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[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] vittogn:
Interesting.

Does sense affect it even if I'm using ADW Launcher?

Have I to expect an overall improvement when I'll flash a non Sense rom?

Thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] eatjello:
even if you use ADW launcher, sense is still running in the background.

I don't know if YOU personally will notice a difference, but i noticed a substantial difference. The rom im using doesn't use sense at all, it only uses ADW, so nothing is in the background. the UI is the same as the G2. just without the bloatware, etc.

With the 1300 mah battery, i would be able to get maybe 12 hours of use, with sense. when i put the no sense rom, i got over a day. and i had disabled most of the background crap on the sense rom, and then did the same with the no sense.

worth a shot IMO
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] tbalden:
Good thread. Ordered the mugen, can't wait to try it. How much real mAhs does it have? They tend to overrate those. Is it around 1700 net mAhs?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] chobie:
Mugen 1800 mAh

At 3% still :)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] vittogn:
Incredible. I guess moderate usage. Wich rom are u using?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] tbalden:
It should be a cm7 based with gb icons and the graph, but that's my guess. Running it myself, it looks very similar by default. :)

Maybe which kernel is interesting question too.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] chobie:
Yup just with moderate use. I use Gingerbread v1.4 and the kernel that came with it. And I don't use data via carrier, just by wifi.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] HotShotAzn:
Either way, that's pretty awesome battery life!
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] G1_enthusiast:
anyone using virtuous rom and the mugen battery? if so hows battery what you getting out of it?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] etjrowe:
Been getting amazing battery life with the Mugen. Used to have to top off before leaving work everyday around 3pm. Now I consistently make it from 5am till 9 or 10pm before needing to charge. Running CM6 OCed to 1300 with only screen off profile. Pretty heavy data and wifi use and texting, very little calling.

Sent from my rooted space banana using telekinesis.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Queue515:
Yay! My mugen shipped yesterday. They are back in stock.

Can someone tell me how long yours took to reach the US? (I'm on the East Coast.)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] tbalden:
mine shipped today ;) i'm all eager to try it, me gonna wait around two weeks here in EU, it took 2 weeks to get me pdair case from HK too..
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] rootbox00:
How do i callibrate the Mugen? ATM the battery life is very bad.. draining much faster the the original..

can i flash latest cm7 nightly during callibrate process
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] sino8r:
Just wipe batterystats.bin.... calibrating lithium ion batteries is not necessary.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] marmar82:
Got my Chitec yesterday testing it right now... I took off the red wrapping an sanded the batter a little, and there is a slight bulge which is kinda annoying.. But I shall see how it performs...
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Mas_:
Which mugen store is the real one?

When I do a google search, I have two, one is mugenpowerbatteries.com and the other is mugen-power-batteries.com

One is located in the Netherlands, the other in Hong Kong. :confused:
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Queue515:
Uh oh... Mines coming from HK.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] FinHD:
I'm pretty sure that they sell the same product. Ordered mine from HK and it arrived in 5 days once it was shipped. Battery life improved greatly, I can easily go atleast 24hrs without charging(stock rom, few email syncs every hour, quite heavy data usage, youtube, etc) And I'm still running in the battery.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] jeandujardin01:
hmmm ordered last night from the HK store link i found in a thread :s

there's also that one www.mugenbattery.com *weird*

the HK store looks more professional than the others (they have facebook fan page ect..)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Broman400:
Best Price I found:

http://cgi.ebay.com/MUGEN-1800mAh-E...Accessories&hash=item51979d84d0#ht_3422wt_943

$39.99 including Expedited Shipping for free
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] MixToMax:
Interesting. My backup battery just lost yesterday and looking for a new one .
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] blast0id:
so I bought an OEM (HTC branded, red lable) incredible/evo 4g battery (1800mAh) for about 7$ including the shipping... just got it... it fits about as well as the chichitech. it was red, like the one from the news story about saving a guys life... when you remove the label, you have a metal "core" with a plastic casing around the edge. to get it to seat, you have to cut the tab off the corner edge that is closest to the terminals. there is a slight gap, but only on the side closest to the battery release... and I think it's mostly the plastic causing it... I'm going to modify it a little more and see if I can get a perfect seat... but as far as value goes, if this performs as well as the mugen, you won't be able to beat this deal... haha...

o.k. upon closer inspection, I believe I may have been "had." haha... oh well at least it was only 7$ but still

here is what I noticed:

1. no liquid contact indicator anywhere to be found

2. after peeling the label off, I noticed on the other side of the battery these numbers LINE1: 100828P (no idea what this means) LINE2: GX504060A (is probably a standard battery size 5mm x 40mm x 60mm) LINE3: 1130mAh :eek:

doing some google searches for the size and voltage rating came back with some interesting results, it looks like the 1130mAh may just be the correct rating for this KNOCK-OFF OEM battery...

edit2: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160530677168#ht_943wt_905 - is what I purchased =( now that I look at that listing again, the T in htc on the battery pic, looks a little funky... oh well, shame on me =P
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] TrueYears:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-MUGEN-3600m...560684?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item45f8999eec

Too ugly??

Hmmm

How do I discharge my battery......

like use it as much as I can and then charge it before the life is 0?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] blast0id:
you should never go below 5%, bad for chemistry ;-)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] TrueYears:
Hmmmmm thank gods these phones turn off by themselves before reaching 5%
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Queue515:
Has anyone peeled the label off of an 1800 mAh Mugen? Any incriminating numbers under there?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] tbalden:
Haha, that would be fun, if mugen would incriminate itself under label on self made battery :D I should have one delivered soooon...
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] crazy talk:
cell phones never, ever discharge batteries to the point where actual cell damage can occur. not even close.

you can, and should periodically discharge the phone till it turns off to keep the battery gauge accurate.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] ultma75:
My mugen battery just got shipped. I had the Evo battery but it would randomly turn off. Hopefully mugen is a lot better

sent from honeycomb cm7 yum
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Queue515:
Anyone who was on the backorder that shipped Feb 1 get their Mugen yet?

I'm impatiently waiting for mine, and the tracking info has not been updated since the status of "foreign acceptance" on USPS on Feb 2, 2011.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] hoyeah:
I had mine posted on 29th january, the current status is:

The item (xxxxxxx) left Hong Kong for its destination (France) on 7-Feb-2011
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Queue515:
Thanks, I hope we both get our batteries soon.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] arts711:
After receiving the Mugen (took about 2 weeks exactly).. I'm still on cycling the power (their documentation thats included suggested 3 cycles I think) but even at this stage its already out-lasting the OE battery and I've been pushing it harder trying to drain power :-p. To those who've ordered one, it is something to look forward to and I recommend it. Also, in case anyone is wondering... there is no fitment issues at all. Hope this helps anyone still on the fence. After about 14 hrs of use with wifi/bluetooth on and OCed and me constantly connected to the computer using a remote app like Gmote, i still have 58% power left.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] blast0id:
Not saying this is a lie or anything as I am slightly ignorant in this matter, but who told you this? Where can I read for myself some proof, would make me feel better actually understanding the truth... thanks!

Sent via subs0nic G2 frequency m0dulat0r
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] blast0id:
s0rry if it's in your signature already (using xda app here so can't see it) but what rom are you running?

Sent via subs0nic G2 frequency m0dulat0r
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] hoyeah:
At last !!

Indications are clear:

For firsts 4-5 charges, charge the battery for 8-12h EVEN IF YOUR PHONE IS SHOWING IT IS FULLY CHARGED ALREADY

I'll share my feedback in 6-7 days :p
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Rickroller:
I've been using my Mugen 1800 battery for 2-3weeks now and i'm not really impressed. It doesn't seem much better than my stock battery..which would get me thru a full day with light-med usage. I mean..there might be a slight 5-10% more at the end of the day than stock..but to me that's not really worth the money.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] WDawn:
Have been using my Mugen 1800 for a few days now, and as where my Z had trouble to make it trough the day (i unplug @ 6 am and it usually died around 10 pm after a day of heavy usage => 2 hours of calling, 20 sms, receive 100 mails, send out about 20 mails, push exchange, push gmail, facebook, weather, stock, bit of browsing, calculator, min 1 hour of music,... ) i can now make it trough the day and when i plug it in at about midnight i still have about 20%.

For me it's defenately worth the money. No more stress that i will have a dead battery @ 9 pm when it has been a busy day.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] blast0id:
http://batteryboss.org/

o_0

not looking good for mugen... unless they've changed their ways... anyone of you who have the mugen done any "scientific" testing?

rather than just the "in-hand benchmark" ???
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] arts711:
just the standard tmobile rom
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Queue515:
I found that page the other day. I don't have the cash to drop on a tester. Still waiting for my mugen.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] funkadesi:
is it necessary to wipe batterystats.bin when switching to a higher capacity battery?

If so, can I get some directions on how to do it

Using CM 6.1.1 stable.

Thanks brothers
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] tbalden:
reboot into recovery CWM, go into advanced menu and there should be a wipe batterystats options.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Biker1:
I came upon this thread the other day, and the chichitec batteries look to be good back ups for my Evo, and maybe I can put one of them in my Girl's G2.

I ordered 2 chichitec batteries from HTCExpress.com, but I forgot to order the charger also. I contacted them via email immediately, but still no response hours later. I even emailed to cancel the order minutes later, as I saw the items on Amazon for less, and I may have better recourse via Amazon if something goes wrong, But still no response. And the phone number is just a recording.

Looks like maybe I should have not ordered from htcexpress, as their return/refund policies are also pretty abominable.

Resolved:

ChiChi Tech Co. finally responded to my emails at the prodding of Google Checkout.

They apologized for the system errors, etc. and are shipping a charger gratis.

Should be receiving the batteries soon, and will see how they compare to the (2) OEM batteries I have been using.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Spastic909:
just ordered mine from ebay. brand new for 35 and free shipping
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Tommebaas:
I just ordered the Mugen!
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] tbalden:
Got mine today, two weeks shipping from hk.

This text about conditioning in the manual is total nonsense for a li-on battery... no idea why they advise that. I will charge it for a good long time then delete battery stat, and then good enough...why charge them 3 or 5 times a lion battery...well, anyway I will report back my experience in a few days...
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] TrueYears:
14 +

Amazing battery

More than happy with it
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] bryyyan:
Got mine today from ebay! Came 4 days after i paid. Came out to 39.10 shipped!
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] k3y.m8ney:
I grabbed a mugen battery and I must say I am not impressed. 1800 mah I thought would last a bit longer than the stock battery but in my testing thus far it is maybe just maybe 5 percent better. Still a decent bettery but not as good as I expected.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Chinam4n:
You could try one of those 3500mAH batteries on ebay. You'll be surprised how long you get. Only down side is that you can put a case for the back unless you modify it. Also having a big bulged on the battery back door it comes with.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] hoyeah:
Same here, I usually plug my phone after 30 hours with the stock battery and I can't see no sensible upgrade with the mugen one.

If I knew I'd have bought a 5$ stock one to have a spare...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AbsolutZeroGI:
I have been through the entire sticky'd thread for boot animations and I just can't find one I like so I thought I'd request one. What I want is pretty simple:

Something with the Android robot

Something explosive, colorful and beautiful

Something smooth, sharp and futuristic.

Basically, like the droid x boot screen on steroids, more colors and an a little android bot.

Or The nexus boot animation but on steroids and a little android bot.

Something comparable in epic awesomeness as the more recent final fantasy video games.

Preferable no words, just animation (maybe "loading" or "booting" would be okay).

On a flashable zip.

If it can't be done I understand and I'll settle for continuing my hunt to find one.

Thanks to anyone who can help :)

Something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9u7sJc63gw&playnext=1&list=PLBE87D3090844C06B&index=13

mixed with the nexus boot animation featuring a little android bot.

You know, big smooth, epic, colorful, futuristic, awesome. The boot animation that everyone will want :D

Can this be done? and if so, can someone do it? I'm a code guy not a graphics guy so I've no idea how any of this works.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rjumawan:
That does look awesome. I want to change mine also but new to that part.seems easy keep me posted buddy. Thanx
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gear.h34d.2012:
Im in for something like this. Also, a bit off topic, anyone know where I can get the Nexus boot animation for the EVO?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AbsolutZeroGI:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=708173
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AbsolutZeroGI:
Who wants a challenge?

I found these 2 pretty awesome boot animations by googling "bootanimation.zip"

They both came from droid eris forums.

If anyone wants to mod them to work on an evo and put 'em in a flashable zip, you'd be my hero, I definitely want a copy of at least unstable core :D

I updated the txt file in both of them to match one I found in the other Evo bootanimation zips but I still get an error when I try to flash them.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarthCivicus:
Anyone know how sweet these are?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
Ya wow that droid x one with an android there instead of a ball, that'd be f****** sick.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evohack99:
quick question.. instead of flashing these boot zips why dont people just move them to system/customize/resource. then rename the old boot anim. and name the new one "bootanimation.zip"
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vj092887:
Yeah. That's how I do it
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wigwam12:
...I genuinely don't understand so would appreciate some knowledge.:o

There are a huge number of (SD) Android Builds.

Some based on Stock Android, some Sense, Some Desire, some Desire HD, some Core etc etc.

Let's not even get into Harastin stuff.

Now these chefs are all really great from what I can see based on my reading here and many of these are mature and seemingly everything working etc.

BUT looking at the screenshots they look similar with small tweaks here or there [excluding the themes].

Now coming from WinMo cooked roms which look different with lots of different stuff in them.

Could I ask simply:

what differentiate them?:confused:

Thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kabuk1:
*sneaks in before the flaming starts*

It's actually kind of similar to the difference in WM roms. Each Android rom here is cooked with slightly different features. They all do basically the same thing, but there are different styles/themes, different apps included, and different kernels which can make for varying battery life or feature sets. Some are bleeding-edge versions of Android, like the new 2.3 Gingerbread roms. There's not really any HUGE differences between all the roms, its more like a bunch of different flavors & you have to just try them all out and decide which flavor you like best.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wigwam12:
That's a great succinct summary. Thanks.

I guess I was swayed by the very similar looking home screens in alot of them.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] parmar.saab:
Now LET THE FLAMING COMMENCE!!! MUHAAHAHAAHAHAHAAAA
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vartp:
Ohh cmon, you create thread "Please don't flame me..." in the wrong forum section. I am surprised someone even answered. Probably nothing would help you.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wigwam12:
hunh??:confused:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xdabart:
Succinct !

What a succinct response to such a modest amount of flame ;-)

I learned a new word today, yay !
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
It finally will arrive from the buyer. Can't wait to root it and get some more CM6 action. Also can't wait to get my Nexus on eBay. :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] zkid2010:
Grats!
[G2 and Desire Z General] wileykat:
Congrats pal.
[G2 and Desire Z General] nohcho:
So are you selling nexus s or one on ebay to get g2?. If yes, why? I have nexus s and thinking about exchanging it for g2.
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
That's exactly what I'm doing. Here's why (pros = +, cons = -):

Nexus S: (can sell for $650)

+beautiful SAMOLED screen

+instant updates from Google

+very light and sexy

-all-plastic housing is a fingerprint and scratch magnet

-no notification LED

-it's a Samsung

G2: (bought for $400)

+hardware keyboard

+matte finish is not a fingerprint magnet

+notification and charging LEDs

+SLCD is also beautiful, albeit less saturated

+HTC quality

-smaller screen

-heavier and larger

-non-Google updates (but I use CM)

Since they're both fairly equal on the specs level (minus the above nit-picks), I'd rather have the extra $250 and the G2's quirks over the Nexus's quirks. I'm also expecting a lot of "next-gen" Android devices to be unveiled at CES, so I'm probably only going to have this phone for 4-6 months anyways. The Nexus is just a little too pricey for something that isn't far enough beyond the G2; they're both essentially in the same hardware "generation."
[G2 and Desire Z General] dhkr123:
I can't possibly agree with all your + and - points....

AMOLED is WAY oversaturated. Nice in theory, but doesn't actually look right. It is quite a ways from being on par with SLCD for image quality.

On the VISION, the smaller screen is a ***PLUS***. I actually find the Vision's screen to still be too big. The DREAM's touch screen was a good size. I would never own a phone with a 4+ as it just gets to be too much stretching for 1-handed operation.

Also, being heavier and larger is also a POSITIVE. As an example, try to see how long a ford focus will last out on a battlefield against tanks and machine guns. A phone has to be sturdy and have a substantial mass to it because it IS used in a hostile environment -- temperature changes, water, being dropped, etc. It is also easier to hold when it has some weight. The tiny and low weight junkies are seriously confused people. Its not as if the thing is as big as a cell phone from the 80's.
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
Relax. They were my own opinions. ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] dhkr123:
I am relaxed. I'm just helping to improve your perspective on the device you have chosen to own. I.e., you should feel even better! What you've chosen is, by FAR, the best phone out there. :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] demanche:
Yep got mine last week, awesome phone..running gingerbread rom nicely
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
I'm still using CM6.1.1 until we get an official CM7 RC. I just love my CM extras too much.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dhkr123:
I won't be touching CM7 on Vision until I know that it can be trusted. Phone has to actually work. Experimental stuff to happen on the Dream.
[G2 and Desire Z General] lombardo8:
I finally took the plunge and I have ordered a Desire Z to arrive tomorrow. I almost bit the bullet and bought it at launch but during the delays in Europe, I read so much about the hinge issue and chickened out.

My Touch Pro 2 has developed the dreaded newton rings for the second time in 6months and I have sent it away to be repaired on warranty. I will sell it when it returns.

This situation forced me into buying a new phone and I looked at the Desire Z (again), Nexus S and Desire HD. I just couldnt bring myself to accept the size of the DHD. I have used phones with keyboards for the past 3 years and I dont think I can live without a keyboard. I went to Bestbuy on a few occassions to try out the touchscreen keyboard on the NS but it just didnt feel rght. I know how frustrated I got when I tried to type simple mesages on the screen of my TP2.

I decided on getting the DZ since the hinge 'problem' only surfaces when the phone is held in a ridiculous way you probably will never hold it in most real world situations. Anyway I bought it online so I have 7 days to return it if the hinge seems to be a really big problem.
[G2 and Desire Z General] apollostees:
This is one of the clearest break downs I've seen for choosing a G2. These are some of the reason I chose the G2. Plus I really feel like both the Nexus S and Gingerbread were a rush job for the Christmas dough.

That said, I almost got the Nexus S just for the resale value. Because, come april-may 2011 the G2 probably won't fetch more than $175-200 tops.

Oh well I saved money on this end.;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] redpoint73:
I can't stand "traditional" touchscreen keyboards either, but Swype works really well. I am finding myself surprised at how often I use Swype instead of the hardware keyboard on my Vision. I still use the hardware keyboard for longer messages. But for my next phone, I may seriously consider a phone without a keyboard.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dhkr123:
That has to be a matter of personal preference. Swype, to me, was absolute garbage, so I deleted it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] redpoint73:
Personal preference? Absolutely. But I'm surprised you would go so far as to call Swype "absolute garbage". What about it didn't you like? As a "regular" touchscreen keyboard, its seems just about as good as any other. As far as 'swiping' words, I find it very good at predicting the word I intended, even when I often know for fact that I didn't hit the letters exactly right.
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
Swype is the thing of gods. I couldn't use a software keyboard without it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] lombardo8:
I tried Swpe on a colleagues Galaxy S and was very impressed. I could get used to using Swype but the problem is I type mainly in slang and a kind of english (african patois) which means I woud have to use the Swype keyboard like an ordinary keyboard most times. :mad:
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheBiles:
After you type the word once it will learn it.