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[HD2 General] aceo07:
Using the stock ROM with CHT, BSBTweaks, BatClock and some others.

I've had an Android phone before and have also used Android on the HD2.
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
well before the powers that be shut this down as they do with anything they dont feel we simple folk can talk about, heres what i think

Firstly i cant vote, Like most people i either am at work or not, if im in work then i will use WM 6.5.3, its simply the best OS for my work, it does everything i need and more, it looks great and runs fast. If im not at work i use Android off the SD card, its fun and funky what it lacks in a business sense it makes up for on a social level.

Anyway i cant vote on your poll as you dont have the right option an you seem to have got a tad confused on what options are available to android too.

NAND (ie where WM is installed just now) and SD are the main runners, there is a project that lets you run some of the core OS files from RAM too.

Frankly though, i have absolutely no problems with the device running of SD, if it could run faster from NAND or RAM then the limiting factor would be myself but i cant move my fingers any quicker so what all the fuss with moving off SD is about i dont know.

Anyhow, i never thought id find the perfect phone that does everything but with android on SD and WM on NAND ive got it,

easy upgrades for android with no loss of data, upgrade WM and ROM with no loss of android, all my WM apps installed to SD as well so if worst came to worst all i need to do is make regular copies of my SD card and im sorted no hassle and all my needs forfilled
[HD2 General] the-wrangler:
well i prefer windows by a long shot BUT i really did like typing with the android keyboard vs the windows one. the android one works very very well in my opinion.
[HD2 General] Smartphoner:
I like both OS!!

Same here, i do u use both! WM faster and less battery consumption, android (SD) more apps and better usability in many things!!

A question to ask..... i want to upgrade my stock rom and radio (TMOUS, rom 2.10, radio 2.08 to rom 3.14, radio 2.15), do i have to reformat the sdcard, putting in mind losing all installed wm apps and established android with its apps and everything??????? or will everything work fine without formatting??!!

Plz help and thanx in advance!!
[HD2 General] droidrage:
I've been using an old KWBR rom for half a year now. It needs a soft reset every now and then, but besides that, it's been stable and great.

I've tried a couple Android builds on SD. They were also great, especially the kb and stability.

Everytime I came back to WinMO tho I found things to appreciate about it. I think HTC did a great job with Sense. The only problem I have is the SMS lag, but I can live with it.

The camera is great, album gallery, music gallery, everything. I think I'll probably stick to WinMO until it's time to buy a new phone.
[HD2 General] ata.music:
Android NAND all the way!
[HD2 General] dodadent:
I use both, but NAND from Today...
[HD2 General] Bixx:
I was more than happy with a Winmo custom rom, I had no reset or freezes, but having tried Android there is no going back.

Not too sure about nand for UK HD2's, I keep running out of memory.

Still trying different builds and it's early days yet. ;)

It reminds me of the Touch diamond trying to run Winmo 6.5, did it in the end without too much trouble.
[HD2 General] rcf2:
junst find out that there are no good replacement for Active Sync to have all my Outlook from the laptop on the cell phone on Android or Symbian 3 (N8). So, after a quick love with Sony X10, Moto X720 and Nokia N8 (all great cameras but N8 is unbeliavable good) got back to my trusty HD2.
[HD2 General] shubh.27hd2:
Definitely... android much better...
[HD2 General] Kiril1001:
Wm is much better than android, when it comes to business. With Android you cant edit documents, browser takes more clicks to navigate, Hotmail email account does not sync all folders ( only inbox folder synced ).

Only advantage of Android is Flash support, other than that not very usable.

But it's fun, anyway people who need to play games or check how fast their phone is, Android id the choice. For anything else - WM .
[HD2 General] Kiril1001:
BTW, I had android Drkstone installed on cd for a week or so, often switched between WM and android, and anytime I did so, my initial thought was, what the hell I put this android on my cd card for?

Finally removed android, because found it not very usable for business. If WP7 port becomes available for HD2 I may consider leaving WM 6.5. But for now it is still the best mobile OS.
[HD2 General] atomical007:
I used Dutty's rom and android on SD card.I have test NandDroid,but switch back to use Winmo with SDdroid.:D
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
Nope you dont need to reformat your SD, pull it out if you have any doubt, just really realy make sure you read the threads before updating, 9 times out of 10 it will work fine but if you read through it all first an it goes tits up, it will save you some flapping time if you know what to do! :)
[HD2 General] 2happy:
i have not tried the NAND version.i am sure its good.i have been using daily mdj revolution hd sd version.and very happy with it.and gives a choice of using winmo time to time.work colleague of mine has wp7 on the contract.and he was showing of the phone at the work place.and told me that my phone was out of date.so i quickly change to winmo then to android.after that i couldnt get my phone back all day:) so definitely sd version for me.it gives me more power over the WP7 and HTC DESIRE HD or any other android phones.dual boot capability is very cool.
[HD2 General] romka.t:
Tested nand Android, didn't really see any real advantages vs SD (well maybe a bit less power consumption), instead - for now some issues, regarding space, have to mess with apps installing in main memory, so moved back to good old WM 6.5 kwbr. Besides [RAM] Android is much smoother. Also I really like the WM sense.
[HD2 General] shubh.27hd2:
Android far better... nand rocks
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
i am curious though, what is it about Android on NAND that is so much better than SD, bar boot speeds i dont see anything, you seem to have a strong opinion that NAND is better so im curious as to what you judge that by?

also, as it currently stands, if you install Android on NAND thats you, you cant then have WM or possibly WP7 if thats what you like. If i leave WM on NAND i can install android on SD and have the best of both worlds, im really liking the idea that i can upgrade either my WM ROM or the android image and yet both will remain completly functional so long as my SD card doesnt pack in, but then thats why i make backups of those
[HD2 General] cergun:
It depends on your needs.

My wife has an iphone and I am using WinMo + Darkstone Ram edition

If you need to use it for business WinMo has the native sync with outlook, I also use Call Recorder and IGO navigation. I may give up using IGO but not the call recording and certainly not syncing with outlook. So for that WinMo

Android with Darkstone, it is unbelievably fast and keyboard/touch performance is much better than winmo, it is as good as iphone I believe (that is the only think I like with iphone). But what really missing is free and dependable syncing with outlook. There are some solutions tough, but not a complete free solution. I am keeping it just for fun. And I am using it for a 5 days or so. I also did not come across to a decent free call recorder. Those are forcing me to keep winMo

For the office documents and editing I haven't tried it yet. So I cannot comment on that.
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
im not sure if that was directed at me or not, if so then you missed my point, im not talking about differences between android and WM im talking about whats the differences between Android running off SD and android off NAND

So my question is, why is it you would want to get android on NAND and remove any possibilty for using WM, dispite the beating it gets ts actually very good for work an what not, so i was asking the chap above why does Android on NAND "rock"
[HD2 General] Archer:
I'll explain my preference for NAND, which may help.

Realistically, unless you've been using Android on SD for a while, as your main (if not only) OS, NAND probably doesn't seem worth it. For me, the reason I prefer running from NAND over running from SD is that

all

the little problems that Android previously had have now disappeared. Most of them are minor things, like pressing the power button sometimes didn't wake the phone. If it did, it usually took a second or two. Also, when in a call, the proximity sensor would work and turn the screen off correctly, but then it may not turn back on again for 5-10 seconds when you took it away from your face, which is useless if you're trying to get to your keypad in a call. Also, the main culprit.... battery life. I know there are people for whom this is different, but the majority of NAND Android users will agree that battery life is far superior to when running from an SD card. I'd say my battery life has increased by about 50% (and I now have wifi on all the time, which I didn't before!)

Also, I find Android on NAND runs faster and smoother than regular SD builds (I only briefly used a RAM build, so can't comment on that.)

So basically, Android on NAND is Android on SD, but on steroids, and with everything fixed (for most people). And why not keep Windows and just keep running it off the SD? Simple. I've not used Windows for over 3 months now. I obviously don't need it any more. The advantages of NAND certainly make it a worthwhile switch for me and many others.

That's just my experience. It's obviously different for everyone and to suggest a "best setup" or "best way to do things" would just be silly.

Edit:

Just remembered 2 other things, 1 minor and 1 pretty important to me. Firstly, the "keep backlight on when charging" option now actually works (didn't with SD builds - ever), and I can use DDMS to browse the device, which also never worked with SD builds, but is a big deal.
[HD2 General] qzmufu:
Android cuz of

1. Browser

2. Free Navigation

3. Railnavigator - A German public transportation App

4. It being more convenient / less annoying (Podcasts crapped up my mediaplayer in WM, Couldn't call numbers from Maps in WM, Sense crapped up my exchange contacts' notes ...)

NAND cuz it's the only Android build for the HD2 with acceptable battery life.
[HD2 General] 2happy:
interesting and also very tempting.i have been up all night so i went through all the threads regarding hd2 android.I even looked at the debate posted by ambious asking what is the bigger deal with NAND,then himself went and flash the rom.i still think NAND is in very early stages.after what you wrote with battery life and the rest i must admit i am very tempted.so if you dont mind sharing the NAND build that you have used,i would like to have a go:)
[HD2 General] Archer:
No worries mate. I started with the stock DFT one, but quickly switched to a Desire HD one, because I was previously using a DHD build and really liked it. However, on an EU HD2, I started out with 24MB of free space. That went up to 40MB after moving everything that would move to the SD card, so I gave up with that build and decided on a non-Sense one instead.

I'm now using a Nexus One ROM that you can get here...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=895059

Since I use Launcher Pro, there really is no need for me to use a Sense build anyway!

Hope you have as much fun with it as I do ;)
[HD2 General] 2happy:
much appreciated with your help:) i get on with it now.
[HD2 General] wigwam12:
When I used to compare my (stock) HD2 with my wife's desire there were certain Android features I envied:

multipages, excellent Apps, being able to see multiple Gmail calendars.

Having now compared the Desire build on my phone vs WinMo with CHT and the Glass theme I find myself increasingly booting into Android just to see what it is I am not getting vs everyone.

On my WinMo homescreen I have a stunning looking tranparent clock with an a silver analog clock next to it.

I have the weather sense thingy in the clock

Under this I have my alarm time, the date, 2 appts

under this I have a row of 5 quicklinks

Under this I have the slider to easily access all the other things (email/internet etc) that I want.

Compared to this the homescreen in Android looks clunky and wasting the realestate of the HD2:

A huge clock with the weather.

The Sense Calendar app can only display 1 appt on it;

I cannot place any widgets under this on the home screen above the 4 icons for email/sms/camera/(i forget the 4th!)

It also EATS the battery

I do still like the Android marketplace and the excellent games

I still like the ability to see all the calendar entries [albeit devoted to its own screen]

and of course google satnav.

I am sure I am not versed in how to set up Android to look how I like but for me the WinMo homescreen (with CHT2) blows Android away
[HD2 General] Kiril1001:
That was exactly my point too. I've been using Hotmail for years and my business is depending on my constant being in touch. Android mail client can't sync Outlook and also does not sync other folders in Hotmail , than Inbox. When I have to copy and paste a microsoft word document, it's impossible, because you just don't have the office pack for Android. You only can have a document, saved in memory or cd, but cannot edit it. And in Win Mobile you can and it's very important to me.

The stock browser in Android is good and support of flash is great, but then it fails with Hotmail page rendering, so you can't use Hotmail even throgh the browser. Another disadvantage of Android is thah even Adobe flash is installed, no other Android browser supports flash, except the stock 2.2 one. You don't have flash neither with Dolphin, Opera Mobile 10.1, xScope 6, or Fennec. You have flash only with stock 2.2 browser and Skyfire. But then I have flash with skyfire on Win Mobile as well, so flash for me is not a great advantage over Win Mobile.

For now I'll stick to Win Mobile, and am hopeful to have a WP7 port soon.
[HD2 General] will9895:
Energy ROM

Coming off an HTC Vox anything was going to seem new and shiny, but I've now tried the cooked roms, sd android and Ubuntu on my HD2 and played on a few iPhones. Looking forward to giving Meego a try as well. What I can't deny is that winmo had had me frustrated. Lots. Thing is, once you've waited ages for all your email to be scanned and the recent ones downloaded in activesync (as opposed to android's slick email download) the information is just there. For me it really is as simple as that, nothing can rival how with CHT2 and Sense one swipe will let me see everything. emails, texts weather+ music widgets then all the Sense tabs. Gingerbread's task manager is a massive boost to android but it still can't compete for me. I'd love the Market yes, but I've got apps for all I need, and the only sore point is that fantastic iplayer google's browser offers. I'd like to try wp7 too, but it seems to me it is no less app centric than iOS and Android.

I tell you what though: I'd love a bit of WebOS porting!
[HD2 General] 2happy:
i use to love my home screen on winmo .until i saw this thread with interesting home screens....http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=743301
[HD2 General] splinters69:
Used stock 3.14 rom for a while...crashed a lot. Tried a few cooked roms and ended up with Dutty's family rom.

Moved to the Nandroid 'stock' and too many niggles...liked the Nexus one ROM.

BUT...went back to Duttys Rom V14. Amazing battery life. Charged it yesterday evening; data, 3G, Wi-fi all on....still got 65% left tonight.

Not crashed or failed on me once and I have instant sync to Outlook contacts and calendar..

LOVE IT.
[HD2 General] hari911:
Installed android nand 2 days ago.. and it works great for me...
[HD2 General] jaidedfocus:
I had WinMo for all of a week before I started having issues. I figured I'd give it time to grow instead of just sending it back and there weren't any Android devices I wanted on T-Mo at the time. Well about 15 hard resets later within 3 months, I was done but the awesome guys on XDA were already releasing Android builds on SD that were working so I figured I'd try it out. Man was I happy!

Needless to say, since July or August I've had an Android build on my phone in one form or another and I'm glad I decided to experiment with my phone. Now I'm running Nand and not looking back!
[HD2 General] dennis-:
android nand by a long shot. winmo is going nowhere. everything in the market cost money. the only free stuff is useless. omarket is neat and all but still not much useful apps. android has a app for almost every need. if it dont give it a week im sure one of the thousands of apps poping up weekly will. android is open source thats a win win all in its own.
[HD2 General] wearefree:
Despite HTC's great effort of putting sense to mask WM6.5 on HD2, WM6.5 is just no match for android for users like me who relies so much on google's services: gmail, google calendar, google voice...

Besides, all the cool websites have an android app (I'm sure they do the same for iphone) but none for WM. Skyfire has ditched WM officially, and uZard is just a mess. What if I need to see flash content? IE with flash lite is my best bet, sadly.

Also most websites have a mobile version geared towards iphone or android browser that WM users can't even access. I tricked this by replacing the user agent of Opera Mobile. However since Opera Mobile is not webkit web browser lots of those websites don't display correctly.

Granted I will miss a few of my favorite apps but I'm sure I can find android counterparts - through time. Same process as I first started using WM 3 years ago. When WM and android and compared side by side, android IS the future.
[HD2 General] CharlesG70:
Android

I have been playing around with all the options for a while and have ended up with WP7 in NAND, and Android (MDJ CM7) on SD.

I have a problem with my backlight when running any WinMO or WP7 OS's so have settled on Android.

I do really like both 6.5 and WP7 but find that Anrdoid does such a better job at handeling multiple e-mail accounts and my multiple gmail calendars that I have no choice but to go with the droid. :cool:

Really the android does so much more that there really was never much of a compitition.:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] replytojain:
Hello All,

I am having a Motoroal XT5 (502) with an Android version of 2.1-Update 1, Build number 2_25D_1004.

I am looking to upgrade to Android 2.2/2.3 for obvious reasons.

I have already rooted my phone with z4root. Can any one help me upgrade with a detailed step and links of download (ROM, APKs, etc.)

Desperately looking for some help with the expertise of people here!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] 2black0:
goto boston-mania.blogspot.com
[Galaxy Tab General] mariotenuta:
Hi everyone,

Does anyone know where I can download the Bell original for firmware for my Tab?
[Galaxy Tab General] seven2099:
There is currently no available image of your stock bell firmware for the tab.

I know this as I have two of them :)

Are you having any issues? (as in, why do you want to flash back to stock)
[Galaxy Tab General] mariotenuta:
I am having a hard time rooting. I am using jm6 and currently I cannot flash with Z4root or super one click
[Galaxy Tab General] mariotenuta:
I mean root not flash
[Galaxy Tab General] ry2887:
I am looking for this as well.

Essentially I want to start from total factory reset/from the total beginning.

The problem is the hard reset, is not very hard at all. Wether from the system settings or the recovery menu it doesn't seem to do a TRUE format of the device. There are a lot reminants of previous programs and files... Including the root. My problem is that I want Kies to recognize the damned device.
[Off-topic] the_scotsman:
Happy New Year Guys!!!

We're now in 2011 down under!!!

Hope You all have a great night and all the best for 2011!!! :cool::):p;):D
[Off-topic] husam666:
happy new ear :p

our new year is in 8 hours :D

First :p
[Off-topic] Purple Drama Llama:
I still have entire the day left until 2011 :cool:
[Off-topic] altae:
6 hours left to go in Switzerland
[Off-topic] husam666:
we are on the same time zone :)

did you buy a new ear? :p
[Off-topic] altae:
I got myself two of em since the local store is offering a discount. You get two for one.
[Off-topic] CRACING:
Wish you all a happy new year [2] [0] [1] [1]. :D

May god bring your big light in your life's.

And wishing to get wp7 on HD2 soon. :p
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!! :D

Enjoy your last hours everyone....... Teamllama will own the world next year :p;):D
[Off-topic] T.C.P:
Lol happy new year even though I still got 15 hours
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
I got 6 more... but eh :D
[Off-topic] whiskeybro:
Happy New Year .....to all of you !!!!!!

5 hours left :)
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
Gracias mi amigo :p:D;)
[Off-topic] T.C.P:
Ahh shucks thank you :D
[Off-topic] !PANDA:
Same, and all my friends fu***d me over, and now, I've got nowhere to go! :(
[Off-topic] Mr. Clown:
Happy New Year! Best wishes for 2011. Still 12 hours to go here:

Cheers, many blessings!.
[Off-topic] Enspade:
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[Off-topic] Captainkrtek:
Meh, 9 hours here in seattle
[Off-topic] aegentirony:
California here....Still at work! Bogus!

Happy New years XDA!
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
1 hour and a half here :D
[Off-topic] husam666:
its 2011 and 49minutes here
[Off-topic] altusanimus:
6 hours and 1 minute :D
[Off-topic] flyboyovyick:
happy new year from the uk!!!
[Off-topic] Owendavies:
Ditto. Hope its a good year for everyone and XDA. Thanks for all your help.

Owen.
[Off-topic] klassasin:
Happy new years! Thanks to all of the dev's for their great work!

Sent from my Droid
[Off-topic] galaxys:
Happy New Year all XDA members! And may 2011 be rocken and flashen!!
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
Like I put in the other thread :rolleyes: Legend^ :p;):D
[Off-topic] :
Happy New Year!!!!!

(In 3 hours and 27min)
[Off-topic] kurt-willems:
Happy New Year from Belgium.
[Off-topic] simax:
a happy new year to all them great devs, consumers and everybody else who keep this great site running!!!
[Off-topic] Vuska:
HAPPY NEW YEAR Everyone... :)
[Off-topic] Purple Drama Llama:
10 minutes for me :D
[Off-topic] chroniX:
Happy new years everyone!!
[Off-topic] avgjoegeek:
Yup hny to you all
[Off-topic] orb3000:
Feliz Año 2011!! for you all!!!!!
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
Gracias Mi amigo :p

Happy new year too! :):D
[Off-topic] Omnichron:
Happy New Year XDA! Thank you for all your help!:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] .:Cryingman:.:
hey guys

i have a hd2 ...

iwas installing the Original rom to my phone from memorie card then suddenly i dont know how ! it just jemped back to white greeen red screen then i reinstall the battery it give me soem errors abt the softwer updater failed

but when i try again it go till 1% an then phone restarts

guys i need help

i already tried task 29 .... but it didnt worked either ... :( i mean itc ant flash my phone stuck at 0% ...

help me guys plz

ty every one
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silverwind:
to flash original stock rom, firstly you have to get the correct stock rom.

once you get the correct stock rom, you have to extract it using 7zip or winrar.

once you extracted the stock rom, you have to find the file name: ruu_signed.nbh

rename that file to: leoimg.nbh

note: nbh is an extension for image file containing the rom.

copy the file: leoimg.nbh to a micro sd card which previously formated to fat32.

the file must be put in root of micro sdcard.

now turn off your phone and insert the card.

press volume down button and press the power on button. hold it until the four color screen (bootloader) screen appear. now, you follow the instruction on the screen..

good luck....