yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy Themes and Apps] sp8y:
Hi Inteks & thanks for your reply.

OK I've read part of that thread but I've ticked the option for SD card speedfix in Setvsel but do I need to do anything else as it doesn't change the read_ahead_kb value.

I've even tried the SD increase app as posted in the thread you've linked to but again this doesn't do anything to the kb value.

Am I missing something here?

Thanks :)
[Defy Themes and Apps] inteks:
how do you check it? on my defy it works. and it increase the readspeed of my sdcard from 16mb/s to 37mb/s...

btw some say 2048 is a good value some prefere 3072 so i decide to use 2560kb for now

open this file with rootexplorer as textfile>>>/sys/devices/virtual/bdi/179:0/read_ahead_kb
[Defy Themes and Apps] sp8y:
I haven't done any speed tests. I was just looking at the read_ahead_kb file in the sys folder. It just shows as 4kb - does that file not change then to show the new kb settings.

Oh i am using supermanager to view and it can't open the file - maybe that's why?

Sent from my MotoDefy.
[Defy Themes and Apps] Kemby13:
Hi everyone!

First of all, thank U man for this amazing app - it made me like my Defy even more :)

Been testing the app only for 2 days now, but everything seems stable with these clocks:

18@300

30@600

52@1000

Tryed to run Quadrant many times and got an average score of ~1300 (it went up by ~250 points when comparing to the default cpu speed),

played a HD clip (Avatar clip / *.mov file / 1280x720 / 190Mb / 01:15 long) and it wasn't smooth as i would want it,

but it was a lot better than playing on default. It felt like movie was playing a few fps faster :D. I did test Quadrant with 1100Mhz but didnt get much higher scores...
[Defy Themes and Apps] antony.ps:
Movies will play depending on the encode. Even 480p with high bitrates will lag on the phone. Reencode the mkv's to mp4 with vbv-max 2000. I use this script to reencode movies:

set video=%1
REM set video=%video:~1,-1% uncomment this on Windows XP
set audio=%video%.aac
set subs=%video%.ass
set avs=%video%.avs
set droid=%video%-defy.mp4
mkvextract tracks "%video%" 2:"%audio%" 3:"%subs%"
echo FFmpegSource2("%video%").textsub("%subs%").spline64resize(848,480) > "%avs%"
x264 --profile baseline --level 3 --preset slower --crf 18 --weightp 2 --vbv-bufsize 5000 --vbv-maxrate 2000 --output "%droid%" "%avs%"
mp4box -add "%audio%" "%droid%"
del %video%.ass %video%.aac %video%.ffindex %video%.avs
pause

Credits to Jacques from http://forum.animetracker.org. You will need avisynth, mp4box, x264, mkvtoolnix, ffmpegsource2 and vsfilter.
[Defy Themes and Apps] Kemby13:
Thx for the advice and the list of programs/codecs, there are quite a few of them :)

Anyway, i tryed to encode some of my mkv's with specialized video converters like USeeSoft Total Video Converter or Ultra Video Converter,

but without much success - i mean clips were poor quality at 720x480 or laggy at 1280x720... I will try out ur apps and report back.
[Defy Themes and Apps] bobbyphoenix:
As Inteks says: open this file with rootexplorer (Root Explorer (File Manager) from the market by Speed Software) as textfile>>>/sys/devices/virtual/bdi/179:0/read_ahead_kb When you get to "read_ahead_kb" it will show 4.00k, BUT you need to press and hold on the file until a menu pops up, then "View as text". Without the speedfix you will see a number of 128. With the fix you should see 2560. Much faster.
[Defy Themes and Apps] sp8y:
Thanks bobby. It was working i just couldn't open the file with supermanager to see it. I then used yaffs explorer to view and it has changed to 2560 so all good.

Cheers :)

Sent from my MotoDefy.
[Defy Themes and Apps] mick711:
Hello

Can tout upload laste apk please ?

I run cyanogene rom and dont use market.

Thanks

EDIT : sorry i install google apps for my calendar :o so i can connect to market and download apps .

Very good tools
[Defy Themes and Apps] sp8y:
Inteks,

Thanks for the latest update with the battery info - would you be able to give the battery % an icon in the status bar so it can be seen without having to pull down the bar - a circular one would look good and save having an extra app running as I currently have the motocharge circular battery app from the following thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1013835

Thanks :)
[Defy Themes and Apps] nichz:
Hi,

I've been playing around the Defy for a few weeks now and decided to OC it. I'm trying these settings :)

Just noticed that my initial score on default values was 1516 (which seems high enough), but now 1705 with these settings (running CM7 rom / 2.3)
[Defy Themes and Apps] Agge_:
Hi, and thanks for a great app! Been using out for a while with good effects on the battery life.

One question however.

Does the new feature of showing remaining battery% eat more battery from our dear devices, than if we would uncheck that option?

And I also agree that now when you incorporated this awesome feature, that you should show it the notification icon.
[Defy Themes and Apps] bobbyphoenix:
Agree here too, and also have an option to change from C to F.

Still awesome as usual.
[Defy Themes and Apps] bobbyphoenix:
OK silly question. I've been playing with the values so much I forgot what the default threshold is. Is it 86%? I looked through all the posts, but the only defaults mentioned are for the vesels.
[Defy Themes and Apps] sp8y:
Yes i'm sure it starts off at 86% on a fresh install bobby :)

Sent from my MotoDefy.
[Defy Themes and Apps] ccccccccewr533:
Hello inteks,

can you introduce an option to limit to vsel2 when batt temp is >= x °C? I was playing a game while charging the other day, and the heat from charging + the overclocked CPU put the battery up to 46°C :/
[Defy Themes and Apps] sp8y:
Inteks,

Just had a thought regarding the battery % display - would you be able to place it inside the "ginger" cpu speed icon - maybe would only need one icon then?
[Defy Themes and Apps] ustrucx:
Im on CM7 5.1 and i get 1800 on quadrant, my vsel conf is:

vsel 1 26@250

vsel 2 48@600

vsel 3 58@900

treshold 86%

Limit to vsel 1 while screen is off

set_uo treshold to 99% on battery <= 10%

and i get 1 day battery life with heavy use (internet radio, 3g, wifi, games, camcorder, gps tracking), 1.5 day with moderate use (emails, sms and calls).
[Defy Themes and Apps] ccccccccewr533:
There's an app on the market called SystemPanelLite which can read the AK8971 temperature sensor, which gives a more accurate temp reading than the batt temp. Maybe you could do the same, inteks? :)
[Defy Themes and Apps] mick711:
How it's possible 26/250 it's impossible to downclock more 300Mhz :confused:

With CM i can use my last setting in Eclair 2.34 JIT , 18/300 38/600 52/1000 with stock Froyo i can't use 18/300 just 20/300 .

Very good software Thanks .
[Defy Themes and Apps] hitanshu:
I tried 22/300, 32/600, 58/1100 and innumerable media process force closes. Let me now try Mick71's settings
[Defy Themes and Apps] binodnepal:
The CPU icon is off sometime even when checked in settings anybody having this issue. I am using cm7.
[Defy Themes and Apps] DaBaschdie:
milestone support

nice app so far!

does it work on motorola milestone (2.2, rooted) as well? thanks
[Defy Themes and Apps] Pararocker:
1000/50

600/35

300/25

86%

And battery lives longer then on stock settings.

But maybe I can go to lower voltage, I had not time to test it.
[Defy Themes and Apps] Dark_Plasma:
I use these settings and has been very stable so far

18/300

33/600

64/1200

86% threshold

1900-2000 on quadrant battery life is good and no problem with heat

Sent from my lightning fast defy running CM7.....
[Defy Themes and Apps] Nnn Noob:
:)

18/300Mhz

30/600Mhz

56/1100Mhz

Stable enough for me. (maybe 1 crash a week)

Applied @ boot

USA T-Mobile MB525

CyanogenMod 7.1.0 - Quarx

Android 2.3.4
[Defy Themes and Apps] Pelzflauscher:
Hey, im also using this app on Nordic 2.2.2. Runs great but im a bit afraid about too high temps. So I'm asking, what temps do you guys have @ 1 GHz?

And the stability Test on 300 MHz takes really long for one run, is it normal?

My settings:

300/16

600/28

1000/48

Atm stable =)
[Defy Themes and Apps] bobbyphoenix:
When I run mine at 1300@70 I usually only get as high as 112F and that's after playing games, it usually stays around 90F for normal use. I'm running it now at 1100@60 and it only goes about 95 to 98F for the high. Maybe 105 playing games for an hour. I never ran any stability test so I can't help you there. Never have issues with these settings.
[Defy Themes and Apps] terrydaia:
I have the same issue since I use cm7 beta6
[Defy Themes and Apps] binodnepal:
I also had same issue now I use the bootmenu oc.
[Defy Themes and Apps] rogier666:
300/20, 600/30, 1000/50 and my Defy passes the stress tests with flying colors. It also keeps on rocking in real world conditions.

_____

edit:

I pushed my VSels down in bits and pieces. The lowest I can go on my Defy is 300/14 600/28 1000/50.
[Defy Themes and Apps] lmmfs:
What is the minimum frequency that I can put??
[Defy Themes and Apps] lmmfs:
I'm using these values

22/300mhz

32/600mhz

52/1000mhz

is fast and is not heating up the battery is good.

*Google Translate sorry.
[Defy Themes and Apps] rogier666:
There's only one way to find out. Trial and error. Just run the stability tests (scroll all the way to the bottom of setvsel to find them), and stop pushing down the voltage when the tests fail.
[Defy Themes and Apps] azothterry:
It seem does not work on my milestone with cm 6.12 or cm 7 rc5

Force close...
[Defy Themes and Apps] cmvcarlos88:
Hi, thanks for this awesome app. Do you pretend to add vsel4 like in the new Gingerbread rom leaked??
[Defy Themes and Apps] yalouf:
Very nice app !

Thx a lot !

But i can't go higher than 1ghz, and my omap is stable at 1ghz@49vsel.

I'm running official Orange French Froyo 2.2.2

Thx for the support as well :)
[Defy Themes and Apps] bobbyphoenix:
What's the highest vsel you tried? I can run stable at 1300@70. You should easily be able to go over 1GHZ.
[Defy Themes and Apps] yalouf:
I made it work :) i tried1200@64 vsel and quadrant score 1700. The phone is so fast, and opera mobile 11 put any other browser to shame :)

I wanted to grab a Samsung galaxy SII but i don't think i need more power for the moment...all games fin smoothly as well.
[Defy Themes and Apps] danielzyy:
Usefull, thanks
[Defy Themes and Apps] nonsense91:
very useful indeed, but i only got 1500+ on quadrant standard with 1200mhz 64v

using uk 3.4.2-117
[Defy Themes and Apps] nonsense91:
quick question

how do I change the scaling_governor?
[Defy Themes and Apps] bobbyphoenix:
When the app is open you just slide the red button on the slider. It starts at 86% which is stock, but you can go up to 99% or down to 50%. Then just press "apply".
[Defy Themes and Apps] mn78jag:
My phone is also heating up to 39 c. Im also on nordic 2.2.2. 1000 mhz 53.
[Defy Themes and Apps] koltzu:
Tried OCing it to 1300mhz with 65v, reached the following quadrant benchmark:

I've also OCd it to 1200/60. Got 1910.

With the stock frequency [800mhz] and 48v [undervolted] I get a ~1600 quadrant score.

I'm using CM7 btw
[Defy Themes and Apps] nonsense91:
wow maybe because you are using cm7 w/c is already on gingerbread
[Defy Themes and Apps] koltzu:
I've updated to CM7 RC0 and.. well... I'll just leave this here.. [it's at 1.3GHz]

Using RC0, the Defy now gets around 1900 in quadrant at stock frequency
[Defy Themes and Apps] pleasebugmenot:
Cool app!

But please implement an option to restrict to slower speeds when the battery gets hot (above 42°C maybe?)

Also I found a bug: When changing the frequency downwards (like setting 1200 when it was 1300 before) it first applies the new vsel and THEN the new frequency. This causes the phone to crash, because the new vsel is enough for 1200, but not for 1300. Please make it so when newfreq < oldfreq, the frequency is changed first
[Defy Themes and Apps] morteza-25:
Thanks
[Defy Themes and Apps] iamnik:
Sorry, but what does the last update do? I can't figure it out.
[Defy Themes and Apps] Laserbait:
I see that the latest update includes an option for "vm.min_free_kbytes=4096". What does this do exactly?

And, I've been searching on this but can't find a layman's explanation as to what JIT is/does, and what it is used for.

If someone could help with these, I'd be grateful! :)
[Defy Themes and Apps] dew.man:
Can somebody elaborate on what the SDcard SpeedFix option is all about?
[Defy Themes and Apps] bobbyphoenix:
In simple terms it's an improvement for the read/write access to the SD card. By default the Defy is very slow at it, but this fix increases the speed so things are snappier. There is an in depth discussion about it some 20 pages or so back, but if you find your phone slow at accessing the gallery, or just the SD card in general, check the box to enable the fix, and see if it helps.
[Defy Themes and Apps] bobbyphoenix:
Just In Time compiling. In 2.1 and earlier this is not enable by default. It helps in the graphical area of the phone's capabilities (from how I understand it). It's on by default in FroYo (2.2). Some people find enabling it in 2.1 or earlier that the phone would crash, and become unstable, so use at your own risk, but in 2.2 with it on by default the phone is programmed to incorporate it, so there should be no issue. When I was on 2.1 and enabled it my phone ran better, and my benchmarking went way up. Also there is no need to manually enable it on 2.2, and I don't even think that option can be enabled/un-enabled on FroYo.
[Defy Themes and Apps] adida101:
Can anyone tell me what the up_threshold value actually does? I understand that decreasing improves performance and increasing improves performance but in terms of the actual CPU, its function is not very well explained in the app...
[Defy Themes and Apps] bobbyphoenix:
It's the % load the CPU reaches before going to the next speed. Say you have 300, 600, 800. 86% threshold. It starts at 300. The CPU needs to reach 86% capacity before bumping up to 600, and then again at 86% of 600 to go to 800. The higher % the longer it stays at a given speed, and vice versa.
[Defy Themes and Apps] dew.man:
any chance of a version that allows us to select a different governor (conservative for example)?
[Defy Themes and Apps] bobbyphoenix:
In simple terms it reduces memory starvation. Meaning adjusting it to a higher value will help prevent the phone from freezing, and/or FC.

A more extensive explanation:

This tunable controls the amount of free memory that Linux kernel keeps available (i.e. not used in any kernel caches). When vm.min_free_kbytes is set to its default value, on some configurations it is possible to encounter memory exhaustion symptoms when free memory should in fact be available. Setting vm.min_free_kbytes to a higher value (Linux sysctl utility could be used for this purpose), on the order of magnitude of 5-6% of the total amount of physical memory, should help to avoid such a situation.
[Defy Themes and Apps] Scotty83:
Hi,

I am new to this forum so please bare with my silly questions.

i bought moto defy few weeks back and quite happy with it untill now apart from two things,

one of the is battery life, today i came to this XDA forms and came to know abt this setsvel app, with out wasting time i downladed it but now the prob is this i dont know how to use it. as in screen shot of the app. in market and on the fist page of this thread i m not getting three boxes where i set frequencies.

it will be a great help if u gys can help me with it and let me fully enjoy my defy

I from India
[Defy Themes and Apps] dew.man:
Is your phone rooted? What kernel version are you running?
[Defy Themes and Apps] Scotty83:
kernal version is 2.6.32.9-gfd876be,fdc376@zch68inxdroid12#1

i have not rooted the phone, i reset it to factory default after android update 2.2.2
[Defy Themes and Apps] bobbyphoenix:
That's why it's not working. This app only works on rooted phones. You can root very easily if you want. I did it with Super1Click. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=913709
[Defy Themes and Apps] Scotty83:
Thanks mate :), now its rooted and i can see all the six boxes to put the frequencies.

now i have to go thru this thread to see what i can do to get my battery life littile more longer
[Defy Themes and Apps] rogier666:
The short version: turn down the voltage bit by bit to the lowest numbers than work on your phone.

The long version: a lot of info from this thread and other sources collected here.
[Defy Themes and Apps] L-XPCoke:
Solve the reboot problem on me525?
[Defy Themes and Apps] L-XPCoke:
Still can't work on me525 T_T
[Defy Themes and Apps] eded333:
This dosnt work on the new spanish Froyo, someone knows any workarround?

PS:

My bad, it works, i didnt restart after using superoneclick ^^
[Defy Themes and Apps] Hugo32:
A few beginner questions:

Is there a limit to what I could type into the Vsel box:

For example could I enter VSel1 = 5000Mhz and instantly fry my cpu ?

2.) What does sd card speed fix do ?
[Defy Themes and Apps] JvVuren:
Intresting to see the wide range of settings people are reporting. One would have thought that there would be a dominant setting that works best for most people. But apparently no.

What's more intereting is that most people fail to report actual, measured results of how much their settings have extended their battery milage.

Surely, playing with these settings is not a game. There should be a more important purpose behind it. Or perhaps it is just a game for some which defeats the purpose of this significant app.

If you do report your milage, please specify under what load it was measured.

Johannes van Vuren,

Cambridge, UK.
[Defy Themes and Apps] gustavo.rocha:
Hello guys, I'm trying to make this working on my Defy.

I'm using MotoGinger 2.3.4 (5th test) ROM.

If I set the bootloader (2nd init) overclock option do "disable" then my phone reboots when I open setvsel.

Otherwise, if I have the option set to "enable", with the values correctly set, then setvsel works fine.

So, which application do you guys think is controlling the overclock feature?
[Defy Themes and Apps] gustavo.rocha:
After rebooting the values are set to the ones on the bootloader...

Can you help me to get the application working?

Does someone had the same issue?
[Defy Themes and Apps] rogier666:
Of course nobody reports that.

Processor benchmarks are easy. Just run a benchmarking app and post the numbers.

There's no standard test for battery life. The call time tests published by CNet are hard to reproduce by people who buy a phone to use it as a phone instead of a dedicated test device. Testing standby time means that your phone really has to stay on standby during the test. For a sufficiently long standby test you need to leave your phone alone for at least overnight, but this is when most people recharge their batteries so that they can use their phone during the day.

And then there's the issue of network reception and battery life. You'd need to monitor network strength and correct the numbers for variations in network quality.

To cut a long story short: there's no simple, quick, reliable, easily accessible test to determine battery life in a way that can be compared between phones. We'll have to use gut feeling and guesstimates instead.

Here's my own very unscientific result:

- Motorola Defy (running Froyo)

- SetVsel 300/16, 600/28, 1000/52, threshold 86%

- Signal strength -70 to -85 dBm 15-18 asu

- GSM on, GPRS disconnected, network type UMTS

- Data disabled by access point renaming

- bluetooth and GPS off

In the 14 hours and 15 minutes since charging my battery went from 100% to 95%. The screen was off and I didn't use the phone for anything during those 14h15min.

If we extrapolate the numbers we get about 12 days of standby time. This is two days more than Motorola's own quoted standby time of 238 hours. The real gain is probably a lot more, because it's hard to believe that my phone would really get 238 hours of standby at default settings under real world conditions.

Since the processor runs at 300 MHz in standby, the increase must be due to switching from the standard 300/33 to my custom 300/16. Going from 33 to 16 reduces the voltage from 1.0125 to 0.8 V. Voltage vs. power consumption is quadratic, so my undervolted processor eats about 1.6 times less power. That doesn't mean the phone will run 1.6 times longer, because the radios are not on a diet.

Battery life improvement by undervolting is mainly determined by the VSel for the lowest CPU frequency, because phones typically spend most of their time in standby.

Now maybe you can post your own results? And do you have a simple, fast, reliable method to measure battery life that's independent of network strength and that does not involve making your phone unusable for hours or days?
[Defy Themes and Apps] Skychan3:
So far I've got SetVsel working.

I can easily hit 1100mhz with voltage at 52, though I've only done 10 minutes stability testing. So far I've gotten as low as 20v on 300mhz and 30v on 600mhz and they last 10 min with the stability test app. But I did freeze up once while running SpeedTest but I don't know which hz it was so i don't know which voltage is too low.

So I ran Quadrant (score of 1465) and it didn't crash, so it's looking like 52v on 1100mhz is pretty solid. Then I wanted to run Quadrant at 600mhz so I set vsel3 to 30v and 600mhz (same as vsel2) and it instantly froze my Motorola Defy. I just changed vsel2 to 500mhz and now I can apply vsel3 with 600mhz without freezing.

So I'm guessing there is either a problem in the OS that doesn't want two profiles with same hz, or it could be a bug in SetVsel. Or SetVsel shouldn't allow two with the same hz.

Quadrant didn't crash with 600mhz@36v but it did at 30v. Does anyone know of a more intense android stability tester? When I OC computers, Prime95 usually produces errors in under 20 minutes and if my voltage is way too low for the hz I'm at then it will fail within a couple minutes.

Thanks for the awesome app!
[Defy Themes and Apps] dumrul:
My settings for cm7 are 16/200 26/400 36/600 it works good and its stable for me

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[Defy Themes and Apps] d2000269:
and how is your battery now?
[Defy Themes and Apps] dumrul:
My Battery life is awesome with 1000 MHz is to much and is sucking the battery fast this settings are enough and it working normal no fc or other fails

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[Defy Themes and Apps] Kenjo36:
What is the best setting for performance?! course without having overheating problems etc. ..
[Defy Themes and Apps] rogier666:
There is no one size fits all answer to your question. All phones are different.

The only way to find out what works for your phone is by trial and error, one frequency at the time. Change the settings in small steps. If everything works, change it in small steps again until your phone crashes. Then go back to the last stable setting. Repeat for the other frequencies.
[Defy Themes and Apps] Motodefyuser:
What's best performance on Motorola Defy stock 2.2.2 nordic using SetVsel if I want to 1Ghz maxium? Full stability and not too battery heating.
[Defy Themes and Apps] arjcba:
My original values were:

300@33

600@48

800@58

max registered temperature: 48.7°c

In normal use (I'm quite a heavy user) by the end of the day i still had 30% of my battery

now i use a stable:

300@15

600@30

1000@43

threshold 86%

max registered temperature: 38.7°c

In normal use it only consumes 20~25%! I'm still impressed how low battery consummation is!

I don't use SetVsel options, I prefer SetCPU profile options
[Defy Themes and Apps] crz6662:
Still can't find the paid/donate version, through the app or on Market. Want to donate and get rid of the pop up message.......
[Defy Themes and Apps] bobbyphoenix:
Not sure how you are looking it up, but don't use "setvsel" as a look up word. It's under "inteks unlockkey". https://market.android.com/details?id=com.SetVsel2.Inteks.org&feature=search_result
[Defy Themes and Apps] ruy_vilela:
Me to...:D