yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Questions and Answers] N'Rique:
A Good New Year for everyone.

I'm very frustrated with a HTC TRIN100 my daughter offered me recently. I've posted a question about how should i proceed as to flash the rom WM5 into WM6 (maybe to Mary 37) via Memory Card, once i do not know how to Sync the damned thing with M$ Active Sync, unfortunately untill now nobody cared to feed me back on this issue.

Meanwhile i've been trying to install some applications (lately: Xplore for WM...) and the .cab just wheels and wheels around and no joy -- nothing.

I'm so enraged with this piece of gadget that if it was my own acquisition, i swear i would through it into the garbage tin, but once it was a gift from my girlie, i feel i must restrain my aggressive ticks.

Anyway: would some 'simpatico' kind expert explain what can i do to mend this stupid situation: as long as i leave it the sails logo continue to wheel around and produce nothing in the stupid object and i will remain thankfuly obliged.

Would thank any objective help, of course.:(

HN
[General Questions and Answers] deliberate187:
You flash the ROM with an RUU file. The RUU is an application you run on your PC with the phone connected.

Typically flashing from a memory card involves entering the bootloader and a few other unnecessary steps (if it can even be done with WM devices)

The only time I ever flash using a memory card is typically if I'm working on an Android device. Other than that it's RUU for me. Much simpler process.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] nishan432:
I have a xperia mini(E10i) running on android v2.1(Build 2.0.A.0.504). I rooted my phone with z4root. Problem is

*when i copy or move framework-res.apk to system i can't see it(shows copying progerss) Same with xrecovery.tar when copy to bin folder.

*when type mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock2 in cmd says operation not permitted.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] kitolejman:
did u check allow on superuser?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marshy73:
Using the latest Rom Manager in Market (ver 3 if I remember)

Clicked Clockworkmod installation, Rom Manager identified DHD correctly and installed Clockworkmod accordingly.

Proceeded to do a ROM Backup but upon reboot, DHD shows the red triangle so everything is halted.

Did much searching in XDA and outside but could not find solution.

Anyone can advise?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tmh:
If you can still boot up normally, try simply installing the custom recovery again.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marshy73:
Ok i managed to resolve this myself
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vuedesprit:
can you plz tell us ur experience and experiments and how u solve it
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marshy73:
Oh.. basically I did a S-Off and all become ok.

I think without S-Off, somehow HTC replaces Clockworkmod automatically everytime there's a reboot.

Once S-Off was installed in, all is ok.
[Nexus One General] jettrue:
At about 11:00 pm, I had my Nexus one in my back pocket, as my new skinny jeans have no front pocket (yes I'm a girl). We were at a New Year's party, I went to the restroom, dropped my pants and heard a large PLOP. Horrified I turned around in slow motion knowing what I would see. Nice bubbles rising from my beautiful nexus one.

Now it's in a bag of rice, and hoping for the best. Thankfully I do have a squaretrade warranty on it!!

Sniff.
[Nexus One General] androidaddict23:
Ah
[Nexus One General] baseballfanz:
Ohhh, that sucks. Sorry to hear
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
I hope you removed the battery immediately. Put it in a SEALED CONTAINER full of rice in a warm place or under some sunlight and leave it there AT LEAST 2-3 cycles of it accumulating moisture on the lid of the container. Each day or so, change out the rice, wipe down any moisture, fill it with fresh rice and start it over. Once no moisture is on the lid, do it one more time for a day or so. Do not put the battery in or try to power it on until that point.

And keep in mind your battery might be toast regardless. You might get lucky on the phone, however.

BTW, might not want to re-use the rice after, considering where the moisture is coming from ;)
[Nexus One General] jettrue:
Thanks for the info.

I think I grabbed it really quickly from the toilet, but it felt like slow motion as it seemed like I stalled for 10 seconds, watching in horror the bubbles rising. I can still see it now! ;) haha

I did immediately remove the battery. It's now in a ziplock of rice. It's been in there since 3 am this morning. There's moisture in the corners of the screen. Will wait it out. I am currently using a cheap freebie lg flip phone and it hurts, lol.

My fear is the fact that it was blue water... they had one of those deodorant things in the tank. That can't be good.
[Nexus One General] britoso:
batteries are very cheap on ebay, $6.50 shipped
[Nexus One General] Tasqa:
Dang, a girl with a N1 and skinny jeans here on XDA... just saying ;-)

Real bummer of the nexus.. I hope it survives. Would be a real shame if you left the N1 forums :-(

GL with drying the thing.
[Nexus One General] Know-Fear:
Nobody??? C'mon, that was funny regardless of the circumstances.
[Nexus One General] Chosen_on184:
Rice .... really ...that works ?
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
Bummer, hope it gets better soon....Rice has N1 healing powers.
[Nexus One General] jettrue:
Yes, it's absorbent. We used to put rice in our salt shaker down in humid Louisiana to keep it from clumping.

And yes, the comment about not re-using the rice was very funny. ;) If this thing works, then I have to think about the toilet water tainted phone against my ear. :p

Tasqa, I've got a nice rack too. Just saying. But I've got a skinny white girl ass. :D
[Nexus One General] Tasqa:
Haha just kiddin :P

My mom dropped her phone in her coffee the other day.

Dried for two weeks with no rice. Now it has those coffe lines in the resistant touchscreen 0.o

Anyways I'm off to bed. Makin all those stupid jokes aint good for me (A)
[Nexus One General] juggaknot77:
Damn I would absolutely cry if that would've happened to me, for real though a girl with a N1 is sexy as hell.

Hope your N1 survives, keep us updated.

Happy New Year from a fellow N1 user from Brooklyn NY.
[Nexus One General] Das_mobile:
Sorry about your phone. I have had luck with my old Nokia and a hair dryer. That was eons ago
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Yeah, just don't be in a hurry to use it, even if your current phone sucks compared... If you use it too fast you will kill it, right now there might be a chance.. Who knows about the blue sanitizer, but as long as it's not corrosive or conductive and leave nasty bits behind it might not be a problem.

I'd suggest a sealed tight tupperware dish with fresh rice and put it it somewhere warm or with sunlight, and again, keep changing it until it's at least past one cycle WITHOUT any condensation on the tupperware. It could be a week, but personally I'd rather be without the N1 for a week than forever.
[Nexus One General] mrbkkt1:
unless you have a giant bag of desiccant in your house somewhere.
[Nexus One General] Buck Shot:
i submerged my N1 in teh sink while washing dishes. I had shoulder surgery and was on the phone doing dishes ( was my first mistake). I had my N1 in the sling with headphones on and when i leaned forward, it slid right under the running water. I grabbed it and dried it off best i could, took the battery,sim,sd,batter cover off. I then put it in a tupperware container buried in rice for 24 hours sealed and it works like it never happened
[Nexus One General] turqoise:
I dropped my N1 into the drain once. Fully submerged in water and I only manage to get it out a minute later.

Lucky it was in the pouch which made the water go in slower.

Put it in a dry cabinet (the ones for camera gear) for a day and happy to report I'm still using it now.
[Nexus One General] jettrue:
So, I couldn't resist trying, everything looked very dry. Patience has never been a virtue of mine. Soon as I woke up I stuck the battery in and fired this puppy up. I was worried, it stayed on the boot logo for what seemed like longer than usual, but she's up and running! Speaker seems to work fine, I haven't made a call yet but will in just a bit.

After dropping it in la toilette, I took off the screen protecter as well. This morning I notice when the screen is off, the reflection looks a little funny, kind of a different hue, slightly hazy reflection given off, but I'm not sure if that's just how it looks without a screen protector, or if it's a result of the blue water.

Phone is charging now, and that seems to be working fine too.
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
Sounds like a bit of luck there.
[Nexus One General] OzCDN:
The rice trick is a bit of an urban legend. Not that it doesn't absorb moisture (it does) but there are better ways. Rice is not the fastest and bits of rice and rice dust can get into the phone.

The best method is to open it up as well as you can and the put it in a steady flow of warm, dry air. A heater vent in a house works well (especially if the humidifier is turned off). Hair dryers will work as well but they need to be manually operated and can sometimes be too hot.

P.S. Good luck to the OP ... hope the Blue N1 becomes your new fashion statement instead of a paperweight.
[Nexus One General] ajorg:
You can buy a large bag of dessicant silica gel sand at a craft store. People use it to dry flowers. Might be a pain to clean the sand off the phone later though.
[Nexus One General] subvecto:
A hair dryer running on slow to mid speed and low heat should do the trick in few hours... rotation in every 30min or so would greatly ensure drying every corner. Don't forget to remove the battery and be sure heat is not set high or blow distance is sufficient not to end up with a liquid N1 :-)
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Urban legend is an overstatement... Clearly there are better methods, but anyone can go to their supermarket and pick up rice. I've never seen bulk desiccant, but then again I've never looked for it either. For small packs of it for various things I just raid the purses at Wal Mart. ;)

Taking the Nexus One apart is a very daunting task, and plastic + hair dryers + impatience = overheating and warping. Rice or other desiccants would work with some time.

Hopefully the OP didn't ruin her phone with her impatience.... :rolleyes: Sister in law was in the same boat, her 4 year old throws EVERYTHING in the toilet, including several phones. Last time immediately after it happened we told her what to do, instead she wraps it in paper towels until the outside was dry then let it sit overnight then plugged it into the charger... yeah, it's dead.
[Nexus One General] jettrue:
Does my impatience bother you? LOL Still running good so far. I think if there were any moisture left in it, it would have fried itself already. ;) It wasn't just overnight, it was about 30 hours off and with the rice.

As for the absorbency of rice... let's do an experiment. Drop two N1's into the toilet, put one in a bag of rice, the other on a counter top, and GO. :D

Charged to 100% with no issues, and phone calls are working, speaker, bluetooth, wifi, etc. Haven't tried 3G data yet.
[Nexus One General] DumbUglyDragon:
:D :D :D :D
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Bothers me? If so, it's a similar "bothers me" like the "Blend It" guy destroying hardware. Otherwise, hey, it's your phone. Glad it's working okay. :)
[Nexus One General] jaszek:
Now you should check if the camera works by taking a picture of yourself and posting it here.

I kid, i kid
[Nexus One General] nexus14:
Working in the pharmacy, I always find desiccant vials in our stock bottles. I probably throw away 30-40 every day I work. Perhaps I should start saving them in case something bad happens to my phone. *knocks on wood*
[Nexus One General] britoso:
I once dropped my w810i in a large mug of beer, saw it working underbeer for a few seconds before I could react. Immediately pulled the battery and dried it under a table lamp, worked fine the next evening :)
[Nexus One General] whorehay:
Sometimes I just miss those days where cell phones were durable sons of bishes. My K750i took a beating every day and also played Prince of Persia. You just can't beat it.
[Nexus One General] superman63:
Skinny white girl add ROFL
[Nexus One General] Know-Fear:
Had to down the beer first to get it out. :D
[Nexus One General] v0kal:
ULine Sells big cans of desiccant.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] clauswl:
First of, HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone!!!

I was wondering if we could have a new thread dedicated to NAND ROMS. It would make searching easier and less confusing keeping the SD and NAND builds in different threads, or maybe even a new Sub-Forum.

Claus
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] stratplayer:
Sounds good to me.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] thorner:
agree

Sounds like a great Idea
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aagrollmus:
Yes that'll be great !!!!!!!

- Android Development :

1.- Nand Builds

2.- SD Builds
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] stab244:
I agree. Sure we could just type NAND into the search box, but this way would be much easier.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ChrisM001:
I think it is not necessary, because sooner or later all builds will be NAND builds.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Deathevn:
I don't think, that there will be no sd builds in the future.

Both methods have their advantages and a lot of people want to have their winmo as a backup system.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dharvey4651:
I have already discussed this with the site Administrator. It was decided to implement the new thread tagging system instead of creating new separate forums. So far it's working well and therefore we really don't see a need to create the new forums.

We'll see how things play out in the next few weeks. I plan to revisit this subject and make a more permanent decision when that time comes.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jkolner:
I second that. The tagging system is much easyer as long the developers rember it ;-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] darkony:
+1

love dual even triple or more boot phone
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] graffitilost:
so what i have seen

so before nand i was usuing sd superrams and they were insanely faster i thought battire life was some what better being most of them are non sense.. super ram as long as i wasnt connected to wifi or 3g and nothing updateing by its self i could prolly get a good 4 hours with just playing games and downloading stuff and such. but it would kill my batt. now with nand im setting it up for the last hour or so downloading and such and its still holding really strong im using mdjs gingerbread build. i was usuing the same as super ram.. so seeing both buildes i think nand is a better choice it just feels like its stronger haveing android on it.. i thinks thats the best i could describe it
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] clauswl:
The fla I saw with the tagging system that some NAND builds might get lost among the pages due to older dates. I already have overlooked some builds that way, especially builds that load in both SD and NAND (i.e. JDMS' build).

Thanks for looking into it,again, Happy new year to the Mods and Builders, and everyone else. Awesome job and great recourced on the XDA website!

Claus
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] clauswl:
Thank You!

Thank you moderators for creating a NAND forum! Everything is much more organized and easier to find now.

Claus
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Kashka11:
I'm with you on the NAND build forum...it would make sense...this will also ease the confusion when discussingbuild specific bugs...keep it all in one place.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
Hello,

I open a thread to describe my problem since nobody could help me until now. I guess this must be an advanced problem, because I don't think I'm noob enough to have screwed something up.

So fisrt of all, the background :

Had a problem with wifi after a fall: low range, crappy bandwith, disconnected all the time

Sent my phone to RMA service TWICE : not fixed in the first time, some hardware piece changed the second time

Got back my phone : firmware updated to 3.14, radio 2.15, wifi working perfectly under WinMo

From there, it gets complicated. At first, I decide to try my old cedsmith sense build, the first with new initrd.gz : wifi works fine

Then I try Darkstone froyo RAM build : wifi connects, gets an IP (I see my device from my router's control pannel), BUT NO DATA, market, browser, web apps won't load...

Then I go to cedsmith's desire HD build (not RAM) : wifi works fine...

Then I decide to try MIUI Star RAM build : wifi works for 2 day, with data freezes and timeouts, then it do not work anymore...same problem as Darkstone's RAM build.

Then NAND arrives :

I try DFT Desire build : wifi ok :)

I try Gauner1986 Desire HD build : wifi ok :)

I try CM6.1 build : wifi not ok :(

I try tytung's Nexus build : wifi not ok :(

Now I'm back to DFT's desire build, and wifi works perfectly.

So after processing data in my mind, the main common factor in working build is Sense, and no Sense for non working builds...

May I assume that HTC RMA service may have replaced some wifi chipset or antenna for a different one, working with only with HTC builds because they have specific drivers?

I have tried to ping from non working builds with Terminal Emulator :

Router is fine (192.168.0.1 : every packet is transmitted)

www.google.com is not fine (around 1 packet off 5 is transmitted...)

I have an european HD2 with 512Mo of internal storage, so I would like to be able to use non sense build, essentially for space matter...To conclude, I have to questions, mostly for programmers since this is an advanced issue : what do you think my problem is, and what can I do to to fix it...if it can be fixed? :(

Thank you for your help. ;)

UPDATE : My issue has been solved by adding another router to my local network, dedicated to my phone. It is a Hercules HWNRi-300, with 802.11n feature , so maybe it's the différence with my previous router which only supported 802.11g or maybe it was due to an IP conflict, traffic issue, I don't know...But now that my HD2 has its own dedicated AP, with its own IP sub network, it works perfectly fine, even with non-sense builds.

But anyway, if someone can find a solution for other dudes with the same problem, it would be cool, that is why I'll let this thread hanging around and matbe update it from time to time, since, even if a workaround has been found, the real issue hasn't been really fixed yet.

Thanks everybody for helping and goodluck to others. ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pkchips:
It's unlikely any of the ROM programmers will come here.

Do you have a firewall installed?

I was having similar problems before with data/wifi working on some builds and not others but then I figured out it was DroidWall - it was behaving differently on different builds. On some builds, I had to "allow all" in the "white list" in order for data to work.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
No, I don't have any firewall installed. And I have DMZed the IP obtained by my HD2...

Actually, on these builds, wifi NEVER WORKED, blank data.img no app installed, nothing at all...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
Suggested by RedWave31 :

My answer :

I have also tried to modify build.prop's DNS with google public DNS,no success...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Visentinel:
The wifi did not work for me on the CM 1.02 NAND build either, it just said error even tho 1.02 was supposed to fix the wifi lol

i dont think its your phone, iv had on and off wifi issues with every rom sense or not since i began using android builds on my HD2.

and dont even get me started on bluetooth !! I ended up switching to a HTC Desire until just recently NAND came out. Still then i had no wifi on the CM 1.02 NAND build :rolleyes:

Nexus wifi worked and MDJ gingerbread wifi and bluetooth worked for me
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
I NEVER had ANY problem with wifi, using more than 10 different builds, Sense and non Sense, for months until sending my phone to RMA for...wifi issue (on Android and Winmo).

So I'm kind of sure it is related...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
Tried JAWS' MIUI nand build, and JMDS ultimate build, same issue...

Help please ! :mad:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zachmerrill504:
I think your issue is the age old RMNET vs PPP builds. Using 3.14 rom and radio 2.15, you should be using a PPP build, which is why I think only those that use PPP, which I believe is only the Desire Builds, is what is causing your issues. But I'm only taking a stab in the dark with one, because I Jaws MIUI is working just fine for me, and i had both 3.14 rom and 2.15 radio, and everything works just fine. If the other builds are working, then why not just use those till something else comes out?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
My problem is about WIFI man c'mon, did you even read my first post?

And it's not a winmo version problem or a radio problem : I had switched to chuckydroid and radio 2.10.50.28_2 before flashing MAGLDR....And problem was the same.

Thanks for trying to help really. But I think it is a very specific issue : if twas not, I surely wouldn't have opened a thread about it...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zachmerrill504:
well its certainly not sense vs non-sense problem. it could be a number of issues, one of them possibly being a kernal issue with specific builds. NAND is still very buggy right now, with lots of problems popping up that people didn't expect, so if you find one that works and really want NAND then use the one that works, pretty simple. I can tell you its not a hardware problem because if it was, it wouldn't work on anything, sense or non-sense, sd, ram, or nand build.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mattfmartin:
@ OP I have the the same problem. Check out the thread I started. Tell me if this is the same problem your having. Been dealing with this forever. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=879482 I want to fix this problem once and for all.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lesjaw:
try this :

when u connected to wifi

check gateway ip and dns

i believe for ip u already have a correct one because you can ping your router, but if gateway and dns has wrong value then data from wifi will not work..

to do that, run terminal or adb shell from ur pc, type :

#busybox ifconfig

find wlan0 and look at ip and gateway

#getprop net.dns1

#getprop net.dns2

this dns value must match with your router dns value (or whatever the internet provider backbone in ur router)

the easy way to look at ur dns router is by looking at status network conection in control panel..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] asphaltkiller:
I had the same problem than you and fixed it.

Go in advanced wifi settings and click on 14channel wifi regulator
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beretta93:
It has nothing to do with NAND, it occured before MAGLDR's release. You can tell me it's not a hardware problem without even reading my first post? How do you know it's not a driver problem, which is hardware related?

Please, this kind of advice won't help, thank you for bothering but do not anymore.

Regards.