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[HD2 Android NAND Development] aboveluna:
i also wondering about this, maybe right now it is not possible, but from future development i read:

*support of fixed partitions layout with ability to reflash any partition

so is that mean, in the future we can partition the rom, and use one partition to nand boot winmo and the other to nand boot android? AKA dual boot from nand? or am i just misunderstand it?

because i read somewhere that winmo cannot read any partition in rom so its not possible... only android and other linux based can use partitions for 2 different build... but that future release point make me think again

sorry, i ask the same thing in hd2 general but no people reponds it so i think maybe i can get better reply here
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jetta20162:
i think, it makes no sense to boot several OS from several NAND partitions on HD2, the limitation of 512 or 567 MB will make this unusable because a default rom has a size of about 200MB...and btw. winmo can not handle ext or other unix based partitions ...but android can do both: ext and fat...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mjckt:
I was getting an error when trying to upload magldr in my samsung laptop with windows 7. 266 UPDATE ERROR , finally i realized that i was connecting the HD2 in the USB 3.0 ports, so i changed back to a USB 2.0 port and everything went ok.

Just in case anyone is having a similiar problem.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jetta20162:
Did you use W7 X64?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] aboveluna:
thanks for the quick answer, i think about the t-mobile version with 1gb rom... so 512x2

but yeah, if it is impossible because winmo cannot read it then you just save me from unnecesary headache looking to swap my euro hd2 to t-mob one :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] letama:
Well, yes and no. It's possible to have a very limited winmo without sense that could be around 50 MB probably. The custom rom I cooked and used before android was 140 MB with sense, only by doing some fat triming. It would be nice to have to be able to launch some winmo specific/better app like gps, ... With a stock/cyanogen 128 MB android, it could be useable.

However, Cotulla made some experiments to have magldr boot winmo, it was possible but was not working perfectly, wince rom was corrupted after few days. But now that he made rmnet work by somehow fitting android radio parts, I'm not sure it would be possible at all.

LeTama
[HD2 Android NAND Development] aboveluna:
yeah and i also forgot that i read here before http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Magldr

magldr support YAFFS2 partition, so that time i think winmo and android is supported by the partitions... but im also not sure... thats why i also ask here
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jetta20162:
Ok, i didn't know this...but why would you have both OS on NAND?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] aboveluna:
because both os have programs that i still need, i already tested nand android and it surely much more stable and battery friendly than sd version... so i thought it must be better to have 2 stable os in nand than one winmo in rom and one buggy less battery android in sd
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jetta20162:
ok, but what programs have WM that andriod doesn't?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] HateSoul:
I got a question,if i enabled "UseLast24NAND" would i be able to turn it back off? or it's stuck that way?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] elgrego4:
Is there a way of hiding mag on bootup? It looks out of place between the htc and android splash screens.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] aboveluna:
- garmin xt, the only pure gps with the most complete map for my country

- tcpmp, media player that can play most media files

- fpsece, for some psx love, psx4droid not even close hehe :D

and the most important is a program that used in my workplace that is winmo only (something that queue call and like black berry messenger for our work network) :o
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Tung.Q.Phan:
LeTama, I followed the second part of the instruction and yet I still get the frozen lockscreen like jmcdonald58. I don't know how to do the first part, "initrd.gz links /system/init.rc from system.ext2 to /init.rc and boot". I am trying to boot the myTouch 4g rom http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=889718. Can you help me please? Maybe the it is an incompatible rom?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jmcdonald58:
I am not sure whats up now when I boot from Superram I get green htc logo then just black screen no longer making it to lockscreen heading home here in a bit going reinstalled the darkstone zip file and try again Dang it shouldn't be that hard I don't know what it is I am screwing up here
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jmcdonald58:
I going to be looking at this later tonite or tomorrow I am determine to figure it out so I can run DS superram if I like from card so hopefully we will get this working with Letama's assistance and instrustions on my end I am sure its something I am doing ---as soon as I figure it out DS will probadly come out with SuperNandRam Rom or who knows what he has in store for us ....
[HD2 Android NAND Development] schinhing:
HELP ME !!!!!!

i keep getting this when i try to flash the nand rom

Error Description: USB init failed

Info: .\RSPL\RSPL.cpp (723)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] simax:
uncheck "allow usb connection" in connection settings of active sync.... when you try to flash with xp... or run as admin

edit:

looking forward to see a new update :) (hopefully fixing battery charging whil turned off) ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mrbox23:
anyone how i can remap the keys? i need swype the volume down key with the back key next to power button please help
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jmcdonald58:
Ok I got it to boot and past the lockscreen freeze following your example I renamed the file to dsram booted 1st time tried Android before not sure if that had any to do with it but basicially thats all I did different but I am not getting data for some reason changed apn to what is listed on the leo nand stock forum t-mobile usa any ideals I also only did part 2 of your instrustions ---
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Lintux2004:
Boot problem after installing MAGLDR 1.11

Hello all.

Since I haved flashed MAGLDR 1.11 on my HD2 (the German model of the mobile phone) I have the following problem (I tried it with to different NAND ROM`s ... LEO "Stock Desire" NAND Android ROM and FroYo Revolution v.2.2 ... and the result is the same ... so it seems that the problem is not related to the NAND ROM):

Both tested ROM`s are working properly (I prefer the FroYo Revolution ROM because it provides more internal memory than the Stock Desire ROM). When I turn off the phone and connect it to its charger the orange LED turns on and I can`t turn the HD2 back on ... independent if I remove the power cord or if I keep the cord plugged in.

I have to do a Hard-Reset by pressing the small red button beside the battery to boot into Android again.

When I connect the HD2 to the charger while Android is up and running the behaviour of the phone is like expected ... the battery charges and I can switch off the phone and turn it back on again without any problems.

Can somebody please try this on your HD2 mobiles and confirm this problem?

Regards

Lintux
[HD2 Android NAND Development] babbel4ever:
I did this but when i boot from sd the device hangs, how can i than enter tty mode?

Still cant boot nandroid from phone memory of sd card it hangs....

Cant get back to wm so at the moment my pjone is bricked by magldr... nice work :S

No tool to recover this, next time it would be nice that this is made in to it, so u can get back to wm normally in case of problems.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] spirgas:
Its known issue with charging while phone off... Lets hope it will be fixed in later magldr releases. For now, dont power off while charging :p
[HD2 Android NAND Development] knkpp:
Magldr 1.11 os android

I DFT use android nada thanks and Happy New Year
[HD2 Android NAND Development] letama:
Ok, let's try another way: here is my full android directory, put it on sd and retry...

http://www.multiupload.com/38KFUHNRJ6

If it stills hang, reset with the red button at the back of the phone, while pressing power to show magldr menu, then start tty mode, and do ad log in putty. Post it here, I'll take a look.

LeTama
[HD2 Android NAND Development] :
Bug!

While charging the HD2 and connect off the usb from the socket the led is still orange and it didn't put out.....The only way to put out the LED is to pull the battery from the back.....

This happened after flashing MAGLDR

I will try to reflash and use TASK29.....

HD2 with Radio 2.10.50
[HD2 Android NAND Development] babbel4ever:
Sd kernel failed is the only thing i get when i copy the files on the sd card.

What am i doing wrong?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ATomCZ:
I tested now more detailed and it doesn't work too well. I have robotic voice with DesireZ build (boot from haret is OK), whole Android is less stable. I for example lost Launcher Pro setting for second time :-( Do you have some else this problem?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] markvanhaze:
Could somebody point me to a Nexus build for the SD card that will boot using MAGLDR ?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] keesmathot:
gogog stuck iseu

If i do soft reset from android i still get stuck at the GOGOGO part.

How is this possible? But if i just select AD NAND BOOT it works.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] spirgas:
Maybe you auto booting from SD? Change auto boot settings in magldr #8 menu.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] letama:
Did you select the android directory properly ? (Services/BootSettings/AD SD Dir)

LeTama
[HD2 Android NAND Development] letama:
I don't have simcard anymore in the hd2, so I didn't test calls, but you should check that you have a default.acdb or htcleo.acdb in /system/etc/firmware. The old "no acdb" trick doesn't work anymore with nand.

Robotic voice on first call is a known issue, I didn't check yet if it was the same with previous magldr (1.08). I saw some workaround floating saying that toggling external speaker helps.

Regarding settings, I don't know. I didn't go much into these builds, can't tell what's wrong.

LeTama
[HD2 Android NAND Development] keesmathot:
ok il try that thanx!

edit: It's working thnx! but still strange becouse it was already on auto nand boot. but annyway, thnx.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Dat32:
so ive installed everything no problem but now i need to go back to windows os because the gps doesnt work as fast. ive read that i need to use quickgps but thats only on windows os. how can get i back onto windows os? after i fix the gps will i be able to restart my phone to go back onto auto android os? please help!!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] naps1saps:
I have an extended battery btw.

magldr makes the device hang when the following is true:

-phone is in off state

-charging cable is connected

if charging cable is then removed or left plugged in, amber led stays on and phone will not turn on unless battery is removed and re-inserted.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Lintux2004:
Hello naps1saps ,

See also Post 935 and 937 ...

Regards

Lintux
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ClydeB1:
No, the 2 are mutually exclusive, ie when you install a NAND rom it overwites WM and vice versa. You can only run one NAND based OS at a time. I've heard that GPS Status (available from the Market) does similiar things for Android as what QuickGPS does for WM.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] letama:
Ok... This time, you boot from sd, and you crash quite early in fact.

First thing to try: Do you boot with usb cable plugged to the phone ? Could you try unplugging it if you do, or plug it if you don't (with battery removal first)?

Question: did you enable UseLast24Nand ? From you nand layout, it seems so. Could you try in magldr: Services/UseLast24Nand/No ? Then do tty and in putty type "ad fastformat", then try to boot (still from sd).

If if still doesn't work with that, please do the log thing again.

LeTama
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mcab21:
Help!

I'm totally new to this and im sure im doing something wrong but here goes.....

I have installed 2.08 HSPL and then installed MAGLDR111. This seems to work and the device states "Device has been hacked ;-)". When the device reboots (this is an O2 UK HTC HD2) it simply sits there on the O2 splash screen (or in some cases different from mine it may be the HTC splash screen). It doesnt load the MAGLDR OS which allows you to select option 4 to carry out the USB ROM Flash.

So my question is, what am I doing wrong? I tried installing 2.00000 instead of 2.08 HSPL but then MAGLDR never installs and it sits on the HTC screen with progress at 0% until it times out. So it seem 2.08 HSPL is the only one i can use right now.

I've also tried all sorts of combinations to get MAGLDR111 to load, such as letting it attempt to load itself, holding in power, holding down other buttons and it still fails to load.

Any ideas?

If no one can tell me how to run MAGLDR in this scenario - can someone tell me how to revert to the original version of Windows 6.5 I had before?

Thanks in advance!!!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ClydeB1:
What radio version do you have. A 50 series radio of at least 2.08.50 is required. If you're not sure what radio you have just reboot back into bootloader (tri-colour) and flash a suitable radio.

If you want to return to WM however, from the bootloader screen above you can flash a WM rom.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mcab21:
Thanks for your quick reply!!

How do I find out the radio version of the phone? Im not to sure where to look for this.

Also, if I do have a series that needs version 2.08.50, where can I download this? I have tried HSPL3_PKG.exe and this only has two options for me:

1) 2.0000000 - this doesnt install at all (sits at 0%)

2) 2.08HSPL - this works but MAGLDR doesnt load

Im guess then I need one that has a new option with version 2.08.50?

These are probably really simple questions but this is my first attempt at this (probably my last too! :-S)

Thanks again for your help!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] spirgas:
Radio is not HSPL.

I suggest download radio 2.15.50 from here And flash from bootloader (tricolor screen)

Also you must have HSPL2.08 before flashing radio... It must be writen in the same bootloader...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] HateSoul:
Bump! Anyone?!!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] babbel4ever:
Then do tty and in putty type "ad fastformat", then try to boot (still from sd)

Try this.. not my solution but maybe u have something with this....
[HD2 Android NAND Development] webpatrick:
If I just install MAGLDR 1.11 (no NAND Android yet), I cannot get into WM anymore is that right?

If so, please mention that in the first thread, cause I would like to use MAGLDR just to startup Android from SD (option 1), but now I cannot get into WM anymore...

Reflashing WM again...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] d3adz0mbiefl3sh:
this is the error i get when i try to install dft android rom

Error happen

Read below for more information

Error Description: USB init failed

Info: .\RSPL\RSPL.cpp (723)

microsoft active sync is present in device manager anyone got any ideas
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Monrad:
Read carefully the first post and youll see that booting WM is a "future develpement" feature. That means it wont boot winmo just right now.

Take your time to read the first post before you flash anything to your device.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jmcdonald58:
I got mine booting from the sd with darkstone superram but cannot get data to work change apn settings still no luck not sure where to go from here?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] F-bone:
Thanks for your great work. People like you make things go forward.

A beer from me :) Confirmation number: 6LX71281W4813050D.

Take care ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Broekhuijsen:
This is very kewl, thank you, I replaced the newinitrd.gz with your initrd.gz and deleted the original one. Now I can boot android from SD without any problems.

A lot faster than first booting windows mobile and now I can keep trying different nand builds without having to revert back to winmo all the time to keep using my SD version.

I am using the RAM rom from Darkstone. I did run a benchmark and somehow that still is giving me much better results than NAND like MDJ Gingerbread NAND 1.5

Maybe that is because RAM is the better option? I still wonder if it is possible to have a RAM rom loaded directly from NAND? Or is a NAND rom automatically loaded into RAM?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] letama:
I took a look at your logs, all looks fine except that kernel stops. I'm out of options...

Kernel is crashing at a weird location without any message, "ad fastformat" took out potential nand problems out of the equation, so I don't know what else could be tested.

I discussed with Cotulla about your problem, he believes that your device is damaged.

I think the only solution here would be to send it back to htc for repair.

Sorry that I can't help more,

LeTama
[HD2 Android NAND Development] letama:
You should be able to revert it back but you would have to reflash your rom.

I would leave the option as it is, except if you don't care much about android corruptions and reflashing. It's highly experimental, and you'll loose your data partition if you have to re-flash magldr to update version. The 24 MB is, in my opinion, not worth it.

LeTama
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Ramdroid:
AGAIN:

Hey... what is, when i DONT have windows mobile installed ?

(i have the JNF Android loader installed)

Can i "flash" the MAGLDR the same way like i installed my previous winmo-roms ?

-> rename the image to LEOIMG.NBH and Copy to root of SD

and start the HARDSPL ?!

????????????

Please answer !!! I cant wait, but will be sure before i start...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] letama:
Hum, I didn't change data behaviour of Darkstone build, my only goal was to verify that it can boot. I don't have even have simcard to test calls and data.

Ideally, it should be switched to rmnet by adding rmnet_mode parameter to ril wrapper and add a compatible kernel, but I'll let the respective android chefs do it as these are not my builds.

LeTama
[HD2 Android NAND Development] letama:
Well, I don't know if ram is a better option, but I believe that ram load from nand should be possible.

I'll let other do the experiments, I don't have enough free time to work on this.

LeTama
[HD2 Android NAND Development] FreakyFerret:
Confirming the problem, I took these steps.

Task 29 Phone and formatted SD card

Install MAGLDR

Install a nand ROM

Problem remained.

Task 29 and format again. MAGLDR again. Another ROM, problem remained.

Task 29 and format again. Flash stock WinMo ROM. Problem gone.

Task 29 and format again. Flash ChuckyDroid and HD2ONE sd ROM. Problem gone.

Seems to me a problem with the MAGLDR / nand builds. No one else has had this? Any solutions?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] puremind:
I fiashed 1.1 version on top of Energy Rom, SPL 2.08, and latest European Radio (I believe 2.14).

USB Flash doesn't work for me, USB init fails in DFT. It says "Wait USB...USB", the driver installed, but then the update utility doesn't seem to connect:

Error Description: USB init failed, Info: .\RSPL\RSPL.cpp (723)

My WM won't boot anymore, MAGLDR always appear first, and I can't flash anything else unless using vol down and power.

I don't want to downgrade to official WM ROM, what can I do to flash Nand Android?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] orangekid:
just use a different computer to flash teh android ROM, some computers (seems to be more often on xp) don't autoinstall magldr when you plug in the USB and don't recognize it.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] :
I had the same problem at first and I re-flashed HSPL first, then Task 29 new Radio, then My fav Tmous HD2 ROM, then started all over with the MAGLDR 1.11 and all is well now.

Hope this helps.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] FreakyFerret:
Thanks MtCassetty. I didn't try reflashing HSPL. I'll do that and see how it goes. I was going to click the Thanks button, but it says I'm limited to 5 thanks for day. I'll get you tomorrow.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jmcdonald58:
OK thats works for me I am please that I am able to boot for sure and I sure they wil be cooking something up for Nand in near future I do appreciate the help will be buying you a beer soon you are very helpful and precise in your answers---
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mjckt:
yep, Win7even X64, probably a cause too
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mcab21:
Thanks a million that has worked!!!

For those like me who arent too sure - all I did was follow the link, install Leo_RADIO_2.15.50.14** and then reinstall MAGLDR111 and it booted up correctly this time. Hopefully Android will go on no sweat! :-)

Thanks guys!!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] crowbarr:
Just a simple (and I hope not stupid) question. Is there any way to run MAGLDR in a "silent boot" mode - so under normal boot conditions you don't see the program running - only a splash screen?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Conflikt Icey:
How about you try it first. And if it doesn't work, then you can start asking for help
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ntollemache:
Do I need to flash a 512 enabled ROM before I flash Magldr - I currently have a stock vodafone UK ROM with HSPL 2 and radio 2.10.50.08_2?

Some help would have appreciated!

Thanks in advance,

Nick
[HD2 Android NAND Development] FireMAN999:
Should work with HSPL 3.03, just needs to be newer than HSPL 1.66 to boot to MAGLDR screen.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pakure:
because i cannot risk flashing without hspl...cos it can brick the phone,..if i hspl 2.08 on stock spl 3.03, i will get only 50 mb free....get it....so iam asking for help from some one who knows these:rolleyes:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] grigorr:
Amazing:) Thank You very much Sir;)

I have just one question- is it possible to run WP7 on our HD2 with this version of MAGLDR??
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Derek0228:
Ok, MAGLDR up and running, now what?

OK, i got magldr, but how do i make the selection, i mean i now i need to use the volume up and down keys to go up and down, but how to select something? Sorry for this stupid question!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dbshane:
use send to select (the most left one)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dunkkid23:
Do you have any instructions for the people who use US T-mobile HD2's? :confused:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] xdabart:
The opening post said:

MAGLDR doesn't replace OSPL/HSPL. It runs in the chain after. So it's safe to install and remove it.

So, i was thinking maybe you don't need HSPL if you have a stock 3.14 (WWE) ROM , OSPL is the original SPL i already have, no ?

I think i'll wait for the FAQ, Desire-Z already running so nicely here, if it aint broke....
[HD2 Android NAND Development] paocavallo:
yeah!!!!

please make a mirror!!

i'm not able to download it too...

:(
[HD2 Android NAND Development] jawash22:
Hit the green send button....
[HD2 Android NAND Development] agarp:
waited for this long time

now its there awsum
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Derek0228:
also stuck on the go go go! sreen :(

it says booting android from sd. and something of initrd open failed, and then just gogogo! and it reboots and does it again, what did i do wrong?

using darkstone's sense ram btw!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sotmax:
congrats guys.

You re beyond limits :):)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] duttythroy:
Great Job cotulla and DFT team and wish a happy new years.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] scorpion86:
after installing mgldr my hd2 is just waiting on white screen with htc written on it? what can i do? (its o2 de) its not connecting to usb. what i must do plz help me?

i made it. just hold the volume down key while rebooting then install 2.08 hspl.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pakure:
yes sir, i do understand that but to enable 576mb ram on non-tmous hd2, we need to flash custom RAM.(hence the need for hspl??).........or is there any way to flash only a radio that would be enough...........or do i need to flash spl3.03 based custom rom like artemis?:confused: