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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Automan:
Hey Folks;

For some reason my harddrive decided to eliminate the " Energy.RHODIUM.28244.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0. for Dec.13th or 15th? ". It ws the las ROM NRGZ28 did before he did the 20th...

I need to find a copy of the one before the 20th as I am finding that wen booting Sense2.5 this Touch Pro boots Sense 5 or 6 times before it settles down, thus forth I tink there may be a slight bug running around somewhere? I looked at the SD Card, and all was done according to instructions. I have been updating and loking at the instructions carefully each time to see what problems might be there and how to get around them.

So I need to go back to the last Sense and Cookie 2.0 ROM till the holidays are over, as I figure NGRZ28 is going to take a break...I would, but in my position right now I can't...

If anyone has a copy and can get a link to me of this ROM I would really appreciate it..

I will have to go all the way back to Dec. 5th to do my work on this Cell, that I hve to complete...

Thanks Folks and Merry Christmas...

Also if any of my troops pick up on this hand in there it's coming and be safe! And a Merry Christmas to all of you, You're the best Soldiers I have had the previlage serving with. May God Bless all of you. Hang Tigh and Tough!! You know who you are...

Thanks again folks...!

Col. L.A. Hutcheson

Commander Special Forces

101st Airborne Division

aka Automan
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigchrizzieboy:
search, post in right thread next time

Simply fix it by disabling the task widget.

After a soft reset enable it again.

It's more then once posted in the NRG thread and NRG posted it on his twitter...

SO, next time post in the right thread and do a search...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dky500:
I think you can find mirror site by doing a search for EnergyROM Rhodium Mirror and look for something that mentions flip or something like that
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Automan:
OK So you can re-enable it.. Didn't catch that one.

My Appoligizes on that more than one posting..

I really appreciate it and Thank You for the reply.

I have almost completed the cross-over from cht 1.8.5 to 2.0 and using all the resources that are at my disposal to get done with this..

I will try the kitchen you mentioned before and see what I can do with it.

We have received order now, si it's just a matter of tme.. This make it kind of bad holiday for my wife. We truly do hope that the Asia area cools off, but if it doesn't we will take care of business!!

Take Care and thank You again..

Sincerely

Col. L.A. Hutcheson

aka Automan

C/S SwampFox
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Automan:
By the way:

I am looking for a good weather widget that might take the place of the of the one we had to dis-able.

Would be good on that page or add another page for it.. Having up t date weather would be a good asset..

I will search the forums..

Thank

Automan
[Nexus S General] nxt:
Well first, the new Market isn't on our Nexus S yet (officially), that's fine, it's just a UI update pretty much.

Now more seriously and more annoying, Google pushed out 2.3.1, that's great! BUT:

Whether you're rooted or not, there are missing apps on the Market because of 2.3.1

Some of the apps I use that I can no longer download from the Market are:

aFile, Fandango Movies, NYTimes for Android, PayPal, FiOS Mobile Remote

These are big apps, no reason they shouldn't be available.

I guess the issue is Google needs to input/enter/update their Market to "support" the new build of 2.3.1. ARE YOU F'ING SERIOUS? You just pushed the damn thing and don't remember to update your Market with the new build??

GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER GOOGLE! This is frustrating!

EDIT: ALL Copy Protected Apps do NOT show up in the Market on Android 2.3.1

Please go here and STAR the issue: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13514

EDIT: 1/5/2011-IT'S FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Nexus S General] slowz3r:
+1 i can confirm this
[Nexus S General] unremarked:
Have you tried editing your build.prop file to change the version fingerprint? I know this has been used in the past to restore "missing" apps to the market.
[Nexus S General] dudeimgeorge:
CALM DOWN

relax there, hot shot. you bought a pure android phone, early. You realize what that means is there will be glitches, patches, and rebuilds along the way. its happened before. the nexus one started off crappy with great potential and look at it now..its still top dog. so please be a professional with your purchase and know how to be a geek about it.
[Nexus S General] slowz3r:
I think the point is it shouldnt need to be done that way :p
[Nexus S General] nxt:
LOL I know, I've had a Nexus One. But still, really, this is a really stupid "mistake" by them, how can you overlook something like this? Shouldn't they have some sort of checklist they need to do before pushing an update to hundreds/thousands of phones?
[Nexus S General] unremarked:
Oh, I agree. :) Just trying to be helpful while we wait for Google to fix it lol. I've had to download the specific APKs and install them via AndExplorer for my missing apps.
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
Well, I disagree with your assessment in terms of the Market.

It's ridiculous that Google's flagship device with it's flagship version of the OS, sold to the masses through a big-box store like Best Buy should have something as basic as the build number not being recognized and excluding you from apps that should be available to you.

Such a small thing to take care of on their server end, yet overlooked. Just another one of those little things that a certain other mobile OS operator doesn't overlook that makes the rabid fanbois of it froth at the mouth and pant how much better their OS is. :D
[Nexus S General] brademcee:
Fed Up but glad others are in the same boat

I am glad that i came across your posts. I was about to throw the stupid phone out the window. I had to exchange my Nexus S today at Best Buy (still running 2.3). When i came out with my new phone, it prompted me to update to 2.3.1. I did the update and after I was done setting up my phone, I noticed that there are apps THAT I PAID FOR that are missing from the Market.

I am sorry, but whether this is a new phone, developer phone, I paid top dollar and I would expect that something as simple as ensuring that the apps that i PAID for our available seems pretty straightforward.

Until they straighten their stuff out, I am pulling my SIM and going back to MT4G.
[Nexus S General] rashad1:
Everyone calm down, they will show up in the coming days. The day that the Nexus S came out I couldn't find some apps, like NYT. But it showed up the next day or two.
[Nexus S General] Luxferro:
Not too sure why people are complaining here. You bought a google development phone so you get updates long before other phones get them. Along with that, come issue, bugs, ...time waiting for 'others' to catch up.

By 'others' I mean, the people, companies, ect who release their apps. Surely google doesn't micromanage what apps work for what versions of Android. Or which ones show up on the market depending on your Android build, phone, or cell phone provider. My guess would be that is all in the app developers hands.

Either wait, or go about getting them on your phone another way. After all, you bought a google development phone, a pre-requisite for owning one should be wanting to tinker around with it. As said, you could probably get them to show up if you edit your prop-build. This happens at every new android build release....
[Nexus S General] ogdobber:
confirmed...on 2.3.1 i lose slingplayer, thats a deal breaker for me. back to 2.3 for now;)
[Nexus S General] Luxferro:
You didn't lose it, just get the .apk and install it manually.

Titanium Backup is really handy to have. You'll always have backups to all your apps for occasions like this.
[Nexus S General] zeeklancer:
I come here to get info on what's going on in the nexus world and all I find is stupid people *****ing about things they know nothing about.

Just because you paid some money does not mean you can act like a ignorant fool and *****.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] slowz3r:
you sir, need to sit in the corner on time out, just chill, your now the one over reacting
[Nexus S General] ogdobber:
won't install manually... i refuse to use titanium (but that would probably work)

this thread is actually worthwhile. I agree that NS forum is flooded with useless questions that are asked over and over...but not here. go post your rant somewhere else
[Nexus S General] nxt:
Well you know what? Go ahead and update to 2.3.1 and you will have issues downloading apps from the Market, that was previously there. That's the point of this thread, and it's a valid one.

Yes you can go ahead and edit your build.prop, revert your rom, etc..etc.. but the FACT of the matter is, 2.3.1 DOES have Market issues.

I do have a right to ***** about this issue, because it's a simple issue for Google to fix and too stupid for them to overlook.

And for the other people saying "you bought a developer phone, you should expect issues and problems".. actually no, I don't expect that. It's sold to the general public through Best Buy at a retail location. I expect it to work properly. If suddenly tomorrow there's a 2.3.1 update and you can't make any phone calls, I can bet you all will be *****ing about it. And this Market issue is exactly the same.
[Nexus S General] clubtech:
I changed the fingerprint in the build.prop to show as it is the older 2.3.

I don't understand why Google is releasing an update before it allows it fully in the Market....

Attached is the build.prop i used.

It is from GRH78 only have the fingerprint of GRH55.

The ONLY line i changed in this build.prop is:

ro.build.fingerprint=google/soju/crespo:2.3/GRH55/79397:user/release-keys

The GRH78 fingerprint is:

ro.build.fingerprint=google/soju/crespo:2.3.1/GRH78/85442:user/release-keys

You cash push the attached build.prop into /system (make sure you keep the correct permissions), reboot the device and the market should be fine.

Once Google update the market you can change it back.
[Nexus S General] nxt:
Also if you change your build.prop down to 2.3 you'll get notifications on a 2.3.1 firmware update <facepalm>
[Nexus S General] ikon8:
Just change the fingerprint in your build.prop, download your apps, and change it back. Either that or wait for the app developers to update their apps, there's nothing wrong with the market.
[Nexus S General] ogdobber:
You can do the old gscript trick like in Froyo...easily switch back and forth
[Nexus S General] jimmypopulous:
OP is the same guy who says he has an apple device with gigs of pirated apps, so I take his complaint and put it in the appropriate context.
[Nexus S General] nxt:
Lol, in what context? In the context that I want to legitimately download my apps that I use and paid for that no longer show up in the market? Good point.
[Nexus S General] BiGMERF:
I agree this is something minor and should have been dealt with prior to release. We don't even have the new market
[Nexus S General] mannyb:
The Nexus S is not really a dev phone though. It's just a retail phone (it's sold via Best Buy, for frack sake) out of the Nexus lineup. The ADP1, 2 and Nexus One are dev phones.

Only ADP2 and Nexus One are currently listed on Google as dev phones.
[Nexus S General] SphericalPuma:
Actually when the Nexus One came out it wasn't considered a Dev Phone....it was only considered a Dev phone, shortly after they closed the web-store and sold them through the developer channel.
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
Thank you for that, you beat me to it, but exactly what I was going to post.

The only thing that makes this a "developer phone" is the fact that the bootloader is so easily unlocked.

The geeks who live and breathe their phone (like me) may think of this as a dev phone only, but it's clearly not. It's sold by the largest big-box store in the US to anyone who walks in the door and sees the big cool display for it. It's sold without any warning that it's some kind of "developer phone - subject to early and buggy releases of software". It's more like a phone for the masses that has the developer in mind.

That's interesting; I was always under the impression that Google determined if your device could see "protected apps", not the individual app developer. Do you have verifiable confirmation of your assertion that each app developer has to update the Market? That seems counter-intuitive, and a real hassle for the devs. It makes much more sense that Google would control it at the server end.

And the pot calls the kettle black... sheesh.
[Nexus S General] brademcee:
Ping. How long does it usually take before they fix this type of problem? I am missing a lot of Apps.
[Nexus S General] nxt:
No idea, isn't not a hard issue for them to fix.... but right now, I'm blaming it on the holidays and no Google employees are working right now.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Is there a reason why 2.3 doesn't have the new App Market? I know you can d/l it and install it yourself, but I'm just wondering.

My sister's Vibrant running 2.1 has it, oddly enough.
[Nexus S General] Luxferro:
Just cause the phone is sold to the mainstream, doesn't make it not a developer phone. And just cause you can own one, doesn't necessarily make you a developer. IMO, that fact that it's the phone that google uses to develop gingerbread on, and the one they release updates on, makes it what it is. Right now, it's the bleeding edge software wise for Android.

If you can't handle the cons that come with bleeding edge, then sit back and wait for things to mature before buying something. This pretty much applies to every consumer item that is new, and bleeding edge. Early adopters will have to deal with the initial problems as a product matures.
[Nexus S General] zorak950:
Maybe it's just me, but I don't miss it. I thought the new market was kind of ugly and bloated, especially the homepage.
[Nexus S General] jimmypopulous:
I hope that facepalm is for yourself.

XDA is full of whiny brats like you these days. Get a grip; send a complaint direct to Google if you have a legitimate gripe.
[Nexus S General] atlp99:
Just for the sake of understanding the issue, the problem is not on Google's end. The market only shows apps to compatible versions of the Android OS. The app developer; Not Google, needs to update the listed compatibility of their apps for the new OS version.
[Nexus S General] zorak950:
If that's true, there must be some way developers can list their apps for incremental updates automatically. Case in point, to specify either 2.3.0 or 2.3.x. Otherwise the market would have been practically empty on the day the update began pushing.

That leads me to believe that either the problem is, in fact, Google, or that the makers of the relatively small percentage of apps not available to 2.3.1 users were deliberate in not wanting their apps available on 2.3.1, presumably until they could thoroughly test them on that specific build.
[Nexus S General] clubtech:
No, that is not the issue.

The market on the latest update simply isn't showing protected apps. that's all.

Until Google finally get their act together and allow their latest 2.3.1 officially in the market - we will not see protected apps.

It has nothing to do with apps not compatible with this or other version of android.
[Nexus S General] Anderdroid:
God. Alright. I hate to say it like this, but if you don't know what you're talking about, PLEASE don't talk.

Do you have any idea why these apps are even not showing up? The app developer NEVER has to touch his app to get access onto a newer Android version.

Now if you actually have a developer account on market.android.com, you will also know that there is this little check box for your apps:

Now what does this do? Absolutely nothing positive. But it does do something. It prevents your app from being downloaded on new released firmware that haven't been added by GOOGLE to the database of acceptable firmware versions.

If you are on ANY phone and flash a leaked ROM, you will need something called a "Market fix" to have access to these apps. AKA editing the build.prop.

If you are a developer on the market, make sure you check "Off" for copy protection. The only thing it protects you from is potential sales / downloads.
[Nexus S General] jblade1000:
Thanks for that insight!

P.S. I just started perusing AndroLib.com (searching for other things) and remembered it gives you the status on each up you look up in the summary section, including whether or not it is copy protected. Sure enough, just like Anderdroid said, every single app that I'm missing is indeed copyright protected.
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
But the fact that it is sold to the masses without warning that it is potentially buggy, bleeding edge software, doesn't make it acceptable for Google to release the device with stupid oversights like this Market issue.

It's not very wise from a marketing standpoint either. Hypothetical here, but let's say my roommate, who likes neat high-tech phones, but has little understanding of them beyond how to turn it on and use it, and has no interest in reading forums like XDA, walks into Best Buy, sees this great shiny new phone and buys it, thinking it's a great replacement for his aging iPhone.

He takes it home, starts to play with it, and finds that a lot of apps he'd like to use because people recommend them aren't in the Market. He thinks to himself "oh, this phone sucks, maybe I won't keep it because I can't get the cool apps my friends talk about."

Then he starts noticing that his bars turn gray and he can't get certain services on his phone, even though he's got 5 bars and a 3G data or WiFi. He thinks to himself "tThis phone is really starting to suck, maybe what Steve Jobs said about Android is true...guess I'll go back to my iPhone."

Now there's a lost-forever customer, who also advices his friends that Android sucked for him. It's just not good for Android.

The phone may be intended as a reference phone for manufacturers, and as a phone that's easy to develop on for developers, but the minute you start selling it through normal retail channels to normal people, it is no longer okay to excuse away stupid mistakes with the mantra "it's a developer phone, expect it to be buggy." To do so is no better than the Apple fanboi apologists who excuse away every flaw with iOS as "it's part of the "experience".

Even for developers and power users, something as simple as forgetting to update the Market to recognize the new flagship phone SHOULD be inexcusable.
[Nexus S General] Memnoch30:
Very well said. I'm an android fan but the issues I'm having are making me want to return it and go back to my N1 or try out WP7.
[Nexus S General] clubtech:
So protected apps STILL don't show unless you change your build.prop fingerprint?
[Nexus S General] zorak950:
Not as of last time I checked. Fortunately in my case it's only a curiosity, since I haven't wanted to download any apps I couldn't access, but while it's understandable (at least to me) that Google dropped the ball here, it's unfortunate they haven't acted more quickly to pick it up.

On the other hand, maybe this will cause enough people to complain that Google will finally deprecate that stupid dev option once and for all. At least then something good would come of it. >.>
[Nexus S General] distortedloop:
So, maybe we should give the folks a centralized place to log complaints.

Call 866-813-2021 and complain

or go to this issue and STAR it on the google bug reporting site: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13514

Please keep any additional comments limited to further information to describe or clarify/reproduce the problem. Every comment is emailed to every one who has starred the issue, and it's not considered good form to add "me too" or "please fix this" type posts, it's kind of like useless spam.
[Nexus S General] jboehle:
Thanks, I starred that issue.
[Nexus S General] clubtech:
Me too.
[Nexus S General] jblade1000:
Yup. I just used mybackup pro to restore all my missing stuff. Really is ridiculous...
[Nexus S General] Smokexz:
I haven't even gotten the push for the new market.... I really liked the new UI, the old UI is just very bleh. It's sad that my Vibrant has SD card and proper support for the new market... still waiting for that.
[Nexus S General] ogdobber:
What is sad is your vibrant is still running eclair..

we had the same problems with the n1, I guess that's the price you pay to have the newest Google release...

Is it really that big of a deal to change the build prop??? How about adb the new market?

Or try searching (froyo gscript)
[Nexus S General] robstunner:
Starred. Thanks OP
[Nexus S General] ykphuah:
Starred! Thanks!
[Nexus S General] deyna:
Starred as well. Hope it's fixed soon.
[Nexus S General] zorak950:
As of this evening, I seem to be able to access all the apps that were previously inaccessible due to the 2.3.1 update. Can others confirm if this is fixed in all cases?
[Nexus S General] nxt:
CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!! Thank you Google for fixing.
[Nexus S General] sinatosk:
Confirmed here aswell!

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] Corvidd:
Apologies if this has already been answered, but I couldn't see it. Any information on why our NS's have the old market, and when they should be updated? I know there are apk's available to install the new market but, and don't hate me for this, I'd rather have the one google provides ota. Surely it is a minor task to push out the new market to our phones, our even, shock horror, have the newest version pre installed on a top of the range handset.

Came especially as a shock considering my antiquated and crippled vodafone htc magic had just been updated to 2.2.1 and had the new market, yet flashy new gingerbread was stepping back in time.
[Nexus S General] zorak950:
I hate the green theme and the huge featured apps carousel at the top of the new market. Also, I prefer the tabbed layout to the one-page new style. I for one am enjoying the old market while it lasts. :P

But to answer your question, I haven't heard from anyone who seems to definitively have this information. Compatibility testing drawn out by the holiday break, a problem with the Nexus S market updater engine, Android developer laziness; take your best guess. Anyway, there's probably a thread you can star on the official help forum if you care to, but other than that, I think you pretty much have to wait. Also, there is already at least one thread about this specific issue.
[Nexus S General] Corvidd:
You know, I kind of agree, the old layout makes more sense. I was very surprised when they decided to make app info one long page, loading comments that I didn't want to read just wasting data allowance. I liked the colours and other UI touches though. I've yet to see what the carousel looks like on a screen of this resolution, on my magic screen it was huge, but on a longer screen it might not be so bad. Could be reduced though.

I think I'm more annoyed at the principle of the situation, that such a huge company couldn't run a proper check over the device before providing it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alikhalesi:
hi

i cant play flv files which downloaded from youtube.tcpmp with flv plugin and coreplayer does not work. please help
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] russpattaya:
Yes they are probably flv H264 files.

I use Pavtube video converter to convert to standard flv, and then i can watch on TCPMP. There is free converters if you look via google etc
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alikhalesi:
thanks,but i dont want to convert this video,is there another way?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PINki92:
Use app caled "Getytv 1.3" You can choose in which file format you want to download video.;)

You can find it on omarket.

UPDATE: ah... app isn't working anymore due to youtube's site update... Who knows if the developer will update it to new version, which will work again:(