people"

anyone else seeing this?

thanks for any ideas

ig
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] ObedStackpole:
I'll bet that he's using an aftermarket charger. Disconnect it from the charger, and see if it's still misbehaving..

:)

Obed
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] IG-88.thx:
still acting up. just rooted and same problems, he did find a rom that ws stable for a few hours then it started acting up again. im guessing the touchscreen is screwed up.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] crespo80:
Hello, I want to unistall the eng SPL, the custom cyanogenmod recovery and ROM and the updated radio that I installed on mu HTC Hero GSM, and go back to all original HTC 2.1 Eclair unrooted.

It is possible? How can I do this?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] mattnmd:
See here : http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/03/how-to-unroot-the-htc-hero/

and do a firmware upgrade to 2.1

OR

find yourself a 2.1 RUU and do the steps in the link with this one ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] crespo80:
I have already tried that, but the programs pauses saying "waiting for bootloader" and then stops saying "USB connection problem".

The phone hangs on the bootloader screen.

I think the problem is the eng SPL, how can I revert to original SPL before trying again?

Even HTC sync doesn't see the phone
[Hero, G2 Touch General] crespo80:
I found and installed a 1.76.0004 locked SPL, but nothing changed...

I tried to start the RUU file and thenm when the process stops on the bootloader screen, start again the proces from here, the process continues for a while, but then says the ROM is incorrect for the phone...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] crespo80:
Ok, I finally did it, I luckily found and downloaded a 3.32.405.1 RUU installer and it worked, after repeating twice the process of updating.

Now I have all original!

You can close the thread!
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
About 11:00 into the video interview:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/07/exclusive-interview-googles-matias-duarte-talks-honeycomb-tab/

"What you see in Honeycomb is absolutely the direction for Android."

- Matias Duarte, Director of Android User Experience
[Nexus One General] commodoor:
I wasn't expecting that Honeycomb would be tablet only. Thnx for sharing
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Yeah, a lot of people were thinking it was, which is understandable considering Google had never confirmed it either way until now.
[Nexus One General] ap3604:
Thanks for posting the Paul :)

I wonder if the future of Android phones, post Honeycomb, is to stop making phones with the capacitive buttons (back, menu, home, search) and instead just have purely a screen relying upon Honeycomb's virtual buttons instead?

Probably wont happen but just a thought...
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
:)

He actually goes into it in the interview about "reducing Android's hardware requirements" and that most likely yes, phones and tablets won't need physical or capacitive buttons. But he says they are leaving it open to the manufacturer; if someone wants or needs those buttons, then they can do it. (I suspect Honeycomb phones won't have the traditional 4 hardware buttons.)

Anyway, it's a great interview and highly recommend it; I'm still listening to it on and off. :cool:
[Nexus One General] Clarkster:
Just finished that interview. It really puts a lot of things into perspective and gets me excited for the future of Android.

300,000 new activations per day now too. :) And as was confirmed before, these aren't new rom installs or upgrades, they are new devices.
[Nexus One General] elmerendeiro:
Ok so

-honeycomb is for phones too

-honeycomb can support hardware buttons

-honeycomb has no minimum hardware requirements

Sooo why didn'they develop honeycomb for nexus one too? Why put efforts developing a 2.3 (maybe even a 2.4) release then?
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
Gingerbread is not wasted effort, much of work done there will carry over to Honeycomb. The keyboard for instance, and the kernel changes such as the new garbage collector.

If they wanted to get tablets out the door it makes sense to focus on that initially. They say the new interface scales down to phones too, but I'm sure it will take some extra time.
[Nexus One General] arkavat:
my dream/wish is something very to what motorola has done with astrix.. but better

Honeycomb phone.... looks like and works like a phone...

+

A dock.. looks like a tablet.. but is essentially just a screen with a battery like compartment in the back.

Put the the phone in the compartment..the interface changes to tablet GUI

It will be an irresistible combo!
[Nexus One General] Mokurex:
How does "What you see in Honeycomb is absolutely the direction for android" = "Honeycomb is coming to mobile phones"?

I haven't watch a single second of the interview so he might explained it further there, but the sentence you specifically highlighted out does not mean Honeycomb is guaranteed to come to mobile phones.

Yes, you could interpret it as honeycomb is the direction for android, and since mobile phones run android, we're going to get it for mobile phones right? But it could also mean the honeycomb ui is the direction for mobile phones but we're not going to implement it on mobile phone right now as we're focusing on tablets and we hope to make the ui on both mobile phones and tablets the same in Ice cream(or whatever they end up calling it).

Like I said, haven't watch the vid, but this is my take on the one sentence op took out to state his point.
[Nexus One General] cbxzcm:
More video evidence (from last month) that Honeycomb will work on phones:

youtube.com/watch?v=koIzhLaRJJo

At 4:27...

Interviewer: Is Honeycomb just a version of Android that happens to work well on tablets or is it a tablet version of Android?

Andy Rubin: It's both.

Later at 6:10 Andy Rubin elaborates further by mentioning a Honeycomb "Fragments API" which allows developers to define a smartphone and tablet UI for their applications.
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
He gave the link to the video for a reason. You should probably watch it before saying he's wrong.
[Nexus One General] Clarkster:
You should probably watch the video then. One quote is just to make his point. You can't pick it apart just on that fact, it is a basic way to communicate, pick a part of something to start the conversation.

Watch the video, I won't spell it out for you. But Honeycomb is for everything.
[Nexus One General] Mokurex:
I have never once said that he's wrong, he's probably correct by all means. My point was that the title of the thread says honeycomb is coming to phone, I clicked in here, see a quote highlighted in bold which doesn't really explain the point and a 20 minute long video. I assume the quote is supposed to be the main point of the video, so that's why I responded based off of that.

I'm not accusing anybody or trolling for that matter, just voicing my opinion in an open forum. Chill guys =)
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
My apologies if I sounded too harsh. You really should watch the video though, it answers all your questions and is really quite interesting.
[Nexus One General] tommyz2kool:
Why do you think the link to the video is there?
[Nexus One General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
I have some contacts at HTC and was told that Honeycomb update is tablet only and HTC Sense is still possible (killing the rumours that Google might forbid UI skins starting from Honeycomb). So we won't see Honeycomb for phones, but we will see Honeycomb features coming to phones starting with the next Android version (ice cream).
[Nexus One General] sciulli999:
who cares what it's actually going to be called though? I suspect that yes, the phone version will get a different delineation than just 3.0 Honeycomb. Probably 3.2 Ice Cream. I guess we'll see it first at the Google I/O event (May 10-11, 2011) and then show up early Fall on the next Nexus model?

The point from the interview though is that even if they call it Ice Cream for phones, it will look and act very similar to what they showed for tablets at CES (no hardware buttons, improved multi-tasking, scrollable widgets, etc). He also mentions that absolutely yes, Android is 100% still open and HTC or whoever can continue to skin.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AbsoluteZero:
Hello All,

I'm starting a new thread, because I am in a situation where I want to get my girlfriends phone back to stock so I can warranty it, and hopefully someone here will have the answer and people will have one place to look for putting their Roger's Samsung Captivate back to stock.

I'm hoping someone can tell everyone why we can't seem to get back to stock on these ROM's, here are the things I've tried:

Originally cleared everything rooted the phone through an update.zip, then put on the Clockworkmod Recovery and flashed Cognition v2.3b8, Trying to fix, battery life and lagging issues on her phone, (had a couple of random restarts the day before I flashed, so I was hoping it would fix that).

Then she started noticing the random restarts more often, so I tried:

clearing everything again through the recovery and tried restore from my backup to put things back, it looks like it extracted (or Installed) successfully then when it boots, it gets to the black, "Swipe" screen, then it freezes.

I tried to flash the Rogers_Stock.zip, same thing. Then I extracted the zip, and put it into the backup folder, hoping it will restore it like a normal restore, same thing.

So right now I'm stuck with a phone that says AT&T when it boots (I read one post on how to remove that) and cognition boot up.

Basically, I want to get this to look enough like stock to return.

I was thinking I can try to get rid of that AT&T popup, then flash the stock ROM, and say it just stopped booting for some reason. But then I still need to get rid of the Clockworkmod Recovery.

Wow that was a mouthful.

Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide for use Roger's users (or their significant others).

AZ
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gin032:
try this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=867617

There are others like it too. Just don't try flashing the bootloader or sbl !
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Riker2k:
Gin's got you on the right path for sure. A couple more items for you:

This post should help with removing the AT&T bootup logo: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=849789

If you use Heimdall to flash the Rogers stock firmware that is in the post the Gin linked to then you will absolutely need to follow the instructions to use the Heimdall drivers for your captivate when it's connected or it won't see the device when you tell it to start. Like gin said, don't touch primary or secondary bootloader, leave those out and don't try to repartition it.

Restoring the stock firmware will remove the custom kernel that is installed with Cognition (at least it should) and so the Clockwork recovery should no longer be installed once the restore to stock is done. You can double-check once you are back to stock by powering off the phone and then hold both up and down volume + power, let the power button go after it restarts once and you see the I896 for the 2nd time. It should take you to the stock 2e recovery screen. If it does, you should be golden.

HTH
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AbsoluteZero:
Wow, thanks all,

I used that method without the PIT file,

I just want to say thanks to everyone that offered help,

Goina try to send it for warranty now.

thanks again,

Joe / AZ
[Android Apps and Games] raygordon5:
Hi guys, I've tried searching a lot and have come up empty handed. I don't have a data plan on my phone (just use wifi at home/school/work) and I need an app that stores movie showtimes for the close by theaters so that I can look at them later when i dont have a connection to the internet. maybe something that caches the data so it doesnt have to connect. any suggestions?
[Android Apps and Games] raygordon5:
really? nothing?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kharekatoh:
Hey guys, I'm trying to insatll adfree pro and the new market to my oxygen rooted desire.

I put the .zip folder in the SD card and used ROM manager to install the ROM, however when it finalized and booted back up, adfree pro wasn't installed. Any ideas?

Thanks :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thebazman:
youve already installed a rom

it should be "how do i install adfree pro "

im knew to the desire as i have a galaxy s, if the apks are in the zip why dont you instal with a file manager or an appinstaller
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kharekatoh:
Thanks for the reply thebazman, I've just installed appinstaller, however it's not reading my .zip files. Am I supposed to extract them beforehand?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thebazman:
yes extract them and if theres apks voila just instal them

regards

extract the zip in windows put apks on sdcard
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kharekatoh:
Hmmm,adfree doesn't have an apk file and the new marlet won't install (has to be done from recovery doesn't it?)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thebazman:
can you not instal adfree from the "old" market

regards
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kharekatoh:
Indeed I can, but I like keeping stuff up to date, so I'd ideally like the new market.

However, I'm not hugely keen on the new market so it's not a big loss anyway.

I was going for adfree pro also.
[EVO 4G General] parousia15:
I use 6 google calendars (all on one account). Just recently, only 5 out of 6 load to my calendar app. The calendar data shows up on the web, but in not any of my calendar apps (stock and biz calendar).

Anyone ever have this problem? Theories? Solutions?
[EVO 4G General] fastmikey1969:
Uncheck Calendar sync. Clear data from "Calendar Storage" Application. Recheck sync.

That should work.
[GT540 Optimus General] kwah:
Hi guys,

I've recently bought a GT540 pre-installed with 1.6 and have been trying for approximately 1week to update it to 2.1 before I start with custom ROMs etc.

The issues I've been having is that (a) I don't currently have admin access on the Windows PCs I have access to and (b) trying to use XP SP3 within a VirtualBox instance (Ubuntu Jaunty host) results in the errors described briefly within the support email I just sent to LG UK support staff.

Basically I'm just wondering whether 1) anybody here has faced these issues before 2) if it is a common issue (with a common fix?) 3) if it is a problem with my setup 4) whether these issues would also be a problem if I used the unofficial tools.

Researching around leads me to believe that it hasn't been asked much before and there are no answers other than "it has worked for me" / "I'm having the same problem" / "make sure you are using VirtualBox with USB support" (which I am, else the update process wouldn't even begin).

So yeah, thanks in advance for any help you guys provide and lets see how long it takes for LG UK support to respond (will forward any info to here).
[GT540 Optimus General] kwah:
No I haven't, could you be more specific / provide a link please?

I received this exactly 30mins before your post (according to the email timestamps lol):

To be honest saying that the 2.1 release has been pulled back doesn't explain why it would report a connection error with the phone - surely in that case it would prevent me starting the update process??
[Captivate Themes and Apps] clown_luv:
K so i uninstalled my marketplace and then reinstalled it and jeeps fc PLEASE HELP ME. No but really i need some help. Im on perception 10.1
[Captivate Themes and Apps] zelendel:
Pull the vending apk from the rom zip and put it back in system/apps and then reboot
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] vistagamer:
Guys from Gemany Austria or Switzerland and all guys who speak the lovely German language... :Dhere u go... I´ve made a German Thread also...

Hey Guys,

I´m glad to present you my Revolution HD theme (actually should work on all Deodexed sense Roms...).

I recommend to flash this theme on Android Revolution HD cause I´m getting the best results with this Rom. (very fast, good battery life etc.) Furthermore I´m developing this theme On Android Revolution so it´ll work very well on it!

First: I´m not responsible for Bricks or your Problems with your DHD... you flash on your own Risk. :) But I think your DHD actually can´t Brick. Worst Case is a bootloop...

This theme brings the nice Elements from Revolution HD theme and MultiCulti´s theme together :) (Big thanks to MultiCulti and he_stheone64) I´ve also added some own things like a transparent statusbar...

I´ve modified Framework, Rosie and Resources. he_stheone64 also modified some Apps and their Widgets. (I give you the possibility to add them to this theme. Later more on that!)

Some screens (of the new 1.1.4 Version)

Who will see more? Here u go... the wallpaper is also there...

Flash this theme with CWM... (It´s better to make Nandroid Backup first! Cause of bootlops). The apk´s of this theme are completely zipaligned :) and I´ve tested this Theme on Revolution HD 2.0.3 but it should work an all deodexed sense ROM´s...

Little Updates

I will give you Little updates for very small changes... This Little Updates will ONLY FLASH THE FILE WICH IS EDITED... those changes will be also in the next whole new big Version...

I recommend to you only to flash the big Versions (Like Desolution 1.0)... cause I´m not going to Zipalign those Little Updates... so they need a little more Ram...

Big Updates are Zipaligned at any Time!

Now you can get the Apps provided with the RevolutionHD theme... For those who really don´t want all of these apps: you can easyly Delete the Folder "sdcard" out of my Desolution.zip ....

I hope you Like it... Again many thanks to he_stheone64 and MultiCulti. They´ve done the most work... I´ve put together what should be one :D If you don´t want my theme here are the 2 Originals... :)

RevolutionHD theme

Screenshots of MultiCultis theme

Happy weekend everyone... Just ask if you have questions!

Vistagamer
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] mike1986.:
This theme is very nice and as a developer of Android Revolution can I be honored to meet that girl on the wallpaper? :D
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] vistagamer:
Thanks Mike!

With the girl... I don´t know her... thats my problem... thats our problem... :D

Btw. I already sent you an e-mail but can you put my Skin in the Second Post of your Revolution HD thread? Would be so cool... ;)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] mike1986.:
Yes, I will do that :)