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[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maurei:
Thats what I'm saying my friend - you CAN have root AND 1.72

Its not possible to root fromin 1.72, but it IS possible to maintain root as you upgrade from 1.32 to 1.72 :).

Reading my previous post made me realize it wasn't so clear.

I meant:

Then, for updating (=manually installing the update through recoverymode) the phone correctly (correctly =MAINTAINING ROOT and S-OFF), follow that guide.

Be sure you have ENG S-OFF and Radio S-OFF + permroot with Visionary+.

Also, be sure not to remove any preinstalled apps as this will cause unnecessary problems during the install
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joaquin_c:
Sorry if I wasn't able to make myself clear.

My goal is not to have a rooted device. Maybe in the future I'll make this step if it will be necesary.

I want my device as new one, from store. I explained in the first post of this thread why I'm in this situation.

Through this thread I want to find a way to get OTA updates.

BTW, I understood that if the device is rooted OTA updates aren't possible. So I installed visionary+ and I used the "unroot now" button and I received this message: "your device doesn't appear to be rooted" or something like this.

It seems is not about unroot or s-on (see the 3rd post, too).

Anyway, if somebody has any idea, it would be apreciated to share.

Thanks,

Joaquin
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr.m0x:
You should at least get radio s-off before you upgrade. You'll thank me later if you decide you do actually want root.

Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joaquin_c:
I've read about this and if I'll decide to upgrade I'll do it for sure.

Thanks,

Joaquin
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tzbob:
Is it possible to compile modules into it?

After some searching i've read reports on the joydev module being the only thing needed for gamepads or joysticks to work, could it be compiled into the android kernel? I've read about something similar being done to Maemo

EXT4 was added to the kernel, could the same thing be done with ntfs-3g?

How about additional drivers for webcams? I have no idea if this is remotely possible I'd like to have some answers on this?^^

I know I should and could find these answers myself but I thought it'd be easier to ask since I don't need the answer right now.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] desiresush:
You can rebuild your own kernel with your own options, either by "embedding" the module into the kernel, or just by building the corresponding .ko file that you will load when needed.

I did it to include ext4+btrfs+reiserfs+nfs+ntfs+cifs+...+/proc/config.gz support, you can do it by following chulri's post at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=891056
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Clown:
Moved to general, as not rom development
[EVO 4G General] james33440:
I currently have a Moment (and it sucks: which is why I don't want an Epic yet alone another Samsung).

I'm wanting a new phone that can handle 3d games without lagging.

I have heard that the new Evo Shift will have the same 800mhz chip that is in the new G2. That chip has been overclocked to a stable 1.6ghz and getting over 3000 in Quadrant.

Also the other rumor is that the Shift will have an upgraded GPU. Which is even better.

Honestly the 3.8" screen isn't that much smaller than the screen on the Evo. It could be the perfect size.

Plus it has a physical keyboard.

Truthfully, it sounds like I already made up my mind. But I guess I have to wait until specs and reviews are out for this phone.

Anyone else getting this Shift over an Evo?
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
If the 3D gaming is that important, and it was concerning the two, than sure I think most would suggest the Shift.

But at this point I'd also suggest seeing what's on the horizon and truth be told Sprint doesn't have the grandest selection but I can see that changing. Some big **** around the corner, but if now - or soon - a new phone is needed and that's what your primary concern is, then the Shift probably your best bet.

SWYPED from my SUPASONIC
[EVO 4G General] live2ride96:
CES is coming up this week, I believe, so I'd hold off and see what news comes out of there. Might be something sweet coming down the pipe. We'll have to see.
[EVO 4G General] spiicytuna:
Ohh! Ohhh! Get Both :-) The evo for now and the shift when it comes out :D
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
because you want games...

then EVO Shift is for you!

I need the bigger screen. It dont sound like much... but when you put them side by side... it is a big difference!
[EVO 4G General] james33440:
True. But the super amoled screen of the epic is awesome. I actually like that than the evo. It really is all up to what the final specs are off the Shift.
[EVO 4G General] dkdude36:
if gaming is what you want, shift could be for you. do not get the shift for the keyboard. i can type faster on swype than i ever could with a slide out. you might not think .4 inches is much, but the evo screen is much bigger than the shift screen. i'd look at both side by side and see.
[EVO 4G General] -shift-:
>_<

Swyped from my EVO
[EVO 4G General] dkdude36:
?????????

<_>
[EVO 4G General] bjb_nyj101:
Personally, I would wait for something else all together.

Something with a better processor & gpu. This summer should have what you're looking for (although maybe not from HTC).
[EVO 4G General] ViViDboarder:
If you want games then, as said, the Shift is probably for you.

As for physical keyboards, overrated. When I had a Samsung Intercept while my EVO was being "serviced" by Best Buy I only used it because the touch screen was so useless on that thing.

Typing on the EVO is awesome. Keys are bigger than any slide out since the screen is so big. It all comes to preference though.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/01/02/sprints-htc-evo-shift-4g-specs-leak-online/

some more specs have been released...

I am considering it.

I want a front facing camera... and 8meg camera.

i want to hear about the CPU/GPU and RAM.

can I live with 3.7" vs my current EVO 4.3"??

what are your thoughts on the dev community for this phone?

The EVO has so much more activity before it was released. And the Dev community is great on the EVO.
[EVO 4G General] james33440:
Latest spoiler from a feed that I'm subscribed to only has this Shift with a 5 mega-pixel camera not 8 and no front camera.

If this is true then I will not get this phone. I'll buy a pair of EVO's off eBay and save my upgrades for something better.
[EVO 4G General] navoid:
Why not consider the epic. You had an old samsung phone that sucked? Well I had an old htc phone that sucked 2 years ago, but all phones are different.

The samsung galaxy s line is really fast, and with the new ext4 mod on the epic, its crazy fast, like nexus s fast.

If you care about a keyboard, gaming, and camera quality the epic will be as good as or better than the shift.

And don't fall into the mega pixel trap when comparing cameras. The evo camera aint great and video sucks. The shift will be just like the tmobile g2, which is very good. Finally the epic takes pictures and video that rival the iphone in quality, which is to say the best in class for cellphones. With the epic , you can leave your digital camera at home.

Really do a thorough comparison of the epic and evo shift in person before you decide. Don't let yourself be fooled by differnces in 2.1 vs 2.2 software or touchwiz vs sense. You will have changed all your software in a week anyway with xda.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
LOL difference is everyone was hesitant to jump back on with Samsung, and for good reason. At least these people that were nervous can sleep easy knowing they were right and that Samsung hasn't done much to change the tune others sing. And when the day arrives that I leave my digitial camera at home and rely SOLELY on a phone ... well, heck, that probably wont happen for a while. I've seen pictures taken with a crappy old 3mp digital cam that look crisper and better in every sense of the word.

Samsung dropped the ball, Epic has nice hardware but they don't compare to HTC. And HTC may not have a perfect track record in the past but they have definitely stepped it up lately.

The Galaxy S phones have been pretty down the middle, some good to go with all that bad.

edit; don't want to discount the fact that the Epic is a decent phone, will be the 3rd best Sprint offering (Whoa - never thought I'd give Sprint props like that) but it should at least "irk" you, and maybe not you directly, with how the whole Galaxy S phones have been handled. Especially with all the talk of Android not getting updates and Samsung support being piss poor. 2.1 treats it fine, my buddies epic flies sure but Touchwiz is horrid and the state of support or lack thereof should be the straw that breaks the camels back or however the hell that goes. I couldn't see anyone honestly suggesting the Epic over the Shift though, as was my point. And the Mega pixel jab, that was true and maybe a low blow but when people hear someone saying "this camera ownz leave dat digi at home, homeboi" it only sets people up for disappointment. Truly and honestly. That's a slight(ly bogus) exaggeration. If not, you must not possess a decent shooter. And no, I'm not talking about the one on the back of the phone. ;)

SWYPED from my SUPASONIC
[EVO 4G General] stangdriverdoug:
Get the shift
[EVO 4G General] OneStepAhead:
i know 3.8 doesn't sound much smaller, but when you see them side by side the difference is significant. if I was buying a phone now is go with the 4.3” HTC Thunderbolt coming out in a few days on Verizon.
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
epic... is good.

but there are things that just add up.. to point me away from the epic.

these things have been discussed many times.

I just want to point out 1 thing.... the backing of HTC products in XDA and other forums by Devs. the choices !!!!!!

that is top of my list for any phone.
[EVO 4G General] mykenyc:
Check out this review of the evo shift:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZET2gMKAH2U&feature=youtube_gdata_player

As you can see from side by side pictures the screen is incredible small against the EVO generation 1. I would agree with the others, wait for CES, i'm sure sprint have a EVO 2 around the corner, after using a 4.3 inch screen i don't want to go down to smaller, just my opinion. To me the shift might be a little bit better for gaming, albeit it's not a HUGE step up. If it had the hummingbird cpu i would say get it, but even now dual cpus moving in, so just try to be patient, because in the long run you will regret it, especially if you're on contract.

[edit] http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/04/sprint-trots-out-htc-evo-shift-4g-and-new-3g-4g-mifi-from-nova/ - And it has no FFC sorry to bust your bubbles lol.
[EVO 4G General] kenvan19:
Thanks for the links man, my wife has been smitten with the Evo Shift since I originally found leaked pics of it and she'll be excited to see a video of it being used. I've been trying to get her to wait to see what else comes out or to perhaps get a regular Evo but she is convinced she needs a keyboard (I felt the same way but now that I use Swype 99 times out of 100 I wish I had gotten an Evo and not an Epic but such is life). Anyways, I'm looking forward to reading the Evo Shift board and hope some of the veterans of the Evo board help out over there (assuming the similar form factor extends to the software architecture...Hey, I've got an epic and none of the related phones offer any software relatability lol)
[EVO 4G General] Dan330:
funny how i have seen 3 screen sizes for this phone..

3.6

3.7

3.8
[EVO 4G General] jmt3z4:
I got the evo about a month ago and I was thinking about switching with sprints 30day return service to the shift, but I still believe the original evo is better than the shift. The processor speed on the shift is a little faster than the evo, but the front facing camera and 8mp camera, stock 8g sd card, and the screen clarity and size win me over more so than the shift. Look at wirefly.com's review on both of the phones on youtube. It goes through to quadrant standard test for each and examines each pretty closely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxI8vG6wT8g
[Fascinate General] Neuman.Tim:
So I've noticed when I try to do navigation in dl09 maps/nav says searching for gps but my gps icon never shows up in the notification bar.

Since dl09 it took longer to lock onto gps but today it just isn't doing it at all. Any ideas guys?

Edit: I reboot and it locked on no problem and within 5 seconds..wtf

SCH-I500 - DL09/Deodexed/StupidFast 1150lv/Darkstar
[Fascinate General] danwanna:
I've had the same issue with DJ05. A reboot always fixes it.
[Fascinate General] mexiken:
I haven't had any problems with GPS yet. Works best on DL09, its the most consistent anyway.
[Fascinate General] Jaybap:
I've got the same issue my GPS will stop working after a while and then when I reboot it works flawlessly. It is very annoying.
[Fascinate General] slvrevoix:
Same except mine wont always be fixed with a reboot. Just tried it, locked in 6 seconds. But it wont last. Sigh....
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholasbgr:
So, anyone got a working one for data and GPS? I have Power Control Plus but it's a no go.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knytphal:
Doesn't the default Power Bar widget have toggles for data and GPS?

Barring that, check out Widgetsoid, it has an abundance of toggles you can add.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ViLANDER:
SwitchPro Widget.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dinan:
Has the bluetooth button and GPS button been fixed for switchpro?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholasbgr:
It does have GPS (the data one is only for wifi) and I'm using it but since I bought power control plus I'd like to keep using its features. To be honest, the only one I really miss is the data(3g) toggle.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan562:
try widgetsoid. everything seems to work for me.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] stroupified:
amazon has a great deal going on right now for all of you who have been wanting bigger battery.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d.html/...im&tag=fatwalletcom&linkCode=as1&a=B004E4BSVS
[Droid Incredible Accessories] Bryan949:
nice! might buy one of these. not sure if i want my sleek phone turning into an obese amoeba though. for 12 bucks shipped I can get another OEM battery. I think i might rather have two spare OEM batteries in my glovebox...
[Droid Incredible Accessories] NeverSummer2010:
Would definitely not face any juice problems with that beast in it but It would be hard for me to adjust to the bulk of the phone afterwords I'm afraid.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] froader:
Does anybody know how much thickness this will add to the phone?
[Droid Incredible Accessories] g00s3y:
"thats what she said"
[Droid Incredible Accessories] keith.mcintyre26:
You're forcing TWSS.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] nelms:
"It would be hard for me to adjust to the bulk"

i personally wouldve went with that one for the TWSS

haha
[Droid Incredible Accessories] SirBindy:
I bit. Thanks for the heads-up.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] froader:
lol! __10min
[Droid Incredible Accessories] ProTekk:
Just got one for myself. Been holding off for a long time telling myself to "just wait, maybe you'll find it cheaper." Thanks for the info!
[Droid Incredible Accessories] Cryous:
I would get it...but I also don't like the bulk it adds, more oem batteries for me lol

Sent from my HTC Incredible
[Droid Incredible Accessories] blkhwk5177:
3500mAh

ebay 8.00 free shipping
[Droid Incredible Accessories] ericlmccormick:
For all those wondering, I got one of these batteries. It is slightly larger then the HTC 2150 extended battery and slightly smaller then the Seidio 3500 battery. You can use the HTC extended cover but there will be a small gap around the sides. With the backing that comes with the battery, it makes the whole thing feel very big. The max thickness is really the same as the HTC extended case, but it is big all over instead of just over the battery.

In addition to the case being clunky, I really did not see any benefit to this battery. Even though it says 3500, it gets less life then the 2150. If you want a lot of life out of your phone, go with the 3500 battery from Seidio. It is expensive but you get what you pay for. No matter which of these three batteries you get, they are all going to add the same amount of thickness which is approximately doubling the size and weight of your phone.

If you want to increase the life of your phone and not increase the size, Seidio also makes a 1800 battery that is good. I am using the one I had from my Eris.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] tjrocks91:
i got this Acase 3500 mah battery a few weeks ago, it's great! bump charging vastly improves its battery life also. usually it lasts me about more than 24 hours
[Droid Incredible Accessories] SirBindy:
I got it late last week, and have been running it for a while. Battery life is a LITTLE better than the 1750 Sedio I had in it before. Not enough to justify the huge size, though. I can make it all day on my 1750, anyway.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] ProTekk:
Wow. Kind of disappointed after hearing all this that I bought it. Mine is supposed to come on the 22nd so I'll post back with results. Hopefully for my experience, I get better life out of it than stock.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] SirBindy:
I sent the Acase back and picked up two of the OEM 1800 evo batteries, they fit the dinc fine.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] m411b:
Do those OEM 1800 Evo batteries do much better than the OEM DINC battery? You can get 2 of the Evo 1800 batteries for $40 on Amazon.

Sent from my HTC Incredible
[Droid Incredible Accessories] SirBindy:
We'll find out. Mine will be here early next week.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] ProTekk:
My 3500 mAh Acase battery just came today. Finished charging it and bump charged it. Will post results.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] xxxdc5:
omg it looks huge ha
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] m2shakiba:
ii have been watching my new revived htc desire hd2(means hd2 which runs android) and i've tried a couple of nand builds and dozens of sd builds for the battery life

and here is the result

considering the fact that sd builds use sd cards to operate they use 2 times more battery than nand build

and now my battery lasts almost 2 days more in nand , while in sd builds i couldn't get a day through with it

but due to some rmnet connection problems most of people are experiencing high battery drain like 150ma

if u want to really compare the battery performance u have to put both builds on flight mod and the try them
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Bingoig11:
I'm experiencing high battery drain running AD from NAND.

With: GSM + Data connection (no wifi, no BT), 55mA when idle

In the same configuration running from SD...5-6mA when idle.

Tried to disable data connection when running from NAND, result is 54mA...

I re-calibrate the battery, but still high battery drain...

Don't know where to look for as the NAND configuration regarding power management is exactly the same as when running from SD(screen auto-adjust on like from SD, screen timeout set to 30s like from SD)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] m2shakiba:
could u give a little bit more information about your nand build and the radio

there is also a possibility that programs are struggling in the background

so you'd better try a clean build like nexus one
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mordon2008:
how to improve power consumption? in standby the phone has peaks 5ma to 50-60ma constantly! How can I do to improve the consumption?

i have MDJ FroYo Revolution v.2.2 [RMNET][kernel:MDJ S9.2 OC

Radio 2.14

I have read that some people do a certain procedure with battery and then obtain the optimization of consumption, you can say, or how to describe me?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Bingoig11:
Have a look on my sign ;)

And regarding builds, both NAND and SD builds I used were Desire HD so it should be at least the same.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Bingoig11:
I followed the procedure:

-Charge the phone until full while the phone is totally off (shut down)

-Boot while the phone is plugged

-Delete the file batterystats.bin

-Unplugged the phone and wait until it is fully empty

-Reboot the phone to completely empty it

-Charge the phone until it's full

Done.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ridikolous:
Im experienced high standby drain also. The only cure I found was to reboot the phone with the charger plugged in. If I just reboot it without plugging the charger, the battery drain stays about 50mA
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] m2shakiba:
ok look there are only two factors in the world that can cause battery drain

connection problem that is usually due to unsuitable radio and build

and background cpu involvement in applications that is caused by some applications

and it can be handled by task killer applications

except these two problems what really can cause battery drain?:eek:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mordon2008:
I try and let you know, thanks!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] SonyGlamber:
In that final part:

-Charge the phone until it's full

Do I have to charge with phone off or on?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Archer:
Am I missing something here? The title says "possible solution", but it's just a discussion about the fact that flight mode is the best way to compare SD and NAND consumption.

???
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] RedWave31:
Have you tried the Radio drain fix?

- Enable gps+BT+WIFI

- Have a lock on GPS, wait for wifi and BT to go on

- Disable GPS+wifi+bt

This usually removes the 60ma drain, even if the GPS is off or has never been on.

>Most builds "forgot" to shut it off on start, but without showing the icon.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] SonyGlamber:
I did it and worked, at least for a while, I'm just wondering how often I have to do that?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bearvius:
I somehow managed to break a resistor (or so it seems) on the motherboard of my TP2 :( Is it possible to get hold of a chart or so where the resistor values are provided?
[Windows Mobile Themes] FeLix_TheDaRk:
hello community, I am looking for these icons for Titanium skin I'm designing, but I can not find them, are the indicators of signal, wifi, bluetooth and data connection ... to tell you the most accurate I attached a picture of what I'm really looking

I hope you can help me friends, they would appreciate much

att.Felix_Th3DaRk
[Captivate Themes and Apps] suerspud9:
Hi,

just a question about this live wallpaper

do the colors and when they appear actually represent anything? or is it all just random?

thanks
[Captivate Themes and Apps] x986123:
It's Google's colors. Red, Blue, Green, and Yellow.
[Captivate Themes and Apps] suerspud9:
i know its googles colors, but is the live wallpaper just random or do the movements represent anything?

i dont know, from the description a look inside the neural network, i was thinking maybe like on color represented data usage, another gps usage or something?

or they represent other stuff running in background?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Blackbolt.ad:
Any one has a good battery widgets that show % and time left till it dies
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] OmniNut:
Try "Circle Battery Widget". Great look to it, and it's very customizable. It won't show you time left but it will lead you into your phone settings "Battery usage" and "Battery stats" when you tap the widget. Hope that helps.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Blackbolt.ad:
Were xan I find it in android market or black market
[Epic 4G General] justinglock40:
Are there any roms out there that are completely stock(Rooted) that support EXT4? Also are there any custom OC'd Kernels yet for stock 2.2.1. (Rooted).