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[Nook Color General] hpark21:
I use Opera since it is better than Firefox.

The reason that I do this is due to the fact that my company only allows CERTAIN browsers and it is either Opera or Firefox on Android (that I found). All other browsers does not pass correct website. (Tried Dolphin, Skyfire etc...)

However, I do not have any gripes. I think Opera is very nice.
[Nook Color General] Paul22000:
/shrug

Different people find different things important. For me, I find correctly-rendered pages, gestures, visual improvements, and addons more important than negligible increases in performance.
[Nook Color General] Divine_Madcat:
negligible increases in performance...

OK, I think i understand the disconnect. Perhaps you think we were talking about desktop browsers? Because the improvement in Opera Mobile is far beyond negligable. Not to mention, the web pages render just fine in the Mobile version (and aren't changed with useless "shading" making them not how the developer intended.
[Nook Color General] angomy:
Do flash videos behave the same on all these browsers, or do they handle them differently? (i.e. 100% plugin performance vs some sort of pre-/post processing). I subscribe to a site (dramafever.com) that I watch videos on and it's rather abominably unreliable (random stops, slow starts, stuttering) on the ones I've tried -- Dolphin HD, Dolphin Mini, Opera Mobile, default browser. This is all being ~6 feet away from wireless router on a relatively uncrowded channel. The youtube app works fine, so streaming data on my connection doesn't seem to be the issue. Dramafever is developing an android app but it's not coming out till this summer.
[Nook Color General] djlim4:
Is it weird of me to use Dolphin AND Opera?

Setting aside what people may think of visiting websites that stream pirated content, (like watching sporting events or tv channels)

I found Opera Mobile to be far superior to Dolphin mini in terms of streaming... i just like using Dolphin to browse, no technical reason, i just like it better.

To each his own right? I'm just glad there are so many options and that there ARE differences among them.

Just to expand a little on why i feel Opera is better at streaming, if anyone uses veetle, or knows what it is, Dolphin wont play a lot of the channels without their plugin, whereas Opera will still play certain channels that Dolphin won't. So there's my 0.02 cents.
[Nook Color General] bigbodysmallbrain:
dolphin HD is my pick
[Nook Color General] dalingrin:
Opera Mobile is with out a doubt my pick for the Nook. Scrolling is so much faster than browsers based on Webkit like Dolphin and the stock browser. Not to mention that Opera is friendlier on battery since it uses the GPU. If you scroll on the webkit browsers it instantly pegges the CPU and it jumps to the max frequency/voltage while scrolling.

Opera Mobile + the latest 2.6.32 overclock kernel = the best experience for me.
[Nook Color General] Paul22000:
I've been using Opera again for the past few days and now I remember what the last straw was that made me uninstall.

Often I get to a webpage and it just loads up completely blank. Closing the tab and re-opening doesn't fix it, nor does switching tabs etc. The only option to view the page is to use another browser.

In the following screenshot, notice that the tab preview shows the page fully loaded but the page is 100% blank.

Again, notice that the tab preview shows the page FULLY loaded, yet the page itself is blank.

All the smoothness in the world doesn't matter when the webpage content won't even show :D
[Nook Color General] dsf3g:
I've seen this before, but it's extremely rare. I'm much rather keep using Opera knowing that if I absolutely have to view a given page that won't open in Opera I can always try it in the stock browser. Opera is just so fast and smooth. And once you modify the User Agent to report the desktop version, the browsing experience is just amazing.
[Nook Color General] dsf3g:
100% agree. In my experience, poorly rendered pages are rarer than hen's teeth. Yeah it happens, but it's extremely rare IMHO, especially once you alter the User Agent to report itself as a desktop browser.
[Nook Color General] buzz killington:
Do you know if you downloaded Opera Mobile from Amazon or the Market? I started getting this problem recently and I never had it before. I'm trying to figure out what's causing it.
[Nook Color General] Hest88:
I use Dolphin HD as my main browser for my phone, but--perhaps because I'm not on CM7--it cuts off weirdly on my NC. As a result, Opera is my browser of choice for the NC.
[Nook Color General] d00med:
Opera has a long history of rendering some pages poorly, or pages that render virtually identical in most other browsers will be broken in Opera. I still use Opera Mini exclusively though. The compression makes my Edge network seem like actual broadband.

If I browse wallpapers at wallbase.cc though, I have to use Dolphin. It renders better and allows you to set a wallpaper within the browser.
[Nook Color General] altimax98:
Can I vote for the HC browser. Hands down best browser around
[Nook Color General] 3rd Echelon:
Opera

I've tried a few, but I really like Opera. It's got cool start page that allows me to display my favorite sites as thumbnails and it is really the best browser designed for mobile devices. I like the way it automatically zooms the screen when you select links that are close together on a tiny screen to make sure you can select the link you want. It also does this when you select fill-in fields. I'm running it on NookieFroyo .68 and it's been very stable. Flash works great as well.
[Nook Color General] swaaye:
there are a lot of things I like about Dolphin but tragically the Android browser engine is just too slow sometimes. So ive been using Opera Mobile more.

The Android 3 browser is apparently a big improvement. Dolphin even has GPU acceleration on there.
[Nook Color General] IFLATLINEI:
Opera Mobile - I've only used the stock browser and Opera so far and there's no comparison. Opera is faster and easier to use. My favorite feature is being able to organize my bookmarks in folders. Bottom line is webkit browsers need not apply.
[Nook Color General] HT_Flyer:
I use maxthon, it syncs with your browser on pc.
[Nook Color General] dexx0008:
opera mobile that i downloaded from market but modify user agent so it doesn't ever pull up mobiles sites.

very fast compared to any of the others i've tried. i'm on cm7.0.2

scrolling was painfully slow in all the other browsers.

to modify user agent.

1. download opera mobile from market (not mini)

2. open it and in the url bar type--> opera:config

3. scroll down to the second to last option 'User Prefs'

4. expand it and look for 'Custom User-Agent', it will be empty.

5. enter --> Opera/9.80 (Linux; en) Presto/2.7.81 Version/11.00

6. scroll down way to the bottom and hit save, close, and re-open.

7. go to cnn (full site) and compare scrolling with stock vs. opera mobile. much better.
[Nook Color General] holgalee:
I use the stock browser on both my Samsung Galaxy and the NookColor. I've tried Dolphin HD on my phone--even the most recent version--but never kept it for more than a few days each time. It's just too bloated for my basic demands, and seems slower than the stock.

To each her own. :p
[Nook Color General] SCWells72:
I'd been using Opera until moving to a .32 kernel. With the newer kernel the Webkit-based browsers run (almost) as smoothly as Opera, and I prefer their features. I'm going back and forth between Miren and Dolphin (5.0 beta) trying to decide which will be my daily driver.
[Nook Color General] Taosaur:
I've been using DolphinHD, and I'm trying out Opera Mobile, but what's really frustrating me is that none of them load a new page on the same site at the same zoom level as the page you were on, so you have to either deal with the default or re-zoom every time. It's a major PitA when viewing web-comics and forum threads. Do any Android browsers handle new pages like a desktop browser, keeping your zoom settings?
[Nook Color General] swaaye:
It's just that some sites don't drag it down as much as others. The browser also seems to get slower the more you use it (memory leaks maybe?). I don't think the .32 kernel does anything for it specifically.
[Nook Color General] Paul22000:
When you say close and re-open, do you mean going into Settings -> Applications and clicking Force Stop on Opera?
[Nook Color General] SCWells72:
Hmmmmmm...I did A/Bs with Webkit-based browsers and Opera 11 repeatedly on CM7 with a .29 kernel and the Webkit-based browsers were always choppy. When I originally updated stock to 1.2 I noticed that the browser was smoother than it is under CM7 even without overclocking, enough so that I thought perhaps they'd implemented hardware acceleration. Then when I loaded a .32 kernel and no other significant changes to the OS itself, I saw the same thing with the new Dolphin beta. Since that's pretty much just a wrapper around the Webkit component, I tried other browsers and saw similar. For example, NYTimes.com is WAY smoother under the .32 kernel than it ever was under the .29 kernel with the same Webkit-based browser.

Opera Mobile is still a little smoother than Webkit under .32, but the gap has narrowed considerably. For me it's narrowed enough that there really are options for which browser you want to use vs. .29 where only Opera Mobile provided a smooth experience.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XPLANE9:
After searching through the changelogs of many of Team Whiskey's and Master's Axura roms, I have noticed that many of the changelog features are framework changes and new skins on the stock rom. That being said, I am not flaming anyone as I do appreciate their work but are many devs for the Vibrant skinners or true coders such as Barack, Eugene, etc?

Again, THIS IS NOT A POST TO START FLAMING PEOPLE!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hilaireg:
I'm going to leave this open for the time being with the understanding that the thread may be closed by the designated Moderator for this forum the moment the thread goes off-topic.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MV10:
I'm about as "true developer" as you can get. I've written software in machine language and entered it in hex with a 16-key pad. I've written embedded systems. I've written software that was good enough that MS bought the company. I've written drivers. I've run dev shops with 400 employees. I have systems in production that process more than $150 billion worth of annual global transactions. There isn't a lot in the software world that I haven't tried my hand at.

And *I* don't have the time to screw around with building something like Nero v3. But I flashed it the other day and it rocked the tits off my previously-stock-Eclair phone, and I was pretty satisfied with the whole thing, and it never once occurred to me to wonder whether the TW guys were "real" developers or not.

In short: who cares? I willing to bet I can lay claim to the title "developer" on par with the hardest of the hardcore coders here, and I'm here to tell you if it bothers you that they're calling themselves developers because you suspect they may not size up to your standards, you should probably just move along -- or keep it to yourself.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtiryan:
Maybe a swift kick in the balls would've been kinder.....a little over the line I think. I really don't care who it is, but anyone who takes the time to change framwork or "reskin" a ROM has done more than my fat little fingers can do. They may not all be as great as Team Whiskey or Eugene, but they still develop something, so in short, sure they are all developers. As long as someone gives credit where due, and asked permission where necessary, then the laws of the universe are still being followed......
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Poser:
I think it is a fair enough question to post... but I ask you, what is it that you hope to answer or establish? Guidelines to correct nomenclature? E-peen? I just don't quite get the nature of your interrogatory...

Kudos to you... that is exactly why a functioning MOD committee is a great thing for XDA. I applaud your commitment to open discourse.

Listing your credentials may (and I stress may) have been a bit over the top... but point well taken nonetheless.

Also very fair point...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Master™:
Soo, you call two set of dev teams just skinners.. and one team coders, yet expect not to start a flame war?

I also don't know how you get "many of master's axura roms" there is only ONE axura rom.. And if you look at features, you could tell that it is not just a "Skin" you could also tell that in the change-logs if you looked past "Just framework mods" framework mods aren't just images btw.

If you honestly don't want to start a flame war, it is best not to post these types of threads.:mad:
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CrazyCharlie:
I've considered this question myself and the answer I've come up with is, I don't care.

Whether they're truly writing new code or just reskinning or theming it's still more than I can do. They do it in their spare time and offer their work to us for free. So I guess my question to you is, what difference does it make?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MV10:
I have a pretty strong suspicion that the OP is a developer and is trying to pull the "harder-core than thou" card, so it seemed appropriate at the time.

There is ALWAYS somebody better than you. If you're smart, you'll call those people "employees."
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Duce HD2:
I agree with that I don't really care, as long as who ever it may be, don't start releasing garbage that bricks my phone, I'm content.

I don't run an empire of $888.000.656.99...gabillion dollars with 2 interlaced brains that can code the matrix's live wallpaper, but in my little, I'm able to flash a ROM or 2. ;)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Drewstein:
When you write something remotely as good as Axura or V3 then you can make these statements.

Until then you're just being an ignorant troll.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] willsnews:
The op is a flame in itself, why is it still up?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MWBehr:
^^Have to agree personally.

Anyway, anyone who develops something is a developer (dur). This means themes, mods, guides, roms, etc.

As for the ignorant comment the OP made about changelogs, most "devs" don't take the time to list off every detail of the performance enhancements they made. Why? Because you wouldn't know what they're talking about if they did, and there's too many to list. If you're one of the few that could actually read and understand such a changelog, then you probably could be/are making your own roms anyway.

Yes some roms available on any phone's forum are more build around aesthetic changes, while others are geared towards efficiency, while others for raw power. That doesn't make one superior to another, but rather simply built for a different consumer.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xriderx66:
i just made a do-do in the toilet, am i a developer?

jk lol
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Whitehawkx:
I have to agree with this. I remember on Obsidian V5 Sombionix listed in the change log in great detail what he changed including userscripts and kernel tweaks only to be bombarded with questions about what they meant/do. A lot of the users don't understand the technical aspects and just want something "cool." Devs already get blasted with a barrage of questions and really don't need to add more fuel to the fire so to speak. It seems the OP more or less called TW and Master "skinners." The above says otherwise regarding TW and as for Master just look at the layout of his latest "beast" not to mention the Sense port he got booting on our phones. I would definitely call this development, wouldn't you agree?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MWBehr:
I know you were only making a joke, but basically (using it as an anology of course) yes. Is a kid that picks up an instrument for the first time a musician? Yes. Is he good or does anyone care that he's a musician? Probably not (other than his parents). Should he share his work with the world? Again, only his parents should hear it.

The point isn't "are you or aren't you a developer" it's simply a mater of what we percieve as different levels in skill. This doesn't even mean that our perception is accurate, but we're entitled to our opinions. And if you think a developer should have kept his work to himself or herself, then don't download it, and all is right in the world.

So yes, if you develop crap, you're still a developer, just maybe shouldn't share your product with the world ;)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kizer:
Zip Developer, Cyanogen and his Merry men or somebody dropping pure source I can careless. They contribute more than half the downloaders and requesters wanting more.

I say let them do their Jobs and be greatful they are here. Use somebody elses work and give them credit as long as its an option. I like options ;)
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
These will replace the screen you see when powering off your phone... Feel free to add to the list...

They go in system/media/video/shutdown/

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17161099/Shutdown PNG/Android Goodbye/shutdown_1.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17161099/Shutdown PNG/superman/shutdown_1.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17161099/Shutdown PNG/red eye/shutdown_1.png

This is the Gingerbread tv shutdown animation download this and unzip it, then copy all files into the media/video/shutdown folder (they have to be unzipped!!!!)

Shut down mp3's..

To Download right click the link and click save link as or you can see what they sound like by simply clicking the link

Place them here /system/media/audio/ui/0405_PowerOff.mp3

TV SHUTDOWN

Female Voice saying shutting down

Weird Noise

Sound Effect

Whirl

Error Sound

Don't Deactivate ME

Iron Man

Sound

Sound

Dying Phone

Rasberry

Rewind

If you're looking for Bootanimations & PowerOn Sounds then click HERE
[Samsung Mesmerize] phidelt82:
Good job, man. You are just crankin out the png's!
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
ha yeah, it gives me something to do when I get bored...
[Samsung Mesmerize] chidesd:
http://rapidshare.com/files/439877965/shutdown.zip

It was originally someone elses boot screen that i renamed into a shut down screen.

Description: Android guy peeing on a Mac apple the smashing it with a Bat
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
I didn't know you could have an animation for a shutdown screen.. THought it could just be one png file

Ha, that's a pretty cool animation
[Samsung Mesmerize] chidesd:
have to upzip its a file with 40 or 50 png files. tested on my phone looks kinda cool. would of uploaded just the folder but RS would upload it for some reason. just place the upziped folder in the right folder and it plays out like a video as u shut down
[Samsung Mesmerize] sageDieu:
The way it actually works is that you have multiple files ending in numbers, similar to if you were doing a boot logo. Only instead of them being inside a zip that you place somewhere, you put them all in /system/media/video/shutdown. They have to be named shutdown_x.png and the animation will stop after 50 or so frames even if there are more pictures.

Hope I helped.
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
yeah thanks
[Samsung Mesmerize] jnuts5423:
i must be missing somethin super simple. im fairly new to the game, but it wont let move it into the shutdown folder, as there is already a shutdown_1.png there. and i cant delete, rename, move, or even change the permissions of that 1, cause it says the file system is read only. Im using root explorer, and ive changed the permissions before even putting it in there? suggestion?

Edit**** i figured out the mount R/O button at the top can change, and that enabled me to change permissions and move system files around. But still cant get it to change the shutdown animation. Im still getting the stock US cell shutdown screen. i put it in /system/media/video/shutdown as directed, but cant get it to take.

I noticed the read write and execute text is different than the rest of the files in the shutdown folder below. is this my problem? what should the options be, cause i got everything checked. Edit again** not that, i changed it to match the rest, and still got nothing. (ill remove the screen shot to keep thread clean)
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
I can't get this to work either... I've been able to change just the single png file for the shutdown, but I can't use the animated png folder... I really haven't tried but once and gave up..

I did convert the droid pissing on apple to a bootanimation.zip:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=880991
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
i figured out what I was doing wrong... I moved the shutdown folder inside the other shutdown folder... I should've just renamed the orignal shutdown folder shutdown (2) and then moved the shutdown folder containing this animation into it's place, but I just deleted everything before I thought of that haha..
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
fixed the last image where it had the weird black box around the text
[Samsung Mesmerize] Malicah:
I have been trying to get the animation one to work, I'm using root explorer to transfer the files. When I copy the folder off my SD card, it copies the files, but renames them starting with Shutdown_32.png and automatically brings back the original shutdown_1 thru 31 files. Even if I delete those and attempt to rename the modified ones back to Shutdown_1 and so on..... they automatically change the image back to the original U.S. Cellular shutdown images. It makes no sense, any suggestions guys?

Edit: I believe the icons just aren't updating in Root Explorer, cause they seem to transfer fine in Astro. Unfortunately it still doesnt work though, it just shows a blank screen on power down now =(

FIXED: I just had to change the permission for the pictures (a long process, but it works now!)
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
FYI I added the gingerbread tv shutdown animation to the list... follow instructions!!!!
[Samsung Mesmerize] BakedTator:
you wouldnt by chance have the tv shutdown sound, and if you do could you post it and tell me where it goes...thanks and keep up the nice work...btw the tv shutdown works like a charm:D
[Samsung Mesmerize] sageDieu:
Thanks dude, you rock. just wish we could have that as a lock animation xD
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
are there shutdown sounds??? not sure i've heard any before...
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
yeah I spoke to Phidelt82 about doing this mod and he said it would be VERY hard and probably a battery drain...

If you can't live without it, you may could buy him some BEER and get him to work on it for you though ;) (it's way beyond my knowledge level)
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
i added the tv poweron animation http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=9961991#post9961991
[Samsung Mesmerize] BakedTator:
my phone uses the default usc shutdown sound...want sure if you had 1 for the tv shutdown
[Samsung Mesmerize] cloudstrife7:
Can anyone let me know the directory and file name of the shutdown .mp3? Thanks in advance.
[Samsung Mesmerize] obliviator33:
/system/media/audio/ui/0405_PowerOff.mp3
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
hmm, have to look into this...

If it works, i'll be posting some soon!!!
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
Good Question

Good Answer

Thanks to you guys I've added some PowerOff files.. Check the first post down at the bottom...
[Samsung Mesmerize] bdemartino:
In case anyone is wondering, to get the bootanimation.zip to work for 2.2 you will need to have lagfix enabled (along with the file located in system/media) it won't play until lagfix is enabled, while disabled it will use the samsungboot.qmg file instead. (I meant to post this in the bootanimation one, the shutdown animations should work even withought the EA11 voodoo kernel.)
[Samsung Mesmerize] elijahblake:
wow, that's weird, Good to know for people other than me though lol!!!