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[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] dorianmuthig:
1. It could be you have a bad adapter, that is true. Try another adapter to check. Or see if your computer recognizes and charges the phone, if you plug it in via your adapter cable combination (only use the data cable parts).

2. The SD card reader must have an SD card in it, or it obviously will not work.

3. If the reader device works in your computer, it is not defective. Check if it works if plugged into the adapter cable (you would need a mini-USB to USB-A female-female adapter for this in your case, if you don't have one, don't bother and see [1])
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Magpir:
none of the devices are recognised usng the adapters on the PC, but they do draw power and the phone charges

but the phone charges and if i replace the sdcard reader with a thumbdrive, the thumddrive is lighted. this shows the Y cable is delivering power using the adaptors

so i am not sure why the sdcard reader is not light up

i understand the phone is supposed to read from the sdcard reader, so either the phone is not reading or the sdcard reader is a prbolem or the cable itself is problem
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] herlek:
Thanks for the tutorial. It works. Had some problems to get in usb host mode though. Phone restarted after displaying usb host screen - had to push again volume and camera button when device restarted. Did anyone else had simular problems to get in usb host mode? After this device started loading the nbh file. First tried my multicard reader but that didn't work.

Changed my phone from o2-uk to htc Europe.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] silvox:
Gold card may not be a problem for me, but the making of y-cable bother me a lot.

Can i use usb Hub replace y-cable
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] X5 E70:
Thanks for the tutorial guys :)

Goldcard created but when entering in USB Host mode om the display i see ,,Loading,, and the telephone is restarting.

Try between restartings with ,,camera,,+,,volume down,, buttons but restarting again

Any ideas?
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Adam86:
try another MicroSD card, 1GB or smaller. Thats what happened to me when I was trying a 2GB one.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] X5 E70:
Thanks Adam86 but the card is 1Gb. I spend 2 days to find 1Gb
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] dorianmuthig:
Well, I can use the goldcard generator now, but if I copy the goldcard.img file to the FAT32 formatted SD card, the device says "Not allow" and switches back to "Serial". If I write the image file to the beginning of the SD card storage space it just constantly reboots. What am I doing wrong here?

I renamed the rom file to SCHUIMG.nbh. I have two files on the SD card SCHUIMG.nbh and goldcard.img

It also appears a little strange to me as to why I need the CID of the card in the USB device since USB devices register as mass storage device with removable media and do not pass down the operating parameters of the SD card like PCI readers do. Are you sure I don't need the CID of the SD card in the device?

Edit: Never mind, I formatted using the wrong sector size. Had to use 4096 bytes and then I wouldn't overwrite the file allocation table with installing the goldcard image to the start of the storage space. Little things...
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] acsaba:
Hello

I can not read the CID a telefonomból.

And connects the PC Tool infitom a Gold Card but does not do anything.

* daemon not running. starting it now *

* daemon started successfully *

------------------------

Could not locate output in CID
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] dorianmuthig:
You can also use a computer with an SDA standard compliant secure digital adapter attached to the PCI bus (most integrated laptop SD card readers) and this tool to read SD card property data: http://cid-862dee3ec267cb5c.office.live.com/self.aspx/Public/ReadCID.zip (I don't think you want to compile that from source code, right?)
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] ThePhoenixUK:
Right, finally got mine working, turn's out the reason I was going round in circles was the piece of crap Micro SD Card I was using (a 1GB Unbranded thing), I switched to a 2GB Kingston and it's working like a charm now. So by the way you CAN use a memory card bigger than 1GB e.g a 2GB Card, BUT you CANNOT use a SDHC 4GB Card or anything else larger.

Flashing now, just waiting for it to finish.

Happy New Year Guys!

EDIT:

Done, I am now running the Telstra ROM with the updated Bootloader/SPL Pack as well on a 02 UK HD7

OS Stats Now Read:

OS Version: 7.0.7004.0

Firmware: 2250.09.15002.841

Hardware: 0002

Radio Software: 5.52.09.16_22.33a.50.10U

Radio Hardware: A.102.0.D4

Bootloader: 1.60.2250.0(114364)

Chip: 2.2.5.0

Everything is working perfect except now I have a few neat little applications that are only in the Telstra ROM at the moment, see Ansar's Unbranding Thread for details.

Bye :D
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] dorianmuthig:
Has anone figured out yet how you can use the internal SD card slot for flashing? (warranty voiding disassembly required) I know it's possible with the android and WM6.x devices from HTC, but if I put the SD card with the firmware into the slot and boot the device it either boots normally or only boots to the tri-color screen or USB host adapter mode. What button do you need to press to start the firmware update?

I just fried my two SD card readers that worked and I won't be getting one before next week and I bricked the device because it couldn't flash the OS ROM part of the RUU_Schubert_HTC_Europe_1.60.401.01_Radio_5.52.09.16_22.33a.50.10_Signed_SCHUBERT_RELEASE and since the RUU_Schubert_HTC_Europe_1.16.401.01_Radio_5.51.09.06a_22.30.50.09_Signed_SCHUBERT_RELEASE could be flashed successfully, I need to go back to that. I can't flash via USB because it always says "invalid vender ID".
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] megasounds:
YESS this is working

I succesfully loaded the HTC europe rom to by O2-De WM7 device

YESSS...many thanks !!!!

you did a great job !!!

where can i donate ???

megasound
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] X5 E70:
Hm, guys, how to resolve the problem with reboot after reboot?
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] dorianmuthig:
You have to use a properly formatted SD card. Try this program: http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter/
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] X5 E70:
Thanks dorianmuthig :)

But with wich settings? Quick format? Erase ON or OFF?

I try with Quick format, the result:

just with renamed .nbh file nothings happend

renamed .nbh file + gold card image the result is NO IMAGE FILE

Heeelp ...
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] ceesheim:
good to know that it worked :)

here you can donate :)

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...ode=EUR&lc=US&bn=PP-DonationsBF&charset=UTF-8

its from the maker of the goldcards .
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] dorianmuthig:
Use normal format, make sure the SD card is 1GB or smaller but at least 256MB. After format with the SD card tool completes, format to FAT32 with 4096byte sectors in Windows. Use a disk editor (HxD is great) to write the goldcard image to the start of the SD card storage space, remove and reinsert the SD card, copy the NBH image you want to use on the card and rename it to SCHUIMG.nbh

Now boot the phone into USB host mode and use an USB SD card reader with a USB OTG cable and a USB power adapter to load the SD card.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] X5 E70:
God bless you dorianmuthig :) WORKING :)
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] sutt359:
Thank you all for this.

Ive just debranded my o2uk to the euro rom, by using a old htc touch pro and a 2gb SanDisk

Was a doddle once i read everything correctly lol.

By the way the £ symbol is there just hold the $ and slide along

Thank you again
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] cityhunterx:
Can somebody please provide some assistance, been trying and trying without success.

Ive followed the instructions and tried 3 different sd card; 2 x 1GB and 1 x 2GB all without success, the phone just displays Enter USB Host Mode..

The cards have been formatted witht the panasonic sw and then formatted to fat 32.

Thanks
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] dorianmuthig:
You need to use a USB2.0 mass storage compatible secure digital card reader (less than two bucks) and a cable with an external 5V power source (~5 bucks). A standard USB 2.0 OTG cable will not work since the phone cannot power the storage device (it's kinda weird).

If you want to flash a ROM that wasn't meant for your device, you will also need to format it properly with the SD card format tool with FAT32 and 4096 byte sector size and then write the goldcard image to the beginning of the card with a disk editor or a tool like dd.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Ttblondey:
can I use android phone to make the goldcard instead of wm 6 ?
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] dorianmuthig:
Are you sure you are using the right male A plug on the Y-cable? There is one that only carries power (pin 1 and 4) and one that carries power + data (pin 2 and 3). If you are using the right plug, and the device is still not being recognized, then your Y-cable is bad.

Yes, it is also possible to use an android app for reading the CID of your SD card somewhere, if you can't find one, make one. Everything you need can be found here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3348643/how-to-read-the-sd-card-id-number
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Magpir:
its a female to female USB coupler like the pic i posted

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i think Y cable may not be able to transmit data?

becaus eit was originaly meant for powering devices?
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] dorianmuthig:
I was walking about the Y-cable. That is the cable only. Does that cable work properly on a PC with a device directly attached to it? (You can use any device with a mini-USB device to test it). If the cable works, but your phone via the mini-USB to micro-USB doesn't, it's your mini-USB to micro-USB adapter, if it doesn't, it's the Y-cable. If the Y-cable, the mini-USB to micro-USB adapter and the card reader work, then it's your female to female USB adapter plug.

It's a simple process of elimination, test with cables, adapters and devices you know are working and add only one of the components you want to test at a time until you can confirm they work.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Magpir:
unfortunately using the adaptors with the Y cable and connecting to PC does not make the devices (phone, thumbdrive or sdcard reader) show up in explorer or zune..but does this matter? i dont know

But the thumbdrive and phone does light up and phone charges

my only hope is the thumbdrive now, its 16GB but i fotmatted it to only show 1GB

how do i use this thumbdrive??
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] crazysax1:
I'm waiting for more than 20 minutes .. is normal?

The microSD and 2GB .. now I'm coming with the carrier that 1gb ..
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] dorianmuthig:
Yes, it matters. Your devices need to have a data connection to communicate with each other. Find out which of the cables or adapters is faulty as I previously described and replace it.

Thumb drives only work if they are partitioned with one single primary partition. You can format them with either FAT16 or FAT32 at 4KB cluster size. This limits their acceptable size to 4GB. The 1GB limit only applies to SD and MMC cards and this has something to do with how the SPL accesses them to verify the goldcard code. The way this works (and that's actually an implementation conformity bug) is that the phone verifies the first sector and the file system in a single routine, where if it fails in a certain way it can't read the card, due to lack of allocatable registers. But why be technical about it, making it work isn't particularly hard.

Simply put: No, it isn't. Can you provide me with your SD card's CID, create a raw device image of the data on your SD card (you can use dd on Linux or any other imaging tool like it), compress it with 7-zip on the LZMA (Ultra) setting and upload it somewhere?
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] alnova1:
I have been trying to make my own Y cable but cannot get it to work. I see where others have but I cant make it happen. Card reader doesn't light up or the phone isn't recognized if i use a PC. I have followed all the instructions I have seen about creating one...:mad:
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] crazysax1:
This could be the problem here ..

I almost accidentally took out the phone's microSD is formatted in fat32 .. I is a problem?
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] dorianmuthig:
Look at this page: http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml

You need a cable that connects pin 1 through 4 of a USB A female plug with pin 1 through 4 (pin number must match) of a micro USB male plug and pin 1 and 4 of the same plugs with an additional USB A male plug. If you are using USB cables you are cutting up, pins are, from 1 to 4, red, white, green and black, respectively. Just cut up a cheap USB A male to micro USB male cable and a USB A extension cord, solder the female plug end of the extension cord together with the micro USB end where the colors match and then solder the white and green wires of one of the USB A male ends where the colors match, insulate the cable properly and you just made yourself a powered USB 2.0 microUSB-OTG cable.

Put the phone's internal microSD back where you found it. You may have read you can use the internal card slot for "goldcard flashing" with Android phones, but with Windows Phones this will not work. The internal card is also SD/SDA password protected, it will not work in any USB reader unless you format it using a Nokia Symbian (S60 or newer) based phone.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] alnova1:
I have done all of this but I haven't soldered the wires because I don't have a soldering gun...I have just been twisting them together and using tape. Is this my problem? Is solder a must?
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] 5ft24:
Same exact setup I use... The SD card reader won't blink until the phone actually tries to load data from it... Is the phone going to USB loader mode and not the SPL mode?

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That could be an issue... The data is VERY low current and even the slightest noise on the connection can keep it from talking.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] alnova1:
Guess I will be soldering. I tried the same method as you also..same setup and nothing.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] dorianmuthig:
It isn't, but soldering helps with making sure your wires have contact, especially if they have some kind of transparent insulation coating paint on them (in addition to the regular plastic coating) which most super thin cables and bundles have (most commonly earphones, network cables and SATA/SAS cables). If you solder those types of wires the coating paint will either burn or melt away, exposing the actual copper or aluminum wires.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] alnova1:
Thanks. I know I have them hooked up right. I'm dumb but follow instructions pretty well. Let me make sure of something, If the cable is hooked up correct as soon as I hook up my card reader it should light up correct? It lights up when plugged into my computer but none on my lame attempts to hook it up to my wiring..:rolleyes: This is my first windows phone. Just bought it for something to fool around with...didn't realize I would need tools to customize my rom!
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] dorianmuthig:
If your card reader lights up as soon as it is powered, then yes, that is what should happen. If your card reader lights up as soon as the USB host device recognizes it, it will take one or two seconds before it lights up and another two or three before the phone starts reading the data from the device and the light starts blinking. After that the phone wil show Loading... on the screen, take a few seconds to think and then show a list of ROM parts and text based checkboxes infront of them. It will then read each of those parts individually into memory, flash them and check the appropriate box. The phone may reboot, if the SPL has been replaced (LOADER or BOOT) before continuing with the rest and reboot again, 10-15 seconds after completing the last part (probably a TOUCH ROM item).
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] alnova1:
It does but I'm starting to wonder about it. Its an older reader...its a secure digital CR-V7-UD. I have a newer one that I will be getting back tomorrow but its a multi-card reader and you said they don't work most of the time. Having said that, when I put the micro sd in the slot on the multi-reader the computer doesn't recognize it but when I put it in the adapter and use the same reader it does.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] dorianmuthig:
How old is that reader? If it was manufactured before 2002 it will likely not work. The only types of multi-card readers that work are those where the SD/SDHC/MMC slot is the first mass storage device exposed to the system. To help you understand: A multi-card reader plugged into a Windows PC will add multiple drives under Computer. Let's say your card reader has 4 slots SD/MMC, Compact Flash, Sony Memory Stick and xD Picture card, then you will get 4 drives in Computer, let's say G:, H:, I: and J:. In this case the G: drive has to be the SD card slot, if you want that reader to work.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] alnova1:
Oh yea..it shows up in windows as a E drive. I have a "Hackintosh" So I run MacOSX Lion and it shows up there and I have parallels installed and it shows up there as a drive on my windows virtual disk and I can also dual-boot into windows or mac and it shows up there so maybe I'm good...
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Magpir:
the cables arent faulty, they cant be, because its the first time i am using them.

maybe the cables arent the right one??

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I think this is the problem i have the card reader not lighting up.

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I understand the OS , SPL ect is stored in the phone rom. So sdcard is just to hold the OS

that is how when u hard reset , u get the OS.

so how is that possible that u can format the card in symbian and downgrade bootloader ect?

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The sdcard reader i have is this. the reader itself registers as mass storage device under windows explorer
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Magpir:
i tried with another old 512 mB thumbdrive.

the thumbdrive keeps blinking, phone stays on USB mode screen

nothing happening
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] dorianmuthig:
It doesn't matter as which letter it shows up, what matters is, if you have never connected the device to your computer before and there are no out of order drives (say a C: and an F: drive instead of a C: and a D: drive) in the system already, that the SD slot is the first of the multiple drives added.

Why not? Maybe you bought a defective cable. It happens. This is why warranties exist.

The SPL, OS and how the radio devices and touchscreen work, etc. is controlled by program code stored in a 512MB chip on the base board, the SD card is used to "expand" the storage area within the booted OS to ~8 or ~16GB, depending on which edition of phone you have (or ~30GB if you replaced it)

Those types of readers are likely to work fine, even though they tend to break after using them for not very long (I toasted like 5 already).

Maybe your thumb drive is incompatible or doesn't get enough power.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Ttblondey:
I have a windows moblie 6.1 and how do i make a goldcard for my hd7.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Magpir:
The USB thumbdrive keeps blinking , but when connected to laptop directly shoes a solid light .

What's happening

edit: like u mentioned, there is a C, F,H and other drives partions ect... is this a problem?
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Ttblondey:
My Y setup cable

Sorry Magpir I try to pm you this pic but there's no attachment.

IF you all notice my cable is alot thicker .I manage to power up both device to my pc

'BUT' only winmobile 6.1 can be connected to windows mobile device centre and my hd7 can't connect to zune. I should try and buy an adaptor female usb to micro usb which cost 5 bucks in SLS.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Ttblondey:
I have another Y cable which is much thinner than this which I try to connect both device but one of them doesn't connect/powerup.I believe it's the cable.i'll post it later.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Magpir:
I have a mini to micro USB connector, my hd7 can power up .

but not shown in Zune .

But again I don't know if this matters because if yu use a wall charger to do it, the PC don't come into play .
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Ttblondey:
more picture of two different size cables.

2nd from left is the one that i use to connect my kaiser and hd7 to my pc
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Ttblondey:
can someone explain to us whether do we need both wpdm and zune to be connected to do the transferring?since we have windows mobile.

Both my device are connected to my pc and both of them powerup.Only my Kaiser get connected to wpdm.:mad::confused:

Edit : it's wmdc not wpdm
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Magpir:
it still bugs me why we need zune for?

the phone only reads from the other device right, unless the zune and windows explorer confirmation means data passing thru.

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according to my y cable , its orignally used to power devices by connecting 2 male USB plugs to the computer and a mini usb to a external HDD/cdrom because this devices cannot run by power from a single USB port of the PC ( 500Ma) , they need 2 USB ports (1000Ma)

So by this theory the cable should be able to pass data to and fro from the computer unless one of them is only power only .

if this is the case, then we need to DIY our own cables

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unless we reverse the arrangement in this way

THe mini usb goes into the computer

the other 2 USB goes to HD7 and other device.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] dorianmuthig:
Look here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=825397

Not really, it just means you can't use your computer to tell which drive is the first on your card reader. Try it with your phone and see if it works, if it does, good, if it doesn't you need to get a different one.

I'm guessing your Windows Mobile 6.1 phone uses mini-USB and is thus not connected via the mini-to-micro-USB adapter? This means you need to get a mini-to-micro-USB adapter that carries data. I'm assuming you took yours out of a universal charging kit or something?

Yes, it matters, if the device has power but no data connectiong it cannot communicate with other devices connected to it, which is needed to communicate with either a PC or your SD/MMC card reader.

The size of the cable is not relevant. What matters is that you have one plug with power only and two plugs with all pins connected to the plugs

You are connecting your devices the wrong way. You need to conect them in such a way that only the phone and your card reader device (in your case your Windows Mobile 6.x device) communicate.

Yes, if you connect your cable correctly, it should work. You don't need Zune, you need to connect your devices correctly however, so that they communicate with each other, instead of one communicating with your computer and one being powered to charge.