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[myTouch 4G General] gabrialxue:
Theres the thing though, I got this phone from craigslist, I am not eligible for a warranty replacement. I can send it into HTC for a free repair but all they would do is replace it with the exact same screen and send it back.
[myTouch 4G General] shlongwoodian:
Man, I might get moderated for this but, get an iPhone. ;)

Seriously though, which is it? Performance? Resale value? User experience? Development/customization? I think the last handful of replies have provided you with a lot of data. You now know the MT4G is a superior device in virtually all ways, on paper. I'm not sure if you just want one of us to say, "yes, trade it, get the G2" or "no, keep it, stick with the MT4G."

It seems like each option, you have a "but" for. If you keep the MT4G, you have issues with warranty/replacement and "resale value," as you put it. If you go with the G2, you get lose hinge issues, a "slower" phone (you'll be able to root it too though, so sort of a moot point), but all of the retail packaging.

I'm just not sure this thread can really go any further, know what I mean? I hope I've done my part to help here and I hope you end up with the phone you like best! Either way, you're on Android and I think that is a good thing.

Good luck!

*Time to unsubscribe from this thread.
[myTouch 4G General] bobsbbq:
Your wrong, as I have said I know of several people who bought from craigslist and ebay and still got warranty replacements from T-Mobile. You just have to know how to do it.

With a HTC warranty your right you would have to send it in but I would bet you would probably get a new device. Or at the very least a new screen with the good

LCD. HTC as admitted the LCD problem even though T-Mobile has not. So I doubt if you sent it in to HTC for a washed out display you would get a bad screen.
[myTouch 4G General] gabrialxue:
Well how would I get a T-mobile replacement without proof of purchase

Also how would I do it for HTC?
[myTouch 4G General] clamder:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-mytouch-4g#tech-specs

pretty sure this phone has 768MB of RAM. can't really create a combination of RAM sticks to create 786MB...
[myTouch 4G General] shlongwoodian:
I know, I'm typing away here in fervor and I'm out and about, not at home. I stopped and was like, "ummm, 128, 256, 512, 768..." but I again, I'm out and about. I figured I had gotten my head so foggy from defending the MT4G, I didn't stop to pay attention.

I should trust myself more and not question it. I should also focus on only doing one thing at a time. :)
[myTouch 4G General] bobsbbq:
You don't need it with T-Mobile, just need your IMEI number in their system. As I said it can be done. PM me later today.
[myTouch 4G General] xdviper:
I've had the G2 since release and I just recently got the MyTouch last friday. From what I experienced, the G2 has better build quality and is meta and doesn't get scratches easy. The screen is bright and beautiful on it, and it doesn't have the "washed screen" that the MyTouch suffers from. It is heavier, but the battery life on the G2 is amazing! I would get 2 days with moderate use, but my moderate usage will vary from yours, but again with Cyanogen Rom installed on it, it gets great battery life.

Don't let the 800mhz fool you, we overclocked our phones to 1.7ghz, and got some really sick quadrant numbers. The phone runs smooth rooted, or not rooted. The G2 also see's more dev's porting and making roms for it, it has a HUGE dev's behind it, and get's updates and new features added quick.

The hinge might be a problem for you, but it's steady enough where it WON'T break on you, even though many people say it will, it's strong enough where it can stand 2 years of usage. Loose hinges and tight hinges, they all wear down over time and the only thing you can do is, open the phone up and change the spring inside, there is DIY guide on the general section of the forums.

Other than all, you get capacitive buttons, so no creaky buttons like on the MyTouch, and the phone just feels solid.

Again though, there is discoloration (at least I only had it near the keyboard) but that's all, if you buy a zagg or stealth sheild, you'll protect the phone from it.

Reception does suck on the G2, I've had to drop signal a couple times when I was at home, but then again the MyTouch does it as well, so wifi calling for me is a must, but it depends in the service you get at home.

Overall, I like the MT4G over the G2 more, it's thinner, 0.1in bigger screen, and is quick. Even though I have the bad Taiwan screen, it's still good with me, as I'm planning on selling this phone after a couple months.

There's more things I like about the G2 than the MT4G but that's all that comes to mind for now.,
[myTouch 4G General] Mistic99:
Just a fyi. The under clocked processor on the G2 is the same or more powerful than the mt4g. Clock speed isn't the only thing that states the performance of a specific chipset over thee other. Also the G2s new processor has a faster graphics chipset integrated.
[myTouch 4G General] student.driver:
I'm pretty sure it's measured as 768MB of RAM when using the modules with their rounded values, and a portion of that is reserved for graphics, just like on the G2.

I have both of the phones, and I still love the G2. That is for two reasons: first, the keyboard is very nice to have even if it's a bit too stiff (and I haven't fallen in love with any of the soft keyboards yet), and second I love the clean ROM it comes with. I've rooted my fair share of phones, and quite honestly I'm tired of keeping up with them. I got the G2 first knowing that Cyanogen was going to work on it, and by extension Enomther (who I used for my G1 and N1 ROMs). I got my first myTouch 4G for free for changing my plan, and it had the bad screen. I got it switched, and so far I like my plum one just fine. I do miss the battery life of the G2 as compared to this, but I've resigned myself to rooting this one once CM7 STABLE comes out to see if this helps with the battery "issues" I seem to have. I can get through the day, but the G2 just did it much easier.

Other weirdness with the myTouch 4G seems to come from its display type and all the RAM. The display seems to draw a lot of power (unlike the slightly smaller G2) relative to the rest of the Android OS and all that RAM lets apps reside in memory, and in some cases draw CPU time, long after you've used them. I had Shazam drawing CPU time 3 days after I originally used it, simply because it wasn't paged out of RAM because it didn't "need" to. I like that it has all the RAM, but I feel that RAM management could be a lot better in the OS to prevent things like this from happening. Maybe 2.3 will be a little better. Also, I wanted the FFC since I knew I'd use it sometime in the future, but I have cameras on 4 laptops in the house and we haven't used them in at least a year, if at all.

One side note, if you like cases a LOT, you'll be much better off with the mT4G, since you can get a lot of cases and they won't be so thick when installed. My wife has a G2 as well, and that thing is chunky with the case on. Just thought I'd pass that along. :-)
[myTouch 4G General] student.driver:
They both have the same GPU, the Adreno 205.
[myTouch 4G General] student.driver:
Oh yeah, and one thing I really, REALLY love about the myTouch 4G is the 5GHz wireless support. WiFi calling works a LOT better on that, whereas I seem to have a lot of issues with 2.4GHz. Of course, the WiFi app tends to crap out, but that seems to be more of an issue with the application than either the mT4G or the G2. :)
[myTouch 4G General] TeeJay3800:
In case it hasn't already been clarified, the MT4G has 768 MB of RAM.
[myTouch 4G General] bobsbbq:
The processors are not the same, there architecture is the same but they are in fact different CPU's.

I'm sorry to the original poster I was mistaken about the RAM. Also you should know if you ask this question in the MT4G section you are going to get these responses.

The screen on the MT4G is just as good if not better due to the small increase in size than the G2. This is of course if you have a good screen and not a washed out one.

Good luck on your decision.
[myTouch 4G General] elbarto7:
did you trade your g2 or you bought another mt4g?
[myTouch 4G General] smirkis:
I own both and I use my mytouch on a daily instead. Ffc isn't everything but least its there when u want it. The g2 is heavy as hell. In the end the choice is yours but I like my mytouch a lot. Development has just took off as well, this phone will be/is superior. Kmobs said it himself lol
[myTouch 4G General] gabrialxue:
Okay, so I've decided I will keep the myTouch but I need to figure out how to trade it in for one with a better screen even though I dont have a t-mobile account or proof of purchase.
[myTouch 4G General] xiton:
I'll give you my recommendations. I've sold two MT4G's on Craigslist now, both have had the inferior display. I bought both "used" and then flipped them for about $50 more than I paid. I know you expressed concern about the quality of yours, but you may be able to still sell it for a good amount. If all else fails, you could even try trading for another phone in better condition, then selling that on CL for a profit.

Of course, whenever you go this route, you do give a bit up to luck, and you must also have some patience. There are also a lot of T-Mobile phones up for sale because of their buy one get one free deal going on, so browse the listings before you post yours.

You can also browse your local CL to find MT4Gs for sale. Email the seller and ask them if they can look under the battery and see if it's made in China or Taiwan. While either may have a good screen, it seems China has a better chance in having it. Then tell them you'd like to meet up and take a look at it.

Someone else might have a better plan, but hopefully this gives you a few other ideas. Good luck on finding that screen. :)
[myTouch 4G General] gabrialxue:
I will try to switch to T-Mobile within a few weeks since I've been thinking about it. Hopefully I can get them to exchange it.

If not maybe I will take the bad viewing angles in stride? Lol no more people peeping at my texts.
[myTouch 4G General] surfnhawaii808:
I had a g2, the battery life on the one i had sucked.... returned it for a white mt4g and the battery now lasts a lot longer!

Aloha from beautiful Hawaii
[myTouch 4G General] BeEazy10:
TBH(To be Honest)

All touch vs keyboard/Touch

Performance wise the MT4G is faster then the G2, but push that to the side and ask yourself can you deal with an all touch phone on a daily bases
[myTouch 4G General] s10shane:
ur right about him just needing his IMEI number in their system.. ive done exchanges before with insurance with phones i have traded on craigslist. i talked to tmobile and i got a really nice lady and she told me it takes about 4 or 5 days to update in there system that u got a new phone. she said to keep using the new phone for that amount of time, then there systems will update and ur phone should show up in the system. if they ask where u got it from just say u got it as a gift and u never got a receipt. but if the IMEI number is in there system they shouldnt be asking u that anyways.
[myTouch 4G General] carmeng4evr:
I played with a G2...it pinched me lol

i dont like that phone at all. If i were you, i would have stuck with the mytouch
[myTouch 4G General] Arcadia310:
The myTouch 4Gs camera is much better than the G2s. The G2s is pretty subpar.
[myTouch 4G General] s10shane:
how did the g2 pinch u? lol
[myTouch 4G General] s10shane:
also the mytouch 4g beats the g2 at everything really. better speed more memory slighty bigger screen and a lot lighter then the g2. i went to check out the g2 and mytouch 4g when the mytouch 4g first came out. i was like omg it feels like im caring a brick in my hand no joke lol. the only thing i like on the g2 was the nice slide out keyboard and the touch screen buttons on the bottom of the screen are really nice and the battery release is awesome. but those are the only 3 things i can think of that are good about the g2. i know some people say u can overclock it to be fast but overclocking a cell phone is stupid and pointless. i will laugh when peoples phones dont last long just because they wanted to brag that there phone is clocked at 1.6 ghz or faster and that they get great benchmark scores. i would only overclock a pc and thats it.
[myTouch 4G General] banks1359:
I Agree MyTouch 4G FTW!

I agree with everyone here MyTouch 4G FTW, but thats gonna be the main consensus in a MyTouch 4G Forum... lol
[myTouch 4G General] elbarto7:
agree, try asking the g2 community:)
[myTouch 4G General] s10shane:
yeah but if he does that, then they are gonna tell him the g2 is better so it does no good. its all on him. try both of them out and figure out what is best for u. thats all that will matter period.
[myTouch 4G General] banks1359:
Try asking the general android forum.... :-)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] conflikt:
Was wondering if it is even worth it to update hboot, I pre-ordered my evo from best buy so I have a 002 hardware version with white spots on my screen, not willing to trade for a refurbished haha. My hboot version is 0.79 with s-off
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weaselp1:
I would not update hboot. .79 is one of the better hboots imo...plus it isn't hard to mess up your phone by upgrading hboots
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bellatrix2011:
I have an HTC EVO 4g already flashed from sprint to cricket. I am able to make and receive calls and text messages but I m unable to use MMS and web browsing and I also keep getting voicemail 08 error.

I keep reading about all these different ROMs and kernels in few posts that solve issues with cricket but I m not sure which ones would work for me. I have never really done any of this on my own and I whenever I post something on a thread for help no one seems to be getting back to me. I would be greatly appreciated if someone could help me out here. It would be great if any of you could guide me how go about this issue step by step because I m totally illiterate when it comes to anything software.

Also I read on one thread that I would require an android plan for my phone for certain ROMs to be functional but when I contact the cricket store that flashed my phone over to cricket says I must use a cricket android phone to use the android plan. Is there no other way to get a an android plan on EVO?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jimdog420:
There is a thread already about cricket/evo roms. Just search for it. I know there are plenty of people using cricket sucessfully atm. You cant use all the customs roms, only the one(s) designed for cricket.

Google is your friend...

Swyped from a galaxy far far away......
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bellatrix2011:
yes I read a particular thread from ztahoez that mentions a bunch of ROMs and they were all for cricket. But should I use them all?

This is what the post mentioned:

[ROMS] Cricket-Zmod For Cricket Service Fully functional everything

First off I take no credit for these roms besides adding and removing files and settings for cricket use.

Credit goes to Avalaunch, Deathsled, tritron777, Calkulin and kingklick for there roms, settings and Amazing kernels.

You must install rom manager from the market and install AMON RA'S 1.80(if you have clockwork recovery) recovery BEFORE you install this rom Make Sure you wipe data/cache and the dalvik-cache

Open root explorer and navigate to the extra apps folder.

While in rootexplorer go to the Apnbackupandrestore folder and long press the cricket.xml file and select open in text editor. Edit the 9370000000@mycricket.com to your number then save it.

Install Apnbackupandrestore.

Open Apn backup then delete apns.

Then restore the cricket.xml file you saved.

Also install VoiceMail notifier from the market or from the extra apps folder in your SD card.

Enjoy the Rom working fully on crickets network.

You must have the Android plan on your phone to use this

Calkulin_'s_EViO_2_ROM_v1.6.2-Cricket-Zmod

Based off of the newest OTA

This Rom has the htc#17 undervolted kernel included.

I am currently using this kernel that seems to be working very well.

AvafroyoV9-Cricket-Zmod

If you get an error trying to start the WiFi radio, install KingxKlick's kernel #10 CFS:

*change log

added hulu fix (install flash-hex-edited.apk in the extra apps folder on your sd card and clear ALL YOUR SETTINGS in your browser then restart the phone)

battery life on this build is AMAZING

i am averaging 15 hours on heavy use

Avafroyov8-Cricket-Zmod

So should install all of these on my phone? And the part where I must have an android plan? when I speak to the people at cricket they tell me I must buy an android phone from cricket to get that plan... they can't add the plan on my account unless I have their phone. So now I m stuck. Any suggestions please?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] SubyWill:
Hi guys, I'm wondering if anyone can make or has a modified dark or black gmail app? I'm tired of the bright white!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Yorzua:
dark gmail

dont know if you finally find it but you can take a look here

running well for me :rolleyes:
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] AndroidFiend:
Prerequisites:ADB & S-Off & Root

How to obtain ADB in Windows

How to obtain ADB in Linux

How to obtain Root

How to obtain S-Off

Another very useful link click here for everything

I REPEAT YOU NEED TO HAVE ADB, ROOT AND S-OFF

How to flash via fastboot:

fastboot flash splash1 /PATH WHERE SPLASH IS LOCATED/SPLASH'S FILE NAME

If you're already in your tools folder via cmd and the splash is located in the tools folder:

fastboot flash splash1 "FILE NAME"

In example I would do:

fastboot flash splash1 C:\Users\XXX\Documents\android-sdk-windows\tools\nexSpresso.rgb565

or

fastboot flash splash1 nexSpresso.rgb565

Here are a couple of splash screens ready to flash via fastboot.

I will update this OP with newer splash screens as I make them.

Stock MyTouch 3G Slide: Download

nexSpresso Unlocked: Download

nexHTC: Download Link works now if it doesn't download through internet explorer try a different web browser

The Power Button: Download

The Fermunky: Download

Obey Giant: Download

Dobbs: Download
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] AndroidFiend:
Splash's made by Arayray​

HTC Unlocked: Download

Android Unlocked: Download

Quietly Rooted Unlocked: Download

Android Skater: Download

Quiet Skater: Download

HTC Skater: Download
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] AndroidFiend:
Just in case, another post reserved :)
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] arayray:
I love the Espresso with nexus icon, thats going to be my new splash :)
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] AndroidFiend:
Updated now has Arayray's splash screens in the 2nd post.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] ladderwalker:
Heres one I made

Data Download
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] thegreenfamily04:
I made one (Quick and dirty) But I like it :0)
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] AndroidFiend:
I am taking requests now so give me some ideas
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] fermunky:
Can you make one out of the desktop I use? Obviously the width is not right, but if the monkey could be cropped to make the image fit I'd love this.

Edit: I thought I remembered seeing this, but where are the requirements for the splash image file to use? I figured I could make one myself easily, but not sure if there are restrictions on file extension, colors, and what their actual dimensions are...
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] HighRidas:
here you go extract and flash via fastboot
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] DGarmon:
Font's

I was wondering, where would we get the HTC and Expresso fonts to add to homemade splash screens?
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] fermunky:
How long should I wait for the command prompt to stop saying <waiting for device>? Should I be doing this from recovery?
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] purple1:
You have to be in Hboot. Turn on phone while holding down power and volume down. Then select the fast boot and then flash :)
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] fermunky:
:facepalm:... hence the reason we run the fastboot command, what an idiot I am. Thanks

Sweet christ, you didn't crop it :( Thats OK though, found the tool to make my own rgb565 file, I'll handle from here. Thanks for trying :)
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] purple1:
No prob. :-) I was a dumb ass and waited 30 minutes with that screen waiting for it to flash. Didn't find out till I flashed in hboot
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] fermunky:
Hah, that what I did. Was at work and started a call at 1pm, but ran the fastboot command. My call ended 26 minutes, still waiting for device, and then I saw your reply. What a fail.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] purple1:
I'm pretty sure it happened to all of us :P
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] AndroidFiend:
Well i havent found the exact ones that htc use but i do use 2 fonts that are similar to them hence how i made the espresso logo in my splash. I will post links to the fonts when i get home later on and @fermunky i will have that splash done for you by tonight
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] AndroidFiend:
@Fermunky your requested splash is in the OP

and the 2 fonts i use are

Hurtmold

PhatBoySlim
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] DGarmon:
Cool, thanks.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] purple1:
LOL FURYMUNKEY xD that's kool man !
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] tKoHaXoR:
I made this..enjoy. If you like it, give a little thanks!

:)

Nexus Skaters

Burning Crusade
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] guitarist5122:
thanks for the splashes. i flashed the monkey
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] katbastard:
would love a bob dobbs splash man!
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] eclipsed450:
i wouldn't mind a nice gingerbread related one to go along with cm7 :-)
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] nonextstop:
I really like the nexHTC one :D
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] rivetrik:
id like to have the red lantern logo for a splash screen
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] AndroidFiend:
hey guys sorry I haven't been taking the requests lately. My mytouch slide was broken but now it somehow revived. I will be taking requests soon once I get adb setup on my macbook pro.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] ilostchild:
Hey sorry bout the phone at least its back and kicking!!

May i request something girly for the wife? she is still rocking the alpha rev joker.. LOL
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] AndroidFiend:
new splash in OP obey giant by shepard fairey is an iconic piece in art history also taking requests now.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] katbastard:
I would really love a bob dobbs splash man, I am squatting in the desert on an abandon amrybase building a house out of hay bails so I. Can't repost the pic again
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] AndroidFiend:
making one right now
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] AndroidFiend:
dobbs splash in OP
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] huggs:
Links are broken. Had to root and cwm restore the gf's replacement Slide, and I need to get rid of the hideous mt3g splash (that damn white is sooo bright in a dark bedroom)

I had the HTC Unlocked splash (first one on the second post) on her sd card, but it looks like she deleted it (or I did, but I'd rather blame her).

Anybody got the HTC unlocked splash and wanna be kind and attach it or upload and post me a link?

:).........TIA..........:)
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] MC MILK:
i really like it, thanks bro!
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] ampkofi:
I keep getting this error whenever I try to flash splash image ''"remote not allowed "" how can I correct this?
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] clefire:
HELPPPPPPPPP:rolleyes::rolleyes:

clefire-desktop splash # fastboot flash splash1 d.png

sending 'splash1' (21 KB)...

OKAY [ 0.166s]

writing 'splash1'...

(bootloader) signature checking...

FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)

finished. total time: 0.172s

im only hboot unlocked but not s-off could it be the problem??