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[Xperia Arc General] saltorio:
I'd much rather stock Android UI be available for my X10... in fact, give me stock Android. Then maybe we could get timely OS updates.
[Xperia Arc General] zer0nine:
New Xperia Arc

Original Post: http://www.phonedog.com/2011/01/05/...-with-gingerbread-and-an-extremely-thin-body/

GSM Arena Article: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericss...free_has_a_bravia_mobile_engine-news-2192.php

Thoughts?
[Xperia Arc General] Anandc:
Multitouch? Front facing camera?

Sad it does not have dual core.
[Xperia Arc General] SXUsr:
Not bad.

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[Xperia Arc General] mith500:
I am curious about the screen in the xperia arc with bravia mobile engine ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnpMz1kBTZM&feature=player_embedded

taken from here:

http://translate.google.com/transla...peria_arc_s_android_23_i_42-dyuimovym_ekranom
[Xperia Arc General] mith500:
just posted this in the other thread as well...

I am curious about the screen in the xperia arc with bravia mobile engine ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnpMz1kBTZM&feature=player_embedded

taken from here:

http://translate.google.com/transla...peria_arc_s_android_23_i_42-dyuimovym_ekranom
[Xperia Arc General] lasterbalg:
at the first look:

+ very nice looking

+ usb port at right side (not on top)

- seems to have no front cam for vtc
[Xperia Arc General] loneLEE:
Looks sexier and has a high-tech feel to it. But the main concern is that with the large area of silver linings at the side, it's gonna look fugly over time when the silver coating comes off.

Rachael still looks ok as the silver parts this just thin strips. I'm not too sure about this one, though.

That's why I like Sony Ericsson phones. They have great multimedia capabilities, with attractive outlook to boot.

Definitely a go for consumers who go for eyecandy stuff =D
[Xperia Arc General] batman_112:
I want one!!!
[Xperia Arc General] Bennachie:
Nice looking. Is it a PDA like X10 or is it a phone? ;)
[Xperia Arc General] pshdo:
Bad placed connectors...!

Is it with dualcore ?

Is it with REAL mt ?

Do this "flagship" have build in fm-radio ?

Is 4.2" enough for you to buy it, when nothing else is new, not even a better camera than X10 :rolleyes:

Nice looking though...

Sent from my Android...
[Xperia Arc General] aodmisery:
8mb pixel camera and 1ghz processor? just like the x10. i hope those specs dont get confirmed i dont want to upgrade to a phone with the same specs. is this the supposed x12? i hope not.
[Xperia Arc General] unknown13x:
Not dual core, but yes, REAL mt this time.

Don't talk about the camera until they tell you what sensor it equips. It is MUCH better than the X10, trust me, i know ;)
[Xperia Arc General] loneLEE:
Well, if it looks nicer and has better multimedia interface, I would~

Just look at the scrollable animated picture viewer widget thingee on the screen!

And a small widget for the music player? It really redefines the needs for multitasking, my friend ;)
[Xperia Arc General] unknown13x:
Yes, the new Bravia Engine will be equipped on all premium devices from SE this year. Also, the sensor for the camera is enhanced, it now uses the Exmor R sensors on all premium devices. The Arc will be the first to utilize both technologies, and more to come :)

Regarding the players, Mediascape is taken out I believe. It is replaced with something much better. I have no info on it however :)
[Xperia Arc General] mith500:
aah you mean the Sony EXMOR R sensor which takes good photos in low light:D
[Xperia Arc General] unknown13x:
Correcto ;) The detail level and color reproduction is way beyond what the X10 can do IMO I think SE just called in the death of Sony Cybershot cameras :D
[Xperia Arc General] mith500:
cant see the front facing cam, does it have one...or am I mistaking it for the proximity sensor?
[Xperia Arc General] peter_15:
will x10 have some Arc apps?
[Xperia Arc General] rabetionline:
Full Review

Here

I fell in love with ARC
[Xperia Arc General] aodmisery:
the problem with this phone is going by sony's past track record by the time they release this phone every other phone manufacture will already be dual core.
[Xperia Arc General] totalundone:
Looks like a beautiful phone. It seems that SE is keeping it simple with future updates too.

If I had to guess, this seems like it's the Xperia Neo (I think that's the 3" HVGA snapdragon setup) but with a higher resolution/larger screen. It would definitely keep development costs down (and probably help with supporting the X10, if they decide to)

Hey SE, a quick word to you guys'.

Keeping the X10 at 2.1 won't push me to buying a new SE with 2.3. Upgrading the X10 to 2.3 and introducing new hardware (screen looks fantastic, although a little too large) that also runs 2.3 does a lot more for me to consider upgrading to the next SE :)

edit: ok, so according to gsmarena this uses the 2nd gen snapdragon and not the 1st gen like the x10. oh well, performance should be nice at least.
[Xperia Arc General] unknown13x:
That's when we know if consumers are educated enough or not. This cpu is almost 4 times faster than the previous X10 and it has discrete gpu. There's nothing it cannot run. If people would complain about dual core then now I can careless because its beyond sufficient for daily use and it delivers what it promises.
[Xperia Arc General] qwer23:
How many phones did you see out there with stock Android? There's only 3 points to differentiate from other companies: User Interface, Phone design, Hardware specs. For regular customers (not us!) pretty much in this order sorted by importance, but that's just what I guess :p (I leave out the price cause everyone wants as much as possible for as cheap as possible ^^)

So if you sell your phone with stock android, it will be very hard to develop a phone with a unique feel. Nobody does this, except Google, but they're just promoting Android with their Nexus line.

We have to depend on our devs to get a nice, clean vanilla Android, like every owner of any smartphone :)
[Xperia Arc General] hamed1297:
we still waiting for good news.u know the best news for us is OS update for X10.
[Xperia Arc General] qwer23:
taken from your link:

Well, I read on another side that dual-core will be mandatory for Honeycomb. Is this info correct? Or is this CPU in fact powerful enough to run Honeycomb, besides singlecore?

This question is directed to you, unknown13x :rolleyes:
[Xperia Arc General] qwer23:
Another question just hit my mind: i guess the arc will get a powerfull camera flash and not just a pathetic LED?
[Xperia Arc General] freco:
No thanks. I love my X10 but I don't like SE. I bought it 550 euros and now cost 380 (maybe less) after 8 months because of SE faults and being late.

No more SE for me. Sorry.

Sent from my X10i.
[Xperia Arc General] qwer23:
I bought it in june 2010 for 310 euros - new and sealed. So i don't regret it at all ;)
[Xperia Arc General] biernes_atrece:
I'm loving the design!

and if this specs is true, I think this will be my next phone... finally
[Xperia Arc General] will.m:
I can't help but sense a hint of arrogance in this post. I don't take it personally, but wasn't the same thing said about the x10? I can understand your frustration dealing with fanatics all day. Don't get me wrong, I think the x10 is a fine phone that's does what it does ok, but it's not great considering it was released on 1.6 when all the buzz was about 2.2. With the hardware specs, flash shouldn't be an issue and then with the USB port problems, speaker quality, laggy operation. Not to say that other phones don't have their problems, they do. To be honest, it seems as if the x10 was a half-assed effort compared to the new models.

On the brightside, SE did provide 2.1, seems to release updates every quarter, and provide a proper warranty for gray market phones. These things are to be commended of course, but I can't shake the feeling that official x10 development is going to be ditched in less than a year.
[Xperia Arc General] pcfanboy142:
So it's basically an x10 with gingerbread.
[Xperia Arc General] pshdo:
SE have screwed me for the last time...

None for me, thank you...

SE will NEVER catch up with real smartphone manufactores like HTC in any way...

Sent from my HTC Desire HD running Quadrant benchmark @ 1923 on STOCK firmware B)
[Xperia Arc General] Mano1982:
Nice looking phone & good spec :)
[Xperia Arc General] totalundone:
These are the major hardware differences I've been able to gleem off several sites and posts...

New 8 mp sensor that's supposed to take far better photos in the dark

New LCD panel (looks to be far better)

HDMI output

1 Ghz Snapdragon 2 (the 800 Mhz S2 is slightly better than our 1 Ghz S1)

Probably at least 512 MB ram

True Multitouch

Seems like a decent hardware upgrade for a handset after a year

However, the Arc doesn't look like it's going to be the flagship. There's still one more handset.

Xperia Play: Slider w/ gamepad

Xperia Arc (ie. LT15): This phone

Xperia Neo: 3" mini replacement w/ front facing cam

Xperia Duo (ie. MT15): Sequel to the X10? From some of the shots we've seen, it has a front facing camera and is larger than the Neo...
[Xperia Arc General] freco:
You are from the lucky ones. I bought it without contract.

Even HTC Touch Pro that I bought before 2,5 - 3 years (which runs FROYO !!! Yes) has the same price as an 8 month released X10.

Why the hell they made latest update unrootable? Why dont they release bootloader lock? To buy ther new ****ware telephone?

SE has to do real progress to get me back.

We want powerfull SMARTPHONES to PLAY with. Timescape and Mediascape does not make their phones smarter than a cheap NOKIA with Twitter and Facebook access.:mad:
[Xperia Arc General] qwer23:
I also bought without contract, but i bought it from private on ebay. Had a good shot since the seller didn't know how Xperia is spelled correctly so there were only a few to outbid ;)

But just wait until the CES begins, I think we'll see a lot from all the manufacturers and hopefully SE will not only own them in design. I'm still waiting for pix and specs for the Xperia NEO...
[Xperia Arc General] Soutaiseiriron:
I hope this comes to rogers. I dont really need a dual core, I could just play starcraft at home.
[Xperia Arc General] Bennachie:
Is it a PDA or is it a phone? Only time will tell.

My X10 PDA is the best PDA i've had,

and the worst phone.

I bought it as a phone, can I sue for not being fit for purpose?
[Xperia Arc General] :
Ups, I already posted something about this new phone in other forum, so excuse me but I'll just copy/paste some points of my post:

Personally, I find its form so ugly, even if is a really thin phone. I don't see any characteristics to be so astonished... but I must accept that Gingerbread, Multitouch and the HDMI are very good features.

I'm happy with my X10, I barely have a month with it and I don't think about changing phone at least in two years. I can tell you guys I won't have an inferiority complex when Xperia 'X12' (officially ARC) is finally launched by SE, althought it's supposed to be better than X10 (in fact, some features make it 'kinda' better, but not much better... My opinion). I rather to think in some good phone that SE will be promoting in two years (around 2013), and what version of Android will run... Of course if SE decides to stay with Android, just image how much this OS will evolve :eek:
[Xperia Arc General] peter_15:
The Sony Ericsson Xperia arc at a glance

Camera

8.1 megapixel camera

Up to 2.46x Smart zoom

Auto focus

Touch focus

Video recording

Connectivity

3.5 mm audio jack

Bluetooth™ technology

HDMI

USB support

Wi-Fi™

Screen

Sony Mobile Bravia Engine

16,777,216 colour multi-touch screen

4.2 inches

480 x 854 pixels (WVGA)

Scratch-resistant

Facts

Size: 125 x 63 x 8.7 mm

Weight: 117 grams

Phone memory: Up to 512 MB

Memory card support: microSD™

Memory card included: 16 GB

Operating system: Google™ Android 2.3

Processor: 1GHz Qualcomm

Networks

UMTS HSPA 900, 2100

GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900

UMTS HSPA 800, 850, 1900, 2100

GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900

Colours

Midnight Blue

Misty Silver

Xperia™ arc will be available in selected markets in Q1 2011.

http://semcblog.com/2011/01/05/meet-the-new-sony-ericsson-xperia-arc/
[Xperia Arc General] aodmisery:
i kinda agree with you about the form, i mean i like the phone i think it looks nice but just by looking at it i feel that it will be awkward to hold or uncomfortable when talking on it because of the curve. and im glad sony still has one more phone to show cause im not impressed yet. hopefully the neo will be something good.
[Xperia Arc General] :
Xperia NEO? Yeah I've read one more ppl mentioning it. Can you tell me more about it?
[Xperia Arc General] unknown13x:
Sad to say all the names are not even finalized. Neo? Duo? Never heard of them. Where's the info from? All I know is they're still codenames so far. Can we please stay on topic? This is not an X10 bashing thread.

Regarding the X10 I have already said in another thread to wait til after CES. There's some good news but not enough info yet. Which is why I have not disclose the information. Looking at all these reactions is now making me having second thoughts if I want to share the news or not. :(
[Xperia Arc General] Jmercy09:
lol! I'm leaning more towards pda.
[Xperia Arc General] im_iceman:
hey unknown13... ignore the haters, they'll all come round when they realise that SE have properly up'd their game and delivered some genuine candidates for best phone of 2011!...
[Xperia Arc General] Infinity1988:
Yeah some of the reactions are harsh and stupid, but please don't punish the people who behave :p.

The call volume increased in 2.1 compared to 1.6. But it's still low compared to my k750. I just wonder if it's hardware or software related, or maby a combination of both?

I hope they fix the choppy scrolling and finetune the camera some more. The camera is very good, but i've got a feeling it can be finetuned like they did with the k750.

But looking at the whole package, the x10 was certainly the best choice at release. Its still even better than many other phones at this moment in my opinion. It uses very good hardware(crisp lcd, very good cmos sensor with great colors). it also has unique software.

OT: Finally Sony Ericsson is using the back illuminated sensor! I'm not going to upgrade because i'm still a student, don't have the money to buy a 500€ phone every year. But it looks like a very good phone. The cmos sensor and bravia engine sound very promising. Hopefully they will also use their super lcd panels.
[Xperia Arc General] qwer23:
Ignore those posts, it's always the same people. With their stupid comments they drive away the people who actually want to contribute. Don't let that happen to you!

A few pages back I asked if the arc will have a (xenon) camera flash or again a LED. Since I think you already tried the device (thinking of your statement about camera quality), can you say anything about that?

Cheers

qwer23
[Xperia Arc General] pngface:
Pls ignore the haters :)

By after CES do you mean after Sony's press event in a couple of hours?
[Xperia Arc General] mezo9090:
@unknown13

Of the things I've seen on this post, I couldn't help but to notice the new UI on the 1st post...

I wonder if we are getting it ?
[Xperia Arc General] Infinity1988:
I think it's going to be a led flash. Look here http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_arc-3619.php

If you look at the pictures it also looks more like a led flash than a xenon flash.
[Xperia Arc General] qwer23:
Thanks for the info. It's quite of a drawback though. We'll have to wait how quality turns out to be.
[Xperia Arc General] aodmisery:
i heard the name on this thread, so im just repeating what i read, and on another post it shows theres supposed to be 4 phones by sony the psp phone, the anzu, a new mini phone and the (neo) or whaterver its called
[Xperia Arc General] rabetionline:
Does XPERIA ARC have front Camera?

Where is its speakers?

in the pictures i did not see those.
[Xperia Arc General] unknown13x:
Yes, it is an LED only, why need a Xenon when you have Exmor-R? :p

No it does not, why? I don't know, do not ask me why. Hallon will have it, not Arc. My guess would be its not its main purpose to be a full communication device, which is Hallon's target. The Arc is for entertainment purpose mostly.

Regarding my last post, I just think it's ridiculous how much negativity is going on. I'm not doing this for money or what not, but to keep the hypes going, which SE mainly failed to do, and I'm doing this because this is the company I dearly love and I'm giving you guys news so no love goes away. What is lacking in some people is just patience and "to a point" knowledge, so when something doesn't go there way, then trolls start stampeding. It's really ridiculous IMO

The details for X10 will be updated AFTER CES ends, which is probably next monday at earliest. I don't want to push out info right now, just want you guys to enjoy the new handsets. Then I'll update you guys regarding the X10 future update(if I get any new info). Cheers :)
[Xperia Arc General] saltorio:
Any hints at how excited we should/shouldn't be regarding new X10 updates to be announced? :D
[Xperia Arc General] unknown13x:
To be honest, I don't know the degree either, because I need to find out more info regarding it. So I honestly cannot tell myself if it is that great news of a news or not until more info comes out. But I'll let you guys know if anything comes out.
[Xperia Arc General] ballubas:
i think our x10 is gonna stay gracefully along her new brothers and sisters for a while to come in the main stream for only good reasons, ie latest android, camera improvements, etc etc......
[Xperia Arc General] Wolfbreak:
Its looks beautiful
[Xperia Arc General] biernes_atrece:
hands on pic from CES by engadget:

http://www.engadget.com/photos/sony-xperia-arc-hands-on/#3745598

i like the silver better. i just hope they release it sooner
[Xperia Arc General] kitsVA:
Just when I got excited about Arc, I read about Motorola Atrix 4G. Atrix is so freaking advanced in hardware specs. Do anyone care about Arc anymore? I know I will still get Arc for the styling but I really have to give it a thought now as Atrix probably will be discounted a lot by AT&T.
[Xperia Arc General] augie7107:
As with most SE devices, looks very impressive.

Q1 will morph to Q4 as SE never releases anything at deadline.

Will the device impress under the hood? Can you actually hear the caller when used as a phone? Will the battery last more than four hours with the Bravia mobile engine enabled? Will they imbed base Android code with unnecessary SE fluff making updates into long waits and outdated versions?

These are the questions I would ask before getting my hopes up.
[Xperia Arc General] Jmercy09:
Meh...

The camera and cpu are both better than the x10. There are more factors that play into the 8mp camera and cpu. The camera has better sensor and takes better shots in the dark than the x10. The processor is still 1ghz, but it has a newer cpu architecture and better efficiency.
[Xperia Arc General] muratbaizhanov:
i'll wait until bin4ry extract the rom from the arc to our x10 :-P
[Xperia Arc General] leonardzheng:
Most SE phones are beautiful. That's why I like it.
[Xperia Arc General] batman_112:
I find it perplexing and extremely frustrating that the Hallon will have a front facing camera while the arc will not! Very weird decision by SE! :confused: :eek:
[Xperia Arc General] pngface:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Atrix comes with 2.2 while Arc comes with 2.3.

Atleast for once SE users will be at the latest android version.
[Xperia Arc General] aodmisery:
is hallon supposed to be a more powerful phone than arc? or less powerful? if its more might be the reason it has the front facing camera, i guess were gonna have to wait till they officially announce the hallon
[Xperia Arc General] egyptshun:
my next phone :)
[Xperia Arc General] loneLEE:
Actually, I still will prefer Arc, as it beats Motorola's design. The previous model was too squarish and angular. Now that they've decided to make it curvy, they make it an iPhone wannabe.

I believe the last thing Android owners would wanna hear is that we are just Apples' copycats.
[Xperia Arc General] unknown13x:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/android-2-4-gingerbread-breaks-loose-on-a-prototype-sony-ericsso/

This is why 3.0 is not for us, because Ice Cream is on the way :D
[Xperia Arc General] Darthhister:
I dont know if I'd get a PSP phone or this one. But I can say this, 9mm thick! Take that I(just want to fit in)Phone 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Xperia Arc General] pshdo:
Interresting enough thoug, the X10 can also run a lot more than 4 times faster, than it do on the stock S/E rom.

Just look in the dev section m8...;)

- so nothing have actually changed :rolleyes:

The only problem is that S/E don´t have the knowledge (?), to optimize the X10 themself...

- or perhaps S/E just hold back the good stuff, as usual in the belive that we will buy more cr.. from them ?

Do S/E actually think that we will buy a new "flagship", with the same spec. as the old X10, just becourse S/E thistime have optimized the new firmware to run faster...?

S/E is not educated enough to know when people feels like they have been screwed...!

And last:

To optimize the firmware to the point it should allready have been on the X10, do NOT make the phone a dualcore phone, not even close !

Are S/E not educated enough to know the difference ??

Good luck with the new "flagship"...:rolleyes:
[Xperia Arc General] unknown13x:
Not really, just have to choose, a bigger screen or front camera :D They each serve for different purpose.
[Xperia Arc General] aosi:
-CHECK THIS OUT ANDROID 2.4

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/android-2-4-gingerbread-breaks-loose-on-a-prototype-sony-ericsso/

---edsit

someone already post it u.u, but why SE is doing that kind of things, we dont have 2.2 and those phones have a version that doesnt exist
[Xperia Arc General] unknown13x:
Same specs? Look again. Before bashing, look at the specs and re-edit your post. Thanks. You just gave yourself an example of one no? Also, simple math, if X10 can run 4 times faster with clean roms, how much can the new ones run with clean roms? You tell me :rolleyes:
[Xperia Arc General] anders260:
Ice Cream? Any more teaser on new x10 updates?
[Xperia Arc General] kistigun:
Here's a hands on article about android 2.4 on the arc:

http://tweakers.net/reviews/1944/1/ces-hands-on-android-24-gingerbread-reloaded-inleiding.html

its in dutch, here a translation from google translate:

http://translate.google.com/transla...ndroid-24-gingerbread-reloaded-inleiding.html
[Xperia Arc General] mezo9090:
First let me say something, away from any spec sheet, that phone is as usual.. SEXY!!!

SE is soooo good at their design, and kinda have its on style, just imagine yourself holding it .. SEXY!!!

If you want to talk about the hardware and software spec, ok here we go,

IF and only IF this device is available in market in max half Q2

With 2.3 ( 2.4 ? ) that will be great, it will mean updated SE phone is finally in the market - unlike another phone ;)

Looking at the duel core issue, just for the info, only the software will be able to use that feature and only in certain conditions, it will take time for developers to make use of it,

I can't talk about the camera sensor since I have know knowledge on that but you can read previous posts in this thread,

My overall impression about is like this,

Its the next sexy phone I would like to buy from SE, BUT I can't risk another heart attack with the device updates .. - damn I still even remember the 2.1 update thread -

Hope I am not considered as a spammers/hater/troll/whatever
[Xperia Arc General] reptile64:
I never, never saw a single person in my life using video-call on his handset! And my question is.. do you really need it guys???
[Xperia Arc General] k1018277:
BEAUTIFUL!!! I want one.
[Xperia Arc General] rabetionline:
Official Specs of arc

XPERIA arc

This phone dose not have Secondary camera and GPS.
[Xperia Arc General] Infinity1988:
Look again, it does have gps. Probably every smartphone has gps.