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[G Tablet General] Neoprimal:
Yes I saw your post elsewhere. And I'm now seeing that it's happened to others at full battery values so that strikes down my theory completely.

We're left with your theory that it's 'stuck' in a powersave profile/mode and that it happens no matter what the battery level, as long as the device sleeps. Which is so odd since it never happened to mine while I was watching it.

Hopefully, this is the case :)

I didn't root so I have no terminal to test the 'snap back' with that instruction you posted, so I'm eagerly awaiting someone else's result.

My battery is charged back up to 87% and my tablet is still under the weather so it's def. stuck at this point. I'm sure it'll fly if I reboot.

As soon as we get excited about a fix (which DOES fix things), something else comes up. Such is the world of open source I guess?
[G Tablet General] JobobJet:
I have a stock 3389 with the slow down problem reported here. Power cycle clears the problem, extended sleep time seems to start the problem.

Looks like my stock news app is consuming a full core (aka 1/2 the CPU). Killing the news app seems to fix my slow down.

YMMV.

Edit: Also, wifi did not wake up.

Edit2: Quadrant report "Cores: 1" on my stock box.
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
Hi,

Can I ask a question?

The impression I have is that:

- the kernel is same for all Gtab updates thus far, and

- the lag problem only started, or at least was noted with 3389

Is that correct?

The reason I'm asking is that if the kernel hasn't changed, then it seems like something outside of the kernel is causing, or at least initiating the slowdown?

Just thinking out loud...

Jim

P.S. What about other Roms? Are they using the same kernel, and are any of them having the lag?
[G Tablet General] rob_z11:
Nothing seems to help wakeup slowdown. I have tried installing fix from nvida which posted on post#2, autostart, battery level is like 60%, or clockwidget to change the cpu to get upto 1000000.

I think shutting down wireless before getting to sleep seems to work.

Now we have kernel source, we should be able to fix this problem and we can make this tablet killer again. I sure don't want to reload it everytime I want to use it.
[G Tablet General] TeamSpeed:
Interestingly I think you are on the right path. The last two long sleeps have yielded no lag for me when I came back, and both times I turned on airplane mode, then sleep.
[G Tablet General] necromonger89:
Not to bash Roebeet as I appreciate your/his work tremendously, but after switching to Vegan I have noticed a slight improvement in speed. I have no idea what you guys are talking about with the calendar sync. I just flashed Vegan on another tablet and will probably flash it on a 3rd later on today. On mines and my cousins tablets there were no degradations in speed what so ever. I left mine on standby all night yesterday, woke up and it was at 83% battery; ran fine. I have over 50 apps installed on my tablet and many that autostart and it woke up perfectly. The scanning SD card seems to slow it down a bit, but that's all I have noticed.

PS. I have a couple of reminders on my calendar app synced from my G1. It didn't decrease the speed at all.

IDK if you guys are exaggerating the speed degradation or not. I do not notice significant changes other than the TnT Lite to Vegan switch, which was minute. I still love the TnT build better as I grew accustomed to that build more and it feels a little awkward navigating the settings menu on Vegan.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Whatever the case, TnT 3.1 was a slow down bummer for me. Tried reboots, cache cleans, app tests, sleep mode, etc- same result. Zero slow down events rolling back to 3.0.

TnT 3.0 IMO, is Dynomiiiiite! :)

It could go nitro with:

1. Blue tooth improvements

2. Keyboard options

3. Drivers for Nvidia that fix Gameloft games (as example)

4. Accelerometer correction

90 degree obstacle here though is the horrific Tap UI layer.

Tap nTap UI = Corporate sabotage
[G Tablet General] Neoprimal:
There's definite speed issues on 3389 (stock) and what seems to be, any ROMs based on the kernel it's using. And it's not an exaggeration, believe me....if you see it, you'll def. know. Browsing becomes slow, touches don't register, the animations are choppy and if you have any doubt, just try watching a video you've watched fine before...completely staggered and stuttery.

Just the fact that you get less than 1/4 of the Quadrant score should tell you that this is a real problem even if you don't believe in synthetic benchmarks.

I purchased Quadrant Advanced to see the performance hit coming out of sleep, however unlike those who have the issue coming out of sleep at any point in time, I still only have the problem coming out of sleep when the battery is low it seems. I am currently trying a longer sleep. But I've let it sit for 30-45m and it woke up fine.

Will post back with the Quadrant results if I'm able to replicate the slowdown. If not, I'll just power drain the battery by leaving a 1080p movie running for a while and post later on.

BTW: Happy Universal Holidays! (to those who don't believe in Xmas)

and a pre-Merrrrry Christmas!!! (to those who do!).
[G Tablet General] rushless:
If the update that VS is pushing to "stockers" is doing this- more shovels of dirt back out of the hole they made. Second time using this analogy, but fits.
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
Hi,

Sorry for being persistent, but I have to ask the above again :(...

If all kernels were same, for stock TNT, at least, why would the apparent 3389 lag be kernel related?

Again, apologies, but that just doesn't make sense.

Jim
[G Tablet General] rothnic:
This is definitely not related to the recent update. I think it is becoming more of an issue because there is less and less bug-wise to look into as many get fixed.

I have experienced the problem on every single TnT build, Cyanogenmod, Zpad, and Vegan.
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
Ahh... OK. I had the impression that it's 1st seen in 3389.
[G Tablet General] popezaphod:
Nope, getting the slow down after long sleep.

-=Sent from my VS GTablet (VEGAn b4) using Tapatalk=-
[G Tablet General] rob_z11:
I think airoplane mode seems to work the best so far before putting it to sleep.
[G Tablet General] necromonger89:
I did not say I did not believe you. I said it might be an exaggeration. I have not tried TnT Lite 3.0 or the 3.0.1. I went from TnT Lite 2.4 to Vegan beta4. I do not like to jump on the bandwaggon right away until I confirm that it is safe enough to jump. I just did some test and scored some random scores on Quadrant. From an extended period of sleep my tablet scored 600+, 591, 2356, and 2330. The spike happened after I rebooted with only a couple of autostart apps like email, im, and the live wallpaper running at the time of test.

Sorry if I offended you in any manner. I love this community and believe we g tab owners should stick together.
[G Tablet General] Neoprimal:
No way! I think you took my response in a different way than I meant it. Totally conversational, no offense taken etc. I just wanted to construe the message that this isn't something where we're looking at low scores and determining that there's a slowdown. So yeah, my tone on these forums will always be balanced...I don't take offense to things easily and likewise I don't go hostile at the drop of a bat or anything like that so apology unnecessary :)
[G Tablet General] Neoprimal:
Hmmm. This begs the question....how many cores is Froyo utilizing/seeing? As far as I know I thought it was single core only - am I incorrect? Heck, if it was seeing/using more than a single core we should literally see 0 lag as it is, no? I mean, 1 would be taking care of the background apps and another, everything else.

I know speed won't double or triple, but it would take a lot more than a few apps to bog down the speed of the device and so far, if you use a 'heavy' live wallpaper, even that can affect your performance.

It's like using XP pre SP1 (which sees 1 or 2 cores, I forget) on your quad-core system. It's like night and day - sure it works, and its 'fast' because of the proc. speed, but once you get SP3 (which sees them all) on there things not only open in seconds but you can run as many programs as you need to until actual RAM is stressed (that's A LOT)...or, like comparing a 'faster' dual core cpu to a quad core chip. Sure the dual core will do things faster/quicker but the quad core is going to be able to accomplish way more in terms of running different programs and multitasking vs. the dual core. And to me, Android is more about running all those background processes as transparently as possible than being fast. 1Ghz Android devices run at pretty awesome speeds anyway, most of the times it's the background stuff that ever causes an issue (well, or bugs, lol).

I'm hoping that it's not dual core friendly - that way I can expect great things with Honeycomb :).
[G Tablet General] JobobJet:
Quadrant report "Cores: 1" on my stock box.
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
Seeing the same on stock 3053. Does that mean kernel built with support for only 1 core :(?

Also, all the "freq" values are "?".

Jim
[G Tablet General] Neoprimal:
Don't think we should pay too much attention to the system info part of Quadrant as it's possible it hasn't been updated for Tegra 2 quite yet. So, that it says 1 core may not mean much. Hopefully a dev. knows the answer though. I'm ALMOST sure it supports only 1, while Honeycomb should supper multi-core architecture.
[G Tablet General] vsc:
Go into "/sys/devices/system/cpu" and cat "possible". You will see "0-1" which indicates two cores are available to the kernel.

Next cat "online" and you will see either "0" or "0-1". I have found that in general one core is online, where two cores are used when playing video. Note that playing an mp3 only has core zero enabled.

You can go into "/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1" and do something like,

echo "1" > online

and this will force the second core online. But I don't know what condition(s) the kernel uses to disable the second core. Thus it is unclear if both cores will stay running.

I have no idea if this has anything to do with the slowdown issue...

My gut tells me that problems go all the way back to Nvidia. I'm afraid that when people start hacking the kernel they will pull in the latest kernel patches and introduce other behaviors, thus making it harder to debug (or at least be distracting) this one problem.
[G Tablet General] bloodlust22:
I too am having the same problem with TnT Lite 3.1. When ever my tablet goes to sleep mode and comes out of it, It's almost unusable now. Browser, Apps, Everything run at a snails pace. Will there be a fix to this? It's really bad and I'm thinking about going back to 2.4 that worked great for me.
[G Tablet General] Fuzzy John:
I can also confirm that turning WiFi off before sleep seems to eliminate or at least reduce the lag when the tablet comes out of sleep.

I just changed my WiFi Sleep Policy from "Never" to "When screen turns off". I'll see later how this turns out.
[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
Mine is set this way "When screen turns off" and I have the wake up lag. I'm running the 3389 update with the tegra performance pack and gapps.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Well, I apologize for assuming that the issue just impacted 3.1, since 3.0 is doing it now too. Device lags down to molasses and then 570 Q scores. Does not matter if coming out of sleep or not. Appears (almost) random in nature. 2.4 may be the best option for no slowdowns. Wish I kept my CW backup of it...

I will roll back none the less if these slow down events persist.

Perhaps the kernel release will result in some more stable- non OEM efforts.
[G Tablet General] TeamSpeed:
I actually turn off wifi then tell it to sleep. I haven't had the lag in 4 different multihour sleeps now.
[G Tablet General] anlog:
This has nothing to do with apps, wifi settings, or anything like that. It is an issue with the cpu governor.

We are working on a fix over here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=886550

I may have found a workaround. So far with my script I've come out of sleep over 20 times over the last 12 hours and my CPU is still clocked at 1ghz.

I need more testers. Instructions are posted in the other thread...
[G Tablet General] TeamSpeed:
Not sure what to say, but turning off wireless then going to sleep appears to have caused my lag issues from yesterday to go away. I am going to keep doing this until the actual root cause is found, what I see in the other thread is what we do at work as bandaids until we get to the bottom of the issues. I will watch the progress though.
[G Tablet General] rob_z11:
I am going to check out the thread. This is a beautiful machine, and hate to give it up.
[G Tablet General] anlog:
To clarify, I have had the issue appear on multiple ROMS, both with wireless enabled, disabled, and every combination of wifi sleep mode available. The longest I went without a slowdown (without any fixes) was about 24 hours on vegan b3. Without any fixes it will eventually happen.

The newer build of kernel recently released by Viewsonic seems to have the problem after a single sleep. Later today if I get some time I'm going to flash TnT Lite 3.1 and test the fix.
[G Tablet General] anlog:
Now that we have kernel source I'm sure we'll have a real fix very soon. Don't give up just yet.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jzp.unltd:
I got a new computer.

I got a new phone then i received the latest update.

I went to the unrevoked site.

downloaded the usb drivers and installed.

DOwnloaded the reflash tool.

Followed the instructions in the tool.

Phone restarts but never gets rooted. (after multiple attempts)

Did i miss something? I didn't find anything that says that unrevoked was not working on the latest evo update.

Please advice.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david279:
Well it doesn't work on latest update. They still working on it. Also never accept a OTA update.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leenypost:
You didnt find anything? you must not have tried the search function. Type in the search box "unrevoked new ota" and you will find lots of things that say it doesn't work.

Look for a thread created by zikronix in this... The dev section... Not the q&a section where you should have posted this.

In zikronix thread you will find all you need to know if you want to root the phone you have now.

Merry Xmas.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] sHaHiN786:
Not a fan of mobile gaming, but purchased this today as it looks awesome for a phone, though after downloading, damn thing downloads again, taking ages, some reported it taking half an hour, and it causes error at 13% on my phone constantly, so I opened this thread to see if anybody can help on troubleshooting, so far, I've deleted the app in the SD card, un-installed and have started it again. :mad:

Got it to work, was low on memory on SD card. :D
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Burning_aces:
is the game decent or? whats it about?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] funkatiko:
Im downloading the files atm...but it looks awesome! I cant wait to start playing! Check this video to have an idea of it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeyQ-PC_cwc
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Dragonahcas:
Tried it for a bit and runs perfectly on the desire hd. Problem is there isn't a demo so its all or nothing. Its a 7mb download but then need another couple of hundred after you download it. Which will take a while over 3g killing any chances of a refund!
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] funkatiko:
Which rom are u using?? Im using CM6 RC2 and its not really smooth....i believe Sense has better 3D performance.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] sHaHiN786:
I'm using Sense, ROM: Revolution HD, it's working perfectly, I'm enjoying this game, very addictive, onlines pretty good, but disconnects at time, can get annoying, nevertheless, very good game. It's a strategy/RPG, you will not be unhappy, especially at that price. ;)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] foxcheng:
Can anyone post his Dundef sd folder on multiupload, because i still stuck at 41% after 50 tries :(

thanks in advance and merry christmas!
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] sHaHiN786:
Make sure you have plenty of space on your memory card, for some odd reason it gives error, just keep relaunching it and it continues from where it stops. ;)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Burning_aces:
wow looks pretty awesome actually. Might have to buy that
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] foxcheng:
i have 1.77Gb now in sd card, now already over 100 tries to download Leaderboards_LOC_INT.xxx :(

can you please upload htc version's dundef folder to multiupload.com, i tried galaxy x's sd content, the pixel messed up on the menu and then jump out to main screen..
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilter00:
Just recently my phone did an automatic update (i agreed hoping it was 2.2) and my options for USB Connections went from like 5 down to three.

If i recall, i used to be able to select

Kies

Mass Storage

Media

PC

Tethering

Or something of thoes sorts

And now im stuck with only

Kies

Media

Mass Storage

Anyone have any idea why this happend, and how i can get back to having the options of being able to tether/pc connect?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcord11758:
Flash a custom 2.2 rom
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xiha13:
assert failed: apply_patch_check("/system/app/Maps.apk".

I del the old google map and install the brut one.

What can I do?Thanks.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TabulaGaga:
Has anybody made this work already?

I want to use NOOKcolor as a writing device as well as a reading device. Among other things, that means attaching a keyboard.

The NOOKcolor doesn't have an internal Bluetooth radio, so it looks like the mini-usb port is the last resort. I see two options (correct me if I'm wrong here):

Attach a Bluetooth adapter to the mini-usb port via adapter, get the bluetooth keyboard drivers to work

Attach a regular usb keyboard to the mini-usb port via adapter, get the regular keyboard drivers to work.

Pokey9000 says it looks like NOOKcolor has hardware components that support USB On-The-Go protocol (enabling a slave device like NOOKcolor to act a host device for a peripheral like a keyboard):

Has anybody had any luck verifying NOOKcolor's hardware setup supports USB On-The-Go mode? Any success getting a keyboard hooked up and working?
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bimboy:
I'm still holding out for the Ti OMAP 3621 chipset to have the BT enabled in the future, though I'll be using it for a BT GPS dongle and wireless headset. Devs will be working on it soon, after a tear down is done on a development unit.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TabulaGaga:
I don't have URL posting status yet, but here is a text list of what I've been able to find:

GigaOm-dot-com posted a good compilation article on attaching a keyboard to your Android phone, including links to hacking your own dongle. Search:

"How To Add a USB Keyboard to an Android Phone"

langtoninfo-dot-com has a usb to mini-usb dongle. I haven't verified it'll work. Search:

"OTG Cable Adapter Mini USB A-plug - USB A-Socket".
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pinesal:
I would like to somehow connect a gamepad to the nookcolor.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TabulaGaga:
cyanogenmod 6 (cm6) ?

Newbie question: I've seen a post elsewhere hoping that "cm6" will make bluetooth devices possible.

Are we talking cyanogen-mod 6, which launched Dec 6?

What help does this provide Nook Color?

TG
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wvcachi:
Cyanogen develops highly-praised custom ROMs on a variety of android devices. There's a donation thread, hoping to convince their team to develop for the NookColor. There's hope that someone can unlock bluetooth capabilities on the NookColor, and when people need something like that done, they often think of a cyanogen ROM as being the answer.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] innosia:
right now in cm 7 bluetooth is working, can i pair a bluetooth keyboard to nook?

isn't usually keyboard is wifi not blue tooth or the keyboard has its own blue tooth dongle, how to attach the dongle to nook, or will it work without the dongle?

anyone can advice?
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alexsandra:
I saw someone tried to use APPLE bluetooth keyboard and it works.......
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bundee1:
some devices do pair and work with bugs and limited range (1ft?)
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Taosaur:
W?

T?

F?

How do you end up replying to this six-month-old thread when there are DOZENS of threads on this topic, including a sticky? Please go browse the first page of the appropriate forum and you will find no fewer than three current threads on this topic: http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=863
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anonimus.guy:
Gee, I guess same way you do ;) You crack me up. I'll bet you're one of those people who press "reply to all" to tell everyone not to press "reply to all"
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] koopakid08:
You have got to be kidding me....
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikespug:
The irony...
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Taosaur:
The irony is, I'm in kind of a guilty place right now, so the necro-sequitur did make me feel a little bad about being dickish on the internet. Even attacking with pure stupid, sometimes you roll a 20.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sHaHiN786:
Would it be possible to get the warranty back on the phone by un-rooting it? :D

May be a stupid question, but can you do it, just like the iPhone's do?

I was asking the following questions above before and stumbled across this interesting thread, it states this under the warranty section on Nexus one:

7. THIS LIMITED WARRANTY SHALL NOT APPLY IF:

a) the Product serial number, the accessory date code, the IMEI number, the water indicator, or the warranty seal has been removed, erased, defaced, altered or is illegible; or

b) the defect was caused by deterioration of the Product due to normal wear and tear; or

c) the defect was caused by use other than in accordance with the user manual, rough handling, exposure to moisture, dampness or extreme thermal or environmental conditions or a rapid change in

such conditions, corrosion, oxidation, unauthorized modifications or connections, unauthorized opening or repair, repair by use of unauthorized spare parts, accidents, forces of nature, or other actions beyond the reasonable control of HTC (including but not limited to deficiencies in consumable parts) unless the defect was caused directly by defects in materials or workmanship; or

d) the defect was caused by the fact that the battery has been short-circuited or by the fact that the seals of the battery enclosure or the cells are broken or show evidence of tampering or by the fact that the battery has been used in equipment other than those for which it has been specified; or

e) the defect was caused by a defective function of the cellular network or other system; or

f) the Product software needs to be upgraded due to changes in cellular network parameters; or

g) the defect was caused by the fact that the Product was used with or connected to an accessory not approved or provided by HTC or used in other than its intended use and where it can be shown by HTC that such defect is not the fault of the Product itself; or

h) the bootloader is unlocked by the Customer (allowing third party OS installation) using the fastboot program.

On the Desire and Desire HD (I just looked up on the warranty) Notice that section h) does not exist, therefore we are still under warranty, if that's right, for further details, check your warranty, as this may apply differently to Desire HD's branded. For more info check this link (get ready for a massive debate): http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=668125&page=5

I hope that someone can come to a conclusion. :D