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[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] verkion:
$8 SKU 51190 Battery and Charger on Dealextreme

$6.90 SKU 51210 Battery Only from Dealextreme

And yes, it does take a couple weeks because they are shipping out of HK. But they do eventually get here. I've ordered a tonne of stuff from them.

They have a handy retractable microUSB Car Adaptor + spare microUSB cable for $3-$4. And very good car mounts for $9 or so.

verkion
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] eatjello:
i watched it without sound. did he say chichitech battery? cause im pretty sure the evo and incredible batteries are red when oem.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] wilnotdie:
Lol I seen that on the news the other day and first thing I thought of was these batteries. I'm sure it would still help with a bullet some, being metal. Especially if it was in our g2 with metal cover lol. FTW!

So mugen's too? Perhaps ill just settle with alternating 3 oem batteries.

or ill prob buy the innocell 1700's

http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/basi17htg2.htm

Ps. After charging the chichi battery for about 10 hrs, not even sure if it does anything after the light turns blue, it seems to be working fine again. Maybe when it drains low enough it will do the same thing? We'll see lol...after 17.5 hrs of low usage its 52%.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] icEEE:
running the evo 1800mah battery with moderate usage. texting/calling/internet/zenonia throughout the day.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
Sorry for the tangent, what app makes the battery icon show the percentage? Or do I have to install and entire rom..?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Capt ZZzzz:
Any pics on the gap as I just ordered a 1800. Does it put strain on the cover
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] wilnotdie:
Not all phones and batteries are exactly the same. You may not have the gap problem. I have some pics I forgot to post a long time ago when I first got the batteries. Ill post them sometime tomorrow while at work.

::edit::

Pictures

Its not all that noticeable but its there. Im sure if you follow everyones steps and advise, perhaps sand it down, you might not have any problems.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] wilnotdie:
It only shut off once. I took it out for bout 10 secs, back in and it turned on until it reached 0 percent. Good so far. Also the other battery just seems dead. The charger says its charged but phone won't power on. Owell lol.

Ill follow up with the other battery again, its 100 percent charged again. Just in case anyone wants to hear my sorrows lol.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] eatjello:
ok i went back to OEM battery.

If anyone wants to buy a Mugen 1800 battery with the original box, i'll sell it for 35$ + you pay Shipping. I've only had it for two days. i discharged it twice fully. So it still hasn't even gotten out of it's cycle phase.

I also have a red chichi + wall charger for 20$ + you pay shipping. The chichi still has it's label, it has never been used. The wall charger has only been used once to fully charge the other chichi.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] JCreations:
Why are you selling the mugen?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] eatjello:
I notice a small back raise compared to OEM. but it could be fixed by taking the label off or something. we're talking less than a millimeter here. but i ACTUALLY have ocd. so it kills me.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] lsxrx7:
wilnotdie ... please make the pics bigger

all of us here running a screen res of 10240x7680
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Nighte:
I think he was trying to be helpful take macro shots of the back over, but because the camera quality was low it turned out bad. No need to be snarky.

On another note, I received my Mugen 1800 the other day and now I'm in the process of getting the battery up to speed.

So far so good, and the battery fits the phone well, doesn't stress the back cover in anyway.

I do suggest rather than going for the Chichi's, the Mugen would be a better choice. However I do understand that many are not willing to pay $45-50ish just for the battery.

I'll post back to see how well the battery holds after some use, but so far so good.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Capt ZZzzz:
Thaxs

Nighte and willnotdie, guess I will find out in the next week or so when the battery arrives.:)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] wilnotdie:
lol my bad. Im at work, I guess I wasn't paying full attention. I'll fix em in a min :)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] mr.boonet:
Does anyone know how i can get my hands on one in Belgium?? Or is ebay the only possibility?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Lucas155:
I bought the chichitec batteries off of ebay for around $27 after shipping (just gotta wait for an auction with a good price!).

They improve my battery life significantly and I would definitely recommend them. I haven't done an actual time test, but I know my phone isn't dead at the end of the day.

I did have to file off some of the plastic and some of the metal as well to get them to fit without a bulge. It scratched up the battery a bit, but at least the case sits flat now. I'd recommend them and I'd buy em again.

The included wall charger is just gravy.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] KoolKidsKlub:
I find it funny how people say that then they root their device which is a risk of bricking the device and if you do root it, and if it suddenly breaks or something then you can't unroot and exchange it. I'm not trying to be an butt or anything, I do the same thing with my phones, I'm just pointing that out ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] AZ2ENVY:
Lol well rooting is one thing but when you put an inferior product into

a phone for what it wasnt designed for and it looks tacky and rigged ,

then thats just negligence and ignorance ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Nighte:
Whoa, impressed already with the Mugen 1800.

Mugen suggests that the battery be charged and discharged 4-5 times for full performance. I discharged it to 3% before I took the screen shot and it said not to discharge the battery to 0% so I thought 3% was close enough.

I should note that this is the first day I've used the battery! It ended up at 3% at the time shown in the photo.

Throughout the day I was downloading and removing apps (I had to find a good music player and Music PlayerPro is far better than PowerAMP, the only thing PowerAMP has is an equalizer, but that produces awful sound. I personally find that it's an overrated app.) Anyway I was downloading and removing apps for an hour or so, listened to music for an hour or so, gamed for an hour or so (lots of free time today) and sent text messages here and there.

The battery life is already much better than the OEM 1300mAh. As of now, I would definitely recommend the Mugen 1800mAh over any other alternative battery solution; be it chichi, EVO, or any other manufacturer (unless HTC has one now?!).

I'll post another in a few days or something if I have time.

Edit: I'm also using the stock rom, which is why the display is devouring the battery at like 72%

It's also OC'd to 1.4GHz and I have VERY frequent update intervals running all the time.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] jojo_16:
Rooting has a lot more to give and its way more different on how u pointing at it not just any non compatible battery to compare with it.. just saying
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] fsrkewd:
is it safe to get it from ebay? are there any fake mugen?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
I used the red label battery yesterday. Usually my phone is dead or around 15% when i go to sleep. I layed in bed and looked last night. 59% still. LOL. No shut offs during the day. +1 in my book.

I cut through one when I cut off the notch lol. So somewhere down the line ill probably buy another one.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] funkadesi:
nope,

atleast not yet :rolleyes:
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Cheeze[iT]:
So is it not worth just getting a stock evo battery and using that?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] jojo_16:
Yes
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Nighte:
Third day with the battery, 1 hour more than day 1 (heavier usage too!)

I didn't try to conserve battery in anyway, just used it like I normally would, but I ended up using more than I usually do and it lasted longer still!

Again, it's at 3% when I decided to charge it again.

Almost 19 hours :)

Throughout the day, I browsed the net, viewed pdfs and powerpoints, listened to music, text, email, some other stuff.

Definitely an improvement to the stock battery!

Again, this is the Mugen 1800mAh.

Mugen suggests that users charge and discharge the battery 4-5 times to gain full performance; will update on performance sometime after the cycle is done.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] ~~Tito~~:
I ordered a Mugen Battery, is the battery the same size as stock? I bought a dock also, so I can charge both batteries at once, so that way when I discharge the Mugen battery completely I can just plop it in and get it out once the indicator light turns to what ever color means full. Is the battery heavy at all, and what ROM are you running?

Dock:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004H6N7XA
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Nighte:
Assuming you're talking to me,

All your questions should be answered in this thread (just read through) or this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=799183&page=63

But to answer your question, yes it's the same size so you don't need a special backing (if it's the Mugen 1800, any higher and you do); no stress is applied on the door either.

As for what ROM I'm using, just the stock ROM which is why the Display is the main source of battery consumption. It's overclocked to 1.4GHz though.

I'll probably upgrade when a finalized Gingerbread comes out or something.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] fn002449:
I also want this.. but they don't ship it to the Netherlands!! :(
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Nighte:
I used it like a maniac today, .pdf, .ppt, responding to emails, gaming, music, web browsing for extended periods of time.

Overall, very pleased with performance of the new battery.

Should I have time on a day where I used the battery conservatively, I will post again.

The last few posts I've drained the battery to 3% before I began charging, but I'm tired tonight and gotta get it charged for tomorrow so I stopped at 10%.

I'm running a different ROM as well, 2.3 Gingerbread, but like I said I used the phone extensively today. 2.3 is wonderful for all of you who are interested.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
Buddy of mine at work has the evo phone and he got a bigger battery, I asked him where the old smaller one was and he got it from the back of his car and gave it to me for free... score haha
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] eep02b:
Maybe i missed something, but is there a reason people haven't been trying the Innocell 1700 mAh battery for Seidio?? and if someone has tried it, how does it stack up to the mugen or the evo battery?? does anyone even have this battery??
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Broman400:
Isn't it about the same price as the Mugen 1800mah. Wouldn't you rather get 100mAh more for the same price
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] n3ph:
Hello, I bought a Mugen 1800mAh.

14h 6min into unplugging from outlet, I still had 39% left. Moderate use throughout the night. I did 5 discharge cycles prior to using. I didn't measure how long the stock battery took to die but I "feel" that I can use the phone more comfortably before my next recharge cycle (I only charge the phone in office) compared to stock. A difference from Nighte is that I'm running at stock 800mhz

For those contemplating one, the Mugen will fit Desire Z the same way as Stock one does. There's even a video on Mugen's website on replacing it with the Mugen.

@Nighte: Does overclocking to 1.4ghz increase battery consumption significantly? Also, from your Gingerbread post it seems that 2.3's battery consumption is similar to Froyo's as well (maybe a little better)?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] fsrkewd:
Mugen 1800mAh is out of stock everywhere...

was gonna pull the trigger
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Nighte:
Similar is an understatement, check it out:

17 Hours of use and 28% remaining (it's also overclocked to 1.5GHz since switching over to Gingerbread)!

I was also stressing my phone a lot that day because I was tweaking this and that and installing apps and stuff I forgot to install after I flashed the ROM.

And had to frequently use the phone for powerpoints, emails and whatnot.

Anyway, I think this will be my last update on the battery, it has proven itself.

I recommend it to all looking for an upgrade from the 1300mAh, Mugen 1800mAh!

Edit: To answer your question, I have no idea if overclocking to 1.4 or 1.5GHz decreases battery life a lot, I overclocked pretty much the day I got the phone and never looked back.

But having overclocked, they battery is still holding up just fine. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] fsrkewd:
since the battery from EVO has the same size as the one from desire Z

is it safe to assume that the mugen battery for EVO works with Desire Z as well?

the mugen battery for Desire Z is out of stock in the offical site and ebay, and i don't want to wait that long for the battery
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] funkadesi:
Apparently they are so in demand the price is up nearly 3x

http://cgi.ebay.com/MUGEN-1800mAh-E...766064?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item5d2cc069f0

140, lol
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] eatjello:
holy crap.. that's the one i bought for 40 bucks... 140!?!? that's completely ridiculous.

in other news, i went back to my mugen. i took off the mugen label so it's just a bare battery now. but the back cover fits 100% perfectly. the few extra mm really does make a difference. and the battery life is fantastic. i can go for 1 day 12 hours with average use (20% android system). the other thing that i noticed help the battery was turning off the overclock. I had it at 1.2ghz before. but went back to 800 , 245. screen off powersave 245 245. and the battery is really awesome now. It's been discharged 3 or 4 times i think so far.

That's with facebook always connected, 3 emails refreshing every hour, google voice, etc.

also, still have a brand new 1800 red chichi with charger never used if anyone needs/wants.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Smartenup:
Now that's a serious gouge!!! OMGG!!!
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] PacoL250:
True, but 100mAh doesn't always produce results.

I will say that my experience with Seidio hasn't been great when I had my N1, even after all the calibration.

Though it looks like I'll have to wait for that Mugen.

Though I am wondering, from the sounds of it, does the EVO's stock battery fit the G2/DZ? I could be able to snag it from my local Sprint store on the cheap as I know enough people there who could hook me up. :D
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] durps:
It does fit, but it might need some modifications.

But the official EVO battery is only 1300mah or 1500mah. You should go check it out as I am not positive. If you can get the battery for dirt cheap and it ends up being 1500mah, go for it!
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] ~~Tito~~:
I could sell you mine :). 25 + shipping to you.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] eep02b:
yes, but if they are having a 10-15% off sale w/free shipping vs full price for the Mugen it may make a difference... trying to make my pennies stretch ya know??
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] fsrkewd:
do you know when will they have anything sale like that? have been looking for battery for a while, and most of the site either went out of stock or gonna take a long time to ship
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] R_phAn:
Thanks for the coupon tip. I ordered one. At 40 dollars it's not too expensive I guess. I've tried a few tweaks en tips for increasing battery life on the stock battery the last couple of days, but it's not happening yet.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] eatjello:
loving this mugen after the break in period.

not worth 140$ that ebay is wanting now, but when the price goes back down, i'd recommend it to anyone.

It fits better than the red chichi. and it fits even perfectly when you take the label off the mugen.

Desire Z

right now i'm at

7 hr 18 min

34% stand by

29% idle

26% android system (use)

8% display

3% voice calls.

with 89% left.

Using Villision no sense rom.

SetCPU set at 806 max, 245 min, on demand.

245 min, 245 max, powersave when screen off.

But now i'm contemplating buying a HTC Desire HD, but they don't have 1800mah batteries for it, just 1300 -_- the stock is 1230.. ew.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] fsrkewd:
bought the mugen one for 40 with the coupon mentioned above!

not a bad price, just need to wait a while to get it...
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Broman400:
10-15 days for shipping, lol.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] jojo_16:
It took 3 weeks to send to hawaii, dnt get mad if they didn't ship their batts on the day it says it suppose to, I swear at them BOOM the nxt thing I know REFUND this was DEC 1 and I'm waiting for shipment till DEC 8 and re order shipped in DEC 20 arrived jan 11
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Broman400:
Doesn't sound like a good experience...
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Nighte:
You guys have to understand it's shipping from Hong Kong, and once they ship it, it's out of their control.

You can choose for it to ship faster, but are you willing to pay?

There's always a trade-off; it would be different if they were shipping from the states, which isn't the case here.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] jojo_16:
Yeah I know but the batteries worth the wait just so you know..
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] blast0id:
anyone have any clue if these would fit? says for evo 4g as well, not sure if they would be any better than the chichitechs? if anyone thinks they would fit, even with some slight mod, let me know and I'll be happy to be a Guinea Pig and purchase a couple... I can spare 14$ right now... lol...

or would this be better???
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
Has anyone tried the Seido battery? Does it have a bulge?

Eatjello should volunteer to try it out LOL.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] eatjello:
lol it's the only battery i haven't tested

I've tried the mugen, chichis, dealextreme 1500 mah, and some 1300 mah one that came with my dock.

and out of all of them, i would only recommend the Mugen 1800 and taking off the label. With the label on, it leaves a little bulge. You can see for yourself that it is bigger than the OEM by putting them on top of each other.

When you take the label off, it's perfect. The battery life of this mugen is awesome too. and i am 100% sure it is better than the chichi battery life.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] fsrkewd:
Is it easy to take off the label? I ordered few days ago and haven't arrive yet.

Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] eatjello:
yeah, it's just a sticker
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] chobie:
Charging my Mugen for the first time. Is it normal that the LED light turns off if is fully charged?

UPDATE: The green light turned on again o_o Still says charged though. Trying to charge for 12hrs as the instruction says.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] nandesho:
I am using the Seidio 1750mAh battery that BestBuy sells for htc phones. It has been absolutely awesome! The battery door fits exactly the same as stock, completely flush with the back side of the phone. My stock battery would only last 8-10 hours and the Seidio will last roughly 12-14 with similar usage. The difference does not seem night and day when I just say those numbers, but to me its night and day when you consider I don't have to charge it during the day. I highly recommend this battery! However if you clear your battery stats with this battery, it never seems to learn correctly. I had to reset it and do it again with the stock battery, then pop in the extended one.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] jojo_16:
My stock last for 5-7 hours light to moderate use now my mugen 1800 mAh last for 11-16 hours light to moderate use, can I ask how much did u bought ur battery??
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] nandesho:
I don't remember what the actual price is but I got it for just about 22 since my friend used his employee discount to but it haha.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Chinam4n:
If using the 1800mAh Evo 4G for the G2, could it damage the phone is some way?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] blast0id:
I think the only downfall with the seidio's is they are LiPo, so they won't handle as many charge/discharge cycles, and they lose their capacity slightly faster... but honestly... as much as I love this phone... I don't think I'm going to have it nearly as long as I had my fuze/touchpro... lol... I would like a hdmi out, and higher resolution, but everything else about this phone is PERFECT as far as I'm concerned =)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] nandesho:
Li-po vs li-ion for easy understanding :)

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/is_lithium_ion_the_ideal_battery
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] PatrickHuey:
Just to set the record straight and get all these batteries understood.

1.) the red evo 1800 mahler battery, which can be used for the G2 as well as other devices does or does not leave a bulge in the phone

2.) What about the sedio 1750mah battery? Does it leave a bulge?

3.) And last but not least, does the mugen 1800 mah battery leave a bulge?

sent from my V I S I O N.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] eatjello:
1) unless your battery was different than mine when it was made, this is not true. the red chichi battery DOES leave a bulge even with the label off. I sanded the crap out of it, and it still left a bulge, putting strain on the door.

2) Haven't used it.

3) the mugen 1800 has much less of a bulge than the red chi chi 1800, it's almost perfect out of the box. but if you take the label off, it fits 100% perfectly and no bulge.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] PatrickHuey:
Perfect, thank you sir!

sent from my V I S I O N.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] the-other-gordo:
My Mugen 1800 fit perfectly out of the box....no bulge.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Nighte:
To my experience, the Mugen 1800mAh fits perfectly.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] PatrickHuey:
awesome. can anyone else confrim the red battery not fitting correctly? the mugen is a little pricey..

and just a question, what can wear down a battery to make it not last as long?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Queue515:
All of your battery-related questions (and many other battery-related questions you did not ask) are answered here:

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/

I can't help you with your question on the red batteries. I've read through some threads here and there, and it seems like there's some variation in the product. Some report a good fit after removing the label, others report they still do not fit after removing the label and filing down the shell of the battery.

After reading about what happens sometimes when batteries fail ("Vent and Flame") I decided to buy the Mugen. They are currently back-ordered, but I can wait. I did find a coupon worth 5% off that saved me a few dollars. A quick trip to your favorite search engine should net you the same.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] PatrickHuey:
thanks for your response, its appreciated.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] themetatron:
i have a problem with anyone stating that they are using the phone heavy when i can see from your screenshot that you're barely using the phone. those blue dashes against black are too far and between to be heavy use.

that's HEAVY use with the mugen 1800 after about 3 weeks of use
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] poetryrocksalot:
If only there was no bulge....
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Wadech:
I have the 1800 mah mugen, and it's bulge free with label intact. I haven't done in depth testing, but it lasts me pretty much all day with moderate use.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] chobie:
Still at 29% with moderate use. This is after my first 12 hr charging.

Impressed so far.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] vittogn:
Why in all the batt analysis I'm seeing here the display count for 5 to 10% and I'm always at 70?

I'm on a non rooted stock froyo with display setting set as auto.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] eatjello:
^

with the sense UI, it seems to tell you that the display is the main cause of battery drain, it's just the way sense is.

I have a desire Z, which came with sense, and i had the same thing. using vilisision no sense rom now and i have about 5% display.