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[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
The Adreno 200 GPU as it is now (both from a hardware and software perspective) sucks. I don't ever expect it to perform as well as the newer stuff (it just doesn't have the specs) but there's still hope for better performance. It seems that the drivers were ultra buggy (from CM work on 2.3) and if you replace the Adreno 200 drivers with the newer Adreno 205 drivers, 2D performance increases by like 100% but unfortunately it completely breaks 3D rendering.

Maybe with the upcoming Google provided 2.3 Adreno 200 drivers (which I got to assume fixes those bug CM ran into) plus the core graphic performance in 2.3 we may see some new life in this GPU. At least I hope so.
[EVO 4G General] werxen:
Meanwhile Apple is kicking ass in the hardware department. I just don't friggin understand this... Is it so hard to make top tier phones with GOOD hardware? It seems like the only one is the Nexus S right now and its made by crappy Samsung and their cheap plastic. Not to be a fanboy for any side but when put into perspective if the iPhone was on Sprint I would switch today. Android really needs to get their act together and start making the user experience perfect.

I use my generation 1 ipod touch and it does not lag a single bit in anything but my Evo lags in everything it does. Really shows how much software needs to be optimized instead of releasing bullcrap versions of Android every 3 months.

I mean CMON is anyone else frustrated at this? We all pay a lot of money for a SMART phone but it seems like they come to us from the manufacturer as stupid phones and we have to make them smart by taking out all the stupid crap and optimizing it ourself. Why do we even pay for the phone? Should be free.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
rumor has it a really great superphone running webos 2.0 may come to sprint by june. myself im leaving for at&t or tmobile and going to try out a wp7 device.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I own a iPhone 4, and I'm not going to lie, it runs and performs perfectly but that's expected when you only have to optimize the software for a few devices. But it's not the best hardware available either. The SGS was released around the same time and had a GPU that was twice as fast, the cameras were just about as good and sometimes better. The Droid X at around that time had the same exact GPU, and now the newer HTC phones (Desire HD, Z, MT4G, G2) all have GPUs that are twice as fast as well. The CPU in the iPhone 4 was a 800 MHz Cortex A8, and every high end Android around that time had the same Cortex A8 but clocked at 1 GHz (and now more) so it was never the fastest; I also wouldn't be surprised if the Snapdragon chip design beats Apple's A4 head to head when both clocked at 1 GHz.

TBH, most of the blame for performance lies directly with Android. It's just not that fast performance wise. The iPhone 4 is down clocked CPU wise, has a "mid level high end" mobile GPU (PowerVR SGX 535), and runs at a higher resolutions but still runs circles around the Nexus S. Hell, for a even strong example look at WP7. It uses the same crap Adreno 200 as the first gen Snapdragon (what the EVO has) and runs waaaaaaaayyyyyy smoother.
[EVO 4G General] mykenyc:
Not really, like i stated above Android is well capable of running very smooth, e.g optimus s. I could really care less about having a powerful GPU, because Android doesn't use GPU operating system wise, for transitions like the iPhone etc. It uses it for games, and lets be honest, the games on Android is nothing to buy a "super-duper" phone for, i'm sure if Sprint makes an Evo 2 it will blow everything out the water, for now all you can do is wait for CES, and if nothing comes out of that, then complain. To be honest, you can blame sense for that, i would run Cyanogen but my camera don't work on it, but when i did load it, felt like my optimus phone, extra smooth. I'm glad i got the Evo now, because i'm sure something better is around the corner, will just sell this and buy that.
[EVO 4G General] werxen:
Dead on in the last part. Thats what I hate about these forums, everytime a flaw is brought up some nooblit comes around, "WELL GEE I DON'T HAVE THAT LOLOZL RUNS PERFECT ON MINE!"

No. No it does not run fine just on yours. The lag issues still have not been fixed and will not be fixed. The time it takes for you to touch the screen and for something to actually happen were glazed over with the FPS fix. Pinch to zoom, double tap etc all chop like crazy. Games don't run unless its basic puzzle games. Meh... they really said the Evo will be top of the line but when its put into perspective it really is just a mid level phone with a big screen. Like you said windows mobile has done leaps and bounds compared to Android as far as speed and usability. Like a lot of Google software lately, I feel like they make it just usable enough to the average person who does not even know what a CPU stands for. Chrome is buggy and renders pages weirdly, Chrome OS stinks big time and feels like a raped version of slackware... I don't know. Google has just been a big let down lately. I might also switch to ATT and check out the windows phones. Worst comes to worst I will snag myself an iPhone 5 and have a phone that just works.
[EVO 4G General] halorin:
The Evo is what you make of it. But pretty much every HTC phone in the past 5 years has been like that. I'd like to see better things on the horizon for Sprint, but with CM 6.1.1 and SavageKernel 1.2 CFS my phone has never run better or lasted longer. I don't have any lag anymore with my phone with this combination.

I'd love a better GPU, too, but I played the NOVA demo without any real lag, so I can't complain. Hopefully the same time next year we'll see an EVO 2. The only other phone I'd rather have right now is the Droid X for the GPU.
[EVO 4G General] werxen:
You phone DOES lag you just don't realize it because you haven't used a good phone. Go to your Apple store and do the same thing with an iPhone 4 and tell me your phone does not lag. Lulz... Its not ROMS or Kernals - do you even understand what they do? Its the OS. Its crap and combined with crappy hardware it exacerbates the situation. Please stop saying you "dont get lag". I have had my phone since launch and tried every combination of roms + kernals. They all lag. Some less than others, but no less than stock android.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I agree with you to a point but you're def' taking it too seriously. Nova does runs way smoother on the SGS/iPhone 4 (and probably the newer HTC's) -- 50+ FPS buttery smooth. On the EVO it runs okay (~30 FPS) but with now and again very noticeable drops in frame rate when a lot is happening. I think a lot of people (especially on Sprint) are coming from WinMo or older Android phones and so they compare those to the EVO and think: wow, that's smooth. At the same time, I'm overly critical because I play with A LOT of tech ALL THE TIME; so I see the difference and just think about how choppy it is. The truth is probably somewhere inbetween; and you, like me (but you definitely take it way further than me), see it as a laggy.

I like to participate in threads like this because the type of response that you mentioned always hits a nerve with me but I really don't see the point in starting them.
[EVO 4G General] ajd2416:
I can care less the type of phones sprint has,i just know I got the one I want. I dont buy a new phone if the one I have is doing above and beyond its job. Everyone on this thread is right by saying its about how you use your phone. Besides, thr plans from sprint trump every other service. Tiered data plans is for the birds!
[EVO 4G General] scooter185:
if you don't like it then leave. seriously so many people now a days just go "bawwwwwwwwww im leaving" and then just continue to complain. If you don't like it that's fine and your opinion but your starting to sound apple-fanboyish.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
T-Mo can be as cheap or cheaper, has "4G" like mobile speeds, is not tiered, and has a much wider selection of high end phones. Just saying.
[EVO 4G General] devnulldroid:
Personally, I think we have come along way since my first bag phone and things have been so much better since I ditched the etch e sketch (iphone) and AT&T.... yes my EVO rocks the kasbah......:)
[EVO 4G General] halorin:
Dude. You don't get to tell me if my phone lags or not. I've had a lot of time with an iphone 4 and I'm well aware of the Evo's bad gpu. Here's the bottom line. If you don't like the phone get another one. If you don't like Sprint get another carrier you'll be happy with.

I'm happy with the Evo and it's 2D/UI performance with the rom/kernel combination I've mentioned, and your complaining won't change that.
[EVO 4G General] Ritchie37:
Mine doesn't, hasn't nor do I think it will...Maybe the phone is too technical for you...
[EVO 4G General] bgchz:
Tmobile is more expensive.. just fyi.. i know because I called to switch and didn't.. i ended up buying an evo off craigslist for 300.. coming from a samsung moment and intercept.. this phone works.. and that's what it should come down to.. its not a computer
[EVO 4G General] mykenyc:
Yea there's lag, then there's extreme lag, and i see no lag to make me take this phone back, it works, that's what matters. And no i'm not no evo defender, like i said i came from an epic, and i didn't even like aspects about that phone, it's all on what works for you, simple as that.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Yeah Sprint might not have the strongest lineup, read; weakest sans us cellular, but 2 solid Android phones and 1 coming up. That we know of. Am sure something else is likely to pop up. At least 1 hot new device next year if not two. Not counting the Shift. I can't hate on Sprint we get deals and great service here and most places I've been when "traveling." Phone line up is tough, sure, but the way Sprint is stepping it up I wouldn't be surprised if they get serious.

SWYPED from my SUPASONIC
[EVO 4G General] azteksoldier:
hahahaha, man there's not such thing as perfect phone and perfect carrier is just what it works for you, more powerful phones will come out and people will complaint about the phone they got a month ago, if you want play games with no lags get a f**** psp, phones were made to communicate the world but now they give us more than that, maybe the people complaining about software and hardware can make their own phones and OS and appreciate what the got, instead of comparing phone capabilities...
[EVO 4G General] bjb_nyj101:
Obvious troll is obvious.

Answer your own question, OP? Why do you even pay for the phone? Surely no one is making you pay for it. The answer is simple: don't pay for it. Switch to AT&T and get the iPhone.

If you wanna complain and say that AT&T sucks or is too expensive, then buy a dumb phone on sprint.
[EVO 4G General] :
All the people bashing are fanboys and don't even know it. Stop defending the phone. It does lag but not enough for me to get another (just yet). I've tried many roms and kernels since owning this phone at launch. My BIGGEST gripe is web browsing on the EVO browser blows. Compare it to an iPhone and you'll see the difference.

I will most likely switch to another platform come time for upgrade.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
My Evo doesn't lag and I can play any game out there just fine. Why hasn't this asshole been banned yet? All he does is complaing.

I'll offer it to you again, i'll waive your ETF if you never come back to Sprint.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Here I'll start the list:

Nexus S: Declared the best Android phone by pretty much everyone and their mom.

My Touch 4G: HSPA+, FFC, a smaller/better CPU, a GPU that can blow the doors off the EVO's, a GPU, 768 MB of RAM, more Internal Storage. Pretty much better at everything.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Ehh im not sure the Nexus S blows anything out of the water.... the MyTouch4G can blow the Nexus S out of the water and the MyTouch is still not that impressive to me. Best phone in the world by consumer reports is Epic, and 2 is the Evo. Not everything that makes the phone "great" is purely software/hardware related, remember that.
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
OMG WHOA

CRAZY PHONES THAT JUST DESTROY THE EVO. [not really]

Guess what.

The next generation of Sprint phones are going to destroy those two phones AND they will be out sooner than the next generation of Tmobile phones.

I've played with both phones, the differences are minor.

You people gotta understand how this **** works, because you clearly don't.

Tmobile MIGHT be on top now but in a few months they won't be.

Get over it.

Move to Tmobile.

I don't care.

But this whining about the fact that the Evo can only benchmark at 1400 and the two Tmobile phones can benchmark at 2000 is silly.

Most users don't care.

Hell, most technical users don't even care.

Most people couldn't even tell the difference except for 3d gaming [which isn't very popular on Android anyway]

Was your holiday so horrible that you have to come on here and troll for fights constantly?
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Please enlighten me on what makes the EVO better than the MyTouch 4G or Nexus S. I can think of maybe 1 or 2 minor things but overwhelmingly those two phones are better.
[EVO 4G General] Righteous Joe:
Are you serious, The Iphone not supporting flash, and you think the web browsing is a better experience, Sprints 4g on compared to ATT's congested network and you think Iphones web browsing in better, the bigger screen and you think the web browsing is better, Talk about Fanboys, look in the mirror.
[EVO 4G General] :
I'm talking about the experience. You can scroll smoothly and the phone is so accurate when tapping on text when zoomimg. This has nothing to do with flash. I haven't taken advantage of flash in the evo so it really doesn't matter. You have to admit sometimes that Apple IS doing something right.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Only thing Apple is doing right is marketing.
[EVO 4G General] nabbed:
Your phone is obviously defective. You should probably have it replaced.
[EVO 4G General] wacky.banana:
We have had 7 reports on this thread in the last hour or so. The thread is being temporarily closed until we can investigate further what is going on.

If it turns out that individuals have been making malicious or unsubstantiated reports then we will deal with that also.

WB (XDA Moderating Team)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sport_billy:
Hello i have made an official update to android 1.6 from Rogers rom V10Q .

Everything runs smoothly but my problem is that i cant set root permissions or flash it to an other rom.

Because there is no Fastboot mode in this version and also at the hiden menu there is no "Enable Root Permission" option, so i cant flash it in any used methods.

I tryied becoming root with Z4Root and AndRoot but no success.

Does anyone know how to root and/or flash this version?

Thank you.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Zacpod:
You need to downgrade to an older firmware - one that still has Fastboot enabled. Once you've done that, I'd suggest using the OpenEtna firmware instead of the official firmware. OpenEtna is based on Cyanogen's Android 2.2, so it is much better than the official firmware.

Check the official OpenEtna site and forums for more info/help.

http://code.google.com/p/openetna/

http://forum.openetna.com/index.php
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sport_billy:
Thanks for your reply.

My problem was that i could not downgrade it to any previous version.

The Lg utils was crashing always and i think that it was because i was not root according to this thread lg-phones.org/how-to-flash-lg-eve-etna-gw620.html[/url] which steps i was following each previous time i had flashed from an official cab file with success.

I had also tryied some automated flashing utilities but none of them worked.

I have finally made it with the above way,but i had to shut down the phone and start the flashing procedure while it was still booting.

I dont know why but only this method worked.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mau_fdez:
I have the same problem, I couldn't make a nandroid backup before udate to V10Q, which is the official release from LG. The "root enable" in the hidden menu by dialing 3845#*620#. It's not there.

I have used link to make a nandroid but with no root there is no nandroid :(.

I tried to find V10F which is the original 1.5 rom, I suppose this rom has fastboot, but I don't know.

Regards,

Mauricio
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sport_billy:
I have succesfuly rooted V10Q with this tool http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=803682 but you have to replace the "su" file located in the downloaded folder with the one included in this link from system/bin folder http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6499147&postcount=1 (the "cd" version).

Just click root and averything works perfectly!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sad_but_cool1:
yaaaa

its work also for me bu same method

thanx man
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ghenton:
how do you get past the read only files system?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] thatsupnow:
ya right i dont believe you guys cause ive been trying the exact same thing and it does nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dealscell:
I just successfully rooted after doing the LG upgrade to 1.6.

You need to use the superoneclickv1.5.5 not the most recent version.

Then take the superuser.apk and su files as per the instructions from the previous poster making sure you get the donut.cupcake version and put them into the directory where you installed s1c replacing the files that were previously installed.

There is no need to go into the hidden menus and enable root access as it is default in the 1.6 firmware. (and no longer an option)
[Captivate General] dspsaab:
Here is a semi-fix. This trick will prevent your phone from shutting down but will decrease battery life somewhat.

1. Download "Load Monitor" from the Android Market.

2. Once installed, open the Load Monitor app.

3. Click on the Menu Button and Select Preferences.

4. Check the following Items:

* Add Notification

* Auto Start

* Wake Lock

* Only screen on

5. Go to "Update interval" and select 5 Minutes.

6. Although the Auto-start assures the app runs everytime you reboot your phone, if it ever shuts off, start the app manually; though you should haven't to do this step too many times.

Load Monitor keeps your phone from shutting down by preventing suspend via wake lock setting and by actively monitoring your load, the phone is always doing something. The main reason these phones shut-off is due to the processor going into suspended mode whenever it is not being used much and then it shuts off once it hasn't been used long enough. This trick worked for me, can't guarantee for everyone but a very good chance it will work.

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Thanks!
[Captivate General] sclRanger:
There's an app for that. Captivate Keep Alive. It's on the market.
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
Or call AT&T to get a replacement since there is already an internal memo about this issue and date range of phones affected.
[Captivate General] Jirv311:
The only thing that's concerning about this is that they are calling it a software issue and not a hardware issue. If you are already on a newer version then you technically shouldn't have the issue any longer. But even on 2.2 I was, so I have been using Load Monitor for a long time now. Besides, some are reporting their replacement phones are refurbs that still fall into the same IMEI range. :D
[Galaxy Tab General] Amneonx:
I am waiting on my Galaxy Tab to come in the mail but I have a question. After I bypass the activation screen, will I still get firmware and android updates? Since it wont be connected to a network.
[Galaxy Tab General] brilldoctor:
Yes via kies
[Galaxy Tab General] Amneonx:
Ok, I was afraid I would get lost in the twilight zone. I read on another forum that Kies was more for the European version of the galaxy tab. I may activate it anyways and pay month by month when ever I was the 3g.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnrbrown1968:
Hey All - designed my own boot animation. I've googled and searched other sites and forums, and can't seem to find an answer, or anyone else that has had this problem....

I've got it on my phone, timed properly and everything, but I'm seeing the horizontal refresh rate lines ...

got my desc file at 320x480 ( my images are 320x458 ) and my FPS = 20.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. :)

- JB
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnrbrown1968:
FYI:

It was image size ... since my images were 320x458, apparently, it attempts to stretch them. Once I redid my images to 320x480, refresh rate lines disappeared.

- JB
[Droid 2 General] badboy4life:
I'm fairly new to Android and have just rooted my Milestone 2.

If I reset to factory settings, will this remove root functionality (from what I have read I don't believe it will, but just want to confirm)?

(Assuming the answer to the above question in 'No it won't remove root') How would I go about unrooting my device? The method I used was to copy the files required to my M2 and then run the commands in terminal on the device, are the a set of commands to reverse this procedure?

What precautions should I take before doing anything else with my phone? I have read people recommending installing Koush's BootStrapper, does this effectively create a 'Last Known Good Configuration'?

Then finally what software should I load to get the best out my rooted M2? I was looking at installing AdFree, Titanium Backup and Root Explorer to start...

Thanks is advance to responses to my questions :)
[Droid 2 General] miketoasty:
First off rooting your phone is basically just installing programs to your root app folder that allows programs to use anything they want on your device.

Where root gets installed is a place that is not affected by restoring your phone so no restoring will not remove root. Im not sure if z4root works with the m2 (I don't see why not), but its a free app on the market that can remove root for you.

Koush will let you backup up the current state of your phone (apps and all) so if you get a bootloop you can restore it which should only come in handy if you are installing custom roms but is still handy just to have.

Finally some root apps I recomend are: ad free, titanium backup, root explorer, droid overclock (another that MAY work on the m2 not sure), cache cleaner, that should be it I will edit if I remember any others.
[Droid 2 General] mnx:
yes it works :)
[Droid 2 General] badboy4life:
Thanks, I've read about ClockworkMod, is this do something similar or is that just for custom ROMs?
[Droid 2 General] newk8600:
They are one in the same except koush's bootstrapped clockwork recovery is built to work with the D2/DX's locked bootloader.
[Droid 2 General] badboy4life:
If this was designed for the D2, would installing it on the M2 cause any major issues, I don't mind trying it, but is there a possibility that it could brick my device?
[Droid 2 General] newk8600:
there's always a possibility of a soft bricking or that it might not function correctly not being built specifically for the M2. I know there is an SBF for the Milstone 2 so I'd read up and have all of the files ready for the M2 before I would even attempt to do install the bootstrap. I mean there are no ROMs for the M2 as far as I know so it's not a big deal to try installing it right away but I know you want a backup so it's up to you to try but have the correct SBF ready in case something goes awry you can flash it and be back to stock. (always have your phone's charge pretty high when you start to flash stuff, nobody likes a phone dying during a flash process.)