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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] KrewsialNL:
strange?

I just found something interesting while using autokiller.

In the processes (i had the high drain again) there was twice the 'android system' mentioned.

I killed one of those entries, and the drain went back to 6mA.

Of course, can't be sure enough so i rebooted the phone, played with it a little and after 10 minutes of standby, i checked again. 54mA.

Again, Autokiller > processes and twice the android system. Killed 1 of them and back to 7mA.

I can't say why this happens, because in older builds (MDJ 2.4 Froyo clean w/ it's own kernel i don't have that issue).

I am no DEV or programmer, but maybe it's something others could test as well? I've been playing with this and trying to find out why this happens ever since the hastarin 8.6 kernel was released and I noticed it only happens with later kernels and mostly on RAM builds.

Just my 2 cents (or local currency my 2 bani ;) )
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] darkony:
I found this on other post
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] patmorris:
For whatever its worth: On MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 (and earlier builds) I can get 3-6mA in standby but anytime I change the Kernel or framework-res.apk and reboot, standby consumption goes up to around 55 mA all the time. Doesn't matter how many times I reboot.

I've been correcting this by rebooting to WM and recopying all the files in the android folder (CLRCAD.exe, Haret.exe, initrd.gz, rootfs.img, startup.txt, system.etx2, ts-calibration) except zImage (because I'm using a different Kernel than came with the build) and data.img. When I boot back to Android, back to 3-7 mA. I don't know why this works, but it consistantly does. At least for me.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bountygiver:
another tip by darkstone:

turn off the "use Wireless" in the Locations Settings help to solve the problem if you are having high drain when you got data/wifi
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] KrewsialNL:
That Darkstone quote

indeed solves the issue.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Louer Adun:
I have tried all the suggestions above but I still seem to get the 60ma bug.

I have disabled all secondary equipment (GPS/BT/WiFi).

I have tried disabling all syncs, and network services.

I have tried fast/hot rebooting the device.

I have tried rebooting the device normally.

I have tried rebooting the device normally and made sure that the button lights were lit (suggested in another post about this issue).

I have tried shutting the device down and performing a cold boot.

I am running the latest Energy Rom with HD2ONE and radio 2.15.50.14. I have been able to get 4-6ma using this same setup, but it would keep jumping to 60ma after a few hours. I would do a full reboot making sure that the buttons were lit before starting Haret.exe and this used to solve the problem, but doesn't seem to have any effect now.

I also notice that sometimes I have issues getting on the data network if my phone has been up for a while. For example, I will have 3g service but I get a connection error when trying to use the internet or market. This can not be fixed with a hot reboot. I have to do a full reboot to fix the problem. This makes me think that the radio may be at fault (I have been using the radio for about 2-3 weeks).

I was thinking of trying the 2.14 radio and see if this fixes the problems.

Is anyone getting less than 10ma on 2.15 radio? Any recommendations?

Thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] darkony:
For me the ultimate solution is to boot android as soon as posible

that you can achive with any bootmanger I prefer

mskip Android Loader 6.0 when install you pick no startup and adroid with softreset option

thats my choice because i use wm also
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] KrewsialNL:
Yes, I am having the official HTC UK Rom with the 2.15 radio.

The only thing that worked for me, was to untick the option 'use wireless connections' in the location settings. That solves it 100% :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Louer Adun:
Well I confirm that unchecking the use network services box does not fix it 100% of the time. Since this is not working for me, ill let you guys know if I have any luck changing the radio.

Also I am using a T-Mobile hd2, don't know if that makes a difference here.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pspknightx:
Everytime after i used wifi/data connection, there will be a chances that my phone standby mA will stuck at 50~60mAh ...

What i do is to either reboot it or manually sync those facebook, gmail contact and then it will back to normal mA like 3~7mAh on standby mode.

Sometime it's really annoying :(
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chong81:
Mine was ok initially (3-9mA @idle) before it suddenly shot up to minimum 60mA one day without reason.

Tried everything above, but no dice.

Only managed to fix it by Uninstalling Market using Titanium Backup.

Then I reinstalled Market via this apk. and thankfully current draw remained at 3-9mA. :)

Config:

HyperDroid SD v1.7

Kernel Hastarin 8.5.1 old cam

Radio 2.15.50.14
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom General] sugui:
hi guys

please help me w/ my atom life. when i launch the cam, it freezes. i tried several rom and even restoring the original rom, but still not working. i installed advance config but cam does not appear on the list. im assuming might be a software or hardware issue. i really really need ur help guys. thanks...
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom General] Hakim Rahman:
you must hard reset device...:)
[myTouch 4G General] kenczar:
First off I want to say Merry Christmas to everyone....I need help and since Tmobile is almost in possible to reach anymore I turned to the forums...I got my Mytouch 4G when it first came out and I love it!!!! First phone I ever had with NO LAG at all...But I cant send emails with the Exchange Email program? I heard everyone is having this problem? Does anyone have a fix for this yet? PLEASE PLEASE help !!!!...

Thanks, Ken :(
[myTouch 4G General] werk:
My Exchange ActiveSync account works fine here and has since I got the phone a few days after release. I also use EAS for my Google Apps account on my MT4G.

What happens when you try to send? Do you get some sort of error, or does the email sit in your outbox, or get saved to drafts?

Likely it's a problem with the Exchange settings on your phone or your organization's Exchange configuration. Best bet would be to talk to your Exchange admin.
[myTouch 4G General] kenczar:
When I send an email it doesnt show in my sent box or my outbox it just disappears from my phone and it never reaches the person im sending it to..I heard HTC knows of the problem but I called there and got no help like they didnt know anything about it...I heard its something to do with the Active Exchange 2010...I guess the Iphones had the same like problem but Apple fixed it already..I can do anything with the email except SEND.....Sucks bad cause i need it for work
[myTouch 4G General] werk:
Oh man, I forgot about that bug...I had a couple clients whose iPhones didn't work with their Exchange servers until iOS 4.1 was released.

I just tested with an Exchange 2010 server and am experiencing the same issue as you. As far as I can tell, there are 2 workarounds, one you can implement and one your Exchange admin can implement:

1) Install the default Google email app from 2.2. It works properly with Exchange 2010. You will lose search capability for your Exchange mailbox(es) with this, though. Here's a thread where someone posted the apk. I tested it out and it works for me:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=729753

Alternatively, you could pay for and install the Touchdown app from the market. Personally, I'm not a big fan of it.

2) Your exchange admin can create a new EAS policy for you (it can be exactly the same as the default if that's what is being used):

http://social.technet.microsoft.com...0/thread/bcc50ce4-0c97-4851-987d-1f5080d7942b

Please note that I attempted this with the 2010 testbed server I have access to and it did not work. However, this server does not have Exchange 2010 SP1 installed. I can't install the SP to this VM until my coworker is done using it for testing, so I can't tell you if this workaround works properly for our devices.

Good luck...sorry for doubting you, I forgot I was still using my phone with 07 servers.
[myTouch 4G General] kenczar:
Thats more than a bug....lol...But Thank you I will look into this
[G Tablet General] lilgotti56:
Since viewsonic released the kernel source code for the Gtab is it possible to start working on Android 2.3 for the tablet.
[G Tablet General] ninditsu:
it seems the vegan-tab team is updating their froyo to gingerbread. now all we need is patience.

however, i'd rather wait for a honeycomb rom
[EVO 4G General] ceg1792:
Ever since about 2005 I have not been a huge fan of Sprints customer service. They have gotten too corporate and do not care for the individual customer anymore. I have been with them since late 1994. My dad put his business through Sprint and he isn't one to jump around.

Well, this Christmas I have to applaud them. My phone was stolen on the 23rd because I gave a homeless man a ride to a shelter nearby and he took my phone when getting out.

I called Sprint to have my phone tracked, but I didn't have that service on my phone, even though every phone with gps is capable, I just didn't pay the premium. They sent me to Assurian who overnighted an Evo to me.

My Evo is my life and the fact they sent it overnight amazes me. Sprint partnered up with a great company for insurance. If you aren't currently paying for insurance on your phone, I suggest you do. They're miracle workers.
[EVO 4G General] admorris:
I would change your title...it's completely misleading. Sounds like you're quite impressed.
[EVO 4G General] Maikock:
hope you learned your lesson lol, theyre homeless for a reason!
[EVO 4G General] oohaylima:
Now that dude has all your porn and contacts. You're a perfect candidate for TotalCare or Where's my Droid.

Go check it out on the market. You'll thank me for it!
[EVO 4G General] ceg1792:
Well, if you read, I'm not impressed with Sprint. I'm applauding their partners. I'm not a huge Texas rangers fan, but they did an amazing job this year. I've taken some journalism classes, sorry that my title pulled you in. That's what you want from your article.

And I had lookout, which is just like find my Droid, but I was afraid it was draining my battery too much due to it backing up my pictures and contacts. Thankfully it did though.700 pictures are back on my phone.

Sent from the key to my world.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Boooohoooooo
[EVO 4G General] ceg1792:
This is exactly why I don't come into general talk. Just a bunch of ignorant folk.

Sent from the key to my world.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
You are ignorant. No detail or explanation to go with why Sprint customer service is awful.
[EVO 4G General] ceg1792:
This isn't about their customer service, there are plenty of threads about that.

Do you even read? Damn.

Sent from the key to my world.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
What are you not a huge fan of?

Just change the title to "wonderful insurance practices."
[EVO 4G General] ceg1792:
The title does not have to deal with the piece! It's simply the attention grabber.

Sent from the key to my world.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Well I apologize. Glad you had a great experience with the phone replacement procedures.
[EVO 4G General] drksilenc:
well if you think sprint's has bad cs then i suggest u stay away from ANY of the major carriers except for us cellular because sprint was moved to a tie with verizon in cs ahead of everyone else
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Sprint takes great pride in their CS and there will be a TON of changes coming in 2011 for CS, trust me on this. They should be overtaking Verizon and USC as long as these plans are implemented and rolled out correctly, which as you've seen it's been working. 10+ quarters of improved customer service, the only company to do so.

Unfortunately, as much as we would LOVE for customer service to be perfect, it is after all ran by HUMANS who, like all of us, have issues. You will NEVER find a customer service center without plenty of individuals who just really don't care. The day that companies start paying hefty wages for their representatives and have more than 1 supervisor per 15 agents is the day customer service for companies will excel. Now, the ratio of people with issues vs people without issues is very low so this will never happen.

I love my Bright House cable/internet. Sometimes when I call it's great, sometimes I just want to stab the person on the other end. It is customer service at all companies. By the way, Asurion also deals with T-Mobile, Verizon and AT&T, as well as plenty of other providers. Some people hate it, some don't. You don't mind as you are one of the few that understand deductibles. Those who don't understand deductibles have MAJOR issues. www.phoneclaim.com/Sprint - order there and your order is always overnighted, as long as it's in before 11pm.
[EVO 4G General] ceg1792:
I love Sprint, but with customer service they used to be king. Extend payment, give us the service best for our business, and just all in all be great.

My dads cheap cell didn't support sms, but they kept him on unlimited text and wouldn't switch him off due to some technicality.

The week the Evo came out, my dad decided he wanted one. They sent us three, no waiting the huge list. Last month I had to pay the bill because they wouldn't extend payment for my dads business. He is a contractor and had not been paid, so couldn't pay. They used to let him be a month or two behind. They're great at treating us, just give us bad service at times. I realize it is certain reps that just don't care and shouldn't reflect the company as a whole, but I've been quite dissatisfied as of late. They could have easily tracked my phone, I just didn't pay them for the service so they did not.

Sent from the key to my world.
[EVO 4G General] ceg1792:
Thank you for the link, sir. I actually work for ATT and deal with call center reps daily. I normally try speaking with the supervisor, but my mother deals with the Sprint reps and I hardly handle it. I just always get calls from her explaining how horrid the service is. My one time with them was pretty bad. The Evo they sent was supposed to be activated, Assurion stated so, it was not. I called and had to speak with several different reps who could not figure out why my phone was not working properly after activation. When speaking with the fourth rep, I asked if they had unlocked my phone yet. They had locked it because it was stolen. They had not and whenever she unlocked it my phone worked perfectly. That was just a mistake, I was not upset about it.

Sent from the key to my world.
[EVO 4G General] afazel:
I'd like to take a moment to point out that this may be true with regards to cell phone customer support or other types of customer support, but not with where I work.

Now, the customers we support are primarily IT administrators of some degree, and a large part of our clientele is enterprise-level, so maybe it's different here. We're all paid well. Our front line manager supervises 12 reps, and the tier 2 and 3 supervisors manage 5-7 people. That number gets even lower as you move up to escalation or our diamond level of support (who don't really need supervision anyway).

Anyway, I just thought I should defend my line of work. Not all customer support is hit or miss.
[EVO 4G General] ceg1792:
No, customer service is serving the customer for their every needs.

Them extending my payment date is good customer service because that is what I, the customer, wants.

Sent from the key to my world.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
sprint sucks

evo= win ;)
[EVO 4G General] craigbailey1986:
Wow, hey I don't want to pay my bill, in order to have good customer service you need to extend it... SERIOUSLY?

Ppl really think like that and its sad, you do know that they are running a business and if they did that for all customers they would be out of business?
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Wants and needs are two different things.

I can't payoff my car loan because I lost my job. So Honda should extend?????

Lol
[EVO 4G General] Nefariouss:
Maybe they should repo your phone if you can't pay the bill and get behind on payments.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
And that mentality is usually what comes into CS. "Extend my payment... what do you mean you guys can't extend my payment??? I've only been late every single month for the last 3 years! Wow you guys are horrible!! How the hell is it my fault that I can't pay my bill?!?!" Then comes the survey and the bad verbatim hurting Sprint because Mr. Sir doesn't know how to properly manage his finances.
[EVO 4G General] ceg1792:
I've been a customer for approx. 15 years and they can't extend my payment. I've got a business account, why would I screw the phone company that provides all of my 12 workers with phone service?

So its been a slow couple months for me, I still need phone service to do my business.

Corporate America doesn't understand a small business owner the way they used to. In the hard economic times I just hoped to get an extension. Instead I had to borrow money to pay my bill. Please, all I was asking was a little understanding in this matter.
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
Exactly why you dont pick up strangers off the street and let them into your car, your lucky it was just your phone. $10 says some crack dealer now has a nice EVO, with all your info and pictures.
[EVO 4G General] ceg1792:
That's fine, just a bunch of crap on there.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
We all fall upon hard times and Sprint is by far the most understanding company out there, hands down. Payment extensions, constant credits, activation/upgrade fee waivers, early upgrades. But the more you give, the more people want. I know for a fact they didn't deny your payment extension unless you were already 60+ days past due
[EVO 4G General] johnnychimpo:
Sprint customer service rocks. That's why I've stuck with them for 12 years! Never had any issues!

SWYPED from my Supersonic 4g!
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
Assurion is garbage, I lost one phone in ten years and the only time I had to use them I paid $100 bucks for an old POS refurb that had a glitchy screen and a busted speaker. To top it off I then had some retarded sprint tech tell me at least the speaker phone worked good and the busted speaker didn't sound all that bad.
[EVO 4G General] admorris:
Phone unplugged almost 12 hours and I'm at 89%. Didn't use it much, but still the best drain I have had with ANY rom, and I literally have used them all. Wont let me post confirmation pic because "shootme" takes in wrong format and I am using xda app. Will try to post pic later from computer.
[EVO 4G General] admorris:
Using stock kernel btw.
[EVO 4G General] nabbed:
You need to post the battery percentage, the off-the-charger time, the display on time, and what radios you have been using.
[EVO 4G General] quickbird144:
Luck you! I just moved to the Newest Fresh and using Baked Kernel #5. I get about 300mA at idle!! Why the heck is it draining that much at idle and NO 3g, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS. Just basic tower??? Gee. Starting to think I might need a new battery
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Pics or it didnt happen
[EVO 4G General] animal7296:
+1

10 Chars
[EVO 4G General] Compusmurf:
try going back to the matching stock kernel and make sure the radio's match for the 3.70.xxx.x rom.

Fixed my issues. :)
[EVO 4G General] apollooff320:
His gives great battery but phone ends up being laggy after a while.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Myns with Kings #9. I've used it, not much either. Over 15 text, about 3 calls. 1 or 2 websites and GPS approximately 5 minutes while I played with the 3D mapping and satellite view's. About 4 ShootMe picture's to keep up with the battery and 5 e-mails.
[EVO 4G General] patelkedar91:
Yeah I'm on Myn's with Baked Kernel 6 and get around 40+ hours with light usage. That includes some texts, maybe like 5-10 minutes of games, and few e-mails, and a little browsing.

Also, that's on wifi. Once break is over and I'm on 3g again, it'll go down by a lot.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
So with that said im guessing you have mobile data and all of that off... hardly if any data apps sync'd. I've used that exact combination before and got nowhere near that. And with only 6% idle? Seems odd...
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Data is on. Only app's I sync are facebook, twitter, mobile buzz and news and weather every 1-3 hours depending on the app.
[EVO 4G General] Rippley05:
People get crazy about battery life, I'm one of them hah

But if someone had to turn everything off that makes it a smartphone just to get 40 hours, then they prolly don't really need a smartphone, I can get easily 16 hours with above average usage, usually more... Why people need more than that all the time baffles me, you guys can't charge at night? You must sleep in the woods lol.

When you're only getting 8-10 hours max, I agree that its a problem..
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
I just don't use all the extra stuff that everybody does. I don't need the weather application, I can always open my front door before I go outside. I don't use my work email on my phone, I refuse. Work should be done at work and not home, I leave that time for friends and family, a line a lot can't seem to hold. Facebook, twitter, mobile buzz and news and weather are the only widgets/services I need synching. My phone back's itself up every night thru lookout, I forgot about that one and my contacts also sync every week. When I use the phone heavily, I can get about 8-10 hours. My phone is usually 20% to 10% when I leave work and that is extreme heavy usage including SlingBox for an hour or so.
[EVO 4G General] quickbird144:
Nevermind! Must have had some things running in the background. Been about 2 hours since unplugged and been on 3G, played maybe 5 minuted of Angry Birds, 2 emails, 2 2 minute phone calls, few texts and browsing the android market for about 10 minutes. I'm now at 84%

Android 2.2

Baseband 2.15.00.09.01

BTW I'm onFroYo's V4.1 - Logical Sense

SBC 4.2.2 more-havs Kernal

WebKit 3.1

PRI-1.77_003

PRL-60671
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Yea I figured.
[EVO 4G General] reprod:
Are you running a task killer as a service in the background??? :confused:
[EVO 4G General] quickbird144:
Well I have a task killer but it only kills task when I tell it to.

Sent from my tracking device.
[EVO 4G General] jdh10475:
Its the new kernel #15 a lot of people have been posting great battery life. I'm at 72% right now with 16.5 hours off charger.
[EVO 4G General] quickbird144:
So did a little test. Trickled charged about 30 minutes past 100%, took it off charge and immediately turned 3G on. Had to use GPS for about 5 minutes, made a few calls that were spread out over 30minutes. Email and Facebook updated every hour. Phone has been off charge since 9am EST today and was only down to about 37%. Stock battery, seems fair but I'm just trying different kernels out.
[EVO 4G General] gmarkiek:
Ok are you using the stock battery or the extended battery when you get life like that? I have extended and I play my tune in radio for at least 8 hrs. I might get about ten hrs of total use. I guess tune in uses a lot of power.
[EVO 4G General] jdh10475:
This is a screen shot with 52% remaining stock HTC battery running HTC kernel #15 / fresh.
[EVO 4G General] SayWhat10:
how come display and android system are not listed?

you had phone on for 17 hours but the display used NONE of your battery? how did you manage that?