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[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] hugohabicht:
I also think that the Zune update from ~2 weeks ago will update the firmware - so that should be ok. But if I flash all 4 files (eboot, pda, csc, phone) included in the download, i will for sure downgrad the bootloader (eboot...). But according the some post you have to flash ALL files in the download...

So the last question is which firmware i should use. Would "I8700XXJK1 ## 2010 November CSC_Cetus_Europe_I8700BSEJK1" work for me (Locked to 3 Austria, German as language, ...)? It's not easy to understand with the little information provided at the downloads page...

Thanks a lot!
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] hugohabicht:
I've done it!

Hey there!

For anyone who is unconfident about the procedure I give a short summary of my experience with unbranding my Omnia 7 yesterday.

Facts:

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Phone: Samsung Omnia 7

SIM-Lock: 3 Austria

Branding: Logo @ Boot; 3G-Toggle removed

Updates: all installed; Windows Phone version 7392

Goal:

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Restore the 3G toggle

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After reading thousands of posts at xda-developers & pocketpc I decided to flash the firmware "I8700XXJK1 ##" with "CSC_Cetus_Europe_I8700XENJK1" from November 2010 (= pre NoDo; which is essential for the procedure).

It took like 4 minutes to flash all 4 files included in the download to my phone. It was rebooting and asking for the first time setup. The first thing I did was changing the language - luckily i found German in the list :)

My SIM-Card was accepted and so I immediately looked in the network settings, if the toggle was present. But also the downloaded firmware didn't have the toggle :(

I installed Chevron-Cert on my Phone and Chevron'd it. After that I used Tom'sXAPInstaller to install "SamsungTools" to my phone. Launching the tools on my phone I found an option to enable the 3G toggle :)

After a reboot the toggle was present! I installed all Updates via Zune and now again have a 7392-Phone with the toggle still present :)

So - good luck everyone. Procedure is very simple an straight forward - the hardest part is getting all neccessary infos but I hope my post helps someone
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] wiggy g32:
I have a german unlocked t-mobile phone with a UK tmobile sim in it and i cant get it to go into download mode i simply get the picture of the connect to a pc
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] ronalgps:
What is the different between the 2 ROM
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] skycamefalling:
I can't say if reception or speed of the connection has improved but I can say for sure that the speed for the data-intensive application (picture hub with folders from the cloud and marketplace) has improved. Maybe they implemented better buffering or compression but it sure is faster :)

And, of course, it's a ROM without branding so MMS is working and there are no T-Mobile-Favourites when pressing the "Search" button in the browser anymore :p
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] skycamefalling:
XEN is the European version that you would need.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] jazzjunkz:
Sounds like a worthwhile ROM to install aswel. :( - It's a shame that I can't get into Download Mode. Hoping some bright spark figures out why and how to get around this.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] jailbird21:
I also get a the picture of the connect to a pc but i have found out that wenn i connect and open Zune I get a Message (h**p://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7508/zunemessage.png) it says somthing like: Can't restore to the latest version, because there is no restore point on this computer.

I think firmware will also come over Zune and this is a way to restore if the flash failes over Zune.

Also I have tried to set the phone in the debug menu / micro USB test (*#7284#) to modem USB diag. settings. The phone schows also only a connet to pc picture but wenn i boot the phone and start the Downloader it shows ready.

(h**p://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8947/flashky.png) I have not tried to flash.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Wiirockt:
The XEN Version is for Germany...

and the BSE Version for USA usw ?

i will flashed my Omnia but i have not the orginal rom
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] gms0012:
so i updated my german t mobile branded omnia 7

for that i downloaded the rom (I8700 XEN I8700XENJK1) and the flash utility.

then i started the debug modus of the omnia

then i started the flash utility and selected the 4 files.

then i connected the omnia 7 to the pc and saw this in the flash utility

then i pressed START in the utility..

the update took roundabout 5 minutes.. (the omnia did make a restart end everything was finished)

all setting were gone.

i think the performance is a little bit better.. and the connectivity also...

i also posted this in my german blog http://dotlive.blog.de/2011/01/03/neue-firmware-omnia-10295995/
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] hawrai68:
Marketplace seems to be in French since update, even though changed region settings..:confused:
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] gms0012:
I have german market with german settings.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] root beer:
Going to update now but thought I would mention:-

I have a UK T-Mobile Omnia 7 and it enters download mode (orange triangle).
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] hawrai68:
oops, chose wrong firmware..:o
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] root beer:
Updated fine. Worth it alone to get rid of the tmobile search within internet explorer, now it defaults to the basic bing which I so much prefer to google.

Will play around and report back on 3g+ signal and wifi.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] montana:
Not Retail Device - Cant flash

Hi,

This might be an odd question, but if I cant find the solution here... :)

When I try to update my Omnia 7 with the WP Downloader I get the following error: "Your Device isnt RETAIL" the Downloader will not do anything....

Can anyone help me out here what to do to flash it?

I tried to flash the latest :I8700XENJK1
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] emigrating:
Since the Omnia 7 is exclusive to 3 in Sweden (at this point anyway) you'll have to get a 3-branded ROM to upgrade.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] philliphs:
I have Omnia 7 from Singapore. Which firmware should I use, XEN or BSE?
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
Interesting so some of the phones t-mobile give out do work in download mode, did you unlock yours before hand?
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] montana:
Oh ok, thanks!

But we havent had these issues with branded ROMs before at Xda, everythings been flashable :)
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] root beer:
I did not unlock the phone. It was totally retail, not even tried sideloading or the Samsung codes to access the menus.

From my very short time with the rom I have found my WiFi locks on straight away where as before it was very hit or miss at home. And sticks with 3g in house, no g signal yet where as before it would. Also marketplace much faster as reported.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] c010:
the downside of JK1 vs JJ6 is not able to switch between 2G and 3G
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
Could you do me a small favour?

I am pressing the volume up + camera + power until the phone restarts itself and then letting go of the power button when the omnia 7 logo appears but continuing to hold the camera and volume up until the picture changes.

Is this how you got yours into download mode?
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] skycamefalling:
That's how it's supposed to be. Just the T-Mobile branded ROM allow switching, for whatever reason.

It makes no sense to switch off 3G because the phone still goes online (with EDGE/GPRS) but you have very slow connection.

Today's smartphones, especially WP7 ones, are designed to be online around the clock with the fastest connection possible. Data flatrates are getting cheaper and cheaper so 2G's days are numbered :p
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] ronalgps:
look the first to u have to do is turn off the phone then vol up + camera +then power wait lil and your phone will pop in download mode
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
Tried that combination and still cannot get into download mode
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] root beer:
I just held the 3 buttons down and the triangle appears once it switches on. No need for the silly sequence on that Samsung firmware website.

I was worried when it said live was not available in my region as I use live to send messages to Xbox live friends but all I had to do was change region back to UK and it worked fine. Redownloaded the games I had purchased and everything else was there, contacts, diary, one note, skydrive etc. So glad of the cloud as it makes flashing a phone solo much easier.

After using it a Day for a short while I would say the WiFi is definitely improved as it always now locks on and web browsing is not stalling in certain rooms of my 6 bed house as it did before.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] jazzjunkz:
I suppose nobody around here has the 301k ohm 'jig' dongle for Samsung Galaxy S which was used mainly for bricked phones? Plugging that in got Download Mode working everytime on every device. I'm wondering if this would work for our Omnia's?

If not they're still available for definate in the US/Australia on eBay - not sure about the UK or the rest of Europe..However they ship Worldwide if anybody is thinking about trying. Video demonstrations are on YouTube showing how they work.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] lyriquidperfection:
Hi Jazzjunkz, great minds think alike! Ive already asked the same question in a few places here on XDA but so far heard nothing. I hope it does work but something tells me this would just be too easy!

Sent from my OMNIA7 using Board Express
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
If that works then if we can flash the roms with a generic one would that mean afterwards we can get into download mode?

Worth getting one of these?

http://proto-pic.co.uk/products/USB-MicroB-Plug-Breakout-Board.html
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] jazzjunkz:
Pah, that obviously means nobody has. I'm pretty sure it'd work..if not the exact same way, a very very similiar way with perhaps maybe the transistors adding to a different ohm value.

Who knows - possibly. But I wouldn't bet on it..anyway, if you had this little jig dongle thingy majiggy, it wouldn't matter too much. Shove it in and away you go. They can be homemade..I'll have to try and find the thread about doing so, but it's around on the Galaxy S forums..somewhere.

Failing that - buying one..But I'm doubting people are gonna do that at this moment in time when they haven't an idea if it's gonna work or not. Unless of course curiosity gets ahold of 'em!

EDIT: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=819551
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
It wont damage the phone I guess by trying this so I might just might give it a go if we do not make any progress by other means.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] jazzjunkz:
Nope, definitely no harm in trying. Yep. Get one of those boards and the resistors found in the link I've provided and get soldering! It's quite easy thinking about it..It's just getting your hands on all the stuff.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
vol down + camera + power gets me into format mode so looks like tmobile have definitely blocked that button sequence.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Hermander:
works like a charm!

Phone is more responsive everything loads faster

tomorrow i will check if the camera-bug is fixed

so far i am impressed, to bad samsung wasnt able to deliver this a first...
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
No fair some of us cannot even flash ours!
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] jazzjunkz:
Ditto. Though that doesn't explain why some T-mobile users get into Download Mode. :S
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] hounsell:
Just installed this ROM on my locked T-Mobile UK Omnia 7, no problem.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] istvan.farmosi:
T-Mobile HU working

Just installed on my Hungarian T-Mobile branded/locked Omnia 7 without any problems. Marketplace seems to benefit a lot, that's for sure.

Edit: I can finally turn off the shutter noise by setting volume to 0. It does not respect the vibrate toggle though.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] des163:
It is vol UP + camera + power. Not down.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] c010:
there is definitely significant difference connecting on 2G or 3G. Yes i understand the speed of 3G, but i prefer longer battery life over speed. I would say it depends on individual's usage. I am still able to get my exchange and google mail without any issue on 2G. I will switch on 3G manually only when i need to download or surf.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] lemonspeakers:
No. I have dell venue pro which has only been released in the US.

Will my question still pertain to this? Can it still work?
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] skycamefalling:
I fully understand this. It's just that your Smartphone is designed to make your communications easier. It's easier to just enable 3G all the time than switching it on or off whenever you're about to download a bunch of data.

Hell, for the first time in my life I have Bluetooth switched on permanently...I lose about half an hour of battery lifetime but have the benefit that my phone connects to the navigation/hands-free-talk device in my car automatically. I do not have to think about it or fiddle with the phone in my pocket -it simply works and I get my calls through the car speakers :)

Sorry, I went a bit off-topic I think. Here's a page I found for you: http://blog.famzah.net/2010/05/24/2g-gprs-vs-3g-umts-connection-battery-usage-on-mobile-phones/

My own experience showed that there is no (noticeable) difference in battery lifetime between 2G and 3G...the issue that burns the battery is when the 3G connection isn't stable and the phone is switching to 2G from time to time.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] PhilAd:
which advantages do I have with another Firmware on my Omnia7? I guess Microsoft is making updates for the OS?

I have an Omnia 7 (Telekom Deutschland branded, better known as T-Mobile Germany before) with 16GB. It won't fix anything like my market update problem? I cant update any app ... I always have to uninstall it and install it again ...

But I really love my battery life on the omnia 7 ... no smartphone i have ever had before has this incredible battery life ...
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] skycamefalling:
This firmware update is for the phone, not the software.

So everything that is related to the hardware and their drivers can be affected by a firmware upgrade (Radio reception, Data speeds, GPS signal strength, camera quality aso.)

The OS updates will come from Microsoft, so the OS itself will be completely the same after a firmware upgrade.

You can't update any app because you do not have full versions of the applications, I suppose.

Test-versions and Demo-versions cannot be updated.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] PhilAd:
ahh ... quite easy answer ... could be possible ... have to wait for the next update and check this :-)

so if i flash via odin i won't lose my data since it is not possible to backup sms, etc.? (with no re-partition)

as far as everything is very good on my phone (reception, 3g speed/wifi, gps) it won't change my camera software so that it will save my changed settings ... the camera app is not saving my settings when i switch anything like video recording resolution. after quitting the camera app and opening it again, the settings are on standard again.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] skycamefalling:
I don't know "odin", but if you flash your phone to another firmware it will be clean (so no SMS and no Apps anymore).

I have seen no changes in the camera application -the still aren't being saved. I guess that is for Microsoft to fix.

Only changes I've seen is the overall responsiveness of the OS (which was quite good before but has improved nonetheless) and the speed of data-intense applications (marketplace, photo hub).
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] PhilAd:
ok .... thanks for your help ... i will think about updating the firmware ... there is no apn/mms problem anymore as i have read and so it should be no problem now.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Loconinja:
I have successfully booted into "download mode", but it has remained on the "Do not turn off, it takes about 10 minutes" screen for over 20 minutes now. What do I do next?
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] skycamefalling:
You just read the WIKI on how to flash the ROM.

Then you open the WP7 Installer, mount the Images (4 files), make sure you have a COM-connection to the phone and press "start".
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Loconinja:
I have searched and cannot a guide for flashing WM7. Could you point me in the right direction?
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] skycamefalling:
You need a Windows-PC, your phone and the USB link cable.

Then you download the phone driver and the WP7 downloader from www.samfirmware.com

After that just follow the steps in the attached file.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] PhilAd:
oh ok ... u were right ... i need another flash tool and not odin ^^ sry :-) odin is a flashtool for the galaxy s ...

hum ... thought he wouldn't wipe data .. but if he wipes i would lose all my sms ... i guess i have to wait until there is backup software or solution ... or do you know any solution to backup sms?

will there be official firmware updates in the future provided by samsung or provider? there is no software for this?
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] c2s.vdg:
sucess!

Flashed my LOCKED Omnia 7 flawlessly with I8700XENJK1.

Used Volume UP + Camera Button + Power Button and download mode appeared.

Still haven't got much time to play with it, but seems a lot faster now.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] degsyh:
Any one tried a locked 3 Mobile?

Hi just wondering if anyone has tried to flash a locked 3 mobile Omnia 7. I can get into download mode with everything good to go - just a bit nervous about pressing Start!
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] amdx2:
bloody hell, wish i can flash my rom.. i can't get into download mode i brought my phone of the internet and no idea where its from.. either its from france or germany
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] PhilAd:
did flash this morning ... downloadmode works für Telekom Deutschland Branded 16GB Version of Omnia7 (known as T-Mobile Germany before) ... the telekom deutschland version had no changes except the start screen when booting the phone ... it has bing search etc. on stock ... with the new firmware the provider logo is gone ... but it seems to be as fast as before in the market ... cant mansion any speedups (but thats ok, it has been blazing fast already before :-)
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
There are quite a few of us with this issue and it seems to be very random with what phones have the issue, even some from the same provider work and don't work.

I have noticed if you just power on the phone and hold only the camera button you get to the same screen.

So they have definitely disabled volume up + camera combination :(
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] lyriquidperfection:
Unless its a faulty bootloader like the Galaxy S devices had in which case samsung released an update for that device.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
Interesting, what is your bootloader version? on mine it is 4.10.1.9
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] des163:
Mine is 4.11.0.3 . Flashed the ROM just fine.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
Can everyone who can or cannot flash their devices post their bootloader version so we can see if this issue is common to 4.10.1.9?
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] izov:
Mine is 4.10.1.9 and cannot go into download mode...
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
If anyone else can confirm their bootloader version for non working versions to see if lyriquidperfection was right about a possible faulty bootloader.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Dea-loC:
The same for me :(
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
Thanks for this guys looks like lyriquidperfection is spot on so far that this looks to be a faulty bootloader so now we need someone to fix it!
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] izov:
Any ideas on how to change the bootloader?
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
I am sure one of the many very talented developers here will be able to help with that.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] domineus:
guys

could this be samsung's wp7 update?
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
Which update is that? Or do you mean the diagnosis update which was recently placed onto the marketplace?
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] domineus:
the no do update
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] raajkay:
Cannot get into download mode with 4.10.1.9 bootloader
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
I think it is pretty unanimous then that everyone with an Omnia 7 with a bootloader of 4.10.1.9 is pretty much screwed unless Samsung and/or a fellow XDA'er can help us out.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Heathcliff74:
I have bootloader 4.10.1.9 and I can go into downloadmode with vol-up/cam/power. I have not tried flashing yet. I have unbranded Omnia7. Vol-down/cam/power goes to resetmode.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] lyriquidperfection:
Confirmed! As a victim of not being able to enter Download Mode, I have checked and my Bootloader Version is indeed 4.10.1.9 so it looks like some but not all of this version Bootloader is indeed the culprit!

Sent from my OMNIA7 using Board Express
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
Ahhh you are the lucky one then!!
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Leon_84:
Tanks of all!

Just flashed, all ok!
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] degsyh:
Bootloader 4.9.2.9 here. Can flash but haven't yet....
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
Many thanks for letting us know
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] degsyh:
an older one it seems than the "dodgy" 4.10 version, i wonder if anyone that has flashed to the new 4.11.0.3 can still boot into download mode??
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] root beer:
Mine was 4. 11. 0. 3 too so that might be the reason you can't flash.

Hope you can get your bootloader updated soon and it fixes your problem.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] des163:
So you are asking if

"The no do update is Samsungs WP7 update" ?
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Atonnis:
4.10.1.9 here on a T-Mobile UK - can only get options of Phone-PC connection screen or Format Phone screen.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] des163:
We haven't FLASHED to the newer bootloader. The newer bootloader (and the older, it seems) are able to enter download mode, and therefore able to flash the new ROM. The bootloader never changes (by updating the ROM, I mean). Right?

So to answer your question, I am still able to enter download mode after flashing. My bootloader version is 4.11.0.3 .
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] amdx2:
Mine is 4.10.1.9... therefore can't get into download mode.. what operater F SFR/ SRR
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] daleski75:
This may mean then we have to rely on other means to upgrade the bootloader as from what you are saying by flashing a ROM does not touch the bootloader at all.
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] degsyh:
no, it appears the bootloader does change. see this post - h t t p : / / bit.ly / gQEzq4

(sorry can't post links as I'm new), the guy started off at 4.9.2.9 and ended up at 4.11.0.3
[Omnia 7 Windows Phone 7 Development] des163:
Right. So the 4.9 can enter download mode and then flash. Bootloader is changed to 4.11 in the process and download mode is still accessible.

4.10 seems to be locked out of dl mode.

I didn't check mine before flashing, but I guess it was 4.9 .