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[A7 Android Development] mhill10255:
Is there a better way to run apps from my sdcard to save on internal memory? Thanks for the quick reply!
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
you could manually use the "old" way of having apps on sdcard, used on pre-2.2 roms... having a 2nd partition on sdcard, and at every boot, mount the 2nd partition at /data/app.. you need to format the partition as ext3, but that should do it.

i could add support for it, since it does not look like we can get it fixed, so if a checkfile is found on sdcard, it will try and mount the 2nd partition automatically..ill look into this, but until then you can try the suggested way out.
[A7 Android Development] ninetoes49:
That would be great if you did that. I had that working following one of the guides but after updating havent been able to make it work again. card is still formated with fat 32 and ext 2 partitions. running 1.41 now with adhoc fix

thanks bill
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
i will see if i can make another small patch update to include it..

but this weekend i got time for it.. doing some travelling this week.
[A7 Android Development] Regis St-gelais:
Thanks for the info.

I had to revert to mod1.2

I'm using this tablet for software development and I cant afford to loose on-device debugging capability.

Note: I have written to elocity about there removal of adb in there latest rom. I will post there answer (If I ever get one)

EDIT: 2011/05/13 still no answer from eLocity.
[A7 Android Development] immortalsoule:
Has there been any development with the Clockwork Recovery mod on the A7? I've got it on my Galaxy Tab and my Deall Streak 5 and it's really helped operations quite a bit. Soemone mentioned it about 70 pages ago, back in March, but i haven't seen anything really since.
[A7 Android Development] immortalsoule:
By the way, if you haven't seen it, LCD Density is a killer app to get the most out of your display on any Android tablet. Sometimes it takes a full power off and reboot.
[A7 Android Development] racesurg:
Latest firmware April 17, 2011

Hi Dexter. There's an official firmware update at the Elocity website, released April 17, 2011. Maybe it's time for another ElocityMod update? :D
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
ill check and see if i got time this weekend for a bigger update..

maybe not much changed, and it can be done using a patch :-)
[A7 Android Development] racesurg:
Thanks Dexter. A new ROM would be great, but a patch even better. Maybe Stream TV should make you their CEO. ;)
[A7 Android Development] immortalsoule:
Hey guys, KennyPC just did a stand-alone Market add-on for the new April 17th, 2011 Elocity ROM update and it's GREAT. I'm sure he will fill in the details but he's managed to finally do what wasn't done before, filter in ALL of the apps i paid for on the "My Apps" list.

I had to do a wipe before changing the name to upgrade.zip and flashing it but, after that and enabling network, clicked on Market and it went smooth as SILK!

Kenny, you are the KING, dude!

Here's his link:

http://modmymobile.com/forums/668-e...-android-market-patched-plus-google-apps.html
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
two posts in one page from you that has nothing to do with this thread.

I am disappoint.
[A7 Android Development] tumpy:
I am with you on that, this thread should only be about Dexter mod, if I have anything to say about the factory rom I know where to post..
[A7 Android Development] plgoulet:
Hi, I just bought the same one. How did you get it to work?
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
9 posts and able to post in the dev section? I though you needed 10 to avoid questions like this cluttering up the development threads. Read the thread (start at the beginning) all your questions will be answered.
[A7 Android Development] immortalsoule:
Which has been done here, numerous times before, and no one has complained until now. And, if the Market mod has nothing to do with A7 ROM development (in your eyes)...perhaps you should have said "I am blind".

But hey, no problem, if there's going to be hater chat laid down when someone tries to throw in some helpful information, then so be it. Do and say whatever you feel you have to.
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Only thing being said is that before someone decides to ask something they might want to try and look at the forums and see if it hasn't been answered already.

Evo wanna bring you signature back? lol
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
REQUEST - SDCARD setup

Can i get some feedback, on the "old" way of handling sdcard in /mnt comparing to the stock version with /storage used?

if less to none, actually found it helpful, i would prefer not doing all the smali changes to change the path and make it map to the /mnt/sdcard, since the stock handler does much better with /storage as native location. but let me know..

if you did not know.. old "Gameloft" games as example, did not like /storage as storage for game data, so they failed downloading.. it might be fine now in new HD edition.. but thats for us to find out, maybe even those with stock roms already knows ?
[A7 Android Development] tumpy:
hey dexter it still handle same way with games like Asphalt5, i test it out today and revert back to your mod, i call elocity again today and tell them about certain games that need to download additional file to sdcard and they rom doesnt see the card, also on their new rom no adobe flash..
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
thanks,

i got d.hunter2 HD and some desertstorm FPS game, ill install the stock rom /system and do some tests too on that.. i don't think /storage is a good preference..
[A7 Android Development] bazbob:
Hey Dexter,

I really don't care how it's mounted but I really just want to be able to boot the A7 with the mico SD card in the tablet with the alternate vold handler installed and not hanging when it goes to mount it. I vote that stock way to handle the SD card to be the default. If others need the special considerations they can do an add on update.

thanks,

Bob
[A7 Android Development] tumpy:
A question was ask and this is your answer, there is a reason he ask that specific question. You need your problem solve so do many of us.. we need ours to..
[A7 Android Development] bestialbub:
i think bob was requesting both options being available to users for sdcard handling, so both gamers and non gamers can enjoy the improvements of dexters rom, w dependable services being the default option w performance improvements being the optional update.

thats usually a standard i see promoted in rom development, as devs dont want to spend all day answerig questions or repeating the same repetitive statement to read hundreds of posts to find the answer. the more sensible option is usually to supply dependable services as rom defaults, w the experimental alpha stuff being an option for the more technical minded users needing less hand holding. it makes for a cleaner thread, w more happy users and less repeated troubleshooting discussions.

your statement sounds like the usual reiteration that you just want your games to work w indifference to the rest of the less vocal non gamers.

the gamers are just the most vocal in the forums, but may not be an accurate representation of the rest of the users enjoying dexters rom. ;)

my 2 cents.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
thats not possible, programing wise.. symlinks do not help and cannot be the easy fix to having AndroidOS finding /storage free space and at the same time report back to apps that its /mnt/sdcard .. so sadly a no go on that one..

and remember that the vold handler is hardcoded to use /storage, which is the stupid part of all this.. the developers here, were really no good.
[A7 Android Development] bestialbub:
..is the reported free storage space an issue for apps/games looking to put data there, or just an aesthetic feature for user reports? if the latter, i wouldnt consider it to be as big a concern as required restarts for vold to detect media.

otherwise, i might experiment w hex edit manipulations (documented alot that other folks couldnt be bothered to find in the framework). the mount locations are in plain texts in the binaries..

not suggesting abnormal lengthy work for you, just that other out of the box solutions could be possible (to make up for a lack of proper source). ;)
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
v1.42 update available

- updates with changes of 17-04 elocityA7 update

- fixed sdcard remount problem.. sdcard can be ejected/inserted as wanted now.

See Post #1 for the update.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
bigger part, apps do not download/install as previously stated. so not a nice to have, but need to have for those using game apps and problably other 2.1 based apps still using /mnt/sdcard from framework.

you need to change the services and framework to get it working, next is the vold which has hardcoded and positioning added to where to put mount. not as easy as its laid out.. lastly the vold.fstab is not even correct and not used, but will be used to make it work, so it has to be created (as i did) so thats why i consider if new apps actually work better now on tablets..

I got no problems changing framework and smali code, but with the other changes taking place, it becomes a bigger task, than just binary edit's.
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Is the 1.42 flashable w/o wipe and the link doesn't seem to be working for it.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
link is ok now, bad upload simply..

as i tried a few times, and Browser has a changed signature, it might require it.. i did not recompile it..

signed it, so it should not be need to do a wipe. (re-uploaded patch)
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
It does require a wipe im guessing mount is same requiring you to re insert sdcard.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
sdcard should be just fine.. i can remove/insert as often as i want now.. no problems here...thats why no alternate patch exists in list now.. its not needed..
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Wha I was meaning was does it load card from the start, also I was able to download 1.42 from here iwth my a7 copy it to my sdcard rename and flash it.

1.42 if you try about debug however my hulu still works by unclicking mobile view under browser settings.
[A7 Android Development] smallba:
Works great, I can use the standard browser in desktop mode with having to have to use about:debug every restart and the sdcard works functions how it show now.

Remember people flash it as a Patch, no need to wipe
[A7 Android Development] bazbob:
Thank you Dexter!
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Mine doesn't mount initially when I boot my a7 up is that how it is suppose to be?
[A7 Android Development] smallba:
Mines mounts when I boot, and I can unmount and remount with no errors or having to reset my device. Did you flash 1.42 over 1.41?
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Yes I did but I also had vold on my 1.41 would that make a difference
[A7 Android Development] smallba:
Hmm maybe... but seeing as your SDcard is not mounting at all, I would wipe and re-flash 1.41 and flash 1.42 to see if that fixes it, but I know you don't want to lose everything

Just my thoughts on it
[A7 Android Development] droidflix:
I flashed 1.42 over 1.41 without wiping and I had vold on mine also

and im not having any problems.It sucks but you might need to wipe and reinstall,

but then again now my usb is saying checking for errors again and I cant access

it so I might need to wipe as well.
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
I did wipe re installed 1.41 and flashed 1.42 over and all is well. I also use titanium back up so I just have to install it after the wipe and use my backups of the apps I had to restore them app and data.
[A7 Android Development] jimmcghee:
sdcard working??

I see people posting that after 1.41/1.42 the sdcard is working but on mine it is still not mounting the sdcard in /sdcard. I thought the whole point of the changes was to get the system to mount the sdcard in the proper place so programs that wrote to the sdcard would actually write to the sdcard.

Am I missing something here? :confused:

Thanks,

Jim
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
That is not the point, nor what elocitymod does.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
yes.. /storage is stock position.. and your /sdcard is the old 1.6/2.1 standard.

2.2/3.0 uses /mnt/sdcard . this is for greater support of application, not because its easier :-)
[A7 Android Development] jimmcghee:
OK, I guess I wasn't clear.

Its not mounting it in /mnt/sdcard either. Its mounting it in /mnt/sdcard/sdcard-disk which causes programs (appbak, titanium backup, adw_launcher, etc) to store info in main memory instead of on the sdcard. I thought the sdcard fix was to fix this problem but its still mounting the sdcard in /mnt/sdcard/sdcard-disk on my A7. Did I install something wrong? What did the fix fix?

Can I just unmount it and remount it in the correct place?:confused:
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
/mnt/sdcard/sdcard-disk is correct for all current A7 roms.
[A7 Android Development] jimmcghee:
Whose version of 'correct'?

This is obviously a version of the term 'correct' with which I am not currently familiar. :D

Every software app on every version of Android I use expects the sdcard to be mounted on /mnt/sdcard. So are you saying the A7 does not run Android?

Or are you saying every other installation of Android is wrong and the A7 installation is right?
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
you need to move with new tech standard in 2011 :-)

Tablets has 2 storage options, the internal part becomes /mnt/sdcard (translated with your chosen words), and the secondary which is removable, becomes /mnt/sdcard/"something" , on Atrix4G is /mnt/sdcard-ext on Optimus2x is /mnt/sdcard/Removable etc... alot of ppl don't know what is up and down anymore, because it was a simple case before with just 1 sdcard..

If you rephrase your Q here, if your "external" sdcard is /mnt/sdcard .. what would internal storage become if it 64GB, and your sdcard is just 2GB.. im sure 99% want apps to install at the 64GB location, and 2.2 is born with just one external storage location..
[A7 Android Development] netstat_EVO:
I am soooooo obviously saying the a7 doesn't run android. AND that every other android device is wrong... are you simple or something?

Now how about stuffing your attitude and going back and reading the thousands of posts that have already dealt with this.

Edit: I feel like you may not pick up on the sarcasm... there are not thousands of posts about it, probably more like a hundred.
[A7 Android Development] touchpr02:
FB for Android

Facebook for Android, is not updating with this ROM, any ideas?
[A7 Android Development] tumpy:
try super manager and load it in system app folder..
[A7 Android Development] mmuzzy:
Perhaps if you took his statement in its full context of 'for all current A7 roms' instead of twisting it to your meaning of saying that it isn't android because of it. ;)
[A7 Android Development] 855Elm:
I have installed new Dexter rom 1.42...and I was hoping that SD card will now be recognized at boot time...but at least on my device I need to take it out and put it back in to work...Is there fix for that? I agree it is not a big deal but the other day my wife was going to show some photos that were stored on SD card to a friend and could not do it ( I wasn't around) and of course it was my fault...

..and I do not see much difference compared to 1.41 with patches

Nevertheless I commend Dexter for hard work ...

Regards
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
If you had the vold flashed like I did I just did wipe then flashed 1.41 then 1.42 works great now. Also used titanium back up to back up all the apps I added. So once you start fresh just get to market download titanium and then restore all the apps you backed up.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
if you installed the "alternate" handler, thats why now.. you need to restore (which sadly i did not make another patch for)

btw,

there is primarily just some wifi fixes and BT driver updates in it.
[A7 Android Development] tumpy:
Dexter how soon will we see what you have cooking from latest. .A7 kernel?, looking foward to your next project...
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
EloBlur...
[A7 Android Development] 855Elm:
So I guess there is no "shortcuts"...I tried to avoid wiping all the installed apps and settings...I understand that there is Titanium Backup and all that...anyway thanks for the hint...so I need first go back to 1.41 without any patches and then install 1.42 on the top that...

Regards
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Yup wipe 1.41 then 1.42 and works great!
[A7 Android Development] bazbob:
Umm, I'm getting FC's on using "about:debug" Settings in the browser in 1.42. Anyone else seeing this?
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Yes I get those to but the firstoption under setting mobile mode uncheck and your desktop. Setting stays that way even after you turn your tablet off.
[A7 Android Development] bazbob:
Took me a minute to understand what you meant. So no more need to use the "about:debug" to change between mobile and desktop because it's in the regular settings menu now. Thanks.
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Sorry for not explaining it better.
[A7 Android Development] hextor_dark:
help

hi Dexter,

Thanks for the patch. but I have a problem, install the mod 1.42 (from mod 1.41 c / xpad) and now I not open the internet browser.

some solution?
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
I had browser issue also required me to do the wipe and re-flash. Never tested patching x-pad after fresh 1.41 and 1.42.
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Browser changed signature....
[A7 Android Development] hextor_dark:
help to restore

wipe cache partition in boot menu. Select that option is necessary to restore??
[A7 Android Development] 855Elm:
I followed your advice and wiped all data and apps, install first 1.41 full rom and then patch 1.42 ( used Titanium backup to restore the apps and it worked very well) ....SD and USB work fine now ...the only glitch I found would be that if you take out USB stick and then insert it again ... it will not be recognized...in other words you need to turn device off and on again to be able to use USB stick again...

Anybody else noticed that?

REgards
[A7 Android Development] okantomi:
It might be an unsafe removal error, but I couldn't tell you how to do a safe removal.
[A7 Android Development] bestialbub:
safe removal option is in the status bar drop down when media is plugged in. you have to scroll the menu down to see safely remove usb in landscape mode.
[A7 Android Development] onebaddog1:
Brick tablet

What are the signs of a "Brick Tablet"? And can a brick tablet be fixed?
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
it can be recovered using the reset button on its back, and using APX mode to restore partition if such "semi-brick" happens, but you should not be able to easily break it unless both recovery & boot is messed up during flash..

but its not easy to restore using apx, there is some other posts on that topic in this area.
[A7 Android Development] smallba:
Hey Dexter I Don't Know If You Look Over in The General Section, but Someone Left This for You At This Link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1065183
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
this could be useful, important here is the "libc" recompiled edition, as that was blocking me from any progress..
[A7 Android Development] rombold:
Honeycomb here we come.
[A7 Android Development] masterfred:
I'm about to have an orgasm
[A7 Android Development] bestialbub:
go 'masterfred', somewhere else. ;)
[A7 Android Development] jazzbone:
I'm going to try to do this...:eek:

How did you resize the SD card?

Did you have to wipe the contents of it?
[A7 Android Development] micmcguire:
Hi Dex need your help after the first time booting into recovery and doing a factory wipe, I cannot seem to get into recovery anymore. It seems to hang on the screen with the box with the arrow coming out pointing towards the little android guy. Any ideas?
[A7 Android Development] micmcguire:
Never mind I swiped my fingers across the soft keys and the menu came up!
[A7 Android Development] bazbob:
I just did this on my 16GB card. I split it in half 8GB FAT32 and 8GB ext2 primary. I used the "gparted live" CD and it worked great.

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php

I've sucessfully foollwed the instructions in the http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=832799 for the Galaxy 5 Tab and now my apps are all installing on the 8GB ext2 partition of my sdcard.

Check out this df listing:

$ export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH

$su

# df

/dev: 190832K total, 0K used, 190832K available (block size 4096)

/mnt/asec: 190832K total, 0K used, 190832K available (block size 4096)

/system: 148420K total, 148231K used, 189K available (block size 1024)

/data: 1224782K total, 131398K used, 1093384K available (block size 2048)

/misc: 1976K total, 1976K used, 0K available (block size 2048)

/cache: 396678K total, 10026K used, 386652K available (block size 2048)

/storage: 1651552K total, 12548K used, 1639004K available (block size 4096)

/storage/sdcard-disk0: 7813664K total, 315360K used, 7498304K available (block size 32768)

/system/sd: 7518916K total, 116376K used, 7402540K available (block size 4096)

/data/app: 7518916K total, 116376K used, 7402540K available (block size 4096)

/storage/usb0-disk0: 991600K total, 182496K used, 809104K available (block size 16384)

#

After adding some boot scripts now (as the instructions show you), all my new installed apps are being added to /system/sd/app now and there is plenty of room for more apps now.

Bob
[A7 Android Development] nev310:
with elocity mod 1.0c i get horrible battery life compared to the elocity dec 24 update

also with the adhoc fix wifi does not wake and scan on resume
[A7 Android Development] bielo:
1c can not downloadfor some reason anybody else?
[A7 Android Development] slowtoappworld:
Dexter - obviously I'm not saavy as related to this discussion so does your ROM allow me to have access to the android market. based on the trail above there seems to be some glitches that need to be worked out - are you going to resolve and update your ROM. Will the fix ever get as easy as a simple download that they we have access?
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
my rom got no glitches, AndroidOS does... our tablets are not made for this OS2.2 release(3.0 is official tablet edition)... so expectations are too big, and for some users is a first experience..

the mod is primarily all about googleapps here on elocityA7, only my FolioMod had alot more changes, but i can assure you that elocity is 99% stock with gapps working.. so if gapps slows down your tablet, its because gapps actually got alot of sync'ing.. mail,contacts,calendar,market,pictures,uploads,maps,gps,updates etc.

all this were not active on stockrom..or at least in a less functioning state.

and yes, it opens gapps, as i guess you got from above statement :-)
[A7 Android Development] rfisher1968:
Dexter,

I stopped using /system/sd/data -> /data because the google framework kept on forcing a close, but i liked that it had better performance.

I'm now using system/sd/app -> /data/app and i'm not having the google framwork issue, but i'm back to you 1.0c speed.

I'm just trying get a understanding why it was faster and why the google framework crapped out? I was hoping for some insight.
[A7 Android Development] Dexter_nlb:
at what stage did the mount take place?

in the "init.rc"? , otherwise you have wrong inode references and something suddenly gone when the /data is mounted on top of a existing mountpoint..

a trick here, if you didnt mount from init.rc, is replacing the "/system/bin/vold" and move it to "vold.bin" and make a shell scripting mounting your /data just early enough, and then exec the vold.bin last.. but it still might be too late to work , and should be directly in your init.rc so no services are started up..