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[General Questions and Answers] ryude:
Can you name 1 game, no strike that, 1 APP that doesn't run flawlessly on the Nexus S already? Honestly, having a more powerful processor is not the answer, the software is what needs work and it has been that way for over a year.

Software has been lacking while hardware keeps improving, which is why we're still stuck in 2006 when it comes to game development.
[General Questions and Answers] ll_l_x_l_ll:
people said the same thing when Nexus 1 was out then Galaxy S was released. they all run the same things. it just it runs better on Galaxy S.

and i assume the same thing will happen for future games for example.

its not just the aps. the thing has HDMI out to play video and games on ur TV. it plays videos at 1080P. it RECORD videos at 1080 and a better GPU . its just all rounder a better specs phone. and its less than 1 month away.
[General Questions and Answers] ryude:
I'm just waiting for a phone that has a 4.3" screen that is smaller than the size of the Nexus S. Phones have way too much useless glass/plastic around the screen that serve no purpose. Performance I could care less, they all work fine for me. Hell, I thought the HTC Aria was pretty snappy when I had it.
[General Questions and Answers] dinan:
Can you provide a link that proves it has a SAMOLED screen?
[General Questions and Answers] HD2MAX:
+1

if have also the SAmoled, I'll buy it without hesitation when it comes out, if not samsung has a sgs2 with t2 etc. soon...

if 2x Optimus had a screen of 4.3 or 4.5 samold, and would be perfect grrr
[General Questions and Answers] unremarked:
@ll_l_x_l_ll

Forgive me for being offtopic for a moment, but I must ask, why are you here on these forums? Most of the posts I see from you are "LOL NEXUS S SUX!!!1!!11!" so I have to ask. Are you trying to convince people that they made a bad purchase and whatever phone you're currently using is better? Not trying to start a flamewar, merely curious about your intentions.

As far as your question regarding LG Optimus 2X, my answer is no. It runs what looks like a TouchWiz derivative and I detest TouchWiz. Its not that I hate all layovers, it's that I hate ugly/cartoony layovers. I don't mind SenseUI at all and actually wish that Google would incorporate some of their widgets into stock Android. And, personally, I don't understand the complaint about the lack of a microsd card on the Nexus S. Is 16gbs not enough? It is for me. Then again, I'm a guy who's had the same computer for the last two years and just barely made it halfway through the 500gb hard drive.

Dual-core processors are definitely the future, but nothing out there right now is optimized to take advantage of it and it will be some time before they do. Would today's apps run better? Probably. Would they run better to justify purchasing another phone? Not for me, yet. Also the 1080p video recording is neat, but I can count on one hand the number of times I've used the camcorder feature. Further, who the heck is gonna play phone games on their TVs? lol I can't imagine trying to play Angry Birds on a 42" screen.

On the topic of the screen, a quick googling of the specs seems to pull up it's just a TFT normal LCD screen like the MT4G, EVO, or Droid series. There was a picture LG sent to Phandroid showing their screen to be better than SAMOLED/Retina, but it was a photoshopped image made to generate buzz.
[General Questions and Answers] slowz3r:
no not going to buy, because there is currently is no real world advantage to have a Dual Core phone. Hell most people dont even have dual core PCs
[General Questions and Answers] King Shady:
The LG interface is so ugly but this phone has awesome specs. However I'll probably just wait until a new Droid comes out in Summer
[General Questions and Answers] sherifone:
GPU performance isn't that much better on the Tegra 2 especially at the 480x800 resolution. The first round of dual core phones while technically impressive, won't provide improved real world results until the OS and Apps are designed to leverage it.

What you'll find is that an update like 3.0 or 3.1 will take advantage of the Tegra 2, and the LG phone will get it 6 months late, or never.

In the meantime, Nexus S owners will get 3.0 in a timely fashion, enjoy proper GPU acceleration and other OS improvements... Tegra 2/LG nerds will be in the forums boasting about their 2500-3000 quadrant scores, while still having laggy scrolling and out of date OS releases.

The key thing here is enjoying your experience, and the Nexus S delivers a great one... It may be my opinion, but I try to be as objective as possible. That said, I'll probably buy one anyways and get bored with it, only to return to the Nexus S... just like I did with the Nexus One and all the other "super phones" inbetween.
[General Questions and Answers] ll_l_x_l_ll:
can you please tell me where did i say nexus S sucks ? usually i compare it with other phones. but i never said its a bad phone. its another version of galaxy S in my eyes. better software, and that phone isnt bad. because i used to own it.

but my brother has an Desire HD. and ITS better than galaxy S.

my current phone is iphone 4. and the only reason i like it is because i play alot of games on it. but the LG phone sounds really tempting. i mean i really like its specs.

also. i am almost around every new release phones. its kinda exciting to know what people likes and dislikes. what early problems each phone has etc.

but i am in no way mentioned the Nexus S is a bad phone at all
[General Questions and Answers] unremarked:
Okay, fair enough. :)

While I disagree on the topic of the Desire HD, I'd like to thank you for answering my question and now we should return to our regular thread topic programming! hehe.
[General Questions and Answers] Kubernetes:
I think it's impossible to say with any honesty. No one knows how this phone will perform, whether it will be the greatest Android device ever or whether it will completely suck. The hardware could be great and it could still perform terribly. Or it could work perfect out of the box and have three days' battery life. Who knows? Everyone is just speculating right now... I don't see how you can plan to drop $600 on a device that no one has used.
[General Questions and Answers] kolyan:
the phone looks good and has great hardware, but we dont know anything about the screen technology. LCD, SAMOLED ? I would really like to see some leaks on Galaxy S2 with dual-core Orion and SAMOLED-2 display. The fact that it might not have 2.3 running out of the box is not really a big deal because 2.2 > 2.3 is a minor update anyway. I would be more worried if it gets 3.0 in the future.....
[General Questions and Answers] mmas0n:
Hardware is slightly better in terms of CPU/GPU, but I don't really care. Hummingbird can do everything I need it to and so far as I can tell, is never my bottleneck. I think the biggest performance gains over the next 6-8 months can come from software and not by throwing more hardware into the device.

Plus, no SAMOLED and no stock Android.
[General Questions and Answers] unremarked:
I'm inclined to say that the LG Optimus 2X will not have SAMOLED on it simply because, as far as I know, there isn't any non-Samsung devices using it.
[General Questions and Answers] kolyan:
maybe they will use Samsungs SAMOLED, maybe invented their own technology like iPhone....LCD or even SLCD will not cut it.
[General Questions and Answers] alexis_p3300:
i wiil stay with nexus s until htc makes a dual core beast
[General Questions and Answers] unremarked:
My criteria is quite high for the dual-core phone I'd consider.

4" SAMOLED screen

Optimized Gingerbread/Honeycomb

"Google Experience"

Stock Android

Fastboot oem unlock

FFC

Prefer 1ghz or higher

512mb or higher

Oh, and:

EDIT: DOH Sorry for the size!
[General Questions and Answers] rashad1:
Why do people make threads about other phones in the NEXUS S section?

Of course were not buying that LG piece of iPhone knockoff crap, we bought the Nexus S for a reason. It's being released in Europe in January, if they keep on schedule, not in the US. So on top of paying out the ass to import it, it might not be compatible with your carrier, and a better phone will be announced that you wished you waited for. Just because this phone comes out doesn't make every phone out now obsolete, they will still work and run perfectly well meeting the needs of the people who own them.
[General Questions and Answers] mmas0n:
The iPhone 4 uses an LED backlit Enhanced IPS panel manufactured by none other than LG. iPhone 4 was the first mobile device to use an IPS panel, but the tech is actually quite old.
[General Questions and Answers] DKYang:
I agree. There is a general section to talk about all types of phones, so why the hell make topics in the Nexus S forum? Serious question or not, if it's not about the Nexus S, it shouldn't be here.

Read the description of the forum people, "Discussion about Google Nexus S (general chat, tips & tricks, Q&A, etc)."
[General Questions and Answers] tommyz2kool:
Whatever. You were trolling in the nexus s blows iphone4 out of the water thread earlier saying that anyone who thought nexus s is better than iphone 4 is dumb. You don't even own the damn phone, why are you comparing it?

This entire thread is about your hate for the nexus s. The vast majority of the people on this board own a nexus s, and have no intention of buying another phone in a month. Its not like we had no idea the LG 2x was coming. This is just a stealth thread to try on crap on the nexus s. Why didnt you post this in the nexus one board? They're the ones who are more likely to buy a new phone.

And as for you previously owning a nexus S... suuuuuuuure. You own an icrap so it makes zero sense for you to own a tmo phone. You're just another one of those stealth trolls.
[General Questions and Answers] kolyan:
Then I guess its good news for this phone :)
[General Questions and Answers] raeef:
I didn't buy the NS because it's the fastest or most advanced phone, I got it because it's clean Android and updates will come faster without any need to modify my phone.
[General Questions and Answers] ll_l_x_l_ll:
i found this between the LG phone and Galaxy S

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_DCKl_mEJc&feature=player_embedded

it was in Engadget.

also. here is a video preview from engadget as well..

http://www.engadget.com/lg-star/preview/

neocore test, quadrant. all running on the LG phone.
[General Questions and Answers] ll_l_x_l_ll:
i own a nexus S ? god damn i was right, you are a moron.

on top of that, you talk as if i am the one who mentioned the nexus S blew the iphone 4. i was only talking about the difference.

you are the only one who keep saying icrap this or icrap that.

you were pissed because i didnt agree with you. unlike you. i know a good phone when i see one.

cant say the same about you.

and yeah. you had no idea when the phone is coming. because it was annouced only today for a Jan release. everyone was expecting a march if we were lucky. so yeah, you didnt know. and you are pissed your nexus s isnt the best in the market. period.

seriously i have seen stupid people. but nothing like you.
[General Questions and Answers] ll_l_x_l_ll:
i just went through what engadger said. its not SAMOLED

thats a draw back for the phone.. for some reason i though its SAMOLED. my bad lol

http://www.engadget.com/lg-star/preview/
[General Questions and Answers] kolyan:
relax guys :)

most people know that NS uses 6 month old hardware and its not really that impressive. Buying google experience phone is about software. If you want to keep NS for a year or two, then NS makes sense to buy because it will get 3.0. For short term NS is no good.

well another reason to buy Nexus S was tzones, but looks like thats getting blocked....
[General Questions and Answers] kolyan:
not a draw back if screen is the same as iPhone.....
[General Questions and Answers] unremarked:
I highly doubt Apple will let that get away from them. I'm willing to bet that there is an exclusivity deal. Beyond that, the pictures/video posted by Engadget didn't seem to be that impressive as far as color saturation and all that goes.

But anywho. Folks, this kind of discussion is kinda pointless, imo. There is always something bigger, better, brighter, faster, etc. coming down the pipeline. If you are always waiting on the "next big thing" or think that the "next big thing" will be perfect in every way possible, you're never going to have anything. Buy the device that has what you want and what works for you. Stop trying to convince others that what they like/want/works for them is wrong because the only person that can make that determination is them.

Two months after the LG Optimus 2X comes out, there will be something better and someone else will start a thread just like this in those forums and it'll be equally pointless. Just my two cents.
[General Questions and Answers] ll_l_x_l_ll:
i have to agree, i think its just a normal lsd screen or slcd screen.
[General Questions and Answers] gogol:
I will *not* buy this phone, nor HTC phone, nor SE, etc.

Even if it has dual core or quad core ...

Because I am tired waiting software update from them.

I owned several HTC devices in the past, and right now HTC Desire.

For me, the most important thing is SOFTWARE ... Current high end hardware is more than enough in terms of processing power.

I don't need additional few fps on graphics, nor HD recording video (they sucks).

My usage pattern:

- 90% web browsing!

- A little bit chatting

- Gaming

So, Google phone is my choice right now (waiting friend to get the Nexus S from UK, damn snow!).

I think for user like me, Nexus S would be a good investment for long term, until another Google phone released :)

Also for the next Android tablet. I will only buy if it will get direct update from Google.
[General Questions and Answers] mmas0n:
My usage patterns are almost a complete mirror of yours, but I feel the same.

I bought my NS for a reason and no amount of hardware will make me want my next phone to be anything other than the next Nexus.
[General Questions and Answers] ll_l_x_l_ll:
lol same here.

i love alot of things in nexus s

looking at the videos for both galaxy s and the LG, i dont see much of difference to make me go awww this is bad. i mean, the difference is not as big as nexus 1 and galaxy S

and i do agree about software updates is periorty, at the end of the day, all developers will be using this phone as defult.

come later next year when android is 3.0 and everyone will be waiting while Nexus S is rocking the update.
[General Questions and Answers] kolyan:
well like someone here said LG makes Retina Display for iPhone......

take a look at this:

http://tech2.in.com/india/news/smar...tina-display-and-super-amoled-killer/180682/0

Better brightness, better power consumption, and just like SAMOLED blacks use O power.....this combined with dual-core which i suppose will also be optimized for battery, we can have a very impressive phone.
[General Questions and Answers] TheBiles:
It's a freaking LG phone. No way in hell.
[General Questions and Answers] dinan:
Yeah I saw this too... and SAMOLED technically does draw SOME power to display blacks since the screen is still on.

Anyway, based on the pictures of the Optimus and articles about it, the blacks seem quite washed out on it, so I think it's just an ordinary LCD.
[General Questions and Answers] unremarked:
Those images are believed to have been faked/photopped by LG to generate buzz.

Source: http://androidandme.com/2010/12/pho...slim-and-super-bright-phone-is-coming-to-ces/
[General Questions and Answers] DJTaurus:
LG is worldwide the third selling phones maunfacter :)...and in 2010 they released their first serious android smartphones...LG Optimus One P500 (in direct cooperation with Google) is the best low budget android (also best selling) in Europe and Optimus 7 one of the best selling with Windows 7 software.The funny thing is that LG announced that the P500 with a 600 MHz CPU will get 2.3 sth that sammy is thinking for its high end Galaxy S...same goes for Desire HD/Z.....
[General Questions and Answers] ryude:
I played with an Optimus T and my impressions were good, came with 2.2 and the device felt solid in the hand no loose buttons, back had soft rubber feel. Overall, I think LG makes a good device. I just hate the thought of never getting updates (like Samsung).
[General Questions and Answers] raqball:
Dual core won't be relevant until Google optimizes the OS for it...

Sent from my Nexus S
[General Questions and Answers] DJTaurus:
3.0 is optimised for tegra tablets...:)
[General Questions and Answers] kolyan:
Ps how do u know what interface in has?
[General Questions and Answers] Luxferro:
Not that I plan to get this LG phone, but to play devils advocate here.... don't you think google will optimize honeycomb for dual core, since the first homecomb tab is supposed to be dual core?
[General Questions and Answers] DJTaurus:
I used Optimus T as my main phone for about a month and compared to the ****y touchwiz/blur or the user friendly sense,LG's interface is the most close to stock android UI.
[General Questions and Answers] kolyan:
Which parts did u find ****ty on Touchwiz? Because I find Touchwiz better then stock
[General Questions and Answers] ryude:
Touchwiz is nice because it adds functionality instead of taking it away, I just don't like how laggy it is. But you can use the GTG Touchwiz launcher it is an optimized version made by the xda community.
[General Questions and Answers] Bmerz:
Not sure if I'll get the LG or not, but I thought this was kind of cool...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jil4CEEryW8
[General Questions and Answers] vetvito:
Want that, not the phone but the HDMI software.
[General Questions and Answers] tommyz2kool:
Oh so I was mistaken in thinking you ever owned a nexus s. You dont plan on buying one, yet you're making a dumb ass thread on the nexus s board asking nexus s owners who's going to buy another phone less than a month from now. Who's the moron again?

no you're the one that cried to the mods because someone made a thread about how nexus s is better than a icrap on a NEXUS S board

That's right. That's my opinion after owning one for a year then switching over to a nexus s. How long have you owned a nexus S? Oh that's right you never have.

I've owned an iphone, then a nexus one, then a nexus s. Are you trying to say the nexus phones arent good?

no idea? Unlike you I'm not clueless, and neither are the other nexus s owners. We all knew that dual cores were going to be here in the spring and they're going to be announced at CES which is in Jan.

We still chose to buy the nexus s, and a good percentage of us paid for it outright, so its not like we couldnt buy another phone. So I dont care if my phone doesnt have the best specs. Its a pure google experience on fast hardware and better than icrap.

You're calling me stupid and you're the one that thinks there are no flaws with iOS notification system. /facepalm

oh btw, how many people said they were going to buy a dual core LG in this dumbass thread?
[General Questions and Answers] ctt0002:
I think that has more to do with the os.
[General Questions and Answers] Menace II Society:
I'm not a fan of LG phones. And the 2X doesn't impress me enough to make me change my mind. A dual core isn't enough to make me take a chance with LG.

I'm glad they are finally stepping up and putting out devices that can contend with the big boys, but until I see these devices actually seem "worth it" and I play with them myself, I won't be risking it with them.
[General Questions and Answers] AllGamer:
i'll only switch if some body else comes out with a dual core with a SAMOLED display

i went from SGS to Nexus S because it was the only other phone which had SAMOLED

Nexus S is a slight step down from SGS
[General Questions and Answers] ll_l_x_l_ll:
the lower one in this pic is the better. less pink more blue white
[General Questions and Answers] HD2MAX:
We can ask a moderator to move this thread to the general section of LG optimus one, I think is the best place for this moment, until you have your own section.

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=837

this for does not annoy users of NS, and everyone happy.

Happy holidays to all :D
[General Questions and Answers] thepoetvd776:
Rumor has it that 3.0 will come out before March. So these new phones announced with dual core will be able to use them to their advantage.
[General Questions and Answers] kolyan:
Galaxy s2 should be arriving in time to compete with lg
[General Questions and Answers] gogol:
You should pray LG will upgrade this phone to 3.0 :D
[General Questions and Answers] AllGamer:
true that!

Samsung also has a horrible bad track record at updating their OS, most Galaxy S were still stuck on 2.1 until just 2 weeks ago, imagine that :rolleyes:

and LG is no better either in regards to OS upgrade for their handsets.

Motorola is mildly decent

obviously having Google themselves being the main driver of Nexus S, we'll have problem getting the greatest and latest of the OS :D
[General Questions and Answers] harveydent:
If at all...
[General Questions and Answers] kolyan:
People keep talking about updates, but its only 1 update (3.0) the rest are fixes for bugs. With Nexus One, Google did NOT solve my problems with updates, xda devs did. Same with my Vibrant, Samsung did NOT solve my problems (officially), but leaks and xda devs did.

So in theory, if LG releases bug-free OS, there is no need to worry about ANY updates other then 3.0. Honeycomb is about 3-4 month away (according to rumors), so by the time LG and Galaxy S2 arrive in USA, they might as well be the first devices to run 3.0
[General Questions and Answers] koottan:
Will go for Nexus S

I will surely go for Nexus S (Even though its not available in my country till now.). I'm sure that the applications which are going to be released in an year or two will run smoothly in Nexus S. Added with the advantage of being able to use the latest updates...
[General Questions and Answers] DJ Palmis:
Hi!

I'll buy ASAP!

I can pre-order on Expansys.. But maybe if I wait a little bit it will be a little bit cheaper!

Anyway: I wonder if there will be an XDA forum about this GREAT PDA!
[General Questions and Answers] sublimaze:
please elaborate
[General Questions and Answers] tggfest:
i have lg o1 and galaxy nexus and dont suggest anyone to buy lg. late updates, bad customer services etc.
[General Questions and Answers] RudiRulez:
My last LG was plagued with problems, maybe theyve up'd their game since then but it put me off them for life.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] canecho20:
i need a full walk through with this if any one can please help!!!!!!!!!!

and take the time to help me thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] H3ALY:
If you are running the latest 3.14 STOCK rom it's quite easy just download one of the Android Roms you wish to use from the android section extract the content and place them on you SD card (root or in an Android folder) then run the two .exe files.

If you are not running latest Stock Rom and radio please advise and we can talk though it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samizad:
I'd also be happy to take you through it. As I am not a developer, I also found it difficult but I managed it. IM or Email me.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bgjoker:
Please advise better roms, radio , manila, also I'd like to dual boot Android

Did not updated for a long time

If links provided will be much appreciated.

I've installed one of the first editions of android for HD2, but faced lots of problems and waited improvements, now I face lots of custom builds.

I'm not gaming a lot 1-2 times per week, mainly used as PDA, for e-mail, GPS navigation, etc.

OS ver. 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)

Manila 2.5.19211619.0

ROM ver. 1.66.405.2 (76641) WWE

Radio ver. 2.06.51.07
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skunz35:
I would appreciate this as well, would love to see my old hd2 running android :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marct77:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=881958

This has already been done for you at the above link