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[Nexus One General] Award Tour:
Man, that new AT&T motorola phone is down right ridiculous.

- Tegra 2, dual core of course.

- 1 GB of RAM. Damn.

- 16 GB of internal storage PLUS an included 32 GB micro SD card.

- 4" 960x540 16:9 ratio display.

- HSPA+, don't sleep on AT&T's HSPA+ network.. it's bigger than T-Mo's just never advertised.

- Front facing cam.

- Fingerprint reader, interesting.

- 1900 mAh battery. Either it has crazy life or dual cores kill crazy life, probably the latter.

Load CM, MIUI, or eventually Honyecomb on this and damn. Hopefully Moto doesn't lock this phone down.
[Nexus One General] Mokurex:
^

Now that's what I called an upgrade.
[Nexus One General] ap3604:
LG Optimus 2x all the way for me :D

I've been looking for an android phone to display it's full screen contents on an TV via hdmi in order to play game emulators (NESoid, SNESoid, GBCoid, PSX4droid) with a wiimote.

Evo4g and DroidX have HDMI output but it only allows you to display the gallary app pictures/videos :(
[Nexus One General] Award Tour:
The Moto Atrix 4G has HDMI out. The EVO/X were probably limited by the GPU; with the LG O2X and Atrix both having Tegra 2's, it wouldn't be surprising that it's full HDMI out.
[Nexus One General] rori~:
At first sight, it does not seem to be the specs of a phone :D
[Nexus One General] mrxniick:
The only thing not true about the sepcs he posted are the included 32gb card. Other than that, it is all real, and all awesome
[Nexus One General] ap3604:
I hope you are right Award Tour :)

I've already seen the LG Optimus 2x on video doing the HDMI mirroring and playing emulators on a TV so the ball is in Motorola's hands now to have this on their Atrix as well ;)

The laptop dock is pretty awesome in my opinion but I wonder how long that gargantuan 1930mAh battery can power that 13 inch screen?

1 GB of ram? are you f***king kidding me? :eek:

Way to raise the bar Att! you have my business if the HDMI mirroring is on this :)
[Nexus One General] Lightning N1:
Since it seems this thread is aready hijacked, I just have one question

I see in the video for the Atrix, the car dock uses the micro usb.

Why don't we see more phones with the docking pins like the Nexus?
[Nexus One General] Award Tour:
Just to update you, the Atrix acts a net top box, allowing you to browse and even use Android apps on a monitor. I think it has a dedicated launcher/OS-ish app or something like that instead of straight mirroring. At least that's what I got from Engadget's live blog. This phone is turning out to be a monster.
[Nexus One General] draugaz:
This baffles me too. Somehow all the asian OEMS consistently demonstrate strong aversion against such art of connectors. Really difficult to understand. For example, nexus one has such pins, presumably on googles request. Its twin sister htc desire had the docking pins removed. Why? It can't be the money, those pins probably cost some fraction of penny.

And this is in devices which often require to be charged daily. This fiddly microUSB thingy is simply not up to the task, just look at all those htc evos with broken usb connectors.

It is not like the docking connector would be a new radical concept OEMS need to wrap their minds around. Heck, my HTC Alpine (~2004) has such a docking connector. Iphone has it. Motorola droid has it. Most of the >10 year old dumbphones have it.
[Nexus One General] draugaz:
Android is based on linux, so provided there is necessary hardware support it is not difficult to port some kind of (probably stripped down) X-server. And bob's your uncle.

There is a "Nexus One USB host driver" thread, it is actually something very similar.
[Nexus One General] ap3604:
Oh my :eek:

Thank you for the update AwardTour :)

Also, I looked on engadget as well and it looks like the laptop dock has a battery built in that charges the phone while you use it! :D

You got that right brotha! Pretty scary how good this phone is...

I always thought that I would stick with my $40/month Nexus One for at least 2-4 years but this thing is just too good not to upgrade even if it costs me $65/month instead :rolleyes:

Damn you Att / Motorola! ;)
[Nexus One General] TZAR@:
No trackball, no RGB led, no dual micromicrophone, no Micro SD slot, no HSPA +, no DLNA or HDMI out, no dual core. No 720p HD recording. Missing things the predecessor has as well as missing other current and just around the corner tech. So no Nexus S for me. I'm gonna wait to see what juicyness awaits after CES.
[Nexus One General] canadariot2312:
It seems like HTC is the only android manufacturer to put trackballs on the phone. To me, it seems like Samsung opted many key hardware components out just to mirror another company. I would not consider the Nexus S just because once the Nexus One gets Gingerbread (probably held up to increase Nexus S sales), the difference is really minor. Maybe by the end of the year we will see a decent successor to the Nexus One.
[Nexus One General] boesky:
sorry mate, i gotta disagree with you.. a friend of mine just got a optimus one (the p500) last month, and damn if i wasn't completely taken aback by its speed. the level of performance for a phone priced within the "budget" bracket, was refreshing. :eek: true, lg's ui looked sort of dated but.. slapped a gingerbread launcher of top of it, gingerbread keyboard (from modaco), and it was good to go!

wouldn't be amazed if this LG has some surprises in store as well :cool:

edit: the nexus S is totally not worth it. unless you relish in the fact that you've the "latest gadget". me, i'm just an rom junkie :D
[Nexus One General] rori~:
Agree :p

I am little bit speechless, LG, Astrix...HDMI out oh, oh..what a year 2011 :cool:
[Nexus One General] jimbob_me:
Any ideas when the optimus 2x will be available in the UK?

...Im ready to make a pre-order. Its looks epic!
[Nexus One General] rselva_kr:
http://www.expansys.com/lg-optimus-2x-207496/
[Nexus One General] tr.slate:
Electronista says 2x for tmobile in a "couple weeks." Food for thought...

http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/01/06/we.test.lgs.tegra.2.based.optimus.phones/
[Nexus One General] prettyboy85712:
The LG is tempting, but only if TeamDouche supports it with CM.
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
The LG Optimus 2x is sounding more & more like a legit upgrade from the N1! But, still waiting on more 1st Quarter device announcements...
[Nexus One General] rori~:
100% truth :cool:
[Nexus One General] -A-P-M-:
Currently I think LG Optimus 2x is the best choice.. Question is if developers will support it ? I will wait for MWC to see what will others offer. I hope HTC will show something new (dualcore...) and not only EVO with some mods.
[Nexus One General] tr.slate:
*off topic*

Thought Tmob's ces event was really lackluster. Tablets are good and fine, but where were all the new tmob phones?

Wonder if the atrix would run on tmob...
[Nexus One General] ap3604:
I believe the rumors have the LG Optimus 2x coming to T-mobile

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/21/lg-optimus-2x-coming-to-t-mobile-usa-by-march/

Also Mobile World Conference is coming in Feb 14th - 17th so there's always new opportunities to announce new phones throughout the year.

Att phones always run on T-mobile's Edge network... Atrix won't get 3g though.
[Nexus One General] subvecto:
Wouldn't consider NS or LG as N1 replacement yet but LG B running vanilla froyo or gingerbread could be tempting enough to ditch N1 as a daily phone and quick glancing and browsing device, though still rethink letting streak go, tried sammy tab but too big to carry around (unless I am carrying a bag but then I am actually carrying my notebook), heavy to hold for long and awkward for typing...
[Nexus One General] sl8125:
I love the new dual core. However I will wait couple of month after the release of the phones. I want to wait and see the development community. I love the MOTO atrix and LG optimus. I never owned a LG and I hear rooting MOTO phones are near impossible.
[Nexus One General] tr.slate:
Yeah, really hate that manufacturers make it that hard to gain root. We paid for them and should be able to void the warrenty however we wish.

Im waiting for one of them to stop suckling on the corp carrier teet so hard. But as they consistently prove time and again, its not about the end user, its about the money. Funk dat.
[Nexus One General] canadariot2312:
I would actually considered the LG B as an upgrade if you are want a better screen and a thinner device.
[Nexus One General] cCeT:
i was thinking of having an optimus 2x until i saw motorola atrix's specs.atrix has very good hardware but when i watch its videos on youtube i noticed that it was choppy.maybe due to it was a demo or something.besides according to i ve heard that motorola's software support is pretty bad.that makes me think about it again.and yes it has 1930mah battery but what about consuming? htc desire has 1250mah battery but goes on more than a desire which has 1500mah battery.

on the other hand i likely lg has 512mb ram. do you guys think of it is enough? it looks nice, thin and has good specs.motorola ugly choopy but powerful.

couldnt decided yet. :confused::confused:
[Nexus One General] -A-P-M-:
If Motorola Atrix can't be rooted, then it can stuck with Android 2.2 for a long time, if Motorola won't provide 2.3 upgrade (an later for honeycomb)... Everything else is great..
[Nexus One General] Piter1225:
Have same thoughts, but I won't buy Moto device, which has locked bootloader, although specs are great.

I guess I'll buy Optimus 2X as soon it will be out.
[Nexus One General] monkeyboy0076:
I had a chance to play with both devices this week at CES. I was significantly unimpressed with the Nexus S while the Optimus 2X blew me away. The Optimus would be my pick as long as you can get rid of the LG skin. Its not as annoying as TouchWiz or MotoBLUR, but still gets in the way of the perfect Android experience.
[Nexus One General] Piter1225:
If I get the Optimus 2X (I guess I'll buy it as soon as it will hit expansys/clove.co.uk ;) ), my main point will be preparing LG-free ROM, and in future AOSP/CM support
[Nexus One General] garfnodie:
Does CM even do ROM's for non-HTC devices? I have not really followed them outside of any N1 forums, and I never see anything on sites like Android Central about a CM ROM for anything other that phones like the Nexus' or the EVO, and other HTC phones. Or are the people who port them to other devices?
[Nexus One General] cCeT:
did you use the motorola atrix too? if so how was it?
[Nexus One General] Piter1225:
Yes, there are CM ROMs for Acer Liquid, Dell Streak, Samsung GalaxyS, etc.

Although the HTC devices have mostly the biggest support from Team Douche
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
Just saw this article Experience Great Display Features by LG Optimus Blackhttp://www.articlesbase.com/communi...lay-features-by-lg-optimus-black-4038455.html

"There has been a huge shift in the quality of LG phones lately and this is clearly demonstrated by the new LG Optimus Black. Along with the Optimus 2X it is the phone that LG are placing high hopes on and one can clearly see why. The experiment of launching a Windows Phone from LG did not work out that well, so the company has once again came back to the territory that it is well known for, Android. It is not any old Android phone because it is one of the most feature rich Android phones to come in recent years. It is also one of the most powerful.

The powerful aspect of the phone is thanks to the dual core processor that it employs and it shows off the Android 2.2 operating system in just the way that it should be. Also, the 4 inch touch screen display plays a huge role in it because it uses the NOVA technology, which many claim to be the next biggest thing mobile phone screen technologies. This offers 700 "nits" of brightness making it brighter than the two screens that are currently considered to be the best in the market, the Retina Display of the iPhone 4 and the Super AMOLED screen found on the Samsung Galaxy S. This also makes it more visible in direct sunlight and it even runs on 50% less power than standard LCD screens.

This capacitive screen is also comes with 16 million colours and a very high resolution of 480 x 800. It is also coupled with an accelerometer for auto rotation of the Optimus 2.0 user interface.

The dual core processor in this new phone from LG is rated at 1 GHz and the power difference between this and the single core processor is quite obvious. It literally walks past the single core processor. Dual core Tegra 2 processors look set to become the standard for smartphones in 2011 and it is even a basic requirement for the upcoming Honeycomb version of Google Android.

The Optimus Black is also the first smartphone to feature a 2 megapixel front facing camera for video calling. While the megapixel count and quality of main rear facing cameras is steadily increasing in the phone market, with even low priced handsets featuring 5 megapixel cameras, front facing cameras have tended to be put on the backburner with 1 megapixel and VGA video being about the best you can hope for. This means that your friends can see you in the best possible manner when you are video chatting with them.

Some of the other features of the phone include all kinds of connectivity features that range from microUSB to Wi-Fi Direct and this means that you are never far from connecting to the PC or your audio systems in one way or the other. The phone's pricing and launch date are yet to be confirmed by the company."
[Nexus One General] Pommes_Schranke:
Does the black really have a Tegra2 dual core cpu?

I thought it was only a TI OMAP 3630 and only the 2x has a tegra2.
[Nexus One General] :
BREAKING NEWS!

Companies like money!

More at eleven!
[Nexus One General] marung:
I also can't decide which one I should take.

I have already pre-ordered the LG at Amazon.de (i'm from austria) for 499€ :-D

Do you think there will be CyanogenMods for the LG an a big community?

These are my only two worries...
[Nexus One General] kolyan:
The phone is not even out yet and you are asking about CM ? There is no functional CM for Galaxy S line released like 7 month ago....

ps. Nexus S sucks big time. What a big disappointed.
[Nexus One General] irishrally:
PS: You don't know what you are talking about. Trying using one before passing judged. No, it's not a typo.
[Nexus One General] kolyan:
Using what.......I have Nexus One, I have Vibrant with Nero V4.1, and I had Nexus S for one week. NS is junk compared to Vibrant with Nero.....It only looks a bit better and has flash that I would like...... everything else goes down hill from there...
[Nexus One General] irishrally:
My apologies. I thought you were one of the many saying the NS is crap without ever using it. It's unfortunate your experience with the NS was not good.

Would I be correct in deducing that you like your Vibrant with Nero way more than your N1 also? Or more specifically, that your N1 is "junk compared to [the] Vibrant with Nero"?
[Nexus One General] kolyan:
N1 is different. Built quality is there, feels solid in hand, multicolor trackball, noise cancelling, led notification light, flash...very well though out device. Unfortunately, AMOLED touchscreen and speaker phone make it hard not to upgrade to 4'' SAMOLED and speaker-phone found on Galaxy S line (including NS of course). I almost switched back to N1, but thanks to Nero ROM, finally Vibrant became a very usable device.

I mean if someone would offer me NS for $50-100 bucks, I would think about it, but for almost $600 its a rip off. From N1 to NS, the upgrade might sound better then from Vibrant to NS, but I still would understand people that would prefer N1......design is just amazing

EDIT: just wanna add, back in N1 days, I would take N1 vs iPhone any day, but things are different now, iPhone4 kills NS easy....just too bad there is no LTE on Verizon version, otherwise I would dump my Vibrant for that.
[Nexus One General] garfnodie:
Was Nero on the Vibrant anything at all like CM for the N1 was? What I mean by that is did it add as much awesomeness to the phone as CM added to the N1?
[Nexus One General] kolyan:
I dont know what u mean. I am using The Official ROM. Nero just makes phone fast and it looks like Gingerbread, also features 4 different lock screens, power menu, better battery, bug fixes, latest samsung leaked firmware, wifi calling, android genie widget, etc. Touchwiz already includes some killer features over stock Android.

In the beginning devs ported cm apps like sms and email....but later everyone agred that Touchwiz apps are better.
[Nexus One General] irishrally:
... agree to disagree
[Nexus One General] w1nter456:
I found this and this is very useful for me,this website already 50 thread and above which make me impressive.But I do hope xda can make a Optimus 2x thread for us : )

http://www.optimus2x.net/index.php/topic,49.0.html

The thread was talk about nexus s vs optimus 2x,but the Optimus 2x can even score 2700+ : )
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
Looks like the Optimus 2x (LG G2X) will be coming to Tmobile Usa. Now that might be a great upgrade! cool

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/03/t-mobile-will-receive-the-lg-g2x-also-known-as-the-optimus-2x/
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cCeT:
i'd like to ask to developers or anyone who can figure this out.on desire hd sense rom there is an option to do this.but even if i've searched on the internet i couldnt find a proper way to make this connection on any non-sense rom.is it hard to pull this connection codes or what else and add to the custom roms?
[EVO 4G General] werxen:
Okay... the phone lineup for Sprint has been getting really ridiculous. Tmobile has been getting amazing phones. Verizon has been getting amazing phones. ATT has been getting amazing phones.

Sprint? Another friggin Evo with a hardware keyboard? COME. ON.

I think I'm bailing soon. The Evo was cool at first but has already showed its 2008 age hardware to be slowing down. I cant stand the lag on a 2010 phone. The GPU sucks making all future gpu acceleration useless and games run like ballsack on it already. The screen is nice but does not makeup for its flaws. The camera is sticking out like a giant ass that can't be blocked.

*sigh*

Sprint just needs more phones to choose from....
[EVO 4G General] Jbcarrera:
wait for ces they should have more phones coming right after that
[EVO 4G General] eniamg02:
Hmm...if I was that unhappy,i sure wouldn't still be with sprint/evo..
[EVO 4G General] Jbcarrera:
and what phone out there besides what t-mo has is better the droid x is the same way as the evo camera sticks out the back
[EVO 4G General] drummer2780:
Stop Complaning!!

Well get the hell out of sprint then.. what the hell are you still doing in sprint? evo is frkn awesome.. mine doesnt lagg.. its the way u take care of it.. mine is full of apps all over.. and it still doesnt lag! learn how to us ur phone first
[EVO 4G General] werxen:
Oh right I forgot everyone elses phones lag even the ones at Sprint store even the ones one youtube videos EXCEPT yours. Good to know. Also I like your post count, cutie.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
have to admit t-mobile has been banging out the sweet phones !

werxen = sprint whiner
[EVO 4G General] drummer2780:
Cutie.. thanks.. u sound gay! lol.. its true.. and u still complaning just quit sprint already then.. damn!
[EVO 4G General] mitchellvii:
I like sprint and I like my evo. 2008 tech? Did they have 1 ghz snapdragons in 2008?

Mitchell's EVO
[EVO 4G General] blakeboys:
My evo doesn't lag and I get superb battery life. I also have people always getting all googly eyed over it. I also believe gingerbread will really amp up the evo even more and should solve all your lag problems that may exist.
[EVO 4G General] blakeboys:
Huh? Now that I think about it... nope!
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
i likes my phone
[EVO 4G General] mykenyc:
Believe me sir, every phone out right now have a flaw in it. I went from N1, to blackberry (bbm reasons), epic 4g, optimus one, and now the evo. And i can make this assertion "your phone is what you make of it". I treat my phone like my desktop computer, install only what i use, constantly clearing cache every two weeks etc. Now unfortunately for me i have the newer hardware so i cannot take advantage of the custom kernel, but my phone is buttery smooth. I use titanium back-up to remove all the unwanted files, installed Go Launcher (love this launcher) and Go SMS. The only thing i can say is, LG got it right, my Lg optimus seriously never drops below 175mb ram no matter what i throw at it, i'm assuming this is why it's so smooth also. I think it's more software side than hardware, i'm sure when Gingerbread comes out and all hardware supported, plus stable, you won't be hating your evo so much.
[EVO 4G General] patelkedar91:
Let me get this out there.

The Evo has some old hardware and some new.

The phone SUCKS if you don't root it and put some good ROMs on it.

I'm on Myn's and the phone is fast enough for me. It has also become really sexy cause Myn's dark theme is the best I've seen on a phone. Hero's Baked Kernel 6 is giving me crazy battery life as well.

The things I don't like....

- Screen Quality : Man this thing looks like crap compared to Galaxy S or Droid X... 16-bit and colors aren't strong.

- Camera Quality : Yeah we have an 8mp camera, but HTC's crappy software makes it worse than it really is. Some 5mp shooters do better. Luckily custom Roms can fix this.

- GPU : Pissed me off when I realized the Snapdragon Processor comes with 2008-like GPU. Adreno 200 is capable of quite a bit, but again, HTC doesn't release the drivers for anything. The GPU can be coded for and if games are optimized enough, it'll run well. But developers don't care. Luckily, Gingerbread increases graphical performance by quite a bit.

And that's about it right now.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
The Optimus One line is actually pretty impressive for a sometimes free low end phone. It has the same amount of RAM as the EVO and the same GPU as the EVO but runs at almost half the resolution. This results to some pretty impressive performance. Stuff like the 3D gallery app and 3D maps in Google Maps runs much smoother than on the EVO. The only thing holding it back is the CPU (600 MHz ARMv6 vs. 1 GHz A8) but even then the design of the chip is not that different than that of the Snapdragon (Modem/FPU co-processor).

The EVO for the most part is pretty good, and probably still one of the best featured phones out even 6 months later. Nothing on it really stands out as best in it's class but it's okay, the only issue is the GPU - it sucks. You can't run LWs and still be at 55 FPS (most of the time it drops to under 30), some games run pretty awful, and some apps don't run as smooth. Everything runs but when you have a newer phone right next to it you can really feel the difference. And the benchmarks speak for themselves, the SGS/NS is 4x better and the Droids are 2x better. That's just the way it is.

The new EVO Shift is not just another EVO though. It's a Desire Z with WiMax and a EVO looking front. It still has the newer 45nm 800 MHz Qualcomm CPU that beats out the EVO by a little and the newer Adreno 205 GPU that is about 3-4x better. It's a ugly looking phone and a little late but performance wise it's still on par with any phone released today.
[EVO 4G General] patelkedar91:
@ Award Tour : Yep... Droid 1/ Droid 2/ Droid X (and the new droids like Droid Pro) all do 2x better than the Evo. That is enough. It doesn't even need to outdo the Galaxy S phones because it really doesn't matter at that point. All other games run fine mostly because those games are coded for Iphone first generally, with similar GPU.

And Evo Shift has better GPU so it's an okay upgrade cause that's the only thing I really care about.

Cause really, everything else is software. And custom Roms do the job.

And I like HTC phones because they upgrade fairly quickly compared to other companies and release decent phones with GREAT development backing.

But then again I also hate them because they latch onto old hardware sometimes (Qualcomm... thanks) and don't optimize their current software sometimes.