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[EVO Shift 4G General] aph:
It's like the Centro to Palm's Treo. Lower end phone. 800mhz processor. No Android 3.0.
[EVO Shift 4G General] afazel:
Some people, I swear...

I'm not saying you should drop your Evo for it, but it isn't a lower-end phone. Go play with a G2 and you see the performance of the Shift.

Sent from my phone with the geebees
[EVO Shift 4G General] the5ifty:
....after all this u just read the #s instead of capabilities
[EVO Shift 4G General] edgemaster191:
You guys take it so personally because someone may give up the Evo for the Shift. I think ok going to make the switch as well. I want a real keyboard.

And who cares about the dual core phones. Six months from now and there is a dual core phone I want, ill buy it.

Why do people feel the need to attack the opinions of others. Also those of you saying its a downgrade... go do some research and come back. Smaller screen is not a downgrade...its a preference and its been said countless times thy the cpu is better than then the cpu in the evo.

If you don't like the phone, no one says you have to buy it. Just stop being rude and attacking people who are getting one. Isn't the point here to get a device YOU want and not what someone says you should get? If that were the case we would all have iphones

Sent from my Evo4G from wherever i happen to be standing.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
You voiced your opinion why can you but others can't? And yes the smaller screen is a HUGE downgrade to ME.that's my opinion.i would totally get the shift if it had a larger screen considering the power of the thing and all in all the phone looks really cool we will see maybe craigslist will harbor a trade.
[EVO Shift 4G General] edgemaster191:
i'm not saying no one can have an opinion...where did that come from? my point is discus why or why not your getting something without out right telling people they're foolish for not waiting. you also have people throwing out false claims about performance when the performance question has been answered several times.

i'm also not telling anyone what they should or shouldn't do. i love my evo and plan on keeping it so i can play with the dev. roms, and use the shift for my daily driver.
[EVO Shift 4G General] craigbailey1986:
Just wanted to say I am not going to get the shift because I don't quite think a phone running faster is a big upgrade from the evo.. further more it does seem as if your a gamer you should look into it...

But on another note please stop saying just because it has the same internals as one phone it will run the same.... seen many other fall short of their counter part!

GET WHAT YOU WANT PPL!
[EVO Shift 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
I had just woke up and was a bit edgy I apologize hadn't fully woken up yet and am getting over being sick ha..i really wish I could afford to buu a phone like that...hopefully once college is over and I'm established I can!
[EVO Shift 4G General] the5ifty:
Hey stupid question...does anyone know if there is a place for a wrist strap tether thing? Makes it easier to get my hero outta my pocket. It wont be a deal breaker but a welcome addition.
[EVO Shift 4G General] stunya:
ill likely be jumping up from a hero as well. i was planning on holding out for a dual core, but the hero is getting very dated and it seems like this is a very capable phone.

if they continue to offer the original evo for 99, that might be even more attractive!
[EVO Shift 4G General] phatmanxxl:
I too would leave the EVO for the shift if it had a 4"+ screen.
[EVO Shift 4G General] edgemaster191:
no worries my friend :) i'm having a craptastic week myself.

i'm hoping the CM team gets their hands on this thing and get CM7 ported over :-)
[EVO Shift 4G General] T3hPWN:
only way id leave my baby is if she had a 4.3 SAMOLED and dual core also bigger battery even though it will get good life with dual core. i feel my evo was a damn good investment its soon to go on a year and its still a fighter amongst the newer phones the community that supports it is very active and new roms after a release are almost instant to me thats what makes a good phone not just the hardware and software but the support behind it. Hope for u guys sake the shift doesn't end up like the epic.

something like this!

http://gizmodo.com/5725053/samsungs-sgh+i997-uh-why-wasnt-this-awesome-phone-the-new-nexus

or this:

http://gizmodo.com/5725505/motorolas-atrix-android-phone-has-two-cores-and-is-atts-fastest
[EVO Shift 4G General] edgemaster191:
trust me that thought is lingering in the back of my mind :-/

as long as it gets CM i'll be happy
[EVO Shift 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
this and

OT

But nice specs on your PC! :D I will one day have enough resources to build such a beast...I bet is cant run crysis on full settings though :3
[EVO Shift 4G General] edgemaster191:
haha thanks :-D it holds it's own with Crysis. everything on high at 1920x1080 works perfect, it's when you bump it up to "ultra" that things get sticky :-/

everything else i throw at it runs perfectly on high/ultra

Back on topic - my local radio shack confirmed getting the Shift tomorrow but "they don't know what time they will get them in and don't know how many"

helpful i know....

might take a drive to a larger store after work, i can't stand most the guys working at our local store, a friend of mine works there but she won't be working tomorrow :-(
[EVO Shift 4G General] jmeridith:
My pre is on its last leg, I wanted a bigger phone but smaller than the evolution. Ill check it out. If I need a huge screen I have a gtab
[EVO Shift 4G General] phatmanxxl:
I was tempted to start a new thread like a noob, but this link about the shift should answer everything you might want to know about the phone.

http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...c-evo-shift-4g-is-htc-evo-4g-s-little-sibling
[EVO Shift 4G General] Palomino0513:
I have always wished for this phone to have a keyboard, I guess someone was listening lol
[EVO Shift 4G General] the5ifty:
Did anybody go out and get 1 today from radio shack or best buy?
[EVO Shift 4G General] epitaphromance:
i've read its not available till the 9th
[EVO Shift 4G General] raymond4:
Yeah I got one today at radio shack
[EVO Shift 4G General] jcha:
What do you think of it? I'm thinking about upgrading to this from my Hero and I've passed on the EVO and Epic.
[EVO Shift 4G General] raymond4:
I love it the keyboard is nice and the phone is fast
[EVO Shift 4G General] jesusice:
Got mine from Best Buy today. Upgraded from the Moment and loving it! So.... how do I root this thing??

Sent from my PG06100
[EVO Shift 4G General] raymond4:
I'm trying to find out if we could root it
[EVO Shift 4G General] datajosh:
Sorry you were stuck with the Moment for that long! :D I haven't seen anything about root for the EVO Shift yet but since the hardware is similar to the Desire Z and G2, it shouldn't take long to happen.
[EVO Shift 4G General] cosine83:
Try using Unrevoked 3.31 on the Shift and see if it works. It won't hurt anything if it doesn't.
[EVO Shift 4G General] adamr240:
I too went from moment to evo shift today. I got the only one in town. :D

I thin its great. Got 1609 on quadrant advanced.
[EVO Shift 4G General] jesusice:
Z4 root worked for temp root access. Maybe when the toddler's napping I can try Unrevoked. Thanks for the tip. My previous phone was the Moment so this is just a little different.

Is root only being temporary the reason everytime I remove the stock Facebook app it comes back when I reboot? I've tried with Titanium and Root Explorer.

Sent from my PG06100
[EVO Shift 4G General] cosine83:
You won't be able to truly delete anything until you've unlocked NAND with a full root.
[EVO Shift 4G General] BrandoKC:
I just tried Unrevoked and no surprise, "Device "Speedy" is not supported at this time."
[EVO Shift 4G General] Mstrowe:
I'm a woman I got a Evo.

the shift looks inferior compared to the Evo plain and simple. Why would I downgrade.

Sent from my Evo Sprinkled with Myn's Warm Goodness.
[EVO Shift 4G General] BrandoKC:
Universal Androot is a no go too.

As far as inferior I say we say different instead.

Look at the benchmarks. The Shift takes the Evo's lunch money.
[EVO Shift 4G General] ben.whisenhunt:
Truely, fastest phone on the sprint floor, love it.... best gaming phone for sure! Owns the evo on COD
[EVO Shift 4G General] david11c:
I bought the Shift 4G today to replace my wife's Hero CDMA. I might make it my phone and give her my EVO. I am mainly waiting to see what happens with root and CyanogenMod.

It is a quicker phone and it has the keyboard. I don't really care about the FFC. I would like it to have a bigger screen but that isn't a deal breaker for me.
[EVO Shift 4G General] EricSS619:
Just got my girl a slide and I must say I didnt realize hom much my evo lagged until I used the slide :(. I have slide envy now and where are the slide forums by the way?
[EVO Shift 4G General] swaze:
Good thing benchmarks means a phone is good or not. Lol those benchmarks make the phone do more than the evo huh?
[EVO Shift 4G General] BrandoKC:
No but they are indicative of the phones performance and if you go back and read I was simply pointing out that Shift is no slouch and is not inferior to the Evo.

Sent from my HTC Evo Shift 4G
[EVO Shift 4G General] Crossrocker:
In what way are some of you saying shift is inferior? Screen size is a preference and keyboard is an extra.

A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
[EVO Shift 4G General] VampireRollen:
I just got the shift yesterday at radio shack. It's a major improvement over the Hero. I liked the Evo when i first saw it and i also considered buying the Epic, but I'm very glad I waited, this phone is very nice and perfect for playing those Gameloft games that the Hero can't play. :)

PS z4root for wouldnt work for me. How'd you guys get it to work? It just stays at the "Running exploit in order to obtain root access" screen for me.
[EVO Shift 4G General] sidepart:
If someone could download rockplayer and try to play a 1-2GB 720p mkv. I'd like to know if there's any audio sync issues or if the video lags.

Otherwise, I don't feel like it's a big enough jump forward. I'm really disappointed that they cut the screen down and that there's no kickstand. I honestly just wanted an evo with a keyboard for playing my emulators and working with shell programs. Think I'll save my premier upgrade.
[EVO Shift 4G General] BrandoKC:
I'll try to get to that tonight.

I can definately see not upgrading from the Evo to the Shift.

I am coming from the Hero and from the G1 prior to that, so as far as I'm concerned this phone could cripple Steve Jobs with mind control.
[EVO Shift 4G General] plmiller0905:
I got both the Evo, which I had for a while now and a Evo Shift which I grabbed yesterday. And I must say the Shift is faster than the Evo. Yes, the Evo has a bigger screen, HDMI out, FFC, kickstand, 8MP camera etc. But for me personally, other than the camera and the screen obviously, the rest are features that I VERY seldom use. The Evo is a great phone and I'm not knocking it. I've owned many phones including every iPhone, Epic 4G, Droid,and many more phones. But when I heard about the Evo Shift coming out, I wanted to grab one.

And when I got my Evo Shift yesterday, I was like wow. The size of it is just right. It fits comfortable in the hand. The screen is very clear, but not as clear as the Epic 4G screen but IMO better than the Evo. When I had the Epic 4G, I took it back after having it only 2 days. The phone had a cheapy feel to it and the keyboard was horrible. I thought I'd never get another phone with a slide out keyboard. Man was I wrong. The Shift's keyboard is the total opposite, it's excellent. The buttons are spaced apart nicely and the button response is geat.

When talking about the cameras, I'm no photographer, but some of the pics I've taken with my Shift came out better than the ones taken with my Evo. Remember a while back, some people was making posts that because of the 2nd flash on the Evo a lot of pics that people were taking, came out very bad.

And when it comes to speed, all I can say is wow. The Shift blows the Evo away and that's on stock. The Evo has to be rooted and on a custom rom to get the speeds of the Shift.

I ran quadrant on both my Evo and my Shift and the results were:

Evo on Fresh latest rom: 1292 Evo Shift: Stock 1430

Another point I want to make also is that on My Shift, I get service in certain areas wheres on my Evo I wouldn't. For instance when I'm at work, on my Evo I can't get any service unless I go outside or go near a window. However on my Shift, I get about 1-3 bars of service and that's all over the entire building.

Both of these are great phones and I think that everything comes down to personal preference. Go check them both out then decide from there.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Compusmurf:
Just saw a review of the camera. The evo's cam just got smoked. WOW! Like folks say it's not the # of megapixels, but the sensor.

Oh, and the same review compared the 720p camcorder and said while the video was OK, the audio totally blew...

NO dedicated cam button.

Hmmm, don't use the kickstand, never even tried the FFC, but miss the keyboard, but will I miss the bigger screen more????
[EVO Shift 4G General] androiddummy:
Since a lot of you guys seem to be very focused on numbers, here are a couple. I got the EVO Shift the other day and ran back to run benchmarks with two my friends. One has an Epic, the other has an EVO.

Quadrant Scores

EVO Shift: 1600

EVO: 1100

Epic: 980

Linpack Scores

EVO Shift: 34(ish)

EVO: 30(ish)

Epic: 10(ish)

The smaller processor means NOTHING.
[EVO Shift 4G General] fifedogg:
I agree. I got 1599 on quadrant and 34.01 on linpack. This phone rocks! Soo f'in smooth and screen soo clear, I'm blown away how fast this thing is :) I can't wait to OC it.
[EVO Shift 4G General] ttown:
I just picked up the HTC EVO Shift a couple of days ago. I have been a long time Windows Phone/PDA owner since 2000. my last phone was a ... Touch Pro.

The reason I chose the HTC EVO Shift was due to its smaller size and hopefully better batter life (smaller screen, slower processor). The screen size is perfect for me and the overall phone size is manageable.

After fully draining the battery and charging up I got almost 8 hours of battery life according to my battery screen. After the second charge the battery life dropped considerably. Since I took the battery out to get my SD card during this cycle, I don't have the exact time, but it was somewhere around 4 hours. I have the phone back on the charger and will turn it on Airplane mode to see if it makes a difference.

I do have a couple of gripes on the design. First, the phone is navy blue and not black. I think the phone would look a lot better in black! Second, there is a gap around the screen. When your finger goes off the screen you do feel it catch. At first I thought it was just my phone, but it definitely designed to have the space around the screen as every phone I picked up has it. Both of these are minimal gripes, but could have made the phone that much better.

All in all I am happy with the phone. I do like the Android operating system and its ability to be easily customized. I will continue to monitor my battery consumption and hope to see it increase. As I spend more time with the phone, I am sure I will root and hack to my heart's contempt.
[EVO Shift 4G General] plmiller0905:
I been using my Shift non stop since I got it Thursday and I got about 14 hours of battery life on one full charge.

This was sent shifting on my EVO Shift 4G using Tapatalk
[EVO Shift 4G General] BrandoKC:
I'm averaging 10 hours on very heavy use. I would imagine once I get over having a new phone and use it moderately the battery life will increase substantially

Sent from my HTC Evo Shift 4G
[EVO Shift 4G General] xlGmanlx:
lets hope HTC doesn't make the same mistake they made with the evo
[EVO Shift 4G General] Bigjim1488:
I got to play with a shift today and damn it's a sexy phone no doubt about that but the evo just feels right in my hand. I'm a big guy with big hands so me and the evo just click together. I can't knock the shift, HTC did a nice job with this one. It's just not enough to make me leave the evo. I'm going to wait it out some more till the next "evo killer " comes out.
[EVO Shift 4G General] josh995:
No, I will not be *down*grading to the Evo Shift.
[EVO Shift 4G General] cosine83:
Just picked one up today at a Sprint store and this little guy flies! I really like the keyboard and the new Sense on it plus landscape Sense is awesome! Everything seems to really be a lot smoother than the Evo, so far. I had an Evo w/ Myn's RLS5 on it.
[EVO Shift 4G General] BrandoKC:
Yeah, my friend with an Evo was completely salivating over my Shift, but if it makes you sleep better believe that.
[EVO Shift 4G General] DWake014:
About the battery life I've been using it moderately since 8 this morning and I'm at 47%. By moderately I've been using WiFi the last hour or so, made a few calls, played with 4G (which is AWESOME!) for a couple minutes, and texted and surfed the internet during breaks at work.
[EVO Shift 4G General] Compusmurf:
It's not a "down" grade by any means. It's closer to a cross grade where you swap FFC and bigger screen for keyboard, slightly faster processor and a surprisingly much better camera.

Depends on what you're looking for in a phone. Since I use mine for business with quite a bit of data entry, I highly suspect the keyboard is going to win me over.
[EVO Shift 4G General] josh995:
They basically took the Evo and put a smaller screen on it, and a keyboard. In my opinion, it's a downgrade, again, *in my opinion.*

If they had put a dual core, or it had some crazy cool feature the Evo doesn't already have, then maybe not.

Also, I sleep just fine, thank you. I don't need an electronic device to justify my sleep pattern. Thanks for your concern though.

But if you think many Evo users are going to be salivating over your shift, then, well, good for you.
[EVO Shift 4G General] BrandoKC:
Also they put a better processor and gpu in it. No one is bagging on your Evo, but give credit to the Shift it is anything but a downgrade.

I'm glad you sleep fine, but making a point to post in this thread about your "better" phone shows you have some inadequecy issues.

Sent from my HTC Evo Shift 4G
[EVO Shift 4G General] josh995:
I never said my phone was better. I just said I consider it a downgrade, for me. I like my big screen. If Sprint had a 5 inch phone, like the streak, I'd get it in a second.

I don't think the shift is a bad phone by any means, it's just not my type of phone, at all.

*waves truce flag*
[EVO Shift 4G General] ttown:
I'm on my 3rd cycle and it looks like it is draining pretty fast again. I am at 1 hour and at 70% already. Are you running your phone stock or using anything to conserve battery?

My phone is avg around 2-3 bars which could be the suspect.
[EVO Shift 4G General] h_townesp785:
not a bad phone bought one for my girlfriend and she likes it but yes more of a womans type phone EVO is still number one for me and the battery life is just dodgy sometimes on her phone so far thats her only complaint
[EVO Shift 4G General] Bigjim1488:
Hey we are all android fans here. No need to get on each others cases about this. Now if everyone was switching to go to an apple device then I would be offended LOL

Sent from my Evo while i should be working
[EVO Shift 4G General] cbrown245:
Well I love my EVO , I will have to see the shift hands on before I make my decision , I can't upgrade till July anyways so gots some time . There are so many mods I have done to my EVO I'm not sure if I wanna start all over .
[EVO Shift 4G General] edgemaster191:
haha agreed :-D

as for the Shift, i'm at 43% after 11 hours, and spent a good amount of time today in 3G only (wifi off) with my bluetooth headset connected and was streaming music quite a bit over bluetooth (from my MP3 collection, not internet radio) and a few phone calls, handful of texts and some facebook updates. not to shabby at all.

my Evo doesn't do well on 3G only, i get about 12 hours with my seidio 3500mah battery while on 3G only, no wake lock issues, no bluetooth and light usage.
[EVO Shift 4G General] BrandoKC:
Gotcha, I can understand where you're coming from now.

My apologies for getting bent out of shape. :)
[EVO Shift 4G General] 2k4mach:
might get it for my daughter, but im sticking with my evo for the time being
[EVO Shift 4G General] jesziicuh:
I would love a keyboard but at the same time I love how sleek and nice my evo is not to crazy about the slider and I also love my huge screen I'm defin sticking with my evo
[EVO Shift 4G General] fifedogg:
You should use spare parts and see whats running in the backround to kill your battery soo fast. I got 18 hours today on her and used her quite a bit including using 4g for a few minutes.
[EVO Shift 4G General] 00_MACKIE_00:
You ladies have fun with your Evo Jr with a sissy pad . lol
[EVO Shift 4G General] plmiller0905:
Don't hate...lol

This was sent shifting on my EVO Shift 4G using Tapatalk
[EVO Shift 4G General] BrandoKC:
Just because your phone is twice the size of Peyton Manning's forehead :D
[EVO Shift 4G General] ttown:
I'll look into it. I am also looking into *#*#4636#*#*

Yesterday I only got a little over 2 hours on my 3rd cycle. This is very discouraging:mad:

So far this has been my experience:

1st charge: 8 hours

2nd charge: 4 hours

3rd charge: 2 hours

My phone is not getting a signal for a high % of the time. I charged my phone all night, woke up and my phone with out a signal % was 100%. I am going to try CDMA only and see if that helps. Any suggestions are welcome.

I average 1-4 bars on my phone. Not the best reception, but it hasn't affected 3 other Sprint phones I have had.
[EVO Shift 4G General] BrandoKC:
Not to be an @ss but do you have bluetooth, wifi, etc turned off?

If you have a lot of things running that aren't in use they can be vampires.
[EVO Shift 4G General] jonnythan:
I've got a question about the Shift. I just played with 2 different devices at 2 different Sprint stores. I could not get auto-rotation working in anything.

Browser: Opened in portrait mode, went to landscape when I opened the keyboard (not when I rotated), and would not go back to portrait at all.

Camera: Landscape only

Google search: Landscape only

Footprints: Portrait only. Only app where I saw a portrait keyboard. Did not auto rotate.

Gallery: Landscape only.

Market: Landscape only.

I made sure "Autorotate" was selected in Settings. Is this just how it's designed? I noticed there is no widget for turning autorotate on and off. This could be a dealbreaker.
[EVO Shift 4G General] BrandoKC:
Mine rotates to landscape with the keyboard closed for everything except for the homescreen.

When I open the keyboard the home screen will rotate too.

Sent from my HTC Evo Shift 4G
[EVO Shift 4G General] jesusice:
Mine autorotates just fine in all of those apps. Portrait, landscape and upside down landscape. I haven't tested it in Footprints yet but I don't even know what that app does, lol.

Sent from my PG06100
[EVO Shift 4G General] jonnythan:
That's so weird. I thought there was something wrong with the phone, but then I went to another store and it did the exact same thing.
[EVO Shift 4G General] ttown:
No worries BrandoKC. Those are valid questions, but I have turned off 4G, GPS and Wifi. I reduced my sync schedules to every 2 hours for mail and facebook.

I put the phone into airplane mode the last charge. This time I turned the phone completely off unplugged when the light turned green and plugged back in. I am going to repeat this until the light will only turn green.

If this works, I hope this process is to condition the battery only, and not something that has to be done every time.
[EVO Shift 4G General] ttown:
When you say 10 hours, is this what your battery screen reads (run time), or are you calculating the time you take it off the charger and when it needs to be charged?