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[HD2 General] meptik:
I think it might be a good idea to either involve developers in this discussion, to find out what their plans are, or to just wait before making any further changes to forum structure. No use in creating new subforums for flashing methods that might be obsolete in 2 weeks. On the subject of .zip versions for recovery flashing, I wonder if these won't just be offered as a second download format in the current NAND threads.

It's amazing how fast things are moving right now, who knows how we'll be flashing things next week ;)
[HD2 General] 96edwy:
didnt even know there was a meego port in operation lol
[HD2 General] qaliza:
Great idea. It would be easier to get what you want.

Talking Installation wise:

In my opinion RAM and SD builds should be under the same category. Both have the same installation procedure.

NAND and ZIP Builds though, are pretty much the same but they only differ in installation procedures. So I think each one should have its own sub-category.

Android Development

--------------> HD2 Android General Discussion

--------------> HD2 Android Q&A

--------------> HD2 Android Themes & Apps

--------------> HD2 Android SD/RAM Build/ROM Devlopment

--------------> HD2 Android NAND Build/ROM Devlopment

--------------> HD2 Android ZIP Build/ROM Development
[HD2 General] hd945157206:
Awesome..................................
[HD2 General] Intel_x:
Missing One

I think we are missing one maemo?...

does Unbutu counts.

People that voted no maybe are haterz that don't own htc hd2 does voes shouldn't count xda mobile for this pole i bet would be 100%
[HD2 General] MoneyFist:
Dont do Meego... it's a lost cause!
[HD2 General] torquadon:
I agree, it would be much easier to find what you need...
[HD2 General] igordata:
meego + ubuntu = HD2 other OS

:)
[HD2 General] Archer:
I also suggest that this thread has a forum of its own...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=870535

It's FAR too important to be a mere sticky thread! :confused::confused::confused:
[HD2 General] gaciego6:
i 2nd this
[HD2 General] gileneusz:
please add qemu section with windows 95-98 -xp-7 porting on qemu and developing

I've read that Heroes of Might and Magic III has been run on HD2 :D

Most of people don't know it because topic is on Windows Mobile Hacking section,

please include it on HD2, much more people would be encourage to develope it
[HD2 General] odoss:
Absolutely YES ! :)
[HD2 General] Beretta93:
My opinion is that meego and ubuntu do not need their own sub section, or if they do, they should be in the the same space, like "other projects".

WP7 deserves its own sub section for there should be more builds of it that the two previous.
[HD2 General] dneto:
I always wondered if there was a need for two forums

Maybe keep that post sticky with instructions about Q&A posts would reduce the number of posts divided between the two foruns, but with the same context/subject. And reduce maybe 3 unecessary foruns.

Another suggestion:

And already pined, but. My Vote is YES!
[HD2 General] dharvey4651:
Should this happen, I plan to close the poll and use this thread with the layout presented and a detailed description of what goes where.

Because I will be doing this, chances are, after spending hours and hours moving all of the threads to their new homes and sorting and organizing the whole forum, I will be moving misplaced threads without redirects. This will be the only way to keep it looking clean.

I'm hoping to be working hand in hand with the Admin's making the changes so I can kind of delegate how I would like it to be done - Descriptions below forum title delegating what goes in that forum.
[HD2 General] apeatan:
i vote yes
[HD2 General] fred_up:
My only suggestion would be to merge the HD2 and the HD2 TMOUS and have WinMo ROM and WinMo TMOUS ROM threads.
[HD2 General] georgekg:
Finally! Very good idea!

Also I propose poll for the whole XDA forum hierarchy! It's not right to see on the top of the XDA forum iPhone! which have a smallest number of threads and posts! HD2 is the most commented and so far best device for modding and doing everything you want with it! So why iPhone? This forum isn't even started because of iPhone, but because other devices you can find on the bottom of this forum. Shame! Most people don't like it (I don't like it) iPhone is the most expensive piece of plastic and metal on the market and what you get for the price? Noting! Almost nothing to mod or personalize! It shouldn't be on the top even if you organize forum by alphabetical order!

Anyone else thinks the same?
[HD2 General] rohrig.daniel:
hd2 Android

I think the new layout is good, but Android on SD and Nand Android should have its own separate areas. its only been a few days and iv already come across SD Android builds in the new Nand Android section.
[HD2 General] dharvey4651:
First post slightly updated.
[HD2 General] whiteflaggg:
Nice, at least there is a Leo WIN7 section.
[HD2 General] xtepakxsirehx:
good idea.this will be more easier
[HD2 General] justinmcnairy:
It a good thing combining T-Mobile and international HD2 into one, and the forum organize look perfect.
[HD2 General] ominion:
definitely yes!
[HD2 General] Petegonz:
Yes for me.
[HD2 General] ScRePt:
I generally disagree that themes should be in the same section with applications.

Also I do not see why Q&A is different from General Discussion.

So, since it's only Yes/No, I voted No.
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
and there we have it, the reason nothing more will happen, eveyone wants something different and has their own ideas, we have WM we have SD and NAND thats all we need, im supprised they did that but with everyone on here now wanting something different i doubt anything else will happen
[HD2 General] felixdd:
I voted yes, because I think it's an improvement over the current structure.

But I agree with ScRePt re. Q&A vs. General Discussions. When I first came to the HD2 section, I was confused as to whether I should post in Q&A or GD for my questions. In fact, I still haven't sorted this out in my head yet.

I say merge'em, but even if you don't, the proposed structure is an improvement. And I'm all for improvement -- so yes.
[HD2 General] dneto:
I agree... but with moderators enforcement in Thread Titles Rules... if non compliance: Alert thread OP, Correct if needed.. but please, combine both...

Tottaly agree. Let's reduce the number of foruns.

Not reflecting Q&A and General in One Forum, as I and others suggest As you see.. is a comom sense this idea.. .. ;)

NAND, SD, RAM, ZIP....

I think NAND and ZIP (necessary?) need a separeted forum by now.

SD/RAM is basicly the same method, i guess in short time everyone will abbandon this method.
[HD2 General] TubbyHamster:
Love it! Yes!
[HD2 General] fatso485:
im going to have to disagree with most of you.

this is almost 30 subforums for one phone. its too fragmented. i dont see and reason why the android forums can be done in 2 subforms (ROMs development, Q&A forum)
[HD2 General] Wevenhuis:
I would even go as far as to say to subcategorize the sections Themes&apps and ROMs. There are so many! Also CHT deserves a seperate section.
[HD2 General] Pavel.Simon:
I am OK with it. Well done.
[HD2 General] Danation:
^^^ I strongly agree with felixdd on both points.

The way it is now is utter chaos. If you want to find a kernel thread from 4 days ago, you have to search through 5 or 6 pages, etc. Builds and proposals and kernels and themes are all shoved together. Re-organization would be extremely helpful.
[HD2 General] Kangal:
Compromise - best of both worlds?

Your proposition is better than the one that's currently implemented.

But it's a bit long, why not merge the Ubuntu and MeeGo developments since they are closely related and are the minority in those options.

Like this:

HTC Leo: HD2

(International, T-Mobile US)

HD2 Accessories

Accessories for the HTC HD2 (Cases, screen protectors, batteries, etc)

General Discussion

General Discussion regarding your HTC HD2

HD2 WM6.5(x)

--------------> WM6.5(x) Q&A

--------------> For all your questions regarding WM6.5(x) on the HTC HD2

--------------> WM6.5(x) Themes & Apps

--------------> Themes & Apps for your WM6.5(x) HTC HD2

--------------> WM6.5(x) ROM Development

--------------> ROM Development for your HTC HD2 - WM6.5 & WM6.5(x)

HD2 Android

--------------> HD2 Android Q&A

--------------> For all your questions regarding Android on your HTC HD2

--------------> HD2 Android Themes & Apps

--------------> Themes and apps for your Android HTC HD2

--------------> HD2 Android SD Build/ROM Development

--------------> Development of Android to be run off the SD Card on the HTC HD2

--------------> HD2 Android NAND Build/ROM Development

--------------> Development of Android to be run from NAND on the HTC HD2

HD2 Ubuntu and MeeGo

--------------> HD2 Ubuntu and MeeGo Q&A

--------------> For all your questions regarding Ubuntu and MeeGo on your HTC HD2

--------------> HD2 Ubuntu and MeeGo Themes & Apps

--------------> Themes and apps for your Ubuntu and MeeGo HTC HD2

--------------> HD2 Ubuntu and MeeGo Build/ROM Development

--------------> Ubuntu and MeeGo ROM Development(SD/NAND) for your HTC HD2

HD2 WP7

--------------> HD2 WP7 General Discussion

--------------> General Discussion regarding WP7 on your HTC HD2

What do you say?
[HD2 General] ImeXis:
i love the new hierarchy
[HD2 General] dharvey4651:
This just might work. I don't know how close Ubuntu and Meego really are to one another though. I'm just not familiar with the platforms.

If they really are similar enough then I might just make these changes. Need some confirmation.
[HD2 General] 00Nuclear00:
extra section for ram builds would be nice ;)
[HD2 General] dharvey4651:
As said earlier in this thread - Won't be necessary. Dev's can add a tag to their thread title> [RAM] and that will make it very easy to tell which threads are RAM builds and which ones are not.

It won't even matter if it is a NAND or SD build. That simple little tag will do perfectly well regardless of which kind of build it is.
[HD2 General] dneto:
dharvey,

And Q&A jointing with General?? Everyon seems agree with this....
[HD2 General] HTCore:
Perfect, finally a great solution for overcrowded Leo forums. But I'm thinking also about merging "General Discussion" and "Q&A" for each subforums. What's your opinion?
[HD2 General] enadiz:
What happens to the common General Discussion for ALL HD2 users? To share our love of HD2 no matter the OS?
[HD2 General] dharvey4651:
For everyone wanting a Generic General Discussion forum, re-added it to the proposal.
[HD2 General] dneto:
General not merged with Q&A forum?
[HD2 General] Kangal:
You're right, my earlier proposal (top of page 9) is now *fixed

We need one thread to discuss anything about it, just a generic General Discussion.

If anyone has a query, or "general discussion" but only specific to a certain development, they can do so in Q&A of that development topic (so it acts as both the Q&A and the General Discussions thread).

Example;

Is their an App that will show me how long I've walked? If not can someone make one?

... in HD2 Android Q&A
[HD2 General] RandomXIII:
The new hierarchy looks great. I only have one suggestion however. Is it possible to move the WP7 development right below the WM6.5 and the Ubuntu right below Android so that it can also be structured based on OS maker such as MS, Google, Nokia, etc... ?
[HD2 General] jenzy1985:
very good idea
[HD2 General] RichardState:
K.I.S.S - Keep It Simple Stupid :p
[HD2 General] Intel_x:
Missing

we still missing maemo and clockword .zip roms
[HD2 General] tkato:
With WP7 coming out and porting of Meego started plus Ubuntu finally showing some skin... this place is gonna be friggin crowded, we have to create a new structure.

btw, you should add "Rom development" for each of OSs, otherwise it would be pointless.
[HD2 General] dharvey4651:
Check first post again.
[HD2 General] dneto:
We had several suggestions junction and General Q & A forum. (Check History please)

It is not being considered? I believe that the issues are related and make sense being together, separated by traditional tags in the post title.

Only in May this change would reduce 5 unnecessary forums.

Proposed:

(BOLD = Forum Title)

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NOTE: You you support this merge of

Q&A and General Discussion

, please Say Thanks (just to votes count )
[HD2 General] dharvey4651:
I actually tend to agree. I'm kind of sick of moving threads out of General Discussion to the Q&A forums. Merging them would probably make it easier for me, and for users to actually get an answer. Users viewing the G-D forum will see the question threads and maybe help out a bit more as well..

I'll take into advisory. Will decide later.
[HD2 General] zuko1989:
for me now is the PERFECT Hierarchy for our phone.
[HD2 General] Cptrucker:
awesome!

+1

gogogo!:D
[HD2 General] justinmcnairy:
Hope they made the change. They need to combine T-Mobile and International into one forum
[HD2 General] dharvey4651:
Q&A Forums and General Discussion Forums, PER OS, have been merged.

For example:

See first post for the full forum list.

NOTE: LAYOUT IS FINAL.
[HD2 General] dhma2c:
hell yeah!
[HD2 General] lttl.espana:
I am all for organization of the HD2 Forum, plus ...

I believe these changes should take place too, for this will help organize the builds.

HD2 Android

General Discussion, Q&A, Themes, Apps and ROM Development

--------------> HD2 Android Q&A and General Discussion

--------------> For all your questions and General Discussion regarding Android on your HTC HD2

--------------> HD2 Android Themes & Apps

--------------> Themes and apps for your Android HTC HD2

--------------> HD2 Android SD ROM Development

--------------> Development of Android to be run off the SD Card on the HTC HD2

--------------------> Froyo

--------------------> Gingerbread

--------------------> Honeycomb

--------------> HD2 Android NAND ROM Development

--------------> Development of Android to be run from NAND on the HTC HD2

--------------------> Froyo

--------------------> Gingerbread

--------------------> Honeycomb

lttl.espana
[HD2 General] Intel_x:
Aren't we missing something

we still missing Maemo5.
[HD2 General] dharvey4651:
Too much. Not gonna happen. Threads have titles for a reason and tags are in use to identify threads. There are still Android 2.1 ROM's available for SD usage, there are Froyo builds, there are Gingerbread builds. There are Honeycomb? builds? Never heard of this term before.

Simply put, it's easier for everyone to use tags and thread titles to identify the thread and not create additional forums for each version of an OS. Doing this in the WM6.5(x) forum would be an abomination.

Direct me to the Maemo5 port for the HD2 and I'll think about it. I have not heard anything about a Maemo5 port until just now.
[HD2 General] videira:
Very nice...

I really like the idea...:):)
[HD2 General] lydr:
That will be very good!
[HD2 General] spikewebster:
Great work!!

Thanks for keeping this forum site so clean and clear, definitely the best out there.
[HD2 General] williamsean:
While we're at it, would it be possible to make some kind of a reported bugs list for each tread, so if you want to report a bug you can see whitch bugs are already reported and if it's already there you can add your comment to this bug, or start a new bug.
[HD2 General] Hagi37:
We should have an Other OS group. For example, where would a Windows 98 port for the HD2 go or in the future some other type of OS (bada, iOS) be placed in?
[HD2 General] adamvanner:
Yes, good plan, and while were at it... 97% approval of the structure.. lets go already!
[HD2 General] TheiPhoneKiller:
im likeing this.Wow,the posabiltys are endless with this thing.Why dont we go ahead and have symbian and all or does that make people wanna throw up,ok we leave that one then.well what other phone can have all that lot.Best Tweakable Phone Ever.Never known a device like it :D
[HD2 General] obihcoca:
I agree with proposed format
[HD2 General] darren211:
i Vote Yes!!!!
[HD2 General] mdpgc:
looks good!!!
[HD2 General] salonluden:
You guys votes are at 97.5% yes... lets put this into action!
[HD2 General] mardurhack:
I'm looking forward to it! I'm really starting to get nervous!! Can't even understand if a rom is based on froyo or gingerbread!! O.o And what about clockworkmod? Many roms contain a zip file without being in the title! So you don't even know if that rom is going to work with CWM or not...
[HD2 General] dneto:
And just because someone can't read the entire topic to find information about base rom, we need create ANOTHER FORUM?

Do not make sense. :D
[HD2 General] mardurhack:
Are you serious?

EDITED (Thought about another post I had written)

What I mean is that right now too many Operating Systems are growing up and soon we must be organized to keep things tidy.

Anyway 98% of people voted yes so is YOUR comment the one which doesn't make sense buddy! :P
[HD2 General] dneto:
Maybe we are talking about the same thing.

I propose join Q&A and General Discussion in ONE forum. DONE

I support maitain just two ROM Development for Android (NAND/ZIP and SD/RAM)

I had understood you wanted separate foruns to Froyo, Ginberbread, etc. I think isn`t necessary, like SD/RAM/ZIP/NAND separation.

Honestly i think Another OS such W9X,Ubuntu,MeeGO are small and focused development (excluding WP7, because nature of OS) can live in one forum, but I still have doubts about this.

Sorry if I understand what you said wrong. =] But "nervous" its to much, not?

Regards bro
[HD2 General] mardurhack:
I agree.

I agree twice.

I agree three times! :P I confused "tagging" with "hierarchy" because I was replying to another post before.

Infact I agree merging all these OSs in one big section called "Other Operating Systems" except for WP7 which could become more famous (unfortunately) than others. Btw the hierarchy in the first post fits my "reading" necessities.

No I can assure you it's not too much! :P But once again I was talking about tagging not posting. That ONLY for Android roms. It's pretty obvious that in an hypothetical section "Other Op.Sys." would be easy to understand what they're talking about just by reading the title! :P (Ubuntu, Meego and so on).

What put me in confusion was your "read the topic" while, IMHO, you meant "read the TITLE of the topic" :)

Cheers! ;)
[HD2 General] dharvey4651:
Okay guys lets keep it on topic. :cool:
[HD2 General] mardurhack:
We are in topic actually....... O.o
[HD2 General] stephandelaat:
When will the new forum be implemented?
[HD2 General] dharvey4651:
Not sure yet. Awaiting feedback from the user experience admin.
[HD2 General] stephandelaat:
Maybe you should ad this to the first page so everybody knows that the decision is pending. Anyway, Thanks for the reply.
[HD2 General] svetius:
Ok guys, we're going to roll this out. As you could imagine, it's going to take a lot of surgery getting all the forums into place. We'll try to have it done by the middle of next week. Thanks for all of the votes and suggestions.
[HD2 General] mattwaddy:
Wow can't believe this is happening, especially from the random submission I entered in the NAND Poll thread. I suppose great minds think alike!
[HD2 General] roosen5:
I wish I could vote yes all day on this poll :D
[HD2 General] stephandelaat:
Nice! This will bring a new boost to HD2 rom development!:D

Extending the forum and a darkstone release, this day is going to be awesome!
[HD2 General] stephandelaat:
Could you guys maybe ad one more thread for guides. There are alot of guides spread around the HD2 forum, it would be very nice if these guides would be in one place.
[HD2 General] dharvey4651:
Guides will be added to the Sticky Roll Up organization threads I will be creating. They will be kept in the forums they pertain to.
[HD2 General] stephandelaat:
Anybody allready told you....."your doing a good job!!!"....Cause you are!:D
[Android Themes] fcb13:
Is there any way to insert page shortcuts into ADW Launcher?

I am currently using LauncherPro but i wish to use the new ADW, as it is much newer and smoother.
[Android Themes] Pfeffernuss:
Not yet, no.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevink213:
Hey XDA.

I'm trying to revert my myTouch 4G back to its original state.

And I'm kinda new to this, so I need help on doing this.

I installed the Desire Z ROM onto it.

I need to get it back to the Original myTouch.

I thought I backed up my .IMG file, but I guess I didn't.

So can anyone help me on doing this?

Thanks!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gabelegos:
Please post questions in q&a section. And the stock image is in the rom bible.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slhpss:
There is a "downgrade" guide... that is your best bet... be sure to revert the gfree if you followed the "Ultimate S=off" method
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neidlinger:
The Unlockr has a stock MySense Nandroid back up along with the a stock recovery image so you can flash the Nandroid backup from a recovery screen, then flash the stock recovery image if you want to go all the way back to stock. along with how to undo g/free and turn s=on.
[A7 General] Lindarose84:
In the interest of branching out of the main thread, I thought I'd start a thread regarding battery life- how many hours are you guys getting? For those who have somewhat decent battery life, what tweaks/settings are you using?

I went and disabled background data syncing hoping this would at least help improve battery life only to find that even idle (with no real use at all), this thing eats battery like there is no tomorrow.

I think with super light usage the most I've gotten is about 4-5 hours. There HAS to be a way to improve on this. I can never walk around without my charger in my bag- that is just crazy.

So any ideas or suggestions would be great! (By the way, I'm running Dexter's latest rom on top of eLocity's official firmware update).
[A7 General] DroidxRage:
I'm posting 4 hours 54 minute uptime right now with a quick 10 minute game of fruit slice, light to moderate web browsing, and moderate to heavy instant messaging. I have 29% battery left.

I generally set my apps to sync no more frequently than 30 minutes at the least. I turn the screen off when I walk away to do something. Other than that the tablet stays running on my couch side all day.

I have also seen it go for days on standby mode without going dead. I'm happy with the battery life. My Archos isn't much better, and is much less powerful of a device.

I'm also on ElociMod (which is based off the newest firmware... ;) )
[A7 General] Bjake:
cant get more than 4 hours no matter what i do. running dexter's modc
[A7 General] rspray:
We might be able to help the battery life using some clever tricks with SetCPU. I know it helped on my Pandigital Novel, and 2/3 on that device was used to power the screen, as opposed to ~1/3 for the processor. I'm gonna guess it might be the complete opposite of that on the A7.
[A7 General] djyellowperil:
I don't think SetCPU works on the A7 or any other Tegra2 at least not yet.
[A7 General] argie:
It doesn't... it will FC.

CPU Tuner installs and runs. It shows a min of 260 MHz and a max of 1000 MHz, and it has profiles based on battery charge. I just installed it, so I don't know what to expect.
[A7 General] cbotd:
I wanted to resurrect this thread and post my experience with A7 battery life.

I am running Dexter 1.2, brightness at 35%, WiFi always on, Bluetooth mostly off, screen timeout at 2 minutes. Syncing three mail accounts, weather and Google calendar. Limited or no background syncing of other apps.

My typical day with the device consists of;

a full charge in the morning

3 to 4 hours of standby time

30-45 minutes of web use

another 3 to 4 hours of standby

3 to 4 hours of heavy web, texting, reading, and games

I place the A7 back on the charger at night and it usually has about 20%-25% charge left.

I figure I am getting about 4-5 hours of use and close to 8 hours of standby each day fairly easily.

This battery life is very comparable to my Droid 2 Global.
[A7 General] ewmicro:
The ipad battery has more than 4 times the capacity of the A7, but only twice the run time.