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[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
I wouldn't expect anything from Moto to be easily hackable as their current lineup suggests. The viewing angles in portrait are nothing to right home about but they are not that bad in landscape. I got my latest one at Office Depot and they had one display. I'm sure there will be better things coming but due to the great devs here this should be a great device until something very much better comes along. Roebeet posted some pics of the viewing angles but I couldn't find them easily
[G Tablet General] jam40jeff:
The viewing angles are bad, but other than that the screen is fine. From straight on (especially in landscape) it's a pretty nice image. If you aren't worried about the viewing angles, then there's nothing to worry about the screen
[G Tablet General] stanglx:
What about using it flat on the table? Lets say normal viewing/using when its laying flat on the table.. I am not concerned with others being able to see it.. just when I am using it on a table flat I want to to be viewable with at least 80% of the quality..

Also.. what about portrait.. does it give that "3D" effect with one eye having a different contrast than the other?

If any of you have a netbook.. take the netbook and stand it portrait and look directly at the screen.. You will know what I mean..
[G Tablet General] rayden25:
Find a store that has one on display. Staples used to and I think office depot still does.
[G Tablet General] whosloosin92:
Office depot has them on display. The last time i was there to buy a case i updated their display model to the newest viewsonic rom. :D
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
If you can't find one in the store, you can use any standard netbook screen as a good example - turn it back and forth and you'll see the solarization effect.

The screen is the #1 hardware issue I have with the device, which is ironic given that this was released by Viewsonic. As time has progressed, it's become an actual annoyance to me, so much so that it could (in all seriousness) be the main reason why I eventually sell mine. Portrait mode actually hurts my eyes after a short time, and trying to watch movies while the screen is layed back 45 degrees is completely useless.

I keep hoping that we can get a better LCD solution, as i would do that if it were possible.
[G Tablet General] Auzo:
If it's lying flat on a table 6" to a foot in front of you and you are sitting "properly" (back against backrest) the image is borderline unusable. you have to hunch over it to get the straight on view.

In portrait, you are correct, it very much has the "3D" effect. I can't really use it that way without getting annoyed/headache.

Needless to say the screen is a deal breaker for me. I'm going to play with this tablet for a week or so and return it and wait for the good stuff to come that gets announced at CES. With that said i fully expect to have to pay at a minimum one hundred more than for this tablet. This tablet is really a steal at 400 if you can live with the screen.
[G Tablet General] stanglx:
Appreciate the honesty... It sounds like it would be a deal breaker for me... Last night I was playing around with all the android phones at the new years party and then the ipads that were laying around and have to say.. that screen is just amazing... but love the openness of the Android platform..

The net net is... the Apple OS is nothing to dismiss and the screen is the cherry on top...

If these vendors dont put in what is needed into the screen, coupled with I would say a very immature platform it will take at least 2 generations before it catches mass acceptance...

Lets see what this week has in store at CES..
[G Tablet General] MdX MaxX:
Thanks for all the replies. I was going to wait for CES anyway, but now I'm thinking I'll wait for MSI's WindPad 110 regardless. The internal hardware is probably very similar and the device will probably be more polished and more supported. Hopefully in the future we'll see VEGAn-TAB or zPad on it :)
[G Tablet General] scottfish:
I am one of those owners who wanted to love the G Tablet. I had stars in my eyes when I snapped it up at my local Office Depot.

The screen absolutely killed it for me though.

I am a long time tablet user (mostly on Nokia Tablets). I love the form factor. Just waiting for someone to do it right. From what I can gather thus far, G Tablet is that device who can live with the screen, Nook Color is the device for those who don't mind a lack of buttons, and Galaxy Tab is for those who don't mind paying through the nose to not give in to Apple.
[G Tablet General] AltairDusk:
I still love mine, regardless of the screen. I knew about the viewing angles going in and checked it out at OfficeDepot before buying (they had a live one on display). In landscape you can easily get a good viewing angle while holding it, it's not so bad that you have to constantly hunt for the right angle. In portrait it's not so great, my use case for the tablet is 90% hand held and in landscape so I'm alright with this. On a table you would definitely want to prop it up at an angle, if you can do that it would be fine but laying flat is a no go unless you want to slouch way over the tablet.
[G Tablet General] jacindc:
I have a Nexus One, so I know what a good screen looks like. Honestly, the gtab doesn't bother me. I hold it pretty much straight on, or flip it upside down sometimes when browsing, and it's just not a big deal to me. Sometimes when it's on my lap I'll put a remote control under the top of the screen to prop it just a touch.

I'd also add that just because new tabs get announced at CES doesn't mean they'll be available next week. I bet most won't come out until March, with Honeycomb. I'm quite happy to have the gtab to play with until then.
[G Tablet General] XANAVirus:
I hope you guys won't mind me barging in here to ask a quick question. It is about the screen (okay, sort of).

Lets say I wanted to use my GTablet on a table, is there any good stands to put it on so that I can use it and not have to hunch over as I usually do (it hurts my back sometimes not to mention just plain awkward)?

I just thought there might be a particular kind or model that is the best that the GTablet would stay on securely. If not, I'll just locate some general-type stand and use that.
[G Tablet General] teknikk7:
The screen is why I returned my unit. I don't expect too much from MSI, their netbooks also had horrible screens. Also, do not expect anything in 10.1 to be iPad similar. All the 10.1" screens are TN ****.
[G Tablet General] butchconner:
Folks,

I have a question -- what is all the big deal about tables?

If I want to work on a table, I use my netbook or my laptop or even go to the computer room and use my desktop.

I use my tablet sitting in a chair holding it or letting it rest in my lap. Or sometimes I set it on a picture holder on the desktop while I access my desktop. Or I lay on the bed with it sitting on my belly or chest (HO! HO! HO!) Or in the car my wife holds it while she plays games. IMHO, tablets are designed to be used portably and that means getting it in front of you in your hands or on an appropriate holder.

Yes, my view angles are not shiny either. But I don't use it in ways that make that a factor. I have adapted to maximize it. As someone said, looking at the screen what I call normally it puts out a great picture.

Rev

P. S. -- Not trying to start a flame war. I just think some people are expecting too much of a reasonable-priced just-introduced product. Nothing -- not even (especially) the fruity products -- is perfect. IMHO.
[G Tablet General] XANAVirus:
If this is cause I came in here asking about that (instead of making a new topic or just keeping that to myself), then I'm sorry. :(

It almost seems like that post was directed at me (not saying that in a mean way, more of 'aww *sad face* way).

I was the one who came in here in this topic asking about that specifically. Never mind about that, then.
[G Tablet General] dragonfly1113:
This has been discussed in the accessories portion of the forums, but what i use that works great is a nice little china plate stand thingy that my wife had bought for some china she wanted to put in the china closet, looks like a wire hanger type thing cost her 2 bucks and works amazing for the tablet on the table so i dont need to "hunch over". im sure you can get it at any store like staples or something like that, dont know exactly where she got it from.

hope this helps.
[G Tablet General] Fuzzy John:
Some people say that the sceen is defective becase of the poor viewing angle. That is wrong. The screen is not defective. It is just a lower priced screen which in the end translates in a lower price for the tablet. A better screen would increase the price.
[G Tablet General] dragonfly1113:
or them just putting the screen on the right way and not upside down like it seems they did since turning it upside down works perfectly.
[HTC Aria General] jdmnash:
Is there a screen calibrate for the aria? The phone is basically unusable. The screen responds to touch but only rarely and in an area far from where your finger actually is.
[HTC Aria General] kaschenberg:
No there is not. Is this phone brand new? If so, just return it.
[HTC Aria General] barisahmet:
No issues here. Actually more usable screen than my brothers "giant" X10, despite its smaller size.
[Nook Color General] dc5guy:
Turned on the screen of my rooted 1.0.1 NC this morning finding a notification saying that the software has been "updated" to 1.0. Now it just keeps bootlooping.

Only setting that was

different from the other nights was that the the WiFi sleep policy was changed to NEVER in Spare Parts.

Any idea as to why this happened? Looks like I will have to reset, update and root again.
[Nook Color General] Homer_S_xda:
Did you block OTA updates?

Homer
[Nook Color General] dc5guy:
I believe the auto nooter does that for you?
[Nook Color General] Homer_S_xda:
I don't think so. Look in /etc/security for the file otacerts.zip to check. If it is still there, do a search for blocking ota updates. It is possible that was the culprit. Another possibility is that you had an authentication error. Have you done any restoring of system apps/data?

Homer

Sent from the XDA app on my NC (1.0.1 w/A-n 2.12.25)
[Nook Color General] dc5guy:
If not blocking the OTA setting was indeed the culprit (even though I was already on 1.0.1), I think A LOT more people would have this issue.

I went through and did the whole rooting process all over again. Hopefully clockwork recovery will be available soon. Just don't want people to have the same problem as I did.
[Nook Color General] slayda:
I had the same issue & it went into a partial cycling reboot mode where it would begin spelling out "nook color" then show the big 'n' n then the colors would ripple & when that stopped it would start the cycle over. Eventually it did the update back to 1.0.0 & I was able to reset & unroot.

A replacement NC is on its way to my house.

BTW the update back to 1.0.0 happened both before & after rooting with auto-nooter.
[Nook Color General] mrmark93:
What is wrong with your NC?
[EVO 4G General] jairoremix:
heres the story, i finally had rooted my phone last night with unrevoked3.3. i was running froyo on a 3 day old evo.i was following a thread explaining how to do this on this forum...very detailed, btw.i installed wireless tethering, went from clockwork to aman ra recovery ect. i had made a backup when i still has clockword. after i changed to aman ra and everything was good, i did another back up with aman ra and when the phone went to reboot it froze. i had a pc36img on the sd card bc i was reading tons of threads trying to figure out wtf happend, bc i couldnt boot back into the system, but i could boot into aman ra recovery. after tinkering all night now i can even boot into aman ra bc i had placed a pc36img file on the sd card and it updated something. all i get now is the red exclamation point when trying to go into recovery. ive also tried the ruu to revert back to stock, but i get error 170 cant locate usb...any ideas??? any feedback would be appreciated

i still have the clockwork recovery i had made btw, dont know if that helps
[EVO 4G General] mroneeyedboh:
you just have to reinstall the recovery. there is a guide for rooting and its under there. the method I used is in my sig, but just follow the loading recovery part. And read his FAQs there is something stating that if you got the red exclamation then it shows you how to fix it.
[EVO 4G General] jairoremix:
ughhh, ive been doing some more reading and i cant find how to flash aman ra1.8.0 back on my phone w/o. i went into the menu and when the disk imagige comes out w the exclamation point i press vol up and power and it takes me to another screena dn asks for a update.zip. im guessing this would be the aman ra 1.8.0 but i cant find it in a zip file. i do have the aman ra 1.8.0, am i supposed to make a zip file with it?
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
You can flash it via rom manager in the app market.
[EVO 4G General] Jbcarrera:
follow the broken recovery in the first post here [ROOT][GUIDE] HBoot 2.02/2.10 SOFF - Don't Be a Hater Edition - Upd. 01.01.11 and you will be back on track
[EVO 4G General] jairoremix:
ok...so i flashed with the recovery thing. i can get into the recovery menu now!!!!! omg thanks guys!!

ok so i tried to load from a zip file 3.4.0.1 fresh rom. and it goes through almost the whole thing then it kicks back and doesnt finish. i also tried to use the ruu to go back to factory to start over, no luck ther either. it syas cant find usb.... ideas??....i have read tons of post and i know u guys are busy and youve probably answered these questions a million times, but i cant find the answers yet...
[EVO 4G General] jairoremix:
wow, i didnt think this was going to bite me in the a$$ like this lol. i might be a noob on android related things but thats definately not the case with other pc related things. i mean, i mod xboxes, wiis, mess with iphones, ect...u name it....yet here i am 24 hrs later its like rd 7 trying not to end up with a really expensive paperwight. my next step right now is to try and use the ruu to see if i could flash the fone to a factory rom....any of u guys wanna throw some logs onto this fire??
[EVO 4G General] jairoremix:
welllll, i got ruu to work and heres what i did. in this post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6855542&postcount=1 i read something about loading fastboot. i had already had removed the htc sync app from my pc. i enabled fastboot and on my pc the fone showed up as "my htc"...it never did that before...i tried running ruu and it worked!!! it flashed my fone to a stock froyo and im still with s-off. now i dont know whats different now, i guess ill find out soon...thanks to the quick responses from some of you! ill post back bc im going to try and install clockworkmod to see if i could load a backup that i did before converting it to amon ra.
[EVO 4G General] jairoremix:
as an end to my story, hopefully this can help other people....i rerooted using revoked3.3, i installed rom manager and clockworkmod again, and was able to restore the backup i had made with rom manager before changingi the restore to amon ra!!!!! all is back to normal, 4g is running, now, onto removing the bloatware.....sighhhhhh what a relief!
[G Tablet General] rushless:
I always do a Clockwork backup prior to any update, but since updating to 3.10, I have experienced the exact same issue three times in a row that has not happened prior to being on 3.1 or higher.

1. After Clockwork backs the rom up and I reboot via Clockwork, the launcher option reappears and then a few seconds later, error windows start popping up for a bunch of apps.

2. I interrupt the errors by pressing power and then a VERY quickly timed pressing of power off.

3. I boot back into CW and fix permissions, reboot and then all apps like Angry Birds, Ricochet, Steambirds, Stumble Upon, etc vanish and I have to reinstall them with Titanium. 36 apps, to be precise.

Why would the backup process suddenly result in the consistent need to go through this each time?
[Captivate General] praetorrian:
I tried flashing a new rom with cwm. My phone is stuck on the att world phone screen. I tried the usual pull the batt, sim, and sdcard then put back in the battery and ahold the volume buttons while I put the usb cable in. It wont go into download mode. Any suggestions or do I have a $200 paper weight?
[Captivate General] kegobeer:
There are a bunch of "I bricked my phone" threads, and they have some good suggestions in there. One of them is to build a jig. Do a little bit of digging and you'll find the directions.
[Captivate General] mcord11758:
Pull battery leave it out for like 10 minutes. Try getting into dl mode again.
[Captivate General] norcal einstein:
If you can see something on your phone's screen, it's not bricked... With some searching, you'll be able to get out of that, no problem.
[Captivate General] praetorrian:
Battery

When I try to go into download mode I'm just seeing the screen like it want to charge but nothing happens.
[Captivate General] connexion2005:
View the UNBRICK link in my sig for the JiG.
[Networking] Blåburk:
Hello

Sorry, if this thread is in a wrong forum or been dramer with allready.

I wondering about Bluetooth video transfering from a phone to an external handheld screen or TV-set. either with BT built-in or an external device (BT to S-VHS, composite, VGA or SCART).

Still better would be a handset like a Netbook(with about 5" screen and same size keyboard. connected to a phone by BT.

thougt no such screen/keyboard doesn't exist.

Sent from my SE m1i Aspen
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GoCkillaz:
Ok, so I've been talking to TONS of people about which phone I should upgrade to. My HD2 friends are vouching for the HD2, but the G2 people say that the HD2's battery life is **** (this was pre-Nand). Which of the 2 phones do you think I should look into upgrading to?

I'm hoping to have a phone that has a big developer base so the phone is always supported (unlike the Mytouch Slide, which was supported for 2 months until the G2 came out.)

Sent from a phone that's better than yo Momma's. bbq.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daaango:
well you're posting in the G2 forum so I bet most people are gonna say G2 (hopefully)

and cyanogen owns a G2 himself, so the phone should be heavily supported for a good while...

I personally went with the G2 and am lovin it :D
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arthurbrownleeiv:
I have both.

Why do I have both? Because the G2 really attracted me as it reminded me of my old TP2.

Would I buy it again? No.

The keyboard is stiff.

The screen is small.

The CPU is unimpressive.

I get less battery life with it, than my HD2 with Android.

The hinge is just stupid.

The flash is weak.

The camera seems lower quality in side by side comparisons.

Go with the HD2.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GoCkillaz:
Ok, see, this is helpful. The HD2 has 720p right? Isn't that better than the G2's camera already? Also, do you think that the HD2 will be as supported as it is now in 10 months?

Sent from a phone that's better than yo Momma's. bbq.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arthurbrownleeiv:
Actually, I haven't updated my Froyo build in awhile, so I don't know if the 720p is working yet or not for video recording. I do know the sound is a bit better on the video with the HD2, but I never compared the video quality between the two.

When I mentioned the camera, I meant still shots. I've been able to do some HDR shots even with the HD2.

Another thing, I am getting about 5-7mw of drain on an SD card build, and I hear the NAND builds are down to 2-3mw of drain. With my normal battery, a day of medium to heavy use isn't a problem. However, I also have the HTC extended battery and go about 2 days without a charge with no issue :)

I don't know if they will make an extended battery for the G2, but the way the battery door is made, it would be hard to do.

That's another thing, I don't like the MicroSD being in a weird little "cage" under the battery. So much for swapping in cards while the phone is on.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arthurbrownleeiv:
One thing I forgot...

The screen size on the HD2 will completely spoil you to the point that no smaller screen will ever "do" for you. Be it just reading on the screen, or typing on it with two thumbs in landscape. It's just perfect.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GoCkillaz:
Ok perfect, I'm glad I posted here. You've been immensely helpful. The screen is actually the best for any Android phone to date, yes? My HD2 friends are raving about it.

Sent from a phone that's better than yo Momma's. bbq.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arthurbrownleeiv:
The color is nothing like an AMOLED screen, but it is brighter and crisper than most other LCD's out there.

It's the same screen the EVO and the Desire HD have, and both of those get pretty high praise :)

It certainly is higher brightness and color than the one they put on it's retarded twin brother the HD7 :rolleyes:

Glad I could be of some help. The G2 certainly does get higher bandwidth speeds in the "4G" areas, but I've never felt the HD2 was "slow" on the network either.

Plus another annoyance? The trackpad on the G2 randomly "wakes up" and moves when I'm typing. I'd rather that space was used for screen.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GoCkillaz:
The only things that really attracted me to the G2 were the hardware keyboard and the 4G network. But I live like an hour away from Los Angeles, so I doubt that I'll be getting any 4G coverage anytime soon. I'm guessing by 2012.

Also, I've been hearing some wonky things about the trackpad on the G2, apparently there's a proximity sensor inside that responds to shadows and movement.

Sent from a phone that's better than yo Momma's. bbq.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arthurbrownleeiv:
The keyboard isn't worth it.

I came from the Motorola Q9h, to the Tilt, to the Touch Pro, to the Touch Pro 2... So I was a diehard keyboard man... Then I owned the HD2 since release day.

Now after owning the G2 for a few months? I honestly can say, that as long as I have my HD2, I won't be wanting a physical keyboard.

The 4G honestly is the only reason I could see getting the phone, so since that isn't an issue for you, head on over to the HD2 section and find whatever ROM suits your fancy the most ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GoCkillaz:
I went from a ****ty Nokia flip phone to a BB to another BB to the Mytouch3G to the MTSlide. I regretted ever going over to the MyTouch3G because the soft keyboard was laggy as hell (even when I used Swype). I guess that I'm just overly cautious about having yet another laggy phone.

Also, I've been lurking in the HD2 dev forum for a while now. I've just been to afraid to post anything. Lol.

Sent from a phone that's better than yo Momma's. bbq.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arthurbrownleeiv:
Never had any lag with SmartKeyboard Pro or whatever it is I'm using. I personally find it the best for landscape typing on the HD2 with my massive fingers.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GoCkillaz:
Haha I feel ya.

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[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
If you like the HD2, then surely the Desire HD is the more obvious upgrade option ? Big screen like the HD2, and a much faster processor than the HD2 (newer generation, don't just compare the clock speeds !).

Personally I love the Vision's hardware keyboard, because I don't lose a big chunk of my screen to an on-screen keyboard. But we all like different things, and it would be a very boring world if every single one of us liked the same phone best ! :D
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arthurbrownleeiv:
Much faster? It's not even a full revision different than the original Snapdragon. I haven't seen that it is "much" faster in anything. A bit faster? Yep.

Worth the doubling in price to get? Hardly.

Not to mention, it sounds like the OP is using the T-Mobile network, the DHD won't have 3G on that.