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[Epic 4G Android Development] scottyd035ntknow:
You know something, I just did some math (amazing for me) and it is actually more expensive to do the boost thing than go with postpaid. Thought I would post just for some perspective and also because alot of epics are getting a little long in the tooth and might need replacing soon.

For 2 vzw lines and unlimited data I pay $118 plus another $10 for a basic "ghost" line. This includes 550 anytime minutes, free vzw to vzw calling, 500 texts each and free vzw to vzw texts. I always look for the free or near phone deals like the current deals on a slew of newer phones ($20 Bionic anyone?). We are both getting Droid 3s next week for free with the car and desk docks, this is a value of over $800 being conservative. With the third line I get to upgrade the main line every year for another $400-$600 value. At the lowest boost rate of $35 for $70 a month I save $746 a year in actual service or $1500 over 2 years. 3 free phones over 2 years that I would have to buy on boost levels this out or might even be better. I know a used epic is $200-$250 brand new but that is for a dated phone, guys with Evo3ds on boost are paying double that. My wife and I have only used 270 minutes in 24 days and texts... maybe 100 each to non vzw numbers. Also, Vzw service is light years ahead of Sprint, besides early morning and late night my DX will more than double the speed of my Epic.

So... before you jump into boost, do the math. For a single line you will probably save money but for more than 1, the startup cost of $500 for 2 new Epics plus another $100 for the donor phones and then if one breaks you don't have insurance etc... I enjoyed my Epic immensely but one of the big reasons I got it was to have a slider with a legitimate keyboard vs a Droid 1/2. Now that Vzw finally THREE nice sliders (D3/D4/Strat) I really can't justify staying especially when both our Epics are starting to die and it will be $400 to replace them or we could get two brand new dual core D3s with accessories for free... just saying.
[Epic 4G Android Development] strra:
You get those kinds of prices because you're locked in paying $130/mo for the next 2 years for limited voice, text, and data. On boost, I have my nexus and my wife has her moment that we got from Sprint subsidized (read: free) and now we're on boost paying $100/month off contract for unlimited everything . So it makes sense for me
[Epic 4G Android Development] n3m35155:
Interesting side note on Boost and CM9...

No need to run Voicemail Notifyer...

The VM notification just works!!!

I was shocked as $h!t when it happened...

N3M3515
[Epic 4G Android Development] flastnoles11:
I've got 6 lines (soon to be 7) on sprint and pay just over 400 per month for unlimited everything... I would say that is not too damn bad...
[Epic 4G Android Development] weinerwad3000:
I have my evo on boost mobile and pay 50 cents a day. I use google voice for texts and grooveip for calls. So basically I pay $15 a month for unlimited everything except if I wanted to send or receive picturemail it would cost me 25 cents each. I don't ever get picturemail so this is definitely worth it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] strra:
what plan do you have at $15/month that gives you unlimited data to text and call with google voice/groove ip? or do you use wifi for those?
[Epic 4G Android Development] weinerwad3000:
The pay as you go 50 cents a day data plan. You only have data and I use google voice for texts and groove ip for calls. It's great. You can use the 3g service to make calls. Sometimes the calls cut out but I'm not complaining. I rarely use calling anyway.
[Epic 4G Android Development] scottyd035ntknow:
I'm going to be paying SOMEONE for the next 2 years for service... our data is unlimited, we do not use nearly all the minutes or texts and we have access to all the newest phones. I was kind of shocked when I did the math and realized that with the prices of the subsidized phones factored in, we save no money with boost. Another big thing is insurance. If I'm gone for a month on a trip overseas and my wife breaks her phone, she is either screwed or she has to go out and drop $200 for a boost android until I get back. YOU try telling her to use the donor Incognito for a month lol.

Anyway, like I said it is all situational. For me, going back to the postpaids makes more sense especially when phones are moving so fast the top of the line phones are free in 5 months. I am still amazed about the Bionic being $20... and no offense but I'd rather pay $130 and have a Bionic and D3 with the option to upgrade yearly for free with the ghost line and also have unlimited data that is actually usable. I've been getting such garbage speeds lately on boost it is crazy. It was ok for a little while but during the day up until bedtime for most ppl I can't break 300 down and 100 up anymore... :(
[Epic 4G Android Development] brooksyx:
No offense but why do you keep posting this story. This thread is about running the epic on boost mobile. Not why you think boost mobile is a bad deal for you. Go post this in general or something.
[Epic 4G Android Development] weinerwad3000:
Sprint plan for evo

Pay $200 and sign contract for 24 months and pay $90 per month.

200 + (24x90) = $2,360

My plan

$15 a month for unlimited data.

(If you already have the phone) 15 x 24 = $360, plus $30 for incognito $390 That's a $1,970 difference.

(if you don't already own the phone and pay full price) $500(and I'm being generous) + (15 x 24) = $860, plus $30 for incognito $890 That's a $1,470 difference.

Normal unlimited plan

(Own phone)

55 x 24 = $1,320 + $30 for incognito $1,350, That's a $1,010 difference

(don't own phone)

500(again being generous) + (55 x 24) = $1,850, That's a $510 difference

Not to mention if you don't have the money to pay for services one month with sprint causes a late fee and these keep stacking on if you don't have a job or are low on cash. Prepaid is definitely the way to go. If anything happens to my phone I can order parts and repair it myself.
[Epic 4G Android Development] strra:
quoted for truth.

back on topic, i was in a (not 100%) state when doing this and i didn't save my nexus' AAA password. i suppose it will never run 3G on sprint again, huh?

i guess it's a good thing i plan on running this phone into the ground.

and even if i do sell it, i guess i could sell it as a boost nexus or flash it back as much as possible and sell it to gazelle
[Epic 4G Android Development] BoominSVX:
I might have to eat my previous words here. The last few builds of CM7 were giving me trouble using 3g. It was very random and worked only when it felt like keeping me from cracking the screen. I lost 3g today, and thought something broke in the programming. After installing EL30 I found 4g to work, but not if booted from the multiboot sd build. It took a full wipe and flash to find it again. I snagged my girls phone and did a get.prop | grep dns to find 66.1.120.132 and 66.1.120.133 - the same numbers insanity posted but with 120 instead of 12. I changed it and did a side by side. All seems well and I'm loading pages about a half a second faster than her. (She's on TW)

Insanity, do you know of any changes regarding DNS lately? Maybe post build 38? I'm just wondering if it's android or boost.
[Epic 4G Android Development] LargePrime:
please check, as I believe open DNS servers work and 4.4.4.4 works.

I believe Boost has just blocked Google DNS. Also I think the DNS settings are geographically set.
[Epic 4G Android Development] garyf:
There is a thread called revert boost epic back to sprint that says restoring the meid and ota activation will get new aaa pwords.

Look up the thread, try it and tell us if it works.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ronkuba:
Thanks to the OP:) One question is there a way to flash to cm9 or will it break the 3G? Thanks
[Epic 4G Android Development] strra:
You can flash roms but you have to change the APN every time to get mms working.

Sent from my Nexus S 4G on Boost Mobile
[Epic 4G Android Development] 777Braveheart:
Sorry if I am missing something. Are you guys saying if I have CM7 and I cannot get 3G to work reliably (if at all) I can change my dns settings like you suggested and all will work?
[Epic 4G Android Development] 777Braveheart:
BoominSVX,

Are you saying you have 3g working reliably on CM7? I've been trying with no success. Is changing the dns all that needs to be done?
[Epic 4G Android Development] killa57:
Hi all great thread i have a question anyone know how to read these addresses in QXDM 01D3: DE23 ,01D4:2C6B ,01D6:36C1 ???? i need it to make three different address like 0x00000 you get the idea.. i have googled but cant figure out the mathmatics behind it got confused and dont understand it. pls some one help..;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] BoominSVX:
Yes. I did things a little differently than the OP does. Found info from somewhere that someone had posted. After doing this I didn't even know about the issue with the DNS, but I did notice that occasionally 3g wasn't there when I needed it. After a recent nightly upgrade, I had to start changing the DNS to match the one on my girl's phone. Check that against another sprint phone first. If that doesn't work, continue reading.

I doubt anyone wants to go back into these steps if they already have a working phone, but the instructions I used came from a user Gotanmp3 on hofo. You can google "QPST and my self inflicted wounds" to see his post. All credit goes to him! This is for after you write that long thingy thingy to the whosiwhatsit.

Instead of hand editing in QPST to match, I do this:

If you know what your profile 0 AAA key is (it's 32 characters long), you should be able to do this to get your "phone" working properly:

From a touchwiz rom, ##786# reset (everything on the phone will go bye-bye, you've been warned)

Connect the phone with QPST and...

- Set the "Service Programming" code to the correct value (may not need to be changed, but YMMV)

- Open profile 0 under "M.IP"

-- Set NAI to MEID@hcm.sprintpcs.com (Samsungs will normally have the proper value after a ##786# reset anyway)

-- HA Shared Secret is secret as "Enter text string"

-- AAA Shared Secret is a 32 character (as written) long hex string unique to your phone, as "Enter hex value"

- Under "PPP Config", select "AN" and set "User ID:" to MEID@hcm.sprintpcs.com (Again, Samsungs usually populate this value correctly)

- Write to Phone

Phone should be able to Hands Free activate OTA and everything will work properly except for MMS (you'll need to set your MMS APN to http://mm.myboostmobile.com). Flash CyanogenMod, and check for 3G. If good, open voice dialer and say OPEN A.P.N. to change settings. If you don't know what your profile 0 AAA key should be, well, can't help you due to the forum rules. Also, if you don't have your profile 0 AAA key, don't do any of the above because you'll be in a much worse situation.
[Epic 4G Android Development] garyf:
Please help me catch up.

Are a lot of people having 3g problems with cm roms?

And to the people talking about 4g, are you making typos, not using Boost or have you gotten 4g working on phones connected to Boost?
[Epic 4G Android Development] jumpman6235:
EDIT: nvm... gf doesnt know what shes doing...
[Epic 4G Android Development] Trigger911:
I got this working but my phone seems to be calling the wrong area code or something has anyone had problems with this before? it seems to be adding numbers before it dails very weird...

this is what the automated line says: area code 16 switch 319
[Epic 4G Android Development] LargePrime:
Did you google your problem?

Did you get any answers?

I did and got this

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...de-617-rooted-leaked-2-2-a-2.html#post1410569
[Epic 4G Android Development] Trigger911:
I just stayed on the line ... i should listened more i guess ... they asked me account info and then phone type told them incog .... they reset me and I had to turn off phone and turn it on everything was fine ... i got it working but my data dont work tho ...

I keep getting error 67 saying my username and pass is bad I should be putting the HA and AAA pass for sprint in 0 and the boost one in 1 in the mips right? both as hex? as I seen a guy here saying to put the HA in text string and that worked for him at least i got a working phone now lol

Well i got data working by doing this ...

I didnt type in the passwords I tried another guide before this one and I exported the NVram Items 465,466,1192, etc way I did the clear (after a titanium backup) and I reset my phone and when reboot inported the memory items and then rebooted again and it activated with data and everything .

thanks for the help.
[Epic 4G Android Development] debage39:
I'm having problems with my evo on boost. is there anybody that's good with evo's be willing to help me out with it? Getting error messages, data is spotty. I've asked on different forums but no help. Pm me pls and thank u!
[Epic 4G Android Development] LargePrime:
There are literally a dozen threads in the evo forum to help you. go there.
[Epic 4G Android Development] debage39:
Oh my bad I just noticed I was in the epic forum. My bad.
[Epic 4G Android Development] LargePrime:
NP dude. Hope you get it fixed.
[Epic 4G Android Development] debage39:
I'm trying. Just afraid of it not working on boost if I try to take the last update off. Or if I do a hard reset. Will that take the update off? And stay flashed.
[Epic 4G Android Development] LargePrime:
Dude, remember you are still in the wrong forum.
[Epic 4G Android Development] carsalbuja:
i just flashed the new CM9 based on ICS 4.0 and it works great guys but the only issues is that the "open apn" to edit the commands to get our mms working have been disable.... you cant edit default apn anymore :( , if anyone finds another way to open and edit that apn please post. thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] strra:
I noticed this too. You can dial ##3282#, push edit, put in your MSL, go to "others ", and change the MMSC URL to http://mm.myboostmobile.com
[Epic 4G Android Development] carsalbuja:
yup i tried this method too but after i dial the good old ##3282# nothing happens, it just stays there , is not like in the other android systems where the edit option would pop up... it's driving me insane ... any other ways ? thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] strra:
Oh yeah, in CM9, there are no ## codes. You can just make a new apn and select it. When I get home, I will post the settings you need to plug in.
[Epic 4G Android Development] carsalbuja:
thanks man that would be huge help! post those settings ones you get a chance!

i actually cracked the stupid code

*#*#3282#*#* and finally gives you the edit option but then you enter the MSL number and you get a modem error message which wont let you go pass thru "modem exeptions occurs" so practically i got nowhere lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
Then your best bet is to call Boost and get with ATS and get the 6-digit vision password or whatever they want to call it...it's AAA Shared Key on Qualcomm language...
[Epic 4G Android Development] zipxavier:
I was using the Virgin Mobile Rumor Touch...and from what I understand they don't even budge on the SPC code, let alone the AAA password. I just got an Intercept and used that, no problems.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
Oh ok, virgin, Im not sure how they work... Sorry I can't give you any advise there... I thought you were on Boost...maybe it doesn't use it? I have an LG Rumor somewhere I could check to see if they even use it...
[Epic 4G Android Development] zipxavier:
They lock down their phones pretty hard. You have to do a ridiculous exploit to even get the SPC on the Rumor Touch. They definitely use the AAA passwords, as the intercept had one.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
Oh never mind, I have the regular rumor, I was gonna say, why dont you switch donor because I know the original Rumor is 1xRTT.. :-/ But do let us know if you find out, something good to know...
[Epic 4G Android Development] Poryhack:
I assume they refers to LG? It'd be good to know what brands to avoid for this sort of thing in the future.

@m4f1050: We're talking about Virgin because it's half the price (monthly) of Boost for what seems to me at least to be about the same thing.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
Gotcha. There is Virgin in my area, but do you get Unlimited everything with Virgin? And half price of $50 is $25 a month? I know in 18 months my bill will be $35, so I am asuming Boost will only get better in prices... :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] zipxavier:
Boost = Sprint. Virgin Mobile = Sprint. Same service, but Virgin has 300 minutes/unlimited text/unlimited data for $25. I don't talk much or use gmail calling on my pc to save minutes. So I have my Epic on there using 3g for a bargain.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
That is a bargain! But I think I'll hang on to Boost for 16 months (I already paid 2 on time) and pay $10 more for Unlimited talk as well. But yeah, that is definately a bargain, and with Google Voice you can probably get away with not using your minutes unless you are in an area without data, which I still haven't seen it.. (Knock on wood!)
[Epic 4G Android Development] zipxavier:
Just so you know there is a $40 a month 1200 minute plan as well. Still pretty cheap
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
So do you know what phones work as donor? Ones that can get the pw or have you tried with just the provisioning profile 0's AAA key to see if it provisions like Boost does?
[Epic 4G Android Development] zipxavier:
Only the Samsung Intercept which makes it a high cost upfront for a cheap plan. I bought a bad esn epic and it saves me a ton.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
Ok, thanks for the info!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Poryhack:
You might even be able to find a damaged Intercept on eBay, as long as the ESN is good and it turns on you could save a lot off the upfront cost.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
As long as the radio loads you mean? So you can grab the AAA shared key or the profile 1 aaa? Do those phones load the radio without having to boot into android?
[Epic 4G Android Development] zipxavier:
If the screen was cracked or broken it would be a lot cheaper and good to use
[Epic 4G Android Development] lars1110:
hey man very nice guide. you got me at the second step 11. lol. but i live in florida to what area do you live in?
[Epic 4G Android Development] alynch75:
Hello I got 4G on my Epic

When I click on the 4G option and run speed test my numbers are 3934 and 2145 I am getting the 4G on my epic and when I run speed test on 3G i get 1234 and 646... I am using an epic and have no issues. Of course I didn't use the guide here. I used the one that is posted on YouTube
[Epic 4G Android Development] Leviuqse:
thanks, broward county sir.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Leviuqse:
Hi, I went and searched youtube for the guide you speak of, is pretty much the same thing except the way the ha and aaa are extracted and imported to the epic.

anyways...i was curious to see if flashing the epic the youtube way helps with getting actual 3g speeds so i decided to return everything back to original settings on both phones and did the data repair by coping and pasting the NVitems...so far..I keep getting random 1x speeds, my epic says i'm connected to EvDo rev.A
[Epic 4G Android Development] strra:
everything not listed is left blank

Name="Sprint"

APN="Sprint"

Username="Sprint"

MMSC="http://mm.myboostmobile.com"

MMS Port="80"

MCC="310"

MNC="120"
[Epic 4G Android Development] carsalbuja:
Roger that. I made it chosed it when I open apn's with voice comander but then it's still not working . I check with the 3282 command and it's still not showing the new mmsc adress, it's like if the changes are not sticking.... I'm really about to go back to marcusant's v3 rom... I'm running out of ideas...
[Epic 4G Android Development] strra:
hm. i'm out of ideas. when i was running a rom without ## codes or the ability to edit the existing APN, creating the new APN and choosing it worked for me.

i don't know where else you could edit the APN... i'll do a search on root explorer and maybe i can find an xml file somewhere or something
[Epic 4G Android Development] carsalbuja:
Yeah this is a though one... cool, if you find any other back door let me know I'll be googling like a mad man tonight maybe I'll find something. Eventually everyone will run to this problem in the future with ice cream sandwich based roms might as well try to resolve it
[Epic 4G Android Development] strra:
the only thing i could find was /etc/apns-conf.xml

what i would do is try to open the file, change the mmsc from http://mms.sprintpcs.com to http://mm.myboostmobile.com

save and replace the file, then reboot.

open voice dialer and say "Open APNs", open the APNs dialog, then push menu and tap "Reset to default"

then open the dialer and do your *#*#3282#*#* and view the MMSC URL

let me know if that works
[Epic 4G Android Development] carsalbuja:
Geneous Strra!

i went in with root explorer , extracted a copy of that xml file, put it somewhere else momentanly and edited the copy. there was only one mms.sprintpcs.com to edit so not too complicated. went back and froze the old one just in case, dropped in the new edited copy, went trhu voice comand reseted to default apn's , reboot the phone and bam! mms working over 3g like a charm. the interesting thing is that when checking the mmsc from 3282 it still says the old adress in there ..... but anyways everything went thru find and nothing has been broken sms,mms,3g and voice calls are fine. thanks a lot for the help man.
[Epic 4G Android Development] weinerwad3000:
You should be able to just use apn backup and restore and backup your rom change the xml file and then restore it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] carsalbuja:
Oh yeah easier big time.... thats if i would've known about the non editing issue BEFORE flashing the new rom ;) . I did think about restoring my old rom backup to make an apn backup for cm9 but that was my very last resource.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mschmidt33:
I have a Boosted E4GT that took awhile to get 3g. The only way I could get out of 1x was to Odin back to eg30. The phone would then update to el29 and it still has 3g! Anyone ever hear of this? Maybe I was doing something wrong before Odin but I really think this was it.

Back to my question... my 3g is spotty. Good at home (500kbps-1mbps) and horrible/non existant at work (~50kbps). Sprint was always bad at my work with my TP2 (donor) but not this bad.

I updated my profile and PRL>61007. Anyone think the latest Sprint PRL>60677 or Sprint/VZW>11115 would help? Any other ideas?

I heard that removing sprint multimedia proxy info in ##data# can help?

Rooting?

Custom Rom?

Or am I SOL and Sprint sucks at my work. Seems odd that it is worse than the TP2 though.

Mike
[Epic 4G Android Development] weinerwad3000:
I know this is a little off topic but the only other thread has no one replying. What are you're guys' average data speeds? I've tried several prls but I only average about 0.05-0.15 mbs but people have been talking about getting 1+ mbs
[Epic 4G Android Development] strra:
i'm on sprint's latest PRL and these were my results the other day:

if i go to town on saturday, i'll check then (i don't have any service whatsoever at home)

---------- Post added at 11:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:44 PM ----------

updating to sprint's latest PRL (which i believe is 60685, actually) could make a difference. don't flash a verizon PRL or you won't get anything except a prompt to enter a credit card when you make outgoing calls.

and IIRC, the multimedia proxy in ##data# should be blank anyway
[Epic 4G Android Development] weinerwad3000:
I was getting worse results from the updated prl. I used to get good speeds but for the past 6-8

Months its been horrible. I'm starting to think its the sprint towers that suck. Flagstaff is a fairly large town so I don't know why its so ****ty.

Here's my latest test at 9:10pm