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[Wildfire Android Development] grognaz:
just did a clean install and checked the free space... i got 165mb without any apps installed. how can you have the same amount with 100apps installed? somethings fishy here o_O
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
trust me... it is like save to SD, but dont press save to sd.. 100apps + 20games which is 10-20mb+

165mb left... > without anything

130mb left... > with everything install...

110mb left... > with HTC Sense facebook + Plurk + twitter sync.
[Wildfire Android Development] grognaz:
i will do some more testing... i already had a ext partition so all i had to do was this:

1. wipe/factory reset
2. install ROM
3. start system
4. reboot

and then i have the 165mb of space.

also when there is no ext partition the steps can be reduced to this:

1. backup (nandroid + titanium)
2. backup SD to PC
3. copy ROM to SD
4. wipe/factory reset
5. install ROM from SD
6. reboot and start wildpuzzle
7. partition SD (ext3 512, swap 0/32mb)
8. wipe/factory reset
9. install ROM again
10. start system
11. reboot

maybe you can split the instructions for existing and non existing ext partition.

i will do some more testing with restoring my settings and apps so maybe you can add some details fro that as well if it works out
[Wildfire Android Development] coolsamshil9:
I still get the triangle with exclamation mark with all the Roms.

Just to clarify whne i insatll the rom , and thn whn i look in titanium backup ther are already 3 parts ( internal memory+external memory +apps2sd). So does that implies that i already have a partition?

I followed your steps and just want to clarify do we need to unistall dalvik chae as well by going in recovery mode> andvanced> wipe dalvik cahe.

or just going to recovery mode than press wipe cahe partition and than says wipe data/factory rest. help me i m wrong.
[Wildfire Android Development] :
Yes, I mean internal memory is faster and more robust. I will do more ground work to understand the internal memory from durability perspective.
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
factory reset
[Wildfire Android Development] CryptKilla:
I used this one: 0001_WildPuzzleROM_v0.6.zip
[Wildfire Android Development] grognaz:
well it took a bit longer but i could sucessfully restore all my apps and settings and still have about 130MB left on the phone:D

here is what i did (note this is with a already existing ext partition):

1. titanium backup (Backup all user apps + system data)

2. reboot to recovery

3. wipe/factory reset

4. install newest wildpuzzle rom

5. start system

6. reboot (this will free the phone and i ended up with 165mb)

7. titanium restore (Restore missing apps + all system data) this will take some time since you have to confirm every app

8. reboot (this again will free some space and will make your settings work)
[Wildfire Android Development] tdorduncu:
sd card reading problem . please help.

I tried make prtition with rom manager several times. Now my wildfire cannot read sd cards. I can read, format sd card on windows pc. I can copy files on it but I cannot see files in clockworkmod recovery on wildfire. Please help. My wildfire stucked!!!!!!!
[Wildfire Android Development] dikamilo:
What do you mean cannot see files in recovery ? If you want show files from sdcard in recovery (connect to pc), you must mount storage in partition menu.

So, if ROM Manager can't make partitions, show triangle or something. try to flash recovery again from rom manager (first option).
[Wildfire Android Development] grognaz:
i had the same problem, i think i had to reboot when i copied files in recovery mode to see them.
[Wildfire Android Development] tdorduncu:
OK. situation is this:

I have two sd cards. Both are working condition.I can read - write , format .... on pc. I also can use with es file explorer also I can see files with rom manager. But in recovery I cant see any files so I cant install rom or I cant restore nandroid backup.
[Wildfire Android Development] erin2006erin:
anyone wanna help me out, i did as said here, and all goes fine, istall all the apps then then reboot, but the apps dont move, my memory stays at 20mb and it reboots in 1 minute not ten as specified???
[Wildfire Android Development] tdorduncu:
I tried flash recovery an everything. It doesnt work. My primary problem is not partitioning sd card right now. My problem is like this:

1. I put ROM file ( 0001_WildPuzzleROM_v0.7.zip) to sd card on pc.

2. Mount sd card to wilfire.

3. reboot in recovey.

4. choose "install zip from sd"

and I see nothing! its like no files on sd card.

but , in recovery I can make nandroid backup and restore it.

When I put back sd card to pc I cannot see this backup directory.

PLEASE HELP!
[Wildfire Android Development] TOMs987:
I connect with usb wildfire and I went into recovery ... I found a triangle with an exclamation point ... What Next?

Please help...

Sorry for my bad english!
[Wildfire Android Development] 3xeno:
Are you rooted?
[Wildfire Android Development] TOMs987:
I have made the Android 2.2 to the reason for errors??
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
sorry guys, just back from school.

sorry for delay. my school started at january.

I will help u to solve your problem daily if it is possible.

If you're urgent, try send me a mail and i will reply u ASAP when it is delivered to my phone.
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
it will in phone memory, but half of the apps is already in ext (sd card).

move to sd is not required
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
rom manager only can view folder, and inside the files it can view is ONLY ZIP FILE

example: u have a zip file named abc.zip

in clockworkmod it only view abc.zip

if you have other than zip, it won't show and only show the folder's name.

p.s u need the WHOLE clockworkmod folder in SD card, u cannot move the backup out of clockworkmod.

means when u open clockworkmod, u can see backup, after backup, then it is date of backup and the files in zip.

BACKUP CANNOT BE VIEWED WITHOUT CLOCKWORKMOD FOLDER IN SD CARD
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
you must put your zip file without a folder, means when u click sd card in computer, the next thing u can see is the zip file. (not the zip file in a folder)
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
first, after u partition, the sd card is clean > you need to recopy the files if u have the problem

2nd, can u see the files in es file explorer?

3rd, i think this is your sd card problem, try to lend one from your friend.
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
do u do a ext partition? and the files doesnt move to sd.. it stay in phone.. but it reduce the size of the apps.

and when u finish partitioning and reinstall, is that 165mb?
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
try to repartition.
[Wildfire Android Development] ledpepper:
Disk mode works

Thanks for the guide melvinchng.

I confirm that this guide works. You can use adb to get passed the "taking the SD card out and using a card reader" steps.

Oh and Disk Drive mode works fine. I couldn't understand why it wouldn't so it was the very first thing I tried. Mine works perfectly.
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
sometime it will mass up your system and become 98mb.. so to be save, don't take it out
[Wildfire Android Development] pyroblazer:
apps showing in the "manage application" bt not in the app drawer

Im using the wild puzzle rom v0.7 and im having this prob.... i posted it twice in the thread bt no one replied to that...

ok i did the entire procedure stated by danne_jo... got my 160 mb free... then installed all the apps required by me(installed apps using iAPK 0.3) and rebooted the phone... now only 3 out of 60 apps(those 60 apps that i had installed) are shown in the apps drawer... and under the "manage applications" it shows all the apps bt as 0 kb in size

also the internal memory went from 160 to 105 after the reboot

so after that i reinstalled all the apps and now the internal memory is only 70 MB

i dont understand???

what should i do??
[Wildfire Android Development] ledpepper:
Now that you have reinstalled the 60 apps are they available to use? Can you see them? Could it be that you are down to 70mb's BECAUSE of the 60 apps installed?
[Wildfire Android Development] pyroblazer:
yes now i can see those apps... well im redoing the whole process again... right now..... and now i've reached the stage where i should install the apps
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
The best things is you try to backup all apps in apk files, and it will be fine. Good luck
[Wildfire Android Development] ledpepper:
pyroblazer,

I followed melvinchng's instructions and got my 165mb's free. I then did a nandroid backup. Afterwards I installed a few apps and moved them to the SDcard manually. I repeated this process of backing up, installing and then moving until I was happy with the setup.

Regardless of how you do it simply nandroid backup at every stage you are happy. If something goes wrong you won't have far to rollback and start again.

Good luck
[Wildfire Android Development] Zeiin:
Is there any way to do this without a card reader pls ?
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
Card reader doesn't cost much. Not can lend it from friend
[Wildfire Android Development] ledpepper:
You can use adb:

Reboot into Recovery

Mount your sdcard under "Partition Menu"

Open Windows Command Shell if in Windows

Change working path to directory where adb is located (Usually /android-sdk/tools/)

type adb push "<path to rom>\wildpuzzle.zip" /sdcard

Voila, you can now push files to your sdcard using your usb cable and android-sdk's adb.

Update: Here is a page with some practical usage for adb: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=714237
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
But how can he copy files from computer to sd without cardreader?
[Wildfire Android Development] TweetyPeety:
worked so beautiful, thanks
[Wildfire Android Development] kevin2516:
Mounting the sd card is fine I do it all the time lol. The computer detects your fat32 partition, not your ext partition, but if you guys are scared, then I guess you guys should use a card reader or adb.
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
Now I get wat you mean.. btw, I'm really the scare one
[Wildfire Android Development] Marc.:
I wanna try this on my Wildfire, but I wanna know first know how I can undo this... Can you make steps to undo this?

I found a few links, but I don't know if that's possible with the system data on the SD card...

http://www.ehow.com/how_5024605_delete-flash-card-partition.html

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=25493

http://www.droid-eris.com/tutorials-corner/(tutorial)-partition-sd-card-for-a2sd/

So please look for me into this... ( And maybe try yourself first... )
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
Go Menu > SD & Phone Storage > Unmount SD > Format SD card. DONE! =]

P.S (EXT and all files in SD will be DELETED!!!!!)

DONT TRY TO FORMAT!

If you want to get back or change ext partition, backup your phone first and copy whole sd to computer.

2nd, format sd

3rd, create partition

4th, copy file from pc to sd

5th, go recovery, restore the backup that u did just now

6th, done
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
1 minutes, solved XD
[Wildfire Android Development] Marc.:
Does anything then still work? And will be the EXT will be deleted? ( So I've got the whole 2GB in fat32? ) (I've got a 2GB card is that enough? )
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
i added something, see previous post
[Wildfire Android Development] Marc.:
I don't mean that...

If I follow your instructions from the first page, get 160 MB free on my phone... And then I want to undo this everything, so delete the partition and have all the files back on my phone. How to do this?

And first you say format and then don't format...
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
Now u need dont need ext right? Can u tell me what are you thinking? Maybe i will help u to figure out

your phone will be messed up if you format your sd.
[Wildfire Android Development] Marc.:
If I follow your instructions.

Then I want to remove the partition and have my phone working without SD card.... How to do that?
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
Without SD means no ext and 160mb in the future (about 95mb left). You want this?
[Wildfire Android Development] Marc.:
I just mean to delete the ext partition... ( And then I must have a normal SD card again... )

And when that is deleted my phone has to run on his own, without SD card...

How can I do that?

EDIT:

I think your last post is what I mean...

But then that after doing your first post... Just have after the 165 MB free, then just have the normal ROM without ext, ( delete the ext )
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
Make a backup(make sure no apps moved to SD), copy SD to pc,

Unmount SD, format,

Copy SD from pc,

Recovery, restore the backup.

Done
[Wildfire Android Development] Marc.:
Then restoring from backup without SD card?
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
Just restore, you don't have partition. So partition won't be restored.

**edit: your backup is in SD,you can't restore without SD
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
Almost 1am here, I'll reply you ASAP when I get up from bed. Probably 8 or 9 hours later
[Wildfire Android Development] kltj:
pls help

i hv try wipe/factory reset and install wildpuzzle rom few time but after reboot , only got 80+mb only :confused:

sorry , my poor english .
[Wildfire Android Development] Marc.:
I followed the instructions on the first page, and I've got 164 MB left! :) So 0.7 gives 164 MB free...

Edit:

I've tried it too! And it does work! So you can remove the warning at the first page, i think.
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
YOu need partition
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
I will edit that
[Wildfire Android Development] kltj:
i hv partition the sd card but still got 80+mb only :confused:
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
Full wipe only give 160
[Wildfire Android Development] pyroblazer:
ok i know its a silly question bt is there a possibilty that this will work on other roms??
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
If other Rom support ex cache, then it will work
[Wildfire Android Development] mcfar45:
This will work on CM 6.1
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
Work on any Rom that supported ext cache
[Wildfire Android Development] :
I've tried some Custom Roms. Now with this release of Wildpuzzle i'm back. But now i can't partition my SDCARD. I tried severel times but it doesn't work. Is there a problem with the new wildpuzzle?
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
See my guide, I listed there solution
[Wildfire Android Development] :
But I think I have done every step of the guide. The first time I installed the Wildpuzzle from December it works fine.

I have tried 10+ times to partition the SDCARD. I have downloaded the last ROM MANAGER 3.0.0.7.

My english isnt't very good, but I think I have done every step. But one thing I have forgotten to post here. Before I have flashed the last Wildpuzzle, I have taken out the 2gb SDCARD and have taken in new 8gb SDCARD.

Wich point of the guide could help me?

THX, Chriss
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
Redo again the guide or start from partition
[Wildfire Android Development] Marc.:
I've got now a new SD ( 8gb ) card. And used this guide on a 2gb sd card. But now I want to set everything on my new SD card.

What are the steps to do this? Just partition SD card ( 8gb ) using the phone, and place backup back?

I want it in clearly steps, otherwise i won't get it... :(

Even the steps: 13. Put in your new SD card ( for example )

Please help me!
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
DaddySpud will make a guide how To partition with a software in window. Just be patient. Will be out by this week
[Wildfire Android Development] daddyspud:
Yh but I have no idea how to get ur apps from ur ext 3 soz only telling u how to make a bigger ext 3
[Wildfire Android Development] Marc.:
I think I know the steps already, can you check them? So i'm not doing anything wrong.

1. make a nandroid backup ( with old SD )

2. power off phone fully

3. take out SD card, copy the backup to new SD card ( 8gb )

4. Go direct in recovery! ( with new SD inserted )

5. place nandroid backup back ( it cant place any files on ext, because that isn't on that one yet. )

6. reboot phone

7. Go into ROM mananger and partition SD card

8. Go into recovery and place nandroid backup again back ( now with files to ext )

9. reboot phone, and connect it to computer to place music on it

Am I right?
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
YOur system will have no apps without cache. Only a few apps.
[Wildfire Android Development] Marc.:
Tried these steps, but I can't get to partition the new SD card... I'm stuck there.
[Wildfire Android Development] daddyspud:
If your try to create your own partition look this link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=928853 create ur own ext 3 n swap 2

I'm just uploading video will b half hour n u shud have no problem creating ur ext 3 n swap 2 move ur apps n cache to sd for more internal space hope this helps
[Wildfire Android Development] Marc.:
Got it working right now! Here's what ive done:

1st, You need a wildpuzzle rom 2.2.1 (V0.6 gives 165mb, v0.7 160mb, v0.8 102mb[without cache move to ext]) Wildpuzzle rom 2.2.1 download page

2nd, Make sure that you BACKUP your SD card (copy whole SD card to computer).

3rd, Move wildpuzzle rom 2.2.1 that you have already downloaded to the SD card (DONT delete the copy in computer).

4th, You need to WIPE ALL THE DATA (wipe/factory reset) in your wildfire and make sure that you have already made a backup of your rom before wiping.

5th, Make sure that you backup your SD card with your BACKUP (backup-ed rom).

6th, Run in recovery mode and select wipe/factory reset the data.

7th, Choose install zip from SD and install your wildpuzzle rom 2.2.1.

8th, After your rom has successfully copied to the system (phone), reboot your phone and wait for a few minutes. (it may take up to 10minutes)

9th, Now simply set up your data (you may ignore them, you don't need it).

10th, Go in to the rom manager, and choose partition SD. Default is ok. (I use 512mb, swap 0mb)

11th, Now your SD card will be wiped and will be partitioned.

12th, Now shut down your phone (take the battery out).

Now my own steps ( I've done these after that one above )

13th, place backup of whole phone ( clockworkmod folder ) back on SD

14th, go into recovery and place nandroid backup back

15th, finished! :)

And it does work! :)
[Wildfire Android Development] topjor:
I want to do this all at the end of the week when I get my 8GB sd card, I'm going to install 0001_WildPuzzleROM_v0.8.zip.

If I want al that free space do I have to move the cache to sd

if yes, tel me how, I don't understand the code thats standing on the first post, are that the shell commands??
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
Now you go download 0.6, put in 8gb sd. Install in phone. Restart and you will get 165mb. Then take 0.8 stack on 0.6 that means press install zip from SD without wiping. And you will have 0.8 with 165mb.
[Wildfire Android Development] topjor:
ok I will do that

in 2 or 3 days I have my 8gb sd here

so I'm installing it right after I have my new sd

thanks a lot
[Wildfire Android Development] topjor:
just checked the update script and saw that the only difference was that de old one (v0.6) has a line that would run an script witch moves the cache to sd

can I also change the update script and add those 2 things and install v0.8 with that in one time (and just folow the tut als normal but only with the edited zip file)??
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
sorry there, i am not so sure... yea.. i know.. only a little difference...

you may try it...
[Wildfire Android Development] topjor:
ok gonna try it

if I have done it I will post reply with details

so in 2 or 3 days you will hear from me if its working

can't wait till I got my 8GB sd card
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
8gb is too little for me.. I hope I got 32..
[Wildfire Android Development] topjor:
for me its fine but if it was 1 or 2 gb less it would also to little for me

I was a long time thinking 8gb or 16gb

but becouse i dont use it that lot with things its fine for me to have 8gb
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
I have 5gb left on my 16g
[Wildfire Android Development] topjor:
at this time i have the orginal 2gb sd in my phone witch came with it, and have im most of the case 600 mb free but i just dont put anything on it becouse of the free space is so little (want to keep 400 mb free for nandroids)

cant wait till i have that sd card
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
My backup is 1gb lol..
[Wildfire Android Development] topjor:
Ok have my 8gb sd card, after step 16 my free space was 166mb (no other apps installed yet)

after installing apps 144mb free and after rebooting 146mb (rebooted as normal(didn't take as long as it had to take to copy apps to sd(cache))

i will edit this message after installed apps en report free space then

so yes it worked
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
Thanks for sharing
[Wildfire Android Development] topjor:
second reboot still not working, stil 146mb free shall I try to move the cache again or reset it what do you suggest what command I use??

(sorry for my bad Engelish sometimes)
[Wildfire Android Development] topjor:
i have entered the shel via adb and gave command a2sd cachesd and when it rebooted it took some more time but is still not working
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
Check previous post. Solution are given there. I'm not sure on adb.
[Wildfire Android Development] philipchou:
Sorry to ask you a question(and my bad english),

Does it works on CM7?
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
YEs, it work. But

You need a partition and a code. Code can be found in rc1 post.

If I'm not mistaken, type this

su

a2sd cachesd

In terminal emulator. Search rc1 post if it the code is not working.
[Wildfire Android Development] humat:
i try this all unfortunately i get 105 mb :(
[Wildfire Android Development] pramodahanya:
please someone help me on removing flashed applications.
[Wildfire Android Development] 3xeno:
What exactly you mean by 'flashed applications'? Examples?
[Wildfire Android Development] pramodahanya:
Thanks for the reply I have flashes gapps gb but I need to flash gapps mdpi

Just reflashing. Melissa worked
[Wildfire Android Development] mv0hra:
Can the partitioning of the SD card be achieved directly from the Recovery Mode, by going through the options, Advanced - Partition SD Card - 512M - 0M rather than through ROM Manager.

The reason I ask is because I get the Exclamation mark issue and I have tried the options on the first page but still having no luck. I was able to achieve this the first time, but after messing around a bit I thought I try it again but it will not work. However it seems fine if I manually do it through the Recovery stage.

By the way I am using the following ROM - CyanogenMod-7.1 for Wildfire :: (V7.1-RC1).

Will I be able to achieve this memory gain?
[Wildfire Android Development] melvinchng:
You can make a partition in rom manager.

Yeah, flash the data 2 SD zip,

Go terminal emulator,

Type:

a2sd cacheSD <<<< to move cache to SD

A2sd data2sd <<<< to move entire SD to SD. [Not recommend]
[Wildfire Android Development] mv0hra:
Thanks for the response.

It will not make a partition in ROM Manager, basically it restarts into recovery with an exclamation mark.

Terminal emulator says a2sd: not found. Also, at what stage would i need to do this?
[Wildfire Android Development] mv0hra:
I am not sure why, but somehow the ROM Manager aspect has worked.

Terminal emulator still says a2sd: not found

I do not have the 160MB space, I have something like 137MB, but maybe that has to do something with the ROM I am using, would that be right? I have yet to install all the software.

EDIT: just installed the software and it all stored on the phone. Not sure what to do as I installed as per instructions. The only difference is the Rom.