yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] thor9934:
it could be that it wasnt limited by hardware who knows?

the only thing we can do is to cross our fingers for a dev to work something up :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] andQlimax:
@ OP

Whe you say that, did you mean all DROID INCREDIBLE amoled right? Not all amoled phones model?

The htc desire and the nexus one have a different touchpad than the incredible, and i think is impossible to get more than 2 points on those devices.

The Incredible, for what i know, had already a multitouch panel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] thor9934:
Hi there

im uploading now :)

Edit: heres the link http://cid-969c0a6523284d8e.office.live.com/self.aspx/android/PB31IMG.zip
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bemymonkey:
I'd settle for properly working 2-point multitouch with full rotation and crossing axes... what use is 3- or even 4-point multitouch if you can't move the points in relation to one another? :p
[Droid Incredible Android Development] andQlimax:
Yeah, you are right..on the desire 2 fully working points will be fantastic!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lennshow66:
That post says all devices at the end of the first paragraph.

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/multi-touch-support-recovery-testers-needed/
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Rastaman-FB:
yeah i just did fastboot flash recovery recovery.img as i have s-off and desire doesnt recognise the zip

same, recovery hagds and doesnt boot.

flashed amonRA back, would love to see progress with this. hating pinch only
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bemymonkey:
That piece of news is how I and probably most of the other non-Incredible-users found this thread ;)... I'm guessing whoever posted the news only read the first post and assumed that it's for all devices - just like a few people posting in this thead are doing...

As much as I'd like to believe it, I'll wait for confirmation from the OP before I get my hopes up :(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chris2busy:
Yep...n1 and desire touchpannels are limited to 2 point detection and have the axis bug..if the dev were to find a way to software wise solve the multitouch bug,i'd be more than happy to donnate to support his cause..but even to be tested, it would have to be modified to work with desire/n1 ..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Rastaman-FB:
i would imagine its all incredibles considering its in the droid incredible forum.

i think xda devs didnt help by posting it on front page as if it meant all androids
[Droid Incredible Android Development] yolo2die:
1. Amoled

2. No

3. AtmelC03_16ac

4.0002
[Droid Incredible Android Development] heliumv2:
what about the hd2 leo?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
It's inc only.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] paul13243546:
If there was any way you could develop this for the Nexus One, it would be greatly appreciated, not to mention you would have gobs of us donating to our hero.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] santong7:
Has anyone tested it, on Gt540 (LG Optimus) ?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
If yall want to try it find a kernel with the multitouch hack for YOUR device and use cwm 2.5.0.5 to flash the kernel. Simple as that

Clockwork was changed after that version so when u use it to flash kernels it somehow skips the multitouch hack. If you never could get it then u won't. The hack is not AND I REPEAT not included in the recovery. It's kernel related

By all devices it means all 3 versions of the incredible

1.Amoled with old touch sensor

2.Amoled with new touch sensor

3.slcd with new touch sensor ( this is the one that doesn't support multitouch beyond 2)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bumsoil:
i second this.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
Not possible, Leo has a different touch sensor that doesn't support it
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kamranh3:
I have a Desire HD which sports an SLCD screen, and I want to try this out, what exactly do I need to do?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
Check out my post above, and talk with your kernel devs to include the hack. The recovery will not work on ur device
[Droid Incredible Android Development] radu_wizu:
even though the desire/n1 might have hardware limitation..is there no way to make the software compensate for that. There is no need for 10 points,2 that work for rotation and everything will do very good. And ofc the team that makes this true will get some $ for their hard work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rickytenzer:
If I can find a way to pump even MORE power out of my N1, I will SURELY donate money to the dev. What an AWESOME project.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] VLADSLAYER:
it can work on my desire?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lele5800:
how i can try it on my magic 32A ?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ketnoitinhyeu:
does it work for HTC DESIRE HD ?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
No.. no... no... no..

See these are Droid incredible forums. Therefore this is a dinc mod
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nopain9nogain:
Will this work with the Milestone 2 ?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Snowtoad23:
This is Droid forum but the OP clearly states it should be able to work for ANY DEVICE WITH AN AMOLED SCREEN.

So what will it need to work with Desire/Legend etc?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] turboguy:
You are all taking this way out of context. He is talking about the Incredible AMOLED version vs the SLCD version. Almost everyone who has the AMOLED version of the Incredible has been able to get more than 2-finger multi-touch to work.

I guess technically his post should read: "I am fairly confident that all amoled Incredibles are able to get either 3 or 5 point multi touch." But seeing how these are the Incredible forums that shouldn't be necessary.

The Nexus One has a completely different touch sensor than the Incredible. The multi-touch bugs on the Nexus are hardware issues and this recovery does nothing to resolve them. I assume the Desire/Legend also have different touch sensors, but I'm not positive.

You are all welcome to flash this, but I would highly recommend against it as it is not made for any device other than the HTC Incredible. Also, I can guarantee that this will do nothing to fix the multi-touch issues on other devices.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
i would like to clearly state that the RECOVERY IS NOT THE SOURCE OF MULTITOUCH!!! IT IS A KERNEL HACK!!!!!!! and last i checked kernels nor recoveries are universal.... so go bug your devs about it, i seriously doubt anything besides the few desire hd people that this is possible

anything with the new touch sensors from htc obviously have it. anything built before the incredible or evo i do believe will not support it
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bemymonkey:
So, which idiot posted this on the front page of XDA without checking which subforum it was in? :rolleyes:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chris2busy:
Ah come on man :P i am pretty sure some more respect to the hard working mods of a forum with litteraly millions of posts,wouldn't kill ya...anyway i know where you come from..i got too excited from the possibility of a fix for my desire too...

/delete bookmark
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bemymonkey:
Who posts a news article about a forum thread without reading it first? :rolleyes:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Amon_RA:
Why don't you guys just flash kernels manually instead of using the "Any Kernel Updater" method to flash kernels in recovery?

The "any kernel updater"-method is there so you can basically swap kernel for any boot image and the kernel dev doesn't need to make a boot image for each and every rom around.

The "any kernel updater" runs a few scripts in recovery mode to unpack your boot image, replace the kernel, repack the boot image and flash it. Just check the updater-script for more details.

If any of the scripts fail your new boot image will probably not be flashed and your MT kernel "hacks" will not work.

Any kernel-freak around knows how to unpack and repack a boot image, so kernel swapping should be really easy... you can even do it without recovery.

fastboot

boot <kernel> [ <ramdisk> ] download and boot kernel

flash:raw boot <kernel> [ <ramdisk> ] create bootimage and flash it

You can also contact Koush and inform him that the "any kernel updater" sometimes doesn't do what it should do. I'm sure it's fixable.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] iceman4601:
1.AMOLED

2.10

3.Amtel x0080-x0016

4.Hardware 0002

after flashing the the new recovery if worked perfectly. wouldn't work before great job.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
I've actually never been able to use fastboot to flash (actually more importantly just boot a kernel without flashing, which would make life a LOT easier), I always get FAILED (remote: not allowed). Not sure why, racked my brains about it for awhile and eventually gave up. Any ideas?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] yolo2die:
Any one have any luck getting more than 2 on multi-touch with this touch screen

Atmel_x004f_x0016
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wdfowty:
1. Yes

2. No, two touches only

3. ATMEL_x004F_x0016

4. 0003

Using HeyItsLou's #7 and supplied SLCD recovery.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] scuccia:
Just wanted to say this working perfect for me. I'm not sure what panel I have since I have a refurbished phone. On VZW.com it says it's SLCD but I'm getting 10 working touch points.

As a side note, I am getting much faster NANDROID backups and restores. It used to take forever to the md5 checksum to build and verify. The time now has been cut in half with this recovery.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
Edit. Wrong post
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chemical1der:
1.AMOLED

2.10

3.Amtel x0080-x0016

4.Hardware 0002

fantastic job chad0989!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
1.AMOLED

2.10!!!

3.Amtel x0080-x0016

4.Hardware 0002

Using Lou's #7, only tried *after* flashing Chad's recovery mod.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] frostincredible:
Just installed, booting now, will edit with results.

EDIT:

1. AMOLED

2. 10 touches!!!

3. Amtel x0080-x0016

4. 0002
[Droid Incredible Android Development] yolo2die:
Something tells me this touch hardware will not do more than 2 touch, I have tried everything and its a NO go!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
1. AMOLED

2. 10 touches

3. Amtel x0080_x0016

4. 0002

Kernel: Lou's #7

Rom: Incredibly Re-engineered 2.10

P.S. Is there any way that you can implement the smooth scrolling in your modified recovery? Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
After smooth scrolling was implemented into a recovery I believe the multitouch hacks stopped working
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
Ahhh... Thanks for the info.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
U could always try this

Download cwm 2.5.1.1 and 2.5.1.2 in Rom manager

Go into the clockwork folder on ur phone and find the two images. Keep 2.5.1.2 and use the image u use for the multitouch and rename it exactly like the 2.5.1.1 img

This was you can switch back and forth between recoveries

One for kernels

One for everything else
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DesireC:
It's beautiful. Works like Clockworkmod but has 10-point multitouch with HeyItsLou's kernel and a couple different Z roms.

AMOLED

Version 0002

ATMEL_x0080_x0016
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chaosbringer:
AMOLED Dinc.

Skyraider Athena

Incredikernel

Installed this and now i have 3 point multitouch when no other fix would work.

I think some are locked to only 3 max.(mine being the case)

but thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chaosbringer:
Would this work on gingerbread roms?

Im testing CM7 but want the multi touch.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] m89maru:
1. SLCD

2. 3 Touches

3. ATMEL_x0080_x0016

4. MIUI v.0.5 1.1.14.1 with 2.6.32.26-invisiblek #28
[Droid Incredible Android Development] m89maru:
I just decided to play around with the kernels and I swapped invisiblek with Tiamat Version 2.2.1 and I now have 10 points of touch

1. SLCD

2. 10 Touches

3. ATMEL_x0080_x0016

4. MIUI v.0.5 1.1.14.1 with Tiamat 2.2.1
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Penguissimo:
Forgive the stupidity of this question, but did you do this as well as flashing the file in the OP? Or was flashing the Tiamat kernel enough to get multi-touch working?

Edit: Decided just to jump in and flashed both according to the instructions in the OP. Still nothing:

1. SLCD

2. 2 touches

3. ATMEL_x0080_x0016

4. CM 6.1 with Tiamat 2.2.1
[Droid Incredible Android Development] m89maru:
Well I did both like you did, to answer your question but I found that 2.2.1 doesn't allow use of USB SD mounting, so someone in that thread mentioned to use 2.1.5 and with that one I only have 5 points of touch
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hachamacha:
1. SLCD

2. 2 Touches

3. ATMEL_x0080_x0016

4. My own hacked senseless stock with 01212011 BFS ziggy (should have 3-5 touches).

I used the 2nd (cwm 2.5.1.8?) .zip you supplied to install this kernel. The kernel is pretty nice and solid, but it was the same when installed using 2.5.1.2.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chaosbringer:
Does not work on any 2.3 roms (Tried out with CM 7 but no dice).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
Not with the stock kernel. But have you tried Tiamat?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=885217

From it's OP:

"Notes on Multi-Touch

This kernel does support multi-touch and should select between 3 and 5 points based on your hardware. If you are stuck with only two points, the problem is likely so to a recent update in the ClockworkMod Recovery. Please see Chad0989'a how-to on downgrading here."
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chaosbringer:
From the CM Thread

So from my understanding its either Multi Touch OR half working wifi...lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hachamacha:
Chad,

Did you create 2.5.1.8 (the 2nd link for SLCD users) in the original post) from source? I ask because I don't see 2.5.1.8 as a download on the 'usual clockworkmod recovery downloads' site. I didn't notice if that was open source.

It seems to work well for me for the normal uses of backup/recovery. This isn't anything about multi-touch. No matter what combo of anything, I get two. I'm more interested in solid backups I can recover.

Thanks,

Hashi
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
Yeah. I built it from source with some changes and a kernel I added.slcd support to.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hachamacha:
Well, my compliments to you for doing so. It may not make an SLCD multitouch, but it is a decent version of CWM.

Thanks - Hashi
[Droid Incredible Android Development] armageddon528:
Epic HD2...

Is it possible to install this one on HD2? Where is hboot :D I don't think that it is this one with HSPL tricolour... So maybe from MAGLDR or Recovery menu... :rolleyes:

;( Is it possible at all?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ihtfp69:
Don't flame me for asking this; It's simply a question. What are the practical applications for having more than 2 or even 5 touch points? Are there applications that require or can use more than two (besides the test app)? I can think this would come in handy typing on a full size tablet, by how does it benefit our phone?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wdfowty:
it might benefit some emulators, i have no idea. I have not found a definitive reason to need it, but you can sure brag about it to your friends lol.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] setexascustoms:
Good question indeed, I think bragging rights more than anything. :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
Good point

I believe if the demand for this came so high because of a app that requires it then HTC would include this

Otherwise its useless

ppa adx gnisu elbidercni ym morf tnes
[Droid Incredible Android Development] setexascustoms:
Dude, your XDA App signature is backwards. ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kmcrane:
Lou has 2 kernels I believe #4 and #6, both identical, but 6 has multi-touch support. On my phone i believe or at least it feels (and that is what is important) that i had better accuracy while texting and less lag. No science, just the feel of the phone.

p.s. I follow you on twitter and appreciate your game insights, and clever tweets.

you were my first rom thanks for getting me hooked!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gwallers:
Is there anyway to make 2.5.1.8 stick so that you don't have to flash it everytime you want to use it. Basically asking can you replace 2.5.1.2 with this so that i don't have to update it everytime i goto flash?

just wondering...

thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hachamacha:
Once it's flashed , it's there. All that matters is that when you boot into recovery, that from inside recovery it says 2.5.1.8. Rom Manager uses it's own little persistent cache of misinformation that will tell you what "It" last did, not reality.

Don't bother ever reflashing it until you actually want to change recoveries.

Clockworkmod is the only part that matters.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gwallers:
thanks for bringing this to my attention.. i see what was going on now.. I flash a lot of roms and everytime i would reinstall clockworkmod I was reflashing back to 2.5.1.2... So now I will just stay away from that and keep rolling with the 2.5.1.8....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pokedroid:
NO multitouch :(

So get a load of this, I use the "multitouch test" app, and I can register two touches, but it will only track the movement of one finger. If I try to flash ANY MT kerkel, my screen stops being able to register ANY touches. So... I have 1... any rom, any kernel... has anyone else experienced anything like this?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wdfowty:
You're gonna have to post more info than that...

Answer the questions in the first post, someone might be able to help you then.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lolmensch:
would be awesome. some people say it's hardware limitation and others say it is kernel related.

as we have recovery now, can't somebody who is smarter than us have a sneak peak at it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] abrin:
Tried both fixes on my AMOLED DINC with no luck. Multiouch still only can see 2 touches. Running Evervolv Gingerbread Beta 3. Anyone have a clue how to fix?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wdfowty:
Yes, you would need an HD2 kernel for it to work, possibly more modifications. Truth is, I don't think a lot of us Inc users even know what MAGLDR is, much less how Android works on the HD2.

You should bring this to the attention of a developer on that side of the forum, though I'm not quite sure it would even benefit you guys. Not sure if your touch hardware can handle more than 2 touches or not.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
His hardware doesnt, i believe it is similar to the Nexus when it comes to touch hardware
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wdfowty:
Sooooo...absolute rubbish?

:p
[Droid Incredible Android Development] djh816:
You need all parts working together. One of the version of clockwork recovery broke the capability so this recovery supposedly fixes that. That does not mean that you will instantly have mor than 2 point multitouch. THEN the kernel has to have support for it as well. Also, if it is not a kernel that is native (ie, running a .32 kernel under gingerbread), theres even less chance it will work. Basically though, if you have a KERNEL saying that it has multitouch and you still don't get multitouch under the environment you should be using that kernel with, chad's recovery here will help because most likely you just have a newer version of clockwork which breaks 3+ point multitouch.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] USSENTERNCC1701E:
1) Yes, SLCD

2) No, only 2 touches

3) AMTEL_x004F_x0016

OMFGB 1.1

2.6.37-incredikernel-gb
[Droid Incredible Android Development] yolo2die:
I have the same touch screen but with amoled....mine also is only 2 touch, must be that version of the touch screen that won't work? Not sure if that's been confirmed but I seem to think so.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Damn, looks like we only get 3 max, s197 cred amonRA. Oh well, I can't think of a time I've felt the need to use more than two touch points, but still a bummer.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] alex2308:
Is this thing meant to work only for HTC Incredible? I have a Dell Streak 7, will it work, too?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
It's a recovery image for the Incredible only.

Sent from my ADR6300
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
Holy revived thread, Batman, this thread is back from the dead.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
Although speaking of multi touch recoveries. 5.x broke it again. Last it worked was on 3.0.0.7 (AMOLED). Not that it's really needed.

Sent from my ADR6300
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ithrewitontheground:
I'd really like to have it again. I contacted Koush through email, google plus and twitter about it, but he never responded to me.
[HD7 General] fastguebo:
love the os but is not a keeper im going over to the dark side even hating itunes but things are more settle over there, sorry ms maybe next year. all im asking is 300 plus shiping or trade for iphone 4. i will miss those perfect xbox live games.
[HD7 General] DaveShaw:
Thread Closed.

Device sales in the Marketplace only..
[Captivate General] Sublim3_Tilt:
I flashed Axura RC 2.5 between Christmas and New Years. Everything seems to be good with the exception of me not being able to pick up 3g coverage in places where I normally would. I have had an H, 90% of the time and its nowhere near as fast as 3g. Should I try a different modem before finding a different ROM?
[Captivate General] crystalhand:
No h is faster. Can't remember what it stands for but its basically 3.5g more then likely your mind isjust making it seem slower bc you are paying more attention to the speeds. Most of the roms our there don't use 3g they use hsda our whatever it is called
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
H = HSDPA

AT&T 3G = HSDPA.

It's not faster nor slower. The same thing. AT&T insist on only display 3G on all its phones when you run AT&T stock firmware.

And if you flashed a Euro ROM you may lose 850Mhz 3G support (ask the chief for confirmation of 850 support). AT&T now shifts a lot of 3G towers towards 850Mhz, instead of the old 1900Mhz.

Technically, 3G on GSM world could mean plain UMTS, HSDPA, HSPA+ etc. In the old days, AT&T has a mixture of UMTS and HSDPA depending on which city you were in. Hence the requirement from AT&T to display 3G for all 3G signal types. Nowadays, all its 3G towers has been updated to HSPA+ but Captivate hardware is limited to HSDPA only.
[Captivate General] n0stalgia:
Doesn't ATT still have UMTS? My Perception 10 shows H = HSDPA and 3g = UMTS

yes?
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
UMTS is what HSDPA built on. AT&T no longer has plain old UMTS. According to its CES 2011 press release, AT&T has finished upgrade 100% of its 3G towers to HSPA+.
[Captivate General] Sublim3_Tilt:
Now what about mobile ap, I can connect to my laptop but with limited or no connectivity with full H service? Would that be an issue with the rom? They closed the Axura thread so I cant get all my question answered.
[Captivate General] n0stalgia:
You're right

H = HSPA (HSDPA + HSUPA)

3G = HSDPA