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[myTouch 4G General] tmagritte:
I've currently got an Acer Liquid E which has 512 MB RAM but I need an AWS phone now.

The phone has 512 MB RAM but only part of that is allocated for storing apps and their data. I believe after a clean wipe only around 70 MB is available for apps (I could be wrong about that number). I believe the rest of the RAM is reserved for the OS and various caches. Even though many apps can be moved to the SD card, there always remains part of the app taking up memory in RAM so if you install too many apps you'll eventually run out of space and things get ugly.

So my question is whether the larger amount of RAM (an extra 256MB) is (at least partially) available for a larger amount of app space, or whether the amount of space available for apps is the same as on a 512MB device, with the additional 256MB being used only by the OS...

I'm sure I've got some of the details wrong, but still the basic question: can the MyTouch 4G have more apps installed before going wonky than say a Samsung Vibrant?

Thanks!
[myTouch 4G General] HyperNode:
No wonder you got confused I just looked up the spec for Acer Liquid E. It has 512MB ram and rom. Now you are saying that you installed alot of apps and its becoming sluggish? In that case disable some of the service and close some apps you don't use. Normally you won't have 512MB or the actual ram in any device as OS itself and other things use some memory some even used for accelerated graphic depending on the phone.

What you should look for is first remove all the boltware and run the phone barebone without running many things then you can see how much actual memory is available to you to run other service/apps. Also you can save the app as in installing in SD but that has nothing to do with the RAM which is just saving in SD and not in NAND. But when you run the app it will still have to be allocated on RAM thus enabling you to use it.
[myTouch 4G General] tmagritte:
On my system the RAM appears to be partitioned into /system, /data, and /cache. It seems the /data partition is what's available for use by apps. When this gets low (around 20 MB or so) performance is seriously affected and some apps don't even work right. On my system there is 200MB available for data. I assume it's similar on other devices with 512 MB RAM.

One way to check is install the free app "App 2 SD Free" and on the "On phone" tab at the bottom it will give you total and available memory. (I'm sure there are lots of other ways to check, but it's one app I've got installed that has this info. Here's a link: whoop's it won't let me post a link...)

Anyway, what I'm trying to find out is if there's more available memory on the MyTouch 4G. If someone with this phone could run this app let me know what the "total" memory "On Phone" is I'd appreciate it!

Thanks!
[myTouch 4G General] borodin1:
You have your definitions messed up:

You are talking about ROM (read only memory) which is like hard drive in your computer. MT4G has 2gb of memory with about 1gb available to end user. SD card can be used to supplement ROM, if app developers enable it (most do) so you have the potential to have up to 17gb of storage space for apps.

RAM (random access memory) is what used to actually run those apps (i.e ability to multitask) and so far this phone has more RAM then any other phone on the market (768MB).

In short: you have roughly 5 times more available memory for apps then on old phone and that does not even include SD card.

Does that help?
[myTouch 4G General] tmagritte:
Ignore this post: read the one below.
[myTouch 4G General] tmagritte:
OK, I think I've been confused because the Acer has 512 MB RAM and ROM. So as I understand it now, there's some amount of ROM on the phone that is available to install apps and separate from this is the RAM used to run the apps. I'm guessing the amount of RAM taken up by apps depends on the apps and services currently running, not on the total installed in the ROM?

So having more ROM will let you install more apps but having more RAM will be better for multitasking and speed since more apps can reside in RAM before being swapped out?

From what I've picked up on this thread and Google:

MyTouch 4G: 758 MB RAM, 1 GB user ROM

Vibrant: 512 MB RAM, 2 GB user ROM

Liquid E: 512 MB RAM, 200 MB user ROM

The Vibrant can have more apps installed but the MyTouch should be better at multitasking (and 1 GB space for apps seems like plenty). Either phone should be far better than the Liquid which is seriously constrained by the small ROM.

Is this generally correct? If so, I'm definitely leaning towards the MyTouch 4G.

thanks!
[myTouch 4G General] HyperNode:
Yes thats some what correct. In this case you might want to go with MT4G due to superior hardware capabilities. Vibrant has issues and you will need lagfix before you can work it fully but on MT4G is good to go out of the box if you are android normal user.

If you look at quadrant benchmarks for Vibrant against MT4G. The MSM8255 (2nd gen snapdragon) CPU and Adreno 205 GPU blows away the Hummingbird CPU and SGX 540 GPU. ATM MT4G and DHD is the fastest android device in market. With MT4G you have elegant balance in ROM/RAM for nice performance. BTW MT4G has 4GB ROM but 1GB user accessible.
[myTouch 4G General] tmagritte:
Thanks. I'm going to try and get the MT4G.
[Droid 2 General] zen123:
As the title says how is it done?

I've already used about:debug & changed UA string to desktop but none of the websites I frequent are defaulting to desktop versions.
[Droid 2 General] miketoasty:
Same thing happens to me on the Droid 2. There is no way to always get it to work just keep looking for the "Full Website" link on the bottom of your favorite websites. Just my .02.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bcudd23:
can someone help me with not getting service on my epic after it is rooted? Is there a step i am missing?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cjobanion:
What process did you use to root? Did you use Odin? If so, it sounds like the modem.bin file may not have loaded correctly.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] musclehead84:
why is this in development?

Sent from my Evo killer!
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fetalp:
Odin the DK28 modem
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HARDROCK1472:
I used z4root from applanet and it works fine
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leatherneck6017:
Last I checked z4root was free. So why did you d/l it from an illegal warez app?
[Epic 4G Themes] BeerChameleon:
Apps:

1.TIKL: Walkie Talkie App that works on 3g/4g and WIFI

2. Tango: Best Video Calling App that works better then QIK and fring as well as cross platform to iphone on 3g :)

3. Websharing: Awesome wifi file transfer that allows you to use 3g and wifi to share files from your phone to computer including, cutting,pasting upload delete.

4. Printer Share (Not Free but worth buying): Great Wifi printer app that lets you print anything you want off your phone..

5. Tune in Radio: Web Radio as well as streaming your local FM Radio Stations!!

6. Shazamm Encore: Awesome Music Identifier by listening to the song.

7. Slingplayer Mobile: If you have a slingbox this allows you to watch your cable box anywhere you go as well as records shows and what not

Games:

1. Trap: Jezzball Clone however more fun with power ups and items, so addicting!!!

2. Rat's Retaliation: Perfect Clone Of "Rodents Revenge"

3.Drums: Best Drum Set ive used on the market for free.

4. Xpiano: Awesome Full piano app

5. Chips Advanced: Chips Challenge For GBA Emulator, which i posted far back on the last page of games and apps.

These are my favorite free apps and they take me back to Microsofts Entertainment Pack, gotta love those games.

Have Fun with my recommendations!!

MOD EDIT: It is illegal to post links to warez or paid for apps on this site. Asking or linking to apps that are paid for, for free is against the rules and will not be tolerated.
[Epic 4G Themes] swanysto:
I second TIKL. Use it all the time.

Also, X Construct is a really fun, challenging game.
[Epic 4G Themes] nate13jp:
Your missing angry birds!
[Epic 4G Themes] decalex:
I need a fruit ninja support group.
[Epic 4G Themes] BeerChameleon:
I know I thought angry birds and fruit ninja were a given.. also I might add one more however needs some bugs worked out I recconebd. ZUMA REVENGE THE FREE ONE ITS LEGIT!!! SO AWESOME!

Sent from my awesome epic 4g
[Epic 4G Themes] kfett82:
Heytell works really well. Its similar to TIKL but can be used across phone platforms.

Soundhound works much better than shazam.
[Epic 4G Themes] flawlessbmxr:
i've been trying to find a file sharing program similar to websharing that you have listed but the exact opposite. i want to view files on my pc with my phone :( ive tried all with no luck that i could find
[Epic 4G Themes] rfahndrich:
Check out DropBox. It is pretty cool and might do what you want.
[Epic 4G Themes] flawlessbmxr:
I'm not sure dropbox can stream videos. That's the main thing I would like to use. I've tried orb and it would setup correctly but the phone wouldnt see it
[Epic 4G Themes] lviv73:
Spiderman HD and Stunt Jet Cars are two best games I played so far and they play and look more like PS2 games.
[Epic 4G Themes] lviv73:
Oh and NewsRoom is the app that I use the most.You can read tech and other news feeds real eazy.
[Epic 4G Themes] BeerChameleon:
TIKL Works from android to android to iphone, i mean no one i know have any other type of phones.

In my opinion Soundhound blows, i tried using it and it can not identifiy well at all, shazamm usually finds everything.

Stunt Jet cars i play on my ipod touch and i love it and i have it on android so just a bonus. Ill have to try the spiderman game.
[Epic 4G Themes] bjhill2112:
I haven't gotten it to work yet, but I think that VLC has some promise for streaming media.

DropBox is great for just sharing files.

As far as other stuff I've found...

If you are an MMO junkie, there is Pocket Legends of course to get your mobile fix. But to check in with your friends, Ventriloid (free Ventrilo client) is a MUST have.

Until Skype gets their act together, check out ooVoo - does great video chat and has a desktop client! The paid version lets you do up to 6 way video conferences.
[Epic 4G Themes] 265ada:
PLEASE help me find these games

I can't find this game???? where is it? jet car stunts? or stunt jet cars??? or spiderman HD
[Epic 4G Themes] codest3r:
I prefer TiKL over HeyTell. HeyTell is not realtime. HeyTell is not real PTT. It's got a purtier UI though. :)

Sent from my Epic 4G on XDA App
[Epic 4G Themes] kenvan19:
You really shouldn't mention being able to get apps for free. A paid app is paid to compensate the developer and even if you aren't directly to the pirated app you are supporting it which goes against everything these forums stand for.
[Epic 4G Themes] Whosdaman:
It is illegal to post links to warez or paid for apps on this site. Asking or linking to apps that are paid for, for free is against the rules and will not be tolerated.
[Epic 4G Themes] bomix:
I'll have to try out newsroom I use Pulse for RSS feeds.

Need for Speed is great.. best racing game on this phone IMO,

ALso try GURK.. good ole 8 bit RPG gaming.. it's soo addicting..

I just discovered a new app on the Epic General fourms.. called Droid Streamer

What a great app!
[Epic 4G Themes] Koadic:
A little off topic, but to address flawlessbmxr's problem with orb... of course assuming everthing works except for the actual streaming.

To get orb to work over 3g (should already work over wifi) you will need to edit your RTSP Proxy Address one of two ways...

The first way requires that you know your MSL code for your phone... Enter ##DATA# into your dialer and you will be taken to a hidden menu, from there go in to Multimedia (or 'Edit->Others->Multimedia' if your on DK28 (or other Froyo)) and change the RTSP Address to 0.0.0.0

The second way requires that you have LauncherPro, ADW Ex (newest regular ADW might work too), or Any Cut installed on your phone. Just add a shortcut to one of your home screens and choose 'Activities->com.android.hiddenmenu->Multimedia(.Multimedia_Edit)' (as listed in DK28, may be slightly different in DI18)and then change your address as above. If your running ADW, you may need to choose Custom Shortcut, and click on Pick an activity to create the shortcut.
[Epic 4G Themes] running_the_dream:
I've been using droidstreamer for a little over a week now. It does NOT have many vids. But, it does have full length movies and tv shows for streaming. It worked in 3g and 4g for me. And it's free :). I usually just download shows and movies to my sd card and play through my video player though.
[Streak 5 General] ABD33D:
hi all ... today my streak can't see the SD card !!! i don't know why !!!

the sd card is mounted .. when i go to sittings and try to unmount the sd card to mount it again >>> the launcher hang ... !! and force close

my menu now have only the application installed in phone memory

i turned off the mobile and eject the sd card many times ... same !!

even if i connect the mobile with my PC , the notification in tool bar didn't show u as usual to copy and ... etc .

i can explore my sd card now only through ROOT EXPLORER application .

lately i added 4 folders " ringtones ,alarms,notifications and UI sounds " inside ( SD card\media ) which a take from this topic

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10415362#post10415362

I don't know is that thing makes the problem ???

please help me ... :(

official 2.2 rooted

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thanks
[Streak 5 General] freepal08:
try to format it by memory card reader
[Off-topic] slicknessessity:
I've looked at a couple of threads in many forums (including this one) and was contemplating on this idea for a while before I came here. If this question was asked, then pardon me for posting a repeated question.

I've recently been testing Google Voice on both my phone and computer. I got a Google number and was able to make a call directly on my computer to so many people on Gmail and Google Voice website (no apps), so I assume that Google Voice uses voip technology. If that's the case, is it possible to get an unlimited data plan without talk and/or text for a good low price and use Google Voice over it to save a couple of $$$? And if so, what would be the best carrier to use in the US?
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
Not sure where you can get them from.. But something like an iPad plan sounds right ;) Just internet :D
[Off-topic] slicknessessity:
I'm looking for something closer to an android powered phone, or a wm6. If there's a good plan for one of those, then I'm all for it.
[Off-topic] DanWilson:
He meant taking out an iPad plan, without the iPad.

Like use the SI-- Oh you can't.

Damn MicroSIMs. If you can get an adapter, then there you go.

Otherwise, keep looking.
[Off-topic] DavidinCT:
I think that he really means....

Is there a App for Android or WP6+ (What I am looking for too) that will make calls with Google voice and not use any air time, only VOIP calls through google voice ?

Right now, in the US, Verizon still offers unlimited internet access, not like AT&T caps at 2gb...
[Off-topic] slicknessessity:
I did some searching and found that there are micro sim to sim adatpors. But the service only caps at 2GB. It may work, but I am a heavy data user. If there's any other plans out there that offers unlimited data for a good price, then I may just go with that.
[Off-topic] slicknessessity:
If there is an app to do that, then that works too, but I'd rather still get rid of the air time service and go with an unlimited plan only to save a couple of bucks.
[Off-topic] booyakasha:
I've looked into doing this same thing, but nobody in the US is eager to hand out data only plans. Additionally, Sprint is the only company (correct me if I'm wrong) that still has true, unlimited data, others have switched to a 5gig cap, which is still likely sufficient for your needs.

One way you might be able to get around it, and this may not be MORALLY sound, is to say you are hearing impaired and thus, aren't willing to pay for the voice portion of your plan. :confused:
[Off-topic] slicknessessity:
Hmm. I could use this method for a family member of mine. He's hearing impaired, but he is on the internet a lot and he may be interested in that. I wonder if I can ask Sprint (or whom ever) if I can do that as well.

So many phone companies are getting rid of their unlimited data plan, so it's hard to find a good one. I heard that T-mobile has a reputation of having bad signal, but they have the no contract unlimited data plan for $50/mo, but given what I heard of their reputation, I'm not so sure it's worth it.
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
Tmobile's signal strength varies. I am in Jersey City, New Jersey and their signal and speed is very good. However, the fifty dollar plan is for internet cards or usb dongles. They do have a $40 data and unlimited texting plan for the galaxy tab... I have both tmobile and sprint and tmo's hspa+ kicks sprints wimax butt

Sent from my Llama powered N1 courtesy of the xda app! Llama Power!!
[Captivate Themes and Apps] cybercoaster:
Is there an app that can scan bar codes into Memo or a document on your phone? I think it would be a cool way to enter serial numbers of items for inventory.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] kdwolf85:
+1

10 chars
[Captivate Themes and Apps] cappysw10:
You mean like this?

http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/finance/scan-to-spreadsheet_kzay.html
[Captivate Themes and Apps] cybercoaster:
Why yes just like that! Thanks. Dont know why my search couldnt find it!

Thanks again.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] mustking:
Ok, i am a newbie like most of us... To load my first rom it take 18 hours of work and to save your those hours here is an easy to use guide to load the new rom plus to root....

READ EVERYTHING BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING.

I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU BRICK YOUR DEVICE.

My Device currently running:

SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H

HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP10000)

CPLD-12

RADIO 3.22.20.17

Jun 2 2009,17:28:28

Currently running firmware 2.2.1 previously running 1.5 with no market in applications and no google aps in application menu....

I done all this on Windows 7 32 bit and all worked fine....

Step: 1: Download and install HTC Sync... and sync your mobile to save your contacts to outlook.. i have outlook 2010 and it worked fine with it...

Download HTC Sync from: http://www.htc.com/mea-en/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=303&act=sd&cat=all

Step: 2: SPL is optional... So, skip it or don't come crying if you bricked your phone.

Step: 3: Refer to the following post:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=756918

and follow step 0,1,2,3,4,5 and 7

Step: 4: Congratulate! you have now Rooted device with custom recovery to load the rom easily...

Step: 5: Download and put the rom on your SD card formated with FAT32 file system and rename the downloaded rom file to update.zip

Get the rom from: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=794453

Step: 6: Turn off your HTC and start with pressing Home + Power button and you will get the screen where you can select wipe the data first and then select Flash zip from sdcard...

Step: 7: Wait it will take 10-15 minutes to update... and Yahoo you have working 2.2.1 with market and all google apps in applicaiton menu....

Step: 8: After custom rom installed... HTC Sync may or may not work and it all depend on your rom.. So, if HTC Sync didn't worked download and install this:

http://www.fjsoft.at/en/downloads.php

This program is same like HTC Sync and will help you to sync your contact back from your outlook to your HTC Magic... But, make sure the USB Debugging option is selected before you start using the program and then from option the menu in myphoneexplorer select to sync contacts with Outlook...

Step: 9: If you like my work just hit THANKS....
[myTouch 4G Accessories] ivanh3:
So I just got my Seidio Innocase Surface combo (50 bucks from the Seidio site). I have owned Seidio cases or holsters for just about every smartphone I have owned. I normally wait for them to show up at other outlets because they are usually cheaper, but this time I couldn't wait.

Starting with the case. For me it is a mixed bag. My last Seidio case was for my iPhone 3GS, and I loved it. I am not so sure about this case. The two halves fit the phone well, and the cut outs are seem accurate, but the connection seems a bit flimsy. I had to make several attempts to get all the "connections" to click together. This design for connecting the two halves together doesn't feel as secure as my iPhone case. This case connects front to back. The iPhone design joined a top to a bottom. The iPhone was inserted into the top and was very secure. The MT4G case just does not inspire confidence in me.

Barring the two halves separting the case feels great. It is nice and tight on the phone. Update: No, it is not tight! More info in another post below. The Innocase Surface has a rubberized finish which gives it a good no-slip grip. The case doesn't add any real bulk to the phone. It still slips into the pocket with no problems. I ordered the sapphire blue which is really dark. In medium to low light it almost looks black. I really like that.

The holster is just as awesome as any Seidio holster I have owned. It feels solid, and I love that it is felt lined, and the phone faces in. No issues there except one, and that goes back to the case. When the phone comes out of the case the clip rubs across the case where the two halves join together, and I have to pull on the phone in such a way that I wonder if I will end up pulling off the case. It hasn't happened and it might not. Again, going back to my recent iPhone case, there was no danger of the case separating when being pulled out of the holster because the force is mostly front to back (remember the phone face inward).

Bottom line: mixed feelings. Holster: awesome. Case: jury is still out. I will trial this and see how it goes. I am already eyeballing some TPU cases. I am not sure if they will work with the holster, but they are cheap.

I am not advising against buy this combo, but I would wait for these Seidio cases to show up at other locations and save a few bucks.

Hope this helps.

Ivan

Ps: I also purchased the Seidio 1600 mAh battery. I will post a review of that after I have charged it properly and used it a bit.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] HyperNode:
Well I never used it before but like you also order the combo as I am not buying BodyGlove Clear shell any more. But far as the Innocell 1600mAh goes I want you to completely discharge it and then recharge it then discharge it do this 3 times and fully charge it.

Then check and post the full mAh, V_MBat voltage for stock and then Innocell so we can see the difference. Also do a though test and tell us the usage difference between stock and Innocell in detail with total uptime. I can't say I have ever heard of Innocell but ill wait for Mugen power to release MT4G stock size battery.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] ivanh3:
Not to hijack my own thread, but my understanding of Li-Ion batteries is that they do not need to be discharged/charged. I can't post links yet, but there is great website called "batteryuniversity" with loads of good battery info on it.

I see you have a Seidio case, what do you think of it so far?
[myTouch 4G Accessories] HyperNode:
Well I am aware of that as many is also that claiming fully discharging LiIo will damage the memory cell and shortens the life. But it always worked better for us and this is not just me it been tested by so many folks. For optical performance in my own test I found after 2-3 discharge completely and fully charging it over the course of 1week I saw the difference in same battery compared to when I got it.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] tackleberry:
I have been cycling most of my Li ion batts over the years and I have noticed a better performance out of them. I never did it 3 times.

Out of the box I kill the phone. The go to full charge. Kill it again and charge fully. After that I play normally.