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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkAngel00:
yes volume - is the button on left side (the button used to down the volume)

you havo to switch off the phone, wait 2 sec. then press and hold "volume-" then press power button just for 1-2 sec. keeping volume- pressed. then release all keys and the phone go to hboot screen.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorglub!:
Hi DarkAngel

Exactly what I did...press Vol -, then press Power, then release Vol -...and the thing boots as normal.

If, in addition, I press the trackball while I replay the above scenario, after a few seconds I'm getting a white screen with Htc logo...and a few seconds later, the Desire boots up...( initial boot where to have to enter yr PIN code...)

What am I supposed to get if the tel behaved as expected ?

Strange no ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
You don't release volume down until the HBOOT screen comes up
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkAngel00:
no man, press vol- and keep it pressed, then press power, release power keeping vol- pressed, afret few second hboot menù display, then release vol-
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorglub!:
Arrrrgh !!!

i found what was wrong...the culprit is my SIM card !!!

Once removed,i've got the Hboot screen (tells me that I have HBOOT 8.03.0001...)

next step, save the whole system ( make an image ? ) and, once this is done, i'll jump to the Goldcard stuff...

Any way, thks very much for yr concern !!!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkAngel00:
you have to use unrevooked to root your phone and install a custom recovery (Clock Work or amon-RA)

after this go into hboot (vol- and power) wait 2-3 sec and (using vol + vol - you can move the selection, using power button you confirm the selection) select "recovery"

the custom recovery start

to navigate use the optical pad and click it to confirm selection

go to backup&restore

then backup

after this in sd card will be created a backup of your phone (called nand backup/nandroid backup)

use "back" key to return to clockwork menù

then hit reboot

(i have to restore the backup immediatly because at the reboot my phone goes in boot loop)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorglub!:
Another problem...unrevoked3 does not seem to work for me..

I think I did things allright ( uninstall htcSync, install good USB drivers, have tel in debug usb mode);

unrevoked starts, I see hte Desire beiing rebootd several times but at the end, instead of Done!, i'm getting an Internal Error message : am reported error starting service;

stictly no idea where it comes from !!!

thks again for yr help...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkAngel00:
install htc sync

remove only htc sync (not htc driver and htc bmp driver)

connect the phone activating usb debug

install driver that comes with unrevoked

the run unrevoked with "run as admin"

use unrevoked 3.22 it worked for me
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mortenmhp:
Hmm am i the only one, who haven't seen this hboot version before? Mine have 0.93 something. Never seen 8.03? Are you sure that's what it said?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
I'm guessing a typo and it should be 0.83
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorglub!:
Finally i've got it !!!

i've been given a new version of unrevoked ( a modified 3.3 I think...) which worked...

i've been able to root, make a backup...and now, i'm ready to get rid off my branded Rom and get a custom one...

Thks guys for yr concern...helped me much !!!

cheers
[G Tablet General] HorsexD:
I have a weird issue with Rom Manager on my G Tab Running Beta 5 (Soon 5.1) Idk If anyone else has this but when I go to Rom Manager app and backup my setting (works fine) then go to Manage and Restore Backups it doesnt show I Backed up anything But when I Boot into Recovery the backup I made is there. Evreything works fine, I just cant see my backup from the actual RomManager app. Weird :confused:
[G Tablet General] al_butler@hotmail.com:
Try NVFlash with CWM

Hello

I have started changing my GTab, which I purchased in May from TigerD.

Here are my specifics:

Model: UPC300-2.2

Android OS Version: 2.2

Tap UI: 1.2-4349

Kernel: 2.6.32.9-000001-q0e0C333-dirty

Build FRS91

I'd just like to drop a note and let people know who are having difficulty installing CWM on their tab.

I could not get it to install. There was an error, which I can't remember what it was; when I attempted to install the software from my external SD Card.

I didn't disable the tab as it would always boot and I was trying both internal and external with no results. (Update was always ignored).

Actually I may have tried installing the internal from the external and got my self into a mess.

Anyways if you have difficulty; just follow this URL and you'll not only get back your original install but also CWM.

viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com nvflash.htm

Just follow the instructions and you should be okay.Now I'm off to look at new ROMS.

Appreciate the work on this everyone. I wouldn't have purchased this product if this information was not around.

Regards Al
[General Topics] MaybachMan:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/31/android-still-has-horrible-text-messaging-bugs-thatll-get-you-f/

Is this really a widespread problem, or is it more Engadget anti-Android propaganda?
[General Topics] codewisp:
Not sure but I haven't experienced it in almost a year of using several android devices.
[General Topics] TheBiles:
I use Handcent, so I have no idea what they're talking about.
[General Topics] vbetts:
Read the source links.
[General Topics] NicholasQ:
For the record, I love android. I hate all the anti-android crap going around. But I have experienced this before. One time upon booting up, my contacts were all mixed up with the wrong numbers. It was so weird. My friend became my dads name on there and another friend became my cousins whom I never texted. So when they texted me I saw the names and was like wtf? How do they know about (whatever we were chatting about earlier). Took another reboot and everything was fine. I also experienced the phone clicking on the wrong thread that I pressed, that definitely happens. I've learned to double check who Im texting.
[General Topics] MaybachMan:
Is this fixed by using a different SMS app then? Apparently it happens with e-mails, too, but only with the default e-mail app.
[General Topics] tooter1:
I have been using an HD2, that dual boots WM 6.5 and Android 2.2 Froyo, never had this problem.

My daughter uses a Behold 2 and sends and receives over 16000 text messages per month, and never a problem like this.

I think it's more hate against Android, since it is starting to get a strong hold of the smartphone market.

I'm also sure it's a lot of user error too.
[General Topics] MaybachMan:
Google just updated this to critical, so I'm guessing it'll be patched pretty soon.
[General Topics] nbs11:
It happens to me at least twice a week. I actually switched to handcent it was so bad. Thankfully I never had anything truly embarrassing go to the wrong person, but I have had some confusing moment...The worst was when I carried out a long conversations with the wrong person... The problem happens when you click on the new message item in the notification menu without actually opening it up through the messaging app. You see the correct reply thread, and it is only when you press send that you realize it sent to the wrong person. This is very real, but I used to think it was just my phone.
[General Topics] gothpunk4christ:
lmao. This is just amusing.

The ONLY time I ever got the bug was when I received a new message, I used the drop down menu bar to view the message, and this was on a beta froyo build. Any time I went through the regular messaging app, everything was fine. Last I read in a forum long ago burried, only time the bug happened was when you used the drop down...
[General Topics] DKYang:
I've used Android since the G1 was released and don't remember ever experiencing this issue. But if it is an issue, then it needs media attention to get Google to fix it as quick as possible. Although, the problem is getting the fix out, since you know, all these carriers and manufacturers take forever to get an OTA out.
[General Topics] MaybachMan:
So they are now investigating this. I'll be using Handcent on my DHD until they sort it.
[General Topics] LooieENG:
16,000? I'm sure most networks in the UK have a 3,000 FUP

Anyway, I haven't experienced this issue in the 18 months I've been using Android
[General Topics] TheBiles:
I can believe 16,000. My 17 year old sister has about 10,000 a month. Unlimited texting, ftw.
[General Topics] Dinglehoofis:
I've been using Android since the release of the HTC Dream in Canada and I've never ever ever ran into this problem, and most of the ROMs I've ran have been beta or experimental. I'm thinking they're blowing it out of proportion.
[General Topics] tooter1:
When we were on Verizon, one month it was up to 39,000. I was floored. That is when I was like thank goodness for.....Unlimited Texting FTW!

Still no problems like this.
[General Topics] mxcoldhit:
I've never had this problem and Goggle has made a press release and said they are having a hard time replicating it. I think that there could be an error that happens once in a blue moon, but I think most of the time it's just user error.

Sent from my shoe, I mean....Epic shoe... I mean Samsung Epic! http://mobilehighway.blogspot.com/
[General Topics] LooieENG:
Oh yeah, I believe it. I'm just curious as to how their fingers haven't worn to the bone yet? :p
[General Topics] tknz:
Googles claiming they can't reproduce this internally and they've only upped it's status cause of bad publicity. That's what androidguys claim ...
[General Topics] nikmash232:
Yeah sometimes when I get a message I click on the thing in the drop down menu and it takes me to another thread, but I'm pretty sure the point of clicking that button is just for it to get you to the messaging app. Also sometimes I go to the messaging app and click the top thread and it takes me to a different thread. So this bug is true at times.
[General Topics] MaybachMan:
Android Guys are doing nothing but speculating. They could be right, of course, but they don't really know anything we don't.

There have been a few people who've noted that they've experienced the bug. It could be confusion caused by user error or the bug that brings up the wrong thread (and that is definitely a real bug that needs sorting), but it's still assuring to know Google is looking into it to make sure it isn't a real problem and that, if it is, they can sort it ASAP.
[General Topics] xaccers:
So it might not murder my family while I sleep?

Aw man! :(
[General Topics] tooter1:
You got me on the wearing out of the fingers...it sure is amazing how many my daughter can send.

From Dec.18 to Today, she has 7635. And this day isn't over with.
[General Topics] kareeem:
It used to happen to me like crazy and it was really awkward at times. I'd have to tell the same person like 100 times sorry, the text wasn't for you. I realized that it would send to the wrong person if I replied from drop-down notification bar. If I went to the SMS client and replied there, it would work great. I had to switch to Handcent because it was just too risky and annoying.
[General Topics] flyboyovyick:
why would engadget be anti android?

they review and report on a lot of android phones and stuff
[General Topics] MaybachMan:
Yeah but they're always biased towards Apple.

For example, they took points off the DHD in their review because the battery cover on theirs didn't line up perfectly and because the camera lens was unprotected (even though the way its designed means it won't get damaged), whereas they gave an almost perfect score to the iPhone 4, which doesn't get a signal when you hold it and also has an unprotected camera lens.

They also talk a lot about "the Android lag" as if all Android phones are horribly laggy, etc.
[General Topics] mrsbelpit:
So it seems to be when you are replying to an SMS that is sent from an email according to androidguys. It has never happened to me.
[General Topics] MaybachMan:
Yep, we now have more details about how it's triggered and Android Guys admitted they were wrong: http://www.androidguys.com/2011/01/03/android-sms-bug-real/
[General Topics] MaybachMan:
There's a fix coming soon :)
[General Topics] crazygameofpoker:
This has happened to me twice in the last twelve hours. I'm on Gingerbread with a Samsung Captivate. One of the times was extremely embarrassing. It looks like I'm going to have to switch to an SMS app because I really can't risk this happening again. I don't foresee it being fixed (especially for the Captivate) any time soon.
[General Topics] mbc663:
Tell us the embarrassing part!!!!
[General Topics] crazygameofpoker:
Text to girl went to older brother. It wasn't too bad but let me just say I wasn't trying to compliment my brother's looks.
[General Topics] mbc663:
Rofl. Awesome. Could have been a lot worse
[General Topics] mistermentality:
Not had this issue but read last year it was thought to happen on messages you typed while another came in. Here's an article saying how to reproduce it or avoid it...

http://www.androidcentral.com/more-about-android-sms-bug

Dave
[General Topics] morbidmrmartin:
I've never experienced the problem before, and I've been using android since 2008. At least Google moved it to critical, so hopefully this will get squashed.
[General Topics] zothes:
have never had this happen to me lol
[General Topics] Archer:
The article, and this thread, are over a year old. This may have been an isolated issue for some at the time, but I'd suggest that anyone having problems similar now won't actually be related to this.
[General Topics] Darkshade18:
I have never experienced this,

What? :P
[General Topics] AllGamer:
been using android for 3 years and never had that happen to me yet, and hope it stays that way :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] saefarabi:
Does anyone have a 1GB data.img for SuperRAM Froyo? The one included is 256 megabytes which isn't enough. I tried copying the 1GB data.img from SuperRam Sense but it didn't work. At the beginning of setup, you couldn't touch the android to begin at startup. I also tried resizing it with toporesize but that didn't work. So can someone please post a 1GB data.img for SuperRAM Froyo build? Thanks in Advance!
[myTouch 4G General] gabrialxue:
So before I get a bunch of angry people posting let me clarify a few things

First off I have a plum mytouch 4g with a sharp screen (that ones with bad viewing angles and contrast) that I got off of craigslist. The only thing I have other then the phone itself is a black gel case and a generic charger. The phone has some very minor but not a big deal scratches on the back and the top.

I got an offer on craigslist to trade it in for a mint but used G2 with all accessories and box.

So I need help deciding "Should I do it? I'm aware that the mytouch beats the G2 in every department except physical qwerty but before I make the trade on Tuesday I need help.

Are there any defects in the G2 I should be worried about/look for?

Is the G2 screen as good as a bad mytouch screen?

or anything else. Please help
[myTouch 4G General] evo madness:
I say go for it

sent from evo madness
[myTouch 4G General] gabrialxue:
Thank you for the quick reply but do you think you could elaborate? lol
[myTouch 4G General] VibrantOwnr:
watch out for a loose hinge

while the keyboard is hidden hold the phone upside down using the keyboard half of the phone

the screen will hang down
[myTouch 4G General] evo madness:
yes sir...the g2 is a way better phone then the my touch and the phone is in decent condition I would be glad to trade the my touch to me is like a t-mobile buy it quick cause we need the sales lol bottom line tho if u want a better phone g2 got way better features then the my touch and u not gonna find to many people who would trade a g2 for a my touch thats a big down grade to me....happy new years!!!!!!!!!

sent from evo madness
[myTouch 4G General] gabrialxue:
Hmm, theres the thing, other then the screen issue, lack of qwerty and the purple color ( I really don't mind purple but I aint crazy about it either) the mytouch trumps the G2 in almost every way. (Although I do love the build quality on the G2). Anybody else have an opinion?
[myTouch 4G General] cthulion:
I had both the mt4g and the g2.

The G2 is a great phone. Its just as fast as the mt4g, don't believe the numbers.

The screen is a lot better, mt4g looks fuzzy and pixelated in comparison. -though my mt4g had washed out screen.

The keyboard is very useful, power button is better positioned so you don't accidentally hit it in landscape mode.

Music sounds better through headphones.

Pretty close to being stock android.

*feels and looks 100x better than the mt4g.

No noisy cheap plastic navigation buttons.

Bad things are:

No ffc. Kinda bulky.

Worse reception than mt4g.

Less ram memory.

No trackpad wake.

I'm Perth sure that if you're not a careful user you'll break that keyboard hinge at some point.

People been already reporting discoloration...few months after release.

Hope I helped.
[myTouch 4G General] shlongwoodian:
@the g2 is a way better phone then the my touch

Not trying to be combative, evo madness, but can you provide any technical details? We all have our preferences, so if you like the G2 more than the myTouch 4G, no one could fault you for your personal preference.

I love the MT4G, so I sort of have to defend it. ;) I mean, the first thing we should address as far as "which phone is better," would be the difference between the MSM8255 & MSM7230 CPU. They're essentially the same CPU (please correct me if I'm wrong), but the MT4G uses the MSM8255 and the G2 uses the MSM7230. MSM8255 is clocked @ 1 GHz out of the box and MSM7230 is under-clocked to 800 MHz out of the box. Now "better" is relative here. Of course, 1 GHz is faster than 800 MHz, but someone might argue that one gets more battery life @ 800 MHz. Good thing SetCPU keeps me @ 1.4 GHz when the screen is on and 786 MHz when the screen is off. So MT4G @ 1 GHz and G2 @ 800 MHz.

The G2 has 512 MB RAM whereas the MT4G has 768 MB RAM. 768 is more than 512 and that = good when it comes to a snappy phone/the user experience.

Again, totally

not

trying to be combative here, but I'm trying to help the OP who wants to know if he should trade or not. @OP, the G2 is a great device and I really like pretty much any device that HTC manufactures. Coming from a G1, I was a big fan of having a physical keyboard. I never thought I'd like a soft-keyboard, until I started using Swype. Soft-keyboards are only getting better too (the GB one looks might enticing).

The G2 is running vanilla Android out of the box, whereas the MT4G is running Sense UI. Some hate Sense, some love it. I personally love it. So to me, the MT4G is "better," out of the box in that department. Someone else might disagree, since they prefer vanilla. Good thing we can flash ROMs!

The big thing for me gabrialxue, is what VibrantOwnr pointed out. There are videos all over the Web that explain the "hinge issue." If you HAVE TO HAVE a physical keyboard, go for it. It just depends on your personal preferences. Your situation @Craig's List doesn't help much though, but that has nothing to do with the phone itself.

I should probably avoid threads like this, but I wanted to clarify some technical details as far as "G2 is better than the MT4G" and I wanted to help gabrialxue stay with the MT4G, 'cause I love it and everyone should too! ;)
[myTouch 4G General] bobsbbq:
Just read the thread buried in here somewhere of all the people with G2's including myself who switched to the MT4G.

The my touch 4G is superior in every way over the G2 except the physical keyboard which is not as big as it used to be now that we have swipe.

The MT4G has a faster processor, more RAM, Font Facing Camera (FFC) etc.

Even the T-Mobile Customer service tell people wanting to switch back to the G2 that it is a downgrade.

Many people including myself were skeptical at first about the My Sense UI, but now that we have root you can flash other ROM's or use third party launchers to change the look to a more stock android look.

My biggest problem with the G2 was the poor design of the Hinges for the keyboard. It is a terrible design flaw. I tried 3 different G2's and I was very happy I switched.

Try to get you a good replacement with a good screen and you will be more happy with your MT4G.

Even though you bought it off craigslist there have been other people who have received warranty replacements that bought off craiglist and ebay. If you need more information about how to do it look through my thread about the displays good vs bad or PM me and I will help you in what to do.
[myTouch 4G General] gabrialxue:
So do you think I should suck it up and get past the whole washed out screen thing in exchange for the additional ram and FFC? (I dont use that a lot but I have used it a few times and it was cool) I mean coming from midrange androids it doesn't seem that bad to me until I compare it to other phones.
[myTouch 4G General] shlongwoodian:
It looks like bobsbbq and I were pecking away at the same perspective. :) I forgot to mention the FFC too!
[myTouch 4G General] bobsbbq:
Very good comment but the MT4G has 786 MB of RAM not 768.
[myTouch 4G General] shlongwoodian:
I'd message bobsbbq as he seems to have some info that will help. Remember, you have both T-Mobile and HTC (the manufacturer) to deal with when it comes to warranty/exchanges.

It's up to you. I'm only supposed to have two MT4G's and I went through a total of 5 or 6 (can't remember, I shipped so many back!) before my fiancee and I settled on the ones we have now. Whether it was the "bad" SH display or creaking - I mean REALLY creaking - edges, I felt it was worth it to deal with TMO and go through all of the "hassle." For someone else, they might've cried and gone on to the iPhone. I'm a man though. :p

It's difficult for us to say, "yes, gabrialxue, do this - you

will

like it." You might not like pizza, but we can sit here all day and tell you you should eat it and you should like it. If I were you, I would ditch the G2 and stay here with us in MT4Gland. That's me, not you.

On paper and in personal preference, there is no doubt the MT4G is a superior device to the G2. IMHO, I really think the MT4G is the best Android device on the market right now, period. I'll never poopoo on another HTC or Android device though, they're all winners. The Evo is great, the Incredible is great, etc.
[myTouch 4G General] shlongwoodian:
Sorry, I know that too - I'm typing away here in fervor, defending the MT4G. LOL
[myTouch 4G General] gabrialxue:
My biggest concern is resell/trade value? Which one do you suppose will fetch me more in the long run? A G2 in good condition or a purple mytouch 4g in condition and no original accessories/box
[myTouch 4G General] shlongwoodian:
Now we're really not talking about phones anymore, IMHO. Yeah, I guess resale value is somewhat important, but we're not talking about a Honda Accord here. I don't sell my previous phones, so for me, that's a moot point.

I honestly think the MT4G would fetch you more $$$ in the long-run, but you did say it has some scratches, none of the original packaging, etc. Some buyers seem to like the original packaging, as it "says something" about the owner.

Again, this is really difficult, gabrialxue. We've moved away from performance, development and user experience and are onto resale value. I have never once considered that when buying a phone, instrument, electronic device, etc. I would only consider resale value on a home, car, boat, etc. That's just me though. ;)
[myTouch 4G General] btbuck1:
Keep the mytouch, do a warranty replacement, root it and throw cyanogenmod on it. that way you get the the thinner phone, better hardware, bigger screen.

the G2 is nice, but if you don't care about the keyboard (which i didn't) then you end up with a phone that's Thicky Ricardo for no reason.