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[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] G3n:
Yes, I tried that :/ That's what I meant by long pressing the power button. It changes the blinking pattern to just the burning power led..

Thanks for the tip though!
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hamzer11:
Give it another shot. Disconnect the plug. Hold down the power button for a little over 10 seconds. I would do like 15 in my head. Wait a few seconds after that and press the power button quickly once. If you get the steady green light just wait. Dont keep pressing it. You should eventually see the Archos splashscreen. I have had this happen on several occassions when the system has been idle for a while with the screen off. Hope it works.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] G3n:
Ok; I did that.

Except that when I push the power button that last time to have it boot up; the power light just flashes once. I didnt touch it to be sure and it doesnt start.

When I plugged in the power supply after that, the *blink blink longpause* resumed.

When I hold down the power btn now, it reverts to continuous burning green power led.

Its been charging for more than 24 hours now.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] strongergravity:
This sounds like what happened to mine. it happened after about 3 days, too. I finally got my replacement the Tuesday before Christmas.

If you get it powered up, get your stuff off & clean up your personal info (something I wasn't able to do.

From my post on AchosFans Forum:

For several days my Archos wouldn't take a charge. I didn't think anything about it the first day...stuff happens. After using it the next time, not really thinking there was a problem I plugged it in (and of course it turned itself on again). So this morning it only had 8%. I messed around a few minutes before work resetting it & such - checked setting>about>battery stats and it said "charging" and 0% battery. When I came home this evening it still said "charging" & 0% battery. It then shut down (with a not-normal screen flicker) the first time I unplugged it (hoping to cycle it or get lucky) and it is now a brick. When I plug it in now the charging light did a fast-double-blink and it it remained dead.

I called Archos & they told me to send it back. She didn't ask for much info before telling me to send it, which I took to mean that it is a known issue.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pwhooftman:
Same happened to me

The same has happened to me after the archos 101 drained its battery fully. I think the firmware has a flaw where it lets the archos drain its battery too far. In that state, hooking it up to the charger wont make it start charging all the time.

I had the blink-blink-blink problem also, even after it had been on the charger for hours. Finally it started working (and charging! )again after lots of 15-second Powerbutton presses, some in combination with Volume Up or Volume Down, and some with and some without the charger connected. Suddenly it turned on (showing 0% charge in the Settings, Information panel indicating it had fully drained and hadn't been charging in the previous hours) . I advice you to keep trying pressing the Power button 15 seconds with the charger connected, and experiment with pressing it in combination with the volume button, followed by a short Power press to boor the Archos.

In the mean time (till a new firmware comes), i make a habit of not fully draining the Archos (i will install Tasker to let it shutdown at 10%) , and checking if the green led comes on after plugging in the charger. Only when the green led is on, it's really charging. And it should start blinking after a few hours to indicate its full.

My wife has a chinese android iPad clone (a Flytouch II) and guess what? It's also picky at charging and turning on.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] G3n:
The Gravity reply had me scared (tnx though) but I'm glad to report that pwhooftman's post helped!

I plugged it in, put a movie on and started trying to reset/start it. It happened reasonably quickly after that.. I pressed the power button while it was off power, the power led flashed once as before. I plugged in the power. The green light lighted up. I pushed the power and + for 15 seconds, and pressed the power button once shortly. Unlike the other times, the blinking pattern didnt start and the green light kept burning. Hopeful, I put it down and waited - as the FAQ said it would start when it d charged more. Finally after a while, I pressed the power button and it booted. Not exactly exact science, but Im just happy that it works again :/

I guess the "blink blink longpause" means something like "I know I've got power but I cant seem to load my battery" - Archos should have this info in their manuals.

Thanks guys :)
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] strongergravity:
Nice to know I can scare people...and it isn't Halloween!:)

I tried everything I could think of to get it to take a charge, with no luck. The problem I had with mine was the times it wouldn't take a charge BEFORE I had drained it - that is why it got drained in the first place.

I hope it was only mine!
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] G3n:
He s at it again. Drained to 3% and now it wont charge anymore. *sigh*

except he wont even do the blinking anymore now.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d31b0y:
Seems to be a fairly common issue with these tablets :/

Same thing was happening to me too. Dunno if this will work for people, but here is how I fixed mine.

Hold your finger on the power button for 10 seconds while the blinky light is on. This should stop the light completely.

Then plug the charger in. This gave me a continuous light rather than a blinky light. Leave it like that for a couple of hours and then try powering it on again.

Hope this works for others.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hamzer11:
Had this happen to me once so far. Seems to have to do with it going into a sleep state or something. If I leave it for long and the screen turns off. Sometimes it won't come back up without first holding down the power to shut it down (even though I can't see anything on the screen) and then waiting to boot back up. I had to plug it in, get the steady light and then power on and it worked.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheTen:
OK, I know this sounds weird...

But what's the temperature of the A101 like?

I had an identical problem a short while ago, and a forum post suggested that the tablet could be too cold. I thought it was a total shot in the dark, but I wrapped the Archos in a quilt for a few minutes, and amazingly enough, it popped back into life with the charger plugged in, and has been pretty fine since then.

To be fair, it could be one of three things: (i) temperature is the issue, (ii) coincidence, (iii) a bad connection in the pins/socket of the adapter input on the Archos 101 which just needs 'jiggling.'

I have also noticed that if I charge the Archos while it is in standby, I never get more than 92-94% battery. If I shut it down, plug in, then shut it down again when it restarts on power supply insertion, I can usually get 98% battery, at the least, sometimes 100% battery.

I agree, we shouldn't have 'quirky' devices, or have to wait for firmware to fix them, but other device makers have had similar problems in the past with battery reporting, until appropriate firmware fixes.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] waz000000:
it happened to me last night frustrated the heck out of me couldn't get it to turn on no matter what i did, so i took it back to pc world and the guy said

"what would you like to do, out of curiosity do you like it?" I replied no and he said "then ill refund you"

i then paid the extra on a galaxy tab and not looking back the archos was a complete pile of sh!te! I almost cried when i turned it on and spent the next two months convincing myself i actually liked it.

its woefully made, cheap and tacky, screen is pathetic and the memory appalling.

i know its cheaper than tab and iphone but for 270 it should still be fit for purpose and this is not it's the worst gadget ive ever owned by a long long shot, i didn't even show it off at work because i was so embarrassed at how bad it was.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] strongergravity:
So, how did the story end?!? Did it survive?
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Merken_:
Ok...

I kid you not, i've tried warming the archos up with a hot water bottle for several seconds and that did the trick appearently...

Had the same problem.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SenKat:
HERE is the FIX ! I am on my second A-70/250 - my wife has the 8gb version, and I thought the 250gb one was simply defective - evidently, this IS a known issue, but it can be fixed, and I sent back my other one without reason :(

Anyways, no more pity party for me, here is the fix - if you have the flashy-power light dealio going on, plug your Archos into the power adapter, plug the adapter into the wall, and plug in the USB CABLE to the Archos, and to your PC - the Archos WILL pwoer up, when it does, it asks if you wish to mount the USB to copy files, select, "YES" and let it sit and charge ! Now - the REASON it does this is VERY simple, and it kills me to admit that I was killing my tablet all by myself ! Disable the "never off" screen thingy - set it for 10 minutes - (settings - display - screen timeout). Go into your power settings as well - (settings - power management) and make sure there is a checkmark in the deep sleep area ! THAT IS IT ! You are fixed ! Dang... I REALLY wish I would have found all this out before I returned the other one - I had SO much stuff loaded on it ! GAH !! - SenKat !
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anhchec:
I got the same problem yesterday, it kept blink blink and could not turn on. After 5 hour charging, I warmed it up by hair dryer and suddenly it's on. Crazy amazing! Hahahahahuahuahuahua.

Temperature is main problem. Try with your hair dryer!!! Heheheheheh
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pwhooftman:
Its sounds unbelievable, but low temperatures are indeed a cause.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TjaXanK:
my a70 had this same problem, left it rest a whole night, then plugged it in to usb and power (usb 1st) and it booted up, hope this helped
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] htarget:
Fix double blink archos 101

sencat is exactly right... don't bother with all the other things like wrapping it in a blanket.

Just plug in the power and then plug in the usb to the computer and push the power button and it will come on. Then in settings go to the about device and power setting and put the check mark by the deep sleep.

Then it should power off completely and charge when necessary.

Good luck
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
you are the best TjaXanK ....i follow all the tips of the other guys but it didnt happen anything...with your awsome way i solve my problem in a minute
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TjaXanK:
if you have this problem on the G9, best way seems to be to leave it plugged in to the power for a while and it reset's itself, I haven't had this problem personally but i know of a person that has had the problem on the A80 G9
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] duckredbeard:
My neighbor had problems charging his until he realized he was plugging the power cord into the headphone jack.

My last Intruder was a Grumman A-6E.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diablo009:
+1

It is very easy to be confused. I stuck mine into that y'day and was wondering why the charging light didn't turn up.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Annabis:
I got the 101 G9 on Thursday the 8th and by Saturday the 10th I was having issues with the screen not turning back on after it timed out.

I called Archos tech support for assistance with that and also the buttons near the edge of the screen weren't responding to my touch with ease (not sure if anyone else experiences this problem). Their tech support rep failed to resolve the issue and ever since I have been dealing with the same bs as everyone else.

My screen will not turn on, the light will blink, if I plug it into the charger it is solid green for a few seconds then the light shuts off. WTF Archos?
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] It's The Wolf:
Maybe it's a co-incidence but I tried to put my A7o-250 on a hot water bottle (had one on my back as it was sore) for a few mins and it fired up after sitting there doing nothing no matter what I did, after being 'on charge' over night...

It's now taking a charge and has switched on...

Picked up a USB 'charge and sync' cable so might need to use that next time...

Thanks to all that replied on here though, I was at the point of seeing how many bits it would break into when hurled at the wall... :mad:
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FrEcP:
Also just had this problem some days ago - after having no power plug near since I was in holiday my device ran out of battery completely...

For me having it pugged in for 2 days just DIDN'T load the device...

For me i had to use the long power press WHILE plugged in to make it charge again.

Im not sure which combination it was but it seemed like:

Out of Power -> plug in ac-adapter -> green light -> power press -> blink blink -> LONG power press (15s) -> green light again -> LET IT CHRAGE SOME MINUTES -> power press -> turned on

So it seems like just plugin it in wont load the device propper - u 1st have to try to turn it on and then reset it to make it charge... After that i was able to get it to work again.

Also I noticed doing that procedure WITHOUT being plugged in DIDN'T work!

Hope that helpes some ppl here and perhaps someone can confirm...
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elim:
Okay, first my thanks to all and some new ideas and to see that my son is not allone. He came yesterday with his new tablet (Archos 80 G9) and was sad because it didn't restart.

So I try some things, read the documentation (it is different discribed in different languages!) but nothing helps.

When I plug it on the power charger, the green light binks-blinks-pause for some time. I reset and plug it again. Same but sometimes the led light but later it goes out. Until now the tablet didn't boot. No Archos logo...

So I will try:

- another button-charger-button sessions

- plug to a PC

- boot into bootloader

- warm the device up (hair dryer)

Hopefully I can make my son happy... :D
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FrEcP:
Did u try the above? While turn on and reset leave it plugged in - do not: "reset and plug it again"

For me it really didnt charge until i tried to turn it on - while plugged in - and reset (after) - but the power cord had to be plugged in all the time

Then w8 for chrage some minutes - and try again.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cyber9940:
Same here, but my a70 fully drained the batteries after one month without charging.

Tried the USB plug trick but with no joy.

Measured the temp of the back metallic cover of my a70: 11 degrees Celsius ( my home is extremely cold... plz don ask:D)

Heated the unit with an hair dryer. Just a little, to make the A70 feel cozy...

Plugged in and voila!. Booted.

Definitively is an low temperature issue...

BTW : My FW is 2.3.26
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] philocritus:
Same here.

I tried charging it but it wouldn't startup :(

After a little heating it booted...

I'm guessing we won't be using our archos on the north pole... :-D

It was the coldest day of the year in Europe so I guess it's only normal the archos would froze up
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msiviter:
OK are we talking about G9 or G8 devices?

I'm having the problem on my G9 A80.

For a while xda didn't have G9 specific forums so I think people posted G9 issues here.

It seems that some of the solutions on this thread pertain to G8 and other devices.

I'll try the heating option on my G9 and report back. I'm using the supplied 1.5A charger and cable.

Matt
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mavasilisk:
It's a low temperature issue. Just place the device to a hot place or make it warm somehow and it will start charging.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spongewardk:
Just replace the usb cable

When i got my archos device it had a faulty cable and would not charge. It did the same blinking pattern. When i bought a replacement it ran fine :)
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cscott0108:
Just a word of advice

So reading this, I tried to find a solution to my problem, but nothing worked...partly, because I'm an idiot, and partly, it's been a few months since I had to worry about this. But not once did I see this mentioned in the article so I thought I'd help. I got this from Archos's own website, just in case it's needed.

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The ARCHOS will turn on and start charging. The battery icon will animate a blue “filling” action with a lightning bolt and the power/charge indicator light will remain solid. When not plugged into a power adapter, the battery icon will display the amount of battery power available.

IMPORTANT: When the battery is completely empty and you plug in your device,

- The charging indicator light will turn on then start to blink within few seconds. The indicator light blinking rapidly means that the device is charging but does not yet have enough power to start. This charging when off may take some time. Once the device has charged enough to start, it will switch on and display the ARCHOS boot logo.

- If the charging indicator does not blink after few seconds, it could mean that the battery is over discharged.

1. Plug out the power supply.

2. Press 10 seconds on the On/Off button for a hardware reset.

3. Plug in the tablet to the power supply.

After a certain period (few minutes or one hour), the charging indicator starts blinking.

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I know that some of you may actually have issue and I'm not belittling it, but it is an actual message from the tablet saying low battery for some.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dyverse:
Hmm, this is interesting thread i have never had this problem and i run my device down frequently and never had a recharge issue. I wonder if its temp calculator is a lil off or if its just a slight wire issue that the heat fixes explained just expands the connections to touch. Much symapthies though
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blackbeasst:
sigh. i too am getting this on my 80 g9. i've tried warming with a hair dryer to no avail. just get the blink blink pause while plugged into wall.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuyKhmel:
Sorry for re-posting that.

Just had the same problem - blinking green light.

I did just what they said.

Hardware reset and replugged the power.

Few minutes later, the startup screen appeared and started charging.

It really saved me.

So thanks :)
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bizcuite:
I must add that if you do like me, install a bad initramfs and you tab crash with no reset enable (10 secondes doesn't worked).

You must drain all the battery and plug the charger (the tab doesn't react, no led , no blink, nothing). After 30 minutes to 1h of charge my tab reboot alone and you can go to the recovery to change the kernel and initramfs.

I thank that my tab was dead before this.

Bizcuite.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nuggyunlimited:
Great post.will thank you when I get on the computer.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DRUMSBH:
Nice Work! Thanked!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 33colburn:
Thank you. I have been looking for a laymans term definition for lots of these acronyms. This is a great post. I have bookmarked for myself and others for future reference. Thanks is given!!!!!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VisedMonk:
Great post. Thanks much for compiling all this info from various sources.

Questions to satisfy my curiosity --

1. What type of governor (conservative/smartass/etc.) do you prefer or recommend? I seem to have the best luck with smartass. Plus I like saying I have a smartass governor.

2. What kernel or kernels do you use? ms's SBC thread is hot right now. I've tried those out, and while I do like the true 100% charge of SBC, I get quick battery drain once the battery falls from 100%. I'm not sure I get any more battery life that without the trickle charge.

For the last few days I've been using Ziggy's BETA Kernel Evo CFS 19 Dec 10 (2.6.32.27-ck2) with Calkulin's EViO 2 rom. I get the initial 4 or 5% drop right off the charger, then everything calms down and I get GREAT battery life. I don't use SetCPU or anything like that, only OS Monitor to change the governor from conservative to smartass.

Screenshot attached. 25 minutes of voice calls, 25 texts or so, light web browsing (xda), some facebook, 10 or so emails. About 5 hours of this time was on 3G while driving on the highway.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roscoenr:
Great write up. I learned a lot. One thing I noticed that you did not have what SBC stands for SBC=superior battery charging
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mroneeyedboh:
I so far used conservative. I'm mainly using text and web. So a CFS kernel is where it's at for me. I never see the use on stuff like SetCPU when using specific kernels, because the kernels determine what and how to set the cpu's speed etc.

On the screen shots, I'm sill learning on whats what. But it seems good.

On the SBC kernels, I'm new to this stuff. So I myself am messing with them, trying to find what works best for me.

Thanks man. And yeah I did forget that, huh lol. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] netarchy:
Just a few comments/corrections for ya ;D

Mostly correct, though it's worth pointing out that while CFS does attempt to be more fair with respect to all running processes, the mainline kernel devs have implemented some ideas that originated with BFS into CFS.

CFS is the default in the mainline linux kernel, BFS is a 3rd party scheduler that must be patched in.

Variations tend to focus more on HAVS/No-HAVS, a number are incorporating SBC, and many, while they may include the smartass governor, also often include other governors as well, such as conservative, ondemand, powersave, etc.

NoHAVS/Non-HAVS = Static Voltage Scaling ;D Just sayin'

Caveat: The mV ranges quoted here are only guaranteed accurate/valid in reference to my kernel builds using the HAVS-more voltage table.

Other HAVS implementations might have a greater range of possible voltage values for any given speed, or a lesser range. The main concept to convey with regard to HAVS is that it dynamically scales the voltage supplied to the cpu at any given speed, erring on the side of lowest power draw, in an effort to enhance power saving.

Pretty accurate here.

This is potentially worded in a confusing manner using %'s. HAVS dynamically sets the amount of power supplied to the cpu at any given speed based on factors like load and battery temperature.

When not using HAVS, Static voltage scaling is used. Static undervolting is simply setting these static voltage values at a lower level than the stock default.

For example: The stock default voltage for the 998mhz setting is 1300mV.

If the static voltage table is altered so that the setting for 998mhz is 1275mV, then whenever the cpu scales to 998mhz on the phone, the power supplied will be 1275mV instead of 1300mV.

It's also worth noting that the static undervolting example you've used at 245mhz is only guaranteed valid as an example referencing one of my static undervolting kernel builds. Another kernel builder might well alter the table in their particular kernel to set the values higher or lower (in other words, it's worth pointing out that it's an example, and not a given truth for all kernels ;D).
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mroneeyedboh:
Thanks for the clarifications. Maybe we can get this stickied?