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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] randomblame:
testing 1/30/11 now seems to be working well enough. First boot had cpu slowdown until I called voicemail now it's gone. Haptic feedback is enabled in settings but not working for some strange reason - vibrator works for phone calls however.

edit-

screen wakes up really quick now - just as fast as with 1253-stable maybe faster. I'll let it charge for a few minutes and see if that changes once it's been off a while.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jchutch2:
I'm so torn between this one with extended battery life and the one with camera working and stability...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] randomblame:
this is pretty stable I've been trying to piss it off but it's not giving me trouble. Just gotta wait till both branches are stable and the code can all be committed so we can have the best of both worlds
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Jandyman:
Testing 1/30/11, iv had about 1/3 rewakenings not work properly so far. Ie) backlight on, screen off. After some button jabbing an about 4seconds it usually turns on.

-using juicedefender, will disable re-test a couple times and edit.

So far the kernal after 1/26, (the 1st kernal with the caps/fn mixup fixed) seems to be the only one working 100%.

Edit: 1st wake:ok

2nd wake: ok

3rd wake: backlight on/screen off-touch to ake screen

4th wake: *power on* -no response *power on*- no responce, *couple more tries*-backlight on *touch screen/swipe* 1blip of haptic feedback* eventually after about 30seconds in all screen came on.

Test2-

1st:ok

2nd:ok

3rd: identical probly as wake4 above.

In each test I left it locked for 3 seconds before awakening, and kept it awake for about 3 seconds between lockings.

EDIT: Installed fresh build, with the latest kernals and it seems to have solved my waking issues. Atm anyway. Tanks for the swift kernal updates :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] randomblame:
that's weird jandyman I've only had a few failed screen wakeups so far and just pressing the power button twice makes it instantly wake up.

seems to be 1 out of 15 times I get backlight on with no panel

it also only seems to happen when you turn it on and off really fast in succession.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] JBS2:
Just tested the 1/30 kernel on my rhod100. Panel wake-up works a little bit better, so we are getting closer on this device. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] slapshot30:
Oh just another comment on the 1/29

wifi on 1st boot = good

wifi on 2nd boot = error

wifi on 3rd boot = good

(not sure why)

trying 1/30 now

EDIT: 1/30 kernal I am having perfect screen wakeup. Everything I need is here! Battery, backlight, wifi (I don't even use the camera so I don't care about that). I know this wasn't ever meant to be a winmo replacement but at this point it pretty much is. I'm planning on using this for long periods of time. Much thanks to arrrghhh and wistilt2 and everyone else involved in this. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Jandyman:
also der is another problem which has been in the last couple of kernals aswell, I tink it may be an undesired result of the keyboard backlight fixes?

I txt a lot and iv noticed occasionaly when txtn it gets stuck on a letter and does a rake of dem without it being able to be stoped den after about 50 it stops itself. Ie) (hi who are you witttttttttttt- on an) also sometimes when txtn the words suddenly stop appearing as you type and den the backlight on keyboard goes off. (Just happend now actually). And you havta wait to continue.

These are very small problems which arnt particularlt frequent so don't spend too much time working on them if a solution isn't obvious ^-^ just we're all testers so I taught it'd be best that you are aware.

Curious if anyone else is experiencing this aswell?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] slapshot30:
I did but the last time was on the 1/28. I know exactly what you're talking about though. When texting it would get all delayed and be about 10 letters back from what I was typing and sometimes repeat. Haven't had the issue since though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] randomblame:
I've also noticed the multiple button read problem. it's particularly annoying when using the keyboard for games. I just had 1/30 lock up on me with wifi on in the browser on a heavy flash page. It required pulling the battery and on reboot the sd card was corrupt - probably not the kernels fault but annoying. I can't wait for a good nand implementation.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
Yup, I've seen this as well. It seems to happen when the CPU is overloaded, happens a lot when the system server CPU hogging issue is occurring. However, I've also seen it happen on recent WisTilt2 builds (thought not yet on the 1/30 one) where the system is just choked up even when it's not caused by the initial system server CPU issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] trusa1:
Wooowww, I was complained about wake up speed but new kernel 1/30 wakes up my device in 2 sec. :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] randomblame:
wow that took like an hour - just got back up and running now I get to set it all back up again. The good news is I caught a few issues in my startup.txt that might have been causing me issues.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Jandyman:
Iv charged my battery and did a complete reinstall of my build using the latest 1/30/11 kernal. The wake problem I mentioned earlier seems to be greatly reduced, now its only about 1/6 wakes which is slow. But still not as severe as mentioned above.

Just also want to say that I think the progress made in the past month has been imho some of the fastest and best improvements to kernals so far. Tanks to arrggh, wistilt and all the other kernal devs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] husam666:
Yup, I'm no longer afraid to put my phone to sleep :D

Also battery life has increased dramatically even on wifi

Thx for your work guys :)

This thread is sleeping with the fishes!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jopherr:
does this kernal break camera/have camera working? im considering trying this kernal, but my current kernal has camera working
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] husam666:
No, sadly it doesn't support camera.

But it's great, you have to try it :)

This thread is sleeping with the fishes!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Just like this code isn't committed, neither is the camera code... so no, they're separate kernels.

Why is this thread sleeping with the fishes?!?! Glad to hear you like the new kernel lol.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] vnes1984:
lol, don't even know what that means...

Anyway, I get about 3 out of 5 with the 1/30 kernal. Nice work!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Eodun:
Any chance that the battery improvements work for other devices when the changes get committed? They seem impressive... good work!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] randomblame:
no the battery improvements are just a result of rhod's panel shutting off properly now so no other devices would benefit.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
This is correct, benefits are RHOD only for the time being. Hopefully when it's committed it can then be expanded to other devices - I have faith! ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] husam666:
lol, its my xda app signature :D, for the off topic guys...

you should go there and chill out for a while :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Hey guys, WisTilt2 just passed on another kernel to me - this one I get 100% wakes within 2 secs, most less. Flawless for me.

So this is what I need you to focus on - panel wake from full sleep (green LED on for a few secs basically) and battery life. Enjoy!

Edit - Sorry guys, had to pull it. I have an updated zImage, but not a full pack with the modules. I'll get it fixed soon... Fixed!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] randomblame:
testing...

seems better but there is a strange issue with the backlight coming on and then turning right off again on resume sometimes
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] gnnash:
Nearly perfect on my RHOD400.

First wake had me worried: I experienced similar issue to randomblame. The backlight would come up, wait about three seconds, then flash the panel for a half second or so, cut the panel, then cut backlight and back to sleep.

Since then though, have tried at least 10 times with no issues. Panel comes up just as fast as before collapse!

Deep sleep (green LED) now occurs faster than ever before as well, not sure if that is related or not.

Great work to WisTilt2, and thanks to arrrghhh for helping getting these kernels out to be tested!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Yea we were discussing this with WisTilt2 - to those that do experience this, let the phone sleep for a few seconds (5, 10 at most) and see if it's better...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ksper6986:
Working like a charm thanks and keep up the great work
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ksper6986:
Bythe way my sig is not updated so yes I do have the new kernal
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] gabmurillo:
I am using RHOD210 and so far the new kernel works pretty darn good. Some times my phone doesn't wake completely; the panel back light turns on but the screen doesn't draw. When I tap the screen, the screen will draw the lock screen and then all seems to work well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] aichemist:
This kernal doesn't include 3d or camera right? I'm still trying out the different kernals at the moment. I"m guessing this one is testing strictly on panel and battery life?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
3d... is not in any "kernel". That improvement is in FRX04, which I recommend running for testing.

Camera is a different kernel which has uncommitted code, much like this kernel did for keyboard backlight - but that made it into mainline pretty quickly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] randomblame:
It's going to sleep much faster about 5 seconds from power button to green light now consistently
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] muziling:
rhod400 test 30/1/2011 kernel

sometimes screen can not wake up by power butoon, need to press power & menu button
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tomdeaap:
Been trying this kernel since this morning.

- Fast as lightning; very responsive!

- Goes to deep sleep (green light) very quickly (2-3 sec) after a reboot

- After opening several apps, does not go to deep sleep, only orange LED keeps showing

Tried with both pm.sleep_mode = 0 and 1. Still not sure if and why this might matters, but tried both nonetheless.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
I'd stick with =1 for the sleep_mode... But apps will prevent the phone from sleeping, no way around that - if they're asking for processor cycles and need to update something, then of course the phone won't sleep lol...

Glad to hear the rest is workin well for you.

So... is there anything consistent you can do to recreate the failed wake issue? I've tried everything, and honestly it's woken up every single time. I haven't had a single failed wake, and I can't figure out how to create a failed wake. WisTilt2 thinks it's related to the new framebuffer...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rpierce99:
Panel wake is perfect for me so far, 4 for 4, so not a large sample size, but I've never had 4 in a row with this test kernel.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] muziling:
This happen for me many times ,my winmo radio version is Sprint_2.32WF

occure for me:

1. answer phone, when need to hang up, may not be wake up by power button

2. charge with DC/AC, screen not turn off, and system goto die, i need to remove battery

3. happend once, when charge with computer, wake up and screen immediately auto light off, try to wake up several times, finally reboot to bootanimation.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Hrm... so your panel wake issues seem to be centered around phone calls, and charging. I haven't really charged my phone much with this kernel, as WisTilt2 was asking about what kind of battery drain I was experiencing while the phone is sleeping.

I'll see if I can recreate them today, thanks for the feedback!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Jandyman:
Battery life for me on 1/30/11(1),-dunno if der is battery improvements on(2)?

been on sleep mode (pretty much 100% of the time) for about 6hours when I was at school (8am-11. . .den again from .1pm- 4pm) and I was down to about 70%

So 30%=6hours sleep

5%=1hour isn't it?

This was with gps/sync/data off!

And using juicedefender in 'agressive mode' :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Hrm... I wonder if JuiceDefender was hurting your battery life, or if it was because you were inside a school building...

If the phone is struggling to get signal, it'll really skew battery drain stats.

Also, what were you doing between 11 and 1? That's 2 hours, if you were doing a lot during that time then those drain stats aren't so accurate either :p.

In full deep sleep, I'm getting less than 1% drain. I went to bed with 64% battery, and woke up (~8hrs later) with 58%. So only slightly less than 1%, but hey it is less ;).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Jandyman:
Juicedefender stats claim that it saved me x1.68 battery. But I'll try tomorro and see without it to be sure its doing any good.

Also between 11-1 my fone was off, droped my fone . .which is unusual for me and battery fell out :( embarressing moment :P and den I left it off untill 1.15 to be precuse.

But your right, signal can be fairly sketchy in places in my school building so if that has a major effect on battery maybe that's where the lost performance went?

Anyway even at 5% an hour its an improvement which let's me use android daily now :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] vnes1984:
Rhod400 on FRX04. I've tested on the kernals from 1/26 and this latest on 1/30 (2) is truely amazing. Goes to sleep faster and I'm 100% on the panel so far...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Zombie069:
Maybe an idiot question, but when trying out this or other kernals, do I need to delete the other existing modules files from the Andboot folder?

Now I have (from froyo install) m-2.6.27.46-01214-g351b39d-dirty.tar

m-2.2.27.46-01232-gb7033fd.tar

and

m-2.6.27.46-01253-gd53ddf6.tar

All in the andboot. I did the kernal change after the install as suggested in the froyo thread, but now all modules are listed.

The first is 8.07mb, the others are around 800kb, are these just supplimentals?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rpierce99:
Remove (backup and/or delete) the old zImage and modules files, insert the new ones in their place. At all times there should be a file named zImage (no extension) and exactly 1 modules***************.tar.gz and it should match the zImage.

As for the size, there a couple of ways those modules files are created and/or packed up, one of them results in a much larger file, you want the smaller one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Indeed...

Technically, you don't even need the modules file - the only thing that'll break is wifi. But do make sure that's there's only one modules file, and that it is matched to your zImage - otherwise you may have issues with wifi!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Zombie069:
Thanks for that info guy, my problem IS wifi, and this is probably why. Changing it now and I'll update.

Thanks again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] randomblame:
I also letmy rhod300 chargge over night and could not wake it thiis morninng. -sent frrom my rhod notice the multiple key reads grr
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] slapshot30:
That's very weird, I had the same experience. Also, today my phone had been sleeping for about 4 or 5 hours and the when I took it out, the orange light went on and it wouldn't wake, no backlight or anything. I think there is some kind of issue with sleep.

(tilt2, frx04)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] randomblame:
my light was also orange when it would not wake.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Gotta love these SoDs... did you guys resolve it by soft resetting/pulling the battery?

I didn't charge overnight, I wanted to see what the drain was in full sleep for an extended period. I'll mention this to WisTilt2, perhaps it can help trace down the SoD issue...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] randomblame:
I had to push the reset button - I should have tried connecting it via adb again maybe it would respond that way and we could get a dmesg dump no harm trying next time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] randomblame:
is there a way to set it to dump dmesg constantly - I don't think ramconsole would work well enough...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] aichemist:
Tested the kernal last night. There are times when you press the power button and it doesn't come back out of sleep mode. I have to press it hard a few times before I can see the lock screen. I'm not sure if anyone else having the problem.

Try charging last night as well with android with this kernal, I had a hard time waking it up.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Under what situations does the panel not wake? Is it easily re-creatable?

cat /proc/last_kmsg

will grab the last dmesg basically... Not sure exactly how it works, but after you soft reset to WinMo, boot into Android and adb in - pull that info and you'll have the last few lines of dmesg. If it was a long boot, you won't have all the way back to 0, the buffer runs out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Zombie069:
Got the files corrected, have this kernal set on there now, still no wireless, tries to connect, says obtaining IP, then disconnect and start over.

Also, have green light when asleep, but later when I pull it out of my pocket it's orange again. Maybe I'm hitting something, but I don't think so.

As for the wifi fix .txt, I have no dev tools, nor terminal emulator. I downloaded one from the market, but the keymapping is all screwed and there is no "/" key I can find to allow me to input the command.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Don't tell me you're connecting to a WEP access point....

We're not really trying to get this kernel to be 100%. It's a testing kernel, and we need to focus on what's being changed here - panel init/deinit, and caps/fn keys (which seem "done" at the moment).

As far as the wake - is it constantly orange after it goes to sleep? It should be solid green if it's sleeping... so if not, then there's an app somewhere that's waking it (assuming it is in fact going to sleep...)

Also, you must have a terminal emulator. However, it's easier to enter commands thru adb - this way you can dump the files straight to your PC.

Terminal Emulator FYI is at the bottom of the "Dev Tools" list. I prefer ConnectBot from the market, as you can use the virtual keyboard to get those special characters in there (although with F22's new rootfs, that'll be moot!)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Zombie069:
No WEP wifi, WPA2. Just won't connect, finds several just fine. As for the cap/fn keys, they light the wrong lights for me. cap gives fn light and vice versa.

I am thinking that the orange light out of pocket is me hitting the volume key as I grab it. It sits here in front of me with green light no problem.

There is no "dev tools" icon as I'm used to seeing from the tilt-driod days. I'll see about getting connectbot from the market.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SilentO:
wifi no good here

turn wifi on = error
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
You have to have a Dev Tools icon... are you on FRX04?

Also, I pointed out that on the RHOD300 those keys are reversed... I tried to keep the first post short and sweet, in the hopes that it actually gets read.

Don't care, we're not testing wifi in this kernel...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Ltilt2:
It seems that when you download an app that's when the SOD appears. that's is why, I deleted all downloaded apps and running vanilla. I have had no problems since. my 2 cents
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Have you had an SoD from charging or running the built-in wifi tethering...?

I haven't had one from charging, but I've had a ton from wifi tethering.

It does seem to be related to apps trying to pull the phone out of sleep, but I don't think your 'solution' can really be called that... No offense, it's just not getting to the root of the problem. Also, I don't know about you... but for me, the point of Android is all the apps. I don't think I'd use it if it didn't have all these awesome apps :p.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] cacapee:
I installed it yesterday and overnight battery dropped very little. I got a green light very soon. However now during the day, it's always orange. I tried killing all apps with taskiller and also stopped the messaging service - no luck.... :-(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Zombie069:
This is the download I installed from, Said FRX04.

FROYO_X_2011.01.28_FULL_PACKAGE
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Pete Rask:
Hi arrrghhh

What will be needed to have panel collapse working on other devices?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Will need registers, or documentation. I'll have more info when WisTilt2 is ready to tackle other devices, thanks!

That says FROYO_X not FRX04.... So you're not running FRX04. Please test on an official XDAndroid build, thanks.

GPS is disabled in Loc&Sec? As is 'Use Wireless Networks'? This kernel is no different from regular kernels in terms of going to sleep, so the same tricks apply to get this kernel to sleep...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Ltilt2:
Yes, I had SOD while charging. so someone from here told me to get rid of any apps I downloaded fromt the market and it seems that did the trick. and wifi I dont use, I have enough data on my plan.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Interesting... I wonder what app would be causing it, I didn't add many...

I have unlimited data, but I like to be able to tether that data connection to another computer so I can give my laptop data on the go... That's all I use wifi for really.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] aichemist:
Can someone try this.

Crashing an app and see if you can sleep properly afterwards(no green light). I have to do a reboot back to windows and startup haret again to have it work properly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rpierce99:
I just launched shopkick (an app I've had crash on me several times), I had to turn on GPS location to get it to run, so I did that, then ran ShopKick again, checked in a few places, it FCed on me, I turned GPS off, and then let the phone go to sleep, it went to sleep (green led) as fast as it normally does.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] aichemist:
I will test the FRX04 with this kernal tonight and see if it happens again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Christiaan91:
I tested the kernel for a while.

- Battery life is good with medium usage. (around 15/16 hours, data on, synchronizing twitter, email continuously and running whatsapp)

- Waking up goes good, didn't have any delay.

- Shift led is working.

- FN led isn't working.

(capslock isn't working, but that's common, right?)

Edit: Signature is wrong. I'm running FRX04Fixed
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] cacapee:
Ah... I'll try this when it happens again. I rebooted in the meantime

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rpierce99:
It will happen again, every time GPS is on. GPS on = no sleep, ever.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] slapshot30:
I don't think charging has top be the issue with the SOD, I had it once today without charging. One thing that they have in common is a long period of time in sleep mode. Once overnight and once in my pocket for about 5 hours. My data was on so my guess is that some app(s) using data might've caused it... I don't know though, just trying to help troubleshoot.