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[Droid Incredible Android Development] roninld:
On my apps list I have 2 "Clock" apps. The circular black one is the HTC alarm clock. The square white one is the one that works with current lock screen.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Iamshakes:
I must be crazy or its part of the no - sense zip but I have no HTC clock in the Tom only the vanilla desk clock which chingy remapped so when you use that you have no issues with the alarm not shutting off
[Droid Incredible Android Development] WormDoes:
That must be because you flashed the sense removal. I flashed the ROM as is and I have both clocks. I've been around long enough to know the difference between the 2 clocks/LS and which work and don't. It amases me how many people can root their phones and not know the difference between Vanilla Clock/LS and Sense Clock/LS. It makes me LOL at all these posts
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Jola66:
, anyone else having 3g browser speed issues with this rom?

With this version my browser is generally really slow under 3g no matter how great my signal is
[Droid Incredible Android Development] qumahlin:
Missing Multicolor Circle Battery

Does anyone have a working version of the flat multicolor circle battery for 2.3? It's not in the OP, the only one there is the 3d looking one which im not a fan of.

I also noticed unlike the past battery mods, these doesn't have the "smooth" charging animations.

Everything else is amazing as usual
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mech_egr:
Looks like it would work but I don't have a twitter apk in that folder
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SimpTheChimp:
Using Lou's #9 on this ROM?

Chingy,

Any special reason you used Lou's #8 kernel instead of the new #9? Just curious... And has anyone replaced the kernel with #9 on this ROM? Any problems, benefits, etc?

/Tom (Chimp)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] qumahlin:
Well its really dependent on what you use your phone for. #8 is CFS which is better for multitasking and #9 is BFS which is better for singular tasks, but chokes when multitasking.

When it comes to kernels each one has its own benefits and drawbacks so using the newest kernel does not = the best performance. Each one is not a direct improvement over the last, hence why Lou has them all up for download with the features of each.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nic2112:
That's part of how the framework is built. This ROM uses less battery charging images, less sync images and probably more that I haven't noticed. It was probably made that way to make the ROM faster. If for example the framework only uses 5 charging animations, it doesn't matter if you have the 31ish that the smooth charging is, it'll only display the first 5
[Droid Incredible Android Development] WormDoes:
I'm currently using #9. Have no issues, running flawlessly, smooth, fast and battery efficient. Nandroid and give it a shot
[Droid Incredible Android Development] qumahlin:
hmmm, very disappointed if thats the case, but thanks for the info.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JeeperDon:
If it changes the charging image once every .2 seconds or so, it doesn't matter which image it picks. Each blink is an image load, whether it's cycling from 0-5 or 0-32 doesn't matter. To make the phone faster, just make the wind-up a bit slower, not the image count less. That is one change that is very much disliked by me, and a number of others here. I'd like to see a patch for that code back to the 0-32 method.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TGELHAUS:
Hey Chingy, any luck on the Z music player? Just curious. Thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SoundMessage:
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[Droid Incredible Android Development] chingy51o:
Ok guys after reading through numerous post here's some explanations..

So why is there two clocks in your app drawer?

Because i have decided to set the vanilla lockscreen by default the DeskClock is

necessary

for your alarm to work. If you try to set the HTC alarm clock (while using the vanilla lockscreen), when it goes off you will not be able to turn it off and you will have to pull your battery. If you absoutely have to use the HTc lockscreen or HTC clock heres what you can do...

1. Navigate to system/app and rename the HtcLockscreen.bak to HtcLockscreen.apk

2. Delete the DeskClock.apk

3. Download the remapped (to the Htc Clock) HtcClockWidget.apk from the 2nd post and FLASH it.

And you guys may be mad upset the smooth charging it gone. Well i did this for numerous reasons..

1. Yeah it looks nicer but seriously who the hell cares how "smooth or nice" the animation is. All you need to know is if its charging. And most people carge when their asleep so dont even see this. I myself never charge my phone as i have 3 batteries i just swap in and out as necessary

2. Less images = smaller framework (Took out about 27 PNGs)

3. Mik's rom uses 5 charging images also and we wanted to make all of our mods cross compatible which is why mine also has 5 images..

Why did i use Lou's #8 and not #9?

Guys newer does NOT mean its better... I hate how everyone has this construed view of things. (For example with Gingerbread, It's a POS in my opinion, but because its newer everyone thinks is HAS to be better). If you guys would do your research rather then basing things off of a higher (newer) number you would know that #8 uses CFS and #9 uses BFS. I personally prefer CFS which is why #8 is on it. ANY sense kernel will work with this rom so if you want to use 9 go for it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] spence341:
I am amazed at all the chatter here. The past 10-15 pages have been full of questions that are either in the 1st 3 posts or pretty commonly known things (trackball wake and alarm w/rotary). All this clutter is what causes dev's to not what to do this anymore.

All I can say is WOW to the amount of effort that went into this ROM and all the options.

Thanks chingy!

Oh yeah, on Lou's 9, I had experienced sporadic freezes. Kernels are made to flash. Chingy can't put all of them in, he needs to choose one. The why 8 not 9 question is like asking why did you buy an automatic transmission instead of standard.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KGBxxx:
Not sure why that's disapointing. Unless you like to stare at the charging animation.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] KGBxxx:
Lmao. I haven't seen this many noobs since WoW first came out. But we all eventually learn.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chingy51o:
EXACTLY. people really act like the stare at it.. all you need to see is its charging..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nic2112:
If the full framework has to be loaded into memory, then less images is definitely better. 31ish images for the charging animation makes for a nice smooth animation but I much prefer having a faster phone and a choppy charge animation, than spend CPU and Memory managing something I'm not looking at. The sync animation could also be a single image letting you know that sync is in progress. Is it nice to see it spin, sure, but it's something i could live without.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] -Michael_:
Word... as long as the damn led turns on and it is indeed charging who cares.

I get this mental image of... ah that's not going anywhere good nvm hah!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nic2112:
It's like having a race car and someone stripped the interior to make it lighter and go faster, and then you ask them "well where am I supposed to put the baby seat now?". If you want room for your kid, get a minivan, not a race car.

This ROM is fast because it's been stripped. If you want lots of cool animations, get a full sense ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] titans808:
Chingy or anyone else, what do I need to edit in the QWERTY.kl file to remove trackball wake thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nic2112:
Wait for TWO sunders before you start DPSing, assist the tank.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sShadowSs:
3G and arrows changed!

First off - AWESOME ROM !!! Great job to the developer and everyone who helped him.

Here's the issue that I have - I was applying various mods like "Speedo Battery" and the "Carbon Lock Screen", after one of these was applied and phone restarted, it changed the 3G icon on my phone. Instead of having a large 3G letters with up and down arrows to the left of it, I now have tiny a$$ 3G letters with even tinier up and down arrows above it.

How can I switch back to the original indicator ? I've tried applying "Stock Taskbar" from recovery - no help, applied stock 6 signal bars with Meta, no help. Any ideas ?

Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chingy51o:
i would just say reflash the rom

also i posed various statusbar opacity's in the 2nd post everyone
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
That problem (with being unable to shut off the stock HTC alarm without a battery pull) is not unique to Re-Engineered. I've experienced it with Virtuous. It is precisely as Chingy describes.

And Lou's kernels are not numbered in order of "newness," but by his own arbitrary set of features. I definitely do not want BFS in my kernel.

Chingy, you are way too kind to your users. Getting ready to flash this bad boy.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] WormDoes:
Seriously, these last 10 pages or so are embarassing as ****! I love that people root their phones, but don't know the basics of vanilla vs sense (lockscreen/alarm debacle) I bet if we polled 10 of these noobs and asked what root was we'd get MAYBE 20% knowing the correct answer and the rest with answers like, "uhhhh, lets me do cool stuff to my phone" HAHAHAHAHA
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SoundMessage:
Here you go...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mech_egr:
Thanks a lot- I even looked in that folder within the zip file and couldn't find the twitter apk's
[Droid Incredible Android Development] d_1000:
I can't get Metamorph to install (I posted that comment earlier).....would anyone be able to make Riptide's Status Bar into a flashable mod? Is it even possible? Here is a link from the OP to the Metamorph version.

Thank you.

http://www.mediafire.com/?mtp6bjdbwzpddc1
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nic2112:
Thanks, I was looking for something inbetween :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] d_1000:
You.....will NOT be disappointed...I have tried MANY ROMs and this one is definitely the best! :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nic2112:
Unless you are a huge fan of a smooth charging animation, then you will be just as sad as the superbowl halftime show.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chingy51o:
oops. should be 0%. ill fix that
[Droid Incredible Android Development] suprafreak1000:
Hahaha I loled. I couldn't believe that guy a few pages back
[Droid Incredible Android Development] WormDoes:
Just flashed the remove sense zip and WOW this thing is crazy fast now! Didn't think it was possible to make this ROM faster :eek:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mp3sum:
I think labeling someone a noob for pointing out that there is no good reason for having removed the battery images (unless you prefer choppy) is, well... noobish.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbdan:
This thing is a lot of fun I'm continually impressed with it. Your awfully patient chingy with the laziness some have chosen. Tip my hat to you.

On another note the thing about this ROM+kernel combo that blows me away is not the speed. Yeah that is good and all, but the battery life is superior to any combo I've ever loaded. chingROM+louKERNEL= a cut above the rest
[Droid Incredible Android Development] WormDoes:
He wasn't labeling anyone a noob. It was someone else and I believe he was refering to the people who couldn't tell the difference between the vanilla alarm/LS and sense alarm/LS. I personally can't believe it either and I think it's rather pathetic to be honest. The charging thing, who cares, IMO. If it charges, I'm happy, I don't care what it looks like and if you do you should probably find a hobby, no offense, it's just seems rather nit picky is all
[Droid Incredible Android Development] suprafreak1000:
^ agreed Dan. My battery life is ridonculous now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbdan:
Chingy build your ROM. There are so many other ROM choices. There will ALWAYS be those that will not be content or pleased. You cannot cater to all. Keep up the good work
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nic2112:
I agree, a BFS Kernel is great if you want to showoff quadrant scores, but overall a CFS kernel works better for me and battery life seems better but that's always hard to tell because my usage is never the same.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] derickmc:
Thanks man! You are awesome!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] AndrewGL:
It's Simi Clock Widget and Beautiful Widgets Weather 4x1

What you do it place both on your homescreen, then stretch simi clock widget over beautiful widgets to get the unified effect with ADW or Launcherpro's widget resize feature-
[Droid Incredible Android Development] whozamazinka:
Chingy,

JeeperDon had posted a zip for power status bar icons that went grey when toggled off a few pages back. (pg 233 to be exact.) There was some mention by you of optimizing these and posting them on the first page. Are you still considering doing that? (Not pushing...just wondering.)

Thanks again for all of your hard work on this ROM. It really is excellent.

Also thank you for entertaining everyone else's requests for what they want. It really is magnanimous of you to try and create a ROM that will please so many different types of style and tastes. I certainly couldn't do it.

Thank you!

Jim
[Droid Incredible Android Development] AndrewGL:
He explained the reasons a few threads back dude.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chingy51o:
posted some more rosie mods.. i think they look really good.. lol let me know if you guys like them.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gruss01:
Hate to repost the same question but I can not figure out why my wma's wont play since installing this rom? all the smooth circle battery talk is intriguing ;) but I didnt really miss that. So far this has been exceptionally smooth and everything is working very nicely so your dev'ing is much appreciated Chingy. Any insight would be appreciated though. I'll say this the ROM is so good right now I've actually started to convert some of my old wmas to mp3 anyway....and if anyone says "why wma?" well back in the day i made them they sounded better, and I'm old. Any help appreciated though!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chingy51o:
i dont think htc's music app supports wma's... try downloading poweramp. im sure that will do it for you.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] orphicone:
anyone have a favorite set of animations?

also, anyone know how to make the notification pull down window NOT transparent and just black? (the titlebar MM dont effect that right?)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] qumahlin:
Well Thanks for the work Chingy, but after the below comment I think ill pass in the future of giving any feedback or bug reports on the rom if the response is to attack the userbase you asked for the feedback from in the first place

"1. Yeah it looks nicer but seriously who the hell cares how "smooth or nice" the animation is. All you need to know is if its charging. And most people carge when their asleep so dont even see this. I myself never charge my phone as i have 3 batteries i just swap in and out as necessary"

Lesson here is don't ask for feedback from your users if your response is to get pissy and defensive when they don't like a change you made. Want to know who cares? The people posting they care, thats who. If you don't want feedback, don't ask for it simple as that.

All you've done is managed to show that you built a good rom and now the psuedo XDA popularity has gone to your head. Quite dissappointing given your friendly attitude in previous posts prior to the hullabaloo surrounding 2.3

Best of luck to you.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] derickmc:
I'm sure he didn't mean it in the context u are implying.. all he is saying is its a somewhat useless feature that makes the framework larger than it needs to be.. I did not sense any "pissyness" when I read this the first time. Just a good explination to why it wasn't included.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gruss01:
Ill give that a try but they have been on here since before root. They play on Eris too. Tunewiki played them before as well on various roms. Not a deal breaker since I've been wanting to convert anyway.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chingy51o:
lolololololololololol.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] orphicone:
Agree with this. More than one person said it'd be nice to fix the charging animation and they were attacked. I can see just saying no, that's within reason. But attacking them and saying it doesnt matter is strange.

He has a similar attitude to listing the bugs in his rom. Refuses to post about sketchy MMS or other things and then this thread is flooded with people asking about it.

That being said, the rom is amazing. Certainly it is up to us to decide what missing features are a deal breaker for us and the devs owe us nothing to fix it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chingy51o:
dont take this the wrong way. not tryingto be a ****. but..

fix the charging animation? its not broken.. and how was i attacking anyone. i simply explained my reasoning. if i just flat out said no that would have been even more of a **** move imo

and ive already said i have spent hours tryign to fix the mms but i cant figure it out. and i believe jeeperdon did research on it and stated its an issue with the phone not the rom. and even after that people keep asking about it. im not gonna answer the same question 100 times ya know?

and im sorry if i cant get to everyones requests/questions. some stuff just isnt worth me answering especially when the person asking the question is too lazy to read the first 3 post which is all i ask from you guys.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] orphicone:
I wasnt trying to get on your ass to fix MMS. In fact, it doesnt bother me and I can accept the way it works because it isnt that big of a deal as you said before. I have more of an issue with not listing it as a 'known issue'.

Though, at the rate people are posting they wouldnt read it anyway :)

How you may want to consider handling issues like the charging animation is just say "i did it for efficiency, i have no intention of changing it back" and that would be just fine. Whatever though. Love the rom :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] derickmc:
Well said man. Well said...

This is Hands Down the BEST Sense ROM out right now. If people want to get upset over a tiny little detail like a charging animation or MMS over wifi that isnt even a problem with the ROM, Then they're not worth the effort. You're doing a great job Chingy. I couldn't have asked for all the mods and themeing you have done here. Seriously bro, Amazing job!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chingy51o:
thank you. good to know we have some grateful people here =P hahah
[Droid Incredible Android Development] -Michael_:
The MMS has nothing to do with the phone, has to do with EVO based framework running on this phone. Just saying...

My wife, brother, father in law, 2 co workers and neighbor all have incredibles and experience the same thing when I put this rom or myns on them, its the evo framework in your rom and myns 5.3 incredible port breaking the mms video issue simple as that. Its all good that's why I have nandroids of other good roms. Its not like I'm going to donate again as i just wont use it. But it should be listed as abug
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tktouch12:
ok, come on guys. chingy has been working hours and hours to get us the best rom possible. its the fastest/best inc rom i've ever used, so he did a very good job. i think all of us would be a little edgy after spending that much time making a rom thats this good. he's being honest, i appreciate that. he has important things to do, he does this for donations only, and he does a dang good job.

yes it may not be perfect, but its more perfect than anything else i've used.

he has a right to be a little cocky (not saying he is)

good job chingy
[Droid Incredible Android Development] -Michael_:
Maybe if it were listed as a bug that your not capable of solving poeple would think twice about spending hours trying to help fix it and in turn one less thing for them to "complain" about in the thread. Knowing what your getting into is one thing.. not, well that just sucks.. and maybe knowing that your not going to fix it would illeviate alot of bullcrap for me. poeple could just cut their losses and move on..

C'ya and nice rom beyond that. Id love to run it honestly but...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JeeperDon:
That is true, in that you chose to make the change to 0-5 step animation images from the OEM Android 2.2 0-32 step. This forces us to use only the battery MMs you altered to 0-5, though prior to your 2.3 we could use any image set from any vendor. I have a favorite battery image set I use on any rom I have used (and I do love your work this and don't plan on changing, maybe ever).

The "who gives a frell, if you see it blinking and its charging" some have said above is not how everyone uses the phone. I for one appreciated that I could always tell the difference between 80% and 96% charged as I unplug to leave the house for the day. It is what it is though I guess, and you will do what you are willing to do.

Oh, and don't forget to study for the remaining mid-terms.:D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Iamshakes:
christ guys, these Devs do work for fun and let most of us ride their coat tails to get a nice working rom. If you don't like the rom find a different one or invest the time to learn how to make the changes yourself. This rom is popular because its fast, well developed, and Chingy does a lot of personal requests for his user base.

complaining about MMS or complaining about 5 vs 32 battery charging images just dumbfounds me. You probably have 3g service wherever you are, if you need to send a MMS turn off wifi press send turn on wifi. If you are honestly staring at the battery icon charging have you tried watching paint dry?

Chingy, i hope these people don't deter you too much because i really enjoy your work and would hate to lose you as a developer.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chingy51o:
got one tomorrow -_- need to stop procrastinating.... can someone block this website from me for a bit? haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] WormDoes:
AFA, what a few have said, I too hope this drama doesn't leave a bad taste in your mouth, Chingy. There's a lot of people in here who appreciate and respect the hard work put into this release. This is the best ROM I've ever flashed and I can't thank you enough for making my Inc this much better!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hellzya:
chingy non of the opacity transparent bars are working in mm ive tryed all of them. It says theme control file is missing?

Sent from my Dell Streak 7
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jshifty:
So I have been trying to apply the Clear-Clear-Clear Rosie 4*4 workspace and every time I wipe and try to reapply in recovery I get the above Rosie. What am I doing writes wrong?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mp3sum:
Real quick, the majority of suggestion-based posts thus far have been polite and courteous. Why would that "leave a bad taste" in chingy's mouth? Should we love everything posted on XDA and NOT comment on how we feel a ROM might be improved? If so, then apologies in advance for any additional posts I make concerning potential improvements or shortcomings, they are guaranteed to piss y'all off :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] derickmc:
Another sexy screenshot of the Red Theme in action with Myns Rosie, 4x5 workspace and Red Themed GB keyboard!! LOVE THIS ROM!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] EgoDogg:
I had that problem too. I gave up and flashed it in recovery and it worked perfectly.

And Chingy, best ROM ever! Just wanted to be another one to show you my appreciation. Thank you!!!