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[EVO 4G Android Development] goodboynyc:
I flashed 1.5.2 CFS over 2 hours ago and still at 100% after uploading a picture and a few texts. I have yet to get a random reboot. Let's see how it goes during the night.
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
Why do some people dislike SBC? Just curious
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
Jealousy... just saying

Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rstuckmaier:
Flashed the CFS and wifi works fine.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nosfanatic2006:
Add myself to the BFS Wifi "error"
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
Hey,

Been watching this these for awhile and decided to flash 1.6 bfs today with the same wifi error others are getting. Flashed the cfs version and everything is fine. Im going to test WiMax in a bit.

Just out of curiousity, is (or will there be) a non sbc version of this kernel?

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[EVO 4G Android Development] firegoblin:
Running 1.6 cfs with no problems. Want to flash to bfs but read that everyone is having wifi issues. Idk if this version of the kernel does it but I know that both the 1.5.2 versions had wifi reconnect issues I always had to turn wifi off then back on for it to connect after I got out of range.

P.s. sorry if I don't make much sense its late and im tired
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tiffany84:
View attachment Savage-Kernel-v1-5-CFS-HAVS.zip

Here is the version without sbc. Sorry it took so long. I had a family emergency and had to leave.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aimbdd:
no problems with cfs here. Gps is close but not quite there.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
You should see our thread in the Incredible forum... LOL it was like "ATTACK OF THE SBC HATERS!!!" people were even posting pics of someone getting burned from a battery on fire... it was hilarious...
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
BFS Wifi Issues

Can someone please post a logcat of the wifi issues you are having with the BFS kernel.. not sure if it has to do with the new version of BFS or something. But we'd appreciate it.

I dont have time to flash and get the info myself because we are busy working on .36 kernel. We actually decided to collaborate with another kernel dev on this site on building the base version, so that should help the progress move along faster.
[EVO 4G Android Development] paranoid android85:
Zendroid?
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
Yeah. We stopped beefing and got our act together and decided to work together rather than hate each other. This is all thanks to all the users that suggested the collaboration which we feel will bring lots of good things to future kernels
[EVO 4G Android Development] jxs1984:
well heres my update... very impressive. i dont know if the battery percentage is accurate but i will continue to monitor the battery life until it reaches the very end. normally when i reach 22 hours, the battery percentage would be around 15% or so. i have wifi policy set to never sleep and setcpu governor at conservative with screen off profile set to conservative 245/384. my moderate usage are: my weather updates every 2 hours. i respond to text messages all day. i get constant scam emails all day. i check facebook about 4 or 5 times a day. youtube'd 2 or 3 videos. checked a website or 2. typed a list in my notepad. you get the idea... i dont leave the phone on my desk with the screen off all day lol.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nosfanatic2006:
I'll upload my logcat in a few minutes...

I have no idea what I'm looking at, but it looks like it just doesn't have the drivers? Let me know if you want me to record it using a different program, or upload it differently
[EVO 4G Android Development] paranoid android85:
:Dthats awesome!....lol so can i get credit for suggesting the collaboration? :cool:
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Thank you sir... i'll do a re-compile of BFS today and get it out before i Leave work at 3pm.
[EVO 4G Android Development] minhgi:
Just install 1.6 CFS. Will let see how it last the whole day. Performance is good.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
1.6 BFS

Just uploaded the re-compiled version of BFS. If you want BFS just redownload and try.

Thanks!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] paranoid android85:
thanks for v1.6 cfs! runs like butta
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
Awesome, thanks for your hard work.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] nosfanatic2006:
Awesome! Check your donation box tonight
[EVO 4G Android Development] goodboynyc:
No blreboots while using 1.5.2 but I also am not able to use the camera on hw3 with the newer camera. I was able to use the camera in 1.5 but I was getting a lot of reboots. Battery life right now is at 15hrs with 20% used, 80% left.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Envynet:
Some people don't like to risk the phone they have for a dumb reason like getting a hole extra 5-10% extra battery in the morning.

It has already been stated by many reliable sources that it is dangerous to use in that it slowly ruins your battery and increases the risk of destroying your device.

There is a reason NO phone manufacturer uses this type of charging technique..
[EVO 4G Android Development] aimbdd:
Not true. It does NOT damage your phone in ANY way. Now the battery, it will deffinetly shorten the life span. This mod does NOT over charge it. That is what would cause damage possibly to the phone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tenny:
Old 1.6 BFS: C359527344C283797F949903A05E9C56

New 1.6 BFS: 07B72804EE26FF59C97B8173BAEA053A

The new 1.6 BFS's wifi works great! Thanks!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] gregabyte:
What's new in 1.6?

Hi, I see in the release notes for 1.6 this:

Upgraded to CM .10 commits (CM7 Kernel)

I want to see what that consists of, but I am not sure where to look to find the CM7 kernel - which of the many cyanogen github projects is the Evo kernel in?

Thanks!

Greg
[EVO 4G Android Development] wanfaltm:
Since installing this kernel my phone has been rebooting like crazy. Just about every 5 minutes or so. Ill try and redo it later to hopefully get better results. Using CFS 1.6 by the way.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Where are you getting your information from? Have you looked at the code of SBC

What it does is keeps your battery charged to 100% not any higher... as well it corrects the voltage so that it charges better(well within manufactures specs) as well it doesnt use battery statistics about % it actually calculates the percentage based on the amount of power your battery has at full charge and how much has been used. So its more accurate.

v9 is going to be even more indepth, but by no means does it do any harm or overcharge your battery. I would like to see information from your reliable sources to prove it actually does harm... The code is in my git. under arch/arm/mach-msm/htc_battery_ms(something).c

you can read the code if your familiar with C and know for sure yourself.

Also if you have questions or concerns about SBC, it would probably be best to ask them in the SBC Dev's thread so he can answer then directly.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
004 Hardware User Request

I need a new 004 Tester that has time to do testing. As i want to get this last issue resolved before we cease .35 and release .36

I will be putting up a post about Savage v2 in the coming days to start to gather testers that have different hardware versions and different roms they use. with the Key aspect of actually having time to test them with priority.
[EVO 4G Android Development] goodboynyc:
Id like to help if it means being able to get a solid kernel that supports my camera.

Hw0003

Hboot 2.02

Shipped with 3.30
[EVO 4G Android Development] nosfanatic2006:
Wifi working beautifly on recompiled BFS v1.6 :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] conflikt:
Because I have 2 extended batteries, no need to ruin my battery for an extra 10%. Just saying ;]

Or shall I say take a chance of messing up my battery. My buddy is an electrical engineer, he said he would be cautious. Other buddy is a software engineer, worked for HTC/ government companies and said he would be careful as well. They didn't say it would do damage. Also Ziggy made a huge write up on it, he works for a government agency.
[EVO 4G Android Development] minhgi:
Been on the phone for the last 4 hours and phone is at 60%. Great stuff. Cfs 1. 6 cyanogen 6. 1. 2 latest all.

Doing a little of everything.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rstuckmaier:
Ok, I've been following this thread and updating since you released this and I love your kernel. I have to ask this as it's been bugging me for a while:

Why do you have the CFS builds labeled "Click here to download this beast" while BFS is just "Click here to download"?

My understanding is that BFS is usually more "beastly" and I don't see anything in the changelogs or elsewhere that would show that the kernels are different other than the scheduler itself.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ChickenArise:
I'm an electrical engineer and I'd give the same advice: be cautious - read about it, take a glance at the code, follow the threads, keep backups, and remember that as soon as you rooted your phone you took a risk that may eventually cost you your phone.

then flash the kernel and enjoy :cool:
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
certain CFS tweaks that were added were major tweaks, some even that are used in .37... due to this and what it does for the kernel... It outperforms BFS 363 in every test we've run, and we think its beastly. :D

Not to be confused with v2's code name "BEAST"
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
yup well when someone just says. the charging has changed or it trickle charges, without knowledge from reviewing the code, one could be skeptical... i would say before anyone makes any accusations of the safety of SBC, to review the code (need knowledge of C first) ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] conflikt:
I will :p, thanks for linking that code.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rstuckmaier:
I'll have to hit you back tomorrow ;-)

Thank you though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] godfirst:
Not sure if this has been posted, but my camera does not take pictures after flashing 1.6 with CM 6.1.2. It opens but doesn't allow you to take the picture nor does it open the video camera period. Any ideas?
[EVO 4G Android Development] goodboynyc:
Its happened with me after 1.5.2
[EVO 4G Android Development] ChrisDos:
That would be fantastic. Can't wait for this to be native in CM.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wanfaltm:
So since I changed my governer to smartass its been perfectly fine .. I don't get it but whatever works.
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
Cam working fine for me and I was able to take pictures. Sometimes I had problems on CM6 with the camera app and q reboot would fix it. Please try it and if the issue continues please provide a logcat and we will look into it
[EVO 4G Android Development] TheMatrixx:
Nice kernel, but it'd be even nicer if this had better overclocking options, like down to 128 and up past 1190. :P
[EVO 4G Android Development] gregabyte:
1.5.2 bfs is working really well for me, should I bother upgrading to 1.6? I'm going to have to find a new hobby until cm7 comes out!
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
Yeah and then people would complain about not being stable ;-)

Overclocking past 1190 is not stable on most phones and we prefer stability and interactivity over anything else.
[EVO 4G Android Development] statecowboy:
I really shouldnt be responding as I am not qualified by any means, but did you try wiping cache before you flashed? I have the same set up as you and mine works fine. H0003.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aimbdd:
i second this. Wiping both caches.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
I can create a kernel to overclock you more its actually called Jesus mode. But I don't want to hear any complaints or be blamed when your phone Burns up haha
[EVO 4G Android Development] paranoid android85:
downloading now. looking foward to flashing. thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] krazyflipj:
Is conservative the governor for optimal performance?
[EVO 4G Android Development] exstatica:
I have a strange issue.

Whenever there is activity that is causing movement on the screen, the refresh rate on that section shows lines through it.

For example, the better charging animation. Lots and lots of little lines though it.

Anyone else seeing this?
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
Conservative is great on performance and battery life. I didn't use it in other kernels in the past as it was sluggish and slow. With the tweaks made, performance is good and battery life is great.

I got 35-37 linpack and almost 1600 overclocking using conservative.

Also, I enabled ipv6 on this bad boy. I think you complained about Bing unable to use goggles in zendroid. You will not have that problem here:-)

More tweaks and goodies coming soon. Stay tuned
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
Are you referring to screen tearing? What ROM are you using? CPU governor?

As much info you can provide to replicate the issue it would be great
[EVO 4G Android Development] evohog:
Been using beta 1 with no problems gonna try 2. Should we be using set cpu?
[EVO 4G Android Development] exstatica:
yes, I actually had to change kernels due to lockups and reboots. I'm running Myn's Rom. Set CPU as Conservative. Even lowered the speed to 800mhz, still lockups and reboots, and screen tearing.

I have a hard time using any kernel, No matter what I do, I always get reboots and lockups unless I go stock. I think I actually found one Kernel that works, its mostly stable.

I'm running the latest radio, latest wimax, Myn's Rls4, Hardware 002, I wipe cache, wipe dalvik. Nothing I do really works.
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
Setcpu is optional. This kernel has HAVS so no real need to use setcpu other than to change the governor.
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
That's why you're having the issue, because you're using a sense ROM. This kernel is optimized for AOSP ROMs (CyanogenMod, MIUI, Gingerbread kernels, etc). If you use on sense ROMs such as Myn's you will have this kind of issue
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
Good Evening, what's the default governor?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xhazyx:
I'm gonna take ur word for it and go ahead and use conservative governor....

What about smartass? Hows it behaving in thus kernel?, still prefer conservative over smartass?

So far I'm having a good experience... almost 45 mins unplugged, 91% left... and that's listening to music and ebuddy running the whole time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
Default governor is conservative
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
Thanks, i'm about to flash beta 2 now. Your previous kernel work excellent.
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
Oh that's good and if you leave charging overnight so the SBC does its thing battery will probably be better.

Smartass was tweaked in latest beta so it is running alot better and smoother and no more difficulty waking up.

Conservative and smartass are both great on latest beta. I suggest you try both and you be the judge :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] xhazyx:
Well I guess that's not too hard to do for my lazy self lol

Just out of curiosity where are u from?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
Leaving the phone charging overnight will improve the battery life?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xhazyx:
It should help.... as it 'trickle charges ' and allows the battery to reach it's maximum voltage. Instead of reaching 100 and then going back to 90% in cycles as it does normally
[EVO 4G Android Development] typeadam:
So far Beta2 is looking good. From the preliminary charge test is seems to be doing fine.

The voltage is higher across the board than the "SBC for New CM kernel!!" - 4088 while idle, 4207 while charging.

I guess the real test will be in the morning when I hope to see NO negative mAs in my batt log with a constant 2-5 mA trickle charge.

Only thing I'd say now is that this kernel is slightly lagging compared to "SBC for New CM kernel!!"

The min is set at 245 while the max is over 1k.

I'm not using SetCPU and do not wish to use it b/c of bad experience w/ it on my old Hero.

Question: does the min/max reflect idle vs heavy use clock speeds or battery charge percentage?

Meaning will the phone run at the min of 245 when it is idling or when the battery drops to a certain charge percentage?

Same w/ max - does it mean that it will run on max when it's being used or only when the battery is above a certain percentage?

Thanks, looking forward to updates!

I'll report in the morning how the overnight charge went and how long the charge holds throughout the morning! :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] lethalboy:
flashed beta 1 and it was running very well, now flashing beta 2 to see how it performs! Thanks for your hardwork
[EVO 4G Android Development] nuetron:
Getting tons of the following in "cat /proc/kmsg"

acpuclock: Unable to drop ACPU vdd: 384000.

acpuclock: Unable to drop ACPU vdd: 245000.

anyone else getting them?
[EVO 4G Android Development] twiz0r:
Wifi still disconnects and reconnects randomly for me while using phone...daaaamn

Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] IzzyIsaac:
Installed CM6.1.2 a couple days ago and the battery life blew big balls, so i went searching for a kernel to use and this is the first i tried and so far it's amazing..my phone actually has battery like a phone should. I dont know any specs or anything, i just know that i still have half a battery left after 6 hours. That is quite amazing compared to not having this kernel.

My wifi and camera and everything so far seems to work as well
[EVO 4G Android Development] tankcole:
I'll gladly test. I've got hardware 004!
[EVO 4G Android Development] conflikt:
He looked at the code, stated this...

lol why stop at 4.2? Why not put your own battery pack on there, and charge it to 12v? Its 4.1 for a reason, same reason why a cpu is rated at 3ghz, but can be overclocked to 3.6ghz. Granted some products will have better quality and can handle it but if all of them could handle that they wouldnt rate it for what its at. If you want a Cellphone get a cellphone, if you want a laptop get a laptop, if you want a umpc, get a umpc... When you attempt to mix multiple items into a single device you start having issues.. ie: a cell phone with producitivity apps, and entertain apps etc... first problem being battery life. Now that your attempting to hack up your phone to fix its battery life your gonna cause it to potentially explode in your ear.

Then said doesnt matter if its technically safe or not, its pushing the hardware to its limits, and considering your phone likely costs 400 bucks to replace its not worth it.. Ill take his word for it, granted he just coded software that does complete home automation with internet connectivity that allows him to check his motion detectors from anywhere in the world, see when the last movement occurred, see pics of inside his house, turn applicances on/off, change my thermostat settings, etc.

Langue wise he knows..

qb/qb45, vb3/4/5/6, vb.net, asp.net, c#, tcl (assembly language), pbasic, html, dhtml, xml, xslt, javascript, php, classic asp, x10 (duh), c++, c

and of course databasing... oracle, sql, ssas
[EVO 4G Android Development] mic402:
I too have 0004 hardware
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Ok batterys dont cost $400 if you have a problem with SBC, send a message to the dev. We like it here and the users of Savage like it. If you dont want to use it, then dont, no one is forcing you to.

So your electrical engineer can code in C? Did he find some hidden documentation that from HTC or the manufacture of HTC's batterys that say it should only be charged at 4.1? Technically the patch charges at a rate of 4.195, which is LESS than what the stock htc_battery.c charges at. hence why people started calling it trickle charge.

Like i said if you have a problem with SBC please express that with the Dev in his thread and he'll respond appropriately to your concerns. Now if you have a problem at which we run our frequency voltz at, or the different equations we use to make the kernel run faster, we'd love to hear feedback about that and will take any suggestions seriously.

Thanks :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] conflikt:
Kernel is fine, runs very good. but SBC scares me :confused:
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Dont let it.. go message the SBC dev... or better yet... try and find one person that has ever had issues with there battery because of it... its been out for a while...
[EVO 4G Android Development] aimbdd:
SBC trolls go elsewhere we don't want you here :p

To conflikt it does NOT overcharge it. so where is your logic? It charges the battery to a slightly LOWER voltage. Hmmmmm.
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
Did you set your wifi sleep policy to never?
[EVO 4G Android Development] twiz0r:
Yes it is set to never. Works fine on cm7 stock kernel. Does it all the time...it will have to reconnect by the time I post this message

Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] halorin:
I think if it was the problem you're afraid of it being there'd be a lot more reports of damaged phones or batteries. I haven't seen any at all.

Your call though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrcastillo:
Guys,

I think the focus of this thread is going away. This thread is for the Savage kernel, not SBC. We included SBC because it increases battery life tremendously and it is done safely. It is a great concept and the developer knows what he's doing. If you have any concerns I suggest you visit the SBC thread and ask questions or pm the developer.

We did provide a non SBC kernel a few days ago and many people complained about bad battery life and wanted it back. we promises a non SBC kernel and we will deliver that. I will commit to try to get it to you tomorrow.

we would appreciate if we continue to use the thread for issues or anything regarding the kernel itself and not talk about what electrical engineers are saying about this, because personally, I don't give a damn. I like the concept, have been using it since it came out and have not had any problems whatsoever. However, I respect everyone's opinion so to keep everyone happy we will provide a non SBC kernel going forward.

I apologize if I sound rude or my comment upsets anyone. I just feel like it is the wrong place to have a discussion about SBC. We appreciate your interest in our kernel and we will continue to work to make everyone happy. Thank you
[EVO 4G Android Development] nosfanatic2006:
I'm a glutton for ruining my toys, everything I have is used hard. I get bored easily so I'm always looking for a way to change/upgrade them >:), which is why I tried SBC.

If you guys have anything new and crazy for me to test, hit me up :-P

EDIT to reply to previous post, thank you again for the work you guys do, and respect for how well you treat everyone no matter their opinion (making non-SBC kernels as well)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jyarborough:
How did you get quadrant to work on cm7? It restarts everytime for me. Also has no visual for the second and third test
[EVO 4G Android Development] twiz0r:
I get it to work...but most of the graphics tests are blank for me. Gives me usually 1450-1500. Don't really pay attention to that score though obviously

Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] firegoblin:
I love sbc and im flashing it again right now because all the people crying cause they have an option for sbc. Cheers
[EVO 4G Android Development] minhgi:
Now at 20% of battery life.