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[Nexus S General] ravidavi:
What on earth is going on here at XDA. I've been following XDA for a long time, but this is the first thread that I really merits a response.

No you didn't. You read a RUMOR that it MIGHT come out AS EARLY AS Feb/March, and POSSIBLY for T-Mobile. This rumor was started by RCR Wireless, and while they claim to have a reliable source, it is still a rumor as of now.

I'm sorry, but you and your friend are both very, very clueless. If you don't get fast speeds with 3g, then your speeds won't improve for 4g. Your speed at that point is limited by the network in your area, not by your phone's lack of 4g.

Facetime is an app for the iPhone.

Video chat does not take up gobs of bandwidth, and the bottleneck for video chatting is one's upload speed, not download speed. Max upload speeds are the same for 3g/4g connections.

So to sum it up, absolutely none of what you said matters for video chat.

You'll go crazy in the mobile phone market with a lack of technical knowledge coupled with a fickle attitude (unless of course you're made of money, in which case you'll be fine and the economy will benefit). I suggest you read up on when 4g speeds are actually useful, and what benefits dual-core will or will not bring. Otherwise I guarantee you'll be severely disappointed by SOMETHING with the optimus 2x.

p.s.

I apologize for the rude tone of this message, esp since I'm new to XDA. I get the OP's frustration ... when you plunk down $500+ for a gadget, you expect it to do everything. But the capability of ANY gadget is limited by the knowledge and understanding of the person using it. So to the OP I say, relax! Enjoy your Nexus S ... after all, you did say that you like the phone. So take the time to understand how it works. Play around with video chat when nobody else is around, so you won't have to worry about being embarrassed. Run speedtest.net, and see how fast your connection really is (if it's less than 7Mbps, then 4g wouldn't do anything for you anyway). Then if you still decide to return it, at least you would've made a concerted effort to use it to its full potential.
[Nexus S General] sstang2006:
Definitely dual core phones will come next year. But not even dual core tablets have been released yet. So i don't think I can wait 6 to 8 moths running a VERY out of date device just to wait for dual core.
[Nexus S General] ravidavi:
Very true. It seems like there are 3 main criteria for whether or not to get a new phone (maybe more, others can add).

1: How old is your current phone?

2: Do you want to have bleeding edge technology, advanced technology, or dated (i.e. very inexpensive) technology?

3: How much money do you have?

My current phone is 2 years old (Nokia 5800), so I'm strongly considering the Nexus S. Sure it's hardware will be overshadowed in 2011, but as you said, it is the culmination of over a year of real-world Android hardware/software testing. It works, and will have software support for a long time.

If instead my current phone was less than a year old, then I would probably wait to see what happens in 2011. The new devices will no doubt be buggy. Battery life will probably be bad at first. Multithreading is a very risky programming undertaking; only certain apps can really make use of it, and even those that do need to be rewritten for it. In addition, the fact that none of the upcoming devices are pure Android means that their support lifespan will be short (I'd be surprised if the Optimus 2x is still supported by the end of 2011).

It will be an exciting year for Android for sure, which in no way makes the Nexus S any less of a capable device.
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
i dont think it will effect the iphone since people who look for andorid devices are not the same people looking for iphone.

needless to say i am waiting for apple come next year to pretend that their iphone 5 is the evolution of phones with its dual core.

typical steve job. and this is coming from someone who love his iphone 4 to death :rolleyes:
[Nexus S General] kolyan:
tough choice......

All really depends on xda development. Vibrant is running super fast now thanks to Team Whiskey and Voodoo ext4 kernel (still not as fast as Nexus S). Running Froyo with Gingerbread theme really makes it Gingerbread-like..... Plus you get extras.....Gorilla glass, bluetooth 3.0 (saves battery in stand-by), SD-card slot, Touchwiz features, codecs, 720p, TV-out etc.....can mod for FFC as well. Nexus S has flash light, FFC out of the box, 2.3, well and pretty useless NSC chip or whatever is called

Galaxy S have been out for 6 month now and development is very strong i think. Maybe Nexus S will catch up very soon, maybe not :)

2.2 vs 2.3 is very little change. Most changes are visual and game optimizations....

Updates......Vibrant will never see a real 2.3 from Samsung, Nexus S will get 3.0. I am personally waiting for 3.0 devices and VERY happy with my Vibrant. I really dont see what all the fuss is about on updates.....the only real update NS will see is 3.0 and by that time dual-core better phones will be out running 3.0 already......if not, THEN i might get NS instead.
[Nexus S General] tekkitan:
sorry but how was that bull****? seriously, there are at least two other threads with this exact same post. SEARCH BEFORE POSTING.
[Nexus S General] rashad1:
Please STFU.

Most places don't even have 3G, so how is "4G" going to be the new standard. 3G isn't going anywhere, infact the "4G" labels being used today are all 3G technology. These companies are trying to sell phones to the masses, and the masses could give two ****s about "dual-core" processors. Also these phones aren't going to get thicker, people want to see thin phones, thin phones use thin batteries. The more processor power, the more battery power you will need. So we will see very short battery life if you actually use both processors on a dual core phone. WTF do you need a dual core processor for anyway? texting, mobile games, browsing all work fine without one. Look at Rage HD of the iPhone, best mobile game I've seen thus far, all on current gen hardware.

I can only imagine these processors being used for gaming, and if we look at the gaming industry, they have been using the same hardware in their devices for 5 YEARS. We don't need to upgrade every time we add 100mhz to the clockspeed of a processor.
[Nexus S General] kolyan:
This is bs. Companies already said that dual core will actually be better on batteries
[Nexus S General] Kubernetes:
Honestly, you would be seriously dumb to drop cash on the first dual-core phone. It will be months, if not a year, before such phones become well-supported and worth an upgrade. Go ahead, be a first adopter. And then 6 months later a better version will drop that fixes all the problems with the first iteration.

So yeah, you can be like the guys who bought the original iPhone, but personally I'd rather be like the guys who waited for the 3G or 3GS.
[Nexus S General] rashad1:
When only using half the potential of the processor, yes, but using both processors, no. Please link said article.
[Nexus S General] kolyan:
Look at laptops. More powerful cpus and yet they are better on batteries. Mostly because they operate on much lower voltage. Same will be with these new dual cores. I am waiting for Galaxy S2 and words on 3.0.

For me Nexus S is nothing special and 2.3 is also nothing new
[Nexus S General] Smokexz:
I am happy with mine, Nexus One and Nexus S, always going to be the best. Just because they get Android updates first. It comes from the big G themselves, LG made a promise, how many other manufacturers made such a promise? Samsung *cough* *cough*. I love my Vibrant, but the fact that it is running on an unofficial version of Froyo( pretty slow, even with lag fix), makes me doubt this device will live, even with Hardware that will last for about 3 years. Just like Nexus One, the Nexus S should never feel out dated at all.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] ravidavi:
Although I understand the comparison you're trying to make, you are comparing apples to oranges. For example, I could easily retort with, "well my laptop only gets 4 hours of battery life which is way worse than a cell phone, so dual core must be worse on battery than single core."

The fact is, the overall battery life of a cell phone is affected by different factors than for a laptop. On the laptop, you have moving components such as a hard drive, plus a large screen (compared to a cell phone). You also have a much, much higher capacity battery. On a cell phone, it's mostly wireless communications that use up the battery, then the screen itself, then apps (unless you continuously run processor-intensive apps for the entire battery life, which is very rare). Mobile phone processors also have considerably different space and heating constraints than laptops (which in turn are much different than desktops).

So it's incorrect to equate dual core on a laptop with dual core on a mobile phone based on battery life. In the end, there is no way to do this comparison before phones with dual core processors are actually released. Any comparisons before that (whether you're for or against it) is speculation unless you work for nVidia, in which case you'd be fired and prosecuted for saying anything about it. :)
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Not going to get into a winded debate with you over a difference of opinions. This is a message board. Expect people to have points of views.

You're mostly arguing against points I never made. Did you read the rest of what I wrote? I said this wasn't a knock against the Nexus S, per se. Just that people will value these things differently. As for the argument that we don't "need" 4G or dual-cores, that argument is farce. We don't "need" many features in our phones, yet that doesn't mean people can't be disappointed by the lack thereof; and it certainly doesn't mean people can't voice them at an open message board.

In general, this call for censorship on opinions oppose to one's own is astonishing. No one (that I'm aware of) is calling for people who are happy with their Nexus S to stop praising it. There's also an obvious and simple solution if you're really bothered by opinions different from your own: you don't have to read these threads.
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
because its bull**** ? how about you read more about the dual core processors before you tell me to go check other threads people started ?

you are not smart.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MRTYN:
New owner of Galaxy S.

Applied one-click-root and OCLF.

Everything seems to be working perfect up to the point when OCLF reboots after (succesfully) installing the lag fix.

After this the phones just shows a black screen with the two hardware buttons on the bottom lighting up.

Did a factory reset and tried applying the fixes again but with the same result.

What did i do wrong and how can i apply the lag fix?

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] firezero:
You've to be patience and wait for it to reboot,it might take a while to reboot(about 5-10 mins).;):D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myst1k:
I had the same problem before realising that I need to apply the permanent root and not the temporary one. After I did it OCLF worked like a charm!

Give it a go and let us know if everything is okay.
[General Topics] mgthevisionary:
...well my personal MOST absolute favorite feature about the iPhone is that I can always wear this logo...

hahaha! :) Sorry to be so crass but whatevs. This stuff is so perfect I had to post it plus I'm surprised we're JUST now seeing a print like this one. I actually think even the iClones will like to wear this print anyway since they're usually into whatever is trendy. :D This way, its completely outspoken and I never really have to say anything. I can be on a bus, in an elevator, at the grocery store...ummm, AT&T Store, anywhere! Its AWESOME!!!

So Merry Christmas to my XDA fam, ant-iPhonies, and iCloners alike!! This is legit. I know the guy and they're doing pre-orders now, so I know I'm getting one.

Anyway, I thought I'd put it out there for my XDA fam. I've been following for hella, but I rarely post, and keep a pretty low profile. Usually I figure things out my dang self but I'm always turning people onto the community. I mean how many times have you run into someone with some HTC phone and its still got the protective shipping plastic on the back about to fall off (like your grandmas' 40 year old plastic covered couch) and you can tell they haven't even begun to use it?! Yeah, I know...what a waste right. And thats why I am very grateful for this gash darn community.

Ya'll Rule, XDA!!!

HTC -4- LYFE biiiiiiaaaaaaaaaa...*cough**hack*...umm, well at least after this Samsung Captivate goes out of style THEN I'll be back to HTC...cool?! :o

ps...to be truthful, it doesn't have much to do with iPhones or Mac's to me. I'm sure they technically do their jobs well. However, its the "greater-than-thou" attitude that seems to inhabit people once they "wield" a APPLE device that enrages me. Some one gets an iPhone or a MAC and all of a sudden they apparently 1) know calculus, 2) speak 3 languages, 3) can locate Tanzania on a topographical globe, 4) and wear Birkenstocks?! EEF all that madness. Its more the big corporate One-Size-Fits all mentality that enrages me.

pps...any thoughts?
[General Topics] orb3000:
Very nice but off topic have to go
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djdiablo:
Tried searching for this but couldn't find an answer.

I have four OEM Vibrant batteries, I numbered them, rotate using each one in numerical order.

My question is this....do I have to wipe battery stats for EACH different battery used or is it a one time thing?

Thanks!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Good_Orion:
Are you rotating batteries as they die and then putting in a fresh one or what?

To my understanding, the battery stats file is specific to that battery. But that's only after the battery has been fully reconditioned. So when you put in a new battery it will need to be reconditioned anyway to get an accurate reading. Which means fully charging, wiping the stats, then fully draining and recharging again. To me, wiping the stats and completely reconditioning the battery seems kind of pointless if you are putting a fresh one in after the previous dies.
[Galaxy Tab General] xoltrix2000:
Hi. I recently tried to find out from the LauncherPro forum if there is a way to rectify a lag problem when using Live wallpaper and the app drawer but apparently there is just no way? I'm having trouble believing and thought I'd post it here.

Basically, if using a live wallpaper, the app drawer is REALLY choppy/laggy and skips frames. I was thinking perhaps if there is a way to "pause" the LWP or something like that when pulling the app drawer.

This is the original topic from the LauncherPro forum:

http://launcherpro.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1890
[Galaxy Tab General] Beerkan:
The very reason I stopped using LiveWallpapers.

All fine and dandy showing off when iPhone users are around, but disabling LWP brings my TAB back to silky smooth operation.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] savbers:
I've brang my t-mobile samsung galaxy S vibrant to canada.

It is unlocked and works fine for sms, calls and 3g (which needed an apn).

I needed to set up my mms setting so I went to access point names and put in the apn for mms which was mms.windmobile.ca I typed it in and selected it as an mms apn type, then saved. My mms's don't go anywhere they just stick in sending mode.

I'm running stock 2.1 rooted. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] maneddi:
I used titanium backup to backup my droid x and removed cardock from the phone. I can not get cardock to install from backup so I assume I need to move it manually. If so, where do I put it and what file extension should it be? Also, is the odex in it or is it seperate? I am new to android so please answer in really simple manner. I also have a post over in droid x general section that is related to this. Post is titled cardock 1.0 Thanks for any help.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] maneddi:
i figured out how to get the files i need from the backup folder to the /sd card itself but i can't get the files onto the phone. come on ya'll, can someone help out a new guy? i'm using astro... is that the right app to move a file from the card to the phone or do i need a different one?
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] marti766:
Anyone have the apk for v1.6.1 of pocket legends hosted somewhere? It's not coming up in the market.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] cscotty:
I dont have it on me. Do you have an android operated phone? If so you can just download it, copy to SD, and then plug it in. Oh, and what makes it even better is that you can just throw it on a USB jump drive and plug it right in.

Ah, this tab is beautiful.

Scott
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] marti766:
I actually found 1.6 online, played it, it made me upgrade to 1.6.1, and then 1.6.1 force closes, im running TNT3.0, anyone else able to get it to work?
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] ghostfaceg35:
Pocket Legends is dead on android tablets since the new client release. As of late last night the devs still had not posted in any threads (I haven't checked their forums this morning yet).
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] Acturbo:
I had 1.61 working on Vegan yesterday, they I had to repartition and redo my apps and now its not working. Strange that it worked when I updated it but it wont now.....................
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] marti766:
weird, anyone ever have it working on TNT3.0? I'm just hoping dungeon defense works, that game looks great...
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] theimpaler747:
Moved to apps
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] lordgodgeneral:
No luck here either. New version works on cyanogen beta 4 but not tent lite 3.0
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] flashlight1:
Doesn't work on vegan b3 either

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/sho...ends-Broken-Logcat-potential-fix-inside/page2

And

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/sho...tomatic-update-itself-today-please-help/page2
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] Hal0053:
No luck on my end either

Running Vegan beta 4

I would really like this app to work!
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] Xarrdroid:
Fyi. 1.6.2 out and fixes force close. Goto

spacetimestudios.com

New user won't let me post link

The forum has a link in android forum for those!of us who can't get it on market. Works great.

Enjoy
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] TheTruth:
yeah I had to do some serious bugging over there and went as far as compiling my own apk to get the tapjoy crap out and make 1.6.0 think it was 1.6.1.... thedevs yelled at me lol but the point was made regarding the need for speed when an update breaks support
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] normz007:
Odd... this game doesn't show up in my market? When I do a search. I changed to the new market and is still unable to query the game. Angry birds pop-up though... so I'm hoping someone can help me out on this problem. I'm running VEGAn and the new market.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] TheTruth:
Goto spacetimestudios.com, click on forum, then android, then one of the first stickies there is the apk file for those without market or those who cannot find the app in the market. Hope this helps!

Edit

Same information about 2 posts up too lol didn't see that their either
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] normz007:
Thanks :) Can't wait to try it out on my gtab... had an account before on my wife's Ipod Touch.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] muerteman:
Just got it from their website, and just started on my gTablet. So far so good. How much of my life is about to get eaten lol?
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] TheTruth:
lots... lol
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] TheTruth:
I think accounts are interchangeable between platforms... is that true?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caseym:
So I was running Skyraider 3.3 and I got the Market update. Then I switched to the MIUI rom a couple of days ago and I haven't gotten the update yet. Does anyone have the apk or do I just need to wait for it to auto-update?

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jakaro:
Open the market, press home key and wait about ten minutes, that worked for me after upgrading on virtuous.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juttschallenger:
I'm also having the same issue. Running MIUI but market will not update.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spiritcrusher33:
That worked for me when I had to nand back..
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] masully1984:
Check out the themed markets by Fernando Sor in this thread, version 2.2.7

Sent from your mom's phone
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MMBosstones86:
just download the updated apk from here, i think its around this forum someplace. thats what i did
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magneticzero:
market won't update if the Dev signed all the apk files...google has their own signing key.... so it wont update, neither will google maps etc.

try installing the original vending.apk
[General Questions and Answers] criptix:
Was wondering if anybody knows where i can find information about porting roms as i have just got a cdma desire and would like to port some of the gsm roms but dont know where to start....and yes i have searched and searched but come up with only people asking the same question.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manjish:
Ok I have a very silly question. Does flashing too much harm the nand ?im flashing a hell lot of roms and kernels. Asking it because to go from sgs rom to nexus s port I have to flash the kernel each time and im playing with it. Also I like trying cm nightly builds. From what I've learned kernels are flashed to same nand and the nand has wear levelling capability.

I an very far from usa and have the vibrant.so don't want to destroy it beyond print or ill have a 500$ brick.

Any enlightment on this would be appreciated. Thanks
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rakeshchn:
I think nand chips like most solid state memory support writes several hundred thousand times. So you should be good.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] epakrat75:
Any writes performed on the device decrease it's lifespan. Whether it's done by flashing, installing apps, loading various media on it, etc. You shouldn't need to worry too much about it. Even a serial flasher's phone will likely brick (for other reasons) before the SD card gives out, I'd think.

Solid state flash indeed has a limited number of write cycles. However, it is unlikely that you'll encounter this within the normal lifetime your phone. Several hundred thousand write cycles should be possible before it expires. SD cards also include circuitry to manage "wear-leveling". This spreads writes over the whole of the storage media to try to avoid writing to various frequently written locations too often which could cause premature failure.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manjish:
Thanks guys.....ya I was thinking the same but since 2 gb is partitioned for the system ,i started thinking what if I messed that 2gb partition.but I guess wear levelling will use whole nand chip to manage wear.
[Captivate General] mobileseq:
Mines 1007. I think it means 3 button download mode will not work on mine. 1010 does work, tho. It looks like Best Buy sold me a old build of this phone last month, dang it.
[Captivate General] kdwolf85:
Mine is 1007 also. Never had issues getting into recovery using the 3 button combo or download mode using the 2 button combo. My GPS works well enough for a phone. I never expected the GPS to work as well as a standalone devices.