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[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
I've entered a bug report specific to this problem just now, since I'm also having the problem. Click here to go straight to it.

Please go there and STAR it. The more stars, perhaps the more attention it will get by Google.

Don't add a reply unless it adds further information that will help diagnose the issue. "Me too" and "please fix this" kind of comments are frowned upon because they result in an email being sent to everyone who has starred the comment.

Starring the comment is your way of saying I have the issue and want to be informed of the status when it changes. No comment required to get the attention by Google, and people often unstar an issue when the useless comments start generating too much email.
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
Well, if the ringtone is stored on the sdcard, and the sdcard is mounted (meaning not availble to the OS), then no way for the phone to use that ringtone.

Re: the slightly off-topic bug reports of ringtones you pick not being saved, please read below copy of post I made in the other thread:

I've entered a bug report specific to this problem just now, since I'm also having the problem. Click here to go straight to it.

Please go there and STAR it. The more stars, perhaps the more attention it will get by Google.

Don't add a reply unless it adds further information that will help diagnose the issue. "Me too" and "please fix this" kind of comments are frowned upon because they result in an email being sent to everyone who has starred the comment.

Starring the comment is your way of saying I have the issue and want to be informed of the status when it changes. No comment required to get the attention by Google, and people often unstar an issue when the useless comments start generating too much email.
[Nexus S General] cavanman:
done, thanks
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Related: How do you get it so your phone recognizes music as a ringtone in your settings? It seems I don't see my music list until I go into the Music app and select a song to be my ringtone. Then after, if I should go back to Settings and change my ringtone (or alarms), then I'll see that designated song as an option.
[Nexus S General] zomgzombies:
starred as requested
[Nexus S General] jspookss:
Starred as well, this annoys me to no end.
[Nexus S General] Ghost_1:
I use ringdriod and rings extended.

I don't have the issue of ringtones switching but I don't do what y'all are doing.
[Nexus S General] jspookss:
I used ringdroid to create a ringtone and it sticks. Maybe we should save any mp3 ringtones we want to use in the media/audio/ringtones folder.

After I created a ringtone using ringdroid of the same mp3 i was previously trying to use to no avail, it has stayed set as my ringtone. Even after several usb mounts and reboots.
[Nexus S General] neok44:
ringtones/notifications/alarms have to go in the folders with those names, if the folder does not exist, then make it.

Thats probably the issue, because if you don't have them in that folder, when the storage goes away android gets confused and changes it back.

If you want to use full songs then use RingDroid or Rings Extended.
[Nexus S General] unremarked:
For now, you can adb push/root explorer/file manager of your preference your ringtones from their place on the SD card to the /system/media/audio/ringtones on the system partition where the pre-installed ringtones are if your device is rooted to avoid this issue.
[Nexus S General] jankyboy:
Great suggestion! After experiencing the issue several times, I ended up moving my ringtones right to /system/media... No issues since.
[Nexus S General] mcosmi:
im on 3.2.1 and it just happened again yesterday. DAMN!!!! I tried uninstalling zedge and going to stock android ringtones to see if it happens again.
[Nexus S General] Ghost_1:
I rooted my phone to do other things but I am still on 2.3.1. You will need to d/l super manager from the market and go into settings to allow for foot folder access. Once that is done copy your files to /system/media/audio/ringtones or notifications.

After that the files will be on the portion of memory that doesn't unmount when restarted/USB mounted. I had a similar issue with my G2 and N1 when mounting/removing the memory card. If this phone had removable memory this problem wouldn't be so big of an issue for me.

GL all.
[Nexus S General] mcosmi:
Why should that be necessary!!!!????!!. Why should I have to root, and copy notifications to system? Seriously, this is a very important, if not THE MOST IMPORTANT feature of a phone. Correct notifications staying locked in is absolutely essential. This has happened to me 5 times now since getting nexus S. I cannot believe Google could push an OS out with bugs like this. It is very troubling...I tout android as superior OS to iPhone but it is EXACTLY little things like this that make this OS feel unfinished, rushed and just plain f-ed up. I dunno how this could be permitted to slip through, very troubling indeed.

Going back to Nexus 1 until i can rely on the Nexus S to let me know when im txted rather than tweeted rather than talked, rather than emailed.
[Nexus S General] mcosmi:
neok44 i have my ringtones and notifications in the respective folders, and it still happens, so that is NOT the issue. HAs to do with mounting somehow...what an annoying problem, i swear...im pissed about this to no end.
[Nexus S General] zomgzombies:
i think if you use full songs it does this. i've shortened my ringtones with Ringdroid and kept them under 45 sec and it seems to be fine.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Ringdroid is a useful app. I will try this and see if I can recreate the random changes (it's not hard to recreate. Just either mount/dismount USB storage or reboot phone - either actions seem to always change the tones). Will update to confirm.
[Nexus S General] Ghost_1:
It shouldn't be. It probably has to do with the way mounting and unmounting of the storage space. I'm sure someone will figure out a fix. At least we can change it unlike WP7. :)
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
He's right. After rebooting, the ringtones and alarm tones change randomly again.

@zomgzombies, try rebooting your phone and see if your 45 secs ringtones stick. If they do, you are lucky.
[Nexus S General] TheBiles:
No problems on CyanogenMod so far.
[Nexus S General] jspookss:
Ringdroid does indeed work like a charm
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Referring to the app itself, or in respect to the phone keeping your ringtones set to what you pick?
[Nexus S General] mcosmi:
yea, ringdroid works to make the ringtones, but they still switch on their own. What a mess.
[Nexus S General] jaker.the.skater:
is there anything else you guys are doing with ringtones that could make them switch? I have not had any problems on either 2.3 or 2.3.1
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
I believe the issue arises when you use custom ringtones (ie. MP3s you might put onto your memory). It doesn't seem to happen when using the preinstalled ringtones (those short 'sounds'). The problem occurs and can be recreated whenever one mounts/dismounts USB storage, and/or reboots the phone. Very frustrating. Again, if anyone is experiencing this, please visit this link and star the reported issue: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13413. It'll increase the chances of it getting noticed by Google and fixing it in future updates.
[Nexus S General] jaker.the.skater:
gotcha
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
install Ring Extender, which lets you customize whatever tones you want to use.

i've been using that on all my Android phones, it beats the stock ring tone / alert selector
[Nexus S General] cavanman:
happened to me again today. ringtones were set to silent and I missed several calls.
[Nexus S General] qreffie:
So far it's happened to me once however last time I reset, the song I set for it was still selected.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Do you mean with a personal MP3 that you added to your memory? If so, try mounting/dismounting your USB storage and rebooting your phone. If it passes those two tests and your selection remains, then you are lucky.

If not, hope you'll visit the link and 'star' the reported issue to Google. http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13413
[Nexus S General] unremarked:
If the issue remains, and I'm not trying to dismiss the fact that this is a serious glitch/bug that Google needs to fix sooner rather than later, I'll remind folks that a workaround does exist in the form of pushing your preferred ringtone .mp3(through ADB or an app like Root Explorer) to the system/media/audio/ringtones partition of your phone where the pre-installed ringtones are ** if you are rooted **. Bolded and starred for emphasis.

Again, I'm completely with @onthecouchagain to star this issue so Google can fix it ASAP ratherthan having to rely on a root-only workaround at his link: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13413
[Nexus S General] neok44:
have you tried using rings extended? try that and see if the issue still happens.
[Nexus S General] jspookss:
in respect to the topic of ringtone switching. I saved a 15 sec clip in the media/audio/ringtones folder and it hasnt given me any foolishness since.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
I can still recreate the problem with Rings Extender

Doesn't a phone call ring longer than 15 seconds though? I'll give this a try next.

Edit: Negative. Tried the 15 second thing, didn't work. @Jspookss, the 15 sec clip you select to your phone ringtone still sticks even after rebooting your phone?

It's time to call it quits. Google just needs to fix this problem. Star star star: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13413
[Nexus S General] nxt:
You know what's more annoying? When your tones aren't even selected!

Just woke up, my phone's been on charging all night.

My phone just vibrated with new Gmail, no tone. I check and a tone isn't selected, I check my normal ringtone, not selected, my notifications, no selected. Sigh. Rebooted, and they're all back to normal and selected the proper one.
[Nexus S General] Lemim0uth:
It happens with notification, too. I have a custom notification sound of one second on external memory, and it reverts to default when I mount / unmount it. So it has nothing to do with the length of the file
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Google just needs to fix this problem. Star star star: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13413
[Nexus S General] neok44:
this whole post has just confuses me, because if this was happening in 100% of phones i think we'd see more than 20 people complaining about it.

but we see very little people, i'm starting to think this must be some isolated screw up in some copies of gingerbread.
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
I doubt that.

Far more likely is that the vast majority of users don't use custom ringtones stored on the sdcard or don't use custom ringtones at all, so they've not noticed it.

And for those that are having the problem but don't frequent forums, throw in that most of them don't even know about XDA and aren't members here to come and complain, and that's far more plausible than some phones have the issue and some don't, IMHO.
[Nexus S General] neok44:
i guess thats true, just seems so strange that i don't see anything about this anywhere else. I personally use a massive amount of custom ringtones so and if none of them work on the NS thats a huge concern for me.
[Nexus S General] neok44:
posted on the official t-mobile forums, two owners have their ringtones on the sd card and are not having the issue.

http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Googl...us-S-owners-with-custom-ringtones/td-p/632959
[Nexus S General] elliottn:
Yeah but what about those of us with unrooted devices. We are just sol until Google fixes the problem. Glad someone reported it because I was about to.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
One of them is on a rooted device, and I'm not even sure what the other one means by external SD. Doesn't the Nexus S just have one internal SD, aka the USB Storage?

In any case, if it's true people don't experience random ringtone/notification tone changes after mounting/dismounting or rebooting their phone, then they are lucky. Just be careful not to let two supposed issue-free posts clear Gingerbread of the glitch, especially since you say custom ringtones are an important feature for you. Hopefully it'll be fixed by the time you pick up a NS, if you do. For now, the issue exists for me and quite a few others (at the Android Central forums and in the comments at the Google report link, as well. There's currently 34 stars on the report).

@Elliot, hope you've starred it: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13413. Thanks.
[Nexus S General] jspookss:
Yeah it has been stuck for a few days now. But I agree, google should fix this. we shouldn't have to find our own "workarounds"..

As far as my other notifications (Gmail, Email, messaging etc.) are concerned, I haven't had an issue with them at all.
[Nexus S General] littlesthobo:
I did some experimenting with ringtone locations here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=884076
[Nexus S General] littlesthobo:
When I use USB a lot the ringtones and notification are lost, but a quick reset restores them all. I am using the default locations in the last post for all my tones, maybe that is the key?
[Nexus S General] nxt:
Man, it's getting worse and worse!

Please let me NOT be the only one with this problem.

I went through all my alarms/notifications/ringtones on my "sd" card and deleted a ton I don't use or don't like, just so the phone scans the "sd" card faster and hopefully have less issues.

Anyways I never turn my phone off, or try not to. But EVERYDAY around 2-4AM, my tones would all be set to NOTHING! My phone still sees the "sd" card, I can use a file manager and browse it, etc. I reboot, and it's back to normal.

Also in the middle of the day, just now, it happened again. Got an email and no sound, I go to gmail, to check, yep, no sound selected. But sometimes when I go double check, my phone lists all my tones as DOUBLES. Again a reboot fixes it (sometimes).

Man this is really really annoying. I have to go through: phone ringtone, notification sound, google talk sound, google voice sound, sms popup sound everytime a reboot doesn't fix the sound selection issue.

(And if I wasn't clear, I didn't mount my phone to PC at all).

There's two "issues" on Android code website, I've posted on both also. Everyone go and star it.

Star: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13309

Star: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13413

ARGH!!!
[Nexus S General] neok44:
been researching this some more, it's a gingerbread issue with the internal memory on the nexus s.

the galaxy s devices have never had this issue, the custom touchwiz/2.1 is set up to work right, something on the nexus s/gingerbread is screwing it up.

From what i've seen, it dosn't seem to happen on any custom roms, obviously thats not a fix for most of you, but there is that option.

Also this is not on 100% of devices, i went to my local best buy and played around with the demo phone, downloaded a ringtone, rebooted the phone and unmounted the internal 4 times and it never changed.

obviously not saying it's an issue, but it isn't on 100% of devices.
[Nexus S General] stevo1006:
[Q] ringtone keeps changing

dont know what is causing this but my phone keeps changing and resetting my ringtones from one i chose in ringdroid to a standard one. and also keeps doing same to the alarm. i am using modaco r2 btw
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Welcome to the club. This issue seems to be pretty widespread. It's been reported to Google here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13413 Please visit the link and star the report so more attention is brought to it in the hopes that Google will address the problem in a future update.
[Nexus S General] stevo1006:
cheers mate have starred and commented. aslo out of chance have you ever experienced your phone frezzing when locked then having to pull battery and turn on again??
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Thanks for starring the ringtone report.

You mean freezing on the lock screen? If so, I have not experienced that. If you mean freezing (or even lag/hiccups) when scrolling through the home screens, then yes. And a report is also filed for that issue to star if you're experiencing it also: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13563

Otherwise, sorry. Haven't experienced freezing in the lock screen.
[Nexus S General] stevo1006:
no it just freezes with a black screen and wont do anything have to batt pull. happened about 4 times
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
That is not a good sign. I'm an amateur at best when it comes to Android, so maybe others can chime in with more helpful information, but you should check if you have any rogue apps running that might be causing this, or if you can recreate it by doing something specific (and if so, what is it?). If it just happens randomly with no indication of cause, then it could be a defective unit or even a defective battery. You might have to consider exchanging it after you've done some experimenting.

Again, I am no expert, but good luck.
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
no problem so far

but i'm running Bionix custom ROM
[Nexus S General] schartzr:
[Q] Ring Tones

Hey guys I have searched and searched maybe I am just blind as a bat. Cuse I know there were threads about this,

But EVERY time I reboot my Nexus S all my ring tones on EVERYTHING change the SMS, Tweet Deck, G Talk, my ring tone, email accounts they all change to some different ones.

Is there anything to do to fix this. I hate not knowing what is going off, I know what ones I set and when something else goes off and it is not that makes me upset a little.

Thanks in advance and sorry if I am a total boob and missed these other threads
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Yep, it's quite a wide spread issue. More importantly, it's been reported to Google. Please visit the link and star the problem. The more attention, the more hope Google will fix in a future udpate: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13413
[Nexus S General] unremarked:
Interestingly enough, I had to NAND restore last night due to an issue with the latest Trinity kernel. When I woke up this morning, reflashed Bionix reflashed Trinity.

I'd always used the system ringtones, but when I got my first call this morning, my Nexus S had chosen a YouMail voicemail message to play instead. Haha
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
That's my experience and what I actually reported as the "bug" when I started the issue everyone's being asked to star.

Even with system ringtones selected, not custom ones on the sdcard, I get occasional random re-selection of the ringtone.

A lot of people are pointing the finger at the USB storage being mounted or not, but that's not the case for all of us.
[Nexus S General] unremarked:
Yeup, I was one of them too. This is the first time it's ever decided to change my ringtone from something on the system partition. I wish you could star the bug report harder. :( Use like more symbols! *#!*$#!. lol
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
LOL, that would be funny.

I hope this is just some software bug and not some indication of faulty memory chips (like the Bell i9000m Galaxy S) where whatever portion of memory some preference file is being written to is bad and the preference file is getting corrupted. :eek:
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Does anyone know if Google actually reads every single issue reported, or only ones with a certain amount of stars; and if so, how many stars does it usually take to truly get their attention? Hundreds? Thousands?
[Nexus S General] unremarked:
No idea, mate. If we can take the supposed SMS bug(wrong texts being sent to/received by the wrong people) as any indication, it takes the problem being picked up by major tech blogs to be escalated in a hurry.
[Nexus S General] Seff:
Cron script to reset the settings every 2 hrs?

Hi,

I am just curious, can somebody help us develop a "cron" script to automatically reset the settings once saved? I believe when I select my ringtones for my phone, sms, email, clock alarms etc., it is stored somewhere right (in a file)? Then it shouldn't be so complicated to develop a script to to fix it every hour. It is so frustrating for me, I have a very nice wake-up alarm from SGS (Morning) and I get a horrible beep sound instead waking me up like crazy!

I cannot simply mod the phone's bootloader, etc. in order to root the phone and copy the .ogg files to the internal memory. This is a step back... This sounds like from the Windows Mobile world...

Please, anyone?

J.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
By the way, I'm not sure what it is... but my phone doesn't seem to be resetting my custom ringtones (alarms, personal contact specifics, or the main phone ringtone) anymore after mounting/dismounting USB. After I mount, I always check if the ringtones are still set (annoying procedure), and lately, I've been finding nothing changes.

About to try a reboot to see if that'll change the ringtones.

Um... does Google roll out silent updates? Or just a lucky streak?

Edit: Holy moly, my ringtones seem to be sticking even after rebooting. What's going on? Anybody else?
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
i've never had a problem

but that's maybe because i use 3rd party ringtone apps?

http://www.appbrain.com/app/ringdroid/com.ringdroid

ringdroid & ring extended

http://www.appbrain.com/app/rings-extended/com.angryredplanet.android.rings_extended
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
While that's a good idea on the surface, without root access, I don't think your shell script or whatever is going to be able to modify the files it would need to do what you're asking...
[Nexus S General] Seff:
frustrated

It's really annoying since I checked this morning at 8 and everything was set. Two hours later I have an alarm going off and get a horrible sound again. Too bad...
[Nexus S General] 07accordEX:
Hard to read the entire thread, but it seems like there is no fix yet. Was there anything that was suggested to maybe work? On my WinMo phone I could transfer files to phone OR sd card without unmounting or anything... I hate how I can't transfer files to my SD AND use other files on the SD card at the same time... REALLY ANNOYING

How can we access the files or store files in the phone's space? Retarded how we can only access the card...
[Nexus S General] rakh1:
[Q] Forgotten ring, notification and alarm sounds

Hi all,

I have noticed on several occasions that my custom sounds are lost - these include the ringtone, sms notification and alarm. They default back to the basic sounds.

All of my sounds are on the SD card in relevant folders. It seems to be they are lost randomly when I reboot the phone.

Should I move the sounds off the SD card and into the main memory so it is not unmounted??? in which case where do I create the alarms, ringtones and notifications folders?

Any suggestions welcome...

Thanks, Rich
[Nexus S General] Rusty!:
I doubt there will ever be a fix for this, the phone simply can't access the external/USB storage when it's mounted.

Even my N95 would revert to it's defaults when it was plugged in (it's theme would change as well).
[Nexus S General] rakh1:
So... tried to move these to /system/media/audio with ESFileExplorer but it will not let me copy or move them to the respective folders.... anyone know why or what I am doing wrong?

Cheers, Rich
[Nexus S General] rakh1:
hmm - seems common...

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13309

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13413

Please vote for fix if you have this too!

/R
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
You should check out the Dual Mount Widget: http://www.appbrain.com/app/dual-mount-sd-widget/com.protocol.x.USB

You need to be rooted, though.

If you're rooted, you can access the system files via adb from the command line terminal.
[Nexus S General] nxt:
There's already a long ass thread about this.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=900031

-Nexus S
[Nexus S General] rakh1:
Thanks - please close/lock this thread....

/R