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[Hero CDMA Android Development] jaybob413:
<personal opinion>

For a previous employer, I spent more years than I would care to admit as a software architect, and I can testify that I have never produced anything that was not a derivative work, everything was based on synthesis, expansion, and integration of others work. (I would, however claim that in many cases the derivation produced a result that others found valuable, and in most cases required a non-trivial effort.) I would also say that every software developer I know would, in honesty, have to say the same. The "their work" / "my work" dichotomy misses the basic point that we are all dependent on the environment that has been created by those who came before us. Placing the last brick on the pyramid does not make one responsible for the building of the pyramid. There can certainly be value added in producing derivative works, but it is dependent on the community of practice that has developed and built the environment that we are trying to move forward.

"We are like dwarfs perched on the shoulders of giants, and thus we are able to see more and farther than the latter. And this is not at all because of the acuteness of our sight or the stature of our body, but because we are carried aloft and elevated by the magnitude of the giants"

- Bernard of Chartres - 12th Century

"If I have seen further it is only by standing on the shoulders of giants."

- Isaac Newton - 17th Century

My personal opinion is that one of the reasons others give you such a hard time is that there is a communication gap created by a perception of a lack of humility along with a lack or appreciation/accreditation for those who came before. This may not be your intention, but I can see how people can come to that perspective. The meaning of any communication is determined by the receiver with the burden being on the speaker to produce a shared interpretation. The interpretation the listener makes is the communication received, regardless of the interpretation you intended to produce. I believe that you would be better served by claiming less, crediting more, and leaving the assessment of value to others. In the open market, it is the consumer who ultimately determines the value of any offer. You cannot build a reputation for excellence by personal declaration of the greatness of your offer, only by the assessment of others who perceive a commitment to excellence and declare the value that the offer produced.

It is extremely difficult to support a claim of completely original work in this space, when there is a preponderance of prior art using similar approaches. It's like building a car and declaring you are not going to use wheels, because you didn't invent them, then later claiming "Yes, I used wheels, but these wheels are completely different". As you have seen, people will look for evidence of prior art, and they will find it. The value added is not in the "invention", but in the "innovation" (adoption by a community of practice).

</personal opinion>
[Hero CDMA Android Development] pstevep:
Well said sir.. and i agree 100%..
[Hero CDMA Android Development] etstanger:
I like how we're fighting and getting all philosophical over things that are against our warranties and violate our actual legal contracts with our cell phone providers. I think all of you need to take a step back and realize that we're all striving towards the same goal. None of us will ever meet each other. We're known on a website as a nickname, who cares if you stole something from someone else? How is that different from all the paid apps that are on this site for free? People worked on those, but you don't seem to care. Shut up and let the people that want to tweak their phones use other sources to do so. They owe you nothing.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] pstevep:
the "free" apps that are on this site are put on here by the developers themselves, most are tested by this community, before those devs publish them to the market.. anything that is not posted by the developer or without the developer's permission is warez and against forum rules.. if moderators see such things they can/will ban the people that do it.. most of us claim to be owed nothing.. and from a legal standpoint we do nothing illegal, voiding the warranty does not make it illegal, and in most cases (sprint at least) doesnt care, sprint knows about my rooted phone and is fine with it, they still do any work on it that it needs.. we arent owed anything, its just providing mutual respect to each other..

EDIT: Kif sorry for hijacking your thread.. i will let it be..;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fowenati:
Sounds good, don't worry about people who don't realize when you give credit and that the devs allow you. Once you get permission and give credit in the post, you're safe and it's all good. People who hate after that are just haters,xda is ggreat because devs help and benefit from other devs and help everyone at a price everyone can afford, free. I especially think monetizing a script would be the wrong idea because it is essentiallyt making profit of off help from other devs,but if there were a market app for this qwith a GUI monetizing would be ok as long as there was a free version with ads along with the paid app.keep doing what youre doing and don't give up, at least you contribute and that's what counts most. Also if you happen to get an evo, epic, or evo3d turns out i will have all 3 due to my uncle opening a cellshop in Seattle so I may be able to ttest stuff for em!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fowenati:
You get 1,000,000 internet points my good sire.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
There will be a free and payware version :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] BigBadBuu:
KIFNO,

Keep it up man--don't feel pressured to "prove your goodguy" status--in the very least, you're pushing community efforts forward and getting more folk involved. Be proud of your work: (lazy) people hate seeing talented/capable folk step-up, as it makes their lack of contribution all the more apparent.

You're obviously someone very capable of "learning" and "doing things"; however, as <dude> said before: "you're better off claiming less, crediting more, and leaving the assessment of value to others"... at least while you still need help/testers, etc.

Think of it as a game of: "how much bull**** can I dodge today?" It's super easy:

#1- set goals: "Today, I'll dodge 5 bull**** situations!"

#2- continuously keep track of score: "almost got me #4... haha!"

#3- smile, as you cruise through your day (hence the preceding "haha!")

Seriously--focus on your goals, help those able/willing to help you, ignore the rest. :)

Looking forward to 1.6 and beyond!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Pyr0TeK:
Hey Kifno,

Do me a favor... send a txt message to more than one person in one message, like add 2 or 3 recipients to a single message and let me know if it successfully sends to all of them. I tried sending a message to 2 people at once and I got a notification that one failed, so I tried it again to two different people, same failure notification to one of the recipients. Just wondering if this is a tweak issue with your v1.5 script. Just providing feedback on what I am currently running. :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Tibson:
He should be as proud as Kid Rock is of All Summer Long.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ehusidic:
How do most of you flash this tweak? Do we have to flash the rom all over again with a data wipe or what?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] unCoRrUpTeD:
I don't go around bashing people. My concern is that previously he didn't say where the tweaks came from until after the fact. I provided kif with the current script of setting everything up that he continues to use. I agree that most work has parts of other peoples included. I am not immune either. I have used things from other scripts, but 98% of my scripts are original. There's just some things that can't be done any other way.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
Exactly like how am i supposed to not use a for loop if i need a for infiinite loop? how am i not supposed to use a system file if i need that system file to apply a value to it? But uncorrupted you're the last person I'd bash on xda. You're probably my best friend on xda dude. :D

But besides what I said I used from others my script is original and when I release v2.0 (its 2.0 because its a jump from using others + my work to using only my work) they won't be anything from others I used :D right now i'm typing the documentation :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] lukieray2310:
I am running asop 2.3.3 but I just wanted to hear from you guys, what do you think the most efficient rom is? Fastest and easy. I don't need a lot of flashy stuff but I just wanted to know what you guys were using. And besides kifnos tweak, are there anything else running on your phone? Ex. Data2ext or whatever. Thanks fellas!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
any mods online? pm me asap please and thank you

this is important

edit: for those of you wondering, the newest version isn't out yet because instead of throwing together a documentation i'm trying to be as detailed as possible so that you can learn a little bit about android :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fowenati:
I'd say CM7 is pretty clean and Efficient. You can use Titanium Backup to delete apps you don't use in it but make sure you follow the safe list of apps to remove. (e.g. don't remove system ui or anything like that). Also you can edit the CM Settings for best performance and having less apps means more speed in general. Make sure you are not using any task killers.

What I use on my device:

1. CM7 Final

2. Kifno's Latest Tweak at any moment

3. S0be's .35 AP5 Kernel

4. Make sure JIT is off as it improves fuildity of UI (Quad scores will drop though)

Flash them in that order and I wipe my caches every week or so.

Make sure you keep your home and messaging apps in memory as well as make sure your over clock governor is set to performance or ondemand.

I also Launcher Pro (Plus), edit the settings in it for best performance.

There's a plethora of things you can do to speed up your hero, I just listed the biggest improvements.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
You shouldn't change the overclock governor if using this tweak......only way you should be changing it is if you modify the script itself :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fowenati:
Even if I installed s0be's Kernel on top of it?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
Install any kernel you'd like as long as it has the powersave, conservative, interactive, smartass, ondemand, and performance governors. Just if you're going to change the governor do it via the cpu tweak in the script.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fowenati:
Ah, I see. Alright then. What's the scripts default governor?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] 33hfl:
can someone help me with steps 10 and 11

10.Reboot

11.Reboot Recovery

thanks
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fowenati:
First restart your phone (reboot) and let it load up Android.

Then from there you should restart your phone into recovery (Hold Volume Down while turning phone on)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] 33hfl:
thanks a lot that was the step i missed
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fowenati:
np, and thanks buttons right there ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
it doesn't have one ;) open the script and read the file /system/bin/kifCPU.sh if you still have my v1.5
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cmnqei:
What is the status of 1.6?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cantplay:
General Barnike: "Where the hell have you been Soldier."

John: "Training Sir."

Platoon: "Training Sir."

General: "What kind of training son."

John: "AAAAAArmy training sir."

Platoon: "Army training sir."
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cmnqei:
alrighty then:cool:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] davec1234:
Is today tomorrow yet?

I checked yesterday and it still wasn't tomorrow yet.

I was hoping today would be tomorrow finally.

No rush, get back to me tomorrow.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
There won't be a v1.x

I'm jumping to v2.0 because it'll be all my scripting work :)

EDIT:	v2.0 is ready but I'm typing explanation for the scripts and tweaks so you all can learn :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
I'm typing explanation for v2.0 so you all can know exactly what I'm doing :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Pyr0TeK:
Explain later... put it up! Glad to see you went with my recommendation and moving to v2.0 instead v1.x. :) :) :)

KifnoTweaks v2.0 :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Pyr0TeK:
My signature contains what I am using and my phone has never run better. :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Pyr0TeK:
I got no reply to my post on this thread yesterday and reposting... :)

Someone... anyone...

I have v1.5 installed. Do me a favor... send a txt message to more than one person in one message, like add 2 or 3 recipients to a single txt message and let me know if it successfully sends to all of them. I tried sending a message to 2 people at once and I got a notification that one failed, so I tried it again to two different people, same failure notification to one of the recipients. Just wondering if this is a tweak issue with the v1.5 script or something else. Just providing feedback on what I am currently running.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cmnqei:
Thanks for the update kifno. Looking forward to the update.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cmnqei:
great movie
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ehusidic:
GAH! I'm ready for 2.0 and then I think I'm finally gonna stop messing with my phone for a while. Seems like I can't stay off XDA since the PSN went down and it might be another week before its up.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ehusidic:
After having this tweak flashed on the cyanogenmod rom is it ok to mess with the cpu settings?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
NO! NEVER EVEN OPEN THE CYANOGENMOD CPU SETTINGS, EVER! Or this tweak will be almost a complete waste of time in terms of the cpu handling. So I wouldn't recommend it.

Also I'm typing the explanation for v2.0 still. There is a lot going on that I want you all to understand just in case you ever get into tweaking (tweaking really isn't hard its just a matter of testing the output of a "tweak" to see if it really is a beneficial tweak :D Rom developmentm theming and scripting are much harder than tweaking :D)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] torq1337:
1 Small question... Is that only for HTC Hero or is that a "Universal" script...

You tiped thats working on AOSP Ginger 2.3... I got a AOSP Ginger 2.3 on my tuned LG GT540 and I would try it out, normal, on my RISK :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
the app version of this will be on the yaam market everyone once the team and myself get the app developed :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] torq1337:
GENIUS :D i hope you will post the v2.0 as soon as possible xD :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
Typing documenation takes a while and it will be post poned just a few minutes more after that because I just manually checked kifCPU.sh in bin directory and i have a minor syntax error :p

but i think i fixed it :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fowenati:
lol

tenchars
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fowenati:
Both I believe
[Hero CDMA Android Development] HEROEVO:
Why? What exactly does the tweak change and why does it interfere with the settings?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] il Duce:
@fowenati - you should REALLY refrain from telling people with other devices (which means they have different kernels and processors) that it's cool to flash stuff that is intended for and built from the heroC. Oh and asking people for money in your sig to buy you a frakking computer is just plain offensive, and kinda moochy.

@kifno, I just read your OP again for no reason, you said GPU performance.... Please explain this voodoo, because AFAIK none of the hall of fame devs ever were able to overclock the GPU, please do tell.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] davec1234:
Perhaps we should attend a class conducted by queefno? The class must be public, to avoid repetition.

I can't get no Queefno tweakification, no no no.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
The complete android os universal script is in the android development and apps sections (or the name of that sub-forum is something like that :p)

Don't use this one for your phone use the other one. Only heroc users should use this :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
I have a setcpu replacement intergrated into the tweak that is IMO better than setcpu :D

Please read first post for more info :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
AGREE COMPLETELY. No offense though fowenati just don't ask for money, let people donate from the kindness of their heart for your help/work :D

EDIT: read the thread from deca and other mods.

For no reason? Hehe :D I haven't overclocked the GPU, just changed some of the files the GPU uses so better graphics performance, much better :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ehusidic:
Kifno I've got the latest 2.1 espresso running and its flawless! I cant wait to see how the 2.0 tweak will help it out. Will it be aimed more at battery life or performance?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] HEROEVO:
That didn't answer my question, it's just all vague info in the first post...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] il Duce:
I am curious HOW you did this, can you please explain it so that I can apply it to my phone if I want? I do not want to flash your tweak, I do some tweaking of my own and I prefer the built in cpu settings, both of which interfere with this zip. So please, tell me and the other members HOW you did this and what files you changed/added/deleted that "the GPU uses" - that way more knowledge is shared and everyone gets better and can benefit. Thanks in advance :):):)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
It's perfectly equal in every way which is why it's so great :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ehusidic:
Good deal, can't wait for the release. est?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fowenati:
I never said for them to flash the all phones one for the hero, I was just saying that I you shouldn’t use CPU things with either tweak. I read up on both tweaks, not just this one. Kifno has a universal tweak you know... That's what I was talking about, sorry if I was misunderstood. Also I don't just stay in Hero forums because I mod many phones for many people for free right now (my website in sig is under development, not active yet, I don't charge for anything im doing right now), so I am not oblivious to issues with many phones and know how many of the tweaks (including kifno's universal one) work on them. I would NEVER advise someone to flash a Phone/ROM Specific tweak/zip/theme/ANYTHING to something it's not meant for. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

As for the sig, yeah.... I thought that but wasn't sure. Im in desperate need of getting a desktop. Working from 2 half-ass (please excuse my language) laptops isnt cutting it for me, I've been trying to get a good theme together. I'll change my sig though, I see how it is kinda rude and gaudy.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fowenati:
Yeah, didn't know what I was thinking, will change now :)

EDIT: Done, removed it and reduced size in general.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
Okay will do there are certain files I found that GREATLY affect the performance of the GPU's performance. The libGLES_qcom.so, libGLES_android.so, gralloc.msm7k.so, and gralloc.morrison.so.

This affect the openGL ES for our heroc's (as well as many other files). Now what I did was take those four files FROM EVERY ANDROID PHONE. And then I tried almost every combination of the files from every phone possible (except from the droid because dearasfamily already discovered we could uses the droid's openGL ES file for better performance :D). So I discovered that the only other phone with better graphics performance than our herocs that made it possible for our phones to get better graphics performance was........THE MOTOROLA CLIQ :D

Please take the zip below and place these files in the following directories (the same directories they are in in the zip just push the the android system) and change their permissions to rw-r-r aka chmod 644 :D

I've been using this personally for about 1-2 months now :D

Might I add the opengles that I use from the motorola cliq, is much better than the opengles that dearasfamily uses :D

Enjoy, I have yet to figure out how to overclock our GPU which the Hero GSM phones have done. If we could overclock our GPU + use the motorola cliq's opengles 1.1 = we truly have achieved great graphics performance of the hero :D Hopefully I can figure that out before I upgrade to a better phone in a few months. If I could that would be awesome :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
I'm still typing the documentation so that everyone can understand why I did what I did. It's really detailed and its taking a while to type. But the v2.0 is finished and it has 4 builds. 2 builds under 2 different versions of the script:

NO LATENCY/LATENCY TWEAKS:

This is mainly for the phones that lag. Want to know why? My latency tweaks aren't playing well with that kernel on that phone's rom.

This will have everything else the latency tweaking version has just not the latency tweaks. There will be a 691mhz version and a 768mhz version for both the no latency and latency tweaks version :D :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
Its cool don't stress bro :D You're fine :D As for the sig, yeah just do your thing on xda w/o asking for donations. If people appreciate what you do enough to donate, then take it as a thanks for your help and keep it up/motivation. But don't ask for money, that's different, real different. We all make mistakes and I'm just helping you out dude you're fine bro :D

Now say chicken finger licking 30x :p
[Hero CDMA Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
Gpu overclocks have been done on other devices before, dzo of vogue android fame overclocked their gpu, as for the hero im not even sure if it has a gpu of its own if it does its crap
[Hero CDMA Android Development] il Duce:
we have a GPU, and it's CRAP, darch and deca and some other super-devs were trying to OC the thing a while back without success, that's why I was asking/prodding.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
oh and v2.0 and the documentation is finished BUT i'm running through v2.0 again on a fresh flash to make sure no errors occur in the script (right now it seems as though the lock screen being turned on and off caused an error :( its a minor mistype in my bash script i bet...i hate when i type to fast in bash scripting because minor mistypes can cause MAJOR PROBLEMS and are a pain in the "my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard" :eek: :D lol, to fix.

i love being so goofy :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Decad3nce:
Thread has been re-opened and cleaned.

Action has been taken regarding the issue based on forum rules.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bravo1565:
I was wondering what the status was regarding this tweak from the sound of it it looks like your almost done great work kifno can't wait for this release
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fowenati:
lol wut I just ate some chicken n watched the lakers. boy do i love me some lakers..... mmmm
[Hero CDMA Android Development] kijp15:
@kifno,

Can't wait till the next release. Ha. Good job bro.

@Deca,

My bad for the misunderstanding again.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] texas83:
Am looking forward to the update!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] abadasstanker69:
Just to let you guys know, we are working on the apk now as well. I don't know about an eta but we're working on it!

my signature is better than yours
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
Yup :D :D :D :D :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
Can't post v2.0 yet, I'm talking with a certain someone about something VERY VERY VERY important.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Pyr0TeK:
Just rename the thread to **REMOVED BY KIFNO UNTIL SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE** because tomorrow has come and gone a couple of times. :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Tibson:
The excitement level seems to be down to 400% now :(
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Dubbin_Irie:
Question for ya kifno. Why wouldn't you credit the users that have helped u learn the processes necessary to build this? Just asking. It's been a great journey so far though.