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[Epic 4G General] yungdizz:
I tried to upgrade to ext4 from viperom 4.0. I booted into recovery and installed the flashable zip ext4 file found here i was using clockworkdmod recovery version 2.5.1.0. Everytime i try to boot my phone it stays at samsung. i cannot do a nandroid restore. It gives me an error (sd-ext.img not found. Skipping restore of /sd-ext/.)

anyway to fix this without having to unroot?

P.S. i dont have app2sd partition anymore (i dont know is this information helps)
[Epic 4G General] spf2722:
You are gonna have to odin to stock and start over. Same thing happend to me.
[Epic 4G General] maxhax2000:
Yea d/l odin and sph-d700-dk28-8g-rel.tar.md5 file. and load sph-d700-dk28-8g-rel.tar.md5 in the PDA and thats it. then make sure u guys follow this guys thread on youtube and litraly follow every single thing he does. your problem is your trying to do the update with wrong clockwork mod. look closer and follow the directions to the "T" dont be lazy hehe good luck it helped my phone allot im happy
[Epic 4G General] yungdizz:
thanks you guys...
[Epic 4G General] yungdizz:
Is there a way to flash my ext back?? or do this without a usb cable? cause i lost mine
[Venue Pro General] pakkei:
After dealing with all the delays, non-existent support and updates and failed promises to ship the phone with next day shipping, I decided that I had tolerated enough and demanded my money back. Hopefully that is easy.

Here's why Dell Venue Pro sucks:

1. Too big. Usually big is a 'good' thing according to the trend of 2010. However, when it's big but also thick, it reminds me of my iPAQ from 12 years ago. With the Otter Case it gets even worse.

2. Horrible Camera. It's slow to activate unlike the Focus, and it takes blurry pictures even in just slightly dim light. I know that no camera phones can take pictures in dim light well, but DVP's camera is blurry even in a room during the day. My T-Mo G1 can do better than that.

3. No 4G. Just a UI change is not enough to switch phones and pay more per month as I had been using Android, and all the newest droids out there have way faster speeds that can even do video chat.

4. Keyboard is not that well integrated. Turns out the "fn" key and "shift" key are highly unpredictable, since it doesn't have any indicator that it's simply on or locked on. I mistyped more password than I did with the soft keyboard. Therefore, it's not worth the bulk.

5. Thoroughly unhackable. No SD Card slot access. No tethering trick. No screenshot trick.

6. Bottom buttons are capacitive. Looking back, the dev phone was perhaps the only great phone because they have hard buttons for Back, Windows and Search keys. Using touch buttons for these important commands make the OS experience finicky. For example, it's too easy to hit the Bing button accidentally while taking photos. It was also way too easy to got kicked out of a game - and having the resume afterwards makes things worse.

7. No confidence left for Dell Mobility, or even Dell in general: They folded the mobile division already. Their updates for Dell Aero and Dell Streak took months and months to fulfill, so how will the DVP be any different? We had already suffered through the lack of information on shipping, and I would expect firmware updates not to be any different.

8. This thing crashes. Unlike some other users here, mine crashes even when Wifi is off. The crashes are all random and not confined to Marketplace or 3rd party apps. If Dell was not so irresponsible, I would ask for an exchange instead of a return, but this is a dealbreaker to me.

One thing I am glad about it is, I had waited long enough to find out about Samsung's Omnia 8, and probably better phones to come in CES and Mobile World Congress.

Thanks, Dell, for being awful, and ruining what would be a good phone.
[Venue Pro General] bbowman:
I plan on giving Dell one more shot. I've been waiting a week now for my replacement. I'll wait for that replacement (even if it takes another week or two) and if the replacement is unstable or has any other problem then I'll return it and pick another phone.

You are right, this phone could be near perfect. It just seems that Dell rushed it.
[Venue Pro General] rsacipher:
I'm in the same boat. I love the phone except a few major problems.

1- WiFi Crashing

2- Bluetooth not staying connected

Below are WP7 issues

3- Cannot sync with Outlook

4-No mass storage

5- Cannot connect to hidden WiFi networks!!!!

I miss cut and past but can live without it I need the rest fixed if I'm going to be able to keep it.
[Venue Pro General] alodar1:
I don't know....my WiFi lags but doesn't crash. My BT is fine. Outlook syncs fine, but I've been syncing cloud stuff fine. Storage, I have 16gigs. Will I use more..who knows or cares. Hidden WiFi...something strange about that. Its hidden for a reason, if dvp could see it, ITT wouldn't be hidden. Seems like homey reasons to quit to me. But then again , you're not me. I got what I expected. Is it 100% perfect? Nope...but I wasn't expecting it to be. I wonder if iphone4 people are returning it because of the alarm...to me the best reason to return a phone is...i don't like it. All other reasons show up on most other phones too... Just my opinion
[Venue Pro General] lemonspeakers:
this phone has more problems now that i think about it. but mines a keeper. i like the windows UI and the look of the dvp. its rare and you cant just buy it at, say, tmobile stores. =D
[Venue Pro General] Yelpy:
I love the phone but you know as much as I love it I can't use a phone that doesn't work. When I pay $550 for a phone I think the least it can do is work so as much as it kills me I called them last night and told them I want my money back. I gave them a week or so to see if they would give some responce to the problems posted on the forums but nothing which means they're not going to fix the problems or they're going to be real slow about it. And the whole 30days thing you guys have over here means I cant really wait around to find out so I'll have my money back thanks!

The problems I had with the phone were numerous:

- WiFi crashing constantly

- bluetooth constantly disconnecting from car kit

- 3G signal loss and complete network loss

- white noise in earphones

...and then to top it all off, and this is a WP7 issue more so than a DVP issue - however the marketplace works and because I used my old windows live id to setup the phone, M$ basically still think I'm in Ireland for whatever reason and as a result I can't download any of the good stuff eg: Netflix, LastFM etc... and some apps I download are for european region instead of US and so are completely useless to me.

Anyway all in all I had no choice but to get a refund. Bummer!
[Venue Pro General] vastcomm:
This venue pro will be going back for the same reasons which have been found in this post.

1. No 4G. Just a UI change is not enough to switch phones and pay more per month as I had been using Android, and all the newest droids out there have way faster speeds that can even do video chat.

2. Keyboard is not that well integrated. Turns out the "fn" key and "shift" key are highly unpredictable, since it doesn't have any indicator that it's simply on or locked on. I mistyped more password than I did with the soft keyboard. Therefore, it's not worth the bulk.

3. Thoroughly unhackable. No SD Card slot access. No tethering trick. No screenshot trick.

4. Bottom buttons are capacitive. Looking back, the dev phone was perhaps the only great phone because they have hard buttons for Back, Windows and Search keys. Using touch buttons for these important commands make the OS experience finicky. For example, it's too easy to hit the Bing button accidentally while taking photos. It was also way too easy to got kicked out of a game - and having the resume afterwards makes things worse.

5. No confidence left for Dell Mobility, or even Dell in general: They folded the mobile division already. Their updates for Dell Aero and Dell Streak took months and months to fulfill, so how will the DVP be any different? We had already suffered through the lack of information on shipping, and I would expect firmware updates not to be any different.

6. This thing crashes. Unlike some other users here, mine crashes even when Wifi is off. The crashes are all random and not confined to Marketplace or 3rd party apps. If Dell was not so irresponsible, I would ask for an exchange instead of a return, but this is a dealbreaker to me.

I no longer feel confident with DELL. Furthermore, I dont like how we were treated throughout this launch, especially in a economy when spending 500+ dollars on a item is a luxury. I have purchased phones outright before and have never gone through a process like this.

I wanted to believe that this phone could of been more but if I wait until my 30 days are up I will be s### out of luck. I'll see what CES has up its sleeve.

This venue is definitely going back unless something miraculously happens with DELL or Microsoft regarding the phones OS. I doubt it though. :rolleyes:
[Venue Pro General] rsacipher:
The phone syncs with Exchange not Outlook, 16GB is good for storage if all you want is music and videos, forget if you want other files and there is no explorer to find files anyways.

My company hides their SSID as many companies do, if you have the settings you can connect and my WM5 phones would connect but I can't with the latest and greatest from MS while people at my company with Android and iPhones connect with no issues.

For the money I spent I wasn't expecting a beta unit because this thing was not ready for primetime.
[Venue Pro General] pjfan75:
I'm keeping my 8GB model. I don't have any crashing issues whether or not WiFi is on.

It would be nice if the cam were better and there wasn't some slight hissing through headphones during quiet segments of music, but neither of these are deal breakers to me. Supposedly Dell is working on updating the cam software, but again, not a huge deal to me.
[Venue Pro General] bernaserra:
It it going back.

Dell support is no good and rude, most don't even know what the DVP is. Every step of my dealing with dell has been a pain from getting my phone to the 4 hours it took trying to get it activated with the rep from dell who kept trying to get me off the line so he could "call me back."

The phone is very nice but so not worth the hassle. Dell has given me the worst customer service I have ever had, no way in hell I am gonna be stuck dealing with them for the next 2 years.

Mine for some reason would not turn on unless I popped the battery multiple times. Kept losing service on the 2g/3g switch, photos were absolute trash.

I will miss what could of been, but this thing is going back. On to my iPhone.
[Venue Pro General] Lyyteskin:
Thanks To You All

Hi Ladies and Gents

I'm fairly new to these forums and just wanted to say thanks to you all for the great feed back on the DVP!! I'm from Canada, and as you all know we can't get the device up here unless we provide a US address...I've been working around this issue which I finally resolved, and now for the past 2 weeks or so have been going back and forth between the DVP or a Nexxus S. I soooo love the form factor of the DVP, but have decided that it's to risky to take a chance on getting a somewhat flawless device to work up here...it's going to take a lot of time and effort to get either of these devices, so I want to make the correct choice the first time....I to have had issues calling Dell just to try and figure out how to ship the darn thing, and have been bounced around so many times!!! Their CS is garbage...none of them know anything about the device!! I was willing to get it even with the RAM issues and the no multitasking/cut and paste, but all the other issues are just to great of a hurdle to jump. I know the Nexus S has it issues but it being pure Google, I know the support will be there...

Thanks Again for making a very hard decision that much easier, and good luck to you all whether you keep your DVP or send it back!!

Cheers!!
[Venue Pro General] eyan15:
This is not true, there is a symbol next to the (left) battery indicator, an arrow for caps and keep pressing the arrow button for caps lock, the icon changes

same way there is an icon for fn key
[Venue Pro General] pakkei:
Thanks for the tip. I was used to Android where the indicator is right at the cursor.
[Venue Pro General] ruprick:
Already shipped it back in favor of my nexus S. Got tired of the constant crashes and decided I didn't want to be an early adopter of W7
[Venue Pro General] alodar1:
think its interesting, well actually I think its funny really, and anyone on this thread with a long device history on this forum can attest,the actual reasons people give for liking or not liking a device. I extend that comment to the iPhone and nexus brands, as well as others. For example:

Crashes: every phone crashes. Everyone. Read the Engadget review about the crash macine....sorry , the nexus s. they all crash somewhere

..period

Camera: they all suck. If you're using a Dell but expect a Nikon , then your expectation sucks. Some are better, but none are good.

Configuration: don't even sit there and tell me what great configuration schemes Android has. The configuration is just as spacey on those devices too. How easy is it to get hotmail on iPhone? As easy as Google maps on wp7?

Cloud stuff: huh, what? Bottom line is it takes understanding and preparation. Once done, its done. Don't trust the Microsoft cloud, but trust the Google cloud...good luck with that.

Support: did someone sat Google support? I call bull****.

Best reason for returning the Dvp I have read so far is, "I tried the Nexus S, and it worked better for me". Great answer!!! Guy just stood up and said it. Cool. Not some bs answer like WiFi crashing...someone will find you over in some other forum posting about your other new phone crashing ...you know its true.

BTW, I heard the iPhone alarm still doesn't work, and what's this I'm reading about the latest undocumented feature on the Nexus. And the Incredible is doing what?? Droid!!! Great commercials.

I just like my Dell. I like my HD7 too. If you don't,that's fine...just watch the excuses...sorry, I mean reasons.

I want the one with the WiFi and most gb's.

Sorry for the rant...check out the other forums here and see if what I say isn't true!
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Classic and spot on! The DVP isn't perfect, but its not the first, and won't be the last buggy phone to be released, and certainly if someone isn't happy with it they should return it. I tried an hd7, didn't like it and returned it, no fuss no muss. And I should say, I'm happy enough with mine and am keeping it, worst case scenario I use it for six months then get some other wp7 AWS device, if there ever is one.
[Venue Pro General] bernaserra:
Lol, this is your best point? An alarm clock?

How about WinPho 7 alarm not overriding the music volume and not even going off?

As for crashes I can count the amount of time my iPhone has crashed on 1 hand and the amount of time my nexus one has crashed on 2. I apologize if I want something to work when I buy it. The DVP wouldn't even power on in some cases without pulling the battery. I'm sorry but if the phone is a headache just to turn on then I don't want it. Perhaps you disagree, but there is no need to come in here on a high horse trying to dictate what we should expect from a phones camera, or general usage.

Do I expect a nikon?

No I expect something that can take a decent shot ala the iPhone/Nexus 1/Nokia N8. Obviously there are phones on the market capable of taking great shots,so why should I as a consumer expect lesser performance? If you like a half-ass phone then so be it.

It the DVP the worst phone on the market?

No there is much worst out there, but once again there is much better and as a consumer I am going to go with what is best. I returned mine and hopefully another company gets it right eventually. But honestly the argument that there are buggier phones is pathetic.
[Venue Pro General] pakkei:
With this kind of reasoning you might as well be happy buying a Vertu. ;)

"Hey, this thing takes photos, and can read gmail too!!!!!! I just like my Vertu. If you don't like it, you have a problem!!"

All that I said was that the DVP is bigger than I need, and the keyboard is not as advantageous as I thought it to be. The camera is objectively worse than many camera phones out there, and Dell does not inspire confidence on whether there will even be firmware fixes or not. It's all pretty logical, IMO.

Seriously, don't get offended when people compare it with iPhone or Nexus S. I already tried to be fanboy-sensitive by comparing it to Samsung Focus. But if my post induces potential buyer's remorse on you, it's not my problem. This thread is to be shared with those who already had our remorse.
[Venue Pro General] gshocker:
I love this phone but am hoping that they fix the issues. Most of the bugs that people have should be fixable with a replacement device. The crazy thing is that the initial Engineering Sample that I had seemed to have the least issues. The 16GB model I have in my hands now crashes all the time so I am hoping that it is just a bad phone and when I get my replacement it works as expected.

I expect many will return their phones because of the whole exchange process which is frustrating to say the least.
[Venue Pro General] pessimistic observer:
personally as a non standard smartphone user i plan to keep the device barring hardware malfunction

not really a big talker or texter and i dont mind the crashes as long as they only happen once a day

i can see how a person might be upset though if they spent half a grand on a phone they can only use on tmobile that has issues

glad i didnt buy off contract even though ill be stuck on tmo for 2 years i can always get another phone that uses tmo bands at full price
[Venue Pro General] vince2398:
For the ones waiting for a replacement, have you received it yet? If so, was wondering if they are new or are they refurbs? I am still waiting for my replacement since last week of Dec. Thanks
[Venue Pro General] canadariot2312:
About the camera thing people complain about, just get a Nikon or a Canon. Seriously.

Unless the LG Optimus 7 (physical buttons, a lot thiner, LG apps, has metal build quality) hits T-Mobile shelves, no, I will probably just keep it.

I like WP7's UI and I see a lot of potential in the OS. With that being said, I have a Nexus One which has no problems (besides not getting Gingerbread), and I don't really care about any of the other phones on T-Mobile's network (maybe the G2). Plus, no lag.
[Venue Pro General] gshocker:
I called today to find out the status of the exchange and nothing had changed. They had no idea when the exchange would go out and had no way of finding out. I was told that once it was exchanged I could no longer return the unit. That seemed a bit odd but I was able to get her to cancel the exchange and get the phone returned.

I still really like the phone (based on a few weeks of use) but just want one that doesnt lock up. Considering ordering another one off the site and crossing my fingers that this time it works as advertised.
[Venue Pro General] Silvergun:
I am also waiting on my replacement Device, and my request was put in back on the 23rd of Dec. :mad:

If anyone has received their replacement DVP(s) please let us know.
[Venue Pro General] patrickk:
Requested my replacement device on the 16th (recevied on the 15th with a scratched screen). Still waiting. I'm really considering doing what a previous poster said and cancelling the exchange and just returning. This is just frustrating. So far the issues i've had with mine:

- Daily lock ups

- Sketchy radio reception. Drops the signal when switching between 2g/3g (and it does it far more often than my old HD2 did)

- Awful hiss when using the headphone jack - listening to Zune music is a no go

- Dust trapped under the screen

I played with a Samsung Focus today. Not bad actually. And considering it's free on Amazon Wireless (I paid > $500 for an unlocked phone through Dell because Tmo won't let you keep your number and switch from EM to EM+), I might put up with being on contract. Even if I want to get out of the contract after 181 days (the length of time Amazon requires you to be on contract w/o penalty), AT&T's penalty is only $265. Not bad for a phone that's "on contract" for only 6 months.
[Venue Pro General] bernaserra:
I am so sick of this argument that is stupid reasoning. If I don't like this camera then I will just buy a phone that takes better pics. Are there no phones that take better pics out there? Yes there is the Nokia N8, iPhone, Samsung omnia 7 and supposedly the Focus. When you start buying phones for everyone then you can start dictating what kind of performance we can expect from the camera.

The best camera is the one that is always with you and I don't see why I would need to lug my SLR with me just to take a decent photo when my iPhone can do it perfectly fine. Same goes for my old nexus one. Please people drop the whole "get a Nikon or Canon" mentality. If you accept crap then that is all these companies will continually give you.

Personally I vote with my dollars and my dollars went to a phone that takes great photos without having a Nikon or Canon on me....
[Venue Pro General] rsacipher:
I had the original Touch HD not the HD2 and it's camera was a lot better than the DVP or even the HD2, I'm not sure why but it seems like camera images haven't gotten much better over the last few years except a few phone like the high end Nokia's.

I'm waiting for my replacement and am seriously thinking about cancelling it and maybe getting the HD 7.
[Venue Pro General] Silvergun:
Dell's support team will try to give you the run around if you attempt to cancel the replacement for a full refund.

I have been waiting on my replacement DVP since the 23rd of Dec...
[Venue Pro General] bernaserra:
Don't see why any of this would be a surprise after the runaround they gave everyone since this phone was released.
[Venue Pro General] gshocker:
I gave up on Dell and got my return label via email yesterday. The overall frustration with the fact that no one seems to be getting their replacement units while Dell looks to be still sending new units out to people is a bit odd.. But.. I called my local MS store where I got my first DVP (engineering sample) and they had a replacement for me if I wanted to turn in the HD7 they have given me as a replacement when the first batch of replacements were all broken.

I decided to give it a try and went down there to check it out.. Well almost 24 hours later and no lockups or other strange issues. The box was different in the face that it had specs on the bottom of it while the one I got from Dell had no specs on the bottom. They told me that if I had problems with this one of course I could just bring it back to them.

So far I am quite happy to 1) have the phone that I wanted and 2) not have to deal with Dell directly. Unit from Dell is in a box and will be returned later today.
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
had an original exchanged order placed on Dec 27. called yesterday and said i want a completly new unit new battery new back case new sim, they canceled my 1st exchange and wow new exchanged shipped in 4 hours via overnight will be here by 3pm pacific will update and tell if its refurb or not
[Venue Pro General] Silvergun:
I put in my replacement request on the 23rd of Dec and it still shows up as in Production, so how is it that other people are getting replacement units shipped out when their requests were more recent?

I need to call these guys and raise a stink, this is ridiculous. :mad: