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[Captivate General] ninjuh:
You can barely hear level 1. Do you live in a library or what?

assonance 5.2
[Captivate General] geokilla:
I think he is talking about when he plugs in headphones into his Captivate. I agree with him, it's way too loud. And I haven't found a way to make it softer either.
[Captivate General] gaiking:
On my Captivate level 1 is still too loud for the system "click" sound...I like it more subtle. My HTC Aria gives me much more control over the system sounds and I just want to get the same on the captivate.
[Captivate General] jsbac:
I too am annoyed by the system sounds...the "clicking" when navigating through the menus. I like the feedback and setting the volume low for the system sound works great for me (I don't normally use headphones). The problem is, every so often, the volume gets turned back up. Why is it doing this? And how do I get it to "stick". I haven't really found a rhyme or reason -- I can reboot and the volume will still be set how I had it....other times I can just turn the screen on and the volume will be turned back up.

Ghosts?
[Captivate General] fldude99:
I believe if you dial *#*#197328640#*#* it gets you into a menu where #5 is audio. It's possible you can mess around in there and adjust the volume levels
[Captivate General] PaullikesWINMO:
why not just turn the system volume down and leave the others at regular volume high ?
[Fascinate General] Chewy1576:
Hey all,

I have flashed DJ05, rooted, and installed the Voodoo5 lagfix kernel/JT's super clean ROM via ROM Manager.

This morning, I attempted to install extra fonts using ROM Manager and the device fell into a reboot cycle. I attempted to boot CWM to restore the last backup I made and after that several force close warnings would pop up and the phone would reset itself. (This is where my inexperience and lack of research comes in).

Using Odin, I tried to reflash back to stock DJ05 to start over. Not realizing that I should have removed the lag fix and reflash a different kernel before reflashing using Odin.

Now the device is in a continuous reset loop and won't boot any software at all. I have attempted to reflash CWM and at least get that to boot but nothing.

How bad is my device messed up? Is there any salvaging anything at this point? Is there a way to restore the MBR without CWM and get it to boot correctly? Command line? Anything?
[Fascinate General] Neuman.Tim:
Find a full di01 or dj05 odin flash and use that in odin. It will completely format and reload everything short of touching your sd card. This should in theory get you back to stock. In fact search the forum for "odin restore files to get you back to stock"

SCH-I500 - DL09/Deodexed/JT1134 12.30/Darkstar
[Fascinate General] Chewy1576:
I tried reflashing using the stock DJ05 files and it still is in the reset loop. It shows the SAMSUNG screen, then the screen where it shows the /data and /cache partitions being formatted, then resets again.

Could there be something wrong with the /boot partition? Is there a way to restore that partition?
[Fascinate General] Neuman.Tim:
I know it seems redundant but try it with the di01 odin from adrynalyn

SCH-I500 - DL09/Deodexed/JT1134 12.30/Darkstar
[Fascinate General] aes55:
Also make sure you use the PIT while flashing the stock images - that will ensure that voodoo is completely removed in the process.
[Fascinate General] rushringleader:
I did that to my first Fascinate and I was never able to fix it, despite several, and I mean several reflashes and methods. Brought it to Verizon and they gave me a replacement. Sorry to be the bringer of bad news
[Fascinate General] skynet11:
If flashing DI01 stock doesn't work by itself, doing a Master Clear and flashing DI01 again might work. If you still can't get your phone to launch, it's probably time to go with ringleader's solution.
[Fascinate General] Chewy1576:
Adrenalyne's DI01 reflash worked! Thanks for the help!
[Fascinate General] Neuman.Tim:
Welcome brother :) should be able to flash the dj05 odin over that now and be good to go again.

SCH-I500 - DL09/Deodexed/JT1134 12.30/Darkstar
[myTouch 4G General] dani26286:
...or is it just me?
[myTouch 4G General] gohausmachine:
It would have been a better fit. The only thing missing is NFC and this phone would've really shined with some vanilla flavor.
[myTouch 4G General] dani26286:
my feelings exactly.
[myTouch 4G General] xdviper:
Yeah, plus the battery life with the N1 and this, have no difference so yeah.

This is one of the top high end Android phone in the US right now and I'm feeling good about it.
[myTouch 4G General] dani26286:
oh yea!

i'm gonna be off topic with this comment,but imagine this scenario:

Monday morning,after a busy weekend with your loved ones,cuz of the holydays,you weak up to the sound of your beautifull,new,latest most fullfing android device on the market (my opinion at least, don't even make me start about NS,huuuumunnnnguusss disspointment). Your beloved phone,wich at times could be compared with a second or third girlfriend cuz of the amount of time an android/android based device fanatic actually spends on it,and maintains it, not only by himself,but by an unbelivebly well structured comunity...

o_O

Ok,moving on to the point of this scenario,so your MT4G is waking u up,cuz you gotta go to work,right?

Wouldn't it be nice if the first thing u see would be the MT4G in an apple like dock (just gotta admit they make beautifull designs for theyr devices), in a dock like mode in wich you have all the important info u need to start the day,like time,day,temperature,latest news and various updates, and THAN a MENU that gives u,from your bed ,barrely waking up, acces to the most imprtant ,if not all the devices in your home,through whatever wirelles way possible, alowing u to,bassically,customize your day,the same way you know you love to customize your phone...

Now thats where I hope GOOGLE and ANDROID are going, and at the same time beeing opened source and not invade ones privacy :D...sorry google,only love for you,but had to say that!

That would be a great way to start your new year. You guys agree?
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
Nope, I completely agree with you and have thought this since day 1. HTC had the g1 and n1 so I was curious why Samsung got the ns.
[myTouch 4G General] porter66062:
Would have been nice if HTC would have thrown a SAMOLED2 in the phone, but as someone that moved from a N1 to the MT4G, this phone has been a great successor.

As for the NFC, it would have been nice, but to be honest, I don't see it taking off in the very near future in the US. And by the time it does, we'll probably have a very good replacement from T-Mobile.
[myTouch 4G General] Jaskwith:
LOL, I found the first paragraph very ammusing, haha..

I think the reason it wasn't is because TMO wanted to market this phone as theirs because of the video chat capability... and they wanted the consumers to associate a good phone with their name, where as the N1 was googles baby, and while you could look at it and say it was an amazing phone, you didni't really give anymore credibililty to TMO. This way, tmobile looks good to consumers. Looking at things now.... the nexus S blows, but I don't really blame TMO for that, I can blame google or Samsuck for really dropping the ball there...so smart move on TMO part, IMO
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
Little known fact. The MyTouch3G was going to be known as the Google Ion, and was going to be the precursor to the Nexus Line.

I think the MyTouchHD would of been a perfect phone for the second generation Nexus Line. How ever, they did just over clock the phone to 1.2Ghrz and the quadrant scores look AMAZING.

I think they undercooked this phone. It's so close to being perfect but Samsung doesn't know the difference between sh!t and Shinola
[myTouch 4G General] PlankLongBeard:
A Lot Ppl would not know that! That's like explaining something in Russian to a Jew. LoL..

The Mytouch 3G was used heavy as a dev device before the N1 came out. HTC has always been the device not by choice but for not having something else avail. The N1 was basically a revamped version of the Touch and Other Ideas that were on the Drawing Table.

The Nexus S by Samsung is by far hands down the best addition to the Nexus Line. I am also very glad that this is number two in the Line and no other garbage took its place.

Always Remember: The Nexus Line is Google's way of being open with their dev devices, hence "Pure Google". All other devices are literally bastard children that carry a logo that says "with Google" to represent their honorary build.

Sent From a Crop Circle... with a Nexus S :)
[myTouch 4G General] Jaylito.:
well it's a part of the original "mytouch" line phones ... it's a mt4g not a nexus touch4g. just saying, cause this phone is a successor of the mytouch3g. like how the g2 is for the g1. when the htc hero came out they were calling it a g2, but it wasn't the successor. plus this kills the nexus in so many ways! mytouch has so much custom UI put into it, talking about the slide & this, whereas nexus is just all straight android vanilla without all the bloatware. look at the nexus s, that's pretty much the successor since I heard they won't come out with a nexus 2. but all this is just IMO ;)
[myTouch 4G General] ScottC:
No it wasn't. The Google Ion was the developer version of the HTC Magic which came out at least a year before the N1. Never seen any reference to ION being relaunched at the MT3G.
[myTouch 4G General] kitsunisan:
The magic and the mytouch are the same phone. The magic shipped with 288mb ram, the mytouch, until February 2010, shipped with 192mb. Aside from the color, I believe there is no difference between the ion and the magic. Its just that the ion was never on sale to the public, unless I'm mistaken.
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
I guess sarcasm doesn't fit into your vocabulary? :rolleyes:
[myTouch 4G General] neidlinger:
There are two different MyTouch3G phones. The PV32A and the PV32B, The "A" variant is a Google Issued phone. That is the dev phone.
[myTouch 4G General] Arcadia310:
I got the MT4G on release date and I'm still in awe at how well built, and feature packed this device is. If they released this with AOSP and called it the Nexus Two no one would be disappointed. I can't believe that T-Mobile of all carriers released such a high end, future proofed device. Most devices are lacking in some area, but the MT4G isn't lacking at all. It has everything and more. I love this device so much, it's the first android handset I've owned where I haven't had any complaints with it.

There must be some political issues behind Google going to Samsung for the Nexus S and not HTC. HTC makes such better devices. You have the G2 and Desire HD which are industrial business looking devices, then you have the MT4G with a completely different design than anything else on the market and it appeals to almost all demographics. Whether you're a first time smartphone buyer or a seasoned Android veteran you will appreciate this device for what it can offer to you. I'm the latter and I have my MT4G hooked up with Gingerbread (complete with the NS screen off animation) and overclocked to 1.8Ghz. What more can you ask for?

The release of the Nexus S really changed my mind about Google and how they view the Nexus family. I don't think Google gives a **** about the average consumer so they don't include things like HD Video Recording, a Notification Light, FFC, Micro SD Card Slot for people with tons of music and videos etc. Instead they give you the bare bones and honestly, the only reassuring factor for the price is the idea of getting tons of Google updates first. That's all fine and dandy if the phone is priced right. $580 is simply too much for a smartphone that lacks so many features regardless of how you want to argue about it.

Right now the MT4G is the top android device on the market. Even when the first dual core devices come out I will still stick with my MT4G until something comes along that is the successor to it. The next smartphone that I make my daily driver will have to surpass the MT4G in every area; hardware, camera/video quality, screen, design etc.

I've been 100% happy with my purchase since day 1. This is the first time I can say this about any android device I've owned.
[myTouch 4G General] excarnate:
The Russian Jews I went to school with would probably say "That's like trying to explain something to a person who uses extraneous LoL's" or more likely they'd avoid your presence entirely.

The rest of what you said made as much sense.

What would have helped is if you said "No, it wouldn't be the natural successor..." or "Yes, it would have been..." to start out with.

I sure would have preferred the MyTouch 4G as the new Google phone. It has all the extra pieces many phones don't have that a dev might want to test such as a FFC and 4G. Superior to the Nexus S, it has a memory card slot and working GPS (I assume the GPS on the Nexus S is as good as on any (other?) i9000 series phone).

The beautiful (and tough) screen on the Nexus S might be nice, but it doesn't much matter to a developer testing something, n'cest pas?
[myTouch 4G General] jc_byrd:
Case and point for what its worth... I wanted the NS so bad when I heard about it (I had the G1> MyTouch Fender> then finally MT4G. I'm sorry but that NS is a pain in the **** to get when I can just drop by TMobile and pick this one up. F best buy for cell phones I like t mobile stores I pay them I go to them. Plus this phone runs tits rooted and oc'd @ 1.6-1.7 with no crashes at all ... I've had one crash @ 1.8 big woop. And I know for a fact I haven't been able to get this phone to stutter at all it does everything flawless and fast bottom line.
[myTouch 4G General] kitsunisan:
The "A" variant is the HTC magic, released in the UK and in Canada with Rogers. For some reason t-mobile decided to go with the "B" for North America at launch. All Mytouch 3G phones built after February 2010 are A as well. Main difference is the amount of available ram.
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
I know lots of Russians, lots of Jews, and several Russian Jews. I'm Jewish and 2/4 (both parents were 1/2) Russian myself.

I just wish everyone could speak English at a respectable high school level so I don't cringe when I read some of the posts around here. English as a second language has a free pass though; learning a second language is HARD.

Back on topic - I totally agree that it must have been political. HTC seems to be the Android leader so Samsung getting the NS came out of left field in my eyes. Not to mention the hardware being blatantly inferior to the MT4G, ie; HSPA+, additional RAM, SD slot. I still don't get that.

Also never understood why the US got the inferior 32B. The entire reason I rooted that thing in the first place was so I could overclock it to try and run Navi and Pandora at the same time. I should have bought a N1 in the first place.
[myTouch 4G General] chrisjs81:
I am somewhat glad that the nexus s is what it is, because I have no reason to regret my mytouch 4g purchase. (Bought before SNS was announced.)

Google has previously made comments about constantly rotating manufacturers to not play favorites. Hopefully the next one isn't made by sony ericson. :)

In the end it doesn't matter as we have full root on this device now, but it would have been nice if those restrictions weren't there to begin with. Maybe the recent lock downs that motorola and htc have been doing pushed them to samsung.

Having the phone named nexus blah blah means nothing to me.

And for what its worth, I think the decent internal memory and no sd slot on the nexus s fits in with google's push into cloud services. No reason to load up on storage if all your data's in the cloud.
[myTouch 4G General] agovinoveritas:
Currently I am on the Nexus One and it is an awesome device which still can stand on its own. However, a carrier change has put me in a position that I have to sell my N1 and I was looking at either the NS or GalaxyS.

The NS is such a let down, as it seems as if Google truly decided to cut corners. How can the GalaxyS be better than Google's line? Anyway, I am not too keen on the GalaxyS simply because after playing with it seems, a little fragile. Although I do like the screen, I have to admit.

However, since I want to future proof my phone, I think HSDPA+ is a must if I am going to purchase something now. I find the 3.7 screen on the N1 acceptable, so 3.8 is a good compromise. What do you guys think? Specially talking about the Galaxy S? Since it also has Gorilla glass and that is always a good thing.
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
I would highly recommend an HTC device over a Samsung. The screens are beautiful but after playing with both I like HTC much bettter.
[myTouch 4G General] dani26286:
I agree with phateless.

by god... o_O, samsung could be the F**** best,if they wouldn't come up with such cheap builds, tryin to hide all flaws behind a crisp screen. why samsung? don't tell me u ain't got the money to make/buy better parts? Reaaalllyyy????

as for my mt4g. i have been trying to root it for a while now,and nothing i try seems to work for me. but its ok i guess for now, cuz this phone is fast and feature proof,and the only reason i want to root is to delete all the damn bloatweare. that can wait for now.

me for one,i acknoledge htc grouth,from plastici unappealing builds to better ones like desire hd. maybe samsung is coming along...or maybe cheap plastic makes for good speeds and conectivity...no wait,it still doesn't. the galaxy s line still has flaws like that.

anyway,as somebody else said how cares about a samoled screen,if everything else is crap?
[myTouch 4G General] dani26286:
"LG THINQ WILL ALLOW YOU TO SINC YOUR HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES", via talkandroid.

^_^ my dreams are coming true...
[myTouch 4G General] defiantbeast:
You may be right. But then tmobile should have gone with stock android like they did with the g2. It makes updates all that much easier. When i first saw the mytouch 4g i didnt think anything special of it, but after playing with one for a few days looking at the build quality and the sheer speed i agree that this would have been a better choice for the next nexus.
[myTouch 4G General] needmoregigs:
I just bought my girl a red mytouch 4g last week. I must say that I'm thoroughly impressed with the phone. It is on the heavy side but is very solid. The os is butter smooth. The hardware is bleeding edge. I would sell my nexus one to get it if I had the chance. I friggin hate my nexus when it comes to stability and hardware quality. I love that the mt4g has hardware buttons and an optical trackpad. The mt4g would be perfect if it had a vanilla android variant but the mysense skin has its charms.
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
That actually does make a lot of sense, especially with the way T-mobile is marketing this phone. I've been with T-mobile for 6 years and the MT4G is the first phone that really seems to have the attention of the general public. Most people know what it is and a lot of people are impressed with it, ask what it is, ask about the 4G speeds.

Even my gf who loved her iPhone and would never look at Android said she wants a MT4G and now loves the Captivate I got her. :D
[myTouch 4G General] MvP77:
I said that exact same thing
[myTouch 4G General] dani26286:
you are so right with what u say!!!
[myTouch 4G General] xdviper:
Even though, I have never owned a Nexus one, I love the design of that phone. It's thin, it looks minimalist, and just a super sexy phone IMO. I like my MT4G, but damnit, sometimes the hard buttons and the speaker grill just annoy the **** out of me when I look at it and think about the Nexus One.

Even though I think the MT4G should have been the N2, the design shouldn't have been the same and more like the G2 or N1 instead.
[myTouch 4G General] dani26286:
i am happy with it just the way it is, it is perfect for me, especially now that i have full access to it.

IMO, N1 is last years news, that is still an actuality! NS should of been the mT4G as an N2, with its overall feel and presence/performance
[myTouch 4G General] ~~Tito~~:
MT4G should not be the natural successor, it was designed with the thoughts of the previous MyTouch so it reflects the previous version. The G2 should have been the next nexus brand phone.
[myTouch 4G General] jriv:
no the g2 is the succeser to the g1.the g series is always gonna have a keyboard the n series does not

Sent from my icy cold glacier freezing every phone in its path
[myTouch 4G General] dani26286:
ok, i'll bite!

but at least allow me to add the features of my mt4g to your g2 in the proccess,get a better slider for the keyboard and an ffc. overall shell design and colors don't have any importance to me, as long as it feels and is a strong build...

u agree?
[myTouch 4G General] ~~Tito~~:
I know that, BUT the G2 is basically a developer phone, better than the Nexus S. Either way, none of these phones should be the Nexus succssor. A new HTC made Nexus should be the successor with all new HW. Same minimalistic design.
[myTouch 4G General] dani26286:
agreed!

the only reason i started this thread was to show the fact that even if the nexus s (or g line) should of been the next big thing from google as the preffered base for the pure experience they want to deliver through software and hardweare, sammy sucked at delivering a device to meet all the standards, and in my opinion, at that point up until now, is that any washed out creacky ffc off centered mt4g would of done a better job,performance wise, since i had a chance to play arround with any of the above.

i wast just currios about other opinions, since we all are the end users, we want things to be our way. that is why android is opened source.

it was no at all intended to be a fanatic debate, unlike this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=914049

and i also think that from a market strategy point of view,even if the g1 from htc ( G witch could easily stand for Genesis= beginning, also) brought android to life in the generic public/consumer eye, the n line was supposed to be the evolution of that. so in my opinion google has these 2 as standpoints for lower performance (the path of G now as i see it) and and higher performance (N line) advising this way the manufacturers and carriers to go with those limits for the best possible experience google can give us with android. of course, different companies have different strategies, thus why every company adds it's own interface, to make it there own, using android as an excuse for lower end devices, just to sell the damn thing and not give any further support, therefore delays in updates and all, among other excuses, and birocracies. and with this goes out the window google's efforts!

still we are having a polemic about this great linux based superphone os called android, cuz it made our lives so much easier, no matter what shape and size.

the only conclusion i have gotten so far is that sammy ****ed it up!

...is all!
[myTouch 4G General] dani26286:
i really hope the next phone of the N line lives up to the hipe, i would really love to own a pure google phone from the monent i get it out of the box, but i really want it to be waaaay better then the mt4g i own, wich now has the gingerbread flavor of CM7. IMO nothing beats this phone,as i write,especially with CM on board.

also,i hope they provide a better material then that damn glossy plastic. pls make it less fingerprint magnet,cuz that aint' no brilliant strategy to sell accesories. thats way it doesnt sell as expected. lets be less money hungry,and provide better quality for those money .

htc learned the lesson...so!