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[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
I don't think it would matter, truthfully. If the computer doesn't recognize the phone to begin with, putting the phone into download mode won't have any effect.
[Epic 4G General] S0ckM0nk3y:
Different usb cable maybe? If sasha101 can get into download mode the phone isn't bricked and there is at least still hope. Maybe re downloading odin and other files as well. Just a thought.
[Epic 4G General] Isira:
I usually have to rotate between the different pits (512, 513, 528, and no pit) before I can get it to succesfully flash, so this is something you can try.
[Epic 4G General] ghmacdonald:
I would definitly try a different cable. I wasn't able to use odin to load 2.1 and in fact I bricked (I think). Tried 2 different cables and tried someone else's pc. NO go. Went back to the best set of directions I had found, redownloaded all the software needed, borrowed my wife's cable and started over. Everything worked like I was told it should. I really believe I had cables. Will try to find a new good one for the next time I try Odin.

Good luck and Marry Christmas.

George MacDonald
[Epic 4G General] S0ckM0nk3y:
Randyshear on youtube explains this process flawlessly very informative
[Epic 4G General] XtaC318:
Umm.. if its not recognizing your phone you either didn't download the drivers; or they didn't install right. So.. (re)install them..

If this doesn't work its your cable; you'll need a new one.

Also; android isn't bricked until you can't get into download mode anymore.

Just because it doesn't boot doesn't mean its not bricked.
[Off-topic] Deleted member 2758866:
My life would be way more awesome if...

sandwiches made themselves.
[Off-topic] AdrianK:
My life would be way more awesome if...

More relevant to now: My life would be way more awesome if all family gatherings weren't condensed in to two months of the year.
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
My life would be way more awesome it I could fly.... Unicorns were real and if I could see through clothes :rolleyes: :p :D
[Off-topic] AdrianK:
You might want some immense peripheral vision with that, would save you getting slapped a lot :P
[Off-topic] Tribulattifather:
My life would be way more awesome if I could of had been born with the ability to be invisible whenever I needed to be..
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
+1 :p Add that to my list ;D
[Off-topic] avgjoegeek:
if I sold my soul to the debil and could play the blues like mo other....
[Off-topic] husam666:
My life would be way more awesome if i am a part of the Russian mafia
[Off-topic] galaxys:
My life could be way more awesome if I could fly :D::cool:;)
[Off-topic] jaszek:
All of you wish you can fly, screw that.

My life would be more awesome if I could teleport.
[Off-topic] user7618:
+1

Just think of the gas money saved, and not getting molested by the TSA.

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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
[Off-topic] orb3000:
My life would be way more awesome if: She loves hTC and XDA as I do...
[Off-topic] Alex530:
My life would be way more awesome if I got something other than a lame shirt every christmas.
[Off-topic] Deleted member 2758866:
My life would be way more awesome if...

I were as cool as these guys.
[Off-topic] husam666:
My life would be way more awesome if I had a gf that suck
[Off-topic] Alex530:
By gf I hope you mean grape fruit
[Off-topic] AdrianK:
Oh my... o.O
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
:eek::eek::eek::eek:

I was watching top gear earlier and they went through Jordan :eek::D
[Off-topic] T.C.P:
wow, my life would be awesome if i could get the balls to talk to a girl :mad:
[Off-topic] husam666:
what season and episode? :D

+1:(:mad:
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
Xmas special :p It was on earlier today :D
[Off-topic] flyboyovyick:
....if htc give you a free phone upgrade every year!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] AsherChua:
Hi guys, I'm gonna get a Motorola Milestone soon.And the main reason is because of the physical keyboard.However I'm still confused about whether to get this or the Nexus one.I know that the Milestone can be overclocked and the speed likewise,I'm not too worried about it.But,can I run things like Cyanogenmod 6.1 on it maybe,cos I would rather use a custom rom than wait for updates.Please answer me.Lastly,is the screen smooth like the amoled display on the Nexus One?Please help! Thanks!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] cry3200:
Yes when overclocked to to 1GHz the Milestone is equal in CPU power to the Nexus One, and the GPU in the Milestone is faster then the Andreno 205 in the Nexus One, regarding the screen yes the Milestone has a much better screen than the Nexus One , regarding color acuracy and things like that, the Milestone uses a IPS panel that is regarded as one if the best screens in mobile industry, the only thing that the AMOLED in the N1 is better at is power consumption and even that not that big difference, so the Milestone wins, but the downside is the locked bootloader that really is a deal breaker, but if you can live with that the Milestone is better, and one more thing, is the oficial updates, the Nexus One is going to recive them for a couple of months or better, but the Milestone is EOL....
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] AsherChua:
What?So that means I can't use custom roms on the Milestone?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] faugusztin:
It's beyond my comprehension how can anyone recommend Motorola Milestone over anything.

First we got the locked bootloader and yes, that means no custom ROMs for newer versions than Motorola provides. Because Motorola will provide only Froyo somewhere next few months, you can forget Gingerbread on Motorola Milestone.

Then there is the memory issue, Motorola Milestone has 256MB RAM compared to 512MB of Nexus One or other newer devices. This is a huge difference.

In short - if you want a good Android phone with keyboard, get HTC Desire Z. If you want a good keyboardless phone, get Desire HD, Samsung Galaxy S, HTC Desire or Nexus One (or Motorola Milestone 2). Motorola Milestone is a option only if you want to save lot of cash and you don't care for the limitations.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] AsherChua:
Yup thanks for the advice.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] yeahman45:
i am confused about custom rom?? what the roms available in the "Motorola Milestone Android Development" section of the forum? aren't they custom roms? planning to get a milestone too as it less expensive and i want a flash enabled phone..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] AsherChua:
Basically if the bootlocker is locked, you can't install a custom rom like cyanogenmod using rom manager.But must use other ways which is really difficult for me.The motorola milestone will be getting froyo aka android 2.2 so flash player will be available for download in the android market.So flash will still eventually be available for the Motorola milestone.But I doubt it will be getting android 2.3 so if you wanna get it,you may have to install a custom Tom which I say will be difficult for beginners like me but can be learnt:) However,the milestone is pretty old already.Why not get a milestone 2 or a Desire 2?Both have physical QWERTY keypad and android 2.2,that means flash is available.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] yeahman45:
way too expensive... i am going to buy an unlocked phone to use in my country.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] AsherChua:
Well, if you don care about custom roms, why not just get the motorola milestone and wait for froyo or maybe froyo is already available in your country:) It will be a pretty good buy! Root the motorola	milestone and overclock it and you will feel your phone is really new!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] add119:
Get a milestone if you want. Desire z has Sense ui and Europe has a bad rep on updating Sense Ui phone, take a while to update, even longer then Moto at times. Motorola is already thinking of support the original Droid with 2.3 os in Late Q1 2011. Maybe, that should give you milestone users; some hope on getting Gingerbread official or Rooted roms. If storage is the problem Do Sd partitioning to swap the apps on your sd..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] add119:
Only if you were in america my droid has flash player, trust me is good but not great. Same goes with g2 aka htc desire Z have flash doesnt run excellent either. Droid/milestone is better then Desire Z. If you buy Desire Z u going to be spending more money on device; that has similar if not less feature then droid/milestone rooted.

Single LED FLASH= For picture in dark

Dual= 2 LED FLASH= On Milestone

Milestone has less ram with 256 ram, but with sd partioning that can be solved.

Desire Z have an 512 ram.

Milestone has D pad for gaming and better navigation without the touching the screen.

Desire Z has those loose hinges that can be a problem to several users.

Milestone has better GPU= graphic processor with Power vr CHip SHG 530 so does the Galaxy phones and iphones has them 540 and 535.

Desire z has adreno 205 which is limited.

Milestone have better resolution with 854x480 over

Desire Z that have 800x480 .

Milestone might not have the ram, but in everything else it beats Desire Z.

Milestone 512 rom internal memory, but allow user to use 256 Mb

Desire Z has 1.2 gb internal memory.

Overall I say go with Milestone if you are hacker.

Off topic info-In my opinion since the droid 1/Milestone came out a lot of phone are copying the layout of this phone . Look droid incredible,iphone4 and G2/Desire Z. They look like the original Droid.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] ToTTenTranz:
The Milestone uses a 100MHz SG530.

The Adreno 205 in Desire Z is a lot faster than the Adreno 200 in the previous Snapdragons. Its performance is on par with the 200MHz SGX530 from Droid 2 or Droid X.

The Hummingbird in Galaxy S uses a SGX540 (blows everything away and sides with Tegra2), and both the 3GS and iPhone 4 use a SGX535 @ 150MHz (better performance/clock than SGX530, equivalent to SGX530 @ 200MHz in most cases).

The Desire Z is a better device all-round, no doubt about that. But it's also a lot more expensive.

And with all the dual-core high-end phones coming out in a couple of months, right now it's a really bad time to be spending a lot of money in high-end phones like the Desire Z.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] applebook:
If you're going to throw the Desire Z around, I would much rather have the Droid 2 Global. Its superiority over all phones makes up for the locked bootloader (IMO). It depends on your needs and standards. I place the touchscreen, overall display quality, and build quality above all else. In these departments, neither Nexus S (definitely not the N1) nor the Desire Z is in the same league as the Droid 2 Global.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] osugsxr:
milestone help...

Currently I'm not under contract with any carriers, was using my nexus one on local carrier and traded that for an iphone 4. Sold that and currently using a samsung vibrant which only cost $160. I can get a milestone for free with a 2 year contract, but I ll probably just the vibrant mainly. Would the milestone be a good backup android device? It seems out dated to me already, should I just stick with a blackberry bold (even more outdated)????
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] applebook:
You should just keep your Vibrant, IMO.

I wouldn't sign a 2-year term just for the Milestone.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] add119:
All I can say dump vibrant. Samsung take to long updating. It took them 9 month to update to android 2.2 os on vibrant from july 15 release until january 14th 2011 in tmobile usa. Sprint release their samsung galaxy(epic) came out in early august still stuck 2.1 os.

Samsung galaxy(captivate) 2.1 os came out late august no update yet.

Samsung galaxy(fascinate) 2.1 os in late september...

List go on

Droid 1 is getting 2.3 os in march . Giving chance to milestone user in getting gingerbread.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] cmstlist:
Umm...

Updates to the Droid are not useful in giving hope to Milestone users. We did not get stable 2.2 ROMs until Motorola leaked a 2.2 firmware. Locked bootloader means we can never replace the kernel until Moto releases a signed version.

HTC Sense UI has been *the most* up-to-date custom UI overlay out of all the manufacturers. Once an official Froyo ROM was released for the HTC Desire anywhere in the world (June/July 2010), the RUU was compatible with all GSM/HSPA Desire phones worldwide. The Droid 1 OTA did not arrive till August and it was a USA-CDMA exclusive that was relatively useless in providing options to non-US Moto users.

"Even longer than Moto at times"... can you provide me an example where HTC users had to wait longer in Europe for a working official-sourced Android update compared to a similar-generation Moto phone?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] xenosapien213:
In Europe, as far as I can tell, every HTC phone that was about to get an update, got it long before the European Moto phones got theirs.

For example: HTC Desire got FroYo late summer/early autumn 2010 (forgot exact date).

Moto Milestone -> will get official FroYo sometime the next two-four weeks (Q1 2011!!). Inofficial "leaked" FroYo only appeared like a week ago (Asia-Pacific version, not even the one for Europe, but works just fine).

Do NOT(!) pick Milestone if you want to be able to do anything you want with your phone.

Get it if you can wait 2-3 more weeks for FroYo, and if you are willing to more or less use it "out-of-the-box". (maybe rooting and a bit of tweaking/overclocking/themes, but no REAL "Roms" possible).
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] haroldz123:
get that droid x ME181 china-only market

or wait for dual core phone:cool:
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] add119:
That not true only a few location hasnt update their phones... A few european country already has updated the milestone 2.2 os since late december. Example Spain has 2.2 os already on their phone.

Htc desire got it update in July 31 the first full month of summer.

Motorola milestone aka Droid in usa got 2.2 os since August 3rd. If you hacker u can update milestone 2.2 os because droid users coded the update to milestone users already. Search up Droidforum.net That mean if droid get 2.3 os officially u milestone users can get it by us coding it for ya.

Not wait for htc to update the device.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Caz666:
Really? Which carriers? It was understanding that we only had milestone leaks? Which other countries got an official update for yhe milestone. I wont contradict you about spain...possible i missed this. But canada, most of europe, asia and south america are still waiting.

So besides spain (somebody please confirm this?), which countries already got an official foryo update for milestone?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] cmstlist:
Um, no. The Droid update was not useful to Milestone users. I should know, I have one. Every Froyo Milestone ROM that came out before the leaked G.O.T. ROM (October 2010) was unstable and full of missing features because it still had to run on a 2.1 kernel.

And even if the Droid update were useful to Milestone users, you're still making no sense. You are telling us it's better to hack a late update onto a Milestone than to get an earlier official HTC update? Even the data you are presenting to us is not doing a good job of furthering your apparent opinion that a Milestone is preferable to an HTC device in terms of OS updates.

*Proviso: There is a CDMA phone called "Milestone" sold by USA regional carriers which does have an unlocked bootloader as it's basically a re-labeled Droid. This has no relation to the GSM Milestone we are talking about here that does have a locked bootloader.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] add119:
Bro droid phone can be unlock to it a ship that block the sim card from being enter. My friend have his droid took off the chip that block it. He a phone techinical and fix broken devices.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] add119:
Bro u buy an htc device know that their gpu isn't powerful compare to droid line or galaxy phones.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] add119:
http://www.gadgetxtreme.com/motorola-milestone-finally-get-android-2-2-froyo-update/
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] cmstlist:
Again, all this proves is that Motorola was 6 months late to the game...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] arttree:
see moto official firmware update schedule list you will be shock of your life, supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades

most of their device will be stuck forever at android 1.5 or 1.6.

choose wisely when you buy a smartphone... m2cents
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] add119:
@art that's if u buy motoblur phones. Not droid line phones.. droid 1,2 and x. Will get upgrade 2.3 os in march. And blur device did get 2.1 os if u read correctly cliq and backflip has update 2.1 os. Milestone receive it 2.1 os and will get 2.2 os soon, by Q2 2011 I bet all milestones user will cry about 2.3 os. Ask to motorola why droid phone first? Remember droid came out first in november 2009. Milestone in late January 2010. That why u guys get the update late and carrier due to testing also that delay the update futher on milestone.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] add119:
Cm u can say the same about htc with wildfire it took them 5 month to update that phone. A phone that cameout in sept 2010 with 2.1 os? Are u serious that should of ship with froyo not ecliar? Ok then
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] arttree:
for SURE up-to-date android phone, my advice is go get Google support phone, like Nexus1 & Nexus S.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] add119:
@art nexus one will stop at android 2.3 os.. droid 1 will be in same boat. Plus the droid 1 have better specs then your nexus one. With a simple hack I can get the same speed on my phone it will be faster then your nexus one clock at 1ghz. Google nexus one only thing that make like that phone is the voice cancelation.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] arttree:
They are just reporting on leak press release that never come to OFFICIAL from motorola eupore even today...

where do you find the news said all the droid/milestone will be update to 2.3 this coming March :confused: i want to have a look, cause that will make my day cause i owned a milestone that still stuck at 2.1:rolleyes:
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] arttree:
i agreed with you, MOTO phones are superb in hardware no one beat them today HTC Samsung LG Acer or any other you can named... but if only their software support can be MUCH better. go to their Moto europe's facebook you will see how ALL sad/angry/frustrated post there. Yes, I mean "ALL" if not 99 out of 100. It's so sad, isn't it? :(
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] add119:
I don't know about acer is good at making device. Lg sucks and so does samsung.. if samsung wasn't so slow on updating and making durable device. I would jump for them. But that not the case. And htc make good hardware but sucky gpu on their devices.. hacking the phone to put different roms cripple your device. I like staying with stock google roms. If moto wasn't so selected with droid line they would have more users by their side.

Don't get me wrong I love htc more then moto. I just like motorola option in gpu processor.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] cmstlist:
Stop lumping the Droid and Milestone together. Moto is clearly treating them differently, and the Milestone is effectively *not* part of the Droid line. The Milestone has so far lagged behind the Droid on updates by at least 6 months, and it's impossible to port Droid upgrades to the GSM/HSPA Milestone with any degree of stability.

As for the GPU, even with overclocking, my Milestone has *never* done anything as smoothly as my Nexus One.

I'm just going to unsubscribe from this thread now... I've had enough of this troll.

If you love your Moto so much, maybe you should purchase my Telus Milestone. I'll give you a special fanboy surcharge :P
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] add119:
Cm you might be only users that has that issue. Me and some co workers have our phones root 1ghz it runs smoother then nexus. Next time u speak I did polls on droidforum if nexus one is better then rooted droid? And a lot users that have both said droid. Now if your phone having issue is not my fault.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Caz666:
Wtf? He doesnt agree so he is wrong? I have also had both (not at the same time) and prefer the mot phones...but for the keyboard and screen. I would call the speed a close call when overclocking the milestone.

But please be open to other points of view...otherwise it make you look like a troll (or Mot employee)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] cmstlist:
Alright, my *last* comment... I must be crazy to come back to this.

A Droid is not a Milestone. The Droid is far better than the Milestone if you live in a country where the CDMA carriers have better coverage (your country, USA, and pretty much nowhere else anymore). The bootloader is unlocked, so you can do whatever the hell you want with it. And it's useless where I live.

The GSM/HSPA Milestone is much more severely limited. Do you own one? Have you tried modding one? Have you ever been able to get a custom GSM/HSPA Milestone ROM working 100% as well as the equivalent custom Droid ROM? Since this phone is not sold in the USA, my guess is no.

Can you acknowledge there is a difference?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] The Solutor:
You not mentioned HSDPA

10MBps on MS/MS2, 14MBps on DZ

Audio quality and reception, both waaay better on motorola side

Locked BL means also that MS is almost impossible to brick, DZ is very easy to brick.

Build quality: MS is a great phone but with a toy keyboard, DZ hs a great KB with a toy housing.

Apect ratio of the screen MS= 16/9 DZ=5/3 (aka 15/9)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mohitrocks:
Asher, Nexus one would be better just because of it having double the ram of motorola milestone. BUT, if I were you, I would wait for the Motorola Atrix, or the LG Optimus 2x because they BOTH have dual core processors, and they should be coming out shortly. The atrix also has a software which runs a custom OS on your computer when plugged in (webtop) I am pretty sure it also has hdmi out, and also has entertainment center (or something) which turns your tv into something that can play videos, pictures, etc from your phone.

I would wait for a little while if I were you.

By the way, there are many custom roms for milestone. Look at my thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=932196

Note: The bootloader is not unlocked, some features are still not available. (Such as swap memory I think)

Also, there is a gingerbread rom for milestone (released today) in beta but I haven't updated the thread yet.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] vishalmullur:
where did you come to know that milestone is getting 2.3. i would love that of course but is the rumor true?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] bombello123:
go for milestone is great:)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] carthikv12:
Vishal, you can find it on the development forum for milestone - i'm running Gingerbread on my milestone overclocked to 1Ghz... Battery life has taken a hit so I might have to tweak the vsels a bit better.

But Milestone Vs Nexus one is not a fair comparison... the nexus has 512mb of RAM... this just offsets every advantage the milestone can gain - except for the slightly better GPU maybe. but whats the point? none of the new OSes run properly without the RAM!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] deygun:
at least u can already get the AOSP version of gingerbread...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] samus777:
wouldnt that be nice?

is motorola actually going to provide this?

maybe in 2 years time we will get 2.3 :D and thats probably pushing it too ...