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[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Drey.Tee:
Yep!

Thanks it does matter. Formatted with mke2fs -b 4096 -t ext3 and voila:

1) after 1st restart (just restart after partitioning) i've got old default launcher and default apps only.

2) Mounted sd via usb and found /app dir in my 512 ext3 partition, full of apks, which I had installed manually.

3) copied app2sd.zip to fat32 part, reooted, installed it via xRecovery.

4) rebooted again and was close to stuck with repeating message about "LauncherPro process has died unexpectedly. Sorry for inconvenience" with Close button. After pushing this button message reappeared again and again.

5) Doing things fast I called home screen selection dialogue after 2 or 3 minutes of fastclicking and selected default home. phew! after it I've reinstalled LauncherPro and checked app2sd like this:

# cd /data/app && pwd

and got:

/system/sd/app

Thanks peetr_!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
ijama, your app2sd is working

fznx

now we should make sure, that you can make link in your phone

try to write in adb shell

"su"

"ln -s /system/sd/app /data/xxx"

then you should find with rootexplorer this "xxx" in data folder

and it should link you to the system/sd/app folder

you will know it´s linked there, if you see size of your ext free space in rootexplorer

if it is there, you can delete it

then you can try to move all your apps from /data/app to /system/sd/app manually with rootexplorer

if they moved, delete the /data/app folder

and type in adb shell

"su"

"ln -s /system/sd/app /data/app"

again make sure it is created, like with the "xxx" folder

then you can reboot and pray :)

if it boots, give me your app2sd.log

if not, restore from xrecovery :)

edit: Maybe your rootexplorer force closes after moving apps, but if you reboot normally, it should be fine
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
Like i wrote, app2sd in 2.1 fw is not a perfect method, but it´s working :)

I´m glad it´s working for you too :)

Rather install your launcher pro to /system/app folder, like i have it.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] fznx:
ln -s /system/sd/app /data/app

link failed File exists

forgot to delete the folder, rebooting now

yeooooow /data/app linked to sd :D buut is it right that its in both locations or is it just mirrored cuz its linked now? :DD
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
you have to delete the /data/app folder first

Great :)

It´s only link to system/sd/app now

Try one more reboot, and look at app2sd.log one more time
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] fznx:
thanks so much for the help, bout time it worked argh, so when i install new apps ill have to move them each time?

hmm when i try to install apps it says i have insufficient space D:
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
No, every new app, installs to SD.

Don´t forget to never unplug the card, while the phone is turned on.

edit:try one more reboot
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] fznx:
tried rebooting twice, the log has the same msg saying it has successfully merged or w/e annd still wont let me install apps, tried on market and apk's sitting in my sd, nothing wants to work argh
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
give me "ls -l /data" one more time

can you execute your apps?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] fznx:
# lrwxrwxrwx root root 1980-05-31 12:33 app -> /system/sd/app

drwx------ system system 1980-05-31 12:30 backup

drwxrwxrwx root root 1980-05-31 12:34 radio

drwxrwxr-x system system 1980-05-31 12:34 system

drwxrwx--x system system 1980-05-31 12:28 anr

drwxrwxr-x root root 1980-05-31 12:27 etc

drwxr-xr-x idd idd 1980-05-31 12:33 idd

drwxrwxrwx system system 1980-05-31 12:31 crashsms

drwxr-xr-x system system 1980-05-31 12:27 tombstones

drwxrwx-wx system system 1980-05-31 12:27 semc-checkin

drwxrwxrwx root root 1980-05-31 12:33 DxDrm

drwxrwx--x system system 1980-05-31 12:30 dalvik-cache

drwx------ root root 1980-05-31 12:34 property

drwxrwx--x system system 1980-05-31 12:27 app-private

drwxrwx--x system system 1980-05-31 12:30 data

drwxrwx--x shell shell 1980-05-31 12:27 local

drwxrwx--t system misc 1980-05-31 12:27 misc

-rw-r--r-- root root 13275136 2010-08-27 17:25 dop.iso

drwxrwx--x system system 2010-12-22 18:23 kernel-tests

drwxr-x--- root log 1980-05-31 12:27 dontpanic

drwxrwx--- root root 1980-05-31 12:27 lost+found

drwxrwx--x system system 2010-12-22 18:23 data_test

#
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] fznx:
yeah got my widgets, annd launcher on the sd card so everythings launching and such just nothing will install now :/
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
As i thought, after reboot, there is no link anymore.

First try to install app2sd.zip again.

If it won´t help, try to reinstall the busybox and copy the busybox file from xrecovery again.

http://www.edisk.cz/stahni/31319/busybox.apk_1.11MB.html

edit: ups i am blind, the link is there :)

lrwxrwxrwx root root 1980-05-31 12:33 app -> /system/sd/app

If it wouldn´t, you could not launch apps.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] fznx:
any idea why i cant install? might just give up for a while and sleep haha almost 6 in the morning
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
Try to wipe dalvik-cache in xrecovery.

Here i have 8 pm, so it´s ok :)

Now i realized, that you made your partition as logical and i didn´t noticed.

So you have to make restore in xrecovery,

then create ext3 partition with 4096b block size and must be as primary!

Insert sdcard install app2sd.zip again - has to be working...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] fznx:
FARRKKKK YEAHHH! its working, thankyou very much mate :D finaly!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Drey.Tee:
How I can choose where to install? I like the idea to install little useful apps to internal memory.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] kiwiBratwurst:
Does that affect LP updates in Market? :confused: I have been thinking about doing this for a while.. :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
Just copy the com.fede.launcher.apk from system/sd/app into system/app folder, change its permissions there, to be the same as other apps and then delete -

com.fede.launcher... in data/data

com.fede.launcher... in data/dalvik-cache

com.fede.launcher.apk in system/sd/app

or maybe unistall launcher pro after copying - should be working too

and restart

Updates on launcher pro are not so frequent and if some, just repeat this procedure with the new one apk.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ijama:
My app2sd log say error at the end line..its show my app2sd not working or working?please tell me..and how to move app to sd..when install any app from market sumtime my internal memory decrease..why?

Sent from my E10i
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] kiwiBratwurst:
Sweet.. Copied launcher pro+ along with a few other useful apps (Rootexplorer etc) to the system/app folder then I installed apps2SD and its working fine but seems mobile Data has stopped working :mad: (at least WiFi still works.. it might be unrelated to Apps2sd, I only noticed at about 12:30 last night/morning so went to sleep.. now I have a few hours to try and find out why thats stopped working.. :rolleyes: )
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
ijama - if it says error, then you dont have app2sd working - make sure your ext partition is made as primary

kiwiBratwurst - which one of E10 phones do you have? E10i or E10a? Maybe it´s because of some permissions. I have E10i and installation without this problem. Try to make "fix permissions" in xRecovery.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] kiwiBratwurst:
Cheers for that, I have an E10i too.. (the "fix permissions" was one of the first things I did after installing apps2sd, I figured it couldn't hurt :D ) I have also been screwing with a lot of other things over the last few days, so it could have been any number of things.. I rebooted, switched my network traffic to HSDPA only then back to mixed mode again and it seems to have given it the kick in the butt it needed (I also had a network widget that needed "re-installing" that might have been screwing with it to)o.. all working again now tho :)

after sticking back on all my games (I had removed to save space) and also Navigon (which takes up 20MB) I still have about 100MB free (I only made a 350MB ext3 partition, its all I need).. plus I have too much Music on my 8gig card to warrant any more room for Apps. MIght be something in this apps2sd thing after all :o
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
Cheers,

i am glad app2sd helped you after all.

It´s not too good method, but we have very few internal memory, so it´s almost requisite.

Once in a while, i must apologize for my lame English again :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ijama:
Done it before..bt what make me questions is..when I intall any apk..my internal memory stick..not decrease..i refer to titanum my ext3 memory space decrease..tried remove my sd..my phone dunn work..after insert my sd back..my mini working normal..any explaination

Sent from my E10i
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] sirkula:
1. I have 8GB card how big partitions must be....

2. Do I just transfer "app2sd.dc2sd.ext4.zip" to root of SD card and install it with xRecovery or...

3. I allready have some apps installed will they be transferd automaticly to SD card after installing this or must I installl them again....
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
ijama - Like i wrote, after app2sd install, you should not turn on the phone without SD untill necessary (card broken).

sirkula -

1. 500MB ext3 will be enough

2. right

3. will be transferd, sometimes some app needs to be reinstalled
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ijama:
So my app2sd not working when I remove the sd..what I should do..

Sent from my E10i
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
Insert SD, reboot and maybe reinstall some apps, if they are force closing.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] sirkula:
I installed it, witout any errors etc. now in normal setting under SD card & phone storage setting I have 200 MB free and in Root explorer in folder /data/app it says 58.83 used, 1.34GB free, r/w so I guess everything is OK, but when I install some app. internal phone storage decreases from 200MB to 186MB (installed opera mobile)...is this ok? will it continue to use sd card exe3 partition free space when I run out of internal memory or is it supose to use exe3 space first?....

...Only after installing Opera Mobile internal memory decreases 15 MB, after that I've installed more apps. and internal memory doesn't decrease anymore, so I guess it works finally...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
There are still some data and settings stored in /data/data folder. So the memory will still slightly decrease.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ijama:
So how to resolved this..reinstalled app2sd via xrecovery..then restore back all my application..please lemme know

Sent from my E10i
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ijama:
How to make dc2sd..

Sent from my E10i
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] xnomox:
So, do not restart the phone without the SDcard.

But, am I going to have any problem if I unmount my SDcard, remove the card and return it back while the phone is on?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
Do not unmount SDcard while the phone is on. Rather install "Multimount" from the Market and connect the phone with cable. Or turn the phone off, take out the sd card, copy your files, insert sd card and turn on the phone.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] nico_l:
Does it work for the mini pro?

Maybe a noob question, but I messed up my phone too often with the "other" apps2sd: Does this one work with the mini pro?

OK, I can also confirm it working with the mini pro :-) Thanks a lot to peetr_ and donetus!

btw, x10 mini pro, german branded o2 rom, sd-card fat32 and then ext3 both primary, xrecovery beta (of course) working ... root applied with z4root
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
Should be working with mini pro too, there should be the same file structure, but i don´t have mini pro to test that.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] donetus:
tested on my mini pro .. works great ..

in the app2sd via ext2, when you run a script, there's an option to remove app2sd. is there an option here for app2sd via ext3?

i'm curious 'coz, what if i need to change my sd card.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
Thanks for testing on mini pro.

Uninstaller could be done, but while uninstalling, you will probably have too much apps on SD and there will be too little space in your internal memory to move them all.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] donetus:
^^ i see .. i'm just anticipating it just in case my memory card got corrupted .. installing program has never really been an issue for me but for some i guess, it'll be an issue ..
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ldjh1985:
worked fine here mate, thanks very much 1gb for programs might be a tad too much lol i might decrease to 500mb.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Dricos:
Does it work on custom rom that installed app2sd before?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] dettofatto:
Only one tips:

For recover your files on ext2 or ext3 I suggest to use ubuntu live cd...

I can't read these files with windows 7....
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] donetus:
i'm not sure but i think you can also use Droid Explorer for you to access the ext2 files but i haven't tried it yet.

btw, since i have app2sd via ext3 installed, if i also want to move the dalvik-cache on my sd card, do i just simply run xRecovery and install the custom file?

or should i uninstall the programs i've installed first?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] rockthenet:
Hey Folks,

finally I need some help to get my App2SD installed.

So does this needed ext2/3 or 4 partition needs to be active(primary) or local ?

I tried it a few times with an 500MB ext3 local (and an active 15GB fat32 partition) but unfortunately it doesn’t work till now…

Thanks in advance
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] pratyush_gamer:
Solution!!!

Dude if u want to use App2SD pls follow these steps in correct order-: :cool:

1.If u already installed sum app in internal memory,then pls do Factory reset,in order to install all apps to SD and to free Interal memory.

2.Backup ur SD card files on system.

3.Delete ur SD partition with the help Mini partition magic(If u have)

4.create SD partition in 2.

5.first partition must b of FAT32(primary not logical),for keeping of ur files(Music,Wall,Videos)pls make the size as per ur need.

6.Second partition is ext3 partition which also must b primary (stores installed apps).pls make it larger than 500MB.

7.Reboot phone and make it on xRecovery.

8.Back-up ur phone first.

9.Install app2sd via xRecovery.(install custom zip).

http://www.mediafire.com/?b5jfy3vsowy912f

10.Reboot,it will take time to startup.

11.HAPPY INSTALLING!!!::D

*if u wanna know that how much u used,then install Drive Watch app from market!*

Can PM me if you need more help:rolleyes:
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] rockthenet:
Thanks for your support, now it's working fine. App2sd is installed on my PRIMARY ext3 partition.

So this was exactly what I’ve done wrong in the beginning…

Further more 500 MB is totally fine for me (till now ;-) … and the apps also moved automatically – so no reinstall / factory reset needed at all!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] farsight73:
Anyone know how to clear or delete the dalvik cache?

Titanium back up has it one click in settings, but required the donate pro version.

Also, is it actually safe to clear or delete dalvik cache?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] pratyush_gamer:
hAPPY TO HELP!!!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] donetus:
question, how come when i ran the zip file (app and dc on sd card), the Application program can't detect the installer apks on my sd card?

i saved a back-up apks just in case i need to install it again but now i can't access it.

any ideas?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] pratyush_gamer:
Maybe there is any defect in ur partition.......or maybe u used the apps when....sd card is mounted to the system......
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] donetus:
my sd card isn't mounted and the partition that i've set is ext3 primary... also the Root Explorer that i've installed went missing.

weird
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] pratyush_gamer:
Thats mysterious!!!!!......which ROM you are using????........I also got that situation with App2sd,when i was using SE default 2.1 update 1 version.......Maybe its all about compatibility........Well i say pls try again!!!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
donetus -

What is the content of /sqlite_stmt_journals/app2sd.log
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] donetus:
^^ will try to redo the steps again and post the results here later .. i switched back to the app2sd without moving the dalvik-cache ..

although i'd be saving lots of space on my phone but it'll cause problems though if i change my memory card ..

now, i'm wishing that there'd be an undo program for this ..
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] donetus:
here's what's written on my app2sd.log

Dalvik-cache dir on SD present - linked/reconstructed to SD

App dir on SD present if some apps installed in /data/app - moved to SD

com.adobe.psmobile.apk

com.apkinstall.zip

com.aurorasoftworks.quadrant.ui.advanced.apk

com.bigtincan.android.adfree.apk

com.cooliris.media.apk

com.cootek.touchpal.zip

com.digitalchocolate.androiddynamite.zip

com.digitalchocolate.androidroller.zip

com.easyfilter.android.apk

com.facebook.katana.apk

com.google.android.apps.maps.apk

com.google.zxing.client.android.apk

com.joelapenna.foursquared.apk

com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup.apk

com.logmein.ignitionpro.android.apk

com.outfit7.talkinghippo.apk

com.outfit7.talkingtompro.apk

com.ramdroidstudios.livewallpaper.fireflies.apk

com.rechild.advancedtaskkillerpro.apk

com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore.apk

com.speedsoftware.rootexplorer.apk

com.yahoo.mobile.client.android.im.apk

net.osmand.apk

uk.co.neilandtheresa.Vignette.apk

/data/app linked to SD

==

i still encounter the same problem. usually on the app2sd (without dc on the sd card), when i run the Application app, it scans for APKs on my sd card. but when i tried the app2sd (with dc on sd card), Application app says "No supported files".

not sure what's wrong though. i can use a different installer program but of course, i still want to know what went wrong
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] peetr_:
Did you try to reinstall the app installer? Just find it in /system/sd/app with root explorer, tap on it and make install.

Another interesting thing is, that the App installer has .zip extension. Check this out. I see that first time.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] donetus:
there's no apk for the App installer but yes, there's a App installer zip file. i never changed anything there when i installed the custom zip. i just reflashed my phone, root my phone via superoneclick, installed the custom.zip and that's it.

First, I tried to copy the zip file to my sd card and changed it's extension name to apk, i get a message that says "Application not installed". do i need to set permissions for this?

also, i've tried changing the /system folder from r/o to r/w, still the same thing.

so i went to /system/sd/app and renamed it from .zip to .apk. i restarted the phone and icon changed to something like the 'market' icon and when i tried to run it, it gives and error and the program crashes.

can someone provided me a copy of App installer so that i can try it? i'll try to uninstall it first then install it.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] pratyush_gamer:
I think its time for you to replace your Memory Card:cool:
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] donetus:
why should i replace it? it's working without any problem. i've asked a friend who has the same phone that i have, and he said that he, too, doesn't have the APK but just a zip file.

i've done this twice and twice it has happened. but as what i've mentioned, if it's just the usuall app2sd (without transfering the dalvik-cache), Application Installer is working.

=====

update:

i've requested an Application Install apk from a local messageboard. it was taken from an x10 mini. i've downloaded it and the app is now working.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] pratyush_gamer:
Congrats than!!!;)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] wspiders:
compatible with x10 mini pro, with 2.0.A.0.504 :confused:

i install this on my phone, but the .apk are in:

data/app

and also in:

system/sd/app :(

if i delete any, the application is disappears

Please, somebody help me.....what happens:confused:
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] DaRk_dOg:
!!!

Mate you seem noob, so read this carefuly:

When you make an App2SD installation, you actually link /data/app on /system/sd/app (/system/sd/app is storing apps in the ext3 partition of your sd).

In simple words /data/app is like a shortcut to /system/sd/app.

When you delete an app from /data/app, you actually delete it from /system/sd/app!

Be careful next time and also do some reading.

Regards, D_d
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] wspiders:
thank....

but my problem is who the .apk in: data/app is of the same size than the /system/sd/app

Example:

data/app/Opera.apk...............[45.3mb]

system/sd/app/Opera.apk........[45.3mb]

data/app/Root Explorer.apk...........[2mb]

system/sd/app/Root Explorer.apk...[2mb]

is this normal:confused:
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] pratyush_gamer:
Dude as D_d said that the data/app take the reference of the data in system/sd...........theres the point if both are the same files how it could differ in size!!!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] wspiders:
then I should do:confused:
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] farsight73:
Did partition fat32 and ext2(512mb) both primary. Then place the app2sd.ext4.zip to the root of my sdcard. Reboot and run xrecovery. Choose install custom.zip and run, completed install and reboot phone. Phone restarting itself twice and normal again. But all my installed apps are disappeared from menu. Tried restart phone several time but still the same with no installed apps showing in the menu. Internal memory shows boost from 81mb to 122mb but apart from this nothing show installed apps in the menu. I don't see my busybox fail as xrecovery can performed backup & restore as well as running titanium backup and root explorer flawlessly.

1) When is it that I required to performed full factory reset via xrecovery?

2) Can I re-do the installation steps app2sd.ext4.zip again on top of the existing ext2 without reformat it? (since the first attempts was failed)

3) My formatted SDcard in fat32 already having file folders prior running the app2sd installation if that matter here.

4) Any step that I might missing here prevened me from successfully install app2sd process

Note: Model x10 mini pro: U20i

SDcard: 8GB with 512mb for Ext2

Did a full restore from xrecovery backup. Everythings back to where they belongs.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] maikonbona:
I used the ext3 partition, and it worked perfectly.

Thanks.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] farsight73:
Yea.. redo partition to ext3 and everything's worked now except some apps need to reinstall back due to fc.

Answer back to my own questions above.

1) Full factory reset via xrecovery? Not required.

2) Did format back only partition ext2 to ext3 without touching fat32 section. Using minitool partition wizard.

3) Worked great even folders already in the fat32 area. Just copy & paste the app2sd.ext4.zip will do the job done.

4) All steps were correctly followed but somehow it doesn't take ext2 in my sdcard. replaced it with ext3 and whoolllaaa!..

Thanks to the OP and others for the great great great tutorials and inputs that makes my day brighter than yesterday...

Note: xrecovery really safe my ass from bricking the phone.. Powerfull tool must have in any android platform.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] racila_alexandru:
Hi guys,

Do you know where I can get the root explorer. I searched it in Market but I didn't find them.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] farsight73:
Don't remember where I got it. Should'nt it available from the market??