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[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] android.francis:
google the latest USB driver for Samsung mobile phones. DL it, install it and Odin should see your phone afterwards
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
Isn't those the same as when installing Kies?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] android.francis:
Kies is an app not a driver. Ideally, KIES should also install the driver but I'm guessing yours got corrupted in the process.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thetmyster:
I believe the dhd comes with an 8gb SD card as standard?

If so where is it in the box?

ALSO how can I get the Des app?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thoms04:
Mine was already in the phone, same place as where the SIM goes.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thetmyster:
My phone is asking for a SD card.

I thought it would see in the box
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peschi:
Hello thetmyster, merry christmas,

when you look inside, is there anything in the sd slot?

Eventually the card is not right in position, then a push

or push back could help. I attached a picture of my

phone, to show you the place. Be carefull when opening

the damper, do it quite the way your manual shows it.

WBR peschi
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thetmyster:
Ah, thanks! But I can't seem to find it there either :(
[Captivate Accessories] Autocratic:
Just came in the mail. Will burn this partial charge down tonight and fully charge and see how it looks tomorrow.

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Perception Build 4
[Captivate Accessories] diablo009:
What is the size of this? Same as that of stock?
[Captivate Accessories] Autocratic:
Yes same size battery as stock.

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Perception Build 4
[Captivate Accessories] davwman:
Link?

"Thank god for replaceable batteries"
[Captivate Accessories] diablo009:
Thank you. Waiting for ur review now before I place my order for one. :-)
[Captivate Accessories] Autocratic:
On a side note, the battery physically feels heavier. Not sure if it's in my head or not bit we'll see.

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Perception Build 4
[Captivate Accessories] Autocratic:
Search ebay for "Samsung i9000 1800mah"

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Perception Build 4
[Captivate Accessories] davwman:
Weigh it.

"Thank god for replaceable batteries"
[Captivate Accessories] R5R:
what kind of run time are you getting compared to your previous battery? Can you do some tests to compare whether or not its just a fake label?
[Captivate Accessories] davwman:
Im really starting to consider buying two of these with a wall charger. At first I was all about the seidio 3000mah at $70 but I cant justify spending $70 on a battery, granted they are a reputable company. At $10 per this seems to make more sense.

"Thank god for replaceable batteries"
[Captivate Accessories] diablo009:
He said he just got it, and will see tomorrow. Maybe a couple days for him to publish any results.
[Captivate Accessories] diablo009:
+1 same thoughts here
[Captivate Accessories] davwman:
He is doing the tests, he is running down its shipping charge. What's the deal with the business class tag?

"Thank god for replaceable batteries"
[Captivate Accessories] MaxRabbit:
I bought the pack of 2 batteries and a charger for $7. It works great, only issue is that I can't charge the non-OEM batteries past 100% on the phone or it will shut off.
[Captivate Accessories] netnerd:
i have bought sony X1 and cappy imitations battery, it doesnt last long as original oem battery. dont believe everything you see! :p
[Captivate Accessories] Autocratic:
Yea I need to figure out how to do that. Don't know anyone who has a scale.

That got me wondering too. Maybe just a marketing thing.

Sent from my Windows 7 Desktop
[Captivate Accessories] davwman:
Need one of those digital food scales

"Thank god for replaceable batteries"
[Captivate Accessories] Autocratic:
7:25am - Phone powered on after full night charge with the phone off. Should be using a good amount of wifi today. Battery voltage says 4163mV.

I'm running oc'd 1200mhz & uv settings 100x5 75 with Perception" Creepy Eye" wallpaper.

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Perception Build 4
[Captivate Accessories] Autocratic:
So Ive made it down to 9% battery, but its been at that level for the past hour and half. Used wifi heavily today and watched a few youtube videos, played a few games and been on the internet most of the day. Battey says 3686mV. Local time is 5:45pm.

I think another full charge and battery reset should show longer run times. Will report tomorrow. Going to also try to find a scale this weekend.

Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Perception Build 4
[Captivate Accessories] Miami_Son:
What is this "battery reset" you speak of?
[Captivate Accessories] joeshmoe08:
I think he means battery stats clear (deleting battery stats.bin)
[Captivate Accessories] sjavvaji:
any more evaluations?...im looking to get it
[Captivate Accessories] Miami_Son:
OK, and the advantage of this is...?:confused:
[Captivate Accessories] sjavvaji:
making sure stored battery statistics aren't affecting the battery percentage
[Captivate Accessories] CuriousTech:
That sounds promising. Weight is usually a good indicator. Here are some comparisons: OEM 1500mA 32.2g, Andida 1850mA 29.2g, Mugen 1600mA 32.5g

So far the Andida is the worst of the 3 and the Mugen lasts longer but not noticably, just as you'd expect by weight.
[Captivate Accessories] vizographic:
Excellent, thank you for the mass measurements, I have been waiting for these numbers. I wish they were more promising. Either way, its the only way to cut through inflated amp hour numbers. Thanks again for sharing your work.
[Captivate Accessories] sjavvaji:
wait...no measurements were posted
[Captivate Accessories] phlunkie:
Or reviews on the battery.
[Captivate Accessories] ewingr:
I got one this week too. Same package. It weights 29g.

I am very unimpressed. I have not done scientific tests. I have calibrated it once. It seems to be not lasting near as long as my OEM battery. But, I haven't actually measured what I've done.

But I'm thinking if it were really 1800, it would be subjectively longer lasting. I could be wrong.

I also have the 2 batts + charger ordered, mainly for the charger.
[Captivate Accessories] Smitty50:
Any updates?
[Captivate Accessories] phlunkie:
I guess the batteries died so they cannot post the review.
[Captivate Accessories] tjsooley:
Had mine for 2 days now and worth the money
[Captivate Accessories] Inzombie:
:O it a good battery? please post the link to ebay ;)
[Captivate Accessories] Spidious:
Just got mine in the mail. Put in the phone and charging up, came 67% charged up.

Will then run the battery learn process.

As far as weight

1500 Samsung 32.3 grams

1800 China 29.9 grams

So weight wise less.

Will see if it last longer.

Having been doing electric copter flying for a while. I know quite well that a heavier battery does NOT mean it will last longer !

Shoot just the fancy metal case the battery is shipped in with Chinese writing all over it is worth the $10 !
[Captivate Accessories] netnerd:
Which bag has more water, a 1LB bag of water or 1.5LB bag of water? Haha
[Captivate Accessories] sjavvaji:
it depends on how heavy the weight of the bag itself is... ;)
[Captivate Accessories] CuriousTech:
Leave it to the RC heli guys to have .1g scales. LOL

The concept is sound though, just like with our LiPo packs being the heaviest by mass. The denser the material, the more atoms there are in that space. More atoms = more electrons to charge and discharge. I always have to explain that to my mom because she buys those AAs from the dollar store that weigh as much as stryofoam. Yes, they're cheaper I know but replacing them 50 times as often isn't.

I ordered a $4.50 China charger off ebay. Will gut it and wire a deans ultra to it, plug it into the lipo charger and get the real capacity of these someday. If anyone else does it. The center pin is a thermister. Just ignore it. Charging at .5C or less should keep it cool.

Swapping the battery even with wiping battery stats, bump charging and timing it is too time consuming and varies too much.
[Captivate Accessories] Spidious:
Well so far

Charged to only 78% last night.

Watched two movies: OE Tron, and Forbidden Planet went down to 45%

Surfed the net, played games for a few more hours and it finally went dead. 1% and the phone shut off.

Charged overnight to 100% and then did the calibration shows 4.177v per cell

As far as lipo batteries for my helicopters. I have bought different brands, same capacity. And different weights. So far on them the cheaper brands have actually worked better.
[Captivate Accessories] slvr00gt:
Objective measurement needed

The only way to objectively measure the true capacity of this battery is to run it through contraption below and then run OEM battery to compare results:

http://www.instructables.com/id/Ard...-Tester-Li-IonNiMH/step4/FET-with-22Ohm-load/

http://www.instructables.com/id/Li-Ion-Battery-capacity-tester-Lithium-power-test/

BTW: I brought this 1800mah battery from ebay a month ago. It worked great so far, but I can't tell whether it is has higher capacity or not
[Captivate Accessories] Spidious:
Well the battery was down to 39% as of 2:48.

So it is about the same as it would normally be.

So as far as a extra battery (GREAT BUY)

As far as a longer lasting battery (Not in my case)

So for $10 it would be a great battery to have sitting in your charger for a fast change out.
[Captivate Accessories] 88EVGAFTW:
DO you guys think that swapping out batteries like this would throw off the batterystats.bin? or are all you guys resetting the battery stats everytime you put the spare battery in vice versa?
[Captivate Accessories] CuriousTech:
Yes. The estimates stored for the last battery will be used on a battery of different capacity so it messes up the % displayed, but not usually by much if there isn't much of a difference between the two. It still charges and shuts off based on voltage.
[Captivate Accessories] nappent:
I've been running this battery for a couple of days now and I'm on a 2.2.1 rom. This battery is barely lasting 12 hours. My usage is very minimal. 90% of the time the phone is just setting in my pocket or on my desk. On the OEM battery I've gotten the phone to last 36 hours. So for a $10 battery it is running like one... not very well. And for the record I did reset my battery stats. I'm going to run it for a couple of more days to see if anything improves but I seriously doubt it.

**Update 1/4/2011**

I just did a full cycle. Charged to 97% because for some reason it won't charge any higher. And trust me I try many times to get it to charge to 100%. After

28.5

hours phone went dead. I may have gotten another 30-45 mins but I got stuck on a 10min call. Phone basically starting shutting down while the call was ending. It was odd seeing the shut down screen while still hearing the other person saying "bye" on the other end.

Anyway, back to the battery...

I could not copy the usage stats since it went from 7% to 5% to shut down before I got off my call.

Anyway, a big improvement from the charge to 12 hours and dead my first time around. As with most batteries the life of the battery should be at its peak in the first couple of cycles. LI-Ion battery like this and the OEM should have a pretty standard cycle life up until the last 50-100 cycles when charges don't seem to hold. Unlike none Lithium-Ion battery which loose charging capacity from the first charge. This seems backwards since I went from 12 hours to 28 hours. I'll post up the life of the battery after this up coming cycle. Then I'll do battery stats reset and two comparison test with the OEM battery.

Also, for the record I'm running the Darky port 7.7 with Voodoo enabled.
[Captivate Accessories] MaxRabbit:
I agree with Spidious. I got a set of two batteries and a charger for $7. The two batteries work excellently as backups.
[Captivate Accessories] Autocratic:
CuriousTech,

Let me know how you do with the lipo charger setup im a regular 10th scale off roader so ive got the stuff.

Sent from my Perception 9.5 Captivate
[Captivate Accessories] CuriousTech:
Will do Autocratic. Got a couple 10th scales myself, and 18th, 64th... All lipo/brushless. I usually end up making an adapter for batteries in power tools, flashlights, cameras, etc. or using the gator clips just to have a universal smart charger/conditioner instead of relying on the "full" LED. Test capacities, cycle... or toss.
[Captivate Accessories] joeybear23:
I think we will not have any real information to work with unless we use some sort of standard to go by.

I have ordered this battery.

What I will do so that people can get some usable data is this:

1. Bump charge the stock battery

2. Run the battery down to 5% and capture the usage details (screen time, standby time, etc)

3. Run the battery down to shutdown and mark down how much time it took to go from 5% to off (since you can't see the usage after it shuts down)

4. Bump charge the 1800mAH battery

5. Run the battery down to 5% and capture the usage details (screen time, standby time, etc)

6. Run the battery down to shutdown and mark down how much time it took to go from 5% to off (since you can't see the usage after it shuts down)
[Captivate Accessories] Betray:
how bout some pics?
[Captivate Accessories] joeybear23:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10072013&postcount=3

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10072013&postcount=1
[Captivate Accessories] flashy_mcflash:
Sorry for the n00bery but can someone post the link to the seller of the battery? And does it come with a charger?

I see lots of 1500mah batteries on ebay but for some reason I can't find this one. Thanks!
[Captivate Accessories] ProBoner:
As an alternative to this battery, you can find an oem china battery on ebay for $10 too. The seller claims it is original but I there are a few indications that it isn't.

Regardless, it works very well and is comparable to stock... I would probably bet that it is the SAME battery as this 1800mah model and therefore is probably the equivalent of a 1400-1500mah (if oem).

Another indicator that 1800mah is BS is the claim of 4.2v right on the battery :D Chinese like to inflate everything by 25%:rolleyes:
[Captivate Accessories] Dani897:
?????:confused: my stock battery reads 4180mv when fully charged so how is that a 25% inflation?

but i agree, i did order a battery to test it, not here yet. but the same manufacturer (i didnt look at the seller but i think its the same) has a battery up there labled as 1600 on the battery in photos but advertised as 1800. so im pretty sure they are just throwing numbers around and have no understanding of what they mean, or are just liers.
[Captivate Accessories] flashy_mcflash:
What sellers did you guys use?
[Captivate Accessories] joeybear23:
Do a search for "samsung i9000 1800"
[Captivate Accessories] flashy_mcflash:
Ah, that was my mistake. I was just searching for Samsung Captivate 1800. Again, straight n00bery :)
[Captivate Accessories] PersonOfKnownOrigin:
Got this today. I see no difference in battery life. But, hey, it was short money and now I have a spare battery.
[Captivate Accessories] slvr00gt:
Fully charged Li-Ion cell is 4.2V. When your phone is fully discharged and reads 0%, the battery still has some charge and 2.7V between the posts. If li-ion battery is discharched to 0V it is dead and unrecoverable. OEMs have formula to average out voltage ( not direct average ) to produce 3.7 that you usually see on the cover.

After owning this 1800 battery for a month, and reading this forum and others I got hooked by the idea to test out the battery myself. I want to do it in controlled discharge environment. I want to be able to measure capacity of the battery through controlled discharge, compare it to manufacturer claim and compare it against other batteries. I could not find any reasonably priced equipment to do the job, but I found this DIY:

http://www.instructables.com/id/Arduino-True-Battery-Capacity-Tester-Li-IonNiMH/

Yesterday, I finished building the actual discharge circuit with computer controlled input and test leads. Microcontroller board suppose to be in the mail tonight. If things go smoothly I should be posting some results in a few days :D
[Captivate Accessories] flashy_mcflash:
How reliable are the other sellers on ebay that are selling 2 (standard charge) batteries along with a wall charger for $10? If these batteries provide no measurable difference in charge, I'd rather just get one of those, provided they're not sketchy.
[Captivate Accessories] Betray:
should we be worried about damage to the phone with these extra capacity battery's? does it run hotter?
[Captivate Accessories] Dani897:
well no. we dont know if these actually have extra capacity for one, and the voltage is stock specs, and if it wasnt the charger wouldn't charge them above stock anyhow. current through the phone is only as high as the load the phone puts on it, so that just leaves current when charging which could potentially be higher but again would be limited by the charger. if you use a stock charger you should be good. if you have a 2+ amp charger id watch the temp.

generally i have noticed that the batteries stock included put out a lot of heat while charging at first but after some days or weeks they seem to charge faster and dont get so hot.
[Captivate Accessories] Autocratic:
Dano you bring up a good point.

I wonder if the phone knows that the battery is higher capacity; if the battery is actually bigger.

There used to be a widget thag would list battery info and it included mah values. Anyone have it?

Also, does anyone know if the phone or charger is setup for the stock 1500mah battery and will only charge until it thinks its full, or does the power supply for the phone not work like that?

I'd really like to see these batteries on a peak detection lipo charger and get some real results out of these.

Is there anyway to charge the batteries outside of the phone?

Sent from my Perception 9.5 Captivate
[Captivate Accessories] Miami_Son:
Got mine yesterday and am not impressed. I immediately put it in the phone and charged it up. It came about 65% charged and only took about 35 minutes to reach 100%. Unplugged it last night and about 2 hours later it was already down to 75% with very little use, but with GPS and Wifi on. Woke up this morning and it was only down to 68%, which I took as a good sign. Used it all day and by 3pm it was down to 15% so I put it back on the charger. Once it reached 100% again I disconnected the charger, turned off the phone and reconnected the charger. That was 2 and a half hours ago and it appears to be stuck at about 90% charge (even though it read 100% when the phone was on). Shouldn't have taken more than 15 minutes to show 100%. I'm going to leave it charging with the phone off for a little while longer, but this doesn't speak well of this battery even if it does finally reach 100%.

On the positive side, it doesn't appear to run any warmer than stock.
[Captivate Accessories] CuriousTech:
Exactly. 2.7 is minimum, 3.7 nominal, 4.2 max. Under 2.7ish is below 0 capacity and damages the cell, and at least with LiPo it can puff and become a fire hazard. Similar with charging over 4.2 or over the max charge rate.

I removed the 1850, put the OEM back in, used it, started charging, installed JuicePlotter, let it charge full, discharged for 12 hours, it shut down, plugged it in and was at 30% instantly. I think that's a recalibration. I'm thinking it had a little under 30% left when it shut off. Pretty cool app. The color is batt temp. I need to try JuiceDefender now. :)
[Captivate Accessories] nappent:
Ok I did my 3rd charge to dead run. Went down to 3% this time but with good results.

Here is my setup...

JL3 Modem

Darky 7.7 port (2.2.1) with Voodoo enabled

Brightness set to 0% with Brightness level App

Display timeout: 30 seconds

Vibrate on for all notifications

System Animations: None

Using LauncherPro

LauncherPro Facebook app checking every 3 hours

Gmail is running 100% of the time.

WeatherBug App: Updating every 4 hours

That's all of that I can think of that would make a difference with the battery.

Results

So this is up from 12hours for my first test and 28.5 hours from the second test.

In summary, this battery seems to be working pretty darn good. I would recommend it!

Lastly I be doing a couple of OEM test runs to compare the final results.
[Captivate Accessories] Jjparknyc:
we need to see the display time to get a better gauge.
[Captivate Accessories] nappent:
What are you needing hours and mins? 36% of 46 hour is around 15.4 hours. Simple math... not to be a jerk or anything

I thought this battery was junk too but it really has improved the more I've used my phone. I think it takes the phone a while to adjust to a larger battery. The battery stats reset is not a perfect fix.
[Captivate Accessories] Miami_Son:
You may be right. Left it off and plugged in overnight and it did reach 100% by morning. Unplugged and went about my business today. Some phone calls, mapping, a web search and at 96% right now. Not bad. Gonna let it go down to 10% before recharging again.
[Captivate Accessories] sjavvaji:
can someone give me an approximate battery life after breaking it in on the Speedmod Kernel? nappent got 46 hours w/ the regular reoriented kernel and i think it can go to the 60ish hour range...if so, I am definitely gonna buy one of these...lastly...has and one tried the 1900mah variety?
[Captivate Accessories] diablo009:
All look good here. But the next time on, it might be a good idea to show the "call time" and "display on" time to give a more accurate picture.
[Captivate Accessories] sjavvaji:
regardless...if i had that all on...i would get like 24ish hours on oem w/ stock kernel, 36 hours with speedmod kernel...so i would say 46 hours is great by any stretch of the imagination
[Captivate Accessories] rymn:
I just bought one, hopefully more statistics will help.
[Captivate Accessories] Jjparknyc:
I doubt the display was on for 15.4hrs. I meant the total display time. If you hit the display stat, it shows the total time.
[Captivate Accessories] BL4zD:
I guess this didn't occur to you, but if you're using the batteries to keep something in flight then obviously heavier batteries are going to negatively affect the run-times!

There is no magical substance in a battery...the density of the battery is the only variable (barring different technologies) that is going to affect length of (dis)charge.
[Captivate Accessories] CuriousTech:
Well, here are my placebo free results :rolleyes:

Andida 1850 = 1460

Mugen 1600 = 1698

Samsung 1500 = 1725

I'm not all that surprised. The Japan made ones are above rated capacity as should be, and the Chinese one's "1850" is more like what they call Designers on DX. LOL I wouldn't expect anything more from the eBay one.

As it turns out I wasted money on the Mugen as well, being it's the most expensive.
[Captivate Accessories] Enhanced:
On the eBay listening for the battery, the information provided by the seller said the following:

I guess it's true.

I'm monitoring this thread closely! Still waiting for more information but so far it sounds really encouraging.

By the way, which one was purchased?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1800-mah-Busine...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb377f40a#ht_2888wt_1139

http://cgi.ebay.com/1800mAh-Samsung...ccessories&hash=item230c6fa877#ht_3159wt_1139

From the picture in the beginning of the thread, it seems like the former. Just wanted to make sure.
[Captivate Accessories] CuriousTech:
They're both the same. Look a little closer at the picture where 1600mAh is printed on the battery. :)
[Captivate Accessories] sjavvaji:
i would recommend the one where 1800mah is printed on the battery
[Captivate Accessories] alphadog00:
Out of curiosity, how did you calculate these numbers?
[Captivate Accessories] sjavvaji:
wth is this andida 1850mah battery?...i see your trying to make a point but please refer to the 1800mah battery referred to in this thread

Sent from my 1.4ghz Cappy on Darky's JPY