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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] miharkula:
The build I'm using on a TMOUS Leo has 768.8 mb free for data portion so I assume a 512 mb version would have 256.8 meg left.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] scariola:
Okay, let me re-state, "how much free RAM is left after booting?

ROM is what you are referring to.

The T Mobile HD2 has a theoretical 568MB RAM(486MB RAM + 75MB Graphics, 1024MB ROM(Where android installs). I have plenty of ROM space, as do you.

I am wondering why it would take 300, or even 200MB of RAM just to run Android OS 2.2?

Once booted, I only have 230MB of RAM available(nowhere near the 486MB the phone has)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] justwonder:
According to Android System Info:

My TMOUS leo: RAM max:411MB Free:283MB

Nexus One: RAM max:402MB Free:268MB

They both run MIUI.

if you goto Tasks tab, you'll know what eat up your ram.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PeartFan40:
I've seen a few threads concerning the potential issues with oleophobic coating. I found this on the web, and thought it might help clarify the misconceptions about this technology. Hope this helps!!

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP1555249.html
[EVO 4G General] creyc:
Sometimes interpreting all the [tags] and t3Rmin0logy in the dev forum can be a bit of a headache for us non-dev types who are just looking for the latest and greatest ROMs and kernels to try out without necessarily compiling something from scratch.

So that's why I made this post. I'm really interested in trying out a Gingerbread 2.3 ROM but I'm not sure what the general consensus is on this without reading several hundred posts/replies.

Can anyone with insight summarize? :)
[EVO 4G General] bkrodgers:
Basically, you won't have a stable gingerbread release until:

- CM7 is declared stable (for AOSP roms)

- HTC releases a gingerbread ROM themselves (for Sense roms)

Neither of those appear to be about to happen in the immediate future. So for now, I don't think any of them are officially considered stable for daily use.
[EVO 4G General] corzo002:
Ive been using the ROM in this thread as my daily driver for a while now. Enjoy :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=877653
[EVO 4G General] Tiffany84:
Been running evervolv since the beginning and I use it as my daily. I absolutely love it. The only problem right now is the gps works great for some and off and on for others but the developer has added the app gps status to the newest build and the gps seems very stable now as a result. Also, as of right now the camcorder doesnt work but it is being worked on. Other than that u just have the other issues like u would with any other aosp rom. Which is no 4g and no hdmi. But if your wanting to try gb I highly recommend this rom. The developer is awesome and it's been updated almost nightly. Like I said, I've been using it everyday since it's been out and haven't regretted it one bit. Hope that helps.
[EVO 4G General] Tiffany84:
I would have to disagree with that. Like I just stated, I've been using evervolv as my daily and haven't thought twice about it. Besides gps being a little shaky and no video recording I would have to say it's been as stable as any other rom I've ran and I've ran almost all of them.
[EVO 4G General] dkdude36:
i'm running the cm7 rc0 right now and it is pretty sweet. i wont be using it as a daily driver because i love sense's widgets especially the task one. but if you like aosp roms then it is your dream.
[EVO 4G General] semperlux:
You don't need video recording or GPS? Or is that fixed now? I've been watching the thread (not lately though because of the holiday) and all that still needs work. I'd love to use this ROM as a daily driver but I need video rec. and GPS/Latitude/Sprint Family Locator are a must.
[EVO 4G General] phistyle:
then I wouldn't consider that "stable"..
[EVO 4G General] Tiffany84:
Well video and gps aren't really that important to me but actually gps is working fine for me on evervolv's latest release. So for what I need it to do it's extremely stable. Just depends on what your needs are.
[EVO 4G General] welshwarriorsf:
Shaky GPS + no video = GARBAGE. I don't think most people use the Evo just for phone calls. Myn's rom with the gingerbread keyboard has been more then enough to hold me over until he comes out with a 2.3 rom. CM is cool n all but no 4G or HDMI is wack. If you bought the evo to use all its features and not because it looks like an oversized iphone, just stick with Myn and try to be patient.

Sent from my Evo 4G running Warm TwoPointTwo using the XDA app
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
I'm so sorry I like aosp more than 4g. 4g only makes tethering faster our browser and stuff will still process at low kilobit rates
[EVO 4G General] davpel:
I've been using the GB rom posted by AndroidBall as a daily driver and have been very pleased. Camcorder FC and obviously no 4G (none in my area anyway) and no HDMI (no need), but otherwise rock solid and incredibly fast. The most impressive aspect of GB, or at least this rom, has been the battery life. As good as any rom I've ever tried and way better than any AOSP rom I've used previously. That alone is reason enough to stick with a somewhat incomplete version of GB for now.
[EVO 4G General] DraginMagik:
mmm....and patience just oozes from your post.

assuming someone is able to read the OP on a given thread, they should be able to identify what is working vs not working. so long as the 'not workings' do not impact that user then it's fine.

some folks don't live in 4G areas and others (like myself) live in a 4G area but haven't missed it that much. although a second radio would be handy so Trillian doesn't loose connection when i get a phone call. Other folks feel that 4G is either a requisite or their god-given-right (the last one usually points out the $10 fee as their landmark).

and i haven't gone out to buy that $30 cable so i can watch 720p movies on my 1080p TV. my home network is setup to handle that task.

some folks just plain don't like using Sense or prefer to support/use ASOP as much as possible. many folks have commented on the speed and fun-features of CM.

that being said, the CM7RC0 is stable for standard usage (ie: it doesn't randomly reboot or try to melt your sdcard or format your home computer and is no long likely to try to kill your kitten. it has not reached RC1, which kinda means it's not done cooking (so...keep an eye on the kitten). I would expect a RC1 in the not too distant future. i've been using this thread .... just make sure to read the OP for things working vs not working.

when CM7 is released it should come wimax and maybe the upgraded hdmi.

what i like about Lithid's thread is that he doesn't try to take responsibly for the ROM. he just gave some good instructions on how to compile from the CM repo so that i can do it myself whenever i like. not that i'm likely to continue once the nightlys are back.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
I wouldnt call them garbage but I agree with you in the point you made about not using a rom thats not 100% functional. Pretty much the main reason I stick with the sense roms.
[EVO 4G General] welshwarriorsf:
I guess I just like my phones features to actually function. Guess that's a wild idea. $30 for micro hdmi to hdmi? Try $5.80 @ monoprice for 10 ft. and good quality too. Don't wanna watch 720p on your 1080p tv? No neither would I but you might wanna play a game you have on your phone, including all the roms you could have, on your tv. Or you could play 720p video that you shot on your phone on your big hdtv, but your rom might not even record video so so much for that idea. Why would you not want those things to work.

Its like: I got a keyboard to sell you, trouble is only 20 letters still work, but you probably don't use those anyway, still want it?

Sent from my Evo 4G running Warm TwoPointTwo using the XDA app
[EVO 4G General] colettak:
Please try and stop being so defensive, Welsh. 4g and HDMI out are really cool features. I don't think anyone is going to argue that point with you. But for a lot of people, they are just not used much, if at all. Do I want to be able to plug my phone into my TV? Heck yes. And I have a cable for it. But why on earth would I ever need to do that? I have 5 computers I can hook up to my tv, plus a 360, ps3, wii, etc.

The only real use of the hdmi out, at least for me, is that I can take it to someone else's house and plug it into their tv, but I've never done that. I doubt I ever will, either, so it's a feature that I personally don't use.

Then there's 4g, which is another really cool feature that doesn't get much use. I have 4g where I'm at, but I also almost always have wifi, too, so again, I almost never use the feature. Also remember that a lot of people don't even get 4g service, so they can't use it.

A better keyboard analogy is this: I've got a keyboard to sell you. It's probably the nicest keyboard you'll ever use, but it has no function keys or a caps lock.

As long as you don't actually use the function keys or the caps lock, then the keyboard is a great choice. Similarly, Cyanogenmod is (in my opinion, of course) the best rom for this phone. Sure, it's missing some features (features that are being worked on, by the way). But I don't use them, so I'm not going to miss them. There's no need to get hostile.
[EVO 4G General] mrrogers1:
Problem is nothing is being sold or paid and there is no implied 100% functionality from the developers. I'd almost say if you want 100%, Sense and taking it a little further, Stock OEM Rom is your only real bet. Even the cleanest custom Sense Roms have little quirks.

So being overly critical of the "gifts" being given (by way of these Roms) is a little sh*tty but don't get me wrong, to each their own, people can gripe to the high heavens as it's just how people can be.

Everevolv has been very solid for me but I will deal with no 4G and no video recording (are these really that big of a deal to so many people?) and the Maps isn't essential BUT of all the things not working in this ASOP rom is the biggest in my mind... so I just don't get lost. :D

Anyone that has been in the "flashdance" game for awhile knows what we are getting ourselves into. If you aren't prepared, don't join this crowd. If you have a problem with a rom and would consider dogging it, then the easy thing to do is NOT FLASH IT. I really do think its bad taste to flame on about something you aren't paying and was provided freely and certainly not with malicious intent.

Maybe I'm just getting soft...
[EVO 4G General] bkrodgers:
I guess what I meant was more about it being "officially" stable. I don't think any of the developers of the GB roms are advertising it as a stable build yet. Evervolv isn't even being called a beta yet -- the dev is quite clear in calling it an alpha. That doesn't mean it can't meet your needs just fine for daily use. But nobody's claiming to have a ROM that's intended to be as solid as a 2.2 ROM yet.

I also think that it's fair to say that until CM, which I think it looked to as the definitive AOSP ROM developer (no offense to those behind MIUI or any of the other devs) says that CM7 is ready for prime time, it's still not quite there. And it's definitely fair to say that until HTC releases a GB update (or at least we see a beta leak), we won't see any Sense GB ROMs, at least nothing beyond an experimental hybrid of the two.

I may have also read too much into the subject of the OP. The body makes it clear (s)he is looking to go cutting edge. But the subject said stable for daily use, and I read that in the more stricter sense of whether something is declared stable.
[EVO 4G General] mrrogers1:
True. I suppose "Stable" really is subjective. I have no boot loops or randomness FC's or reboots, that's stable to me. A romrom that is stable yet completely unfunctional is no good but stable and hitting on most of the core functions of the phone works for somw, not for others.

Good post and who knows, the OP may have yet another idea of what stable is to them. :)
[EVO 4G General] DraginMagik:
.. desiring to have all the features work on your device makes total sense to me. but why should i cry over spilled milk when i don't use/drink milk?

.. like cole said, the only time i can see a use for the hdmi is if put a movie on my sdcard and went over to a friends house. yeah, that would be kinda slick. but i'd have to make sure to remember to bring the cable with me. which if you knew me...would make you laugh. prolly should get a larger sdcard as well.

.. i play real games on my big screen not AngryBirds or PenguinToss. i have taken only 3 or 4 video recordings with my evo since i got it opening weekend. all of them were me just testing/playing with settings.

.. if i like the keyboard and i don't use those keys, sure. the reverse would be like saying it's stoopid to buy a sports car (Corvette, Ferrari, Bugatti, etc) because you cannot use the primary feature set. or the avg single person using a SUV for their daily commute should take the train or ride a bike/moped.

do you you see what is trying to be conveyed here?

not everyone uses the device in the same way. this is a fine and wonderful thing. so long as we are aware that others may try to use the device in ways that we don't even think of. it's wise of us to remember this and be open to different utilization needs/desires. for example, one person is unable to migrate to CM6 due to no 4G. for them 4G was a real big deal since they tethered their pc to it everyday. i have yet to tether my device other than to show off. for someone else, they require GPS to be rock solid, i use it rarely. i do like the idea that i can compile my own OS, most folks don't give a ****. i like that i'm running an AOSP ROM, many folks don't know what it means or why some consider it important. do you see where i'm coming from? i don't slam your Sense based ROM's because they are slow and kludgey compared to CM. actually, if you want to know the gods honest truth...what i miss MOST from the Sense based ROMs....all over Copy/Paste and integrated FB picture sync to the contact list. those are features that feel i 'gave up' in order to run CM, not HDMI or 4G.

oh yeah, we are also discussing a RC0 ROM. do you know what RC0 means? it means the Dev's consider the ROM not ready for public consumption. it hasn't even reached official RC1 (aka: Beta). and i'll still run it before i run a Sense based ROM. every time i load a Sense ROM, my device is back onto CM before the following sunset occurs. but that is MY choice. it is MY preference. now gfowygdfsbrtbs.
[EVO 4G General] Justin.G11:
Maybe I'm being too picky but release candidates and betas are NOT the same thing. One is a known work in progress while the other is the testing of an otherwise finished project.
[EVO 4G General] leenypost:
LOL @ the myn advertisement here.... Good plug there.

Seriously though... To call another dev's work garbage while you praise Myn is a pretty sleazy thing to do. GPS + No video is not garbage when you consider the ROM wasn't even meant for the Evo in the first place. You should learn some manners... I'm sure if you go ask Myn he'll tell you that he appreciates your praise but it should never be done by insulting another hard working xda dev's work.

And before anyone gets all snippy... No I am not using the ROM in question so I'm not here trying to defend what I use... I'm just defending good manners and respect.
[EVO 4G General] leenypost:
If everything is consistant (as far as what works and what doesn't and the phone does not have any random reboots) then it's stable.... Is it what you want to use?? Maybe not.... But to have a GB ROM not crashing that has been ported from another phone all together is an achievement in stability. I really dislike when folks don't give credit where it is due. It is not an easy thing at all to build a ROM for a phone, let alone port one over successfully from an entirely different device all together.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Random side note: today I needed to flash to a Sense based ROM to update my PRL and randomly chose the Myn ROM from ROM Manager. Wow. It has the ugliest theme I've ever seen. I couldn't believe that people used that ROM regularly.
[EVO 4G General] leenypost:
Honestly, that theme isn't particularly attractive to me either but personally I used it for a while and didn't find it any better than many other dev's custom ROM's which kind of perplexed me as to why it is so popular. I asked in his ROM thread in a very polite fashion and folks for the most part said because Myn is always so involved and helps everyone a lot. That is a great quality to have in a developer so I can understand that and his ROM is stable so to each their own. I personally found Azrael X to be the fastest and most stable sense ROM on my phone... Maybe my hardware just likes it better, I don't know... But I really didn't have a preference for the theme of that one too much either so I went into the kitchen myself and tore apart Azrael X, removed the theme and kept all the greatly enhanced framework... Then themed it myself... Happy camper I am... And I sure didn't go around bashing any dev's in the process.
[EVO 4G General] bkrodgers:
I thought that at first, but I liked the ROM otherwise and stuck with it. It actually grew on me a LOT. It's jarring at first because it's such a different look.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] serialtoon:
Just as the title states. Ive been holding off on even using my HD2 (still in box) until this very day when you can flash Android right to the nand. As i see we can do this now, but my main concern is, is this stable enough to use as a day to day phone without having any issues? What are the actual limitations versus something like a Nexus S or Nexus One? Im a mobile phone whore by heart (i own a Nexus S right now) but i figured that if i can return my Nexus S and use my HD2 as a daily driver i can save some cash and still have full blown Android. So, is it 100% ready for daily use? Thanks in advance guys.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mattfmartin:
It was ready for daily use booting android on sd card. I haven't used winmo in over 7 months.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] buzz killington:
The only problem I have is that you have to manage your hardware a little bit. If you leave GPS and/or Bluetooth on they will drain more battery than they should, even if no app is using them (they drain about 2% battery per hour in standby). Basically you have to make sure they're turned off when you're not using them. As far as I know this happens with all builds. Other than that everything is peachy with my phone. :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheiPhoneKiller:
ive been using for a good 3 days,i have to say its fantastic,minamum lags,running smoothly.fantastic battery life,twice as better than when it was SD,Compared with My girlfriends Desire,battery drain is pretty much the same as hers.Well worth doing,mines only a thew months old,performance is brilliant under Android Nand,will take prob about an hour to set yours up and getting rid of Windows :D but well worth doing.As its new aswell might take a thew days for the battery to condition itself,just fully charge and then let it go flat when up and running android
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] norpan111:
Lol sell your unused hd2 and use your nexus s!?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CasualStarlord:
Works great for me, I can't use it because of some stupid crap that I rely on windows for, namely being able to specify DNS servers on a 3G connection, and being able to specify which apn/connection a particular email account needs to use in order to sync (for example when I'm on wifi, 1 account can still turn on 3g to sync itself and only itself then disconnect it again in winmo, android can't do that)

Basically my problems are with Android itself, and I really love Android but just can't use it because of the two things above, but Android runs 100% perfect on my HTC HD2 from the NAND :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Kailkti:
If you want the best of android, i think the nexus s outperforms the hd2 when rooted and modded properly, but yes, the HD2 is good enough for daily use.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] spyderman33:
I have 2 HD2s, one is running Froyo listed below and I am testing the Gingerbread version of Tytung's nexus one port...

Froyo works awesome (10 out of 10)... Gingerbread some hiccups here and there but overall a 8.5 out of 10.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Droider.Research:
Hi All,

I am new to Smali debugging. I follow the instructions given apktool google code page. However While I am trying to connect the netbeans "attach debugger" to the port 8700, I just get the "connection refused" status and not able to debug. Any Help?

TIA!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hassanadnan:
I am also facing the same situation, I am using windows XP and netbeans.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hassanadnan:
change your host to localhost or as appopriate rather than computer name. I fixed mine like that.
[Desire HD General] jokies:
I'm currently using Buzz Kernel which overclock my device a little bit and bring about a little more battery usage, the OCUV version slow down my device so I start looking into other ways to save my tiny battery.

One day I noticed a software which can govern how to handle the apps in the background, so I switched it to 0, 0, 1(that means only 1 in background can live until next app was opened. None others will kept alive)(Too dangerous app, I hardly broke my sys so go and look for it yourself).

Now my battery lives long life although I'm still a comprehensively heavy user which play games on public transportation and do a lot of texting and calling. But apps' ability were limited to those do not need to work at background, just like iPhone4 do. (Apps work as a service are still working properly, such like most battery status apps).

Anybody interested can give it a try.
[Desire HD General] cosmoboi:
What's the name of the program?
[Desire HD General] jokies:
It's called MinFreeManager.

Have to warn you facebook twitter and fring load on every open just like iPhone do, and fring has no background capability.

I played asphalt5 for 2 hours last night but consumed only 9% battery...

IPhone may consume hardly the same... no wonder why it's user like games!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dangry:
So my phone just notified me there was a system software update available but that,s all the info I got. Pretty sure its from Telus but....

Here's the question: Now I assume it would be bad for me to dl and install this update on my rooted HTC Desire but what is it? How can I find out, by calling my provider I assume? And should I unroot, install update and re-root?

I have searched the threads with no luck and I figure it's because it was just released in BC perhaps....

I know that most of these are terrible noob questions but better to ask than to figure out what to do with my expensive new paperweight....

Thanks in advance!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iocar:
whoaa im on telus in BC too! lol

ok anyways I didn't get a call though so i don't think that was a genuine call

maybe check for system software updates in settings?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lewpie:
No updates were available for me. Have you already done the 2.2 OTA update from telus?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dangry:
Update

I did the 2.2 update in October and this was a notification through my phone and I declined it and checked via the settings/about phone/software update and it showed up again.

I'm going to call Telus this afternoon and ask.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
What software version does it say it is?

And no, don't try to flash it on the rooted ROM
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dangry:
I figured best not to from what I've read before. It doesn't say what it is.

it was sent and that's all that matters!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
hmmm, OTAs normally say what version number they're updating to