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[Desire HD General] springy:
They are running, but they are in sleep mode, they basically stay in memory. This is better because when you do relaunch the app, the system does not have to re-open the app back into memory and therefore save power.

That is why when you use task manager it reopens because it is trying to keep them in memory.

The android system will only remove the app from memory when it needs the memory. Just don't use task killer, it will use more battery.
[Desire HD General] ToneyEricsson:
Thanks for clarifying I wont use the Task Killer at all then.
[Desire HD General] androidy:
So let me get this straight ...

I should not install the update which is waiting for me '1.75.161.2_R'

and I should wait for a newer one.

I'm currently on, Vodafone UK :

Android: 2.2

Baseband: 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M

Kernel: 2.6.32.21-gf3f553d

Build: 1.39.161.1

Software: 1.39.161.1

Phone is one day old.

Thanks to the person who can clear this up... after reading the whole thread I'm none the wiser!
[Desire HD General] makbil:
There are a number of users experiencing some issues with 1.72 so if the 1.75 is based on it you may get the same issues. It's best to wait a while.
[Desire HD General] [Adama]:
I from germany (as you can see) and I got the DHD without branding or simlock. Its clean!

Android-Version 2.2

Built-Number: 1.32.405.6

Software-Number: 1.32.405.6

So, its correct that htc pulled the update back? because i wonder why the phone tells my that im up-to-date, although theres should be a new version available?
[Desire HD General] ToneyEricsson:
Yeah 1.32 as above in my screen shot is what sin free is on. An newer update was pulled by HTC I'm showing as up to date too. Network specific handsets appear to each have there own software versions.
[Desire HD General] Exasperated:
Hi

It appears that (from posts on the android site) that when people send their phones back to HTC after this shambles of an update for fixing, what they seem to do is replace the SD card and roll back to 1.32.

Why don't they sort out some software to do that for everyone and then start again so everyone is at the same update point??? At the moment, they are in the situation of having probably 20% of the population with Desire HD with malfunctioning phones with the 1.72 update, another 50% who have it but are ok and another 30% who don't have it at all. How is that going to work when they release a new update? Does anyone with any techie knowledge know whther a software release usually builds on a previous version or removes it completely before installing the update??
[Desire HD General] androidy:
1.75.161.2_R

Install or wait ?

I don't care about rooting my phone.. just would like to know if the update is buggy or not.
[Desire HD General] sengork:
Depends if you're into gambling.
[Desire HD General] makbil:
It depends on the type of the update. As a rule, any update that does not fully erase your device will be a version specific update (like the 1.72 OTA we just got), whereas if the update is in the form of a complete ROM package, it will be version independent.
[Desire HD General] Exasperated:
To Androidy - I wouldn't!!
[Desire HD General] jurasgd:
Well, it didn't do anything in my case. Just installed it on Monday before seing this thread :)
[Desire HD General] dazza_84:
Yeah I'm also seeing 1.75 update but will hold back for the time being just incase
[Desire HD General] xazac:
Uhm, I'm still at 1.72 and I can't see any update.. :/
[Desire HD General] l0w:
I would qualify that by saying there are apps that will not only stay in memory but continue to run and consume battery even if you are not using them. If you find you have such apps running and eating battery then killing them can be worthwhile.

Sent from my HTC HD so may contain typos, bugs and, if the battery lasts, pearls of....(battery 0%)
[Desire HD General] freecom2:
So there's a new update - anyone report anything back from it at all? (from someone who held back on 1.72)
[Desire HD General] mjt:
No update visible for me too.... is 1.75 operator specific?
[Desire HD General] makbil:
No, there is no new update.
[Desire HD General] Rodix85:
Why do you think that there's a new update?

Can you post the source of your information please?

Thx!
[Desire HD General] m7svk:
Hi All,

I am on 1.72.405.3, vodafone uk, unrooted official rom, phone is sim free, no any updates available for the moment, I would like to see and try 1.75 if they done something about sms bug and few others..
[Desire HD General] MAkS1:
I think 1.75 is the same as 1.72, only branded.....
[Desire HD General] letom:
I don't think so because It came up with 1.72 ages ago when I checked for updates then about 2 weeks ago the update wasn't there a few days ago when I check it was 1.75 now it cant find any update. Just as I said above I haven't updated nor ever have, I'm on 1.39 and mine is branded T mobile.
[Desire HD General] ToneyEricsson:
Ok just an update about Watchdog

Since using it I haven't had any notifications about apps running in the background going above the threshold.

It only actually seems to give notifications of apps I am using when actually in use.
[Desire HD General] dazza_84:
Loool I wanna update to 1.75 but don't wanna mess anything up, is the 1.75 update the actual 2.2.1 update? I'm Vodafone branded in UK, and CAN see a 1.75 update but just unsure what to do as I'm a newbie?
[Desire HD General] EddyOS:
Yes it's 2.2.1
[Desire HD General] shithead:
I've ordered my Desire HD! Can't wait to get it, but those OTA's are quite weird, i mean HTC are quite good at updated and bugfixed. I think HTC is probably waiting for 2.3.2 or 2.4 where the sms-bugs are probably will be solved by then
[Desire HD General] makbil:
SMS bug is not a general issue. From what I've read, this SMS and SD card issue affects only a small percentage of total users, still unacceptable of course.

There is a more serious issue with Sense (again, not everyone is bugged by this) and it really stalls the device after 5-6 hours (my solution: restart every 5 hours). Overall, HTC needs to have better test procedures imho.
[Desire HD General] shithead:
Oh, weird. I hope the next ota will be GB with more stable Sense on it :)
[Desire HD General] wblancqu:
I'm still on "1.32.405.6". Still no update available for me :( Anyone know what is going on?
[Desire HD General] makbil:
Yeah, I wish :) The question is: can an upgrade to GB be done without wiping the device.
[Desire HD General] shithead:
Is that a normal procedure on Android? Desire HD will be my first Android device, but I thought, since 2.2, everything will be backed up on Google servers, isn't it?
[Desire HD General] makbil:
I don't know how comfortable I am with Google having access to all my data but that is another topic.

Google keeps backups of your contacts and calendar, for all other things you need help from 3rd party sw:

1- SMS & calls backup - SMS Backup+

2- List of programs downloaded from the Market - App List Backup

I don't like to backup/restore when I'm upgrading OS, it's prone to introducing bugs that are meant to be fixed.
[Desire HD General] shithead:
True. Although I think it's possible to update without losing data, but you better be safe ;-)
[Desire HD General] tony_reilly:
Have you got a link to "Market History"? I have been using SMS Backup+ for a long time and love it, but not heard of that and don't seem to be able to find it!
[Desire HD General] makbil:
Sorry, it's App List Backup, it'a available on the Android Market.
[Desire HD General] olivierlee:
The Desire HD already stores your downloaded apps list online.
[Desire HD General] ToneyEricsson:
Same as me and others, its the latest version for sim free DHD. HTC did release a newer version but it was pulled.
[Desire HD General] makbil:
You mean the Android Market keeps a list of what apps you downloaded from it, right, but what about apps you got elsewhere or installed manually?
[Desire HD General] s0litaire:
They only record what apps you get via the market.

All others you'll have to either use "Titianium Backup" to restore data and apps or find and reinstall the apps manually.
[Desire HD General] makbil:
Yes and that was my point. If you use App List Backup you have a full list of all the programs you have installed on your device saved on your SD card.
[Desire HD General] dingbatt:
I have just installed an app called Appsaver from market that saves your installed apps apk files to sdcard. It seems to have the facility to install/uninstall although I haven't tried it yet. It seems it would save the pain of individually downloading apps after a reset. Doesn't save app data though, but it doesn't require root like titanium backup does.
[Desire HD General] darkfms2000:
Update of 2.2.1

Guys, the update does not that such time in the case that your internet speed is fast, I remember updating it in between 10 to 15 mins.

I have noticed that the OS version changed to 2.2.1, have not really noticed really changes on the operation but since the update case at a time that I have not used the phone much.

I hope that I at some help to you guys here.

Thanks, Faisal
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
http://twitter.com/htc
[Desire HD General] Cartier23:
No-rooted, no branded DHD here. Got update just now.

Slovenia
[Desire HD General] HNKS:
So carrier locked phones have to wait even longer?
[Desire HD General] robE9:
do you have usb debbuging on ?

I noticed that life battery is really nice now for me, drained just 1% in 2 hours (idle)
[Desire HD General] Dragonlove:
No, Netcom Branded here from Norway, just got the update :)
[Desire HD General] LordManhattan:
Same here! :D
[Desire HD General] HNKS:
Good news. Still waiting here in the UK :(
[Desire HD General] naira1:
Just got the update, T-mobile branding. It says better system performance and camera feature enhancement
[Desire HD General] andreasy:
So it seems that all countries except UK or perhaps, phones purchased from UK, see the update?

Strange. Why would they filter UK out? It's usually the other way round :p

Anyone purchased from UK shop (like me) and sees the update?
[Desire HD General] jorjino2000:
Just downloaded and instaled.

Phone is little faster, Internet app is faster too.

Camera seems to be improved too, but will test tomorrow.

Regards.
[Desire HD General] coendeurloo:
Got the update on a Vodafone branded DHD as well, too bad the whole thing crashes when I try to update because of the Clockwork recovery mod...anyone knows how to undo that mod?
[Desire HD General] tmh:
It's available here in Denmark as well, just don't know if I want to lose root :( I mean who knows how long it'll take before a root solution will be out for this bad boy.

Oh the dilemma before Christmas...
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
im rooted and have the ENG S-OFF with clockwork recovery installed. What would happen if i attempt to update? I'll probably lose root but what about s-off? And does it matter that clockwork is installed? Im still using the stock rom though..
[Desire HD General] darrenjdoc:
Easy answer - Dont and leave it to the devs :)
[Desire HD General] tmh:
Hehe, true, but then I'd have to make it ready for custom ROM's etc. too = more work and learning for me ;)
[Desire HD General] HNKS:
I guess the UK floated out of Europe then. Lol seriously, why are we last!
[Desire HD General] buzzman:
Installed, works so far. But no intensive testing yet.

Unlocked and no branding, Switzerland
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
before you try anything, insure you have radio S-OFF it takes a second to do, otherwise you can't go back

with radio s-off you can update and downgrade later if they never found a root solution, you will loose en s-off with this update, but radio s-off stays

use this tool http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=857537
[Desire HD General] andreasy:
What, do you see the update?
[Desire HD General] mjehan:
Does this mean the init bug has been fixed ? Do we still need to keep the USB debugging on ?
[Desire HD General] dazza_84:
Well updated last nite to 1.75 and am now havin some problems with not being notified when I get an sms and when I do get one it doesn't clear in the notification menu tut, I knew I shouldn't have updated lol curiosity just got the better of me tut, so now I gotta wait till either HTC bring out an update to fix it or till they release gingerbread tuuuut
[Desire HD General] olivierlee:
I had the same problem when updating to 1.72. Gave Handcent a try and now I'm not going back to the HTC SMS app.
[Desire HD General] abelgs:
Hi everyone,

Im a brazilian and i get DHD recently.

In my country DHD is not for sale, how can i update to 2.2.1?
[Desire HD General] dazza_84:
Is there anyway for me to go back to 1.39 without rooting or anything? Sorry I'm newbie, I was totally happy with how it was running on 1.39 just like I said it was curiosity that made me update loool
[Desire HD General] makbil:
It doesn't matter if DHD is not sold in your country. Check system update from settings, if there is an update it will show there but HTC has pulled the update, for now so you'll have to wait.
[Desire HD General] mrsandman_sp:
I had a Desire bought in Spain that I managed to update when i was in Brazil, now i got this Desire HD and i was prompted to update when i was travelling and decided to postpone, now i can't find it anymore, was that even more buggy than the 1.32? The only problem I've faced in the old Desire was the lack of space to install big apps, but in this DHD theres a lot of other problems.... i was hopping that the update would solve them... :(
[Desire HD General] shithead:
There were problems with the latest update. HTC removed the update and are working on another update ;-)

So be happy you didn't updated it, because the (original) 1.72/1.75 update made the Desire HD really bad.

So stick to the current original rom and wait until HTC releases a new update ;)
[Desire HD General] lillysdaddy177:
Just reinstated my stock Rom add I'm waiting for the camera fix....
[Desire HD General] wid0w:
htc

HTC said:

So I guess I won't be expecting anything official soon then?

They recently announced 5 new poopie-phones (compared to DHD) and a tablet. Some of the phones have 2.2 some 2.3 and 1 of them has 2.4 I think. I sincerely hope that those won't be the only ones with 2.3
[Desire HD General] LordManhattan:
If the DHD doesn't get updated, i'll throw my phone in their face and buy the iPhone 5 when it comes, and get a minimum update support for at least two years. I bought my DHD in december, and i do not accept this crap.
[Desire HD General] TronC:
I agree with you mate, HTC must bring us the update, they cant force us to buy the Incredible S 4 months after the Desire HD got released! :mad:

They must understand that 90% who have the DHD got it with a 2-year contract... :(
[Desire HD General] ToneyEricsson:
I don't actually see much of a difference between the DHD and Incredible S unless I'm mistaken its the same phone?

Something else I hope HTC updates is htcsense.com as its not working properly and this was one of the selling points of the DHD.
[Desire HD General] mrsandman_sp:
Just read today, gingerbread on DHD programmed to June... wait and see...
[Desire HD General] ToneyEricsson:
I wonder what will be new if anything with functionality of the DHD.

A couple things which I think need addressing is having image stabilizer within the camera and not have to use a third party app as many people get blurred photos.

The video could also be improved by having improved continuous focus.
[Desire HD General] DeathJester:
Just downloaded a system software update. Orange UK.
[Desire HD General] dadon123:
What software number is it?
[Desire HD General] rudiansen:
leaked

anybody tried this?

http://pocketnow.com/android/gingerbread-for-htc-desire-hd-test-rom-leaked
[Desire HD General] dazza_84:
Has anyone tried the download from the link above yet?
[Desire HD General] RED_:
They really need to fix the issue found in this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=887098&page=14

Its a big one too, they don't seem to acknowledge it either when you get in touch with them.

HTC are messing about a little now, they started off brilliant but a few faults have occurred and generally poor service from things like htcsense.com. If it was this bad on release then they shouldn't have released it. Bad for their image.

I think i might go for a google phone next. Provided it's not made by Samgsung. That'll mean HTC won't it? :D That's 2 years away though!
[Desire HD General] niks_5in:
I updated it and not able to see real changes. Gps connected a bit fast. Has anyone have Changlog
[Desire HD General] mbeats:
My last official OTA update killed my gps.

Vodafone wasn´t able to fix it in between 4 Weeks.

That´s the reason I rooted my phone and did flash custom roms.

The best decision I could make :D
[Desire HD General] Flussen:
15.March 2011

7. September 2011

Just saying.

Sent out of my Free-Candy-Van. Your kids are safe in there. Trust me.
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
cool i'll do that right now. Just to make sure, its ok to use this tool even though i already have eng s-off and clockwork recovery? Those dont interfere in any way do they? I ask because the instructions there assume you have a stock system before installing it.

edit: nvm, reading comments there it should work

actually i dont. im just trying to prepare for it :)
[Desire HD General] MaybachMan:
The update won't work unless you have stock recovery.
[Desire HD General] thetmyster:
@HTC And @HTC_eu are saying this is not gingerbread, so its soul purpose is to try to get rid of the root..... just my thinking because thats what iOS 4.01 was for, with no real other use...

My question , is when the DHD gets Gingerbread, if it does... and it bloody well better. Will it be before 2.4, Honeycomb is out in Febuary, 2011?

http://androidandme.com/2010/12/new...e-released-as-android-2-4-in-february-at-mwc/
[Desire HD General] dmanbwxe:
Personally I think assuming Honeycomb isn't tablet specific and assuming it is out in February (I heard march but who knows) there is almost no way HTC will release Gingerbread for DHD/Z. Going by there previous update history and even taking into account that its easier for HTC to update from 2.2 to 2.3 it would make more sense to bypass gingerbread and go straight to Honeycomb. Although whats logical and what they do are two different things. They will probably take all year update to Gingerbread and leave it at that making us buy a new phone again. Capitalism is a *****! But they are in the business of selling phones after all.

So I guess the moral of this story is, like cyanogen says... Never ask for ETA's! lol
[Desire HD General] chillaxx:
I have a stock rom. After OTA device seems faster. Also flash is better on youtube, the bottom "search" bar works now. Seems to be a good update?
[Desire HD General] kidkreole:
We in NL are also enjoying ota update , did download pretty fast (within less than 15 min....) now it has to install.....

To be continued...
[Desire HD General] MaybachMan:
HTC are actually pretty reliable with Android updates, especially when you compare them to Sony Ericsson and Samsung, both of which ship brand new phones with outdated versions of Android.

Hell, last I checked, the X10 Mini was still stuck on 1.6 officially.
[Desire HD General] Evil-Dragon:
DHD on Orange in UK. Also no update :(
[Desire HD General] pshdo:
Info:

X10, X10 Mini and mini pro, and x8 are @ 2.1 officially...;)

And x10 is getting yet an other update these days...

But i love my new DHD, it is SO mutch better than my X10 in every way...

BTW:

I also got the new HTC update today here in Denmark, and lost root offcource...;)
[Desire HD General] japester36:
Unbranded on T-Mobile in UK, also no update.
[Desire HD General] MaybachMan:
Oh yeah, they got bumped up to 2.1 days before the release of 2.3.

A bit later, Samsung released their "ticker" phone with 2.1 loaded on.

Meanwhile, HTC has phones running 2.2.

I'd say they have a pretty good track record.
[Desire HD General] pshdo:
You are right, Sony is lightyears behind in every way possible...
[Desire HD General] MaybachMan:
"You can have your doubts about when your phone maker will finally get around to delivering an Android 2.3 update (March if you're with HTC, June if Samsung, 2017 if you're unfortunate enough to own a Sony Ericsson)" -Engadget ;)
[Desire HD General] anheuer:
What to do, what to do..

new update or setcpu and adfree..

hmm...
[Desire HD General] sparven89:
Greetings from Sweden! :D

I did just received the update to my DHD. And the first impression of it.....

Nothing! Not a single thing did improve. But I will return when I got some more time with this new release.

But before I run away for a couple of days (during this christmas), is there any whishes for specific tests you people want some answers for?
[Desire HD General] robE9:
What score do you guys(ppl with update stock kernel not other optimised kernels) get in Quadrant after update ? sometimes i even get 1450 and sometimes 2000 , weird.
[Desire HD General] aspirina:
Got mine, unbranded and unlocked bought from Pixmania Spain.
[Desire HD General] flemminghave:
Is it me or did they increase the volume.? I was listening to some music after the update and I think it's been improved, had to turn down the volume for once.:-)
[Desire HD General] flindell:
hmm i have s-off and try do the ota update and it fail and shows a ! whats wrong? boot normal when i take out the battery and restart..
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
in fact just updated even its low end and out of production phones to froyo, legend, aria and wildfire, even HTC magic got it

shame they left hero out, anyway they made it clear its a bugs fix update based on feedback, also remember android 2.2.1 prepares for gingerbread
[Desire HD General] ruffleader:
I just cannot get this update to install but it may be down to something with how I am set up as this is my first Android phone and of course my first root.

I am rooted and I have S-OFF. When I go to install the update it boots to the screen of the little Android mascot with the white triangle and yellow exclamation mark. Removing the battery and booting takes me straight back to the home screen and everything is fine.

What should I do in order to make it install?
[Desire HD General] bobbyphoenix:
No update here in the USA. :-(
[Desire HD General] kuldvee@gmail.com:
Hi,

I have DHD with stock 1.32.405.6 ROM from HTC with s-off and clockworkrecovery installed already, trying to update brings me to yellow question mark on reboot.

I can revert by removing battery.

Is there any solution to get this update without big mess (have to figure out how to revert factory settings 100%)? I could do that also, but cant find just right steps or how to, how reset clockwork and s-off painlessly.
[Desire HD General] Dyonas:
Don't forget Motorola! Promised Q4 2010 initial deployment of FroYo for the EU Milestone, waited until 22nd December and basically said, "Yeah... not happening, but for sure Q1 2011, honest!"

I know it won't happen but I would genuinely love to see some change brought in by Google that updates *must* be released within a reasonable timeframe, perhaps three months, for capable phones or the manufacturer loses the Android Market on all future phones. Something, anything, that would really make them get their act together and stop treating customers like ****... Flash ready? Yeah.. photo flash!
[Desire HD General] dukynko:
In Slovakia just updated :). No branded phone from O2.
[Desire HD General] hrkfdn:
Thats probably because you have S-Off or ClockworkMod. For OTA Updates you need stock recovery.. Or you can try to flash the update manually.
[Desire HD General] kuldvee@gmail.com:
How can i update manually? Download zip and flash it with clockworkmod?
[Desire HD General] ErMeglio:
Same problem here! How to do that without messing something up? I've unrooted but still no luck! And I have a psfmod recovery installed, that says "failed to verify whole-file signature" and stops there with the esclamation mark. It provides an option to install an update.zip. Well, I'd like to mantain my settings/data etc.. too!!!

Thanks!

Sent from my Desire HD