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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bboygolem:
highcoder, thanks for you reply, but i have some questions:

1 - i know that overclocking the cpu , i have a more battery drain and disease percentage, but i noticed a little performance increase.... can it be "placebo effect"?

2 - I thought to use the old kernel, but i read somewhere that is slower than the new one. It's true?

3 - I can install the donut, i don't care about eyecandy's, but I'm afraid that a lot of apps in the market shall not work with the "donut" distribution.. am i wrong? using fat free froyo with the old kernel shall improve my performance?

thanks again
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bboygolem:
sorry, dobule post
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] highcoder:
Oh that are a lot of questions i cant answer properly.

The overclocking has of course an effect. But it is only a little average performance increase. Hard to notice that. the most of that is really placebo. But the risk of brick something or to have an instable system ist sigificant higher... so its not worth it...

i dont know about the older kernels because i have a HTC HD2 since 6 Month so there was a lot of change here. Froyo have got a real performance increase the last months. So the kerneldevs and the chef´s here do a good work. But the best Foyobuilt (2.2) here with the newest kernel don´t beat the smoothieness and felt speed of Myn´s warm Donut (1.6).

I never had a problem with market apps and donut. Shure there will be apps that wont work with donut anymore but for that case there are enough alternative apps that will work.

If you want i can search my HDD´s for the kernel i used an give it to you...

But now i´ll go to bed. :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bboygolem:
thanks highcoder, it'd be very kind from you =)

have a good night
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] highcoder:
@bigboss2200 & bboygolem

Battry Drain Test with newest DZO Kernel and Fat Free Froyo is in progress. After that i will test Myn´s war Donut with a NEW Kernel. So i can compare these builts about batterydrain and Speed. May be the speed improvements of the new Froyobuilts i´ve noticed are only Kernel related. In this case Myn´s warm donut should benefit from this kernel optimizations too an we will have a real performance boost. I'm curious about it. :-)

I will post my results...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bboygolem:
in the meantime, i installet latest dzo kernel and fat free froyo, and it seems stable and usable

but if using the .25 kernel i will be able to use the camera and to shut down the phone permanently, keeping an accettable speed, i think i'd downgrade the kernel

i'm looking forward to see your test results
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] highcoder:
ok i have tested Myns warm donut with .32 kernel = laggy animations

so i downloaded the latest .25 kernel from here. After that i downloaded the mandatory update for all older builts from here. Without this update wifi won´t work. In newer builts it is cooked in already.

Flash the kernel.

Install Myns

Install Update

Weeehaaaa! :-) It works with the newer .25 too. Smooth animations, very responsive and snappy. WLAN works fine... battery drain will show a longer test...

I always made some adjustments. Go to spareparts -> Window Animation = fast and transition animation = fast, fancy input animation = on

Give it a try... Let your Kaiser feel "young" again ;-)

EDIT: Dont use the builtin Astro filemanager. Its outdated... Download a newone from market. My Favourite is Estrong ESfileexplorer. Because it can handle FTP and SMB. That mean Windows network shares too. So you can exchange your files over wlan with your PC.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Krazy-Killa:
Not sure what's wrong with mine, but whenever I use l1q1d's 2.6.25 kernel, I run into problem of my Home Screen constantly reloading, like the phone runs out of RAM, and is unable to allocate any memory into the foreground apps. It's not just with the Home Screen, I can't run some other apps reliably either (Facebook, Messaging, Gmail, etc), without them constantly closing out and reloading. Keep in mind these are not FCs but constant closes due to not having enough RAM to keep the app killer from kicking in.

I'm currently using an old 2.6.25 kernel by DZO, and I've yet to run into problems with memory, and I'm on Day 2 of my test.

But so far I've noticed that the 2.6.25 kernel provides a much more stable environment and is much quicker response wise.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rainwinder:
Myns warm donut is the fastest rom I have tried.

But one thing very strange:

using Myns warm donut, when I play games, it is very slow and almost no response. However, application runs very fast

using Fat Free froyo, not as fast as Myns warm donut, but smooth when playing games (of course, I mean simple games, not like angry birds!), I think may be froyo have better display drivers?

so strange, haha
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bboygolem:
the .25 kernel you posted is for vogue.. can i install it as soon as i download it, or i have to convert using atools?

donut is in download, i have only to know this kernel issue, and i'm good to go =)

thanks a lot highcoder for support
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] highcoder:
You have to modify it with Atools...

You shoult read this guide for atools. With it you can save time because you can install your android in only one step. ;-)

@rainwinder

Yep. Froyo seems to do it better with the games but gaming on Kaiser is always not funny. ;-) But you´re right. In speed things Fat Free Froyo comes directly after Myns warm Donut.

@Krazy-Killa

Yep .25 is more stable and faster than .32

I´m at test-day-one. No forceclose or anything else yet... So i can´t say what your problem is... Which android built? Which kernel settings? System & Data on Nand?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Krazy-Killa:
Current Build

VanilijEclair RLS11

Current Kernel & Settings

DZO 2.6.25 1-07-10 Build

Complete NAND Install.

CPU Overclock to 450MHz (No instability with this setting)

Battery set to 2470

HTC Kaiser

Panel 2

Tilt Keyboard

240x320 Resolution
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bboygolem:
hhm, due to i'want to use kaiser even for gaming a little, i think i will keep fat free froyo, that is the fastest build i've tried until now....

as soon as i finished a think, i will downgrade the kernel

yuppo yuppi i'm so happy of my phone

vmscumm... i'm coming !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] highcoder:
yup. latest .25 kernel (modified with atools) and Fat Free Froyo should fit best for your purposes.

Have fun :-)

@Krazy-Killa

Hmm... i have no experience with eclair builts. And overclocking can even produce this kind of problem. The System seems to be stable but... yeah... you should test every build with the stock frequency of 400 MHz. And if you have found a good combination of kernel & built for you and THEN you can begin to overclock(i prefer 10MHz steps per day). Dont try new roms with already overclock settings.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Krazy-Killa:
Still having those strange application reloads occuring. Everything was fine up until I got all my stuff loaded, then everything starts slowing down, and apps start closing and restarting by themselves.

I've reflashed l1q1d's 2.6.25 kernel, reinstalled VanilijEclair RLS11 build and started from scratch with clock @400MHz. :(

About 2 weeks ago, I used this same kernel with a Froyo build (I believe it was Not So Super Froyo), at least one that was still compatible with 2.6.25 kernel, and that did the same thing. Hell I even loaded Gingerbread (the vanilla version), and it booted, had wifi, bluetooth, data, etc, but after awhile foreground apps start closing on their own and restarting.

DZOs kernel showed signs of slowing down to a crawl but the foreground app (home screen, or other apps) don't force restart on their own.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] highcoder:
Hmm sounds like a kernel problem. I dont know which kernel you habe but i loaded the latest kernel from here. And no problem so far...

So the only thing i can suggest here ist to try out different kernels.

I´m not a kernel programmer so i couldn´t do anything if you have a kernelbug.

Before i got my HD2 i had kernels from DZO. And then from Kallt_Kaffe because of his better GPS code (a modified DZO kernel). And always when K_K posted a new kernel i updated my phone. But then he posted kernels that doesn´t fit to my system anymore. I had laggy animations etc etc... so i went back to the older one...

what i whould say is... the newer one is not always the better one...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Krazy-Killa:
I've got the exact same kernel loaded on my phone. Though the one from DZO's source didn't have this issue (One from 1-07-10)

I'm currently running Not So Super Froyo right now with l1q1d's latest 2.6.25 kernel, which was the same kernel I had for the VanilijEclair RLS11 build, so I'll see how that turns out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bigboss2200:
Thank you for your reply :) .. I'm using that build with .25 kernel downloaded from atools and modified over there, and I'm happy with it, its really a stable release and I had less crashes than the Fat Free Froyo release with .32 kernel.. here is a screenshot of both builds (considering battery usage), the first screen is for Froyo and the other is for Donut:

I couldn't take any screenshot for Donut :S ..! It seems that I don't know how to grant it a root access.. any ideas???? anyway here are the details:

Battery usage:

Display --> 61%

TrekBuddy --> 13%

Wi-Fi --> 7%

Jewels --> 7%

Android System --> 6%

CEll Standby --> 4&

Market --> 2%

ADW.Launcher --> 2%

2h 21m 21s since unplugged

Battery Level: 79%

I have to mention, that in Froyo, the battery lasted 1% for more than 3 hours, which didn't happen in Donut. Instead, the battery in Donut felt from 45% to 4%. I've been trying Donut for 1 day only, so I'll post any extra results once I run out of battery :)

EDIT:

Battery Report on Donut:

4h 32m 15s with 71% Remaining battery level. I have the feeling that its a very wrong battery reading, but I hope not..

5h 32m 18s with 69%

7h 1m 15s with 65%

EDIT2:

My phone unmounted my SD card, so I restarted the phone, and got that "wake up" problem, so I'm formatting my Kaiser after I return back and installing the

recommended kernel by highcoder.

Can you tell us which games you were playing?? I'm using Myn's Warm Donut with kernel downloaded directly from atools and I've been playing both Jewels & Unblock Me without any problems..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bboygolem:
due to a bug in battery management, i switched back to donut ... i'm triying it... and i't so cool. !!

i still have the camera problem (green screen) and i dont find any kernel or fix to get it work... any clue from here?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] highcoder:
Do you flash another kernel only or the complete system after kernel-change? The better way is the complete system...

and dont forget to modify the kernel with atools to Donut built...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bboygolem:
installed kernel, reinstalled donut system wiping data, installed wifi update, and the system is fast and furious.

But camera still not working... how is your battery drain with donut?

another think : using this build, apps are installed in sd or in the phone memory? i dont want all my little mem full of dirty =)

byez
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] floy4life:
Hey guys does anyone know why it says the phone number under settings-phone info the number says unknown can someone help me I'm usting gingerbread 1.1
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dbzfanatic:
This is the development section, not Q&A. Your number should show up after you get a call, did with me. Next time post in the proper section.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] gAracUh:
ahh.. ok dami mong alam :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] a2ha:
stupid topic name...

also there are 8 arrows to the right and 7 arrows to the left...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] palino911:
very amusing reading :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] DooMLoRD:
wasnt this a sticky???
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Crowds:
yes it was.

i just wonder WTF is this:confused: very usefull
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StarLog:
I have a HD2 running a 3 month old Froyo with sense, I set up the contacts and phone numbers, if I decide to load a different distro of Android, will I loose my contacts.?

What is the best process to save or copy them, and then reload
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bates_1974:
Sync contacts with your Google account, easiest and simplest
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] paalkr:
Use your Google account for storing contacts.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Rurph:
mybackup pro, with it you can even restore call logs
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StarLog:
WOW, you guys are good, thanks plenty of items.

I did the google thing and it even gave me back my old contacts from when I had a G1,, nice
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheiPhoneKiller:
There is anouther way.you can export your contacts to the SD and then when you load up your new rom you can import them back
[myTouch 3G, Magic Apps and Games] simfin:
Hi, this is my first post on this amazing forum...

my phone HTC MAGIC 32A TIM (from Italy)... with original ROM Cupcake 1.5

i try to install a new coocked ROM on my phone, and i have installed a Universal Androot for ROOT permission and ROM Manager Premium for flash recovery and flash new ROM...

but i have a big problem ... after Root Permission i try by Rom Manger to Install a clockworkmod recovery, but when i click on "Install ClockWorkmod recovery" nothing happen.... WHY? donwload don't start (WIFI is active) ??

The menu report -> Actual Recovery : ClockworkMod Unknown

do you have any suggestion to bypass this problem ?

thanks in advance

Simone
[myTouch 3G, Magic Apps and Games] Binary100100:
Did you flash the "HTC Magic" recovery?

What happens when you reboot to recovery?
[Beetles] michaelvdnet:
hi guys

first i want to say is i am dutch so don't blame me for any mistakes

i have a problem with my ipaq becaus my home network is encrypted with a wpa-2 key and the ipaq doesn't support that.

is there a way to log on to my network

thanks
[Beetles] nick_gr7:
I have exactly this problem.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Heronization:
Hi I am a Newbie to all this Smartphone stuff, but recently I was offered to buy a HTC HD2. The Phone Looks like a Beast!! But I hate the Windows Mobile Operating 6.5! I was thinking of buying.... I just recently discovered that you can port Android 2.2 to the HTC HD2, but I had a couple of questions which will help me a lot! I will only Buy the HTC HD2 if I can get Android 2.2 on to the Phone & use it as my Primary OS....

~ My Question is this ~

Is it possible to port Android 2.2 FULLY onto the HTC HD2?? I mean like does everything work? (ie. Wifi, Internet browsing, Apps, Phone, Themes, Movies) All that good stuff :P and can it be my Primary OS on the HTC Hd2? and I'm with ROGERS, i live in Canada, will the phone work properly with the different radio band?

If someone could help me and answer my question it would be the world to me!

Thanks:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] m2shakiba:
ok let me get this straight

if you want to buy a phone and you haven't bought it yet

JUST DONT BUY HTC HD2 IT SUCKS

in fact you can get ondroid on it

but you will face so many problems that make you regret it

like battery drain

not loud speakers

connection problem

lack of space

and ....

if you want to know my opinion

dont by htc it olso sucks

i would go with samsung if i were you

the battery and cpu and screen is much better

or apple

if you buy htc you gonna hate it:mad:

that's for sure
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Heronization:
Well, A real Android Phone cost about $400, This person is selling the HTC Hd2 to me for $100 so, I like to send less money :p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] m2shakiba:
well in that case ... i think you'd better get it

it's not all that bad

and over all all those problems that i mentioned are wrapped

so if you want to know the android is fully functional

i'm gonna say yes it is except one ore two problems that are not very important

so if 100 dollars the get congradulations

but it cant be like an android phone

if you want to know more lets talk later becouse i'm gonna sleep

send me a private message and i will answer all your quastions
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Archer:
Please ignore m2shakiba - they are a ridiculously isolated case of trollness! There are hundreds of thousands of satisfied HD2 Android users out there. I'm one of them, and it works flawlessly for me.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] m2shakiba:
wait a minute ignore me

all those builds out there have some problems

haven't you ever seen dozens of reports of weird problems in Q&A

and of course the change of rmnet to ppp that causes the hole problem

android is ported to hd2 but with lots of bugs and ...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Heronization:
well now i am all confused?? lol there is more than just one build for the HTC HD2?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Archer:
First thing you've said that makes sense.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Archer:
There are lots of different builds. Have a look a the HD2 Android NAND and HD2 Android Development threads.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Heronization:
oh then from your build what doesn't work on your HTC HD2 right now?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] m2shakiba:
ok fine i confess that because of efforts and hard works of people like johncmolyneux we can work with android

and i totally respect them

but ignoring the fact that the android on hd2 is not as good as other phones is unreasonable

and finally the choice is yours if you can really get hd2 on 100 dollars

then leave the rest of the work to us we make the phone like an android phone

maybe a little better in some diraction
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] firozu:
Well, I would have to say android 2.2 is fully working on my hd2. I am completely happy and it works better than other android phones imo. Now the issues that other people are having seem to be from not following the directions and not using the proper radio/rom. Combination. At any rate android installation litteraly takes like five minutes. The only issue I have is the battery consumption that is much worse than on energy rom with winmo. However I also mist include that I. Doing alot more on the phone school as facebook always updating sms popup led notifications, gps and what not so I can't fully say the battery crnsumption is horrible also u can always just carry a car charger which is what I do...

Hope that helps
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BillReed:
Dude, you have serious problems!!

Android is almost as functional as WM, thats for sure, no battery drain, i have no force closes.

I'll risk to say that HD2 is the most "supported" smartphone of all times, hundreds of builds/rom's/themes.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Archer:
Everything works perfectly on my current build. There is nothing at all I've had problems with. I'm using a Nexus One NAND build.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] crossmission:
@m2shakiba : seriously? you recomend a samsung as a phone brand that has good battery consumption under android, especially the s-amoled ones, I mean, SERIOUSLY?? Have you ever had a HTC HD2 and had any problems with it and left you bitter? I can honestly say that the HD2 community is probably one of the biggest there are of it's kind and that probably means happy owners and the HD2 is ,if not the most, one of the most versatille devices out there, anyway there's a million more arguments I could pose but I won't bother.

@heronization: don't even think twice about buying the device as long as it works properly, check if the touchscreen and buttons respond the way they should ( i mean not pressing in the middle of the screen and it activates the far end of it), once you get the hang of it you won't even consider buying a native android phone. I don't and it's been a year since I bought it and have been using android since the first stable builds came out a few months ago. Thinking about changing my current EU HD2 to a US cause it has 1gb ram instead of 512mb that I have now and that's just about my only problem.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] victortan001:
HTC HD2

Android 2.2 is working perfectly on my HD2. I haven't found any problems while using my phone. All the problems mentioned by m2shakiba are already fixed and included in the newest builds. Just follow the instructions and read the contents of the build properly. Most Android 2.2 builds have matured in this forum and more Android 2.3 builds are currently being made. Everything is working on Android 2.2 and battery drains are excellent. 3mA-5mA on standby without wi-fi(which allows your phone to last for more than 2 whole days). If you use your phone regularly, texting here and then, wifi for around 2 hours, it can take you through the whole day. I have a samsung galaxy phone and the battery drain is horrible. I think the devs have made a good job in porting the Android 2.2 to our phone ^^.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] die_braut:
Havent read that much bull**** a long time...

The actual NAND builds (using mdeejays DHD build v2) give 100% functionality, like every other Android phone.

Tell me one, ONE thing that does not work as it used to.

But wait, do u own an hd2?

I dont think so!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] darkony:
best buy phone on world now is HD2
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jaidedfocus:
For that price I would definitely say get it. However, I will say that if you are not too tech savy, then you may want to invest in an actual Android phone. I say this for a few reasons.

1. Have you ever jailbroken/rooted/or flashed a phone? If not it can be tricky. Its not hard by any means but you can brick it and you'll have a $100 paperweight.

2. Once you load an OS are you willing to take the time to figure out why something is not working instead of giving up? I can say that the build I have on my HD2 is almost flawless but that is not always the case.

3. Is it the international verion or the T-MoUS version? If it is the T-MoUS version, then go for it. Reason being, is that running HSPL and then Mgldr take up space needed for Android to run and install apps. The US version was blessed which 1gb of RAM so its perfect, but the International version is only 512 MB which is causing some people to have issues. If you are tech savy tho, it won't matter cause there is a fix for that.

Anyway, those are just a few things to point out. I've had my HD2 for almost a year now and the only reason I have it still is the ability to have Android on my phone. I've even decided against upgrading for another year or two for that reason.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mardurhack:
Yep...like ANY OTHER sections... Milestone, Hero, Magic, Dream, N1, Desire...etc. They're full of "problems" too. 95% of them is because of the dumminess of many users. 4% is because of hardware defects, 1% is because of isolated bugs which are solved in very short time. What about HD2? Well it almost runs GINGERBREAD perfectly...while some devices are still with 2.1 Eclair...

I replaced my Milestone with an HD2. Am I satisfied? SURE!

So please stop trolling and saying that sheeps are black just because you met one black sheep...