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[Vibrant General] emonero:
We should all flood samsung and Tmobile requesting better support for this phone..here is my live chat with samsung:

Chat Information Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.

Chat Information You are now chatting with 'Alexander '

Alexander : Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?

Visitor: hi

Visitor: I would like to know when are we getting Froyo on the vibrant?

Alexander : I understand that you want to know about the froyo. Am I correct?

Visitor: yes

Alexander : Thank you for the confirmation.

Alexander : Please Allow me to check with the database for the phone.

Visitor: ok

Alexander : Thank you for holding.

Alexander : Unfortunately there is no update available at this time for your vibrant, nor is there an estimated date of one being released. We are unable to speculate when/if a software revision might be available due to the fact that this might lead to inaccurate information and confusion.

Alexander : Our software department are under the process of releasing a new upgrade for this device. And we expect very soon there will be an update for this phone model.

Alexander : I apologize for the inconvenience caused to you.

Visitor: do you know an estimate of when this will be release?

Alexander : As of now we do not have any information on the release date but we expect the update very soon.

Alexander : You will be notified by the carrier once you get an update.

Alexander : Is there anything else I can assist you with?

Visitor: no that's it thanks

Alexander : You are most welcome.

Alexander : It was a pleasure assisting you. Thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. If you have a minute, please click on the blue “X close” button to receive a transcript of your chat and fill out a brief survey to help us serve you better. Have a wonderful day!

Chat Information Chat session has been terminated by the Samsung Agent.
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
Agreed everyone should voice their anger.
[Vibrant General] emonero:
We should pick a date a flood their support...don't get me wrong I got froyo on my phone thanks to XDA but we should all do this so they can hear our voice loud and clear!
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
I agree, we should get all Galaxy S users involved and flood Samsungs & T-Mobiles Facebook and Twitter
[Vibrant General] rjwisniewski:
While I applaud your initiative, I don't think that flooding T-Mobile's LiveChat is going to accomplish much, other than annoying some customer service representatives who have little to no knowledge of when or if you are getting your update. Sure, your conversation may be stored in some nice database somewhere and sure, maybe if a large enough swarm of Vibrant users all hit that LiveChat on the same day someone *might* notice a trend, but other than that, you're taking a CARE rep away from someone who might have a real issue.

Don't get me wrong. Does it suck that we don't have legit Froyo, yes. So, it may be a "real" issue to some people, but I also have to look at it from the T-Mobile employee side of the fence since I'm a store manager and deal with these concerns and complaints daily.

I own a Vibrant, I feel your pain. However, guess what. If 10, 100, or 1000 of you came to my store and said "When is Froyo coming?" It probably still wouldn't come any faster.

*The views expressed in this post are my own and not that of T-Mobile* - LOL
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
No we shouldn't do it via live chat, but we should get Epic, Captivate, Fascinate, and Vibrant owners to message T-Mobile and Samsung Via Twitter and Facebook about our frustration for the lack of Support and Upgrades on this phone. We should all do it on the same day and get all Galaxy S owners to join in.

I've heard hundreds of people on this forum b*tching and complaining, why not complain directly to Samsung & T-Mobiles Facebook and Twitter instead of crying on xda.
[Vibrant General] rjwisniewski:
This I agree with. Twitter, Facebook... hell, why not even sites like LinkedIn. These are all social platforms that are meant to make our voices heard. If we deliver them with the correct method, I'm all for it.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
I'm in.

10char
[Vibrant General] danr238:
Count me in too.
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
All we have to do now is plan the day, and make similar threads in epic, fascinate, captivate and international galaxy s rooms. So all galaxy s owners can message samsung/t-mobile the same day.

We should get other forums involved too, like androidforums.com, and maybe we can get tech sites like androidandme involved, I think those guys all use t-mobile.

I would organize this but i'm superbusy trying to juggle 50 things rightn now.
[Vibrant General] ZombieDude00:
I'm in . Lets flood then instead of these great forums
[Vibrant General] bb4ninja:
Count me in
[Vibrant General] kboater:
im in.

I agree we all need to do it the same day. Someone (not me just brought new baby home from hospital :) ) needs to start an official thread in all 4 (vibrant, epic, fascinate, captivate) forums to get everyone committed to a day. This or a lawsuite is the only way to get the attention necessary

Also to the Tmobile store manager on page 1 of this thread, so are you sure that it is Samsung holding this up? have they no given it to all the carriers?
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
Any volunteers to organize this? I think we should do this either the 30th or 31st, right before the year ends, let them hear our frustration.
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
Yeah after the new years whoknows? When they said froyo by end of year they meant the 31st

But I'm all in for c this!
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
No Froyo for any US Galaxy S phone in 2010, according to androidandme

Check out this article on androidandme.

http://androidandme.com/2010/12/pho...ones-in-the-u-s-will-see-android-2-2-in-2010/

Even androidandme thinks we should voice our opinions, with out wallets:

"I don’t see the situation improving any time soon until consumers start to demand (aka purchase) phones with the latest version of Android."

Here is some sad news, more reason to voice our opinion:

"Samsung hit their goal of becoming the top manufacture of Android phones in the U.S., so there is little reason for them to change their current strategy."

Ya, I guess from Samsung's perspective, why provide updates when idiots keep buying our product with outdated software.

"The number of upset customers is certainly growing, but I’m not sure if Samsung has received the message yet"

Maybe it is time Samsung recieved the message?

Another interesting thread:

http://androidandme.com/2010/12/pho...ng-me-to-update-my-operating-system-to-froyo/
[Vibrant General] DreamcastDC:
Let's not buy the Galaxy S 2, that is a great way to show Samsung that we want them to support there older models, from my experience with the Galaxy S Vibrant, I know I won't be getting a Samsung phone ever again.
[Vibrant General] HRodMusic:
Im down count me in! Its retarded not being able to update your phone!
[Vibrant General] EvilMonito13:
Why not just contact Samslug everday as often as you can beginning on the first of the month? Emails, phone calls, live chat... or all of the above. Whatever means suits you. Hells, hit up Tmo too. Tell them you're goin' to downgrade your plan for month or two. Cancel all together if you have the option to do so. Hit'em in the pockets. Even if we aren't going to get an official froyo update, why not just tell us so we can just move on... The bastids already gots my doe.

I have such a love/hate relationship with this phone; mainly due to it's support... or lack thereof.

I dunno, it was just a thought. I already feel as though I've been had. Bleh. -j
[Vibrant General] phrozenflame:
Make an app, that has count-down timer.

Timer should be centrally linked.

Then every week, it does a countdown towards preset time and date., like twice a day, (so it covers the globe)..that time your phone ting ting tings and you all hit samsung live support, twitter, facebook.

It can also ask you to select freinds with Galaxy S, when the timer ETA is like 30 mins, it'll also send out msgs to them.

Make sure big blogs cover it, while you're protesting on Samsung tweet, tag big blogs, your fav. android journalists and bloggers, and there you have it. A PR headache for Samsung. Angry customers, bad press = Less future customers. So yes, it does affect them.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
There's a better idea. Just stop buying Android smartphones.

Simple as that.

Android is too decentralized and disorganized as a platform. The user experience is crap.

I'm simply not going to buy another Android smartphone.

My next purchase will be a Blackberry Curve 3g + a Playbook, because I've realized that you simply cannot depend on a smartphone to replace a computer to any factorable degree, and Android simply is incapable of providing the user experience needed for someone who uses their phone seriously for business and pleasure.

YMMV as always, but for me... I'm through with it.

These gadgets are too expensive to buy into them on "faith" alone.
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
We should do what this guy says.

If we get the press to voice our opinions, then samsung will get a bad reputation, forcing them to help us out a little
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
well problem is, who is going to develop that app?

we also need someone to organize this national message samsung and tmobile thing.
[Vibrant General] briguydj32:
You guys complain too much. Its a phone... that's all it is... a phone. Android will ALWAYS be this way when you have dozens of equipment manufacturers and 4 big wireless carriers in the U.S. ... we saw it with the Clique, the original Droid, the Behold II, Vibrant, etc. Get over it, and realize you're talking about a cell phone. Its really not that big of a deal. Samsung and T-Mobile have no incentive to give us froyo. They wont make a dime out of it, and if u threaten to cancel, then cancel. Go to another carrier that will charge you out the azz for your monthly bill. But hey, at least you'll have Froyo, with no gaurentee you'll get gingerbread or any other updates for any other phone.

You bought the vibrant because you liked it out of the box, right? Stop *****ing.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
No. I brought the Vibrant because I wanted a new phone and I already had the best phone T-Mobile had to offer (HTC HD2). The G2 and the MyTouch 4g or HD7 weren't even in the press back then

I knew the phone was coming with 2.1 but Samsung said at the launch that FroYo was coming soon and T-Mobile said the same thing. They drug us along from September to October with basically a MediaHub/Task Manager update to November and look where we are.

Then they made these statements about the end of the year.

Buying a product isn't always about what it is out of the box.

If the potential is there and the company gives you their word that they will deliver in a certain time frame, sometimes you're willing to put up with the idiocies of the device in hopes that it will improve soon.

But they have, basically, lied to us.

So yes, we can ***** if we want.

Don't like it? GTFO.

EDIT: Yes, you are right. Android will always be like this. That's correct. That's why I'm going to upgrade to a better platform.
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
I think Android will improve with time, but the issue here isn't the platform, the issue here is having Samsung and T-Mobile provide upgrades and support to a new product.
[Vibrant General] icarianecho:
We have better support.

It's called XDA.

Nero v3 voodoo using XDA app
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Will XDA replace my phone if a ROM with a bug bricks my phone (the way the NAND HD2 ROM bricked a few of those phones?). Support encompasses more than JUST the update, and like I've said 10x already... Not everyone wants to take the risks and/or get into the perpetual upgrade treadmill that comes with using custom ROMs.

The issues are both the platform and the OEM/Carrier.

Unless you think the Samsung Focus will take 6-7 months to get a WP7 update...
[Vibrant General] HOLYOHDKAY:
HI,

Can i use bliss-os-yantra my pc without it formatting my data?
[Fascinate General] vegittoss15:
Anybody else experiencing pretty bad battery drain with blackhole 2.4? Known issue? I don't want to reflash back to an older version without confirmation because it's a bit of a hassle.

Don't mean to come off crass if it sounds like that, but it's been rather severe the past few days.

Running stupidfast 1.54 fwiw.

Thanks for your help guys.

Sent from my stupidfast DJ05
[Fascinate General] devistator18:
I noticed that when I first started using blackhole 2.4 I had awesome battery life, now it has really started to trail off. I can get through the day, but it's pretty low at night.
[Fascinate General] vegittoss15:
31% in about an hour... Can't be normal right?

Also I've turned off bln for now because I assumed that had something to do with it.

Sent from my stupidfast DJ05
[Fascinate General] ilogik:
If I dont use it overnight it will go from 100% to 45% in about 7 hours. If I am reading the news and just surfing the web it goes from 100% to about 60% in about an hour.
[Fascinate General] iceman1183:
Not sure if it will help, but try charging to full and wiping battery stats in "advanced" in clockworkmod

Sent from my ComaVolt Voodoo5 Blackhole Fascinate
[Fascinate General] vegittoss15:
I'll give it a shot when I get home.

Thanks.

Sent from my stupidfast DJ05
[Fascinate General] soba49:
31% per hour is too fast, when with display on and heavy use. I only burn battery like that if I leave bluetooth or wifi sharing on. Perhaps brightness is on full. Maybe something quirky in your kernel install. I've seen no battery life change, positive or negative, with blackhole 2.4.
[Fascinate General] vegittoss15:
I let my battery drain completely, and charged the phone while it was off to 100% and reset my battery stats. So I'll be testing the runtime now under average use as earlier today. I'll report back with the time in this thread when I can.
[Fascinate General] justinc101011:
try doing *22899 instead of *228 it helped me a ton when my battery was going fast. My battery would go randomly 5% every hour in standby until i did this. Now it goes maybe 1% every 2 to 3 hours.
[Fascinate General] vegittoss15:
Usage is much more acceptable now. Btw what's that *228 stuff?

Edit: I looked it up, why would I need to reprogram? Regardless I still tried it out, let's see if it makes a difference.

Sent from my stupidfast DJ05
[Fascinate General] ChrisDDD:
Of all the ROMs and kernels I tried, I consistently got the poorest battery life with StupidFast kernels and BlackHole ROMs. I tried them individually so as to eliminate issues caused by the other (ROM or kernel), and the result was always the same. I can't imagine what the battery drain would be using them together.

I'd try swapping out the kernel since it's the easiest to do and see what difference that makes. Geeknik is no longer developing or supporting the StupidFast kernels, so they're a bit of a dead end at this point anyway.
[Fascinate General] soba49:
I get pretty good battery life pairing blackhole with jt 11/29 and a properly rejuvenated battery (sucked to death then overcharged while off once a month or less). Not sure what causes your issue, just want to add that not everyone had the same negative experience.

In terms of geeknik, he is absolutely still making kernels last time I checked, and people still love them religiously. I personally have not had a lot of luck pairing stupid fast 1.54 or 12/20 with black hole, so one may have better luck with super clean for those kernels. I have no idea why, or if my experience is isolated. Human nature prevents me from spending a lot of effort testing configurations that don't work well for me.

In terms of reprogramming your phone with *228 or *22899 (or *22800, whatever that does), you only should be concerned with that if you are getting a lot of signal loss in your standby mode battery stats. It resets the PRL, which is the list of local compatible towers the carrier authorizes your phone to use. More towers means less signal loss, especially relevant while traveling. Now if someone could explain to me why both phones and pdas are too dumb to manage their own PRLs, that would make my year!

Edit: Apparently I have no idea what I am talking about. The link in the next post indicates that geeknik no longer owns a Fascinate and its no longer developing kernels for it. My error.

Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.
[Fascinate General] ChrisDDD:
Oh, ok, perhaps something has changed since his latest post here.

Still, I consistently got lousy battery life with his kernels, and honestly, I saw no objective improvement in speed. To be fair, I don't see any speed increase in JT's kernels either. I suspect the majority of people's lag is in the ROM, not the kernel.
[Fascinate General] vegittoss15:
Well I'm not experiencing any issues after I did the battery stats wipe last night, so it's probably not the kernel and rom pairing.

Sent from my stupidfast DJ05
[Fascinate General] Powell730:
I have been having serious battery problems every since I got the phone.. the other day I installed Blackhole 2.4 running JT's 11/29 kerenel.. also running DJ05.. obviously... and I haven't been this happy with my battery to date! I am getting a good 16 hours of pretty heavy use where as before I would only get 10 hours maybe.. my battery would drop 30 percent at night before.. now it only dropped 11 percent.. still too much IMO but a lot better than what it used to be!
[Fascinate General] sonofskywalker3:
This is not something i've ever had issues with personally, however I do completly drain the battery and fully recharge it, then wipe battery stats from cwm recovery, every few weeks.
[EVO 4G Accessories] nuggyunlimited:
I just tried both and they work. I got the ipod touch 4g defender case $ 39.95 for $ 35.95 free shipping and no tax so saves about $ 10. The coupon code is:

tb1010y I just used it I think.it works on any product.

If that doesn't work try amcc1010b that one is just for 10% off but its better than nothing.

I would have gotten a case but my seidio rugged + holster gets the job done. Let me know if the coupon codes worked for you all.

Swyped from Eva my Mynion running Myn's RLS4.95!
[EVO 4G Accessories] nuggyunlimited:
Anyone got a chance to try it out?
[EVO 4G Accessories] mmegalodon:
Hey, good looking on posting those for future purchasers. Not sure if they still allow it, but otterbox was letting people input multiple discount codes. Got two cases for the price of one for the most part. Free shipping. Got here super quick.

Maybe if you find another you could update the OP so someone can have a chance at trying multiple ones? I didn't want to use too many, think I found 5 in as many minutes looking around. Didn't want them to cancel the order because I knocked most of it off. =/

Good looking out though. Maybe another otterbox thread here has some in it ... ill try to remember to hunt the thread down.

SWYPED from my SUPASONIC
[EVO 4G Accessories] nuggyunlimited:
Anytime bro and Yea I'll look for some more you can use that one twice with no problems.

I found one for seidio but it's on 10% I'll post if anyone wants it.
[Droid Incredible General] techobsessive:
Alright I posted this before in the development section and got laughed at, so ill try here.

Pretty much what I want in a ROM is the ability to create a new soft hey in-between the menu and back soft buttons. It would be invisible. And you could map this to whatever you wanted. What I would I would want to map or too is the launcher section part of Go Launcher. I was wondering what you guys think of this idea and if you'd want it implemented. I'm not a Dev so someone else would have to do it.
[Droid Incredible General] NewUserNeedsHelp:):
A soft key is still hardware. You would have to physically modify the phone to install it.
[Droid Incredible General] techobsessive:
I don't think so.. I could be wrong but that's part of the touch screen. Use any multi touch tester and you'll see.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m.zambonelli:
Hi, i was wondering is there is a way to overclock Desire Z but allowing him to still take official OTA upgrade and stuff (new kernel, firmware, software, sense upgrade)
[Gen8 Android Development] chrulri:
For building own custom stuff for my Gen8 Device I set up an Ubuntu 10.10 32bit Virtual Machine, so everything in here refers to it, may be different on other linux system.

[disclaimer]This is only a HowTo, if you brick your android device with some custom kernels or other stuff, don't blame me! I'm not responsible for anything you do![/disclaimer]

Notice: ** = you only have to do this step once

Prerequisites for Ubuntu 10.10 32 Bit: **

# sudo apt-get install git-core flex bison gperf libsdl-dev libesd0-dev libwxgtk2.6-dev build-essential zip curl automake autoconf libtool gettext texinfo libmpfr1ldbl

Prepare environment: **

# mkdir -pv $HOME/{archos,bin}
# echo export ARCHOS=\$HOME/archos >> ~/.bashrc
# echo export PATH=\$HOME/bin:\$PATH >> ~/.bashrc
# cd $HOME/archos
# wget -Oavos_env.tgz http://archos-gen8-dvb.googlecode.com/files/avos_env_20110415.tgz
# tar xzf avos_env.tgz
# install -m755 cross $HOME/bin/
# rm -f cross avos_env.tgz
RESTART CONSOLE OR REBOOT COMPUTER!

Toolchain: **

# cd $ARCHOS
# make all

Configure kernel:

# cd $ARCHOS
# make kernel-config

Restore kernel config:

# cd $ARCHOS
# make kernel-reset

Build kernel:

# cd $ARCHOS
# make kernel-build

CrossCompile: (this is just an example for if you want to build some linux libraries or tools)

# echo $ARCHOS
# cd ..xyz../..zyx../
# cross make
[Gen8 Android Development] jbradshw:
I followed your instructions, and I got all the way to the end, but when I did 'make kernel-build' it ended with this:

drivers/built-in.o: In function `archos_dpm_suspend':

/home/zyntax/archos/gen8-gpl-froyo/linux/drivers/usb/storage/archos_hdd.c:261: undefined reference to `usbsata_power'

make[3]: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1

make[2]: *** [sub-make] Error 2

make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/zyntax/archos/gen8-gpl-froyo/linux'

make[1]: *** [/home/zyntax/archos/gen8-gpl-froyo/buildroot//linux/arch/arm/boot/zImage] Error 2

make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/zyntax/archos/gen8-gpl-froyo/buildroot'

make: *** [kernel-build] Error 2

zyntax@john-ubuntu:~/archos$

This is on a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.10 32-bit in Virtualbox. I installed it, updated the OS, then started your steps. Not sure if this is normal and I'm holding off on the last step. I did do one extra step: in 'make kernal-config' I deselected all the Archos boards under System Type except for the A101IT since that's what I have.
[Gen8 Android Development] chrulri:
can you please try again without modifying kernel config?
[Gen8 Android Development] jbradshw:
Did that, now I get this:

CC [M] drivers/usb/musb/omap2430.o

/home/zyntax/archos/gen8-gpl-froyo/linux/drivers/usb/musb/omap2430.c:221: warning: 'omap_phy_read' defined but not used

LD [M] drivers/usb/musb/musb_hdrc.o

LD drivers/built-in.o

make[2]: *** [sub-make] Error 2

make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/zyntax/archos/gen8-gpl-froyo/linux'

make[1]: *** [/home/zyntax/archos/gen8-gpl-froyo/buildroot//linux/arch/arm/boot/zImage] Error 2

make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/zyntax/archos/gen8-gpl-froyo/buildroot'

make: *** [kernel-build] Error 2

I don't believe I changed anything besides what I mentioned earlier. Is there anyway to get back a default kernel-config?
[Gen8 Android Development] chrulri:
hehe, I thought you should try with default kernel-config ;)

I added a section for restoring kernel config in the start posting :
[Gen8 Android Development] jbradshw:
Well I did poke around in the config, but as far as I remember I only removed those extra archos systems. I'll restore the default and run it again later tonight.

Thanks. :)