[Gen8 Android Development] sweetypie:
Yes, I know I'm being pedantic there, but, for people new to *nix, I think it's important to stress just how important it is to follow instructions to the letter. People don't realise about case sensitivity, for example. I was sent to IBM to learn my Unix System Management (AIX), and the IBM trainers were very strict about paying attention to detail. Especially in an international forum like this where language is difficult sometimes.

When I say "being pedantic" I mean that, although it may be true that you can press either Vol Down or Vol Up in conjunction with Power On, the Instruction on the Archos web page associated with the SDE says only Vol Down. I feel very strongly that people being introduced to *nix should be told to follow instruction exactly, and not make up their own. Any departure from quoted instructions should be stated as such.

I do appreciate the fact that you extracted your method from the previous thread, and dedicated this thread to your method only - it really helps to keep things clear. As someone who has read this entire thread before posting about the bluetooth problem, so that I couldn't be accused of not searching for a solution before posting, I can't help noticing that there is a lot of confusing waffle in this thread, like a post in the middle of the thread where someone has made up his own version of your instructions in a long post. Then he ends it by saying "ignore this post". I recommend "housekeeping" this thread, including deleting that post. Soneone else recently stated his problem, and quoted that "ignore me" post in full, as something he had followed. He seemed to have missed totally the "ignore me" statement. Delete the thing.

I'm glad you're keeping the first post updated - that's absolutely vital. This unwieldy thread is in danger of becoming unusable. It took me all yesterday evening to read the thing, just to find out if the bluetooth problem had already been mentioned.

Your first post instructions do work, if followed exactly, albeit the importance of havng some *nix knowledge / instinct maybe ought to be stressed.

I think maybe that instruction set should be wrapped in an overall "If you want to root your Gen 8 Archos, and know nothing about *nix, then these are the things you should teach yourself, and do, in preparation", kind of thing (essay?).

Maybe a Wiki?

This rooting issue is hugely important, and I applaud the work and skill that has gone into it.

I'm lucky, I used to be a Unix System Manager, but it was 20 years ago, and only a vague memory. For example, I expected to be asked to create a root password as part of my Ubuntu installation, but all I got asked for was an Administrator password. Where did this "sudo" come from in the past 20 years?

So, although I downloaded the Ubuntu "Live CD" ISO, I read the Ubuntu site a bit more, and plumped for the "Desktop Install" option instead, to get a simpler, "purer" install, and make things as easy as possible to go through the rooting process. I'm glad I did - it was a simple install - no prior knowledge needed, and I recommend it to anyone who wants to learn Linux. I was able to install familiar utilities immediately, and make my environment more familiar (Windows-wise), and less daunting to explore. Now my Dual boot Windows / Linux setup is very powerful.

I'd definitely recommend anyone unfamiliar with Linux / Unix takes a few days to play with it, learn the commands, get the root password, and "try out" your commands in your first post, in order to understand what they all do, before doing it in earnest. I've thoroughly enjoyed playing with the *nix commands again (I've steered away from rm -R {{{ shudder }}}, but I've had fun trying the others).

Sorry for the ramble, it's a problem I have, but I wanted to say thanks for all this. Also thanks $aurOn, for sticking with the people with problems, it must be tempting to say "Just read the instructions".

I'm glad you acknowledge the bluetooth problem. It gives me confidence that I did the first bit ok.

I'll have a go at Step 3 soon. My other question in my last post was about performance. Is my uninspiring performance due to my using a Class 4 (allegedly) sdcard? And the fact that I've not taken Step 3?

Keep up the good work.