yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
1. image problem with sdcard is not possible to fix, due to the bad kernel, which is not 100% supporting 2.2 loopback and device-mapper and encryption at all.

2. Honeycomb is alot bigger task..

- no existing kernelsource and then proprietary drivers source available. all adaption of drivers and all the work needed to rewrite them.

- one thing is patching a kernel, but writing new drivers, is a fulltime task, which not many takes opon them, without financiel coverage so we do have regular jobs :-), but less to nothing for doing coding.

- again it means, migration from a unlreleased kernel source and a not even planned driver writing in place.. conclusion: don't look for 3.0 on Elocity.

finally, as no real changes towards sdcard handling in latest update fixed anything becides hdmi issues, im not rewriting all the changes in framework for that amount of changes for now.. we need a better update, before i move on it.

you can have the "/storage" solution back, but it makes alot less market apps compatible with the EloA7, so not very interesting solution.
[A7 Android Development] instigator008:
I have emailed support about the sd card problem. Maybe we all should!

http://www.elocitynow.com/support_contact.shtml
[A7 Android Development] hudd333:
I just did. Their web site says that they will not be supporting Honeycomb on the A7. Nothing definite on 2.3. They also still act like they fully (properly) support SD cards.
[A7 Android Development] witzman:
I've downloaded the v1.3 zip file three times from the mirror and each time it gives me the error message that it can't mount the update.zip file. I get a timeout every time I click the main download site and have for the last several days.

Anyone have another file they can upload from a confirmed installation to another mirror?
[A7 Android Development] hudd333:
Did you try right click on the link on page 70 of this thread and save target as..

I just tried it and it worked.
[A7 Android Development] witzman:
Did that. It just doesn't work. I'm using the same microSD that I used for the last update, so I know its not the card. The download just doesn't work for me.

I can see the contents of the zip file without problem, so it would appear that the file is not corrupt. I'm going to try extracting, then repackaging and see if that works.

EDIT - No go. It still gives me this:

-- Install from sdcard...

Finding update package...

E:Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk1p1

(No such file or directory)

E:Can't mount SDCARD:update.zip

Installation aborted.

Formatting MISC:...
[A7 Android Development] celtichazard:
Hi this is the mirror for of the Rom i uploaded to Megaupload

Please report if link is broken

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BLQ96E3I
[A7 Android Development] witzman:
That link worked fine, thanks!

Figured out the problem, and I feel stupid for not thinking to check. Apparently an SDHC microSD works better than a standard microSD. I forgot I had swapped from an SDHC card to a standard microSD a few weeks ago and totally missed it.

Anyway, the HC card worked like a charm.
[A7 Android Development] masterfred:
We should all tell eLocity about the frustration we're having with this beta tablet that most of reseller sold has "multi-touch" tablets.

With no real future with Honeycomb 3.0 this 400$ piece of crap has become really useless considering you can get an iPad2 for 499$.

Props to Dexter for all his hardwork, I really appreciate, but it's a dead end ...

We should either :

- Ask for LCD upgrade / replacement

- Buyback credit for the new A7 or A10

- Ask eLocity to hand out all the required stuff Dexter needs (aka Kernel) to port to Honeycomb.
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
1st and 2nd bolded = would be awesome

3rd bolded = also put him on their payroll for all the work he has already done to make their product usable.
[A7 Android Development] instigator008:
Since the A7 is supposedly a rebadged Aigo N700 is it possible to use it's firmware?
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
got a location to download it? i dont see it anywhere?
[A7 Android Development] instigator008:
Not yet. Another one is supposedly the Compal Naz-10. Nothing there yet either.
[A7 Android Development] middle_road:
Isn't the Aigo N700 an ARM based Processor?

That wouldn't go with the Tegra would it?

_mr
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
important is if its a Tegra ARM based model.. Tegra2 is a ARM cpu..

but just different from the snapdragon chip, so some binaries might not be so compatible.
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Email to elocity's support

Your service support sucks, you have people doing what your service team should be. Release your kernel so everyone doesn't feel like this product was a waste. Offer trade in credit from original A7 to A10. And put the emphamis dexter on your payroll since he's done more for your product with limited resources than you all have.
[A7 Android Development] 5[Strogino]:
I think they don't read emails. Too many people sent them emails, but received only small letter where StreamTV told about some troubles.

December

January

February

now March....

still troubles? Anyone did a call?
[A7 Android Development] middle_road:
Well, Heck. All the browsing and reading I've been doing in the two weeks since

I got this puppy and I never picked up on that it's an ARM...

(If there's a test later - I'll fail...)

###

I'm curious - what was/is this solution? I did some searching and browsing but didn't find anything.

Thx,

_mr
[A7 Android Development] Marbieskarb:
This sucks that Stream TV isn't being cooperative by replying to email inquires. I'm pretty happy with my A7 but the SD card thing is pretty frustrating because it prevents certain apps from being installed properly and Apps2SD doesn't work. Since they seem to not be keeping up with this device they should turn over the source/kernel information to someone who is willing to (Android is based on linux which is open source.)

As a side note to Dexter, is it possible in the next mod to have the ad-hoc fix not break the Wifi? I'm very happy with your efforts, and most of the issues are out of your control and thats why Stream TV should either keep up with this device or allow someone else to.
[A7 Android Development] immortalsoule:
The downside of these new units is that they could be behind the Elocity in de-bugging of firmwares. I can't think of a tablet i've owned that didn't go through a few upgrades before it got really stable. Also, i agree with an above statement, Elocity's support is a joke. I'm beginning to think my buying the A7 was a mistake without support. These people, whoever they are, have taken a possibly great device and coding it like an odd-ball with the SD location. I actually got one reply from them and it said "Wait for the next firmware update". But then i put my company name behind it and they were still very generic in their answer.

I may sell mine off and go for a Galaxy Tab. I hate to give up but their support is some of the worst i've ever seen.
[A7 Android Development] hudd333:
Dexter Comment

Dexter,

Could you take a look at the following thread and comment? About SD card mount issue

[Q] HARDWARE or driver problem???? microsd card not seen
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
do not spam this thread, with such nonsense!

it is NOT a solution,
[A7 Android Development] jtodaro:
Dexter, is there a way of getting updated iptables kernel modules for this ROM? The reason I ask is because it looks as if alot of the Proxy applications use iptables to facilitate this (via the NAT module) yet it isn't installed/available.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
Sorry, as no kernel source is provided, making iptables 100% ok, probably require kernel changes as well.
[A7 Android Development] ifitwasnt4u:
Thank you

Thank you for your work! I just got a A7 Tablet and love it so far. I cant wait to try this rom out.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
v1.4 on its way

- Finally cracked the sdcard issue.. so its visible and possible to scan for music etc.. all working now..unmount/mount works now.

- update is also 100% rebuild and based on the latest 24-02 update from Elocity.

- new calendar app, should work 100% now.

- added patched 10.2 flashplayer with HULU support (read more on enabling it here)

Being uploaded.. ill update this post when its ready.
[A7 Android Development] ninetoes49:
yea this is great cant wait

thanks for all your hard work
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
Just noticed the other day that my USB storage isn't showing up at all (never bothered to use a flash drive). Will this also be corrected?

Edit: should have said I am currently running 1.3 with no bt patch.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
didn't add it here.. but im guessing it would if i did :-)
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Dexter you need to have a dexter animation boot, lets lose the elocity branding at start up. It is your rom not theirs lol!
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
Aww, you have no idea how ironic that is lol.

I was messing around with it last night while xda was down, trying to get USB storage to work. When I finally gave up I thought to myself "Eh, it'll get fixed when 1.4 gets released"
[A7 Android Development] 855Elm:
Installed ElocityMod 1.4 after wipe/factory reset but cannot access SD card nor USB memory stick....there is message "preparing external storage" on the top and that is it ...before with Mod 1.3 and BT fix SD card would not be shown in seetings but with file manager I could access SD card or USB stick get pictures watch movies...Any suggestion?...

Thanks a lot

Regards
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
@855Elm

probably news: but since sdcard now is enabled, you get mediascanner running, and its really not fast if you got many files..
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
since its using a different handler for sdcard, im not sure if its that simple to get working, but ill check it.. and its seems only to handle one usbstick where the handler i use, actually support usb hubs as well :-) but the initial one should be an easy fix in the /etc/vold.fstab alone.
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
Awesome, when you have a chance could you post the line to add to vold.fstab ?

I was messing around in it last night, but the device paths weren't making 100% sense to me.
[A7 Android Development] 855Elm:
See if you can find out if that is 1.4 version issue or applies to my configuration only - it woould be highly appreciated...by the way I do not see SD card in the setting either ( as before)...

By the way everytime new mod comes out I loose my configuration and installed applications, network and email setting...is there an elegant solution to back up data before installing new Mod so I do not need to go thru the process again?

Thanks
[A7 Android Development] wizwith:
Thank you so much Dex!

Do we also need to run the BT patch and/or AdHoc patch with 1.4 or is it all inclusive?

WW
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
its a complete rebuild, so the BT should be fully working.. i tested several times setting up the new mod, so im sure it works fine..
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
only solution is the "Titanium backup".. but i think it works without wipe.. i use my sign'r, which means its still pretty much signed as previous releases..

but all apk's from elocity is now pretty much original, only a few got resign'd.

but test and let others know if a flash without wipe works, i cannot verify as i simply do too many tests here both with and without clearing data storage.
[A7 Android Development] 855Elm:
Well, the thing is that I did without wipe the first time around and all the apps stayed but since SD card and USB did not work I thought it was mandatory to do so in order mod to be correctly installed...anyway now I will wait until I see if there is a resolution to this issue and if not I will go back to 1.3...

Regards
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Not to worried about losing information had moved all emulated roms to my sdcard and my full metal alchemist season 2 as well. so just gotta get a couple apps again no biggy.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
make usb sticks mount

append this line into vold.fstab

dev_mount usbdisk /mnt/sdcard/usb0-disk auto /devices/platform/tegra-ehci.0 /devices/platform/tegra-ehci.0/usb1 /devices/platform/tegra-ehci.1/usb2 /devices/platform/tegra-ehci.2/usb3

and make a folder in /mnt/sdcard called usb0-disk

and usb sticks works.

of course: end with a reboot
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Just curious is this something that could be added to the 1.4v update?
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
ill look into this, if possible..

making patches for A7, is not as easy as normal.. some problems with mounted filesystems cause issues..

btw,

in post #1 is a bootanimation (honeycomb) added now.. those who can put it onto their /system/media folder, can already enjoy using it.

(will be added with next update)
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Hmm wish the 360 controller mod was made into a patch that could be flashed.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
i think might do another quick update soon (not tonight)

found some minor issues:

- VPN does not work (vpn panel available using launcherpro or using "vpn show" from market) problem was a script not set to be runnable.

- Skype does not work anymore.. missing parameter to be disabled in build.prop

- on top, i got the usb disk working (still need a permanent fix to create /sdcard/usb0-disk folder)

- added honeycomb animation

so some changes, but no majors as i see it. but can be added..

i got vpn working, so i can confirm hulu.com works fine.. :-)
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
Usb trick worked.

Line2 isn't working anymore tho. Possibly same issue as Skype?

Is it possible to mount usb to root dir like /usbdisk/ ?
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
no, sorry.. the framework actually points to /mnt/sdcard/usb0-disk , so thats why its working..same with Settings.apk i changed up front of the release..
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
I did mine as /mnt/sdcard/usb-disk0 and it worked fine. How strict is it?
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
i do not see that working, as framework only recognise usb0-disk as a valid mount, so you must have done some path cross mapping to make it work.

although vold.fstab says usb-disk0 , framework will then not give you the option to unmount it, but it will still mount at your location i think, but then it becomes a problem, and its not scanned for images/vids
[A7 Android Development] immortalsoule:
Dexter, i've run into a really unusual problem.

After doing a wipe, update, reboot, it boots fine. But when i touch the android to get started....nothing happens. It won't acknowledge the touch.

It will acknowledge the "change language" button but not the one to start the setup.

It will even turn the droid white when i touch it as if it knows i'm touching it.

I've tried, twice, to reinstall the update. No change.

I'm thinking the ROM might have gotten corrupted in the transfer over the network. I use File Expert and, while it's an awesome apps, sometimes wireless transfers get a little mixed up. Especially the larger ones.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
if you deleted something in the apps folder or the "wipe" didnt actually do what its supposed to do.. it could fail.. never heard about that problem becides that btw..
[A7 Android Development] 855Elm:
I think a quick 1.41 Elocitymod would be nice... to fix several issues we have just reported...I am sure that we all are putting a lot of pressure on Dexter but it seems that he is on the top of it...

Thanks a lot again

Regards
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
as Danes would say: Boob boob...

what "issues"? :-) i reported findings of minor issues, but nothing major as i see it...it still works better now..

but yes, ill make a 1.41 during this week after work..now its close to bedtime.
[A7 Android Development] immortalsoule:
That's why i amended my post, i think the rom got corrupted on a wifi transfer from PC to tablet. I'm guessing it will solve the problem. Sometimes transfers get corrupted while copying, especially large ones.
[A7 Android Development] immortalsoule:
Yup, corrupted rom on the transfer. I think i'm gonna toy around with some decently cool custom boot animations.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
little OT, but probably best place to write it.

Nvidia is currently adding more boards to their latest GIT builds.. we might see support for Honeycomb soon on this board too!!!

the naz00 board, might actually be "NAZ" which identifies our vendor/tab a little too :-)
[A7 Android Development] immortalsoule:
Do you think there's the slightest possibility they will incorporate the installation to SD feature? It would save a ton of space. I know this subject was brought up before but i just don't believe in words like "impossible" and "cant" since i've been coming to XDA. They have broken so many barriers here and done so much cross-platform work that i believe anything is possible given time.
[A7 Android Development] 855Elm:
I am not sure if the rest of the guys who tried Elocity MOd 1.4 have problems of accessing SD Card and USb stick...Both worked fine in ver 1.3 with BT fix (I did not care that Tablet did not report presence of SD card but it could be seen in File Manager and Photo Galeries could see all the photos stored ...now it is blank)...that is the only issue I have...as I said if I am the only one I dont have problem going back to 1.3 which worked fine...

Regards
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
On current 1.4 I am getting app crashes with no FC message. Booted into recovery and cleared cache again to no avail.
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
Just redownloaded and did a new fresh install since my first 1.4 install was copied few times to get it on my microsd.

From fresh install the only thing I did was install angry birds. Same results, app crash with no FC message. :(
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Try clear cache and wipe. I was having lots of fcs not any in a I also put angry birds on. Can you see or accessyour sd card?
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
I always do wipe/clear cache with every rom install. I don't trust leaving any fragments of a previos install. So that step is done.

I can see/use my sd. And with Dexter's directions I was able to get usb working on my previous 1.4 install.
[A7 Android Development] sdialect31:
I had issues for a moment but, I downloaded 1.4 again and paid close attention to size of final downloaded file. Previous attempts were undersized (less than 104MB) and failed various ways after flashing. Until I got a full 104MB download all sorts of problems occurred. So if your download suddenly finishes up quickly, check the size.
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
@rombold: I just did another wipe/clear and still having the same issues.

@sdialect31: file size is good.

Since my only installed app is angry birds right now, I'll use that as my example.

Instead of waiting for a random crash, I have found that I can reliably recreate the crash every time by trying to manually restart any level.

Edit: turns out it is any interaction with the pause screen.
[A7 Android Development] il12941:
Same problem here ,skype crashes as well , sdcard stuck on "checking errors" , i had to reflsh it several time as i couldnt pass the "tap android to start".
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
although it actually mount if you re-insert, the bootup issue with the sdcard is that i think its not happy about mounting on top of another mountpoint..

this handler is not made this way, so example: sdcard mountpoint first, and its not possible as the /mnt/sdcard is not writable, and no sdcard-disk can be created. so thats problably why..

i will move mounts away from /mnt/sdcard for sdcard and usb sticks.. then its not happening anymore
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
if you do get FC's.. only way out if WIPE (factory reset) clearing /data & /cache

/cache alone does not solve anything, as its just a temporary file bufffer, dalvik cache is placed in /data and all signatures as well. which probably cause all FC for some.
[A7 Android Development] il12941:
Hey Dexter i did do a factory reset.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
the build.prop change like made for Skype, might also be causing other apps to close, but that means a stock A7 rom is really bad? as this is not part of stock rom at all..

but ill try and make the new image asap (tonight CET+1)
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
I was having fc crash on market alot and just re flashed the update and it seemed to fix it in my case atleast how ever cannot access sd not from IO or astro only to do update.
[A7 Android Development] il12941:
Really appreciate your effort Dexter.
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
Thanks Dexter, your efforts have saved this device from many dumpsters around the world :)

But are you really surprised about an eLocity oem rom being crap? lol
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
maybe not that much.. :-)

but never saw this as being a fix in general, more like Skype fix alone and nothing else.. i hardly see apps becides skype closing (it actually does not fc here, just closes when build.prop is wrong)
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
This may be what I was trying to describe.

To my understanding, when an app FC's there will be a message saying "Sorry, the process com.blah.blah.blah has closed unexpectedly..."

However what is happening to me is that the app just closes, no message.

Everything seems to be going well, then all of a sudden *poof* home screen.

So I would say that what I am experiencing is not technically a force close.
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Love the keyboard and everything else. Would just like working SD, praying for kernel release soon.

Has anyone ran quadrant standard on this I wasn't testing the 12 cpu and my result was 1300's
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
my total score is still the same: 2500+ nothing to do about it unless we get loopback device support, and we might be able to tweak in/output io performance a little which works great on folio100, so i guess it could help here too. but its a minor somehow.. (io perf can go +900 when enabled, we got from 2200 on folio100 to 3100+)

device works quite nice already
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Why is mine scoring so low, why is it not testing CPUS?
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
dunno.. maybe a market version issue? i used a stored edition on sdcard here..
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
? question misunderstood... move2sd is already part of 2.2? so you mean its gone in 3.0?
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
With our folio100 i just made a Quadrant 3000+ breakthrough, when im confident in this, ill make it happen for Elocity as well..

and of course remove twitter,facebook,voicesearch app etc, so its easy to update.
[A7 Android Development] hecntina:
Sounds like the makings of a real winner. Thanks for your diligence!
[A7 Android Development] awsumopossum:
You sir are 1337. Cant wait :)
[A7 Android Development] manfly9884:
Thanks Dexter. Running your latest ROM and this thing is flying.

Ran Quadrant........ Score: 2647 :-)
[A7 Android Development] alynch75:
Just started the update process for your current file.. its been in update mode for 10 minutes.. can you help me.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
you need to factory reset in recovery, and filename is required to be Update.zip with uppercase "U" .
[A7 Android Development] Lindarose84:
I actually did the update through the settings menu (as outlined on the elocity website) and placed the update zip (didn't capitalize the u) in the root of the sd and everything turned out fine. I did end up in a boot loop after the update finished but a simple reset cured that.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
you got nand internal memory, we got mmc(sdcard) memory here, so much slower for us..

im not sure now, if my performance tweak will help elocity machine so much as nand is already quite good, but expensive..