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[HD2 General] rlydiard:
I guess by now that many of you may have browsed this thread.

There was a time on XDA-Developers when the members were mostly software and hardware engineers, along with others like me who have a passion for HTC, a local Taiwan company that many on the island are proud of.

As the years have rolled by, the membership has grown and changed, and much of the wisdom, gentleness and politeness of the original members was overpowered by people who are not so circumspect.

Well, now it looks like the situation here on XDA-Developers has gotten out of hand, in many ways, and because of that we may well now not get any more official updates from the Dark Forces Team.

I think just one example of problems is even the title of this thread. When one sees "Latest Windows Phone 7 Update from Cotulla" one expects to see a thread opened by Cotulla.

I have urged caution before, but for the most part, I was ignored, and now we have arrived at this point. Hopefully what else goes on in this thread will not add more to present frustrations.

On a side note, has anyone else noticed that some posts in threads are mysteriously disappearing? It has happened even in this thread. Are XDA-Developers servers having problems, or is XDA-Developers now itself under the attack of hackers?
[HD2 General] tarekkkkk:
rlydiard you talk too much
[HD2 General] DonDie:
\o/ nice one. He acts as if its the end of the world.:D
[HD2 General] JesusFreak316:
He's right though. The childish behavior by a few has offended the dft team. Look on the front page of the HD2 general forum. mwang, the owner of the DFT websites posted that he gives up and won't be posting any more updates here. It is a fact that XDA and the HD2 forum have far more users than developers. While that is not necessarily a bad thing, as I don't consider myself a developer, there are many users who are just downright rude. There are people constantly posting "leaked" wp7 roms, not telling people that if they flash it they will not be able to go back at best, and (far more likely) will brick their phone at worst. It's just chaos here.
[HD2 General] kevmass:
rlydiard, well done. I have been monitoring these threads i have tried my best not to post but wait paitently for WP7 and i dare say if the DFT have decided to stop working on the project due to the childish behavoiur on XDA ( Who could blame them) that their will be alot of upset HD2 owners who have sat on the sidelines just watching and eagarly awaiting this. I Think that the HD2 is just like carlseburg , probbabbly the best phone in the world . What other phone can boot a whole host of operating systems from windows mobile to windows 98, android to ubuntu. I take it upon myslef to say sorry to the Dark Forces Team for all the inpaitent people who are causing roits and basicly arguining between themselves when really as poeple have clicked on there is one team for our HD2 and if wasn't for them we would not be able to flash our phones in the first place ( who made hspl ?)

any way that is my two pence on the situation, and now i will go back to looking at xda on a regularly just to see if by some small chance the Dark Forces Team can forgive all the people who have been shouting at them and realease WP7 for our HD2
[HD2 General] aceo07:
rlydiard, you're right. Unfortunately some users turn into immature/inpatient children when they're waiting for something (that they don't even contribute to).

Just let the appropriate people post the updates when they're ready. Let them post it. After all, it's their work and their pride. Don't steal that (opportunity to announce it) from them.
[HD2 General] Nevralgeek:
+1

Exactly what I think (even if I said this in a bit more rude way on the other thread)

After all if you, impatient people, are not ok with what happens, rather than crying and insulting people that are smarter than you and that you should respect, because they are working hard, for free, for YOU, you can blame and mail HTC because they made us buy theHD2 with a wp7 in mind, and they don't make enough good things for this so good smartphone, the best ever built...

While you annoy them you won't bother DFT and us
[HD2 General] Moon2:
I did notice this, but I thought the mod must've deleted 'em cos they were pointless, and useless.

PS. I agree with your point.
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
Thanks

Thanks for the support guys. I know for certain at least one of the Dark Forces Team members will see your posts on this thread and appreciate your comments. I better not say more now, or some(one) may accuse me of talking too much again.
[HD2 General] drjawad:
we all suppport DFT long live DFT
[HD2 General] evolutionqy7:
This should have had the same writting as it does on NAND Android tread to keep children away. Its not fair upon who sit waiting and let the devs do their thing.
[HD2 General] Samsunguy:
sorry i dont have that power im not a modarator but ill see what i can do.
[HD2 General] copenhagen:
+1

-the servers are not under attack.

-dft won't pull anything from xda, as it's a major source of exposure.. that would be a dumb move that they clearly wouldn't make - and if they do.. who cares.. how hard is it to track down somewhere else?

-the original 'polite' members of xda are adjusting to dealing with all the noobs, but that hasn't changed since day one.. by no means has anything changed there- 1, 2, 5, 10 years from now, someone new will join and not read before they ask stupid questions, post stupid remarks, create threads with "wrong titles?" lol, pretty much everything thats happens over and over again since the beginning of time. It's how people like dft, you, me, etc deal with it thats going to make the difference. If you let it bug you to the point where you're making smalltime threats for other parties... ie: "dft's gonna leave xda, and I warned you a long time ago but you didnt listen" then everything will blow up and everyone gets DRAMA'd!

the way I see it is:

every new member to xda - is a potential new developer just waiting for a chance to shine.. so.. bring the new peeps on... the more the merrier. Who knows the guy that created the thread with a 'wrong title' (lol! whatevs) might be the guy that helps ms/google/apple write the most killerest piece of software that revolutionises the way we use our devices.

now.... safety meeting anyone ;)?
[HD2 General] mattfmartin:
Even if the chinese get pissed off

and say there leaving, Cotulla would still release it. Devs have more to worry about, than speculating threads.
[HD2 General] meptik:
I somewhat agree with this. Rlydiard's concern over noobish comments, demands and whatever is justified. If any DFT member would pop by here, he/she would probably not be happy to see how ungrateful and disrespectful some people can be. They might get a rather bad, one-sided impression of the XDA community, since the people that are just patiently waiting will simply not post that often. However, no need to add to the drama. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hatred, hatred leads to suffering.

This, I feel, is too optimistic. The new users that are most criticized on XDA are those that:

- don't read

- refuse to do their own research on anything

- expect other people to do their work for them

This kind of behaviour is in my view simply incompatible with being a developer of any kind, let alone a good one. I doubt any one like that will ever contribute to the community at all, actually.

I agree that we need to be a bit patient with noobs making minor mistakes, though, like creating threads with titles such as "[Q] Help!" or "[Q] Question...". Just answer their questions, and advise them how they can improve their posting style.
[HD2 General] Samsunguy:
Update 3: marketplace on wp7 doesn't work

00:39	warrenb213	how goes it on your stuff? wp7 market working i heard in the rumor mill?

00:39	<=*thekid14 left/quit

00:39	warrenb213	magldr? looking good? :)

00:39	Cotulla	not working market
[HD2 General] Tico.ASandoval14:
00:40	PUTAS	but its can be fixed xD

00:40	MN__	it is because of windows genuine problem correct?

00:40	warrenb213	lol how is that putas? capture of certificate or something?

00:40	PUTAS	NM__ already fixed in another roms of wp7

00:40	=> iwanrakic joins

00:40	PUTAS	the systems is like LIVE services

00:41	iDavid	warrenb213: just running a server passing tough a cloud or something

00:41	PUTAS	and can be break =)

Apperently it can be fixed. Idk who PUTAS is but lets hope he is a developer, thus, making him a reliable source.
[HD2 General] fireflamesniper:
Please remove my link from your post, im already trying to grt someone to delete it.
[HD2 General] shubh.27hd2:
when .... at my end???
[HD2 General] norpan111:
Yes, where is your end
[HD2 General] Archer:
lol... Star Wars much?
[HD2 General] shubh.27hd2:
well maybe i m new but still hating all this stuff... why dont people jus stay calm... and wait.. let it come .. whenever it does.. even at our end..
[HD2 General] :
not update, but interesting:

http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-marketplace-vulnerable-to-piracy
[HD2 General] fireflamesniper:
Hey , next time don't Copy And Paste next time.
[HD2 General] chvvkumar:
I am going offtopic here but IMHO all threads about WP7 need to be deleted/frozen until an official announcement is made by DFT/cotulla.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bray83:
So I was using Odin to flash the stock ROM so I could flash to Nero v3...Had some trouble with Odin now this icon is all I can get the phone to show me. Attempts to get back into download mode haven't worked. I've done the Volume up + Volume - and Power button.

Did I brick my phone?:confused:
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boystuff:
Did you have voodoo enabled when you flashed?

Unplug phone. Open odin. remove battery. Plug phone in. hold volume up/down keys. plug battery back in. should auto boot into download mode. I've seen that screen a few times and managed to go back to stock make sure its 512 pit jfd rom. Not ji6 513.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bnielsen40:
That icon looks so familiar... :D

Do what boystuff said...exactly. Don't touch the power button at all. And for me, I had to also remove both the sim and sd card along with the battery.

So to recap: take all 3 out, connect the phone to the computer via usb cord, hold down both volume buttons, then while holding them down insert the battery. It'll kick you into download mode.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] osugsxr:
same issue somewhat....,.

Having trouble using ODIN!!

as now I did the steps and all I have is the phone will boot up through the tmobile screen & S after that screen goes black with the 4 hour button home row lit up.???

As for the recovery I get the following when booting it:

move_check Start..!!

checksum confirmation need_checksum(1300........)

mbr_checksum in header : 4:1

mbr checksum: 533a4003d.........

mbr checksum error

movingand checksum cofirmattion fail

movi_checking done!

update media, please

update media, finished

#manual mode #

appling muti csc

installin multi csc

Much help would be appreciated!!! Have to work all day today which will be slow, so I can work on fixing this. My main question is what type of file is pit & tar? Pit properties is coming up as a window shell comand, Tar opens with unknow app? Not sure if this is my problem or not, I get ODIN to run and complete the steps and end up with the above.

Using Odin V1.3

512.pit

t959UVJI6
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raziel26:
Hi I am having the same issues here and i did everything that you said and i am still seeing the same connect your phone to computer screen and i did have voodoo enabled before i was attempting to odin back to stock. is there anything i can do i really hope that this is not a $500 paperweight :( i have odin v3.10 and 512.pit also
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icandy75:
Get back into download mode and flash Eugenes Froyo That Does Not Brick, that will wipe everything and fix your Voodoo issues. From there you should flash back to JFD then to anything you want.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raziel26:
thats the problem i cannot get into downloader mode
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icandy75:
Have you tried the batt pull method? You could also try adb reboot download. If these do not work for you your will need a Jig to get her back to life.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raziel26:
the Adb method does not work because the pc will not recognize that there is a usb plugged in with the phone and what is the batt pull method and if a jig is something hardware rigging i am a complete idiot when it comes to that
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icandy75:
Just pull the batt out. Plug usb to phone only first, hold down volume + and - and don't let go then plus in usb to your computer while still holding volume keys and put battery back in. That should work for you. A Jig is a rigged hardware piece that forces your phone to Dl mode.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] osugsxr:
where is the link for the eugene froyo files? Pda & Pit files needed please link.

To get into downloader mode this works everytime for me....

Start up ODIN, make sure phone is OFF (take out battery) plug back in

hold both the volume up/down (or more near center)....

While holding that plug in the USB connector,

this methods works all the time.

Im stuck in bootloops currently and do anything no responses yet.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bray83:
Sweet! that totally got me back into download mode...next question why am i getting stuck at file analysis?

bnielsen40, Boystuff, and Osuhsxr are totally right about the vol keys no crazy special soldering required.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icandy75:
Check your PM.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] nini8888:
any ppl know how to unpack the s(in_file_set) file download on setool?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] trapacska:
with sin2img, and to extract the files from your img file use unyaffs

sin2img and unyaffs are in this forum, use search.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] brixzen:
i use 7zip... try this.. i download file from omnius server.. and unpack using 7zip... ;)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] nini8888:
thx :) but i got some problem for sin2img and unyaffs can teach me how to use it , use the commed to extra it rite? but in dunno the commed for it

can give me the link for sin2image and unyaffs thx many:)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andr3w68:
hey there guys, i haven't found an answer to my question yet so i thought i would just post my question here.

With the new over the air update for the evo, I've heard that it is a root killer...

now, being somewhat new to rooting, i was wondering if i could re-root my phone easily, (like would unrevoked 3work?) and will i loose all of my apps and data on my phone? I know you do when you flash, and i don't see how this is any different than that but i was j/w. thanks guys i appreciate any help, and sorry for my noobiness.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bender1077:
You can flash the root version of the update located in the dev section. No need to unroot.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andr3w68:
thanks man, do you think you could link me?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bender1077:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=830153
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sekigah84:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=9663192#post9663192

3rd post. Answers your question and gives links to fully rooted 3.70.651.1 builds that are 100% unaltered.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mohawka:
I've noticed that after I updated to 3.7 my streaming audio has took a big hit as most of the streaming apps will connect but then drop the connection. I've tried xiia which is my fav streaming app but also Winamp and a couple others. All would either not play or have real bad sound quality. I went to the xiia web site and they were talkin about it there but I was wondering if any one here has had these same issues with the new ota
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mohawka:
so nobody eles is having internet streaming issues with say xiia, winamp, google listen, or just about any streaming app except for pandora and others that use the aac format
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dadoc04:
yes... there was a fix... let me find it for you
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dadoc04:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=884100
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mohawka:
Thanx for the link. But I found the temp fix on xiialive website after I posted here again
[Droid 2 Global General] Orite:
What's the difference in the two in respects to custom roms and rooting? My friend got a Droid 2 Global last night and I'm not even sure where to start with it.

Thanks
[Droid 2 Global General] coldbloodio:
I also need help on this. My brother just got a new droid 2 global and I don't even know where to start either. Is it the same as the Droid 2?
[Droid 2 Global General] newk8600:
Rooting is the same process for the D2, D2G, DPro and the DX. But each one needs different ROMs although the process is the same to flash them.

Get root with z4root (google it) and then get koush's bootstrap (google for free or market has a donate version) install the bootstrap (no need for rom manager bc bootstrap does it all except download roms) then reboot into recovery and make a backup. (Because the SBF isn't out for the D2G yet.)

So be careful when installing and check your instructions 4-5 times only flash roms for the D2G because D2 roms will brick your phone until we have the sbf for the D2G.
[Droid 2 Global General] theimpaler747:
Please do not advertise or encourage warez. Thank you.
[Droid 2 Global General] newk8600:
Last I knew koush had a free version on his site. I don't mean to encourage warez I was just suggesting koush's free version as opposed to his donate version on the market.

EDIT: just checked and the free version is still up on koush's page but I encourage you to search for it in the market as it is a vital piece of software that we need on our phones and he has done all the hard work for us and deserves a thank you from us.
[Droid 2 Global General] srensber:
Koush's bootstrap is not a "vital piece of software that we need on our phones". I am a current Verizon employee/former Sprint technician/MCITP and also a droid/linux/unix dev. I know what I'm doing and I encourage everyone to do their own research before just flashing/installing anything as it only takes a minute to trash your new beautiful phone.
[Droid 2 Global General] srensber:
tested root of D2G with no issues

Just use Z4 version 1.3.0 which allows you to un-root also which the earlier versions don't. No bootstrapper required if you just want to root. DO NOT USE THE CLOCKWORK MOD on the D2G, it will jack your phone all up and possibly brick it, it did to mine, worked great for a week/did backups and restores..everything, suddenly wouldn't stop booting to clockwork....then completely jacked it, permanently. Yes I've done this a million times before, no I didn't do anything incorrectly. Just use Z4 & don't believe anyone that says clockwork works on the D2G. Maybe some versions don't but I'm not bricking another phone to find out which one does.
[Droid 2 Global General] srensber:
It's an awesome handset though...go Motorola!
[Droid 2 Global General] newk8600:
I'm referring to the D2 in the "vital piece of software" thing without the bootstrap there is no way to install roms which I have been doing for 3-4 months since I've got my phone. I've never had a problem but I have SBF'd my phone something that moto should release for the D2G so people who have problems like you with recovery can fix their phone without sending it back to verizon.

I admit I have no experience with the D2G but the D2 is the D2G without the GSM radio and the simcard slot and some earlier software. Not that they are the same phone but they are closer than you'd think.
[HTC Aria General] campracing:
i flash all the roms i found and i like this one the best but now i can not remeber where i got it from can someone tell me what i have lol i know its is a funny question but i am lost
[HTC Aria General] jeebuz:
You have an HTC Sense based Liberated ROM, version FR008.
[HTC Aria General] campracing:
thanks so does that mean i am running froyo 2.2 or just 2.2 or something differnet all together

sorry this is the frist time i have ever rooted or moded a phone
[HTC Aria General] Noz85:
Froyo 2.2 is what you got

sent from my HTC Intruder
[HTC Aria General] zervic:
Fyi froyo IS 2.2...just as gingerbread is 2.3 and eclair is 2.1
[HTC Aria General] jeebuz:
Oh yeah, sorry, forgot to add in which OS you're on. Lol, but what they said ^

(:
[HTC Aria General] campracing:
Thanks again this site has been helpful glad I found it
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shaquiel Harris:
Anyone attempted to port our swype from stock 2.1? Because honestly that's the best swype to even use and I can't go back to 2.1 to use it.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] lefty83:
So most people should have heard about currentwidget by now, most people talk about it and use it to see what battery drain occurs during standby mode or airplane mode.

Now I'm sure most know this but incase you didn't, currentwidget helps to ensure your battery is fully charged as well. This is good for people that complain about their battery dropping quickly after a full charge.

You can use currentwidget to monitor your charge, when the battery says its 100% and led is green, currentwidget still shows power going to the battery in form of "ma". I noticed my battery said it was charged and eventho at 100%, currentwidget still showed "ma" is being delivered to the battery . After two hours only it showed 0ma, now I'm sure that means that eventho my phone said its charged, it wasn't fully charged until 0ma were displayed in currentwidget. Since I noticed that, I've been charging my battery "fully" and did notice my battery stayed much longer in the 90-100% aisle when being unplugged.

So if you feel ur battery drops too quickly from a full charge, use this widget to help monitor your charge.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] liorra3:
yep, tnx for the tip, im useing clarus battery and its do the same - and i like the widigt so...
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] mjehan:
the current widget always shows some value of mA . how do we know when the battery is really full ?
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] lefty83:
Well with me after 1hour at 100%, it shows 0ma. That's when I know the battery is completely full and reached its maximum capacity.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] mjehan:
I don't think waiting for the battery to get to the 0mA level is good for the battery performance. Usually the green LED comes on when the widget shows 50mA.

A high-charge concentration for a long time in a Li-Ion battery is bad for the battery. Thats why mobile phones have a little buffer to stop the entire capacity to be full, and try to lose the first part of the full charge as fast as possible.
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] theboostman:
Since i use some RC Helicopter with li-po/li-ion that both have the same way to produce energy, I have learned how to use this kind of battery and how to ensure a good battery life/durability.

There is no reason to worry about the battery if you follow those few recommendation (given by a battery producer):

-Your battery has to be charged with a current of 1C max (1C mean 1230mA for a 1230mAh capacity).

-Your battery voltage must not be over 4250mV. If you go over, you may damage the battery and risk random explosion/fire. In normal use, it's better to not go over 4200mV.

If you charge the battery with your phone, you will never be able to go over 4200mV because the charge stop automatically before.

-Your battery must not be under 3300mV. Same risk as above. In normal use, it is better to not go under 3450-3500mV to ensure a good battery durability (numbers of cycle charge/decharge). I think the phone show 0% at near of 3450mV, but never check this cause i never wait my phone to be as close to the death.

-Your battery has to be drain at a current of 10C max, i.e for desire HD , 12.30A (1230mAh x 10).

:-) impossible to reach that current with your smartphone so no worries about burning your cpu with heavy bench.

Whatever you do respecting this will not be harmful for your battery.