yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Sorry, fluff may have been a wrong choice of words, I was implying that as this has been talked about before, and ignored by the powers that be, I saw it was going to end up an off topic post eventually, or at least until the elitist post Nazis (no offense bigjim) came in and said how we are cluttering their precious first page of posts, because as most have trouble with the AMAZING search function, a lot here have a lot of trouble with 'next page', you dont even have to pick which page, it takes you right to the next one!

Sorry, this is just getting really retarded around here, oh and BigJim,apologies, last comment on your beliefs, if off topic, but being an anarcho-punk, its hard not to at least ask if that is REALLY what you are talking about.
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
hehe *blush* I've tried to resort to reporting posts lately as opposed to trying to deal with problems on my own. Hope its not too much of a burden.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
THANK YOU whosdaman! that is a very simple way to deal with the clutter issue... didnt even realise what the report button was till i looked around for it. I agree that not replying, positive or negative is good, if its easier for you to redirect them (you could probably easily make a form letter, just sub in 'froyo', 'GPS', or 'search' and the rest is pretty much the same!)

So what of the ability to make sub forums??? to be able to have a section under Dev that is for general DEV RELATED questions would be cool... most people assume that General is for stock, non rooted phone discussion, and Development is for anything to do with development. I think I remember one called 'all things root'?? Idunno, but you get the idea. So what is the plausability of this?? not possible with site software? Too much work??? Just curious, I have asked in similar threads and I think you were too busy with other stuff... I tend to avoid PM especially if it is something someone else may be able to answer, as we all know, mods are busy, especially in this forum. Thanks for all your hard work!
[Epic 4G General] riceknight:
I certainly appreciate all the hard work Whosdaman has been doing with these forums, but unless he enjoys handling all this, wouldn't an extra mod or two be helpful?

My biggest thing is the FAQ post. Someone asks questions, you can point and say you should have read that first. Like I said before, the Wiki is great, but its a little cluttered and outdated as well as being hard to edit. Having one person willing to just moderate that one thread would be so helpful.

It bugs me when the whole community seems to be represented by the lazy people who just spam post. There are plenty of helpful, polite and very well informed that get lost among the clutter. In fact, they probably outnumber the newbies but don't feel the need to post nonsense. For every idiot that asks a dumb question, there are probably 10 that actually do research and figure it out for themselves.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Nope, I love you and ghost for reporting post. I always look forward to waking up and seeing 10 new PMs lol

I have no control over sub-forums. And right now it is only me working on the entire Epic forum. Like I said shep211 is gone atm.

svetius is in charge of the entire site, and I've talked to him about improvements that can be made. I wouldn't bother him too much or he'll just ignore ya. Most of the time the only things he is interested is fixing errors with the site itself. Right now I don't think we are in the area of reorganizing the entire site.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
ok, so adding a subforum is not possible? Or is it a decision to make the structure uniform across the whole site? Just thinking, because this forum is like maximum security, different from the rest... or so it would seem...
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
I'm not so sure making more areas, and thus more chances to be wrong, is a good way to combat posting in the wrong area.

If you have a rom question, ask it in the rom thread. All that would happen if there were subforums for things in development, and discussion of things in development is we'd have 37 threads about how "I just discovered ___ doesn't work in [rom]" instead of 50 posts about it in the rom thread.

(Not to mention you'd then be blurring the line of when it is or isn't ok to post in the DEV forum, where as now, if the person bothers to read, there's a pretty clear cut "If you aren't about to post about the thing you just developed, GTFO" rule.)
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
No, I understand that if it pertains to a specific ROM, ask in that thread, its usually one place you will not get flamed for having a question. My main thing is that it seems to work in other forums, If there were just a 'rooted general' section, it would declutter both the sacred development market, and ALSO keep the general section to more actual general stuff... like other forums. The Development section as it is should just have permission posting, so you have to submit a thread OP to a mod before posting, as theres TOTALLY new roms, cwms, and root methods how often??? ten threads a month to manage vs. 100 non- ROM threads to close, move, or flame, seems logical. Idunno if whosdaman can do that though.... just makes sense since its really being used as a market for free software, clarify that its not really a forum, but a market, and ask specific rom related questions in said ROMs thread... just ideas... because new people will NOT stop asking how to root in the Dev section, and having their own playpen that certain 'senior' members are not allowed to troll, then nobody gets hurt, and the new people will figure it out, or whosdaman will point them in the right direction.

ALSO, how about Devs making clear posts of where versions end and begin, kinda like the cyanogen thread, with "version 2.3.5.6.1/2 now up" so when you start a new rom say 10 versions in, you can look at say the last 10/100 pages for any issues you may encounter, etc...

But, probly not going to happen, so maybe if whosdaman can make a sticky for a while, or PM the usual bullies, that the mod and mod alone should deal with repeat questions, etc, we wont look like such a community of retentive... well you know.
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
If you were going to do it so it needed mod approval, it might be cool to even think about making each rom a subforum, then each release can have its own discussion, it's own stickied info, etc.

We're probably getting a bit carried away though.:D
[Epic 4G General] jeffyv2:
i found the link to the applicaton to apply but it says its off so what now?
[Epic 4G General] Bigjim1488:
I applaud your wiki user ability.

That's what I love about this great country, we can believe in what we want to believe in as long as we are civil about it. To be very honest about things I have been using this user name since I was in high school. I will admit back in my younger years I was pretty ignorant and close minded as most young people are. Times have definitely changed and so have I. I guess I should have probably stopped using it awhile ago but I never really paid much mind to it. To my old standards I would be a poor excuse for a white person seeing as my last three girlfriends have been hispanic lol. Anyway I am not going to feed into this anymore then this.

Sorry if my user name offends anyone. Didn't mean for it to mean anything of the sort when I created it here

Sent from my Epic while i should be working
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
Right, most of us dabble in white supremacy and worshiping Hitler as youngins. :confused::D
[Epic 4G General] watermoore:
Yeah I posted a suggestion for a "Start Here" Sticky which was basically exactky what your suggestion and while a ton of people liked the idea I sent a PM to our forum mod about a week ago (maybe less) asking him if I wrote the thread if he would sticky it. I have yet to hear any sort of acknowledgement or anything. Ill let you know if I hear something before any of you do.
[Epic 4G General] watermoore:
haha I got the joke but your right I already posted a thread on this haha about a week ago.
[Epic 4G General] deano0714:
Honestly I think if your new here do some research and download all the stuff you would need if you bricked your phone like print and the pit and the tar file... and learn how to use this software before you go and root your phone and flash roms then our forums wont be mostly "how to unbrick epic" and less flaming of noobs will happen.
[Epic 4G General] ghostrid3r:
RP is the only way to go when you wanna make a real statement that matters. :p
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
/agree so much
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
I understand being angry as a teen, was there myself, still pissed at 33 but I went the other direction politcially. No I didnt need to read a wiki, just confirming whether you were referring to the only thing I ever knew it meant, thought it might be some new leet crap kids were making up. I learned it from facing down boneheads long ago. Just hadnt seen it on the internet since I bothered with punk music forums. Anyways, glad that you can admit that it maybe wasnt the best choice in life, but it might be a step forward to drop the 1488, as that is a pretty clear, aggressive statement, its not any of that 'white pride not power' copout... thats prison-core. Besides, race is a social construct, and as we improve the DNA pool (mixing), it will fade away as some silly thing people cared about in the past. Anyways, last thing I wanted to say bout it, not trying to flame you, but it is an issue I have put my life on the line for a few times, so its not something I take lightly. And remember, you have that freedom until it steps on another persons rights, then it ends.

Cheers

Chris
[Epic 4G General] sauron0101:
Maybe Whosdaman could appoint a second moderator for this forum. It would certainly lessen the pressure on just one person.

The other point is that if people read this thread, they may begin to misuse the RP, which could overload the RP system altogether.
[Epic 4G General] nubecoder:
Sounds like a release forum to me...

Would be more clear to have a release sub-forum IMO.

My $0.02

=]
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
Little off-topic but I didn't need wiki to tell me what it is; that was for the person asking. I'm from Texas.
[Epic 4G General] riceknight:
Unfortunately, creating subforums doesn't appear likely to happen anytime in the near future as mods aren't in charge of that.

I feel a good FAQ and read before you post in this forum is the main priority.

I just wish we could enforce replies too rather than just the thread starters to keep down the clutter. This is especially true on ROM threads when someone comes asking for what Odin is and whats clockwork. I wish the Devs had full control over their own threads, but thats never gonna happen.
[Epic 4G General] Bigjim1488:
Off topic again, Texas rocks but strictly for gun law purposes :-p

Sent from my Epic while i should be working
[Wildfire General] unluckyone:
Hi there,

I've downloaded and flashed the latest ruu file (RUU_Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.22.405.1_Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10_release_160191_signed.exe) from shipped-roms.com.

Now my battery totaly discharges within 10 hours without any wifi or 3G usage and auto-sync is off.

When I switch to airplane mode it keeps 100% of its charge for 8 hours that is great. but whenever I turned off the airplane mode, my battery starts to drain and lose 10-15% of its charge for every hour. So I think there is a problem with radio, but it is the latest version(13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10)

I lost root access since I flashed the ruu. Also the older ruu files did not work when I tried to downgrade because of the new hboot I think.

I already tried the battery trick.(8 hour charge, turn it off and charge for 1 more hour, turn it on and charge for one more hour) and I flashed the ruu file when the battery was 100% charged.

So, please guys help me, what else should I do? :(
[Wildfire General] toma.sbk:
I experienced the same problem but with every roms / radio I tried.

I figure out that with another sim card my battery curiously work normally, 2 days or so. Very annoying.

And recently I found a substitute : I checked "use only 2G" in network options, now my battery can stand 2 days easily by normal use. (but I have edge instead of 3G network, but it's enough to get email and other basics usages)

I contacted HTC for this, they told me to send my phone for repair, but i'm scare they simply change it and give me one with last Froyo update witch i will not be able to root.
[Wildfire General] unluckyone:
Thanks toma.sbk, but I can't see the "use 2G only option". I've three options to select in the menu, WCDMA only,GSM only, WCDMA/GSM auto.

Did you mean, I should check the "GSM only" option? I tried that option but no thing has changed so far :(
[Wildfire General] antonio1475:
Yes, 2g is GSM

:)
[Wildfire General] toma.sbk:
I use openfire, so I have the "use only 2G" but you should try "GSM only" (but can you acces at least Edge in gsm only mode ?)

curious thing is that you seems to be on vodafone türkiye too.

did you tried other sim-card ? from vodafone, or from turkcell ?
[Wildfire General] unluckyone:
Yes my carrier is vodafone Türkiye and I've not tried any other carrier yet but everything was fine before the update.

So there seems to be a problem with the radio version, maybe the original one was optimized for Türkiye and the ones that we flashed into our phones are incompatible with Türkiye's gsm operators.
[Wildfire General] erhanakt:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=877243

Use this rom, don't use sense. ADW launcher is better ;)

I used my phone for 2 days without any charge ;)
[Wildfire General] kujonek:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=898410
[Wildfire General] unluckyone:
My problem is solved by using the GSM only option? but my 3g access has disabled.

toma.sbk I couldn't get what you told. Did you mean another sim-card from vodafone runs correctly?

So our sim-cards our faulty then? but everything was working fine with stock Eclair so there should be no problem with vodafone.
[Wildfire General] fireice7:
I can easily get 3 days on a stock rom with htc sense
[Wildfire General] unluckyone:
what is your baseband version?
[Wildfire General] toma.sbk:
Yes, with my friends simcard it worked fine. But not sure there is 3g.

And i use this phone in france with french simcard and 3g, it work normally too, no battery issues.

So i thought it was my simcard who had a problem and change it at vodafone, but still the problem is there.

And if i flash the official 2.1 ruu the problem still there.

I don't want to take the risk to send it to htc for repair, if they flash their 2.2 i will maybe not have the market.
[Wildfire General] erhanakt:
But ur in england. :) In Türkiye operating signals draining battery :)
[Wildfire General] unluckyone:
Maybe, but everything was working fine before the update.

Now it is fine if I change network mode to "GSM only".

Whenever I turned on the "WCDMA" (aka 3G) my phone is starting to heat and battery drains 10% perhour. So I can't use 3G for now :(

I'm pretty sure that the problem is about the radio version not the operators.
[Wildfire General] toma.sbk:
what is your radio ? mine is 13.45.55.24H_3.35.15.31

do you know/remember what was it when you buy the phone, the original one, if I found it, i'll flash it to try, so we will be sure.
[Wildfire General] unluckyone:
My radio version is 13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10.

Unfortunetely I don't remember the original radio version. I'm searching for it.
[Wildfire General] kevin2516:
In wild puzzle thread, at the bottom of the first post are all the radios.
[Wildfire General] LogicXLz':
Hahaha... For all the future "enthusiasts", just to be clear on this, THERE IS NO BATTERY TRICK!!! At least not in the way you describe it...

If anything, YOU ARE DESTROYING THE BATTERY THIS WAY!!! Making what is called a "memory effect".

Batterys do not function in that way... You can learn about charging batterys on many sites, but this has got nothing to do with Android, so I'm not gonna explain that here. But you can trust me, I've been in RC modelling for more than 20 years...

So your problem lies with the radio or something else...

But spare your battery from the "charging tricks" ;-)))
[Wildfire General] unluckyone:
I tried that trick because of that thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=712990
[Wildfire General] toma.sbk:
Yes, but I think I tried them all, I'll try again to be sure I didn't miss one.

But Maybe the phone in turkey is sell with a "custom" radio cause it is sell with a "custom" rom without the market.

could be good if the other people who use their phone in turkey help us here :

- where did you buy your phone ?

- what is your baseband version ?

- did you ever flash your rom ? make OTA update ?

- what is your connection (HSDPA ? Edge ? ...)

- and the most important : do you have any problem with your battery ? how long can you use it in normal use ?
[Wildfire General] unluckyone:
I took a look at my friends wildfire which has the shipped, unrooted Eclair and its radio version is 13.45.55.24_3.35.15.31 and he has no problems with 3G usage with any operator.
[Wildfire General] toma.sbk:
So it should not be a radio pb. Maybe hardware malfunction.

I guest i will sent it to htc and see. Hope they will not update it to froyo ota.
[Wildfire General] unluckyone:
Let me know the result if you send it to htc, then.
[Nexus S Android Development] 651stp:
im too nub to do all this but, thanks and i hope an easier way comes out soon xD or i'll just have to learn!
[Nexus S Android Development] chris6278:
No need to do this the protected apps are back again
[Nexus S Android Development] steveo94:
Will this work with Sholes/Motorola Droid?

When I try to run the scripts, It says:

Write: no space left on device. Failed to copy new build.prop from /sdcard/buildprop/build2.3.

I have 4.75gb on my sd and 137mb out of 262mb internal.

Thanks for your help!
[Nexus S Android Development] ogdobber:
it should work...are you rooted? did you grant gscript su? what rom are you running. is it a gingerbread theme? maybe you could attach your original build.prop for me to have a look.
[Nexus S Android Development] jlevy73:
I see you added in a couple of additions to your build.prop, almost forgot about those :)
[Nexus S Android Development] steveo94:
Thanks so much for the quick response! I am rooted and using the new CM7 B#48. I did grant su permissions. After you mentioned it, I even went into Superuser and verified it.

View attachment 489217
[Nexus S Android Development] ogdobber:
so I looked at your build.prop and the "fingerprint" is 2.2.1 so the problem is the script is written to switch 2.3.1 to 2.3. by doing this it will show all protected apps (however recently google did an update and the protected apps are showing) anyways to change your fingerprint the script will have to be re-written. this can be done easily...but what apps are not showing for you because you already have a froyo fingerprint?
[Nexus S Android Development] ogdobber:
are you talking about my 2.4?;)
[Nexus S Android Development] steveo94:
The most notable app that is missing is Locale. I'm also missing Shazam and Tunewiki. There are a couple of others but I can't remember them off the top of my head and I can't get in to Titanium Backup right now.

Overnight, Titanium Backup was performing a scheduled backup, and I some how lost root in the middle of the backup. It got about 27% done. I'm gonna wipe and install B#49 and see if that fixes my issues since the google update. I'll let you know how it turns out.

I should point out that CM7 RC 0.0 had all my apps. Every ROM I have tried to install since then has had this issue, except for the Froyo Roms. I do a full wipe every time I install a new ROM. From reading the boards, it doesn't appear that anyone else is having this issue.

ogdobber, Thank you so much for being so prompt and helpful! :)
[Nexus S Android Development] ogdobber:
can you give me a link to CM7 RC 0.0 ? then I can have a look at the build prop and build the script. Alternatively you could just swap out the build.prop (don't know if you know how to do it) The benefit of the script is to be able to switch back easily. But If you are not being notified with updates then just switching out the build.prop would be the way.

heres how.

extract CM7 RC 0.0 to a folder on your computer

there will be 3 folders open "system" and grab the Build.prop and place on your sd card

using root explorer long press and "move" it

navagate to /system and (mount r/w) upper right then paste

reboot and you will be all good
[Nexus S Android Development] steveo94:
I did the full wipe and it appears that my apps are still missing from the market. A similar situation has happened to me in the past, but I just flashed the market fix and everything was corrected.
[Nexus S Android Development] steveo94:
I tried this and ran into "not enough space" in root explorer.

I tried a full wipe and install of B#50 it didn't work. I immediately tried another wipe and install of B#50 and everything was magically fixed.

Thanks again for all your help! I learned something with this issue!:D
[Captivate General] apockalupsis:
i'm confused. for some reason I had assumed that this phone (my Rogers Captivate) had a front facing camera, even though it wasn't enabled at the moment. now I'm reading and it seems that it doesn't. i was also surprised to hear that it doesn't have a notification LED. i mean, WTF?

anyway, what particularly confuses me is that there are three little circles clearly visible behind the glass... just above the Samsung logo and to the left - one of them looks like the lens for a small camera, and the other two look like LEDs.

what are these, if not a camera? are all three just for the proximity sensor?
[Captivate General] ScottyNuttz:
Ambient light sensor and proximity sensor in no particular order.
[Captivate General] apockalupsis:
thanks!!

in conclusion:

it is stupid that this phone does not have an LED notification.

front facing camera, I really couldn't care less about.
[Captivate General] joeybear23:
I came from the blackberry world, and really missed the LED indicator at first, but now I actually prefer no LED. It does get annoying to have a blinking light on your phone all the time, so one starts to ignore it anyway thus it becomes useless.

You can use a 3rd party tool like BLN however, if you just need a little light.
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
BLN will turn the Seach, Back, Home, and Menu key on (and keep them on... or even blink) when you get a notification. So in essence we have one.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dameon45:
This has never happened before...so I dunno what to do. So I had an Xbox app I actually paid for because I was given a credit to the android market and since flashing the current gingerbread rom I cannot for the life of me locate it. Its not in my downloads in the market no can I locate it in the search for the market. Now I think I might have to enable certain permissions so my phone sees it in the market maybe. I'm lost here I never use titanium backup because I only have a few set apps I use that I know and this has just got me goin up a wall.

It does show up on my g1 running 1.6 though. Maybe the firmware isn't letting me get it.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tony2much60:
Go back to your previous rom, find the .apk in your file manager, send

It to yourself via Gmail. Then go to your updated rom, open Gmail and push install. That's what I do. Try it.