yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
Hey man :) Thanks for the review! I'm glad you liked it.

I was particularly happy about the way you described the ROM at the end, "It is a look at what could have been if HTC really gave it their all.". I'm not sure if you know this, but that was EXACTLY what I was aiming for when I started with simplicity. If you look at the first page of my ROM, you'll see that I said "This ROM, simplicity, is my take on what a Rhodium stock ROM should be."

Also, this is really great what you're doing for the forum. Keep it up ;)

EDIT: One thing, don't be afraid to bash ROMs a little bit in your reviews :) (I'm pretty sure there were more things you didn't like in simplicity).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I don't normally include things I dislike because its just meant to be a basic review. I could do a bug report for you if you prefer though. I just like to point out the features of the ROM in this thread.

I hope you stick around for a while longer, man.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seeM_ZA:
I think putting things you dislike would be good, as long as you specify exactly what it is (so the reader can decide whether he/she dislikes it or not). A bug report doesn't seem necessary. I guess you could say, generally, how buggy the ROM is though.

Thanks :) I think I will be.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
+1 to seeM's point of view.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Well, if you guys think it would help, then I'll start on the next review. I think I know the next one I'm going to do already. Thanks for the feedback.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
It seems that there have been a few new ROMs popping up here lately. I guess I need to get busy updating the thread. I'll try to get it cleaned up tomorrow evening after work.

Tomorrow is PAYDAY! LOL
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
The thread is updated. I think I'm ready to get it stickied now that I'm kind of in a groove with it. I figure I should be able to update it at least once a week. I would appreciate it if chefs or users would post in here or PM me when ROMs get updated. It would make maintaining this thing so much easier with community support.

I added a couple of ROMs that I didn't have in here and removed any ROMs that have not been supported or updated as of 31 December 2010. I also added a notes field to each ROM for miscellaneous things. Some of it is just place holders or nonsense right now until something comes up worth mentioning.

There will be no Featured ROM this week. That means seeM gets more exposure time. :) I'm working on a project right now that needs my attention, so I haven't tested anything yet. Besides, we wouldn't want to spoil all the ROMs too soon, right?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1milenia:
time saver

deepshing x14 sense

negas wp7
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I guess it's time for me to update this thread. Now that it's a sticky, I really need to stay on top of it. I have some free time tonight, so I'll update all the links and check for new ROMs then. Thanks for being patient.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Ok. All threads are updated. I'm going to start testing a new ROM tomorrow night. I should post a new review by the end of the weekend. Hope you all enjoy this!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ton_eighty:
Hi!

Do you have any idea which of the CUSTOM ROMs is with HTC Messaging client and Cookie Home Tab cooked in?

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Och! that would be xtreme slow and memory consuming :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ton_eighty:
thanks

Thanks for the info... and by the way...I have just downloaded one of your EVO roms 1 hr ago... I will be testin' it later. again.. thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I think that Energy roms have an option to install HTC Messaging by a cab file. Maybe this would suit you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
It's a really old file. I'm not sure if it still works at all. I can't imagine why people like to use HTC Messaging Client. It's sooooooo slow.

Also, guys, sorry, but the next review is being delayed again since I have to send my Rhodium out for repairs. The keyboard died.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zeusma:
Doesn't Energy ROM use HTC Messaging by default? You can still use the WM Messaging part but the Energy Sense screen defaults you to HTC Messaging. I wish there was a way to have it default to the WM Messaging because it is so slow.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Energy ROM does not use HTC Messaging Client. NRGZ28 cooks in Arcsoft messenger into the ROM as a replacement for the HTC client. It is considerably faster and more stable. The trade off is that it isn't as pretty. Not really a big loss, in my opinion. Most chefs do this anyway for the same reason. HTC MC is just too slow for users with more than a handful of text messages to sort through. It ends up hogging up all the system resources and slowing the device to a crawl. The problem only gets worse as you add more text messages to the mix.

If you really want it, NRG does offer the client as a separate download from his website.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ton_eighty:
in sense msg tab, when u hit the reply .....the skin is different than the one when u create a new message....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I assume you're using Energy ROM, as in you signature. If that is the case, then the reason is because Arcsoft messenger does not have a create message function. It relies on the default WM interface to do this. To create a new message in the "Sense-style" skin, you'll need to navigate to the contact you wish to send a message to, and send the message from within their contact card. Otherwise, the Reply feature will simply send you straight to the WM default client since their is no Sense interface to send you to, as HTC Messaging Client is not present.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ton_eighty:
does this mean I have 2 different messaging client working on my phone?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Technically, yes. The WM client can be stopped by closing the process tmail.exe. Arcsoft closes on its own, I believe. If you have an e-mail address that you have set to sync to your device, then killing this process is not a good idea, as it controls all of your default Windows Mobile messaging options (e-mail, SMS, MMS).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zeusma:
Thanks for clarifying that up... I always thought the Arcsoft was the HTC messaging. I'm glad its faster, but it still feels slower to me than WM messaging =(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
WM was never intended to be used for sending and receiving messages of any kind. The platform has not been seriously refreshed in over a decade. WM was originally set up to be able to sync your e-mails when connected to a PC, so you could answer them on the road. Then, once you sync back with a PC, the messages would be sent. With the innovation of wireless radios such as wifi and cellular data, the platform was forced to evolve. This evolution caused all sorts of problems, which is why most of the time, it seems as the the device freezes when the message is being sent.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Not true? My old 614c had no lag no matter sending or receiving a message. WM core is not the newest, I agree, but also not THAT legacy :p In my hopeless opinion WM6.1 was the last build not hardly forced to evolve.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
There just hasn't been much change to the messaging client in a decade. They added support for SMS/MMS and that was about it. We got threaded e-mails for a short time after devs stepped in and pushed it along. It's just hard to defend the many benefits of using WM when something so simple goes overlooked for ten years.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
The thread has been updated. With the lack of new builds coming out of DFT, it seems like only NRGZ28 had any new updates for his ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Major A:
Well, you tried latest WildChild's internal build already ? Some new material has been released, some fresh air to Rhod's is approaching ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
He let me know about the updates last night. I have updated his thread links here as well. His latest ROM is pretty fast.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaHose:
I just loaded WildChild's Illuminati 21916 build onto my U.S. market AT&T, Tilt2 (Rhod 300). It kicks mucho booty!!!

This is my first non-factory load and my compliments to the freaking chef. Instantly my apps. showed a marked increase in speed and I doubled my available stock memory to 70% free.

Loading HardSPL was not smooth. I tried the auto install and it failled, telling me I should install a downloadable .cab file. I didn't write down the addy., but if you see an error message that gives you a web link, just type the link into your browser and download the file. Run the file on your phone and then HardSPL should install nice and smooth. Once HardSPL was installed, Wildchild's build loads without a hitch.

Once the OS loaded, Bluetooth synced up fine and I got back my apps. list in the top right corner. WOOOHOOO!!!!!! All phone features seem available and fast. The PDA functions synced fine with my Exchange server and even my RC W100 headphone/remote control worked without needing any extra drivers, although it still defaults to controlling WMP and won't work with Nitro media player or even the built in HTC media player.

As far as anything unusual, I was able to load one POP mail account fine, but it wouldn't load a second one. It let me get through every step of config. and then it would just not create the new account. Configuring a second POP account on the phone required that I use Windows Device center to add my local Outlook account. I now have one Exchange and two smtp mail accounts working just fine on the phone.

So far I am really happy I decided to scrap the stock HTC ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I came in to do some updating last night, but noticed that only Jackos had anything new. I think Wild Child is going to release new stuff soon, but perhaps I just missed the other updates. If I haven't updated anyone's thread title, ROM date, or anything like that, let me know. I was preparing a review for a ROM a while ago before I had to send in my Rhodium again for repairs. I guess I'll get on it this weekend.

Sorry for the delays, in any case. Work has been extra rough lately. I need about three more hours in the day, and I'll be fine. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Ok, so I just finished updating the little bit that there was in here. We got a new chef recently and lost a few others.

Link1993 is now cooking a new WM6.1 ROM. It is currently only French language, but he claims he will release a WWE version in August when he returns home. He is also trying to get Sense 2.5 to work correctly in the ROM. The one he has online right now is running TF3D with a Sense skin. Best of luck to him.

We've officially lost Jackos and dotcompt to Android. They both say that they will pop in to fix bugs, but it will be rare if ever that new builds come out since they both have sold their devices. I want to thank them for their work here, and wish them well on their journey in Android development.

Wild Child normally makes stock-like ROMs for business users, but has finnally relented to peer pressure and made his ROM available with CHT2.0 cooked in.The new ROMs are fast and stable as we've come to expect from this chef.

Finally, NRGZ28 has released his latest batch of ROM with the latest SYS to be leaked to us, 29022. The new batch of ROMs feature several bug fixes as well as updates to the MaxSense flavor of ROMs.

What do you guys think about adding Android ROMs to this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
This first post is getting a make over. Let me know what you guys think about it. I know it's been done before in the Noob guide, I'm just trying to make it as simple and noob friendly as possible.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Please look over the first post and tell me if everything is covered, or if I should simplify anything in here. I'm trying to cover everything and make it as simple and informative as possible.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JGuinan007:
I'll miss you man

It seems Rhodium is dead long live Android I'm going over to Android I'll miss you Bob and all you've done to keep my device alive and fun hopfully I'll see you on the otherside :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
It might be dead, but it is still my favorite device that I've ever used. I wish HTC would reuse that keyboard on proper hardware. I guess I need to update this thread now that you've reminded me about it.

-- Sent from my HP TouchPad using Communities
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] JGuinan007:
new roms???

Wait are you saying there are still new roms for my tilt 2? I mean I did get an android phone but I don't know the OS like my windows mobile (it's weird it's like getting a new girl friend and going back and sleeping with your old one the new girl is hot but your just so comfortable with your old one cause you've been with her for so long not that your going to dump your new girl for her but its nice to sleep with her again) Anyway you know of any new 6.5.xx roms? I personally loved DeepShining 29019 | 21916 ● Rhod 2.10 Sense 2.5.2021 but no updates since April
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I don't know if there are updates or not. That's why I'm glad I was reminded. I need to go back through here and check out the threads to look for updates, if any. Dotcompt, NRGZ28, and seem_za have stopped cooking. I think Wild Child is still active. Jackos released an update recently, I believe. So, that's probably it. James is making some Italian roms too.

-- Sent from my HP TouchPad using Communities
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
The thread is up to date now. Only Jackos had anything new. It's a shame to see there aren't any active chefs here anymore. Then again, it isn't really their fault that Microsoft stopped WM development. Oh well.

Thank you to all of you chefs who have kept these devices alive for this long. Perhaps it is time for me to move on as well...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lbfree:
Hi Bob,

Thanks for compiling this great list. I am a newbie to flashing phones. I was given a newly flash Tilt 2 on ATT. It is the last HTC update. I think 6.1. I would like to get one of this custom ROMs, but have never flashed a phone before. All of these complicated instructions are daunting and intimidating. My hope is that you might be able to direct me to someone or some videos that could help me get this sucker updated.

Also, I was wondering which one of these is your favorite? I was thinking from my preliminary research I would choose the Energy ROM. I don't know what the difference between the 6.5 and 6.5x is. Perhaps you could illuminate.

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I'm glad you decided to post first before jumping in. I'll answer your questions as best I can, but please understand that I'm not here to hold hands through this process. This is a dngerous process if you don't read first to understand what is going on. My advice to you is to read through the instructions in the first post, as well as the New Users sticky thread. This will give you an idea of what to expect. All the instructions are laid out as simply as possible. There isn't anything that I can really explain better about the flashing process. At some point, you just have to learn by doing.

The good news is that as long as you make sure to use CDMA ROMs on a CDMA device, and GSM ROMs on a GSM device, then you will never truly brick your device so long as you use the correct tools. This is where reading and learning comes ino play. If you don't understand something, feel free to ask, but I don't know how much clearer I can make the instructions. As I mentioned, I've written it out as simply as I feel is possible to understand.

As far as the difference between 6.5 and 6.5.3, the only thing you are likely to notice in it is the start menu layout. 6.5 has the start menu at the top left of the notification bar. 6.5.3 uses a larger bottom bar with the start button positioned in the bottom left of the screen. Both start menus in either version use a honeycomb layout, instead of the traditional drop down list. Look at the ROM threads for pictures if that's difficult to picture.

Any more questions, let me know. Don't be too anxious to start flashing. It isn't hard, but you need to understand how it works first, as well as the consequences for not following the instructions. Even still, bricking isn't a real danger as long as you read.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schumifer1:
Best possible answer.

First you study, nothing can substitute for that. Then try, then use, then restart, hard reset if necessary, then ask questions.

Most of the problems on each step are answered-solved magically in the next...!!!

As for the 6.5 vs 6.5.x

i went for the stability and best resource handling sys (6.5)

6.5.x is more fun and beauty
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
I've updated Jackos ROMs to the current builds. He and Link are the only chefs still cooking WM ROMs for the Rhodium.

I also made some edits to the OP for clarity.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Thanks for your hard work.

Just one thing to clarify, my EVO series run WM6.5.x build 21690.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Fixed it. Sorry. That's what I get for rushing through it. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] staatsof:
Great to find this thread

I've got a Tilt2 that I've had in stock configuration for a few months now and I'm looking here because I'm hoping one of these custom ROMs will make this device a lot more acceptable.

It's a daunting task to navigate one's way through all of these threads as well as feel comfortable with what's required to accomplish installing a custom ROM.

This thread consolidates the task and thanks so much for that. One can become lost in the techie weeds very quickly here.

So is there a place you can point me to where a summary explanation of what each of these ROMs can provide?

Is there also a spot where users rate their experiences with them?

Any guidance would be great.

BTW, I did see that this does some of that: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=8679651

Thanks.

Bob S.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
For a summary of each ROM, click the link to take you to that ROM's thread. Users rate their experience in those threads. There is no better way to get a feel for a ROM than to try it out. If you don't like it, simply flash a different ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] antyhero:
Who have WM 6.1 ROM for Rhodium 500 (GSM + CDMA version) ???

Who have WM 6.1 ROM for Rhodium 500 (GSM + CDMA version) ???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
XDA doesn't really do much work on WM CDMA devices. Check out PPC Geeks. They usually do CDMA ROMs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] richard_carter53:
Flashing First ROM ATT Tilt 2

Hello, Thanks to all who helped me so far, this is the first time I have attempted any of this. I apologize in advance if I seem obtuse. So far, you have helped me figure out what phone I actually have, and I have flashed HARDSPL. Now, I am ready to flash a ROM, except, I have a few questions. I want to keep the Windows Mobile office programs, like outlook, and word, etc. I have backed up all of my personal data, contacts, photos, etc, but I am not sure if I understand how to backup, and then reinstall the programs I want to keep, and yes, I have read the instructions till my eyes bleed! Also, the main reason I started down this path is because my current ATT branded tilt 2 (unlocked with T-Mobile SIM card) gets such poor reception, while my old T-Mobile touch pro 2 got excellent reception, plus, I would like to get all the ATT crap off the phone, and the keyboard has a problem with the shift function, IE it does not type what it is supposed to. That being said, I tried the link to PIM Backup, and it seems to be broken. Also, when I read about all the things you have to do in the specific ROMs after flashing I am just not sure I have the skills, that is to alter code on the phone. My current OS version is 5.2.21887 (21887.5.0.86), Manilla version 2.5.20133329.2, ROM version 2.10.502.4 (935777) WWE, Radio version 4.49.25.95, Protocol version 61.44ftc.25.40H I know this is an old phone (NIB from Ebay!), but surly there is someone who loves this one like I do, or at least I did my old touch pro 2. I would like to flash a new ROM and change to a radio that gives good reception, and maybe fixes the keyboard problem, and lets me keep the WM programs. Any advice is greatly appreciated. I have subscribed to this thread, so I hope to hear from someone, as I lost my way to the thread from this morning.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cajunflavoredbob:
In the future, please you paragraphs to organize your thoughts. It's painful to read through a giant block of text like that.

First off, you need to understand that you are NOT going to get 3G on T-Mobile with the AT&T version of the TP2. The best you're going to get is 2G (EDGE) data. As far as signal reception, that, again, is unlikely to be fixable due to the phone you picked. You can swap radios out to your heart's content, since no back up is required for that. No one is going to be able to tell you which radio is going to work best for you. Radios are HEAVILY dependent on your physical location and local towers. This means that what works best for me will not necessarily work best for someone three towns over.

Secondly, I'm going to warn you that if you are not comfortable doing any of this, then stop right here and now. You have to understand that if you do something wrong, there's a good chance you'll end up with a pretty looking paperweight instead of a cool new phone. ALWAYS be 1000% certain of what you're doing before you do it. Users such as myslef will be more than happy to answer questions, but, ultimately, it is you who must press the buttons.

To answer the rest of your questions, Office Mobile is included in a few ROMs, but not all. A quick Google search will pull up the Office cabs you need. I might have them stored away somewhere too, but a Google search would be faster than waiting for me to get around to posting them.

You're probably going to need to install a keyboard cab to get your keyboard symbols working correctly. Beyond that, pick a ROM you like and flash it. Try it out for a few days and see if it suits you. If you're happy with it, then party on. If you're unhappy, or just want to try something new, flash a new one. Just make sure you backup each time, and always task29 between flashes.