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[EVO 4G Android Development] icecoldbong:
honestly, i've never seen so many people OCD about their battery until I started reading xda when I got my evo in june. I would bet money on those people w/ battery issues are CONSTANTLY charging their batteries throughout the day (even if it drops to 85%, because OH GOD MY PHONES GOING TO DIE SOON BETTER MAKE IT TO 100%). Give your batteries a break and just use your damn phone instead of obsessing over a few percentage points;; lol

I figured with the breakthrough in sbc on the evo, complaints would go down but its now come down to "my phone holds 100% for only 30 minutes, how does yours hold it for an hour? I should just charge it longer until my phone blows up"

Either way, sorry for the rant, cant wait for the new updates :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
I have been using savage kernel since the beginning of this thread and never got a problem with the battery or

Overheating. I know this because I used an app that monitors the battery temperature, health and charge.

Guys keep up the good work and looking forward to the release of the new kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kessomatt:
In regards to miui, it does cause some problems with bluetooth(tried 2 different heatsets) but it seems anything above .32 on that rom causes bt to go wonky.
[EVO 4G Android Development] matt2053:
Glad you guys are keeping up the good fight. Because diggity dawg I love this kernel, I love Zendroid, and I cannot wait for Savaged Zen!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tyzing:
I agree...my BT acts up quite a bit on MIUI but the battery life is so good I'm not willing to switch to an older kernel to fix it! Just keep that in mind guys for future builds....I'm not sure why but BT is buggy on MIUI and it might be worth looking into since they are making you the kernel in the ROM package.
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
I was not aware of this personally. Once we get .37 running and stable we will ask MIUI devs to test and if there are issues we will look into it and troubleshoot.

Makes it harder for everyone because MIUI is closed sourced and we don't know if they're using older or newer version of BT drivers
[EVO 4G Android Development] halorin:
All I know is I've had my phone on the charger for over 18 hours before without a problem on this kernel. Personally I think whoever had problems is holding it wrong.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rstuckmaier:
So I don't know why no one else has brought this up but I had a slightly different idea for an "SBC-ish" kernel.

Peoples main complaint with stock is that it charges to 100% then drops to 90% before it charges back up to 100%. So why don't we (and when I say we I mean a dev because I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to coding) just change the bottom threshold? Instead of 90% why not 95%? 97%? 99%?

Or for that matter make it variable. I charge my phone overnight so I don't need 100% battery at 4am, 5am, etc. Why not have a widget where you press it and it "resets" the cycle and tops off the battery. I assume you could put some coding in where if the battery is already at or near 100% is just tells you as such.

I personally like the second option. This of it this way: I would get up, turn my screen on and press the widget. Then I could go shower, get lunch ready, and my phone would be at a true 100% and ready for the day.

-Sorry, I know you asked to put all SBC related talking in the SBC topic but I thought I'd spread my idea around.
[EVO 4G Android Development] land2634:
I'd personally like to see this as well. I don't know how feasible it is, but for someone not familiar with coding (me), it sounds possible.
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVO-lution of Man:
I'm running MIUI 1.1.7 and can tell you savage runs great. It will get warm while charging but I've monitored it and the battery temp never rises above 93deg. Not what I'm used to with aosp kernels and roms but no different then sense.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nosfanatic2006:
Just curious, but does SBC have a temperature cut-off? I'm not worried about it (haven't had a single issue in the month I've been using SBC), but the only setcpu profile I have is for temp; I have it set to cut down to 700 if the temp reaches 100* and I figured I could just set it up to match the kernel cut-off if it has it :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] kessomatt:
I suspect they are using old drivers. Any . 32 kernal fixed the problem. Is there a way to replace the bt drivers manually to test?
[EVO 4G Android Development] lugose:
Is it just me or is the BFS link broken?
[EVO 4G Android Development] khayman18:
Bfs link isn't working for me either
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
I can try that. What kernel have you tried with fully functional Bluetooth?
[EVO 4G Android Development] kessomatt:
The sbc aosp kernal that was recently taken down, ziggys latest beta, snap 7.6. Basically any .32 kernal worked. Is it possible to just open up the rom zip and replace drivers?
[EVO 4G Android Development] bwcorvus:
Hows this for battery life???

As you can see the phone was setting in airplane mode, with wifi on, and asleep the entire time (Test phone so i don't use it).

CM 6.1.2

All updates (HBOOT/radio/prl/pri)

SK 1.6 BFS SBC

Stock battery

Screen on 17mins
[EVO 4G Android Development] sling:
All SBC kernels have been pulled from XDA
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
Why the BFS kernels?

PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
[EVO 4G Android Development] halorin:
Are you kidding? Wow. This place is changing...
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
BFS is not being pulled from XDA.

Havent uploaded the BFS version yet guys.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bwcorvus:
Think its all SBC kernels
[EVO 4G Android Development] nosfanatic2006:
No kernels are being pulled. Only temporarilly removed till our 3 leaders talk together :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] krazyflipj:
1.6 no SBC is missing smartass governor

Sent from my CM7 RC0 Powered device
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
I'm trying to test ms's conservative settings? And I want to know what's the default conservative settings for savage so I can compare?
[EVO 4G Android Development] sling:
Sorry i meant SBC
[EVO 4G Android Development] halorin:
I've never seen a drain that good. Even with airplane mode on and all.
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
No. The bluetooth drivers are in the kernel and that's just a compiled binary. We will need the source. I can look at the .32 source and see what can be done
[EVO 4G Android Development] allroy1975:
I just switched over to cm612 from myns warm twopointtwo rls 5 because I really want good sounding bt audio in my car and it seems sense won't deliver. Will all cm kernels have the updated bitpool?

I'm looking to check out some alternate kernels but need that nice Bluetooth. :-)

Sorry, new to cm. :-)

Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tyzing:
I would love to test it for you!!!! I'm not bad at being a beta tester but I just got my buddy to switch over to MIUI and can have him test it with me (he's a dev)

Let me know!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
There are some audio tweaks in. I personally don't use Bluetooth so I can't comment on that but I can say that sound over headphones is much better than what I experienced with sense
[EVO 4G Android Development] pardonmyownage:
wow really? using my headphone cable in my car, the audio quality is horrible compared to my wifes sense evo... it seemed muffled. maybe my phone is botched.

i got a new cable on the way, i will see if that helps.
[EVO 4G Android Development] davidc23:
guys i have CFS sbc version, should i take it off?
[EVO 4G Android Development] bwcorvus:
Up to you, I am still using them.
[EVO 4G Android Development] davidc23:
yep im thinking the same, but idk seem lots of reports...
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
Yeah. Bug in Beta 2. Use this new and awesome beta 2.5. Made some bugfixes and this guy is now as good and better than beta 1 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13857065/Savage-Kernel-Beta2-5.zip

OP will be updated in the morning
[EVO 4G Android Development] pseudo_nomen:
EDIT: Nevermind - looks like you were on it. Thanks!!

Yep. Over and over and over and over again in rapid sucession:

<6>[2381.628387] AVS setting to 950mV @422MHz
<3>[2381.628872] acpuclock: Unable to drop ACPU vdd: 422400

<6>[2434.726985] AVS setting to 950mV @245MHz
<3>[2434.727334] acpuclock: Unable to drop ACPU vdd: 245000

Additionally, conservative doesnt seem to be getting set as default governor. I dont, as a rule, use setcpu but prefer to just manually set governors and their parameters within /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/. Every single time after installing v2 of he kernel, ./scaling_governor is showing as "ondemand" with the corresponding default settings being generated within the /cpufreq directory. Something seems to be a little screwy here.

But... that said, v2 is working great for trickle charging. Slightly higher voltage; 4207 mV charging @ 100% (vs ~4202 mV that I was getting on the previous version) and dropping mA down to 0, with the occasional poke of +2 to +4 mA to maintain charge. Overall, awesome work :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
Please update to beta 2.5: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13857065/Savage-Kernel-Beta2-5.zip

This is a lot better, smoother and snappier. Also, I just got a 40 in linpack and close to 1700 in quadrant

The ACPU vdd errors should no longer appear. I will get the default governor fixed for next release. Thanks for the feedback!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] walkingcorpse:
Wifi not working in 2.5. Tried enabling hotspot as well.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nuetron:
Updated to beta 2.5.

Can not seem to keep a stable usb connection with the phone. Keeps disconnecting and reconnecting. This can be reproduced by turning off the screen on the phone. Will restart computer and phone and try again.

edit: adb seems to be unresponsive at times in 2.5. Phone still charges.
[EVO 4G Android Development] schwincat05:
might be a stupid question...but do i have to wait till my phone gets all the way down to 0 before i plug it into the AC charger?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
never do that, it probably will shut off before you do damage, but the type of battery this is, it doesn't get a memory so you don't have to drain it all the way, in fact the exact opposite, keep it charged as often as you can
[EVO 4G Android Development] Triketra:
Hey guys sup. I'm extremely new to root and to installing kernels, but so far I'm loving this.

Installed Beta 2, searched around to make sure this bug was not posted already, but if it's a repeat I apologize.

Running Chris' Sprint lovers 12/21/10 release on 003 hardware

everything so far is functional, Except Camera, and Camcorder

Tried to launch both and it goes to blackscreen when launching.

Also noticed some video slicing throughout the rom with kernel Beta 2

If there is anymore info you would like I would be more than happy to provide, just contact me.

Other than that I am very happy with this Kernel! I may not know it all yet but I am eager to learn and think with my degrees I am intermediate in this so far. if you guys need something tested on the Sprint Lovers Rom from 12/21/10 by Chris my Talk is triketra1983@gmail.com, feel free to contact me to have anything on the 0003 hardware tested out.

Thank you guys for this Kernel, Very Much Potential in this one

Just loaded 2.5 same issue but the slicing is gone as promised, if you guys could get the camera and camcorder going in my rom you will have made a believer out of me
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Ok guys... im going to update the op soon. The title says AOSP kernel. This kernel is not made for sense roms. Therefore it wont work well for sense based roms. And sense roms are not supported.
[EVO 4G Android Development] piscesjoey:
Your 003 EVO must have the new camera hardware, which is currently not working as of yet with custom kernels.

EVO on Tapatalk
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Sprint lovers is a sense rom if im not mistaken
[EVO 4G Android Development] typeadam:
I was having the same issues w/ the "SBC for New CM kernel!!" from the other thread. Beta2 solved my problems. Haven't tried 2.5 but if you're saying that's happening again I'm a little worried about getting ADB all messed up again...
[EVO 4G Android Development] typeadam:
Here's me when I was asleep. It reached 100% about 10 minutes before the first entry you see and shows up to 6am when my alarm went off.

I love no negative mAs :D and that 4 mA average trickle..!

It's 8:48am and I'm at 93%

Unplugged at 6am

Since 6am

3 phone calls

4 SMSs

2 emails read and written

30second Facebook browse

30 minutes of music on the train

1 image (this one) uploaded to Picasa

Yesterday w/ the "SBC for New CM kernel!!" I was still at 98% but I'm pretty sure I used the phone a lot less in the same time.

So far I'm very happy.

No ADB/USB issues w/ Beta2, so far the battery is holding the charge well, the phone has a minuscule lag compared to the "SBC for New CM kernel!!" but nothing really drastic or really noticable, and we'll see how it holds up the rest of the day.

No screen tearing and WiFi works as it should.

Weary about trying 2.5 since another poster reported ADB/USB issues which I've battled for over a day on the previous kernel...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Eisert:
I am not having an issue with wifi at all. I am using hardware 003 with the beta 2.5 kernel and CyanogenMod 6.1.1.
[EVO 4G Android Development] JOEOZUNA4U:
is conservative the default governor?
[EVO 4G Android Development] paranoid android85:
im using smartass gov on beta 2 and its smooth and more responsive than conservative
[EVO 4G Android Development] xhazyx:
Just a heads up... the only kernel that works for me on a GB ROM... with flawless wifi is zendroid .91.

Since then, even 1.0.1 breaks the wifi. You guys should take a look at the code
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
I just flashed 2.5 beta, no wifi issues but the kernel seems to be more lagy then 2.0 beta. I'm going to change my gorvenor and report back.

When I opened SetCPU the default governor was ondemand, I changed it to conservative and it seems to fix the problem of laginess.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wase4711:
so far, running very smooth on 6.1.1;

will there be another update from 2.5 today, or, is that considered the "final"?

thank you!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jhoffy22:
Hey just wanted to let you know that I'm testing out 2.5 on the newest miui and the results are fantastic thus far. Phone had been off of the charger for about an hour (I've watched a whole episode if dexter :p) and I have yet to drop from 100%. Has me wondering if something is wrong with my phone :) Just dropped to 99 as I was typing this. Great work though guys! I should also mention that the kernel is making the phone run smooth as butter overclocked to 1100. With the conservative governor set as the default. No profiles.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aimbdd:
im still using it too.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Smac7:
I don't really know what the best option for charging is, I just know that however the stock evo kernel does it is wrong. Somebody needs to make one that makes it just charge like a normal phone. Is that possible to do? I have never in my life used a device that drops ten percent when it comes off the charger in the morning. Does anyone know how say... the epic charges? Is there anyway someone can develop a kernal that uses that method of charging?

Sent from the xda app on my htc evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigrushdog:
Just putting it out there

The MIUI Evo Porting and Development Team looks forward to including Savaged-Zen SBC powered kernels in our releases. We stand by SBC as the greatest thing since sliced bread. People fear what they do not understand. We look forward to beta testing new products from Savaged-Zen, and are hopeful that bluetooth issues can get sorted out.

Savaged-Zen + MIUI Evo Dev Team = Epic Win!
[EVO 4G Android Development] matt2053:
Search SBC and read. Spend a couple of hours at least on this. Read. Evaluate. Decide.
[EVO 4G Android Development] paranoid android85:
I tried putting the threshold settings @up 95/down 93 and freq step @ 50 yesterday and my battery life was even better! Before I go to sleep my battery is usually around 30% last night it was @ 50%. Thanks for the advice MS!
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
OH what a great morning!!! Thank you very much for your support BRD!!! We look forward to working with you and your team. We will be working with you as soon as we figure out the last issue on .37 we are facing so be ready to hear from us soon
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tyzing:
This is why I love MIUI and everything about them! Went from switching ROM's once a week to on this for 2 or 3 months now!

Thank you!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tyzing:
Trying your settings now....if you some how extend my battery life even more I'm going to go nuts.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tyzing:
My Gmail Push is not working all the time....sometimes items will be pushed then sometimes when I notice I havent gotten an email a little bit I'll refresh and receive 10....I've tried to make sure all my settings are correct (I may be over looking something though) and made sure the firewall was not blocking Gmail access on 3G

Is this a kernel issue or rom issue?

Thanks guys!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Rom/App issue
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ichiban Rei:
Hell yea! I was a little worried it would be changed after all of the recent developments...

I hadn't used MIUI since November and just returned for the 12.31 release. The battery life has been awesome! Why did I ever leave such an amazing rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rain91:
I've had a similar issue. Try uninstalling Gmail updates from market then reinstalling.

CM 6.1.2

Amon-Ra 2.2.1
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tyzing:
I cant "uninstall system files" and when I'm on the Gmail screen in the market the only option is to "open" nothing else....hmmmmm....dont really wanna uninstall using TB b/c I'm afraid I wont be able to reinstall it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] MikeC84:
SBC was removed from this right?
[EVO 4G Android Development] pardonmyownage:
for now yes... the two 1.6 builds in the first post have NO SBC

we will see SBC return with Savaged-Zen
[EVO 4G Android Development] halorin:
From the links that are posted now, yeah. I'm sure someone can send you the SBC versions though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Justin.G11:
Quick FYI the BFS link appears to be broken... only the CFS works for me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aimbdd:
yep. it has been posted before. they havnt put it up yet.
[EVO 4G Android Development] conflikt:
Thanks for an awesome kernel. Glad you guys ironed out your differences and now are teamed up, kernels will be very good, as Zen and savage are top kernels benchmark wise on evo benchers site.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Just_s:
And from what I see, most of us MIUI users look forward to the reunion with SBC.

Best Devs + Best kernels + Best ROM = BEST EVO EXPERIENCE period!
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
+1.

10 chars.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bwtl1000r:
I have read over the controversy of the SBC. The long posts with the pros and cons. Lots of solid theory and the like. I for one have been using sbc and really enjoy it. I am willing to burn through batteries and take what I feel is a negligible, if existent, risk of life and limb. I will do my part in making sure my evo doesn't cause any forest fires. Thank you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] themassofthesun:
If I've been understanding those posts correctly, then if you have a extended battery then you should be fine because the non-sbc don't even remotely charge it fully.

Swyped from my EVO running CyanogenMod 6.1 Nightlies
[EVO 4G Android Development] LuvThyMetal:
Man I wish these kernels worked for sense roms so i can test them
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
Thought I was reading a different thread for a second... Disregard, please.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
New Twitter Account

Follow our progress on twitter @SZGIT
[EVO 4G Android Development] aimbdd:
Since you guys will be doing a lot of versions now I would be happy to beta test if you need more people.

Sent from my salvage gb evo!
[EVO 4G Android Development] conflikt:
Second link is down for the bfs version.
[EVO 4G Android Development] danielt14:
Profile Help

ok, so my battery life is not too good i must be doing something wrong. i am going to hop on the 1.6 CFS right now. Can some one post their profiles so i can get an idea what to do. Thanks :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] conflikt:
I'm having the same problem with cfs. Your phone may not like cfs ;]
[EVO 4G Android Development] themassofthesun:
Here's mine

Swyped from my EVO running CyanogenMod 6.1 Nightlies
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
stock kernels run cfs
[EVO 4G Android Development] danielt14:
cool thanks for the tips so im on CM 6.12 should i run BFS?
[EVO 4G Android Development] itlnstln:
You can try it. If you don't like it, go with the CFS. It just depends on your phone. Personally, I like CFS. CFS will always be solid.
[EVO 4G Android Development] danielt14:
i dont get it.

Hey why dont i have ondemand? I just flashed the 1.6? what are you on?
[EVO 4G Android Development] conflikt:
Did you whipe cache/davlik cache & disable/uninstall setcpu before flashing?
[EVO 4G Android Development] danielt14:
I know i wiped but did not disalbe/unistall setcpu going to try that. :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] danielt14:
ok, so this has to be related to the kernel (i could be wrong :p). Setcpu 2.10

but under the Savage Kernel 1.5 I have for following Scaling options:

smartass

interactive

ondemand

userspace

powersave

conservative

performance

under Savage Kernel 1.6 I have the following Scaling options:

smartass

interactive

conservative

performance

so i just flashed again 1.6. so i am going to set my profiles on conservative. i also uninstalled setcpu and reinstalled it and got the same scaling options. So this is why i think it has to do with the kernel. If im missing something let me know.
[EVO 4G Android Development] conflikt:
Can one of the ops please fix the bfs download link?
[EVO 4G Android Development] conflikt:
Strange, on 1.6 cfs I have

Conservative

Interactive

Performance

On demand

Userspace

Powersave.

Don't have smartass
[EVO 4G Android Development] mlin:
I may be wrong but I believe bfs was pulled because it is an SBC kernel and currently there is poor evidence circulating that suggest they may be dangerous.

Tapa tapa tapa
[EVO 4G Android Development] conflikt:
Thanks, I still have the bfs SBC build.
[EVO 4G Android Development] matt2053:
Nevermind.
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
Here are the latest builds. They don't have SBC and have the missing governors. That was NY mistake. Josh will update the OP later.

CFS: http://db.tt/enGXqp9

BFS: http://db.tt/nfSusVs
[EVO 4G Android Development] danielt14:
Going to flash right now thanks you guys!!!!

Yup after flashing that update they are all there im on the CFS right now trying it. what is fast CFS or BFS?
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
I suggest you try both. My phone usually likes CFS better but some handle bfs pretty good
[EVO 4G Android Development] conflikt:
Strange, my phone has much better battery life with bfs, performance is lacking though. Cfs is much faster for me although battery life is no where close to bfs. Anyone care to share there bfs profiles?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nuetron:
Does the new build have CM alpha 2 wimax stuff in it?
[EVO 4G Android Development] twiz0r:
No

Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] nosfanatic2006:
Running Salavage.9.6 ROM with Savage v1.6 with SBC. Overclocked to 1113600, up threshold set to 95, down threshold 93, frequency step at 50.

Battery at 25% after 17 hours with moderate-heavymoderate usage

Sent from a Salvaged Savage of an Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] psixichka:
can someone explain this? or point me to where i can read more abt it? my batt life sucks!

thanks