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[myTouch 4G General] NICEGYPT:
hey guys,

i was browsing for almost 2 weeks to know if mytouch 4g is good or not, i had a nexus one and i sold it today to get mytouch 4g or nexus s, i read a lot of comment about nexus s make me go away from it and i read a lot of comment make me love the mytouch 4g, then today after i sold my nexus one i saw this topic

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=894953

i saw a lot of ppl said the mytouch have a fuzzy screen and bad battery life :confused: i don't know what to do now please i need some advice, i really don't like to open a new topic because like i said almost 2 weeks browsing and i sold my nexus already to get my touch, some advice please go for mytouch 4g or nexus s .

thanks
[myTouch 4G General] xiton:
All devices have positive and negative points, but it's up to you to weigh them and decide what works best for you.

If you've been browsing for two weeks, then you should know the differences in the screen types and what to look for as well as what to either accept or avoid. Battery life varies depending on use and settings applied, especially for the modders and tweakers that exist in these forums.

Since you are in the Glacier section, I doubt there will be anyone who recommends that you get a Nexus S. In fact, if you read the Nexus S forum, there will probably be the same type of complaints that you find here as well as every other device section. No device is perfect, but to many of us the MT4G is the best of what is currently available on the market.

You will end up in this same predicament no matter which phone you get in the months ahead when yet new phones are released, so choose what ends up making you the happiest for now.
[myTouch 4G General] NICEGYPT:
Thanks dude, ur comment is perfect, I always say there no phone will come to us complete, the companies can't do this and if they do this mean they will close, the only thing I am trying to do to improve my phone and get something higher and stay with it for at least 2 years or so, wating for new baby and want to stope spending on crap, that's why I decided to change and sold my nexus.

Thanks again
[myTouch 4G General] Jmayes1786:
Man I had the g2 there is no way I would trade for the g2 no way
[myTouch 4G General] mackster248:
Honestly I think it's almost a toss up between the NS or MT4G. I have the MT4G and I am absolutely in love with it. Build quality is awesome and has everything you could want. Even camera quality was better than expected. And now that there's more devlopers jumping on this phone then the sky is the limit for this.

BUT, I am very intruged with the Nexus S. I love the SuperAmoled screen on it and I know everyone bags on Samsung phones being made out of plastic, that's what I love about it. Plastic phone = really lightweight. I don't care if it's plastic or metal like the MT4G because I put a case on any phone I get anyways. The MT4G with my little plastic case can be a tad bit heavier than the NS so that's totally up to you if you want a lighter phone or a heavier feel. Right now there is no 720p HD video capture on the NS which to me is mind boggling. I'm sure hackers will find a way around that though. One thing also is that it has no dedicated camera button on the side like the MT4G. For me I love to have a dedicated camera button. Also there's no expandable micro SD card slot in the NS, so take that into consideration as well.

So overall I would give the MT4G the edge, especially that it's 4G capable unlike the Nexus S and also has an optical track pad and most importantly has about 250 more mb's of RAM than the Nexus S. But honestly, you can't go wrong with either. Just play with each of them for like 10 minutes and I'm sure you can make your decision after then.

Hope this helps! :D
[myTouch 4G General] tweak89:
Biggest strike against the Nexus S is Samsung. I came over from a Vibrant and will NEVER purchase another phone made by Samsung. Average hardware (build quality and feel) with HORRIBLE software support. Now, with the Nexus S being a Google experience phone it takes the Samsung software support out of the equation, but it's still not a leap forward by any means (read the reviews).

I will miss the SuperAmoled display, but nothing else.
[myTouch 4G General] NICEGYPT:
Thanks dude, i tried both of them the feeling is so different, i feel mytouch is so hard device specially made by HTC, my wife had a vibrant and it was soooo slow and i couldn't do nothing to make it fast specially she don't like root or stuff like that so i sold it for her and get her a G2, my feeling go to mytouch i can't go to plastic phone after my nexus i always say samsung just screen, so i feel i will go with mytouch
[myTouch 4G General] NICEGYPT:
same feeling like u dude :) 1+
[myTouch 4G General] greenstuffs:
Get the MT4, the 2nd gen snapdragon makes web scrolling so smooth that once the phone oced to 1.4 you almost feel like iOS.

The cpu in the vibrant or ns on the other hand is a piece of ****, it'll have the best gpu but that cpu makes web scrolling feel like crap. Choppy at best and slideshow in most cases.

Look at the video after 5:00 mark i think, is a joke and i don't have the patience to wait for the development to pick up because AT THIS POINT IN TIME, anything coming out will be better than the NS so in summary if you have almost $600 to burn then yeah go ahead if you value your money then get the MT for cheap and upgrade later on to a better phone.
[myTouch 4G General] mingkee:
If you don't mind the branding, MT4 is better than nexus one in many ways.

1. more storage for applications (the most important)

2. wifi calling (it's useless if you don't use T-Mobile)

3. a bit larger screen, but you may encounter quality issue

4. physical buttons (it's also user's preference)

5. 720p video recording

6. secondary cam

You want nexus one if:

1. you have grandfathered internet (t-zones, tmoweb, and total internet)

2. you want minimal branding

3. AMOLED screen

4. fastest possible software update
[myTouch 4G General] QUEDRO:
Agree whith ^ message

It's way worth it to get a cheap my4g and mod it, then upgrade when smth better comes up.

I loove the samoled, but won't give up on 4G for that.
[myTouch 4G General] NICEGYPT:
Thanks guys, my point for right now to get a device to stay with me for a little bit i really don't care about gaming and stuff so i am not waiting for Tegra 2, i will go to tmobile store and get the phone from there so if i see this issue in the screen i will return it and get another one till i get good one
[myTouch 4G General] speoples20:
I had the Vibrant and I have to say the hardware is awesome. But damn Samsung ruined it with their software. IMHO the MT4G is one of the best if not the best phone on the market right now. It has so much going for it; 4G, FFC, almost double the OC'd speed and CM support.
[myTouch 4G General] NICEGYPT:
I am going with mt4g, I have a feeling this phone is awesome, thanks guys for all this advices
[myTouch 4G General] edgarzin:
what fcc means? thanks:p
[myTouch 4G General] nohcho:
You mean FFC = front facing camera
[myTouch 4G General] gejenn:
Had the MT4G for 3 days now and im really impressed.Ive been a winmo user all this time and had the chance to use android on my HD2.i was blown away on how android runs.that made me buy a Nexus One,but the ram was small for me to install apps so had to trade it luckily someone wanted my N1 for his Vibrant.we traded straight up and after a couple of days got tired of the Vibrant.Samsung doesnt really get a lot of support compare to HTC.sold the Vibrant and got the MT4G on an upgrade.

Sent from my HTC Glacier
[myTouch 4G General] osugsxr:
pretty much same thing I've done, but alittle bit longer I guess.

Iphone 3gs unlocked traded for nexus one...straight up trade

nexus one traded for an iphone 4 32gb, straight up trade

iphone 4 32gb trade for iphone 4 16gb plus $200

iphone 4 16gb sold $500

purchased vibrant for $160.....unlocked it and rooted LOVE it....selling today for $280..... purchased mytouch 4g brand new never opened for $ 275. It has the good screen !! Now trying to decided to if I should unlock it and use it on my current carrier or goto tmobile?

currently: 500 minutes, unlimited text/data....$55 w/ tax. Plus my wife is on this carrier and free minutes. Lot of them to her...

pros... priced for life can & no contract, free minutes to wife

cons: can't upgrade to new phone, have to buy out right. Typically using tmobile phones since 3g services work.

Tmobile.. 500 minutes, unlimited text data, $59.99 plus a 12% discount through employer.

Pros: 4g service, drop internet service at home save $30/month

cons: may have to watch my minutes
[myTouch 4G General] xdviper:
an iphone 4 32GB for a nexus one? a straight trade? Oh you got real lucky! :eek:
[myTouch 4G General] osugsxr:
yes I think I was lucky on that since the person I traded with was looking to use it on the same carrier. I need to quit playing with phones, its an addiction!!
[myTouch 4G General] gejenn:
lol you said it right! probably will just all be waiting for the next upcoming phones to play with.i have mine rooted and running iced glacier.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elamarkant:
When I was with G1, I used the command flash_image to flash the recovery or boot img. But in G2, I couldn't found the command...

Is there anyway to flash the image without fastboot or rom manager?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
flash_image isn't in the stock ROM, you're right.

Without fastboot or ROM manager I am not sure how you can do it. Maybe you can just "dd" the image to the partition but I have not seen this documented anywhere, so I highly recommend you do not try that.;

Try doing a search on flash_image. I think a few others might have tried downloading a binary for flash_image, I can't remember how they got on.

If you copy on the eng hboot then you will have the fastboot options to do it (assuming adb/fastboot is setup on your PC).
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joemm:
Heres a link on how to flash recovery without fastboot or rom manager, it uses terminal emulator, the instructions here are flashing CWM recovery 3.0 for gingerbread but the instructions can be used to flash any recovery IMG.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10089218&postcount=172

Credit to: ultma75
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
That won't work on a stock ROM though, it uses flash_image which isn't in the ROM and needs to be downloaded (as I said, I'm not 100% sure on if this definitely works on Vision).
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joemm:
Here we go again steviewevie ( the wanna-be forum Mod), please tell me where in the OP's post he says he's on a stock ROM?????????? Did I miss Something???????

He asked what are the commands to flash recovery without fastboot or rom manager, and thats all he asked or specified and thats what I gave him. Again you are assuming to know what they really need.

And the link I provided is from a HTC VISION thread, so it definitely works on Vision.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
Well, I'm making an assumption, yes. He's asking about flashing recovery without ROM Manager, so I am assuming he is on the stock ROM. Yes, that might be an incorrect assumption.

I'm not sure what your problem is with me. All I did was point out that wouldn't work on a stock ROM (which is true), you make it sound like I posted up a personal attack on you.

Yes, whenever *anyone* posts anything up quite often you need to ask questions and/or make assumptions about what they're doing. It's not the end of the world.

Yes, that's an HTC Vision thread but it's also a thread about CM. If he's on CM then he may well have the command.

Also bear in mind that others may read the thread who are on stock ROMs. I was simply pointing out that flash_image is not in the stock ROM.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
To the OP - you can get flash_image from http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Flash_image

But if I was you I would search on "flash_image" in the Vision forums to see what others have found.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joemm:
Its no personal attack on me, but all I seem to see you do is go around posting and make assumptions and trying to play froum mod all the time, "Thats wrong", "you posted in the worng thread any way", "your info is outdated" and on and on and on. People are allowed to post what they think will help. Not everyone shares you point of view on things. I would hope that you would give people credit on there intelligence level and know what they are asking? I dont claim to know everything but I do read the threads A LOT, so if you are giving a warning to the noob about your assumptions then please do and make it clear, but do not say things are wrong or wont work when your are assuming things. Thats it. Oh yeah Happy New Year. :D
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
Well, thanks for your opinion on my posts. I think perhaps you need to look at the vast majority of my posts, not one or two.

But anyway, I did already post about flash_image not being in a stock ROM, and since the OP couldn't find the command flash_image in his ROM, then I think it's not a totally unfair assumption to make that he's on a stock ROM. But if the assumption is wrong that's fine, no need to get all personal about it.

Happy New Year to you too :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joemm:
You are right about looking at the vast majority of your post, you help a lot of people around the thread. Im not implying you don't.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KiNG OMaR:
Yay group hug? :p
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blackknightavalon:
Open Terminal Emulator and type in the following (without the # or $):

If that doesn't work, you'll need the Fastboot binary for your computer.

Sent from a Western Union telegram.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joemm:
Lol
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
*hugs* :D

(10 chars)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elamarkant:
thx~

It seems that the new CM hasn't come along with the binary flash_image...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raitchison:
Actually it does, at least if we are talking about 6.1.1 stable. I know because that's how I got the binary. You can download the CM update zip, extract the files and flash_image is in there (in /system/bin).

I haven't actually tried to use the flash_image extracted from the CM zip because by the time I figured it out I had already given up and used ROM Manager to flash the recovery, but I suspect it will work.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elamarkant:
Actually I want to flash the boot.img without pc...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joemm:
Well in your OP you asked about recovery also, boot image and recovery two diffrent things.. so if all you wanted was the boot image you should have been more specific and left recovery out of your question.
[Captivate General] avs420:
Just saying a lot of people leave them out and I won't flash to something that looks like a warez keygen

People REALLY need to post screen shots of their ROM instead of a blind flash "What will it look like?!"
[Captivate General] DarrellRaines:
Your loss.
[Captivate General] iJemuel:
I agree with you. Some have screenshots and some don't. Screenshots and Videos would be a very nice addition.
[Captivate General] derek4484:
Ditto. Its too much hassle to restore everything after a flash to flash a ROM and not have any clue what its going to look like. Screenshots at a minimum are necessary. Videos would be great!
[Captivate General] DarrellRaines:
The way I see it is this, no one is forcing you to flash a rom onto your phone that the rom makers more or less.made for themselves and.decided to share with.the rest of us.

The devs of these roms are not here to serve you and make your life happy. They share their work as they see fit because they like to make their experience on their phones better.

Maybe you guys should go ahead and make your own rom and do things your way than to expect people to bend over backwards for you.

Of course that's just how I see it and your opinion may vary, but if I were you guys I would be satisfied that people smarter than us are taking time away from their lives to provide us with something that our service providers should have done ages ago.
[Captivate General] Krad:
Screenshots are pointless...

You shouldn't be flashing for looks. Your flashing for speed, kernel, modem.

Most of these rims are based on two or three leaked rims for the vibrant or 9000. They are all practically the same... and most link to theme addons with screenshots.

There ahouldnt be pics unless it is something so orginal from other roms and cooks.
[Captivate General] arabcamel:
you should be able to go on youtube and find someone with a video of using a custom ROM on their phone
[Captivate General] avs420:
It's JUST A SCREENSHOT. It's not like I'm asking for the world. Takes 5 minutes or less to drocap a few shots of what the changes are.

I'm not asking them to bendover backwards, I'm asking for 5 more minutes of their time. Cooking is hard, making screen shots is NOT
[Captivate General] flashman2002:
So let them cook while you flash the rom and take screen shots for everyone to see.
[Captivate General] papilliond:
I don't think devs do not supply screenshots because they're not capable or don't want to. Most devs create ROMS for performance improvements not necessarily asthetics. I think if you want to customize your phone's apperance there are many ways to do it without having to flash a different ROM.
[Captivate General] DarrellRaines:
It takes me about 5 minutes to.flash some of newer roms. Install and see what it looks like. If you don't like it, restore.
[Captivate General] supaphreek:
It shouldnt be a requirement.... These people are working hard to give you a good rom so they dont really need to upload screenshots for you :S.

its nice if they do but its just more work for them :S. Theyve done enough.
[Captivate General] nybmx:
I used to feel the same way but the fact is all the real work is under the hood. Anything that is changed graphically can be modified by the end user. For instance no matter what rom I run I use the same layout with Launcherpro. So right off the bat every rom looks near the same. Afterward I flash custom dark themes if needed. You would never be able to tell what rom I'm running or if I've changed it recently based on my UI because I keep them exactly the same.

So in my case it's not a deal breaker if devs don't post screens but I understand why you may want them.
[Captivate General] Krad:
well said and totally agree
[Captivate General] sold1erjjt:
I understand how its mostly supposed to be about the improvements "under the hood." But in some circumstance there are some neat features that can only be interpreted by seeing it. Some people can't just flash in 5 minutes because they have to back up, restore, and get everything nice. Im not saying it has to be necessary, but it should be encouraged. Screenshots could be a very helpful tool, for future "ROM flashers"
[Captivate General] flashman2002:
Well once people realize that nandroid for our phones is crap, restoring is the only major thing we must do, and that can be done after you see what the Rom looks like. But this is just my opinion. :)
[Captivate General] diablo009:
+1

When u flash a rom with no screenshots, please upload them for people who may want to see them before trying. But well, some devs post and some don't.

In some cases, they don't use any specific launchers. In these cases the UI is very much like stock. The underlying differences like in kernel are not obvious in screenshots.
[Captivate General] SlappyMcGee:
Why post a screen shot of a ROM when you can have 2 people with the same ROM loaded but Person A has a differnet look and layout in the end then person B? These ROMS are not about looks. IMO the DEVS do awesome work and I thank them for the time they put in and the work they do.

Edit: It might only take 5 mins to take a screen shot but that is on top of how ever long it took to build and test the ROM before release.
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
It's people like you that make people not want to release anything they've made.

Myself included.
[Captivate General] pr0nman:
I agree with the original poster, I do want to see what battery indicator, what stock homescreen layout and what color scheme is on a ROM at a minimum and I won't take a second look at a ROM with no screens. Sure the underlying reason is about performance but I also want to know that I won't have an hours worth of tweaking just to get the look acceptable because of some junk theme they decided to put in. Of course devs don't owe anyone any screenshots as their work is theirs to do with as they like, but if they really want it to get out there(as posting it with a link requesting donations indicates they probably do) then listening to the community will help them achieve that goal.
[Captivate General] vunuts:
This is probably the dumbest thread ever, besides the 782 threads about "I got a text from at&t, is it froyo?". If you want to know what things are, find out yourself.... Or perhaps read what is included in the ROM. If you see that it has ADW or LauncherPro, then you know what the home screen layout is going to look like. Oooooh but if it's themed, wow, that might be a nailbiter and might make you have to think... If it says "blue" or "dark" or "red" or "gingerbread", you have to wonder if it just might be one of those colors. If you have trouble deciphering what the colors in the theme may be, I suggest you use google, or possibly ask a kindergartner. Or how bout this novel idea, flash it and find out. If that doesn't work, reflash back to what you had. Or an even more novel idea, check out the "post your home screens" thread <------ This thread is full of people that.....wait for it......wait for it.... Post their screens, and they usually list what ROM, launcher, widgets, and icons. So take a gander over there, or continue to post useless threads. Or you can even bother the devs and have a majority tell you the same: they do the hard part, all you have to do is DECIDE to try it. Nobody is making you flash a damn thing. So put on your big boy pants and do it yourself.
[Captivate General] Phoenix-Lead:
I guss I am lucky I posted screen shots. I wouldn't want you mad at me for not giving you another 5 mins of my life;)
[Captivate General] axis01:
You can change the theme of all the ROMs out there. What's the point in posting screenshots of something that each user can infinitely change. What DG, Adam, or any of the rest of the devs use for their theme may not be what you like. If you looked at DG's personal theme and didn't like it, but it ran super fast, stable, and had great battery life, would you NOT flash his ROM? No, you'd flash it and change the looks. All the themes in the application section have screenies.
[Captivate General] Archpope:
Why? I choose a ROM to add based on the features list. I am unconcerned about how they look because:

1. They all look the same

2. I modify mine so heavily it will look nothing like the screenshots after an hour anyway.

Themes need screenshots. ROMs really don't.

EDIT: I should have read the whole thread. A lot of you are saying the same thing. But really, you can't LOOK at my current ROM and see any difference between this and how my stock ROM looked, unless the only place you're looking is "About phone."