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[Epic 4G General] chnzshyguy:
I'm more curious to know if there are debug options that I can turn on so I can see some diagnostics in adb logcat.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] mmas0n:
The main gripe I hear about the Nexus S is the lack of an external SD card slot and how that effects the ability to use your phone as a music player.

Subsonic is the solution.

For those not familiar, Subsonic allows you to stream your entire music collection not only to any Flash-enabled web browser anywhere in the world, but to Android, iOS and Windows Phone 7 devices. The Android app automatically caches tracks you play so that they can be played back in offline mode if needed and also cuts down on bandwidth wasted on frequently played tracks. The cache size is adjustable.

An upcoming release of Subsonic will also allow video streaming.

As an added bonus, you can keep your music library in FLAC and it will be transcoded on the fly to MP3 as you stream.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] ztm.000:
The whole point of a microSD is to not have cloud-based services...
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] mmas0n:
Even if the NS did have a MicroSD slot, the largest available is 32GB. My music library is 300GB+ of mostly FLAC goodness. Deciding which albums I should have on hand at any given time and then transcoding them to something reasonable for a mobile device or having a complete duplicate library in lower bitrate MP3s and still swapping out albums manually is a PITA. This is not only a solution, but a solution with countless perks.

If 32GB is enough for you or you don't mind wasting your time, I suppose you can ***** about the lack of expandable storage and swim upstream against the proliferation of streaming services all you want.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] unremarked:
While the tone was a bit overly hostile, I agree with you to an extent. Cloud-based services definitely seem to be the direction technology is moving in. Whether or not that's a good thing will be up to the individual.

Personally, 16gbs is perfectly sufficient for my needs as I don't see the need to carry my entire .mp3/flac/whatevs collection around with me, I won't argue against the convenience of being able to access it whenever, wherever should I decide I'm in the mood for something not currently loaded on my device. So I'm interested in seeing the development of this app. So, to be clear, this would just be a streaming service akin to Pandora/Slacker(but obviously it's my collection, not something generated by them/someone else) or would I be able to drag/drop/load my device with the songs of choice and disconnect?
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] ztm.000:
I'm not bashing or hatin' or anything. I just think that you don't need 200GBs+ of music at you all the time. 32GB isn't enough for me, I have a music collection of over 550GBs, but no way in hell do I need al that ever at once. I'd rather have a microSD to store files and apps and backups and all that. I pick and choose my favorite albums, with about 6GBs to spare, so it does not matter to me, although I do believe that a hardware hack could come along. I'm just sayin'...
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] ztm.000:
And please don't get me wrong, I have nothing against cloud-based services.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] mmas0n:
I was probably a little too hostile and for that, I apologize.

One of the many things I like about Subsonic is that it is a streaming solution that is not actually "in the cloud" but hosted from your own PC and your own library. I got burned pretty bad when Apple bought out LaLa.com and killed them, leaving a bad taste in my mouth regarding cloud-based music services. All of my music licensing was gone and I received an iTunes gift card (that I refuse to use) for my troubles.

I posted this because I really like Subsonic, not just as a solution to a lack of expandable storage on the NS but as a media library and player in general. I'm hoping that some other people who haven't discovered it yet can do so.

Cheers.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] nxt:
I prefer AudioGalaxy.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Beatle405:
My gripe with the no SD card as far as music is conserned is that I fly A LoT. Average twice a week. So I don't always have access to cloud based music. I do like the I would still have to pick and choose which songs before hand to have enough for say, an 8 hour flight. So, I've just had to pick and choose what I carry, and will rotate out occasionally.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] AllGamer:
me either, i use DropBox (free)

but even with a 3G connection, it is still slowwwwwwwwww compared to a local microSD
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] crazifyngers:
I like subsonic because it doesn't just stream them it caches the songs. so you queue the songs it downloads them and then it is on your device. they show up in the native music app as well. I like it because i can choose music in the terminal as opposed to while i'm packing. I have used subsonic for about 9 months and absolutely love it. it has great settings like transcoding bitrate based on your connection wifi and mobile. I also dig the web interface when i'm at work. i'm excited about the video streaming as well. the server is ~$25 but I believe only one person works on it. i'm a sucker for small programs and the license can be used on multiple machines. The developer is very helpful as well.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] LordLugard:
So i guess in the concrete jungle of a subway system where i am i can be enjoying my "300gb" goodness of FLAC music when there is no network service???

Come on, streaming services are great for discovering varieties of new or different stuff but for stuff i already own i'd rather have them on my person, even if i can only carry around 32GB of them at a time, which in itself is staggering.

If you must have hundreds of geebees of music on you at a time, get a Cowon or Archos with hundreds of geebess built in.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] fosdos4790:
How in God's name does someone amass a collection of over 550 gbs of music.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Bronk93:
I just got subsonic setup tonight and I have to admit its a sick program. The majority of my mp3's are at 320kbs and I had no issues at all streaming them over 3g. Ill keep on toying with it before I donate but so far so good.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] ScooterG:
Years of collecting live music concerts in .shn/.flac

Try over 4 terabytes :eek:

Oh...and +1 to AudioGalaxy
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] AllGamer:
i did play with it as well, it's very nice for HOME use

but i found when i try to stream music DRIVING, it occasionally (a lot) breaks up or get choppy audio

and then from Nexus S streams over Bluetooth to the car receiver

so anyone riding in the Subway system, sub sonic is totally out of the question.

unless you are lucky to be in one of those countries where the transit system have cellphone relays inside the subway tunnels
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Bronk93:
That's odd because SS caches the songs to phone storage to cut down on buffering but if your in a spotty reception area you will probably have that issue with streaming in general.

One bug I've ran into and I think this is an issue with the web browser is when I try to log on using the web browser and not the android app I get an error "browser has too many redirects" or something like that.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] mmas0n:
If you are offline, you use Subsonic in offline mode and play whatever you have cached. It's a rolling cache with adjustable size. I have mine set to 10GB, so even if I'm in an area with slow/no service, I can listen to whatever the last 10GB of streamed music is.

So, worst case scenario: you're limited to offline mode and can only listen to what you've been listening to lately. Essentially the same as if you were not using Subsonic and you're stuck on the Subway.

... and best case scenario is you can play whatever you want whenever you want it.

I'm really trying, but I don't see the downside here.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] mcp2009:
Could not figure out subsonic at all so I gave up. I have 16gbs of music and I'm getting a nexus s in about a week. I plan on using mspot. 4 bucks for 40 gbs isn't bad. Ill eventually buy a zune hd or ipod touch 32gb. Or just use nexus or g2 as mp3.

Sent from my HTC Vision
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Bronk93:
If you had problems with subsonic check out this page....http://monroeworld.com/android/subsonic/

Its the page I used to get subsonic working.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] mcp2009:
thnx got it working but basically it's saying that I have to have music in specific folders. I just have all my music in my "My Music" folder and I like it that way. Also I like mspot's interface better and the idea of cloud storage.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] DKYang:
Eh, I had problems getting it to work before and Audiogalaxy doesn't support folders or flac. I guess I could try again by going to that site that was posted.

I prefer to stream music since I'm actually using the data. Getting what I paid for. :)

Just thought I put this out there. Gmote is another great free alternative. Although flac is not supported, it does the job. But the cached songs feature on Subsonic is pretty cool.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] tekkitan:
I think I'd rather set up my own SHOUTCast and use Winamp to listen to it.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] LordLugard:
...or I could just have all my music on my person and not doubly kill my battery life by both streaming using 3g data and playing music at the same time.

Caching 10gb of previously listened music....this is lame. Why don't I have all that music already on my phone and not have to waste data and battery life caching it in the first place?

I can listen to whatever I want that I have on my memory card (if I happen to be in the subway), not just what I hopefully already listened to and cached.

Please try some more. I'm not getting it.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] mmas0n:
Clearly it's not for you. There are a total of 11 people streaming from my massive media collection on a daily basis including myself who will continue to enjoy the hell out of it.
[Captivate Accessories] evoic:
Search: "Sprint Epic 4G AT&T Samsung Captivate Extended Battery"

It says that the seller is shipping from Texas and the batteries are from China (of course) and that they will soon have additional case models for the pregnant battery.

Interesting.

Someone be a guinea pig ! !
[Captivate Accessories] Spidious:
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_tr...te+Extended+Battery&_sacat=See-All-Categories

Includes the battery and door !
[Captivate Accessories] nappent:
I don't see how that would work on a captivate...
[Captivate Accessories] Spidious:
The actual one for the Captivate doesn't go on sale till the 15th of January. The guy selling them has one on his testing it out right now. It doesn't look like the pictured ones.
[Captivate Accessories] derek4484:
You have to be careful with these low cost chinese batteries. I got burned when I bought an extended life battery for my acer laptop. Acer wanted $150 for an 8 cell battery but found one on ebay for $65. So I jumped all over it. It charged fine and worked great...one time. The first time I used it I got like 4.5-5 hours on one charge which was correct as I got about 2 hours on the 4 cell stock battery. But the battery only lasted for about 4 or 5 charge cycles and by 10-15 charge cycles it wont even last 1 hour. Buyer beware, you get what you pay for.
[Captivate Accessories] evoic:
:D:D:D:D
[Captivate Accessories] stormykrista:
It is listed as shipping now. Any volunteers?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] rbtady:
Hi, does anyone know if there is a theme to make the 3G icon into an H for nero v3?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] jdanisevich:
I actually considered doing that with my theme. It wouldn't be hard at all, I already have the H icons in my framework. All I'd have to do is change the names. There might be some other theme available that uses them already, but none that I know of. If you want PM me tomorrow and I'll see if I can whip it for us if you're interested.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] deeznutz1977:
+1 yes plz
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dr690n:
+1 definitely
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] PhilUSAF21:
Yes plz too +1
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] cjggilbert:
+1 more. That would be great
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] jdanisevich:
Alright, I figured out the best way to do this. My next SBG release will have the option to download the "H" version. I won't be releasing anymore v1 Bar versions, but I will make the v1 Bar into an update package for those who still want it. You'll be able to flash it over any future SBG releases. That's gonna save me a lot of time and effort, and hopefully make everyone, including the "H" crowd, happy. No promises, but they should all be ready by tomorrow. Oh, and speaking of tomorrow, happy New Year everyone! :D
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] PhilUSAF21:
Thanks alot :)

Sent from My Vibrant Nero v3 + Voodoo!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] jdanisevich:
SBG 2.2

It's done! Just figured I'd post a link here in case no one noticed yet. Hope you like it!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Vinsane:
I have the circle battery mod... if I flash this... will that disappear?

Also...does voodoo need to be disabled before install?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] jdanisevich:
You should ask questions about my theme in the actual thread. That being said, it will overwrite your circle battery mod with the battery mod included in my theme. It's not a circle, but it looks exactly like the GB battery, only it shows the battery percentage. There's a screenshot in my thread if you're curious. Oh, and like I said in the instructions in the OP, it isn't necessary to disable voodoo. Feel free to flash away!
[EVO 4G Android Development] zikronix:
Me and TrevE are the ones that discovered this whole thing.

We msg'd both amon_ra and koush and amon quickly threw together a fix. And I tried cw's new recovery on an old and new evo on the new evo it seemd to work but on the old evo it would only back up the boot.img so im all for getting this sorted out...and it is a real problem

here is the work me and treve did

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=843342

The issue is that the "modified one" from the thread reports version 1.8, the version you can "officially" download is 1.8 but i assure you they are VERY different.

The poster below states he uses 1.8 on his 2.02 evo but the question is what version...of 1.8. Yes it has been reported that some of the older evo's that managed to get the 2.xx hboots can use the "official" amon_ra and it works....and it might...however the newer evos some of which are 003 and 004 that have hboot 2.xx need to use the "modified" one

this is where the issue lies
[EVO 4G Android Development] mroneeyedboh:
Its old news that you cannot use anything but Amon_Ra 1.8 on hboot 2.02 and 2.10. DOnt use Clockwork. Sure clockwork fixed it but still needs more testing, from what Ive read. It might be deemed safe, but why not use what works, Amon_RA
[EVO 4G Android Development] lithid-cm:
NVM I answered my own issue.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gatorran:
Do you even read what he wrote???
[EVO 4G Android Development] davenukem:
the poster that said you can only use Amon_ra on hboots 2.2 and 2.10 is incorrect. You can only use a CERTAIN VERSION OF AMON_RA on hboot 2.2 and 2.10. Disregard his post.

I'm not being mean bud but this is incorrect and will only help people mess up their phones.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kthejoker20:
I think what he is trying to say is that there are 2 different versions of "amon ra 1.8" which are both different.

One version fixes the partitions on the newer hboot, and the other one does not.

So, what he is saying is rename the newer amon ra to 1.8.1 or something so that people know they are flashing the right one.

BTW... autoroot has it built it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lithid-cm:
amon_ra 1.8 works fine on 2.2 hboots. can't say the same about 2.10 because that isn't my version. I have 2.2 and not issues with 1.8

Ok that makes alot more sense.
[EVO 4G Android Development] davenukem:
See, more testing needs to be done. If what you say is true then perhaps it's only the 2.10 hboot with these new partitions? I think the Amon_ra developer needs to communicate with Koush and discover HOW koush figured out how to distinguish between which phone had which partitions. Realistically though, this is a horrible move by HTC, it's bad enough there are so many hardware revisions floating around.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lithid-cm:
In HTC's eyes its working for them... messing up the dev community from rooting... but that my friend is only short lived.
[EVO 4G Android Development] zikronix:
but what version of 1.8 see my post i updated above
[EVO 4G Android Development] mroneeyedboh:
Oh I was confused at the time I posted. I thought you meant something other than Amon RA 1.8. When I rooted my phone, I was told in the guide to use AmonRA 1.8 because the lesser version was no good. Because like you said the partitions are different in 2.02 and 2.10. Which in turn (again like you said ) can render the 4g obsolete and unresolvable and the inability to possibly flash roms.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Bizdady:
Its gonna suck when us older hardware versions need to get phones repaired. Damn u HTC lol

Sent from my Evo CM6
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
It is the partition setup, or to be more specific MTD, that matters. The hboot version was thought to be the culprit at first but now we know it is doesn't matter.

So the hboot does not matter when it comes to this. It is all your partition setup.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lithid-cm:
Then I must be using the new amon ra version since I rooted my phone using this method:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=829045
[EVO 4G Android Development] martonikaj:
So is there any downside to upgrading to the latest 3.0.0.2 ClockworkMod Recovery on an older HBOOT version? Will I have issues restoring from older nandroid backups?
[EVO 4G Android Development] zikronix:
yes because depending on all sorts of variables. in fact i couldnt get cw the new version to work with old hardware and it was acting goofy in new hardware.

the only reason we require the use of the "modified" recovery like haus said is because the partition structure changed. and really has nothing to do with the hboot.
[EVO 4G Android Development] martonikaj:
So i should stick with 2.5.1.2 for now? lol

I flashed 3.0.0.0 when it came out, and it led to all kinds of crazy issues. It worked just fine in the recovery menu etc. but i ended up having some bootloops and such.

Also, ROmManager is prompting that 3.0.0.2 of CWM is available. thoughts?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ZombieReagan:
How about providing links to the proper version of Amon_Ra's recovery in the OP? Granted, it'd be nice if he changed the version number, but having the right one somewhere obvious would be nice in the meantime.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lithid-cm:
Thought I would mention that I flashed clockwork from rom manager. Works fine on my 2.2. Just did a back and some flashing. All goof
[EVO 4G Android Development] Igotsanevo4g:
I been using the latest CWM (now 3.0.0.2) with zero problems on the ENG hboot (.76)

NO bootloops, i can back up and restore new and older nandroids from different versions of CWM no problem.

Maybe my phone is a god or something but... It works i know that. ;)

P.S. Whats up with the orange? I vote blue.
[EVO 4G Android Development] davenukem:
Hmm... so how do we figure out how our phone is partitoned? Or is clockwork just the way to go from now on because it seems he has a way of checking your partition built into the software.
[EVO 4G Android Development] davenukem:
I use hboot version because I have Ben told the phones that ship with the newer hboot versions have the new partitions. Just an easy way to speak about the phones with the problem at hand.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xHausx:
That was the thinking for awhile but that would make things way to simple for HTC. The new hboots are backward compatible so some of the new phones are shipping with the old partition structure and a newer hboot. Add to that the new camera hardware and you have mass confusion.

A petty reliable way to tell is by your /proc/mtd table. If 'cat /proc/mtd' shows an erase size of 20000 you have the old set up. If it shows 40000 you have the new one.

This is what my autoroot script uses to tell them apart and so far those are the only two variations it's found.
[EVO 4G Android Development] snandlal:
Yes zikron we know who figured it out. You need to be helpin those u bricked since you were providing bunk ass images at the start of your blah blah blah version of your hboot. Ya you may have helped alot of people but you also put a bunch of **** files out there that you didnt even know worked. Simp
[EVO 4G Android Development] zikronix:
I'd suggest you get your facts straight before you decide to fire an accusatory post off.

1) My root method has never bricked one phone. In my thread you have never seen a phone with a black screen....period

2) In my thread there has never been a phone that has received the "4 white triangles" (which is recoverable by the way)

3) There were people that flashed a wrong recovery. This didnt brick any phone and never has in any of the three root threads (zikronix, xHausx, amoamare). The only thing that has happened and will happen if you flash the incorrect recovery for your phone is you wont be able to flash roms. Technically you could loose RSA Keys or overwrite some other important info however, at the moment the only thing that has been confirmed was the inability to flash roms

4) The only thing that HAS bricked a phone is people downgrading their hboot. I advised against it. And just because it worked for me didnt mean it would for them. Some people that downgraded their hboot, recieved the black screen some people who downgraded, their phone works....and even then that can be recovered usually. And I pulled that because people cant read, and for the risks it carries! On top of that I didnt even create that package...some one else did. In fact there is another thread with the same idea and guess what the same problems are present. People DONT read.

And actually the phones that people "bricked" by doing the hboot downgrade was only a few. That can also be recovered (some of which we did) Its actually pretty difficult to brick an evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lithid-cm:
Ok Just so there is clarification whoever said it is based off the partions is correct. I have the 2.02 hboot. I flashed the clockwork 3.0.0.2 last night since its supports the newer hboots. Yet when i tried to use it it gets all borked up... I can't flash anything and just freezes. So i went into RomManager and said F it im going to see what amon_ra version my works with. So I flashed the alternate recovery. The one that wasn't modified and now my recovery is working again. like new. Everything is so weird.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cruise350:
When you check clockworkmods twitter feed he admits that the new rom manager and clockworkmod recovery won't work on phones with the old partition setup so use with caution. He basically said to bad since he doesn't have an evo to test on.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lithid-cm:
I was basically saying that don't judge it just because you have a 2.02
[EVO 4G Android Development] davenukem:
Will update op with the info gathered and links.
[EVO 4G Android Development] davenukem:
Finally question, is there any way to repartitions our devices to the newer serup?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrrogers1:
3.0.0.0 definitely not with the older but do we know/anyone confirm if either of the two revisions (which are automatically prompted in Rom Manager to update) that were released in the last 12hr or so work? The Amon_RA included in Rom Manager works aok with the older hardware.

Another question I have lingering is if one with the newer hardware were to make a NANDROID backup

Immediately after rooting and some how, through the wrong recovery method or something else, lost there RSA keys, would restoring that very first NANDROID fix things for them as far as the keys go? I just remember always reading that the first thing after rooting should be creating a NANDROID backup and putting it in a safe place.